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kkathman!tell zerotime about samba12:02
kkathmanzerotime: check the pm12:03
treefrog_not the right track.. !! ?12:03
treefrog_Oh well . 12:03
frank23zerotime: just so you know, you will only be able to read on ntfs, not write12:03
kkathmanohh sorry I misread that12:03
kkathmanlol12:03
zerotimeits not the first time under linux12:03
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zerotimetreefrog12:03
treefrog_ya12:04
zerotimedo I press on new?12:04
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treefrognew12:04
zerotimeI think this will format the partition I want to set up12:04
treefrogyup12:04
treefrogno12:04
treefrogsorry12:04
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treefrogno it wont format12:04
treefrogsets up new mount12:05
treefrogselect the path you want 12:05
treefrogselect the format.. NTFS12:05
zerotimeOh, I am really impressed12:06
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treefrogI'm not sure if I'm right but I put all mine in /media/HD1 or 12:06
treefrogor Media/Sdd212:06
zerotimefinally someone fixed the ntfs stupid problem12:06
zerotimereally nice job12:06
treefrogit works a treat12:06
zerotimethx kubuntu its just what I want now12:07
stevioHi. Anyone know if the game Atomic is included in kubuntu?12:07
treefrogAlso set permissions so your normal user can get acess to it12:07
_jaypeegood job treefrog12:07
treefrogotherwise only the admin will get to see anything.12:07
treefrogthen enable it and you are off12:07
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frank23stevio: is that the puzzle game with atoms?12:11
ku_dudehello dudes..12:11
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ku_dudeanybody here installed vmware workstation?12:12
stevioSorry frank, yes it is the puzzle game with atoms12:13
frank23stevio: you can install it with adept12:14
frank23ku_dude: I installed vmware12:14
frank23ku_dude: install     gcc-3.4   linux-kernel-headers   12:14
stevioAdept? I don't know what that is. I'm on regular ubuntu. I'm just wondering for a friend, he loves the game. He will install Kubuntu if that game is on it. I think its a kde game...12:15
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frank23stevio: adept is the package manager like synaptic12:15
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frank23stevio: it's probably called  katomic12:15
stevioYeah, I think it is.12:16
stevioI was thinking it came with the distro, but I guess not. Just as good though, thanks. 12:16
frank23stevio: it's not there by default no12:16
stevioAlright, thanks bro. 12:16
frank23ku_dude:     to run the vmware  config:   export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4   then  run the config script12:17
kkathmanHey frank, if we had installed all the compiler stuff under hoary, would that have gotten updated in an upgrade, or should I donwload all that stuff again?12:17
frank23kkathman: the packages you had before will be upgraded12:18
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scannerHi people around the world ;-)12:18
sorush20guys can't get a Mac desktop how can I do it .. 12:19
kkathmanfrank23: so there's no need to do the installs on build-essential, libglibs g++ gcc and the like then?12:19
scannerHave someone installed prelink?12:19
kkathmansorush20: thats cuz this is linux not osX12:20
frank23kkathman: umm well if you had  build-essential before, you have the breezy version now12:20
scannerI used "AUTOMATIX", installed and configured prelink but now my cpu works too much ;-(12:20
kkathmanok kewl frank23 thanks12:20
frank23scanner: I have prelink12:20
scannerfrank have you got any problem?12:20
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frank23scanner: no problems.. but I don't see a huge increase in performance either12:21
kkathmansorush20: you might take a gander at http://www.kde-look.org tho12:22
scannerAfter prelink my cpu work around the clock without stop12:22
scanner:-(12:22
scannerand the fan with it :-(12:22
frank23scanner: running prelink the first time took me about 30 minutes on a Athlon 64 3200+12:22
frank23scanner: I'd say that is normal12:23
scannerfor me just 15 min12:23
scanner;-)12:23
scannerBut I think that I uninstall it12:23
scannerHave someone a sony vaio FS laptop?12:23
frank23scanner: prelink is done running and you still have the cpu working at 100%?12:24
scanneryes :-(12:24
frank23what process is using the cpu?12:24
scannerCentrino12:24
frank23I mean what program is using the cpu?12:24
scanner:-?12:25
scannerI don't know12:25
frank23type   top in a konsole12:25
scanneruahooooooooooo12:25
scannerA lot of process are running12:26
frank23scanner: which one uses cpu%?12:26
ku_dudefrank23: you still there?12:26
frank23ku_dude: yeah12:26
scannerkded12:27
scannerkonsole12:27
ku_dudefrank23: I did all that already.. but when I try to start the workstation.. it shows loading for a while then dies..12:27
scanneretc....12:27
ku_dudealso it messes up my local pc networking environment.12:27
frank23ku_dude: the vmware configure script  worked?12:27
ku_dudefrank23: well.. not really.12:28
scannerxorg too12:28
frank23ku_dude: type  vmware  in a konsole to see the error message12:28
ku_dudecause it when I try to run it from the shell with vmware & it complains about config wasn't done properly.12:28
frank23scanner: is there a process using alot of the cpu? (more than 10%?)12:28
libbenis there any command that flushes the system ? it getting real slow after a day or two of java and playing some games. can i free som ram or what?12:28
frank23libben: logout and log back in12:29
libbenhmm12:29
libbenjava 98 % cpu =)12:29
scannerwait12:29
ku_dudefrank23: gonna re-install it now.. give me a sec.12:29
frank23libben: what is using java?12:29
libbenwell, the famous java eater azureus =)12:30
libbentorrent client12:30
frank23libben: it should not use 98%.... ;-)12:30
libbenno, but i think it because of my leeching skill earlier today... 12:30
libbenit was fine earlier12:30
libbenturned it of now12:30
libbengonna turn it on and see what top report12:31
scannerno12:31
scannerno one12:31
frank23libben: what java version are you using?12:31
scanner:-(12:31
raphinkno, no one, no cry12:31
libben1.5.0412:31
raphinkno that's not it sorry12:31
raphink:(12:31
raphinkhehe12:31
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frank23libben: ok12:32
scannerYessssssssssssssss12:32
scannerxorg12:32
scanner:-(12:32
scannerI found it12:32
scanner11,212:32
frank23scanner: found what?12:32
scannerxorg process have more than 10%12:33
scannerCPU usage12:33
duendeHelp : I wanted to re-install Windows on my first partition, but i'm afraid it's going to overwrite grub.  I'm using a non-default kernel for kubuntu, and i don't have a floppy drive.  how could i restore grub afterwards?12:33
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frank23scanner: that's probably ok...12:33
scannerWhat can I do?12:33
frank23!tell duende about restore12:33
frank23scanner: prelink shouldn't cause the cpu to be used any more than before12:34
duendefrank23: ??12:34
frank23duende: wrong word...12:34
scannerWhat can I do?12:34
zerotimehi, I am having troubles with the system and filesystem app in system settings menu, I load it, press administrator mode button, put in my administrator pass, and I cant gain access, the pass is ok, but the screen I get is exactly the same, please someone help12:34
scannerWhat's wrong in my ACPI?12:34
scanner:-(12:35
scanner:-(12:35
scanner:-(12:35
scanner:"(12:35
frank23!tell duende about grubrestore12:35
zerotimehas someone experienced the same problem?12:35
sorush20anyone here has a Mac OS feel to their desktop?12:35
frank23zerotime: that is the most annoying bug in kubuntu...  try  kdesu kcontrol12:35
scannerI'm fighting seid 2 days with my ACPI12:36
scannerI cannot controll the FUN12:36
scannerFAN12:36
scannersorry12:36
scanner;-)12:36
scannerMy english isn't perfekt12:36
frank23scanner: I don't know any thing about that. look in the forums for people with sony vaio12:36
scanner:-P12:36
scannerI have done it12:37
treefrogHi guys can I ask q about restricted formats here??12:37
scannerBut nothing is working12:37
frank23treefrog: ask away12:38
scannerOk. No fear. I'm hard ;-)12:38
treefrogI get this error when I try the last part of setting up the win32 codacks.. process.. 12:38
scannerI will solve it12:38
treefrogtreefrog@pond:~$ sudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse12:38
treefrogReading package lists... Done12:38
treefrogBuilding dependency tree... Done12:38
treefrogE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse12:38
scanner;-)12:38
Tm_T:(12:38
crimsuntreefrog: you don't have multiverse enabled12:39
crimsungstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse | 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages12:39
treefrogAhh Ok .. Adept here I come.. sorry 12:39
scannerI want buy a new TV USB RECEIVER12:39
scannerPinnacle PCTV 50e12:39
scannerDo you know if it is linuc compatible?12:40
kkathmanscanner:  I doubt it12:40
treefrogHumm.. I have 4 entries with universe enabled12:40
scannerWhy?12:40
scannerWhich I have to buy?12:40
kkathmanmy experience with Pinnacle is that they dont usually release any open source drivers12:40
scannerBut isn't enough video4linux?12:41
frank23treefrog: treefrog universe and multiverse are different12:42
treefrogthe only thing I have not enabled is the Marillat thing.12:42
treefrogeveryting else is on and good to go.. acorgin to adept anyway12:43
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kkathmanscanner: the 50e is XP only12:43
zerotimeI cannot mount an ntfs partition, bad superblock, bad fs, or other error, what am I doing wrong? I am using system settings filesystems option12:43
treefrogzerotime: you is having a hard time with that.. not nice. sorry for you.12:44
treefrog:(12:44
scannerXP only12:44
scanner????????????????12:44
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zerotimetrue, but need those partition mounted12:44
scannerHow long do you use linux?12:45
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zerotimewell, I use both systems a long time ago, np till now, cant make this work12:45
zerotimeso no one had the same problem?12:46
scannerDo you know how can I controll the fan of my sony?12:47
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ku_dudefrank23: hey frank.. can you help me a bit?12:48
frank23ku_dude: with what?12:49
kevmanzerotime, are you sure you are specifying ntfs and not say, vfat?12:49
ku_dudefrank23: with vmware-config.12:49
gdarelVideo player question. I installed Breezy and I cannot for the life of me figure out where I put the Codecs to play videos anyone have suggestions?12:49
frank23ku_dude: its not working?12:49
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ku_dudeI am re-installing it.. I just wanted to know if I should enabled the NAT thingis..12:50
frank23!tell gdarel about w32codecs12:50
gdarelI Have the Codecs just dont know where to put them12:50
frank23ku_dude: yeah I enabled NAT between guest and host. I always use it12:50
ku_dudefrank23: I have a static IP address on my local machine. 12:50
SillyConeHi, I'm trying to automount an ext3 hard drive, I added it to fstab, how can I set the permissions so that my user account is allowed to write to the drive?12:51
ku_dudei installed it like atleast 3 times already..12:51
scannerWhy my firefox show me the flash videos with a audio delay????12:51
scanner:-(12:51
ku_dudeanyways le'me install it now and tell you if i get any errors.. gonna accept all the default answers.12:51
SillyConeI'm mounting it into a new directory that is in /12:51
frank23ku_dude: ok12:52
scannerNo one want me help???12:52
scanner;"(12:52
frank23scanner: only people with sony vaios are likely to be able to help12:53
ku_dudefrank23: Do you want to be able to use host-only networking in your virtual machines? [yes] ... what do I say?12:53
scanner;"(12:53
frank23scanner: I don't know about the audio delays12:53
kkathmanscanner: whats the issue?12:54
frank23ku_dude: yes should work12:54
scannerI installed Firefox 12:54
kkathmanok12:54
scannerand then the flash plugin12:54
kkathmanok12:54
scannerfrom the original 12:54
scannermacromedia12:54
scannerBut12:54
kkathmanok12:54
scannerI become just an audio delay12:55
frank23scanner: you can install flash with adept12:55
kkathmanI dont understand what "audio delay" means for you12:55
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scannerWhich package exactly mean you?12:56
frank23!info flashplayer-mozilla12:56
ubotuflashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB12:56
scannerThe video begin, but the audio just few seconds later12:56
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scannerOk, thx frank12:57
ku_dudeanybody here does Linux Audio editing?12:57
scannerI will try now12:57
frank23ku_dude: did vmare work?12:57
kkathmanku_dude: no way...not in linux :)12:57
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ku_dudefrank23: mmm..might be a problem.12:58
ku_dudekkathman: Audacity isn't bad man..give it a try.12:58
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frank23ku_dude: don't install network-manager, it has a copnflict with vmware12:58
ku_dudefrank23: i get this error on the last steps: Bridged networking on /dev/vmnet0                                  failed12:58
ku_dudefrank23: Starting VMware services:12:58
kkathmanku_dude: Ahm... its way low end for me12:59
treefrogzerotime: you stil there?12:59
kkathmanbut its not too bad you're right12:59
ku_dudefrank23: network-manager.. mppp..I think I did.. I will check it on Adept.. (brb)12:59
ku_dudekkathman: does what I need dude..01:00
ku_dudekalenedrael: beets paying money for windows audio editing. and i'm not a mac' guy either.01:00
kkathmanku_dude: perfect!! Thats a great thing!01:01
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scanner;-(01:03
ku_dudefrank23: doest network-manager..affects the installation or only the services?01:03
scannerIt's not better ;-((((01:03
ku_dudefrank23: I can't even load my package managers..01:04
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ku_dudeneither konquerer.01:04
frank23ku_dude: do you have network-manager installed?01:04
asranielhi, i have some files called dsdt for my laptop that i just found in a tutorial. my question is, to get full acpi support for my laptop, do i have to recompile the kernel?01:05
ku_dudefrank23: frank.. none of my package managers are loaded..01:05
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ku_dudehow do you use apt-get to check if a package is installed? --query?01:05
Spudchathi everyone...has anyone had any success networkin the lexmark x1150 printer?01:05
frank23ku_dude: I had a horrible problem with it. I had to boot in safe mode to remove network-manager01:05
ku_dudeoh yeah!.01:06
frank23ku_dude: using apt-get remove network-manager01:06
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treefrogCan someone confirm what my multivers repo should be. 01:06
robinhello all, some here earliar pointed me int the right direction to get w32codecs and mplayer but i forgot where they where, wsa it restrited01:06
treefrogeb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse01:06
treefrogdeb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezymain restricted universe multiverse01:06
ku_dudeit says it isn't installed.01:06
ku_dudebut some network conflict is on my system though.01:07
ku_dudeI can talk to you through konquer.. but can't browse the web at all.01:07
raphinktalk through konqui?01:07
raphinkhow would you do that?01:07
ku_dudeplus the "Bridged networking on /dev/vmnet0" service failed..01:07
ku_dudesomething is scrude up with my system.01:08
frank23ku_dude: ok...  I don't really know... 01:08
ku_dudefrank23: yeah.. me either. :)01:08
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ku_dudesome networking thing though...guess I have to reboot and uninstall vmware then check what networking tool is messing with it.01:09
zerotimehowto install win32codecs01:09
zerotime?01:09
raphinkzerotime: I would use Automatix01:09
raphinkfor that01:09
frank23ku_dude: I guess.. my problem was with network-manager but some others tools could have similar problems I guess01:10
frank23!w32codecs01:10
ubotuw32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)01:10
frank23zerotime: did you download the .deb ?01:10
raphink!automatix01:10
ubotuNot a clue, raphink01:10
raphinkbad bot :p01:10
zerotimeI am trying to to a simple apt-get install win32codecs01:10
zerotimeand apt-cache search win32codecs01:11
zerotimenothing01:11
raphinkyep01:11
frank23zerotime: you cannot get w32codecs on the ubuntu repos01:11
raphinkubuntu is free and open-source01:11
zerotimewhere can I get them?01:11
raphinkwin32codecs are non free stuff01:11
raphinkzerotime: 01:11
raphink!w32codecs01:11
ubotuw32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)01:11
frank23zerotime: on that link01:11
raphinkthat was aimed to you01:11
raphinkzerotime: or using Automatix : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656301:12
raphinkor easy ubuntu01:12
ku_dudefrank23: what is ksmserver?01:12
treefrogzerotime: that bug you had with the partition. you still got it?01:12
frank23ku_dude: I don't know01:13
ku_dudefrank23: franks.. thanks anyways for your help, gonna reboot and try some other stuff.. thanks again.. later.01:14
treefrogfrank32: my repo setting for multiverse.. what should it be??01:14
frank23ku_dude: later01:14
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frank23treefrog: what you pasted before I think was rigth01:15
treefrogna get and eror saying it 01:15
treefrogjust a sec01:15
frank23treefrog: you're canadian, right?01:15
treefrogeb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse01:15
treefrogdeb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezymain restricted universe multiverse01:15
treefrogna01:15
treefrogoops01:15
treefrogFailed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezymain/restricted/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.167 80] 01:16
treefrogno.. ahh01:16
frank23treefrog: add a space 01:16
treefrogIc 01:16
Tm_T=)01:16
treefrogIreland would be ie right?? my other repos point at gb!! 01:16
treefroga space where01:17
frank23 breezymain 01:17
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frank23treefrog: I don't know if there are ie mirrors01:17
treefrogheanet.ie is for non breezy at least01:18
treefroglovely. thanks frank3201:21
frank23treefrog: the space was the problem?  the deb-src  repos are mostly useless anyways01:22
treefrogya and teh CA wa scausing a prob too.. I dont kow why but changed to GB and off it went01:23
frank23treefrog: ca  should have worked as well... I use ca no problem01:23
`Nomad!emilia01:24
ubotu`Nomad: What?01:24
`Nomad!pinball01:24
ubotu`Nomad: I don't know, could you explain it?01:24
treefrogFrank32 ! I dont know! I must check out heanet.ie.. Kubuntu should select the server based on my location setting at install time Right01:25
frank23treefrog: yeah01:26
treefrogOk I'm out of here thanks for all the help guys. NN from green Ireland01:27
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libbenwhat can i type to force the box to shutdown and power of after say 20 mins?01:33
libbenhalt -n 20 ? or something?01:34
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Blissexlibben: look at 'man shutdown'.01:36
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libbensudo shutdown -p -t 1200 01:39
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libbenshould work01:39
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Blissexlibben: looks good.01:40
Blissexlibben: error, looks wrong.01:41
libbenyeah, just tried01:41
libbenbut i dont understand why its getting wrong.. im trying diffrent ways,01:41
Blissexlibben: sudo shutdown -h -H 2001:41
Blissexlibben: sudo shutdown -h -H 20 "power off..."01:41
libbenwhy h and H01:42
libbenisnt it good with just -H ?01:42
Blissexlibben: '-h' to halt, '-H' for poweroff on halt, '20' for 20 minutes and the rest it is the shutdown message.01:42
libben'20' is gonna be secs =)01:42
Blissexlibben: '-h' is the action to perform, '-H' is the flavour of halting to do.01:42
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Blissexlibben: actually it should be '+20'01:43
Blissextypo.01:43
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wu-hsinhello, anyone awake and not tired of newbie problems?01:44
wu-hsin;)01:44
