ogra | its the legacy tool to set up ltsp | 12:04 |
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jelkner | do we install ltspadmin in edubuntu? | 12:04 |
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ogra | we still support the legacy ltsp... | 12:04 |
bluefrog-10 | hi just installed samba+ldap on ubu-server and no more sudo (pam can't retrieve authentif info)any1 can help? | 12:04 |
ogra | nope, but its in universe | 12:04 |
jelkner | ok, so i won't worry about it | 12:05 |
jelkner | but i'm glad to know in case i hear someone talking about it | 12:05 |
ogra | bluefrog-10, sorry, to tired... i'm here since 20h | 12:05 |
jelkner | i gotta run, thanks ogra! | 12:05 |
bluefrog-10 | :) | 12:05 |
ogra | ciao jelkner | 12:05 |
ogra | bluefrog-10, probably in #ubuntu | 12:05 |
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pitux | hello | 01:27 |
pitux | i need help for test about tecnology and education for teachers? | 01:27 |
pitux | alguien que hable espa~nol y me ayude con el idioma | 01:28 |
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pschulz01 | Hello... is there any artwork for Edubuntu suitable for printing onto CD? | 02:37 |
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dabaR | pschulz01: did you look at the web site? | 02:44 |
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pschulz01 | dabaR: looking... can't see anything there though. | 03:19 |
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N6REJ | good evening all.. what is the difference between breezy standard and edubuntu? | 05:40 |
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BeanDip | howdy folks | 06:34 |
BeanDip | having a problem here | 06:34 |
BeanDip | I installed ubuntu breezy server | 06:34 |
BeanDip | installed ltsp following the wiki guide | 06:34 |
BeanDip | I get booted up to a xdm login screen | 06:34 |
BeanDip | but I can't login with any of my server's user accounts | 06:34 |
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highvoltage | heh | 09:17 |
juliux | hi | 09:17 |
highvoltage | hu juliux | 09:18 |
juliux | we lost our chanserv | 09:18 |
highvoltage | freenode in a stat of chaos | 09:18 |
juliux | no not freenode | 09:18 |
juliux | its level3 | 09:18 |
juliux | http://scoreboard.keynote.com/Scoreboard/Main.aspx | 09:19 |
highvoltage | ok | 09:21 |
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berlinux | hi | 10:11 |
berlinux | ogra, awake already? | 10:12 |
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ogra | tsk... missed them... | 10:25 |
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highvoltage | I love Ubuntu! | 11:48 |
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ogra | we all do :) | 11:51 |
ogra | but i love edubuntu more :P | 11:51 |
JaneW | heh | 11:51 |
highvoltage | i love edubuntu and ubuntu equally. | 11:52 |
highvoltage | okay okay, i'm lying. i like edubuntu more too :) | 11:52 |
JaneW | ogra: cool -> 11:00 Mighty Edubuntu - Ubuntu for Kids and Schools | 11:54 |
JaneW | Oliver Grawert | 11:54 |
ogra | love day ? | 11:55 |
highvoltage | oh yes, i started putting the python pages together: http://www.ossn.co.za/edubuntu/6/index.py?tour | 11:56 |
highvoltage | if you click on the images now you get it in an edubuntu page, instead of just a image. | 11:57 |
juliux | ogra, the edubuntu server will be in Essen | 11:57 |
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juliux | ogra, i have bought my ticket today | 11:57 |
ogra | great ... | 11:58 |
juliux | ogra, i travel 15h with the train | 12:00 |
ogra | gah | 12:00 |
juliux | ogra, both ways | 12:00 |
juliux | ogra, i will have enough time to read my university stuff | 12:01 |
ogra | heh | 12:03 |
bluefrog-10 | ogra can't talk right now cause am going to eat but i'd like to have a chat with u later on if possible about samba-ldap edubuntu. (not asking questions but hopefully helping you on that, i don't know how far advanced you are on that project) | 12:04 |
