[12:03] ajmitch: and also continue my work on introdeveloper docs [12:04] ajmitch: alas, i wont be able to attend UBZ due to work (probs getting leave,etc.) but ill do general motu stuff :) [12:04] speaking of which, who do i need to see to get approved into UbuntuMembers on launchpad? I've applied almost a week back. [12:05] Unfrgiven: email a CC member, saying when you were approved at a CC meeting [12:08] ajmitch: ok thanks. [12:08] ajmitch: you going to UBZ? [12:08] yeah [12:09] once I get everything sorted :) [12:09] awesome... sounds like its going to be great [12:09] hopefully :) [12:11] ive been trying to do a rough usability review of ubuntu lately. just from a newbie-type perspective. while Breezy rocks, I found a few things lacking [12:12] hi Unfrgiven! [12:12] for one, you can't easily play mp3s from a Samba share (without manually mounting it). this is in Rhythmbox and also Amarok. [12:12] hey whiprush === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] hi aj [12:12] we should stick those intro docs on the fridge! ;) [12:13] whiprush: hey dude! how are you? nice pics from the Gnome summit :) [12:13] hey! [12:13] yeah, the summit rocked [12:13] ajmitch: yeah good idea. i'll do that in the next day or so - i did a bit more clean up on the docs [12:15] whiprush: what was the focus of the summit? [12:16] performance [12:16] mostly. I mean, people just show up to hack. But it seems like everyone was big on performance and memory usage [12:20] hi whiprush [12:22] hi tseng [12:30] I got a debdiff to fix #3252, should I change it's status? [12:31] to pendingupload? [12:32] ajmitch: is that alright? [12:32] that is what I would think [12:32] I guess so [12:33] I regularly look at the list of pendingupload bugs [12:33] well, I didn't know if accepted would be more appropriate since I'm not a MOTU or anything [12:35] since the debdiff needs to be sponsored to actually be uploaded [12:35] set it as accepted if you wish, then :) [12:35] as long as someone will set it & upload to dapper [12:36] well, pending upload is fine as long as a MOTU is going to look at it [12:43] LaserJock: why did you need to add a dpatch build-dep? [12:44] for some reason it was in debian/control but not debian/control.in [12:44] right === Treenaks [n=martijn@tunnel986.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] is there a way to look at your subscribed bugs from your launchpad homepage? === Treenaks [n=martijn@tunnel986.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nyblioth [n=nybble@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/nybble] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089FF29.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@15.238.7.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb_ [n=chris@209.120.232.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] gn8 all === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-067-026.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [i=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@p5487FBE4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.209.110] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] Heya gang [03:15] good day sir [03:16] Whassup? [03:16] at work [03:17] Joy === bur[n] er [n=burner@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Treenaks [n=martijn@tunnel986.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] Farking hell [03:30] I busted my glasses [03:31] mine are running on superglue until next week [03:31] lol [03:31] Masking tape [03:32] so I have the classic busted glasses look ;P [03:32] thing is I'm up at school... [03:33] I'm debating running to the hardware store and buying some epoxy... [03:33] I had my glasses hold up by masking tape for almost two months :-) [03:34] my problem was a broken frame though [03:36] my frame broke right where the top of the right wire connects to the middle === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:46] Mine snapped right where the bridge (Thing connecting the two halfs) connects to the oval part holding hte lenses [03:46] guy down the hall is trying to soder them back together [03:48] bbl [03:48] Kyral: good luck === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089CF04.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:03] howdy ogra === wickedpuppy [n=wickedpu@cm25.epsilon165.