[12:02] ogra: well, I hope to attend the Edubuntu BOFs. There is actually a very big demand for it here in .IL, would be nice for them to have someone close to the project leader ;) === koke [n=koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:03] tseng: Brandon! [12:06] rs [12:06] re even === alexr [n=alexr@alex.neuro.umn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:18] Hi! Can anybody help me with the question about modifying breezy install CD? [12:20] ok I'm here [12:20] I tried adding some packages and remastering CD. [12:20] Lathiat: RE: .desktop, send upstream according to seb [12:21] Lathiat: that way neither Debian nor we have to worry about it [12:21] crimsun: ok [12:21] hrm [12:21] TiMiDo: Sorry, were you talking to me? [12:21] so debian dont want them? [12:21] not really [12:21] what about cases of unmaintained software etc? [12:21] OK :-) [12:21] i made chat with seb === tritium [n=michael@12.104.131.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:22] Lathiat: our first choice should be upstream for sending .desktop [12:22] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/HowToPatch <-- draft, feel free to edit [12:22] Heya tritium [12:22] Lathiat: if that fails, then yeah, Debian. [12:22] hello [12:22] hi [12:22] Heya crimsun [12:22] 'lo === Lathiat now creates a draft HowTomerge [12:22] hm good one === tseng merges by a patented hack and slash technique [12:23] tseng: more of a [12:23] what to do when merging [12:23] watch foro deprecated patches [12:23] try drop the need to merege all together [12:23] fix up the broken dpatch integrations [12:23] send patches to debian and/or upstream [12:23] i memorize all my changes [12:23] and manually reapply them on top of the latest debian revision [12:24] sounds crazy, I know [12:24] eh [12:24] heh [12:24] sounds like the kind of thing i do [12:24] i have a habit of retyping things [12:24] when i could just copy and paste them or something and change a few things [12:27] ok, finally at work [12:27] only 11:30am ;) === ajmitch thought of a nice big addition to revu2 while he was on his way to work [12:27] ajmitch: heh === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] Lathiat: basically automated checking, based on binary/source already in dapper [12:29] so that it can track unmet dependencies, and if someone uploads a package to revu it can check if the unmet deps are satisfied === ajmitch needs to spec it out asap === alexr [n=alexr@alex.neuro.umn.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:29] ajmitch++ :) [12:30] Yeah ajmitch, get to work ;-P [12:30] sistpoty: basically I'd have the whole apt binary & source list in postgresql & I've got part of a dependency resolver to work it out [12:30] so I could make unmet deps lists for each arch, and the apt cache can be used for plenty of other things [12:31] bddebian: I will, don't worry ;) [12:31] ajmitch: sounds great... revu1/2 is using pg as well, so this shouldn't be too hard to get into revu2 [12:31] sistpoty: and then we get data from launchpad as well :) [12:31] hehe [12:31] sistpoty: that's why I suggested postgres === bddebian has been useless lately :'-( [12:32] ajmitch: sistpoty I'm sorry that I'm too tired for real discussion now, but how do you think about an upgrade to breezy for tiber? [12:32] siretart: ++ [12:32] siretart++ [12:32] we know breezy inside out by now ;) [12:32] hrhr [12:33] pg 8.0? [12:33] siretart: I read the specs for revu2... sounds good... but i'm a little tired for discussion right now as well *g* [12:33] sistpoty: are there trouble expected with postgres upgrade? [12:33] siretart: nope... i have revu1 running in sid with 8.0 [12:33] sistpoty: how about a sqlite backend for revu2? [12:33] sistpoty: great. === ajmitch will rewrite his merge calculator to use apt cache in postgres then [12:34] why sqlite? === sistpoty looks for sqlite [12:34] I thought of that on the way to work as well (sqlite) [12:34] ajmitch: it is easier to administer [12:34] but less powerful [12:34] this is the part i'm not sure yet [12:34] what features would we miss from postgres? [12:34] I might want a few postgres features [12:34] and revu1/2 already uses postgres-specifics for some things :( [12:34] not sure yet [12:34] sistpoty: which ones? [12:35] siretart: i don't know what sqlite can do... but postgres is pretty good sql-standard so that would be a + for postgres [12:35] good night [12:35] gn8 dholbach [12:35] night dholbach [12:35] gn8 daniel! [12:35] (and i'm quite familiar with postgres *g*) === ajmitch can probably brush up on his postgres admin stuff [12:35] sistpoty: great :) [12:36] sistpoty: perhaps we should have a meeting and discussing postgres vs sqlite [12:36] well, okay, I see, we are on postgres :) [12:36] sure... we should meet anyway ;) === ajmitch feels like using sqlobject to do his magic :) [12:36] sistpoty: when will you come next to uni? [12:36] activerecord and ruby! [12:37] Lathiat: don't be sick [12:37] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/HowToMerge [12:37] ajmitch: dont you be