[12:03] and would anyone object to me packing up the remaining DevHelp Books? [12:03] ajmitch: I agree it just seems like a lot of the info on the wiki is more internal than for somebody on the outside wanting to help [12:03] Kyral: no objection from me [12:04] http://htmlhelp.berlios.de/books/devhelp.php <-- Like the ones on this list that aren't there ;P [12:04] LaserJock: probably, but that's a wiki thing rather than an organisational problem where we need to introduce yet another level of developer [12:04] 'cause I just found the program and I was like "Holy.....****" [12:04] ok, well maybe scrap the MOTU Apprentice thing but reorganize some of the wiki and put some more direction into it [12:04] LaserJock: sure, we'll probably do that [12:05] it's just that too many of us having been busy fixing breezy rather than doing wiki work [12:05] I am certainly not stuck on the Apprentice thing, it just seemed like an easy way of organizing activity, but maybe it is not that easy [12:05] Maybe make a MOTU In Training Team (or someting like that) === ajmitch managed to join up before there was much of a wiki page to go by :) [12:06] ajmitch: but that is my point, you guys are working on important stuff, but those of use who can't do that would still like to help we just don't know what to do [12:07] I would love to work on the wiki because I had a lot of struggles and I think that most of the MOTU don't really need advice on how to build a package ;-) [12:07] this shouldn't be too hard [12:07] just very VERY repetitive... === koke [n=koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:08] LaserJock: feel free to add stuff to the wiki then :) [12:09] just add it, you'll get comments when needed [12:09] we'll try to resist mercilessly flaming if you get something wrong ;) [12:10] ajmitch: but see I don't know where I fit in, I will probably never be a MOTU and I don't want to mess with things. If there was something on the wiki that said "we need help organizing the wiki", I would have been all over it [12:10] and I feel like there must be other people like me [12:10] but maybe not [12:11] hi again! [12:11] wb koke [12:11] hmm 'we need help organizing the wiki' [12:11] wait a sec laser [12:12] ok, so maybe I will change my my MOTUApprenticeProposal to a MOTUForNewbiesProposal [12:13] LaserJock: see MOTUTodo [12:13] and go ahead :) [12:13] once it finishes updating one sec :) [12:13] ;-) [12:14] ok, but see I didn't want to mess anything up. Now I can do it ;-) [12:14] feel free, and just blame me === sbartleylinux [n=sbartley@67.108.61.130.ptr.us.xo.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [12:14] documentation and information is always good [12:17] ok, thanks for the feedback, I am going to make an alternative proposal for the MOTU meeting and see what happens === LaserJock shrinks back into the dark basment lab he came from [12:17] just put it online and wait for the feedback [12:23] MOTU: is it ok if I reject Bug #3252 ? [12:23] judging by the response of the filer it is fixed === nybble [n=nybble@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/nybble] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] well, I don't think it was ever a problem [12:24] and it's also not really adviced to do a upgrade from warty to breezy without the knowledge that something might break [12:24] I don't see it as a bug [12:24] but I'm not a MOTU :) [12:24] LaserJock: no, it's something we should have caught before release [12:24] it's a corner case, unfortunately [12:25] wxgtk2.5.3 should have never been in hoary [12:25] so, is it a bug that need's to be taken care of === ajmitch thought it was fixed, but obviously not [12:25] LaserJock: yes [12:25] well, one of Debian ways of fixing it was ripping wxwidgets2.5.3 from the archive [12:25] heh [12:25] that isn't really a fix [12:25] but yeah, leave the bug there. We'll have to tweak debian/control [12:25] we should just add conflicts/replaces [12:25] that's destruction :) [12:26] could one of you place a comment then? [12:26] ok, I will try to do that [12:26] Mortas: licensing issue [12:27] I am the second person on there so I will follow up and attach a debdiff, unless you guys don't want me too [12:27] a debdiff would be fine [12:27] go ahead [12:29] hmm [12:29] it looks like I can remake the DevHelp-Books package easy === herzi [n=herzi@c141010.