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:03] schweeb_! [04:03] long time no see [04:04] indeed [04:04] busy busy busy [04:04] ready for some motu action? [04:04] quite [04:04] wonderful [04:05] how's things on the motu front... haven't really been keeping track [04:06] fairly hectic [04:06] just been apt-get upgrading breezy all these months [04:06] managed to get breezy out [04:07] been busy making my millions myself :) [04:07] so we're gearing up for dapper work now [04:08] I've been busy scraping out a meagre living :) [04:08] got my contract extended another 6 months, so I'll be gainfully employed a bit longer [04:09] congrats [04:09] I'm curious to see what the focus of dapper will be [04:09] breezy is great, everything works on my laptop... some nice work by mjg59 [04:09] Kyral: You still here? [04:09] short or no MoM run [04:10] mostly polish and bug fixes [04:10] except for KDE, GNOME, X, and etc [04:11] Amaranth: that's under discussion [04:12] we've still got a fairly long list of features [04:12] sabdfl says we will sync [04:12] that will be discussed & developed [04:12] tseng! [04:12] sabdfl is.. sabdfl [04:12] schweeb_: dud [04:12] e [04:12] ajmitch: it's pretty much decided that there will either be no automatic merging or that UVF will be in 4 or so weeks [04:12] tseng: Hey, do you know if jaldhar is close too? Maybe we could try to get him together too? [04:13] I think he's in Jersey [04:13] Amaranth: not decided, from what I can tell :) [04:13] you guys all goin to UBZ? [04:13] Jersey City to be precise [04:13] bddebian: who? [04:13] jaldhar: :-) [04:13] meh [04:13] UVF will be earlier, but I'm thinking 4 weeks is *short* [04:13] bddebian, in and out [04:13] if he wants to come here, great [04:13] im not going to jersey [04:13] i wish i could come [04:13] but i am 1) broke and 2) in school [04:13] schweeb_: I'll be there [04:13] tseng: so where is here exactly? [04:13] Kyral: Did you look at mgp.spec? prefix=/usr/X11R6 [04:14] UVF? [04:14] bddebian, nopre [04:14] evening jaldhar [04:14] tseng: Afraid of Jersey are you? ;-P [04:14] schweeb_: upstream version freeze [04:14] hello ajmitch [04:14] oh, yes [04:14] I'll fix it after my glasses are fixed mkay? [04:14] jaldhar: we are both a bit otuside philly, in different directions [04:14] i think a nice middle is KOP [04:14] ajmitch: I planned on being there, but as it is, I think I'm on call those weeks [04:15] Amaranth: 4 weeks would give maybe 1 week of dev time after UBZ for new upstream merging === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] I may convince jorge to make a road trip out there or something for 2 days [04:15] bddebian, did you already upload the fix [04:15] not sure if he's going at all [04:16] Kyral: upload where? :) [04:18] bddebian: jersey is scary, sure [04:19] Kyral: No, that doesn't totally fix it yet [04:19] bddebian, ah [04:19] xmkmf pukes with some weird stuff [04:19] tseng: Isn't that just Camden? ;-P [04:19] well I'll leave it with you. You know more about xmkmf than I do ;P [04:20] Kyral: No, I don't know shit about it quite honestly [04:20] Score! A guy down the hall fixed my glasses with soder and superglue! [04:20] solder [04:20] I think === Kyral shrugs [04:20] brb.. [04:21] Kyral: Ask ajmitch, he knows EVERYTHING :-) === ajmitch looks for a /kick [04:22] damn its bedtime already === ajmitch wishes he could go off to sleep [04:23] i set up my canonical laptop for real work now [04:23] we'll see how long that lasts before i have to install dapper of the day [04:23] 'real work'? [04:23] my real work for it will have to be dapper crack [04:23] all my packages and configs [04:23] vs... [04:23] firefox [04:24] with extra things that I break on top [04:24] which is about the only usable thing for me ootb [04:24] I set up my laptop up for real work... vpnc and all [04:24] Amaranth has a cool new smeg version [04:24] he wants testers [04:24] someone volunteer [04:24] :) [04:25] wtf is smeg [04:25] simple menu editor for gnome [04:25] the menu editor in breezy [04:25] ah [04:25] A fungus I believe :-) [04:25] yeah it means something nasty in europe [04:25] or something [04:25] ajmitch: Are dapper repos open? [04:25] bddebian: nope. [04:26] it can be short for smegma or a swear word from red dwarf [04:26] they were meant to open today [04:26] sounded suspiciously close to smit from AIX [04:26] but 'unexpected features' got in the way, I suspect [04:26] sigh, aix is a swear word [04:26] meh, I like it more than Solaris [04:26] http://dev.realistanew.com/alacarte-0.8beta2.tar.gz [04:26] i changed the name [04:26] by a long shot [04:27] Amaranth: great [04:27] extract it and run alacarte-0.8/src/alacarte [04:27] nice! [04:27] smeg wasn't terribly professional, as funny as it might seem [04:27] the setup.py is broken right now [04:27] just a tarball? no bzr repository or similar? :) [04:27] yes, alacarte smacks of professionalism [04:27] ha [04:27] tseng: a lot more than smeg [04:28] ok im sleeping [04:28] bye [04:28] i was using gnome cvs but since my dialup is windows only i just do it all locally now [04:28] good night [04:28] it beats smeg-ng [04:28] night tseng [04:28] nite tea-seng [04:28] har har miguel [04:28] just call him whorehay [04:29] Gnight tseng [04:30] I should probably sleep soon too... stupid early meetings === blueyed_ [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] booyah [04:38] guy fixed my glasses === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=blackbir@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Am|NickTaken [i=travis@AC99B2EC.