[12:00] <rempresent> TiMiDo: tim?
[12:00] <Mrl33t> yea about that... im confused about how to install them
[12:00] <osku_> Look : http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/427/capture7za.png
[12:00] <WebLOCH> shutdownrunner, I didnt set anything in xorg.conf manually, any suggestions?
[12:00] <Mrl33t> i have w32codecs.deb
[12:00] <osku_> it is almost awful
[12:00] <Mrl33t> but i dont know how to install the codecs
[12:00] <Sarkie> Mrl33t: Synaptics, search
[12:00] <shutdownrunner> WebLOCH: pastebin content of your xorg.conf
[12:01] <thoreauputic> Mrl33t: if you have your repos enabled, install gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 in rhythmbox
[12:01] <thoreauputic> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:01] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[12:01] <Mrl33t> thoreauputic: how can i tell
[12:01] <WinZ> have anybody used mc-light in Ubuntu?
[12:02] <thoreauputic> !tell Mrl33t about repos
[12:02] <Sarkie> macdonalds, light?
[12:02] <WebLOCH> shutdownrunner, coming right up
[12:02] <thoreauputic> Mrl33t: check your pm messages
[12:02] <Moo-Crumpus> how to fetch information which package owns a file? aptitude something?
[12:02] <WinZ> midnight commander light
[12:02] <thoreauputic> Moo-Crumpus: if it's insatalled, do  dpkg -S </path/to/file>
[12:02] <duro> ??
[12:03] <duro> dkl,k{mfsdsglk{adlkfksdal{fdsaf
[12:03] <thoreauputic> Moo-Crumpus: note the capital S
[12:03] <duro> sdasfklds{kaflkd{klsfakldfslkdfalkda{{lkfdklf{
[12:03] <duro> lka}fk{dsaklflkl{kfsdak{laskl{dsf{lkdsaf{lkfsad
[12:03] <duro> jajaja!!
[12:03] <Sarkie> duro, english?
[12:03] <duro> nop
[12:03] <WebLOCH> shutdownrunner, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/398026
[12:03] <duro> espaol!
[12:03] <Sarkie> Please speak in English
[12:03] <samue1> anyone here get out of the box 5.1 sound with breezy?
[12:03] <duro> naaaa
[12:03] <crimsun> samue1: using what app?
[12:03] <duro> i dont like
[12:03] <crimsun> thoreauputic: +q
[12:03] <samue1> xmms and xine
[12:03] <selinium> Just finished the update to breezy, rebooting! :)
[12:03] <crimsun> thanks.
[12:04] <Mrl33t> i found a whole bunch of gstreamer0.8
[12:04] <Mrl33t> different endings though
[12:04] <Sarkie> look for one with Ubuntu
[12:04] <crimsun> samue1: you can change the audio output in XMMS's ALSA output preferences
[12:04] <DACRepair> is there a way to change the refresh rate in server ubuntu?
[12:04] <samue1> crumsun i tried that and it just left me with no sound
[12:04] <LasseL> I am trying to burn a data cd from nautilus, it asks me if I want to drop windows compatability because of some long file names ... is there som clever way I can get the files renamed or anything else I can do to make it readable from windows XP ?
[12:04] <Bachus9000> Is there a way to adjust the horizontal positioning of the X display from within Ubuntu?  Everything is perfectly centered in Windows and SUSE, but Ubuntu's picture is a tad too far right.  I can always use the monitor's controls, but then I'd be changing it every time I booted to a different OS.
[12:05] <samue1> bachus there is a howto on that in the forums
[12:05] <funkyHat> Bachus9000, sounds like you don't have accelerated graphics drivers installed
[12:05] <Mrl33t> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3311
[12:05] <crimsun> samue1: did you remember to unmute and increase the Surround, LFE, etc. mixer elements?
[12:05] <Sarkie> LasseL: Joilet, compatible? just rename so its not 128(chars i think) long
[12:05] <Mrl33t> will you PM me with what you think
[12:05] <samue1> crimsun yup enabled them all
[12:05] <DACRepair> in commandline linux, is there a way  to change the refresh rate?
[12:05] <LasseL> Sarkie, on 200 files?
[12:05] <Mrl33t> i have to go eat and by the time i get back i wont be able to find this part of the conversation again ;)
[12:05] <thoreauputic> Bachus9000: I find adjusting the monitor in Ubuntu doesn't affect settings on my other boots
[12:06] <Sarkie> LasseL: batch rename?
[12:06] <thoreauputic> Bachus9000: I even use different resolutions and positionings
[12:06] <Sarkie> look for folders
[12:06] <samue1> DACRepair i made a howto on adjusting refresh rates over 60 in the forum
[12:06] <shutdownrunner> WebLOCH: it's strange, because you're loading glx module
[12:06] <crimsun> samue1: you can't enable ALL of them
[12:06] <Bachus9000> funkyHat: It's true that that is the case.  Strange that that would affect it, though. :)
[12:06] <crimsun> samue1: some need to stay muted
[12:06] <LasseL> Sarkie, how?
[12:06] <Sarkie> man rename
[12:07] <WebLOCH> shutdownrunner, well thats what i thought...
[12:07] <Bachus9000> thoreauputic: That isn't the case here, sadly, although I've only tried the same resolution in each OS.
[12:07] <WebLOCH> shutdownrunner, is there any way to default to the driver that X was using before i installed the Nvidia drivers?
[12:07] <samue1> crimsun i mean i played about with each but only get base speaker and front 2 working
[12:07] <thoreauputic> Bachus9000: ah - well as they say, your mileage may vary
[12:07] <LasseL> this sucks
[12:08] <shutdownrunner> WebLOCH: I don't have much experience with nv. I have ati card
[12:08] <smgil> Hi
[12:08] <aleksander> its not that difficult shutdownrunner ;)
[12:08] <IG0R> how can i see ma hdds free space?
[12:08] <WebLOCH> shutdownrunner, no probs, thanks for listening tho
[12:08] <Bachus9000> Is there an "official" way to enable 3d acceloration in Ubuntu or is it as simple as changing 'nv' to 'nvidia' in xorg.conf?  I've had Suse change settings on me in the past when doing things like that. :)
[12:08] <smgil> anybody knows where I can find how to configure a wpa wireless in ubuntu ?
[12:08] <MaTaKs> how to enable javascript?
[12:09] <LasseL> MaTaKs, if you didn't disable it, it is enabled
[12:09] <mustard5> ubotu: tell MaTaKs about javadeb
[12:09] <MaTaKs> im in a site that has javascript and i need to fill in.. it says need to enable javascript which is my java is already enable
[12:10] <shutdownrunner> WebLOCH: try to find it on google. just type in the message you get and browse through all the possible discussion bards
[12:10] <WebLOCH> shutdownrunner, i have another question..
[12:10] <shutdownrunner> WebLOCH: yes?
[12:10] <crimsun> samue1: and which virtual device were you using?
[12:10] <WebLOCH> shutdownrunner, ive been attempting to playback some xvid files, now i can get them to play in totem okay and mplayer
[12:11] <erisco> how do i get support for real media player?
[12:11] <crimsun> samue1: paste the output from ''cat /proc/asound/devices'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:11] <WebLOCH> shutdownrunner, but neither will let me go full screen without some funny graphical glitches, any ideas on what that could be?
[12:11] <erisco> or at least how can i get support for more movie formats?
[12:11] <erisco> totem doesn't have too much
[12:11] <samue1> crumsun ok will do
[12:11] <bdfg> Hi, can anyone tell me what package I need to install in order to access te section 3 of the man pages?
[12:11] <mustard5> ubotu: tell erisco about w32codecs
[12:12] <crimsun> bdfg: manpages-dev
[12:12] <patrick__> ello
[12:12] <GSnet|Jon> so archive.ubuntu.com is down for packages i take it?
[12:13] <shutdownrunner> WebLOCH: well totem has been really shitty recently. I don't know about mplayer. just try using various video drivers. are you using mplayer -zoom? or sth else?
[12:13] <patrick__> i have a question
[12:13] <bdfg> thx
[12:13] <samue1> crimsun done
[12:13] <patrick__> kind of irrevent to this channel in some sese but here goes
[12:14] <WebLOCH> shutdownrunner, no i was just setting the view to fullscreen in totem and in mplayer, the problem seems to be identical in each so i assume its not their fault
[12:14] <patrick__> I installed ubuntu 5.10 and I installed BMP, but I got all my music on my windows partition, I already mounted it and everything but i wanna add the entire directory and all the songs in subdirectories to my playlisy
[12:14] <patrick__> how would I do this?
[12:14] <WebLOCH> shutdownrunner, I also noticed that after installing everything i needed for totem it was rubbish, so i installed totem-xine which apparently cleared up the problems i did have
[12:14] <funkyHat> how can i reset my samba and SMB configuration? it's really messed up and i don't even have the windows networks section in system > administration > networking
[12:15] <thenuke> My friend complains that he gets no screens found error with 5.10 and X700 PCI-E
[12:15] <shutdownrunner> WebLOCH: well totem-xine is much faster. the only solution I can think of at the moment is to wait for gstreamer 0.10
[12:15] <patrick__> ?
[12:15] <LasseL> WebLOCH, try VLC and gxine as well
[12:15] <WebLOCH> shutdownrunner, thanks then i guess ill have to resort to windows for watching movies :P
[12:15] <patrick__> n/m
[12:15] <patrick__> figure it out :P
[12:15] <WebLOCH> LasseL, I tried VLC, its a slight improvement but theres still issues
[12:16] <LasseL> WebLOCH, are you sure it is not your video driver?
[12:16] <WebLOCH> LasseL, I think it is, but havent been able to find any way to fix the driver
[12:16] <shutdownrunner> WebLOCH; sorry i wasn't helpful about your nv card;-)
[12:16] <WebLOCH> LasseL, well fix the "driver problem"
[12:16] <LasseL> WebLOCH, which one are you using?
[12:16] <gimmulf_> I have swedish characters in all programs + gnome terminal but not in Eterm, what could i do to fix this?
[12:16] <WebLOCH> shutdownrunner, all assistance is helpful
[12:16] <WebLOCH> LasseL, GeFOrce 5200 PCI
[12:17] <WebLOCH> LasseL, PCI not PCI-E just to clarify
[12:17] <LasseL> WebLOCH, did you try both the nv and the nvidia drivers?
[12:17] <WebLOCH> i dont know the difference
[12:17] <qos> hey guys ... i am searching an secure ftp server WITH an nice GUI ... ?
[12:17] <samue1> movie playback is the only thing keeping xp on my 10gb xp partition atm because i dont get sound in xvid :o(
[12:17] <WebLOCH> one of the first things i did after install, was install the nvidia-glx package and set config to enabled
[12:17] <selinium> I have just updated to Breezy by CD! But my repos still have hoary refs... Is this normal?
[12:18] <WebLOCH> LasseL, I dont know the diff between nv and nvidia, nor do i know how to change between them
[12:18] <samue1> selinium yeah i heard others saying the same
[12:18] <selinium> k
[12:18] <samue1> just change where it says horay to breezy and comment out the backports
[12:18] <LasseL> WebLOCH, grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:18] <WebLOCH> driver nv
[12:18] <selinium> samue1, Are you running Breezy? Can i see your sources.list?
[12:19] <patrick__> btw, new release rocks
[12:19] <patrick__> will help me produce php more quickly
[12:19] <samue1> sure
[12:19] <WebLOCH> LasseL,  driver "nv"
[12:19] <patrick__> lol new cms arround the corner ;)
[12:19] <LasseL> WebLOCH, find then go research on how to get the nvidea drivers to work
[12:19] <selinium> patrick__, I am a php dev as well!
[12:19] <LasseL> !nvidia
[12:19] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:19] <WebLOCH> LasseL, okay, before i go off and do that, do you have any experience with Gnome-vlc ?
[12:20] <WebLOCH> LasseL, I used that guide to insatll them under hoary and again in breezy, failed this time
[12:20] <selinium> samue1, Stick it up on the pastebin :)
[12:20] <LasseL> WebLOCH, I think I used to, in hoary vlc looked much better than it does now
[12:20] <marcin_ant> hi gurus
[12:20] <marcin_ant> I need to mount vfat partition
[12:20] <WebLOCH> LasseL, well i installed the gnome-vlc package, but it doesnt appear to have had any effect nor do i know where it installed it to or how to execute it... any suggestions?
[12:20] <marcin_ant> and I need to set permissions to have -rwx------
[12:20] <LasseL> WebLOCH, try the drivers again, should give you much better performance
[12:21] <shutdownrunner> aleksander:siedzisz tam jeszcze?
[12:21] <samue1> selinium done
[12:21] <selinium> CHeers!
[12:21] <samue1> np
[12:21] <marcin_ant> I think that I should use umask=0077
[12:21] <Ekibyougami> WebLOCH, passing vlc to the run menu or terminal should run it
[12:21] <aleksander> tak
[12:21] <aleksander> jestem tu i czytam
[12:21] <marcin_ant> but I'm not sure - could someone tell me if am I wrong or not?
[12:21] <shutdownrunner> a co czytasz? rozne glupoty:D
[12:21] <aleksander> ciekawe problemy
[12:21] <marcin_ant> oho widz e 'polonia' tu rzdzi ;)
[12:21] <LasseL> WebLOCH, I just right click on movie files in nautilus and select open with ...
[12:21] <WebLOCH> Ekibyougami, it runs vlc but not gnome-vlc
[12:22] <shutdownrunner> witaj marcin
[12:22] <Ekibyougami> ahh
[12:22] <marcin_ant> shutdownrunner: hello
[12:22] <WebLOCH> LasseL, hmm i guess it hasnt installed correctly then
[12:22] <shutdownrunner> daruj sobie polskie znaki,bo cos nie dzialaja:D
[12:22] <Ekibyougami> is it the gtk vlc?
[12:22] <cafuego_> !pl
[12:22] <ubotu> cafuego_: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:22] <LasseL> WebLOCH, same for me, I get an ugly X11 interface too in breezy
[12:22] <WebLOCH> LasseL, ahhh
[12:22] <aleksander> musz si jacku niestety z tob zgodzic
[12:22] <marcin_ant> shutdownrunner: ok sorry to bylo tak z rozpedu - a przy oazji - mi dzialaja...
[12:22] <WebLOCH> LasseL, Same here, that makes some sense then
[12:22] <LasseL> WebLOCH, it works all the same it seems
[12:22] <Ekibyougami> try wxvlc
[12:22] <aleksander> mi tez dzialaja
[12:23] <shutdownrunner> marcin_ant: no to znaczy, e cos pokrecilem jak ustawialem x-chata:|
[12:23] <WebLOCH> Ekibyougami, still brings up the ugly VLC
[12:23] <Ekibyougami> odd
[12:23] <marcin_ant> aleksander: ale zdaje sie ze jakas ircokieta czy netykieta cos mowi na ten temat wiec moze jednak lepiej bez pliterek
[12:23] <marcin_ant> aleksander: i tak dla pozostalych piszemy po chinsku wiec ;)
[12:23] <aleksander> ok
[12:24] <aleksander> to moj pierwszy raz
[12:24] <WebLOCH> brb
[12:24] <marcin_ant> shutdownrunner: przerzuc sie na erc - plierki dzialaja znakomicie
[12:24] <shutdownrunner> nigdy nie wiadomo pod jakim nickiem czaja sie Polacy;-)
[12:24] <marcin_ant> shutdownrunner: oni sa wszedzie ;)
[12:24] <marcin_ant> anyway could comeone help me with this umask stuff?
[12:24] <Jowi> hi all. successfully upgraded to breezy. I've discovered an annoyment though. bold and coloured text in terminal window is almost unreadable. anyone got a cure?
[12:25] <shutdownrunner> marcin_ant;a co chcesz wiedziec o umask?
[12:25] <marcin_ant> is umask=0077 -> -rwx------ ?
[12:25] <Ekibyougami> marcin_ant, have you tried umask=000?
[12:26] <LasseL> don't you guys have a #ubuntu-pl channel yet?
[12:26] <marcin_ant> Ekibyougami: with umask=000 i got permisions set to something like 777 rwxrwxrwx
[12:26] <selinium> samue1, Cheers! Another 304 updates to do now! :)
[12:26] <shutdownrunner> marcin_ant: umask=000 will give you full privileges
[12:26] <marcin_ant> LasseL: we want you to learn something new ;)
[12:26] <samue1> selinium :o) np
[12:26] <atomicplb> I just installed ubuntu, but i don't seem to have a root account or at least not the password for it..?
[12:26] <samue1> Jowi in the terminal window, edit, current profile>colours
[12:26] <marcin_ant> shutdownrunner: and I don't want full priviledges - I need permissions only for owner
[12:26] <LasseL> marcin_ant, if I want to learn something new I'll go to #ubuntu-pl and pay attention :p
[12:27] <shutdownrunner> Lassel: it's always a pleasure to meet someone from our country:D
[12:27] <worthawholebean> How can I install Xvfb in Breezy?
[12:27] <Jowi> samue1: i am not using gnome-terminal.
[12:27] <samue1> Jowi ahh i dunno then sorry
[12:27] <shutdownrunner> macin: so you should read more about uid
[12:27] <aleksander> atomicplb: your first user has root privileges through sudo
[12:28] <marcin_ant> LasseL: come on Polish is pretty easy and really nice language - btw if you know ubuntu you already had to learn some african language ;) so... african/polish every day something new ;)
[12:28] <shutdownrunner> marcin: I don't remember exactly, but umask is based on privileges and uid has more to do with owner and groups
[12:28] <gimmulf_> someone know how to get swedish characters to work in Eterm?
[12:28] <marcin_ant> shutdownrunner: hmm then I'll have an access to files only by root - right?
[12:29] <LasseL> marcin_ant, I tried to learn czech once, that was pretty damn hard and I doubt that polish is much easier :)
[12:29] <marcin_ant> shutdownrunner: anyway I thought that umask=0077 will give me what I need
[12:29] <Ekibyougami> have you tried it?
[12:29] <marcin_ant> shutdownrunner: but I need to be 100% sure because I need to apply this on remote machine
[12:29] <WebLOCH> shutdownrunner, LasseL, I cant remember which of you told me to use that binary guide to  install drivers again, but either way, it doesnt appear to have worked again
[12:30] <LasseL> anyone here have an ipod shuffle?
[12:30] <Bachus9000> I'm trying to setup wpa_supplicant on my laptop (prism54 chipset).  'wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D prism54 fails to connect.  It says "trying to associate with <correct MAC address> ... and errors out with "Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out"
[12:30] <samue1> ipod mini here
[12:30] <LasseL> WebLOCH, go to the forums, search for your error, figure it out
[12:30] <Sabelotodo> does anybody know a person named hawk?
[12:30] <marcin_ant> is there somewhere good umask documentation?
[12:31] <florian_> hello i french?
[12:31] <shutdownrunner> marcin_ant: I mean, I've never used it, but try to google for uid and ldap
[12:31] <Jowi> florian_: /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:31] <LasseL> samue1, did you update it to the latest firmware from windows/mac ?
[12:31] <florian_> thanks
[12:31] <worthawholebean> How can I install an X module by itself, from source in Breezy?
[12:31] <samue1> LasseL if the latest is within the last month yeah, not looked for about a month
[12:32] <linuxamoeba21> hi there
[12:32] <LasseL> samue1, I havn't been able to read/write to my shuffle for the past couple of months. Seems like apple "upgraded" the datebase format
[12:32] <zoexii> hello, I have a problem instalaling any sort of working media player, synaptic gives me an error: "depends: libcairo1(>=0.6.0) but it is not installable"  I don't know what to do about this,
[12:32] <shutdownrunner> zoexii: try to install libcairo. if it doesn't work then try to install its dependencies
[12:33] <samue1> LasseL i dunno im sure it would be different with shuffle
[12:33] <linuxamoeba21> when i try to log in at the login screen, i get an X error and the server restarts, but its only with my one real user account
[12:33] <linuxamoeba21> any ideas?
[12:33] <LasseL> samue1, yeah, I think the shuffle is a little more quirky
[12:33] <shutdownrunner> because it looks like this that when synaptic has to install too many dependencies it gives an error message
[12:33] <sunsun_> hi im not sure if cron and/or postfix are working when i take my laptop
[12:33] <Jowi> anyone know where to set xterms font?
[12:34] <gimmulf_> someone know how to get swedish characters to work in Eterm?
[12:34] <zoexii> shutdownrunner, I just did a search for libcairo with synaptic, and it shows that libcairo2 is already installed.
[12:34] <samue1> LasseL no probs here i just tried it out
[12:34] <shutdownrunner> aha. then maybe you should update packages information and try again. if this doesn't help then there's a bug in ubuntu breezy repository
[12:34] <LasseL> samue1, drives me nuts, 22g of blinking platic
[12:34] <Confuzzled> Ok, is there any way to get linux to use my builtin wireless on a laptop?
[12:35] <samue1> LasseL i bet :( i would be lost without mine
[12:35] <stpere> Confuzzled, yes, maybe
[12:35] <Jowi> ubotu: tell Confuzzled about wireless
[12:35] <zoexii> shutdownrunner, ok, will try.
[12:36] <worthawholebean> ubotu: tell worthawholebean about wireless
[12:36] <Jowi> Confuzzled: if you haven't tried the link ubotu sent you... you should
[12:36] <Mrl33t> is whoever that was helping me with the audio codecs still here?
[12:36] <shutdownrunner> zoexii: it just happens sometimes that a package maintainer doesn't update package information and it requires packages that are obsolete
[12:37] <linuxamoeba21> any ideas on the X errors on login?
[12:37] <Jowi> linuxamoeba21: what errors do you get?
[12:37] <bluefox83> hey, what does linux generally name an internet connection from a wireless card? i know standard ethernet cards start at eth0
[12:38] <Ekibyougami> wlan0
[12:38] <shutdownrunner> and you use iwconfig to configure it
[12:38] <zoexii> shutdownrunner, I see, it looks like vlc is willing to install now that I updated..
[12:38] <bluefox83> k
[12:38] <Jemte> where is it you change which desktop environment is loaded on boot
[12:38] <shutdownrunner> zoexii: so I guess it's ok now
[12:39] <erirlar> hi, is "breezy-backports" the "multiunverse" ?
[12:39] <mustard5> erirlar, there are no breezy backports yet
[12:39] <shutdownrunner> erilrlar: not
[12:39] <Kovecses> Jemte, in gdm
[12:39] <Jowi> Jemte: in your /home/user/.xsession file. gdm use that file if you select "default" as a session.
[12:39] <derek> anyone else have a problem with gaim segfaulting ?
[12:40] <erirlar> mustard5: ok, so there is no chance of getting the multiuniverse then?
[12:40] <Ekibyougami> i havent had any problems with gaim
[12:40] <Ekibyougami> multivers =/= backports
[12:40] <Kovecses> how is brezzy .... im still using hoary?
[12:40] <Mrl33t> im on gaim right now :)
[12:40] <Ekibyougami> seperate repositories
[12:40] <samue1> multiverse is different than backports
[12:40] <Jowi> Jemte: if the desktop environment you have installed is not in the gdm "session list", modify .xsession and add "exec mywmijustinstalled" at the end of it.
[12:40] <gimmulf_> I cant find mplayer in the package thing, shouldnt it be there?=
[12:40] <war-totem> anyone know how to add sourceforge.net to your repositories list?
[12:40] <mustard5> ubotu: tell erirlar about sources
[12:40] <aleksander> atomicplb: you can log in as root through a root terminal
[12:41] <Mrl33t> can someone help me install w32codecs.deb
[12:41] <mustard5> erirlar, check the message from ubotu for a standard breezy sources.list
[12:41] <aleksander> atomicplb: by default it is hidden in breezy
[12:41] <informant> Mrl33t: `dpkg -i w32codecs.deb`?
[12:41] <Jowi> Mrl33t: quick install for all deb's: sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb
[12:41] <johndarkhorse> erirlar: please enable universe and mulitverse, they are safe to use and have many nice programs in them
[12:42] <war-totem> anyone know about adding websites to your repositories?
[12:42] <jcs> Am I missing something?  When I do "sudo mkinitrd -o initrd-whatever" it runs without any complaints, but there is no output file!
[12:42] <Mrl33t> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[12:42] <aleksander> atomicplb: you can find smeg to edit menus in gnome
[12:42] <johndarkhorse> war-totem: see debian.org for an "apt-build" tutorial
[12:42] <informant> war-totem: does this website have the infrastructure to be added as a package repo?
[12:42] <Jowi> Mrl33t: you must use "sudo dpkg -i ..."
[12:42] <war-totem> johndarkhorse, thanks
[12:42] <aleksander> applications>system tools> applications menu editor
[12:43] <aleksander> atomicplb: applications>system tools> applications menu editor
[12:43] <dmlinux> amaroK > XMMS !
[12:43] <gimmulf_> I cant find mplayer in the package thing, shouldnt it be there?=
[12:43] <Jowi> oh well, g'night all
[12:43] <aleksander> atomicplb: you can also log into the root account by typing sudo -s -H and giving your password
[12:43] <samue1> night Jowi
[12:43] <patrickj> ello
[12:43] <cevizoglu> I have much better success with weird formats and dvd's using xine and vlc than with mplayer and totem
[12:43] <johndarkhorse> war-totem: there may be a wiki article, but i'm not at home atm
[12:44] <patrickj> I was wondering if I could get some help setting up phpMyAdmin on my computer
[12:44] <cevizoglu> oops, replying to a old conversation  :P
[12:44] <patrickj> Im running a localhost server purely for the purpose of testing scripts I write
[12:44] <Kovecses> you guys try sreamtuner yet....... it is an awesome application
[12:44] <Mrl33t> yay it worked
[12:44] <Mrl33t> thanks
[12:44] <samue1> Kovecses yeah i use it and streamripper too
[12:45] <Kovecses> samue1, streamripper????
[12:45] <erirlar> um, im haveing a littel problem getting the multiunverse, i can only find universe in Synaptic
[12:45] <samue1> kovecses to rip the songs from the audio :P
[12:45] <tiglionabbit> how do I see which ports I have open?
[12:45] <johndarkhorse> war-totem: there are also howtos on repositories at debian
[12:45] <abk> problem:
[12:45] <Kovecses> samue1, nice
[12:45] <jze> How do I mount .bin files?
[12:45] <abk> I seem to have locked myself out of root on a 5.04 PPC system
[12:45] <samue1> you just hit a record button and it rips the songs to your home directory in mp3
[12:46] <patrickj> think anyone could help me?
[12:46] <abk> can I boot into single-user mode to use visudo?
[12:46] <Mrl33t> nvm... only OGGs play.  all the mp3s dont work
[12:46] <abk> and how?
[12:46] <patrickj> Im running a localhost server purely for the purpose of testing scripts I write
[12:46] <patrickj> I was wondering if I could get some help setting up phpMyAdmin on my computer
[12:46] <patrickj> I got php installed with apache working
[12:46] <tiglionabbit> Mrl33t: mp3 support is in libmad and libgstreamer0.8-mad
[12:46] <Ekibyougami> patrickj, check out http://apachefriends.org
[12:46] <Ekibyougami> xammp is probably about the easiest server package out
[12:46] <patrickj> no, I dont need that
[12:46] <tiglionabbit> how do I list the ports my system is listening on?
[12:47] <patrickj> I just need a little bit of help with phpMyAdmin
[12:47] <patrickj> I already got MySQL/PHP/Apache installed and they work together
[12:47] <patrickj> think someone could help me?
[12:47] <Ekibyougami> ahh
[12:47] <LasseL> tiglionabbit, netstat something
[12:47] <Mrl33t> i dont have libstreamer0.8-mad
[12:47] <patrickj> its just because I need to add databases, also how do I access the mysql cpanel thing?
[12:47] <patrickj> the command line mysql terminal
[12:47] <Mrl33t> only -0 and -dev
[12:47] <LasseL> tiglionabbit, -l ?
[12:47] <selinium> patrickj, i can help!
[12:47] <patrickj> okay
[12:47] <Ekibyougami> you should just be able to open the conf file for it and point it at your sql database and change the user and pass
[12:48] <tiglionabbit> LasseL: thank you
[12:48] <gpd> !topic
[12:48] <Kovecses> samue1, how do you use it????
[12:48] <selinium> patrickj, pm?
[12:48] <patrickj> yes
[12:48] <patrickj> I offered dcc
[12:48] <patrickj> cha
[12:48] <patrickj> t
[12:49] <patrickj> hwo you pm again?
[12:49] <patrickj> been awhile since ive irced
[12:49] <Mrl33t> where do i get libstreamer0.8-mad?
[12:49] <tiglionabbit> Mrl33t: synaptic
[12:49] <samue1> Kovecses in streamtuner you just hot the record button and it will start ripping the songs
[12:50] <abk> no help on booting to a root prompt on 5.04 PPC?
[12:50] <samue1> kovecses a terminal window will open and and tell you which songs its currently ripping and they will be in your home folder
[12:50] <Kovecses> nice
[12:50] <Kovecses> samue1, THANKS
[12:50] <Mrl33t> download synaptic-0.57.tar.gz?
[12:50] <samue1> no worries
[12:51] <war-totem> informant, this website would be sourceforge.net
[12:51] <informant> war-totem: well, does sourceforge specifically have a ubuntu (or debian) repo?
[12:52] <war-totem> informant, probably important to find that out first, but how would i?
[12:53] <informant> war-totem: you can't just add any random site as a repo and expect it to magically work..
[12:53] <samue1> Mrl33t synaptic is in system>administration>synaptic package manager but you can just type sudp apt-get install libstreamer0.8-mad
[12:53] <concept10> why would you want to get synaptic from sourceforge?
[12:53] <linuxamoeba21> please help! i get an error when i try to log into gnome
[12:53] <informant> war-totem: I'd google "sourceforge ubuntu repo" or the like, but I'm betting there isn't
[12:53] <linuxamoeba21> (an X session error, then the x server restarts)
[12:53] <_jason> linuxamoeba21:  post your error on pastebin and give us the link
[12:53] <war-totem> informant, ok ill keep looking tx
[12:53] <concept10> !info synaptic
[12:53] <ubotu> synaptic: (Graphical package manager), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.57.4ubuntu10 (breezy), Packaged size: 1036 kB, Installed size: 5128 kB
[12:54] <Kovecses> samue1, isnt it supposed to seperate the songs?
[12:54] <concept10> .57 is avail in the repo already
[12:54] <samue1> kovec yes it does
[12:54] <informant> war-totem: that's the kind of the gist of "source forge"... it's a development site, and binaries are provided only by the specific application maintainers depending on interest..
[12:54] <Kovecses> samue1, doesnt for me
[12:54] <samue1> kovecses, hmm works fine for me
[12:55] <concept10> Kovecses, do you have streamripper also?
[12:55] <Kovecses> yes
[12:56] <war-totem> informant, i guess they dont want the type of traffic that they would get if everyone added them as a repo, but thats too bad, almost any program you need is prolly there
[12:56] <concept10> Kovecses, try this.  Get the IP address of one of the servers in Streamtuner.  Goto terminal prompt and type "streamripper xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"  (whatever IP address is)
[12:56] <Kovecses> samue1, works with shoutcast but not live365 here
[12:56] <concept10> Kovecses, probably because live365 needs login
[12:56] <ptobler> exit
[12:57] <Maulkin> Lo all. Was wondering if there's a specific list for Ubuntu Developers in the UK. I'm looking at organising Debconf6 flights and was wondering how many people would be interesting in joining the 'flight pool'.
[12:57] <atomicplb> how do I get root rights? never set the root pass?
[12:57] <informant> war-totem: probably. the uni/multi- verse repos have a significant amount of sourceforge apps, too, though
[12:57] <samue1> Kovecses, i only ever listen to shoutcast so i dunno
[12:57] <Kovecses> concept10, probably
[12:57] <Maulkin> Would ubuntu-devel be best for this?
[12:57] <war-totem> informant, true, but proabably only the most common of apps
[12:57] <informant> atomicplb: you should be able to `sudo passwd root`, and then use `su` to gain full root (iirc)
[12:58] <atomicplb> informant thx mate ;)
[12:59] <Mrl33t> im very confused :(
[01:00] <linuxamoeba21> my X error is up at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3315
[01:00] <Bachus9000> Anyone here familiar with wpa_supplicant?
[01:00] <Ectropian> is there Default Root password?  I can't remember setting one, hehe
[01:01] <Narf> Ectropian: type "sudo passwd root" to set it for the first time
[01:01] <Bachus9000> Ectropian: the default is nothing, which disables the root account (the Ubuntu devs want you to sudo everything)
[01:01] <linuxamoeba21> (the important part ends at line 17, sorry)
[01:01] <Ectropian> Nakkel ta
[01:01] <ramza3> Can I run 32bit OS on a 64 bit processor?
[01:02] <Jeromee> has anyone had any luck with a HP Deskjet 3845 Printer?
[01:02] <linuxamoeba21> _jason, the error only affects my one main user account, if that helps
[01:02] <informant> ramza3: is it amd64 or emt64?
[01:02] <linuxamoeba21> Jeromee, yes
[01:02] <abk> anyone here at all familiar with PPC?
[01:02] <informant> ramza3: or itanium/other?
[01:02] <Ninjew> Hey, is there a way to spin up a CD drive manually? When ripping a CD, it never spins up and rips extremely slowly.
[01:02] <dooglus> Ectropian: the default root password isn't nothing (which would mean that it would let you in without asking for a password).  rather it is locked (with passwd -l)
[01:02] <ramza3> informant: should be a AMD64 sempron
[01:02] <Ectropian> Nakkel doesnt' work.. now that I think about it, I believe there's some forum posts on the same issue
[01:02] <informant> ramza3: then yes, you can run a 32-bit install fine on it
[01:02] <ramza3> informant: why would I want 64 anyway, more ram?
[01:03] <Ekibyougami> i like my events
[01:03] <Bachus9000> dooglus: I stand corrected. :)
[01:03] <Ekibyougami> go to n00b field and db the crap out of it
[01:03] <Ekibyougami> =x
[01:03] <Ekibyougami> woops
[01:03] <linuxamoeba21> _jason, you there?
[01:03] <Ekibyougami> wrong chan
[01:03] <Ekibyougami> go me
[01:03] <Ectropian> Narf -l doesn't work either
[01:03] <Ekibyougami> stupid tab and xchat
[01:03] <informant> ramza3: each process can access > 2GB RAM, along with additional capabilities of the specific chips (and speed improvements in certain cases)
[01:03] <dooglus> is there any way for a regular user to use anacron's abilities to run a job on a daily basis?
[01:04] <Mrl33t> what is a .run file?
[01:04] <ramza3> informant, I also have a SATA drive, I hope 5.10 works with that, so far the amd64 versino works
[01:04] <Kovecses> 5.10 will work
[01:04] <_jason> linuxamoeba21:  i was away... I missed your link.  Not sure if I can help but I'll look at it if no one else was able to help you
[01:04] <informant> ramza3: if there's any doubt, you can always try the livecd version first, just to make sure everything is detected nicely..
[01:04] <dooglus> Mrl33t: a .run file is nothing special - but by convention it's how some non-packaged software is distributed.  you just run it using "sh"
[01:04] <linuxamoeba21> thanks _jason; it's at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3315
[01:04] <informant> ramza3: but, as long as you have a standard chipset, you shouldn't have any problems..
[01:04] <Mrl33t> ok... i was wondering because im downloading my ATI drivers adn its a .run file
[01:04] <Narf> Ectropian: worked on the Hoary install I made 2 days ago, not sure about Breezy as I didn't have the change to try it yet :)
[01:05] <Mrl33t> firefox tried to open it and display as plain text
[01:05] <linuxamoeba21> Mrl33t, did you try the fglrz drivers for ati?
[01:05] <linuxamoeba21> *fglrx
[01:05] <Mrl33t> no
[01:05] <dooglus> Mrl33t: that's a good sign that it's a shell script I guess
[01:05] <Mrl33t> where shall i get those?
[01:05] <ramza3> informant, one more question, and but I will probably go to 32bit version; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78657
[01:05] <linuxamoeba21> search that in synaptic
[01:05] <Mrl33t> actually
[01:05] <Mrl33t> i havn't got that to work yet
[01:05] <Mrl33t> can't figure out how to install
[01:06] <Mrl33t> oh wait
[01:06] <war-totem> ive got an odd question here so bear with me, once youve downloaded a program you can use sudo apt-get install *program* and have the apt-get retrieve any dependencies
[01:06] <Mrl33t> dun
[01:06] <Mrl33t> duh
[01:06] <dooglus> is there a program like 'top' but for disk access?  my disk is going crazy and I want to know which process is doing it.
[01:06] <_jason> linuxamoeba21:  sry don't know what's going on there
[01:06] <war-totem> can someone help me out with this
[01:06] <linuxamoeba21> :(
[01:06] <informant> ramza3: when you try to 'hit' the server? with what.. ssh?
[01:06] <linuxamoeba21> anyone else have any ideas about this X error -> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3315
[01:06] <informant> dooglus: iostat, maybe?
[01:06] <logan001101> how to add mplayer plugin for mozilla?
[01:06] <dooglus> informant: nice one, thanks
[01:06] <Mrl33t> fglrx-control?
[01:06] <Mrl33t> that it?
[01:07] <ramza3> informant, anything, I cant tell if it is the monitor suspend mode or harddrive off mode, any hit and the server is dead asleep
[01:07] <Vw790> ok another noob question
[01:07] <Vw790> where is Mozzila at?
[01:07] <linuxamoeba21> Mrl33t, there should be one for your kernel, with i386 or whatever. that's the one you need
[01:07] <linuxamoeba21> actually, hold on a sec
[01:07] <logan001101> Vw790: idont know
[01:07] <Vw790> lol
[01:07] <Vw790> me either
[01:07] <Vw790> :P
[01:07] <Vw790> when threw all them folders
[01:07] <logan001101> Vw790: i installed mplayer from package
[01:08] <logan001101> Vw790: not from apt-get
[01:08] <informant> ramza3: well, the monitor suspend mode shouldn't suspend the hard drive; are you sure you have network daemons activated? ubuntu doesn't ship with sshd (or other net daemons) running by default (as of 5.04)
[01:08] <abk> ...NOBODY knows a thing about Ubuntu PPC?
[01:08] <Mrl33t> ok installing the drivers
[01:08] <informant> abk: what sort of thing?
[01:08] <Mrl33t> in synaptic
[01:08] <Ekibyougami> i've run PPC ubuntu once
[01:08] <Vw790> no mizzila as in firefox
[01:08] <informant> abk: I've run the livecd on my powerbook; haven't installed it, though
[01:08] <logan001101> Vw790: yes, mozilla-firefox
[01:08] <Vw790> right need to know were to find it in term
[01:08] <ramza3> informant, yep I installed it, I am mostly working remotely even though I use X from time to time, when the monitor is black, I cant connect, when I mouse over, works fine
[01:09] <Narf> mm, would apt-get dist-upgrade damage the data on my hard drive?
[01:09] <logan001101> Vw790: i install mozilla through apt-get
[01:09] <informant> ramza3: when you 'mouse over'... what do you mean?
[01:09] <ramza3> informant, mouse and wake up the machine
[01:09] <Vw790> logan: did that get you all the plugins installed?
[01:09] <informant> ramza3: hmm.. weird
[01:09] <logan001101> Vw790: do u mean where the folder of mozilla is??
[01:09] <Vw790> right
[01:10] <ramza3> informant, I will probably go to 32bit mode for the time being
[01:10] <_jason> linuxamoeba21:  are you still there?
[01:10] <linuxamoeba21> Mrl33t, there is a great howto somewhere in the ubuntu forum
[01:10] <Vw790> trying to install the plugins threw term but cant find it
[01:10] <linuxamoeba21> _jason, yeah
[01:10] <informant> ramza3: should work fine
[01:10] <ams_> I am having problems setting up my printer. My printer is an hp desk jet 3322, but the closest driver linux has is 3320.
[01:10] <_jason> linuxamoeba21:  according to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47032 a restart should resolve the problem.  Have you tried restarting?
[01:10] <informant> dooglus: by the way, iostat is part of the 'sysstat' package
[01:10] <linuxamoeba21> _jason, yeah a few times
[01:10] <cheemp> how do i install mysqld 4.1 instead of 4.0 ?
[01:11] <Ekibyougami> restart should fix the problem? are you sure you werent looking in the windows forums?
[01:11] <Vw790> thinking that printer drivers run off of even numbers
[01:11] <informant> dooglus: and then, you can get info on things (without any flags) such as avg-cpu and hard disks:
[01:11] <informant> Device:            tps   Blk_read/s   Blk_wrtn/s   Blk_read   Blk_wrtn
[01:11] <informant> hda               0.52         2.77         8.81    3629588   11550944
[01:11] <Mrl33t> ok... installed ATI control panel
[01:11] <logan001101> Vw790: my problem is i install mozilla and mplayer through apt, but i want uptodate my mplayer but apt didnt get it so i install from package by checkinstall, now i need to know where is the mplayer.so to link to mozilla plugin folder
[01:11] <Mrl33t> how do i get to the control panel now?
[01:11] <Vw790> weither linux or ms
[01:11] <dooglus> informant: I found it, thanks
[01:11] <ams_> I just tried using 3320 and it said its printing, then switches to paused then gives an error
[01:12] <_jason> linuxamoeba21:  try reading through http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=339201 they seem to ave helped that person
[01:12] <abk> crud
[01:12] <abk> how do you whisper again
[01:12] <Vw790> having same problem logan
[01:12] <Vw790> only im trying with realplayer
[01:12] <Mrl33t> how do you get to the ATI control panel?
[01:12] <Vw790> and java
[01:12] <dooglus> thread: remember about a week ago I was scaring you about your '???' entries in auth.log?
[01:12] <linuxamoeba21> okay ill give that a go
[01:12] <dooglus> thread: I found out what causes them.  you'll be relieved to know they're normal.
[01:12] <logan001101> my java is ok
[01:13] <patrickj> I have a Radeon 9600 Pro Advantage, and 1gb ram, think I can run UT 2k3/2k4?
[01:13] <logan001101> just dont know where is mplayer.so
[01:13] <logan001101> fo mozilla
[01:13] <Vw790> how did you get the plugin to work logan?
[01:13] <cheemp> who knows how to use apt-get to install mysql 4.1 instead of 4,0
[01:13] <logan001101> link it to ~/.mozilla
[01:13] <propagandhi> logan00101: the mplayer.so? it doesnt exist
[01:13] <logan001101> link it to ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[01:13] <johndarkhorse> chemisus: use synaptic and choose the version you want
[01:13] <Vw790> no such file or directory
[01:13] <Mrl33t> can someone tell me how to get to the ATI control panel now?
[01:13] <logan001101> propagandhi: what do u mean?? so how can i install the plugin for mozilla
[01:14] <logan001101> ??
[01:14] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell logan001101 about javadeb
[01:14] <dooglus> informant: iostat seems to only give total disk usage - not per-process - so it doesn't help me know which process is naughty
[01:14] <logan001101> did u guys try find
[01:14] <logan001101> it doesn work for me??
[01:14] <phillips> does anybody have kdelibs4 installed on breezy?
[01:14] <abk> informant: I just need to to boot to a root prompt
[01:14] <informant> abk: in single-user mode?
[01:14] <propagandhi> logan001101: http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[01:14] <linuxamoeba21> _jason: root owned my .Xauthority... i'll try restarting X... keep your fingers crossed
[01:15] <dooglus> when I enter single user mode, it prompts me for my root password.  would it still do that if I hadn't set a root password?
[01:15] <abk> exactly
[01:15] <logan001101> johndarkhorse: what wrong with javadeb??
[01:15] <abk> informant: I've only done it on OS X
[01:15] <Confuzzled> dooglus: enter your normal user password, that may work
[01:15] <centrebullet> Ok I have ubuntu installed but in order to get my wifi going I need the kernel source.  Do I d/l the kernel deb file and install that?
[01:16] <Ectropian> Using Breezy: Anyone else having trouble setting root password with sudo?
[01:16] <abk> informant: not sure how you go about it in Ubunti
[01:16] <dooglus> Confuzzled: for single user mode?  that's not a "sudo" thing
[01:16] <abk> Ubuntu, rather
[01:16] <dooglus> Ectropian: all you need to do is "sudo passwd", then type YOUR password, then choose a root password
[01:16] <Vw790> my java isnt ok
[01:16] <centrebullet> Anyone?
[01:16] <Vw790> and that wiki isnt helping
[01:17] <Vw790> been there
[01:17] <Vw790> being keying all that such in
[01:17] <dooglus> centrebullet: you just install linux-source
[01:17] <Vw790> no help
[01:17] <dmlinux> How do i get my SD card reader working
[01:17] <abk> informant: can you remind me how to whisper in IRC?
[01:17] <dmlinux> its not USB its onboard
[01:17] <centrebullet> dooglus: deb package?
[01:17] <alphabet`> yaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:17] <alphabet`> repos are back u
[01:17] <alphabet`> p
[01:17] <alphabet`> up
[01:17] <gusto5> dmlinux, does it show up on fstab?
[01:17] <dooglus> centrebullet: from synaptic or apt-get or deborphan or aptitude or [...] 
[01:17] <dmlinux> gusto how do i access Fstab?
[01:18] <Ectropian> dooglus, thanks got it.
[01:18] <Vw790> logan
[01:18] <logan001101> ??
[01:18] <gusto5> dmlinux, `nano /etc/fstab
[01:18] <Vw790> how did you get java to work and what ver. are you running?
[01:18] <centrebullet> dooglus: no net connection that's why I'm asking if I need to d/l the deb, burn to cd and install that way?
[01:18] <dooglus> Ectropian: you probably don't want to set your root password, from a safety point of view
[01:18] <informant> abk: you mean, private message? or whisper?
[01:18] <logan001101> yes, im running
[01:18] <dooglus> centrebullet: that would work.
[01:18] <alphabet`> er
[01:18] <abk> informant: pm
[01:18] <alphabet`> isn't it
[01:18] <logan001101> i installed java from sun
[01:18] <dooglus> centrebullet: look on packages.ubuntu.com for the package
[01:18] <alphabet`> nano -w /etc/fstab
[01:18] <alphabet`> ?
[01:18] <Vw790> sam
[01:18] <Vw790> same
[01:18] <abk> something that lets me talk to just one person
[01:18] <informant> abk:  "/msg [person] "
[01:19] <centrebullet> dooglus: I tried that but they arent deb packages
[01:19] <Vw790> but iz saying that the plugin isnt enabled
[01:19] <linuxamoeba21> THANK YOU, _jason
[01:19] <logan001101> java ver : 1.4.2
[01:19] <gusto5> dmlinux, what alphabet` said, althought it doesnt really matter to view
[01:19] <dooglus> centrebullet: the packages on packages.ubuntu.com surely are .deb packages
[01:19] <sampan> abk, on most irc clients you can use: /msg <nick>  or /query <nick>  (even /q)  of course without the <> characters
[01:19] <logan001101> why?
[01:19] <alphabet`> oh, yeah
[01:19] <dooglus> centrebullet: breezy, i386?
[01:19] <linuxamoeba21> _jason, the problem was ownership of /home/username/.ICEauthority
[01:19] <alphabet`> nano -v /etc/fstab = to read only
[01:19] <centrebullet> dooglus: I tried those I few days ago and it didnt work, yeah intel
[01:19] <logan001101> for me it worked
[01:19] <Vw790> got java 1.5.0.04
[01:19] <logan001101> nope
[01:20] <logan001101> u got it
[01:20] <logan001101> ?
[01:20] <dmlinux> gusto5 doesnt show up on fstab
[01:20] <dooglus> centrebullet: "it didn't work" how?
[01:20] <Vw790> i unpacked and installed from root
[01:20] <gusto5> dmlinux, what kind of on board SD card reader do you have?
[01:20] <logan001101> all is from root
[01:20] <Vw790> it confermed completion
[01:20] <Vw790> and it dont work
[01:20] <logan001101> don need to say
[01:20] <_jason> linuxamoeba21:  glad we figured it out
[01:20] <logan001101> nah
[01:20] <centrebullet> dooglus: I can't remember exactly, I think it said something about how the package wasnt the right format
[01:20] <Vw790> well can do from term but i went root
[01:20] <dmlinux> gusto5 im not sure. Its on a Dell inspiron 6000
[01:20] <logan001101> i download from sun>??
[01:20] <dooglus> centrebullet: get this: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb
[01:20] <Vw790> im a noob :P
[01:21] <Vw790> yes
[01:21] <gusto5> dmlinux, desktop or notebook?
[01:21] <dmlinux> gusto5 its a SD card reader only
[01:21] <dmlinux> gusto5 notebook
[01:21] <linuxamoeba21> there's no people like ubuntu people. thanks again and talk to you later
[01:21] <Vw790> but when i got to a java page it tells me its not enabled
[01:21] <gusto5> dmlinux, alrighty. gimme a sec.
[01:21] <logan001101> hey, u called me noob too :D
[01:21] <Vw790> :P did not
[01:21] <propagandhi> logan001101: did u install the plugin
[01:21] <Vw790> its all me man
[01:21] <dooglus> centrebullet: ah - except you probably just want the kernel HEADERS don't you?  not the full source?
[01:21] <Vw790> i am the noob
[01:21] <logan001101> propagandhi: java plugin??
[01:21] <Vw790> but seriously i cant get it inabled
[01:21] <logan001101> propagandhi: i did
[01:21] <propagandhi> logan001101: no mplayer plugin
[01:22] <Vw790> propagandhi
[01:22] <Vw790> install the plug in?
[01:22] <Knowerrors> Hi all, trying to use the kubuntu 5.10 cd to upgrade my kde, and I get this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/jFumn815.html , any ideas to help?
[01:22] <logan001101> Vw790: actually my friend help me
[01:22] <Vw790> it doesnt install all at once?
[01:22] <gusto5> dmlinux, if you pop in an SD card, and run dmesg, does anything show up?
[01:22] <centrebullet> dooglus: Can't I just get the src from kernel.org and use that?
[01:22] <ciocanel> I'm trying to install gstreamer-plugins and I keep getting this error " illegal instruction in idct8x8_s16_mmx", can anyone help me?
[01:22] <K^Holtz> someone is complaining to me that during their installation of ubuntu, when they "hit Enter to install the Kernal it Freezes".. can someone tell me anything about this problem, or how to correct it please?
[01:22] <logan001101> propagandhi: no i didnt
[01:22] <Vw790> took 3 mins to install dir by dir
[01:22] <dooglus> centrebullet: you need source which matches the kernel you're running.
[01:23] <logan001101> Vw790: no, it doesnt like apt-get
[01:23] <Vw790> oh ok
[01:23] <logan001101> Vw790: no, it doesnt like apt-get install
[01:23] <centrebullet> dooglus: no you dont
[01:23] <K^Holtz> and then it says he has to restart
[01:23] <dooglus> centrebullet: if you want to get the kernel.org source and build it and run that kernel, then that's fine, but it's probably a lot more work than you want to do
[01:23] <Vw790> logan 001101: what does apt - get do?
[01:23] <logan001101> propagandhi: u know how to install the plugin??
[01:23] <dmlinux> gusto5 omg !! i get a bunch of crap one sec, pasting for you
[01:23] <Kovecses> what is the default kernel for 5.10
[01:23] <centrebullet> dooglus: you can be running 2.4.x and install 2.6.x kernel source and it works fine
[01:23] <cafuego_> Kovecses: 2.6.12-9
[01:23] <propagandhi> logan001101: i sent you the link http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[01:23] <Pupeno> How do I restart only one network intreface ?
[01:23] <dooglus> centrebullet: you can?
[01:24] <centrebullet> dooglus: sure
[01:24] <KRomeleoN> i need help, i have a compaq computrer and when i itry and direct boot to ubuntu install  it reboots
[01:24] <Ekibyougami> Pupeno,  ifdown eth0
[01:24] <dmlinux> gusto5 http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3316 really wierd
[01:24] <logan001101> propagandhi: oh, im reading
[01:24] <Ekibyougami> or ifdown wlan0
[01:24] <KRomeleoN> i tghink its a apci prob?
[01:24] <Vw790> lol KRomeleoN
[01:24] <logan001101> thanks everyone
[01:24] <Vw790> i so know the feeling
[01:24] <dooglus> centrebullet: why don't you do that then?
[01:24] <Ekibyougami> and then ifup eth0/wlan0 to bring it bacj up
[01:24] <KRomeleoN> acpi
[01:24] <logan001101> im trying to do it
[01:24] <Ekibyougami> acpi is fun
[01:25] <cafuego_> There's a 'kernel-headers' package for userspace development. If you're building kernel space stuff, you need headers that match the running kernel.
[01:25] <Ekibyougami> i had to recompile my kernel to get my battery monitor and temp controls working
[01:25] <KRomeleoN> but even when i set ubuntu to acpi off it still reboots
[01:25] <Knowerrors> how can I get proper APT key/signature info installed manually, seems to not be working
[01:25] <dooglus> cafuego_: what's the difference between that and linux-headers?
[01:25] <Pupeno> Ekibyougami: thanks.
[01:25] <Ekibyougami> welcome
[01:25] <Vw790> KRomeleon: i had to put a second HD in to get Ubuntu to install
[01:25] <dooglus> kernel-headers is only for AMD64?
[01:25] <gusto5> dmlinux, that's odd...but not to wory too much yet...
[01:25] <KRomeleoN> a second hd?
[01:25] <cafuego_> dooglus: linux-headers are the set of headers for yer current kernel, I thyink. (as opposed to the full source)
[01:25] <Vw790> yea a  slave
[01:25] <logan001101> propagandhi: do u know how to use checkinstall??
[01:25] <atomicplb> argh cant uninstall netbeans (from java)..
[01:25] <logan001101> propagandhi: can i PM u?
[01:25] <cafuego_> dooglus: Mind you, I may have switched the package names.
[01:26] <KRomeleoN> and install it to the slave?
[01:26] <Vw790> if you already have a partition you can use that
[01:26] <dooglus> cafuego_: and kernel-headers are old it seems.
[01:26] <Vw790> other wise you gotta partition
[01:26] <KRomeleoN> what if i saet the cdrom to master and hd to slave
[01:26] <gusto5> dmlinux, give lspci -v a shot
[01:26] <dooglus> it seems they're trying to use 'linux' instead of 'kernel' everywhere now, somewhat confusingly
[01:26] <propagandhi> logan001101: yes
[01:26] <Vw790> :S use the live cd KRomeleon
[01:26] <KRomeleoN> i dont ewant to use a live cd
[01:27] <patrickj> ubotu tell patrickj about ati
[01:27] <KRomeleoN> its for a kid whose winxp machine is fucked and i wanna covert him to ubuntu and live cd wont gelp
[01:27] <Vw790> then ya gotta partition or install a second hd KRomeleon
[01:27] <dmlinux> gusto5 pasting now
[01:28] <KRomeleoN> a sercond hd and install to the secdond slave hd?
[01:28] <Vw790> yes
[01:28] <dooglus> cafuego_: just to make it more confusing still, there's also a package called linux-kernel-headers !
[01:28] <Vw790> very easy
[01:28] <KRomeleoN> then can i make the ibstall drive master?
[01:28] <KRomeleoN> and pull the other hd?
[01:28] <dmlinux> gusto5 http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3317
[01:28] <Vw790> KRomeleoN: it takes care of everything for you that way
[01:28] <Vw790> pull the hd?
[01:28] <KRomeleoN> yeah do i have to keep 2hds in there?
[01:28] <dmlinux> gusto5 looks like its the Ricoh Co Ltd
[01:29] <Vw790> yes
[01:29] <KRomeleoN> thats pretty gay
[01:29] <Vw790> if you wish to run on them on that box
[01:29] <Vw790> well you can always partition
[01:29] <KRomeleoN> whats the reasoning for needing 2 hd?
[01:29] <KRomeleoN> i am fine partitoioning
[01:29] <dmlinux> gusto5 or is it the CardBus bridge
[01:29] <Vw790> two hd makes it so you dont have to partition
[01:29] <Vw790> then p
[01:29] <Vw790> :P
[01:29] <KRomeleoN> what sizes should the partitions?
[01:30] <KRomeleoN> its a 40gb hd
[01:30] <dmlinux> gusto5 so confusing to noobies :P
[01:30] <gusto5> dmlinux, that looks right
[01:30] <gusto5> dmlinux, it is. it seems alot of notebook owners with on-board card readers are having problems
[01:30] <dmlinux> gusto5 oy :(
[01:31] <Vw790> KRemeleoN: depends on what your planning to do
[01:31] <cafuego_> Well, who users cards these days anyway?
[01:31] <hedgehog> Is there anything special I would need to install Linux along with windows on my machine?
[01:31] <Vw790> if your looking to learn 6 gigs is more then enough
[01:31] <KRomeleoN> its gonna be the only os
[01:31] <cevizoglu> hedgehog, nothing special besides separate partitions
[01:31] <KRomeleoN> the hd is empty
[01:31] <hedgehog> I honestly have no idea what a second partition is :(
[01:32] <gusto5> dmlinux, is the card reader a necessity?
[01:32] <cafuego_> KRomeleoN: just make it autopartition; probably 39.5GB / and 512Mb swap.
[01:32] <Vw790> KRomeleoN: no i dont recommend that
[01:32] <DShepherd> Does anyone else think that the default font for firefox is small? (breezy) MY screen resolution is 1280*1024
[01:32] <KRomeleoN> bo?
[01:32] <KRomeleoN> no?
[01:32] <Ekibyougami> DShepherd, hold ctrl and the up arrow
[01:32] <Vw790> no
[01:32] <Ekibyougami> it will make the font bigger
[01:32] <KRomeleoN> why?
[01:32] <dmlinux> gusto5 it has my resume on it :(
[01:32] <Vw790> not unless your expericaned
[01:32] <cevizoglu> hedgehog, a partition is splitting the drive into separate parts so you can have windows on one and ubunto on the other
[01:33] <cafuego_> KRomeleoN: if you want a separate home, use 10GB /, 29.5GB /home and 512Mb swap (in that order)
[01:33] <DShepherd> Ekibyougami: but I have to that every time I load a new page
[01:33] <DShepherd> Ekibyougami: or reset it
[01:33] <Ekibyougami> you can change it in the options
[01:33] <cafuego_> KRomeleoN: That means that in future you cna trash / without destroying any data on /home
[01:33] <dooglus> 512Mb is quite small for a swap partition.  I'd go for 1Gb, for those times when you need a bit more
[01:33] <DShepherd> Ekibyougami: What are the fonts you use?
[01:34] <Ekibyougami> one sec
[01:34] <dooglus> I'm using 231Mb at the moment, and I'm not running a whole lot of stuff
[01:34] <cafuego_> dooglus: When your box is actively using 512Mb swap, you have issues ;-)
[01:34] <Ekibyougami> i have mscore fonts installed
[01:34] <Ekibyougami> otherwise i us monospace
[01:34] <dooglus> cafuego_: it's not actively using it - it's swapped out...
[01:34] <KRomeleoN> so i cant just have a 39gb/1gb swap ?
[01:34] <cevizoglu> cafuego, issues, like wanting to run too many apps at once  ;)
[01:34] <KRomeleoN> th swap isnt a secomnd partition?
[01:34] <DShepherd> Ekibyougami: How do I get mscore?
[01:34] <hedgehog> What do I need to do to make a second partition?
[01:34] <dooglus> I'm only running 7 apps
[01:35] <KRomeleoN> partition magic?
[01:35] <cafuego_> dooglus: Yes, in favour of cache. With less cache, you can also use less swap.
[01:35] <hedgehog> seriously, I am obviously new to linux :(
[01:35] <cevizoglu> hedgehog, you need to run one of the many partitioners available.  but back up ALL of your data first
[01:35] <Ekibyougami> !mscorefonts
[01:35] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Ekibyougami
[01:35] <Ekibyougami> garr
[01:35] <cafuego_> dooglus: Mine has 725 MB of shite swapped out; but the moment I want to sue that, it takles *ages* for it to become responsive.
[01:35] <hedgehog> ok
[01:35] <Ekibyougami> i dont remember =x
[01:35] <Vw790> yes
[01:35] <KRomeleoN> whats a good free partitioner? i dont wanna find my partition magic cd
[01:35] <cafuego_> dooglus: Besides, you can always add swap.
[01:35] <Vw790> jus much easier if you leave it as two drives
[01:35] <dooglus> cafuego_: I'm running azureus - that's using over 400Mb of space on its own
[01:35] <cafuego_> KRomeleoN: The install CD will do it for you.
[01:36] <Blissex> KRomeleoN: depends a lot on what you want to do.
[01:36] <DShepherd> Ekibyougami: I think I have that already. I play around with the fonts and see what suits me best
[01:36] <Vw790> and let grubs deal with everything else
[01:36] <Ekibyougami> ubuntuguide.org is where i got the fonts
[01:36] <KRomeleoN> the install cd just friggin reboots
[01:36] <DShepherd> Ekibyougami: thanks
[01:36] <dooglus> cafuego_: it's not easy to add a new swap partition if you've already divided your disk into 39.5 (ext3) and 0.5 (swap)
[01:36] <Ekibyougami> welcome
[01:36] <KRomeleoN> the install cd just friggin reboots cuz of this apci bs
[01:36] <gusto5> dmlinux, anyone can get the file off the card for ya?
[01:36] <Vw790> KRomeleonN: cuz you have no space for it
[01:36] <Vw790> hold up brb
[01:36] <tomsdimension> how do I raid a partition on one harddrive with all the space on another harddrive
[01:36] <dooglus> cafuego_: he's in a state now where he can easily add an extra 0.5Gb swap.  it won't be this easy again once he's partitioned
[01:36] <bimberi> DShepherd, Ekibyougami: the package is msttcorefonts (in multiverse) :)
[01:37] <cafuego_> KRomeleoN: Then no amount of 3rd party partitioning is going to be useful. Can you boot with 'acpi=off pci=noacpi'  options?
[01:37] <dmlinux> gusto5 well i can go back to winblowz, but i want to get my SD card working
[01:37] <Ekibyougami> ty bimberi
[01:37] <cevizoglu> dooglus, it's very easy depending on your ability to restore systems or repartition
[01:37] <bimberi> Ekibyougami: yw :)
[01:37] <KRomeleoN> acpi=off doesnt work
[01:37] <mae> with ubuntus default crontab, is it possible to use identifiers like @reboot
[01:37] <KRomeleoN> the pc still reboots
[01:37] <LokeDK> Is there a way, in nautilus, to switch off that it should play a music file when the mouse is over it? i got like a heart attack for a couple of minutes ago because of that :(
[01:37] <DShepherd> bimberi: yeah thanks
[01:37] <cafuego_> LokeDK: Yes.
[01:37] <gusto5> dmlinux, i havent found anyone who has managed to make it work yet, sorry :(
[01:37] <bimberi> DShepherd: yw too :)
[01:37] <dooglus> cevizoglu: it's hard*er* to do it later, than to do it now
[01:38] <dmlinux> gusto ok ty :)
[01:38] <cafuego_> LokeDK: Prefs -> File Management -> Preview
[01:38] <cevizoglu> dooglus, I thought the general rule was to multiply your RAM by 2x
[01:38] <gusto5> dmlinux, this is the other ppl with your problem => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8381&highlight=dell+sd+card
[01:38] <cafuego_> cevizoglu: Only on kernels with a broken vm subsystem. it was fixed as of 2.4.4.
[01:39] <cevizoglu> cafuego_, i c
[01:39] <KRomeleoN> is edubuntu better for like a 10 year old  kid
[01:39] <KRomeleoN> ?
[01:39] <pupil> heh
[01:39] <Dreamglider> once in d:/ (usbcdrom) in dos can i boot the Ubuntu LiveCD ?
[01:39] <LokeDK> cafuego, ah thanks
[01:39] <cevizoglu> KRomeleoN, beats me, my 2 year-old can do some wicked stuff on a computer, no matter what kind
[01:39] <cafuego_> dooglus: Adding a swap *file* is trivial at any stage.
[01:39] <ajordao> whats the package to install all gnome things ?
[01:39] <cafuego_> dooglus: No partitoning involved.
[01:40] <bimberi> KRomeleoN: if no-one here knows, try #edubuntu
[01:40] <bimberi> ajordao: ubuntu-desktop
[01:40] <gusto5> dmlinux, sorry i couldnt find a fix for ya.
[01:40] <lennox> why is it when i goto compile programs it says c and gcc arent found?
[01:40] <Ekibyougami> lol
[01:40] <cevizoglu> lennox, try "which gcc" from the command-line
[01:40] <ajordao> bimberi: thx
[01:40] <bimberi> lennox: install build-essential
[01:40] <dmlinux> gusto5 np
[01:40] <cafuego_> lennox: What are you trying to compile?
[01:40] <lennox> the latest bx
[01:41] <Mrl33t> haha:  windows error
[01:41] <lennox> but no matter what i try to compile it says the same
[01:41] <bimberi> ajordao: yw :)
[01:41] <cafuego_> !tell lennox about compiling
[01:41] <Dreamglider> is there a way to boot the Ubuntu livecd once im  in dos ?
[01:41] <Ekibyougami> gah, i forgot the command to boot cd in dos
[01:41] <KRomeleoN> so you guys are saying that the ubuntu install is rebooting because theres not enough space to install beavause of the apci and i need 3 partitions including swap to get it to install?
[01:41] <lennox> which gcc turns up nothing
[01:41] <cafuego_> KRomeleoN: No.
[01:41] <pupil> where do I go to edit display settings again?
[01:41] <Ekibyougami> driveletter: autorun
[01:41] <Ekibyougami> ?
[01:41] <cafuego_> KRomeleoN: How much ram do you have?
[01:42] <cevizoglu> lennox, then you probably don't have it installed
[01:42] <KRomeleoN> its a 2.7ghz machine with 256
[01:42] <gusto5> pupil, which display settings? :p
[01:42] <lennox> it doesnt install automatically with ubuntu?
[01:42] <pupil> gusto5, resolution
[01:42] <cafuego_> KRomeleoN: Then's more than enough ram for a normall instllation.
[01:42] <pupil> gusto5, how are yah by the way?
[01:42] <Ekibyougami> lol
[01:42] <Dreamglider> hehe
[01:42] <KRomeleoN> then why does it reboot?
[01:42] <Ekibyougami> its dir P229
[01:42] <gusto5> pupil, system > preferences > screen resolution
[01:42] <gusto5> pupil, not too bad.
[01:42] <Ekibyougami> dir/p and dir |w
[01:42] <cafuego_> lennox: no, for the simple reason that most people have no business compiling stuff (because they'll break their systems)
[01:43] <Dreamglider> or dir /w/p
[01:43] <pupil> gusto5, no ,. there's a resolution setting I have to add,. I just don't remember which file to edit
[01:43] <P229> Ekibyougami: I know, but I instinctively do ls
[01:43] <KRomeleoN> ive installed ubuntu about 10 times already on various machines but this compaq is being gay
[01:43] <lennox> er, ok i see this was a wasted partition
[01:43] <lennox> bbl back to slack
[01:43] <phr0stbyte> US mirrors are broken - use another..... OK...... Is there a list of mirrors out there somewhere?
[01:43] <Master-Tricky> Please help!  I had problems upgrading from Hoary to Breezy so I decided I'd just overwrite Hoary considering I haven't had it very long....Well I was stupid and thought I could just overwrite the partition with the installer, so I just decided to format the partition and I got an error saying no root found.  I figured I'd actually read up so I tried rebooting into Windows and GRUB gave me "Error 15" and that's it....I a
[01:43] <Master-Tricky> ssume Windows' partition is unharmed considering I didn't even TOUCH that partition...So could someone please help me get back into Windows?  This is a family computer so I'm starting to panic...:-P
[01:43] <cafuego_> KRomeleoN: *that* is a the million dollar question. Does it get to a specific point before it reboots? Does it print any logs?
[01:43] <cafuego_> Haha!
[01:43] <P229> KRomeleoN: you'll have to wait for "dapper drake," then
[01:43] <KRomeleoN> it reboots right as its loading
[01:43] <KRomeleoN> first steop
[01:44] <pupil> I need to add a resolution setting what file do I edit again??
[01:44] <KRomeleoN> with every distro
[01:44] <ajordao> whats edubuntu _
[01:44] <KRomeleoN> not just ubuntu
[01:44] <cafuego_> KRomeleoN: Does the CD have a 'memtest' boot option?
[01:44] <KRomeleoN> edubuntu looks to be linux for 4 year oldsd
[01:44] <dmlinux> gusto5 yeah my specific laptop does not have a driver for it yet, its one of the two dells that dont
[01:44] <KRomeleoN> no
[01:44] <phr0stbyte> pupil: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:44] <cevizoglu> geez, people shouldn't be using gcc if they don't know how to locate it
[01:44] <Dreamglider> Master-Tricky you need to reinstall GURB i belive
[01:44] <gusto5> dmlinux, yep. that's what i kept seeing...thanks cevizoglu :)
[01:44] <bimberi> ajordao: http://www.edubuntu.org/
[01:45] <cafuego_> cevizoglu: Let alone slackware <heh>
[01:45] <Mrl33t> how do you create a desktop shortcut?
[01:45] <flozilum> ps/2 mouse question:  is it possible to hot swap a ps/2 mouse without stopping/starting the device driver?
[01:45] <KRomeleoN> what if i install it on a hd on another machine and then put the hd into this computer?
[01:45] <pupil> phr0stbyte, heh,. thanks
[01:45] <Master-Tricky> Dreamglider: Okay how can I do that :-P
[01:45] <phr0stbyte> US mirrors are broken - use another..... OK...... Is there a list of mirrors out there somewhere?
[01:45] <Master-Tricky> Dreamglider: I'm using Knoppix right now
[01:45] <P229> Mrl33t: shortcut to what?
[01:45] <cafuego_> cevizoglu: Still, it's not possible for us to help anyone if they decide they know better. (BitchX user, who gives a crap anyway?)
[01:46] <KRomeleoN> can u install knopix to hd?
[01:46] <Dreamglider> Master-Tricky im new here but if you have a liveCD like knoppix it should be no probkem
[01:46] <Dreamglider> Master-Tricky i belive the command was somthing like grub-install hda or somthing
[01:46] <cevizoglu> cafuego, it's not possible to help if they quit in the middle  ;)
[01:47] <KRomeleoN> what if i install it on a hd on another machine and then put the hd into this computer?
[01:47] <TiMiDo> KRomeleoN; you will get kernel panic
[01:47] <Mrl33t> P229: i installed realplayer but there is no desktop shortcut for it
[01:47] <pupil> brb,. gotta restart x
[01:47] <beerguy> yo
[01:47] <cevizoglu> KRomeleoN, you may get varying degrees of success depending on how diffreent the hardware is
[01:47] <flozilum> iow - will i have to restart the mouse driver when i change mouses?
[01:47] <Master-Tricky> Thanks Dreamglider, so does anyone know exactly how I can properly install GRUB and fix the "Error 15?"
[01:47] <beerguy> the new ubuntu is pretty cool
[01:47] <cafuego_> cevizoglu: To me that indicates they don't WANT help. Not knowledge anyway.
[01:47] <kbrooks> flozilum: No.
[01:47] <kbrooks> Never.
[01:48] <flozilum> plug and play then?
[01:48] <P229> Mrl33t: is there an entry in Gnome panel for it?
[01:48] <kbrooks> flozilum: ps/2 iirc
[01:48] <abk> Master-Tricky, you can do what I did to install Breezy
[01:48] <cevizoglu> cafuego_, yeah
[01:48] <Dreamglider> anyone know how i can start Ubuntu live CD in dos, i managed to get my usbcdrom to work in dos
[01:48] <beerguy> can anyone own an ubuntu box or are they pretty secure on a fresh install?
[01:48] <phr0stbyte> US mirrors are broken - use another..... OK...... Is there a list of mirrors out there somewhere?
[01:48] <Mrl33t> is Gnome panel the drop down list at the top-left of the screen?
[01:48] <NoUse> Dreamglider ubuntu doesn't run on top of Dos
[01:48] <P229> Dreamglider: you can't just boot from CD?
[01:48] <stpere> I heard Breezy was adding better support for multiple sound cards ... where do I go to select my soundcard?
[01:48] <abk> master-tricky: delete the partitions with nothing on them in the partitioner
[01:48] <cafuego_> beerguy: They run no services, so  it would be fairly hard to get in remotely ;-)
[01:49] <Dreamglider> P229 no i have to boot of a floppy to get the usbcdrom to work
[01:49] <flozilum> kbrooks: i'
[01:49] <flozilum> ll give it a shot
[01:49] <Master-Tricky> abk: If I delete the partition I "attempted" to format should everything go okay? As in no errors?
[01:49] <cafuego_> stpere: prefs -> Sound
[01:49] <P229> Dreamglider: google for smart boot manager
[01:49] <KRomeleoN> i wanna cry, i cant believe i have to installk windows vback on this thing
[01:49] <abk> master-tricky: then tell it to write the changes the disk. it'll tell you "no root found" and take you back to the partitioner
[01:49] <P229> Dreamglider: that might work
[01:49] <stpere> cafuego, duh, thanks :-P
[01:49] <selinium> hi all, updated to breezy and mysqlcc seems to have removed itself from my setup. Is there a breezy compatible one?
[01:50] <P229> KRomeleoN: why do you have to do that/
[01:50] <abk> and then you can go back to the guided partitioner and tell it to use the largest contiguous free space
[01:50] <tamale> Ok.. so I've definately nailed down my problem.. every boot up it locks up at the "starting hotplug subsystem" part... I've already tried disabling the onboard scsi, USB, and everything else that I can through Bios... anyone have any ideas what else could be wrong?
[01:50] <KRomeleoN> cuz the ubuntu install just reboots
[01:50] <abk> if I remember correctly, the Ubuntu installer reinstalls GRUB when it goes through its little process
[01:50] <Master-Tricky> abk: Okay....but I'm running a dual boot with Windows so wouldn't that automatically choose the large 180 GB Windows partition? O_o
[01:50] <fdelacruz> Gudmorning Guys
[01:50] <kbrooks> KRomeleoN: it reboots? wtf?
[01:50] <abk> no, because that's formatted
[01:50] <kbrooks> KRomeleoN: instALLER?
[01:51] <KRomeleoN> yeah the pc reboots as it starts to load files
[01:51] <KRomeleoN> yes the installer
[01:51] <mvg> What's the trick to bring the Terminal back to the desktop console window?
[01:51] <flozilum> kbrooks: success
[01:51] <abk> you want to _delete_ the partitions that you're not using
[01:51] <abk> and they will turn into free space
[01:51] <ams_> I am having problems with my hp deskjet 3322, when ever I tell it to print it just pauses it self right after. I cannot get it to print (linux nuby)
[01:51] <abk> aka unpartitioned space
[01:51] <Master-Tricky> abk: But I don't want to delete the Windows partition. O_o
[01:51] <abk> no
[01:51] <Master-Tricky> abk: XD sorry I'm kinda lost now
[01:51] <KRomeleoN> i think its an apci problem?
[01:51] <abk> haha
[01:51] <abk> it's all right
[01:51] <abk> here
[01:51] <abk> hang on
[01:51] <Master-Tricky> abk: Okay thanks :-P
[01:51] <tamale> Ok.. so I've definately nailed down my problem.. every boot up it locks up at the "starting hotplug subsystem" part... I've already tried disabling the onboard scsi, USB, and everything else that I can through Bios... anyone have any ideas what else could be wrong?
[01:51] <abk> okay
[01:51] <abk> so
[01:52] <abk> you're going to go into the partitioner on the install CD
[01:52] <Xenguy> !enter
[01:52] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[01:52] <abk> find the partition with the messed up Ubuntu install
[01:52] <abk> the partition that is NOT the windows install
[01:52] <tcjohnson> hey uh, my eclipse doesn't work.... is there another ide i could give a shot that would work with java 1.5?
[01:52] <Mrl33t> so how do i create a shortcut?
[01:52] <abk> and then tell the partitioner to delete it
[01:52] <Master-Tricky> abk: Okay I get it so far
[01:53] <abk> after that you can tell the partitioner to write changes to disk
[01:53] <abk> it will give you a big scary error screen saying "NO ROOT FOUND"
[01:53] <tamale> please?  anyone ?
[01:53] <dmlinux> Well time to take a shower, i stink
[01:53] <abk> and take you back to the partitioner
[01:53] <Master-Tricky> abk: Yeah I saw that when I attempted to format the same partition....
[01:53] <abk> but the partitioner will have already deleted the aprtition
[01:53] <abk> partition*
[01:54] <abk> SO you can then go back to the guided partitioner (it's one of the options on the partitioner screen)
[01:54] <abk> and say "okay, use the largest free space"
[01:54] <abk> what this willl do is use the largest bit of the drive that IS NOT partitioned
[01:55] <abk> meaning it won't touch your NTFS/FAT32 partitions
[01:55] <abk> it'll give you a preview of what it's going to do so that you can ensure that you're not overwriting your Windows partition
[01:55] <Master-Tricky> abk: Okay I understand what you're saying, but once I delete the Linux partition the rest of my hard drive is just the main NTFS Windows partition and a FAT32 system recovery partition....so where is it going to take the space from?
[01:56] <abk> well once you delete that Linux partition the Windows partition doesn't automatically expand to take up the space
[01:56] <tamale> can anyone help please?
[01:56] <abk> you have a chunk of your drive not doing anything
[01:56] <Master-Tricky> abk: Oh yeah, forgot about that. :-P
[01:56] <abk> so the partitioner will make the partitions it needs and then proceed with the install
[01:56] <hedgehog> system_sav is backing up, right? or do i need to go to nero?
[01:57] <Master-Tricky> abk: Okay, so I'm not even toughing my NTFS drive at all, so nothing SHOULD go wrong on the Windows side of my hard drive? (I haven't backed ANYTHING up)
[01:57] <abk> the "NO ROOT FOUND" error was caused by the installer not finding one of the little tiny partitions Ubuntu needs
[01:57] <abk> you're telling it not to touch the Windows side
[01:57] <abk> so nothing at all should go wrong
[01:58] <schweeb_> fabbione: ping
[01:58] <Master-Tricky> abk: Okay thank you very much!  I'll go try it out right now.
[01:58] <abk> but I would boot into the Live CD and back important things up if I were you
[01:58] <abk> just to be super-safe
[01:58] <sampan> master-tricky  if you're scared about losing data from the windows partition, why not use knoppix to burn a cd/dvd (or two or three) to back up important stuff from your windows?
[01:58] <abk> come back and tell me how it goes
[01:59] <Master-Tricky> Well I partitioned my NTFS drive when I originally installed Hoary and didn't back-up and had no problems at all..... :-\
[01:59] <abk> you should be fine then
[01:59] <abk> as I said, come back and tell me how it went
[01:59] <mcrawfor> in evolution, I want to publish my free-busy info somehwere
[01:59] <Trinitrogne> Anybody ever have a problem with all the letters in firefox dissapearing? Sites I visit will open up, and the underline to the links are there, but no words. Images yes, any letters no. Even the File/Edit/ at the top is gone
[02:00] <mcrawfor> it asks me for a URL.
[02:00] <mcrawfor> what kind?
[02:00] <mcrawfor> DAV? ftp? filesystem?
[02:00] <Master-Tricky> abk: Okay, again, thanks for the help! I'll be back. :-D
[02:00] <hedgehog> is linux going to touch my system save drive?
[02:01] <Mrl33t> can someone help me to get Rhythmbox to play MP3s?  I can't seem to get this codec installed
[02:02] <DShepherd> Mrl33t: Go to System-> Help
[02:02] <Dreamglider> Smart Boot manager wont let me boot of usbcdrom :/
[02:03] <DShepherd> Mrl33t: use the starter guide
[02:03] <Ekibyougami> Dreamglider, can you set it as a boot device in your bios?
[02:03] <leetcharmer> hihi all :D
[02:03] <Dreamglider> Ekibyougami no the bios has no such option
[02:04] <leetcharmer> does Ubuntu come with iso burning software?
[02:04] <leetcharmer> I wanna burn Kubuntu :D
[02:04] <Dreamglider> leetcharmer use k3b its the best
[02:04] <Mrl33t> no... use something like Nero
[02:04] <leetcharmer> Dreamglider, does k3b come w/ Ubuntu or additional download?
[02:04] <Knowerrors> can anyone show me where an apt sources list is, I think mine is messed up
[02:04] <Ekibyougami> k3b is an additional download
[02:05] <DShepherd> leetcharmer: right clicj the iso
[02:05] <leetcharmer> why don't they make it standard?
[02:05] <Ekibyougami> because it is standard kde app
[02:05] <Dreamglider> its not that much to download and well worth the downloading time :)
[02:06] <leetcharmer> ah -- gnome doesn't have an alternative?
[02:06] <geno__> Hello everyone
[02:06] <alican> Hi ..
[02:06] <kbrooks> leetcharmer: gnomebaker
[02:06] <Dreamglider> yes
[02:06] <DShepherd> leetcharmer: gnomebaker
[02:06] <alican> Oct 19 03:00:44 mail postfix/cleanup[15880] : warning: connect to mysql server localhost: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[02:06] <alican> why is that ?
[02:06] <Kovecses> sup fellers
[02:06] <Dreamglider> Ekibyougami no i cannto set it to boot from usb in bios
[02:07] <DShepherd> leetcharmer: you can right click the .iso
[02:07] <geno__> How can I uninstall Wine? I made an error while installing and what to reinstall
[02:07] <leetcharmer> DShepherd, okies, I'll try that
[02:07] <Mrl33t> can't install wavepack:
[02:07] <Mrl33t> gstreamer0.8-wavpack:
[02:07] <Mrl33t>  Depends: libwavpack0 (>=4.2) but it is not installable
[02:07] <DShepherd> leetcharmer: while you wait on k3b or gnomebaker to download
[02:07] <Mrl33t> whats that mean?
[02:07] <alican> why cannot postfix connect to myslq
[02:08] <FlannelKing> alright guys, just upgraded from a fresh install of Hoary, this morning it starts... splash screen, then after mounting root is ok, it goes back to text, says cannot execute /etc/init/.rcS (or whatever the actual path is) then switching to runlevel2, and the other one (its rc and rcS, or vv), and now Im getting a bunch of 'metapage_read_end_io: I/O Error's, what do I do?
[02:09] <tamale> so i need some serious help...   i restart after going through the whole cd-install/setup process, and once i see the 'gold startup' screen, it locks up every time at the "starting hotplug subsystem"...  so far I've tried disabling everything possible under bios to see if that would help, but short of disabling hard drives and cd drives nothing's worked so far.. any other ideas?
[02:09] <tamale> the computer is a Pentium III dual processor server from super micro with 2gb of ram
[02:09] <FlannelKing> tamale, you might try disabling the splash screen, so you get more diagnostic information
[02:09] <geno__> How can I uninstall Wine? I made an error while installing and what to reinstall
[02:09] <geno__> How can I uninstall Wine? I made an error while installing and want to reinstall
[02:10] <Ekibyougami> dpkg -r wine
[02:10] <selinium> where can I get the msttcorefonts from#?
[02:10] <selinium> ?
[02:10] <kbrooks> Ekibyougami: no
[02:10] <geno__> Thanks
[02:10] <kbrooks> Ekibyougami: apt-get remove wine
[02:10] <Ekibyougami> ahh yeah
[02:10] <Ekibyougami> what they said =x
[02:11] <DShepherd> selinium: Go to System-> Help->Apps=> Fonts
[02:12] <selinium> DShepherd, Cheers
[02:12] <DShepherd> selinium: Go to System-> Help->-Ubuntu Guide->Apps=> Fonts
[02:12] <DShepherd> selinium: forgot ubuntu guide
[02:12] <selinium> np
[02:12] <DShepherd> selinium:
[02:13] <codehtmai> hey guys...i've been using ubuntu on my desktop for a while now, and i just decided to put it on my laptop (the laptop is a bit dated)..so far the only problem i'm having is with the wireless card. It is a DLink card, and ubuntu automatically detected it, and my router detects the card, but will not pick up the DHCP or access anything on the network. any ideas?
[02:13] <tamale> FlannelKing:  how do I diasble the splash screen
[02:13] <Mrl33t> im missing some of the things i need to install MP3 stuff on Linux
[02:14] <Mrl33t> like gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:14] <codehtmai> the ubuntu guide has good instrcutions on installing codecs
[02:14] <codehtmai> make sure your repositories are set right
[02:14] <FlannelKing> tamale, when you get to the boot loader screen, you can edit the command it sends, remove the word 'splash', you should see it
[02:15] <Ekibyougami> i changed all of my themes to look like copland OS from the anime lain
[02:15] <DShepherd> Mrl33t: Go to System -> Help -> Ubuntu starter guide - >Music and Movies
[02:15] <Mrl33t> thats where i am
[02:16] <Mrl33t> and it told me to install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:16] <Mrl33t> and i dont have it
[02:16] <tamale> flannelking:  by pressing 'esc' during grub?
[02:16] <DShepherd> Mrl33t: apt-get to install them
[02:16] <Mrl33t> terminal:  apt-get gstreamer0.8-mad?
[02:16] <defendguin> im trying to print to a network printer and all i get is CUPS server cannot be fount
[02:16] <Mrl33t> or sudo there too?
[02:16] <codehtmai> Mrl33t: make sure you read the section on installing extra repositories and have them set right
[02:16] <selinium> DShepherd codehtmai, have upgraded from hoary and cant find Ubuntu Guide....
[02:16] <Ekibyougami> you'll need to sudo
[02:17] <defendguin> i looked and cupsys service is running
[02:17] <bgalan> hello everyone
[02:17] <leetcharmer> has anyone figured out how to print w/ the linksys wireless print server in Ubuntu?
[02:17] <tamale> flannelking:  should i try recovery mode?
[02:17] <NaturalHigh> hello all
[02:18] <DShepherd> Mrl33t: sudp apt-get install gstr......
[02:18] <FlannelKing> tamale no, you just need to edit the command it sends, you using grub?
[02:18] <codehtmai> selinium: i'm still using the old guide
[02:18] <tamale> yes
[02:18] <Trinitrogne> Im just about to reinstall over an old copy of Ubuntu, is there anything I should be worried about?
[02:18] <Mustafu> What's the diff between different kernel 'versions'?  For example, x-386, 586, 686, and so on....
[02:18] <bgalan> i'm a linux beginner and just update to breezy, but i need help with suspending to ram and disk, anyone?
[02:18] <tamale> this is all just a default ubuntu install
[02:18] <Trinitrogne> Its dual booting XP/hoary right now
[02:18] <NaturalHigh> new to this Linux world
[02:18] <leetcharmer> Trinitrogne, why not dist-upgrade ?
[02:18] <codehtmai> selinium: just when dealing with repositories, change the dist to breezy
[02:18] <FlannelKing> tamale on the bottom of the menu theres a thing about editing the command, do that, remove the word 'splash' from the line
[02:18] <Mrl33t> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:18] <Mrl33t> is only available from another source
[02:18] <Mrl33t> E: Package gstreamer0.8-mad has no installation candidate
[02:18] <Trinitrogne> leetcharmer: cause my apt- is all messed up, somethign serious
[02:18] <selinium> codehtmai, I have done all that
[02:18] <FlannelKing> Mustafu, those are different kernals for different CPUs
[02:19] <selinium> :)
[02:19] <Trinitrogne> leetcharmer: something to do with my respositories and their keys
[02:19] <FlannelKing> Mustafu all the same code, just compiled for different proccessors
[02:19] <defendguin> leetcharmer, im trying to figure out how to print to a netgear printserver
[02:19] <leetcharmer> Trinitrogne, GPG key problems?
[02:19] <Mustafu> FlannelKing: k, thanks for the quick reply
[02:19] <tamale> ok i'm starting it with the splash disabled
[02:19] <Trinitrogne> leetcharmer: yeah
[02:19] <leetcharmer> defendguin, let me know if you have luck, I know some distros can do it
[02:20] <leetcharmer> Trinitrogne, ya -- GPG problems have been discussed here a lot, I don't remember what everyone's solution has been
[02:20] <leetcharmer> but I think it's somethin' server-side
[02:20] <tamale> flannelking:  i still see the splash
[02:20] <tamale> flannelking:  and it still locked up the same place
[02:20] <Trinitrogne> leetcharmer: its not just that my Firefox is messed up (no text ANYWHERE)
[02:20] <leetcharmer> Trinitrogne, can you reinstall firefox? remove from synaptic and reinstall?
[02:21] <gusto5> out of curiosity, anyone running ubuntu off their powerbook?
[02:21] <leetcharmer> (just offering alternatives to a complete reinstall ... as for me, I'd prolly complete reinstall ^_^)
[02:21] <FlannelKing> tamale I was just suggesting removing the splash (which, I dont know why it still happened) so you could figure out what was still working, and what wasnt, I have no idea how to fix it
[02:21] <Trinitrogne> leetcharmer: thats my plan, the whole thing was getting kinda screwy. I think my problems started when I shut my laptop as opposed to logging out
[02:22] <leetcharmer> kk, reformating and installing Kubuntu this time ^_^ bbl all :D
[02:22] <gusto5> ok leetcharmer
[02:22] <leetcharmer> Trinitrogne, breezy should have new hibernation features
[02:22] <gusto5> have some fun :)
[02:22] <Trinitrogne> cool
[02:22] <leetcharmer> Trinitrogne, so there shouldn't have been any problems :/
[02:22] <apokryphos> leetcharmer: why? There shouldn't be any reason to
[02:22] <fdelacruz> Hi Guys! Just wondering if my nokia software possible to install on my ubuntu machine and off couse all of the mobile apps that we are know tha is running on windos
[02:22] <leetcharmer> apokryphos, bored :D
[02:22] <defendguin> leetcharmer, i think it would have to do with adding a samba printer
[02:23] <Trinitrogne> As for reinstall, is it just going to reformat the partitions I already have and install on that?
[02:23] <leetcharmer> apokryphos, it's actually more for educational purposes :D
[02:23] <apokryphos> leetcharmer: just install kubuntu-desktop and spend that boredness time making use of kdelook.org -- far more prosperous/fun, I assure you 8)
[02:23] <Trinitrogne> And when its done, do I let it install GRUB into the MBR? Will my dual booting still work?
[02:23] <gusto5> if anyone is running ubuntu off a g4 powerbook, id like to be intrigued on battery life
[02:23] <leetcharmer> Trinitrogne, it should, but that shouldn't be a problem, unless U need backed up data
[02:23] <Hobbsee> leetcharmer: hehe...guess i did that earlier
[02:23] <azp> How do I install ndiswrapper with the internet?
[02:23] <leetcharmer> Hobbsee, what?
[02:24] <leetcharmer> defendguin, I tried that ... but it can't seem to access the printer part, I can browse the print server IP, but not actually reach the printer :/
[02:24] <Trinitrogne> Install grub into the MBR right? Or should I not install it at all?
[02:24] <azp> what is the code to install it?(I cannot use apt-get)
[02:24] <leetcharmer> I always did MBR
[02:24] <leetcharmer> but -- it's your choice :D
[02:24] <dmlinux> gust05 battery life in linux isnt as long as other OS , thats what ive noticed...
[02:24] <Hobbsee> leetcharmer: reinstall for the sake of reinstalling
[02:24] <leetcharmer> depends on your BIOS boot device if you don't do MBR
[02:24] <Pupeno> what package contains network-admin ?
[02:24] <Trinitrogne> leetcharmer: but is it okay to REinstall it into the MBR?
[02:24] <leetcharmer> Hobbsee, you're my hero.
[02:24] <Milk_> Good evening.. I'm having a severe problem with the breezy upgrade.. can anyone help?
[02:24] <Trinitrogne> its already there
[02:24] <leetcharmer> Trinitrogne, ya -- that's not a problem at all
[02:24] <azp> what do you mean pupeno, I am new to linux
[02:25] <gusto5> Milk_, what exactly is your problem?
[02:25] <Pupeno> azp: I mean what .deb package contains the program network-admin.
[02:25] <tamale> flannelking:  sorry, i'll try to figure out how to remove the splash screen
[02:25] <Milk_> gusto5, I'm using the apt-get dist-upgrade and its stopping on libofx2
[02:25] <Orborde> !tell Orborde about w32codecs
[02:25] <leetcharmer> kk, bbl all, reformat time!
[02:26] <Milk_> and now I've lost ability to startx completely
[02:26] <tamale> has anyone ever had problems at the "starting hotplug subsystem" point?
[02:26] <leetcharmer> and I'll KDE-look at the same time!
[02:26] <leetcharmer> :D:D:D:D
[02:26] <azp> pupeno, I thought that was installed with the installment of the os? if so how would it be relevant?
[02:26] <propagandhi> Milk_: what is the error when it 'stops'
[02:26] <Milk_> propagandhi error processing [package name[
[02:26] <Pupeno> azp: I am not running ubuntu but kubuntu, which doesn't install network-admin.
[02:26] <azp> oic, ubuntu does
[02:27] <Pupeno> azp: I know.
[02:27] <propagandhi> Milk_: any more information than that
[02:27] <Trinitrogne> For my laptop I know  I need the noapic boot parameter, I can't remember at what point in the install process I have to do this, and exactly what the command it
[02:27] <khermans> Where are the CD covers for the new Breezy pressed CDs?  I have a duplicator but want the pro covers
[02:27] <Trinitrogne> *is
[02:27] <Milk_> propagandhi is there a way to cut and paste in the CLI?
[02:27] <azp> so what would the code look like to install witt out an internet connection?
[02:28] <Pupeno> azp: I don't know, but apt-get can install from the CD, and if you have the .deb, see man dpkg
[02:28] <azp> see man dpkg?
[02:28] <Pupeno> azp: run 'man dpkg' and read/see it.
[02:28] <propagandhi> Milk_: I personally dont know of one
[02:29] <Vw790> hey can i use apt - get to install drivers for my sound blaster card off of its cd?
[02:29] <Milk_> propagandhi, it says "trying to overwrite '/usr/share/libofx/dtd/open.dcl' which is also in package libofx0c102
[02:29] <Pupeno> Vw790: most likely no.
[02:29] <Vw790> :(
[02:29] <azp> pupeno, yes I have the ndiswrapper done, but not the utils
[02:29] <Pupeno> Vw790: if there's a driver for your sound car it is very likely that it is part of Linux and it is already installed.
[02:29] <dmlinux> Anyone familiar with AmaroK
[02:29] <propagandhi> Milk_: my advice is to remove the libofx0c102 then do the upgrade and reinstall that package if needed
[02:29] <Vw790> the alsa that came with ubutnu inst working with it
[02:29] <Trinitrogne> how do i give teh noapic boot parameter during an install?
[02:29] <Pupeno> Vw790: and that everything on your cd is useless.
[02:29] <Milk_> propagandhi, I will try
[02:30] <Vw790> :S
[02:30] <Vw790> anyways to test?
[02:30] <propagandhi> Milk_: ok
[02:30] <Pupeno> Vw790: maybe it isn't supported, maybe you there's some documentation. If it isn't supported, I'd recomend you to send a mail to the vendor/manufacturer.
[02:30] <shale> i'm selling this "web developer" a computer but i dont have Windows to sell so i stuck ubuntu on it and am styling it out... question: is there some dreamweaver-like web design software i can apt-get ?
[02:30] <Aven> 'lo
[02:30] <Pupeno> shale: try quanta, it is very nice.
[02:31] <Aven> I have installed Opera and the only way it will run if I go to terminal and type "opera"
[02:31] <athlon> shale, or NVU
[02:31] <azp> pupeno, who was that directed to?
[02:31] <Aven> question is... is there a way to put an icon or something for it?
[02:31] <Vw790> alsa is saying it is supported
[02:31] <Vw790> and when i key in there string its showing
[02:31] <Vw790> but theres no sound
[02:31] <Vw790> no matter what id o
[02:31] <Vw790> i do
[02:31] <DShepherd> athlon: I never heard of shale
[02:31] <shale> ok thx Pupeno and athlon
[02:31] <nicoal> are there any former undergrads here that have experience on arguing with professors? specifically, how stupid is doing such a thing?
[02:31] <Pupeno> Vw790: try alsaconf ?
[02:31] <Vw790> how?
[02:31] <DShepherd> athlon: is it better than nvu
[02:31] <Master-Tricky> abk: It worked!  Breezy is installed and Breezy even fixed a problem I had with Hoary in which my sound didn't work.  Thank you so much for the help!
[02:31] <ecobuntu> if i just want to install kde without kdm would i install kde-core?
[02:32] <ecobuntu> i am running gnome
[02:32] <Milk_> propagandhi, I removed the entire directory and its still giving the same error
[02:32] <sampan> nicoal, as a professor to be, i should tell you that it is usually unwise to argue with your professors! :X
[02:32] <athlon> DShepherd, shale is a nick whose questioned Ive just answered :-)
[02:32] <apokryphos> ecobuntu: why would you not want to install kdm?
[02:32] <apokryphos> ecobuntu: well anyway, on the install of kdm it asks whether you want to use gdm or kdm
[02:32] <ecobuntu> cause i want to use gdm
[02:32] <ecobuntu> oh
[02:32] <FlannelKing> alright guys, just upgraded from a fresh install of Hoary, this morning it starts... splash screen, then after mounting root is ok, it goes back to text, says cannot execute /etc/init/.rcS (or whatever the actual path is) then switching to runlevel2, and the other one (its rc and rcS, or vv), and now Im getting a bunch of 'metapage_read_end_io: I/O Error's, what do I do?
[02:32] <ecobuntu> i see
[02:32] <Vw790> how do i config alsa?
[02:32] <DShepherd> athlon: allhh silly me
[02:32] <nicoal> sampan, ah, perfect insight, thanks :)
[02:32] <azp> pupeno, I have done dpkg -i to the ndiswrapper file, but how do I install the utils, without using apt-get, because I have no iternet until I install the driver with ndiswrapper
[02:32] <ecobuntu> so i should probably just
[02:32] <Pupeno> can anybody please tell me what package contains network-admin ? or where can I get some meaninful log of why my hand-configured wifi (that used to work on Gentoo) is not working ?
[02:32] <Versed> all the kde aps will show in gnome.
[02:32] <sampan> nicoal, quite welcome!  ;D
[02:32] <apokryphos> ecobuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:32] <ecobuntu> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:32] <ecobuntu> ha ha
[02:32] <ecobuntu> you bet me to it
[02:33] <propagandhi> Milk_: you dont remove the directory, you uninstall the package
[02:33] <Pupeno> azp: if it is a deb, dpkg -i. If it is not, get the deb.
[02:33] <propagandhi> not positive on the command at present
[02:33] <Milk_> propagandhi, it won't let me.. tells me to run apt-get -f install
[02:33] <ecobuntu> anyone know how large kde is?  i.e. how many more megabits it would take up?
[02:33] <Pupeno> ecobuntu: when you try to install it, it'll tell you.
[02:33] <apokryphos> ecobuntu: a couple hundred I'd guess at. You can see before installing -- it will tell you
[02:33] <sampan> ecobuntu  when i apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop it was couple hundred megs or nearly so
[02:34] <Vw790> wait did i juz read that a professor didnt like the thought of a student argueing?
[02:34] <azp> I already dpkg -i the file
[02:34] <propagandhi> Milk_: ok run that apt-get -f install
[02:34] <apokryphos> ecobuntu: best couple hundred megs you'll ever use up ;-)
[02:34] <FlannelKing> ecobuntu, if youre using synaptec, it gives you a running total of MB at the bottom (what you have selected)
[02:34] <propagandhi> Milk_: and I will look at what else you can do
[02:34] <azp> I cant do the apt-get
[02:34] <Milk_> propagandhi, I did.. same error as the dist-upgrade
[02:34] <ecobuntu> one other question...when ever i run kaffeine it shows me the first-time wizard
[02:34] <ecobuntu> are you guys running kde 3.5 beta 2?
[02:35] <propagandhi> Milk_: ok, what if you just do apt-get install  libofx0c102
[02:35] <dmlinux> Gnome all the way !
[02:35] <ecobuntu> did i encounter a bug with my kaffeine questin?
[02:35] <ecobuntu> gnome is nice
[02:35] <ecobuntu> i like the default brown it's soothing
[02:35] <propagandhi> ecobuntu: i am running the beta 2
[02:35] <Vw790> what the hell is this apt-get install?
[02:35] <Vw790> been reading reading reading
[02:35] <Vw790> no literture on it
[02:35] <apokryphos> ecobuntu: #kubuntu exists too
[02:35] <codi-> where i find de uBUuntu for download
[02:35] <ecobuntu> i know
[02:35] <apokryphos> (better for kde-related-discussion)
[02:35] <codi-> whats mirros please
[02:36] <frank23> !tell Vw790 about apt
[02:36] <ecobuntu> about my kaffeine question?
[02:36] <ecobuntu> ok
[02:36] <Pupeno> Vw790: the command to install new packages (software).
[02:36] <codi-> new release 5.10
[02:36] <ecobuntu> anyone running irssi?