BlissexThe  time  argument can have different formats.  First, it can be an absolute time in the format hh:mm, in which hh is the hour01:44
Blissex       (1 or 2 digits) and mm is the minute of the hour (in two digits).  Second, it can be in the format +m, in which m is the number01:44
Blissex       of minutes to wait.  The word now is an alias for +0.01:44
wu-hsinhave trouble partitioning, can't get beyond it trying to install kubuntu 5.1001:44
Blissexwu-hsin: just ask.01:45
wu-hsinthanks, blissex01:45
Blissexwu-hsin: consider reading these suggestions on how to ask questions: http://tinyurl.com/bz8v401:45
SillyConecan somebody help me configuring a second language layout under KDE? ...I've already configured the language itself, but I cant switch between the layouts using hotkeys01:46
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SillyConeThe default trigger is Alt+Ctrl+K, but when I change from English to Russian, "K" character does not exist on the keyboard anymore, so I cant switch back01:46
SillyConeand I cant set it to Alt+Shift for some reason..01:47
wu-hsinblissex, i find it hard trying to locate an answer for this type of problem01:48
wu-hsinso i'll just shoot01:48
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wu-hsinwhen trying to write partitions during kubuntu install, i get the error message "Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /yadayada - Device or resource busy."01:48
BlissexSillyCone: thats just modifiers, dont do it.01:48
Blissexwu-hsin: then reboot, and restart installation without reparitioning, the partitions will be alreayd setup01:49
SillyConeBlissex, what shoul I do?01:49
SillyConeshould*01:49
wu-hsinblissex i tried that once, maybe i should try it again01:49
BlissexSillyCone: just do what everybody does: put the keyboard switching applent in the panel.01:50
BlissexSillyCone: and use the mouse to click on it and switch layouts.01:50
Blissexwu-hsin: looks like you should.01:50
SillyConeI switch between layouts too often, I need to switch from the keyboard01:51
wu-hsinblissex have i understood correctly that i should have at least one root partition with boot flag and preferrably a swap partition on top of that? also i didn't do anything to my Xp, basically just booted the kubuntu CD and went on trying to partition from there01:51
Blissexwu-hsin: yes, but you need to have empty space on the disk.01:53
BlissexSillyCone: switching from the keyboard is a bit of a problem...01:53
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BlissexSillyCone: ask in #KDE, I think they know another way to do it.01:53
SillyConeBlissex, I figured that out already :)01:53
SillyConeBlissex, thanks, I will01:53
wu-hsini guess deleting existing partitions (so as to see the giant letters "FREE" on the screen) qualifies as empty space?01:54
asranieli have a problem. after installing java, the java cimmand launches gij, how can i change that?01:55
Blissexwu-hsin: yes it does, it may be you will regret it later :-).01:57
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wu-hsinblissex no worries about that one. all my precious documents are on cd's and i'm ever so happy now that i'm finally without XP, no matter if it means existing without any hard disk mounted OS for some time :)02:00
wu-hsinmicrosoft's absolute joke of a security update last week was the last drop...02:00
wu-hsinwell, i'm off to bed. i'll figure this partitioning stuff out tomorrow after a refreshing coma. thanks for the help!02:01
wu-hsinbye ->02:02
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jlodenMy sound worked under Hoary, but not under breezy, anyone have a moment to help troubleshoot? 02:08
crimsuncat /proc/asound/cards02:08
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jlodenICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981B02:09
kkathmanEvening Blissex :)02:10
aldenwlinnhello ppl02:10
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=== Blissex hides behind the curtain :-)
kkathmanlol02:11
aldenwlinnrealy02:11
kkathmanpay no attention to the man behind the curtain02:11
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strike4ceCan I reverse the update of KDE 3.5 beta?02:11
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kkathmanstrike4ce: can you...yes....is it easy....not even02:12
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strike4cekkathman: how?02:12
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crimsunjloden: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:13
kkathmanstrike4ce: I heard someone explain it yesterday and didnt understand all the steps, so I'd hesitate to say anything02:13
jlodenok02:13
kkathmanstrike4ce: I know it involves removing a lot of things, rebooting, reinstalling kubuntu...but there are some other things02:13
kkathmanIn essence I think yer stuck until the RC comes out02:14
jlodenhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d339602:14
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jbasiliothis new beta sucks .. terribly.  i don't know why they even bothered posting it it's so bad.  (at least for me)  such is the price of bleeding edge!02:16
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jbasilioi'm trying to downgrade now using apt preferences ... 02:16
endohow can i change my resolution settings to 1280x1024?02:16
crimsunjloden: in a Konsole, amixer sset 'Headphone Jack Sense' off02:17
jlodendone02:17
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endohow can i change my resolution?02:17
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jlodenendo: is it available as a choice if you right click on your Desktop and go to "Configure Desktop" - > Display -> Screen Size ? 02:18
endoi did02:18
endowont let me choose anything larger02:18
jlodenis the resolution you want actually available there in the drop-down list? 02:18
endono02:19
endobut i know i have it02:19
endoit worked with xandros02:19
jlodenok, then that means that X is not configured to provide any higher resolutions, either because your monitor and/or video card are unable to go higher, or because X isn't configured properly for it 02:19
endoi beleive x isnt configured properly02:19
jlodenif you're sure it works on 1280x1024, you'll likely need to edit xorg.conf 02:20
endoi am positive02:20
endoanyone can walk me through that?02:20
jlodenif you go to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl and paste your xorg.conf contents in there I can take a look 02:20
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jlodencrimsun: still no sound, anything other output I can provide that will help you troubleshoot?02:21
orangeyhey all!02:21
orangeyare there openoffice.org2 packs in the reps yet?02:21
crimsunjloden: hmm, so you dist-upgraded from Hoary?|02:23
crimsun-|02:23
jlodencrimsun: no, fresh install 02:24
jlodenI tried dist-upgrade, but I ran out of space on / because I partitioned like a moron a while back 02:24
jlodenendo: did you get the xorg.conf pasted?02:25
crimsunjloden: try muting External Amplifier02:25
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jlodencrimsun: dont think that worked, but is there a way to make sure I muted it properly? 02:27
crimsunamixer sget 'External Amplifier'02:27
jlodenCapabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined; Playback channels: Mono; Mono: Playback [off] 02:28
jlodenthat look right? 02:28
crimsunyea02:29
crimsunh02:29
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Diablo_D3https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/kdegraphics/+bug/343702:33
Tm_Tok, anyone who's using automatix, stop it02:34
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Tm_TDiablo_D3: don't wonder, it's tool to install stuff to ubuntu02:35
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crimsunjloden: does aplay produce sound?02:35
Balooohi 02:35
Tm_Twell, but it can broke your system02:35
Diablo_D3Tm_T: ahh02:35
Tm_TDiablo_D3: so stay away from it02:35
Diablo_D3dont worry02:35
endosorry wife needed me02:35
Diablo_D3I dont install ubuntu02:35
Balooocan  anyone  tell   me  if  kstars  is  included on the  live  dvd   ?02:35
endoill do it now02:35
Diablo_D3I buy new harddrives, and rsync my root to them02:36
Tm_TDiablo_D3: does all istall with --force-yes switch02:36
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jlodencrimsun: no, nothin 02:36
endojloden02:36
toranhey guys, how can I get GTK themes on my GTK apps in Kubuntu (I'm using fluxbox as my window manager, actually)02:36
endoim doing that now02:36
Tm_Tcan't imagine how stupid must be that fellow who did that "program"02:36
endosearching for the file02:36
crimsunjloden: you'll need to experiment with line sense being ON then02:37
Tm_Ttoran: apt-cache search gtk | grep theme02:37
Tm_Tor engine02:37
jlodencrimsun: what's the command to turn it on? 02:37
crimsunjloden: you can use any mixer to turn it on02:37
toranTm_T: those are just different themes I can install... I use gtk-chtheme to choose it, but the theme doesn't get applied until I start that app02:38
crimsunjloden: ICH4 apparently has a lingering issue with Line and Headphone Jack Sense(s)02:38
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Tm_Ttoran: well, that's how it works02:38
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toranTm_T: well, that sucks... I don't wanna start an app every time I log in just to make all my GTK apps look right ><02:38
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Tm_Ttoran: it doesn't save your settings?02:39
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endojloden: pasted it as Levi02:39
toranapparently not02:39
Tm_Ttoran: I do those changes once02:39
Tm_Thmm02:39
jlodencrimsun: no luck with either one on or off or both on/both off02:39
toranoh, wait, maybe it is working02:40
torannvm ><02:40
Tm_Ttoran: :)02:40
toransorry to bother you02:40
Tm_Tnp02:40
endoso if you can tell me whats up that would be great02:40
toranI had my kde control center set to use my KDE theme in GKT02:40
toran*GTK02:40
toranI turned that off and it's working02:40
Tm_T:p02:40
jlodenendo: that xorg.conf shows all 1280x1024 resolution settings...theoretically your display should be at 1280x1024 unless there was an error 02:40
endo dont think there was02:40
crimsunjloden: now add External Amplifier into the permutation02:40
endoi dont know the deal02:40
endobb in 1 hr02:41
endogotta get dinner02:41
Balooocan  anyone  tell   me  if  kstars  is  included on the  live  dvd  for   PPC   ?02:41
toranI have one other question.. how can I get my custom cursor themes to work in fluxbox? they work when I'm in KDE, but not when I'm not :(02:41
jlodendamn, this sucks...I've not had a problem with sound in a long time, and now I'm totally soundless 02:42
Tm_Tendo: small advice: cat /var/log/xorg.0.log | grep EE02:42
Tm_TBalooo: no with that many spaces02:42
Tm_Tjloden: what's the problem02:42
whitefungianyone running the unreal tournament server on ubuntu?02:43
Balooook  thx  Tm_T02:43
Tm_TBalooo: that said, I don't know but you have too many spaces between words imo02:43
jlodendunno, on Hoary I had no problems with sound, but Breezy does not like my sound card 02:43
Tm_T;)02:43
Tm_Tjloden: what does alsamixer say02:44
jlodenalsamixer says my sound is on 02:44
jlodenand I posted amixer output into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d3396 for crimsun earlier 02:44
crimsunjloden: it's a mixer issue02:44
crimsunI have the same ac97 codec but a different base dsp, and mine works with headphone and line jack sense muted02:45
BaloooTm_T  just  a  safety  margin  thx  anyway  02:45
crimsunexternal amplifier doesn't matter02:45
jlodenI've tried dicking with the mixer stuff but can't find a combo that will get a peep out of this thing so far02:45
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Tm_TBalooo: safety margin?02:45
Tm_TBalooo: at least it's annoying :(02:45
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jlodengah....sound works now 02:47
jlodenI had to hit the mute button on the thinkpad keypad on and off a couple times, then it just started working 02:47
Tm_T:)02:47
Tm_Tjloden: ok, you never said it's laptop02:47
Balooosorry  for  that Tm_T02:47
jlodenwell, thanks for the troubleshooting help crimsun and Tm-T :)02:47
Tm_Tjloden: yes, it's important importation02:47
Tm_Tinfo02:48
Tm_Tanyway02:48
jlodensorry, should have mentioned, my faul t02:48
Tm_Tnp :)02:48
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endojloden im back03:09
endosorry for the inconvinience03:10
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endoanyone here?03:12
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endo?03:19
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endoanyone around?03:37
laszlokim here03:41
laszloki dont know where everyone else went03:41
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aeon17xI'm wondering, is there any way to completely uninstall kubuntu? I installed it after ubuntu, but for some reason I messed it up along the way, so I can no longer log into it properly. Any way to do it beyond a full reinstall?03:45
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soulslayer8703Hello 03:46
soulslayer8703I need some help here03:46
soulslayer8703somebody know how to configure a wifi in kubuntu03:46
soulslayer8703im stupid for linux03:47
soulslayer8703new guy03:47
soulslayer8703i even dont know how to mount 03:47
soulslayer8703somebody????03:47
soulslayer8703hi...03:47
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_jaypeeanyone have deb file for amarok 1.3.3?03:53
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jayparadisecan i change the source for the default packages like grub and lilo from the cdrom to a site online?03:56
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DaSkreechIf I can update to KDE 3.5 once it's out on the breezy servers I should be able to update to OO.0 2.0 Final Right?03:59
jayparadiseheh just had to comment out the cdrom source04:01
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poimenhi04:12
poimenI need  help installing th eivtv module on breezy04:12
poimenivtv**04:12
poimenI upgraded my kernel from 386 to 68604:13
poimenthen I installed the linux-headers-68604:13
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endoi need help with my 1280x800 display04:15
endocan someone lend a hand04:15
poimenand when I do make for the module I get a log error her eis the output http://pastebin.com/40050304:15
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laszlokendo: whats your problem04:22
endoi dont have the option to set my display to 1280x80004:23
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laszlokwas it not there in the inital install?04:25
poimenI really need help with ivtv I just erased my windows partition and that is the only thing I need getting working so i have all my hardware working in this funtinal PC 04:25
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poimen:)04:32
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endowhere is synaptic package manager04:33
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laszlokendo: i see it as an option in the xorg config04:36
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endoi did that04:38
endobut its not working04:39
pospeselrquick newbie question04:39
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pospeselrhow do I execute a command on startup?04:39
pospeselrspecifically synergy --config synergy.conf04:39
pospeselrsynergys i mean04:39
endowhat bios type are we running04:41
pospeselrquick newb question, anyone know how to go about executing a command at startup?04:43
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ku_dudefrank23: hey frank you there?04:47
frank23yeha04:49
ku_dudeabout vmware..04:51
ku_dudeso I installed it ok.04:51
frank23ok04:51
ku_dudeit runs only if I disable networking.04:51
ku_dudeso I am creatin the virtual machines. then maybe try enable networking later on..04:51
frank23ok04:51
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ku_dudeonly one question though.. when you install windows XP for example in a virtual machine should the license key work as if you had installed it on a real system?04:52
frank23ku_dude: did you add networking software or special configuration to cause vmware not working?04:52
ku_dudefrank23: I don't know..but I will illiminate stuff until i solve the problem.. I noticed bind was installed, so I removed that.04:53
ku_dudenot sure what else could be causing the problem.04:53
frank23ku_dude: ummm....  I think so04:53
ku_dudeanyways I suspend the virtual machine, I will try to finish XP installation tomorrow.04:53
endohow do i go about install kde .deb ?04:53
ku_dudei'm going home now to my bed.. take care. and thanks again for your help.04:53
ku_dudefrank23: will you be online tomorrow?04:54
ku_dudefrank23: on #kubuntu ie.04:54
frank23ku_dude: probably04:54
ku_dudeok cya then.. my body is bluddy tired.04:54
frank23ok04:54
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frank23endo what do you want to do exactly?04:55
endoto install kde 3.504:56
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endoand to set my resolution right04:57
endocan you help04:57
endo?04:57
frank23!kde3.504:57
ubotuit has been said that kde3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6780004:57
frank23endo there are still severe bugs with kde3.5 so I don't suggest it04:57
frank23!fixres04:58
ubotufixres is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:58
Tm_Tnooooo04:58
Tm_Tfrank23: that's old information what ubotu gices04:58
Tm_Tgives04:58
frank23that's true...04:58
Tm_Thttp://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta2.php04:58
Tm_T;)04:58
frank23ubotu kde3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta2.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6780004:59
ubotu...but kde3.5 is already something else...04:59
frank23ubotu forget kde3.504:59
ubotufrank23: i forgot kde3.504:59
frank23ubotu kde3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is it has been said that kde3.5 is at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta2.php for opinions see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6780004:59
frank23!kde3.505:00
ubotufrank23: What?05:00
frank23crap I don't know how to make ubotu work05:00
jsubl2!tell frank23 about ubotu05:00
Tm_Thaha05:00
Tm_Tteach him!05:00
Tm_T+t05:00
jsubl2hehe05:00
endodood05:01
frank23thanks05:01
endoi dont get a tutorial there05:01
frank23endo where?05:03
endoon any of those links05:03
endoi just want to know how to get this going05:03
endoim a total newb05:03
frank23endo what do you want to know exactly? (and if you're a total newbie, don't install kde3.505:04
frank23for now I mean05:04
endohehe05:05
endookk i wont05:06
endoim a total newb05:06
endomy other issue is getting my 1280x800 resolution to work05:06
endoi modified the xorg.conf05:06
endobut no luck05:06
frank23what resolutions do you have available in configure desktop?05:07
endo1024x76805:07
frank23http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:07
frank23did you look at this?05:08
endoyes05:08
endoi downloaded the program it said to05:08
endobut i cant get that to work05:08
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frank23endo do you have one of those intel chipsets?05:09
kkathmanevening again all :)05:09
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endoyes05:12
endoi have the intel05:13
endochipset05:13
MPCcan someone help me with a USB memory drive, which works with Ubuntu but is no long recognized by XP?05:13
frank23did   sudo 855resolution -l  give you alist of resolutions?05:13
endonope05:14
endoi do that in my main right05:14
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MPCI tried un-mounting ... and re-formatting via mkfs etc.; but, Win XP still can no longer "see" the usb memory stick05:14
frank23endo   you write that in a konsole05:15
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endoi did05:15
frank23MPC: I don't know anything about that05:15
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frank23endo: what did it say?05:16
MPCthanks, Frank2305:16
endosudo 855resolution -l05:16
endosudo: 855resolution: command not found05:16
MPCbtw, I have the same video problem with Ubuntu not recognizing the Centrino video chip set05:16
MPCI have no option to set my video to 1280x800, my notebook's native resolution05:17
frank23endo did apt-get install 855resolution work without error?05:17
endonope05:18
endosays couldnt find package05:18
