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spstarr_homekmail: error while loading shared libraries: libkmime.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:35
spstarr_home?03:35
spstarr_homekmail broke in kubuntu beta 2?03:35
spstarr_home3.4.92-0ubuntu103:36
spstarr_homemissing dependency not picked up by apt03:36
Tm_Tyup03:37
Tm_Tlooks like kdepim is sort of broken03:37
spstarr_homeoh the whole gpg stuff is broke03:37
Tm_Ttrue03:37
spstarr_homelibgpgme++ not found ldd reports03:37
spstarr_homekleopatra 03:37
spstarr_homethere's always something wrong with the S/MIME stuff and such in kmail builds :(03:38
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Tm_Tspstarr_home: I have same problem with nspluginviewer04:00
spstarr_homeheh04:00
Tm_Tspstarr_home: remove netscape folders from pluing scan04:01
Tm_Tor what it is04:01
Tm_Tmore stable after that atleast here04:01
spstarr_homedid you restart Xorg after updating?04:01
Tm_Tnope04:04
Tm_Tuh, and stuff started workin here :o04:05
Tm_Tflash and others :o04:05
Tm_Tjust tested04:05
spstarr_homeheh04:06
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Tm_Thmh, has anyone seen hal fix?08:18
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_Tonio_hi all10:18
Tm_Thi10:19
Tm_Tstill no hal fix here10:19
_Tonio_Tm_T: damn.....10:23
_Tonio_you mean that you didn't found the updates ?10:23
Tm_T_Tonio_: I tried several mirrors10:23
_Tonio_hum..........;10:23
Tm_Thaven't seen it10:24
_Tonio_Tm_T: did you simply try archive.ubuntulinux.org ?10:24
Tm_Tarcive.ubuntu.com10:24
Tm_Th10:24
Tm_Tand fi. se. fr. 10:24
_Tonio_Yesterday evening the update was available again....10:24
Tm_Tnone is giving me any kde updates10:25
_Tonio_don't know what happened in the sync but there has been a problem.10:25
_Tonio_can you try de.10:25
_Tonio_?10:25
_Tonio_it was also available on de. yesterday evening10:25
Tm_TI'll try10:25
_Tonio_okay ;)10:26
Tm_Thmm, no?10:26
_Tonio_anyway, I may send you the 43 deb files if needed.... I should have them in my cache10:26
Tm_Thmm10:26
Tm_T43?10:26
_Tonio_yep10:26
Tm_T43?!10:26
Tm_Thaven't seen yet even ten new packages after breezy release10:27
Tm_Twell ok, beta210:27
Tm_Tbut other than that10:27
_Tonio_well there has been 43 packages updated yesterday ;)10:28
_Tonio_would you like a dcc ?10:28
Tm_Toh10:28
Tm_Tno10:28
Tm_Tno dcc, will go to server10:28
Tm_Twait...10:28
_Tonio_I can put that on an ftp.... or simply wait for Riddell to understand what happened with those updates10:29
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Tm_Konversationto me please10:29
_Tonio_with dcc so ?10:29
Tm_Konversationyes10:29
Tm_Konversationlocal irc client </310:30
Tm_TTm_Konversation: you suck10:31
Tm_Konversationyes I do10:31
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_Tonio_lol10:32
_Tonio_sent10:32
Tm_Thmm, doesn't seem to work10:33
Tm_Tftp/sir is ok10:33
_Tonio_router....10:33
_Tonio_yep i'll put that on my ftp wait....10:33
Tm_Tthanks10:34
_Tonio_7 minutes to upload, I'll give you the link just after that10:34
Tm_Tok10:36
Tm_Tnot hurry, I have to clean up my room10:36
Tm_Ttotal mess10:36
Tm_Talmost 3 weeks nothing but sitting in the corner leave some marks to room10:36
Tm_Tbut no sleep -> back is better10:40
_Tonio_Tm_T: http://www.planetemu.net/temp/updates.tar.gz10:43
Tm_Thuoh10:43
Tm_Tand so, konqi tries to open that package10:43
Tm_Twget ->10:43
_Tonio_or maybe just shift + click ;)10:44
_Tonio_or kget10:44
_Tonio_kget works fine :)10:44
Tm_Tjust shift+click in where?10:44
Tm_TI don't get the ui of Kget10:45
_Tonio_forget..... that works with konqueror, but not in konversation ;)10:45
Tm_TI don't use Konvi10:45
_Tonio_firefox ?10:45
Tm_TKonvi aka Konversation10:45
_Tonio_ah okay10:46
_Tonio_what do you use ? xchat ??10:46
Tm_Tno10:46
Tm_Tnothing gui for irc please10:46
_Tonio_telnet (^^)10:46
Tm_Tirssi <310:47
_Tonio_shell ??? really ?10:47
Tm_Tyu10:47
Tm_Tx210:47
Tm_Tactually x310:47
Tm_Thmm, I'm not addicted10:47
_Tonio_wow :)10:47
_Tonio_I appreciate the shell but I have limits ;)10:47
_Tonio_when I can do the same thing with a gui or with the shell I generally go with the gui10:48
Tm_Tif I can do things more easily and powerfully with gui, I'll use gui10:49
_Tonio_and you find cli irc easier that with a gui ? wat about tabs etc... ?10:50
Tm_Thmh, mplayer messed one of my Konsole tabs10:50