sick! [12:37] siretart: imo compiler construction 3 starts next tuesday...? [12:37] Lathiat: intercal 4 life! [12:37] compielr construction? [12:37] sistpoty: next monday. [12:37] ajmitch: heh [12:37] sistpoty: and this weekend is invasion! :) [12:37] siretart: hehe... ok, then I'll be there next monday [12:37] Lathiat: I'll try & get my merge stuff done asap [12:37] to make it easier on people [12:38] gna... got pretty heavy workload this week/weekend :( [12:38] oh :( [12:38] well okay, well see on monday then. === siretart heads for bed. [12:38] gn8 siretart [12:38] also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/HowTopatch [12:38] feel free to edit, etc [12:38] also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/HowToPatch, rather [12:39] i've put down what i know [12:39] gn8 folks [12:39] HowTomerge coudl do with extra transition info [12:39] night siretart [12:39] and ogra and ajmtich and stuff shoudl probably look over HowToPatch === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0EAC.versanet.de] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === _Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:39] Lathiat: will do [12:40] will do.. === sistpoty needs some sleep now [12:42] gn8 [12:42] and its time for me to sleep [12:42] night all [12:42] or morning i should say [12:46] Good day all === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:57] Later folks [12:57] MOTUs: ok, I made a wiki page for documentation https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUDocIdeas === koke $ sudo halt [12:58] LaserJock: Cool, I'll check it out [01:04] LaserJock: looks good [01:04] most of the 'Process' section will be obsolete now [01:06] ajmitch: yea, now that I have them organized, I am going to go back through and mark obsolete ones [01:08] although, I think it would be nice to have a general Todo wiki to have one place to see where/what things are going on [01:09] yep [01:11] ok, I gotta go for now, but I will work some more on it === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:21] HowToPatch looks fine despite the typos [01:23] howdy ogra [01:24] hey schweeb_ === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-41-155.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chihau [n=chihau@200.54.132.71] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:18] ok i"m back [02:22] ogra: any work to be done yet? I recently developed a bit of free time :) === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-071-190.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-41-195.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LostSole [n=drain@dsl092-238-221.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === wickedpuppy [n=wickedpu@222.164.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487FBEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] hi all [03:05] could someone talk with me about emacs packages? === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-160-754.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@15.238.7.124] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=icechat5@adsl-69-227-134-221.dsl.renocs.nvbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-41-195.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:26] is there a difference between a reviewer and a uploader on REVU? [03:26] yes [03:27] reviewer can advocate packages for upload to ubuntu [03:27] ajmitch: is there a difference in requirements? Can anybody be a reviewer? [03:27] MOTUs can [03:27] but anybody can be an uploader? [03:28] yes [03:28] that's the intent [03:28] ok, thanks for clarifying that [03:29] It doesn't really say that on wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU though [03:30] then it's another page to fix :) [03:30] lol, guess so [03:33] UniverseCandidates needs to be more prominent [03:34] I just saw someone adding package requests to the goal section of the DapperDrake page [03:34] yeah, there were a couple of pages that I had never seen before [03:38] LaserJock: maybe link to some of the orphaned MOTU pages on here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OrphanedPages [03:38] the /talk pages generally aren't as useful === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] lol, I just found BddebianIsAGod === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:46] yep [03:46] I was thinking of doing that ;-) === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:48] I wish Trashcan would fix his client/computer/network.. :) [03:48] me too [03:48] Trashcan: connectivity issues? [03:48] yup [03:49] connection going bonkers, dunno why :o [03:49] might be storms === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] should be better :) === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@210.213.70.97] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:06] mmm [04:06] Final Fantasy Advent Children is really good so far :D [04:07] the trailer looked mildly entertaining === bur[n] er hasn't seen an english version anywhere [04:07] Subtitled :D [04:07] i haven't seen english subtitled even... only german and swedish [04:07] AnimeYume [04:07] i still watched about 20 minutes worth ;) === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TiMiDo [n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/timido] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-247-41-252.