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| StormyEyes | Hello. Should I be talking here if I'm just working on the Wiki? | 04:19 |
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| Burgundavia | StormyEyes, what are you planning to do? | 04:23 |
| StormyEyes | I added this page -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession -- and was looking for feedback. | 04:23 |
| Burgundavia | StormyEyes, if want to edit every page on the entire wiki, then better talk about it first | 04:23 |
| StormyEyes | Every page? Nah; my wife would kill me for paying more attention to the wiki than to her. | 04:24 |
| Burgundavia | StormyEyes, basically, look carefully for an existing page before you start a new one | 04:26 |
| StormyEyes | OK, I did that. I didn't see anything in there for custom X sessions. | 04:26 |
| Burgundavia | cool | 04:27 |
| Burgundavia | thanks for the effort | 04:27 |
| StormyEyes | No problem. | 04:27 |
| StormyEyes | I don't see anything in there for Openbox or other minimal environments; perhaps I should clean up my Openbox howto from the forum and post it on the Wiki. | 04:27 |
| Burgundavia | that would be cool | 04:28 |
| StormyEyes | Burgundavia, should I join the documentation mailing list if I'm just hacking on the Wiki? | 04:33 |
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| jsgotangco | http://trigger.cdo.linux.org.ph/2005/10/19/howto-upgrade-from-hoary-to-breezy-from-an-iso/ | 04:41 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, why not simply load the cd in an chose "add a cd" from synaptic? | 04:55 |
| jsgotangco | well its fun to do something crazy once in a while | 05:04 |
| ajmitch | yep | 05:07 |
| ajmitch | like fly to canada | 05:07 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 05:13 |
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| zenrox | who has a web link to the first page of the doucmation for breezy (trying to add it to my bookmarkfile for ff | 06:08 |
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| jsgotangco | Safe and text-oriented boot mode for better clarity and | 08:51 |
| jsgotangco | infinite justice on boot. | 08:51 |
| jsgotangco | inifinte justice? | 08:51 |
| Madpilot | huh? | 08:51 |
| highvoltage | yeah, what is infinite justice in the context of new server setups? | 08:55 |
| highvoltage | does it mean it will crush microsoft like the worthless worms they are? | 08:55 |
| mdke | morning | 08:57 |
| highvoltage | morning, mdke | 08:57 |
| mdke | heya highvoltage | 08:58 |
| mdke | i saw a picture of you on flikr with Jane and realised finally who you are :) | 08:58 |
| mdke | we met briefly at the edubuntu summit | 08:59 |
| jsgotangco | hi mdke | 09:01 |
| highvoltage | yes :) | 09:01 |
| highvoltage | good memory, there ;) | 09:02 |
| mdke | heya jsgotangco | 09:03 |
| mdke | highvoltage, :) I have your goopensource stickers on my laptop | 09:03 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, did you hear about our new server? | 09:04 |
| jsgotangco | help.ubuntu.com? | 09:04 |
| mdke | i mean, the machine | 09:04 |
| jsgotangco | no | 09:04 |
| jsgotangco | we get our own physical server? | 09:05 |
| mdke | yeah | 09:05 |
| mdke | i convinced henrik that the linode was too crap | 09:05 |
| mdke | so he offered a pronto server | 09:05 |
| mdke | :) | 09:05 |
| mdke | we're setting it up at the moment | 09:05 |
| jsgotangco | nice | 09:05 |
| jsgotangco | can you give me access if possible? | 09:05 |
| mdke | sure | 09:06 |
| mdke | once it is set up I'll give you a login | 09:06 |
| jsgotangco | thanks | 09:07 |
| jsgotangco | so we'll move everything there? | 09:07 |
| jsgotangco | except the svn | 09:07 |
| mdke | well there isn't a lot | 09:07 |
| mdke | only the webserver | 09:07 |
| mdke | gtg to work | 09:09 |
| mdke | see ya later | 09:09 |
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| highvoltage | mdke: cool :) | 09:17 |
| Burgundavia | bloody hell | 09:32 |
| Burgundavia | sean just converted the quicktour to docbook | 09:32 |
| jsgotangco | nice | 09:32 |
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| Burgundavia | he likely broke the css however | 09:32 |
| jsgotangco | he removed the html? | 09:32 |
| Burgundavia | nope, he just converted in parallel | 09:33 |
| Madpilot | somebody remind me what the CLI command is to start Yelp w/ a specific document? | 09:34 |