[02:36] <sambagirl> i have basic torernt question you only can download 1 at a time files?
[02:36] <sampan> ecobuntu  yes -- irssi is great -- esp. with konsole
[02:36] <ecobuntu> how do i join another channel without leaving this one?
[02:36] <Ekibyougami> samba, yes
[02:36] <Milk_> propagandhi, if I do that, it wants the -f install again
[02:36] <FlannelKing> sambagirl, no, you can do more than one
[02:36] <Pupeno> does anybody know how to configure a wifi card ? I can't get it to connect.
[02:36] <Vw790> guessing thats the easy way
[02:36] <Ekibyougami> well depending on the client
[02:36] <FlannelKing> ecobuntu, /join #kubuntu
[02:36] <sampan> ecobuntu  just type /j #channelname here
[02:36] <Vw790> never had anything that was easy to install :P
[02:36] <codi-> hiiiiiii
[02:36] <ecobuntu> ok
[02:36] <codi-> where i find de uBUuntu for download
[02:36] <Vw790> always been .bin files
[02:36] <Ekibyougami> with btgui click preferences, and it has the file list selectable
[02:36] <codi-> ?
[02:36] <Milk_> codi, did you try ubuntu.com?
[02:36] <FlannelKing> or, on most GUI clients, you can just click the #kubuntu
[02:37] <sambagirl> ahh ok i see thanks.
[02:37] <azp> hey pupeno, would you get me on aim?
[02:37] <Trinitrogne> Stupid quick question: linux uses ext3, right?
[02:37] <frank23> Vw790: try synaptic
[02:37] <DShepherd> codi-: www.ubuntulinux.org
[02:37] <Pupeno> azp: what ?
[02:37] <azp> aol instant messenger?
[02:37] <propagandhi> Milk_: thats rough, you're in dependancy hell, but theres always a way out
[02:37] <Vw790> dont know how to use synaptic
[02:37] <Ekibyougami> Trinitrogne, you can use severan file types
[02:37] <sampan> trinitrogne  that's one of the filesystems it -can- use
[02:37] <Vw790> ill juz keep using root terminal ;)
[02:37] <Milk_> propagandhi, and without a browser, I'm lost.. haha
[02:37] <codi-> DShepherd especific mirror please
[02:37] <Trinitrogne> What FS should I be using
[02:37] <Pupeno> azp: I know what aim is, but what with it ?
[02:38] <azp> It would be alot easier to explain the problem
[02:38] <sampan> trinitrogne  ext3 is a good choice
[02:38] <azp> I am very new to linux...
[02:38] <DShepherd> codi-: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ -- any mirror thats suits you
[02:38] <Pupeno> azp: you lost me.
[02:38] <Doclotus> I've loaded 5.10 and it appears to load GDM ok, allowing me to login, but then it just shows the background and nothing else. Where would I look to fix it?
[02:38] <azp> nevermind
[02:38] <langi> hi all
[02:38] <Vw790> azp: what bout aol messenger?
[02:39] <propagandhi> Milk_: hang on a bit
[02:39] <azp> never mind
[02:39] <DShepherd> anybody know a nice set of fonts I can use for firefox. The default ones suck!
[02:39] <Vw790> seriously
[02:39] <Vw790> what?
[02:39] <Milk_> propagandhi, I have little other options.. hehe..
[02:39] <Ekibyougami> DShepherd, i am using monospace
[02:39] <Pupeno> DShepherd: I like bitstream vera....
[02:39] <azp> I was asking someone if they could talk to me on aim about a problem
[02:39] <Vw790> having problems getting it to sign on ?
[02:39] <azp> because htere are no interuptions as like here
[02:39] <Vw790> right
[02:39] <Ekibyougami> forgot about bitstream
[02:39] <Vw790> here they ask for whispers
[02:39] <defendguin> have their been any updates for breezy yet?  im running accross a few problems
[02:39] <Vw790> and i doubt your going to get one ;)
[02:39] <azp> whispers?
[02:39] <Vw790> its like a private chat
[02:40] <Pupeno> azp: oh, you mean that! I don't use centralized/proprietary protocols (like aim's).
[02:40] <DShepherd> Ekibyougami: Pupeno I using Bitstream Vera now...still not pleased.
[02:40] <Ekibyougami> try mono
[02:40] <Vw790> Pupeno: your literture means lil too a noob but thanks for showing your understanding
[02:40] <DShepherd> Ekibyougami: mono for everything?
[02:41] <Pupeno> azp: http://jabber.org
[02:41] <Ekibyougami> thats how i have it set DShepherd
[02:41] <necator> Hi
[02:41] <Vw790> what ya looking for?
[02:41] <azp> ok well here is the full problem, I have dpkg -i the ndiswrapper-source file, now I need to install the ndiswrapper-utils, how do I do that without using apt-get to install, because I do not have an internet connection, until I install a diver with the ndiswrapper util
[02:41] <Vw790> other then one on one
[02:41] <trinitrogen> I set the ext3 to my / mount point right?
[02:41] <Ekibyougami> yup
[02:41] <sampan> trinitrogen  yes
[02:41] <beerguy> can you install vmware on ubuntu?
[02:41] <trinitrogen> rightous
[02:41] <necator> my third mouse button the scroll button doesnt work I know I have to edit something in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I am in there already but  I need to know what do I put in there?
[02:42] <gusto5> azp, download it on whatever computer you are on, and burn it or something?
[02:42] <Ekibyougami> beerguy, yes
[02:42] <beerguy> cool
[02:42] <Vw790> go to root and simply key in ./<name of file>
[02:42] <hai> hi all.  is there a graphical md5 generator and verifer for ubuntu  AMD 64 ?
[02:42] <sambagirl> wow torrent is better than limewire is like xmas shopping online :D
[02:42] <azp> yes but apt-get will try to download it so that doesn't help the problem
[02:42] <hai> i'm not a big fan of the command line.
[02:42] <DShepherd> Ekibyougami: how do you stand that?:) Bitstream Vera looks better
[02:42] <dell500> command line = god
[02:42] <langi> hi, ran ubuntu first ... why dont i have at least read access to my ntfs-partitions ?
[02:42] <Ekibyougami> i <3 the terminal
[02:42] <Vw790> ./ isnt apt-get
[02:43] <gusto5> azp, may i ask why you dont have internet?
[02:43] <azp> I do but wireless network
[02:43] <Ekibyougami> personal preferance i guess DShepherd
[02:43] <DShepherd> langi: you have to mount them yourself
[02:43] <necator> my third mouse button the scroll button doesnt work I know I have to edit something in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I am in there already but  I need to know what do I put in there?
[02:43] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell langi about ntfs
[02:43] <azp> I have like no cat5 cable
[02:43] <durt> azp: if possible, get the ndiswrapper source, gcc3.4, cpp3.4, and your kernel headers and put them on a disk or something - i think thats all i needed
[02:43] <windex> azp, your wireless dosen't work then?
[02:43] <azp> so I have to install the ndiswrapper to get even close
[02:44] <DShepherd> Ekibyougami: Does anyone know the font setting for firefox in windows
[02:44] <windex> ah ha.
[02:44] <Vw790> yes
[02:44] <langi> DShepherd> ok, so ... why desktop-mountoints ?
[02:44] <gusto5> azp, take it OFF Your computer and use the ethernet port?!
[02:44] <azp> how do I do that? I just started using linux saturday
[02:44] <Ekibyougami> veranda
[02:44] <azp> I have like no cat5 cable
[02:44] <gusto5> then...how is the computer you are using connectd?!
[02:44] <Vw790> azp: you running it on a laptob?
[02:44] <Vw790> labtop?
[02:44] <DShepherd> langi: Are you saying that it's mounted already?
[02:44] <azp> no desktop
[02:44] <Ekibyougami> i have like 150 feet of cat5
[02:44] <smgil> Hi
[02:45] <azp> I am using a windows machine
[02:45] <necator> hey how do i get my third mouse button to work? what do i have to add to the xorg.conf file?
[02:45] <DShepherd> Ekibyougami: ok...
[02:45] <Vw790> you have a wireless desktop?
[02:45] <azp> hooked right next 2 it
[02:45] <langi> DShepherd> no, i know what to do ... just wondered why there are desktop-mountpoints. when i cant use em...
[02:45] <flodine> help guys is there a way to remove the the name places and sytem in the menu?
[02:45] <azp> nooo, I have 2 pc's side byh side
[02:45] <smgil> I need declare an enviroment variable for JAVA_HOME, where can I do this ?
[02:45] <necator> hey how do i get my third mouse button to work? what do i have to add to the xorg.conf file?
[02:45] <DShepherd> langi..ok
[02:46] <Orborde> How might I go about converting a couple .avi files to Ogg Theora?
[02:46] <flodine> can someone help me with the tool bar please
[02:46] <defendguin> the freaking print config dialog box NEVER comes up
[02:47] <DShepherd> Ekibyougami: I just installed mscorefonts but I can't seem to see them.
[02:47] <azp> back to the point, how am I suppose to install the ndiswrapper-utils without an internet connection?
[02:47] <khermans> ANyone here run Drupal?  I can't find the settings.php configuration file?!?
[02:47] <DShepherd> Ekibyougami: Where are they hiding
[02:47] <DShepherd> ?
[02:47] <FlannelKing> azp, sneakernet
[02:47] <beerguy> vmware 5 download http://www.vmware.com/download/downloadBinary.do?action=downloadBinary&file=VMware-workstation-5.0.0-13124.tar.gz&pot=0&baseURL=http://download3.vmware.com/software/wkst/&code=WKST-LX-TAR-GZ&hashKey=&tranId=3992897
[02:47] <azp> ?
[02:47] <Doclotus> Just finished install of 5.10, but I can't get any xwindows session to work beyond the login screen. Where would I go to troubleshoot please?
[02:47] <azp> sneakernet?
[02:47] <defendguin> azp, floppy
[02:48] <FlannelKing> azp, or any physical medium
[02:48] <azp> oh I have the ndiswrapper-source, installed but I need to install the util
[02:48] <azp> I have a flash drive
[02:48] <azp> to use
[02:48] <azp> 128 meg
[02:48] <Ekibyougami> dont remember where it put the fonts
[02:48] <Milk_> has anyone else had problems with libofx2 in breezy upgrade?
[02:48] <khermans> azp, use your sneakers as the propagation medium
[02:48] <Orborde> Hm...Totem certainly likes to crash X....
[02:48] <FlannelKing> azp, download the package, put it on the usb, plug it into ubuntu, and apt install it
[02:48] <gusto5> lol Orborde. cant force quit totem?
[02:49] <DShepherd> I just installed mscorefonts but I can't seem to see them. Do I need register the fonts...or something like that?
[02:49] <eythian> anyone know what to do about this: There was a problem registering the panel with the bonobo-activation server.
[02:49] <azp> I CANNOT APT-ET INSTALL BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE AN INTERNET CONNECTION!!!!!!!!
[02:49] <eythian> I can't get the panel
[02:49] <FlannelKing> azp, youre on the internet right now
[02:49] <gusto5> lol
[02:49] <Milk_> azp, yes you can!
[02:49] <azp> windoiws machine 1 foot away from it
[02:49] <azp> milk, how?
[02:49] <Vw790> lol azp
[02:49] <loon> sheesh
[02:49] <loon> 500+ people?
[02:49] <Milk_> azp, your repos has to be on the cd or local somehow
[02:49] <FlannelKing> azp, you download it on your windows box, put it on a thumbdrive, WALK to your linux box, copy it to your drive, and apt it
[02:49] <brenda> can anybody help me? i am having problems printing w/ my HP Deskjet 610CL printer
[02:50] <FlannelKing> azp, 'apt' doesnt just work for internet
[02:50] <loon> anywho
[02:50] <Orborde> gusto5: Actually, I'm not sure what's going on.
[02:50] <azp> milk,what do you mean repos?
[02:50] <gusto5> Orborde, can you force quit totem? and is it with all your files, or just a particular few?
[02:50] <Milk_> azp, do you know what a repository is?
[02:50] <defendguin> maybe i should reboot so things would work faster once all my ram is taken
[02:50] <azp> no
[02:50] <brenda> the printer is found by ubuntu and it looks to be setup correctly, however it just does not print
[02:50] <Orborde> gusto5: I try to open a movie file in Totem, and POOF! I'm looking at tty1 until gdm restarts.
[02:50] <DShepherd> I just installed mscorefonts but I can't seem to see them. Do I need register the fonts...or something like that?
[02:50] <gusto5> Orborde, is that with ALL your movie files?
[02:50] <Orborde> gusto5: "Some" files. Not all of them.
[02:50] <loon> Q: I tried installing 5.10 today and got a /var is too full error.  This was a fresh install on a SCSI drive with 2x 3.0ghz duel core with 1 gig of ram.
[02:50] <Milk_> azp, hrm... thats where apt goes to look for things, you can set local repositories in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:50] <FlannelKing> DShepherd, if you used apt, theyre already registered and stuff
[02:51] <gusto5> Orborde, some of the same file type, or different?
[02:51] <Orborde> gusto5: One of the files in question works fine in mplayer
[02:51] <loon> Didnt know if there was a way around it.
[02:51] <Orborde> gusto5: Hang on and I'll do some checking.
[02:51] <DShepherd> FlannelKing: but I aint seeing them :(
[02:51] <azp> ok but, is the ndiswrapper util, in the ndiswrapper-source.deb?
[02:51] <beerguy> hmm.. cant uncompress a .do file
[02:51] <beerguy> im an idiot
[02:51] <Milk_> azp, in theory
[02:51] <azp> also what do I type in the terminal to change it?
[02:51] <Orborde> gusto5: Going offline due to evil movie death...
[02:51] <Orborde> .
[02:51] <FlannelKing> azp you need the one without the -source, most likely
[02:51] <hobbes_> how can i get mplayer to install on my computer? i have ubuntu and synaptic doesnt see mplayer on my package list
[02:51] <kurtbec>  /msg NickServ help
[02:51] <DShepherd> FlannelKing: I'll double check the font folder just in case
[02:51] <fliplr> anyone else having a problem with bluetooth in 5.10?
[02:52] <Milk_> azp, you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list.. as I already said
[02:52] <gusto5> hobbes_, its in "add applications" isnt it?
[02:52] <FlannelKing> DShepherd, you should check to see where the package gets installed
[02:52] <azp> milk, do I type that in the terminal?
[02:52] <DShepherd> FlannelKing: ok
[02:52] <brenda> does anybody have any ideas why it does not print?? it looks to be isntalled fine.
[02:52] <vinboy> 123
[02:52] <FlannelKing> Milk_, he can just install it as a single file, no need to update source lists
[02:52] <Milk_> azp, me thinks this might be a little over your head
[02:52] <brenda> under properties it says : Ready: Printer not connected; will retry in 30 seconds...
[02:53] <brenda> however it is connected and on
[02:53] <gusto5> brenda, what printer?
[02:53] <Ron_o> I'd like to know if someone can help me with my cd-r problems.
[02:53] <brenda> hp deskjet 610CL
[02:53] <defendguin> gnome-cups-manager appears to hang
[02:53] <gusto5> were the drivers there by default?
[02:53] <fliplr> gnome-obex-server (bluetooth file transfer) gives "Unable to initialize OBEX source" on the command line
[02:53] <Ron_o> I've got the ubuntu iso, but my cd-r is on the blink.
[02:53] <gusto5> brenda, where the drivers there by default?
[02:53] <defendguin> going on 5 min and still no sign of it
[02:53] <brenda> yes
[02:53] <Milk_> propagandhi, any luck yet?
[02:53] <hobbes_> mplayer is in add applications but its grayed out. and it says its not available when i try to install it
[02:53] <azp> milk I typed sudo /etc/apt/source.list and it came up with nothing
[02:53] <hill0703> Can someone explain how I can search for files and folders on my computer.  I've tried "find ~ filename" and it doesn't find the files even though I know they exist.  What am I doing wrong?
[02:53] <defendguin> the process is still running
[02:53] <fliplr> looks like it has something todo with the upgrade to gnome 2.10
[02:54] <Milk_> sources.list is a file.. not a program
[02:54] <gusto5> brenda, im not quite sure. have you printed through it before?
[02:54] <apokryphos> hill0703: use locate command
[02:54] <durt> once again: (get this stuff at packages.ubuntu.org) azp: if possible, get the ndiswrapper source, gcc3.4, cpp3.4, and your kernel headers and put them on a disk or something - i think thats all i needed
[02:54] <gusto5> Orborde
[02:54] <sampan> hill0703  have you tried "locate <filename>"?
[02:54] <gusto5> have you tried killing the task?
[02:54] <Orborde> gusto5: Okay, it's totem's fault.
[02:54] <Orborde> gusto5: It crashes whenever I run it.
[02:54] <necator> hey how do i get my third mouse button to work? what do i have to add to the xorg.conf file?
[02:54] <gusto5> Orborde, does TOTEM crash? or X?
[02:54] <brenda> gistp5: ubuntu picked it right up and it says its working, except for that status thing after it says ready
[02:54] <Orborde> gusto5: No matter what I put in.
[02:54] <brenda> no errors though or anything
[02:54] <gusto5> Orborde, next time that happens to to applications > system tooks > system moniter
[02:54] <azp> usr/share/man/man5/source.list.5.gz?
[02:55] <gusto5> Orborde, try killing it from there?
[02:55] <brenda> i have uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers twise now
[02:55] <Orborde> gusto5: I don't know. I think X/GDM is going down, as I run totem, and then I'm looking at a console login screen until GDM restarts and I get to log in again./
[02:55] <fliplr> the bluetooth manager finds my phone
[02:55] <Aven> help!
[02:55] <fliplr> but nothing else works
[02:55] <Aven> I installed kvirc
[02:55] <gusto5> brenda, im not sure, but it could be your printer. i have the same problem, and have had it for half a year.
[02:55] <Aven> the only way I figured how to lunch the program is by typing "kvirc" on terminal
[02:55] <Aven> but when I close terminal, the program closes as well
[02:55] <Aven> where can I find the program icon?
[02:55] <apokryphos> Aven: alt+f2 -> kvirc
[02:56] <gusto5> Orborde, that's VERY unusual...try removing and installing totem?
[02:56] <ubuntunewbie2> how do you install breezy for old machines ? (I Remember sombeody suggested a server install) I am installing it on a pentium 2 - 300 mhz,. 64 mb ram system
[02:56] <Aven> it isn't in the Applications
[02:56] <apokryphos> Aven: touche for kvirc though :P
[02:56] <Milk_> well.. it appears my help has left... can anyone else assist me with an upgrade problem involving libofx2
[02:56] <DShepherd> Where are the mscore fonts instaled?
[02:56] <Ekibyougami> aven, you can launch it via the run menu also
[02:56] <gusto5> ubuntunewbie2, pop the cd in and follow along?
[02:56] <echostorm> i have a biggie of a problem... I can install breezy perfectly up to the time that it finishing installing packages, then my screen becomes totally garbled and the system (presumably) locks... A restart loads linux but gives me the sam kaliedascope screen at what i assume is the start of the gui. Asus K8n-E Deluxe Mobo, Sempron Palermo 3100+, EVGA Geforce 6200 256mb, onboard sound/Networking. Any Ideas or links?
[02:56] <Aven> ah, thanks
[02:56] <Aven> but isn't there a way I can get an icon and put it in the desktop ?
[02:56] <gusto5> Milk_, did you install breezy of a cd?
[02:56] <Milk_> gusto5, no.. using dist-upgrade
[02:57] <brenda> gusto5: it prints in windows though so im pretty sure it works
[02:57] <apokryphos> Aven: gnome? Definitely... right-click or something, and make a link to the application
[02:57] <Orborde> gusto5: Do I need to do a complete removal? That results in some other stuff getting uninstalled, too...
[02:57] <dmlinux> How do i get rid of that ANNOYING beep when i backspace too far.
[02:57] <gusto5> brenda, same with mine :)
[02:57] <gusto5> Orborde, complete.
[02:57] <Orborde> gusto5: Or can I just do apt-get install --reinstall totem ?
[02:57] <gusto5> Milk_, so do you have an OLDER version of ubuntu on a cd?
[02:57] <brenda> gusto5: maybe a driver issue.... do you know if HP has linux drivers online?
[02:57] <Ron_o> dmlinux: don't backspace so far...? ;->
[02:57] <ubuntunewbie2> is there an option there to install it as "server" does this mean that it will install fewer packages (Lite install)  because breezy is too heavy for the old machine
[02:57] <gusto5> brenda, i dont know. give it to google.
[02:57] <Aven> sorry, but where do I open gnome?
[02:57] <Milk_> gusto5, somewhere, yes
[02:57] <dmlinux> Har har
[02:57] <gusto5> Milk_, consider finding that.
[02:57] <dmlinux> i play music really loud and when it beeps it scares the shit out of me
[02:58] <Milk_> gusto5, reinstall is not an option currently, I really need to fix it
[02:58] <apokryphos> dmlinux: applications -> system tools -> terminal. Then go to Edit -> Current Profile. General tab -> general -> terminal bell
[02:58] <loon> ubuntunewbie2 : server install is so basic that there is no GUI.
[02:58] <Ron_o> other than that I can't help
[02:58] <smgil> #ubuntu-es
[02:58] <Milk_> gusto5, could I swtich back to horay repos and pray?
[02:58] <gusto5> Milk_, im not asking for a reinstall. do you have the CD?
[02:58] <Milk_> gusto5, yes, I do
[02:58] <Ron_o> then don't play the music so loud.... hehe
[02:58] <apokryphos> Aven: where do you open gnome?
[02:58] <gusto5> Milk_, pop it in and follow (NO, NOT a reinstall)
[02:58] <Ron_o> sorry, just had to.
[02:58] <Aven> apokryphos: yeah..
[02:58] <fliplr> hmmm, looks like its a problem with gnome 2.10
[02:59] <apokryphos> Aven: GNOME is the default Ubuntu Desktop Environment -- you're in it.
[02:59] <fliplr> perhaps the bluetooth utils need to be taken out of ubuntu?
[02:59] <Aven> oh, heh
[02:59] <Orborde> gusto5: reinstalled totem-xine (which may actually be the problem) and testing now...
[02:59] <durt> ubuntunewbie2: on my P2 (on it now), i installed hoary normally, then upgraded to breezy and installed xfce - but an even lighter WM might work even better
[02:59] <azp> milk, there is no way possible for me to use the ndiswrapper-utils in cd, because it by itself not in the deb, does not exist for download?
[02:59] <dmlinux> apokryphos THANK YOU !
[02:59] <ubuntunewbie2> loon: oh ok because somebody before suggested that I do a server install in order to make it run  for old machines because installing breezy in old machines is soo slow then he said I should install xubuntu ? or something like that. How do you do that again ?
[02:59] <Aven> ok, well how do I make a link to the application? :P
[03:00] <gusto5> azp, probably if its on one of ubuntu's cds.
[03:00] <apokryphos> Aven: if you're just starting out it's probably my duty to recommend that you try out the competition -- KDE :P
[03:00] <DShepherd> ok..I just needed to restart my browswer
[03:00] <azp> gusto5, why would they put it on a cd, and not install it?
[03:00] <gusto5> azp, because its not a necessity?! :P
[03:00] <brenda> gust5: i am looking currently, ill let u know if i find anything
[03:00] <loon> xbuntu?
[03:00] <loon> er
[03:00] <gusto5> brenda, alright. hopefully you dont end up like me :)
[03:00] <loon> xubuntu newbie?
[03:00] <azp> gusto5, how would I find it?
[03:01] <Orborde> gusto5: It was apparently totem-xine's fault. I just installed it today. Installing totem-gstreamer fixed the crashulating.
[03:01] <ubuntunewbie2> cause I installed breezy  first took me about an hour or more. It operatd normally. Then when I rebooted the next day I could not even get into the log in screen. The system frooze. Probably because I had a very slow comp and breezy was too heavy so I asked if I can install it lite
[03:01] <loon> ubuntunewbie2: I mean... if its an older system, try to go with something a little bit more friend on an older system.
[03:01] <gusto5> azp, pop it in, in synaptic add a cd-rom, then sudo apt-get install your thing and see what happens
[03:01] <loon> ubuntunewbie2 : how old is the computer, or what is the specs.
[03:01] <ubuntunewbie2> yeah xubuntu. Somebody said download xubuntu. THen others said you can't download xubuntu I'm a bit confused
[03:01] <Aven> apokryphos: whatever that means, thank you
[03:02] <ubuntunewbie2> loon: 300 mhz, 64 mb RAM
[03:02] <gusto5> Orborde, glad to know thats alll there is :)
[03:02] <jmworx> Just installed Ubunto on my new D810 machine and for some reason now it feels like a 486
[03:02] <azp> what do you mean by add a cdrom in synaptic? remember I am very new to linux
[03:02] <apokryphos> Aven: a good place to start is on the wiki, if you're new: http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:02] <loon> ubuntunewbie2 : hrmm.. I had someone ask me this question a while back, and I just recommend another distro.
[03:02] <jmworx>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[03:02] <jmworx> Mem:       1036552      73868     962684          0        272      16780
[03:02] <jmworx> -/+ buffers/cache:      56816     979736
[03:02] <jmworx> Swap:      2097144     149704    1947440
[03:02] <durt> ubuntunewbie2: boot up in recovery mode and apt get xfce4, which is significantly faster than gnome, yet still easy to use
[03:02] <loon> ubuntunewbie2 : but I dont know personally.  Try the server install, but there is no X. So you would have to install X.
[03:03] <Orborde> gusto5: That still doesn't solve my unable-to-play wmv files problem, sadly.
[03:03] <loon> but I would try fluxbox or something like weight as a windows manager
[03:03] <gusto5> azp, do you hvae a breezy cd?
[03:03] <azp> yes in the machine
[03:03] <apokryphos> jmcnaught: do *not* paste in here
[03:03] <ubuntunewbie2> what distro ? cause I tried BeatrIX (debian and ubuntu based too) it works fine on a alive CD setting but I could not install it properly on the hard drive, maybe still needs som e work in there
[03:03] <apokryphos> erm..
[03:03] <loon> ubuntunewbie2 : yeah what durt said
[03:03] <gusto5> azp, open synaptic mangager
[03:03] <apokryphos> jmworx: do *not* paste in here
[03:03] <necator> can anyone here help me with a problem i am having involing my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[03:03] <azp> gusto5, where is it?
[03:03] <azp> found it
[03:04] <jmworx> memory's all free yet it's feels like it's swapping like crazy
[03:04] <gusto5> azp, now go to edit > add cd-rom
[03:04] <sampan> ubuntunewbie2  mepislite worked well on my really old p3 until i took it apart, but it's kde, not gnome
[03:04] <jmspeex> Can anyone help me (jmspeex==jmworks)
[03:05] <azp> gusto what next?
[03:05] <ubuntunewbie2> Damn small linux has not GUI and I cannot find enough documentation with Tiny linux. BeatrIX has a very good documentation and runs well too as a live CD, but not when I install it on the hard drive. I don't know what happened after I clicked install on hard drive, rebooted, it couldn't get into the GUI
[03:05] <Orborde> Is there a version of w32codecs I can get for AMD64 ?
[03:05] <apokryphos> Orborde: no
[03:05] <ubuntunewbie2> mepislite, let me check that out
[03:05] <gusto5> azp, do your apt-get install thing you need
[03:05] <Amaranth> Orborde: They are x86 onl
[03:05] <Amaranth> err, only
[03:05] <jmspeex> Had to reboot the machine. The disk is constantly on despite the machine not doing anything (no CPU used, lots of mem available)
[03:05] <misfit_toy> isn't MPLAYER still called mplayer in the repo's? I'm trying to install "tovid" and I'm missing a dependency
[03:06] <Kruzr> I am starting to understand why people migrate to Ubuntu in droves.
[03:06] <x_or> Anyone here got iPodder working on Ubuntu?  I cannot install with straight apt-get or synaptic.
[03:06] <jmspeex> apokryphos: I thought 4 lines were withing the paste limit
[03:06] <gusto5> Kruzr, that can be a blessing too.
[03:06] <apokryphos> jmspeex: wrong :)
[03:06] <cevizoglu> Kruzr, you're lucky... I'm forced to work with mac  :)
[03:06] <misfit_toy> Kruzr, you could have been forced with Slack or SUSE
[03:06] <echostorm>  i have a biggie of a problem... I can install breezy perfectly up to the time that it finishing installing packages, then my screen becomes totally garbled and the system (presumably) locks... A restart loads linux but gives me the sam kaliedascope screen at what i assume is the start of the gui. Asus K8n-E Deluxe Mobo, Sempron Palermo 3100+, EVGA Geforce 6200 256mb, onboard sound/Networking. Any Ideas or links?
[03:06] <misfit_toy> isn't MPLAYER still called mplayer in the repo's? I'm trying to install "tovid" and I'm missing a dependency
[03:07] <Kruzr> aw, Macs are ok
[03:07] <Kruzr> c'mon
[03:07] <jmspeex> apokryphos: what's the limit then?
[03:07] <ubuntunewbie2> there's an ubuntu lite but I cannot seem to download it
[03:07] <gusto5> misfit_toy, yea....it still called mplayer.
[03:07] <cevizoglu> Kruzr, uhh.. I'm tired of macs after 20 yrs...
[03:07] <eythian> I jsut restarted gnome and appear to have no sound. How can I fix that (I do have sound overall, maplyer works, but gnome doesn't make noise)
[03:07] <misfit_toy> gusto5, weird, "not found"
[03:07] <azp> gusto, it says could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 resource unailable) unable to lock the adminstration direcctory(/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:07] <gusto5> misfit_toy, that's odd.
[03:07] <apokryphos> jmspeex: different ops have different principles; I generally wouldn't get annoyed from two lines I'd say
[03:07] <gusto5> azp, possibly...or your forgot to sudo
[03:07] <Amaranth> jmspeex: 2 lines is a bit much, depending on the contents of the lines
[03:08] <azp> I did not forget
[03:08] <misfit_toy> E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[03:08] <gusto5> misfit_toy, gimme a sec.
[03:08] <misfit_toy> gusto5, no kidding
[03:08] <Pupeno> Is there a repository that works ?
[03:08] <pschulz01>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[03:08] <ubuntunewbie2> loon: That's the problem with server install I dnt know how to install X. I am not really that knowledgable when it comes to commands, I am too GUI reliant
[03:08] <gusto5> azp, possibly, do you have any thing else opened?
[03:08] <Kruzr> ooo that reminds me
[03:08] <apokryphos> misfit_toy: you need to install, i.e. mplayer-386
[03:08] <sampan> azp, are you running synaptic?
[03:08] <Kruzr> I wanted to install Ubuntu on here
[03:08] <sampan> (perhaps minimized?)
[03:08] <azp> wait, it failed to open the cd driver in the syanptic
[03:08] <apokryphos> misfit_toy: and multiverse has to be enabled
[03:08] <azp> or read the cd
[03:08] <gusto5> woah... ok.
[03:08] <misfit_toy> apokryphos, let me try, I have multi enabled
[03:08] <loon> Kruzr : sok man.. im forced to work with windows... but by choice :P jk
[03:08] <azp> I have to cd drives, which do I use?
[03:09] <gusto5> apokryphos, that shouldnt lead to a missing package, but another error about how this is being installed but this2 is being installed
[03:09] <P8ntKid> What are some good addicing linux games?
[03:09] <loon> ubuntunewbie2 : I dunno. if it is install X11 or Xorg, but I would just do, sudo apt-get install xfce and it should instal X auto since it isnt there.  thats a guess.
[03:09] <apokryphos> gusto5: ideally, yes
[03:10] <azp> gusto5, the ubuntu cd shows up in the desktop but I can not add it
[03:10] <apokryphos> ubuntunewbie2: just X? Why don't you have all of default ubuntu?
[03:10] <misfit_toy> apokryphos, aha, I had multiverse off from an issue weeks ago, duh, thanks.
[03:10] <azp> wait it worked
[03:10] <defendguin> does the gnome-cups-manager work for anyone else?
[03:10] <eythian> what sound server does gnome use? esd?
[03:11] <ubuntunewbie2> apokryphos: Cause the systen is so slow. 300 mhz, 64 mb ram
[03:11] <azp> Gusto5, I sitll get the same error
[03:11] <P8ntKid> What are some good addicing linux games?
[03:11] <misfit_toy> eythian, whatever you tell it to
[03:11] <misfit_toy> eythian, esd, alsa, etc..
[03:11] <dooglus> P8ntKid: DROD
[03:12] <misfit_toy> P8ntKid, freeciv
[03:12] <gusto5> azp, you do?
[03:12] <apokryphos> ubuntunewbie2: I think that's less then you're required to run it, but it'll probably still work
[03:12] <azp> gusto, yes
[03:12] <gusto5> azp, what it is youre getting again?
[03:12] <cevizoglu> what's the url for DROD?
[03:12] <ubuntunewbie2> apokryphos: I did install it but it took me an hour and when I rebooted the system frooze I can't even get into the login screen
[03:12] <dooglus> cevizoglu: http://www.caravelgames.com/distfiles/DRODJtRHDemoSetup.run
[03:12] <azp> could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 resource is temporarily unavailable)
[03:12] <azp> and then
[03:13] <apokryphos> ubuntunewbie2: get a new computer ;-)
[03:13] <misfit_toy> dooglus, ewww!
[03:13] <gusto5> azp, what file are you installing?
[03:13] <durt> ubuntunewbie2: im telling you, mine works fine (though i have 400mhz :P), but if you want speed, youre better off with some other distro like slackware or such
[03:13] <azp> unable to lock the administration directory(/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process already using it?
[03:13] <defendguin> does gnome-cups-manager work for anyone else?
[03:13] <azp> I am trying to just get the ndiswrapper installed
[03:13] <TiMiDo> azp then kill the proccessor
[03:13] <azp> without inet
[03:13] <defendguin> please someone must know
[03:14] <ubuntunewbie2> I have a faster computer. I just want it to work in an old computer. I have several of them
[03:14] <gusto5> azp, yea...
[03:14] <azp> how would I do it ?
[03:14] <gusto5> azp, something IS using it...have you closed everything?
[03:14] <azp> everything is clsoed except the terminal
[03:14] <khafra> "find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver..."
[03:15] <khafra> But it keeps happening.
[03:15] <gusto5> azp, close terminal...log off, log in and try again
[03:15] <khafra> How do I fix that? fscking didn't help
[03:15] <mojo> ppl
[03:15] <mojo> hello ppl
[03:15] <SEJeff> khafra: Don't worry about that. /proc is a VIRTUAL filesystem created by the kernel
[03:15] <mojo> i am just wondering when dapper respo is opened?
[03:15] <SEJeff> khafra: That is normal
[03:15] <trinitrogen> In a fresh install of Breezy, how do I get to my terminal and root terminal?
[03:16] <khafra> SEJeff: I don't remember seeing that message in other distros when I used find
[03:16] <SEJeff> khafra: This is ubuntu, not other distros. It is not broken, but it is different
[03:16] <bimberi> trinitrogen: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[03:16] <Madpilot> mojo: have a bit of patience, Breezy hasn't even been out a week yet! ;)
[03:16] <bimberi> trinitrogen: sudo -i (or -s) in a terminal gets you a root shell
[03:16] <mojo> i just can't take it anymore, I want to break whole my PC with dapper rite now
[03:17] <azp> it says, ndiswrapper-utils is already the newest version, 0 upgreaded, 0 newly installed, 0 to reomve, and 1 not upgreaded
[03:17] <azp> does that mean it is installed?
[03:17] <gusto5> azp, nope.
[03:17] <mojo> anyway, thx u guys, this community is da best!
[03:17] <gusto5> azp, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper*
[03:17] <azp> so what do i do?
[03:17] <dmlinux> it is !
[03:17] <cevizoglu> azp, yes
[03:17] <Ron_o> I was wondering, do people in the linux community really want linux to be as popular as Windows?
[03:17] <NsOmNiAc> what is the URL to paste large blocks of text without flooding a channel for evaluation ?
[03:17] <gusto5> wait...
[03:17] <azp> gusto5, that is what I typed
[03:18] <dmlinux> no ron_o, then people would write viruses for it
[03:18] <gusto5> azp, ok. yea then cevizoglu is right. its installed.
[03:18] <azp> wait it said and 1 not upgraded
[03:18] <khafra> Ron_o: It's already hacked more often.
[03:18] <Villa> hi
[03:18] <ubuntunewbie2> loon: where do I download mepislite
[03:18] <gusto5> azp, that is something else in apt-get
[03:18] <mojo> IF Linux is as easy as Windows, I reckon ppl will consider move to Linux
[03:18] <khafra> What else is there to lose?
[03:18] <azp> yes gusto?
[03:18] <leetcharmer> sad day :( the whole reason I wanted to go to Kubuntu was to see if it would cause amaroK to work -- but alas, it's still broken :(
[03:18] <RockyBurt> hm, i'm trying to install a panel applet (gnome -- breezy) that keeps crashing, where could i see the log errors for that crash?
[03:18] <leetcharmer> it never stops rebuffering
[03:18] <gusto5> azp, what you NEED is installed.
[03:18] <trinitrogen> in hoary I had a terminal and a root terminal button on the top, how can I do that in breezy?
[03:18] <leetcharmer> infinite radio buffer loop
[03:18] <cevizoglu> Ron_o, I'm personally not concerned if everyone moves to linux
[03:18] <azp> ok
[03:18] <dmlinux> leetcharmer whats wrong with your amarok
[03:18] <Jeffrae> I have a question about ANSI termina emulation and stuff
[03:18] <azp> let me try then
[03:18] <azp> installing the driver
[03:18] <cevizoglu> Ron_o, but that's just me
[03:18] <gusto5> azp, ok.
[03:18] <leetcharmer> dmlinux: can't listen to any online radio
[03:18] <Jeffrae> Does anyone know a a telnet client that supports ansi graphics and so on?
[03:19] <Ron_o> cevizoglu: I'm not either. But I'd like to have a system I can use without too much fret.
[03:19] <Ron_o> you know?
[03:19] <Jeffrae> I am trying to log onto a BBS I use to belong to back in 97
[03:19] <Jeffrae> haha
[03:19] <Jeffrae> don't laugh
[03:19] <delgaudio> algum brasileiro? (some brazilian?)
[03:19] <dmlinux> leetcharmer oh.. im running gnome with amaroK, i love it , but i dont listen to online radio
[03:19] <Ron_o> MS is great on the front end, but the back end kills you.
[03:19] <johndarkhorse> !pt
[03:19] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:19] <gusto5> i second that, Ron_o
[03:19] <Ron_o> and linux and other OS are great on the back end but are horrible on the front end.
[03:19] <cevizoglu> Ron_o, I'm using ubuntu right now because it makes me more productive
[03:19] <Ron_o> I just want something that works adn is somewhat cheap.
[03:19] <cevizoglu> Ron_o, and annoys me less
[03:20] <leetcharmer> :/ I don't own any audio CD's, so I typically used amaroK for online radio w/ my older distros
[03:20] <gusto5> azp, if it dosnt work refer to this thread => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22645
[03:20] <leetcharmer> but in (K)Ubuntu it never works :(
[03:20] <leetcharmer> sad day
[03:20] <gusto5> leetcharmer, plain audo CD's?
[03:20] <Amaranth> leetcharmer: mp3 streams?
[03:20] <Madpilot> Ron_o: "horrible" grossly overstating... I was doing stuff last night - DTP work - that I could *not* have done on a Windows desktop, not without paying megabucks...
[03:21] <Ron_o> Madpilot: that's true. The money is a big issue.
[03:21] <Ron_o> there are many free progs on Windows, but most are just limited, demo versions.
[03:21] <leetcharmer> Amaranth: ya -- can't play those w/ amaroK for some reason
[03:21] <fedorared> NsOmNiAc: it's called a paste bin. There's several.
[03:21] <leetcharmer> Amaranth: just continues to rebuffer
[03:21] <azp> gusto5, when I type modprobe ndiswrapper into the terminal I get the error FATAL: Error instertind ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernal/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): operation not permitted
[03:21] <leetcharmer> hits 100% and tries to do it again
[03:22] <Ron_o> I think the money is the key. Not many of us can afford all these progs and clients to make our system really work.
[03:22] <DShepherd> hi
[03:22] <durt> azp: "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[03:22] <Amaranth> !tell leetcharmer about mp3
[03:22] <azp> yes I did sudp
[03:22] <azp> sudo
[03:22] <Amaranth> leetcharmer: see if the PM you just got helps any
[03:22] <Ron_o> most of us just steal the apps..
[03:22] <delgaudio> when i try connect in other server (irc.brasnet.org), i make it, but when i try enter in some channel not enter! what i have to do to enter in some channel?????
[03:22] <Madpilot> Ron_o: the app I was using - Scribus - is a professional-calibre DTP app, with no Win port and (AFAIK) no free Win equiv; and commercial DTP apps cost those megabucks...
[03:22] <leetcharmer> gusto5: the only other thing I could think of using amaroK for is playing music I ripped from CD, but I don't own any audio cd's
[03:22] <brenner> would upgrading to breezy leave my home partition alone?
[03:22] <durt> azp: then you need the kernel headers
[03:22] <misfit_toy> 4 lines is ok to paste correct?
[03:22] <Ron_o> I don't like doing that... not anymore.;->
[03:22] <azp> how do I get htem ?
[03:22] <Versed> Someday there will be an easy way to install wifi under linux.
[03:22] <dmlinux> ron_o i dont steal , i hax0r !
[03:22] <Versed> :-)
[03:23] <DShepherd> Crtl+Alt+backspace restart X...but the windows I had opened are close
[03:23] <Amaranth> Anyone wanna test the latest version of alacarte (used to be called smeg)?
[03:23] <misfit_toy> I have 4 dependencies to get this package installed and I never heard of 'em...
[03:23] <gusto5> leetcharmer, what file types are they?
[03:23] <johndarkhorse> misfit_toy: stick with 2 lines, please
[03:23] <misfit_toy> 4 lines is ok to paste correct?
[03:23] <misfit_toy> johndarkhorse,
[03:23] <DShepherd> is this how breezy works now
[03:23] <DShepherd> ?
[03:23] <Ron_o> I actually have tried a few linux OSs.
[03:23] <delgaudio> when i try connect in other server (irc.brasnet.org), i make it, but when i try enter in some channel not enter! what i have to do to enter in some channel?????
[03:23] <cevizoglu> Versed, actually, wifi worked for me w/ no configuration
[03:23] <gusto5> DShepherd, think so.
[03:23] <leetcharmer> gusto5: typical music shoutcast streams that come w/ amaroK
[03:23] <Versed> atleast under the PPC, ubuntu installs the wifi airport card
[03:23] <leetcharmer> I'm thinkin' .pls
[03:23] <misfit_toy> ok, then here's two:
[03:23] <Amaranth> delgaudio: /join #foo doesn't work?
[03:23] <dmlinux> gusto5 what is ndiswrapper ?
[03:23] <trinitrogen> uh oh, fresh install and when I open nautilus from a terminal I get "(nautilus:29018): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: "
[03:23] <misfit_toy> checking for yuvfps... no
[03:23] <misfit_toy> checking for mpeg2enc... no
[03:23] <DShepherd> gusto5: ok
[03:23] <azp> gusto5, did u see what I said?
[03:23] <Versed> it worked for me on my g4 450 under ubuntu
[03:23] <Ron_o> the problem came when I wanted more apps. I didn't know how to get them to work.
[03:23] <misfit_toy> johndarkhorse, heard of those?
[03:23] <johndarkhorse> misfit_toy: use a pastebin, and yes i have
[03:24] <gusto5> azp, apparently you need kernel headers
[03:24] <gusto5> dmlinux, probably not something you need
[03:24] <dmlinux> Ron_o ask in the channel if you have a install problem there is ALWAYS someone here that knows
[03:24] <Ron_o> I think ubuntu will be popular and is popular because it makes many of the choices for you.
[03:24] <azp> how do I get them gusto5?
[03:24] <dmlinux> gusto5 does it deal with Bluetooth as well ?
[03:24] <gusto5> azp, one sec.
[03:24] <Versed> cevizoglu what are you running ubuntu on?
[03:24] <gusto5> dmlinux, no idea. i dont even know what it does myself. i think it relates to wireless
[03:24] <misfit_toy> johndarkhorse, I'm installing "tovid" and I had it running on hoary, let me hit a pastbin
[03:24] <DShepherd> Ron_o: i disagree
[03:24] <cevizoglu> Versed, on a thinkpad, but previously I had a prism card on a powerbook which worked with no configuration as wll
[03:24] <Ron_o> that goes against the grain of linux.
[03:25] <Ron_o> DShepherd: it uses Gnome, and not KDE..
[03:25] <fernando> hi all, anyone have performance problem with glcore in 4.10 ?
[03:25] <Ron_o> but there's a KDE version, I know.
[03:25] <gusto5> azp, sudo apt-get linux-headers-386
[03:25] <DShepherd> Ron_o: I use Gnome not KDE either
[03:25] <gusto5> azp, im presuming youre on a x86 machine
[03:25] <cevizoglu> er ,as well
[03:25] <Madpilot> Ron_o: Breezy's Add Aplications is the easiest app-installer I've ever seen; Synpatic is nearly as easy. App installation in Breezy isn't hard
[03:25] <Ron_o> it partitions the HD for you.
[03:25] <delgaudio> when i try connect in other server (irc.brasnet.org), i make it, but when i try enter in some channel not enter! what i have to do to enter in some channel?????
[03:25] <Versed> yeah seems to work easier under apple stuff.
[03:26] <misfit_toy> johndarkhorse, http://pastebin.com/398185
[03:26] <dmlinux> durt what is ndiswrapper
[03:26] <cevizoglu> Versed, the thinkpad t series has great support too
[03:26] <DShepherd> Ron_o: and you can choose how it partitions...
[03:26] <azp> gusto5, it says invaled operation
[03:26] <necator> how can i enable my scroll mouse button i am inside my xorg.conf file and dont know what to add to the mouse section to give me access to my third button =( SOMEONE PLEASE HELP =(
[03:26] <Versed> 802.11g?
[03:26] <kbrooks> Poll: Who likes breezy and why?
[03:26] <azp> I am on a x86 machine
[03:26] <gusto5> azp, sudo apt-cache linux-headers
[03:26] <Ron_o> oh, I've no problem with wanting Ubuntu. I just need the fricking CD..
[03:26] <king>   
[03:26] <cevizoglu> Versed, yes
[03:26] <Ron_o> that'll be soon enough.
[03:26] <cevizoglu> Versed, the prism card on mac was 802.11g also
[03:26] <DShepherd> kbrooks: breezy is just easy, slim and works
[03:27] <Madpilot> Ron_o: no burner? You can download the ISOs if you're impatient and burner-equipped
[03:27] <azp> gusto5, it says apt-get-cache command not found
[03:27] <Versed> not really intrested on installing it on my pb, but it's nice to know.
[03:27] <gusto5> azp, not apt-get-cache. apt-cache
[03:27] <Ron_o> Madpilot: My burner is on the fritz..
[03:27] <Ron_o> I don't know why.
[03:27] <kbrooks> DShepherd: Easy how?
[03:27] <Versed> thanks for heads up
[03:27] <Ron_o> I'm studying the issue right now.
[03:27] <cevizoglu> Versed, but it isn't an internal card, so it's annoying plugging the card in
[03:27] <durt> ubotu, tell dmlinux about ndiswrapper
[03:27] <gusto5> !ubotu, tell gusto5 about ndiswrapper
[03:27] <azp> gusto5, it still says invalid operation
[03:28] <azp> I am the 1 who needs to know gusto
[03:28] <gusto5> azp, `sudo apt-cache linux-headers`
[03:28] <azp> with the quotes?
[03:28] <kbrooks> gusto5: apt-cache SEARCH
[03:28] <DShepherd> kbrooks: Installation, Admin (managing users) and it's easy on the pocket too
[03:28] <cevizoglu> azp, no
[03:28] <misfit_toy> need the following dependencies, they aren't in my repos evidently, or have been renamed... http://pastebin.com/398185
[03:28] <fliplr> is there a quick way to install the mplayer plugin in ubuntu?
[03:29] <fliplr> i've already compiled mplayer, works fine
[03:29] <gusto5> azp, it is `sudo apt-cache search linux-headers
[03:29] <johndarkhorse> misfit_toy: i'm not at my home box to confirm, but i believe some of those are in "mpeg tools" or some such pkg
[03:29] <azp> ok
[03:29] <johndarkhorse> misfit_toy: use synaptic and check
[03:29] <gusto5> thanks kbrooks
[03:29] <misfit_toy> johndarkhorse, thank you sir
[03:29] <azp> ok 3 lines came up
[03:29] <brenner> fliplr: plugin for what?
[03:29] <gusto5> azp, they are?
[03:29] <mickey> anyone know how to keep gaim from starting up on logging in?
[03:29] <flodine> can some tell me why artwiz fonts dont work in breezy snaptic install them
[03:30] <azp> linuxheaders-386 - linux kernel headers on 386
[03:30] <Ron_o> in ubuntu, is there a personal firewall, in the likes of Zonealarm?
[03:30] <fliplr> brenner: the mplayer plugin for firefox, sorry, should have been more specific
[03:30] <king>   
[03:30] <king>  
[03:30] <gusto5> azp, sudo apt-get install linuxheaders-386
[03:30] <Ron_o> I know that's not a real firewall, but it's seems to work well for me.
[03:30] <azp> ok let me try that
[03:30] <ciocanel> Ron_o, firestarter
[03:31] <fliplr> woops, nevermind, found a recent howto
[03:31] <Ron_o> thanks, just wanted to know.
[03:31] <durt> fliplr: use mozplugger
[03:31] <azp> ok
[03:31] <Ron_o> that's great, and the product looks fantastic.
[03:31] <azp> it is doing it
[03:31] <fliplr> mozplugger?
[03:31] <azp> it is done
[03:31] <gusto5> azp, now get the driver?
[03:31] <azp> now what?
[03:31] <Ron_o> actually, for all the complaints of these personal firewalls that I've heard, I've had no problems with them.
[03:31] <mickey> trying to keep gaim from starting when I logon to the computer, anyone have an idea?
[03:31] <azp> try installing the utils again?
[03:31] <azp> or driver?
[03:31] <cevizoglu> is there a tool which records all sound going through esd and saves as wav, ogg, or mp3?
[03:31] <mickey> there doesn't seem to be a preferences option for it
[03:31] <Ron_o> I turned ZA off for a few moments the other day and got a trojan.
[03:31] <durt> !mozplugger
[03:31] <gusto5> azp, yea
[03:31] <ubotu> durt: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:32] <azp> gusto, which?
[03:32] <gusto5> azp, whichever one you were needing earlier?!
[03:32] <azp> ok
[03:32] <DShepherd> Ron_o: on a linux box?
[03:32] <misfit_toy> johndarkhorse, that was DEAD ON, my thanks
[03:32] <Kruzr> so, I have a question
[03:32] <Ron_o> DShepherd: no, Win98
[03:32] <Ron_o> heh..
[03:32] <Kruzr> what is Ubuntu better than Fedora at, and what is Fedora better than Ubuntu at?
[03:32] <Ron_o> I'm old school. ;->
[03:32] <DShepherd> Ron_o: makes sense now
[03:33] <Ron_o> I've refused to upgrade to WinMX or even 2000.
[03:33] <azp> ok I am still having hte modprobe problem, it still says operation not permitted
[03:33] <Toma-> Kruzr: fedora is more of a server/experienced user distro. imho
[03:33] <azp> yes I used sudo
[03:33] <DShepherd> Ron_o: why?
[03:33] <Toma-> Kruzr: ubuntu is probably the simplest distro out
[03:33] <Kruzr> Simplest to use, you mean
[03:33] <gusto5> Toma-, knoppix?
[03:33] <Ron_o> For one, my sister had WinME and I was helping her out with it and I was erasing her cookies.
[03:33] <sampan> pclinuxos?
[03:34] <johndarkhorse> misfit_toy: yes, one never knows who one is talking to, heh
[03:34] <cevizoglu> Toma-, simple != inexperienced
[03:34] <Toma-> gusto5: but thats live...
[03:34] <Ron_o> I tried to open up Inex.dat and it tried to connect to the internet.
[03:34] <Toma-> Kruzr: yeh
[03:34] <Ron_o> it's kind of creepy.
[03:34] <gusto5> Toma-, mandrake? mandriva?
[03:34] <Kruzr> also, I note I've found Ubuntu to be rather powerful.
[03:34] <Ron_o> I can't imagine how Orewellian Longhorn is going to be.
[03:34] <gusto5> azp, im really outta ideas, sorry.
[03:34] <DShepherd> Ron_o: WinME is scary
[03:34] <mickey> so what's the "ettiquette" in a chat like this where a question isn't getting answered?  Should I just keep reasking it periodically?
[03:34] <Toma-> gusto5: fine. its a peice of crap?
[03:34] <DShepherd> Ron_o: You mean VISTA? :)
[03:34] <azp> gusto5, know anybody else who might know?
[03:34] <sampan> mickey, yes
[03:34] <gusto5> lol Toma- :P
[03:34] <gusto5> azp, mabye durt
[03:34] <Ron_o> I really feel that most upgrades, after a point, are to manipulate you more.
[03:34] <mickey> sampan just didn't want to make people angry
[03:35] <durt> azp: do you have the kernel headers yet?
[03:35] <Ron_o> DShepherd: I guess that's what it's called now.
[03:35] <azp> yes
[03:35] <kevogod> Ron_o, Index.dat collectively caches your history of life on the Web.
[03:35] <Ron_o> I think MS changed it.
[03:35] <azp> it still gives me the operation not permitted
[03:35] <Ron_o> kevogod: yes.
[03:35] <sampan> mickey, sometimes people don't answer b/c they simply don't know or aren't paying attention.  spamming it every 10 seconds probably isn't wise, but every so often you never know who might just happen to see it :D
[03:35] <Ron_o> that's why I was erasing it.
[03:35] <Ron_o> WinME didn't allow me to do it.
[03:35] <azp> when doig sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:35] <kevogod> It is the single most evil file in Windows.
[03:35] <brenner> fliplr: in hoary, you could install the mozilla-mplayer package.  not sure if there's a new method in brezy
[03:35] <mickey> sampan sage advice :-)
[03:35] <Ron_o> that's creepy, no?
[03:35] <kevogod> file(s)
[03:36] <azp> durt, do you have aim?
[03:36] <Burgundavia> brenner, breezy ships a totem plugin, you just need to tell totem about the codecs
[03:36] <Ron_o> I know kevogod, I've been battling windows now for 7 years.
[03:36] <durt> i have gaim, azp
[03:36] <Ron_o> I can spend hours clearing things that I don't like.
[03:36] <gusto5> Burgundavia, how does one do that?
[03:36] <azp> ...will that work?
[03:36] <mickey> durt do you now how to keep gaim from activating when you login?
[03:37] <azp> try iming me durt, jcwedel12
[03:37] <Ron_o> in Win98, all I have to do is open index.dat, erase the information in the file and then save it again.
[03:37] <Ron_o> but not ME..
[03:37] <Ron_o> creepy.
[03:37] <brenner> Burgundavia: righto..i might just lurk for possible breezy-related questions. i haven't upgraaded yet. :)
[03:37] <kevogod> Ron_o, It is strange in ME, considering it still uses the FAT32 filesystem.
[03:37] <brenner> s/lurk for/refrain from anwering
[03:38] <azp> durt what do I do after I install the header?
[03:38] <durt> mickey, sorry ive never had that problem :(
[03:38] <mickey> durt you mean it doesn't do that for you, or it doesn't bother you?
[03:38] <durt> mickey, it doesnt happen for me
[03:38] <durt> azp: hold on...
[03:38] <mickey> durt, wow, strange
[03:38] <Mrl33t> i need to edit /ect/act/sources.list to add something but its readonly
[03:39] <mickey> durt, no wonder no body is answering the question then :-P
[03:39] <Mrl33t> how can i get around this?
[03:39] <DShepherd> Mrl33t: use sudo
[03:39] <gusto5> Mrl33t, are you editing it as root?
[03:39] <MartyFouts> sudo <your editor> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:39] <kevogod> mickey, Activating as in how? At your user login?
[03:39] <choy> ghjk
[03:39] <mickey> kevogod, yeah when I log into xwindows gaim just pops up, along with those help windows, that I'm getting tired of seeing
[03:40] <fdelacruz> Guys is there a problem with the repo? especifically this link http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates
[03:40] <kevogod> mickey, Try System > Administration > Services if it is at your use rlogin.
[03:40] <mickey> kevogod I just want a clean workspace :-)
[03:40] <jamesschend> Hello, can I get some help on upgrading to breezy badger?
[03:40] <Ron_o> I was wondering something about Linuxers..
[03:40] <Mrl33t> martyfouts:  whats the name of the normal text editor?
[03:40] <Ron_o> what happens when you get a .doc file?
[03:40] <Ron_o> how to do you view it?
[03:40] <inktaylor> probably gedit
[03:40] <brenner> Ron_o: openoffice
[03:40] <bimberi> Ron_o: openoffice
[03:40] <Ron_o> -to
[03:40] <kevogod> Ron_o, Use OpenOffice.org
[03:40] <DShepherd> Ron_o: Openoffice
[03:40] <Ron_o> openoffice will do that?
[03:40] <gusto5> lol
[03:40] <kevogod> Yes
[03:40] <gusto5> wow.
[03:40] <DShepherd> lol
[03:40] <brenner> Ron_o: or tell them they should be using PDF. :)
[03:40] <richard_has_spok> but just for an editor gedit
[03:40] <gusto5> so many responses for OOo :P
[03:41] <DShepherd> Ron_o: and much more
[03:41] <duncanm> anyone using a Dell 2405FPW here?
[03:41] <Mrl33t> ok
[03:41] <kevogod> It is actually OpenOffice.org since OpenOffice has trademark issues.
[03:41] <kevogod> :-)
[03:41] <mickey> kevogod not in services...
[03:41] <jamesschend> I found these instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[03:41] <gusto5> yep
[03:41] <gusto5> OOo
[03:41] <gusto5> :)
[03:41] <Ron_o> how about sending something so someone else can open?
[03:41] <Ron_o> LOL...
[03:41] <brenner> Ron_o: so do other free word processors iirc
[03:41] <gusto5> seriously
[03:41] <gusto5> OOo
[03:41] <jamesschend> And I'm stuck on the first step.  Other than mozilla and firefox, how do I tell which packages conflict?
[03:41] <durt> azp:you want me to aim you?
[03:41] <azp> yes please
[03:41] <Ron_o> the problem is people *do not* want to use too many progs.
[03:42] <OsirisX> Can anyone please provide me some guidance on ubuntu amd64 flash?
[03:42] <Amaranth> Anyone wanna test a new version of smeg?
[03:42] <DShepherd> Ron_o: they dont have to either
[03:42] <OsirisX> can't get flash to work
[03:42] <bimberi> Amaranth: sure :)
[03:42] <kevogod> Amaranth, Sure.
[03:42] <Mrl33t> i can't even read the file with gedit
[03:42] <Mrl33t> i get blank
[03:42] <protokol> yo
[03:42] <bimberi> Amaranth: unless i disgracec myself last time :)
[03:42] <bimberi> s/c/d/
[03:42] <Amaranth> bimberi, kevogod: http://dev.realistanew.com/alacarte-0.8beta2.tar.gz extact and run alacarte-0.8/src/alacarte
[03:42] <protokol> im in breezy and i want to open the system and prefrences in a folder view, how do i do that
[03:43] <DShepherd> Mrl33t: What you trying to do
[03:43] <mauricio> hi anyone can help me? I don't know where to find the Ubuntu isos
[03:43] <jamesschend> Is anybody reading this?
[03:43] <Amaranth> protokol: you mean those menus?
[03:43] <richard_has_spok> what do you mean?
[03:43] <Amaranth> jamesschend: yeah, but sometimes things get lost in the flood
[03:43] <OsirisX> jamesschend: what's up man?
[03:43] <richard_has_spok> just look
[03:43] <azp> durt?
[03:43] <johndarkhorse> jamesschend: as long as you are using ubuntu repos, you should have no conflicting pkgs
[03:43] <jamesschend> I just posted my question.  :(
[03:43] <MartyFouts> anybody know what config file i would use to duplicate the 386 kerenel that's on the breezy iso?
[03:43] <jamesschend> What about Firefox?
[03:44] <Chinstrap> mauricio, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/
[03:44] <mauricio> i mean i just installed breeze but i don't know where to download the rest of the isos (if there are any)
[03:44] <OsirisX> jamesschend: i did too man but you don't see me bitchin. they'll read it
[03:44] <jamesschend> Those upgrade notes make it sound like Firefox is a conflict.
[03:44] <brenner> mauricio: rest of them? it's a one CD distro
[03:44] <johndarkhorse> mauricio: there are no extra isos
[03:44] <Chinstrap> mauricio, there's just one iso, everything else can be automatically downloaded over the internet on an as needed basis
[03:44] <SAM_theman> how i install yum for ubunu 5.10
[03:44] <jamesschend> osiris:  i'm not bitching, I've just never used this program before and have no clue if people are actually reading it.
[03:44] <jamesschend> I just wanted some acknowledgement.
[03:44] <SAM_theman> when i try to install replay
[03:44] <Chinstrap> SAM_theman, yum?  That's what apt-get is for
[03:45] <johndarkhorse> SAM_theman: use apt-get . yum is a derivative of it
[03:45] <OsirisX> jamesschend: o yea its cool man i feel you, that's why i replied, that's what i figured
[03:45] <Amaranth> SAM_theman: ubuntu uses apt
[03:45] <jamesschend> So anyway, Firefox is ok to upgrade with?
[03:45] <mauricio> the thing is that i'm leading a school intranet and my internet access is very limited
[03:45] <sector10> does anyone knwo where to configure touchpad?
[03:45] <Chinstrap> wow, do I ever love bittorrent, downloading ubuntu amd64 iso at 713KB/s
[03:45] <fdelacruz> SAM try sudo apt-get install yum
[03:45] <mauricio> I use to use Debian
[03:45] <defendguin> Could someone please tell me if they can configure cups in breezy
[03:45] <fdelacruz> or use the synaptic
[03:46] <defendguin> cupsd is running but there is no web interface
[03:46] <kevogod> Amaranth, I have noticed that once you drag one Menu category into another one, there is no way to "get it out". When you drag it to the Applications menu, it goes there, but will not leave the category within the Menu itself.
[03:46] <mauricio> and there where many extra isos
[03:46] <fdelacruz> defendguin yes it can be
[03:46] <mickey> how did you all turn off those help files that come on when you login to gnome? perhaps that's also the key to keeping gaim from starting
[03:46] <defendguin> fdelacruz, please do tell me how
[03:46] <johndarkhorse> fdelacruz: yum is not in ubuntu
[03:46] <P8ntKid> What are some good addicing linux games?
[03:46] <djjason> I have a problem on my laptop. I just upgraded to Breezy and when I am using my laptop just running on battery it completely freezes. I cant move the mouse or restart X or anything. I have to brutally hold the power button down until it shutsdown. The only thing I notice is that the hdd light becomes constant like the disk is working but it does not sound like its doing anything. Anyone familiar with this?
[03:46] <mauricio> so there is another way to download in the "easy way" the rest of the programs
[03:46] <Amaranth> kevogod: i don't know what you mean
[03:47] <mauricio> _
[03:47] <geno_> Any way to get a free version of Cedega?
[03:47] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mauricio about synaptic
[03:47] <mauricio> ?
[03:47] <johndarkhorse> geno_: google for "cedega cvs"
[03:47] <SAM_theman> yes
[03:47] <kevogod> Amaranth, Say you drag the "Programming" menu into the "Debian" menu. Then drag it back to the "Applications" menu. It will stay trapped in the Debian menu.
[03:47] <leetcharmer> gusto5: I understand the whole 'restricted formats' rules and what-not, but, the online radio stations are able to be played w/ XMMS, so -- why not amaroK?
[03:47] <johndarkhorse> mauricio: look to your private messages
[03:47] <defendguin> fdelacruz, the web interface is not there despite cupsd running  and the gnome-cups-manager says it cant find the cups server even though it IS running
[03:47] <SAM_theman> yes there is
[03:47] <SAM_theman> no cvs is shit
[03:47] <geno_> johndarkhorse: and then I compile it?
[03:47] <defendguin> fdelacruz, that they change ports while i wasnt looking
[03:47] <Amaranth> kevogod: hrm, that's odd
[03:48] <kevogod> Amaranth, In the Menu editor program, all will appear as well, but it is trapped in reality.
[03:48] <defendguin> s/that/did
[03:48] <jamesschend> Anyone?  If I upgrade to breezy badger with Firefox installed will it, in the words of the guide, "stop the upgrade at a very inconvenient stage?" or not?
[03:48] <Amaranth> kevogod: afaik that was like that in 0.7 too
[03:48] <Amaranth> kevogod: oh, then that's a bug
[03:48] <kevogod> Amaranth, Yes. :P
[03:48] <mauricio> my problem is that i just want to download once to put the software to machines that are not connected to the internet
[03:48] <Amaranth> kevogod: I thought you meant _in alacarte_ you couldn't get it out.
[03:48] <DShepherd> has anyone ever setup hardware acceleration for there ATI card?
[03:49] <kevogod> Amaranth, The same behavior is in SMEG and Alarcarte.
[03:49] <MartyFouts> jamesschend: i've upgraded two machines with firefox installed and neither has had a problem.
[03:49] <kevogod> *Alacarte
[03:49] <leetcharmer> Amaranth: I understand the whole 'restricted formats' rules and what-not, but, the online radio stations are able to be played w/ XMMS, so -- why not amaroK?
[03:49] <jamesschend> Somebody should change those install notes, then.
[03:49] <Amaranth> kevogod: ok, so it's at least not a regression :)
[03:49] <jamesschend> That's really confusing.
[03:49] <jamesschend> Thanks for the help.
[03:49] <kevogod> Amaranth, heh :-)
[03:49] <DShepherd> has anyone ever setup hardware acceleration for there ATI card?
[03:49] <dabaR> DShepherd: yes many. have you read the wiki?
[03:49] <MartyFouts> which notes are you looking at?
[03:49] <fdelacruz> defendguin,before I try that printing using cups and it was a succesfull,wait I will try that
[03:49] <sizzam> is there a way to specify a fixed width for items in the window selector (taskbar) so all the items are always the same width and dont bounce around in size
[03:49] <jamesschend> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[03:49] <Amaranth> leetcharmer: xmms is in universe so it can come with mp3 support
[03:49] <kevogod> Amaranth, I found that out last time when I was messing with your alpha version. I had to manually get it back to par.
[03:49] <jamesschend> Step one, specifically.  It says to remove Firefox before upgrading.
[03:50] <jamesschend> And it says to remove "conflicting packages" without telling you which ones are conflicting or how to tell.
[03:50] <johndarkhorse> geno_: i'm not sure, you'll have to read the docs
[03:50] <leetcharmer> Amaranth: what does 'in universe' mean?
[03:50] <Amaranth> kevogod: at least you can just revert everything in this version to get it back :)
[03:50] <mauricio> ok, i see that I will have to do it with an ambulant HDD and download the entire repositories
[03:50] <Amaranth> leetcharmer: in the universe repository
[03:50] <DShepherd> dabaR: there's some instrutions in the Starter guide but I get a fatal errror when I run sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx
[03:50] <defendguin> fdelacruz, how did you setup your printer
[03:50] <mauricio> anyway I'll be around to help a little
[03:50] <DShepherd> dabaR: any cue why?
[03:50] <bimberi> Amaranth: hm, it looks like my uninstall of nxclient has left my menus in a state that alacarte doesn't like - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3321
[03:50] <MartyFouts> only if you have both mozilla-firefox *and* firefox, i think
[03:50] <leetcharmer> Amaranth: what's the diff from universe and multiverse?
[03:50] <SAM_theman> http://torrentz.burn.myvnc.com:5454/
[03:50] <SAM_theman> go to this site it ROCKS
[03:50] <SAM_theman> all the linux Apps u need
[03:50] <jamesschend> Well, they should tell you how to find conflicting packages in any case.
[03:51] <bimberi> leetcharmer: universe is for Free software, multiverse for non-Free
[03:51] <MartyFouts> true
[03:51] <jamesschend> Since there's nothing there telling what they are.
[03:51] <leetcharmer> ah
[03:51] <jamesschend> Anyway, I'm going to do the upgrade.
[03:51] <dabaR> SAM_theman: you should not do that. It is like spam, although I personally do not care, most ops mind it.
[03:51] <Amaranth> leetcharmer: xmms is probably in multiverse, multiverse is the part of universe where legally questionable things go
[03:51] <Amaranth> SAM_theman: Please don't spam/post warez links here.
[03:51] <fernando> hi all, anyone have performance problem with opengl in 4.10 ?
[03:52] <fdelacruz> defendguin, I use the printing manager,and it works for me
[03:52] <leetcharmer> Amaranth: so -- audio applications have different codec support? like -- one can have mp3 codec support whereas the other one that should, doesn't?
[03:52] <leetcharmer> like -- native support, instead of system-wide support
[03:52] <fdelacruz> either using CUPS or windows sharing
[03:52] <SAM_theman> ?
[03:52] <liable> what does the ppp network connection thing use? pon/poff?
[03:52] <Amaranth> leetcharmer: if one is in main and the other is in universe or multiverse, yes
[03:52] <SAM_theman> wtf u talking about
[03:52] <defendguin> fdelacruz, it doesnt here just crashes with the error it cant find the cups server but cupsd is running
[03:52] <leetcharmer> ah, ok
[03:52] <Amaranth> leetcharmer: usually the one in main can get mp3 support by installing an extra package
[03:52] <kevogod> SAM_theman, Do not spam sites. OK Thanks.
[03:53] <DShepherd> dabaR: Thanks...I'll go the the wiki first next time
[03:53] <mauricio> leercharme: anyway if you want mp3 in your ubuntu box use gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:53] <leetcharmer> thx :D, reinstalling Ubuntu again :p
[03:53] <fdelacruz> try to upgrade your cups
[03:53] <sector10> arrgh: anybody know how to configure touchpad?
[03:53] <brenner> fernando: what vid card? and what driver are you using?
[03:53] <fdelacruz> sudo apt-get upgrade cups
[03:53] <Amaranth> bimberi: bug in pyxdg
[03:53] <fdelacruz> or try to reinstall
[03:53] <Amaranth> bimberi: i actually think that's fixed in pyxdg CVS
[03:53] <dabaR> DShepherd: welcome.
[03:53] <sector10> !synaptic
[03:53] <ubotu> I heard synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:53] <redrose> how do i check how much free space i have in bash
[03:54] <brenner> redrose: df -h
[03:54] <dabaR> DShepherd: the bot knows most common keywords
[03:54] <bimberi> Amaranth: kk - i'm having a look and /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/nxclient.menu is a broken symlink - i'll try removing it
[03:54] <fernando> brenner intel mobile i915, dri enable, but slow
[03:54] <protokol> i remember that i used to be able to type "preferences:" into the nautalius location bar to get to the folder
[03:54] <sector10> !synaptics
[03:54] <ubotu> sector10: Syntax error in line 1
[03:54] <protokol> i cant do that now
[03:54] <redrose> ?what is a program that will tell me what services start with my computer?
[03:54] <brenner> sector10: is that a synaptics touchpad?
[03:54] <leetcharmer> hmm -- does anyone know why Ubuntu can't pickup shared network printers? other distros can
[03:54] <DShepherd> dabaR: Kool thanks
[03:54] <sector10> brenner: yes
[03:55] <sector10> brenner: sony vaio. i got windows opening by themselves on occasion
[03:55] <SAM_theman> srry people
[03:55] <redrose> ?
[03:55] <dabaR> SAM_theman: no prob, you did not know:)
[03:55] <Mrl33t> Why do I get this error when trying to install wine?
[03:55] <Mrl33t> CBase::AutoConf:GetWinInstalls: unable to grep /media/0 GB Disk (sdb1)/msdos.sys: child process exited abnormally
[03:55] <SAM_theman> :D
[03:55] <natezenmaster> can anyone give me a link to a tutorial or some kind of guide on linux, ubuntu, etc..?
[03:56] <SAM_theman> my dad said to sqay srry :D
[03:56] <brenner> sector10: it basically involves editing your xorg.conf file
[03:56] <sector10> brenner: ubuntu is not stable enough for this notebook or visa versa
[03:56] <SAM_theman> *say
[03:56] <kjon> natezenmaster: www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:56] <natezenmaster> I ordered a book on it but I'd like to get started learning right now
[03:56] <redrose> how do i check what services start up with my computer?
[03:56] <dabaR> Mrl33t: you are not doing it properly. what wine are you installing? from universe? that should be one line...
[03:56] <dabaR> kjon: do not do that.
[03:56] <brenner> sector10: oh, sorry....if it's just the one problem...hmm
[03:56] <sector10> brenner: I was hoping that ksynaptics would work
[03:56] <PovRayMan> i installed 5.04, then did apt-get dist-upgrade and now i'm on 5.10.  Since doing so I've had problems using update-manager.  I get authentication errors with the ftp, and then errors saying another program like apt-get or aptitude is running when I try to get packages.
[03:56] <liable> is there any docs for the network settings app?
[03:56] <kjon> dabaR: Why not? Did I do something wrong?
[03:56] <brenner> sector10: not familiar with it. what do you mean by wdows opening by themselves?
[03:57] <dabaR> kjon: read what ubotu told you.
[03:57] <SAM_theman> ok listen :d
[03:57] <richard_has_spok> is qemu pretty good on 5.1?
[03:57] <redrose> how do i check what services start up with my computer?
[03:57] <Mrl33t> dabar:  i got the "winesetuptk" and then ran /usr/bin/winesetup
[03:57] <SAM_theman> my dad has ubuntu 5.10 instaslled right P
[03:57] <sector10> brenner: if i even move mouse don menus, a program will open. maybe too sensative
[03:57] <SAM_theman> can he get 3d enable
[03:57] <dabaR> PovRayMan: did you read the topic? is it gpg or 404 errors?
[03:57] <kjon> dabaR: okay, thanks for scolding me... :P
[03:57] <PovRayMan> i gog gpg and 404 errors
[03:57] <brenner> fernando: i assume that's onboard, it's gonna be slow anyway.....but where do you get slowness? an app? glxgears?
[03:57] <sector10> brenner: the tapping is too sensative. do you know how to change that?
[03:58] <kevogod> SAM_theman, What type of Video card does he have?
[03:58] <PovRayMan> (sorry about not noticing, i'm still new to IRSSI)
[03:58] <dabaR> kjon: sure:) I know its like, not nice to do in public, thats why I said it as a fact...
[03:58] <MESCAL> does anybody had installation problems on 2 step in reboot?
[03:58] <SAM_theman> Ati Readeoon 7000
[03:58] <dabaR> PovRayMan: thats fine.
[03:58] <SAM_theman> (64)
[03:58] <Toma-> does anyone else think that glxgears tag is a bit silly?
[03:58] <brenner> sector10: yeah, like i said, it basically involves editing your xorg.conf file...but i'm not sure if there's a tapping sensitivity option. :)
[03:58] <redrose> how do i check what services start up with my computer?
[03:58] <brenner> sector10: /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics/README.gz
[03:58] <Amaranth> SAM_theman: For that card 3D support should work without doing any extra work.
[03:59] <SAM_theman> lol he gets like 127fps :D
[03:59] <redrose> how do i check what services start up with my computer?
[03:59] <kevogod> SAM_theman, 127 fps in what?
[03:59] <brenner> sector10: you can also google for someone else's file
[03:59] <sector10> brenner: thanks, I just thought they would have a gui config program like some other distros.
[03:59] <bimberi> Amaranth: The new icon selector is cool :)
[03:59] <Hobbsee> redrose: you can use "top" in a terminal to see what programs are running currently, not sure about at startup
[03:59] <dooglus> redrose: you look in /etc/rc2.d/
[04:00] <dooglus> redrose: the ones with 'S' start.  the ones with 'K' don't
[04:00] <brenner> sector10: most likely is...i just did it that way.
[04:00] <dabaR> redrose: are you using ubuntu 5.10 breezy? it has a services under System>admin.
[04:00] <Amaranth> bimberi: It's just a stock GNOME widget. :)
[04:00] <redrose> no, hoary
[04:00] <Toma-> redrose: you can use bum/rcconf/kcontrol
[04:00] <brenner> sector10: search the repo for synaptics
[04:00] <dooglus> dabaR: breezy's 'services' list is partial at best
[04:00] <dabaR> ok, then do what dooglus told you, redrose .
[04:00] <sector10> brenner: thanks, let me ask you are you using wirless?
[04:00] <fernando> brenner 3890 frames in 5.0 seconds = 777.983 FPS
[04:00] <SAM_theman> the site u gave me is for 5.04?
[04:00] <bimberi> Amaranth: yeah i know, a good switch imho :)
[04:00] <brenner> sector10: no
[04:00] <dabaR> dooglus: I find it ridiculous almost:) I mean, maybe to become a useful thing...
[04:01] <dabaR> dooglus: for new sysadmins:)
[04:01] <kevogod> SAM_theman, Where does this 127 fps figure come from? What game/program?
[04:01] <sector10> brenner: Im trying to find a good way to manage wireless connections. ive come from kde
[04:01] <Milk_> Hello again!  I finally managed to get dist-upgrade to finnish the breezy upgrade, but now I can no longer start X
[04:01] <Milk_> its telling me it "Caught error 11"
[04:01] <dabaR> SAM_theman: ubotu gave it to you, raed it.
[04:01] <Milk_> any ideas?
[04:01] <johndarkhorse> Amaranth: have you hacked a difference into alacarte today?
[04:01] <durt> i get 2 fps in bzflag :[
[04:02] <kkathman> Milk_: have you tried rebooting yet? and checking?
[04:02] <SAM_theman> well he doesn't play games
[04:02] <Milk_> kkathman, yes
[04:02] <brenner> sector10: yeah, not too sure sorry.  if you prefer KDE, you do know that you can install it alongside gnome don't you?
[04:02] <Amaranth> johndarkhorse: you mean is it different than the one i was giving out yesterday?
[04:02] <dabaR> Milk_: have you ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:02] <brenner> sector10: there's also kubuntu
[04:02] <SAM_theman> he just wants 3dscreensavers and a 3dprogram thats really cool
[04:02] <Milk_> dabaR, you know.. I haven't.. lemme try that
[04:02] <sector10> brenner: yep thanks. i may just select a few progrc. ams. ive had some issues with desktop switching kdm or gdm et
[04:02] <SAM_theman> i get 8700fps underslaky
[04:02] <dabaR> just enter through it pretty much, I do that, although, ymmv, what graphs card do you have? tell me after you try that.
[04:02] <SAM_theman> 10.2 :D
[04:03] <Amaranth> johndarkhorse: A _LOT_ has changed from yesterday.
[04:03] <SAM_theman> ok now my dad is having a problem realplay is not working?
[04:03] <brenner> fernando: yeah, have you tried something else? from what i hear, it's not really a good bechmark
[04:03] <SAM_theman> no sound and error
[04:03] <Ekibyougami> i have an SiS onboard gpu wee
[04:03] <johndarkhorse> Amaranth: then nalioth and aabot look forward to getting the latest URL
[04:03] <Ekibyougami> i need to get ahold of an ati mobility and a desoldering braid
[04:03] <defendguin> ubuntu fuzking stinks
[04:03] <Maikeru> ...
[04:03] <Milk_> dabaR, I just ran the reconfigure and still got the same error
[04:04] <richard_has_spok> go away
[04:04] <sector10> brenner: ubuntu was working for me better for some reason. kubuntu i had some issues.
[04:04] <kevogod> defendguin, Sorry, no refunds.
[04:04] <defendguin> kevogod, hehe
[04:04] <sector10> defendguin: why? whats wrong?
[04:04] <dabaR> SAM_theman: why use ? when not asking something... Tell us about the package you installed, and how you did it(the realplayer one...)
[04:04] <defendguin> sector10, problem with cupsd
[04:04] <brenner> sector10: that's interesting....i thought they have pretty much the same backend
[04:04] <defendguin> gnome-cups-manager says cups server isnt running sector10
[04:04] <dabaR> brenner: backend is same, just the desktop apps are diff.
[04:05] <MESCAL> hi boot problems with ubuntu can you help me?
[04:05] <dabaR> MESCAL: depending on how much info you tell us about it.
[04:05] <defendguin> sector10, but cupsd is infact running and i cant get to the cups web interface either
[04:05] <jackmacokc> can someone recommend a good system resource monitor for breezy *besides* the built in stuff?
[04:05] <brenner> dabaR: yeah, that's what i thought. thanks
[04:05] <Amaranth> johndarkhorse: well, maybe not a huge ammount, but one large feature, lots of fixes, and lots of extra polish
[04:05] <sector10> brenner: it is intersting, but I have tired and its a time killer. no wireless, package updating was not working and some other things
[04:05] <mauricio> MESCAL: Of couse shoot
[04:05] <defendguin> jackmacokc, TOP
[04:05] <dabaR> jackmacokc: terminal ones, ya, top like he said, and there is others.
[04:05] <defendguin> top is the best
[04:06] <SAM_theman> ok i am back
[04:06] <fernando> brenner i have tried all, various packages, configurations, and nothing. with 5.04 it work fine, after upgrade to 5.10 it is slow
[04:06] <SAM_theman> ok he instALL The .bin realplay from realplay.com
[04:06] <Milk_> anyone have any thoughts on this one?
[04:06] <SAM_theman> it didn't work at first
[04:06] <lsald> i just did a dist-upgrade and mysql is f'd up
[04:06] <SAM_theman> had an error
[04:06] <brenner> fernando: er, i thought you were still runing warty?
[04:06] <SAM_theman> like missing libs ++5....
[04:06] <MESCAL> ok i've installed ubuntu on the 2 partition where already there was win xp
[04:06] <SAM_theman> thats when i came on here
[04:06] <Milk_> lsald, have you tried removing and reinstalling?
[04:06] <jackmacokc> defendguin, dabaR: any gui based ones?
[04:06] <SAM_theman> then one of u guys said use apt-get
[04:07] <dabaR> MESCAL: you cant have two OSs on the same partition.
[04:07] <lsald> Milk_, will i lose my current DBs
[04:07] <MESCAL> but on reboot i see only a cursor flashing
[04:07] <Milk_> lsald, did you do a backup on them?
[04:07] <MESCAL> ok so thats the probb
[04:07] <SAM_theman> which ubout are u guys using?
[04:07] <jackmacokc> SAM_theman, breezy
[04:07] <defendguin> jackmacokc, top is the best one everything is just a gui front end for it
[04:07] <dabaR> whats ubout?
[04:07] <SAM_theman> *ubuntu
[04:07] <sector10> the new one
[04:07] <mauricio> MESCAL: Wait a minute, how many partitions you have?
[04:08] <dabaR> 5.10 now.
[04:08] <lsald> Milk_, that would have been smart....
[04:08] <MESCAL> 2
[04:08] <Milk_> anyone have any thoughts on why X won't start after upgrading to breezy?
[04:08] <MESCAL> no
[04:08] <SAM_theman> anyone are 5.04
[04:08] <natezenmaster> pls help; from ubuntuguide.org; guide lists various programs to install from install/update/download programs - but what URL is this linked to?
[04:08] <fernando> brenner i'm using breezy
[04:08] <Milk_> lsald.. well.... you might be out of luck
[04:08] <Mrl33t> can someone help me install wine
[04:08] <MESCAL> 1 for win and 2 for ubuntu
[04:08] <dabaR> SAM_theman: I used it for 6 months...
[04:08] <jackmacokc> defendguin: i see -- but i'm after guis...so any good recommendation for a gui frontend
[04:08] <mauricio> MESCAL: In the first one you have windows and in the other ubunto no_
[04:08] <lsald> Milk_, you have nvidia?
[04:08] <mauricio> ?
[04:08] <Milk_> lsald, yes
[04:08] <SAM_theman> does 5.04 have realplay?
[04:08] <dabaR> Mrl33t: sudo aptitude install wine, after enabling universe.
[04:09] <brenner> fernando: have you hit the forum?
[04:09] <MESCAL> right mauricio
[04:09] <dabaR> SAM_theman: ask ubotu, he told you how to ask him.../msg ubotu info realplay hoary
[04:09] <dabaR> SAM_theman: and, ya, there is. version 8.
[04:09] <mauricio> MESCAL: Ok so you installed from CD and it detected that you have another OS
[04:09] <sn> hola alguien de chile
[04:09] <Bicchi> My Firefox extensions are not updating?
[04:09] <MESCAL> yes,right
[04:09] <dabaR> sn: is that spanish?
[04:09] <fernando> brenner i find all forum, and not found
[04:09] <SAM_theman> o ok:D
[04:10] <jackmacokc> Bicchi: have you restarted firefox?
[04:10] <Mrl33t> thanks
[04:10] <sector10> brenner: thanks for the help. I think KDE is better for my notebook except for kubuntu. It has all the simple apps.
[04:10] <sizzam> could someone please give me the default Min/Max size values from the 'size' tab in Window List Preferences?
[04:10] <Bicchi> jackmacokc: yes
[04:10] <MESCAL> but i did something wrong with fixmdr
[04:10] <SAM_theman> also is there dvd for ubuntu?
[04:10] <mauricio> MESCAL: and told you to install grub with dual boot no?
[04:10] <Bicchi> jackmacokc: they screen just hangs there while it downloads.
[04:10] <bimberi> Amaranth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3324
[04:10] <Milk_> SAM_teman, yes
[04:10] <MESCAL> and now i cannot even make dir
[04:10] <SAM_theman> in apt-get
[04:10] <spencerk> where can i install a cool desktop widgets like the ones in aston for xp
[04:10] <Milk_> lsald, is there something special I need to do?
[04:10] <SAM_theman> becasue i don't see it
[04:11] <dabaR> SAM_theman: yes, on the web site.
[04:11] <Mrl33t> ok... i THINK i have wine installed
[04:11] <mauricio> MESCAL: Oh, that's other thing. I think you messed up with the MBR
[04:11] <erirlar> when i try to run glxgears it gives me no output, any ide? i installed the nvidia-glx drivers like it sayd in the wiki
[04:11] <sizzam> spencerk:  have you heard of gdesklets?
[04:11] <SAM_theman> www.gdesklets.com
[04:11] <dabaR> Mrl33t: good work, ever heard of #winehq?
[04:11] <spencerk> nope, thanks
[04:11] <Mrl33t> nope
[04:11] <SAM_theman> i use that
[04:11] <MESCAL> yes i've sayd yes when he asked me that
[04:11] <Mrl33t> but now i have ;)
[04:11] <SAM_theman> shits cool
[04:11] <sector10> !touchpad
[04:11] <ubotu> No idea, sector10
[04:11] <mauricio> MESCAL: so definitely you cannot boot GRUP
[04:11] <dabaR> Mrl33t: well, its on freenode
[04:11] <MESCAL> i think i've lost the partitions
[04:11] <[snape] > hola
[04:11] <Milk_> brb
[04:11] <jackmacokc> Bicchi: sorry, i'd ask again..i've never seen that before
[04:11] <OsirisX> anyone know how i can install skype on amd 64?
[04:11] <dabaR> MESCAL: aer you in windows, or ubuntu?
[04:11] <mauricio> MESCAL: Don't worry everything is not lost
[04:12] <MESCAL> win now
[04:12] <[snape] > hay alguien de chile
[04:12] <Amaranth> ugh i'm lagging bad
[04:12] <MESCAL> i hope
[04:12] <gusto5> hiya
[04:12] <gusto5> anyone know how to write a printer driver
[04:12] <gusto5> ?
[04:12] <mauricio> MESCAL: Do you have any knoppix around?
[04:12] <mauricio> MESCAL: Ok find it and follow these instructions
[04:12] <mauricio> MESCAL: Wtite this down
[04:13] <dabaR> does anyone know how to write a printer driver, thats a good one.
[04:13] <MESCAL> knoppix is a linux version?
[04:13] <MESCAL> ok
[04:13] <dabaR> its a live cd, yes.
[04:13] <Amaranth> bimberi: oops, that isn't supposed to get called for new entries, i forgot to remove the callback
[04:13] <OsirisX> hah. i can't believe he doesn't know how to write a printer driver. n00b.
[04:13] <Milk_> ok.. back.. still looking for help on X not starting after breezy upgrade
[04:13] <dabaR> OsirisX: :)
[04:13] <mauricio> MESCAL: First of all boot from knoppix
[04:13] <MESCAL> ok
[04:13] <dabaR> Milk_: what graphs card, I asked you.
[04:14] <mauricio> MESCAL: Then bring up a console
[04:14] <Milk_> error is : Caught Signal 11.  Server Aborting
[04:14] <k-0tik> milk_ are you on a laptop?
[04:14] <Amaranth> bimberi: the app should keep working though, right?
[04:14] <Milk_> dabaR, I must have missed it... its an nvidia gforce
[04:14] <Mrl33t> #winehq is shy ;) on wine usage, its says "wine PROGRAM [Arguments] ".  can a run a program off of my mounted windows partition?
[04:14] <Milk_> k-0tik, no
[04:14] <OsirisX> can't get flash or skype to work on my athlon64 hoary. :I
[04:14] <OsirisX> or java
[04:14] <mauricio> MESCAL: Write "su root" on the console
[04:14] <Hobbsee> Mrl33t: yes, as long as it doenst have to write anything there
[04:14] <dabaR> Milk_: have you tried going through the wiki page for nvidia?
[04:14] <OsirisX> or ati. :(
[04:14] <Milk_> OsirisX, got any more details?
[04:14] <Hobbsee> Mrl33t: i've run solitare straight off there before
[04:15] <Mrl33t> so steam/css wouldn't work? ;)
[04:15] <Bicchi> My Firefox extensions are not updating? The screen just hangs there and nothing downloads.
[04:15] <bimberi> Amaranth: yep, continues fine
[04:15] <Milk_> dabaR, I tried the sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, and got nothing
[04:15] <Madpilot> OsirisX: AMD64 doesn't work w/ Flash, I think. check the Ubuntu wiki, though
[04:15] <dabaR> OsirisX: ever heard of chroot?
[04:15] <mauricio> MESCAL: and mount the partition with ubuntu
[04:15] <Mrl33t> i would have to install steam to my linux partition?
[04:15] <mauricio> MESCAL: Are you following me?
[04:15] <MESCAL> yes
[04:15] <OsirisX> osiris@egypt:~$ sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.11-1_i386.deb / dpkg: error processing skype_1.2.0.11-1_i386.deb (--install): /  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[04:15] <MESCAL> writing down
[04:15] <dabaR> OsirisX: thats why you chroot.
[04:15] <mauricio> MESCAL: Do you know how to mount a partition?
[04:15] <OsirisX> umm?
[04:16] <MESCAL> i did it with ubuntu already
[04:16] <dabaR> I dont know nmuch about it, as I have a i386, but thats the answer people get when they ask that.
[04:16] <Hobbsee> Mrl33t: i'd say so
[04:16] <PovRayMan> dabaR: ok, I think I got update-manager changed from the US server to a mirror, I didn't get any gpg or 404 errors
[04:16] <PovRayMan> thanks!
[04:16] <dabaR> PovRayMan: $20
[04:16] <PovRayMan> sure just let me
[04:16] <PovRayMan> BYE
[04:17] <mauricio> MESCAL:Well, in knoppix is very alike
[04:17] <dabaR> hah
[04:17] <MESCAL> the problem is that i dont know if the new partition must match the older
[04:17] <dabaR> MESCAL: match in what?
[04:17] <ciocanel> I want to use fetchmail to get my gmail email to maildir, is there a how to or smthing like that for ubuntu?
[04:17] <MESCAL> couse i dont wont to lose all my files
[04:17] <mauricio> MESCAL: Don't worry
[04:17] <Milk_> dabaR, I just checked the wiki again, the command they ahve for nvidia cards doesn't work
[04:18] <MESCAL> :)
[04:18] <mauricio> MESCAL: You just said that you have three partitions
[04:18] <OsirisX> i have to do a chroot to install skype?? that seems a bit excessive. I'm a lazy bastard. Isn't there an easier way?
[04:18] <dabaR> Milk_: whats your sources.list look like? you can use pastebin.
[04:18] <MESCAL> yes ntfs ext2 and swap
[04:18] <MESCAL> no sorry ntfs ext3 and swap
[04:18] <Milk_> dabaR, I can't use pastebin as I have no X to cut and paste with
[04:18] <dabaR> MESCAL: that sounds proper.
[04:19] <dabaR> Milk_: /join #flood
[04:19] <Milk_> dabaR, but my sources.list looks identical to the one listed in the upgrade wiki
[04:19] <OsirisX> Milk_: that's a good quote man haha
[04:19] <mauricio> MESCAL: I suppose that the second one is the Ubuntu system and the third is swap
[04:19] <MESCAL> right
[04:19] <mauricio> MESCAL: So when you are in knoppix you must mount hda2
[04:19] <TylerE> Is there an ubuntu equiv. to debian-unstable?
[04:19] <MESCAL> hda2 ok
[04:20] <HrdwrBoB> TylerE: no
[04:20] <marcoaurelio> Hello. I've just given a course about Linux, using Ubuntu 5.10, and I got some errors in the installation. What are the log files that I should get before filling some bug reports?
[04:20] <MESCAL> hda1 should be win?
[04:20] <HrdwrBoB> TylerE: not really
[04:20] <TylerE> drat
[04:20] <Amaranth> TylerE: you can run dapper before it's released
[04:20] <OsirisX> damnit. siwtching over to windows so i can use java, flash, and skype. :(
[04:20] <OsirisX> see you guys later
[04:20] <dabaR> MESCAL: yes, if that is your first partition.
[04:20] <Amaranth> TylerE: but so far nothing has changed
[04:20] <mauricio> MESCAL: And in the console (as root) you must write "chroot /mnt/hda2"
[04:20] <MESCAL> yes dabar
[04:20] <mauricio> MESCAL: Without the quotes of course
[04:21] <MESCAL> ok..writing...
[04:21] <brenner> marcoaurelio: that must've been embarrassing. :)
[04:21] <MESCAL> ok
[04:21] <marcoaurelio> brenner: actually, I really liked that! I mean, when there are errors, you have to fiddle with commands, students get pretty interested in those things
[04:21] <mauricio> MESCAL: Try to find a knoppix  > 3.7
[04:22] <mauricio> MESCAL: Ah one thing when you write "su root"
[04:22] <k-0tik> I'm tryin to burn my ubuntu 5.10, But i don't have anything that'll burn an iso, anybody know of anyfreeware that'll burn mor than 300mb?
[04:22] <mauricio> MESCAL: It asks for a password
[04:22] <mauricio> MESCAL: Just press enter cause in knoppix there is no root password
[04:22] <dabaR> marcoaurelio: well, what are the errors, and so on?
[04:22] <MESCAL> ok
[04:23] <starscalling> um
[04:23] <os2mac> K-otik: goto to google and search for open source ISO burner.
[04:23] <marcoaurelio> the students reaction was: "buy, that was awful, terrible, but was great, I've never learn so much about Linux!"
[04:23] <gusto5> anyone good with printers?
[04:23] <starscalling> is anyone else getting Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release.gpg
[04:23] <starscalling>   Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[04:23] <starscalling>  error?
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> k-0tik, you mean in windows ?
[04:23] <mauricio> MESCAL: Well, next step
[04:23] <MESCAL> mauricio i have a live version but i dont know if is knoppix ,do you think could it work anyway?
[04:23] <marcoaurelio> mostly minor errors, like missing translations, a serial mouse not detected, sometimes the cd is eject before rebooting (sometimes not)
[04:24] <dabaR> starscalling: paste your sources.list file to pastebin.
[04:24] <johndarkhorse> starscalling: a resolve error means it cant see the archive
[04:24] <starscalling> yeah
[04:24] <brenner> marcoaurelio: must have good students then. :) most windows-lovers i know would use the broken install as an excuse not to use linux
[04:24] <starscalling> i have the one from the ubuntu pastebin gimme sec
[04:24] <jsubl2> marcoaurelio, sign up to have one shipped just in case
[04:24] <mauricio> MESCAL: Yes, if you can access as root and use the chroot command is good for you
[04:24] <marcoaurelio> a apt-get that halted at 50% till timeout (even when I asked to not get files from Internet)
[04:24] <MESCAL> ok
[04:25] <starscalling> dabaR: what is link for pastebin?
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin
[04:25] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:25] <dabaR> marcoaurelio: strange. I had no errors with the 5.04 myself
[04:25] <dabaR> starscalling: ubotu told you already.
[04:25] <mauricio> MESCAL: Well, after you write "chroot /mnt/hda2" you must write "grub-install /dev/hda"
[04:25] <marcoaurelio> dabaR: 5.10, 5.04 was just fine
[04:25] <starscalling> ya i see now
[04:25] <starscalling> sorry
[04:26] <mauricio> MESCAL: And that's all folks
[04:26] <marcoaurelio> dabaR: actually, I was installing 5.04 in my computer (while the students installed 5.10). My installation run just fine, theirs was messy!
[04:26] <MESCAL> finish?
[04:26] <gusto5> i need assistance with my okidata OL 600e. anyone?
[04:26] <mauricio> MESCAL: reboot and that must work for you
[04:26] <dabaR> marcoaurelio: heh.
[04:26] <mauricio> MESCAL: yeah
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> marcoaurelio, that sure gives a very bad impression of linux on those students
[04:26] <Mrl33t> is steampowered.com working for any of you?
[04:27] <MESCAL> thanks a lot mauricio i will try this!!!
[04:27] <mauricio> MESCAL: Anyway if you need further assistance write me to mauricio@fayl.uh.cu
[04:27] <dabaR> Mrl33t: ping it.
[04:27] <MESCAL> really thanks..
[04:27] <mauricio> MESCAL: Ok, be the source with you
[04:27] <jsubl2> Mrl33t, works for me
[04:27] <mauricio> MESCAL: :-)
[04:27] <marcoaurelio> wickedpuppy: as undergraduate students, they were pretty amazed as, even with such problems, everything could be solved and Ubuntu installed successfully
[04:28] <Mrl33t> its not working for me
[04:28] <marcoaurelio> wickedpuppy: it just get two hours (instead of twenty minutes)
[04:28] <Mrl33t> ping is just sitting there
[04:28] <Mrl33t> and the site isnt' coming up
[04:28] <brenner> marcoaurelio: what unit are you teaching?
[04:28] <MESCAL> yes the bright side of the source :)
[04:28] <sector10> brenner: I found that I should add fingerhigh=** for tapping problem. just to let you know
[04:28] <brenner> sector10: did it fix it?
[04:29] <sector10> im going to have to re-x
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> marcoaurelio, your next task is to explain to them why those things happened :P
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> if not they will think linux is a broken OS
[04:29] <starscalling> ok
[04:29] <starscalling> i think its a deeper problem
[04:29] <sarah> hi, I just installed ubuntu off a fresh CD. when it was installing, there was a dhcp part, which I had it skip. now, it won't automatically dhcp, and every time I boot I have to "Run as different user" -> "dhclient". What can I do?
[04:29] <marcoaurelio> 1st and 3rd year students of computer science, in a private university in Brazil
[04:29] <starscalling> as i cannot get to any website via http
[04:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> i can't use my spdif connection since upgrading to breezy.  this seems to stop working every time i've done a major upgrade, sometimes even just switching kernel.  the red light comes on, but no sound.
[04:30] <DShepherd> anybody know any kool games that I can download for linux
[04:30] <DShepherd> frozen bubble rocks!!
[04:30] <kevogod> Frozen Bubble is indeed "Rockin'".
[04:30] <johndarkhorse> DShepherd: look in the 'games' section of your synaptic (make sure all your repos are enabled)
[04:30] <starscalling> though obviously i am online... and i WAS just on the web...
[04:30] <dabaR>  !
[04:30] <marcoaurelio> wickedpuppy: sure! Although I cannot expect them to understand everything :-)
[04:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd you should be able to find a list here. http://jfgi.us/
[04:30] <ubotu> dabaR: No idea
[04:30] <kevogod> Although I prefer a good game of Gnometris.
[04:30] <brenner> DShepherd: there's a games topic in the forum iirc
[04:30] <johndarkhorse> BROKEN_LADDER: that is uncalled for
[04:30] <paca> So, exactly what CAN I play with Totem?  Everything I try to play fails...  An avi file, a DVD...  I can't find anything that tells me where to install additional codecs or whatever.
[04:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> johndarkhorse no it's helpful.  it's a link to a google search.
[04:31] <kevogod> !restrictedformats
[04:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:31] <Amaranth> BROKEN_LADDER: It's rude.
[04:31] <paca> avi is a restricted format?
[04:31] <Nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: it is very inconsiderate
[04:31] <dabaR> BROKEN_LADDER: he knows...