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] bed time === shadoi_ [n=shadoi@129.219.152.116] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shadoi_ is now known as shadoi === phlaegel [n=phlaegel@atdot.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [i=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh_away [n=sh@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed_ [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-10-153-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089D33B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch needs to get away from that #ubuntu timesink [05:53] ajmitch, and look how many ppl are thare thay neet to be split to smaller groups of ppl [05:53] of maby 50 -60 [05:54] not 200+ [05:55] zenrox: yes, and good luck achieving that [05:55] true [05:55] well-meaning people who give bad info are annoying :) [05:55] but the idea has bine around a long time [05:56] ajmitch: first, I need you to add the marillat repository [05:56] ajmitch: then, install autopackage [05:56] put ppl in every channel and a bot with info [05:56] whiprush: omg ok [05:56] now what? [05:56] plz add dapper-backports [05:56] grab a package from debian experimental & install? [05:56] nm, I'll just make a script for you, you just run it. [05:57] k [05:57] you want to vnc? [05:57] tehe [05:57] ./EasyAJ === TiMiDo [n=deb@unaffiliated/timido] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:06] Heh. Gnight gang. === Amaranth [i=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === leetcharmer [n=ch4rm@pool-71-240-168-246.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Treenaks [n=martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-247-41-252.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [i=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-90-162.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === alexr [n=shura@adsl-71-134-237-73.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:26] Hi! Is this the right place to ask advice on modifying the Breezy install CD? === alexr [n=shura@adsl-71-134-237-73.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] does reportbug work with launchpad? === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B085D.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:06] hey, how are you? [08:07] hi dholbach [08:07] Sepheebear: no, it doesn't [08:07] hey andrew [08:07] ah ok, i thought there was a config somewhere [08:07] reportbug was written for debian & is just another package we inherited [08:08] but it does work with bugzilla [08:08] heard of any plans for a ubuntu tool like reportbug? [08:09] ajmitch: but it is a nice package, it actually grabs the deps as well :) [08:09] Sepheebear: they are talking about xml rpc for malone, which will make stuff like that possible [08:10] hrm, sounds interesting [08:10] Sepheebear: from experience, reportbug didn't send bugs to bugzilla [08:10] it didnt? [08:11] no, it didn't and there's still an open bugreport about that [08:11] Sepheebear: when i first switched to Ubuntu from Debian, I ran reportbug when I found bugs - they never appeared [08:11] it wouldn't be hard to write a reportbug replacement [08:11] for at least most of the functionality that people will use [08:12] report bug + query bugs what else is there for the typical user? [08:14] i love bug# 10315 [08:18] dapper opens today no? [08:19] when launchpad is ready for it [08:19] which was meant to be yesterday :) === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] bugs in dapper/main will be in launchpad too? [08:22] quite probably, although that's not certain yet [08:24] that'd be cool, my only real gripe with launchpad is that it isnt brown, but bugzilla forget it [08:26] I'd say a bigger problem with launchpad is that it is not intuitive to search for existing bugs [08:29] well, that and it's blue. bleh! === Tifa [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve [n=hcauweli@itaapy-255-90.cnt.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:59] morning === herzi [n=herzi@d060166.