ogra | not far yet, every help appreciated :-D | 12:05 |
ogra | highvoltage, the ooo2 pics are missing | 12:08 |
ogra | (the zoomed ones) | 12:08 |
bluefrog-10 | k c ya later have done a good job (well for my skills which are not high...). have to test it from scratch again to see if it works straight that time. | 12:10 |
highvoltage | ogra: ok, i'll sort it out. | 12:11 |
highvoltage | apt-cache is broken. if i type apt-cache search quake4 it returns nothing :) | 12:13 |
ogra | highvoltage, doom3 isnt found either :/ | 12:17 |
ogra | as well as doom4 :) | 12:18 |
ogra | or 5 | 12:18 |
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ogra | JaneW, relax a bit... go sleeping... | 12:29 |
ajmitch_ | hi ogra, juliux | 12:30 |
ajmitch_ | s/juliux/janew/ | 12:30 |
ogra | hey ajmitch_ | 12:30 |
ajmitch_ | silly tab complete :) | 12:30 |
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JaneW | hi ajmitch_ | 12:36 |
JaneW | ogra - I'd love to! | 12:36 |
ajmitch_ | too busy? | 12:37 |
ogra | just do it ... or is your schedule to stuffed ? | 12:37 |
JaneW | I'm at the office mainly... | 12:43 |
JaneW | and have stuff to do | 12:43 |
JaneW | and have to give chmj a lift home (but maybe we can leave a little early) | 12:44 |
JaneW | nobody has a proposal on http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuShippingPlans yet... so it's unlikely we'll be printing CDs :/ | 12:47 |
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JaneW | ogra: was there any conclusion to that distro discussion? I didn't get a single direct answer... | 01:11 |
ogra | JaneW, yes, there wont be a distinction | 01:12 |
JaneW | ogra: ok | 01:13 |
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highvoltage | weekend. must. come.... now.... | 01:58 |
ogra | pfft... | 01:58 |
ogra | its not even 2pm here .... | 01:58 |
JaneW | highvoltage: ditto | 01:59 |
JaneW | highvoltage: where's that joy from yesterday - I need some... | 01:59 |
ajmitch_ | hm | 01:59 |
ajmitch_ | 1am sat morning here | 02:00 |
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JaneW | night :) | 02:01 |
ogra | sleep well ajmitch_ | 02:02 |
ajmitch_ | night | 02:02 |
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ogra | Yagisan, here ? | 02:22 |
Yagisan | ogra: yeah | 02:25 |
ogra | i have a breezy user who cant boot his clients from floppy... | 02:25 |
Yagisan | rather stressed though - have uni assignment due in 45 minutes and I started it today =-O | 02:25 |
ogra | he seems to use a .zdsk... | 02:26 |
Yagisan | yep - go on | 02:26 |
ogra | i guess he rather needs .zpxe ? | 02:26 |
Yagisan | .zdsk is a raw floppy image | 02:26 |
ogra | yes | 02:26 |
ogra | and plain etherboot as i understand it | 02:27 |
Yagisan | my guess is tha either a) he did tick to put a pxe stack on the floppy | 02:27 |
Yagisan | s/did/did not/ | 02:27 |
Yagisan | b) his floppy isn't working | 02:27 |
Yagisan | c) he picked the wrong driver | 02:27 |
ogra | they were working with redhat he says | 02:28 |
ogra | (he's in #ltsp) | 02:28 |
Yagisan | ogra: I'll join in half a sec | 02:28 |
ogra | edubuntu on its first fair :) -> http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/berlinux/DSCN9044.JPG | 02:37 |
ogra | JaneW ^^ | 02:37 |
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JaneW | ogra: COOL | 02:52 |
ogra | yup | 02:53 |
JaneW | nice pic | 02:53 |
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juliux | strange why i dont know anything that ubuntu is there ? | 02:55 |
ogra | are you active in the berlin LUG ? | 02:56 |
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juliux | ogra, now but i do the fair work for germany | 02:56 |
juliux | s/germany/ubuntu in germany | 02:56 |
ogra | thats organized by the LUG | 02:57 |
juliux | ogra, thats right but we, jrg and I do manage that ubuntu have a both on this fairs | 02:57 |
ogra | this time the LUG managed it internally, whats wrong ? | 02:58 |
