[12:00] <[FiDO] > k cool thanks
[12:00] <rata> [FiDO] , make it 300mb :D
[12:00] <spiekey> does anyone here know if there is a ubuntu release with xen?
[12:00] <dell500> does an yone know where the apache2 gallery stuff is?
[12:00] <MachineScrew> any body knows what is happening to the repos http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3211
[12:00] <[FiDO] > i basically use my old computer as a music server
[12:00] <[FiDO] > using ampache
[12:00] <tirzah> don't use mp3's... use ogg's instead... :)
[12:00] <lsuactiafner> [v2hja]  : free -mt     ubuntu doesnt use much ram though
[12:00] <[FiDO] > pretty sweet little app
[12:00] <[FiDO] > ampache.org
[12:00] <[FiDO] > lets me stream my music from anywhere
[12:00] <lsuactiafner> [v2hja]  : i've had my system running on 100 mb about even though i have 1G
[12:01] <gusto5> erUSUL, thanks. that's the command i didnt know :)
[12:01] <[v2hja] > well
[12:01] <[v2hja] > ut2004 wonts alot
[12:01] <lsuactiafner> [v2hja]  : basically had 900mb free
[12:01] <erUSUL> gusto5: ;)
[12:01] <BooZee> hey guys, I could really use your help in my LCD problam.. for some reason, ubuntu sets the refresh rate to 75hz, but I want it on 60 Hz. So I go and change, and set it to be as default. BUT! When I logout or shut down or reboot my comp, it get's back to 75 Hz all over again. What can/should I do to prevent this, and to keep the 60 HZ setting ?
[12:01] <dtamas> nalioth: Yes, but you are also right: after installing w32codecs, it is highly recommended to remove the repo!
[12:01] <Karhuton> will-c, did you know that mp3 wasn't a "free" format prior to using Ubuntu?
[12:01] <nalioth> dtamas: see you /pm please
[12:01] <[v2hja] > lsuactiafner,  free -mt says total is about 855megs
[12:01] <samue1> i used a program to listen to streaming audio in hooray but dont remember the name, icon was a green triangle, anyone know the name?
[12:02] <lsuactiafner> [v2hja]  : how much should it be?
[12:02] <[v2hja] > 1024
[12:02] <MachineScrew> BooZee, didn't I tell you the refresh rate only mattered on CRTs
[12:02] <lsuactiafner> with my 1024 i get Mem:          1000
[12:02] <[v2hja] > still
[12:02] <ethy> What's the GNOME's version of the command "konsole"? Like I type a command in the terminal it'll lunch a new GNOME's terminal.
[12:02] <will-c> Karhuton: how come totem used to include the codec then?
[12:02] <[v2hja] > you get 150megs more
[12:02] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  yes, but still there's a diffrence! the 75 HZ mode, is real blurry, and the 60HZ mode, is not!
[12:02] <lsuactiafner> yeh...
[12:02] <apokryphos> ethy: gnome-terminal
[12:02] <Xappe> hello, I have a problem with skype locking the sound device after making a call...it worked fine in hoary if I disabled esd
[12:03] <Karhuton> will-c, the problem isn't totem
[12:03] <lsuactiafner> very strange, no idea..
[12:03] <Karhuton> will-c, it's ubuntu policies
[12:03] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  I'm using analog connection, not digital
[12:03] <ethy> apokryphos: Thanks.
[12:03] <Karhuton> will-c, _no_ program in ubuntu supports mp3 "out-of-the-box"
[12:03] <will-c> Karhuton: yeah i wasnt blaming totem :)
[12:03] <lsuactiafner> might need to try a different kernel, or specify if you have weird hardware.
[12:03] <sproingie> BooZee: you need to hit the "auto-adjust" button on your lcd when you change rates.  best to keep it at 60 though
[12:03] <[v2hja] > its something about kernel has high ram support lsuactiafner
[12:03] <lsuactiafner> or make sure you have the right chips (:
[12:03] <Karhuton> will-c, Again, did you know mp3 wasn't a free format?
[12:03] <dabaR> karhuton xmms in universe does.
[12:03] <Jubei> hi all
[12:03] <lsuactiafner> high ram support is if you have 4G
[12:03] <MachineScrew> BooZee, LCDs have a fixed resulotion and refresh rate
[12:03] <gusto5> MachineScrew, can you check if your sources.list isnt errorous?
[12:04] <dabaR> xine, and other programs porlly too.
[12:04] <chaps0063> has anyone worked with a Fujitsu Lifebook T4010 and Breezy yet?
[12:04] <will-c> Karhuton: well i knew something about that... but didnt really know what it meant in practise
[12:04] <gusto5> amonkey, how is it now?
[12:04] <MachineScrew> gusto5, it has worked before
[12:04] <gusto5> oh.
[12:04] <MachineScrew> gusto5, it was working yesterday
[12:04] <gusto5> that's really odd.
[12:04] <MachineScrew> gusto5, yes very
[12:04] <Karhuton> will-c, would you know it even now, if ubuntu didn't have the restriction?
[12:04] <Jubei> I have installed the font for firefox, but now all dropdownlist font is white
[12:04] <[v2hja] > hm
[12:05] <[v2hja] > how to run a LAN ftp server on hoary
[12:05] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  well, all I know that when ubuntu sets it to 75Hz, it's really blurry and a bit disturbing to the eyes, and when it's on 60 Hz it's A.O.k.
[12:05] <[v2hja] > about 50 clients and 80gigs on hdd
[12:05] <Bachus9000> I'm having difficulty with my WG511 wireless card (it's made in Taiwan, so it uses the prism54 drivers).  I can't get it to connect to my router no matter what security settings I use.
[12:05] <[v2hja] >  big files (700mb)
[12:05] <erUSUL> [v2hja] : install one of the aviable in Synaptic
[12:05] <Karhuton> BooZee, 60Hz isn't good for you :) It'll make your eyes bleed
[12:06] <[v2hja] > erUSUL,  ...... errr me a n00b .........
[12:06] <will-c> Karhuton: well yeh i knew mp3 was not open source
[12:06] <MachineScrew> BooZee run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:06] <hawking> !tell hawking about codecs
[12:06] <erUSUL> [v2hja] : pure-ftpd seems to be popular around
[12:06] <will-c> Karhuton: i thought the patent was gonna run out pretty soon
[12:06] <will-c> or had already
[12:06] <[v2hja] > is it with a GUI ?
[12:06] <chaps0063> has anyone gotten breezy working on a tablet and have the tablet functionality?
[12:06] <lsuactiafner> [v2hja]  : proftpd
[12:06] <MachineScrew> BooZee, the will allow you to set the monitor to what you want
[12:06] <will-c> Karhuton: or am i mixing it up with jpeg, crap
[12:06] <lsuactiafner> [v2hja]  : you dont need a gui, proftpd rocks
[12:06] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  but it ask me for to choose the driver I want to use, and I have no idea what I should choose there...
[12:06] <Karhuton> will-c, maybe this small restriction in ubuntu will help people become aware of these licensing issues
[12:06] <[v2hja] > gui is nice to watch :D
[12:07] <erUSUL> [v2hja] : it has gui but it does not work (at least here)
[12:07] <MachineScrew> BooZee, what video card do you have
[12:07] <lsuactiafner> [v2hja]  : check all the nice servers out there, all of them use proftpd
[12:07] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  nvidia geforce mx 440
[12:07] <ethan-allison> hey guys i still can't get my PNGs to work
[12:07] <MachineScrew> BooZee, find nv
[12:07] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner: kernel.org uses vsftpd... ;D
[12:07] <MachineScrew> for the driver
[12:07] <pasky_> hi all
[12:07] <[v2hja] > wil 2800mhz and a gig of ram cut it with 50 clients and big files ?
[12:08] <ethan-allison> [v2hja] : sounds like it man
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> erUSUL : yeh also thought of that
[12:08] <MachineScrew> BooZee, or nvidia
[12:08] <will-c> Karhuton: yeh i guess. i just found something on slashdot about it. i had missed the change in license i guess
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> erUSUL : but most of the proftpd servers are rock solid and its easy to setup
[12:08] <will-c> Karhuton: well ogg is better anyhow...
[12:08] <[v2hja] > so
[12:09] <[v2hja] > how do i install proftpd
[12:09] <[v2hja] > apt-get ........
[12:09] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  how do I know my bus identifier?
[12:09] <Karhuton> v2hja, 2,8Ghz and 1gig is way more than enough for ftp server
[12:09] <MachineScrew> will-c, when the come out with cdplayers that play ogg i will go to it
[12:09] <gusto5> MachineScrew, well just to let you know the main repos are up for me
[12:09] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner: i have instaled pure-ftpd only to now how to configure it and help a friend of mine. i do not use it myself ;)
[12:09] <MachineScrew> gusto5, ok
[12:09] <axisys> I can never get to this site
[12:09] <erUSUL> know*
[12:09] <axisys> I can never get to this site
[12:09] <MachineScrew> BooZee, just sikp it
[12:09] <Hhhhh> H2O, yea, but after being turned into an Internet insult, it took on a different meaning
[12:09] <will-c> MachineScrew: i think there is
[12:09] <axisys> http://www1.mplayerhq.hu
[12:10] <Hhhhh> or a different connotation instead
[12:10] <nalioth> axisys: it's down atm
[12:10] <dabaR> [v2hja] : do you use synaptic ever?
[12:10] <axisys> is there a mirror site
[12:10] <nalioth> axisys: what do you need from there?
[12:10] <MachineScrew> will-c, in japan
[12:10] <axisys> nalioth: the multimedia cide
[12:10] <axisys> the multimedia code rather
[12:10] <mustard5> nalioth, is this a clue as to my reseting problem? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3209
[12:10] <mjr> MachineScrew, http://wiki.xiph.org/VorbisHardware
[12:11] <mwe> [v2hja] : well, here it shows up with apt-cache search proftpd, so I guess I'd apt-get install proftpd to install it ...
[12:11] <MachineScrew> BooZee, when you get to monitor let me know what is says for it
[12:11] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  amount of memory??
[12:11] <MachineScrew> BooZee, sikp it
[12:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell axisys about w32deb
[12:11] <dabaR> Karhuton: what connection do you make between bandwidth and cpu and RAM?
[12:11] <MachineScrew> BooZee, just hit enter
[12:11] <dtamas> axisys: try archive.org
[12:11] <MEEEs> does any body know how to chage gnome-btdownload default time out?
[12:11] <jxpx> i got a problem with the amule , i want to download something and in the transfers say waiting all the time :S:S:S:S:
[12:12] <axisys> !w32deb
[12:12] <ubotu> I heard w32deb is download a ready to use w32codecs deb at http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (hoary) or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (breezy)
[12:12] <nalioth> mustard5: yer pastebin has lost me
[12:12] <dabaR> [v2hja] : wanna talk at all?
[12:12] <mustard5> k
[12:12] <MEEEs> I want it no not time out at all if possable
[12:12] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  "Use kernel framebuffer device interface?" ?
[12:12] <gusto5> ubotu, you can sudo apt-get install win32codecs
[12:12] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, gusto5
[12:12] <jxpx> i got a problem with the amule , i want to download something and in the transfers say waiting all the time :S:S:S:S:
[12:12] <gusto5> huh?
[12:12] <MachineScrew> BooZee, no
[12:12] <Karhuton> dabaR, none
[12:12] <nalioth> axisys: you dont get /pm  ?
[12:12] <Jubei> anyone got problem with font-color after installing easyUbuntu?
[12:12] <thoreauputic> gusto5: ubotu is a bot :)
[12:12] <zerboxx> how do I install something that has a .sh extension?
[12:12] <gusto5> OH :P
[12:12] <gusto5> thanks thoreauputic
[12:12] <dabaR> So why then that that config will be fine for a server?
[12:12] <thoreauputic> ;P
[12:12] <gusto5> lol.
[12:12] <Jubei> sh <file-nam,e>
[12:13] <axisys> nalioth: what is /pm?
[12:13] <dabaR> Karhuton: ^
[12:13] <gusto5> thats twice you seem to have answers to impossible questions, thoreauputic
[12:13] <ompaul> !buotu
[12:13] <ubotu> ompaul: I haven't a clue
[12:13] <Karhuton> dabar, but with a 1gbit connection there might be cpu requirements.
[12:13] <ompaul> !ubotu
[12:13] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:13] <dtamas> axisys: private message :P
[12:13] <jxpx> !tell ban jxpx
[12:13] <axisys> nalioth: no I did not
[12:13] <nalioth> axisys: ubotu sent you a Private Message
[12:13] <Karhuton> dabar, though the hard drive will propably be the limiting factor
[12:13] <Jubei> zerboxx sh <filename>
[12:14] <axisys> nalioth: I did not get it
[12:14] <dabaR> Karhuton: upload speed is the crucial thing for servers.
[12:14] <nalioth> gusto5: we love impossible questions here
[12:14] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  X.Org server module????
[12:14] <axisys> I am using irssi on OpenBSD
[12:14] <Karhuton> dabar, in which case the ftp process won't require too much cpu
[12:14] <nalioth> axisys: is your irssi way modded or standard?
[12:14] <MachineScrew> BooZee, the default is fine
[12:14] <axisys> irssi 0.8.9 (20031210 2316)
[12:14] <dabaR> Karhuton: servers are the least demanding processses you have on your computer.
[12:15] <will-c> Karhuton: it says no fees need to be payed for mp3 unless you have revenue over 100,000 dollars
[12:15] <will-c> surely then open source projects are ok?
[12:15] <gusto5> lol
[12:15] <nalioth> axisys: on the blue line at the bottom, you should see a red number or two. hit alt-<number you see>
[12:15] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  attempt monitor autodetect?
[12:15] <gusto5> does anyone know how big the ubuntu repos are?
[12:15] <Jubei> anyone got problem with font-color after installing easyUbuntu?\
[12:15] <MachineScrew> BooZee, no
[12:16] <gusto5> Jubei, the easyubuntu from the ubuntuforums?
[12:16] <Jubei> yes
[12:16] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  it writes "SyncMaster"
[12:16] <Karhuton> gusto5, around 210mm by 291mm
[12:16] <james_> I just installed the newest ubuntu version and need to get my wireless lan going but everything I have read about ndiswrapper says to turn the radio state from 1 to 0 does anyone know how to do that?
[12:16] <MachineScrew> BooZee, is that what it is
[12:16] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  well, I have Samsung SyncMaster 730B, so yes
[12:16] <axisys> nalioth: got it :-)
[12:16] <calamari> hi
[12:16] <axisys> new in irssi :P
[12:17] <gusto5> Jubei, what kind of colour problems?
[12:17] <MachineScrew> BooZee, ok then leave it
[12:17] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  but that was in the xorg.conf file before
[12:17] <nalioth> axisys: once you get used to it, you'll never go back to gui
[12:17] <gusto5> Karhuton, 210mm?
[12:17] <gusto5> lol :P
[12:17] <MachineScrew> there should be an area to where you can specify the resoultion
[12:17] <Jubei> all white
[12:17] <MachineScrew> one sec
[12:18] <axisys> nalioth: I use naim a lot for AIM.. so I know u r talkign about
[12:18] <seife> How do i get my USB headphones working?
[12:18] <Jubei> dropdownlist and button are all white (button itself AND font)
[12:18] <calamari> I'm trying to use k3b to back up some data.. It says the backup size is 697mb, but then it says it's too big for my CD (which is 700MB), so I told it to write an ISO, and it's over 800mb.. Any idea why the preview is wrong?
[12:18] <gusto5> anyone know of any colour problems with easyubuntu?
[12:18] <axisys> nalioth: I use screen to one system that never goes down so CLI works best for me
[12:18] <[FiDO] > rata: I'm still getting the same problem
[12:18] <gusto5> does anyone know how big the repos are in terms og bytes? :P
[12:19] <[FiDO] > man this is frustrating me
[12:19] <dtamas> how can i burn movie in dvd format?
[12:19] <axisys> nalioth: now if I could have a cli version of jabber I am set
[12:19] <QMario> Hello Thoreauputic, Seveas, nalioth, and ompaul!!! I haven't seen you guys in a while. :)
[12:19] <[FiDO] > I can't get the base system of breezy to install
[12:19] <MachineScrew> Just hit enter
[12:19] <QMario> Greetings MachineScrew!!! :)
[12:20] <lampshade> [FiDO] :  is the basic install crashing?  Might be a badly burned cd
[12:20] <MachineScrew> BooZee, then it will ask more stuff
[12:20] <thoreauputic> QMario: RealLife (tm) keeps getting in the way - apt-get remove --purge real-life  ;-)
[12:20] <Karhuton> gusto5, you're interested in offering a mirror?
[12:20] <MachineScrew> QMario, hey
[12:20] <nalioth> axisys: bitlbee
[12:20] <benkong2> I have a java problem I installed the sun-jdk according to the wiki-docs when I run update-alternatives --config java the jdk is there but a java -version always returns the jre. What am I doing wrong?
[12:20] <nalioth> QMario: howdy
[12:20] <ompaul> QMario, hi there
[12:20] <Aven> hi
[12:20] <gusto5> Karhuton, no. a friend wants to know out of curiosity, may plan to switch back to ubuntu from who knows what
[12:20] <Aven> I installed cpanel
[12:21] <nalioth> benkong2: thought jre was sun's java?
[12:21] <Aven> however, how do I get to the URL?
[12:21] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  o.k. i finally got to the refresh rate section!
[12:21] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  I chose the one I want
[12:21] <MachineScrew> yay
[12:21] <QMario> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_04-b05)
[12:21] <tristanmike> QMario, hello
[12:21] <selinium> hello qmario
[12:21] <benkong2> nalioth; there is also a jdk java developers kik the
[12:21] <axisys> nalioth: bitlbee is in synaptic?
[12:21] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know how to make my windows drives show each time I load up...
[12:21] <benkong2> QMario; that's what I get
[12:21] <nalioth> axisys: yes it is, enable all your repos
[12:21] <QMario> You are fine.
[12:21] <Lord_Maynoth> I mount them and they work, but when I reboot I have to do it all over again
[12:21] <MachineScrew> ya the res and the refreshrate
[12:21] <Lord_Maynoth> its annoying
[12:21] <BooZee> MachineScrew:  reloading the X (ctrl+alt+backspace ??) will do?
[12:21] <QMario> Benkong2, I can run programs with that and compile them. :)
[12:22] <MachineScrew> ya
[12:22] <BooZee> but ?I need to close everything before?
[12:22] <ISOcrates> can anyone paste their sources.list file for me that works good using mirrors?
[12:22] <ISOcrates> i keep getting errors with mine
[12:22] <axisys> nalioth: got it
[12:22] <jxpx> !tell me
[12:22] <Lord_Maynoth> dabar, thanks I did that... but I have to run that script each time
[12:22] <Lord_Maynoth> I boot
[12:22] <nalioth> ISOcrates: the servers are under a heavy load
[12:22] <jxpx> !tell me
[12:22] <jxpx> !tell me
[12:22] <dabaR> No, you do not.
[12:22] <jxpx> !tell me
[12:22] <jxpx> !tell me
[12:22] <QMario> ISOcrates, is the server still too slow?
[12:22] <jxpx> !tell me
[12:22] <benkong2> QMario; good my problem is I am trying to install Laslo tomcat server and it always says tomcat depends on the jdk and stops the install
[12:22] <ISOcrates> i guess so
[12:22] <dabaR> !kick him?
[12:22] <Lord_Maynoth> well my drives wont load
[12:22] <axisys> !w32deb
[12:22] <ubotu> dabaR: Syntax error in line 1
[12:22] <ubotu> I heard w32deb is download a ready to use w32codecs deb at http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (hoary) or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (breezy)
[12:22] <gusto5> ISOcrates,
[12:23] <jxpx> sorry
[12:23] <Lord_Maynoth> until I run the script
[12:23] <ISOcrates> gusto5: yo
[12:23] <thoreauputic> jxpx: you're on thin ice
[12:23] <MachineScrew> BooZee, brb
[12:23] <Lord_Maynoth> they work fine each session
[12:23] <nalioth> ISOcrates: the errors are commonplace now and probably will be until a few days pass
[12:23] <jxpx> sorry
[12:23] <benkong2> I set JAVA_HOME to the bin/ dir of the JDK and everything but it still fails
[12:23] <Lord_Maynoth> but if I reboot I have to do the script again
[12:23] <gusto5> ISOcrates, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[12:23] <jxpx> was my brother
[12:23] <jxpx> a kind
[12:23] <solidgroove> stupid ubuntu downloads stop at 33mb and say complete
[12:23] <gusto5> ISOcrates, there is a sufficient sources.list there
[12:23] <ISOcrates> gusto5: rock, thanks
[12:23] <ISOcrates> i love this chan :)
[12:24] <benkong2> brb gotta reboot
[12:24] <QMario> Benkong2, really and truly, I don't know what to do for you.
[12:24] <QMario> I am sorry. :'(
[12:24] <Bachus9000> I'm getting an "Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out" error when trying to connect to my router via wpa_supplicant
[12:24] <ajmitch_> morning
[12:24] <jxpx> timido chupamela
[12:25] <selinium> Is it possible to burn straight to cd from stdout?
[12:25] <TiMiDo> !OPS
[12:25] <ubotu> methinks ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[12:25] <rocifier> hey, how can I mount a vfat drive in fstab so I have full rwx permissions for all users
[12:25] <apokryphos> TiMiDo: hm?
[12:25] <QMario> Anyway, thank God that Breezy doesn't freeze anymore.
[12:25] <QMario> I take back what I said yesterday, I was just impatient and frustrated. :)
[12:25] <TiMiDo> he said to sucked it
[12:25] <thoreauputic> TiMiDo: ?
[12:25] <thoreauputic> ah
[12:25] <QMario> Windows XP < Ubuntu Breezy
[12:25] <gusto5> ISOcrates, got it?
[12:25] <gusto5> lol QMario
[12:25] <nalioth> TiMiDo: may we help you?
[12:25] <jxpx> jajaj
[12:25] <thoreauputic> jxpx: last warning
[12:25] <jxpx> timido de donde eres
[12:25] <gusto5> no need to tell us common knowledge :P
[12:26] <axisys> nalioth: bitlbee gives me this ERROR :Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to /var/lib/bitlbee/
[12:26] <TiMiDo> nalioth; he told me to suck his you know what nalioth  =)
[12:26] <TiMiDo> jxpx;
[12:26] <jxpx> lol
[12:26] <seife> How do i get my USB headphones working?
[12:26] <dabaR> qmario, thats more like public static final TRUTH = win<ubu;
[12:26] <axisys> should I change the permission?
[12:26] <jxpx> que pasa timido :D
[12:26] <gusto5> *gasp* an operator!
[12:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jxpx about conduct
[12:26] <TiMiDo> seife; sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart;
[12:26] <pipoun> Hey, one of you knows a good UML modeler? I only know umbrello
[12:26] <nalioth> TiMiDo: touch it
[12:26] <axisys> or can I point to a different folder
[12:26] <seife> TiMiDo, what does that do
[12:26] <TiMiDo> seife; restart hotplug
[12:26] <seife> wth is hotplug
[12:26] <solidgroove> can you upgrade hoary with the breezy cd?
[12:27] <TiMiDo> seife; hotplug is usb stuff
[12:27] <dabaR> solidgroove: likely, why not use the network?
[12:27] <tirzah> silly ?, is there a way to turn off in x-chat all these "has joined" and "has departed" messages?  Don't really need/want to see those... thanks
[12:27] <seife> TiMiDo, sudo: /etc/int.d/hotplug: command not found
[12:27] <gusto5> awwww
[12:27] <mwe> seife: init.d
[12:27] <gusto5> there goes the op :P
[12:27] <solidgroove> dabaR, its slow right now, and I want to setup hoary as good as possible and upgrade when I get the cd
[12:27] <nalioth> TiMiDo: apologies, i hate damned autocompletion
[12:27] <TiMiDo> seife;  init.d/
[12:27] <TiMiDo> ok
[12:28] <nalioth> axisys: for your missing file/folder, "touch" bitlbee into existence
[12:28] <nalioth> axisys: and then try it again
[12:28] <zdennis> hey all, i've got 1.5Gb of memory in my system. Originally it didn't recognize all of my memory so I updated the kernel. After recent updates using the 'Show Updates' screen, it is back to having the problem of not recognizing all of my memory. Does anyone know what kernel I need to support my amount of memory?
[12:28] <dabaR> solidgroove: well, I am not sure what you should do. Read about apt-cdrom to learn how to add a CD as a repo to your sources.list, and then you can comment out all the others when upgrading, and that should work, afaik.
[12:28] <gusto5> Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] 
[12:28] <Niggpie> Hello :) I am new to Ubuntu 5.10 and I'm trying to figure out how to install the wpa_supplicant. I have downloaded the source and I'm just trying to understand these instructions: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_install_wpa_supplicant I don't know 'where' to compile the code, or where to put it? (is there an alternative program files directory or...?) I appreciate any help!
[12:28] <gusto5> does that mean my graphics card has 64 megs of ram?
[12:29] <gusto5> or 32?
[12:29] <zdennis> oh wait
[12:29] <zdennis> ignore me
[12:29] <zdennis> lol
[12:29] <zdennis> i was ssh'd into another box
[12:29] <gusto5> lol.
[12:29] <pipoun> Niggpie: launch a console and go to the apropriate directory
[12:29] <zdennis> so how's everyone doing today?
[12:29] <dabaR> Niggpie: there is a wpasupplicant package.
[12:30] <gusto5> not bad zdennis. yourself?
[12:30] <dabaR> !compiling
[12:30] <dabaR> !+compiling
[12:30] <ubotu> Compiling software when you have no idea what you're doing is _not_ a good idea. You will probably end up breaking your system and you can safely assume nobody here will want to help you after that. If there is a precompiled version, just use THAT instead. Really.
[12:30] <Niggpie> pipoun : I can't find out to launch a console.. I could do it in 5.04, but it seems to have dissapeared?
[12:30] <zdennis> it's going better now that I realized that my system is recognizing all of my memory =)
[12:30] <BooZee> damn it!!
[12:30] <Niggpie> dabaR : I can't d/l the package since I don't have a wired connection to use.. and wireless won't work w/out wpa :(
[12:30] <seife> TiMiDo, I still just have sound on speakers, not on headphones :/
[12:30] <dabaR> Niggpie: that is installed(the console with right click on the desktop) with the nautilus-open-terminal package.
[12:31] <LaserLine> does gnome-clipboard-deamon work with breezy ?? I installed it but it seems not to be working...
[12:31] <LoneWolf071> how do i use cgi with apache2?
[12:31] <BooZee> i did ctrl+alt+backspace, and I got stuck in this console!
[12:31] <seife> TiMiDo, help me please
[12:31] <BooZee> had to reset!!
[12:31] <Baldev> o.O
[12:31] <dabaR> Niggpie: well, what, how did you get the other source, how are you here? you can get the package through your web browser...
[12:31] <Baldev> :<
[12:31] <gusto5> lol
[12:31] <LoneWolf071> BooZee:just type startx or gnome-session and it will bring up the GUi again
[12:31] <Jubei> anyone got problem with font-color after installing easyUbuntu?
[12:31] <Jubei> dropdownlist and button are all white (button itself AND font)
[12:32] <ajmitch_> thoreauputic: crowd troubles? :)
[12:32] <LoneWolf071> how do i use cgi with apache2?
[12:32] <LoneWolf071> or which is better apache or apache2?
[12:32] <thoreauputic> ajmitch_: nah, just read the riot act ;)
[12:32] <gusto5> hehehe :P
[12:32] <Baldev> :P
[12:32] <nalioth> axisys: did you get sorted with 'touch'  ?
[12:32] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone know how to rename windows paritions from 0 GB Disk to something else?
[12:32] <Baldev> woot. I'm pretty sure it's installing 5.10.
[12:32] <Baldev> What are the changes?
[12:33] <Baldev> I hope they're somewhat substantial... If I downloaded like 500-600 MB of data :p
[12:33] <Niggpie> dabaR : so I cannot open a console unless I d/l the nautilus-open-terminal package? I'm on Windows 2000 right now.. wireless works on Windows but not Ubuntu right now since WPA is not installed. I thought I had to apt-get to get the package? I downloaded the wpa_supplicant.tar.bz2 and tossed it on a floppy.. however I just don't understand where to put it still. Where are programs installed to on Ubuntu?
[12:33] <gusto5> Baldev, they probably are.
[12:33] <erisco> yo
[12:33] <HrdwrBob> Niggpie: you can
[12:33] <LoneWolf071> which is better/easier apache or apache2?
[12:33] <erisco> does linux support .rar?
[12:33] <nalioth> Niggpie: you can d/l any pkg you want from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:33] <HrdwrBob> Niggpie: it's just in applications->system tools-> terminals
[12:33] <seife> i restarted hotplug, i still have sound on speakers but not on headphones at all
[12:33] <HrdwrBob> *terminal
[12:33] <nalioth> erisco: yes it does
[12:33] <axisys> nalioth: naah
[12:34] <HrdwrBob> erisco: yes, get the package 'rar-nonfree'
[12:34] <LaserLine> Is there a clipboard deamon for Breezy ?
[12:34] <axisys> permission denied
[12:34] <HrdwrBob> or 'unrar-nonfree' I can't remember
[12:34] <axisys> it is owned by Bitlbee user
[12:34] <Niggpie> hwdrbob : thx!
[12:34] <BooZee> how can I run ssh server ?
[12:34] <crimsun> BooZee: install openssh-server
[12:34] <nalioth> HrdwrBob: we could only with for rar-nonfree, heh
[12:34] <HrdwrBob> BooZee: simply install the package 'ssh'
[12:34] <nalioth> BooZee: install "openssh-server"
[12:34] <thoreauputic> BooZee: install openssh-server
[12:34] <HrdwrBob> nalioth: ssh is shorter and easier :)
[12:34] <mwe> LoneWolf071: I prefer apache2. some people might say apache1 is more stable, but personally I don't believe so anymore
[12:34] <seife> bah ")(!/$"! ubuntu, i have to reformat again. *SIGH*! !!
[12:35] <HrdwrBob> metapackage for ssh client and ssh server
[12:35] <nalioth> gusto5-aWay: please turn the script off
[12:35] <gusto5-aWay> sorry
[12:35] <BooZee> and how do I run it?
[12:35] <gusto5-aWay> i thought i had turned the darn script off...
[12:35] <dracflamloc> guys if i have an amd64 running ubuntu 32bit, should i do: apt-get install linux-686
[12:35] <nalioth> BooZee: once you install it, it will run whenever your box is running
[12:35] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know how to change your windows paritions names
[12:35] <seife> nobody helps me here
[12:36] <Baldev> dracflamloc,
[12:36] <Lord_Maynoth> I tried sudo nautilus
[12:36] <Lord_Maynoth> it wont let me
[12:36] <Baldev> I'm pretty sure you need to install based on your OS
[12:36] <pipoun> dracflamloc: I think it's for pentium IV
[12:36] <Niggpie> nalioth : alright, I downloaded the package. Can I put it onto a DOS floppy and have synaptec package manager browse to it for installation?
[12:36] <axisys> is there a way I can filter all the messages from a user or to a user
[12:36] <axisys> i am using irssi
[12:36] <zdennis> wow, i just realized i have 8gb of unused space
[12:36] <nalioth> Niggpie: you can use dpkg to install it
[12:36] <zdennis> that is not partitioned... i think i will setup a swap partition
[12:36] <axisys> this channel is too busy for me to catch all conversations :-)
[12:36] <nalioth> axisys: /help hilight
[12:37] <nalioth> axisys: or just /help
[12:37] <Niggpie> nalioth : thank you, i'll look into dpkg :)
[12:37] <uFo-Z> hi all. little dirty question. when i want to use the new gnome 2.12.1 and all newer versions of packages included in ubuntu 5.10. do i have to download the hole 5.10 version ? i currently use 5.04 and i wonder that apt-get/synaptic will not update to ubuntu 5.10 automaticly
[12:37] <Niggpie> thanks everyone for the help!
[12:37] <erisco> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: ************** Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[12:37] <erisco> what in the world is that?
[12:37] <erisco> i blocked out my signature... not sure if it is good to give out
[12:37] <axisys> nalioth: thnx
[12:37] <nalioth> erisco: disregard, its due to the server load, i believe. it will sort itself
[12:38] <thoreauputic> erisco: quite a few people are seeing that (including me)
[12:38] <erisco> hmmm
[12:38] <CherryOS> i have a problem with breezy, i have a radeon x600 card and right after i login in it freezes, i changed the xorg.conf ati to radeon, but i'm stuck, anyone know how to unfreeze it?
[12:38] <thoreauputic> erisco: no dramas
[12:39] <erisco> alright well i will wait till it sorts itself out
[12:39] <bluefox83> friend of mine is running ubuntu hoary, having problems changing his sources.list correctly
[12:39] <erisco> does anyone know the terminal command to start up visual boy advance?
[12:39] <thechitowncubs> Is the NTP server down?
[12:39] <son_5> sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
[12:39] <son_5> sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[12:39] <pipoun> CherryOS: install the fglrx driver, en follow the wiki roadmap
[12:39] <zdennis> Is there anyways to initialize a new swap partition without having to reboot?
[12:39] <son_5> hey, y'all
[12:39] <thoreauputic> erisco: as long as you are using official repos you know where your stuff is coming from so you can trust it anyway
[12:39] <zdennis> my system does not currently have swap
[12:40] <CherryOS> k pipoun
[12:40] <bluefox83> does anyone have a list of decent hoary sources.list entries?
[12:40] <bluefox83> you know..ones that actually work..
[12:40] <snausages> bluefox83 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:40] <thoreauputic> !sources
[12:40] <ubotu> I heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:40] <pipoun> RIP for hoary
[12:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bluefox83 about sources
[12:40] <bluefox83> breezyupgrade?
[12:40] <thechitowncubs> My computer will not load the gnome-panel fully and it will not sync with ntp.ubuntulinux.org
[12:40] <uFo-Z> can i simply change horay to breezy if i want upgrade from ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 ??
[12:40] <thechitowncubs> Anyone know whats going on?
[12:41] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know how to edit the names of your windows paritions
[12:41] <uFo-Z> in the sourcelist ?
[12:41] <snausages> bluefox83 my mistake, i assumed your friend wanted to upgrade
[12:41] <nalioth> bluefox83: the ubuntuverse is under strain atm, due to breezy release, it'll sort itself
[12:41] <_jay> um, any reason why my linux box can only be found on the network by ip but not by name?
[12:41] <krage> where is the xorg.conf file placed?
[12:41] <shad0w1e> um, any reason why my linux box can only be found on the network by ip but not by name?
[12:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell uFo-Z about upgrade2breezy
[12:41] <snausages> krage /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:41] <pipoun> shad0w1e: you need a dns server
[12:41] <nalioth> shad0w1e: please watch your enter key
[12:41] <thoreauputic> shad0w1e: edit your /etc/hosts file
[12:41] <Aven> hello, when I type 'apt-get install opera' I get:
[12:41] <uFo-Z> thanks nalioth
[12:41] <shad0w1e> pipoun: this box is teh dns server
[12:41] <axisys> w32codec bittorent is sooo slow
[12:41] <Aven> ebex: Package opera has no installation candidate
[12:41] <nalioth> shad0w1e: yes, edit your hosts file and give it a name
[12:42] <krage> thx
[12:42] <Aven> what's the command to install opera?
[12:42] <shad0w1e> nalioth it has one in there!
[12:42] <axisys> it's been 9 mins and still 0%
[12:42] <nalioth> Aven: take yourself to opera.com and get it
[12:42] <cfh_dev> Can I disable/turn off the bluetooth stuff in breezy?
[12:42] <Aven> nalioth: okies...
[12:42] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know how to edit the names of your windows paritions?
[12:42] <erisco> is upgrading to breezy a good idea? is there no problem staying with hoary? how hard is it to get breezy?
[12:42] <mwe> axisys: mine is at 4% after 27 mins
[12:42] <thechitowncubs> Anyone care to assist me :)???
[12:42] <cfh_dev> erisco: I've found breezy to be more stable
[12:42] <Aven> ok
[12:42] <erisco> whoa, what is this huge package people are trying to get?
[12:42] <nalioth> erisco: the reasons to upgrade are all yours
[12:43] <bluefox83> can someone sort out this sources.list entry for me? deb http://ftp.ale.org/pub/mirrors/ubuntu/ hoary hoary-backports hoary-security hoary-updates
[12:43] <shad0w1e> upgrade upgrade upgrade!
[12:43] <erisco> 4% after 27min?
[12:43] <Aven> I get control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz and debian-binary
[12:43] <nalioth> erisco: it's called "breezy badger" and it's the newest version of ubuntu linux
[12:43] <shad0w1e> dont you want to be running the latest possible at all times!???
[12:43] <Aven> can someone point me to a doc that shows how to install packages?
[12:43] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know how to edit the names of your windows paritions?
[12:43] <shad0w1e> (im just joking)
[12:43] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: if you ask a question. you know how the channel works
[12:43] <cfh_dev> Aven: sudo apt-get install <packageName>
[12:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Aven about synaptic
[12:43] <thechitowncubs> i did ask a question
[12:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Aven about apt-get
[12:43] <thechitowncubs> :)
[12:43] <ubuntu> you can change windows partitions names in vista
[12:43] <mwe> erisco: yes it's just a slow bittorrent
[12:43] <bluefox83> why the heck does ubuntu have everyone using sudo instead of just switching to root?
[12:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Aven about dpkg
[12:44] <tristanmike> !tell bluefox83 about root
[12:44] <nalioth> Aven: there ya go, all you need to know
[12:44] <shad0w1e> ok I cant get my box to be recognized by name!
[12:44] <thechitowncubs> My gnome-panel will not load completely and I think it is because it is not syncing with ntp.ubuntulinux.org
[12:44] <crimsun> bluefox83: it's a sane default. It's your system; you're free to configure a root password and use su.
[12:44] <Determinist> !tell me about weed
[12:44] <shad0w1e> only by ip!
[12:44] <Determinist> the bot lies...
[12:44] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know how to edit the names of your windows paritions in ubntu instead of them reading 0 GB Disk (sbd2) etc???
[12:44] <thechitowncubs> NVM
[12:44] <Determinist> he knows what weed is
[12:44] <bluefox83> sounds kind of assinine to me
[12:44] <thechitowncubs> it just spawned a bunch of errors about the network manager, clock applet, etc
[12:45] <thechitowncubs> i think it all happened because it couldn't sync
[12:45] <Determinist> Lord_Maynoth, edit /etc/fstab
[12:45] <thoreauputic> bluefox83: this debate is getting old - read the url abut it
[12:45] <feugan3333> !tell me about life,the universe and everything
[12:45] <nalioth> Lord_Maynoth: open a terminal and type "man fstab" and apply a label
[12:45] <Determinist> Lord_Maynoth, and the directory names at /media ... and maybe the symlinks
[12:46] <bluefox83> deb http://ftp.ale.org/pub/mirrors/ubuntu/ hoary hoary-backports hoary-security hoary-updates  <--what is wrong with that line?
[12:46] <bluefox83> why can't my freind seem to get that to work/
[12:46] <Determinist> bluefox83, erm... ftp, i'd say
[12:46] <bluefox83> Determinist, what about ftp?
[12:46] <bluefox83> apt is built to use both http and ftp
[12:47] <Determinist> bluefox83, my bad then
[12:47] <nalioth> bluefox83: have you visited that URL with your browser to see if it exists with those paths?
[12:47] <mwe> bluefox83: http://ftp. just sounds wrong to me
[12:47] <bluefox83> nalioth, yes
[12:47] <Determinist> bluefox83, looks fine to me... but check if the actual place exists
[12:47] <BoneE> is there a repo for all vidz codecs yet
[12:47] <theD3viL> How to set up iso-8895-2 in XMMS MENU ?
[12:47] <Polis> bluefox83 it works
[12:47] <nalioth> mwe: lots of places do that , show a ftp tree in http
[12:47] <bluefox83> Polis, then why isn't it working for my freind?
[12:48] <Determinist> bluefox83, your friend has other issues maybe. have him drop by.
[12:48] <bluefox83> Determinist, trying to get him in here
[12:48] <Determinist> bluefox83, well, alrighty then
[12:48] <cfh_dev> Is there a way to disable/turnoff bluetooth?
[12:48] <BoneE> bum
[12:49] <Determinist> cfh_dev, bum or kill the mod
[12:49] <Lord_Maynoth> so what do i do in man fstab?
[12:49] <BoneE> cfh_dev: install bum
[12:49] <alpha232> ARGH! ok 2 hours and I finally have MPlayer... that hangs dead when loading an mpeg GACK...
[12:49] <MachineScrew> BooZee, you ther
[12:49] <Determinist> Lord_Maynoth, do you understand what fstab does?
[12:49] <BooZee> 
[12:49] <cfh_dev> Determinist, BoneE: I'll check that out, thanks
[12:49] <BooZee> oops.
[12:49] <BoneE> aplha i have the same problem
[12:49] <BooZee> yep
[12:49] <Lord_Maynoth> no clue
[12:49] <Lord_Maynoth> I hate the CLI
[12:49] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[12:49] <MachineScrew> ok cool
[12:49] <alpha232> BoneE, glad to know i'm not alone, better to know there is a fix
[12:50] <Determinist> Lord_Maynoth, do you understand how harddrives are represented in the linux file system?
[12:50] <Lord_Maynoth> no clue
[12:50] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[12:50] <Lord_Maynoth> sry
[12:50] <BoneE> i got all the codecs but it wont work
[12:50] <Aven> bleh
[12:50] <Aven> ubotu: tell Aven dpkg
[12:50] <Determinist> Lord_Maynoth, you need more help than we can provide. go do some reading... man fstab.
[12:50] <erisco> someone said it earlier... but where do i go to upgrade to breezy? (and one noob question... too much windows... will upgrading my system erase all my files?)
[12:50] <BoneE> i had no problem with 5.04 now that i installed 5.10 everything is messed up
[12:50] <Aven> bleh, what's the command again?
[12:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell erisco about upgrade2breezy
[12:51] <Aven> ubotu: dpkg
[12:51] <BooZee> say, if I reset the comp (hit the reset button) and didn't did an organized logout and reboot, what can happen to the comp or HD or whatever?
[12:51] <bluefox83> erisco, upgrading your system will only remove the old packages, you wont lose anything else
[12:51] <nalioth> Aven: you've got bot mail
[12:51] <Lord_Maynoth> you can get gaim as an autopackage... but I think breezy has the latest
[12:51] <alpha232> BoneE, 5.04 hmmm i wonder how i can roll back to that version
[12:51] <Aven> hehe
[12:51] <BoneE> alpha232: but the repo is not there anymore for the files i need
[12:51] <alpha232> bone: gack
[12:52] <bluefox83> i have noticed that ubuntu does not handle .deb files from the debian archives very well, whats the deal with that?
[12:52] <qwerrttyy> I have windows on hdb3 while I boot from hda and the MBR on hdb wasn't changed by me since it was the HDD that was being booted from. but now that I made hda -> hdb and installed a new HDD as hda I can't boot into XP: root            (hd1,2)
[12:52] <qwerrttyy> savedefault
[12:52] <qwerrttyy> makeactive
[12:52] <qwerrttyy> map             (hd0) (hd1)
[12:52] <qwerrttyy> map             (hd1) (hd0)
[12:52] <qwerrttyy> chainloader     +1
[12:52] <qwerrttyy>  what could be the problem?
[12:52] <erisco> if i upgrade to breezy, can i switch back to hoary if things don't work?
[12:52] <holverat> hello, my wirelles does not work, any help me?
[12:52] <thoreauputic> erisco: not without much expertise and pain
[12:53] <bluefox83> qwerrttyy, windows is a POS and requires you to have it on hda1 unless you chainload your bootloader
[12:53] <erisco> ugh... forget it then -.-
[12:53] <erisco> haory is working fine for me...
[12:53] <BoneE> to me too but i upgraded and now i am mad
[12:53] <thoreauputic> erisco: well, it's supported for at least another year
[12:53] <seife> Ok, i have a problem i change the sound dispositives from Speakers to Headphones and i still have sound on speakers... the changer is not working properly so HELP me please.
[12:54] <qwerrttyy> bluefox83, at the moment, only chainloading is feasible for me. how can I do that?
[12:54] <erisco> supported for one more year? you mean eventually they stop supporting them?
[12:54] <Determinist> qwerrttyy, what bluefox83 said. trust me, you're going to want to keep windows on hda1, otherwise it'll bitch, moan, misbehave, corrupt the mbr and do some other naughty stuff.
[12:54] <Niggpie> Hello! When I go to computer and double-click the floppy drive (with a DOS formatted disk inserted), I get the message "given UDI not mountable volume". How can I access this floppy in Ubuntu? thanks!
[12:54] <qwerrttyy> Determinist, mmm, okay
[12:54] <bluefox83> qwerrttyy, you'll need to get ahold of some helpful guides online for whatever bootloader you use (i assume you are using grub)
[12:54] <thoreauputic> erisco: of course - otherwise the support load would just grow forever
[12:54] <seife> Ok, i have a problem i change the sound dispositives from Speakers to Headphones and i still have sound on speakers... the changer is not working properly so HELP me please.
[12:54] <nalioth> qwerrttyy: please do not paste like that again
[12:54] <erisco> yeah but...
[12:55] <erisco> -.-
[12:55] <qwerrttyy> nalioth, yeah, sorry, will used paste thing
[12:55] <erisco> meh, i will worry about this when a eyar has past
[12:55] <erisco> year*
[12:55] <thoreauputic> erisco: it will still work :) But by then you will have updated surely ?
[12:55] <alpha232> here is a strange question, why is it when i go to uninstall say XYZ Application, why does it also say its going to remove some important major componant?
[12:55] <erisco> yeah i will update later when i get more used to this... ubuntu thing
[12:56] <qwerrttyy> ah, okay new question how can I move my partition from one place to another? (GOOEY)
[12:56] <cfh_dev> What happens if I update to a universe repos?  Is that like 'testing' on Debian?
[12:56] <thoreauputic> alpha232: such as?
[12:56] <erisco> i miss windows and it's games... er... let me reword that... i miss window games.
[12:56] <alpha232> thoreauputic, gimme a sec and i'll get a specific example
[12:56] <erisco> i wish linux had more support for gaming
[12:57] <erisco> wine isn't exactly perfect... and it hardly supports any large amount of anything
[12:57] <Determinist> alpha232, dependencies. if you're reffering to metapackages you can remove them. do show us the name of the packages it wants to remove tho before removing.
[12:57] <hypnox> erisco: you got that backwards, its games that dont have support for linux :)
[12:57] <Determinist> hypnox, the problem goes deeper than that lol
[12:58] <thoreauputic> !tell erisco about cedega
[12:58] <Determinist> cedega sucks
[12:58] <Determinist> :P
[12:58] <LaserLine> Is there a clipboard monitor/deamon for BREEzY ?
[12:58] <holverat> my wirelles does not work any help me?
[12:58] <BoneE> alpha232: what verison are u running
[12:58] <Determinist> LaserLine, that only exists in KDE, i'd say. the gnome one isnt visible to play with... as far as i know
[12:58] <holverat> 5.10
[12:58] <streetbmx> holverat: system>administration>networking
[12:59] <thoreauputic> Determinist: I wouldn't know about cedega - not a gamer :P
[12:59] <Determinist> holverat, define doesnt work
[12:59] <seife> Ok, i have a problem i change the sound dispositives from Speakers to Headphones and i still have sound on speakers... the changer is not working properly so HELP me please.
[12:59] <erisco> purchase? you have to purchase something? ugh... =p
[12:59] <Determinist> thoreauputic, wish i had time to be a gamer lol
[12:59] <LaserLine> Determinist I insalled he gnome-clipboard-deamon, that I used with hoary, but it seems not to work, i mean that when you copy and then close the app, the data disappears.
[12:59] <Vanish> Any willing to help a noob? or direct me on where I can get help?
[01:00] <thoreauputic> !ask
[01:00] <wmk0207> hello....
[01:00] <thoreauputic> !tell Vanish about ask
[01:00] <Determinist> LaserLine, can you find the daemon running?
[01:00] <BoneE> i'm goin back to 5.04
[01:00] <BoneE> lol
[01:00] <seife> Ok, i have a problem i change the sound dispositives from Speakers to Headphones and i still have sound on speakers... the changer is not working properly so HELP me please.
[01:00] <lsuactiafner> how do i make a scrip that will read for every file in directory do command? mp3 files with spaces in em so i need as input file names in a reasonable format
[01:00] <Determinist> LaserLine, ps ax | grep clipboard
[01:00] <LaserLine> determinist yes.
[01:01] <lsuactiafner> since i want to try mplayer -ao pcm to dump audio
[01:01] <thoreauputic> Vanish: just ask your question - if anyone can help they will
[01:01] <alpha232> thoreauputic, Determinist  hmmm an apt-get update may have resolved that
[01:01] <LaserLine> determinist it's runing, i can see it in top.
[01:01] <Vanish> I just installed Ubuntu (5.04 Hoary) and I'd like to transfer My mp3 files over from my Windows XP drive
[01:01] <alpha232> now i just need to figure out how to get java installed
[01:01] <Determinist> LaserLine, hmm, afaik breezy comes with the clipboard daemon running nicely and it does work.
[01:01] <frank23> Vanish: breezy just came out, why don't you install that one
[01:01] <streetbmx> why did you just install hoary
[01:01] <Determinist> alpha232, good for you mate
[01:01] <Vanish> I got this CD from a friend
[01:01] <apokryphos> !tell Vanish about windowsdrives
[01:02] <LaserLine> breezy doesn't have a clipboeard demon - I just installed it today from the cd on a clean system.
[01:02] <Determinist> LaserLine, weird... copy paste seems to work here
[01:02] <erisco> *grumble*
[01:02] <LaserLine> the clipboard deamon i was using with hoary is running but not doing the job
[01:02] <LaserLine> determinist, I mean when you copy, let's say from firefox, and then close it before pasting. then you won't be able to paste.
[01:03] <cfh_dev> Vanish: Is the xp drive formatted at ntfs?
[01:03] <seife> CAN ANYONE HELP ME PLEASE.
[01:03] <Vanish> Before I grab Breezy which one should I get? Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[01:03] <frank23> LaserLine: which one did you install?
[01:03] <cfh_dev> Vanish: do you like KDE or Gnome?
[01:03] <apokryphos> seife: drop the caps
[01:03] <LaserLine> determinist current situation in gnome, is that you have to have the app from which you copied from so you will be able to paste.
[01:03] <frank23> Vanish: I suggest kubuntu, but that's just me
[01:03] <shizzito> hey how do you get the flashplayer plugin working in breezy
[01:03] <apokryphos> shizzito: install flashplayer-mozilla -- just like hoary
[01:03] <shizzito> hm
[01:04] <thoreauputic> seife: you won't endear yourself by yelling
[01:04] <shizzito> i think my repos are wrongo
[01:04] <Determinist> LaserLine, i dont think i've ever had such a problem... but then, i've never paid so much attention *shrugs*
[01:04] <seife> ok, i dropped, now help me please cmon.
[01:04] <tristanmike> Vanish, ubuntu comes with both
[01:04] <vbgunz> anyone know how I can get "SDL_net.h." what is this and where is it? I am searching synaptic *but* can't find it. I am writing a tutorial for the wiki *but* need this first...
[01:04] <apokryphos> seife: state your question, and if someone is able/willing to help, they will. "Helpme" comments are generally useless, if irritating at times.
[01:04] <frank23> vbgunz: something like sdl-net-dev
[01:04] <holverat> I use notebook acer with wirelles network broadcom BMC4318 , but ubuntu not recognizes thid chipset., sorry my english not good
[01:04] <Vanish> My xp drive is FAT32 i pretty sure & i've only used Gnome desktop
[01:04] <vbgunz> frank23: thank you
[01:04] <seife> ok dont help me
[01:04] <seife> im gonna uninstall ubuntu
[01:04] <seife> bye
[01:04] <apokryphos> adios
[01:05] <shizzito> haha whatta dick
[01:05] <Determinist> lol
[01:05] <LaserLine> frank23 this one: http://members.chello.nl/~h.lai/gnome-clipboard-daemon/index.html
[01:05] <Vanish> how can i switch to KDE to try it out?
[01:05] <apokryphos> shizzito: language, please. CoC :P
[01:05] <frank23> LaserLine: I run kde,
[01:05] <apokryphos> Vanish: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:05] <thoreauputic> "I'm taking my ball and going home!"
[01:05] <erisco> i'm back! for the millionth time... about cedega... it says there is a free CVS version... what in the world does CVS stand for?
[01:05] <cfh_dev> Vanish: kde looks more like windows.  Lots of nice apps there, too, but they'll run on Gnome
[01:05] <Determinist> Vanish, install kubuntu-desktop... me thinks
[01:05] <shizzito> some of the breezy repos it can't find
[01:05] <Vanish> ok i'll type in that cmd
[01:05] <MrC> apokryphos: : How come the wiki says something else about the installation of the flash plugin???
[01:05] <vbgunz> frank23: this "sdl-net-dev" is in an unofficially supported repo correct? Cause right now I only have official repos enabled and it isn't showing...
[01:05] <apokryphos> MrC: what does it say?
[01:06] <ubuntu> hmm can anyone help me get the screen resolution configured?
[01:06] <Maikeru> sorreh, had to restart xchat
[01:06] <Maikeru> again
[01:06] <Determinist> ubuntu, erm, what seems to be the problem?
[01:06] <thoreauputic> !tell ubuntu about fixres
[01:06] <frank23> vbgunz: it's not the reall name, just a guess
[01:06] <ubuntu> I am currently on the live CD< and I want to ad another refresh rate to the options
[01:06] <Determinist> !tell Determinist about fixres
[01:06] <Determinist> :P
[01:06] <chavo> erisco, cvs is a way to store multiple versions of source or documents
[01:06] <vbgunz> frank23: oh ok, man, I'll google
[01:06] <bimberi> vbgunz: it's libsdl-net1.2-dev which is in universe (tip: you can search package contents at http://packages.ubuntu.com)
[01:06] <streetbmx> !tell streetbmx about fixres
[01:06] <Vanish> Looks like I'm downloading Kubuntu desktop now after I input that cmd into terminal
[01:07] <chavo> allows many people to work on them at the same time also
[01:07] <TTilus> seife: have you checked your mixer
[01:07] <LaserLine> well....
[01:07] <TTilus> seife: what knob controls what and wo...
[01:07] <MrC> apokryphos:  It says ' sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree '
[01:07] <Determinist> bbl
[01:07] <LaserLine> guess it doesn't work
[01:07] <Vanish> Once I finish with that will it make it easier to transfer my music files over from my Win XP drives
[01:07] <TTilus> s/wo/so/
[01:07] <chavo> Ithink it stands for concurrent versioning system, but not sure
[01:07] <seife> yes, i have tried tons of time, i tried ALSA, OSS, ESD, etc..
[01:07] <Bobby_chen> i'; new to ubuntu, and i want to know how to make ZSNES work
[01:07] <vbgunz> bimberi: thank you, universe is not an officially supported repo I guess... Is this why I do not see it in Synaptic?
[01:07] <qwerrttyy> when I delete files in root nautilus what happens to them? I can't find a root user trash so do they get deleted automatically?
[01:07] <TTilus> seife: so you _have_ sound?
[01:08] <jackmacokc> ubuntu: not sure if you can do that with the live cd
[01:08] <seife> i have sound on speakers
[01:08] <seife> but not on headphones
[01:08] <seife> _get_ sound
[01:08] <apokryphos> MrC: looks like there's two packs for the same thing
[01:08] <seife> or w/e
[01:08] <TTilus> seife: where do you have your speakers connected
[01:08] <Bobby_chen> i'm new to ubuntu, and i want to know how to run zsnes
[01:08] <TTilus> seife: and respectively the headphones
[01:08] <tristanmike> seife, have you toyed with "alsamixer"?
[01:08] <seife> the headphones are USB
[01:08] <MrC> apokryphos: The latter complains about a missing ruby package
[01:08] <jackmacokc> Bobby_chen: do you have it installed yet?
[01:08] <apokryphos> MrC: same function, that is; I'm sure they're not the same
[01:08] <seife> tristanmike, where? ;/
[01:08] <Bobby_chen> jackmacokc: how do you do that
[01:08] <bimberi> vbgunz: universe is not supported by canonical no, but it is supported by the ubuntu MOTU (masters of the universe)
[01:08] <TTilus> seife: usb?
[01:08] <tristanmike> seife, in a terminal
[01:08] <seife> TTilus, the speakers are connected to the motherboard
[01:09] <seife> TTilus, yes..
[01:09] <seife> tristanmike, wich cmd?
[01:09] <vbgunz> bimberi, ok, I will enable it then...
[01:09] <tristanmike> seife, alsamixer
[01:09] <frank23> Bobby_chen: zsnes (v.1.4) is in universe
[01:09] <erisco> whoa wait a minute... a CVS version of cedega... does this mean i can download cedega for free?
[01:09] <MrC> apokryphos:  Ill try your suggestion. Thank you. You saved me a lot of headaches :D
[01:09] <Bobby_chen> frank23: wtf is that
[01:09] <thoreauputic> seife:  alsamixer  - m to toggle mute/unmute
[01:09] <TTilus> seife: could explain, do have usb sound device popping up when you connect your headphones?
[01:09] <vbgunz> bimberi: may I ask a question... When i enable the universe repo, I will all of a sudden get crazy updates correct?
[01:09] <chavo> erisco, yes but somethings aren't kept in CVS
[01:09] <frank23> erisco: yes well the free part of cedega
[01:09] <thoreauputic> seife: arrow keys to adjust
[01:10] <TTilus> seife: (i did not know that there were USB headphones)
[01:10] <Vanish> Once I finish dl Kubuntu will I be able transfer my music files over from my Win XP drive
[01:10] <frank23> !tell Bobby_chen about repos
[01:10] <apokryphos> vbgunz: no; just crazy amount of more packages
[01:10] <bimberi> vbgunz: no ...
[01:10] <jackmacokc> bobby_chen: check the wiki and the forums
[01:10] <apokryphos> vbgunz: /msg ubotu components   ...to find out the differences.
[01:10] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: universe is fine
[01:10] <pi> has anybody else had a problem with 4 channel sound (SB Live to be precise) having the volume very much biased towards the rear channel
[01:10] <vbgunz> ok, going for it, thank you fellas!
[01:10] <TTilus> seife: "where" as in which jac, what it is labeled?
[01:10] <streetbmx> anyone know about notebook fans not workin with ubuntu, my lappy seems like its getting hotter than normal/fan isnt running
[01:10] <Bobby_chen> wut file do i edit
[01:10] <bimberi> vbgunz: ... was going to type more but the others said it all :)
[01:10] <frank23> !tell me about windowsdrives
[01:11] <seife> TTilus, i dont understand ur question
[01:11] <TTilus> seife: nevermind
[01:11] <jackmacokc> !tell me about repos
[01:11] <Vanish> ! tell me about windowsdrives
[01:11] <ubotu> Vanish: What?
[01:11] <seife> thoreauputic, how do i change "Card", its currently on VIA blah blah
[01:11] <TTilus> seife: if you really have USB headphones it could just be that they are not supported
[01:11] <thoreauputic> Vanish: no space after !
[01:11] <Vanish> !tell me about windowsdrives
[01:11] <Vanish> thxs
[01:11] <carl> I have a question if I log out how do I get loged back in, every time I end up reinstall Ubuntu
[01:11] <apokryphos> Vanish: and you can /msg the bot. So, /msg ubotu factoid
[01:12] <Bobby_chen> what file do i edit to activate universe repo
[01:12] <seife> TTilus, i had sound
[01:12] <TTilus> seife: your soundcard and usb devices are totally different thing
[01:12] <apokryphos> Bobby_chen:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:12] <nightswim> /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:12] <seife> i just modified a file
[01:12] <apokryphos> Bobby_chen: but youc an also do it from synaptic
[01:12] <bimberi> Bobby_chen: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:12] <vbgunz> I just remember when I first installed Ubuntu I enabled everything... then Ubuntu got slow from a whole bunch of updates I guess (about 20Mb average a day)... So I reinstalled Ubuntu and decided to only allow official updates... I only had a few updates since (about 1MB a day, I'd say)...
[01:12] <seife> cuz i was reading a how to put uniform sound on all ubuntu programs..
[01:12] <seife> and that trashed my headphones sound
[01:12] <seife> i had sound before doing that.
[01:12] <apokryphos> mateusza: you're liking it, then? ;-)
[01:12] <TTilus> seife: having sound meand you have your soundcard workin, and all the inputs and outputs connected to it
[01:12] <frank23> carl: what do you mean? did you install it with the install cd?
[01:12] <mateusza> apokryphos, of course :-)
[01:13] <TTilus> seife: but if you have something plugged to usb, the soundcard doesn't know about it
[01:13] <mateusza> ok, bye :-)
[01:13] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: updates don't slow ubuntu down at all - must have been another issue
[01:13] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know how to add skins to xmms on breezy?
[01:13] <bimberi> vbgunz: that depends more on what you install, not what repositories you have enabled (although that does affect the volume when you update repositories)
[01:13] <carl> yes it was the only way I could get it to work
[01:13] <alpha232> OMG how SUCKY CAN IT BE to get Java installed
[01:13] <Lord_Maynoth> I downloaded the skins package but its a nogo
[01:14] <shizzito> hey are all the repos working?
[01:14] <alpha232> quite simply, i agree to the license, just get the F in my computer!
[01:14] <frank23> !tell alpha232 about java
[01:14] <TTilus> seife: I dont know if usb sound devices are supported at all (yet) and if are, what exact devices are...
[01:14] <Ketche> Ah..
[01:14] <Ketche> Anyone have a libc.so.6?
[01:14] <shizzito> this s**ts f**ked up
[01:14] <Ketche> I skewered this Ubuntu machine...
[01:14] <vbgunz> maybe Breezy developer... I reinstalled Breezy stable on first release... It's been good so far... I guess I just needed reassuring. Anyhow, going to enable the repos that come with Ubuntu and hope for the best :)
[01:14] <alpha232> frank: been there, doing that, too many different ways that all have their own pitfalls
[01:14] <NiGhTHiNG> Hey all
[01:14] <Ketche>  /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found
[01:14] <TTilus> seife: do you have miniplug headphones available?
[01:14] <vbgunz> ahhh, im in preferences for repos... I notice I have backport options... don't enable these correct?
[01:14] <Ketche> Eh, I need a default libc.so.6 from the latest Ubuntu..
[01:15] <noodle_> how much kde crap will taint my clean ubuntu install if i want to install amarok?
[01:15] <Ketche> Anyone have it?
[01:15] <TTilus> seife: if you do, plug them to your soundcards spk out
[01:15] <apokryphos> alpha232: why not using the debs?
[01:15] <NiGhTHiNG> Can anyone give me a pointer on how to configure a 2nd sound card on breezy? I've been searching the web for 2 days now and nada..
[01:15] <bimberi> vbgunz: no, only when you really need to
[01:15] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: no need - there aren't any yet anyway
[01:15] <carl> can I set it up where I can turn on the computer and not have to log in
[01:15] <vbgunz> bimberi: thank you! thoreauputic: thank you!
[01:15] <TTilus> seife: still alive?
[01:15] <bimberi> vbgunz: yw :)
[01:15] <frank23> carl: are you using the live cd?
[01:15] <carl> no
[01:16] <Ketche> I need the default libc.so.6.0.0 from Breezy... can someone pass it to me?
[01:16] <carl> installed on hd
[01:16] <frank23> carl: oh, you don't want to have to login
[01:16] <Bobby_chen> !tell me about repos
[01:16] <alpha232> apokryphos, well there doesn't seem to be one listed
[01:16] <thrice`> Bobby_chen, use /msg
[01:16] <carl> yes
[01:16] <apokryphos> alpha232: /msg ubotu javadeb
[01:16] <TTilus> seife: ...about your opening titles..  caps and iwannahavehelpnoworiuninstallmyubuntu wont actually help
[01:16] <Stricklin> Would someone tell me why gFTP is refusing to copy files from my web space over to my hard disk?
[01:16] <frank23> carl: I'm sure there is a way but I don't know how
[01:16] <bimberi> carl: yes you can, you can set gdm to autologin at boot - System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup
[01:16] <Ketche> Yo... I need libc.so.6
[01:16] <apokryphos> Ketche: you can download any stuff from packages.ubuntu.com
[01:17] <Ketche> Well..
[01:17] <Ketche> dpkg no longer works.
[01:17] <carl> if I log out it will not let me back in
[01:17] <TTilus> seife: we arent helpdesk, this is a community, we are like you, newbies and not-so-newbies voluntarily here
[01:17] <frank23> Ketche: what did you uninstall?
[01:17] <Ketche> frank23: Not uninstall, replaced.
[01:17] <NiGhTHiNG> Hmm..
[01:17] <Stricklin> I keep getting errors "550 Can't open public_html/favicon.ico: No such file or directory"
[01:17] <Ketche> I replaced libc.so.6 using a debian package...
[01:17] <frank23> Ketche: what did you replace?
[01:17] <dougsko> Ketche: apt-get install build-essentials
[01:18] <dougsko> i think its in there
[01:18] <thoreauputic> Ketche: why did you do that?
[01:18] <Ketche> dougsko: apt-get: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by apt-get)
[01:18] <NiGhTHiNG> So maybe someone knows how to get alsa to probe for sound cards?
[01:18] <Ketche> It's not why, I need to fix it.
[01:18] <dougsko> oh
[01:18] <Ketche> I just need someone to transfer the .so.
[01:18] <thoreauputic> Ketche: using debian packages is a recipe for problems
[01:18] <apokryphos> Ketche: giannaros.org/libc.so.6
[01:18] <Bobby_chen> thanks for the help
[01:19] <frank23> Ketche: I can do it. (breezy, x86?)
[01:19] <Orby_> is there any advantage of to me running a 686 kernel or just keeping the default 386 kernel ?
[01:19] <wmk0207> hla
[01:19] <Ketche> 64 bit actually.
[01:19] <TTilus> seife: im gonna go sleep, its 2 am here... *zzz*
[01:19] <pospeselr> I've done a server installation of Kubuntu 5.10.  I've apt-get installed x-window-system-core, kdebase, kdm, kmix, nvidia-glx, hplip, foomatic-db-hpijs, foomatic-filters, and foomatic-db-engine
[01:19] <pospeselr> I've added my printer (Photosmart 7660) using the kde printing manager, and I can print to it from kate, but when I try to run HPLIP Toolbox (the HP util that comes with HPLIP) it claims that I don't have a HP Device installed.  It tells me to check out the CUPS web interface (localhost:631) to add the printer, but it is added when I go there.  It also tells me that it is unable  to restart the print server because it is "Unable to find a runni
[01:19] <pospeselr> CUPS server" when I try to restart it using the KDE GUI, but /etc/init.d/cupsys restart claims to restart without error.
[01:19] <Ketche> 64 bit AMD.
[01:19] <TTilus> seife: hope you got help
[01:19] <frank23> Orby_: max RAM with 386 is 900 MBs
[01:19] <alpha232> whoohoo WiMax rox
[01:19] <apokryphos> Ketche: yes, use that
[01:19] <carl> also I have a soundmax sound card and I can't find a driver for it  any body got in info to help me
[01:19] <Orby_> frank23: is that the only differenece ?
[01:20] <Ketche> libc-2.3.2.so
[01:20] <frank23> Orby_: well 686 would be more optimised
[01:20] <apokryphos> pospeselr: flooding like that is a recipe for problems 8)
[01:20] <Ketche> libc.so.6 is a symlink to: libc-2.3.2.so
[01:20] <Ketche> Annd..
[01:20] <Orby_> frank23: so should i go 686 or just stick 386 ?
[01:20] <Ketche> It skewered system.
[01:20] <Ketche> sh: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libc.so.6: file too short
[01:20] <Ketche> ls: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libc.so.6: file too short
[01:20] <frank23> Orby_: I would use 686
[01:20] <Orby_> frank23: thank you :)
[01:20] <lampshade> anyone here yet installed qt4 with Ubuntu?  Where does qmake go or what package is it in?  (qt4 is in universe so not technically supported but thought I would ask)
[01:20] <pospeselr> well what is the proper etiquette then?
[01:21] <NiGhTHiNG> Ketche: And do you still have the libc-2.3.4 file there?
[01:21] <apokryphos> Ketche: libc-2.3.2.so doesn't seem to exist at all; what package do you think it comes from?
[01:21] <frank23> Orby_: you have an intel processor, right?
[01:21] <Ketche> NiGhTHiNG: Yeah, but it's the wrong thing, I believe.
[01:21] <Ketche> apokryphos: I installed... libc.so.6 for breezy
[01:21] <Ketche> Using deb.
[01:21] <NiGhTHiNG> Ketche: Wrong thing? check the modification date on it (ls -l)
[01:21] <Ketche> But, I think I just trashed the system.
[01:21] <Orby_> frank23: yea, its a P3 1ghz
[01:22] <Ketche> NiGhTHiNG: Nothing works anymore because I just replaced the .so like... apok said to.
[01:22] <frank23> Orby_: ok, 686 should work fine
[01:22] <apokryphos> pospeselr: and... kde questions are better in #kubuntu =)
[01:22] <NiGhTHiNG> Ketche: Boot from a live cd
[01:22] <thoreauputic> pospeselr: if you want to paste a lot of text use the pastebin in the /topic
[01:23] <Buddha|> Does anyone know of an Enlightenment 16.8 package for Ubuntu?
[01:23] <Orby_> frank23: would a 686 kernel run on a P1 166mhz with MMX ?
[01:23] <pospeselr> I'm sorry, I'm new to IRC.  Haven't been able to find any info on the forums or google.
[01:23] <frank23> Orby_: no
[01:23] <thoreauputic> Orby_: no
[01:23] <jedediah> Orby_, Why would you want to?
[01:23] <NiGhTHiNG> Ketche: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 13 Oct 13 23:22 /lib/libc.so.6 -> libc-2.3.5.so
[01:23] <Orby_> frank23: so i'd just use the 386 kernel ?
[01:23] <NiGhTHiNG> Ketche: On breezy.
[01:23] <Orby_> jedediah: why would i want to what ?
[01:23] <z|bandito> hi
[01:24] <Drajka> Gah
[01:24] <Random_Sindrom> hy
[01:24] <Drajka> How do I open a terminal now :<
[01:24] <thoreauputic> Orby_: use the deafault 386 kernel - and that box can only handle a server install + maybe icewm or fluxbox
[01:24] <Drajka> I upgraded to 5.10
[01:24] <Orby_> thoreauputic: its handling alot more but thanks anyways ;)
[01:24] <Ketche> NiGhTHiNG, I'll have to copy the libc library files from the live-cd to the hd.
[01:24] <thoreauputic> !openterm
[01:24] <ubotu> To add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package
[01:24] <z|bandito> i got breezy installed and i set my bios to boot from scsi,... it says 'loading boot record from scsi... OK' then 'Missing Operating System'  and won't boot.  :(  help!
[01:25] <NiGhTHiNG> Ketche: Uh, no
[01:25] <Ketche> NiGhTHiNG, then what?
[01:25] <thoreauputic> Orby_: really? Details? (I'm curious)
[01:25] <NiGhTHiNG> Ketche: You have to see if you still have the original libc files around, and if you do, point the libc.so.6 symlink at them
[01:25] <BooZee> how can I make a directory password protected inside linux? I want it to ask for a password each time I access it, just like when running Synaptic etc...
[01:25] <Ketche> NiGhTHiNG: Okay... and if it isn't?
[01:25] <NiGhTHiNG> BooZee: You're entering the world of encrypted filesystems. Not trivial for a newbie.
[01:26] <sector10> boot has slowed down considerably
[01:26] <thoreauputic> Orby_: I have a P200mmx running ubuntu - but with fluxbox or xfce4
[01:26] <Vanish> Thank you all see my mp3 files now from that auto mount! =D
[01:26] <Drajka> Meh.....
[01:26] <BooZee> not encrypted, just that it will ask for the password everytime - just like lots of programs that require the root pass...
[01:26] <Orby_> thoreauputic: well its normal Intel 166mhz + MMX, has 512mb ram, 7200rpm hard drive DMA enabled and have a nice G force 2 mx400 64mb AGPx4, runs the normal GDM display manager, for desktop i switch it between xfce and fluxbox, even though gnome does work, i just dont like it as much as xfce and flux
[01:27] <NiGhTHiNG> Ketche: If it isn't? ghmm, I'm no Debian/Ubuntu master, but I believe you can use dpkg supplied with the livecd to install a .deb to the system you wrecked.
[01:27] <Drajka> Meh....
[01:27] <Drajka> How can I open the terminal?
[01:27] <Drajka> I can't find it anymore
[01:27] <alpha232> anyone know if BING is still being maintaineD?
[01:27] <thoreauputic> Orby_: ah, you have serious memory and video then - that helps :)
[01:27] <frank23> Orby_: what? you have a 166MHz processor with 512 MBs of RAM???
[01:27] <sector10> Drajka: applications acessories
[01:27] <Orby_> frank23: yea :)
[01:27] <Drajka> Oh, rgr. thx
[01:28] <frank23> Orby_: your motherboard was ahead of its time!
[01:28] <SbCl3> what sources can i add to sources.list to install sun's java?
[01:28] <fredforfaen> any body here that knows of a good htnl-yswyg editor?
[01:28] <bimberi> Drajka: you're not alone in getting caught by that one :)
[01:28] <NiGhTHiNG> BooZee: The programs that ask for a root password are not really password protected. They require root priviliges to access them, and when you supply the password you are granted those priviliges (via something called "sudo").
[01:28] <frank23> !tell SbCl3 about javadebs
[01:28] <Drajka> :] 
[01:28] <tiglionabbit> SbCl3: should be in extras
[01:28] <NeverDream> man I had a 2.6 GHz p4 with 256MB until yesterday... now it's 760MB
[01:28] <BooZee> yes! exactly what I want!@
[01:28] <tiglionabbit> !tell tiglionabbit about javadebs
[01:28] <sector10> Drajka: drag it to desktop is what i did
[01:28] <Orby_> frank23: it had a AMD k6-2 500 :P but i broke it... adn the only chip i had spare was the 166... and the board was pretty new..
[01:28] <seife> How do i change Sound Card on alsamixer in Terminal?
[01:29] <NiGhTHiNG> BooZee: If you want a directory to be accessible only by root, either create it by root, or chown it to root and then chmod it to 700 (read+write+execute allowed to owner only)
[01:29] <thoreauputic> fredforfaen: I assume you meant wysiwyg and html :) maybe nvu or mozilla-composer
[01:29] <SbCl3> i don't have support for bt......
[01:29] <SbCl3> that's why i need java :D
[01:29] <cfh_dev> !tell me about javadebs
[01:29] <fredforfaen> thoreauputic sorry and thanx
[01:29] <gearry> so I tried following the simple instructions for upgrading to breezy, and now my system does not boot
[01:29] <Rich43> Im getting this error when running tightvncserver, http://pastebin.com/395935  Anyone know what I can do to fix it?
[01:29] <gearry> all I get is a grub prompt
[01:29] <tiglionabbit> what's with that definition
[01:29] <NiGhTHiNG> BooZee: Note that chowning something to root can be done only by root itself.
[01:29] <tiglionabbit> ubotu javadebs
[01:29] <ubotu> I guess javadebs is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or javadebs is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) (Breezy)
[01:29] <tiglionabbit> tinyurl?
[01:29] <tiglionabbit> can't it give us the real url
[01:29] <tiglionabbit> someone should redefine that
[01:29] <dougsko> BooZee: use gnupg to symmetrically encrypt the dir, then itll just take a password to decrypt
[01:30] <BooZee> but the root is disabled or something, no? I mean, when doing sudo, i'm enterting my password
[01:30] <apokryphos> tiglionabbit: why?
[01:30] <warthawg> how do i get to that root terminal thingie so i can hack xorg.conf?
[01:30] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: helps preotect the innocent :)
[01:30] <NiGhTHiNG> Anyone here played with alsa under Ubuntu?
[01:30] <tiglionabbit> apokryphos: because who knows where tinyurl points
[01:30] <gearry> This is my first upgrade with Ubuntu, and it boinked
[01:30] <Vanish> What Decoders do I need to play mp3's? or plugins? from my mount
[01:30] <apokryphos> tiglionabbit: you don't know the site it points to anyway
[01:30] <jedediah> warthawg "sudo vim /etc/.../xorg.conf"
[01:30] <NiGhTHiNG> warthawg: Just open a regular terminal and type "su -"
[01:30] <tiglionabbit> Vanish: libmad gstreamer-mad
[01:30] <B_166-ER-X> how do i install a .tar.gz file ?
[01:30] <gearry> things are more complex because / is on an lvm partition
[01:30] <warthawg> jedediah  thank you, sir
[01:30] <apokryphos> tiglionabbit: tinurls make things, well, tiny ;-)
[01:30] <NiGhTHiNG> Oh wait, no root password in Ubuntu..
[01:31] <Echelon-H> what's the name of the text-internet-browser?
[01:31] <Kyral> lynx
[01:31] <Kyral> links2
[01:31] <HrdwrBob> type 'sudo -s'
[01:31] <gearry> I am used to recovering when my lilo config boinks, but have little experience with grub, can anyone offer any pointers?
[01:31] <Echelon-H> thanks
[01:31] <tiglionabbit> Echelon-H: lynx links elinks
[01:31] <bimberi> NiGhTHiNG: sudo -s (or -i) :)
[01:31] <Kyral> sudo -i is better. Its like logging in as root ;P
[01:31] <cfh_dev> B_166-ER-X: you don't really install a .tar.gz file but unarchive it
[01:31] <Drajka> Fucking A! Even after updating to a new distro
[01:31] <NiGhTHiNG> bimberi: sudo su - ;)
[01:31] <Kyral> literally
[01:31] <Drajka> I still can't compile
[01:31] <Drajka> Fsking GLIB!!!!!
[01:31] <B_166-ER-X> hm ok
[01:31] <Rich43> Im getting this error when running tightvncserver, http://pastebin.com/395935  Anyone know what I can do to fix it?
[01:31] <cfh_dev> B_166-ER-X: tar zxf whatever.tar.gz
[01:31] <tiglionabbit> Drajka: compile what?
[01:31] <apokryphos> Drajka: language, please
[01:31] <Drajka> Sorry :/
[01:31] <Drajka> Anything, tiglionabbit .
[01:31] <Drajka> Everything complains about glib.
[01:32] <sector10> Drajka: got to synaptic find all the extra stuff
[01:32] <tiglionabbit> Drajka: to compile, you will need build-essential, all required packages with the -dev suffix, and etc
[01:32] <Rich43> "could not open default font 'fixed'"
[01:32] <Rich43> very odd error
[01:32] <Drajka> I already installed build-essential
[01:32] <Drajka> And it didn't fix it
[01:32] <Drajka> I'm going to try to reinstall glib
[01:32] <tiglionabbit> Drajka: get libglib1.2-dev and libglib2.0-dev
[01:32] <Vanish> How do I get libmad gstreamer-mad?
[01:32] <Drajka> ok
[01:32] <seife> How do i change Sound Card on alsamixer in Terminal?
[01:32] <tiglionabbit> Vanish: use synaptic, and search for "mad"
[01:32] <SbCl3> is there any way to get java _not_ from  bittorrent? like, a repository?
[01:32] <tiglionabbit> SbCl3: yes
[01:32] <tiglionabbit> it's in extras
[01:32] <NiGhTHiNG> Vanish: apt-cache search libmad
[01:33] <sector10> !nfs
[01:33] <ubotu> methinks nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> !info sun-j2re1.5
[01:33] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: not any more
[01:33] <Rich43> Noones helping me then *feels ignored*
[01:33] <SbCl3> extras?
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> wait, really, thor?  what happened
[01:33] <LaserLine> Guys, I installed Opera and it worked, but now I get this error: "QSettings::sync: filename is null.empty Segmentation fault" I removed it completely and reinstalled it - but same error... it worked, I restarted my system in windows, came back to Breezy and it stopped working - can anyone help ?
[01:33] <bimberi> !+java
[01:33] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[01:33] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: legal issues
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> =[  that makes me sad
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> sun sucks
[01:33] <seife> How do i change Sound Card on alsamixer in Terminal?
[01:34] <Vanish> Where can I find synaptic?
[01:34] <crimsun> pass a different value to -c, seife
[01:34] <tiglionabbit> system->admin->synaptic
[01:34] <Drajka> k
[01:34] <thoreauputic> !tell seife about repeat
[01:34] <Drajka> now its complaining about gtk
[01:34] <tiglionabbit> Drajka: get a list of all the requirements and install them before trying to compile
[01:34] <Vanish> using it now to search
[01:34] <seife> crimsun, im newb what u mean by that -c thing
[01:34] <thoreauputic> Drajka: you need the -dev libs
[01:34] <tiglionabbit> the website you got the program from should tell you
[01:34] <crimsun> seife: alsamixer -c#
[01:34] <NiGhTHiNG> So, no alsa gurus around, eh?
[01:34] <mattcamp> I noticed that Ubuntu still only includes BitTorrent 3.4.x.  Is there a legal or technical problem with BitTorrent 4 that prevents it from being included?
[01:34] <crimsun> NiGhTHiNG: ask.
[01:34] <crimsun> mattcamp: licensing murkiness.
[01:35] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: 2 sound cards, 1 shows up in lspci, but nothing else.
[01:35] <LaserLine> anyone here, can help ?
[01:35] <qwerrttyy> what's the safest file storage partition format( besides backing up) to use?
[01:35] <crimsun> seife: # corresponds to the # listed in cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:35] <SbCl3> the wiki page on restricted formats doesn't say how do download java just using apt
[01:35] <jedediah> NiGhTHiNG, Is one an on-board soundcard?
[01:35] <crimsun> NiGhTHiNG: tell me more.
[01:35] <apokryphos> SbCl3: yes... /msg ubotu javadeb   (fixed the url)
[01:35] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: That is, both show up in lspci, 1 works perfectly, but the other doesn't at all. How do I probe for it, configure it, or anything?
[01:35] <tiglionabbit> Drajka: one easy way to do it is using apt.  You can sudo apt-get --build-dep a package, to get all of the requirements to build it.  Then you can sudo apt-get --build source the package to compile it automagically.  This way you don't even need to download source yourself
[01:35] <apokryphos> coulda sworn I did it yesterday
[01:36] <crimsun> NiGhTHiNG: need output from lspci -v |grep -i audio
[01:36] <TrekCycling> The Breezy Badger rocks
[01:36] <thirso> !repo
[01:36] <ubotu> thirso: No idea
[01:36] <NiGhTHiNG> jedediah: Yeah. The one that works. Tried disabling it in the BIOS, but still nada.
[01:36] <crimsun> thirso: repos
[01:36] <apokryphos> tiglionabbit: no "--" required 8)
[01:36] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: pastebin in a sec..
[01:36] <sector10> is there some way to speed up boot or see whys so slow
[01:36] <occy> crimsun, howdy, got anything on sharing printers easily?
[01:36] <Drajka> FINALLY
[01:36] <sector10> i guess i can check boot.log
[01:36] <thirso> !repos
[01:36] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[01:36] <occy> firestarter seems cool, but it doesn't run at boot.  Hmmm....
[01:36] <crimsun> occy: I don't, sorry. The wiki and mailing list archives?
[01:36] <cius> has anyone successfully dist-upgraded from hoary to breezy without incident?
[01:36] <Drajka> i just needed all the compiler stuff
[01:36] <occy> !printing
[01:36] <ubotu> methinks printing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[01:37] <thoreauputic> occy: it does - in the backgrond
[01:37] <tiglionabbit> apokryphos: oh, you're right.  build-dep is a normal command.  --build is the long option
[01:37] <apokryphos> cius: zillions
[01:37] <sector10> its was faster a few days ago and now it takes forever
[01:37] <seife> crimsun, i dont understand man, im stupid, sorry.
[01:37] <tiglionabbit> cius: I just did
[01:37] <occy> thoreauputic, I had to start it as a user in order for it to come up.
[01:37] <thoreauputic> occy: firestarter is just the admin front end
[01:37] <crimsun> seife: what precisely are you trying to do?
[01:37] <LaserLine> anyone here uses opera?
[01:37] <cius> I had trouble with it, I just got the breezy image and reinstalled.
[01:37] <apokryphos> LaserLine: sometimes
[01:37] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: Here's the problem: http://pastebin.com/395941
[01:37] <thoreauputic> occy: see /etc/init.d/firestarter - it runs invisibly
[01:37] <Orby_> LaserLine: yes
[01:37] <occy> thoreauputic, :/ any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[01:37] <occy> ok
[01:37] <cius> but of course, I don't wanna have to do that with dapper
[01:37] <thoreauputic> occy: nothing
[01:38] <tiglionabbit> Drajka: before you can compile anything, you will need the -dev libs it requires.  Read the documentation on the thing you're compiling to see which libs those are
[01:38] <seife> crimsun, change my sound device
[01:38] <LaserLine> Orby_ apokryphos:  I installed Opera and it worked, but now I get this error: "QSettings::sync: filename is null.empty Segmentation fault" I removed it completely and reinstalled it - but same error... it worked, I restarted my system in windows, came back to Breezy and it stopped working... don't know why...
[01:38] <Chris_Tucker> can someone PM me a grub menu.lst entry for a windows XP option? mine has disappeared
[01:38] <crimsun> seife: do you mean "change the default sound device"?
[01:38] <thoreauputic> occy: you only need the front end to adjust it or observe
[01:38] <occy> thoreauputic, ahhh,
[01:38] <crimsun> seife: or do you mean "change the sound device so you can adjust the volume"?
[01:38] <darknuala> hey anybody here using gdesklets from breezy?
[01:38] <BooZee> exit
[01:38] <lampshade> What does firestarter do?  Is it worth it?  I usually just mod my iptables, but I don't use any complex rules so should I give firestarter a try?
[01:38] <Vanish> Any know a decoder to handle mp3's from my mount?
[01:38] <Echelon-H> darknuala, i used to use on hoary
[01:39] <occy> thoreauputic, I wonder if it is because the interfaces weren't set as active
[01:39] <occy> heh
[01:39] <seife> yes, i dunno man, i change the device on volume control, the device is on Plantronics Headset but i have no sound at all on headphones and i still have sound on speakers
[01:39] <thoreauputic> occy: had me fooled for a while when I first used it too :)
[01:39] <crimsun> NiGhTHiNG: what's the precise name of the card from the retail packaging?
[01:39] <occy> they are active now, let me reboot and see what happens.
[01:39] <apokryphos> LaserLine: hm, can't test as I'm on amd64 now unfortunately
[01:39] <seife> i think is change the default sound device..
[01:39] <tk401> hey everyone
[01:39] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: sound blaster live
[01:39] <occy> I'll disco for a sec probably :)
[01:39] <noodle_> is anyone else missing azureus?
[01:39] <darknuala> I'm setting up a starter bar from gdesklets, and whenever I go to pick out the icon for whatever app, the choices are greyed out
[01:39] <jxpx> g
[01:39] <occy> ok
[01:39] <thoreauputic> occy: it's just a front end for iptables - it *will* run on boot: you just don't see the GUI
[01:39] <crimsun> seife: you need to be more precise. Are you trying to mute the speakers and listen to the headphone output only, or...?
[01:39] <LaserLine> apokryphos I was using it for 6 hours... and it stopped working right after a reboot...
[01:39] <occy> I'm logged out
[01:39] <occy> sooo...
[01:40] <frank23> noodle: azureus is in hoary-extras
[01:40] <tk401> i'm having a serious problem, I get a black screen when GDM is supposed to load on breezy, any idea what could be wrong?
[01:40] <crimsun> NiGhTHiNG: that's too vague
[01:40] <occy> I shouldn't be able to be typing now.
[01:40] <occy> heh
[01:40] <apokryphos> frank23: not anymore
[01:40] <tiglionabbit> seife: simply changing the device only changes what the volume controls are for.  Right-click on your volume icon, go to "preferences" or "open volume control" and crank things up for that device
[01:40] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: Motherboard got friend, switched to a spare machine (IBM Mpro) and that's when it stopped working
[01:40] <sector10> is anybody getting slow boot ups??
[01:40] <occy> thoreauputic, looks like its working
[01:40] <noodle_> frank23: can i use it even if im using breezy?
[01:40] <crimsun> NiGhTHiNG: there are too many models of the sblive
[01:40] <occy> thoreauputic, *chuckle*
[01:40] <seife> man i think the sound device mixer is fucked, i put Plantronics Headset in there
[01:40] <thoreauputic> occy: yeah, it works fine :)
[01:40] <sector10> mines like 5 minutes
[01:40] <occy> thoreauputic, danke :)
[01:40] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: The driver that worked was emu10k1, if it's any help
[01:40] <apokryphos> frank23: unsatisfied depends since sun-java was taken out of the repo
[01:40] <seife> put volume to the max, and i still DONT have sound on headphones, i still have sound on speakers, so i assume its broken
[01:40] <crimsun> NiGhTHiNG: in a Terminal, lsmod|grep ^snd_emu10k1
[01:40] <Chris_Tucker> how do i list my partitions?
[01:40] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: It's there alright
[01:40] <occy> back in a flash
[01:41] <apokryphos> Chris_Tucker: sudo fdisk -l
[01:41] <tiglionabbit> seife: you may have to turn up volume controls that you can't see.  When you have the preferences dialog open, hilight one of the things in the list and then crank the volume up again on that
[01:41] <zerboxx> I'm attempting to install networkmanager (through CVS) but I get an error (http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/395944) what do I do?
[01:41] <crimsun> seife: cat /proc/asound/cardsa
[01:41] <seife> tiglionabbit, i did that and still have sound on speakers and not on headphones
[01:41] <crimsun> seife: rather, cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:41] <Epix> I cant get wirelles to work with my wg111 by netgear. it wont let me set the ESSID but it gives no error. I have done this before on ubuntu but i dont know how! Help!
[01:41] <warthawg> where can i adjust the default refresh rate for the monitor?
[01:41] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: No such thing: I82801AAICH/ card0/       oss/         seq/
[01:41] <frank23> apokryphos: but I have sun-java from before... what is the way to install azureus for new breezy users
[01:42] <thoreauputic> warthawg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:42] <seife> crimsun, i see the Headset there..
[01:42] <tiglionabbit> warthawg: system -> prefs -> resolution
[01:42] <seife> its number #1
[01:42] <seife> alsa is #0
[01:42] <apokryphos> frank23: still; it couldn't stay in the repo because of that. You'll have to get it from their site
[01:42] <crimsun> NiGhTHiNG: cat /proc/asound/modules
[01:42] <warthawg> thoreauputic  thanks.  tiglionabbit  it won't let me change it there, its stuck at 60
[01:42] <crimsun> seife: I need the output
[01:42] <tiglionabbit> warthawg: or thoreauputic's way if no options are available.  yeah
[01:42] <frank23> apokryphos: you can also get sun java elsewhere
[01:42] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: No such file
[01:42] <apokryphos> frank23: obviously. I know.
[01:42] <[FiDO] > is there any way you can fix a kernel panic error in grub
[01:42] <Chris_Tucker> what is the dpkg command to show the Xorg config wizard?
[01:43] <tidalwav1> Hi, guys, I haven't been in here in a while ;)
[01:43] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: Oh, duh, sorry: 0 snd_intel8x0
[01:43] <noodle_> apokryphos, frank23: so how do i install azureus on breezy? i have blackdown breezy java installed
[01:43] <[FiDO] > cause I can't get a linux prompt
[01:43] <crimsun> NiGhTHiNG: huh...
[01:43] <apokryphos> noodle_: get it from their site, as I said
[01:43] <tiglionabbit> Chris_Tucker: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:43] <Vanish> Need help playing a mp3 from my mount?
[01:43] <seife> crimsun,  read priv for a bit please
[01:43] <Chris_Tucker> thanks tiglionabbit
[01:43] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: It's the onboard one
[01:43] <Vanish> I need some kind of decoder
[01:43] <crimsun> NiGhTHiNG: are you trying to use onboard or a sblive?
[01:43] <tidalwav1> little problem, and I know 3000 other people on the forums have the same one: the NVIDIA driver doesn't work.
[01:43] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: sbline. Disabling the onboard one doesn't help, though
[01:43] <NiGhTHiNG> sblive even
[01:44] <tidalwav1> I have a pretty old card that worked fine with nvidia-glx before Breezy, and now, nothing.
[01:44] <crimsun> seife: so you're trying to use the headphones?
[01:44] <tiglionabbit> nvidia driver doesn't work?  really?  Ima try something 3d then
[01:44] <tk401> can anyone help me with a problem? breezy won't boot into gdm
[01:44] <seife> woow, YES.
[01:44] <tidalwav1> tiglionL try glxgears
[01:44] <crimsun> seife: then just change System> Preferences> Sound> Default sound card
[01:44] <tidalwav1> what exactly happens, tk
[01:44] <xtr> Hi. Does anybody know where make is in ubuntu?
[01:44] <mark_> heya
[01:44] <tidalwav1> xtr: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:44] <crimsun> xtr: it's in main. Install the build-essential package.
[01:44] <Determinist> windows CE programming sucks :/
[01:44] <tiglionabbit> whoa crap, it doesn't work at all
[01:44] <thoreauputic> xtr: install the build-essential package
[01:45] <frank23> noodle_: I'm not exactly sure if my way is the best way. maybe you should get it from azureus site like apokryphos said...
[01:45] <tidalwav1> tiglion: see? ;)
[01:45] <seife> crimsun, i cant change it, its like empty
[01:45] <xtr> Oh I have to install it eh?
[01:45] <[FiDO] > can someone hlep me with this error I just did a fresh install everything worked fine but when I rebooted I got Kernel Panic - not syncing: VF: Unable to mount to root fs on unknow-block(0,0)
[01:45] <Brunellus> hey what's the hotkey that floats gdesklets to the surface temporarily?
[01:45] <Vanish> Any know what decoder I need to play mp3's?
[01:45] <seife> In dark gray color
[01:45] <mark_> i'm a complete ubuntu newbie
[01:45] <tidalwav1> vanish: you probably need libmad
[01:45] <apokryphos> frank23: your way isn't possible :). Azureus is not in hoary-extras
[01:45] <tidalwav1> or something
[01:45] <noodle_> apokryphos, frank23: you wouldn't happen to know when java 1.5 was required for azureus would you? i don't mind getting a previous version but which one
[01:45] <crimsun> Vanish: gstreamer0.8-mad?
[01:45] <carol> hello there! I installed Ubuntu 5.10 here but can't play avi with totem. I tried "How to install Multimedia Codecs?" to install some codecs but it failed. do you guys have some tip about this? thanks! :-)
[01:45] <october> heh
[01:45] <october> w00p
[01:45] <tiglionabbit> tidalwav1: crap, nothing works with 3d anymore.  what's up with that?
[01:45] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: Any ideas?
[01:45] <tidalwav1> tiglion, I have the same question.
[01:45] <apokryphos> noodle_: why not just install sun-java? There are debs.
[01:45] <Determinist> Vanish, libmad and gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:45] <tidalwav1> tiglion: you never noticed before? :P
[01:45] <tk401> tidalwav1: i get a black screen when gdm should give a log in screen. it's completely frozen and doesn't let me restart X or anything
[01:46] <seife> crimsun,
[01:46] <SbCl3> hmm......where is the azureus deb package for breezy?
[01:46] <frank23> apokryphos: azureus is in hoary-extras
[01:46] <selinium> what is the command line to display what kernel I am running?
[01:46] <crimsun> seife: ...empty? What does System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink> Test do ?
[01:46] <tiglionabbit> tidalwav1: I just upgraded
[01:46] <[FiDO] > can someone hlep me with this error I just did a fresh install everything worked fine but when I rebooted I got Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount to root fs on unknow-block(0,0)
[01:46] <noodle_> apokryphos: i don't want to download 1.5 just for azureus lol
[01:46] <gusto5> carol, do you have win32codecs?
[01:46] <tidalwav1> tig: ah.
[01:46] <tiglionabbit> selinium: uname -a
[01:46] <crimsun> NiGhTHiNG: please be patient.
[01:46] <apokryphos> noodle_: dialup?
[01:46] <selinium> tiglionabbit, Cheers!
[01:46] <carol> gusto5, nope, but it refuses to install. :-(
[01:46] <noodle_> apokryphos: lazy :P
[01:46] <tidalwav1> tk401: Weird. Was it working before? And is your name a starwars reference? ;)
[01:46] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: 'k I'll get some coffee :)
[01:46] <gusto5> carol, sudo apt-get install w32codecs doesnt work?
[01:46] <apokryphos> noodle_: lazy to enter in two commands? :/
[01:46] <Determinist> SbCl3, check ubuntuforums.org under the customization cluster... there's a howto for that
[01:46] <apokryphos> gusto5: it's not in any repository
[01:46] <occy> :D
[01:47] <noodle_> apokryphos: yes =\
[01:47] <occy> hehe
[01:47] <tidalwav1> so yeah, anyone know how to get NVIDIA drivers working in Breezy?
[01:47] <Vanish> Where can I get  gstreamer0.8-mad?
[01:47] <occy> thoreauputic, rockin'
[01:47] <tidalwav1> that were previously working in Hoary?
[01:47] <seife> crimsun, there are to things to test, the first one or the second one?
[01:47] <zerboxx> How can I get networkmanager working in Breezy?
[01:47] <apokryphos> noodle_: obviously your other method will take you ten times longer
[01:47] <gusto5> apokryphos, whay do you mean its not in any repo? did you expand your repos
[01:47] <tk401> tidalwav1: yes thank you for noticing! I just did a clean install from cd and the first boot postinstall went fine, but then I rebooted and it doesn't come up
[01:47] <occy> now....... network printing
[01:47] <carol> gusto5, seems that it cannot find it. no, does not work. :-( using the portuguese message: "E: Impossvel achar pacote w32codecs" = impossible to find w32codecs package
[01:47] <frank23> Vanish: in universe
[01:47] <[FiDO] > I've been trying to install breezy all day I'm starting to wonder if the upgrade is even worth it
[01:47] <apokryphos> noodle_: and you'll have to search for it; but whatever floats your boat
[01:47] <frank23> !tell Vanish about sources
[01:47] <Determinist> Vanish, hmmm, i'd say enable universe/multiverse , then do "sudo apt-get update" , then "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad libmad"
[01:47] <Jaivaz> Has anybody gotten The Mana World to work under Breezy?
[01:47] <noodle_> apokryphos: getting 2.2.0.2 as i type
[01:47] <tidalwav1> tk401, did you install anything weird that would have killed X in between those two times?
[01:47] <apokryphos> gusto5: w32codecs was taken out of hoary-extras for legal reasons. You can still get a w32codecs deb, though. /msg ubotu w32codecs
[01:47] <tk401> tidalwav1: the only way it comes up is by going into recovery mode and then # gdm or startx as root
[01:47] <occy> http://occy.net/printing
[01:47] <occy> heh
[01:48] <gusto5> apokryphos, really?
[01:48] <crimsun> occy: if you like theming, you should check out bmpx 0.12RC11
[01:48] <apokryphos> gusto5: yes, long ago
[01:48] <gusto5> apokryphos, mind helping carol then?
[01:48] <Ephe-Linux> Is this guide useful for Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy? It was written at the time of 5.04 http://mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/
[01:48] <carol> apokryphos, how can I do that?
[01:48] <tk401> tidalwav1: no, i just set up the repositories and upgraded like 3-4 packages that it called for and that was it
[01:48] <seife> crimsun, did u read me?
[01:48] <apokryphos> !tell carol about w32codecs
[01:48] <occy> crimsun, yeah?
[01:48] <carol> need to watch some divx hereb :-)
[01:48] <carol> thanks!
[01:48] <crimsun> seife: the sink.
[01:48] <occy> crimsun, where can I get it?
[01:48] <Madpilot> tidalwav1: see the Nvidia wiki page yet?
[01:48] <gusto5> !tell gusto5 about w32codecs
[01:48] <NiGhTHiNG> tidalwav1: Are you using the nvidia binary module?
[01:49] <seife> crimsun, my ubuntu is in spanish, tell me wich the first or the second
[01:49] <crimsun> occy: http://bmpx.berlios.de
[01:49] <seife> i have sound when i test on the first one, but i hear it on speakers
[01:49] <tidalwav1> madpilot: can't say that I have, just a bunch of angry posts on the forums---you mean nvidia-glx?
[01:49] <Madpilot> tidalwav1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:49] <seife> the second one gives me an error
[01:49] <occy> crimsun, since we don't have a printing network thing, think you might add this url as a network printing thing for ubotu?  http://occy.net/printing
[01:49] <crimsun> seife: first
[01:49] <zerboxx> Can someone please check out http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/395944 and give me a hand on what to do??
[01:49] <occy> crimsun, I ain't touching ubotu though.  Seveas has me scared.
[01:49] <seife> crimsun, i get sound but just on speakers
[01:49] <occy> Seveas, ;)
[01:49] <crimsun> occy: slap it onto the bot.
[01:49] <gusto5> thanks for the FYI, apokryphos
[01:49] <frank23> Ephe-Linux: dvdshrink works even better than in hoary
[01:49] <Madpilot> tidalwav1: I'm having some issues with 3d accel w/ my ATI card too, so it's not just NVidia users
[01:49] <tiglionabbit> brb
[01:49] <Ephe-Linux> frank23: awesome
[01:49] <crimsun> ubotu: network printing is http://occy.net/printing
[01:49] <ubotu> okay, crimsun
[01:49] <Jaivaz> So, no one has gotten The Mana World to work?
[01:50] <occy> sweet
[01:50] <apokryphos> carol: once you download it, then just sudo dpkg -i w32codecs*.deb
[01:50] <Jaivaz> Or am I the only one with this libssl.0.9.8 problem?
[01:50] <occy> crimsun, it'd be nice to get that onto the wikie
[01:50] <carol> thanks apokryphos !
[01:50] <occy> errr
[01:50] <occy> wiki
[01:50] <occy> crimsun, I'll try and do that
[01:50] <crimsun> occy: then log in and put it on the wiki :-)
[01:50] <occy> crimsun, :P~
[01:50] <tidalwav1> Madpilot: I did try those instructions both with legacy and new drivers, and nothing works.
[01:50] <occy> hehe
[01:50] <tidalwav1> tk401: No idea why your x broke :P
[01:50] <bluefox83> how do you give someone access to sudo?
[01:50] <[FiDO] > can someone hlep me with this error I just did a fresh install everything worked fine but when I rebooted I got --- Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount to root fs on unknow-block(0,0)
[01:50] <frank23> Ephe-Linux: but that link is probably good...   you can open dvds in the dvdshrink menu now instead of the command line
[01:50] <avinoam> I had to install Windows on a computer where Ubuntu was installed
[01:51] <apokryphos> bluefox83: sudo adduser jimbob admin
[01:51] <thoreauputic> bluefox83: add tehnm to the admin group
[01:51] <seife> crimsun, do u understand whats wrong?
[01:51] <avinoam> It rewrote the MBR and now i need to reinstall grub- how do i do that?
[01:51] <crimsun> seife: in the first box, change alsasink to Custom, then in the box below type: alsasink device=hw:1
[01:51] <shad0w1e> is there any reason why my breezy box isnt advertising its name on the LAN?
[01:51] <tidalwav1> tk401, I think there's a command to reconfigure X manaully but I forget what it is :P
[01:51] <crimsun> my battery's going to die in 3 minutes
[01:51] <Orby_> !repositories
[01:51] <thoreauputic> !xorg
[01:51] <ubotu> hmm... sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[01:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:51] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: grub-install
[01:51] <seife> WOOOOOT I HAVE SOUND
[01:51] <thoreauputic> tk401: see ubotu
[01:51] <tk401> ubotu: yes thank you, i will try that
[01:51] <ubotu> tk401: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:51] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, it didn't do it
[01:52] <tiglionabbit> well that was frikking easy to do.  All I had to do was sudo nvidia-glx-config enable again
[01:52] <frank23> seife: what did you do?
[01:52] <NiGhTHiNG> Huh? what did you get?
[01:52] <tiglionabbit> and it works fine now
[01:52] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, claimed that it couldn't fine a device for boot
[01:52] <bluefox83> so, addgroup user admin?
[01:52] <thoreauputic> tk401: ubotu is a bot :)
[01:52] <seife> frank23, i invoqued crimsum, the master, the god.
[01:52] <tiglionabbit> I'm going to add that to the wiki
[01:52] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: You must have a correct menu.lst for it to work, I believe
[01:52] <frank23> seife: I see..
[01:52] <shad0w1e> is there any reason why my breezy box isnt advertising its name on the LAN?
[01:52] <xtr> Hi, is make in /bin or somewhere else?
[01:52] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: Please specify the error message
[01:52] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, where is that file?
[01:52] <tidalwav1> anyone know what the difference between nvidia-glx and the linux-restricted-modules nvidia package is?
[01:52] <Brunellus> does anybody know the hotkey to float gdesklets to the surface temproarirly?
[01:52] <tk401> tidalwav1: i can start gdm manually from command line by recovery mode, why won't it start otherwise?
[01:52] <crimsun> NiGhTHiNG: I need to reconnect from another wifi point. I'll be back in 20 minutes.
[01:52] <Orby_> !repository mirrors
[01:52] <ubotu> Orby_: Are you on ritalin?
[01:52] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:52] <Orby_> !mirrors
[01:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:52] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[01:52] <NiGhTHiNG> crimsun: Cheers
[01:52] <tidalwav1> tk401: ah, I misread what you wrote.
[01:53] <NiGhTHiNG> ?!
[01:53] <shad0w1e> help!!!!!!! My box isn't advertising its name on the LAN. I can only access it via ip address!!
[01:53] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: Do you have anything under /boot ?
[01:53] <[FiDO] > shadow: you need to have samba installed if its a windows network
[01:53] <shad0w1e> FiDO I can't even ping it!
[01:53] <seife> thank you crimsun
[01:53] <tk401> tidalwav1: no problem. this happened to me before with the preview release. i thought it was just going to work itself out by the final
[01:53] <[FiDO] > oh
[01:53] <shad0w1e> only by IP
[01:53] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, let me try running for /boot
[01:54] <[FiDO] > dns isn't working then
[01:54] <Ephe-Linux> How can I enter the gnome file browser with su rights?
[01:54] <seife> Does anybody knows how do i remove HDs icon of the desktop? I just want the icons on "Places".
[01:54] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: Just tell me if you have any files under /boot
[01:54] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, i'll check
[01:54] <Vanish> I tried to enable universe and got an error....
[01:54] <Vanish> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[01:54] <tidalwav1> tk401, could it have something to do with the .xsession file?
[01:54] <[FiDO] > can someone hlep me with this error I just did a fresh install everything worked fine but when I rebooted I got --- Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount to root fs on unknow-block(0,0)
[01:54] <thoreauputic> Ephe-Linux: gksudo nautilus - but be *very* careful
[01:54] <thirso> can anyone help me? OSS wont work
[01:54] <shad0w1e> well what do I do to fix DNS?
[01:55] <tk401> tidalwav1: I'm not sure what that file does actually, i'm still kinda new to linux
[01:55] <LaserLine> opera just broke on me..... and i don't have a clue why.
[01:55] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, I should point out that I'm using knoppix to do this
[01:55] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, and yes there are files
[01:55] <Ephe-Linux> thoreauputic: thanks
[01:55] <Rockett18> hey guys, does RealPlayer play without issue with the sound server on Breezy? Before I go and install it - otherwise i'd rather just do without (as everything works so great right now)
[01:55] <tidalwav1> tk401, so am I :P but try looking at the end of that file and see if you see anything about gnome-session
[01:55] <thoreauputic> Ephe-Linux: np :)
[01:55] <[FiDO] > hmm I'm not really sure how to help you shadow
[01:55] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: Ah, grub-install won't work without flags from knoppix, you have to tell it where to install to and where to grab grub's info from
[01:55] <[FiDO] > never had that problem before
[01:56] <seife> nalioth, you there?
[01:56] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, how do i do that? can i  do this with an ubuntu install CD?
[01:56] <shad0w1e> oh well
[01:56] <[FiDO] > I have my own problems right now
[01:56] <shad0w1e> teh sux0rz
[01:56] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: --root-directory is the flag you're looking for
[01:56] <bluefox83> does ubuntu ship with sshd by default?
[01:56] <shad0w1e> thanx anyway
[01:56] <[FiDO] > and I'm losing my mind
[01:56] <[FiDO] > can someone hlep me with this error I just did a fresh install everything worked fine but when I rebooted I got --- Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount to root fs on unknow-block(0,0)
[01:56] <thoreauputic> bluefox83: no
[01:56] <Rockett18> blufox: yeah but you gotta apt-get it
[01:56] <Ephe-Linux> There any websites with a lot of different Ubuntu wallpapers?
[01:56] <bluefox83> awelrhqegrtkl;frgk;fgr
[01:56] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: Something like "grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/my/wrecked/system/root/dir"
[01:56] <thoreauputic> bluefox83: install openssh-server
[01:56] <shad0w1e> bluefox83, breezy does not
[01:56] <bluefox83> does it have telnet?
[01:56] <apokryphos> Ephe-Linux: art.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <shad0w1e> I know warty did
[01:57] <seife> Does anybody knows how do i remove HDs icon of the desktop? I just want the icons on "Places".
[01:57] <seife> oops i repited, sorry. ;/
[01:57] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, can I do it with the ubuntu disk?
[01:57] <richard_> how do i install realplayer by this bin file that i have
[01:57] <tidalwav1> I'm out for now
[01:57] <shad0w1e> aight htanks
[01:57] <shad0w1e> cya
[01:57] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: You can do it with knoppix probably
[01:57] <shad0w1e> ill play wid it
[01:57] <Vanish> any familiar with this error?
[01:57] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, I have no idea
[01:57] <Kyral> seife, just delete'em
[01:57] <Vanish> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[01:57] <jze> Hiya.. I have a problem. I have mounted fat32 type hdb5 partition with options ro,umask=0000,showexec,quiet. I can see what the partiton has on it in GUI but I can't see anything in there in terminal. Why is this?
[01:57] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: Well try then
[01:57] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: And don't forget to "man grub-install"
[01:58] <thoreauputic> Vanish:  the servers are swamped - you can safely ignore that
[01:58] <Ephe-Linux> apokryphos: awesome
[01:58] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, I don't have a grub list anywhere
[01:59] <apple] [ci> This is my first ubuntu install & it went great! Can anyone point me towards some full ruby install help? irb, gems, etc...? Thanks
[01:59] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, there's no grub gui perhaps?
[01:59] <seife> Kyral, I cant.
[01:59] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: Huh? where is your wrecked system's root dir located? tell me the path to it
[01:59] <seife> The option is unavailable
[01:59] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, it's at hdc1
[01:59] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: Not the device, the mount point
[01:59] <thoreauputic> avinoam: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:59] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: Do you know how to mount a device?
[01:59] <GreenFireD> hello, why am I seeing this screen when I am open Azureus? http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=azureus2ga.png why it's not opening right away?
[02:00] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, yes
[02:00] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, /dev/hdc1
[02:00] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: That is the device, it's not the mount point
[02:00] <DariusTriplet> I have a brief question:  I'm trying to run HPLIP, but when I go to the "Administration" tab, it won't let me in
[02:00] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, do i need to mount the drive first?
[02:00] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: To mount a device you'd do something like "mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/blah"
[02:00] <thoreauputic> avinoam: that's the device - you need to cd to the mount point
[02:00] <DariusTriplet> I put root//<password> in, but it won't take it
[02:00] <m477> anyone have had any problems with glx on an ATI mobility since breezy?
[02:00] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: And then, you'd see the files there by doing "ls /mnt/blah"
[02:00] <tiglionabbit> I added a post-upgrade note about nvidia
[02:00] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, it's /mnt/hdc7
[02:01] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, excuse me, /mnt/hdc1
[02:01] <GreenFireD> hello, why am I seeing this screen when I am open Azureus? http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=azureus2ga.png why it's not opening right away?
[02:01] <thirso> GreenFireD, type azureus in the terminal
[02:01] <NiGhTHiNG> Ah, that's better
[02:01] <GreenFireD> how?
[02:01] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: And do you have something under /mnt/hdc1/boot/grub ?
[02:01] <shinu> hey
[02:01] <shinu> i just upgraded to breezy!
[02:01] <seife> Does anybody knows how do i remove HDs icon of the desktop? I just want the icons on "Places".
[02:01] <thirso> GreenFireD, acessories -> terminal
[02:01] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, yes
[02:01] <gusto5> horray! :p
[02:01] <Rockett18> GreenFireD: open a terminal and cd to the azureus directory.. then type ./azureus
[02:01] <NiGhTHiNG> shinu: Congrats :)
[02:01] <DariusTriplet> So, does anyone know how to have HPLIP recognize me?
[02:01] <shinu> but i have this weird bold font in xterm
[02:02] <shinu> its really hard to look at it
[02:02] <shinu> how can i change that?
[02:02] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: hit run, or run in terminal
[02:02] <GreenFireD> Rockett18, and I will need to do this every time to use the program?
[02:02] <shinu> gusto5 NiGhTHiNG :)
[02:02] <noodle_> shinu: Apps -> System Tools -> conf editor -> apps -> nautilus -> desktop
[02:02] <Rockett18> GreenFireD create a launcher on the desktop and point it to the file
[02:02] <shinu> noodle_: how about xfce?
[02:02] <Pupeno> Hello, from my newly installed Ubuntu notebook.
[02:02] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, there is a menu.list there
[02:02] <Vanish> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:02] <Vanish>  I typed that and I got msg Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:02] <GreenFireD> Rockett18, I want just to click on this program and it will be opened
[02:02] <noodle_> shinu: can't help u there :p
[02:02] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, er menu.list
[02:02] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, menu.lst
[02:02] <GreenFireD> Rockett18, but it will show this screen again
[02:02] <shinu> noodle_: thanks anyways :)
[02:03] <thoreauputic> !tell vanish about repos
[02:03] <Rockett18> GreenFireD, not after a launcher is made
[02:03] <GreenFireD> ok i will try
[02:03] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: Okay, so try this: "grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hdc1 /dev/hda"
[02:03] <noodle_> shinu: are u using nautilus on xfce bychance?
[02:03] <thoreauputic> Vanish: you need to enable universe at least
[02:03] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: That would install grub to your MBR on hda
[02:03] <shinu> noodle_: nautilus is the file browser right?