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Tm_T_Tonio_: http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_070.png10:53
Tm_Tsshfs <310:53
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_Tonio_Tm_T: okay you are using konsole for tabs.... why not ;)10:55
Tm_Tyes10:55
_Tonio_Tm_T: what's this language ? polish ?10:56
Tm_Teeh10:56
Tm_Thaista sin kuule paska10:56
Tm_Tno need to insult10:56
_Tonio_what ?10:56
_Tonio_where did I insult ? no just to know, for my curiosity ;) Did I say something incorrect ?10:57
Tm_Tcall a finnish guy polish and you're dead10:57
_Tonio_ah ;) sorry for this ;) I didn't knew ;)10:57
Tm_Tnp10:57
_Tonio_so you are finnish?10:57
Tm_Toh yes10:57
_Tonio_k10:58
_Tonio_Tm_T: did you finally download the updates ?10:58
Tm_T_Tonio_: yup10:58
Tm_TI'll check them10:59
Tm_Thmm, just drop them to package cache ...10:59
_Tonio_cool10:59
Tm_Thmh11:03
Tm_Tno, didn't help11:04
Tm_Thmm11:07
Tm_Twtf11:07
_Tonio_Tm_T: what's the problem installing the packages ?11:07
Tm_Tok :p11:07
Tm_T_Tonio_: downgrading etc11:07
_Tonio_you have 3.5 beta2 actually ?11:08
Tm_Toh yes11:08
_Tonio_ah..... that is indeed a bit more complicated :)11:08
Tm_Twell, it's not a problem, I can do upgrade again11:08
Tm_Tand reinstall my svn stuff etc11:08
_Tonio_isn't that the reason why you where not seeing any updates maybe ?11:09
Tm_Tpropably yes11:10
Tm_T:(11:10
Tm_Tand somebody got cleaned cache so need to download packages =)11:10
hungerkdesktop just crashed when inserting a usbdisk. Could this be hal-related?11:13
Tm_T:o11:14
_Tonio_Tm_T: remember what you told me yesterday ;) I think I was right waiting for RC to update to 3.5 ;)11:15
_Tonio_arts doesn't work according to what I heard, correct ?11:16
Tm_Tyup11:16
Tm_Tbut who needs arts anyway11:16
_Tonio_hunger: maybe..... but if you have a 3.4.3 version that shouldn't crash...11:16
=== hunger wishes for a KDE that does not crash so often.
Tm_T_Tonio_: ok, tell me, why you need arts?11:17
hunger_Tonio_: Sure, it shouldn't... but I *like* those tiny enhancements they put into 3.5beta:-)11:17
_Tonio_Tm_T: technically I don't need arts, except for skype...11:17
_Tonio_I use it whithin artsd to avoid oss problems11:18
Tm_T?11:18
hungerhmmm... artsd crashes at regular intervalls, too.11:18
Tm_Tyou can't use aoss?11:18
_Tonio_I like to hear several sounds at the same time ;)11:18
Tm_Theh11:18
_Tonio_I don't have a soundblaster or any card that performs hardware mixing11:18
Tm_T_Tonio_: me neither11:18
_Tonio_so when I use oss, I don't get any other sound11:19
Tm_T_Tonio_: but alsa can do it11:19
hunger_Tonio_: alsa does that for me...11:19
Tm_Tyou know, alsa-oss wrapper11:19
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_Tonio_yep11:19
_Tonio_but it never worked for me....11:19
hunger_Tonio_ Normally I wouln't run artts either... but it comes preinstalled and I was too lazy yet to turn it off:-)11:19
Tm_T_Tonio_: just force plud:dmix11:19
Tm_Tplug11:19
hunger_Tonio_ It does not use resources anyway since it crashes right after startup;-)11:20
_Tonio_Tm_T: where ?11:20
Tm_T_Tonio_: it depends11:20
Tm_T_Tonio_: google for "dmix howto gentoo"11:20
Tm_T:(11:20
_Tonio_Tm_T: well, I could do differently, but well artsdsp works correctly, no need to change ;)11:20
Tm_T_Tonio_: that can change any day...11:21
_Tonio_when arts will be removed from kde, skype will be alsa anyway, and obviously replaced by openwengo for me so ;11:21
Tm_T:p11:23
Tm_Tactually I have one problem using notifications without arts11:23
Tm_Tcan't control volume of notifications11:24
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hungerTm_T: Doesen't bother me... I have no sound anyway (mute button on a Thinkpad is very relieble).11:25
Tm_Thunger: well, I put some sounds yesterday just for curiosity :p11:25
hungerpitti: Well, -minimal kind of suggest that you shouldn't remove the stuff in there.11:25
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JReallee: ping12:58
alleeJRe: pong01:23
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Tm_Tha, I'm next generation!01:25
JReallee: you were tolding me some thing yesterday about shortcuts, right ?01:27
alleeerr, i asked about multimedia policy/plan but this was a general question.  checking logs...01:29
alleeJRe: I asked this on ubuntu-devel, too but maybe due to bad timing, I got infos there too01:31
JReallee: ok01:32
alleeI figured that in general the xkeyboard-config pkg or better the upstream BTS is the right address for the xkb settings I collected01:32