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highvoltage | ogra: how's berlin lug? | 03:12 |
ogra | no idea | 03:13 |
ogra | i'm not there... thats doko | 03:13 |
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highvoltage | he kept on talking about how great ms project is. | 03:14 |
highvoltage | i just couldn't take it anymore. | 03:14 |
ogra | there is no matching software in linux yet... so he might be right... | 03:16 |
highvoltage | it's not about linux. | 03:16 |
highvoltage | it's about me, not having to hear what he's using. | 03:16 |
highvoltage | what he does in his computer is his choice, but i don't have to hear about it. | 03:16 |
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ogra | true :) | 03:20 |
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Yagisan | highvoltage: I find projectile vomiting on people stops them from saying how wonderful MS software is :) | 03:24 |
highvoltage | Yagisan: i'll practice that, thanks, that's good advice | 03:26 |
ogra | eek | 03:26 |
highvoltage | my word. our wiki pages are in a bigger mess than i thought. | 03:27 |
highvoltage | according to our wiki frontpage, all the docs are here: http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/debian.jpg | 03:28 |
highvoltage | pgg... wrong link :) | 03:28 |
highvoltage | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation | 03:28 |
highvoltage | StepByStepLtspSetup on that page is far outdated, and i think there are lots of pages missing. | 03:29 |
highvoltage | (pages that exist that's not listed) | 03:29 |
ogra | woah, what a pic | 03:30 |
ogra | so wipe it ... | 03:30 |
highvoltage | and wiki.edubuntu.org should link to /EdubuntuWiki | 03:30 |
highvoltage | yes, i will | 03:30 |
highvoltage | ogra: do you know what the decision was from the docteam? I think I heard they discussed whether they should cover the 'other' distros such as edubuntu and kubuntu as well. | 03:31 |
highvoltage | pity jsgotango isn't here. | 03:31 |
ogra | no idea, but we tarted for motu to make all docs /MOTU/Teams /MOTU/Blah etc | 03:33 |
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Yagisan | ogra: in current ltsp - swap over nbd isn't possible yet is it ? | 03:42 |
ogra | i thought it is... | 03:42 |
Yagisan | ogra: It's not set up that way by default ? no config files for the client | 03:43 |
Yagisan | to tell it to use a swap file on the server | 03:44 |
ogra | ah, ok.. i have to discuss that with mdz | 03:44 |
highvoltage | have a good weekend, #edubuntu. | 03:46 |
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ogra | cool | 03:55 |
ogra | magnon, what do you do there ? | 03:56 |
magnon | waiting to go to Montreal ;) | 03:56 |
magnon | visiting a friend first | 03:56 |
ogra | ah, nice | 03:56 |
magnon | nice enough now | 03:56 |
ogra | when will you arrive in .ca ? | 03:56 |
magnon | on Saturday | 03:57 |
magnon | hm | 03:57 |
magnon | or was it Friday | 03:57 |
magnon | the 28th, which is Friday | 03:57 |
enyc | 0000 | 03:59 |
magnon | I'll have to remember handing in the little visa waiver form stub to the canadians | 04:00 |
magnon | they almost didn't let me into the country because I didn't know the exact house number here | 04:00 |
Yagisan | woohoo - assignment in with 60 seconds to spare :) | 04:01 |
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doko | hi ogra | 04:03 |
ogra | hey doko | 04:03 |
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doko | well, the edubuntu desktop looks really more interesting than the ubuntu desktop :-) | 04:15 |
ogra | hehe | 04:19 |
ogra | people already called me "racist" because of the wallpaper :) | 04:19 |
ogra | (did you note the girl is "only white" !) | 04:20 |
ogra | (and i'm not joking) | 04:20 |
Yagisan | ogra: it's racist to discriminate against white girls too | 04:21 |
Yagisan | ogra: and that girl is clearly yellow | 04:21 |
Yagisan | ogra: someone should recalibrate their monitor | 04:21 |
ogra | depends, on my laptop screen it appears white :) | 04:21 |
