=== seth_k|lappy [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jansen [n=jan@ip219-169-58-81.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jansen [n=jan@ip219-169-58-81.adsl.versatel.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === spstarr_home [n=sh0n@CPEdeadbeef0000-CM000039d4cc6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:35] kmail: error while loading shared libraries: libkmime.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [03:35] ? [03:35] kmail broke in kubuntu beta 2? [03:36] 3.4.92-0ubuntu1 [03:36] missing dependency not picked up by apt [03:37] yup [03:37] looks like kdepim is sort of broken [03:37] oh the whole gpg stuff is broke [03:37] true [03:37] libgpgme++ not found ldd reports [03:37] kleopatra [03:38] there's always something wrong with the S/MIME stuff and such in kmail builds :( === spstarr_home watches nspluginviewer blow up repeatly (probably need to restart X so the old dsos are unloaded [04:00] spstarr_home: I have same problem with nspluginviewer [04:00] heh [04:01] spstarr_home: remove netscape folders from pluing scan [04:01] or what it is [04:01] more stable after that atleast here [04:01] did you restart Xorg after updating? [04:04] nope [04:05] uh, and stuff started workin here :o [04:05] flash and others :o [04:05] just tested [04:06] heh === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.199] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away [n=sh@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === spstarr_work_ [n=spstarr@192.219.104.10] has joined #kubuntu-devel === m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-9-177.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:18] hmh, has anyone seen hal fix? === m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-9-177.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F7869.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@70.85.216.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:18] <_Tonio_> hi all [10:19] hi [10:19] still no hal fix here [10:23] <_Tonio_> Tm_T: damn..... [10:23] <_Tonio_> you mean that you didn't found the updates ? [10:23] _Tonio_: I tried several mirrors [10:23] <_Tonio_> hum..........; [10:24] haven't seen it [10:24] <_Tonio_> Tm_T: did you simply try archive.ubuntulinux.org ? [10:24] arcive.ubuntu.com [10:24] h [10:24] and fi. se. fr. [10:24] <_Tonio_> Yesterday evening the update was available again.... [10:25] none is giving me any kde updates [10:25] <_Tonio_> don't know what happened in the sync but there has been a problem. [10:25] <_Tonio_> can you try de. [10:25] <_Tonio_> ? [10:25] <_Tonio_> it was also available on de. yesterday evening [10:25] I'll try [10:26] <_Tonio_> okay ;) [10:26] hmm, no? [10:26] <_Tonio_> anyway, I may send you the 43 deb files if needed.... I should have them in my cache [10:26] hmm [10:26] 43? [10:26] <_Tonio_> yep [10:26] 43?! [10:27] haven't seen yet even ten new packages after breezy release [10:27] well ok, beta2 [10:27] but other than that [10:28] <_Tonio_> well there has been 43 packages updated yesterday ;) [10:28] <_Tonio_> would you like a dcc ? [10:28] oh [10:28] no [10:28] no dcc, will go to server [10:28] wait... [10:29] <_Tonio_> I can put that on an ftp.... or simply wait for Riddell to understand what happened with those updates === Tm_Konversation [n=travolta@metsaalvejuuri.opaasi.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:29] to me please [10:29] <_Tonio_> with dcc so ? [10:29] yes [10:30] local irc client Tm_Konversation: you suck [10:31] yes I do === guinsel [n=guinsel@labpro06.act.uji.es] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:32] <_Tonio_> lol [10:32] <_Tonio_> sent [10:33] hmm, doesn't seem to work [10:33] ftp/sir is ok [10:33] <_Tonio_> router.... [10:33] <_Tonio_> yep i'll put that on my ftp wait.... [10:34] thanks [10:34] <_Tonio_> 7 minutes to upload, I'll give you the link just after that [10:36] ok [10:36] not hurry, I have to clean up my room [10:36] total mess [10:36] almost 3 weeks nothing but sitting in the corner leave some marks to room [10:40] but no sleep -> back is better [10:43] <_Tonio_> Tm_T: http://www.planetemu.net/temp/updates.tar.gz [10:43] huoh [10:43] and so, konqi tries to open that package [10:43] wget -> [10:44] <_Tonio_> or maybe just shift + click ;) [10:44] <_Tonio_> or kget [10:44] <_Tonio_> kget works fine :) [10:44] just shift+click in where? [10:45] I don't get the ui of Kget [10:45] <_Tonio_> forget..... that works with konqueror, but not in konversation ;) [10:45] I don't use Konvi [10:45] <_Tonio_> firefox ? [10:45] Konvi aka Konversation [10:46] <_Tonio_> ah okay [10:46] <_Tonio_> what do you use ? xchat ?? [10:46] no [10:46] nothing gui for irc please [10:46] <_Tonio_> telnet (^^) [10:47] irssi <3 [10:47] <_Tonio_> shell ??? really ? [10:47] yu [10:47] x2 [10:47] actually x3 [10:47] hmm, I'm not addicted [10:47] <_Tonio_> wow :) [10:47] <_Tonio_> I appreciate the shell but I have limits ;) [10:48] <_Tonio_> when I can do the same thing with a gui or with the shell I generally go with the gui [10:49] if I can do things more easily and powerfully with gui, I'll use gui [10:50] <_Tonio_> and you find cli irc easier that with a gui ? wat about tabs etc... ? [10:50] hmh, mplayer messed one of my Konsole tabs === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:53] _Tonio_: http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_070.png [10:53] sshfs <3 === hunger [n=hunger@p54A632B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:55] <_Tonio_> Tm_T: okay you are using konsole for tabs.... why not ;) [10:55] yes [10:56] <_Tonio_> Tm_T: what's this language ? polish ? [10:56] eeh [10:56] haista sin kuule paska [10:56] no need to insult [10:56] <_Tonio_> what ? [10:57] <_Tonio_> where did I insult ? no just to know, for my curiosity ;) Did I say something incorrect ? [10:57] call a finnish guy polish and you're dead [10:57] <_Tonio_> ah ;) sorry for this ;) I didn't knew ;) [10:57] np [10:57] <_Tonio_> so you are finnish? [10:57] oh yes [10:58] <_Tonio_> k [10:58] <_Tonio_> Tm_T: did you finally download the updates ? [10:58] _Tonio_: yup [10:59] I'll check them [10:59] hmm, just drop them to package cache ... [10:59] <_Tonio_> cool [11:03] hmh [11:04] no, didn't help [11:07] hmm [11:07] wtf [11:07] <_Tonio_> Tm_T: what's the problem installing the packages ? [11:07] ok :p [11:07] _Tonio_: downgrading etc [11:08] <_Tonio_> you have 3.5 beta2 actually ? [11:08] oh yes [11:08] <_Tonio_> ah..... that is indeed a bit more complicated :) [11:08] well, it's not a problem, I can do upgrade again [11:08] and reinstall my svn stuff etc [11:09] <_Tonio_> isn't that the reason why you where not seeing any updates maybe ? [11:10] propably yes [11:10] :( [11:10] and somebody got cleaned cache so need to download packages =) [11:13] kdesktop just crashed when inserting a usbdisk. Could this be hal-related? [11:14] :o [11:15] <_Tonio_> Tm_T: remember what you told me yesterday ;) I think I was right waiting for RC to update to 3.5 ;) [11:16] <_Tonio_> arts doesn't work according to what I heard, correct ? [11:16] yup [11:16] but who needs arts anyway [11:16] <_Tonio_> hunger: maybe..... but if you have a 3.4.3 version that shouldn't crash... === hunger wishes for a KDE that does not crash so often. [11:17] _Tonio_: ok, tell me, why you need arts? [11:17] _Tonio_: Sure, it shouldn't... but I *like* those tiny enhancements they put into 3.5beta:-) [11:17] <_Tonio_> Tm_T: technically I don't need arts, except for skype... [11:18] <_Tonio_> I use it whithin artsd to avoid oss problems [11:18] ? [11:18] hmmm... artsd crashes at regular intervalls, too. [11:18] you can't use aoss? [11:18] <_Tonio_> I like to hear several sounds at the same time ;) [11:18] heh [11:18] <_Tonio_> I don't have a soundblaster or any card that performs hardware mixing [11:18] _Tonio_: me neither [11:19] <_Tonio_> so when I use oss, I don't get any other sound [11:19] _Tonio_: but alsa can do it [11:19] _Tonio_: alsa does that for me... [11:19] you know, alsa-oss wrapper === CaiN_SA [n=cain@rrba-146-94-75.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:19] <_Tonio_> yep [11:19] <_Tonio_> but it never worked for me.... [11:19] _Tonio_ Normally I wouln't run artts either... but it comes preinstalled and I was too lazy yet to turn it off:-) [11:19] _Tonio_: just force plud:dmix [11:19] plug [11:20] _Tonio_ It does not use resources anyway since it crashes right after startup;-) [11:20] <_Tonio_> Tm_T: where ? [11:20] _Tonio_: it depends [11:20] _Tonio_: google for "dmix howto gentoo" [11:20] :( [11:20] <_Tonio_> Tm_T: well, I could do differently, but well artsdsp works correctly, no need to change ;) [11:21] _Tonio_: that can change any day... [11:21] <_Tonio_> when arts will be removed from kde, skype will be alsa anyway, and obviously replaced by openwengo for me so ; [11:23] :p [11:23] actually I have one problem using notifications without arts [11:24] can't control volume of notifications === _Tonio_ is dreaming of a sweet future where sound on linux isn't that horrible mess it is actually ;) [11:25] Tm_T: Doesen't bother me... I have no sound anyway (mute button on a Thinkpad is very relieble). [11:25] hunger: well, I put some sounds yesterday just for curiosity :p [11:25] pitti: Well, -minimal kind of suggest that you shouldn't remove the stuff in there. === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:58] allee: ping [01:23] JRe: pong === Tm_T appears as pacman [01:25] ha, I'm next generation! [01:27] allee: you were tolding me some thing yesterday about shortcuts, right ? [01:29] err, i asked about multimedia policy/plan