[04:31] <paca> Also, mplayer doesn't appear in any repositories, is there some trick to getting it too?
[04:32] <Amaranth> !repos
[04:32] <ubotu> well, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[04:32] <marcoaurelio> the log files recorded by Ubuntu's installation, someone knows where they are save?
[04:32] <Entranced> hey all
[04:32] <brenner> !tell paca about multimedia
[04:32] <kevogod> paca, DivX can be of the extension .avi.
[04:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> lol.  rude.  i don't know how many times i've asked a valid question here and been told to google it.
[04:32] <brenner> marcoaurelio: my guess is somewhere in /var/log
[04:33] <Nalioth> paca: open a terminal and type "apt-cache search mplayer" to find your pkg name (there are many mplayers)
[04:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> okay DShepherd , if you were offended, my apologies.
[04:33] <sarah> any ideas about my network problem?
[04:33] <marcoaurelio> I'll look at it now. Tomorrow I'll collect the computers log (before they are wiped out)
[04:33] <dabaR> sarah: did you state it?
[04:33] <sarah> yes
[04:33] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: yup, not every can be foot-di- cap some people have to be handicapp
[04:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> speaking of which..can anyone help me find out why my spdif suddenly stopped working when i upgraded to breezy, despite restoring asound.state and doing everything else imaginable.
[04:33] <DShepherd> :)
[04:33] <DShepherd> apology accepted
[04:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd heh..not sure i get your joke.
[04:34] <paca> Cool, thanks!
[04:34] <dabaR> sarah: I do not see it.
[04:34] <sarah> hi, I just installed ubuntu off a fresh CD. when it was installing, there was a dhcp part, which I had it skip. now, it won't automatically dhcp, and every time I boot I have to "Run as different user" -> "dhclient". What can I do?
[04:34] <dmy> hola
[04:34] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: Ok neva mind, I just wanted to get a personal view on the games that you guys like
[04:34] <kevogod> paca, Also, DVD support is illegal because you need to break encryption. You will need to get livdvdcss2 if it is legal in your country.
[04:34] <jsubl2> anyone using gnome with a different wm --- no metacity
[04:35] <Entranced> I have a quick one... I was trying to burn an ISO with Nautilus and the only option I have if to burn to "File Image"...my burner is not visible. OTOH when I use GnomeBaker I can burn CDs with no problems... Any ideas what is going on ?
[04:35] <dabaR> sarah: well, paste your /etc/network/interfaces file to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl and also, check what your System>Admin>Networking has to say, please.
[04:35] <Nalioth> Entranced: try k3b
[04:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd i like bejeweled
[04:35] <starscalling> um
[04:35] <starscalling> help~!~
[04:35] <sarah> ok
[04:35] <starscalling> i seem to have lost all ability to http
[04:35] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: yeah yeah!! that fun!!
[04:35] <Entranced> Nalioth, It works when I use GnomeBaker...
[04:35] <starscalling> and i have no clue why..
[04:35] <starscalling> this xchat is still open..
[04:35] <bimberi> Amaranth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3325 - also with that other issue the created entry doesn't run in the terminal (even though the checkbox is set)
[04:36] <kevogod> paca, Although the page I sent to you tells you all about that.
[04:36] <starscalling> no websites/browsers work at ALL :/
[04:36] <Mrl33t> how can i access my mounted windows partition with wine?
[04:36] <Nalioth> Entranced: try k3b, it has more features then gnomebacker. nautilus is not much good for burning disks, imho
[04:36] <starscalling> i e no new open connections
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> Mrl33t, you just have to mount ... why need wine ?
[04:36] <Entranced> Nalioth, I'm trying to stick to Gnome as much as possible... no need to install KDE stuff on this box
[04:36] <Mrl33t> i mounted my windows hdd and want to do some stuff on it with wine
[04:36] <sarah> System > Admin > Networking crashes
[04:37] <Mrl33t> like load some programs
[04:37] <starscalling> Nalioth: what could cause my outgoing internet to crap out.. just on new connections though?
[04:37] <DShepherd> anybody else have any favourite games you like?
[04:37] <dabaR> sarah: that's good...not:) paste that file.
[04:37] <Toma-> how do you find out what packages depend on another package?
[04:37] <propagandhi> k3b is a damn good burning app though
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> Mrl33t, then type wine /mounted/drive/programname.exe
[04:37] <Nalioth> starscalling: can you hit numerical IPs?
[04:37] <Entranced> k3b is very nice indeed
[04:38] <starscalling> mind giving me one Nalioth ?
[04:38] <sarah> dabaR, done
[04:38] <dabaR> use any of the ones you see people coming and leaving channels...
[04:38] <Nalioth> starscalling: 68.142.197.80
[04:38] <bimberi> Toma-: apt-cache show <package> | grep Depends
[04:39] <Toma-> thanks!
[04:39] <bimberi> yw :)
[04:39] <wickedpuppy> starscalling, PING google.com (216.239.57.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[04:39] <starscalling> bingo!
[04:39] <dabaR> Nalioth: do you use dhcp?
[04:39] <informant> starscalling: dns issue?
[04:39] <sarah> oh, wait -- system > admin > networking didn't crash, it just took 5 minutes to appear. I thought it had crashed because a windows called "Starting network..." opened and closed
[04:40] <Nalioth> dabaR: yes i do
[04:40] <dabaR> sarah: whats it say, enabled?
[04:40] <defendguin> hey i cant ping my own machine
[04:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> [19:35]  <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: yeah yeah!! that fun!! <-- bwah hah hah
[04:40] <defendguin> i think its causing printer problems
[04:40] <dabaR> Nalioth: please paste your interfaces file to pastebin.
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> defendguin, ping localhost or ping 127.0.0.1
[04:40] <starscalling> let me add some dns's then
[04:40] <sarah> eth0 was disabled. I clicked properties, enabled it, and put it into dhcp mode
[04:40] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, both
[04:40] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: huh? I dont seem to get your joke
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> both can't ?
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> defendguin, ifconfig
[04:40] <kevogod> Has anyone been able to compile tango-icon-theme-0.3.1 on Ubuntu?
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> see if you got lo0
[04:40] <dabaR> sarah: that should be it. go check your interfaces file again.
[04:40] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, the lo interface isnt up
[04:40] <dabaR> and paste it off course. sarah .
[04:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd are you a native english speaker?
[04:41] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, just ath0  <-- wireless card
[04:41] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: Yes I can speak English well
[04:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd okay..it was just a funny typo then.  "that funny"
[04:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> made me chuckle.
[04:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> err.. "that fun"
[04:41] <Mrl33t> what are some utilities to make linux speed up?  something like defrag in windows
[04:41] <Nalioth> dabaR: i'm on a mac atm
[04:41] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, any ideas?
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> ok now .. ifconfig lo up ? i don't know how to make loopback up lol
[04:41] <ecobuntu> irssi rules!
[04:41] <Toma-> anyone tried installing tk/tcl8.5?
[04:42] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: i'm Jamaican .... it's my dialect
[04:42] <Nalioth> dabaR: at the office
[04:42] <dabaR> Nalioth: actually, we may have resolved it using the GUI, thanks.
[04:42] <martalli> mrl33tL:  Seems like upgrading your kernel is the hing to do
[04:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd that shouldn't change the way you type.
[04:42] <Mrl33t> well.. i just threw this linux on an old slow drive
[04:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd "that funny" isn't proper english.
[04:42] <Mrl33t> and want to make it go as fast as i can get it
[04:42] <DShepherd> it doesnt....
[04:42] <Amaranth> BROKEN_LADDER: So?
[04:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> you typed "that fun" instead of "that's fun"
[04:42] <dabaR> sarah: yes, that should be it. Care to reboot to find out at all?
[04:42] <Amaranth> BROKEN_LADDER: It's english, that's close enough.
[04:42] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, ok that brought it up
[04:42] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: but it is patios
[04:43] <starscalling> awesome~!!!! yet again you win the prize !!! <3 the nalioth
[04:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> no it's not english.
[04:43] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: very english like
[04:43] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, woo hoo i can ping my machine now
[04:43] <pepsi> why are you arguing about it? who cares
[04:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> this lady i work with always says, "i seen.."  drives me nuts.
[04:43] <kevogod> that fun!! heha
[04:43] <Amaranth> BROKEN_LADDER: Can you change your nick please? All uppercase looks like yelling.
[04:43] <dabaR> starscalling: networking is one thing you can usually get away with here...
[04:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> Amaranth http://brokenladder.com/
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:43] <stephen_> hi. i have breezy installed. how do i get it so i can install windows?
[04:43] <starscalling> :)
[04:43] <martalli> I'm suprised at that strick grammar rules here.  In #mandriva, they just want to avoid foul language (in french too =)
[04:43] <Hobbsee> !tell stephen_ about dualboot
[04:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> Amaranth i do not support the use of case sensitivity, and i think lowercase letters should be aboloshed.
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> defendguin, that was me randomly coming up with the answer :P
[04:44] <starscalling> i guess one of my isp's dns servers is down or something :P
[04:44] <Amaranth> BROKEN_LADDER: Thanks for the spam. Can you switch to broken_ladder?
[04:44] <kevogod> BROKEN_LADDER, You are then an idiot.
[04:44] <martalli> stephen - better to install windows first if you want a dual boot machine
[04:44] <dabaR> martalli: it makes it easier to understand.
[04:44] <stephen_> hmm
[04:44] <dabaR> Amaranth: he never does:)
[04:44] <Hobbsee> martalli: well, you do have people from all over the world - good grammar means less misunderstandings
[04:44] <Mrl33t> what exactly is breezy?
[04:44] <Hobbsee> !breezy
[04:44] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> Amaranth if you really dislike my name, please put me on ignore.  i don't ask you to change yours.
[04:44] <johndarkhorse> martalli: we avoid foul language when possible
[04:44] <Ron_o> windows will take over your MBR.... heh, what a monster, hey? :->
[04:44] <johndarkhorse> cyl
[04:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> Amaranth that's a simple fix that shouldn't put you out anything.
[04:44] <martalli> johndarkhorse - I would think so
[04:44] <dabaR> Mrl33t: a code name for ubuntu 5.10 read the MarkShuttleworth page on the wiki for some history.
[04:45] <Amaranth> Mrl33t: It's Ubuntu 5.10, the latest release.
[04:45] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: I dont ask you to change yours... now that's not english :)
[04:45] <Mrl33t> you have to install windows first
[04:45] <dabaR> sarah: so?
[04:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd of course it is.
[04:45] <gusto5> Mrl33t, always?
[04:45] <Mrl33t> amaranth:  ok... i just keep hearing breezy and dont know what they're talking about.  i have 5.10
[04:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm having an x related problem.
[04:45] <Hobbsee> Mrl33t: yep, same thing by two names
[04:45] <martalli> Windows wants to be at the start of the primary drive.  It will be buggy or useless elsewhere.  In stall it first and nix its bootloader with the b/l of your [distro's]  choice
[04:45] <codemech_> hey, i'm new at this and got told ubuntu is better then gentoo, came someone advise me me to as why and what the real differences are plz :)
[04:45] <Amaranth> BROKEN_LADDER: Last warning.
[04:45] <Mrl33t> gusto5:  i dunno.  thats what i did.  im not sure how windows will react if linux is there fisrt
[04:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> whenever i log out of my x session, the gdm/kdm comes up (i can hear it) but the monitor goes to sleep.  same happens if i try to start a new session in a new window.
[04:45] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, well i figuered it was lo  that was the problem i havent had to do /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up in years
[04:46] <martalli> codemech_ The biggest difference is with gentoo -it will take foreevr to install
[04:46] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, do you have any idea why lo wouldnt come up when i boot the computer?
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> codemech_, pls don't ask this kind of questions ... pls
[04:46] <dabaR> Amaranth: he does not change his nick...
[04:46] <martalli> \because genoo must be compiled from source
[04:46] <Amaranth> dabaR: Then he does not talk.
[04:46] <loon> ugh
[04:46] <Mrl33t> yea.... i noticed that when i installed it today
[04:46] <Mrl33t> it took FOREVER
[04:46] <loon> im still on this thing
[04:46] <Mrl33t> lol
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> defendguin, my lo is up when i boot .. i never have to bring it up
[04:46] <martalli> ubuntu has gobs of software ready to go
[04:47] <ecobuntu> gentoo=global warming due to unnecessary recompiling
[04:47] <codemech_> wickedpupy_: soo sorry kinda new at this
[04:47] <ecobuntu> why not LFS if you're going to use gentoo?
[04:47] <Ron_o> I guess the which OS is better query, is kind of like the old debate of which Martial Art is the best.
[04:47] <dabaR> me too
[04:47] <dabaR> sarah__: troubles?
[04:48] <yaul> hello, i am trying to play starcraft on linux. the install was fine and i could play if wine could find the cdrom. is there a way to tell wine where the cd is mounted and have it use that?
[04:48] <ecobuntu> apt-get install voom voom
[04:48] <martalli> gentoo is for the real l33t and folks with lots of spare time
[04:48] <ecobuntu> who is sarah?
[04:48] <sector10> when i reboot my wep key is gone and i have to redo the entire wireless..
[04:48] <ecobuntu> i don't have enough time for gentoo
[04:48] <sarah__> dabaR, I don't know. I got disconnected for some reason..but I bet changing that network setting fixed it
[04:48] <ecobuntu> i have work
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> codemech_, all distros go for different users ... gentoo is for those who like to tweak .. i used gentoo before and its amazing ... i am using ubuntu and also its amazing ...  which is better ? linux is better for both of them :P
[04:48] <dabaR> ecobuntu: well, one of the people on the channel.
[04:48] <sarah__> I'm going to reboot, and if I don't come back in here, it worked... so thanks for your help
[04:48] <dabaR> sarah__: care to try rebooting?
[04:48] <Ron_o> codemech_: , if you're new at this then Ubuntu might be for you.
[04:48] <dabaR> welcome
[04:48] <ecobuntu> oh
[04:49] <Mrl33t> Ubuntu is pretty good to start out on
[04:49] <Mrl33t> i've only been using linux for a few hours and i've learned loads ;)
[04:49] <sector10> does anyone knwo where the applets are?
[04:49] <sector10> like netapplet?
[04:49] <dabaR> what applets, sector10
[04:49] <dabaR> in your panel.
[04:49] <Mrl33t> when using wine, where do i pick to install something (* cough * steam)
[04:49] <mauricio> LADDER: Ok shoot
[04:49] <sector10> i installed netapplet, but nowhere to be found
[04:49] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, thats the way it has always been but not for me tonight
[04:50] <Mrl33t> when the installer says pick installation directory
[04:50] <codemech_> Ron_o: thanks that the kinda help i need, its still all a bit forign to me
[04:50] <mauricio> MESCAL: Video card model?
[04:50] <kevogod> Has anyone compiled the Tango Icon Theme on Ubuntu?
[04:50] <hedgehog> Please help...
[04:50] <mauricio> LADDER: Sorry, what video card are you using?
[04:50] <shadowhunter_> hey i are a new man at this ubuntu and dont no much about it yet but how can i get newest updat
[04:51] <hedgehog> How do you set the Default partition to boot as normal?
[04:51] <Robi_> crimsun, i missed him, and can't msg since i'm not regged ;[
[04:51] <mauricio> LADDER: r u sill there?
[04:51] <sector10> dabaR: nope its not there it wont start from command line either,
[04:51] <Robi_> anyone else run RAID here ?
[04:51] <dabaR> hedgehog: that's not an informative enough question.
[04:51] <amonkey> what is the preferred sound driver in breezy? esd or alsa?
[04:51] <hedgehog> ok
[04:51] <hedgehog> uhh.
[04:51] <Robi_> bok dabaR
[04:51] <MESCAL> mauricio still there?
[04:52] <kevogod> I believe ESD
[04:52] <Mrl33t> how can i view how much space i have left on a drive?
[04:52] <Ron_o> codemech_: why don't you try Ubuntu, live CD?
[04:52] <MESCAL> on passward it gives me error
[04:52] <marcoaurelio> Is it somehow possible to set a http proxy to be used in the Ubuntu installation?
[04:52] <dabaR> amonkey: esd if you like more apps running sound at the same time, or your sound card can play multiple sounds in hardware, with alsa, but that is rare.
[04:52] <Ron_o> you can run your system off of a CD, without screwing with your normal OS.
[04:52] <MESCAL> authentication failure
[04:52] <hedgehog> How would I set the computer to boot into the windows partition when i restart it without anything in the drive, aka, auto-boot to partition 1?
[04:52] <Robi_> Mrl33t , df -k
[04:52] <dabaR> amonkey: as well, it is only in gnome, kde uses artsd
[04:52] <mauricio> MESCAL: Yes I'm here
[04:52] <broken_ladder> lame
[04:52] <dabaR> hedgehog: and now it boots into ubuntu?
[04:52] <Amaranth> broken_ladder: Thank you.
[04:52] <Milk_> grr... I almost wish I hadn't upgraded!
[04:52] <mauricio> MESCAL: what live CD are u using
[04:52] <marcoaurelio> kevogod: haven't they changed to alsa, while keeping esd using alsa to play the sound? that was a feature I really hoped for breezy
[04:52] <martalli> gedhehog - you need to edit the settings for your bootloader.
[04:53] <MESCAL> dsl
[04:53] <Mrl33t> is there a command to view the hdd space left?
[04:53] <hedgehog> now it boots into the partition i created for ubuntu
[04:53] <dabaR> broken_ladder: I appreaciate that as well.
[04:53] <Robi_> Mrl33t, df -k
[04:53] <codemech_> Ron_o: good idea got that disk i might do that (got all my flatmates suuf coz hes goin away)
[04:53] <hedgehog> but ubuntu didn't fully install correctly
[04:53] <broken_ladder> dabaR i think it's ridiculous.
[04:53] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[04:53] <martalli> ubuntu = grub, right?
[04:53] <mauricio> MESCAL: dsl? i don't know it
[04:53] <Mrl33t> uh oh
[04:53] <Robi_> who runs a raid array?
[04:53] <hedgehog> Please... I need to boot into windows
[04:53] <Mrl33t> is /dev/sda1 mounted on / my linux drive?
[04:54] <Robi_> Mrl33t, probably
[04:54] <khafra> I kinda want 2.6.13, I think it might make VMware work.  How likely am I to mess ubuntu up if that's my first kernel compile, considering there's no ubuntu version?
[04:54] <Mrl33t> uh oh
[04:54] <MESCAL> anyway is based on knoppix tecnology
[04:54] <Mrl33t> 100% use
[04:54] <MESCAL> it says
[04:54] <mauricio> MESCAL: anyway almost all live CDs have a README
[04:54] <sector10> i cant seem to adjust synaptics touchpad in xorg.conf
[04:54] <dabaR> hedgehog: there is a file, absolute path: /boot/grub/menu.lst. editing it would change that. you should read it, it is self explanatory(look for the default line) and ask questions here, accompanied with a post on pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl of that file if you have further questions.
[04:54] <Robi_> Mrl33t, not, good clean it up
[04:54] <MESCAL> ok
[04:54] <mauricio> MESCAL: Or FAQ
[04:54] <Mrl33t> well.. its only 3.7gb :P
[04:54] <Mrl33t> drive
[04:54] <dabaR> hedgehog: provided you can boot ubuntu...
[04:54] <broken_ladder> mauricio my graphics card is intel extreme graphics..
[04:54] <MESCAL> i take a look there
[04:54] <marcoaurelio> dabaR: you can always (well, almost) run alsa with mixer plugin, just have to set the asoundrc (I prefer that to use esd).
[04:55] <hedgehog> thank you dabaR
[04:55] <geno_> What is the website where there is a list of all linux games?
[04:55] <dabaR> bok Robi_ .
[04:55] <hedgehog> i'm on the liveCD at the moment
[04:55] <Mrl33t> i'm waiting for another drive to come in, so i can run RAID 0, then I have an excuse to clear my windows drive and create a bigger linux partition
[04:55] <sector10> is it so simple that i have to recompile kernel?
[04:55] <dabaR> marcoaurelio: ok, news.
[04:55] <brenner> martalli: grub loads ubuntu....they're not equivalent
[04:55] <Robi_> dabaR, uff kak si lagiran :P
[04:55] <mauricio> MESCAL: try to find there something about the root password
[04:55] <dabaR> I help people:)
[04:55] <MESCAL> ok..
[04:55] <dabaR> hedgehog: have you mounted your ubuntu partition?
[04:55] <khafra> What do I need to do with a vanilla 2.6.13 kernel to make it Ubuntu-y?
[04:55] <codemech_> hedgehog: is the live cd easy to use i'm about to run it?
[04:55] <broken_ladder> mauricio at first, in breezy, i could see anything at all.  my monitor went straight to sleep.  now gdm/kdm starts up, but then it goes blank once i log out, or if i make a new x session.  and it's non-recoverable.
[04:55] <Robi_> dabaR, np
[04:56] <hedgehog> it's pretty good
[04:56] <dabaR> codemech_: yes, it is, ask marcoaurelio :)
[04:56] <Robi_> dabar, have any contacts back in ZG ?
[04:56] <hedgehog> but it's slow on internet =\
[04:56] <broken_ladder> does anyone else use your spdif connection for sound?
[04:56] <Amaranth> khafra: Merge a bunch of patches manually, update Ubuntu userspace apps to work with new kernel.
[04:56] <mauricio> ladder: i had once troubles with intel graphic in hoary
[04:56] <Mrl33t> hmm.... i installed steam with wine... i wonder where it installed to
[04:56] <dabaR> Robi_: my family, mom, sisters, sisters' children...and so on. I left at 18, so I knew quite a few people.
[04:56] <Robi_> dabaR, i need to find someone who's selling a decent car for my mom
[04:56] <dabaR> Robi_: how old are you and where abouts are you living?
[04:56] <protokol> ok heres a good question
[04:56] <khafra> Amaranth: Any guide, anywhere?  "merge a bunch of patches" is slightly vague
[04:57] <EnsignRedshirt> I am have cable internet, and I'm using a Linksys router at home.  I can access the internet with no problems.  What I would like to do it to be able to ssh into my home computer from my office.  I'm not it that will be possible, and I'm not sure where to begin.  Any suggestions?
[04:57] <mauricio> ladder: it solved  with breeze
[04:57] <codemech_> dabaR: will ubuntu automatically detect my winXP partition and setup a dual boot installation for me? im a lil scared that its going to overwrite everthing
[04:57] <Mrl33t> hmm... where woudl it have installed to?
[04:57] <mauricio> ladder: are you using breeze?
[04:57] <EnsignRedshirt> s/not it/not sure it/
[04:57] <dabaR> hedgehog: whenever you are ready to answer my question.
[04:57] <sector10> supposidly the touchpad is now part of kernel with no chance to configure.
[04:57] <Robi_> dabaR, past a quarter century, now in CA , us
[04:57] <Amaranth> khafra: Lets just say it's highly non-trivial and you probably need kernel programming expierence.
[04:57] <sector10> that makes it simple but dead!
[04:57] <dabaR> Robi_: cool.
[04:57] <Amaranth> khafra: Since everything in Ubuntu is so tightly integrated.
[04:57] <broken_ladder> mauricio i was fine in hoary.  breezy is the problem.
[04:57] <dabaR> Robi_: Im in winnipeg, manitoba, canada.
[04:57] <dabaR> all lower case:)
[04:57] <protokol> i had a distro once, and when you locked the screen, it had an option to switch users. how do i get that in ubuntu?
[04:57] <broken_ladder> mauricio could you type bro then hit tab or something, so i can see the line highlight.
[04:57] <Robi_> dabaR, ya so i c
[04:57] <khafra> Amaranth: Darn.  Guess I'll try to get cedega to work, then, since VMware won't.
[04:57] <Robi_> brrr
[04:58] <mauricio> MESCAL: are you sill there?
[04:58] <Amaranth> khafra: Ah, that annoying bug.
[04:58] <Mrl33t> anybody have an idea?
[04:58] <Mrl33t> where steam would have installed to when using wine?
[04:58] <mauricio> ladder: sorry i'm new in IRC
[04:58] <dabaR> Mrl33t: ask dpkg on #debian about having an idea.
[04:58] <Amaranth> khafra: Any game you want to run probably won't work well in vmware anything, it doesn't even have 3d hardware acceleration.
[04:58] <Madpilot> protokol: Breezy does that now
[04:59] <Amaranth> khafra: So all the graphics for the game will be rendered in software by an emulated computer, slowly.
[04:59] <mauricio> ladder: anyway what resolution are you using by default?
[04:59] <broken_ladder> mauricio you know about name completion in irc?  you just type the first few letters of the name and hit tab.
[04:59] <Robi_> Mrl33t , find / -name steam
[04:59] <khafra> Amaranth: I kinda wanted to try out OS X x86 and Vista
[04:59] <Odyssey> hi guys.... i recently got my copy of ubuntu 5.04
[04:59] <codemech_> hey will ubuntu automatically detect my winXP partition and setup a dual boot installation for me? im a lil scared that its going to overwrite everthing
[04:59] <Odyssey> and need help
[04:59] <broken_ladder> mauricio you mean in xorg.conf?
[04:59] <dabaR> Odyssey: ok, sounds about right, go ahead.
[04:59] <MESCAL> yes i 'm looking for informations about psswrd
[04:59] <Amaranth> khafra: Naughty. :)
[04:59] <protokol> Madpilot, damn breezy rocks
[04:59] <khafra> But hopefully cedega will run that one, single windows graphing program I need.
[05:00] <mauricio> broken_ladder, OH thanks is wonderful your tip
[05:00] <Odyssey> ok   i installed the typical version is this right or should i have selected the hoary version?
[05:00] <mauricio> broken_ladder, yes xorg.conf
[05:00] <khafra> I'm just hesitant to install cedega because it's a single tar that spreads itself everywhere--looks impossible to uninstall, if I ever needed to
[05:00] <marcoaurelio> codemech_: it won't resize the windows partition automatically, but it will setup dual boot just fine
[05:01] <dabaR> Odyssey: default, if that is what you mean. read the screens, it told you what the options were, and what they meant.
[05:01] <broken_ladder> mauricio 1280x1040
[05:01] <Odyssey> yes default... i did it a couple of weeks ago and cant remember what it intailed but i selected default... is hoary installed atuomatic?
[05:01] <mauricio> broken_ladder, try to make it a bit lower
[05:02] <dabaR> Odyssey: yes, well, automatic...are you in ubuntu now?
[05:02] <Amaranth> khafra: Did you try WINE?
[05:02] <mauricio> broken_ladder, try 1024x768
[05:02] <dabaR> Odyssey: hoary == ubuntu 5.04
[05:02] <Amaranth> khafra: It's even in universe.
[05:02] <Odyssey> nope cos i cant get my net connection to work on it
[05:02] <Davey> Hey Amaranth :)
[05:02] <Odyssey> ahh i see :)
[05:02] <Amaranth> hey davey
[05:02] <Davey> Amaranth, Breezy is *nice* :)
[05:02] <Davey> Amaranth, but not much has changed :/
[05:02] <Madpilot> protokol: it does; there's a few nice incremental improvements, and it's a bit faster on this machine that Hoary was
[05:02] <Amaranth> Davey: :D
[05:02] <codemech_> Marcourlio: sweet as, so i should loose my data but i will have to set up the partition?
[05:02] <Amaranth> Davey: Well, lots of little things have changed.
[05:02] <dabaR> Odyssey: so that is your question? network conenction? skip the intro:)
[05:02] <Odyssey> i finally got my connection to dail but it stays connected for a whole 5 secs and disconnects me
[05:02] <hedgehog> how do I set the default partition to boot?
[05:03] <Davey> Amaranth, hated those stupid buttons instead of location text box shit, turned that off really quickly ;)
[05:03] <Amaranth> Davey: And if you're using it on a laptop you'll notice a lot of the changes.
[05:03] <Odyssey> *laffs* sorry :)
[05:03] <Amaranth> hehe
[05:03] <dabaR> Odyssey: dial up, eh? only network connection I know nothing about...:(
[05:03] <protokol> Davey: HOW?!?!?
[05:03] <Odyssey> yep :)
[05:03] <broken_ladder> mauricio my resolution works fine at 1280x1040
[05:03] <dabaR> Davey: ya how!
[05:03] <Amaranth> Davey: Wanna test the new version of smeg for me? I need someone to try to break it so I can pick up the pieces.
[05:03] <Odyssey> *laffs* ok :) thanx anyway :)
[05:03] <dabaR> broken_ladder: here is the thing we were trying to do^^
[05:03] <codemech_> Marcoaurelio: sweet as, so i should loose my data but i will have to set up the partition?
[05:03] <broken_ladder> mauricio gdm comes up when i first start.
[05:04] <Davey> Applications > System Tools > Configuration Editor
[05:04] <broken_ladder> dabaR hmm?
[05:04] <Odyssey> anyone in australia with bigpond dial up?
[05:04] <dabaR> broken_ladder: bubbles in nautilus
[05:04] <bungle> with ifconfig how do I change the braodcast address
[05:04] <marcoaurelio> codemech_: You'll have to manually resize the partition, Ubuntu will give instructions on that. It's usually safe (but backups are always welcome).
[05:04] <bur[n] er> bungle: man ifconfig ;)
[05:04] <MESCAL> ok mauricio i think i have a serius problem with partitions becouse on chroot /mnt/hda2 it says : no such file or directory
[05:04] <dabaR> Davey: go on...
[05:04] <protokol> Davey: what value
[05:04] <WTF_China21> how do you get AvP2, to work on ubuntu
[05:05] <Davey> then go to /apps/nautilus/preferences
[05:05] <Davey> then check "always_use_location_entry"
[05:05] <Odyssey> :(
[05:05] <mauricio> broken_ladder, ok try to restart gdm
[05:05] <dabaR> hah never saw that one.
[05:05] <Amaranth> Davey: Or just use the breadcrumbs and hit ctrl-l when you really need the location entry
[05:05] <Mrl33t> i dont know what to delete....
[05:05] <gp_aaron> shit it's packed in here
[05:05] <WTF_China21> how do you get AvP2, to work on ubuntu
[05:05] <dabaR> broken_ladder: hear that? about the bubbles in nautilus....
[05:05] <codemech_> Marcoaurelio: i have an ac97 moden and i don't think that it is supported, will it work?
[05:05] <bungle> tah
[05:05] <Mrl33t> i can't open up synaptic
[05:05] <mauricio> MESCAL, ok, don't worry
[05:05] <khafra> Amaranth: "in the universe=?" aptitude's never heard of it
[05:05] <sector10> ubuntu is flakey!
[05:06] <Odyssey> anyone on dial up? with ubuntu?
[05:06] <Davey> Amaranth, catch me tomorrow, I'm off to bed :)
[05:06] <bungle> one last hting where is the file to edit the netowrk stats manually
[05:06] <broken_ladder> dabaR in gnome?
[05:06] <bungle> the conf file
[05:06] <dabaR> broken_ladder: ya.
[05:06] <codemech_> Marcoaurelio: or do i need to get an external?
[05:06] <broken_ladder> mauricio restart gdm?
[05:06] <Davey> Amaranth, but then I'll be happy to test... as little as I edit my menus ;)
[05:06] <mauricio> MESCAL, you have root acces now?
[05:06] <marcoaurelio> codemech_: that I really don't know. Have you tried the ubuntuguide.org?
[05:06] <Mrl33t> i get "Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root:
[05:06] <Mrl33t>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[05:06] <dabaR> Davey: thanks
[05:06] <gp_aaron> mitch you got aim?
[05:06] <Amaranth> khafra: you have to enable the universe repository
[05:06] <Davey> dabaR, np :)
[05:06] <WTF_China21> umm, yes why
[05:06] <broken_ladder> mauricio what are you talking about restarting gdm for?  you mean exit my x session and try to get back to gdm?
[05:06] <bmk789> hi every1
[05:06] <Amaranth> Davey: I need people who don't edit them much, in case you break something. The only fix is removing all your changes.
[05:06] <MESCAL> yes i've wrote sudo su and everithing was ok (i think)
[05:07] <Odyssey> can anyone help with my dial up connection on ubuntu? :)
[05:07] <mauricio> broken_ladder, sorry, the thing is that i'm too used to debian
[05:07] <Davey> Amaranth, ah, cool :)
[05:07] <codemech_> Marcoaurelio: no will go and have a look there thanks for all your help :)
[05:07] <dabaR> broken_ladder: do you want to know how to change it? im almost off...
[05:07] <mahangu> Odyssey, that's a nice nickname - im a greek and roman major myself - ok, is your modem configured?
[05:07] <mahangu> what IS your modem
[05:07] <mahangu> there are some modems that wont work on linux without windows drivers
[05:07] <mahangu> you need to find me your model number
[05:07] <mahangu> and name
[05:08] <WTF_China21> how do you get Alien vs Predator 2, to work on ubuntu
[05:08] <Odyssey> its an external d-link 56k
[05:08] <dooglus> is it possible to watch a bin/cue VCD in Linux without burning it to a CD first?
[05:08] <Odyssey> it connects for 5 secs then boots me out any ideas?
[05:08] <mahangu> mm wierd
[05:08] <dabaR> dooglus: its a .iso type thing? image? tried mounting it?
[05:08] <mahangu> ive never used dialup on linux
[05:08] <Odyssey> ummm DFM-560E
[05:08] <Amaranth> dooglus: mplayer and vlc can open the bin file directly
[05:08] <dooglus> dabaR: it's two files: .bin and .cue.  neither is a .iso
[05:08] <mahangu> does it show up in network interfaces?
[05:08] <dooglus> Amaranth: thanks
[05:09] <mauricio> broken_ladder, as you said just exit your x session
[05:09] <dabaR> dooglus: I mean, is it a disk image type of thing?
[05:09] <mahangu> Odyssey, if it shows up and actually works, then hardware detection seems fine
[05:09] <FR500> /msg nickserv ident 2430561
[05:09] <bungle> where is the conf file to edit the network interfaces
[05:09] <Odyssey> i think soo? i'm very new to linux
[05:09] <frank23> dooglus: there is a virtual driver type thing for linux for bin files but I forget the name
[05:09] <FR500> woooooooooops
[05:09] <dabaR> FR500: thanks
[05:09] <FR500> lol
[05:09] <FR500> hehehe
[05:09] <bungle> hamed out now FR500
[05:09] <broken_ladder> mauricio if i do that, my computer will be "frozen" until i reboot.
[05:09] <bungle> shamed*
[05:09] <dabaR> >:-{
[05:09] <WTF_China21> how do you get Alien vs Predator 2, to work on ubuntu
[05:09] <Odyssey> yeh actually it does and works... mmm maybe the provider?
[05:09] <FR500> bungle, gotta change name to fr501 now :p
[05:10] <rain`> WTF_China21: cedega or wine
[05:10] <informant> WTF_China21: have you tried wine/cedega?
[05:10] <MESCAL> mauricio ?
[05:10] <codemech_> Odyssey: i have a ac97 moden is it suppported by linux yet? or do i need an external modem?
[05:10] <ajmitch_> bungle: trying ubuntu now? :)
[05:10] <Odyssey> codemech i have no idea?
[05:10] <WTF_China21> rain, yes, but when it says insert cd2, i do, but no work fromt here
[05:10] <FR500> do you know if synaptics touchpads work out of the box with breezy?
[05:10] <Odyssey> sorry
[05:10] <FR500> i don't wanna patch my kernel so i may be going to upgrade
[05:11] <WTF_China21> rain`, yes, but when it says insert cd2, i do, but no work fromt here
[05:11] <Odyssey> so if the driver is wrong it wont connect at all?
[05:11] <informant> FR500: should, although you can always try the 5.10 livecd to be safe..
[05:11] <FR500> informant, thanks
[05:11] <rain`> WTF_China21: cant unmount the cd eh? I had the same problem, I had to copy the install cd's to my computer first :(
[05:12] <FR500> and wwhat about wacom tablets?
[05:12] <bungle> heya ajmitch_
[05:12] <rain`> WTF_China2: not with the same game, but other ones
[05:12] <WTF_China21> rain` i guess i can try that
[05:12] <graig> hey, i am having trouble installing quake 3 arena.
[05:12] <bungle> nah just proving that windows wont rung a 300mhz with a dodgey card
[05:12] <Spudchat> breezy seems better on the ole memory usage now
[05:12] <bungle> but linux is wikid and it will work
[05:12] <bungle> ajmitch_
[05:12] <ajmitch_> bungle: yeah :)
[05:12] <bungle> where is the network confi file
[05:12] <ajmitch_> bungle: /etc/network/interfaces
[05:12] <Odyssey> mmm might have to go back to crappy win95 i think.... :(
[05:13] <bungle> so I can edit it that and change everything manually
[05:13] <ajmitch_> bungle: if you're wanting to set ip address, etc
[05:13] <FR500> does anyone have a wacom tablet?
[05:13] <graig> i downloaded the linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run
[05:13] <graig>   file, marked it with run permissions, and it doesn't complete.  do i need any extra packages to get this installed?
[05:13] <graig> i have a wacom tablet.
[05:13] <bungle> I want to edit the broadcast address
[05:13] <FR500> graig, does it work fine with breezy?
[05:13] <bungle> the machine is already online
[05:13] <bungle> I just wanna move it to a different server
[05:14] <WTF_China21> rain`, if this works thanks
[05:14] <FR500> informant, the touchpad works as a normal mouse, but the mouse Wheel like functions don't really work
[05:14] <rain`> FR500: what kind of touchpad, synaptics, alps or something else?
[05:15] <codemech_> does anyone knoe this? i have a ac97 moden is it suppported by linux yet? or do i need an external modem?
[05:15] <FR500> rai0d, it's supposed to be synaptics, toshiba a20 laptop
[05:15] <mauricio> broken_ladder, hey i'm still here, just disconnected a minute
[05:15] <Odyssey> i donno bout linux anymore ... this is the second one i'v tried and nothing works :(
[05:15] <marcoaurelio> bungle: the broadcast address your nic uses? man ifconfig has some clues, "ifconfig eth -broadcast <address>" or something like that
[05:15] <FR500> Odyssey, tried damn small linux?
[05:15] <Odyssey> codemech.... maybe go to the website for the modem and check? thats what i tried
[05:16] <FR500> bungle, why do you need to change bcast address
[05:16] <Odyssey> where do i get a copy FR5?:)
[05:16] <mauricio> broken_ladder, did you solve your problem?
[05:16] <informant> Odyssey: what exactly does "nothing works" mean?
[05:16] <plumpkin> what are some programs that linux users use to sniff for wireless access points?
[05:16] <Odyssey> *laffs* i cant get online... therefore i cant do anything... and get help :|
[05:16] <codemech_> Odyssey: what dialer are you using?
[05:17] <Odyssey> dialer? as provider? bigpond
[05:18] <Odyssey> this way i'm trying to bounce between comps with only one mouse, keyboard and screen and i have no idea... its hard :(
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> plumpkin, airsnort
[05:18] <codemech_> Odyssey: no dialer as in software used to connect to ISP. could i recommed getting wvdial and dialing up with verbose switch, then pasting output to the list
[05:18] <Odyssey> how do i do all that? get it from one comp to the other? and use it?
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> wait that is a sniffer ... not access point sniffer ...
[05:18] <Odyssey> sorry i am really very slow with linux
[05:19] <broken_ladder> mauricio no i didn't solve my problem.  how would i do that?
[05:19] <wickedpuppy> Odyssey, rsync
[05:19] <dooglus> Odyssey: it's a conspiracy, don't you know? http://searchopensource.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid39_gci1134910,00.html
[05:19] <Am|NickTaken> bed time
[05:19] <Odyssey> *laffs hard* ok... what?
[05:19] <graig> nm, i got quake 3 installed, i had to type sudo before installing it.
[05:20] <codemech_> Odyssey: What dialer are you using? what program do you run to init a ppp connection
[05:20] <protokol> how do i change my defualt java?
[05:20] <DrZeus> hi all.  I was trying to compile kismet, and gave me this error: no acceptable C compilers in $PATH
[05:20] <mauricio> broken_ladder, you mean change the default resolution in xorg.conf?
[05:20] <DrZeus> hi all.  I was trying to compile kismet, and gave me this error: no acceptable C compilers in $PATH
[05:20] <graig> woa.
[05:20] <broken_ladder> ack.
[05:20] <broken_ladder> net split?
[05:20] <Odyssey> the one installed with default installation on 5.04
[05:20] <DrZeus> what could that be?
[05:20] <protokol> how do i change my defualt java?
[05:20] <broken_ladder> mauricio why would i change it?
[05:20] <Madpilot> net splat
[05:20] <broken_ladder> mauricio the resolution works fine.
[05:20] <protokol> in case it didnt go through
[05:20] <Madpilot> !tell protokol about java
[05:20] <protokol> !javadeb
[05:20] <ubotu> somebody said javadeb was for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[05:20] <codemech_> graig: Quake III TA rules!
[05:21] <broken_ladder> mauricio i can boot up to gdm fine.  the resolution is fine.  it doesn't display when i log out of x.
[05:21] <broken_ladder> codemech_ really? in linux?
[05:21] <DrZeus> got an error trying to compile kismet: no acceptable C compilers in $PATH
[05:21] <DrZeus> what was that?
[05:22] <mauricio> broken_ladder, hey, I'm just guessing, maybe it works, maybe not
[05:22] <FR500> something happened....
[05:22] <codemech_> broken_ladder_: hell yeah!
[05:22] <Odyssey> sorry... i'm not sure... that wont help you to help me...and i'm very bad with it all... maybe i should go back to windows... :(
[05:22] <FR500> rain`, did you say something i missed it
[05:22] <nalioth> well well well
[05:22] <nalioth> what did i miss?
[05:22] <codemech_> brokenladder: that was my bf talking just then, Hes a Gentoo G33k :-/
[05:22] <mauricio> broken_ladder, i'm not a guru, i'm just trying to help you
[05:24] <DrZeus> still dont get why I get an error compiling kismet
[05:24] <DrZeus> "not acceptable C compilers in $PATH"
[05:24] <broken_ladder> http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/cos_guidelines.html
[05:24] <Odyssey> if i only connect for a few seconds maybe i should contact my provider? or could it be something wrong at my end you think?... will the program you told em about fit on a floppy?
[05:24] <broken_ladder> mauricio thanks dude.
[05:24] <ApesMa> Upgrading my wife's computer from Hoary to Breezy as per wiki instructions, but synaptic complains about 40-something .deb files from kdebase and kdepim that it can't fetch (along with two from libgphoto2 and one from gksu). How should I proceed from here? (/etc/apt/sources.list looks reasonable, though I edited out the CD line.)
[05:25] <budluva> ApesMa, are you using US mirrors?
[05:25] <broken_ladder> ApesMa all instances of hoary changed to breezy?
[05:25] <codemech> Odyssey: yes it will, or better yet a usb memory stick. if you can connect with windows but not linux then it is definatly your end. i would expect that you will get little to *no* help from your ISP if you mention that you are using linux
[05:25] <broken_ladder> ApesMa i remember getting similar problems, so i just dpkg -r the things that were holding it back.  i had to remove openoffice 2 i remember.
[05:25] <r0xoR> no!
[05:25] <ApesMa> budluva: no; I tripped over that one earlier today on my computer, and edited out the us. from the lines. broken_ladder, yes, all hoary changed to breezy.
[05:26] <m477> what is katapult, and what does it do?
[05:26] <FR500> rain`, did you say something i missed it, you asked about my touchpad
[05:26] <Odyssey> ok... i only have floppy disk access atm... where do i get a copy of that program... sorry whats was it again?
[05:26] <broken_ladder> ApesMa can you give us a pastebin page?
[05:26] <ApesMa> broken_ladder: once I google instructions on doing so, I expect I can.
[05:27] <FR500> Odyssey, damn small linux?
[05:27] <Odyssey> yes that and mode suggested a dialer also :)
[05:27] <FR500> oh
[05:27] <basscr> How do i  run an application everytime Blackbox is started?
[05:28] <codemech> Odyssey: goto packages.debian.org and search for wvdial, if its bigger than 1.44MB use "split" command (man split if your unsure) to put it onto more than one floppy. or better yet get a USB mem stick
[05:28] <FR500> do you think breezy with gnome would work with 64mb ram?
[05:28] <codemech> Odyssey: goto packages.debian.org and search for wvdial, if its bigger than 1.44MB use "split" command (man split if your unsure) to put it onto more than one floppy. or better yet get a USB mem stick
[05:29] <Odyssey> i'm using windows right now so how do i use the "split" command?
[05:29] <nalioth> FR500: i do not. use xfce4 or lighter
[05:29] <broken_ladder> ApesMa pastebin.net
[05:29] <broken_ladder> basscr you'd have to edit one of your startup files like .profile
[05:29] <m477> I'd be using DSL rather than Ubuntu, in my opinion
[05:29] <FR500> nalioth, it's a PIV i recovered form scratch 200gb hdd and 64mb ram and a geforce 2 i think
[05:30] <m477> I'd be buyin some ram FR500
[05:30] <mauricio> broken_ladder, you are welcome
[05:30] <nalioth> FR500: methinks you should add some ram to it
[05:30] <Odyssey> code: i'm using windows right now so how do i use the "split" command?
[05:30] <codemech> Odyssey: goto packages.debian.org and search for wvdial, if its bigger than 1.44MB use "split" command (man split if your unsure) to put it onto more than one floppy. or better yet get a USB mem stick
[05:30] <Odyssey> thanx code :")
[05:30] <codemech> Odyssey: goto packages.debian.org and search for wvdial, if its bigger than 1.44MB use "split" command (man split if your unsure) to put it onto more than one floppy. or better yet get a USB mem stick
[05:30] <FR500> nalioth, it uses rimms hard to find em now
[05:31] <nalioth> Odyssey: in windows, rar will split things into specific sizes and compress them
[05:31] <plumpkin> i have a strange problem goin on, i've used k3b before with no problems, but now all of a sudden it wont open for me, no error message or anything, the program just doesnt start, any suggestions?
[05:31] <graig> hello. i got quake 3 installed, and it won't save my profile unless i run it with sudo.
[05:31] <ApesMa> broken_ladder: looking at htt://pastebin.ca/new.php--pastebin.net looks like it's not there. What should I post?
[05:31] <broken_ladder> mauricio where are you from?
[05:31] <nalioth> FR500: obviously i'm missing out on what a PIV is
[05:31] <Odyssey> thanx :)
[05:31] <broken_ladder> pastebin.com i meant
[05:31] <marcoaurelio> plumpkin: run it from console, may be it will throw some usefull message
[05:31] <FR500> nalioth, P4 sorry
[05:31] <broken_ladder> choose no highlighting
[05:31] <Absenth> I don't suppose there are any good ways to add GCC 3.4.5?
[05:31] <Absenth> in breezy
[05:31] <Pickle_Weasel> what's the package to put "Terminal" into the right click menu?
[05:31] <Odyssey> then i simply install it and then what code?:)
[05:32] <Absenth> or, alternatly, any good ways to install vmware on breezy
[05:32] <m477> FR500: a processor is no better than the memory it has to allocate
[05:32] <Odyssey> Codemech: then i simply install it and then what? :)
[05:32] <Pickle_Weasel> no one knows the package name to put "Terminal" into the right click menu in breezy? =\
[05:32] <crimsun> Robi_: catch him in #trilug
[05:32] <FR500> geee, guess i need a lighter desktop environment...
[05:32] <plumpkin> marcoaurelio, it did, i got: kdeinit: Aborting. No write access to '/home/justin/.ICEauthority'.
[05:32] <plumpkin>    it looks like the owner/group of this file is root for whatever reason, ill try changing that
[05:32] <jordan_> hello all, I am trying to get skype to work
[05:33] <FR500> so i guess enlightment is out of question
[05:33] <crimsun> Pickle_Weasel: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[05:33] <m477> it will run on 64mb, but it won't be very pleasant
[05:33] <jordan_> anyone else haveing this problem in Breezy badger?
[05:33] <Coz> Hello All
[05:33] <jordan_> hey coz
[05:33] <bimberi> Absenth: install gcc-3.4, and "export CD=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" before compiling vmware
[05:33] <Odyssey> Codemech: is it as simple to use as a windows based dialer? iputs and setup?
[05:33] <codemech> odyssey_: go to packages.debian.org and search for wvdail
[05:33] <crimsun> bimberi: CC
[05:33] <Coz> Yesterday I was asking if anyone knew how to initiate midi playback on Breezy final
[05:33] <Pickle_Weasel> crimsun, i know that, but i want it back in the right click menu like it was in hoary, there's a package to do this, i just don't remember the name
[05:33] <Odyssey> ok brb
[05:33] <Coz> ] Well I got it to play, sort of
[05:33] <marcoaurelio> plumpkin: try to change or just delete the file (it will be created automatically if needed later)
[05:34] <codemech> odyssey_: no butt its not that difficult
[05:34] <bimberi> Absenth: oops yes "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" (thanks crimsun)
[05:34] <codemech> odyssey_: ok
[05:34] <ajmitch_> Pickle_Weasel: like nautilus-open-terminal ?
[05:34] <Coz> I have to say, again, BeOs, dead since 1999, is more advanced right out of the box for multimedia than breezy is
[05:34] <strummsteel> guys, gud morning
[05:34] <Coz> plays dvds, midi you name it
[05:34] <basscr> How do i  run an application everytime Blackbox is started?
[05:34] <strummsteel> anyone here can help me with a mozilla problem?
[05:34] <FR500> i'm gonna do a clean breezy install on my laptop, do you know if software midi playback will work out of the box?
[05:34] <Coz>  Ilove breezy, but I think it may only be the GUI and not the OS
[05:34] <marcoaurelio> coz: that's not a valid comparison, BeOS rocks!
[05:34] <frank23> Coz: ubuntu is hampered by laws
[05:35] <plumpkin> marcoaurelio, thanks man, that worked :)
[05:35] <Coz> BeOS really Rocks
[05:35] <Pickle_Weasel> ajmitch_, yes, thank you >.>
[05:35] <Coz> What about BeOS? If they could get the licensign so cn Ubuntu
[05:35] <crimsun> Coz: there are some things we can't support out of the box due to patent issues
[05:35] <jordan_> can anyone help me get skype working?
[05:35] <FR500> what was the project to revive BeOS?
[05:35] <EnsignRedshirt> Is there a command to restart an ssh server, or to tell the server to reread the config file?
[05:35] <jordan_> I need to speak with friends in the UK
[05:35] <Coz> comeon! get rights like everyone else
[05:35] <ApesMa> Ack. Later than I thought. I may try uninstalling KDE, upgrading, and then reinstalling KDE. Thanks for help and attention.
[05:35] <FR500> jordan_, just ask
[05:35] <Madpilot> Coz: BeOS must have paid licensing fees...
[05:35] <ApesMa> FR500: wasn't it Haiku?
[05:36] <strummsteel> how do i use mplayer's plugin in mozilla and not TOtem's Plugin
[05:36] <marcoaurelio> plumpkin: you're welcome
[05:36] <FR500> EnsignRedshirt, sudo invoke-rc.d sshd restart
[05:36] <crimsun> EnsignRedshirt: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[05:36] <Coz> Iknow it's expensivbe but hey guys, if you want to compete for the home or small business dekstop or even multimedia you have get these things
[05:36] <newubuntu> hello everyone
[05:36] <FR500> ApesMa, yes i think
[05:36] <crimsun> not sshd, ssh
[05:36] <FR500> ApesMa, it looked cool i think
[05:36] <Absenth> sudo: export: command not found     ?
[05:36] <Coz> there are NO options to this
[05:36] <EnsignRedshirt> FR500, crimsun: In stereo... cool.
[05:36] <ApesMa> FR500: will check it out. Good night, all.
[05:36] <Madpilot> Coz: so you'll donate money to the Ubuntu Foundation toward those licences, right?
[05:36] <marcoaurelio> IIRC, it was a bargain the MP3 licensing for BeOS, not that much expensive
[05:36] <strummsteel> guys? anyone?
[05:36] <bimberi> good thing you're about crimsun :P
[05:36] <FR500> Madpilot, what licences?
[05:36] <marcoaurelio> beos never much money to spend on such things
[05:36] <crimsun> Coz: there's a page devoted to it: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:36] <Coz> absolutely not neither did I donate to BeOS
[05:37] <Coz> yet they found a way
[05:37] <codemech> hey, wot the best music player to use wit linux?
[05:37] <Coz>  the problem is thrid party support
[05:37] <newubuntu> any Mac/ubuntu experts here?
[05:37] <Madpilot> FR500: mp3 and all that crap
[05:37] <bungle> how do I list all the usb devices n stuff
[05:37] <FR500> newubuntu, you're funny
[05:38] <Absenth> still erroring.....  how would I temporarily point /usr/bin/gcc at /usr/bin/gcc-3.4?
[05:38] <bimberi> bungle: lsusb
[05:38] <FR500> bungle, plug them as a ifrst measure if it doesn't work then it's all about what you try to install
[05:38] <Absenth> and after I was done how might I change it back?
[05:38] <graig> beos was not a free os.
[05:38] <nalioth> newubuntu: ask your question, there are several mac users
[05:38] <broken_ladder> Coz what about beos?
[05:38] <Coz> I understand the restricted formats but yet they can, or someone willing to, have apackage that can be downloaded.
[05:38] <broken_ladder> codemech rhythmbox is great as is xmms
[05:38] <crimsun> Absenth: you need build-essential and gcc-3.4 packages installed, then export CC=gcc-3.4
[05:38] <Coz>  For instance, there is apackage called automatix
[05:38] <FR500> codemech, if it works on breezy, bmpx, it rocks
[05:38] <newubuntu> thanks nalioth...
[05:38] <Coz> it downloads everything for midi dvd play etc except for some of the licensed libs
[05:38] <crimsun> yes, bmpx works on Breezy.
[05:39] <Coz> which are readily avaialble
[05:39] <codemech> broken_ladder: can you dl that from the net?
[05:39] <jordan_> Anyone know how to get Skype working in breezy????
[05:39] <broken_ladder> beos was the best os ever, by far.
[05:39] <crimsun> I've built an 0.12RC11 deb, but I'm ironing out the packaging.
[05:39] <Absenth> crimsun already did that.....  the .pl installer is looking at /usr/bin/gcc as the compiler
[05:39] <ajmitch_> Coz: I'd say you're really complaining to the wrong people here
[05:39] <newubuntu> I'm trying out the live cd and am currently running it without problem on a 12" powerbook (happily)...
[05:39] <broken_ladder> jordan_ why would you use skype?
[05:39] <tritium> broken_ladder, I like your lower-case nick ;)
[05:39] <codemech> FR500: can u dl it?
[05:39] <broken_ladder> jordan_ sip is non-proprietary.
[05:39] <newubuntu> ...but I can't get the live cd to work on my imac DV (orange)
[05:39] <crimsun> Absenth: that script is incredibly broken then
[05:39] <Madpilot> Coz: *someone* is still going to be either legally vulnerable or out of pocket a fair bit of money...
[05:39] <nalioth> broken_ladder: good job!
[05:39] <broken_ladder> tritium please don't talk about it.
[05:39] <claydoh> Beos!
[05:39] <FR500> codemech, sure you can
[05:39] <broken_ladder> nalioth please..dont talk about it.
[05:39] <starscalling> what do i need to install to be able to use gmake?
[05:39] <newubuntu> I seem to have a problem choosing the right monistor setting
[05:39] <newubuntu> monitor
[05:39] <nalioth> claydoh: take the beos to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[05:40] <Coz> Breezy cannot make it as a residential or smal business os unless they get these licensing because domeone like me, who builds and reapirs systems is going to make alot of money configuring breezy for home use alone
[05:40] <FR500> what is so good about BeOS?
[05:40] <broken_ladder> claydoh i miss it so much.  unfortunately its reincarnation still sucks.
[05:40] <NsOmNiAc> claydoh why miss it it's still around
[05:40] <crimsun> Coz: this really is off-topic...
[05:40] <broken_ladder> FR500 it was just amazingly fast and responsive, and easy to use.
[05:40] <tritium> broken_ladder, uh, okay...
[05:40] <newubuntu> the monitor goes dark towards the end of loading
[05:40] <Coz> BeOs does almost everything right out of the box
[05:40] <marcoaurelio> starscalling: make?
[05:40] <nalioth> FR500: beos talk in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:40] <graig> beos has spinning teapots.  :)
[05:40] <Odyssey> codemech:... i cant seem to find a download for it...:(
[05:40] <Coz> especially the corporate edition
[05:40] <basscr> what do i have to do to use the scrollball in my serial mouse ?
[05:40] <FR500> nalioth, sorry
[05:40] <broken_ladder> FR500 in beos, you had dynamic file attributes so you could tag any file and search for things much faster than spotlight on mac osx.  queries were live.
[05:40] <Madpilot> Coz: read the front page of the ubuntu homepage, where they mention "free and always free" - BeOS wasn't, I don't think...
[05:40] <hai> quick question, can i use k3b in gnome?
[05:40] <crimsun> hai: absolutely
[05:41] <hai> thanks! = ) that was quick.
[05:41] <broken_ladder> newubuntu you mean it goes to sleep?
[05:41] <claydoh> my hardware has, um outgrown it
[05:41] <Coz> well I have had my say frsutrated s I am I will ply with breezy for another couple weeks and then Back to BeOS
[05:41] <Coz> talk to all later
[05:41] <broken_ladder> newubuntu your monitor shuts off after the text is done with, before going to login?
[05:41] <claydoh> my hw has, well outgrown it
[05:41] <broken_ladder> claydoh yellowtab.com
[05:41] <newubuntu> no, borken_ladder, the screen goes black... I can tell from the sounds and the grinding of the cd that it's running
[05:41] <strummsteel> how do I start a root file browser?
[05:41] <starscalling> marcoaurelio: im trying to configure a source i have... the command is supposed to be gmake says the install.. but it says i cant use the command.. and make does not work for it.
[05:41] <codemech> odyssey: will pass you over to my bf again to answser your question
[05:41] <nalioth> newubuntu: what hardware?
[05:41] <Absenth> crimsun, do I have to sudo the export?
[05:41] <newubuntu> the monitor shuts off right before the final run of text
[05:42] <nalioth> Absenth: you do not
[05:42] <newubuntu> it's an orange imac, 2nd generation, I think
[05:42] <broken_ladder> newubuntu but your sure the monitor is actually "on" still, just displaying black?  the monitor doesn't go to standby?
[05:42] <starscalling> i can get a compiled copy of the .c output i think.. but i dont know if i can just run that :P
[05:42] <Odyssey> sorry sweet i found it thanx :)
[05:42] <broken_ladder> newubuntu that's excatly what i said!
[05:42] <Odyssey> downloading now
[05:42] <codemech> odyssey: url is packages.debian.org/stable/comm/wvdial
[05:42] <nalioth> newubuntu: does the livecd work?
[05:42] <claydoh> broken_ladder: I wait haiku progress :)
[05:42] <Absenth> nalioth, in that case I'm up the river without a paddle :(
[05:42] <newubuntu> the live cd works fine on my 12" powerbook aluminum
[05:42] <Odyssey> codemech:... ummm which one?
[05:42] <codemech> odyssey: ok sweet
[05:42] <broken_ladder> newubuntu i have the same problem sort of.  it was just like that, but now it boots.  but it goes black when i log out of x or try to start a new session.
[05:42] <strummsteel> how do i remove files from the mozilla-plugins if i cant run filebrowser as root
[05:42] <newubuntu> I'm running it on the powerbook now
[05:43] <Odyssey> i got the intel x85 version of ubuntu...
[05:43] <codemech> Odyssey: tell you what...
[05:43] <newubuntu> I think my problem has to do with which monitor resolution I'm choosing
[05:43] <nalioth> Absenth: i'm sorry? export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4  requires no special privleges
[05:43] <FR500> are the ubuntu "aproved" or whatever they call them laptops good?
[05:43] <Odyssey> give up? *laffs*
[05:43] <broken_ladder> strummsteel use sudo?
[05:43] <ajmitch_> codemech: wvdial is in ubuntu, no need to recommend the debian version :)
[05:43] <codemech> Odyssey: your probably just going to run into a whole heap of dependancy problems when you d/l it anyway because its not in the main ubuntu tree
[05:43] <newubuntu> I got it to work once, but the screen image was off center and distorted
[05:43] <strummsteel> yes, but is there an easy way to run it with out going thru the terminal?\
[05:43] <nalioth> FR500: powerbooks and ibooks are great! :p
[05:44] <Odyssey> codemech:... ohh ok
[05:44] <ajmitch_> codemech: from what I can see it is in ubuntu..
[05:44] <jrattner1> How do I play party poker in  linux
[05:44] <batman> hey does anyone know of  a way that i can get flash plugins for firefox?
[05:44] <nalioth> newubuntu: do you have a console if you hit alt-ctrl-f3  ?
[05:44] <codemech> Odyssey: can you network your win98 machine with you linux machine to share the internet?
[05:44] <batman> nevermind
[05:44] <FR500> nalioth, but i kinda preffer x86
[05:44] <newubuntu> I haven't tried that, nalioth
[05:44] <FR500> thats just me i guess
[05:44] <Absenth> nalioth, I was refering to my problem of not being able to install vmware on breezy.  install build-essential and install gcc-3.4 with export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 doesn't solve the problem.....  guess I'll write to the vmware folks and see if they have any suggestions, thanks for the help anyway.
[05:44] <marcoaurelio> strummsteel: look at /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, you will find the files there
[05:44] <ajmitch_> Odyssey: if you're grabbing wvdial, get it from ubuntu..
[05:44] <nalioth> Absenth: try qemu
[05:44] <Odyssey> codemech:... i wish... no this machine is VERY old no usb ports... the other machine is a little newer
[05:44] <crimsun> Absenth: why not just edit the perl script to honor $(CC)?
[05:44] <codemech> Odyssey: ppl say get the ubuntu version. im a gentoo user so they are probably right
[05:44] <FR500> codemech, of course, and if you use linux to connect to internet it's easier/better
[05:45] <Odyssey> ajmitch: is it defaulted into ubuntu already?
[05:45] <whaley> hello: it seems that gnome 2.12 is still hanging on me after a short, variable length of time after logging into ubuntu.  I monitored the the memory and processor utilization (albeit through ps aux) and all looked fine.  I was told to attempt the 686 kernel as well, which also did not work.  Any suggestions?
[05:45] <ajmitch_> Odyssey: it has been in there since warty
[05:45] <Odyssey> codemech: ... so this porlly means i'm already using it :\
[05:46] <ajmitch_> Odyssey: although probably not on the cd
[05:46] <Odyssey> thanx ajmitch :)
[05:46] <crimsun> whaley: is name resolution working properly?
[05:46] <graig> i can crash ubuntu.
[05:46] <whaley> as in hostname?
[05:46] <graig> if  i play neverwinter nights, and watch videos at the same time.
[05:46] <Absenth> crimsun, great idea, but it assumes I have the slightest idea how to code perl.   Nalioth, qemu?
[05:46] <jrattner1> has anyone ever played online poker in linux
[05:46] <Odyssey> ajmitch: so i still need to download it?... can i have a link?
[05:46] <crimsun> whaley: resolving anything
[05:46] <codemech> Odyssey: try typing apt-get install wvdial and see what happens ;)
[05:46] <ajmitch_> Odyssey: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:46] <Odyssey> codemech: where? *laffs*
[05:46] <nalioth> Absenth: a perl script is just a text file, it opens in any text editor
[05:46] <bimberi> Odyssey, ajmitch_: I just checked on my vanilla breezy install and wvdial is there
[05:46] <ajmitch_> oops
[05:46] <whaley> i was able to browse around in a browser, so i assume yes
[05:46] <nalioth> Absenth: qemu is in the repos watch ubotu
[05:47] <nalioth> !info qemu
[05:47] <ajmitch_> Odyssey: packages.ubuntu.com/wvdial, if you need to get it
[05:47] <ubotu> qemu: (fast processor emulator), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 0.7.0-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1783 kB, Installed size: 5332 kB
[05:47] <Pokesomi> hello
[05:47] <propagandhi> !mark
[05:47] <ubotu> A -- MARK -- message is printed in the log every 15 minutes, so you know the logger is running. This is perfectly normal. Your kernel has not been hacked by a danish guy called 'Mark'.
[05:47] <ajmitch_> bimberi: right, I haven't used anything serial for years :)
[05:47] <Pokesomi> i have a ?"
[05:47] <graig> if the system freezes is there a logfile that might tell me why it froze?
[05:47] <bimberi> ajmitch_: hehe
[05:47] <batman> whats a good spyware tool and antivirus tool i can download?
[05:47] <codemech> Odyssey: if you are using gnome press ctrl + F2 and then type gnome-terminal
[05:47] <Odyssey> thanx
[05:47] <nalioth> batman: in linux you have no worries for those things
[05:47] <Pokesomi> May i ask a question?
[05:47] <whaley> Odyssey: did you say you used gentoo?
[05:47] <codemech> Odyssey: then type "sudo apt-get install wvdial"
[05:47] <crimsun> graig: where/when does Linux freeze?
[05:48] <Odyssey> in linux.... so when i load on the other comp with linux use that command?
[05:48] <ajmitch_> codemech: which will fail badly
[05:48] <batman> nalioth: are you sure about that?
[05:48] <adi__> heloo gangg
[05:48] <crimsun> graig: and what type of freeze is it? I presume you mean a kernel one.
[05:48] <codemech> whaley: no sorry that was me that uses gentoo
[05:48] <kevogod> batman, Yes, but there is ClamAV
[05:48] <whaley> ahhh, i'm currently booted into my gentoo install presently
[05:48] <nalioth> batman: i've been using linux since 97 and never have seen a need for any of that stuff
[05:48] <codemech> ajmitch_: ok, what should he do then
[05:48] <whaley> having some stability problems with gnome 2.12 in ubuntu
[05:48] <Pokesomi> can i install ubuntu on a different partition but allow windows to still use the partition?
[05:48] <adi__> i need help about ubuntu plugins....
[05:48] <kevogod> batman, If you are worried about somehow transmitting a virus to Windows users, then use ClamAV or something.
[05:48] <ajmitch_> codemech: synaptic is preferable
[05:48] <adi__> pokesemi..yes u can
[05:48] <codemech> whaley: lucky you, im still waiting for my system to bootstrap, im just installing now. dialup sux
[05:48] <whaley> i seem to remember gnome 2.10 being tempermental here, so it might be my hardware
[05:49] <nalioth> batman: some folks run 'clamav' on their inbound connections so they dont send out any virusses they've unknowingly gotten
[05:49] <whaley> ouch... downloading sources by dialup
[05:49] <whaley> I'm sorry :(
[05:49] <adi__> i need help about ubuntu plugins....
[05:49] <nalioth> batman: there are no known viruses for linux
[05:49] <lui> Seveas, can you give me the address to that script to mount the windows partition, please :)
[05:49] <adi__> totem movie player
[05:49] <klubko> Is here anyone who was lucky with hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC880?
[05:49] <FR500> batman, you would most likely need ClamAv if you share lots of files and such
[05:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lui about ntfs
[05:49] <Odyssey> no... i'm on win98 atm... the other has linux ubuntu 5.04
[05:49] <batman> i see
[05:50] <codemech> ajmitch: sorry, just thought it was easier to explain if i rattled off commands to him rather than trying to navigate his was through synaptic or aptitude ;)
[05:50] <lui> hi nalioth, thanks :)
[05:50] <nalioth> howdy lui
[05:50] <FR500> nalioth, i have always wondered on why no viruses
[05:50] <batman> also i tried to install wine on here and for some odd reason it doesn't run properly
[05:50] <nalioth> FR500: because of several things, join #ubuntu-offtopic for more discussion
[05:50] <FR500> batman, and even if you get infected files it wont harm you
[05:50] <adi__> totem movie player ubuntu make me sick
[05:50] <FR500> ok
[05:50] <adi__> ask about plugins
[05:50] <Odyssey> ok i'm at packages.ubuntu.com/wvdial... which one do i download?
[05:50] <whaley> codemech: I'm tinkering with the idea of ditching gentoo atm, hence my testing of ubuntu as a distro... just gotta solve this gnome 2.12 issue
[05:50] <FR500> adi__, why?
[05:51] <codemech> whaley: LOL yeah one day i will get with the 21st century ;)
[05:51] <adi__> anybody
[05:51] <lui> nalioth, I have no luck upgrading to breezy, I have tried 2 times and always is a mess to me :(
[05:51] <ajmitch_> Odyssey: check with synaptic whether you've already got wvdial installed
[05:51] <whaley> codemech: don't let that discourage you, gentoo is a great distribution
[05:51] <Wry> somebody knows where can i find the standard "sources.list" that comes with breezy?
[05:51] <adi__> can't play mp3
[05:51] <nalioth> lui: what happens?
[05:51] <whaley> i just don't have the necessary time to work with it how I would like
[05:51] <adi__> need some plugins
[05:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Wry about sources
[05:51] <Odyssey> ok you guys prolly hate me... but how do i do that? and i'm guessing i need to be on the machine with linux installed?
[05:51] <kevogod> !tell adi__ about codecs
[05:52] <codemech> whaley: NoooooO!!!! i went to ubuntu for two days and got frustrated to hell. there are so few packages in the main tree
[05:52] <adi__> so how to solve
[05:52] <newubuntu> nalioth (or anyone else)... I'm loading the live cd on my old imac again, and I think the problem stems from my choise of monitor resolution in configuring xserver-xorg
[05:52] <codemech> whaley: i couldn't even get doom III without going outside the main package tree
[05:52] <batman> can someone help me to install wine?
[05:52] <Wry> :)
[05:52] <nalioth> newubuntu: well that would be an easy fix, if it is so
[05:52] <newubuntu> well, nalioth...
[05:52] <adi__> i'm  linuxnewbie
[05:52] <nalioth> adi__: read your private messages
[05:53] <newubuntu> it seems that the default selections are 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480...
[05:53] <adi__> where nalioth?
[05:53] <nalioth> adi__: what irc client do you use?
[05:53] <whaley> codemech: lol! yeah, i don't imagine I'll stay within the main package tree for very long
[05:53] <newubuntu> ...but should I be choosing any other resolutions?
[05:53] <crimsun> batman: enable the universe repository and install wine
[05:53] <adi__> ubuntu server
[05:53] <nalioth> newubuntu: what is the native res of your tube?
[05:54] <batman> crimsun: i have the repositories setup
[05:54] <newubuntu> nalioth: the native resolution is 1024x768
[05:54] <crimsun> batman: then you can use Synaptic to install the 'wine' package
[05:54] <nalioth> newubuntu: then use that one
[05:54] <whaley> codemech: gentoo has a pretty good package system, especially for installing games that come on cds made for windows install like quake/doom
[05:54] <regeya> OIL: ERROR liboiltest.c 247: (): illegal instruction in idct8x8_s16_mmx
[05:54] <FR500> batman, then sudo apt-get install wine
[05:54] <newubuntu> nalioth:  to 'choose' 1024x768, do I leave the asterix next to it, or remove it?  It's a bit confusing
[05:55] <codemech> whaley: i guess in all fairness it just a case of adding more servers to your /etc/sources file (i think it was that, been 3 years since i used debian)
[05:55] <batman> FR500: i did do that but i don't seem to find wine under the toolbar options
[05:55] <FR500> newubuntu, asterix or #
[05:55] <regeya> where where where?
[05:55] <nalioth> newubuntu: leave the asterix next to the one you want (i personally only use one res)
[05:55] <whaley> codemech: it's pretty simple with synaptic, i believe
[05:55] <FR500> batman, :D, open a console and run wine
[05:55] <codemech> whaley: i have never had dependancy problems w/ gentoo's portage, i used to get them all the time with other distros
[05:55] <batman> FR500: how do you run it from console?
[05:55] <whaley> this is true
[05:56] <FR500> batman, wine and press enter
[05:56] <whaley> i understand apt-get doesn't suffer from this as well
[05:56] <newubuntu> nalioth and FR500:  it's an asterix, and when I just have an asterix next to that one resolution, the monitor doesn't seem to work... but I'm going to try it now, and see what happens
[05:56] <adi__> so...
[05:56] <FR500> nothing else
[05:56] <batman> lol i did... hehe
[05:56] <adi__> so how to solve my problem
[05:56] <FR500> whaley, you can have some dep problems
[05:56] <batman> FR500: you can tell i'm still newb to linux :P
[05:56] <codemech> whaley: to a far lesser extent that redhat and mandriva base systems but it still does
[05:56] <FR500> whaley, it's all about what's available on your repositories
[05:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell batman about cli
[05:57] <Pokesomi> how long until 5.10 is released?
[05:57] <lui> nalioth, it always have some strange errors with missing packages, when I resolve that it installs and then I restart the system and the X's doesn't work telling me no device has been found.
[05:57] <FR500> Pokesomi, like -5 days
[05:57] <FR500> :p
[05:57] <Pokesomi> it was release 5 days ago or in 5 days?
[05:57] <broken_ladder> crimsun you around?  i have an alsa question.
[05:57] <codemechs> if a package is in the main tree, all its dependancys should be in the main tree as well IMHO but this is not always the case from what i can see
[05:57] <nalioth> lui: change your sources to plain old "archive.ubuntu.com"/bleh
[05:58] <nalioth> Pokesomi: breezy has been in the wild almost a week now
[05:58] <batman> nalioth: thanks but i've already been here for a while :P
[05:58] <FR500> Pokesomi, was 5 days ago
[05:58] <Pokesomi> ok
[05:58] <Pokesomi> just checking
[05:58] <crimsun> broken_ladder: yes?
[05:58] <nalioth> batman: you can never learn too much
[05:58] <Pokesomi> oh also my other question, are any of the linksys wireless adapters supported?
[05:58] <codemechs> the dumb ones back
[05:59] <adi__> need some plugins
[05:59] <adi__> totem movie player
[05:59] <nalioth> adi__: you have private messages somewhere in your irc client
[05:59] <FR500> Pokesomi, in hoary and warty you needed to patch kernel for the ones that use broadcom adapters
[05:59] <FR500> adi__, you need codecs i guess?
[05:59] <lui> thanks nalioth, I did that, and I had those errors
[05:59] <FR500> Pokesomi, in breezy i'm ot totally sure
[05:59] <newubuntu> nalioth: the imac is loading, and after I get the 'ubuntu' graphic, and a status bar... it runs through the various processes, and then the screen goes black
[05:59] <Pokesomi> ok i will have to test some stuff them and report back
[06:00] <newubuntu> nalioth: There is not an 'ok' after 'starting GNOME display manager'
[06:00] <Absenth> does ubuntu ship with the kernel header files, and if so where might they be?
[06:00] <Pokesomi> i will check back in when i get some cds
[06:00] <broken_ladder> crimsun okay, since upgrading to breezy, i can't get sound from my spdif connection.  this has happened a few times, generally just when i had upgraded like..the kernel or something, which happened in this case it seems.
[06:00] <FR500> Pokesomi, thats a good thing to do
[06:00] <tritium> Absenth, linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:00] <nalioth> newubuntu: do you have a console?
[06:00] <Pokesomi> i will try some stuff out and let you know
[06:00] <newubuntu> nalioth: but I think the program is loaded and running because it plays a nice startup hum
[06:01] <broken_ladder> crimsun sound works through the analog connector, and if i select "analog to iec958" in alsamixer, the red light activates on the fiberoptic.
[06:01] <newubuntu> nalioth:  yes, I called up the console
[06:01] <crimsun> broken_ladder: meaning that any attempt to use ''aplay -Dplug:iec958 foo.wav'' is unsuccessful?
[06:01] <broken_ladder> lemme try that.
[06:01] <adi__> fr500..where i can get codec?
[06:01] <broken_ladder> has to be a wave?
[06:01] <broken_ladder> can it be flac?
[06:01] <necator> is it possible to get winamp on ubuntu if so how do you install it?
[06:01] <newubuntu> nalioth:  what should I look for on the console?
[06:01] <adi__> sorry i'm newbie
[06:01] <cius> Would anyone happen to know why, when I leave my computer on at night playing music while I'm asleep, that I'm awoken by my speakers suddenly shrieking with noise that isn't my music?
[06:01] <crimsun> broken_ladder: must be pcm format; use stdin/stdout conversion
[06:01] <Absenth> tritium,  that's kinda cool, but I was thinking more along the lines of /usr/scr/linux/include
[06:01] <FR500> adi__, go to the ubuntu wiki and look for restricted formats
[06:01] <adi__> so not enough knowledge about it
[06:01] <nalioth> newubuntu: at the console, type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[06:02] <propagandhi> cius: it could be kevin mitnick
[06:02] <Absenth> tritium, which isn't the correct location I don't think....
[06:02] <newubuntu> nalioth:  'k, will try that now
[06:02] <necator> is it possible to get winamp on ubuntu if so how do you install it?
[06:02] <tritium> Absenth, the linux-kernel-headers ?
[06:02] <crimsun> necator: try beep-media-player or xmms
[06:02] <FR500> necator, you would need wine at least or crossover office
[06:02] <cius> propagandhi, nah, I just kill esd and it stops, don't think mitnick would be foiled so easily
[06:02] <nalioth> newubuntu: it's called 'xmms' and you use synaptic to install all your software
[06:02] <necator> do they support internet radios?
[06:02] <broken_ladder> crimsun you genius!  it works.
[06:02] <propagandhi> cius: too true
[06:02] <animepunkW> any one know any good free windows emulators
[06:02] <broken_ladder> crimsun it's playing at the wrong speed though.
[06:03] <nalioth> animepunkW: qemu
[06:03] <Absenth> tritium. the question I'm looking at on my terminal is "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?"
[06:03] <necator> crimsun do those support internet radios?
[06:03] <broken_ladder> crimsun so why the heck won't alsa use it?
[06:03] <FR500> necator, get bmp and streamtuner
[06:03] <codemechs_gf> cius: sometimes that happens to me yet not every nite i'm yet to find out y that is?
[06:03] <animepunkW> thanks Nalioth !
[06:03] <FR500> necator, then in streamtuner you can configure it to open bmp when you select streams
[06:03] <newubuntu> nalioth: when I run sudo apt-get -f install   it says:  Reading package lists... Done  and then Building dependency tree... Done
[06:03] <broken_ladder> crimsun i cannot tell you what a genius you are.
[06:03] <nalioth> animepunkW: qemu is available in the repos
[06:03] <bliggy> hello again :D
[06:03] <tritium> Absenth, if you install the linux-headers-`uname -r` package, they should be under /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build, I believe
[06:03] <frank23> Absenth: install linux-kernel-headers
[06:03] <nalioth> newubuntu: and then?
[06:04] <FR500> is qemu like vmware?
[06:04] <bliggy> can someone tell me how I would go about editing xorg.conf from a command line in recovery mode?
[06:04] <newubuntu> nalioth:  and then 0 upgraded, 0 newlin installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[06:04] <cius> codemechs_gf, its really annoying, because its so loud I have to get up and turn it off.  Thing is, last night, I got up to turn it off and suddenly it just quit.  I thought it might have something to do with a cron job or something, but I can't figure it out.
[06:04] <Absenth> frank23, tritium AhA....    sorry, must be caffeine deficient
[06:04] <bimberi> bliggy: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:04] <newubuntu> nalioth: sorry 'bout the typos:  0 newly installed
[06:04] <bliggy> bimberi thank you sir
[06:04] <animepunkW> Nalioth: awsome, i was just about to check , thanks again buddy
[06:04] <FR500> bimberi, beat me....
[06:04] <broken_ladder> crimsun if you could maybe just tell me how, then, to get alsa to work with it again, i'd appreciate it.  it seems since upgrading to breezy, something has changed with alsactl and it reports errors trying to use my old config file.
[06:04] <bimberi> bliggy: yw sir :)
[06:04] <frank23> Absenth: get those chocolate covered coffee beans
[06:04] <frank23> ;-)
[06:04] <bimberi> FR500: ha
[06:05] <FR500> bbl
[06:05] <tritium> Absenth, :)
[06:05] <nalioth> newubuntu: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose a resolution that you suspect may work
[06:05] <MaxFrost> okay...video question here.  I have a radeaon 9000m, and I wish to use my external moniter...any pointers?
[06:05] <bliggy> i'm off to try... thanks guys
[06:05] <cius> oh well, thanks to those who replied and night all
[06:05] <adi__> fr500... yes and then
[06:05] <codemechs_gf> cius: thats wot i thought but i dont know i have asked that same question several times with no one ever able to give me any help that actually works.
[06:06] <newubuntu> nalioth:  I'll try taht... hold on
[06:06] <broken_ladder> crimsun don't die on me buddy, i need you at this important juncture.
[06:06] <necator> ok i downloaded xmms how do i install it ive never installed someting before on ubuntu.
[06:06] <crimsun> broken_ladder: sec, active in another channel
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> necator,  you normally dont download it. :P just 'sudo apt-get install whatever'
[06:07] <_chavo> qt2, apt-get install *
[06:07] <necator> ooo
[06:07] <Shadowline> any suggestions as to what repository to use in place of the the one stated in the topic ?
[06:07] <necator> i keep forgeting about that apt-get thing
[06:07] <adi__> fr500 open already wiki ubuntu
[06:07] <necator> its like some wonder tool lol
[06:07] <qt2> _chavo: i dont want to actually DO it, i want to know how much it'd take
[06:07] <qt2> <.<
[06:07] <adi__> waiting for further info..heheheheh
[06:07] <m477> does that working? :P
[06:07] <necator> dr willis is everything in apt get? like anytime i need somehting i can jsut go there?
[06:07] <broken_ladder> crimsun i'll wait patiently.
[06:07] <_chavo> qt2, I know, that command won't actually work
[06:08] <nalioth> necator: if you've used syaptic you dont need to d/l anything
[06:08] <codemechs_gf> necator: dr willis??
[06:08] <nalioth> necator: synaptic makes things easy
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> necator,  time to read a few apt-get docs/howtos :P
[06:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell necator about synaptic
[06:09] <dazvid> if i were to stop gdm, would my networking still run ?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> apt-get is a very well done system/tool
[06:09] <necator> i am going to read all of ubuntuguide.com this weekend but i just needed some music to go to sleep tonight :p
[06:09] <newubuntu> nalioth:  OK, I think I ran through a bunch of xserver stuff.... so now what do I do?
[06:09] <crimsun> broken_ladder: which conffile, /var/lib/alsa/asound.state?
[06:09] <bimberi> dazvid: yes
[06:09] <dazvid> kool
[06:09] <dazvid> thanks
[06:09] <nalioth> newubuntu: did you select the resolutions you wanted?
[06:09] <broken_ladder> crimsun yup
[06:09] <nalioth> necator: please dont do that
[06:09] <newubuntu> nalioth: I believe I did, but I'm still in the console, so I'm not sure if it worked
[06:09] <leetcharmer> has anyone tried installing Prelink here?
[06:09] <nalioth> necator: if you are using breezy, ubuntuguide is not for you
[06:10] <frank23> necator: read all of the wiki instead
[06:10] <frank23> leetcharmer: I use prelink
[06:10] <nalioth> newubuntu: log into teh gui and see ctrl-alt-f7
[06:10] <frank23> leetcharmer: I don't see a huge performance in performance
[06:10] <broken_ladder> crimsun this has happened often.  even first using the spdif i had problems.  every time i get it working and save a backup of the asound.state, it stops working when i upgrade quite often.  restoring the state does not fix the problem.  when the problem eventually goes away it is completely unclear what fixed it.
[06:10] <leetcharmer> frank23, how long did it take to install?
[06:10] <necator> is breezy the new one? i am using the newest one
[06:10] <dazvid> Yes breezy is the new one
[06:10] <newubuntu> nalioth: how do I log into the gui? (sorry, I'm very much a newbie)
[06:10] <nalioth> necator: then ubuntuguide will not do you any good
[06:10] <necator> o
[06:11] <crimsun> broken_ladder: try: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe <your driver>
[06:11] <necator> my friend told me to read that =(
[06:11] <nalioth> newubuntu: read my last post to you
[06:11] <frank23> leetcharmer: intalling is guick. running prelink the first time takes a while... maybe 30 minutes
[06:11] <necator> what do i read then nalioth?
[06:11] <broken_ladder> crimsun how do i know what to modprobe?
[06:11] <newubuntu> nalioth: when I do ctrl-alt-f7, the screen goes black again
[06:11] <crimsun> broken_ladder: cat /proc/asound/modules
[06:11] <nalioth> necator: newubuntu then type "ctrl-alt-backspace"
[06:11] <broken_ladder> crimsun you are sick
[06:11] <leetcharmer> frank23, wow :/ yeh -- I guess that's why this is takin' so long
[06:11] <leetcharmer> I thought somethin' was broke
[06:11] <nalioth> necator: as pointed out by frank23, read the wiki
[06:12] <DrZeus> Hi all.  How do I do to lower the speed and sensitivity of my touchpad? also to eliminate the double-click emulation of tapping the touchpad?
[06:12] <necator> where is the wiki so i can read it this weekend and what does that ctrl alt backspace do b4 i press it
[06:12] <nalioth> necator: wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:12] <newubuntu> nalioth: that brought me to    Starting periodic command scheduler
[06:12] <necator> cool xmms is working
[06:12] <necator> time to get some sleep!!
[06:12] <necator> thanks for help guys and thx for wiki link nalioth ill save it.
[06:13] <nalioth> newubuntu: no login or anything?
[06:13] <Amaranth> nalioth: alacarte working good?
[06:13] <newubuntu> nalioth: no, no login or anything
[06:13] <nalioth> Amaranth: dunno havent d/l it yet
[06:13] <Amaranth> oh
[06:13] <newubuntu> nalioth:  maybe I can't run this on the imac?  I've go the latest breezy live cd?
[06:13] <DrZeus> Hi all.  How do I do to lower the speed and sensitivity of my touchpad? also to eliminate the double-click emulation of tapping the touchpad?
[06:13] <Amaranth> !touchpad
[06:13] <ubotu> Amaranth: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:13] <Amaranth> hrm, it was worth a shot
[06:14] <nemik> i got my PCI serial (RS 232) expansion card to work! it assigned ports to ttyS14, ttyS15, ttyS50, and ttyS51 instead of ttyS2/3/4/5 like i thought! woohoo!
[06:14] <nalioth> newubuntu: there could be several things wrong, but it's not the imac
[06:14] <nemik> still drove me insane till i found that out though
[06:14] <DrZeus> what is !touchpad? some commando or something like that?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> DrZeus,  edit the xorg.conf (backup your original first!)
[06:14] <nalioth> newubuntu: is this livecd or installed?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> DrZeus,  !commands activate the url feature of the bot.
[06:14] <DrZeus> !touchpad
[06:14] <newubuntu> nalioth:  it's the livecd... I wanted to try it with the live cd before I installed anything
[06:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, DrZeus
[06:14] <codemechs_gf> DrZeus: are you using kde or gnome?
[06:15] <DrZeus> gnome
[06:15] <nalioth> newubuntu: ah. now it starts to make sense
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> DrZeus,  of course what changes to make is the question.   of course kde/gnome may have a few controlls intheir control panel to do some of the tweaking.
[06:15] <Revilyeknom> hmm
[06:15] <nalioth> newubuntu: did you verify your md5 checksums on the disk?
[06:16] <newubuntu> nalioth: I ran the same disk on my newer mac 12" aluminum powerbook and it worked great
[06:16] <broken_ladder> crimsun no dice.  the sound works fine on the analog output
[06:16] <DrZeus> i tried the GUI control but it made no changes at all
[06:16] <nemik> is it the PPC version, not x86, right?
[06:16] <Madpilot> has anyone else had mono crash/freeze when xscreensaver shuts the screen down?
[06:16] <DrZeus> Dr_Willis, so I need to edit xorg.conf?
[06:16] <m477> what decoders do I install for mp3 playback in kaffeine?
[06:16] <codemechs_gf> DrZeus: there is a place that will help you sorry can't remember that one buudy
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> DrZeus,   yes. it seems so.
[06:16] <crimsun> broken_ladder: paste amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:16] <strannik> Hello guys, could somebody tell me one thing?
[06:16] <strannik> I have just installed ubuntu about 10 minutes ago...
[06:17] <strannik> was using suse 9.2
[06:17] <DrZeus> at least can you remember if it says in the explanation lines it has where is the speed setting?
[06:17] <nalioth> newubuntu: then i'd suspect hardware
[06:17] <DrZeus> Dr_Willis, codemechs_gf , just for not changing the wrong thing
[06:17] <strannik> i did not have the chance to get kubunto, so how could i install kde on ubuntu?
[06:17] <broken_ladder> crimsun if i run that aplay command you told me about earlier, the red light on my optical cable comes on, and ends as soon as the song is stopped.
[06:17] <nalioth> strannik: install "kubuntu-desktop"
[06:17] <newubuntu> nalioth: if it's the hardware, then I guess I shouldn't try installing ubuntu on that imac!  It does run Mac OSX fine, however
[06:17] <m477> strannik: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> DrZeus,  thers will be several mouse/input device entry 'paragraphs' - i suggest googling a little for some examples.
[06:18] <strannik> thank you very much =)
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> strannik,  thats a kubuntu faq #1 question. :P
[06:18] <nalioth> newubuntu: you may find it works better on the install. my ibook g3/600 works great
[06:18] <strannik> just read the unofficial faq for ubunto and it did not have it
[06:18] <bimberi> strannik: it'll be a hefty download in itself
[06:18] <DrZeus> Dr_Willis, I edited that sometimes while using slackware for choosing the correct driver for the mouse
[06:18] <newubuntu> nalioth:  OK.... when I've got time and won't get too frustrated, I'll try running a full install and we'll see what happens
[06:18] <strannik> don't worry about the download...i have unlim traffic
[06:19] <broken_ladder> crimsun http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3328 <-- THANK YOU
[06:19] <dreamwave> hi.  is there a gui program to manage grub?
[06:19] <newubuntu> nalioth:  I may also post in the forums to see if anyone else has had trouble loading ubuntu on that particular model of imac
[06:19] <DrZeus> this touchpad is giving me a hard time
[06:19] <bimberi> strannik: k :)
[06:19] <sandis> Hi! Update manager spits out this error: W: GPG error: http://lv.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[06:19] <sandis> . Could somebody explain what does this mean?
[06:19] <newubuntu> nalioth:  thanks very much for taking the time to help me here, I really appreciate it!
[06:19] <odd-> hmm
[06:20] <nalioth> newubuntu: np, it's what i'm here for
[06:20] <strannik> very nice chat....thank you all for it...i like it a lot better than suse
[06:20] <crimsun> broken_ladder: ice1724 driver?
[06:20] <abydos> eek
[06:20] <strannik> thanks again and bye
[06:20] <abydos> I'm confused about raids
[06:21] <abydos> if I have 3 9.1GB SCSI disks in a RAID-5, how much total storage space would that leave me?
[06:21] <Amaranth> i thought RAID-5 needed 4 or more disks
[06:21] <broken_ladder> crimsun uh..that's my other card.  that's an m-audio delta
[06:21] <broken_ladder> crimsun  i think
[06:21] <graig> hmm, i think 9.1 gigs?
[06:21] <printf> im having trouble connecting to my wireless access point.  i can see the SSID and it shows a strong signal but when i try to connect to it, i just get a continuous scrollbar...any suggestions?
[06:22] <graig> no wait im not sure.
[06:22] <abydos> Amaranth:  I was under the impression it only needed an odd number
[06:22] <abydos> graig:  that would most likely be raid-4
[06:22] <Amaranth> i thought it needed an even number
[06:22] <crimsun> broken_ladder: does iec958 work better than plug:iec958?
[06:22] <abydos> graig:  I do know that raid-4 uses least common denominator to determine the total size of the array
[06:22] <broken_ladder> crimsun better?
[06:23] <frank23> Amaranth: I thought raid-5 can be anything more than 2 disks
[06:23] <crimsun> broken_ladder: sampling rate, etc.
[06:23] <Amaranth> *shrug*
[06:23] <crimsun> broken_ladder: you mentioned wrong speed
[06:23] <Amaranth> i thought RAID-5 was 2 disks striped together and then mirrored on the other two
[06:23] <frank23> Amaranth: plus one for parity
[06:23] <codemechs_gf> frank23: that sounds right to me too
[06:23] <budluva> hrmm does ubuntu not detect my cpu properly on install? im using an athlon xp 2400 cpu but have a -386 kernel image, would it be wise to switch to -k7?
[06:24] <ecobuntu> can you get extensions for galeon?
[06:24] <Amaranth> all i've used is raid-0, striping
[06:24] <broken_ladder> crimsun they both play too fast.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> budluva,  i think the -386 is the standard fail-safe default. may benifit from the otehrs.
[06:24] <Amaranth> so don't listen to me :)
[06:24] <broken_ladder> crimsun two frets too fast.  a whole step.
[06:24] <Amaranth> budluva: there isn't room on the cd for all those kernels
[06:24] <budluva> Dr_Willis, but the -k7 image is for XP processors right?
[06:24] <abydos> raid-0 can lead to catastrophic failure if one disk goes down
[06:25] <dazvid> budluva, I have amd 2600+ and im using the -386 kernel
[06:25] <Amaranth> budluva: so it installs the -386 one since it will work on them all
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> budluva,  no clue there.
[06:25] <Amaranth> budluva: -k7 is what you want
[06:25] <abydos> and given this machine's primary function, having some redundancy is a Good Thing (tm)
[06:25] <budluva> Amaranth, thanks :P
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> budluva,  im not even sure how much of a preformace hit you get from ust using 386
[06:25] <abydos> it's to be a media server, based on videolan
[06:26] <DigitalHobbit> so is the topic still correct and the US mirrors are broken? that would probably explain my 404 errors doing an update...
[06:26] <abydos> a good use for a mediocre P1-166/75mb RAM
[06:26] <codemechs_gf> hey will word run on linux?? i kinda need it
[06:26] <abydos> ...
[06:26] <abydos> codemechs_gf:  word will not run on linux
[06:26] <budluva> Doonz, whats up man? :P
[06:26] <abydos> codemechs_gf:  use openoffice.org
[06:27] <crimsun> broken_ladder: hmm. Were you using an ~/.asoundrc before?
[06:27] <codemechs_gf> abydos: can i transfer files that i have in word to open office?
[06:28] <DigitalHobbit> if so, can anyone recommend a reliable and fast US mirror? looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive right now
[06:28] <abydos> codemechs_gf:  yes, OOo runs word files quite handily
[06:28] <a_monkey> codemechs_gf: if you use wine, you can run word
[06:28] <broken_ladder> crimsun i have that file but it has almost nothing in it, and i've never known of its existence until know.
[06:28] <abydos> aaand wtf this machine isn't booting from cd
[06:28] <abydos> it gets to where it should boot and then it reboots
[06:28] <Madpilot> codemechs_gf: OOo will read and save in MS formats
[06:28] <crimsun> broken_ladder: you might want to check http://alsa.opensrc.org/ice1724
[06:28] <codemechs_gf> a_monkey: wine?
[06:28] <a_monkey> codemechs_gf: if you really want to use word you can install wine
[06:28] <printf> anyone good with connecting to wireless access points?
[06:29] <broken_ladder> crimsun what would that have to do with my sound card?
[06:29] <a_monkey> codemechs_gf: winehq.com
[06:29] <broken_ladder> crimsun isn't that the m-audio delta you're referring to?
[06:29] <codemechs_gf> a_monkey: cheers dude
[06:29] <crimsun> broken_ladder: which driver are you currently using?
[06:29] <broken_ladder> crimsun that's not the card with the problem.
[06:29] <a_monkey> codemechs_gf: the screenshot on the home page even shows wine running word. :)
[06:29] <broken_ladder> lemme look
[06:29] <crimsun> (aside from snd-ice1724)
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> word 4.0 :P
[06:30] <codemechs_gf> Madpilot: so i will be able to change between word and OO?
[06:30] <Madpilot> codemechs_gf: yes, of course.
[06:30] <broken_ladder> 1 snd_intel8x0
[06:30] <broken_ladder> crimsun the card with the optical out is my onboard ac97 or whatever.
[06:30] <crimsun> broken_ladder: you gave me amixer output for which card, though? It looks like the ice1724's.
[06:31] <broken_ladder> crimsun and it certainly kicks into effect when iec958 is used with aplay.
[06:31] <codemechs_gf> Madpilot: sweet, thanks a lot kinda just getting my head round linux :)
[06:31] <abydos> rarrrgh
[06:31] <broken_ladder> crimsun oh i thought that was for everything.  how do i specify it?
[06:31] <abydos> this machine is acting like the CDROM is eating too much power
[06:31] <Madpilot> codemechs_gf: OO will also export stuff as PDF files, which is quite cool. I send my invoices out as PDF these days
[06:32] <crimsun> broken_ladder: cat /proc/asound/modules lists the index of the driver corresponding to the device #. amixer [-c0 is assumed, but you can pass -c1, etc.] 
[06:32] <abydos> wellp, I'll just have to try ubuntu, but tell it to not install jack
[06:32] <abydos> actually, not install anything at all without prompting me
[06:32] <abydos> because I want this machine as barebones as possible
[06:33] <codemechs_gf> Madpilot: it seems a lot harder to get set up but onces things are set up it seems a lot easier :) Sweet thas a huge help, it normallt takes me ages to do invoices
[06:33] <broken_ladder> crimsun it appears that the card numbers referred to by amixer are the opposite of the convention alsa uses.  alsamixer has the ac97 ich5 one as card 0, whereas with amixer it's 1, and the maudio is 0.
[06:33] <trinitrogen> When sudo'd into root in a terminal, I give the nautilus command and get "(nautilus:8008): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[06:34] <codemechs_gf> are there many chicks in here?
[06:34] <crimsun> broken_ladder: ...that doesn't seem possible
[06:34] <Madpilot> codemechs_gf: It won't make doing invoices any faster, but it gives you more options for delivering them
[06:34] <Madpilot> ;)
[06:34] <bimberi> trinitrogen: if you must run nautilus as root, do a "sudo nautilus" in a non root shell
[06:34] <broken_ladder> crimsun it's the truth.
[06:34] <codemechs_gf> coz i feel really dumb asking these questions i feel real blonde (they seem so simple to others)
[06:35] <trinitrogen> bimberi: I just upgraded to breezy today from hoary. I like in hoary how I could just open up a root termnal, can I do that with Breezy?
[06:35] <codemechs_gf> Madpilot: ok wot options does it give you other than sending in pdf?
[06:35] <broken_ladder> crimsun oh wait.
[06:35] <broken_ladder> crimsun it appears that reloading the drivers i just loaded them in the opposite order.
[06:36] <broken_ladder> crimsun so know alsamixer does indeed correspond to it.
[06:36] <nalioth> bimberi: opening a root nautilus isn't a good idea
[06:36] <broken_ladder> one sec crimsun lemme paste the right card into pastebin
[06:36] <broken_ladder> crimsun http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3329
[06:36] <Knelix> Guys, any good app to quickly make movies of the desktop?
[06:36] <Madpilot> codemechs_gf: OO can save docs in a pile of different formats... various versions of MS Word/Office/Works, other word processors, etc
[06:36] <bimberi> trinitrogen: "sudo -i" in a normal terminal, or set up a launcher that does "gksudo gnome-terminal"
[06:37] <bimberi> nalioth: i know, that's why i said "f you must run nautilus as root"
[06:37] <Knelix> I am trying to take quick movies of Celestia in action.
[06:37] <bimberi> s/"f/"if/
[06:37] <ksmurf> anyone have any ideas why I cannot access ( i can access but no screen) another terminal on a laptop f1-f6 have a blanked screen f7 is the only one I can work in.  During boot I can but as soon as the xsever starts nada.
[06:38] <crimsun> broken_ladder: ok, then you probably need to create an ~/.asoundrc for your intel8x0 card. See the intel8x0 driver section on the wiki that I pointed you to.
[06:38] <codemechs_gf> Madpilot: ok, mite go and get that then it looks like its the way to go then if i can use it for a verious no of task :) although it will be a new programme to use :( but i guess i will have that with a new (and hopefully better) system
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> ksmurf,  framebuffer device may be messing with the other displays.
[06:38] <dazvid> codemechs_gf, if you are on ubuntu, you will already have open office
[06:39] <dazvid> codemechs_gf, goto applications > office
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> ksmurf,  or its some odd X/console issue - ive seen a few of those in the past
[06:39] <a_monkey> codemechs_gf: yep. it comes with it
[06:39] <broken_ladder> crimsun is this something new with breezy?
[06:39] <broken_ladder> crimsun i never had to do this before and it always worked (with occasional disruptions)
[06:39] <codemechs_gf> dazvid: ok then will just try that now then thanks :)
[06:39] <broken_ladder> crimsun this would seem to mean that every user would have to have this file to use spdif.
[06:40] <crimsun> broken_ladder: no, it's not new for Breezy. You shouldn't be having the issue.
[06:40] <ksmurf> can I disable the frmebuffer.  If so how?