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:00] night folks === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-096-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:00] hi herve [09:01] am I late for the coffee? [09:03] no, not really, still have here :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:32] <\sh> moins [09:32] ? [09:33] hello \sh === chris_ [n=chris@ACB5ED78.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:35] \sh: your blog broke again === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:35] its puking a lot lately [09:36] (is it reshuffling GUIDs? Is it restamping timestamps?) === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tifa [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [09:50] <\sh> Treenaks: nothing...I didn't even touch the blog [09:50] <\sh> Treenaks: it's planet [09:50] <\sh> Treenaks: i didn't even touch my server [09:51] <\sh> Treenaks: the problem is known anyways...and planet seems to be broken somehow... [09:51] Treenaks, yeah and jdub says its not planet so stalemate :) [09:52] <\sh> jsgotangco: every planet implementation has problems with it :( but I'll think about changing to pybloxom if it has the features of s9y [09:52] you guys don't have a problem with the tab key in xchat? [09:52] herve, no === \sh doesn't use xchat === jsgotangco just tabbed your nick === ajmitch hasn't used xchat for months [09:53] \sh: jdub claims the problem is your blog [09:53] \sh, what happened to kgpg in kubuntu? [09:53] herve: there are a couple of different tab completion settings [09:54] yes but nothing for setting the key === rob__ [n=rob@dsl-202-52-55-156.qld.veridas.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:03] \sh: does planet ubuntu get your Atom 1, Atom 0.3 or RSS feed? [10:04] yoohoo! I can't access the Zope 2.8.3 page with the security fix. [10:11] morning guys [10:11] hello [10:12] hey Mortas, hey herve :) === _Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:18] <_Tonio_> morning everyone [10:18] hi _Tonio_ === zakame [n=zakame@210.213.77.97] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:20] herve: you want to be in the pkg-zope team on launchpad? [10:20] morning [10:21] morning siretart [10:21] huhu ajmitch! :) [10:21] <\sh> Treenaks: rss2 feed [10:21] say, did I miss something important in the meeting yesterday? [10:21] <\sh> siretart: stefan is motu now [10:22] siretart: yes [10:22] \sh: w00t! [10:22] siretart: and mjg59 gave an interview :) === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0237.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart was not feeling well yesterday.. couldn't attend.. [10:22] siretart: we're depending on you to have good ideas for REVU2 at UBZ [10:22] because we said that you'll be there to talk about it in a BOF :) [10:22] siretart: are you better now? === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:23] ajmitch: I have a lot of good ideas for revu2, and will implement some in near future ;) === ajmitch is feeling better now, after a beer ;) [10:23] siretart: great :) [10:23] ajmitch, it would just be somewhat symbolic, I'm afraid I can't take commitments [10:23] siretart: is the BOF on the wiki? [10:23] herve: that's ok [10:23] hey siretart [10:23] it just means you'll get the bugs that are assigned to it :) [10:23] \sh: ask him to switch to Atom, it might work better? [10:23] \sh: or something? [10:23] dholbach: yes! [10:23] brb (afk) [10:24] either that or I set the debian pkg-zope mailing list as the team contact address [10:24] siretart: that's all that counts :) [10:24] which might be a good idea [10:24] siretart, could you make me reviewer on REVU? === dholbach hugs herve === ajmitch will have to talk to madduck & others about that [10:24] ok [10:25] <\sh> Treenaks: is atom giving the full article, like rss2? [10:25] hey ivoks [10:25] scim/uim brakes couple of apps [10:25] we should fix that asap [10:25] doko: if you're around.. https://launchpad.net/people/pkg-zope [10:25] herve: hi [10:25] \sh: it's your blog/feed... :) [10:25] herve: what's up? [10:25] <\sh> Treenaks: as I said as well to jdub, it would be nice, to have an error log or trace log, what's happening when planet fetches the rss2 feed [10:25] \sh: you can install a planet on your own local machine and try.. [10:26] nice launchpad, I have links to edit a page but to learn I don't have permission [10:26] heh [10:26] sorry, always whining :-) [10:26] typical launchpad ;) [10:26] ivoks, vacation in Paris [10:27] herve: :) === Pazzo [n=thomas@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pazzo_old [n=Pazzo@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu ["bye"] [10:30] wow, bug day tomorrow! =) [10:34] herve: sure, give me a sec === siretart at work [10:34] it said to