frank23endo why didn't you say that from the start?    you need to enable universe. go in adept:  file->manage repositories05:19
endohu05:20
endofrom the beginning05:20
endofrom the kde desktop?05:21
frank23endo: K->system->Package manager(adept)05:21
endook05:22
endoi got it05:22
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endofull upgrade05:23
frank23did you go to manage repositories?05:23
endoyes05:23
frank23ok05:24
frank23fetch updates, then do a search for 855resolution05:25
endook05:26
endowill do05:26
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endoi dont see it05:28
frank23did you enable the lines with universe?05:29
kkathmanI was a little surprised there were no updates today through Adept :)05:29
endo?05:30
frank23endo why didn't you say that from the start?    you need to enable universe. go in adept:  file->manage repositories05:30
frank23sorry I didn't mean to be rude... I just pasted something from before05:31
endoi now05:31
endoi KNOW05:31
endoi dont understand what your saying05:31
endothe lines with universe int he repository are comments05:31
frank23yes but right click them to enable them05:32
MPCFrank23:  fyi: I was able to sudo apt-get install 855resolution ... and sudo 855resolution -l ... listed video modes, including 7e  1280x80005:32
frank23MPC: so it should work... 05:32
endoi got em05:32
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kkathmanhey thoreauputic  :)05:33
endonow i am fetching updates05:33
MPCnow what? ... i.e. System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution .... still only lists ONE choice: 1024x76805:34
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frank23MPC: are the horizfreq and vertrefresh numbers good in xorg.conf?05:34
endofrank thanks man05:34
endosays its installed05:34
MPCFrank23:  let me check ...05:34
satafterhhello all, is there a desktop theme manager in kubuntu05:35
endowhat should i do now05:35
MPCfrank23:  are you familiar with the path to xorg.conf?05:35
kkathmansatafterh: yes, its part of the system settings05:35
frank23 /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:35
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MPCthanks05:35
thoreauputickkathman: hi - sorry I'm lagged at the moment (big download)05:36
kkathmanno prob thoreauputic :)05:36
frank23endo  search for 855 in quick filter05:36
endoi did that05:36
endoim golden05:36
endoi did05:36
endosudo 855.... -l05:36
frank23ok05:36
endonow i need to go from here05:36
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frank23can you get the list of video modes?05:36
endoyes05:36
endowhat should i type now05:37
frank23is yours there?05:37
endonope05:37
endothey got 1280x102405:37
endothey got 1280x80105:38
endoi guess that is close enuff05:38
endowhat should i do now05:38
frank23endo close enough will not work ;-)05:38
frank23follow the instructions in the webpage  but use   kdesu kate /etc/default/855resolution to open the file05:39
frank23one line:  kdesu kate /etc/default/855resolution05:39
ice_1963how do i get cdrdao for k3b?05:39
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frank23ice_1963: in adept: enable universe and install it05:40
MPCfrank23:  xorg.conf looks "good"  i.e. Section "Screen"  makes lots of references to 1280x80005:40
ice_1963can ido it in /etc/apt/sources.list05:41
endokate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.05:41
MPCis logoff & re-start X required?05:41
frank23endo    did you try sudo kate?  that doesn't work05:41
frank23MPC: I guess, I really don't know05:42
endosAME error05:42
MPCover & out ... <G>05:42
frank23endo:   open ksysguard (system menu)05:42
ice_1963good job on kubuntu05:42
kkathmanfrank23: people can use kynaptic also to install :)05:42
frank23endo:  find  kate and kill it05:42
frank23kkathman: kynaptic is not there by default now05:42
kkathmanfrank23: Uhmm.. I beg to differ05:42
kkathmanit was installed on my system when I upgraded05:43
kkathmanI didnt have it before05:43
ice_1963can i install synaptic in kubuntu?05:43
endoinsufficient permissions to kill05:43
frank23kkathman: well I don't have kynaptic yet I have kubuntu-dektop05:43
kkathmanhmmm did you install kubuntu or ubuntu originally?05:44
frank23endo   take note of the process id number  and do sudo kill 253605:44
frank23endo  whatever that number is...05:44
kkathmanlol05:44
frank23ice_1963: yes you can05:44
frank23kkathman: I think I uninstalled kynaptic after I upgraded to breezy05:45
kkathman Ahh ok05:45
kkathmanthat makes sense :)05:45
endodood i gotta run05:45
endopeace05:45
frank23endo ok later05:45
kkathmanI havent gotten the hang of Adept yet...I guess I dont trust it :)05:45
kkathmanIm an apt-get kinda guy :)05:45
frank23kkathman: yeah I still like synaptic better05:45
frank23oh05:46
frank23;-)05:46
kkathmanold habits die hard I suppose05:46
frank23I never picked up old habits05:46
frank23hoary was the first time I used any debian05:46
kkathmanwarty was my first time05:48
kkathmanI used Red Hat, Mandrake (a little), and Libranet before05:48
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frank23I used red hat 9 for a while like 2 years ago05:48
kkathmanyah thats what I used too05:49
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kkathmanit was so huge and bloated05:49
frank23and red hat 7 when that was new but ubuntu made me convert to linux05:49
kkathmanI havent tried anything else since I installed ubuntu05:49
kkathmanI heard I should have tried Knoppix 05:50
frank23kkathman: I tried linspire and opensuse just to see05:50
kkathmanwhat did you think of linspire?05:50
kkathmanI tried SuSE 4 I think a long time ago05:50
kkathmanor was it 5?  1998 or 1999 or so05:51
kkathmanI had a devil of a time configuring it back then...wouldnt run on a Dell05:51
frank23its ok...  It's probably the only distribution that can really say that you never need the console. so for some people it might be good. everything runs as root by default though :(05:51
kkathmanlinspire?05:51
kkathmanwow05:51
frank23yeah linspire05:51
kkathmaninteresting05:52
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kkathmanI personally dont see how people even get by on Linux without the console, and I think its a mistake not learning it05:52
frank23kkathman: linpire is basically debian but you need to pay to get access to the linpire repos05:52
kkathmanEvery certification program stresses console control05:53
kkathmanahhh that suxors05:53
frank23kkathman: console will scare away lots of simple desktop users05:53
kkathmanyah I know, so we train a bunch of dummy linux users now that we have dummy windows users :)05:53
frank23kkathman: the worst is that the dummy linspire users will be as vulnerable to every kind of crap as windows users since they run as root by default05:54
kkathmanexactly!!  People dont realize that an uneducated computer user is a major liability05:55
kkathmanI have a client that paid me $150 to drive over to her home and plug in her printer to the computer05:55
frank23If linspire was suddenly the target of malware, they would have no choice but to stop the default installs as root05:56
kkathmanwhats good about that, is that was the right thing for her to do!05:56
frank23yeah05:56
Tm_Thmm05:57
Tm_Tdefault installs as root?05:57
frank23yep05:57
Tm_Tyou mean no other users, just root?05:57
frank23Tm_T: by default yes... you get the option to setup users during install though05:57
Tm_Tok05:58
kkathmanlol05:58
kkathmanI like the way ubuntu does it05:58
Tm_Tthat's a big, huge ugly flaw05:58
kkathmandisable the root..good idea for most people actually05:58
Tm_Tkkathman: yup05:58
frank23 /root  gets filled with all the .files from kde etc05:58
Tm_Tkkathman: and it's soooo easy to enable if you wan't it05:58
kkathmanright05:59
kkathmanbut most shouldnt05:59
kkathmaneven I dont05:59
kkathmanwell...I take that back05:59
kkathmanI enabled it05:59
kkathmanbut dont use it05:59
kkathmanonly if I am going to be doing alot of admin stuff05:59
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frank23kkathman: how do you enable/disable root anyways?06:00
kkathmanuhmm..prolly not a good thing to put here in the open channel06:01
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frank23kkathman: is it just give a password, then give a random password you forget immediately to disable?06:01
Hobbseeafternoon all06:02
Hobbseeoh good!  the howto worked for getting a mouse theme for firefox and thuderbird, rather than the standard black one :D06:02
kkathmanfrank23: check your pm06:03
Hobbseehi kkathman :)06:03
kkathmangood evening Hobbsee!! How are you tonight :)06:03
Hobbseekkathman: happy to not have black cursors while in firefox :D06:04
frank23Hobbsee: hmm... I still have those black cursors06:05
kkathmangreat!!!06:05
Hobbseefrank23: howto on ubuntuforums.org06:05
kkathmanwhat black cursors...and where?06:05
Hobbseekubuntu section06:05
frank23ok06:05
Hobbseekkathman: what colour are your cursors normally?06:05
kkathmanHobbsee: Shhhh...we dont wanna promote that06:05
kkathmanin firefox?06:05
kkathmanlemme check06:05
Hobbseeboth firefox and out of it06:05
Hobbseewhy dont we want to promote it, and which dont we want to promote?06:05
kkathmanits a regular black line like most things06:06
Hobbseeah ok06:06
Hobbseewell for those of us who select that we want a white, or some other colour cursor, in firefox it still shows as black06:06
Hobbseeand now there is a howto that fixes that :D06:06
kkathmanHobbsee: its probably not a good idea to tell alot of people how to enable root :)06:07
kkathmanOHhhh ok06:07
Hobbseekkathman: where did i do that???06:07
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Hobbseei've said nothing at all about root for a very long time...06:07
kkathmanohhh I misread :)06:09
kkathmanmy bad06:10
kkathmanhehe06:10
regeya_I shall have to check my logs.  anyone else experiencing random freezes?  as in something that is cataclysmic enough that you cant kill xorg with ctrl-alt-esc?06:10
Hobbseekkathman: thought you might have - i use the factoid for root lol...not sure why anyone would bother though06:10
Hobbseeregeya_: with what  in particular?06:10
frank23regeya_ no freezes like that here06:11
kkathmanwell yah06:11
kkathmanI need new games...the ones that come with KDE and Gnome arent very good :(06:12
regeya_Hobbsee: I realize 'random freezes' is a bit vague but 'random' is a key word06:12
kkathmanMahJohng is ok06:12
Tm_Tkkathman: jake2 ;)06:12
kkathmanthats a game?06:12
Tm_Tyes06:13
kkathmanwhat kind?06:13
Tm_Tbut...06:13
Hobbseeregeya_: none here, but that doesnt mean anything lol06:13
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Tm_Tit's java port of quake 206:13
Hobbseekkathman: planetpenguin racer?06:13
kkathmanohhh kewl :)06:13
Tm_TI find it soooooo good06:13
frank23kkathman: there is a DDR clone you can play with a keyboard called pydance06:13
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kkathmannice :)06:13
kkathmanplanetpenguin?? hehe06:13
frank23kkathman: you download songs "elsewhere"06:13
kkathmanhehe06:14
Hobbseekkathman: yeah, particularly the desperation level06:14
Tm_Tkkathman: other good games: freeciv206:14
Hobbseefriend of mine on windows loves playing tuxracer - i didnt have breezy on the computer at the time06:14
kkathmanI have civ2 on my Winbox...and Rome-TotalWar....very good06:14
kkathmanTm_T: I wonder if I have java working06:15
kkathmanit was on my hoary so I wonder if it got upgraded06:15
Hobbseekkathman: java -version06:15
kkathman1.4.206:15
Hobbseehmmm...should try freciv06:15
Hobbseeit's upto 1.5 now06:16
Hobbsee!javadeb06:16
ubotu[javadeb]  for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)06:16
kkathmanwonder what happens to my 1.4.2 if I install 1.5?06:16
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frank23kkathman: it stays there I think  you use  sudo update-alternatives --config java  to choose   the one you use06:17
kkathmanahh ok06:18
kkathmani went through some hellacious procedure to install java SDK before under hoary06:18
kkathmandoes freeciv2 use java or not?06:19
Hobbseekkathman: grabbing the deb is way easier lol..but i remember doing that too06:19
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kkathmanyeah I can imagine Hobbsee 06:20
frank23how do you use a new cursor theme in kde after you download it?06:20
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kkathmanfrank23: thats a great question!! I have never known how to do that or load themes06:22
Hobbseewhere'd you get the cursor theme from?06:22
Hobbseesystem settings, mouse, install new cursor theme06:23
kkathmanyou can get them from alot of places Hobbsee ... kde-look.org is one06:23
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Hobbseeyeah, if it's kde-look, there are usually instructions06:23
frank23Hobbsee: from kde-look.   06:23
Hobbseeyeah, pick the locatoin of the theme, and it should be done06:23
frank23some sources came with the cursors06:23
Hobbseefrank23: system settings, mouse, cursor themes tab, install new cursor theme, point to location of downloaded theme06:24
kkathmanok where do I get freeciv2?? apt-cache doesnt find it :(06:24
Hobbseelooks like freeciv is there06:25
Hobbseebut that may not be the same thing06:25
frank23Hobbsee: that's what I'm doing but do I have to compile the theme somehow?06:25
Hobbseefrank23: hopefully not, try with the location of the theme06:25
kkathmanahh it requires java :(06:26
kkathmanugh06:26
kkathmanfreeciv is a transitional dummy package :(06:27
frank23Hobbsee: is the theme supposed to be one file only? or a directory?06:27
Hobbseefrank23: probably a directory...could be one file06:27
Hobbseechecking kdelook06:27
frank23trying to install http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1950606:28
Hobbseefrank23: you can pick the archive file, ie you dont have to extract it06:29
Hobbseefrank23: and you'd want the first link - doesnt look like you need the source06:29
frank23Hobbsee: oh....06:30
Hobbseefrank23: unless you plan on changing it...06:30
Hobbseenice cursors06:31
frank23still doesn't work... I must be doing something stupid...06:31
Hobbseefrank23: click on that06:32
Hobbseehttp://kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=19506&id=106:32
Hobbseeif it asks, save to disk06:32
frank23Hobbsee: ok06:32
kkathmanso you save them then you go to the system settings?06:32
Hobbseefrank23: Open the Control Centre06:33
Hobbseefrank23: Open Peripherals -> Mouse06:33
frank23that's what I did before06:33
Hobbseefrank23: Click the Cusor Theme tab06:33
Hobbseefrank23: Click Install New Theme...06:33
kkathmancontrol centre?06:33
Hobbseesystem settings06:33
Hobbseeused to be control centre06:33
HobbseeSelect the cursor theme archive06:34
Hobbseefrank23: Select the cursor theme archive06:34
Hobbseefrank23: Restart KDE06:34
frank23I choose the tar.bz2 file and it gives me The file 19506-pinux's-tux-cursors-theme-0.3-cur.tar.bz2 does not appear to be a valid cursor theme archive06:34
Hobbseeah...assuming you got it installed correctly, i'll bet you didnt restart kde06:34
kkathmanyah this is where I couldnt get past too frank23 06:35
frank23same thing with the index.theme files inside the archive06:35
kkathmanI guess you have to tar something or other06:35
frank23and the ./Build.sh  scripts  give me errors06:36
kkathmanI think its tar xvjf06:36
Hobbseedarn!06:36
frank23I know how to extract tars06:36
kkathmanI always forget which options are for bz2s and which are for gz06:36
frank23ok.. well I'l try to figure it out with another cursor package06:36
Hobbseei wonder if the quick and dirty method works...06:36
frank23kkathman: j for bz2 and z for gz06:37
Hobbseeah...let us see...06:38
kkathmanshows how much I do that :)06:38
kkathmanhehe06:38
Hobbseeback in a sec...06:38
Hobbseetesting if this works...06:38
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Hobbseedarn, that's a pain06:40
frank23Hobbsee: I found how06:40
Hobbseegot another idea though...06:40
Hobbsee:D06:40
Hobbseeah ha!06:40
frank23copy cursors directory to  .icons/pinux/06:40
Hobbseeyou can stick it in 06:40
Hobbseeyep06:40
Hobbseewhich is precisely what i just tried lol06:40
frank23Hobbsee: hmm.. still doesn't work06:41
Hobbseefrank23: then restart kde?06:41
Hobbseefrank23: then go in and select the theme06:41
frank23Hobbsee: now I got it!06:42
Hobbsee:D06:42
Hobbseedid you want to copy that theme, so it's used in firefox and thunderbird too?06:43
frank23Hobbsee: the howto shows how to do this I think06:43
Hobbseeyeah, it does06:44
Hobbseein short, copy the two files (ie index and cursor folder) to ~/.icons/default06:44
frank23Hobbsee: ok thanks ;-)06:44
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frank23all this for stupid cursors! lol06:44
Hobbseehehe06:45
Hobbseeit wont be so difficult next time as you'll know how to do it06:45
Hobbseemore difficult seems to be changing the kdm theme - it never works when i try, so i gave up06:45
Hobbseeand the breezy one is nicer than the hoary one, anywya06:45
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azertyuuuhey all, if i use Adept to install packages, it downloads always from Belgian websites (be.archive.kubuntu) , and usually, i get error that some files aren't found. Can i change the location 06:55
Hobbseeazertyuuu: sure, kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list06:55
Hobbseeazertyuuu: then change it from there06:56
kkathmanHobbsee: what is kdesu?06:56
azertyuuuand do you know good servers 06:56
Hobbsee!kdesu06:56
ubotuUse kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.06:56
kkathmanahh06:56
Hobbseekkathman: i keep getting told off for it lol06:56
Hobbsee!mirrors06:56
ubotumethinks mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive06:56
frank23azertyuuu: I use canada (ca)  06:56
Hobbsee!tell azertyuuu about mirrors06:56
kkathmanI always use sudo gedit06:56
frank23azertyuuu: I never had problems with them06:56
kkathmanforce of habit06:57
Hobbseeyeah, but that assumes you have gnome06:57
kkathmanyah true06:57
kkathmanI do06:57
Hobbseei use the au mirrors here, as that's where i am06:57
kkathmancuz I dont like NOT having a backup GUI06:57
Hobbseeheh06:57
Hobbseewho needs a backup GUI?  there's a console06:58
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Hobbseeif you really get stuck, you can just install an extra GUI from there...06:58
dmlinuxHey guys, anyone here a amaroK expert?06:58
kkathmanLOL 06:58
Hobbseedmlinux: no, but no one will have a chance of answering till you ask06:58
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dmlinuxOn amaroK my window the the left with all the suggested songs, and ratings and stuff dissappeared, anyon eknow the hot key to bring it back up06:59
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Hobbseedmlinux: do you have amarok in the tray?06:59
kkathmanHobbsee: you mean the alt 1, alt 2 etc?07:00
dmlinuxHobbsee yes i have the window open atm07:00
kkathmanor the virtual desktops?07:00
Hobbseekkathman: virtual desktops07:00
kkathmanYah I have 8 of them07:00
Hobbseekkathman: the nice things with scrolling black text lol07:00
Hobbseeah, no, not that07:00
Hobbseei meant virtual consoles, sorry07:00
Hobbseethe ones without the GUI07:00
kkathmanahh so the alt-1 alt-2 thing07:00
kkathmanwhy dont you just use Konsole 07:01
Hobbseei do sometimes07:01
kkathmanyou can have multiples of those07:01
Hobbseeit's quicker to hit the hotkey than to fire up a console07:01
kkathmanI keep a Konsole always up in my #1 virtual desktop07:01
Hobbseeesp if my fingers are already on the keys and not the touchpad07:01
dmlinuxanyone know how to get the window up in amarok that tells me ratings, and has the album art , and other info up07:02
Hobbseedmlinux: is it somewhere in the options menu?07:02
dmlinuxhobbsee i dont see it07:02
frank23does anyone have files disappearing from the amrok playlist after you double click them?07:02
kkathmanlike I said, keep one up on your virt desktop...its scrollable :)07:02
Hobbsee*settings, configure amarok07:02
Hobbseekkathman: that is true07:02
dmlinuxhobsee awe crap found it07:02
dmlinuxhobbsee thanks lol im an ijiot07:02
Hobbsee:P07:02
Hobbseedont worry, all of us have idiot questions at some point07:02
dmlinuxthanks all :)07:02
dmlinuxim a gnome user :( so07:03
kkathmanI dont know if there is a hotkey that switches between virtual desktops07:03
dmlinuxi like the bar on top and bar on bottom , thats the only reason i still use GNOME07:03
dmlinuxi have KDE stuff floating on memory, 07:03
azertyuuuthis is the best repository i guess http://archive.ubuntu.com07:03
azertyuuunot ?07:03
Hobbseekkathman: there is if you set one :P07:03