[06:40] <codemechs_gf> bye bye all
[06:40] <printf> anyone here use BX?  i havent used it for some time... back when i had command line slack...
[06:41] <sampan> printf, i don't use bx ... tried it for about two hours and switched to irssi -- never looked back
[06:42] <broken_ladder> crimsun i don't see realtek in the card matrix.
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> ksmurf,  could boot and not go into X and see if the consoel works..    not sure of the simplist way to do this for a beginner.
[06:42] <printf> is irssi command line?
[06:42] <strannik> Hello guys, a little time ago, on my question on how to install the kde on ubuntu, i got an answer to do this: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> printf,  yes
[06:42] <strannik> i got error message:
[06:42] <broken_ladder> crimsun Card: Intel ICH5                                                                                                           Chip: Realtek ALC650F
[06:42] <broken_ladder> printf yup
[06:42] <ksmurf> How do I keep from going into X....
[06:42] <strannik> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[06:42] <strannik> i suspect that my /etc/apt/sources.list is incorrect
[06:43] <sampan> printf, yeah -- it's console (text) only
[06:43] <ksmurf> if I can't kill gdm?
[06:43] <broken_ladder> ksmurf you could just change your run level so there's no gui login.
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> ksmurf,  could try the rescue mode, or edit the grub entry  and append 'single' to the end.
[06:43] <sampan> printf  if you installed breezy, it's already on there i think
[06:43] <broken_ladder> Dr_Willis no that's a terible hack.
[06:43] <tritium> broken_ladder, that's not how debian/ubuntu work
[06:43] <printf> yeah i just installed breezy today
[06:43] <broken_ladder> tritium there's a runlevel in ubuntu.
[06:44] <crimsun> broken_ladder: realtek makes the ac97 codec, not the dsp.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> gdm is started as a service by the rc2.d  runlevel last i looked
[06:44] <broken_ladder> okay, so it's intel then i guess.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> could disable that also.
[06:44] <sampan> printf, it should be installed :)  i usually run it in 'screen' -- so open it via term: screen irssi
[06:44] <tritium> broken_ladder, yes, there are runlevels, but changing the runlevel is not how to avoid gdm login
[06:44] <sampan> but then again, i'm on kde, not gnome
[06:44] <ksmurf> What is the option DPMS in xorg for?
[06:44] <printf> but im havibg trouble connecting to my access point...will breezy connect to WPA-PSK?
[06:44] <strannik> i installed Hoary Hedgehog
[06:44] <stephen_> How do I change the color of my desktop icon fonts?
[06:45] <ksmurf> would that option have anything (DPMS) to do with it?
[06:46] <ksmurf> I just commented it out and I'll try and reboot brb
[06:46] <broken_ladder> stephans well that would be more of a gnome issue specifically but..
[06:47] <dabaR> Hey, My firefox slows down my system very much, in that when I drag my other windows I see multiple pictures of the window...http://dabar.selfip.org/z.png <-screenshot, also, it crashes. It is since the breezy upgrade.
[06:47] <printf> i take it ubuntu and wireless are about as easy as any other dist and wireless
[06:47] <budluva> anyone know how to pass an xsession command before usplash boots up? ie my monitor is really old and shitty, so i have to run this command before my gnome session starts (xgamma -d :0 -gamma 3.0) to get my monitor to the right brightness, but usplash is dark and very hard to read, just wondering how i can pass this command for usplash
[06:47] <stephen_> printf: Actually, wireless under ubuntu is pretty painless
[06:47] <broken_ladder> stephans that's a good question actually.  i checked under fonts and that doesn't change color, just size and actual font.
[06:48] <stephen_> i have a crappy mini-pci Ralink card in one of my computers, and even that works flawlessly.
[06:48] <stephen_> Yeah, broken_ladder, that was where I looked immediately
[06:48] <stephen_> I've toyed with my theme config file.
[06:48] <broken_ladder> budluva you couldn't put those settings in xorg.conf?
[06:48] <budluva> broken_ladder where in xorg.conf?
[06:48] <printf> stephen_: then why can i see my access point SSID but when i try to connect it just scrolls and will not connect?
[06:48] <broken_ladder> dabaR your computer isn't old and slow is it?
[06:48] <stephen_> printf, open a console and type iwconfig
[06:49] <stephen_> what does it say?
[06:49] <strannik> when i type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop i get the following error: E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[06:49] <strannik> could somebody help me install it please????
[06:49] <printf> the box is powered down as of now..been messing with it all day...in WIn now
[06:49] <broken_ladder> crimsun so you don't see any apparent reason why aplay works but selecting alsa doesn't work through spdif?
[06:49] <Discipulus> ubuntu use Alsa or OSS?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> strannik,  try a 'apt-cache search kubuntu' and see if its mentioned.
[06:49] <stephen_> Disc: Ubuntu can use either.
[06:49] <sampan> strannik, i was getting that same error for a while from the repos -- then suddenly this morning it went through just fine
[06:50] <dabaR> broken_ladder: no, not at all. and it did not do this before the upgrade.
[06:50] <dabaR> no posts on the forum on this.
[06:50] <evilroot> Anybody willing to tep me through a few things?
[06:50] <printf> stephen_: what are some things to try when i get back into ubuntu?
[06:50] <dabaR> evilroot: just ask.
[06:50] <evilroot> First up:  Paritioning
[06:50] <stephen_> printf: Try setting all the options manually with iwconfig
[06:50] <dabaR> printf: use System.out.println is one suggestion :P
[06:50] <budluva> broken_ladder where in my xorg.conf would i put that xgamma line?
[06:51] <stephen_> use lsmod to check that your wireless cards module is detected properly
[06:51] <animepunkW> anyone know why i get an error "warning: could not open /dev/net/tun: no virtual network emulation
[06:51] <animepunkW> " when running qemu
[06:51] <broken_ladder> budluva that's something i'm really not sure of, but it seems likely that you could do it that way.
[06:51] <evilroot> The Wiki mentions a "NewWorld" partition but then doesn't tell you what that is
[06:51] <strannik> ok, that didn't give me anything.
[06:51] <strannik> i mean the 'apt-cache search kubuntu command
[06:51] <dabaR> evilroot: you need a new world partition for yaboot, and one for ubuntu, and one for swap. the yaboot one can be even 10 MB, afaik.
[06:51] <strannik> the thing is that I am behind a proxy server
[06:51] <evilroot> Aight
[06:51] <tritium> strannik, kubuntu-desktop is in main.  Have you done a sudo apt-get update?
[06:51] <stephen_> My card has a little glitch where you actually have to deactivate and reactivate the card every time I reboot to get it to work.  I 'm sure I could automate a script to do that, but, too lazy
[06:52] <dabaR> evilroot: its an option for the partition type/file system, in the MacOS X partitioner that comes with the installation CD for OSX.
[06:52] <strannik> i am in a lan and i put the proxy settings in using the config. editor
[06:52] <evilroot> So 10mb yaboot, 4gb Ubuntu ext3, 1gb swap, and the rest to OS X
[06:52] <printf> stephen_: i'll try that stuff thanks...its been a headache, i can see all 3 of my access points but cannot connect to them
[06:52] <ksmurf> ok recovery mode had no issues and I'm back and still no go
[06:52] <strannik> tritium, yes i have done it
[06:52] <strannik> serveral times...just to make sure =)
[06:53] <stephen_> What brand of card is it?
[06:53] <evilroot> Should I install Tiger or Ubuntu first?
[06:53] <stephen_> And is this a laptop you're talking about?
[06:53] <dabaR> tiger, I would think.
[06:53] <evilroot> Yes, laptop
[06:53] <dabaR> evilroot: when talking to me, prepend the msg with my nick, like so<---
[06:53] <printf> stephen_: its a mini pci card in a emachine laptop (not sure of brand of card)
[06:53] <stephen_> Eesh. You might wanna look for a custom driver.
[06:54] <stephen_> It might be the same ralink mini-pci card I have
[06:54] <evilroot> I'm assuming Airpor won't be supported -.-
[06:54] <animepunkW> tiger might wright over your bootloader , if you install tiger 2nd . i know windows dose grr
[06:54] <dabaR> evilroot: airport extreme - no. same here.
[06:54] <evilroot> dabaR:  ugh, figures
[06:54] <ispiked> sup, bitches.
[06:55] <dabaR> see you later ispiked
[06:55] <strannik> so what could be the problem with it?
[06:55] <ispiked> dabaR: I was just joking. Chill out.
[06:55] <printf> stephen_: so i may still see the access points and signal strength even though my card may not be properly installed?
[06:55] <tritium> ispiked, please don't use that language here
[06:55] <stephen_> I had that problem with a Linksys PCI card
[06:56] <evilroot> Aight, so 4 paritions . . . . Tiger installed first
[06:56] <stephen_> I have a nother linksys card that automatically freezes the computer whenever you put it in.
[06:56] <bimberi> strannik: put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin ...
[06:56] <printf> i need to pull the card and chack the brand...
[06:56] <evilroot> dabaR:  I'm aware of how to use nicktab
[06:56] <sri> hi all
[06:56] <bimberi> !pastebin
[06:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:56] <sri> does xchat or xchat-gnome segvault for you guys on breezy?
[06:56] <sri> it segfaults immediatelyfor em.
[06:56] <dabaR> evilroot: good.
[06:56] <stephen_> I'm using xchat right now, sri.
[06:56] <strannik> sorry, english is not my native language, what is pastebin?
[06:57] <sri> stephen_: so I'm at a loss as to why it's breaking for me.
[06:57] <bimberi> ubotu tell strannik about pastebin
[06:57] <stephen_> Well, if you could find out what brand of card it is, that'd help
[06:57] <stephen_> brb, just upgraded to xchat-gnome
[06:58] <evilroot> dabaR:  does Tiger need to be on a certain partition, or does it care?
[06:58] <screevo> xchat-gnome works fine with me.
[06:58] <evilroot> IE Primary vs. extended
[06:58] <screevo> <-stephen
[06:58] <sri> interesging.
[06:58] <sri> I removed some gconf crap
[06:59] <sri> and it seems to be more stable.
[06:59] <sri> ha,spoke toosoon
[06:59] <sri> it died
[06:59] <sri> stephen2: thanks for trying it out
[06:59] <sri> I would suspect that xchat crashing would be a big deal. :)
[07:00] <printf> is there a list of sys req's for ubuntu?
[07:00] <stephen2> Yes
[07:00] <strannik> bimberi, ok got the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d3330
[07:01] <stephen2> 32 megs ram, 350 mb HD space for a minimum install (1.8 for a typical)
[07:01] <stephen2> processor speed doesnt have a specific requirement.
[07:01] <tritium> sri, it would be, if it was happening to multiple people
[07:01] <stephen2> But, your probably gonna have the most luck with something over a 1gHz.
[07:01] <sri> tritium: indeed
[07:01] <sri> I think it has somethign to do with my .xchat2 dir
[07:01] <tritium> perhaps
[07:02] <bimberi> strannik: ok, you need to edit that file and uncomment all lines beginning with "deb http....".  Then "sudo apt-get update" and try installing kubuntu-desktop again
[07:02] <sri__> this is me on xchat-gnome
[07:02] <sri__> wow
[07:02] <sri__> I'm working
[07:02] <sri> get out of here
[07:02] <GNULinuxer> fabbione: any idea when Rosetta will be free?
[07:02] <sri> "there can be only one"
[07:03] <printf> i have read that if winXP will run on a machine fine, ubuntu will have no prob...true?
[07:03] <evilroot> hrm
[07:03] <evilroot> seems like dabaR disappeared
[07:03] <strannik> bimberi, thanks
[07:03] <stephen2> Printf: Ubuntu probably requires less than WinXP
[07:03] <printf> ok
[07:03] <bimberi> strannik: yw :)
[07:03] <stephen2> But yeah, if XP can run, ubuntu can run
[07:03] <printf> i figured...most linux dist's do
[07:04] <stephen2> i mean, I have an Athlon 3000+ with a gig of ram and an GeForce 6600GT, so, I don't usually have problems with system requirements
[07:04] <tritium> printf, but not all devices are supported
[07:04] <sri> oaky, someone in xchat-gnome try to turn on the perl plugin
[07:04] <sri> and see if it crashes
[07:04] <strannik> bimberi, is there any where else that i should enter my proxy information for apt-get to work normally?
[07:05] <fabbione> GNULinuxer: nope
[07:05] <printf> the only device in question would probably be my dlink pcmcia wireless card
[07:05] <stephen2> Perl Interface Loaded
[07:05] <stephen2> no problems
[07:05] <GNULinuxer> fabbione: ok.
[07:05] <sri> weird.
[07:05] <sri> it totally crashes for me.
[07:07] <strannik> ok, i'm now getting this error message: Err http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release.gpg
[07:07] <strannik>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.138), connection timed out
[07:07] <strannik> i have a proxy through which i get my internet , it is 192.168.1.1:3128, where else do i put it in so that apt-get will work.
[07:08] <stephen2> If you can get to webpages, your repos will work
[07:08] <bimberi> strannik: you can add a line like "export http_proxy=http://user:pass@address.of.proxy:port" to .bashrc (or /etc/profile to apply to all users)
[07:08] <bimberi> strannik: that's .bashrc in your home directory btw :)
[07:09] <bimberi> strannik: test it first with "export http_proxy=http://192.168.1.1:3128" in the shell before you apt-get
[07:09] <synackuator> my 0 key doesn't work once in gnome - i think i jacked something in keyboard shortcuts even though nothing is showing
[07:09] <synackuator> anyone know how to reset keyboard shortcuts via a conf file somewhere?
[07:10] <strannik> ok bimberi, gonna try it now, just really don't like using gnome, i am really not used to it
[07:10] <ksmurf> It was xscreensaver that was causing my terminal issues
[07:12] <fliplr> so is anyone sucessfully using the gnome bluetooth file manager in 5.10?
[07:12] <Orborde> Can someone help me sort out some streaming media stuff?
[07:13] <fliplr> i can transfer files to/from my phone, but none of the gnome bluetooth apps that ship with 5.10 work
[07:13] <ispiked> Orborde: what's your question?
[07:16] <carl> Hey, can anyone tell me how to setup an irc server?
[07:17] <Orborde> ispiked: Never mind. I figured it out. I was trying to get an mp3 stream to work.
[07:17] <Absenth> Ubuntu keeps it's kernel headers in?  /lib/modules/%kernel version%
[07:17] <Absenth> ?
[07:17] <Orborde> ispiked: Mplayer's mozilla plugin downloaded the file and played it, and only got the first 20 seconds.
[07:17] <Orborde> ispiked: I added the URL as an Internet Radio Station in Rhythmbox, and that's working fine.
[07:18] <carl> nevermind, I figured it out
[07:18] <ispiked> Orborde: cool.
[07:18] <carl> How do you make yourself an admin on your irc server?
[07:18] <ispiked> Absenth: I think you spelled your name wrong. ;)
[07:18] <Absenth> ispiked, you're one of maybe 100,000 people who actually get it :)
[07:19] <evilroot> Odd
[07:19] <tritium> Absenth, did you install linux-headers-`uname -r`?
[07:19] <Absenth> ispiked, it's spelled wrong just for that reason.  :)
[07:19] <evilroot> When I try to partition this drive it won't let me use hda1
[07:19] <Absenth> tritium, yeah, it says they are already installed.
[07:19] <strannik> bimberi, i added the line to .bashrc that you told me and now i get error message:
[07:19] <evilroot> its an unknown FS of 0 size
[07:19] <nalioth> evilroot: you cant manipulate a mounted drive
[07:19] <carl> can anyone test if my irc server works for me?
[07:19] <strannik> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:19] <strannik> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:19] <evilroot> Is not mounted
[07:19] <tritium> Absenth, dpkg -L linux-headers-`uname -r` will tell you where they are.  There should at least be a symlink under /lib/modules/`uname -r` named build
[07:20] <bimberi> strannik: did you sudo?
[07:20] <evilroot> Should I be using a different utility to repartition a Mac disk?
[07:20] <carl> Can you guys see my messages?
[07:20] <evilroot> carl:  No, no we can't
[07:20] <carl> Ok, just checking
[07:20] <ispiked> carl: yes.
[07:20] <carl> lol
[07:21] <pirate> hi guys, im new to ubuntu, a friend of mine used my computer i dont what she did but everytime i click minimize the whole window disappears
[07:21] <carl> So... who here are Ubuntu developers?
[07:21] <Absenth> tritium, thanks man.....
[07:21] <tritium> sure
[07:21] <strannik> i did export sudo apt-get update and that is the error message that i got
[07:21] <ispiked> pirate: oooh. sounds pretty nasty.
[07:21] <pirate> how do i restore it
[07:21] <ispiked> pirate: is it still in your alt+tab index?
[07:22] <bimberi> strannik: export?
[07:22] <bimberi> strannik: just "sudo apt-get update"
[07:22] <ispiked> pirate: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74987
[07:22] <pirate> i dont follow you ispiked
[07:22] <ispiked> pirate: haha, that's you.
[07:22] <pirate> alt-tab?
[07:22] <ispiked> pirate: that's your thread, no. alt+<tab>
[07:23] <ispiked> pirate: as in the tab key.
[07:23] <strannik> bimberi, i did just that i i got the error message that i pasted
[07:23] <Absenth> it's a bit burried, but I found it.....  tritium, I was about 45 seconds away from having to duct tape my head together....    :)  thanks
[07:23] <bimberi> strannik: ok, is there another apt process running (such as synaptic)
[07:23] <bimberi> ?
[07:23] <broken_ladder> crimsun what if i were to use aplay to access my music somehow, say by piping it.  can you think of any reason it might be playing the music too fast?
[07:23] <tritium> heh
[07:23] <pirate> ok
[07:23] <strannik> nope, wait a sec i'll check just to make sure
[07:23] <ispiked> pirate: so, is that your thread that I linked to?
[07:24] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[07:24] <strannik> bimberi, no nothing else is running.
[07:24] <jhank> hi! has anyone installed lufs?
[07:24] <jhank> i've got no idea what to do with the lufs-source
[07:24] <ispiked> pirate: check out that link I gave you.
[07:24] <pirate> gona try the task switcher now like what was suggested on the thread
[07:24] <ispiked> pirate: apparently it's not you that posted it. :)
[07:25] <jhank> there should be a module loaded
[07:25] <pirate> thanks ispiked
[07:25] <bimberi> strannik: "env | grep http" and check that your proxy variable looks ok
[07:26] <DVSoftware> us.archive.ubuntu.com is broken <---- it seems fine now
[07:26] <jhank> has anyone got an idea?
[07:26] <DVSoftware> it's not :(
[07:26] <strannik> this is what my .bashrc file looks like: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d3331
[07:26] <DVSoftware> last two packages are missing
[07:26] <DVSoftware> damn it
[07:27] <carl> I have a question, can someone answer it? :P
[07:27] <DVSoftware> just ask
[07:27] <strannik> env | grep http gave me out: http_proxy=http://192.168.1.1:3128
[07:27] <carl> Does anyone know of an accessible irc chat client for a friend of mine?
[07:28] <DVSoftware> carl, what kind of accessibility?
[07:28] <carl> For a blind person
[07:28] <ispiked> gaim is big on accessibility, no?
[07:28] <norskfjord> hi
[07:28] <norskfjord> How do I get internet sharing working?
[07:28] <carl> screen reader accessible
[07:28] <norskfjord> from ppp0
[07:28] <DVSoftware> carl: i would use screenreader
[07:29] <bimberi> strannik: hm, that looks fine :|, how about "ps aux | grep apt" (to look for other apt processes)
[07:29] <carl> is that a client?
[07:29] <DVSoftware> carl: nope
[07:29] <carl> He has a screen reader called JFW
[07:29] <DVSoftware> it's application that reads content of the screen
[07:29] <carl> and he wants one that is accessible with an irc client for windows
[07:29] <carl> he is using Jaws for windows
[07:29] <carl> which is a screen reader
[07:30] <DVSoftware> ooops... look at the channel name
[07:30] <DVSoftware> do you see windows somewhere ;)
[07:30] <lui> hey, hey
[07:30] <carl> No, but if there is one for linux there is mostly one for windows :p
[07:30] <lui> what do I need to run wmv in gxine?
[07:30] <carl> but hey, do you know a screenreader for linux that doesn't need a synthysizer?
[07:31] <DVSoftware> lui: winblows codecs
[07:31] <Peps> My network configuration (laptop) hangs for a long time at boot. My guess is it tries to activate eth0 (wireless) even thou it is disabled in /etc/network/interfaces. Can anyone help - it's very annoying
[07:31] <lui> DVSoftware, great! ;)
[07:31] <DVSoftware> Peps: ctrl+c when it hangs
[07:31] <Peps> and manually ifup it. I know - still very annoying
[07:32] <ispiked> Peps: anything relevant in dmesg?
[07:32] <carl> do you know of a screenreader that doesn't need a synthisizer?
[07:32] <lui> DVSoftware, and where I can get it?
[07:32] <Peps> no. In the end it gives up and all is OK, it's just takes more than a minute
[07:33] <mahangu> how do ikill all programs blocking my soundcard?
[07:33] <mahangu> kill all esd says nothing is block
[07:33] <mahangu> realplayer works
[07:33] <mahangu> but mplayer wont
[07:33] <Peps> dmesg  | grep eth0 ==> eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[07:33] <strannik> bimberi, this is what i got when doing ps aux ...: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d3332
[07:34] <ispiked> Peps: it's not wireless, is it?
[07:34] <Peps> eth0 is wireless, eth1 ethernet
[07:34] <Peps> HP is strange
[07:35] <DVSoftware> Peps: essid
[07:35] <ispiked> Peps: and you're sure it's not just trying to find an access point?
[07:35] <bimberi> strannik: there's an "apt-get update" running somewhere
[07:35] <Peps> I am pretty sure it *does* try - I want to disable it!
[07:35] <da_bon_bon> is it recomended to build kernels on ubuntu ? i want a 2.6.13 kernel with suspend2 enabled ..
[07:35] <DVSoftware> well, i have button on my hp
[07:35] <DVSoftware> that turns off wireless card
[07:35] <Peps> what is essid??
[07:36] <DVSoftware> accesspoint name
[07:36] <mahangu> kiling sound anyone?
[07:36] <norskfjord> How do I get internet connection sharing in Ubuntu working from dialup?
[07:36] <Peps> Yes I have the wireless turned off in hardware
[07:36] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: don't ubuntu kernels come with suspend2 already enabled?
[07:37] <da_bon_bon> no, ispiked
[07:37] <DVSoftware> Peps: just one thing come on my mind
[07:37] <carl> If anyone can tell me a good screenreader for linux that doesn't need a synthisizer my friend can use ubuntu!
[07:37] <budluva> can anyone tell me why Device Manager shows my TNT2 card with a PCI bus? when its an AGP card?
[07:37] <DVSoftware> Peps: blacklist kernel module for your wlan card
[07:37] <MM2> I would like to have another screencapture tool than ubuntus default. It should save screencapture automagically to home after pressing hotkey. Any suggestions?
[07:37] <strannik> bimberi,ok tried to kill proccesses through top
[07:37] <Peps> DVSoftware: never did that before - how?
[07:38] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: I thought it had support for hibernating. maybe with acpi or something?
[07:38] <da_bon_bon> ispiked: with swsusp thats in upstream kernel.
[07:38] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: hrm...
[07:38] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: we're talking 5.10 here...
[07:38] <Peps> If I want to post a bug report, where should it go?
[07:38] <da_bon_bon> ispiked: as am i.
[07:39] <DVSoftware> Peps: really dunno
[07:39] <DVSoftware> gtg
[07:39] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: on the live CD it had hibernate as an option.
[07:39] <Peps> DVSoftware: thanks
[07:39] <strannik> bimberi: but that didn't help much, how do i kill the darn process?
[07:39] <ispiked> Peps: what drivers are you using?
[07:39] <bimberi> strannik: try with "sudo top"
[07:40] <bimberi> strannik: or "sudo kill 28641"
[07:40] <da_bon_bon> ispiked: that is using software suspend1 . not 2
[07:40] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: ah.
[07:40] <Peps> ispiked: not sure - nothing in lsmo seem relevant
[07:40] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: what's the difference between 1 and 2?
[07:40] <ispiked> Peps: lspci?
[07:41] <sizzam> any mplayer experts in here tonight?   i can't seem to fix my choppy mpg playback problems
[07:41] <da_bon_bon> ispiked: faster, works, and much more configurable
[07:41] <ispiked> sizzam: maybe in #mplayer?
[07:41] <sizzam> thanks
[07:41] <outz> ubuntu has made a lot of lives easier
[07:41] <outz> i was going to start a fund for the dev team
[07:41] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: hrm... I might be interested in this. :)
[07:41] <outz> to buy them hookers
[07:41] <outz> anyone down?
[07:41] <Peps> ispiked: probably this 0000:02:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 4223 (rev 05)
[07:41] <da_bon_bon> ispiked: i like it very much.
[07:42] <ispiked> Peps: you using ipw2*00?
[07:42] <Chiba> OK, Ubuntu noob here. The docs start with After you've installed Ubuntu but I need help installing it. I keep getting an error where the side of the screen fills up with "Killed" anyone around that is willing to help me?
[07:42] <bimberi> MM2: in breezy the Print key takes a screenshot (see System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts)
[07:42] <ispiked> Peps: lsmod |grep ipw
[07:42] <Peps> lsmod | grep ipw
[07:42] <Peps> ipw2200                71820  0
[07:42] <Peps> firmware_class          9984  1 ipw2200
[07:42] <Peps> ieee80211              23332  1 ipw2200
[07:42] <strannik> bimberi, thanks a bunch, I don't know how much I can thank you. its just really nice when you just installed a distibution and you get so much help.
[07:42] <ispiked> Peps: yeah, you're using ipw, then.
[07:42] <outz> :(
[07:43] <bimberi> strannik: you're welcome :)
[07:43] <Peps> ispiked: is that good or bad :)
[07:43] <sonoud> anyone tried nerolinux?
[07:43] <Peps> sonoud: k3b much better
[07:43] <ispiked> Peps: neither. :)
[07:43] <Peps> ispiked: but does it help?
[07:43] <ispiked> Peps: well... I don't know if what you're seeing is really a bug or not.
[07:44] <Peps> ispiked: I don't think the system should try to start eth0, if ny interfaces file says 'auto lo eth1'
[07:44] <strannik> bimberi: i wonder if there is a way to send beer through telnet for you =)
[07:44] <sonoud> Peps, it just killed my two DVD disks.
[07:44] <ispiked> Peps: yeah.
[07:45] <bimberi> strannik: lol, Ukranian beer? :)
[07:45] <ispiked> Peps: it's probaly not something that shold be filed on ipw2200's bug tracker, then.
[07:45] <evilroot> mmmmmm, beer
[07:45] <Peps> sonoud: k3b or nerolinux
[07:45] <sonoud> Peps, k3b
[07:46] <strannik> ok, so you checked my ip address, always new that i should go through some kind of cgi proxy and fyi, ukrainian beer is one of the best beers of the world, have travelled a lot and my friends have too and they confirme it too...
[07:46] <cafuego_> Is there a cmdline word-to-html converter for Linux?
[07:46] <sonoud> Peps, i had a weird story about k3b. if you want to listen
[07:46] <Peps> sonoud: Have been using k3b for a long time now - not even one coaster so far
[07:46] <oasiao> Hello
[07:46] <Peps> sonoud: weired is good :)
[07:47] <oasiao> is there a web page or does anyone know how  or if you can update hoary to breezy ?
[07:47] <bimberi> strannik: it was only after you said that english wasn't great (except it seems very good to me!)
[07:47] <ispiked> oasiao: download the install Cd for breezy and then choose to upgrade.
[07:47] <Peps> oasiao: look in ubuntu forums
[07:47] <strannik> bimberi: still not good enough, gone for a smoke: i'll die untill the update of the package lists will finish
[07:48] <norskfjord> How do I get internet connection sharing in Ubuntu working from dialup?
[07:48] <ispiked> oasiao: maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[07:48] <oasiao> alright thanks
[07:48] <sonoud> Peps, I keep posting my weird story in all different channels here. so I just try to simplify my story. I burn in k3b. speed is slow. told me succesfully. no error. can't mout in linux. the same error to mout a blank disk. then tried in windows. can't open it. then ask nero to open it. can see the file name list. then use nero to burn nothing. then works.
[07:48] <Peps> norskfjord, get guarddog and guiddog
[07:50] <Peps> sonoud: I assume you tried a different brand of disks?
[07:50] <oasiao> sweet i just figured somethign cool out , thanks , ill be back later to report what i find
[07:50] <oasiao> :)
[07:51] <norskfjord> Peps, apt-get intall guarddog?
[07:51] <Chiba> Anyone willing to help me with some instal problems? I'm pretty new to linux but I've been using computers for about 21 years so I'm not totally dumb about all of this.
[07:51] <Peps> norskfjord, and guidedog
[07:51] <sonoud> Peps, didn't understand what you mean. just clarify some points.  1, I burned two disks in k3b. the same problem. 2, I used nero to burn the broken dvd disk. (burn nothing, no new file). it fixed the broken dvd disk.
[07:52] <topyli> window placement on gnome seems to be broken. it used to remember window positions but now apps start all over the place :(
[07:52] <norskfjord> alright, thanks, how is Ubuntu for winmodem support? or do I have to download drivers?
[07:52] <Peps> sonoud: I understood. Just asked if you tried differnt brands of DVD's. are cdrom's OK?
[07:53] <DShepherd> norskfjord: more than likely...you'll have todownload
[07:53] <topyli> norskfjord: they're not supported, period. you may find drivers from linmodems.org or whatver the site was called
[07:53] <norskfjord> Is Version 5.04 the newest release?
[07:54] <norskfjord> I just got the cds sent yesterday
[07:54] <DShepherd> no 5.10
[07:54] <carl> 5.10 is the latest
[07:54] <topyli> norskfjord: 5.10 just came out
[07:54] <norskfjord> hmm
[07:54] <sonoud> Peps, I only tried RiTek DVD.  The burner is new. i just bought it yesterday. I used k3b to burn cds in my old cd burner before. that was fine.
[07:54] <carl> you have to order again, lmao
[07:54] <carl> I ordered like 18 cds
[07:54] <norskfjord> I love the PPC Live CD, it's great for my G3 iBook because it's hdd is broken
[07:54] <norskfjord> so I can boot that and ssh to my server
[07:54] <carl> who here "works" for Ubuntu?
[07:54] <budluva> how do i know if im using the right graphics card driver? i have an nvidia tnt2 mach64 using breezy im pretty sure that xorg.conf uses the nv module, but for some reason when i run nvidia-settings it doesnt show any info, just ok and close
[07:54] <Peps> sonoud: I would return the burner if I were you and get another brand
[07:55] <Sourceror> I want some programs to be made available for synaptic.
[07:55] <Sourceror> They are speed-reading software and I think that that's pretty cool.  Who do I have to bug to get this done?
[07:55] <Peps> sonoud: I assume you made sure you have the latest firmware?
[07:55] <sonoud> Peps, that is the best brand. what is the latest firmware? what is firmware?
[07:55] <Sourceror> By the way, I searched for them with my copy of synaptic and I have multiverse and universe open.
[07:56] <Peps> sonoud: which brand is it? go to the company site and look for "drivers"
[07:56] <topyli> so is this just my problem or does gnome 2.12 forget window positions while 2.10 used to be so good with window placement?
[07:56] <MM2> bimberi: I know that, but it opens a dialog, I want it to save picture automagically
[07:56] <sonoud> Peps, pioneer 110D
[07:57] <el-stupido> can anyone help me? I am having trouble starting UT
[07:57] <sonoud> Peps, I think that is the latest model. i just bought it yesterday
[07:57] <bimberi> MM2: ah, sorry I don't know 'bout that :|
[07:58] <Sourceror> These programs are called kRSVP and gnomeRSVP and are for the two major desktops.
[07:58] <sonoud> Peps, thank you very much. can you tell me what firmware is?  btw., my computer will be forced shutdown within 2 minutes. i am in university lab.
[07:58] <Sourceror> GUI, whatever.
[07:59] <sonoud> Peps, 80 seconds.
[07:59] <Peps> sonoud: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=148380&page=2
[08:00] <sonoud> Peps, thank you very much. only 60 seconds left. i will shutdown my computer. thanks.
[08:00] <Peps> sonoud: I would try the burner on windows ...
[08:00] <topyli> Sourceror: see if they have packages at the home page. there are no ubuntu packages it seems
[08:02] <el-stupido> anyone plays Unreal Tournament?
[08:02] <Sourceror> It looks like they both may be terribly beta, so maybe that's why they're not synapted.
[08:03] <scribbles> can I get gnomersvp from apt-get?
[08:04] <NsOmNiAc> forgot .. what is the command to install the KDE desktop ?
[08:04] <nalioth> NsOmNiAc: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:04] <NsOmNiAc> sudo apt-get kde-desktop
[08:04] <NsOmNiAc> ahhh ok thanks
[08:04] <BooZee> hello. how could I use a free static host (with a client running on my comp) for dynamic ip ?
[08:04] <NsOmNiAc> why I have no idea
[08:05] <NsOmNiAc> but why not I got enough space
[08:07] <scribbles> so there's a RPM for download from a website, what should I do with it? I have it on my desktop right now
[08:08] <brownie17> can anyone tell me why the following website's instructions which are apparentlky for hoary do not look like my computer? "http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb"
[08:08] <Chiba> OK, anyone know what would cause these errors?
[08:08] <Chiba> [23:19]  <Chiba> init: ^MProcess '/sbin/debian-installer' (pid 12250) exited. Scheduling it for restart.
[08:08] <Chiba> [23:19]  <Chiba> and
[08:08] <Chiba> [23:20]  <Chiba> init: ^MStarting pid 13018, console /dev/vc/1: '/sbin/debian-installer'
[08:09] <Chiba> Was that considered a flood?
[08:09] <nalioth> brownie17: what is the matter with the wine in the repos
[08:09] <Peps> my problem is already looged as Bugzilla Bug 5246
[08:09] <nalioth> Chiba: please read the /topic and use a pastebin or #flood
[08:10] <brownie17> nalioth, too old apparently, i need a newer version to run warcraft 3. warcraft tells me i have windows 95, and it needs 98.
[08:10] <scribbles> do I have to convert RPMs to DEBs?
[08:10] <nalioth> brownie17: hmm, perhaps a change in the configs to make it report win98?
[08:10] <B_166-ER-X> wha..? the update-notifier tells me to download an update...but it get a 404   when trying to download..
[08:10] <nalioth> scribbles: no. rpms are trouble. what pkg are you after?
[08:11] <Chiba> nalioth: Sorry about that. I'm at my wits end here.
[08:11] <scribbles> GnomeRSVP
[08:11] <brownie17> nalioth, yes, but i apparently need the new "cvs" as well. i don't know. feel like helping me? i have a guide, but i don't really understand it. i won't take too much of your time
[08:11] <nalioth> Chiba: a pastebin is longer lasting, as you can see the text is almost scrolled off the screen
[08:11] <Chiba> OK lets try this again then.
[08:11] <nalioth> brownie17: two words: cedega cvs
[08:12] <Chiba> ANyone know what would cause these errors? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3333
[08:12] <rob^lt> !cedega
[08:12] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[08:12] <brownie17> nalioth, two words, no money
[08:12] <brownie17> nalioth, apparently wine is better for this particular program anyway
[08:12] <rob^lt> the link to the cedega cvs howto should be on that page
[08:13] <brownie17> nalioth, oh ok. so it is free? what dopes cvs stand for?
[08:13] <nalioth> brownie17: cedega cvs is free of monetary constraints
[08:13] <nalioth> brownie17: means its a advanced developement version
[08:13] <NsOmNiAc> ok so Kubuntu uses Exim and Ubuntu uses Postfix ?
[08:13] <scribbles> so what would you normally do i fyou come across a gnome pkg you want but its host site has it in RPM?
[08:14] <brownie17> nalioth, well apparnetly i need the the newest win cvs, will that website i showed yuo get me the cvs?
[08:14] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles 99% of the time there is a .deb for the pacakge
[08:14] <scribbles> how do I search
[08:14] <NsOmNiAc> Synaptic ?
[08:15] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles : sudo synaptic
[08:15] <brownie17> nalioth, how come when i follow as closely as i can to that guide, the new repo just doesn
[08:15] <GSnet|Jon> whats a .deb for?
[08:15] <brownie17> nalioth, appear in synaptic?
[08:15] <NsOmNiAc> GSnet|Jon it's a debian package
[08:16] <GSnet|Jon> ah, gotcha. does those install on ubuntu?
[08:16] <NsOmNiAc> yup
[08:16] <NsOmNiAc> Ubuntu was based on Debian <3
[08:16] <GSnet|Jon> oh, i knew it was based on debian, but i kept searching for ubuntu installers.
[08:16] <scribbles> did a search in synaptic and foudn nothing
[08:17] <GSnet|Jon> i feel stupid now, thanks nsomniac
[08:17] <NsOmNiAc> what are you looking for scribbles
[08:17] <NsOmNiAc> ya shouldn't 8-)
[08:17] <scribbles> gnomersvp
[08:17] <NsOmNiAc> and scribbles do you have the Universal repositories setup ?
[08:17] <strannik> after installing kubantu desktop i got a x server config window which told me that i should choose between kdm and gdm
[08:17] <GSnet|Jon> it just feels weird to think you have a handle on the computing world, and then realize all you know is the easy world of windows.
[08:18] <scribbles> yea
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> strannik what do you want to use more KDE or Gnome ?
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles one second
[08:18] <scribbles> thx
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> np
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> <3
[08:18] <strannik> NsOmNiAc kde
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> err <3 Ubuntu
[08:18] <nemik> same here
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> strannik then use KDM
[08:18] <nemik> use it as my server and it is so wonderful 3>
[08:18] <strannik> ok so its just what i thought and i choose kdm
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> yup yup
[08:18] <broken_ladder> crimsun what was that command to force unloading those modules for alsa again?
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> ok scribbles be right back
[08:19] <strannik> so now when i reboot i will login into kde?
[08:19] <NsOmNiAc> well it will give you a choice
[08:19] <NsOmNiAc> there is an option for sessions
[08:19] <NsOmNiAc> choose KDE
[08:19] <NsOmNiAc> 8-)
[08:19] <strannik> great....because gnome for me is not quite a walk in the park..
[08:20] <strannik> i would say a walk in the lions den
[08:20] <mahangu> gnome rocks man
[08:20] <nemik> hell yea, KDE is too busy IMO
[08:20] <broken_ladder> busy?
[08:20] <broken_ladder> it's configurable, so you can make it less busy.
[08:20] <NsOmNiAc> strannik ... KDE is a walk in the park
[08:20] <NsOmNiAc> you want a lions den
[08:21] <broken_ladder> kde is vastly more configurable than gnome.  i just like gnome cause it looks so much better.
[08:21] <NsOmNiAc> try Fluxbox or Windowmaker
[08:21] <NsOmNiAc> or .. what is that other one ..I can't remember
[08:21] <NsOmNiAc> I like E personally
[08:21] <NsOmNiAc> Enlightenment VERY pretty and no icons
[08:21] <NsOmNiAc> YAH
[08:21] <NsOmNiAc> ok scribbles let me find a package for ya
[08:21] <broken_ladder> icons are nice on the panel, for launching.
[08:21] <brownie17> nalioth, when trying to install a package through apt-get, i am asked, "install packages without verification?" can you tell me why, and what will happen if i click no?
[08:21] <mahangu> NsOmNiAc, E is a little hard to setup
[08:22] <strannik> NsOmNiAc i know that kde is a walk in the park..thats why i like it more....since i am using linux for about a month (started using suse 9.2)
[08:22] <broken_ladder> brownie17 because it can't verify them.
[08:22] <NsOmNiAc> naahhh not really mahangu
[08:22] <mahangu> brownie17, it's from a repo it can't verify
[08:22] <brownie17> broken_ladder, is that bad?
[08:22] <NsOmNiAc> ahhh strannik 8-)
[08:22] <mahangu> NsOmNiAc, i tried it once, it was a bit clunky
[08:22] <broken_ladder> brownie17 it happens to me occasionally.  i dunno.
[08:22] <aftertaf> E
[08:22] <NsOmNiAc> 17 or 16 ?
[08:22] <mahangu> brownie17, not generally
[08:22] <strannik> and yes, i have seen for myself that kde is a lot more configurable
[08:22] <mahangu> what did you update your sources.list with?
[08:22] <NsOmNiAc> 17 is still in dev
[08:22] <aftertaf> 17
[08:22] <aftertaf> DR17
[08:22] <mahangu> i dunno
[08:22] <NsOmNiAc> yeahh that would be why
[08:22] <mahangu> i did apt-get
[08:23] <NsOmNiAc> DR17 is still not stable
[08:23] <aftertaf> mahangu:  forget e16 (apt).   E17 is via cvs only
[08:23] <mahangu> ok i go study
[08:23] <mahangu> bb
[08:23] <mahangu> *l
[08:23] <aftertaf> NsOmNiAc:  yeah buts its nice :)
[08:23] <strannik> NsOmNiAc suse is nice, but after yast just didn't want to load sometimes ....
[08:23] <mahangu> ah
[08:23] <NsOmNiAc> I used Suse YEARS ago ... it was easy to setup and I could lock it down so the techs didn't jack things up
[08:24] <NsOmNiAc> then I moved onto BSD
[08:24] <NsOmNiAc> then I came back to Ubuntu
[08:24] <mahangu> i wanna try bsd
[08:24] <mahangu> but scared
[08:24] <mahangu> hardware config etc
[08:24] <mahangu> on this t42
[08:24] <NsOmNiAc> <3 FreeBSD
[08:24] <strannik> NsOmNiAc i home that i can too say in some time that i used suse years ago =)
[08:24] <nalioth> brownie17: all it means is the gpg key didnt match
[08:24] <mahangu> NsOmNiAc, will it be ok with my hardware?
[08:24] <nalioth> brownie17: the programs are still gonna work
[08:24] <NsOmNiAc> you should have no problem
[08:24] <strannik> ok, kde has just finished installation...will a logout do or should i reboot?
[08:25] <NsOmNiAc> BSD works on my archs than any other distro of *NIX
[08:25] <NsOmNiAc> just logout
[08:25] <Sh|fty> BSD :o
[08:25] <nalioth> strannik: if you want to use a particular kde program, look at your menu
[08:25] <NsOmNiAc> wait
[08:25] <brownie17> strannik, logout will be fine
[08:25] <NsOmNiAc> your wanting the GUI though right
[08:25] <nalioth> strannik: if you want to immerse yourself in kde, logout and choose 'kde desktop' from the sessions menu
[08:25] <NsOmNiAc> yup yup
[08:25] <mahangu> NsOmNiAc, what do you reccomend
[08:25] <mahangu> free, open
[08:26] <mahangu> which flavour
[08:26] <Sh|fty> net
[08:26] <mahangu> not really
[08:26] <mahangu> GUI
[08:26] <strannik> thanks everybody....you are all great
[08:26] <NsOmNiAc> ohhh yeahh and scribbles here ya go sir/maam http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=63741
[08:26] <mahangu> i have ubuntu for that
[08:26] <strannik> quit
[08:26] <Sh|fty> oh :(
[08:26] <NsOmNiAc> on Sparc machines I use NetBSD
[08:26] <NsOmNiAc> on my X86 machines I use FreeBSD
[08:26] <Sh|fty> net net net net :D
[08:26] <mahangu> hmm
[08:26] <mahangu> ok so i guess free is good
[08:26] <NsOmNiAc> but we are in Ubuntu so I'm changing the subject
[08:26] <mahangu> hey Madpilot
[08:26] <arpan> hi, any breezy users here?
[08:26] <mahangu> yah sure
[08:26] <NsOmNiAc> hehe
[08:26] <mahangu> NsOmNiAc, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:26] <scribbles> what do I do with the deb file?
[08:26] <broken_ladder> can someone help me.  i can use my spdif connection with aplay -D iec958 , but not with alsa.
[08:26] <ofpc> Hello to all
[08:26] <arpan> i am a little lost by the breezy
[08:27] <arpan> badger
[08:27] <Sh|fty> Linux tab 2.6.12-1-386 #1 Tue Sep 27 12:41:08 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:27] <broken_ladder> breezy is mucking up my life.
[08:27] <el-stupido> Couldn't run Unreal Tournament (ut-bin). Is UT_DATA_PATH set? <-- what does this error mean?
[08:27] <Sh|fty> iam no ubuntu user :)
[08:27] <brownie17> what is freeBSD
[08:27] <broken_ladder> el-stupido it obviously refers to some settings file for urt
[08:27] <broken_ladder> broken_ladder an operating system.
[08:27] <ofpc> Exist in Ubuntu a software like cool edit, for example to mix music?
[08:27] <arpan> can anyone give me his working sources.list?
[08:27] <broken_ladder> broken_ladder it is a posix compliant unix-like operating system similar in concept to linux.
[08:27] <arpan> i can't install most of the apps
[08:27] <broken_ladder> brownie17 i meant you.
[08:28] <el-stupido> broken_ladder: How can I fix it?
[08:28] <NsOmNiAc> unix like ??
[08:28] <NsOmNiAc> it IS UNIX
[08:28] <NsOmNiAc> not unix like
[08:28] <ofpc> Exist in Ubuntu a software to mix music like cool edit, for example?
[08:28] <Phr0zenKore> err..
[08:28] <brownie17> broken_ladder, ok
[08:28] <Phr0zenKore> how do i play encoded dvd's? it crashes, but i don't know if regionset is such a good idea//
[08:28] <Phr0zenKore> ...
[08:28] <broken_ladder> el-stupido i have never used it, so i would just suggest you look for some documentian that talks about urt settings files, and look for a file with the term UT_DATA_PATH in it.
[08:28] <broken_ladder> ofpc audacity.
[08:28] <broken_ladder> ofpc ardour
[08:29] <el-stupido> okay
[08:29] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles did you get that ?
[08:29] <scribbles> NsOmNiAc, do I just OPEN from firefox?
[08:29] <broken_ladder> ofpc jammin
[08:29] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles save as
[08:29] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles save in your home directory
[08:29] <broken_ladder> Phr0zenKore you might just try a gui program like totem
[08:29] <Phr0zenKore> broken_ladder: which i have.
[08:29] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles : then when downloaded .. sudo dpkg -i packagename
[08:29] <broken_ladder> Phr0zenKore gmplayer -zoom is also a good choice.
[08:29] <ofpc> broken_ladder: audacity or Jamin?? OK what Is good?
[08:29] <broken_ladder> Phr0zenKore hmm..i'm no expert so i can't think of what else you could try.
[08:30] <Phr0zenKore> no guys, i mean it crashes when i want to play the dvd
[08:30] <broken_ladder> ofpc i think audacity is great, but jamin is supposedly much more powerful.
[08:30] <Phr0zenKore> and i read the guide
[08:30] <broken_ladder> never used it.
[08:30] <Phr0zenKore> so i enabled encrypted
[08:30] <Phr0zenKore> and then..... it crashed upon me
[08:30] <Phr0zenKore> so i installed regionset
[08:30] <broken_ladder> Phr0zenKore okay, if you run thoggen with a dvd in the drive, does it work?
[08:30] <Phr0zenKore> but i don't know how to control that beast
[08:30] <broken_ladder> Phr0zenKore if thoggen doesn't work it could be a hardware issue.
[08:30] <Phr0zenKore> thoggen?
[08:31] <broken_ladder> Phr0zenKore it's a very simple dvd ripper.  it encodes to the superior ogg theora format.
[08:31] <ofpc> broken_ladder.. Thanks.. How can i install that? where I can find? my english is not very good sorry..
[08:31] <Phr0zenKore> ahh..
[08:31] <Phr0zenKore> wait, i didn't have gstreamer codec installed
[08:31] <broken_ladder> ofpc apt-get install audacity jamin, etc
[08:31] <broken_ladder> sudo apt-get install jamin
[08:31] <broken_ladder>  < -- ofpc
[08:31] <Phr0zenKore> still freezes upon me
[08:31] <broken_ladder> no way!
[08:32] <broken_ladder> thoggen freezes.
[08:32] <broken_ladder> ?
[08:32] <Phr0zenKore> no
[08:32] <Phr0zenKore> totem freezes
[08:32] <Phr0zenKore> thoggen does very well
[08:32] <Phr0zenKore> :)
[08:32] <broken_ladder> so obviously it's not a hardware problem.
[08:32] <ofpc> broken_ladder: Ok.. Thanks I will try
[08:32] <broken_ladder> i mean your drive works fine and apparently any driver issues are okay.
[08:32] <Phr0zenKore> yea, problem with codecs.
[08:32] <brownie17> nalioth, what is the difference between winex and wine? is there one? which is better? if a a guide says i need wineX is it imparitive?
[08:33] <broken_ladder> hmmm.. Phr0zenKore have you installed restricted formats?
[08:33] <scribbles> thx NsOmNiAc !
[08:33] <Phr0zenKore> broken_ladder: yup
[08:33] <broken_ladder> Phr0zenKore man..  tough one.  you've done everything i can think of.
[08:33] <ofpc> broken_ladder: I find in Symaptic that.. Thanks very much
[08:33] <brownie17> nalioth, i need to make a "fake windows directory" where can i do this?
[08:33] <el-stupido> broken_ladder: How do i do a search for that file?
[08:34] <Phr0zenKore> but i forgot this one command: gst-register-0.8
[08:34] <Ekushey> i just installed ubuntu... why isn't samba installed with it?
[08:34] <Phr0zenKore> and it still freezes upon me
[08:34] <Phr0zenKore> :(
[08:34] <scribbles> get it from the repos
[08:34] <carl> How do I host a domain name on my computer?
[08:34] <Ekushey> i need to run samba
[08:34] <brownie17> nalioth, do you know wherei can get a guide on how to do this?
[08:34] <Sh|fty> Ekushey: sudo apt-get install samba
[08:35] <lasindi[lappy] > Hello everyone, how do I get colored text when I do "ls" in a terminal on Ubuntu?
[08:35] <carl> Anyone know how I can go about hosting domain names on my Ubuntu server using Apache?
[08:35] <Sh|fty> Ekushey: also http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver
[08:35] <mwe> lasindi[lappy] : Isn't it disabled by default?
[08:35] <propagandhi> lasindi[lappy] : have u got a box of coloured pens or pencils and some whiteout?
[08:36] <Ekushey> Sh|fty: thanks a lot! :)
[08:36] <lasindi[lappy] > mwe, it looks like it.
[08:36] <Sh|fty> mine is coloured :s
[08:36] <Sh|fty> and i didnt change anything :s
[08:36] <carl> Do I have to run a DNS Server to host a domain name on my computer?
[08:36] <bob2> carl: install apache2. copy /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to foo.com, edit it and 'sudo a2ensite foo.com'
[08:36] <bob2> carl: no
[08:36] <Madpilot> My "ls" text is coloured too - blue for directories, white for files; somethign is green too, can't remember what
[08:36] <bob2> executables
[08:37] <Sh|fty> try ls -l
[08:37] <bob2> no
[08:37] <bob2> ls -l --coor=auto
[08:37] <Ekushey> Sh|fty: cool, it's installed now! i'll be back if i face problems running it! thanks again!
[08:37] <brownie17> can anyone tell me how to make a "fake windows directory" for wine?
[08:37] <Sh|fty> ls -l --color=auto
[08:37] <Sh|fty> Ekushey: :)
[08:37] <Sh|fty> color needs to be spelt right :p
[08:38] <lasindi[lappy] > bob2, Sh|fty, with the --color=auto option it works.
[08:38] <scribbles> NsOmNiAc, now when I go to Applications -> Other -> GnomeRSVP it starts and says Starting GnomeRSVP in the taskbar then the window closes and nothing happens
[08:38] <Sh|fty> brownie17: it should auto be made
[08:38] <lasindi[lappy] > So how do I get it to do that without the option?
[08:38] <mwe> lasindi[lappy] : you need alias ls='ls --color=auto' in ~/.bashrc
[08:38] <carl> so I have to copy the file default and rename it to foo.com?
[08:38] <lasindi[lappy] > mwe, ok thanks.
[08:38] <brownie17> Sh|fty, i uninstalled, and reinstalled with a new cvs, but now i need to re-create it. i know it sohlud be there, but that's beside the point. it isn't, and i need it. you know how?
[08:38] <Ekushey> Sh|fty: i just shared a directory, now i want to share my printer as well... how do i do it?
[08:39] <lasindi[lappy] > mwe, do I also need to put that in ~/.bash_profile?
[08:39] <bob2> carl: yes
[08:39] <mwe> lasindi[lappy] : no
[08:39] <carl> how do I point the domain name to my server?
[08:39] <nalioth> brownie17: have you been here? http://www.winehq.com/site/howto
[08:39] <Ekushey> Sh|fty: what would be the path? /dev/something?
[08:39] <lasindi[lappy] > ok
[08:39] <Sh|fty> Ekushey: sorry cant help you there :(
[08:39] <brownie17> nalioth, nope, thankyou
[08:39] <Ekushey> Sh|fty: ok lemme try
[08:40] <mwe> lasindi[lappy] : unless you changed it, ~/.bashrc is sourced from ~/.bash_profile
[08:40] <bob2> carl: you get the dns admin to do it for you
[08:40] <Sh|fty> brownie17: i dont use wine so idont know its setup, try googling
[08:40] <carl> I can rename the dns servers myself
[08:40] <Sh|fty> googleing*
[08:40] <carl> I just need to know how to point it to my server
[08:40] <lasindi[lappy] > mwe, ah
[08:40] <bob2> carl: that makes no sense at all
[08:40] <bob2> carl: talk to whoever is in charge of dns for that domain
[08:40] <bob2> carl: if it's you, then you need to go learn how dns works
[08:40] <bob2> carl: then you'd add an A record for www.blah.com pointing at your webserver
[08:40] <carl> can I use my local ISPs dns?
[08:41] <bob2> carl: as above
[08:41] <Ekushey> Sh|fty: can u pls tell me where can i find my printer? where does it go after installing?
[08:41] <Sh|fty> carl: http://www.howstuffworks.com/dns.htm
[08:41] <Sh|fty> Ekushey: i dont own a printer and have never used one on linux so sorry cant help you there
[08:41] <Sh|fty> i will look into it
[08:43] <arpan> has anyone managed to get skype working on breezy badger?
[08:43] <bob2> get the static tarball
[08:43] <strannik> ok. loaded in kde, could somebody please point me in the direction where i can set the driver for the monitor
[08:43] <bob2> there's no such thing as a monitor driver
[08:43] <bob2> just tell us what your actual goal is
[08:43] <el-stupido> anyone plays UT on linux?
[08:43] <Bilskinir> el-stupido: do you?
[08:43] <NsOmNiAc> el-stupido I have
[08:43] <brownie17> nalioth, i am getting an error, can i show you in #flood?
[08:44] <NsOmNiAc> not under Ubuntu though
[08:44] <el-stupido> NsOmNiAc: I am running into trouble mate.. i have installed the game using the linux installer but it gives me an error
[08:44] <scribbles> NsOmNiAc, its in my menu system now, but when i run it it says Loading GnomeRSVP then disappears
[08:44] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles : what exactly does it do .. I'm not familiar with it
[08:44] <NsOmNiAc> ??
[08:45] <Knorrie> Ekushey: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing.html
[08:45] <NsOmNiAc> el-stupido what error ?
[08:45] <strannik> ok, the thing is that currently, i have 640x480 at 60 herts and i can't change it
[08:45] <NsOmNiAc> BBIAB
[08:45] <el-stupido> NsOmNiAc: i'l paste it just a sec
[08:45] <bob2> strannik: ?
[08:46] <el-stupido> grr the link in the toppic doesnt work?
[08:46] <Ekushey> thanks Knorrie
[08:46] <Sourceror> How do I install a .rpm file?
[08:46] <strannik> bob2, the current resolution that i am working with is 640x480 and i can't change it
[08:46] <el-stupido> NsOmNiAc: using pastebin
[08:46] <bob2> el-stupido: there are 6 urls in the topic
[08:46] <bob2> Sourceror: of what?
[08:46] <strannik> it just will not let me, that is the only choise i have
[08:46] <brownie17> anyone familiar with setting up wine to have a "fake windows directory"? i am haveing trouble, keep getting the following error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3334
[08:46] <bob2> strannik: that has nothing to do with monitor drivers
[08:46] <Robi> rpm -Uvh .rpm
[08:47] <bob2> strannik: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:47] <bob2> Robi: no, that won't do anything useful
[08:47] <Knorrie> Ekushey: i did a google search on 'share linux printer' ;)
[08:47] <el-stupido> NsOmNiAc:  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/398425
[08:47] <NsOmNiAc> el-stupido link
[08:47] <strannik> bob2 sorry if that was a stupid question.. =)
[08:47] <NsOmNiAc> k
[08:47] <Sourceror> It's a program called GnomeRSVP, bob2.  I installed it from a .tgz file, but it won't run, so I'm looking for ways to make it work.
[08:47] <NsOmNiAc> one second
[08:47] <el-stupido> ok
[08:47] <Robi> bob2, ya alien
[08:48] <bob2> Sourceror: "won't run" is not a very complete description of the problem
[08:48] <scribbles> Sourceror: you can just download the deb to your home dir, then sudo dpkg -i file
[08:48] <Robi> ZzZz
[08:48] <lightstar> anyone has experience with ubuntu Xorg crashing after a few hours of usage?
[08:49] <Xyc0> Hello everyone
[08:49] <el-stupido> any idea NsOmNiAc ?
[08:49] <Ekushey> Knorrie: my printer is connected to the ubuntu machine, and i want to print from the windows machines... this faq shows how to print to a windows printer :(
[08:50] <NsOmNiAc> hmmm el-stupido dirname --help
[08:50] <brownie17>  ever single time i try to run wine, i get the following error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3334 someone please help me
[08:50] <Xyc0> Im gonna upgrade my laptop memory, what would work better, two 512 mb ram or one 1 gig and 1 512 mb
[08:50] <Sourceror> I don't see the .deb version of it, scribbles :/
[08:50] <el-stupido> NsOmNiAc:  ok
[08:50] <Knorrie> Ekushey: i quote from the introduction: "..and how to share Linux printers with Windows PCs"
[08:51] <Xyc0> brownie17: In terminal cd to the exact directory of the program
[08:51] <brownie17> Xyc0, i did that
[08:51] <brownie17> Xyc0, that is not the problem
[08:51] <Sourceror> I'm trying to hack a way for this silly little program to run.  I have it installed, but when it's run I get this"Can't locate Gtk.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/bin/gnomersvp.plx line 10."
[08:51] <el-stupido> NsOmNiAc:  and?
[08:51] <Sourceror> Oh jeez sorry 4 flood.
[08:52] <bob2> Sourceror: that's pretty clear.
[08:52] <bob2> Sourceror: use packages.ubunut.com to find out which package contains Gtk.pm, and install it using synaptic
[08:52] <bob2> Xyc0: the latter gives you 1.5GB, the former 1GB...
[08:52] <Xyc0> brownie17: did you exicute wine with a full address?
[08:53] <Xyc0> bob2: I am going for speed, not size
[08:53] <el-stupido> NsOmNiAc: you there?
[08:53] <bob2> Xyc0: so, you did the calculations and found whatever tiny speed difference there is is greater than the massive speed up you get from 512MG more disk cache?
[08:54] <Sourceror> 'Error: keyword not valid or missing' grr
[08:54] <bob2> Sourceror: if you're going to show us errors like that, you at least need to say what program produced them
[08:54] <el-stupido> hmm
[08:55] <el-stupido> anyone else wants to help me out?
[08:55] <Danny|> how can i change the permissions of a folder that root owns so i can write to it as well?
[08:55] <Amaranth> Danny|: sudo
[08:55] <bob2> Danny|: what folder?
[08:55] <Danny|> nomed, sudo wont do..
[08:55] <Sourceror> Well, it was the search thinger for the website you gave me, bob2, but I figured out that it didn't like search strings with two tokens.
[08:55] <Knorrie> Sourceror: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=Gtk.pm&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[08:55] <Madpilot> Danny|: you don't need to change permissions, just use sudo
[08:55] <Sourceror> Thank you, by the way.
[08:55] <Danny|> -.-
[08:55] <Xyc0> bob2: That is what I am trying to decide, fork up the bucks for a gig more or get a dual channel 512
[08:55] <brownie17> Xyc0, what do you mean by that? i type cd /media/cdrom0; sudo wine install.EXE
[08:55] <Danny|> i don't want to use sudo cough, it's just a general question
[08:55] <bob2> Sourceror: ?
[08:56] <brownie17> who is familiar wiht wine? i have config problems
[08:56] <bob2> Sourceror: you're searching for the filename Gtk.pm.  it has no spaces.
[08:56] <bob2> Danny|: it depends on what directory you're talking about
[08:56] <bob2> brownie17: I don't think people have magically appeared since the last time you asked
[08:56] <Danny|> well any..? say i did sudo mkdir foo.. how would i allow myself to write to it as well
[08:56] <bob2> brownie17: google really knew nothing?
[08:56] <Sourceror> I get confused easily, and terribl
[08:56] <Xyc0> brownie17: try wine /media/cdrom0/install.EXE
[08:57] <bob2> Danny|: you'd change the owner to yourself
[08:57] <Sourceror> y :/
[08:57] <Danny|> bob2, and how? =)
[08:57] <bob2> Danny|: sudo chown yourusername foo
[08:57] <Danny|> cheers
[08:57] <bob2> brownie17: the error is saying that you don't have your fake_windows setup
[08:57] <brownie17> Xyc0, i seriously doubt that is the problem, it is not a filename problem
[08:57] <brownie17> bob2, yes, how do i set it up
[08:58] <bob2> brownie17: google had no idea?
[08:58] <bob2> I find that hard to believe
[08:58] <Xyc0> brownie17: ok you are the pro, you know what you are doing
[08:58] <bob2> brownie17: also, that's a warning, not an error
[08:58] <brownie17> Xyc0, i am no pro
[08:59] <Ekushey> what's the root password???
[08:59] <Danny|> whats the command to delete a folder/file via command line?
[08:59] <dazvid> !tell Ekushey about sudo
[08:59] <Madpilot> Danny|: rm
[08:59] <majkel> hey guys, anyoneone can tell me what is the best tool to burn DVD iso from shell ?
[08:59] <Danny|> ty
[08:59] <brownie17> bob2, well it still doesn't run programs when it appears
[08:59] <bob2> Ekushey: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:59] <Ekushey> okies
[08:59] <bob2> brownie17: awesome; why do you think it is related?
[08:59] <bob2> brownie17: also, the first 3 hits on google for that error contain potential solutions
[08:59] <fdelacruz> can I install ubuntu on my SATA
[08:59] <Madpilot> Danny|: basic command line stuff here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[08:59] <bob2> majkel: growisofs, apparently
[08:59] <bob2> fdelacruz: of course
[09:00] <Amaranth> night folks
[09:00] <majkel> yeah but it gives me crap...
[09:00] <bob2> "crap" doesn't sound like a useful description of the problem
[09:00] <fdelacruz> k bob2
[09:00] <majkel> do i realluy need a scsi emulation on 2.6 kernel to make everything in burning work smoothly ?
[09:00] <fdelacruz> I will try again
[09:00] <crimsun> majkel: no
[09:01] <bob2> majkel: no
[09:01] <majkel> growisofs gives me some errors then quit
[09:01] <majkel> it starts to warm up the vd then spit it out from the drive
[09:01] <bob2> "some erros" is also not a useful description of the problem
[09:01] <majkel> sorry
[09:01] <bob2> if you want help, you need to show us the entire error
[09:01] <bob2> (not in here)
[09:02] <majkel> ok, will try that now and giv you exact output from the shell, ok? :D
[09:02] <frisbeboy> helo people, how much ram do you guys have for ubuntu? i have 256 i think and  i think its not enough
[09:03] <el-stupido> anyone plays UT on linux?
[09:03] <bob2> 256MB for gnome is not a lot of fun
[09:03] <bob2> el-stupido: it's so much less annoying if you just ask your question
[09:03] <frisbeboy> yeaa i run gnome
[09:03] <Knorrie> frisbeboy: I have 512 with lots of programs running in gnome, and it works ok
[09:03] <frisbeboy> i c thanx peoples
[09:03] <mwe> el-stupido: I used to, a year ago or so.
[09:04] <bob2> fdelacruz: perhaps try xfce4 or something
[09:04] <nnonix> UT is dead
[09:04] <frisbeboy> nnonix: in the linux env.?
[09:04] <el-stupido> mwe: could you help me a bit?
[09:04] <dazvid> el-stupido, You mean the original UT or UT2k4 ?
[09:05] <dazvid> if the latter, then yes
[09:05] <mwe> el-stupido: I doubt I'll be able to remember anything, but shoot anyway
[09:05] <el-stupido> mwe: Original UT
[09:05] <brownie17> bob2, what does the ~ mean in relation to ~/.wine/c_drive. i need to find where this directory is
[09:05] <dazvid> ~ is your home
[09:06] <e-sin> is there any real benefit to installing the final release of breezy if i have a fully updated breezy RC install?
[09:06] <bob2> brownie17: ~/ = home directory...
[09:06] <brownie17> bob2
[09:06] <Cryptid> hi i have a BIG PORBLEM from where i come there is alot of powercut and some times my UPS dosent work so my coputer restarts frequently and now i think i have bad sectors on my Hard drive so is there a program like ScanDisk which i can use and fix the Bad sectors????
[09:06] <brownie17> bob2, thankyou
[09:06] <bob2> e-sin: did yo uread the release notes?
[09:06] <bob2> Cryptid: no
[09:06] <bob2> Cryptid: fsck may be able to repeair it if it's ext3 or xfs
[09:06] <el-stupido> mwe: it giving me an error you can see what happens at  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/398425
[09:07] <Cryptid> bob2, yes it is ext3 so can i scan my disk
[09:07] <bob2> Cryptid: please read the entirity of that sentence
[09:07] <bob2> Cryptid: also, you're just going to keep losign data until your power is fixed
[09:08] <Cryptid> bob2, ya ok thanx if i have ne problem i will ask u
[09:08] <el-stupido> mwe: Any views?
[09:08] <Cryptid> bob2, loosing data that means every time my computer restarts i will loose data
[09:08] <bob2> no, you'll ask the channel
[09:08] <majkel> growisofs --use-the-force-luke=dao -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdd=/home/pitt/BitTornado-CVS/Fadev-frcy.iso
[09:08] <majkel> :-( "/dev/hdd=/home/pitt/BitTornado-CVS/Fadev-frcy.iso"
[09:08] <majkel> sorry
[09:08] <bob2> I can't imagine that syntax is correct
[09:09] <bob2> Cryptid: if you have shit power and no working UPS, yes you will lose data
[09:09] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone succeded in running azureus in breezy yet?
[09:09] <dazvid> Fanskapet, yup
[09:09] <bob2> lots of people
[09:09] <bob2> it's simple
[09:09] <bob2> install jre
[09:09] <Cryptid> bob2, i have a UPS but sometimes it malfunctions and restarts (this happens only 20% of the time i have a power cut)
[09:09] <mwe> el-stupido: hmm. I don't know, sorry
[09:09] <majkel> ok, can you check is that correct ?
[09:09] <bob2> unpack azurues
[09:09] <bob2> run
[09:09] <majkel> growisofs --use-the-force-luke=dao -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdd=/home/pitt/DVD.iso
[09:09] <Fanskapet> bob2: that won't work
[09:10] <el-stupido> mwe: ok thanx
[09:10] <Fanskapet> bob2: you're running an upgraded hoary? or a fresh new install?
[09:10] <budluva> Fanskapet install jre
[09:10] <bob2> Fanskapet: I hallucinated doing just that?
[09:10] <budluva> Fanskapet then install azurues
[09:10] <bob2> Fanskapet: upgraded
[09:10] <Fanskapet> i see
[09:10] <brownie17> bob2, for song reason i do not have a ~/.wine/config file. should it be automatically there? is the a script i can run to create one?
[09:10] <bob2> Fanskapet: are yo ureally saying that Sun's JRE does not run on breezy at all?
[09:10] <MM2> Could anyone recommend another screencapture utility than ubuntus default?
[09:10] <Fanskapet> bob2: i386 kernel or K7 ?
[09:10] <bob2> MM2: import from imagemagick
[09:10] <bob2> Fanskapet: the kernel has no bearing on this at all
[09:10] <bob2> modulo serious java bugs
[09:10] <budluva> Fanskapet http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75272&highlight=breezy+azureus
[09:10] <Fanskapet> it could.. i have spoken to one of the azureus developers.
[09:11] <mwe> el-stupido: try cd'ing into the System dir of where UT is installed
[09:11] <bob2> Fanskapet: that seems very unlikely
[09:11] <budluva> Fanskapet HOWTO installing azureus in breezy
[09:11] <bob2> Fanskapet: I'd assume user error
[09:11] <Fanskapet> i know how to install azureus :)
[09:11] <Fanskapet> that's not the problem :)
[09:11] <Peps> jre does not work in breezy????
[09:11] <bob2> Peps: it works fine
[09:11] <bob2> brownie17: you didn't read any of the hits on google?
[09:11] <Peps> sigh
[09:11] <dazvid> Fanskapet, I was using it before.
[09:11] <Fanskapet> I get Tracker Status: Connection Error (ZipException:gzip header corrupted)..
[09:11] <el-stupido> mwe: what should I do?
[09:11] <Fanskapet> when trying to download something.
[09:12] <Cryptid> bob2, i am getting this error should i continue witht he scan WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage.
[09:12] <mwe> el-stupido: where is UT installed?
[09:12] <bob2> Fanskapet: why would you think that has aything to do with the kernel?
[09:12] <bob2> Cryptid: uh, duh
[09:12] <majkel> azureus is not fun at all, try dhell client, like bittornado, works SMOOOthly
[09:12] <bob2> Cryptid: modifying the filesystem while it's mounted is obviously going to destroy it
[09:12] <bob2> Cryptid: use a live cd
[09:12] <Fanskapet> broken gzip..
[09:12] <el-stupido> ./usr/local/games
[09:12] <Fanskapet> or something.
[09:12] <Peps> if I upgrade to breezy and then decide to downgrade - how diffecult is that?
[09:12] <el-stupido> mwe: ./usr/local/games
[09:12] <bob2> Fanskapet: do you really think the kernel has anything to do with that?
[09:12] <bob2> Peps: impossible
[09:12] <brownie17> bob2, yes i did. they are very unhelpful, no-one seems to have solved the problem
[09:13] <Peps> bob2, execpt a complete re-install
[09:13] <dazvid> ^
[09:13] <mwe> el-stupido: /usr/local/games/ut ?
[09:14] <el-stupido> mwe: yeah
[09:15] <mwe> el-stupido: try cd /usr/local/games/ut; export UT_DATA_DIR=/usr/local/games/ut/System, then run the game from there
[09:15] <el-stupido> ok
[09:15] <mwe> el-stupido: what is the executeable's name?
[09:15] <Ekushey> i installed samba and shared a my home dir, but i can't view this dir nor computer from my windows machines...
[09:15] <el-stupido> ut
[09:15] <el-stupido> mwe:  ut
[09:15] <Cryptid> bob2, i have never done this before in linux so i dont know , on windows its a lot diffrent u can scandisk and mark badsectors while running windows itself ne ways i will do it now
[09:16] <el-stupido> mwe:  same error
[09:17] <brownie17> bob2, this all happened because i installed a new version of wine, should i try reinstalling or something?
[09:17] <mwe> el-stupido: see this: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfdownloads/viewcat.php?list=U
[09:17] <el-stupido> k
[09:18] <Xyc0> I usually stick with Cedega
[09:18] <bob2> brownie17: as one of those pages says, running "wine" generates ~/.wine
[09:19] <Xyc0> They may not update all the time, but it works
[09:19] <el-stupido> mwe: should I download Unreal Gold?
[09:20] <carl> what do I set the virtual host to for foo.com?
[09:20] <carl> Hola xota
[09:20] <Fanskapet> bob2: so this is not azureus problem.. maybe java but i doubt it since i've tried both java 1.5 and 1.4
[09:20] <carl> Como Estas?
[09:20] <bob2> Cryptid: what does "set the virtual host to" mean?
[09:20] <bob2> carl: what does "set the virtual host to" mean?
[09:20] <Fanskapet> but my brother has got it working.. but he made a dist upgrade from hoary aswell
[09:21] <Cryptid> bob2, if i use a live disk and scan my disk using fsck -pv will i loose ne data or will it only fix the bad sectors
[09:21] <carl> in the file foo.com
[09:21] <bob2> Fanskapet: it seems extremely unlikely it's an ubuntu problem
[09:21] <carl> there is something called NameVirtualHost *
[09:21] <xota> carl, sleepy ;)
[09:21] <bob2> carl: er, you obviously rename it to whatever the virtlahost is called
[09:21] <carl> <VirtualHost *>
[09:21] <bob2> carl: change ServerName
[09:21] <brownie17> bob2, i am stumped, it used to work fine. it's really frustrating
[09:21] <Sionide> what software does ubotu run?
[09:21] <mwe> el-stupido: I don't know. I'd google for it. maybe add export UT_DATA_PATH=/usr/local/games/ut/System at the beginning of the executeable as suggested? I'd google for it
[09:21] <bob2> Sionide: blootbot.sf.net
[09:22] <bob2> carl: this is about the time you read the virtual host documentation on http://httpd..apache.org/, too
[09:22] <Sionide> thanks
[09:22] <Sionide> and what platform is it? eggy?
[09:22] <bob2> Sionide: no
[09:22] <Fanskapet> bob2: well it worked on hoary.. with same java version and same azureus version
[09:22] <el-stupido> mwe: ok thanx
[09:24] <majkel> anyone here can tell what rules should i add to get apt-get working ?
[09:24] <majkel> it uses port 80
[09:24] <majkel> should i then set on input --sport 80 then on output --dport 80  ?
[09:24] <el-stupido> mwe: problem isnt with the installer.. the installer has finished installing the game correctly.. its just the execution bit
[09:24] <el-stupido> :/
[09:25] <bob2> majkel: why are you filtering that at all?
[09:26] <majkel> i have to modify
[09:26] <majkel> a firewall that i didn`t made
[09:26] <majkel> :(
[09:27] <el-stupido> ok... how do i extract from tar?
[09:27] <Danny|> bah, why is gnome running so... sluggish
[09:27] <Danny|> kde is running like 3 times faster than gnome on both ubuntu(kubuntu) and suse :|
[09:27] <majkel> so i have to add rules with -A to the end that unlocks apt-get
[09:27] <bob2> this is a server?
[09:27] <majkel> yeah
[09:27] <brownie17>  ever single time i try to run wine, i get the following error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3334 someone please help me
[09:27] <guruff> hey
[09:27] <dazvid> el-stupido, tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz
[09:28] <bob2> brownie17: dude
[09:28] <bob2> brownie17: be quiet
[09:28] <el-stupido> thanx
[09:28] <bob2> brownie17: mv ~/.wine ~/.wine.old ; wine
[09:29] <dazvid> el-stupido, to get the list of options on tar, use tar --help
[09:30] <guillem101> wow, be careful with gnome-themes-extra and breezy: some svg icons are missing! for instance gnome-volume-control-applet one, so it seems that it is not there!
[09:30] <brownie17> bob2, you know, i just tried that before you said it and it worked fine. sorry for repeating, i for annoyed, you are a living legend
[09:30] <guillem101> happens with nuvola icons and also with wasp ones (beos-like)
[09:31] <LootBeer> is winrar a linux aechiver?
[09:31] <dazvid> WINrar
[09:31] <dazvid> in other words.. no
[09:31] <guillem101> LootBeer, you have rar / unrar packages at multiverse
[09:32] <majkel> dudes, anybody can help me with that apt-get problem ???
[09:32] <bob2> majkel: stop it
[09:32] <majkel> ok, sorry
[09:32] <guillem101> LootBeer, if you install them, archive-manager will work with rar files.
[09:32] <bob2> majkel: if your question is "someone setup a broken firewall on this machine, and I need to allow port 80 out, how do I do that?", then say so
[09:32] <guillem101> at least it did at hoary....
[09:32] <LootBeer> guillem101> well... im not sure
[09:32] <bob2> questions with no detail and 3 question marks are just a waste of everyone's time
[09:33] <jhank> hi
[09:33] <dazvid> Hi
[09:34] <majkel> ok, i know, sorry
[09:34] <jhank> the source www1.mplayerhq.de is obviously broken... this causes an error in apt upgrade of w32 codecs.. any ideas how to fix that?
[09:34] <bob2> jhank: don't use it
[09:35] <jhank> you mean just copy the files to /usr/lib/win32
[09:35] <majkel> so this is my question: i need to create firewall ruleset to get apt-get working, it`s setup to download packages via http, can anyone do that ?
[09:35] <majkel> :D
[09:35] <bob2> no
[09:35] <bob2> majkel: was my suggestion correct or not?
[09:36] <guillem101> majkel, using firestarter is a nice way to setup firewall rules for noobs like me.
[09:36] <el-stupido> How do i find out the installation path for Konqueror?
[09:36] <bob2> if what you just asked is your question, then just disable the bloody firewall entirely
[09:36] <bob2> since it's clearly of no use
[09:36] <guillem101> el-stupido, apt-get install konqueror
[09:36] <majkel> indeed it was
[09:36] <bob2> el-stupido: and you're trying to do...?
[09:37] <el-stupido> install flash player
[09:37] <el-stupido> and its asking me for the installation path for my browser which is Konqueror
[09:37] <bob2> right, so ignore whatever documentation you're reading
[09:37] <el-stupido> oh
[09:37] <majkel> bob2> eeeeasy...
[09:38] <el-stupido> bob2: Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): <---
[09:38] <FANN> Hi... good night ! (at least here, argentine)
[09:38] <el-stupido> bob2: this is mid installation
[09:39] <bob2> el-stupido: that's fine
[09:39] <el-stupido> bob2: what do I do then?
[09:39] <bob2> say whatever
[09:39] <bob2> since it doesn't matter
[09:39] <el-stupido> bob2: ??
[09:40] <bob2> dude
[09:40] <bob2> 17:39:45           bob2 | since it doesn't matter
[09:40] <bob2> just install it
[09:40] <bob2> it doesn't matter where the binary crap goes
[09:40] <el-stupido> aaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[09:40] <e-sin> can i back up my gnome panel layout?
[09:41] <bob2> el-stupido: once it's installed, symlink it into /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/ orwherever konquerror wants it these days
[09:41] <el-stupido> bob2: WARNING: /home/shantanu/install_flash_player_7_linux/whatever is not a directory <--- lol
[09:41] <bob2> yay proprietary junk
[09:41] <spockboy> hi there. i've put a second NIC into my machine running ubuntu, without any gui. how can i get ubuntu to recognise the new interface, from the console?
[09:42] <sonoud> Peps, hi, are you still there?
[09:42] <el-stupido> bob2: so now what?
[09:42] <Peps> sonoud: sort of
[09:42] <sonoud> Peps, do you still remember me? about DVD burner problem.
[09:42] <guillem101> spockboy, can you see the NIC at "ifconfig -a" ?
[09:42] <Peps> sonoud: yes
[09:43] <bob2> el-stupido: now you use that magically "google" thing I've heard so much about to find where konqeuror expects the plugin to be
[09:43] <bob2> spockboy: reboot with it plugged in
[09:43] <bob2> spockboy: then it's recognised
[09:43] <el-stupido> rofl
[09:43] <el-stupido> ok
[09:43] <Danny|> anyone has any tips for making gnome faster? it's running so slow here :(
[09:43] <bob2> spockboy: if you want to configure it, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:43] <bob2> Danny|: more ram, or failing that, not using it
[09:43] <Danny|> I've got 1gb..
[09:43] <sonoud> Peps, you asked me to update my firmware? will that help? I search on goolge. I found out the new version of firmware in official website. that is .exe program. Can I run it in windows? then update firmware in windows.
[09:43] <jhank> has anyone use lufs before?
[09:43] <guillem101> Danny|, which CPU?
[09:44] <spockboy> bob2: ahh thanks. turns out it has come up as "eth2" instead of "eth1". cheers
[09:44] <Danny|> AMD Barton Mobile 2500+ @ 2.2ghz, 1gb of RAM, nVidia 6800, Audigy 2 ZS...
[09:44] <jhank> or does anyone know another way to mount FTP server
[09:44] <Peps> sonoud: if you google 'pioneer 110d linux' the first entry is  'DVR-110D slow in linux :-('
[09:44] <brownie17> bob2, can you quickly tell me what the command is to change a directory and all its sub-directory and folders to writable in my account?
[09:44] <guillem101> spockboy, well, "ifconfig -a" says that kind of things...
[09:44] <brownie17> what is the command to change write permissions for a directory?
[09:44] <FANN> have a silly question... i've installed ubuntu Hoary Hedgehog few days weeks ago.. have almost everything working but i would love to have nvu.. i heard that the new release have nvu in the packages... is that's reason enought to reinstall ? :S
[09:44] <sonoud> Peps, yeah, that is what i saw. slow is ok. but it dosn't work.
[09:45] <Danny|> brownie17, chmod -R +rw foo
[09:45] <Peps> sonoud: I always google hardware before I buy for linux compatibility
[09:45] <bob2> jhank: why do you want to mount it?
[09:45] <bob2> brownie17: what directory?
[09:45] <jhank> just because i access it very often and that would be very comfortable
[09:45] <bob2> FANN: nvu is in breezy...
[09:45] <bob2> jhank: ...
[09:45] <Peps> sonoud: check if you have the latest firmware. if not, yes, update in windows only
[09:45] <jhank> bob2 ?
[09:45] <bob2> jhank: nautilus will pretend to mount them, and make them visible to gnome applications
[09:46] <sonoud> Peps, I am really bad in hardware. I just went lots of shops and ask what the best brand is.
[09:46] <guillem101> Peps, ... someone has to be the one to write down her experience with the hardware ... :-P
[09:46] <delmonico> hi
[09:46] <FANN> yes.. well i means.. download breezy and reinstall all my system (i don't think an upgrade is a good thing...)
[09:46] <Peps> sonoud: can you return it?
[09:46] <sonoud> Peps, how to check which version of firmware for DVD burner I have?
[09:46] <delmonico> how can I use apt to query like "show me alle installed packages from repository 'foo'"?
[09:46] <jhank> bob2 that's right, i try it, thanks
[09:46] <bigfoot1> guys, I'm a forgetful newbie. how can i find out what number my pentium is (pentium, pentium2, pentium3, etc)? I need this for configuring apt-build. Thanks
[09:46] <sonoud> Peps, I don't know. I think i can't. but not sure. which brand is the best one for linux?
[09:47] <Peps> sonoud: don't know. I use LG
[09:47] <FANN> bigfoot.. i am not from unix world.. but if you still have windows can google for a great program called cpu-z
[09:47] <bob2> FANN: there's no need at all to reinstall
[09:47] <LootBeer> can one use winrar or winzip to archive a .avi file or use a linux archiver to do that, i need to shrink my vidoe files to smaller size
[09:47] <brownie17> bob2, i typed  sudo chmod -R +rw warcraft, warcraft being a folder, and and it didn't give me write permission
[09:47] <bob2> delmonico: apt-show-versions
[09:47] <bob2> bigfoot1: apt-build is broken and almost certainly useless
[09:47] <Peps> sonoud: as to firmware, it is somewhere in /proc, but don't remeber offhand
[09:47] <bob2> bigfoot1: also, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:48] <topyli> bigfoot1: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:48] <topyli> heh
[09:48] <delmonico> bob2: thanks will try
[09:48] <bob2> LootBeer: please don't be a .avi-zipping weenie
[09:48] <bob2> LootBeer: unless you actually know it will save a useful amount of space
[09:48] <bob2> LootBeer: also, apt-cache show rar
[09:48] <sonoud> Peps, I read the changelog of firmware. i can't see anything so important to update. http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/popups/dl_DVR-110D616.html
[09:48] <bigfoot1> bob2, it is? Please refer to a howto I'm following, specifically post number 6 at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=425530#top
[09:49] <brownie17> can someone tell me what the command is to change DIRECTORY permissions?
[09:49] <bigfoot1> bob2:  what's wrong with zipping avi?
[09:49] <bigfoot1> topyli: thank you
[09:50] <topyli> brownie17: the same way you change any permissions. if you want all the files inside the dir changed recursively as well, use -R
[09:50] <sonoud> Peps, As what I said, it works perfectly fine with nero in windows. So do you think it should be ok for neroLinux?
[09:50] <brownie17> topyli, well i tried sudo chmod -R +rw warcraft and it just didn't do anything
[09:50] <bob2> bigfoot1: I'd ignore any guide on the forums on prinicple
[09:50] <bob2> bigfoot1: chmod...
[09:50] <majkel> goood, i love irc:D:D
[09:50] <bob2> brownie17: chmod, also your command line is wrong
[09:50] <ajmitch_> evening bob2 :)
[09:50] <brownie17> bob2, ok, what's wrong with it?
[09:50] <bob2> brownie17: presumably you mean sudo chmod -R a+rwx warcrafft
[09:50] <jhank> bob2 that works fine with nautilus, thanks!
[09:51] <Peps> sonoud: worth a try, but if it does not work with k3b expect trouble anyway.
[09:51] <sonoud> Peps, one more thing. is that dangerous to update firmware? will that destroy my burner if I did something incorrectly?
[09:51] <bob2> bigfoot1: they're already compressed.  if you get much more by using zip, your codec is shit.
[09:51] <brownie17> bob2 it owrked thankyopu
[09:51] <bob2> ajmitch_: ciao
[09:51] <pepsi> updating firmware is always dangerous :)
[09:51] <bob2> bigfoot1: that thread appears to have nothing to do with apt-build
[09:52] <pepsi> just tell the power company to not have any issues while you update :)
[09:52] <Peps> sonoud: maybe if you have a power-cut during the update, otherwise not likely
[09:52] <bob2> I tried to fix the RC bug on apt-build in sid the other day, but apt-build appears to not actually work at all
[09:53] <michas> hello, does someone use hisax and udev? How can I tell udev to make the devices for hisax?
[09:53] <bigfoot1> bob2: please look at post number 6. The second step in post number 6 says "sudo apt-get apt-build"
[09:53] <sonoud> Peps, what happened if i chose a wrong version of firmware? I am just stupid in hardware. I am sure that 110D. but not sure the weird symbols following that.
[09:53] <bob2> bigfoot1: why don't you give me the correct url?
[09:53] <el-stupido> anyone plays UT on linux?
[09:53] <bob2> holy bajoly
[09:54] <bigfoot1> bob2:  that explains why the zipped spanned file i made of a .avi couldn't work
[09:54] <Peps> sonoud: look in the manual and make sure the version number matches what you download
[09:54] <bigfoot1> bob2, why would you ignore guides from the forums? I thought they are of good quality. If someone tried to write a howto/guide and a moderator saw that it was of bad quality, he'd remove that post, won't he?
[09:55] <bob2> hahaha
[09:55] <ajmitch_> heh
[09:55] <bigfoot1> bob2, what provoked you to say bajoly?
[09:55] <bigfoot1> bob2: whatcha laughing at?
[09:55] <bob2> bigfoot1: I have no idea what you're trying to do, but if it's something like "compile a source package", you don't want or need apt-build
[09:55] <ajmitch_> apt-build is not a tool commonly used to rebuild a source package
[09:55] <sonoud> Peps, I think i just try neroLinux tonight. then tried to update firmware. that gave me headache. nightmare.... anyway, thank you very much for helping.
[09:55] <FANN> thanks everybody... good night and sweet dreams..
[09:56] <bigfoot1> ajmitch, then why is http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=416573&postcount=6 saying that I need to "sudo apt-get apt-build"??
[09:56] <rob^lt> hey are there any ops around?
[09:56] <ajmitch_> bigfoot1: because that's what whoever wrote that post decided to use
[09:57] <bigfoot1> ajmitch_: so after reading that post, what do you think needs to be changed? (I'm can't think very clearly in linux (yet))
[09:57] <RezDawg> clear
[09:57] <sonoud> Peps, thank you very much. I gotta go now. bye.
[09:57] <bob2> bigfoot1: '-Add 'deb-src ftp://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib' to your apt sources list.', then 'sudo apt-get update', then 'sudo apt-get build-dep scim ; sudo apt-get build-dep scim-anthy ; apt-get source -b scim ; apt-get source -b scim-anthy', then in stall the resulting .debs with dpkg.
[09:58] <ajmitch_> as bob2 says :)
[09:58] <glick> hi
[09:58] <glick> excuse my are there any python gurus here?
[09:58] <glick> synaptic says the python-id3lib is installed
[09:58] <RezDawg> Can someone please tell me what ubuntu solution for dvd burning is thank you.
[09:58] <bigfoot1> bob2, wow i guess you understood what that poster really wanted to say.
[09:59] <GNULinuxer> bob2: that scim doesn't segfault?
[09:59] <glick> but i cant import the python id3 module
[09:59] <bob2> GNULinuxer: don't know or care, don't use scim
[09:59] <bob2> glick: dpkg -L python-id3lib
[09:59] <bigfoot1> GNULinuxer: according to that post, if you follow that post's instructions it will not segfault.
[09:59] <ajmitch_> glick: import pyid3lib
[09:59] <electron> hi
[09:59] <electron> I am trying to share my internet connection
[10:00] <electron> someone said guardog, but when I do 'apt-get install guarddog' it can't find it.
[10:00] <dazvid> electron, an easier program is firestarter
[10:00] <electron> but don't I have to do other shit like setup iptables?
[10:01] <dazvid> You may need ipmasq aswell
[10:01] <dazvid> but basically firestarter will do most of the work for you
[10:01] <rob^lt> grr
[10:01] <bob2> windows people don't understand layered systems, afaict
[10:01] <bob2> iptables is the kernel ip mangling layer
[10:02] <electron> There is something wrong with my apt
[10:02] <bob2> iptables is also a command-line program that pokes at ithe kernel stuff
[10:02] <electron> It wont find anything, I don't apt-setup and chose http, australia
[10:02] <bob2> firestarter is a GUI program thatdoes the same ting
[10:02] <electron> but it can't find firestarter or ipmasqurade
[10:02] <dazvid> bob2, yeh its good for noobs like myself. heh
[10:03] <bob2> electron: dude
[10:03] <bob2> again, layer
[10:03] <bob2> that's not "wrong"
[10:03] <bob2> that's "you didn't confiugure apt to look at the ubuntu repositories on the internet"
[10:03] <bob2> now edit /etc/apt/sources.list and enable networks and universe
[10:03] <electron> how do I do that?
[10:03] <jhank> does anyone know when there is a new version of SKYPE to be expected?
[10:04] <wezzer> is ubuntuguide going to be updated to breezy?
[10:04] <jhank> btw my usplash suddenly started to work... strange
[10:04] <Bateau_> is there a 64bit version of ubuntu to Intell 64 CPUs?
[10:04] <electron> bob2, how do I make it do that? I have the file open now
[10:05] <dazvid> Bateau_, yup
[10:05] <electron> sorry I am a n00b
[10:05] <bob2> Bateau_: too vague
[10:05] <dazvid> oh wait
[10:05] <dazvid> intel
[10:05] <Peps> sonoud: still there?
[10:05] <bob2> Bateau_: do you mean "amd64-compatible intel cpus" or "itanium"?
[10:05] <bob2> electron: have you read it?
[10:05] <electron> yes
[10:05] <Bateau_> i mean a 64bit Intel CPU
[10:05] <bob2> Bateau_: no, you're not describing a real CPU
[10:05] <cafuego_> Bateau_: E64T or ia64?
[10:06] <cafuego_> Bateau_: For e64t yes, run amd64. otherwise, no.
[10:06] <Bateau_> e64t yes
[10:06] <cafuego_> Bateau_: e64t = amd64
[10:07] <cafuego_> linux-image-2.6.12-9-amd64-xeon - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on Intel x86_64.
[10:07] <Nobodyreal> Is there any way to change the system-level timezone on Breezy?  I chose the wrong one during the install.
[10:07] <cafuego_> Although why you'd buy intel if you were after x86_64 will probably always be a mystery to me.
[10:07] <bob2> Nobodyreal: sudo tzconfig
[10:07] <cafuego_> Nobodyreal: sudo 'sudo tzconfig'.
[10:07] <bigfoot1> guys i don't understand how apt-get works. I did sudo apt-get install apt-build, and it installed extra packages (devscripts libappconfig-perl libapt-pkg-perl). But when I did "sudo apt-get remove apt-build", it only removes apt-build. How can I remove all the stuff that came along with  a certain package?
[10:08] <bob2> cafuego_: is that a sudo echo I hear?
[10:08] <bob2> bigfoot1: reason #342342 not to use apt-get for that
[10:08] <cafuego_> boom tish!
[10:08] <bob2> bigfoot1: apt doesn't know or care, and didn't record that fact.  if you use aptitude in futurue, it will
[10:09] <Nobodyreal> bob2, cafuego, thanks.
[10:09] <bigfoot1> bob2, so why do people hear always talk about apt-get this, apt-get that, apt-get blahblah, when aptitude is superior?
[10:09] <bigfoot1> why do people *here*
[10:09] <bob2> why not?
[10:09] <bob2> sometimes you use apt-get, sometimes you use aptitude
[10:09] <cafuego_> bigfoot1: Honestly, use 'synaptic' :-)
[10:09] <bob2> depends what you're doing
[10:09] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: they have different advantages
[10:10] <bigfoot1> cafuego: are you making a joke, or is synaptic better?
[10:10] <cafuego_> bigfoot1: Probably most people don't care that there is no log (I don't).
[10:10] <bigfoot1> apokryphos: how's apt-get better.
[10:10] <bigfoot1> ?
[10:10] <AnArKY87> hi
[10:10] <bob2> apt-get has the build-dep subcommand, for one
[10:11] <bigfoot1> cafuego: don't you care though that the depencies that came with "package A" are no longer used by any other program after you removed "package A"?
[10:11] <cafuego_> bbo2: *!vedgleoi@85.97.24.158 is a spambot
[10:11] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: aptitude for example automatically installs recommended packages, and it's quicker, slightly ;-)
[10:11] <dazvid> cafuego, how can you tell?
[10:11] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: apt-get is quicker, I mean.
[10:11] <cafuego_> dazvid: experience
[10:11] <dazvid> fair enough :)
[10:11] <cafuego_> and the random 8-char nicks are a fairly dead giveaway
[10:11] <dazvid> such as that
[10:11] <dazvid> lol
[10:11] <cafuego_> See?
[10:12] <AnArKY87> any user use bootsplash on kubuntu??
[10:12] <dazvid> right on cue!
[10:12] <apokryphos> AnArKY87: yup
[10:12] <cafuego_> join -> nickchange -> quit
[10:12] <AnArKY87> apokryphos, how to use?
[10:12] <cafuego_> And most of them have been 85.0.0.0/8 as of late
[10:12] <ubuntu> labas
[10:13] <apokryphos> AnArKY87: install kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[10:13] <AnArKY87> you use usplash?
[10:13] <apokryphos> yes, though I hardly care much for it
[10:14] <cafuego_> AnArKY87: Install it, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)", reboot.
[10:14] <jhank> is it possible to hide mounts on the desktop but still have it in Locations Menu?
[10:14] <bigfoot1> doesn't anybody here care that the depencies that after you "sudo apt-get remove packageXYZ, the packages (dependencies) that came with packageXYZ are no longer used by any other program ?why would anyone want to use apt-get if this happens?
[10:14] <AnArKY87> apokryphos, I want use bootsplash
[10:14] <cafuego_> Tadah, pretty bootdplash both times a year you boot up
[10:14] <bob2> bigfoot1: apt-get isn't meant for end-users
[10:14] <bob2> bigfoot1: people who don't know how to clean that up shouldn't be using apt-get to install things
[10:14] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: because many people don't care about having them
[10:15] <apokryphos> AnArKY87: a fixed up GRUB, you mean?
[10:15] <apokryphos> AnArKY87: it is possible, and not too hard; try Googling
[10:15] <AnArKY87> ok apokryphos
[10:16] <bigfoot1> apokryphos: people don't care about having the unused packages? You mean that some people don't mind having wasted space???
[10:17] <teroedni> is xorg 6.8.99.16 the newest release from xorg
[10:17] <bob2> bigfoot1: if you catre, use aptitde, synaptic or debfoster
[10:17] <bob2> teroedni: www.x.org, go check
[10:17] <bigfoot1> bob2: so since I'm a newbie, would you suggest I stick with aptitude?
[10:17] <cafuego_> bigfoot1: Some people know about 'deborphan' and 'debfoster'.
[10:17] <bob2> bigfoot1: or synaptic
[10:17] <teroedni> i am there but i am still unsure;)
[10:18] <bigfoot1> bob2: but will synaptic remove the depencies if I select PackageXYZ?
[10:18] <propagandhi> how do you set log rotation under gnome
[10:18] <bigfoot1> ...if I select PackageXYZ to remove?
[10:18] <bob2> teroedni: http://ftp.x.org/, "download latest release"
[10:18] <bob2> bigfoot1: no idea, I don't use it
[10:18] <bob2> propagandhi: you don't, you'd edit /etc/logrotate.conf
[10:18] <propagandhi> bob2: cheers, thats what i neede
[10:18] <propagandhi> needed
[10:19] <teroedni> this is the newest right? http://xorg.freedesktop.org/snapshots/
[10:19] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: I sure don't a lot of the time
[10:19] <bob2> teroedni: no
[10:20] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: if I did, I wouldn't have a lot of random programs on my comp that I'd probably not use for a very long time
[10:20] <bigfoot1> bob2 i ran sudo debfoster and i got: "gnome-terminal is keeping the following 1 packages installed:   gnome-terminal-data" Keep gnome-terminal? [Ynpsiuqx?] , " What's this about?
[10:20] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: debfoster --help
[10:20] <jhank> gibfoot1 try using deborphan
[10:20] <teroedni> isent snapshot newest??
[10:20] <bob2> teroedni: you didn't define what you want
[10:20] <bob2> teroedni: the linke I pointed you at is that latest release
[10:21] <bob2> teroedni: snapshots are random development versions
[10:21] <bigfoot1> jhank: what's the diff b/w debfoster and deborphan? they both seem like unloved children.
[10:21] <bob2> teroedni: upgrading X from source is not a good idea, either
[10:21] <bob2> bigfoot1: that's what debfoster does...the manual doesn't have any details of how to use it?
[10:21] <bigfoot1> teroedni: what's snapshot
[10:21] <darrenrxm> can you have other programs running when you install something? Will it wreak the install of the software?
[10:21] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: read the man pages
[10:21] <bob2> darrenrxm: yes, no
[10:21] <bigfoot1> darrenrxm: to summarize bob2: yo!!!
[10:22] <bob2> no.
[10:22] <darrenrxm> excellent! thankyou for the response
[10:22] <jhank> bigfoot1 i don't know the exact difference, sorry -->http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=134
[10:22] <bigfoot1> darrenrxm: yo' welcome, bro.
[10:22] <flozilum> anyone who uses grip ?
[10:23] <rob^> yep
[10:23] <flozilum> i'm having an issue
[10:23] <rob^> ask away
[10:23] <teroedni> why not
[10:23] <flozilum> heh
[10:23] <flozilum> well
[10:23] <flozilum> my cds are ripping painfully slow
[10:23] <why-oh-why> i crap 2 times per morning for some reason
[10:23] <rob^> enable dma
[10:24] <flozilum> can you help me with that?
[10:24] <teroedni> bob":i figured i would lear something new . Therefore i could install latest xorg after 6.8.2 (have that now)
[10:24] <bob2> teroedni: that's a bad idea
[10:24] <teroedni> i want the next 6.9.2 but isent the snapshot the nearest them??
[10:25] <strannik> hello guys..
[10:25] <bob2> just don't do it
[10:25] <rob^> !dma
[10:25] <bob2> if you don't know enough to find a new version, you're only going to break your system
[10:25] <bob2> to be quite blunt
[10:25] <teroedni> why is it so dangerous to build from source then??
[10:25] <strannik> trying to mount windows partition
[10:25] <bob2> strannik: /msg ubotu ntfs
[10:25] <bob2> teroedni: because you don't know what you're doing
[10:25] <ajmitch_> teroedni: because a lot of work has gone into making X.org on ubuntu
[10:25] <flozilum> rob^: where do i need to be for that
[10:26] <bob2> and you'll break your existing X setup
[10:26] <why-oh-why> i crap 2 times per morning for some reason
[10:26] <strannik> thanks
[10:26] <rick_> could anyone help me, I just installed Ubuntu and trying to install Nvidia Drivers, I am a newbie striving to learn
[10:26] <rob^> what is ubotu smoking today?
[10:26] <nightswim> !nvidia
[10:26] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:26] <bob2> rick_: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:26] <cafuego_> teroedni: Remember rule 1.
