[12:20] <kemik> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3358  <- should i post a bug  ? 
[12:21] <kemik> that stuff keep happening
[12:21] <kemik> and i dunno what todo
[10:18] <carsten> Moin moin
[10:19] <carsten> dholbach told me to get in touch with you ;-)
[10:19] <carsten> This is still reproducible for me, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15413
[03:46] <jdub> yoink!
[03:47] <jdub> 23:45 < jdub> BenC: my machine has hard locked 3 times today
[03:47] <jdub> 23:45 < jdub> BenC: now that i'm not running firefox, it hasn't happened
[03:47] <jdub> 23:45 < jdub> but
[03:47] <jdub> 23:45 < jdub> i like the web
[03:47] <jdub> 23:45 < jdub> it's not the hard disk thing either
[03:47] <jdub> 23:45 < jdub> heard of anything like this on breezy?
[03:47] <jdub> 
[03:47] <jdub> for context
[03:47] <BenC> guessing it's network related
[03:47] <BenC> what are you using for network?
[03:48] <jdub> ipw2200
[03:48] <jdub> hmm
[03:48] <jdub> that sounds fairly likely, given the usage patterns it was happening in
[03:49] <jdub> though i have fetchmail and ssh running atm without problems
[03:49] <jdub> so firefox was making new connections and stuff, and then it locked
[03:50] <BenC> firefox seems to expose more network bugs than most programs
[03:51] <BenC> this is with latest breezy kernel (9.23)?
[03:51] <jdub> yep
[03:51] <jdub> linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 2.6.12-9.23
[03:51] <infinity> jdub : Other hardware specifics?
[03:52] <jdub> um
[03:52] <jdub> dell x300
[03:52] <infinity> I'm using ipw2200 on a centrino laptop here as well, and except for the occasional firmware timeout, driver goes nuts issues, nothing bad.
[03:52] <jdub> only using ipw2200 wifi atm
[03:52] <infinity> firefox has also been known to tickle odd X (or X driver) bugs.
[03:52] <jdub> running all latest breezy stuff
[03:52] <jdub> infinity: it could be X
[03:52] <BenC> that's true too
[03:52] <jdub> intel i855 video
[03:54] <BenC> infinity: what video is yours?
[03:57] <infinity> Mine's radeon.
[03:57] <jdub> it's only been happening really badly today
[03:57] <jdub> which is od
[03:57] <infinity> i815 and ipw2200 is a dead common combination though, so that leaves us at square one for a scapegoat, since I'd expect "I lock up 3 times a day" to be a pretty commonly reported bug, if it's common to that setup.
[03:58] <jdub> because my usage patter while travelling has not changed much from last week to today
[03:58] <infinity> jdub : Checked the usual suspects, like filesystem corruption, dying RAM, etc?
[03:58] <jdub> did a fsck last night
[03:58] <jdub> for stupid reasons
[03:58] <jdub> going to do memcheck tonight
[03:58] <infinity> Maybe the fsck broke something. ;)
[03:59] <jdub> heh
[03:59] <jdub> beagle + user_xattr made a big mess
[03:59] <infinity> Heat could also be a factor.  If you're computing on your lap, not getting enough airflow, firefox is hard on a CPU...
[03:59] <jdub> quite scary
[03:59] <jdub> could be
[04:00] <infinity> Despite the moniker "laptop", I've noticed that most laptops are very unhappy in laps.
[04:00] <infinity> At least, for extended usage.
[04:01] <BenC> jdub: when it happens it is dead-dead, or can you still ping it?
[04:02] <jdub> hrm
[04:02] <jdub> i will have to check
[04:02] <jdub> not a very good debugging environment here ;)
[04:02] <jdub> sorry, that would have been a sensible thing to do
[04:03] <BenC> no problem
[04:03] <infinity> dead-dead still doesn't tell us much.  kernel panics, X locking the hardware, or heat would all cause dead-dead.
[04:04] <infinity> OTOH, if it's NOT dead-dead, you probably don't want ubuntu-kernel. :)
[04:15] <BenC> not being dead-dead means the kernel is still able to give us information :)
[04:26] <BenC> jdub: Check #17128, see if it's related to you
[04:27] <jdub> oh
[04:27] <jdub> that "screen stays blank" thing happened to me too
[04:40] <BenC> yay, 2.6.14 tree is _almost compiling_
[04:41] <BenC> week of shoving crap into without testing if it compiles can put a hurt on a tree :)
[04:41] <mkrufky> BenC: what fails?
[04:41] <BenC> it's little things
[04:41] <mkrufky> ah, ok
[04:42] <BenC> right now the at76c50x driver just doesn't seem to like 2.6.14
[04:42] <mkrufky> Linus released -rc5 this morning, if u didnt see yet
[04:42] <BenC> I'll just do a pull later
[04:42] <mkrufky> k
[04:42] <BenC> my tree is probably close to rc5 anyway
[04:42] <johnm> BenC: you guys planning on adopting pcmciautils anytime soon?
[04:43] <mkrufky> it fixes those nasty maximum file limit reached errors and the like
[04:43] <BenC> johnm: dunno, probably need to ask whoever handles pcmcia in userspace
[04:44] <johnm> BenC: will do :)
[04:45] <infinity> I'd package pcmciautils, but I have no pcmcia cards to test it with currently.
[04:46] <infinity> Someone should probably put it on my TODO anyway, as I understand it's the Right Way to make pcmcia and udev happy with each other.
[04:55] <johnm> yeah it totally is
[04:55] <johnm> and recent versions have added udev support, so doesn't rely on hotplug
[05:05] <infinity> Well, if we have the time, I think we'd like to move to a completely udev-based, hotplug-free system (assuming that actually WORKS), so this may well be a part of that.
[11:57] <BenC> fabbione: ping