alleeBut in general there is still a need to 'assign' MM keys for unknown keycodes01:33
JReyes01:33
alleelineakd is fine but a gui is missing (it's out of date). keyconfig looks fine but uses glade.01:34
alleeah and lineak supports only per user config not a system wide one (AFAIU) :(01:35
JReallee: hum that's a bad point01:36
JReallee: a system wide config is definitively needed01:36
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pefhello01:53
alleehi pef01:53
alleeJRe: I assume that the code not so hard to adapt to search usr and sys dir is needed01:54
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JReallee: yes I think so too01:54
_Tonio_'afternoon pef 01:54
JRepef: cool the patch for kcheckgmail!01:54
alleeafk (today is the day of crazy #$%^$ printers :( )01:54
_Tonio_hi allee 01:54
alleehi _Tonio_ 01:55
pef_Tonio_: hello anthony, have you find the solution with klibido ?01:55
pefJRe: :) I'm happy to  found the fix01:56
_Tonio_pef: not at the moment....01:56
_Tonio_do you have the same problem than me with pbuilder or debuild ?01:56
JRe_Tonio_: what is the problem with klibido ?01:56
_Tonio_hum, it compiles correctly, but not within debuild or pbuilder....01:57
JRepef: tough, the program tell me that gmail version has changed 01:57
JRepef: but it works good 01:57
_Tonio_propted that a file is not found, while theile is present....01:57
_Tonio_I didn't have this problem with the version actually packaged in universe, but I have a problem to update the package because of that01:57
JRe_Tonio_: ow tonio I have two patch to give you for klibido01:58
pefJRe: when did you had this message ?01:58
JRepef: I patched and compiled it manually yesterday01:58
JRepef: and each startup the progrem show a dialog which tell: "Gmail version has changed. blablabla. (checkbox) don't show again"01:59
pefJRe: strange, I never had this message01:59
pefJRe: can you mail me the output of the program ? (without password of course ;)01:59
JRepef: you should contact both upstream and debian maintainer with such a patch ;)01:59
pefJRe: already done :)02:00
_Tonio_what are those packages for ?02:00
_Tonio_JRe: in fact I was thinking to wait for the next version to update, because dapper is planned in 6 month.... we have time :)02:00
_Tonio_JRe: what are those patches for excuse me ;)02:00
JRe_Tonio_: desktop file content and location02:01
JRe_Tonio_: i think we'll backport klibido02:01
_Tonio_JRe: desktop files yes.... when I packages it, I wasn't doing this, but I now patch every desktop file when I package ;)02:01
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tvoRiddell: ping03:31
Riddelltvo: hi03:31
tvohi Riddell, is #13096 the kpdf bug you reported to kpdf maintainer?03:32
tvo(related with http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114603)03:33
Riddelltvo: yes03:34
tvook, so it's a different bug03:34
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tvomind testing the pdf I attached to that bug report at bugs.kde.org?03:34
RiddellI don't see what it has to do with http://bugs.kde.org/114685 though03:34
Riddellubuntu one is about displaying fonts, other one about hanging03:35
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Riddellthe top pdf in the kde report didn't display for me03:37
Riddelland is hanging konqueror03:37
tvoin the ubuntu bugreport exactly same symptoms are described as in http://bugs.kde.org/114685:03:38
tvojust a big cross on each page and konqueror hangs with 100%cpu if you close the tab03:39
pefRiddell: hello Jonathan03:41
Riddellhi pef 03:41
tvoRiddell: sorry, wasn't clear about which pdf, I'm mostly interested in this pdf: http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=13038&action=view (belongs to http://bugs.kde.org/114603)03:43
pefRiddell: had you time to look at kcheckgmail on revu ?03:43
Riddellpef: nope, should I?03:45
pefRiddell: I wrote a patch to fix a problem which makes this program useless03:46
Riddelldidn't it just need a newer version of the program?03:47
pefRiddell: same issue with latest release03:48
pefand not corrected in the cvs03:48
pef(i'm uploading a new version to revu, problem with Standards-Version)03:48
pefRiddell: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=328515;msg=1503:50
Riddellpef: excellent, well done03:53
pef:)03:55