dmlinuxback to #ubuntu  :)07:04
Hobbseelol07:04
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frank23dmlinux: you can put bars where you want in kde too07:04
frank23too late07:04
Hobbseei cant stand having two bars07:04
sampanme either07:04
azertyuuuthis is the best repository i guess http://archive.ubuntu.com07:05
Hobbseeand the stuff all doesnt fit on one, in gnome, i find07:05
sampani -hate- that about gnome07:05
kkathmanShoot Ive been working in KDE too long...I forget all those command line things AHHHH!!!07:05
Hobbseekkathman: LOL07:05
Hobbseekkathman: you only need to know some of them07:05
Hobbseeazertyuuu: yeah, most people will use that07:05
kkathmanfortunately I have my trusty Linux Bible right here!!07:05
frank23what made me switch to kde was that I hated nautilus though07:05
sampanis the us.archive still down?07:05
azertyuuuso is replace http://be.archive.ubuntu.com with http://archive.ubuntu.com07:06
Hobbseekkathman: hehe07:06
azertyuuucan i do that ?07:06
frank23azertyuuu: yes07:07
frank23or switch to another country07:07
kkathmanHobbsee: Does Ubuntu use the standard ctrl-alt-F1, F2 etc for the virtual consoles?07:07
Hobbseeyuck...artsd is chugging today on my machine!  must fix that!07:07
Hobbseeyes07:07
Hobbseewell, does here, and i havent changed the defaults mostly07:07
frank23kkathman: yes07:08
kkathmanHobbsee: i thought you were running the beta207:08
kkathmanfrank23: so is there a quick hotkey that will move between virtual desktops in KDE then?07:08
frank23kkathman: win+f1 , f2....07:09
frank23but my shortcuts may not be standard07:09
kkathmanyah its not standard :)07:10
frank23anybody knows what the key next to the right win key does? I never got it...07:10
azertyuuuTHANX ALL 07:10
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kkathmanstandard is Ctrl-F1, F207:10
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azertyuuukubuntu updates without probs now07:10
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stbaingreetings all07:12
Hobbseewell that was a little inconvenient!07:12
kkathmanHobbsee:  what?07:12
Hobbseekkathman: i was running beta2, then reinstalled as it was very unstable07:12
kkathmanyah... mistake for sure07:13
kkathmanI think it was premature to release that07:13
Hobbseewell, amarok wasnt really playing correctly, tried changing some settings in system settings, machine locked up, including virtual terminals, had to hit power button07:13
Hobbseeyeah, which is odd07:13
Hobbseebeta 1 gave most people no problems at all07:13
kkathmanHobbsee: beta2 has all kinds of problems with artsd07:13
Hobbseeyeah, i know...07:13
stbainis anyone else getting an error trying to apt-get update where us.archive.ubuntu.com resolves to 0.0.32.144?07:14
Hobbseeit took ages for someone to tell me how to get rid of it!07:14
kkathmanget rid of artsd?07:14
kkathmanlol07:14
azertyuuustbain, i use archive.ubuntu.com07:14
kkathmanI had an interesting question today....can you uninstall Open Office?? Cuz I dont think you can07:14
kkathmanit prompts to uninstall kubuntu-desktop!07:15
azertyuuustbain, try this kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list   and remove the "us" before "archive.ubuntu.com"07:15
kkathmanmy us archives seem to work fine07:15
kkathmanbut I dont know for sure I guess07:15
stbainOdd.... check it out: Cannot initiate the connection to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (0.0.32.144)07:15
stbainsame error for us.archive.ubuntu.com07:16
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azertyuuudon't know07:16
frank23kkathman: uninstalling kubuntu-desktop is not the end of the world (although you should have it in for a dist-upgrade)07:16
frank23stbain: that is not the right IP for sure07:16
kkathmanyah my us archives are working fine...just checked07:16
sampanstbain, sounds like a dns problem with your isp07:16
stbainping us.archive.ubuntu.com gives me "connect: Invalid argument"07:16
stbainheh07:17
kkathmanfrank23: OH I know07:17
sampani get 22:  caesar.acc.umu.se (130.239.18.142)  when i tracepath to us.archive.ubuntu.com07:17
kkathmanI just though it odd that you cant remove Open Office1 or 207:17
stbainheh... check out the A record from dig: us.archive.ubuntu.com.  10000   IN      A       0.0.32.14407:17
frank23kkathman: in breezy openoffice1 is not in kubuntu-desktop though07:18
stbaindang... I was soooo looking forward to using Kubuntu for work in the morning (first time installing it)07:18
Tm_Tfrank23: why you need openoffice1 ?07:18
frank23Tm_T: I don't07:18
Tm_Tok07:18
Tm_Tthen remove it07:18
regeyano joke.  openoffice2 is a definite improvement07:19
frank23Tm_T: I did07:19
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azertyuuuhey all, i heard that OOo 2 final is out, and i want it. Do i have to remove the standard version (beta) first and download the newest with adept or what ?07:19
Tm_Tazertyuuu: I don't think adept has it yet07:20
frank23azertyuuu: it will eventually be in breezy-backports... until then I'm not sure what is the best way to install07:20
azertyuuuok 07:20
aaronjswell....  3rd attempt to install kubuntu on my server...  Keeps failing.   The log it tells me to check does not exist.   The disk checks out as being good. I've used the same disk in teh same drive to install on the other systems.  The system is a dual athlon ASUS mobo.07:21
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aaronjsdoh.  Hobbsee you  missed my question.  lol07:22
kkathmanfrank23: well remember I upgraded from hoary, which had OO1...so now I have both :(07:22
Hobbsee*sigh*07:22
frank23kkathman: I did too but you can remove OO1 now07:22
Hobbseeaaronjs: sorry, what?  what'd i miss?07:22
aaronjswell....  3rd attempt to install kubuntu on my server...  Keeps failing.   The log it tells me to check does not exist.   The disk checks out as being good. I've used the same disk in teh same drive to install on the other systems.  The system is a dual athlon ASUS mobo.07:22
Hobbseeevery once in a while system settings will crash in trying to change the sound, then it goes away - never found out why07:23
Hobbseehence the crash07:23
Hobbseees07:23
aaronjsdisable the sound then?07:23
kkathmanfrank23: how can you remove it...when you try, it wants to delete oo207:23
aaronjsuntil after install, Hobbsee?07:23
kkathmanI mean kubuntu07:23
Hobbseeaaronjs: sorry, i was meaning that was why i went awol, and had to reboot07:23
aaronjsah07:24
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stbainhrmmm... I'm not sure, but I think my fresh kubuntu install has some networking issues. It's resolving ubuntu.com addresses to 0.0.32.144. Perhaps I need to disable IPv6 or something?07:24
Hobbseeaaronjs: where and why does it fail?07:24
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Hobbseehehe...someone in ubuntu saying that xkill isnt graphical07:25
aaronjsHobbsee: during the install of the base system.   on the third try, it is getting further.   it asked me which kernel I wanted to instal.  I'm begining to think it doesn't know what to do with the smp.07:25
Hobbseewell, it's point and click, that would make it graphical wouldnt it?07:25
kkathmanlol07:26
frank23kkathman: you can remove the openoffice.org packages except openoffice.org-debian-files07:27
aaronjswell... xkill isn't the most polished graphically...   07:27
Hobbseewith the smp?07:27
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kkathmanHobbsee: so do you know how to remove OOffice1 ?07:27
kkathmanfrank23: says you can07:27
kkathmanbut I dunno07:27
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Hobbseeit's still more graphical than killall whatever, or top07:28
Hobbseekkathman: sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org07:28
kkathmanHobbsee: when you do that, it will want to remove kubuntu-desktop07:28
Hobbseekkathman: you can do that, it's a metapackage07:28
azertyuuuis it also possible with  "dpkg -r O..."  ?07:28
kkathmanthats what I keep saying :)07:28
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Hobbseeum...probably possible, but more painful07:29
Kamping_Kaiserhi Hobbsee07:29
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frank23kkathman: what version of kubuntu-desktop do you have?07:29
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aftertafhi all07:30
Hobbseefrank23: hoary, clearly07:30
frank23kkathman: openoffice.org is now in universe. it should not be needed07:30
kkathmanhmmm I wonder why my console doesnt have colors anymore..thats something I just noticed07:30
Hobbseehi aftertaf :D07:30
Hobbseehi Kamping_Kaiser :D07:30
kkathmanhey aftertaf :)07:30
Kamping_Kaiserhi aftertaf :)07:30
aftertafhi everyone :)07:30
kkathmanI dont need it :)07:30
kkathmanhehe07:30
Hobbseekonsole having colours?07:30
aftertafwhat a wonderful welcome......07:30
Hobbseehmmm...i like that idea07:30
Hobbseehehe07:30
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kkathmanHobbsee: yah... ya know...blues and greens07:31
Hobbseeyou're obviously here enough that you're recognised07:31
aftertafhehe07:31
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Hobbseekkathman: ooh pretty...maybe i'll have to do that with my virtual terminals07:31
kkathmanwas that way in hoary but not now :(07:31
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Hobbseekkathman: hang on, which are you running?07:31
Hobbseehoary or breezy?07:31
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kkathmanbreezy07:31
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Hobbseewhich did you want to remove?07:32
Hobbseeopen office 1 or 2?07:32
kkathmanI remember vaguely there is a colors file somewhere that shows symlinks in a color, and functions in another.etc07:32
kkathmanHobbsee: I want to get rid of OO1...cuz I have Koffice and OO207:32
Hobbseekkathman: then sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org07:32
Hobbseekkathman: nice, i'll go look for it07:32
Hobbseelater07:32
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kkathmanI miss my colors in my Konsole :(07:33
sampanthe upgrade nuked them?07:33
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kkathmanyah07:33
sampancan you get them back by settings --> schema ?07:33
kkathmannah..I mean in the Konsole07:34
sampanmy konsole is colorized, so you should be able to get them back07:34
kkathmanor Console07:34
kkathmanyah I07:34
kkathmanI would think so...but I gotta figure out how07:34
sampanor do you mean the virtual console?  or the app?07:34
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Hobbseeoh..07:35
sampanmy konsole app is colorized, but i dunno about the virtual-consoles ... i never use them since i run irssi in konsole and just have a couple extra konsole tabs behind it07:35
Hobbseeooh pretty07:36
Hobbseepity i just made mine unreadable lol07:36
sampanlol hate it when that happens07:36
aaronjsnot sure how kubuntu works, but if you loose colorized output, sounds like the skel for the master user might need to be copied over to the user that lost the color.07:36
kkathmansampan: I dont even have colors in my Konsole, or in the virtual consoles either07:37
Hobbseevery pretty :D07:37
aaronjsisn't that stuff in .bash_rc or .profile or something (depending on dist)07:37
Hobbseei'd love all the different commands in different colours, like ls does...07:37
sampankkathman, hrmmmm ... that's not good  :(   some file get misplaced in the upgrade?07:38
sampanaaronjs  forgive an uber-noob question, but what is "skel"?  07:39
kkathmanyah I dunno07:40
kkathmanthere is some file that must be missing07:40
kkathmanthis is like a thing with me now... I must fix this!07:40
Hobbseehehe07:40
Hobbseekkathman has decided!07:41
aaronjssampan: the skeleton/foundation for creating the structure of a users home directory (or anythign for that matter)07:41
sampanwell my .bashrc does have lines for formatting color output (ls command)07:41
sampanahhh, thanks aaronjs 07:41
aaronjssampan: as well, it should. :)07:41
aaronjssampan: you can look for files of custom ones on the net, and get _really_ crazy.07:42
sampanlol i'm sure there are some funky ones out there07:43
kkathmanhmmm Hobbsee I think its a bashrc issue07:43
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Hobbseeright07:43
aaronjskkathman: just have someone query you and paste their bashrc07:44
aaronjs, or pull it from svn/cvs... whatever Ubuntu uses.07:44
aaronjsooops...07:45
aaronjswhatever kubuntu uses.07:45
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aaronjskkathman: did it work?07:46
aaronjskkathman: I imagine you will have to source .bashrc in order to get it to reload it. :)07:46
kkathmanwhere is .bashrc  in etc?07:47
aaronjskkathman: do a ls -la in your ~ (home) dir.07:47
kkathmanahh stupid me...of course!!07:47
aaronjskkathman: no, not stupid.07:48
aaronjskkathman: if it wasn't htere, I believe you would default to the one in /usr/share or something...07:48
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aaronjsso, you are right.07:48
aaronjsthere exists elsewhere the same file07:48
aaronjs<usually coppied as part of teh skeleton for a new user setup>07:49
aaronjsdo a sudo locate -u and then type locate .bashrc and you'll find out really quick where they all are. ;)07:49
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aaronjskkathman: perhaps you could sudo cp /etc/skel/.bashrc to your home directory.07:53
kkathmanaaronjs: in my bashrc the color=auto wasnt set for ls...so I changed that. But I need to somehow logout and log back in07:53
aaronjskkathman: nope07:53
kkathmanno?07:53
aaronjssource .bashrc07:53
kkathmanahhh07:53
aaronjssee if that works 07:54
aaronjsif not, close the console, and open it back up.07:54
aaronjsit should source each time you start it.07:54
aaronjs"konsole" I assume.07:54
kkathmanBINGO07:54
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sampancolorized!07:54
aaronjswoooooooooo whooooooooo.07:54
sampancolor kkathman tickled pink!07:54
aaronjskkathman: no you can go to bed. :)07:54
Hobbseelol07:54
aaronjsno/ now07:54
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Hobbseescreenshot?07:54
kkathmanlol07:55
sampanlol hobbsee07:55
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Hobbseei want to see what it looks like lol07:55
aaronjs4th try is a charm. :)07:55
Hobbseeaaronjs: yay!07:55
Hobbseeit is07:55
aaronjsHobbsee: don't let people complain about not being able to install, unless they can prove they burnt their cd at sane speeds. lol07:56
Hobbseehehe07:56
DaSkreechAnyone plays with OO Base?07:56
DaSkreechOr has it? :)07:56
Hobbseei've only ever had an install die once07:56
Hobbseei've got oo.o2 base07:56
DaSkreechI need to test something funky I'me seeing07:57
Hobbseesure07:57
aaronjskkathman: if you are really retentive on the colors, check out /usr/share/doc/adduser/examples/adduser.local.conf.examples/bash.bashrc or surf the net for some addition "blinging" color files.07:57
DaSkreechHobbsee: Open any database that has a field with repeated data07:57
Hobbseeum...i dont have one on here...07:57
Hobbseea link to one?07:58
DaSkreechJust make one with one field 07:58
aaronjsHobbsee: just make one.   lol   5 seconds or so.  :)07:58
Hobbseeactually, maybe i do from last year...07:58
DaSkreechand enter the same thign on two rows07:58
DaSkreechthing07:58
DaSkreechThen do a SELECT "FieldName" FROM "Table"07:59
Hobbseeum...attempting to input data...07:59
Hobbseeeek, now you've lost me lol08:00
kkathmanaaronjs: now thats quite a file!!08:00
Hobbseei've deliberately forgotten all of the access stuff08:00
DaSkreech:-)08:00
DaSkreechok You are on Tables?08:00
kkathmanI dont particularly like the purple08:00
DaSkreechand put the same data on two rows?08:00
Hobbseeway lost...08:00
kkathmanbut I dont think you can set the colors per se08:00
DaSkreechHobbsee: Where are you?08:01
DaSkreechOh08:01
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DaSkreechThat lost :(08:01
kkathmanaaronjs: do you know if you can set those colors differently?08:02
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strike4ceHow Do I set firefox as my default browser?08:03
DaSkreechWhat just happened?08:03
strike4ceHow Do I set firefox as my default browser?08:04
aaronjsDaSkreech: probably a server split08:04
strike4cenet split08:05
DaSkreechwell that kicked a lot of people08:05
aaronjsheh, what strike4ce said..  lol08:05
aaronjsDaSkreech: the'll be back.08:05
DaSkreechOK thats fine then08:06
kkathmanevery one still here?08:06
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DaSkreechnaolith got kicked 08:06
DaSkreechand about 20 other people are presumed missing :-)08:06
kkathmanoh now this is weird08:07
DaSkreechdoes anyone else have base and was following what I was saying?08:08
Kinomeeshow to exec Realplayers *.bin file ?08:08
DaSkreechTry mplayer?08:08
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strike4ceHow Do I set firefox as my default browser?08:12
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Kinomeesi have a *.bin file08:12
strike4ceHow Do I set firefox as my default browser?08:12
Kinomeesshould be a linux installer or smth08:12
DaSkreechstrike4ce: It's in Firefox's prefrences 08:12
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Kinomeescool netsplit :D08:13
DaSkreechIt did it again08:13
DaSkreechOK lilo just pmed me08:13
aftertafstrike4ce:  stsyem settings > kde componetes08:13
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DaSkreechstrike4ce: got that?08:14
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elementarmycan someone help with a dsl prob?08:16
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elementarmyof08:17
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aaronjsheh....  gooooooooooo  Freaknode.08:17
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mcquaidhello is there a qt/kde app simliar to gnome's gok?  a program so you can see a keyboard overlay and 'type' with the mouse08:30
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kkathmanback08:32
kkathmanMajor internet outage here08:32
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kkathmananyone here?08:33
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Tm_Tkkathman: no08:33
kkathmanyou funny guy you08:33
Tm_Tkkathman: you have noticed messages in your status window?08:34
Tm_Tkkathman: explains that traffic08:34
kkathmannope08:34
kkathman??08:34
kinfowhat?08:34
Tm_Tabout freenode and routing issues08:34
kkathmanoh yeah08:35
kkathmanwell, for me it was an internet problem08:35
Tm_T:)08:35
kkathmansouthwest08:35
kkathmanall of my computers went down08:35
kkathmanso it wasnt just freenode08:35
kkathmanno internet nothing !08:35
gdiebelkkathman, yeah weird internet stuff going on now. google wasn't working for me for about half hour!08:36
kkathmanwas back up in about 15 minutes08:36
Tm_Tgdiebel: yup, or try use bugs.kde.org08:36
kkathmanI suspect it was a simple matter of Tm_T trying to take the whole American internet down08:36
Tm_Tno08:37
Tm_Tkkathman: global issues here08:37
kkathmanhes so quiet over there...you just wonder what he's up to08:37
Tm_Tkkathman: america is just a small part of it08:37
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thoreauputicit's about a dispute between level3 and cogent I believe - peering arrangements08:37
Tm_Tyu08:38
Tm_Tthoreauputic: no, don't blame me about it08:38
kkathmanthoreauputic: well Southern US has a massive internet outage too08:38
thoreauputicTm_T: ? you work for them?08:38
Tm_Tthoreauputic: no, I work for me08:38
kkathmanahh he's a mercenary08:38
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Tm_Thmh, what switch or lever I pull down next08:39
kkathmanjust curious..is there a way in Konversation that it could automatically identify me when I log in?08:39
sampanpull the one that says to upgrade my connection speed to 3megs down and 768 up08:39
Tm_Tone ... two ... sixteen... apple08:39
sampan:X08:39
thoreauputicTm_T: just push the big red button on the left ;-)08:39
kkathmanI know you can do that in mIRC08:39
Tm_Tthoreauputic: it's for netsplit in ircnet08:40
sampankkathman  if you 'edit' the connection to freenode in konversation, there's a line for "commands"08:41
sampani'd imagine if you put the /msg nickserv identify command in there, it would do the trick ?08:41
sampannot sure how konversation command syntax is (i use irssi), but probably pretty simple08:42
kkathmanI also set up an alias08:42
aftertafkkathman:  i think there is a chan or nickserv password zone where you can put your password08:42
kkathmanman Im so spoiled from using mIRC08:42