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=blackbir@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] Okay....leave it to me :D [12:36] go Kyral go Kyral you can do it [12:36] ;) === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] It should be easy. Just VERY repetitive... [12:37] hello jaldhar [12:37] just to check, a tgz is exactly the same thing as a tar.gz [12:37] yes [12:38] okay === Kyral looks through the book [12:38] I may have to update all the books... [12:40] package hasn't been touched in almost a year [12:41] Kyral: last one to touch it was probably Mithrandir or doko or smurfix IIRC :) [12:42] Kyral: why do they all need updated? [12:42] -- Gustavo Noronha Silva Mon, 1 Nov 2004 21:02:35 -0300 [12:42] <---Last Entry in the changelog [12:43] Dunno...the source they were using is all outdated books. I found more recent ones on another site... [12:43] Kyral: what are you trying to do with it? [12:43] (btw) [12:43] add a lot of books :P [12:44] http://htmlhelp.berlios.de/books/devhelp.php <---This is the most recent "repo" of books I could find [12:44] Kyral: as a note, devhelp-books has been removed from debian unstable [12:44] ah [12:45] Its a really cool package.....I like :D [12:45] right, DFSG violation.. [12:45] I'm like "Waitaminute....I can have ALL this documentation in one place? That doesn't require web access? NIIIIIIICE!" [12:45] DFSG? [12:46] GFDL, we have to find out what the policy will be with those docs [12:46] debian free software guidelines [12:46] GFDL? === azeem [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch sighs.. :) [12:47] gnu free documentation license.. [12:47] They appear to be all GPL or the FOSS License [12:49] and bingo.....found something that I was looking for :D [12:50] the CHM Formatted books are newer than the Devhelp ones [12:50] and there is a script that converts CHM Books into DevHelp Books :D === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] you have to be careful with the license [12:52] http://htmlhelp.berlios.de/ [12:52] Its under LGPL [12:56] Is LGPL alright for Ubuntu? [12:56] of course [12:57] it's just a question of whether the GFDL is [12:57] which the devhelp-books package is under [12:57] So....many.....licenses... [12:58] wouldn't GFDL == GPL....some gimme a copy of it [12:59] no, GFDL != GPL === ajmitch will bbl [01:00] I'm just skimming the license and it seems like its just the GPL, but applied to Documentation.... [01:00] then again, IANAL [01:02] lol [01:02] It means I Am Not A Lawyer... [01:09] http://www.gnu.org/gear/gnu20th-tshirt.html === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] Kyral: unfortunately. It's not... === leito [n=lea@200-55-64-198.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200.246.97.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bipolar [n=bipolar@66.216.151.160.dynamic.dejazzd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nybble [n=nybble@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/nybble] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] iirc, the matter was the GFDL has support for invariant sections, so it was considered non-free according to the dfsg === koke kicks himself for putting 3 acronyms in the same line :P [01:44] time to sleep, bye === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] marcin_ant: hell [01:52] hello ;) === nyblioth [n=nybble@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/nybble] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch returns [02:04] tasty lunch? [02:04] yep [02:05] bacon & egg sandwich :) [02:05] yarrr === tritium [n=michael@216.84.35.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch writes up a rambling u-devel email === tritium [n=michael@216.84.35.66] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [02:21] hm, no herve === ajmitch wonders why a duplicate bug watch was added to a bug === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-064-157.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral is bored === Kyral wants to resolve this license issue === Kyral pulls out a bat and goes looking for who to ask === zenrox hides [02:41] Seriously, I can understand the need for caring about Licensing, but the GFDL comes from the same place as the LGPL and the GPL, so in my mind there is no problem. [02:42] Kyral: that's nice, but it doesn't mean it necessarily fits the DFSG [02:43] http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.html as a summary [02:43] .....since when are we Debian ;P [02:44] Sorry, I have this ongoing fued with a friend who is Debian and everytime I mention trying to become a developer he tells me "Stay Out Of My Distro" [02:44] that's what we have to clarify.. the extent to which we follow things like the DFSG [02:44] a friend who is debian? [02:45] He uses Debian and the fact that I use Ubuntu irks him (Ubuntu in general that is) [02:45] so he uses debian, he's not a debian developer..? [02:45] Nope [02:45] Its my puny excuse at a pun ;P [02:45] what does he have to whine about then? [02:45] Dunno, but its very funny at times [02:48] id like to see his look when you install a new ver in 6months [02:48] and he has to wate for 6 years [02:48] or when one of my fixes in universe syncs back to sid and he installs it ;P === ajmitch notes that many ubuntu developers are debian developers also.. :) [02:49] I dunno, the hostility started with him [02:49] ya i know maby this will help move the unmovable debian ;) [02:49] lol [02:49] Frankly I'd mix Debian and Ubuntu at will [02:49] me too [02:50] dont get me wrong [02:50] "Linux For Human Beings" also "Debian For Human Beings" ;P [02:51] Which is how I sometimes describe it... [02:51] just that maby the ubuntu devel will get put in to debian and help debian speed it devel process [02:54] Frankly I'm one of those people who use the best tool for the job. If there are two tools (GNU and Proprietary) that both do the job as well as each other, I'll use the GNU one. If the Proprietary tool works better (and it runs on Linux) I'll use it. If I have to shatter license agreements along the way its all the same to me. I did it enough during my Windows era [02:56] Indeed something that attracted me to Linux initially was that I could get a lot of stuff free LEGALLY === Kyral blinks [02:57] Why did i just do that? [02:57] we don't know [02:57] Neither do I.... [02:58] sorry about that :D [03:02] I think I need a vacation....between school and clubs I hardly have anytime to relax === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487F95B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] I need HALO.... [03:05] vacation for me=UBZ [03:05] Yah, but I think I have an exam the week after [03:05] Believe me if I didn't have class I would be there the entire week [03:05] I wouldn't understand half the technical stuff, but it would be better than sitting in class :D [03:06] Vacation for me == Thanksgiving Break and my Grandma's cooking :D [03:06] are you going to be at UBZ for a couple of days? [03:07] Nah, just for Ubuntu Love [03:07] Like I said, I have classes that week :P [03:08] But I'll wind up giving a presentation on it for the COSI :D [03:11] So I'll be taking loads of pictures :D === blueyed_ [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] ...actually it will be a mini-vacation....yaaaah [03:19] I'll see you there mitch? === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] yo bddebian [03:20] Heya Kyral [03:20] yes [03:20] Hi ajmitch [03:20] hello Master deFreese [03:20] I think I'm talking too much again [03:20] Bah, Master Bater ;-) [03:21] bddebian: remember the code of conduct :P [03:21] What's that? :) [03:21] But you are a Master Debater ;P [03:23] bddebian, are you gonna be at UBZ? [03:23] Kyral: Unfortunately no [03:23] I'll email you pictures from Ubuntu Love Day ;P [03:23] Wow....I'm hyper right now.....not good.... [03:24] Kyral: what exams do you have? [03:24] They wouldn't let me into Canuckistan with all my NRA and GWB stickers... ;-P [03:24] The week during UBZ? [03:24] I think Calculus 2 [03:24] my worst subject.... [03:24] Calculus.. Ugh [03:25] mmm === ajmitch hasn't done calculus since 1st year at uni [03:26] When was that, last year youngin'? ;-) [03:26] Why a hacker needs to know how to find the volume of the region bounded by x=2 and x=6 and the line y=tan(x)cos(x) rotated around the line y=1 is beyond me [03:26] no, 2001 :) [03:26] Kyral: so will you be of legal drinking age at UBZ? :) [03:26] In Canada :P [03:26] I'm 20 ;P [03:26] ah yes [03:26] But I don't drink [03:26] canada has a sensible age like NZ does [03:27] I don't drink much :) [03:27] Dude, if you saw what Caffine + Sugar does to me, you'd know why I don't drink [03:28] Kyral: high fives [03:28] haha [03:28] for non-drinkers === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-41-127.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] caffiene+sugar doesn't have the required effect on me [03:30] Plus I can unlock that mode sometimes (spontaneous energy surge) [03:30] I'll prolly be near that mode at Ubuntu Love. Being around loads of people also does it to me (kinda like feeding offa the vibe thing) === zakame [n=zakame@203.215.86.76] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] ah, the vibe.. [03:31] I'll be like "Whoa! Cool! Dude!" === ajmitch will probably be over that by then [03:31] eh? [03:31] long flights [03:31] lol [03:31] Montreal is 2 hours from Clarkson [03:32] drive that is [03:32] NZ is several hours from Montreal [03:32] No kiddin' ;P [03:32] it'll be good to meet some of the guys again though [03:32] I've never met any of you guys [03:32] Thats why I'm so psyched [03:34] well UDU was the first time I met a lot of the developers in person [03:34] Actually this is my first Linux Conference type thing period [03:37] fun, TB meeting tomorrow [03:37] Can I come? [03:37] Just to like watch? === JanC [n=janc@dD5E086DA.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:37] sure [03:37] it's a public IRC channel [03:38] when (GMT if you don't mind) [03:38] 2000 [03:38] so 1500 EST..... [03:39] pretend you met me and ajmitch at the same time [03:39] we are clones [03:39] eh? === Kaloz [n=kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] Are they gonna bring in mjg59 tomorrow? [03:40] rage @ screen + gnome terminal === ajmitch has given up on gnome-termial for that reason [03:40] yeah it gets old installing urxvt on every box [03:41] GNOME Term works fine for me [03:41] and copying my .Xdefaults [03:41] Kyral: corner case.. [03:41] but HALO calls :P [03:41] screen hates resizing === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:41] gnome terminal resizes every time you blink [03:41] it does? [03:41] yes [03:41] Doesn't for me [03:42] open a tab = bigger window [03:42] Ah, I don't open tabs :P [03:42] why the other operations cause the same effect im not so sure [03:42] menus and stuff make screen go bonkers [03:42] if I need another term I just fire up another instance ;P [03:43] Then agian I also disabled the Menu Bar in GNOME Terminal [03:43] anyway, HALO! [03:43] Nah, Dungeon Seige II tonight ;-P [03:44] whoa [03:44] DS II [03:44] awsome === leetcharmer [n=ch4rm@pool-71-240-168-246.