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| kemik | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3358 <- should i post a bug ? | 12:20 |
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| kemik | that stuff keep happening | 12:21 |
| kemik | and i dunno what todo | 12:21 |
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| carsten | Moin moin | 10:18 |
| carsten | dholbach told me to get in touch with you ;-) | 10:19 |
| carsten | This is still reproducible for me, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15413 | 10:19 |
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| jdub | yoink! | 03:46 |
| jdub | 23:45 < jdub> BenC: my machine has hard locked 3 times today | 03:47 |
| jdub | 23:45 < jdub> BenC: now that i'm not running firefox, it hasn't happened | 03:47 |
| jdub | 23:45 < jdub> but | 03:47 |
| jdub | 23:45 < jdub> i like the web | 03:47 |
| jdub | 23:45 < jdub> it's not the hard disk thing either | 03:47 |
| jdub | 23:45 < jdub> heard of anything like this on breezy? | 03:47 |
| jdub | 03:47 | |
| jdub | for context | 03:47 |
| BenC | guessing it's network related | 03:47 |
| BenC | what are you using for network? | 03:47 |
| jdub | ipw2200 | 03:48 |
| jdub | hmm | 03:48 |
| jdub | that sounds fairly likely, given the usage patterns it was happening in | 03:48 |
| jdub | though i have fetchmail and ssh running atm without problems | 03:49 |
| jdub | so firefox was making new connections and stuff, and then it locked | 03:49 |
| BenC | firefox seems to expose more network bugs than most programs | 03:50 |
| BenC | this is with latest breezy kernel (9.23)? | 03:51 |
| jdub | yep | 03:51 |
| jdub | linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 2.6.12-9.23 | 03:51 |
| infinity | jdub : Other hardware specifics? | 03:51 |
| jdub | um | 03:52 |
| jdub | dell x300 | 03:52 |
| infinity | I'm using ipw2200 on a centrino laptop here as well, and except for the occasional firmware timeout, driver goes nuts issues, nothing bad. | 03:52 |
| jdub | only using ipw2200 wifi atm | 03:52 |
| infinity | firefox has also been known to tickle odd X (or X driver) bugs. | 03:52 |
| jdub | running all latest breezy stuff | 03:52 |
| jdub | infinity: it could be X | 03:52 |
| BenC | that's true too | 03:52 |
| jdub | intel i855 video | 03:52 |
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| BenC | infinity: what video is yours? | 03:54 |
| infinity | Mine's radeon. | 03:57 |
| jdub | it's only been happening really badly today | 03:57 |
| jdub | which is od | 03:57 |
| infinity | i815 and ipw2200 is a dead common combination though, so that leaves us at square one for a scapegoat, since I'd expect "I lock up 3 times a day" to be a pretty commonly reported bug, if it's common to that setup. | 03:57 |
| jdub | because my usage patter while travelling has not changed much from last week to today | 03:58 |
| infinity | jdub : Checked the usual suspects, like filesystem corruption, dying RAM, etc? | 03:58 |
| jdub | did a fsck last night | 03:58 |
| jdub | for stupid reasons | 03:58 |
| jdub | going to do memcheck tonight | 03:58 |
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| infinity | Maybe the fsck broke something. ;) | 03:58 |
| jdub | heh | 03:59 |
| jdub | beagle + user_xattr made a big mess | 03:59 |
| infinity | Heat could also be a factor. If you're computing on your lap, not getting enough airflow, firefox is hard on a CPU... | 03:59 |
| jdub | quite scary | 03:59 |
| jdub | could be | 03:59 |
| infinity | Despite the moniker "laptop", I've noticed that most laptops are very unhappy in laps. | 04:00 |
| infinity | At least, for extended usage. | 04:00 |
| BenC | jdub: when it happens it is dead-dead, or can you still ping it? | 04:01 |
| jdub | hrm | 04:02 |
| jdub | i will have to check | 04:02 |
| jdub | not a very good debugging environment here ;) | 04:02 |
| jdub | sorry, that would have been a sensible thing to do | 04:02 |
| BenC | no problem | 04:03 |
| infinity | dead-dead still doesn't tell us much. kernel panics, X locking the hardware, or heat would all cause dead-dead. | 04:03 |
| infinity | OTOH, if it's NOT dead-dead, you probably don't want ubuntu-kernel. :) | 04:04 |
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| BenC | not being dead-dead means the kernel is still able to give us information :) | 04:15 |
| BenC | jdub: Check #17128, see if it's related to you | 04:26 |
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| jdub | oh | 04:27 |
| jdub | that "screen stays blank" thing happened to me too | 04:27 |
| BenC | yay, 2.6.14 tree is _almost compiling_ | 04:40 |
| BenC | week of shoving crap into without testing if it compiles can put a hurt on a tree :) | 04:41 |
| mkrufky | BenC: what fails? | 04:41 |
| BenC | it's little things | 04:41 |
| mkrufky | ah, ok | 04:41 |
| BenC | right now the at76c50x driver just doesn't seem to like 2.6.14 | 04:42 |
| mkrufky | Linus released -rc5 this morning, if u didnt see yet | 04:42 |
| BenC | I'll just do a pull later | 04:42 |
| mkrufky | k | 04:42 |
| BenC | my tree is probably close to rc5 anyway | 04:42 |
| johnm | BenC: you guys planning on adopting pcmciautils anytime soon? | 04:42 |
| mkrufky | it fixes those nasty maximum file limit reached errors and the like | 04:43 |
| BenC | johnm: dunno, probably need to ask whoever handles pcmcia in userspace | 04:43 |
| johnm | BenC: will do :) | 04:44 |
| infinity | I'd package pcmciautils, but I have no pcmcia cards to test it with currently. | 04:45 |
| infinity | Someone should probably put it on my TODO anyway, as I understand it's the Right Way to make pcmcia and udev happy with each other. | 04:46 |
| johnm | yeah it totally is | 04:55 |
| johnm | and recent versions have added udev support, so doesn't rely on hotplug | 04:55 |
| infinity | Well, if we have the time, I think we'd like to move to a completely udev-based, hotplug-free system (assuming that actually WORKS), so this may well be a part of that. | 05:05 |
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| BenC | fabbione: ping | 11:57 |
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