kkathmannickserv aftertaf 08:43
Tm_T:(08:43
Tm_TmIRC is pain08:43
kkathmanits a /msg nickserv identify <password>08:43
Tm_Tnever liked it08:43
kkathmanI love mIRC08:43
sampanmirc has a lot of features, but i really much prefer irssi's all text console08:43
kkathmanso easy to use and VERY customizable08:43
Tm_Tsampan: what features?08:43
kkathmanIm going to log out and back in here and see if that server command works sampan08:44
kkathmanbrb08:44
sampantm_t, it's really configurable, and easily so -- colors, sizes, fonts of individual windows, etc.  it does mp3 sound requests -- lots of things08:44
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kkathmanseems to have worked08:44
Tm_Tsampan: I can't imagine anything what is needed and can't be done in irssi too08:44
kkathmanKonversation isnt that bad at all08:45
sampantm_t, most things i'm sure -- just a question of how many scripts and stuff you wanna load.  i don't miss mirc much, but it's a very easy to use irc client08:45
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kkathmanI used to op on several channels so mIRC makes that so easy08:45
Kinomeesok ... why do i need package "locales" ?08:45
sampanlike i said, i'm happy to have switched to irssi -- it's a great irc client -- but it took me about 2 weeks to customize the config file so that it looked nice to me08:46
Tm_Tsampan: scripts? why I should load any scripts08:48
sampankkathman  is konversation irc only? or is it one of those multiple protocol messengers?  08:48
kkathmansampan: I looked at irssi and thought it customizable but you had to work at it...shouldnt take 2 weeks :)08:48
sampantm_t, well because without them you can't open up a url in irssi 08:48
kkathmansampan: Konversation I think is ONLY IRC08:48
Tm_Tsampan: why should you, it's console app08:48
Tm_Tkkathman: it is08:49
sampantm_t, because often people post interesting links and cutting/pasting is kinda a pain08:49
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sampanthat's going back to using a mouse -- and avoiding that is part of the whole point in having a text-only irc client08:49
Tm_Tsampan: err, your terminal can do that for you08:49
strike4ceWhat is the command to dpkg from desktop?08:50
sampani can't find a way to scroll up into the channel or msg text to copy/paste text without using a mouse08:50
strike4ceanyone?08:50
kkathmanfrom desktop?? you mean console?08:50
sampanstrike4ce  sudo dpkg -i nameoffile.deb  08:50
Tm_Tsampan: hmm, page up/page down08:50
kkathmanstrike4ce: dpkg -i <package name>08:51
sampantm_t, that only scrolls the text itself, -- it doesn't let me select a specific bit of text to copy 08:51
sampanmy cursor is still stuck on the base line08:51
Tm_Tsampan: ...08:51
Tm_Tok08:51
Tm_TI still don't see your point, but I don't mind :)08:52
Tm_Tyou find that as a lack, ok08:52
kkathmanwhat time is it there Tm_T ?? around 9 or 10am?08:52
Tm_Talmost 1008:52
DaSkreech1:52 am08:52
kkathmanyah here too DaSkreech 08:52
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sampantm_t, i find not being able to open a url in channel/msg without using a mouse to be a lack -- yes -- so there's a very nice script that i load that lets me just type: /openurl #  and it opens it in my browser08:53
sampanyou asked why i load scripts -- that's one reason why :)08:53
kkathmansampan: you dont like using a mouse?08:53
sampankkathman, not if it's a console app ... it takes a long time to take hands off keys, move to mouse, select text (esp if it's moving fast in a chan of 100+ people) and then paste into browser08:54
sampanmuch faster to type /openurl # 08:54
kkathmanahh see when you get older and cant remember all the commands, a mouse is nice :)08:54
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Tm_T:p08:55
sampanit's really only for irc that i hate gui08:55
Tm_Tolder like me or kkathman here08:55
sampanit's a text medium, so my typing is faster than mousing i guess08:55
kkathmanI might pull one of my linux boxes off and put Knoppix on it for grins08:55
kkathmanIm the old one Tm_T  :)08:55
Tm_Tkkathman: and I'm not?!08:55
kkathmanno your not08:55
kkathmanhaha08:55
Tm_Tsampan: well, to me those urls are less important08:56
sampantm_t, yeah -- i gathered that :)  some other scripts for irssi are nice too.  the 'ls' one lets me search the chanlist for any string in nick/identd/host -- very useful at times08:56
Tm_Twhy hte hell I need chanlist08:57
Tm_T:p08:57
sampanwell if you're opping a channel of 200 users (which i used to do), it's very important :D08:57
Tm_Tnah08:57
Tm_Tnever done it08:57
Tm_Tnever will08:58
kkathmanI wish there was a way to put a different background on each virtual desktop08:58
Tm_Tsampan: sounds like you use quakenet08:58
Tm_Tkkathman: there is08:58
kkathmaninstead of the same one on all08:58
kkathmanREALLY???08:58
kkathmanHOW?08:58
Tm_Tyup08:58
sampantm_t, actually undernet for years ... hardly there at all anymore08:58
Tm_Tkkathman: you got that background dialog open?08:58
kkathmanoff of configure desktop?08:59
Tm_Tor where ever08:59
kkathmanyes08:59
DaSkreechAh Net stopped burping :)08:59
DaSkreechAnyone hae OO base? :-)08:59
Tm_Tin top of it, you see droplist08:59
kkathmanISEE IT!! KEWL!!08:59
kkathmanHOWD I MISS THAT!08:59
sampanlol08:59
Tm_TSetting for desktops:08:59
Tm_T-s08:59
Tm_Tthere's your answer08:59
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sampanfunny how the littlest things sometimes -- i accidentally turned off icon in apps' menus 09:00
sampanholy moly, took me HOURS to find how to turn them back on again 09:00
kkathmanahh it doesnt work tho :(09:00
sampanmaybe you have to restart kde?09:00
Tm_Tno!09:01
Tm_Tkkathman: are you sure you pressed "apply" after every change?09:01
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Tm_TI don't think it's required but make things more sure09:01
kkathmanAhh ok it works09:02
sampanthat's what i love about kde -- everything is tweakable -- choice is almost overwhelming at times (esp. after using windows where so little is customizable), but it's hard to deal with gnome where everything feels so straightjacketed09:03
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kkathmanI need a really black or neutral background for my console and various other things for the other desktops09:07
sampanuse a lot of virtual desktops?09:08
Tm_Thmm09:08
Tm_T8 here09:08
raphink12 here09:08
raphink:)09:08
sampansheesh ... 209:08
raphinklol09:08
raphinkI run all my programs full screen, on different desktops :)09:08
sampanmy needs are simple i guess09:09
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raphinkKaiser_Away: :D09:09
DaSkreechStraight Konsole *cough* I mean console for me09:09
Kaiser_Away:)09:09
sampani think the last time i used an app in full screen it was photoedting for a bonsai book like 4 years ago :/09:10
raphinkKaiser_Away: few people do that09:10
raphinkbut I find it so great to run all programs full screens :)09:10
raphinkand just have one task = one screen09:10
raphink:)09:10
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Kaiser_Awayraphink: then you know where it is, and its 'glance' able as well :D09:10
raphinkyes09:10
raphinkI always know that Konversation is always open on desktop 609:11
raphinkkonqui on 209:11
raphinkkonsole on 409:11
raphinketc.09:11
raphinkso I can just ctrl+Fx to access any program I use very often09:11
DaSkreechraphink: Get yakuake09:11
raphinkand it helps focusing on what I'm doing to hvae the program taking the whole screen09:11
sampani guess i just use overlapping windows, but i don't fret them much, just switch alt-tab to whichever i want at any moment09:11
raphinkhow will that help me DaSkreech ?09:12
DaSkreechOne less desktop to dust09:12
raphinksampan: that's what I do when I need several windows on the same desktops09:12
raphinkif I need several programs to achieve one task09:12
sampanmakes sense09:12
raphinkDaSkreech: what's wrong with having lots of desktops ?09:12
kkathmanwell its after 2am...Im off to bed...cyall tomorrow :)09:13
sampannight kkathman 09:13
kkathmannighters :)09:13
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hussamguys check this out http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/debian.jpg09:19
aftertafloooool09:20
aftertafwould you like fries :] 09:20
hussamaftertaf: Ubuntu, http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/ubuntu.jpg09:21
aftertaf:] 09:22
Tm_Thussam: who cares, that's really old "joke"09:22
aftertafnew to me...09:23
hussamTm_T: I know it's old, but I'm bored and things seem funnier when I'm bored lol :)09:23
Tm_T:(09:23
hussamTm_T: It's the first time I see it too09:23
DaSkreechAnyone have OO.o base and 15 minutes?09:24
aftertaflol09:25
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Tm_Tif I have base but no 15min?09:26
Tm_TI'm ok then?09:26
Tm_Tor no base but 15min?09:27
DaSkreechSure09:27
Tm_Tor, grey hair and no teeth?09:27
DaSkreechIf you have a database with repeated data09:27
Tm_T;)09:27
_manveruare there any known issues concerning amaroK on kubuntu 5.10 ?09:27
Tm_Tmanveru: yes09:27
Tm_Tworrrrrrking great <309:27
_manveru-.-09:27
_manverui got 2 kubuntu-boxes here, both give me no sound09:28
_manverui mean, they do, but not in amaroK09:28
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Tm_Tcheck a) your installed plugins09:29
Tm_Tb) amarok engine selection09:29
_manveruwell, i have installed everything that was related to amarok09:30
_manveruthe xine, artsd, gstreamer plugins09:30
raphink_manveru: did you install the mp3 codecs?09:30
_manveru?09:30
raphink!w32codecs09:30
ubotuw32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)09:30
_manveru!09:30
ubotuNo idea, _manveru09:30
raphinkhmm sorry that's another thing09:30
raphink!codecs09:30
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:30
raphinkmp3 is not a free format, and thus not included in the basic ubuntu install09:31
_manveruhell, like suse in it's early years...09:31
raphinkyou have to install them09:31
_manveruand why does JuK play them?09:31
Tm_Tdifferent engine09:31
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Hhhhh!codecs09:32
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:32
Hhhhh!codecs09:32
Hhhhh;)09:32
strike4ceHow do I open a file with alien?09:33
strike4ceIs alien supposed to be on my desktop?09:33
mornfalli have updated the adept 2.0 feature list on http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html -- comments?09:33
thoreauputicstrike4ce: 1) you don't - you use alien to convert rpms  2) no09:33
DaSkreech1.) Get beamed up with or without your will09:34
strike4cethoreauputic: what the?09:34
mornfalli'd say you shouldn't use alien unless you know what it does and how it works =)09:34
thoreauputic!info alien09:34
ubotualien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB09:34
strike4cethoreauputic: What should I use to convert the rpm file?09:34
_manveruso it is a ubuntu-problem after all09:35
thoreauputicstrike4ce: why are you using rpm?09:35
_manveruwould be nice to have a short message during the installation or something09:35
strike4ceto install a ati driver09:35
thoreauputic!ati09:35
ubotumethinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1009:35
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thoreauputicstrike4ce: ^^^^09:35
_manveru!mp309:35
ubotump3 is, like, a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats - click away:)09:35
mornfalloh yey binary formats09:35
mornfallerr, drivers09:36
mornfallthat mp3 thing got me confused09:36
mornfall*sigh*09:36
mornfallwhat about that feature list?09:36
mornfallanyone care to comment?09:36
_manveruwhat features?09:36
DaSkreechYeah09:36
DaSkreechwell no But I have a question09:36
mornfallhmh09:37
DaSkreechmornfall: Can the konsole be hidden in such a way that if it's gone and a question comes up that is put into a pop up dialog box?09:37
mornfall_manveru: http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html look down adept 2.0 planned feature list09:37
mornfallDaSkreech: it'd be nice if you would read the list first =)09:37
mornfallfrom the page, "make it possible to hide the konsole somehow, unless it's needed for user interaction (and show progressbar for dpkg)"09:38
mornfallah, also forget popups09:38
mornfallpopups are evil09:38
strike4cethoreauputic: ATI has a driver for linux I dont want the flgrx driver09:39
_manverumornfall: how about dpkg-reconfigure ?09:39
mornfall_manveru: "how about" == ?09:39
mornfall_manveru: if you want that in, file a wishlist on bugs.kde.org :))09:39
_manveru^^09:39
_manverujust wanted to hear your thoughts09:39
_manverubut, every feature of dpkg would be nice...09:40
_manveruand in the end you are in the console...09:40
thoreauputicstrike4ce: *shrug* I don't see how we can support proprietary drivers - the instructions are on the web page I guess09:40
_manveru:)09:40
DaSkreechmornfall: I did09:40
DaSkreechmornfall: So the konsole would ... flash when it needs attention?09:41
mornfallDaSkreech: do what?09:41
DaSkreechWell you say it should hide unless user interaction is needed and you are against it popping up so whats the other options?09:42
mornfallDaSkreech: more like there would be a progress bar and the konsole would be hidden (maybe just showing what's going on in some detail, but less detail than normal dpkg) -- konsole would replace the view if demanding attention09:42
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DaSkreechhmm09:42
mornfalllike currently download and konsole switch places09:42
mornfallbut i'm not sure what's everybody's complaint about the konsole, either09:42
Tm_TKonsole <309:43
DaSkreechIt's bulky for most people I guess09:43
mornfallbulky?09:43
Tm_Twhatta09:43
DaSkreechSit with your grandmother while she uses the computer some time ;)09:43
Tm_TDaSkreech: define09:43
Tm_Terr err09:43
Tm_Tok, I'm not granny09:43
DaSkreechThings like that scare her09:43
mornfallDaSkreech: grandmothers generally don't install software -- they call their grandson if they need that09:43
DaSkreechThey do Updates though09:43
mornfallDaSkreech: maybe, but there's no way we can guarantee the update will go flawlessly09:44
Tm_Tmornfall: err, yes you can09:44
mornfallDaSkreech: and hiding any hint of what went wrong from the user is probably not the smartest idea, ever09:44
mornfallTm_T: hmm? =)09:44
Tm_T:)09:44
mornfallcan't, period :)09:45
mornfallthings break09:45
Tm_Tmornfall: quarantee is you in the other end of telephone wire09:45
mornfallTm_T: in a program, huh09:45
Tm_Tah!09:45
Tm_Tthen09:46
mornfallTm_T: if i could embed myself into code, you would have a decent automated system administrator ;-)09:46
Tm_Tmornfall: please do ;)09:46
mornfallhmm, it would also rewrite itself on occasion09:46
mornfallsometimes in a somewhat exotic languages like scheme or common lisp... or ruby ;-)09:46
Tm_Twhat about very exotic C++ ?09:47
mornfallC++ is not exotic :p09:47
Tm_T:(09:47
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Tm_Tmornfall: go to bookstore09:47
mornfallwell, i don't count moronic languages like java :p09:47
Tm_Tmornfall: atleast here they say "noone is using it"09:47
Tm_Tmornfall: and no C++ bibles available, what a laugh09:48
mornfallwell, tough luck09:48
mornfallit's just a language09:48
_jaypeedoes anyone have amarok .deb package?09:49
_jaypeeversion 1.3.309:49
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mornfallbahmpf09:49
_manveruruby is not exotic :)09:50
DaSkreechD is exotic09:50
_manveruyeah... still09:50
Kinomees/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed09:52
Kinomeeswhat to do ?09:52
Kinomeescant install again09:52
Kinomeessays i have to reconf it09:52
mornfallD, uh09:52
_manveru!java09:52
ubotuI heard java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb09:52
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mornfallwasn't D another parody on C++?09:53
_manveruno, actually it's quite good (that is what i have been told by some guys who use it)09:55
_manveruit's a kind of sanitized C++ to make it really OO and some additional stuff09:55
_manveru!flash09:56
ubotuI guess flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:56
_manveruduh...09:56
mornfallOO is so 80s :-)09:56
_manveruchannel.delete(:mornfall)09:56
_manveru^^09:56
mornfallin that comparison of languages on digitalmars, they *should* have considered libgc (boehm) for C and C++09:57
_manverumaybe some day there will something better, but there is nothing new since the 80s...09:57
mornfallOO is overrated09:58
_manverubtw, any idea why both 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' and 'sudo apt-get install realplayer' doesn't work?09:59
_manveruthere are no pkgs for them, and i _have_ universe09:59
mornfall*and* D has no m-i09:59
_manveruwell, in the case that OO is overrated, i really love to play around with it09:59
_manveruand having fun is one of the most important aspects of programming10:00
DaSkreechI thought hacking it ot the man was one of the most important10:00
mornfallwhat. the. fuck.10:01
mornfallhow can you say that contract programming is a language feature10:01
mornfallanything with an assert can do that10:01
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mornfallokey, class invariants are an interesting feature...10:02
_ben...umm can anyone help out a vaio user?10:03
DaSkreech*burns OO.o 2.0 on a unholy pyre*10:05
DaSkreechRight I'm off10:05
mornfallheh10:06
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fate00why doesn't the proftpd package with work inetd?10:10
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blarfdoes kubuntu have packages for vixie cron?10:11
fate00blarf: look10:11
blarffate00: I did, and I didn't see any10:12
blarfseems like quite a glaring omission10:12
fate00I have no idea what vixie cron is10:14
blarfpaul vixie's version of the cron daemon10:14
fate00cron?10:14
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blarfugh10:17
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nikkiablarf, fcron is better :)10:18
blarfnikki_a: I would agree with you simply on the basis that the out of the box kubuntu install is, quite broken for me.10:19
naliothnikkia: where you been?10:22
nikkianalioth: nowhere, why?10:22
naliothhavent seen/chatted with you lately10:22
blarfack10:23
blarfwtf10:23
blarfhow is "America/Los_Angeles"'s timezone 'UTC'10:23
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sampanheh i had that problem too blarf10:24
sampanlemme see if i can find the webpage for the fix10:24
blarfah, don't worry about it10:24
blarfI'm just whining10:24
sampanlol10:25
blarfI'm going to find a different distro tomorrow10:25
sampanwell mine wouldn't let me re-set it10:25
blarfsampan, mine won't let me:10:25
blarflist the cront tasks or set the timezone10:25
sampanhttp://www.mepis.org/node/767810:26
blarfit set the default x resolution to 640x480. with no obvious way of changing it10:26
blarfno vixie-cron package, no rar package(!??)10:26
sampansomehow my kubuntu install didn't make the proper symlink with my time zone -- had to do it manually -- sounds like yours was the same way10:26
blarfprobably10:26
blarfoh, and not setting a root password by default is nice10:26
Kaiser_Awayblarf: rar is in multiverse iirc10:27
blarfwith no obvious way to change it (have I mentioned I fucking hate sudo?).10:27
sampanthat's the ubuntu way (no root -- just sudo)10:27
blarfsampan, yeah, I'm not down for that. :D10:27
sampanit's easy to enable root though10:27
blarfoh and the hot plug stuff10:27
sampanthat's been fixed too10:28
blarfthat's awesome, I plugged in the iPod, konq popped up two error messages10:28
blarfheh10:28
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sampani had couple problems with kubuntu -- so i ended out just doing a fresh install of ubuntu and then apt-get-ting the kubuntu-desktop10:28
blarfsampan: seems to me there should have been another release then?10:28
blarfseems to me, also, if no root logins are allowed, some way of configuring X should have been presented, before it went into kdm, or from kde10:29
blarfsimply selecting the default reconfigure options for xorg gave me the proper resolution and such10:29
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godzerohi hi10:31
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Kaiser_Awaywtf. how do you "misplace" 17 GIG of data???? i cant even find it with locate10:39
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jeh_workKaiser_Away: check the wastebasket :)10:48
jeh_workon windows i once by mistake pressed the mouse button in explorer and ended up dragging some folders somewhere. took a few hours to sort it out...10:49