ogra | cant calibrate | 04:21 |
ogra | only brightness | 04:22 |
Yagisan | ogra: I admit, a really pale shade of yellow, but it is yellow | 04:22 |
ogra | ext release we'll make her blue and nobody can complain :) | 04:22 |
Yagisan | ogra: that's racist - what about all the green people :-P | 04:25 |
ogra | damned, you areright... and the violet ones | 04:26 |
vmarks | the green ones are soylent anyway | 04:26 |
ogra | lol | 04:26 |
Yagisan | ogra: then we have to contend with the sexist comments | 04:28 |
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ogra | Yagisan, oh yes... we'll need a crowd with all colours and genders as wallpaper next release i guess ;) | 04:28 |
Yagisan | ogra: then we need everything from fetuses to corpses so we don't get accused of age bias | 04:30 |
ogra | we only target 6-18 :) | 04:30 |
ogra | (6-16 imho) | 04:30 |
Yagisan | yes - put we have to be "politically correct" don't we | 04:31 |
Yagisan | then we need gays and straights | 04:31 |
Yagisan | and then the transgenders | 04:31 |
Yagisan | or we could go with a picture of say puppys | 04:32 |
Yagisan | and all the pc bullshit can go out the window | 04:32 |
ogra | oh god, the schools will kill me... gays and straights on a school wallpaper :) probably pic of christoper street day | 04:33 |
ogra | i think we'll go completely without animals and humans next time :) | 04:34 |
ogra | abstract and colourful | 04:34 |
Yagisan | I think we should be really controversial, I say go the goatse man - that will get us lots of attention :-P | 04:34 |
ogra | heh | 04:35 |
Yagisan | if that's too controversial, we could go with the censored version :) | 04:35 |
ogra | we could just reuse the warty calendar artwork and tinit it in different colors :) | 04:36 |
Yagisan | seriously, are the pc whingers are that big of a problem ? | 04:37 |
ogra | not really... but it made some trouble after release | 04:37 |
Yagisan | I really don't understand their issues, and I'm White, my Wife is Yellow, and my little girl is Coffee | 04:40 |
Yagisan | so I'd be in tune with real racist issues | 04:40 |
Yagisan | yet I really can't see the issue with a pastel coloured girl wallpaper | 04:40 |
ogra | me neither... | 04:41 |
ogra | but some people always find something to complain | 04:41 |
jeffbuntu | Hi, you give me some advice last wednesday (pseudo jeffc) | 04:42 |
ogra | yup | 04:42 |
jeffbuntu | today i made a new fresh install to test | 04:43 |
Yagisan | If I did, I wouldn't remember - I'm bad with names | 04:43 |
jeffbuntu | all the install go ok, but | 04:43 |
jeffbuntu | the mouse doesn't work on terminal(s) | 04:44 |
jeffbuntu | and i don't find some lts.conf | 04:44 |
Yagisan | sounds like psmouse isn't loaded | 04:44 |
ogra | jeffbuntu, that was a serial mouse, right ? | 04:45 |
jeffbuntu | no ps2 | 04:45 |
ogra | hmm | 04:45 |
ogra | that should work... | 04:45 |
jeffbuntu | is there some config file to adjust? like lts.conf | 04:46 |
ogra | try setting a root password for the thin client: | 04:46 |
ogra | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd | 04:46 |
ogra | then switch to console on the client and log in as root... | 04:47 |
Yagisan | jeffbuntu: are all systems ps2 mice ? | 04:47 |
ogra | (ctrl-alt-f1) | 04:47 |
jeffbuntu | the two i have try | 04:47 |
ogra | and look if the psmouse module is loaded | 04:47 |
jeffbuntu | i see | 04:47 |
ogra | the keyboard works ? | 04:48 |
jeffbuntu | yes | 04:48 |
ogra | if you cant find it with: lsmod|grep psmouse | 04:49 |
ogra | add the word psmouse to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/modules | 04:49 |
ogra | its a bit strange since mousedev should pull in psmouse | 04:49 |
ogra | and mousedev is hardcoded in this file | 04:50 |
ogra | after you are done, dont forget to lock the root pw: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd -l (on the server) | 04:50 |
jeffbuntu | i've reboot the terminal, and it say login incorrect (with root) | 05:03 |