[02:03] <noodle_> shinu: yer
[02:04] <shinu> noodle_: nope, i just use terminal and sometimes rox
[02:04] <thirso> Can anyone help me? OSS wont work
[02:04] <NiGhTHiNG> If you want it on hdc's MBR, do the same, just change /dev/hda to /dev/hdc
[02:04] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, rm: cannot remove `/mnt/hdc1/boot/grub/stage1': Read-only file system
[02:04] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: If you want it on hdc's MBR, do the same, just change /dev/hda to /dev/hdc
[02:04] <noodle_> shinu: ok i dunno then =|
[02:04] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: Okay, so do this: "mount -o remount,rw /mnt/hdc1"
[02:04] <thoreauputic> thirso: you need to be more informative - "doesn't work " tells us nothing
[02:04] <ThomasM> [A
[02:04] <shinu> noodle_: thanks alright :P
[02:05] <DariusTriplet> I'm looking at the wiki page for my printer, but there's nothing pertaining to my problem at all.
[02:05] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: And repeat the grub-install command
[02:05] <bluefox83> does ubuntu come with anything by default that would let me log into my freind's pc so i can help him fix stuff?
[02:05] <m477> remote desktop bluefox83
[02:05] <bluefox83> wtf is that?
[02:05] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, can I reboot now?
[02:05] <thirso> thoreauputic, hm, at gstreamer-properties it fails when i select OSS and test, if i setup any program output to OSS it wont work either
[02:05] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: Did you get any errors?
[02:06] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, no
[02:06] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: So yes, you can
[02:06] <[FiDO] > can someone help me with this error I just did a fresh install everything worked fine but when I rebooted I got --- Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount to root fs on unknow-block(0,0)
[02:06] <avinoam> NiGhTHiNG, thank you
[02:06] <m477> http://ubuntuguide.org/#remotedesktop
[02:06] <NiGhTHiNG> avinoam: Thank me if it works ;)
[02:06] <thoreauputic> thirso: you would normally use the alsa sink as output I think
[02:06] <DariusTriplet> I have a brief question:  I'm trying to run HPLIP, but when I go to the "Administration" tab, it won't let me in
[02:06] <DariusTriplet> I put root//<password> in, but it won't take it
[02:06] <NiGhTHiNG> [FiDO] : Did you play with your kernel, hard-drives or partitions?
[02:06] <Buddha|> Are the Enlightenment packages still being updated?  They seem to be several versions behind.
[02:06] <GreenFireD> Rockett18, how can i do launcher?
[02:06] <thirso> thoreauputic, yeah but i cant get any sound on games
[02:06] <NiGhTHiNG> [FiDO] : Or filesystems?
[02:07] <[FiDO] > no Nighthing: I just did a fresh install
[02:07] <thirso> neither on cedega or RTCW:ET
[02:07] <thoreauputic> thirso: try  killall esd then run the game again and see if that works
[02:07] <[FiDO] > everything went fine and then I was greeted with the kernel panic error
[02:07] <seife> How do i  install my HP ScanJet 3200c?
[02:07] <m477> I've had problems with esd and games too
[02:07] <[FiDO] > I think grub is screwed up or somethign
[02:07] <Rockett18> right click on the desktop >> create launcher.. command is the path to the file i.e. "/home/srockett/azureus/azureus"
[02:07] <NiGhTHiNG> [FiDO] : What type of filesystem did you choose for the root fs?
[02:08] <occy> odd
[02:08] <[FiDO] > the default ext3
[02:08] <Rockett18> you must also select an icon by clicking on the no icon button
[02:08] <occy> I can't seem to log into gnome
[02:08] <james> Hi everyone, I'm new to Linux, I was wondering how I can get my audio to work.
[02:08] <lwells> I need some help, i cannot seem to get into admin mode with Breezy
[02:08] <thirso> thoreauputic, still nothing
[02:08] <NiGhTHiNG> [FiDO] : Okay, reboot and press escape when you're prompted to enter the grub menu
[02:08] <[FiDO] > k
[02:08] <kbrooks> lwells: sudo -s
[02:08] <m477> james, you're most likely to have a better response on the forums for hardware issues
[02:08] <GreenFireD> Rockett18, Thanks you :)
[02:09] <thoreauputic> thirso: well, I'm no sound expert - if crimsun is around he might have some ideas
[02:09] <shinu> anyone can help me? this bold font just looks really weird in this xterm...
[02:09] <james> how do I get to the forums?
[02:09] <NiGhTHiNG> [FiDO] : Then press 'e' to edit the boot options for your default kernel
[02:09] <kbrooks> m477: dont assume
[02:09] <loli`> wow, #Ubuntu is the most populated channel on freenode.
[02:09] <[FiDO] > ok let me try that jas
[02:09] <Rockett18> GreenFireD: no problem :)
[02:09] <thirso> thoreauputic, one guy told me to try this: modprobe snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss
[02:09] <s43y7> when i try to update my repistory apt-get says that there is a problem with the gpg-public key. any idea?
[02:09] <thirso> thoreauputic, and i got this error FATAL: Error inserting snd_pcm_oss (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/kernel/sound/core/oss/snd-pcm-oss.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[02:09] <lwells> Is Breezy real buggy??
[02:09] <thoreauputic> thirso: should be loaded by default I think
[02:09] <dao> loli`, uhm not realy
[02:09] <NiGhTHiNG> lwells: Works fine for me
[02:09] <apokryphos> lwells: it has reached stable status
[02:09] <loli`> no?
[02:10] <kbrooks> lwells: not really
[02:10] <DariusTriplet> Hm, anyone have an idea what to do, to have HPLIP take my username/password?
[02:10] <lwells> how do you get into admin mode
[02:10] <dao> #gentoo :)
[02:10] <NiGhTHiNG> lwells: Better than hoary on my laptop too. No more sound problems.
[02:10] <kbrooks> !root
[02:10] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:10] <kbrooks> lwells: define admin mode
[02:10] <s43y7> (by the way, THANKS for the help before with the soundcard. it works now)
[02:10] <loli`> I see #ubuntu as having 452 and next is #debian with 426, followed by ##linux with 400 even
[02:10] <Vanish> Got Gstream0.8-mad...thank all for the patience with me =D
[02:10] <[FiDO] > ~[ NiGhTHiNG ] ~ what do I choose
[02:11] <kbrooks> loli`: #debian is (or was?) the most populated chan on freenode
[02:11] <thoreauputic> loli`: there was a crack yesterday - #debian etc are probably still re-populating
[02:11] <lwells> admin mode, when you go into settings, there is an admin mode button to make changes
[02:11] <GreenFireD> does amaroK can play MP3 files?
[02:11] <NiGhTHiNG> [FiDO] : You have the line with the kernel options. Go to it and press 'e' again to edit it. Now read what's there and type it out for me.
[02:11] <thoreauputic> GreenFireD: yes
[02:11] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: of course
[02:11] <dao> loli`, somtimes on gentoo almost 1000
[02:12] <kbrooks> lwells: settings of what?
[02:12] <apokryphos> lwells: if it throws you back, try alt+f2 -> kdesu kcontrol
[02:12] <GreenFireD> why it writes me "some media could not be played"?
[02:12] <lwells> anything, mostly, "users", "network setting"
[02:12] <GreenFireD> I want to take music from win_c ..
[02:12] <NiGhTHiNG> [FiDO] : And be patient 'cos I'm getting coffee :)
[02:13] <DariusTriplet> I don't mean to be annoying or anything, but I'm getting somewhat desperate with this.  I use my printer a -lot-, and haven't been able to ever since installing Ubuntu.
[02:13] <[FiDO] > ~[ NiGhTHiNG ] ~ kernel /boot/vmlinux-2.7.12-9-38 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[02:13] <kbrooks> lwells: those are for editing files / running commands which require root privileges
[02:13] <[FiDO] > ~[ NiGhTHiNG ] ~ the ro is the problem isn't it
[02:13] <lwells> yep, that is what i wanto to do
[02:14] <cius> there any perl gurus in the house?
[02:14] <GreenFireD> why it writes me "some media could not be played"?
[02:14] <GreenFireD> I want to take music from win_c ..
[02:14] <bluefox83> hey..i can't seem to log in to my freind's pc via vlcviewer..any ideas?
[02:14] <bluefox83> er, VNCviewer
[02:14] <kbrooks> lwells: in the case of "users", modifying /etc/passwd requires root privs. so does passwd
[02:14] <[FiDO] > ~[ NiGhTHiNG ] ~ kernel /boot/vmlinux-2.6.12-9-38 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash sorry mistyped before
[02:14] <NiGhTHiNG> [FiDO] : No, I see no problem there
[02:14] <shinu> how do i change the fonts for my terminal? some things appear just really bold
[02:14] <lwells> i know, that is what i want to do
[02:14] <kbrooks> lwells: what?
[02:14] <DariusTriplet> Should I even use HPLIP?  My printer model doesn't even show up under the printer setup.
[02:14] <lwells> Network settings
[02:15] <kbrooks> lwells: so load it up dammit
[02:15] <[FiDO] > NiGhTHiNG:grrr I've been fighting with this all day in one way or another
[02:15] <lwells> i can load it up, wont let me change anything
[02:15] <DariusTriplet> shinu; are there any command-line options for it?
[02:15] <kbrooks> lwells: what dist
[02:15] <kbrooks> ro
[02:15] <cius> would anyone happen to know what perl string I must pass to rename if I want it to simply remove all spaces from the filenames I want to change?
[02:15] <NiGhTHiNG> [FiDO] : What kinda hard drive you got there?
[02:15] <kbrooks> distro of ubuntu
[02:15] <lwells> Breezy
[02:15] <theantidj> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me connect to a network that requires 802.1x authentication
[02:16] <kbrooks> lwells: file a bug report
[02:16] <bluefox83> does ubuntu have a restore function where you can restore it to the deafult settings and such?
[02:16] <shinu> DariusTriplet: for what? terminal?
[02:16] <sockpuppe1> Hey guys I need a little help with monitor configureation
[02:16] <GreenFireD> the music is locked or something... stange..
[02:16] <DariusTriplet> shinu, yes.
[02:16] <sockpuppe1> if someone could help
[02:16] <kbrooks> lwells: i tested loading network-admin without root privs and it prompted for pass to that
[02:16] <shinu> DariusTriplet: i usually run xterm -fg green -bg black
[02:17] <[FiDO] > ~[ NiGhTHiNG ] ~ Western Digital
[02:17] <sockpuppe1> I found a guide, and i have trouble interpreting it
[02:17] <lwells> i put in the pass, still does not work
[02:17] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: what amarok engine are you using?
[02:17] <shinu> DariusTriplet: before the upgrade everything was fine, now some things appear weirdly bold
[02:17] <[FiDO] > ~[ NiGhTHiNG ] ~ I ran a bunch of tests on it there's nothing wrong with it
[02:17] <kbrooks> lwells: umm
[02:17] <kbrooks> lwells:
[02:17] <kbrooks> !sudo
[02:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:17] <sockpuppe1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54544hine,
[02:17] <sockpuppe1> please help
[02:18] <thoreauputic> shinu: ctrl-rightclick in xterm to adjust fonts
[02:18] <Vanish> Any have a problem with amarok not having volume?
[02:18] <DariusTriplet> shinu, is it stuff that should be bold?
[02:18] <GreenFireD> apokryphos, 1.3.1(using KDE 3.4.3) but I don't have KDE ... :(
[02:18] <NiGhTHiNG> [FiDO] : No, didn't think something's wrong, thought it was some kinda weird unsupported model
[02:18] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: doesn't matter. What amarok *engine* are you using? Settings -> Configure amaroK -> engine
[02:18] <GreenFireD> mybe I just need to restart the computer after i installed this program?
[02:18] <NiGhTHiNG> [FiDO] : Quite frankly, I'm stumped. Sorry..
[02:18] <DariusTriplet> shinu, or is the entire fontset acting strange?
[02:18] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: no; this isn't Windoze :P
[02:18] <sockpuppe1> greetings thoreauputic
[02:19] <GreenFireD> :)
[02:19] <NiGhTHiNG> [FiDO] : Try #linuxhelp, they might have more ideas..
[02:19] <shinu> DariusTriplet: thing that usually are bold, are bold but now its kinda flashy weird...
[02:19] <GreenFireD> gstreamer
[02:19] <GreenFireD> or somthing..
[02:19] <[FiDO] > ~[ NiGhTHiNG ] ~ when I run it in diagnostic mode it gives me some extra information jas
[02:19] <shinu> DariusTriplet: really hard to read..
[02:19] <DariusTriplet> shinu, try running it with -fb <font>
[02:19] <nicedreams> can someone direct me to the page to install ATI drivers on Breezy?
[02:19] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: make sure you also have akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad installed
[02:19] <NiGhTHiNG> [FiDO] : Like what kinda extra info?
[02:19] <Pupeno> Has Evolution a way to easy the filtering of mailing lists mails ?
[02:19] <apokryphos> !tell nicedreams about ati
[02:19] <nicedreams> thx
[02:20] <sockpuppe1> can someone help
[02:20] <GreenFireD> apokryphos, ooh god, how to do this?
[02:20] <DariusTriplet> shinu, if nothing else, that'll just put it in a new fontset, and hopefully will look better.
[02:20] <[FiDO] > ~[ NiGhTHiNG ] ~ it says to append a correct root= boot option
[02:20] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: fire up synaptic and install them from there
[02:20] <GreenFireD> ok
[02:20] <bluefox83> Pupeno, of course it does
[02:20] <n0odl3> how do i move to KDE?
[02:20] <AutOPSY> How well does Ubuntu's LiveCD work?
[02:20] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: make sure you have enabled the Universe repository
[02:20] <sockpuppe1> install kubuntu-desktop
[02:20] <apokryphos> n0odl3: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:21] <Vanish> Any have a problem with amarok not having volume?
[02:21] <Rockett18> hey guys.. what package do I need to make beep-media-player play m4a and wma?
[02:21] <n0odl3> after that will KDE just take affect
[02:21] <apokryphos> Vanish: make sure you have akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:21] <Rockett18> totem-xine can do it now
[02:21] <NiGhTHiNG> [FiDO] : Ummm.... do you have an initrd=blahblah line in the grub menu for the default kernel?
[02:21] <apokryphos> n0odl3: after that you can login to kde, yes.
[02:21] <n0odl3> i dont have to do anything with gnome
[02:21] <sockpuppe1> rockett sudo apt-get build-dep beep-media-player
[02:21] <GreenFireD> I can't find gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:21] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: enable the Universe repository
[02:21] <apokryphos> !tell GreenFireD about repositories
[02:21] <AutOPSY> I've got a strange occurance with the CD, like it seems like the RAM is being flushed.
[02:22] <n0odl3> what wil happen to gnome?
[02:22] <zrothe> Helo
[02:22] <zrothe> help
[02:22] <apokryphos> n0odl3: it will still exist, unless you choose to remove it
[02:22] <sockpuppe1> itll still be there noodle
[02:22] <nalioth> GreenFireD: enable the multiverse repo, also
[02:22] <DariusTriplet> shinu, I see what you're saying about the bold - it's nearly impossible to read
[02:22] <thoreauputic> n00nothing - you chooses your seesion at login
[02:22] <cyphase> how do you change the language in openoffice?
[02:22] <n0odl3> how can i remove it after i see that kde is running fine?
[02:22] <DariusTriplet> I don't mean to be annoying or anything, but I'm getting somewhat desperate with this.  I use my printer a -lot-, and haven't been able to ever since installing Ubuntu.
[02:22] <apokryphos> nalioth: how to kill a given btdownloadcurses?
[02:22] <inc595> so who's running breezy?
[02:22] <AutOPSY> An application, in this case the Screensaver application just wouldn't respond after raising the time to 720 minutes or similar.
[02:22] <sockpuppe1> is here a possibility that someone can help me out
[02:22] <DariusTriplet> HPLIP isn't taking "root//<password>" for Administration.
[02:23] <apokryphos> n0odl3: remove something vital, like libgtksomething
[02:23] <shinu> DariusTriplet: did you notice just now? :)
[02:23] <loli`> inc595, I'm running Breezy :)
[02:23] <DariusTriplet> shinu, I usually use gnome-terminal
[02:23] <Vanish> I have akode-mpeg & gstreamer0.8-mad, how can I get sound from Amarok?
[02:23] <inc595> i'm upgrading my laptop right now
[02:23] <apokryphos> n0odl3: or, if you're on a fresh install just use debfoster with kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop
[02:23] <shinu> DariusTriplet: i see
[02:23] <apokryphos> Vanish: what engine are you using?
[02:23] <inc595> loli`, how you like it?
[02:23] <n0odl3> fresh install?
[02:23] <zrothe> I cant get my resolution higher than 1024x768 can someone lend me a hand?
[02:23] <NiGhTHiNG> 'k booting..
[02:23] <marcellus> Does anyone know a reason to why there isn't a libgtk2-pixbuf-perl (there is a libgtk-pixbuf-perl) in Breezy?
[02:23] <n0odl3> im really afraid that after i move to kde
[02:23] <sockpuppe1> zrothe what grafx card
[02:23] <sockpuppe1> ?
[02:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zrothe about fixres
[02:24] <loli`> I'm happy with how it turned out. I had a little trouble with my wireless network adapter, though.
[02:24] <n0odl3> gnome is just a big suck on my hd space
[02:24] <DariusTriplet> shinu, did changing the font work?
[02:24] <zrothe> 6800
[02:24] <shinu> DariusTriplet: erm, not sure what to change to...
[02:24] <zrothe> sockpuppel 6800
[02:24] <sockpuppe1> ubotu: !tell me about fixres
[02:24] <ubotu> sockpuppe1: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:24] <marcellus> Especially since the docs for Gtk2::Gdk::Pixbuf is available.
[02:24] <hosler> Help! I am having trouble getting my nvidia card to work correctly. I installed nvidia-glx through synaptic, but when I try to run glxgears/glxinfo nothing happens. Is there a solution?
[02:24] <inc595> loli`, how long it take you to download... took me 59 mins for 523 MB
[02:24] <apokryphos> n0odl3: very easy to remove, don't you worry about that :)
[02:24] <AutOPSY> I'll try another LiveCD, maybe it is the PSU wattage.
[02:24] <n0odl3> ok
[02:24] <[FiDO] > ~[ NiGhTHiNG ] ~ yeah I do jas
[02:24] <sockpuppe1>  ubotu:!tell me about fixres
[02:24] <ubotu> sockpuppe1: I give up, what is it?
[02:25] <sockpuppe1> nevermind
[02:25] <loli`> I don't know, I set it and left the computer to fix dinner. It was done before I was finished eating. :)
[02:25] <apokryphos> sockpuppe1: /msg ubotu fixres
[02:25] <inc595> kool
[02:25] <loli`> Are you on Hoary now?
[02:25] <quam> sock, quit using the nick completion crap and just do !tell
[02:25] <apokryphos> n0odl3: feel free to join us in #kubuntu too
[02:25] <sockpuppe1> apokryphos is there a chance you could help?
[02:25] <shuddertrix_> Why are Tor users banned?
[02:25] <inc595> loli`, i hope my ireless still runs it was a pain to configure
[02:25] <sockpuppe1> quam I got the message
[02:25] <quam> my wireless no longer works :p
[02:25] <loli`> If it doesn't, you can use ndiswrapper and the windows drivers.
[02:26] <GreenFireD> ok i did
[02:26] <apokryphos> sockpuppe1: ...with?
[02:26] <quam> i used ndiswrapper. what i did in hoary no longer works in breezy :p
[02:26] <sockpuppe1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54544hine,
[02:26] <DariusTriplet> shinu, I'm looking online, lots of howtos on how to do it, but no suggestions on possible fonts.
[02:26] <Buddha|> Are the Enlightenment packages still being updated?  They seem to be several versions behind.
[02:26] <inc595> i didn't have to use ndiswrapper to get it running
[02:26] <sockpuppe1> im having difficulty understanding what to do
[02:26] <shinu> DariusTriplet: i think i got something
[02:26] <Vanish> Any info on how to get sound from Amarok?
[02:26] <[FiDO] > ~[ NiGhTHiNG ] ~ initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-386
[02:27] <apokryphos> Vanish: as I said, what engine?
[02:27] <Bobby_chen> wut is a program i can use to burn dvds with, like to add video files from my pc (which are front my DCam)
[02:27] <Dreamglider> the update manager gives me this error -> http://pastebin.com/395984 and tells me that i have a broken package, how can i fix it ?
[02:27] <shinu> DariusTriplet: glanced in manpage and found something under -fb section of xterm
[02:27] <sockpuppe1> there is a section by gcristofol that im not getting
[02:27] <shinu> DariusTriplet: tried xterm -fb boldMode/boldFont and worked fine
[02:27] <shinu> i think...
[02:27] <inc595> quam, you gonna downgrade?
[02:27] <DariusTriplet> shinu, sounds good then.
[02:27] <sockpuppe1> what can you make of it apokryphos?
[02:27] <Bobby_chen> wut is a program i can use to burn dvds with, like to add video files from my pc then burn (which are from my DCam)
[02:28] <quam> inc: hell no :p
[02:28] <loli`> Bobby_chen:  What format are the videos?
[02:28] <quam> ill just use wired
[02:28] <apokryphos> sockpuppe1: don't know about it I'm afraid
[02:28] <Bobby_chen> avi
[02:28] <shinu> DariusTriplet: where can i set it up so that when i type xterm its xterm -fb boldMode y default?
[02:28] <nalioth> Dreamglider: everyone is getting that, it will sort itself out
[02:28] <GreenFireD> ok amaroK works, but I don't hear nothing..
[02:28] <shuddertrix_> Why is there a channel ban on *!*@tor/* ?
[02:29] <alpha232> Mornin....
[02:29] <DariusTriplet> shinu, dunno, there's probably a .conf for it somewhere.
[02:29] <GreenFireD> forget! thanks!
[02:29] <loli`> GreenFireD, it doesn't work if you don't hear anything
[02:29] <shinu> DariusTriplet: ok, ill look for it, thanks a lot!
[02:29] <inc595> quam, so what you like best about breezy over hoary
[02:29] <Dreamglider> nalioth, it has been there for quite a while now
[02:29] <dodgyville> Hi, how can I format text of unrestricted width to have maximum width of 80 chars (in a .txt file)?
[02:29] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: try installing amarok-xine, if you like
[02:29] <MEEEs> could some one tell me how i would use the ftp comand? ftp bob:pass@site.com:21 don't work
[02:29] <DariusTriplet> shinu, you're welcome.  Worst case, just make a script/launcher or something with that option.
[02:29] <GreenFireD> apokryphos, What is it?
[02:29] <shinu> DariusTriplet: yup
[02:29] <Bobby_chen> loli` avis
[02:29] <quam> inc: i dunno :P i just like having new stuff :p both kde and gnome have gained a lot of ground
[02:29] <nalioth> Dreamglider: it will sort itself
[02:30] <zerboxx> I'm attempting to install something, and it's telling me to adjust ACLOCAL_FLAGS, how do I do this?
[02:30] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: the xine engine for amaroK -- my engine of choice, really.
[02:30] <loli`> Bobby_chen, I don't know.
[02:30] <DariusTriplet> I'll ask one last time:  Anyone know what's going on when HPLIP refuses to accept my root password?
[02:30] <[FiDO] > xfce is the best though runs so much faster
[02:30] <inc595> well hopefully stuff doesn't crash as often on my laptop
[02:30] <apokryphos> !start a desktop war
[02:30] <inc595> [FiDO] , I like flux
[02:30] <ubotu> fluxbox is much better than xfce!
[02:30] <Bobby_chen> loli` thanx anyways
[02:30] <loli`> MEEEs,  that is the proper command
[02:31] <GreenFireD> apokryphos, I have one problem, my music is in Hebrew, and I am seeing Gibrish instead of Hebrew.
[02:31] <hosler> Help! I am having trouble getting my nvidia card to work correctly. I installed nvidia-glx through synaptic, but when I try to run glxgears/glxinfo nothing happens. Is there a solution?
[02:31] <[FiDO] > ftp address port
[02:31] <loli`> ftp://user:pass@www.site.com
[02:31] <Dreamglider> it's been there for 3 days now, after i did a dist upgrade. but only on my laptop not my stationary.
[02:31] <DariusTriplet> shinu, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/346241
[02:31] <GreenFireD> there is encoding or something in the program?
[02:31] <DariusTriplet> shinu, maybe that'll help.
[02:31] <dabaR> MEEEs: just log in interactively. ftp site.com then go from there.
[02:31] <[FiDO] > do you mean in linux or web browser
[02:31] <inc595> oh no.. get locals failures.. hopefully my upgrade doesn't fail
[02:32] <MEEEs> loli`: this is the ftp comand from terminal i mean
[02:32] <DariusTriplet> Alright, I'm out for now, and taking my broken printer with me. :P
[02:32] <loli`> oh
[02:32] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: that's a locals issue
[02:32] <[FiDO] > yeah ftp address port
[02:32] <MEEEs> loli`: how do i say it there
[02:32] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: try installing the hebrew language pack
[02:32] <loli`> MEEEs, what terminal command are you using?
[02:32] <MEEEs> ftp
[02:32] <[FiDO] > do man ftp if you want to know all the options
[02:33] <[FiDO] > will give you the syntax there too
[02:33] <lwells> I need help with my wireless network
[02:33] <GreenFireD> apokryphos, hebrew pack to the program or to the UBUNTU? because I have hebrew in the linux..
[02:33] <protokol> hello all
[02:33] <Vanish> hi
[02:33] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: hebrew to kde
[02:33] <kbrooks> GreenFireD: ubuntu not UBUNTU
[02:33] <MEEEs> [FiDO] :  want to know how to enter in user password and site before ftp starts
[02:33] <theantidj> hello.
[02:33] <MEEEs> and poert
[02:33] <MEEEs> port
[02:34] <[FiDO] > i'm not sure you can from the command line
[02:34] <protokol> i just installed breezy and my xorg resolution is way to low, xorg.conf looks ok (default depth 24) but it wont let me select other modes with the control panel thing
[02:34] <GreenFireD> I will try to change font
[02:34] <Vanish> Any have info on how to get sound from Amarok, I have .mpg & .8-mad, my engine in just blank
[02:34] <apokryphos> !tell protokol about resolution
[02:34] <loli`> MEEEs
[02:34] <apokryphos> Vanish: install amarok-xine
[02:35] <loli`> MEEEs, type ftp in command line, when prompted give your username and password.
[02:35] <kbrooks> $ ftp
[02:35] <MEEEs> [FiDO] : is this right for the most ftp site.com 21
[02:35] <kbrooks> ftp> o hostname
[02:35] <[FiDO] > yup
[02:35] <ivanox> any clue to why my shift keys stopped working+
[02:35] <MEEEs> so is that as far as i gose
[02:36] <[FiDO] > if you type man ftp it will tell you all the flags and stuff you can use too
[02:36] <theantidj> Is someone available to help me get my box running on a network?
[02:36] <shinu> how do i make the changes to ~/.Xresources working straight away without restarting X ?
[02:36] <loli`> shinu,  you don't
[02:36] <MEEEs> [FiDO] : so you can't do any more that that?
[02:36] <MEEEs> like then you have to do i after
[02:36] <shinu> loli`: why?..
[02:36] <[FiDO] > ~[ MEEEs ] ~ yeah its like a ftp client
[02:37] <pupil> I just installed ubuntu server,. I put in the network card after the install,. so now I need to detect and set it up ,.. how do I do this with the console
[02:37] <loli`> shinu, I don't know. :)
[02:37] <MEEEs> just esayer if i want to sedulal comands
[02:37] <Toba> hey, is the vnc in ubuntu encrypted?
[02:37] <ivanox> please help me, both shift keys stopped working....
[02:37] <shinu> loli`: xD
[02:37] <dabaR> MEEEs: what is your error?
[02:37] <[FiDO] > ~[ MEEEs ] ~ why do you even care that you can't enter it all at once
[02:38] <pupil> if there is a howto for it,. please direct me to it
[02:38] <pupil>  I just installed ubuntu server,. I put in the network card after the install,. so now I need to detect and set it up ,.. how do I do this with the console
[02:38] <loli`> I have a nice little noob question for you code jockeys
[02:38] <m477> do you know what type of network card it is pupil ?
[02:38] <loli`> I want to start learning to program, what language should I choose first?
[02:38] <cius> Is there any particular reason that build-essentials wouldn't show up when I search for it using synaptic?
[02:39] <loli`> cius, you spelled it wrong
[02:39] <dabaR> MEEEs: what is sedual?
[02:39] <pupil> m477, its realtek
[02:39] <loli`> dabaR, he meant schedual
[02:39] <SEJeff> cius: because the package name is build-essential :)
[02:39] <bimberi> cius: build-essential (no s)
[02:39] <loli`> schedule*
[02:39] <Madpilot> cius: leave the s off the end
[02:39] <cius> loli, dang, there is no s is thee?
[02:39] <cius> yes
[02:39] <pupil> m477, isn't there a script to auto detect it,. ?
[02:39] <cius> ok
[02:39] <cius> I got it now
[02:39] <dabaR> loli`: I thought that may be the case.
[02:39] <cius> sorry for the bother...:-)
[02:39] <cyphase> How do you change the language in OpenOffice?
[02:39] <bimberi> np :)
[02:39] <dabaR> MEEEs: what is the error you get?
[02:39] <loli`> np cuis
[02:39] <MEEEs> dabaR: sorry can't spell
[02:39] <dabaR> Hi, everyone.
[02:40] <Logikal> wait
[02:40] <nalioth> cius: you just aren't seeing it?
[02:40] <Logikal> is the offical release out yet?
[02:40] <apokryphos> yes
[02:40] <bimberi> Logikal: yes
[02:40] <Logikal> since when
[02:40] <bimberi> October 13
[02:40] <occy> hmm
[02:40] <bluefox83> does anyone here know how to find out what compiler was used when compiling a binary in apt?
[02:40] <m477> pupil, try sudo modprobe rtl8139
[02:40] <occy> I can't seem to launch my printing tool.      System | Administration | Printing
[02:40] <Logikal> I need to upgrade then?
[02:40] <occy> :/
[02:40] <shinu> yay!
[02:40] <cius> nalioth, I see it now
[02:40] <shinu> got it working!
[02:40] <thechitowncubs> any of you guys know where i can get a banner for ubuntu?
[02:40] <occy> it starts up, and then never comes up.
[02:40] <cius> nalioth, I had the package name wrong...
[02:40] <thechitowncubs> i want to put a link on my website
[02:41] <thechitowncubs> but I can't find a decent banner
[02:41] <Logikal> thechitowncubs i had a sweet ubuntu forever background
[02:41] <mae> what command would i use to scan for wireless networks?
[02:41] <kbrooks> thechitowncubs: um
[02:41] <cius> so, if I'm going to do some development in c++, do I need build-essential?
[02:41] <kbrooks> cius: yes
[02:41] <cius> kbrooks, do I also need to get g++?
[02:41] <axisys> is there a way i can filter out join and quit messages in irssi
[02:42] <mae> no
[02:42] <mae> its included in essential
[02:42] <cius> mae, thanks
[02:42] <Vanish> I have xine engine picked for Amarok still no sound, anybody know what the problem could be?
[02:42] <sudonim> how can you get fileroller to see unrar-free?
[02:42] <apokryphos> Vanish: volume not turned up
[02:43] <nalioth> sudonim: install unrar-nonfree
[02:43] <Vanish> its up, wish that was the problem
[02:43] <bimberi> Logikal: up to you, hoary continues to get security updates until October 2006
[02:43] <theantidj> I'm on a university network that requires 802.1x, and can't seem to find the right info to get my machine on it.
[02:43] <sudonim> nalioth: Where is unrar-nonfree?
[02:43] <Vanish> all out of ideas of what it could be?
[02:43] <dabaR> multiverse
[02:43] <nalioth> sudonim: in multiverse
[02:44] <kbrooks> bimberi: warty has no sec updates correct
[02:44] <kbrooks> as of the 13th
[02:44] <nalioth> how do you reconfigure your network hardware?
[02:44] <GreenFireD> what is the time now in USA?
[02:44] <kbrooks> GreenFireD: why
[02:44] <bimberi> kbrooks: warty till April '06
[02:44] <theantidj> 8:44 - 11:44
[02:44] <GreenFireD> kbrooks, interesting
[02:44] <cafuego_> nalioth: You could run etherconf, or click the network icon on the panel.
[02:44] <kbrooks> nalioth: is that a stupid question?
[02:44] <GreenFireD> am?
[02:44] <shinu> my terminal works nearly like before!
[02:44] <dabaR> GreenFireD: the USA has several time zones.
[02:44] <kbrooks> if i may ask
[02:44] <theantidj> Greenfire: PM
[02:45] <GreenFireD> walla
[02:45] <GreenFireD> ok
[02:45] <cafuego_> it's 10:45 am in Australia (but the next day)
[02:45] <shuddertrix_> GreenFireD: 8:44 PM EDT, 7:44 PM CDT, 6:44 PM MDT, 5:44 PDT (IIRC)
[02:45] <dabaR> one up.
[02:45] <Toba> yeah
[02:45] <GreenFireD> in Israel now 2:48 am ... ok never mind
[02:45] <Toba> it's :45
[02:45] <TylerE> Just ran into an issue trying to install 5.10. It wouldn't detect the installation CD. The installer started fine, prompted for keyboard etc, just couldn't mount the CD. This was the AMD64 version btw
[02:45] <Rockett18> 9:44ADT ;)
[02:46] <Toba> it's :46.....................................................now
[02:46] <GreenFireD> lol
[02:46] <cyphase> Does anyone know how you change the language in OpenOffice?
[02:46] <zerboxx> Could someone gedit their /etc/alternative/aclocal, and let me know what their line 37 says PLEASE!!!
[02:46] <cafuego_> cyphase: Tools -> Options -> Writer -> Language
[02:46] <cyphase> hmm
[02:47] <cyphase> nope
[02:47] <kbrooks> What is etherconf?
[02:47] <cafuego_> Yes.
[02:47] <cyphase> i've looked in options
[02:47] <dodgyville> Is there a text editor that lets you reformat plain text to a certain width?
[02:47] <kbrooks> What is etherconf?
[02:47] <cafuego_> !info etherconf
[02:47] <pupil> m477, sudo modporbe rtl8139  FATAL: Module rtl8138 not found
[02:47] <ubotu> etherconf: (debconf interface to Ethernet device configuration), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.17-0.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 41 kB, Installed size: 188 kB
[02:47] <kbrooks> ah
[02:48] <sudonim> When I followed the instructions to enable the multiverse in synaptic, it failed to update. Is it down for anyone else?
[02:48] <zerboxx> anyone? help with aclocal please!!!
[02:48] <tristanmike> zerboxx, I don't have that file
[02:48] <m477> If it's a generic realtek, that should work pupil, check to make sure the card isn't faulty
[02:48] <m477> generic realteks should come up auto
[02:48] <pupil> m477, card is definately not faulty,. maybe its not realtek,. let me look again
[02:49] <zerboxx> tristanmike, you don't? I think I've installed 3 extra things on my fresh install, and none of it was aclocal :/ so how'd I get it...
[02:49] <wolverian> where should I look for help on Xv not working on an ATI Radeon?
[02:49] <cafuego_> pupil: Run 'lspci'
[02:49] <m477> There's a view variations of the same chipset
[02:49] <tristanmike> zerboxx, i'm running hoary
[02:49] <wolverian> (on Breezy)
[02:49] <dabaR> why after upgrading to breezy, I still have the 2.6.10 kernel?
[02:49] <m477> yeah, that thanks cafuego
[02:49] <shinu> anyone had problems with azureus after upgrade to breezy?
[02:49] <cafuego_> dabaR: Because kernels are never forcibly upgraded. That only leads to severe breakage.
[02:49] <zerboxx> tristanmike, ah, ok, thanks :)
[02:50] <cafuego_> dabaR: You can install linux-image-2.6.12-9-CPUTYPE
[02:50] <cyphase> cafuego_, it's not working
[02:50] <cyphase> what is the exact option name?
[02:50] <zerboxx> can anyone let me know what line 37 of /etc/alternatives/aclocal is??
[02:50] <kbrooks> !info linux-image
[02:50] <shuddertrix_> zerboxx: Don't seem to have that, fresh Breezy install.
[02:50] <kbrooks> !info kernel-image
[02:51] <frank23> shinu: do you have the "can't connect to peers" problem?
[02:51] <shinu> frank23: i have the 'azu doesnt start' problem :/
[02:51] <cafuego_> Tools -> Options -> Language Settings
[02:51] <zerboxx> shuddertrix_, you don't have /etc/alternatives/aclocal? damn, now I have no idea how I got it
[02:51] <shinu> frank23: when i run azu it just kinda runs java and nothing...
[02:51] <cyphase> cafuego_, ok..
[02:51] <frank23> shinu:  try java -version
[02:51] <cafuego_> cyphase: Of course, you need to have the required language kit installed.
[02:51] <cyphase> i do
[02:52] <dabaR> cafuego_: I should stick with this kernel, if it works fine for me, right?
[02:52] <cyphase> cafuedo_, it's a CTL language..
[02:52] <cafuego_> dabaR: if you'd rather have the newer one with inotify support for beagle, grab 2.6.12. You cna always switch back. Install 'usplash' first though, for nice bootup gfx.
[02:53] <cyphase> do i just have to switch to CTL?
[02:53] <cafuego_> CTL?
[02:53] <cyphase> complex text layout
[02:53] <cafuego_> upside down back to front - hmmm.
[02:53] <dabaR> cafuego_: yeah, wth is up with that? Why is that not installed by defafult either?
[02:53] <cyphase> right to left
[02:53] <pupil> m477, is there an ncurses type wizard for hardware detection,. or new devices plugged in,.
[02:53] <cafuego_> cyphase: Do you have that set in the LANG and LOCALE vars too?
[02:53] <shinu> frank23: java version "1.4.2"
[02:54] <m477> none that I know, except for in the installer
[02:54] <cafuego_> dabaR: It is on a new install , not on an update.
[02:54] <frank23> shinu: is it blackdown?
[02:54] <cafuego_> dabaR: POrobably a depend it's in isn't eon by default or something.
[02:54] <m477> run "lspci"
[02:54] <sudonim> apparrently the multiverse isnt up and running for breezy yet.
[02:55] <apokryphos> sure it is
[02:55] <dabaR> cafuego_: its even installed, why is it not loading on boot?
[02:55] <shinu> frank23: sorry?
[02:56] <sudonim> apokryphos: This post confirms what I am experiencing: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77013&highlight=multiverse
[02:56] <cafuego_> dabaR: It's not added to the kernel automagically. 'dpkg -reconfigure <kernel package name>' will enable it. (I think it needs to add stuff to the initrd)
[02:56] <frank23> shinu: what is the next line after version
[02:56] <soultaker> hello to all
[02:56] <shinu> frank23: gij i believe
[02:56] <apokryphos> sudonim: probably another case of crummy us mirror
[02:56] <shinu> frank23: gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[02:56] <frank23> shinu: that's why it doesn't work
[02:56] <dabaR> Ill search the wiki. So, install that kernel image you said above, and it will add itself to grub?
[02:56] <soultaker> i have a question about the new version 5.10
[02:57] <dabaR> cafuego_: ^
[02:57] <pupil> m477, the last ouit put says " 0000:00:13:.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS)
[02:57] <shinu> frank23: see, do i have to upgrade java?
[02:57] <frank23> shinu: did you have sun's java before?
[02:57] <foxiness> dabaR, i think it will
[02:57] <apokryphos> sudonim: heh, or not. breezy-backports doesn't exist yet, afaik
[02:57] <m477> then try "sudo modprobe rtl8029"
[02:57] <cafuego_> dabaR: ... and you need to add the 'splash' boot param to the kernel.
[02:57] <foxiness> anyone test grub2 ?
[02:57] <shinu> frank23: think so, azureus was working without any problems
[02:57] <apokryphos> sudonim: the error has nothing to do with universe, and all to do with breezy-backports being in there
[02:57] <cafuego_> m477: Those are 'ne2k-pci'
[02:57] <Toma-> anyone know what package the X headers come in with breezy?
[02:57] <m477> ok
[02:57] <apokryphos> Toma-: libx11-dev
[02:58] <m477> I was just checking
[02:58] <sudonim> apokryphos: So if I want unrar-notfree I should wait for a while?
[02:58] <dabaR> its too hard:( hah.
[02:58] <apokryphos> sudonim: no; get it from multiverse
[02:58] <apokryphos> sudonim: take the breezy-backports out of there
[02:58] <pschulz01> Icons.. I 'dist-upgrade'd my hoary to breezy an I'm getting complaints about not being to find 'gnome-fs-home'.
[02:58] <nicoal> is there a way to have postfix listen only on the internal interfaces but be able to deliver mail anywhere?
[02:58] <Toma-> apokryphos: ive got that... but the configure im running is still complainging about no X headers
[02:58] <m477> pupil: sudo modbrobe ne2k-pci
[02:58] <pschulz01> What package are these icons in?
[02:59] <pupil> m477, that seems to have worked?
[02:59] <pupil> m477, now wha4t?
[02:59] <apokryphos> Toma-: well, they're the X includes. What are you compiling?
[02:59] <dabaR> I have the 2.6.12.9 installed already, I dont think it offers me that in menu.lst. Ill double check now.
[02:59] <Toma-> apokryphos: superkaramba
[02:59] <m477> are you running it off a dhcp address, or setting an ip pupil ?
[02:59] <nalioth> Toma-: install xlibs-dev xlibs-static-dev and x-windows-system-dev
[02:59] <cafuego_> nicoal: You can either firewall external IPs or set postfix to listen on 127.0.0.1 (or another internal IP) via params to the services in master.cf
[02:59] <apokryphos> Toma-: use build-dep
[02:59] <pupil> m477, dhcp
[02:59] <pupil> m477, but I have to set it up
[02:59] <Toma-> ok thanks
[02:59] <m477> yeap
[02:59] <dabaR> Whatever, Ill brb, going to reboot.
[03:00] <apokryphos> Toma-: so.. sudo apt-get build-dep superkaramba  ...it'll do it all for you
[03:00] <m477> sudo ifup interface
[03:00] <m477> if it's eth0, etc for interface
[03:00] <dazvid> Quick question, whats the file name for the C libraries?
[03:00] <Toma-> ok thanks :)
[03:00] <cheemp> how would i install what i need to be able to use arm-linux-uclibc-gcc ?
[03:00] <raingrove> hey
[03:01] <raingrove> ALSA vs OSS which do u recommend?
[03:01] <shuddertrix_> Alsa by far.
[03:01] <raingrove> Why so?
[03:01] <nicoal> cafuego_, ah, ok, thanks
[03:01] <shuddertrix_> OSS is outdated, deprecated.
[03:01] <foxiness> any case truble with grub like (hd0,z) must change to (hd0,n) and hdan to hdaz ? and how can i learn grub to take correct info "i know how-to edit it on menu.lst"
[03:01] <pupil> m477, what do you mean by etc for eth0 ?
[03:01] <pupil> eth0 is not up
[03:01] <raingrove> shuddertrix_,  i am experiencing a slight latency problem
[03:01] <m477> pupil: is it the only network card in the system?
[03:01] <pupil> m477, there is a wireless one
[03:02] <raingrove> shuddertrix_, the sound only plays like 0.5 seconds later?
[03:02] <pupil> m477, I have to plug in my ethernet connection,. lolo
[03:02] <m477> sudo ifup eth1
[03:02] <m477> once its plugged in, lol
[03:02] <pupil> lol
[03:02] <pupil> brb
[03:02] <loli`> hmm
[03:02] <pupil> only one connection
[03:02] <pschulz01> Anyone know where i can find the 'gnome-fs-home' icon?
[03:02] <Blair> anyone know of a way to submit information for the ubuntu device database if there's no network installed on the machine running ubuntu
[03:02] <loli`> Did anyone ever answer my question? I was away from the keyboard...
[03:02] <m477> brb, phone
[03:02] <shuddertrix_> raingrove: Haven't expirenced that problem.
[03:02] <alpha232> ok so lets try this again... Anyone here using Mplayer? It freezes when i load an mpeg file, i have to xkill it.
[03:03] <Stricklin> Suggestions for blog/PHP/MySQL authoring IDE?
[03:03] <Blair> actually...is there a version of the device database tool that will run past the network detection properly? because this one hangs there...
[03:03] <loli`> alpha232
[03:03] <raingrove> shuddertrix_, it doesnt happen with OSS...
[03:03] <foxiness> how can i reconfing package with apt-get ?
[03:03] <raingrove> shuddertrix_, hmm.. i get that latency problem when i play OpenTTd.
[03:03] <loli`> alpha232, it's not Mplayer's fault. It's the codec you're using.
[03:03] <foxiness> ubotu, !grub
[03:03] <ubotu> foxiness: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:03] <dazvid> !grub
[03:03] <ubotu> [grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:03] <Blair> ubotu, was you ever bit by a dead bee?
[03:03] <ubotu> Blair: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:04] <loli`> i'd like to ride on a windmill's fans one day
[03:04] <Toma-> foxiness: you dont. you use dpkg-reconfigure
[03:04] <alpha232> loli`, well its the codec included with the package... so...
[03:04] <Blair> that'd be one big dead bee
[03:04] <zoexii> hello, I am installing Breezy from cd onto a big hard disk (160 Gig).  I want to have a FAT partition with which to share files between linux and Windows where I plan to store my music movies and photos.  The partitioning tool that comes with the installer is confusing, and it has already skipped the set up partition step and is copying files.  I am afraid to bother it now, but I have heard about resizing partitions and adding more.  How can I
[03:04] <zoexii>  do this?
[03:04] <Blair> k...got too many req's to review to be doing this anyway...later
[03:04] <loli`> Is it a new install?
[03:05] <m477> back
[03:05] <zoexii> loli, yes,
[03:05] <foxiness> Toma-, is this will fix the uncorrect argment on menu.lst what grub use ?
[03:05] <protokol> !tell restricted
[03:05] <Toma-> foxiness: id say so
[03:05] <loli`> zoexii, gogle fdisk
[03:05] <protokol> ok, i wanna get java/w32codecs/etc
[03:05] <MEEEs> ?
[03:06] <protokol> how do i make the bot work
[03:06] <frank23> zoexii: you can make the partitions with the installer.
[03:06] <Toma-> foxiness: yes
[03:06] <shad0w1e> smbd is now called samba.... what was nmbd renamed to??
[03:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell protokol about w32deb
[03:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell protokol about javadeb
[03:06] <frank23> zoexii: in setup partitions manually or something
[03:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell protokol about yourself
[03:07] <MEEEs> dabaR: in your opion which is better gftp of ftp or are they the same - the gui
[03:07] <ebex> tell me too
[03:07] <zoexii> frank23, yeah, but the installer has already moved on... Is there a quick way to resize and add a new partition?
[03:08] <zoexii> after it is done.
[03:08] <foxiness> Toma-, now how-to can i tell grub to rebluid the menu.lst again to see it correct or not ?
[03:08] <frank23> zoexii: um yeah,  qparted can do that
[03:08] <foxiness> Toma-, is it $ sudo update-grub
[03:08] <shad0w1e> help! there's no nmbd anymore in breezy!
[03:08] <pupil> m477, I did sudo ifup eth0 once plugged in.. response : Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eht0
[03:08] <shad0w1e> Im assuming its name was changed
[03:08] <shad0w1e> but to what?
[03:08] <pupil> I did eth1 as well.,
[03:09] <pupil> since I modprobed., should I restart machine?
[03:09] <zoexii> frank23, doesn't that only work on volumes that are unmounted?
[03:09] <pupil> with connection in?
[03:09] <frank23> zoexii: yes....
[03:09] <zoexii> frank23, I'm going to need a second install then
[03:09] <dabaR> Actually I have the option in my grub, but I was booting with another grub(another install on this computer...) THe font is uglier with this kernel I cant read sh*t.
[03:09] <frank23> zoexii: or use a live cd
[03:10] <frank23> zoexii: or just reinstall and use the installer
[03:10] <zoexii> frank23, which one?
[03:10] <dabaR> so now, I still dont have usplash working. Where do I add that? to the grub boot entry?
[03:10] <frank23> zoexii: not sure...
[03:10] <_john> how do you edit the margins in OpenOffice2?
[03:11] <_john> like lets say i want to make them larger, where do i go for that?
[03:11] <kwilcox> After upgrading to Breezy I get a "Line in login configuration file problem blah blah".. anyone know which file the login config is?
[03:11] <_john> oh nevermind, i found it
[03:12] <loli`> I think maybe running linux has had some sort of profound impact on my cable modem.
[03:12] <loli`> When I used Windows XP Pro, at the very most, I could sustain 200KB/s
[03:12] <theconartist> loli`, you think wrong then
[03:12] <dabaR> kwilcox: I do not. What gives you that error, what program?
[03:12] <zoexii> frank23, are gparted and gnuparted the same thing?
[03:12] <loli`> I know it's not possible.
[03:12] <loli`> But I'm downloading twice as fast now.
[03:13] <Vanish> Can anybody help me on getting sound on Amarok?
[03:13] <nalioth> zoexii: parted is a console program, qt- and g- are frontends to it
[03:13] <dazvid> !grub
[03:13] <ubotu> methinks grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:13] <loli`> Vanish, turn on your speakers.
[03:13] <dazvid> woops
[03:13] <kwilcox> dabar: The default login screen comes up and says it can't load my login configuration
[03:13] <dazvid> Quick question, whats the file name for the C libraries?
[03:13] <Vanish> Speakers are on
[03:13] <loli`> dazvid, what are you looking for?
[03:14] <dazvid> I need the C libraries to compile code
[03:14] <dabaR> kwilcox: you boot, get to the Ubuntu login screen, where it says session, reboot, shut down and that, and then it just by itself show you that text?
[03:14] <frank23> zoexii: yeah there is parted, gparted and qparted are frontends to parted
[03:14] <kbrooks> frank23: the library
[03:14] <kbrooks> ;)
[03:14] <kwilcox> dabar: yeah in a box with option "OK"
[03:14] <dazvid> atm, when I use gcc it says it doesnt know what the files and functions are and such.
[03:15] <kbrooks> !gcc
[03:15] <ubotu> from memory, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.
[03:15] <kbrooks> !build-essential
[03:15] <ubotu> kbrooks: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:15] <dazvid> no i have gcc, i need the libraries
[03:15] <kwilcox> dabar: It says to check my login configuration
[03:15] <zoexii> nalioth, frank23, thanks, and is it possible to talk to 2 people at once?  how exactly does the red highlited text work,
[03:15] <v0idx5> anyone here was able to get the alps touchpad working with all the features (especially corner taps for right and middle click?)
[03:15] <dazvid> !essential
[03:15] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, dazvid
[03:15] <dazvid> !buildessential
[03:15] <foxiness> Toma-, thanks and im fix this by hand again "sudo vi /pathto/menu.lst"
[03:15] <ubotu> dazvid: Are you smoking crack?
[03:15] <dabaR> kwilcox: and it is a problem? what does it do? not let you log in?
[03:15] <Denski> where can i download breezy?
[03:16] <kbrooks> dazvid: apt-get install build-essential
[03:16] <dazvid> kk
[03:16] <dazvid> thanks
[03:16] <raingrove> artsd vs esound ? what's better?
[03:16] <dabaR> Denski: www.ubuntu.com
[03:16] <nalioth> zoexii: whenver someone says your nick, your client alerts you
[03:16] <kwilcox> dabar: it shows a default login screen, not the Ubuntu one or custom one... I can't change the look of it
[03:16] <Denski> dabaR: thanks!
[03:16] <cycom> hey, anyone get an openmosix cluster of ubuntu working?
[03:17] <zoexii> nalioth, so it doesn't matter where within the message the nick appears?  it doesn't have to be at the beginning?
[03:17] <bimberi> no, it can be anywhere zoexii :)
[03:17] <zoexii> amazing.
[03:17] <dabaR> kwilcox: ah. The X login screen, hm. Well, can you log into a terminal, and try typing in sudo invoke-rc.d xdm stop, then sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start? It will log you out of the GUI if you are logged in.
[03:17] <nalioth> zoexii: depends on the client
[03:17] <zoexii> ha bimberi ha.
[03:17] <Razor-X> what's the command to quit twm?
[03:17] <bimberi> :)
[03:18] <pschulz01> Found the problem... need to 'reset' the theme, via the Theme Preferences.
[03:18] <dabaR> Razor-X: yo umean log out of it?
[03:18] <Razor-X> dabaR: yeah
[03:18] <Razor-X> dabaR: or at least, close twm
[03:18] <Razor-X> dabaR: I ran it as a tmpwm is ratpoison
[03:18] <dabaR> you could restart gdm, if that is how you logged in...
[03:18] <Razor-X> no, that quits ratpoison also
[03:19] <Razor-X> (as I just found out)
[03:19] <dabaR> heh
[03:19] <Razor-X> good thing most of my work is in a screen session :P
[03:19] <dabaR> well, you should save your work frequently anyhow.
[03:19] <kwilcox> dabar: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/xdm not found
[03:19] <n0odl3> how do i switch back to gnome?
[03:19] <n0odl3> from kde?
[03:20] <lwells> I can change the list file to upgrade to 5.10 right?
[03:20] <Razor-X> dabaR: my IRC channels, no pressing work actually being done
[03:20] <lwells> The source.list file i mean
[03:20] <dabaR> kwilcox: I dont know what you could do. YOu can try deleting your /tmp/* using sudo, but I do not know whether that will help. That is what I always do with login issues.
[03:20] <bimberi> lwells: yes - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:20] <Razor-X> dabaR: I don't experiment while doing work, all my experimentation is done when i'm not working so as not to jeopardize my work
[03:20] <dabaR> Razor-X: you should save your irc sessions too X)
[03:21] <Razor-X> dabaR: ?
[03:21] <dabaR> jj.
[03:21] <Razor-X> my IRC sessions get logged
[03:21] <dabaR> hah, even that!
[03:21] <Razor-X> (and I must have, at the very least, 200 MB of logs of this channel alone)
[03:21] <lwells> and it is better to upgrade from ubuntu then kubuntu?
[03:22] <dabaR> Im out.
[03:22] <bimberi> lwells: no difference afaik
[03:22] <lwells> i tried installing kubuntu 5.10 fresh install, it was a mess
[03:22] <Rev-Marc> where can I get info on setting up for incoming VPN connections and connecting to a VPN?
[03:23] <apokryphos> lwells: because your wifi didn't work? oO
[03:23] <lwells> yep,how did you know
[03:23] <apokryphos> hardly qualifies it as "being a mess"
[03:23] <lwells> ok, little mess
[03:24] <apokryphos> or not a mess at all; most likely you're not setting it up correctly
[03:24] <lwells> no way, i never make mistakes
[03:24] !lilo:*! Small split, users affected: 64
[03:24] <bimberi> wow
[03:24] <lwells> i was kidding of course
[03:24] <dazvid> lol obviously some sarcasm :P
[03:24] <dazvid> yeh
[03:24] <bimberi> heh
[03:24] <Razor-X> so, anyone know how to quit twm?
[03:25] <Razor-X> or, what's another light window manager I can use for just running, say, one application?
[03:25] <lwells> heck, that is how i learn almost anything, by screwing it up first
[03:26] <hosler> !tell me about nvidia
[03:26] <dazvid> oh, does anyone know why I cant push my eject button on the actual CD drive but I can right click and eject?
[03:26] <Rev-Marc> where can I get info on setting up for incoming VPN connections and connecting to a VPN?
[03:26] <Brunellus> dazvid:  because the button won't eject until you unmount the volume
[03:26] <dazvid> ah ok
[03:26] <dazvid> Anyway I can script it up so that it unmounts when I press the button?
[03:27] <Brunellus> good question.
[03:27] <dazvid> lol its probably more hassle than its worth
[03:27] <hosler> Can someone help? Im having trouble getting my nvidia driver to work correctly. I first used nvidia-glx, and when that didnt work I tried downloading the binaries, but still no luck.
[03:27] <dazvid> !nvidia
[03:27] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:27] <dazvid> that didnt work?
[03:29] <hosler> ok thanks
[03:29] <dazvid> What card do you have hosler?
[03:30] <Niggpie> Would someone mind taking a look at my wpa_supplicant.conf output to assist in troubleshooting a failing wireless connection? I will paste in a query window once given the green light. Thanks
[03:30] <kwilcox> "Configuration file is not correct" on the ubuntu login screen,  Which file is this refering to?
[03:31] <phasegen> where would a person look if they wanted dvd movie support for breezy?
[03:31] <fadumpt> mplayer howto
[03:31] <Rev-Marc> where can I get info on setting up for incoming VPN connections and connecting to a VPN?
[03:32] <thirso> !VPN
[03:32] <ubotu> thirso: What?
[03:34] <sizzam> how can i find the mac address for my nic?  im trying to reserve an IP on my router, but my host name wont show up, just says "UNKNOWN NAME"
[03:35] <kwilcox> sizzam: sudo ifconfig
[03:35] <kwilcox> HWaddr
[03:35] <sizzam> kwilcox: thanks
[03:36] <sambagirl> hello, i just switched from gnome to kde. i see the littel life holder on top still sayiing gnome is that normal?
[03:36] <Rev-Marc> !VPN
[03:36] <ubotu> Rev-Marc: I don't know
[03:37] <Rev-Marc> hahaha
[03:38] <kbrooks> sambagirl?
[03:38] <bjron> does anyone know what happened to the "clear search history" option in the right-click context menu for the google search bar in firefox?  Was there in Hoary, not so in Breezy. . .
[03:38] <kbrooks> thought u were gonna reinstall win32?
[03:39] <loli`> What's a life holder?
[03:39] <kbrooks> loli`: help
[03:39] <kbrooks> resue
[03:39] <kbrooks> etc
[03:39] <kbrooks> rescue
[03:39] <loli`> kbrooks,  huh?
[03:39] <sambagirl> i just did change form gnome desktop environment to kde desktop environment. should the gnome donut still be on top? or not?
[03:39] <kbrooks> loli`: thats a life preserver
[03:39] <loli`> oh!
[03:39] <loli`> I never used it.
[03:39] <kwilcox> Thats the Help icon
[03:40] <kbrooks> loli`: help icon
[03:40] <loli`> samba, if you don't like it, you can change it manually.
[03:40] <sancho> bjorn:  i never knew that was there.  but you can do edit > preferences > privacy > clear
[03:40] <sambagirl> jolly joker
[03:40] <sambagirl> thank you kbrooks and kwlcox for your helping and :p to loli
[03:41] <bjron> sancho, that's way more clicks than I want. Anyway I'm more interested in being able to clear the field quickly, the actual history is fine (
[03:41] <loli`> I'm not much help to anyone. ^_^
[03:41] <sancho> i hate fox.  showing lame ass baseball instead of family guy.
[03:41] <loli`> Indeed! There should be a Family Guy Network!
[03:42] <kwilcox> they are not new episodes until Nov. 4
[03:42] <sambagirl> baseball been very very good to me :D
[03:42] <sancho> really?  nov.
[03:42] <loli`> Who's playing sancho?
[03:42] <sancho> that just plain sucks
[03:42] <kwilcox> yeah they only made 6 new ones, and there have been 6 already
[03:42] <sancho> don't know.  don't care.  just know its not FG.
[03:42] <loli`> :<
[03:42] <sancho> sorry cafuego
[03:42] <kwilcox> its the Angels and Whitesox... ALCS
[03:43] <shuddertrix_> Any channel staff in here that I can talk to?
[03:43] <cafuego_> shuddertrix_: There are always some, the question is whether they're awake.
[03:43] <Razor-X> hmmmm
[03:44] <Razor-X> cafuego_: do you know how to quit twm?
[03:44] <shuddertrix_> Then is any awake? :P
[03:44] <kbrooks> shuddertrix_: why do you need them
[03:44] <cafuego_> shuddertrix_: if there's a genuine problem, you can use the '!ops' command to try and wake them.
[03:44] <shuddertrix_> !ops
[03:44] <ubotu> hmm... ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[03:44] <apokryphos> shuddertrix_: hm?
[03:45] <cafuego_> Razor-X: nalioth: shuddertrix_is in need of help from an op.
[03:45] <Razor-X> I found a much more elegant way of quitting twm
[03:45] <Razor-X> ``killall twm'' :P
[03:45] <cafuego_> Razor-X: <heh>
[03:45] <nalioth> cafuego_: yes, shuddertrix_ is a tor user
[03:45] <cafuego_> Oh, apokryphos is awake too.
[03:45] <kbrooks> nalioth: tor user?'
[03:45] <Razor-X> cafuego_: i'm an op?
[03:46] <nalioth> Razor-X: you've missed the meetings, dude
[03:46] <cafuego_> Razor-X: yes, I promoted you.
[03:46] <Razor-X> nalioth: don't have any time whatsoever, save maybe a few hours on the weekends
[03:46] <nalioth> shuddertrix_: how may we help you? obviously you have made it in
[03:46] <Razor-X> but I do what I can on weekends
[03:46] <Niggpie> Would someone mind taking a look at my wpa_supplicant.conf output to assist in troubleshooting a failing wireless connection? I will paste in a query window once given the green light. Thanks
[03:46] <nalioth> nasty cable company is up to it's usual tricks
[03:47] <Razor-X> shuddertrix_: well, since i'm an op..... shoot :P
[03:47] <lips> please, link breezy upgrade wiki, cant find it
[03:47] <shuddertrix_> I want to know why Tor users are banned..
[03:47] <Razor-X> cafuego_: thanks a lot :P
[03:48] <nalioth> shuddertrix_: b/c there have been several users of anonymity who've come in here and disrupted the channel highly
[03:48] <cafuego_> shuddertrix_: 98% of tor users in this channel use it to spam and troll.
[03:48] <shuddertrix_> Now, how hard was that?
[03:48] <cafuego_> shuddertrix_: if people need help, they can just run an irc client and don't need tor.
[03:49] <richard_> i need the repository that has jre in it
[03:49] <Razor-X> shuddertrix_: or, if you really need to use it anonymously, try something like JAP, or use a proxy server
[03:49] <richard_> can someone help me
[03:49] <cafuego_> !tell richard_ about java
[03:49] <frank23> richard_: well 1.4 is in multiverse
[03:49] <richard_> no it isnt
[03:49] <ducky_> I have two monitors and on the intallation it only found one monitor.  How can I probe for the second monitor so I can have the stettings for xorg.conf.
[03:49] <richard_> its not there
[03:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell richard_ about javadeb
[03:49] <cafuego_> shuddertrix_: If people shouldn't see youyr hostmask, ask the opers for a cloak.
[03:50] <kwilcox> ducky_: edit your xorg.conf file
[03:50] <shuddertrix_> I've been asking for an hour now, and i've finally got an answer after using a command that I wasn't supposed to use anyways...
[03:50] <richard_> ! tell richard_ about javadeb
[03:50] <cafuego_> richard_: it is on i386 and amd64. If you're on PPC, you need to downlaod the IBM one.
[03:50] <ubotu> Not a clue, richard_
[03:50] <frank23> richard_: blackdown java 1.4 is in multiverse
[03:50] <ducky_> kwilcox, right but if I don't know the vertical and horizotal sync how do I get those?
[03:50] <richard_> is that the same as regular java
[03:50] <kwilcox> ducky_: LCD?
[03:50] <kevogod> richard_, Yea
[03:50] <apokryphos> shuddertrix_: you didn't get an answer by using the command at all
[03:50] <ducky_> kwilcox, CRT
[03:51] <ducky_> kwilcox, it found my LCD
[03:51] <cafuego_> shuddertrix_: Amazing though it may seem, most people don't scan every question in here, they are often AFK and may miss your question altogether ;-)
[03:52] <nalioth> richard_: look to your private messages
[03:52] <kwilcox> ducky_: are you farmiliar with Xinerama?
[03:52] <dazvid> Has anyone here installed Steam successfully?
[03:52] <ducky_> kwilcox: no, but I have twinview working
[03:53] <frank23> dazvid: 	 heard the latest steam update doesn't work in cedega, I don't know if they fixed it
[03:53] <ducky_> kwilcox, I just want to increase the resolution of my other monitor
[03:53] <sunguy> help!
[03:53] <dazvid> Yeh there was another cedega release
[03:53] <frank23> How did I do italics?
[03:53] <sunguy> My xine hue/brightness is screwed up, and the controls don't seem to make any difference!
[03:53] <dooglus> I'm trying to run 'xterm' inside a dchroot, but it's not working, saying "Reason: get_pty: not enough ptys".  Do I need to install udev in the chroot?
[03:54] <dazvid> frank23, It didnt look italics to me :/
[03:54] <frank23> dazvid: ok...
[03:54] <pupil> m477, ok,. where was I,. what did you say I had to modprobe for,. net2k-pci?
[03:54] <sunguy> Anyone know about this?  Is it a common issue?
[03:54] <sunguy> My xine hue/brightness is screwed up, and the controls don't seem to make any difference!
[03:54] <dazvid> frank23, have you previously installed steam on ubuntu?
[03:54] <frank23> dazvid: no
[03:54] <james_> how do I change my wireless cards radio state?
[03:54] <pupil> For Realtek 8029 what is the module?
[03:54] <dazvid> frank23, ok no probs then
[03:55] <kwilcox> ducky_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3213
[03:55] <Razor-X> nalioth: ... so, i'm part of the channel access list for ops?
[03:55] <sunguy> I tried totem-gstreamer, but audio is out of sync when I use that.  Any way to fix that?
[03:55] <nalioth> Razor-X: idk what cafuego_ has done to you
[03:56] <Razor-X> cafuego_: ... so, i'm part of the channel access list for ops?
[03:56] <Razor-X> :P
[03:56] <pupil>  For Realtek 8029 network card, what is the module?
[03:56] <Razor-X> pupil: module for what?
[03:56] <pupil> net2k-pci
[03:56] <pupil> Realtek 8029
[03:56] <pupil> net-2kpci
[03:56] <pupil> I don't remember what it is
[03:57] <TigerWraith> can someone help me to install ubuntu?
[03:57] <Razor-X> TigerWraith: shoot
[03:57] <sunguy> Switching to ALSA fixed the audio sync issue.
[03:57] <TigerWraith> ive got the net install booted, but i keep getting a kernel panic
[03:58] <s43y7> hello.. is the information in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29 correct?
[03:58] <nalioth> TigerWraith: what hardware?
[03:58] <_native_> i have a problem compiling etherape.  ive put the output in the pastebin. this seems to be very common when compiling progs. yet while googling i have found no solution only many people having the same problem.
[03:58] <s43y7> ive tried it, and it dosnt work :(
[03:58] <Razor-X> TigerWraith: and what's the form of kernel panic?
[03:58] <nalioth> _native_: er, the URL to the pastebin?
[03:58] <TigerWraith> AMD 64 3200 veniece, Chaintech S1689 MB
[03:59] <TigerWraith> Kernel panic - not syncing : aiee, killing interrupt handler!
[03:59] <TiMiDo> brb
[03:59] <_native_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3214
[03:59] <Adyeths> I just installed Breezy and now I keep getting this message in my logs.....   Oct 16 21:58:35 localhost kernel: [4446210.189000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[03:59] <Adyeths> it seems to be related to the numlock key. anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[04:00] <erick> Guys I want to install my cd that came from my nokia phone,can I use this or install in my ubuntu machine
[04:00] <MikeW> Is Breezy faster and more responsive than Warty?
[04:00] <piedoggie> need pointer to how I can add a virtual ethernet interface in breezy
[04:00] <Phuzion> How can I have Windows and Ubuntu co-reside on the same machine, but different hard drives?
[04:00] <frontier> hi guys, just installed breezy and am having issues with my net con :(
[04:00] <_native_> i have libglade2.0 installed so how do i fix the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable? i assume the standard export *foo=*foo
[04:00] <Phuzion> Ubuntu is currently the master drive
[04:01] <erick> piedoggie try to edit the /etc/networking/interfaces
[04:01] <dazvid> Phuzion, you need to install "Grub" to dual boot
[04:01] <kbrooks> Phuzion: switch drives
[04:01] <cyphase> would a firewall prevent me from sniffing a network?
[04:01] <dazvid> !tell Phuzion about grub
[04:01] <pupil> After I modprobe and find my network card,. how do I get it up and running?
[04:01] <TurdFerguson> Hi there, I'm having problems with my keyboard since I've upgraded to Breezy.  These have stopped working.  Windows Key, Menu Key, and Cntrl+Alt+FunctionKey to change to a terminal.  Any ideas?
[04:01] <bimberi> Louis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:01] <pupil> on dhcp?
[04:01] <Louis> thanks
[04:01] <_native_> if the firewall is configured to do so.
[04:01] <Phuzion> dazvid, I have it, I just don't know to configure it.
[04:01] <dazvid> ah ok
[04:01] <bimberi> Louis: yw :)
[04:01] <dazvid> What file system is ubuntu on?
[04:02] <piedoggie> erik:  do I use the etho:X nomenclature?
[04:02] <Phuzion> ext2, I believe
[04:02] <pupil> ext3
[04:02] <erick> yes
[04:02] <cyphase> there are multiple choices
[04:02] <Phuzion> Yeah, it's ext2
[04:02] <cyphase> resiserfs, resiser4, ext2, ext3, xfs...
[04:02] <piedoggie> will it get nuked if I do anything via the gui?
[04:02] <dazvid> I cant remember where the grub config file is -_-
[04:02] <bimberi> dazvid: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:02] <dazvid> Phuzion, try that file ^
[04:03] <erick> Imnot sure but in gui thers no option to install another ip
[04:03] <pupil> Can anyone point me to a howto that tells me how to get my network card up after modprobe?
[04:03] <TigerWraith> so guys any idea whats causing the panic?
[04:03] <Phuzion> Alright, thanks.
[04:03] <piedoggie> so I noticed.
[04:03] <Razor-X> TigerWraith: is the latter your NIC?
[04:03] <Phuzion> What would I have to change to it in order to get it to find Windows on my other HD though?
[04:03] <TigerWraith> no the latter is my Motherboard
[04:03] <Razor-X> TigerWraith: meh, sorry, I couldn't find your name while scrolling up, and couldn't ask you it
[04:03] <bimberi> Phuzion: This might help too - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[04:03] <Razor-X> TigerWraith: what's the name of your NIC? and what's the process you've used so far to try and netboot
[04:03] <erick> piedoggie its better to edit that file of if you want a temporay virtual ip try to use the ifconfig cmd
[04:03] <_native_> cyphase: some icmp traffic is used for probing but sniffing mostly has to do with putting the interface into promisc mode
[04:04] <piedoggie> na, it is a perm thing
[04:04] <ebaad> hi all
[04:04] <Drone4four> do .deb install packages work with Ubuntu linux?
[04:04] <pupil> Phuzion, what is yor hardrive configuration,. how many hardrives., how many partitions?
[04:04] <TigerWraith> thet nic is onboard its chipset is Uli M5263
[04:04] <ebaad> I'm trying to install the Real player on UBUNTU
[04:04] <piedoggie> it is amaizing how every distribution has its own way of handling ethernet
[04:04] <ebaad> need some help
[04:05] <dazvid> PHZN`away, at the bottom of the menu.lst file, you can add in "Other operating systems"
[04:05] <_native_> and its amazing the lack of standards
[04:05] <ebaad> hello
[04:05] <TigerWraith> so far what ive done is burn the iso and boot with it then hit enter
[04:05] <Drone4four> ebaad, you're new, aren't you?
[04:05] <ebaad> how can I check what version i'm running
[04:05] <Drone4four> just a sec
[04:05] <ebaad> yes
[04:05] <ebaad> fresh from the oven
[04:05] <pupil> ebaad, how the heck are pelople supposed to know what your problem is if you don't ask
[04:05] <erick> piedoggie yeah, in redhat theres a gui way of doing that but in ubuntu I dont think it is possible, base on my 5 days of experience in handling ubuntu
[04:05] <ebaad> yes sir
[04:05] <ebaad> thats why I'm asking
[04:06] <tritium> erick, yes there is
[04:06] <ebaad> that how can I install rp on ubuntu
[04:06] <Razor-X> TigerWraith: how were you planning to netboot with the CD?
[04:06] <pupil> ebaad, uname -r
[04:06] <erick> piedoggie but tritium how?
[04:06] <pupil> uname -a
[04:06] <Drone4four> ebaad, http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[04:06] <tritium> erick, System->Administration->Networking
[04:06] <Drone4four> read carefully that entire webpage
[04:06] <richard_> what do you type into terminal to configure your dvd player
[04:06] <MikeW> PHZN`away: are you marty?
[04:06] <tomax> hello
[04:06] <TigerWraith> well i was going to let ubuntu do the basic install then go from there
[04:06] <ebaad> thanks much
[04:06] <Drone4four> =D np
[04:07] <richard_> i think it is hdparm -d 1 dev/hda
[04:07] <tomax> I need help on speeding up the boot process of Breezy.
[04:07] <ebaad> i will read thru it and will get back with any questions
[04:07] <richard_> but i dont know
[04:07] <PHZN`away> pupil, how much information do you want about my system, just partition info?
[04:07] <Razor-X> TigerWraith: mmmkay, so there's no real point is there for a netinstall, is there? :P
[04:07] <ebaad> I know I can always count on you guys for help
[04:07] <Drone4four> ebaad, as i see linux, it's all about conducting an investigation on the internet just to get the sound working
[04:07] <pupil> PHZN`away, all I wanna know is,. if you have more than 1 hardrive,. and which one has windows on it
[04:07] <Razor-X> TigerWraith: .... moving on, this happens right after the CD boots?
[04:07] <PHZN`away> I have 2 hard drives, both with only one partition, both on the primary IDE channel.
[04:07] <TigerWraith> sorry im just using the same lingo from the other distros ive tried to install
[04:07] <tritium> ebaad, you'll find the Ubuntu 5.10 Started Guide to be good reading too.  (can be found in the gnome help system)
[04:07] <TigerWraith> this is right after i hit enter
[04:07] <pupil> PHZN`away, or which one do you wanna put windows on.
[04:08] <Razor-X> TigerWraith: mmmkay....
[04:08] <tomax> it takes a look time for LILO to scan (or whatever it is doing) until it finally displays "BIOS data check complete" and proceeds
[04:08] <Razor-X> TigerWraith: a desktop, I imagine?
[04:08] <TurdFerguson> Hi there, I'm having problems with my keyboard since I've upgraded to Breezy.  These have stopped working: Windows Key, Menu Key, and Cntrl+Alt+FunctionKey to change to a terminal.  Any ideas?
[04:08] <PHZN`away> I have the Windows on a 12GB HD, and Ubuntu on a 6.1
[04:09] <TigerWraith> Razor-X: its a custom built machine
[04:09] <pupil> PHZN`away, ok good
[04:09] <Razor-X> TurdFerguson: did you read the note ubotu told you?
[04:09] <pupil> PHZN`away, which one is slave., which one is on master?
[04:09] <PHZN`away> TurdFerguson, maybe your drivers were lost or corrupted for your keyboard while updating, did you ever have to install custom drivers for it?
[04:09] <Razor-X> TigerWraith: ahhh, excellent, you should know all of your components
[04:09] <PHZN`away> slave is the Windows one.
[04:09] <TigerWraith> Razor-X: yes i do
[04:09] <adil> hi
[04:09] <PHZN`away> pupil, Windows is on the slave drive
[04:09] <erick> tripiedoggie
[04:10] <Razor-X> TigerWraith: have you MD5SUM'd the cd to see if it's corrupt?
[04:10] <erick> piedoggie any progress
[04:10] <ethy> How do I test whether if my DirectDraw is working properly?
[04:10] <TigerWraith> no i havent,
[04:10] <pupil>  PHZN`away are you in linux right now?
[04:10] <Razor-X> TigerWraith: you should try that, or insert the disk into another machine
[04:10] <TurdFerguson> Sorry.  I can't find ubotu's note.  My keyboard is a standard US keyboard.  I've never installed special drivers
[04:10] <nalioth> _native_: did you get my msg?
[04:10] <PHZN`away> No it's a different PC that I'm on, but I can go run to it, what for?
[04:10] <_native_> no
[04:11] <_native_> nada
[04:11] <Razor-X> TurdFerguson: my bad, I misread the note
[04:11] <pupil> PHZN`away, well,. if you were on linux,. I could tell you how to set up the boot.. so you have choices of booting either OS.
[04:11] <nalioth> _native_: install those pkgs the error msg says you are missing (make sure they have -dev on the end)
[04:11] <_native_> i have them installed
[04:11] <PHZN`away> Alright give me a second, I'll get connected on that machine.
[04:11] <pupil> PHZN`away, also.,, you could use qemu., and install windows on that,.
[04:11] <_native_> so do i need libglade2.0-dev
[04:11] <PHZN`away> I just have to get my switch turned on, and plug the ethernet in, brb
[04:11] <pupil> PHZN`away, qemu is like vmware
[04:11] <_native_> i just have the plain libs
[04:12] <_native_> ok
[04:12] <PHZN`away> pupil, I'll be right back
[04:12] <pupil> ok
[04:12] <erick> tritium how to add virtual ip in GUI
[04:12] <bodhidharma> Hello: I just dist-upgraded to breezy, and I am getting a file conflict between python-wxgtk2.4 python-wxversion, affects installation of bittorent-gui and bittornado-gui
[04:12] <pupil> ok., time for someone to help me,. its all about ME
[04:12] <pupil> :)
[04:12] <bodhidharma> is this known?
[04:12] <_native_> thanks thats what i thought it was but the output did not mention -dev libs so....
[04:12] <_native_> ;-] 
[04:13] <pupil> so,. after I modprobe my network card and it finds it., what is the next step in setting up my network card on dhcp.. or should tht be it?
[04:14] <lips> i want to make apt-get dist-upgrade, but don't know what parameter should i set to make it two fold: download overnight today, and install overnight tomorrow...
[04:14] <lips> any help?
[04:14] <lou_> Hi all, I'm getting the following error when i try to apt-get update: W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[04:14] <bodhidharma> is this the wrong place to ask about "universe" bugs?
[04:14] <lou_> can anyone help me out here?
[04:15] <nalioth> lips: you can usse the apt-get flag to 'download only' (type "apt-get --help" to see it
[04:15] <pupil> frontier, thing is,. i put in a wireless card while installing,.. it didnt get detected,. so I shutdown,. put in regular nic card,. and started back up again,. now I'm trying to set it up from a server install,.
[04:15] <nalioth> lou_: disregard it, it's a known harmless problem that'll sort itself
[04:15] <pupil> frontier, I did modprobe., found the card,. now I need to setup dhcp on it
[04:15] <pupil> frontier, If there was a howto I'd be good to go,.
[04:15] <frontieruk> ouch, and I was bothered by the fact I can't get more than 31Kbp/s upload from my cards
[04:16] <PHZN`away> pupil, give me a minute, my machine needs to reboot to enable my ethernet card.
[04:16] <pupil> Phuzion, no
[04:16] <pupil> Phuzion, you don't have to reboot
[04:16] <pupil> Phuzion, which OS are you talking about?
[04:16] <cyphase> does anyone know why i might not be able to sniff a network anymore?
[04:16] <ethy> How do I test if my DirectDraw is working properly?
[04:16] <Phuzion> Ubuntu
[04:16] <Phuzion> I already told it to reboot.
[04:16] <cyphase> in hoary, it worked fine
[04:16] <bodhidharma> are there any mods who can direct me to the right place?
[04:17] <pupil> Phuzion, no probs
[04:17] <cyphase> in breezy, it only shows packets from/to me
[04:17] <bimberi> lou_: this cleared a similar error (on breezy-updates) for me - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=413710&postcount=2
[04:17] <Phuzion> My machine is slow, so I don't like wasting time going through and enabling and disabling stuff manually, so I just reboot when I need to connect to the internet.
[04:17] <cafuego_> bodhidharma: You can always file a bugreport
[04:17] <lips> nalioth thanks (its apt-get -d :-)))
[04:17] <pupil> Can anyone direct me to a how to for setting up network from modprob nic card?
[04:17] <frank23> in debian, what is more stable: unstable or testing?
[04:17] <bimberi> frank23: testing
[04:18] <cafuego_> frank23: unstable. hence the name.
[04:18] <Amaranth> testing
[04:18] <cafuego_> frank23: uh, testing :-)
[04:18] <frank23> umm....
[04:18] <frank23> ok
[04:18] <wotnarg> checking for working compiler:  error executing gcc < I get this from a configure script, and I have gcc installed. Am I missing something?
[04:18] <Amaranth> something has to generally work for 2 weeks in unstable before it goes to testing
[04:18] <bodhidharma> cafuego, I've looked, there are two, bugzilla.ubuntu.com, launchpad.ubuntu.com
[04:18] <pupil> Phuzion, would have been easeir to simply  " sudo ifconfig eth0 down then up
[04:18] <cafuego_> wotnarg: less configure.log
[04:18] <TigerWraith> Razor-X: ok this might seem like a stuipd question, but how do i check the checksum
[04:18] <lou_> Hey all, i'm trying to install realplayer, but am getting the following error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:18] <lou_>   realplayer: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[04:18] <cafuego_> bodhidharma: use bugzilla (I think)
[04:18] <Phuzion> pupil, I'll take note of that.
[04:19] <bodhidharma> ok, thanks
[04:19] <pupil> Phuzion, been using linux for 4 days,. don't take any notes
[04:19] <pupil> lol
[04:19] <pupil> maybe 5
[04:19] <cafuego_> lou_: Yes, you're trying to sue a debian package on Ubuntu.
[04:19] <Phuzion> pupil, I use it maybe once or twice a week.
[04:19] <cafuego_> lou_: 'sudo apt-get install helix-player'
[04:19] <lou_> cafuego, what should i do instead
[04:19] <lou_> ok cool thanks.
[04:19] <wotnarg> /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[04:19] <wotnarg> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[04:19] <Phuzion> Partly because of my lack of a machine that runs it well.
[04:19] <Phuzion> brb
[04:19] <wotnarg> cafuego: thats the contents.
[04:20] <lyssa> hey
[04:20] <lou_> cafuego, i was just going on what the wiki told me here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:20] <cafuego_> wotnarg: Ergo, you're missing stuff. Either don't compile and sue precompiled software, or find out what package crt1.o is in and install it.
[04:20] <thewayofzen> is anyone aware of a repo i could use to grab a newer build of blackbox .. the current one in the repos (0.70.0-4) hasnt had the sunken bevel bugs ironned out of it.  and compiling it from cvs wouldnt recognize font size or antialiasing even when the flags were used with the ./configure
[04:20] <Niggpie> I'm having trouble configuring my WPA_supplicant.conf file. Can someone please give me a hand troubleshooting? It's pasted here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=418483#post418483
[04:20] <lyssa> i like volleyball
[04:21] <lyssa> WHATS UP??
[04:21] <GnarlyBob> your serve
[04:21] <cafuego_> lyssa: The sky.
[04:21] <man00> Hi, is anyone serving
[04:21] <lyssa> wtf mate?!?!
[04:21] <man00> !list
[04:21] <ubotu> list is, like, totally, you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:21] <frank23> cafuego_: will helix-player play everything realplater 10 plays?
[04:21] <cafuego_> man00: Go and fid warez somewhere else.
[04:22] <man00> Iam searching for a Ubuntu dist.
[04:22] <cafuego_> frank23: I don't know, neither are available for my arch.
[04:22] <man00> All the sites are slow
[04:22] <klay> hey having problems with totem
[04:22] <cafuego_> man00: www.ubuntu.com
[04:22] <man00> Yeah I know
[04:22] <klay> cant watch mpg
[04:22] <man00> its too slow
[04:22] <man00> thats y iam here
[04:22] <PHZNver2> pupil, live from Ubuntu
[04:22] <Razor-X> man00: what're you looking or in particular?
[04:22] <cafuego_> man00: Use bittorrent
[04:22] <cafuego_> man00: dcc is never going to be faster.
[04:22] <man00> I want AMD64
[04:22] <Psykus> i just upgraded gaim and some other packages, and now firefox has no text on the menu bars :|
[04:22] <klay> everyone douse
[04:22] <man00> distro
[04:22] <Razor-X> man00: yeah, DCC isn't going to be as fast as a torrent
[04:23] <klay> nice to have the extra processing power] 
[04:23] <Psykus> nor any text on the page either
[04:23] <lips> man00 right now i have transfer 250kB/s, thats not bad
[04:23] <klay> but just because you want one doesnt mean you deserve one
[04:23] <pupil> PHZNver2, so do you have both OS's installed on your puter?
[04:23] <man00> r u using Torrent
[04:24] <Razor-X> man00: I used torrent
[04:24] <klay> anyone have problems viewing prawn.mpg in totem
[04:24] <ecobuntu> are you guys familiar with gnomemeeting
[04:24] <Razor-X> man00: but not right now
[04:24] <PHZNver2> Yes, both are installed and present, however, when I go and mount the slave drive with Windows on it, it claims it can't be mounted for some odd reason.
[04:24] <pupil> PHZNver2, come to #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:24] <ecobuntu> do you know if i can chat with someone on a mac with gnomemeeting?
[04:24] <Razor-X> PHZNver2: what FS?
[04:24] <man00> Which server did u use, the canadian one sucks
[04:24] <ecobuntu> i am using the canadian server
[04:24] <PHZNver2> NTFS, I believe
[04:24] <ecobuntu> it seems to work ok
[04:24] <Razor-X> man00: torrents don't use servers
[04:24] <Vanish> Question on Amarok, I got sound to play but now some songs have static/distortion behind it, any ideas on my problem?
[04:24] <klay> kool guess im going to check the forums about watching prawn.mpg
[04:24] <PHZNver2> pupil, it gives me this message: mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:24] <Razor-X> PHZNver2: do you know the /dev directory under which it exists?
[04:24] <klay> going to bed now sorry folkz
[04:25] <cafuego_> Razor-X: Well, actually they do.
[04:25] <Razor-X> cafuego_: well, they use trackers, sure
[04:25] <pupil> PHZNver2, come ott #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:25] <man00> I was dloading from servers not using BT
[04:25] <cafuego_> Razor-X: No trackers, no download.
[04:25] <Razor-X> cafuego_: how does decentralized work?
[04:25] <Psykus> i just upgraded gaim and some other packages, and now mozilla firefox has no text anywhere...any clue on how I would fix this?
[04:25] <man00> Where do I find the Bit torrent link
[04:25] <Psykus> i've tried restarting gnome/X, no difference
[04:26] <lou_> Is there any way i can listen to windows media streams using ubuntu?
[04:26] <Razor-X> Psykus: have you tried reinstalling Firefox? you can export your profile so you won't lose anything
[04:26] <sn9> lou_: mplayer
[04:27] <Psykus> i'm using ubuntu 5.04, but told the package manager to download packages from breezy
[04:27] <Vanish> Any know how to fix distortion/static on amarok when listening to music?
[04:27] <wickedpuppy> Vanish, you keep hearing beeps ?
[04:27] <Psykus> hmm...how would i use apt-get/package manager to install only firefox? it's asking to upgrade like 100 other packages at the moment
[04:27] <cyphase> can someone please tell me how to make openoffice type in a CTL language?
[04:27] <ISOcrates> hey all.  what's the best irc program that you guys use?  i don't really like x-chat
[04:28] <TiMiDo> Psykus; it happends when you're system is not up to date
[04:28] <Razor-X> Psykus: maybe you should upgrade them all, if you want to go to Breezy
[04:28] <TurdFerguson> Hi there, I'm having problems with my keyboard since I've upgraded to Breezy.  These have stopped working: Windows Key, Menu Key, and Cntrl+Alt+FunctionKey to change to a terminal.  Is this an XServer problem or somewhere else?
[04:28] <Razor-X> ISOcrates: my own suggestion is to try them all
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> ISOcrates,  xchat, or irssi :P others pale in comparison.
[04:28] <Psykus> oh ok, this will take a while, i'm on dial-up :(
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> ISOcrates, if you hate x-chat , there are other clients
[04:28] <Razor-X> ISOcrates: everyone has their own person fobiles, their own personal tastes, and objectives
[04:28] <Psykus> i wish they would port mirc to linux, but oh well, xchat is the closest thing
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> try searching on synaptic
[04:28] <Razor-X> ISOcrates: I (personally) use erc in emacs, and like BitchX
[04:28] <TiMiDo> Psykus; leave it when you're a sleep
[04:28] <Razor-X> Psykus: ewwww!
[04:28] <Psykus> yeah
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> erc rox
[04:28] <Psykus> that's what I normally do
[04:29] <ISOcrates> ok cool.  can i get irssi though apt-get?
[04:29] <lou_> sn9 is there an easy way to install it? I get all sorts of uninstallable dependencies when i apt-get install mplayer.
[04:29] <Razor-X> ISOcrates: yeah you can, but be warned, it's not a GUI application
[04:29] <cyfer> hello all
[04:29] <sn9> ISOcrates: you can tell what everybody's using by typing /ctcp #ubuntu version
[04:29] <TiMiDo> hello cyfer
[04:29] <ISOcrates> nice
[04:29] <lou_> Hey all, is there a special way to install mplayer so i can stream wmv files?
[04:30] <TiMiDo> Razor-X; please dont do that
[04:30] <Psykus> hmm, how do I do a "smart upgrade" in synaptic?
[04:30] <TiMiDo> !tell lou_  about mplayer
[04:30] <cyfer> can any body tell me how to install cedega or wine ...search in synaptic return nothing
[04:30] <TiMiDo> cyfer;  you have to pay for cedega do sudo apt-get install wine
[04:30] <nalioth> Razor-X: what are you doing?
[04:30] <sn9> lou_: you need to tell apt-get which optimization of mplayer you want
[04:30] <Razor-X> nalioth: hmmmm?
[04:30] <nalioth> ISOcrates: irssi is already on your system
[04:30] <nalioth> Razor-X: why the channel version?
[04:30] <Razor-X> nalioth: crap... did I post something here?
[04:31] <Razor-X> nalioth: I just wanted to see, and i'ld stop if I could
[04:31] <Baxter_Kylie> Could anyone give a quick assist? What is the command to install a local (downloaded) .deb package?
[04:31] <AdmiralSenn> gah
[04:31] <TiMiDo> Razor-X; you just version, the channel
[04:31] <TiMiDo> ISOcrates;  stop that
[04:31] <nalioth> ISOcrates: please dont do that
[04:31] <AdmiralSenn> stop doing that!
[04:31] <ISOcrates> sorry!
[04:31] <cyfer> thanks for that but why its not in synaptic ???
[04:31] <bimberi> Baxter_Kylie: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[04:31] <TiMiDo> cyfer; do sudo apt-cache search wine
[04:31] <ISOcrates> you all saw that then?
[04:31] <nalioth> the next user that versions this channel, is goin out the door, it's VERY impolite
[04:31] <Razor-X> TiMiDo: once you give the command, it keeps returning output, I can't stop that
[04:31] <TiMiDo> ISOcrates; yes we did,
[04:31] <Baxter_Kylie> bimberi: Man thanks!
[04:32] <TiMiDo> Razor-X; then quit, and start again
[04:32] <ISOcrates> i had no idea, i apologize
[04:32] <bimberi> Baxter_Kylie: yw :)
[04:32] <bimberi> Psykus: click the "Mark All Upgrades" button
[04:32] <ISOcrates> how do you version one user in particular?
[04:32] <nalioth> ISOcrates: what client do you use?
[04:32] <Razor-X> nalioth: I want to use my op powers :P
[04:32] <AdmiralSenn> ISOcrates, /ctcp username version
[04:32] <sn9> ISOcrates: you could right click their nick and go to ctcp
[04:32] <ISOcrates> i'm on x-chat
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> ISOcrates, ... if the user gives you the permission ... IF ... /ctcp username version
[04:32] <GTroy> anyone use moaning goat meter?
[04:32] <Vanish> Any know how to fix distortion/static on amarok when listening to music?
[04:33] <nalioth> ISOcrates: right click on a nick and see what you can do
[04:33] <Psykus> ugh, 438 MB of archives on dial-up...I should probably just send for another ubuntu CD, this time breezy :P
[04:33] <ISOcrates> ok thanks
[04:33] <lou_> hey everyone: So it seems as though my apt-get is a little messed. I keep getting dependencies that are NOT being installed. For example when i try to apt-get install mplayer-k6 i get about 5 dependencies such as this one: " mplayer-k6: Depends: libavcodeccvs (>= 2:20050417-0.0) but it is not going to be installed" Any ideas?
[04:33] <TiMiDo> lou_; apt-get -f install
[04:34] <sn9> lou_:  do you have all repositories enabled?
[04:34] <crimsun> lou_: you're using debian-marillat sources, that's bad.
[04:34] <Razor-X> nalioth: <zenrox> pissoff now or ill get you, i know who you are and whare you live
[04:34] <lou_> crimsun, which sources should i be using.
[04:34] <cyfer> ubuntu guys , you are great ......your support is so incredible ..... you've beaten ms on that !!!!
[04:34] <crimsun> lou_: multiverse
[04:34] <lou_> timido, -f doesn't do anything for me.
[04:35] <nalioth> Razor-X: yes? is that a member of your fan club?
[04:35] <TiMiDo> lou_; then get the source from the webpage, and compiled it you'r self
[04:35] <lou_> crimsun, multiverse is enabled...should i just disable my debian-marillat one then?
[04:35] <crimsun> lou_: that's advisable.
[04:36] <sn9> lou_: yes
[04:36] <lou_> thanks
[04:36] <lou_> beautiful thanks everyone!
[04:36] <TiMiDo> np
[04:36] <Razor-X> nalioth: i'm thinking not
[04:36] <Razor-X> nalioth: unless it went -s, of course
[04:36] <lou_> I had those ones enabled b/c of dvd codecs...read it on the wiki.
[04:37] <sn9> lou_: that shouldn't be on the wiki
[04:37] <nalioth> Razor-X: are you on ritalin?
[04:37] <Razor-X> nalioth: nope
[04:37] <sn9> lou_: you can get libdvdcss from the hoary-extras repository
[04:38] <Agrajag> sn9: not if he's not running hoary
[04:38] <Agrajag> and come to think of it, it's not there anymore anyway
[04:38] <sn9> Agrajag: works for me on breezy
[04:38] <Agrajag> legal problems
[04:39] <GTroy> somone here mentioned using moaning goat to find close lugs
[04:39] <cyphase> *sigh*
[04:40] <Psykus> anyway to fix my firefox problem in the meantime, until my breezy CD comes in?
[04:40] <cyphase> does anyone know how to change the language in openoffice?
[04:40] <Toba> hrm
[04:40] <Toba> I just installed kde and now konqueror is my default browser
[04:40] <Toba> where does ubuntu store the default?
[04:40] <Psykus> Toba, are you trying to switch back to firefox?
[04:40] <Toba> yes
[04:41] <cyphase> anyone?
[04:41] <cyphase> pretty pleeeeease
[04:41] <cyphase> lol
[04:41] <Toba> cycom: lemme look, I think I remember where htat is
[04:41] <Psykus> firefox has an option to set it as your default browser
[04:41] <Toba> Psykus: o rly, I can't find it...
[04:41] <Psykus> i'd look, but my firefox is textless at the moment :(
[04:41] <Toba> ><
[04:42] <Toba> openoffice is bloated ><
[04:42] <Toba> but I guess it is designed to compete with ms office
[04:42] <ecobuntu> oo2.org is bloated
[04:42] <ecobuntu> it's true
[04:42] <ecobuntu> but so is ms office
[04:42] <] H3[ZeroCool> Using synaptic how do I install an app from a CD or hard disk.
[04:42] <] H3[ZeroCool> ?
[04:42] <bimberi> Toba: System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[04:43] <Toba> psycode: tools -> options -> language settings
[04:43] <ecobuntu> click the applicatin
[04:43] <Toba> err
[04:43] <Toba> cyphase
[04:43] <ecobuntu> then install
[04:43] <Toba> thanks bimberi
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> ] H3[ZeroCool, in sources.list you should have added cd already
[04:43] <bimberi> yw Toba :)
[04:43] <cyphase> Toba, it isn't working
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> as for harddisk ... sudo dpkg -i <appname>
[04:43] <GTroy> anyone familiar with moaning goat?
[04:43] <cyphase> i've tried it
[04:43] <cyphase> again
[04:43] <Toba> cyphase: o rly?
[04:43] <cyphase> and again
[04:43] <Toba> weir
[04:43] <cyphase> and again
[04:43] <Toba> dd
[04:43] <cyphase> lol
[04:43] <Toba> that's the only place I know of, sorry ;(
[04:44] <SEJeff> Completely OT but hilarious: http://theteatime.free.fr/talc/rocky.html
[04:44] <] H3[ZeroCool> Wickedpuppy, I will try that.
[04:45] <rjb> anyone tried to install winex from cvs in ubuntu? with success of course :)
[04:45] <Toba> gah
[04:45] <Toba> I guess xchat doesn't know what's good for it
[04:47] <Psykus> ooh, fun stuff, using lynx to order CDs :P
[04:47] <SEJeff> rjb: winex was renamed cedega ages ago
[04:47] <_native_> yeah!
[04:47] <rjb> I know, but it won't make from cvs
[04:47] <Psykus> lol, wonder if I can use gmail with lynx
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> Psykus, can
[04:48] <sn9> rjb: any specific probs?
[04:48] <_native_> nalioth: thanks for the help etherape compiled and runs great
[04:48] <kevogod> SEJeff, That was pretty good.
[04:48] <rjb> newstruc.c: In function handle_ani_list:
[04:48] <rjb> newstruc.c:740: error: invalid lvalue in increment
[04:48] <SEJeff> You mean that I get ajax in lynx? Sweet
[04:48] <rjb> thats a small part of the error msg
[04:48] <SEJeff> kevogod: I thought I would share it with you guys
[04:48] <nalioth> _native_: np
[04:48] <TiMiDo> !tell rjb about pastebin
[04:49] <Deekin> I usually have a amusing time in Lynx - something that I never think of usually fails in it :)
[04:49] <sn9> rjb: that's too out of context to mean a thing
[04:49] <rjb> one sec, I'll use pastebin
[04:50] <sn9> rjb: did you do this? apt-get build-dep xwine
[04:50] <rjb> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3215
[04:51] <rjb> no, I didn't try that
[04:51] <Toba> psycode: you can
[04:51] <Toba> I have
[04:51] <Toba> err
[04:51] <Toba> psyk
[04:51] <Toba> Psykus
[04:51] <Toba> who is now gone
[04:52] <Toba> damn nicks being identical like that
[04:52] <Toba> ><
[04:52] <pupil> can anyone tell me how to set up my network card,. I have modprobed for it,. and found it,. now I need to get dhcp running on it
[04:53] <SEJeff> pupil: System --> Administration --> Networking. Can you see it there?
[04:53] <TiMiDo> pupil; sudo ifdown -a and then ifup -a
[04:53] <lou_> Hey all, i'm trying to listen to an windows media stream using the firefox...
[04:53] <lou_> i've downloaded mozilla-mplayer
[04:54] <kevogod> lou_, Did you install w32codecs?
[04:54] <kevogod> !w32codecs
[04:54] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[04:54] <sn9> !w32deb
[04:54] <ubotu> I heard w32deb is download a ready to use w32codecs deb at http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (hoary) or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (breezy)
[04:55] <pupil> SEJeff, I just installed server,. all i have is console
[04:55] <dell500> does anyone know if there is a certain folder of some sort for Evolution that I might need to backup for a format?
[04:56] <SEJeff> like TIMiDo said, sudo ifdown -a, sudo ifup -a
[04:56] <pupil> TiMiDo, cp cannot stat '/etc/resolv.conf': no such file or directory run-parts: /etc/network/if-down.d/postfix exited with return code 1
[04:57] <guest_> hey, can someone send me his breezy apt/sources.list?
[04:57] <kevogod> dell500, I believe ~/.evolution/ and ~/.gconf/apps/evolution
[04:58] <Niggpie> I'm having trouble configuring my WPA_supplicant.conf file. Can someone please give me a hand troubleshooting? It's pasted here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=418483#post418483
[04:58] <bimberi> ubotu tell guest_ about repos
[04:59] <dell500> kevogod, what is /gconf/apps/evolution?
[04:59] <Toba> it's a mail client
[04:59] <Toba> which I frankly don't like
[04:59] <Toba> *burnt
[04:59] <dell500> um, ya i know
[04:59] <dell500> but what does it contain?
[04:59] <rjb> sn9, I did the apt-get part, waiting to see if it works
[05:00] <Toba> dell500: sounds like settings for gnome evolution
[05:00] <Toba> but I could be wrong
[05:00] <Toba> as I'm guessing based on filenames here
[05:00] <thrice`> recommendations for streaming videos in firefox?  is mozplugger and totem-xine still the easiest ?
[05:00] <rjb> sn9, same thing
[05:00] <sn9> rjb: you using gcc 4.0?
[05:00] <Toba> thrice`: eugh, all the possibilities suck right now.
[05:00] <Toba> mplayer is... just bleh and totem can't play anything
[05:00] <rjb> sn9, YES
[05:01] <Toba> since it needs a plugin
[05:01] <rjb> sn9, capslock :)
[05:01] <Toba> but does not tell you where to get it
[05:01] <thrice`> Toba, it can with w32codecs
[05:01] <Toba> I have w32codecs and it doesn't work :/
[05:01] <Toba> vlc media player > all
[05:01] <sn9> rjb: maybe 4.0 isn't compatible
[05:01] <Toba> but it isn't a plugin :/
[05:01] <thrice`> i was hearing about totem-plugin for firefox
[05:02] <rjb> not sure, I'm doing a clean reinstall, see if that works since i Updated all of those dependencies
[05:02] <weijie90> hi
[05:02] <kevogod> dell500, Configuration settings
[05:02] <weijie90> how do i use a terminal as a desktop background?
[05:02] <weijie90> or part of the background?
[05:02] <aaylnx> quick question from an ubuntu newbie.  when i mount network shares in the places/network servers, where are the shares really mounted at?  how can i get to them from the command line.  df doesn't show them mounted.
[05:03] <pupil> TiMiDo, both sudo ifup -a and sudo ifdown -a returned the same message
[05:03] <rjb> kevogod, I work for Dell, and there is only one config you need $SETDELL = indumpster
[05:03] <rjb> jk, hehe
[05:03] <nalioth> weijie90: something about root|tail or something like that. i'm not sure how to do it
[05:03] <pupil> TiMiDo, maybe my connection is not plugged in properly
[05:03] <pupil> brb
[05:03] <kevogod> rjb, No, that is true.
[05:03] <kevogod> rjb, The value of a Dell goes up by 200% when in the trash.
[05:03] <weijie90> hmmm...
[05:04] <rjb> lol
[05:04] <TrekCycling> how do you permanently shut down services like mysql or postfix in ubuntu?
[05:04] <Amaranth> anyone wanna test a prerelease version of smeg 0.8? if you care about your customized menu you shouldn't try it
[05:04] <kevogod> rjb, I have proven this scientificly.
[05:04] <kevogod> Amaranth, Sure.
[05:04] <rjb> I work for them, but I build my own
[05:04] <nalioth> Amaranth: link?
[05:04] <rjb> I wouldn't own one myself
[05:04] <lou_> hey, can anybody stream from the following website with the firefox mplayer plugin? ttp://www.cknw.com/shared/corus_content/corus_player/index.aspx?rem=cknwam
[05:04] <Amaranth> http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg-devel/smeg-0.8prealpha.tar.gz
[05:05] <lou_> er...make that http://www.cknw.com/shared/corus_content/corus_player/index.aspx?rem=cknwam
[05:05] <Amaranth> extract it, cd into smeg-0.8/src, run ./smeg
[05:05] <nalioth> Amaranth: need it tested on hoary?
[05:05] <aaylnx> hmm.  anyone know the answer to my question about the location of mounted network shares?
[05:05] <lou_> kevogod: yes i do have the w32codecs installed, thanks.
[05:05] <Amaranth> nalioth: No, hoary's GNOME is too buggy.
[05:06] <nalioth> Amaranth: ah, well let me change boxes
[05:06] <TrekCycling> anyone?
[05:07] <sn9> TrekCycling: you mean so they don't start at boot?
[05:07] <frank23> lou_: I use mediaplayerconnectivity extension and I couldn't make that work
[05:07] <kevogod> Amaranth, python: can't open file 'setup.py'
[05:07] <r0d> TrekCycling, what version of ubuntu
[05:07] <lou_> thanks frank23.
[05:07] <thrice`> kevogod, have python installed?
[05:07] <TrekCycling> sn9, Yeah. Used to be easier in the days before GUIs or inetd (going way back)
[05:07] <sn9> TrekCycling: man update-rc.d
[05:07] <Amaranth> kevogod: ignore the INSTALL file, cd into smeg-0.8/src, then run ./smeg
[05:08] <TrekCycling> version 5.10
[05:08] <weijie90> TrekCycling: u can try "update-rc.d -f postfix remove" i think it will stop it from runing during boot.
[05:08] <kevogod> Amaranth, OK
[05:08] <TrekCycling>  there we go
[05:08] <TrekCycling> thanks
[05:08] <TrekCycling> It's been so long since I've had to do it manually
[05:09] <dazvid> Im trying to apt-get msttcorefonts, however it says its not available. Do I have to enable another repos? Is it even available for breezy?
[05:09] <batman> hey can someone here help me configure my wifi?
[05:09] <TrekCycling> nice, thanks guys
[05:09] <nalioth> dazvid: download them from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:09] <sn9> dazvid: it's available on my breezy. are you sure you have all repositories enabled?
[05:09] <bimberi> Amaranth: running (on Breezy thats up-to-CD-date but not fully up-to-date).  Anything in particular to try?
[05:10] <Adyeths> Oct 16 23:06:32 localhost kernel: [4450288.274000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[05:10] <dazvid> thanks nalioth. sn9 I have all of the ones that synaptic will allow me to
[05:10] <Amaranth> bimberi: Try to break it, do a little of everything.
[05:10] <Adyeths> does anyone have any idea wtf is up with this error message? and how to fix whatever the problem is?
[05:10] <bimberi> Amaranth: k :)
[05:10] <sn9> dazvid: you can add others to synaptic
[05:10] <Amaranth> bimberi: Except move a menu from Applications to System or vice versa.
[05:10] <Amaranth> bimberi: That will error out badly.
[05:10] <tyce> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[05:10] <dazvid> sn9, I realise this, but I dont know which repos its stored on
[05:11] <bimberi> Amaranth: righto
[05:11] <dazvid> :(
[05:11] <sn9> !tell dazvid about repos
[05:11] <kevogod> Amaranth, Is it possible to type in commands?
[05:11] <triplep> um, how do i restart inetd? i'm sure it's easy
[05:11] <sn9> batman: which card?
[05:11] <Yusa_Boy> hiiiiiiiiii
[05:11] <jugular> does anyone know which package contains the header files for c compilation ? (/usr/include/*.h)
[05:11] <Amaranth> kevogod: Not that I'm aware of, I'm thinking of ditching that widget and trying to figure out autocomplete
[05:12] <dazvid> thanks sn9. According to the packages.ubuntu.com its in the multiverse
[05:12] <triplep> killing it was easy.....
[05:12] <thrice`> Amaranth, you wrote smeg?
[05:12] <Amaranth> thrice`: Yep.
[05:12] <thrice`> neat :)
[05:12] <vrs> how to use floppy ?
[05:12] <kevogod> Amaranth, Yea, because I have some WINE commands that are not selectable through it.
[05:12] <vrs> mount /dev/floppy?
[05:13] <Amaranth> kevogod: D'oh, it'll completely butcher them. (cut off all arguments to the program)
[05:13] <sn9> vrs: that's one way, but not required
[05:13] <vrs> ?
[05:13] <pupil> how do I configure eth0 for dhcp
[05:13] <sn9> pupil: network-admin
[05:14] <pupil> sn9, ok
[05:14] <vrs> sn9 how to use floppy disk
[05:14] <pupil> sn9, command not found
[05:14] <vrs> ?
[05:14] <GTroy> hmm what's the best newsreader?
[05:14] <GTroy> anyone have any opinions
[05:14] <GTroy> ?
[05:15] <sn9> pupil: int's installed on ubuntu by default
[05:15] <pupil> sn9, I'm doing this from server install,. console
[05:15] <batman> does anyone know of a tool that i can use to connect to wireless connections?
[05:15] <nalioth> GTroy: newsreader for what?
[05:15] <sn9> pupil: oh. edit /etc/network/interfaces
[05:15] <SEJeff> batman: sudo apt-get install networkmanager
[05:15] <GTroy> binaries
[05:15] <GTroy> if possible nzb files
[05:15] <nalioth> GTroy: use pan
[05:15] <GTroy> cool
[05:15] <sn9> batman: you can use network-admin
[05:16] <nalioth> GTroy: use knzb (only one i've been able to get to work)
[05:16] <nalioth> GTroy: you may have to compile knzb yourself
[05:16] <pupil> sn9, I'm not sure what to put in that file
[05:16] <batman> says that it couldn't find networkmanager
[05:16] <SEJeff> batman: Then go to 'System --> Preferences --> Sessions --> Startup' and add nm-applet
[05:16] <SEJeff> batman: network-manager, sorry
[05:17] <kevogod> Amaranth, When I drag applications into 'Other', they disappear from the previous location and do not reappear in the 'Other' category.
[05:17] <SEJeff> adding nm-applet to your session startup adds the applet when you login to gnome everytime
[05:17] <batman> SEJeff: thanks
[05:18] <Amaranth> kevogod: ouch, you shouldn't be able to put them in 'Other' at all
[05:18] <SEJeff> batman: You're welcome, network-manager one of those great things in Linux that "just works TM"
[05:18] <batman> hehe
[05:18] <sn9> pupil: change "static" to "dhcp"
[05:18] <batman> how can i configure my wifi to where it connects automatically
[05:18] <batman> to any open wlan
[05:19] <SEJeff> batman: That is what network-manager does
[05:19] <batman> awesome :P
[05:19] <SEJeff> searches for a network connection and if it finds one, connects
[05:19] <SEJeff> Did you install it yet?
[05:19] <batman> yes
[05:19] <kevogod> Amaranth, Also, shouldn't it ask you to save changes on exit?
[05:19] <batman> i'm on wired at the moment
[05:19] <P00f> hi all
[05:19] <Amaranth> kevogod: It should, but as I said this is prealpha. :)
[05:19] <Adyeths> hi P00f
[05:20] <kevogod> Amaranth, :-)
[05:20] <Amaranth> kevogod: Plus, some of the changes are instant due to the nature of the pyxdg library.
[05:20] <SEJeff> batman: As long as Wireless Network Discovery is on "Always Search" (Which is the default) it will do exactly what you want
[05:20] <P00f> i am trying to make so a thai CD works with american CD players... anyone have any suggestions? i own it legaly...
[05:20] <Phuzion> Is there a good identd program that I can get with apt-get?
[05:20] <Amaranth> kevogod: So I'll probably make them all instant.
[05:20] <sn9> P00f: a cd is a cd
[05:20] <P00f> can i use kd3 somehow to decode it into joliet?
[05:20] <P00f> it isd all .dat files
[05:20] <kevogod> Amaranth, True, but there is the "Revert Changes" option that could be used if the user selects, "No" to save changes.
[05:21] <SEJeff> P00f: All cds are iso9667, there is no regional encloding for cds
[05:21] <sn9> P00f: are you talking about aan audio cd or cd-rom?
[05:21] <Amaranth> kevogod: That reverts all of their local changes to an entry (name and such) to the system version by deleting the local version
[05:21] <SEJeff> Adyeths: What is your q
[05:21] <Phuzion> What identd program does everyone use?
[05:21] <P00f> well, i can play it in the cd player I bought in thailand , just not in american CD players
[05:21] <digitalslave> anyone know how to dual boot to new install cd so it doesnt wipe windows?
[05:21] <Amaranth> kevogod: I should probably figure out a better name.
[05:21] <nalioth> Adyeths: and what question was that?
[05:21] <Adyeths> does anyone have any idea wtf is up with this error message? and how to fix whatever the problem is?
[05:22] <batman> SEJeff i go to the network settings and it doesn't allow me to connect to my wlan
[05:22] <Adyeths> Oct 16 23:06:32 localhost kernel: [4450288.274000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[05:22] <Amaranth> kevogod: Does "Revert to Original" sound better?
[05:22] <SEJeff> batman: Is your wireless network setup?
[05:22] <batman> yes the wap is setup
[05:22] <SEJeff> batman: And is your card detected / enabled?
[05:22] <batman> yes
[05:22] <sn9> P00f: are you talking about an audio cd or cd-rom?
[05:23] <Adyeths> this error message started when I upgraded to breezy. and seems to have a direct relationship to numlock being on.
[05:23] <bimberi> Amaranth: seems kinda like "Factory Settings"
[05:23] <SEJeff> batman: Under System --> Administration --> Networking, does it see your wireless card?
[05:23] <jsubl2> Adyeths, is it causing a problem
[05:23] <digitalslave> how do you install without wiping windows that is set up on its own partition?
[05:23] <Amaranth> bimberi: There will be another option for completely reverting all changes to every part of the menus.
[05:23] <kevogod> When the option is offered globally, it can be misleading to what it does.
[05:23] <batman> yes it does
[05:23] <Adyeths> yes. my log files are getting filled with these error messages.
[05:23] <Amaranth> kevogod: Yeah, I need to disable it until something is selected.
[05:23] <batman> i used the windows wireless drivers tool to install my drivers
[05:24] <bimberi> Amaranth: My "Other" experience is different, if i try to drag something there it simply doesn't happen - and I don't lose it from the original location
[05:24] <bimberi> Amaranth: ah :)
[05:24] <jsubl2> Adyeths, tried a different kernel
[05:24] <SEJeff> Adyeths: That just means that key isn't set, don't even worry about it
[05:24] <Amaranth> bimberi: That's what should happen, "Other" is a special menu.
[05:24] <jsubl2> SEJeff, it is filling up log space
[05:24] <Adyeths> I'd rather find out how to "set" this key so it doesn't fill my log files with error messages.
[05:24] <Amaranth> bimberi: It's where the menu system puts everything it can't figure out how to sort into a menu.
[05:25] <PounK> hello, when you use a french canadian keyboard, you must edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the XkbLayout to ca(fr) .. the gnome utils to configure keyboard don't work when you choose french canadian in the list.. and I think that is difficult for a french canadian noob.. so no french canadian noob can use ubuntu.. is possible to when update ubuntu, the windows ask you if you want to use the accents?