sampani deleted 6 gigs of photos once, during a drunken evening on irc :/10:50
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godzerosampan: gotta hide the evidence from the wife somehow.10:53
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sampanlol ... i wish those were the photos i'd have deleted10:54
sampanerrr strike out the "'d have"  -- sheesh i can't type10:55
godzeroif I had a nickle for every time someone forgot to del a file, then came to me for help...10:56
azertyuuuhey all, i need to replace a file , but i must be root, how can i do that ? 10:56
godzeroazertyuuu: sudo (what you wanna do)10:56
azertyuuui want to copy a file10:57
godzerossudo mv file filesnewhome10:57
godzerosudo10:57
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godzerofor some reason my "s" button goes wonky10:58
azertyuuuthanx10:58
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hettarAnyone had any success getting NetworkManager to work with kde ??11:00
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godzeronever used it11:02
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Java_the_HuttHello, is there a fix for administrator mode problem ?11:04
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icewtJava_the_Hutt: you mean the problem with the button?11:06
godzeroJava_the_Hutt: sudo kcontrol11:08
Java_the_Hutticewt: no with the kontrol center11:08
godzeromore a work-around11:08
Java_the_Huttit is stupid11:08
Java_the_Hutti mean didn't they try such a thing as a test ?11:09
icewtor kdesu kcontrol11:09
Java_the_Hutthow can i suggest kubuntu to my friends with such a bug11:09
godzeroicewt: thankyou for correcting me.    yes, kdesu kcontrol11:10
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godzerojava_ that's a problem more with kde11:10
Java_the_HuttI also get  unknown host errors while surfing with konqueror. Do you have such a problem ?11:10
icewtJava_the_Hutt: that's what i meant, problem with the "Administrator Mode..."-button11:11
Java_the_Huttyeah but you are RELEASING an OS and its system settings not working11:11
Java_the_Huttthats not understandable11:11
godzeroJava_the_Hutt: unknowhost is a prob with your tcp/ip11:11
Java_the_Huttgodzero: firefox seems working on the other hand11:12
Java_the_Hutti was just curious if this was a general problem or specific to mine11:12
Java_the_Hutti suppose not general11:12
sampanwhat's the administrator button problem?11:12
sampan<-- curious11:13
godzerounknown host is a tcp/ip prob, more like the timing fixed it. The button prob is a prob that's hard to fix11:13
_Tonio_Java_the_Hutt: the administrator mode is actually causing problems with most users, using systemsettings or kcontrol anyway...11:13
_Tonio_sometimes it works, somethimes not.... no specific rules for this11:13
Java_the_Huttsampan:  you can not go into administrator mode in systemsettings program although you enter the pass11:13
_Tonio_sampan: the problem is that you click on the button, are prompted to put your password, you validate, and then you are not are an administrator11:14
_Tonio_AKA you cannot set tome settings ;)11:14
godzeroJava_the_Hutt: correct11:14
sampanahhh, that happened to me with kubuntu yeah -- not with ubuntu + kunbuntu-desktop though11:14
godzeroJava_the_Hutt: sudo kcontrol, etc... the way that kde does root doesn't work with kubuntu11:15
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Java_the_Huttubuntu + kubuntu-desktop screwed up my gnome11:15
sampanjava_the_hutt   dare i say: that's no big loss! ;)11:15
godzeroarg, kdesu kcontrol11:16
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_Tonio_Java_the_Hutt: but I agree to the fact that it would maybe have been better to wait a few days before releasing and ask for help and contribution on systemsettings debugging....11:16
godzeroI am the proud owner of 1,000,00 brain farts.11:16
_Tonio_having bugs is not a problem, but it concerns the main administration tool......11:17
godzeroIt's a suprise everytime I tie my shoes correctly11:17
Java_the_Hutt_Tonio_: yeah thats more than a bug in dead11:17
godzeroagreed11:18
_Tonio_Java_the_Hutt: that's a major issue.... and the problem is that appart from that kubuntu is a must have to me....11:18
sampandoes it happen on upgrades from hoary-->breezy ?  or only on fresh installs?11:18
godzeroall11:18
_Tonio_anyway, there are not many, many people contributing to this....11:18
Java_the_HuttAlso kubuntu offers KDE 3.5 installation in its main page. What a big mistak11:18
helpmewhat is that command fix dpi 75 or something to fix large windows & icons?11:18
_Tonio_bugs have been reported, so, because of opensource philosophy, if you know potential developpers that can correct this bug ;)11:19
Java_the_HuttKDE 3.5 for kubuntu is practically not usable because it has no sound11:19
_Tonio_I'm sure the Kubutu crew would be happy to push a correcting package in breezy updates11:19
godzeroJava_the_Hutt: that's news, not install11:19
Java_the_Huttand you offer it from your main web site11:19
Tm_TJava_the_Hutt: err11:19
sampani think i wrote a couple simple BASIC programs for my atari iie about 25 years ago -- am i a potential developer?11:19
Tm_TJava_the_Hutt: I use KDE 3.5b2 with sounds11:19
Java_the_Huttgodzero: it encourages it. It never says be careful or so11:19
_Tonio_helpme: concerning the DPI 75, edit kdmrc11:20
Java_the_HuttTm_T: there's arts crashing11:20
Tm_TJava_the_Hutt: I don't use arts11:20
Java_the_Huttagain a work around then11:20
godzero"beta" says be carefull, does it not?11:20
Tm_Tyu11:20
helpme_Tonio_: how??11:20
Tm_Tgodzero: yes11:20
_Tonio_helpme: wait a second11:20
Tm_Tgodzero: but most of the time KDE beta releases are so good that people expect they always are11:21
Java_the_Huttgodzero: my personal opinion that page encourages. I just installed and reinstalled my whole OS. May be i am stupid to do it. But i am not alone11:21
godzeroI guess that's possable, but not *my* experience on breezy/3.5b211:22
Tm_Tto me, beta2 is awesome <3<311:22
Tm_Tno way I'm downgrading11:22
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Tm_Tbtw Ktorrent 1.2 is cool11:23
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godzerobeta2 has been a pain in the a$$11:23
_Tonio_helpme: edit kdmrc with this command : sudo kwrite /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc11:24
_Tonio_helpme: then search for this :11:24
_Tonio_ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp11:24
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_Tonio_and add "-dpi 100"11:24
_Tonio_helpme: that will force dpi 100 instead of dpi 7511:24
godzeroKtorrentr looks good, I'm stuck on 1.0.. did you compile it?11:25
pointwoodTm_T: ktorrent 1.2? link? what's new? I'm using kde3.5beta2 and got 1.0...11:25
pointwoodlots of questions :)11:25
helpme_Tonio_: thanks a lot:)11:25
_Tonio_helpme: no pb, don't forget to restart X after that11:25
helpmeokie11:26
Tm_Tpointwood: link is... svn11:26
helpme_Tonio_: opera is running....can i restart x without closing opera?11:26
naliothktorrent 1.2? wow i just got 1.1 the other day11:26
_Tonio_helpme: no11:26
Tm_Tnalioth: devel stuff11:26
Tm_T;)11:26
Tm_Tgodzero: compiled from trunk sources11:27
naliothTm_T: i'll have to go and look for the cvs link11:27
Tm_Tnalioth: you mean svn11:27
helpmeim downloading ubuntu iso with opera...188mb done...should i proceed? or use torrent app or something? which would be faster?11:27
naliothTm_T: i'm sorry i dont keep up with what project uses svn cvs or some other system. you got the point11:28
Tm_Thttp://ktorrent.pwsp.net/index.php?page=faq11:28
_Tonio_helpme: wait for the end..........; is that an emergency ,11:28
_Tonio_?11:28
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hussam!skype11:30
ubotuskype is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free, or breezy debs: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl11:30
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pointwoodnice...a lot has certainly happened between 1.0 and 1.111:32
helpme_Tonio_: end of download? i want ubuntu rigth away:)11:33
helpmeits taking long time.....at 25kbps11:33
godzeroJava_the_Hutt: to answer yor qestion about "why should I recommend linux/kububtu": One anecdodel answer wold be waht I did today, I mixed some CDs together for a friend, that she couldn't do under windows.. after spending an extra $50 on some "cd coping" software.11:34
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godzeroIt's not like windows is not with out it's bugs, nor is it capable of doing exen the most basic of tasks11:35
Java_the_Huttok thx but i did not ask such a question11:35
Java_the_Hutti said i can not recommend kubuntu with such a major issue11:36
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godzeroI understand (I think), the admin button works under mandrake (last time I used it), why not under kubuntu? I agree it's a prob11:38
godzerobut then again, I'm not one of those who think k)ubuntu is for newbees11:39
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sampanwhen i try to configure ktorrent ... i get: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!11:44
sampani have no idea what that means 11:44
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godzerox dev?11:45
sampani dunno ... i have no clue (very first time trying to compile something)11:45
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godzerosampan: gotta setup alot befor you compile stuff, mostly you need the *-dev stuff.. that tells the compiler how to use the library, or kernel, etc11:50
sampanyeah, i googled -- looks like a bunch of downloads :) wheeeeee11:51
sampanno biggie -- only have to download it all once i hope11:52
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sampanwheeeeeeee now the qt11:53
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godzerog'night all11:55
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kairu0hey12:08
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Java_the_HuttCouldn't find package java-package12:14
Java_the_HuttHello i am trying to install JDK 1.5 but 12:14
Java_the_Hutti got the above massege while installing the java-package12:14
Java_the_Huttseems like a repo problem12:14
_Tonio_Java_the_Hutt: did you activate the multiverse repository12:15
Java_the_HuttI think so hold on12:16
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Java_the_Huttoh i thought i did but forgot to apply12:17
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bdmpCan anyone tell me how to fix this error so I can install skype? "The following packages have unmet dependencies:01:27
bdmp  skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed01:27
bdmpE: Broken packages01:27
bdmp"01:27
Kamping_Kaiserget the version thats staticaly compiled01:28
bdmpHow would I do that? I don't really understand what "staticaly compiled" means.01:28
Kamping_Kaiserdownload the deb from skype which is largest basicly ;)01:29
Kamping_Kaiseri dont use it, so im not sure what one to download exactly01:29
Kamping_Kaiser!skype01:29
ubotuI heard skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free, or breezy debs: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl01:29
bdmpThanks01:30
kairu0hey all01:35
Kinomeeswhat to do if my nvidia installer complains that no sources etc can be found01:36
bdmpThat faq says to download skype and the package libqt3c102-mt which is what I did before and brings me back to my original question.01:36
Kinomeesthey are installed 01:36
Kinomeesotherwise i do everything like in HOWTO01:36
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TheSwani try to use mozilla-thunderbird and it doesn't recognize me .thunderbird folder01:38
Kinomeesbdmp, try force version01:40
TheSwanme - my01:41
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TheSwanto the people who just signed in, i try to use mozilla-thunderbird and it doesn't recognize my .thunderbird folder01:49
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jbasilioanyone know how to clean up lost+found in the menues?  mine is HUGE!01:58
aftertafkmenuedit and put em elsewhere01:58
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TheSwanto the people who just signed in, i try to use mozilla-thunderbird and it doesn't recognize my .thunderbird folder02:04
Kinomeescheck your preferences ... there should be folders section02:05
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onurHello  i am having serious problems with my kubuntu02:06
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Videhi02:07
icewtonur: what problems?02:07
VideI can't install flashplayer-mozilla on my kubuntu breezy system02:07
onurCurrently when i try to get into adept , it says "the adept database will be opened in read only mode"02:07
onuri can not do anything with adept02:08
Videi'm getting this error02:08
VidePreconfiguring packages ...02:08
Vide(Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gsfonts-x11_0.17ubuntu3_all.deb (--unpack):02:08
Vide files list file for package `kdemultimedia-kio-plugins' is missing final newline02:08
VideErrors were encountered while processing:02:08
Videany idea?02:08
icewtonur: what if you try "kdesu adept" ?02:08
onursame02:08
onuri can not use adept02:09
onurmy konqueror gives out  "unknown host"  errors %20 of the time02:09
onurand the well known systemsettings administrator mode bug02:10
Videno one having problems with the flash plugin for mozilla?02:10
icewtwell, of course it would be good to get adept to work, but you don't need it to install/upgrade stuff02:10
raphinkhow about another browser onur ?02:10
TheSwanKinomees, where are the folder preferences listed?02:10
onurfirefox works fine02:10
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aitorneed some help 02:11
raphinkhow are you connected to the internet onur ?02:11
onuricewt: come on i have installed kubuntu 4 times today02:11
icewtonur: have you tried to run dist-upgrade? there seems to be updates to many kde-packages02:11
raphinko_O02:11
onurthrough a DSL modem, i have changed my location02:11
aitorKdm won't boot, but startx goes with no problem02:11
onuri mean with several different modems, still the sme02:11
aitorsomeone knows why?02:12
onurdpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.02:12
onurt says02:12
KinomeesTheSwan, mess around with the preferences window and its tabs ... you should find it ... if not ... find tunderirds conf file and look there02:12
onuri mean it is strange, most people seems happy with their kubuntu, where as i am having hard time here02:14
onurthe konqueror  thing is very annoying02:14
aitorsyslog output is 02:15
aitorOct 21 14:08:03 localhost kdm_config[16044] : Unrecognized key 'UseLilo' in secti02:15
aitoron [Shutdown]  at /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc:1202:15
aitorOct 21 14:08:07 localhost kdm: :0[16046] : IO Error in XOpenDisplay02:15
aitorOct 21 14:08:07 localhost kdm[16043] : Display :0 cannot be opened02:15
aitorOct 21 14:08:07 localhost kdm[16043] : Unable to fire up local display :0; disabl02:15
aitoring.02:15
aitorsorry for the flooding02:15
onurdpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.02:15
onursorry02:16
onurAnother question,  i am having a lot of  "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://tr.archive.ubuntu..." error messages while using adept or apt-get why ?02:16
onurAnyone there ?02:18
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raphinkonur: seems there is a pb with this repo02:21
onurcan anyone suggest me a working sources.list file for kubuntu breezy ?02:22
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TheSwanok, fyi, it appears the thunderbird team changed the location of the mail. it is now .mozilla-thunderbird. I had to delete my extensions, and also rename my .thunderbird folder. All is well.02:23
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raphinkI use the fr one onur 02:23
raphinkwhat country are you in?02:24
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aftertafonur, remove the tr. in front of all lines.02:25
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endo602anyone up02:25
endo602for some reason when the system calls me to enter the root password02:25
raphinkyep02:25
endo602after i enter it wont let me axx options02:26
endo602raphink02:26
endo602i got the system up02:26
aftertafendo602:  put your pw, not root pw.02:26
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raphinkwhat do you mean endo602 ?02:26
raphinkyou never need your root passwd endo602 02:27
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onurmy sources list file is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/340302:28
endo602i mean my password02:28
raphinkubuntu uses sudo by default02:28
endo602still wont give me the option02:28
endo602i know02:28
endo602i need to manual change my network interface02:28
raphinkendo602: where ?02:28
endo602but alas i cannot go under administrator mode02:29
endo602network settings > system settings02:29
raphinkonur: what is tr btw ?02:29
aitor does any of you know how is it possible kdm won't work but startx does work?02:29
manveru_endo602: if you really want to become root 'sudo su root' does the job02:29
raphinkendo602: try kdesu kcontrol02:29
raphinkmanveru_: sudo su 02:30
manveru_ah, yeah :)02:30
raphinkis enough02:30
manveru_i'm only used to use usernames in su02:30
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onurTurkey  i suppose02:30
raphinkok 02:30
raphink:)02:30
endo602raphink 02:31
manveru_the problem with the network-menu is btw that the 'get superuser' option is on the bottom02:31
endo602it just hangs02:31
manveru_you have to make the window fullscreen to see them02:31
raphinkendo602: doesnt ask for your passwd?02:31
endo602nope02:31
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raphinksure the box to ask passw is not under your window?02:31
raphinkonur: run apt-setup02:32
endo602positive02:32
raphinkand choose sources from other countries02:32
raphinkhmmm02:32
raphinkendo 02:32
raphinkps x | grep kcontrol02:32
raphinkwhat do you get?02:32
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endo6027564 pts/8    R+ 0:00 grep kcontrol02:33
raphinkok02:34
raphinknow02:34
raphinksudo ps x | grep kcontrol02:34
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onurraphink: then what02:34
raphinkthen choose your sources onur 02:34
endo602ok02:35
onurraphink: there comes a CD Scanner and no more02:35
endo602it said enter password02:35
endo602so i did02:35
endo602now what02:35
raphinkyour own pass endo602, not the root pass02:35
endo602yes02:35
raphinkok02:35
endo602my own02:35
raphinkand you got nothing?02:35
endo602i got the command prompt02:35
raphinkok02:35
draskoHi. Where I can find good book about Ubuntu or Debian?02:36
manveru_amazon.com02:36
raphinkon amazon drasko ? 02:36
raphinkmanveru_:  ;)02:36
raphinkendo602: sudo kcontrol &02:36
manveru_never bought one...02:36
raphinkme neither02:36
raphinknever bought a linux book02:36
raphinkever02:36
manveru_i once bought one about perl... does that count?02:36
raphinkcould be interesting02:37
raphinkhehe02:37
raphinkbought once some linux magazines, does that count too manveru_ ?02:37
manveru_and the suse-manuals... they are almost the size of a book02:37
manveru_^^02:37
aftertafdrasko:  good book? not many.... best is wiki & net pages, and getting your own doc. things differ between distros02:37
manveru_especially since ubuntu is moving that fast... it would be an outdated book when it comes out02:38
manveru_debian woody might have some...02:38
draskoThanks, but I want to download some free book as pdf, since here in Serbia there is no way to pay outside, just in my country.02:38
endo602what should my primary group be02:39
endo602raphink can i pm?02:39
aftertafdrasko:  can be done via mule, but its nonfree ;)02:39
raphinksure endo602 02:39
endo602check pm02:39
manveru_drasko: i don't think there is a book about ubuntu yet02:39
raphinkwhat do you want to learn drasko ?02:40
raphinkusage, programming, administration?02:40
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draskoWell, administration is my main occupation.02:41
raphinkok02:41
aftertafa bok on that should exist. or a good howto on the net.02:41
manveru_so start with the shell?02:41
raphinkhow about that drasko http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals ?02:42
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aftertaf!cli02:42
uboturumour has it, cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/02:42