but this was a general question. checking logs... [01:31] JRe: I asked this on ubuntu-devel, too but maybe due to bad timing, I got infos there too [01:32] allee: ok [01:32] I figured that in general the xkeyboard-config pkg or better the upstream BTS is the right address for the xkb settings I collected [01:33] But in general there is still a need to 'assign' MM keys for unknown keycodes [01:33] yes [01:34] lineakd is fine but a gui is missing (it's out of date). keyconfig looks fine but uses glade. [01:35] ah and lineak supports only per user config not a system wide one (AFAIU) :( [01:36] allee: hum that's a bad point [01:36] allee: a system wide config is definitively needed === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel === CaiN_SA [n=cain@rrba-146-94-75.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:53] hello [01:53] hi pef [01:54] JRe: I assume that the code not so hard to adapt to search usr and sys dir is needed === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:54] allee: yes I think so too [01:54] <_Tonio_> 'afternoon pef [01:54] pef: cool the patch for kcheckgmail! [01:54] afk (today is the day of crazy #$%^$ printers :( ) [01:54] <_Tonio_> hi allee [01:55] hi _Tonio_ [01:55] _Tonio_: hello anthony, have you find the solution with klibido ? [01:56] JRe: :) I'm happy to found the fix [01:56] <_Tonio_> pef: not at the moment.... [01:56] <_Tonio_> do you have the same problem than me with pbuilder or debuild ? [01:56] _Tonio_: what is the problem with klibido ? [01:57] <_Tonio_> hum, it compiles correctly, but not within debuild or pbuilder.... [01:57] pef: tough, the program tell me that gmail version has changed [01:57] pef: but it works good [01:57] <_Tonio_> propted that a file is not found, while theile is present.... [01:57] <_Tonio_> I didn't have this problem with the version actually packaged in universe, but I have a problem to update the package because of that [01:58] _Tonio_: ow tonio I have two patch to give you for klibido [01:58] JRe: when did you had this message ? [01:58] pef: I patched and compiled it manually yesterday [01:59] pef: and each startup the progrem show a dialog which tell: "Gmail version has changed. blablabla. (checkbox) don't show again" [01:59] JRe: strange, I never had this message [01:59] JRe: can you mail me the output of the program ? (without password of course ;) [01:59] pef: you should contact both upstream and debian maintainer with such a patch ;) [02:00] JRe: already done :) [02:00] <_Tonio_> what are those packages for ? [02:00] <_Tonio_> JRe: in fact I was thinking to wait for the next version to update, because dapper is planned in 6 month.... we have time :) [02:00] <_Tonio_> JRe: what are those patches for excuse me ;) [02:01] _Tonio_: desktop file content and location [02:01] _Tonio_: i think we'll backport klibido [02:01] <_Tonio_> JRe: desktop files yes.... when I packages it, I wasn't doing this, but I now patch every desktop file when I package ;) === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:31] Riddell: ping [03:31] tvo: hi [03:32] hi Riddell, is #13096 the kpdf bug you reported to kpdf maintainer? [03:33] (related with http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114603) [03:34] tvo: yes [03:34] ok, so it's a different bug === kkasina [n=ken@212.165.134.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:34] mind testing the pdf I attached to that bug report at bugs.kde.org? [03:34] I don't see what it has to do with http://bugs.kde.org/114685 though [03:35] ubuntu one is about displaying fonts, other one about hanging === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:37] the top pdf in the kde report didn't display for me [03:37] and is hanging konqueror [03:38] in the ubuntu bugreport exactly same symptoms are described as in http://bugs.kde.org/114685: [03:39] just a big cross on each page and konqueror hangs with 100%cpu if you close the tab [03:41] Riddell: hello Jonathan [03:41] hi pef [03:43] Riddell: sorry, wasn't clear about which pdf, I'm mostly interested in this pdf: http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=13038&action=view (belongs to http://bugs.kde.org/114603) [03:43] Riddell: had you time to look at kcheckgmail on revu ? [03:45] pef: nope, should I? [03:46] Riddell: I wrote a patch to fix a problem which makes this program useless [03:47] didn't it just need a newer version of the program? [03:48] Riddell: same issue with latest release [03:48] and not corrected in the cvs [03:48] (i'm uploading a new version to revu, problem with Standards-Version) [03:50] Riddell: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=328515;msg=15 [03:53] pef: excellent, well done [03:55] :) [04:10] Riddell: did you make the merge in svn last nice for docs? i didn't get a chance as i was busy [04:12] pef: kcheckgmail? [04:12] pef: i saw you report, thats pretty cool [04:13] Lathiat: pretty cool apps :) [04:19] jjesse: no not yet, I can do it in a few minutes === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D317A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-157-241-58.