[10:26] <nightswim> rick_: try that
[10:26] <rob^> !dma
[10:26] <rick_> thank you
[10:26] <rob^> rumour has it, dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[10:26] <rick_> i made it kinda far but it said i needed binutils
[10:27] <strannik> bob2: actually its fat32 for me...don't like ntfs
[10:27] <teleyinex> hi
[10:27] <why-oh-why> i crap 2 times per morning for some reason - WHAT CAUSES THIS?
[10:27] <cafuego_> strannik: bob2 has left the building
[10:27] <propagandhi> !mark
[10:27] <ubotu> A -- MARK -- message is printed in the log every 15 minutes, so you know the logger is running. This is perfectly normal. Your kernel has not been hacked by a danish guy called 'Mark'.
[10:27] <da_bon_bon> whoa ? who is rob^ ?
[10:27] <teroedni> hmm
[10:27] <teleyinex> someone has updated today breezy?
[10:27] <rob^> da_bon_bon, why do you ask?
[10:27] <teleyinex> because breezy-updates has problems with gpg
[10:28] <cafuego_> !gpgerr
[10:28] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[10:28] <strannik> cafuego_: thanks
[10:28] <teroedni> but will i only break my xorg or would it break the whole kernel?? scock:=o
[10:28] <flozilum> rob^: advisable to stop the rip before i enable dma?
[10:28] <cafuego_> strannik: Mind you, the 'ntfs' factoid also goes for fat32.
[10:28] <olicat> whats the best way of clearing swap space if it's run out? do i have to reboot?
[10:28] <maxou> i
[10:28] <cafuego_> teroedni: if you don't know what you're doing, you'll break your entire system.
[10:28] <maxou> olicat, yes
[10:29] <cafuego_> !rule 1
[10:29] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[10:29] <olicat> maxou, damn. thanks
[10:29] <rob^> flozilum, you will need to restart the rip most likely
[10:29] <why-oh-why> i crap 2 times per morning for some reason - WHAT CAUSES THIS?
[10:29] <teleyinex> I get that the packages arent signed
[10:29] <mojo> yo yo PPL
[10:29] <mojo> is Dapper respo opened yet?
[10:29] <cafuego_> why-oh-why: oil
[10:29] <strannik> ok, thanks just got the information. have a good one, bye
[10:29] <teleyinex> and then untrusted
[10:29] <why-oh-why> oil???
[10:29] <rick_> How do you open a terminal in Ubuntu?
[10:29] <cafuego_> Mojo: Check the archives.
[10:29] <rick_> can you open one in a window?
[10:29] <teroedni> uboto: How do i learn if i cant get into trouble
[10:29] <cafuego_> rick_: Appls -> Accessories -> Terminal
[10:30] <rick_> Thanks
[10:30] <teroedni> but anyway if i can break my kernel on this i dont do it
[10:30] <cafuego_> teroedni: Just don't expect help if you wilfully break your system against better judgement.
[10:30] <teroedni> Thanks:)
[10:30] <da_bon_bon> how do i edit my mkinitrd.conf to support suspend2 ?
[10:30] <onkarshinde> rick_: There is nautilus-terminal package you need to install.
[10:30] <da_bon_bon> i just need to gte one line added to linuxrc
[10:30] <da_bon_bon> is it possible ?
[10:31] <flozilum> dma is on - ripping still crawling...
[10:31] <manuvcube> has onyone this "sound is much too low on mp3" problem, too? (ibookg4 with breezy)
[10:31] <ajmitch_> da_bon_bon: we don't use initrd in breezy, but initramfs
[10:31] <cafuego_> onkarshinde: Only for the right-click option.
[10:31] <da_bon_bon> ohok, ajmitch_
[10:31] <onkarshinde> cafuegoYes. He asks whether he can open terminal from a window.
[10:31] <mojo> cafuego: what u mean checking archive?
[10:32] <da_bon_bon> ajmitch_: i made my own kernel use make kpkg .. i had used " --initrd " option while buidling --  will it still use initramfs ?
[10:32] <ajmitch_> da_bon_bon: probably not then
[10:32] <da_bon_bon> ok, ajmitch_
[10:32] <da_bon_bon> :)
[10:32] <da_bon_bon> how do i check what it is using ?
[10:33] <teleyinex> how can i update my gpg of the repositories?
[10:33] <cafuego_> teleyinex: Your GPG is fine, the repositry is broken, use a different repository until the current one is fixed.
[10:33] <rick_> ok, i have installed the nivida driver package per the directions you linked me to, I am wondering, are these the latest drivers from nvidia or just get the job done drivers
[10:34] <cafuego_> rick_: They're the latest prebuilt drivers which perform no different from the nvidia ones.
[10:34] <rick_> Ok, Thank you :)
[10:34] <rick_> You have been a big help
[10:34] <rick_> Quite a challenge learning this linux but I am fed up with windows
[10:34] <teleyinex> cafuego, the problem is that I have updated from that repositorie
[10:34] <cafuego_> teleyinex: so?
[10:34] <teleyinex> and only I get that are untrusted
[10:35] <spiral> hi
[10:35] <cafuego_> They all carry the same files.
[10:35] <all4n> hey, I have a problem..  I'm running out of diskspace on / and was thinking of mounting /home on a new partition I just created.  What I was thinking was just to copy everythin over on that partition by using 'cp -a /home/* /home2/' and then remove /home, and remount /home2 as /home.. now, the problem is that when I try to copy everything over.. I get the problem that it won't copy symbolic links and things.. why is that?
[10:36] <teleyinex> ok
[10:36] <teleyinex> well, but i dont understand then why i get the files untrusted
[10:36] <teleyinex> it has passed me in two machines with breezy
[10:36] <Peps> all4n, use tar untar
[10:37] <cafuego_> all4n: 'cp -a /home/* /home2'
[10:37] <all4n> Peps, is there a reason tar can copy and pack something that cp can not?
[10:38] <da_bon_bon> ok, ajmitch_ , its initramfs
[10:38] <Peps> all4n, tar worked for me in the past. just try it out on a small subdir with links
[10:38] <all4n> cafuego, it claims it cannot preserve ownership
[10:38] <cafuego_> all4n: Copy as root, via sudo.
[10:38] <cafuego_> all4n: (and not to fat32)
[10:39] <all4n> cafuego, ah.. thats the reason then.. I tried to copy to fat32 disk
[10:39] <all4n> cafuego, I was thinking of sharing my home folder with windows
[10:41] <cafuego_> all4n: fat32 doesn't support permissions and ownership; that won't work.
[10:42] <all4n> cafuego, hmm.. is it a problem that the files have no ownership (not security related, that is)?
[10:42] <onkarshinde> Has anyone successfully shared swap partition between windows and linux?
[10:42] <cafuego_> all4n: Not for simple data storage, no.
[10:42] <mahangu> onfire_nux, i dont think so - windows would need a formatted vat or ntfs
[10:42] <wijnand> does Breezy support WPA out of the box or would Istill  need to use the WPA Howto to set it up?
[10:42] <signius> why the hell would you want to share them ?
[10:42] <all4n> cafuego, so ubuntu won't have any problems with the files being stored on fat32, right?
[10:43] <cafuego_> all4n: So you could say use ~/Documents as a link to a directory on fat32.
[10:43] <signius> and you wouldnt be able to share them anyways as far as i am aware as windows doesnt under *nix file formats
[10:43] <all4n> signius, because I dont want to have double dose of documents lying around on the computer
[10:43] <onkarshinde> all4n: You are setting up /home. All users will be able to access each others files if there are no owenerships.
[10:43] <signius> then you need to create a fat32 partition to share data storage on
[10:43] <cafuego_> all4n: it shouldn't, but if 'chmod' or 'chown' calls fail, some apps might bork. Best to leave /home on ext3 and just offload data files.
[10:44] <all4n> onkarshinde, this is no server. I only have one user
[10:44] <cafuego_> signius: Windows has no problems mounting ext2/ext3 and using most files.
[10:44] <all4n> cafuego, all righty then  :)
[10:44] <signius> what when shared with samba ?
[10:44] <onkarshinde> signius: ext2ifs is the answer
[10:44] <mahangu> cafuego, wierd, i had problems with ext2/3 - windows wont even find them
[10:44] <cafuego_> signius: No, when mounted using the tools from ext2fsd.sourceforge.net
[10:44] <onkarshinde> !ext2ifs
[10:44] <ubotu> onkarshinde: Are you smoking crack?
[10:45] <Hobbsee> !ext2fs
[10:45] <ubotu> Hobbsee: I haven't a clue
[10:45] <signius> i am not familar with that project or how reliable it is
[10:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> did anyone else here have keymap problems when you moved to breezy?
[10:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> i get xorg errors and i can't use my accented characters anymore.
[10:45] <signius> the standard solutions is to share data on a dual boot system on a shared fat32
[10:46] <leagris> same problems with keymap as with Hoary BROKEN_LADDER. Worked ok with mandriva
[10:46] <all4n> signius, that was my plan.. I can still do it, just make a link as you said
[10:46] <mwe> BROKEN_LADDER: the keyboard driver changed name to kbd
[10:46] <leagris> not very important thouch, one or to key not mapped correctly
[10:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> leagris hoary gave me no problems.
[10:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> mwe i've been using kbd
[10:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> in hoary too.
[10:47] <leagris> Wat is the keymap you use BROKEN_LADDER ?
[10:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> my kbd keymap specifies lots of accented third-level characters.  if i try to set alt to be third-level chooser in keymap settings, i get an error.
[10:47] <onkarshinde> signius: I would suggest not using Windows at all ;-)
[10:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> dvorak with esperanto modifications.
[10:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> onkarshinde absolutely.
[10:48] <signius> its a shame microsoft are being such tossers abotu releasing any specs on NTFS
[10:48] <all4n> hear hear
[10:48] <Ng> signius: it's their product, you don't have to use it, if you don't like it, don't use it
[10:48] <signius> though i personally havnt had any problems withread/writes to ntfs partitions but other claim its very flakey
[10:48] <signius> i can only comment on my own experiences
[10:48] <da_bon_bon> YAY! finally got suspend2 to work on ubuntu
[10:49] <cafuego_> signius: it makes NTFS break whenever I even write a file without changing it.
[10:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know what "direct" means next to "loudness" on my receiver?
[10:49] <signius> I appreciate its there product but i am talking about for the good of interoperablity
[10:49] <electron> why does Ubuntu come without sshd?
[10:49] <onkarshinde> If I have data on some fat32 partition and I want it to convert to ext3 will I loose data?
[10:49] <cafuego_> signius: That's not what the business plan specifies Microsoft to be all about.
[10:49] <cafuego_> onkarshinde: Yes.
[10:49] <Ng> electron: security. it's in the archives though, install openssh-server
[10:49] <signius> wil be interesting to see how the rulings of the EU pan out with regard to releasing specs
[10:50] <cafuego_> electron: Because most home users don't need an ssh server.
[10:50] <slept> BROKEN_LADDER, that loudness or bass  treble settings wont have any effect, have a try :)
[10:50] <signius> i am not sure about coverting fat32 to exts on the fly
[10:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> slept i have them set to zero anyway.  :)
[10:50] <signius> not sure if partition magic can do it on the fly and keep the data
[10:50] <cafuego_> signius: It's not worth the risk.
[10:51] <all4n> cafuego, would it be a good solution just to mount the fat32 partition inside ~/shared   ?
[10:51] <onkarshinde> signius: I don't like partition magic.
[10:51] <signius> onkarshinde on what basis ?
[10:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> my cowon iaudio u2 is so weird with it's "eq" settings.  it has this thing called "BBE" that is supposed to "enhance" the sound.  if you turn it up to 10, sounds great.  it just sounds like it would ogg123 or xmms with no eq.  but if you turn bbe all the way off, it sounds terrible and tinny.
[10:51] <cafuego_> all4n: Yep.
[10:51] <siniste1> Hello there. I ve downloaded ubuntu 5.10 and it  cant recognize the partition table..
[10:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> i don't want to alter my sound, but if i turn it up it sounds normal, and if i turn it off it sounds terrible.
[10:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> but the cowon iaudio u2 is amazing.
[10:52] <all4n> cafuego, thanks, then that is what I will do
[10:52] <onkarshinde> signius: It corrupted my partition table on my old systems when I tried to make room for linux installation.
[10:52] <signius> i have used it hundreds if not thouasands of times and never had a problem
[10:52] <cafuego_> KyiELi: Hi, spammer.
[10:52] <signius> what fiel system was on the HDD when you made the changes ?
[10:53] <onkarshinde> signius: fat32
[10:53] <signius> did you scandisk and defrag first ?
[10:53] <all4n> onkarshinde, partition magic messed up my system here as well last night..  I ended up reinstalling windows
[10:53] <onkarshinde> signius: I don't remember exactly. It was about 2 years back. I haven't tried it after that.
[10:54] <el-stupido> anyone here plays UT?
[10:54] <electron> why can't I ssh to this Ubuntu box?
[10:55] <electron> no route to host
[10:55] <signius> although i dont know what you guys did in what order and cant point any fingers whenever anyone i know has screwed a system with pm its becuase they did something in the wrong order or something dumb
[10:55] <all4n> signius, NTFS
[10:55] <slept> electron, do you have an sshserver, is port 22 open ?
[10:55] <signius> but everyone is entitled to use whatever they choose
[10:56] <onkarshinde> Who needs partition magic days these days. I don't use Windows anymore (at home at least).
[10:56] <mahangu> haha
[10:56] <mahangu> onkarshinde, i needed PM to install ubuntu
[10:56] <signius> i use FOSS & Proprietry i dont subscribe to the one OS is the best for every single job no matter what it is
[10:56] <mahangu> i think linux needs a good GUI partion tool
[10:56] <electron> how do I check?
[10:56] <mahangu> parted is cool
[10:56] <mahangu> but we need a GUI
[10:56] <electron> where is the firewall?
[10:56] <C-Keen> mahangu: like qtparted?
[10:56] <onkarshinde> mahangu: Then perhaps you didn't know that Hoary installer can resize partition for you.
[10:57] <mahangu> onkarshinde, im aware of that
[10:57] <mahangu> but it's not the friendliest thing in the world
[10:57] <mahangu> is all im saying
[10:57] <mahangu> :)
[10:57] <mahangu> dude don't get me wrong
[10:57] <mahangu> i abhor prop software
[10:57] <slept> electron, you can check with nmap , just install it or install sshd
[10:57] <onkarshinde> mahangu: May be it is not friendliest, but it just works.
[10:57] <indypende> hi to all!
[10:57] <Siropel> can someone help me in private regarding vnc on ubuntu ?
[10:57] <manuvcube> electron: firewall is iptables buid in. if you need a gui, install firestarter from universe
[10:58] <onkarshinde> mahangu: By the way breezy now has gparted installed by default AFAIK
[10:58] <indypende> someone have a nicely gnomebaker? working?
[10:58] <tiglionabbit> woot breezy badger's updates page says it has a "dual boot" mode for partitioning, that resizes your other os automatically.  Now I don't have to be there to help people change their partition tables
[10:58] <onkarshinde> indypende: Any problem wit it? Didn't actually use it. Just installed.
[10:58] <rem_> mahan ...gparted
[10:59] <onkarshinde> tiglionabbit: It was present in hoary too.
[10:59] <Siropel> can someone help me in private regarding vnc on ubuntu ?
[10:59] <indypende> onkarshinde, i've got it run but he freeze everytime!
[10:59] <nnn> Hi. tell me somebody how can I use(install) e17 with Ubuntu 5.10???
[10:59] <indypende> onkarshinde, just start and stop at "baking disk" stage!
[10:59] <helpme> is there a nice irc chat client for ubuntu?
[11:00] <rem_> x-chat
[11:00] <helpme> what irc client r u guys using?
[11:00] <indypende> helpme, xchat!
[11:00] <helpme> other than xchat:)
[11:00] <_mindspin> Konversation
[11:00] <onkarshinde> indypende: What ubuntu version? What gnome-baker version? Does it relate to dma problem?
[11:00] <electron> the firewall must be stoping everything, I cant ping my other computer eather
[11:00] <helpme> can i install konverstation in ubuntu? what extra stuff will be installed? whole kde?
[11:00] <onkarshinde> helpme: gaim
[11:00] <indypende> onkarshinde, sheat, the dma!
[11:00] <indypende> onkarshinde, sorry!
[11:01] <indypende> onkarshinde, i will be back!
[11:01] <slept> Siropel, help in private is never a good idea , you loose all the control that will save you from breaking your system, just ask your question if someone knows you'll get help
[11:01] <indypende> onkarshinde, ;)
[11:02] <slept> electron, does networking in general work ? get nmap to findout which ports are open
[11:02] <electron> well it was on my other pcs
[11:02] <helpme> onkarshinde: u really think gaim is an easy-to-use irc client???
[11:02] <mllr> onkarshinde: gaim for irc? I did no know that.
[11:03] <mllr> not
[11:03] <mllr> oops
[11:03] <onkarshinde> helpme: I use Gaim for everything I can. Yahoo, MSN, GTalk, IRC
[11:03] <onkarshinde> Gaim is not as good as xchat, but it works.
[11:03] <dazvid> onkarshinde, too bad the sounds are horrible in gaim :(
[11:04] <mllr> helpme: what are you really looking for in a irc client?
[11:04] <helpme> dazvid: i think they r good:)
[11:04] <rob^> what the heck do you need sounds for?
[11:04] <C-Keen> helpme: usually only the necessary kdelibs will be installed
[11:04] <helpme> something like konversation but not kde app:)
[11:04] <helpme> i see
[11:04] <C-Keen> helpme: well there is xchat for example
[11:04] <dazvid> helpme, really?! they make my ears bleed. I would prefer something like the gnome login prompt noise :)
[11:05] <rob^> ouch
[11:05] <onkarshinde> rob^: I agree
[11:05] <C-Keen> helpme: or if you like to, have a look at irssi a console based irc client
[11:05] <helpme> when can we expect webcam support in gaim??
[11:05] <propagandhi> opera's IRC client is pretty good
[11:05] <dazvid> helpme, apparently in v2.0
[11:05] <slept> helpme, irssi-text works aswell , try all and you'll know what you like
[11:05] <onkarshinde> helpme: By end of year, Gaim 2.0.0
[11:05] <electron> yeah it's heaps weird, it's like the networking isn't working on this computer
[11:05] <electron> but it's setup correct Im pretty sure
[11:06] <onkarshinde> helpme: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/index.php?id=162 Also google talk voice support
[11:06] <dazvid> rob^, sorry I ignored your question before.. I like sounds so that when im not looking at the screen I can be notified. I dont like the Yahoo noises or AIM noises either :)
[11:06] <helpme> thx slept
[11:06] <helpme> im waiting for gaim2:)
[11:06] <onkarshinde> !gaim
[11:06] <ubotu> it has been said that gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[11:06] <rob^> sometime I set the pc speaker to beep on message
[11:07] <fdelacruz> Guys having problem installing ubuntu in my SATA i got this error kernel panic not syncing
[11:07] <rob^> s/sometime/sometimes
[11:07] <electron> yes it's just this computer becuase my other 2 boxes can communicate other ethernet
[11:07] <helpme> mllr: thx..i cant pm
[11:07] <dazvid> system beeps are horrible :P
[11:07] <electron> please join #flood to help me
[11:07] <rob^> yeah but it does its job
[11:07] <slept> electron, did you nmap it to find out which ports are closed ?
[11:08] <onkarshinde> !gaim2
[11:08] <ubotu> onkarshinde: Are you smoking crack?
[11:08] <rob^> and doesn't mess with my mp3s
[11:08] <dazvid> I guess
[11:08] <electron> just getting it
[11:09] <slept> electron, you have to put names in front of your messages or write longer sentences that other people can help aswell
[11:09] <onkarshinde> ubotu: gaim2 is rumour is that Gaim 2.0 will support Yahoo & MSN webcams and GoogleTalk voice. Expected to be released by end of year. http://gaim.sourceforge.net/index.php?id=162
[11:09] <ubotu> okay, onkarshinde
[11:09] <onkarshinde> !gaim2
[11:09] <ubotu> gaim2 is, like, rumour is that Gaim 2.0 will support Yahoo & MSN webcams and GoogleTalk voice. Expected to be released by end of year. http://gaim.sourceforge.net/index.php?id=162
[11:10] <r0xoR> has the dead mirror issue been resolved?
[11:10] <el-stupido> how do I test if my mic is working?
[11:10] <rob^> er, ubotu needs a factiod on that why?
[11:10] <onkarshinde> r0xoR: not yet. Read the topic
[11:10] <electron> el-stupido, aumix
[11:10] <r0xoR> oh sht, i just did, but i didn't see it
[11:10] <r0xoR> oh well
[11:10] <r0xoR> el-stupido, ping it?
[11:10] <onkarshinde> rob^: What do you mean?
[11:11] <r0xoR> el-stupido, define working
[11:11] <rob^> onkarshinde, if we want to know about gaim, we would go look at the web site
[11:11] <el-stupido> r0xoR: i dont have aumix i installed TS right now and i can hear them but they cant hear me
[11:11] <electron> slept, PORT   STATE SERVICE
[11:11] <electron> 22/tcp open  ssh
[11:11] <electron> thats all
[11:11] <rob^> ubotu is for help not spam
[11:11] <electron> but I still can't access it
[11:11] <r0xoR> oh
[11:11] <r0xoR> mic not nic :) sorry my bad
[11:11] <r0xoR> what's TS?
[11:11] <mllr> Damn anyone here the new Franz Ferdinand album, not so bad.
[11:12] <onkarshinde> rob^: This is about GAIM 2, and people don't generally go to other sites is they want one line info. If you think it is useless then erase it.
[11:12] <r0xoR> mllr, i don't think anyone knows who that is
[11:12] <r0xoR> :P i don't
[11:12] <el-stupido> r0xoR: Team Speak
[11:12] <rob^> just wondering why you would put it in is all
[11:12] <dazvid> onkarshinde, I didnt know about the linkn so thanks :P
[11:12] <rob^> it is pretty useless
[11:12] <el-stupido> r0xoR: its a util for talking to team mates ingame
[11:12] <r0xoR> ahh
[11:12] <slept> electron, you want the machine to be reachabel via ssh ? that should work . How do you try it? make sure the user with wich you are trying to connect exists on the target machine
[11:13] <electron> slept, I can't even ping the box
[11:13] <onkarshinde> r0xoR: I suppose he is refering to Team Speak. It is outcome of Google Summer of Code
[11:13] <electron> It's asif it doesn't exist...
[11:13] <fdelacruz> electron what is ur problem
[11:13] <hai> can anyone recommend a good encrypt program?
[11:14] <slept> electron, but that machine has a network connection ?
[11:14] <hai> encryption*
[11:14] <r0xoR> onkarshinde, ok... el-stupido... so i have no clue man sorry
[11:14] <electron> Im setting this box up as a internet gateway, but I cannot ping it from my other 2 boxes, but the other 2 boxes can ping each other..
[11:14] <r0xoR> el-stupido, have you tried your mic in any other apps?
[11:14] <electron> This box has the 56k modem
[11:14] <slept> electron, did you try to ping from that machine ?
[11:14] <el-stupido> r0xoR: nope... but i would like to know if its working
[11:14] <onkarshinde> hai: It depends on what your purpose. I use GPG along with Enigmail for mails. GPG can encrypt files also.
[11:14] <electron> yes
[11:14] <r0xoR> el-stupido, so try a different app that makes use of the mic then
[11:15] <slept> electron, does it have a dhcp, dns server?
[11:15] <fdelacruz> electron have you try pinging the other two machine from your gateway
[11:15] <helpme> btw whos idea was it to have ubuntu with gnome.........mark shuttleworth? and why? any reasons?
[11:15] <fdelacruz> is your gateway can ping itself
[11:15] <helpme> anyone knows?
[11:15] <hai> i have very simple encryption needs: encrypt files before burning them to cds.
[11:16] <C-Keen> helpme: if you don't like it you can choose between a variety of desktops
[11:16] <rob^> helpme, there is kubuntu and xubuntu too
[11:16] <helpme> i didnt say i dont like gnome...cmon.i love gnome:)
[11:16] <onkarshinde> hai: gpg would help.
[11:16] <el-stupido> r0xoR: trying krecord now
[11:16] <helpme> im just curious........
[11:16] <hai> thanks. i'm looking into it.
[11:16] <onkarshinde> rob^: I didn't know about xubuntu. Where is it?
[11:17] <helpme> coz edubuntu too is gnome-based...why not other desktops?
[11:17] <rob^> no cds yet, but the meta package is in the repos
[11:17] <rob^> xubuntu-desktop
[11:17] <onkarshinde> rob^: ahh
[11:17] <ideafix> i friend of mine told me ubuntu is spyware
[11:17] <rob^> hahaha
[11:17] <rob^> troll
[11:18] <slept> electron, you can use dnsmasq, it works out of the box if you like to
[11:18] <ideafix> thats is why it doesnt have firewall
[11:18] <helpme> lol
[11:18] <ideafix> an no root password
[11:18] <helpme> ideafix: really? a reviewer said this was  a bad point of ubuntu.........
[11:18] <ideafix> and is sponsored by a security analist
[11:18] <helpme> ubuntu doesnt need firewall?
[11:18] <electron> electron@guardian:~$ ping 192.168.0.2
[11:18] <electron> PING 192.168.0.2 (192.168.0.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
[11:18] <electron> From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[11:18] <electron> grr
[11:18] <electron> wtf is it
[11:19] <electron> hello?
[11:19] <electron> this box is rooted
[11:19] <electron> hello?
[11:19] <electron> this box is rooted
[11:19] <rob^> if you want a firewall just do: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[11:19] <propagandhi> ideafix: spyware??? for goodness sake
[11:19] <slept> electron, get nmap and do nmap 192.168.0.*
[11:19] <helpme> electron: chill out
[11:19] <propagandhi> what a moron
[11:19] <ideafix> thats what he told me
[11:19] <ideafix> thats why they ship cds
[11:19] <slept> electron, maybe the other boxes have 192.168.1.
[11:19] <electron> Im not using DHCP and this box cannot ping the other 2 and the other 2 cannot ping this box but they can ping eachother
[11:19] <ideafix> to know were you live etc etc
[11:20] <electron> no, they dont, I set them as 192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.3
[11:20] <slept> ideafix, forget it you are paranoid
[11:20] <helpme> how fast do kde apps load in gnome? same as in kde or faster?
[11:20] <propagandhi> ideafix: yes and they all sit out the front of your house with directional microphones too
[11:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> when i log out of my x session, my screen gets no signal when the gdm/kdm comes up.
[11:20] <propagandhi> its just one big conspiracy
[11:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone know a lot about x.org?
[11:20] <ideafix> thats what my friend told me
[11:21] <rob^> nmap -p0 ipaddress
[11:21] <helpme> how fast do kde apps load in gnome? same as in kde or faster?
[11:21] <rob^> about the same
[11:21] <ideafix> i think hes ritght
[11:21] <propagandhi> ideafix: get a new friend
[11:21] <propagandhi> ideafix: and you have no idea what you're talking about
[11:22] <slept> electron, install dnsmaq and set the other boxes to dhcp
[11:22] <helpme> rob^: :)...that really makes me happy......
[11:22] <ideafix> i dont
[11:22] <ideafix> you got me there
[11:22] <electron> no, I shouldn't have to do that, I NEVER have done that
[11:22] <ideafix>  so is claim to me make sence
[11:23] <electron> It ALWAYS works for me untill I installed Ubuntu
[11:23] <helpme> anyone tried adept here? how does it fare with synaptic?
[11:23] <yannux> hye everybody :)
[11:23] <slept> electron, yes, it should work but its an easy way and having a dhcp server is nice
[11:23] <electron> what should the gateway be for this? the same as the eth0 ip?
[11:23] <rob^> synaptic is better (more mature)
[11:23] <slept> electron, what did nmap give you ?
[11:23] <electron> SSH 22 is open
[11:24] <yannux> I've a little trouble with ati fglrx driver
[11:24] <claes> ideafix, check if you have link with sudo mii-tool
[11:24] <slept> electron, no, for the other machines ?
[11:24] <electron> but this box still cannot ping or be pinged
[11:24] <yannux> module is on
[11:24] <yannux> xorg.conf seems to be good
[11:24] <modu> electro : Are you sure you have set your IP on the correct NIC ? Perhaps it's now on eth1
[11:24] <yannux> but no 3D acceleration with chromium :s
[11:24] <slept> electron, if it cant ping you have no connection to the network
[11:24] <helpme> :(
[11:24] <electron> Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -P0
[11:24] <ideafix> whats link with sudo mii-tool ?
[11:25] <mwe> yannux: and glxinfo says it's using mesa?
[11:25] <vnpaven> Hello everybody
[11:25] <electron> slept, obviously...
[11:25] <slept> electron, what does ifconfig give you, you can paste in #flood
[11:26] <vnpaven> Can you show me how to install Ubuntu from Harddisk?
[11:26] <rob^> vnpaven, you need to use an install cd
[11:26] <yannux> mwe, server glx vendor string: SGI
[11:26] <yannux>    ? :s
[11:26] <rob^> vnpaven, just put it in your cd drive and reboot
[11:26] <yannux> mwe, seems to be SGI :s
[11:26] <electron> But the cable is right and the setting here look right too
[11:27] <mwe> yannux: what does /usr/X11R6/bin/fglrxinfo say?
[11:28] <yannux> mwe, euh it's long, I can past to you in pv ?
[11:28] <mwe> yannux: paste in #flood
[11:28] <rob^> grr
[11:29] <modu> electron : connect only the local NIC, then check the lnk with mii-tool, then check IP and netmask of the gw
[11:29] <electron> local nic?
[11:29] <rob^> yay I love flood bots
[11:29] <electron> this one?
[11:29] <modu> NIC of you local network
[11:29] <electron> I have a 56k modem
[11:29] <electron> with 3 pcs connected via 10mbit hub
[11:30] <modu> modem + NIC ?
[11:30] <electron> yeah
[11:30] <modu> Is the link OK on your gw ?
[11:30] <electron> eth0: autonegotiation failed, link ok
[11:31] <electron> this is the gw
[11:31] <yannux> mwe, yep :)
[11:31] <modu> Not good, but should work ..
[11:31] <dazvid> !ops
[11:31] <ubotu> well, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[11:31] <electron> this is screwed
[11:31] <electron> I might go back to debian
[11:31] <modu> try to ping 3times one of your PC, then do "arp -a"
[11:31] <electron> at least it WORKS
[11:32] <rob^> pfft whatever
[11:32] <mwe> yannux: sudo mv /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL_so_1_2_bak && sudo ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib
[11:32] <silent_scream> how to get 5.1 suround to work? i have a creative sb live! 24bit, and and 5.1 creative speakers, but i get sound only from the 2 front speakers and the sub woofer...
[11:32] <Bergcube> Blearg!  My mind is going...  I can feel it...  There is some simple thingamajing you can do with command lines like "sude gedit blah-blah.blah" that gives you the prompt back right away.  Hm, this might be called spwaning?  Anyway, can somebody refresh my faulty memory?
[11:32] <electron> ? (192.168.0.2) at <incomplete> on eth0
[11:32] <Seveas> dazvid, ?
[11:32] <mwe> yannux: then give me the output from /usr/X11R6/bin/fglrxinfo again
[11:33] <dazvid> Spam bots were joining
[11:33] <Seveas> ah
[11:33] <slept> electron, what do you mean with at least , it works perfect , it's just little bit older
[11:33] <dazvid> and then immediately leaving?
[11:33] <Bergcube> ( And now I see I cannot even type "sudo" correctly..... )
[11:33] <mwe> yannux: brb
[11:33] <yannux> mwe, ok I do
[11:34] <modu> electron: it seems t be a link problem ? strange ...
[11:34] <guowei> nickname:guowei
[11:34] <electron> yes
[11:34] <electron> I dunno wtf it is
[11:34] <electron> Maybe a reboot?
[11:34] <yannux> mwe, say me when you are gone ;)
[11:34] <electron> stupid pice of shit
[11:34] <electron> bbs
[11:35] <modu> electro : no , what king of NIC d you have ?
[11:35] <electron> RT
[11:35] <modu> kind
[11:35] <electron> this box was a gateway with debian before, as is
[11:35] <electron> haven't changed anything
[11:35] <electron> it was working with debian before
[11:35] <slept> why did you change ?
[11:35] <electron> Realtek
[11:35] <electron> long story
[11:36] <slept> :)
[11:36] <electron> plus I wanted to try this sucker out
[11:36] <electron> I dunno why its not working
[11:36] <electron> It's making me feel really sick
[11:36] <electron> Im gonna reboot the POS
[11:36] <bobbyd> hi
[11:37] <modu> electro : what is your netmask on your hosts ? 192.168.0.0/24 ?
[11:37] <electron> hosts?
[11:37] <modu> on your PC and gw
[11:37] <electron> on this box?
[11:37] <electron> do I do ifconfig eth0?
[11:37] <electron> look in flood
[11:38] <modu> electro : your card does not received any packets ?..
[11:39] <bobbyd> how do I write to an NTFS partition? I know I have to use the first generation driver, but I'm not sure how to do that under ubuntu.
[11:39] <ubuntunewbie2> How do I Install ubuntu and make it lighter for old machines ?
[11:39] <slept> electron, try ping 192.168.0.1 for the gw
[11:40] <electron> from the here?
[11:40] <slept> yes
[11:40] <electron> this is the gw
[11:40] <neotrophy> How do I get patches/packages into ubuntu?  I'm afraid to reboot my computer ATM, because it's "upgraded" the kernel in a dist-upgrade and I won't have drivers for 2 of my soundcards.
[11:40] <dazvid> bobbyd, you cant write to NTFS
[11:40] <IntoX94> printf("hello word!!");
[11:40] <modu> slept : it will use the loopback
[11:40] <bobbyd> dazvid, you can with the first generation NTFS driver.
[11:40] <dazvid> mmmm interesting
[11:41] <modu> electron : try sudo mii-tools -F 10baseT-HD eth0
[11:42] <electron> nothing
[11:43] <neotrophy> Ah, cool, I've just found the stuff about MOTU
[11:43] <bobbyd> dazvid, also: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[11:43] <slept> electron, can you paste /etc/network/interfaces on #flood
[11:43] <modu> what does print "sudo mii-tools" now ?
[11:43] <dazvid> bobbyd, I have been misinformed. Thanks for link
[11:46] <electron> done
[11:47] <mahangu> i need some help sitting up kismet
[11:47] <mahangu> *setting
[11:47] <mahangu> anyone?
[11:47] <modu> electro : what does print "sudo mii-tools" now ?
[11:48] <dazvid> Can someone direct me to where the whole "It just works (tm)" thing started?
[11:48] <rss> is the Composite extension enabled for Xorg for breezy?
[11:49] <rss> for displaying translucent/transparent windows
[11:49] <jhank> yes it is
[11:49] <jhank> you just need the appropriate packages
[11:49] <jhank> transset and another one
[11:49] <mllr> dazvid: what is that from? the "It just works"
[11:50] <el-stupido> hwo do I edit a text file thru console?
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any way to change the icon that appears when i login from x?  i don't want that black dude icon.
[11:50] <dazvid> mllr, Lots of people use it when talking about linux stuff
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> el-stupido pico
[11:50] <slept> el-stupido, nano file
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> el-stupido pico blah.txt
[11:50] <dazvid> i.e. "ubuntu just works (tm)"
[11:50] <slept> el-stupido, joe
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> if ubuntu just worked(tm) i'd be able to type a trademark symbol right now.
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> but i can't because breezy broke my keymap.
[11:50] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER: pico == nonfree
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> so what?
[11:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> it works
[11:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> and you have to remember all sorts of commands to use vi
[11:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> there's nano i guess.  isn't that an open source pico clone?
[11:51] <kbrooks> debian doesnt include pico anymore
[11:51] <ekimus> hi, anyone knows of a good library program, preferably not using a database, i have 16GB of ebooks to manage
[11:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> well i have it in ubuntu dude.
[11:51] <kbrooks> yes it is a pico clone
[11:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> ekimus rhythmbox
[11:52] <ekimus> BROKEN_LADDER: how can rythmbox manage pdfs?
[11:52] <slept> BROKEN_LADDER, use joe its great
[11:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh lol
[11:52] <rss> jhank: installed transset... what other package it may need?
[11:52] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER: i dont have pico in ANY of my repos
[11:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> you mean not audio books.
[11:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> kbrooks weird.
[11:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have it on my ubuntu system.
[11:53] <jhank> rss xcompmgr
[11:53] <rss> fdclock is not transparent
[11:53] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER: you sure
[11:53] <rss> jhank: installed
[11:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> kbrooks it's just a link to nano.
[11:53] <dazvid> pico just opens up nano :)
[11:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> yeah
[11:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just noticed
[11:53] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER: please!
[11:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> how cute
[11:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> please what ?
[11:53] <ekimus> BROKEN_LADDER: when did i say something about audiobooks?
[11:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> ekimus you said ebooks.
[11:53] <rss> jhank: newest version
[11:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> i thought you meant electronic books in mp3 format or something.
[11:54] <jhank> rss i googled for transset ubuntu i think and found a tutorial... you also have to add some extension to xorg.conf
[11:54] <electron> slept!!
[11:54] <electron> look in #flood
[11:54] <rss> jhank: thanks for the lead
[11:54] <jhank> rss no worries
[11:54] <ekimus> so anyone else knows a library management software (not database backed)?
[11:55] <el-stupido> slept: nano file?
[11:55] <nevyn> ekimus: why not database backed?
[11:55] <slept> electron, I'm not sure it looks right , compared to my server to only thing I don't have is network 192.168.0.0
[11:55] <rss> ekimus: personal? or a big one
[11:55] <kbrooks> nevyn: 16GB
[11:55] <slept> el-stupido, have a try
[11:56] <el-stupido> slept: how do i use it?
[11:56] <nevyn> ekimus: what about that one the kiwi's made
[11:56] <nevyn> kbrooks: ?
[11:56] <rss> nevyn: koha?
[11:56] <nevyn> rss: that one.
[11:56] <kbrooks> nevyn: he said so
[11:56] <ekimus> nevyn: and that would be which one?
[11:56] <nevyn> koah
[11:56] <rss> ekimus: koha
[11:56] <nevyn> koha even
[11:56] <slept> el-stupido, have a try its an editor you can't break things.
[11:56] <kbrooks> ekimus hi, anyone knows of a good library program, preferably not using a database, i have 16GB of ebooks to manage
[11:56] <rss> ekimus: if it is for a large library then it is the one
[11:57] <rss> ekimus: or openbiblio
[11:57] <electron> what do you have?
[11:57] <nevyn> kbrooks: but that's the files not the metadata
[11:57] <rss> ekimus: is it for personal collection?
[11:57] <Orborde> Is there any way I can mount in a filesystem via sftp ?
[11:57] <ThePyromaniac> hey guys, i have a question and a reccomendation
[11:57] <nevyn> 16gig isn't a big deal to put in a database
[11:57] <ThePyromaniac> anyone looking for a PHP editor, BLuefish rocks!
[11:57] <Comco> so Ubuntu is spyware huh? ;)
[11:57] <slept> electron, I can paste, but mine is with dhcp,dns and dsl, might not be of great use for you
[11:58] <ekimus> rss: not really, to be used at the local university institute
[11:58] <propagandhi> how ridiculous
[11:58] <kbrooks> Comco: thats bullshit
[11:58] <nevyn> but the point would be not to put the content in the management system
[11:58] <electron> how do I change that network part?
[11:58] <rss> ekimus: use one of them
[11:58] <propagandhi> that has to be the most pathetic thing i've heard yet
[11:58] <electron> should it be .1?
[11:58] <ThePyromaniac> also, is it possible to install a 32 bit Kernal on a 64 bit pc?
[11:58] <Comco> of course it is
[11:58] <Comco> heh
[11:58] <rss> ekimus: Koha has a live cd, try that.
[11:58] <propagandhi> I was just telling comco about ideafix
[11:58] <kbrooks> Comco: it is NOT spyware, what makes you think it is
[11:58] <rss> propagandhi: your nick is funny
[11:58] <Comco> kbrooks: i dont think it is!
[11:58] <nevyn> ThePyromaniac: sure but you need a full 32bit system then
[11:58] <topyli> Comco: how's that?
[11:58] <slept> electron,  pasted the part that might be of intrest fo you
[11:58] <electron> I might reboot
[11:59] <propagandhi> rss: how so good sir?
[11:59] <ThePyromaniac> nevyn ok, doh nevermind
[11:59] <nevyn> ThePyromaniac: you can't install a 32bit kernel on a 64bit install
[11:59] <mwe> yannux: ping
[11:59] <mllr> thepyromaniac: but why 32 on 64?
[11:59] <rss> rss: very good
[11:59] <kbrooks> nevyn: he fricking can
[11:59] <ThePyromaniac> having a begger of a time trying to get flash player and win32 codecs working
[11:59] <ThePyromaniac> flash worked on hoary, now doesnt on breezy
[11:59] <nevyn> ThePyromaniac: they won't
[11:59] <slept> electron, you can restart networking
[11:59] <kbrooks> 64 is backward compat with 32
[11:59] <nevyn> kbrooks: sure.
[11:59] <nevyn> but the KERNEL needs to be 64bit
[11:59] <propagandhi> rss: its a band also
[11:59] <rss> propagandhi: portmanteau of Propaganda and Gandhi
[12:00] <kbrooks> nevyn: no it doesnt
[12:00] <propagandhi> i cant say  i thought it up
[12:00] <ThePyromaniac> nevyn gotcha, know anyone thats made a breezy package for flash? someone did for hoary
[12:00] <kbrooks> 64 bit can be mixed with 32
[12:00] <nevyn> kbrooks: if libc is 64bit then I thought it did
[12:00] <nevyn> kbrooks: yeah but only down
[12:00] <ThePyromaniac> kbrooks it can? :D
[12:00] <Ng> you can install a 64bit libc and a 32bit libc
[12:00] <nevyn> so if you have a 64bit kernel libc etc.. you can run a 32bit application
[12:00] <propagandhi> I just cant believe someone attempted to class ubuntu as spyware
[12:00] <Ng> then you can run either
[12:01] <kbrooks> nevyn: *if libc is 32bit*
[12:01] <ThePyromaniac> i have lib32 in my root
[12:01] <propagandhi> Comco: see
[12:01] <m0zone> sup
[12:01] <ThePyromaniac> didnt put it there... lol
[12:01] <rss> propagandhi: who did it?
[12:01] <yannux> mwe, :)
[12:01] <kbrooks> Comco
[12:01] <propagandhi> rss: the band did it
[12:01] <Comco> propagandhi: as ok
[12:01] <nevyn> kbrooks: but can a 32bit libc exec 64bit applications?
[12:01] <Comco> ah
[12:01] <yannux> mwe, so
[12:01] <Comco> kbrooks: yes?
[12:01] <mwe> yannux: I had to answer the phone. did you run the command I suggested?
[12:01] <kbrooks> nevyn: Doubt it. why would it
[12:01] <Ng> nevyn: no
[12:02] <nevyn> which is what I was saying
[12:02] <Q-FUNK> is there any SVG version of the ubuntu circle logo somewhere?
[12:02] <Bergcube> I have a machine that dual-boots Ubuntu and WinXP.  I can see an icon for the XP partition on the desktop and the mount command shows it's mounted R/W.  Even so I get errors saying I lack the permission to access it....
[12:02] <yannux> mwe, yes :)
[12:02] <Ng> if this is amd64 related, install the 32bit unless you know why you need 64bit ;)
[12:02] <yannux> mwe, #flood
[12:02] <nevyn> Ng: just clarifying.
[12:02] <Ng> fair enough :)
[12:02] <nevyn> I need 64bit.. want to use the registers :)
[12:02] <nevyn> more registers good.
[12:02] <Morrowyn> does any perhaps know this, i have 2 screen in x11 , can i turn off 1 display during my x11 session, so that my desktop shrinks from 2560 width to 1280 width ?
[12:03] <ThePyromaniac> guys, please sign here http://www.petitiononline.com/lin64swf/petition-sign.html?
[12:03] <johnsie2> Kwrite has added lots of dots into my cgi script.... how do i get it to open scripts without it putting loads of dots in there?
[12:04] <propagandhi> ThePyromaniac: if i do will they take my kidneys
[12:04] <mllr> thepyromaniac: ditto.
[12:04] <Orborde> Is there any way I can do something like mount -t sftp or mount -t ssh or something?
[12:04] <rss> johnsie2: those are not real dots... they show that there is gap in between
[12:04] <Siropel> is it safe to upgrade from ubuntu 4 to 5.10 ?
[12:04] <ThePyromaniac> only one of them
[12:05] <Orborde> I'm trying to access a network share on my school network, and using -t smb is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay slow.
[12:05] <propagandhi> ThePyromaniac: then its worth it
[12:05] <johnsie2> yeah but it annoys me.... lol
[12:05] <nevyn> -t cifs
[12:05] <Ng> nevyn: yeah, the 64bit mode is faster, it's just a pita if you want to use 32bit proprietary code/plugins ;/
[12:06] <johnsie2> Got rid of them :-)
[12:06] <rss> johnsie2: cool
[12:06] <chicken-man> how do i delete a partition ?
[12:07] <Orborde> nevyn: cifs?
[12:07] <johnsie2> I got enough crap in my code without having to worry about random dots all over the place hehe
[12:07] <Siropel> is it safe to upgrade from ubuntu 4 to 5.10 ?
[12:08] <nevyn> Orborde: comon internet filesystem
[12:08] <nevyn> Orborde: smb is deprecated
[12:08] <kbrooks> Siropel: this isnt windows
[12:09] <Siropel> so the answer is ... ?:D
[12:09] <nevyn> BradZ: boo
[12:09] <chicken-man> how do i delete a partition ?
[12:10] <dazvid> nevyn, where you at?
[12:10] <johnsie2> you can do it from an ubuntu CD chicken man
[12:10] <BradZ> hey nevyn :-)
[12:10] <nevyn> dazvid: melbourne
[12:10] <kbrooks> Siropel: so the answer is yes
[12:10] <dazvid> Where in melb?
[12:10] <chicken-man> it don't work it won't delete a BSD partition
[12:10] <kbrooks> !breezy
[12:10] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:10] <johnsie2> but I'm sure theres prolly an easier way
[12:11] <dazvid> nevyn, where in melb?
[12:11] <jhank> hey mate, another aussie
[12:11] <nevyn> coburg
[12:11] <johnsie2> i dunno then.... I'm a  newbie :-)
[12:11] <kbrooks> johnsie2: this isnt fedora
[12:11] <Siropel> thq kbrooks
[12:11] <Orborde> nevyn: Thanks.
[12:11] <dazvid> nevyn, reason I ask is I have a friend named "neven" just thought it would be weird if it was you. hah
[12:11] <nevyn> not me
[12:11] <kbrooks> johnsie2: where u have to "upgrade" by re d/ling the cd
[12:12] <kbrooks> and rebooting the cd
[12:12] <nevyn> real name is in whois
[12:12] <dazvid> ah k
[12:12] <kbrooks> and ... well, too much hassle ;)
[12:12] <rss> what is an aussie?
[12:12] <kbrooks> rss: australian
[12:12] <dazvid> rss, a person from australia
[12:12] <rss> oh
[12:12] <ubuntunewbie2> What's the minimum system requirments for breezy ? Can breezy be installed on a 300 mhz 64 mb system ?
[12:12] <Comco> rss: you didn't know that? lol
[12:12] <johnsie2> no but if you have a a cd that works ;-)
[12:12] <dazvid> Its a slang term :)
[12:13] <kbrooks> ubuntunewbie2: 300 MB hd?
[12:13] <rss> is it offensive?
[12:13] <ubuntunewbie2> 300 mhz
[12:13] <nevyn> ubuntunewbie2: I wouldn't
[12:13] <Comco> no way, we call ourselves that mate
[12:13] <kbrooks> rss: no it isnt
[12:13] <Comco> rss: more like a compliment...well that's how we choose to take it... ;)
[12:13] <jhank> hehe that's right comco
[12:13] <kbrooks> ubuntunewbie2: how big is the hd
[12:13] <propagandhi> unless the word bloody precedes it
[12:14] <kbrooks> brb
[12:14] <nevyn> at the other end.. why am I having issues installing ubuntu on a 3ghz socket 775 celeron on a 945 Intel M/B?
[12:14] <rss> what about Pommy?
[12:14] <ubuntunewbie2> 3 gb
[12:14] <nevyn> reading IDE get's screwed up.
[12:14] <dazvid> rss, thats a tricky one. We call the english pommy, but the english call us pommy
[12:14] <Comco> rss: what about pommy?
[12:14] <propagandhi> rss: you;d have to ask a pommy
[12:14] <rss> aussies are called pommies...
[12:15] <propagandhi> rss: i havent been called a pommy to date
[12:15] <ajmitch_> rss: the term 'aussie' is only offensive when applied to kiwis ;)
[12:15] <vnpaven> Can you install Ubuntu from harddisk?
[12:15] <ajmitch_> anyway, it's a bit OT
[12:15] <Comco> dazvid: are yes, i had this argument with an..englishwoman  while i was in canada. she called me a pommy to which i replied, "no...YOU are a pommy, you silly pommy"
[12:15] <rss> whole conversation was OT
[12:15] <propagandhi> lol
[12:15] <bimberi> ajmitch_: West Islanders :P
[12:15] <vnpaven> lozl
[12:15] <rss> etymology is...
[12:15] <xvlun> re
[12:16] <rss> Prisoners of Her/His Majesty became POHM which transformed into POMMY
[12:16] <Comco> She claimed i was called a pom because i am a "prisoner of mother england"...to which i replied that if I'm the prisoner, how come she's still stuck in england while we all live on a tropical island paradise?
[12:16] <Comco> hehe
[12:16] <dazvid> heh nice ;P
[12:16] <rss> prisoners were exiled from England to australia
[12:16] <vnpaven> Please help me
[12:17] <vnpaven> I want to install ubuntu from harddisk :(
[12:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> they was bad
[12:17] <rss> prisoners built australia
[12:17] <chicken-man> how do i delete a partition ?
[12:17] <Comco> rss: thanks for teaching my about my own history dude
[12:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> rss yet australia is so freakin gorgeous and nice
[12:17] <propagandhi> dodgeridoo: a fake indigenous artefact
[12:17] <Comco> rss: prisoners settled australia, religious zelots settled america...and yet, you have a higher murder rate per capita than us...go figure...hehe
[12:18] <_mindspin> vnpaven: what do you mean from harddisK?
[12:18] <rob^> this is a little off topic
[12:18] <Comco> rss: sorry...i assumed you were american...may not be true
[12:18] <rob^> -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:18] <alexissoft> hi
[12:18] <rss> rss: not true
[12:18] <rss> rss: we share the same wealth
[12:18] <chicken-man> how do i delete a partition ?
[12:18] <rss> rss: commonwealth :o)
[12:19] <rss> Comco: Commonwealth... irssi is driving me crazy
[12:19] <Comco> rss: irssi?
[12:19] <ajmitch_> rss: come on, getting increasingly off-topic :P
[12:19] <rss> yes
[12:19] <rss> that is what makes irc channels interesting
[12:19] <Comco> uh huh
[12:20] <rss> off-topic and offensive messages rule!
[12:20] <chicken-man> how do i delete a partition ?
[12:20] <ajmitch_> rss: annoying ops isn't a good way to make things 'interesting' though
[12:20] <rob^> there is a channel -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:20] <rob^> take it there
[12:20] <_mindspin> chicken-man: cfdisk ?
[12:20] <rob^> chicken-man, try gparted
[12:21] <rss> ajmitch_: you are a mortal chatter like myself :P
[12:21] <propagandhi> #ubuntu-wont-have-us
[12:21] <Comco> haha
[12:21] <rob^> this is a help channel
[12:21] <rob^> not a discussion channel
[12:21] <Comco> #ubuntu-rebellion-begins-at-home
[12:21] <chicken-man> ahhhh thanks :-P
[12:22] <rss> rob^: I was helping myself to some nonsense
[12:22] <rob^> rss do it elsewhere
[12:22] <rss> rob^: sure
[12:23] <sigwada> its my five days working with my torrent files and i cant open it.
[12:24] <dazvid> For anyone who wants to chat offtopic, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:24] <kbrooks> sigwada: then install bittorrent
[12:24] <propagandhi> or come join us in #ubuntu-wont-have-us
[12:24] <sigwada> how can i get one? is there any command to get bittorent?
[12:25] <nevyn> so anyone seen issues with all DI based disks on intel 945
[12:25] <kbrooks> sigwada: synaptic
[12:25] <nnn> How I can use Flash Drive USB in Ubuntu 5.10???
[12:26] <rss> nnn: just plug it in
[12:26] <mahangu> nnn, just plug
[12:26] <mahangu> :D
[12:26] <rss> nnn: you will see a window of the file manager pop up
[12:26] <sigwada> what will i do with synaptic? im i newbie here in ubuntu, im not yet familliar. what will i do to synaptic to get bittorrent?
[12:26] <mahangu> rss, i LOVE saying that
[12:26] <mahangu> don't you? :)
[12:26] <rss> mahangu: ya!
[12:26] <mahangu> sigwada, bit torrent ships with ubuntu
[12:26] <mahangu> Applications -> Internet -> GNOME Bittorrent
[12:26] <mahangu> :)
[12:26] <rss> mahangu: plug and pray
[12:27] <mahangu> rss, i like saying that too
[12:27] <mahangu> haha
[12:27] <mahangu> MS is that
[12:27] <mahangu> plug and pray
[12:27] <mahangu> and then hunt for drivers for 4 days
[12:27] <mahangu> :)
[12:27] <nnn> rss: I can'e see anything???
[12:27] <sigwada> i dont see any bittorent in application>internet>
[12:27] <silent_scream> my prob: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=374595 thanx in advance..
[12:28] <mahangu> nnn, check in Places -> Computer
[12:28] <Phr0zenKore> lol, i have some tips for people who have to download big books
[12:28] <Phr0zenKore> put it in a file and wget -i download
[12:28] <Phr0zenKore> xD
[12:29] <nnn> mahangu: I understand... but NO nothing...
[12:29] <mahangu> nnn, wierd man, are you sure the USB slots work?
[12:29] <mahangu> what's the brand of the drive?
[12:29] <mahangu> ubuntu has found EVERYTHING i give it
[12:29] <mahangu> including webcams
[12:29] <rob^> signius, its there
[12:30] <sigwada> i really want to open my torrent files, and i download a bittorent client but when i install any theres an error. how could i resolve my problem?
[12:30] <nnn> mahangu: Yes ... in Windows I can use it
[12:30] <mahangu> sigwada, like I said Applications -> Internet ->GNOME Bit torrent
[12:30] <mahangu> simple and sweet .torrent client
[12:30] <mahangu> nnn, i asked the brand name
[12:30] <strannik> hello guys
[12:30] <nnn> mahangu: 
[12:30] <mahangu> nnn, WTF
[12:30] <nnn> mahangu: EasyDisk
[12:31] <mahangu> oh
[12:31] <mahangu> mmm
[12:31] <mahangu> is that the make?
[12:31] <mahangu> like Kingston
[12:31] <strannik> could somebody tell me this: i typed sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[12:31] <nnn> mahangu: may be I must load some modules ???
[12:31] <rob^> strannik, read wiki.ubuntu.com/restrictedformats
[12:31] <mahangu> nnn, probably not mate
[12:31] <mahangu> im clueless, ask around
[12:31] <mahangu> ill bbiab
[12:31] <sigwada> yeah but there is no gnome-bittorent in application>internet , it means that there is no bittorent or not yet install.
[12:32] <mahangu> gotta run out now
[12:32] <mahangu> sorry, good luck
[12:32] <mahangu> ubotu, tell strannik about RestrictedFormats
[12:32] <strannik> ok, thank you
[12:32] <rob^> sigwada, click on bittorrent
[12:32] <nnn> mahangu: what name of device in /dev folder use USB flash ... sda?
[12:32] <mahangu> nnn, yeah
[12:32] <mahangu> /dev/sda1
[12:32] <rob^> sigwada, its installed by default
[12:32] <mahangu> /dev/sda2 etc
[12:33] <mahangu> rob^, he's saying it's not there
[12:33] <rob^> mahangu, it would only not be there if he uninstalled it
[12:33] <BradZ> has anyone else got severe nautilus instability on breezy/ppc?
[12:33] <mahangu> rob^, yeah true, i dunno..
[12:33] <BradZ> eek, horrible.
[12:33] <bimberi> gasp https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats features marillat a lot
[12:33] <nnn> mahangu: device not exist... it write me
[12:34] <rob^> sigwada, open a terminal and type gnome-btdownload
[12:34] <nnn> mahangu: I think load some module?
[12:34] <sigwada> bash: gnome-btdownload: command not found
[12:34] <sigwada> thats my problem
[12:35] <dazvid> sigwada, in "Applications > internet" my gnome bit torrent is just called "Bittorrent"
[12:35] <mahangu> nnn, uh no idea mate
[12:35] <MachineScrew> any one looking to run VMware in breezy look here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65638
[12:35] <mahangu> !usb
[12:35] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, mahangu
[12:35] <kbrooks> sigwada:
[12:35] <rob^> sigwada, in a terminal type: sudo apt-get install gnome-btdownload
[12:35] <MachineScrew> it may be the preview but it still should work
[12:35] <kbrooks> sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[12:36] <strannik> heh, in windows i always used cracked soft....ok will work with the replacements
[12:36] <MachineScrew> any one know how to chane gnome-btdownload ports ?
[12:37] <sikor_sxe> yesterday i updated to breezy and now i can't use ndiswrapper anymore. i installed the kernel headers, but it compiling the module still fails
[12:37] <sikor_sxe> :/
[12:38] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: why are you compileing the drivers
[12:38] <Antioch> erm, how do you install the devlopment base tools pack?
[12:38] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: there in the repos
[12:38] <sigwada> theres an error msg. Package gnome-btdownload is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:39] <kbrooks> sigwada: apt-cache search bt
[12:39] <kbrooks> erm
[12:39] <MachineScrew> any one know how to get gnome-btdownload to change the default port
[12:39] <aftertaf> how do you set an executable setuid root in console?
[12:40] <MachineScrew> I am not trying to repeat
[12:40] <sikor_sxe> MachineScrew: the ndiswrapper package simply puts a src tar.bz2 in /usr/src/
[12:40] <sikor_sxe> MachineScrew: and it is quite outdated
[12:40] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: the one I have works fine and it's 1.2
[12:40] <sikor_sxe> but the provided package won't compile either
[12:40] <kbrooks> sigwada: apt-cache search bt | cut -d- -f1 | xargs apt-cache policy
[12:40] <sikor_sxe> MachineScrew: oh
[12:41] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: and it actualy gave me the drivers
[12:41] <sikor_sxe> MachineScrew: which repo do i have to add then?
[12:41] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: universe i believe
[12:42] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: also there is a neat little gtk app do a serch for ndis in synaptic is't awsome
[12:42] <propagandhi> i thought ndiswrapper just compiles a kernel module
[12:43] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: no need for the console open the app and it asks where the inf file is and once done you hit install and it works
[12:43] <MachineScrew> propagandhi: nope
[12:43] <MachineScrew> ndiswrapper is a kernel module that is a bin pakage there are source drivers but I don't mess with those unless I need to
[12:43] <propagandhi> well, when i used ndiswrapper to get a billion usb wireless adapter working, i used modprobe afterwards, isnt that loading a kernel module
[12:44] <MachineScrew> propagandhi: yes it loads one but dosn't compile one
[12:44] <propagandhi> ok
[12:45] <agt> Sry this isn't ubuntu-specific, but whats a good MP3 tagger for Linux ?
[12:45] <MachineScrew> also there is I forget the name of it but ndisgtk and it will install modprobe it and hotplug it for you
[12:46] <MachineScrew> agt: easytag
[12:46] <Ng> agt: easytag and cantus are both very capable
[12:46] <davmor2> I'm having a problem with glxgears it runs but not at speed it should and beacuse of it cedega doesn't work properly.  Is this just down to the X stuff moving?
[12:46] <MachineScrew> agt: it can get infor from cddb
[12:46] <MachineScrew> any one know how to chane gnome-btdownload ports ?
[12:46] <agt> MachineScrew, Ng, Thanks, off to investigate :)
[12:46] <Ng> davmor2: glxgears doesn't run at unlimited speed and print out fps anymore, if you're using breezy.
[12:46] <MachineScrew> ok
[12:47] <sikor_sxe> MachineScrew: i have added universe, and there is no ndiswrapper binary module
[12:47] <Ng> MachineScrew: gnome-btdownload -minport 6661 -maxport 6669
[12:47] <Ng> MachineScrew: or whatever
[12:47] <MachineScrew> Ng thanks
[12:47] <Nobodyreal> My clock is about 15 hours fast even after running ntpdate.  I've made sure I'm in the right timezone.  Anybody have ideas?
[12:47] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: one sec
[12:48] <davmor2> Ng thanks but cedega tries to use it then it comes up with no 3d acceleration
[12:48] <Ng> davmor2: ?!
[12:48] <Ng> davmor2: is that point2play or something?
[12:48] <Ng> cedega has never tried to spawn glxgears for me
[12:48] <davmor2> Ng and yes I'm running breezy
[12:48] <electron__> hi, I get an error when trying to ssh
[12:48] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: the thing you want is called ndiswrapper-utils
[12:48] <Ng> Nobodyreal: what does "sudo ntpdate -b ntp2.ja.net" say?
[12:48] <electron__>   WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!
[12:49] <davmor2> Ng yes point to play small as I'm running 64bit
[12:49] <MachineScrew> hell it's on the cd I forgot
[12:49] <electron__> Please contact your system administrator.
[12:49] <electron__> Add correct host key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message.
[12:49] <electron__> RSA host key for 192.168.0.1 has changed and you have requested strict checking.
[12:49] <rob^> electron__, some could be doing something nasty, or the server has been changed/reinstalled
[12:49] <Ng> davmor2: pass, it's a problem Transgaming will need to fix. You can just invoke cedega from the command line if you want
[12:49] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: just do sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[12:49] <electron__> Nah
[12:49] <electron__> I just set it up
[12:50] <davmor2> Ng how
[12:50] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: that should be all you need
[12:50] <Nobodyreal> Ng, it says time server offset -54006.965032 sec
[12:50] <electron__> rob^, so how do I get it working again?
[12:50] <Ng> davmor2: cedega ~/.transgaming/c_drive/wherever/the/game/is/installed.exe
[12:50] <electron__> It gave me a fingerprint, is that the one I need to add?
[12:50] <rob^> electron__, you might have an old certificate for that ip address
[12:50] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: if you want a gui add ndisgtk after it
[12:50] <davmor2> Ng ta
[12:50] <rob^> electron__, adding it might help
[12:51] <electron__> I just install Ubuntu
[12:51] <Ng> Nobodyreal: did it say "step time server" first?
[12:51] <electron__> The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is ******************************888
[12:51] <Ng> Nobodyreal: and does it say a similar number if you run it a second time?
[12:51] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: so sudo ndiswrapper-utils ndisgtk
[12:51] <electron__> Add correct host key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message.
[12:51] <MachineScrew> that will get you the drivers and the gui
[12:52] <electron__> so I add THAT key to /root/.ssh/known_hosts on the machine I am TRYING to ssh or THIS machine?
[12:52] <Nobodyreal> It did say step time server.  Running it a second time says "timestamp too far in the future" and my clock is right now.
[12:52] <rob^> electron__, the server
[12:52] <[LethAL] > Are there any NTFS RW Drivers that work with Ubuntu? I need to rename one file...
[12:52] <rob^> electron__, there is a command to do it also
[12:52] <Ng> Nobodyreal: bizarre, but at least it's right :)
[12:53] <Nobodyreal> Thanks, Ng ^^
[12:53] <Ng> Nobodyreal: you might want to look at installing ntp-server, it will sit in the background and keep you in time
[12:53] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: you find it
[12:53] <sikor_sxe> i'm on it
[12:53] <electron__> rob^, what is the command?
[12:54] <sikor_sxe> it's a bit messy. i think i compiled a module with the old kernel sources
[12:54] <rob^> electron__, gpg --import
[12:54] <kbrooks> How do I use scp?
[12:54] <MachineScrew> Ng:  is there a way i can get it to run with the ports I need by default
[12:54] <Hendric> is there a CD version of the DVD pack???
[12:55] <Bergcube> [LethAL] ~  I don't know about Ubuntu, but you can du it with the Linspire live CD.
[12:55] <rob^> kbrooks, gftp or via nautilus
[12:55] <[LethAL] > Bergcube, My CD Burner doesn't work with my CD's in Ubuntu
[12:55] <[LethAL] > Or in Windows, which isn't booting anyway
[12:56] <Hendric> [LethAL]  maybe you were burning them the wrong way
[12:56] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: the ubuntu doc in the wiki would have told you about ndiswrapper-utils
[12:56] <electron__> still getting the message
[12:56] <electron__> you sure I don't have to do it on this box?
[12:56] <Ng> MachineScrew: I would say your two easiest options are 1) write a script that calls gnome-btdownload with those parameters and passes on whatever file/url it was called with, 2) Install a more complicated BitTorrent client that will let you configure it
[12:56] <[LethAL] > Hendric, Well it doesn't seem to have anything to do with Ubuntu, but they worked before
[12:56] <Bergcube> [LethAL] ~  Yikes...  Well, then you're up the famous creek I guess.
[12:56] <rob^> electron__,  you have to use the gpg command on the client box
[12:57] <MachineScrew> sikor_sxe: don't make things harder than they need to be :-)
[12:58] <sikor_sxe> rebooting...
[12:58] <electron__> rob^, when I do the command, it just hangs there, doesn't finish
[12:59] <electron__> STILL doing it
[12:59] <electron__> pice of shit
[12:59] <rob^> electron__, you have to also give it a keyfile
[12:59] <Hylas> Anyone know a diagnostic tool for WD sata drives in linux?
[01:01] <rob^> electron__, you could also do: gpg --trusted-key long key ID
[01:01] <electron__> ohhh
[01:02] <electron__> It says its not a valid long key id
[01:02] <electron__> geez this is shitting me
[01:02] <electron__> I think I will just use telnet
[01:02] <rob^> electron__, you have to give it the long key id from the server
[01:02] <electron__> how?
[01:03] <rob^> ssh should just import it
[01:03] <electron__> so ssh this box from the server?
[01:03] <electron__> then do that command with the key it spits out?
[01:03] <rob^> you must have sshed into another box with the same ip address or something
[01:03] <learn25> Help! How to rerset my evolution mail account settings?
[01:03] <learn25> Help! How to reset my evolution mail account settings?
[01:03] <electron__> maybe
[01:03] <mwe> don't repeat
[01:03] <rob^> learn25, just go into the setting and delete the setting
[01:04] <learn25> ok
[01:04] <rob^> then click on new to set up a new email account
[01:04] <rob^> s/setting/account
[01:04] <learn25> thanks guys!
[01:05] <rob^> np
[01:05] <tolle> Anyone here know how I can apply my procmail filters to a already existing mailbox?
[01:05] <rob^> tolle, try #procmail
[01:06] <tolle> I know I should use formail, and my guess is formail -ssomethingmore themailbox |procmail
[01:06] <tolle> rob^: well, could be smart yes.
[01:06] <rob^> heh
[01:06] <rob^> that would be your best bet :)
[01:06] <electron__> I really hope I can get ssh working so I don't have to use a monitor on the server, it's just the guts inside a VCR box
[01:06] <Skibadee> hi all who can give me the server name of the german ubuntu irc ?? please
[01:06] <electron__> laying on my loungeroom floor
[01:07] <rob^> !gr
[01:07] <ubotu> rob^: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:07] <rob^> grr
[01:07] <rob^> !ge
[01:07] <ubotu> rob^: Are you on ritalin?
[01:07] <rob^> dam
[01:09] <Acill> need some help fixing a use login problem
[01:11] <mwe> you need to be more specific
[01:12] <Antioch> how do you install the basic development tools package?
[01:12] <Antioch> where is it locateD?
[01:12] <mwe> aptitude install build-essential
[01:12] <wickedpuppy> Antioch, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:12] <Antioch> thanks, I forgot the name!
[01:13] <Acill> whhen I first got my install booted I had a ser account named guest. It was an account with admin access. I booted into that one, made a new user account for myself, changed the root password to a new one and restricted the guest account. When I log in as paul )the new user account) I have no home dor and it asks if I want to use the root home dor. It fails and wont log in. How can I get in as root or make that user account able to have admin
[01:13] <Acill>  again to create another user that works?
[01:14] <ompaul> Acill, got a live CD ?
[01:14] <ompaul> Acill, actually forget that
[01:14] <Acill> a gentoo one, and I have 2 other working linux installs on that drive
[01:15] <ompaul> Acill, as the machine is booting press esc at the start - go into single usermode and enjoy your visudo
[01:15] <Acill> done
[01:16] <Acill> as the ubuntu is booting?
[01:16] <Acill> I am using a Pegasos machine so this is PPC ununtu
[01:16] <Hylas> Anyone know a diagnostic tool for WD sata drives in linux?
[01:16] <electron__> hmmm, ssh is fucked on my server
[01:16] <electron__> Robi, I done that command and it said it's not a valid key
[01:17] <mwe> Acill: you're not supposed to log in as root, if you can avoid it. log in as a user and use sudo or su -
[01:18] <Acill> mwe: I an log in as guest still fine
[01:18] <Acill> I just cant make any new users now with that accounts access
[01:19] <Acill> I am not a good linux user so I need some help on the sudu
[01:19] <mwe> Acill: and you can't su? you said you set up a root password
[01:19] <Acill> from gnome
[01:19] <rss> Acill: does Pegasus has PPC laptops?
[01:19] <Acill> not yet rss
[01:19] <rss> Acill: s/has/have
[01:20] <CookedGryphon> when i log in it says that my ~/.dmrc file needs user and 644 permissions, i've looked thru the man pages but i'm still not sure what command to use
[01:20] <rss> Acill: what is the website of pegasus?
[01:20] <mwe> Acill: open a terminal and type su - and give it the root password you set up, though ubuntu recommends disabling root login
[01:20] <Skid> CookedGryphon: chmod
[01:20] <CookedGryphon> Skid, chmod what?
[01:20] <Acill> mwe:pegasosppc.org
[01:20] <Skid> CookedGryphon: is the command to change file permissions? :P
[01:20] <electron__> If I do 'apt-get install telnetd' will it start the daemon on system startup?
[01:21] <Skid> chmod <blah> file
[01:21] <CookedGryphon> Skid lol what's teh blah tho
[01:21] <t> hi, are those free shippings for real? i entered my address a while ago
[01:21] <rss> thanks... does it run ubuntu without any qualms?
[01:21] <Acill> mwe:so am I screwed here? I am on as guest now, at a gnome desktop
[01:21] <Skid> 644
[01:21] <t> 5.10 is released, right?
[01:21] <mwe> Acill: no
[01:21] <Acill> I just need to give it rights to create users.
[01:21] <CookedGryphon> i knew that it was somethign to do with chmod, i tried my username and jstu 644 and it dint work
[01:21] <mwe> Acill: you created a root password, right?
[01:21] <Acill> yes
[01:22] <mwe> Acill: then open a gnome terminal
[01:22] <mwe> Acill: then type su - and then the root password
[01:22] <Acill> well I went to the root user in the users admin area and changed the password to a new one
[01:22] <Acill> ok doing it
[01:22] <lorenzod> t, yes they are
[01:22] <lorenzod> t, and yes it is.
[01:22] <CookedGryphon> nvm, i trid chmod 644 .dmrc again, i'll jsut log otu n see if it worked
[01:22] <t> lorenzod, ok. should i expect to wait a lot more?
[01:23] <lorenzod> t, I had to wait a loooooong time for my Hoary disks.
[01:23] <lorenzod> Breezy was just about to be released when they came.
[01:23] <t> like a month?
[01:23] <t> :/
[01:23] <kbrooks> scp is so easy ;)
[01:23] <dbug> how can  i change terminal charset to iso-8859-15 for irssi ?
[01:23] <lorenzod> t, if you can, I suggest downloading the ISO.
[01:24] <kbrooks> kbrooks@kyleb:~ $ scp -2 -4 .ssh/id_rsa kab@shell.berlios.de:/home/users/kab/.ssh
[01:24] <kbrooks> 
[01:24] <t> why dont they mention that when you enter your address??
[01:24] <Acill> damn, its looking like the password didnt work
[01:24] <Acill> I guess I screwed that up
[01:24] <mwe> Acill: no maybe it's because the guest user is not a member of the admin group
[01:24] <Acill> I was sure I did it, the other 2 linux installs (debian and gentoo) all worked fine and I did the same thing
[01:25] <lorenzod> t, I understand your frustration at having to wait. OTOH, they are free disks after all..
[01:25] <mwe> Acill: you don't have a user who is in the admin group?
[01:25] <t> i know, i shouldnt complain. i'll guess i'll download it in stead
[01:25] <t> thanks lorenzod
[01:25] <Acill> mwe:I removed the check box for guest to do admin stuff yes, thats the problem I have. The regular user I made isnt working. Its home dir issnt there
[01:25] <mwe> Acill: ok
[01:26] <mwe> Acill: you can type ctrl+alt+f1 to get a console login , then log in as root. ctrl+alt+f7 will bring you back to X
[01:26] <Acill> ok doing that
[01:27] <Acill> just a sec
[01:27] <Acill> ok in as root at that 2nd console
[01:27] <bigfoot1> how can i get gnome apps to open up the online help or "translate this app" in a new tab inside the same instance of opera browser? Because currently, a new instance of opera is opened.
[01:28] <hubuntu> hei.. im having a problem with ooo which seems to be cross-platform. An issue I should report... I was thinking about using the launchpad, but it seems not to be a project there yet. Anyone? (the issue is in the 2.x branch, not in the 1.1.x)
[01:28] <Acill> ok back at gnome again in the guest account it looks like still
[01:28] <mwe> Acill: yes you have to do your root stuff from the console
[01:28] <chrissturm> hey guys, when will the dapper drake feeds start?
[01:29] <Acill> so do I need to be back at that other console I opened ang logged in as root?
[01:29] <Acill> I have a terminal open in the guest account now
[01:29] <mwe> Acill: yes
[01:29] <lorenzod> chrissturm, they were supposed to open yesterday
[01:29] <lorenzod> but still waiting :-(
[01:30] <hubuntu> by the way... what backports repository can one use at the moment? are there any official backport available 8anytime soon?)?
[01:30] <hubuntu> hei.. im having a problem with OpenOffice.Org which seems to be cross-platform. An issue I should report... I was thinking about using the launchpad, but it seems not to be a project there yet. Anyone? (the issue is in the 2.x branch, not in the 1.1.x)
[01:30] <mwe> Acill: do what you need to do as root in the console outside X.
[01:30] <lorenzod> bigfoot1, I don't think you can ATPIT
[01:30] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: what's atpit+
[01:30] <bigfoot1> ?
[01:31] <mwe> Acill: what's the name of the user account that's broken?
[01:31] <lorenzod> at this point in time..
[01:31] <kbrooks> apt it*
[01:31] <Acill> mwe: paul
[01:31] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: but x-chat can open links inside it to a new tab in the same instance of opera.
[01:32] <lorenzod> bigfoot1, maybe you should file and enhancement request on it?
[01:33] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: file to whom? and if xchat can do it, cannot the other gnome programs?
[01:33] <lorenzod> bigfoot1, you'd post it on bugzilla.
[01:33] <lorenzod> And no, just because xchat can, it doesn't mean other Gnome apps can.
[01:33] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: why do you say so?
[01:34] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: don't i have just have to find the special syntax/argument/line to insert into the "preferred applications" blank for browser?
[01:35] <lorenzod> bigfoot1, you mean a command-line option that opens in a new tab.
[01:35] <lorenzod> that might work. I don't really use opera though.
[01:36] <lorenzod> bigfoot1, if you type opera -h in a terminal, does that give you a list of options?
[01:37] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: well, in xchat/url-handlers, the command for same-window-new-tab is !opera -remote 'openURL(%s,new-page)'
[01:38] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: okay, what happens if you use that as your default web browser?
[01:39] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: nothing happens. i guess it works in xchat but not in opera
[01:39] <bigfoot1> sorry: but not in "preferred applications"
[01:39] <lorenzod> Hm..
[01:40] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: output of opera -h is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3339. I'm a newbie and can't really make sense of it all. Could you take a look and decipher it?
[01:40] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: I guess you used option custom?
[01:40] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: checking..
[01:41] <dazvid> bigfoot that is just help
[01:41] <bigfoot1> anybody here use a program called gnome art (frontend application for art.gnome.org)?
[01:41] <bigfoot1> dazvid: are you referring to the output ?
[01:41] <dazvid> yeh
[01:42] <bigfoot1> dazvid: so what did you want to see?
[01:42] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: yes I do.
[01:42] <bigfoot1> dazvid: or what did you think you'd be seeing?
[01:42] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: you use gnome art? great.
[01:42] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: according to opera -h output, the command seems okay.
[01:42] <dazvid> oh sorry, it was for Lorenzod. My apologies :P
[01:43] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: okay, back to opera command. So which command shoudl i use in "preferred applications/browsers"?
[01:43] <thrillkill> HELP! have no sound with a new install of Ubuntu on a IBM 300PL?
[01:43] <lorenzod> Gnome art ==  great app written in a great language.
[01:43] <lorenzod> how about trying this then: opera -newpage ?
[01:45] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: can you try opera -newpage http://archive.ubuntu.com from a terminal?
[01:45] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: I'm so sorry for putting you to work. But thanks for confirming. I just checked the text I put into preferred apps, and I saw that I forgot the last quotation mark in      'openURL(%s,new-page)'     . I had 'openURL(%s,new-page)
[01:45] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: that's ok.
[01:45] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: now how do we use gnome art! It looks so pretty, but I can't seem to install a theme.
[01:46] <jo_e> hello.  I cannot use the "run as other user" command in the "system tools" menu as anyone but root.  I get "Unable to run /usr/bin/gksu: No such file or directory".  when I try to run gksu directly, I get a message about "Missing a command to run."
[01:46] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: for example, I'd like to install the tux N tosh icon theme
[01:46] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: I have probs with backgrounds, the rest works fine.
[01:46] <delmonico> jo_e: sudo apt-get install gksu?
[01:46] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: Ah yeah, Icon themes download, but don't install IIRC
[01:47] <jo_e> delmonico, I already have the latest version of gksu.
[01:47] <DjKritical> anyone know how to make gnome windows transparent?
[01:47] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: download the theme, then extract it to ~/.icons
[01:47] <DjKritical> I've seen it in screenshots before..
[01:47] <nexus-> jo_e: type which gksu and check where is it
[01:47] <nexus-> jo_e: then you can copy it over
[01:47] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: when i click install, i get the "Theme Preferences" app that pops up. You mean that Gnome Art can't do it all within itself?
[01:47] <electron__> how do I copy a directory?
[01:47] <avalost> DjKritical: gnome doesn't really have true transparency so it's a bit tough
[01:47] <funkyHat> how can i force ESD not to touch one of my soundcards?
[01:47] <jo_e> nexus-, it's in /usr/bin/gksu... so I should just download it and replace the binary?
[01:48] <avalost> electron__: cp dir/ newdir/
[01:48] <nexus-> jo_e: check the permissions on the binary
[01:48] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: Gnome art downloads/installs, then open theme prefs for you to select the theme
[01:48] <electron__> root@guardian:/cdrom # cp downloads/ /var/www/downloads
[01:48] <electron__> cp: omitting directory `downloads/'
[01:48] <jo_e> nexus-," -rwxr-xr-x", which seems right
[01:48] <lorenzod> It won't auto-select the new theme you install.
[01:48] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: we are talking about icon themes, yes?
[01:48] <ubuntunewbie2> can you have ubuntu as a thin client and windows Xp as a server ?
[01:48] <kbrooks> electron__: cp -R
[01:49] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: yes
[01:50] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: i cilcked download, and i had it save the bz2 file to my home directory, but when i go to home, it's not there!
[01:50] <avalost> bigfoot1: check home/user/Desktop
[01:50] <avalost> or /home/user/Downloads
[01:50] <avalost> the default dir is desktop
[01:50] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: yes check where the download went to.
[01:50] <nexus-> jo_e: hmm hmm, weird...
[01:51] <nexus-> jo_e: does which show that /usr/bin/gksu is being used?
[01:51] <jo_e> nexus-, it's only output is the path to the program.
[01:51] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: btw, can you confirm that you have a directory called ~/.icons
[01:52] <jo_e> its*
[01:52] <lorenzod> Because install should work,
[01:52] <lorenzod> but the directory needs to exist.
[01:53] <pef> hello
[01:53] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: I'm at the most UPpest directory (the one with bin, boot, cdrom, dev, etc home, ) and there's no .icons. I have already chosen to select hidden files/folders.
[01:53] <avalost> bigfoot1: you're in the wrong dir
[01:53] <bigfoot1> avalost: oh.
[01:53] <avalost> that's the root dir
[01:54] <bigfoot1> avalost: what does the tilde mean?
[01:54] <avalost> you shouldn't install there, should be in your /home/user dir
[01:54] <bigfoot1> ~
[01:54] <bigfoot1> ?
[01:54] <avalost> ~ indicates home
[01:54] <avalost> usually
[01:54] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: I just confirmed, install does work with icon themes.
[01:54] <bigfoot1> oh, i see .icons now
[01:55] <avalost> yes, I have had no probs with icons:
[01:55] <lorenzod> And do you have anyting in $HOME/.icons?
[01:55] <avalost> http://gawth.org/screens/blue.jpg
[01:55] <avalost> http://gawth.org/screens/blue2.jpg
[01:55] <avalost> http://gawth.org/screens/blue3.jpg
[01:55] <avalost> etc..
[01:55] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: i have the tux n Tosh folder
[01:55] <avalost> yeah, ls .icons/
[01:55] <avalost> bigfoot1: then it's installed
[01:55] <avalost> you need to go to theme editor and select the theme
[01:56] <bigfoot1> avalost: i see.
[01:56] <avalost> if in gnome: system > preferences > theme
[01:56] <avalost> once in theme go:
[01:56] <Hoxzer> somebody here has used gmailFS?
[01:57] <avalost> "theme details"
[01:57] <avalost> then you'll see an icon tab
[01:57] <nexus-> jo_e: hmmm no idea then :(
[01:57] <bigfoot1> avalente: lorenzod: do themes in gnome usually come as a set? I mean, let's say a TuxnTosh icons AND application AND window border AND splash screen AND login ?
[01:58] <avalost> bigfoot1: sometimes but not usually
[01:58] <bigfoot1> avalost: i see it!
[01:58] <avalost> normally you find the metacity/gtk2/icons you like and put them together
[01:58] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: some do, in a way.
[01:58] <iiiears> Good Morning :)
[01:59] <lorenzod> like clearlooks provides window decorations and gtk theme
[01:59] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: is gnome art application automatically updated?
[01:59] <avalost> www.gnome-look.org is a good place to get metacity / gtk / icon themes
[01:59] <avalost> also gdm themes and stuff
[01:59] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: no
[01:59] <avalost> pointers even
[01:59] <bigfoot1> avalost: what about gnome art program?
[01:59] <iiiears> !mp3
[01:59] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:59] <avalost> i never fiddle with gnome art, so I can't tell you
[02:00] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: so how do i get to "refresh" or "reload" gnome art, if you know what i mean?
[02:00] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: Gnome art currently only connects to art.gnome.org
[02:00] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: when you select something, it will begin downloading.
[02:00] <lorenzod> I mean updating.
[02:00] <lorenzod> In that way it is automatic.
[02:01] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: but what if someone at this moment adds their files to art.gnome.org? Will I instantly see it in gnome art program?
[02:01] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: so you mean the "download" button is useless?
[02:01] <sigwada> elow
[02:01] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: no I'm just expressing myself very poorly
[02:02] <lorenzod> I mean, any time you select a category, it will download a list of all items in the category.
[02:02] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: and that list will be the most current one?
[02:02] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: yes.
[02:02] <sigwada> how could i get bittorrent in my ubuntu coz its not available at application>internet ?
[02:02] <bigfoot1> avalost: so is gnome-look.org something like art.gnome.org?
[02:03] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: what does file/delete_cached_files do?
[02:03] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: gnome-look.org is similar in purpose to art.gnome.org
[02:04] <avalost> bigfoot1: yes, only larger
[02:04] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: so i guess it's not good to just use gnome_art program, because we may be missing out on other nice stuff found only at gnome-look.org
[02:04] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: I guess it deletes the .tar.bz2 archives
[02:04] <pcgenie> i did'nt know there were so many ubuntu-users
[02:04] <bigfoot1> pcgenie: there are more
[02:04] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: after the themes have been installed
[02:05] <electron__> Hey I am using the Ubuntu PPC Live CD but it can't access the net
[02:05] <bigfoot1> electron__: sudo pppoeconf
[02:05] <electron__> all the settings are correct, ifconfig, resolve.conf ect
[02:05] <electron__> It's on a network
[02:05] <electron__> It can ping and ssh
[02:05] <electron__> but just not internet
[02:06] <lorenzod> electron__, how do you access the Internet?
[02:06] <pcgenie> /j #ubuntu-dk
[02:06] <pcgenie> sorry
[02:06] <electron__> I have a gateway box with 56k modem sharing the internet
[02:06] <electron__> with Firewalk and ipmasq
[02:06] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: i would think that gnome-art would be smart enough to get rid of the bz2 files. Why isn't it automatic? And when should I use that feature+?
[02:06] <electron__> This box is on the network too
[02:06] <electron__> it works here
[02:06] <sigwada> anyone can teach me how to get a bittorent client? coz i dont have one.
[02:06] <electron__> but not on my laptop
[02:07] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: current Gnome Art is 0.2
[02:07] <electron__> sigwada, there should be one in gnome, internet
[02:07] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: but you're right it should be able to remove the .bz2 files automatically.
[02:07] <electron__> sigwada, GNOME BitTorrent
[02:08] <lorenzod> Then again, some people may want to keep the original archives as well.
[02:08] <sigwada> what is the commamnd line to get a gnome bittorrent?
[02:08] <majkel>  is there a tool for linux to convert mdf dvd images to iso ?????
[02:08] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: so when should i do "delete cached files"? for which of the categories?
[02:08] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: I think it deletes for all categories...
[02:09] <electron__> lorenzod, so...
[02:10] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: okay. Looks like fun with gnome_art. thanks for your time on opera and this.
[02:10] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: don't mention it..
[02:11] <lorenzod> electron__: what does route say?
[02:11] <chrissturm> what gstreamer version will dapper contain?
[02:12] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: um, i'm trying out LoginManagerThemes. I downloaded a theme. How do i use it?
[02:12] <Antioch> how does one "uninstall" prelinking?
[02:12] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: you need to open the login screen setup
[02:13] <pinucset> when openoffice2 will be released how can i update my openoffice2 beta of my ubuntu? Via apt-get update and upgrade will my oo2 beta be upgraded to oo2 stable release?
[02:13] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: ok. found it
[02:13] <lorenzod> Under system->administration.
[02:13] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: there should be a "install new theme" button somewhere
[02:14] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: oh, i see it!
[02:14] <electron__> lorenzod, 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
[02:14] <augustin> hello
[02:14] <electron__> lorenzod, default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
[02:14] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: after i install it, can i delete the downloaded file?
[02:14] <electron__> thats it
[02:15] <lorenzod> electron__, and what's the IP of your gateway box?
[02:15] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: yes you can.
[02:16] <electron__> 192.168.0.1
[02:16] <electron__> so it should work
[02:16] <electron__> and the dns settings are correct too
[02:16] <sigwada> is it ok to download gnome-btdownload on ubuntu site?
[02:16] <lorenzod> electron__: yes it should
[02:16] <SpiderMan> Sorry can anyone tell me where to find the config file for xterm, looking to change the colours
[02:16] <electron__> is it a live cd thing?
[02:16] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: in gnome_art, the description_text of the stuff are cut event though the window is much bigger.
[02:16] <lorenzod> electron__: I've never used a PPC live CD, but the x86 ones work fine.
[02:17] <yannux> mwe, ping :)
[02:17] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: I guess it's clipping the string for the default window size.
[02:18] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: what do you mean? doesn't the full text get downloaded?
[02:18] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: It might get downloaded, but maybe the program then clips it.
[02:18] <lorenzod> I'll have to look at the sources to know.
[02:19] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: i think it's not a good idea for the program to clip it, if it indeed clips it.
[02:19] <Guest354> hi
[02:19] <augustin> i have trouble installing my wi-fi card, following the ubuntu HowTo and various things on the web... when i do "modprobe ndiswrapper", it hangs, and none of the solutions proposed online helped =/
[02:19] <cheemp> try to fit windows vista on a livecd.... haha
[02:19] <cheemp> barely fits on the install dvd
[02:19] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: I'm really not sure why the programmer chose to do it that way..
[02:20] <whk> 111
[02:20] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: maybe we can ask him to change it
[02:20] <cheemp> certainly can't fit windows vista and office 12 on 1 dvd
[02:20] <_dancer> ahm sorry. What is the German UBUNTU channel?
[02:20] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: actually, gnome art is written in the wonderful Ruby language.
[02:20] <lorenzod> Might toy around with it myself..
[02:20] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: i see.
[02:20] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: ruby seems to be the language of today
[02:21] <cheemp> i have yet to use ruby and python
[02:21] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: though i  can't speak it.
[02:21] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: ruby is definitely a nice language..
[02:21] <lorenzod> but "language of the day"?
[02:22] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: but suggesting your ideas to the author is always a good thing.
[02:22] <cheemp> Perl 6 is language of the day
[02:22] <bigfoot1> lorenzod:"language of today" just means that it seems to be what blogs and websites are talking about these days
[02:23] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: it's true. there's alot of talk about ruby and python these days
[02:23] <cheemp> until perl 6 comes out and rocks em
[02:23] <lorenzod> I personally prefer ruby, but that doesn't mean I dislike python.
[02:23] <bigfoot1> may the best language win!
[02:23] <cheemp> then all the oter languages will convert to run on parrot as well
[02:23] <iiiears> is there a handy command to restart the mouse? - using a kvm to switch between machines makes it jittery.
[02:23] <lorenzod> Or.. may freedom reign!
[02:24] <cheemp> then it will be parrot vs .net with mono stuck in between... prolly as crosscompiler hehe
[02:24] <lorenzod> cheemp: I'd like a version of .net that runs in parrot..
[02:25] <cheemp> mono will win, and novell will take over the world, and we'll all miss how nice billy really was
[02:25] <PalleLap> How to get transperant menu bar in gnome?
[02:25] <cheemp> in G2.12 transparent menu is fuxored
[02:25] <avalost> PalleLap: right click on it and adjust it's properties
[02:25] <augustin> i have trouble installing my wi-fi card, following the ubuntu HowTo and various things on the web... when i do "modprobe ndiswrapper", it hangs, and none of the solutions proposed online helped =/
[02:25] <sigwada> pls help i dont have any bittorent client.
[02:25] <cheemp> the unselected windows have no BG.. can't read text on a dark desktop image
[02:25] <iiiears> cheemp - did they fix the memory leak? in g2
[02:26] <augustin> the card is a DWL-G510 (rev C1)
[02:26] <cheemp> some of em :)
[02:26] <iiiears> hehe
[02:26] <sigwada> how could i get one?
[02:27] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: : i just downloaded a gtk engine theme. how to install please?
[02:27] <YukiIkyuta> sigwada' try googling "bittornado"
[02:28] <YukiIkyuta> augustin, which card?
[02:28] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: which engine? Are you sure it's not in the repos?
[02:28] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: i got the engine through gnome_art.
[02:28] <avalost> bigfoot1: if you open theme click install new theme, browse for its tar.gz and click install
[02:28] <augustin> YukiIkyuta, D-Link DWL-G510 (rev C1)
[02:29] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: I've never downloaded an engine from there.
[02:29] <YukiIkyuta> Hmm..
[02:29] <iiiears> bigfoot1, - use the themes tool in system preferences. - some themes aren't packaged correctly and won't install
[02:29] <avalost> that goes for generally any theme you want to install
[02:29] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: i see.
[02:29] <lorenzod> But I guess you've got a source package for a theme engine.
[02:29] <YukiIkyuta> OK.
[02:30] <iiiears> bigfoot1, - you can make them work though it isn't drag and drop. place them in the right directory.
[02:30] <YukiIkyuta> augustin, try the Madwifi driver.
[02:30] <bigfoot1> iiiears: you're talking about gnome_art and gtk engine themes, right?
[02:30] <YukiIkyuta> http://madwifi.otaku42.de/
[02:30] <iiiears> erm - yes.
[02:30] <augustin> YukiIkyuta, it explicitely states that rev C doesn't work =(
[02:30] <lorenzod> Hm. I just tried installing a theme engine, and it blew Gnome Art..
[02:30] <YukiIkyuta> Ah.
[02:30] <YukiIkyuta> ><
[02:30] <iiiears> are you using fce4?
[02:30] <YukiIkyuta> Sorry.
[02:30] <lorenzod> Not very nice to die on me like that!
[02:31] <bigfoot1> iiiears: are you talking to me?
[02:31] <iiiears> lol nvm - i need some coffee.
[02:31] <YukiIkyuta> There certainly seems to be less support for C ...
[02:31] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: maybe i should stay away from installing theme engines for now.
[02:31] <augustin> YukiIkyuta, yes =((
[02:32] <onkarshinde> If I search something in hoary-backports at packages.ubuntu.com then it shows me breezy results. Anyone know why?
[02:32] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: if it's the source for a theme engine, you'll have to compile it.
[02:32] <lorenzod> It's up to you if you feel up for it.
[02:32] <electron__> has anyone used a Sony Eyetoy as a webcam on Ubuntu?
[02:33] <YukiIkyuta> And linux-wlan certainly seems to exclude it.
[02:33] <electron__> It picks it up in hardware settings
[02:33] <electron__> but how can I view it
[02:33] <ian_> Hi - I've just tested the new Apple II keyboard with ubuntu and it works great, although some of the buttons dont work as they are specific to the Apple OS. Is there anyway I can reasign these buttons in ubuntu?
[02:33] <lawrence> did you have to change the plug so it will plug into your computer, ian?
[02:33] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: the package i got thru gnome_art had an "install" file within.
[02:34] <ian_> lawrence Not its a straight forward usb connection
[02:34] <ian_> lawrence "no"
[02:34] <YukiIkyuta> Brb...
[02:34] <lawrence> Imma get my own :D
[02:34] <iiiears> lawrence - what is that plug standard interface for apple called?
[02:35] <ian_> lawrence firewire?
[02:35] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: which theme engine did you download?
[02:35] <lawrence> haha.. well I thought they had their own plug..
[02:35] <lawrence> but I believe it's based on USB
[02:35] <YukiIkyuta> Back.
[02:36] <electron__> lawrence, it's just usb and firewire
[02:36] <lawrence> sweet.. I have both of them :D
[02:36] <sigwada> why is it i always encounter errors when installing bittorrent client like bittornado and bittorrent?
[02:36] <ubuntunewbie2> How do you remove applications in ubuntu to make it "thinner" ?
[02:36] <ubuntunewbie2> Kind of like and add/remove program
[02:37] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: gtk smooth engine
[02:37] <Bergcube> sigwada~  A Sillywood (Silicon Walley + Hollywood) conspiracy?
[02:37] <Ng> ubuntunewbie2: there's synaptic in System->Administration
[02:37] <iiiears> In the older apple i was given it is shaped differently than ps/2 - The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from - Pogo.
[02:37] <lawrence> System > Administration > Synaptic  I believe
[02:37] <lawrence> ahh.
[02:37] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: I'm not sure, but isn't smooth in the Ubuntu repos?
[02:37] <Ng> ubuntunewbie2: it will tell you what is going to be removed, so you can check that it doesn't remove anything you want
[02:37] <sigwada> what do you mean?
[02:37] <Ng> ubuntunewbie2: but do be careful :)
[02:38] <lawrence> haha!! here's a question how do you install Java?
[02:38] <nightswim> !java
[02:38] <ubotu> [java]  to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[02:38] <augustin> YukiIkyuta when using ndiswrapper -l or the ndisgtk utility, it shows that my driver is loaded and the hardware is present, but still the card doesn't appear in the Networking utility of GNOME, and "iwconfig" returns only lo, sit0 and eth0 (which is my wired network card, disabled atm), none with "wireless extension"
[02:38] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: sorry i didn't check.
[02:38] <Bergcube> sigwada~  Nothing.  Simply making a lame joke, based on how all the big media-mongers want to force DRM on everything...
[02:39] <bigfoot1> lorenzod: would it be better to get it from repos?
[02:39] <lorenzod> bigfoot1: I'd check there first.
[02:39] <bigfoot1> ok
[02:39] <lawrence> who here's actually got java working in Linux?
[02:39] <rpintzke> hi
[02:39] <lorenzod> lawrence: I do.
[02:39] <lorenzod> 1. install java-package
[02:39] <onkarshinde> ubuntunewbie2: Do you mean you want to make it fast?
[02:39] <lorenzod> 2. download jdk from sun (.bin version)
[02:39] <sigwada> pls help, its my five days here in ubuntu but even now i cant still install a bittorrent client. asking for your assistance. tnx
[02:39] <aftertaf> sigwada:  open synaptic and search for 'torrent'
[02:40] <PalleLap> avalost, thanks :))
[02:40] <lorenzod> 3. do the make-jpkg dance
[02:40] <pou52> hi.. I wanted to update and got this messafe-->Unable to get exclusive lock
[02:40] <pou52> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first
[02:40] <Bergcube> sigwada~  Ubuntu does come with Gnome Bittorrent default.   It works like a charm for me.  Why not use that?
[02:40] <pou52> how do I close whatever was started?
[02:40] <aftertaf> pou52:  synaptic open?   a console running apt somewhere?
[02:40] <lawrence> Hmm.. I think I'll install Java now :D
[02:41] <onkarshinde> sigwada: which version of ubuntu?
[02:41] <lawrence> lorenzod, thanks
[02:41] <pou52> aftertaf.. I really dont know
[02:41] <sigwada> but i dont see any bittorrent here, others tell me that it is located at aplication>intenet, but i dont see any bittorent.
[02:41] <lorenzod> lawrence, np
[02:42] <onkarshinde> sigwada: It is not possible. It is installed by default.
[02:42] <aftertaf> pou52:  have you been doing anything apt-related in console or anything?
[02:42] <ian_> Anybody know how to change the default keyboard mappings in ubuntu?
[02:42] <YukiIkyuta> ian_, yes!
[02:42] <lorenzod> Bergcube: I'm a private dancer, a dancer for money..
[02:42] <YukiIkyuta> Which sort of mappings?
[02:42] <YukiIkyuta> As in, layout?
[02:42] <sigwada> how could i know the version of my ubuntu?
[02:42] <pou52> 2 days ago I started the update and I think I close by restarting computer. maybe something got corrupted?
[02:43] <YukiIkyuta> sigwada,  says at a console.
[02:43] <ian_> YukiIkyuta As in Im using the new Applie keyboard...
[02:43] <onkarshinde> sigwada: There is something called About Ubuntu in of the three menus.
[02:43] <ian_> which has buttons that are specific to Apple OS...
[02:43] <YukiIkyuta> sigwada, cat /etc/issue.net should tell you.
[02:44] <augustin> now when i "modprobe ndiswrapper" it says "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"
[02:44] <augustin> boohoohoo
[02:44] <YukiIkyuta> augustin, are you as root?
[02:44] <YukiIkyuta> ian_, ah ...
[02:44] <YukiIkyuta> It depends how the keyboard sends the signals, really. You may need a custom kernel driver to read them, if it's via USB or whatnot.
[02:44] <YukiIkyuta> Try googling?
[02:44] <augustin> YukiIkyuta, that's right... it is when i do it as root that it freezes
[02:45] <YukiIkyuta> augustin, the ndiswrapper driver is said to do that with your card.
[02:45] <YukiIkyuta> So I would assume it's not a good idea.
[02:45] <SpiderMan> Can anybody help me edit my sources.list, I have a local repository I would like to use, but its format is different to ubuntu's main repo's
[02:45] <sigwada> i got this ubuntu 4.10
[02:45] <ian_> YukiIkyuta Havent googled it yet, will take a peak thanks anyway.
[02:45] <augustin> YukiIkyuta, damn, i didn't read that...
[02:45] <ams_> When you partition your drive, what should I choose for linux files system and swap (beginning or end of drive)
[02:45] <YukiIkyuta> ian_, okay, good luck!