jjesseRiddell: did you make the merge in svn last nice for docs? i didn't get a chance as i was busy04:10
Lathiatpef: kcheckgmail?04:12
Lathiatpef: i saw you report, thats pretty cool04:12
pefLathiat: pretty cool apps :)04:13
Riddelljjesse: no not yet, I can do it in a few minutes04:19
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jjesseRiddell: problems w/ the download page for the US, the link to download are stll pointing to the release candiate iso06:49
jjesseRiddell: The requested URL /releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-rc-live-i386.iso was not found on this server.06:50
Riddelljjesse: URL?06:50
jjessehttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-rc-live-i386.iso06:50
jjessestart at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/ and try to download from there06:51
Riddellhttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/5.10/ shows an almost empty directory to me06:51
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jjessewas getting a question on it on #kubuntu, should i give them http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/5.10/ instead06:52
Riddelljjesse: please06:56
jjesseRiddell: will do06:56
RiddellI'll poke sysadmin06:57
Tm_Thmm, no hal fix to beta2?07:09
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RiddellI'll do decent 3.5 packages sometime soonish when dapper is open07:12
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shiv when I start my computer I get this black screen dhcpp3 login: prompt, then I turn it off and restart and I can get my gui back. HOw do I get rid of this black screen with the prompt09:21
jjessewhat is the difference between ubuntu-server that just came across the announcement list and when i type server at the kubuntu install?09:37
Riddelljjesse: ubuntu-server has some extra server bits, see the seeds for details10:08
jjesseRiddell:  thanks :)10:09
Riddellhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/ubuntu-server-breezy/server  quite a lot extra10:12
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JReanyone know a little about amaroK ?11:01
JReI can't find amarok_libvisual file11:04
JRe\sh: you know what happened to amarok_libvisual ?11:13
\shJRe: no...never heard about it11:13
\shI'm just listening to music..I'm not watching music ;)11:14
JRe\sh: amarok / src / vis / libvisual /11:14
JRe\sh: the makefile.am seems to rpduce a binary called amarok_libvisual11:14
\shJRe: 1.3.N where N >= 3 will come early11:14
JRe\sh: the strange things is that it was working 1 week ago11:15
\shJRe: is it in 1.3.1? or only in 1.3.3?11:15
JReit's in 1.3.111:15
JRei tested it one week ago (i have packaged libvisual) and it was working11:15
\shJRe: hmmm....I took the debian/* stuff from debian maintainer from alioth cvs I think...11:16
\shRiddell: did u replaced it with the new one from the orig debian package?11:16
JRe\sh:  okay I have checked and it's supposed to be in amarok 1.3.111:19
\shJRe: so lets push it in 1.3.311:20
JRe\sh: yes and good news, we'll have libvisual and libvisual plugins11:20
\shJRe: already in universe?11:21
JRe\sh: nop just packaged it11:21
\shhehe11:21
\shJRe: so when dapper opens after the syncs...please push it into universe11:21
\shargl11:21
\shno..we have to push it into main11:21
JRe\sh: yes it would be better11:21
JRe\since amarok is in main11:22
\shJRe: not better, it's a must if amarok depends on it11:22
JRe\sh: amarok can run without it11:22
\shJRe: so it is more then logical that amarok_libvisual is not shipped, or?11:23
JRe\sh: amarok_libvisual is expected to be produced by a regular compile11:24
\shJRe: yes..but runs it without libvisiual? if not, it was logical of the debian maintainer not to include it into the resulting packages...somehow...well..I don't know...I'll check 11:25
\shwith 1.3.311:25
JRe\sh: yes I think the maintainer has deactivated it11:26
JRe\sh: ok in any case tell me when you start to work on next amarok, we will try to integrate libvisual as best as we can in it11:28
\shJRe: please talk to riddell about main inclusion reports for dapper ;)11:28
JRe\sh: i'll soon give you the link to libvisual packages so you will able to test them11:29
JRe\sh: ok i'll talk with Riddell11:29
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\shJRe: rock (libvisual)11:29
JRe\sh: yes and moreover the plugins seems to be very nice, a way better than the one of xmms11:30
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