manveru_http://www.kofler.cc/ubuntu.html02:42
manveru_wow02:42
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manveru_there _is_ a book02:42
raphink:)02:43
raphinkdrasko: there's this too http://ubuntuguide.org/02:44
draskoThanks, I will check links right now.02:46
raphinksome rehubbing they said02:48
raphink...02:48
Kamping_Kaiserlol02:48
Kamping_Kaiserhope the networks back together in time for the meeting02:48
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raphinkwhat meeting?02:48
raphinkwb everybody02:48
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Kamping_Kaiserraphink: ubuntu-doc02:49
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raphinkyeah it's finished :)02:49
raphinkubuntu-doc ?02:49
raphinkhere?02:49
Kamping_Kaiseryay02:49
Kamping_Kaiserno, not here :P02:49
raphinkon #ubuntu-doc?02:49
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Kamping_Kaiserraphink: #ubuntu-meeting02:50
Kamping_Kaiserits not for another hour02:50
raphinkok02:50
Kamping_Kaiserbut freenode have been know to take that long to 'rehub'02:50
raphinkwhat is it be to about?02:50
Kamping_Kaiserdont know :|02:50
raphinklol02:50
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Kamping_Kaisergeneral stuff. im going for the first time, so im finding out ;)02:50
raphinkok02:50
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eysemanhi @ll.02:59
eysemanhat mal jemand n moment zeit?02:59
aftertaf!de02:59
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe02:59
Riddell #kubuntu-de too03:00
eysemanoh sorry for that.03:00
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eysemanthx. bye03:00
eysemanah damn no one there03:00
eysemancan someone help me here with a little dual screen problem?03:01
aftertafeyseman:  's ok... but i dont speak any .de at all..... :/03:01
manveru_eyseman: it is #kubuntu.de right?03:03
manveru_oh, no03:03
manveru_eyseman: however, i speak german and i'm on #kubuntu-de now if that helps you :)03:04
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luminosoplease, where can i find repositories for kubuntu 5.10?03:21
jjesseluminoso: just change your /etc/sources.list to breezy from hoary03:21
Kamping_Kaiser!repositories03:21
ubotusources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)03:21
psilvaI'm having some problems with kubuntu and ltsp, can anybody help me?03:21
luminosothanks!!!03:21
luminosobreezy === 5.10?03:22
Kamping_Kaiseryep03:22
luminosothanks03:22
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Java_the_HuttHello i have some connection problems with Konqueror, can anyone help ?03:25
manveru_Java_the_Hutt: what do you want to connect?03:27
Java_the_HuttI make an experiment. I type a keyword like "apple" in google. And open the first ten links in new tabs03:28
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Java_the_Huttwhen i do this with konqueror in 6 or 7 of the links i encounter uknown host error03:28
Java_the_Huttwhen i do this with firefox i encounter only 1 with unkown host03:28
Java_the_Huttwhat could be the problem ?03:28
manveru_hmm03:28
manveru_what's your dns?03:28
Kamping_Kaisercan anyone see anything realy wrong with this find statement? it says it has nothing to execute03:28
Kamping_Kaiser find ./ -type d -exec du -hs{}03:28
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Tm_Tthat level3 issuea may affect atleast couple days03:34
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kkathmangood morning all (at least here its morning) :)03:43
endo602can someone help me set up my wireless netwrok?03:43
kkathman!tell endo602 about wireless03:45
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kkathman!tell endo602 about ndiswrapper03:45
kkathmancheck your pms endo602 :)03:46
kkathman!tell me about javadeb03:46
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endo602is that the only way03:47
endo602because last night i had it working fine03:47
endo602be enabling the network interface03:47
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aitorhi03:51
aitorcan any of you help me?03:51
aitorI can't make kdm work03:51
aitoreven though startx works fine03:51
aitorgdm won't work, neither03:52
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Kejk_PLHi, how to chacge font in gstremer sublitle? I mean code page and size (pattern too)?? I am using kaffeine and subtibles are without Polish chars...04:00
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puckmanI have not said it for 2 days in here so here goes.04:03
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puckmanHa that feels better.04:04
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:04
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puckmanhey, does anyone know how to move mail between Thunderbird and Kmail?04:05
puckmanI quickly looked but the mailbox formats look different04:05
aitorcan any of u help me with my kdm problem?04:06
aitorkubuntu breezy04:06
endo602my driver works fine04:06
endo602just when i enable my interface it automatically disables04:07
aitorkdm won't work, even though startx does :(04:07
endo602i know it works fine because i used the wireless last night without any drivers04:07
aitorpuzzles me :(04:07
unsurrealaitor: does this happen when you reboot04:07
aitoryes, I've rebooted a couple of times today and it happens04:07
aitorupdated last week from hoary to breezy04:08
unsurrealhm04:08
unsurrealI could probly help you, but oi dont have time right now04:08
unsurrealpm me04:08
aitorno problem04:08
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endo602how can i bring up kcontrol04:13
Java_the_Huttkdesy kcontrol04:14
Java_the_Huttendo602: kdsu kcontrol04:14
endo602right04:14
Java_the_Huttkdesu04:16
Java_the_Huttsimple word, two typos, strange04:16
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endo602that only thing missing for my network card is local ip04:22
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supernixOk what is the current url for backports ?04:24
Kamping_Kaiserbackports for what? ask ubotu04:24
supernixkubuntu04:25
Kamping_Kaiser!backports04:25
Kamping_Kaiser!tell supernix about backports04:25
supernixty Kamping_Kaiser 04:26
endo602how come my usb drive wont work?04:29
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satafterhwe have back ports for breezy now??04:36
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Kamping_Kaiserno04:37
stupendo44Is there any way to make it so if I click on a file, it will show the complete (however long) filename?04:37
apokryphossatafterh: only breezy-updates, afaik04:38
apokryphosKamping_Kaiser: so, I didn't know -- you on the doc team? What kind of stuff you done? :)04:41
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Kamping_Kaiserapokryphos: just going to join04:41
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:41
Kamping_Kaiseriv been around the chan for a few weeks. 04:41
apokryphosoh ok, cool04:41
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Kamping_Kaiseri want to start doing stuff04:41
Kamping_Kaiser:S04:41
apokryphosnice04:41
apokryphosright in time for dapper04:42
Kamping_Kaiseryep04:42
satafterh#apokryphos - updates are good, well after fighting will my computer for days after installing kde betes i decided to do a clean install, now its works ten times better than after i upgraded from 5.04, I guess clean install is the way to go. Kubuntu is now a pleasure to use, and enabling DMA made a big diffrance to. love this dosto04:42
Kamping_Kaiserthats the hope :)04:42
endo602what i do a make install04:42
endo602it doesnt work04:43
endo602when04:43
endo602*04:43
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ca5s4vaalo everyone 04:47
ca5s4vai saw lot of nice bootsplash theme for splashy 04:48
ca5s4vawhen i want to install splashy it is mention that usplash and kubuntu-desktop will be removed04:48
ca5s4vaso how i install splashy 04:49
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stupendo44kubuntu-desktop is removed whenever one of it's pieces is removed. And since usplash is part of kubuntu-desktop, it will be removed. This is not destructive, it doesn't remove the whole installation.04:52
stupendo44if you read the description for kubuntu-desktop, you may understand more clearly04:52
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asranielquestion, i got a correct dsdt file for my laptop, do i realy have to recompile the kernel or is there another way?04:55
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endo602what is the make command04:56
endo602?04:56
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ca5s4vamr stupendo44 04:57
ca5s4vado u use splashy?04:58
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ca5s4vaactually splashy is under debian repository 04:58
ca5s4vais it safe to be included in kubuntu ?04:58
strike4ceHow do I back up my xorg.conf?04:58
strike4ceHow do I back up my xorg.conf?04:59
strike4ceHow do I back up my xorg.conf?05:00
icewtis there something like gdesklets for kde?05:00
strike4ceHow do I back up my xorg.conf?05:01
Whistlerstrike4ce sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old05:01
apokryphosstrike4ce: stop being annoying05:01
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strike4cei thought this was the place to come for answers but no one answers questions05:01
apokryphosstrike4ce: this is the place to come with questions; not the place to flood the channel05:02
apokryphosjjesse: so is it just you and froud now on kubuntu docs?05:03
strike4ceI come here everyday and get the same bullshit.  I wasnt flooding the channel hardly05:03
jjesseapokryphos: it looks that way, w/ some help from jsgontaco05:03
Tm_Tstrike4ce: shortly said: here's many people who are doing their best to asnwer questions, so be patient and polit ;)05:04
Tm_Tstrike4ce: and no, repeating question allthetime is not a good idea05:04
strike4ceThen how is my quaetion going to be answered?05:04
Tm_Tdamn, can't type well anymore, I think I need some coffee to get my head straight05:04
Tm_Tstrike4ce: patient05:05
strike4ceI did that command in terminal and nothing happens05:05
ca5s4vayes mr strike4ce05:05
Tm_Tstrike4ce: it does happened05:05
ca5s4vawe are here to share knowledge05:05
strike4celol05:05
Tm_Tstrike4ce: it doesn't return a thing if all went well05:05
strike4cesorry guys im just loosing patience with this05:06
Tm_Tstrike4ce: try this: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf*05:06
Tm_Tstrike4ce: see noe that _old file?05:06
strike4ceTm_T: ok I need to put it somewhere that I can find it easily05:06
Tm_Tnow05:06
Tm_Tstrike4ce: well, just move it anywhere05:06
strike4cetm05:06
Tm_Tmv <source> <destination>05:07
ca5s4vabackup file ....  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old05:07
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strike4ceTm_T: where is it now? lol05:07
apokryphosstrike4ce: no, you *were* flooding the channel. Asking the same question repeatedly is annoying and, surprise, a close enough definition of flooding.05:07
stupendo44ca5s4va: sorry, I was away. If it's in the repository, it should be safe. I haven't used it, so I don't know05:07
strike4ceapokryphos: go away05:07
Tm_Tstrike4ce: where I mentioned it is05:07
Tm_T /etc/X11/ dir05:07
strike4ceTm_T: im totally new to this.  I have no idea what that means is that a file?05:08
apokryphosstrike4ce: yeah, sure I will.05:08
Tm_Tstrike4ce: directory/folder05:08
Tm_Tstrike4ce: btw apokryphos is one of hte best of us, so he's the one who you should be polite with05:08
Tm_Tstrike4ce: smell tip for ya ;)05:09
Tm_Tsmall05:09
Tm_Tdamn!05:09
Tm_Tcoffee NOW! ->05:09
Kamping_Kaiserlool05:09
strike4ceTm_T: i was trying to05:09
Tm_Tstrike4ce: try harder, coffee, seriously ->05:09
strike4ceTm_T: i've been in this channel over and over and no answers05:09
stupendo44strike4ce: for the same issue?05:10
strike4ceanything05:10
strike4ceapokryphos: Sorry05:11
Tm_Tuuhhh, better05:11
Tm_Tstrike4ce: well, I've been here about a half year now05:12
apokryphosstrike4ce: what are you trying to do? Backup xorg.conf?05:12
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Tm_Tstrike4ce: sometimes I get abswers, most of the time I give asnwers... but even I can't follow every discussion05:12
Tm_T..05:12
Tm_Tno, still can't type well05:12
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Tm_TI will come back later then ->05:13
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Gingillohow to listen @mp3s?05:13
ca5s4vaamarok05:13
strike4cei want to install the ATI driver05:13
stupendo44Gingillo: I believe it's gstreamer-mad you want to install05:13
Gingilloyes, but i think i need some libraries05:13
GingilloStupendo so ita05:13
strike4ceI want to put it in a place that I can find easily cuz this is all new for me05:14
Gingillostupendo44: i can't listen my mp3 files, why??05:14
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stupendo44Gingillo: have you installed gstreamer-mad?05:16
apokryphosstrike4ce: have you been following the instructions on the wiki?05:17
strike4ceyes05:17
apokryphosGingillo: check the faq in kubuntu.org05:18
apokryphosstrike4ce: so then you wouldn't be installing anything to specific locations...05:19
strike4cecan anyone here diect to that wiki file?05:19
strike4cedirect05:19
Gingilloapokryphos: i installed  k3b-mp3 and restarted amarok, but it don't works! (My audio card works ok, i listen the crash sounds XD)05:19
stupendo44k3b-mp3 is for k3b, the burning program05:19
GingilloOh!05:20
dipnliktrying to use mutt to access my imap folder, mutt -f imap://imap.mandic.com.br/ , using my login and pw it returns login failed. any ideas?05:20
strike4cewhen I run glxgears it says could'nt open display (NULL)05:20
stupendo44Gingillo: you didn't answer my earlier question05:20
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apokryphosGingillo: nothing to do with k3b thing05:21
apokryphosstrike4ce: if you can, highlight me so I don't miss your message ;-)05:21
apokryphos!ati05:22
ubotuI heard ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1005:22
Gingillostupendo44: Gingillo: have you installed gstreamer-mad? no, i didnt. Sorry 05:22
stupendo44Gingillo: try that05:22
apokryphosGingillo: gstreamer0.8-mad and akode-mpeg05:23
Gingillook i did05:23
Gingillothx :*05:23
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stupendo44If I want to try kde 3.5b2, is it easy to go back?05:24
_mariux[4307090.116000]  usb 4-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 <- what now? shouldnt it give it a devicename aswell?05:24
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_mariuxstupendo44: i was just wondering the same05:24
nikkiastupendo44: no, and many people have reported problems05:24
stupendo44hm, darn05:24
_mariuxi can report problems too05:24
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nikkiastupendo44: as with most betas, its really not recommended unless you REALLY know what you're doing05:25
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=== Toxix my amaroK playing: System Of A Down - B.Y.O.B
icewterr.. nice. away messages, away nicks and now playing scripts05:30
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endo602anyone know how to configure a uSB drive (pen drive)05:34
endo602?05:34
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GingilloHi, how to see my usb pen? is it linked to my pc? what must i do?05:38
JuerdGingillo: System button (in the button bar, left of the task bar), then Media05:38
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Gingilloi see only my floppy drive :|05:39
uwehussam! hus ?05:39
hussamuwe: ?05:40
uweum, well, thought you might be someone i know!05:40
hussamuwe: oh ok05:40
GingilloJuerd: i see only my floppy drive!!!!05:41
uwewell, nice to meet you! been using kubuntu for sometime now?05:41
hussamuwe: since May05:42
uwegreat! so i guess you can tell me how good ar support is! cant you05:42
hussamGingillo: if under media:/ in breezy, that's a know bug05:43
Gingilloso?05:43
Gingillohussam: so i can't view my usb pen?05:43
hussamuwe: it has sone really minor, but it's pretty stable05:43
uwehussam, i didnt understand what you mean! is the support minimal ?05:44
hussamGingillo: check if it is mounted under /media or /mnt , not sure05:44
hussamuwe: there's good community support. check ubuntuforums.org and kubuntuforums.net05:45
fk6hussam: hi, i am also here in ramallah, we want to use it for the PNA and are considering to make it the official distribution for the governemnt. feel free to join at #pslug :)05:45
Gingillohussam: it isn't05:45
hussamuwe: oh sorry I meant some minort bugs in media:/05:45
JuerdGingillo: Then you will either have to wait for an upgrade that fixes the problem, or to learn how to mount the device manually.05:46
fk6hussam: are you using it fully arabized?05:46
hussamfk6: what's PNA?05:46
hussamfk6: I'm egyptian but I live in Lebanon05:46
fk6hussam: Palestinian National Authorotaaa(south park speak)05:47
hussamfk6: if that's what you are asking05:47
hussamfk6: i'll msg you05:47
GingilloJuerd: Where can i leart how to mount a device manually?05:48
JuerdGingillo: I have no idea if there is a tutorial online, but if you want, I can guide you through it here05:48
JuerdGingillo: It's rather technical, but not at all hard.05:48
_mariuxmount -t <filesystem> /dev/<devicename> /mnt/<foldertomountitat> -o rw,uid=<usernamethatshouldownthefolder>05:49
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Juerd_mariux: rw is default, isn't it?05:49
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_mariuxi use it to be 100% sure05:49
Juerd_mariux: Also, the filesystem is autodetected in almost all cases.05:49
GingilloJuerd: ok, Join the channel #HelpGingillo , there is too much noise05:50
_mariuxyes05:50
_mariuxmostly05:50
_mariux:)05:50
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bobesponjadoes breezy ship with digikam and kdevelop or do I need to get it through universe?05:51
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_mariuxi just got it via apt05:53
_mariuxit wasnt default not (kubuntu)05:54
_mariux*no05:54
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Eno_why would the sun java firefox plugin be crashing firefox?05:58
endoraphink05:58
Eno_i installed it using java-package05:58
raphinkyes endo?05:58
endoone sec05:58
satafterhI had a problem with video sync with audio, I enabled dma and it seems to have fixed the problem, thought others may want to try if they have the same problem05:58
endoi am going to see if i can log into my bnc through this client05:58
guldoes anyone know if the new OpenOffice2 will be available for Kubuntu 5.04?05:59
Eno_openoffice2 is already in kubuntu06:00
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_mariuxthe final oo.org 2?06:00
Kamping_Kaisergul: it wont be. it may be in backports (usual disclaimers apply)06:00
_mariuxi hate it when the distros are holding back new stuff06:01
Eno_...06:01
gulhow long time may it take before it becomes available as a backport?06:01
Kamping_Kaiser_mariux: 5.04 is stable. to add oo.o2 to it might break the stability. 5.10 has 2beta, as of about 2 weeks before realease06:01
Kamping_Kaisergul: few days to a week or so06:02
GingilloJuerd Helped me, He was very firendly. Thanks Juerd :)06:02
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satafterhwould write-cachebe ok to enable on my wd160 gig hd?06:11
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Kamping_Kaisershould be06:12
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satafterhwhat does this mean in realation to hd keepsettings =  0 (off?06:14
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satafterhis hda my harddrive?06:24
Kamping_Kaisersatafterh: its your primary master device06:25
Kamping_Kaiserit could be a hdd or a cdrom06:25
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satafterh#Kamping_Kaiser cd?? i have this info geometry     = 19457/255/63, sectors = 312581808, start = 006:26
satafterhhd?06:26
Kamping_Kaiserthen yes, thats your hard drive06:26
Kamping_Kaisermy hard drive is hdb06:26
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satafterh#Kamping_Kaiser- any reson for the differance between sysstems?06:27
JuerdKamping_Kaiser: Because hdd is the secondary slave, I recommend using "hd" instea :)06:27
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Juerdinstead06:27
satafterhyou have 2 harddrive?06:28
Kamping_KaiserJuerd: my hdd died, i can only boot it primary slave :)06:28
Kamping_Kaiserit used tobe primary master :O06:28
endo6O2raphink06:28
endo6O2how do i tell whether it changed?06:28