| Burgundavia | yelp blah.xml | 09:34 |
| Madpilot | thnx | 09:35 |
| Burgundavia | well, I need to sleep | 09:36 |
| Madpilot | the docbook quicktour won't load for me at all - Yelp throws up a bunch of errors, then just loads the default help page... | 09:36 |
| Burgundavia | lovely | 09:36 |
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| jsgotangco | sure | 09:36 |
| Madpilot | (yelp:28423): Yelp-CRITICAL **: history_pop_back: assertion `window->priv->history_back != NULL' failed | 09:36 |
| Madpilot | whatever that means in English... | 09:36 |
| Burgundavia | well, I pinged Sean and the list about it | 09:37 |
| Burgundavia | I will leave it for now | 09:37 |
| jsgotangco | reading... | 09:41 |
| jsgotangco | what the heck are those files he added | 09:44 |
| Burgundavia | no idea | 09:44 |
| Burgundavia | should we remove sean from the commit list? | 09:44 |
| highvoltage | Burgundavia: what have sean done? | 09:47 |
| Burgundavia | highvoltage, non-communication is my biggest worry | 09:47 |
| jsgotangco | i don't mind if he's still in commit as long as he does things in a nice way | 09:47 |
| jsgotangco | its obvious he's doing the "see i told you so" thing... | 09:48 |
| Burgundavia | I see big changes to our xsl, which I assume means how things look | 09:48 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: XSL = CSS for XML, AFAIK | 09:48 |
| Burgundavia | highvoltage, I assume you have/do speak with him personally? | 09:48 |
| highvoltage | Burgundavia: i have spoken to him once when I were in Jo'burg for Linuxworld. He hasn't called / msg'd me recently, I think he's angry at me. | 09:50 |
| Burgundavia | highvoltage, he has not spoken on the doc list for quite some time | 09:51 |
| Burgundavia | highvoltage, nor has he appeared here | 09:51 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, we can ask the CC for that i guess | 09:51 |
| jsgotangco | and clean up the commit list as well | 09:51 |
| Burgundavia | ya | 09:51 |
| Burgundavia | well, I really need to sleep | 09:52 |
| Burgundavia | we can talk more tomorrow about it | 09:52 |
| jsgotangco | sure | 09:52 |
| jsgotangco | i'll email the list about the meeting tommorow | 09:52 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage, angry at you? | 09:53 |
| Madpilot | jsgotangco: another 1400Z meeting, right? | 09:53 |
| jsgotangco | Madpilot, yeah, let's discuss changing that too | 09:53 |
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| jsgotangco | hi rob^ | 09:53 |
| highvoltage | well, i think he can be real moody | 09:54 |
| jsgotangco | that's bad | 09:54 |
| rob^ | hi jsgotangco | 09:54 |
| rob^ | but it comes in your choice of flavours | 09:54 |
| rob^ | (thats good) | 09:55 |
| rob^ | gotta love the simpsons | 09:55 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 09:55 |
| highvoltage | simpsons++ | 09:55 |
| rob^ | mmm dinner | 09:56 |
| mdke | jeez froud is a pain in the ass | 10:08 |
| mdke | i can't help but feel this latest attempt to get kubuntu docs in a different repository is an attempt to control them | 10:08 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 10:09 |
| jsgotangco | of course | 10:09 |
| mdke | i agree he should be removed from the commit list unless he provides a satisfactory explanation about whether he is going to play ball | 10:09 |
| jsgotangco | i'd kick him off the commit list as well | 10:09 |
| mdke | yep | 10:14 |
| mdke | we'll see how it goes, and if necessary approach the CC | 10:14 |
| mdke | but I think this can be resolved within the group | 10:14 |
| mdke | agenda item? | 10:15 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm no i don't like that | 10:20 |
| jsgotangco | ground rules on committing i guess | 10:20 |
| mdke | it will be rare that someone needs to be removed from the list | 10:21 |
| mdke | but it will happen I suppose | 10:21 |
| jsgotangco | i don't like it, but if he's being a git, its justified | 10:21 |
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| mdke | ok i gotta do some work | 10:22 |
| rob^ | I wonder if that will just make it worse, he would still have read-only access to it | 10:23 |
| jsgotangco | he can fork if he wants to | 10:24 |
| mdke | quite. So long as he doesn't release things into the ditribution | 10:27 |
| jsgotangco | ahh its a different story :) | 10:27 |