[05:25] <Adyeths> ignoring errors doesn't make them go away. :)
[05:25] <digitalslave> i tried expert but it only has like 8 things listed and doesnt go anywhere
[05:25] <Phuzion> !identd
[05:25] <ubotu> Phuzion: I give up, what is it?
[05:25] <jsubl2> Adyeths, which kernel is it
[05:25] <Phuzion> !wiki identd
[05:25] <Adyeths> its the one that comes with breezy.
[05:26] <SEJeff> jsubl2: You dont know what you are talking about
[05:26] <kevogod> Amaranth, The entries only disappear for the current session for Smeg.
[05:26] <jsubl2> SEJeff, ok
[05:26] <batman> SEJeff: do i need to add a dns?
[05:26] <SEJeff> jsubl2: Logrotate is enabled to rotate all of the logs by default and delete old ones
[05:26] <wendy> well, I just installed 5.10, and now I need the root pw to mount a floppy, but I wassn't given a chance to create one during the install... how do I fix this?  thanks
[05:26] <Amaranth> kevogod: Yeah, because I'm removing them from the entry list inside smeg without making sure the move worked.
[05:26] <SEJeff> wendy: sudo command
[05:26] <kevogod> !tell wendy about rootsudo
[05:26] <kevogod> !tell wendy about root
[05:27] <wendy> SEJeff:  thanks
[05:27] <Amaranth> kevogod: There are several things you could do within smeg (create a new entry or something) that would cause them to reappear as well.
[05:27] <SEJeff> batman: Did you go to System --> Administration --> Networking and set up wlan0 or whatever the card is as DHCP?
[05:27] <bimberi> Amaranth: ah :)
[05:27] <wendy> btw: I see no firewall setup... is it running... configure tool?
[05:27] <batman> yes
[05:27] <batman> SEJeff: yes i did
[05:27] <SEJeff> batman: It should work
[05:27] <kevogod> Did ubotu die?
[05:27] <bimberi> oops - did an up,enter in the wrong window :)
[05:28] <kevogod> OK, just slow
[05:28] <SEJeff> wendy: install firestarter
[05:28] <wendy> SEJeff:  thanks
[05:28] <Phuzion> What is the command to update to Breezy?
[05:28] <Phuzion> With apt-get
[05:28] <sn9> Phuzion: dist-upgrade
[05:28] <ricardo> apt-get update
[05:29] <SEJeff> wendy: yw
[05:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Phuzion about update2breezy
[05:29] <Amaranth> Phuzion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:29] <bimberi> Ooh look, there's Root Terminal - ready to enable
[05:30] <Phuzion> Hey, I got a quick question for everyone here, does anyone have any experience with overwriting the OS in a Microsoft MN-100 router?>
[05:30] <SEJeff> wendy: If you must have a root terminal, sudo -s will do it for you
[05:31] <sn9> Phuzion: http://openwrt.org/
[05:31] <Phuzion> sn9, thanks man, I was looking for that link actually.
[05:31] <P00f> hi
[05:32] <sn9> P00f: are you talking about aan audio cd or cd-rom?
[05:32] <P00f> what is MPEGAV format? tia
[05:32] <P00f> audio
[05:32] <D1> anyone try LISTEN for breezy?
[05:32] <P00f> they save as .dat extension
[05:32] <D1> its the xmms2 frontend
[05:33] <P00f> winamp opens it up but only playes half of the bitsd
[05:33] <P00f> bits
[05:33] <sn9> P00f: an audio cd is an audio cd. if it follows the redbook format, any cd player in the world will play it
[05:33] <P00f> cool
[05:33] <P00f> then what di I classify this cd as?
[05:34] <P00f> do
[05:34] <P00f> tia :)
[05:34] <wendy> SEJeff:  how would I get firestarter to load/start automatically at boot... thanks
[05:34] <P00f> the file extension is .dat
[05:35] <SEJeff> System --> Preferences --> Sessions
[05:35] <sn9> Phuzion: http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Microsoft
[05:35] <P00f> it runs on a thai cd player but not any Joliet american player
[05:35] <SEJeff> wendy: You will have to disable the sudo password for firestarter to auto-load
[05:35] <SEJeff> wendy: Is that ok?
[05:35] <sn9> P00f: joliet is for data, not audio
[05:35] <P00f> thanks <sn9>  :)
[05:36] <cheemp> how do i set the value of an environment variable in bash ?
[05:36] <sn9> cheemp: export
[05:36] <wendy> SEJeff:  that doesn't seem to good... is the firewall running in stealth mode by default?
[05:36] <cheemp> i'm trying "export PATH $PATH:~/" but it's not working
[05:36] <jrattner1> ubotu tell me about gnome themes
[05:37] <SEJeff> wendy: you can disable the password JUST for firestarter if you want
[05:37] <Phuzion> sn9, so I'm stuck with that bullshit OS on there, eh?
[05:37] <pupil> Phuzion, how did it go ?
[05:37] <cheemp> its for putting in my .bashrc to add some paths to PATH
[05:37] <SEJeff> wendy: there are 0 open ports on ubuntu by default
[05:37] <Amaranth> jrattner1: http://art.gnome.org
[05:37] <triplep> how do you login to SWAT as root to actually use it to manage?
[05:37] <jsubl2> export PATH="$PATH:~/" cheemp try that
[05:37] <P00f> is mpeg1 a video or audio format? it says it supports that... dunno..
[05:37] <cheemp> beauty, thank
[05:38] <wendy> SEJeff:  does 0 ports equal good firewall setup?
[05:38] <jrattner1> Amaranth, where should i place a theme that i download?
[05:38] <cheemp> figuring out how to edit .bashrc with vim is already enough
[05:38] <sn9> P00f: mpeg1 can be either
[05:38] <P00f> Thanks mate...
[05:38] <sn9> P00f: mp3 is a form of mpeg1
[05:39] <P00f> what is mpreg 1 file extension?
[05:39] <P00f> all I see is .dat
[05:39] <jsubl2> cheemp, i believe the vim web site has some links to some tutorials
[05:39] <P00f> winamp seems to ony run half of the bits
[05:39] <Amaranth> jrattner1: art.gnome.org tells you
[05:39] <jrattner1> Amaranth, super
[05:39] <sn9> P00f: there are several, but .mpg is the catch-all
[05:39] <m477> vcd's use .dat, don't they?
[05:39] <SEJeff> wendy: 0 ports = no reason for a firewall actually
[05:40] <SEJeff> wendy: Microsoft windows has many open ports by default
[05:40] <P00f> ok, thanks man, your really rock... sn9, thankyou verry much :)
[05:40] <cheemp> yay i have arm-linux-gcc
[05:40] <pupil> nalioth, you there?
[05:40] <wendy> SEJeff:  thanks for your help... gotta go.... sorry to run
[05:40] <nalioth> yes
[05:40] <SEJeff> wendy: later
[05:40] <P00f> sn9 I wish you a good day, thank you again :)
[05:41] <sn9> P00f: if it's a video cd, you can play it with mplayer directly
[05:41] <pupil> I just installed ubuntu hoary server ,. I want to put xfce4 on it .. can I just apt-get install xfce4 and it will install all dependecies, build tools, etc ?
[05:41] <sn9> pupil: install xubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <P00f> waht file extension would that be... I may have to rename files to make it run under windoes X64..
[05:41] <cheemp> jsubl2: i did part of "vimtutor" cmd but i'll finish that and read the manual as i need more advanced function.... not using it as my C++ editor yet.... i wonder how good vim would be for that
[05:41] <pupil> sn9, its a slower system
[05:42] <frank23> who was complaining about atkbd.c   errors
[05:42] <P00f> sn9, i am going to re-format her system tonight to make ubuntu 64 her primary os
[05:42] <jsubl2> cheemp, don't write c++ so not sure.. I do know some devs use it and swear by it
[05:42] <frank23> and who just suggested network-manager?
[05:42] <bimberi> Amaranth: when i set/change an icon the file dialog has no preview (unless that's a gnome setting)
[05:42] <HaroldJohnson> !checksum
[05:42] <ubotu> HaroldJohnson: Are you on ritalin?
[05:43] <tomaj> i accidentally stuffed up my font display by doing dpkg-reconfigure -a. does anyone know how to reset it back to the old settings?
[05:43] <P00f> she want the new blender, and i cant compile it in windows, only ubuntu
[05:43] <HaroldJohnson> How do I perform a checksum/
[05:43] <Amaranth> bimberi: it's a gnome widget
[05:43] <seth_k> HaroldJohnson, "md5sum /path/to/the.file"
[05:43] <sn9> pupil: xubuntu-desktop is the xfce one
[05:43] <HaroldJohnson> seth_k, Thanks
[05:43] <liz4rd> Where can i go to find the universe repos (i'm on breezy fresh install) and i cant apt-get all the usual stuff
[05:43] <rempresent> wow, i don't want to sound like a huge newb, which i am not, but i just loaded up breezy badger, just started to check things out, and i can't find the terminal
[05:43] <Amaranth> bimberi: I think you're supposed to browse for a directory and then it shows all the icons from that directory in the widget
[05:44] <rempresent> where would it be
[05:44] <sn9> !tell liz4rd about repos
[05:44] <pupil> sn9, will I need to apt-get update,. etc,. before I do that?
[05:44] <P00f> well sn9, perhaps I should nuke her system firs and then come back here if ubunto dont work for her :)
[05:44] <P00f> first
[05:44] <P00f> so M player might help, I will try that
[05:44] <P00f> thanks
[05:44] <sn9> pupil: you might have to enable other repositories
[05:45] <amonkey> i <3 breezy
[05:45] <amonkey> goodnight
[05:45] <rempresent> alright, i am just going to come out and say it, where is the terminal in breezy
[05:45] <nicoal>  /me
[05:45] <pupil> sn9, where do I go for the repos again/
[05:45] <sn9> P00f: xine will also work
[05:45] <nicoal> oops, sorry.. wrong window
[05:45] <Dulak> rempresent: kde, gnome, xfce4?
[05:45] <sn9> !tell pupil about repos
[05:45] <dazvid> rempresent, its in Applications > accesories
[05:45] <rempresent> gnome
[05:45] <dazvid> took me ages to find it too
[05:45] <m477> right click desktop
[05:45] <P00f> sn9 you rock... thankyou
[05:45] <m477> there's a shortcut there.
[05:45] <rempresent> omg, i found it
[05:45] <nancy> hello
[05:45] <Manderson> rempresent: applications>accesories
[05:45] <rempresent> that doesn't work in breezy anymore
[05:46] <m477> oh doesn't it
[05:46] <frank23> Adyeths?
[05:46] <bimberi> Amaranth: when you create a launcher (eg. on the desktop) and click on the icon button it uses a different widget, perhaps use that one
[05:46] <m477> I use kubuntu
[05:46] <rempresent> man, why did they move it, geez that took me at least 10 min to find
[05:46] <rempresent> wow
[05:46] <Manderson> I don't think they moved it...they just took it out of the right click menu
[05:46] <rempresent> thanks guys
[05:46] <rempresent> true, my bad
[05:46] <dazvid> No, it used to be in system tools, now in accessories
[05:47] <dazvid> ^^
[05:47] <Amaranth> !info nautilus-open-terminal breezy
[05:47] <frank23> SEJeff: ?
[05:47] <Profeta> hey guyz, I have an ntfs partition, but I just see what there is there, how to copy things and etc
[05:47] <ubotu> nautilus-open-terminal: (open terminal in any folder from Nautilus), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 372 kB
[05:47] <Amaranth> that's handy too
[05:47] <Amaranth> although i just have a launcher on my panel that runs gnome-terminal
[05:47] <SEJeff> frank23: what
[05:48] <bimberi> Amaranth: Anyway, I've created/deleted/edited a few menus and entries and can't break it.  So the only glaring omission I can see is that Help->About doesn't mention Red Dwarf :P
[05:48] <frank23> SEJeff: I tried the network-manager that you suggested and it royally screwed my system. There is some kind of conflict between what it does and the vmware network modules
[05:49] <Amaranth> bimberi: the name is changing to "Alacarte Menu Editor" soon anyway. :)
[05:49] <frank23> SEJeff: there were alot of kernel error messages so I removed network-manager. I wonder what was the problem...
[05:49] <bimberi> Amaranth: Awwww :'(
[05:49] <SEJeff> frank23: That is why you don't use vmware
[05:49] <SEJeff> run linux natively :P
[05:50] <frank23> SEJeff: no I run linux natively
[05:50] <frank23> SEJeff: I installed vmware in linus
[05:50] <Amaranth> bimberi: People think "smeg" is offensive, being slang for smegma and all.
[05:50] <m477> and because of Red Dwarf.
[05:50] <SEJeff> frank23: Sorry, I guess it is not for you
[05:50] <dazvid> smeg is actually a swear word that was created recently, theres a website about it
[05:50] <SEJeff> frank23: I don't use vmware, and it works surprisingly well
[05:50] <m477> smeg is a kitchen appliance manufacturer
[05:51] <dazvid> lol ^
[05:51] <frank23> SEJeff: yeah... I think it was due to a specific module that does bridged networking between guest and host
[05:51] <frank23> SEJeff: Maybe I'll try to get rid of that one since I never use it
[05:51] <Amaranth> dazvid: It's from Red Dwarf, it's not new. It's a generic swear word, you can use it to replace any other swear word (e.g. smeg off you smegging moron)
[05:52] <liz4rd> LOL
[05:52] <dazvid> Well someone ripped it off then
[05:52] <dazvid>  :P
[05:52] <m477> yeah, Red Dwarf invented it
[05:53] <SEJeff> frank23: If you are able to, nm is a really cool app
[05:53] <m477> smeeeeeheaaaaaaa
[05:53] <Shadowwlf> I just thought of something when helping someone, does, when running a LiveCD, updating repositories and then running apt-get update then upgrade work?
[05:53] <bimberi> m477: lol
[05:53] <P00f> :)
[05:53] <frank23> SEJeff: I just wanted to try it... I guess it's mostly useful with a laptop which I don't have
[05:53] <m477> can't wait for the movie :')
[05:53] <Amaranth> Shadowwlf: No, it'll try to update the LiveCD.
[05:54] <SEJeff> frank23: Actually, it does wired, wireless, and vpn
[05:54] <pupil> m477, from server install on hoary, can I still get xubuntu-desktop ?
[05:54] <SEJeff> frank23: If you do any 2 of those, it can't be beat
[05:54] <m477> yes
[05:54] <sn9> pupil: it's a breezy thing
[05:54] <frank23> SEJeff: ok thanks for the info ;-
[05:54] <SEJeff> frank23: np
[05:54] <Shadowwlf> Amaranth, thanks-I started to walk someone through the repo editing and all and that popped into my mind lol
[05:55] <pupil> sn9, therefore?
[05:55] <weijie90> hi
[05:55] <weijie90> how do i add a terminal as part of my deskop background?
[05:55] <m477> pupil: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[05:56] <sn9> it's cold outside / there's no kind of atmosphere / i'm all alone / more or less / goldfish shioals nipping at my toes / fun fun fun in the sun sun sun
[05:56] <batman> can someone help me to configure my wifi card properly
[05:56] <Cody`> Can anyone in here suggest why the devs compiled the kernel with gcc 3.4 and then system based off of gcc4, as everything I've done today needed modules recompiled and I can't as it's all gcc 4 :(
[05:56] <Cody`> [/rant] 
[05:56] <pupil> m477, but If I put gnome on, my system will crall
[05:56] <sn9> pupil: it's not in hoary
[05:56] <SEJeff> Cody`: Install gcc-3.4 then you can
[05:56] <m477> pupil: then install xorg, and a lighter window manager
[05:56] <m477> pupil: sudo apt-get install xorg-common
[05:57] <batman> SEJeff: i'm still having problems with my wifi
[05:57] <SEJeff> Cody`: They install side by side. I know because I did it 10 minutes ago for the vsecurity module
[05:57] <cheemp> i just compiled helloworld for arm-linux...
[05:57] <cheemp> gcc helloworld for i386 is 7106 bytes and arm-linux-gcc helloworld for arm is 5353 bytes
[05:57] <pupil> m477, why gnome verses kde ?
[05:57] <SEJeff> batman: sorry, dont know what to tell you
[05:57] <Cody`> SEJeff: just send it the prefix of gcc-3.4 I assume?
[05:57] <m477> I personally use kde, that's just my preferance, it's all about how you like your desktop to behave
[05:57] <SEJeff> pupil: gnome is a much cleaner desktop environment
[05:57] <sidewind8> anyone having problems with network connectivity?  I've had problems on 5.10, but 5.04 worked perfectly
[05:57] <pupil> m477, my puter is P133 64mb ram
[05:57] <weijie90> how do i add a terminal as part of my deskop background?
[05:57] <m477> oh jesus
[05:57] <konra`> how do you get the location bar back in nautilus (in breezy)?
[05:57] <m477> they still exist?
[05:57] <daved-> god i hate java nightmares
[05:57] <pupil> lol
[05:57] <pax> cleaner? um what makes it clean, smeg?
[05:58] <pupil> m477, still here,.
[05:58] <pupil> m477, edo
[05:58] <m477> I wouldn't even use one of them as a router these days, lol
[05:58] <pupil> :)
[05:58] <SEJeff> Cody`: sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc-3.4
[05:58] <pupil> m477, lol
[05:58] <pax> lets just say gnaome is a fat, and kde is obese.
[05:58] <pupil> m477, just using it to surf the internet
[05:58] <bimberi> konra`: View -> Location Bar
[05:59] <batman> SEJeff: i have the connection enabled, no esside, no wep key, and configured as dhcp
[05:59] <sn9> pupil: xfce will crawl too
[05:59] <m477> even fluxbox would crawl on 64mb ram
[05:59] <pupil> sn9, what would you suggest,. if you were in my positoin
[05:59] <Ravensky> rat poison all the way! :P
[05:59] <pupil> lol
[05:59] <pupil> Ravensky, I'm not hardcore,. just a newbie
[05:59] <sn9> pupil: either make it an ltsp client, or install damnsmalllinux
[05:59] <konra`> bimberi, that's checked and its just not there... I mean the text box (not the buttons to go up directories)
[05:59] <weijie90> pls help...
[05:59] <Ravensky> I actually used Fluxbox for a long time because KDE was being stupid
[06:00] <m477> damnsmalllinux is awesome :)
[06:00] <pupil> sn9, what is ltsp client?
[06:00] <pax> a wise suggestion would be: get more ram, a cpu and a mobo
[06:00] <sn9> pupil: www.ltsp.org
[06:00] <konra`> pupil, light thing stupid program
[06:00] <konra`> thin*
[06:00] <morphix> anyone can help me with apache & using cgi? pm me plz if so.. thanks
[06:00] <Ravensky> I dont know if I really like kubuntu. I've been using Gentoo for the past year and a half, and kubuntu installs much faster, but some programs, namely amarok, are being slow as hell
[06:00] <m477> amarok is slow on everything
[06:01] <Ravensky> wasnt when I was running Gentoo. Well, not as slow as this
[06:01] <Cody`> SEJeff: Wouldn't remeber how to set env variables would you. I need to set CC for vmware modules and can't remeber atm, as in csh(on freebsd) it's setenv
[06:01] <engalicorn> nothing better then watching amarok take your p4 3.2 to a crawl
[06:01] <m477> as long as you drop the dpi to a decent level
[06:01] <m477> kde is nice, for me anyway
[06:01] <konra`> amarok?
[06:01] <Ravensky> amarok == a KDE music player
[06:01] <konra`> ah
[06:02] <Ravensky> quite a nice one too
[06:02] <GnarlyBob> kde's answer to iTunes ;)
[06:02] <m477> it looks good though
[06:02] <GnarlyBob> yeah, it's very nice
[06:02] <cafuego_> I'm sure nobody _forced_ you into buying Intel.
[06:02] <Cody`> m477: use itunes on linux like I do. Works great :)
[06:02] <konra`> rhythmbox is nice and doesnt run slow :p
[06:02] <engalicorn> its a brute getting monkeybrainz to work in ubuntu... but it works in the end... but what a pain... why cant they just include mp3 support?
[06:02] <m477> I don't have an ipod :)
[06:02] <Cody`> m477: doesn't matter, you can download
[06:02] <m477> I still use xmms and vlc
[06:02] <GnarlyBob> rhythmbox is nice too, but lacks the features that amarok has... besides, amarok isn't slow for me
[06:02] <engalicorn> amarok is better then itunes!
[06:02] <Ravensky> amarok has support for ipods, but I rather use gtkpod for modifying my ipod
[06:03] <GnarlyBob> engalicorn: I agree
[06:03] <konra`> hmm, so no ideas on how to enable location bar in nautilus?
[06:03] <seth_k> lots of things are better than iTunes
[06:03] <Madpilot> engalicorn: legal reasons for no mp3 support...
[06:03] <weijie90> konra: Ctrl+L
[06:03] <m477> I use my laptop more than my beast, which is only a pIII 650
[06:03] <weijie90> konra`: Ctrl+L
[06:03] <weijie90> how do i add a terminal as part of my deskop background?
[06:03] <engalicorn> madpilot: i realize but still... its pretty basic functionality
[06:03] <bimberi> konra`: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor, apps-nautilus-preferences, check "always_use_location_entry"
[06:03] <konra`> weijie90, that only does it temporarily
[06:03] <konra`> bimberi, THANK YOU
[06:04] <bimberi> konra`: yw :)
[06:04] <weijie90> konra` : then i have no idea...
[06:04] <VR^> you know what.... i like ubuntu and everything, but i still feel like a peasant when i use it, compared to os x
[06:04] <gnuts> hello
[06:04] <m477> well osx is just so damn pretty
[06:04] <Cody`> how do I set an enviroment variable in BASH?
[06:04] <engalicorn> lol... everything looks like peasentos vs osx!
[06:04] <m477> and it runs so smooth.
[06:04] <Cody`> can't remeber
[06:04] <Yusa_Boy> HI erick
[06:04] <sn9> Cody`: export
[06:04] <nalioth> Cody`: in your ~/.bashrc
[06:04] <Cody`> sn9 ty
[06:04] <VR^> its not just the look
[06:04] <VR^> i just dont really like having to config a bunch of crap to get things to work
[06:04] <engalicorn> its all the pretty animations
[06:05] <VR^> i turn off all the animations in os x
[06:05] <engalicorn> its all what you pay for
[06:05] <Ravensky> VR^, do you use Gnome or KDE?
[06:05] <VR^> gnome
[06:05] <Ravensky> heh
[06:05] <VR^> ive tried kde too though
[06:05] <VR^> i actually downloaded a live kubuntu cd
[06:05] <gnuts> any ndiswrapper master out there?
[06:05] <VR^> its very responsive on my ibook
[06:05] <m477> I prefer kubuntu.
[06:06] <VR^> BUT... i couldnt get airport to work
[06:06] <Ravensky> amarok is being stupid. I've never had it be able to show my my "All Collection" playlist in kubuntu
[06:06] <sn9> gnuts: no need for masters
[06:06] <Cody`> is there anyway to set the enviroment variable for just what I'm going to run?
[06:06] <engalicorn> i dont know what it is about kde but it doesnt seem as smooth as gnome
[06:06] <Ravensky> :|
[06:06] <sn9> Cody`: export, unset
[06:06] <GnarlyBob> Cody`: MYVAR="value" myprog
[06:06] <VR^> i dont find gnome smooth at all
[06:06] <m477> Gentoo is nice, just a pain in the ass to install
[06:06] <GnarlyBob> I'm tired of gentoo.
[06:07] <Ravensky> lol VR^, no VERSION response :P
[06:07] <engalicorn> no?  well ive only been using ubuntu for 2 weeks... used to be windows... anything is better
[06:07] <m477> I still run it on a couple of servers
[06:07] <VR^> Ravensky: it should reply actually
[06:07] <VR^> i dont think i have it turned off
[06:07] <Cody`> env CC=gcc-3.4  ./vmware-config.pl did it
[06:07] <GnarlyBob> I still run gentoo on my server, but probably only until I can get around to ditching it
[06:07] <rempresent> what is the command for installing a .deb package?
[06:07] <sn9> Ravensky: sometimes it can be really slow
[06:07] <daved-> after installing sun's jre i get
[06:07] <daved-> java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object
[06:07] <bimberi> rempresent: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[06:07] <daved-> when trying to run the java binary
[06:07] <m477> dpkg -i file.deb
[06:07] <rempresent> thanks
[06:08] <Ravensky> Well, Gentoo pissed me off the first time I tried to install it. But I wasnt following the instructions right, that's why it wasnt working
[06:08] <Ravensky> and I use genkernel on Gentoo :P
[06:08] <batman_> hey does anyone here know of a program i can use to show a list of wlan i can connect to on a wifi?
[06:08] <GnarlyBob> gentoo's documentation is top-shelf imho
[06:08] <sn9> daved-: how did you install?
[06:08] <nalioth> batman: in a terminal, "iwlist"
[06:08] <GnarlyBob> Just too damn much work to keep it up
[06:08] <m477> But Ubuntu's community is just awesome.
[06:08] <weijie90> gnome on gentoo takes years to compile...
[06:08] <engalicorn> ubuntu is the only linux that installed without any problems on my toshiba satillite...
[06:08] <m477> so does kde
[06:08] <VR^> if any distro goes mainstream it'll be ubuntu
[06:08] <GnarlyBob> weijie90: gnome is miniscule compared to kde or OOo
[06:08] <morphix> ;)
[06:09] <gnuts> sn9, ive got driver present, hardware present, but no light. ifup wlan0 gets 'Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0'
[06:09] <daved-> sn9: downloaded the rpm, alien'd it
[06:09] <Ravensky> (k)ubuntu just seems too simple and plain compared to Gentoo. I liked the technical side of Gentoo :D
[06:09] <weijie90> how do i add a terminal as part of my deskop background?
[06:09] <sn9> daved-: that will never work
[06:09] <daved-> sn9: umm, ok
[06:09] <daved-> how do i do it then?
[06:09] <GnarlyBob> Ravensky: me too, but I just don't have the time to deal with it any more. I've been using linux since 1993, and from having 100% home-rolled distro to having 100% package-based... never found a happy medium
[06:09] <sn9> !tell daved- about w32deb
[06:09] <daved-> so i should use alien to convert rpm's to deb's for installation, except where i shouldn't
[06:09] <engalicorn> i like putting the bits and peices of linux together ie gentoo... but damn it... some times i just want it to work... and ubuntu just worked
[06:10] <Ravensky> GnarlyBob, wow
[06:10] <nalioth> daved-: leave rpms alone, please
[06:10] <sn9> daved-: never use alien for anything
[06:10] <Ravensky> I started using Linux maybe 2 years ago :P
[06:10] <GnarlyBob> engalicorn: yeah, my first ubuntu install was easy... just worked
[06:10] <daved-> nalioth: if you go to www.java.com you get rpm's or nothing
[06:10] <Cody`> w00t
[06:10] <Cody`> sudo * does nothing now
[06:10] <daved-> sn9: wtf crack are you smoking
[06:10] <Ravensky> my first distro was actually Debian
[06:10] <daved-> w32codecs?
[06:10] <daved-> i'm talking java
[06:10] <morphix> can anyone help me with apache & configuring to use cgi? pm me plz if so.. thanks
[06:10] <sn9> daved-: don't go to java.com
[06:10] <Cody`> backports up for breezy yet?
[06:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell daved- about javadeb
[06:10] <GnarlyBob> my first distro was one that doesn't exist any more :)
[06:10] <Ravensky> then moved to Fedora (*shudders*) for a few months
[06:10] <m477> my first distro was redhat 6.22
[06:10] <GnarlyBob> Wonder if anyone remembers SLS
[06:10] <engalicorn> fedora is a joke lol
[06:10] <sn9> daved-: just go to the w32 link
[06:11] <P00f> fedora is a bad joke
[06:11] <engalicorn> on my laptop i mean...  :D
[06:11] <Ravensky> I hated how Fedora (was using Core 2) dealed with dependencies
[06:11] <GnarlyBob> I know people who use fedora happily.
[06:11] <engalicorn> centos isnt too much better
[06:11] <m477> I know people who love fedora, it's just a simple case of what you prefer
[06:11] <GnarlyBob> zackly
[06:11] <daved-> so i have to rely on some random website to get my java from?
[06:11] <daved-> whack
[06:11] <daved-> how do i know i can trust this .deb ?
[06:12] <engalicorn> i know people who hate ubuntu... thats why i avoided it for so long... but man... that was dumb
[06:12] <Ravensky> one reason why I like Gentoo is that I dont have to keep adding new repos to get a package. It's either in the portage or not. All of the mirrors are the same :)
[06:12] <GnarlyBob> I hate debian
[06:12] <P00f> every time i try to get help from fedora IRC,  i get a bunch of snobs, ubunto i talk to people
[06:12] <frank23> daved-: you can make your own deb if you really want to
[06:12] <sn9> daved-: it used to be simpler, but lawyers got involved
[06:12] <nalioth> daved-: its not a random website
[06:12] <rempresent> i need an authentic gpg key, it tells me to run apt get update, but i do that and i get the same error
[06:12] <GnarlyBob> with the passion of the burning sun... which is what kept me from ubuntu for so long
[06:12] <rempresent> how do i remedy this?
[06:12] <m477> P00f: That's why I love Ubuntu, the community is so supportive and friendly
[06:12] <nalioth> rempresent: it's a common error we've been seeing the last few days. it'll sort itself
[06:12] <engalicorn> ubuntu=human fedora=hat...
[06:12] <P00f> aliuen can make rpm into screwed up DEB packages.. you should try that
[06:13] <P00f> alien
[06:13] <rempresent> so i don't need to scramble for an authentic gpg key
[06:13] <bimberi> rempresent: you can try this (worked for me) - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=413710&postcount=2
[06:13] <daved-> frank23: how would i do that?
[06:13] <nalioth> rempresent: no you dont, it'll sort itself
[06:13] <frank23> !tell daved- about java
[06:13] <rempresent> one time i ran apt-get update, and it didn't come up... i just haven't had that error with ubuntu
[06:13] <TiMiDo> !tell daved- about javadeb
[06:13] <sn9> daved-: there's a package called java-package
[06:13] <nalioths_dog> daved-: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[06:13] <m477> I had it once
[06:13] <Ravensky> well, the #gentoo people are kinda asses sometimes too. A lot of them just say RTFM. I really dont feel like reading through a 20+ page man file and looking for a specific option, when the person that's telling me to RTFM probably already knows the answer
[06:14] <P00f> alien is great, every RPM I tryed with it broke my ubuntu instalation and required a re-install...
[06:14] <weijie90> how do i add a terminal as part of my deskop background?
[06:14] <rempresent> thanks
[06:14] <frank23> daved-: follow the sun java procedure
[06:14] <Ravensky> weijie90, keeping persitant in your questioning? :P
[06:14] <P00f> ubuntu needs Cinelerra
[06:14] <nalioth> weijie90: try asking "how do i get my root|tail output as my background"
[06:14] <sn9> daved-: don't forget to remove the aliened pkg with dpkg --purge
[06:14] <GnarlyBob> install java from the bin distribution, not the rpm
[06:14] <weijie90> whats root|tail?
[06:14] <wickedpuppy> weijie90, terminal as part of background ?
[06:14] <GnarlyBob> and just set the appropriate variables
[06:15] <GnarlyBob> weijie90: there are gnome-desklets that do that
[06:15] <weijie90> wickedpuppy: yes... not in a window
[06:15] <P00f> ubuntu needs http://www.google.com/search?q=cinelerra&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
[06:15] <m477> wickedpuppy: I assume he's referring to the screenshots around where they have terminals with no borders fixed to their desktop
[06:15] <GnarlyBob> or karamba, if you use kde
[06:15] <frank23> anyone here know why azureus is not in universe?
[06:15] <engalicorn> cause its a memory hog
[06:15] <P00f> I need to add cinelerra to the ubunto wanted list
[06:15] <weijie90> GnarlyBob: hmm thanks... illl google for these desklets
[06:15] <wickedpuppy> weijie90, that would be .... well ... ah ... no borders ?
[06:15] <m477> because bittornado is so much easier
[06:15] <sn9> frank23: because it doesn't make a good .deb
[06:15] <weijie90> wickedpuppy: yes
[06:15] <GnarlyBob> weijie90: it's actually called "gnome-desklets" :)
[06:16] <weijie90> ic...
[06:16] <frank23> sn9: what do you mean?
[06:16] <wickedpuppy> weijie90, can i msg ya ?
[06:16] <weijie90> sure
[06:16] <sn9> frank23: get it from sourceforge. it writes to itself
[06:16] <rempresent> do you guys like using http://ubuntuguide.org/ or is there a better all around tutorial that i am not aware of
[06:16] <frank23> sn9: for the updates you mean?  yeah
[06:16] <m477> ubuntuguide is great
[06:16] <m477> especially when merging from windows
[06:16] <sn9> frank23: exactamindo
[06:17] <Hobbsee> rempresent: it's not recommended
[06:17] <nalioth> rempresent: ubuntuguide will wreck your box
[06:17] <Hobbsee> !faq
[06:17] <frank23> rempresent: the wiki is better
[06:17] <ubotu> [faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[06:17] <rempresent> really
[06:17] <m477> really?
[06:17] <cew_badung> malang
[06:17] <Hobbsee> rempresent: a lot of it is old
[06:17] <engalicorn> has anyone had any problems with mplayer playing HD movies on apple trailers?
[06:17] <rempresent> i noticed that it really  hasn't been changed since warty
[06:17] <sn9> engalicorn: i have
[06:17] <nalioth> rempresent: ubuntuguide was good for warty, got less updated as hoary advanced, and now will cause you trouble if you follow it too closely
[06:18] <wickedpuppy> weijie90, pls see your pm ... i pm ya
[06:18] <engalicorn> sn9... any luck on getting sound to work 100% the time?
[06:18] <sn9> engalicorn: no, but then, i'm on ppc
[06:18] <nalioth> wickedpuppy: pm him about root|tail in the background?
[06:18] <rempresent> what should i use as a general guide, i lived and died by that thing when i had warty
[06:18] <rempresent> i am going to check the wiki
[06:18] <sn9> engalicorn: w32codecs didn't help?
[06:18] <mcadory> ubuntuforums.org is much better than the guide imho
[06:18] <Hobbsee> !tell rempresent about faq
[06:19] <wickedpuppy> root|tail ? no .. about why he wanna do a terminal in the background
[06:19] <nalioth> rempresent: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[06:19] <weijie90> i think i've found it... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31928.html
[06:19] <wickedpuppy> oh k
[06:19] <wickedpuppy> good then :P
[06:19] <Faithful> Why when I chose "server" install does it install alsa?
[06:19] <engalicorn> sn9:  nope these are the HD trailers... w32codecs only support upto quicktime 7... have to use the FFMPEG libraies with flac (faac) audio decoding
[06:19] <nalioth> wickedpuppy: i'd like to know about that too (that's why i hate private msgs)
[06:19] <weijie90> thanks!!!
[06:19] <Dreamer3> can anyone help me figure out why X forwarding doesn't work?
[06:20] <wickedpuppy> nalioth, i was about to ask him why ... i can't figure out why he wanna do it ...
[06:20] <Faithful> I don't know too many server class hardware that has sound card installed by default
[06:20] <engalicorn> sn9: make that quicktime 6
[06:20] <nalioth> wickedpuppy: cuz it's cool
[06:20] <frank23> is the ubuntu faq included in kubuntu? it seems pretty good
[06:20] <sn9> engalicorn: oh. when i try it on ppc, i get either silent video or audio with no video
[06:20] <Faithful> wickedpuppy: you have to use -X on the command line by default
[06:20] <nalioth> wickedpuppy: have you never seen the output from tail put into your background?
[06:20] <Hobbsee> frank23: dont think so, but it's easy enough to save the webpage
[06:21] <m477> wickedpuppy: forward it to me too
[06:21] <engalicorn> sn9: are using both cvs mplayer and cvs ffmpeg?
[06:21] <wickedpuppy> nalioth, yes ... in freesbie
[06:21] <sn9> engalicorn: breezy versions of both
[06:22] <wickedpuppy> or livebsd ... i can't remember which ... one of those live bsd distros
[06:22] <nalioth> wickedpuppy: it's a simple command, but i can't remember it. maybe i'll go ask google
[06:22] <engalicorn> sn9: i dont think the HD trailers are working in the breezy versions... i havent used them too extensivly... but i know that 90% of the HD trailers work with cvs mplayer and ffmpeg
[06:23] <Phuzion> What is the command for disabling your ethernet card?
[06:23] <sn9> engalicorn: breezy versions are cvs snapshots from a few weeks ago
[06:23] <engalicorn> and they are worth it! even at 480p it looks better then DVD
[06:24] <nalioth> weijie90: wickedpuppy: m477: http://www.var.cx/root-tail/
[06:24] <engalicorn> sn9: well then... i dont know why they wouldnt be working... i know i had to do a lot of tweaking
[06:24] <m477> thanks nalioth
[06:24] <sn9> Phuzion: ifdown, but you could use network-admin
[06:24] <engalicorn> the only trailer i cant get sound on is the Jarhead trailer
[06:24] <Phuzion> thanks
[06:24] <wickedpuppy> thanks nalioth :P
[06:25] <nalioth> weijie90: wickedpuppy: m477: it is also in the repos as "root-tail"
[06:25] <m477> it's in universe
[06:25] <engalicorn> but that is something wrong with the faad2 decoder that mplayer uses... i complied a cvs version of faad2 to get all the other HD trailers to work with sound
[06:25] <m477> haha
[06:25] <m477> yeah
[06:25] <m477> that :P
[06:26] <wickedpuppy> lol ... we are like kids who just found a new toy ...
[06:27] <xuniluser> How do i upgrade my ubuntu from hoary to breezy?
[06:28] <frank23> !tell xuniluser about upgrade2breezy
[06:28] <Q_Continuum_> wery wery carefully.
[06:28] <engalicorn> ok this is the weirdest thing... im playing coverting some old LPs to mp3 so i have my turntable routed through my laptop then my laptop connected to my speakers... when i open a page in firefox the quality of the sound goes funny and to fix it i click on the terminal and the second the click sound appears my sound goes back to normal? anyone seen this?
[06:28] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: howdy
[06:28] <xuniluser> !tell xuniluser about upgrade2breezy
[06:28] <moshe> hello
[06:28] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth Howdy
[06:28] <moshe> I cannot log into kde, gnome, or xfce, but I can log in to blackbox
[06:28] <moshe> I just did the breezy upgrade two nights ago
[06:29] <moshe> when I try to log into any of those three DE's, X reboots
[06:29] <HaroldJohnson> I screwed up my Breezy upgrade, I guess.
[06:29] <moshe> anyone know where I should look to fix this?
[06:29] <sn9> moshe: delete .ICEauthority
[06:29] <moshe> sn9, that's in /home/moshe ?
[06:29] <sn9> moshe: yeah
[06:29] <moshe> ok thanks
[06:29] <moshe> I'll give that a try
[06:29] <moshe> brb
[06:30] <mcadory> xuniluser edit your /etc/apt/source.list and globally change hoary to breezy; apt-get update; apt-get dist-update
[06:30] <weijie90> nalioth: no idea on how to use root-tail...
[06:30] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone know how to interrupt the boot process and drop directly into a console?
[06:30] <bur[n] er> has anyone tried usign "listen" or "pympd" as music players yet?
[06:30] <nalioth> weijie90: open a terminal and type "man root-tail"
[06:30] <sn9> HaroldJohnson: at which point?
[06:30] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: choose 'rescue' ?
[06:31] <HaroldJohnson> Before it quits due to some kind of boot error.  When it quits, it states "Rebooting in 180 seconds...'
[06:31] <weijie90> nalioth: its too advanced... ill use gdesklets instead
[06:31] <sn9> HaroldJohnson: that's a kernel panic
[06:31] <SolidSnake> what happened to the G to the start menu...its an ubuntu symbol
[06:32] <HaroldJohnson> sn9, Do you know how I can avoid that a halt the boot process?
[06:32] <nalioth> weijie90: visit the first URL i posted to you, there are other programs of similar intent, but different command usage
[06:32] <dampjam> I'm trying to compile a program and I get: warning: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory... which package should I install to get that library?
[06:32] <sn9> HaroldJohnson: depends on at what point it errors out
[06:32] <pipegeek> Hi all.
[06:32] <wickedpuppy> dampjam, you got to link to X11 libraries
[06:33] <pipegeek> Just wondering....what happened to kvim in breezy?  I just dist-upgraded and it isn't there (packages.ubuntu.com confirms it)
[06:33] <pipegeek> I like kvim!
[06:33] <HaroldJohnson> sn9, "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[06:33] <sn9> HaroldJohnson: that's a hardware failure
[06:33] <dampjam> wickedpuppy: How do I do that?
[06:33] <sn9> HaroldJohnson: what does it say before that?
[06:34] <HaroldJohnson> sn9: It can't find some files.
[06:34] <HaroldJohnson> sn9: For example,
[06:34] <sn9> yes? ...
[06:35] <Dreamer3> i changed a bunch of stuff in xorg.conf (renderaccel, nv instead of nvidia, but none of it seems to make a difference)
[06:35] <Dreamer3> if i'm in afterstep gaim dies whenever i click a menu with "BadWindow"... in xfce it dies right away (when forwardign X)
[06:35] <Dreamer3> the gaim sysem is ubuntu and i'm lost
[06:35] <HaroldJohnson> sn9: Thanks for your help
[06:35] <pupil> what run level does ubuntu use for x-windows system,. is it 2 ?
[06:35] <dampjam> wickedpuppy: I already have the link in place... but the right source files are not there
[06:35] <Dreamer3> it worked fine earlier
[06:36] <Dreamer3> pupil: 3 or 5
[06:36] <sn9> HaroldJohnson: what files
[06:36] <Dreamer3> pupil: i thik
[06:36] <wickedpuppy> dampjam, can paste the while gcc command you did to compile ? oh and do you have X11 headers ?
[06:36] <pupil> Dreamer3, I thought Redhat systems used 3
[06:36] <pupil> Dreamer3, don't Debian systems use 2 ?
[06:37] <sn9> pupil: yes
[06:37] <nalioth> dampjam: install xlibs-dev xlibs-static-dev and x-window-system-dev
[06:37] <pupil> sn9, thank you,. I'm configuring ltsp server now
[06:37] <dampjam> gcc -MMD -c  -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -g -O2 -Wall -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -fno-keep-static-consts -D__const=const -fno-strict-aliasing -D__int8=char -D__int16=short -D__int32=int "-D__int64=long long" -fPIC -D__WINE__ -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -o bitblt.o bitblt.c
[06:37] <dampjam> bitblt.c:9:27: warning: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory
[06:37] <sn9> pupil: breezy has ltsp built-in
[06:38] <nalioth> dampjam: please dont paste in here
[06:38] <nalioth> dampjam: see what i wrote to you above?
[06:38] <Dreamer3> pupil: 2 is console
[06:38] <Dreamer3> pupil: i'd thought
[06:38] <dampjam> yes... thanks... but there are dependency errors on those packages
[06:39] <pupil> sn9, excellent,. cause I'm on breezy
[06:39] <pupil> sn9, so what then will I have to configure?
[06:39] <sn9> pupil: you still have to install the pkgs, though
[06:39] <pupil> sn9, I have installed the packages
[06:39] <dampjam> All of those packages end up requiring  libxrender-dev after a few levels, but it is not available
[06:39] <pupil> sn9, do I need to configure anything?
[06:40] <sn9> pupil: you have to configure /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, for one thing
[06:40] <pupil> sn9, and what do I do on the client?
[06:40] <nalioth> dampjam: are you using non ubuntu repos?
[06:40] <dampjam> nalioth: nope
[06:40] <nalioth> dampjam: are you sure? cuz all the depends for those 3 items i mentioned are present
[06:41] <dampjam> nalioth: positive, it wants libxrender-dev and it cannot find that
[06:41] <sn9> pupil: netboot it
[06:41] <nalioth> dampjam: something is very weird then
[06:42] <pupil> sn9, your over my head,. I don't know how to netboot my P133
[06:42] <sn9> pupil: what nic does it have?
[06:42] <pupil> ne2k-pci
[06:43] <pupil> sn9, ne2k-pci
[06:43] <pupil> sn9, realtek 8029
[06:43] <dampjam> nalioth: I have run apt-get update... it cannot find those
[06:45] <sn9> pupil: it has 2 nics?
[06:45] <pupil> no,. I only have one nic,... i was showing you the modprobe ne2k-pci,.
[06:45] <pupil> sn9, that is how I modprobe for my realtek 8029
[06:45] <sn9> pupil: does the nic have a boot rom?
[06:46] <pupil> sn9, I don't know
[06:46] <bimberi> dampjam: show us your /etc/apt/sources.list, on a pastebin ...
[06:46] <bimberi> !pastebin
[06:46] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:46] <sn9> pupil: look at it
[06:46] <sagar> how do you install new fonts in gnome?
[06:46] <weijie90> dump them in fonts:\\\
[06:46] <pupil> sn9, I don't know what to look for
[06:46] <bur[n] er> sagar: put them in fonts:///
[06:46] <weijie90> i mean fonts:///
[06:46] <bam_> what is busybox?
[06:46] <sn9> pupil: either an empty socket or a chip in a socket
[06:46] <sagar> oh ok thanks
[06:46] <weijie90> i mean fonts:\\\ or whatever
[06:47] <sn9> pupil: if the socket is empty, you don't have a rom, and need a floppy
[06:47] <sagar> also i had a problem where i installed KDE, but then removed it, and now all my "application" font settings aren't correct..when i set the "application font" settings, only firefox respects those values
[06:47] <bur[n] er> \'s are windowsy... /'s are linuxy
[06:47] <dampjam> bimberi: http://pastebin.com/396151
[06:47] <dampjam> I only put the uncommented lines in
[06:47] <pussfeller> can someone tell me what their xorg conf is using for the keyboard, i think my old config wont work
[06:47] <Ar}{Angel> Hello folks
[06:47] <pussfeller> for like pc104
[06:48] <bur[n] er> pussfeller: u can always do a "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:48] <HkS3207> Q:
[06:48] <darklogic> greets
[06:48] <HkS3207> Does ubuntu support drivers for WebCameras ?
[06:48] <pussfeller> but, i dont wanna lose my nvidia stuff
[06:48] <Ar}{Angel> quick question, how do I configure the filebrowser to allow me root access
[06:48] <pussfeller> but i suppose I should
[06:48] <Ar}{Angel> I can't look at my hd because it says I don't have permissions
[06:48] <HkS3207> Q: Does ubuntu support drivers for WebCameras ?
[06:49] <darklogic> livecd stops at scsi-extra-modules on the "loading additional components" page. anyone know what i should try?
[06:49] <bur[n] er> HkS3207: plug it in and try ;)
[06:49] <pussfeller> HkS3207: many webcams work to varying degrees
[06:49] <bur[n] er> HkS3207: mine works ;)
[06:49] <bimberi> dampjam: you don't have the main repository enabled - paste all of it
[06:49] <pupil> sn9, I can't tell,. is the socket fairly large?'
[06:49] <pussfeller> my crappy old ibm webcam works
[06:49] <weijie90> does gdesklets have a terminal desklet?
[06:49] <HkS3207> mine doesnt seems like
[06:49] <pupil> sn9, its an older card
[06:49] <HkS3207> besides, this is ubuntu live cd... but it didnt configurated mine
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> eh ah ... dampjam pastebin pls
[06:49] <bur[n] er> HkS3207: how are you testing?
[06:49] <bur[n] er> HkS3207: gnome-meeting?
[06:49] <HkS3207> nah
[06:49] <nalioth> weijie90: try paralogger (look at freshmeat.net)
[06:49] <Ar}{Angel> How do I make my hda1 icon on the desktop sudo itself?
[06:49] <HkS3207> i looked for it in my computer :P
[06:50] <HkS3207> let me try dat..
[06:50] <HkS3207> :)
[06:50] <weijie90> thx nalioth
[06:50] <pupil> sn9, I have hoary server installed does that help?
[06:50] <sn9> pupil: if there's nothing wrong with your eyes, you'll see some kind of socket if it's there
[06:50] <ubuntu> x-chatif you are talking to me
[06:50] <darklogic> is there a way i can skip it? i can get to a virtual console
[06:50] <pupil> sn9, on my client that is
[06:50] <bur[n] er> Ar}{Angel: better than sudo'ing itself, set the permissions so a user can access it via /etc/fstab
[06:50] <Ar}{Angel> If anyone is free to answer some questions from a noob, please /msg me
[06:50] <pupil> sn9, I see alot of sockets., one big one thats empty,.
[06:50] <sn9> pupil: then you don't have a rom
[06:51] <pupil> sn9, ok
[06:51] <sn9> pupil: you need a floppy for netbooting
[06:51] <pupil> sn9, where do I go for that?
[06:51] <HkS3207> umm, it kind of got frozen when doing the conf on the NAT part...
[06:52] <bimberi> dampjam: you need something like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted"  (and deb-src ....)
[06:52] <dampjam> Thanks.... I got it all figured out.... it's installing all 44 packages now
[06:52] <bimberi> dampjam: er, sorry, that was wrong, but now irrelevant :)
[06:53] <SolidSnake> can't even message people what kinda crap is that
[06:53] <dampjam> the final goal was to get cedega to work... does anybody keep a daily deb make of cedega?
[06:53] <bam_> benplaut!
[06:53] <benplaut> hey bam_
[06:53] <bimberi> SolidSnake: you can if you're nick is registered
[06:53] <darklogic> anyone?
[06:54] <darklogic> this is a bit frustrating, could really use some help
[06:54] <bam_> did ya get pdax installed ok
[06:54] <TiMiDo> darklogic; yes waz up?
[06:54] <benplaut> bam_: in #zaurus
[06:54] <SolidSnake> just say no to registering
[06:54] <SolidSnake> thats why im freaking running nix
[06:54] <darklogic> TiMiDo, trying to boot the livecd, it stops at "scsi-extra-modules" on the "loading additional components" page
[06:55] <darklogic> i can get to a virtual console, i need a way to skip it or something
[06:55] <sagar> where is the fonts:/// folder actually located?
[06:55] <TiMiDo> sagar; .fonts
[06:55] <TiMiDo> or whereis fonts
[06:55] <sn9> pupil: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/thinstation/network_boot_floppy%2Bcd%2Bhd_540.zip?download
[06:56] <HkS3207> nahd
[06:56] <HkS3207> doesnt work
[06:56] <sagar> timido, the files in fonts:/// and ~/.fonts aren't the same
[06:56] <HkS3207> any tips about how to install my webcam ?
[06:57] <Juhaz> sagar, fonts:// shows both ~/.fonts and /usr/share/fonts
[06:57] <darklogic> i could really use some help here
[06:58] <sagar> Juhaz oh i see
[06:58] <theantidj> Hi.  I'm looking for some assistance on getting my machine on an 802.1x network.
[06:58] <Centaur_> What version of gcc does breezy use to compile the kernel off the install cd?
[06:59] <TiMiDo> !info gcc breezy
[06:59] <ubotu> gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4:4.0.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[06:59] <TiMiDo> Version: 4:4.0.1-3
[06:59] <TiMiDo> Centaur_; Version: 4:4.0.1-3
[06:59] <Centaur_> alright, thank you
[07:00] <Thunderguy> Heh, My system is having lots of trouble with USB floppy drives, It is just spitting out errors on everything I ask it to do.
[07:01] <witless> this freakin badger might finally be the one that makes me switch from debian-unstable
[07:02] <theantidj> anyone with ideas on how to help me with 802.1x?
[07:02] <hks3207> not at all ...
[07:02] <hks3207> i dont know wireless networking :)
[07:02] <mllr> if your running xchat 2.4.4, please msg me if you have a minute. thanks.
[07:02] <theantidj> it's for a wired network though
[07:02] <theantidj> but they still use 802.1x authentication
[07:02] <Coz> Hello all
[07:03] <hks3207> oh well
[07:03] <hks3207> then u may ask...
[07:03] <theantidj> I apparently need a program named xsupplicant
[07:03] <bam_> anyone running korganizer?
[07:03] <theantidj> but I don't know how to install it
[07:03] <Coz> I was wondering if any of you could tell me how to create a keyboard shortcut for CLOSING a cd tray?
[07:03] <theantidj> if I'm not already connected to the internet
[07:03] <hks3207> theantidj,  how come
[07:03] <theantidj> since I can't seem to apt-get it
[07:03] <Coz>  i already have the open cd tray keyboard shortcut
[07:03] <hks3207> umm
[07:03] <hks3207> why dont u auto-download it ?
[07:03] <hks3207> i mean
[07:03] <hks3207> manual
[07:03] <defendguin> has there been 1 update for breezy yet?
[07:04] <hks3207> search in google and download it then install it urself
[07:04] <theantidj> I've got a tar.gz of the xsupplicant file
[07:04] <theantidj> but I don't exactly know what to do with it
[07:04] <theantidj> the documentation at Sourceforge is not new-user friendly
[07:04] <sagar> why wont any applications respect font settings in my "font preferences/application font" setting?!
[07:05] <sn9> theantidj: did you look for a .deb at packages.ubuntu.com?
[07:05] <theantidj> hks: this is their installation instructions: "Generally speaking you should be able to type: ./configure; make; make install to configure and install the Open1x supplicant."
[07:05] <todd_> are the vts turned off in breezy or something
[07:05] <theantidj> I don't know what that means.
[07:05] <sn9> theantidj: did you look for a .deb at packages.ubuntu.com?
[07:05] <lwells> is there a link on instructions on how to upgrade to breezy?
[07:05] <theantidj> sn9: no
[07:05] <theantidj> I will do that now
[07:05] <todd_> once i get into x my vts are gone
[07:05] <todd_> most distressing
[07:06] <geppy> I just `apt-get dist-upgrade`d, and I lost all of my icons (desktop items, things in Nautilus, things like the trash applet and the "show desktop" applet)
[07:06] <geppy> I'm also worried that it messed up my clock, all of my music is playing in half-time, and getting faster as it goes
[07:07] <DShepherd> hey
[07:07] <DShepherd> I need gcc 3.4
[07:08] <DShepherd> I cant apt-get cause I in windows now
[07:08] <theantidj> sn9: they do have it here: "http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/xsupplicant"
[07:08] <Eggo> okay
[07:08] <theantidj> I'm unsure of where to go from there
[07:08] <geppy> okay, cleerlooks was renamed to GNOME, that should help the icons
[07:08] <geppy> that doesn't help my half-time issue
[07:08] <sn9> theantidj: download it from there and put the file on your ubuntu-breezy
[07:08] <DShepherd> would 3.4 be on a breezy cd?
[07:08] <Madpilot> theantidj: if it's listed at packages.ubuntu, you can get the package thru Synaptic or apt-get
[07:08] <DShepherd> or hoary?
[07:08] <theantidj> sn9: should I put it in a specific directory?
[07:09] <sn9> theantidj: no
[07:09] <sorush20> I can't print on the damn  printer..
[07:09] <theantidj> sn9: Ok, and once I put it on my breezy machine, the apt-get command will work for that package?
[07:09] <sn9> theantidj: you will install it with dpkg -i *.deb
[07:10] <theantidj> sn9: oh ok
[07:10] <jmob> Anyone have pointers for dealing with multi-channel (>2) audio cards?  Specifically I'm trying to figure out how to tell it I only have 2 channels on my speakers.
[07:10] <lancer285> Hey guys, my system has been switching to read only for some reason. I can't figure it out. I pasted the output of dmesg here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3217
[07:11] <Madpilot> sn9 & theantidj: every package listed at packages.ubuntu.com is installable thru Synaptic or apt-get. Why are you worrying about dpkg?
[07:11] <jmob> It sounds like the bass channel is getting sent into the ether :-/
[07:11] <sn9> Madpilot: theantidj has no net access
[07:11] <inittab> just wondering if anybody can help me with a dhcp problem, when booting it sits on configuring network devices for quite awhile, ends up not getting a lease on eth1, but as soon as i type dhclient eth1 at a prompt it gets a lease, any ideas?
[07:11] <sorush20> I keep getting access denied when I try to delete anything form my computer space can someone help please.
[07:11] <Madpilot> sn9: ah... much is explained...
[07:12] <inittab> in daemon.log it shows it doing a dhcpdiscover multiple times, but never getting a offer, when i run it manually it gets a offer right away
[07:12] <sn9> lancer285: your HD is dead
[07:12] <theantidj> sn9: upon closer inspection there isn't one with a .deb exention
[07:12] <sorush20> starting of the kernel log fails during loading..
[07:13] <jmob> inittab: do you run dhclient with any arguments?
[07:13] <lancer285> sn9, that's what I was afraid of ): it seems that a reboot temporarly fixes the prob,
[07:13] <inittab> jmob, simply dhclient eth1 at the prompt
[07:13] <sn9> theantidj: the .deb is what you should have downloaded
[07:13] <jmob> inittab: what's in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[07:13] <inittab> eth0 is my local net, which is setup static
[07:13] <jmob> inittab: there should be something link auto eth1 if you want it to autoconfigured
[07:14] <jmob> inittab: something like "auto eth1" i mean
[07:14] <AdmiralSenn> eep
[07:14] <AdmiralSenn> the 'run application' entry vanished from my gnome menu
[07:14] <inittab> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3218
[07:14] <AdmiralSenn> anyone know how to add it back in?
[07:14] <lancer285> sn9, If I get a SATA drive, is that supported and working good in Ubuntu?
[07:14] <DShepherd> I need to get gcc 3.4. I cant apt-get right now Cause I;m on a windows machine, Anybody know how I can get it otherwise
[07:14] <theantidj> sn9: never mind, I went to the wrong place on packages.ubuntu.com  I found it now
[07:14] <theantidj> thanks!
[07:14] <weijie90> how do i remove the eterm menubar?
[07:14] <bur[n] er> DShepherd: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:15] <DShepherd> k
[07:15] <sn9> lancer285: yes, but not all sata host controller chipsets are equal
[07:15] <jmob> inittab: first auto statement might be the only one it's seeing. try "auto eth0 eth1"?
[07:15] <inittab> jmob, alright ill try that, but i can see it trying to use dhclient on eth1 in the logs
[07:15] <lancer285> sn9, so I should make sure that the one my MB has is supported? This would be the secondary drive, not / and /root, but just /home
[07:15] <inittab> not to mention the auto lo above that.
[07:16] <jmob> inittab: nevermind, the man page says there can be multiple auto statements
[07:16] <pupil> sn9, I seem to be having probs configuring the server
[07:16] <Jemte> what might cause the ubuntu iso not to run at boot time
[07:17] <pupil> sn9, I installed all the packages with ltsp-admin,. but when I go to configure hte dhcp,. etc,. it says its not installed yet,.
[07:17] <sn9> lancer285: if it's on the mobo, chances are it's crappy. read http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[07:17] <jmob> inittab: strange
[07:17] <lancer285> sn9,  thank you for the help, I'll check it out
[07:17] <jmob> inittab: what's the dhcp server?
[07:17] <jmob> inittab: does it have any logs?
[07:18] <mururoa>  Hi there. I'm In the installtion on amd64 cpu. Where can I find informations about wich kernel choosing for AMD64 ? ( out of a list of 9 and no hints )
[07:18] <Rev-Marc> how do I start a vnc server on my laptop so I can connect to it from my wifes WinXP?
[07:18] <sn9> pupil: you shouldn't need ltsp-admin
[07:18] <AdmiralSenn> the 'run application' entry vanished from my gnome menu
[07:18] <AdmiralSenn> anyone know how to add it back in?
[07:18] <inittab> jmob, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3219
[07:19] <Rev-Marc> package manager indicates that I have several installed?
[07:19] <inittab> the first one is when a /etc/init.d/networking restart is done
[07:19] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: system -> preferences -> remote desktop
[07:19] <pupil> sn9, ok,. well., what do I need to do to enable it?
[07:19] <inittab> where it actually gets the lease is me doing a dhclient eth1
[07:19] <sn9> pupil: there's an article in the ubuntu wiki
[07:19] <Rev-Marc> bimberi that starts a server on mine?
[07:19] <bur[n] er> AdmiralSenn: alt+f2 ;)
[07:19] <weijie90> how do i remove the eterm menubar?
[07:20] <AdmiralSenn> ....
[07:20] <bur[n] er> AdmiralSenn: not necessarily the same, but just as effective ;)
[07:20] <weijie90> brb
[07:20] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: yes
[07:20] <sn9> mururoa: don't you know your own hardware? :)
[07:20] <Rev-Marc> Thank You
[07:20] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: yw :)
[07:21] <AdmiralSenn> seriously
[07:21] <pupil> sn9, how do I know what dhcp client I am using?
[07:21] <AdmiralSenn> I want to add it back in
[07:21] <pupil> sn9, I mean server
[07:21] <mururoa> I do know it but all 9 kernel should work on my amd64 cpu. I want to know what are the differences ( what's in each of them )
[07:21] <sn9> pupil: the one in breezy. dhcpd3
[07:22] <bimberi> AdmiralSenn: i don't know how to add it back in, but <ALT>F2 is an alternative
[07:22] <pupil> sn9, I need to configure it,. what files do I configure?
[07:22] <jmob> inittab: see what happens if you take the auto statement for eth1 out and run it manually at start-up
[07:22] <sorush20> how can I log in as root in kde..
[07:23] <AdmiralSenn> it's not like I use it a lot, I just prefer to have it at the bottom of my menu
[07:23] <sorush20> does anyone here own a laserjet 1000 printer
[07:23] <Rev-Marc> I can not connect (or see) the Epson printer on my wifes WinXP, I know that it is shared, any thoughts?
[07:23] <sn9> mururoa: optimizations
[07:23] <faisal> hi
[07:23] <faisal> all
[07:23] <geppy> is there a Human GDM theme with a face browser?
[07:23] <sn9> pupil: /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[07:23] <faisal> need cacti help
[07:24] <pupil> thanks
[07:24] <inittab> jmob, if i run it manually
[07:24] <inittab> it works fine
[07:24] <Hobbsee> !tell sorush20 about root
[07:25] <pupil> sn9, I do not have /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[07:25] <Rev-Marc> I can not connect (or see) the Epson printer on my wifes WinXP, I know that it is shared, any thoughts?
[07:25] <sn9> pupil: did you install ltsp-server-standalone?
[07:25] <jmob> inittab: Well, I can't think of anything other than dumping ``route'' and ``ifconfig -a'' output from your networking script
[07:25] <PapaPitufo> #gnome is dead. anybody here
[07:25] <pupil> sn9, I'm not sure,.
[07:25] <Madpilot> !tell sorush20 about printers
[07:26] <sn9> PapaPitufo: #gnome is on irc.gimp.org, isn't it?
[07:26] <xuniluser> Help: I need a driver for Epson LX300+
[07:26] <Hhhhh> yes, gnome is dead
[07:26] <Hhhhh> KDE all the way
[07:26] <Hhhhh> j/k
[07:26] <PapaPitufo> sn9: i was looking at the freenode one
[07:27] <Madpilot> xuniluser: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[07:27] <pupil> sn9, yes,. i did
[07:27] <pupil> wait
[07:27] <pupil> no I didnt
 I would have guessed but where -the hell- can I find wich kernel include what ?
[07:27] <pupil> sn9, do I need standalone?
[07:28] <sn9> mururoa: you can try installing all of them and looking at their .config files in /boot
[07:28] <sn9> pupil: yes
[07:28] <shekhar> hello i am having delays in waking from suspended state in breezy, can someone help?
[07:28] <pupil> sn9, ok,. will do
[07:28] <PapaPitufo> does anybody know how to add to gnome a nice feature from KDE (and windows and beos...): Be able to browse all your files from cascading menus?
[07:29] <PapaPitufo> in KDE it's called Quick Navigator i think
[07:29] <richard> im trying to figure out how to configure my creative webcam on here
[07:30] <Madpilot> PapaPitufo: you can set Nautilus up to do that - enable Browser View, I think it's called
[07:30] <richard> its an instant webcam
[07:30] <richard> can someone help
[07:30] <jmob> inittab: maybe the dhcp packets are getting swalled by something
[07:30] <jmob> swallowed
[07:30] <sorush20> My firmware is uploaded but I can't print I don't know what the hell is going on...
 mmm, yes it's one option. Any clue of what differ from kernel-xxx to kernel-image-xxx to kernel-image-2.6.12-9-xxx ?
[07:30] <PapaPitufo> Madpilot: ?? I mean I want to just browse the filesystem as if it were the Windows Start Menu.
[07:30] <DShepherd> where can I find a list of packages that come default with hoary
[07:31] <PapaPitufo> Madpilot: KDE, BeOS and Windows has had it since Windows 95 SR2
[07:31] <PapaPitufo> DShepherd: an overview can be found at distrowatch.com
[07:31] <crimsun> mururoa: do you mean linux-image-foo?
[07:32] <Madpilot> PapaPitufo: you mean one giant unusable menu instead of three usable ones like Gnome has?
[07:32] <crimsun> mururoa: each linux-image-2.6.12-9-foo is optimised for a different cpu
 I mean kernel-image-k8 and kernel-k8 for example
[07:32] <crimsun> mururoa: we don't use kernel-image-foo
[07:32] <pupil> sn9, when starting and stopping dhcp server,. it failed for both
[07:33] <PapaPitufo> Madpilot: I DON'T want a Start Menu. I want a way to browse the filesystem, with the method the Start Menu uses... cascading lists of menus
[07:33] <sn9> pupil: then your config file is invalid
[07:33] <pupil> sn9, and what should I do?
[07:33] <crimsun> mururoa: linux-k7 is a metapackage that pulls in linux-image-2.6.12-9-k7 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-k7. All the additional packaging infrastructure is there to ensure smooth upgrades.
[07:34] <sn9> pupil: fix your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[07:34] <pupil> sn9, ok
[07:34] <Madpilot> PapaPitufo: in Nautilus, you mean? (gnome's file manager)
 so in doubt I should use pre-selected kernel-amd64-k8 ?
[07:35] <PapaPitufo> Madpilot: I mean in any part of the Gnome desktop. Nautilus, panels, gnome menu, wherever,
[07:37] <Madpilot> PapaPitufo: in Nautilus, Edit menu - Prefs - Behaviour - Always open in browser windows
[07:37] <tapox> On Windows and Mac OS X, when I hold down my middle mouse button (usually the scrollwheel) in Firefox, it displays me with an arrow that I can use to scroll up and down simply by moving the mouse. How can I get this in Ubuntu's Firefox?
[07:37] <PapaPitufo> Madpilot: you don't seem to understand what I want
[07:37] <Madpilot> PapaPitufo: obviously I don't... perhaps you should be clearer
[07:38] <DShepherd> where can I find a list of packages that come default with hoary
[07:38] <sn9> tapox: that's a function of the mouse manufacturer's driver, not firefox afaik
[07:38] <PapaPitufo> bbias
[07:39] <sn9> tapox: did you install Logitech MouseWare for both Win and Mac or something?
[07:39] <Toma-> !tell me about nvidia
[07:39] <doojin> hi guys
[07:40] <doojin> how can I install ubuntu through floppy disk?
[07:40] <sn9> doojin: do you have net access?
[07:40] <doojin> yes
[07:40] <doojin> It's fast
[07:40] <doojin> I installed debian through floppy disk
[07:41] <sn9> doojin: but no cd drive?
[07:41] <doojin> I can't burn a cd
[07:41] <sn9> ah
[07:41] <doojin> net install with floppy disk boot is ideal
[07:41] <nalioth> doojin: installing breezy?
[07:41] <doojin> what is breezy?
[07:41] <nalioth> doojin: the latest version of ubuntu
[07:41] <kruzr> !tell doojin about breezy
[07:41] <doojin> ubuntu is linux for people hehehe
[07:41] <sn9> doojin: breezy is 5.10 of ubuntu/kubuntu
[07:41] <Madpilot> doojin: you can order free pressed CDs of Ubuntu
[07:41] <doojin> I want breezy
[07:42] <doojin> but i have to pay for the ship
[07:42] <Madpilot> doojin: no, it's all free
[07:42] <kruzr> really?
[07:42] <bimberi> DShepherd: i don't know how to list *every* package, but looking at the dependencies of ubuntu-desktop (apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop) will give you some idea
[07:42] <kruzr> is that a Shuttleworth Special or what?
[07:42] <sn9> doojin: you can netinstall ubuntu, but not from floppy
[07:42] <nalioth> doojin: get some woody netinst floppys, and as soon as you get a root account and apt-get and network goin, change out your sources.list for breezys list. then update your apt, and dist-upgrade
[07:42] <Madpilot> doojin & kruzr: I guess Shuttleworth is paying the tab - http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[07:43] <doojin> what the fuck are you talking?
[07:43] <nalioth> doojin: watch your language please
[07:43] <doojin> my language is korean
[07:43] <kruzr> *ding*
[07:43] <doojin> south korean
[07:43] <nalioth> doojin: well in this channel "f**k" is not acceptable
[07:44] <Madpilot> doojin: http://shipit.ubuntu.com will ship you FREE Ubuntu CDs
[07:44] <nalioth> or you can use woody to help you (works every time)
[07:44] <kruzr> nalioth: is it really that simple?  I have a hard time believing something wouldn't break somewhere
[07:44] <firestorm> Hi. I'm trying to install JDK1.5 with 'sudo apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5debian' but get: Package sun-j2sdk1.5debian is not available, but is referred to by another package....Any clues?
[07:44] <kairu0> anyone else getting popping static with esd?
[07:45] <doojin> can I install through net with a floppy disk?
[07:45] <nalioth> kruzr: woody is so old, that you practically are replacing everything
[07:45] <nalioth> doojin: i just told you how
[07:45] <sn9> !tell firestorm about w32deb
[07:45] <doojin> nalioth : that's just difficult for me to understand
[07:45] <kruzr> I guess you could even do it with potato, then.
[07:45] <doojin> nalioth : are you telling me that I have to install debian first?
[07:45] <nalioth> kruzr: does potato come after sarge or before?
[07:46] <kruzr> nalioth: WAY before
[07:46] <kruzr> potato is pre-woody
[07:46] <kruzr> heh
[07:46] <nalioth> doojin: you are using the debian woody net install floppies to install a minimal debian. you need network, apt-get and a root account
[07:46] <pupil> sn9, where do I got to change the address for ltsp-build-client  ... cause the address its using fails
[07:47] <nalioth> doojin: once you get your woody debian to that state, use the breezy badger sources list, update your apt-get and dist-upgrade
[07:47] <sn9> pupil: worked for me
[07:47] <kruzr> nalioth: what about driver configuration and kernel config and such?  won't Ubuntu leave all that stuff stock-woody?
[07:47] <pupil> I: Retrieving Release
[07:47] <pupil> E: Failed getting release file http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release
[07:47] <sn9> pupil: oh, wait. no it didn't
[07:47] <nalioth> kruzr: i suspect the upgrade will be a long one as you answer questions
[07:48] <kruzr> mm
[07:48] <doojin> nalioth : that's bothering I just want a shipped cd now
[07:48] <nalioth> doojin: shipit.ubuntu.com
[07:48] <nalioth> why DONT they have a way to install from a bootable cd/
[07:49] <kruzr> er.  "they" being whom?
[07:49] <luckyman> hi, i have a problem booting with liveCD.
[07:49] <luckyman> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[07:49] <[Micro] > hi guys, i'm just going through my first ubuntu install. switching from gentoo.
[07:49] <nalioth> i mean why there is not a bootable floppy img on the cds
[07:49] <luckyman> then it stoped booting
[07:49] <sn9> pupil: it's been awhile since i did it, and i don't remember that much
[07:49] <[Micro] > can someone tell me how the default install partitions the hard drive? (i.e. swap, boot, root, etc.)
[07:49] <doojin> or jesus
[07:50] <doojin> oh jesus
[07:50] <[Micro] > debating whether to go with the default or partition manually...
[07:50] <doojin> It will take several weeks to arrive at home
[07:50] <luckyman> can anyone help me?
[07:50] <kruzr> doojin: do you live in South Korea?
[07:50] <pupil> sn9, int he howto it says I can change the mirror,. but I'm not sure what mirro to change it too
[07:50] <doojin> yes
[07:50] <doojin> I'm in south korea
[07:50] <sn9> luckyman: sounds like a hardware problem, but what does it say before that?
[07:50] <dazvid> Can someone please help with this error > http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3221
[07:50] <T_ConX> Need help!  I think I killed Sound Juicer...
[07:50] <dazvid> Not sure what the output means..
[07:51] <kruzr> doojin: isn't your country filled to overflowing with internet cafes?  burn a CD at one of those :)
[07:51] <sn9> pupil: archive.ubuntu.com probably is ok
[07:51] <tech_> asl
[07:51] <doojin> krur : oh you are smart
[07:51] <doojin> kruzr
[07:51] <pupil> sn9, would you haveppen to know where in the script to edit?
[07:51] <kruzr> I try :)
[07:51] <sn9> pupil: i don't remember anymore
[07:52] <T_ConX> can someone plz help me!  I need to fix sound juicer...
[07:52] <kruzr> well, I guess that settles that.
[07:52] <luckyman> sn9: i dont remember, i was trying it on my friend's comp....then Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! showed up, and stopped booting
[07:52] <Hobbsee> [Micro] : you dont get a /home partition if you do it automatically
[07:52] <sn9> luckyman: oh well
[07:52] <sells> tritium: hey Mike, what is going on
[07:53] <Josey> is there anyway to upgrade from vc6++ to 7 to use directx sdk updates?
[07:53] <[Micro] > Hobbsee, thanks for the info.
[07:53] <[Micro] > don't care much for one, to be honest.
[07:53] <luckyman> sn9: what can i do to make it boot?
[07:53] <[Micro] > never know how to allocate space...
[07:54] <sn9> dazvid: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and enable glx
[07:54] <Hobbsee> [Micro] : how much space you allocating?  half each or so, more for /home if you've got heaps of space
[07:54] <tapox> sn9: Sorry for the late response, but no, I didn't have any software installed for the mouse (though it is a Logitech). I noticed that Firefox drew said cursor onto the webpage itself, briefly displaying an image icon, so I don't think it's a feature of the driver.
[07:55] <[Micro] > i have 30gb. usually just set up 2gb or so swap, the rest root. in gentoo, i also had a separate small boot partition. but maybe i should consider setting up a separate home partition.
[07:55] <kruzr> hey, isn't the internet supposed to blow up soon because of that whole Level3 thing?
[07:55] <luckyman> sn9: can my problem be solved?
[07:55] <sn9> luckyman: just try it again, and maybe it'll work. check out the hardware, too
[07:55] <kruzr> in fact, wasn't that supposed to be today?
[07:55] <luckyman> sn9: ok
[07:56] <luckyman> sn9: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12928
[07:56] <luckyman> this guy has the same problem too
[07:56] <Hobbsee> [Micro] : maybe stick 13 gb / and 15 gb /home then, or take more out of / if you wanted a /boot partition
[07:56] <sn9> tapox: i know for a fact mac os x will not do that by default
[07:57] <luckyman> sn9: but he has a install cd, and mine is a liveCD
[07:57] <tapox> sn9: Yeah, it won't happen in other programs, only Firefox.
[07:57] <sn9> luckyman: you get all those numbers too?
[07:57] <aftertaf> morning campers :)
[07:58] <tapox> aftertaf, I'm this close to making a counter-strike reference, but can't put myself to do it. :-)
[07:58] <luckyman> sn9: i'm not sure...but i did get some numbers before that...dont know if they are exactly the same
[07:58] <sn9> tapox: must be a general firefox issue then
[07:58] <[Micro] > Hobbsee, thanks, I might go for something like that.
[07:58] <tapox> sn9: Okay, thanks.
[07:58] <Hobbsee> [Micro] : no problems, and it's easier if you have to reinstall, as you keep all your settings
[08:00] <aftertaf> tapox:  wazzup wit' da fox?
[08:00] <[Micro] > Hobbsee: Would you go for 1GB (apparently the default) or 2GB swap? I have 1GB physical RAM.
[08:00] <Ekibyougami> !dvd
[08:00] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[08:00] <aftertaf> do you need more than physical ram in swap any more? i heard not.
[08:01] <Hobbsee> [Micro] : could do either, you've got plenty of space to use 2 gig
[08:01] <Hobbsee> [Micro] : but you might just find that's a waste of space
[08:01] <nalioth> aftertaf: depends on how much physical ram you have
[08:01] <[Micro] > I have 2GB, but I've never really monitored how much swap space I've actually used in the past.
[08:01] <tapox> aftertaf: When you click the middle mouse button on Windows/OS X, it allows you to scroll up and down by moving the mouse, and stopping by clicking it again. Won't work in Ubuntu.
[08:02] <sn9> luckyman: i guess i'll have to wait until it happens to me before i have some idea
[08:02] <sampan> tapox, that works in konq (in kubuntu breezy) at least
[08:02] <Hobbsee> tapox: that's because middle click is used as paste generally
[08:02] <aftertaf> tapox:  ahh. works for me. maybe when you dkpg-reconfigure X you get to specify it.
[08:02] <tapox> Hobbsee: Ohhhhhhh.
[08:02] <luckyman> sn9: ok, then, thx anyways, i'll try again later
[08:02] <aftertaf> not mid click, just the scrolly wheel
[08:03] <aftertaf> nalioth:  howdy mister :)
[08:03] <T_ConX> can someone plz help me!  I need to fix sound juicer...
[08:04] <zrothe> Anyone else notice the ubuntu firefox search box?
[08:04] <zrothe> ;)
[08:05] <oficina> ho
[08:05] <zrothe> Does anyone know if libwine-dev includes libwine-alsa?
[08:06] <zrothe> or does anyone know a repository that has libwine-alsa in it?
[08:06] <PapPitufo> Madpilot: hello, I'm back. Here's what I mean http://www.feriadelagua.com/archivos/lini/kde_quick_browser.jpg
[08:07] <PapPitufo> I don't like using KDE, it is a slob on my machine. Gnome is snappier on this old fart.
[08:07] <PapPitufo> But I use the QuickBrowser a lot, and I miss the functionality
[08:08] <Razor-X> PapPitufo: use ratpoison :P
[08:08] <PapPitufo> ?
[08:09] <Razor-X> PapPitufo: it's another WM, very minimalistic though, it's not for everyone
[08:09] <esc_ape> hello
[08:09] <Razor-X> PapPitufo: if it sounds like your thing though, go ahead and try it
[08:09] <Razor-X> esc_ape: hi
[08:10] <Madpilot> PapPitufo: I get a 404 on that URL...
[08:10] <sampan> me too
[08:12] <bur[n] er> is ratpoison like Xfce?
[08:13] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: not by a long shot
[08:13] <Razor-X> that's why I said it's ``not for everyone''
[08:13] <bur[n] er> aww
[08:13] <sampan> even more minimalistic?
[08:13] <bur[n] er> PapPitufo: try Xfce?  get the xubuntu-desktop pacakge :)
[08:13] <Razor-X> XFce is excellent at what it does, but it's not truly minimalistic
[08:13] <Razor-X> sampan: yeah
[08:13] <Amaranth> ratpoison doesn't use the mouse at all for all WM functionality
[08:13] <bur[n] er> bleh
[08:13] <sampan> ouch, no mouse at all
[08:13] <Amaranth> it's like screen for X
[08:13] <bur[n] er> bleh
[08:13] <Razor-X> yeah, it is basically screen for X
[08:13] <Amaranth> but you can use the mouse for apps that you run, of course
[08:14] <bur[n] er> even fluxbox sounds more featureful
[08:14] <bur[n] er> (I guess I shouldn't say that as fluxbox is more featureful than Metacity by a long shot)
[08:14] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: but, if you're lazy like me, you'ld realize the mouse is pretty far away
[08:14] <Razor-X> my trackball is a whole foot away from the centrarl area of my keyboard
[08:14] <Amaranth> metacity is intentionally featureless
[08:14] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: still comforting for most ;)
[08:14] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: yeah, I guess :P
[08:15] <h4zn__> How can i play wma files ?
[08:15] <Razor-X> i'm abhorently lazy on the computer, the most I can do with one area, the better
[08:15] <bur[n] er> i figure if I have to tell someone about 'uberminimalistic WM X' chances are they don't want it or they'd have found it ;)
[08:15] <Razor-X> that's why if I start using the mouse, I don't want to use the keyboard again for a while
[08:15] <Madpilot> !tell h4zn__ about wma
[08:15] <Razor-X> s/most/more
[08:16] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: it doesen't look like the dark ages at all, though, I can show you a screenshot
[08:16] <aftertaf> screen for X? cool :)
[08:16] <Razor-X> and also, after an all-nighter, using the mouse cramps up my wrist
[08:16] <sampan> yes, screenshots are always good
[08:16] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: i think i'm content with gnome or Xfce ;)
[08:16] <Razor-X> aftertaf: I knew _someone_ was interested :P
[08:16] <aftertaf> loool
[08:16] <bur[n] er> http://burner.ath.cx/Screenshot.png <--my screenie as of a couple minutes ago :)
[08:16] <Razor-X> or rather, the trackball, the mouse makes my wrist double-over in pain during all-nighters
[08:17] <Razor-X> http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/ratpoison.png and http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/ratpoison-conkeror.png
[08:17] <Razor-X> I also have a picture of a split frame
[08:17] <sampan> trackball has saved my wrist from CTS big time
[08:17] <Razor-X> i'm 15, I don't want RSI already -_-
[08:17] <rempresent> okay guys, i have a jem you all have to check out
[08:18] <aftertaf> omg another kid :)
[08:18] <aftertaf> ;)
[08:18] <Madpilot> Razor-X: how can you type with that hi-contrast backdrop and a transparent terminal?
[08:18] <bur[n] er> heh, lil too minimal for me Razor-X
[08:18] <rempresent> go to: http://www.jonathancoulton.com/2005/10/14/thing-a-week-5-baby-got-back/ and download the "baby got back" cover
[08:18] <bur[n] er> can't believe you use that
[08:18] <PapPitufo> Razor-X: here is what I want to do in Gnome http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kdequickbrowser4ln.jpg
[08:18] <bur[n] er> heh
[08:18] <flozilum> could someone recommend me a decent mp3 ripping app?
[08:18] <Amaranth> rempresent: ...
[08:19] <rempresent> it is a baby got back by a folk singer
[08:19] <PapPitufo> Razor-X: you think ratpoison has that?
[08:19] <nentis> flozilum: grip
[08:19] <palki__> Hello does the newest ubuntu work on 2005 powerbooks ? I know there were issues with trackpad and sound in the last version ?
[08:19] <rempresent> it rules
[08:19] <bur[n] er> PapPitufo: i know you can do that in fluxbox
[08:19] <Amaranth> flozilum: sound juicer can rip to mp3 with a settings change
[08:19] <aftertaf> Razor-X:  dunno if im ready for that type of WM.... a bit too minimal for me.
[08:19] <nalioth> flozilum: grip
[08:19] <sn9> palki__: last i heard trackpad still doesn't work
[08:19] <flozilum> nentis: sj takes forever
[08:19] <bur[n] er> sound juicer is crap... featureless as compared with grip
[08:19] <Razor-X> Madpilot: hahahaha
[08:19] <cafuego_> palki__: Not sure, I _do_ know the 2.6.14-rc4 kernel has a specific apple trackpad kernel driver now.
[08:19] <Razor-X> Madpilot: that's not a transparent terminal :P
[08:20] <nentis> flozilum: I didn't recommend sj. :)  I said 'grip'.
[08:20] <Razor-X> Madpilot: that's a solid terminal with a background image
[08:20] <cafuego_> palki__: For what it's worth, the trackpad on the 2005 iBook works fine using the PPC LiveCD.
[08:20] <flozilum> nentis: yeah - didn't realize what i typed
[08:20] <sn9> palki__: wait for dapper drake
[08:20] <Madpilot> Razor-X: still... don't you find the text fading back into the background?
[08:20] <Razor-X> Madpilot: on occasion
[08:20] <palki__> cafuego_ thanks. that is quite promising.
[08:21] <PapPitufo> bur[n] er: fluxbox can? you sure?
[08:21] <Razor-X> Madpilot: it's not very annoying, it odes get annoying at times though
[08:21] <rlozier> jl
[08:21] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: SJ now plays and rips CDs...
[08:21] <cafuego_> palki__: The airport extreme won't work though. (But someone is working on a driver!)
[08:21] <Razor-X> Madpilot: I do my homework generally in the lower half of my screen, an IRC channel or terminal hogs my upper half
[08:21] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: still no options about bitrate
[08:21] <agt> Can someone help me with mounting a firewire iPod on Breezy?
[08:21] <bur[n] er> PapPitufo: well... i think so, it's been ages since I've used it
[08:21] <ethy> What's the command for restarting hotplug?
[08:22] <Razor-X> aftertaf: DR17 looks nice, but, it has to many quirks for me
[08:22] <flozilum> nentis: still new to ubuntu - apt-get install grip ?
[08:22] <sn9> agt: just plug it in
[08:22] <ethy> "sudo /etc/init.d/something restart" right? What's that "something"?
[08:22] <Razor-X> aftertaf: for a nice, solid, and small WM, i'll stick with XFce any day
[08:22] <rlozier> has anyone successfully installed half life 2 under breezy?
[08:22] <sn9> ethy: hotplug
[08:22] <Madpilot> Razor-X: ah, OK. I run gnome terminal semi-transparent, but had to put a greyed-out translucent layer over things to get the text readable...
[08:22] <bur[n] er> flozilum: or use synaptic
[08:22] <ethy> sn9: Ooo... haha thanks!
[08:22] <agt> sn9, its not recognised. Doesn't appear on desktop
[08:22] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: SJ is in the middle of ripping something for me, but I think it now has bitrate options
[08:22] <Razor-X> Madpilot: can't stand transparent terminals, meself :P
[08:23] <flozilum> bur[n] er: differences?
[08:23] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: i'm opening to see :)
[08:23] <sn9> agt: does it appear in the Computer window in the Places menu?
[08:23] <bur[n] er> flozilum: synaptic is a gui
[08:23] <flozilum> bur[n] er: to grip
[08:23] <Razor-X> Madpilot: nice thing about erc is that, it doesen't use anything much past the `s' in ``Vash''
[08:23] <Razor-X> Madpilot: and I use the bottom half for homework, so it all works out
[08:24] <agt> sn9, I have floppy, cd drive and filesystem showing, no ipod. the ipod also doesn't come up with the 'do not disconnect' msg
[08:24] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: no "easy" way to edit bitrate... just complicated profiles... furthermore, I can't even freeform how tracks should be named...  I like "artist - track# - song.mp3"
[08:24] <h4zn__> root@ubuntu:~ # sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:24] <h4zn__> (gedit:7693): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[08:24] <h4zn__> 0
[08:24] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: dont' be root when you type "sudo" :P
[08:25] <h4zn__> okay
[08:25] <enyc> 0000
[08:25] <sn9> agt: odd. do other firewire devices work?
[08:25] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: alt+f2 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[08:25] <flozilum> bur[n] er: got it
[08:26] <monstah> hello.. i can't get my battery monitor to work.. why does it show AC-Power when it's on battery?
[08:26] <agt> sn9, I don't have any other firewire devices. it worked in windows yesterday. it worked in hoary, not in this new install of breezy.
[08:26] <sn9> agt: does gtkpod see the ipod?
[08:27] <agt> sn9,  haven't tried that. apt-getting it now
[08:27] <h4zn__> bur[n] er, ...it says that i can not save it
[08:27] <Hmmmm> hi guys iv just installed breezy, and im facing some problem accessing the network
[08:27] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: using gksudo?
[08:27] <sn9> Hmmmm: Hmmmm
[08:27] <h4zn__> yes
[08:27] <dabaR> Hmmmm: youre gonna tell us more, right?
[08:28] <h4zn__> just like you told me
[08:28] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: was it already open?
[08:28] <h4zn__> no
[08:28] <bur[n] er> and it prompted you for password right?
[08:28] <h4zn__> yes
[08:28] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: is synaptic open?
[08:28] <agt> sn9,  '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.
[08:28] <Hmmmm> dabaR, well its a windows network
[08:28] <h4zn__> yes
[08:28] <agt> sn9,  no /media/ipod dir either
[08:28] <Hmmmm> i could access it perfectly using hoary
[08:28] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: that's yoru problem, can't edit sources.list with syaptic open unless you do it from synaptic
[08:29] <h4zn__> okay
[08:29] <Hmmmm> i can acess the network using linneighborhood, but not through nautilus
[08:29] <sn9> agt: try typing: sudo modprobe sbp-2
[08:29] <aftertaf> Hmmmm:  setup IP correctly, test ping.... then setup samba client to access the workgroup/domain
[08:29] <bur[n] er> Hmmmm: smb:/pcname work?
[08:29] <dabaR> Hmmmm: do you know what protocol you use? like DHCP?
[08:29] <aftertaf> Hmmmm:  ok.
[08:29] <dabaR> Hmmmm: you can get online?
[08:29] <Hmmmm> smb:/pcname works for some machines
[08:30] <Hmmmm> i can get online
[08:30] <agt> sn9, FATAL: Module sbp_2 not found. (!)
[08:30] <PapPitufo> bye
[08:30] <Hmmmm> i can scp/ssh/ping/bwose the web/mail...
[08:30] <Hmmmm> im on a static ip, not dhcp
[08:30] <bur[n] er> Hmmmm: and 'some' machiens have firewalls? ;)
[08:30] <sn9> agt: oops leave out the -
[08:30] <Hmmmm> aftertaf, how do i setup samba?
[08:30] <aftertaf> any blocked pcs on network?
[08:30] <Hmmmm> smb.conf?
[08:31] <brandoo> hello
[08:31] <zrothe> im trying to install a .deb package and its telling me conflicting packages...how do I find which are conflicting w/ it
[08:31] <Hmmmm> bur[n] er, no firewalls internallly
[08:31] <aftertaf> Hmmmm:  yep, or via gui in gnome.... look around in control center
[08:31] <agt> sn9, that worked, no messages back
[08:31] <aftertaf> Hmmmm:  all machines with same m$ os?
[08:31] <h4zn__> bur[n] er, ...closed it...retried and i still cant do itt
[08:31] <Hmmmm> after ok i'll take a look
[08:31] <brandoo> anyone know how to fix this?
[08:31] <brandoo> Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[08:31] <brandoo> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2".
[08:31] <sn9> agt: unplug and replug the ipod now
[08:31] <aftertaf> brandoo:  what are you compiling?
[08:32] <brandoo> vmware
[08:32] <johntramp> hey can anyone tell me how to get rid of those damn thumbs.db files?
[08:32] <aftertaf> oh, ok. no idea.
[08:32] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: try just doing "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" from a term
[08:32] <aftertaf> johntramp:  delete button ;)
[08:32] <johntramp> is there something like rm -f `find -iname thumbs.db .`
[08:32] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: no reason gksudo shouldn't work though
[08:32] <dooglus> johntramp: find -name thumbs.db | while read x; do rm "$x"; done
[08:32] <aftertaf> johntramp:  sorry, being clever ;)
[08:33] <johntramp> dooglus, thanks
[08:33] <dooglus> johntramp: your `` won't work if directories have spaces in their names, or if you have a lot of thumbs.db files
[08:33] <agt> sn9, no good
[08:33] <johntramp> aftertaf, no thanks ;)
[08:33] <aftertaf> =)
[08:33] <johntramp> dooglus, ok
[08:34] <dooglus> johntramp: see also "man xargs" if you're interested
[08:34] <dabaR> I have a 10.9 GB root partition, and home is separate. The root partition is full, which is not to be believed as proper. What can I do to clean up a little bit?
[08:34] <bimberi> brandoo: install the gcc-3.4 package, then "export CC=usr/bin/gcc-3.4" and retry the compile
[08:34] <bur[n] er> dabaR: apt-get clean
[08:35] <johntramp> dooglus, cheers.      Is there any reason it could be dangerous to run this as a cron job?
[08:35] <dooglus> johntramp: something like "find -name thumbs.db -print0 | xargs -0 rm" (but that's not tested)
[08:35] <dabaR> bur[n] er: nothing.
[08:35] <bliggy> hello... if anyone can assist me with my problem it would be much appreciated... heres a running thread with all the data: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=419029#post419029
[08:35] <dabaR> bur[n] er: so I really have that many packages installed properly?
[08:36] <Razor-X> if you use xzgv, give a shout out! :P
[08:36] <dabaR> bliggy: and for all of you in console through irssi...:P
[08:36] <sn9> agt: can you pastebin or pm me an lsmod?
[08:36] <dooglus> johntramp: the only 2 reasons I can think of are (1) it deletes files (but it's unlikely anything useful will be called thumbs.db) and (2) it slows things down (so if you're playing a game it will get choppy while the file runs)
[08:36] <Razor-X> or at least, tab-complete my name and say ``I'' :P
[08:36] <bur[n] er> dabaR: apt-get clean just cleans out the cache so to speak
[08:36] <bliggy> :D
[08:36] <bur[n] er> dabaR: df -h after doign the clean
[08:36] <dabaR> I cleaned that out myself already. Anything else? I heard about some deborphan something:)
[08:37] <Razor-X> meh, i'm alone in my tastes
[08:37] <johntramp> dooglus,  locate -i thumbs.db | while read x; do rm "$x"; done  worked a charm.  Thanks
[08:37] <rempresent> i have a broken package to fix, how do i go about doing that
[08:37] <dooglus> johntramp: it's a little slower than the xargs solution, that's all
[08:38] <agt> sn9, used the pastebin - thx
[08:38] <dooglus> johntramp: also, you're running this on a FAT partition I guess?
[08:38] <sn9> agt: url?
[08:38] <agt> sn9, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3222
[08:38] <bliggy> oops... i see i posted the wrong URL... lemme correct that
[08:39] <bliggy> hello... if anyone can assist me with my problem it would be much appreciated... heres a running thread with all the data: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76904
[08:39] <bliggy> :D
[08:39] <indypende> with breezy i have'nt to modify the esd.conf. It's true?
[08:39] <pef> hello
[08:39] <brandoo> thanks aftertaf
[08:39] <johntramp> dooglus, well I get videos etc. off mates on a external harddrive and it gets fill of those files
[08:40] <johntramp> dooglus, which is fat32, yes
[08:40] <dooglus> dabaR: how about this:  "du -kx / | sort -n | tail -100" - that will show you the 100 biggest dirs...
[08:40] <brandoo> Although it sux having to use VMWare only cos Firefox+java+Flash don't work well :/
[08:40] <sn9> agt: load the raw1394 module. if that works, put it in /etc/modules
[08:41] <indypende> with breezy i have'nt to modify the esd.conf. It's true?
[08:41] <agt> sn9, is that 'modprobe raw1394'?
[08:41] <sn9> agt: with sudo, yes
[08:42] <salutis> i am problem with evolution. i have backup of my old .evolution directory, but if i copy this folder in my new breezy my contact list is empty
[08:42] <dabaR> ubuntu-base is a metapackage?
[08:43] <Razor-X> what programs do you guys use to take screenshots?
[08:43] <Razor-X> I use xwd, any suggestions?
[08:43] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: import
[08:44] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: i've heard that's nice
[08:44] <wickedpuppy> Razor-X, System -> take screen shot ?
[08:44] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: part of ImageMagick, no?
[08:44] <Razor-X> wickedpuppy: meh :P
[08:44] <agt> sn9, right i've done a 'sudo modprobe raw1394', and i've added raw1394 to the end of modules
[08:44] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: could be, i forget, but i've used it for years
[08:44] <dooglus> dabaR: to see the files in a package, run "dpkg -L ubuntu-base"
[08:44] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: any special features it has?
[08:44] <dooglus> dabaR: you'll see that ubuntu-base is pretty much emtpy
[08:44] <dooglus> ie. a meta package
[08:44] <sn9> agt: so, it worked?
[08:45] <Coz> Hello all
[08:45] <dabaR> k
[08:45] <ubuntu_user1111> i'm looking for a visual programing software.. enyone? :}
[08:45] <dooglus> dabaR: then run "apt-cache show ubuntu-base | grep Depends" to see what it depends on.
[08:45] <Coz>  I would like to know if any of you would know how to create a keyboard shortcut to CLOSE a cd tray?
[08:45] <agt> sn9, sorry, nope. unplugging and replugging doesn't work
[08:45] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: I simply use ``xwd -root -out foo.xwd & convert foo.xwd foo.png''
[08:45] <brandoo> can someone go to a flash site for me to see if they have the same response as me?
[08:45] <dooglus> dabaR: you'll see it depends on 2 more meta-packages!
[08:46] <liable> Coz: hrm, whats the command to do it from command line?
[08:46] <sn9> agt: can you access /dev/sda ?
[08:46] <mustard5> can someone give me that sudo dpkg reconfigure command for xorg again?
[08:46] <Coz> I don'tknow the command for this trhat's why I was asking
[08:46] <mustard5> I'm on bitchx trying to get to X :D
[08:46] <sn9> mustard5: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:46] <mustard5> thanks sn9
[08:46] <liable> !drxx mustard5
[08:46] <ubotu> liable: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:47] <aftertaf> ubuntu_user1111:  eclipse
[08:47] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: import window -root blah.png
[08:47] <agt> sn9, how do i do that?
[08:47] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: or import window -root blah.jpg
[08:47] <ubuntu_user1111> ok, i'll give it a go, ty !!
[08:47] <dabaR> whats a visual programming software?
[08:47] <Coz> has oanyone gotten .mid files to play on Ubuntu?
[08:48] <sn9> agt: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null count=1
[08:48] <dooglus> Razor-X: you can just press SysRq to take a screenshot
[08:48] <dooglus> (in GNOME)
[08:48] <Coz> with what appp and what didi you do to get ito play?
[08:48] <bur[n] er> dooglus: he uses ratpoison ;)
[08:48] <bur[n] er> Coz: xmms
[08:48] <dooglus> bur[n] er: ok.
[08:48] <dooglus> ratpoison makes my pinky hurt
[08:48] <Coz> xmms does not play midi on ubuntu just by installin git
[08:49] <dooglus> control-t isn't easy to type very option
[08:49] <Coz> not on my system anyway
[08:49] <bur[n] er> Coz: let me double-check I still can in breezy
[08:49] <agt> sn9, 1+0 records in, 1+0 records out, 512 bytes t/ferred
[08:49] <Coz> I got my dvd 's to play in breezy after a week of trial and eror
[08:49] <Coz> but midi is giving a ruff time of it
[08:50] <dabaR> Is it safe to remove a 2.6 kernel image?
[08:50] <liable> !CMD: drxx (.*?) is ?1: <reply> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:50] <sn9> agt: ok. looks like it's seeing the ipod after all, unless you have other scsi or usb disks
[08:50] <bur[n] er> Coz: i can't play it either... sorry
[08:50] <liable> !hi
[08:50] <ubotu> liable: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:50] <Coz> That's what I thought
[08:50] <agt> sn9, my hard drive is a sata
[08:51] <agt> sn9, mounted on sda1
[08:51] <Coz>  DVD's do not play by default because of licensing I know that would not be the case with midi
[08:51] <liable> ubotu: CMD: drxx (.*?) is ?1: <reply> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:51] <ubotu> liable: okay
[08:51] <liable> !drxx liable
[08:51] <ubotu> liable: No idea
[08:51] <bur[n] er> Coz: i tried vlc, bmp, xmms, rhythmbox
[08:51] <sn9> agt: my mistake then. do the dd again with sdb instead of sda
[08:51] <Coz> has anyone gotten midi to play on Ubuntu?
[08:51] <agt> sn9,  no such file or dir
[08:52] <bur[n] er> Coz: have you got .mmf files to play by chance?
[08:52] <Coz> all those apps DO NOT play mdid on UBuntu there are some things missing and I am trying to find out what they are
[08:52] <sn9> agt: you don't have a /dev/sdb file?
[08:52] <aftertaf> dabaR:  yes, you tidying up? you can get rid of some... but leave one ;)     good idea to leave the latest i386 too, lets you boot on all pcs more or less if need be.
[08:52] <Coz> .mmf I am not familair with
[08:52] <agt> sn9, sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null count=1
[08:52] <agt> dd: opening `/dev/sdb': No such file or directory
[08:53] <DJ_Mirage> [08:51]  <Coz> has anyone gotten midi to play on Ubuntu?
[08:53] <DJ_Mirage> yeap
[08:53] <Coz> how did you do it?
[08:53] <DJ_Mirage> i just got all gstreamer plugs
[08:53] <bur[n] er> Coz: .mmf is just another ringtone thing... in any event, there are lots of midi apps in universe
[08:53] <Coz> I have all of them as well it still is ano go
[08:54] <sn9> agt: what does dmesg | tail say?
[08:54] <brandoo> Anyone know about the Firefox bug in Ubuntu?
[08:54] <Coz> what is the bug?
[08:54] <Burgundavia> brandoo, what Firefox bug?
[08:54] <bur[n] er> Coz: u have gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse?
[08:54] <Coz> yes I have those just installed them today actually neccessary to play dvd's
[08:55] <brandoo> Burgundavia, when I got to search in the google search thingy it keeps adding to the previous search
[08:55] <bur[n] er> not necessary for dvd ;)
[08:55] <brandoo> ie. if I search for linux
[08:55] <agt> sn9, a whole lot of ieee1394 node changed and node resumes msgs - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3223
[08:55] <Coz> OK none the less midi still won't play
[08:56] <Coz>  I have tried all the apps none work with it
[08:56] <brandoo> and then try search for butterfly it'll actually search for linux butterfly
[08:56] <Coz> VLC is generally what I prefer on all OS but even that won't do it
[08:56] <brandoo> then if I search again it'll add on and on and on
[08:56] <liable> !drxx liable
[08:56] <ubotu> liable: What?
[08:56] <liable> meh.
[08:56] <dabaR>  Lets play teach the bot in PM:P
[08:57] <lemics_> lol
[08:57] <bur[n] er> Coz: if you do find out, please let me know, i'd be interested
[08:57] <Coz> OK with me but I have been trying for week now
[08:57] <liable> dabaR: thats what i have been doing ktnx
[08:57] <bliggy> if anyone can assist me with my problem it would be much appreciated... heres a running thread with all the data: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76904
[08:58] <Coz>  after getting all the dvd elements installed I hae made a decision no to go back to BeOS
[08:58] <topyli> brandoo: is that a bug? if it looks like a usability bug to you, you should file it in the mozilla bugzilla. first check of course if there is a bug about that already
[08:58] <PhoenixDestroyed> #ubuntu channel
[08:59] <agt> sn9, I've updated that pastebin posting with the whole of dmesg
[08:59] <dabaR> liable: lets play test what we taught the bot in PM:P
[08:59] <bur[n] er> Coz: if I find out, i'll hunt ya down ;)
[08:59] <Coz> sounds good and I would truly be greateful
[08:59] <PhoenixDestroyed> Whats a good channel for a relative newbie who wans to know how to change the grub boot splash screen
[09:00] <liable> dabaR: bite me? :P
[09:00] <Coz> I have found little wrong with Ubuntu Breezy final
[09:00] <Coz> No bugs yets, no conflicts and everything works well
[09:00] <bur[n] er> Coz: check out pmidi
[09:00] <bur[n] er> it's command line, but will work :\
[09:00] <Coz> I tried that
[09:00] <topyli> brandoo: google's own search field works the same way after all, and i prefer it like that. i search for linux, and get lots of hits. then i refine my search by appending ubuntu to the search and get better results. then i add still something and so on
[09:00] <bur[n] er> didn't work fro you?!?!?
[09:00] <Coz> NOPE
[09:00] <bur[n] er> Coz: bugzilla.ubuntu.com ;)
[09:01] <Coz> I can try that
[09:01] <Coz>  I am hoping that midi is somehow related to the legal licensing issues that the dvd had
[09:01] <Coz> That's why dvd does work by defualt
[09:01] <bur[n] er> Coz: tried timidity?
[09:01] <Coz>  but midi, I am not sure
[09:02] <Coz> timidity yes tried that also
[09:02] <mustard5> when firestarter is running without a gui, (starts on dial-out setting on), how can I check if it is running via the command line?
[09:02] <bur[n] er> even still, there should be a gstreamer plugin for midi or something
[09:02] <PhoenixDestroyed> Anyone have any idea's on how to change the grub splash screen
[09:02] <sampan> mustard5  ps -aux | grep firestarter  ?
[09:02] <Coz> seems that way but which one is the question if it is that
[09:02] <mustard5> thanx sampan
[09:02] <dabaR> PhoenixDestroyed: there is a wiki page on that.
[09:02] <mustard5> ill try
[09:02] <sampan> sure :)  had to do that myself many times ;)
[09:02] <bur[n] er> https://launchpad.net/bounties/gstreamer-midi  <--looks like midi is sought after ;)
[09:03] <Coz> i am seeing that alot of you have problems with this Ubuntu
[09:03] <topyli> mustard5: it's not running. it just applies the firewall rules at startup and exits.
[09:03] <Coz> are you guys upgrading or something?
[09:03] <sn9> agt: did you boot with the ipod plugged in by any chance?
[09:03] <topyli> mustard5: you can check your firewall by running iptables -L
[09:03] <agt> sn9, yep
[09:03] <calvin_> what is the command line to install a bin file?
[09:04] <liable> calvin_: err what bin file?
[09:04] <sampan> topyli, you sure?  i have mine set to put an icon in my system tray, and it's running as a process
[09:04] <sn9> agt: that could be the problem. to recover, unplug it, unload the sbp2 module, and reload the sbp2 module
[09:04] <calvin_> it's java that I downloaded for my browser
[09:04] <mustard5> thanks topyli
[09:04] <topyli> sampan: well yes, the gui is a process. the firewall is not
[09:04] <Coz> I am going to se if I can find something on the net about midi and Ubuntu Be back
[09:05] <sampan> well there are two entries (besides the grep process) when i do that ps -aux | grep firestarter
[09:05] <Xyc0> Anyone figure out a quick way to install Java and Azureus
[09:06] <Xyc0> On breezy i mean
[09:06] <calvin_> liable: it's a file I downloaded to install java
[09:06] <liable> !java
[09:06] <ubotu> methinks java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[09:06] <liable> Xyc0: calvin_ ^^
[09:06] <mustard5> topyli, well that explains why I could never find it via system monitor :)
[09:07] <DemisM> what are the main differences between edubuntu and ubuntu?
[09:07] <topyli> sampan: i have none. when i do iptables -L i see the firewall rules i have set with firestarter
[09:07] <agt> sn9, OK I did a 'sudo modprobe -r sbp2' and then a 'sudo modprobe sbp2', both with iPod unplugged. then plugged it in again but no luck...
[09:08] <mustard5> sampan your command gave me an error and some output about firestarter afterwards, which I didnt know how to interpret..if you hop in #flood I'll paste the lines if you want
[09:08] <sampan> topyli, hmmmm ... i wonder what that second process is?  lol -- i must say, i always wondered the same thing as topyli -- at least, before i had it bring up the icon in the tray
[09:08] <DemisM> does ubuntu still come without any of the video/mp3 support?
[09:08] <topyli> sampan: you see, normally linux firewalls are set with a startup script and that's it. the gui thingies are a fairly recent invention to soothe the minds of windows refugees who are used to seeing their "firewalls" :)
[09:09] <sampan> lol i plead guilty to being a refugee! ;x  though, i do like to see the hits just out of a sick sense of amusement
[09:09] <topyli> sampan: after all, it's just a set of rules for the kernel netfilter
[09:10] <topyli> sampan: normally wee look at the logs and grep for suspicious hits from the previous hour/day/week
[09:11] <dabaR> Does anyone like what the default breezy usplash looks like?
[09:11] <sampan> *nod* -- i guess i just waste time by looking at the silly icon flashing red every time one comes in; instead of looking at text logs
[09:11] <sampan> eye candy attraction again i suppose
[09:11] <dooglus> topyli: are you familiar with 'fragrouter -M2'?  can it really defeat the Linux firewall?
[09:12] <topyli> sampan: it's red constantly isn't it :)
[09:12] <topyli> dooglus: no, i don't know it
[09:12] <rempresent> this is really weird, i can't get the backport repositories to clear, it says that i can't download or sync up the packages?
[09:12] <bliggy> [spam] if anyone can assist me with my problem it would be much appreciated... heres a running thread with all the data: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76904[/spam] 
[09:12] <dooglus> topyli: fragrouter is in universe
[09:12] <topyli> looking at the man page
[09:12] <dooglus> topyli: apparently it breaks packets up into little packets so the firewall doesn't notice them (?!)
[09:13] <sn9> agt: have you tried forced disk mode?
[09:13] <rempresent> anyone else have this problem with the backports, do i need to get an authentic key
[09:14] <agt> sn9, hmmm whats that
[09:14] <Madpilot> rempresent: which backports?
[09:14] <Sirrush> Hello Everyone
[09:14] <sampan> topyli, yeah pretty much!  one time last week i must have been assigned an ip that someone had just been bittorrenting with -- holy crap, like 3000 hits per hour all on 6681
[09:14] <sampan> err 6881*
[09:14] <sn9> agt: that's when you first reset by holding play/pause for 3 secs and then hold rewind and ff together for 15 secs
[09:15] <bbj> Help please - Where is information about how to play mpeg files?  Clicking on one brings up "Totem media player" error "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, install plugins", but the help file has no info about installing plugins.
[09:15] <topyli> dooglus: seems to me it's more about fooling detection tools like snort. if you have no open ports, then you don't. if you open a port for a service, then it'
[09:15] <topyli> s open. simple as that
[09:15] <agabus> i wish to multi-boot ubuntu and xp on my new laptop. could someone please advise me whether to install linux or windows first? and how to partition properly?
[09:15] <marlijs> howto install nvidia driver for k7 kernel in breezy?
[09:16] <aftertaf> marlijs:  install the linux-restricted-modules-k7 package, then change x driver to nvidia and restart X
[09:16] <topyli> dooglus: anyway, firewall is not something to rely on for security. just keep your system, especially services, up to date
[09:16] <sampan> so topyli, firestarter is set to come up on boot or right after my pppoe connection is established.  if (hypothetically) it failed, would sudo iptables -L give no output?
[09:16] <kestas> agabus, install windows first, use about 2/3 the hdd
[09:16] <kestas> agabus, then install ubuntu, use 1 gb for swap and the rest for the root partition
[09:17] <sampan> i guess i'm just paranoid about -knowing- that it's running (again, probably due to my windwos experience of being so vulnerable)
[09:17] <marlijs> this is what I did, and it broked X
[09:17] <topyli> sampan: that's right. or perhaps it would say something like ACCEPT (ALL) (ALL) or something, i don't remember iptables syntax
[09:17] <Sirrush> Windows first Ubuntu is very dual boot friendly
[09:17] <agabus> kestas - how do u suggest i go about using 2/3 of my hdd for windows? partition magic? and when installing ubuntu how do i set the 1 gig for swap?
[09:17] <agt> sn9, have done that now while the ipod is plugged in, i'm in diskmode but it says ok to disconnect
[09:17] <sampan> topyli, k -- thanks a bunch :)  that has cleared up a lot of confusion for me
[09:17] <aftertaf> marlijs:  what is the error when x fails?
[09:17] <dooglus> topyli: I guess also it's for defeating ip based filters.  what if I have the sshd port open, but only for 1 ip address.
[09:17] <kestas> agabus, when installing windows you can select how much of the hdd you want to use
[09:18] <kestas> agabus, and the same with ubuntu
[09:18] <marlijs> nvidia driver and x has different versions
[09:18] <sn9> agt: now try unloading and reloading sbp2
[09:18] <topyli> sampan: just turned off my firewall and it reports an all-accept policy quite clearly
[09:18] <Xyc0> Just so you know, the Restricted format page is outdated for breezy
[09:18] <aftertaf> marlijs:  did you install the right restricted package? and did you remove the NVIDIA binaries (if installed with sh NVIDIAXX.XX.XX.run ?)
[09:19] <sampan> topyli, excellent -- that's easy to check then and i can remove that little red button that proves such a time waster!
[09:19] <guillem101> hi! can I upgrade to horay but without upgrading to gcc-4?
[09:19] <rempresent> the repositories that come with ubuntu, i can't install regular dvd codecs, from the wiki faq
[09:19] <bbj> How are plugins installed for mpeg video for totem meda player?
[09:19] <aftertaf> marlijs:  is this an upgrade from hoary?
[09:19] <rempresent> they say to get two packages, and it is like gstreamer-multi and msttcorefonts, i can't get either of those
[09:19] <guillem101> sorry, I meant breezy :-P
[09:19] <sn9> bbj: pkg name is gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:19] <rempresent> i think it is because i don't have multiverse
[09:19] <marlijs> aftertaf:  yes upgr. from hoary, and package was right
[09:19] <aftertaf> !multiverse
[09:19] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[09:19] <dooglus> sampan: the firewall doesn't really "run" in the sense that windows firewalls run.  you set it up and leave it.
[09:20] <aftertaf> !tell rempresent about repositories
[09:20] <agt> sn9, no good - unplugged ipod, unloaded and reloaded, and plugged in, no recognition :|
[09:20] <sn9> agt: is it still in disk mode?
[09:20] <aftertaf> marlijs:  did you use the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website before your upgrade?
[09:20] <Dano> Hi, i want some tip on a good sip client for ubuntu..
[09:20] <agt> sn9, I installed ubuntu with the iPod plugged in the whole time, could that cause any problems?
[09:20] <ethy> I'm experiencing stuttering when using playing WMV files, I have the w32codecs and using Mplayer, anybody have any idea on the fix?
[09:20] <agt> sn9, yes still in disk mode with a big tick
[09:20] <sn9> agt: unlikely
[09:20] <SpiderMan> has anybody done the upgrade from hoary to breezy ?
[09:20] <dooglus> ethy: use OSS instead of ALSA?
[09:21] <marlijs> aftertaf: no, just nvidia-glx
[09:21] <dooglus> ethy: ie. mplayer -ao oss <file>
[09:21] <sn9> agt: but it says OK to disconnect?
[09:21] <agt> Yeah
[09:21] <marlijs> aftertaf: does nvidia-glx package work with k7 kernel either?
[09:22] <aftertaf> marlijs:  ok.... you have linux-k7 package instaled?
[09:22] <bbj> sn9: Thanks
[09:22] <agt> sn9, yes it says ok to disconnect
[09:22] <salutis> i am problem with evolution. i have backup of my old .evolution directory, but if i copy this my home folder in my new breezy installation my contact list is empty
[09:22] <marlijs> aftertaf: yes
[09:22] <sampan> dooglus, yeah that's what i'm finally understanding -- although, having the gui running does let me change policy very easily on the fly -- but it's not hard to run the GUI for firestarter when i need to do that
[09:22] <topyli> dooglus: about the host-specific port opening i don't know. i open ssh to the world. who knows where i'm at when i want to log on? :)
[09:22] <ethy> dooglus: Woot, that fixed it, thanks a bunch!