send an encrypted mail but I needed the REVU public key [10:37] herve: can you already login to revu? [10:37] yes, my email is hcauwelier@oursours.net [10:37] great. mom [10:38] herve: no, it's herve@ubuntu.com :) [10:38] herve: you should be reviewer now [10:38] yay [10:38] :) [10:39] thanks siretart [10:39] I'd prefer hcauwelier@ubuntu.com [10:39] otherwise people won't believe it's me :-) [10:40] herve: maybe it's that :) [10:40] herve: ;) - I think revu2 should really work on launchpad logins === koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:41] herve: 550 : [10:41] yes, an unified directory is not a bad idea [10:41] ivoks, yes I don't have any [10:42] ajmitch: I don't have a BoF for revu2 yet on the wiki, because there will be probably several BoFs for revu, because I want to solve several problems [10:42] ok [10:42] we need to get BOFs registered ASAP for scheduling [10:42] ajmitch: will work on it today or tomorrow, depending on how things go here at work [10:42] great :) [10:43] ajmitch: oooh. ok, I will then definitly do that tonight. at any cost. no problem [10:43] hmm [10:43] ubz :) [10:43] sabdfl is disagreeing with our policy of -0ubuntu1 for new packages [10:43] have a good time guys :) [10:43] <\sh> ajmitch: where? [10:43] #u-devel [10:44] he made the change on DeveloperResources this morning [10:44] well, if he has a better idea... [10:44] heh [10:44] "in sabdfl we trust" [10:44] jsgotangco: I still feel free to disagree with him ;) === ajmitch is sure he'd hate to be surrounded by 'yes men' when working on ubuntu [10:46] I like the idea of easily knowing which packages are not yet in ubuntu [10:46] <\sh> bah [10:46] <\sh> bsht [10:46] heh [10:46] \sh: what are your thoughts on it? [10:48] <\sh> ajmitch: I say bullseggs === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:56] mm === ajmitch opened up a nice can of worms here ;) [10:57] I thought worms are found in the ground :-) [10:57] heh === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B0EAC.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CaiN_SA [n=cain@rrba-146-94-75.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:29] is dapper open yet? [11:29] :) [11:29] no [11:29] go back to sleep :P [11:29] ok [11:30] ;) [11:30] can we do bugfixes already? I read some stuff on motuwannabe, and I felt it applied to me [11:30] :) [11:31] we won't prevent you but you can't upload! [11:31] upload fixes to revu then? [11:32] sure [11:32] what is the normal process for these things then? I'm not motu, but I can upload to revu, say I fix a package with unmet deps do I upload it to revu? or just put it on the wiki? [11:32] yeah, or if you fix a bug, attach a debdiff to the bug [11:32] and one of the motu will review it and upload for you [11:33] unless it has changed since I left :-) [11:33] I think we'll be using revu less for changes to packages, and more for reviewing new packages [11:33] ok [11:33] especially if we have transitions & file them as malone bugs [11:34] so, I find a package with that magic command on UniverseUnmetDeps [11:34] I fix it, and make a bug in malone, attachine the debdiff [11:34] ? [11:34] well, universeunmetdeps should get cleaned up now that breezy is released, and we can do syncs again [11:34] (once dapper opens, real soon now) :) [11:35] so, I do nothing... ? :) [11:35] yeah [11:35] ajmitch: yeah [11:35] TMM: no [11:35] the packages that were left on UniverseUnmetDeps were quite broken :) [11:35] :) [11:35] opening a bug just for uploading may be cubersome when you have a motu under your hand [11:35] dholbach_: we'll talk about this use of malone at the MOTU meeting :) [11:35] there is still a bunch of packages shown with that magic command [11:36] herve: but opening a bug when the wiki page would be created is useful [11:36] fine, I'll have to wait a bit then [11:36] :'( [11:36] I prefer bugs to maintaining a wiki page anyway [11:36] I'll NEVER be motu at this rate ;) [11:36] but not opening a bug just for asking an upload [11:36] I *hateses* the wiki for those sorts of tasks :) [11:36] if the bug already exists, ok [11:37] decent bug searches are essential for replacing the wiki though [11:37] TMM: there is always bug triage, really :) [11:37] ow yeah, and who is this man we are supposed to make happy? [11:37] http://gplan.info/blog/mvo.png [11:37] :) [11:37] mvo! [11:37] I thought malone was ready :-) [11:37] we really need to make this man happy : http://people.ubuntu.com/~jdub/2005/face-of-motu.png [11:38] itou :-) [11:38] ajmitch, he looks pretty happy already [11:38] he's a happy guy by nature, but fixing stuff makes him extra-happy [11:38] and we want him to be as happy as possible [11:38]