| jsgotangco | his beef is with kubuntu so we'll just make sure we have good content (promised jjesse will write kubuntu for dapper) | 10:28 |
| rob^ | mdke, I have an idea for the revhistory in the faq guide on help.u.c | 10:30 |
| rob^ | what if we just used css to shrink the text right down, thus taking up less screen space? | 10:31 |
| jsgotangco | rob^, nice idea | 10:31 |
| rob^ | the change to the css file is one line | 10:31 |
| mdke | sure go ahead | 10:33 |
| rob^ | there, I'm pretty sure that will work | 10:39 |
| rob^ | (its in branch) | 10:39 |
| mdke | cool | 10:40 |
| jsgotangco | question | 10:41 |
| jsgotangco | do we start merging | 10:41 |
| mdke | asap | 10:43 |
| rob^ | whats the easiest way to do it? | 10:43 |
| jsgotangco | well not that easy really... | 10:44 |
| jsgotangco | i can start merging some later... | 10:44 |
| jsgotangco | and have the old hoary docs branched | 10:44 |
| mdke | best recruit jbailey for help | 10:45 |
| rob^ | oh, umm the licences are not in the faq guide either, xincludes | 10:45 |
| mdke | you just noticed now? :) | 10:45 |
| rob^ | no the other day | 10:45 |
| rob^ | :) | 10:45 |
| rob^ | I'm not that slow :P | 10:45 |
| mdke | dunno if fixing that will break the translations | 10:47 |
| rob^ | yeah.. | 10:48 |
| jsgotangco | it'll be interesting tommorow :) | 10:49 |
| jsgotangco | i should email the list | 10:49 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 10:49 |
| rob^ | wiki still down? | 10:49 |
| rob^ | oh btw how long do you think the meeting will go tomorrow? | 10:51 |
| rob^ | it starts at midnight my time, and I now have to work at 6am.. | 10:52 |
| rob^ | could be painful | 10:52 |
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| mdke | rob^, don't think that css thing has worked, better test it | 12:04 |
| rob^ | dang | 12:37 |
| rob^ | I hadn't tested it | 12:37 |
| rob^ | I just noticed that the revhistory is wrapped in a div with the revhistory class | 12:38 |
| rob^ | might have to add a class for the <p> tags | 12:38 |
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| apokryphos | guys, what has happened to the doc.ubuntu.com site then? The broken links were just removed altogether? :/ | 02:53 |
| apokryphos | a lot of documentation isn't accessible from there; that shouldn't be the case, should it? | 02:53 |
| jjesse | no it shouldn't i thought mdke was working on solving it? | 02:57 |
| jjesse | he sent an email to the doc list let me look | 02:57 |
| jjesse | problem w/ the index.html got changed according to him | 02:58 |
| apokryphos | I know.. why weren't the URLs then just altered? :/ | 02:59 |
| jjesse | no clue | 03:06 |
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| mdke | because that site is for previews | 03:35 |
| mdke | not docs | 03:35 |
| mdke | and currently we have no previews because we have just released our docs | 03:35 |
| mdke | and work has not yet started on trunk | 03:35 |
| mdke | (for dapper) | 03:35 |
| mdke | jjesse, apokryphos ^^ | 03:37 |
| jjesse | yes mde | 03:37 |
| mdke | it says that on the page actually | 03:37 |
| mdke | jjesse, we need to add the kubuntu docs to help.ubuntu.com, are they buildable in html? | 03:38 |
| jjesse | mdke: to be hinest how would i know? | 03:38 |
| mdke | jjesse, i was asking just in case you knew, np I'll try myself | 03:39 |
| mdke | the answer is that they don't | 03:39 |
| mdke | do "make kall" in branches/breezy/kde | 03:39 |
| mdke | warning: failed to load external entity "/usr/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/kde-chunk.xsl" | 03:43 |
| mdke | cannot parse /usr/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/kde-chunk.xsl | 03:43 |
| mdke | make: *** [kspec] Error 4 | 03:43 |
| mdke | maybe I need to install some stuff | 03:45 |
| jjesse | that's not what i get | 03:45 |
| mdke | jjesse, it works? | 03:45 |
| jjesse | no see http://pastebin.com/399791 | 03:46 |
| mdke | hmm | 03:46 |
| mdke | wonder what I'm missing | 03:46 |
| mdke | anyhow, will you see if you can sort it out? | 03:46 |
| jjesse | sure will | 03:48 |
| mdke | great | 03:48 |
| mdke | jjesse, meanwhile can you post me the result of dpkg -S ksgmltools2 ? | 03:51 |
| jjesse | mdke: sure can on phone right now | 03:52 |
| mdke | thanks | 03:52 |
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| jjesse | mdke: it's a huge list, http://pastebin.com/399799 | 03:58 |