[02:46] <ams_> its a duel boot system if that matters
[02:46] <augustin> YukiIkyuta, must have missed it, that's what happen when you spend 4 hours straight going from site to site trying to find a solution =(
[02:46] <YukiIkyuta> augustin, aah, I see ><
[02:46] <sigwada> it means that it doesnt have a pre-installed bittorrent in my ubuntu 4.10?
[02:46] <YukiIkyuta> sigwada, right; but you can install it with synaptic, probably.
[02:46] <augustin> ok, so, simply put, i should phone my store and tell them i want the card changed, right ?
[02:46] <YukiIkyuta> 4.10 is pretty old ..
[02:46] <YukiIkyuta> augustin, if it's possible, that would be ideal!
[02:47] <augustin> i'll phone them
[02:47] <YukiIkyuta> Better yet; if you locate one on Ubuntu's driver list, tell them that you have a preferred one.
[02:47] <YukiIkyuta> Or if you get them to list what they have in stock, and see if any are definitely supported.
[02:47] <sigwada> pls help, what will i do with synaptic in order to get bittorrent? is there any command line to type?
[02:47] <basti__> Which is the easiest way to get sound in flash ?
[02:48] <cheemp> how do i aptitude install MYSQL 4.1 instead of MYSQL 4.0 ?
[02:48] <claes> sigwada, sudo aptitude install bittornado
[02:48] <YukiIkyuta> sigwada, synaptic is a graphical tool to install software. It should be System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[02:48] <Bergcube> sigwada~  Search in Synaptic.
[02:48] <cheemp> sigwada: there's a couple clients in syn or aptitude
[02:50] <YukiIkyuta> augustin, try this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:51] <iiiears> !flash
[02:51] <ubotu> I heard flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:51] <iiiears> oh well
[02:52] <augustin> ok, they were not too thrilled by the idea at first, but my unearthly rhetoric seems to have convinced them =D
[02:52] <YukiIkyuta> Nice!
[02:52] <augustin> now i have to check which card will work because they will certainly not accept it a second time =D
[02:52] <YukiIkyuta> Hah, good idea. ^^
[02:52] <augustin> one thing that might be problematic, though, is that i actually couldn't know it was rev C BEFORE opening the package
[02:52] <augustin> since it was only wirtten on a small leaflet
[02:53] <YukiIkyuta> Aah.
[02:53] <YukiIkyuta> Well.
[02:53] <YukiIkyuta> The DWL-G510 is not listed at all on the page above.
[02:53] <YukiIkyuta> So I suppose if it is to begin with, that's a good sign.
[02:53] <cheemp> does anyone know how to aptitude install MYSQL 4.1 instead of MYSQL 4.0 ? package name?
[02:53] <SpiderMan> Can anybody help me edit my sources.list, I have a local repository I would like to use, but its format is different to ubuntu's main repo's
[02:54] <spindel> cheemp: apt-get install mysql-4.1
[02:54] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, how is it different?
[02:54] <augustin> the thing is, the G510 is supposed to be supported when it's rev A and B? but of course, not rev C =D
[02:54] <YukiIkyuta> Aah, by ndiswrapper?
[02:54] <ubuntunewbie2> Ng: I don't get it. I mark those that I want to remove, bu twhen I move to other packages it also marks them. I'm a confused. Is synaptic something like in windows where you can add/remove programs and the only components removed are those you want removed ? how come ubuntu checks components of other packages as well ?
[02:54] <augustin> YukiIkyuta, yeah, but ideally i would love to use a linux driver instead of ndiswrapper
[02:54] <YukiIkyuta> I suppose there's just no support tested in Ubuntu.
[02:54] <YukiIkyuta> Of course.
[02:54] <spindel> cheemp: apt-get install mysql-server-4.1, even
[02:54] <cheemp> ahhh :)
[02:54] <augustin> where cna i find an up-to-date, reliable list ?
[02:55] <augustin> can*, damn i can't type
[02:55] <YukiIkyuta> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:55] <cheemp> i did an aptitude search and didn't see it.. must be lack of coffee
[02:55] <Ng> ubuntunewbie2: synaptic uses dependencies. If you remove a library that something else needs, it will remove that something else too
[02:55] <YukiIkyuta> This should do. ^^
[02:55] <ams_> what is good cdburning software??
[02:55] <augustin> simplest things... ^^
[02:55] <iiiears> spindel - you one of the "LAMP" project packages may be woth a look. Linux Apache
[02:55] <iiiears> Musql PHP
[02:56] <SpiderMan> YukiIkyuta, Iam in South Africa, and I want to us IS's repository, but the file structure is different
[02:56] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, well, I mean, in what way is it different? If the package list is set out right as an APT repository, it should work fine as is!
[02:56] <TG__> http://img319.imageshack.us/my.php?image=schermafdruk8fs.png <-- could anyone tell me why the buttons won't spread out like they should?
[02:56] <cheemp> hmmm  Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open
[02:56] <Drew> Hi, I'm from AZ, but am in ATL - my system has restarted, and my system's set to autoboot ubuntu, but I need to access windows - They are on seperate partitions, same hard drive. How can I configure Ubuntu's bootloader to autoboot windows XP?
[02:57] <cheemp> but i don't have another apt or synaptic running
[02:57] <iiiears> !grub
[02:57] <ubotu> methinks grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:57] <spindel> TG__: check your minimal / maximal size
[02:57] <cheemp> so why would the file be locked :(
[02:57] <iiiears> those links helped me a bit
[02:57] <httpdss> cheemp: what does ps ax say ???
[02:58] <TG__> spindel: where?
[02:58] <httpdss> (paste bin)
[02:58] <Drew> Alright, and is Ubuntu pronounced ooh-boon-too?
[02:58] <spindel> Preferences on the panel
[02:58] <spindel> in the window list thingy
[02:58] <augustin> YukiIkyuta, how do i know which one to take when, for one given name/manufacturer, many chipsets exist who don't have the same results ? =(
[02:58] <YukiIkyuta> Drew, I've always done it "uuh" (as in you), "bun" (as in, a bun, or a roll of bread), "too" (me too!)
[02:59] <SpiderMan> YukiIkyuta go to ftp://ftp.is.co.za you will see the link to the ubuntu folder, but its not the same directory structure
[02:59] <YukiIkyuta> augustin, a good question.. ><
[02:59] <ams_> what is good cdburning software for ubuntu (linux noobie)
[02:59] <SpiderMan> YukiIkyuta can you give me the line that needs to go in
[02:59] <augustin> YukiIkyuta, (actually i think it's oo-boon-too =) )
[02:59] <TG__> spindel: min=100 max=4096 :/
[02:59] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, a moment.
[02:59] <YukiIkyuta> augustin, thanks. ^^
[02:59] <cheemp> httpdss, alot of stuff but nothing about apt (i | grep apt'd)
[03:00] <shadeofgrey> ams_:  K3B is my favorite
[03:00] <ubuntunewbie2> Ng: Ok so are you saying that I can't remove stuff ?
[03:00] <ams_> thank you shadeofgrey
[03:00] <Drew> haha the ping on the system just dropped 20ms - I think my dad just booted it into windows :P
[03:00] <spindel> TG__: strange. set min to 0, and check if there are any other applets on your panel
[03:00] <YukiIkyuta> ubuntunewbie2, you have other software depending on what you want to removfe.
[03:00] <Ng> ubuntunewbie2: there will be quite a few things you can't remove, yes, but it all depends what you want installed really
[03:00] <shadeofgrey> ams_:  your very welcome
[03:00] <iiiears> ams_, - ubuntu will burn most things with a simple right click gnomebaker or for even mre control k3b are popular.
[03:01] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, that doesn't look like an APT-compatible repository.
[03:01] <TG__> spindel: i haven't touched the bottom bar yet, it's like it came when i installed ubuntu
[03:01] <YukiIkyuta> I'll keep looking.
[03:01] <ams_> ok thank you iiiears
[03:01] <YukiIkyuta> Oh wait.
[03:01] <YukiIkyuta> OK.
[03:01] <YukiIkyuta> That looks OK.
[03:01] <YukiIkyuta> Hang on!
[03:01] <httpdss> cheemp: and the background updates ??
[03:01] <cheemp> faaak idiot..
[03:01] <YukiIkyuta> Try this:
[03:01] <cheemp> httpd: wasn't su'd :(
[03:01] <iiiears> ouch
[03:01] <ubuntunewbie2> Ng: My objective really is to make ubuntu lighter, by removing things I don't use like games, programming stuff (Python) etc. How do i know that a file connected to it is necessary or not ?
[03:02] <httpdss> cheemp: :-S .. good place to start :P
[03:02] <cheemp> much happy now
[03:02] <Toma-> ubuntunewbie2: apt-get will scream about important files if you get id of em... iirc
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> deb ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/ubuntu breezy breezy-updates breezy-security
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> Or whatever ones you want.
[03:02] <augustin> YukiIkyuta, i must go, thanks for your help, very nice =)
[03:03] <cheemp> and downloading at 500k from ubuntu apt repo always make me happy
[03:03] <SpiderMan> ok i will give it a try thanks YukiIkyuta
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, good luck!
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> augustin, good luck!
[03:03] <augustin> cheers =)
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> ^_^
[03:03] <cheemp> linux + 6mbps cable rocks
[03:03] <ubuntunewbie2> cause in windows you click remove and if a program is dependent on a file that you are trying to remove it just says "Remove, remove none, or remove all" usually I click on "remove none" - 99 % of the time because just to be safe. I presume ubuntu does the same am I correct ?
[03:03] <Ng> ubuntunewbie2: well experience would go a long way. why are you trying to make it smaller? the default install is hardly huge
[03:04] <kemik> cheemp:  10mbps ethernet more roxxxors
[03:04] <kemik> ;)
[03:04] <iiiears> cable is it. - linux without a fast connection is no fun at all.
[03:04] <ubuntunewbie2> Ng; Because I am running it on 300 mhz at 64 mb of RAM I want to make it thinner, lighter and faster
[03:04] <Juhaz> ubuntunewbie2, you presume wrong
[03:04] <ubuntunewbie2> Juhaz: So how do I go about it ?
[03:04] <Toma-> ubuntunewbie2: i suggest slackware...
[03:04] <Juhaz> ubuntunewbie2, linux package managers work on application level, not file. you can't remove something and leave parts of it behind
[03:04] <Ng> ubuntunewbie2: you'd be better off not running gnome
[03:05] <Ng> ubuntunewbie2: or an older distribution
[03:05] <YukiIkyuta> ubuntunewbie2, it will only tell you that it WILL have to remove it if you do actually *need* to. in Windows' case, it's not even sure.
[03:05] <Toma-> ubuntunewbie2: also, you might want something with a 2.4 kernel
[03:05] <ubuntunewbie2> I searched for lighter linuxes like Beatrix and puppy but they run well on live CD. I have trouble installing them to the hard disk
[03:05] <kemik> ubuntunewbie2:  server-installation of ubuntu, and use icewm of xfce ... or else use DSL, gentoo or vector linux (vector is a slackware derivate)
[03:06] <iiiears> ubuntunebie - you may want to try ubuntulite or even  GASP!  puppylinux - 300mhz will work fine with some very light window managers.
[03:06] <ubuntunewbie2> Ng: Ubuntu installs fine and runs fine in the computer it's just that it's slow not really to slow. but well slow in a sense
[03:06] <kemik> ubuntunewbie2:  check out vector linux... www.madpenguin had some rave reviews on that distro for 'older computers'
[03:06] <ubuntunewbie2> iiiears: I burned puppy linux but it freezes it says : kernel panic blah blah blah  . . . ..  that's where it stops
[03:07] <YukiIkyuta> !
[03:07] <ubotu> YukiIkyuta: What?
[03:07] <Ng> ubuntunewbie2: that has nothing to do with how many programs you have installed, it has to do with how many you have running
[03:07] <YukiIkyuta> Oops.
[03:07] <Ng> ubuntunewbie2: gnome (the default desktop in ubuntu) is not designed to work with that little RAM unfortunately
[03:07] <iiiears> aw, sorry to hear that. - not likely to get things working but satisfy your curiosity. try strace to see what is happening.
[03:08] <SpiderMan> YukiIkyuta I put what you said in the sources.list
[03:08] <SpiderMan> cant find the files
[03:08] <YukiIkyuta> Okay?
[03:08] <ubuntunewbie2> oh ok so linux is sooooooo unlike windows. Pls be patient I really am new to this linux thing
[03:08] <YukiIkyuta> Oh!
[03:08] <aftertaf> ubuntunewbie2:  and try to get more ram!
[03:08] <ubuntunewbie2> Ok let me see
[03:08] <YukiIkyuta> What in particular did it say?
[03:08] <aftertaf> lol YukiIkyuta
[03:09] <aftertaf> *erf , read "what in particular did I say ?" :)
[03:09] <YukiIkyuta> Aaah. XD
[03:09] <YukiIkyuta> ''] 
[03:09] <ubuntunewbie2> aftertaf: That's the hardware part. everybody knows getting more ram will make stuff run effeciently
[03:09] <YukiIkyuta> Oops.
[03:09] <ubuntunewbie2> more effeciently rather
[03:09] <SpiderMan> Get:39 ftp://ftp.is.co.za breezy-security/universe Sources
[03:09] <SpiderMan> Err ftp://ftp.is.co.za breezy-security/universe Sources
[03:09] <SpiderMan>   Unable to fetch file, server said $(B!F(BFailed to open file.  $(B!G(B
[03:09] <ubuntunewbie2> What I am interested is tweaking the thing to make it a bit faster
[03:09] <P3L|C4N0> ubuntunewbie2, http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html
[03:09] <YukiIkyuta> Hm..
[03:10] <YukiIkyuta> That's odd ....
[03:10] <iiiears> ubuntunewbie2 - a lot of new linux community members here. with a little patience you'll be a pro in no time.
[03:10] <SpiderMan> for some reason, the apt is not picking up anything after ftp://ftp.is.co.za
[03:10] <aftertaf> ubuntunewbie2:  bt more ram would help, if it is possible 64 aint a lot
[03:10] <athlon> anyone here using initng and managed to get ubuntu up and running without problem ?
[03:10] <Drew> and by a little he means a lot.
[03:10] <SpiderMan> anything after the "/"
[03:10] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, that's just how it formats the message!
[03:11] <dbug> how can i view on terminal the charset list
[03:12] <SpiderMan> oh ok
[03:12] <paulo> what is the name of windows look like window manager for linux ??
[03:12] <iiiears> does the xorg.conf file contain the keyboard character set list?
[03:12] <nightswim> fvfwm
[03:12] <nightswim> fvwm
[03:12] <SpiderMan> can you put the address in your sources.list and see if you get the same problem ?
[03:13] <YukiIkyuta> Just a sec! ^^
[03:13] <ubuntunewbie2> Now tell me the following are stuff that could enhance windows performance, what is it's equivalent in linux and does it apply to linux ? : 1.) Run msconfig and unload uncessary start up items 2.) free space in C make more room for virtual ram 3.) correct errors in the disk and defrag often. 4.) Clean the registry by using 3rd party apps such as system mechanic. So tell me does these all have linux "equivalents" ?
[03:13] <Ng> only 1) is relevant
[03:13] <Ng> and there is very little you can remove anyway
[03:13] <electron__> hey
[03:13] <Ng> you need more RAM or a lighter desktop
[03:14] <electron__> how do I stop Gnome from auto loading on startup?
[03:14] <ompaul> 2 does not apply 3 does not apply 4 what is a registry
[03:14] <electron__> I just want to to go to the console login screen
[03:14] <iiiears> 1) the etc/init.d file i believe and 2) sysctl
[03:14] <defcon8> hello. i ran apt-setup to change the apt server it uses but it still continues to use the turkish ones which i think have a problem on as certain repos arent downloading properly. is there anything i can do about this?
[03:14] <ubuntunewbie2> Ng: ok ok so the answer is RAM
[03:14] <Juhaz> if you want to use gnome, yes
[03:14] <YukiIkyuta> electron__,
[03:14] <ubuntunewbie2> iiiears: ok thanks
[03:15] <paulo> what is the more adviced windows manager for slowly pcs ..
[03:15] <brenner> 3) ext3 doesn't require defragging iirc
[03:15] <aftertaf> ubuntunewbie2:  and read this link from ubotu........
[03:15] <aftertaf> !linuxnotwindows
[03:15] <ubotu> [linuxnotwindows]  http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[03:15] <Juhaz> icewm might be a reasonably simple and light alternative for someone used to windows
[03:15] <defcon8> hmm i think its working now
[03:15] <iiiears> not much need for defragmenting your disk in linux if you shutdown properly.
[03:15] <YukiIkyuta> remove it from /etc/rc*.d/Sgdm* or whatever...
[03:15] <defcon8> man can people forget windows if they want to use linux?
[03:15] <aftertaf> paulo:  not newbie friendly, but e17 is great
[03:15] <electron__> wtf?
[03:15] <defcon8> you do NOT use linux because you wish you could use windows do you?
[03:15] <ompaul> ubuntunewbie2, both of those impact what starts, but most of what starts you need
[03:15] <ubuntunewbie2> Ng: So only no.1 is relevant so how do you do an "msconfig" in linux and removing startup stuff you dnt need ?
[03:16] <paulo> aftertaf, :D
[03:16] <defcon8> aftertaf, i dont like the fact that e17 doesnt let you choose through maximised windows from a window bar
[03:16] <ompaul> ubuntunewbie2,  if I may suggest if you have the bandwidth install xubuntu-desktop
[03:16] <Ng> ubuntunewbie2: there is a directory of links (/etc/rc2.d/) that get called when the system boots, you can disable a few of them, but I don't think it'll help you
[03:16] <ubuntunewbie2> Another thing, one reason I wanted to remove application is that I don't want some of our employees playing games how do I do that ? (Or watching movies in their computer) I want them focused in their work
[03:16] <aftertaf> ubuntunewbie2:  you dont do an "msconfig"....    a car and a motorbike cant be compared
[03:16] <iiiears> I am very new also but i think most of it is in /etc/init.d
[03:16] <paulo> i want my mom use linux in my old pc, there is any window manager like windows?
[03:17] <ubuntunewbie2> ompaul: How do I install xubuntu desktop and what's so speical about it ?
[03:17] <athlon> ubuntunewbie2, you really dont want to do that until you learn more about how linux works
[03:17] <aftertaf> paulo:  kde/gnome . depends how old
[03:17] <johnm> paulo: yes, unfortunately. But I'd recommend somethign mor euser friendly like GNOME
[03:17] <athlon> after all you dont tell a windows newbie to change stuff in his registry
[03:17] <paulo> humm
[03:17] <ompaul> ubuntunewbie2,  it is much lighter than gnome that is all, if you have a low spec machine it will run on it more than likely
[03:17] <ubuntunewbie2> Ng: Ok let me see how how do I get to /etc/rc2/d does this have a "pop-up windows" just like msconfig
[03:17] <paulo> ok thx guys
[03:17] <paulo> gnome will be fine
[03:18] <sproingie> athlon: speak for yerself, i did it all the time.  though most of the time it's "i'm emailing you a .reg file, go ahead and doubleclick it"
[03:18] <defcon8> ubuntunewbie2, cmon man pay people to administrate computers
[03:18] <Ng> ubuntunewbie2: no, it's not a program, you will have to manipulate some files
[03:18] <aftertaf> ubuntunewbie2:  you cant compare what is sooo different. Stop thinking in terms of "windows", theis is a whole different system.
[03:18] <ubuntunewbie2> aftertaf: Well it's not I am not comparing. I know linux is more superior than windows however I need a point of reference.
[03:18] <ompaul> ubuntunewbie2, if you touch the wrong thing in there you will have a lot a of work or a broken machine
[03:18] <ubuntunewbie2> defcon8: I'm trying to learn
[03:18] <defcon8> ubuntunewbie2, why dont you read some documents then?
[03:18] <aftertaf> ubuntunewbie2:  i understand that need, but there isnt a point of reference that will help you, only ones that will hold you back. seriously.
[03:18] <YukiIkyuta> vvbbbbnnnnnnmmmmmmmmmm,,,,,............///////////////kkkkl
[03:19] <sproingie> ubuntunewbie2: man intro
[03:19] <YukiIkyuta> Oops!
[03:19] <ubuntunewbie2> defcon8: there's a plethora of documents. can your recommend anything good ? I mean straight to the point
[03:19] <ompaul> YukiIkyuta, ehh no, we don't want that today, move along there is nothing to see here :)
[03:19] <aftertaf> i klnow this sounds like linux hippy guru bull$h1t but i've only benn on here 2-3 months man....
[03:19] <sproingie> ubuntunewbie2: manpages are about as to the point as you can get
[03:19] <defcon8> ubuntunewbie2, read what you need
[03:19] <defcon8> read linux for dummies or something maybe
[03:19] <YukiIkyuta> '
[03:19] <defcon8> or advanced linux books
[03:19] <aftertaf> !tell ubuntunewbie2 about linuxnotwindows
[03:19] <defcon8> hello. i ran apt-setup to change the apt server it uses but it still continues to use the turkish ones which i think have a problem on as certain repos arent downloading properly. is there anything i can do about this?
[03:19] <iiiears> ubuntunewbie2, - it's is amazing when you stop to consider that there isn't a single thing you can't change. The limit is your knowledge and imagination.
[03:20] <sproingie> ubuntunewbie2: o'reilly has the linux system administrator's handbook, which is excellent
[03:20] <SpiderMan> YukiIkyuta any luck ?
[03:20] <aftertaf> ubuntunewbie2:  hang around here, and ask how things work...... dont ask does it work like in windows?  cos it doesnt.
[03:20] <YukiIkyuta> electron__, if you remove /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm ..
[03:20] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, not yet. It'???????
[03:20] <YukiIkyuta> It's a bit strane*!
[03:20] <sproingie> ubuntunewbie2: for general unix, you could try "unix system administration".  it's purple, has a silly cartoon on the cover
[03:20] <ubuntunewbie2> aftertag: I understand your concern but whether we like or not we learn by making reference to something we are already familiar with. No genius in here can ever claim that he assimilated everything directly to his brain without making a reference at something else he has already learned since he was a child
[03:20] <electron__> YukiIkyuta, remove the acutal whole file?
[03:21] <YukiIkyuta> It's just a link! Go for it.
[03:21] <Jowi> hello all
[03:21] <cheemp> ubuntunewbie2, there's no genius in here
[03:21] <sproingie> ubuntunewbie2: if you're looking for something more pithy, try "linux in a nutshell", which is a good reference, though you'll be reading a lot of manpages and howtos to fill in the detail
[03:21] <rain`> Anyone know of an ftp client that can do recursive chmod?
[03:21] <SpiderMan> thanks YukiIkyuta
[03:21] <Kode> hello, I got a question, say I install ubuntu x86, and I want to upgrade to the 64 bit, can I upgrade it without downloading the 64 bit version, or can't I upgrade at all?
[03:22] <sproingie> does the bot have any factoids like these book recommendations?
[03:22] <defcon8> ubuntunewbie2, i had used linux for 1 year before i even knew anything about irc. i just used google
[03:22] <YukiIkyuta> Okay..
[03:22] <ubuntunewbie2> aftertaf: Ok ok I understand so nobody wants to sa the "w" word or the "m" word ok I'll try to do my best not to mention those. But you'll have to admit it people. Some people like linux a lot, it's just that they need some similiarities to work with in order to switch from "w"
[03:22] <iiiears> cheemp - If i call you a genius will you give me a tip on how to restart my mouse after using a KVM switch to change back and forth between machines
[03:22] <athlon> ubuntunewbie2, problem is, trying to use windows as an analogue is more of a hindrance rather than helping you to understand nixes system better
[03:22] <YukiIkyuta> electron__, that should stop it from starting at boot again.
[03:22] <YukiIkyuta> You may also want to remove ...
[03:22] <cjhcjhcjh> Howdy. Is there an Xwindow ssh client?
[03:22] <mahangu> cjhcjhcjh, putty
[03:22] <sproingie> Kode: you cannot upgrade 32 bit to 64 bit, it's a different OS as far as apt is concerned
[03:22] <defcon8> cjhcjhcjh, ssh -X
[03:22] <mahangu> cjhcjhcjh, apt-get install putty
[03:22] <aftertaf> athlon:  exactly :)
[03:22] <YukiIkyuta> electron__,  /etc/rc0.d/K01gdm
[03:22] <electron__> YukiIkyuta, you sure it wont stuff things removeing the whole file?
[03:22] <cjhcjhcjh> mahangu,  tvm
[03:22] <YukiIkyuta> Certain.
[03:22] <YukiIkyuta> It's a symbolic link.
[03:23] <electron__> okay
[03:23] <mahangu> cjhcjhcjh, np
[03:23] <cheemp> iiiears, mouse? kvm? machine? switch? hmmmm... can eat?
[03:23] <YukiIkyuta> Removing that one there will stop it trying to shut down GDM on shut down (as presumably, it's not started!)
[03:23] <Kode> sproingie: thanks :)
[03:23] <YukiIkyuta> If you ever need to get into graphical mode, at a console,
[03:23] <YukiIkyuta> type startx
[03:23] <defcon8> cjhcjhcjh, omfg
[03:23] <defcon8> cjhcjhcjh, ssh
[03:23] <defcon8> ssh is the client
[03:23] <brenner> sproingie: try the books trigger maybe?
[03:23] <defcon8> why do you need an xwindows one?
[03:23] <ubuntunewbie2> athlon: What analogue should I use ? I can't help it, I woke up one day not knowing that my parents brought me a windows based computer. Darn I should have told them that they got linux instead. Anyway joking aside I promise not to say the "w" word or the "m" word.
[03:24] <YukiIkyuta> ubuntunewbie2, that rule there is not half bad! ^^
[03:24] <sproingie> Kode: i don't recommend using 64bit unless you have a specific need.  i am being constantly bitten by problems because of my choice
[03:24] <electron__> I have done 'apt-get install telnetd' so will it start the daemon on startup?
[03:24] <iiiears> erm - the dark secret of my latent computer addiction has slipped out i have three machines running and switching between them makes the mouse cursor in ubuntu start to jitter.
[03:24] <defcon8> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[03:24] <defcon8> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages)
[03:24] <defcon8> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_u
[03:24] <rain`> Anyone know of an ftp client that can do recursive chmod?
[03:24] <defcon8> wtf?
[03:24] <Toma-> flood thx
[03:25] <defcon8> umm
[03:25] <Kode> sproingie: How come?
[03:25] <defcon8> under 5 lines isnt flood
[03:25] <defcon8> please can anyone tell me why this is happening?
[03:25] <athlon> ubuntunewbie2, I am not saying that Windows or Microsoft is bad, they are good at what they do. I am saying that if learning a new OS is like learning a new languange. It has a very different grammar, vocabulary and so on. If you really want to learn then you have to -immerse- yourself in it
[03:25] <ubuntunewbie2> defcon8: Ok I understand It will take hard work thanks man
[03:25] <Jowi> electron__: it should. all services are listed in /etc/rc2.d.
[03:25] <YukiIkyuta> Hmm..
[03:25] <defcon8> damn how hard is it to get help
[03:25] <lyso> rain: try lftp
[03:25] <ubuntunewbie2> athlon: Ok I get you but when you want to learn german you relate german words with English words you don't just study german syntax immedietly
[03:26] <iiiears> cheemp - Do you know of a good site with a couple of fun follow step by step examples to learn C programming?
[03:26] <sproingie> Kode: it's perfectly solid, but some packages aren't there.  no flash, so you'll need 32 bit firefox.  lots of languages i experiment with like lisp and haskell only have 32 bit versions
[03:26] <electron__> its not in there
[03:26] <YukiIkyuta> defcon8, you have several lines the same in your sources.list
[03:26] <Jowi> electron__: rc2.d is used for a "normal" ubuntu startup. the programs you see in rc2.d is linked to the programs in /etc/init.d
[03:26] <syli725> hi, i enabled DMA on /dev/dvd maunally. that is fine. but after I mount a DVD. the DMA disabled automatically. then I have to enable it again. why is like this?
[03:26] <defcon8> ok
[03:26] <defcon8> how can i find the lines that are the same?
[03:26] <sproingie> Kode: anything using 3d accelleration will have to be 64 bit code since the 3d drivers are 64 bit, so that precludes most any game
[03:26] <athlon> ubuntunewbie2, but german and english is related, its like learning BSD after you understand Linux. Windows to English is like  Chinese / Japanese to English
[03:27] <electron__> whats atd?
[03:27] <electron__> it's not something telnet daemon is it?
[03:27] <defcon8> oh good idea
[03:27] <httpdss> syli725: see hdparm.conf
[03:27] <cheemp> iiiears: there should be plenty! start by reading about GCC to compile hello world... and from there you can look at other ppl' source.. chances are whatever you want to code, something else out there is similar.. so look at source and copy at first..
[03:27] <defcon8> athlon, sorry but im just going to say that is total bullshit
[03:27] <defcon8> after using freebsd for 2 years
[03:27] <defcon8> dont compare engish and german with linux and freebsd
[03:27] <YukiIkyuta> defcon8, you're wrong.
[03:27] <defcon8> its just a fwe different commands
[03:28] <syli725> httpdss, cheers. let me read it.
[03:28] <iiiears> cheemp - Ah Thanks! :)
[03:28] <YukiIkyuta> defcon8, what's the problem?
[03:28] <sproingie> Kode: basically, unless you have specifically 64-bit apps you need to run, i'd stick with the ia32 distributon
[03:28] <defcon8> and a few different configs
[03:28] <Jowi> electron__: for example "ls -la /etc/rc2.d/" will give you the services. you should see something similar to "S20telnetd" or something.
[03:28] <syli725> httpdss, btw, where is it? i don't want to find / ...
[03:28] <Kode> sproingie: Well the usual stuff then, languages and others that haven't made the 64 bit jump, but it's solid you say, hmmm, perhaps just do a dualboot
[03:28] <athlon> defcon8, english and german have their roots in latin *shrug*
[03:28] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, this really is quite peculiar.
[03:28] <cheemp> iiiears: i can just tell you, learn variables, if, for, loop, how to make functions, mem alloc, pointers, sockets, buffer overflows... and you should be good to start :)
[03:28] <Jowi> electron__: S = Start, K = Kill (or simply, do not start this service)
[03:28] <mustard5> german roots in latin?
[03:29] <SpiderMan> thats what I thought ?
[03:29] <mustard5> I wouldnt think so
[03:29] <sproingie> Kode: it's easy enough running 32 bit stuff in a chroot, but opengl is a lost cause, since the video driver is 64 bit
[03:29] <SpiderMan> and being local I can update at super speeds, now I have to wait for int. sites
[03:29] <httpdss> syli725: it the place you will say "i want my DMA activated for the DVD at boot"
[03:29] <ScatterBrain> How does one rename a printer?
[03:29] <YukiIkyuta> Aah.
[03:29] <YukiIkyuta> I think I have it.
[03:29] <cheemp> iiiears: do you know how to use VIM ?
[03:29] <YukiIkyuta> What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[03:30] <iiiears> Yes, - but i prefer a crayon. - lol
[03:30] <sproingie> athlon: german does not have roots in latin.  it IS a language root
[03:30] <avinoam> anyone know how to view .mp4 movies?
[03:30] <syli725> httpdss, thank you very much. is DMA acitvated for DVD at boot safe and good to do?
[03:30] <iiiears> VIM is painful to use
[03:30] <YukiIkyuta> sproingie, isn't it both?
[03:30] <ubuntunewbie2> ahthlon: Perhaps. But I think it's the same it's an OS. You can't help it most people use "W" rather than BSD. And we all agree "W" sucks but most of us new to linux can't help it but make "w" as reference. because there is no other way. (so what is nearer to linux than "w" that most people use ?)
[03:30] <electron__> no it's not there
[03:30] <syli725> httpdss, I am find / -name hdparm.conf now...
[03:30] <Jowi> avinoam: totem-xine does the job well. you need codecs
[03:30] <Jowi> !codecs
[03:30] <ubotu> [codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:30] <SpiderMan> 'm running`brezzy
[03:30] <cheemp> iiiears: yeah i know... until you took in all the pain, scarified, and become elite :)
[03:30] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, deb ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/ubuntu/archive/breezy main restricted universe
[03:30] <sproingie> YukiIkyuta: nope.  english is a germanic language, that's why it sounds similar.  it just imported a lot from french along the way
[03:31] <sproingie> YukiIkyuta: but it's why we put adjectives before the nouns instead of after
[03:31] <YukiIkyuta> sproingie, aah.. that would do it.
[03:31] <ubuntunewbie2> ok ok let's quit the language wars shall we
[03:31] <httpdss> syli725: its /etc/hdparm.conf
[03:31] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, for security updates, deb ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/ubuntu/archive/breezy-security main restricted universe
[03:31] <iiiears> cheemp - did you see that bit of java that made a worm released a couple of days ago. - amazing bit of coding. genius.
[03:32] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, for normal updates, deb ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/ubuntu/archive/breezy-updates main restricted universe
[03:32] <YukiIkyuta> And that should do it!
[03:32] <syli725> httpdss, sorry. i don't have that file??
[03:32] <cheemp> iiiears: no idea.... you have a url?
[03:32] <syli725> httpdss, is this weird ?
[03:32] <iiiears> digg.com
[03:32] <YukiIkyuta> Waait!
[03:32] <YukiIkyuta> Those are ..
[03:32] <Jowi> syli725: you need to install hdparm first of all if you don't have that file. (sudo apt-get install hdparm)
[03:33] <YukiIkyuta> Those should be ubuntu/archive/dists/breezy (forgot the dists/!)
[03:33] <avinoam> Jowi, is that good for breezy also?
[03:33] <athlon> ubuntunewbie2, I for one think it is much better to explain from the very beginning, tell em to learn the concept of abstraction layer, instead of saying "/dev/hda in linux, is similar to C: in Windows" which is a half truth at best
[03:33] <syli725> Jowi, i am pretty sure i have hdparm installed. because i use it to enable DMA by running -d 1
[03:33] <Jowi> avinoam: yep. i just upgraded to breezy yesterday.
[03:33] <SpiderMan> perfect thanks YukiIkyuta, live saver
[03:33] <Jowi> syli725: ahhhh
[03:33] <YukiIkyuta> I'm glad it works. You're welcome. ^^
[03:34] <funkyHat> how can i force ESD not to touch one of my soundcards?
[03:34] <avinoam> Jowi, by the way i'm on kubuntu- the same applies?
[03:34] <syli725> Jowi, httpdss, is DMA good to be enabled when mounting DVD?
[03:34] <httpdss> syli725:sound strange ... see if you didnt get any type-o errors ..
[03:34] <cheemp> iiiears: can't find yet.. i'll keep looking.. wanna see genius code :)
[03:34] <Jowi> syli725: hdparm.conf is very simple to set up. if you wish to enable dma for hdc for example: /dev/hdc { dma = on }
[03:34] <syli725> httpdss, sure, i didn't get typo errors. i just do <tan>
[03:34] <ubuntunewbie2> I read the Linux is not "w" article. It's nice but when people make reference to "w" they are not saying "w" is equal to linux because I agree they are not equal. But however when they make reference to so and so they only do so because they can't point to something nearer at all.
[03:35] <Jowi> avinoam: that i do not know
[03:35] <syli725> httpdss <tab>
[03:35] <avinoam> Jowi, you prefer gnome?
[03:35] <cheemp> last time i produced 'genius' code in an enterprise, the lead developer mnaged to get me fired...
[03:35] <syli725> Jowi, so i just create it by myself. is that ok?
[03:35] <ubuntunewbie2> (Like a caveman would presume that a rocket is a carrot flying in the air because all he sees that looks like a rocket is a carrot)
[03:35] <Jowi> avinoam: no, i'm not using gnome or kde :)
[03:35] <defcon8> cheemp, why?
[03:35] <Jowi> syli725: yes, that's fine
[03:35] <avinoam> Jowi, than what?
[03:36] <httpdss> syli725: its safe .. no prob to mount it with dma enabled
[03:36] <avinoam> what is w?
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> lol
[03:36] <ubuntunewbie2> ok ok I get it Linux > windows (not, is not equal to)
[03:36] <Jowi> avinoam: a not so known windowmanager called oroborus. I like my desktop light :)
[03:36] <ubuntunewbie2> sorry, for using the "w" word
[03:36] <sproingie> cheemp: "enterprise code" discourages creativity.  the framework comes first.  all must serve the framework.
[03:36] <sproingie> ubuntunewbie2: most of us are mature enough here to say windows and hear it without shrieking
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> pls think of those who will be maintaining the code after you :P
[03:37] <Paradoxx> hmm, any1 know any software i can use to connect to my machine remotely and get a GUI?
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> Paradoxx, i say rdesktop
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> vnc ?
[03:37] <defcon8> what was the directory to automatically load modules at boot tiem?
[03:37] <httpdss> syli725: try reinstalling hdparm bcuz hdparm.conf is included on the pkg
[03:37] <sproingie> ubuntunewbie2: just talking about windows qua windows or general "linux vs. xyz" whatever xyz is is just not really on topic here
[03:37] <Ng> Paradoxx: you want to control your ubuntu machine remotely?
[03:37] <YukiIkyuta> Paradoxx, VNC! Or XDMCP[sp?] ?
[03:37] <ubuntunewbie2> ok so let's get back to business shall we so are you people saying that I can't remove the games without gowing deep into the machine rather than just removing them in synaptic ?
[03:37] <avinoam> Jowi, if i was using the Breezy release candidate (beta), how do i upgrade to the stable version? dist-upgrade?
[03:37] <syli725> httpdss, Jowi, I put the line and created conf file by myself. but when I mount it, still off automatically. (i enabled it first)
[03:38] <Ng> Paradoxx: if so, set your remote desktop preferences in the System menu and use a VNC client to connect from another machine
[03:38] <ubuntunewbie2> sproingie: sorry can't resist promise won't talk about "w" anymore or comapring it with linux
[03:38] <sproingie> ubuntunewbie2: fine.  then stop talking about it obliquely too
[03:38] <theD3viL> Why firefox crashes (close) when i want to play online movie into it ?
[03:39] <cheemp> defcon8, because he was a lame coder, but not as lame as everyone else on the team, and my code really stood out, and he shit his pants during the first code review ;)
[03:39] <defcon8> lol
[03:39] <defcon8> lamer
[03:39] <Jowi> avinoam: yeah. change the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list to read breezy (see the upgrade topic for this channel) and do "sudo apt-get update" + "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". For the smoothest upgrade uninstall openoffice and install ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu-desktop if you prefer kde)
[03:39] <defcon8> what language?
[03:39] <cheemp> sproingie, that's why you want to be the framework architect :)
[03:39] <maurycy> hey. any ideas how to install rubygems on ubuntu?
[03:39] <ubuntunewbie2> ok so let's get back to business shall we so are you people saying that I can't remove the games without gowing deep into the machine rather than just removing them in synaptic ?
[03:39] <cheemp> defcon8, .NET, C#
[03:39] <ubuntunewbie2> sporingie: with all due respect I did not start it
[03:39] <avinoam> Jowi, I have breezy already- but i think they came out with the stable version, didn't they?
[03:39] <Ng> ubuntunewbie2: you can remove them in synaptic, but it will remove other things too. there is no way to avoid that even if you do it by hand.
[03:39] <sproingie> cheemp: or you pick a framework that doesn't require so much glue that it needs a team of coders to maintain
[03:39] <YukiIkyuta> ubuntunewbie2, it depends what it wants to drag down with it - what packages are you trying to remove?
[03:40] <ubuntunewbie2> Ng: Ok I got it
[03:40] <Ng> ubuntunewbie2: for the umpteenth time, removing games IS NOT going to make your computer faster
[03:40] <defcon8> cheemp, hmm. nice
[03:40] <defcon8> cheemp, im doing py atm
[03:40] <ubuntunewbie2> Ng: Ok just wanted to ask if can remove them
[03:40] <defcon8> dont really wanna use C# because there arent so many nice libs for it
[03:40] <Jowi> avinoam: oh, then it should be enough for you to do the dist-upgrade or a normal upgrade. (I say should since i upgraded directly from warty)
[03:40] <syli725> httpdss, Jowi, i will google it and try to find out why. Thank you very much. as long as DMA is safe. I am happy. :)
[03:41] <mythtv> how do I create new gnome user?
[03:41] <Jowi> syli725: no probs
[03:41] <srockett> Is there a way to make beep media player play m4a and wma files without compiling some obscure plugin?
[03:41] <Ng> mythtv: there's a Users and Groups Administration tool in the System menu
[03:41] <mythtv> s
[03:41] <LazyAngel> i'm getting this message when i try to install rar:
[03:41] <mythtv> s
[03:41] <LazyAngel> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[03:41] <LazyAngel> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[03:41] <avinoam> Jowi, what's the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:41] <cheemp> defcon8, the app was for microsoft... I basically started refactoring using enterprise architecture patterns such as factory, strategies, decorators... and coding with unit tests etc... and they are ignorant of proper arhitecture and testing techniques... so my 'maverick' style got me fired.. i was 'going against the team's flow'
[03:41] <httpdss> syli725: no prob .. try reinstalling before googleing
[03:41] <Jowi> avinoam: the two commands resolves conflicts differently
[03:41] <LazyAngel> why? And how do i install rar?
[03:41] <defcon8> wow cheemp.
[03:42] <Hoxzer_> how do I create new gnome user?
[03:42] <defcon8> and what was the reason they used for firing you and why didnt you sue them?
[03:42] <syli725> httpdss, thanks. :)
[03:42] <sproingie> defcon8: sue?  golly, on what grounds?
[03:42] <Ng> Hoxzer_: there's a Users and Groups Administration tool in the System menu
[03:42] <wickedpuppy> Hoxzer, system -> administration -> users and groups
[03:42] <defcon8> sproingie, for firing you for no reason
[03:42] <avinoam> Jowi, so which one do i wanna use?
[03:42] <defcon8> ok brb. gotta go to the pan
[03:42] <Jowi> Hoxzer: ? you create new users for the whole system. not only gnome. sudo users-admin
[03:42] <sproingie> defcon8: they did have a reason. poor teamwork.
[03:43] <defcon8> ok
[03:43] <Jowi> avinoam: either is safe for you.
[03:43] <sproingie> defcon8: if i had a developer that suddenly started rearchitecting everything, i'd throw him his own project and tell him to stay the hell off ours.  if i didn't have another project ...
[03:43] <LazyAngel> anyone?
[03:43] <YukiIkyuta> cheemp, in a situation like that, I guess you always have to do what the team says to do, no matter what.
[03:43] <ubuntunewbie2> ok so what If I do a fresh install  of ubuntu ? can I select which packages to install which packages I can't (Just like installing red hat) I went through the whole breezy installation but it just started throwing in packages
[03:44] <YukiIkyuta> Even if you are saving them. -_-
[03:44] <Ng> talk about jobs and code reviews belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[03:44] <Hoxzer_> jowi: yeah, but if I just use "adduser" and then try to login it gives errors
[03:44] <Jowi> LazyAngel: sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[03:44] <wickedpuppy> Hoxzer, system -> administration -> users and groups .. have you tried this one ?
[03:44] <Hoxzer_> yes
[03:44] <YukiIkyuta> Jowi, keep in mind rar is not a package available in the normal mirrors (I believe[!] ).
[03:44] <Hoxzer_> it gives error when I login
[03:44] <wickedpuppy> it gives you error ?
[03:44] <Ng> LazyAngel: you will need the multiverse repository installed
[03:44] <wickedpuppy> what error ?
[03:44] <Hoxzer_> yes
[03:44] <Ng> YukiIkyuta: yeah, it's in multiverse
[03:44] <avinoam> jeez apt-getting is sooo slow
[03:44] <Hoxzer_> it doesn't give right rights to new user
[03:44] <cheemp> defcon, YukiIkyuta, what is funny is the team members (except the lead) kept me on their msn and still message me now and then, and they are falling into the grooves of what i set out to do.. the company is actually putting the lead on another project, and promoted the guy i trained to lead.. the irony :)
[03:44] <YukiIkyuta> Ooh, okay. ^^
[03:44] <Jowi> Hoxzer_: that's correct. adduser does not create home directories and settings unless you tell it to. sudo users-admin will
[03:45] <Ng> YukiIkyuta: as is unrar-nonfree :)
[03:45] <Jowi> !info rar
[03:45] <ubotu> rar: (Archiver for .rar files), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 488 kB
[03:45] <YukiIkyuta> Aah.
[03:45] <YukiIkyuta> Neat. ^^
[03:45] <sig> why does the install choose i386 when it should be i686 for my laptop?
[03:45] <YukiIkyuta> I added a normal Debian mirror to get mine -_-;;;
[03:45] <YukiIkyuta> cheemp, bitter-sweet irony at that. -_-
[03:45] <Jowi> :)
[03:46] <Ng> sig: even the i386 kernel is optimised for Pentiums, so it's fine, but you can install linux-686 if you want and it'll pull in a new kernel and stuff
[03:46] <sig> ok thanks
[03:46] <SpiderMan> YukiIkyuta, can you send me a copy of your sources.list file, I have done what you said, but still getting many errors ?
[03:47] <YukiIkyuta> I'm not actually using these sources, as they're quite slow for me - what errors are you getting?
[03:47] <YukiIkyuta> And can you show me your sources?
[03:47] <LazyAngel> Ng: i have this one in my source.list. Isn't this the right one? deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe main restricted multiverse
[03:47] <cheemp> YukiIkyuta, yeah.. so now i am unemployed...
[03:47] <avinoam> Jowi, what exactly is gstreamer?
[03:47] <avinoam> Jowi, is it the engine for totem?
[03:47] <YukiIkyuta> cheemp, ack ><
[03:48] <Jowi> avinoam: gstreamer is a multimedia backend that several apps use. totem-gstreamer uses it. totem-xine is based on xine
[03:48] <Ng> LazyAngel: that should be ok
[03:48] <avinoam> Jowi, so if i don't use totem, i don't need gstreamer?
[03:48] <Hoxzer_> ...
[03:48] <Hoxzer_> ... it still gives errors
[03:48] <LazyAngel> it doesn't work :( Does it matter that i have 64-bit os?
[03:48] <Ng> ah
[03:48] <Ng> yes
[03:49] <Jowi> avinoam: i found totem-xine to have wider range of plugins/codecs. gstreamer is always good to have. other programs (rhythmbox for example) use it
[03:49] <sig> where can I get more sources.list so I can add extra apps? like extra fonts?
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> sig ... enable universe and multiverse
[03:49] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, can you show me your sources, or what errors?
[03:49] <cheemp> YukiIkyuta, but i'm moving from enterprise biz apps in .NET to full on embedded linux, starting my own company
[03:49] <YukiIkyuta> cheemp, ! That's neat - you have much grounding in pure Linux programming?
[03:49] <LazyAngel> so... anyone knows how to install rar on 64-bit ubuntu? :)
[03:49] <Ng> LazyAngel: you can either grab the rar package and install it by hand ignoring the architecture, or you could grab the official rar linux binary from rarsoft
[03:50] <avinoam> Jowi, xine won't look go gstreamer for codecs if it can't fine any?
[03:50] <LazyAngel> Ng: thanks
[03:50] <soo> fdf
[03:50] <Jowi> avinoam: i do not know.
[03:50] <Hoxzer_> so...
[03:50] <avinoam> Jowi, do you use the mplayer codec pack as well?
[03:50] <Hoxzer_> jowi?
[03:50] <Jowi> avinoam: nah, no mplayer for me
[03:51] <cheemp> YukiIkyuta, nope... next to none... i'll needto read some good primers
[03:51] <Jowi> Hoxzer_ ?
[03:51] <Hoxzer_> jowi: I still get errors
[03:51] <YukiIkyuta> cheemp, I have a very good book - the Linux Programming Bible. I highly suggest it.
[03:51] <Jowi> Hoxzer_: what errors do you get?
[03:51] <Hoxzer_> it says the administor have not given rights to gnome panel to create something
[03:51] <YukiIkyuta> Though it doesn't give a very good intro (at all) on C++, which is essential.
[03:51] <YukiIkyuta> Googling will most often help you through bits! There are many primers
[03:51] <Paradoxx> hmm, what vnc clients would you all recommend?
[03:52] <Jowi> Hoxzer_ admin? have you enabled a root account?
[03:52] <Hoxzer_> Jowi: how do I do that
[03:52] <sig> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/universe/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 130.239.18.142 80] 
[03:52] <Hoxzer_> and how do I shutdown my X now that it is running without panels
[03:52] <sig> lots of that
[03:52] <sig> any ideas?
[03:52] <sproingie> sig: update
[03:52] <dave> hi, i'm having a problem.  when I click on anything that requires root privileges I immediately get a pop-up that says "Failed to run ______ as user root: No password was supplied and sudo needs it."    I get no prompt before this.  Is there a way I can fix this?  (It had worked until yesterday.)
[03:52] <Jowi> Hoxzer_: oh, so you didn't. phew! you do not need to enable a root account, that's the whole point :)
[03:52] <sig> I just did
[03:52] <sig> apt-get update
[03:53] <sig> errored
[03:53] <Hoxzer_> Jowi: ok, do you know how should I shutdown x?
[03:53] <Hoxzer_> so I can re run it with admin
[03:53] <Jowi> Hoxzer_: ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:53] <maswan> sig: oh. does us.archive point here? no wonder things might be backwards. I'll fix that now.
[03:53] <Hoxzer_> Jowi: doesn't that only restart X?
[03:53] <cheemp> YukiIkyuta, C++ won't be that much of a prob.. it's more all the libs, the general style, guidelines, and then the internals of the 2.6 kernel....
[03:53] <disasm> dave: try running gksudo from a terminal
[03:53] <Hoxzer_> oh, it shutdowns it
[03:54] <YukiIkyuta> cheemp, try to keep out of the kernel internals if you can, if you want any portability.
[03:54] <maswan> sig: hmm.. no, not quite that easy, it seems.
[03:54] <sig> maswan, ?
[03:54] <Jowi> Hoxzer_: it restarts it if you are lucky, haha. it's only a safety meassure
[03:54] <YukiIkyuta> Stream IO, preferrably by the standard library, is the way to go.
[03:54] <YukiIkyuta> None of this `printf' nonsense.
[03:54] <maswan> sig: ignore this. :)
[03:54] <YukiIkyuta> But it's all easy to pick up. ^^
[03:54] <sig> aren't backports bad?
[03:54] <sig> anyways?
[03:54] <cheemp> YukiIkyuta, see, that's the stuff i need to learn :)
[03:54] <avinoam> xine isn't playing nice
[03:54] <YukiIkyuta> Hah, yup. ^^
[03:54] <Paradoxx> what vnc client would you all recommed?
[03:55] <dave> disasm: it says "missing command to run"
[03:55] <YukiIkyuta> Once you get a hold on it, though, you can use that in all platforms.
[03:55] <YukiIkyuta> My code ports without any effort between Linux and Windows, which is great.
[03:55] <cheemp> but whenever i see a printf, i frown.. thinking.. there has to be another way ;)
[03:55] <YukiIkyuta> Hah. ^^
[03:55] <avinoam> Jowi, it just closes the xine window when i run it now
[03:55] <sig> all I did was uncomment the multiverse and universe and it gives 404 errors
[03:55] <jrr> cheemp: but printf is *awesome* !
[03:55] <YukiIkyuta> std::cout << "Some element." << std::endl;
[03:55] <httpdss> avinoam: mplayer and w32codecs are a good option
[03:55] <YukiIkyuta> Standard library way to do it! ^^
[03:55] <Jowi> Hoxzer_: take everything from the beginning. login with your normal account and run "sudo users-admin" to set up a new account. if the old account that you created is listed, delete it and add it again. you will get options for what the user is allowed to do. it's a good idea to enable audio support for the new user.
[03:55] <YukiIkyuta> jrr, is that sarcasm? o_O
[03:56] <jrr> no! try to format cout that well!
[03:56] <avinoam> httpdss, what's wrong with xine?
[03:56] <Hoxzer_> now
[03:56] <YukiIkyuta> jrr, with ease!!!
[03:56] <sproingie> jrr: boost::format
[03:56] <YukiIkyuta> `printf' is evil!
[03:56] <avinoam> It runs in kaffeine, but choppily (as usual)
[03:56] <Jowi> avinoam: it should not do that. that's a crash. in a terminal type "killall totem"
[03:56] <Hoxzer_> Jowi: I already did that
[03:56] <jrr> i'm a big fan of printf. even better, though, is *scanf*
[03:56] <Paradoxx> what vnc client would you recommend..
[03:56] <Paradoxx> any1?
[03:56] <avinoam> jowi i'm not using totem
[03:56] <YukiIkyuta> O_O
[03:56] <Paradoxx> !vnc
[03:56] <jrr> vncviewer?
[03:56] <ubotu> I heard vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[03:57] <avinoam> no process killed
[03:57] <httpdss> avinoam: nothin' that i know of .. but mplayer works out of the box ..
[03:57] <Jowi> avinoam: i thought you installed totem-xine
[03:57] <avinoam> I did
[03:57] <Paradoxx> jrr kk, ty, i'll check it out
[03:57] <sig> anyone have an answer form me?
[03:57] <Jowi> avinoam: then you are using totem with xine backend. "killall totem"
[03:57] <avinoam> totem crashes as well
[03:57] <Jowi> avinoam: ouch
[03:57] <sig> I uncommented the universe and multiverse and ran apt-get update and I get 404 errors
[03:58] <httpdss> sig: what was the prob
[03:58] <lawrence> hi
[03:58] <httpdss> re run ..
[03:58] <avinoam> again no process killed
[03:58] <sig> httpdss, 404 errors and the multiverse and universe repos
[03:58] <lawrence> anyone here have UT2003 on Ubuntu?
[03:58] <avinoam> httpdss, if i install mplayer, it will come with codecs?
[03:58] <Jowi> avinoam: have you tried to log out and in again? sounds like a setting or resource is causing the wierd behaviour.....
[03:58] <HrdwrBoB> lawrence: no
[03:58] <HrdwrBoB> lawrence: only 2k4
[03:58] <avinoam> Jowi, full restart or just to log out?
[03:58] <Welly> Hello all.. i'm trying to upgrade MySQL on breezy to mysql 4.1 as it seems the default version is 4.0.. any pointers how i might do this?
[03:59] <cheemp> yuki, std::cout is how i would do it.... but in my girlfriend's enginnering classes, they teach printf, scanf...
[03:59] <httpdss> avinoam: no, you need w32codecs
[03:59] <Jowi> avinoam: just log out
[03:59] <lawrence> ahh.. I have that on a DVD.. but my DVDs broked.. so I can't install it..
[03:59] <lawrence> wahhhh
[03:59] <avinoam> httpdss, i have it
[03:59] <YukiIkyuta> cheemp, ah.. how outdated.
[03:59] <sig> can someone point me to a wiki that has an updated sources.list example for adding multiverse and universe?
[03:59] <YukiIkyuta> cheemp, the new C++ liberates a LOT.
[03:59] <httpdss> avinoam: then it should work
[03:59] <cheemp> yuki: actually it's a C introduction
[03:59] <YukiIkyuta> eg. the string library.
[03:59] <YukiIkyuta> That would do it. ^^
[03:59] <lawrence> avinoam, how do you copy files into the Maps directory?
[03:59] <disasm> dave: try sudo apt-get install gksudo
[03:59] <Jowi> Hoxzer_: so the new user still can't log in?
[04:00] <brenner> ubotu: tell sig about repos
[04:00] <lawrence> HrdwrBoB, how do you copy maps into the Maps directory?
[04:00] <avinoam> No luck
[04:01] <aftertaf> isnt there apm support in the default kernel?
[04:01] <avinoam> httpdss, is w32 really that comprehensive?
[04:01] <Jowi> avinoam: if you start totem in a terminal you should see if there are any errors before the crash...
[04:01] <avinoam> Jowi, i wanna use xine
[04:01] <avinoam> I hate totem
[04:01] <avinoam> it sucks ass
[04:01] <Jowi> lol
[04:02] <dave> disasm:  says "couldn't find package gksudo" but I installed gnome-sudo a few moments ago because I did apt-cache search gksudo and that came up (I'm on breezy)
[04:02] <Welly> ok.. how about this? How do I run the VNC server from the command line as it doesn't run on startup?
[04:02] <avinoam> alright, i got you an error code
[04:02] <axisys_> what happend to the matrix screen saver ? It was in Hoary but missing in Breezy
[04:02] <avinoam> xine: h264.c:1967: mc_dir_part: Assertion `pic->data[0] ' failed.
[04:02] <avinoam> Aborted
[04:02] <bina> does anyone what package mod_rewrite is in for apache2?
[04:03] <avinoam> Jowi, does that help any?
[04:03] <aftertaf> david@dell-laptop:~$ apmd
[04:03] <aftertaf> No APM support in kernel
[04:03] <Ng> bina: it's probably in the main package
[04:03] <avinoam> [h264 @ 0xb6615170] AVC: Consumed only 1178 bytes instead of 121
[04:03] <avinoam> [h264 @ 0xb6615170] error, NO frame
[04:03] <avinoam> I got that as well
[04:03] <SpiderMan> YukiIkyuta did you get the logs
[04:03] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, no?
[04:03] <bina> Ng: hmm, do i need to enable it in some conf file then? according to phpinfo tisnt enabled
[04:04] <Jowi> avinoam: are you sure that movie is ok?
[04:04] <sig> brenneer that shows how to add them via synaptec
[04:04] <YukiIkyuta> Just copy out some of the lines from your sources.list?
[04:04] <disasm> dave: what do ya know, i lost gksu after installing breezy as well
[04:04] <SpiderMan> do pvt msg's not come through
[04:04] <sig> I don't use synaptec, I use apt-get
[04:04] <Welly> Anyone? how do I get the VNC server up and running from the terminal?
[04:04] <avinoam> Jowi, i think so...
[04:04] <avinoam> Jowi, it runs in kaffeine, but very choppily
[04:04] <sig> and there are no sources.list examples like I was looking for
[04:04] <axisys_> ubotu: tell axisys_ about screen saver
[04:04] <sector10> there seems to be no way to easily configure synaptics touchpad
[04:04] <Ng> bina: possibly. There's also mod-proxy, maybe it's that in apache2, I'm not actually sure to be honest.
[04:04] <Jowi> avinoam: ah. hmm...
[04:04] <avinoam> Jowi, but then again, kaffeine always runs choppily on my system
[04:04] <brenner> sig: ubotu gave you two pastebin links
[04:04] <axisys_> ubotu: tell axisys_ about matrix
[04:04] <YukiIkyuta> sector10, you're right - I have the same problem.
[04:05] <dave> disasm: huh, i've been running breezy for a couple of weeks without this issue though.  seems odd that it would just stop working like that
[04:05] <sector10> that includes xorg.conf wich wont work
[04:05] <Welly> Ok.. :-/ can anyone then suggest a linux help channel i might get some answers from?
[04:05] <bina> Ng: k, well ill try a rule then if it doesnt work ill install that.  Thanks
[04:05] <Jowi> Welly: vino-server
[04:05] <disasm> dave: after installing gnome-sudo does gksudo exist?
[04:05] <Welly> Jowi: thank you
[04:05] <dave> disasm: no
[04:05] <brenner> sig: there should also be comments in the sources.list file itself, telling you which line corressponds to which repo.....uncomment the ones you want, then apt-get update
[04:05] <maurycy> Any ideas how to install Ruby Gems on Ubuntu, without doing it by hand? Are there any existing apt sources for it?
[04:05] <sector10> YukiIkyuta: what do you have for equipment?
[04:05] <disasm> dave type which gksu
[04:06] <YukiIkyuta> sector10, I'm using an ASUS laptop with a synaptics touchpad.
[04:06] <dave> disasm: same
[04:06] <axisys_> so anyone can help w/ screen saver?
[04:06] <sector10> YukiIkyuta: sony vaio with nvidia here
[04:06] <YukiIkyuta> I can't configure it to work properly, so I have to use the standard driver.
[04:06] <YukiIkyuta> Aah, I see.
[04:06] <avinoam> Alright i guess i'll install mplayer. you need five applications to run movies !
[04:06] <sector10> YukiIkyuta: do you got windows opening on accident becuase its too sensative?
[04:07] <brenner> sig: or replace your old sources.list file with the one you want in the pastebin link
[04:07] <Revellion> avinoam: not really
[04:07] <matrix_> moin
[04:07] <Revellion> just 1
[04:07] <Revellion> MPlayer
[04:07] <Jowi> avinoam: just ignore my super good advice about totem-xine ;)
[04:07] <Revellion> the cure all do all cure ;)
[04:07] <YukiIkyuta> sector10, yes. It also randomly starts scrolling up and not stopping.
[04:07] <matrix_> german here?
[04:07] <disasm> dave try sudo apt-get install gksu libgksuui1.0-0 libgksu1.2-0
[04:07] <sector10> YukiIkyuta: same here, and my typing is jumpy
[04:07] <YukiIkyuta> Typing?
[04:07] <dave> disasm: what's odd is that it says that it should exist (as in if I tab at "gk" it gives me gksu and gksudo as commands)
[04:08] <sector10> YukiIkyuta: Ubuntu should have done something about it.
[04:08] <YukiIkyuta> I'm sure there's some way around it.
[04:08] <avinoam> Jowi, i tried running in totem as well
[04:08] <YukiIkyuta> I'm just lazy. ---
[04:08] <YukiIkyuta> -_-
[04:08] <sector10> YukiIkyuta: there is no utility which works
[04:08] <disasm> dave type gksudo echo test
[04:08] <sector10> YukiIkyuta: its in the kernel im afraid
[04:08] <YukiIkyuta> As in, modules.
[04:09] <YukiIkyuta> Plus, I think my laptop may be deficient itself, slightly.
[04:09] <axisys_> so anyone here use matrix screen saver?
[04:09] <sector10> YukiIkyuta: xorg.conf is not really correct, you can add tap time etc to no avail
[04:09] <xulin> hi
[04:09] <YukiIkyuta> Yes.
[04:09] <axisys_> the cool one where it draws the pic of the matrix characters?
[04:09] <Jowi> avinoam: strange strange strange. my totem-xine plays dvd, mp4, ogg, divx, mpeg, avi and even crappy win movies without complains.
[04:09] <dave> disasm: already installed
[04:09] <dave> disasm: returns "test"
[04:09] <sector10> YukiIkyuta: the driver for synaptics is not there its in the kernel I think
[04:10] <disasm> dave: then gksudo is now working
[04:10] <xulin> question : .. why xprint not supported in breezy ... ?
[04:10] <YukiIkyuta> xorg would reference it, though, yes.
[04:10] <sector10> YukiIkyuta: this is why ksynaptics, qsynaptic all dont work
[04:10] <dave> disasm: why is it still saying 'missing command to run'
[04:10] <avinoam> Maybe mplayer will work
[04:10] <YukiIkyuta> I've never tried such programs.
[04:10] <omnivision> Hi. I'm examining an auth.log which seems mysterious. It's created the 20th october, but only displayes logs from the 29th. Does anyone have a clue where my 9 days went?
[04:10] <sector10> YukiIkyuta: look in synaptic package manager
[04:11] <disasm> dave: you have to give gksudo a command to run for it to run a command as root ;-)
[04:11] <omnivision> Is it possible somehow that the log is reset and all log entries are erased?
[04:11] <dave> disasm:  oh.  :P
[04:11] <YukiIkyuta> I prefer not to use synaptic, but I see your point.
[04:11] <sector10> YukiIkyuta: you should try them, if they dont function or complain of missing driver...
[04:11] <axisys_> is there a way I can make my terminal transparent so I can see the terminal underneath?
[04:11] <Jowi> omnivision: have you check if maybe it isn't archived?
[04:11] <avinoam> Do i need to install codecs for mplayer as well?
[04:12] <httpdss> the w32codecs are for mplayer
[04:12] <Jowi> avinoam: w32codecs are universal for all media players i know of
[04:12] <SpiderMan> YukiIkyuta I pvt'ed the logs ?
[04:12] <omnivision> Jowi, not sure what you mean. That the 9 days were taken out of auth.log and stored somewhere else?
[04:12] <avinoam> httpdss, do i need to install the mplayer frontend or can i use it through something else?
[04:12] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, I do not see any messages.
[04:13] <sector10> YukiIkyuta: earlier kernel versions allowed for the ksynaptics gui to configure touchpad. Now I read its supposed to be part of the kernel and there is no way to change anything. So its broke.
[04:13] <SpiderMan> strange
[04:13] <Jowi> omnivision: yes. check if you have an /var/log/auth.log.1.gz or something similar
[04:13] <httpdss> avinoam im using them through xmms
[04:13] <YukiIkyuta> sector10, I would try it, but I can't restart X right now.
[04:13] <sector10> ok
[04:13] <axisys_> ubotu: tell axisys_ about terminal
[04:13] <dave> disasm:  so where does that leave me.  still can't access gui functions that require root privileges
[04:13] <sector10> there is also ubuntu laptop testers just so you know
[04:14] <YukiIkyuta> Yes, I know.
[04:14] <omnivision> Jowi is that a default setting? to archive old entries?
[04:14] <Jowi> avinoam: i was thinking... maybe you should look to see if your video output sink is correct. in xine, enable VESA instead of what is selected now... might do the trick...
[04:14] <sector10> i just tried reiser4 on my laptop and it boots in 30 seconds
[04:14] <disasm> dave: type gksudo gdmsetup what does that return?
[04:14] <omnivision> Jowi, there's no auth.log.1.gz :/
[04:14] <avinoam> Jowi, success
[04:14] <SpiderMan> YukiIkyuta I got your msg, and then sent the log,
[04:15] <avinoam> Jowi, in mplayer
[04:15] <Jowi> omnivision: yeah, all log files are "rotated" as it is called.
[04:15] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, I still can't see any replies.
[04:15] <SpiderMan> flood protection
[04:15] <Jowi> omnivision: maybe you got hacked?
[04:15] <omnivision> jowi, but all new files are named something like auth.log so I can run a search on them
[04:15] <dave> disasm:  that works.  i've been able to launch the interfaces from command line
[04:15] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, aah, just send me one of the source lines.
[04:15] <YukiIkyuta> So I can look at it.
[04:15] <YukiIkyuta> Not the whole log file.
[04:15] <Jowi> avinoam: congrats :)
[04:16] <omnivision> Jowi: possible but not likely. It's a humble server a hair dresser uses (don't ask for what), but noone knows of it.
[04:16] <omnivision> Jowi: Somehow the log shows multible restarts of ssh which I can't explain
[04:17] <omnivision> Jowi: The restart entries shows right in the begining of it.
[04:17] <Jowi> omnivision: just noticed i have 100s of "invalid user blabla". someone has tried to force into my system through ssh but failed....
[04:17] <lawrence> GLTRON!!
[04:18] <SpiderMan> deb ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/ubuntu/archive/breezy-updates main restricted universe
[04:18] <Welly> how do i install .RPM packages?
[04:18] <dave> disasm: could it be that gnome is automatically passing a wrong password?
[04:18] <Juhaz> omnivision, you don't have to be particularly important to get targeted, every box no matter how "humble" can function perfectly well as spam mailer
[04:18] <lawrence> you can't really install RPM packages in Ubuntu, it seems
[04:18] <brenner> Welly: what are you trying to install?
[04:18] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, I said you needed to fix the lines so that they read ... 'ubuntu/archive/dist/breezy-updates main' ...
[04:18] <YukiIkyuta> All three of them.
[04:18] <YukiIkyuta> That should get them to work.
[04:19] <Welly> brenner: tightvnc server
[04:19] <SpiderMan> sorry, wrong line, i did that
[04:19] <omnivision> Juhaz: That's right, but the case here is, that all userfiles have been removed
[04:19] <YukiIkyuta> That's okay.
[04:19] <YukiIkyuta> In that case..
[04:19] <lawrence> anyone here know how to install tron?
[04:19] <YukiIkyuta> So it looks like what?
[04:19] <brenner> Welly: check if it's in the repos first, if not, you can install by using 'alien' to convert the rpm file to a deb, then dpkg -i <debfile> to install
[04:19] <dave> disasm: or, rather, passing nothing as the password automatically?  (and where would I track down something like that?)
[04:19] <YukiIkyuta> deb ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/ubuntu/archive/dists/breezy-updates main restricted universe
[04:20] <YukiIkyuta> Like that?
[04:20] <omnivision> Jowi, gezz. Can't be left alone can ye? ;). Well at least you're not bound for a possible lawsuit! ... I really need to find out what
[04:20] <Welly> brenner: there's a website somewhere I remember someone mentioning that lists all the contents of the repos.. any idea what it is?
[04:20] <Welly> something like ubuntuumm..repos.org :) something like that
[04:20] <brenner> Welly: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:20] <Jowi> omnivision: maybe they had a hair fetish :)
[04:20] <lawrence> so who said they have Unreal Tournament 2003 or Unreal Tournament 2004 here?
[04:20] <Welly> thats the bugger
[04:20] <brenner> Welly: you can also just use synaptic or apt-get searches
[04:21] <Welly> brenner: i mustn't have the correct repo set up in my sources files because i didn't appear when i did an apt-cache search
[04:21] <lawrence> is that Synaptic thing downloading packages off the internet?
[04:22] <Welly> oh i need to uncomment out the universe repos
[04:22] <brenner> lawrence: sudo apt-get install gltron
[04:22] <YukiIkyuta> lawrence, that or your CD.
[04:22] <omnivision> Jowi, lol. maybe they did. I hope you don't mind me asking. But do you reckon that those multible server restarts could have triggered an unforced disk repair on bootup, that would have found inconsistency in the userfiles and therefore removed them, all with no notice or human user to accept?
[04:22] <lawrence> cool
[04:22] <avinoam> omg it's soooo choppy
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. I wonder if the ubuntu wiki/forums - have a 'total beginners guide to linux & ubuntu' page yet.
[04:23] <YukiIkyuta> Dr_Willis, what sort of thing are you looking for?
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> YukiIkyuta,  somthing to SEND people to. :P
[04:23] <YukiIkyuta> ^^ Nice!
[04:23] <disasm> dave: i was thinking of removing ubuntu-desktop and reinstalling it, but i can't remember how to remove all packages a virtual package points to, someone told me once when I accidentally installed X on my server a few years back...
[04:24] <brenner> doesn't breezy have a faq or something?
[04:24] <Jowi> omnivision: highly unlikely. but then again, i'm no expert
[04:24] <omnivision> Jowi: I'm certian that there's only one auth.log. What would it take for the log entries between the 20th and the 29th to be deleted?
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> YukiIkyuta,  heh. How mean eh.. but i see way too many  'whats the command to copy a file...' ect. kind of fundamantal questions. :P
[04:24] <SpiderMan> deb ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/ubuntu/archive/dists/breezy-updates main restricted universe
[04:24] <YukiIkyuta> Of course, they're everywhere. ^^
[04:24] <Jowi> omnivision: my first guess would be "manual deletion"
[04:24] <YukiIkyuta> Probably a good idea.
[04:24] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, that should work fine. Are you sure all other lines that shouldn't be there are commented out, or erased?
[04:25] <Jowi> omnivision: could also be that the computer was off during those days?
[04:25] <SpiderMan> yup, I commented all of them out,
[04:25] <dave> disasm: I wouldn't know - I'm new to the linux thing  (loving Ubuntu though)
[04:25] <YukiIkyuta> And update fails with what message?
[04:25] <brenner> Dr_Willis: aren't those more generic, nix questions?
[04:25] <lawrence> hey, is there a way to change the permissions of one folder so I can get in and change stuff?
[04:25] <YukiIkyuta> lawrence, of course.
[04:25] <lawrence> in X?
[04:26] <YukiIkyuta> lawrence, you could always crack open a shell. ^^
[04:26] <YukiIkyuta> But most file managers have a way too.
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> brenner,  yea - getting where im seeing way too many 'trivial' questions that can be answered by 2 min of reading the gnome help docs. (which do need help however) :P
[04:26] <lawrence> hahah!! good one
[04:26] <YukiIkyuta> Is it one not accessable to user accounts?
[04:26] <YukiIkyuta> What was a good one ..?
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> wonder if the bot could keep track of all the kinds of questions asked. and rank them
[04:26] <lawrence> so, what's the commands then? I want to make it so that I don't have to be root to drop a map into the Map files of Unreal Tournament
[04:26] <omnivision> Jowi: Yes. Could be. It's all a mess. I didn't install the server, neither did I sell it. Actually my partner made the installation as a supplier for another company. Now they're starting to point fingers our direction.
[04:26] <YukiIkyuta> Aah.
[04:26] <YukiIkyuta> Well.
[04:27] <YukiIkyuta> You can chown the directory to your own user account.
[04:27] <dave> disasm: thanks for your help.  I'll see if I can track something down on that and, if not, perhaps I'll post the question on forum...  unless you're not out of ideas for the moment  ;-)
[04:27] <YukiIkyuta> So, as root...
[04:27] <YukiIkyuta> chown YOURUSERACCOUNTNAME /path/to/maps/directory
[04:27] <YukiIkyuta> Then you might want to chown the maps already in there incase you want to edit them.
[04:27] <omnivision> Jowi: Well. Thank you much for your help. :)
[04:27] <Paradoxx> hmm, i just did an apt-cache search for a vnc client. Though i'm not sure which one to install...
[04:27] <Paradoxx> can any1 help me?
[04:27] <YukiIkyuta> chown -R YOURUSERACCOUNTNAME /path/to/maps/directory/*
[04:27] <YukiIkyuta> Paradoxx, I suggest tightvnc
[04:28] <lawrence> cool!! thankyou!!
[04:28] <Jowi> omnivision: strong passwords are best protection. if "they" got in through ssh you can at least limit the dammage by setting a limit on number of attempts from one ip source...
[04:28] <YukiIkyuta> You're welcome.
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> Paradoxx,  some of them have been a little finicky lately. You need a vnc CLIENT. or the server? or both.
[04:28] <Paradoxx> YukiIkyuta: y is that?
[04:28] <alican> Hi all
[04:28] <alican> I ve a problem
[04:28] <Jowi> omnivision: so if they use a password like "god" at least your company can not be blamed :)
[04:28] <YukiIkyuta> Paradoxx, I've used it, it's always worked well, and it has a very good compression algorithm.
[04:28] <YukiIkyuta> alican, what's up?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> Paradoxx,  most all the clients are compatiable.  Tightvnc is very well done
[04:28] <alican> Oct 19 17:28:21 mail postfix/cleanup[7902] : warning: connect to mysql server localhost: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[04:28] <Paradoxx> Dr_Willis: i need a client
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> Paradoxx,  then you got the kde/gnome specific variants with nicer 'interface' in some ways
[04:29] <Paradoxx> kk, i'll try that one out
[04:29] <SpiderMan> W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.is.co.za breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.is.co.za_linux_distributions_ubuntu_dists_breezy_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:29] <bina> !tell bina about apache2
[04:29] <Paradoxx> Dr_Willis: explain please.,
[04:29] <alican> my postfix cannot connect to mysql
[04:29] <alican> any ideas ?
[04:29] <YukiIkyuta> Hm.
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> Paradoxx,  just the tightvnc stuff with a nicer 'interface' in some ways.
[04:30] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, have you done the `apt-get update'  ?
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> Paradoxx,  apt-cache search vnc    - and see wht alls there.
[04:30] <YukiIkyuta> Or is that while doing it?
[04:30] <sig> I'm getting this: W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[04:30] <Paradoxx> Dr_Willis: i have already set up the remote desktop setting on the server machine, so i'm just trying to get a client
[04:30] <sig> how do I fix this
[04:30] <omnivision> Jowi: Actually the client who bought the server has at least 6 adminstrators with rm capabities. However we made scripted wrapped around the rm, to log such incidents. The log doesn't show anything, so we believe it could only be through a webinterface (that we developed) or through FTP
[04:30] <YukiIkyuta> alican, is the MySQL server running?
[04:30] <freako969> hi
[04:30] <Paradoxx> Dr_Willis:  thats what i did...
[04:30] <freako969> can some1 help me plz
[04:30] <SpiderMan> that is while doing the apt-get update
[04:30] <YukiIkyuta> freako969, what's up?
[04:30] <freako969> wots the command for upgrading? im on 5.0.4
[04:30] <Paradoxx> Dr_Willis: i'm not sure which one to choose that, thats the prob...
[04:31] <freako969> i want to upgrade me distro
[04:31] <freako969> as apt wont work with the old version
[04:31] <Paradoxx> !breezy
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> Paradoxx,  could also fire up synaptic and read the descriptions  - which can be a little vague :P
[04:31] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:31] <freako969> so wot the command for downloading the upgrade
[04:31] <alican> YukiIkyuta, yes .. I can do : mysql -u root -pxxx
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> apt wont work?
[04:31] <YukiIkyuta> freako969, see that page as described above.
[04:31] <omnivision> Jowi: There's maybe people who seems more likely to point fingers at than us. I just need to insure our innosence :S and avoid a lawsuit :)
[04:31] <alican> and use mysql commands
[04:31] <YukiIkyuta> alican, that's odd. Is it running on a socket as well, though?
[04:31] <Paradoxx> tell freako969 about !breezy
[04:31] <sig> how do I fix this gpg error?
[04:31] <YukiIkyuta> Depends how your MySQL server is set up.
[04:32] <freako969> cheers
[04:32] <alican> YukiIkyuta, on a socket ??
[04:32] <Jowi> omnivision: 6 admins with "root" accounts sounds abit overkill, absolutely.
[04:32] <SpiderMan> that is while doing the apt-get update
[04:32] <YukiIkyuta> alican, postfix connects to the server via a file on the computer, as opposed to through the network, so you need to make sure that MySQL can accept both types of connections.
[04:32] <freako969> my apt int working?
[04:32] <freako969> weird?
[04:32] <omnivision> Jowi: they don't have root, just rm access through the ftp or webinterface.
[04:32] <sig> The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[04:32] <sig> how do I fix this?
[04:33] <YukiIkyuta> SpiderMan, I see.. try clearing /var/lib/apt/lists/, then try again.
[04:33] <alican> YukiIkyuta, I setup authmysqlrc  to connect on /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[04:33] <disasm> dave: i'm not familiar enough with gnome, the main thing to check though is what command the menu is pointing to. even though gksudo is working maybe the menus looking for it in the wrong spot. I tend to use fluxbox mostly so don't know gnome very well
[04:34] <ekimus> any eclipse users here? i installed the 1.5 jdk from java.sun.com to "~/opt" and eclipse to "~/local/eclipse/" classpath is set fine, because i can start it from terminal but when i create a custom launcher it doesn seem to find the packages (java packages)
[04:34] <brenner> sig: when are you getting the error?
[04:34] <YukiIkyuta> alican, I'm not running MySQL, so I'm not sure how the setup should work ...
[04:34] <cyphase> hey everyone
[04:34] <sig> brenner, while running "apt-get update"
[04:34] <cyphase> does anyone else think there should be a list of packages that are optionally installed after Ubuntu is installed?
[04:34] <dave> disasm:  oh, darn... you still around?     I think I just figured out where the problem came from...  I just updated my other system running ubuntu and one of the updates was to gksu... after installing it it stopped asking for a password (although it seems to be automatically supplying the correct password on that machine)
[04:34] <cyphase> such as..
[04:34] <Jowi> omnivision: well, only admins should be able to modify a .log...... is the logs listed as -rw-r----- ?
[04:34] <satafterh> hello all I have a question and cant seem to find the answer in forums or anywhere eles. I no longer see or have access to my harddrive after upgrading, most of the time this is not a problems unless i want to edit xorg.conf or sourcelist, any one know a fix for this?
[04:34] <brenner> sig: sounds like you have a bad/erroneous repo or something in there
[04:34] <YukiIkyuta> alican, from what I can see, that should be fine.
[04:34] <brenner> sources.list i mean
[04:35] <sig> brenner, this was off the wiki you pasted to me
[04:35] <mythtv_> hi
[04:35] <disasm> dave: it prompts once every 5 minutes i think, so if you've used gksudo recently, it won't prompt
[04:35] <mythtv_> problem
[04:35] <Hoxzer_> dir
[04:35] <cyphase> backgrounds, themes, panel applets, maybe even beagle
[04:35] <omnivision> Jowi: not sure. But we don't have root access. Only the company we supplied does.
[04:35] <cyphase> stuff like that
[04:35] <bina> does anyone know how to install mod_rewrite for apache2? I cant find a download and it doesnt seem to be in any packages in my sources.
[04:35] <dave> disasm: oh.  ok.  :P
[04:35] <cyphase> bina, 1 sec
[04:36] <YukiIkyuta> alican, check /etc/mysql/my.cnf - make sure socket is enabled. If not, I'm afraid I don't know how to help you.
[04:36] <Hoxzer_> Mythtv configure requires to do "mysql < mc.sql" but when I do it it gives a error mythtv@mediabox:/usr/share/mythtv/sql$ sudo mysql < mc.sql ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[04:36] <ekimus> bina: isn't that included in apache, you just need to activate it
[04:36] <brenner> sig: um, iirc, the wiki doesn't give a sources.list file.....
[04:36] <cyphase> i wrote a blog post about it, but my server isn't up at th moment
[04:36] <cyphase> so let me check my database
[04:36] <YukiIkyuta> Hoxzer, are you running the MySQL server?
[04:36] <cyphase> the*
[04:36] <brenner> sig: do you mean the pastebin links?
[04:36] <Hoxzer_> Yuki: no
[04:36] <sig> brenner, pastebin
[04:36] <sig> sorry
[04:36] <Hoxzer_> how can I start it?
[04:36] <YukiIkyuta> Hoxzer, you'll have to install it! The package name is `mysql-server'.
[04:37] <YukiIkyuta> I actually have to go now, it's getting quite late here! (12:40am)
[04:37] <sgt-dyke> dpkg install mysql-server
[04:37] <bina> ekimus: i thought this but when I add RewriteEngine on in my httpd.conf and then restart the apache2 service it errors saying RewriteEngine is an invalid command
[04:37] <Jowi> omnivision: anyone should be list the logfiles.... ls -la /var/log/auth.log should give you info for that. if other have write access then it is definetley not you since you don't have root on that computer. easy. "we don't have a root account. blame your admins"
[04:37] <brenner> sig: paste the contents to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:37] <YukiIkyuta> I hope everyone finds their answers. Good luck, SpiderMan.
[04:37] <brenner> sig: and are you running hoary or breezy?
[04:37] <sig> the contents of what? my errors or the sources.list I'm using
[04:37] <Paradoxx> woot, its up...
[04:37] <sig> breezy
[04:37] <bina> ekimus: I added it to a .htaccess file which caused a 500 error
[04:37] <Paradoxx> thx much guys
[04:38] <brenner> sig: sources.list
[04:38] <sig> hold
[04:38] <ekimus> bina: probably because you need to activate the module before you an activate the rewrite engine
[04:38] <bina> ekimus. how do i do that?
[04:38] <freako969> cheers it working now
[04:38] <sgt-dyke> now that i install ubuntu...   .... what should i do ???
[04:38] <bina> ive had a look in webmin but cant find it in there
[04:38] <sig> brenner, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3340
[04:38] <omnivision> Jowi: I'll have to talk to them tomorrow to straighten things out. Thanks very much for your help. Maybe well meet again tomorrow ;)
[04:39] <gigaclon> anyone use Anjuta and gtkmm?
[04:39] <Jowi> c u omnivision :) and good luck!
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> sgt-dyke,  read a few dozen linux tutoral-beginner guides is a good start
[04:39] <omnivision> Jowi: Thanks :))
[04:39] <ekimus> bina: i don't have an apache2 available but there should be a bunch of "LoadModule..." lines in httpd.conf (or whatever the apache config file is called - not the .htaccess). lurk thru and have a look if you can find a line that is commented out and sounds like mod_rewrite
[04:39] <sgt-dyke> hahaha... Dr_Willis
[04:40] <ekimus> bina: don't forget to "/etc/init.d/apache2 restart" after updating the config file
[04:40] <cyphase> bina, private chat
[04:40] <disasm> ekimus: ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/rewrite.load /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[04:40] <sgt-dyke> Hey Dr_Willis is it normal that de game penguinracer is really slow
[04:40] <bina> ekimus: sweet ill look through, thanks
[04:40] <disasm> err bina ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/rewrite.load /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> sgt-dyke,  no :P you proberly dont have your 3d support for your video card working yet.
[04:40] <Welly> :-/ not having much luck with this tightvnc
[04:40] <brenner> sig: identical....weird...you shouldn't be getting any errors
[04:40] <Welly> i'm getting loads and loads of errors
[04:41] <disasm> whats wrong with it?
[04:41] <disasm> Welly: doing what?
[04:41] <ekimus> disasm: tell that bina, i can't access any apache2 enabled webservers
[04:41] <sig> brenner, do I need to add a key or something?
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> Welly,  in relation to the 'fonts' ?
[04:41] <disasm> ekimus: yeah, i did after i told it to you ;-)
[04:41] <bina> disasm: thanks
[04:41] <Welly> Dr_Willis: yep!
[04:41] <ekimus> ah ok :)
[04:41] <sgt-dyke> Dr_Willis and all the other... How can i do to manke my 3d support for my video card working .... YET
[04:41] <Welly> "please set correct fontPath.." etc.
[04:41] <disasm> bina: working?
[04:41] <disasm> Welly: server or viewer?
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> Welly - same problem here.. ive noticed the different vnc servers (vncserver, tightvncserver, vnc4server) all seem to do tings a little differently
[04:41] <Welly> disasm: on the server
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> welly - the only onei saw work right from the start was the normal vncserver
[04:42] <Welly> Dr_Willis: oh really? hmm.. ok.. i'll have a look for that
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> a problem is that they all want to (to some degree) use the same command names. ie: vncserver  (well some dont) :P
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> vncserver is a script - take a look at that.
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> its gotten me very annoyed one weekend.
[04:43] <brenner> sig: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75791.html
[04:43] <brenner> sig: might be worth a look
[04:43] <sig> brenner: looking now
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> Welly,  i enede up basicially rewriting the vncserver script a little bit one day.
[04:43] <Welly> Dr_Willis: where is the vncserver script found?
[04:43] <SpiderMan> i broke it
[04:43] <SpiderMan> arg
[04:43] <Welly> bloody hell.. i don't htink i can do that.. i've only been running linux a week :-/
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> welly its the 'vncserver' command. :P
[04:44] <defcon8> Welly, its actually easy to do anything. just erad docs
[04:44] <sig> brenner: I didn't do a dist-upgrade though like these guys
[04:44] <Hoxzer_> somebody here has mythtv installed on ubuntu?
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> welly  - my advice then - remove the other vnc's and jus use the normal vncserver
[04:44] <bina> disasm: tis indeed, thanks
[04:44] <Welly> Dr_Willis: ok.. cheers :)
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> welly - also the vncserver command takes a lot of command line optons to twiddlw with things
[04:45] <brenner> sig: yeah, but it might work anyway...see azteech's post....
[04:45] <SpiderMan> I cleared the /var/lib/apt/lists dir and now it wont work ?
[04:45] <coolkev> how do i edit the power management settings in breezy
[04:45] <CaiN_SA> lol
[04:45] <brenner> sig: and fifi's if that doesn't work
[04:45] <CaiN_SA> SpiderMan,
[04:45] <CaiN_SA> there are problems on the mirrors
[04:45] <CaiN_SA> wait a while
[04:45] <brenner> brb, getting AC adaptor...battery los
[04:45] <brenner> *low
[04:46] <coolkev> i see it in the advanced section under the screensaver option, but it's un useable
[04:46] <SpiderMan> 'musing a local mirror in SA, it gives me the error "Partial is missing"
[04:46] <disasm> Welly: yeah, same thing here, i even tried setting the font path statically in /usr/bin/tightvncserver
[04:47] <Welly> right, i've tinkered with the vncserver script and run it.. and it looks to be running - "new 'X' desktop is lois:1"
[04:47] <Welly> that looks positive right?
[04:48] <Welly> what port would it be on so i can connect to it from my other machine? :)
[04:48] <brenner> sig: i'm back fwiw
[04:48] <sig> fwiw?
[04:48] <Welly> haha. that was easy
[04:48] <Juhaz> Welly, 5800 + screen number, eg 5801
[04:48] <brenner> for what it's worth
[04:48] <sig> brb trying something
[04:49] <tombs> hi all
[04:49] <Welly> ok.. it connects but i get a cursor and a hatched-grey background :)
[04:49] <Welly> great!
[04:51] <disasm> Welly: now just edit the the startup script to start a wm
[04:51] <disasm> Welly: what did you change in the script?
[04:51] <Welly> lol ok.. :) i'll have a look around
[04:51] <Welly> disasm: i just uncommented the $fontPath line
[04:52] <ubuntunewbie2> I connect to the internet through a router (D-link) my ubuntu can't seem to connect to the router
[04:53] <defcon8> my router is fine
[04:53] <disasm> Welly: that doesn't even work for me
[04:53] <Welly> really? hmm.. i think it was just luck for me
[04:53] <Welly> there's a line.. hang about
[04:54] <Welly> disasm: $fontPath = "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/";
[04:54] <Welly> i just uncommented that line
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Welly - you may want to check the xorg.conf and see whats its fontpath seetings are.
[04:55] <graabein> i think i installed azureus manually from a deb... how do i remove it?
[04:55] <valdyn_> graabein: like any other package
[04:56] <graabein> i just know apt-get and apt-get remove azureus did not work. it is not in synaptic either
[04:57] <valdyn_> graabein: then the package 'azureus' is not installed
[04:57] <graabein> but the application is installed
[04:57] <brenner> graabein: there's an installed (local) section in synaptic
[04:59] <odie5533> Whats the best way to install sun Java on Breezy?
[05:00] <abyss_> !repositories
[05:00] <ubotu> I guess sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[05:00] <bigfoot1> i made my one and only panel NOT expand. How do i put it back to "Expand"able
[05:00] <bigfoot1> ?
[05:00] <graabein> brenner, cant see it in the section list...
[05:00] <sgt-dyke> sudo apt-get install sun java on breezy
[05:00] <bigfoot1> I have no "free space" to click on the panel.
[05:00] <graabein> yeah found it!
[05:00] <graabein> under <status>
[05:01] <Ng> bigfoot1: see where the menus are at the left? "Applications Places System"? click under where that text is, if you get the point of the pointer right on the edge of the panel and right click you get the panel menu
[05:01] <graabein> brenner, did not see it there either. maybe i compiled from source?
[05:02] <coolkev> how do i edit the power management settings in breezy, i see it in the advanced tab under the screensaver option, but it's un useable
[05:02] <alican> how can I see the list of files in package ??
[05:02] <brenner> graabein: i thought you found it?
[05:02] <brenner> graabein: yeah, sorry....should've been status, not sections
[05:02] <bigfoot1> Ng: i have the main menu (apps places system are subnested inside)
[05:02] <graabein> brenner, i found the status > installed (local or obsolete) list in synaptic but not the azureus package
[05:03] <brenner> graabein: it's possible you did......search for azureus maybe to double check
[05:03] <Welly> hmmm.. i'm not sure if exec gnome-session is running or not in this xstartup file but i'm not getting a gnome desktop
[05:03] <bigfoot1>  Ng: oh, I was able to click somewhere around the main menu and it still worked! thanks
[05:03] <Ng> :)
[05:03] <odie5533> Is there an easy way to install Sun Java JDK on Breezy?
[05:03] <graabein> i've already searched. the files are under my home/setup/azureus dir
[05:03] <bigfoot1> newbies like me should be banned from playing around with the panel
[05:04] <brenner> graabein: sounds like you did it from source then
[05:04] <graabein> brenner, i guess. any tips on removing it?
[05:04] <graabein> just deleting the dir or?
[05:04] <bigfoot1> ng, you know what, it also works on the thin border anywhere along the panel!!!!!!
[05:05] <Ng> bigfoot1: cool :)
[05:05] <brenner> graabein: try 'make uninstall'......next time use checkinstall, it makes a deb file from source which makes for easy removing later.
[05:05] <bigfoot1> ng, still, i think gnome should do somethnig about this.
[05:06] <graabein> brenner, thanks, ill try it after dinner! :-)
[05:06] <brenner> np
[05:07] <Ng> bigfoot1: it's not ideal. Generally a new panel ought to have the bottons on the edge imho, then it doesn't matter so much
[05:08] <abyss_> !cedega
[05:08] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[05:08] <brenner> bigfoot1: newbie? aren't you an old-timer?
[05:08] <ftwig> svn package does not seem to exist in breezy! am I going mad?
[05:08] <Ng> ftwig: apt-cache search svn :)
[05:09] <Ng> subversion - advanced version control system (aka. svn)
[05:09] <ftwig> Ng: ta - irc rocks ;)
[05:10] <ekimus> any good recommendations on EER-Diagram tools (not dia please)
[05:10] <selinium> H iall
[05:10] <brenner> i love dia. :)
[05:10] <selinium> hi all
[05:10] <alican> how can I see the list of files in package ??
[05:10] <ssam> ekimus, what is eer
[05:10] <Koven> !vmware
[05:10] <ubotu> I don't know, Koven
[05:11] <NoUse> ekimus maybe kivio
[05:11] <ekimus> extended? entity relationship (not sure about the first e any more) :)
[05:11] <ssam> ekimus, would xfig or inkscape work?
[05:12] <ekimus> even more hand work, but i saw some xfig howtos lately
[05:12] <brenner> if it's UML, i recall umbrello being mentioned
[05:12] <Fanskapet> agh.. damn azureus
[05:12] <ssam> ekimus, if you need thinga with line between them, and for the lines to follow the things, then xfig might not be good
[05:12] <selinium> I have just upgraded to Breezy, On the login page i get an error saying 'configuration file contains an invalid command line for the login dialogue, so runnning default commnd.'  How do I sort this?
[05:13] <brenner> but an apt-cache show doesn't show support for EERs
[05:13] <ssam> ekimus, but it is good for technical drawing
[05:13] <ekimus> ah well when i worked my way thru the new tool i might have as well finished my work with dia...
[05:13] <Koven> !xfree86
[05:13] <ubotu> Koven: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:13] <gigaclon> anyone know how I can get compile flags for gtkmm2.4?
[05:16] <unk> i cant get my sata drive to mount. What can i do. Is it anything wrong with this line; /dev/sda1       /mnt/sata250    reiserfs    defaults,noatime,auto     0       0
[05:17] <brenner> any zsnes users?
[05:18] <bigfoot1> brenner: what makes you think i'm an old timer?
[05:18] <unk> plz help. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=426342#post426342
[05:18] <bigfoot1> Ng: what i meant was: I think it's good if gnome makes it easy to get a panel back to "exand" mode. Because not everyone will know about this thin-border secret that we know.
[05:18] <zer0`> alican: if the package is installed, dpkg -L packagename   if the package isnt installed then apt-get install apt-file , apt-file update , apt-file -F list packagename
[05:18] <brenner> bigfoot1: i thought i rememberedyour nick being in here, like 4 months ago
[05:19] <covux> hi. ive a strange prob. while booting the error msg "Mounting local filesystems.. failed" comes up but booting continues and system is all fine. thanks for any ideas, help etc.
[05:19] <bigfoot1> brenner: i'm still a newbie in terms of what i know. I don't actively pursue geekhood, you see.
[05:20] <brenner> bigfoot1: righto.
[05:20] <bigfoot1> any X-lite users here?
[05:20] <Ng> bigfoot1: yeah
[05:20] <bigfoot1> ng, you use xlite?
[05:20] <Ng> bigfoot1: 'fraid not
[05:20] <Ng> what's xlite? ;)
[05:20] <bigfoot1> a sip softphone
[05:21] <bigfoot1> ng, not a diet drink
[05:21] <PatrikJohansson> hey, does anyone know much about wlan in ubuntu??
[05:21] <bigfoot1> PatrikJohansson: not i
[05:21] <Ng> bigfoot1: definitely not then, never used any voip stuff
[05:21] <bigfoot1> ng, okie dokie
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> Say, does anyone know how to make long returns for commands display one page at a time in the terminal, or how to scroll through them?  I'm looking for something similar to using dir with the -p switch in MS-DOS, for the things where a whole directory listing, help summary, or the like doesn't fit.
[05:22] <Ng> tonyyarusso: pipe your command into more, for example: ls -l | more
[05:22] <Ng> (or pipe it into less, which some feel is better than more. As they say, less is more ;)
[05:22] <NoUse> tonyyarusso or use less, because less is more
[05:22] <Ng> see
[05:23] <Ng> :)
[05:23] <brenner> heh, was waiting for that
[05:23] <Hero_boy> what is the 64bit Unbuntu version like?
[05:23] <Ng> Hero_boy: if you don't need any 32bit stuff running, fine
[05:23] <Ng> Hero_boy: if you need multimedia codecs and browser plugins, it's more pain than it's worth imho
[05:24] <odie5533> Whenever I try installing Sun Java it gives me a plugin not found error. Any ideas?
[05:24] <Hero_boy> oh really?
[05:24] <Hero_boy> so lets say the macromedia flash plugin, how would that work?
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> Ng: That works for seeing it all, but didn't seem greatly convenient because I was only able to advance one line at a time after that.  Can I advance through the more by page?
[05:25] <brenner> press page down?
[05:26] <zer0`> press space
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> zer0`: Bingo!  Thank you all, that fits what I was looking for perfectly.
[05:27] <odie5533> Can someone help me install Sun Java on Breezy 64bit?
[05:27] <zer0`> use less :P arrow keys to move 1 line and pageup/pagedown to move 1 page
[05:27] <Ng> tonyyarusso: yes, hit h for the keys it supports
[05:27] <brenner> *nod* and you can actually go backwards. :)
[05:29] <contalo> Hi
[05:29] <brenner> spambots?
[05:29] <Jowi> hi contalo
[05:30] <abydos> I never really realized how crippled slackware was until I tried to install it on a hardware raid
[05:30] <abydos> er, a software raid
[05:31] <ams_> how do I burn mp3 files with serpentine?
[05:32] <chrissturm> whats better? graveman or gnomebaker?
[05:33] <Jowi> ams_: I have not tried serpentine but if you are planning to burn a music cd from mp3/ogg i found that graveman is an excellent application.
[05:33] <ams_> does it have native mp3 support?
[05:33] <abydos> Jowi:  why bother with X, there are like 400 console-based and ncurses apps that do that
[05:34] <ams_> it looks like it does, thanks jowi
[05:34] <Jowi> ams_: it supports the same as your system does. so you need ogg for oggsupport etc
[05:34] <contalo> can be recompile kernel so that it does not use initrd.img?
[05:34] <abydos> chrissturm:  I've never had success with either, but that was with a somewhat-messed-up atapi burner
[05:34] <Hoxzer> how do I install .deb?
[05:35] <abydos> haven't tried it with my current borrowed SCSI burner
[05:35] <brenner> ubotu: tell Hoxzer about dpkg
[05:35] <contalo> that option of kernel I must select?
[05:35] <odie5533> Can anyone explain to me how to install sun java on 64 bit breezy?
[05:35] <ekimus> !mp3
[05:35] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:35] <abydos> I'd love to find out what's up with this ATAPI burner.
[05:35] <Jowi> abydos: well the console has its charms but some stuff are made to be graphical. cd burners and rippers are but one example where i preffer the gui over command line...
[05:36] <abydos> Jowi:  not the command line!  ncurses makes quite a capable frontend
[05:36] <Koven> !k3b
[05:36] <ubotu> somebody said k3b was "A sophisticated KDE cd burning application", its said to be the best burning GUI out there!
[05:36] <Hylas> What's the command to mount everything in fstab?
[05:36] <Juhaz> mount -a
[05:36] <Hylas> no, I'm sure there's another
[05:37] <pupeno> Hello.
[05:37] <Jowi> abydos: ncurses are fine for some stuff. but not all. i use ncurses for bt and most config stuff, but my fav burner is still graveman
[05:37] <pupeno> Anybody using madwifi drivers succesfully on (k)ubuntu ?
[05:37] <Hylas> -a doesn't include noauto mounts right?
[05:37] <abydos> Jowi:  you wouldn't probably say that if you had a console-only machine
[05:37] <auth00> I am trying to pvmove on standard ubuntu hoary kernel installation.. I get the error "mirror: Required device-mapper target(s) not detected in your kernel".. Do I have to recompile a custom kernel or is there a package or something I can install to make it work?
[05:37] <Jowi> abydos: lol, THAT you are perfectly right about!
[05:38] <abydos> Jowi:  my secondary machine (currently running gentoo) is a 166mhz P1 with 75MB of RAM... X will never run on that machine
[05:38] <rafx> anyone have a url to an article providing an overview of the differences between ubuntu and debian regarding the branches & releases? specifically wondering what ubuntu's recommended /etc/apt/* would look like for servers (not bleeding edge desktops)
[05:38] <brenner> Jowi: is graveman gtk2?
