[06:19] <fabbione> BenC: i am now
[10:21] <chmj> has anyone else cloned ubuntu-2.6.git from kernel.org 
[10:21] <chmj> I get these errors.. 
[10:21] <chmj> error: cannot map sha1 file c931488cc4619eecfe68a2f046b5898fddc2f904
[10:21] <chmj> fatal: failed to unpack tree object HEAD
[10:22] <fabbione> chmj: did you execute exactly the same command as in /topic?
[10:44] <chmj> yes
[06:26] <BOFH80> anyone using a kyro based graphics with 2.6?
[07:52] <\sh> fabbione / benc: do u have time at 20 UTC for motu meeting to discuss the first topic on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting ?
[07:56] <BenC> \sh: I do
[07:56] <\sh> BenC: great :) 
[07:57] <\sh> BenC: thx :) 
[07:58] <BenC> that's two hours, right?
[08:00] <\sh> BenC: yepp
[08:26] <fabbione> Hey BenC 
[08:26] <fabbione> \sh: no sorry, i can't make it at 20 UTC
[08:27] <\sh> fabbione: k..it's enough I think when benc attends and help us to answer some questions ;)
[08:31] <fabbione> \sh: what's this idea of kernels in universe?
[08:31] <\sh> fabbione: a nightmare...someone raised this possibility...and I'm totally against it...and that's why we have to discuss it..
[08:32] <fabbione> ok, idea to do what?
[08:32] <\sh> fabbione: pushing some special kernels into universe, e.g. with low latency for musician etc.
[08:34] <fabbione> oh not that shit again
[08:34] <\sh> fabbione: as I said..a nightmare...
[08:37] <zul> ditto
[08:39] <\sh> well...that's why I wanted to have at least on of you kernel pros attending the meeting...to explain why it's a bad idea
[08:40] <fabbione> \sh: code duplication in universe, difficult to do security support on kernels that receive such a high amount of intrusive patches, unreliable/unknown code pushed in, too many flavours will and already do confuse the user
[08:41] <fabbione> we are clearly not going to build these kernels from main
[08:41] <fabbione> also
[08:41] <\sh> fabbione: i will quote you :) 
[08:41] <fabbione> a kernel in universe must be explicity installed
[08:41] <fabbione> because it will never be part of the default install
[08:41] <fabbione> \sh: also quote that this topic has come up several times
[08:42] <fabbione> if MOTU wants such a set of kerenls they are welcome to do it, maintain it and take care of all the bugs
[08:42] <BenC> sorry for the stupidity factor, but what does MOTU stand for?
[08:42] <fabbione> Master Of The Universes
[08:42] <\sh> Masters of the Universe 
[08:42] <fabbione> the guys that take care of universe
[08:43] <BenC> like he-man, she-ra and all them? :)
[08:43] <\sh> BenC: exactly ;)
[08:44] <\sh> BenC: all the good heros from our childhood ,-)
[08:44] <\sh> *oops* brb...need to grab my clothes out of the washing machine...:(
[08:45] <fabbione> HE-MAN !
[08:45] <fabbione> i loved that cartoon :)
[09:18] <zul> she-ra was better ;)
[09:49] <fabbione> i guess i am going to be here for the meeting
[09:49] <fabbione> my wife just crashed in bed
[09:50] <\sh> fabbione: oh 
[10:31] <jbailey> Heya Karl
[10:37] <dilinger> half breast, half chest?
[10:38] <fabbione> dilinger: eheh yeah itaglish
[10:38] <dilinger> :)
[10:53] <zul> later