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] hello [03:44] hail, a donut_01 [03:44] hihi :D [03:44] Not really, I'm getting my arse kicked :-( [03:45] bddebian: fix bugs instead [03:45] lol [03:45] it's a less painful way to get kicked [03:45] yo jsgotangco [03:45] what's up? [03:45] ^_^ so -- I wanna get plugged in, where-to-start? [03:45] my skills are limited, but let me be used :D [03:45] hey [03:45] I totally support what you kids are doin' :D [03:46] leetcharmer: They can't be any more limited than mine :-) [03:46] bddebian: oh don't be silly [03:46] leetcharmer: we do new packages, fixing existing ones, etc [03:46] a start to what we do is at wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [03:46] okies [03:47] eg we've got a few bugs filed that we want to fix in dapper [03:47] ajmitch, what is the default programming language? [03:47] A few? ;-) [03:47] I know C++ (but forgetting) + Java (also forgetting) [03:48] leetcharmer: we don't do terribly much programming, though some people write applications [03:48] how else would U fix the bugs? [03:48] although I'm biased towards python for writing stuff :) [03:48] I know no python [03:48] EZ? [03:48] leetcharmer: many of them are packaging bugs, or applying patches from upstream [03:49] where upstream = debian or the original author [03:49] have ya'll figured a smooth transition way to upgrade Ubuntu releases rather than always reinstalling completely? [03:49] there's about 15000 packages or so in universe [03:49] leetcharmer: yes [03:49] dist-upgrade [03:49] cool [03:50] the last time I reinstalled my system was back in 2001, which was switching to debian [03:50] I hear that Ubuntu = forked from Debian [03:50] since then I've managed to just dist-upgrade my way to the latest system [03:50] aka -- didn't comply w/ rules of being under Debian -or- rules to claim to be Debian-based [03:51] we are separate from debian [03:51] but we stay as close as possible [03:51] especially for universe [03:51] what's the point? [03:51] and contribute fixes back [03:51] just to still utilize .deb pkg managers? [03:51] so that we improve debian as we go [03:51] no, to utilise all those packages in debian [03:51] if wishing to improve debian, why be separate? [03:51] which we regularly merge with [03:52] as I said, we contribute back to debian.. [03:52] leetcharmer: Differing goals [03:53] whereas other distros (such as MEPIS) have similar goals? [03:53] what are those 'goals'? [03:54] we have a 6-monthly release cycle, for example [03:54] compared to debian's 3-4 years [03:54] Debian wants to be the Universal OS. Very stable, etc. Ubuntu is more desktop / end-user geared. Too be overly simplistic. [03:55] hmm ... has anyone considered using LFS to be the basis of their OS and build upon the same standards, yet -- not necessarily being apart of a 'mother' distro that way? [03:55] a number of us work in debian teams as well, so that fixes we make aren't duplicated [03:55] LFS = Linux From Scratch [03:55] leetcharmer: if you want to, go ahead ;) [03:56] ajmitch, is that something ubuntu would be interested in? [03:56] we find debian a perfectly acceptable project [03:56] leetcharmer: not in the slightest [03:56] ajmitch, I see, then if that's the case, that's fine [03:56] there'd be so much that you'd duplicate that debian has built up over the years [03:58] ajmitch: well, I worked on organizing the MOTU wiki a bit but to be honest I really don't think I did much. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUForNewbiesProposal [03:58] ajmitch, ah, so this way we avoid reinvinting the wheel [03:58] http://autopackage.org/ - what are your thoughts about utilizing this? [03:58] LaserJock: thanks [03:59] leetcharmer: it's not going to happen, it's been discussed to death on the devel lists already [04:00] ajmitch, what's been said? [04:00] that it's not going to happen.. [04:00] well ya -- but detail-wise [04:00] & that it has a number of flaws [04:00] is the concept not good? [04:00] you may want to look in the archive yourself [04:00] can U linkme? [04:01] no, I'd have to look it up myself [04:01] ah, kk [04:01] so -- then the concept of a universal package manager is pretty whack? [04:02] just an example - http://www.netsplit.com/blog/tech/autopackage.html [04:02] http://www.netsplit.com/blog/tech/autopackage_II.html === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:04] autopackage is pretty whacked if you ask me [04:04] :) [04:07] hrmm ... well I guess because debs are already taken care of there's really nothing more that needs to be done [04:07] but if you wanted to install something from rpm, you gotta alien first [04:07] (methinks) [04:08] but, I suppose U could always go w/ tars [04:08] heah ajmitch: that python-wxversion bug (#3252) isn't as easy to fix as I thought. The Ubuntu source is FTBFS for me (unmet dep) [04:08] LaserJock: I doubt that.. [04:09] what are your thoughts on if somebody made a tgz installer that resembled autopackage in the way it manages programs? [04:09] ajmitch: I get libgtk2.0-dev: Depends: libpango1.0-dev (>= 1.9.1) but it is not going to be installed [04:09] Depends: libcairo1-dev (>= 0.6) but it is not going to be installed [04:09] LaserJock: sounds more like a broken system [04:09] since those packages are definitely there [04:09] hmm, I will go check my pbuilder [04:10] libcairo1-dev? doesn't libcairo2 conflict with libcairo1? [04:10] Amaranth: yes [04:10] so, um, yeah... [04:10] and python-wxversion source doesn't mention cairo in build-deps at all [04:11] so.. very out-of-date pbuilder, I'd say [04:12] hmm, but I just set it up today === Amaranth needs a breezy cd [04:12] i've got a new version of smeg ready for testing but i can't even test it myself because of the old bug where non-local filechoosers freeze [04:13] *hands Amaranth a breezy CD. [04:13] :/ [04:13] because of something that changed in gnome-vfs, i think [04:13] : uh [04:13] :/ [04:13] stupid IRC, I forgot commands [04:13] -.-* [04:14] Amaranth: how is that stopping you? [04:14] ajmitch: i can't make the filechooser non-local, it's a part of a gnomeui widget i use [04:14] and your system needs updated..? or how will a breezy cd help? [04:15] okies -- well, brb, gotta finish PE project :D === zakame_ [n=zakame@unaffiliated/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === leito [n=lea@200-55-64-198.dsl.prima.net.ar] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-152.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === daysleper [n=dayslepe@216-214-118.0501.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-152.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:45] hi all: are you getting GPG errors for breezy and breezy-updates when you apt-get update? [04:45] yay [04:46] seems that my computer is cooking & rebooting [04:46] LaserJock: yes, known, but unknown ETA. [04:47] whenever that happened to me before the mirror was in the middle of updating [04:47] ok, well does it cause any problems? [04:47] so it's probably from the heavy load === ajmitch might need to check out a new cooling fan ASAP :) [04:50] I am getting weird versioning with wxwidgets2.6 [04:50] the source? [04:50] that would be odd [04:50] 1st of all: when I try apt-get source wxwidgets2.6 I get 404's [04:51] and it's pointing to 2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2 [04:51] packages.ubuntu.com has the same thing [04:52] but on http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wxwidgets2.6/ it only has 2.6.1.1ubuntu3 === bigcx2_ [n=bigcx2@jpi-stillwatr-233-242.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] the mirror is in the middle of updating, p.u.c is out of date [04:53] that's the only thing i can think of [04:53] unless the archive is just broken [04:53] archive broken is probably more like it [04:53] so, should I just wait? === shadymike [n=mikeflet@S0106000d93773762.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shadymike [n=mikeflet@S0106000d93773762.cg.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@ip101109.101.nas.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] does anybody have a guess as to when the archive will be up to date? [05:20] hmm, just seems to be us.archive.ubuntu.com === TiMiDo [n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/timido] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sn9 [n=danielg4@gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:43] anybody here? [05:44] the ffmpeg pkg in universe needs to be rebuilt [05:44] ok [05:44] then rebuild it [05:45] i did, for myself, a rebuilt version needs to go into the repository [05:45] then talk to someone, [05:45] s/, a/, but a/ [05:45] talk to ogra [05:47] ok, any idea when ogra won't be afk? === derek [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sn9 is now known as sn9_ === sn9 [n=danielg4@gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nybble [n=nybble@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/nybble] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Treenaks [n=martijn@tunnel986.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-10-153-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kaloz [n=kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-092-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@unaffiliated/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1AE1.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] good morning [08:33] morning daniel [08:33] hey andrew :) [08:34] hi dholbach === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:34] hey zakame :) === CaiN_SA [n=cain@rrba-146-124-16.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:03] Good morning all === feclare [i=feclare@174.Red-217-127-200.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:18] morning [09:19]