[05:38] <Jowi> brenner: yep
[05:38] <brenner> nice
[05:38] <brenner> first i've heard of this program....looks nifty from it's descrip
[05:39] <abydos> Jowi:  its saving grace is that it has no ATA devices but the CD-RW/DVD-ROM combo drive... I plan to make it a videolan server and networked CD burning machine
[05:39] <Jowi> abydos: X runs fine here on slow hardware, but gnome and kde is banned! i used to run DSL on a 64mb, 500mhz spare pc :)
[05:39] <brenner> rafx: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/ maybe?
[05:39] <abydos> as well as partially high-speed file server (since it does have 25GB of SCSI-2 disks in a RAID-0)
[05:39] <Jowi> abydos: neat
[05:40] <abydos> Jowi:  right now I'm second-guessing my decision to go gentoo on it though... ncurses takes FOREVER to emerge
[05:40] <Jowi> abydos: best distro for low performance pc i've ever tried is slackware
[05:40] <Paradoxx> is samba still the best way to share files and printers accross a network between windows and linux machines?
[05:41] <abydos> Jowi:  You wouldn't say that if you'd ever tried to install it onto a software raid, and with some other filesystem than ext2/3 or reiser
[05:41] <Jowi> abydos: can't you install ncurses binaries instead in gentoo?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Paradoxx,  i cant think of any other way .:P
[05:41] <Fanskapet> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=426472#post426472
[05:41] <Paradoxx> kk
[05:41] <Jowi> abydos: ah, never tried software raid with slack
[05:41] <abydos> Jowi:  sadly, gentoo is built as a source-based distro... it's somewhat crippled in that respect
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Paradoxx,  samba is very well done. :P
[05:41] <Fanskapet> ahh now i can use azureus in breezy.. at last!
[05:41] <Welly> right.. new question! I've got samba set up, and it kind of works :) works enough anyway.. I want to set up /var/www as a shared directory but not sure how
[05:41] <Paradoxx> !samba
[05:41] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:41] <auth00> Are there any lvm-users in here?
[05:42] <contalo> helpme
[05:42] <Welly> cheers :)
[05:42] <Paradoxx> Dr_Willis: kk m8, ty
[05:42] <Welly> i'll have a look there
[05:42] <Jowi> abydos: freebsd gives you option to either compile or install binaries. somehow i thought gentoo had that option as well. damn
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> contalo,  it helps if you ask a question.
[05:42] <abydos> Jowi:  and there are a couple 2.6 features that I find I cannot live without...  ATAPI burning... XFS/JFS support...
[05:42] <abydos> and as you well know, slack is still running 2.4
[05:43] <abydos> even in 10.2
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Jowi,  thers a gentoo variation that has premade packages. and for the initial  install you can get prebuild binaries for a quick setup.
[05:43] <Jowi> abydos: 2.6 work well on hardware that old otherwise?
[05:43] <abydos> oh yeh
[05:43] <abydos> I had it running debian sarge back before its ATA drives started to fail
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Jowi,  or at least thats what i hear.
[05:44] <rafx> brenner: thanks. but that page is outdated. it doesn't even mention Ubuntu for Servers and presents Ubuntu simply as a desktop distro. - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[05:44] <Jowi> Dr_Willis: i heard the same. i never gonna find out though since after i installed warty/breezy :)
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> Jowi,  :P
[05:45] <BockBilbo> hello
[05:45] <BockBilbo> in which file of the system can i find the processor frecuency?
[05:45] <stimpie> I just installed sun's jre, how do I update my alternatives so I can switch between gcj and sun?
[05:45] <abydos> There is Gentoo Reference Platform, but that requires starting from stage3 (all system binaries already made) and stage3 (at least on my current machine when I ran it) had some severe stability problems
[05:46] <Jowi> WAY offtopic: I need to do the dishes, brb
[05:46] <Paradoxx> Dr_Willis: intresting, for what i want to do (i.e file and printer sharing) that tutorial says  i may not even need samba. That i might b better off with NFS and cups...
[05:46] <abydos> further offtopic:  I need to go get breakfast and then take a shower and get ready for work
[05:46] <Jowi> BockBilbo: "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[05:46] <BockBilbo> thanks Jowi
[05:47] <Paradoxx> Dr_Willis: what do you think?
[05:48] <Stormx> I ordered my breexy cds yesterday. How long can i expect to wait before they arrive? I live in southern england
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Paradoxx,  well samba i thought worked with cups for a windows share.. or it MAY be able to do IPP, or other ways.
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Paradoxx,  i never did find a NFS client for windows that was free either.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Paradoxx,  HOWEVER you could use winscp to transfer files from linux/win  and not use samba
[05:49] <Stormx> hmm. anyone?
[05:50] <Paradoxx> Dr_Willis: i don't want to neccesarily transfer, just be able to for example access music and movies on my linux machine, asweel as transfering between machines
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Paradoxx,  samba will be what ya want then i belive. set up a music share  and let allt eh box's get to it and so forth.
[05:50] <Stormx> Is anyone else about?
[05:51] <Paradoxx> aight
[05:51] <slibs> hi
[05:51] <shale> i've got a disk i'm trying to mkfs vfat but the cmd keeps failing... any tips?
[05:52] <Ng> Stormx: you'll get them when they're done ;)
[05:52] <Welly> hmmm.. i'm looking at this samba wiki entry and it's not telling me how I can share a directory
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> shale,  you did fdisk the drive and set the partition to be of the vfat type?
[05:52] <Ng> Stormx: you'd need to email the guys that handle it and ask them though, I don't think there are any ShipIt representatives here
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> Welly, gnome has a littel front end/tool in the  menus for that..or a simple edit of the /etc/samba/* config files.
[05:53] <shale> Dr_Willis, thanks i'll try that first
[05:53] <Welly> ok.. i'll take a look there
[05:53] <Stormx> Thanks Ng
[05:53] <Stormx> ^_^
[05:54] <slibs> Welly: in nautilus just right click the menu you want to share, and choose share :P
[05:54] <slibs> Welly: and nautilus is that filemanager, if you dont know
[05:54] <Welly> slibs: trying to do it from the terminal :) otherwise means finding a spare keyboard/mouse/monitor for my linux box :P
[05:54] <slibs> Welly: oh, then you have to edit that what Dr_Willis said
[05:56] <wickedpuppy> Stormx, i heard they take about a fewe weeks
[05:57] <Inv_arp> whats the search string for apt to install glibc-devel package?
[05:57] <glenn_> hey guys, was wondering if any one here could help me with breezy repositories
[05:58] <Inv_arp> glenn_: err what type of help ,  wats the prob
[05:59] <shale> is there a command to show disks in the system that aren't formatted or partitioned?
[05:59] <Stormx> glenn_ there has been some problems.
[05:59] <glenn_> well do you have good working repositories for breezy cause mine has errors
[05:59] <Stormx> edit your repositories
[05:59] <Stormx> and remove the country code subdomains
[05:59] <glenn_> well do you have a good list
[05:59] <noodle_> shale: fdisk /dev/hda
[05:59] <noodle_> shale: then press p 'enter'
[05:59] <noodle_> shale: erm sudo that
[05:59] <glenn_> because some of them are not yet working
[06:00] <DShepherd> can grub reside in the MBR of your  first slave and still work?
[06:00] <shale> thx noodle... i was stupidly typing the wrong disk id :|
[06:00] <glenn_> hey inv_arp and storm could you give me some working repositories for breezy?
[06:01] <Inv_arp> shale: fdisk -l /dev/blah
[06:01] <Jowi> DShepherd: of course, but it will not be used. only the MBR on the primary master will be.
[06:01] <noodle_> shale: lol
[06:01] <DShepherd> Jowi: ok
[06:01] <Stormx> !repositories
[06:01] <ubotu> methinks sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[06:01] <Stormx> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[06:01] <glenn_> thanks ubotu
[06:01] <Stormx> and thanks stormx >:-E
[06:02] <glenn_> thanks guys
[06:03] <vnpaven> This is the link install Ubuntu without burning CD: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948&highlight=Install+harddisk
[06:05] <Inv_arp> bah...   libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu11 is to be installed....  what is this sayin here
[06:05] <Inv_arp> reinstall libc6
[06:06] <norrbaggen> hi what is good glxgears values?
[06:06] <norrbaggen> i get about 230.000
[06:06] <mwe> norrbaggen: it depends on your card
[06:06] <norrbaggen> got a ati mobile 9600
[06:06] <mwe> norrbaggen: then you dont have acceleration
[06:07] <norrbaggen> 3d?
[06:07] <mwe> yes
[06:07] <vnpaven> Can you give me the best Ubuntu or Fedora books?
[06:07] <Inv_arp> norrbaggen:  i get 16019 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3203.800 FPS
[06:07] <mwe> norrbaggen: glxinfo|grep direct
[06:07] <Jowi> two hundred and thirty thousand?
[06:07] <norrbaggen> mwe do you know a easy guide for a noob?
[06:07] <mwe> norrbaggen: that will tell you if you got direct rendering
[06:07] <norrbaggen> mkay
[06:07] <Jowi> norrbaggen: maybe you should read this link:
[06:07] <Jowi> !ati
[06:07] <ubotu> I heard ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:08] <showme> fd
[06:08] <billytwowilly> I appear to be having this debian bug manifesting in breezy: http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa-packages/2004/04/msg00235.html
[06:08] <mwe> norrbaggen: I don't know a good working guide. at least one that worked for me
[06:08] <billytwowilly> how would I fix it?
[06:09] <norrbaggen> il try thanks for the help
[06:09] <DShepherd> !tell DShepherd about ati
[06:09] <Tomcat_> billytwowilly: The same way the people on the list fixed it.
[06:09] <phoenix_atlantis> Does any of you know of an IMAP Proxy that can change the authentication information sent to the backend server (add a realm depending on the users login name)
[06:10] <shale> how do i make a service start at boot? i have the utility script in /etc/init.d but not sure what to put in /etc/rc?
[06:10] <billytwowilly> Tomcat_, That isn't readily obvious
[06:10] <billytwowilly> Tomcat_, I'm not a programmer.
[06:11] <Jowi> shale: best bet is to create a symlink to the script in init.d to rc2.d. the name should be S99scriptname
[06:11] <shale> thans Jowi
[06:11] <shale> ln -s ?
[06:11] <norrbaggen> how do i check my kernel version?
[06:11] <Jowi> shale: S99 = Start at place 99 (after all other scripts are done)
[06:11] <Jowi> shale: yep
[06:11] <mwe> shale: or man update-rc.d
[06:12] <shale> thank yous
[06:12] <el-stupido> anyone here play UT?
[06:13] <Tomcat_> billytwowilly: Well, the list says that the bug has been fixed in a newer version of the software... you have to get that version then, either by finding the appropriate package and praying that it installs, or by compiling yourself.
[06:13] <Tomcat_> billytwowilly: Or the hard way: By waiting till the next version of Ubuntu comes out.
[06:13] <Jowi> shale: oh, and you need to make it executable if its not already.
[06:13] <Jowi> it = the symlink
[06:14] <mwe> norrbaggen: uname -a will show the running kernel version
[06:14] <billytwowilly> Tomcat_, I figured it out. cdbs wasn't installed;)
[06:14] <billytwowilly> Tomcat_, thanks for the help though.
[06:14] <Tomcat_> billytwowilly: Good. :) Ubuntu uses a largely newer version of the mentioned lib, so it would be weird if the bug was there again. :>
[06:15] <billytwowilly> anyhoo, I'm off to school, cheers
[06:18] <kurtbec> anyone getting broken package errors when trying to install the mail portion of mozilla?
[06:18] <moshisushi> how do i change from gnome to kde?
[06:18] <ompaul> kurtbec, no, where are you getting that package from ?
[06:18] <ompaul> kurtbec, are you talking about thunderbird?
[06:19] <kurtbec> ompaul: if i do apt-get install mozilla-mailnews i get broken package errors.
[06:19] <kurtbec> ompaul: no, not thundebird
[06:19] <Jowi> moshisushi: install the package "kubuntu-desktop" and select kde as a session in gdm (where you log in)
[06:19] <Jowi> moshisushi: that is, if you haven't installed kde yet
[06:21] <kurtbec> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3342
[06:21] <ompaul> kurtbec, do this and then put the output in paste.ubuntulinux.nl however I would point out that
[06:21] <ompaul> kurtbec, :)
[06:22] <ompaul> kurtbec, as I was about to say mozilla is not the way forward according to the mozzie people they strongly suggest firebird and thunderbird (at least the last time I looked)
[06:22] <render> hi all
[06:23] <ompaul> kurtbec, why not just sudo apt-cache show mozilla-mailnews
[06:23] <kurtbec> ompaul: thats fine and all but there isn't any reason I shouldn't be able to use it.
[06:23] <ompaul> kurtbec, correct, however i don't do source packages unless I have to
[06:24] <ompaul> kurtbec, sorry misread that
[06:24] <odie5533> How do I install java on 64bit breezy?
[06:24] <eyaloren> hi
[06:25] <_pooh> hello, i just installed ubuntu and i can't su cuz i dont know the root password :S
[06:25] <_pooh> the setup didn't let me set it
[06:25] <odie5533> _pooh: use sudo
[06:25] <kurtbec> ompaul: seems like the package is there, but there is problem with dependency of the mozilla-browser package.
[06:25] <_pooh> odie5533, sudo asks for password as well :S
[06:26] <odie5533> its your plain username password
[06:26] <odie5533> whatever you used to login
[06:26] <Jowi> _pooh: there is no root password so to speak. "sudo su" will prompt you for your normal user password
[06:26] <BOFH80> anyone using a Kryo chipset with 2.6 ? :D
[06:26] <Jowi> ubotu: tell _pooh about sudoroot
[06:26] <Jowi> ubotu: tell _pooh about root
[06:26] <odie5533> ubotu: tell odie5533 about Java
[06:27] <ompaul> kurtbec, this is a standard breezy box - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3343 - so your requesting packages you should not be afics
[06:28] <_pooh> strange...well.. thanks for the info
[06:28] <ompaul> kurtbec, got something like backports enabled or some such
[06:28] <odie5533> Can someone please tell me how to install sun java?
[06:29] <ompaul> !tell odie5533 about java
[06:29] <kurtbec> ompaul: thats exactly what mine shows.
[06:29] <ompaul> odie5533, read the message that ubotu sent you
[06:29] <rain`> Anyone know of a ftp client that can recursively chmod files and folders?
[06:29] <ompaul> kurtbec, no it is not read the browser deps
[06:29] <ompaul> kurtbec, I need my glasses
[06:30] <ompaul> !lart me
[06:31] <shale_> i hope this isn't off topic, but: what do people like about kde over gnome and why is there a whole seperate install of ubuntu (kubuntu) for it?
[06:31] <odie5533> ompaul, when I try doing the fakroot make-jpkg command i get a no plugin error
[06:31] <smgil> Hi, do you know if a NVIDIA Quadro FX 1100 works with Ubuntu ?
[06:31] <kurtbec> ompaul: here is mine. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3344
[06:31] <smgil> I mean, with two outputs functionality
[06:31] <kurtbec> doesn't appear different to me
[06:32] <ompaul> odie5533, kurtbec just trying to install atm
[06:32] <ompaul>  kurtbec just trying to install atm
[06:32] <ompaul> odie5533, having a look at those instructions now
[06:32] <kurtbec> i see.
[06:32] <Jowi> smgil: there should be a list here... ummm...
[06:32] <Jowi> !nvidia
[06:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:32] <hendrik> do somebody know what the meaning is of this sentence i don't know what an instance is
[06:32] <Nick_Hill> !esd
[06:32] <Jowi> but i'm not sure if the wiki is down at the moment...
[06:33] <odie5533> ompaul, I tryed the instructions. However, I get an error
[06:33] <hendrik> i try to install wireless internet on my acer aspire 1500 and i don't know this sentence This will open a text editor. Open every file in the directory /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/ and replace every instance of RadioState|1 with RadioState|0
[06:33] <lokm> hi all... I have problem when I try compile PCRE... terminal everytime writes me /root/pcre-6.3/configure
[06:33] <lokm> checking for gcc... gcc
[06:33] <lokm> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:33] <lokm> See `config.log' for more details.
[06:34] <sig> whats a good alternative to xmms ?
[06:34] <lokm> can anyone help pls?
[06:34] <Jowi> sig: beep media player is similar to xmms
[06:34] <sig> hmm
[06:34] <ompaul> kurtbec, it installed okay for me
[06:34] <stephen2> Rhythmbox is built to look like iTunes.
[06:34] <ompaul> kurtbec, what repos have you got enabled?
[06:34] <Jowi> sig: rhythmbox is neater though
[06:35] <Jowi> stephen2: :)
[06:35] <stephen2> My only problem is that I cant remember what I did to get Rhythmbox to read WMA's
[06:35] <kurtbec> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3345
[06:35] <Jowi> stephen2: should be a gstreamer plugin
[06:36] <ompaul> odie5533, please paste the command you were trying in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:37] <odie5533> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3346
[06:37] <kurtbec> ompaul: you catch my link up there?
[06:37] <ompaul> kurtbec, yes and I asked what repos have you got enabled?
[06:38] <moshisushi> can i atp-get KDE?
[06:38] <immolo> heya, I was wondering what the best way to compile a nitro patched kernel on ubuntu would be?
[06:38] <moshisushi> apt-get
[06:38] <mahangu> moshisushi, yes
[06:38] <moshisushi> how?
[06:38] <Jowi> moshisushi: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:38] <kurtbec> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3345
[06:38] <hendrik> can somebody help me with this i try to install wireless internet on my acer aspire 1500 and i don't know this sentence This will open a text editor. Open every file in the directory /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/ and replace every instance of RadioState|1 with RadioState|0
[06:38] <kurtbec> ompaul: that is my apt sources
[06:38] <moshisushi> thnx
[06:38] <Fanskapet> hmm what vnc-server would you recomend?
[06:38] <hendrik> i don't know what to do
[06:39] <immolo> Fanskapet- tightvnc
[06:39] <Fanskapet> if you want a server that can run higher resolutions like 1024x768 without having a monitor attached
[06:39] <Fanskapet> ahh okey
[06:39] <Fanskapet> immolo: got it working in breezy?
[06:39] <hendrik> can somebody help me please
[06:39] <immolo> I don't use ubuntu, I'm only after help as I put on a friends pc
[06:40] <hendrik> with this i try to install wireless internet on my acer aspire 1500 and i don't know this sentence This will open a text editor. Open every file in the directory /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/ and replace every instance of RadioState|1 with RadioState|0
[06:40] <hendrik> please
[06:40] <hendrik> how do i install it on my wiress pc
[06:40] <ompaul> kurtbec, ooch - I am at a loss I could only say sudo apt-get update  and see if that helps -  no idea other than that - but your machine is looking for different software to me I installed it okay
[06:40] <Fanskapet> hummz
[06:41] <odie5533> ompaul: any ideas?
[06:41] <ompaul> odie5533, just a moment please
[06:41] <Fanskapet> immolo: where is the configfile for tightvnc?
[06:41] <kurtbec> ompaul: thanks for trying.  already did the update so I don't know.
[06:42] <hendrik> i have everything only the last piece and that is that one
[06:43] <ompaul> kurtbec, well something is broken - might be worth pointing it at a different repo for an update
[06:43] <ompaul> kurtbec, then change back
[06:43] <stephen2> So does anyone know how to change the color of the desktop icon font?
[06:43] <stephen2> The fonts dialogue doesnt give me a color option
[06:44] <ompaul> odie5533, can you put in the commands before that and an ls -al of the package you downloaded please
[06:44] <Transporter_> Anyone know how I can use my iPod with ubuntu ?
[06:44] <Transporter_> Anyone know how I can use my iPod with ubuntu ?
[06:44] <Transporter_> !ipod
[06:44] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[06:44] <immolo> Fanskapet-  start a server then it will be in .vnc of your home directory
[06:45] <_dockane_> is there any way to install the last version of xnview on a hoary system  ?
[06:45] <ompaul> stephen2, I could be wrong but that is in the system - preferences - theme
[06:45] <hendrik> can somebody help me with this i don' t know what to do
[06:46] <hendrik>  RadioState|1 with RadioState|0
[06:46] <hendrik> can somebody help me with installing wifi on my acer aspire 1500
[06:47] <hendrik> i do som many things and nothing really helps
[06:47] <vengeful> kendrik, is the wireless card detected?
[06:47] <hendrik> please
[06:47] <vengeful> hendrik*
[06:47] <hendrik> no
[06:47] <Ekibyougami> good morning fellow penguins
[06:47] <odie5533> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3347
[06:47] <vengeful> nothing at all in networking?
[06:47] <hendrik> neti2220 is detected
[06:47] <pirre> hendrik: Have you read this howto? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:47] <Jowi> hendrik: i am no wifi wizard but have you checked this link?
[06:47] <Jowi> !wifi
[06:47] <ubotu> I heard wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:48] <pirre> heh
[06:48] <kurtbec> ompaul: something interesting.  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3348
[06:49] <vengeful> hendrik, wep or wpa?
[06:49] <onur> hello, i have installed kubuntu desktop over ubuntu. I logged in from kubuntu once, now i can not log in from gnome. It crashes at the beginning
[06:50] <onur> what can i do  ?
[06:50] <immolo> whats the repository for breezy extras? http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras?
[06:50] <Transporter_> Anyone know how I can use my iPod with ubuntu ?
[06:50] <ompaul> odie5533, you have jdk you should have jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin  JRE :-) that might just have something to do the problem :-)
[06:50] <Ekibyougami> the backprots dont work yet
[06:51] <eruin> Transporter_, use rhythmbox (which comes with breezy) or fetch banshee
[06:51] <Ekibyougami> !tell immolo about repos
[06:51] <odie5533> ompaul, how do I install the jdk then?
[06:51] <eruin> banshee and gtkpod should both be able to upload songs to the ipod, while rbox is readonly basic support
[06:51] <Transporter_> eruin: i use Hoary
[06:51] <onur> How can i recover my system ?
[06:51] <Transporter_> eruin: is there a program for hoary?
[06:51] <eruin> Transporter_, then I suggest you upgrade :)
[06:51] <ompaul> odie5533, dono
[06:51] <immolo> Thanks Ekibyougami
[06:51] <Transporter_> eruin: how
[06:51] <eruin> Transporter_, gtkpod probably
[06:51] <Ekibyougami> welcome
[06:52] <Transporter_> eruin: will it be the same for iPod NANO ?
[06:52] <ompaul> odie5533, read all the data that ubotu sent you and maybe in there
[06:52] <odie5533> in the wiki it said you could replace the jre with the jdk
[06:52] <eruin> Transporter_, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , then replace every occurrence of hoary with breezy - then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:52] <eruin> Transporter_, well, mine works fine in breezy - didn't have it while I still used hoary
[06:52] <hendrik> wep
[06:52] <Transporter_> eruin: do you have a ipod nano?
[06:52] <eruin> yep
[06:52] <eruin> a pretty black one ;)
[06:52] <Transporter_> eruin: cool me too
[06:53] <Transporter_> eruin: i got white
[06:53] <Transporter_> theyre cool as aint they?
[06:53] <hendrik> vengeful wep
[06:53] <Transporter_> lovely and small
[06:53] <vengeful> strange hendrik, should just work out of the box
[06:53] <vengeful> breezy?
[06:53] <Transporter_> eruin: you online tommorow?
[06:53] <eruin> hell yea;) - let's switch when we get tired of our colour :P
[06:53] <ompaul> kurtbec, emm my box only has Installed: 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2 Candidate: 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2
[06:53] <hendrik> yes breezy badger
[06:53] <eruin> Transporter_, probably... not sure.. I'm in deep conflict with my idiotic ISP
[06:53] <vengeful> works in windows?
[06:53] <Transporter_> eruin: cool, im gona upgrade tomorow,
[06:53] <Transporter_> i got a sony vaio laptop :P
[06:53] <onur> please help me out
[06:53] <Transporter_> bbl cyaz
[06:53] <Transporter_> thanks eruin
[06:53] <eruin> np ;)
[06:54] <adjacent> when i brose to a site with certain flash stuff, flash seems to go unresponsive, then closing the tab or window in firefox causes firefox to hang. im breezy, with latest updates, firefox, and nonfree plugin.
[06:54] <hendrik> yes i install ndiswrapper and so on but i don't know the meaning of this manual last sentence with radio i don't know it
[06:54] <kurtbec> ompaul: its getting the other from breezy-update
[06:54] <kurtbec> ompaul: do you have the breezy-updates in your apt sources
[06:55] <vengeful> wouldnt detect anything without ndiswrapper?
[06:56] <ompaul> kurtbec, let me look :)
[06:56] <hendrik> wait i will give you the last sentence and i don't know the meaning of it
[06:56] <vengeful> oki
[06:56] <cjdavis> where should i be looking for docs on the AMD64 port of ubuntu? ie, setting up chroot enviroment, etc
[06:57] <pequatre> hello. any xfce user here ? i need to have xfce autolaunch some stuff. and /Desktop/Autostart won't work
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> pequatre,  i thought xfce  had a 'session' management feature where you ran the stuff.. then saved the session,.
[06:58] <hendrik> it is in french Pour que le driver soit automatiquement charg au dmarrage,diter le fichier /etc/modules et ajouter ndiswrapper  la fin de ce dernier.
[06:58] <pequatre> Dr_Willis, there's no option for starting programs in it (as opposed to the Gsm
[06:58] <vengeful> err i dont know french heh
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> pequatre,  hmm.. not sure then. check the xfce docs/manual - it may be looking in some other place.. Im pretty sure it SHOULD be looking in autostart
[06:59] <pequatre> Dr_Willis,  wait a sec?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> pequatre,  but not Desktop/Autostart  - /home/username/autostart (or somthing) i think
[06:59] <pequatre> Dr_Willis,  wait a sec.
[07:00] <hendrik> or this sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile
[07:00] <ompaul> kurtbec, I do
[07:01] <ompaul> kurtbec, sorry I need to go and get the specs its too hard to read :)
[07:01] <hendrik> vengeful
[07:01] <pequatre> Dr_Willis, i've just read somewhere that xfce won't look into Autotart if xfce4-session is loaded. it is :(
[07:01] <hendrik> that is a big problem for me i don't know what to do with it
[07:01] <ekimus> i just _love_ netcat
[07:01] <kjon> HELP!... Ubuntu ran e2fsck over my ext3 partition. Now I have a lot of zip files under the lost+found directory. I can't open these files... what does that mean???
[07:01] <vengeful> not sure to be honest...never had to go to that much trouble to get wireless working
[07:02] <Xtortr> hello I am having an issue with sound looping in breezy with a es1371 AudioPCI-97 sound card
[07:02] <pequatre> hendrik, i can help u with french stuff ...
[07:02] <kurtbec> ompaul: no problem
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> pequatre,  ahh.. so some how it has its own session managerment - OR it uses autostart
[07:02] <kjon> All my data seems to be intact, but... how can I ensure myself?
[07:02] <pequatre> Dr_Willis, it seems like the /Autostart stuff is deprecated
[07:03] <mcrawfor> on my breezy install, the framebuffer boot screen goes away during "Creating initial device nodes..." which is rather early during the boot process...
[07:03] <mcrawfor> kinda frustrating - is there anything I can do about that?
[07:03] <ompaul> kurtbec, I have updates there
[07:03] <kjon> any help...
[07:03] <hendrik> pePour que le driver soit automatiquement charg au dmarrage,diter le fichier /etc/modules et ajouter ndiswrapper  la fin de ce dernier.quatre what is the meaning of  this
[07:04] <hendrik> pequatre do you know the meaning of this
[07:04] <pequatre> hendrik, a sec...
[07:04] <pequatre> YES :)
[07:04] <qt2> ugh, is there a breezy backports that actually works?
[07:05] <pequatre> let me translate
[07:05] <pequatre> for the driver to be automatically loaded at startup...
[07:05] <b0uncer> hendrik, "le driver" = "car driver", "autimatiquement" = "automatical weapon", "charg" = "reloading firearms", " la fin" = "finish" ...you need to know more?
[07:05] <pequatre> edit the file /etc/modules and add ndiswrapper at the end
[07:05] <pequatre> that's it
[07:06] <kjon> b0uncer: Sounds like a war declaration....
[07:06] <b0uncer> any idea how I can change my locales to iso-8859-15 or fi_FI@euro ?
[07:06] <b0uncer> locale -a only gives me utf8...
[07:06] <b0uncer> kjon, no, really? :D
[07:06] <kjon> My whole ext3fs is messed up... I need help!
[07:06] <Xtortr> hello I am having an issue with sound looping in breezy with a es1371 AudioPCI-97 sound card, how do I fix this?
[07:06] <kjon> b0uncer: XD
[07:07] <qt2> !ubotu tell me about breezy backports
[07:07] <qt2> bah, figures, doesnt work
[07:08] <Juhaz> b0uncer, dpkg-reconfigure locales. but why?
[07:08] <pequatre> Dr_Willis, in /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc : "# Everything below here ONLY gets executed if you are NOT using xfce4-session
[07:08] <pequatre> # (Xfce's session manager).  If you are using the session manager, everything
[07:08] <pequatre> # below is handled by it, and the code below is not executed at all. "
[07:08] <pequatre> and below is the Autostart stuff.
[07:08] <odie5533> is it just me or are a lot of things uncompatible on the amd64 breezy install?
[07:08] <Jowi> ubotu: tell qt2 about backports
[07:08] <b0uncer> Juhaz, what "why"? because I can't use some apps like irssi :) scandinavian letters won't display correctly
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> pequatre,  the joys of dissecting linux script. :P  its how ya learn all the good stuff.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> pequatre,  make a different xfce gdm entry that does the autostart and not the xfce-session perhaps.
[07:09] <qt2> Jowi: ah, and what about extras?
[07:10] <b0uncer> Juhaz, also, do you have any idea why my pppoe-connection won't start at boot like it used to (I've figured out eth0 isn't started correctly anymore)?
[07:10] <Ekibyougami> !tell qt2 about repos
[07:11] <Xtortr> sound loops on boot untill I kill the question.wav process, I have not had this problem with other linux distros on this box
[07:11] <Juhaz> b0uncer, the last (.10-rc5) irssi should have some support for charset conversions, as do most other apps that should deal with the primitive non-unicode windows world out there :)
[07:11] <Jowi> qt2: no idea. i just upgraded to breezy yesterday :)
[07:11] <Juhaz> b0uncer, alas, no idea about pppoe
[07:11] <crimsun> Xtortr: if you're using snd-via82xx, that's a known-issue. Search bugzilla for the solution.
[07:11] <odie5533> Whats the difference between the Blackdown and Sun JVM's?
[07:12] <Jowi> i have no idea how to ear
[07:12] <b0uncer> Juhaz, ok thanks..guess I have to live with a script for some time :)
[07:12] <b0uncer> and it's not primitive, I'd say it's primitive not to support other locales too
[07:13] <cjdavis> odie5533: yes, seems like there are some differences / problems with amd64. I'm trying to find some info on it now
[07:13] <skagab> hello i have problem with my notebook touchpad
[07:13] <b0uncer> skagab, me too, I don't have one :<
[07:13] <skagab> haha ok
[07:13] <skagab> no but seriously, it
[07:13] <b0uncer> what's the problem?
[07:13] <skagab> s very fast
[07:13] <Juhaz> having to have locales just to be able to see characters is primitive when there is one that supports them all
[07:13] <skagab> cursor movement is fast as hell
[07:13] <qt2> so... theoretically, i shoulnt have backports because i've got the newest stuff, since i'm running the newest release?
[07:14] <skagab> and i ca seem to set it up
[07:14] <b0uncer> Juhaz, it's no good supporting heaven even, if it can't be _used_ without magic :)
[07:14] <cjdavis> Anyone have a good resource for AMD64 on ubuntu?
[07:14] <b0uncer> skagab, how about mouse settings?
[07:14] <b0uncer> sped
[07:14] <b0uncer> speed
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> cjdavis,  the ubuntu wiki/forums
[07:15] <skagab> Mouse in System Settings doesnt have a speed setting
[07:16] <pequatre> Dr_Willis, thx, i'll look into it
[07:16] <ulisse> hello tribe!
[07:16] <ecobuntu> does anyone know if there is a way that i can edit the settings in the update-manager to show terminal progress by default?
[07:16] <B_166-ER-X> is there a way to repair the breezy bug that makes him unable to automount Cd/dvd's ?   there is a clue here : http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17607     but i have to do it after every reboot....
[07:18] <cjdavis> Dr_Willis, thank you. I've been looking through there, and not found a good way to get a summary of info on amd64 on ubuntu
[07:18] <Ekibyougami> ack, bash.org wont load
[07:19] <cjdavis> Dr_Willis: is there a good keyword I should be using for searches other than AMD64?
[07:19] <B_166-ER-X> Ekibyougami,  http://qdb.us/
[07:19] <Pwn> hello
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> cjdavis,  let me say this.. :P i got  64bit machines.. and i run the 32 bit version of ubuntu at this time. :P lol.. too many little issues
[07:19] <Pwn> i need some help
[07:19] <ulisse> is there someone using an external USB soundblaster Live! 24 ?
[07:19] <ulisse> with breezy
[07:19] <Pwn> i need help
[07:19] <skagab> how do i set mouse speed??
[07:19] <skagab> i can find it
[07:19] <cjdavis> Dr_Willis: thats exactly what i needed to hear
[07:19] <Pwn> uhhh
[07:20] <skagab> can't
[07:20] <stephen2> Bah. Can anyone help me change the color of the font on the desktop icons?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> cjdavis,  depends on your needs really. may not affect you at all.
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> stephans,  hmm.. i reacall someone else trying to do that once. not sure there is a way. :P
[07:21] <Pwn> i downloaded the ubuntu live cd  and burned it and its not working HELP please
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> stephans,  the #GNOME guys will know i bet.
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> Pwn,  ceck the md5 sum for a start on the iso file
[07:21] <cjdavis> Dr_Willis: mostly the issues appear to be with multimedia and web plugins... I'm not doing heavy processing, so I assume performance is basically the same with 32 or 64 bit systems?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> Pwn,  and how did you burn it?
[07:21] <Pwn> i used a cd burner
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> cjdavis,  proberly is.  I rarely worry about it.
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> Pwn,  wow... i never would of guessed... what PROGRAM did you use. :P
[07:22] <Der_Meister> hallo
[07:22] <uli> y0
[07:22] <Pwn> well i dono i just draged and droped onto the blank cd and pressed write these to cd
[07:22] <uli> does anyone know?
[07:22] <cjdavis> Dr_Willis: can I run 32 / 64 from the same partition, or should I just make a new installation for 32 bit?
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> cjdavis,  i just use all 32bit.
[07:23] <Der_Meister> alguien que hable espaol ?
[07:23] <Der_Meister> o castellano ?
[07:23] <Der_Meister> jeje
[07:23] <uli> i mean: does anyone know something about temperature, sensors, fanspeeds, etc.?
[07:23] <uli> in linux
[07:23] <uli> and how to control them
[07:23] <cjdavis> Dr_Willis: oh well, I'll just reinstall. Many thanks!
[07:23] <Der_Meister> gkrellms
[07:23] <Pwn> probly microsoft did it i think microsoft has a cd burner wizard
[07:23] <ulisse> uli, try to search for gkrellm
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> uli,  'lm-sensors' is the main tool that others tools use to get the info.
[07:23] <Der_Meister> exact
[07:24] <Pwn> ?
[07:24] <ompaul> burn an image not a file
[07:24] <Pwn> umm
[07:24] <dryice> hi, does anybody knows how to specify in gnome the windows workgroup?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> Pwn,  check the cdrom - see whats On it.. if you got whatever.iso   - then go get a real progam to burn the iso file
[07:24] <uli> i have this gkrellm, and it works goood. it shows everything right. fanspeed, temperature, cpu.. etc.
[07:24] <uli> BUT
[07:24] <fitz> while using gaim I have noticed that peoples away messages dont get updated when holding my mouse over there im names, it will only update if I hit the get user info button
[07:24] <Fanskapet> hmm that's odd i can't get the vnc-server up and running
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> Pwn,  i reccomend "burn at once' its free. and small
[07:24] <fitz> anyone else notice this?
[07:24] <uli> is it possible to manually adjust the fanspeed?
[07:24] <Der_Meister> Sytem-Admin-Network
[07:24] <uli> it was at least with the programm "speedfan" in windows
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> uli,  i think that may depend a great deal on the motherboard
[07:24] <Fanskapet> dryice: select shared folders or whatever it's called in the admin network menu
[07:25] <Xtortr> hello I am having an issue with sound looping in breezy with a es1371 AudioPCI-97 sound card, how do I fix this? system does not hang, everything else works I just hear the drum over and over untill I kill the question.wav process
[07:25] <Pwn> yep
[07:25] <Pwn> i have an iso on the cd
[07:25] <uli> yeah, exactly w Dr_Willis. but my motherboard is able to do thi si know from this speedfan program. now i'm lookin gfor such one in linux
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> Pwn,  you just made a coaster. :P
[07:25] <ulisse> how can I enable more than a channel in alsamixer for an usb soundcard?
[07:26] <Pwn> a coaster?
[07:26] <dryice> Fanskapet, ok I'll try
[07:26] <Der_Meister> uilsse, especify the souncard
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> uli,  first hit i go ton google... -->  https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-June/msg00191.html
[07:26] <Der_Meister> model, mark
[07:26] <Pwn> what program should i use to burn this  onto a cd for live cd
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> uli,  IF your apci stuff on the mb is supported properly
[07:26] <theosk> Hi, I have a problem with firefox and local php server, anyone could help?
[07:27] <uli> it is supported well, THANK you Dr_Willis, ill have a try on this and report back
[07:27] <Pwn> what program should i use to burn it
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> uli,  it pays to google. :P
[07:27] <Pwn> do i need to put an image on it or an iso
[07:28] <uli> lol, yes i know, but i just didn't find this link with my searches^^
[07:28] <ulisse> Pwn, try to right-click the file and see if there is an option to write image to cd...
[07:28] <theosk> Firefox doesn't open my local PHP files, instead of ir, it tries to download them, but old Mozilla does open them normally.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Pwn,  i said earlier get 'burn at once' its a good free tool
[07:28] <Pwn> ok
[07:28] <Pwn> butn at once il use that
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> XP by default has no way to burn an .iso that i know of
[07:28] <Der_Meister> does anyone know if DMA access on cdrom could damage it ?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> http://www.burnatonce.com/index.htm?downloads
[07:29] <Der_Meister> is it dangerous ?
[07:29] <Pwn> thanks
[07:30] <Pwn> i hope it works
[07:30] <fitz> I am having a problem when trying to use "Places->Connect to servers" after I enter in all my details and hit connect nothing happens
[07:31] <fitz> yet when I go into bluefish and hit open file I can see my network drive in the open file dialog window
[07:31] <Pwn> nice program
[07:31] <Pwn> i like it
[07:31] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone here running another vnc-server than the inbuilt?
[07:33] <Xtortr> sound loops still, I have looked into all possible IRQ issues, it looks like a driver issue to me?
[07:33] <sunshine> can breezy download tar.gz files
[07:33] <hendrik> do somebody know how install a wifi because i can't do it
[07:33] <hendrik> on an acer aspire 1500
[07:34] <Pwn> it takes a while to write
[07:34] <Pwn> Thankyou for the help
[07:34] <theosk> hendrik
[07:34] <Pwn> il be back if it doesent work
[07:34] <hendrik> yes
[07:34] <theosk> do you have a WEP?
[07:34] <hendrik>  yes i have wep
[07:34] <rysiek> hi all
[07:34] <sunshine> can breezy download tar.gz files
[07:35] <theosk> installing a wifi with a WEP key is really tough for newbies as me
[07:35] <rysiek> does anybody have an idea how to make GRUB display a "nice grafical" menu? Like LILO with a bgimage
[07:35] <rysiek> ?
[07:35] <theosk> you have to edit a config file in /etc/network/
[07:36] <wdh> sunshine, you dont have to repeat you question.. someone will answer eventually..
[07:36] <theosk> because the gnome wizard does not always work
[07:36] <hendrik> how do i do that
[07:36] <OneSeventeen> where can I find a list of available packages for Breezy?
[07:36] <wdh> sunshine, and yes.. you can download any file, regardless of its extention
[07:36] <wdh> OneSeventeen, packages.ubuntu.com iirc
[07:36] <OneSeventeen> wdh: thanks!
[07:37] <wdh> OneSeventeen, or you could look in synaptic package manager
[07:37] <theosk> by console, type: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[07:37] <mahangu> anybody have any luck playing .mp4 on ubuntu?
[07:37] <mahangu> my files play in totem, mplayer
[07:37] <mahangu> but no audio
[07:37] <mahangu> audio is fine for other file types
[07:38] <hendrik> yes a map comes open but nothing else
[07:38] <hendrik> what is next
[07:38] <wdh> rysiek, i recall that it's just a matter of one line in the configfile.. so i guess you could google for that.. good luck
[07:38] <Koven> mahangu: apt-get install xmms-mp4
[07:38] <theosk> so you must enter your wifi data in that file
[07:38] <ubuntu> hola
[07:38] <ubuntu> hay alguien
[07:39] <ubuntu> que hable
[07:39] <ubuntu> espaol
[07:39] <mahangu> Koven, i did
[07:39] <Koven> ubuntu: #ubuntu-es
[07:39] <hendrik> what do you mean with wifi data
[07:39] <theosk> if it does not work, try disabling your WEP first to check if it works
[07:39] <theosk> with data I mean
[07:39] <theosk> your IP, gateway, DNS and this stuff
[07:39] <el-stupido> How can I uninstall a game I have installed previously?
[07:39] <rysiek> wdh: man, I am so lazy ;) thx
[07:39] <theosk> provided by the company :P
[07:39] <Koven> mahangu: apt-cache search mp4
[07:39] <mahangu> Koven, ive got all those files
[07:40] <theosk> ubuntu, yo hablo espaol
[07:40] <mahangu> as i said, the video plays fine
[07:40] <Koven> and check all that packages to be installed
[07:40] <mahangu> Koven, syntax?
[07:40] <el-stupido> How can I uninstall a game I have installed previously?
[07:40] <mahangu> apt-get depend xmms-mp4?
[07:40] <hendrik> i have wep on my computer but i think i haven't install my wireless internet
[07:40] <uli> hmmm, damn it doesn change anything, if i make this fanspeed command :(...
[07:40] <theosk> ?
[07:41] <theosk> the wep is the router password
[07:41] <theosk> (normally)
[07:41] <Jowi> sunshine: tar.gz is a compressed file. you can download it as you download any other file and extract it with file-roller. does that answer your question?
[07:41] <Koven> mahangu: if you have everything installed on i really don't know what to tell you
[07:41] <theosk> so you can check some info about your router by doing telnet to your router IP (carefully)
[07:42] <el-stupido> How can I uninstall a game I have installed previously?
[07:42] <mahangu> Koven, how can i check dependencies?
[07:42] <Jowi> el-stupido: how did you install it?
[07:42] <hendrik> yes but first i must install a driver i have install it but only the last part i don't know the meaning and what to do for conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf; do
[07:42] <hendrik> sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile
[07:43] <Koven> mahangu: I dont know :(
[07:43] <Koven> !dependencies
[07:43] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Koven
[07:44] <el-stupido> Jowi: I installed Unreal Tournament GOTY using the Loki Linux Installer
[07:44] <theosk> i see, then it depends on the driver itself, so it can have a unique install method
[07:44] <Jowi> el-stupido: ah, i c. The Loki installer should have an uninstallation option.
[07:45] <OneSeventeen> From http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/ it looks like php5 is supported under apache2, but I can't find mod-ssl for apache2... does this mean php5 and ssl on Breezy Badger is not possible?  (I'm only interested in supported software, not backports and the like)
[07:45] <el-stupido> Jowi: it doesnt.. only has Begin Install option
[07:45] <Jowi> el-stupido: http://www.lokigames.com/development/loki_uninstall.php3
[07:45] <DocTomoe> how would you downgrade your system?
[07:46] <el-stupido> Jowi: ??
[07:46] <Jowi> el-stupido: the loki uninstaller. what you asked for. check the link.
[07:46] <theosk> DocTomoe: wich part of the system do you want to downgrade?
[07:46] <Jowi> el-stupido: "The Loki Uninstall Tool is a tool written by Loki Software, Inc., designed to remove products and components installed with their setup and patch tools."
[07:46] <Jowi> :)
[07:47] <theosk> Jowi: unvaluable info :D
[07:47] <DocTomoe> theosk: kde 3.5beta2 ... to beta1. I already have removed the beta2 reps.
[07:47] <DocTomoe> I am aware of #kubuntu, but this is kind of an universial question, isn't it?
[07:48] <uli> oke more scripts to come... ill google on^^
[07:48] <hendrik> what must i do and what is the meaning
[07:48] <el-stupido> Jowi: thanx found an uninstaller hope it works
[07:48] <Jowi> el-stupido: me too, since i never used any of lokis products :)
[07:49] <Nick_Hill> I have checked ubotu's suggestions with ESD, follwed the suggestions of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 but am having trouble with the sound system. I initially made the changes as suggested, as audacity failed to connect to the sound system.
[07:49] <Kimppa> hello, how can I check the size each subfolder (only first level) is in a folder? du -h would otherwise work, but I gives me the size of everything, I just want the folder size of first level subfolders
[07:49] <onur> Hello my Gnome has crashed, i need to recover it. What can i do ?
[07:49] <Nick_Hill> After following the suggestions, programs such as the recording level control fail to function.
[07:50] <el-stupido> Jowi: nah.. it had 2 uninstallers both wont work.. unexpected syntax error
[07:50] <Kimppa> onur: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:50] <onur> Kimppa: i mean i can start the gnome but it always crashes while starting
[07:50] <Kimppa> oh..
[07:51] <onur> this happened after i installed kubuntu-desktop
[07:51] <onur> i am just trying to recover my system
[07:51] <khad> If anyone knows anything about icon themes, I have a few questions.
[07:51] <Jowi> el-stupido: ouch, sound like a good opportunity for you to write Loki an email
[07:52] <rick_> Hello all, I am wondering if anyone can help me with mounting NTFS drive using the disk manager in ubuntu?
[07:52] <rick_> I am clicking enable, but nothing happens
[07:53] <b0uncer> I'm not sure whether ubuntu has ntfs support enabled
[07:53] <onur> how can i freshly install X and gnome, so that i can recover my system
[07:53] <b0uncer> or not
[07:53] <DocTomoe> rick_: is your kernel ntfs-enabled?
[07:53] <rick_> How can I tell?
[07:53] <rick_> it recognizes the drive as windows ntfs
[07:53] <b0uncer> onur, reinstall?
[07:53] <rick_> or partition i should say
[07:53] <petterah> have the norwegian ubuntu servers been comprimized?
[07:53] <onur> b0uncer: yeah
[07:53] <petterah> i get an gpg error
[07:54] <onur> b0uncer: cause i can not get into X anymore
[07:54] <khad> Or... can someone suggest a better place to talk to folks about GNOME icon themes devel?
[07:54] <petterah> when i change my sources.list to uk server, its ok
[07:54] <b0uncer> onur, what's your problem/error msg?
[07:54] <b0uncer> problem with Xorg.conf?
[07:54] <rick_> I just downloaded ubuntu last night using cd image, so is that one ntfs enabled?
[07:54] <onur> b0uncer: in deed everything was working well. Then i installed kubuntu-desktop, next time i tried to log in through gnome. it started crashing everytime
[07:55] <b0uncer> odd :o
[07:55] <Jowi> khad: #gnome maybe a good place to start
[07:55] <onur> b0uncer: currently it gives out no error message but crashes the gnome just after the initial loading
[07:55] <b0uncer> ok
[07:55] <WinZ> Help me please! How to make .deb if I have a source?
[07:55] <b0uncer> what about apt-getting it again?
[07:55] <onur> b0uncer: so currently i am trying to figure out a way to recover it. But i suppose i could get in with KDE
[07:56] <b0uncer> I'm quite newbie with apt-get, but I'd figure reinstalling means removing then installing again :)
[07:56] <b0uncer> onur, try to get some error message out
[07:56] <b0uncer> something in /var/log/ perhaps
[07:56] <wired> Hi All
[07:56] <b0uncer> wired, hi
[07:56] <onur> b0uncer: i have tried this: apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop, apt-get remove  ubuntu-desktop, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, it didn't work
[07:57] <BooZee> hello. is there a way to install no-ip.org client with the apt-get or synaptic way? so it could be updated when there are updates for it ?
[07:57] <b0uncer> hmm..
[07:57] <rick_> Can anyone help me with mounting NTFS drive in breezy
[07:57] <wired> I have a problem with Breezy. When I try to reboot the system it get's to the point where it says "umount: tmpfs busy" and then it just hangs! I have to hard reboot it after that
[07:57] <wired> can anyone help?
[07:58] <onur> b0uncer: i can get in with KDE
[07:58] <b0uncer> onur, so your /var/log does not contain any logfile that might give a clue on what gnome crashes on?
[07:58] <Jowi> BooZee: sudo apt-get install no-ip
[07:58] <Jowi> !info no-ip
[07:58] <ubotu> no-ip: (A second-generation Linux client for dynamic DNS service), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1.1-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 128 kB
[07:58] <onur> b0uncer: hold on i am checkin
[07:58] <Xtortr> f-the sound looping issue I have tried everything I could find online to resolve this issue for over 5 hours now, Ubuntu is not polished enough in my opinion, back to Fedora for me
[07:59] <wired> has anyone experienced the same problem as I have?
[08:00] <b0uncer> onur, if you use GDM check out /var/log/gdm/whateverthelogfileis
[08:00] <b0uncer> I guess KDM has something alike
[08:00] <onur> b0uncer: yeah i found it
[08:00] <onur> hold on i am gonna post it
[08:00] <wired> I would really appreciate help with this issue, since it's quite annoying
[08:02] <b0uncer> wired, I remember having that once..not with ubuntu though..sorry, I can't remember what caused it :/
[08:02] <onur> b0uncer: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3349
[08:02] <b0uncer> or if I even ever found it out, before it disappeared
[08:02] <wired> :)
[08:02] <wired> it never happened in Hoary
[08:03] <wired> therefore Breezy has something to do with it, but I can find out what
[08:03] <_johnflux> Hey all
[08:03] <wired> hi
[08:03] <b0uncer> wired, my Breezy doesn't do that..anyway, my Breezy won't start pppoe up at boot, like Hoary did
[08:03] <b0uncer> :P
[08:03] <_johnflux> the upgrade wants to change shell of nobody from /bin/false to /bin/sh
[08:04] <_johnflux> are you guys sure this is okay?
[08:04] <WiFiTux> which video player runs .ram files?
[08:04] <Jowi> WiFiTux: realplay
[08:04] <_johnflux> WiFiTux: mplayer if you download the codecs
[08:04] <lucaas> b0uncer, neither does mine, but it didnt in Horay
[08:04] <b0uncer> WiFiTux, mplayer with codecs
[08:04] <sunshine> wdh well i've try to download the gaim-vv and it say file unknown
[08:04] <WiFiTux> thanks
[08:05] <selinium> how do i get wmvs to play in breezy, I have install w32codecs
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> selinium,  vlc, mplayer, can play most of them.
[08:05] <onur> b0uncer: got an idea ?
[08:05] <sunshine> wdh say u meant to save the file to home then tar it do i tar it in terminal
[08:05] <sorush20> do aspx pages work well with firefox?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> selinium,  and a mozilla plugin if you want them in web sites.
[08:05] <selinium> Dr_Willis, cheers.
[08:06] <Jowi> wired: my breezy upgrade went fine appart from some openoffice.org dependency errors. tmpfs has never bothered me with errors :-/
[08:06] <Kejk_PL> Hi, I can't ping localhost! Nmap is not working too. Is it known't bug?
[08:06] <b0uncer> onur, nope..nothing, at least yet. sorry :/
[08:06] <b0uncer> try googling?
[08:06] <wired> Jowi, I am not even sure that tmpfs is making that problem
[08:07] <onur> b0uncer: i found something in system.log file
[08:07] <lsuactiafner> whats the command to set a shell's renice level to a default? or a script's
[08:08] <Kyynara> could someone tell me what to do? http://pastebin.com/398840
[08:08] <wired> it's the point where the reboot stops, but halting the system works fine
[08:08] <b0uncer> onur?
[08:08] <teroedni> question?
[08:09] <el-stupido> okay... Loki uninstaller is giving me an error help!
[08:09] <wired> I tried searching on google, going on forum, but that didn't help
[08:09] <squid0> hi
[08:09] <sunshine> jovi i've try that it not work in i dont know what im doin wrong
[08:09] <socketbind> howdy, any idea how to fix the broken dosemu in breezy? :D
[08:10] <squid0> this isn't an ubuntu-specific question, but i'll be happy to be redirected to a more appropriate place...
[08:10] <onur> b0uncer: pasting it hold on
[08:10] <squid0> how do i configure firestarter to accept thunderbird using pop3?
[08:10] <teroedni> is it possible to remove evolution wihout removing ubuntu-desktop . Evolution uses 150 mb and i dont need it, but if i try to remove it trough synaptic the system ask to remove ubuntu_desktop :(
[08:11] <Jowi> wired: ah, i was thinking.... could be acpi or something that hangs it. i had a similar problem with a computer that only supported apm. had to disable acpi to get it to work....
[08:11] <Jowi> teroedni: ubuntu-desktop is safe to remove. it is only useful during dist-upgrades
[08:11] <teroedni> ahh:) thanks Jowi:)
[08:12] <wired> Jowi: I actually tought of the same thing, but then I run newish Toshiba A20
[08:12] <wired> plus, the halting works fine
[08:12] <Jowi> teroedni: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage :)
[08:12] <jmcnaught> squid0: add a policy allowing outgoing connections on port 110
[08:12] <socketbind> I installed dosemu on three machines, and I get the same segfault, anyone has an idea how to fix it? :D
[08:12] <socketbind> they're all fresh installs
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> socketbind,  install it on a 4th one to be sure.
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:12] <teroedni> a metapackage is?
[08:12] <socketbind> and I have no idea what's the problem
[08:12] <Rudolf> Hi there, can anybode tell me howto install java?
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> socketbind,  i find 'dosbox' works better for me.
[08:12] <sorush20> guys how can I check if a webpage is compatiable with firefox
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> !java
[08:13] <ubotu> java is, like, to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[08:13] <squid0> jmcnaught: ok, what is that port?
[08:13] <socketbind> Dr_Willis: I need it mainly for turbo pascal for the kids in the classroom
[08:13] <eliteforce_> hi
[08:13] <socketbind> Dr_Willis: and in dosbox I can't set the keyboard layout properly
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> socketbind,  woooot! Good old turbopascak.
[08:13] <Rudolf> I have tried that guide, but i get a error on the java-package
[08:13] <onur> b0uncer: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3354
[08:13] <jmcnaught> squid0: 110 is the port that pop3 uses
[08:13] <Rudolf> I have enablede the multiverse
[08:13] <socketbind> Dr_Willis: well it's good for learning the basics at least :D
[08:13] <Jowi> wired: ... mmm .... yeah .... i thought i have seen an option to temporary disable acpi during boot.... where the heck did i see that...?
[08:13] <onur> search for "fatal"
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> socketbind,  dosbox should be able to handle that. maybe better.. :P it does allmy old dos games great.
[08:14] <Jowi> wired: could be worth a shot
[08:14] <teroedni> never mind i googled it Thanks for all help Jowi
[08:14] <eliteforce_> how can i share files over lan with my other ubuntu pc without using smb?
[08:14] <socketbind> Dr_Willis: it's all about the keyboard layout and I can't set it in a proper way :/
[08:14] <wired> Jowi: jeah, I'll try that
[08:14] <squid0> jmcnaught: ok. but my firestarter's outbound policy is permissive... should that not allow pop3 by default?
[08:14] <socketbind> Dr_Willis: dosemu was perfect till now, but now I get this stupid segfaults
[08:14] <wired> thanks for the help
[08:14] <wired> I appreciate it
[08:14] <onur> there is an error of gdm_slave_xioerror_handler
[08:14] <nameless12> can someone help me fix my sources.list. I uncommented out everything i needed to and its giving me errors when doing my update. And beucase of this the W32Codecs are not showing up in synaptic. Why is the server down? is there a way around this?
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> socketbind,  keyboard layout? hmm.. no clue there.
[08:14] <squid0> jmcnaught: in fact, there's no option for adding an outbound policy rule
[08:14] <bartocc> hi all
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> socketbind,  could try recompiling from source. :P or check the forum/wikis
[08:15] <bartocc> ;)
[08:15] <jmcnaught> squid0: no.. don't tell firestarter to block outgoing port 110...  are you unable to download mail with pop3 now that firestarter is installed?
[08:15] <Jowi> teroedni: no probs. i missed your metapackage question since it wasn't highlighted with my name :)
[08:15] <socketbind> Dr_Willis, well I googled it to hell, I'll try to compile it from source
[08:15] <a_monkey> can anybody help me use a custom font in Eterm on breezy?
[08:15] <squid0> jmcnaught: yes. doesn't connect to the pop3 server
[08:15] <bartocc> I just installed Kubuntu and need help to access a wireless network
[08:15] <bartocc> anyone can help ?
[08:16] <squid0> jmcnaught: and i wasn't talking about blocking port 110
[08:16] <Jowi> a_monkey: should be "eterm -f fontname" i think
[08:16] <dexter_> ok im a PC user and ive put Ubuntu on the PC as M$ was up for a re-install and I thought I would give this a go. I am having problems as Ubuntu does not offer me a decent refresh rate even though I had XP at 1280x768 90hz
[08:16] <a_monkey> a_monkey: yea, but it always says "Error: Unable to load font"
[08:16] <daved> is there a network install cd for ubuntu?
[08:16] <a_monkey> oops
[08:16] <jmcnaught> squid0: do you notice anything under the events tab when you try to connect?
[08:16] <onur> b0uncer: any idea
[08:16] <a_monkey> Jowi: yea, but it always says "Error: Unable to load font"
[08:16] <mwe> a_monkey: I believe it's described in the manual, 'man eterm'. You have to fiddle with ~/.Xresources
[08:16] <dexter_> i get 60hz as the max
[08:17] <socketbind> bye
[08:17] <onur> b0uncer: i am reinstalling gdm right now
[08:17] <BooZee> what a program can I use instead of GAIM which does the same?
[08:17] <a_monkey> Jowi: is there some format to specify the font in or anything
[08:17] <Jowi> dexter_: run this command in the console: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:17] <teroedni> Jowi:most i add the metapackage again when i want to upgrade or dist upgrade and want to keep my current config?
[08:17] <jmcnaught> BooZee: for irc or for instant messaging?
[08:17] <b0uncer> onur, yea, better do that...I guess
[08:17] <b0uncer> can't help
[08:17] <BooZee> jmcnaught:  IM
[08:17] <nameless12> can someone help me fix my sources.list. I uncommented out everything i needed to and its giving me errors when doing my update. And beucase of this the W32Codecs are not showing up in synaptic. Why is the server down? is there a way around this?
[08:17] <mwe> a_monkey: the font of the form you get from xfontsel
[08:17] <Jowi> teroedni: yep, you got it
[08:17] <jmcnaught> BooZee: kopete is good, it's part of kde
[08:17] <a_monkey> mwe: oh
[08:18] <BooZee> jmcnaught:  but i'm using gnome
[08:18] <sunshine> does breezy access deb files
[08:18] <teroedni> :)
[08:18] <mwe> a_monkey: for example -misc-fixed-medium-r-*-*-15-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
[08:18] <Jowi> a_monkey: i have no idea about that
[08:18] <squid0> jmcnaught: a couple. some local LAN inbound events, plus inbound events on port 32928, from some foreign IP address
[08:18] <jmcnaught> BooZee: you can run kde programs in gnome
[08:18] <mwe> iirc
[08:19] <BooZee> jmcnaught:  so kopete is a good program? you recommand it?
[08:19] <PatrikJohansson> is anyone here good at wlan configuration??
[08:19] <Jowi> teroedni: you don't *have* to add the metapackage but it will make the upgrade smoother with less chance of errors. you can always remove it again after the upgrade .
[08:19] <a_monkey> mwe: i can't find the artwiz fonts in xfontsel... how do i do that?
[08:19] <jmcnaught> squid0: is that foreign IP address your mail server?  i had a problem with firestarter in hoary.  i couldn't access http://google.com with it running because google was trying to ping/something on port thirty thousand something
[08:19] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: I don't know how you define good. Mine is at least working.
[08:20] <mwe> a_monkey: it's because it's a truetype font you can't use that I believe
[08:20] <jmcnaught> BooZee: i like gaim better, but kopete is good too.  there's also aMSN, Licq, lots of jabber clients.  what network are you using?
[08:20] <BooZee> MSN, ICQ, AIM
[08:21] <a_monkey> mwe: those are bitmap pcf fonts, i believe
[08:21] <a_monkey> mwe: the artwiz
[08:21] <PatrikJohansson> mwe: well i have a cisco aironet (atheros) wich seems to work with drivers and such but i cant do anything ones im connected to the wlan
[08:21] <onur> b0uncer: no way
[08:21] <jmcnaught> BooZee: kopete is multiprotocol like gaim.  it has a system tray icon (works in gnome), and address book integration with kontact.  why not gaim?
[08:21] <mwe> a_monkey: I don't know then
[08:22] <squid0> jmcnaught: i don't know. im
[08:22] <BooZee> jmcnaught:  gaim is too simple for me.. I need more functions and features
[08:22] <tufkal> Tearing my hair out with a twinview window placement problem in gnome/metacity.  See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78838.  Giving my first born for a solution.
[08:22] <sunshine> i amd tryin to access gyach-enhanced-pyvoicechat-1.0.7-2.i386.deb now i wget the webiste then sudo dpkg -i the file but it come up with an error this also happen with any deb file i try and access how do i fix this
[08:22] <squid0> jmcnaught: oops. i'm trying to connect to gmail.
[08:22] <PatrikJohansson> mwe: i get all the right (i think) configuration from my ap ( essid , mac adress etc) but i cant ping or use the netwrk in any way
[08:22] <squid0> jmcnaught: i can download rss headers just fine, though...
[08:23] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: dhcp?
[08:23] <jmcnaught> BooZee: search in synaptic for gaim, and install some of the plugins.. you might find the features you're looking for.
[08:23] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, no static ip (works in windows, same configuration)
[08:24] <onur> How can i set kde as the default display manager from console ?
[08:24] <teroedni> Jowi:That sounds great :)
[08:24] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: did you put the info into /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:24] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, hmm i used the gui
[08:25] <daved> is there a network install cd for ubuntu?
[08:25] <jmcnaught> BooZee: yeah.. google tries reaching your computer at port 32xxx when you connect to the websearch or i guess pop3 too.. i looked up the port range once, and it had something to do with RPC (remote procedure call)... i guessed it had something to do with ajax.  kinda spooky that google needs to access strange ports though.
[08:25] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: well it puts the info into the file
[08:25] <jmcnaught> oopps... that last message was for squid0
[08:25] <BooZee> haha..
[08:25] <ikmo> daved: Not at present, I don't think..
[08:25] <tux123> hello, i have a problem with a VPN (+MPPE) over PPTP. After connecting i get the error: "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0805a4f0 ***". http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/154.txt (and syslog: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/155.txt)
[08:25] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, yeah, do you have any ideas??
[08:26] <sunshine> does anyone know about gyach
[08:26] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: does the interface show up with ifconfig?
[08:26] <ikmo> daved: But you can have a basic install and then download packages that you want
[08:26] <demantik> any idea why /tmp folder is screwing up my linux? cant boot because of it....wont even let me delete files from it...
[08:27] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, yes and all the settings seem right
[08:27] <ikmo> Are any of the art team in here please?
[08:27] <daved> ikmo: i want to install completely from the net
[08:27] <daved> ikmo: w/o using a cd
[08:28] <daved> demantik: did you sacrifice your three male goats to the /tmp gods this morning?
[08:28] <ikmo> daved: Without a CD? You mean upgrade from Hoary, or new install?
[08:28] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, iwconfig even gets me the mac-adress of my ap without me having to specify it
[08:28] <sunshine> why cant i download tar.gz
[08:28] <daved> demantik: do not anger the dogs
[08:28] <daved> ikmo: new install
[08:28] <mahangu> how do i enable opengl on my system?
[08:28] <PatrikJohansson> mwe and the essid
[08:28] <jmcnaught> BooZee: for gaim, i have these plugins: guifications, evolution, nautilus, extended prefs, off-the-record and irc-helper.  the plugins make gaim a lot more powerful and flexible.
[08:28] <mwe> hmm
[08:28] <demantik> fuckwits..
[08:29] <daved> ikmo: i want to do something kinda crackheaded, but which has worked for me w/ other distros.. i want to install on a machine w/ no cd drive (but already running linux) by taking the kernel and initrd from the netinstall cd, adding them to grub, rebooting to them, and doing a net install
[08:29] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: hmm. and the key is set and such?
[08:29] <squid0> jmcnaught: all right... but browsing google with a browser is fine. ?
[08:29] <kbrooks> daved: good
[08:29] <squid0> hey kbrooks
[08:29] <kbrooks> squid0: yes?
[08:29] <ikmo> daved: There is no net install cd for Ubuntu, sorry
[08:29] <daved> kbrooks: can i do something like that w/ ubuntu?
[08:29] <daved> argh
[08:30] <squid0> kbrooks: hey as in the american version of hi
[08:30] <daved> how annoying to assume that every machine will have a cdrom drive
[08:30] <PatrikJohansson> mwe its open (no wep key)
[08:30] <ikmo> daved: Can't you just buy a cheap cd-rom drive? ;-)
[08:30] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: does iwlist ath0 scan give sane output too?
[08:30] <sunshine> everytime i download a deb or tar file it say cannot access achive no file or directory error does anyone know what i can do
[08:30] <daved> ikmo: i can also pull a cdrom drive from another computer, but this server is racked up and i'd rather not get into it if i don't have to
[08:30] <jmcnaught> squid0: i was unable to browse to google in firefox with firestarter under hoary.  i stopped using firestarter because of that.
[08:31] <daved> ikmo: to put it more simply, i'd rather not run ubuntu than pull the box open
[08:31] <Mastermind> Hey
[08:31] <ikmo> daved: I understand :-)
[08:31] <daved> linux w/o a netinstall.. what have the kiddies done to opensores!?
[08:31] <kbrooks> daved: please
[08:32] <daved> kbrooks: you're welcome
[08:32] <kbrooks> daved: just dl the breezy cd
[08:32] <kbrooks> daved: mount it
[08:32] <ikmo> daved: I can assure you the developers are no "kiddies"
[08:32] <kbrooks> daved: the cd iso HAS initrd on it, i can assure you
[08:32] <PatrikJohansson> mwe yes it does, it gave me the mac-adress of my router, essid, encryption, mode, bitrates etc
[08:32] <ikmo> kbrooks: good thinking
[08:32] <daved> kbrooks: doesnt help me if i cant do a net install once i get into the initrd
[08:33] <kbrooks> daved: i mean copy it
[08:33] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: what about route?
[08:33] <daved> kbrooks: ok, so i reboot into the copied initrd.. now what
[08:33] <Mastermind> hey, I've got a question :)
[08:33] <daved> i dont have a cd for the packages
[08:33] <BooZee> jmcnaught:  are these plugins reacheable for download from synaptic?
[08:33] <Mastermind> somebody got some time for me?
[08:33] <ikmo> Mastermind: shoot!
[08:33] <mwe> Mastermind: ask. people will answer if they have the time
[08:34] <daved> kbrooks: of course i would have to copy the initrd.. my point is that if the installer on the initrd can't do a netinstall, that helps me not at all
[08:34] <Mastermind> okay, I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) today and synaptic just doesn't work.
[08:34] <ikmo> Mastermind: expand please :-) it crashes?
[08:34] <a_monkey> gonna reboot
[08:34] <elad`> Is KDE taking any advantage of my 3D-acceleration-capable video card?
[08:34] <daved> elad`: what card?
[08:34] <Mastermind> I'll get the MessageBox for typing in the Password but after typing in the password nothing happens
[08:35] <mwe> Mastermind: is your network working. is /etc/apt/sources.list set up correctly?
[08:35] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, gives me ( default 192.168.0.1        0.0.0.0    UG    0    0    0    ath0) all nice here i think, default is my correct essid and the ip is right too
[08:35] <daved> Mastermind: drop to a command prompt  (Accessories -> Terminal) and run    sudo synaptic
[08:35] <Jowi> Mastermind: try to run it from a terminal: sudo synaptics
[08:35] <kbrooks> daved: you probably can
[08:35] <daved> then use the url in the topic for pasting the output
[08:35] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: I have no idea why it's not working then. sorry
[08:35] <daved> kbrooks: do a net install?
[08:35] <jmcnaught> BooZee: some of them are included, some you need to install with synaptic.  search for gaim in synaptic.  then in the gaim buddy list, go tools>prefs.  goto the plugins section, turn on the ones you want.  some plugins have options (you'll see)
[08:35] <Jowi> synaptic, not synaptic
[08:35] <kbrooks> daved: Use the sources.list
[08:35] <Jowi> synaptic, not synapticS
[08:35] <elad`> daved: GeForce 440MX.
[08:35] <daved> kbrooks: that's what i was asking, and got told there was no net install
[08:35] <Mastermind> tried sudo synaptic already, gonna check the sources.list
[08:35] <daved> kbrooks: so roll a custom initrd?
[08:36] <kbrooks> daved: no.
[08:36] <Dave> hi friends
[08:36] <Jowi> hello Dave
[08:36] <ikmo> Hi, Dave :)
[08:36] <kbrooks> daved: hang on
[08:36] <daved> elad`: is it an smp machine? (p4 hyperthreaded, dual cpu, anything like that) ?
[08:36] <Dave> i need some help getting my ubuntu up to scratch so as I can enjoy it as i would like
[08:37] <ikmo> Dave: what help would that be?
[08:37] <sunshine> i really dont understand
[08:37] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, hehe np thanks for you timw
[08:37] <PatrikJohansson> *time
[08:37] <sector10> ubuntu is flakey on my notebook
[08:37] <Fanskapet> *contiues his fight with vnc*
[08:37] <sunshine> if tar.gz works how come it not workin for me
[08:37] <Dave> i would like to know what do i have to do to play wmv files
[08:37] <zyn> ubuntu was pretty easy to setup for me... just finished a fresh install
[08:37] <sunshine> need some help plz
[08:37] <sector10> sunshine: whats up?
[08:37] <ikmo> Dave: search the forums for "easyubuntu", I believe that could help
[08:38] <Jowi> Dave, totem-xine and w32codecs should be enough
[08:38] <kbrooks> daved: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[08:38] <kbrooks> ikmo: easyubuntu ... erm
[08:38] <ikmo> Dave: or Jowi's suggestion :)
[08:38] <kbrooks> has broken ubuntu pcs
[08:38] <ikmo> Dave: Jowi's is probably easier
[08:38] <Dave> do you have a url
[08:39] <elad`> daved: This machine is a P4 2.0GHz, not hyperthreaded or anything like that, and has a GeForce MX440. The one I have back home is a P4 3.0GHz, hyperthreaded, with a Radeon 9800. Got any pointers for improving the performance of either?
[08:39] <Mastermind> so, i just opened the sources.list file and I'm a little bit lost :D what should be in this file or what should I change?
[08:39] <kbrooks> a few boxes
[08:39] <squid0> jmcnaught: ok. but do you have any idea how to create a rule for firestarter to allow pop3? maybe i should allow inbound on port 110??
[08:39] <ikmo> Dave: type "sudo apt-get install totem-xine w32codecs" without the quotes in a terminal (Applications -> Terminal)
[08:39] <kbrooks> ikmo: plus, it doesnt work on ppc and amd64
[08:39] <Doclotus> Has anyone gotten 5.10 (or 5.04 for that matter) to run as a guest OS on VMWare 5.5 beta?
[08:39] <daved> kbrooks: so it is a netboot
[08:39] <ikmo> kbrooks: didn't know that, thanks
[08:39] <cheemp> how do i get the total disk  usage / free space ?
[08:40] <daved> elad`: search in synaptic for nvidia, install the linux-restricted-modules   for the smp kernel and nvidia
[08:40] <elad`> Doclotus: Not sure what version of VMware it was, but I had no trouble doing it a month or two ago.
[08:40] <kbrooks> ikmo: at least, i HEARD that from someone
[08:40] <cheemp> from sh
[08:40] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: the 'default' from route is not your essid. it stands for default gateway, but it looks ok
[08:40] <daved> elad`: then go edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make sure your driver is "nvidia" and not "nv"
[08:40] <daved> then restart x
[08:40] <yo2lux> hi
[08:40] <elad`> daved: I've done that. Anything else?
[08:40] <Jowi> Dave, ummmm, no link. but "sudo apt-get install totem-xine w32codecs" should do it if you have all the repos needed
[08:40] <Jowi> !info w32codecs
[08:40] <aclonedsheep> hey, is it true that defragging my HDD might fix my problems resizing the partition (its NTFS)
[08:40] <sunshine> sector10 i m tryin to download gyach but i can it say it a tar.gz file and all  i have to do is save ti on my home directory and tar it in terminal but that not workin i dont know what wrong the same thing happen when i try download deb files
[08:40] <Jowi> !info w32codec
[08:40] <ikmo> kbrooks: well, it would be my expectations that it would not work :)
[08:40] <kbrooks> Jowi: removed
[08:40] <jmcnaught> squid0: it's not a pop3 problem you're having.  it's a google problem.  google is insisting on getting a response from your computer on port 32nnn, and won't do anything until it gets it.  i don't know why google does that.  i bet if you tried pop3 with a different account/server it would just work
[08:40] <kbrooks> !+w32codecs
[08:40] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[08:40] <Jowi> oh
[08:41] <Kejk_PL> loopback device don't have assigned IP (should have 127.0.0.1) so I had big problems.  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3355
[08:41] <cheemp> in sh how do i get total disk usage / free space .. or total size of all files ?
[08:41] <Jowi> cheers kbrooks
[08:41] <PatrikJohansson> mwe ok, but no ideas??
[08:41] <Doclotus> elad: my issue is in getting xwindows to run. I've installed xorg, the core and GDM and I can't get anything to work beyond the login screen
[08:41] <Kejk_PL> I can't ping localhost, ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up helps
[08:41] <Mastermind> I opened the sources.list what should I do next?
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> Doclotus,  install a window manager ?
[08:41] <Kejk_PL> but how to set it automatically>?
[08:41] <thewayofzen> anyone have a suggested mirror to replace the broken repo?
[08:41] <cheemp> ah f, du
[08:41] <daved> elad`: do you see the nvidia logo flash right before X starts?
[08:41] <cheemp> df du
[08:42] <yo2lux> i have a monitor which support 800x600 resolution, i want to use ubuntu with 800x600 resolution, but i see all windows and icons is big. Exist a way to solve this problem?
[08:42] <graig> hey, my menu is all messed u.
[08:42] <graig> up.
[08:42] <elad`> daved: I used to, up until I added "nologo".
[08:42] <Doclotus> Dr_Willis: that's an excellent question, I don't think I have
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> Doclotus,  :P
[08:42] <mauricio> hola
[08:42] <Mastermind> mwe: after opening the sources.list, what do I have to do now?
[08:42] <mauricio> algunchileno por ai
[08:42] <graig> i accidently moved the internet thing into the office thing, and now even though i moved it out, my menu think's it is still inside there.
[08:43] <Doclotus> Dr_Willis I'm a bit of a nubian to Linux and didn't think one was needed beyond installing GDM, which would you recommend
[08:43] <mwe> Mastermind: check if it looks sane
[08:43] <BooZee> how do I install a codec for quicktime?
[08:43] <mwe> !tell Mastermind about sources
[08:43] <eliteforce__> hi
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> Doclotus,  but ya thought ya knew enough,. :P
[08:43] <squid0> jmcnaught: ah. ok. where is this google thing doc'ed?
[08:43] <Mastermind> mwe: it looks quite sane, yeah
[08:43] <yo2lux> i have a monitor which support 800x600 resolution, i want to use ubuntu with 800x600 resolution, but i see all windows and icons are big. Exist a way to solve this problem?
[08:43] <elad`> So, daved, anything else?
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> Doclotus,  well technicially one is NOT needed.. but then again 'gdm' is not really needed either
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> Doclotus,  but it makes it a LOT easier :P
[08:44] <sunshine> sector10 if i u could help me to figure out what im doin wrong that would be nice of ya
[08:44] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: I think the output from route is missing an entry, at least compared to mine
[08:44] <elad`> God damn it, how do I stop xchat from adding that space after an automatically completed nickname?
[08:44] <eliteforce__> i got a strange dhclient error when i try to start it with 'eth0' as argument: /etc/resolvconf/update.d/libc: Error: /etc/resolv.conf is not a symbolic link to /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf
[08:44] <eliteforce__> /usr/sbin/postconf: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[08:44] <graig> i need help. my menu is messed up. with all my programs are messed up, and the menu editor is not fixing it.
[08:44] <daved> elad`: if it is showing the nvidia logo, you are accelerated
[08:44] <daved> kbrooks: thanks
[08:44] <Jowi> yo2lux: in a terminal, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" there you can check which resolutions you want to use.
[08:44] <Doclotus> Dr_Willis agreed, especialy for someone like myself who isn't so well versed in command line unix syntax. Which window manager would you suggest?
[08:45] <kbrooks> daved: for what?
[08:45] <elad`> daved: Sure doesn't feel like I am.
[08:45] <daved> ikmo: in the future, if anyone asks if ubuntu has a netboot, the proper answer is yes:  look in ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/
[08:45] <daved> kbrooks: for the pointer to that netboot image page
[08:45] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, i have one more wich is ( 192.168.0.0  *   255.255.255.0    U   0   0   0  ath0 ), but i didnt write it before
[08:45] <daved> elad`: what do you mean?
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> Doclotus,  ubuntu is built with gnome in mind.. or try icewm, or fluxbox. or xfce
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> Doclotus,  depends onyour needs. I tend to isntall them ALL
[08:45] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: ah ok. looks good then. I out of ideas then. sorry
[08:45] <Jowi> yo2lux: most of it is autodetected. it looks more dangerous than it is. usually you just press "yes", "yes" and "yes" again :)
[08:46] <Dave> I was not successful at installing totem can anyone help me privately at a step by step instruction when i try my self i keep getting
[08:46] <elad`> daved: Things are moving slower than I'd expect. When I switch windows, for a milisecond, I feel like I see X drawing the window.
[08:46] <Dave> Package totem-xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:46] <Dave> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:46] <Dave> is only available from another source
[08:46] <Dave> E: Package totem-xine has no installation candidate
[08:46] <jmcnaught> squid0: i couldn't find anything anywhere, except that a few other people had trouble accessing http://google.com with firestarter, but no solutions.  that was 3 months ago
[08:46] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, what genmask do you get in ROUTE for your default gateway??
[08:46] <yo2lux> Jowi exist a way to start the ubuntu live cd in 800x600 resolution?
[08:46] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: 0.0.0.0
[08:46] <Jowi> yo2lux: i've never tried the live cd
[08:46] <mirak> there is not one Gnome burning tool that permit de burn an audio CD
[08:46] <yo2lux> Jowi my gnome start in 1200x700 and my monitor not support this resolution :(
[08:46] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, ok me too :(
[08:46] <nalioth> Dave: please dont paste in here, see the /topic
[08:46] <mirak> an exact copi of an audio CD
[08:46] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, damn it should work
[08:46] <yo2lux> Jowi thank you very much
[08:47] <jmcnaught> squid0: one thing to keep in mind is that firestarter is just a GUI/frontend for linux's built-in firewall iptables
[08:47] <Dave> where
[08:47] <LasseL> yo2lux, you can change the res with ctrl+alt+plus/minus, try that
[08:47] <thewayofzen> are the mirrors at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive suitable replacements for the broken us.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:47] <Doclotus> Dr_Willis are those provided on the 5.10 image or for download elsewhere?
[08:47] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: yes. you cant even ping 192.168.0.1?
[08:47] <ikmo> daved: thanks for bringing it to my attention, much appreciated :)
[08:47] <yo2lux> thanks
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> Doclotus,  the 5.10 install should of installed thenormal gnome. :P or ya can apt-get install the others
[08:48] <os2mac> is there someone I can talk to about wireless configuration coming out of hibernation?
[08:48] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, nope ""destination host unreachable
[08:48] <elad`> I'm using sessionsaver, and when another user logs in (I'm running Ubuntu), it sees the same session. He overwrites my session. He changes my preferences. How do I stop that?
[08:48] <Doclotus> Dr_Willis I know, when I tried out Ubuntu previously gnome installed as part of the original install. For some reason on this laptop I have to manually install everything
[08:48] <jocke1s> Hi all, How do I set my locale. Everything works nicely in gnome. But I loose my swedish characters in E17 and locale is set to en_US:en
[08:48] <LasseL> Doclotus, unless you have l33t skilzz you will want to stick with gnome :)
[08:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dave about paste
[08:48] <mwe> hmm
[08:48] <sunshine> does anyone know how to work gyach
[08:49] <sunshine> how to install it
[08:49] <Jowi> jocke1s: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[08:49] <el-stupido> anyone here play UT?
[08:49] <graig> i think i found a bug.
[08:49] <aclonedsheep> Whats the best defragging tool?
[08:49] <Jowi> jocke1s: but wait
[08:49] <daved> elad`: X does not use 3d acceleration
[08:49] <ikmo> aclonedsheep: Not really needed on Linux
[08:49] <el-stupido> anyone in here play Unreal Tournament
[08:49] <graig> if you use smeg, and you take a program group, say internet, and move it into office, you cant move it out. and your menu gets messed up.
[08:50] <Jowi> jocke1s: I think that you just need to set it in your .xsession file...
[08:50] <daved> elad`: anything gl accelerated will.. cedega for games.. glxgears.. gl screensavers.. etc
[08:50] <jocke1s> Jowi: I'll have a look
[08:50] <nalioth> aclonedsheep: linux has no fragmentation to speak of
[08:50] <Doclotus> Lassel Gnome is definitely my preference, but unfortunately I can't get it to work at the moment.
[08:50] <daved> elad`: there is code coming down the pipe to add more 3d acceleration to the base x drawing, but it's not here quite yet
[08:50] <nalioth> graig: are you using dev smeg? or the default one?
[08:51] <LasseL> Doclotus, sounds really really strange!
[08:51] <BooZee> !ubutu
[08:51] <ubotu> BooZee: What?
[08:51] <elad`> Oh, ok, thanks.
[08:51] <Kira> Good day.
[08:51] <jocke1s> Jowi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales didn't change anything.
[08:51] <daved> elad`: believe me, i'm waiting anxiously right there with you :)
[08:51] <elad`> :)
[08:52] <sunshine> does anyone know how to work gyach
[08:52] <Kira> I'm trying dual-boot Windows XP + Ubuntu (Windows XP as primary OS for now).
[08:52] <Fanskapet> agh
[08:52] <Doclotus> LasseL I suspect part is because VMWare is in the middle, but currently I get to the splash login screen, login, and it gets me to a screen with window manager in text and nothing else. If I click on it, I get a blank screen and nothing.
[08:52] <elad`> Say, how when I start a new login session, how do I switch back and forth between the two?
[08:52] <nalioth> sunshine: there are no instructions on the gyach homepage?
[08:52] <daved> elad`: when it does come, we're looking at true composite rendering though.. true alpha channels (transparency) etc..
[08:52] <fredmorcos> hey peoepl
[08:52] <fredmorcos> *people
[08:52] <Kira> I was planning for it so I left some free disk space unpartitioned on purpose.
[08:52] <fredmorcos> i need some help updating my kernel
[08:52] <ikmo> hey fredmorcos :)
[08:52] <ikmo> fredmorcos: Ask away
[08:52] <daved> elad`: ctrl-alt-f7  f8  f9  etc
[08:52] <LasseL> Doclotus, ah, do a real install, then we can talk
[08:52] <EcksEightySix> howdy. what package should I install if I need libtermcap.so.2 (tried a lot of possible combo with apt-get without much success)
[08:52] <squid0> jmcnaught: ok. thanks for your help :)
[08:52] <Fanskapet> hmm doesn't ubuntu breezy use inetd anymore?
[08:53] <el-stupido> *sigh*
[08:53] <el-stupido> anyone in here play Unreal Tournament??
[08:53] <mwe> jocke1s: is LANGUAGE and LANG set correctly in /etc/environment?
[08:53] <EcksEightySix> el-stupido: not I. sry.
[08:53] <Doclotus> LasseL unfortunately that isn't likely with the time I have currently
[08:53] <jmcnaught> squid0: you're welcome, good luck
[08:53] <fredmorcos> ikmo, actually, i would like to update it to 2.6.13
[08:53] <daved> Doclotus: did you install vmware-tools ?
[08:53] <fredmorcos> which isn't in the repos
[08:53] <nalioth> EcksEightySix: install "apt-file" and search for it in your terminal
[08:53] <daved> Doclotus: if not, install them
[08:54] <Doclotus> daved I haven't been able to get to that point unfortunately
[08:54] <jocke1s> mwe: yes I think so
[08:54] <ikmo> fredmorcos: any particular reason? :)
[08:54] <daved> Doclotus: drop to a terminal
[08:54] <EcksEightySix> nalioth, thanks. I'll try that.
[08:54] <nalioth> el-stupido: please dont repeat so often, if your answer is not here, repeating wont bring it any faster
[08:54] <daved> Doclotus: ctrl-alt-f1
[08:54] <fredmorcos> ikmo, for bluetooth usb support
[08:54] <jocke1s> mwe: ahhh nope. I have LANGUAGE="en_US:en"
[08:54] <Kira> Now I'm getting worried because when I use autopartitioning in the Ubuntu installer, its suggestion is to create a primary partition as ext3 and a logical partition as swap (beside the existing primary ntfs partition).
[08:54] <Doclotus> I'm there
[08:54] <el-stupido> sorry nalioth just wondering if any new users play it
[08:54] <elad`> daved - ctrl-alt-f7 is this one, the second one is f9, and f8 has what I saw when I booted up. Explanation?
[08:54] <fredmorcos> ikmo, my belking usb bluetooth device isn't working
[08:54] <jocke1s> mwe: and LANG=sv_SE
[08:54] <yondaime> #Mirage-team@irc.yumeru.net
[08:54] <daved> elad`: you did something freaky when messing w/ your video drivers
[08:54] <Kira> Is that normal?
[08:55] <seba> hi, i have a live cd question: when rebooting it loads until the moment it asks for language. at that point the screen freezes and have to reboot the computer in windows. i checked the bios and usb keyborard support is 'on'. computer is pentium 3, ubuntu version is 5.04
[08:55] <daved> elad`: it will be fine after a reboot
[08:55] <nalioth> el-stupido: a good rule of thumb is to wait 5 minutes tween the same question
[08:55] <jorge_> hi
[08:55] <Doclotus> daved How do I install the tools form the command line?
[08:55] <fredmorcos> ikmo, and i heard that the 2.6.13  generic driver (as the bluez isn't working)
[08:55] <daved> Doclotus: follow the instructions in the vmware help
[08:55] <Baza41> apt-get install <name>
[08:55] <lasindi[lappy] > Hello! In order to play .wmv or .asx videos, what package do you need to download and install?
[08:55] <elad`> daved - I've rebooted a dozen times since I installed my drivers.
[08:55] <nalioth> seba: is your md5 sum correct on the livecd?
[08:55] <Doclotus> daved Will do, thanks.
[08:55] <Mastermind> mwe: nothing's working
[08:55] <mahangu> anybody here installed quake for ubuntu>?
[08:56] <Baza41> I had quake on my hoary box
[08:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lasindi[lappy]  about w32codecs
[08:56] <daved> elad`: you have not pleased the gods of xorg today, please sacrifice 3 chickens and do the chicken dance, then try again
[08:56] <Jowi> jocke1s: do you have this in your keyboard config in /etc/X11/xorg.conf:        Option          "XkbLayout"     "se"
[08:56] <daved> elad`: aka i have no friggin idea :)
[08:56] <fredmorcos> nalioth, w32codecs dont work
[08:56] <seba> nalioth, i dont' know. i didn't download it, i got the original from canonical
[08:56] <nalioth> lasindi[lappy] : you'll need to keep in mind, that some modern microsoft codecs wont play at all
[08:56] <kbrooks> fredmorcos:
[08:56] <ikmo> fremorcos: I'll check the kernel changelog, it may not be necessary, can you tell me if it is detected when you type "lspci" without the quotes in a terminal, please?
[08:56] <kbrooks> !+w32codecs
[08:56] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[08:56] <lasindi[lappy] > nalioth, okay thanks.
[08:56] <nalioth> seba: some of the hoary disks were shipped "damaged" you should check your md5
[08:56] <Mastermind> mwe: how do I change the original sources.list to the example sources.list?
[08:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell seba about verify
[08:57] <jorge_> I am dowloading a file from Gnome BitTorrent, but I did shut off my computer, how can I continue the unloading?
[08:57] <nik222> hello, would someone be able to give me a few pointers on getting my 2nd hard drive to work
[08:57] <jocke1s> Jowi: yes, I will try with new environm,ent file and see how it goes
[08:57] <mwe> Mastermind: if it looks better. back up the old one first though
[08:57] <budluva> jorge_ open bittorrent again and start it
[08:57] <Jowi> jorge_: just start the download again. it should continue from where it left off
[08:57] <nalioth> jorge_: restart it with gnome bittorrent, and it will continue
[08:57] <jmcnaught> what port does gnome bittorrent use?  is it configurable?
[08:57] <Mastermind> mwe: done that already ;)
[08:57] <fredmorcos> ikmo, no its not detected
[08:57] <PatrikJohansson> anyone here good at wlan??? (except you wme :D )
[08:58] <budluva> jmcnaught should be configurabler
[08:58] <budluva> err configurable
[08:58] <seba> nalioth, but i tried it in my laptop, which is a pentium 4, centrino, and worked perfectly
[08:58] <grover> no such thing as a p4 centrino
[08:58] <nalioth> seba: then you should look at the hardware end, then
[08:58] <nik222> is this the right place to look for support?
[08:59] <kbrooks> YES
[08:59] <kbrooks> ask
[08:59] <jorge_> Hi, I am downloading a file from bittorrent, but this afternoon I have shut off my computer, can I continue my unloading?
[08:59] <Jowi> nik222: you might get lucky :)
[08:59] <nalioth> jmcnaught: http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/cmdline.shtml
[08:59] <nik222> yay :)
[08:59] <kbrooks> jorge_: we told you
[08:59] <nalioth> jorge_: please pay attention, your question was answered more than 3 times
[08:59] <jorge_> sorry
[08:59] <bliggy> can soemone tell me how to change directory to a dir that has a space in it from the command line?
[08:59] <nik222> i just finished adding a new harddrive, but when drag files over to it my remaining space left on my primary root hard drive doesnt increase
[08:59] <jorge_> but my internet server off
[08:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bliggy about cli
[09:00] <kbrooks> bliggy: \
[09:00] <nalioth> nik222: are you moving or copying?
[09:00] <ikmo> fredmorcos: There is a lot of bluetooth bugfixes in 2.6.13, of which i can see :-) but I'm not sure if it will help the detection of such a device
[09:00] <kbrooks> bliggy: "escape the space"
[09:00] <kbrooks> OR
[09:00] <daved> jorge_: no, you must first re-check every bit by hand using a hex editor and make sure that all of your 1's are straight and that the hole is the approprate, ISO-approved size in the middle of your 0's
[09:00] <seba> thanks, i'll look further
[09:00] <jorge_> I not saw the answer because my internet shut off
[09:00] <kbrooks> bliggy: "a b"
[09:00] <hendrik> what must i do next after this hendrik@ubuntu:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -m
[09:00] <jmcnaught> nalioth: thanks
[09:00] <elad`> daved: The mouse under that secondary login has gone completely nuts. It's stuck to the top of the screen, for starters.
[09:00] <hendrik> by adding wlan
[09:00] <Mastermind> mwe: and after backing the old one up, what comes next?
[09:00] <Jowi> jorge_: just start the download again. it should continue from where it left off
[09:00] <nalioth> jorge_: it will continue when you restart it
[09:00] <nik222> nalioth i went into terminal and i did "mv -v /Music /Other_drive
[09:00] <fredmorcos> ikmo, ok, thanks :)
[09:01] <jorge_> ummm, no when I continue the file begin to 0%!!!!!
[09:01] <nik222> im wondering if I didnt setup the drive properly and so its just another directory on my first drive
[09:01] <ikmo> fredmorcos: I will search the forums for you for similar issues
[09:01] <jorge_> and I get the 88%
[09:01] <jorge_> is 1,3 Gb
[09:01] <nalioth> nik222: and you gained no space on on /Music, eh? how did you check?
[09:01] <rick_> Can anyone please help me with mounting NTFS drives in Breezy Ubuntu. The only way it works is if I set the access path to the desktop, but then it makes my desktop read only and screws everything up. If I try to make my own path the enable button wont work.
[09:01] <number2178> hi, i get DNS server IP(s) from my ISP DHCP server, how can i find out what are these IPs ?
[09:01] <nik222> sorry it was ~/Music that I moved, i'm checking free space through nautilis
[09:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rick_ about ntfs
[09:02] <Jowi> number2178: from your ISP
[09:02] <fredmorcos> ikmo, thanks
[09:02] <nalioth> nik222: did you hit "reload" in the nautilus window?
[09:02] <bliggy> kbrooks and nalioth thank you
[09:02] <hendrik> what must i do after sudo ndiswrapper -m
[09:02] <hendrik> by adding wlan
[09:02] <LasseL> rick_, add something like this to your /etc/fstab file: /dev/hda1      /media/win_c    ntfs    ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 0
[09:02] <number2178> Jowi: is there some ifconfig flag which shows IP addresses of DNS servers
[09:02] <hendrik> and how must i configure the wlan
[09:02] <LasseL> rick_, make sure that /media/win_c exists (or whatever you choose to call it)
[09:02] <nik222> nalioth: i just did, no change
[09:03] <Jowi> ah, DNS!
[09:03] <ikmo> fredmorcos:
[09:03] <ikmo> Do you have the BCM2003 firmware placed in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ ?
[09:03] <LasseL> rick_, then sudo mount -a to reload the shares
[09:03] <Jowi> number2178: sorry, i misread your question
[09:03] <rick_> Can anyone please help me with mounting NTFS in breezy
[09:03] <nalioth> nik222: i assume you moved a substantial amount of data, yes?
[09:03] <hendrik> can please someone help me to configure a wlan network
[09:03] <nalioth> rick_: you got a private msg from ubotu, pleaae read it
[09:04] <rick_> i did read it, however, it does not apply to breezy
[09:04] <Jowi> number2178: easiest is to "sudo network-admin" and click the DNS tab
[09:04] <LasseL> rick_, maybe, if you will please pay attention
[09:04] <number2178> jowi: there should be way. google did not help me. too much of DNS everywhere. and ifconfig does not display DNS info like ipconfig /all does in windows
[09:04] <virus> hei guys, i got a geforce 7800gtx, im using hoary (5.04) and the nvidia glx deb pacacke doesnt work, every 3dapp is missing the glx module
[09:04] <nalioth> rick_: it will work for you
[09:04] <ikmo> rick_ : ubuntuguide.org will work on breezy
[09:04] <nik222> nalioth: yes, 3.7 gigs, it also didn't take anytime at all to move which is why i suspect perhaps im just moving it to a different directory on the same harddrive
[09:04] <budluva> virus did you put nvglx in your xorg.conf instead of nv?
[09:04] <nalioth> ikmo: please dont recommend ubuntuguide
[09:04] <kbrooks> !ubuntuguide
[09:04] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[09:04] <number2178> thanks lot
[09:04] <LasseL> rick_, which part of my reply doesn't work?
[09:04] <ikmo> nalioth: why?
[09:04] <nalioth> nik222: yes that sounds like the case, perhaps some further detective work
[09:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ikmo about ubuntuguide
[09:05] <kbrooks> ikmo: see ubotu reply
[09:05] <virus> !faq
[09:05] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[09:05] <rick_> I am sorry I did not see your response
[09:05] <ikmo> nalioth: thank you
[09:05] <rick_> I was referring to the article from ubotu
[09:05] <nik222> nalioth: how could I check if my 2nd heard drive is properly mounted
[09:05] <hendrik> please can somebody help me with the wlan i don't understand this for conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf; do
[09:05] <hendrik> sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile
[09:05] <hendrik> done
[09:06] <virus> budluva, em, no, should i ?
[09:06] <nalioth> nik222: open a terminal and type "mount"
[09:06] <hendrik> and how to do it can someone help me please
[09:06] <tellnes> hey, after fresh install of ubuntu, i dont have sound in wolf et or rhythmbox, yet i have sound in vlc sincei downloaded vlc and the plugins for it, anyone know what plugings or packages i need to get sound in rhythmbox and wolf et etc..?
[09:06] <thewayofzen> okay now my sources.list is completely messed
[09:06] <ikmo> fredmorcos: have you checked?
[09:06] <hendrik> please
[09:06] <thewayofzen> trying to find mirrors to fix apt
[09:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell thewayofzen about sources
[09:06] <nalioth> thewayofzen: there ya go, use that one
[09:06] <rick_> basicly im wondering, when i set the access path in disk manager, what should it be, everything else I have tried besides desktop dont work
[09:06] <thewayofzen> nalioth, rad
[09:06] <kbrooks> hendrik: get all the config files and edit them
[09:06] <nik222> nalioth: hm its not there, I suppose I don't have it setup correctly in my fstab
[09:07] <PatrikJohansson> anyone here good at wlan??
[09:07] <hendrik> kbrooks how do i do that
[09:07] <nalioth> nik222: are your files still there?
[09:07] <kbrooks> hendrik: thats what it does
[09:07] <kbrooks> hendrik: u misread
[09:08] <nik222> nalioth: its a blank drive, i just partitioned it and put the ext3 filesystem on it
[09:08] <hendrik> kbrooks and what is the command then
[09:08] <Cody`> anyone know if backports for breezy are up?
[09:08] <kbrooks> hendrik: ?
[09:08] <elad`> Where can I find a list of Ubuntu's official repositories?
[09:08] <hendrik> yes
[09:08] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: did you check dmesg and /var/log/messages
[09:08] <nalioth> nik222: the files you 'mv'd. are they still there?
[09:08] <kbrooks> hendrik: I don't understand you
[09:08] <Alex_BO> why can't i download w32codecs?
[09:08] <ikmo> fredmorcos: hello?
[09:08] <lasindi[lappy] > nalioth, I'm following the instructions, but when I add a repository and then do "apt-get update," I get this error: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/5RuBmT71.html
[09:08] <kbrooks> !+w32codes
[09:08] <nalioth> Cody`: you have to have a  developement version to backport from, when dapper starts developement, backports will appear
[09:08] <ubotu> kbrooks: What?
[09:08] <kbrooks> !+w32codecs
[09:08] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[09:09] <rick_> Thanks for your help
[09:09] <rick_> all
[09:09] <Alex_BO> kbrooks, tnks
[09:09] <jorge_> quit
[09:09] <jorge_> exit
[09:09] <nik222> nalioth: yes they are in /mnt/stuff
[09:09] <hendrik> kbrooks how do i change the configfiles
[09:09] <nalioth> lasindi[lappy] : dont use nerim. what pkg did you need from there anyway?
[09:09] <Cody`> nalioth: ah I get it, it's just that it always had more software :P
[09:09] <Cody`> thanks
[09:09] <kbrooks> hendrik: the script u pasted does that!
[09:09] <nalioth> nik222: good show! fix your fstab and continue on
[09:09] <lasindi[lappy] > nalioth, w32codecs
[09:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lasindi[lappy]  about w32codecs
[09:09] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, whats dmesg supposed to give me??
[09:10] <_jason> ok guys I need your help.  I don't want to boot windows just to listen to a stream.  mms://rdp.oninet.pt/antena1 refuses to stream correctly in any player I have tried.  It is not a codec problem because I hear pieces play but it just doesn't stream/buffer correctly.  Can anyone help?  At least try the link and let me know if it works for you? (It is a champions league game)  Thanks.
[09:10] <nalioth> lasindi[lappy] : it is very inadvisable to use debian binary repos
[09:10] <Doclotus> daved Trying to follow those instructions, but I think the tar file for the linux version of the tools is missing or the image isn't mounting, any suggestions where to look?
[09:10] <bliggy> i have a program that requires g++ be installed to compile... shouls I use g++ or g++4.0?