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Am|NickTaken [n=travis@AC9952AD.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@unaffiliated/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@ip101109.101.nas.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TiMiDo [n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/timido] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] Man that was good [05:02] granted you have to have played through FF7 to understand half the stuff in it :P [05:02] what? [05:03] Final Fantasy Advent Children :D [05:05] I'm gonna go see it in theaters even though I just saw it. Its gonna be frickin' AWESOME with the big screen and the sound system! === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] lol [05:53] you got it from a torrent [05:53] hehe [05:57] yahso? [05:57] Actually I didn't [05:57] I got it from a friend who got it from a friend who got it from a torrent ;P [06:02] remember these channels are logged ;) === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:04] Gnight folks [06:04] night bddebian [06:14] bah ajmitch [06:14] ? [06:14] ajmitch remember these channels are logged ;) [06:14] yes? [06:15] having to bring things such as "legality" into it ;P === ajmitch never did any such thing [06:16] all I did was remind you that channels are logged [06:16] very heavily implied my friend ;P [06:19] but in this case it most likely ends up in the movie companies favor, because now I really wanna see it in the theater (something I usually don't do) [06:31] lol [06:33] Anyway. Bedtime [06:34] I got bored and browsed SourceForge for games to package and I think I picked out some good ones....so thats what I'm gonna do tomarrow after homework === ogra [n=ogra@p5089E0D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:38] Kyral: cool :) check out http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGames has links to game lists etc === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:54] whoa, mignight. bed time [06:54] heh [06:55] it's great when you stumble across python bugs [06:58] ajmitch, hopefully this --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates will have an LP solution soon [06:58] I hope so [06:58] ajmitch: python has no bugs! [06:58] ajmitch, for all his sins, sabdfl thought it was cool [06:58] but the DapperDrake page really wasn't the place for package requests for now [06:58] haha [06:59] f**k me how long is that page [06:59] yeah I sparked a 30min debate about package versioning yesterday when I questioned his wisdom :) [06:59] yes, I saw that [06:59] where was that? [06:59] -devel [06:59] #ubuntu-devel [06:59] what time? === ajmitch shrugs [06:59] hey people =) === Lathiat tries to use the power of less instead [07:00] Lathiat, around utc 7am [07:00] about 9:30pm last night, NZDT :) [07:00] later than 0700UTC === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:01] ok [07:04] "i agree with you philosopically, but technically your argumen tis bullshit === Lathiat laughs [07:04] and i cant speeel === nybble [n=nybble@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/nybble] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TiMiDo [n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/timido] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CaiN_SA [n=cain@rrba-146-94-75.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cain_ [n=cain@rrba-146-94-75.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:24] TiMiDo: please, don't change nick so many times when you're in a number of channels :) === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chihau [n=chihau@200.54.132.71] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@unaffiliated/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@vpn-imt3.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:40] somebody already awake? [08:41] almost bed time... === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] i am awake :) [08:48] fine :) anything to do currently? ;) === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=michael@12.104.131.2] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [08:58] i thought today's a bugday? [08:58] yes === vnpaven [i=tiburon@spf.hptvietnam.com.vn] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GoRoDeK [n=gorodek@p5083EED9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:04] Hello everybody [09:05] Can you tell me how to install Ubuntu from harddisk (without burning CD from ISO file)? [09:06] vnpaven: uh, not in 2-3 lines [09:06] vnpaven: it _can_ be done but it's not easy [09:06] i know someone who upgraded from hoary to a breezy iso though [09:07] hmm [09:07] is https://launchpad.net/people/motu/+assignedbugs working for someone? [09:08] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948&highlight=Install+harddisk [09:09] This is the link talk about this topic but not finish. Can you please continue to talk so that make it become How to ...? [09:11] slomo: seems to be loading here [09:11] 70% === Lathiat waits [09:11] yep loaded [09:14] Lathiat: hmm... i get RequestExpired [09:14] A server error occurred. [09:14] weird [09:14] i was getting that [09:14] works here [09:14] ask in #launchpad? [09:15] asked ;) === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.209.110] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MasterC [n=chans@dslb-084-060-207-012.