[09:23] <sn9> agt: and unloading and reloading with it plugged in didn't help?
[09:23] <dooglus> ethy: weird, isn't it.
[09:23] <aftertaf> marlijs:  type this in console::    sudo apt-get install  linux-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k7     does it actually install anything?
[09:23] <dooglus> ethy: the problem is, if I use OSS instead of ALSA, only one program can play sound at once - so I no longer hear mail alerts, or gaim alerts
[09:23] <agt> sn9, that didn't help either
[09:24] <firestorm> Howdy. When I run apt-get update I need to have my http_proxy env variable set. I have this in /etc/profile but that isn't sourced upon startup. Any hints as to how I should tell apt to use my http_proxy or otherwise get /etc/profile sourced on startup?
[09:24] <dooglus> aftertaf: linux-k7 depends on linux-restricted-modules-k7 anyway
[09:24] <nnonix> sampan: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/faq.php#trayicon
[09:24] <marlijs> aftertaf: i have them already? But the qusetion is if I will make clean breezy install, does nvidia-glx will work with k7 kernel?
[09:25] <ethy> dooglus: Ooo... well I have my GAIM prompt sound disabled and uninstalled Evolution since I only use web-based mail. I've had the problem for a while now, never tend to it since I was trying to fix bigger problems, never knew it's just change the codec.
[09:25] <sn9> agt: try rebooting with the ipod plugged in and in disk mode
[09:25] <agt> sn9, OK. Thanks man
[09:25] <ethy> dooglus: I had the same problem with video not be able to resize, e.g. when I try to double the screen size, only the window doubles instead of the picture, fixed that with change the codec to XV.
[09:25] <dooglus> firestorm: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh is sourced at boot time
[09:26] <sampan> nnonix, yep -- that's the process i was seeing -- but i always assumed that if i didn't have that process (the GUI/icon) running that the firewall had stopped, which it had, but it had done its job already
[09:26] <dooglus> ethy: it's not a codec change, it's a sound system change
[09:26] <sampan> if i need to change policy, i can just start it from the cli
[09:26] <dooglus> ethy: right.  i use xv too
[09:26] <ethy> dooglus: Ah.
[09:26] <firestorm> dooglus: thanks
[09:27] <dooglus> firestorm: but... you can set a proxy using system->admin->network-proxy
[09:27] <ethy> dooglus: What's the IEC958 switch in the Volume Control does?
[09:27] <nnonix> sampan: great. Additionally, the icon turns red when events have occurred. Nice indicator of blocked activity.
[09:27] <dooglus> sorry.  system->prefs->network-proxy
[09:27] <dooglus> ethy: I don't know
[09:28] <aftertaf> marlijs:  yes it works ok.....
[09:28] <locomorto> Does anyone know if the OO2 rc3 download (for linux of course) is a rpm?
[09:28] <sampan> nnonix, yep -- it's mesmerizing how often that little guy lights up :X
[09:28] <firestorm> dougsko: where is hte 'system' menu? within synaptic or a gnome thing?
[09:28] <agt> sn9, ubuntu recognises it :)
[09:28] <firestorm> Also, how can I disable the annoying beep for my terminals? I tried 'set nobeep' but that didn't seem to work
[09:28] <ethy> dooglus: Ah okay. Hm... you happen to know how do I check if my DirectDraw is working properly?
[09:28] <stimpie> how do I enable mp3 support on ubuntu x86_64?
[09:29] <dooglus> firestorm: in GNOME, the system menu is in the top left corner
[09:29] <firestorm> dooglus: ahhh...using KDE :)
[09:29] <dooglus> ethy: nope :)
[09:30] <dooglus> firestorm: the command is 'gnome-network-preferences' - but I don't know if that will work in KDE...
[09:30] <ethy> dooglus: Haha well thanks for your help!
[09:30] <_native_> The  Gnome networking applet should write its setttings to resolv.conf right?
[09:31] <dooglus> _native_: /etc/network/interfaces I think?
[09:31] <firestorm> dooglus: yup that works..thanks :)
[09:32] <_native_> because when changing the gateway address it does not take effect i have to edit resolv.conf manually. this started today.
[09:33] <SpiderMan> has anybody done the upgrade from hoary to breezy ?
[09:33] <dooglus> SpiderMan: lots of people, yes
[09:33] <aftertaf> SpiderMan:  loads of us
[09:33] <firestorm> SpiderMan: yup did it on 2 machines...one was reasonably smooth, the other had X11 break badly
[09:33] <_native_> or i mean the nameserver address in resolv.conf does not get updated when using the gnome networking applet
[09:33] <firestorm> how can I disable the annoying beep for my terminals? I tried 'set nobeep' but that didn't seem to work
[09:34] <dooglus> firestorm: what kind of terminals?
[09:34] <aftertaf> _native_:  try : sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:34] <minuscipher> ok im a total noob to linux
[09:34] <firestorm> dooglus: xterm and konsole
[09:34] <dlf> is there a locate util in ubuntu, i need to set my to swedish
[09:34] <minuscipher> can anyone tell me how to install a progran
[09:34] <dooglus> firestorm: for konsole you might try asking in #kubuntu
[09:34] <minuscipher> prgram*
[09:34] <aftertaf> minuscipher:  apt-get, or synaptic
[09:34] <_native_> i have restarted
[09:34] <flozilum> looking for a codec package... any recommendations?
[09:34] <minuscipher> whats that?
[09:35] <_native_> the applet seems to have stoped functioning as intended
[09:35] <minuscipher> im sorry
[09:35] <aftertaf> minuscipher:  system menu>synaptic package manager
[09:35] <dooglus> firestorm: for xterm, hold control and press middle-mouse-button - there's a menu to select 'visual bell'
[09:35] <minuscipher> i dont know much
[09:35] <sn9> dlf: you need to regenerate the locales and edit /etc/environment
[09:35] <salutis> i am problem with evolution. i have backup of my old .evolution directory, but if i copy this my home folder in my new breezy installation my contact list is empty
[09:35] <stimpie> someone knows howto to create a 32bit chrooit on amd64?
[09:35] <sampan> minuscipher  in konsole, go to settings --> bell --> none
[09:35] <firestorm> dooglus: thanks again :)
[09:35] <Spear> hi !
[09:35] <_native_> i had to edit resolv.conf by hand to get the proper nameserer address set back to what it was.
[09:36] <dlf> sn9 how do i do that
[09:36] <nnonix> hello !
[09:36] <dooglus> firestorm: xterm also has a "-vb" option, to set "visual bell"
[09:36] <sampan> minuscipher  settings is in the menubar -- if it's not there, try right clicking in the konsole window
[09:36] <dlf> sn9 i just need loadkeys se-lat6
[09:36] <dlf> sn9 the system should be english
[09:36] <sampan> ooops, doh, that was for firestorm
[09:36] <Spear> i lost my " root terminal " from my gnome menu and can't manage to find what the shortcut exactly is to start a root terminal :) ... does anybody know ?
[09:36] <sn9> dlf: oh. i thought you meant the other way around
[09:37] <verde1> hi
[09:37] <aftertaf> Spear:  srat a normal one and type su -
[09:37] <dlf> sn9 so is it possible to get swedish keyset from boot
[09:37] <sn9> dlf: in console or gnome?
[09:37] <minuscipher> i dont see no command window
[09:37] <dlf> sn9 this linux installation is just for my school project
[09:38] <dlf> sn9 gnome and console
[09:38] <sn9> dlf: i've never tried changing console layout, but gnome has some settings in the menu
[09:38] <dooglus> firestorm: actually, I don't hear any beeps from xterm at all - I must have turned off the beeper somehow.  I don't see it flash either.  Not sure what I've done.  Maybe the hardware beeper is broken?
[09:38] <_native_> etc/network/interfaces was fine.
[09:39] <_native_> ill keep testing to make sure that this is a bug but i know that the behaviour has changed.
[09:39] <sn9> dlf: when you first install, it should ask you which keyboard you have
[09:39] <dlf> sn9  yes its working
[09:39] <Spear> aftertaf,  always typing su is boring when you have to do a lot of technical things
[09:40] <firestorm> dooglus: i feel like breaking mine :P
[09:40] <dlf> sn9 sure did but im in a closed novell network so i cant download from the install
[09:40] <dooglus> firestorm: I just tried in a virtual console - it's silent there too
[09:40] <aftertaf> Spear:  technical things can be boring when you'd rather be curled up in bed with a beautiful woman, but i cant help that ;P
[09:41] <dlf> sn9 thank you..
[09:41] <minuscipher> yeah i dont see anythinh
[09:41] <dmlinux> !customshorcuts
[09:41] <ubotu> No idea, dmlinux
[09:41] <dmlinux> !tell dmlinux about customshortcuts
[09:41] <nnonix> spea: open a terminal and look at the prompt, then type sudo -s and look at the prompt again.
[09:42] <dlf> and to my other question.. where to find good help with proftpd... i just need a few users and a anonymous account with diffrent root folder
[09:42] <verde1> hi
[09:42] <bluefrog> hi all
[09:42] <kairu0> yo
[09:42] <Spear> thanks nnonix  !
[09:42] <ethy> Anybody here have experience with Cedega?
[09:42] <nnonix> spear: np
[09:43] <dooglus> firestorm: did you try "xset -b"?  that turns the bell off
[09:43] <Xyc0> What type of Azureus installs on Ubuntu, GTK or Motif?
[09:43] <bluefrog> could anyone give me a hand on dhcp. am at a loss to make it work. telling me it's not configured to listen on an interface but as far as i know it is.
[09:43] <ethy> Xyc0: If you are using GNOME then Gtk.
[09:43] <Xyc0> ethy: Thanks
[09:44] <firestorm> dooglus: that worked! thanks
[09:44] <bigfoot1> i just upgraded from hoary to breezy. On my menu, There are some programs that  won't work anymore. Something like, "Cannot launch entry. Details: Failed to execute child process "kiax" (No such file or directory)." Why can't kiax work? How do I get rid of all these un-usable icons/shortcuts? Do i need to use debfoster, sudo clean or sudo autoclean? OR something else?
[09:45] <dooglus> firestorm: welcome.  anything else?
[09:45] <minuscipher> can anyone please tell me how to install basic things
[09:45] <ethy> Xyc0: If you are using Breezy, have a look here "http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75272".
[09:45] <firestorm> dooglus: nope that is all for now :)  bye
[09:45] <bigfoot1> minuscipher: use synaptic
[09:45] <bigfoot1> minuscipher: or click on "add applications" on your menu.
[09:45] <dooglus> "sudo apt-get install bwbasic yabasic"
[09:46] <helloyo> !restricted
[09:46] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:46] <volvoguy> hey all, i found an app that saved all the data off my dying drive. i'm now getting ready to send the drive back for a replacement and want to make sure it's as wiped as possible. any pointers on the best way to do that?
[09:46] <minuscipher> ok add apts is on
[09:46] <frank23> volvoguy: in the ultimate boot cd there are wiping tools to do this
[09:47] <volvoguy> frank23, excellent. i'll grab it now. thanks. :o)
[09:47] <helloyo> i have just switched back to hoary (fresh install), where do i get java from these days?
[09:47] <agt> sn9, Thanks for your help re iPod, works fine now whether under forced disk mode or not. Cheers :)
[09:47] <Xyc0> ethy: Thanks, ill try that
[09:47] <bluefrog-10> hi all
[09:47] <giany911> hy
[09:48] <dooglus> volvoguy: get a package called "wipe" - and run a program called "wipe".  it - um - wipes things :)
[09:48] <sn9> !tell helloyo about w32deb
[09:48] <bluefrog-10> anyone could help me on breezy and dhcp pls?
[09:48] <helloyo> thanks sn9!
[09:48] <volvoguy> dooglus, :-)
[09:48] <salutis> i am problem with evolution. i have backup of my old .evolution directory, but if i copy this my home folder in my new breezy installation my contact list is empty
[09:48] <bigfoot1> does anybody know why my kiax program can't work anymore in breezy? I could use it in hoary? It's in synaptic, but when I try to re-install kiax, it says,"Package kiax has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list." What must I do?
[09:48] <bigfoot1> correction. I could use it in hoary.
[09:49] <volvoguy> dooglus, just a bunch of one's and zero's is probably fine. there's no real sensitive data on there.
[09:49] <sn9> bigfoot1: you need to reenable your repositories
[09:49] <OrgulloKmoore> Heyy...this is my first time using ubuntu
[09:50] <OrgulloKmoore> How do I get the sound running?
[09:50] <dooglus> volvoguy: read the 'wipe' man page.  it includes the term "rising totalitarianism"
[09:50] <sn9> OrgulloKmoore: which soundcard
[09:50] <volvoguy> dooglus, ok.
[09:50] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, the brand is Media (I think)
[09:50] <OrgulloKmoore> I also have a Catalina Turtle Beach
[09:51] <sn9> OrgulloKmoore: you have 2 soundcards? why?
[09:51] <bigfoot1> sn9, how do i do that? I think I remember: it's a kde application. which repo must i enable? sorry.
[09:51] <dooglus> volvoguy: the author of wipe clearly thinks that his hard-disks are working against him.
[09:51] <sn9> bigfoot1: enable them all except backports
[09:51] <sn9> !tell bigfoot1 about repos
[09:51] <bigfoot1> sn9, where's my sources list?
[09:51] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, because...I actually have three
[09:52] <volvoguy> dooglus, i've met people like that. i know one guy that takes old drives apart and melts 'em to dispose of them.
[09:52] <OrgulloKmoore> but I only need one to work
[09:52] <_native_> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:52] <sn9> OrgulloKmoore: which one would you like to work?
[09:52] <bigfoot1> _native_: thanks!
[09:52] <dooglus> volvoguy: my Dad took an electric drill to his last PC's hard-disk before throwing it out!
[09:52] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, the Media one, I suppose
[09:52] <OrgulloKmoore> it's the one that worked best in Debian
[09:52] <aftertaf> loool
[09:52] <_native_> lol
[09:52] <brownie17> what is CUPS and how can i use it to enable my printer that is not supported by drivers?
[09:53] <Yalla-One> Hi all!  I'm am considering migrating to Ubuntu as it seems to have all hardware drivers etc built-in for easy functionality. My question is what kind of performance penalties this comes with? I'm not into starting a flame war, and am prepared to take a small performance hit to get simplicity. Is this the case with Ubuntu?
[09:53] <aftertaf> Yalla-One:  works like a dream (tm)
[09:53] <OrgulloKmoore> I used the alsaconf command...but I don't think that exists in ubuntu
[09:53] <sn9> OrgulloKmoore: what does lspci say about that card?
[09:53] <volvoguy> dooglus, then there's my uncle who does his bills and taxes on his computer and puts it out on the curb every time he gets a virus he can't fix. *rolls eyes*
[09:53] <aftertaf> Yalla-One:  its debian based, so easy to get what you want, and nothing more.
[09:53] <ethy> Yalla-One: Which distro are you running on now? And what's your computer's specification?
[09:53] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, 0000:02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[09:53] <liable> Yalla-One: you can still use a lightweight wm with ubuntu.
[09:54] <dooglus> volvoguy: "The best way  to sanitize a storage medium  is to subject it to  temperatures exceeding 1500K.   As a  cheap alternative, you might  use wipe at  your own risk."
[09:54] <brownie17> aftertaf, what do you know about "CUPS"?
[09:54] <bigfoot1> sn9, i think i have many repos already enabled . See my sources.list at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3225, if you please.
[09:54] <nnonix> bluefoxicy: What's the problem?
[09:54] <Yalla-One> ethy, I'm running a slimmed-down version of Slackware 10.2 on a Pentium-M laptop w/512MB RAM (no problems) and a Pentium-III laptop with 96MB RAM
[09:54] <helloyo> am i the only person to go back to hoary?
[09:54] <nnonix> whoops, damn nick completion.
[09:54] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, alternatively: 0000:02:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy2
[09:54] <volvoguy> dooglus, i think throwing it in the pond in my backyard might take care of it too. what do i know though? :-)
[09:54] <aftertaf> brownie17:  not much, just that it works for the network printers we have here on my laptop.
[09:54] <OrgulloKmoore> the second one is the turtle, I believe
[09:54] <brownie17> aftertaf, ok
[09:55] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: what's up with your dhcp?
[09:55] <aftertaf> Yalla-One:  im on a p3 500, but i have 256M ram
[09:55] <sn9> OrgulloKmoore: did you modprobe snd-cmipci ?
[09:55] <Yalla-One> aftertaf, Soit doesn't do any additional drivers/daemons etc which requires CPU cycles or memory compared to others?
[09:55] <bluefrog-10> not listenning on any interface but as far as i know it is
[09:55] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, nope
[09:55] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: and what exactly are you attempting to do when it says that?
[09:55] <aftertaf> Yalla-One:  not really, and the extrastuff that runs, you can stop easily thx to init.d scripts
[09:55] <bliggy> if anyone could help me with my vid issue it would be greatly appreciated here... all the data so far is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76904
[09:55] <bigfoot1> can someone take a look at my sourecs list (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3225) and tell me what do i need to do in order to enable everything but backports?
[09:56] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, what should I be doing?
[09:56] <bluefrog-10> trying to start dhcp server
[09:56] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, I'm gonna send you a PM, k?
[09:56] <ethy> Yalla-One: Then you'll have no problem using Ubuntu, Ubuntu 5.10 works "out-of-the-box" for me, I'm running on Dell 600m (Pentium M 1.3Ghz, ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 64MB, 512MB @ 266MHz). I just started to use Linux 10 days ago and Ubuntu is my first distro, I'm already getting a hang at it. Since you've used Slackware you'll have no problem getting around in Ubuntu.
[09:56] <volvoguy> dooglus, i do agree with the first sentence of his description though. i threw dozens of linux and windows of programs at this drive that couldn't read a thing and finally found one that read every bit of data on the drive. quite amazing.
[09:56] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: which package did you install?
[09:56] <Xyc0> bigfoot1: did you add multiverse to the end of all the binary links?
[09:56] <bluefrog-10> dhcp3-server
[09:56] <dooglus> volvoguy: what eventually worked for you?
[09:57] <Yalla-One> ethy, Sounds great... I switched from SuSE 9.2 to Slacware and found my computer got 10 times faster, so I was a bit concerned, but will give it a try and report back here :)
[09:57] <volvoguy> a windows app called Phoenix Linux Data Recovery by Stellar Info Systems.
[09:57] <rempresent> what is the fastest way to display your IP in the terminal
[09:57] <sn9> bigfoot1: uncomment the deb-src lines, but other than that, should be fine
[09:58] <dmlinux> What do i have to install to get DVDs to play with totem ? Xine??
[09:58] <volvoguy> dooglus, $80 was a small price to pay for 300Gb worth of data!
[09:58] <ethy> Yalla-One: I find GNOME tend to be slow at times, but you can always run a minimistic (sp?) GUI to speed things up, however I'm not at that level yet. =P
[09:58] <aftertaf> rempresent:  type ifconfig
[09:58] <bigfoot1> sn9, do you think lines 1 and 17 are redundant, and working against me?
[09:58] <giany911> can i install a .deb under ubuntu ?
[09:58] <Yalla-One> ethy, I've got my family on KDE and I'm running fluxbox myself...
[09:58] <Yalla-One> ethy, It's just a matter of habit :)
[09:58] <aftertaf> ethy, Yalla-One kde runs great and i find it faster than gbome on lowend pcs. or there is xfce/e17
[09:58] <Marko> giany911:  yeah with dpkg -i deb name
[09:58] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: did you modify your dhcpd.conf?
[09:58] <sn9> bigfoot1: they are not
[09:59] <giany911> thx
[09:59] <bigfoot1> sn9, so i need both lines?
[09:59] <dmlinux> What do i have to install to get DVDs to play with totem ? Xine??
[09:59] <bigfoot1> sn9, are you saying that i got kiax from source?
[09:59] <agt> dmlinux, try 'sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2'
[09:59] <dooglus> volvoguy: thanks.  you never know when such information might be handy.
[09:59] <volvoguy> dooglus, this wipe guy scares me. this isn't going to secretly going to wipe data i want is it? ;-)
[09:59] <sn9> bigfoot1: you need both lines
[10:00] <xukun> anybody have a working skype on breezy?
[10:00] <dooglus> volvoguy: he sounds to me like he's just wanting to make absolutely sure you don't sue him in the unlikely event that there's a bug in his program
[10:00] <dmlinux> agt no installation candidate it says
[10:00] <bluefrog-10> dhcp.conf is configured as it is on FC4 where it is working. /etc/default/dhcp... has interface=eth0, made a ln-s /etc/dhcp3/dhcp.conf in etc just in case.
[10:00] <volvoguy> dooglus, i highly recommend it. it worked flawlessly and they even let me keep the more expensive physical media they accidentally shipped me. good people.
[10:00] <bigfoot1> xukun: i do.
[10:00] <dmlinux> agt i remember installing xine on my last distro install,
[10:00] <agt> dmlinux, I got that from http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback - read the bit about enabling extra repositories
[10:01] <bigfoot1> xukun: i think i got skype from seveas's repo
[10:01] <xukun> bigfoot1, would mine telling me how
[10:01] <xukun> aah okl
[10:01] <dooglus> volvoguy: it's funny that the only 'disk rescue' program you found that worked with your linux filesystems is a windows program!
[10:01] <giany911> oops
[10:01] <sn9> !tell agt about ubuntuguide
[10:01] <xukun> Seveas, are u here
[10:01] <Marko> How long should I have to wait until mail-notification gets updated to 2.0 in the universe repository?
[10:01] <bigfoot1> xukun: yes seveas is shere
[10:01] <dooglus> xukun: I have a working skype on breezy
[10:02] <volvoguy> dooglus, ironically, most of the data recovery software i found was windows only - even if it was for rescuing linux or mac filesystems. *shrug*
[10:02] <agt> !faq
[10:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[10:02] <giany911> when i try to install with dpkg -i i get  dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[10:02] <xukun> Seveas, can u help me installing skype on my system?
[10:02] <bluefrog-10> have no dns server working but that shouldn't make a difference, should it?
[10:02] <Marko> and if I install my own .deb package of a file, and there is a new version in the repositories, will it overwrite my ipkg installed file?
[10:02] <xukun> dooglus, how?
[10:02] <giany911> marko
[10:02] <bigfoot1> xukun: actually, seveas didn't help me out with that. somebody else in this chatroom told me about the url for his repository
[10:03] <dooglus> xukun: I went to skype.com, downloaded it and installed it...
[10:03] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: I believe it should be at /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[10:03] <volvoguy> dooglus, have you used wipe? he suggests not wiping a whole disk (/dev/hdc), but a partition, so you don't kill an MBR. this is just a data drive though.
[10:03] <xukun> dooglus, that doesnt work for me?
[10:03] <xukun> bigfoot1, hmm
[10:03] <dlf> howto's 4 proftpd? anyone?
[10:03] <xukun> bigfoot1, do you know the url?
[10:03] <bluefrog-10> it is i just forgot the d when i typed here
[10:03] <dlf> not the www.proftpd.org samples or man proftpd
[10:04] <bigfoot1> xukun, i'm sorry i forgot.
[10:04] <dooglus> xukun: I used this download: http://skype.com/go/getskype-linux-static
[10:04] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: dhcpd.conf rather than dhcp.conf
[10:04] <bigfoot1> xukun: try the thing dooglus shared.
[10:04] <bluefrog-10> it is already
[10:04] <xukun> shure
[10:04] <bigfoot1> guys, i just edited my sources.list. what command shoudl i run?
[10:04] <dooglus> xukun: it's the "Static binary tar.bz2 with Qt 3.2 compiled in" version (since I use gnome and don't want to install the smelly Qt libraries centrally)
[10:05] <ethy> bigfft1: sudo apt-get update
[10:05] <Sonderblade> why isn't there a "gcc" program in breezy?
[10:05] <Marko> bigfoot1: you can run apt-get update or just open up synaptic and hit the update button
[10:05] <sn9> Sonderblade: there is
[10:05] <_native_> i use the address of my router for the nameserver address because im using NAT the router handles the forwarding to my service providers nameserver
[10:05] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: DNS won't matter, its just handing out addresses
[10:05] <dooglus> Sonderblade: you need to install it.  install "build-essential" to get a bunch of build tools, or just install 'gcc' if that's all you need
[10:05] <bigfoot1> dooglus: why don't you want to install QT libraries? hard drive space issue?
[10:05] <Marko> how do I turn off events from displaying in xchat?
[10:05] <brownie17> has anyone here tried warcraft3 with wine?
[10:06] <Marko> like people joining and leaving
[10:06] <brownie17> aftertaf, how can i find out what version of wine i have?
[10:06] <xukun> dooglus, I,m downloading it now
[10:06] <Sonderblade> thanks
[10:06] <sn9> Marko: rightclick the channel tab
[10:06] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I have enough hard disk space, but i'm short of ram.  I don't want Qt tying up RAM as well as Gtk
[10:06] <bigfoot1> Marko: i tried doing that in terminal, but i got message: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the list . directory." I don't have synaptic opened.
[10:06] <xukun> dooglus, how do I install it?
[10:06] <bigfoot1> dooglus: i didn't know installing qt ties up ram.
[10:06] <dooglus> brownie17: I tried it on acid once, but never with wine, no.
[10:06] <dooglus> brownie17: I don't recommend it.
[10:07] <dbug> bigfoot1, maybe you have synaptic open
[10:07] <dooglus> xukun: I installed it just for my user, like this:
[10:07] <bigfoot1> dooglus: so whenever we install a kde app (an app that starts with the letter "k"), that means we have installed QT libraries?
[10:07] <Marko> bigfoot1: you have some package manager open if your sources file is locked
[10:07] <brownie17> dooglus, well i found a guide that said it worked, and how to do it, but when i try it warcraft tells me i am running windows 95
[10:07] <bigfoot1> Marko: dbug. i don't have anything open. just my browser, terminal, gedit and nautilus
[10:07] <bigfoot1> Marko: dbug. oh i was wrong.
[10:08] <bigfoot1> Marko: dbug. sorry
[10:08] <dooglus> xukun: cd; mkdir -p programs; cd programs; tar xf ~/Desktop/skype_static*.bz2; cd skype *; ./skype
[10:08] <dooglus> bigfoot1: yes.  KDE apps need the Qt libs to run
[10:08] <bliggy> [spam]  if anyone could help me with my vid issue it would be greatly appreciated here... all the data so far is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76904 [/spam] 
[10:08] <dooglus> bigfoot1: maybe you need to use cedega or whatever it's called.
[10:09] <Marko> bigfoot: interesting.  make sure that you are not editing the file also?  Usually you have a lock on a file when an application wants exclusive rights to the file
[10:09] <bigfoot1> Marko: dbug. oh. i was wrong about being wrong. i don't see anything opened. No synaptic. Nothing.
[10:09] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: and I suppose you meant "interfaces=eth0" when you typed "interface=eth0"?
[10:09] <bigfoot1> dooglus: and ram is being used by QT even when there is no kde app being used at that time?
[10:09] <giany911> how do i install a .rpm
[10:09] <bluefrog-10> yes indeed  i should pay attention how i write my answers sry
[10:10] <dooglus> bigfoot1: installing Qt libraries doesn't use RAM, but running them does.  so I'd rather not run them, so I don't install them.  geddit?  :)
[10:10] <dooglus> giany911: you probably shouldn't need to - but if you really do, you can use a package called 'alien'
[10:10] <bigfoot1> and when are they run? only when a kde program is run?
[10:10] <dooglus> bigfoot1: that's right
[10:10] <bluefrog-10> in fact before the Not configured to listen on any interfaces i also have  No subnet declaration for eth0. but i do have a subnet decl.
[10:10] <Marko> where does ubuntu mount network drives?
[10:11] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: try relocating the file to /etc/dhcpd.conf and try to start it
[10:11] <kalv> hello people - I'm running ubuntu on my laptop now - it's amazing!!
[10:11] <f_newton> is there a backports and extras for breezy?
[10:11] <Spear> glad you're happy with it kalv
[10:11] <kalv> only distro that works out of the box - well almost...
[10:11] <bluefrog-10> would a symlink be alright for the dhcpd.conf, if yes in that case it doesn't do antyghin.
[10:11] <bigfoot1> anybody know of a good asterisk program for gnome? (Coz I've been using kiax, but would like to stick to non-QT stuff like mr. dooglus)
[10:11] <kalv> i'm totally converted from mandriva
[10:12] <aftertaf> dooglus:  on acid ;) hehe
[10:12] <dooglus> what's asterisk?
[10:12] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: just move the file for now, if it works you can symlink it later
[10:12] <bigfoot1> i'm looking for an asterisk client application
[10:12] <Spear> wow ... Mandriva works well too, no ?
[10:12] <f_newton> kalv yer talking like a noob
[10:12] <sn9> f_newton: the hoary-extras works for breezy for now, no backports
[10:12] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: better yet, just put a copy there.
[10:12] <kalv> well i am
[10:12] <bluefrog-10> trying now
[10:12] <f_newton> hoary works?
[10:12] <SpiderMan> if i want to run the upgrade should i be in run level 3 ?
[10:12] <liable> SpiderMan: no, why?
[10:12] <SpiderMan> just asking,
[10:13] <Marko> douglas: asterisk is a PBX program (like a super duper answering machine)
[10:13] <liable> SpiderMan: this isnt redhat :)
[10:13] <bigfoot1> guys: please complete this analogy: kiax is to kubuntu as ______ is to gnome?
[10:13] <f_newton> sn9 do you have a url for the repo ?
[10:13] <bigfoot1> guys: please complete this analogy: kiax is to kubuntu as ______ is to ubuntu.
[10:13] <SpiderMan> coz my upgrade files are going to finsh  d/ling in about 15 min
[10:13] <dlf> anyone able to help me with a simple ftp-server that can handle 3users and a anonymous account..
[10:13] <f_newton> I want the win codecs and java etc ...
[10:14] <bluefrog-10> still the same erors
[10:14] <kalv> 5.10 breezy badger - anyone know if the accelerated nvidia driver will break my susped and hibernate?
[10:14] <verwilst> hello
[10:14] <sn9> f_newton: deb http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/ hoary-extras main restricted universe multiverse
[10:15] <verwilst> can somebody tell me what exactly universe and multiverse are? :$
[10:15] <sn9> !tell f_newton about w32deb
[10:15] <volvoguy> dooglus, i know what a good test would be.... to see if the data recovery can read any data after i run wipe on this drive! :-)
[10:15] <bigfoot1> sn9, i updated my sources list just as you said, but i still can't get the kiax installation to work.
[10:15] <sn9> bigfoot1: did you do apt-get update?
[10:15] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: that's all I have considering I don't have dhcp installed. Sorry, maybe ask the questions again.
[10:15] <cronik> any1 from nz here?
[10:15] <bluefrog-10> ty nnonix
[10:16] <dlf> !tell dlf about proftpd
[10:16] <bigfoot1> sn9, i hit "reload" in synaptic
[10:16] <dlf> hm...
[10:16] <bluefrog-10> anyone with a dhcp server running on breezy could give me a hand pls?
[10:16] <malv> is it me or does openoffice feel a bit sluggish under linux?
[10:16] <sn9> bigfoot1: and it still says no candidate?
[10:17] <ethy> malv: It's probably GNOME.
[10:17] <agabus> when i go to install ubuntu from my laptop. will i be able to use my wireless card during the install?
[10:17] <dooglus> volvoguy: I would be very surprised if it does.  just from the tone of the wipe man page I think this guy would have done a good job with 'wipe'
[10:17] <bigfoot1> sn9, yes, it still gives me the same message (see it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3226)
[10:17] <bluefrog-10> there's afair chance yes abacus
[10:17] <Marko> I would use vsftpd instead of proftp, but that's just me: http://vsftpd.beasts.org/
[10:17] <ethy> malv: If you are using Fluxbox or IceWM then it's probably faster.
[10:18] <atman> ey hou
[10:18] <bluefrog-10> there's afair chance yes abacus
[10:18] <bluefrog-10> there's afair chance yes agabus
[10:18] <agabus> bluefrog-10 - does it use ndiswrapper or.? how does it load a driver for it?
[10:18] <kalv> agabus - yes you can use wireless card
[10:18] <malv> ethy: yea, probably a gnome issue
[10:18] <kalv> i did
[10:19] <agabus> kalv - so how does it load the driver for it?
[10:19] <goodthink> evening gents and mam's
[10:19] <goodthink> I have a problem I can't seem to find help on
[10:19] <goodthink> how do i set up ppoe in ubuntu?
[10:19] <bluefrog-10> agabus: is ti on a laptop?
[10:20] <agabus> bluefrog-10 - yer
[10:20] <aftertaf> !pppoe
[10:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[10:20] <atman> ei was up guis and girs
[10:20] <f_newton> sn9, thanks... working them out now.
[10:20] <atman> :)
[10:20] <bluefrog-10> agabus: the the card will likely be found and activated by breezy
[10:20] <ethy> I don't get it... How can you use Fluxbox within GNOME? Isn't Fluxbox an seperate GUI?
[10:21] <kalv> if you have a wep key - remember to take it down agabus
[10:21] <agabus> bluefrog-10 - i dont exactly follow u. why do other distro's automatically load all wireless cards?
[10:21] <dmlinux> agt any idea on how to make the DVD Mplayer full screen,
[10:21] <bluefrog-10> agabus: if not ndiswrapper after the install. ndiswrapper is on the cd
[10:21] <goodthink> !ppoe
[10:21] <ubotu> goodthink: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:21] <aftertaf> !pppoe
[10:21] <ubotu> pppoe is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[10:21] <Marko> whenever I try to launch mail notification I get the following error: mail-notification: error while loading shared libraries: libsoup-2.2.so.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:21] <kalv> agabus - the wireless driver loaded automatically for me - using intel 2200BG
[10:21] <bluefrog-10> agabus: what do u mean by why do other distro's automatically load all wireless cards?
[10:22] <sn9> bigfoot1: do you remember installing kiax under hoary?
[10:22] <agabus> kalv - i will remember to take my wep key thanks for the reminder.
[10:22] <kalv> agabus - dude i say this cause i damn forgot!
[10:22] <highvoltage> hi, how do i download a package from hoary?
[10:22] <brownie17> does anyone know what your config file is called in wine?
[10:23] <highvoltage> i'd like to download one .deb file from hoary, to install on another machine.
[10:23] <sn9> highvoltage: you mean onto breezy? why?
[10:23] <agabus> bluefrog-10 - i was not aware that my linksys card had any linux drivers available for it
[10:23] <agabus> kalv - lol dam
[10:23] <highvoltage> sn9: no, for another hoary box (remote, no internet connection)
[10:23] <Marko> anyone have a working mail-notification?
[10:23] <dooglus> highvoltage: do you have a hoary machine online?
[10:23] <dmlinux> Anyone have an idea on how to make Mplayer view the DVD playback t full screen , intead of looking at a a full screen window, with a minimized DVD playback
[10:23] <highvoltage> dooglus: no.
[10:23] <nnonix> agabus: if you want to know for sure, load the live CD. If your wifi card works there it should work during installation.
[10:24] <dooglus> highvoltage: go to packages.ubuntu.com - that's the easiest way
[10:24] <Marko> dmlinux: use the -zoom option
[10:24] <highvoltage> dooglus: thanks
[10:24] <agabus> nnonix - i don't have the time to download both the live and install cd tonight :(
[10:24] <ethy> dmlinux: Right click on the screen, click on Preferences, go to Video tab, and then select xv X11/Xv decoder.
[10:24] <dooglus> dmlinux: use "-vo xv" flags
[10:24] <SpiderMan> has anybody done the upgrade from hoary to breezy ?
[10:24] <dmlinux> Marko i cant find that
[10:25] <bam_> yes
[10:25] <bam_> worked flawlessly
[10:25] <julo> hi
[10:25] <xukun> dooglus, thanks for your help. Skype starts now, and it look realy nice. but I have two small problems, first is that it takes about a minute to start after I run ./skye and the second thing is that: sound comes from my laptop speakers and not from my usb headset
[10:25] <nnonix> agabus: you may want to search the Ubuntu forums for your wifi card, see what experience others have had, if any.
[10:25] <bluefrog-10> agabus: then do an install and find out. do u know how to set up ndiswrapper just in case?
[10:25] <Marko> how do I personal messege someone in xchat?
[10:25] <bam_> some tweaks needed to be re-applied
[10:25] <julo> Could anyone tell me how I can list all the packages that I installed from a given repository ?
[10:25] <agabus> bluefrog-10 - i have a basic idea of how to setup ndiswrapper, but how hard can it be.
[10:25] <dooglus> xukun: it's a KDE app - it uses a different set of libraries than GNOME apps use
[10:25] <dmlinux> ethy do i have to restart the dvd ?
[10:26] <xukun> dooglus, I see
[10:26] <ethy> dmlinux: Yeah. Quit Mplayer and then start Mplayer again.
[10:26] <dooglus> xukun: as for the sound, I don't know about that sorry.
[10:26] <bigfoot1> sn9, yes i installed kiax when i was still using hoary. Kiax worked fine there
[10:26] <Marko> dmlinux: are you running mplayer from the command prompt or are you running gmplayer?
[10:26] <xukun> dooglus, thanks so far
[10:27] <dmlinux> Marko im running it fro apps/sound/video on the GUI
[10:27] <bigfoot1> does anybody know of a internet softphone software package that allows one to access the asterisk PBX gateway? I heard about gnophone, but it's not in repos
[10:27] <dooglus> xukun: in skype, do you see anything interesting in tools->options->headsets ?
[10:27] <dmlinux> ethy Fatal error ! , Error opening/initializing the selected video_out -vo device
[10:28] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I read that gnophone is "abandonware" ie. not worked on for a long time, not working with current versions of asterisk, etc.
[10:28] <ethy> dmlinux: Go to the terminal, then "mplayer -vo vx".
[10:28] <Marko> dmlinux: got it.  do other video files play in fullscreen fine?
[10:28] <xukun> dooglus, yes it says: /dev/dsp
[10:28] <dmlinux> mark no
[10:28] <dooglus> xukun: do you have a choice there?
[10:29] <bigfoot1> dooglus: i just went totheir website. looks like the last update was 2002. you're right. Do you or anyone here know of a good asterisk-accessible softphone client for my ubuntu?
[10:29] <dooglus> bigfoot1: did you see http://iaxclient.sourceforge.net/iaxcomm/ ?
[10:29] <xukun> dooglus, yes, /dev/dsp1
[10:29] <TokenBad> anyone here use xchat...and a perl script that post your current bandwidth from it?
[10:29] <dooglus> xukun: try that maybe
[10:29] <SamStar> Hey how do i download/install music/video codecs ?
[10:29] <Marko> dmlinux: does mplayer -zoom -fs <your video file> from the terminal work?
[10:30] <bluefrog-10> anyone with a dhcp server running on breezy could give me a hand pls?
[10:30] <bigfoot1> dooglus: thanks. how'd you hear about that? Do you use that? How do i install it?
[10:30] <ethy> !tell SamStar about w32codecs
[10:30] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I only hear about asterisk 5 minutes ago.  I just googled for it.
[10:30] <ethy> SamStar: Check your PM.
[10:30] <dmlinux> Marko there is no zoom fuction , only a double size -fullscreen, but it doesnt change the size of the picture
[10:30] <Marko> so anyone have mail-notification installed at all?
[10:30] <sn9> bigfoot1: when you installed kiax, did you use apt?
[10:30] <dooglus> bigfoot1: it looks like you're going to have to compile it from source...
[10:30] <ethy> dmlinux: You have to use the Xv video output instead of the X11.
[10:31] <SamStar> thx ethy, but is it only for DVD-Video ?
[10:31] <dmlinux> ethy i get an error when i do that
[10:31] <ethy> SamStar: No, QuickTime, Real, WMV, etc.
[10:31] <SamStar> ok, and how do i install ? ;0
[10:31] <mathieu> hi, i upgraded to breezy, but i don't have the nice graphical boot screen. how do i enable it?
[10:31] <Marko> dmlinux: just to double check, you get that when launching mplayer from the terminal with:  mplayer -zoom -fs <your video file>
[10:31] <SpiderMan> mathieu i want to know thesame thing
[10:31] <ethy> dmlinux: Try to run "mplayer -vo vx" in terminal.
[10:32] <highvoltage> dooglus: thanks for the packages link, it did the job perfectly.
[10:32] <ben> Has anyone got an example sources.list for Hoary with extras and backports?
[10:32] <ben> I keep getting 403 errors
[10:32] <sn9> bigfoot1: download this: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kiax/kiax_0.8.4-1debian_i386.deb?download
[10:32] <dmlinux> Marko whats the line if you are playing right off a dvd /cda1?
[10:32] <Sh|fty> clear
[10:32] <Sh|fty> wth
[10:32] <dmlinux> ethy i get a large list of commands with that
[10:32] <Sh|fty> clearwe all do
[10:32] <xukun> dooglus, thanks a lot, that works
[10:32] <Sh|fty> ben we all are
[10:32] <Marko> dmlinux: let me get a dvd and try it out
[10:32] <ethy> SamStar: Download the deb file first then open up a terminal, CD to the path you downloaded the file and then type "sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb".
[10:33] <bigfoot1> sn9, i don't exactly remember, but I think I did not get it from apt. I remember working with it for a few days. I think i had to compile it from source. Either that, or i had to get that deb, but had to compile its dependency/ies from source. it was not fun.
[10:33] <dooglus> xukun: you're welcome.
[10:33] <sn9> bigfoot1: download this: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kiax/kiax_0.8.4-1debian_i386.deb?download
[10:33] <bigfoot1> okay, sn9. I'm doing so now. thank you!
[10:33] <dooglus> xukun: the slow startup shouldn't be a problem - you only start it once, right?  it might be eating a lot of memory though.  shame there's not a gnome version.
[10:33] <ethy> dmlinux: One sec...
[10:34] <TokenBad> anyone here use xchat...and a perl script that post your current bandwidth from it?
[10:34] <rempresent> i have a rar archive, how can i extract that
[10:34] <rempresent> >
[10:34] <rempresent> ?
[10:35] <ethy> dmlinux: Look here. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76423
[10:35] <mllr> Anyone have a recommendation for GOOD eye drops?  I'm a eye drop noob.
[10:35] <dooglus> rempresent: "unrar x <archive>"
[10:35] <mllr> they burn like the sun.
[10:35] <dooglus> rempresent: install "unrar" or "unrar-nonfree" first using synaptic
[10:35] <bigfoot1> dooglus: yes, i just went to that. I'm no geek and i don't know how to compile from source. Is "compile" a scary thing?
[10:36] <bigfoot1> mllr:  i use eyemo
[10:36] <dooglus> bigfoot1: it can be a hassle - it depends on the package really...
[10:36] <bigfoot1> mllr: or chilled cucumber slices placed on closed eyes.
[10:36] <dmlinux> ethy i just tried that , and again gave me a fatal error
[10:36] <dooglus> bigfoot1: note also that a release candidate was made in march, but nothing since.  that doesn't look good...
[10:36] <SamStar> ethy, i type it, and what than ? when i try to play an mp3 it won't work :(
[10:36] <johntramp> hey, is it just me or are the ubuntu reposotories tiny?  There seem to be very few packages in them.
[10:37] <bigfoot1> dooglus, coz if i understand you right, using a non-QT package is better than using a QT-package, yes?
[10:37] <ethy> SamStar: Did the package successfully installed?
[10:37] <johntramp> Is there something I am missing?   Even packages in forum posts don't seem to be on any mirrors I have tried
[10:37] <bigfoot1> dooglus: is there no other iax/asterisk internet softphone?
[10:37] <SamStar> it said: sam@SamStar:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[10:37] <SamStar> Password:
[10:37] <SamStar> Selecting previously deselected package w32codecs.
[10:37] <SamStar> (Reading database ... 62557 files and directories currently installed.)
[10:37] <SamStar> Unpacking w32codecs (from w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb) ...
[10:37] <SamStar> Setting up w32codecs (20050412-0.0) ...
[10:37] <ethy> dmlinux: Um... do you have w32codecs? I'm not sure if it matters. Try to restart X perhaps?
[10:37] <bigfoot1> samstar enter the wrath of the forum
[10:37] <ubuntu> hi
[10:37] <SamStar> wrath ? :o
[10:38] <SpiderMan> Does the gnome update with the upgrade, and all the new features ?
[10:38] <dmlinux> ethy ill see if i have w32, im pretty sure i do since ive been able to play mp3s
[10:38] <ethy> SamStar: What are you using to play MP3s?
[10:38] <TTilus> johntramp: packages in forum posts such as?
[10:38] <ubuntu>  Help
[10:38] <ubuntu> Help
[10:38] <ubuntu> HelpHelp
[10:38] <ubuntu> Help
[10:38] <ubuntu> Help
[10:38] <ubuntu> Help
[10:38] <ubuntu> Help
[10:38] <ubuntu> Help
[10:38] <SamStar> ehm rythmbox
[10:38] <TTilus> johntramp: what do you have in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:38] <ethy> SamStar: Just say "no codec" when you try to play mp3?
[10:38] <ubuntu> Help
[10:39] <ubuntu> Help
[10:39] <ubuntu> Help
[10:39] <bigfoot1> ubuntu: call 911
[10:39] <TTilus> ubuntu: doing that, you won't get it...
[10:39] <TTilus> ubuntu: if you have a question, ask
[10:39] <bigfoot1> ubuntu: you gotta ask nicely, like this:
[10:39] <bigfoot1> help
[10:40] <ubuntu> what can i do to lturn off my PC
[10:40] <TTilus> ubuntu: running ubuntu i guess?
[10:40] <bigfoot1> ubuntu: menu-->shut down-->shut down.
[10:40] <ubuntu> y
[10:40] <SamStar> it says that the file isn't an audio stream...
[10:40] <bigfoot1> ubuntu, press the power button on your pc.
[10:41] <bigfoot1> ubuntu: pull the plug (not recommended)
[10:41] <SamStar> but it is an *.mp3
[10:41] <ubuntu> no menu
[10:41] <bluefrog-10> anyone with a dhcp server running on breezy could give me a hand pls?
[10:41] <ethy> SamStar: Try using XMMS.
[10:42] <SamStar> need to install that ;)
[10:42] <Marko> dmlinux:  sorry, I'm having problems finding a dvd :) hang on some more
[10:42] <bigfoot1> does anybody here use an internet softphone client?
[10:42] <dmlinux> ethy when i try to install w32 codecs, it says PAckage w32codecs has no installation candidate
[10:42] <ethy> dmlinux: Did you do "sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb"?
[10:42] <aftertaf> !repositories
[10:42] <ubotu> hmm... sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[10:43] <aftertaf> dmlinux:  ^^^^^^
[10:43] <bigfoot1> how do i install a deb? And after i install a deb, can i delete the deb file?
[10:43] <dmlinux> ethy so i use sudo dpkg -i w32codecs.deb?
[10:43] <minuscipher> hey
[10:43] <TTilus> bigfoot1: dpkg -i file, yes
[10:43] <sn9> bigfoot1: yes you may. dpkg -i file.deb
[10:43] <ethy> bigfoot1: To install a deb, "sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb".
[10:43] <bigfoot1> TTilus: sn9, ethy Three-fold thanks
[10:44] <ethy> dmlinux: Is the file name you downloaded named w32codecs.deb?
[10:44] <dmlinux> dpkg: error processing w32codecs.deb (--install):
[10:44] <dmlinux>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[10:44] <TTilus> bigfoot1: and prepend sudo, of course
[10:44] <SamStar> ethy, thx alot :)
[10:44] <ethy> dmlinux: So you downloaded w32codecs from the repository?
[10:44] <minuscipher> ok ok who can tell me how to install a program like this http://terminatorx.org/
[10:44] <dmlinux> ethy idk. i guess i dont have them
[10:44] <bjv> in 11 hours i will have finished upgrading to breezy, will:
[10:44] <bjv> a) i not notice the change, or
[10:44] <bjv> b) wild shit will suddenly happen
[10:45] <bjv> because there are a crapload of packages..
[10:45] <volvoguy> if i can drag my procmail-loving friend in here this week, is there a good chance someone can get us going in the right direction toward a migration to postfix? i'd have someone explain it to me, but i'm not sure how either works really and don't know the details of our config (apparently it's really complicated).
[10:45] <ethy> !tell dmlinux about w32codecs
[10:45] <sn9> !tell dmlinux about w32deb
[10:45] <dmlinux> ethy any way to apt-get it ?
[10:45] <TokenBad> anyone here use xchat...and a perl script that post your current bandwidth from it?
[10:45] <sn9> dmlinux: not anymore
[10:45] <dmlinux> god damnit :(
[10:46] <dmlinux> sorry for language
[10:46] <dmlinux> ethy so once i download this thing how do i install it?
[10:46] <helloyo> am i the only one that went back to hoary?
[10:46] <sn9> dmlinux: dpkg -i file.deb
[10:47] <ethy> dmlinux: CD to the directory where you download the file and then do "sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb".
[10:47] <sn9> helloyo: probably
[10:47] <volvoguy> helloyo, probably. i've been using breezy for months. :)
[10:47] <TTilus> helloyo: haven't leaved hoary yet...  :)
[10:47] <bjv> helloyo: im currently migrating, why did you go back?
[10:47] <dooglus> bigfoot1: it's ok to use Qt apps - I would rather keep everything gnome based, but it's not always possible
[10:47] <TTilus> s/leaved/left
[10:47] <bigfoot1> guys, i tried installing a deb (kiax) but i get a message: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kiax:  kiax depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4); however:   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed." Where can i get this  libqt3c102-mt? I can't find it repo
[10:48] <helloyo> bjv, just didn't work anywhere near as well as hoary did for me
[10:48] <helloyo> i think it may be cairo which destroyed my xserver performance
[10:48] <TTilus> bigfoot1: where did you get kiax deb?
[10:48] <sn9> bigfoot1: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:48] <dooglus> bigfoot1: that's the same problem I had with skype.  I ended up installing the 'static' version of skype with the Qt libs bundled.
[10:48] <bjv> helloyo: oic
[10:48] <dmlinux> ethy restart X?
[10:49] <helloyo> bjv, but by all means give it a try, has a couple great features
[10:49] <ethy> dmlinux: You don't have to.
[10:49] <Marko> dmlinux:  well I can't find a DVD :)  try opening a terminal and typing: gmplayer -zoom and then open the dvd from the gui
[10:49] <dmlinux> ethy im still getting that funky error
[10:49] <Marko> hit f to enter fullscreen when the video is playing
[10:50] <Marko> anyone have a working mail-notification installed?
[10:50] <dmlinux> ethy going to restart, brb
[10:50] <bigfoot1> TTilus: i got that kiax deb from s: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kiax/kiax_0.8.4-1debian_i386.deb?download
[10:50] <sn9> Marko: mplayer cannot play DVDs. it can only play titles from DVDs
[10:51] <sn9> bigfoot1: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:52] <nubbe> does   md5sum -c file      return anything if all is well?
[10:52] <qbeek> evolution is not in the application list of bug buddy :(
[10:52] <tti> Hello everyone! I upgraded my server to breezy and now I get a strange behaviour from cyrus/sasl. Can anyone help me?
[10:53] <johntramp> TTilus, sorry, I got distracted.   One package I had to compile today was  http://rename.berlios.de/ , Also packages such as win32codecs do not seem to be on the mirrors. I was also looking for something like the bash-completion package in gentoo
[10:53] <Marko> sn9: really?  I see.  I just read :MPlayer does not support the DVDNAV software that plays DVD menus. For menued DVD playback, an alternative player such as Xine must be used from: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/MPlayer
[10:53] <goodthink> is there a problem with wireless centrino laptops and pppoe on ubuntu?
[10:53] <sn9> Marko: that's what i meant
[10:54] <dooglus> johntramp: ubuntu has bash-completion as standard.  you need to uncomment it from your ~/.bashrc is all
[10:54] <johntramp> dooglus,  oh cool,  thanks
[10:54] <TokenBad> tension breaker..had to be done
[10:54] <TokenBad> heheh
[10:54] <Marko> sn9:  cool beans.  You wouldn't happen to know how to debug a mail-notification bug
[10:55] <goodthink> everytime i try and install pppoe I get the error that ppoeconf cant find the access concentrator
[10:55] <sn9> Marko: doesn't sound like something i've done
[10:55] <dooglus> Marko: what's the problem?
[10:56] <dmlinux> ethy works, thanks man
[10:56] <dmlinux> marko thanks for your help
[10:56] <Marko> I installed mail-notification, but it doesn't launch from the menu.  From the command line I get: mail-notification: error while loading shared libraries: libsoup-2.2.so.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:56] <Marko> but I have libsoup 2.2-7 installed
[10:56] <_mindspin> goodthink: did it ever work?
[10:56] <nubbe> does   md5sum -c file      return anything if all is well?
[10:56] <sn9> Marko: sounds like a path problem
[10:56] <goodthink> no
[10:56] <_mindspin> where are you?
[10:57] <goodthink> just installed ubuntu and tried to get the pppoe working
[10:57] <_mindspin> but ppoe worked before on another distro?
[10:57] <goodthink> this is my first linux experience
[10:57] <dooglus> Marko: is this in breezy?  and did you install mail-notification using apt-get from a standard repository?  or what?
[10:57] <_mindspin> it worked on windows?
[10:57] <goodthink> yeah
[10:58] <dmlinux> Anyone here know if there is a way to undervolt your CPU for a laptop
[10:58] <goodthink> windows it self configures
[10:58] <Marko> this is in breezy using the universe respository
[10:58] <johntramp> I have problems with sound in macromedia flash player through firefox.  I have read on the forums to killall esd first, but that is an ugly hack,  why doesn't it work in the first place?
[10:58] <sn9> dmlinux: you mean lower the freq? yeah
[10:58] <bjv> dmlinux: i undervolt my CPU for my desktop.
[10:58] <_mindspin> I#m asking cause I had the same experience some months ago and it was due to the modem type
[10:58] <goodthink> ah
[10:58] <_mindspin> and more an ISP issue
[10:58] <bjv> dmlinux: via BIOS, obviously.
[10:59] <_mindspin> but that#s not in your case
[10:59] <dooglus> Marko: I'll try it.
[10:59] <goodthink> off the router its fine
[10:59] <dmlinux> sn9 no no , undervolt the CPU for less power consuption
[10:59] <bjv> sn9: yeah, reduce the # volts the CPU is fed.
[10:59] <dmlinux> bjv yeah , i do it in windblowz with notebook control hardware
[10:59] <goodthink> dunno if its the wirless part or what
[10:59] <_mindspin> could be
[10:59] <bigfoot1> TTilus: i got the kiax deb from http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kiax/kiax_0.8.4-1debian_i386.deb?download, which is where sn9 pointed me too.
[10:59] <bjv> dmlinux: oh, i lower mine 0.1 volts directly with BIOS
[10:59] <_mindspin> but I have no wireless
[10:59] <bigfoot1> sn9, is your handle a wordplay?
[10:59] <tti> When logging into my cyrus imap server with thunderbird clients, sometimes sasl correctly authenticate the password; while other times does not, telling 'NULL password received'
[11:00] <goodthink> going to reinstall and select the configuration during install and see if that works
[11:00] <sn9> bigfoot1: yes
[11:00] <bjv> dmlinux: if not aware of any software solutions for linux, though there probably are.
[11:00] <bjv> *i'm
[11:00] <dmlinux> bjv i undervolt mine from 0.978  ( or near that ) to 0.732v
[11:00] <tti> I'm using SASL + LDAP; all worked fine before upgrading to breezy
[11:00] <bluefrog-10> anyone with a dhcp server running on breezy could give me a hand pls?
[11:01] <_mindspin> goodthink: reinstall the whole system ? thats not necessary
[11:01] <bjv> ive never seen "how low, i can go" :
[11:01] <sn9> bluefrog-10: i have one
[11:01] <mustard5> I've been checking my firewall settings with www.grc.com and it seems to be showing my ports 21,22 and 113 as being open and not stealthed, is this normal?
[11:01] <goodthink> i needs ideas hehe
[11:01] <goodthink> pppoeconf isnt working
[11:01] <bigfoot1> sn9: i did as you said (sudo apt-get -f install). it removed something (i think kiax). Now what?
[11:01] <bigfoot1> sn9:  yes, it did remove kiax
[11:01] <bluefrog-10> sn9: did u have to fidle or did it work straight?
[11:02] <sn9> bigfoot1: it shouldn't do that
[11:02] <Hmmmm> hi guys can someon erecommend a gui cvs software for a linux newbie on ubuntu?
[11:02] <sn9> bluefrog-10: i had to config it for my net
[11:02] <bigfoot1> sn9, when i ran sudo apt-get -f install again, nothing was added/removed/installed
[11:02] <BobbySue> well well well
[11:02] <BobbySue> ubuntu rocks now
[11:02] <rempresent> goodnight everyone
[11:02] <BobbySue> I support all that ubuntu stands for
[11:02] <bigfoot1> rempresent: good night. which country u in?
[11:02] <BobbySue> time to go though
[11:02] <rempresent> USA
[11:03] <Marko> It looks like my libsoup2.2-7 did no install a library in /usr/lib.  I put a symbolic link from 2.2-7 to 2.2-8(which was installed) and it looks like it launched now
[11:03] <Sh|fty> its 7pm here :)
[11:03] <Sh|fty> mmmm, food time
[11:03] <Sh|fty> who wants to wget me some food ?
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> any chance i have a look at your conf in private window? i keep having not listen on interface and no subnet decl when those are correctly configured (well i assume)
[11:03] <dooglus> Marko: where did you get libsoup from? 2.2-7 isn't the breezy version
[11:04] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[11:04] <sn9> bluefrog-10: if i were chatting on the breezy machine you could have
[11:04] <odat> anyone have any experience with gyach enchanced???
[11:04] <bluefrog-10> oh ok too bad for me
[11:04] <odat> enhanced lol
[11:05] <mustard5> Hmmmm, ocamlcvs ?
[11:05] <mustard5> I don't know much about cvs :D
[11:05] <Marko> i think it might be left over from when I upgraded from hoaray.  It doesn't say it's from universe or multiverse...I actually don't know where I got it from
[11:05] <tuxedo_kamen> listen, I am having a problem on my ubuntu... each time I login, I get 3 errors, saying "re-read or not?"
[11:05] <Marko> I'm going to uninstall it
[11:05] <sn9> bluefrog-10: one problem i had was editing the wrong file. what is the path to your config?
[11:05] <tuxedo_kamen> how can i fix it?
[11:05] <mustard5> Hmmmm, tkcvs?
[11:06] <mustard5> I've been checking my firewall settings with www.grc.com and it seems to be showing my ports 21,22 and 113 as being open and not stealthed, is this normal?
[11:06] <bluefrog-10> ./etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf and /etc/default/dhcp3-server
[11:06] <odat> anyone ever used gyach enhanced on ubuntu?
[11:07] <sn9> bluefrog-10: mine turned out to be /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf
[11:07] <dooglus> Marko: if you have a little time, use "debfoster" to strip out all "left over" packages
[11:07] <sn9> bluefrog-10: mine turned out to be /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, sorry typo
[11:07] <Sh|fty> ok iam not running /names in #ubuntu anymore :p
[11:07] <dooglus> mustard5: 21 is FTP, 22 is ssh and 113 is "auth" (whatever that is).  do you mean to be running those services?
[11:08] <mustard5> dooglus, no
[11:08] <Marko> well I've got some extra time right now I guess
[11:08] <dooglus> mustard5: are you sure you're scanning your PC and not your router?
[11:08] <mustard5> I have no ftp server, don't use ssh and don't want 113 open
[11:08] <Hmmmm> mustard5, thanks am checking it out
[11:08] <dooglus> mustard5: perhaps your router is listening on those ports?
[11:08] <mustard5> dooglus, I am on dialup no router that I know of
[11:09] <mustard5> ah ok
[11:09] <bluefrog-10> sn9: dammit. u're right
[11:09] <TokenBad> anyone here use xchat...and a perl script that post your current bandwidth from it?
[11:09] <bluefrog-10> sn9: ty
[11:09] <mustard5> dooglus, I have firestarter set to drop packets silently, but it doesnt seem to be affecting these ports
[11:09] <tti> someone can help me?
[11:10] <bluefrog-10> tti: to do what?
[11:10] <tti> I'm using SASL + LDAP; all worked fine before upgrading to breezy
[11:10] <tti> When logging into my cyrus imap server with thunderbird clients, sometimes sasl correctly authenticate the password; while other times does not, telling 'NULL password received'
[11:11] <dooglus> mustard5: is your IP address 211.27.133.29 ?
[11:11] <xukun> do I need to install firewall and antivirus software on my ubuntu system?
[11:11] <bigfoot1> a program i want to use needs libqt3c102-mt . where can i get libqt3c102-mt ?
[11:11] <bluefrog-10> tti: sry not yet on my way to install it
[11:12] <mustard5> let me check
[11:12] <dmlinux> can you run a KDE app on gnome?
[11:12] <dooglus> dmlinux: you can
[11:12] <dmlinux> dooglus how do i do that
[11:12] <Sh|fty> bluefrog: try sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt in console
[11:12] <dooglus> dmlinux: just install it using synaptic or apt-get and run it.  the installer will make sure it downloads whatever KDE libs it needs
[11:13] <sn9> Sh|fty: won't work for .deb deps
[11:13] <Sh|fty> oops :p
[11:13] <bigfoot1> Sh|fty: you talking to me?
[11:13] <tuxedo_kamen> everyone.... I wanted to upgrade to 5.10 using this adress: http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/5.10/ , how can I add it to the repositories? Can anyone please tell me??
[11:13] <Sh|fty> dw about it
[11:13] <ethy> Is there anyway to resize the panels and icons into a smaller scale when using a lower resolution?
[11:13] <dmlinux> dooglus i want to install Klaptop , but its not in synaptic
[11:13] <dooglus> bigfoot1: you could try installing whatever version of the qt libs are in the repositories and then making an empty package called libqt3c102-mt to keep dpkg happy
[11:13] <mustard5> dooglus, whats the easiest way to check my ip?
[11:14] <dooglus> mustard5: the grc site should tell you it when it does the scan
[11:14] <bigfoot1> dooglus: will that work?
[11:14] <mustard5> 203.134.111.194
[11:14] <dooglus> bigfoot1: it depends how different the 2 versions of the Qt libs are
[11:14] <bigfoot1> dooglus: which 2 versions?
[11:14] <dooglus> bigfoot1: the version it's asking for, and the version in the ubuntu repositories
[11:15] <bigfoot1> how do i know what version is in the ubuntu repo?
[11:15] <mustard5> dooglus,  203.134.111.194
[11:15] <dooglus> mustard5: both FTP and ssh close the connection as soon as I connect
[11:15] <bigfoot1> dooglushow do i know what version is in the ubuntu repo?
[11:15] <bigfoot1> dooglus how do i know what version is in the ubuntu repo?
[11:15] <mustard5> hmmm ok dooglus...so its all good?
[11:15] <dooglus> bigfoot1: you type "apt-cache policy <packagename>
[11:15] <mustard5> can I stealth those ports?
[11:15] <aftertaf> bigfoot1:  either with synaptic, or with apt-cache show
[11:15] <tuxedo_kamen> I wanted to upgrade to 5.10 using this adress: http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/5.10/ , how can I add it to the repositories? Can anyone please tell me??
[11:16] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  why not use the official repositories?
[11:16] <dooglus> mustard5: well, it's not good that the ports are open if you don't want them to be.  are you running sshd?  "ps -ef | grep ssh"
[11:16] <bigfoot1> dooglus: and the package name is " libqt3c102-mt ", right?
[11:16] <dooglus> bigfoot1: well, no.  but it's something like that...
[11:16] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: use http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/archive/
[11:16] <tuxedo_kamen> aftertaf, in Portugal we have international download limits, and it would be very costy to donwload it from a non-portuguese website!
[11:16] <aftertaf> bigfoot1:  you trying skype?
[11:17] <mustard5> dooglus, I'll put the output in #flood  you in there?
[11:17] <dooglus> bigfoot1: for breezy the package name is "libqt3-mt"
[11:17] <tuxedo_kamen> sn9, I don't want the old releases, I want the new ones!
[11:17] <dooglus> I am now mustard5
[11:17] <bigfoot1> aftertaf: no. i already have skype running well. I'm trying to install some softphone that can connect to asterisk servers
[11:17] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  ok. isnt there an official pt.archive.ubuntu.com avaitable?
[11:17] <bigfoot1> aftertaf: now i'm trying kiax
[11:17] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: that is the new
[11:17] <dmlinux> dooglus will intalling alot of KDE stuff hurt gnome?
[11:17] <aftertaf> oki bigfoot1 :)
[11:18] <dooglus> mustard5: that's odd then.  what if you "netstat -lp"?
[11:18] <ethy> bigfoot1: Are you trying to install Skype?
[11:18] <tuxedo_kamen> aftertaf, I don't think so
[11:18] <tuxedo_kamen> sn9 , but when I try to update, it doesn't find 5.10 !
[11:18] <dooglus> dmlinux: define "hurt".  it'll use a bunch of disk space, and if you run a KDE app, the libs will be sitting in memory...
[11:18] <xukun> which firewall and antivirus software are u guys are using?
[11:18] <dooglus> mustard5: "netstat -tlp"
[11:18] <bigfoot1> dooglus: i'm a bit confused. kiax wants  libqt3c102-mt, not  "libqt3-mt". what does  "libqt3-mt" have to do with things?
[11:19] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  can you paste your surces.list to pastebin?
[11:19] <zaydana> can anybody tell me how would i make it so i can read my ntfs partition on a USB2 hard without using sudo?
[11:19] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: let me see your sources.list; pastebin it
[11:19] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[11:19] <bigfoot1> ethy: no, i've got skype already. i'm trying to install a softphone program called kiax, which can access the asterisk servers..
[11:19] <ethy> bigfoot1: Look here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77189
[11:19] <melvztechie> xukun: try firestarter and clamav?
[11:19] <ethy> bigfoot1: Oh ok.
[11:19] <dooglus> bigfoot1: isn't libqt3c102-mt just a specific (old) version of libqt?
[11:19] <tuxedo_kamen> how can I access my sources.list ?
[11:19] <bigfoot1> dooglus: i don't know.
[11:19] <mustard5> dooglus, I'll put it in a pastebin one tick
[11:19] <bigfoot1> dooglus: do you know?
[11:20] <SpiderMan> can somebody help me, i just did my upgrade to breezy, but my screen res wont go higher than 1024x768 anymore
[11:20] <dooglus> bigfoot1: no, I don't...
[11:20] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: its a file in /etc/apt
[11:20] <bigfoot1> dooglus: now that you bring it up, the filenames make me think so.
[11:21] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  there arent any packages in http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/5.10, only ISOs
[11:21] <tuxedo_kamen> here -> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3227
[11:21] <bigfoot1> dooglus: okay, i'll give your suggestion a shot. how do i install the "qt libs"?
[11:21] <dmlinux> dooglus thats fine with me, i have plenty of mem and HD space, i just want something i can manually throttle my CPU with for gnome, but i have to use this KDE app
[11:21] <dooglus> bigfoot1: "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt"?
[11:21] <mustard5> dooglus, pasted the new one in flood
[11:21] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: yours still says "hoary" everywhere. that's 5.04
[11:21] <aftertaf> ok tuxedo_kamen , looking .
[11:21] <dooglus> mustard5: there's nothing listening on 22 or 23
[11:22] <zaydana> can somebody tell me how i can set my usb hard drive to readable by non-root in 5.10 ?
[11:22] <tuxedo_kamen> hum... so, how can I upgrade to 5.10 ?
[11:22] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  all the lines like deb ftp://ftp.rnl.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/ hoary universe........
[11:22] <mustard5> dooglus, why would they be open do you think?
[11:22] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: all you have to do is change "hoary" to "breezy"
[11:22] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  have you tried changing each from hoary to breezy?
[11:22] <tuxedo_kamen> hum, ok... are you sure it is safe?
[11:22] <dooglus> mustard5: are you sure you're scanning your PC and not someone elses?
[11:22] <aftertaf> zaydana:  does it automount?
[11:22] <dooglus> mustard5: for instance, do you use a proxy to access the web?
[11:22] <bigfoot1> dooglus: okay, i have it already. now how do i do this empty package thing?
[11:23] <bigfoot1> dooglus: and, is it safe to do so?
[11:23] <dooglus> bigfoot1: now you're asking...  :)
[11:23] <zaydana> aftertaf - yup
[11:23] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  try it, either its safe, or breezy aint on there.
[11:23] <mustard5> dooglus, I'm using squid connected to my isp proxy
[11:23] <aftertaf> zaydana:  and when it does, no rights as normal user?
[11:23] <zaydana> but it mounts as only readable by root
[11:23] <zaydana> aftertaf - yup
[11:23] <dooglus> mustard5: when you go to grc.com, it sees your proxy connecting to it, and thinks that's you.  when you ask it to scan your pc, it's actually scanning your ISP.  your ISP has those ports open, not you.
[11:23] <bigfoot1> dooglus: my ears are open, sir.
[11:23] <dooglus> mustard5: type "ifconfig eth0" to see your IP address
[11:24] <mustard5> dooglus ah hehehe ok
[11:24] <aftertaf> zaydana:  try creating a mount point with /etc/fstab and giving users the rights....
[11:24] <aftertaf> !mount
[11:24] <ubotu> somebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[11:24] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I'm looking into it...  I'm thinking "checkinstall" might be able to do it, but I'll get back to you
[11:24] <bigfoot1> dooglus: "now you're asking...": does that mean you don't know whether it's safe?
[11:24] <tuxedo_kamen> aftertaf, perhaps you didn't understand my question... is it safe to use the new version? Will it keep my ssh open, as it is now?
[11:24] <zaydana> k, ta
[11:24] <aftertaf> mustard5:  grc is FUD
[11:24] <bigfoot1> dooglus: i'll be right here. but it's not going to do any permanent damage, yes?
[11:24] <mustard5> aftertaf, :)
[11:24] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  should do no problem yeah, you connecting to it now via ssh?
[11:24] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: the new version has reached stable status
[11:25] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I'm no expert - but I reckon it'll be safe enough.
[11:25] <mustard5> dooglus, pasted ifconfig output in #flood
[11:25] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  ^^which means it only breaks things we know about ;)
[11:25] <dooglus> mustard5: just "ifconfig" then?
[11:25] <tuxedo_kamen> aftertaf, I connect from university to my house by ssh, so that I don't spend much of my internet limit! :D
[11:26] <bigfoot1> dooglus: i'll be right here waiting for you.
[11:26] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  hehe. down wth restrictions and facsism in general !!!
[11:26] <dooglus> mustard5: see the ip address in the ppp0 section?  that's you
[11:26] <leagris> hi all
[11:26] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  it should be ok...... though it will restart the ssh server at some point during upgrade.
[11:26] <tuxedo_kamen> aftertaf, it's really dumb... in portugal, we can only download 1~2 international GB per month, depending on the connection
[11:26] <Kleggas> anyone here tried to run cedega under breezy using radeon dri drivers?
[11:27] <Seveas> tuxedo_kamen, then use a portuguese mirror :)
[11:27] <aftertaf> Seveas:  he is trying to :)
[11:27] <leagris> how do you mount /media/cederom in shell as a user using dbus udev ?
[11:27] <mustard5> dooglus, me looking...
[11:27] <Seveas> #
[11:27] <Seveas> ![Portugal]  [WWW]  ftp://ftp.rnl.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/
[11:27] <Seveas> #
[11:27] <Seveas> ![Portugal]  [WWW]  http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/archive/
[11:27] <ubotu> No idea, Seveas
[11:27] <ubotu> Seveas: Are you smoking crack?
[11:27] <Seveas> meh
[11:28] <bigfoot1> what's the opossite of QT libraries? Kubuntu uses QT. what does ubuntu/gnome use?
[11:28] <leagris> in kde  can type url media://cdrom but how about in cmd line ?  mount only allowd by root
[11:28] <dooglus> mustard5: remember about half an hour ago when I said "is your IP address 211.27.133.29?"  :)
[11:28] <Seveas> bigfoot1, GTK+
[11:28] <aftertaf> loool :)
[11:28] <mustard5> dooglus, yes :)
[11:28] <bigfoot1> Seveas: G stands for gnome?
[11:28] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ does exist....
[11:28] <aftertaf> gimp
[11:28] <Seveas> bigfoot1, no, gimp
[11:28] <tuxedo_kamen> strange
[11:28] <tuxedo_kamen> Seveas, those are the ones I am using! :D
[11:29] <bigfoot1> Seveas: are you serieus.
[11:29] <bigfoot1> serious?
[11:29] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  but it doesnt have a .pt dns ending. so might not be considered noninternational
[11:29] <Seveas> bigfoot1, yup, it
[11:29] <dooglus> mustard5: I tried scanning you there, but got nothing.
[11:29] <frans-th> hi all, anyone can tell me the difference ubuntu 5.1 with edubuntu?
[11:29] <mustard5> dooglus, so basically grc.com is wrong
[11:29] <Seveas> it's the 'gimp toolkit' and was originally developed for the gimp
[11:30] <volvoguy> can you safely force unmount a samba shared drive? this bugger doesn't want to unmount.
[11:30] <mustard5> thats fabulous dooglus, thanks for that
[11:30] <Seveas> frans-th, edubuntu5.10 is ubuntu5.10 suited for LTSP environments
[11:30] <tuxedo_kamen> ok, I think I am updating it...
[11:30] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: you don't need to change mirrors to change from 5.04 to 5.10
[11:30] <mustard5> its freakin me out for a while trying to work itout
[11:30] <Seveas> volvoguy, no it might kill your cat :)
[11:30] <volvoguy> Seveas, dang.
[11:30] <obontu> hello. what are metathemes?
[11:30] <frans-th> Seveas: i got that ubuntu 5.1.0 breeze have ltsp feature :) which i am now learning to use it
[11:30] <Seveas> frans-th, correct, but in the edubuntu that is the primary focus
[11:31] <volvoguy> Seveas, which cat? that one's getting kinda old anyway.
[11:31] <tuxedo_kamen> sn9, but I had hoary...
[11:31] <Seveas> but since it all comes from the same pool, ubuntu and kubuntu have it too
[11:31] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: breezy is on the same mirrors as hoary
[11:31] <aftertaf> mv cat /dev/null
[11:31] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  keep yourmirrors, change all instances of hoary to breezy in your sources.list and apt-get update like a linux addict :)
[11:32] <tuxedo_kamen> I didn't changed mirrors, I just changed the word....
[11:32] <volvoguy> how about a way to figure out why the device is busy?
[11:32] <frans-th> Seveas: i think, to put edubuntu for kindergarten is a good step right
[11:32] <Seveas> volvoguy, lsof /mount/point/of/drive
[11:32] <volvoguy> Seveas, thx.
[11:32] <Seveas> volvoguy, probably it's gam_server
[11:32] <phiqtion> what's the command to change my screen resolution?
[11:32] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  good.   update then upgrade, and do it from within screen, that way tou can disconnect ssh and reconnect :)
[11:33] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: after you "sudo apt-get update" you should "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:33] <tuxedo_kamen> strange.... well, brb
[11:33] <frans-th> Seveas: but can we integate with ubuntu ?
[11:33] <leagris> volvoguy, sudo fuser -v /sambashare
[11:33] <aftertaf> use screen for everything :)
[11:34] <leagris> will show you if a process has a lock on the mount
[11:34] <phiqtion> what's the command to change my screen resolution? in the terminal. thanks
[11:34] <volvoguy> Seveas, leagris, i'm getting no output from either command.
[11:34] <phiqtion> xserv?
[11:34] <sn9> phiqtion: fbset
[11:35] <sn9> phiqtion: oh you mean in X?
[11:35] <phiqtion> yes
[11:35] <sn9> phiqtion: no command. just press ctrl-alt-keypad-+
[11:36] <tuxedo_kamen> strange, it didn't update my version! :|
[11:36] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: after you "sudo apt-get update" you should "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:36] <tuxedo_kamen> how can I check my current one?
[11:36] <dtamas> how can Gmail Notifier start automatically after gmail login?
[11:36] <phiqtion> sn9, no sorry. not for X. for that black screen.
[11:36] <tuxedo_kamen> sn9, yeah, I did that!
[11:36] <dtamas> not gmail login, gdm login :)
[11:36] <generalleoff> k I did not know that... ctrl-alt-keypad +/- is nice
[11:37] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: let me see your new sources.list
[11:37] <phiqtion> sn9, no sorry. not for X. for that black screen.
[11:37] <tuxedo_kamen> it's equal to the old one, except for the breezy instead of hoary|!
[11:37] <sn9> phiqtion: fbset
[11:37] <tuxedo_kamen> it updated some components, but not my version!
[11:37] <volvoguy> Seveas, "lsof: status error on /media/music: Input/output error"
[11:37] <phiqtion> it says, fbset, command not found
[11:38] <phiqtion> sn9: it says, fbset, command not found
[11:38] <volvoguy> Seveas, how bad would it be to unmount the drive on the server end?
[11:38] <sn9> phiqtion: install the pkg that has it
[11:38] <Seveas> volvoguy, just umount -f it on the client side
[11:38] <volvoguy> Seveas, it seems only the samba stuff is hosed.
[11:38] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: let me see your new sources.list
[11:38] <phiqtion> sn9, how. i cant get in X. i need to download it from that black screen
[11:38] <volvoguy> Seveas, -f didn't work.
[11:39] <tuxedo_kamen> here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3228
[11:39] <sn9> phiqtion: sudo apt-get install fbset
[11:40] <tuxedo_kamen> maybe the new version isn't available in the servers yet?
[11:40] <Seveas> unmount -f --try-harder --unmount-my-drive-damn-you
[11:40] <Seveas> ;)
[11:41] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: very strange. dist-upgrade should have upgraded everything after update
[11:41] <volvoguy> dang. even with the drive unmounted on the server end, i can't unmount the samba share on the client. i think it may be time for a logout/login here.
[11:41] <tuxedo_kamen> like I was saying, maybe the new version isn't available in the servers yet?
[11:41] <Seveas> volvoguy, mounting problems may even require a reboot
[11:42] <geoffTheFish> i have installed amarok but am getting some funky error about dcopserver not running
[11:42] <volvoguy> Seveas, ok. I'll BRB. :-)
[11:43] <leagris> how do I mont /media/cdrom as a user in cmd line ?
[11:43] <leagris> is ther an iquivalent of media://cdrom ?
[11:44] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: i just looked at the mirror, and everything appears to be there
[11:45] <Sh|fty> :o
[11:45] <Marko> leagris: you use the mount command.  You have to mount something in your dev folder to wherever you want it mounted
[11:45] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: i figured out your problem!
[11:46] <dtamas> How can autostart porograms?
[11:46] <generalleoff> is there anything for Linux that can fine tune my monitor res/refresh in real time like PowerStrip on Windows?
[11:46] <leagris> Marko, I know the old way to mount block devices as root but how about the removable hting equivallent to media:// usable as a user ?
[11:46] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: you need "main restricted" in breezy, not just breezy-security
[11:46] <tuxedo_kamen> sn9, what is it?
[11:46] <morphix> can anyone help me with apache & configuring to use cgi? pm me plz if so.. thanks
[11:47] <tuxedo_kamen> sn9, should I add main restricted to everything?
[11:48] <Marko> leagris.  That is actually a really good question that I am also looking to find the answer to.  Sorry I can't be more helpful
[11:48] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: add it to the universe lines
[11:48] <dmlinux> Anyone here use Emifreq?
[11:48] <tuxedo_kamen> and do I remove the "universe" word?
[11:48] <Profeta> how to change the grub appearence ? Here its black and white!
[11:48] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: no
[11:49] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: "main restricted universe"
[11:49] <phiqtion> Profeta: http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:49] <Sh|fty> that site rox
[11:49] <tuxedo_kamen> what about the "multiverse"? Should I add it there, too?
[11:49] <Sh|fty> its outdated for some parts
[11:49] <Sh|fty> but it rox
[11:49] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: you can leave that alone
[11:49] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[11:49] <stimpie> someone knows how to disable the trash-bin on removable media?
[11:49] <Profeta> phiqtion, thanks
[11:50] <tuxedo_kamen> well, I'll try now, but it seems better
[11:50] <phiqtion> Profeta: np
[11:50] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: after you "sudo apt-get update" again, you should "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" again
[11:50] <pschulz01> Greetings.. what rss client do ubuntu people use/prefer?
[11:50] <tuxedo_kamen> o_O
[11:50] <tuxedo_kamen> obtaining package 3 of 992
[11:51] <tuxedo_kamen> is this normal? O_o
[11:51] <Hobbsee> pschulz01: kubuntu user, but i use akregator
[11:51] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: yes
[11:51] <Hobbsee> tuxedo_kamen: for a dist upgrade?   yep
[11:51] <pschulz01> Hobbsee: do you know how this comapres with yarssr
[11:51] <dmlinux> sn9 can you tell me what http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3229 means :(
[11:52] <phiqtion> how do i use fbset? i need to bring up the X server in VMWARE.
[11:52] <Hobbsee> pschulz01: sorry, no, never heard of yarssr
[11:52] <Profeta> phiqtion, good guide, but there isnt the answer for my question :(
[11:52] <Ng> dmlinux: install libglib2.0-dev
[11:52] <sn9> phiqtion: "man fbset" should tell you
[11:53] <Sh|fty> :o
[11:53] <pschulz01> Hobbsee: Yet another rss reader.
[11:53] <phiqtion> Profeta: yes it is, i will get it now for you.
[11:53] <Hobbsee> pschulz01: it looks nice, for gnome obviously, not sure if it'll notify you of new feeds...
[11:53] <dmlinux> ng trying that :)
[11:53] <TTilus> bigfoot1: sorry the delay
[11:53] <pschulz01> Hobbsee: does the kubuntu reader do that?
[11:54] <rempresent> has anyone installed the ati driver in breezy, there isn't anything on it in the wiki
[11:54] <TTilus> bigfoot1: page does not tell about debian version the deb is for
[11:54] <dmlinux> NG gtk+2.0 ?
[11:54] <tuxedo_kamen> well, I am updating it
[11:54] <tuxedo_kamen> just hope this doesn't ruin my ssh! >_<
[11:55] <mishof> how do i extract a .gz file ? (not .tar.gz)
[11:55] <Ng> mishof: gunzip
[11:55] <sn9> mishof: gunzip
[11:55] <Hobbsee> pschulz01: yes, i think other rss readers would do it too.  akregator requires kde
[11:55] <mishof> Ng, sn9 thanks
[11:55] <TTilus> bigfoot1: temporarily adding universe and multiverse to your repositories could help
[11:55] <phiqtion> Profeta: http://ubuntuguide.org/#convertwallpapertosplashimagegrub
[11:55] <TTilus> bigfoot1: ...to satisfy the dependencies
[11:55] <dmlinux> NG http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3230
[11:56] <tuxedo_kamen> hey, I am curious about something... what is universe and multiverse?
[11:56] <Hobbsee> !tell tuxedo_kamen about repositories
[11:56] <pschulz01> Hobbsee: isn't firefox ment to support rss?
[11:56] <Marko> anyone tried gnomoradio?
[11:56] <phiqtion> Profeta: http://ubuntuguide.org/#displaysplashimagegrub
[11:56] <Hobbsee> pschulz01: it does
[11:56] <Ng> dmlinux: for each of those "checking for" things it lists, you will need the corresponding -dev package installed
[11:56] <dmlinux> Ng can i use synapstic to dl them
[11:56] <sn9> TTilus: bigfoot1 already has uni- and multi-
[11:57] <Marko> I get "Audio::Ogg: libao failed to open audio device
[11:57] <Marko> " when I play something in gnomoradio
[11:57] <Hobbsee> pschulz01: not managed to be able to get it to notify me of new feeds, but havent tried hard, it's probably simple enough
[11:57] <pschulz01> hobbsee: Hmmm.. I'll have to try that out..
[11:57] <TTilus> sn9: mm
[11:57] <tuxedo_kamen> another thing... how can I join the official translation team?
[11:57] <dmlinux> Ng i guess not, how do i find these DEB packages.
[11:57] <pschulz01> Anyone else using or can recommend and rss reader?
[11:57] <phiqtion> sn9: how do i exit that Man guide and go back to the terminal?
[11:57] <Profeta> phiqtion, 1x0 for you
[11:57] <tuxedo_kamen> phiqtion, press "q"
[11:58] <pschulz01> Hobbsee: Does it support 'podcasts'.
[11:58] <TTilus> bigfoot1: if you already have uni- and multi- you propably gotta go for debian testing repositories
[11:58] <Hobbsee> pschulz01: no idea, checked google for it?
[11:58] <TTilus> bigfoot1: however, be informed that you are on somewhat thin ice
[11:58] <Ng> dmlinux: syanptic should be fine, search for "libgnomeui" for example and you'll see libgnomeui-dev, which is the one you need if oyu want to compile something that uses it
[11:59] <zaydana> does anybody have any idea why dns keeps resolving everything to 1.0.0.0 in 5.10?
[11:59] <zaydana> whereas on the same machine in windows
[11:59] <zaydana> same settings
[11:59] <zaydana> i get the right address
[11:59] <sn9> dmlinux: what are you compiling?
[11:59] <dmlinux> sn9 emifreq
[11:59] <TTilus> bigfoot1: if you _really_ want, you can grab packages from deb repos, but make sure you make it strictly temporarily
[11:59] <egoleo> i have a dvd movie titled Solaris
[11:59] <egoleo> i want to watch it with my Ubuntu breezy
[12:00] <egoleo> but it gives me this error
[12:00] <TTilus> bigfoot1: in general its not particularily good idea to install something other than supported ubuntu debs
[12:00] <egoleo> that the movie is encryted
[12:00] <egoleo> can someone help me as to how to go abt it
[12:00] <sn9> dmlinux: why not just apt-get install it?
[12:00] <egoleo> to watch
[12:00] <dmlinux> sn9 the new version isnt on it
[12:00] <Ng> egoleo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:00] <TTilus> bigfoot1: not that people (including myself) wouldnt do that :)
[12:00] <tuxedo_kamen> how can I join the official translation team?
[12:00] <bArAk> Hi! i upgraded from hoary to breezy - everything is cool except for random locks of the machine! only reboot recovers from it - any idea?
[12:01] <TTilus> bArAk: logs?
[12:01] <sn9> dmlinux: then you need to do "sudo apt-get build-dep emifreq"
[12:01] <TTilus> anything interesting there
[12:01] <egoleo> Ng trying that
[12:01] <bArAk> nothing on the logs - the box just freezes !
[12:01] <phiqtion> sn9, can i set up the X server with the ubuntu installation CD?
[12:01] <Underhill> what were you doing when it freezes?
[12:01] <TTilus> bArAk: nothing?  theres always something!
[12:01] <dmlinux> sn9 hmm
[12:01] <TTilus> bArAk: what are last things before freeze?
[12:02] <bArAk> i searched alot on google and the forums - i almost thought i had it when i took off "powernowd" from running.. but last night i had another freeze
[12:02] <dmlinux> sn9 does that seek out the new version?
[12:02] <TTilus> bArAk: can you log in remotely?  can you switch to text console?
[12:02] <sn9> phiqtion: it should have set up an X server when you installed
[12:02] <tuxedo_kamen> >_>
[12:02] <tuxedo_kamen> nobody knows the answer?
[12:02] <bArAk> ttilus - nothing special - sometimes while surfing the web - sometimes when i return to the box and it is freezed on the screen saver..
[12:02] <sn9> dmlinux: it installs all the pkgs you need to compile
[12:02] <phiqtion> sn9: im trying to run ubuntu in vmware. the x server doesn't start. can you help me?
[12:03] <TTilus> tuxedo_kamen: doesn't ubuntu website help you?
[12:03] <rem> hey, anyone knows of a program to modify pdf files .. ?
[12:03] <tuxedo_kamen> i don't know...
[12:03] <sn9> phiqtion: what's the error?
[12:03] <bArAk> ttilus - nothing ! it is freezed, locked up ! :/
[12:03] <tuxedo_kamen> i just wanted to join the team!
[12:03] <dmlinux> sn9 i have the one from synaptic, so idk :( ill try that once this is down downloading
[12:03] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: there are instructions on how to join on the website
[12:03] <TTilus> bArAk: can you log in remotely?  can you switch to text console?
[12:03] <tuxedo_kamen> hum, ok
[12:03] <bArAk> ttilus - nope
[12:04] <TTilus> tried remotely?
[12:04] <bArAk> ttilus - i found another guy on the forums with the sape problem
[12:04] <rem> hey, anyone knows of a program to modify pdf files .. ?
[12:04] <TTilus> bArAk: try running without X for a while
[12:04] <bArAk> oh remotely - no - i will try next time it freezes
[12:05] <Ng> rem: there pretty much aren't any. Adobe Acrobat can make limited modifications, otherwise you will need to import it into a graphics package and export it again afterwards
[12:05] <TTilus> bArAk: aahhh... try it, if you can get in you can poke around and see whats locked
[12:05] <bArAk> ttilus - if i'll draw back to the hoary kernel - i'll lose some major upgrades of breezy?
[12:05] <morphix> ok.. can someone PLEASE help.. all i need is to know is what i have to change in apache config to allow cgi's to be executed.
[12:05] <TTilus> bArAk: ive got a feeling that its x
[12:05] <ompaul> bArAk, make sure before it freezes that you have the sshd setup so that you can log in :)
[12:06] <TTilus> ompaul: good point
[12:06] <rem> i read flpsed could do it, but it couldnt open my pdf file .. :( ...ok
[12:06] <bArAk> ompaul - oh right, it is not default, thnx ;] 
[12:06] <ompaul> bArAk, as I found out to my cost :-)
[12:06] <TTilus> bArAk: ive had one complete freeze with ubuntu
[12:06] <bArAk> :] 
[12:06] <phiqtion> :D
[12:06] <bArAk> ttilus - and if it is X, how do i reinstall it ?
[12:06] <TTilus> bArAk: that was ati (proprietary) display driver
[12:06] <sn9> phiqtion: what's the error?
[12:07] <bArAk> hmmm, i'm using intel built in - it's ibm pentium M thinkpad
[12:07] <TTilus> bArAk: reinstall?  i would try to use comp without x and see if it still locks up
[12:07] <TTilus> bArAk: then propably (if it is x) go and drop configuration to minimum (leave out modules and go for vga driver)
[12:07] <bArAk> ttilus - sure, but what should i do if it will probably be a x trouble ?
[12:07] <bArAk> oh
[12:08] <phiqtion> sn9: failed to start the X server
[12:08] <bArAk> i'll have to figure out how i do that
[12:08] <zaydana> has anmybody got any idea why dns would only be working in firefox in 5.10?
[12:08] <zaydana> i get 1.0.0.0 when i try to resolve anything not in firefox
[12:08] <TTilus> bArAk: sudo emacs /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[12:08] <sn9> phiqtion: i mean what are the EE lines in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[12:08] <zax> how do i mount my usb drive
[12:09] <bArAk> ttilus - ok, thnx a lot. i'll start with the remot login ... ! ;] 
[12:09] <TTilus> bArAk: :D
[12:09] <zax> mount /dev/sda ?
[12:09] <zax> something
[12:09] <zax> i need 2 specifiy file sys 2
[12:09] <Marko> zaydana: does it have that IP address when you try to ping a server?
[12:09] <TTilus> bArAk: there must be fancy gui conf gizmos floating around, but i dont really use them so i dont know about them
[12:09] <zaydana> hmm, i don't think so
[12:09] <zaydana> i think ping works as well
[12:10] <ompaul> zaydana, what ip do you get when you cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:10] <zaydana> i have 192.168.1.1 in resolv.conf
[12:10] <ompaul> zaydana, for the nameserver
[12:10] <Marko> zaydana: so what doesn't work?
[12:10] <zax> how do u mount the usb external drive
[12:10] <zaydana> well, for a start
[12:10] <zax> its so easy i forget htough
[12:10] <zaydana> x-chat resiolves _everything_ to 1.0.0.0
[12:10] <zaydana> synapse does the same
[12:10] <dm_> sn9 hey can you tell me that command for the deb
[12:10] <zaydana> firefox will actually resolve stuff properly
[12:10] <sn9> dm_: to install?
[12:11] <dm_> sn9 yeah you told me a command to update all the devs or something
[12:11] <ompaul> zaydana, have you some firewall in place?
[12:11] <zaydana> nup
[12:11] <dm_> sn9 my comp crashed, was doing too much at once :P
[12:11] <zaydana> i'm running on a router tho
[12:11] <zaydana> however -
[12:11] <sn9> dm_: you're confusing me
[12:11] <ompaul> zaydana, does it have rules?
[12:11] <zaydana> everything reslved properly in 5.04
[12:11] <zaydana> and it all resolves properly in windows
[12:11] <zaydana> so its definitely a 5.10 problem
[12:12] <dm_> sn9 you told me soeme apt-get install deb
[12:12] <SamStar> Hey, how can i setup default programs to open for instance mp3's he's now using totem vid player and i want to use XMMS
[12:12] <ompaul> zaydana, a few obvious questions to help ones brain try to picture what has and has not happened
[12:12] <zaydana> ompaul - do you think it cuold possibly be to do with ipv6?
[12:12] <shinu> how do i make my 'backspace' work properly, for example in a manpage when i do a search with / it doesnt let me use it.
[12:12] <sn9> dm_: what did you want to install?
[12:12] <zax> mount /dev/sda ?
[12:12] <ompaul> zaydana, ifconfig and see if you have an ipv4 address
[12:13] <zaydana> the ipv4 addrses is 192.168.1.101
[12:13] <zaydana> ompaul - btw, i'm in windows atm. i can't use x-chat cos of no dns
[12:13] <zaydana> i shuold probably write down the ip and come back
[12:13] <dm_> sn9 emifreq, but remember i told you i needed the new version and synaptic didnt have the new version
[12:13] <SamStar> Hey, how can i setup default programs to open for instance mp3's he's now using totem vid player and i want to use XMMS
[12:13] <ompaul> zaydana, okay so boot it and check that
[12:13] <zaydana> but yeah - i know its got an ip address
[12:14] <zax> how do u mount the usb external drive
[12:14] <zaydana> cos i set it all up manually (/etc/network/interfaces)
[12:14] <zaydana> with static
[12:14] <ompaul> zaydana, have you two machines?
[12:14] <dm_> zax if you are using breezy, it should do it for you
[12:14] <zaydana> 3.
[12:14] <sn9> dm_: i told you to "sudo apt-get build-dep emifreq" to install what you would need in order to compile
[12:14] <oscarh> hi, does anyone know the status of the keyboard layout problems? which is the correct bug report for this?
[12:14] <Marko> samstar:right click an mp3.  Select properties.  select open with tab
[12:14] <ompaul> zaydana, do any others run ubuntu?
[12:14] <dm_> sn9 thats it thank you
[12:14] <zax> i doesnt i just forgot the command
[12:14] <zaydana> not atm
[12:14] <zaydana> plus i only got an intall cd, not a live
[12:15] <zaydana> ompaul - i'm gonna boot into ubuntu ... brb
[12:15] <ompaul> zaydana, how about doing this, get a liveCD and see if it can bring the box up, if it can't
[12:15] <dm_> mount :P
[12:15] <ompaul> so much for that
[12:15] <vinboy> hi guys
[12:15] <Sh|fty> bbs food :D
[12:15] <zax> com one
[12:15] <vinboy> is there any nice mail notification applet?
[12:15] <SamStar> Marko, Thx :)
[12:15] <mahangu_> vinboy, yes there is
[12:15] <augustin> hello
[12:16] <SamStar> are there some shooter games for Linux ?
[12:16] <vinboy> mahangu, any good suggestion?
[12:16] <mahangu_> vinboy, apt-cache search mail notification applet
[12:16] <dazvid> SamStar, ut2k4 has a native linux installed on the cd/dvd
[12:16] <mahangu_> vinboy, or synaptic
[12:16] <vinboy> mahangu, thanks
[12:16] <ompaul> SamStar, you can also do americas army
[12:16] <dazvid> SamStar, also check out "Nexuiz" its ok.. nothing like Hl2 or whatever
[12:16] <mahangu_> vinboy, np
[12:16] <dazvid> oh oh and Doom3
[12:16] <mahangu_> ompaul, america's army is OS?
[12:17] <mahangu_> or it's commercial for linux?
[12:17] <dazvid> im currently installing HL2 though (finally)
[12:17] <ompaul> os
[12:17] <mahangu_> what?
[12:17] <augustin> i want to set-up a Wi-Fi link between two machines, one under Ubuntu, the other under WinXP. Ubuntu would act as a gateway for the XP machine.
[12:17] <mahangu_> synaptic?
[12:17] <Marko> vinboy: I use mail-notification.  I really want to use the 2.0 version, but I couldn't get all the libraries to compile it
[12:17] <zax> its a fat32
[12:17] <Seveas> augustin, then install firestarter n the ubuntu machine
[12:17] <augustin> anything i should know ? or is it easy to do ? also, will two regular Wi-Fi card be enough (the comps are close to each other), for example USB Wi-Fi cards ?
[12:17] <ompaul> na its a download from their site - actually I'm not sure about the openness of it now that I think about it
[12:18] <augustin> Seveas, already done, since i already use it as a gateway, but through an Ethernet card
[12:18] <Marko> I fear america's army.  I'm far too draftable to play that
[12:18] <vinboy> Marko, :)
[12:18] <leagris> America's army yep, propaganda softaware it is :)
[12:18] <ompaul> this is it
[12:18] <ompaul> totally propaganda
[12:18] <augustin> i just wanted if i had something to know BEFORE i buy the Wi-Fi card, like "Ubuntu doesn't recognize Sony Wi-Fi laptop cards" =)
[12:19] <dazvid> Funny thing is, the army doesn't deny it being propaganda :)
[12:19] <zaydana> ompaul, i'm in ubuntu now
[12:19] <ompaul> zaydana, the bad box ?
[12:19] <leagris> frozen bubble, is less likely propaganda though ;o)
[12:19] <zaydana> yup
[12:19] <Marko> totally
[12:19] <ompaul> zaydana, when bad boxes go good ??
[12:19] <zaydana> no
[12:19] <zaydana> remember how ping works?
[12:20] <zaydana> i pinged the irc server, got the address, and connected manually :)
[12:20] <ompaul> zaydana, icmp
[12:20] <zaydana> synaptic and x-chat are still having troubles getting anything except 1.0.0.0 out of it
[12:20] <zaydana> yah
[12:20] <mahangu_> anybody else here played america's army?
[12:20] <ompaul> zaydana, and it has an ipv4 address but nothing is resolving
[12:20] <zaydana> yeah
[12:21] <zaydana> well, it resolvse in firefox
[12:21] <zaydana> that is the weird thing
[12:21] <leagris> zaydana, lightweight irc client: telnet irc.freenode.net 6667 :)
[12:21] <mahangu_> ubotu, tell augustin about wifi
[12:21] <zaydana> heh k
[12:21] <zaydana> ok, thats weird
[12:21] <zaydana> telnet resolves the address
[12:21] <Marko> hey I can't have the audio from frozen bubble at the same time as rhythmbox.  Anyone know how to fix that?
[12:21] <ompaul> zaydana, okay that looks like something is strange in your setup
[12:21] <zaydana> ompaul, actually...
[12:21] <ompaul> zaydana, very strange
[12:22] <zaydana> it resolves the address properly after you ping the address
[12:22] <zaydana> but before you ping the address, 1.0.0.0
[12:22] <Marko> says "failed to close audio output sink
[12:22] <leagris> how about: dig irc.freenode.net +trace to actually show how it resolves ?
[12:22] <SamStar> how can i open java apps ?
[12:22] <dooglus> jeez.  I just portscanned myself (the router) using grc.com and found that port 80 was open.  I connected to port 80 and got a login prompt, telling me default:admin/1234.  tried it, and it worked.  then tried it from an external shell and it also worked!  my router was set up with default admin login and password globally accessible
[12:22] <zaydana> or not
[12:22] <zaydana> gah this is pissing me off
[12:23] <zaydana> yeah i was right...
[12:23] <dooglus> Marko: use a different sound system  ALSA maybe
[12:23] <ompaul> zaydana, okay got etherreal on the box or on the network?
[12:23] <zaydana> nup, whats that?
[12:23] <Marko> I am using alsa :(
[12:23] <ompaul> zaydana, a packet sniffer, it will tell you the conversation that is being tried by the machine
[12:23] <dooglus> Marko: for both programs?
[12:24] <mahangu_> torcs loads up, but when i click start race, it just disappears
[12:24] <mahangu_> any ideas?
[12:24] <SamStar> How can i run Java games
[12:24] <zaydana> k
[12:24] <SamStar> games = apps
[12:24] <SamStar> like Azureus ?
[12:24] <ompaul> zaydana, you need to have scrolling output on the screen and log it so see the conversations
[12:24] <Marko> I open the multimedia selector and press the test button when frozen bubble is open and it gives the same error.  Maybe I need to change a setting in frozen bubble
[12:24] <sn9> SamStar: did you install java?
[12:24] <zaydana> ompaul, hmmk, il'l try get it with synapse
[12:24] <ompaul> zaydana, don't know it
[12:25] <SamStar> nope, so h ow do i do install java ;)
[12:25] <zaydana> synaptic*
[12:25] <sn9> !tell SamStar about w32deb
[12:25] <JimTimBim> Hi, is just installed 5.1 and during boot it stops at "Starting hotplug subsystem" on my deaktop (intel D915GLVG). any idea what I can do about that? (and i am new to linux)
[12:25] <mahangu_> i want to try some really heavy games
[12:25] <mahangu_> any ideas?
[12:25] <ompaul> sn9, w32codecs
[12:25] <duckspeak> re-boot
[12:25] <mahangu_> graphically hungry i mean
[12:26] <leagris> j2re is what you need to run java applications
[12:26] <zaydana> ompaul, the other thing is (dunno if it is any help) is that every time i reboot the dns server address resets back to 127.0.0.1
[12:26] <phiqtion> sn9: about the X server... "No devices detected"
[12:26] <SamStar> sn8, whitch one do i need to download ?
[12:26] <zaydana> so i need to manually change it to 192.168.1.1 every time
[12:26] <Marko> games are the only reason I dual boot
[12:26] <dm_> n9 hey can you repeat that apt-get one more time please
[12:26] <sn9> ompaul: for .debs of java?
[12:26] <ompaul> zaydana, well that should not happen
[12:26] <zaydana> yeah, that figures
[12:26] <dm_> sn9 i should just write it down :P
[12:26] <ompaul> sn9 no w32deb = w32codecs
[12:26] <augustin> mahangu, thanks, i have read the faq, i was expecting something special for Sony, and THAT i could not find in the wiki. of course, maybe i have not looked properly, in which case any direction is aprpeciated
[12:26] <dm_> sn9 hey can you repeat that apt-get one more time please
[12:27] <sn9> dm_: i told you to "sudo apt-get build-dep emifreq" to install what you would need in order to compile
[12:27] <Marko> I think frozen bubble doesn't know how to share sound
[12:27] <dm_> sn9 thanks again
[12:27] <ompaul> zaydana, pppoeconf
[12:27] <leagris> Marko, if you want to get ride of dual boot for games, you should have a try with wine or cedega (commercial)
[12:27] <sn9> SamStar: 1.5
[12:27] <ompaul> zaydana, that is presuming broadband and ethernet
[12:27] <zaydana> well, ethernet is right
[12:27] <dm_> sn9 says unable to find :(
[12:27] <SamStar> is there an direct link, couze torrent insnt working :(
[12:27] <leagris> I played World Of Warcraft with cedega every evening theses last months
[12:27] <zaydana> the modem/router is running NAT tho
[12:27] <zaydana> so theoretically all i need to do is set the gatway and the nameserver
[12:27] <ompaul> zaydana, so use that little program and tell it to pull a dhcp address
[12:28] <Marko> unfortunately Battlefield 2 isn't well supported under wine/cedega
[12:28] <phiqtion> sn9: about the X server... "No devices detected"
[12:28] <sn9> ompaul: w32deb has the .debs for java
[12:28] <zaydana> dhcp is off
[12:28] <ompaul> sn9, I learnt something
[12:28] <zaydana> i could enable it i guess
[12:28] <ompaul> zaydana, might just have something to do with it
[12:28] <sn9> dm_: find what?
[12:28] <sn9> phiqtion: the EE lines?
[12:29] <zaydana> indeed it would - but i've never heard of a network system which _required_ DHCP before
[12:29] <Marko> Is there any way to force frozen bubble to use alsa?
[12:29] <dm_> sn9 nm , ill just work on it , ty for your time :) you are always so helpful
[12:29] <zaydana> wait, its actually on
[12:29] <ompaul> !w32deb
[12:29] <ubotu> w32deb is, like, download a ready to use w32codecs deb at http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (hoary) or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (breezy)
[12:29] <zaydana> i never disabled it on this router
[12:29] <ompaul> !java
[12:29] <ubotu> methinks java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[12:29] <phiqtion> sn9: EE lines: No devices detected, fatal server error: no screens found.
[12:29] <SamStar> !tell samstar about w32codecs
[12:30] <zaydana> ompaul, i've got that ethereal program now
[12:30] <spear> hi !
[12:30] <sn9> phiqtion: which video card is vmware set to emulate?
[12:30] <zax> how do i mount my externall maxtor drive it is in fat32?
[12:31] <phiqtion> sn9: i am running Ubuntu inside VmWare inside windows xp. my xserver was set-up 1280x798. i guess vmware set up 480.
[12:31] <spear> zax mount -t vfat
[12:31] <odd-> I recently got hoary, but gcc isn't included in the packages, do i need to download gcc and the libs again aswell?
[12:31] <odd-> I should really go with slack.
[12:31] <zax> spear: i did not do anything
[12:31] <koxel> Hi Everyone :)
[12:31] <koxel> excuse me..
[12:31] <sn9> phiqtion: yeah but which virtual card?
[12:31] <spear> it's an usb disk ?
[12:31] <Profeta> hey guyz, how to start gdesklets on the beginning of gnome ?
[12:31] <Marko> Samstar w32codecs are the closed source codecs like the ones used by microsoft, realplayer, and apple
[12:31] <spear> hi koxel
[12:31] <koxel> i have problem ...;;;
[12:32] <bigfoot1> guys, if you don't have the notification applet open, how can you use programs like skype or gaim? Is it possible?
[12:32] <koxel> i typed 'apt-get update' but GPGerrors.
[12:32] <SamStar> i know already, but there is an direct link to the jr2e
[12:32] <aftertaf> odd, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:32] <koxel> reason is "Unknown error executing gpgv"
[12:32] <sn9> Profeta: session prefs
[12:32] <phiqtion> sn9. i guess generic. how do i find that?
[12:32] <koxel> How do i?
[12:32] <spear> zax ... it is an usb disk ?
[12:32] <aftertaf> odd-:   sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:32] <zax> well its connected by usb
[12:32] <SamStar> when i have downloaded the jr2e for java, how do i install it?
[12:32] <odd-> Thanks.
[12:32] <odd-> Just a sec.
[12:32] <spear> and when you plug it, it's notdetected ?
[12:32] <zax> i think i need to run it as a scsi
[12:32] <zax> nope
[12:33] <spear> weird
[12:33] <zax> just my cd rom
[12:33] <zaydana> ompaul, i tried connecting to a new server and captured the response
[12:33] <sn9> phiqtion: somewhere in vmware's settings i guess
[12:33] <spear> you use hoar/breezy ?
[12:33] <spear> hoary
[12:33] <zax> dunno...
[12:33] <zaydana> for some reason the router is telling me 1.0.0.0
[12:33] <zaydana> but it only does it in 5.10
[12:33] <zax> i got it to work before
[12:33] <SamStar> marko how do i install java when i have downloaded it ?
[12:33] <zax> some guy just gave me a bunch of command line to put in and i did and it mounted like that
[12:33] <spear> and suddenly it doessn't work anymore ?
[12:33] <bigfoot1> there are some programs that only run in the notification applet area. Some I can think of are skype and gaim. What happens if you close down the notification applet? How can you use these kind of programs?
[12:33] <spear> what did you do ?
[12:33] <zax> well i re installed
[12:33] <koxel> if GPG Errors "Unknown error executing gpgv", how do i ?
[12:33] <sn9> SamStar: dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:34] <zax> long story
[12:34] <spear> ah ...
[12:34] <zax> but he made it work thourgh commands
[12:34] <SamStar> and what's the sudo command than ?
[12:34] <kbrooks> !root
[12:34] <spear> do some other usb peripherals work ?
[12:34] <ubotu> methinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:34] <sn9> SamStar: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:34] <zax> the mouse
[12:34] <zax> lol
[12:34] <spear> ok ... so usb works
[12:34] <phiqtion> sn9: the vmware i have installed doesn't have an option to emulate a video card.
[12:34] <zax> yup
[12:35] <Marko> samstar: I remember just following instructions from the forum on how to install java.  I forgot how to now
[12:35] <kbrooks> marko.
[12:35] <spear> hmmm ... let me check
[12:35] <sn9> phiqtion: is it the ubuntu livecd, or did you install?
[12:35] <kbrooks> !javadeb
[12:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[12:35] <zax> ok
[12:35] <Profeta> hey guyz, someone found this package: gstreamer0.8-lame
[12:35] <Profeta> ?
[12:36] <phiqtion> sn9, i installed in a ext3 partition already. im just booting it up in vmware.
[12:36] <sn9> phiqtion: and vmware settings during installation were the same as now?
[12:36] <SamStar> sn9, now i have installed the .deb, and how do i run java apps ? now?
[12:36] <spear> does the gnome-volume-manager see the disk ?
[12:36] <SamStar> (.jar files)
[12:37] <phiqtion> sn9: what do you mean same as now? i just did the usual configuration.
[12:37] <zax> nope
[12:37] <sn9> SamStar: java -jar jarfile.jar, or use the wrapper script
[12:38] <sn9> phiqtion: let's try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:38] <SamStar> sn9: the app isn't running
[12:39] <sn9> SamStar: which app is it?
[12:39] <SamStar> azureus
[12:39] <limplenny> hello
[12:39] <spear> did you try to mount it manually ?
[12:39] <sn9> SamStar: azureus has a wrapper script. just execute it
[12:39] <zax> ya i dunno the freakin command
[12:39] <Sh|fty> just use torrentflux
[12:40] <aftertaf> !tell zax about mount
[12:40] <SamStar> when i am execute the file it opens the archive manager
[12:41] <kbrooks> a jar file is just a zip file
[12:41] <spear> its is formated in ext2, fat or whatelse ?
[12:41] <sn9> SamStar: execute the wrapper script. don't touch azureus's .jar file
[12:41] <SamStar> i only have the .jar file...
[12:41] <spear> the command looks like : mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /mnt
[12:42] <sn9> SamStar: where did you get it?
[12:42] <ftwig> i've just changed my hostname in /etc/hostname and rebooted.  Looks like I need to also change it in /etc/hosts but as I changed hostname cant get sudo prov;(
[12:42] <zax> !windowsdrives
[12:42] <ubotu> well, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:42] <zax> fat32
[12:42] <zax> !tell zax about windowsdrives
[12:42] <spear> so it is -t vfat
[12:42] <SamStar> on azureus.sourceforge.net
[12:43] <spear> mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt (example)
[12:43] <nadien> hi
[12:43] <spear> depending on where you want it mounted, and what it's name is
[12:43] <sn9> SamStar: you can delete that. go back and download the full pkg, not just the jarfile
[12:43] <nadien> i am prostitute
[12:43] <dazvid> SamStar, what are you trying to do?
[12:43] <SamStar> full pkg...
[12:43] <SamStar> i want to have azureus
[12:43] <nadien> sucks dick
[12:43] <dazvid> Just download the .tar.gz file from the azureus page
[12:43] <dazvid> unextract it
[12:44] <zax> oh crap it mounted
[12:44] <dazvid> and then run the program from the folder that gets extracted :D
[12:44] <nadien> rm -rf/
[12:44] <zax> u have to go into mnt though
[12:44] <zax> u cant
[12:44] <nadien> rm -rf/
[12:44] <sn9> SamStar: download the full azuresus pkg
[12:44] <zax> i mean it dosent show up in computer
[12:44] <SamStar> there are 4 linux pkg's
[12:44] <nadien> rm -rf/
[12:44] <dazvid> Yeh, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[12:45] <odd-> My net's shitty.
[12:45] <SamStar> latest
[12:45] <spear> you can't go in /mnt ?
[12:45] <kbrooks> nadien: No
[12:45] <SamStar> breezy ?
[12:45] <zax> no u have to
[12:45] <dazvid> i meant like, amd64 one .. etc
[12:45] <koxel> Who know reason of GPG errors "Unknown error executing gpgv" ?
[12:45] <SamStar> nope486
[12:45] <dazvid> ok
[12:45] <nadien> rm -rf/
[12:45] <dazvid> just get the Linux GTK one
[12:45] <spear> you have to open a terminal window zax
[12:45] <nadien> rm -rf/
[12:45] <dazvid> its a .tar.bz2 file
[12:45] <sn9> SamStar: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/azureus/Azureus_2.3.0.4_linux.GTK.tar.bz2?download
[12:45] <moshe> good morning
[12:46] <spear> hi moshe
[12:46] <ftwig> i've just changed my hostname in /etc/hostname and rebooted.  Looks like I need to also change it in /etc/hosts but as I changed hostname cant get sudo prov;(
[12:46] <SamStar> ok already have it, and than just execute it ?
[12:46] <dazvid> unzip it first
[12:46] <kbrooks> nadien: Do not flood the chan with commands like those -- dangerous commands like 'rm -rf /'.
[12:46] <dazvid> bunzip <filename>
[12:46] <dazvid> maybe bunzip2
[12:46] <dazvid> just hit tab to complete the name :)
[12:46] <spear> does someone know if Usplash has the same requisites as bootsplash or is it something totally different in needs and parameters (ie the kernel parameters)
[12:46] <sn9> SamStar: extract the tarfile with tar xjf filename.tar.bz2
[12:47] <nadien> ssh
[12:47] <dazvid> sn9, dont you have to use bunzip for .bz2 files ?
[12:47] <kbrooks> nadien: why are you doing so
[12:47] <Profeta> k3b is for kde, and for gnome ?