[09:10] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: indications of kernel complaints
[09:10] <lasindi[lappy] > ok
[09:10] <Dave> I have tried to install totem and still the files wont play such as mp3 wav wmv
[09:10] <nalioth> bliggy: install "build-essential" it will get you all that and more
[09:10] <kbrooks> _jason: Dave:
[09:10] <hendrik> sudo ndiswrapper -m
[09:10] <hendrik>  this script do you mean
[09:10] <kbrooks> hendrik: no
[09:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dave about mp3
[09:10] <hendrik> which script then
[09:11] <kbrooks> the last one u pasted
[09:11] <leonel> Ubuntu Server 5.10
[09:11] <Alex_BO> kbrooks, but if i write "sudo apt-get install w32codecs", it says me that "Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package." and i can't downlaod that package
[09:11] <bliggy> nalioth... lookin now
[09:11] <leonel> who hoo \o/
[09:11] <aap> Hello, I'm looking for a distribution as a server and am interested in ubuntu. I saw ubuntu released a server build. Where can I read about this, and is it suited to run as server?
[09:11] <kbrooks> Alex_BO: dont, read
[09:11] <PatrikJohansson> mwe and messages?
[09:11] <_jason> kbrooks:  ?
[09:11] <leonel> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[09:11] <leonel> this rocks !
[09:11] <kbrooks> !tell Alex_BO about w32codecs
[09:11] <kbrooks> !tell _jason about w32codecs
[09:11] <nalioth> aap: it is debian based and functions as you wish it to (as a server)
[09:11] <PatrikJohansson> mwe how can i see if something isnt as it should??
[09:12] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: indications of any errors
[09:12] <hendrik> kbrooks i m just a beginner can you change it so i can paste it in the terminal
[09:12] <_jason> kbrooks:  I have those, like I said it's not a codec problem... does it work for you?
[09:12] <nalioth> _jason: what type of files are you not able to play?
[09:12] <kbrooks> hendrik: try that and see
[09:12] <bliggy> nalioth, thanks again
[09:12] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: it will usually say something that obviously looks wrong if anything is wrong
[09:12] <stemd> is there mplayer ubuntu repository? ( I compiled it on redhat, I apt-get it on debian, and I hope that on ubuntu I wouldn't need to compile it...)
[09:12] <aap> nalioth: that is what I reasoned too. except, will there be security fixes as with debian? and saw leonel just pasted the release notes of it :)
[09:12] <_jason> nalioth:  I can't stream: mms://rdp.oninet.pt/antena1
[09:12] <Mastermind> mwe: did you overread me or are you too busy?
[09:12] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, hmm do i have to read it all??
[09:13] <kbrooks> aap: yes there are
[09:13] <elad`> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/beezy-updates/main/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[09:13] <elad`> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/beezy-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[09:13] <nalioth> aap: breezy will have security fixes for 18 months
[09:13] <kbrooks> aap: 18 months each release
[09:13] <nalioth> elad`: please dont paste
[09:13] <_jason> nalioth:  it decodes fine b/c I hear pieces of it.. but buffering doesn't work right... hangs for minutes and plays 2 seconds then repeats
[09:13] <krister> hi, I have a question about shellscripts... If I want tot recursivley chmod the directorys to drwxr-xr-x and the files to -rw-r--r--, how do I do?
[09:13] <Alex_BO> kbrooks, so there is the package reference, but there isn't the package, is it?
[09:13] <hendrik> try this for conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf
[09:13] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: it was just a suggestion, if you want to try to find the source of your problem
[09:13] <krister> I guess it's shelscripts...
[09:13] <zburns> Anybody try Ubuntu-Server yet?
[09:13] <aap> kbrooks: oke, and with debian this is 5 years, correct? hmm. so after 18 months I would need to upgrade to the next stable version?
[09:13] <nalioth> _jason: perhaps you should use mimms or mmsclient to d/l the file in it's entirety and watch it locally
[09:13] <kbrooks> Alex_BO: did u get what ubotu msged u or not
[09:13] <_jason> nalioth:  if you'd like to give it a try and see if it plays for you, it is a champions league soccer game mms://rdp.oninet.pt/antena1
[09:13] <mwe> Mastermind: question about sources.list?
[09:14] <leonel> zburns, downloading  now
[09:14] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, ok thx
[09:14] <micha_> Hi, does someone know how to enable Python for OpenOffice2 in Ubuntu 5.10?
[09:14] <cristi> krischan, i think with chmod -R ?
[09:14] <hendrik> kbrooks must i try this for conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf
[09:14] <Mastermind> mwe: yeah, I backed the old file up, what comes next?
[09:14] <kbrooks> hendrik: the full script
[09:14] <_jason> nalioth:  but it is a live stream, can I play files with those programs as well?
[09:14] <zburns> leonel: me too.  Do you know how easy it is to setup a mail server with multiple domains, spamassassin, etc?
[09:14] <mwe> Mastermind: look at the file and see if it looks sane
[09:14] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, "ath0: unable to reset hardware; hal status 3 "?????
[09:14] <Alex_BO> kbrooks, yes.okey, thank you however
[09:14] <mwe> Mastermind: compare to what ubotu pointed to
[09:14] <leonel> zburns, postfix  does easy
[09:15] <Mastermind> mwe: compared to the example file mine looks insane :D
[09:15] <nalioth> jades: mimms and mmsclient download "microsoft multimedia streams" to a local file (usually a wmv) for you to play locally
[09:15] <luzbelito> hi to all. to update ubuntu to 5.10 i must format mi pc ??? pls help.
[09:15] <nik222> nalioth: my fstab seems to be correct, it reads: /dev/hdb1 /mnt/stuff ext3 defaults 0 0
[09:15] <krister> cristi: no, I want the dirs and the files to have different permissions
[09:15] <leonel> just add the domains to  relay_domains  and you're done
[09:15] <kbrooks> luzbelito: No
[09:15] <nalioth> jades: if it is live, you may be experienceing network latency issues
[09:15] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, and "netdev watchdog:  ath0: transmit timed out" ???
[09:15] <luzbelito> kbrooks, how i do it ?
[09:15] <kbrooks> luzbelito: this isnt windows
[09:15] <kbrooks> !breezy
[09:15] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:15] <Jowi> luzbelito: nope, read he link in the topic for this channel
[09:15] <mwe> Mastermind: then try the example one, substituting with your local mirror
[09:15] <_jason> nalioth:  it plays fine in windows though
[09:15] <luzbelito> thanks !
[09:15] <zburns> leonel: I always go through the setup from scratch and it just takes me all day because of all the configuration, etc.  Thought this would be perfect if the Ubuntu people
[09:15] <Defaultx> Warez, full programs, Mp3, GAMES, DVD/CD RIPPERS, E-BOOKS, MAGAZINES, WITHOUT REGISTRY! AT http://www.tododescargas.com.ve
[09:16] <kbrooks> wtf.
[09:16] <gnomefreak> bots?
[09:16] <Mastermind> mwe: how do I change the 2 files, I can only read (got to change them somehow with root)
[09:16] <luzbelito> any command to know my ubuntu version ???
[09:16] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: ok. I don't know the axact meaning of that. maybe google will help?
[09:16] <Jowi> Mastermind: "sudo nano filename" will edit them as root
[09:17] <nalioth> _jason: perhaps you should <uggh> use windows to watch your football
[09:17] <PatrikJohansson> mwe,  ill see ( i know always google before askink sry :D )
[09:17] <mwe> Mastermind: yeah gksudo gedit the file
[09:17] <Jowi> Mastermind: replace nano with whichever editor you prefer
[09:17] <nalioth> nik222: can you mount it with the "mount" command/
[09:17] <micha_> Anyone got Python working with OpenOffice2 in 5.10?
[09:17] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: dont worry
[09:17] <gnomefreak> what is lisp?
[09:17] <stemd> gnomefreak: prog lang
[09:17] <gnomefreak> oh thats not good :(
[09:18] <mwe> gnomefreak: Lots of Irritating Silly Parenthesis
[09:18] <stemd> why?
[09:18] <luzbelito> any command to know my ubuntu version ???
[09:18] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:18] <stemd> :-)
[09:18] <_jason> nalioth:  I've been doing that but I was hoping I could avoid it... oh well.  Thanks anyway.  One last question.  What is the simplest free program that will let me stream files... I'd like to look at the source for it.  Know of any?
[09:18] <mwe> gnomefreak: it's used by the emacs editor for one thing
[09:18] <Jowi> luzbelito: "cat /proc/version"
[09:18] <nik222> nalioth: no it says: mount /dev/hdb alreadyed mounted or /mnt/stuff busy
[09:18] <hendrik> kbrooks i get this error Password:bash: /etc/ndiswrapper/neti2220.inf/*.conf: Onbekend bestand of map
[09:19] <ToXedVirus> hei people, can somebody tell me how to install the nvidia drivers completly, do i have to change the xorg.conf ?
[09:19] <nalioth> _jason: icecast i believe is one, also look into ogg vorbis and ogg theora streaming
[09:19] <_jason> nalioth:  alright thanks
[09:19] <Alex_BO> why can't i find ~/.mozilla/plugins?
[09:19] <nalioth> nik222: can you umount it?
[09:19] <nalioth> Alex_BO: b/c you dont have one?
[09:19] <Jowi> luzbelito: also, uname -a will give you some info
[09:20] <Alex_BO> nalioth, but mozilla has plugins!
[09:20] <El_Che> luzbelito: grep \\-updates /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:20] <Mastermind> mwe: that means: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:20] <mwe> ToXedVirus: there is a guide at the wiki
[09:20] <El_Che> luzbelito: warty, hoary or breezy
[09:20] <luzbelito> Jowi, is it the last version? Linux cccp 2.6.10-5-386
[09:20] <ompaul> !tell ToXedVirus about nvidia
[09:20] <luzbelito> my one is hoary.
[09:20] <ompaul> ToXedVirus, check the message from ubotu
[09:20] <luzbelito> i wanna to update to breezy
[09:20] <Jowi> luzbelito: 2.6.10 should be hoary
[09:20] <jbroome> i want to take a nap
[09:21] <mwe> Mastermind: yeah
[09:21] <Alex_BO> nalioth, okey.i carry out it
[09:21] <nalioth> Alex_BO: open a terminal and type "mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins" if you have to have one, otw look in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[09:21] <El_Che> luzbelito: edit /etc/apt/sources and change your version name to breezy everywere
[09:21] <luzbelito> but my problem is hoary is not working fine. firefox brocked up and mozilla browses too slow (i think is some flash problem)
[09:21] <ToXedVirus> thnx
[09:21] <Mastermind> mwe: it sound weird, but it doesn't work at all...
[09:21] <rick_> Ok guys and gals, I got my NTFS drives mounted in breezy, but now I cannot view their contents unless I am logged in as root, and I am unable to change permissions even in root account, any ideas?
[09:21] <vbgunz> someone please help. I made an important backup to a rar file and I believe it is corrupt. I need something from the backup and am afraid I might lose it. How would I go about extracting a specific directory? Any help is greatly appreciated!
[09:21] <Alex_BO> nalioth, yes.i have one in /usr/...
[09:21] <mwe> Mastermind: what doesn't work?
[09:21] <BooZee> how does the no-ip client runs? I tried running it with sudo, and nothing happend...
[09:22] <Mastermind> mwe: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:22] <BooZee> it's not showing in the services
[09:22] <shiv>  when I start my computer I get this black screen dhcpp3 login: prompt, then I turn it off and restart and I can get my gui back. HOw do I get rid of this black screen with the prompt
[09:22] <nik222> nalioth: umount /mnt/stuff telss me /mnt/stuff not mounted
[09:22] <mwe> Mastermind: what happens
[09:22] <elad`> Can I use apt-get to install Firefox 1.5b2?
[09:22] <danl_B> if i want to compile a progam that uses libxext6 do i need to uninstall libxext 1:6.8 and install libxext6 ?
[09:22] <luzbelito> El_Che, please answer me ?
[09:23] <rick_> Any ideas anyone, mounted NTFS drives using disk manager in breezy, and the shortcuts are on my desktop, but I cannot access them unless I am in root account, and I am unable to change permissions
[09:23] <Jowi> BooZee: i use dyndns, and it only check for ip changes when you boot the computer or when you tell it specifically to do so. i don't know about how no-ip functions
[09:23] <Adriaan> hello
[09:23] <Mastermind> mwe: nothing at all, I type, press Enter and he just makes a new line :D no password, just the normal xxx@xxx:-$
[09:23] <El_Che> luzbelito: answer what
[09:24] <Adriaan> Can someone help me? (newbie)
[09:24] <rick_> o well, i guess no one knows, thanks anyways
[09:24] <luzbelito> El_Che, private msg for know where are you from in argentina?
[09:24] <mwe> Mastermind: weird. see if sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list works then. Find out why gksudo doesn't work later
[09:25] <balzac> hello
[09:25] <El_Che> luzbelito: no msg, are you a registered user? (I'm not from Ar)
[09:25] <shiv> nobody loves me :(
[09:25] <Adriaan> installed 5.10, now trying to compile a driver for my wi-fi usb dongle. But it complains about the kernel and the compiler being different versions. What should I do?
[09:25] <shiv>  when I start my computer I get this black screen dhcpp3 login: prompt, then I turn it off and restart and I can get my gui back. HOw do I get rid of this black screen with the prompt
[09:25] <vbgunz> anyone know how to extract *.exe from a tar archive? Please help
[09:25] <Arnald> anyone know why the hoary-breezy upgrade wants to remove all packages on my system?
[09:25] <balzac> i'm looking for a stable dialup software. I find the pon/poff dialup program to be buggy
[09:25] <Mastermind> mwe: again the same new line...
[09:25] <kbrooks> vbgunz: tar -xf f.tar
[09:26] <TG__> could anyone help me with mercury? when i start runMercury.sh i get this: http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=schermafdruk4km.png
[09:26] <Arnald> well, it won't let me upgrade with mozilla-firefox installed
[09:26] <Jowi> vbgunz: unrar archive x (or e) archive.rar filenametoextract. check the man page
[09:26] <zooko> Greetings, People of Ubuntu!
[09:26] <rick_> Anyone help me with not being able to access my mounted ntfs partitions in breezy unless i am root
[09:26] <Adriaan> installed 5.10, now trying to compile a driver for my wi-fi usb dongle. But it complains about the kernel and the compiler being different versions. What should I do?
[09:26] <snooo> help!
[09:26] <Arnald> and if I try to remove it - armageddon
[09:26] <vbgunz> kbrooks, tar -xf *.exe home.tar
[09:26] <luzbelito> El_Che, yes i am registered. i live in spain.
[09:26] <zooko> All of my devices in /dev are owner root, group root, and permissions 0660.
[09:26] <mwe> Mastermind: no error or anything?
[09:26] <vbgunz> kbrooks, something like that?
[09:26] <vbgunz> I am working on it
[09:26] <kbrooks> vbgunz: wrong
[09:26] <snooo> for some reason grub is ignoring my keystrokes when i boot, so i cant change operating systems. what could be causing it?
[09:26] <krister> hm, how do I change the default system-font?
[09:27] <Mastermind> mwe: nope, nothing
[09:27] <kbrooks> vbgunz: x == extract
[09:27] <Arnald> and yes, I have read the upgrade instructions
[09:27] <mwe> Mastermind: it sounds badly broken to me
[09:27] <nalioth> Adriaan: install gcc-3.4
[09:27] <danl_B> lss
[09:27] <luzbelito> El_Che, i think i must format this ubuntu. its no working fine from some day... browses too slow, burns slow, everithing is slowest than when i installed
[09:27] <Mastermind> mwe: :D
[09:27] <zooko> I've traced this problem down far enough to conclude that altough reasonable permissions are present in /etc/udev/permissions.rules *and* (redundantly) in /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.rules,
[09:27] <mwe> Mastermind: does sudo -i give you root access?
[09:27] <nik222> nalioth: umount /mnt/stuff tells me /mnt/stuff not mounted
[09:27] <Adriaan> nalioth: I tried, but I cannot find it anywhere. Not on the 4.10 or 5.04 CD
[09:27] <zooko> that those reasonable permissions are either ignored or overwritten at some point in the execution of the udevstart command.
[09:27] <Adriaan> sorry 5.10
[09:27] <hj> I installed breezy ... and can't get my encrypted dvds playing ... where can I get the gstream-plugin-multiverse?
[09:27] <mwe> Mastermind: the prompt will change to # instead of $ if it works
[09:28] <nalioth> nik222: use synaptic and have it install it for you
[09:28] <El_Che> luzbelito: formatting wouldn't do much (like in windows)
[09:28] <nalioth> nik222: sorry, not you
[09:28] <gnomefreak> is there a way to apt-get install emacs and the extras with one command (at one time) or do i have to apt-get install each package?
[09:28] <El_Che> luzbelito: brb, phone
[09:28] <nalioth> Adriaan: use synaptic and have it install it for you
[09:28] <Mastermind> mwe: nothing
[09:28] <vbgunz> kbrooks, I am currently trying this but am a blinking prompt cursor "tar --extract /media/NW-HD1/home_v4.tar *.exe
[09:28] <vbgunz> "
[09:28] <zer0`> rick_ sudo gedit /etc/fstab , go to the options column for your ntfs partition and replace the options with this  rw,user,umask=000 then unmount the ntfs in disk manager and type sudo mount -a to mount it again from a terminal
[09:28] <snooo> any ideas?
[09:28] <nalioth> nik222: i'd comment out the line in your fstab for your new disk, and restart the box (that's just me)
[09:28] <balzac> what should I use for dialup? pon/poff dialup daemon crashes my system sometimes
[09:28] <Jowi> hj, i think you need the libdvdcss2
[09:29] <mwe> Mastermind: I have no clue why it's broken. sorry. but broken it sounds indeed
[09:29] <zooko> I've asked about this problem a few times before on this channel, but I've gotten no takers.
[09:29] <luzbelito> El_Che, but it was working ok. one day firefox stops working and i must install mozilla. flash is stopping all...
[09:29] <Adriaan> nalioth: Bit of a problem, the driver I am trying to compile is the one for my Wi-fi connection so I cannot get onto the internet! Can i download it somewhere? install it manually in someway?
[09:29] <zooko> Is there another channel for "trickier" or more low-level system problems?
[09:29] <Mastermind> mwe: okay, thank you, but I think there's not really a solution, hm? I gonna have to wait till the ship-it CDs arrive :D
[09:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hj about sources
[09:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hj about repos
[09:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hj about synaptic
[09:29] <nik222> nalioth: would be great if synaptic would install my hard drive for me :D i will try uncomenting and restarting and manually mounting again, unfortunatly i have to run but I will come back later and let you know how it went, thanks for your help, very much appreciated!
[09:29] <PatrikJohansson> mwa: if i use the gui to check connection properties for ath0 it says its disconnected, hmmm
[09:29] <patrickj> hey
[09:30] <nalioth> Adriaan: if it can't be found on the install cd, find a cat5 cable for use installing it
[09:30] <patrickj> how can I install php_mcrypt?
[09:30] <hj> repos ... I know - but where is the gstream-plugin-multiverse?
[09:30] <patrickj> I need it for some web development
[09:30] <nalioth> nik222: be safe
[09:30] <Mastermind> mwe: see you, and thank you one more time ;)
[09:30] <tellnes> hey, after fresh install of ubuntu, i dont have sound in wolf et or rhythmbox, yet i have sound in vlc sincei downloaded vlc and the plugins for it, anyone know what plugings or packages i need to get sound in rhythmbox and wolf et etc..?
[09:30] <nalioth> patrickj: use synaptic
[09:30] <patrickj> I did
[09:30] <patrickj> wait the add remove programs thing, right?
[09:30] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: yes? at least it's not just indicating everything is working fine then :|
[09:30] <gnomefreak> patrickj,  yes
[09:30] <Jowi> !info gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[09:31] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse: (All Multiverse GStreamer plugins), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 56 kB
[09:31] <mwe> Mastermind: good luck when the cds arrive
[09:31] <nalioth> patrickj: system > admin > synaptic
[09:31] <Mastermind> mwe: thank you ;)
[09:31] <gnomefreak> or that way
[09:31] <patrickj> got it
[09:31] <patrickj> thanks ;)
[09:31] <PatrikJohansson> mwe: thought maybe you had an idea ;) ??
[09:32] <Jowi> hj, enable multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list and 'sudo apt-get update'
[09:32] <zooko> I guess the next step is to run udevstart under strace and see which of those two files, if either, that it reads...
[09:32] <hj> Jowi: I tried ... I got a message which told me: the addres is not correct
[09:33] <Jowi> hj, try this one: deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[09:33] <nalioth> hj: read what ubotu has sent you. the instructions are easy to follow
[09:34] <hj> Jowi: Thank you ... I'll try! - Bye
[09:34] <NoWhereMan> have anybody made work a conexant usb adsl modem with ubuntu breezy badger? I'm going mad (and, no,  ain't gonna buy a router :D)
[09:34] <odat> what are the best backport repositories?
[09:34] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: not as long as all output from route, ifconfig and iwconfig looks sane
[09:34] <NoUse> !tell odat about repos
[09:35] <anelka> no internet on gnome,but wget and ping works on console,any ideas about the problem?
[09:35] <zooko> Argh.  I think I'll hack /etc/init.d/udev and tell it to do "chmod -R go+u /dev" after it finishes its work.  >:-(
[09:35] <Jowi> anelka: can you ping 216.239.59.99 and also www.google.com ?
[09:35] <phyzome> My sources.list file is a little funky after the upgrade
[09:36] <gnomefreak> ok lets try this is there a way to install emacs (easy way) and get everything i need for gcc and C code?
[09:36] <phyzome> Where can I find a standard sources.list?
[09:36] <phyzome> for Breezy?
[09:36] <anelka> i can ping anything
[09:36] <zooko> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux/tree/browse_frm/thread/5048461120169139/c72f13408f7078b6?rnum=1&hl=en&q=udev+root+root+permissions&_done=%2Fgroup%2Falt.os.linux%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F5048461120169139%2F14a2033f07682574%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dudev+root+root+permissions%26rnum%3D9%26hl%3Den%26#doc_87320e7cfaaec8ba
[09:36] <zooko> ^-- here's another guy who seemed to have my problem, but nobody answered him.
[09:36] <anindya> anlelka : dns names I think you are missing system > administration > networking
[09:36] <Jowi> gnomefreak: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell phyzome about sources
[09:37] <gnomefreak> Jowi,  that will give me the base too?
[09:37] <Jowi> gnomefreak: it should...
[09:37] <nalioth> gnomefreak: build-essential will give you quite a few programs to compile programs with
[09:37] <gnomefreak> ok thank you i will try it now
[09:38] <phyzome> ah, nice
[09:38] <vbgunz> anyone know how to *REPAIR* a corrupt TAR archive?
[09:38] <Jowi> anelka: can you access the web with elinks?
[09:38] <anelka> elinks?
[09:38] <anelka> is it a gtk based or txt based
[09:39] <anelka> explorer
[09:39] <anelka> nothing works on gnome
[09:39] <anelka> gaim fails connect
[09:39] <Jowi> anelka: elinks is a text-based (ncurses i believe) browser.
[09:39] <odat> there isn't any backport repository for breezy yet?
[09:39] <anelka> i dont have that installed
[09:39] <gnomefreak> odat: no
[09:40] <gnomefreak> odat: if i remember right the backports wont be out until production of dapper drake starts
[09:40] <anelka> i dont know what causes the problem xsettings or gnome
[09:40] <deFrysk> odat, we need a dapper drake to create backports ;)
[09:41] <anelka> there is internet on console but not on x
[09:41] <ere> Is Ubuntu suitable for a educational setting (Primary school) is it easy to implement a fileserver where each user can store his files and a user authentication scheme that makes it possible to log on from any workstation
[09:41] <anelka> firefox sometimes opens google only
[09:42] <deFrysk> !edubuntu
[09:42] <ubotu> I heard edubuntu is An Ubuntu version suitable for classroom use. See http://edubuntu.org
[09:42] <vbgunz> please, please, please help, I tarred something earlier and to my dismay, it is corrupt, please I need help. Tar quits because of too many errors. It just cannot extract the file I need to extract... Please someone enlighten me. How do I repair a corrupt TAR? Does anyone know? Will you please share?
[09:42] <Jowi> anelka: let's take it from the beginning. 1. you can ping. 2. you can access internet from console. 3. Can you access google if you type "216.239.59.99" in the firefox address bar?
[09:42] <mcmillan_33> does anyone know how to pass a file as an attachment to thunderbird straight from the command-line? i would like to make a "Email-To" script for nautilus. or does something like this already exist?
[09:42] <phyzome> vbgunz: I think you're in the wrong room.
[09:42] <pavka> hi all
[09:42] <vbgunz> phyzome, yeah, I believe it...
[09:43] <anelka> jowi im on xp now
[09:43] <Jowi> anelka: oh
[09:43] <anelka> 1 and 2 is true
[09:43] <anelka> 3 i dont know
[09:43] <phyzome> What does a google search for: tar repair recover  :turn up?
[09:43] <gnomefreak> :(
[09:43] <Jowi> anelka: hard to troubleshoot from xp
[09:43] <gnomefreak> i did  sudo apt-get install build-essential and now where do i find it i tried running it in terminal with "emacs" and nope and nothing in menu for it
[09:44] <occy> sorry for the parts/joins
[09:44] <anelka> btw i typed "wget www.google.com" in console and i saw its messages
[09:44] <occy> fixing my xchat
[09:44] <anelka> saying resolving www.google.com
[09:44] <pavka> can someone help me with gnome-panel? Ive one of it on right side of desktop and i can more width than 120px. Its posible?
[09:44] <anelka> then it finds some ip number
[09:44] <anelka> loads index.html
[09:44] <phyzome> nalioth: that breezy sources file just causes a whole bunch of errors
[09:44] <phyzome> wait, I reloaded
[09:44] <mcmillan_33> does anyone know how to pass a file as an attachment to thunderbird straight from the command-line? i would like to make a "Email-To" script for nautilus. or does something like this already exist?
[09:44] <phyzome> it's fine
[09:45] <anelka> but on firefox it says "looking for xxx" then hangs all the time
[09:45] <Dave> so any other stuff i should know
[09:45] <anelka> maybe its a dns problem,but why doesnt gaim connect as well
[09:45] <r0xoR> what's a clever non-vulgar name for asshole?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> butthead
[09:46] <pavka> r0xoR: cau roxor :)
[09:46] <r0xoR> hmm... butthead
[09:46] <Jowi> anelka: well, if you can ping your dns servers they should be ok
[09:46] <r0xoR> close - anything without the fecal reference?
[09:46] <nalioth> r0xoR: please not in here
[09:46] <nalioth> r0xoR: take it out of this channel please
[09:46] <collusion> hey all, which package includes cairo.h?
[09:47] <anelka> Jowi im wondering if the problem maybe caused by my new modem,i mean is it linux uncompitible
[09:47] <kkathman> nalioth: have you heard of any bug or complaint regarding samba shares failing to refesh?
[09:47] <ubuntu> so
[09:47] <nalioth> collusion: install and use "apt-file" to search for it on your box
[09:47] <r0xoR> nalioth, aight, i'm just looking for a good word - writing an article that can't be "over the top" and i need to replace the word "asshole" sorry
[09:47] <Dave> how can i make a slide show in ubuntu linux 5.04
[09:47] <r0xoR> i'll leave it
[09:47] <pavka> collusion: libcario-dev? :) U can use packages.ubuntu.com :)
[09:47] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, yeah, got it working :)
[09:47] <Jowi> anelka: if you can ping you should be alright. can't imagine why you can ping and not browse.
[09:47] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: great. what was wrong?
[09:48] <Astemd> I asked a while ago for mplayer repository
[09:48] <nalioth> Dave: there are many programs to do slideshows
[09:48] <Astemd> I have found it in multiverse
[09:48] <nalioth> kkathman: no i have not
[09:48] <collusion> pavka: sweet, thanks.
[09:48] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, just had to reboot and disable my eth0, (and i changed my ip addres )
[09:48] <Astemd> if somebody needs it :-)
[09:48] <Dave> please list a few
[09:48] <Jowi> anelka: you should try to enter googles ip in the addressbar. a good way of knowing if it is DNS or not
[09:48] <ronie> ol
[09:48] <nalioth> Dave: what kind of slideshow?
[09:48] <pavka> ugh
[09:48] <Dave> picture slide show
[09:48] <stevenr_> i have a question about creating folders in batches on the command line
[09:48] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, so i actually dont know what was wrong but it works, and im so happy now !!!!!!
[09:49] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: yeah
[09:49] <nalioth> Dave: almost all of the picture viewers have a slideshow feature
[09:49] <PatrikJohansson> mwe, and thanks for your help btw
[09:49] <mwe> PatrikJohansson: you're welcome
[09:49] <ronie> ol
[09:49] <stevenr_> if I have a txt file with two columns, the first the folder name, and the second a file name, is it possible to create a folder and then place the file in that folder
[09:49] <Dave> eye of gnome i do not know where the function is
[09:50] <dazzlindan> hello. i have kopete installed.  i can't start it unless using sudo because it doesn't have permission to wrote to the directories it requires to save config files (ie.  ~/.kde/Shared).  How can i solve this?  How would i give kopete permission to do so?
[09:50] <mindamp_> im looking for a package that will email me whenever theres a filesystem change to a certain directory....
[09:50] <vengeful> could just change the permissions on the dir to 777
[09:50] <mindamp_> or file permission changes..
[09:50] <vengeful> if you want the quick way
[09:51] <mindamp_> i had heard of one in particular, but the name won't come to me right now...
[09:51] <mindamp_> could someone shout a few out?
[09:51] <mwe> dazzlindan: that directory is not owned by you, since you get access errors?
[09:51] <dazzlindan> i only get access errors with kopete.
[09:51] <yo2lux> when i need smaller fonts in ubuntu i need to set the dpi?
[09:51] <dazzlindan> i'm logged in as the user of the files
[09:52] <dazzlindan> i'm the owner of the directory
[09:52] <Dave> I have figured it out thank you for your help untill next time
[09:52] <Jowi> Dave, eog has got the slideshow option in the "view" menu
[09:52] <mwe> dazzlindan: ls -l ~/.kde/share confirms that?
[09:52] <Jowi> Dave, gtksee is pretty nice. a acdsee clone
[09:52] <mwe> dazzlindan: ls -ld that should be
[09:53] <mindamp_> uhm...
[09:53] <mindamp_> anyone?
[09:53] <mindamp_> tripwire
[09:53] <mindamp_> ...
[09:53] <mindamp_> whats what it was
[09:53] <mindamp_> you bastards
[09:53] <xxenon> hello
[09:53] <xxenon> anything special to do to get mp3 support in Xine (Breezy) ?
[09:53] <jmcnaught> dazzlindan: sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername ~/.kde
[09:53] <Jowi> ubotu: tell xxenon about mp3
[09:53] <xxenon> thx
[09:54] <Bachus9000> I've been trying to get wpa_supplicant to work on Breezy and have had no luck.  Is it possible that the wireless manager included with Breezy is somehow conflicting with wpa_supplicant? I've tried both prism54 drivers and the Windows drivers (through ndiswrapper, of course) and they both have the same result.
[09:54] <el-stupido> if a file is read only? How do I set it to Write?
[09:54] <el-stupido> and is there a graphic way of doing this?
[09:54] <dazzlindan> kdeinit: Aborting. No write access to '/home/danny/.ICEauthority'.
[09:54] <cribbon> hello all, i am having a problem at boot. Just installed, i need to remove everything that has anything with firewall to do ( atleast things that occure at boot ). How do i do this?
[09:54] <deFrysk> el-stupido, in properties I believe
[09:55] <Jowi> el-stupido: chmod +w filename. if you are the owner of the file you can change it in the right-click properties menu
[09:55] <nalioth> cribbon: have you enabled a firewall?
[09:55] <cribbon> rephrase - firewire.
[09:55] <rem_>  dazz go in "alt+2" for ex.. log in as root and give rw permission to that file and ull be able to log in ..
[09:55] <sander> hi.. how can I change the menu/system language.. I got hoary ubuntu?
[09:55] <deFrysk> el-stupido, rightclic te file and properties permissions if you prefer the graphical way
[09:55] <el-stupido> Jowi: I'm not.. but since i'm not logged in as root i cant do it graphically by right clicking it
[09:55] <sander> I want to change the system language to english.
[09:55] <cribbon> nalioth, ment to write firewire. I'm a bit tired :D
[09:56] <KenSentMe1> hello, is someone here using ubuntu with skype? i have a problem typing my password
[09:56] <spudse> I want to run a command on startup (sessions->startup programs) that requires root/su, how do I do that ?
[09:56] <nalioth> cribbon: idk about starting and stopping things
[09:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cribbon about bum
[09:57] <Jowi> el-stupido: then 'sudo chmod a+w filename' (a = all) should do it. you can replace the 'a' with either 'g' for group or 'o' for owner.
[09:57] <paulo> I just install ubuntu, and my sound do not stop beep!!!
[09:57] <el-stupido> Jowi: thankyou
[09:57] <xxenon> Jowi - interesting reading..so...no mp3 ? (works in xmms tho ...)
[09:58] <Jowi> xxenon: mp3 is enabled through plugins due to legal restrictions.
[09:58] <El_Che> kalfakter: I do
[09:58] <xxenon> Jowi - and for xine ?
[09:58] <El_Che> kalfakter: works fine
[09:58] <KurtKraut> (paulo) But Ubuntu opens correctly ? Or the screen statys blank and the machine beeping ?
[09:58] <meelee> how can i change to another language in ubuntu???
[09:58] <Jowi> xxenon: for totem-xine you need gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:59] <spudse> are commands I add to system>preferences>sessions>startup run as root/superuser ?
[09:59] <El_Che> meelee: at the login prompt (language)
[09:59] <Jowi> xxenon: mad works with rhythmbox as well
[09:59] <Kyynara> could anybody tell my why this doesnt work? http://pastebin.com/398973
[09:59] <xxenon> Jowi - ok.
[09:59] <LazyAngel> i cant start pureftp :(
[09:59] <Bachus9000> Is anyone here familiar with wpa_supplicant and Breezy?
[09:59] <El_Che> Bachus9000: yep
[10:00] <KenSentMe1> hello, is someone here using ubuntu with skype? i have a problem typing my password
[10:00] <KenSentMe1> i can't type the full password
[10:00] <Koven> KenSentMe: delete your .Skype file
[10:00] <KenSentMe1> it is 8 char, but it stops at 6
[10:00] <ulaas> How can i use CDT plugin for eclipse with gcj-Eclipse under ubuntu?
[10:00] <LazyAngel> KenSentMe1: write the password here, so we can see what the problem is :D
[10:00] <KenSentMe1> ok
[10:00] <paulo> KurtKraut, only my sound is not working ..
[10:00] <Koven> rm -f ~/.Skype
[10:01] <KurtKraut> paulo but it is not working at all ?
[10:01] <paulo> Kuolio, no, it is working.. but just keep beeping without stop . hahahah
[10:01] <ulaas> any eclipse users around?
[10:02] <Bachus9000> El_Che I've tried following the guides in the wiki and forum, but I keep getting an "Authentication with 00:00:00... timed out" error.  Just before erroring out, it does find the correct MAC address for the router.
[10:02] <ThomasI> Hi, I am missing the libqt(3)-mt libary with hedgehog and cant find a way to install it? How can i do this?
[10:02] <dell500> are there any hidden configuration folders for evolution that I might need to backup for a format?
[10:02] <samue1>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY sophie
[10:03] <Blue-Omega> =\
[10:03] <samue1> oops lol
[10:03] <Blue-Omega> change your pass
[10:03] <GNULinuxer> samue1: change the pass
[10:03] <dreameen> my fellow ubuntu lovers, what do i put in /etc/fstab to mount my /swapfile at boot time
[10:03] <Jowi> ThomasI: sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[10:03] <El_Che> Bachus9000: did you give your network priority 9 in the config?
[10:04] <El_Che> ThomasI: skype?
[10:04] <LazyAngel> has anyone installed pureftpd?
[10:04] <samue1> whats the command to change pass?
[10:04] <El_Che> ThomasI: use the tar with static qt
[10:04] <GNULinuxer> dreameen: /dev/<swap>       none            swap    sw              0       0
[10:04] <zer0`> chpasswd
[10:04] <El_Che> samue1: passwd
[10:04] <Kyynara> could anybody tell my why this compilation doesnt work? http://pastebin.com/398973
[10:04] <ThomasI> El_Che: no opera
[10:04] <samue1> on irc?
[10:04] <zer0`> oops
[10:04] <KenSentMe1> where can i find the .skype file?
[10:05] <Jowi> ThomasI: sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[10:05] <KenSentMe1> it hasn't worked btw
[10:05] <Koven> KenSentMe1: in your home direcotry
[10:05] <Evil_Taco> I'm having a problem with GCC
[10:05] <El_Che> ThomasI: probably the same thing; They have a download with qt inside
[10:05] <El_Che> static
[10:05] <dreameen> GNULinuxer, Thank you truly
[10:05] <nalioth> kyncani: dodgy code, it looks like
[10:05] <Madpilot> ThomasI: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:05] <dell500> time to upgrade!!!!
[10:05] <Evil_Taco> I have it installed, but when I run a configure its saying its not there
[10:05] <nalioth> crap
[10:05] <Jowi> KenSentMe1: /home/username/.Skype (it's a capital S in .Skype)
[10:06] <nalioth> Kyynara: dodgy code it looks like
[10:06] <Koven> KenSentMe1: find with ls -a
[10:06] <paulo> there is any SOUNDCONFIG? our something like?
[10:07] <ScatterBrain> In Gnome, once I've "connected" to a network server (in my case a Samba share), how do I save files to it?  I see the link on the desktop, but I can't Browse for it.
[10:07] <ThomasI> Hmm i think the problem is I am running the machine behind a proxy.. any way I can tell apt-get to use proxy?
[10:07] <elad`> Whenever I boot into Ubuntu, my clock is pushed two hours into the future. Help?
[10:08] <elad`> (But not twice, I think.)
[10:08] <Evil_Taco> Is there anything else I'm supposed to do after running apt-get install gcc ?
[10:08] <ulaas> any eclipse users around?
[10:08] <ulaas> How can i use CDT plugin for eclipse with gcj-Eclipse under ubuntu?
[10:08] <nalioth> elad`: perhaps you should look at the winning lottery numbers b4 you reset your clock
[10:08] <TiMiDo> oh boy what a day
[10:08] <elad`> ulaas: What's Eclipse?
[10:08] <paulo> elad`, Java IDE
[10:08] <Bachus9000> El_Che: How do I do that?
[10:09] <dooglus> Evil_Taco: type "type gcc" in a shell - what do you see?
[10:09] <Bachus9000> (priority 9, that is--sorry about the delay)
[10:09] <KenSentMe1> Jowi: the problem is the fill in field in Skype
[10:09] <elad`> nalioth: I run the lottery, so this is a problem. My computer may be compromised, and I'll find out two hours too late. So, how do I fix this?
[10:09] <KenSentMe1> it's stops at 6 *
[10:09] <moshisushi> aa
[10:09] <nagui> #ubuntu
[10:09] <ulaas> elad`, it is the event when moon gets between earth and sun..
[10:09] <nalioth> elad`: i have no idea, but i dont think my lottery computer would be running on the internet
[10:09] <Kyynara> nalioth: I jsut spoke to the guy who made the code and he says that for some reason the compiler can't link it or something?
[10:09] <dell500> can someone help me with a copy error that i'm having when i copy my documents folder over to my backup drive
[10:10] <El_Che> Bachus9000: in your wpasupplicant config
[10:10] <bliggy> ok... now I was told that I need the z dev library to compile this dang program... tho I dont see it as an isntall option in the package manager... any clues?
[10:10] <El_Che> Bachus9000: you have a config?
[10:10] <Evil_Taco> dooglus, gcc is /usr/bin/gcc
[10:10] <nalioth> Kyynara: ask in #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel ( or ask again in here in a few minutes)
[10:10] <dooglus> Evil_Taco: and if you "ls -lL /usr/bin/gcc"?
[10:10] <moshisushi> eeh when trying to run firefox-installer i get this error
[10:10] <Jowi> KenSentMe1: all your settings will disappear, but it is worth a shot to delete the .Skype directory. 'rm -rf /home/username/.Skype'
[10:10] <nalioth> Evil_Taco: type "file /usr/bin/gcc"
[10:10] <Bachus9000> El_Che: Yes, /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[10:11] <dooglus> nalioth: it'll just be a symlink
[10:11] <moshisushi> can't find libstdc++.so.5
[10:11] <moshisushi> whats that???
[10:11] <El_Che> Bachus9000: you should have this in your config for your AP
[10:11] <El_Che> Bachus9000: priority=9
[10:11] <elad`> When dpkg shows "Setting up rufus (0.6.5-0ubuntu1) ...
[10:11] <elad`> RESULT=0", is that good or bad?
[10:11] <TiMiDo> an error moshisushi
[10:11] <nalioth> dooglus: symlink to "what" is what i'm looking for
[10:11] <moshisushi> TiMiDo: what?
[10:11] <KenSentMe1> i know but i tried and it didn't work
[10:11] <TiMiDo> elad` give more, explanation
[10:11] <El_Che> Bachus9000: lowe number, lower priority
[10:11] <El_Che> Bachus9000: so first he tries to connect to a 9 config, the 8 and so on
[10:11] <moshisushi> TiMiDo: what error? what did i do wrong?
[10:11] <elad`> Rufus is working, so I guess it means the installation is successful.
[10:12] <samue1> i have my windows drive mounted in /media/windows but i want to move it to my home directory, i have done that, is it safe to delete the folder in /media now without loosing the data from the windows partition?
[10:12] <Evil_Taco> dooglus, -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 89208 2005-10-01 09:16 /usr/bin/gcc
[10:12] <KenSentMe1> Jowi: the password field won't take the 7th and 8th char, both being a non-numerical
[10:12] <nalioth> samue1: leave it where it is, please
[10:12] <dooglus> Evil_Taco: so you have gcc installed.
[10:12] <KenSentMe1> Jowi: like & and %
[10:12] <El_Che> samue1: just umount it and mount it somewhere else
[10:12] <strannik> guys, how do I add users in ubuntu?
[10:12] <samue1> nalioth that gives my 5 year old write access
[10:12] <nalioth> samue1: symlink it from /media/ to your $HOMEDIR
[10:12] <TiMiDo> strannik adduser
[10:12] <Jowi> samue1: /media is nice to have since gnome will automount all your removable drives there (mp3, cameras etc)
[10:13] <Evil_Taco> Yeah, but when I try to run a ./configure file its saying its not there(?)
[10:13] <dooglus> Evil_Taco: what does configure say?
[10:13] <KenSentMe1> Jowi: could this be because i'm on a laptop?
[10:13] <LinuxMan> what is the best Linux distro to Enterprise?
[10:13] <TiMiDo> Evil_Taco check the directory
[10:13] <nalioth> samue1: you dont have a restricted account for your 5 year old?
[10:13] <TiMiDo> LinuxMan ubuntu
[10:13] <Evil_Taco> Its in the right place, TiMiDo
[10:13] <LinuxMan> why?
[10:13] <LinuxMan> i use Ubuntu
[10:13] <TiMiDo> Evil_Taco what error ?
[10:13] <moshisushi> TiMiDo: what did you mean by "an error" ??
[10:13] <LinuxMan> but
[10:13] <tidalwav1> Hi, people, I still can't get my NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 to work right with the legacy drivers.
[10:13] <Jowi> KenSentMe1: oh, i never heard of that problem...
[10:13] <TiMiDo> moshisushi yeah you said you had an error?
[10:13] <samue1> yeah but the windows drive still shows on her desktop
[10:13] <TiMiDo> !tell tidalwav1 about nvidia
[10:13] <LinuxMan> don't know if this is good for large servers
[10:14] <KenSentMe1> Jowi, me neither
[10:14] <tidalwav1> TiMiDo: no fun
[10:14] <nalioth> samue1: remove it or restrict her access
[10:14] <TiMiDo> LinuxMan try freebsd for servers
[10:14] <moshisushi> TiMiDo: yeah the installer cant find libstdc++
[10:14] <Jowi> KenSentMe1: i mean, all the % and stuff work everywhere else
[10:14] <TiMiDo> moshisushi apt-cache search libstdc++ or libstdc
[10:14] <dooglus> samue1: if you have umounted the partition, then the /media/windows directory should be empty.  if its empty then its safe to "rmdir" it
[10:14] <KenSentMe1> Jowi, i can't even paste the password in the field, can you?
[10:14] <Evil_Taco> doogler, aaron@My-Ubuntu:~/stuff/snes9x-1.43-src/snes9x$ ./configure
[10:14] <Evil_Taco>  loading cache ./config.cache
[10:14] <Evil_Taco>  checking for gcc... gcc
[10:14] <Evil_Taco>  checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[10:14] <Evil_Taco>  configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[10:14] <TiMiDo> oh
[10:14] <LinuxMan> you mean that BSD is better than RH, Suse, CentOS
[10:14] <LinuxMan> ?
[10:14] <TiMiDo> too late
[10:14] <Jowi> KenSentMe1: will check. wait
[10:14] <samue1> dooglus thx thats what i needed to know :)
[10:14] <TiMiDo> yes LinuxMan bsd are meant for servers
[10:14] <KenSentMe1> Jowi, k
[10:15] <dooglus> samue1: if it's still mounted, the removing the directory isn't safe.  it probably isn't even possible, since you'll have mounted the windows stuff readonly I hope
[10:15] <Fanskapet> noooooooooo
[10:15] <LinuxMan> but, ho is the license of FreeBSD?
[10:15] <Evil_Taco> Doogler?
[10:15] <nalioth> Evil_Taco: please dont paste in here
[10:15] <Fanskapet> don't say i need to connect a monitor to the ubuntu machine *again* to get the old VNC up and running
[10:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Evil_Taco about paste
[10:15] <Fanskapet> i think im going nuts!
[10:15] <Evil_Taco> sorry
[10:15] <TiMiDo> Evil_Taco sudo apt-get install gcc and build-essential
[10:15] <Jowi> KenSentMe1: yep, i can paste my password
[10:15] <KenSentMe1> damn
[10:16] <blueyed> Has anyone tried ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso (from torrent). It gives "Could not find kernel image: linux" here..?! (ISOLINUX error message)
[10:16] <tidalwav1> TiMoDo: let's see if the wiki helped at all, if not I'm coming back and annoying you...peace out
[10:16] <dooglus> Evil_Taco: make a file in your home directory called test.c and put this into it:    main(){}
[10:16] <TiMiDo> interesting
[10:16] <samue1> ok so how do i change my password in irc please?
[10:16] <dooglus> Evil_Taco: then save the test.c file and type "gcc test.c".  what do you see?
[10:16] <Jowi> KenSentMe1: maybe you should try to remove and install skype again
[10:16] <KenSentMe1> that's an ideA
[10:16] <nalioth> blueyed: have you checked your md5s on the disc?
[10:16] <xam> ./join #ubuntu.fr
[10:17] <Evil_Taco> Just a sec, dooglus.
[10:17] <blueyed> nalioth: k3b has checked them before burning, will do it now with the image.
[10:17] <dooglus> blueyed: I tried the iso from torrent, yes.  it worked for me
[10:17] <Koven> !repositories
[10:17] <ubotu> I heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[10:17] <nalioth> blueyed: yes ubuntu likes to be burned sloooowly for tasty ubuntu goodness
[10:17] <AD|GA> 24.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.216
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[10:17] <TiMiDo> oh boy
[10:17] <PatrikJohansson> hmmm, my wlan card is going fro active to idle and then i cant seem to get it back working again, any ideas??
[10:17] <AD|GA> 24.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.21624.4.74.216
[10:17] <Evil_Taco> Build essential got it to work
[10:17] <TiMiDo> here we come again
[10:17] <LinuxMan> Timido: BSD is Free?
[10:17] <Evil_Taco> great job, thanks
[10:17] <El_Che> samue1: /msg nickserv help set password
[10:17] <TiMiDo> LinuxMan yes it is www.freebsd.org
[10:18] <LinuxMan> hummmm
[10:18] <el-stupido> Ok.. I am trying to overwrite a file with a file from my Windows drive and it says "Unable to change permissions"
[10:18] <el-stupido> Ok.. I am trying to overwrite a file with a file from my Windows drive and it says "Unable to change permissions"
[10:18] <Bachus9000> El_Che: No difference.  The output from wpa_supplicant is like: "Trying to associate with <mac address of router> (SSID=<SSID> freq=2462 MHz)" and then "Authentication with 00:00... timed out"
[10:18] <nalioth> el-stupido: windows files dont have permissions
[10:18] <el-stupido> oops
[10:18] <TiMiDo> el-stupido yeah you don't have access to it
[10:18] <el-stupido> damn
[10:18] <dell500> Does anyone know why my Documents won't copy over and have permission denied?
[10:18] <El_Che> Bachus9000: are you sure your psk is ok?
[10:18] <dell500> probably a stupid q, but whatev
[10:18] <Jowi> el-stupido: that's normal. fat32 does not have permissions as nalioth said
[10:18] <LinuxMan> Timido: why you say BSD is the best? based i what?
[10:18] <El_Che> Bachus9000: take a stupid easy psk to test
[10:18] <el-stupido> nalioth: any other way to do it?
[10:18] <TiMiDo> LinuxMan is based on Unix
[10:19] <el-stupido> tsimply delete the existing one and paste nother one?
[10:19] <LinuxMan> is a good reason
[10:19] <LinuxMan> jejejejeje
[10:19] <LinuxMan> but, linux is based in unix too?
[10:19] <TiMiDo> yeah
[10:19] <LinuxMan> then?
[10:19] <Bachus9000> El_Che: I've tried it without any encryption at all and not had luck.
[10:19] <TiMiDo> LinuxMan try this www.freebsd.org/handbook all the answers you're asking here
[10:19] <TiMiDo> good luck
[10:19] <taoc7391> i need help plz !! i want to use javac with ubuntu !!!!
[10:20] <rem_> does anyone use aMule here .. ?
[10:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell taoc7391 about java
[10:20] <TiMiDo> !tell taoc7391 about javadeb
[10:20] <el-stupido> Jowi: Can I copy a file from windows and paste it in linux and expect it to work?
[10:20] <rem_> I have a q. Is there a way to filter porn ?
[10:20] <lotus_anima> i have samba on a linux machine and have set it to share home directories, but they're passworded. this works fine in windows... i'm asked once for the password. what about linux? i'm in ubuntu and can't seem to access the "homes" directory.
[10:20] <TiMiDo> rem_ man iptables
[10:20] <Jowi> el-stupido: yes. as long as it is not an exe file :)
[10:21] <nalioth> rem_: filter it in what?
[10:21] <rem_> aMule
[10:21] <el-stupido> Jowi:  its not.. its an ini file
[10:21] <LinuxMan> Timido: what about hardware support?
[10:21] <nalioth> Jowi: some .exe files are actually zip or rar archives, which can be used in linux
[10:21] <Sonderblade> is it the developers or the .deb-maintainers that are responsible for making install desktop-icons?
[10:21] <rem_> I guess i could make it go through the web proxy which filters it ..
[10:21] <LinuxMan> some people say that BSD is dying
[10:21] <elad`> How do I minimize a program into the notification area instead of the taskbar?
[10:21] <tidalwav1> TiMoDo: It didn't work. :)
[10:21] <dell500> how do you make a tar archive?
[10:21] <TiMiDo> dell500 man tar
[10:21] <rem_> but i didnt see anything in aMule, like Kazaa lite had to filter out porn ..
[10:22] <blueyed> nalioth: damn, the .iso torrent was not completely received by azureus.. another one has finished and I did not look close enough.. %-/
[10:22] <Sonderblade> dell500: tar cvzf directory/
[10:22] <rem_> its useful for little kids .. :P
[10:22] <DShepherd> !tell DShepherd about tar
[10:22] <loli> Hello #ubuntu
[10:22] <nalioth> dell500: or you can right-click on something and see your options
[10:22] <samue1> El_Che, thanks
[10:22] <Jowi> el-stupido: the files does not change just because you move them to another filesystem. linux ext3 adds permissions to the file but that is all. if you move the ini file back to the windows disk, the permissions will be lost but the file itself will stay the same.
[10:22] <tidalwav1> STILL can't get my NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 to work, and I followed the wiki instructions...I keep getting an error about no usable screen.
[10:22] <Sonderblade> elad`: you can't, atleast not in a simple way
[10:22] <loli> haha, the topic answered one of my questions for me! ^_^
[10:22] <dell500> how do you untar into a certain dir?
[10:23] <rem_> oh well I'll give it a try through thge web proxy ..
[10:23] <frank23> tidalwav1: you need the older drivers for that
[10:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dell500 about xcli
[10:23] <Jowi> nalioth: good point :)
[10:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dell500 about cli
[10:23] <elad`> Sonderblade: What about a complicated way? Also, what's the key-combination for switching between virtual desktops again?
[10:23] <tidalwav1> frank23: I am using nvidia-glx-legacy
[10:23] <samue1> cya all
[10:23] <frank23> tidalwav1: right
[10:23] <tidalwav1> frank23: well, trying to.
[10:23] <nalioth> elad`: ctrl-alt-left/right arrow
[10:23] <tidalwav1> frank23: but it still doesn't work.
[10:23] <dell500> awesome, thanks nalioth
[10:23] <Alinux> someone who can help me with gnomemeeting?
[10:23] <Sonderblade> elad`: hacking metacity/gnome-panel
[10:23] <dooglus> Sonderblade: be careful.  you can cause people to lose files if you give them bad 'tar' commands
[10:24] <el-stupido> GAH!
[10:24] <frank23> tidalwav1: did you do nvidia-glx-config enable? (or equivalent)
[10:24] <Whistler> Breezy works with my radeon perfectly.Just 3 simple  commands and u r done
[10:24] <tidalwav1> frank23: yes, I did.
[10:24] <Whistler> I  love  it
[10:24] <el-stupido> I moved the original file to home and now i cant move any file to that folder
[10:24] <frank23> tidalwav1: and restarted X
[10:24] <tidalwav1> frank23: yes.
[10:24] <elad`> Sonderblade: I'm using KDE.
[10:24] <el-stupido> neither the windows one nor the home one
[10:24] <tidalwav1> frank23: it said could not insert nvidia.ko
[10:24] <Whistler> :)
[10:24] <tidalwav1> frank23: except the file exsists.
[10:24] <Sonderblade> dooglus: THEY should be careful :)
[10:25] <Jowi> el-stupido: /home or /home/user ?
[10:25] <frank23> tidalwav1: sudo modprobe nvidia
[10:25] <el-stupido> Jowi: /home
[10:25] <el-stupido> Jowi: sorry /home/user
[10:25] <Jowi> el-stupido: 'cd /home' + 'sudo mv filename /home/user'
[10:25] <tidalwav1> frank23: FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device
[10:25] <LinuxMan> Timido: all linux commands are supported in BSD?
[10:26] <khermans> ca someone tell me how to shut off the beep in terminal?
[10:26] <frank23> tidalwav1: the driver doesn't think the card is there?
[10:26] <tidalwav1> frank23: apparently?
[10:26] <Jowi> el-stupido: 'ls -la filename' please
[10:26] <sven-tek_gaim> what are linux commands? gnu?
[10:26] <dooglus> khermans: in gnome-terminal?
[10:26] <tidalwav1> frank23: is it because of the 686 kernel?
[10:26] <khermans> dooglus: no in bash from the command line, no X
[10:26] <Koven> LinuxMan: POSIX i think
[10:26] <LinuxMan> yes GNU
[10:26] <strannik> thanks a bye
[10:26] <LinuxMan> ok
[10:26] <frank23> tidalwav1: I don't know how to help you. 686 should be ok
[10:26] <elad`> nalioth That doesn't work.
[10:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sven-tek_gaim about cli
[10:26] <khermans> dooglus: computer beeping
[10:27] <el-stupido> Jowi: -rw-rw-rw-  1 shantanu shantanu 31303 2005-10-21 01:35 UnrealTournament.ini
[10:27] <loli> What packages would I search for to install MP3 support on Ubuntu?
[10:27] <tidalwav1> frank23: okay, thanks, time to blare another message to the room
[10:27] <tidalwav1> anyone have any idea why a RIVA TNT2 won't work with nvidia-glx-legacy?
[10:27] <nalioth> elad`: hm works for me
[10:27] <elad`> ctrl-alt-right?
[10:27] <dooglus> khermans: "set bell-style none"
[10:27] <taoc7391> thank's to ubotu !! javac is now working !!!!...
[10:27] <elad`> nalioth winkey-tab works for me, I found out.
[10:27] <frank23> tidalwav1: did you try nvidia-glx as well?
[10:27] <Jowi> el-stupido: you should be able to move it.
[10:27] <KenSentMe1> Jowi, i reinstalled, but it doesn't work
[10:27] <nalioth> elad`: heh, i'm on a macintosh
[10:27] <khermans> dooglus: nope, still does it
[10:28] <yep> hello
[10:28] <mwe> khermans: set bellstyle none in /etc/inputrc
[10:28] <loli`> hello
[10:28] <tidalwav1> frank23: I did before, and it didn't work either.
[10:28] <dooglus> khermans: why is it beeping?
[10:28] <el-stupido> Jowi: what would be the command in Konsole to move it?
[10:28] <frank23> tidalwav1: o
[10:28] <LinuxMan> ok, what do you think about LPI Certification?
[10:28] <khermans> dooglus: like when i hit TAB
[10:28] <Jowi> KenSentMe1: ouch. that's the weirdest thing i ever heard of.
[10:28] <KenSentMe1> the funny thing is i can type the password in the username field, but not in the passowrd
[10:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell el-stupido about cli
[10:28] <elad`> That explains it/.
[10:28] <yep> i'm looking for  kernel-source-2.6.12-9 where i can check it plaese
[10:28] <Jowi> el-stupido: mv filename todirectory
[10:28] <KenSentMe1> when i type just four chars (like jowi), it works and i can paste
[10:28] <khermans> mwe: but shoudltn it immediately take affect?
[10:28] <taoc7391> another question plz : how can i back to the default desktop  ???
[10:29] <KenSentMe1> Jowi, how did you install Skype?
[10:29] <mwe> khermans: no at next login, and it's bell-style, not bellstyle iirc
[10:29] <yep> someone can help me
[10:29] <taoc7391> i mean the desktop that ubuntu install ?
[10:29] <KenSentMe1> Jowi, i've installe through the SkypeHowTo from the ubuntu wiki
[10:29] <dooglus> khermans: I don't hear a beep when I hit tab at all
[10:29] <el-stupido> mv: cannot move `UnrealTournament.ini' to `/usr/local/games/ut/System/UnrealTournament.ini': Permission denied
[10:29] <gigaclon> yep, yes probably
[10:29] <yep> cool
[10:29] <Jowi> KenSentMe1: i think it may be that your password contain % and stuff. change your password at skype.com to a somewhat normal one might help.
[10:29] <el-stupido> Jowi: mv: cannot move `UnrealTournament.ini' to `/usr/local/games/ut/System/UnrealTournament.ini': Permission denied
[10:29] <Bachus9000> El_Che: Should I try killing whatever Ubuntu has running by default to manage wireless connections?  Could it be interferring?
[10:29] <yep> i'm looking for  kernel-source-2.6.12-9 where i can check it plaese
[10:30] <KenSentMe1> yes, i know, but it works on windows
[10:30] <khermans> dooglus: in a virtual terminal?
[10:30] <KenSentMe1> so i'd rather not change it
[10:30] <gigaclon> yep, synaptic?
[10:30] <Madpilot> el-stupido: do "sudo mv <whatever>"
[10:30] <yep> no
[10:30] <confrey> hi everybody
[10:30] <dooglus> khermans: right.
[10:30] <yep> i can't find somme
[10:30] <tidalwav1> no one knows anything about NVIDIA legacy drivers?
[10:30] <nalioth> yep: use synaptic
[10:30] <khermans> dooglus: ok, i guess you need to logout and back in -- that worked
[10:30] <dooglus> khermans: I may have turned it off somehow
[10:30] <Jowi> el-stupido: you don't have write rights to /usr/local/games it seems. Madpilot just gave you the correct answer
[10:30] <yep> tyr it
[10:30] <seymour> I have just installed the new version of ubuntu BB 5.10 and I am having trouble with it freezing when I try to bring it out of hibernation.
[10:30] <khermans> dooglus: i wonder why setting it immediately didnt work though
[10:30] <dooglus> khermans: where did you put that set command?
[10:31] <yep> i'm sure about that
[10:31] <dooglus> (I don't use that set command, by the way)
[10:31] <khermans> dooglus: it's now in inputrc, but i tried setting it on the CLI straight first
[10:31] <dooglus> weird.
[10:31] <mwe> khermans: set bell-style none in /etc/inputrc will work
[10:31] <Jowi> KenSentMe1: there is only one way to install skype. sudo dpkg -i skype.deb
[10:31] <khermans> mwe:  yeah it did thanks
[10:31] <cevizoglu> seymour: so have I
[10:31] <rysiek> hello all
[10:31] <tidalwav1> forget it, I'll just post on the forums, thanks for trying guys
[10:32] <gigaclon> is there a way i can open the file browser in the directory I am in in a terminal
[10:32] <gigaclon> ?
[10:32] <cevizoglu> gigaclon: nautilus .
[10:32] <khermans> last question, i accidently told exim (during apt install) to only do local delivery, but I want it to be able to mail out to people
[10:32] <khermans> isnt there a zpt-config exim to redo that step again?
[10:32] <yep> nalioth have U got adress forthat
[10:32] <nalioth> gigaclon: in konqueror, yes
[10:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell yep about synaptic
[10:32] <rysiek> does anybody know how to make GRUB display a "nice graphical" menu instead of the text one (like, say, in lilo)?
[10:33] <yep> no answer
[10:33] <yep> i can't find it
[10:33] <trans_err> rysiek: its in the menu.lst
[10:33] <nalioth> yep: look at your private messages
[10:33] <rysiek> actually - it's not
[10:33] <cribbon> where can i find what happens during boot ? and how do i change these things ? (non-grpahical if possible)
[10:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cribbon about bum
[10:34] <trans_err> If I have a default install how can I build things against the kernel (i do have the source), but it lacks the build directory
[10:34] <rysiek> root@eclipse:/boot/grub # cat menu.lst | grep graph
[10:34] <rysiek> root@eclipse:/boot/grub #
[10:34] <rysiek> trans_err:
[10:34] <cribbon> nalioth, tried that, cant start it. is there a way without graphic?
[10:34] <trans_err> rysiek: #color cyan/blue white/blue
[10:35] <trans_err> rysiek: and comment out hiddenmenu
[10:35] <nalioth> cribbon: you've tried rescue mode?
[10:35] <rysiek> trans_err: that is still in the text mode
[10:35] <Jowi> cribbon: /var/log contain log files. /etc/init.d the startup scripts. /etc/rc2.d the scripts that get started at boottime.
[10:35] <trans_err> rysiek: its prettier
[10:35] <rysiek> trans_err: and I am talking about displaying an image
[10:35] <rysiek> trans_err: but not pretty enough ;)
[10:35] <trans_err> rysiek: yeah there is google around-- i've done it before
[10:36] <Jowi> cribbon: bum - bootup manager, is (even thought you probably don't want it) a graphical manager to handle/set those scripts
[10:36] <rysiek> all I have found on google is "graphmenu", but that requires a patch
[10:36] <Acill> http://ubuntuguide.org/ if I am a Pegasos ODW user will this sties guides still work for getting PPC installs?
[10:36] <trans_err> rysiek: i didn't say it'd be easy
[10:36] <rysiek> trans_err: I'd rather first asking if it's possible without patching & compiling GRUB :)
[10:36] <nalioth> Acill: stay away from ubuntuguide, see wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead
[10:37] <danl_B> is there any easy way to install and setup bootsplash without a kernel recompile?
[10:37] <Jowi> rysiek: i thought that grub in breezy already support bootsplash images....
[10:37] <trans_err> rysiek: what can of linux nerd are you :D
[10:37] <Acill> nalioth: Oh yeah? Bad info on the http://ubuntuguide.org/ site?
[10:37] <rysiek> trans_err: :)
[10:37] <rysiek> trans_err: a lazy one :] 
[10:37] <nalioth> Acill: see your priv msgs
[10:37] <trans_err> anyone have an answer to what I need to do to build things against the default kernel?
[10:37] <rysiek> Jowi: I thought so too
[10:38] <nalioth> trans_err: install gcc-3.4
[10:38] <rysiek> trans_err: kernel sources, I suppose
[10:38] <trans_err> rysiek: you need a build dir...
[10:38] <Jowi> rysiek: http://sleepybuddha.sl.funpic.de/ubuntu/
[10:38] <Acill> thanks, got it
[10:39] <Jowi> rysiek: the site talks about hoary not supporting it, but breezy should
[10:39] <rysiek> Jowi: ah, "splashimage" ;)
[10:39] <rysiek> Jowi: thx a lot, testing it right now :)
[10:39] <rysiek> Jowi: cu in a couple of minutes
[10:39] <Acill> is ubuntu x86 and PPC?
[10:41] <Madpilot> Acill: those and AMD64
[10:41] <confrey> I have just installed breezy, but I haven't the corrett resolution 1280*800 at 60 Hz of my notebook, like I had in hoary; what can I do?
[10:41] <hobbes_> how come i dont get audio with flash movies? like strongbad emails?
[10:41] <Jowi> confrey: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell confrey about fixres
[10:42] <dooglus> how do I tell firefox to use azureus to open "magnet:?..." links?
[10:42] <nalioth> dooglus: in prefs, you can change file type associations
[10:43] <hobbes_> does anyone know why my audio doesnt work with flash?
[10:43] <hobbes_> i get system audio and mp3s work
[10:43] <sorsis> i have just installed ubuntu and can't figure out this root/notroot thingie
[10:43] <hobbes_> and wavs
[10:43] <dooglus> nalioth: which tab in prefs?
[10:43] <sorsis> what is password to use with sudo?
[10:43] <nalioth> dooglus: downloads
[10:43] <Madeye> Hi, guys I have problem with my DVD/DRW, I can burn, but ubuntu cannot read data on CD/DVD, ubuntu recognizing all tars in DVD as plain text, while other systems can read it without a problem
[10:43] <nalioth> sorsis: your own password
[10:43] <confrey> Jowi, I did it, withou result
[10:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sorsis about sudo
[10:43] <nelsongs> anyone tried breezy on inspiron 6000?
[10:44] <dooglus> nalioth: I think you're talking about telling it how to handle different extensions, aren't you?
[10:44] <confrey> Jowi, I tried to insert the modeline from conffiguration file of debian (working fine), but without result
[10:44] <nalioth> dooglus: yes
[10:44] <dooglus> nalioth: I'm asking about how to tell it about different protocols.  it knows about http://, https:// and ftp://.  I want to tell it about magnet:?
[10:45] <nalioth> dooglus: i have no clue what magnet: is ,
[10:45] <ktogias> hi, what is the apt-get swiches to fetch only the packages from net, but do not do any install?
[10:45] <dooglus> nalioth: neither does firefox.  it's an azureus thing.
[10:45] <nalioth> ktogias: in a terminal, type "apt-get --help" or "man apt-get"
[10:45] <dooglus> nalioth: a bit like ed2k links for the edonkey network
[10:46] <hobbes_> why can i not get mplayer? synaptic has it grayed out. everything else is available, but synaptic says that mplayer is not
[10:46] <dooglus> nalioth: it allows a torrent to stay alive after the tracker dies
[10:46] <ktogias> -d, --download-only .... Thank a lot...
[10:46] <Jowi> confrey: drivers ok? sudo ddcprobe give you correct values?
[10:46] <nalioth> dooglus: i am clueless on those things
[10:47] <confrey> Jowi, I use the sis driver, likr in hoary; I don't know what is ddcprobe, I'll try
[10:49] <Jowi> confrey: look at the bottom of the ddcprobe. monitorrange is what you want
[10:50] <dooglus> nalioth: it's not really an azureus question.  it's a firefox question: how can I tell firefox which program to use when a link starts with "magnet:" instead of "http:"
[10:50] <JzE> Hey guys... How can I move cursor in fluxbox with no mouse?
[10:50] <nalioth> dooglus: edit your mime types
[10:50] <Jowi> confrey: also check that mode: 1280x800 is there
[10:51] <lotus_anima> is there an easy way to add mp3 support?
[10:51] <confrey> Jowi, no, it isn't there, and last line is edidfail
[10:51] <elad`> How do I check my internal IP address or whatever, for routing purposes?
[10:51] <dooglus> nalioth: mime types are for files, not for urls
[10:51] <Dark-Druid> elad`, try /sbin/ifconfig in a terminal window
[10:51] <Jowi> confrey: hmmm
[10:52] <nalioth> dooglus: as previously mentioned, i'm clueless
[10:52] <dooglus> heh.  thanks anyway.
[10:52] <elad`> Dark-Druid What value am I looking for?
[10:52] <dooglus> I'll keep on right-click, copy, alt-tab, control-l, paste - ing then.
[10:53] <Dark-Druid> iinet addr:
[10:53] <Dark-Druid> one i
[10:53] <Dark-Druid> sorry :)
[10:53] <shale> anyone use a dell laptop with a docking station and ubuntu?
[10:54] <dooglus> elad`: if you're using "eth0", then: ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr'
[10:54] <shale> i'm having a helluva time getting it to display on the external monitor
[10:54] <shale> soon as gnome loads the external monitor turns off and its only on the laptop display
[10:55] <ktogias> dooglus, http://www.last.fm/forum/21714/_/42837
[10:56] <dooglus> ktogias: thanks
[10:57] <ktogias> dooglus, also google for 'firefox protocol handler'
[10:57] <nalioth> ktogias: that URL should fix him up
[10:57] <dooglus> ktogias: I saw somebody mention jfgi.net here yesterday, which made me laugh
[10:57] <ktogias> :)
[10:58] <dooglus> sorry http://jfgi.us/
[10:58] <nalioth> dooglus: which is not polite to advise folks
[10:58] <kbrooks> ?
[10:59] <tellnes> hey, after fresh install of ubuntu, i dont have sound in wolf et or rhythmbox, yet i have sound in vlc sincei downloaded vlc and the plugins for it, anyone know what plugings or packages i need to get sound in rhythmbox and wolf et etc..?
[11:02] <cyphase> what's the utility that lets you store paths on the command line, so you can type <utility name> www and have it take you to your web server directory?
[11:02] <cyphase> it was featured on newsforge a while back
[11:02] <bob2> ?
[11:02] <bob2> export www=/var/www ; cd $www
[11:02] <bronson> tellnes, did you check the Multimedia Systems Selector (or whatever it's called) control panel?
[11:02] <cyphase> bob2, no
[11:03] <nalioth> cyphase: newsforge has an archive
[11:03] <cyphase> yea, i know
[11:03] <cyphase> i just thought maybe someone knew
[11:03] <scx> an english lesson:  sorry about this "of topic" question, but I just wanna know if in english is there a word to mean: "a faulting feature"  missfeature should be right ?
[11:03] <bob2> I can't imagine using another program to reimplement shell variables
[11:03] <bob2> scx: misfeature is a pretty common term, yes
[11:03] <bob2> scx: "bug" is more common, tho
[11:04] <scx> ok,.  thanks
[11:04] <cevizoglu> scx: "bug", "broken feature",
[11:04] <scx> :s
[11:04] <cevizoglu> scx: "faulty feature"
[11:04] <danl_B> software doesn't have bugs... it has randomly generated features
[11:04] <bob2> another cool thing is the "autopushd" feature in zsh
[11:04] <scx> ok,.  I got it thank you
[11:05] <bob2> after changing directories, you can run "popd" to jump back through your directory history
[11:05] <dooglus> cyphase: search for "cdpath" in the bash man page.
[11:05] <dooglus> cyphase: that will let to "cd www" from anywhere to jump to your web directory
[11:05] <ktogias> has anybody successfully installed and configured lirc remote control daemon under breezy?
[11:06] <spiral> 'bye
[11:06] <LazyAngel> should i install "ssh" or "openssh-server" to enable sshd?
[11:06] <mwe> hmm
[11:06] <bob2> LazyAngel: the latter
[11:06] <ktogias> LasseL, openssh-server i think
[11:07] <LazyAngel> thanks
[11:07] <ktogias> LazyAngel
[11:07] <LazyAngel> :)
[11:07] <therether> hi everyone ! anyone knows a frontend or HOW to clone, extend, screens to anothers monitors ? (a frontend for xinerama) ?
[11:07] <dooglus> bob2: popd only works if you have used pushd already I think
[11:08] <adjacent> when i brose to a site with certain flash stuff, flash seems to go unresponsive, then closing the tab or window in firefox causes firefox to hang. im breezy, with latest updates, firefox, and nonfree plugin. is any one else experiencing this?
[11:08] <adjacent> example site with a breeze presentation that hangs firefox. http://breeze.deis.sc.edu/p79059727/
[11:08] <Fawzib> I'm installing dovecot, what user/group should I use when creating the mailboxes? root:mail? dovecot:mail?
[11:09] <cyphase> aha!
[11:09] <cyphase> CDargs
[11:09] <shale> what in the hell is wrong with ubuntu and external monitor action?
[11:10] <El_Che> Fawzib: username:mail
[11:11] <nalioth> cyphase: looks complicated
[11:11] <nalioth> cyphase: "man alias"
[11:11] <bob2> Fawzib: they'll be created in /var/mail/ with the correct ownership when they get mail
[11:12] <Tamakizu> Hi all
[11:12] <nalioth> AlexMBas: please turn that off
[11:12] <Fawzib> ok, thanks
[11:12] <Tamakizu> I'm new to Ubuntu and i seem to have hit a mild stumbling block can anyone help
[11:14] <trans_err> im trying to get lirc to work-- I downloaded the sources, but I get a ton of errors when I try to build-- are there binaries?
[11:14] <GTroy> hmmm repos still messed up huh?
[11:14] <GTroy> guess so!
[11:14] <Tamakizu> My issue is i cant ./install off a CD i have with Tapeware on it claims permission denied
[11:14] <nalioth> grover: use "archive.bleh"
[11:15] <dooglus> trans_err: there are binaries
[11:15] <dooglus> "lirc - Linux Infra-red Remote Control support"
[11:15] <trans_err> dooglus: built against the ubuntu kernel?
[11:15] <pandemic_1233> Hello, can someone that is good with linux please help me? I just need some basic stuff setup
[11:15] <dooglus> trans_err: sure.
[11:15] <trans_err> pandemic_1233: just ask questions
[11:15] <trans_err> dooglus: care to point me in the right direction?
[11:15] <AlexMBas> nalioth, why not turning away on ?
[11:15] <Dave321> All of my screensavers that are supposed to grab the underlying screen have -root in their command string, but they all grab that stupid multi-color sample screen.  What am I doing wrong?  Why won't it capture the screen image?!
[11:16] <nalioth> pandemic_1233: just ask the channel
[11:16] <dooglus> trans_err: they're in the "universe" repository
[11:16] <pandemic_1233> Ok first, i want to mount my ntfs partition...
[11:16] <pandemic_1233> which i have tried over and over
[11:16] <trans_err> dooglus: lirc is in the repo, the modules aren't
[11:17] <Tamakizu> Hey can anyone explain why when i insert a CD and try to run the ./install program i cant with the error (permission Denied)????
[11:17] <walterbrunswick> why do I get segfaults when I do 'apt-get'?
[11:17] <dooglus> trans_err: oh, i see.
[11:17] <thenuke> Tamakizu: try sudo ./install
[11:17] <vertz> I have a problem, I just installed Ubuntu 5.04, install went smootly, but then it told me it was some updates, I clicked 'install' and after a reboot it crashes when it try to start X.. seems like the problem is with the Nvidia drivers.. Anyone know what I can do to fix it?
[11:17] <AlexMBas> nalioth, how do I disable scripts on X-Chat 2.4.4?
[11:17] <aclonedsheep> I just finished installing ubuntu...where do I get drivers for my wireless card, it has a Atheros SuperG
[11:17] <trans_err> Tamakizu: you're not root and its trying to access something you don't have access to
[11:18] <nalioth> Tamakizu: is the install marked as executable?
[11:18] <dooglus> trans_err: you saw "lirc-modules-source" in the repositories though I gues?
[11:18] <walterbrunswick> why do I get segfaults when I do 'apt-get'?
[11:18] <trans_err> dooglus: right, and it won't build
[11:18] <nalioth> AlexMBas: dont set 'away' ( i know nothing about xchat)
[11:18] <hjack> Okay
[11:18] <hjack> I dled webmin via synaptic
[11:18] <trans_err> walterbrunswick: might be a bad binary, disk problems, memory problems, etc...
[11:18] <nalioth> walterbrunswick: please dont repeat. we see you
[11:18] <hjack> Now I can't login
[11:18] <romzhv> Hi everyone!
[11:18] <hjack> and I can't find anything about a default pw
[11:18] <walterbrunswick> ok, sorry, and thank you
[11:18] <hjack> ANyone have a clue?
[11:18] <inlocoparentis_> hi all
[11:18] <walterbrunswick> what recourse do I have?
[11:18] <nalioth> walterbrunswick: if nobody knows your answer, repeating wont bring it any sooner
[11:19] <pandemic_1233> how do i add my 1280x1024 resolution? the max i have is 1024x768
[11:19] <Tamakizu> yes it is executable it is 555 permisions  and i have set a root password to try it as root
[11:19] <thenuke> pandemic_1233: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[11:19] <nalioth> walterbrunswick: wait 5 minutes between asking the same question
[11:19] <romzhv> I'm looking for help with kernel replacenemt under 5.10
[11:19] <walterbrunswick> nalioth: Ok, I apologized.
[11:19] <trans_err> Tamakizu: you can just use sudo-- don't add a root password unless you really need it
[11:19] <trans_err> romzhv: just ask the question
[11:19] <nalioth> thenuke: please dont advise ubuntuguide
[11:19] <Dave321> Anyone else have screensavers that don't grab the root window properly?  Raise your hands!
[11:19] <romzhv> By default it installs 386 kernel, I need K7
[11:19] <thenuke> nalioth: nothing wrong with that part of it ;)
[11:19] <Tamakizu> yea thx i get that now but habbit at the time insisted :)
[11:19] <trans_err> romzhv: so install it :D
[11:20] <trans_err> romzhv: use apt-get
[11:20] <hjack> I downloaded webmin via Synaptic.  I went to access it and it asked for a l/p.  What would the default l/p be?
[11:20] <thenuke> nalioth: and did not find any other ubuntu guide about mounting ntfs
[11:20] <AlexMBas> nalioth, ok, sorry
[11:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell thenuke about ntfs
[11:20] <inlocoparentis_> is there an established way to generate ubuntu cd/dvd images? i need to put the breezy universe on disk
[11:20] <trans_err> hjack: the default is usually your root pass
[11:20] <hjack> ummm
[11:20] <hjack> I don't have one do i?
[11:20] <romzhv> It says I have to re-do my boot-loader too
[11:20] <trans_err> hjack: since ubuntu doesn't have a root-- im not sure what the default would be
[11:20] <hjack> Isn't root "disabled"?
[11:20] <walterbrunswick> nalioth: Do you know the answer to my query?
[11:20] <Tamakizu> so any ideas it has me beet and i'm no linux n00b?
[11:21] <trans_err> hjack: you should run the installer from a console-- if i remember there are quite a few config questions as well
[11:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell walterbrunswick about paste
[11:21] <aclonedsheep> how do I configure my wireless network?  the wireless card isi n the device manager already
[11:21] <vertz> Why do my system crash after i installed and did and updated packages? X crashes
[11:21] <Jowi> anyone on breezy get time out on https://wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[11:21] <hjack> So, how should I go about this?  Do I need to remove anything or just download the installer and go about it
[11:21] <nalioth> walterbrunswick: paste the output of your apt-get session to a pastebin please, see ubotu's PM
[11:21] <mwe> hmm
[11:22] <walterbrunswick> There's nothing to paste; when I run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' it returns "Segmentation fault"...
[11:22] <mwe> Jowi: it works here
[11:22] <trans_err> aclonedsheep: you should be able to do it with gnome-network-preferences
[11:22] <Tamakizu> sudo: unable to execute ./install: Permission denied
[11:22] <trans_err> Tamakizu: try doing a sudo session sudo -s
[11:22] <Jowi> ok mwe. only site that stopped working after breezy upgrade from hoary.
[11:23] <trans_err> Tamakizu: then run the command
[11:23] <nalioth> Tamakizu: if the 'install" script is not marked as executable, it wont run no matter what
[11:23] <Tamakizu> ./install: ./install: cannot execute binary file
[11:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Tamakizu about cli
[11:23] <walterbrunswick> nalioth: What could be the reason for the segfault?
[11:23] <aclonedsheep> found it thanks
[11:23] <Tamakizu> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root root 20164 2002-08-06 20:14 install
[11:23] <nalioth> walterbrunswick: we'll need more info to tell you
[11:23] <Nick_Hill> !mp3
[11:23] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:23] <trans_err> Tamakizu: chmod +x install
[11:24] <Tamakizu> it's on a CD Read-Only obviously :(
[11:25] <fubar> how do I use two screens with ubuntu?? <-- newbee
[11:25] <inlocoparentis_> Does anyone know how to generate ubuntu cd/dvd images? I need to put the Breezy universe on disks.
[11:25] <DrSpin> just upgraded to Breezy -- messy update only thing that seems REALLY broken is sound...
[11:25] <dooglus> how do I make .deb files after building a package from source?
[11:25] <nalioth> Tamakizu: type "sudo -i" and then "sh install"
[11:25] <pandemic_1233> is there a way i can make my windows have back and forward buttons?
[11:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dooglus about checkinstall
[11:26] <dragonkh> hello
[11:26] <dooglus> nalioth: it's a regular ubuntu source package
[11:26] <Tamakizu> install: install: cannot execute binary file
[11:26] <nalioth> Tamakizu: or "sh ./install"
[11:26] <dragonkh> im struggling with apache and php4 - I cant get php to work in apache
[11:26] <dooglus> nalioth: vte, to be precise
[11:26] <DrSpin> how can I reset my soundcard to it's DEFAULT levels?
[11:26] <Tamakizu> same again
[11:26] <pandemic_1233> How can i add a new resolution?
[11:27] <dragonkh> I had php4 and I then apt-got php5 then found it brokoe my software - so went back to php4 - but now php doesnt work - thinks php is a downloadable file
[11:27] <nalioth> dooglus: for ubuntu sources, use "sudo apt-get build-dep pkgname" && "sudo apt-get -b source pkgname" && sudo dpkg -i whatever_builtpkg.deb"
[11:27] <dragonkh> I heard it was quite complex to get it working though - so I might need to re-install ?
[11:27] <flodine> anyone still on hoary?
[11:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pandemic_1233 about fixres
[11:27] <bob2> dooglus: autopushd pushes it onto the stack everytime you cd
[11:27] <nalioth> flodine: yes
[11:27] <bob2> dragonkh: that means you've misconfigured apache
[11:28] <Silverwizard> Hey
[11:28] <Silverwizard> Anyone having problems getting WINE for Breezy Badgar?
[11:28] <Silverwizard> and anyone got a way of fixing said problems?
[11:29] <Tamakizu> Nalioth hehe thanks for the website umm i am actaull LPIC 1 (Linux Proffesional Institute) so i know my basic command line but thx
[11:29] <dragonkh> bob2  - I have the line in that does the .php bit
[11:29] <bob2> dragonkh: is the php4 module enabled?
[11:29] <bob2> dragonkh: read /var/log/apache2/error.log
[11:30] <bob2> Silverwizard: are you using archive.ubuntu.com?
[11:30] <dooglus> nalioth: I want to modify the pacage before building it, then I want to install it.
[11:30] <Silverwizard> No
[11:30] <dragonkh> bob2 - looking
[11:30] <bob2> Silverwizard: try it then
[11:30] <dooglus> nalioth: the apt-get -b source will build it before I get a chance to modify it
[11:30] <Silverwizard> thanks, will look
[11:30] <bob2> dooglus: apt-get source blah, will just download and nupack it
[11:30] <inlocoparentis_> dooglus: apt-get source <package> works?
[11:30] <dooglus> inlocoparentis_: yes
[11:30] <nalioth> dooglus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch
[11:31] <bob2> dooglus: 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us' in the source dir will build it (to .deb files)
[11:31] <Tamakizu> i'm gonna copy from the CD guys and Gals but obviously this is a problem
[11:31] <gimmulf_> How do i cdonfigure my router so i can use my apache webserver not just local?
[11:31] <inlocoparentis_> dooglus: then do that, make your changes, afterward dpkg-buildpackage or debian/rules binary
[11:31] <thenuke> pandemic_1233: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:31] <thenuke> pandemic_1233: add your resolution to there
[11:31] <dragonkh> bob2 - thers no errors in the error log
[11:32] <dragonkh> bob2 - how to enable the module ?
[11:32] <dooglus> inlocoparentis_: I don't think I can dpkg-buildpackage, 'cos that tries to apply the ubuntu patches each time I run it
[11:32] <Tamakizu> copied from cd to hdd and works flawlessly hmm i wonder what is wrong with the CD
[11:32] <inlocoparentis_> is a debian dir in the source tree?
[11:32] <bob2> dragonkh: I'm not asking about errors, read it again
[11:32] <dooglus> inlocoparentis_: and "debian/rules binary" - does that work if it's a library I'm trying to build?
[11:32] <bob2> dooglus: yes
[11:33] <bob2> dooglus: but you really want to be using dpkg-buildpackage
[11:33] <dooglus> heh.  ok.
[11:33] <hjack> where does webmin install by default?
[11:33] <elad`> I have a router going, and I need to know what my "inside address" is so I can properly set up the port forwarding.
[11:33] <bob2> dragonkh: do you see a mention of php in there?
[11:33] <dooglus> bob2: dpkg-buildpackage does the whole thing, doesn't it?
[11:33] <Nick_Hill> elad`, sudo ipconfig
[11:33] <mcmillan_33> does anyone know how to pass a file as an attachment to thunderbird straight from the command-line? i would like to make a "Email-To" script for nautilus. or does something like this already exist?
[11:33] <nalioth> elad`: in a term, type "ifconfig"
[11:33] <Nick_Hill> elad`, sudo ifconfig
[11:33] <dragonkh> bob2 - I read the error.log  - nothing in it
[11:33] <nalioth> Nick_Hill: sudo is not necessary for ifconfig
[11:34] <bob2> dooglus: it builds the source package, yes, the same as calling the binary target of debian/rules
[11:34] <elad`> sudo: ipconfig: command not found
[11:34] <bob2> mcmillan_33: I'd be using mutt for that
[11:34] <bob2> elad`: this is not windows
[11:34] <hjack> Where would a program install to default?
[11:34] <dooglus> bob2: for instance, it runs configure without arguments.  I want to confugire with --enable-debug
[11:34] <bob2> elad`: ifconfig or "ip a"
[11:34] <nalioth> elad`: ifconfig, not ipconfig
[11:34] <bob2> dooglus: so edit debian/rules to use whatever arguments yo uwant
[11:34] <hjack> like /etc or somehwere else?
[11:34] <bob2> hjack: that question makes no sense
[11:34] <bob2> hjack: dpkg -L webmin
[11:34] <dragonkh> hmm maybe I need to run the dpkg reconfigure apache2  ?
[11:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hjack about cli
[11:35] <dooglus> bob2: also, the 2nd time I run dpkg-buildpackage it tries to apply the patches a 2nd time, sees they're already applied and removes them!
[11:35] <mcmillan_33> bob2: why's that?
[11:35] <dooglus> bob2: Trying reversed patch debian/patches/20_gdk-warning.patch at level 0...success.
[11:35] <Alinux> can't send video and receve video with gnomemeeting :(
[11:35] <bob2> dooglus: yes, then generates the source package, then applies them again
[11:35] <osfameron> yay! ubuntu deals with digital camera being plugged in shinily!
[11:35] <elad`> http://pastebin.com/399119 - Help me translate this.
[11:35] <bob2> mcmillan_33: because it's so easy to script
[11:36] <nalioth> elad`: eth0, next to 'inet' is your internal IP
[11:36] <mcmillan_33> bob2: well i guess that's one possibilty, but I'm so used to thunderbird. do you know where to find the command line option? i can't
[11:36] <Nick_Hill> nalioth, ah yes. /sbin appears in a user's path on Ubuntu, but not debian. hence ifconfig is available as a user command
[11:36] <bob2> mcmillan_33: I'd be pretty surprised if it was possible
[11:36] <elad`> 10.200.1.1?
[11:36] <dooglus> bob2: you sure about that?
[11:36] <Sionide> has anyone done a rip off of the badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers thing with breezy badger yet?!
[11:36] <dragonkh> hmm I think I might re-install ubunti might be quiker - I think i must have really screwed it
[11:36] <Sionide> if not - it's about time they did!
[11:36] <nalioth> elad`: yes that's it
[11:37] <Alinux> can't send video and receve video with gnomemeeting :(
[11:37] <elad`> Thanks.
[11:37] <LasseL> !dvd
[11:37] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[11:37] <kbrooks> who hates patents?!?
[11:37] <nalioth> Alinux: please dont repeat, if your answer isnt here, repeating wont bring it any quicker
[11:37] <bob2> dooglus: unless the source package is broken
[11:37] <nalioth> kbrooks: not in here, please
[11:37] <aclonedsheep> why when i select eclipse it says something needs to be removed for it to be installed...what?
[11:37] <Sionide> kbrooks, we do! we do! (from the stone masons in the simpsons)
[11:37] <Alinux> nalioth, sorry.
[11:37] <bob2> dragonkh: that's unlikely to help
[11:37] <kbrooks> ok :)
[11:37] <kbrooks> Sionide: ;)
[11:37] <bob2> aclonedsheep: ...you'd need to tell us the "something"
[11:37] <dooglus> bob2: so the recommended way to enable debugging in vte is to edit debian/rules?
[11:37] <aclonedsheep> it didnt say
[11:38] <Dreamglider> im trying to watch coach carter, i use mplayer, mplayer -idx file.avi but the indexing stops at 47%, anyone know how i can see the rest of the movie ?
[11:38] <nalioth> Alinux: please wait 5 minutes between the same question, or check ubuntuforums.com or wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[11:38] <aclonedsheep> "Installing this application would mean that something else needs to be removed.  Please use the "Advanced" mode to install 'eclipse-platform'
[11:38] <bob2> dooglus: no, the recommended way would be to send a patch so that it produces a libvte-dbg package, but just --enable0debug is a cheap and simple hack
[11:38] <dragonkh> bob2 - it will install it again default - which was working ok
[11:38] <Alinux> nalioth, ook
[11:39] <bob2> aclonedsheep: don't use such a useless package manager then; what does 'sudo apt-get install eclipse-platform' say?
[11:39] <Alinux> I wait 5 minutes.
[11:39] <dragonkh> bob2 - I think apache2 + php is broken now for my machine
[11:39] <Robi-> who runs a raid system?
[11:39] <danson> how do I add all the repositories in a freshly installed ubuntu, so I can apt-get install mplayer or select it in the graphical "Add app" tools at least?
[11:39] <bob2> dragonkh: ok
[11:39] <dragonkh> theres no problem with the config
[11:39] <bob2> dragonkh: reinstalling is unlikely to help
[11:39] <bob2> danson: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:39] <bob2> Robi-: do you mean "software raid"? if so, you'll need to mention that in your question.
[11:39] <aclonedsheep> unable to lock the administration directory is another process using it?
[11:39] <dragonkh> bob2 - you think its broken even if I re-install ?
[11:40] <danson> ah cool
[11:40] <danson> I 6try
[11:40] <bob2> aclonedsheep: close whatever other package management tool you have open...
[11:40] <trans_err> how do I compile something against the ubuntu kernel if it requires modversion.h ?
[11:40] <Robi-> bob2, good point, i dont remember configuring a raid bios..
[11:40] <dooglus> bob2: where should I put the "--enable-debug" argument to configure in debian/rules?
[11:40] <bob2> trans_err: what are you trying to compile?
[11:40] <Robi-> who runs a soft-raid system?
[11:41] <trans_err> bob2: lirc
[11:41] <bob2> dooglus: wherever it calls ./configure, probably in the config: target
[11:41] <aclonedsheep> ok...its downloading the couple things I selected though so I need to wait a couple minutes now
[11:41] <dooglus> bob2: it doesn't mention configure
[11:41] <bob2> trans_err: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:41] <Xyc0> Where is the linux source directory in breezy?
[11:41] <bob2> dooglus: does vte use autocrap?
[11:41] <dooglus> (well, it mentions it once, here: "DEB_CONFIGURE_LIBEXECDIR := \$${prefix}/lib/${version}")
[11:41] <bob2> Xyc0: there isn't one, what are yo utrying to do?
[11:41] <dooglus> bob2: it does, yes
[11:41] <Sionide> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=427420
[11:41] <GNULinuxGeek> Help with a problem:  Was on w eek ago and got instructions to update to
[11:41] <Xyc0> bob2: install linksys drivers
[11:41] <trans_err> bob2: i have them installed already
[11:42] <freako969> Hi
[11:42] <Nick_Hill> bob2, I understand from a debian hacker at the linux expo in London, that aptitude is a superior manager to apt-get, takes better care of dependencies, and includes deborphan functionality. 95% a drop-in command line replacement.
[11:42] <trans_err> Xyc0: /usr/src
[11:42] <freako969> this new version kicks ass
[11:42] <freako969> its brilliant well done peeps
[11:42] <bob2> Xyc0: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:42] <freako969> does any1 know how to do an apt download for java
[11:42] <bob2> freako969: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[11:42] <bob2> trans_err: then you're all set
[11:42] <Xyc0> bob2: I have not internet on that computer, im trying to install the drivers for that
[11:42] <bob2> trans_err: note that installing linux-source packages won't help you
[11:42] <Xyc0> no*
[11:42] <bob2> Xyc0: this will not be fun then
[11:43] <GNULinuxGeek> Help with a problem:  Was on w eek ago and got instructions to update to Breezy.  Now that it is done, the system will not automount my USB Flash drive nor will it let me use DVDs.  It seems to stem from fstab.  Any ideas.
[11:43] <trans_err> bob2: i still don't have a modversions.h though-- it won't compile
[11:43] <bob2> Nick_Hill: right
[11:43] <bob2> trans_err: er? dpkg -L linux-headers-$(uname -r) | grep modversio
[11:43] <bob2> Nick_Hill: the only problems are that it's missing the 'build-dep', and goes nuts sometimes and tries to remove half your system
[11:44] <Nick_Hill> bob2, That's something to look forward to ;-/
[11:44] <dolmen> seen dolbach
[11:45] <dolmen> seen dholbach
[11:45] <danson> my apt-get still doesnt work, I get GPG error: "ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:"! what can Io?
[11:45] <bob2> danson: ...
[11:45] <bob2> danson: #debian
[11:45] <dolmen> swich to another mirror
[11:46] <dcom> ok
[11:46] <dcom> if i want to get a eggdrop
[11:46] <dcom> i should get as a redhat
[11:46] <dcom> or what
[11:46] <dcom> debian?
[11:47] <dooglus> dcom: get it from synaptic
[11:47] <dooglus> dcom: it's in the universe repository
[11:47] <Robi-> can someone explain why ones has to Initialise the superblock with mdadm aftr the hoary->breezy upgrade?
[11:48] <wiredfool> what's the likely cause of segfaults all over the place after a hoary->breezy upgrade?
[11:48] <Versedtoo> j
[11:48] <dcom> May i please butter your cervix?
[11:48] <aclonedsheep> bob2:  It says some packages could not be installed.  eclipse - ecp "but it is not going to be installed & libjsch-java "but it is not installable"
[11:50] <shale> is there a way to run windows XP inside ubuntu like classic inside macosX ?
[11:50] <bob2> www.vmware.com
[11:50] <bob2> qemu.free.fr
[11:50] <duncanm> i'm running breezy and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can't find my video card
[11:51] <aclonedsheep> bob2:  any idea how I can get eclipse installed?
[11:51] <jaypeee>  i was wondering if could just do default ./configure or do i have to ./configure --prefix=/usr for xine-lib 1.1.0
[11:51] <danson> thaNKS A LOT!!
[11:52] <bob2> aclonedsheep: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[11:52] <Dark-Druid> shale, you could try vmware
[11:52] <afd_> hi! I'm wondering, I have the following application listed as installed in my "Add Applications": New Login in a Neste Window
[11:52] <Dark-Druid> but its not free
[11:52] <afd_> how do I access this? What's the command?
[11:52] <kbrooks> Dark-Druid: vmware is nonfree
[11:52] <kbrooks> qemu is OK
[11:52] <bob2> afd_: right click on it and see
[11:53] <afd_> bob2, it's not in the menu, it's in the "Add applications" thingy gnome installed
[11:53] <afd_> bob2, it's not in the menu, it's in the "Add applications" thingy gnome installer
[11:53] <danson> arg, but in mplayer the movie is verry small.. :(
[11:53] <shale> Dark-Druid, not free? that sux
[11:53] <SEJeff> afd_: Applications --> System Tools --> New login in a nested window
[11:53] <shale> i only use warezed versions of Windows
[11:53] <El_Che> afd_: right click and choose propperties
[11:53] <woddf2> Haldo
[11:53] <SEJeff> afd_: You don't try very hard
[11:53] <danson> I mean un-normal smaller that it should be
[11:53] <danson> even on fullscreen
[11:54] <afd_> SEJeff, :) hey, it's 1 am for me, thanks man
[11:54] <woddf2> On 1 of my b0xes, the partitioner freezes every time I try to load it!
[11:54] <myavuzselim> hello, I have problems installing breezy on Acer Aspire 2010
[11:54] <Dark-Druid> shale, you could look into wine for running individual windows programs in a window
[11:54] <danson> but in mplayer the movie is verry small.. :( what can I do to make it "normal"?
[11:55] <Dreamglider> danson, try pressing f !
[11:55] <wiredfool> is there a reason that many things (e.g. nautilus, firefox, panel, svn) are segfaulting on a horay to breezy upgrade?
[11:55] <woddf2> Apparently no one is paying attention.
[11:55] <aclonedsheep> bob2: Sorry to ask such a noob question but how do I open /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:55] <myavuzselim> there is no problem i the first phase, but then, when it restart for installing the packages, it freezes with: preparing for installation... 0%
[11:55] <danson> no, it stays small even in fullscreen!
[11:55] <aclonedsheep> just typing it in says permission denied
[11:55] <woddf2> aclonedsheep: Try sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:55] <Dark-Druid> danson, try playing with the -vo option of mplayer
[11:55] <Dreamglider> aclonedsheep,  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:56] <Dark-Druid> try mplayer -vo xv file
[11:56] <Dark-Druid> or mplayer -vo x11 file
[11:56] <woddf2> May I have you attention please?
[11:56] <chris86wm> hey guys
[11:57] <gyaresu> aclonedsheep, gedit is a graphical text editor. vim is a command line one. both are good for different uses. try typing vimtutor at the command line for an interactive tutorial.
[11:57] <danson> but ahh
[11:57] <chris86wm> would anyone mind helping me install breezy on my laptop, i have hit a bit of a wall
[11:57] <morpheo26n> hola
[11:57] <duncanm> other than dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, is there another thing for configuring X?
[11:57] <woddf2> May I have you attention please?
[11:57] <wiredfool> duncanm: emacs,
[11:57] <aclonedsheep> thanks
[11:57] <gyaresu> duncanm, other peoples examples from the internet who have the same card as you.
[11:57] <wiredfool> I believe it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:58] <woddf2> May I have you attention please?
[11:58] <evilroot> Anybody have experience using MOL to get the Airport Extreme on an iBook working?
[11:58] <gyaresu> duncanm, someone might even lend you theirs from here.
[11:58] <morpheo26n> holaa
[11:58] <danson> thanks again!!
[11:58] <duncanm> gyaresu: i have a pretty rare card, i think
[11:58] <Dark-Druid> danson, the other solution would be to edit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf and change the zoom option to yes
[11:58] <trans_err> I still can't get lirc to build, anyone have any ideas? It breaks during make. I have the headers/source/etc... installed
[11:58] <morpheo26n> alguien een espaol
[11:58] <duncanm> gyaresu: and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't see it
[11:58] <dragonkh> grr - everything looks fine to me - theres no errors anywhere and yet stupid apache doesnt recognise php files
[11:59] <chris86wm> when i go to install breezy, the screen keeps scrolling so i cant read the install options. any ideas?
[11:59] <duncanm> can i have both nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx installed together?
[11:59] <gyaresu> duncanm, try search for xfree86 ^card_name^ on the web...
[11:59] <wiredfool> bugger, now / is a read only file system
[11:59] <woddf2> May I have you attention please?
[11:59] <WiFiTux> how can I startx in a different tty? like ctrl+alt+f8?
[11:59] <Jowi> installed ubuntu-base, ubuntu-desktop without improvement.
[11:59] <chris86wm> anyone?
[11:59] <wiredfool> I think I'm screwed.
[11:59] <aclonedsheep> ok I pasted it in flood
[11:59] <woddf2> No one is answering my "question".