| jjesse | i think i got it all, but probablly not :( | 03:58 |
| mdke | ah damn my bad | 03:59 |
| mdke | anyhow, I got what I wanted :) | 04:00 |
| mdke | kdelibs-data is needed to build the docs | 04:00 |
| mdke | although I'm not sure why | 04:00 |
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| jjesse | mdke: i will look into the issues w/ the docbook formating i'm getting | 04:04 |
| jjesse | mdke: but right shouldn't the only ones we need in html are the ones released, the kreleasenotes and about-kubuntu? | 04:04 |
| mdke | yes i agree | 04:04 |
| mdke | isn't the kquickguide done? | 04:04 |
| jjesse | mdke: yes sorry | 04:05 |
| mdke | yeah, it would be great to get those three up | 04:05 |
| jjesse | mdke: no kquickguide actually i think there are changes that still need to be made | 04:05 |
| jjesse | mdke: riddell and i finished the about kubuntu and kubuntu release notes | 04:06 |
| mdke | okay | 04:06 |
| mdke | well those two would be a great start | 04:06 |
| jjesse | pardon the stupidity but what needs to be done to make sure they work in html? | 04:06 |
| mdke | jjesse, you need to resolve the errors building I guess. In that case, looks like the entities point to a wrong address | 04:08 |
| jjesse | mdke: ok added to task list | 04:08 |
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| judax | jjesse: ping | 05:04 |
| jjesse | judax: ponf | 05:04 |
| jjesse | judax: pong | 05:04 |
| judax | jjesse: what time is the doc mtg tomorrow? 1400UTC? | 05:09 |
| jjesse | judax: that is what i have marked down in my calendar | 05:09 |
| jjesse | i haven't heard elsewise | 05:09 |
| judax | jjesse: it is in my calendar and just want to make sure it is right | 05:09 |
| judax | what timezone are you in? | 05:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | judax: 1400 is what im planing for, so i hope its right :| | 05:10 |
| jjesse | i am in eastern | 05:10 |
| judax | Kamping_Kaiser: ok | 05:10 |
| judax | jjesse: so, it is 10am your time tomorrow | 05:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | 11.30pm for me :( oh well. i should be sleeping now i suppose, so im not useless tonight | 05:12 |
| jjesse | correct judax | 05:12 |
| judax | Kamping_Kaiser: sleep? what is that? | 05:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | judax: what you do to clear your caches and load a new kernel :) | 05:12 |
| judax | jjesse: ok, I think I have it all right in calendar, thanks much | 05:12 |
| judax | hehe | 05:12 |
| jjesse | judax: are you in eastern time zone ? | 05:13 |
| judax | jjesse: central | 05:13 |
| jjesse | judax: ah so 9am for you then :) | 05:13 |
| judax | jjesse: yup | 05:13 |
| apokryphos | mdke: ok, so will help.ubuntu.com be the centralised location for the docs? | 05:29 |
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| mdke | apokryphos, that is correct | 06:29 |
| Kinnison | ciao | 07:28 |
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| froud | Hello I have a rough work in progress example of two col format for pdf. Its just a sketch but would like feedback. Sample is here | 08:31 |
| froud | http://www.inwords.co.za/temp/new.pdf | 08:31 |
| froud | Still lots of format problems | 08:32 |
| froud | and perhaps could use some col spans | 08:32 |
| froud | to break the monotony | 08:32 |
| froud | things like TOC can be hidden | 08:33 |
| jjesse | froud: that pdf looks cool good job | 08:46 |
| froud | jjesse: thanks, do you think the background color etc is a bit off? | 08:47 |
| froud | I see the images have transparency in the back so the black above and below | 08:47 |
| jjesse | background color is a little dark i think | 08:47 |
| froud | I will need to make new images | 08:47 |
| froud | dark :-) here is me thinking too light | 08:48 |
| jjesse | wo | 08:48 |
| froud | Ok will add more white | 08:48 |
| froud | Obviously I need to put <?colbreak?> in the right places | 08:49 |
| froud | What about the std fonts | 08:49 |
| froud | I was hoping change to Verdana | 08:49 |
| froud | And make headings a twee bit smaller? | 08:50 |
| jjesse | hmm thinking | 08:57 |
| jjesse | the headings could me a tad bit smaller | 08:58 |
| froud | and body text at Verdana 10 | 08:59 |
| froud | perhaps another font altogether? | 08:59 |
| jjesse | work calls heading into a meeting | 09:01 |
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