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [06:49] Riddell: problems w/ the download page for the US, the link to download are stll pointing to the release candiate iso [06:50] Riddell: The requested URL /releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-rc-live-i386.iso was not found on this server. [06:50] jjesse: URL? [06:50] http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-rc-live-i386.iso [06:51] start at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/ and try to download from there [06:51] http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/5.10/ shows an almost empty directory to me === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D317A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:52] was getting a question on it on #kubuntu, should i give them http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/5.10/ instead [06:56] jjesse: please [06:56] Riddell: will do [06:57] I'll poke sysadmin [07:09] hmm, no hal fix to beta2? === Riddell spots the word "beta" in there [07:12] I'll do decent 3.5 packages sometime soonish when dapper is open === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Drakeson [n=Drakeson@user62.vpn.utoronto.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-157-241-58.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shiv [n=shiv@c-24-60-104-155.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:21] when I start my computer I get this black screen dhcpp3 login: prompt, then I turn it off and restart and I can get my gui back. HOw do I get rid of this black screen with the prompt [09:37] what is the difference between ubuntu-server that just came across the announcement list and when i type server at the kubuntu install? [10:08] jjesse: ubuntu-server has some extra server bits, see the seeds for details [10:09] Riddell: thanks :) [10:12] http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/ubuntu-server-breezy/server quite a lot extra === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:01] anyone know a little about amaroK ? [11:04] I can't find amarok_libvisual file [11:13] \sh: you know what happened to amarok_libvisual ? [11:13] <\sh> JRe: no...never heard about it [11:14] <\sh> I'm just listening to music..I'm not watching music ;) [11:14] \sh: amarok / src / vis / libvisual / [11:14] \sh: the makefile.am seems to rpduce a binary called amarok_libvisual [11:14] <\sh> JRe: 1.3.N where N >= 3 will come early [11:15] \sh: the strange things is that it was working 1 week ago [11:15] <\sh> JRe: is it in 1.3.1? or only in 1.3.3? [11:15] it's in 1.3.1 [11:15] i tested it one week ago (i have packaged libvisual) and it was working [11:16] <\sh> JRe: hmmm....I took the debian/* stuff from debian maintainer from alioth cvs I think... [11:16] <\sh> Riddell: did u replaced it with the new one from the orig debian package? [11:19] \sh: okay I have checked and it's supposed to be in amarok 1.3.1 [11:20] <\sh> JRe: so lets push it in 1.3.3 [11:20] \sh: yes and good news, we'll have libvisual and libvisual plugins [11:21] <\sh> JRe: already in universe? [11:21] \sh: nop just packaged it [11:21] <\sh> hehe [11:21] <\sh> JRe: so when dapper opens after the syncs...please push it into universe [11:21] <\sh> argl [11:21] <\sh> no..we have to push it into main [11:21] \sh: yes it would be better [11:22] \since amarok is in main [11:22] <\sh> JRe: not better, it's a must if amarok depends on it [11:22] \sh: amarok can run without it [11:23] <\sh> JRe: so it is more then logical that amarok_libvisual is not shipped, or? [11:24] \sh: amarok_libvisual is expected to be produced by a regular compile [11:25] <\sh> JRe: yes..but runs it without libvisiual? if not, it was logical of the debian maintainer not to include it into the resulting packages...somehow...well..I don't know...I'll check [11:25] <\sh> with 1.3.3 [11:26] \sh: yes I think the maintainer has deactivated it [11:28] \sh: ok in any case tell me when you start to work on next amarok, we will try to integrate libvisual as best as we can in it [11:28] <\sh> JRe: please talk to riddell about main inclusion reports for dapper ;) [11:29] \sh: i'll soon give you the link to libvisual packages so you will able to test them [11:29] \sh: ok i'll talk with Riddell === spstarr_work_ is now known as spstarr_work [11:29] <\sh> JRe: rock (libvisual) [11:30] \sh: yes and moreover the plugins seems to be very nice, a way better than the one of xmms === RobertKnight [n=robert@exten-halls-243.soton.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel