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Burgundavia | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarksUbuntuBook | 03:35 |
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jsgotangco | hey all | 04:16 |
ajmitch | hi jsgotangco | 04:16 |
jsgotangco | forking? | 04:25 |
jsgotangco | sean on crack | 04:25 |
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jsgotangco | hello rob^lt | 08:12 |
rob^lt | hi jsgotangco | 08:12 |
rob^lt | intresting day on the mailing list :) | 08:13 |
jsgotangco | oh you always need a sean to stir up the natives heh | 08:14 |
rob^lt | heh yeah | 08:15 |
jsgotangco | jonathan has a valid point though, he's the only guy who was left during breezy | 08:16 |
jsgotangco | so i promised jonathan i would install kubuntu after release and do it again | 08:16 |
rob^lt | kubuntu wise yeah | 08:17 |
rob^lt | well, it will be an intresting meeting, hopefully sean will be there :) | 08:17 |
jsgotangco | im inrested to hear out on the other people as well who expressed great interest in reviving traffic | 08:18 |
rob^lt | yes me too | 08:18 |
jsgotangco | altough its not really a documentation thing, it was interesting to know that the idea sprang up as a doc issue | 08:18 |
rob^lt | well if its going to happen again most likely it will be by us | 08:19 |
jsgotangco | we'll see, when people have nothing to write, things like this happen :-) | 08:20 |
rob^lt | heh | 08:21 |
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Madpilot | hmmm... why do Stephan Hermann's blog posts always seem to re-appear on planet.u.c days after they first appeared? | 09:02 |
jsgotangco | oh jdub says its on \sh's rss not on planet itself | 09:04 |
robitaille | maybe he is playing with the setup of his blog server. just complain to him when he gets up; should be soon :) | 09:04 |
Madpilot | it's especially noticable because he usually does a bunch of posts at once, then the whole chunk reappears again... | 09:05 |
jsgotangco | Keybuk's blog entries are few and far in between but they sure are nice | 09:05 |
Madpilot | heh... Corey mentioned my Scribus stuff in his blog... lucky me ;) | 09:06 |
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rob^lt | it seems everyone but me has a blog these days | 09:07 |
rob^lt | I used to have one but got sick of the spam bots | 09:07 |
robitaille | just catching up on my blogs reading; it's nice to see that Mako keeps himself very busy these days with these talks on short notice; I wish I was closer to Boston... | 09:07 |
jsgotangco | you don't have to force youself on getting one :) | 09:07 |
rob^lt | heh yeah | 09:08 |
rob^lt | I kind of figured it was a bad idea for me anyway | 09:08 |
jsgotangco | but the blog tools now have some authentication for blog spammers | 09:10 |
rob^lt | hehe theres a new chicken toy that makes choking noises when you strangle it around the neck | 09:10 |
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jsgotangco | yeah | 09:11 |
jsgotangco | sometimes the spam is funny | 09:11 |
jsgotangco | "what a wonderful and insightful blog" | 09:11 |
rob^lt | I kept getting texas holdem poker bots | 09:11 |
jsgotangco | rob^lt, what's your take on sean's suggestion | 09:13 |
rob^lt | well I can see the benifits in what he is saying | 09:14 |
rob^lt | ubuntu docs sometimes overshadow kubuntu docs | 09:14 |
rob^lt | hmm my spelling sucks tonight | 09:14 |
jsgotangco | i don't like working in different svns | 09:15 |
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rob^lt | yes, I don't think that is a good idea though | 09:15 |
rob^lt | hence my suggestion of a new svn layout | 09:16 |
jsgotangco | a branch would probably be acceptable | 09:16 |
rob^lt | we could have /ubuntu and /kubuntu directories | 09:16 |
rob^lt | and share common things like licences in /common | 09:17 |
jsgotangco | yeah | 09:17 |
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rob^lt | having more then one svn is a stupid idea | 09:17 |
jsgotangco | well i think sean is concerned on granting svn rights | 09:18 |
rob^lt | jsgotangco, yeah but be careful its about a 200mb download due to all the upstream stuff thats in there | 09:18 |
rob^lt | (or in other words unorganised crap) | 09:18 |
jsgotangco | if the svn is elsewhere, he can easily add people on it | 09:18 |
rob^lt | maybe, but why should he have control of it? | 09:19 |
jsgotangco | yeah i was waiting for a jbailey cleanup but we'll know that this friday | 09:19 |
jsgotangco | oh he's pretty good at it actually he's more than capable to handle a team really | 09:19 |
rob^lt | although its hard to get new accounts with commit access, its probably a good thing as far as security and general wellbeing of svn is concerned | 09:20 |
jsgotangco | yes | 09:20 |
rob^lt | people can just send patches to the list, I think its a minor issue at the moment | 09:21 |
jsgotangco | the current svn is also pretty much limiting to him... | 09:21 |
jsgotangco | vendor drops, etc. | 09:21 |
rob^lt | I don't seem to have a problem with it, and I have used it more then him in the last few months at least | 09:22 |
jsgotangco | yes | 09:22 |
jsgotangco | we don't really use more than 15% of what svn can do | 09:22 |
jsgotangco | heh | 09:22 |
jsgotangco | our needs are simple and our focus should be content :) | 09:23 |
rob^lt | yep | 09:23 |
jsgotangco | technology and infrastructure are easy to discuss when we have content :) | 09:23 |
jsgotangco | i think we have a good base with the starter guide :) | 09:24 |
rob^lt | another reason why simply changing our directory structure is a better idea, nice and simple | 09:24 |
rob^lt | yeah :) | 09:24 |
rob^lt | despite a few bugs everyone I talk to loves it | 09:25 |
jsgotangco | yeah | 09:25 |
rob^lt | it will go off when we unleash help.ubuntu.com | 09:25 |
rob^lt | then people on IRC/wiki/forums can link to it | 09:25 |
rob^lt | oh, I remember there being a pretty good userguide on the xfce website, I was thinking about asking to use it as a base for xubuntu docs | 09:27 |
jsgotangco | have you seen the freebsd handbook | 09:27 |
jsgotangco | now thats a very good book | 09:27 |
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rob^lt | I've read a little of it | 09:27 |
rob^lt | I almost put freebsd on this laptop | 09:28 |
jsgotangco | heh | 09:28 |
jsgotangco | ok so i see myself doing kubuntu, improve the styleguide, an upstream doc and finish up on edubuntu | 09:29 |
jsgotangco | not bad | 09:29 |
jsgotangco | heh | 09:29 |
rob^lt | keeping yourself busy :) | 09:30 |
jsgotangco | oh the upstream doc is almost done, lots of time :) | 09:31 |
rob^lt | well I plan on improving the ubuntu faq guide, doing the kubuntu faq guide depending on what happens there and also starting work on a xubuntu doc, maybe the userguide I mentioned before | 09:31 |
jsgotangco | kubuntu has this nice app called katapult | 09:31 |
jsgotangco | you do an alt + space and a translucent box appears and you can type the app you want | 09:32 |
jsgotangco | have you checked the gnome user guide? | 09:32 |
rob^lt | like a terminal? | 09:32 |
jsgotangco | no its not a terminal | 09:32 |
rob^lt | yeah, ubuntu has a panel applet that does that | 09:32 |
rob^lt | or I should say gnome | 09:32 |
jsgotangco | yeah but katapult is uber cool :) | 09:33 |
rob^lt | heh | 09:34 |
Madpilot | anyone want to have a look at the THREE php5 install pages we've got cluttering up the wiki? (given that php5 is now installable via repo in Breezy...) | 09:35 |
rob^lt | gnome user guide? yeah I've thought about it | 09:36 |
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rob^lt | hmm, this could be bad: the faqguide on help.u.c doesn't have the licences attached | 09:54 |
rob^lt | due to using xinclude | 09:54 |
rob^lt | does anyone know if its using branch or trunk? | 09:55 |
Burgundavia | bloody hell | 10:02 |
jsgotangco | yes hell awaits | 10:03 |
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rob^ | yep | 10:03 |
Burgundavia | my bike just got stolen | 10:03 |
rob^ | that sucks | 10:04 |
rob^ | go run them over in your car :) | 10:04 |
Burgundavia | don't have one | 10:04 |
Burgundavia | the worst part is that it was off my friends porch | 10:04 |
jsgotangco | sucks | 10:04 |
jsgotangco | who's steal a bike? | 10:05 |
Burgundavia | it was a half decent one | 10:05 |
robitaille | victoria, city of bike crime. my wife lost a bike when it got stolen inside our house (it was inside the entrance lobby, and the door wasn't locked...). | 10:06 |
jsgotangco | i live in the carjacking capital of the philippines | 10:06 |
Madpilot | Burgundavia: you lost your bike? | 10:07 |
Burgundavia | Madpilot, yep | 10:07 |
Madpilot | crap | 10:07 |
Madpilot | Burgundavia: you reported it? (not that that'll do much good, but...) | 10:07 |
Burgundavia | I just got home, discovered it stolen less than 1/2 hour ago | 10:08 |
Madpilot | the cops are up all night too | 10:08 |
Burgundavia | ya, I will call in a sec | 10:08 |
Madpilot | did you loose your lights and stuff as well? | 10:09 |
Burgundavia | yes, that is crappy part | 10:09 |
Madpilot | that expensive headlight? | 10:09 |
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Burgundavia | because I was at John&Lindas, I didn't remove it | 10:09 |
Burgundavia | yep, the expensive one | 10:09 |
Madpilot | Burgundavia: well, at least you're employed now... | 10:10 |
Burgundavia | that is no consolation | 10:10 |
Madpilot | it means having income to replace the bike with, at least | 10:11 |
Burgundavia | yes | 10:13 |
Burgundavia | but having it stolen is a major downer | 10:13 |
Madpilot | yeah, that sucks | 10:13 |
Burgundavia | I am going to call bike stores tomorrow | 10:13 |
Burgundavia | I might get lucky | 10:14 |
Madpilot | I've been lucky, being downtown a lot, I've only lost a few lights and stuff | 10:14 |
rob^ | does yours or your friends insurance cover it? | 10:14 |
Burgundavia | rob^, there deductable is likely more than the bike is worth | 10:14 |
Burgundavia | s/there/their | 10:14 |
rob^ | ouch | 10:14 |
Burgundavia | well, replacement cost is about $700. Light system is about $100 | 10:15 |
Burgundavia | deductable is likely $500 | 10:15 |
rob^ | not that it helps, but I saw this kind on a pimped out bicycle today, it had fire painted on it and everything | 10:15 |
Madpilot | one minor consolation: end-of-model-year bike sales are probably starting soonish... | 10:15 |
rob^ | s/kind/kid | 10:15 |
Burgundavia | Madpilot, yes | 10:16 |
Madpilot | incredibly strange bike link: http://dclxvi.org/chunk/index.html | 10:17 |
rob^ | whatda? | 10:17 |
rob^ | people are weard | 10:18 |
rob^ | s/weard/weird | 10:18 |
Madpilot | those people are insane, which is different to weird... :) | 10:18 |
jsgotangco | lol | 10:19 |
jsgotangco | this is like a rock band | 10:19 |
jsgotangco | heheh | 10:19 |
jsgotangco | see even spidey bikes | 10:19 |
rob^ | any ideas on how to get help.u.c links from http://help.ubuntu.com/faqguide/C/ch03s02.html#jre to help.ubuntu.com/faqguide/jre ? | 10:20 |
Madpilot | my favourites, because they look so unridable: http://dclxvi.org/chunk/meet/long/index.html | 10:20 |
jsgotangco | Plopulator Son Of Chopulator. | 10:21 |
Madpilot | it is impossible to read this page through without laughing out loud: http://dclxvi.org/chunk/meet/multiwheel/index.html | 10:24 |
jsgotangco | Poppa Chop. | 10:26 |
jsgotangco | oh man | 10:26 |
jsgotangco | The Gynecological Station. | 10:26 |
jsgotangco | It took Vog the Smeltor several nights without sleep to craft the Dog, the juggernaut of battle wagons. | 10:27 |
Madpilot | The Dog of War | 10:27 |
Madpilot | with metal picnic tables for wheels | 10:27 |
jsgotangco | no brakes | 10:27 |
jsgotangco | heh | 10:27 |
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jsgotangco | This ride is all about comfort and convenience. Our bi/tri-cycle technology makes worrying about how far back that wheelie can be popped nothing but a sad memory. Moreover, it also nearly eliminates the need to steer. One need only point the helm towards one's objective, pop back, and relax. | 10:28 |
Burgundavia | Madpilot, lets go next year when I go to OSCON | 10:28 |
Madpilot | Burgundavia: sounds good, I'll loiter in Powell's and meet insane bike builers, and you can do geeky computer things | 10:29 |
Madpilot | ;) | 10:29 |
Madpilot | s/builers/builders | 10:29 |
Burgundavia | well, I just spoke to the cops | 10:39 |
Madpilot | hmm? | 10:39 |
Burgundavia | got a police file number | 10:39 |
Madpilot | well, that'll help w/ John's insurance, if they wind of filing, anyway | 10:40 |
Madpilot | *wind up, that is... bleh | 10:41 |
Burgundavia | ya, tomorrow morning comes the fun part, calling all the bike stores in town | 10:41 |
jsgotangco | weeee | 10:42 |
Madpilot | start with ChainChainChain - if they see it they'll call you - so will North Park, I think. | 10:43 |
Burgundavia | yes | 10:43 |
Madpilot | jsgotangco: the real fun part is the large number of bike stores in this city - it's popular here and we're well supplied with stores... | 10:44 |
Burgundavia | the most bicycles and most bicycle thefts per-capita in Canada | 10:45 |
Madpilot | lucky us | 10:45 |
Madpilot | ;) | 10:45 |
Madpilot | anyway, I need to get off the computer and crash out. Later, everyone. | 10:46 |
jsgotangco | night | 10:46 |
Burgundavia | night all, need to work tomorrow | 11:07 |
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WaterSevenUb | jbailey, if you need some input on http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18050 let me know... | 11:29 |
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rob^ | hi mdke | 11:58 |
rob^ | the licences are not showing up in the faq guide on help.u.c because of the xinclude | 11:59 |
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jbailey | WaterSevenUb: I probably will eventually. | 02:09 |
jbailey | WaterSevenUb: It's not on my immediate priority list. | 02:09 |
WaterSevenUb | jbailey, ok :) It woud be great if could be solved through breezy-updates. | 02:10 |
jbailey | Yeah. I don't know if an upload for this will be approved or not. Probably, I guess | 02:10 |
WaterSevenUb | Sometimes is worse to see the translation in Brazilian than in pure English for some Portuguese people that are not familiar with Portuguese Brazilian terms... so I hope so. | 02:11 |
WaterSevenUb | anyway, thx. | 02:12 |
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jsgotangco | jbailey: awake? | 02:24 |
jbailey | jsgotangco: Maybe. =) | 02:25 |
jbailey | How's it going? | 02:25 |
jsgotangco | not much interesting thread on the list on the trunk structure what's your take? | 02:26 |
jbailey | Haven't caught up on it yet. | 02:26 |
jsgotangco | oh | 02:26 |
jsgotangco | well its the time of the year where all of a sudden people who didn't write that much suddenly appear after a release and make suggestions so | 02:27 |
jbailey | Right. | 02:27 |
jbailey | And you think it's worth reading these? =) | 02:27 |
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jsgotangco | sure | 02:28 |
jsgotangco | well i was expecting your reply at least since you said a while back you already have an idea how trunk be structured.... | 02:28 |
Kamping_Kaiser | hi ppl | 02:29 |
jbailey | jsgotangco: Yeah. | 02:29 |
jbailey | I'll dive in there a bit later today. | 02:29 |
jsgotangco | Kamping_Kaiser: hi | 02:29 |
Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 02:29 |
jbailey | I had some catchup stuff to do on the support side the past couple days. | 02:29 |
jsgotangco | ahhh | 02:31 |
jjesse | morning | 02:40 |
jjesse | jbailey: its not worth reading all of it | 02:40 |
jjesse | i think we should make the structure changes that were suggested early in the discussion | 02:41 |
jsgotangco | morning jjesse | 02:43 |
jsgotangco | lol | 02:43 |
jsgotangco | jjesse: where did kgpg go? | 02:43 |
jjesse | morning jsgotangco | 02:47 |
jjesse | don't know i think there is a bug w/ it ? | 02:48 |
jjesse | i remember some discussion on kubuntu-devel the other day | 02:48 |
jjesse | Riddell: can you confirm? | 02:48 |
Riddell | kgpg is in universe where its always been | 02:49 |
Riddell | kmail was compiled without gpg support which has been fixed in -updates | 02:49 |
jsgotangco | hrmmmm | 02:50 |
jsgotangco | i thought kgpg was in main in hoary... | 02:50 |
jsgotangco | oh well i'm beginning to like what im seeing now though... | 02:50 |
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jsgotangco | hey mgalvin | 03:07 |
mgalvin | hey jsgotangco | 03:08 |
mgalvin | hows it going | 03:08 |
jsgotangco | not bad interesting discussion on the list and you? | 03:09 |
mgalvin | can't complain, been busy with life, finally getting some of my free time back, hopefully I can start contributing again | 03:10 |
Kamping_Kaiser | im not sure what i think about the split bit :| im trying to make up my mind | 03:11 |
jjesse | don't want to split want to change the directory structure | 03:13 |
Kamping_Kaiser | i asumed that this was for ubuntu and there was a kubuntu-doc as well, as i have seen a kubuntu and ubuntu irc chans, so i asumed it went the whole way through | 03:15 |
jsgotangco | it shouldn't be that way for docs, kubuntu writers and ubuntu writers can examine code | 03:16 |
jsgotangco | the only reason why sean would like to fork and move to another server is that it would be easier to add more svn accounts... | 03:17 |
jsgotangco | that's the most obvious | 03:17 |
jjesse | like i said in one of the emails, he seems to come out only when he wants to change everything to his way and then leaves when it doesn't go his way | 03:18 |
jsgotangco | plus the fact that our current svn is quite dated, some svn/docbook voodoo ain't possible | 03:18 |
Kamping_Kaiser | ok. so is the problem with the layout? or the server having support for a limited number of users? | 03:18 |
Kamping_Kaiser | or other?\ | 03:19 |
jsgotangco | Kamping_Kaiser: the layout isn't a -problem, it can be easily structured accordingly | 03:19 |
jjesse | limited access to who can create users and give access | 03:19 |
jsgotangco | another svn won't answer that | 03:19 |
jsgotangco | a distrbuted revision system will | 03:20 |
Kamping_Kaiser | right, im new to the concepts regarding how doco is done (more or less), so to me its all as good as any other bit | 03:21 |
Kamping_Kaiser | my experiance with doco is 'i write it, tehy use it, get feed back, change it, forget it' | 03:22 |
jsgotangco | Kamping_Kaiser: yes in my opinion infrastructure talk only hampers.... | 03:22 |
jsgotangco | we've got an established system let's improve on it | 03:22 |
jjesse | jsgotangco: i totatlly agee | 03:30 |
jjesse | agree | 03:30 |
jjesse | everyone always wants to change things drastically post release | 03:30 |
jjesse | it happened post-hoary and now the discussion has started post-breezy | 03:30 |
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jgotangco | bleahhh | 03:40 |
jgotangco | wtf my dsl died suddenly | 03:40 |
Kamping_Kaiser | :( wb | 03:41 |
jgotangco | where was i | 03:42 |
jgotangco | oh yes | 03:42 |
Kamping_Kaiser | 'improve on it' ;) | 03:42 |
jgotangco | right ok so... | 03:42 |
jgotangco | the structure isn't the problem | 03:42 |
jgotangco | the problem is people committing to write somethign then disappear midway | 03:42 |
jgotangco | even if its a volunteer project at least saying "hey sorry, i can't continue, can someone continue my work, here's what i planned, good luck" sort of thing... | 03:43 |
jgotangco | but nooooo | 03:43 |
Kamping_Kaiser | :( oh, those sort of issues | 03:44 |
Kamping_Kaiser | how much of the doc is in that position? | 03:44 |
jgotangco | well at the moment, the trunk is full of useless stuff | 03:45 |
jgotangco | that needs obvious cleanup | 03:45 |
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jgotangco | it got filled up because of upstream crap we have no use at the moment | 03:46 |
jgotangco | its 200MB! | 03:46 |
Kamping_Kaiser | svn? yeh, i know :| | 03:46 |
Kamping_Kaiser | i downloaded it twice :S | 03:46 |
jgotangco | it shouldnt be like that | 03:47 |