[12:47] <aftertaf> !ops
[12:47] <ubotu> ops is, like, totally, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[12:47] <sn9> dazvid: no
[12:47] <moshe> I edited xorg.conf so that my highest resolution would be 1152x864 but kde and gnome and the rest behave like it's 1280x1024 and the screen isn't big enough -- bringing the mouse to the edge of the screen causes the entire screen to scroll!
[12:47] <SamStar> ok and than i have alot of new files ;)
[12:47] <odd-> I hate it when my net's shitty.
[12:47] <SamStar> and which one do i ineed?
[12:47] <Seveas> aftertaf, ?
[12:47] <dazvid> just run azureus by typing azureus :)
[12:47] <sn9> SamStar: the one named "azureus"
[12:48] <SamStar> super it's working thx :)
[12:48] <spear> so, no idea if usplash=bootsplash with ameliorations or something totally different ?
[12:48] <kbrooks> Seveas: someone was "flooding" dangerous commands like 'rm -rf /'
[12:48] <Seveas> ah
[12:48] <aftertaf> Seveas:  did you get PM?
[12:48] <kbrooks> Seveas: technically it wasnt a flood
[12:48] <aftertaf> kbrooks:  nope, but it is stupid and pointless ...
[12:49] <odd-> Why do alot of people hate ubuntu?
[12:49] <kbrooks> Seveas: +r the channel please
[12:49] <odd-> I mean, it's not half bad.
[12:49] <Seveas> I've made a few aliases in my chatclient
[12:49] <Profeta> where I find w32codecs ?
[12:49] <Seveas>  /rm == kick
[12:49] <Seveas>  /rm -rf == ban
[12:49] <moshe> does anyone know how I can get the screen to resize accordingly to my xorg.conf?
[12:49] <odd-> Heh.
[12:49] <dazvid> !tell Profeta about w32codecs
[12:49] <spear> hehe i gve up :)
[12:49] <spear> give
[12:49] <kbrooks> odd-: what do u mean why
[12:49] <aftertaf> odd-:  either elite pointlessness, or personal uselessness.....
[12:49] <aftertaf> lol Seveas :)
[12:49] <spear> i'll post on the ubuntu forum
[12:50] <sn9> !tell Profeta about javadeb
[12:50] <aftertaf> spear:  you are here :)
[12:50] <kbrooks> aftertaf: none of those
[12:50] <odd-> Hah!
[12:50] <kbrooks> *explains*
[12:50] <odd-> (My net sucks, I'm lagging somewhat.
[12:50] <aftertaf> kbrooks:  im not feelinginspired today...
[12:50] <spear> i'm here yes :)
[12:50] <kbrooks> aftertaf: sometimes people dont like ubuntu because they were once newbies and grown out of ubuntu too fast
[12:50] <spear> the channel's too busy i guess :)
[12:50] <aftertaf> lol spear i.e. the ubuntu helo channel.
[12:51] <aftertaf> spear:  ask away
[12:51] <aftertaf> usplash vs bootsplash ?
[12:51] <aftertaf> kbrooks:  yeah but you can get around the newb friendly stuff and access the power of debian, no?
[12:51] <odd-> who uses lynx?
[12:51] <spear> i have a home made kernel from kernel.org ... are the kernel prerequisites for usplash same as for bootsplash or different ?
[12:52] <Marko> how do I list the channels on an irc server?
[12:52] <kbrooks> lol
[12:52] <kbrooks> brb
[12:52] <aftertaf> no idea...
[12:52] <kbrooks> i'll test this out
[12:52] <spear> what i don't know is if the official ubuntu kernel with usplash working is patched in a special way or whatelse
[12:52] <shinu> can i mount an ext3 partition with option uid=1000? or does it not matter?
[12:52] <aftertaf> spear:  patched? or an option in the .config?   maybe
[12:52] <kbrooks> brb
[12:52] <stimpie> Is it possible to use fb on the console?
[12:53] <sn9> phiqtion: did that help?
[12:53] <aftertaf> spear:  do you need to have a custom kernel?
[12:53] <spear> it's lighter
[12:53] <spear> i don't really need a light kernel, but i guess i like to tune the mechanics of linux :)
[12:53] <aftertaf> spear:  hmm, but loads of stuff is in modules, and so not inserted unless needed... iirc
[12:53] <odd-> Hey, another n00bish question, how do I decompress files that're in .deb extensions?
[12:54] <aftertaf> spear:  hehe, that i understand :)
[12:54] <aftertaf> odd-:  you dont, you dpkg them
[12:54] <spear> dpkg -i nameofpackage
[12:54] <aftertaf> odd-:  .deb files are debian/ubuntu packages, you get them with sudo apt-get install  and tey are installed automagically
[12:55] <spear> i'll download an official kernel and check it's conf file
[12:55] <ECMN> hello guys im back again
[12:55] <brammator> where i can read more about differences between ubuntu and edubuntu?
[12:55] <spear> and leave a post on the forum to clarify
[12:55] <spear> hi ECMN
[12:55] <aftertaf> spear:  i did that to begin wth, but i'm more than happy using the latest kernels, and since they update wth apt, you can be lazy as you wanna be :)
[12:55] <odd-> Oh, right..
[12:55] <kbrooks> uh
[12:55] <onkarshinde> Has anyone tried installing Ubuntu in Bochs simulator?
[12:55] <kbrooks> questions
[12:55] <aftertaf> spear:  check in your /boot partition, you might have one (unless no kernel pkg since breezy....)
[12:55] <odd-> Never really used a debian distro before .. new experience.
[12:55] <odd-> Always good to ask questions.
[12:55] <kbrooks> i installed usplash
[12:55] <ECMN> i just reinstalled ubuntu and i only installed the base system
[12:56] <sn9> onkarshinde: having trouble?
[12:56] <spear> you'd better use Qemu onkarshinde
[12:56] <aftertaf> odd-:  welcome to ubuntu :)
[12:56] <kbrooks> but it doesnt load?
[12:56] <kbrooks> on bootup
[12:56] <ECMN> now, how can i install the x window? and gnome?
[12:56] <onkarshinde> sn9: I get kernel panic at start itself. So not able to install Ubuntu inside bochs.
[12:56] <odd-> Thanks man.
[12:56] <spear> brb, my eyes suffer ... things go too fast here :)
[12:56] <aftertaf> ;)
[12:56] <onkarshinde> spear: I am on windows and qemu runs damn slow
[12:56] <odd-> (I think you'll like what I've done with the desktop :p)
[12:56] <kbrooks> odd-: server install? ;)
[12:56] <kbrooks> ah
[12:56] <kbrooks> :)
[12:56] <spear> use kqemu !
[12:56] <sn9> ECMN: sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core
[12:57] <Skid> hmmm, whats up with the gui vlc player in breezy
[12:57] <Skid> menu's have dissapeared, and button text too
[12:57] <onkarshinde> spear: I said I am on windows
[12:57] <spear> oh
[12:57] <kbrooks> onkarshinde:
[12:57] <kbrooks> "kqemu"
[12:57] <aftertaf> ECMN:  or for the whole lot, ie gnome..... sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-desktop
[12:57] <kbrooks> not "qemu"
[12:57] <sn9> onkarshinde: are you sure bochs is configured correctly?
[12:58] <spear> so why do you ask here onkarshinde ??? we're all using linux apps
[12:58] <ECMN> oic, tnx to you oth sn9 and aftertaf
[12:58] <aftertaf> wb CaiN_SA :)
[12:58] <aftertaf> ;) ECMN
[12:58] <ECMN> i decided to installed only the base so that i can save some space
[12:58] <onkarshinde> sn9: Yes. I think so. Any specific thing related to irq?
[12:58] <ECMN> cause im having my system dual boot
[12:58] <ECMN> :)
[12:59] <onkarshinde> spear: Because I want to try out Breezy till I get my RAM upgraded from 128 to 510.
[12:59] <sn9> onkarshinde: what exactly is the panic msg?
[12:59] <onkarshinde> sn9: Just two minutes and I will let you know.
[12:59] <ECMN> any amp user here, that using ubuntu?
[01:00] <Profeta> ubuntu is a great distro, dont know how they build it so fast
[01:00] <Profeta> well its debian based :)
[01:00] <dazvid> The dev's are not of this planet.. keep it on the low down..
[01:00] <ECMN> ubuntu is my first linux dist.
[01:00] <Profeta> dazvid, hehehe :)
[01:00] <odd-> Dapper Drake is somewhat .. irksome, the name I mean.
[01:01] <ECMN> i installed it 3 weeks ago that that 3 weeks was my first exposure in linux, im having lot of fun with it
[01:01] <sn9> odd-: no worse than hoary hedgehog
[01:01] <aftertaf> ECMN:  amp?
[01:01] <ECMN> that only probs i have is that its quite slow in my syste,
[01:01] <dazvid> Breezy is such a cool name
[01:01] <dazvid> very relaxed
[01:01] <ECMN> apache, mysql, php aftertaf
[01:01] <odd-> Next it'll be scurry squirrel
[01:01] <aftertaf> ECMN:  what is your processor type,  k7 or intel?
[01:02] <Profeta> I installed last debian here and got problems ( I am on a note), tryed ubuntu, running perfect
[01:02] <onkarshinde> sn9: Here is the error:   <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
[01:02] <sn9> onkarshinde: change the ips line in bochs config
[01:02] <ECMN> im shy to share my system spec. :) but it's intel base, it out outdated system.
[01:02] <odd-> I don't wnt to try out breezyt.
[01:02] <odd-> Hoary's just fine
[01:02] <odd-> breezy*
[01:03] <aftertaf> ECMN:  check see if you have the linux-686 package. If you don't then sudo apt-get install  linux-686
[01:03] <ECMN> a system only good for programming, so to speak :)
[01:03] <kbrooks> ECMN: i'm shy. j/k ;)
[01:03] <onkarshinde> sn9: can we take this offline?
[01:03] <kbrooks> pentinum 3
[01:03] <ECMN> hehe kbrooks
[01:03] <sn9> onkarshinde: what, you mean on the phone?
[01:03] <onkarshinde> sn9: I mean off the channel.
[01:04] <aftertaf> ECMN:  no shyness to have. i'm on a p3 500
[01:04] <ECMN> i only have a 200mhz system with 64mb and 2.1 hdd, that how outdated my system are
[01:04] <kbrooks> ECMN: p3 is awfully old ;)
[01:05] <ECMN> the reason why i decided to have dual but cause, i can't compile the source properly in ubuntu
[01:05] <ECMN> my is pentium 200 hehehe
[01:05] <odd-> Totern movie player doesn't work aswell, and the link to mplayer is dead.
[01:05] <sn9> odd-: what link to mplayer?
[01:06] <odd-> The mplayerhq or whatever one.
[01:06] <spear> bochs is still maintained ?
[01:06] <odd-> One sec.
[01:06] <odd-> I prefer bochs to vmware.
[01:06] <ECMN> wait guys i just take a break and list all the help i got from you :)
[01:06] <odd-> Not sure though.
[01:06] <kbrooks> qemu > bochs
[01:06] <kbrooks> :)
[01:06] <sn9> spear: very much so
[01:07] <odd-> (Fsck my net is slow)
[01:07] <odd-> l.
[01:07] <odd-> www.mplayerhq.hu
[01:07] <spear> ok, have a good day ;)
[01:07] <spear> bye !
[01:07] <sn9> odd-: that site is down again? sheesh
[01:07] <ECMN> im back
[01:07] <ECMN> :)
[01:08] <ECMN> thx spear for the greeting :), luv yah
[01:08] <odd-> Think its up now.
[01:09] <odd-> I was wondering...
[01:09] <sn9> kbrooks: qemu and bochs serve different purposes
[01:09] <odd-> I have shitty net, if I give someone a shell account, they have like 10mbit down, could they download stuff at which I'll get them faster?
[01:09] <odd-> Or is that just a waste of time and bw
[01:10] <Marko> k.  I'm off to bed.  Goodnight
[01:10] <kbrooks> sn9: what does bochs serve
[01:11] <sn9> kbrooks: bochs lets you automate examining machine state during emulation
[01:11] <sigwada> hello guys,
[01:11] <kbrooks> sn9: english?
[01:11] <ECMN> aftertaf what linux-686 do to my system if i installed it?
[01:12] <kbrooks> i'm not sure i understand you, sn9
[01:12] <sn9> kbrooks: sorry, but there's not much plain english stuff that can be said about bochs
[01:12] <sigwada> its my 3 days working with my torrent files and until now i cant open it.
[01:12] <ECMN> aftertaf what linux-686 do to my system if i installe it?
[01:13] <odd-> I'm tired of slow net.. solutions, solutions.
[01:13] <YeTr2> Where would I set default applications to open files for?
[01:13] <sigwada> i domnt have any bittorrent client and i want to obtain one, but i dont know what to do coz im a newbie here in ubuntu.
[01:13] <aftertaf> ECMN:  install a custom kernel optimised for your Pentium 2/3 processor
[01:13] <kbrooks> sigwada: you already have one
[01:13] <stimpie> sigwada, azureus, bittornado or gnome-btdownload
[01:14] <ECMN> oic
[01:14] <ndlovu> can anyone tell me how to identify what my dns address(es) are?
[01:14] <kbrooks> apt-get install --reinstall gnome-btdownload
[01:14] <sn9> sigwada: the best bittorrent client is azureus, but it needs java. you can get java here: http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[01:14] <aftertaf> ECMN:  but you have a Pentium MMX 200, right?
[01:14] <kbrooks> ndlovu: check /etc/resolv.conf
[01:14] <ECMN> sorry to ask, i'm just new to linux, got curious about it :)
[01:14] <ktogias> ndlovu, look in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:15] <ndlovu> thanks
[01:15] <rohal> is trying ubuntu is equivalent to trying debian....or there is anything special in debian which is not there in ubuntu?
[01:15] <ECMN> i think it not mmx, it just 200, no mmx attach to it when it boo up the bios
[01:15] <aftertaf> ECMN:  dont be sorry, asking means interested, and learning ;)
[01:15] <amparo_pzzi> smartdraw is available for linux???
[01:15] <ECMN> tnx :)
[01:15] <aftertaf> ECMN:  but dont get that package, its not for your processor...
[01:15] <aftertaf> P2 and above only :/
[01:15] <kbrooks> rohal: its not equalivent. and reverse the anything special in ... question
[01:15] <ECMN> ok thnx for the help and knowledge
[01:16] <leagris> amparo_pzzi, what is smartdrow. what kind of software ?
[01:16] <odd-> I have a P4 if that counts ;P
[01:16] <sigwada> where can i get azureus?
[01:16] <sn9> ECMN: you need a 586 pkg
[01:16] <ECMN> in general, i love to use the os :)
[01:16] <kbrooks> rohal: yes there is a lot of special stuff in ubuntu not in debian
[01:16] <odd-> apt-get install azureus
[01:16] <ECMN> what's on the package sn9?
[01:17] <amparo_pzzi> create charts and diagrams
[01:17] <aftertaf> odd-:  it does count... a lot of times a second ;)
[01:17] <sn9> odd-: P4s use 686-smp kernels
[01:17] <rohal> kbrooks: i wanted to know is there anything special in debian which is not in ubuntu.....u took it other way?
[01:17] <kbrooks> rohal: i had to ;)
[01:17] <aftertaf> sn9:  really? all of them?
[01:17] <cafuego_> sn9: Only HT ones. Except HT is disabled in the SMP kernels, so it's pointless.
[01:17] <aftertaf> lol
[01:17] <aftertaf> ok thx cafuego . how to tell if ht is on the proc?
[01:18] <cafuego_> aftertaf: cat /proc/cpuinfo. See 'ht' in the flags listing.
[01:18] <odd-> (I know :)
[01:18] <aftertaf> ok thx cafuego  :)
[01:18] <sn9> ECMN: linux-image-586 would be your kernel
[01:18] <odd-> I have a P4 3.01Ghz, 80GIg hd, 752MB ram.
[01:18] <ECMN> oic
[01:18] <xuniluser> Help: After doing the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and after extracting the templates and preconfiguring packages, 'dpkg' issued an error: "parse error in file /var/lib/dpkg/available near line 6331 package totem" Please help
[01:19] <dave> is there anyway to make gtk apps in kde look normal/like they do in gnome ??
[01:19] <mgedmin> postfix breakage?  apt-get dist-upgrade -t breezy chanded /etc/postfix/master.cf, and postfix now doesn't start (bad hostname or network address: ::1:smtp)
[01:19] <sn9> sigwada: you must install java before you get azureus
[01:19] <sigwada> ok
[01:19] <ECMN> ill try it when i get home
[01:19] <leagris> amparo_pzzi, sketch (technickal drawing), sodipodi (vector artwork), oodra (open office draw), oocalc (spreadsheet and charts)...
[01:19] <cafuego_> dave: make sure gnome-settings-daemon starts when you're in KDE.
[01:19] <xuniluser> filed name '0' must be followed by a colon
[01:19] <aftertaf> ht flag :)
[01:19] <odd-> I wish I had a 10mbit connection.
[01:19] <odd-> I'd be swimming.
[01:20] <Profeta> ./Real10.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:20] <Profeta> someone got that ?
[01:20] <kbrooks> odd-: lol
[01:20] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Ok, then going to the SMP kernel means HT won't work either ;-)
[01:20] <Dreamglider> is there a fix for the mounting of floppy drive in ubuntu ?
[01:20] <odd-> Profeta, you don't have the libs.
[01:20] <ompaul> Profeta, that is not the one that works afic
[01:20] <odd-> (dur)
[01:20] <starscalling> 4:20!!
[01:20] <ompaul> Profeta, afik even
[01:21] <cafuego_> 'helix-player' is packaged.
[01:21] <ECMN> sng how to set-up the linux-image-586? sudo apt-get install linux-image-586? is tthis right?
[01:21] <cole> olaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
[01:21] <sn9> ECMN: yes, if it were there
[01:21] <kbrooks> !info helix-player
[01:21] <ubotu> helix-player: (The Helix Community's open source media player), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 4068 kB, Installed size: 10284 kB
[01:21] <aftertaf> ECMN:  yes, nice one.... but 586 kernel dont exist :/
[01:22] <sn9> starscalling: 4:22
[01:22] <ompaul> Profeta, you want  RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[01:22] <Profeta> ok
[01:22] <ompaul> Profeta,  ec9f584f12c05f567d0a2cccb82acd98 is the md5sum of that package
[01:23] <aftertaf> ompaul:  i think you got a c in the wrong place there ;)
[01:23] <onkarshinde> !vlc
[01:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[01:23] <odd-> Someone ssh to my box and download packages for me!! :(
[01:23] <Profeta> ompaul, its that package
[01:23] <sn9> odd-: i could, but i don't know what you want to install
[01:23] <Profeta> how I generate the md5 ?
[01:24] <ECMN> what's on the cd 686? i dont have update on my ubuntu cause im not connected to the net. all my files are from the cd
[01:24] <Profeta> humm
[01:24] <Profeta> dont match
[01:24] <sn9> ECMN: 386 is default, and if there is no 586, it's the one you can stay with
[01:24] <odd-> Just anything that comes to mind, music players, metacity themes, ebooks, even things that you have and you want to send me :P anything
[01:24] <ompaul> Profeta, the one I got was from the real site and it works
[01:24] <odd-> Anythnig at all.
[01:24] <kbrooks> odd-: well ok
[01:24] <ompaul> Profeta, out of the box with hoary and breezy
[01:25] <apokryphos> odd-: giving someone ssh acccess with sudo powers is a big recipe for disaster
[01:25] <ECMN> oic
[01:25] <odd-> Aye.
[01:25] <ECMN> i guess i have to stick with it
[01:25] <scifi_uk> hi, just about to install ubuntu on sparc, any tips ?
[01:25] <odd-> Shitty, I'm me though.
[01:25] <ECMN> no other choice, poor me :(
[01:25] <xuniluser> Help: After doing the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and after extracting the templates and preconfiguring packages, 'dpkg' issued an error: "parse error in file /var/lib/dpkg/available near line 6331 package totem" Please help
[01:25] <Profeta> ompaul,  ok :)
[01:26] <apokryphos> odd-: if you like having to possibly reinstall, and have the possibility of losing all your files, then go right ahead.
[01:26] <odd-> ...
[01:26] <sn9> xuniluser: that's not good. try apt-get update again
[01:26] <odd-> True
[01:26] <kbrooks> :)
[01:27] <Dreamglider> is there a fix for the mounting of floppy drive in nautilus ?
[01:27] <bigfoot1> can anyone tell me of some good quality IAX/ASterisk softphones for ubuntu/gnome, please, please, please?
[01:27] <xuniluser> sn9: does that have something to do with my cdrom? i'm trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy
[01:27] <aftertaf> !tell Dreamglider about kde
[01:28] <sn9> xuniluser: no, it's file corruption. apt-get update might fix it
[01:28] <brownie17> can someone tell me something about "CUPS"? does it mean i don't need drivers for my printer?
[01:29] <sn9> brownie17: depends on the printer. most are supported out-of-the-box
[01:29] <bigfoot1> anybody here use X-Lite?
[01:29] <brownie17> sn9, well there aren't drivers for my printer, so if i install cups then my printer will just work?
[01:29] <bigfoot1> i hear that X-lite is a good IAX/Asterisk softphone. Can anyone confirm?
[01:29] <_angel> hi..
[01:30] <sn9> brownie17: cups is already installed by default
[01:30] <_angel> angel@mail:~$ sudo -i
[01:30] <_angel> Password:
[01:30] <_angel> Sorry, try again.
[01:30] <_angel> Password:
[01:30] <_angel> how can I open root ac.
[01:30] <_angel> it asks root pass
[01:31] <_angel> bur I do not set a pass
[01:31] <vinboy> i feel there are some nice improvement in Breezy :D
[01:31] <kbrooks> lol
[01:31] <sn9> _angel: use your user password
[01:31] <kbrooks> !root
[01:31] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:31] <brownie17> sn9, so it does not replace drivers, but allows printing to be done at all?
[01:31] <onkarshinde> _angel: Your your password
[01:31] <intelikey> _angel: sudo bash
[01:31] <onkarshinde> vinboy: Like what?
[01:31] <sn9> brownie17: correct
[01:31] <odd-> Alright, once gcc is done, I just decompress it and install?
[01:31] <vinboy> onkarshinde, i can play compressed media over network nicely now..
[01:32] <vinboy> i had problem playing those video file
[01:32] <vinboy> also it added Add Application thing
[01:32] <vinboy> nice nice nice
[01:32] <odd-> I am. :( this happens when I have really shitty net.
[01:32] <brownie17> she's got the looks that kill!
[01:33] <odd-> I'll come back when my net's good and be even.
[01:33] <_angel> ok I passwd the root
[01:33] <_angel> but kdesu daoesnt get my pass
[01:34] <Riddell> _angel: kdesu uses the user password
[01:34] <intelikey> mmmm kdesu is a gui sudo i believe   it uses your passwd not root's
[01:34] <kbrooks> _angel: Read this.
[01:34] <kbrooks> !root
[01:34] <ubotu> methinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:34] <intelikey> errr no scratch that....
[01:34] <dead> yea.. it is.. everything runs under sudo
[01:35] <intelikey> root is not disabled.......    duh
[01:35] <kbrooks> intelikey: um
[01:35] <kbrooks> "everything runs under sudo"
[01:35] <Antioch> whats the name of the tool (built into x, I believe) that lets you change the refresh and sync rates... erm... its a small gui you can run from the terminal......
[01:35] <kbrooks> read: everything
[01:36] <kbrooks> Antioch: xrandr i guess?
[01:36] <intelikey> would some one rewrite that please.   root is not disabled.    there is no passwd set for the root account by default.   that does not disable root.
[01:36] <dead> i stand corrected..
[01:37] <_angel> yes I ve read it but I wantto open my root account like I used to in suse. dont tell me it is stupid :D
[01:37] <Antioch> mm no thats not it
[01:37] <ompaul> intelikey, go for it, access for all :-)
[01:37] <_angel> odd-:  yes I am. but not regged
[01:38] <intelikey> _angel: to set a root passwd "sudo passwd "
[01:38] <kbrooks> _anjel.
[01:38] <odd-> Alrighty ..
[01:38] <kbrooks> STOP WORRYING ABOUT ROOT ACCESS
[01:38] <_angel> intelikey: I did set a pass
[01:38] <intelikey> then su -
[01:38] <Antioch> I dont know the right refresh rates and such for my xorg.conf and the displa is shifted off of the screen slightly
[01:39] <Belutz> why do you want to enable root account?
[01:39] <sn9> Antioch: look in your monitor's manual
[01:39] <dead> do you have your monitor docs?
[01:39] <sigwada> why is it when i install sun-j2re1.4 ive encountered errors, i think it is not install, what will i do?
[01:39] <Seveas> _angel, it's stupid..
[01:39] <Seveas> :)
[01:39] <_angel> :D
[01:39] <intelikey> Belutz: because we hate sudo  .
[01:39] <Seveas> sigwada, paste the errors on the pastebin
[01:39] <sn9> sigwada: what errors?
[01:39] <Belutz> intelikey, why do you hate it?
[01:40] <sigwada> where will i paste the errors?
[01:40] <intelikey> why do you like it ?
[01:40] <sigwada> here?
[01:40] <Seveas> sudo is the best invention since sliced bread ;)
[01:40] <dead> you can probably just change your monitor... as in move it over.. and you should be able to find your refresh rate inn your monitor's menus
[01:40] <Belutz> intelikey, you could go to root by using sudo su
[01:40] <Seveas> sigwada, NO
[01:40] <sn9> sigwada: no
[01:40] <sigwada> where?
[01:40] <Seveas> on the pastebin -> $paste
[01:40] <Seveas> on the pastebin -> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:40] <cafuego_> Seveas: How about sliced cheese?
[01:40] <_angel> ok .I wantto set up apt-get reps for some special packs. like xvid .. (sorry I am very very new to ubuntu)
[01:40] <Antioch> no I dont have the docs... it was just a mintory lying around the lab
[01:40] <odd-> wget is a handy tool.
[01:40] <Antioch> very frustrated.. i cant tell if its because I have a sis integrated graphics card, or the LCD's fault
[01:40] <sn9> Antioch: what make/model?
[01:41] <odd-> Who's used zinc?
[01:41] <sn9> Antioch: oh, it's a flat panel?
[01:41] <Antioch> sharp and no model number on it... I'll check more tomorrow... is there a website that has useful information?
[01:41] <cafuego_> against sunburn?
[01:41] <dead> ok.. see about the buttons on the monitor.. you should be able to help yourself through the monitors menus
[01:41] <Antioch> yea, its LCD
[01:41] <egoleo> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[01:41] <egoleo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:41] <intelikey> Belutz: most of us don't want a very long user passwd (thus less secure)  but we also don't want a three letter access to root.   thus sudo is a security breach.
[01:41] <egoleo> can someone help to get the keys
[01:41] <sn9> Antioch: for flat panels, usually 60Hz works
[01:41] <Antioch> dead are you talking about shifting the image?
[01:41] <cafuego_> egoleo: etch is debian. ubuntu is not. break shit at your own peril.
[01:42] <Seveas> egoleo, gpg --recv-keys  07DC563D1F41B907 && gpg --export --armor  07DC563D1F41B907 | apt-key add -
[01:42] <onkarshinde> egoleo: You need to export the gpg key. Don't know how. Easy to do from Synaptic
[01:42] <bigfoot1> i just downloaded x-lite. It came in tar.gz, but then I untarred it. Inside were only 2 files: readme and the executable itself. Where do you recommend i move this executable? I don't want to clutter my home directory? Where is the usual place Linux pros put stuff like this?
[01:42] <sigwada> ive already paste it in pastebin. whats next?
[01:42] <dead> yes i am Antioch
[01:42] <pchan> Any "powered by ubuntu" images available? :)
[01:42] <Seveas> sigwada, giving us the url to the post ;)
[01:42] <egoleo> ok
[01:42] <Seveas> pchan, yes, on the wiki
[01:42] <sn9> bigfoot1: /usr/local/bin
[01:43] <Antioch> dead, already tried that, thats not the fix.. its got to do with wrong frequency... thanks though
[01:43] <Belutz> intelikey, i see, well you have your reason
[01:43] <Antioch> sn9 is the shifting due to a problem with the frequency or perhaps I dont have the proper drivers installed?
[01:43] <sn9> Antioch: could be either
[01:43] <pchan> Seveas: Where? The search found none.
[01:43] <sigwada> ok tnx
[01:43] <onkarshinde> Any idea when HP custom version of breezy will be out?
[01:44] <dead> i would check the frequency first
[01:44] <Seveas> pchan, can't remember where ;)
[01:44] <bigfoot1> sn9, that's where linux geeks/pros put stuff like this? or just you?
[01:44] <dead> it really doesnt sound like a driver problem
[01:44] <reiki> does Gimp do batch resizing by default?
[01:44] <pchan> Seveas: I knew it! It was a trick! :P
[01:44] <sn9> bigfoot1: it's the standard for stuff you compile yourself
[01:45] <intelikey> Belutz: when i installed ub i entered blank info for user account and it dropped back to root passwd as it should.   but there should be a referance to that option in the default install.  not everyone will think of that without a pointer.
[01:45] <dao> is it sensible to make an additional (sudo)user with admin-rights and work with a regular user without any of those admin-rights?
[01:45] <bigfoot1> sn9, i didn't compile this executable though. The website/company that made it just put this executable in a tar.gz. Or, maybe I'm not understanding you when you say "compile". Did I just compile this ?
[01:45] <shukhrat> hello people it me again
[01:45] <sigwada> i hope somone can help me regarding with my problem, tnx alot guys.
[01:46] <bigfoot1> shukhrat: hello person.
[01:46] <bigfoot1> sn9: do i have to remember that i put it there?
[01:46] <shukhrat> Russian any Russian speakers here
[01:46] <odd-> Oh no!
[01:46] <shukhrat> ?
[01:46] <odd-> it's you?!
[01:46] <sn9> bigfoot1: no, but for your purposes it will work
[01:46] <intelikey> dao only if you want the added sudoer to only be able to run specific commands.
[01:46] <Seveas> sigwada, you installed a breezy package on a hoary system
[01:46] <Seveas> that will NEVER work..
[01:47] <shukhrat> Hello
[01:47] <brownie17> does anyone know a way to get my printer to work when it doesn't have linux drivers?
[01:47] <odd-> helloo
[01:47] <bigfoot1> sn9:  in that folder there's only 2 files: rar, unrar! wow. Oh, I can't paste into that folder. How can i get sudo/root access to that folder in nautilus?
[01:47] <GreenFireD> witch rezolusion are you using?
[01:47] <kbrooks> bigfoot1:
[01:47] <kbrooks> !info unrar-free
[01:47] <sn9> bigfoot1: sudo nautilus
[01:47] <ubotu> unrar-free: (Unarchiver for .rar files), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:0.0.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 84 kB
[01:47] <kbrooks> !info rar
[01:47] <sigwada> what will i do to install breezy package?
[01:47] <brownie17> bigfoot1, you would have to log in as root
[01:47] <ubotu> rar: (Archiver for .rar files), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 488 kB
[01:47] <ompaul> shukhrat, we don't know, ask your question as best you can and we will try to help
[01:47] <bigfoot1> kbrooks: why should i do info on that?
[01:48] <kbrooks> bigfoot1: use those packages
[01:48] <bigfoot1> kbrooks: I'm just surprised that i only have two things in my usr/local/bin.
[01:48] <ompaul> shukhrat, is that breezy the whole operating system or a single package on breezy?
[01:48] <kbrooks> bigfoot1: unrar-nonfree not unrar-free
[01:48] <GreenFireD> witch rezolusion are you using? I can't find comfortalble rezolusion...
[01:48] <bigfoot1> sn9. thanks!
[01:48] <dave> what do you need to install to make skype look like it does on the screenshots?
[01:48] <Seveas> skype
[01:48] <egoleo> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[01:48] <egoleo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:48] <Seveas> egoleo, retry
[01:49] <Seveas> that happens sometimes during archive updates
[01:49] <dave> it looks really bad compared to the screenshots
[01:49] <dao> intelikey, I was just wondering if there might be any security flaws in using an account which has sudo-admin-rights for regular work
[01:49] <kbrooks> bigfoot1: Do not install nonubuntu things
[01:49] <ompaul> dave, if it is up and running then maybe adding some fonts might help
[01:49] <shukhrat> my screen resolution very low how can i increase ?
[01:50] <pitti> dao: there are not more or less problems than using su from a normal account
[01:50] <pitti> dao: in principle, both sudo and su allow root privilege escalation by other programs
[01:50] <leonhunt> xorg uses a lot of cpu power, like descriped in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-18197.html
[01:50] <leonhunt> Unfortunately, despite its length, the thread doesn't include a workable solution.
[01:50] <leonhunt> Does anyone here have any info on this matter?
[01:50] <intelikey> yes dao if it is full root access there is.  the more access points there are to root (the more passwords that will gain root access) the easier the hack
[01:51] <shukhrat> PEOPLE !!! my screen resolution very low how can i increase ?
[01:51] <runge> try <ctrl><alt>+
[01:51] <bigfoot1> sn9: i put the the executable in usr/local/bin. if i want to run it, do i have to do something with paths?
[01:51] <sn9> bigfoot1: no
[01:52] <ompaul> shukhrat, system preferences screen resolution
[01:52] <kbrooks> bigfoot1: not in thoery
[01:52] <kbrooks> sh: echo $PATH: command not found
[01:52] <bigfoot1> so i can go to terminal and just type "programname" from any folder?
[01:53] <kbrooks> /home/kbrooks/.local/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[01:53] <dao> oke, makes things clear, thanks pitti and intelikey
[01:53] <sn9> bigfoot1: yes
[01:53] <kbrooks> That is $PATH on my system
[01:53] <pitti> dao: still, it's reasonably safe to use su and sudo on a desktop box
[01:53] <bigfoot1> sn9, and this is because i put it in usr/local bin?
[01:53] <sn9> bigfoot1: yes
[01:53] <intelikey> pitti if i can crack your user passwd and it has full sudo rights then i have cracked your full system.   on the other hand if i crack your user and then have to crack root to use su then it is more secure.
[01:54] <kbrooks> intelikey: um
[01:54] <pitti> intelikey: right
[01:54] <bigfoot1> sn9 thankns
[01:54] <kbrooks> dont compare root to sudo
[01:54] <intelikey> kbrooks: ?
[01:54] <pitti> intelikey: but any program running as the user can get root privs if the user uses su or sudo
[01:54] <bigfoot1> sn9, how can i add it to my menu? do i use "add applications" or  what?
[01:54] <odd-> They're not the same no.
[01:54] <onkarshinde> Which kernel package should I download for Athlon XP, 396 or 686?
[01:54] <pitti> intelikey: so the practical difference is not bit
[01:54] <odd-> They're two different things.
[01:54] <bigfoot1> how do i add a shortcut to my menu?
[01:55] <sn9> intelikey: but to crack user passwd you also have to crack username, so sudo is more secure
[01:55] <pitti> intelikey: and it doesn not make much of a difference to crack the user or the root password
[01:55] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: if using breezy, run smeg
[01:55] <pitti> sn9: don't rely on that :-)
[01:55] <kbrooks> pitti: correct
[01:55] <odd-> Yawn..
[01:55] <dbug> the access nivel of sudo is the same of root ?
[01:55] <odd-> Been a busy day.
[01:55] <onkarshinde> Which kernel package should I download for Athlon XP, 396 or 686?
[01:55] <kbrooks> dbug: level?
[01:55] <pitti> onkarshinde: -k7
[01:55] <kemik> onfire_nux:  k7
[01:55] <sn9> onkarshinde: k7
[01:55] <kemik> onkarshinde:  *
[01:55] <kbrooks> dbug: sudo is setuid root so yes
[01:55] <dbug> if can make the same things like root
[01:56] <odd-> brb
[01:56] <dbug> but when i use sudo his ask the user pass, not the root pass
[01:57] <Seveas> dbug, that's how sudo works...
[01:57] <pitti> dbug: right, that was the sole purpose of using sudo
[01:57] <Seveas> you can make it ask the root password too...
[01:57] <dbug> how ? any howto to learn that ?
[01:57] <kbrooks> dbug: sudo grants you the access to execute a command or a shell BECAUSE it is setuid root
[01:58] <kbrooks> and so you can in thoery do anything
 intelikey: and it doesn not make much of a difference to crack the user or the root password <---- that is where i would have to differ.   i like a user passwd that is short and easy to remember and type.   however my root passwd is neither. thus there is quite a differance in the two.
[01:58] <pitti> kbrooks: in the default config, that is
[01:58] <kbrooks> it "logs you in" as root
[01:58] <kbrooks> pitti: ?
[01:58] <pitti> kbrooks: you can configure sudo to only allow certain particular things to a user
[01:58] <dao> intelikey, good point there
[01:58] <Fergy> could somebody tell me what the DVD version of ubuntu has extra?(its 2.8GB and livecd+install is only 1.3GB)
[01:58] <kbrooks> pitti: i know
[01:59] <pitti> Fergy: all packages in main
[01:59] <onkarshinde> pitti: sn9: IIRC, hoary installed 686 kernel package on my Athlon XP
[01:59] <geoffTheFish> anybody got flash working for firefox on breezy?
[01:59] <kbrooks> pitti: i was talking about the config
[01:59] <Fergy> pickett os it has more than the install cd?
[01:59] <sn9> onkarshinde: athlon should use k7
[01:59] <pitti> kbrooks: well, Ubuntu's default config that is (not upstream's of course)
[01:59] <onkarshinde> Fergy: You can check the list of packages on same page. I suppose it contains all the official main and restricted packages
[01:59] <disasm> as root doing cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp i get no such device /dev/dsp I did the same thing on my amd64 laptop, and it worked fine, the one having problems is x86 and both are running breezy
[01:59] <onkarshinde> sn9: Okay. Thanks.
[01:59] <kbrooks> arent setuid root programs inherently dangerous?
[02:00] <shukhrat> ompaul i tryed it's offere me only 640*480 it not good i think problem in my VGA device
[02:00] <pitti> kbrooks: no, not inherently
[02:00] <shukhrat> ompaul i tryed it's offere me only 640*480 it not good i think problem in my VGA device
[02:00] <pitti> kbrooks: sometimes a setuid wrapper can even help to improve security
[02:00] <pitti> kbrooks: but in general they should be avoided, yes
[02:00] <sn9> geoffTheFish: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:00] <Fergy> onkarshinde I tried that but it's a bit long... Is the the install also bigger or is it just so you don't have to download the stuff when you use synaptic?
[02:00] <GURT> my opengl screen savers stoped working :/
[02:00] <pitti> kbrooks: that's why we tried to "deroot" as much as possible in Ubunut
[02:01] <kbrooks> pitti: when could a wrapper improve security?
[02:01] <Fergy> would it for instance have the 686 kernel?
[02:01] <kbrooks> pitti: "deroot"?
[02:01] <zyga> Hello
[02:01] <pitti> kbrooks: take dhcp-client for example
[02:01] <intelikey> and all i was trying to say before all this debate is that some people for what ever reason (maybe only force of habbet) don't want to be forced to use sudo.  thus it would be nice if the installer mentioned that they "do actually have the option to set a root passwd durring the install process"
[02:01] <kbrooks> pitti: like mac os x does?
[02:01] <hamouhzi> hello evrybody
[02:01] <pitti> kbrooks: in upstream and Debian, dhcp3-client runs completely as root
[02:01] <kbrooks> pitti: prompt you for a password?
[02:01] <zyga> can anyone give me a piece of advice about preferred black-and-white, ink printer for ubuntu?
[02:01] <_angel> omg. apt-get is really nice :D
[02:01] <onkarshinde> Fergy: It is that you don't have to download when you you use synaptic. Default install will be same.
[02:01] <kbrooks> as in "permission"?
[02:02] <kbrooks> pitti: answer my questiion please
[02:02] <pitti> kbrooks: in Ubuntu, I made dhcp3-client run as unprivileged user "dhcp", and added a setuid-wrapper to allow dhcp to actually change network config
[02:02] <leonhunt> xorg uses 70% (1,2GHz P3) cpu power just dragging a window around.  Please, what to do?
[02:02] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde: about smeg: i selected an image file that I made. Is it okay to delete that image file now?
[02:02] <disasm> zyga: inks too expensive get a black and white laser off ebay for $80 the laserjet 4m pluses work great
[02:02] <pitti> kbrooks: "deroot" == don't run as root, but only with minimal privileges
[02:02] <kbrooks> pitti:
[02:02] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde: co clarify: I selected an image file as an icon.
[02:03] <pitti> kbrooks: mac os x just uses sudo, as Ubuntu does; that has nothing to do with privilege minimization of processes
[02:03] <zyga> disasm: I need about 50 with warranty so ebay is not an option
[02:03] <kbrooks> mac os x prompts you for the admin password when you try to execute programs (or use an area) which requires root privs
[02:03] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: AFAIK, you shouldn't delete it. If you don't want garbage in home directory put the image in /usr/share/pixmaps
[02:03] <sn9> bigfoot1: don't delete
[02:03] <nessuno> nessuno ha risolto il problema di xsane con hp3770
[02:03] <starlight> HELLO W TO ALL MY FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!!1
[02:03] <dmlinux> Is there any sort of powermanagement for your video card for laptops?
[02:03] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde: okay, i'll put it there.
[02:03] <spiekey> hello!
[02:03] <kbrooks> pitti: I see
[02:04] <shukhrat> ompaul
[02:04] <bigfoot1> sn9: okay. i thought that smeg saves a copy for itself.
[02:04] <dao> !it
[02:04] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[02:04] <ompaul> shukhrat, >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << do that in a terminal
[02:04] <spiekey> is there a beta or RC Version of ubuntu?
[02:04] <missy> spieky?
[02:04] <kbrooks> spiekey: none
[02:04] <kbrooks> spiekey: breezy is out
[02:04] <ompaul> shukhrat, please take your time - there is a more detailed answer on the wiki but finding it is hard
[02:04] <spiekey> kbrooks : yes, but i need ubuntu with xen now ;)
[02:04] <kbrooks> tomorrow the next version of ubuntu ... well, you'll see ;)
[02:04] <nessuno> #ubuntu-it
[02:04] <spiekey> so i thought maybe a dev tree will have it
[02:05] <sn9> ompaul: shukhrat has intel video
[02:05] <benkong2> hello all why does my amd64-k8 kernel not get the new ubuntu artwork after an upgrade?
[02:05] <kbrooks> spiekey: priorities!
[02:05] <missy> spieky>
[02:05] <spiekey> kbrooks: can i read up the roadmap somewhere?
[02:05] <sorush20> my god damn printer will not print
[02:05] <kbrooks> spiekey: on the wiki
[02:05] <missy> i want to be ur chatmate if its ok for you?
[02:05] <bigfoot1> any productivity tools geared for GTD people?
[02:05] <kbrooks> search roadmap
[02:05] <kbrooks> missy: ...
[02:05] <missy> pls reply spieky?
[02:05] <missy> yesSSSSSS kbrooks?
[02:06] <missy> somthing wrong?
[02:06] <avalost> am I mistaken or has there been no updates in the past two days or so?
[02:06] <kbrooks> missy: why do u want to chat with other people
[02:06] <kbrooks> avalost: not yet
[02:06] <missy> coz im finding a boy friend
[02:06] <avalost> kbrooks: k
[02:06] <twibbler> Seveas: sorry to bother you but could you tell me the download site for skype please ....
[02:06] <inc|freaky> hi all, i got a problem: http://www.freakyy.de/docs/apt-get.txt can anyone help me?
[02:06] <avalost> google skype
[02:06] <shukhrat> intel i82850 internal device
[02:06] <missy> would you
[02:07] <avalost> inc|freaky: sec
[02:07] <inc|freaky> k
[02:07] <Seveas> twibbler, skype.com :)
[02:07] <sorush20> guys I can't access the printer form localhost:631, I keep getting message that I have the wrong pass..
[02:07] <onkarshinde> which is the best file system to use with Linux?
[02:07] <kbrooks> avalost: tomorrow the next version of ubuntu will start development
[02:07] <missy> elow
[02:08] <twibbler> Seveas: thank you is it stable now ?.
[02:08] <kbrooks> onkarshinde: None, but i generally recommend ext3
[02:08] <odd-> My net sucks gay balls.
[02:08] <avalost> inc|freaky: sorry man, I don't speak german, danish or whatever that is :P
[02:08] <onkarshinde> kbrooks: What are advantages of XFS or ReiserFS over ext3?
[02:08] <ompaul> shukhrat, you may also find useful information at this point: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:08] <bigfoot1> how come there are some icons on my menu that are there but, when clicked, say that the program is gone? What's the fastest way to get rid of them?
[02:09] <kbrooks> onkarshinde: No  idea. Why do u think i know everything
[02:09] <mahangu> if i upgrade to breezy and something borks, can i revert to hoary?
[02:09] <inc|freaky> avalente: wait ill translate it for you, its just: the following packages have unmet dependencies ... its the error message which is displayed often ;D
[02:09] <avalost> reiserfs is fast but sort of dangerous, ext3 is best for all around
[02:09] <avalost> reiser tends to break easily too
[02:09] <mahangu> ive heard some quirks with thinkpads and breezy
[02:09] <inc|freaky> avalente: my problem is, i need to know how i can resolve this or i wont be able to upgrade :(
[02:09] <avalost> inc|freaky: try: apt-get build-dep packagename
[02:09] <onkarshinde> kbrooks: Because you said that you recommend ext3. So I thought you have tried others.
[02:09] <pzico> default screensavers don't work on my laptop :(
[02:10] <kbrooks> onkarshinde: other than ext2 ...
[02:10] <kbrooks> no i havent tried others
[02:10] <inc|freaky> avalente: that would remove the package "kde" :((
[02:10] <pzico> is there also a newbie channel?
[02:10] <inc|freaky> avalost i mean  ^^
[02:10] <onkarshinde> pzico: No there isn't
[02:11] <avalost> inc|freaky: I see, perhaps you can do that then reinstall kde?
[02:11] <onkarshinde> pzico: Ask your question here only.
[02:11] <inc|freaky> hmm
[02:11] <inc|freaky> ill try
[02:11] <odd-> Who's got wine?
[02:11] <odd-> Heh, who's got I.E on ubuntu :p
[02:11] <avalost> I.E. makes me want to vomit uncontrollably.
[02:11] <ompaul> odd-, why would I taint my machine with that
[02:11] <dao> odd-, who wants to? :)
[02:12] <odd-> hah
[02:12] <ompaul> !tell shukhrat about res
[02:12] <pzico> My problem is that the screensaver never activates, unless I start it manually. (Blank after 1 minutes is set)
[02:12] <onkarshinde> odd-: You are wrong question at wromng time in wrong place
[02:12] <ompaul> shukhrat, there is more info on the subject of resolutions
[02:12] <dmlinux> odd- why the hell would you want IE on ubuntu
[02:12] <MaTaKs> where can i download xmms skins?
[02:12] <shukhrat> ompaul it doesn't work again
[02:12] <odd-> .. I'm being sarcastic.
[02:12] <mahangu> IE in ubuntu?
[02:12] <avalost> MaTaKs: google xmms skins
[02:12] <MaTaKs> the xmms-kjofol
[02:12] <odd-> Damn, where's your sense of geeky humor.
[02:13] <ompaul> !tell shukhrat about res
[02:13] <onkarshinde> pzico: blank after 1 minute, that's why screensaver never activated IMHO
[02:13] <dmlinux> odd- it died with my soul
[02:13] <avalost> thee are several places
[02:13] <kbrooks> odd-: that was SO FUNNY
[02:13] <odd-> dmlinux, great.
[02:13] <shukhrat> to whom ?
[02:13] <odd-> kbrooks, wasn't it.
[02:13] <kbrooks> seriously
[02:13] <ompaul> shukhrat, you have a message from ubotu read it, it is as much as one can suggest
[02:13] <dmlinux> Is there any sort of powermanagement for your video card for laptops?
[02:13] <_angel> hhm. I think universe and multi universe reps. are to install some extra packs .. right ?
[02:13] <dmlinux> in ubuntu that is
[02:13] <shukhrat> a aa  yes
[02:13] <onkarshinde> MaTaKs: There should be an xmms-skins package in repo, but not sure how good are the skins. You can use winamp classic skins
[02:13] <shukhrat> got it
[02:14] <kbrooks> _anjel: "the universe of software packages"
[02:14] <MaTaKs> onkarshinde: ok thnx dude ill go check the skins
[02:14] <shukhrat> i'am new in Linux please don't smile
[02:14] <pzico> onkarshinde: it says that "blank after" is for setting time when screensaver activates.. not exactly to get blank
[02:14] <avalost> I would suggest using bmpX over xmms anyway or bmp
[02:14] <ompaul> shukhrat, I smile a lot why should I be sad?
[02:15] <twibbler> ok Skype problems. Downloaded debian install from skype saying cannot install due to dependency problems with . libqt3c102-mt
[02:15] <onkarshinde> Hey guys, check this status message from one of my friend. "I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code"
[02:15] <odd-> alrighty, later guys.
[02:15] <odd-> Nice metting ya. Hope to see ya soon, in a better state of mnd.
[02:15] <odd-> mind*
[02:15] <odd-> :) peace.
[02:15] <onkarshinde> twibbler: So search that package in Synaptic and install it.
[02:16] <egoleo> breezy marrilat keys
[02:16] <twibbler> onkarshinde: done that same problem ...
[02:16] <onkarshinde> pzico: No idea.
[02:16] <dmlinux> egoleo what are you talking about?
[02:16] <egoleo> talking abt this problem
[02:16] <egoleo> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:16] <egoleo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[02:16] <MaTaKs> onkarshinde: ok dude im down downloading the skins from repo now where can i find it?
[02:16] <onkarshinde> twibbler: I suppose the latest version from skype 1.2.0.17 something uses some latest qt library. See if you can find 1.2.0.11
[02:17] <MaX> yahoo... i just my Belkin54g network card going.
[02:17] <twibbler> onkarshinde: ok will do ....
[02:17] <onkarshinde> MaTaKs: They must be somewhere in /usr/share/xmms/skins or something like that.
[02:17] <ompaul> !skype
[02:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free, or breezy debs: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:17] <MaTaKs> k
[02:17] <Seveas> ompaul, meh
[02:18] <Seveas> don't remind me that I have to fix my repo all the time :)
[02:18] <ompaul> Seveas, okay
[02:18] <onkarshinde> twibbler: Or download statically linked package instead of dynamically linked.
[02:19] <aftertaf> lol
[02:20] <egoleo> no help
[02:20] <egoleo> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:20] <egoleo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[02:20] <pzico> what's the best irc client for linux? I liked mIRC with it's scripting on windoze
[02:20] <onkarshinde> pzico: xchat
[02:20] <cafuego_> pzico: Then you won't like the best Linux client. try xchat instead.
[02:20] <egoleo> xchat
[02:21] <pzico> I'm using xchat but this isn't to my taste, maybe I just need to get used to
[02:21] <sn9> mIRC sucks
[02:21] <_angel> xchat
[02:21] <onkarshinde> cafuego_: Do you mean that bext is GAIM? ;-)
[02:21] <GreenFireD> people! i have a big problem!!!
[02:21] <cafuego_> pzico: You could use gaim
[02:21] <cafuego_> onkarshinde: No, I don't.
[02:21] <pzico> isn't gaim slow and without scripts?
[02:22] <sH4> big. . .
[02:22] <cafuego_> pzico: The best is irssi, but that isn't a GUI app.
[02:22] <GreenFireD> I installed HebUbuntu(some package) and now some fonts is very small! look at the browser or at the terminal: http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adas9yf.png
[02:22] <onkarshinde> egoleo: I said you need to export GPG key for the repos. Easy to do from Synaptic.
[02:22] <avalost> there are heaps of IRC clients, BitchX, epic, irssi in text based, xchat, kvirc and others in gui
[02:22] <pzico> does xchat have a good script support?
[02:22] <avalost> pzico: of course
[02:22] <_angel> how to add a service to startup
[02:22] <_angel> ?
[02:23] <GreenFireD> and I can't open Synaptic, it's writing me some errors
[02:23] <cafuego_> pzico: Undoubtedly far better then mirc.
[02:23] <Dunston> Any one know how to install mysql? and set user and password?
[02:23] <pzico> ok, then I'll keep on using this
[02:23] <GreenFireD> E: Opening /etc/apt/sources.list - ifstream::ifstream (2 No such file or directory)
[02:23] <GreenFireD> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[02:23] <GreenFireD> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[02:23] <sorush20> I've restarted cupsys and hotplug but still not print.. kpdf sends to the printer but no results
[02:23] <_angel> isthere a Gui . that lists all services and I can choose
[02:23] <cafuego_> Dunston: sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client; mysql -u root. Enjoy.
[02:23] <_angel> which starts in which level _?
[02:23] <cafuego_> Dunston: mysql root password is blank by default.
[02:23] <Dunston> cafuego: thanks
[02:23] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: paste your sources/list file in pastebin.
[02:24] <onkarshinde> _angel: There must be something in System-Administration
[02:24] <GreenFireD> explain please
[02:24] <cafuego_> Dunston: There is also 'mysql-afmin' for GUI administration.
[02:24] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: Read my reply above.
[02:24] <sorush20> the printer test page gets printed no problems but I can't print any other documents..
[02:24] <GreenFireD> what to paste?
[02:25] <Orunitia> How do I install new fonts? Not from the repositories
[02:25] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: /etc/apt/sources/list
[02:25] <Orunitia> I have a few ttf files I want
[02:25] <procrastinator> is there absolutely no way to resize an ext3 partition without formatting?
[02:25] <_angel> how to add a service to startup
[02:26] <onkarshinde> Orunitia: Typing fonts:/// in nautilus should work
[02:26] <_angel> isthere a Gui . that lists all services and I can choose which starts in which level _?
[02:26] <Orunitia> onkarshinde: It won't let me copy fonts there though, not even as root.
[02:26] <GreenFireD> in /apt I have sources.list.backup and sources.list.save
[02:26] <onkarshinde> Orunitia: Then I don't know.
[02:27] <_angel> and I also congigure my machine and domain name ?
[02:27] <Orunitia> hmm
[02:27] <GreenFireD> in /apt I have sources.list.backup and sources.list.save witch od them ?
[02:27] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: Paste both of them at paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:27] <Orunitia> ah nevermind, they actually are in the repositories. Makes that easy
[02:28] <D4rk> hi, my computer can't boot from cd although it detects the cd drive in the win 98 os and can read from it. is there any way installing ubuntu?
[02:28] <sn9> D4rk: use smartbootmanager
[02:28] <D4rk> what is it?
[02:29] <intelikey> or loadlin
[02:29] <sn9> D4rk: it's a floppy that lets many such computers boot from cd
[02:29] <GreenFireD> the buttons there is so small(like in the browser), where the "send" or something button?
[02:29] <D4rk> ok, i ll try
[02:29] <D4rk> tnx
[02:29] <egoleo> ok i will
[02:30] <quiet> Is there a fix for a boot-splash not working on any console res. higher than 800x600?
[02:30] <egoleo> thnx
[02:30] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: First button is search, second is Send.
[02:30] <GreenFireD> ok, what now?
[02:31] <intelikey> quiet mmm new hardware maybe ?
[02:31] <quiet> why would i need new hardware????
[02:31] <quiet> this is a notebook btw
[02:31] <egoleo> onkashinde >> can i get the KEY to export?
[02:31] <quiet> not too big of a deal... just kind of odd that it doesn't work right.
[02:31] <quiet> first time i'
[02:31] <GreenFireD> onkarshinde, what to do with this?
[02:31] <egoleo> bcos i am still getting that error using synaptic
[02:31] <quiet> i've seen it happen
[02:32] <axisys> anyone knows how to filter out the join and quit messages?
[02:32] <axisys> i am using irssi
[02:32] <egoleo> Seveas >> can i get the KEYS to export
[02:33] <Kaloz> [C/win 35
[02:33] <intelikey> quiet sounds like a framebuffering error.  might search the wiki's
[02:33] <egoleo> or the command to do that with the KEYS
[02:33] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: At least your file looks okay. type command  'sudo cp /etc/apt.sources.list.backup /etc/apt.sources.list' on terminal (without quotes) And then tell me what you want to install.
[02:33] <sn9> axisys: there is a setting. i forget
[02:33] <MaTaKs> whats the command to unzip a file in terminal?
[02:33] <sn9> MaTaKs: unzip
[02:33] <onkarshinde> MaTaKs: unzip
[02:33] <quiet> intelikey, probably... I found the error because I always boot with vga=773 and I wasn't getting the splash.. so I removed it, and there it was.
[02:33] <egoleo> i have added the christian marrilat
[02:34] <MaTaKs> unzip <file>?
[02:34] <egoleo> repos to my source.list
[02:34] <onkarshinde> MaTaKs: Yes.
[02:34] <MaTaKs> ok thnx
[02:34] <egoleo> now when i do update
[02:34] <sn9> egoleo: do not use marillat for ubuntu
[02:34] <egoleo> it complains of some KEYS
[02:34] <egoleo> so which one
[02:34] <egoleo> bcos i have mplayer running
[02:34] <intelikey> quiet try 781   and 789  both should work ok.
[02:35] <egoleo> but i have problem playing a dvd movie
[02:35] <Ng> axisys: I think this should work: /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS
[02:35] <quiet> hrm... okay hold on
[02:35] <egoleo> i get this errpr
[02:35] <egoleo> error that
[02:35] <egoleo> the movie is encrypted
[02:35] <axisys> Ng: let me try
[02:35] <sn9> !tell egoleo about dvd
[02:35] <egoleo> so how do i watch this movie
[02:35] <thirso> hey guys im getting a wierd keyboard layout on cedega, where can i configure it?
[02:35] <egoleo> i am using breezy
[02:36] <Profeta> hey guyz, why I can use that d3a icons on gdesklet launcher bar?
[02:36] <Ng> egoleo: have you followed the DVD instructions on the RestrictedFormats wiki page?
[02:36] <sn9> egoleo: hoary-extras works on breezy for now
[02:36] <egoleo> yes
[02:36] <LokeDK> Is it possible to disable the updaters stupid popup? it's ruining EVERY GAME I'M PLAYING
[02:36] <egoleo> now is complaining of KEYS
[02:36] <axisys> Ng: i think it is working, thnx a lot
[02:36] <egoleo> yes i used yje wiki
[02:36] <GreenFireD> nothing sucssess
[02:37] <dazvid> LokeDK, you can just right click it I thinks
[02:37] <egoleo> and is complaining of KEYS
[02:37] <Ng> egoleo: specifically, did you run the script that downloads libdvdcss?
[02:37] <dazvid> and disable
[02:37] <pdlnhrd> can someone help? i just installed ubuntu, and i am trying to figure out exactly which kernel i should have for my intel x86_64 proccessor?  i believe that i need an smp kernel for the hypertreading, but i don't see an option for an smp for x86_64
[02:37] <Ng> egoleo: sometimes people miss that bit
[02:37] <sn9> egoleo: hoary-extras will complain about keys. ignore it
[02:37] <egoleo> which is ?
[02:37] <egoleo> which script
[02:38] <egoleo> sn9
[02:38] <egoleo> still cant show dvd
[02:38] <LokeDK> can't disable it.. just have to live with it ruining games .. stupid FUCK
[02:38] <egoleo> so how do i ignore it
[02:38] <dazvid> Another happy customer?
[02:38] <sn9> egoleo: if you use hoary-extras, it will install, but still complain
[02:39] <odd-> :p
[02:39] <Ng> LokeDK: you could stop update-notifier, or file a bug, or send a patch :)
[02:39] <odd-> I was wondering how to do soemthing..
[02:39] <Ng> egoleo: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[02:39] <Ng> egoleo: (the script bit)
[02:39] <odd-> When I download files I usually have to go to their directories, so as to run them..
[02:39] <Ng> egoleo: if you already did that bit then ignore me and don't bother doing it again ;)
[02:39] <odd-> Is there any way to avert this so as to run them from any directory?
[02:39] <LokeDK> I'll send a patch when I have learned how to hack programs
[02:40] <odd-> It's just a long process.
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> LokeDK, i am confused. I get one update once every morning ...
[02:40] <thirso> whats the file i have to edit so that modules can automatically loaded?
[02:40] <quiet> intelikey, "insmod: can't read /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/vesafb.ko:' No such file or directory"    (that may not be exactly the string... I had to type before it scrolled off-screen... But it's definitely the vesafb.ko
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> I don't see how it disrupt my games or work
[02:40] <sn9> thirso: /etc/modules
[02:40] <aftertaf> odd-:  most things install to bin directories that are in path....
[02:40] <aftertaf> odd-:  you can add new paths to /etc/profile
[02:40] <Ng> wickedpuppy: it might steal focus or something
[02:40] <odd-> oh
[02:40] <odd-> oh okay..
[02:41] <ben801010> hello
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> Ng, once every morning when i boot my com ? I think its forgivable .. no ?
[02:41] <sn9> odd-: what did you download that you want to run that way?
[02:41] <odd-> nmap
[02:41] <topyli> odd-: you can make links: ln -s /opt/install/dir/program/bin/program /usr/local/bin/program
[02:41] <topyli> odd-: and it will be in your path
[02:42] <intelikey> quiet ya fb issue.   do a lsmod and see if vesa got loaded some time after that.
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> nmap if you install nmap from apt-get/synaptic , it will be in your path
[02:42] <Ng> wickedpuppy: I happen to agree with you, I leave my PC on all the time and some mornings there are updates waiting, howeever, I can also accept that timezones might mean that puts it in the middle of other peoples evenings and stealing focus is never cool ;)
[02:42] <topyli> odd-: if it doesn't work, make a little script that changes to the install dir and then runs the binary
[02:42] <pdlnhrd> anyone know how to pass the hostname parameter when asking for a dhcp address?  my dns entry is my mac address... i would prefer it to by my machine name
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> i mean odd-
[02:42] <sn9> odd-: nmap is in synaptic/apt-get
[02:42] <odd-> Oh..
[02:43] <odd-> No, I installed it from the site, I didn't check synaptic.
[02:43] <egoleo> NG >> says command not found
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> odd pls try apt-get/synaptic before downloading from the sites
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> debian has one damn big repo
[02:43] <Clayson> hey... why can't I remove agpgart in menuconfig and xconfig? (set it to N)
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> lol
[02:43] <egoleo> sudo: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/example/install-css.sh: command not found
[02:43] <quiet> intelikey, yes, vesafb is loaded.
[02:44] <odd-> Alright..
[02:44] <odd-> :p
[02:44] <odd-> (Debian!)
[02:44] <odd-> Okay, but how do I run nmap from any dir. instead of running to that specific folder everytime.
[02:44] <aftertaf> odd-:  true, are you d/ling with apt-get, or getting deb files from websites?
[02:44] <dm_> nice, someone is trying to hack into my wireless router :)
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> but since you got it from insecure ... odd- i assume you just read slashdot ?
[02:44] <Ng> egoleo: that would mean you don't have libdvdread3 installed, which means you don't have gstreamer0.8-dvd installed, which means you probably didn't completely follow the RestrictedFormats wiki page DVD instructions
[02:44] <odd-> I got that from a site.
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> from a site ?
[02:44] <aftertaf> odd-:  run synaptic and reinstall it, itll be available for you
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> i assume its insecure.org ?
[02:45] <odd-> wickedpuppy, I got it from insecure, I don't read slashdot alot of the time anymore.
[02:45] <odd-> alright..
[02:45] <egoleo> ok
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> oh slashdot is interviewing fydor today
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> i thought you read it
[02:45] <odd-> That's cool..
[02:45] <odd-> Nah. I didn't.
[02:45] <topyli> odd-: like i told you. link it to /usr/local/bin
[02:46] <intelikey> quiet then it looks like the initrd will probably be at fault there,  you could make a new initrd.img with the specific settings for your hardware(if it is worth it to you, to see a few seconds of eye-candy at boot time.)
[02:46] <egoleo> NG > can i get the link again wiki
[02:46] <odd-> topyli sorry. Must have had two eyes in 4 places :p
[02:46] <sn9> egoleo: if you remove marillat and add hoary-extras in sources.list, you'll be able to install all you need
[02:46] <Ng> egoleo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:47] <egoleo> ok
[02:47] <_angel> I cannot type some chars in my Turkish keyboard
[02:47] <soo> ddr
[02:47] <_angel> how can I setup my keyboard
[02:48] <_angel> I did in istallition
[02:48] <salam> haloo
[02:48] <thirso> _angel, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[02:48] <egoleo> NG >>
[02:48] <soo>   
[02:48] <egoleo> first is adding this to source,lsit deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[02:49] <odd-> _angel what did you install?
[02:49] <rohal> can anyone tell me which one should i opt for debian or ubuntu?
[02:49] <egoleo> and that is what is given me the problem
[02:49] <egoleo> NG
[02:49] <salam>    
[02:49] <Ng> egoleo: right, ignore that bit, you don't need that repository for the dvd packages
[02:49] <_angel> kubuntu
[02:49] <Ng> egoleo: people keep rewriting that page so it makes no sense :(
[02:49] <egoleo> ok
[02:49] <egoleo> ok
[02:49] <intelikey> rohal that would be called "trolling"  :)
[02:49] <odd-> ko
[02:49] <sn9> egoleo: do not add marillat
[02:50] <egoleo> ok
[02:50] <egoleo> so i should take it off
[02:50] <Ng> yes
[02:50] <egoleo> so which one first
[02:50] <rohal> intelikey: which one u think is better?
[02:50] <topyli> rohal: which one do you like better? go with that one
[02:50] <aftertaf> rohal:  are you new to linux or not?
[02:50] <Ng> egoleo: start from the bit where they install totem-xine and some gstreamer stuff
[02:50] <rohal> i am not new to linux but to debian based linux
[02:50] <intelikey> but don't tell anyone else.....
[02:50] <egoleo> ok
[02:51] <egoleo> doing that
[02:51] <_angel> there is nothing like system -->prefs ??
[02:51] <odd-> -shouts-
[02:51] <topyli> rohal: ask here, people will probably recommend ubuntu. for a second opinion, ask on #debian :)
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> rohal, debian based red hat based ... all no different
[02:51] <mahangu> rohal, use ubuntu :p
[02:52] <salam> haloo for all
[02:52] <topyli> wickedpuppy: well, that's one of the biggest differences you can find among linux distributions :)
[02:52] <rohal> topyli: ubuntu...bcuz it is easily available...& easy to install...or there is anything else?
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> so is other distros ...
[02:52] <egoleo> Ng >> now is given me this problem rather
[02:52] <egoleo> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:53] <egoleo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[02:53] <rohal> wht if i want to install kde on ubuntu.....not kubuntu...:)
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> i tried fedora , suse , red hat , slackware , solaris , freebsd ... all no difference
[02:53] <Ng> egoleo: that's not really a problem, it's a warning, you can ignore it and still install packages
[02:53] <aftertaf> egoleo:  ignore, it willsoon be fixed
[02:53] <egoleo> ok
[02:53] <odd-> SIngapore must be a nice place to be in daily.
[02:53] <topyli> rohal: it has sane defaults all taken care for you. if you want to set it all up for yourself, debian is a clean table for you to mess on
[02:54] <aftertaf> rohal:  same thing.... ubuntu & kde becomes kubuntu. like kubuntu & gnome... both same base system.
[02:54] <Darkster> tag
[02:54] <odd-> thanks topyli..
[02:54] <intelikey> rohal trolling is generally frowned upon.    if you ask which is better linux or windows in a linux channel take a wild guess which they will say.   so you enter #ubuntu and ask "which should i use <blah> or ubuntu"    like duhhh  get a clue.
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> yup ... nothing exciting here ... unless i start installing gentoo .. lol
[02:54] <Rawplayer> which packages do i need to install to compile something from source?
[02:54] <rohal> topyli: i installed ubuntu yesterday...& its already messed up...
[02:54] <egoleo> Ng >> sudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[02:54] <egoleo> also give me an error
[02:54] <topyli> Rawplayer: start with build-essential
[02:55] <egoleo> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[02:55] <aftertaf> rohal:  explain in what way it messed up.
[02:55] <rohal> intelikey: but since ubuntu & debian are like siblings so i thought you people wont be biased....
[02:55] <aftertaf> !tell egoleo about repositories
[02:55] <aftertaf> !tell egoleo about restricted
[02:55] <sn9> Rawplayer: you also need -dev pkgs depending on what you're compiling
[02:55] <intelikey> hehhe think again
[02:55] <topyli> rohal: cool! you have a project for the evening fixing it :)
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> rohal, you must be only child if you think siblings won't fight
[02:55] <egoleo> aftertaf
[02:55] <aftertaf> lol intelikey , here have a wooden spoon
[02:55] <egoleo> that is where i am
[02:55] <egoleo> that i am getting that problem
[02:55] <rohal> aftertaf:i am unable to launch X....it says bitmap module missing but i have already installed bitmap thrice...
[02:55] <aftertaf> egoleo:  go to and read those links, theyll help you
[02:56] <intelikey> probably more bias there than there would be in less related distros.
[02:56] <aftertaf> rohal:  thrice /:-)
[02:56] <sorush20> some of my print jobs don't get though to the printer.. they go into the queue and they just disappear.. how can I rest my printer..
[02:56] <aftertaf> rohal:  ill leave that t the experts ;)
[02:56] <intelikey> aftertaf thrice is a good word....
[02:56] <rohal> topyli:i always want it to be messed up....i have a gentoo installation which is running almost perfect....but i didnt want that......
[02:56] <topyli> sorush20: the power cord?
[02:57] <odd-> gentoo.
[02:57] <rohal> topyli:thats why moved to ubuntu....
[02:57] <odd-> Sux
[02:57] <odd-> gay
[02:57] <aftertaf> yeah intelikey i picked up on that majorly :D
[02:57] <odd-> nuts
[02:57] <sorush20> topyli: I've done that a hundred times..
[02:57] <Sonderblade> which ubuntu package(s) contain the gnu toolchain stuff?
[02:57] <odd-> slackware's a better distro than both ubuntu and gentoo.
[02:57] <cyphase> why is firefox segfaulting?
[02:57] <aftertaf> odd-:  dont troll
[02:57] <intelikey> rohal run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " and try again.
[02:57] <cyphase> on my fresh breezy installation?
[02:57] <sn9> Sonderblade: build-essential
[02:57] <topyli> !start a distro war
[02:57] <ubotu> topyli: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:57] <aftertaf> lol topyli :)
[02:57] <rohal> topyli:now i am planing to install kde in that ubuntu...to mess it up a little more...:)
[02:57] <topyli> oh, where are all the warmongering commands?
[02:58] <egoleo> aftertaf
[02:58] <egoleo> that is the same pages i had those commands from
[02:58] <egoleo> and i am getting those problem
[02:58] <rohal> intelikey:k thanks...
[02:58] <Sonderblade> sn9: it doesnt contain intltoolize it seem
[02:59] <leagris> I am still looking for a way to mount my cdrom in userspace while in cmd line
[02:59] <cyphase> Why is Firefox segfaulting on my fresh Breezy installation?
[02:59] <levander> Anybody got a link for what this new "server build" version of ubuntu is about?  Not finding a good description on ubuntu.com.
[02:59] <dazvid> !start an irc client war
[02:59] <ubotu> xchat is better than konversation !
[02:59] <leagris> I have looked at pmount-hal but how do I use it ?
[02:59] <nomed> hi all
[02:59] <levander> dazvid: there's a gnome irc client?
[02:59] <nomed> it seems i can't use nvidia driver
[02:59] <sn9> Sonderblade: pkg name: intltool
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> levander, x-chat
[02:59] <dazvid> apparently so
[03:00] <leagris> How do I know the <hal uid> of the cdrom ?
[03:00] <nomed> i cn't use 1024x768 res .. just 800x600
[03:00] <levander> leagris: what's wrong with the "mount" command
[03:00] <topyli> levander: xchat is close enough
[03:00] <dazvid> !start a desktop war
[03:00] <ubotu> cde is much better than gnome!
[03:00] <aftertaf> egoleo:  ok, nuff said.... paste your sources.list to a pastebin.....
[03:00] <nomed> does this happen to anyone else?
[03:00] <topyli> ooh, cde!
[03:00] <Sonderblade> sn9: thanks
[03:00] <intelikey> leagris in your /etc/fstab   add "users" to the line that describes your cdrom drive and make the mount point what ever you like.
[03:00] <aftertaf> egoleo:  but the gpg error is to be disregarded
[03:00] <leagris> the mount command does not work as a user and it dos not like to work with the media:// thing for removable mediums
[03:01] <levander> leagris: read what aftertaf said
[03:01] <sn9> leagris: mount can be made to work as user
[03:01] <egoleo> is where can i get a pastebin
[03:01] <mustard5> !tell nomed about fixres
[03:01] <topyli> leagris: you should enable user mounts in fstab
[03:01] <intelikey> leagris mount works for users   but you need "users" in the fstab
[03:01] <levander> nobody knows a good page describing the "server build" versoin of ubuntu?
[03:02] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[03:02] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:02] <dmlinux_> Oooh, ) playing with airsnort :) fun stuff
[03:02] <leagris> oki, but it ille interfere with the hald daemon tring to script automounting isn't it ?
[03:02] <topyli> levander: there's no separate server build. just install the base system by starting the installer with the "server" option, then add the services you wish
[03:02] <leagris> it may
[03:02] <intelikey> leagris something like "/dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto defaults,ro,noauto,users,umask=0 0 0"
[03:02] <sorush20> the more and more I use ubuntu
[03:03] <intelikey> leagris notice   "users"   ^
[03:03] <leagris> intelikey, I like the way I can show cd cdrom icon in gnome while inserting a cd
[03:03] <leagris> I don't want to break this
[03:03] <leagris> I thought I had to talk th hald daemon with pmount-hal in order to do this accordingly
[03:03] <egoleo> i have done than
[03:03] <intelikey> leagris it wont break it if you just add a line.
[03:04] <egoleo> so what will happen
[03:04] <intelikey> a device can be described more than one time in fstab
[03:05] <leagris> intelikey, ok that's neat. I didn't know it after 6 years of Linux. Thanks
[03:06] <leagris> New things goes, new kernels, now way of doing things as well. I tent to be a bit lost when ubuntu or a modern linux distro make sit too easy anotherway I didn't know off :)
[03:07] <dmlinux_> Wee cracking peoples Wep is awesome :P
[03:07] <leagris> sori, I tray hard not to go the hard low level to not break the nice advanced features
[03:07] <leagris> so I tray
[03:07] <egoleo> sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[03:07] <nomed> mustard5: http://phpfi.com/82740
[03:07] <DarkSeid> folks fix the HAL problems yet?
[03:07] <intelikey> well test it and see if you don't like it you can always put it back like you had it leagris.
[03:07] <egoleo> error with it
[03:08] <egoleo> sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[03:08] <egoleo> errors
[03:08] <clineco> when i try to install mplayer i get this message: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3240
[03:08] <nomed> it seems correct .. and ddcprobe gives me an empty string if i grep monitorrange
[03:08] <sn9> clineco: do not use marillat
[03:08] <DarkSeid> has the HAL problem been fixed yet?
[03:09] <leagris> you know. I am the blond geek girl, tweaking hard with smbclient for years and discovering the way Kde does it :)))
[03:09] <clineco> sn9, what repository should i use to install mplayer?
[03:09] <sn9> clineco: just the regular ubuntu ones
[03:09] <mustard5> nomed, did you see the message that ubotu sent you?
[03:09] <nomed> mustard5: yes ..
[03:09] <mustard5> nomed, did you read it?
[03:10] <jo> I would like to be able to download the NYTimes crossword program, acrosslite. And I also like a RealArcade game called Luxor. Is there software available to translate these?
[03:10] <nomed> i made the same that is explained on that link
[03:10] <mustard5> ah ok
[03:10] <mustard5> k
[03:10] <BluesRocker> How can I edit start menu?
[03:10] <clineco> sn9, i cant find the package on regular ubuntu repositories
[03:11] <onkarshinde> BluesRocker: smeg should be helpful.
[03:11] <nomed> anyone here has a toshiba satellite laptop?
[03:11] <DarkSeid> has the HAL problem been fixed yet?
[03:11] <mustard5> nomed, did following the instructions help at all?
[03:11] <sn9> clineco: are they all enabled?
[03:11] <daleth> So, what's the easiest wireless (b/g) PCMCIA card to get working in Ubuntu?
[03:11] <BluesRocker> !smeg
[03:11] <ubotu> somebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:11] <nomed> mustard5: i've never had problem with nvidia driver .. since xfree86
[03:12] <mustard5> nomed, did following the instructions help at all?
[03:12] <nomed> i think it depends on driver version
[03:12] <mahangu_> daleth, ive used usb devices, and asus is pretty easy
[03:12] <nomed> mustard5: not
[03:12] <BluesRocker> onkarshinde, tnx
[03:12] <mahangu_> ubotu tell daleth about wifi
[03:12] <mahangu_> check your pms daleth
[03:12] <sn9> daleth: netgear wg511t
[03:12] <mustard5> nomed, that's the most assistance I can offer you, sorry...I'm not an expert on display problems
[03:12] <Zealot87> how do i turn my swap on?
[03:13] <nomed> mustard5: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange <--- empty string .. dpkg-reconfigure ... generate an xorg.conf not usable with 1024x768
[03:13] <toran> has anyone else had any font problems with torsmo? I can't change its font at all
[03:13] <mahangu_> Zealot87, ubuntu will find and use your swap if you specified it during the install
[03:13] <clineco> sn9, yes, except breezy-backports which i cannot get source packages
[03:13] <DarkSeid> has the HAL problem been fixed yet?
[03:13] <Zealot87> i did, but it hasnt used any of it yet
[03:13] <Zealot87> well except for the 12.2 mb but thats been on since it installed
[03:13] <mustard5> nomed, that's the most assistance I can offer you, sorry...I'm not an expert on display problems
[03:13] <nomed> DarkSeid: maybe you could take a look on changelog ?
[03:14] <sn9> clineco: if you have main restricted universe multiverse and hoary-extras, you don't need others
[03:14] <onkarshinde> ubotu: smeg is somebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Installed by default Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy). For Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:14] <ubotu> ...but smeg is already something else...
[03:14] <Zealot87> so ubuntu doesnt use the swap space that much?
[03:14] <onkarshinde> ubotu: forget smeg
[03:14] <ubotu> onkarshinde: i forgot smeg
[03:14] <mustard5> Zealot87, depends on your system
[03:14] <onkarshinde> ubotu: smeg is somebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Installed by default Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy). For Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:14] <Zealot87> how so
[03:15] <mahangu_> Zealot87, it does, when your memory runs low
[03:15] <mustard5> Zealot87, if you don't have much RAM you would use it a lot
[03:15] <onkarshinde> !smeg
[03:15] <ubotu> onkarshinde: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:15] <Zealot87> my memory runs low alot of the time! :P
[03:15] <mahangu_> haha
[03:15] <onkarshinde> smeg is somebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Installed by default Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy). For Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> Zealot87, how much ram you got ??
[03:15] <Zealot87> it will be at hundred percent use when i have firefox, gaim, xchat, amaraok all open
[03:15] <Zealot87> 512mb
[03:15] <onkarshinde> how to add some definition to the bot?
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> i got 512 too ...
[03:15] <mustard5> Zealot87, you have ample memory :D
[03:15] <mahangu_> Zealot87, generally your swap takes care of itself
[03:16] <mustard5> Zealot87, I'm on 256mb
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[03:16] <onkarshinde> !smeg
[03:16] <ubotu> onkarshinde: What?
[03:16] <mahangu_> Zealot87, im on 512 and i have lots of windows open
[03:16] <Zealot87> maybe my processor is slow then
[03:16] <mahangu_> dont worry about it
[03:16] <tyliu> Hi ,everyone ,i updated to 510,my java applicaion use JDBC connect to mysql is bad ,Why ?who can help me ?
[03:16] <Zealot87> does ubuntu use a lot of processor power?
[03:16] <mahangu_> Zealot87, what is slow?
[03:16] <Zealot87> 1.1 ghz
[03:16] <mahangu_> opening new programs?
[03:16] <mahangu_> switching windows
[03:16] <mahangu_> what
[03:16] <mustard5> Zealot is the problem when you first start using the computer after booting up?  Could be system processes running in the background doing houseword
[03:16] <Zealot87> umm
[03:17] <mustard5> *houseword
[03:17] <mahangu_> Zealot87, applications > system tools> system monitor
[03:17] <mustard5> *housework
[03:17] <Zealot87> no it just seems firefox is slow moving around and doing stuff
[03:17] <mahangu_> click the resources tab
[03:17] <clineco> sn9, how do i put hoary-extras on sources.list?
[03:17] <onkarshinde> ubotu: smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Installed by default in Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy). For Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:17] <ubotu> onkarshinde: okay
[03:17] <intelikey> Zealot87 as a general rule linux doesn't use swap space unless it has less than x% ram free.    however most apps allocate ram.  that is claim it as used even though there is noting written too it.   which means that if you run the same system with 128m ram and no swap   or 2g ram and 4g swap  you probably wont ever notice a differance unless you actually use all of the 128m
[03:17] <pitti> DarkSeid: dude, I have about 20 different hal bugs in bugzilla :-) Which one do you mean?
[03:17] <onkarshinde> !smeg
[03:17] <ubotu> hmm... smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Installed by default in Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy). For Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:17] <tyliu> Hi ,everyone ,i updated to 510,my java applicaion use JDBC connect to mysql is bad ,Why ?who can help me ? ps :my adsl was't ok in startup
[03:18] <tyliu> ?
[03:18] <sn9> clineco: deb http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/ hoary-extras main restricted universe multiverse
[03:18] <mustard5> 0_o
[03:18] <sn9> !zh
[03:18] <ubotu> sn9: I give up, what is it?
[03:19] <Zealot87> ok i gues im just imagining things
[03:19] <Zealot87> ha
[03:19] <Zealot87> byebye
[03:19] <angel_> ping me
[03:19] <intelikey> Zealot87 also the same apps running on the same system with one 128m ram stick  one time and 2 1g sticks another time will show drastickly different memory usage because of allocating.
[03:19] <Lord_Maynoth> hey do you guys know freeciv will not install from the add/remove programs applet?
[03:20] <sn9> tyliu: which java were you using?
[03:21] <tyliu> use j2sdk1.42_09
[03:21] <intelikey> i lag.......
[03:21] <agabus> ive finally got my ubuntu installed on my laptop. im working on getting ndiswrappers to get installed. i run through a few steps and get to 'sudo modprode ndiswrapper' then the computer freezes and i have to hard shutdown. any help?
[03:21] <tyliu> mysql version is 4.1
[03:21] <onkarshinde> Lord_Maynoth: I suppose FreeCiv is not in main repos.
[03:21] <onkarshinde> Any idea when HP custon CD of breezy will be available?
[03:21] <sn9> tyliu: sun java or blackdown?
[03:21] <tyliu> sun java
[03:21] <DarkSeid> well it still looks as if the HAL is borked
[03:21] <DarkSeid> ooh well
[03:22] <DarkSeid> maybe sometime this weel
[03:22] <DarkSeid> week too
[03:22] <specialbuddy> Failed to fetch http://us.http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'us.http'
[03:22] <specialbuddy> Failed to fetch http://us.http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/source/Sources.gz  Could not resolve 'us.http'
[03:22] <specialbuddy> Failed to fetch http://us.http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Could not resolve 'us.http'
[03:22] <specialbuddy> Reading package lists... Done
[03:22] <specialbuddy> anyone know what that means
[03:22] <sn9> tyliu: where did you install sun java from?
[03:22] <agabus> anyone?
[03:22] <RockyBurt> when i do an apt-get update i get the following:    W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:22] <mustard5> !tell specialbuddy about pastebin
[03:23] <BluesRocker> hoe to run a script?
[03:23] <specialbuddy> tell mustard5 that I've been there
[03:23] <jabra> anyone know of a channel for linux digitial camera ppl
[03:23] <onkarshinde> specialbuddy: what does that http://pastebin thing is doing in between the repos link?
[03:23] <mustard5> specialbuddy, don't paste in this channel plz
[03:23] <tyliu> i downloaded the j2sdk1.42_09.bin from sun.com
[03:23] <jabra> trying to figure out if sd400 from cannon is supported
[03:23] <sn9> specialbuddy: it means you've got garbage in sources.list
[03:23] <ubuntu> :D
[03:24] <defcon8> got my cd's
[03:24] <specialbuddy> what kind of garbage
[03:24] <sn9> tyliu: and you used make-jpkg on it?
[03:24] <defcon8> going to be distributing them to my friends tomorrow
[03:24] <defcon8> is the latest ver hoary hedgehog?
[03:24] <tyliu> sn9: yes
[03:24] <ScatterBrain> Anyone having trouble with IPW2200?
[03:24] <sn9> defcon8: no. that's old
[03:24] <Lord_Maynoth> I thick its acenous ardvark
[03:24] <agabus> is anyone in here atm running ubuntu with wireless?
[03:24] <_sam> Does anyone know where evolution stores your calendars?
[03:24] <defcon8> sn9, yeah it took a long time to get here
[03:25] <onkarshinde> specialbuddy: Can you just look at whatever you pasted? Can't you see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl thing in your repos? Remove it.
[03:25] <dereks__> is there any documentation on gnome-app-install?
[03:25] <sn9> tyliu: maybe you should do the make-jpkg again under 5.10
[03:25] <specialbuddy> ok
[03:25] <defcon8> so what is the package manager for ubuntu?
[03:26] <morphix> synaptic.
[03:26] <Toma-> defcon8: apt
[03:26] <dazvid> defcon8, apt-get / synaptic
[03:26] <onkarshinde> defcon8: apt-get or Synaptic
[03:26] <sn9> defcon8: dpkg, of course
[03:26] <ScatterBrain> defcon8: Apt or Synaptic
[03:26] <tyliu> ?you mean?
[03:26] <defcon8> ahh same as debian then
[03:26] <defcon8> ok
[03:26] <onkarshinde> sn9: Sorry, you are right.
[03:26] <tyliu> sn9: you mean?
[03:26] <onkarshinde> dpkg is right. same as rpm is for redhat
[03:27] <sn9> tyliu: if you did make-jpkg under 5.04, maybe you need to do it again
[03:27] <specialbuddy> should I upgrade to Breezy?
[03:27] <tyliu> sn9: o,i try
[03:27] <defcon8> is there stuff like sarge and etch on ubuntu or is it all one thing and the latest packages?
[03:28] <qbeek> what is the minimal configuration for an ubuntu install as server?
[03:28] <salutis> when be new ubuntu guide for breezy?
[03:28] <mustard5> defcon8, we have hoary and breezy
[03:28] <dereks__> defcon8: sarge/etch are versions of debian
[03:28] <qbeek> I did not find this on the wiki :(
[03:28] <defcon8> dereks__, i was saying it for means of comparison
[03:28] <defcon8> mustard5, is breezy for latest packages?
[03:28] <Antioch> specialbuddy, heck yea, breezy is, for lack of a better word, so sexy
[03:29] <Antioch> lol
[03:29] <mustard5> defcon8, breezy badger is latest
[03:29] <Antioch> ;)
[03:29] <dazvid> qbeek, You can type "server" at the first prompt of the ubuntu installation
[03:29] <specialbuddy> K
[03:29] <dereks__> defcon8: ubuntu releases are a snapshot of sid
[03:29] <tyliu> sn9: my ADSL auto connection wasn't work,my edited the '/etc/networks/interfaces'  too
[03:29] <dazvid> not 100% what it installs.. but im sure someone here knows
[03:29] <defcon8> dereks__, i dont really know the debian release names so well either, what do you mean?
[03:30] <Jedrick> How to make a shell?
[03:30] <dereks__> defcon8: sid = unstable
[03:30] <GreenFireD> what is the default font name that use terminal?
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> Jedrick,  you mean what icon you clik on to get to the terminal?
[03:30] <salutis> when will be completed new ubuntu guide for breezy version?
[03:30] <defcon8> cool
[03:30] <Jedrick> no
[03:30] <GreenFireD> and where can i find this, witch foulder
[03:31] <DarkSeid> looks like the list of dead USB after Breezy upgrades is growing
[03:31] <Jedrick> it's like i want to be a server of some psybnc and they say i need to have shell
[03:31] <Jedrick> so how to make one?
[03:31] <defcon8> usb ports are breaking>?
[03:31] <defcon8> Jedrick, dont be silly mate
[03:31] <defcon8> if you are willing to keep your computer on all the time you can serve it yourself
[03:31] <DarkSeid> after the upgrade from hoary to breezy
[03:31] <DarkSeid> dead USB
[03:32] <specialbuddy> are there any documents on how to upgrade to breezy?
[03:32] <GreenFireD> what is the name of default font that is useing terminal or in Firefox?
[03:32] <defcon8> or you can pay for someone else to server your psybnc. some shell providers also give you a psybnc account included
[03:32] <sn9> tyliu: BTW, i'm curious: when you entered the chinese characters into xchat, was input method set to "default" or "x input method" ?
[03:32] <mustard5> specialbuddy, yes
[03:32] <mustard5> !tell specialbuddy about breezy
[03:32] <Jedrick> defcon8:  do you know how to make psyBNC?
[03:32] <specialbuddy> where are they?
[03:32] <defcon8> !tell defcon8 about breezy
[03:32] <defcon8> Jedrick, yes and so does google. have a look
[03:32] <mustard5> specialbuddy, look at the message from ubotu
[03:32] <defcon8> tons of tutorials
[03:32] <mustard5> specialbuddy, its in there
[03:32] <specialbuddy> ubotu?
[03:33] <GreenFireD> what is the name of default font that is useing terminal or in Firefox?
[03:33] <defcon8> yeah man
[03:33] <mustard5> can you receive private messages in irc specialbuddy ?
[03:33] <Jedrick> ok so no need to install anything?
[03:33] <defcon8> that terminal font is sexy isnt it
[03:33] <specialbuddy> I think so
[03:33] <mustard5> well ubotu sent you one
[03:33] <mustard5> !breezy
[03:33] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:33] <Toma-> they should have packaged ubuntu-ttf with breezy :( it looks awesome at the wm font
[03:36] <_ShoGo_> hi all
[03:36] <mustard5> hi _ShoGo_
[03:36] <_ShoGo_> i have upgraded my kernel but I't doesn't starts. It displays kernel not syncing VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)
[03:36] <Boki2k> hi i need some help in console ^^
[03:37] <toran> how do I set my cursor theme in a desktop environment besides KDE (fluxbox)
[03:37] <toran> ?
[03:37] <larsrohdin> Hi! Im currently running a dual boot with win xp. It crashed yesterday(like win. does from time to time) now can I do a repair installation of xp without it overwriting my MBR?
[03:37] <tyliu> sn9: ha,i use x input method
[03:37] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone know how I make my windows paritions stay after I reboot
[03:37] <tyliu> 
[03:37] <Lord_Maynoth> I run that autoconfig script
[03:37] <Boki2k> how can I list all files with  with 3 characters (hidden files too)
[03:37] <Lord_Maynoth> but they are gone when I reboot
[03:37] <_ShoGo_> anybody can help me?
[03:38] <toran> Boki2k: ls -la (at terminal)
[03:38] <mustard5> Lord_Maynoth, that should have worked..you may have to edit fstab manually if it didnt
[03:38] <toran> Boki2k: oh, wait
[03:38] <sn9> Boki2k: ls -d ???
[03:38] <Boki2k> ty an with 3 characters with ***?
[03:38] <toran> Boki2k: ls -lad ???
[03:38] <toran> yeah, you have to get those three question marks
[03:38] <toran> that specifies "any character here"
[03:38] <onkarshinde> Lord_Maynoth: I have same problem. Not always. Sometimes. Are you on hoary?
[03:38] <toran> how do I set my cursor theme in a desktop environment besides KDE (fluxbox)
[03:39] <Alex_BO2> HELLO!how can i disable gdm on the breezy?
[03:39] <sn9> _ShoGo_: update-grub
[03:39] <mustard5> _ShoGo_, keep asking every now and again.
[03:39] <onkarshinde> Alex_BO2: Why do you want to disable it?
[03:39] <_ShoGo_> sn9,  ok ok
[03:39] <Alex_BO2> onkarshinde, i love the shell
[03:39] <_ShoGo_> mustard5, I don't understand u
[03:39] <netmonk> I upgraded from hoary to breezy. My question is after the upgrade is over is there a way to install the orignal breezy settings as if it is a new installation and how can i do this?
[03:40] <mustard5> thats ok, you don't need to :)
[03:40] <Boki2k> hmm how can i list now all files with exactly 3 characters (and hidden files too) plz help
[03:40] <onkarshinde> Alex_BO2: If on breezy may be the services configure dialog should help.
[03:40] <sn9> Boki2k: ls -d ???
[03:40] <larsrohdin> can I do a repair installation of xp without it overwriting my MBR and messing up my GRUB?
[03:40] <GreenFireD> people, I installed some packages, and now, the font in Firefox's menu and in Terminal is very small(1pt), what can i do? I can't see nothing with this font
[03:40] <tyliu> sn9: jdbc already not connect mysql-server?
[03:40] <Boki2k> aaah ty :)
[03:40] <onkarshinde> netmonk: No way. You should have done clean install then.
[03:40] <Orunitia> greenfired: System > Preferences > Font
[03:40] <[David] K-64> toran: system->preferences->mouse   cursors tab under gnome in breezy.
[03:40] <sn9> tyliu: i don't know
[03:40] <onkarshinde> larsrohdin: It should work out of box. Not sure though.
[03:41] <tyliu> tyliu: oh,thanks
[03:41] <_ShoGo_> I'm sorry but my english is not so good...
[03:41] <toran> [David] K-64: sorry, I'm on kubuntu, and I don't use gnome, I use fluxbox
[03:41] <Alex_BO2> onkarshinde, where?
[03:41] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: What packages did you install?
[03:41] <sn9> Alex_BO2: use update-rc.d
[03:41] <mustard5> you may find a ubuntu channel in your language if your lucky
[03:41] <[David] K-64> toran: ah sorry, thought you meant not using KDE with your question
[03:41] <netmonk> onkarshinde, thanks
[03:41] <toran> lol, np :)
[03:41] <GreenFireD> it doesn't help, I changed the terminal's font, and there is now ok, but what about Firefox?
[03:41] <onkarshinde> Alex_BO2: either Apllications->System Tools or System-Administration
[03:41] <GreenFireD> I installed HebUbuntu
[03:41] <mustard5> Firefox has its own font setting in preferences
[03:42] <larsrohdin> onkarshinde, because I need to repair my win, but do you think it writes a new MBR if I do that? And what can I do if it does?
[03:42] <tyliu> why my java application couldn't connect mysql server(4.1)?
[03:42] <_kch_> Is it possible to install ubuntu in an existing and already formated ext3 partition? I have some stuff there and it is not easy to back up them
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> I think in 3-5 years Ubuntu will overtake windows if it keeps growing at this rate
[03:42] <GreenFireD> I can't enter to the proferences in Fierfox, because the font is very small, I don't see nothing
[03:42] <quiet> is distrowatch really slow and broken for anyone else?
[03:42] <Alex_BO2> onkarshinde, i remember that i modified one file in the hoary ( a file called default_dekstop_manager or something like)
[03:43] <quiet> all other sites are working fine for me.
[03:43] <mustard5> GreenFireD, hmm thats a problem
[03:43] <sn9> _kch_: not easily
[03:43] <onkarshinde> larsrohdin: Be ready with boot disk for linux.
[03:43] <Orunitia> Lord_Maynoth: If firefox can't even overtake IE, somehow I doubt Ubuntu is gonna overtake windows :P
[03:43] <GreenFireD> mustard5, I know :(
[03:43] <onkarshinde> larsrohdin: and when done with windows, if anything bad happens, reinstall grub by booting in windows.
[03:44] <mustard5> GreenFireD, maybe you could remove Firefox completely and reinstall?
[03:44] <tyliu> hi ,everybody,why my java application couldn't connect to mysql server(4.1)?in shell,use mysql-client is ok
[03:44] <_kch_> sn9, what would be the problems?
[03:44] <mustard5> GreenFireD, you might have to lose your configurations that way though
[03:44] <larsrohdin> onkarshinde, how?
[03:44] <federico_> so now ubuntu shows windows mounted drives in the desktop and in the places menu? can i change this?
[03:44] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: There is no such package as HebUbuntu. Where did you get it from?
[03:44] <sn9> _kch_: the installer puts stuff all over the place
[03:44] <GreenFireD> mustard5, I think the problem is in the this spesific font, I need to remove/change it
[03:44] <onkarshinde> larsrohdin: mkboot or something. You will need a floppy.
[03:45] <mustard5> GreenFireD, k
[03:45] <GreenFireD> it's from israeli project from http://www.whatsup.org.il
[03:45] <larsrohdin> onkarshinde, ok, i don't have a floppy... but I''ll give it a shot and hope for the best...=)
[03:45] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: And what is it used for?
[03:45] <Toma-> Can anyone give me some feedback on this error? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3241
[03:45] <Toma-> i also get it for rcconf and bum
[03:45] <Alex_BO> i've a problem during the boot.the system checking stop while trying to connect to the time server to syncronize the time.how can i disable it?
[03:45] <GreenFireD> it is install some programs, encodecs(divx) etc
[03:46] <onkarshinde> larsrohdin: If win erases your MBR then you should be able to boot into rescue mode from installation cd of Ubuntu
[03:46] <_kch_> sn9, I already have breezy installed (upgraded from hoary) but i I can not run X. I want to move /home to /home_old and /root to /root_old and erase all others
[03:47] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: It is best not to install something from unknown sources. You never know what will break. Use repositories as far as possible.
[03:47] <_kch_> sn9, the paritition will only have two directories with names that will be different to any other ubuntu directory name
[03:47] <sn9> _kch_: just make tarballs of them on another partition or disk
[03:47] <GreenFireD> u can find explain of this in the forum "community chat" in the topic "HebUbuntu"
[03:47] <mustard5> GreenFireD, did it come with uninstall instructions in a README?
[03:47] <Kyynara> any good tutorials on how to build something from source?
[03:47] <_kch_> sn9, the problem is that they are quite big and I do no have available space for making the tarballs (even using another computer)
[03:48] <sn9> _kch_: then you have a problem
[03:48] <onkarshinde> Kyynara: No need of tutorial. Read the INSTALL or README file of the program you want to install from source
[03:48] <Alex_BO> I'VE A problem during the boot.the system checking stop while trying to connect to the time server to syncronize the time.how can i disable it?
[03:48] <Kyynara> onkarshinde: thanks :)
[03:48] <Kyynara> I really should start using my brains before asking here :)
[03:48] <mustard5> Alex_BO, you on Breezy?
[03:48] <sn9> Alex_BO: you can't wait a few extra seconds?
[03:48] <zoe_> help /nick
[03:49] <Alex_BO> mustard5, yes
[03:49] <GreenFireD> no..
[03:49] <Alex_BO> sn9, no way! :-D
[03:49] <mustard5> Alex_BO, the instruction are in your HELP menu
[03:49] <mustard5> System >> Help
[03:49] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know what ubuntu chose gnome over kde
[03:49] <mustard5> go to the Guide
[03:49] <GreenFireD> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=380926#post380926
[03:49] <Doktoreas> hi guys
[03:49] <_kch_> sori, ubuntu will always format the target / partition, isn't it sn9 ?
[03:49] <GreenFireD> this is HebUBuntu
[03:49] <Doktoreas> is there a guide to install xfce4 in ubuntu?
[03:50] <Boki2k> how can i list all my commands i entered and reenter the 4th command with his number?
[03:50] <Alex_BO> mustard5, and how can i disable the graphical boot?
[03:50] <sn9> _kch_: i think there is an option not to format in the installer, but i wouldn't trust it
[03:50] <Alex_BO> mustard5, well... i would like to have a simple boot like to hoary
[03:50] <_kch_> ok thanks sn9
[03:50] <sn9> Doktoreas: install the pkg xubuntu-desktop
[03:51] <Doktoreas> sn9 it will do everything?
[03:51] <Boki2k> how can i list all my commands i entered and reenter the 4th command with his number?
[03:51] <sn9> Doktoreas: on breezy, yes
[03:51] <GreenFireD> this is my browser, look at the menus: http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/5746/adas3eu.png
[03:51] <Doktoreas> thx sn9
[03:52] <lass0r> how can i list the last command in the history with a command, its a easy command but i forgotten the command :/ help pls
[03:52] <zoexi> hello, I need to give my main user accound write privilages to a 'fat32' partition that I have mounted.  I have tried using chmod, and I get nowhere.  has anyone here done this before?
[03:52] <mustard5> Alex_BO, I don't know how to change that
[03:52] <Doktoreas> sn9: last question, i f i downlaod the dvd, will i got it? cause i haven't right now an internet access
[03:52] <sn9> Doktoreas: i don't know; i haven't seen the dvd
[03:52] <Boki2k> how can i list all my commands i entered and reenter the 4th command with his number?
[03:52] <mustard5> Alex_BO, the instructions you are after are in the 5.10 starters guide under troubleshooting in your HELP menu
[03:52] <GreenFireD> yooooooooooooo I found it!!
[03:53] <Alex_BO> mustard5, okey.thanks
[03:53] <GreenFireD> damn it. I had font size 0
[03:53] <sn9> zoexi: use mount option uid=1000
[03:53] <reagleBRKLN> in breezy, which package is oooprelink in?
[03:53] <Toma-> Anyone know why id get this error? --- Can't locate sys/ioctl.ph in @INC (did you run h2ph?) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .)
[03:53] <Toma-> sorry for spam/flood
[03:53] <reagleBRKLN> for debian, i can always search here: http://packages.debian.org/
[03:54] <sn9> reagleBRKLN: you can look at packages.ubuntu.com the same way
[03:54] <Boki2k> im a professional gfxer if someone help me with my school work (shell (beginner commands) i will create him a signature, wallpaper or whatever
[03:55] <Boki2k> in qry plz
[03:55] <reagleBRKLN> sn9: thanks, it appears oo2 doesn't have a prelink...?
[03:55] <sn9> Boki2k: "help fc" might help you
[03:55] <Sybil> I have a question about Unbuntu live cd...
[03:55] <Sybil> I have tried it on pent4 and pent2 with no problems
[03:55] <Sybil> but when I try it on pent3 I dont seem to be having access to keyboard nor mouse
[03:56] <sn9> Sybil: probably not just because it's a PIII
[03:56] <agabus> man every time i do a 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' my laptop completely freezes :( i need help
[03:56] <Sybil> what shoyld I look for? maybe in bios?
[03:56] <sn9> agabus: what card?
[03:57] <agabus> wpc54gs
[03:57] <sn9> agabus: linksys?
[03:57] <agabus> sn9 - yer linksys
[03:57] <jrattner1> where can i get a new firefox icon for gnome
[03:57] <Sybil> it does run win98 without a problem
[03:57] <sn9> agabus: afaik the GS ones do not work with ndiswrapper
[03:58] <zoexi> sn9, hey, should that be in fstab then?
[03:58] <sn9> Sybil: it could be bios. is it a laptop?
[03:58] <agabus> sn9 - so there's no way for me to use wireless with that card on ubuntu :(?
[03:58] <n3t0> some one from brazil here
[03:58] <n3t0> ?
[03:58] <sn9> agabus: you could try driverloader
[03:58] <Boki2k> german ppl here?
[03:58] <zoexi> sn9, because I don't want to run a mount command every time I start up...
[03:58] <aitiba69> hi
[03:58] <sn9> !de
[03:58] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[03:59] <agabus> sn9 - whats that?
[03:59] <Sybil> not a laptop. just a reg pc intel cpu and asus motherboard. 256 ram
[03:59] <sn9> zoexi: sure
[03:59] <aitiba69> some has this graphics card "Intel Corporation 82852/855 GM Graphics Device"?
[03:59] <Sybil> I have changed mouse 3 times different ones
[03:59] <rss> Hello, since I have only 64MB RAM, I can't frequently use GNOME... a friend recommended me to try screen, which is installed by default... now the fonts in firefox in screen is smaller than the one in GNOME
[03:59] <aitiba69> someone has this graphics card "Intel Corporation 82852/855 GM Graphics Device"?
[04:00] <ubuntunewbie> hello people
[04:00] <sn9> aitiba69: use i810 driver
[04:00] <rss> How to increase the font size of (gnome) applications in console?
[04:00] <thirso> is there any good download manager?
[04:00] <ubuntunewbie> long live ubuntu
[04:00] <oscarh> after a dist-upgrade from hoary do breezy, it says udev already mounted at /dev
[04:00] <oscarh> seems familiar?
[04:00] <aftertaf> oscarh:  udev is a bit borked, will be repaired in the week.
[04:00] <aftertaf> llegedly ;)
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> thirso, what type of downloader ? http ? ftp ? torrent ?
[04:01] <thirso> wickedpuppy, http/ftp
[04:01] <sn9> Sybil: ps/2 kbd/mouse?
[04:01] <jrattner1> where can i get a new firefox icon for gnome?
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> thirso, i like firefox for http and for ftp ... there are tons of ftp clients :P anyone will do
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> rss,  i think you have managed to confuse everyone.
[04:01] <aitiba69> sn9, i'm trying to configure the 3d aceleration, do you know how I can do that?
[04:02] <oscarh> aftertaf, in a "stable" release?
[04:02] <sn9> aitiba69: are you using the i810 driver?
[04:02] <Sybil> no cuz I use the port cuz ps/2 defected
[04:02] <aftertaf> oscarh:  yup..... :/
[04:02] <rss> Dr_Willis: I am using firefox on screen... the text on menu, below icons is very small
[04:02] <oscarh> aftertaf, so, one should not do a dist-upgrade duning this week?
[04:02] <aitiba69> sn9, yes
[04:02] <rss> Dr_Willis: I want to increase it
[04:02] <sn9> Sybil: usb then?
[04:02] <rss> How?
[04:02] <oscarh> aftertaf, I have not heard of this before, and clean install seems to work well
[04:02] <Sybil> no regugal old fashion mouse
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> rss,  screen is a 'shell/text/console' program - useing 'firefox on screen' makes NO sence to me.
[04:02] <thirso> wickedpuppy, yeah but firefox you cant close it and then restart can you
[04:03] <sn9> aitiba69: what does glxinfo show?
[04:03] <Sybil> regular *
[04:03] <thirso> i mean resume
[04:03] <rss> Dr_Willis: I tried opening firefox in plain xinit with a hope of using the same in screen
[04:03] <rss> Dr_Willis: I tried opening firefox in plain xinit with a hope of using the same in screen
[04:03] <wopr> im trying to configure eggdrop and i get this msg: "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:03] <wopr> " ?
[04:03] <rss> sorry for the duplication, which I thought is a window manager
[04:03] <sn9> Sybil: i thought you said the ps/2 mouse port was broken
[04:04] <sn9> Sybil: you mean serial?
[04:04] <rss> so screen can't handle X applications?
[04:04] <ubuntunewbie2> Is there another way of installing application in ubuntu by just clicking on an "setup.exe" file ? kind of like in windows
[04:04] <Sybil> it is
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> rss,    when firefox by itself like that.. the gnome 'perferances' and other settings deamons will proberly not get loaded.. I got no clue about your referance to 'screen' has to do with it.
[04:04] <ubuntunewbie2> where do I download xubuntu ?
[04:05] <sn9> Sybil: you want to configure a serial mouse?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> rss,  screen is just a fancy terminal program that allows multi-terminal sessions and other features.
[04:05] <Sybil> that is what am using serial sorry did not know what it was called :)
[04:05] <rss> Dr_Willis: fine... I was misled
[04:05] <Sybil> I did attach it but I guess it is not reading it
[04:06] <rss> Dr_Willis: so is the ratpoison gui equivalent of screen?
[04:06] <Sybil> but it is when I use windows 98
[04:06] <sn9> ubuntunewbie2: there is not yet a separate xubuntu
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> screen has Nothing to do with  a 'window manager' like Ratposion, or other similer lite-weight window managers.
[04:06] <ubuntunewbie2> sn9: so what is xubuntu ? somebody told me that it is the "ubuntu"  version for old systems (Pentium 1 to 3)
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> ratposion is just a odd-style window manager :P
[04:07] <aitiba69> sn9, taping 'glxinfo' in a console can I know if I have 3d aceleracion active or no? I make this question because i'm not in the pc with this problem
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> ubuntunewbie,  ive installed thenormal ubuntu on a Pent100 system befor. How old/slow are you talking about?
[04:07] <sn9> Sybil: a serial mouse is only automatically detected on computers that don't even have a ps/2 connector
[04:07] <patapouf> re
[04:07] <patapouf> yq qqun ?
[04:07] <sn9> aitiba69: yes
[04:08] <patapouf> bonjour :)
[04:08] <patapouf> j'ai une question de dbutant !
[04:08] <patapouf> je peux ?
[04:08] <sn9> ubuntunewbie2: you can install the xubuntu-desktop pkg
[04:08] <ompaul> !tell patapouf, about fr
[04:08] <aitiba69> sn9, how I can prove if the 3d aceleracion is running weel?
[04:08] <ubuntunewbie2> oh ok let me check that
[04:08] <patapouf> oups
[04:08] <patapouf> ithought i was on the fr chan :s
[04:09] <ompaul> #ubuntu-fr :)
[04:09] <patapouf> sorry
[04:09] <ds[de] > pas d'problme
[04:09] <patapouf> ;)
[04:09] <ubuntunewbie2> so how do you install stuff in unbuntu ? do you click on a "setup.exe" file like in windows or something similair or you just install the packages ?
[04:09] <Sybil> sn9.. so what i got to do is what to make it auto conecting to serial mouse?
[04:09] <ompaul> oui
[04:09] <sn9> Sybil: there is a way to configure a serial mouse in your case, but i haven't done it myself
[04:09] <patapouf> byyyeee
[04:09] <ubuntunewbie2> I mean is there any other way aside from typing commands ?
[04:09] <ompaul> stay
[04:09] <ds[de] > au revoir patapouf
[04:09] <patapouf> really ?
[04:09] <sn9> aitiba69: glxinfo will tell you
[04:09] <ompaul> yeah, but read this dull language
[04:09] <Sybil> n9s ok. no problem. I will use another puter then
[04:09] <Sybil> thanks
[04:10] <ompaul> patapouf, after all you can be in more than one channel at a time
[04:10] <patapouf>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[04:10] <patapouf> erf
[04:10] <ompaul> :)
[04:10] <aitiba69> sn9, thanks
[04:10] <aitiba69> ;)
[04:10] <patapouf> don't laugh at me :D
[04:10] <ompaul> patapouf, that would be against the code
[04:10] <sn9> Sybil: you can try reconfiguring X to use the serial port, but no guarantees
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> patapouf,  theres a bunch of forginers there! :P
[04:11] <rss> ubuntunewbie2: In the panel, select System ->Administration->Synaptic
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> typing commands impresses the chicks more.
[04:11] <rss> ubuntunewbie2: Top left corner
[04:11] <ndazza> Dr_Willis: what kind of chicks do u hang out with?!
[04:11] <ndazza> :p
[04:11] <wopr> ubuntunewbie, or apt-get install "package"
[04:12] <Sybil>  sn9  oppss I guess I dont know about ou can try reconfiguring X :)
[04:12] <Sybil> am using live cd
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> :) Linux-chix!
[04:12] <patapouf> byebye
[04:12] <ndazza> niice
[04:12] <sn9> Sybil: oh. i don't know whether it can be done with the live version
[04:12] <rss> ubuntunewbie2: got it?
[04:13] <ubuntunewbie2> ok let me try that thanks
[04:13] <Sybil> but would not mind installing ubuntu instead of live cd though
[04:13] <sn9> Sybil: but if you install, you can make it work
[04:13] <wopr> how do i enable 3d acceleration?
[04:13] <sn9> wopr: which video card?
[04:13] <rss> wopr: do have a graphic card that supports that?
[04:14] <Sybil> I guess I dont know how to install the cd. do I have to d/l a ver which is not live cd?
[04:14] <sn9> Sybil: yes, or netinstall
[04:14] <wopr> an old ati "3d rage lt pro"
[04:15] <sn9> wopr: should be enabled by default in that case
[04:15] <wopr> name of display: :0.0
[04:15] <wopr> Illegal instruction
[04:15] <Sybil> ok will go look on their website for an install insread of a live cd thanks
[04:15] <wopr> sn9, get that message when i type  glxinfo
[04:16] <sn9> wopr: that's bizarre
[04:16] <sn9> wopr: what cpu?
[04:17] <radiokills> hello
[04:17] <sn9> hi
[04:17] <enyc> 0000
[04:17] <wopr> sn9, verry old one.. amd 400mhz =) not mine
[04:17] <defcon8> how many packages does ubuntu have?
[04:17] <sn9> wopr: 386? 486? p1? p2? p3? amd?
[04:18] <wopr> sn9, amd k6 2
[04:18] <flask-> hi I was running a dist-upgrade to get from Hoary to Breezy and I got this output: http://pastebin.ca/25742  any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
[04:18] <sn9> wopr: oh sorry didn't see that
[04:18] <wopr> :)
[04:18] <puff> Morning.
[04:18] <defcon8> anyone?
[04:18] <flask-> defcon8: a lot. :)
[04:18] <defcon8> and does it have non-free packages in it?
[04:18] <ompaul> defcon8, depends on how you look it
[04:18] <defcon8> as much as debian?
[04:19] <ompaul> defcon8, it has about 20k
[04:19] <sn9> wopr: is your kernel 386 or 686?
[04:19] <defcon8> well is it as anal about non-free stuff as debian?
[04:19] <defcon8> ahh cool then
[04:19] <FliesLikeABrick> what was defcon8's question?
[04:19] <FliesLikeABrick> ah nvm
[04:19] <FliesLikeABrick> i know
[04:19] <wopr> sn9, 386
[04:19] <FliesLikeABrick> "how many packages are available in apt?"
[04:19] <ompaul> defcon8, it allows you to install nonfree if you include the repos
[04:19] <defcon8> yeah
[04:19] <FliesLikeABrick> heh
[04:20] <defcon8> hmm i have the hoary hedgehog cd's on me. will i be able to upgrade to breezy after i install?
[04:20] <FliesLikeABrick> yes defcon8
[04:20] <FliesLikeABrick> see the topic
[04:20] <flask-> anyone?
[04:20] <ompaul> defcon8, the second you have an internet connection yeap
[04:20] <FliesLikeABrick> you can upgrade through apt
[04:20] <sn9> wopr: are you using the driver "ati" ?
