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ddunneso, i have a question if anyone is currently on...03:38
ddunnei'm looking at the wiki page, and the art.ubuntu.com page, and i'm not really finding anything that says, "we need this, who wants to do it?"  do we have a list somewhere on projects that need to be worked on?03:39
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artnayddunne: as far as I know, there's no up-to-date list available. maybe you should post mailing lists about it.01:12
artnayartwork needs a good project leader or a few...01:12
artnayactually I think Canonical should hire at least one full-time developer dedicated to artwork01:13
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ddunne_So, should we just create a section on the wiki page with projects on it and more or less some specifics?03:45
ddunne_i mean, there's already the projects section, but all it has is the humility icons project03:46
artnayit should have also calendar, gtk and metacity themes etc.03:58
artnaydefault backgrounds included?03:59
artnaythe current default is quite messy and breezy doesn't have a consistent theme03:59
artnayimo the current splash theme is nice, but when it comes to gdm and desktop04:01
artnayI'd rather see i.e. simple human gdm and background based on that (actually I guess the background was first and GDM was made after that)04:01
artnaythen colours would match all the way from booting to desktop04:02
artnaywhat do you guys think?04:03
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artnayI might be missing something since my system is dist-upgraded since warty, but hopefully breezy CDs will ship soon04:04
artnayI'm just curious how will artteam and desktopteam co-operate from now on04:09
artnayand where is ubuntulog's log located?04:09
ddunne_which log?04:09
artnaylog of #ubuntu-artwork04:10
ddunne_http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/04:10
artnayok, thanks. where did you get the URL?04:11
ddunne_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtTeam04:11
artnayguess I haven't been paying enough attention04:11
artnay;)04:11
artnaythat too obvious04:11
ddunne_so as far as projects, we need to add [calendar, gtk, and metacity] ?04:12
ddunne_i just happen to have that page open04:12
artnayand AUC should be promoted, I can't find a link there from www.ubuntulinux.org04:13
artnayI mean, let's make it more public04:14
ddunne_AUC?04:14
artnayart.ubuntu.com04:14
ddunne_i think that until we get a little more organized, we should keep that on the dl as just a repository, but that's just me04:15
artnaythat's an idea, too. AUC needs more functions (and content!) anyway, so maybe it could be announced later on when some work has been done to it04:17
artnayit's not well-known at the moment. people keep sending their work to gnome-look, kde-look, deviantart, their own websites etc.04:18
artnaymaybe we should mail those guys and ask for their permission to add their contributions to AUC04:19
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artnaythere's 23+1 people involved in artteam according to wiki, but still it's quiet in here and lists :(04:22
artnaywhat do you think about the idea of asking people to share their work in AUC?04:23
ddunne_that would be damn fine, but i doubt they would do the work, i think we just need someone in charge of contacting people that submit to those sources, and getting their permission/ask them to submit their work to auc04:23
ddunne_well, i am just getting unburdened from bieng basically snowed under at work from hurricanes katrina and rita04:24
ddunne_so that's why i'm chimimg in so late04:24
artnayand artteam should also be in contact with desktop team as it seems they share the same goals04:25
artnayat leasts goals should be separated so that the same thing won't be done twice04:27
ddunne_i think that ours is definately a less intergal role, we make pictures, they write code... but we should have an...emmisary or something to coordinate and offer up stuff that we came up with definately04:30
artnayddunne: what's your nick or have you registered to forums/AUC?04:31
artnayI think desktop team's goals could be something like what's shown in ~ by default, how to make nautilus to fit ubuntu ideology, how to install stuff from AUC easily etc.04:33
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artnayoh yeah, and at least mozilla fx and tb should have ubuntu-like icons that would match to icons used in GNOME04:47
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ddunne_haven't registered on the forums, but it will be my wikiname, and for mozilla stuff, we should just come up with a mozilla theme to be used for both with ubuntu04:59
artnayddunne: yeah, maybe that's true. people who have used fx with default theme should feel familiar with the GUI that ubuntu presentes to them, so...05:17
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ddunne_also, if we just do a theme, we can put it on update.mozilla.org, and get a little free press so to speak05:26
derek[] Hi :-)05:27
artnayand how about terminal theme? should it be just plain black on white?05:31
artnayit would be nice to have a consistent colour/shape theme for all the common applications05:32
artnaybtw, if you're using irssi, here's a nice brownish theme for it: http://www.irssi.org/themes/ash.png (http://www.irssi.org/themes/ash.theme)05:34
derek[] hi artnay 05:37
artnayhey derek[]  05:37
artnayit's been lively day here on #ubuntu-artwork today ;)05:38
derek[] :)05:40
derek[] That's nice to hear!05:40
ddunne_yeah, we've been coming up with a list of projects that we need to work on, because as far as i can tell, we have basically no direction or guideline for what needs to be done that we can find on our pages06:28
ddunne_so far, we've come up with a few projects that we should make some wiki pages for and link to on our artteam page [calendar, gtk, metacity, mozilla themes] 06:30
artnaywhat about konsole theme?06:32
artnaygnome-terminal of course06:32
artnayand other "miscallenous" programs06:35
ddunne_i actually haven't delved into linux that much, and all i have done is in gnome, so judging by that auspicious looking k instead of a c, i'm guessing that it is for kde06:36
ddunne_my vote is that we just focus on what is provided on the install disk, all other things come in second06:36
artnayddunne: yeah, gnome-terminal is included (of course) by default06:37
ddunne_indeed it is06:37
artnayI prefer KDE over GNOME, but as G stays as a default DE for ubuntu, then it needs to be polished06:37
artnayas many default packages as possible06:38
artnaypeople say they don't like the brownish theme, but I guess they just mean the current default theme06:38
ddunne_that's what i'm talking about, once we manage to get rolling, we'll probably have to split into ubuntu and kubuntu art teams, but that would be much farther down the line06:39
artnayhttp://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/theme/screenshots/CL_Cairo-Human.jpg06:39
artnaytake that as an example, I think that's nicely done GNOME06:39
artnayI think kubuntu-artteam exists already06:40
artnaynot sure though, but I recall reading something about it (forum/lists)06:40
ddunne_yeah, that's sexy06:40
ddunne_there looks to be a kubuntu artwork page, but no actual team06:41
artnayI use KDE but I just can't use the default blue theme06:42
artnaybrown is nice, and it's easy to tweak KDE to use it06:42
ddunne_i have k installed on this box, i just don't use it, it's a little to goofy for me, gnome just feels better06:43
ddunne_but i've been a windows admin forever, and am now just hitting up linux06:44
artnayI feel that GNOME restricts user to do so many basic things that I can't stand it06:44
artnaythat's because it's "easier to use" then. well, whatever. it's nice to have choice06:44
artnayenough for now. I have to go and see my girl friend. bye all!06:45
ddunne_adios06:45
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