jeffbuntu | i don't reboot the server | 05:03 |
ogra | on the console ? | 05:03 |
ogra | that should work... | 05:04 |
ogra | are you sure the password is right? | 05:04 |
ogra | (no need to reboot anything) | 05:04 |
jeffbuntu | i try with another password | 05:04 |
jeffbuntu | with "toto" no problem, but the grep wtih "mouse" show only mousedev | 05:07 |
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ogra | try modprobe psmouse | 05:09 |
ogra | switch to ctrl-alt-f7 and hit ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X... see if it works | 05:09 |
Yagisan | jeffbuntu: how did it go ? | 05:09 |
jeffbuntu | i see in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/modules and there is only one module : mousedev | 05:10 |
ogra | yes, thats ok... | 05:10 |
ogra | it normally triggers a hotplug event that loads psmouse | 05:10 |
jeffbuntu | it's okay with the modprobe | 05:11 |
ogra | but if the modprobe works, you should add it to that file | 05:11 |
ogra | then te hotplug event has a race condition or something else is wrong... | 05:11 |
ogra | you are the second person that had this prob, so i'll have to investigate a bit more why it doesnt get loaded for some people ... | 05:12 |
ogra | it definately works here :/ | 05:12 |
jeffbuntu | i can give you my "dmesg" | 05:13 |
ogra | yes, can you mail it to ogra@ubuntu.com ? i'll archive it for further investigtion :) | 05:14 |
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jeffbuntu | it's gone, i've to use an old floppy to copy the file from the terminal to my pc | 05:27 |
ogra | ok... i'll have to investigate anyway... dont make o much hassle there | 05:29 |
jeffbuntu | I've a subsidiary question, is there a simple method to re-use the account of users when you change of linux distribution (with a home partition on another partition) ? | 05:32 |
ogra | sure | 05:33 |
jeffbuntu | yes ;) | 05:33 |
ogra | just make sure the ID is the same.... | 05:33 |
jeffbuntu | re create the users with the same id it's that | 05:34 |
ogra | yes | 05:36 |
jeffbuntu | what's about "rights" and passwords ? | 05:37 |
ogra | i'd set the passwords with the tool the distro uses... | 05:42 |
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ogra | the rights will apply as they did before | 05:42 |
ogra | the only important thing is that the ID matches | 05:42 |
mhz | moin | 05:43 |
Yagisan | G'day mhz - been waiting ages for you | 05:44 |
mhz | lol | 05:44 |
Yagisan | didn't see you at all yesterday | 05:44 |
mhz | Yagisan: Victor Moral got back to work today. | 05:44 |
mhz | I'll have a tech meeting with him at 15:40 today | 05:45 |
jeffbuntu | okay, thanks a lot and good week-end in your country (mine is France as you devine with my poor english ;) ) | 05:45 |
mhz | Yagisan: yep, I've been making phone calls for the EdubunTour | 05:45 |
Yagisan | mhz: the suspense is killing my wife | 05:45 |
mhz | hehehe | 05:45 |
Yagisan | no worries jeffbuntu | 05:46 |
Yagisan | mhz - she keeps asking - do you have an email yet ? | 05:46 |
mhz | please do not have great expectations. Even if the gang says "yes", we'll still gotta make biz plans | 05:46 |
mhz | ogra: what do you prefer better? EdubunTour or Edubuntu Chilean Tour ? | 05:47 |
Yagisan | mhz: I know - but it allows all of us to make plans (preferably to our mutual benefit) | 05:48 |
ogra | we already have a website called edubuntu tour ... so chilenian might be better | 05:48 |
mhz | Yagisan: booting/ do you if it is possible to have a CD for multiple types of netcard machines to boot from? | 05:48 |
mhz | ogra: oh, i see | 05:49 |
Yagisan | mhz: no (far too many pc's do not support multi-boot el-torito to make it practical) | 05:50 |
mhz | however, I hope you see the 'Edubun_Tour' game | 05:50 |
mhz | Yagisan: so, a floppy for each machine? | 05:50 |
mhz | Yagisan: i mean, if i have 30 machines that do not boot from eth0, then, i'll have to make a floppy for each? | 05:51 |