[04:20] <defcon8> right
[04:20] <defcon8> oh yeah i heard usb dies
[04:20] <defcon8> what is with that?
[04:21] <flask-> aaaaaaack this failed dist-upgrade has HOSED my system !!
[04:21] <FliesLikeABrick> has anyone been able to use the fglx drivers for ati and been able to suspend/resume without the computer freezing on resume?
[04:21] <wopr> sn9, how do i check if it does?
[04:21] <geoko> when i load the dvb modul (skystar2) does it create the devices automatically?
[04:21] <sn9> wopr: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:22] <anindya> I am experiencing one problem,whenever I am rebooting my ubuntu i have to enter the dns thru system>network settings
[04:22] <anindya> every time..
[04:22] <anindya> any pointers??
[04:22] <FliesLikeABrick> anindya do you use dhcp or static IP?
[04:22] <FliesLikeABrick> on your LAN
[04:22] <anindya> dhcp
[04:22] <wopr> sn9, yes it use ati driver
[04:23] <sn9> anindya: i have the same problem. very annoying
[04:23] <anindya> but suse seems to work with the same setup
[04:23] <FliesLikeABrick> anindya can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> anindya,  i hjad a similer issie when tryign to set up my network card.. and wirless both.
[04:23] <defcon8> i am one for configging myself but deos ubuntu have something like yasy on SuSE?
[04:23] <wopr> sn9, and kbd. donnu what that is
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> defcon8,  you mean 'yast' ?
[04:24] <defcon8> yes Dr_Fate
[04:24] <defcon8> Dr_Willis,
[04:24] <sn9> wopr: it should be enabled then, but i don't know what to do about the glxinfo failure
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> defcon8,  ubuntu has a decent selection of config tools and utilities. Most are the gnome-standard ones I think
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> i had very little i needed to configure really.
[04:24] <defcon8> ok
[04:24] <Jemt> Yeah, Ubuntu runs 'out of the box'
[04:24] <defcon8> naah im on freebsd atm
[04:24] <defcon8> thinking of trying out ubuntu
[04:25] <anindya> FliesLikeABrick : I didnt get about pastebin
[04:25] <Jemt> .. more or less :)
[04:25] <Jemt> Just wish that Backports would be online soon
[04:25] <Jemt> Miss 'em
[04:25] <Jemt> defcon8: Good idea
[04:25] <Ng> argh
[04:25] <Ng> how can you miss backports?!
[04:25] <wopr> sn9, i tried the game planetpenguin-racer and it lags alot.
[04:25] <Ng> there's nothing to port yet!
[04:26] <defcon8> i just dont want stuff to be hosed when i upgrade
[04:26] <sn9> wopr: try a lower resolution
[04:26] <wopr> sn9, k
[04:27] <radiokills> aninyda -> more /etc/network/interfaces
[04:27] <radiokills> and copy/paste output
[04:27] <damian1> hallo miteinander
[04:27] <anindya> okk here it is sorry for pasting here
[04:27] <damian1> hab mir gerade ubuntu installiert, und bin begeistert
[04:28] <anindya> # The loopback network interface
[04:28] <anindya> auto lo
[04:28] <anindya> iface lo inet loopback
[04:28] <anindya> # This is a list of hotpluggable network interfaces.
[04:28] <anindya> # They will be activated automatically by the hotplug subsystem.
[04:28] <anindya> mapping hotplug
[04:28] <anindya>         script grep
[04:28] <anindya>         map eth0
[04:28] <anindya> # The primary network interface
[04:28] <anindya> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:28] <FliesLikeABrick> anindya don't paste here
[04:28] <anindya> auto eth0
[04:28] <anindya> opps i did it already
[04:28] <sn9> !tell damian1 about de
[04:28] <wopr> sn9, hmm i cant start the game at all now
[04:28] <wopr> hmm :)
[04:29] <dao> !tell anindya about paste
[04:29] <federico_> hey, does ubuntu use LVM? i see it starts and stops every time, but aren't the partitions normal ones?
[04:29] <sn9> wopr: i don't know that much about the k6-2
[04:29] <anindya> ok dao,thanks for the info
[04:29] <wopr> sn9, thanks for help anyway
[04:30] <anindya> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3242
[04:31] <anindya> contains the text Flies
[04:31] <anindya> can you pls have a look
[04:31] <Dunston> Aint proftpd not in breezy more?
[04:31] <Ng> federico_: it can use LVM, that's what the start/stop script is doing, looking for any LVM partitions so it can activate them. By default there are no LVM partitions though, it's only for if you've made them manually
[04:32] <federico_> can I remove lvm support safely?
[04:32] <sn9> Dunston: there's vsftpd
[04:33] <Dunston> sn9: okay.. i try that
[04:33] <Ng> federico_: if you want to remove the /etc/rcS.d/S26lvm symlink, sure. I'm not sure you'll really gain anything by doing that though
[04:33] <Sybil> sn9.. me again. is this the file I have to d/l to install ubuntu?-->ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[04:33] <radiokills> anindya try to put "auto eth0" before "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[04:33] <federico_> well, it will boot and shutdown faster....
[04:34] <anindya> okk radiokills
[04:34] <sn9> Sybil: on intel? yes
[04:34] <Sybil> thanks
[04:34] <Ng> federico_: a tiny tiny amount, that script only takes 0.2 seconds to run on my PC
[04:34] <zooko> Greetings, people of #Ubuntu!
[04:34] <levander> Anybody doing much rails development on ubuntu?
[04:34] <Ng> federico_: there are things that take way more time than that on bootup ;)
[04:35] <sn9> zooko: are you the bearer of good news?
[04:35] <federico_> speeding up boot time, it tried to sync time with an ntp server, but i dont enable internet access on boot.
[04:35] <zooko> sn9: I'm afraid not.  My news is that upgrading to Breezy has made by system unbootable and I'm trying to fix it.
[04:36] <Habbie> hello; what 2.6 kernel-image should I use (in ubuntu 5.10) on dual xeon 64bits? it's amd64, not x86_64; I'm pondering em64t-p4-smp
[04:36] <devchris> yo sup everybody
[04:36] <danl_B> neone else had a problem with connecting to a wireless network with breezy? It was odd, i couldn't get an ip, ended session to login as root, says my root password is wrong, but when i logged back in as user, i was instantly connected... my root password works from console...
[04:36] <devchris> what??
[04:36] <devchris> im with daved
[04:36] <sn9> Habbie: x86_64 means AMD
[04:37] <zepeuga> after ive installed ubuntu, when booting it gave me an error 17 on grub. how can i resolve this
[04:37] <devchris> sori was a bitch anyway
[04:37] <Habbie> sn9: I just found out I was misreading stuff indeed ;)
[04:37] <devchris> ya me 2
[04:37] <Habbie> sn9: so, would you recommend em64t-p4-smp in my case?
[04:37] <devchris> so was i\
[04:37] <devchris> I WOULD
[04:37] <devchris> i agree
[04:37] <devchris> yu guys all suck at ubuntuin it up
[04:38] <devchris> common boot me bitches
[04:38] <TPC> I ordered a few ubuntu cds trought shipit last winter, and now I want to update some details, but for some reason I couldn't log in, so I thought that maybe I had forgotten my password. I pressed the 'forgotten your password' link and entered my email, but it couldn't find the account. I tried with two other emails that I also use, just in case, but those didn't have any accounts associated with them either. what should I do?
[04:38] <radiokills> anindya_>http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3244
[04:38] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[04:39] <zepeuga> after ive installed ubuntu, when booting it gave me an error 17 on grub. how can i resolve this ?
[04:39] <da_bon_bon> i installed kde -- but i didnt like it, so removed it with apt-get remove kde* arts
[04:39] <da_bon_bon> that worked
[04:39] <cheemp> tpc: make a new account
[04:39] <da_bon_bon> but problem is, i get kubuntu usplash
[04:39] <da_bon_bon> how do i get the original usplash back ?
[04:39] <sn9> Habbie: linux-image-amd64-xeon
[04:40] <da_bon_bon> also
[04:40] <da_bon_bon> all my menu fonts appear TO BIG
[04:40] <anindya> yeah radiokills I have seen it and made changes...I will just reboot to see, thanks
[04:40] <da_bon_bon> and reducing font size doesnt help
[04:40] <L2-CaStLe> Does anyone else experience that the system freezes or hangs? Could this be connected to the xorg-driver-fglrx for ATI?
[04:40] <Habbie> sn9: will that do SMP?
[04:40] <lon3tree> anyone notice that alien is not available in 5.10?
[04:40] <lon3tree> unless you install it
[04:41] <sn9> Habbie: i don't know. try it
[04:41] <zooko> L@-Castle: I have that experience.
[04:41] <Habbie> sn9: heh
[04:41] <da_bon_bon> summary -- (!) i want original usplash back (2) my menu fonts are too big, reducing font size doesnt help
[04:41] <da_bon_bon> any ideas ?
[04:41] <Ng> lon3tree: it's probably good that it's not in the default install
[04:41] <TPC> cheemp, make a new account? won't I get the cd:s twice if I do that?
[04:41] <lon3tree> why? Ng
[04:41] <zooko> L2-castle i have a system with this video card: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE]  (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[04:41] <TPC> or are all old accounts deleted or something?
[04:41] <L2-CaStLe> zooko, ok, found any workarounds? (except build a new module from ATI's drivers)
[04:41] <Ng> Habbie: you can boot an SMP kernel on a UP machine, so try the SMP one first
[04:42] <Ng> lon3tree: because alien is a very inelegant solution to a very complex problem
[04:42] <L2-CaStLe> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 
[04:42] <zooko> I'm using the "radeon" kernel module.
[04:42] <Habbie> Ng: heh; I came here to ask so I wouldn't have to try ;)
[04:42] <lon3tree> a bit disappointed with 5.10
[04:42] <Habbie> but Il'l be trying anyway it seems
[04:42] <L2-CaStLe> zooko, k, I'm using that myself, use "ati" as driver in xorg.conf
[04:42] <zooko> l2: So I think that is a Free Software module from xorg project.
[04:42] <cheemp> lon3tree why so
[04:42] <lon3tree> is it? Ng
[04:42] <Ng> Habbie: I guess nobody has the same hardware - smp k8 systems are still quite rare ;)
[04:42] <Habbie> Ng: hehe
[04:42] <Habbie> Ng: it's not a k8
[04:42] <Ng> lon3tree: it works for very simple things, but can cause an awful lot of problems :/
[04:42] <zooko> L2: yes, my driver in xorg.conf is "ati".
[04:42] <zooko> Maybe I should try changing it to radeon.
[04:42] <L2-CaStLe> Will have to install the drivers from ATI then, crap
[04:43] <nightswim> Habbie: you can look at the config of the kernel before you reboot
[04:43] <Ng> Habbie: sorry, by k8 I just mean amd64/emt64
[04:43] <zooko> Anyway, the lockups are infrequent, and the workaround is "Don't do anything that uses 3D on that machine".
[04:43] <Ng> Habbie: but you're right
[04:43] <lon3tree> cheemp, i find that it is not as good as Hoary
[04:43] <zooko> That includes screen savers.
[04:43] <Habbie> nightswim: hm, true :)
[04:43] <sn9> zepeuga: what did you install onto?
[04:43] <nightswim> /boot/config-fjgldjlgdfgxeon-emt
[04:43] <L2-CaStLe> oh well
[04:43] <cheemp> i'm still running the breey preview .. it's solid
[04:43] <zooko> L2: haven't tried breezy on that system yet.
[04:43] <zepeuga> sn9, mbr
[04:43] <nightswim> and see if it says if smp is compiled in the kernel or as a module :>
[04:43] <zooko> Since breezy on *this* system made it unbootable, and that system is my wife's...
[04:43] <jorgp> lon3tree: why?
[04:43] <lon3tree> anyone also notice that network speed is slow?
[04:43] <sn9> zepeuga: i mean what device?
[04:44] <Habbie> nightswim: as a module, uh-huh :)
[04:44] <nightswim> (:
[04:44] <zooko> L2: You could read some FAQs for better information, but my impression is that Radeon 9200 is about the most recent one that is well-supported by open source drivers.
[04:44] <sn9> zepeuga: ATA, SCSI, SATA, USB?
[04:44] <zepeuga> sn9, ata i think
[04:44] <cheemp> i was cross compiling an arm kernel yesterday using it... running a full on web server... databases... it's not even shaking
[04:44] <zooko> My experience is that the "9200 Pro" or "RV 280" chip is actually *not* that well-supported by open source drivers...
[04:44] <mjr> zooko, you are correct (well, 9250 is supported too)
[04:44] <da_bon_bon> someone had once given me a command to symlink the vera fonts to Xorgs ttf font folder .. what is that, any idea ?
[04:44] <cheemp> i think breezy is a kickass os
[04:44] <L2-CaStLe> zooko, thought so, but I'll just install the drivers directly from ATI when I have the time
[04:45] <zooko> mjr: thanks.
[04:45] <jorgp> can someone help me get my flash drive to work
[04:45] <sn9> L2-CaStLe: do not download from ati
[04:45] <tarvid> any clues on compaq proliant 2500 install?
[04:45] <bur[n] er> grr... why does rb have to come out after breezy... aw well... here's hoping for backports!
[04:45] <lon3tree> how to speed up my network speed?
[04:45] <bur[n] er> jorgp: it should just show up on the desktop
[04:45] <lon3tree> any idea?
[04:45] <zakame> what are the default boot options for breezy?
[04:45] <L2-CaStLe> sn9, why?
[04:45] <da_bon_bon> bur[n] er: whats rb ?
[04:45] <zooko> So I just booted the hoary live CD in order to fix my breezy install, and it's not doing DNS lookups.
[04:45] <mjr> zooko, though watch out for 9250s, they come in two models, 128 or 64 bit data bus. The number does not reflect this.
[04:45] <sn9> L2-CaStLe: incompatible
[04:45] <Ng> zakame: what kind of boot options?
[04:45] <cheemp> daper drake will be a kickass os
[04:45] <bur[n] er> da_bon_bon: rhythmbox
[04:45] <zooko> It has nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf (from dhcp), and I can ping them, but no name resolutions happen.
[04:46] <L2-CaStLe> sn9, hum, ok, what part is incompatible?
[04:46] <da_bon_bon> oh ok..
[04:46] <cheemp> i wish the distro was more dev oriented tho
[04:46] <da_bon_bon> cheemp: like ?
[04:46] <zakame> Ng: particularly those that pertain to bringing up the splash
[04:46] <zooko> I guess I'll just manually put in IP addr's for ubuntu.com...
[04:46] <zakame> Ng: I was upgrading from hoary...
[04:46] <Ng> zakame: ok, well parameters passed to the kernel are done so from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:46] <da_bon_bon> zooko: why not use public dns servers ?
[04:46] <sn9> L2-CaStLe: if you want ati's drivers, install the linux-restricted-modules for your kernel and xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:46] <zooko> What kernel package should I install to give me the best chance of booting breezy?
[04:46] <zooko> This is an athlon64 system.
[04:46] <tarvid> breezy dies with a Kernel Panic
[04:47] <bur[n] er> zooko: linux-386 :)
[04:47] <zooko> da_bon_bon: I doubt that it is the dns servers at fault...
[04:47] <zepeuga> sn9, so ?
[04:47] <zooko> Since my mac laptop on which I am typing this is using those same servers...
[04:47] <da_bon_bon> ok, zoexii
[04:47] <zooko> burner: thanks.
[04:47] <da_bon_bon> *zooko
[04:47] <Seveas> cheemp, I find Ubuntu ideal for developing :)
[04:47] <specialbuddy> anyone know anything about super karamba
[04:47] <specialbuddy> ?
[04:47] <sn9> zooko: k7
[04:47] <lon3tree> network speed problem
[04:47] <lon3tree> help!
[04:47] <zooko> sn9: thanks.
[04:47] <max_noob> salut
[04:47] <Seveas> specialbuddy, try #kubuntu if no one in here knows
[04:47] <TPC> hm.. the ubuntu torrent is the fastest one ever, I'm getting almost 700kB/s
[04:47] <zooko> I guess I'll enter the ip address for packages.ubuntu.com in order to download the .deb.  :-)
[04:47] <TPC> its slowing down all my other internetting :(
[04:48] <Habbie> /boot/config-2.6.12-9-amd64-xeon:CONFIG_SMP=y
[04:48] <Habbie> hmm :)
[04:48] <cheemp> i'd rather have dupev libs and all the gcc tools and good IDEs, l.a.m.p. up and running, mono.. more important than office.org.. i think office stuff should be separate from os
[04:48] <nightswim> Habbie: o//
[04:48] <sn9> zepeuga: is it device hda?
[04:48] <jacquesmerde> hey kids
[04:48] <zepeuga> sn9, yes
[04:48] <Ng> Habbie: that could well be because HyperThreading is in Xeons and makes it worth enabling SMP
[04:48] <Habbie> Ng: likely, yes
[04:48] <Seveas> cheemp, then install just the base package and all dev tools you want
[04:48] <Seveas> it's easy as pie with apt
[04:48] <zooko> Anyone know which Uninterruptible Power Supply manufacturer is the most supportive of Free Software?
[04:49] <cheemp> seveas: it would be nice to have all that on CD
[04:49] <Hoxzer> how do I unselect things in x-server configure?
[04:49] <sn9> zepeuga: how old is your BIOS?
[04:49] <Seveas> cheemp, impossible to fit it all on one cd..
[04:49] <cheemp> if you remove office stuff :)
[04:49] <Seveas> and *the CD* is desktop oriented
[04:49] <jorgp> zooko: APC is nice
[04:49] <zepeuga> sn9, i dont know, but its a little old
[04:49] <Seveas> the distro not per se
[04:49] <zooko> jorgp: thanks.
[04:49] <cheemp> seveas that's very true
[04:50] <zepeuga> sn9, 5/6/7 years ive bought this computer, with this bios
[04:50] <jacquesmerde> what is the MINIMUM number of packages i need to install to be able to play mp3's? if i have to use "non-free" software, i want to use as little as possible
[04:50] <cheemp> seveas all the dev tools were easily found on the ubuntu apt repo... can't say that about yum on FC4
[04:50] <Seveas> cheemp, yum sucks
[04:50] <Seveas> FC4 sucks harder
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[04:51] <cheemp> fc4 has lots of dev packages but not the ones i need
[04:51] <Ng> jacquesmerde: the minimum would be gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:51] <cheemp> my opinion agrees hehe
[04:51] <cheemp> i nuked FC4 in favor of ubuntu
[04:51] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, you need no non-free stuff
[04:51] <Ng> jacquesmerde: with that in place you can play mp3s through anything gstreamer based, e.g. rhythmbox
[04:51] <sn9> zepeuga: zepeuga try booting installer disc with "rescue" and do update-grub
[04:51] <jacquesmerde> gstreamer0.8-mad is in marillat?
[04:51] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, install gstreamer0.8-mad and totem/rhythmbox
[04:51] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, no, Ubuntu
[04:51] <zooko> darn -- it is using virtual hosting so I can't get the packages by typing in the IP addr.
[04:51] <Seveas> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:51] <cheemp> jacquesmerde, your nick means "jack shit" in french :D
[04:51] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[04:51] <zepeuga> sn9, ok. ill try
[04:51] <zooko> Hm.
[04:51] <Ng> jacquesmerde: it's in universe
[04:51] <zepeuga> sn9, and if doesnt work ?
[04:51] <zooko> I'll dl them to my mac and scp them to my linux box.
[04:52] <jacquesmerde> then why isnt it in ubuntu by default?
[04:52] <buzi> hey, for some reason aMule says one of my ports is unreachable
[04:52] <Ng> jacquesmerde: patents :(
[04:52] <cheemp> jack shit, is that how your mommy called you when she saw your pretty face?
[04:52] <Seveas> cheemp, ...
[04:52] <windex> cheemp, bad.
[04:52] <jacquesmerde> Ng, yeah. that's what i meant by ""non-free""
[04:52] <cheemp> XD
[04:53] <sn9> zepeuga: the problem is your grub config. if update-grub doesn't work, you should ask a grub expert, maybe in #grub
[04:53] <B_166-ER-X> why that at the startup of ubuntu (breezy) i dont have the 'nice loading screen' that everyone talks about...but a 20 seconds  black screen instead ??
[04:53] <zepeuga> sn9, ok thx
[04:54] <zooko> So, um, is 2.6.12 the official kernel in breezy?
[04:54] <jorgp> is there a way to get rid of what looks like debug info on bootup?
[04:54] <sn9> zooko: i believe it's actually 2.6.12.8
[04:54] <daleth> 2.6.12-9-386
[04:54] <jorgp> [4295468.559000]  agpgart:
[04:54] <cheemp> how do i see my kernel # ?
[04:54] <daleth> According to my mint breezy system.
[04:54] <daleth> uname -r
[04:55] <mwe> I'm trying to compile a theme for kde, but during configure I get the error "Can't find X includes" I have x-dev and libx11-dev installed. What do I need to get?
[04:55] <cheemp> i'm on 2.6.9 386... would it be a good idea to recompile the kernel?
[04:55] <twibbler> could somebody tell me a complete list of the official repositories for Breezy ?.
[04:55] <zooko> Hm.  The package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8_2.6.12.4-10_amd64.deb is not on any of the mirrors.
[04:56] <sn9> !tell twibbler about repos
[04:56] <Dunston> how do i set documentroot in apache2? or were....
[04:56] <Bergcube> jorgp~  If it really is debug info you're not supposed to et rid of it, but rea it, understand it and fix the problem.  If you're reffering to the normal status messages they're "hidden behind" the bootup splash screen in 5.10.
[04:56] <sn9> zooko: do you have all repositories enabled?
[04:57] <Seveas> cheemp, recompiling kernels is so '90's
[04:57] <Seveas> cheemp, what kind of cpu do you have?
[04:57] <zooko> sn9: I am not using apt-get, but HTTP.
[04:57] <zooko> Because my Hoary live system isn't doing DNS lookups, so I can't use apt-get.
[04:57] <[David] K-64> Dunston:  /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[04:57] <prodigal> hiya ..
[04:57] <cheemp> P4 something
[04:57] <zooko> Well, I guess I could put IP addrs in the sources.list...
[04:57] <Pupeno> Hello.
[04:57] <Seveas> cheemp, install the linux-686 package
[04:58] <Seveas> then you'll always have the most recent Ubuntu kernel
[04:58] <zooko> But can I tell apt-get to install onto a different root?  I'll try that.  Because I don't need to install these packages into my live system of course (which exists only in-memory and on the live CD), but rather on my broken breezy system on this hard disk.
[04:58] <twibbler> sn9: thank you ...
[04:58] <zooko> How should I do this?
[04:58] <Seveas> 2.6.9 i quite old, are you running warty?
[04:58] <Bergcube> zooko~  Or edit your own hosts-file...............
[04:58] <Dunston> [David] k-64: when i write /home/dunston/www it still goes to /var/www...
[04:58] <cheemp> seveas: i want to do kernel development
[04:58] <prodigal> hey Im a real newbie to this whole linux thing .. so please bare with my stupid question ..
[04:58] <[David] K-64> you need to /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[04:58] <prodigal> I get this when I run apt-get update
[04:58] <Seveas> cheemp, even then the Ubuntu kernel framework rocks :)
[04:58] <prodigal> W: GPG error: http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[04:58] <Dunston> [David] k-64: i have done that
[04:58] <Seveas> prodigal, just wait an hour and retry
[04:59] <sn9> prodigal: known problem.
[04:59] <prodigal> seveas, sn9 .. ok, thank you
[04:59] <prodigal> :)
[04:59] <zaydana> i've installed the ati drivers... but i have no idea what packages i need to do opengl dev
[04:59] <prodigal> got to love Ubuntu though .. ciao :)
[04:59] <zaydana> installing the '-dev' package with the same name as the drivers doesn't put a GL.h anywhere
[05:00] <zaydana> anybody able to tell me what i need?
[05:00] <exosyst> question time guys. I detached a window from an application (Iagno) in gnome, it now won't reconnect to the parent windows and i can't do anything with it. is there a way of fixing it?
[05:00] <jacquesmerde> is anybody else's relationship with ubuntu completely love-hate?
[05:00] <[David] K-64> Dunston: not sure then.  should work
[05:00] <Dunston> [David] k-64: strange
[05:00] <federico_> jacquesmerde: only half of the time ;-)
[05:00] <Pupeno> I am tring to configure my wifi card with "Network settings", it works like a charm without WAP, but when I start to use WAP it is really hard to get it working, what does it support ? 64 bit, 128 bit ? hex, ascii ? what do you recomend ?
[05:00] <zooko> So, is there a recommended method of fixing an unbootable Ubuntu system?
[05:00] <zooko> I have the hoary live cd, and I have a breezy install that stops during bootup.
[05:01] <sn9> zaydana: libgl1-mesa-dev
[05:01] <zooko> And I have network connectivity from the Hoary live system, but no DNS lookups.
[05:01] <federico_> zooko: check the md5
[05:01] <Rytmis_> Anyone else experiencing total lockups (nothing works except the mouse pointer) when using the fglrx driver?
[05:01] <exosyst> i don't wanna repeat it! please help as i like that game. also, is there something i can use to give a graphical interface to 'dpkg -i' for when i download a .deb file. would like te iagno issue fixed as well!
[05:01] <cheemp> seveas: you do kernel dev for ubuntu?
[05:02] <zooko> federico: check the md5 of what?
[05:02] <federico_> the installation CD
[05:02] <zaydana> ah k
[05:02] <[David] K-64> Dunston: I'm assuming 000-default is an existing site, this system is dist-upgraded from breezy so the filename may be different
[05:03] <[David] K-64> to breezy
[05:03] <zooko> federico: check the md5 of my hoary live cd?  I doubt that this has much to do with my problem...
[05:03] <zooko> Rytmis: someone named L2-castle was asking the same question a minute ago.
[05:04] <federico_> zooko: check the breezy install CD. you say it locks on boot.
[05:04] <Dunston> [David] k-64: well, i have just installed breezy, today
[05:04] <Rytmis_> Well, that's a positive then... now to find someone with a solution! :D
[05:04] <exosyst> no ideas guys? how do i reattache the root menu to an application that it came off of?
[05:05] <bur[n] er> zooko: i assume your /etc/resolv.conf looks right?
[05:05] <federico_> zooko: neevrmind, i understand you already installed it, not that the breezy does not boot when installing
[05:05] <[David] K-64> Dunston: did you add a DocumentRoot ? there is an existing one there in the default enabled site which could be overriding if you added the line yourself
[05:06] <martii> re
[05:06] <Dunston> [David] k-64: I did just edit that line, so its should be this DocumentRoot = /home/dunston/www
[05:06] <zooko> federico: yeah, I dist-upgraded from hoary (with lots of breezy packages) to breezy last night.
[05:06] <martii> it looks like 5.10 is not as good as 5.04
[05:07] <zooko> It complains on startup about being unable to get an fd for the console.
[05:07] <levander> martii: why isn't 5.1 as good as 5.04?
[05:07] <[David] K-64> shouldn't be an =
[05:07] <zooko> Maybe I could just tweak some configuration to tell it to intiialize the console the way Hoary used ot do...
[05:07] <exosyst> is there a way graphically install by running a .deb file?? sudo dpkg -i can be a bit of a pain!
[05:07] <martii> levander: for language selector does not work as expected
[05:07] <martii> levander: and dual display setup
[05:07] <martii> levander: my ati card started to freeze my desktop
[05:08] <Dunston> [David] k-64: uh just 2 sek... there wasent a =
[05:08] <levander> martii: what about all those problems people were having with setting up X.org on breezy before it was released? Most of those problems are gone?
[05:08] <sn9> exosyst: graphical can be a bigger pain
[05:08] <johnsie2> any good webservers for/with ubuntu? (with cgi)
[05:08] <Revellion> Apache
[05:08] <Revellion> simply ;)
[05:08] <exosyst> whys that sn9?
[05:08] <johnsie2> is that easy to set up?
[05:08] <bur[n] er> exosyst: gksudo xterm -e dpkg -i blah.deb :)
[05:08] <brammator> martii cool. water-pump system on video? 2-)
[05:08] <|078902> hi lease how do I conect a ubuntu machine to theinternet trough another ubuntu machine which hs two nics cards
[05:08] <Albaraha> how do I enable/disable rc services?
[05:08] <martii> brammator: no problems with 5.04
[05:08] <martii> brammator: I think it's new ati driver problem
[05:09] <|078902> using 5.04 livecd
[05:09] <bur[n] er> |078902: look up ipchains
[05:09] <sn9> |078902: the one with two nics can run firestarter
[05:09] <bur[n] er> or firestarter :)
[05:09] <martii> brammator: it locks computer for good
[05:09] <|078902> bur[n] er, is there a ready script or something?
[05:09] <zooko> The requested URL /pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12/linux-restricted-modules-common_2.6.12.4-10_all.deb was not found on this server.
[05:09] <thirso> OHHHH GABRIELLE THE SUN IS SHINNING IN YOUR EYESS
[05:09] <zooko> ^-- I get this error or one like it from all mirrors.
[05:09] <bur[n] er> |078902: use firestarter... i'ts a gui ;)
[05:09] <martii> brammator: BTW its radeon 8500
[05:09] <exosyst> bur[n] er that gonna do me any good?
[05:10] <bur[n] er> exosyst: it launches an xterm to do the dpkg, but the prompt for password is a gui via gksudo
[05:10] <|078902> bur[n] er, thansk gonna try it
[05:10] <martii> levander: it looks like I will have to compile my ati driver again
[05:11] <martii> levander: or at least downgrade to one that came with 5.04
[05:11] <exosyst> bur[n] er: yeah didnt work. how can i add it to the add menu as that just fails!
[05:11] <sn9> martii: you can't compile fglrx. no source
[05:11] <martii> sn9: anyway I can use alien + rpm
[05:11] <sn9> martii: never use alien for anything
[05:11] <Dunston> [David] k-64: just fixed it a diffrent way... added a share in samba...
[05:12] <martii> sn9: so what do you recommend ?
[05:12] <martii> sn9: if my X dies after I even try to browse folders in nautilus
[05:12] <martii> sn9: switched from fglrx to ati now
[05:12] <martii> sn9: but have no 3D support
[05:12] <zepeuga> sn9, didnt worked :/
[05:12] <sn9> martii: get the linux-restricted-modules pkg for your kernel and xorg-driver-fglrx pkg
[05:13] <martii> sn9: got them already
[05:13] <sn9> martii: it's either those or the open source driver
[05:14] <bur[n] er> exosyst: gksudo xterm -e dpkg -i /path/to/packagename.deb didn't work?  I find that hard to believe
[05:14] <martii> sn9: the same installation but with radeon 9800 works ok
[05:14] <bur[n] er> exosyst: the truth is, there is no "gui" for it yet
[05:14] <bur[n] er> sounds like something synaptic should be adapted to do though
[05:14] <stricjux> hello ppl :)
[05:15] <sn9> martii: probably a bug in ati's fglrx
[05:15] <johnsie2> in linux do I still have 127.0.0.1 ?
[05:15] <exosyst> bur[n] er: yeah it does. i am gonna try with gnome-terminal instead.
[05:15] <martii> sn9: might be
[05:15] <zooko> johnsie2: yes
[05:15] <johnsie2> good
[05:15] <martii> sn9: I'll try to use 8.18 instead of 8.16 provided by ubuntu
[05:15] <martii> sn9: or get back to 8.12 that was provided by 5.04
[05:16] <sn9> martii: wait until 8.18 is in ubuntu
[05:16] <martii> sn9: when ?
[05:16] <Rytmis_> martii: what's your fglrx issue? :)
[05:16] <martii> sn9: could take some time
[05:16] <sn9> martii: should be rather soon
[05:16] <martii> Rytmis_: freezes my computer
[05:16] <martii> Rytmis_: dual display setup
[05:17] <martii> Rytmis_: X start ok
[05:17] <da_bon_bon> how do i make kde/gnome menu entries independant ?
[05:17] <Rytmis_> martii: does it work for you without the dual display? for me it hangs the minute I start up firefox :P
[05:17] <martii> Rytmis_: but after some firefox browsing
[05:17] <martii> Rytmis_: or nautilus
[05:17] <Rytmis_> heh
[05:17] <Rytmis_> I see a pattern formin
[05:17] <martii> Rytmis_: or some more activity
[05:17] <stricjux> i have a question: when I try to do a system shutdown in breezy it hangs on [restarting computer]  line... (the last text that is printed out in the console). I'm using a Dell Optiplex 620, with P4-830, em64t extensions, dualcore. I didnt have the same problem when i was running the amd64-smp kernel, (now i switched back to i686-smp since the 64bit support sucked).. Anyways - anyone knows what to do (sorr y for the long post)
[05:17] <martii> Rytmis_: it locks computer
[05:17] <bur[n] er> da_bon_bon: i think most work is trying to make them go the other way and make one 'base' menu for all WMs
[05:17] <martii> Rytmis_: but i did not check single display
[05:18] <Rytmis_> martii: Yeah, I was just checking whether my problem is the same as yours
[05:18] <johnsie2> anyone know a good pop/smtp server?
[05:18] <da_bon_bon> bur[n] er: err .. but i wnat to make them independant
[05:18] <Rytmis_> martii: does your mouse still work when the computer hangs?
[05:18] <martii> Rytmis_: yep
[05:18] <bur[n] er> da_bon_bon: good luck with that ;)
[05:18] <Rytmis_> martii: Ok, so I'm not the only one :)
[05:18] <martii> Rytmis_: I should try to login via ssh
[05:18] <da_bon_bon> bur[n] er: :P
[05:18] <martii> Rytmis_: and see if killing server would help
[05:19] <martii> Rytmis_: do U use dual view ?
[05:19] <stricjux> ne1?
[05:19] <martii> Rytmis_: my card is radeon 8500
[05:19] <Rytmis_> martii: No, single display
[05:19] <stricjux> :)
[05:19] <ubuntu_> hi room
[05:19] <Rytmis_> martii: same model even
[05:19] <martii> Rytmis_: maybe that's the case
[05:19] <Rytmis_> martii: 8500LE
[05:19] <zooko> Hm.
[05:19] <zooko> Anyone know where I can get the linux-restricted-module .deb's?
[05:19] <murrayc> Is anyone else having problems logging into the wiki?
[05:19] <martii> Rytmis_: anyway hoary worked fine for few months
[05:19] <bur[n] er> !tell zooko about repositories
[05:20] <zooko> Oh I see.
[05:20] <martii> Rytmis_: I don't want to get back to windows ;)
[05:20] <zooko> burner, thanks, but I wasn't clear -- I can't use apt-get right now.
[05:20] <Rytmis_> martii: Heh, well, the free ati driver works for me but performance-wise it's terrible :(
[05:20] <zooko> Anyway, I figured out why they were all 404.
[05:20] <cheemp> i love getting 600kB/s off the ubuntu apt repo
[05:20] <zooko> (vernum bump, mirror skew)
[05:20] <Rytmis_> martii: I'm not going back, I've been in linux-land for over a year now with no withdrawal ;)
[05:20] <axeus> Where are the Gnome application themes located? :S
[05:20] <bur[n] er> axeus: ~/.themes ~/.icons
[05:21] <axeus> Thank you. :)
[05:21] <Juhaz> and /usr/share/themes and icons for system-wide ones
[05:21] <bur[n] er> zooko: packages.ubuntu.com 213.133.98.126
[05:21] <martii> Rytmis_: just kidding :)
[05:21] <martii> Rytmis_: I use linux for 5+ years :)
[05:21] <ubuntunewbie2> I'm running ubuntu on a 300 mhz celeron CPU and it boots up so slowly It's almost 7 minutes now and it still says "Starting hardware abstraction layer" is this normal ? is there anyway to speed up the process ? or is has the computer frooze ?
[05:21] <hendrik> I have some problems with installing 80211g.zip a driver for wireless internet can somebody help me
[05:21] <martii> Rytmis_: but mainly on servers
[05:22] <bur[n] er> ubuntunewbie2: how much RAM do you haev?
[05:22] <sn9> ubuntunewbie2: it froze
[05:22] <martii> Rytmis_: ubuntu is the only distro that survived 3+ months on my both desktop and laptop
[05:22] <bur[n] er> hendrik: what kind of Wifi card?
[05:22] <zooko> burner: thanks, but since it uses virtual hosting I can't access it without DNS working, I think.
[05:22] <zooko> Anyway, I've got a workaround going, so don't worry about.
[05:22] <axeus> Doesn't the 2.6.* kernel require ess2 or something?
[05:22] <martii> Rytmis_: I just expected it to work as 5.04
[05:23] <bur[n] er> zooko: ok... if you need something... holla ;)  otherwise download it to your mac and use SMB ;)
[05:23] <martii> Rytmis_: infact I was amazed 5.04. Very good piece of work
[05:23] <goh> ubuntunewbie2: Have u tried lighter distros?
[05:23] <ian> hi
[05:23] <ubuntunewbie2> ram maybe about 64 mb
[05:23] <exosyst> anyone know how to reset window settings for an app? a menu 'for ianogo' has come off and won't reattach
[05:23] <ubuntunewbie2> Well not yet, this is my first time trying to work with LINUX stuff
[05:23] <zooko> burner: i'm dl'ing to my mac and using scp.  :-)
[05:23] <hendrik> i hve a acer aspire 1500 and 80211.zip is the networkdriver for this acer aspire driver
[05:23] <ian> Hi guys
[05:23] <ubuntunewbie2> does ubuntu have anything that is light good for old computers ?
[05:23] <axeus> ubuntunewbie2: A little off topic: Slack.. *cough*... :S ware might be a little more suited for that application.
[05:23] <ian> im using vmware
[05:23] <supadog> how much swap space should i allocate for linux with 512mb ram?
[05:24] <Paradoxx> any1 kno where i can find the torrent for breezy?
[05:24] <Rytmis_> martii: I'm liking Breezy a lot. This ati issue just bugs me :(
[05:24] <axeus> Oh ubuntunewbie: If you're a newbie: however... slackware might not be a good route.
[05:24] <axeus> supadog: 1 gig
[05:24] <reagleBRKLN> i just updated to breezy, and can't restore my samba stuff... ug any pointers to getting this stuff to work?
[05:24] <exosyst> anyone know how to reset window settings for an app? a menu 'for ianogo' has come off and won't reattach
[05:24] <ubuntunewbie2> you know something like BeatrIX Linux 2005.1. I'd like something from ubunt, cause of the good support and community
[05:24] <goh> ubuntunewbie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24890
[05:24] <axeus> supadog: I think it's a good practice to take your ram, and multiply it by two for swap.
[05:24] <supadog> axeus: 1gig! that's heaps...
[05:24] <martii> Rytmis_: me as well
[05:24] <brokensystems> axeus, really? I have 256MB ram and a 500MB swap
[05:24] <reagleBRKLN> [freemind] 
[05:24] <reagleBRKLN> path = /home/reagle/freemind
[05:24] <reagleBRKLN> guest ok = yes
[05:24] <martii> Rytmis_: but it makes me unable to work
[05:25] <brammator> Paradoxx http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[05:25] <sn9> hendrik: you need ndiswrapper
[05:25] <axeus> brokensystems: That's almost twice 256.
[05:25] <reagleBRKLN> then on win2k i try to access that share and it won't authenticate me!
[05:25] <hendrik> i have a acer aspire 1500 and 80211.zip is the networkdriver for this acer aspire driver
[05:25] <martii> Rytmis_: now I use ati driver instead of fglrx
[05:25] <martii> Rytmis_: :(
[05:25] <Paradoxx> ty brammator
[05:25] <brokensystems> axeus: lol oops :)
[05:25] <sn9> hendrik: you need ndiswrapper
[05:25] <axeus> brokensystems: :)
[05:25] <Rytmis_> martii: same here. Lucky I got a 21" screen :)
[05:25] <sandollar> hello folks ok i am having problems with my nvidia card running glxgears  it runs, but it runs on my cpu not my nvidia card wondering how i can fix that
[05:25] <ubuntunewbie2> i hope ubuntu comes up with something for old computers like BeatrIX or simply Mepis
[05:25] <goh> ubuntunewbie2: I think more ram may help, though I have no experience. Try to increase to 128mb?
[05:25] <Raskall-mob> I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. I have a server hosting web (apache server) and mail (postfix, amavisd-new, clamav) for 50+ people. should i dist-upgrade or should I just leave the server as is until it "expires"? (it's running hoary)
[05:26] <exosyst> Anyone that wanted to help but didnt actually know, it was simply a case of: rm .gnome2/iagno
[05:26] <exosyst> 
[05:26] <ubuntunewbie2> ok let me try that
[05:26] <Renski> Ive had ubuntu LiveCD running on 64MB
[05:26] <Renski> its slow...but it works
[05:26] <Revellion> damn apache logs can be interesting
[05:26] <ian> hi all
[05:26] <Rytmis_> isn't dist-upgrade supposed to be safe?
[05:26] <jbroome> Raskall-mob: yikes
[05:26] <goh> Any1 noes how I can create a partition in ubuntu?
[05:26] <Paradoxx> brammator: lol, i was actually jjust at that site, but i didn't look properly...
[05:26] <ian> i need help with ubuntu
[05:27] <cheemp> i wonder if ubuntu could be fit on a 16 meg embedded chip :)
[05:27] <N6REJ> morning all
[05:27] <Rytmis_> goh: fdisk springs to mind
[05:27] <larsson_> I have a very serius problem with my upgrade to Breezy from hoary. Please read my post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77774  , if you can help, please PM me.
[05:27] <ian> sum 1 gimme a hand
[05:27] <Rytmis_> goh: assuming you want to create the partition on unpartitioned space. If you're talking about resizing an existing one, then I don't kno.
[05:27] <Raskall-mob> Rytmis_: yes, but I haven't documented all I have done and some things might be compiled by hand or installed from other sources than apt
[05:27] <ubuntunewbie2> yeah something like an "Ubuntulite" or "Uldbuntu" for old computer systems, because I think there are people out there still running old systems especialy in 3rd world countries where a lot of second hand computers from more advanced nations are being passed.
[05:27] <sn9> hendrik: have you installed the ndiswrapper-utils pkg?
[05:28] <Rytmis_> Raskall-mob: phew. May the force be with you!
[05:28] <Hoxzer> does ubuntu has some easy way to install IVTV?
[05:28] <Hoxzer> compile is so hard
[05:28] <martii> sn9: any idea when new ati drivers will come
[05:28] <|078902> sn9, bur[n] er firestarter detects when client pings here (machine w/ firestarter) by showing activity
[05:28] <goh> I need to delete my windows partition and create new ext2 partitions
[05:28] <ian> can i setup an ftp with unbuntu
[05:28] <|078902> but the client pc still has no internet
[05:28] <miksu> hi. could someone please tell me how to create a script which contains just a few commands to run in a direct order?
[05:28] <sn9> martii: nope
[05:28] <zooko> Okay, now I need help.
[05:29] <Raskall-mob> Rytmis_: :) I think I have gotten everything via .debs or via apt, but if I break my mailserver a lot of people will be very unhappy.
[05:29] <Rytmis_> goh: right, fdisk can do that for you
[05:29] <ubuntunewbie2> I even have a pentium I here, 133 mhz running with 64 MB ram with a windows 95 OS. I am planning to have it switched to ubuntu. (If I can make it work)
[05:29] <martii> sn9: ok ill use ati driver so far and then
[05:29] <pingu> Need help: does anyone know what "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System" does?
[05:29] <zooko> I've acquired the .deb's, scp'ed them onto my Hoary-Live system, and now I'm doing dpkg -i --root=/mnt/slash
[05:29] <N6REJ> I need some help again.... I'm getting cron reports from the server, which is good, but there are a couple I don't understand how to fix.... Here is one of them....  NEW: --WARN-- [lin002i]  The process `ntpdate' is listening on socket 32777 (UDP) on every interface   .....   there is no man entry for ntpupdate and no docs in apt-cache.  Can anyone get me pointed in the right direction
[05:29] <nubbe> Easy Ubuntu and Automatix scripts,  Good or bad?
[05:29] <Rytmis_> goh: although if you're not commandline-savvy, it might be a bit tricky.
[05:29] <zooko> unforunately, to install hotplug requires that /etc/modprobe.d/isapnp exists...
[05:29] <martii> sn9: install new drivers if they will come
[05:29] <larsson_> I have a very serius problem with my upgrade to Breezy from hoary. Please read my post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77774  , if you can help, please PM me.
[05:29] <zepeuga> its possible to install lilo instead of grub ?
[05:29] <cheemp> an embedded kernel compiled for 586 1ghz 128mb machines whith a lean windows manager would run real fast
[05:29] <zooko> Maybe I can, um, force the other debs to ignore the fact that hotplug isn't completely installed.
[05:29] <Habbie> N6REJ: ntpdate is not ntpupdate
[05:29] <N6REJ> ubuntunewbie2: I have an ancient system that is running breezy well
[05:29] <goh> Hmmm, honestly I'm not... juz converted to linux a mth ago =)
[05:30] <apokryphos> larsson_: sounds like you didn't have ubuntu-desktop before you upgraded
[05:30] <N6REJ> Habbie: :( I need to get new glasses
[05:30] <apokryphos> larsson_: any upgrading guide should tell you that
[05:30] <goh> N6REJ: hw ancient?
[05:30] <Raskall-mob> zepeuga: don't se why it shouldn't be possible, but why do you want to do that?
[05:30] <Habbie> N6REJ: just copy/paste ;)
[05:30] <cheemp> a 4 meg linux designed for 100mhz chips running on a full on pc ..
[05:30] <sandollar> hello folks ok i am having problems with my nvidia card running glxgears  it runs, but it runs on my cpu not my nvidia card wondering how i can fix that
[05:30] <zooko> I sure didn't have ubuntu-desktop before I ran apt-get dist-upgraqde.
[05:30] <Rytmis_> Raskall-mob: Yeah, I'm watching until Hula comes out, then I'd need to migrate a similar setup (fifty-ish users) from a qmail-vpopmail-mysql-kablooey to Hula :)
[05:30] <axisys> how do setup a LAN printer? I have HP laserjet 8100 at work
[05:30] <N6REJ> goh: P2-350 on a Asus p3c2000 mb with 384 mb of ram.
[05:30] <zooko> Having used Debian for approximately a decade now, I've gotten use to the idea that I can just run "apt-get dist-upgrade".
[05:30] <zooko> And then manually fix all the breakage.  ;-)
[05:30] <Rytmis_> Raskall-mob: and I'm terrified already :D
[05:30] <miksu> does someone know ho to make a simple script?
[05:30] <brodmann> how do i turn on the dual monitor support?
[05:31] <Rytmis_> miksu: define simple
[05:31] <N6REJ> Goh: a Guilemot video card using nvidia chipset... agp 1x
[05:31] <cheemp> n6rej: how slow is that?
[05:31] <Raskall-mob> Rytmis_: :) Guess I'll wait too.. At least as long as I get security updates.
[05:31] <miksu> rytmis a few ifconfig and brctl statements to run in order top down
[05:31] <zooko> I'm sure I don't need isapnp support, so I'm going to try creating an empty file there to trick the hotplug deb into installing.
[05:31] <N6REJ> cheemp: actually its fast!  go to www.cogyfarm.com
[05:31] <goh> Hmmm... I think the ram matters a lot
[05:31] <zepeuga> Raskall-mob, i like to install it because i have an error 17 with grub and cant resolve it
[05:31] <larsson_> apokrythos: Please send me a PM, need to talk with you.
[05:31] <N6REJ> NOTE< I"m not using it as a desktop, but as a server.
[05:32] <goh> Sheezz
[05:32] <|078902> sn9, are you still there?
[05:32] <Rytmis_> miksu: well unless the script needs to actually contain any logic, I don't see any difficulties.
[05:32] <N6REJ> goh: yes absolutely!!!  unlike windows, Linux will use all the available ram it can.
[05:32] <Raskall-mob> zepeuga: and you are certain that lilo will fix it? I guess a "apt-get install lilo" is sufficent. then edit /etc/lilo.conf according to your setup and run lilo
[05:32] <miksu> rytmis i have made a script.d and it is displayed as type script source code. how to i enable it to be run?
[05:32] <zooko> Oh, isapnp was a dir and rm'ing it allowed hotplug.deb to install.
[05:32] <sn9> |078902: yes
[05:32] <pingu> why does my computer halts when it tries to "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System"?
[05:32] <apokryphos> larsson_: check the upgrading to breezy guide in the /topic
[05:33] <zooko> I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed in ubuntu that this upgrade didn't Just Work.
[05:33] <zooko> I've come to expect Ubuntu to make things Just Work more than Debian did.
[05:33] <verde1> hi
[05:33] <verde1> best backup tool?
[05:33] <Revellion> zooko: it worked fien for me :|
[05:33] <Revellion> *fine
[05:33] <Rytmis_> miksu: well, you'd either run it with a shell interpreter or set the executable flag for it and run it directly
[05:33] <Shin_Gouki> if i HAD to choose between ubuntu & gentoo , why or what are the advantages of ubuntu?
[05:33] <larsson_> apokryphos Ok, will do that.
[05:33] <cheemp> n6rej: you find ubuntu good as a server distro?
[05:33] <goh> NREJ: I was contemplating trying to use ubuntu on a P133 wif 128mb ram.... probly try that during my holz... the trusty workhorse is still as reliable =)
[05:33] <Revellion> Shin_Gouki: avoiding a shitload of compiling :|
[05:33] <axisys> anyone knows how to setup HP laserjet 8100?
[05:33] <|078902> sn9, did u suceed to have one ubuntu pc having internet trough another ubuntu pc?
[05:34] <N6REJ> goh: what usage?
[05:34] <zooko> Revellion: I think it is because I do more, um, "power user" type stuff, and the Ubuntu folks spend more of their time and energy testing the more straightforward usages...
[05:34] <axisys> I looked at wiki .. nothing about 8100
[05:34] <sn9> |078902: haven't tried yet
[05:34] <zooko> Whenever this happens I become afraid that I will have to switch back to Debian just so that I can be in a culture where people expect me to use the cmdline, edit config files, etc.
[05:34] <goh> N6REJ: non server, juz desktop
[05:34] <miksu> rytmis_ i have a script.d and it is displayed as bridge source code but i need to know how to make it an executable script file
[05:34] <|078902> hello folks, I have firestarter running and I have a laptop running ubuntu to conect internet trough here... how do I do
[05:34] <zooko> yay!  installed the kernel from breezy deb!  Now to reboot...
[05:34] <larsson_> apokryphos, what happens now then? it is already too late. What am i suppose to do now?
[05:34] <Rytmis_> miksu: chmod u+x script_filename
[05:34] <Revellion> zooko: still it worked fine except some minor incidents
 , thx!
[05:35] <miksu> rytmis_ thanks!
[05:35] <apokryphos> larsson_: what does sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop give you?
[05:35] <Revellion> zooko: most of which were solved by apt-get -f install :)
[05:35] <Revellion> then continue the dist-upgrade
[05:35] <Rytmis_> miksu: if the script contains the shebang line ("#!/bin/bash" or somesuch), it should work
[05:35] <zooko> :-)
[05:35] <Raskall-mob> hmm... i guess clamav isn't from ubuntu repos
[05:35] <N6REJ> cheemp: yes very.  I wish there was good webmin support for it.  but other then that it works great.  the installs/docs are not designed for a server, so you need to know a bit about what you are trying to accomplish to get it all to "work" together, but tis not a major challenge.  Scale of 1-10 comparing it to mandrake/RH  Its a 9
[05:35] <Raskall-mob> (in my server)
[05:35] <Rytmis_> miksu: just to clarify, what do you mean by "a script.d" ?
[05:36] <larsson_> apokryphos, it depends on some packages that "isnt installable"
[05:36] <N6REJ> goh: it will be slow because of the desktop.  Especially if you want to play games.  If you want it for office work it should be acceptable.
[05:36] <cheemp> N6REJ, and that's running on a 350mhz machine? impressive!
[05:36] <sambagirl>  c  cd
[05:36] <Hoxzer> how can I know my mysql password
[05:36] <N6REJ> cheemp: ty!
[05:36] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone here tried the combined dvd version of breezy?
[05:36] <Fanskapet> i386
[05:36] <feross> is the 64bit ubuntu up to parr with the i386 one?
[05:36] <Rytmis_> Hoxzer: have you set one up yet?
[05:36] <ubuntunewbie2> Yeah my old system runs breezy. But sometimes it hangs when it boots and it's soo slowwwwwwwww. Breezy is good but too heavy for 100 mhz to 350 mhz
[05:36] <apokryphos> larsson_: sudo apt-get -f install  ..gives?
[05:36] <Rytmis_> Hoxzer: if not, mysql should let you log in as root without a password, from localhost only.
[05:37] <N6REJ> cheemp: I've even got alot of security stuff going on, to make sure the server STAYS a server :)
[05:37] <Fanskapet> it just won't install on my fileserver
[05:37] <Hoxzer> Rytmis: where are you from?
[05:37] <Rytmis_> Hoxzer: Finland. How come?
[05:37] <axisys> need help with printing
[05:37] <Hoxzer> because im too
[05:37] <axisys> wiki didnt help
[05:37] <Rytmis_> Ah
[05:37] <cheemp> n6rej: i'm in the process of makig a 400mhz webserver with 64mb ram using an XScale cpu... i already compiled the embedded arm linux kernel and hello world for it
[05:38] <larsson_> apokryphos, "after unpacking 73mb of additional space will be used do you want to continiue"
[05:38] <N6REJ> ubuntunewbie2: again, its all about ram, and video capability.  Tune your distro.  Get rid of what you DON'T need, use a "lite" desktop, etc.
[05:38] <apokryphos> larsson_: yes
[05:38] <Rytmis_> Hoxzer: cool
[05:38] <axisys> hp laserjet 8100
[05:38] <feross> Hey guys, any opinions on - > If the 64bit ubuntu up to parr with the i386 one?
[05:38] <larsson_> apokryphos, ok, it is installing things now
[05:38] <cheemp> n6rej: what kind of security stuff?
[05:38] <zooko> Hooray!  Now I can boot!
[05:38] <N6REJ> cheemp: get more ram!  its not expensive anymore.
[05:38] <Habbie> feross: yes.
[05:38] <apokryphos> feross: runs beautifully
[05:38] <Raskall-mob> ubuntunewbie2: do a server install (minimal install) on slow systems and add the things you need manually. Ubuntu is very like debian and debian is one of the recommended distros for old, slow ystems
[05:38] <Rytmis_> Hmm, off for groceries now.
[05:38] <cheemp> n6rej: it's an embedded system.. 64mb is max
[05:38] <bur[n] er> good work zooko :)
[05:38] <Phini> hi
[05:39] <cheemp> n6rej: the linux install is 2.5 mb
[05:39] <looksaus> a few months ago, I added a gstreamer MIDI bounty to the Ubuntu wiki
[05:39] <N6REJ> cheemp: tripwire, john, etc.  They are in the apt-cache search  Also in the doc's on how to "secure" breezy
[05:39] <larsson_> apokryphos, i really apreciate this. Thank yous sir.
[05:39] <Hoxzer> Rytmis: well mysql password is required in mythtv install so how do I set it up?
[05:39] <looksaus> aigarius, you moved it to launchpad, which is nice
[05:39] <looksaus> but I would like to addd some info to it, and obviously I can't
[05:39] <apokryphos> larsson_: thank me only if it succeeds ;-). If not, we'll try a few other things
[05:39] <ubuntunewbie2> Raskall-mob: But i've got breezy installed already. Do you suggest I reinstall it again ? or do I just remove stuff ?
[05:39] <miksu> Rytmis_ i have changed the extension to .d which i have somewhere heard described as a script file. the properties now show it as script source code file
[05:39] <Phini> who can help with problems here?
[05:39] <bdfg> Hi
[05:39] <feross> Habbie apokryphos ->  ok thanks just wondering. actually I have it on an Asus Turion 64 and runs great but since It's my first ubuntu install maybe I was missing something from the i386 install.. great distro.
[05:40] <bdfg> could anyone help me in a problem with gcc
[05:40] <Rytmis_> miksu: oh. The extension isn't required.
[05:40] <bdfg> i have made apt-get install gcc
[05:40] <N6REJ> cheemp: ok, then its a minimalized kernel.  You should be fine!  just remember to minimize the functions you active.  Put in only what you NEED, not the whole package.
[05:40] <apokryphos> feross: not really; the amd64 support is pretty great
[05:40] <larsson_> apokryphos, alright. :) Well, it is installing and removing things now. I will talk to you when its done.
[05:40] <ompaul> bdfg, sudo apt-get build-essential
[05:40] <looksaus> I wonder where I should ask for permission
[05:40] <larsson_> apokryphos, OK, it is done. What now?
[05:40] <apokryphos> larsson_: no errors?
[05:40] <bdfg> but I think the standard libraries are not being installed, because an error like "error: stdio.h: No such file or directory" appears
[05:40] <miksu> Rytmis_ could you repeat that line, please
[05:40] <axisys> PRINTING IS WORKING
[05:41] <axisys> oops
[05:41] <apokryphos> ompaul: "install" :P
[05:41] <Rytmis_> Must go now, will be back in about 30
[05:41] <Raskall-mob> ubuntunewbie2: look for other desktop systems. look at xfce. lightweight and beautiful desktop
[05:41] <axisys> i can print now into hplj 8100
[05:41] <Raskall-mob> ubuntunewbie2: it should be in synaptic.
[05:42] <ubuntunewbie2> ok
[05:42] <cheemp> n6rej: the flash is 16mb max... applications and database will be loaded on a 1 gig mmc card.. other than that just needs the bluetooth driver
[05:42] <bdfg> ompaul, apt-get build-essential isn't  recognized as a valid command
[05:42] <ompaul> bdfg, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:42] <ubuntunewbie2> ok i'll try your suggestio thanks for the help
[05:42] <N6REJ> well, I'm off to see if I can get ntpdate working properly and finish fixing the cron reports... I'll be AFK
[05:42] <bdfg> oh, thx
[05:42] <Raskall-mob> ubuntunewbie2: gnome and kde will be slow on old computers no matter what distro you use
[05:42] <larsson_> apokryphos, It says: "Errors where encountered while processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libarkrpgc2_0.1.4b-6ubuntu4_i386.deb"
[05:42] <N6REJ> cheemp: sounds sweet!
[05:42] <larsson_> apokryphos, thats the only error it seems.
[05:42] <ompaul> apokryphos, thanks :)
[05:43] <bdfg> ok, that worked... lets see if the problem will be resolved :)
[05:43] <apokryphos> larsson_: you should always mentioned errors :)
[05:43] <N6REJ-AFK> off to OpenSSH terminal client
[05:43] <bdfg> thx a lot
[05:43] <cheemp> n6rej: it'll be more than sweet.... ;)
[05:43] <cheemp> l8r
[05:43] <ompaul> bdfg, sorry connection from brain to hand failed
[05:43] <larsson_> apokryphos, yes, sorry.
[05:43] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone tell me whether or not my session is logged out if I simply quit my VNC client without logging out?
[05:43] <Phini> Please help wih the following problem: I installed ubuntu 5.10 and went out of the room when installation was in progress. when i returned, the computer was off. i started it and ubuntu asked for the login data.
[05:43] <Phini> but i was not asked to enter username or password. ist there any default login data?
[05:43] <ubuntunewbie2> But I really wish ubuntu has something small and lite nothing compares to ubuntu when it comes to technical support and a great community
[05:43] <larsson_> apokryphos, what should i do now?
[05:43] <bdfg> thanks a lot... it worked
[05:44] <ompaul> ubuntunewbie2, why not look at xubuntu
[05:44] <|078902> what could be a good proxie server for ubuntu so i can share my internet connection through there?
[05:44] <looksaus> ping aigarius
[05:44] <apokryphos> larsson_: you're in quite a pickle. dpkg -l|grep ubuntu-des  ..gives?
[05:45] <ompaul> |078902, your nick is hard to type ... you could check out squid
[05:45] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone tell me whether or not my session is logged out if I simply quit my VNC client without logging out?
[05:45] <ompaul> Concord_Dawn, type w on the machine you had logged into
[05:45] <zooko> Thanks to all you #ubuntu folks for your help!  I'm back on track here.
[05:45] <the_hp> i have a problem with my mp3-player, when i copy music to it and disconnect it from the computer, then the music isn't there anymore,even when i connect it to the computer again its not there. would be nice if someone could help me with this!
[05:45] <Concord_Dawn> ompaul, pardon?
[05:46] <sn9> Phini: why not just reinstall?
[05:46] <Concord_Dawn> I'm using VNC to this Ubuntu machine.
[05:46] <ompaul> Concord_Dawn, type >w< or >last< on the machine you are quitting from (login using ssh to do this :))
[05:46] <Phini> sn9: i think i'll do that now... but it is a strange bug
[05:46] <feross> Concord_Dawn: screen usually works better but no VNC will not close your programs so it should stay connected
[05:46] <Albaraha> what app can I use to enable/disable bootup services?
[05:46] <zooko> Whoa.  /dev/null permission denied.
[05:47] <sandollar> hello folks ok i am having problems with my nvidia card running glxgears  it runs, but it runs on my cpu not my nvidia card wondering how i can fix that
[05:47] <zooko> sandollar: a lot of people are reporting the same sorts of problems, both with nvidia and with ati.  I don't know.
[05:47] <Concord_Dawn> hmmm.
[05:47] <Concord_Dawn> I'm going to quit and then reconnect.
[05:47] <zooko> Personally I don't use 3d, so I don't have so many problems...  ;-)
[05:47] <Concord_Dawn> someone tell me if this connection dies.
[05:47] <zooko> Hm.  What package should I reinstall to fix /dev/null perms.  I know!  makedev.
[05:48] <sandollar> zooko: great!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:48] <feross> Concord_Dawn: the connection died .. ohh oops :P
[05:48] <GreenFireD> Hello, I have problems with Azureus, it writes me that everything is ok, but it isn't downloading nothing(any file)
[05:48] <Raskall-mob> agh.. it annoys me that the clam* .debs dont find their way into ubuntu hoary.
[05:48] <sn9> GreenFireD: the circle is green?
[05:48] <the_hp> is there a german ubuntu guide? i'm new to ubuntu and want to earn some knowledge
[05:48] <GreenFireD> red
[05:49] <sn9> GreenFireD: then it's not saying it's ok
[05:49] <zooko> How do I tell apt-get to install a package even if I currnetly have the newest version?
[05:49] <the_hp> how can i install azureus? i instantly get problems with installing java
[05:49] <Alex_BO> HELLO!where can i find a list of extra-repositories?
[05:49] <GreenFireD> I know that there are seeders, but it's writing that seeders is 0
[05:49] <unperson> In my bios, there's an option to enable or disable power management.  If I want the power management features to work in Ubuntu, should this be enabled or not?
[05:49] <GreenFireD> what it is mean?
[05:50] <|078902> ompaul, thanks
[05:50] <StR> hi all!
[05:50] <zooko> unperson I think enabled.
[05:50] <sn9> GreenFireD: nobody is seeding that torrent. try again later
[05:50] <larsson_> apokryphos, i dont think i can PM to you, because im not registred
[05:50] <feross> unperson: probably
[05:50] <Phini> the_hp : http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/
[05:50] <StR> where can I read about having php4 AND php5 together?
[05:50] <apokryphos> larsson_: /msg nickserv register password
[05:50] <|078902> is it possible to have your whole conection use a proxie
[05:50] <zooko> I guess the answer to my question of how to force apt-get to reinstall is to find the .deb in /var/cache/apt and use dpkg on it.
[05:50] <unperson> Of course, I'd THINK so, but I wasn' sure if there might be some issue of that being a windows-only thing and it might actually interfere with Linux power management.
[05:50] <GreenFireD> sn9, do you torrent that certain has seeders/
[05:51] <GreenFireD> sn9, do you torrent that certain has seeders?
[05:51] <zooko> Yep, that fixed the /dev/null perms.
[05:51] <GreenFireD> sn9, do you have torrent that certain has seeders?
[05:51] <sn9> unperson: are you on a laptop?
[05:51] <sn9> GreenFireD: just for testing?
[05:51] <GreenFireD> yes
[05:51] <looksaus> I need extra permissions in Launchpad
[05:51] <the_hp> big thx to phini
[05:51] <zooko> x-terminal-emulator not found.  I know how to make it be a symlink to xterm, but is there a "cleaner" solution in Ubuntu Breezy?
[05:52] <looksaus> for adding info to https://launchpad.net/bounties/gstreamer-midi
[05:52] <GreenFireD> sn9, yes
[05:52] <looksaus> this is a bounty I started a few months ago in the wiki
[05:52] <unperson> Alex_BO:  Did you check out http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories?  It's for 5.4, but I'd assume that'd give the the idea for the 5.10 repositories.
[05:52] <looksaus> but someone moved it to launchpad
[05:52] <Xenguy> I installed xfce4-battery-plugin but I do not see any battery monitor on the panel...
[05:52] <Xenguy> Does anyone know how this utility works/is configured? (No real documentation came with the install, not even a man page)
[05:52] <feross> unperson: if it just says 'Turn on Power Management' I would go ahead and turn it on.  I have a lappy and if I remember correctly it's also turned on. works fine in doze and nix.
[05:52] <sn9> GreenFireD: i'd have to look, but just try various ones
[05:52] <Alex_BO> unperson, yes i'm reading it
[05:53] <zooko> oh, it's because my x-terminal-emulator is symlink to lxterm...
[05:53] <zooko> ... which appears to no longer exist..  Hm.
[05:53] <zooko> Well, I wanted to try rxvt anyway.
[05:53] <unperson> sn9:  Eh, no, not on the machine I'm messing with currently, though I also have a laptop running ubuntu.
[05:53] <feross> unperson: the only thing that I try to stay awy from is setting the sleep hybernation screen off stuff in the bios and do it through the OS that way there isn't two places to check if something isn't working the way you like.
[05:53] <sn9> !tell unperson about ubuntuguide
[05:54] <GreenFireD> sn9, I am trying but every file has the same problem
[05:54] <sn9> unperson: on non-laptops, disable power mgmt in bios
[05:54] <the_hp> can anybody tell me how to install azureus? i tried with apt-get but it didnt worked
[05:54] <zooko> rxvt: can't open pseudo-tty\maborting
[05:54] <zooko> Hm.
[05:54] <GreenFireD> http://www.filerush.com/ this torrents I know that they have seeders
[05:54] <sn9> the_hp: download it from sourceforge
[05:54] <zooko> the_hp: maybe try bittorrent instead
[05:55] <zooko> disclaimer: I have a personal affiliation with bittorrent, so I'm biased.
[05:55] <mustard5> the_hp, have you got hoary-extras enabled?
[05:55] <zooko> But Azureus is in Java and BitTorrent is in Python, so it'll be easier to install BitTorrent on Ubuntu.
[05:55] <unperson> sn9:  Why the difference between laptops and non-laptops?
[05:55] <Ankka> what does a force install really mean and how is it done?
[05:56] <sn9> unperson: laptops have extra stuff in bios
[05:57] <phr0zenkore> hi all
[05:57] <unperson> Does linux ever spin down the HDs when not in use?
[05:57] <mustard5> hey phr0zenkore
[05:57] <phr0zenkore> i'm switching over to ubuntu, gonna take a look at it.
[05:57] <phr0zenkore> so, what's so good about ubuntu?
[05:57] <mustard5> its free
[05:57] <sn9> unperson: it can, but not recommended
[05:57] <mustard5> :)
[05:57] <phr0zenkore> debian is free too :P
[05:57] <zooko> Oh, all of my /dev/pty* also have bad permissions.
[05:58] <mustard5> ah ok....well its debian style distribution so it should be familiar to you
[05:58] <ngmw> notice my ubuntu does spin down the hd
[05:58] <phr0zenkore> ahh..
[05:58] <phr0zenkore> cool ^^
[05:58] <Ankka> what does a force install really mean and how is it done?
[05:58] <miksu> hi Ankka
[05:58] <Revellion> PXE booted GeeXboX \o/
[05:58] <feross> unperson yeah, also there is turnnig on the fan and speed clocking the CPU in case it get's too hot. Usuallly regular towers you don't have to worry about that. Fan's always on.
[05:58] <phr0zenkore> but this uses GUI for configs, while still not bloated and the commandline is still available, not like Fedora or SuSe, am i right? =)
[05:59] <Ankka> hi miksu
[05:59] <miksu> Ankka you are from suomi too?
[05:59] <mustard5> phr0zenkore, its the only distro I have tried
[05:59] <phr0zenkore> well it's downloading rite now.
[05:59] <phr0zenkore> ahh..
[05:59] <phr0zenkore> i've tried many
[05:59] <mustard5> first and last I would think :D
[05:59] <phr0zenkore> Redhat, Fedora, Gentoo, Debian
[05:59] <mustard5> I'm happy
[05:59] <phr0zenkore> and now.. ubuntu :P
[06:00] <phr0zenkore> i'm just curious
[06:00] <phr0zenkore> XD
[06:00] <unperson> Ok, so if I want it to be able to spin down HDs, must I enable power management in the BIOS?
[06:00] <Ankka> miksu, yes indeed
[06:00] <mustard5> I'm browsing, chatting on IRC, IM working, DVD's playing, MP3's playing...don't need much more :D
[06:00] <StR> help with beezy? where can I read about having php4 AND php5 together?
[06:00] <bur[n] er> anyone know of any company that does mailing list hosting?
[06:00] <GreenFireD> I am trying to download 3 files and they all have 0 seeders, how it can be?
[06:00] <sn9> phr0zenkore: MEPIS is another good one
[06:00] <Revellion> StR: why would you need both?
[06:01] <StR> Revellion: because I have a proyect that does not work with php5
[06:01] <sn9> unperson: not necessary
[06:01] <brodmann_> is there any support for setting up dual monitors?
[06:01] <Revellion> StR: then fix the problem?
[06:01] <miksu> Ankka you have been using it a lot?
[06:01] <zooko> hm.  I'd've thought that installing makedev would fix perms on /dev/pty*...
[06:01] <Revellion> StR: it's usually a minor fix needed
[06:01] <ngmw> want to do something on voice command ....any ideas anyone???
[06:01] <Revellion> StR: where does PHP5 shit itself on the "project" ?
[06:01] <phr0zenkore> sn9: MEPIS?
[06:02] <sn9> phr0zenkore: yes
[06:02] <zooko> Hm.  I could just chmod the /dev/ptys, but I'm worried.  Why is this screwed up?
[06:02] <majic_user> Looking for some help with sound on a Gateway 7330 notebook using 5.1
[06:02] <Ankka> miksu: using what? and is there a finnish ubuntu channel?
[06:02] <sn9> !fi
[06:02] <spola> right when i start gnome and plug in my usb stick, it's "auto-mounted" on /media/usbstick (or whatever it is). but since i use breezy i started using xfce (for its l33t middle click window) and my usb stick doesnt automount anymore. whats the (gone
[06:02] <ubotu> [fi]  "Suomalaiset: Suomea puhutaan kanavalla #ubuntu-fi"
[06:03] <spola> g*** CONT: gnome program that mounts these usb sticks?
[06:03] <zooko> Hrm...
[06:03] <Ankka> thanks sn9
[06:03] <miksu> Ankka using ubuntu...well anyway, just doing some chit chat
[06:03] <zooko> Well, I think I'll try compiling my own kernel and rebooting.  :-)  I wanted to do that anyway...
[06:04] <GreenFireD> I am trying to download 3 files through Azureus and they all have 0 seeders, but through Bittorrent I can download them
[06:04] <Ankka> miksu ok
[06:05] <sn9> GreenFireD: i've never had that problem
[06:05] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: run the first-run wizard and verify that the appropriate ports are being forwarded
[06:05] <zooko> Hm..  I'll bet that ubuntu kernel 2.6.12 won't compile properly with gcc 4.0.2.  ...
[06:05] <pepsi> what package do i want if i want to connect to my ubuntu desktop remotely? graphically
[06:06] <Revellion> pepsi: NX if you want a Terminal server like functionality, for connecting to an already running X11 desktop...x11vnc or vinoserver
[06:06] <mustard5> pepsi, ssh
[06:06] <Revellion> vinoserver being available by default in Gnome
[06:06] <Revellion> and also...
[06:06] <Revellion> SSH >>>> *GUI* :)
[06:06] <GreenFireD> maybe I installed Azureus in wrong way
[06:06] <linuxamoeba21> where might one find the source for gnome-panel?
[06:06] <mustard5> pepsi, you want a gui?
[06:07] <sn9> linuxamoeba21: type: apt-get source gnome-panel
[06:07] <pepsi> mustard5, yes
[06:07] <linuxamoeba21> excellent
[06:07] <mustard5> pepsi, ah k soz :)
[06:07] <pepsi> vino is installed, how do i run it?
[06:08] <javanick> how do i install an mp3 codec?
[06:08] <Coz> Hello All
[06:08] <Coz> anyone here know of a good desktop analog clock for ubutnu?
[06:08] <linuxamoeba21> sn9, it's not showing up as installed in synaptic...?
[06:08] <sn9> javanick: the pkg name is gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:09] <javanick> ok... how do i get it? i'm a newbie
[06:09] <mustard5> javanick, xmms will play mp3s
[06:09] <GreenFireD> apokryphos, I did it..
[06:09] <sn9> linuxamoeba21: well, whatever the pkg name is
[06:09] <unu> hello
[06:09] <mustard5> hi unu
[06:09] <sn9> javanick: use synaptic
[06:09] <zooko> Hm...  So shall I try to install the Ubuntu default linux version -- 2.6.12-whatever from the source deb -- with the Ubuntu default gcc version -- 4.0.2-prerelease?
[06:09] <zooko> Probably not.
[06:09] <unu> xdm doesn't start because of xtt, but apt-file doesn't show anything relevant
[06:10] <GreenFireD> apokryphos, How I SHOULD to install Azureus(the ubuntuguide way isn't working)
[06:10] <zooko> Maybe instead I should follow the hint: "Recommends: gcc-3.4".
[06:10] <TMM> hey all!
[06:10] <mustard5> you used synaptic before javanick ?
[06:10] <javanick> no...
[06:10] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: ignore the ubuntuguide; it's a pile of trash :)
[06:10] <unu> i've removed xserver-xorg and x-window-system-ocre metapackages
[06:10] <sn9> GreenFireD: download it from sourceforge
[06:10] <javanick> trying to find it right now...
[06:10] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: grab azureus from their site
[06:10] <secretaria> to
[06:10] <mustard5> Its in your System>>Administration menu
[06:10] <secretaria> hello
[06:10] <mustard5> Synaptic Package Manager
[06:10] <linuxamoeba21> sn9, apt-get *appeared* to work, and that should be the right pkg name... according to launchpad, " This source package is not published in The Breezy Badger Release." could that be the prob?
[06:10] <secretaria> pless
[06:10] <brodmann_> anyone got support on dual monitors?
[06:10] <javanick> thanks...
[06:10] <secretaria> help
[06:10] <sn9> linuxamoeba21: oh
[06:11] <mustard5> !tell javanick about synaptic
[06:11] <GreenFireD> apokryphos, OK i did it, what next?
[06:11] <secretaria> spanhis
[06:11] <mustard5> javanick, look for pm from ubotu
[06:11] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: use it =)
[06:11] <unu> !tell unu about xtt
[06:11] <sn9> !tell secretaria about es
[06:11] <crov> !tell crov about php4
[06:11] <secretaria> alguien espaol
[06:11] <secretaria> help
[06:11] <crov> :(
[06:11] <GreenFireD> just to do ./azureus ?
[06:11] <secretaria> pless
[06:11] <sn9> GreenFireD: yes
[06:11] <apokryphos> GreenFireD: yup
[06:12] <unu> has anyone been having problems with x starting because of xtt?
[06:12] <unu> after an upgrade from hoary
[06:12] <GreenFireD> that is what i did :(((
[06:12] <linuxamoeba21> so no easy ways to get gnome-panel source?
[06:12] <Seveas> linuxamoeba21, apt-get source gnome-panel
[06:12] <secretaria> fegeydushuehai
[06:12] <linuxamoeba21> did that
[06:12] <Seveas> !es
[06:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:12] <zooko> GreenFireD, apokryphos: why do you guys prefer Azureus to BitTorrent?
[06:12] <linuxamoeba21> Seveas, i did that and it appeared to work, but didnt show up installed in synaptic. launchpad says, " This source package is not published in The Breezy Badger Release."
[06:12] <apokryphos> zooko: never said I did, though I of course do. More options. Still, azureus isn't my bt client of choice
[06:13] <Seveas> linuxamoeba21, then you need a deb-src list
[06:13] <secretaria> panel why said idid you
[06:13] <GreenFireD> zooko, more options, easyer, more beautiful
[06:13] <Seveas> and apt-get source dows *nothing* with synaptic
[06:13] <unu> i'm trying to find out to which package xtt belongs - apt-file couldn't help me
[06:13] <zooko> apokryphos: what's your favorite BT client?
[06:13] <unu> should i ask in xorg?
[06:13] <Seveas> apt-get source downloads the source to the current folder
[06:13] <javanick> kdemultimediapackage? is that right?
[06:13] <Seveas> you should NOT use sudo when using apt-get source
[06:13] <zooko> GreenFireD: thanks for telling me.  What is your favorite option that BT doesn't have?
[06:13] <apokryphos> zooko: ktorrent; even though it is a little embryonic in some ways still :P
[06:13] <linuxamoeba21> Seveas, i have source and binary repos for breezy
[06:13] <ds[de] > Seveas: why not?
[06:13] <TMM> hey all, it looks like pretty much all the devices on my laptop are attached to IRQ 10... that's not really good I think
[06:13] <Seveas> ds[de] , because it downloads to the current dir :)
[06:14] <TMM> I think it is preventing my irda to work
[06:14] <TMM> anyone got any idea what I can do about it?
[06:14] <crov> Someone installed with apache2 php4 (on brezzy)
[06:14] <Habbie> TMM: irc sharing doesn't break anything.. it just can be bad for performance
[06:14] <Seveas> crov, /me has
[06:14] <chimaera> hi. hidd is not started by default, any ideas why?
[06:14] <sn9> TMM: irda is usually 3 or 4
[06:14] <linuxamoeba21> TMM you should be able to control internal device IRQs with the cmos
[06:14] <Rytmis_> Hoxzer: did you get the mysql password issue settled already?
[06:14] <TMM> I'm getting errors 'too much work for IRQ 10'
[06:14] <ds[de] > Seveas: so does apt-get source work without sudo ?
[06:14] <Seveas> ds[de] , yes
[06:14] <ds[de] > Seveas ah ok tnx
[06:15] <crov> Seveas: do i need to enable backports in source.lst as i cant find php4 package on CLEAN brezzy install
[06:15] <Phr0zenKore> back.
[06:15] <GreenFireD> in Azureus is just more easy to browse. I also used Azureus in XP so I usual
[06:15] <chimaera> apt-get source works as user anyway..
[06:15] <Hoxzer> Rytmis: I dont have disro in my box right now
[06:15] <MrGreen> Are ther problems using ubuntu on amd64?
[06:15] <Seveas> !info libapache2-mod-php4 breezy
[06:15] <apokryphos> MrGreen: nope
[06:15] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 1515 kB, Installed size: 3092 kB
[06:15] <zooko> MrGreen: nope.  :-)
[06:15] <MrGreen> cool
[06:15] <Seveas> crov, it's in universe
[06:15] <LarstiQ> MrGreen: in general, no
[06:15] <Hoxzer> just tried to do it with server install with guide but I failed
[06:15] <mustard5> crov there are no backports for breezy
[06:15] <MrGreen> Do you any issue at all ..?
[06:15] <Seveas> no need for any crap repos
[06:15] <Hoxzer> :D
[06:15] <ds[de] > chimaera but it would still download the source package into the current dir right?
[06:15] <linuxamoeba21> MrGreen, extreme success
[06:15] <zooko> There are problems using proprietary 32-bit software on amd64, but those problems can be solved as easily on Ubuntu-64 as on any alternative.
[06:15] <stjepan> "If anything, Ubuntu's popularity is a net negative for Debian," Murdoch told internetnews.com. "It's diverged so far from Sarge that packages built for Ubuntu often don't work on Sarge. And given the momentum behind Ubuntu, more and more packages are being built like this. The result is a potential compatibility nightmare."
[06:15] <stjepan> from http://www.asiaosc.org/article_306.html   What do you think of that?
[06:15] <Hoxzer> just pasted wrong line and everything was messed up
[06:15] <chimaera> ds[de] : jepp..
[06:15] <mustard5> crov you can use hoary-extras though
[06:15] <GreenFireD> look, every time there are 0 seeders and peers, and for one sec I see 2 peers and they dissapear
[06:16] <Seveas> stjepan, pure bullshit
[06:16] <GreenFireD> look, every time there are 0 seeders and peers, and for one sec I see 2 peers and they dissappear
[06:16] <mustard5> crov you sure you got all sources enabled?
[06:16] <MrGreen> No hwclock or mouse problems?
[06:16] <Habbie> GreenFire: those peers are probably people who have nothing too
[06:16] <Seveas> stjepan, wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[06:16] <zooko> I love respectful, cooperative competition among open source projects.
[06:16] <Seveas> read that
[06:16] <stjepan> Seveas: why bullshit?
[06:16] <crov> mustard5,  nop i didnt edit the source.lst (clean install all clean) heh, so to uncomment all source in source.lst_
[06:16] <linuxamoeba21> is there anywhere to get (easily) package source not published in the breezy release
[06:17] <mustard5> crov, fixed now?
[06:17] <zooko> where in the linux source is the "help text" that accompanies the configuration options?
[06:17] <ds[de] > chimaera so what's the difference between typing sudo apt-get source and just apt-get source if it's downloaded in the current dir anyway?
[06:17] <Seveas> stjepan, murdoch is a FUD spreading fool imho - he creates more incompatibility with his DCC core crapola
[06:17] <MrGreen> zooko  hwclock or mouse problems?
[06:17] <GreenFireD> Habbie, but through Bittorrent I downloaded the same files, through Azureus I am seeing 0 seeders
[06:17] <zooko> MrGreen: I've sort of noticed that ubuntu says it can't set my hwclock, but i don't care.
[06:17] <Seveas> note: murdoch isn't a fool, the guy is quite smart - but he has his issues like anyone has
[06:17] <LarstiQ> zooko: oh yes, I almost forgot that
[06:17] <stjepan>  Bug #1 in Ubuntu: "Microsoft has a majority market share"   -   https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[06:17] <MrGreen> I have had problems with psmouse
[06:18] <mustard5> crov you can check against a standard breezy sources.list here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[06:18] <LarstiQ> stjepan: yes, we've all read the article :)
[06:18] <apokryphos> mind you, that article is 6 months old
[06:18] <zooko> Grumble.  My /dev/ptys are screwed up...
[06:18] <MrGreen> Woah!! its busy here
[06:18] <zooko> I guess I'll just go ahead and chmod them u+rw...
[06:18] <stjepan> LarstiQ: really? :)
[06:18] <apokryphos> MrGreen: you shoulda been here on release day :P
[06:18] <MrGreen> lol
[06:18] <stjepan> are Debian and Ubuntu packages compatible??
[06:18] <linuxamoeba21> that was fun
[06:18] <MrGreen> why what happened?
[06:18] <apokryphos> stjepan: often: no.
[06:19] <zooko> Huh, that didn't fix it.
[06:19] <crov> mustard5,  let me test that.
[06:19] <stjepan> apokryphos: :((( that's very bad. but WHY?
[06:19] <mustard5> crov you can also see all the packages availabe here... http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:19] <MrGreen> does anyone know if live ubuntu 64 version works?
[06:19] <apokryphos> stjepan: read the wiki page provided above
[06:19] <zooko> oh, yes it did.
[06:19] <zooko> MrGreen: yes, it does.
[06:19] <MrGreen> thanks
[06:19] <MrGreen> ;-)
[06:20] <MrGreen> I'm off I do not like crowds... thanks for your help 8)
[06:20] <linuxamoeba21> is there anywhere to get (easily) package source not published in the breezy release? please?
[06:20] <stjepan> apokryphos: tnx :)
[06:21] <chimaera> ds[de] : there is none.. maybe the permission for the file. it'S like with any command.
[06:21] <zooko> linuxamoeba: what software are you looking for?
[06:21] <ubuntu> walcie sie na ryj zjeby
[06:21] <ds[de] > chimaere, I see, thanks
[06:21] <zooko> You can try a debian package -- despite what folks here just said -- if you are careful not to accidentally install a conflicting library or core package.
[06:21] <linuxamoeba21> zooko, the source package for gnome-panel wasn't published in breezy
[06:21] <ubuntu> ktremu zajeba
[06:22] <zooko> Personally I just compile from source, using the excellent GNU stow tool to keep the resulting packages manageable so that they can be uninstlled, etc.
[06:22] <crov> mustard5,  i have enable universum repository and now i have php4 packages :), but why it isnt safe i mean why it isnt in main repository...
[06:22] <stjepan> hehe gentoo packages are the most compatible :P
[06:22] <mustard5> crov, I have no idea either :)
[06:22] <zooko> I think it is a violation of ubuntu policy if you can't get the src for a .deb...
[06:22] <ubuntu> wypierdalac z tego chata zjeby
[06:22] <linuxamoeba21> according to launchpad, " This source package is not published in The Breezy Badger Release."
[06:22] <frank23> zooko: stow? is it good? I use checkinstall
[06:22] <linuxamoeba21> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/gnome-panel/
[06:22] <sn9> linuxamoeba21: i looked and the source is there
[06:22] <ubuntu> co zaden tu kurwa jezyka nie zna
[06:23] <linuxamoeba21> linkage?
[06:23] <zooko> frank23: GNU stow is beautiful, because it follows KEEP IT SIMPLE, STUPID!
[06:23] <sn9> !pl
[06:23] <ubotu> sn9: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:23] <ubuntu> kurwa same mloty
[06:23] <stjepan> I have Debian Sarge DVD and Ubuntu Hoary. May I use Debian packages in Ubuntu???
[06:23] <mustard5> linuxamoeba21, check your sources.list
[06:23] <frank23> stjepan: no
[06:23] <N6REJ-AFK> is there anything I need to do once I install ntpdate to get it to only function on one ip?
[06:23] <zooko> Using GNU stow, you can install multiple alternative versions of the same package, remove old packages, upgrade, etc. etc. ,but without using any weird new package format or any weird tool.  Instead, you just use mkdir and ln and rm.  And GNU stow which is a perl script that automates it for you.
[06:24] <mustard5> linukso,  you can check against a standard breezy sources.list here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[06:24] <linuxamoeba21> mustard5, i have deb-src repos
[06:24] <zooko> Everyone should use GNU stow for all open source softare that they compile and install locally.
[06:24] <mustard5> linukso, wrong person soz :)
[06:24] <zooko> GNU stow is 100% compatible with deb, apt, rpm, python eggs, autopackage, and any other packaging tools that you can think of.
[06:24] <zooko> This ends today's public service announcement about the beautifulness of GNU stow.
[06:24] <stjepan> frank23: tnx :)
[06:24] <javanick> how do i install a rar filter?
[06:25] <Mario> hello how is the name of the german ubuntu channel??
[06:25] <ogra> Mario, #ubuntu-de
[06:25] <Mario> thanks ogra
[06:25] <sn9> javanick: pkg name: unrar-nonfree
[06:26] <zooko> Hm.  I don't like the font of rxvt.
[06:26] <javanick> ok...
[06:26] <zooko> Maybe I just need to install more/different xfonts packages?
[06:26] <zooko> Font configuration is such a mystery to me...
[06:26] <javanick> sn9: not finding it...
[06:26] <javanick> where to start?
[06:27] <sn9> javanick: have you enabled all repositories?
[06:27] <javanick> ehhh.... what?
[06:27] <mustard5> :)
[06:27] <sn9> !tell javanick about repos
[06:27] <linuxamoeba21> sn9, where did you find the gnome-panel source?
[06:28] <javanick> i've got a swedish ubuntu version...
[06:28] <Supanova> sorry upfront for this basic question: is there a good site/howto to set up apache2/php/mysql on 5.10. I've just moved from SuSE and need to get a server running ASAP.
[06:28] <mustard5> what you trying to install javanick ?
[06:28] <TiMiDo> Supanova; www.apache.org
[06:28] <javanick> a rar filter
[06:28] <ubuntu> czesc zjeby
[06:28] <TiMiDo> ubuntu; english please
[06:28] <addhen> i need help with my evolution
[06:29] <ubuntu> fuck you
[06:29] <TiMiDo> addhen; what's wrong with evolution
[06:29] <TiMiDo> ubuntu; not smart to say that,
[06:29] <TiMiDo> !ops
[06:29] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[06:29] <Supanova> hmmm thanks TiMiDo. but that pretty much is a given.
[06:29] <tony_> hi all!
[06:29] <TiMiDo> hi tony_
[06:29] <addhen> anytime i try to delete my previouse message a line is striked through the subject
[06:29] <TiMiDo> Supanova; that's where you're gonna find the documents for apache2
[06:29] <Supanova> was hoping for a step by step.
[06:29] <ubuntu> polish please
[06:30] <crov> mustard5, huh postfix is always hard to me(and if i disable it something in mysql fail)
[06:30] <addhen> what do i have to do
[06:30] <zooko> Hm.  galeon looks ugly too.
[06:30] <zooko> Okay, here is the part where I install random packages with the string "font" in their name until things look better.  :-)(
[06:30] <ubuntu> chuj wam w dupe nygusy
[06:30] <tony_> anyone tried adobe svg plugin for firefox under breezy? works fine?
[06:30] <Skid> is that a question, or a statement, or both? :P
[06:30] <chaps0063> i was wondering, what file(s) do I need to edit to stop a program from loading with the operating system?
[06:31] <linuxamoeba21> Supanova, not sure about myaql, but apache2 and php worked out of the box when i installed the packages
[06:31] <tony_> Skid:question only
[06:31] <Skid> I've not personally :)
[06:31] <zooko> No, I'll figure out which fonts packages the gnome-desktop or kde-desktop packages depend on, and install those.
[06:31] <addhen> please help me
[06:31] <ChMuRI> kto tu tak przeklina??
[06:31] <Supanova> tx linuxamoeba21. i'm busy doing the install now.
[06:31] <TiMiDo> addhen; ok
[06:32] <linuxamoeba21> addhen, does it look like its supposed to be there, or is it screen artifacts...?
[06:32] <ChMuRI> hello there ubuntu boys and girls
[06:32] <ChMuRI> :)
[06:32] <linuxamoeba21> howdy
[06:32] <zooko> ugh.  I guess I'll install kde, figure out which fonts came with it, then uninstall it except for the fonts packages...
[06:32] <mustard5> Help!
[06:32] <tony_> Skid:Maybe you can tell me what the The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache is? and how a library i installed is not available to a program? well maybe the fist one is easier?
[06:32] <zooko> I hate the situation with Free Software font configuration...
[06:32] <ChMuRI> who is the boss in here??
[06:32] <addhen> no i want to delete my previouse messages
[06:33] <rage> who can sync ipaq with ubuntu ?
[06:33] <linuxamoeba21> addhen whats the prob?
[06:33] <linuxamoeba21> mustard5, what?
[06:33] <mustard5> ubuntu..swearing...in polish I think and english
[06:33] <linuxamoeba21> what a punk
[06:33] <javanick> ok... i've got rar downloaded and installed...
[06:33] <mustard5> :)
[06:34] <mustard5> trying for an op :D
[06:34] <addhen> i said i have a problem with my evolution any time i try to delete my previous messages it does delete but rather strikes a line throught the subject
[06:34] <rage> who can sync ipaq with ubuntu ?
[06:34] <ChMuRI> i want to sooory for polish useres that are not coultural in the ubuntu channel
[06:34] <chaps0063> how do i remove a program from starting up with the system.
[06:34] <Orunitia> Is there a way to disable my laptop touchpad?
[06:34] <cyphase> whn i add a command to /etc/crontab, i don't need to restart cron, right?
[06:34] <TiMiDo> chaps0063; man update-rc.d
[06:34] <Skid> rage: there's some stuff on it on the forums - look for synce
[06:34] <Revellion> cyphase: no need indeed
[06:34] <Skid> works well for me anyway :)
[06:34] <Revellion> also...
[06:34] <chaps0063> TiMiDo, thanks.
[06:34] <rage> Skid, thanks
[06:34] <cyphase> thanx, just making sure
[06:34] <Revellion> crontab -e is the appropriate way to edit it...
[06:34] <javanick> but why do i get the message 'archive type not supported' while opening a rar file?
[06:34] <TiMiDo> np chaps0063
[06:35] <rage> Skid,  :P i cant sync a hp ipaq 1710
[06:35] <thenuke> http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Ubuntu  X-)
[06:35] <ChMuRI> who is the boss here??
[06:35] <TiMiDo> no one
[06:35] <TiMiDo> why?
[06:35] <Skid> rage: have a look, multisync may work for you - I've got a 4150, and it works great
[06:35] <kingruedi> anyone compiled mplayerplug-in for ubuntu ('breezy badger') with firefox?
[06:35] <mustard5> ChMuRI, they will come eventually
[06:35] <Colloid> anyone here able to get gPHPEdit working - i get: http://www.kupesoft.com/gPHPEdit-BROKEN.png
[06:35] <Skid> anyway, bbs.
[06:35] <medi> how I can get window list applet back?
[06:35] <linuxamoeba21> addhen, you could always back up your stuff and do a complete reinstall
[06:35] <TiMiDo> medi; what do you mean?
[06:35] <ChMuRI> yes i need them now
[06:35] <rage> Skid, i have multisync and raki
[06:35] <sn9> !tell ChMuRI about ops
[06:36] <addhen> yeah i did
[06:36] <addhen> but it still remains
[06:36] <medi> every apss disappear, when I minimize them..
[06:36] <Revellion> Colloid: some broken shit you got there
[06:36] <Revellion> Colloid: tried SciTE ?
[06:36] <TiMiDo> gnome? medi
[06:36] <javanick> sn9: i've downloaded rar support, but the archive is 'not supported'
[06:36] <medi> yea
[06:36] <linuxamoeba21> addhen, do they go away when you restart evo?
[06:37] <sn9> javanick: not supported in what program?
[06:37] <TiMiDo> medi; try pressing alt and tab and see if there there
[06:37] <medi> I just try to customize menus..
[06:37] <javanick> when i double-click a rar file
[06:37] <javanick> archive handler...
[06:37] <zooko> javanick: maybe look into the package unrar-nonfree
[06:37] <addhen> no they didn't
[06:37] <javanick> unrar... aha
[06:37] <sn9> javanick: i don't know -- i always use the command line
[06:38] <addhen> i was working fine when i on hoary but the problem started after upgrading to breezy
[06:38] <javanick> ok... i'll test it
[06:38] <medi> yes I can find them that way, but would like to see all the time
[06:38] <linuxamoeba21> i think theres a new version of evo
[06:38] <trampolando> hello
[06:38] <linuxamoeba21> mine does a strikethrough then it instantly goes away
[06:38] <ChMuRI> i dont seen any ops
[06:38] <addhen> my don't
[06:39] <trampolando> can anybody help me? I have ubuntu breezy, I use eciadsl to connect mt adsl a,d i want that at the startup automatically connects... how can I do this? thank you
[06:39] <mlopes> does anyone know the name of the package that contains the man pages for the Linux API?
[06:39] <medi> normally they are, in top of the desktop, but I removed that panel and try to make new one to down
[06:40] <BesteN> hello i have a little problem whit my computer.. i don't think it can find my networkcard.. when i write "sudo dhclient eth0" i get the message "unknowd hardware device.." what shall i do?
[06:40] <ChMuRI> ifconfig
[06:40] <addhen> is there any dependency i have to install that i haven't
[06:40] <ChMuRI> sudo -s
[06:40] <javanick> sn9: the file is in my 'home' dir, do i run unrar with unrar-free /home/file.rar?
[06:40] <BesteN> ChaKy: oh for my problem?
[06:41] <medi> sois there any way to get Window List applet back?
[06:41] <sn9> javanick: just unrar file.rar
[06:41] <unperson> Is 100 MB a reasonable size for a boot partition?
[06:41] <ChMuRI> !help
[06:41] <unperson> !faq
[06:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[06:41] <linuxamoeba21> addhen, not that i know of, it it runs, youre prob good. i'm trying and i can't replicate it... erm... thunderbird's pretty good =D
[06:41] <javanick> sn9: unrar: command not found
[06:41] <Skid> yeah 100 is fine
[06:41] <sn9> javanick: did you install unrar-nonfree?
[06:41] <chaps0063> TiMiDo, I didn't really find anything pertaining to the program that I want to stop.
[06:41] <BesteN> ChMuRI: is that for my problem the ifconfig thing?
[06:42] <Skid> unless you put everthing into your kernel, but tut :)
[06:42] <addhen> yeah that what i have switched to now
[06:42] <ChMuRI> !seen opd
[06:42] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'opd', ChMuRI
[06:42] <ChMuRI> !seen ops
[06:42] <linuxamoeba21> medi, the panel window list can be added by right click panel > add to panel
[06:42] <ubotu> ChMuRI: i haven't seen 'ops'
[06:42] <javanick> sn9: no, i chose unrar-free
[06:42] <ChMuRI> !seen  tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic,
[06:42] <ubotu> ChMuRI: i haven't seen ' tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, carlk, seveas, burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic,'
[06:42] <Colloid> Revellion: what's SciTE?
[06:43] <Seveas> ChMuRI, stop playing with the bot
[06:43] <ChMuRI> !seen  tritium ajmich
[06:43] <ubotu> ChMuRI: i haven't seen ' tritium ajmich'
[06:43] <ChMuRI> !seen  tritium
[06:43] <ubotu> ChMuRI: i haven't seen ' tritium'
[06:43] <unperson> Skid:  No, but I might want to keep several kernals around.
[06:43] <crov> How to see this: * When installing apache2*  Search both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using.
[06:43] <sn9> javanick: that won't handle new rar files
[06:43] <medi> so, where is Window List applet?
[06:43] <javanick> sn9: well i got it started, but it failed!
[06:43] <mustard5> Seveas, he was trying to work out how to find an op :)
[06:43] <linuxamoeba21> medi, under "Desktop & Windows"
[06:43] <Seveas> he found one..
[06:43] <Revellion> Colloid: a nice Editor :)
[06:43] <sn9> javanick: because you need nonfree
[06:43] <mustard5> Seveas there was another polish guy in here swearing earlier
[06:43] <javanick> sn9: but why can't i find unrar-nonfree?
[06:43] <Revellion> Colloid: with Syntax-hilighting and a nice auto-indent
[06:43] <Colloid> Revellion: good for php?
[06:43] <Skid> unperson: /dev/hda1             177M   18M  150M  11% /boot
[06:44] <sn9> javanick: have you enabled all repositories?
[06:44] <linuxamoeba21> well, i'm of to, of all things, CS class. later, all
[06:44] <Skid> that's with 3 kernels on it
[06:44] <Revellion> Colloid: i've used it for PHP myself
[06:44] <Revellion> so yes it's good for php
[06:44] <Skid> i just used 200, for some reason :)
[06:44] <Revellion> Colloid: wanna see screenshot of it in-action?
[06:44] <javanick> sn9: yes, i have (i'll re-check)
[06:44] <Skid> bbl
[06:44] <medi> okey, I tri to wind that on my Finnish version
[06:44] <Colloid> Revelloin: sure... can the ss be of php?
[06:44] <Revellion> Colloid: indeed it will be of PHP
[06:44] <cbo> hello all, i've followed directions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes to upgrade Hoary to Breeze, but now some apps don't show fonts like before, i.e. vlc, some hint about what can i do pls?
[06:44] <zooko> cbo: I have a similar problem.
[06:45] <Colloid> Revelloin: thanks ;/
[06:45] <javanick> sn9: yes i have...
[06:45] <cbo> zooko: what do you think it is?
[06:45] <Revellion> Colloid: http://reve.filserver.com/~revellion/php-scite.png
[06:45] <zooko> cbo: no idea.  Sorry.
[06:45] <sn9> javanick: did you click Reload?
[06:45] <piedamaro> cbo, maybe you need an uograded /etc/fonts.conf?
[06:45] <nafi> hi all.
[06:46] <javanick> sn9: yes... but these files cannot be found:
[06:46] <javanick> http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 130.239.18.137 80] 
[06:46] <javanick> http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 130.239.18.137 80] 
[06:46] <javanick> http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 130.239.18.137 80] 
[06:46] <javanick> http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 130.239.18.137 80] 
[06:46] <javanick> http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 130.239.18.137 80] 
[06:46] <javanick> http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/restricted/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 130.239.18.137 80] 
[06:46] <giogom> Hi you good people. Have just joined, am sure this has been discussed a great deal, I noticed in the forum ,but it seems X refuses to load on nvidia platforms. Any news on this?
[06:46] <javanick> http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/universe/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 130.239.18.137 80] 
[06:46] <Revellion> javanick: stop spamming the channel
[06:46] <pabloesc> javanick, Backports are offline
[06:46] <Revellion> thanks
[06:46] <sn9> javanick: don't enable backports
[06:46] <unperson> So, is it correct that swap should preferably go at the begining of the disk?
[06:46] <pabloesc> for good !!
[06:46] <Revellion> and yes backports are not availabe for breezy yet >_>
[06:46] <zooko> piedamaro: how does one go about updating one's /etc/fonts.conf?
[06:46] <RazaMetaL> hi guys ..
[06:47] <RazaMetaL> I've one 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[06:47] <Colloid> Revellion: nice
[06:47] <Revellion> Colloid: indeed
[06:47] <cbo> piedamaro: don't know, i'm going to see my /etc/fonts.conf
[06:47] <Revellion> and also
[06:47] <nafi> does somebody know, how i get the windows-resize funktion with ALT-MOUSE3 back to work?
[06:47] <Revellion> if you have indented a text using tab
[06:47] <RazaMetaL> do you know how to enable de 4  speakers outup for this card ?
[06:47] <Revellion> and you hit enter for a new row
[06:47] <Revellion> it will keep the indent :)
[06:47] <addhen> does any one know of a reposotry that i can do j2sdk updates always i have to dowload it from suns website
[06:47] <Colloid> Revelloin: no code folding... ;<
[06:47] <Revellion> Colloid: it has code folding ;P
[06:48] <medi> oh, don know, how to sent Window List applet back
[06:48] <olicat> any ideas why my network drops out at random times, with latest breezy?
[06:48] <Colloid> sick~
[06:48] <javanick> sorry for that...
[06:48] <Colloid> ok i gtg
[06:48] <Revellion> except it's not availabe on that page :)
[06:48] <Colloid> ty rev
[06:48] <Alex_BO> where can i find ubuntu cover cd to print?
[06:48] <Revellion> Colloid: ttyl then
[06:48] <piedamaro> zooko, maybe you have an /etc/fonts.conf.new or something, I remember mine was uograded at some point
[06:48] <medi> is there any place to do that?
[06:48] <glenn_> just downloaded breezy and its great, does someone know when ubuntu will have its control center or something like that
[06:48] <olicat> cant figure it out. i thought it was just me, but turns out not to be
[06:48] <javanick> sn9: the server might just be down...
[06:48] <cbo> piedamaro: it says that i shouldn't touch that file (/etc/fonts/fonts.conf)
[06:49] <sn9> javanick: no. backports is not there. disable backports
[06:49] <Revellion> javanick: not really
[06:49] <Revellion> javanick: breezy-backports does'nt EXIST ye
[06:49] <Revellion> *yet
[06:49] <Alex_BO> WHERE can i find ubuntu cover of cd to print?
[06:49] <Revellion> hoary does however
[06:49] <Revellion> but not breezy-backports..
[06:49] <Seveas> Alex_BO, wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYmarketing
[06:49] <Angel777> Hi, I have a problem with my hostname. I changed it and it seems that Ubuntu dopesnot like it. I cannot change it because as cannnot use the command sudo. Anyone have an idea how to fix that?
[06:50] <Angel777> sudo is not working because it is telling me : sudo: unable to lookup ---== DURAN via gethostbyname()
[06:50] <pabloesc> Angel777, boot to recovery mode and visudo the file
[06:51] <Bentron> I'm having a bit of trouble getting my PS2 USB adapter working in amd64 breezy.  The device gets created when I plug it in, but it doesn't seem to be getting any input from the controller (checked via cat /dev/input/js0).  Anybody have an idea as to why it won't work and/or how to fix it?
[06:51] <Angel777> I used Xterm mode I think but it doesnot want to let me do sudo. In recovery mode, will I be able to do a sudo command?
[06:51] <medi> how to set Window List applet to menu?
[06:51] <chaps0063> if i installed an application from its own installer, how do i uninstall it?
[06:51] <cbo> Angel777: can you boot with knoppix?
[06:51] <glenn_> Angel: did u do something with the resolv.conf or the nameservers
[06:51] <addhen> please any reposotory that i can have my sun j2sdk updates
[06:51] <crov> Revellion, nice editor , is it public or, i need something for php also :)
[06:51] <sn9> !tell addhen about javadeb
[06:51] <Angel777> I used the network configuration to change what was called hostname in the terminal to ---== DURAN ==---
[06:51] <Habbie> don't do that
[06:52] <Habbie> a hostname should be functional
[06:52] <pabloesc> Angel777, visudo is the way to go if You can't get sudo to work
[06:52] <Angel777> And now it does not allow me to run anything which needs to be logged as root
[06:52] <Habbie> just letters, numbers and perhaps some minus-signs
[06:52] <mustard5> Angel777, you should get a login prompt and you can login as root I think
[06:52] <pabloesc> Angel777, recovery mode -> visudo -> sudoers
[06:52] <glenn_> angel, did u give an static ip and dns
[06:52] <piedamaro> cbo, I'm trying to send you my fonts.conf
[06:52] <mustard5> pabloesc, ah ok..I didnt know that
[06:52] <Angel777> Yeah Habbie, now I know that it should just be letters and numbers...
[06:52] <Alex_BO> Seveas, thank you
[06:53] <Angel777> How do you log as root at the session pannel?
[06:53] <shagg> need help with a broken pipe error during an upgrade - I've done apt-get -f a few times but with the same result.  what's my next best thing to try?
[06:53] <Angel777> OK. I'll try recovery mode. visudo is a command?
[06:53] <Revellion> crov: might i ask what you meant by "public" ?
[06:53] <pabloesc> Angel777, visudo
[06:53] <mustard5> Angel777, ye
[06:53] <dmallery> hi... install fails on inspiron CPx at end: configuring apt repository 25%.  fails with manual/dhcp/no ethernet.  heard of this?  thanks!
[06:54] <Angel777> and what is sudoers and what shall I modify with it?
[06:54] <zooko> Hm.  Every time
[06:54] <zooko> I reboot, my /dev/null and /dev/pty* have been set to rw-rw----.
[06:54] <zooko> Which breaks lots of things.
[06:54] <mustard5> Angel777, nano if you are on ubuntu, kate if your on kubuntu
[06:54] <miksu> what is the command for displaying active processes? i would like to be able to shutdown a process directly from the terminal with the kill command..
[06:55] <piedamaro> ps ax
[06:55] <Angel777> I tried to modify when I was in Xterm session the hostname file with nano but sionce I can not use sudo it did not let me save the file
[06:55] <chaps0063> Hello, I was wondering, how do I stop a program from starting with the system?
[06:55] <piedamaro> you can try also pkil or killall
[06:55] <crov> Revellion, can we download this editor, or what is this :) (i just see littlebit of conversation with Co***)
[06:55] <bjron> anyone know how to allow running multiple instances of mozilla-thunderbird?
[06:56] <mustard5> Angel777, your going to be using visudo though from recovery mode
[06:56] <pabloesc> Angel777, /etc/sudoers
[06:56] <mustard5> Angel777, apparently it works like sudo
[06:56] <Angel777> And how do I get to recovery mode? ;)
[06:56] <miksu> piedemaro okay and how to make terminal display a listing divided into pages
[06:56] <Angel777> I can go at the session pannel?
[06:56] <zooko> Which Ubuntu package controls the permissions settings on /dev/null and /dev/pty*?  makedev?  kernel?  hotplug?
[06:56] <mustard5> Angel777, its one of the options on your grub boot menu
[06:56] <Angel777> OK. Thanks. I'll try this
[06:56] <Angel777> Thanks for your help all
[06:56] <Nomad_1> Hey All. Is it possible to sync a local folder to a networked folder? (i.e. I want a folder on my linux system to keep up with a music folder on my wife's computer.)
[06:56] <piedamaro> a listing of what?
[06:57] <unperson> General rule of thumb is swap = 2 X RAM.  Any harm in having more swap space than that in case you add RAM later, or is that just silly?
[06:57] <zooko> whoa, famd appears to need libstdc++5, which is not installed...
[06:57] <piedamaro> ah ok
[06:57] <cbo> cbo: how are you trying that?
[06:57] <Revellion> crov: it's obtainable using apt
[06:57] <Revellion> crov: so yes
[06:57] <Revellion> it's an Open-Source editor
[06:57] <Revellion> GTK2 based
[06:57] <Revellion> apt-get install scite should do it :)
[06:57] <Revellion> or using synaptic
[06:57] <cbo> piedamaro: how are you trying to send me this file?
[06:57] <Revellion> or whatever frontend you use
[06:57] <miksu> piedemaro the listing which is displayed with ps ax .. i mean that what do i add after the command to have the processes listed in pages ( not memory pages, actual pages)
[06:58] <piedamaro> miksu, ps ax|grep more or ps ax|grep less
[06:58] <Ekibyougami> good morning
[06:58] <miksu> piedemaro all right thankyou
[06:58] <Bentron> miksu, ps ax |less
[06:58] <mustard5> morning Ekibyougami
[06:58] <piedamaro> miksu,or you can hit shift+pg_up
[06:58] <zooko> Ooh!  A clue!  fam and portmap weren't installed?
[06:58] <Bentron> miksu, or ps aux |grep <whatever you're interested in>
[06:58] <MenZa`> Anyone from Denmark who's ordered the Ubuntu CDs here? I need to know if the Danish tax agency is going to pickup my package?
[06:58] <zooko> Is there a tool to detect executables in /usr/bin which are not part of any currently installed .deb?
[06:59] <dmallery> hi... install fails on inspiron CPx at end: configuring apt repository 25%.  fails with manual/dhcp/no ethernet.  heard of this?  thanks!
[06:59] <Remmelas> What to do when sudo stops working?
[06:59] <pabloesc> zooko, install via apt-get deborphan
[06:59] <Revellion> zooko: ls /usr/bin
[06:59] <piedamaro> miksu, Bentron is right, leave out 'grep' ;)
[07:00] <mustard5> Remmelas, you can check you sudoers file to see if you are still in it
[07:00] <zooko> pabloesc: thanks!
[07:00] <zrothe> Nomad_1: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22Sync+two+folders%22+linux&btnG=Search
[07:00] <Remmelas> mustard5  execpt i don't have permissions to read it
[07:01] <jorgp_> can someone help me get sound working using breezy
[07:01] <pabloesc> zooko, deborphan via termial will tell You what is unwanted in your system
[07:01] <a_monkey> jorgp_: install alsa
[07:01] <cbo> piedamaro: could you please send the file uuencoded to cbo@mailinator.com?
[07:01] <RazaMetaL> jorgp_:  turn the volume on with alsamixer
[07:01] <mustard5> Remmelas, recovery mode will help you get to it, using the visudo instead of sudo i believe
[07:01] <jorgp_> a_monkey: it's installed, volumns are up and not mutted
[07:01] <a_monkey> jorgp_: hmm
[07:01] <RazaMetaL> jorgp_: the default is  off
[07:01] <a_monkey> jorgp_: can't help ya there
[07:02] <a_monkey> jorgp_: use alsamixer, like RazaMetaL is telling you to do
[07:02] <piedamaro> cbo, ok, it's because I have no public ip
[07:02] <Remmelas> ah, so i need to get infront of my machine physically and boot into recovery mode?
[07:02] <piedamaro> I can't do dcc send
[07:02] <jorgp_> they are all on
[07:02] <defcon8> is there a net install cd for ubuntu?
[07:02] <piedamaro> cba, a simple mail is not enough?
[07:02] <jorgp_> /etc/init.d/alsa-utils starts fine
[07:03] <medi> okey, my broplem is solvet
[07:03] <sn9> defcon8: there is netinstall, but for netboot
[07:03] <medi> thanks
[07:03] <crov> Revellion,  what is name of this editor thnx
[07:03] <defcon8> sn9, sorry?
[07:03] <egoleo> still no luck for my dvd movie problem
[07:03] <sn9> defcon8: if you can netboot your machine, it's easy
[07:04] <defcon8> and what does netboot mean/
[07:04] <axisys> is there a daemon or service that I can enable or install to receive dhcp ip automatically w/o stop/start networking?
[07:04] <zrothe> defcon8: the live cd can be used for netinstall
[07:04] <defcon8> thankyou zrothe
[07:04] <sn9> !tell egoleo about javadeb
[07:04] <defcon8> ok then
[07:05] <axisys> i take my laptop to home/work back and forth every day
[07:05] <jxpx> how can i move  a folder to anoother folder?
[07:05] <sn9> zrothe: how?
[07:05] <egoleo> i dont need java
[07:05] <defcon8> how do i use the livecdfor netinstall and also, if i use a hoary hedgehog livecd will i be able to netinstall breezy?
[07:05] <axisys> and i always have to run /etc/init/networking start/stop
[07:05] <linuxboy_> will openoffice v2 go into breezy once its out?
[07:05] <egoleo> i need dvd
[07:05] <sn9> egoleo: sorry
[07:05] <jxpx> how can i move  a folder to anoother folder?
[07:05] <egoleo> look
[07:05] <aman_tgh_bosan> .. /var/log/message error what is the problem
[07:06] <sn9> egoleo: did you enable hoary-extras?
[07:06] <Remmelas> mustard5: k, I am still in the sudoers file.  Not sure what's going on, but when I sudo anyting, the command line just hangs, no errors, no text, and many times i can't even ctrl+c out of it
[07:06] <zrothe> defcon8 I take that back.. you cannot net install with the live cd, but you can install using the cd itself...its about 550mb
[07:06] <egoleo>  sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[07:06] <shagg> I know this isn't recommended, but I need to force a package to install.  What's the best terminal command to do this?
[07:06] <egoleo> that gives me problems
[07:06] <zrothe> it's all on that once cd + about 20 mb you dl from the net
[07:06] <aman_tgh_bosan> i try to install ubuntu but this massges come out .. /var/log/message error what is the problem
[07:07] <jxpx> how can imove a file i dont remeber the command , mv...
[07:07] <Bentron> shagg, is it a package in a repository or a .deb you've downloaded?
[07:07] <defcon8> anyone?
[07:07] <padmawan> egoleo: are you using totem?
[07:07] <egoleo> yes
[07:07] <OsvaldoGago> Help. Can anyone tell me if it's easy to install Ubuntu on dual boot with windows. I want to replace a Mandrake 10.1 distro....
[07:07] <mustard5> Remmelas, you used the pastebine before?
[07:07] <egoleo> i have totem
[07:07] <egoleo> its also not playing it
[07:07] <mustard5> Remmelas, you used the pastebin before?
[07:07] <padmawan> egoleo: then use totem-xine
[07:07] <axisys> jxpx: mv folder otherfolder
[07:07] <egoleo> and even mplayer too
[07:08] <zrothe> defcon8: maybe try this - http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71
[07:08] <egoleo> they are all not playing it
[07:08] <Remmelas> pastebin?  can't say that i have
[07:08] <MenZa`> Any good linux programs I should know of when I get Ubuntu?
[07:08] <padmawan> egoleo: or ogle?
[07:08] <mustard5> !tell Remmelas about pastebin
[07:08] <Khantozavri> hi folks... i need some help & advice....
[07:08] <sn9> egoleo: install libdvdcss2
[07:08] <egoleo> it gives me this problem that the movie is encrpted
[07:08] <mahangu> MenZa`, there are lots, use syanptic
[07:08] <jxpx> thanks axisys
[07:08] <aman_tgh_bosan> i try to install ubuntu but this massges come out .. /var/log/message error what is the problem
[07:08] <miksu> egolea try vlc. it's in synaptic. works fine for me
[07:08] <egoleo> can i get the command for that
[07:08] <MenZa`> mahangu: well, any really good must-have ones?
[07:08] <sn9> egoleo: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[07:08] <mustard5> Remmelas, ubotu has sent you a pm on the pastebin...can you copy and paste your sudoers file into the pastebin and then come back here and show me the URL to your pastebin
[07:09] <mahangu> MenZa`, most of the must haves ship with ubuntu :)
[07:09] <MenZa`> Hehe, I know :)
[07:09] <Khantozavri> I'm dualbooting with xp... i've got following partitions: ntfs-primary, then extended with fat32 (hda5), swap (hda6), reiserfs (hda7 /) and reiserff (hda8 /home)
[07:09] <MenZa`> I've ordered some CDs, my inet connection's too slow for me to download.
[07:09] <Remmelas> mustard5: will do, will take me a little bit(have an urgent 'honey do ; from the wife =)  appreciate the help
[07:09] <aman_tgh_bosan> i try to install ubuntu but this massges come out .. /var/log/message error what is the problem
[07:09] <egoleo>  sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[07:09] <egoleo> Reading package lists... Done
[07:09] <egoleo> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:09] <egoleo> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:09] <egoleo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:09] <egoleo> is only available from another source
[07:09] <egoleo> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[07:09] <piedamaro> Menza, I use quodlibet for music, very nce app (install with synaptic)
[07:09] <egoleo> i get that error
[07:10] <mustard5> Remmelas, np
[07:10] <egoleo> when i want to install it
[07:10] <egoleo> so how
[07:10] <sn9> egoleo: then you didn't enable hoary-extras
[07:10] <chaps0063> sn9, how do you add the hoary-extras?
[07:10] <shagg> bentron - it's in a repository
[07:10] <egoleo> i have change all to breezy
[07:10] <egoleo> bcos i did a manual upgrade
[07:10] <occy> boo
[07:10] <occy> I guess I'm here.
[07:10] <sn9> chaps0063: deb http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/ hoary-extras main restricted universe multiverse
[07:10] <egoleo> by changing all hoary to breezy
[07:10] <Zoohouse> Where Can I find more information on how to install ubuntu over a LAN?
[07:11] <Bentron> shagg, what's it complaining about?  dependencies?
[07:11] <signius> Does anyone here use a cisco aironet 350 wireless nic under ubuntu breezy ?
[07:11] <egoleo> to get breezy installed
[07:11] <signius> I am having a torrid with it
[07:11] <signius> torrid time i meant
[07:11] <sn9> egoleo: you still need hoary-extras under breezy
[07:11] <aman_tgh_bosan> i try to install ubuntu but this massges come out .. /var/log/message error what is the problem
[07:11] <egoleo> so can i get that line
[07:11] <shagg> bentron - broken pipe.
[07:12] <datarelease> anyone care to offer an explanation as to why i can't sudo make in the tmp directory?
[07:12] <occy> odd
[07:12] <sn9> egoleo: the line in the sources.list file is: deb http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/ hoary-extras main restricted universe multiverse
[07:12] <occy> I can't seem to get anywhere, but I'm here on #ubuntu just fine
[07:12] <occy> *chuckle*
[07:12] <Bentron> shagg, oh... not sure then :/
[07:12] <egoleo> is it all on one line
[07:12] <sn9> egoleo: in the sources.list file
[07:13] <piedamaro> datarelease, it means your trying to build software with make as root in the /tmp dir?
[07:13] <egoleo> i am asking what u gave to me
[07:13] <signius> :-( nobody with experience of cisco cards under ubuntu
[07:13] <egoleo> is it on one line in the source.list
[07:13] <axisys> how do I get automatic dhcp ip?
[07:13] <sn9> egoleo: yes
[07:13] <axisys> w/o running networking stop/start
[07:13] <poningru> occy: type in '/j #ubuntu-offtopic'
[07:14] <poningru> and press enter
[07:14] <egoleo> ok
[07:14] <sn9> egoleo: with that line in there, sudo apt-get update
[07:14] <occy> poningru, heh
[07:15] <occy> :P
[07:15] <\root\menza> What's a good linux irc client?
[07:15] <jxpx> what is the directory of the desktop?
[07:15] <\root\menza> irssi?
[07:15] <axisys> \root\menza: yeap
[07:15] <IcemanV9> xchat
[07:15] <piedamaro> I'm using xchat
[07:15] <miksu> gimp is so cool =)
[07:15] <\root\menza> I find gimp hard when I'm used to photoshop
[07:15] <\root\menza> :)
[07:15] <Zoohouse> How do I install ubuntu over a network? I would like to install Ubuntu on a laptop that does not have a CD ROM and I don't have a external CD ROM.
[07:15] <Mehok> need help
[07:15] <jxpx> what is the directory of the desktop?
[07:15] <shagg> bentron - I'm kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place because my system is in the middle of an apt-get dist-upgrade and died en-route.
[07:16] <Bentron> on which package?
[07:16] <Ekibyougami> jxpx, home/username/Dekstop
[07:16] <shagg> bentron - the complaint is about a file that's duplicated between packages (OOo2-help-en-us and OOo2-calc)
[07:16] <Zoohouse> jxpx, ~/Desktop
[07:16] <Rockett`> /home/[your username] /Desktop
[07:16] <jxpx> thanks
[07:16] <\root\menza> What resolutions do ubuntu support?
[07:16] <axisys> jxpx: cd Desktop
[07:16] <sn9> signius: did you try the airo-cs driver?
[07:17] <Mehok> i was wondering how would i be able to get my files of the computer that i had in my documents on the windows os and i am dual booting
[07:17] <axisys> wow.. soo many answers
[07:17] <Bentron> shagg, oh, it's just open office... see if you can skip it somehow and just go back to fix it after the upgrade
[07:17] <axisys> anyone can help me with dhcp ip ?
[07:17] <mustard5> Mehok, you would need to mount your windows drive
[07:17] <Zoohouse> \root\menza, its not about ress ubuntu supports, its about what ress Xorg supports. You can type in any ress that you want
[07:17] <axisys> i like to get the ip automatically
[07:17] <shagg> bentron - great, but how?  (i'm still noob-ish in terminal)
[07:17] <axisys> w/o running networking stop/start
[07:17] <Mehok> How
[07:17] <\root\menza> Zoohouse: Okay. I'm a complete n00b to Linux, and I don't have Ubuntu installed yet - I ordered it :)
[07:18] <mustard5> !tell Mehok about windowsdrives
[07:18] <mustard5> Mehok, check the message from ubotu
[07:18] <Zoohouse> \root\menza, Do you have a live cd around?
[07:18] <Mehok> what mesage
[07:18] <mustard5> from ubotu
[07:18] <\root\menza> Zoohouse: Neg. I ordered it the other day.
[07:18] <signius> Im also stuck with ubuntu refusing to start with eth2 by default it insists on starting eth1 no matter what the fuck i tell it to do the card starts but i have to manually active that card upon boot up with although its a pain it wouldne be a problem normally apart from added inconvience....However becuase its not activating eth2 on boot up its also not creating /proc/drivers/aironet/eths2 which has the added the effect that i cannot use an
[07:18] <mustard5> you cant see a little window with ubotu?
[07:18] <Zoohouse> \root\menza, stay here, i am going to show you something
[07:18] <\root\menza> So, is Ubuntu n00b friendly :D?
[07:19] <guru54> so far yes :P
[07:19] <mustard5> \root\menza, hehe depends ;)
[07:19] <Ekibyougami> well its more noob friendly than say gentoo or slak
[07:19] <GreenFireD> how can I install JAVA support?
[07:19] <mustard5> Mehok, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:19] <LoneWolf071> how do i uninstall something?
[07:19] <sn9> GreenFireD: you ran azureus without java?
[07:19] <datarelease> anyone wanna help a noob with getting a driver installed?
[07:19] <egoleo> sn9
[07:19] <mustard5> LoneWolf071, was it a .deb you installed or was it installed via synatic or apt-get?
[07:19] <GreenFireD> hi sn9, yes
[07:20] <egoleo> when i made it breezy
[07:20] <sn9> egoleo: yes?
[07:20] <TiMiDo> datarelease; ask away
[07:20] <LoneWolf071> apt-get
[07:20] <GreenFireD> :( this is the problem?
[07:20] <piedamaro> signius, look at/etc/network/interfaces
[07:20] <mustard5> LoneWolf071, apt-get remove <packagname>
[07:20] <LoneWolf071> i did and it's not all gone
[07:20] <egoleo> so what next
[07:20] <signius> yeah i been in there and everything is correct
[07:20] <TiMiDo> !tell GreenFireD about javadeb
[07:20] <egoleo> sn9
[07:20] <LoneWolf071> i also used aptitude
[07:20] <egoleo> what next
[07:20] <sn9> GreenFireD: azureus will not even show a window without java
[07:20] <mustard5> LoneWolf071, sudo apt-get remove <package>
[07:20] <egoleo> sn9
[07:20] <\root\menza> Well, when I install Ubuntu, will I need to use gazillions of commandlines etc. :d?
[07:20] <LoneWolf071> apt-get remove apache didn't work
[07:20] <sn9> egoleo: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[07:20] <shedi> LoneWolf071, apt-get remove --purge <package>
[07:20] <mustard5> Logikal`, ah ok
[07:20] <TiMiDo> LoneWolf071; are you sure isn't apache2?
[07:20] <mustard5> LoneWolf071, ok
[07:21] <mustard5> LoneWolf071, trying to remember how to purge :D
[07:21] <GreenFireD> sn9, but it was working, but didn't downloaded nothing
[07:21] <Zoohouse> \root\menza, check out my xconfig at http://sial.org/pbot/13751  see how you would control the ress manualy? very stright forward and simple.
[07:21] <Ekibyougami> \root\menza, the install is very simple and graphical
[07:21] <mustard5> What
[07:21] <egoleo> still error
[07:21] <signius> piedamaro if i comment out eth1 then eth1 doesnt activate on boot up however niether does eth2 and eth2 is set to auto eth2 in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:21] <mustard5> Whats the apt-get purge command ppl?
[07:21] <LoneWolf071> yes... and i just apt-get remove apache apache2(i have both installed)
[07:21] <\root\menza> Ekibyougami: And the configuration and setup?
[07:21] <sn9> GreenFireD: then you must already have java
[07:21] <GreenFireD> witch of them i need to download? http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[07:21] <shedi> apt-get remove --purge <package>
[07:21] <egoleo>  sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[07:21] <egoleo> Reading package lists... Done
[07:21] <egoleo> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:21] <egoleo> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:21] <egoleo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:21] <egoleo> is only available from another source
[07:21] <egoleo> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[07:21] <LoneWolf071> and now i do apt-get removie --purse apache and it doesn't do it
[07:21] <egoleo> still error
[07:21] <egoleo> sn9
[07:21] <mustard5> Thanks egoleo
[07:21] <piedamaro> signus, I have this for my eth0: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:22] <Ekibyougami> it configs most things automagically
[07:22] <HappyFool> egoleo: please don't paste here
[07:22] <shedi>  --purse :>
[07:22] <egoleo> ok
[07:22] <LoneWolf071> doesn't work!
[07:22] <nalioth_zZz> egoleo: please don't paste in here
[07:22] <sn9> egoleo: did you do "sudo apt-get update" ?
[07:22] <\root\menza> egoleo: http://rafb.net/paste/
[07:22] <\root\menza> Ekibyougami: Awsome.
[07:22] <HappyFool> LoneWolf071: have you tried using synaptic ?
[07:22] <LoneWolf071> and my sudo password never workd
[07:22] <feross> hey is there a GUI way to configure grub?
[07:22] <egoleo> yes
[07:22] <mustard5> what does doesnt work mean LoneWolf071 ?  can you give a specific error message plz?
[07:22] <Revellion> crov: simply SciTE
[07:22] <signius> piedamaro eth1 and eth2 are on the same physical with a cisco but becuase the aironet 350 has 2 external antenna connector its sees 2 cards even tho physically there is only 1
[07:22] <Mehok> any way is there a way to get to my files or not if you are going to be complicated then just say no
[07:22] <egoleo> but when i do with hoary-
[07:22] <\root\menza> Anyone here from scandinavia (preferably Denmark) who got their Ubuntu on ShipIt CDs?
[07:22] <egoleo> it does not work
[07:23] <egoleo> so i change d it to breezy
[07:23] <GreenFireD> sn9, I need to download most new version from the list? http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[07:24] <nalioth> Mehok: ask your question again, i just got here
[07:24] <sn9> GreenFireD: type: java -version
[07:24] <Bentron> shagg, not sure.  I just skimmed through the man pages and didn't see anything
[07:24] <piedamaro> signius, ok, are u sure it's eth1 and eth2 and not eth1 and eth1:1 ? (subinterface)
[07:24] <GreenFireD> java version "1.4.2"
[07:24] <GreenFireD> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[07:24] <GreenFireD> Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[07:24] <GreenFireD> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
[07:24] <GreenFireD> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[07:24] <HappyFool> aargh
[07:24] <sn9> egoleo: breezy will not work. it must be hoary-extras
[07:24] <egoleo> ok
[07:24] <shagg> bentron - I think I might just boot up with the livecd and try and offload the important documents then start fresh.
[07:24] <egoleo> changed but still
[07:24] <Mehok> nalioth I would like to know how can i get to the files that i have in my documents in windows to view them in linux
[07:25] <sn9> egoleo: are you on i386 or amd64?
[07:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Mehok about mountwindows
[07:25] <datarelease> anyone have any experience with getting bg2200 wireless to work?
[07:25] <egoleo> i386
[07:25] <supermarkuman> %C00ff00 hello
[07:25] <nalioth> GreenFireD: please do not paste in here, see /topic
[07:25] <sn9> GreenFireD: you need to uninstall a bunch of stuff
[07:25] <Ekibyougami> datarelease, you most likely will need ndiswrapper
[07:25] <signius> piedamaro yes because when i manually acvtivate he card everything works and all the WEP DHCP etc thats configured on eth2 works but the same is not true is just configure eth1 also when you go into /proc/drivers/aironet/ there is only a /eth1 not any ohter variations
[07:26] <GreenFireD> sn9, what example?
[07:26] <GreenFireD> nalioth, sorry :(
[07:26] <sn9> datarelease: you do not need ndiswrapper; you need ipw2200
[07:26] <mustard5> Mehok, you get the ubotu message this time from nalioth?
[07:26] <signius> this is stopping me using anything like kismet and etherreal or anything using RFMON and it needs /proc/drivers/aironet/eth2 and this is not being created
[07:26] <egoleo> sn9
[07:26] <egoleo> some chunks of errors
[07:26] <sn9> GreenFireD: for example java-gcj-compat
[07:26] <Mehok> can you give me a step by step process what to do
[07:27] <egoleo> cant paste here
[07:27] <egoleo> so tell me something sn9
[07:27] <nalioth> Mehok: open the file that ubotu linked to, and read it
[07:27] <mustard5> Mehok, we are trying but your not receiving the PM's from ubotu
[07:27] <egoleo> error with update
[07:27] <sn9> datarelease: you shouldn't need to make it
[07:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell egoleo about paste
[07:27] <egoleo> sn9 error
[07:27] <redeeman> hello
[07:27] <redeeman> does the ubuntu livecd have all the wireless drivers the normal ubuntu isntall has?
[07:27] <egoleo> ok
[07:28] <Mehok> i wouldent know why
[07:28] <herdh> i need install mplayer and i install build-essential but when i do ./configure i get message that i don't have gcc-3.x. how install gcc-3 ???
[07:28] <GreenFireD> sn9, and to install sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0 ?
[07:28] <mustard5> !mountwindows
[07:28] <ubotu> mountwindows is probably Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically)
[07:28] <sn9> GreenFireD: yes
[07:28] <GreenFireD> ok
[07:28] <mustard5> see that now Mehok ?
[07:28] <flask-> so Java is completely broken on my system following an upgrade to Breezy... anyone wanna take a stab at this w/ me?
[07:28] <mustard5> Mehok, see what ubotu said further up?
[07:28] <Ekibyougami> !java
[07:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[07:28] <sn9> datarelease: did you install linux-restricted-modules for your kernel?
[07:28] <nalioth> Mehok: got get the file mentioned in ubotu's statement this one >> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[07:28] <Bentron> herdh, apt-get install gcc-3.4
[07:29] <rem_> hey, if i have a p4 3ghz hyperthreading would linux-image-686smp be the best .. ?
[07:29] <phr0zenkore> hello, how do i get into root at ubuntu?
[07:29] <Ekibyougami> rem_, affirmative
[07:29] <rem_> ok thx
[07:29] <nalioth> rem_: it would bring you more joy, yes
[07:29] <piedamaro> signius, you're right, then it could be that on boot it tries to bring the ifaces up when there is no 'airo' module loaded
[07:29] <Ekibyougami> phr0zenkore, ubuntu uses fakeroot
[07:29] <Ekibyougami> so you use sudo
[07:29] <signius> java is completely broke on most systems its the biigest load of unreliable incompatible crap going IMHO it doesnt matter what platform its on
[07:29] <Phr0zenKore> fakeroot?
[07:29] <Phr0zenKore> k..
[07:29] <Phr0zenKore> so ubuntu has no root?
[07:29] <Ekibyougami> you can activate root
[07:29] <Phr0zenKore> only.... a normal user... with root priveleges?
[07:30] <Ekibyougami> but by default it is deactivated
[07:30] <Phr0zenKore> and the other users are... unpriveleged?
[07:30] <Bentron> if you really want root, just give it a password with 'sudo passwd root'
[07:30] <signius> yeah i concur i think this is a module issue but i an still pretty new to Linux and i do not know much about how to resilve issues in that area
[07:30] <Zoohouse> So ubuntu doesn't support network installations?
[07:30] <Phr0zenKore> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:30] <Phr0zenKore> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:30] <GreenFireD> sn9, if i will remove this, it will remove also openoffice.org2, openoffice.org2.base, ubuntu-desktop ...
[07:30] <helpme> Phr0zenKore: u can login as root....but u'll have to edit a config file....
[07:30] <Phr0zenKore> i wanna apt-get install gftp
[07:30] <Phr0zenKore> :(
[07:30] <nalioth> Phr0zenKore: use sudo
[07:30] <piedamaro> signius, so running 'modprobe airo' earlier at boot could solve the problem
[07:30] <Phr0zenKore> did that.
[07:30] <SpudULike> Hi room - I need to 're-create'  my /home partitions and users.  The UIDs for the exisiting directories start around 501 but I see that the user creation tools in Breezy create users with UIDs starting at 1001.  Is it safe to create new accounts with UIDs that match my existing files or should I go with the default UID and 'chown' my files to match it?
[07:30] <Bentron> Phr0zenKore, sudo apt-get install gftp
[07:30] <sn9> GreenFireD: you will reinstall them later
[07:30] <Phr0zenKore> already did that
[07:30] <Phr0zenKore> get this error:
[07:31] <Phr0zenKore> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:31] <Phr0zenKore> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:31] <sn9> egoleo: are you on i386 or amd64?
[07:31] <Dreamglider> how do i low-level format a disk in ubuntu
[07:31] <nalioth> Phr0zenKore: close all your apt instances (apt-get synaptic, kynaptic, adept, dpkg)
[07:31] <helpme> Phr0zenKore: ur synaptic is open? close and then try
[07:31] <sn9> Dreamglider: a floppy disk?
[07:31] <egoleo> i am on i386
[07:31] <GreenFireD> sn9, Do I must to remove this?
[07:31] <signius> piedamaro if i fire up the laptop thats having this issue can you give me a bit of hand holding to try and resolve this ?
[07:31] <Ekibyougami> Phr0zenKore, is synaptic running?
[07:31] <Bentron> Phr0zenKore, close synaptic?
[07:31] <Dreamglider> sn9, a harddisk
[07:31] <Phr0zenKore> synaptic?
[07:31] <sn9> GreenFireD: yes
[07:31] <Phr0zenKore> what's that?
[07:31] <egoleo> sn9 i am on i368
[07:31] <Ekibyougami> the graphical updater and package tools Phr0zenKore
[07:32] <GreenFireD> ok i will do this later, i g2g. bye
[07:32] <helpme> Phr0zenKore: close all other windows
[07:32] <sn9> Dreamglider: never lowlevel format a hd
[07:32] <Phr0zenKore> wait a min..
[07:32] <Phr0zenKore> i see
[07:32] <Phr0zenKore> add apps is open
[07:32] <Ekibyougami> yup, that would be synaptic
[07:32] <Phr0zenKore> anybody know a good FTP client for ubuntu?
[07:32] <defcon8> how do i use the livecdfor netinstall and also, if i use a hoary hedgehog livecd will i be able to netinstall breezy?
[07:32] <sn9> egoleo: then it should be working. use pastebin to show me your sources.list
[07:32] <egoleo> gftp
[07:32] <Ekibyougami> gftp works pretty good
[07:32] <egoleo> ok
[07:32] <defcon8> ftp works fine man
[07:32] <Phr0zenKore> gftp ain't in the package list
[07:32] <DrSpin> can anyone tell me how to edit the desktop menu???
[07:32] <defcon8> what is wrong with ftp
[07:32] <piedamaro> signius, ok, but it seems I can't do direct chat, let's try...
[07:33] <defcon8> Phr0zenKore, use ftp
[07:33] <Phr0zenKore> defcon8, no support for multiple thigns
[07:33] <Phr0zenKore> things*
[07:33] <defcon8> what like?
[07:33] <Phr0zenKore> i wanna GET one whole list of music
[07:33] <egoleo> i have already pasted it there sn9
[07:33] <Phr0zenKore> from my server
[07:33] <defcon8> umm
[07:33] <Phr0zenKore> so..
[07:33] <signius> How do you mean direct chat ?
[07:33] <defcon8> easy
[07:33] <nalioth> they always run away b4 i can help them
[07:33] <defcon8> learn how to use ls and stuff
[07:33] <HappyFool> nalioth: getting a shrek-complex?
[07:33] <chicken-man> How do i force a file system to unmount ?
[07:33] <sn9> egoleo: the way it is now?
[07:33] <defcon8> signius, /dcc chat defcon8
[07:33] <Mehok> I have not received any help from you yet
[07:33] <flask-> Mehok: join the club :)
[07:34] <herdh> THX Bentron
[07:34] <egoleo> hold on
[07:34] <defcon8> chicken-man, install fuser use fuser to find the process using the device and kill hte process then unmount
[07:34] <Bentron> chicken-man, umount -f but use it carefully :)
[07:34] <defcon8> please cant someome help m e?
[07:34] <Bentron> herdh, no problem
[07:34] <helpme> defcon8: relax...if someone knows theyll answer
[07:34] <Phr0zenKore> defcon8, how to retreive multiple files using the normal ftp, then?
[07:34] <defcon8> im sure they do
[07:34] <mustard5> Mehok, we have shown you a link...in this main chat ...you havent seen it?
[07:34] <Phr0zenKore> i want a whole directory
[07:34] <defcon8> Phr0zenKore, get *
[07:34] <nalioth> HappyFool: you know about fixin multiple javas?
[07:35] <HappyFool> defcon8: i don't know if netinstall has supported: have you checked the wiki ? (wiki.ubuntu.com)
[07:35] <egoleo> i have sent it now
[07:35] <Phr0zenKore> already tried that
[07:35] <zooko> thanks folks, I'll be back if i get stuck again.
[07:35] <HappyFool> nalioth: sorry, no
[07:35] <defcon8> HappyFool, i heard that you can use the livecd to netinstall
[07:35] <Phr0zenKore> ftp> get *
[07:35] <Phr0zenKore> local: audio remote: *
[07:35] <Phr0zenKore> 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
[07:35] <Phr0zenKore> 550 Failed to open file.
[07:35] <sn9> egoleo: url?
[07:35] <defcon8> then
[07:35] <HappyFool> Phr0zenKore: try 'prompt n' and 'mget *'
[07:36] <defcon8> Phr0zenKore, write pasv in ftp
[07:36] <Doclotus> My apologies for asking such a completely newb question, but I really have tried searching through the support files and Wiki. How do I start gnome if 5.10 is only getting to a text prompt?
[07:36] <Phr0zenKore> ftp> pasv
[07:36] <Phr0zenKore> ?Invalid command
[07:36] <HappyFool> Phr0zenKore: gftp is in the 'universe' repository -- you need to enable that before you can install it
[07:36] <sn9> defcon8: i netinstalled breezy, but i bootstrapped from hd
[07:36] <defcon8> Phr0zenKore, wriet help in ftp and look for something like passive
[07:36] <nalioth> Phr0zenKore: pasting? no polite
[07:36] <Phr0zenKore> HappyFool: where?
[07:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Phr0zenKore about paste
[07:36] <Bentron> Doclotus, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:36] <Ekibyougami> doc, try startx
[07:36] <defcon8> sn9, i think i will just dl the cd :)
[07:36] <signius> piedamaro
[07:36] <Phr0zenKore> oh err sorry
[07:37] <HappyFool> !tell Phr0zenKore about repos
[07:37] <theD3viL> I can set locales with dpkg-reconfigure locales for whole system, but i cant set it for XMMS! What could be wrong?
[07:37] <signius> piedamaro ok i got the lappy fired up
[07:37] <Phr0zenKore> forgot using paste bot
[07:37] <Phr0zenKore> XD
[07:37] <datarelease> is there something i need to download to get make to work?
[07:37] <sn9> egoleo: url?
[07:37] <Ekibyougami> !tell datarelease about build-essential
[07:37] <Ekibyougami> bah, its not in there
[07:38] <piedamaro> signius, ok, do you have a jabber account or something?
[07:38] <CarlFK> I moved a drive with unbuntu installed on it from one laptop to another - different video, so X didn't start.  what do I run to reconfig X?
[07:38] <Ekibyougami> xorgconfig
[07:38] <signius> i have got msn or yahoo
[07:38] <CarlFK> thanks
[07:39] <Phr0zenKore> hmm i'm beginning to like ubuntu
[07:39] <piedamaro> signius, gimmw your msn nick
[07:39] <defcon8> i still want to stay on fbsd :( dunno if its worth the hassle just to change distro
[07:40] <defcon8> i mean in the end its all the same progs
[07:40] <Ekibyougami> i've been liking ubuntu since i discovered warty
[07:40] <monstah> anyone installed enlightenment DR17 on breezy?
[07:40] <ttaranto> how do I configure my ubuntu 5.10 to start with XUBUBTU
[07:40] <Phr0zenKore> are there other ubuntu skins?
[07:40] <JairunCaloth> clear
[07:40] <Ekibyougami> Phr0zenKore, you can download gnome themes
[07:41] <Alex_BO> HELLO!does anybody know a program to make cover and label for CD/DVD?
[07:41] <sn9> ttaranto: did you install xubuntu-desktop?
[07:41] <defcon8> Phr0zenKore, bloody hell man
[07:41] <signius> try /join #signius
[07:41] <defcon8> you think gnome is only on ubuntu
[07:41] <Bentron> monstah, not using debs, but yeah... I think the forum has a howto for e17 if you're running x86
[07:41] <defcon8> cmone learn some stuff
[07:41] <Phr0zenKore> defcon8, NO
[07:41] <Phr0zenKore> i don't think that
[07:41] <Phr0zenKore> i only wanna know, if ubuntu has more official themes
[07:41] <egoleo> sn9
[07:41] <CarlFK> rats - xorgconf doens't detect my video card
[07:41] <defcon8> they arent called skins either
[07:41] <egoleo> what
[07:41] <JairunCaloth> how can I tell what kernel I'm running. I need to install the  source so I can recompile my video drivers
[07:41] <defcon8> yeah themes
[07:41] <dReadMoRe> is there any ubuntu guide like it was in 5.04 version!? or its the same guide!?
[07:41] <sn9> egoleo: url?
[07:41] <Phr0zenKore> i mean, other colors than brown
[07:41] <CarlFK> isn't there a debconf thing that does the same thing that the ubuntu setup does?
[07:41] <defcon8> Phr0zenKore, change the colours then
[07:41] <nalioth> ttaranto: when you log in at the gui login, click 'sessions' and choose it
[07:41] <Bentron> JairunCaloth, uname -r
[07:41] <egoleo> what url
[07:42] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: try 'uname -r'. You probably want the linux-headers-386 (or -686 or -k7) packages
[07:42] <sn9> egoleo: the url to your new pastebin
[07:42] <monstah> Bentron: url?
[07:42] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: also, on ubuntu 5.10, you'll need gcc-3.4 for kernel module compiling
[07:42] <Bentron> monstah, I'll have to find it, gimme a second
[07:42] <playest> hello !
[07:42] <JairunCaloth> I'll want -686 since I'm on a P-IV right?
[07:42] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: only if you've installed the -686 kernel
[07:42] <pabloesc> JairunCaloth, right :D
[07:42] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: default is -386
[07:42] <JairunCaloth> ok, I'll leave that alone till I get out of shell mode
[07:42] <playest> i want to burn anything on a CD with K3B but it's for a friends who use windows ...
[07:42] <monstah> Bentron: yeh.. thanks :)
[07:43] <Rockett`> it is just regular 686 for a 2gig Celeron right?
[07:43] <playest> it's possible ?
[07:43] <nalioth> playest: cd's burned with k3b work on anything. they are standardized
[07:43] <ttaranto> nalioths thanks!
[07:43] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: bear in mind you'll need to recompile the modules for the -686 kernel (not a big deal, but can be confusing if you forget)
[07:44] <sn9> !tell datarelease about repos
[07:44] <Mehok> I have done that and when i try to play a file such as a video or an mp3 i get this error why Totem could not play 'file:///media/128 GB Disk (hda1)/Documents and Settings/Meho 3601/My Documents/limewire downloads/masterbation Girl squirts twice cums very hard female ejaculation amazing.mpg'
[07:44] <playest> nalioth, are you sure ? ... no option to active ???
[07:44] <defcon8> hoqw come ubuntu only has gnome 2.10?
[07:44] <defcon8> and not 2.12
[07:44] <nalioth> playest: i'm not sure i understand what you want to do
[07:44] <nalioth> defcon8: breezy has 2.12
[07:44] <rem_> hey, I did apt-get install linux-image-686smp on a p4 3ghz hyperthreading, rebooted and now gnome's toolbar icons are gone, mouse frozen, and keyboard gone ... ?!
[07:45] <Sybil> sn9.. update on my mouse which was not working. I installed ubuntu and for some reason ps/2 mouse is working. just wanted to thank you for your help
[07:45] <defcon8> nalioth, packages.ubuntu.com lies
[07:45] <playest> nalioth, well i test ...
[07:45] <Rebuilding> on installation: KERNEL PANIC (NOT SYNCING) - fatal exception on interrupt. i've tried with nero and alex feinman isorecorder: the result is the same. i've tried with cd-rw and cd-r: the resulte is again the same... what can i do?
[07:45] <sn9> Sybil: yw
[07:45] <Rebuilding> (ubuntu 5.10)
[07:45] <Bentron> monstah, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61488   I think it was written for hoary, so not sure how applicable it is for breezy.  I think I tried it and found out the amd64 packages weren't really there or something.  Far easier to just build it from cvs, imo.
[07:45] <dReadMoRe> where is the ubuntu guide for 5.10 version!?
[07:45] <Sybil> now I can start having fun :)
[07:45] <HappyFool> !tell dReadMoRe about faq
[07:45] <sn9> !tell dReadMoRe about faq
[07:46] <Mehok> can someone help me
[07:46] <dReadMoRe> tks :)
[07:46] <egoleo> i have sent it again sn9
[07:46] <Doclotus> Bentron, I tried that sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start and I get command not found
[07:46] <sn9> egoleo: what is the url to your new pastebin?
[07:46] <egoleo> so check
[07:46] <monstah> Bentron: ok :)
[07:46] <nalioth> Heijmen: if you ask a question
[07:46] <Rebuilding> on installation (ubuntu 5.10): KERNEL PANIC (NOT SYNCING) - fatal exception on interrupt. i've tried with nero and alex feinman isorecorder: the result is the same. i've tried with cd-rw and cd-r: the resulte is again the same... what can i do?
[07:47] <egoleo> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3249
[07:47] <Bentron> Doclotus, try just 'sudo gdm' then.  If it says it can't find that then gdm isn't installed and you'll have to install it (though I thought it was part of the ubuntu-desktop metapackage)
[07:47] <sn9> egoleo: thanx
[07:47] <HappyFool> Rebuilding: at what point in the install?
[07:47] <Doclotus> I'm beginning to think it wasn't installed, I'll give that a try though, thank you.
[07:47] <nalioth> Rebuilding: please wait more then 1 minute between repeats of the same question. if your answer isnt here, repeating isnt gonna bring it any faster
[07:48] <Rebuilding> HappyFool: at kernel loading
[07:48] <Rebuilding> i'm sorry nalioth :(
[07:48] <topyli> Rebuilding: have you checked the md5sums of your downloaded image?
[07:48] <Rebuilding> yes, it's correct
[07:48] <theD3viL> I can set locales with dpkg-reconfigure locales for whole system, but i cant set it for XMMS! What could be wrong? please i need it!
[07:49] <sn9> egoleo: try "sudo apt-get update" again, and look at if it hits that server
[07:49] <HappyFool> Rebuilding: before the kernel loads you should get a series of help screens (accessible with F1-F10), which list boot parameters. try the 'linux noapic nolapic'  -- the exact option is listed
[07:49] <topyli> Rebuilding: could also be that you have to burn it at something like 4x. i made a few coasters at work with max speed
[07:49] <egoleo> ok
[07:49] <Rebuilding> topyli, i've burned at 16x
[07:50] <topyli> Rebuilding: HappyFool might be the one with the clue here :)
[07:50] <HappyFool> just a guess
[07:50] <HappyFool> Rebuilding: there are other 'disable' flags you can try, listed in the help pages
[07:50] <Rebuilding> HappyFool: 'linux noapic nolapic' on boot?
[07:50] <topyli> Rebuilding: what sort of machine is this?
[07:50] <nitricacid> hello
[07:50] <HappyFool> Rebuilding: check the help pages
[07:50] <egoleo> ok is done
[07:50] <egoleo> so what next
[07:50] <nalioth> Rebuilding: check your burnt cd-r?
[07:51] <Rebuilding> topyli, amd athlon 2000+
[07:51] <sn9> egoleo: did it say that it hit acm.cs.umn.edu?
[07:51] <egoleo> yes
[07:51] <Rebuilding> nalioth, i've tried with two different cds
[07:51] <egoleo> is done
[07:52] <JairunCaloth> happyfool: I need to downgrade my gcc version?
[07:52] <sn9> egoleo: try "sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2" again
[07:52] <topyli> Rebuilding: your motherboard might be hostile to the acpi stuff, so HappyFool's boot options just might help in that case
[07:52] <egoleo> is working now
[07:52] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: no, just install gcc-3.4 as well
[07:52] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: the only kernel module i had to build used it automatically
[07:52] <nalioth> Rebuilding: ubuntu cds for some reason need to be burned very slowly
[07:52] <Rebuilding> 'linux noapic nolapic' ?
[07:52] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: otherwise you can use 'make CC=gcc-3.4' or similar
[07:52] <egoleo> thnx sn9
[07:52] <egoleo> so what again
[07:52] <HappyFool> Rebuilding: i think so, but i'm not sure. the precise arguments are in those help pages
[07:52] <JairunCaloth> why won't the gcc-4.0 I have work?
[07:52] <Bentron> does anybody have an idea why I would be getting no input from my ps2 controller (through a ps2 usb adapter) by checking with cat /dev/input/js0?
[07:53] <Bentron> the device is created and destroyed when I unplug it/plug it in
[07:53] <Rebuilding> excuse me HappyFool, which url?
[07:53] <topyli> nalioth: i have this experience too. 4x seems to be ok
[07:53] <TheGeek> quick question: /dev/sda2 "/media/40 Gig" ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0 (in /etc/fstab) <-- why doesn't it work when the folder has spaces in its name?
[07:53] <Bentron> amd64 breezy
[07:53] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: cos the kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4. you can try with gcc-4.0, but i got a 'incompatible format' or similar error when i tried to load the module
[07:53] <JairunCaloth> ah
[07:53] <HappyFool> Rebuilding: i can look for help pages, but i meant the ones that appear at boot when using the install cd, before the kernel loads
[07:53] <JairunCaloth> it tells me gcc-3.4 is the newest version. But the NVIDIA installer says I have 4.0
[07:54] <sn9> TheGeek: use a \
[07:54] <TheGeek> thx
[07:54] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: you don't want to use the ubuntu packaged nvidia drivers?
[07:54] <nalioth> TheGeek: *nix doesnt like spaces
[07:54] <Bentron> TheGeek, replace "/media/40 Gig" with: /media/40\ Gig
[07:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell TheGeek about cli
[07:54] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: try 'CC=gcc-3.4 <install-command>'
[07:54] <egoleo> sn9 what next
[07:55] <Tonni> i requested some cds from shipit.ubuntulinux.org after it has reopened for 5.10. which version has been sent to me? 5.10 final or RC1?
[07:55] <sn9> egoleo: did it install?
[07:55] <egoleo> yes
[07:55] <nalioth> JairunCaloth: try "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" <enter> and then run your commands
[07:55] <JairunCaloth> I get better performance by upgradeing them, though I don't even know what version breezy is using
[07:55] <egoleo> but my sound
[07:55] <sn9> egoleo: try to play a dvd
[07:55] <nalioth> Tonni: breezy
[07:55] <frank23> Tonni: final
[07:55] <egoleo> dvd is not working
[07:55] <TheGeek> thx everyone
[07:55] <sn9> egoleo: still?
[07:55] <egoleo> yes
[07:55] <egoleo> is working
[07:56] <egoleo> is coming
[07:56] <Tonni> sure? i think it said "sent to shipping company" right after RC1 has been released
[07:56] <egoleo> now
[07:56] <egoleo> but sound is not coming
[07:56] <borgista> Anybody now how to get the gmail-notifier applet going?
[07:56] <borgista> I already installed it.
[07:56] <sn9> egoleo: do you have sound elsewhere?
[07:56] <Rebuilding> HappyFool, i've installed the same ubuntu with the iso (using dameon tools) on vmware yesterday, it didn't cause any sort of problem yesterday, by the way now i try first to pass parameters on boot, then i'll try to burn cd at 4x
[07:57] <rempresent> i need to play .mov files from the apple trailers site, how do i install them
[07:57] <borgista> rempresten...you need mplayer & the proper codecs
[07:57] <Rebuilding> thanks at all, i surely return later.
[07:57] <HappyFool> Rebuilding: maybe vmware hides some of the hardware from linux; i'm not familiar with it
[07:57] <nalioth> rempresent: install libquicktime0, and all your faac and faad libs
[07:57] <Rebuilding> ok HappyFool.
[07:57] <JairunCaloth> That did the trick
[07:57] <JairunCaloth> :)
[07:57] <nalioth> rempresent: use synaptic and make sure your repos are enabled
[07:58] <Rebuilding> si io leiter.
[07:58] <CosmoDad> does anyone have a HP nc6120 and can tell me what the quality of the LCD is like?
[07:58] <sn9> egoleo: do you have sound elsewhere?
[07:59] <seppi> hallo
[07:59] <fab__> bonjour
[07:59] <sn9> !fr
[07:59] <ubotu> methinks fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:59] <seppi> ol je sais meme pas ce que je fait la !! lol
[07:59] <seppi> test$
[07:59] <fab__> ok merci
[07:59] <hendrik> i get this error what must i do FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitte
[08:00] <seppi> il se passe quoi ICI ?
[08:00] <`Evil> Hello
[08:00] <redeeman> hello
[08:00] <redeeman> can the ubuntu livecd install ubuntu?
[08:00] <seppi> donc je disais il se passe quoi de bO ici ?
[08:00] <IcemanV9> CosmoDad: i have 2 hp notebooks (ze5185 & n5430) .. the LCD is very good .. what's the problem on yours?
[08:00] <Doclotus> Has anyone installed 5.10 on an IBM Thinkpad T41?
[08:01] <nalioth> seppi: ingles ici, franais en #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait
[08:01] <borgista> seppi...allez  #ubuntu-fr
[08:01] <Bentron> hendrik, are you loading it manually or is that message printed during bootup?
[08:01] <topyli> redeeman: no
[08:01] <borgista> nalioth: ingles = anglais?
[08:01] <seppi> sorry
[08:01] <hendrik> in the terminal window
[08:01] <sn9> Bentron: he's loading manually
[08:01] <nalioth> borgista: i get so mixed up, i speak too many langs
[08:01] <Bentron> hendrik, sudo modprobe <module name>
[08:01] <egoleo> thnx sn9
[08:01] <Bentron> ?
[08:01] <rempresent> thanks
[08:02] <egoleo> everthing is working
[08:02] <egoleo> i love linux
[08:02] <herdh> mplayer compilled very well
[08:02] <borgista> nalioth: understood
[08:02] <`Evil> can someone help please .. when i'm trying to install Ubuntu breezy, on my PC it says that the CROM driver is not recognized , how can i do to install breezy then?
[08:02] <hendrik> what do you mean with <module name>
[08:02] <sn9> `Evil: are you an a laptop?
[08:02] <topyli> egoleo: everything is working? back up your /etc :)
[08:02] <`Evil> no sn9
[08:02] <Rebuilding> 'linux noapic nolapic' didn't product any effect :( i just try now with 4x burning...
[08:03] <Bentron> hendrik, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:03] <topyli> Rebuilding: keep on hacking :)
[08:03] <Belutz> `Evil, does your cdrom is connected to a raid ide ?
[08:03] <egoleo> how
[08:03] <egoleo> how do u mean
[08:03] <sn9> `Evil: is the cd drive ATA, SCSI, SATA, or USB or 1394?
[08:03] <`Evil> yes Belutz
[08:03] <hendrik> and then i get this error FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:04] <sn9> `Evil: reconnect it to the normal IDE
[08:04] <rempresent> alright, when i try to play video from a .mov on a browser, it doesn't work, do i need to get a plugin for mozilla
[08:04] <Belutz> `Evil, that happens to me too... i still can't figure it out
[08:04] <topyli> egoleo: sudo tar czvf etc-saveass-backup.tar.gz /etc :)
[08:04] <egoleo> why
[08:04] <nalioth> rempresent: mplayer mozilla plugin
[08:04] <Doclotus> Bentron I think my issue with Gnome is hardware compatibility. It appears that Ubuntu didn't install any xwindows system. Any suggestions?
[08:04] <egoleo> why that
[08:04] <borgista> rempresent: also, uninstall gstreamer-totem
[08:05] <topyli> egoleo: when something breaks, you restore your working configuration from this backup'
[08:05] <Bentron> Doclotus, didn't install xorg at all? O.o
[08:05] <Doclotus> Not that I could tell. How would I check to be certain?
[08:05] <Ekibyougami> whereis xorg
[08:05] <egoleo> but why that backup name
[08:05] <borgista> Ekibyougami: what do you mean?
[08:05] <borgista> The .conf file?
[08:05] <hendrik> bentron, i get this error FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:05] <topyli> egoleo: oh, that's just a suggestion =)
[08:05] <Ekibyougami> no, i was telling Doclotus to send that command
[08:06] <Bentron> hendrik, you get that when using sudo also?
[08:06] <egoleo> ok
[08:06] <egoleo> i will do that
[08:06] <topyli> egoleo: but it will be something.tar.gz, because it's a gzipped tar archive
[08:06] <Bentron> Doclotus, whereis Xorg
[08:06] <Doclotus> Ok, it found that
[08:06] <egoleo> i will check on the ubuntuguide
[08:06] <sn9> Bentron: yes, that's what hendrik did
[08:06] <egoleo> and i will do it
[08:06] <egoleo> so why do u tell me
[08:06] <topyli> egoleo: don't. ubuntuguide is inaccurate
[08:06] <borgista> If you want to configure xorg...go do: sudo nano  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:07] <sn9> egoleo: do not look at the ubuntuguide site
[08:07] <hendrik> yes, Bentron i used sudo all the time that is the only program i get to now
[08:07] <egoleo> okl sn9
[08:07] <rem_> linux-image-686 seems to work better than 686smp with hyperthreading ... :P
[08:07] <hendrik> know i mean
[08:07] <egoleo> is what he is saying right? sn9
[08:07] <topyli> egoleo: besides, they don't have this kind of useful information IIRC. if you want to learn, study the tar manual page
[08:07] <sn9> egoleo: yes
[08:07] <Rebuilding> my burner doesn't support 4x :( bad lucky :''(
[08:08] <CosmoDad> IcemanV9: sry I was away for a moment... I don't even have a nc6120 yet, but I'm planning to do so. Heard that the nc6120's LCDs aren't that good, however
[08:08] <HappyFool> maybe you can use 'Archive Manager' to do backups rather than reading 'man tar' ;)
[08:08] <egoleo> ok
[08:08] <Bentron> hendrik, hmm... that's strange.  I can't think of a reason why it'd be saying operation not permitted...
[08:08] <egoleo> so how small is tar
[08:08] <egoleo> than zip
[08:08] <Bentron> hendrik, is there maybe another module loaded that's using the adapter?
[08:08] <MrGreen> Anyone out there help us with ubuntu live cd ?
[08:08] <egoleo> can i get the command again
[08:09] <JairunCaloth> yay, officialy breezy now :)
[08:09] <frontier> whats up mrgreen?
[08:09] <IcemanV9> CosmoDad: hmm .. why don't you try livecd 1st before you go crazy when things did not go well :)
[08:09] <sn9> Bentron: hendrik had the amd64 ubuntu installed and i told him to try i386
[08:09] <Doclotus> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf resulted in a blank file
[08:09] <Bentron> oh
[08:09] <matthew_w> Hey there - if I add the "noauto" option to my hard drives in /etc/fstab, will the hard drives appear on my desktop like floppies or cd's do?
[08:09] <egoleo> sn9
[08:09] <Doclotus> there was no X11 directory in etc prior
[08:09] <egoleo> can i get a program to rip dvd
[08:09] <Doclotus> I checked earlier
[08:09] <borgista> Doclotus...you may have to reconfigure  your XORG
[08:09] <MrGreen> frontier: CD loads ok ... but then I get to GDM I just get a brown screen
[08:10] <p01n7bl4nk> Don't know if it's just my sound card....but, when ever another application tried to output sound...xmms complains...and doesn't continue playing ( only when swicthing songs )
[08:10] <IcemanV9> CosmoDad: however, i think it will be fine unless something tells you it is not.
[08:10] <MrGreen> mouse works but nothing else
[08:10] <nalioth> egoleo: tar doesnt compress, just encloses
[08:10] <Doclotus> Unfortunately I have no idea how to do that
[08:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell egoleo about cli
[08:10] <egoleo> can i get a program to rip dvd and vcd?
[08:10] <sn9> egoleo: there is a program called dvdbackup
[08:10] <frontier> hey guys any idea why under ubuntu my upload speed to the internet is getting limited?
[08:10] <nalioth> egoleo: dvdrip
[08:10] <demism> does anyone know if xfree86 has radeon 9600 support?
[08:10] <HappyFool> dvd and cd ripping is covered in the breezy faq, i believe
[08:10] <Bentron> Doclotus, you'll need to install xorg and gnome then
[08:10] <Ekibyougami> xf86 is kinda long gone
[08:10] <hendrik> bentron so i installed the 32-bit card
[08:10] <CosmoDad> IcemanV9: I've been to local computer stores but I wasn't able to find any selling the nc6120
[08:10] <Bentron> hendrik, are you trying to load an x86 module into a 64-bit kernel?
[08:10] <Ankka> how do I force an application to install, even though it doesn't itself recognize a dependance being installed?
[08:11] <sn9> Bentron: not anymore
[08:11] <CosmoDad> IcemanV9: actually, I'm hot on that nc6120 because it's said to be almost fully supported by ubuntu
[08:11] <MrGreen> frontier: CD loads ok ... but then I get to GDM I just get a brown screen
[08:11] <topyli> egoleo: sorry, i just finished eating and went out for a little puff. :) anyway, it's tar czvf etc-backup.tar.gz /etc
[08:11] <topyli> egoleo: i'll explain
[08:11] <CosmoDad> IcemanV9: it's one of those HP published to make completely linux-compatible... what's your HP like?
[08:11] <egoleo> ok
[08:11] <hendrik> not anymore then i m just a beginner in linux and i would like it wireless
[08:11] <CosmoDad> IcemanV9: concerning hardware-support, e.g. WLAN, Bluetooth, buttons, etc.
[08:11] <egoleo> hold on
[08:12] <egoleo> what is the source
[08:12] <egoleo> and target of this tar
[08:12] <hender> hey guys
[08:12] <Ekibyougami> my acer laptop works fully in ubuntu
[08:12] <MrGreen> Anyone know how to get live cd working .?
[08:12] <Ekibyougami> it took a bit of hacking though
[08:12] <helpme> where can i find a howto for enabling extra repos for breezy?? for things like jre, w32codecs etc..
[08:12] <hender> I have a minor problem with my breezy installation
[08:12] <Rebuilding> which filsystem is more recomended? ext3, xfs or reiserfs?
[08:12] <topyli> egoleo: tar is the command, c=create archive, z=zip (compress) it, v=verbose (tell me what's going on), f=here comes the filename of the archive i want, archive filename, source directory
[08:12] <frontier> MrGreen: weird, I know when I tried the live CD it was slow as dog
[08:12] <hender> Rebuilding, ext3 is default
[08:12] <Ekibyougami> !tell helpme about repos
[08:12] <nalioth> helpme: those are illegal for ubuntu to officially distribute
[08:12] <MrGreen> it loads to gdm then stops
[08:12] <Rebuilding> hender: kernel panic?
[08:12] <nalioth> !tell helpme about java
[08:13] <MrGreen> I get log in wave then nothing
[08:13] <nalioth> !tell helpme about w32codecs
[08:13] <IcemanV9> CosmoDad: well, everything works except a few hot keys, suspend/resume, acpi (doesn't update very good)
[08:13] <Bentron> hendrik, not sure... it really shouldn't be giving you that error if you're using sudo to execute modprobe
[08:13] <hender> Rebuilding: ubuntu forgets my networking settings
[08:13] <sn9> !tell helpme about javadeb
[08:13] <egoleo> any program to rip dvd and vcd
[08:13] <MrGreen> well I'll have to try gentoo thne
[08:13] <Bentron> hendrik, even if it was a module built for a different kernel version, it should tell you as much, not just say it's not permitted
[08:13] <CosmoDad> IcemanV9: doesn't sound too well... that's why I wanna have this particular model
[08:13] <IcemanV9> CosmoDad: that is with hoary, not breezy
[08:13] <helpme> egoleo: acidrip, dvdrip
[08:13] <CosmoDad> IcemanV9: oh ok
[08:14] <hender> everytime I boot ubuntu, it fails to connect to the network, and the eth0 is activated instead of wlan0
[08:14] <egoleo> so can u give me the command
[08:14] <sn9> Bentron: i suggested he seek help in #ndiswrapper
[08:14] <CosmoDad> what's the channel bot's name?
[08:14] <nalioth> egoleo: several people have answered you and now they are repeating the answers
[08:14] <hender> (when I check the networking)
[08:14] <helpme> thanks nalioth & sn9.....this channel is better than #kubuntu.....i asked the same question there twice but got no response
[08:14] <hendrik> i get this before the problem
[08:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell CosmoDad about yourself
[08:14] <hendrik> Usage: ndiswrapper OPTION
[08:14] <hendrik> Manage ndis drivers for ndiswrapper.
[08:14] <hendrik> -i inffile        Install driver described by 'inffile'
[08:14] <hendrik> -d devid driver   Use installed 'driver' for 'devid'
[08:14] <hendrik> -e driver         Remove 'driver'
[08:14] <egoleo> ok
[08:14] <hendrik> -l                List installed drivers
[08:14] <Rebuilding> hender: wi-fi?
[08:14] <hendrik> -m                Write configuration for modprobe
[08:14] <IcemanV9> CosmoDad: i did not want to upgrade to breezy yet until i get a new hd on another machine to backup my important stuff. :)
[08:14] <hender> Rebuilding: yeah, with a wireless usb dongle
[08:15] <borgista> hender: Make wlan0 the default gateway in Networking.
[08:15] <hender> borgista: I've tried, but it still does the same thing
[08:15] <hender> borgista: I can try it again, though
[08:15] <borgista> Manually edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[08:15] <CosmoDad> IcemanV9: is upgrading to breezy that "dangerous"?
[08:15] <hender> borgista: is that safe?
[08:15] <borgista> replace all instances of eth0 with wlan0
[08:15] <CosmoDad> IcemanV9: you know, I haven't used ubuntu yet, only debian
[08:15] <hender> ok
[08:15] <borgista> Make a back up copy first
[08:15] <egoleo> acidrip
[08:15] <egoleo> can find package
[08:16] <hender> thanks a lot, I'll try it
[08:16] <egoleo> can't find package acidrip and dvdrip
[08:16] <MrGreen> Can anyone help me with live cd please?
[08:16] <borgista> Must go....ciao!
[08:16] <helpme> its in universe repo i think...did u enable that?
[08:16] <egoleo> yes
[08:16] <IcemanV9> CosmoDad: no, it is not dangerous .. just heard a few horrible stories about upgrading. that's all. i cannot just lose my important stuff. i rather to play safe.
[08:16] <Dreamglider> MrGreen, just boot it mate !
[08:17] <MrGreen> Dreamglider: done that ...
[08:17] <Dreamglider> MrGreen, and ?
[08:17] <MrGreen> Dreamglider: just get a brown screen
[08:17] <CosmoDad> IcemanV9: I see... rsnapshot is a nice tool for automatic backups, btw :)
[08:17] <IcemanV9> CosmoDad: i have test it a few times with breezy liveCD; it works beautiful.
[08:17] <MrGreen> Dreamglider: mouse moves
[08:17] <MrGreen> Dreamglider: nothing else
[08:17] <JairunCaloth> I had a very smooth breezy upgrade
[08:17] <Dreamglider> MrGreen, well it takes a while to load
[08:17] <cevizoglu> so did I, on three different machines  :)
[08:18] <MrGreen> Dreamglider: I got start up wave
[08:18] <Dreamglider> MrGreen, how much RAM do you have ?
[08:18] <MrGreen> Dreamglider: 512
[08:18] <IcemanV9> CosmoDad: i use rsync in a bash script .. easy :)
[08:18] <Rebuilding> is it possible that ubuntu dislike my usb controller?
[08:18] <Dreamglider> fast ?
[08:18] <hender> thanks, I'll try rebooting now and see how it went
[08:18] <jackster> could someone help? me and my friend are having some trouble with VNC
[08:19] <MrGreen> Dreamglider: 64bit
[08:19] <helpme> is there a nice KDE-looking theme for Ubuntu? I wanna use ubuntu but its look puts me off......no offence intended
[08:19] <jackster> he wantys to connect to my comp, but im having trouble with the server
[08:19] <Dreamglider> weerd it should "just work"
[08:19] <MrGreen> Dreamglider: Is ther a way of getting to log in prompt?
[08:19] <sandollar> hi all i have ubuntu RC do i need to update to an official release and if so how
[08:19] <jackster> helpme: use Kubuntu
[08:19] <CosmoDad> IcemanV9: that's basically what rsnapshot does, but you get a nice "interface" (config file), but I'll not try to convince you :)
[08:19] <helpme>  is there a nice KDE-looking theme for Ubuntu?
[08:19] <jackster> or goto synaptuic and dwnload 'kubuntu-desktop'
[08:20] <helpme> jackster: i find gnome faster than kde
[08:20] <Ankka> how do I force an application to install, even though it doesn't itself recognize a dependance being installed?
[08:20] <fredmorcos> hey guys
[08:20] <jackster> o, ok
[08:20] <Dreamglider> i dont know mate, im a newbie
[08:20] <sn9> sandollar: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:20] <JairunCaloth> Maybe i just missed it before but is the services settings GUI new?
[08:20] <egoleo> dvdrip, cli,
[08:20] <egoleo> all not installing
[08:20] <fredmorcos> need help setting up samba
[08:20] <MrGreen> Dreamglider: you no nub! you are the man
[08:20] <Dreamglider> Hehe
[08:20] <Dreamglider> or that yea :)
[08:21] <MrGreen> .leave
[08:21] <Dreamglider> i newer tried the Ubuntu livecd
[08:21] <jackster> anyone want to help me setup a VNC server, please?
[08:21] <Dreamglider> ok.
[08:21] <CosmoDad> IcemanV9: how does one upgrade from Hoary to Breezy? is it like in Debian with apt-get/aptitude dist-upgrade or something different?
[08:21] <egoleo> or how do i install them
[08:21] <helpme> egoleo: did u install dvdrip? acidrip is better
[08:21] <helpme> !info acidrip
[08:21] <ubotu> acidrip: (ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.14-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 53 kB, Installed size: 276 kB
[08:22] <egoleo> i did sudo apt-get install dvdrip
[08:22] <egoleo> but it says can't find package
[08:22] <levander> CosmoDad: surely there's something about that on wiki.ubuntu.com that explains in more detail than you'll get here
[08:22] <IcemanV9> !tell CosmoDad about upgrade
[08:22] <egoleo> and also acidrip
[08:22] <egoleo> so how
[08:22] <Dreamglider> jackster System -> Preferences -> Remote desktop
[08:22] <CosmoDad> cool thx
[08:23] <IcemanV9> CosmoDad: fairly easy once you read the link from ubotu's pm
[08:23] <helpme> type acidrip in terminal
[08:23] <helpme> dvdrip too
[08:23] <jackster> dreamglider: ive done that, but when my friend tries to connect, he gets refused
[08:24] <Ayiden> Hi, im in a bit of a predicament... I have 3 packages that need THEMSELVES to install One needs the other and the other the one before... arg***
[08:24] <sn9> jackster: are you behind a router?
[08:24] <Ayiden> libxi-dev libxext-dev and x11proto-xext-dev
[08:24] <signius> OK looks like the kernel developer have managed to break the cisco drivers in 2.6.12
[08:24] <signius> well done chaps
[08:24] <jackster> yes, but im not aware that i have any ports blocked
[08:24] <Dreamglider> ok, well i have it working inside my lan i have not tried outsind it
[08:24] <jackster> and i was able to connect to him
[08:24] <CosmoDad> IcemanV9: yeah it's basically just like a different debian branch
[08:24] <Ayiden> how can I install them if each one of thm need the other as a dependency?
[08:24] <helpme> egoleo: did it work? im leaving...nite all
[08:25] <Remmelas> is there a better console chat client than xchat-text?  I'm thinking something perhaps curses based so you can have some features like user lists, scrollable windows, etc.
[08:25] <egoleo> is not working
[08:25] <sn9> Ayiden: what are you installing?
[08:25] <egoleo> can u help me b4
[08:25] <egoleo> to install one ripper for dvd and vcd
[08:25] <jasonb_> i worked on my c code in windows compiled and was running fine... then i took the source and it compiled ok in linux... problem is when i run i get a segmentation fault... what do you guys think could be the most probable cause? thanks!
[08:25] <sn9> Remmelas: irssi
[08:25] <signius> is bitchx curses based
[08:25] <hender> hey again guys
[08:26] <chiel> hi all
[08:26] <IcemanV9> :)
[08:26] <ajeet> Hello, I've never had this problem with XP or SuSE, but I'm finding my internet connection cutting out a lot with Ubuntu, is this a driver problem?
[08:26] <hender> now my system boots blazingly fast, but it still doesn't connect to the internet correctly :)
[08:26] <Remmelas> thanks sn9
[08:26] <jackster> so, has anyone got any advice on VNC?
[08:26] <signius> what kind of intenet connection do you have
[08:26] <hender> wifi
[08:26] <signius> is it an USB connection ?
[08:26] <helpme> egoleo: did u try apt-get install acidrip??
[08:26] <sn9> jackster: you need to open some kind of ports
[08:26] <egoleo> yes
[08:27] <jareth_> downloaded breezy, installed it, dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg and it  worked!!!! :)
[08:27] <ajeet> signius: yes it is
[08:27] <hender> my original problem (I thought) was that it didn't default to connecting via wlan0
[08:27] <Remmelas> hmm, Package irssi has no installation candidate
[08:27] <chiel> question.. I am really new at this.. does nyone know how to get an dvd play software and how to install it?  :)
[08:27] <helpme> then type acidrip in terminal
[08:27] <egoleo> sudo apt-get install acidrip
[08:27] <Ayiden> I need to get the kernel sources and compiling things working.. and these three packages are my wall... They are used by other packages whcih in turn lead to others in a chain.. I need these 3 to finish everything up... libxi libxext-dev and then x11proto-xext-dev.. I have to do it manually because I cannot access apt-get because my modems drivers arnt installed.. I have to finish all these to be able to install them *(lol)
[08:27] <jackster> sn9: which one(s)
[08:27] <egoleo> Reading package lists... Done
[08:27] <egoleo> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:27] <egoleo> E: Couldn't find package acidrip
[08:27] <helpme> quick...ive to leave
[08:27] <rempresent> is there any way to download videos from any webpage, does anyone know how to do this, like grab one from a website, any website
[08:27] <sn9> Remmelas: did you enable all repositories?
[08:27] <sandollar> sn9:  it only upgraded 2 pakages
[08:28] <helpme> !info acidrip
[08:28] <ubotu> acidrip: (ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.14-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 53 kB, Installed size: 276 kB
[08:28] <Ayiden> How can I force them to install but at the same time have them configure as well?
[08:28] <Ayiden> without apt-get?
[08:28] <egoleo> sudo apt-get install acidrip
[08:28] <Remmelas> sn9: yeah, was my bad, looks like the package name is irssi-text
[08:28] <hender> so I was told to replace all instances of eth0 with wlan0 in /etc/networking/interfaces with wlan0, and it works, except that ubuntu doesn't actually activate the connection, only defaults to and as far as I can tell configures it
[08:28] <egoleo> Reading package lists... Done
[08:28] <egoleo> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:28] <egoleo> E: Couldn't find package acidrip
[08:28] <IcemanV9> egoleo: you did not enable ALL repos
[08:28] <helpme> egoleo: its in multiverse
[08:28] <sn9> sandollar: did you disable any repositories?
[08:28] <exoddus> any spanish ?
[08:28] <signius> then i would suspect that is your problem i am not familiar enough with USB driver under linux to help btu this problem does occur under windows also its a problem with networking and usb...........USB was never designed as a networking bus and it frequently causes prblem under *nix and winbloze
[08:28] <sn9> !es
[08:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:28] <hender> any help is good help
[08:28] <hender> :)
[08:28] <ompaul> jasonb_, what command line did you use to compile?
[08:28] <signius> it maybe a power issue
[08:28] <Ayiden>  I need to get the kernel sources and compiling things working.. and these three packages are my wall... They are used by other packages whcih in turn lead to others in a chain.. I need these 3 to finish everything up... libxi libxext-dev and then x11proto-xext-dev.. I have to do it manually because I cannot access apt-get because my modems drivers arnt installed.. I have to finish all these to be able to install them *(lol)
[08:28] <egoleo> i have it
[08:28] <egoleo> enabled
[08:28] <exoddus> tx ubotu
[08:28] <Ayiden> How can I force them to install but at the same time have them configure as well?
[08:28] <sandollar> sn9: dont think so
[08:29] <Ayiden> can I use dpkg?
[08:29] <signius> can you activate usb keyboard ets in your BIOS this boosts the power to the USB port
[08:29] <levander> is there any big deal about the stuff in breezy?  I didn't see any in the press releases, so I haven't upgraded yet.
[08:29] <sn9> sandollar: then maybe you're up to date already
[08:29] <helpme> egoleo: dunno dude....ask in other channels too
[08:29] <kblin> hi
[08:29] <hender> does anyone know how I can activate wlan0 on boot?
[08:29] <signius> does yrou USB network device have its own power supply or does it get its power directly off the USB port ?
[08:29] <Ayiden> because If I can install libxi-dev then I can install the rest because its the key
[08:30] <sn9> Ayiden: is your modem the sagemfast800?
[08:30] <KursK> I have alsa but have an app who wants oss output (/dev/dsp) when I play something only on /dev/audio is output. shouldn't ubuntu have oss activated anyway?
[08:30] <IcemanV9> egoleo: did you update first when you enable all repos? if not, plz do update, then try to install acidrip
[08:30] <Ayiden> no its hsf
[08:30] <kbrooks> IcemanV9:
[08:30] <signius> does anyone know if 2.6.12-9-386 kernel ships with patched orinoco drivers to suport RFMON without patching ?
[08:30] <hender> signius: you talkin to me? :)
[08:30] <kbrooks> !sources.list
[08:30] <ubotu> kbrooks: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:30] <kbrooks> hm
[08:30] <kbrooks> !sources
[08:30] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[08:30] <sn9> Ayiden: oh. are you using linuxant?
[08:31] <egoleo> ok
[08:31] <Ayiden> but I dont need my modem working yet all I need is to install these three packages im >.< this close
[08:31] <signius> no ajeet i think
[08:31] <Ayiden> to finishing *(lol)
[08:31] <Ayiden> yes
[08:31] <Ayiden> with breezy
[08:31] <signius> who was having the usb networking problems ?
[08:31] <hender> ok
[08:31] <Ayiden> sn9: yes
[08:31] <stinky> Yesterday I used synaptic to upgrade all of my packages, Synaptics gave me a warning that some packages could not be installed ( most likely cause alot of my apt-sources list servers seem dead).  I ignored this warning and continued installing.  The next time I rebooted my computer, I could run firefox anymore nor could I play sound files.  Alot of programs just didn't start up anymore.  I have Ubuntu hoary, can anybody help me ?
[08:31] <sn9> Ayiden: can you temporarily get broadband access to the machine?
[08:32] <Ayiden> nope... which sux
[08:32] <Minus> anyone know where i can get a better theme
[08:32] <Sybil> got a question about mirc
[08:32] <Ayiden> cant use dpkg huh?
[08:32] <hender> Minus: http://www.gnome-look.org
[08:32] <Sybil> can we install reg mirc on ubuntu?
[08:32] <shagg> bentron - back to the broken pipe issue, I did an apt-get remove of the offending packages and it seems to have worked.
[08:32] <sn9> Ayiden: have you already transfered all the necessary .deb files over?
[08:32] <Ayiden> maybe I have enough to at least compile it but I doubt it because those three make a chain of other things that cant install
[08:32] <Sybil> or a script someone made?
[08:32] <Ayiden> yes I have EVERYTHING
[08:32] <Ayiden> and most things needed are installed
[08:33] <Rebuilding> retrying the boot, kernel panic don't affect acpi, but later: 'running hotplug pci-rc' , 'call trace' 'start kernel' and finally 'kernel panic (not syincing): fatal exception on interrupt'
[08:33] <sn9> Ayiden: did you dpkg -i each one?
[08:33] <Ayiden> just need to force these things
[08:33] <egoleo> i have all enabled
[08:33] <egoleo> but why
[08:33] <Ekibyougami> i miss the old ubuntu calendar that switched backkgrounds
[08:33] <Ayiden> no i used kubuntus utility.. just right clicked and then went to install
[08:33] <egoleo> multiverse, universe
[08:33] <Ayiden> easy way
[08:33] <Ayiden> *(lol)
[08:33] <JairunCaloth> Sybil: I don't belive mIRC is avalible on linux
[08:33] <Sillychuckie> lo all
[08:34] <Bentron> shagg, well that's good... as long as it's working :)
[08:34] <Ayiden> I figured out what all needed to go first and got down to these -.-
[08:34] <Sybil> okie dokie sn9
[08:34] <Sybil> thanks
[08:34] <Sillychuckie> im trying to install ubuntu on my laptop... its one of them widescreen ones, with no auto-adjust or anything that I can fiddle with,
[08:34] <HappyFool> heh. maybe you can get mirc working via wine ;)
[08:34] <sn9> Ayiden: i don't know of any kubuntu utility that will do that without net access
[08:34] <Sillychuckie> the setup screen doesnt look right, in that the bottom bit is chopped, and displayed at the top
[08:34] <Ayiden> is there a way to force them t install and configure forgetting dependencies?
[08:34] <Sillychuckie> some options are off the screen alltogether.
[08:34] <JairunCaloth> sybil: I've found X-Chat to be a great linux alternitive to mIRC though
[08:34] <Kyynara> could someone point me in the right direction... I'm missing some library
[08:34] <Kyynara> http://pastebin.com/396631
[08:34] <Sillychuckie> anything i can tweak from within the install?
[08:34] <Kyynara> and it gives me that error
[08:34] <sn9> Ayiden: dpkg -i
[08:35] <Sybil> JairunCaloth triewd it but I like this ver. :)
[08:35] <ompaul> Sybil, why would you want to, it is not a replacement, it is an alternative, would you want to put Toyota parts on a BMW ?
[08:35] <kbrooks> HappyFool: i did get it working via wine ;)
[08:35] <hender> another attempt - any of you guys have any idea why ubuntu doesn't activate wlan0 on boot? I've set it to default, and I always activate it after boot ...
[08:35] <ompaul> kbrooks, l33t mechanic
[08:35] <adagio_> sadd
[08:35] <Ayiden> I downloaded them from another box put them on my desktop and then from my desktop installed them
[08:35] <HappyFool> kbrooks: heh. well done ;).
[08:35] <JairunCaloth> sybil: I do wish there was a linux port of mIRC
[08:35] <Ayiden> simple
[08:36] <Rebuilding> happyfool: retrying the boot, kernel panic don't affect acpi, but later: 'running hotplug pci-rc' , 'call trace' 'start kernel' and finally 'kernel panic (not syincing): fatal exception on interrupt'
[08:36] <Sillychuckie> anyone got ubuntu working on wide-screen laptops?
[08:36] <ompaul> JairunCaloth, so ask the author to port it
[08:36] <Ayiden> but I dont know how to get dpkg to force them to install AND configure
[08:36] <sn9> Ayiden: dpkg -i
[08:36] <Sybil> well I will ask some people who uses unix and see what they use. and come back to you guys
[08:36] <levander> kyncani: maybe you're missing glx?
[08:36] <JairunCaloth> ompaul: going to the mIRC website now :)
[08:36] <HappyFool> Rebuilding: it's possible to disable the hotplug stuff too
[08:37] <Ayiden> sn9:  that will still use depencies.. i was thinking more like dpkg -i -f .. but I dont think thats enough
[08:37] <HappyFool> Rebuilding: i don't remember the precise kernel boot option -- check the pre-load pages (it was quite a long option)
[08:37] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i'm using OOo Calc, and can't seem to make the page landscape, anyone know how?
[08:37] <Kyynara> levander: are you talking to me... as me and kyncani do start the same way :)
[08:37] <Ayiden> tried it and it didnt seem to work
[08:37] <Kyynara> the names I mean
[08:37] <Rebuilding> HappyFool, i haven't idea on hotplug functions
[08:37] <levander> Kyynara: yeah, sorry
[08:37] <sn9> Ayiden: you WANT dependencies!
[08:37] <Kyynara> I do have glx
[08:37] <HappyFool> Rebuilding: it's not hard, but i'm not going to reboot my machine to check ;)
[08:37] <topyli> oh great. we'll soon enjoy mirc colors and whatever graphics it vomits :)
[08:37] <Ayiden> I know that but I cant install them unless it temporarily forgetts them
[08:37] <HappyFool> Rebuilding: just press F1 before the kernel proper boots
[08:38] <Ayiden> NO-ONE can install them
[08:38] <Sybil> I will come back on my ubuntu o/s using the nick pou52
[08:38] <Ayiden> if those packages need eahc other
[08:38] <Sybil> as this nick belong to xp :)
[08:38] <sn9> Ayiden: dpkg -i does a forced install
[08:38] <Rebuilding> ok HappyFool, thanks. re-re-re-re-reboot :
[08:39] <HappyFool> Ayiden: install them together (dpkg -i <package1.deb> <package2.deb> ...)
[08:39] <Ayiden> sn9:  you see libxext-dev need x11proto which needs lin\bxi-dev which neds libxext-dev
[08:39] <Ayiden> oh okay you thin that will work?
[08:40] <sn9> Ayiden: force install them anyway
[08:40] <HappyFool> Ayiden: yip
[08:40] <concept10> anyone installed opera lately? (on breezy) which release are you using?  the opera site lists a 'etch' deb for breezy.
[08:40] <Ayiden> hmmm... im about to feel very stupid *(lol)
[08:40] <lea> why cant i Visudo ? lea@babouin:~$ visudo /etc/sudoers
[08:40] <lea> usage: visudo [-c]  [-f sudoers]  [-q]  [-s]  [-V] 
[08:40] <Ayiden> let me try installing them all in one hit okay brb
[08:40] <Ayiden> *(lol)
[08:40] <IcemanV9> lea: sudo visudo
[08:40] <sn9> lea: don't specify a file
[08:41] <HappyFool> lea: maybe you want 'sudoedit' ?
[08:41] <lea> my problem is, that i'm not in the 'sudoers'  so i neeed to add me in the sudoers file.... i added my username in the admin group, and added it to the sudoers file, but thats still not working
[08:41] <Alex_BO> HELLO!doesn anybody know a program to make cover and label for CD/DVD?
[08:42] <lea> for some weird reason, my default install using a printed hoary cd doesnt even create a admin group (..)
[08:42] <HappyFool> lea: if you're not in the sudo group, how can you run visudo?
[08:42] <sn9> lea: you need to boot into single-user mode then
[08:42] <lea> well, just for the command, i putted my username ALL=(ALL) ALL
[08:43] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: try this:    apt-cache search 'cd.*label'   -- i see cdlabelgen
[08:43] <kbrooks> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 58036 2005-09-30 04:11 /usr/sbin/visudo
[08:43] <kbrooks> HappyFool: ^
[08:43] <lea> uh?
[08:43] <HappyFool> kbrooks: you reckon a non-sudo user can run visudo ? ;)
[08:44] <Alex_BO> HappyFool, can i use * with apt-cache?wow!
[08:44] <Kuolio> has anyne been having trouble with battle for wesnoth not playing sounds, "open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory"?
[08:44] <lea> even logged in root in terminal i cant
[08:44] <kbrooks> Alex_BO: '.*'
[08:44] <CosmoDad> can anyone explain why this is true in ubuntu (from wiki): "Be absolutely sure that you disable the debian-marillat repository and update your package database after installing the w32codecs. You will mess up your ubuntu install if you leave it enabled."
[08:44] <kbrooks> Alex_BO: notice quotes
[08:44] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: yeah. it's a regular expression though, not the same as '*' in ls etc
[08:44] <lancer285> Hey guys, how do I copy my entire /home directory to my external drive?
[08:44] <sn9> lea: if none of your accounts can sudo, you have to do it as root
[08:44] <Remmelas> CosmoDad yeah, it's true
[08:44] <CosmoDad> Remmelas: why is that so?
[08:44] <kbrooks> CosmoDad: becaise marillat is a debian repo
[08:44] <Alex_BO> HappyFool, yeah.that's a good thing
[08:45] <kbrooks> Remmelas: explain in detail or don't help, please
[08:45] <HappyFool> lea: i'm not a sudo guru, but    username  ALL=(ALL) ALL    looks right to me. it's still not working?
[08:45] <CosmoDad> kbrooks: oh and by upgrading from marillat things will get mixed up with ubuntu packages?
[08:45] <Remmelas> CosmoDad I've managed to cause file conflicts by inadvertantly installing packages that contained the same files as official ubuntu packages
[08:45] <federico_> lancer285: sudo cp /home/user /media/usbdisk/
[08:45] <phr0zenkore> hi, how do i get the ATI Radeon 9250 to work with Ubuntu?
[08:45] <lea> sn9, i know, thats why i do from start : but i jsut want ubuntu to ask me for my password when running synaptic or else...right now my username is ALL=(ALL) ALL  ...but it wont stay this way
[08:45] <CosmoDad> I get the point. Thanks
[08:45] <lancer285> federico_, will that copy /home and all its sub directories?
[08:45] <kblin> while installing 5.10, I notice that the lines the console has was misdetected, ergo, the lower part of the installation menus is missing. Any idea how to fix this?
[08:46] <federico_> lancer285: if you want to learn cp test it with a few files to see if it does what you want
[08:46] <PatrikJohansson> what is the easiest eay to access windows shares from breezy??
[08:46] <phr0zenkore> how do i get the ATI Radeon 9250 to work with Ubuntu?
[08:47] <Mineself> Hi All ! I am new to UBUNTU but I cant get my printer installed. Can anyone help a frustrated newbie?
[08:47] <lancer285> federico_, isn't it something like cp /home ./ /media/disk
[08:47] <lea> what is the command to lsit the users of a group ?
[08:47] <funkyHat> lancer285, read the man page :)
[08:47] <sn9> Mineself: which make/model printer?
[08:47] <Mineself> It is a Samsung CLP-510
[08:47] <lancer285> funkyHat, I did, its not making sense. I figured someone would just know
[08:47] <redeeman> anyone know where i can find the default ubuntu breezy sources.list?
[08:48] <kblin> Mineself: oh, that one's a bit bitchy
[08:48] <Mineself> I am hoping to share it to the rest of my computers on the network
[08:48] <redeeman> or is there anyone here that can give me the default deb lines, the deb-src doesent matter
[08:48] <pou52> back  with x-chat
[08:48] <kblin> Mineself: it's not the network variant?
[08:48] <phr0zenkore> heh, ubuntu 0wn
[08:48] <phr0zenkore> z
[08:48] <HappyFool> !tell redeeman about repos
[08:48] <Mineself> I HATE having to boot back int W2K to print!!!
[08:48] <mamoru> Hello!
[08:48] <simprix> I have been running breezy for a few months now. Do i need to do a apt-get dist-upgrade or not ? also is backports being updated to breeezy
[08:48] <lea> what is the command to lsit the users of a group ?
[08:48] <Sillychuckie> any way to change screen res of ubuntu installation? got a widescreen laptop and options are out of sight. cant adjust monitor...
[08:48] <kblin> Mineself: I have the networked variant running here..
[08:49] <mamoru> does ubuntu installation include gcc?
[08:49] <redeeman> thank you HappyFool
[08:49] <anindya> yes mamoru
[08:49] <anindya> mamoru : its there in the install cd
[08:49] <kblin> Mineself: do you have the samsung linux driver installed?
[08:49] <Mineself> nope. Its just USB. I did buy a print server hyub that supposed to offer it as a standalone net printer. I want to learn how to install it locally first though
[08:50] <Mineself> I have the install CD in the drive but I cant seem to figure out where to go from there. I tried running the install.sh file but nogo
[08:50] <Sillychuckie> neone, can i get ubuntu going on widescreen laptops, or should i give it a miss...
[08:50] <kblin> Mineself: did you run it as root?
[08:50] <sn9> Mineself: that model only works with special drivers from samsung's website. the cd is useless
[08:50] <HappyFool> mamoru: install the 'build-essential' package to get gcc/make
[08:50] <mamoru> anindya, please advise me how to install it
[08:50] <kbrooks> simprix:
[08:50] <mamoru> HappyFool, thx
[08:50] <kbrooks> ubotu: backports
[08:50] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[08:50] <redeeman> damn, ubuntu cant use the wireless on this laptop :|
[08:51] <kblin> Mineself: it does work, though :) Get the drivers from samsung then
[08:51] <Mineself> I downloaded the image file from Samsung's website also & extracted it into my home directory
[08:51] <redeeman> it has a broadcom chip
[08:51] <simprix> kbrooks: yes
[08:51] <Mineself> it looks the same as the CD
[08:51] <anindya> mamrou: system > adminstration > synaptic package manager
[08:51] <kblin> Mineself: you need to run the script as root, though
[08:51] <sn9> redeeman: use ndiswrapper
[08:51] <mamoru> HappyFool, should i do it with synaptic?
[08:51] <redeeman> sn9: yeah i had that working on another box i helped a friend with, in gentoo though
[08:51] <anindya> click on search select gcc
[08:51] <GNULinuxer> mamoru: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[08:52] <redeeman> sn9: does ubuntu have the ndiswrapper kernel module default?
[08:52] <Mineself> ok, so I opened a terminal window & went to the image directory in my home DIR
[08:52] <mamoru> GNULinuxer, thx
[08:52] <Ankka> how do I do a force install?
[08:52] <sn9> redeeman: install pkg ndiswrapper-utils
[08:52] <Mineself> Then I did a sudo ./setup.sh
[08:52] <Roach> hi all
[08:52] <TiMiDo> Ankka; sudo apt-get -f install
[08:52] <GNULinuxer> TiMiDo: not that
[08:52] <GNULinuxer> TiMiDo: it fixes deps
[08:52] <redeeman> sn9: yeah i know that, but does it have the kernel module then?
[08:52] <Mineself> it askde for a password ( wich I entered)
[08:52] <kblin> Mineself: no, you need to be able to spawn X windows as root
[08:52] <GNULinuxer> TiMiDo: breakages
[08:52] <TiMiDo> GNULinuxer; man apt-get
[08:53] <Mineself> Ohhhhhhhh
[08:53] <kbrooks> !backports
[08:53] <sn9> redeeman: i'm not sure how the module gets there but it does
[08:53] <mario> hz
[08:53] <Roach> how do you get the nic in vmware gsx server to work  with 5.1
[08:53] <redeeman> sn9: okay :)
[08:53] <daved> i want my hostname to get sent to the dhcp server so that it can update ddns.. it's a microsoft dhcp server running the windows domain here at work.. how can i do that?
[08:53] <redeeman> another thing
[08:53] <mamoru> GNULinuxer, he says: Couldn't find package build-essentials :o
[08:53] <redeeman> it didn't make the touchpad work correctly
[08:53] <Mineself> So do I have to log out & back in at just a prompt to do that ?
[08:53] <kbrooks> ubotu: no, backports is <reply>Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports. Also, Breezy does not have backports at the moment because there is no *later* distribution to backport from.
[08:53] <ubotu> kbrooks: i already had it that way
[08:53] <redeeman> it was actually very weird
[08:53] <mario> hello
[08:53] <kbrooks> dang
[08:53] <GNULinuxer> mamoru: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:53] <redeeman> tapping worked in gnome's mouse thingie, to double click and single click
[08:53] <kbrooks> simprix: ^
[08:53] <Mineself> Please forgive my ignorance.. I am really new (but learning fast!)
[08:53] <redeeman> but i couldnt move windows with tapping
[08:53] <kblin> Mineself: you should log into gnome/kde/whatever as root
[08:54] <kblin> Mineself: that's the easiest way
[08:54] <simprix> I have been running breezy for a few months now. Do i need to do a apt-get dist-upgrade or not ?
[08:54] <mamoru> GNULinuxer, thx
[08:54] <GNULinuxer> TiMiDo:  -f, --fix-broken
[08:54] <GNULinuxer>               Fix;  attempt  to  correct  a system with broken dependencies in
[08:54] <GNULinuxer>               place. This option, when used with install/remove, can omit  any
[08:54] <GNULinuxer>               packages  to permit APT to deduce a likely solution.
[08:54] <Minus> where do i go to dl some themes, and what do i dl
[08:54] <mamoru> GNULinuxer, it worked!
[08:54] <GNULinuxer> mamoru: heh!
[08:54] <Roach> !
[08:54] <ubotu> Roach: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[08:54] <redeeman> simprix: im not completely sure, bit i think you just need upgrade if you already are on the breezy repos
[08:54] <kblin> as an alternative, somehow it's possible to allow root to open X windows even when you're not logged in as root. But I don't know how to do that :)
[08:54] <Roach> hehehe
[08:54] <mamoru> hmmm.... I want also the OpenGL library ...
[08:54] <Roach> sorry
[08:54] <Mineself> kblin: I am runnign KDS right now but can log back into GNOME easily
[08:55] <Roach> I've just installed ubuntu on vmware gsx server
[08:55] <sn9> simprix: yes, dist-upgrade
[08:55] <kblin> Mineself: no, just log into whatever gui you use
[08:55] <Ankka> TiMiDo, thanks
[08:55] <simprix> thanks
[08:55] <GNULinuxer> TiMiDo: any comments?
[08:55] <Roach> however, it does not recognise the network card
[08:55] <kblin> Mineself: as long as you're root and can open a window in the GUI
[08:55] <Roach> if ifconfig, only the loopback is available
[08:55] <Mineself> ok , and how do I do that? I just logged in as I usually do with my main passowrd ( The root passord is the same)
[08:56] <Rebuilding> HappyFool: nothing to do, however it shouldn't to caused by hotplug... i'm making crazy...
[08:56] <Mineself> Oh.. I think I have it now... I need to change the username to root & log in.
[08:56] <Roach> Mineself: use sudo, there's no root
[08:56] <Mineself> ok, once I do that where do I go to get the setup.sh file to run ?
[08:56] <HappyFool> Rebuilding: sorry, i'm out of ideas
[08:56] <incompetence> anybody here using gkrellm with ubuntu 5.10-amd64
[08:56] <PatrikJohansson> what is the easiest way to accewss windows shares from ubuntu??
[08:57] <Rebuilding> PatrikJohansson: windows partitions?
[08:57] <redeeman> PatrikJohansson: i think just via the network thingie in places
[08:57] <redeeman> if you mean smb shares
[08:58] <Mineself> OK, why won't it run . I used the sudo ./setup.sh from a command line in Terminal
[08:58] <Roach> is anyone running Ubuntu on VMWare GSX server?
[08:58] <redeeman> Mineself: what setup.sh? (sorry, didnt follow before)
[08:58] <sn9> Mineself: what's the error?
[08:58] <HappyFool> Mineself: what's the error? (don't paste more than 2 lines here)
[08:58] <Mineself> I gave the password when prompted & then it just went back to the $prompt.
[08:59] <Dav1> need help in recognising mp3s on my ubuntu linux
[08:59] <PatrikJohansson> rebuilding, ??
[08:59] <Mineself> asechris@ubuntu:~/image$ sudo ./setup.sh
[08:59] <Mineself> Password:
[08:59] <Mineself> asechris@ubuntu:~/image$
[08:59] <PatrikJohansson> redeeman, yeah but i cant get it working....
[08:59] <mamoru> sht
[08:59] <Mineself> and that was it
[08:59] <phr0zenkore> err
[08:59] <redeeman> PatrikJohansson: what happens?
[08:59] <Dav1> can anyone help
[08:59] <phr0zenkore> whoever messaged me (i forgot), your method does not work
[09:00] <GNULinuxer> Dav1: ?
[09:00] <PatrikJohansson> redeeman, i have to log in to access and write a domain name, what should i write?? (for the domain name)
[09:00] <Dav1> Yes
[09:00] <mamoru> please help
[09:00] <mamoru> i cannot compile a simple source with gcc
[09:00] <redeeman> PatrikJohansson: are you trying to login to a domain, or just standard shares on a workgroup?
[09:00] <incompetence> PatrikJohansson: domainname\username
[09:00] <sn9> Mineself: the setup tool apparently doesn't like debian
[09:00] <redeeman> mamoru: what is the problem?
[09:00] <mamoru> it cannot find the header file conio.h
[09:00] <Dav1> I get an error when i try to play mp3 how can I fix that
[09:01] <TiMiDo> Dav1; what error?
[09:01] <redeeman> mamoru: is it missing includes?
[09:01] <Mineself> Did I miss something in my command line ?
[09:01] <PatrikJohansson> redeeman, shares on workgroup
[09:01] <IcemanV9> mamoru: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[09:01] <TiMiDo> Dav1; try playing an mp3 with mpg123
[09:01] <mamoru> redeeman, who - it?
[09:01] <PatrikJohansson> incompetence, how do you mean??
[09:01] <redeeman> PatrikJohansson: then it should be just pressing it, and go into windows shares, but i dont really know, i dont use ubuntu myself
[09:01] <GreenFireD> sn9, hey
[09:01] <Dav1> and how can i get access to my windows part of the hard disc
[09:01] <anindya> marou: conio.h is not there in linux
[09:01] <TiMiDo> sorry mpg321
[09:01] <sn9> Mineself: i think not. try the process listed under "shit" on this page: http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Samsung-CLP-500
[09:01] <redeeman> PatrikJohansson: i only know how to mount shares via a terminal, which probably isnt what you want to do
[09:01] <incompetence> try user "domainname\username" as username to log into a domain
[09:01] <anindya> mamrou : its specific to turbo c...
[09:01] <redeeman> mamoru: the problem with gcc
[09:02] <Mineself> ok, sn9. Tnx.
[09:02] <mamoru> anindya, thx
[09:02] <PatrikJohansson> redeeman, incompetence, OK
[09:02] <mamoru> redeeman, can it be solved?
[09:02] <redeeman> mamoru: depends on what the problem is
[09:02] <redeeman> mamoru: what error do you get
[09:02] <PatrikJohansson> incompetence, but if im on a lan and dont have a domain name??
[09:02] <mamoru> redeeman, it says that the header file conio.h cannot be found
[09:02] <Dav1> how can I get access on my windows os from linux?
[09:02] <GreenFireD> !java
[09:02] <ubotu> I heard java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[09:02] <incompetence> PatrikJohansson: without a domainname you cannot log onto a domain
[09:03] <redeeman> mamoru: what is it you try to compile? you are probably missing a -dev package
[09:03] <cocox> lol
[09:03] <sn9> !javadeb
[09:03] <ubotu> methinks javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[09:03] <cius> would anyone happen to know why I can't browse windows shares from my fresh breezy install?
[09:03] <khenu> Hello.
[09:03] <PatrikJohansson> incompetence, but if i want to acces a share on a win computer??
[09:03] <redeeman> Dav1: you can mount it, "enable" from the disk thing inside administration menu in gnome
[09:03] <phr0zenkore> can anybody help me with my ATI Radeon 9250?
[09:03] <mamoru> redeeman, i have written a simple program on c++ by myself, but now i'm unable to compile it
[09:03] <cocox> sure
[09:03] <cocox> what happend
[09:03] <Mineself> I found a reference to the SAMSUNG setup tool being SHit. Is that what you mean sn9?
[09:03] <phr0zenkore> well, slow fps
[09:03] <erisco> i was looking into upgrading my computer... one of the things i would really like to improve is the processing speed. right now I have a 1.8 which really isn't that bad, but could be better. so i was wondering which of these two situations are better, or if they are the same
[09:04] <phr0zenkore> thx =P
[09:04] <mamoru> redeeman, i'm gonna try to change the source so it doesn't use the conio.h library
[09:04] <erisco> 1) two 1gb processors
[09:04] <khenu> When I try to configure cups via web it says me this: "Unauthorized Administrative commands are disabled in the web interface for security reasons. Please use the GNOME CUPS manager (System > Administration > Printing)."
[09:04] <erisco> 2) one 2gb processor
[09:04] <redeeman> mamoru: which libraries do you try to use?
[09:04] <sn9> Mineself: under that reference are instructions
[09:04] <mamoru> redeeman, conio.h
[09:04] <redeeman> mamoru: whatever library you are using, which requires that include file, you probably need to install the -dev package of
[09:04] <mamoru> redeeman, how to install it?
[09:04] <CosmoDad> can you use third-party hoary repositories in breezy generally?
[09:04] <khenu> And if I use GNOME CUPS manager it tells me SEGFAULT :S.
[09:04] <incompetence> PatrikJohansson: mount -t smbfs -o username=name,passwortd=passw //name_ofserver/name_of_share /mountpoint
[09:05] <sn9> CosmoDad: like what?
[09:05] <incompetence> PatrikJohansson: mount -t smbfs -o username=name,password=passw //name_ofserver/name_of_share /mountpoint
[09:05] <HappyFool> mamoru: use packages.ubuntu.com to search for specific files
[09:05] <redeeman> mamoru: normally, a library, requires you to link against a library, and include an file, with prototypes
[09:05] <redeeman> mamoru: you probably need the -dev package of the library
[09:05] <Dav1> is anyone going to help me
[09:05] <erisco> because if having two processors is more efficient than one, i could add on another 1.8gb processor to get 3.6bg total
[09:05] <CosmoDad> sn9: I've seen this wiki entry on mythtv
[09:05] <mamoru> HappyFool, thx for the link
[09:05] <redeeman> Dav1: i answered before - in the disk program in adminstration menu
[09:05] <CosmoDad> sn9: it documents an hoary sources.list entry
[09:05] <redeeman> !tell redeeman about windowsdrives
[09:05] <mamoru> redeeman, what is the "-dev package of the library"?
[09:06] <cius> is samba in breezy broken or something?  Places->Network Servers gives me nothing, but I know I have shares on my network.
[09:06] <sn9> CosmoDad: there's one way to find out
[09:06] <redeeman> !tell Dav1 about windowsdrives
[09:06] <kblin> Mineself, sn9
[09:06] <CosmoDad> sn9: :)
[09:06] <kblin> Mineself, sn9: the samsung setup tool works fine in debian sarge
[09:06] <erisco> okay well if no one knows... =p
[09:06] <incompetence> anybody here using gkrellm with ubuntu 5.10-amd64
[09:06] <Mineself> I am still here
[09:07] <khenu> When I try to configure cups via web it says me this: "Unauthorized Administrative commands are disabled in the web interface for security reasons. Please use the GNOME CUPS manager (System > Administration > Printing)."
[09:07] <khenu> And if I use GNOME CUPS manager it tells me SEGFAULT :S.
[09:07] <erisco> maybe i will go with two processors just because it would be more cost effective
[09:07] <erisco> since i already have one
[09:07] <sn9> kblin: what about etch?
[09:07] <Mineself> Can't get it to run at all in HH Ubuntu
[09:07] <erisco> besides, 1.8s can't be that expensive anymore
[09:07] <redeeman> Dav1: i hope it helps
[09:07] <redeeman> mamoru: ubuntu normally splits up packages
[09:07] <Mineself> sn9 I found the manual install instructions.
[09:07] <redeeman> mamoru: because ubuntu is a binary dist, it doesent include includes in library packages
[09:08] <haslguitar> why does the "Add applications" program close after it loads the dependencies?
[09:08] <redeeman> mamoru: so you need a -dev package... tell me this, what is conio.h?
[09:08] <redeeman> haslguitar: that is probably a bug
[09:08] <Dav1> one more thing how can i get my lexmark x83 to work in this OS
[09:08] <haslguitar> redeeman, its strange because it wasn't doing it until i updated
[09:08] <redeeman> Dav1: it's not entirely possible you can, but look at linuxprinting.org - if it's there and it says it works, you can
[09:08] <mamoru> redeeman, conio.h is a standard c++ header file
[09:09] <haslguitar> redeeman, i have been running breezy for a while and its all been fine.  i just did an update and its messed up now.... hmm
[09:09] <redeeman> mamoru: i do not have it, and i have all standard c/c++ headers
[09:09] <devman> anyone got gvpndialer to work ?
[09:09] <redeeman> haslguitar: i guess they missed a bug
[09:09] <PatrikJohansson> incompetence: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3250
[09:09] <MaTaKs> need help i got this error when installing psyBNC "tools/convconf.c:81: error: label at end of compound statement"
[09:09] <Dav1> thank you
[09:09] <tolstoy> hm. evince prints my latex doc as A4, whereas ggv, properly, sends it to the us letter page.  Anyone know how I can debug that?  Should I just file a bug?
[09:09] <ptlo> mamoru, redeeman: conio is borland's text-mode "interface" library similar to unix 'ncurses' (similar in goal, not in api)
[09:09] <GreenFireD> sn9, how I need to install java support? I am trying by this guide, but i isn't succeed http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting
[09:10] <tolstoy> I've set the printer, and options, etc, etc, to US Letter.
[09:10] <Minus> how do i install things
[09:10] <ptlo> mamoru, redeeman: afaik, it's dos-only
[09:10] <Minus> like a theme
[09:10] <mamoru> ptlo, thank you, I didn't know it
[09:10] <Rebuilding> on bugzilla at cc field, what i must do write?
[09:10] <redeeman> ptlo: yeah i just came to remember it was some borland stuff
[09:10] <Minus> gosh this is impossible
[09:10] <sn9> GreenFireD: don't use that guide
[09:10] <redeeman> mamoru: then it's no-go - dont use borland stuff :D
[09:10] <lea> can someone tell me whats the command to list the user of a speficied group ?
[09:10] <mamoru> redeeman, ptlo, i'll change the code so the program doesn't need the file
[09:10] <redeeman> mamoru: normal windows with visual studio doesent have either
[09:10] <kbrooks> !javadeb
[09:10] <ubotu> somebody said javadeb was for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[09:11] <GreenFireD> sn9, so what to do? and write again what i need to remove please.
[09:11] <sn9> GreenFireD: use the .deb files that !javadeb tells you about
[09:11] <ptlo> mamoru: if you need similar functionality, i suggest you read up on ncurses and/or slang libraries. on the other hand, if you just need clrscr() or waiting for a key, that can be easily done with standard c stuff :)
[09:11] <incompetence> PatrikJohansson: du you have smbfs in cat /proc/filesystems?
[09:11] <GreenFireD> !javdeb
[09:11] <ubotu> GreenFireD: I give up, what is it?
[09:11] <GreenFireD> !javadeb
[09:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[09:11] <kblin> sn9: didn't try. I'm just using that thing on a production system
[09:11] <PatrikJohansson> incompetence: no idea :P
[09:11] <redeeman> i know why
[09:11] <redeeman> PatrikJohansson: install smbmnt
[09:11] <redeeman> this is a bug in breezy
[09:11] <incompetence> cat /proc/filesystems
[09:11] <redeeman> i helped another guy earlier today
[09:11] <Rebuilding> on bugzilla at cc field, what i must do write?
[09:11] <redeeman> you need smbmount application
[09:11] <phr0zenkore> can anybody help me with my ATI Radeon Excalibur 9250 and my low FPS rate? i have indirect rendering.
[09:11] <GreenFireD> !javadeb
[09:11] <ubotu> from memory, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[09:11] <absenth> does anyone know of a NTFS read/write package that will work on Breezy?
[09:12] <GreenFireD> !javadeb it isn't working..
[09:12] <ubotu> GreenFireD: I don't know
[09:12] <mamoru> ptlo, it is the getch() in the code, i'll change it to smth
[09:12] <redeeman> absenth: there exiusts a linux ntfs readwrite driver, but it's not free
[09:12] <sn9> GreenFireD: yes it is
[09:12] <kbrooks> GreenFireD: it is
[09:12] <Rolo> Hiya.  I'm trying to install my first linux app, and having probs.  It's pan.  I try to untar it, but I don't have perms to put it off the root.  WHen I try and do an "su" it asks me for the root password, but I swear blind I never set one during isntall, only one for my main account.  Any ideas?
[09:12] <mamoru> ptlo, btw, do you have any advice?
[09:12] <iceman-AMD64> anyone here ungodly at ubuntu ...
[09:12] <kbrooks> ubotu: tell GreenFireD about javadeb
[09:12] <ptlo> mamoru, try getchar()
[09:12] <PatrikJohansson> redeeman: how do i install it??
[09:12] <GreenFireD> ohh there is it.
[09:12] <mamoru> ptlo, thx
[09:12] <cius> was that smbmnt suggestion for browsing windows shares???
[09:12] <redeeman> PatrikJohansson: apt-get install smbmnt i think
[09:12] <phr0zenkore> Rolo: use the passf from your normal account
[09:12] <phr0zenkore> and use sudo
[09:12] <absenth> redeeman: there was a project on SourceForge at one time that was free, but, I don't think it ever had ubuntu kernels avalible
[09:12] <Rolo> I tried that :(
[09:12] <GreenFireD> thanks
[09:12] <starscalling> test
[09:13] <redeeman> cius: i know it's needed for mounting normally
[09:13] <Rolo> it doesn't list root as being an account in user manager either, I presume that's correct?
[09:13] <redeeman> absenth: i never saw that project, is it the standard linux ntfs project?
[09:13] <incompetence> PatrikJohansson: install smbfs too
[09:13] <cius> redeeman, for browsing windows shares right?  I'm trying to do that now, having trouble for some reason after upgrading to breezy
[09:13] <incompetence> PatrikJohansson: its needed by mount
[09:13] <LasseL> cius, open nautilus and type ctrl + l, then enter smb://yourservername
[09:13] <Mineself> kblin, sn9 Holy crapoly this is getting complex! everything is going well so far. I am making the config file now
[09:14] <redeeman> cius: i suggest trying to install smbmnt, it is needed if it mounts them, which is the only way to support non-gnomevfs apps
[09:14] <medi_> I try to install VMware
[09:14] <medi_> restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[09:14] <medi_> with CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".
[09:14] <PatrikJohansson> redeeman: packet not found (smbmnt)
[09:14] <absenth> redeeman: I'd have to take a look again, it's been quite a while since I looked at it.
[09:14] <MaTaKs> need help i got this error when installing psyBNC:  "tools/convconf.c:81: error: label at end of compound statement" can someone help
[09:14] <redeeman> PatrikJohansson: i cant quite remember the exact name, try do this: apt-cache search smb
[09:14] <absenth> redeeman: IE, Forsaken Core 1 era
[09:14] <medi_> what those variables mean?
[09:15] <sn9> MaTaKs: wrong gcc version
[09:15] <csko> hi
[09:15] <JairunCaloth> what is xubuntu?
[09:15] <iceman-AMD64> anyone here godly at configuring ubuntu ...
[09:15] <MaTaKs> sn9: then what should i do?
[09:15] <incompetence> PatrikJohansson: use smbfs
[09:15] <mamoru> ptlo, omg it now says "undefined reference to 'tan'"
[09:15] <sn9> MaTaKs: use an older gcc
[09:15] <ptlo> mamoru, you need to link it with math library
[09:15] <mamoru> ptlo, isn't the math.h the standard header file?
[09:15] <redeeman> incompetence: for smbfs you need the smbmount/smbmnt binary, which breezy does not have default
[09:15] <PatrikJohansson> incompetence: ok, and then??
[09:15] <Cryptid> how do i make .iso backups of cds???
[09:15] <mamoru> mamoru, how?
[09:15] <mamoru> ptlo, how?
[09:15] <phr0zenkore> anybody? o_
[09:15] <MaTaKs> sn9:  i dont know how im just new to linux, how ot install older gcc?
[09:15] <redeeman> PatrikJohansson: it might be that you need to uncomment some of the repos in sources.list
[09:15] <incompetence> PatrikJohansson: sudo modprobe smbfs
[09:15] <phr0zenkore> o_O*
[09:16] <sn9> Cryptid: with dd
[09:16] <cius> Lassel, okay, I got into my windows share, thanks for that tip.  But why won't Places->Network Servers let me in?
[09:16] <iceman-AMD64> is flash player supported in 64 bit yet
[09:16] <csko> i wonder if someone could tell me why cant i use numpad( /, minus, plus, numbers, etc) in Kubuntu 5.10 :\
[09:16] <HappyFool> Cryptid: take a look here: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm  -- has some good tips on ripping/burning cds
[09:16] <redeeman> csko: laptop?
[09:16] <LasseL> cius, no clue, but you can bookmark it now you have it
[09:16] <medi_> how to use older gcc?
[09:16] <sn9> MaTaKs: use synaptic
[09:16] <csko> redeeman: no
[09:16] <csko> ps2 keyb
[09:16] <cius> LasseL, thanks, I'll do that
[09:16] <ptlo> mamoru, #include just includes the header file which tells compiler that there is a function somewhere...you also need to link with it in order to produce working code. with gcc, you do that with '-l' option: gcc -o foo foo.c -lm (-lm will link with libm.so, which is standard math library)
[09:16] <LasseL> cius, you can also mount it permanently if it is a server that is always on
[09:17] <sn9> iceman-AMD64: no
[09:17] <redeeman> cius: what did u do to get into a smb share?
[09:17] <Cryptid> sn9, what is dd?
[09:17] <csko> it works on terminal 1, but not in kde
[09:17] <mamoru> ptlo, thx a lot
[09:17] <redeeman> ah
[09:17] <LasseL> redeeman, open nautilus and type ctrl + l, then enter smb://yourservername
[09:17] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[09:17] <Rolo> Any other ideas?
[09:17] <sn9> Cryptid: it's a command
[09:17] <tr3vis> i have a network share that is mounted, and the computer that the share was on got rebooted, and now i cant umount it, can anyone help? it tells me the device is busy
[09:17] <redeeman> LasseL: but that does not allow it to be mounted
[09:17] <lea> ok, i have one heck of a problem...:  Fresh install hoary (printed cd)  ; but it didnt create a admin group (so my main user was not in the admin group too)   , so i putted my username  ALL=(ALL) ALL in the sudoers file.   then i created a 'admin' group  in the GUI , and added my main user to the group,  then added %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL  to the sudoers....   all should work fine, except that when i remove  my username from the sudoers... its still saying
[09:17] <lea>  i'm not in the sudoers .... whatdid i forgot ?
[09:17] <cius> redeeman, exaclt what lassel said, went into nautilus, hit ctr+l and then typed smb://myservername/folderonserver
[09:17] <IG0R> i have a prob with synaptic anyone could help?
[09:17] <LasseL> redeeman, no, but first you must make sure you can access it
[09:17] <medi_> heh
[09:18] <Cryptid> how to use it i (syntax gimme a simple example)
[09:18] <EnsignRedshirt> OK, so evince has an annoying bug.  It is probably not a security issue, which means this bug won't be fixed in breezy.  What alternatives do I have for getting a fixed version?  Install from source?  Try a newer version from debian?
[09:18] <Dav1> is there a programme that i can connect to the P2P network
[09:18] <sn9> Cryptid: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso bs=2048
[09:18] <lea> and, is it normal that the 'adm' group doenst show in the Group list from the 'users and groups' Gui ?
[09:19] <HappyFool> lea: does 'getent group admin' list your user?
[09:19] <LasseL> redeeman, cius, you you want the mount permanently you'll have to put it in your /etc/fstab file, let me look up how mine looks
[09:19] <sn9> Dav1: which p2p network?
[09:19] <Cryptid> sn9 the foo part can be changed rite? and wat is bs=2048?
[09:19] <mamoru> ptlo, omg it still cannot run :'(    now it says /tmp/ccYwE9ma.o:(.eh_frame+0x11): undefined reference to '__gxx_personality_v0'
[09:19] <incompetence> anybody here using gkrellm with ubuntu 5.10-amd64
[09:19] <redeeman> LasseL: i know how to do it
[09:19] <redeeman> LasseL: but breezy has a bug
[09:19] <HappyFool> lea: oh, maybe the group needs to be in /etc/group and /etc/gshadow -- hope did you add the group?
[09:19] <sn9> Cryptid: yes, and bs is needed for cds
[09:19] <lea> HappyFool,  yes it doe
[09:19] <mamoru> ptlo, collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[09:19] <HappyFool> lea: how did you add the group, sorry
[09:19] <redeeman> LasseL: it does not install smbmnt default, which you need to mount samba shares using smbfs
[09:19] <ptlo> mamoru, ah, you need to compile it with 'g++', not 'gcc', sorry :)
[09:19] <mamoru> :)
[09:19] <Cryptid> sn9, thanx
[09:19] <spiral> hi
[09:19] <HappyFool> lea: hmm
[09:19] <mamoru> thx again
[09:20] <Rolo> Nobody can help me?  ANywhere else I can try?  Should it have asked me for a root pass on install?
[09:20] <LasseL> redeeman, oh, I wouldn't know about that, I upgraded
[09:20] <lea> HappyFool,  i jsut created it in the 'users and groups'
[09:20] <redeeman> Rolo: when?
[09:20] <medi_> how to use older gcc for VMware?
[09:20] <HappyFool> lea: did you logout and login after adding yourself to the group?
[09:20] <cius> LasseL, thanks for the help
[09:20] <Dav1> I am looking for a p2p programme for downloading musick and such files can you help me locate one
[09:20] <mamoru> ptlo, thanks!
[09:20] <HappyFool> lea: ok, that should be fine. i thought maybe you edited /etc/group
[09:20] <redeeman> LasseL: okay - do me a favor, apt-cache search smb, tell me if the package is called smbmount or smbmnt
[09:20] <cius> redeeman, so I do need smbmnt in the end, because of a breezy bug?
[09:20] <incompetence> Dav1: whicg p2p network?
[09:20] <ptlo> mamoru, no problem, i'm glad it worked :)
[09:20] <redeeman> cius: well if you wanna mount, which is the best way to do it
[09:20] <sn9> Dav1: which p2p network are you interested in?
[09:20] <Rolo> I'm trying to install  pan - I try to untar it (to / - is this correct?  it looks like the same dir structure), but I don't have perms to put it off the root.  WHen I try and do an "su" it asks me for the root password, but I swear blind I never set one during isntall, only one for my main account.  Any ideas?
[09:21] <cius> redeeman, okay, thanks
[09:21] <LasseL> cius, redeeman, my line in /etc/fstab looks like this: //enoch/data    /media/enoch_data      smbfs   rw,credentials=/home/lasse/.smbpasswd,uid=lasse,gid=data 0 0
[09:21] <mamoru> ptlo, i was already going to give up
[09:21] <lea> HappyFool,  i  Alt-F1 - F7   but i logout everytime when i change 9to be sure to not interfere with 2 root users
[09:21] <HappyFool> !tell rolo about root
[09:21] <lucaas> Dav1, giftoxic, limewire, amule, linuxdcpp, azureus, rufus...
[09:21] <EnsignRedshirt> Rolo: I don't know what pan is, but it seems unlikely that it should be put in /.
[09:21] <HappyFool> lea: err, that means 'yes', i take it?
[09:21] <redeeman> LasseL: you probably should use ip though, it's not always it works with netbios name
[09:21] <cius> LasseL, thanks, I'll try to get mine right
[09:21] <Rolo> Aha. thanks happyfool :>.  So, am I going about installing it thje wrong way then?
[09:21] <medi_> anyone, how to use older gcc??
[09:22] <lea> HappyFool,  yes.     (also, is it normal that the 'adm' group doesnt show in the 'users and groups' groups tab ?)
[09:22] <Dav1> kazaa or limewire
[09:22] <Remmelas> medi_ CC=gcc-3.4 <commaond>
[09:22] <LasseL> redeeman, I have smbclient and smbfs installed
[09:22] <HappyFool> Rolo: well, for starters, why not install the ubuntu package instead of from source?
[09:22] <Remmelas> or whatever gcc version you need
[09:22] <HappyFool> lea: let me check my list...
[09:22] <redeeman> LasseL: and not smbmnt?
[09:22] <HappyFool> Rolo: second, use 'sudo' not 'su' -- read the wiki page for more
[09:22] <LasseL> redeeman, smbfs would be what you want for the /etc/fstab trick
[09:22] <sn9> Dav1: for the limewire network, you can use gtk-gnutella
[09:22] <Rolo> HappyFool: THanks ! :> I got the debian package.  ah, I'll go see if there's an ubuntu one.
[09:23] <nalioth> Rolo: enable all your ubuntu repos and see all the toys you get access to
[09:23] <Dav1> ok ty
[09:23] <LasseL> redeeman, no smbmnt package found
[09:23] <redeeman> LasseL: for that to work you need either the smbmnt or smbmount executable - try look at your system, it must be there
[09:23] <HappyFool> lea: i see an 'admin' in my GUI users+groups
[09:23] <InitMass> where is gedit in the gnome menu nowadays?
[09:23] <HappyFool> lea: i have breezy, but i imagine this would be the same in hoary
[09:23] <lea> yeap, but no  'adm' ?
[09:23] <HappyFool> lea: did you do an 'expert' install?
[09:23] <incompetence> LasseL: it is in the smbfs package
[09:23] <LasseL> redeeman, i have both
[09:23] <redeeman> InitMass: accessories
[09:23] <HappyFool> lea: um
[09:23] <dave_> Hello all.  I'm looking for help with w32codecs for Breezy.
[09:23] <lea> HappyFool,  nop, basic install
[09:23] <redeeman> LasseL: that is probably because you upgraded
[09:23] <HappyFool> lea: no, no 'adm'
[09:24] <LasseL> redeeman, I am pretty sure you need the smbfs package
[09:24] <redeeman> LasseL: doesent apt-cache search smb find smbmnt or smbmount?
[09:24] <sven> evening, I'm using Linux since yesterday: I want to install the quicktime plugin in Opera
[09:24] <LasseL> redeeman, my smbfs comes from the breezy repos
[09:24] <lea> HappyFool,  ok, was just curious if this was my problem..
[09:24] <HappyFool> lea: i didn't even realize there was an adm group -- i have that too (via 'getent adm')
[09:24] <InitMass> redeeman, is it still called gedit? i can't find it...instead i can find mousepad
[09:24] <redeeman> LasseL: yes but those are just for the filesystem for the kernel i believe
[09:24] <LasseL> redeeman, nope
[09:24] <redeeman> InitMass: it should be there
[09:24] <sn9> sven: pkg name: mozilla-mplayer
[09:24] <redeeman> LasseL: then they are "orphans" on your system
[09:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dave_ about w32codecs
[09:25] <Rolo> nalioth: cheers - by "ubunto repos" do you mean in the updates bit?