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-098-228.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CaiN_SA [n=cain@rrba-146-94-75.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jtan325 [n=jtan325@c-67-183-143-91.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MasterC [n=chans@dslb-084-060-215-179.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa96.6.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0EAC.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:06] hi dholbach [10:06] good morning [10:06] hey andrew === nybble [n=nybble@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/nybble] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:08] morning daniel [10:08] hey jerome, how are you? [10:08] dholbach: please look at that amd64 gazpacho bug... my brother prepared a debdiff for the package which seems to work... the patch is from upstream [10:08] great...i always see your face in my laptop..can i ask for more? [10:09] slomo: excellent, i have it on my todo list [10:09] dholbach: something for breezy-updates? [10:09] i'm currently working on that drgeo-menus-don't-work bug... seems to be related to c++ symbol mangling :( [10:10] slomo: probably, yes [10:10] dholbach: is there a short summary of the meeting of yesterday because it's a bit chaotic to read through :) [10:10] otherwise I'll wait till after some coffee before I try to read it again [10:10] Mortas: there will be once I write it up [10:11] hi ajmitch :) [10:11] hello slomo [10:11] no I've been busy, I haven't looked at them today ;) [10:12] that's going on my 'long weekend/public holiday' pile [10:18] ajmitch: hehe ok :) thanks [10:18] how long is your weekend? [10:18] 3 days [10:18] this weekend === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:18] :) [10:19] dholbach: hehe, praise me :) i fixed drgeo ;) === ajmitch starts the SlomoIsAGod page [10:19] WOW :))) [10:19] dholbach: sadly it needs patching autofoo === dholbach hugs slomo [10:20] or maybe i can set LDFLAGS for configure... hmm [10:21] where shall i send i mail to approve and upload my patch? mdz? [10:22] yes [10:22] yes [10:22] email debdiff [10:22] he *might* approve [10:22] I've got to email him my f-spot debdiff [10:22] since f-spot is killing data in its sleep [10:22] (on ppc) [10:22] hehe... it's a one-liner and makes the program usable again [10:23] f-spot is a 4 line patch from upstream [10:23] yes, i looked at it [10:23] he didn't approve it? [10:23] I haven't emailed it yet [10:23] since I didn't want to do that while I was at work [10:23] and I only prepared the upload during the MOTU meeting :) [10:23] oh, and beagle broke jdub's fs [10:24] yay [10:24] beagle love [10:24] hehe [10:28] ok, mail sent === ajmitch would rather test his package a little bit before submitting [10:42] ajmitch: imho not needed for drgeo... it's only a new linker flag which should be there anyway and makes it possible for libglade to find some symbols... doesn't change anything else [10:43] ajmitch: and the bug that was reported disappeared... the menus actually work again ;) [10:43] yes, whereas f-spot is currently working in breezy [10:43] yes [10:43] so if an update broke it, I'd be dead [10:43] shall i test it a bit on ppc? [10:43] please do, you want my package? [10:43] yes [10:44] wget http://ajmitch.meta.net.nz/debuild/ubuntu/tmp/f-spot_0.1.3-1ubuntu1.1.d{sc,iff.gz} [10:44] don't want to compile anything today... otherwise i don't have enough power for the next 2 hours ;) [10:45] hm... isn't f-spot arch all? [10:45] grab the orig.tar.gz from the mirror [10:45] no [10:45] although it possibly should be === ajmitch has to review if it has any arch-specific code [10:46] it has [10:46] right [10:46] I thought arch: any was right :) [10:47] you don't have a fast ppc? [10:49] i don't enough battery [10:49] ah.. :) [10:49] use an ac adaptor! ;) [10:51] forgot mine today ;) [10:51] heh [10:51] silly === ajmitch *really* has to make sure he packs that for UBZ === zyga_ [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c180034.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B1A52.