ogra | mhz, you could run around with one floppy everytime you boot :p | 05:52 |
ogra | this also keeps the network load low if you only boot a client at a time :) | 05:52 |
Yagisan | mhz: you need one for each different type of nic | 05:52 |
ogra | might take ages though | 05:52 |
mhz | :( | 05:52 |
mhz | tsktsktsktsk | 05:52 |
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Yagisan | mhz: you just need a few cd's for the most common nics | 05:54 |
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mhz | ok, I see | 05:55 |
Yagisan | mhz: can I get you to fix something on the wiki | 05:58 |
Yagisan | mhz: I'd like to send you some documentation to put on the wiki | 05:58 |
mhz | of course | 05:58 |
mhz | np | 05:58 |
Yagisan | mhz: and make it look nice | 05:58 |
mhz | hehehe | 05:59 |
mhz | np | 05:59 |
Yagisan | mhz: A cleaned up etherboot howto | 05:59 |
mhz | ok, do you want me to replace if for another existing page? or new page? | 05:59 |
Yagisan | mhz: Replace the existing page (my irc chat) | 06:00 |
mhz | okidoki | 06:00 |
Yagisan | mhz: it's this page http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientWithoutPxe | 06:00 |
mhz | ogra: i cant get to edubuntu tour page | 06:03 |
ogra | http://www.edubuntu.org/tour.html | 06:04 |
mhz | duh! | 06:05 |
mhz | i was looking up at the wiki :) | 06:05 |
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mhz | Yagisan: please check the url and tell me what you think | 06:21 |
mhz | (pxe wiki) | 06:21 |
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Yagisan | ogra: Check out http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe | 06:39 |
Yagisan | mhz did a nice update of my howto :) | 06:39 |
Yagisan | That looks really nice considering I sent him a .txt file | 06:39 |
ogra | cool | 06:40 |
Yagisan | ogra: I didn't cover the bios mod or hard disk boot methods to save on support issues | 06:41 |
ogra | that didnt occur yet... | 06:41 |
ogra | lest see if we get any requests for it at all | 06:41 |
Yagisan | ogra: I've done all 4 methods | 06:43 |
ogra | sure, but unless someone asks, why should we bother :) | 06:44 |
Yagisan | on a reasonably modern system the bios mod is the most convienient | 06:44 |
Yagisan | but I killed a perfectly good p2 doing one | 06:44 |
ogra | on a reasonably modern system you most likely have PXE ;) | 06:44 |
Yagisan | one could only wish .... | 06:44 |
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clandestino | Is there any way to use a Sun UltraSparc as a thin client? | 08:01 |
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Yagisan | clandestino: at the moment no | 08:26 |
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Yagisan | clandestino: but if/when ubuntu is on sparc, and if qemu supports sparc enough to set up a client | 08:27 |
Yagisan | clandestino: I'll look at adding support for it to ubuntus ltsp. | 08:27 |
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clandestino | That would be very nice of you. | 08:28 |
Yagisan | clandestino: I recently tried to add ppc client support (with either i386 or amd64 as the server) but that didn't go too | 08:31 |
Yagisan | well as qemu didn't support enough ppc | 08:31 |
Yagisan | clandestino: sadly I don't see it happening soon, but I'd add it when it is possible | 08:32 |
Yagisan | anyway I should go to bed now - it's 4:30am! | 08:32 |
Yagisan | night all | 08:33 |
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bluefrog-10 | hi Is there a command to know what encryption is used by ubuntu pls? | 09:17 |
crimsun | encryption in what sense? | 09:18 |
bluefrog-10 | used for passwords. MD5 SSHA... | 09:18 |
bluefrog-10 | the passwords we use to log in | 09:18 |
crimsun | more /etc/pam.d/common-password | 09:19 |
bluefrog-10 | oh ok ty | 09:19 |
crimsun | np | 09:22 |
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ajmitch__ | ogra: ping? | 12:00 |
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