[09:25] <InitMass> redeeman, emacs 21 is also there. how do i get gedit in there again?
[09:25] <redeeman> LasseL: if you uncommend and activate some of the repos in sources.list the pacjkage will be availiable
[09:25] <LasseL> redeeman, try smbfs and smbclient
[09:25] <X-Slayer> hi
[09:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Rolo about sources
[09:25] <redeeman> LasseL: smbclient works, but that is a standalone one, and smbfs is only for the kernel im quite certain
[09:25] <HappyFool> lea: this may sound extreme, but maybe a reinstall would be best. it sounds like something went wrong on your install. there were no error messages or anything?
[09:25] <X-Slayer> yeah
[09:25] <Rolo> nalioth: thanks mate!  That's exacly what I need :>
[09:25] <redeeman> LasseL: i dont really know debian, is there a way to find out what package your smbmnt and smbmount executables belongs to?
[09:26] <sven> sn9: what do you mean? I have M-Player installed and I have installed the quicktime libraries with Synaptic for reading quicktime file
[09:26] <sven> s
[09:26] <incompetence> redeeman: yes use apt-file
[09:26] <herdh> i cant rm /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/fglrx.ko
[09:26] <X-Slayer> yes
[09:26] <mario> hello
[09:26] <redeeman> LasseL: please use apt-file on smbmnt
[09:26] <kblin> Mineself: ok, good luck with that printer
[09:26] <LasseL> incompetence, no apt-file command
[09:26] <lea> HappyFool,  , its the first time i install it on this PC, but  its the 3rd one i do with this cd (its an 'official' one)    i had a same problem the last time though...so i think that the same thing would happen if i reinstall ;|
[09:26] <sn9> sven: there is a separate pkg called mozilla-mplayer that has the browser plugin
[09:26] <sven> ah, ok: thnx
[09:27] <incompetence> LasseL: apt-get install apt-file
[09:27] <HappyFool> redeeman: you can search for files on packages.ubuntu.com too
[09:27] <herdh> a do it many times under X and console and fglrx.ko always there is
[09:27] <incompetence> LasseL: apt-file update
[09:27] <HappyFool> lea: ok
[09:27] <mario> hallo
[09:27] <incompetence> LasseL: apt-file search whatewerfileyouwant
[09:27] <sven> sn9: synaptic says that it's allready installed
[09:27] <sven> but Opera still says that it's plugin content
[09:28] <LasseL> incompetence, redeeman, just a minute
[09:28] <redeeman> okay
[09:28] <cius> redeeman, I just did an apt-cache search on smbmount and it brought my install of smbfs
[09:28] <sn9> sven: can you list available plugins in opera at all?
[09:28] <sven> sure
[09:28] <sven> not too many thought: application/x-opera-nsplugin	-	
[09:28] <sven> /usr/lib/opera/plugins/libnpp.so
[09:28] <HappyFool> lea: if you like i can put my /etc/sudoers file on the pastebin
[09:28] <mamoru> aaaaaaargh the linux is too difficult to me. I'm trying to rename the file with "rename BLABLA.CPP blabla.cpp" and it says "Bareword "BLABLA" not allowed while "strict-subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1". What does it mean? What is wrong?
[09:28] <HappyFool> lea: i'm pretty much out of ideas
[09:28] <redeeman> cius: oh, then smbfs also provides that apparently
[09:28] <InitMass> what does ** (process:11547): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[09:28] <InitMass>  mean?
[09:28] <sn9> sven: do you know what folder they're in?
[09:28] <HappyFool> mamoru: use 'mv', not rename
[09:28] <poningru> can someone tell me how to find the chipset of a wireless card?
[09:29] <Dav1> can anyone help me install gtk-gnutella
[09:29] <mamoru> HappyFool, thx, gonna try
[09:29] <HappyFool> mamoru: or use nautilus (the graphical file explorer)
[09:29] <poningru> its a
[09:29] <redeeman> cius: on kubuntu breezy i had to install smbmnt to get smbmount executable and be able to mount smbfs
[09:29] <poningru> Airnet AWN154 802.11G
[09:29] <brady__> why does lisp have such a small showing in breezy (i.e. almost all lisp resources are in universe)?
[09:29] <sven> yep
[09:29] <redeeman> it's abit strange ubuntu have overlapping packages
[09:29] <sven> synaptic can show me
[09:29] <cius> redeeman, yea, I tried that after doing a search in synaptic for both smbmnt and getting nothing, then doing smbmount and getting smbfs
[09:29] <mamoru> HappyFool, mv worked
[09:29] <Mineself> OK, I am trying to get the CUPS server running & I get this now Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running.
[09:29] <sn9> poningru: there's a table at linux-wlan.com
[09:30] <Mineself> Where do I go from here ?
[09:30] <lea> HappyFool,  could you show me what 'ALL=(ALL) ALL     '     you have in your sudoer file ?
[09:30] <HappyFool> lea: sure
[09:30] <sven> sn9:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug
[09:30] <sn9> Mineself: check to see that your loopback interface is up
[09:31] <InitMass> how do i edit the gnome menu?
[09:31] <scummbar> somebody can tell me how to enable in ubuntu that when you reciebe messages by the jabber, the icon in the taskbar makes an highlight as the style of windows messenger
[09:31] <sn9> sven: what folder does opera look for plugins in?
[09:31] <Mineself> sn9, ok.. where do I go to check that ?
[09:31] <Dav1> I beg some one to help me to install gtk-guntella
[09:31] <nalioth> Dav1: enable all your repos
[09:31] <sn9> Mineself: network-admin should show you
[09:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dav1 about sources
[09:31] <HappyFool> lea: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3252
[09:31] <lea> thx
[09:31] <sven> sn9: I think in here: /usr/lib/opera/plugins/
[09:32] <phr0zenkore> Can somebody PLEASE help me with my Ati Radeon 9250 problem?
[09:32] <sn9> sven: make symlinks in there to the plugin
[09:32] <mamoru> hmmmm.... just wondering what are the files that end with '~' ?
[09:32] <herdh> i dont want be HappyFool, i back to slackware
[09:32] <Mineself> sn9 ok trying that
[09:32] <scummbar> somebody uses gaim?
[09:32] <nalioth> phr0zenkore: ask your question, theatrics are not necessary, as the users change in here often. they'd rather see a question then a dramatic plea for help
[09:33] <HappyFool> brady__: luck of the draw, i guess. i don't know what the criteria for main is, but i think the idea is to focus on a minimal selection of useful stuff
[09:33] <sven> sn9: I'm a n00b @ linux, I just started, books are coming so if isn't too much to type, can you give me a hint how to make symlinks?
[09:33] <sven> sn9: or can I copy some files to the plugin dir
[09:33] <nalioth> sven: open a terminal and type "man ln"
[09:33] <phr0zenkore> nalioth: thanks, finally someone responds (i had the idea they where all ignoring me), so i'll ask my questionm
[09:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sven about cli
[09:33] <sven> yeah, sorry
[09:33] <nalioth> sven: there is some reading material for you from ubotu
[09:33] <phr0zenkore> okay, i have an ATI Radeon 9250, and it has low fps rate, and DRI is not on, now my question is, how to fix that?
[09:33] <sven> ok
[09:34] <Mineself> sn9 Do I look under HOSTS?
[09:34] <rybarnes> Is ther any way to share files between 2 Operating Systems on one hard drive?
[09:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell phr0zenkore about dri
[09:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rybarnes about mountwindows
[09:34] <herdh> phr0zenkore, there is no fix in ubuntu
[09:34] <phr0zenkore> .... i don't see anything
[09:34] <rybarnes> nalioth thanks.
[09:34] <scummbar> so, i don't find a way that I could know if anybody in gaim has telling me anything, a part from the sounds but the soud alarm it's ugly when you're listening music
[09:34] <HappyFool> !tell phr0zenkore about ati
[09:34] <sn9> sven: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplugin.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins/
[09:34] <Dav1> ubuntu: please can you give me an idea of how tha hell i am supose to learn everything about linux
[09:34] <Mineself> sn9 e no reference to CUPS in there
[09:34] <herdh> phr0zenkore, install slackware, windows or mandriva 2006 or by nvidia
[09:35] <Remmelas> phr0zenkore, i can point you to what i did to fix if you want
[09:35] <sn9> Mineself: nono, the lo interface
[09:35] <HappyFool> herdh: you want to erase fglrx.ko ?
[09:35] <phr0zenkore> yay, thanks
[09:35] <Mineself> sn9 Um.... where do I go?
[09:35] <sn9> Mineself: it has to be active
[09:35] <phr0zenkore> does that work for Breezy too?
[09:35] <Remmelas> one sec, gotta grab the url
[09:35] <nalioth> phr0zenkore: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23906.html
[09:35] <Remmelas> i did it in breezy
[09:36] <sven> sn9: processed the command
[09:36] <eds01> is ubuntu good for a first time linux user?
[09:36] <Remmelas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MikeBedwell#head-8d46121407a74bb858ea1b24dba709930c581705
[09:36] <herdh> HappyFool, yes i want delete
[09:36] <sn9> Mineself: network-admin should show you lo, eth0, etc.
[09:36] <Mineself> sn9 I think I need some more specifics to follow you. I am pafully new here
[09:36] <Remmelas> phr0zenkore: i put the 2 steps on my wiki page so i could remember them.
[09:36] <Mineself> sn9 ok I saw the et0 listing the IP address
[09:36] <HappyFool> herdh: did you install it via the fglrx package?
[09:36] <lea> HappyFool,  i had the root by default, i did removed it, but  having it or no doesnt change anything in my problem...or so it seems.   i'm still searching..
[09:36] <mamoru> eds01, i think yes :)
[09:36] <nalioth> eds01: yes it is quite friendly
[09:36] <sn9> Mineself: what about lo ?
[09:37] <eds01> my school librarians millenium edition computers acting up, and i thought ubuntu might be a god repalcement
[09:37] <sven> sn9: I think I need to get the books first, I need to learn too much...
[09:37] <herdh> HappyFool, yes but there was not direct rendering
[09:37] <sn9> sven: relaunch opera
[09:37] <sven> sn9: did that but it still doesn't show in the plugins list
[09:37] <phr0zenkore> Remmelas: yea, but i forgot your name and the url
[09:37] <phr0zenkore> but i'm gonna reboot, k?
[09:37] <nalioth> eds01: check out edubuntu
[09:37] <herdh> and try many times rm /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/fglrx.ko and it always there is
[09:37] <Remmelas> k, if you need, i'll repaste when u come back
[09:37] <eds01> ok
[09:37] <HappyFool> herdh: you know what the package is? i have nvidia here, i can't check the details
[09:37] <phr0zenkore> okay, thnx
[09:37] <phr0zenkore> ^^
[09:38] <eds01> its her home machine though
[09:38] <Mineself> sn9 Under Network Settings I see the folloing
[09:38] <nalioth> eds01: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EduBuntu
[09:38] <sn9> sven: are you sure the path you typed for the .so file was the same as synaptic showed you?
[09:38] <eds01> i think ill lend her my knoppix cd so she can test out linux first
[09:38] <phr0zenkore> Remmelas: when i come in, say it's you XD
[09:38] <eds01> thanks
[09:38] <nalioth> eds01: then any of them would be good for her
[09:38] <Mineself> sn9: ::l     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[09:38] <herdh> HappyFool, i tomorrow buy nvidia
[09:38] <HappyFool> herdh: hmm
[09:38] <Mineself> sn9 It is Greek to me
[09:38] <sven> sn9: I copy/pasted it from there
[09:38] <LasseL> redeeman, back, you had to take care of the baby (and get a beer) :)
[09:38] <MenZa^> What's the livecd for?
[09:38] <HappyFool> herdh: odd, fglrx.ko is not owned by any package
[09:39] <redeeman> LasseL: cius already figured it out
[09:39] <HappyFool> nor is nvidia.ko *puzzlement*
[09:39] <redeeman> LasseL: it seems both smbmnt and smbfs package provides smbmnt and smbmount binaries
[09:39] <sn9> Mineself: in the main window there is an Activate button
[09:39] <HappyFool> herdh: have you read the ati page on the wiki?
[09:39] <LasseL> redeeman, what was the solution then
[09:39] <Mineself> sn9: That was under the HOSTS tab of Network Settings.
[09:39] <herdh> HappyFool,  is not owned but why cant rm it?
[09:39] <sven> sn9: it isn't as easy as in Windows? Placing a file in the plugins folder (probably not)
[09:39] <sn9> Mineself: not HOTSTS, the main tab
[09:39] <HappyFool> herdh: i don't know. Have you read the ati page on the wiki?
[09:39] <MenZa^> Does anyone know?
[09:39] <Mineself> sn9: yes I see it. It is faded out
[09:40] <MenZa^> What the livecd is for?
[09:40] <nalioth> MenZa^: to test compatibility, rescue botched windows systems, and demonstrate how easy linux is
[09:40] <MenZa^> Oh right
[09:40] <herdh> HappyFool, i read meny tutorials and ATI dont work
[09:40] <incompetence> anybody here using gkrellm with ubuntu 5.10-amd64
[09:40] <MenZa^> If I'm new to linux - is it recommended to download?
[09:40] <Mineself> sn9: I can't click it becaus eit is faded & disabled
[09:40] <sn9> Mineself: click the lo interface, and activate it
[09:40] <bobbyd> herdh, sell your ATI card and buy and Nvidia one
[09:41] <HappyFool> *sigh* yay for saturated dial-up connections
[09:41] <Mineself> sn9: I dont have LO listed . Only the sth0 internet connection and a moden conection listed
[09:41] <poningru> sn9: hmm I cant find the table
[09:41] <poningru> can you point me toward it?
[09:41] <phr0zenkore> alright, Remmelas
[09:41] <sn9> sven: look in synaptic again. you may have to scroll horizontally
[09:41] <phr0zenkore> DRI is on
[09:41] <phr0zenkore> still slow FPS
[09:42] <phr0zenkore> well, glxgears doesn't show me the fps, but X boots up slowly and glxgears is slow
[09:42] <Mineself> sn9: There is no  lo interface listed
[09:42] <Remmelas> glxinfo | grep -i dri gives output?
[09:42] <sn9> poningru: http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz
[09:42] <HappyFool> phr0zenkore: try 'glxgears -printfps'
[09:42] <sven> sn9: what am I looking for, what kind of file
[09:42] <sn9> sven: .so
[09:42] <poningru> sn9: doh thanks
[09:42] <HappyFool> phr0zenkore: it looks like the glxgears author put in some sort of timing
[09:42] <phr0zenkore> 1123.516
[09:42] <phr0zenkore> wtf?
[09:42] <phr0zenkore> so it's normal?
[09:42] <phr0zenkore> yay! ^^
[09:42] <nalioth> phr0zenkore: you're cookin now
[09:43] <calamari> hi
[09:43] <phr0zenkore> i see, it works
[09:43] <phr0zenkore> wowie =)
[09:43] <sn9> Mineself: in that case type: sudo ifup lo
[09:43] <bliggy> hello... if anyone can help me with my vid issue it would be greatly appreciated... all the data so far is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=420642
[09:43] <phr0zenkore> the previous time i forgot loading the module
[09:43] <phr0zenkore> i didn't know i had to load it btw.
[09:44] <phr0zenkore> this fps rate is even better than the one at Debian! ^^
[09:44] <calamari> firefox has underscores everywhere for menus and webpages instead of letters.. how can I fix it?
[09:44] <Mineself> sn9: it says ifup: interface lo already configured
[09:44] <Heleborus> glxgears 12243 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2448.600 FPS radeon 9600xt
[09:44] <absenth> If I wanted an application to start whenever I log into Gnome, how would I go about doing that?  (Pointing me at a website is a perfectly acceptable solution btw)
[09:44] <lea> HappyFool,  I DID IT :)) ,  but i need a slap in the face for my error :      %Admin instead of %admin      in the sudoers.... arrrr
[09:44] <poningru> sn9: is that only cards supported under linux?
[09:44] <HappyFool> phr0zenkore: if you used 'nvidia-glx-config enable' the module be autoloadedon boot
[09:44] <calamari> absenth: sessions manager
[09:44] <HappyFool> lea: heh
[09:44] <poningru> or every card?
[09:44] <sn9> Mineself: ok. type: sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart
[09:44] <poningru> cause its not inthere
[09:44] <HappyFool> lea: gotta love computers ;)
[09:44] <sven> sn9: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in.so   /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-qt.so
[09:44] <sven> I think I got it
[09:44] <phr0zenkore> HappyFool: you mean ATI?
[09:44] <lea> indeed
[09:44] <crimsun> absenth: System> Preferences> Sessions> Startup Programs
[09:45] <sn9> poningru: it's everything
[09:45] <incompetence> absenth put it into the gnome-session
[09:45] <HappyFool> lea: it's still a little suspicious that it wasn't created during install
[09:45] <Mineself> sn9: OK I get * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                         [ ok ] 
[09:45] <HappyFool> phr0zenkore: err, i thought you had nvidia, sorry
[09:45] <poningru> sn9: guess its too new thanks though
[09:45] <phr0zenkore> HappyFool: that's okay =)
[09:45] <lea> HappyFool,  yeah... just...weird... anyway, will get breezy now so :)
[09:45] <sven> sn9: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerpluginqt.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins/   ??
[09:45] <absenth> calamari: crimsun, DANKE!  :)
[09:46] <anindya> does apt-get work for upgrading firefox !
[09:46] <Dav1> mp3 problem i think you have told me this once the error is shown as follows
[09:46] <Dav1> Totem could not play 'file:///home/meho/gtk-gnutella-downloads/complete/Metallica - One _Acoustic Live_.mp3'.
[09:46] <sven> sn9: or should it be mplayerplug-in-qt.so
[09:46] <anindya> I am trying that seems not working...
[09:46] <sn9> sven: with dashes
[09:46] <HappyFool> lea: cool. good luck
[09:46] <unperson> I'm trying to get a serial mouse working in Breezy.
[09:46] <crimsun> Dav1: if you're using totem-gstreamer, you need gstreamer0.8-mad installed
[09:46] <phr0zenkore> Dav1: i had the url of the guide for mp3's.. but i lost it
[09:46] <ProN00b> i got one screen on an nvidia and one on a older ati, how do i get 3d on the ati screen ?
[09:46] <phr0zenkore> install w32codecs
[09:46] <phr0zenkore> and totem-xine
[09:46] <Dav1> no worries
[09:46] <sn9> Dav1: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:47] <unperson> I see the issue discussed in the forums for warty, but it says to reconfigure xserver-xfree86.  What do I do with xorg in breezy?
[09:47] <calamari> firefox has underscores everywhere for menus and webpages instead of letters.. how can I fix it?
[09:47] <sn9> unperson: xserver-xorg
[09:47] <unperson> I tried dpkg-reconfiger xserver-xorg, but it never asked me anything about the mouse.
[09:48] <unperson> s/reconfiger/reconfigure/
[09:48] <sn9> unperson: it does ask
[09:48] <Mineself> sn9: ok, I can get into the config wizard now !! Do I call it a local printer ?
[09:48] <unperson> sn9:  I just did it.  It never asked.
[09:48] <phr0zenkore> anyways, thanks for the help
[09:48] <phr0zenkore> =D
[09:48] <phr0zenkore> so that's why it was slow on debian, i had to use fglrx..
[09:48] <sn9> Mineself: if it's usb, then yes
[09:48] <unperson> sn9:  Is it possible it's an issue of the settings for the priority of questions asked in dpkg/apt?
[09:49] <sn9> unperson: sure
[09:49] <mark_ramm> I am having a bit of trouble with a package that I can neither install or remove.
[09:49] <mark_ramm> if I try installing it I get: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/eclipse-ecj_3.1.1-1ubuntu3_all.deb: there is no script in the new version of the package - giving up
[09:49] <calamari> firefox has underscores everywhere for menus and webpages instead of letters.. how can I fix it?
[09:49] <MaTaKs> why i got this error when i try to do the command: $ make menuconfig    "tools/convconf.c:81: error: label at end of compound statement" help anyone?
[09:50] <sn9> mark_ramm: dpkg --purge eclipse-ecj
[09:50] <mamoru> one more question, please. I want to have OpenGL header files, howto?
[09:50] <mark_ramm> if I try removing it i get: E: eclipse-ecj: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[09:50] <sn9> mark_ramm: dpkg --purge eclipse-ecj
[09:50] <Mineself> sn9: ok now it wants the model of the printer. I Choose Samsung as MFR but dont have a listing for the CLP-510 Listed
[09:50] <sven> sn9: still doesn't work, I need to study linux first, thanks anyway!!
[09:51] <Zoohouse_> Hello everyone
[09:51] <unperson> sn9:  Do you recall how I change the level of questions asked?>
[09:51] <nalioth> mamoru: search in synaptic for "opengl" and install the -dev pkgs to match what you have already installed
[09:51] <mark_ramm> sn9:  when I do that I get: E: eclipse-ecj: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[09:51] <Mineself> Osn9: ok I found the driver but the printer is doing nothing when I tell it to print a test page
[09:51] <stimpie> how do I install mplayer on amd64?
[09:52] <Mineself> sn9: It tells me Test page successfully sent to printer. Wait until printing is complete, then click the OK button.
[09:52] <mamoru> nalioth, thx gonna try
[09:52] <nalioth> mark_ramm: open a terminal and type "dpkg --force-help"
[09:52] <Mineself> sn9: but the printer is still not responding
[09:52] <calamari> firefox has underscores everywhere for menus and webpages instead of letters.. how can I fix it?
[09:52] <sven> sn9: if you were paid on cent per question you would be a millionaire...  good job!
[09:52] <chrisbudden14> Hello.  Wifi-radar is not allowing me to edit the wireless profile of my network.  Is there a .conf type file i can go into?
[09:52] <bliggy> hello... if anyone can help me with my vid issue it would be greatly appreciated... all the data so far is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=420642  ... in a nutshell I need to figure out teh xx:xx:xx value that xserver-xorg needs to know the PCI data for my vid card
[09:52] <sn9> Mineself: is the queue named "colorlaser" ?
[09:53] <stimpie> bliggy, lspci
[09:53] <sn9> chrisbudden14: /etc/network/interfaces
[09:53] <bliggy> stimpie... i tried... teh vale comes back as0000:01:0b.0... xserver-xorg says its not a valid entry
[09:54] <Dav1> I am still confused about what i need to do to get my mp3s to play on ubuntu linux
[09:54] <sa> hallo
[09:54] <crimsun> Dav1: install gstreamer0.8-mad and totem-xine
[09:54] <chrisbudden14> sn9 is that specifically for wifi-radar?
[09:54] <mark_ramm> Thanks.   I tried sudo dkpg --force-remove-restreq eclipse-ecj
[09:54] <mamoru> nalioth, whoa there's a lot of results... Just wondering which one should i install; gonna try myself
[09:54] <crimsun> Dav1: that will cover just about all the cases
[09:54] <sn9> Dav1: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:54] <ichi> Help ! How can i turn of tool tips in Gnome ?
[09:55] <phr0zenkore> why doesn't ubotu work in private/
[09:55] <disasm> is oss emulation broken in breezy? i keep getting -bash: /dev/dsp: No such device as root when i try to cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[09:55] <phr0zenkore> ?
[09:55] <phr0zenkore> !ati
[09:55] <ubotu> well, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[09:55] <mark_ramm> but I don't get anything then
[09:55] <sn9> chrisbudden14: it's general
[09:55] <crimsun> disasm: make sure snd-pcm-oss is loaded
[09:55] <phr0zenkore> !tell phr0zenkore about msn
[09:55] <nalioth> mamoru: usually you would install a -dev pkg to match what is on your system already
[09:55] <phr0zenkore> !tell phr0zenkore about gaim
[09:55] <disasm> however it does work for me on amd64 breezy
[09:55] <Mineself> sn9: I had an aborted attempt at loading a different printer That I had to delete. This time it let me name the printer as colorlaser
[09:55] <chrisbudden14> sn9 it seemes to be wrong, but im on the net
[09:55] <crimsun> disasm: erm, you just contradicted yourself :-)
[09:55] <phr0zenkore> .. oh, i'm not identified
[09:55] <phr0zenkore> lol
[09:55] <disasm> crimsun: yeah snd-pcm-oss and snd-pcm-mixer are both loaded
[09:56] <dmoyne> hello : what is the meaning of this message :
[09:56] <chrisbudden14> hey
[09:56] <vladuz976> anybody know what file i need to modify to change my computers name?
[09:56] <disasm> crimsun: sorry didnt clarify, its broken on my x86 breezy box
[09:56] <Mineself> sn9: still nothing to the printer when I tell it to print a test page though
[09:56] <dmoyne> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:56] <stimpie> bliggy, hmm I just read the forum, cant help you with that.
[09:56] <bliggy> stimpie... ok np... thanks man
[09:56] <crimsun> disasm: works fine on Breezy. cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:57] <Mineself> sn9: I see the prit test queued
[09:57] <sn9> Mineself: did you select the ppd file?
[09:57] <dmoyne> can we get 3D DRI with Breezy ?
[09:57] <Cryptid> I WANT TO MAKE A ENTRY OF K3b IN Application>Accessories> how do i do it?
[09:57] <sn9> dmoyne: yes, of course
[09:57] <crimsun> dmoyne: are you using an Nvidia card?
[09:57] <disasm> crimsun: alsa works fine, it's just oss... and it works fine with the old hoary kernel, wonder whats setup wrong
[09:58] <Mineself> sn9: yes I did
[09:58] <crimsun> disasm: waiting for your answer.
[09:58] <dmoyne> nope I have a 3dfx connected on a Samsung 19 " 930BF 1280 x 1024 !
[09:58] <sn9> Mineself: what did you set the device to?
[09:58] <spayne> is there any way to reinstall GRUB using the Ubuntu Install CD?
[09:58] <spayne> without reinstalling ubuntu
[09:58] <_JuDgEn_> roflcopter
[09:58] <crimsun> spayne: you can use the live cd if you wish.
[09:59] <nalioth> spayne: yes
[09:59] <akosh> hi
[09:59] <disasm> crimsun: 0 [V8235          ] : VIA8233 - VIA 8235   VIA 8235 with ALC650F at 0xdc00, irq 22   -  I also have a 2nd device which is my wintv card
[09:59] <dmoyne> when I do glxinfo I collect this :"Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:59] <dmoyne> Screen 0: not direct rendering capable.
[09:59] <dmoyne> "
[09:59] <specialbuddy> how do you find files with the new konquerer?
[09:59] <spayne> nalioth: how?
[09:59] <_JuDgEn_> how big linux related markertshare does ubuntu have nowdays
[09:59] <tr3vis> how do you get glxgears to show fps?
[09:59] <spayne> _JuDgEn_: offically around 1%
[09:59] <sn9> dmoyne: you're not loading dri
[10:00] <Cryptid> nalioth, I WANT TO MAKE A ENTRY OF K3b IN Application>Accessories> how do i do it?
[10:00] <crimsun> disasm: does aplay(1) work?
[10:00] <nalioth> spayne: start the install, as soon as you get past the language and keyboard thing, and can click "go back", go back
[10:00] <Mineself> sn9: how do I get back into the setup to find that out ?
[10:00] <sn9> Cryptid: use smeg
[10:00] <dmoyne> how do you make sure DRI is loaded !
[10:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Cryptid about smeg
[10:00] <mark_ramm> nalioth:  I tried the --force-remove-renstreq eclipse-ecj which seems to be the right command, but i get an error remove-renstreq is an unknown force option, am i doing something stupid?
[10:00] <sn9> Mineself: use the browser
[10:00] <spayne> nalioth: i select Install GRUB and it goes to paritioning
[10:00] <mamoru> hmmm
[10:00] <Cryptid> sn9, how to use it please tell
[10:00] <sn9> !smeg
[10:00] <ubotu> it has been said that smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Installed by default in Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy). For Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[10:00] <nalioth> spayne: then idk
[10:01] <mamoru> redeeman, how do you know what header files you have?
[10:01] <specialbuddy> how do I find files with Konquerer?
[10:01] <dmoyne> glxgears is cahotic on display !
[10:01] <Mineself> sn9: I opened the IPP report for the printer& it tells me : Unable to open USB device "usb://Samsung/CLP-510": No such device
[10:01] <redeeman> mamoru: they are located in /usr/include
[10:01] <mamoru> redeeman, thx gonna see
[10:01] <sn9> Mineself: you set the device wrong
[10:01] <redeeman> np
[10:02] <Mineself> sn9: Doh !!! Where do I go to fix it ?
[10:02] <dmoyne>  sn9 : how do you make sure DRI is loaded ?
[10:02] <sn9> Mineself: why don't you just use gnome-printer?
[10:02] <specialbuddy> how do I find things on konquerer?
[10:02] <Mineself> sn9: I didnt know it was an option..
[10:03] <specialbuddy> the new Konquerer sucks
[10:03] <dmoyne>    sn9 : neither did I
[10:03] <Mineself> sn9: what should I have used for the correct device ?
[10:03] <sn9> dmoyne: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:04] <garba> good evening! anybody knows how to get rid of the diarreah-like background color i get when i log in before my theme is applied?
[10:04] <dmoyne> I went though this many times but it lead nowhere !
[10:04] <joe666> hi, what do I need to do to get an encryption option when right clicking a file in nautilus ?
[10:04] <Mineself> sn9: I think I am close to getting it working ! I DO appreciate your help & patience !
[10:04] <sn9> dmoyne: there is a screen in there where you select modules to load
[10:04] <Mineself> sn9: do I need to go into CUPS & configure something?
[10:05] <sn9> Mineself: not really
[10:05] <calamari> where is Run.... ?
[10:05] <calamari> it's no longer on my menu?
[10:05] <gean> hi world ! 2nd day of ubuntu, 1st day here..
[10:05] <dmoyne>  sn9: yes but DRI is selected
[10:05] <kashms> Alt-F2
[10:05] <sn9> dmoyne: which card?
[10:05] <Mineself> sn9: I'll delete the printer & run though the setup again to see where I went wrong
[10:05] <calamari> kasms: no effect
[10:05] <dmoyne> sn9 : 3Dfx Voodoo 3
[10:06] <sn9> kashms: that's kde
[10:06] <kashms> works on mine
[10:06] <shyru> hi!
[10:06] <kashms> using breezy gnome
[10:06] <shyru> somebody help me??
[10:06] <lea> i need my download to finish fast, can everybody upgrading to breezy jsut log off ?
[10:06] <lea> :P
[10:06] <sn9> dmoyne: and which video driver did you select?
[10:06] <calamari> can I put Run back on my menu.. that's a huge loss of functionality
[10:06] <redeeman> sn9: do you use ndiswrapper?
[10:06] <shyru> i have a problem with ubuntu
[10:06] <dmoyne>  sn9 : tdfx
[10:07] <johns^> calamari: alt-f2 works also
[10:07] <johns^> :)
[10:07] <sn9> redeeman: i'm on ppc
[10:07] <Mineself> sn9: when I get to local port selection I see there is Samsung SLP-510 listed under USB Printer#1. That is what I selected the last time
[10:07] <absenth> this qualifies as a dumb question, but how do I change the screen between the login and my desktop in gnome?
[10:07] <absenth> I assume that would be a gnome "splash screen":
[10:07] <calamari> johns^: alt-f2 doesn't do anything here
[10:07] <Dav1> how do i install gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:07] <calamari> can I put Run back on my menu.. that's a huge loss of functionality
[10:07] <sn9> dmoyne: don't know then
[10:07] <johns^> ah strange. You use gnome?
[10:07] <frickel> shyru: whats wrong?
[10:07] <dmoyne> sn9 : when I do lsmod I have tdfxfb loaded
[10:08] <sn9> Dav1: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:08] <Dav1> ty
[10:08] <shyru> frickel, i can not logging on gnome
[10:08] <dmoyne> sn9 : thanks anyway
[10:09] <frickel> shyru: explain further
[10:09] <calamari> johns^: yeah, just upgraded to breezy.. I hate ubuntu upgrades, theny always make my system worse .. hehe
[10:09] <johns^> ah me2
[10:09] <Cryptid> sn9, what should the extension of a script file be ? is it .sh
[10:09] <crimsun> disasm: did you ever answer my question regarding aplay(1)?
[10:09] <sn9> dmoyne: one possibility i have encountered:
[10:09] <johns^> but I never missed the run command
[10:09] <sn9> Cryptid: whatever you like
[10:09] <specialbuddy> does anyone know how to find a file?
[10:09] <shyru> frickel, after i have ubuntu hoary and no pronblen with gnome desk, then i update to breezy, ando i can not auth on gnome (gdm?)
[10:09] <johns^> specialbuddy: locate
[10:10] <rlynch> im trying to play a .wmv file through totem, and the video it shows is the same as when i play an mp3 through it (the patterns etc.)
[10:10] <specialbuddy> on konquerer?
[10:10] <magnusthe> specialbuddy, `find`or `slocate`
[10:10] <Cryptid> sn9, meaning > and how do i run those scripts
[10:10] <sn9> dmoyne: dri uses more VRAM. are you sure you have enough?
[10:10] <shyru> frickel, any idea?
[10:10] <specialbuddy> where is 'find' at in Konquerer?
[10:10] <johntramp> hey, I have only been using ubuntu a few days now, and I am wondering what the backports mirrors are about?  Have they been pulled offline because they were unofficial ?
[10:10] <johns^> calamari: do you want it in the menu? you could make alt-f2 work
[10:10] <frickel> shyru: did you peform a full upgrade?
[10:10] <nalioth> rlynch: modern wmvs will not play in linux
[10:10] <sn9> Cryptid: bash scriptname
[10:10] <calamari> johns^: sure, I'd love a run menu option
[10:10] <Mineself> sn9: what URL should I be using to define the printer post ?
[10:10] <crimsun> nalioth: the wmv9s?
[10:10] <nalioth> johns^: backports are programs that are ported back from the next version of ubuntu
[10:10] <Mineself> sn9: I mean port?
[10:11] <dmoyne> sn9 : you mean the ram on the graphic card ?
[10:11] <gean> any1 any idea, why k3b does not work properly on ubuntu ?! (ERROR: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[10:11] <batman> ok i'm trying to install airsnort and in the install file it says to do the following ./configure, make, make file but when i get to the make part it says that there isn't such a command
[10:11] <nalioth> crimsun: wmv3 doesnt play iirc
[10:11] <Mineself> sn9: It reads usb://Samsung/CLP-510 right now
[10:11] <shyru> frickel, yeah, i did type: apt-get update ;apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:11] <rlynch> nalioth: well none of the repositories have w32 codecs
[10:11] <sn9> nalioth: yes it does
[10:11] <crimsun> nalioth: hmm. I thought I had enabled support for that in ffmpeg.
[10:11] <ka24> plays fine here
[10:11] <johntramp> it seems there are a lot of important packages, mostly multimedia related, which are not on the official mirrors and should be on the backports mirrors according to what I have read on the forums
[10:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rlynch about w32codecs
[10:11] <mark_ramm> I tried removing the eclipse-ecj package with a standard remove, I tried re-installing it and then removing it.  Now, thanks to naliolth I tried: sudo dpkg --force all --purge eclipse-ecj
[10:11] <ka24> in fact, i've never come across a wmv that wouldnt play in linux/freebsd
[10:11] <mark_ramm> but I still get the same error about a post removal script every time
[10:11] <johntramp> nalioth, so why are all the mirrors offline?
[10:11] <specialbuddy> so I'm guessing that there is no find anymore in Konquerer?
[10:11] <sn9> crimsun: wmv3 can't use ffmpeg
[10:11] <crimsun> johntramp: the mirrors are online.
[10:12] <frickel> shyru: but you can log in as your normal user
[10:12] <ark_> Hey, I have a Senao Prism 2.5 SL2511 wireless PCMCIA card, but Breezy loads the orinoco modules. It would be much better if it loaded the hostap modules. Anyone know how I can make Breezy load the hostap modules instead?
[10:12] <nalioth> johntramp: the next version of ubuntu - dapper drake - has not begun development. hence, no backports
[10:12] <dmoyne> sn9 : my 3Dfx has 16 Mb SDRAM
[10:12] <johntramp> cribbon, oh, can you give me one for eg?
[10:12] <batman> ok i'm trying to install airsnort and in the install file it says to do the following ./configure, make, make file but when i get to the make part it says that there isn't such a command
[10:12] <magnusthe> ark_ have you tried putting the module to load in /etc/modules?
[10:12] <crimsun> johntramp: wiki/Archive
[10:12] <mark_ramm> but I still get the same error about a post removal script every time
[10:12] <nalioth> batman: install "build-essential"
[10:12] <Cryptid> sn9, please visit this page i have to run this script what do i do to get it running http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg
[10:13] <specialbuddy> where is find?
[10:13] <disasm> crimsun: yeah, aplay works, sorry, i'm wireless right now and lost connection to my server i have my irc client running on
[10:13] <ark_> magnus: I was going to... but should I remove orinoco from /etc/modules too?
[10:13] <magnusthe> ark_ if it's in there, then yes, remove it
[10:13] <johntramp> nalioth, ok, so where should I find amarok for example?
[10:13] <johntramp> nalioth, would that be in the backports if they were online?
[10:13] <ark_> ok thanks I'll try that :)
[10:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell johntramp about sources
[10:13] <batman> nalioth: it says too few arguments
[10:13] <gean> please give me some help about that toaster: k3b ! (the gnomebaker is also an alternative, i know, but i like k3b)
[10:14] <nalioth> johntramp: you need to enable all your ubuntu repos
[10:14] <sn9> Cryptid: i have no idea what you're trying to do; i don't know python
[10:14] <magnusthe> ark_ you can always comment out lines in /etc/modules (so you don't forget what was in there to begin with)
[10:14] <johntramp> nalioth, I know about sources, and I have enabled universe, but its not there
[10:14] <mark_ramm> Here's the results of my command to remove the package: $ sudo dpkg --force remove-reinstreq --purge eclipse-ecj
[10:14] <mark_ramm>  / (Reading database ... 89780 files and directories currently installed.)
[10:14] <mark_ramm> Removing eclipse-ecj ...
[10:14] <mark_ramm> /var/lib/dpkg/info/eclipse-ecj.postrm: line 5: /usr/sbin/update-gcj-classmaps-eclipse: No such file or directory
[10:14] <mark_ramm> dpkg: error processing eclipse-ecj (--purge):
[10:14] <mark_ramm>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[10:14] <mark_ramm>  /Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:14] <rory> help
[10:14] <mark_ramm>  eclipse-ecj
[10:14] <nalioth> batman: if you've got 'build-essential' installed and are still getting that, then you'll need to read more closely the docs
[10:14] <rlynch> nalioth: so recent .wmv's won't play?
[10:14] <moogman> Hey, is there a way to edit id3 tags in Rhythmbox, with Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:14] <nalioth> mark_ramm: pasting will get you removed. it's very impolite
[10:14] <ark_> magnusthe: yeah I'll try it now :)
[10:14] <rory> help i cant install any thing
[10:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mark_ramm about paste
[10:15] <magnusthe> ark_ good luck!
[10:15] <sn9> Mineself: there should be something like /dev/usb/lp0 somewhere
[10:15] <bozel> hi
[10:15] <magnusthe> mark_ramm use a pastebin
[10:15] <johns^> rory: why not?
[10:15] <calamari> please can someone help me?  firefox does not shwo any letters.. what I had previously thought were underscores were actually the accelerator lines.
[10:15] <nalioth> johntramp: watch ubotu
[10:15] <nalioth> !info amarok
[10:15] <gean> rory, try that synap[tic in System -> Administration -> ..
[10:15] <ubotu> amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5191 kB, Installed size: 13888 kB
[10:15] <disasm> calamari: upgrading to breezy?
[10:15] <absenth> is the screen between the login window, and your desktop (it's brown, says ubuntu, loads gnome icons) a gnome splash screen?  and if so, how do I replace the image with something less.....  brown?
[10:15] <calamari> disasm: yeah
[10:16] <bozel> i compile my c++ project, it says "cout" undeclared
[10:16] <bozel> whats the problem?
[10:16] <gean> please give me some help about that toaster: k3b ! (the gnomebaker is also an alternative, i know, but i like k3b)
[10:16] <GURT> absenth, i always wondered taht too
[10:16] <gean> any1 any idea, why k3b does not work properly on ubuntu ?! (ERROR: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[10:16] <disasm> calamari: i had the same problem, had a conflict upgrading with a package
[10:16] <disasm> calamari: try apt-get -f install
[10:16] <Dav1> the apt-get install code is not working for me can anyone give me more assistance i am in the root pannel
[10:16] <mamoru> h
[10:16] <bozel> i compile my c++ project, it says "cout" undeclared
[10:17] <bozel> whats the problem?
[10:17] <sn9> Dav1: what error?
[10:17] <mwe> bozel: you have using namespace std in there or std::cout ?
[10:17] <crimsun> disasm: what if you unload and reload snd-pcm-oss?
[10:17] <disasm> calamari: then once that succeeds do apt-get dist-upgrade againn and watch for the error where it crashes
[10:17] <bozel> ah ok
[10:17] <bozel> thx
[10:17] <magnusthe> bozel, use std::cout instead
[10:17] <bliggy> [spam]  if anyone can help me with my vid issue it would be greatly appreciated... all the data so far is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=420642 [/spam] 
[10:17] <LasseL> bozel, I am sure there is a good c++ channel somewhere
[10:17] <ichi> Help ! How can i turn of tool tips in Gnome ?
[10:17] <bozel> thx
[10:17] <nalioth> Dav1: get out of the root terminal
[10:17] <bozel> its working now
[10:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dav1 about root
[10:17] <disasm> crimsun: same error, no such device
[10:17] <iceman64> what breezy command for apt get
[10:17] <KanRiNiN> hey, what's a good room to get help installing quakeforge in ubuntu?  I've downloaded all dependencies, but it still doesn't install correctly.
[10:17] <Dav1> no error i am trying to install a programme called gstreamer0.8-mad_0.8.8-2_amd64
[10:18] <crimsun> disasm: ls -l /dev/dsp*
[10:18] <disasm> iceman64: apt-get? teh commands the same
[10:18] <magnusthe> bozel, take a look at namespaces in C++, it's a nice useful thing :)
[10:18] <bozel> i programmed to much with winows
[10:18] <bozel> *windows
[10:18] <mamoru> is there any good editor for c/c++ ?
[10:18] <magnusthe> bozel, well, it's never too late to see the light
[10:18] <sn9> Dav1: either you get an error or it worked
[10:18] <nalioth> Dav1: use synaptic
[10:18] <bozel> ;)
[10:18] <magnusthe> mamoru, vim is the best editor, of course
[10:18] <disasm> crimsun: crw-rw----  1 root audio 14,  3 2005-10-17 09:27 /dev/dsp
[10:18] <nalioth> Dav1: make sure your repos are enabled
[10:18] <bozel> i use anjuta for c++
[10:19] <calamari> disasm: trying, thanks for your help
[10:19] <ptlo> mamoru, if you want something like visual studio ide, look at anjuta (or eclipse, which is java-based, but afaik can be used with c/c++ also)
[10:19] <cius> mamoru, use any text editor, the default gnome one highlights syntax for you
[10:19] <Dav1> i get that the package was not found
[10:19] <ark_> magnusthe:/etc/modules only contains lp, mousedev and psmouse. I could add hostap and that would probably load, but I already did a modprobe hostap once but upon inserting my card, the card was still claimed bu orinoco...
[10:19] <nalioth> magnusthe: personal prefs in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:19] <mamoru> magnusthe, of course, how could i forget!
[10:19] <iceman64> god i have trying to find a root terminal in gnome .. gnome sucks
[10:19] <mamoru> cius, the default gedit doesn't auto-indent
[10:19] <magnusthe> nalioth, sorry for that
[10:19] <mamoru> ptlo, anjuta? gonna try, thx!
[10:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dav1 about synaptic
[10:19] <magnusthe> mamoru, I think you can get it to auto indent, check the plugins
[10:19] <sn9> iceman64: it's disabled by default
[10:19] <crimsun> disasm: groups|grep audio
[10:19] <cius> mamoru, oh, I'm so used to indenting myself, I never noticed...:-)
[10:20] <calamari> disasm: unfortunatly it did not do the trick for me
[10:20] <iceman64> as i said .. gnome sucks
[10:20] <netstar> nah gnome doesn't suck
[10:20] <nalioth> iceman64: it's not a gnome decision, it's an ubuntu decision
[10:20] <magnusthe> ark_ it'd be worth trying anyway
[10:20] <TheDiff> woah
[10:20] <sn9> Dav1: you need to enable some repositories
[10:20] <TheDiff> this channel is huge
[10:20] <magnusthe> can you remove the orinoco module?
[10:21] <sn9> !tell Dav1 about repos
[10:21] <iceman64> how the hell to install kde in breezy
[10:21] <ark_> ok... I will!
[10:21] <TheDiff> can someone confirm for me that the prismstumbler package is broken
[10:21] <disasm> crimsun: as root nothing, as user mythtv cdrom floppy audio video
[10:21] <nalioth> iceman64: install "kubuntu-desktop"
[10:21] <magnusthe> ark_ if it doesn
[10:21] <crimsun> disasm: which tv tuner module are you using?
[10:21] <disasm> calamari: any error?
[10:21] <sn9> iceman64: pkg name is kubuntu-desktop
[10:21] <disasm> crimsun: hauppaug wintv go
[10:21] <calamari> disasm: nope
[10:21] <[A] ndy80> hi
[10:21] <magnusthe> ark_ if it doesn't work you'll probably need to "blacklist" the orinoco module
[10:21] <crimsun> disasm: which is what kernel module?
[10:22] <samu> Out with ubuntu, in with windows...
[10:22] <netstar> iceman64, as far as looks goes, I can get my gnome desktop looking much smoother and  more polished than any KDE desktop, which always seems to have a feel of plastic to it (and not from the use of the similarly named theme.)
[10:22] <Mineself> sn9: Nothing like thatsn9: it sayst that lp0 does not correspond with a detected port but it does show the Samsung CLP-510 attached to the USB Printer#1 position
[10:22] <disasm> crimsun: bt878
[10:22] <absenth> where did ubuntu breezy hide the gnome configuration tool?
[10:22] <netstar> system tools
[10:22] <sn9> Mineself: you shouldnt use /dev/lp0
[10:22] <crimsun> disasm: ah, that's why.
[10:22] <mamoru> gentlemen, how to apt-get a package from universe?
[10:22] <calamari> disasm: however I do the the following: The following packages have been kept back:
[10:22] <calamari>   gnome-app-install libgda2-common libopenal0 python-imaging
[10:22] <calamari>   python-imaging-sane python2.4-id3lib python2.4-musicbrainz rhythmbox yelp
[10:22] <crimsun> disasm: bt878 takes over /dev/dsp
[10:22] <ark_> Ok, blacklist is an ida. :) ...also, do I add hostap and hostap_cs to /etc/modules or are the more 'submodules' to be loaded?
[10:22] <nalioth> absenth: install gtweakui
[10:23] <crimsun> disasm: unload it and snd-pcm-oss, then reload snd-pcm-oss
[10:23] <ark_> or maybe just 'hostap'?
[10:23] <absenth> ok I really am almost completely stupid, thanks netstar
[10:23] <bluefrog-10> mamoru: enable unoverse in synaptic
[10:23] <TheDiff> :'(
[10:23] <magnusthe> ark_ I believe dependencies will be loaded automagically (like modprobe)
[10:23] <[A] ndy80> I've this in /etc/exports on a server: /home 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw)       I try to mount that dir with this command, from another pc: mount -t nfs 192.168.0.2:/home /home/andy80/provanfs/ but I get this error: mount: 192.168.0.2:/home failed, reason given by server: Permission denied. How can I fix this?
[10:23] <iceman64> i like the configuration ability, look and feel on kde ... never have taken to gnome ... and been using linux since red hat 5.3
[10:23] <Mineself> sn9: I can't use that. Its not even an option listed
[10:23] <mamoru> bluefrog-10, is that the only possible way?
[10:23] <ark_> ok, so I guess only "hostap" would suffice then.
[10:24] <sn9> Mineself: you said lp0 not a detected port
[10:24] <icewt> i get no sound when using kaffeine-xine. anyone know what could be wrong?
[10:24] <netstar> [A] ndy80, make sure the server and client both support the NFS version you are using in the kernel.
[10:24] <bluefrog-10> mamoru: uncomment the line by hand if u prefer
[10:24] <ark_> Done. Should I reboot?
[10:24] <Mineself> sn9: when I choos ethe Samsung CLP-510 & hit the test button, nothing happes. Could it be the USB Hub I am using is messing with it?
[10:24] <netstar> [A] ndy80, this is a common cause of this problem.
[10:24] <jeff303> is there any way to run fsck to check for bad blocks from ubuntu, before partitions are mounted, so I don't have to use another LiveCD to do it?
[10:24] <sn9> Mineself: yes
[10:24] <[A] ndy80> netstar: how can I check this? Here I've an Ubuntu Breezy (PC), server is a Debian testing
[10:25] <netstar> check /proc/config.gz
[10:25] <Mineself> sn9: let me disconnect it & try again
[10:25] <magnusthe> ark_ depends, you only modified /etc/modules, right? then you need to reboot to try it... you can always remove the orinoco module
[10:25] <mamoru> bluefrog-10, there was some cool command line
[10:25] <absenth> ok, that's scary
[10:25] <absenth> Gnome has a registry......
[10:25] <ark_> Right!
[10:25] <sn9> jeff303: fsck doesn't check for bad blocks
[10:25] <ark_> brb
[10:25] <netstar> any ppc users here?
[10:25] <jeff303> sn9:  hmm well I'm pretty sure I used e2fsck before to do it
[10:25] <bluefrog-10> mamoru: sysnaptic has some cool gui
[10:25] <Mineself> sn9: Opps, I already had done that. It prints fine ffrom the Win2k boot on the machine so I know tha hardware is all working
[10:25] <disasm> crimsun: i think i got all the bttv modules removed: http://irc.gentux.org:8000/lsmod.txt
[10:25] <nalioth> netstar: yes many of us
[10:25] <sn9> jeff303: no, that's like chkdisk & scandisk
[10:26] <netstar> nalioth, what system spec do you have?
[10:26] <mamoru> bluefrog-10, :) but still command-line rules
[10:26] <nalioth> netstar: i have several macs running ubuntu
[10:26] <LasseL> bluefrog-10, no, synaptic has a gui :)
[10:26] <sn9> netstar: ppc here
[10:26] <netstar> any ppc nvidia users?
[10:26] <nalioth> netstar: yes many of us
[10:26] <crimsun> disasm: modprobe -r bt878?
[10:26] <sn9> netstar: ati here
[10:26] <mwe> jeff303: look into " man badblocks" maybe
[10:26] <bluefrog-10> mamoru: then do it your way, i don't mind
[10:26] <fmasi> where can i find the unoficial breezy gide or a rep list containing all rep ?
[10:26] <samu> I can't install ubuntu on my laptop. The install gets messed up towards the end.
[10:27] <netstar> nalioth, do you know any tricks to get the most out of my machine without high CPU loads in X?
[10:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fmasi about sources
[10:27] <jeff303> sn9: ok you're right, looks like you use e2fsck in tandem with badblocks
[10:27] <nalioth> netstar: what machine is that?
[10:27] <sn9> !tell fmasi about repos
[10:27] <moogman> Hey, is there a way to edit id3 tags in Rhythmbox, with Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:27] <jeff303> mwe: is there some way to have that execute before moutning anything?
[10:27] <netstar> nalioth, ppc64 with nvidia card.  It's an imac
[10:27] <sn9> jeff303: that's silly
[10:27] <mamoru> bluefrog-10, thank you for your effort, i really appreciate it! I just wanted to know the command-line syntax as well
[10:27] <fmasi> thx
[10:27] <nalioth> netstar: you have a g5 imac running ubuntu?
[10:27] <jeff303> sn9: what do you mean?
[10:27] <netstar> sure do
[10:27] <disasm> crimsun: yeah, i did that, and the snd module associated with it, bttv, and snd-pcm-oss then modprobe snd-pcm-oss then cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp and same error
[10:27] <netstar> with fan control :P
[10:28] <nalioth> netstar: join ##apple please i want to pick your brains
[10:28] <Mineself> sn9: I think I see what might be causing the problem.... I coppied the linuxprint.cfg file from that webpage but it lists the CLP-500 printer driver in it. I am guessing I need to change that to the same driver name as the 510 driver I am using.
[10:28] <crimsun> disasm: which dxs_support module are you using?
[10:28] <sn9> jeff303: badblocks everytime you mount will take forever
[10:28] <crimsun> disasm: s/module/value/
[10:28] <jeff303> sn9:  I know, I just want to do it once
[10:28] <jeff303> sn9: I was just wondering if I could do it without a livecd
[10:28] <mwe> jeff303: well the partition containing the badblocks program must be mounted unless you use a live cd
[10:28] <jeff303> mwe:  good point, heh
[10:29] <sn9> jeff303: you can do it on an installed system
[10:29] <iceman_64> shoot
[10:29] <shyru> hey guys!! please help me!!!
[10:29] <Thomaschaaf> i have a compaq R3000 and how do I get my WiFi to run?
[10:29] <SuperTails92> shyru: What is it?
[10:29] <marcin_ant> hi all
[10:29] <sn9> Thomaschaaf: do you know the chipset?
[10:29] <shyru> on X (gnome) i can not type anything!! but on terminal i can do it!
[10:29] <iceman_64> anyone have ungodly patients, willing to help config a ubuntu install
[10:29] <marcin_ant> my friend has a problem with ubuntu breezy
[10:30] <Thomaschaaf> no I dont
[10:30] <marcin_ant> he has laptop with dvd combo drive
[10:30] <magnusthe> ark_ any luck?
[10:30] <InitMass> how does one open udp port 6881 in firestarter?
[10:30] <marcin_ant> and ubuntu says 'No URI handler implemented for "dvd://"'
[10:30] <bluefrog-10> initmass: add policy
[10:30] <SuperTails92> shyru: Can you type into the login prompt in GDM?
[10:30] <Mineself> sn9: it lists the print driver file as  <printer ppd="ppd/C/CLP-500splc.ppd" queue="colorlaser">
[10:30] <ark_> I rebooted but according to dmesg the card was still taken by orinoco..
[10:30] <marcin_ant> when trying to play some dvd movie
[10:30] <marcin_ant> could someone help me with this?
[10:30] <shyru> SuperTails92, yep
[10:31] <bluefrog-10> thomasschaaf: u sure ur card was not recognised?
[10:31] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, i can't see anything about udp there
[10:31] <shyru> SuperTails92, i can not type anything into the login promt in GDM
[10:31] <magnusthe> ark_ then you need to look into blacklisting orinoco, hotplug is a good place to do it (I think)
[10:31] <iceman_64> Anyone able to help me config a install .. "newb here"
[10:31] <ark_> Also, when I do lsmod, I only see hostap being loaded (no hostap_cs or anything)..
[10:31] <bluefrog-10> initmass: add policy and choose bittorrent
[10:31] <iceman_64> how to mount my ntfs harddrive
[10:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell iceman_64 about ntfs
[10:32] <magnusthe> ark_ then add the other modules to /etc/modules as well
[10:32] <ark_> I'll try blacklisting (thanks for your help!!).
[10:32] <ark_> Ok.
[10:32] <shyru> SuperTails92, this problem appear went i update from 5.04 to 5.10
[10:32] <shyru> :S
[10:32] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, doesn't seems like azureus are coming through anyway
[10:32] <disasm> crimsun: thanks, i got it, removed all sound modules, and ran modprobe snd-via82xx and it works now
[10:32] <magnusthe> ark_ it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out
[10:32] <magnusthe> ark_ good luck
[10:32] <sn9> Thomaschaaf: broadcom. you need ndiswrapper
[10:32] <bluefrog-10> initmass: does it go through without firestarter?
[10:32] <ark_> magnusthe: Do uo know where this hotplug file is located>
[10:32] <disasm> crimsun: how can i blacklist the bttv sound so it wont happen on reboot?
[10:32] <astronut> !mplayer
[10:32] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:33] <shyru> On 5.04 everything that's ok. On 5.10 i have this problem :S
[10:33] <mirak> why doesn't gnome partition manager doesn't write mounted partitions into fstab ????
[10:33] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, "...If you have a router/firewall, please check that you have port 6881 UDP open. Descentralised tracking requires this."
[10:33] <magnusthe> ark_ /etc/hotplug is the place to look
[10:33] <crimsun> disasm: append it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[10:33] <joachim_> jeppie jei jo bro
[10:33] <ark_> Ok, again thanks for your time =)
[10:33] <iceman_64> any why cant ubuntu make this easy ... jeez ...
[10:33] <l1quid> i'm using the livecd to get some data off of an old harddrive with an ext3 partition, but i need a way to ignore file permissions, is there a way to do that?
[10:33] <magnusthe> ark_ my please... good luck
[10:33] <shyru> SuperTails92, any idea?
[10:33] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, not sure
[10:33] <bluefrog-10> initmass: that's why i ask if it does go through without firestarter?
[10:34] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, hehe ok
[10:34] <bluefrog-10> initmass: stop firestarter
[10:34] <sbartleylinux> Is anyone successfully running xdm on breezy?
[10:34] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, done
[10:34] <bluefrog-10> initmass: u connect from home?
[10:34] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, i'll wait for some minutes and see
[10:34] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, yes
[10:34] <shyru> sbartleylinux, the question is for me?
[10:34] <sbartleylinux> shyru, question is for anyone.
[10:35] <bluefrog-10> initmass: how do u connect to the internet?
[10:35] <nightswim> is it possible on 5.10 to tell gnome that I want to drag windows with the top off my screen?
[10:35] <shyru> sbartleylinux, ok, i have a similar error :S
[10:35] <nightswim> so that the titlebar and such arent visible
[10:35] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, just via adsl modem
[10:35] <shyru> sbartleylinux, i can not type on gmd into the logging :S
[10:35] <bluefrog-10> initmass: simple modem or modem router?
[10:35] <sbartleylinux> trying to figure out why xdm will not start a display/login.  just goes back to prompt.  gdm/kdm work fine.  xdm on breezy fails.
[10:36] <calamari> please can someone help me?  firefox does not show any letters.. what I had previously thought were underscores were actually the accelerator lines.
[10:36] <sbartleylinux> Did full breezy install, then installed xdm and chose xdm as default dm but wont go to gui login.
[10:36] <nalioth> damned bots
[10:36] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, simple modem
[10:36] <topyli> whoa! penguintv seems really awesome. anybody know any free software related podcasts and such? :)
[10:36] <calamari> I have tried asking for help in ubuntuforums.org but links is not able to keep me logged in so I cannot post
[10:36] <shyru> oo k!!
[10:36] <calamari> I have tried asking for help in ubuntuforums.org but links is not able to keep me logged in so I cannot post
[10:36] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, now it actually seems to be coming through :)
[10:37] <iceman_64> one reason i have never taken to linux ... god setting command line shit up ...
[10:37] <bluefrog-10> initmass: then just ad the right policy in firestarter
[10:37] <calamari> sorry for the repeat
[10:37] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, but how should i make it go through even when using a firewall? i have the right policy
[10:38] <bluefrog-10> initmass: when u had the policy u have to apply it if u haven't changed anything in firestarter pref
[10:38] <DShepherd> why is a password, by default, set to access the net via dialup
[10:38] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, "allow service (BitTorrent), Port (6881-6889), For (everyone)
[10:39] <bluefrog-10> initmass: clicked on button apply?
[10:39] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, done. second try now
[10:39] <DShepherd> why is a password, by default, set to access the net via dialup. I dont think it should. But you guys are brilliant so you must have a reason for it. What is that reason?
[10:39] <iceman_64> anyone here a configuration god ... because trying to just grasp this "command line" from a start i beyond me ...
[10:39] <bluefrog-10> initmass: anything in the event window?
[10:40] <alican> Hi..
[10:40] <bluefrog-10> ieman: what's ur problem?
[10:40] <alican> is there bash complation in ubuntu
[10:40] <bluefrog-10> iceman: what's ur problem?
[10:40] <calamari> please help.. this is what my firefox looks like: http://kidsquid.com/breezy_firefox_bug.png
[10:40] <bobbyd> iceman64, there is a GUI for setting up new mounts
[10:41] <bobbyd> iceman64, are you using 5.10?
[10:41] <sbartleylinux> It seems that xdm is not accessing the /etc/X11/xdm directory config files at all.  It is starting or at least trying to start but the echo statments I put into the config files are never getting accessed.  Anyone with any ideas on where to start troubleshooting?
[10:41] <iceman_64> want to mount a windows partition "ntfs" copy diablo II from there, and get it configed in wine
[10:41] <nalioth> iceman_64: ubotu sent you a URL on how to mount your ntfs
[10:41] <bluefrog-10> iceman_64: u need to change /etc/fstab
[10:42] <bobbyd> sbartleylinux, have you checked the X log?
[10:42] <iceman_64> nalioth i got the url ...but how this all works .. i am lost ..
[10:42] <sbartleylinux> bobbyd, yes.
[10:42] <bobbyd> sbartleylinux, and the syslog :)
[10:42] <sbartleylinux> nothing that gives indication of problem that i can find.
[10:43] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, yes on event
[10:43] <bobbyd> sbartleylinux, I've got to go, sorry
[10:43] <sbartleylinux> np
[10:43] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, SSDP service
[10:43] <nalioth> iceman_64: open the winmac_fstab and follow it's instructions. you can have it open in a text editor while you work with it in a terminal
[10:44] <bluefrog-10> initmass:but no 6881 so it's working now no?
[10:44] <misfit_toy> holy muthah!! finally after hours of doinking with xorg.conf I have my 20" TV running thru tv-out in glorious 1024x768 fullscreen WITH it's own desktop too, and my laptop in 1400x1050 with IT's own desktop, this is killer stuff.
[10:44] <shale> anyone use ubuntu with a dell and a docking station?
[10:44] <crimsun> sbartleylinux: do you mean xdm starts and awaits user input, or do you mean it starts but seems to exit?
[10:44] <DShepherd> why is a password, by default, set to access the net via dialup. I dont think it should. But you guys are brilliant so you must have a reason for it. What is that reason?
[10:45] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, starts but runs in background.  never gives login and just drops back to text environment.  ps -ef shows process still running but nothing else.
[10:45] <vader1102> Hello, I am running a Dell Latitude CPi with nm2200 magic grapgh graphics, the sound is good but I would like to get better than 800x600 any ideas?
[10:45] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, the tracker can be slow occasionally
[10:45] <vader1102> and I am using Breezy
[10:45] <astronut> i'm helping a friend and the upgrade from hoary -> breezy wants to remove amarok and some mesa stuff...why?
[10:45] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, in other words, i'm still waiting
[10:45] <shale> vader1102, did you install the fglrx stuff?
[10:46] <SuperTails92> DShepherd: you wouldn't want someone accessing your computer when you get a coffee break and making long distance calls
[10:46] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, if I set default to gdm, works fine.  only when set to xdm does it do this.
[10:46] <vader1102> shale, I have no clue, this is off a fresh install, best guess no
[10:46] <ptlo> DShepherd, the technical answer: to initiate connection one must have superuser privileges, and to get these privileges you have to specify the password. my guess at the non-technical answer: so there's no c hance you do it by accident, unknowingly, and get a huge net bill :)
[10:46] <shale> vader1102, go to the ubuntu forums and search for fglrx
[10:46] <vader1102> ty
[10:47] <bluefrog-10> initmass: it's always slow for me whatever i do. if u're still waiting while it'running when u stop firestarter it means u have to fiddle around with the policie again. sry my firestarter is on another box.
[10:47] <crimsun> sbartleylinux: sounds like a missing lib. What do the log files tell you?
[10:47] <DShepherd> SuperTails92: ptlo, SuperTails92. Thanks guys...makes sense to me.
[10:48] <bluefrog-10> iceman_64: have u seen want i sent u in priate window?
[10:48] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, any pointer on which log file I should focus on?
[10:48] <sbartleylinux> I have not found any indicator errors in ~/.xsession-errors, or /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:49] <crimsun> sbartleylinux: auth.log?
[10:49] <crimsun> sbartleylinux: daemon.log?
[10:49] <mamoru> just one more question, please
[10:49] <marsh> hi all.
[10:50] <marsh> and I also have a question...
[10:50] <gusto5> hello everyone.
[10:50] <gusto5> anyone familar with pppd configurations?
[10:50] <marsh> My system rexently would not start up :(, came up with a grub error 15.
[10:50] <mamoru> how to compile a script which uses opengl? the linker says undefined reference to ''gClearColor'
[10:50] <gusto5> i have a ppp0 and a ppp1 and they contradict each other. i cant remove one from network settings
[10:50] <SuperTails92> gusto5: try using wvdial
[10:51] <lymz> ping?
[10:51] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: stupid question: is xdm vital for u r it's for the fun of researching how things work?
[10:51] <marsh> I have now installed another, and am trying to mount the disk, but reports that wrong fstype missing codepage or other...
[10:51] <gusto5> SuperTails92, out of curiosity is there another way to setup a dsl connection other than pppoeconf?
[10:52] <marsh> dmesg | tail reports that EXT3-fs: error loading journal :
[10:52] <marsh> anyone know whats going on here?
[10:52] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, it is vital.
[10:52] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: for ltsp?
[10:52] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, we are trying to avoid the overhead of gdm/kdm on a ltsp system which will be on livecd/dvd.  small footprint as possible.
[10:52] <iceman_64> cant seem to edit fstab in a text edit .. help
[10:53] <nicram> marsh: you should be able to mount as plain ext2
[10:53] <nicram> marsh: mount -t ext2 /dev/[whatever] 
[10:53] <marsh> nicram - thanks, I;'ll give it a go
[10:54] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: cause i just setup ltsp with no xdm running. but now indeed i don't know if things are better with xdm
[10:54] <nicram> marsh: ext3 is ext2 with journalling so is backward compatible.
[10:54] <vader1102> shale, no go
[10:54] <marsh> nicram - no joy :(
[10:54] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, which dm did you use?
[10:54] <nicram> marsh: dmesg ?
[10:54] <iceman_64> how to edit fstab ... text editor wont let me
[10:54] <sobersabre> guys anybody know if intel celeron mobile CPUs will be supported by speedstep in linux ?
[10:55] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: gdm with XDMCP enable=true in gdm.conf
[10:55] <Juhaz> anyone using ipw2200 and breezy?
[10:55] <nicram> marsh: could you be experiencing hardware disk failure ?
[10:55] <sobersabre> Juhaz I do
[10:55] <mwe> Juhaz: yeah me too
[10:55] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, neither of those logs show anything that would indicate a problem to me.
[10:55] <kashms> iceman: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:55] <vader1102> shale, when I search fglrx it gives me an Italian redirect
[10:55] <sobersabre> Juhaz: actually, right now ...
[10:55] <marsh> have exactly the same error. dmesg says [xxx.xxx]  EXT3-fs: error loading journal
[10:55] <Juhaz> sobersabre, mwe noticed any instability or other weirdness? the stupid thing keeps throwing kernel panics at me
[10:55] <Validdot> Can some say how to use vice, the c64 emulator?
[10:55] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, yes.  We have been able to get it working with gdm as well.  just dont want the overhead of the gnome libraries etc.... that comes with that.
[10:55] <sobersabre> mine works...
[10:55] <crimsun> sbartleylinux: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xdm ?
[10:55] <thenuke> Validdot: read the docs?
[10:55] <marsh> nicram, theres a vfat partition on there too - i can get to that...
[10:56] <nicram> marsh : are you explicitly telling it to mount ext2, ie mount -t ext2 /dev/hda3 /mnt/testing
[10:56] <sobersabre> maybe it throws panics to my kernel, but my kernel ignores them ;)
[10:56] <shale> vader1102, did you search the ubuntuforums.org site?
[10:56] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, yes.
[10:56] <marsh> nicram, yes...
[10:56] <mwe> Juhaz: well sometimes the connection silently dies. I then have to bring the interface down and back up
[10:56] <vader1102> shale, I am on there now and yes
[10:56] <Jedrick> need help i got this error when installing ncurses.. "  checking for gcc... /opt/gcc-3.3/bin/gcc.. checking whether the C compiler (/opt/gcc-3.3/bin/gcc  ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables." why is that?
[10:56] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: ok am not good enough with all that (not say stupid to the strongest point) can't help sry
[10:56] <marsh> to the letter (except i'm /mnt/temp
[10:56] <Hobart> I can't get the Konsole Linux font working -- Tried Ubuntu Breezy on i386 and  Kubuntu Breezy on 3 machines (2 i386, 1 PPC) - I have enabled bitmap fonts in fontconfig, and updated the fontconfig cache.  Anyone know any other steps I can take?
[10:57] <nicram> marsh: have you tried a file system check - e2fsck /dev/hda4[or whatever] 
[10:57] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, np. thx anyway.
[10:57] <sobersabre> Juhaz: My connection is stable... have you installed ipw2200 from source or used the one with breezy ?
[10:57] <shale> vader1102, do you have an ati card?
[10:57] <st1lgar> is there a way to globally enable tear-off menus ?
[10:57] <gusto5> hello again folks
[10:57] <Juhaz> sobersabre, the bundled one
[10:57] <vader1102> it is Neo Magic
[10:58] <marsh> the harddrive should be pretty reliable... no - i havent (see that's what i like about coming in here - i can move forward ;)
[10:58] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: u might help me though. what kernel do u have in /var/lib/tftpboot?
[10:58] <Jedrick> need help i got this error when installing ncurses.. "  checking for gcc... /opt/gcc-3.3/bin/gcc.. checking whether the C compiler (/opt/gcc-3.3/bin/gcc  ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables." why is that?
[10:58] <marsh> am running the check now... (thanks nicram
[10:59] <Juhaz> mwe, I could live with that but it insists on crashing the entire machine. sigh
[10:59] <iceman_64> bluefrog-10 how important is the spacing in that line
[10:59] <marsh> nicram, superblock corrupt - yes to fix - check forced - i'm on me way... (cross yr fingers!!)
[10:59] <nicram> marsh: may have to run it with -p flag : -p     Automatically repair ("preen") the file system without any ques-tions. (see man e2fsck)
[11:00] <sobersabre> Juhaz: have you found anything suspicious in the syslog ?
[11:00] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, I actually repointed tftpboot to /tftpboot instead of /var/lib but to answer your question, it is the 2.4.26-ltsp-3/pxelinux.0
[11:00] <nicram> marsh: Normally ext3 is very reliable, you must have done a bad bad thing ;-)
[11:00] <marsh> nicram, what are illegal blocks? they bad ones?
[11:00] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: k ty
[11:01] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, when last I spoke with jim from ltsp, the 2.6 kernel did not yet work correctly and he suggested using the 2.4.
[11:01] <marsh> nicram, did nothing! only played mp3's, shut down & restarted.
[11:01] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: is ltsp or ubuntu doing the detection?
[11:01] <mwe> Juhaz: doesn't the syslog indicate what could be the problem?
[11:01] <Jedrick> need help i got this error when installing ncurses.. "  checking for gcc... /opt/gcc-3.3/bin/gcc.. checking whether the C compiler (/opt/gcc-3.3/bin/gcc  ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables." why is that?
[11:01] <Juhaz> doesn't seem to be able to save anything to logs before dying
[11:01] <sobersabre> marsh: maybe you have power outages and spikes, and no UPS, so this can kill a harddisk like nothing....
[11:01] <vader1102> shale, I am gone for a smoke, bbiab
[11:01] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, what do you mean by detection?
[11:01] <nightswim> did you install build-essential
[11:01] <sbartleylinux> kernel selection?
[11:02] <Jedrick> help anyone
[11:02] <sobersabre> Juhaz: disable the module and look into the logs :)
[11:02] <sobersabre> Juhaz: boot with the live CD, and don't enable wireless.
[11:02] <absenth> does anyone here know how to change the color of the background behind the splash screen image?
[11:02] <marsh> nicram, have surge protection (& the light is on saying it's working) - are illegal blocks damaged/bad blocks?
[11:02] <mwe> Juhaz: when does it happen? when the module loads?
[11:02] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: xorg detection i guess. X_CONFIGURE = Ubuntu
[11:03] <SlicerDicer-> GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key .... umm no?
[11:03] <nicram> marsh: no illegal blocks are file system related issues, not bad blocks.
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: in lts.conf
[11:03] <nalioth> SlicerDicer-: it's a common error we've been seeing since breezy released. you can disregard it
[11:03] <Juhaz> mwe, when the network becomes associated, if I don't have the other end responding, it won't die.
[11:03] <vader1102> back
[11:03] <nicram> marsh: caused by fs corruption, http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=e2fsck%20illegal%20blocks&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
[11:03] <SlicerDicer-> nalioth, ok
[11:04] <nicram> marsh: looks like you have to clear them.
[11:04] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, my lts.conf just leaves it as XSERVER = auto
[11:04] <nicram> marsh: although you can try mount the filesystem now that the superblock has been fixed.
[11:04] <marsh> well, nicram,  i seem to have quite a few of them :( - cleared 5 inodes & now i'm getting loads of 'multiply-claimed blocks hammering up my term!!
[11:05] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, any other ideas?
[11:05] <wolki> hi!
[11:05] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, or any idea of who might have the knowledge needed?
[11:05] <Juhaz> okay, let's see... doesn't really write anything to logs, but I suppose I can switch to text console and crash it there
[11:06] <crimsun> sbartleylinux: not off the top of my head. You could ask daniels, but he might be busy.
[11:06] <marsh> nicram, yeah, could this be me being hacked/trojan'd?
[11:06] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, k. thx.
[11:06] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: i changed it to X_CONFIGURE = Ubuntu but still throw me to low vesa while edubuntu recognises the good card. but i think that comes from the kernel in fact and this is too big a thing for to recompile
[11:06] <nicram> marsh: it is possible, but why would you think that - do you have doggy processes running ?
[11:06] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, beyond my knowledge.  you might ask on #ltsp.  I am sure they could answer.
[11:07] <nicram> marsh: more like really bad timing in the reboot - if this is on an external (USB) device then there may be a bug with the Kernl USB code..
[11:07] <marsh> not that i know of... standard install - only really use it for music
[11:07] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, daniels or danielg?
[11:07] <Doclotus> I'm trying to install 5.10 on a VMware session and no xwindows components seem to be installing. Can anyone suggest where I start to troubleshoot this?
[11:07] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, dont see a daniels on here.
[11:07] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: gonna try edubuntu
[11:07] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, cool. thx again.
[11:08] <disasm> crimsun: well i got down to the heart of the issue, it was em8300 which was stepping on /dev/dsp. No big deal because I don't even use my dxr3 card since I got a tvout, so I blacklisted it, and I'll pull the card out when I have time.
[11:08] <crimsun> sbartleylinux: so he's asleep/busy atm
[11:08] <marsh> nah - it's internal... think i was doing something with the disk at reboot time - and have been getting into the habit of hitting the power button to force shutdown too...
[11:08] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, k. thx.
[11:08] <Juhaz> nothing a layman would understand. ernel BUG at <bad filename>:2793!, invalid operand: 0000 [#1] , list of loaded modules, normal kernel panic info (registers, stack, call trace...), kernel panic, not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt
[11:08] <marsh> bad marsh :(
[11:08] <Erick> kernel panic sure sucks
[11:08] <marsh> you reckon that's probably it...?
[11:09] <wolki> i have a problem with installing ubuntu on another computer... it crashes when installing grub. does someone have an idea?
[11:09] <nicram> marsh: I guess you're just gonna have to continue with the cleanup...
[11:09] <Erick> wolki did you get an error?
[11:09] <Erick> *do
[11:09] <nicram> marsh: good luck ... and be nice to your filesystem.....
[11:10] <Erick> lol
[11:10] <marsh> nicram, ya know it ;) - thanks fr help (and patience listening to my rambling)
[11:10] <iceman64> ok ... i know kdesktop downloaded ..
[11:10] <Erick> cool
[11:10] <iceman64> now how to make in available in sessions
[11:10] <marsh> I'll get cleanin'
[11:11] <Erick> iceman64 if you have gdm, it will added it automaticly
[11:11] <Robi> crimsun, ok quick Q, updated to breezy, got a nice mail about mdadm and to zero out the superblock.. but I don't recall using md devices. there a way to check? lsof doesn't seem to work..
[11:11] <Ninjew> Is there a reason why none of my vts are running getty, or is something very wrong?
[11:11] <lamp_> is it wise to install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com
[11:11] <iceman64> not in the sessions list .. just loged out .. and back in ... not listed
[11:11] <wolki> Erick no, it just crashes
[11:11] <Erick> then iceman64 just added it to .xsessions
[11:12] <crimsun> Robi: RAIDed?
[11:12] <topyli> Ninjew: your ttys are blank? mine too :)
[11:12] <Ninjew> topyli: Yeah
[11:12] <Robi> crimsun , may be, but not using md, afaik
[11:12] <sunshine> quick question does breezy take rpm deb or tar files
[11:12] <topyli> Ninjew: my gettys are running though, i just get no visual
[11:12] <Erick> sunshine both
[11:12] <Doclotus> I've tried installing 5.04 and 5.10 on a Thinkpad T41 and in both cases I can't get gnome or any xwindows component to load. ANy suggestions?
[11:12] <bluefrog-10> iceman64:restart gdm
[11:12] <Erick> you can convert rpm to a deb with alien
[11:12] <iceman64> complete reboot ..
[11:13] <crimsun> Robi: you can ignore it if it's not relevant
[11:13] <bluefrog-10> iceman64: ctrl alt return
[11:13] <wolki> and reboots... it|s quite likelz the computer is broken... windows will only start in failsafe. i can run livecds (it seems... have an old warty running right now)
[11:13] <Ninjew> topyli: For me, none of my gettys are running either
[11:13] <bluefrog-10> iceman64: not reboot
[11:13] <iceman64> brb
[11:13] <iceman64> loged out .. loged back in ... not listed in sessions
[11:13] <Erick> just reboot the X iceman64 sudo /etc/intid./gdm restart;
[11:13] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with setting up printing through GNOME using a printre connected directly to a windows box & shared via SMB?
[11:13] <mamoru> help please. What should I link to make the rand() work?
[11:14] <Erick> mamoru c?
[11:14] <Robi> crimsun, and i don't know how to check if md0,1,2 are being used, since i got some other msgs about it.. like "A DegradedArray event had been detected on md device /dev/md1.
[11:14] <nicram> topyli: maybe someone took the terminal stuff out of you inittab file
[11:14] <sunshine> erick but how im tryin to download a file but when i extraxt say a deb file i go to terminal and sudo dpkg -i and it come up unknow file or cant find file
[11:14] <iceman64> loged out .. loged in .. not listed in sessions list
[11:14] <sunshine> erick it the same when i download a tar file
[11:14] <RMeist> hi
[11:14] <topyli> nicram: hmm. i'll take a look at it
[11:14] <Erick> sunshine then do this sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:15] <nicram> topyli: should have shome lines that look like : 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[11:15] <cowbud> is there an ubuntu ppc support channel?
[11:15] <Erick> !ppc
[11:15] <ubotu> hmm... ppc is PowerPC. Macs, IBMs. Nicer then Intel.
[11:15] <RMeist> *, which package do I need for this*:* error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2:
[11:16] <sobersabre> Juhaz: have you installed ipw2200 module by yourself or is it the vanilla one shipped with breezy ?!
[11:16] <iceman64> how the heck to get kda listed in sessions options
[11:16] <topyli> nicram: yep, they're there
[11:16] <Erick> Rudemeister do sudo apt-cache search libstdc
[11:16] <nicram> topyli: once you edit that /etc/inittab file you can just do a kill -HUP 1 or kill -1 1 (which tells init to reload itself)
[11:16] <sobersabre> cowbud: what's the question ?
[11:16] <mamoru> Erick, yes, c
[11:16] <Juhaz> sobersabre, it's vanilla, straight out of the box
[11:16] <Erick> iceman64 do this sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart;
[11:16] <Erick> mamoru link it to main()
[11:16] <cowbud> sobersabre: I have a Wallstreet 2 and it won't boot to the livecd
[11:16] <Doclotus> Is there a way to tell what packages apt has installed, or failed on install?
[11:16] <nicram> topyli: so pressing ctrl-alt F1-F5 gets you nothing ?
[11:16] <mamoru> Erick, ? how
[11:16] <sobersabre> Juhaz: maybe you should use the one from the ipw2200.sf.net site...
[11:16] <Erick> Doclotus sudo apt-get -f install
[11:17] <PegUbuntu> re
[11:17] <Erick> mamoru ask on #c dude
[11:17] <sobersabre> BAD FILENAME looks like it doesn't have firmware
[11:17] <PegUbuntu> re les gars
[11:17] <mamoru> Erick, thx
[11:17] <crimsun> Robi: you probably need to use mdadm with Query/Detail/Examine
[11:17] <Erick> np
[11:17] <PegUbuntu> l'adresse IRC tait enregistr dans Xchat
[11:17] <iceman64> iceman@ubuntu:~$ sudo /ect/init.d/gdm restart:
[11:17] <iceman64> sudo: /ect/init.d/gdm: command not found
[11:17] <iceman64> iceman@ubuntu:~$
[11:17] <topyli> nicram: no, my monitor goes to sleep
[11:17] <Rudemeister> Erick: I'll try again, tnx
[11:17] <sobersabre> Juhaz: do you have the firmware ?!
[11:17] <crimsun> Robi: I'm not a RAID user, but a guy in our LUG might be able to help you
[11:17] <Erick> iceman64 do you have gdm installed?
[11:17] <Erick> Rudemeister np
[11:17] <Ninjew> running getty manually fixes it for me, but for some reason init never started it
[11:17] <Juhaz> sobersabre, can't hurt to try, I suppose... it could hardly be any worse
[11:17] <topyli> nicram: so there's no video there i guess
[11:17] <crimsun> Robi: (Mithrndir, tell him I referred you)
[11:17] <Ninjew> oh i see, init hung on "setting up console font"
[11:17] <iceman64> dont know ... how to find out
[11:18] <bluefrog-10> iceman64: mind the typo...
[11:18] <Erick> iceman64 do this sudo apt-get install gdm
[11:18] <crimsun> Robi: (but let me ping him first)
[11:18] <sunshine> erick it say build essential is already the newest version what does that do
[11:18] <Erick> i don't think is installed
[11:18] <topyli> nicram: i see the boot messages (i don't use usplash) but once gdm starts, they're gone
[11:18] <nicram> topyli: wierd, could be that you're running a console mode that is too high for your monitor - especially if you're using framebuffer driver.
[11:18] <Erick> sunshine you already have the software installed,
[11:18] <iceman64> iceman@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gdm
[11:18] <iceman64> Reading package lists... Done
[11:18] <iceman64> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:18] <iceman64> gdm is already the newest version.
[11:18] <iceman64> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:18] <iceman64> iceman@ubuntu:~$
[11:18] <Erick> bla
[11:18] <jrattner1> Whats the deal with bluetooth and gnome, or is bluetooth only in KDE
[11:18] <Erick> iceman64 do not pasted you're gonna get kicked out
[11:18] <Seveas> iceman64, NEVER do that again
[11:19] <sunshine> erick im trying to install another file skype
[11:19] <Erick> only in kde jrattner1
[11:19] <jrattner1> Erick, seriously?
[11:19] <Erick> yeah
[11:19] <iceman64> sorry ...
[11:19] <nicram> topyli: could also be some wierd X server stuff, no handling you graphics card properly.
[11:19] <Robi> crimsun, ya he may know me ;] 
[11:19] <topyli> nicram: already took the vga option off from menu.lst and am getting the nice, big, ugly standard kernels
[11:19] <Erick> iceman64 do this sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart;
[11:19] <nicram> topyli: have you tried to go into single user mode to test.. ?
[11:19] <Erick> it should worked
[11:19] <iceman64> so i take it gdm is already installed
[11:19] <topyli> kernel messages
[11:19] <markybob> when trying to apt-get update, i'm getting a gpg error saying the signature is invalid for http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy.  thoughts?
[11:19] <paco_reyes> hi, excuse me, are there backporta repositories for breezy?
[11:19] <crimsun> Robi: you know David?
[11:19] <Erick> !tell paco_reyes about backports
[11:20] <erisco> does breezy have support for shockwave player? and better support for flash? if it does i am upgrading asap
[11:20] <nalioth> markybob: common error since breezy, disregard. it will sort itself
[11:20] <cowbud> sobersabre: I have a Wallstreet 2 and it won't boot to the livecd
[11:20] <topyli> nicram: no, but i think it's X that manages to mess it up anyway
[11:20] <Seveas> paco_reyes, no.
[11:20] <Erick> Erick swfplayer i believed
[11:20] <nalioth> cowbud: is that old world?
[11:20] <nicram> topyli: by typing init [single user mode - check which it is by looking a inittab file] 
[11:20] <Robi> crimsun, he may remember me, dont know if we've met, but the nick sounds v.famliar
[11:20] <markybob> nalioth, that doesnt help me since i cant install the packages i need because of this error.
[11:20] <Erick> erisco swfplayer i believed
[11:20] <cowbud> nalioth: I thought only a wallstreet 1 was oldworld.
[11:20] <cowbud> nalioth: if it is what can I do nothing?
[11:20] <paco_reyes> ok
[11:20] <Erick> frontier try asking
[11:20] <nalioth> markybob: the error has nothing to do with installing, you can install whatever you like
[11:20] <crimsun> Robi: (not Mithrandir from Debian & Ubuntu)
[11:20] <cowbud> ahh I found the wiki
[11:21] <frontier> Erick I have been for two days, no one has yet replied
[11:21] <topyli> nicram: no can do, i have a wife working on the windows client. gotta have the network. :) i'll try that later though
[11:21] <nalioth> cowbud: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
[11:21] <Erick> ask one more time
[11:21] <Robi> crimsun , you're probably right..
[11:21] <nicram> topyli: which ubunut release are you using ?
[11:21] <iceman64> did that .. killed any session options crap
[11:21] <Robi> crimsun , so should i ping him yet or will he?
[11:21] <topyli> nicram: breezy
[11:21] <j0nas`> question re: apt... say i want to install two ftp servers, when i select the second one, i'm told i have to remove the first one...
[11:21] <markybob> nalioth, you're right and wrong at the same time.  it lets me install things as they were in my last apt-get update.  however, since then, some files have moved (the ones i need to installed).  so i need to apt-get update before i can install them, or else apt doesnt know where to get them.
[11:21] <Erick> iceman64 are you running gdm? kdm
[11:21] <j0nas`> can you override this?
[11:21] <crimsun> Robi: I pinged him, but he's probably leaving work. (He works for RH.)
[11:22] <iceman64> currently in gnome
[11:22] <Erick> then you're using gdm?
[11:22] <erisco> ping, what a funny word now that i think of it
[11:22] <Robi> crimsun , gothca, ya it's that time over there
[11:22] <nalioth> cowbud: sorry wrong buffer https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[11:22] <topyli> nicram: weird thing is, i have the same hardware that's worked fine for 5 years. i built this box especially as a linux box
[11:22] <iceman64> did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop .. that finished ..
[11:22] <cocox> hi
[11:22] <Erick> hi cocox
[11:22] <Ninjew> I solved my getty problem
[11:22] <Robi> crimsun , well i think i figured out that I am indeed using md0,1,2
[11:22] <cowbud> nalioth: qemu? what do I want to do with that?
[11:22] <nalioth> markybob: the gpg error thing is just to tell you about it, it still updates
[11:22] <cowbud> ahh
[11:22] <cocox> hi erick
[11:22] <cowbud> nalioth: ahh
[11:22] <erisco> how the heck do they get the word ping for sending packets of information to some destination to see if you can communicate and at what speed
[11:22] <Doclotus> I *think* I finally got gnome to install, what is the syntax to start it?
[11:22] <cowbud> nalioth: yah thanks!
[11:22] <Erick> Doclotus gdm
[11:22] <iceman64> now after that last command .. i have no session options ... just a command shell
[11:23] <Robi> crimsun, so i'll try zeroing out teh superblock like it says..  it's a MUST acording to debconf
[11:23] <nalioth> cowbud: just glad it wasnt the pR0n buffer, eh?
[11:23] <cocox> can anybody plz help me y want to install the apt app
[11:23] <Doclotus> It said only root wants to run gdm
[11:23] <crimsun> Robi: k
[11:23] <iceman64> kind of got me toasted ...
[11:23] <Erick> cocox you don't have apt? on ubuntu?
[11:23] <nalioth> cocox: the apt app is most likely on your box already
[11:23] <Erick> Doclotus yeah run it as root
[11:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cocox about apt-get
[11:23] <cocox> really ?
[11:23] <topyli> nicram: i tried usplash a while back but removed it. i blame usplash :)
[11:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cocox about synaptic
[11:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cocox about repos
[11:23] <cocox> uh ??
[11:23] <nalioth> cocox: you have priv msgs
[11:23] <Ninjew> erisco: sonar ping
[11:23] <frontier> any idea's why under ubuntu breezy I can't get an upstream higher than 31Kbps when under windows I get 231Kbps?
[11:23] <topyli> nicram: can't say when i first looked at a console after that, so cannot be sure
[11:24] <marsh> nicram - sorry to trouble you again, but my fs now has only a lost+found dir - and nothing in it :(... that mean i lost everything?
[11:24] <Jedrick> where can i download ncurses for ubuntu?
[11:24] <nicram> topyli: that may be a reason, it was trying to put the console into some obscene setting.
[11:24] <Doclotus> How do I run gdm as root? Sudo?
[11:24] <Erick> sudo gdm
[11:24] <MachineScrew> who here is an ubuntu developer ?
[11:24] <topyli> nicram: yeah
[11:24] <cocox> ohhh i c thnx
[11:24] <Erick> MachineScrew go to #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel
[11:24] <cocox> i'll read this articles
[11:25] <iceman64> toasted my boot manager ... help ... no sessions options ... just a pure text enviorment ...
[11:25] <Jedrick> where can i download ncurses for ubuntu?
[11:25] <MachineScrew> I just had a sugestion
[11:25] <Jedrick> anyone?
[11:25] <Erick> Jedrick do apt-cache search ncurses
[11:25] <nicram> topyli: you should be able to specify the vga mode at book, ie append a kernel option vga=ask (or vga=7 - for some standard vga mode)
[11:25] <nalioth> Jedrick: use synaptic (they should already be there, tho)
[11:25] <Erick> or apt-get install libncurses-dev
[11:25] <topyli> nicram: anyway, i was thinking i won't bother too much. i'm thinking about repartitioning and reinstalling once i get more hard disk space. this installation is a mess anyway
[11:25] <Erick> that's the ncurses packaged
[11:25] <topyli> nicram: that's a possibility
[11:26] <marsh> topyli, Ah know that feelin'!
[11:26] <topyli> nicram: i might find something that works
[11:26] <MachineScrew> but in regards to that sugestion how do I make a USB HD ext3 filesystem writeable in Nautilus
[11:26] <topyli> marsh: upgrades, software experiments, fiddling... :)
[11:26] <nicram> marsh: if the rest of the fs is empty then you're very much out of luck and the whole bang shoot got corrupted, chances of that happening seem remote to me... but quantumn mechanics allows for all things.... :-(
[11:26] <iceman64> OK ... the command that restarted my gnome ... in the process toasted my sessions options ... help
[11:26] <cheemp> when i install mysql with apt-get, what's the original user account and password for mysql?
[11:26] <topyli> marsh: my home directory dates from at least mandrake 8.2 times or something :)
[11:27] <Erick> cheemp it's root and there's no password for it
[11:27] <bluefrog-10> no password for mysql
[11:27] <j0nas`> so... ipw2200 support is still fucked in breezy?
[11:27] <marsh> and here's to the interconnectedness of all things :(....
[11:27] <MachineScrew> how do I make a USB HD ext3 filesystem writeable in Nautilus
[11:27] <nalioth> j0nas`: language please
[11:27] <jrattner1> do *.ico work in gnome
[11:27] <j0nas`> ahem pardon me
[11:27] <gusto5> does anyone know why firefox crashes once in a while? (5.10 breezy fox)
[11:27] <iceman64> what i need to reinstall the cd .. just to get a dang sessions manager back ..
[11:27] <Erick> yeah ico is icon
[11:27] <nicram> marsh: was this an ide drive or usb ?
[11:28] <cheemp> if i could improve 1 thing on ubuntu/linux, it would be the web browser
[11:28] <marsh> topyli, i jujst lost mine - and everything else.... :( as we spoke - looks like i'm down to this fresh install & no email addresses (among other things)
[11:28] <j0nas`> cheemp: port IE?
[11:28] <bluefrog-10> chemp mysqladmin -u root password "newpassword"
[11:28] <j0nas`> LOL
[11:28] <Juhaz> sobersabre, and no separate firmware either, so it too is whatever is bundled with breezy, I've done nothing related to this than typed ssid and wep key during installation
[11:28] <nicram> marsh: check you cabling very carefully, if you have any kinks or nics in the insulation then replace them.
[11:28] <iceman64> ok how do i restore my sessions options screen if i log out ...
[11:28] <marsh> nicram, IDE... was dual boot with winXP.
[11:28] <MachineScrew> how do I make a USB HD ext3 filesystem writeable in Nautilus
[11:28] <cheemp> bluefrog thanks :)
[11:28] <topyli> marsh: i've learned backing up the hard way too
[11:28] <Erick> MachineScrew stop repeating
[11:29] <MachineScrew> Erick: I am not repeating to those that just enterd
[11:29] <marsh> but like i said - could be me getting into shutting down using the power button - and now it comes to me... i think it was during an apt-get - quite a large one
[11:29] <nalioth> MachineScrew: a good rule of thumb is about every 5 minutes
[11:29] <Erick> well repeating, it's gonna get you kicked you and ignored MachineScrew
[11:29] <nicram> marsh: I hope you didn't loose valuable data - you can still try recovery if it is critical using 3rd party ext2 recovery toolsfs
[11:29] <marsh> was a mistake - i have two machines & hit the wrong one...
[11:30] <MachineScrew> nalioth: thanks
[11:30] <yaaar> hey guys. just got done with an ubuntu install on a friend's machine....seemed like things worked fine, came right up....but after doing all the updates, now it takes longer than a minute to get to a grub menu, and afterward it sits at the kernel loading for a minute or so, and complains that it doesn't fine an ext3 filesystem on /, even though we used reiser in the install....
[11:30] <iceman64> Help ... that gdm/restart  command ... what ever it did .. now if i log out ... i have no sessions options ....
[11:30] <j0nas`> MachineScrew: sudo chmod 777 <path to usb filesystem>
[11:30] <yaaar> anybody know what that's all about?
[11:30] <yaaar> (it still boots properly....just takes a lot longer)
[11:30] <MachineScrew> j0nas`: did that
[11:30] <marsh> toolsfs?
[11:30] <MachineScrew> j0nas`: didn't work
[11:30] <j0nas`> do you have it mounted?
[11:30] <Erick> iceman64 do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start;
[11:30] <cheemp> bluefrog: i get "mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed" "error: access denied for user root@localhost" .. :(
[11:30] <MachineScrew> yes
[11:30] <j0nas`> then it ought to work
[11:31] <MachineScrew> it's on the desktop
[11:31] <Doclotus> Gdm failed to load, said Xserver not found, is that a separate install?
[11:31] <nicram> marsh: sorry, touchpad error, ext2fs recovery tools...
[11:31] <Erick> Doclotus sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[11:31] <frontier> see Erick, t'is a puzzling one
[11:31] <Erick> ?/
[11:31] <nicram> marsh: modern IDE drives can have large read/write caches, which are great for performance but if you poweroff before this cache is purged you can be in trouble.
[11:32] <MachineScrew> j0nas`: you still with me ?
[11:32] <frontier> any idea's why under ubuntu breezy I can't get an upstream higher than 31Kbps when under windows I get 231Kbps
[11:32] <nicram> marsh: painfull and pricey at times : http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ext2%20recovery&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
[11:32] <marsh> Aahhh... and here's where I fell over...
[11:32] <iceman_64> still no kde option in the sessions manager screen
[11:32] <absenth> what was the gui tweek tool I'm supposed to install called again?
[11:33] <Erick> synaptic absenth ?
[11:33] <MachineScrew> frontier: its magic
[11:33] <marsh> checking it out now, nicram ... thanks again - will keep you posted.
[11:33] <zrothe> What is recommended to extract files from an ISO?
[11:33] <ecobuntu> !java
[11:33] <ubotu> it has been said that java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[11:33] <ecobuntu> !javadeb
[11:33] <ubotu> I guess javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[11:34] <MachineScrew> frontier: try disable ing IPv6 support damn though i don't know what modules to add
[11:34] <MachineScrew> frontier: I have slept yet
[11:34] <MachineScrew> up all night
[11:34] <iceman_64> ok tryed to do update .. got errors .. who can i past to
[11:34] <frontier> MachineScrew it's off putting, when I can download at my max capacity then can only send stuff almost as quick as I could recieve data when I was on dialup
[11:34] <zrothe> What is recommended to extract files from an ISO? Anyone?
[11:35] <absenth> Erick, actually, I was looking for the one that modifies the GUI.  rather then a GUI tool for installing package :)
[11:35] <frontier> cheers machine ;)
[11:35] <andril> hello all
[11:35] <iceman_64> who can tell me what error in apt-get update mean
[11:35] <yaaar> does anybody know why when i edit the apt sources file the way ubuntuguide says and then apt-get update, whenever i do apt-get upgrade it tells me a bunch of "file not found" stuff and says i need to run apt-get update to fix the problems? runnint update doesn't fix it
[11:35] <Jedrick> need help when trying to install ncurses. " ../c++/cursesw.h:17:23: error: strstream.h: No such file or directory" help anyone
[11:35] <nicram> ubotu: I doubt SUn would allow repackaging of Java, I think that JavaDeb is Gnu Java - an OSS impl of Java
[11:35] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, nicram
[11:35] <Bergcube> zrothe~  Simply mount the iso and browse it!
[11:35] <MachineScrew> frontier: what they say is Linux is better for networking it was designed that way lol
[11:36] <liquidten2> zrothe:  you can mount the iso via loopback and then copy files.  do a, sudo mkdir /mnt/iso | mount /filenamefor.iso -t iso9660 /mnt/iso -o loop
[11:36] <iceman_64> i HATE GNOME .. AND AM STUCK WITH IT
[11:36] <MachineScrew> !tell IPv6
[11:36] <calamari> is it possible to change the size of the fonts associated with the folder icons?
[11:36] <zrothe> ah, terrific thanks
[11:36] <frontier> lol, I won't arguw with it if I can get my upload speeds up, it's damned annoying having to go make a cup of tea while uploading a photo to my blog lol
[11:37] <Jedrick> need help when trying to install ncurses. " ../c++/cursesw.h:17:23: error: strstream.h: No such file or directory" help anyone
[11:37] <MachineScrew> frontier: ya I got ya there
[11:37] <Hobart> I can't get the Konsole Linux font working -- Tried Ubuntu Breezy on i386 and  Kubuntu Breezy on 3 machines (2 i386, 1 PPC) - I have enabled bitmap fonts in fontconfig, and updated the fontconfig cache.  Anyone know any other steps I can take to troubleshoot the font?
[11:37] <hyphenated> Jedrick: you're getting a compilation error trying to install ncurses?
[11:38] <nicram> ubotu : http://www.gnu.org/software/java/java.html as opposed to http://java.sun.com
[11:38] <ubotu> nicram: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[11:38] <MachineScrew> though you upload speed sound high
[11:38] <Jedrick> hyphenated:  yes
[11:38] <cocox> hey dude i typed "apt-cache search wine" and nothing happends ..................
[11:38] <_iGadget_> evening
[11:38] <Jedrick> when trying to do the command make.. and the result is that
[11:38] <MachineScrew> mine is on 50KB/s
[11:38] <hyphenated> Jedrick: why are you compiling it, instead of installing the package?
[11:38] <_iGadget_> can anyone tell me how to get my promise sx4000 card running in Ubuntu?
[11:38] <cocox> hey dude i typed "apt-cache search wine" and nothing happends
[11:38] <Jedrick> im trying to install
[11:39] <MachineScrew> my download is high 4Mb/s that like 400KB/s
[11:39] <yaaar> every time i run apt-get update i get weird gpg errors...
[11:39] <zrothe> liquidten2: that command doesn't seem to work. It says mount: not a directory
[11:39] <yaaar> my sources.list is pulled direct from ubuntuguide.org
[11:39] <hyphenated> Jedrick: is there a reason that you're compiling it yourself tho, instead of using the package for it?
[11:39] <tankenmate> nalioth: you around?
[11:40] <MachineScrew> how do I make a USB HD ext3 filesystem writeable in Nautilus
[11:40] <Jedrick> hyphenated: where can i download ncurses for ubuntu?
[11:40] <tankenmate> MachineScrew: It should mount rw if the device is writeable..
[11:40] <MachineScrew> nalioth: whois your dog
[11:40] <liquidten2> Jedrick: in the apt repositories.  You may have to enable the multiverse and universe repos though
[11:40] <MachineScrew> tankenmate: nope
[11:41] <som1> how do i get this package called "realtme-lsm-module"?
[11:41] <MachineScrew> tankenmate: it should be but it isn't
[11:41] <gusto5> MachineScrew, does it show up on fstab?
[11:41] <som1> it wont let me "just" get it
[11:41] <MachineScrew> on sec
[11:41] <tankenmate> MachineScrew: have you fooled around with udev settings?
[11:41] <Jedrick> i did enable the repos..
[11:41] <hyphenated> Jedrick: it's probably already installed. what does 'dpkg -l ncurses-*' say? lots of ii's?
[11:41] <MachineScrew> tankenmate: nope
[11:41] <Jedrick> dunno
[11:41] <MachineScrew> gusto5: an no but its mounted
[11:41] <frontier> Downstream  	1844 Kbps (230.5 KB/sec)  	
[11:41] <frontier> Upstream 	29 Kbps (3.6 KB/sec)
[11:41] <ptlo> Jedrick, apt-cache search ncurses will show the available packages related to it. then apt-get install <package_name> ... note, if you need to compile software that *uses* ncurses, you'll probably need -dev packages (which aren't installed by default)
[11:42] <nicram> ubotu: you said " ubotu: I guess javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)" , I'm just saying that I think javadeb may be the gnu implimentation as opposed to the sun implementation.
[11:42] <ubotu> nicram: what are you talking about?
[11:42] <gusto5> MachineScrew, you in breezy?
[11:42] <som1> ...
[11:42] <Jedrick> when trying to install ncurses i got this error: ../c++/cursesw.h:17:23: error: strstream.h: No such file or directory
[11:42] <Jedrick> strstream whats that
[11:42] <kbrooks> string stream
[11:42] <MachineScrew> gusto5: yep I always have this problem and I forget how I solved it
[11:42] <nicram> ubotu: sorry if I'm mistaken..
[11:42] <ubotu> nicram: No idea
[11:43] <hyphenated> Jedrick: now really, are you listening to anybody but yourself?
[11:43] <kbrooks> nicram: ubuntu is a bot
[11:43] <kbrooks> http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[11:43] <kbrooks> check it
[11:44] <nicram> kbrooks: thanks for letting me know - I may have just failed the turing test :-(
[11:44] <Jedrick> im just a newbie .. im trying to install psybnc and it needs ncurses thats why i get here.. and i dont know whats that all about
[11:45] <MachineScrew> gusto5: so what do you think it is
[11:45] <MachineScrew> tankenmate: any ideas
[11:45] <kbrooks> nicram: er, ubotu
[11:45] <andril> does anyone know why my screensaver locks the pc?
[11:45] <hyphenated> Jedrick: ok, listen really closely. you do not need to compile ncurses
[11:45] <acid2> hihi
[11:45] <gusto5> MachineScrew, looking up stuff for it. sec.
[11:45] <hyphenated> Jedrick: that doesn't need repeating, does it?
[11:45] <acid2> Where can I find info on resolving GPG errors with apt?
[11:46] <St3althcAt> hi guys
[11:46] <Jedrick> yes im not compiling it im trying to install
[11:46] <hyphenated> Jedrick: what you _do_ need to do, is install a "-dev" package, which is required when you want to compile something else against a particular library
[11:46] <symlink001> hey, does anyone know how to get contacts into evolution based on the contents of an IMAP folder?
[11:46] <ptlo> Jedrick, install 'libncurses5-dev' package. you can do it with: "sudo apt-get install libncurses-5" (apt-get install -> installs a package). after that, try to rebuild psybnc
[11:46] <St3althcAt> having problem playing World of Warcraft, it hangs when I select Enter World, can still hear sound but stays at the loading screen
[11:46] <hyphenated> Jedrick: so, install libncurses-dev
[11:46] <St3althcAt> drivers work well
[11:46] <gusto5> MachineScrew, i cant quite remember, but i had the smae problem with my USB drive as well
[11:47] <necator> hi
[11:47] <Jedrick> ok i'll try
[11:47] <St3althcAt> using Cedega 4.4.1
[11:47] <St3althcAt> any ideas?
[11:47] <necator> i have a 3 button mouse third button is middle scroll wheel but the scroll wheel doesnt seem to work how do I activate it ?
[11:47] <jrattner1> Can you download music with bit torrent
[11:47] <MachineScrew> gusto5: this shouldn't happen on default if Ubuntu is supposed to be easy
[11:47] <crimsun> St3althcAt: you should try 4.4.3
[11:47] <acid2> Where can I find info on resolving GPG errors with apt?
[11:47] <St3althcAt> ok, thx :)
[11:47] <yaaar> is there something wrong with the signature on the hoary-updates?
[11:47] <MachineScrew> gusto5: then again I have this problem in any distro
[11:48] <Seveas> acid2, yaaar just WAIT
[11:48] <acid2> :)
[11:48] <Seveas> and retry in a few minutes
[11:48] <gusto5> MachineScrew, me too. but that said, ive only used slackware and this
[11:48] <Seveas> if it doesn't work, retry later
[11:48] <gusto5> MachineScrew, and it's a one time-fixer right?
[11:48] <acid2> sorry, its real late hear and im exhausted :( Sorry about the impatience
[11:48] <Seveas> during updates at the archive this may happen
[11:48] <gusto5> MachineScrew, next time you plug it in it works fine?
[11:48] <yaaar> Seveas: oh, ok, that's fine.......i just didn't know, because everyone was ignoring my question
[11:48] <nalioth> jrattner1: anything anyone offers as a torrent, you can d/l
[11:48] <MachineScrew> gusto5: I was about to say the no matter the distro
[11:48] <tankenmate> nalioth: i found the problem :)
[11:49] <Rudemeister> anyone:
[11:49] <Rudemeister> Initializing Java Virtual Machine from /tmp/OraInstall2005-10-17_11-47-46PM/jre/bin/java. Please wait...
[11:49] <Rudemeister> /tmp/OraInstall2005-10-17_11-47-46PM/jre/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:49] <jrattner1> nalioth, whats the website, which is like a database of torrents something nova.. or i could be wrong
[11:49] <luicson> SAVC
[11:49] <nalioth> jrattner1: legaltorrents.com
[11:49] <necator> i have a 3 button mouse third button is middle scroll wheel but the scroll wheel doesnt seem to work how do I activate it ?
[11:49] <nalioth> Rudemeister: please dont paste in here
[11:49] <yaaar> Seveas: if the repo is busted, that would be a good thing to add to the topic...
[11:49] <jrattner1> nalioth, thanx
[11:49] <MachineScrew> gusto5: or even a reinstall this only happens on newlly formated drives
[11:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Rudemeister about paste
[11:49] <nalioth> jrattner1: we do not discuss or advocate illegal filesharing in here
[11:49] <carlos_> vf vf
[11:50] <jrattner1> nalioth, im not trying to I just wasnt sure the name of a website...
[11:50] <nicram> Rudemeister: apt-get install libstc++ (do apt-cache search libstdc to find a list)
[11:50] <carlos_> fddfs
[11:50] <tankenmate> nalioth: the machine had a memory problem, i ran memtest for 24 hours and a number of glitches showed up.. and i fixed the problem with the boot with a custom kernel, loop mounted the dist iso, copied it onto an external USB drive and modified the kernel and booted from that..
[11:51] <necator> i have a 3 button mouse third button is middle scroll wheel but the scroll wheel doesnt seem to work how do I activate it ?
[11:51] <Rudemeister> nicram:  I did:S
[11:51] <tankenmate> necator: it should work by default..
[11:51] <Rudemeister> *, sorry!
[11:51] <Rudemeister> please see: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3261
[11:51] <nalioth> tankenmate: cool! (whatever you said :)  )
[11:51] <necator> I think i said no to the 3 mouse button emulation on the instalation.
[11:51] <_iGadget_> hmz... seems like promise support for linux is a bitch :(
[11:52] <necator> Thinking that i didnt have to "emulate" it since I actually have 3 buttons.
[11:52] <nalioth> Rudemeister: you probably need the above pkg with -dev on it's end
[11:52] <tankenmate> nalioth: heh :) i had the problem needing to install from a custom kernel on some difficult hardware :P two days ago..
[11:52] <acid2> Where can I find info on resolving GPG errors with apt?
[11:52] <_iGadget_> guess I'll have to re-install windows to get my sx4000 card working :(
[11:52] <tankenmate> nalioth: im sure you have helped a million people since then :P
[11:52] <nicram> Rudemeister : have you tried doing a strace on the whole lot, ie strace [command]  and see what the last few lines of output say.
[11:52] <Rudemeister> nalioth: I installed the dev.
[11:52] <gusto5> sorry MachineScrew, i cant find the solution. but ill kep looking
[11:52] <calamari> can anyone help me get firefox working again?  here is info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77984
[11:53] <nicram> Rudemeister : or change the script to use the SUn Java JRE.
[11:53] <tankenmate> nacator: do you have a line that mentions "ZAxisMapping" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[11:53] <Jedrick> hyphenated:  dude it's still not working on psybnc
[11:53] <necator> not sure.
[11:53] <necator> Is there a fast way I can check?
[11:53] <MachineScrew> gusto5: pm me when you do I got to do some stuff
[11:53] <gusto5> MachineScrew, so it doesnt show up on /etc/fstab at all?
[11:53] <tankenmate> necator: $ egrep ZAxisMapping /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:53] <nalioth> Rudemeister: got your libc6 =bleh=  -dev files?
[11:53] <MachineScrew> gusto5: nope
[11:53] <necator> what does the $egrep part do just for personal knowledge?
[11:53] <nicram> Rudemeister : the oracle java may be specifically compiled for a redhat library(or other distro) library and not be compatible.
[11:53] <MachineScrew> gusto5: but its mounted
[11:54] <nicram> Rudemeister: also install the libstc++-dev... can't think of anything else to suggest.
[11:54] <tankenmate> necator: fire up a terminal, then type everything after the '$' symbol and then hit return
[11:54] <yaaar> hey guys....has the package for the gnome-clipboard-daemon changed its name? i thought it was 'smeg' but there's no package named that in the apt-cache
[11:54] <gusto5> right MachineScrew. never mind then
[11:54] <MachineScrew> gusto5: /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[11:54] <gusto5> even weirder...
[11:54] <necator> no such file or dir tankenmate.
[11:54] <yaaar> sorry i'm stupid
[11:54] <tankenmate> Machine: It _is_ mounted rw, well the kernel thinks so anyway...
[11:54] <gusto5> mounted but not writeable?
[11:54] <nalioth> yaaar: smeg is the menu editor
[11:54] <yaaar> i meant to say the menu editor
[11:55] <yaaar> nalioth yeah
[11:55] <tankenmate> machine: sure the hardware doesn't have write protect on?
[11:55] <nalioth> yaaar: in breezy, right click on your menu
[11:55] <Rudemeister> nicram: tnx
[11:55] <yaaar> nalioth; i'm in hoary
[11:55] <necator> Ok it wored was a typo.
[11:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell yaaar about smeg
[11:55] <tankenmate> necator: w00t!
[11:55] <MachineScrew> tankenmate: this is a regular hardrive
[11:55] <yaaar> thanks nalioth
[11:55] <necator> Doesnt appear to ahve done anything tho.
[11:55] <nalioth> yaaar: i recommend the installsmeg script from the smeg homepage
[11:55] <yaaar> nalioth; you'd do that rather than backports?
[11:55] <tankenmate> necator: well you should have a working scroll... maybe your mouse type was incorrectly detected..
[11:56] <MachineScrew> tankenmate: the only thing that i have done to it is formated it it is in a ADS ext enclosure
[11:56] <nicram> Rudemeister: would definately download sun JRE and symlink it in (ln -s ) - as a temp hack... ;-)
[11:56] <insta> Hey guys ... I'm having problems with GDP authenticating through LDAP (PAM).  Console logins work just fine, and 'startx' will launch the X display as it should ... but logging in through GDM hangs after the password.  It just sits there, no error messages.  KDM doesn't do it.  Any advice?
[11:56] <Rudemeister> nicram: I think I must: libc6-dev is already the newest version.
[11:56] <gusto5> MachineScrew, anything on dmesg?
[11:56] <tankenmate> necator: $ egrep Protocol /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:56] <yaaar> nalioth; also, with respect to the clipboard daemon (the next thing i'm gonna do) is there anything around for gnome that's like klipper for KDE? like, where i can keep a clipboard history?
[11:56] <MachineScrew> gusto5: one sec
[11:57] <necator> protocol is imps/2
[11:57] <Doclotus> I installed xorg after installing gdm, gdm isn't loading at all now and hanging my session. How do I keep GDM from trying to load at startup so I can troubleshoot?
[11:57] <tankenmate> necator: what dos it say?
[11:57] <tankenmate> machine: hmmm sounds weird.. definitely sounds like a hardware issue..
[11:57] <insta> Doclotus: boot it in recovery mode?
[11:57] <nalioth> yaaar: if it's not in the repos, check sourceforge.net or freshmeat.net (i'm sure there is something)
[11:58] <nalioth> yaaar: backports? for what?
[11:58] <Doclotus> I'm in recovery mode now, but no idea how to tell it to not load on startup
[11:58] <tankenmate> machine: just a tick while i hunt around hdparm man pages..
[11:58] <P229> is tspc not working for anyone else?
[11:58] <insta> Does anyone have experience with GDM and LDAP?
[11:58] <necator> tankenmate how can i detect it over again.
[11:59] <MachineScrew> gusto5: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3262
[11:59] <tankenmate> machine: does hdparm -r /dev/sd<which ever device> return 0 or 1?
[12:00] <tankenmate> necator: well imps/2 is the most common five button mouse (three normal, one up scroll, one down scroll)