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] ogra: alive? [11:16] Mortas, gimme a moment... [11:17] whats your BZ login ? [11:17] kristian@xsguard.com [11:17] ogra: do you have bugzilla SUPAH POWAH? if so, could you give me permissions to set default assignees for packages? [11:18] i suppose, i need more powah for that [11:18] Mortas, you have read and understood the according wikipages ? HelpingWithBugs etc ? === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:19] dholbach_, i have only editusers power, mvo has editcomponents [11:20] ahhh cooll [11:20] and who has givepeopleeditcomponents? [11:20] just matt? [11:21] ogra: yes I have, and if I'm in doubt about something I will discuss in ubuntu-bugs first before I change anything [11:21] probably kiko too on a lower level [11:21] database haxxoring [11:21] Mortas, ok, you got the power, use it wise luke ;) [11:21] thank you :) [11:22] use the force and run little padawan... [11:22] heh === ajmitch wishes he had supremeultimatepowah ;) [11:22] jsgotangco: run? fly! [11:22] ajmitch, should be supremefunkadeliultimateboppydoopypowah [11:23] hacksawpowah [11:23] no I already have that one [11:23] you don't have the limited edition mothership mode [11:23] heh === ajmitch wanders off for an early night [11:24] bye all [11:24] hahaha early night [11:24] night andrew [11:24] yeh right ;p [11:25] early == before 11pm [11:25] I would like to get > 4 hours sleep for a change ;) [11:26] heh i got 4 hours slepe last night [11:26] the world wouldnt let me get back to sleep [11:26] phone calls [11:26] aunty home [11:26] battery flat in car [11:26] put the grocieries away [11:26] more phone calls [11:26] etc etc [11:26] i gave up === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:02] hi all - I would like to prepare a bunch of new packages for emacs and got some 'fundamental' questions - I need some emacs/debian policy guru to talk - anyone? === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga_ server hardware change === slomo [n=slomo@131.234.209.129] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:10] ajmitch: i'll test f-spot now... i was eating ;) [12:15] ajmitch: it eats my jpegs when rotating ;) [12:16] ajmitch: with every jpeg === vnpaven [i=tiburon@spf.hptvietnam.com.vn] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tifa [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mbreit [n=mo@p548B41C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:30] hello, can someone check this http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=803 ? thanks ! === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487FBEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] pef: is this proposed for -updates ? [01:36] Lathiat: sorry, don't understand [01:37] pef: is this the kcheckgmail packaged prosped for breezy-updates [01:38] Lathiat: yes, because it corrects an important bug === ryu [n=chris@p5487F08A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] pef: right, is it possible to just patch and not have a new upstream? [01:39] Lathiat: will try to apply my patch to current version [01:40] pef: i mean, since the package is useless, its probably not a huge issue [01:40] what does the new version change? [01:40] also 0.5.4 is in debian [01:40] if yoru going to do a new upstream you could considering grabbing that + our patch [01:40] as 1ubuntu1 [01:40] -> less merge effort later [01:42] Lathiat: So i have to get debian's version, apply my patch and upload this to revu, right ? [01:42] i guess [01:42] but not doing a new upstream at all would be preferable i guess [01:43] is there any common naming convention for emacs packages in ubuntu? [01:43] Lathiat: when upstream author will release new version, can I upload this version when dapper will be open ? [01:44] pef: of course [01:44] pef: it would be synced from debian anyway [01:44] pef: also, please file your patch in the debian bug [01:44] Lathiat: I've sent a link to my patch [01:44] pef: cool === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] Lathiat: I don't fully understand difference between grabbing Debian's version and patch it, and upload new upstream version (same as Debian) and patch it, is it only a merge problem ? [01:48] pef: we need to stay as close to debian as possible [01:48] pef: less work later on [01:48] we have enough work to do [01:49] Lathiat: ok, should I upload to revu using dput as usual, or give a link to a debdiff ? [01:50] janimo is here! :) [01:50] woo [01:51] pef: ummm [01:51] pef: dunno, but throw me a debdiff [01:58] Lathiat: ok, same work to do with this bug ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/qtparted/+bug/3212 [02:00] pef: that wont go into breezy [02:00] pef: but for dapper, yes [02:00] if theres a new debian apckage [02:00] best to keep in line with that [02:00] (i know its a hassle sometimes when debian is a bit behind, but it saves us more work in the long run) [02:00] e.g. feel free to upload before debian gets anew version, but when they do, its nice to sync up [02:02] foo-1.0 is in Debian and ubuntu repository, if foo-1.1 is released, I can package it for Dapper, and when Debian uploads its own 1.1 release, I should sync from them ? [02:03] basically [02:03] and what's the role of utnubu team ? [02:03] like, you can reapply your changes or whatever, just try hard to keep our packages the same [02:03]