Kamping_Kaiser | i downloaded it, then i did something so i had to get it again ( i forget the details) | 03:47 |
jgotangco | docbook is pretty simple really... | 03:47 |
Kamping_Kaiser | *fears* | 03:47 |
jgotangco | i don't understand the fuss on the contributor barrier... | 03:48 |
jjesse | it really is, you can follow what other people have done and then build the doc to see if it works | 03:48 |
jgotangco | OOo 2 can do docbook, let the docteam clean up just in case.... | 03:48 |
jgotangco | but people who contribute in anyform is welcome | 03:49 |
Kamping_Kaiser | im going to learn docbook, because i despise wysiwyg editing, but its still quite a mountain (learning docbook, then offering patches) | 03:49 |
jgotangco | the toolchains for gnome and kde are a bit different on the presentation layer, but it shouldn't be an issue really... | 03:50 |
jjesse | Kamping_Kaiser: i just use kate as my editor to change the docs | 03:53 |
jjesse | plus you can download the full version of the orilley guide that was written for docbook | 03:53 |
jjesse | instead of forking over money for the book | 03:53 |
Kamping_Kaiser | im going to end up using vim or gedit myself (depending where i am relative to computer), but an orilley sounds like a good idea | 03:54 |
jgotangco | Kamping_Kaiser: use Bluefish if youre in gnome, it has docbook functionality | 03:54 |
Kamping_Kaiser | if i want to play with stuff, should i do that on my svn repo? or make a file somewhere else and do it there? | 03:55 |
jjesse | Kamping_Kaiser: http://www.docbook.org/tdg5/en/ | 03:56 |
Kamping_Kaiser | thanks jjesse | 03:56 |
jjesse | np | 03:56 |
jgotangco | Kamping_Kaiser: well you can play around with your working copy actually...you still don't have commit access yet so you won't mess up the svn trunk... | 03:56 |
jgotangco | if it doesn't work with you, you can always revert to the lastest from the server... | 03:57 |
Kamping_Kaiser | and another question (sorry, i have plenty for another time ), should i officaly join the docteam? | 03:57 |
jgotangco | Kamping_Kaiser: if its interesting enough for you, sure we need all the help we can get... | 03:58 |
jgotangco | submit a patch and stuff we'll eventually get you an svn account for sure | 03:59 |
Kamping_Kaiser | im not aiming at svn, its more a 'if i have to' atm ;) | 03:59 |
jgotangco | Kamping_Kaiser: feel free to participate, we're an open group..eventually when you get the feel of it and it interests you, it'll be much easier to make the decision :) | 04:00 |
Kamping_Kaiser | :) it intrests me, its getting the hang of docbook+svn that will take time. but ill print out a bit of reading material+save a copy and se ehow i go | 04:01 |
jgotangco | once we create specs for docs in a few weeks you'll have a clearer view on what you want to do... | 04:02 |
jgotangco | as for now, assume its in flux | 04:03 |
jgotangco | we have a good base doc atm so its natural to build upon it | 04:04 |
Kamping_Kaiser | nice, im still putting off fileing a heap of bugs on the (ubuntu)faq, because its going to flood rob :( but ill do it later i suppose | 04:04 |
jgotangco | Kamping_Kaiser: sure flood bugzilla whenever possible | 04:04 |
jgotangco | we can't spot stuff by ourselves | 04:04 |
Kamping_Kaiser | ok. over the next few days your going to get hit by a wave from bugzilla :( | 04:05 |
jgotangco | fun :) | 04:05 |
Kamping_Kaiser | yeh.... | 04:06 |
jgotangco | Kamping_Kaiser: don't limit yourself to Ubuntu/Kubuntu docs... | 04:06 |
jgotangco | if you see errors in other documentation you see in Yelp for example, file it too | 04:06 |
jgotangco | so we can tag it to upstream just in case | 04:06 |
Kamping_Kaiser | ok. i thought id be a bit systematic, so i have a ton of bugs against the faq. when i do them, ill look elseware ;) | 04:06 |
Kamping_Kaiser | ill only be trying to offer doc for ubuntu (and maybe edubuntu) as i dont have any kubuntu paackages/machines | 04:07 |
jgotangco | no problem | 04:08 |
jgotangco | i'm going to fill up with kubuntu for dapper... | 04:08 |
Kamping_Kaiser | cool. if i find i have time (i have to get a real job soon, so time might get scarse, ill see) i will see about what i can do there, but it would only be reading for bugs in doc, not adding more | 04:09 |
jjesse | me as well | 04:09 |
jjesse | Kamping_Kaiser: if you find any bugs in the kubuntu docs in svn feel free to change them (typos, grammer problems, etc) | 04:10 |
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Kamping_Kaiser | why didnt that time out and reconnect :( oh well | 04:26 |
jgotangco | ok good night going to sleep early | 04:37 |
Kamping_Kaiser | night | 04:38 |
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Riddell | what's the subversion URL for checking out? | 06:04 |
Riddell | the non-annonymous one | 06:05 |
jjesse | you mean this? https://docteam.ubuntu.com | 06:13 |
jjesse | svn checkout https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | 06:14 |
Riddell | jjesse: that's non anonymous? | 06:44 |
Riddell | it doesn't ask for my password | 06:44 |
jjesse | Riddell: i guess i don't know the difference | 06:45 |
jjesse | when i try and commit the first time it asked for my password, and then it hasn't since | 06:45 |
Riddell | clever | 06:45 |
jjesse | is there a .svn or something that it saves in? | 06:46 |
jjesse | Riddell: your commit worked btw saw it come across the commit mailing list | 07:42 |
Riddell | cool, I'll merge stuff in, sorry for the delay | 07:44 |
jjesse | Riddell: no worries i'm really busy at work today so i haven't gotten a chance to do more then just chat here | 07:44 |
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mdke | evenin | 09:52 |
mdke | Madpilot, around? | 09:53 |
Madpilot | hi mdke | 09:54 |
mdke | ah cool | 09:54 |
mdke | Madpilot, any thoughts on DraftWikiGuide? | 09:55 |
Madpilot | mdke: looks pretty good - there should be a link to HelpOnEditing, though | 09:56 |
mdke | well that is linked from HelpContents | 09:57 |
mdke | but please add anything you think | 09:57 |
mdke | i was hoping you would! | 09:57 |
Madpilot | ah, so it is. | 09:57 |
Madpilot | I'm going to add the piece of code that UserDocumentation uses to float the ToC over to the right under the Useful Tricks category, then | 09:58 |
mdke | okie dokie | 09:59 |
mdke | feel free to add guidelines | 09:59 |
mdke | i'm conscious the page hasn't had enough edits yet | 09:59 |
Madpilot | mdke: made a couple of edits and additions to DraftWikiGuide | 10:09 |
Madpilot | one problem is that "Editing This Wiki" is currently at the very bottom of the FrontPage; I'm inclined to move it right back up near the top, to right below the UserDocumentation section | 10:11 |
Madpilot | thoughts? | 10:11 |
jjesse | where did we leave this madnessa that was occuring on the mailing list in regards to kubuntu-docs? | 10:14 |
Riddell | jjesse: kubuntu-docs should be merged now | 10:15 |
jjesse | Riddell: thanks | 10:15 |
mdke | Madpilot, lemme look | 10:18 |
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mdke | Madpilot, i think i would disagree actually | 10:24 |
mdke | hmm | 10:24 |
mdke | maybe | 10:24 |
Madpilot | mdke: having "Editing This Wiki" right below "Searching This Wiki" and "Using This Wiki" made some sense to me, anyway | 10:25 |
mdke | yeah fair enough | 10:25 |
mdke | the important thing is that people can see the relevant section in UserDocumentation about how to contribute | 10:25 |
mdke | Madpilot, so do you think DraftWikiGuide is ready for general release and linking around the wiki? | 10:26 |
Madpilot | mdke: pretty much, yes | 10:27 |
mdke | ok i'll rename it to WikiGuide | 10:27 |
Madpilot | I guess we should move it first | 10:28 |
mdke | done | 10:30 |
mdke | geez the wiki is so slow nowadays | 10:31 |
mdke | fingers crossed for the hardware upgrade | 10:31 |
Madpilot | editing the FrontPage now | 10:33 |
mdke | cool | 10:35 |
mdke | (gone) | 10:35 |
Madpilot | later, all - work... | 10:43 |
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