Juerdsatafterh: "keepsettings", when on, resets settings on hardware resets.06:28
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Juerdsatafterh: Because hardware resets happen on hardware failures, and these failures can be caused by wrong settings, enabling keepsettings is potentially dangerous.06:28
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Juerd18:32 < Juerd> satafterh: "keepsettings", when on, resets settings on hardware resets.06:29
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JuerdThere, the first resets means: sets again06:29
speedysomebody here who knows how to get the metabar in konqueror running / visible?06:30
satafterhdev/hda {06:30
satafterhmult_sect_io = 1606:30
satafterhwrite_cache = on06:30
satafterhdma = on06:30
Juerdspeedy: Metabar? Is that what you get when you press F9?06:30
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Juerdwie: wie ben jij?06:31
Juerd(open deur)06:31
satafterh#Juerd - can you look at these setting for my hd and tell me if there right06:31
wiehoi ik ben wie 06:31
wieehm roltux06:31
wiehoi zit ik hier in een nederlands talige kubuntu channel06:31
Juerdsatafterh: Whether they are right depends on your hard drive. For most modern hard drives, they're fine.06:31
Juerdwie: No06:31
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_mariuxschipper mag ich overfaren ja of nei06:32
wiekee i understand but you are dutch 06:32
Juerdwie: But this question wouldn't be as funny in English :)06:32
JuerdI'm Dutch, yes06:32
wieehm Juerd could i ask you something 06:32
Juerdwie: Yes06:32
wieehm kee i just installed kubuntu but nowhere it ask me to supply the root password 06:33
raphinkdet is niet een nerderlandse channel ;)06:33
raphinkhehe06:33
wielol 06:33
Juerdwie: It does not use a root password.06:33
wiewhy not 06:33
Juerdwie: You can set one, but are advised not to do so06:33
wiehow do i become root 06:33
raphinkalsjeblift spreken in english06:33
_mariuxsudo commando06:34
Juerdwie: sudo command 06:34
raphinklol06:34
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raphinkj/k06:34
Juerdwie: That runs command as root06:34
Juerdwie: If you need a root shell, run: sudo bash06:34
Juerdwie: sudo asks for a password. Type your own password.06:34
Juerdwie: It will give you access for 15 minutes.06:34
wiekee cool system 06:34
wiewell its been a long time since i have used linu 06:34
Juerdwie: It's usually better to use single commands as root06:35
wiebut things turned pretty good i must say 06:35
Ben_UKHi.  Has anyone else had trouble gettings khotkeys to work (in Breezy)?06:35
speedyjuerd: ah there it is, kewl - I did'nt know that you can activate it with F9, where I find it in the menu (did'nt found it there)?06:35
Juerdspeedy: It was removed from the menu.06:35
speedyjuerd: why? *wondering*06:35
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_mariuxWhy does not this work? The folder /mnt/samba gets "no permissions" even when i run "sudo ls /mnt/samba".....  sudo smbmount //192.168.0.2/media /mnt/samba -o username=mariux,password=,uid=mariux,rw06:36
Juerdspeedy: I do not know.06:36
_mariuxi'vr tried it in konqueror and the ip, username and pass should work06:36
_mariuxi just want to mount it so that every app can use it and not just kde06:36
speedyjuerd: ok, thx - I will be back soon, ciao06:37
Juerdspeedy: Bye06:37
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wiebrb 06:38
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lippel__hi. anyone using kde 3.5 beta2 packages?06:41
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Ben_UKHi.  Anyone able to report khotkeys working (or not!) on Breezy?06:46
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_mariuxsure it works06:58
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Java_the_HuttHow can i install Java SDK 1.5 ?07:06
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Sonny_Wertzikhello.07:10
Sonny_WertzikDoes anyone know what the name of the login screen config file is called in KDE? I need to edit the resolution, its to big.07:10
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whoiam55Sonny_Wertzik: type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 07:11
Sonny_Wertzikwhoiam55, ya i was gonna do that as a last resort07:12
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whoiam55ok then edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file07:12
whoiam55but using dpkg is easy07:12
whoiam55in my thinking :P07:12
Sonny_Wertzikwhoiam55, which line controls the login screen only07:13
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whoiam55I don't know what you mean, 07:13
kkathmanhello all :)07:13
Sonny_Wertzikhi07:13
kkathmanhow are things going with everyone?07:14
whoiam55is your login resolution is differ from your desktop resolution ?07:14
whoiam55anyone know how can I restart my network so I can get IP from DHCP server ?07:14
Sonny_Wertzikwhoiam55, there are resolution variable for each depth but i dont see anything in xorg for login scrren resolution...just desktop resolutions07:15
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Sonny_Wertzikwhoiam55, ya my res is diff than my desktop07:15
kkathmanSonny_Wertzik: thats right...only one07:15
Sonny_Wertzikmy res is diff than my desktop07:15
kkathmanthe console resolution is always the same I think07:15
symbuloshi there07:15
Sonny_Wertzikkkathman, hehe i wish hehe07:15
kkathmanthen when you invoke X and the GUI manager, that sets your screen resolution much the same way Windows does.07:16
Sonny_Wertzikin fact i dont even have that choice res in desktop07:16
symbulosdoes anyone have an idea where we can find the very first Ubuntu wallpaper? 07:16
kkathmanYes you should have that setting in your KDE 07:16
whoiam55anyone know how can I restart my network so I can get IP from DHCP server ?07:17
kkathmanwhoiam55: Have you just tried rebooting?07:17
Sonny_Wertzikkkathman, i mean the lgin is 1800x1440   that doesnt exist  for a desktop res in my KDE display selections07:18
whoiam55kkathman: I don't want to reboot :( that's the problem07:18
whoiam55it's silly to reboot if I forgot to connect cable to my laptop07:18
kkathman!tell whoiam55 about network-manager07:19
kkathmancheck that PM whoiam55 see if that helps07:19
Java_the_HuttHow can i enable multiverse ?07:19
whoiam55kkathman: lemme check07:19
whoiam55Java_the_Hutt: you are in breezy ?07:19
Java_the_Huttyes07:19
whoiam55multiverse for breezy are not up yet07:20
whoiam55:(07:20
kkathmanJava_the_Hutt: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file07:20
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kkathmanwhoiam55: yes they are07:20
Java_the_Huttkkathman:  ok i know that but what is the address07:20
whoiam55:-007:20
whoiam55kkathman: can you share your repo add ?07:20
kkathman!tell Java_the_Hutt about repos07:20
kkathmansure 1 sec07:20
Sonny_WertzikJava_the_Hutt, u can open the repo list i package manager ,,right click themultiverse and select enable07:20
Java_the_HuttSonny with Adept ?07:21
Sonny_Wertzikya07:21
Sonny_Wertziki just did it07:21
Sonny_Wertziklast night07:21
Java_the_Hutti did not see something related with multiverse07:21
Sonny_WertzikJava_the_Hutt, 1 sec ill look07:21
Java_the_Hutti mean the only multi verse line is this " #deb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse"07:22
Java_the_Huttwhich is not working since this is a backbort07:22
Java_the_Huttbackport07:22
kkathmandeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted07:22
kkathmandeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted07:22
Java_the_Huttdoes it matter if i use Kubuntu or ubuntu ?07:22
kkathmanalways use ubuntu07:23
Java_the_Huttwhy ?07:23
Sonny_WertzikJava_the_Hutt, ya u are right sorry07:23
helpmekkathman: why?:)...kubuntu??07:23
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kkathmanhelpme: just what Ive been told and what I've done now since warty and never had a problem,. suit yourself07:23
Java_the_Hutti have used ubuntu alot without any problems, except one thing07:24
Java_the_Huttit doesn't suppot a Turkish letter correctly07:24
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Java_the_Huttsupport07:24
helpmekkathman: hey cool dude...i love ubuntu too:)07:24
kkathmanJava_the_Hutt: you might feed that back to the developers..and see if you can get others in Turkey to do the same07:25
Java_the_Hutti reported the bug ,to bugzilla 2 months ago, no one is interested and in breezy Turkish keyboard support was worse07:25
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Java_the_Huttkkathman: i did, i have posted the bug to bugzilla07:25
Java_the_Huttkkathman: no one interested in07:25
kkathmanJava_the_Hutt: like alot of things,  there is a critical mass for these things.07:25
Java_the_Huttkubuntu doesn't have that bug07:25
helpmekkathman: kubuntu is nice tooooo07:25
helpmebut aint ubuntu and kubuntu the same thing, except for gnome & kde???07:26
Kamping_Kaiserbasicly yes07:26
Java_the_Huttanyway what shhould i do to add multiverse to my kubuntu07:26
Java_the_Huttrepos are same for kubuntu and ubuntu ?07:27
Kamping_Kaiseryes they ar3e07:27
helpmeyes07:27
Java_the_Huttok that's what i would like to hear thanks07:27
Sonny_Wertziki just moved from gnome to KDE with breezy cause gnome got to be a pain with all the security07:28
Kamping_Kaiser'all the security'?07:28
helpmeok one quiz: which is faster & better? ubuntu or kubuntu?07:29
Sonny_WertzikKamping_Kaiser, ya i was locked out of simple stuff like setting icons.... i got frustrated with it07:29
Kamping_Kaiserhm strange.07:29
endo602can someone please help me here07:29
endo602will renaming a file?07:29
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Kamping_Kaiserendo602: in a terminal or the gui?07:30
endo602terminal07:30
endo602its tricky07:30
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endo602i need to change something in /etc/rc2.d07:31
Sonny_Wertzikthis new Adept PM makes a good difference in KDE07:31
Kamping_Kaiserendo602: just mv it07:31
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Java_the_Huttendo602: mv old_name new_name07:32
endo602tried that07:32
endo602not working07:32
Java_the_Huttwhat does it say ?07:32
Java_the_Huttshould also sudo07:32
Kamping_Kaiserremember sudo07:32
Java_the_Huttendo602: sudo mv old_name new_name07:33
Kamping_Kaiseras your working in rc207:33
endo602i know07:33
endo602i did that07:33
Java_the_Huttwhat is the error ?07:33
kkathmanSonny_Wertzik: yes I like Adept alot !07:33
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endo602mv: when moving multiple files, last argument must be directory07:34
Java_the_Huttmutliple files ?07:34
Java_the_Huttwhat are you writing in the console exaclty ?07:34
Java_the_Huttare you sure that you are mv a file not a directory ?07:35
endo602got it07:36
Sonny_Wertzikkkathman, ya i thought ksynaptic was terrible thats why 1 reason why i used gnome was using 07:37
endo602thanks guys07:37
kkathmankynaptic wasnt all that bad...but I'm still an apt-get kind of guy anyway07:38
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endo602has anyone used a usb flash drive on their system?07:38
Java_the_Huttwhat is the most annoying issue you encounter in Kubuntu ?07:38
endo602because it doesnt work here07:38
Kamping_Kaiserendo602: its been not working for a lot of ppl07:39
endo602hehe07:39
endo602has anyone found a fix for it?07:39
Sonny_Wertzikkkathman, ya i like auto apt and apt-get and checkinstall...ubuntu rules07:40
Kamping_Kaisernot sure.all i know is its not working :|07:40
Ben_UKUSB flash drives work for me07:42
Java_the_Huttwhat is the most annoying issue you encounter in Kubuntu ?07:42
Sonny_Wertzikadept is more like synaptic in gnome its a big improvement imo...im getting hooked on KDE07:42
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Ben_UKendo602: you could look in logs to see how far things go when you plug one in.07:43
Sonny_WertzikJava_the_Hutt, i think KDE has so many menus and they are scattered all over the place..until u get used to that it takes some time to get KDE working the way u want07:43
Sonny_WertzikJava_the_Hutt, thats just my opinion coming from using gnome07:44
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Java_the_HuttBTW when i type fakeroot make-jpgk jdk...   i got the following error07:45
helpmeis kubutnu faster than ubutnu?07:45
Java_the_Huttfakeroot: line make-jpgk command not found07:45
Java_the_Huttfakeroot: line 150: make-jpgk command not found07:45
Sonny_WertzikJava_the_Hutt, also amarok and noatun need certain files that dont come preloaded so they dont work right away07:45
Ben_UKHope you don't mind my asking again: anyone know any issues with khotkeys?  It seems to be not working at all for me.07:45
Java_the_Huttwhy is that so07:46
Java_the_Hutti mean i have written : sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package07:46
Sonny_Wertzikhelpme, speed wise,i think they are close in breezy07:46
Java_the_Huttthen this fakeroot make-jpkg downloaded_package_name.bin07:46
Sonny_Wertzikhelpme, gnome may be a hair faster07:46
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helpmeSonny_Wertzik: hmm i see07:47
Sonny_Wertzikhelpme, i was actually suprised that KDE is as fast as it is...i just switched from gnome 2 days ago07:47
asraniel hi, i need some quik help. acpi is bogus on my laptop, how can i make that linux doesent shutdown if the temperature is too high? linux thinks my laptop is at 144 celsius...07:48
helpmeSonny_Wertzik: yeah ive also always heard that gnome is 10x faster than kde.......07:48
Sonny_Wertzikhelpme, BTW im running an AMD64 3000+ @ 2600 mhz07:48
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helpmeSonny_Wertzik: thats why im also thinking of going to gnome.....ur RAM???07:49
Sonny_Wertzikhelpme, maybe it was until this new version of KDE...i dont know07:49
helpmeSonny_Wertzik: yes maybe....whats ur RAM btw?07:49
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Ben_UKasraniel: That is normally coded into the ACPI tables.07:49
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Sonny_Wertzikhelpme, Gskill 4400LC 1gb...u want my timings hehe?07:49
Kamping_Kaiserngith all07:50
helpmeSonny_Wertzik: yes..if u can give:).......ive 256mb only:(......so kde is real slow....im on kanotix btw..waiting for the ubuntu cds:)07:50
asranielasraniel: i just installed a new DSDT, now i have everything that works, but at the second reboot (well, after i put the laptop in hybernation and it didnt work..), on boot he shut down because a temperature that is too high07:50
helpmeKamping_Kaiser: goodnight07:50
Kamping_Kaiser:)07:50
asranielasraniel: what can i do?07:51
Ben_UKasraniel: If you are lucky, you might have a writable /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ATF0/trip_points file.07:51
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Sonny_Wertzikhelpme, my timings wont help u unless u have the same ram hehe07:51
Ben_UKbut most broken DSDT (i.e. ACPI tables) don't allow trip points to be set.07:51
Sonny_Wertzikhelpme, 256mb is pretty low07:51
helpmeSonny_Wertzik: hmm..right:)07:51
helpmeyeah....07:52
Sonny_Wertzikwhat gear do u have?07:52
helpmegear??07:52
helpmeim on a pc:)07:52
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Sonny_Wertzikhelpme, what hardware are u using?07:52
helpmeintel celeron...256mb..40gb hd.thats all i know:)07:53
helpmeok now nite all:)07:53
Sonny_Wertzikhelpme, ahhh... celeron....well a bit more memory should help your speed out...mem for a celeron is cheap07:54
Sonny_Wertzikgnite07:54
helpmeSonny_Wertzik: i see07:54
helpmenite07:54
Sonny_Wertzikgnite07:55
Java_the_HuttAfter installing JDK, when i type sudo update-alternatives --config java, i have 2 alternatives, neither are my desired installation what should i do ?07:55
asranielBen_UK, last question, how can i see the if the dynamic cpu frequence works? where can i see the actual cpu speed?07:55
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Ben_UKsudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpu_freq/scaling_curfreq07:57
Ben_UK(unless I've miss typed!)07:57
Ben_UKAlso look at: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/thermal.html07:57
strike4ceapokryphos_: I need to change my kernel to use the ati driver is this something thats going to be a pain?07:57
strike4ceapokryphos_: I have the kernel installed on my desktop07:58
libbenhow do i ln a target to another target?07:59
libbenln: `fnutt/images/Resor/Val_Thorens/': hard link not allowed for directory07:59
libbenln: `.': hard link not allowed for directory07:59
libbeni want to ln a folder to another folder.08:00
kkathmanwow cool I have a chance to get a fiberoptic internet !! Megafast!08:00
dell500is it possible to have xmms controlled from gaim?08:01
kkathmanfrom gaim??  I dont think so unless you program it to :)08:01
dell500aww well08:01
strike4cekkathman:  You no anything about installing a new kernel?08:01
shogoukixmms+gaim on kde, wow08:01
kkathmanstrike4ce: Ive never done it sorry08:02
strike4cewhat is xmms?08:02
kkathmanbut surely there are support articles on google08:02
libbenRiddell: how do i link one folder to another? 08:09
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endo6O2for some reason it will not let me unpack a .deb file08:13
Riddelllibben: ln -s to from08:13
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spiralhi08:14
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corincolehey08:18
corincolewhat exactly is kubuntu?08:18
stupendo44corincole: http://www.kubuntu.org08:19
Java_the_HuttKubuntu is KDE based ubuntu08:19
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stupendo44It's basically Ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome08:19
stbaintry it, you'll like it08:20
Java_the_HuttKDE is superior over gnome in functionality but it is less stable08:20
corincolewhats the difference between KDE and Gnome?08:20
Java_the_Huttlook above :)08:20
buzis there a way to downgrade my misbehaving kde  3.5b2 to kde 3.4.3?08:20
sampankde is nice and gnome is like wearing a straightjacket08:20
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stupendo44lol, sampan 08:20
buzany chance to get it done with apt-pinning?08:20
sampan:X08:20
Java_the_Huttbuz: i was there i re installed my kubuntu08:21
buzi just did that the other week after my boot drive had failed08:21
buzno time now08:21
Java_the_HuttToday i was discussing, that how pity kubuntu website encourages people for 3.508:21
buz3.5b1 was fine08:21
buzb2 is a catastrophe08:21
Java_the_Huttno08:21
Java_the_Huttonly sound is a matter08:21
Java_the_Huttrest of it should work fine with minor shortcomings08:22
buzand quite a few others listed on the problems page08:22
stupendo44corincole: http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/cs_msg/5682908:22
buzamarok doesnt even start for me08:22
Java_the_Huttyeah may be, but i have met people who are happy with their KDE 3.508:22
stupendo44corincole: http://www.uselinuxathome.com/ENgui.htm08:22
Java_the_Huttbut i have gone back to 3.408:23
unsurrealbuz: are there any amarokapp 's running?08:23
stupendo44corincole: that should give you some info on the differences between kde and gnome08:23
buzno08:23
buzeven after reboot it still crashes08:23
Java_the_Huttsmells likie flame wars08:23
Java_the_HuttAny eclipse user here ? How does it look like, gnomish or KDEish08:23
wu-hsini've trouble with trying to get kubuntu to stream .pls08:23
wu-hsinXMMS won't react to an URL08:24
buzJava_the_Hutt: swt uses gtk08:24
buzso it looks gnomish08:24
wu-hsinKonqueror crashes08:24
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buzhowever, gtk-qt fixes that quite well08:24
johndilleycorincole: a more light-heared comparison at http://www.illusionary.com/GNOMEvKDE.html :)08:24
Java_the_Huttbut i swear i saw my Eclipse look like KDE, but i have re installed now it looks like GNOME08:24
wu-hsinis this kind of problem familiar here?08:24
buzgtk-qt not working, i'd gues08:24
buzit was always a "gtk app"08:25
buz(SWT is implemented in GTK for linux)$08:25
Java_the_Hutti know that08:25
Java_the_Huttbut i saw my eclipse looking like gnome08:25
Java_the_Huttno08:25
Java_the_Huttlike kde08:25
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buz!gtk-qt08:26
ubotuInstall the gtk2-engines-gtk-qt package to make your GTK apps more bearable in KDE. Apply settings in KControl, and restart GTK apps.08:26
wu-hsinsurprise, mplayer streams without a problem08:27
buzare there any news on oo2 final debs?08:28
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Java_the_Huttok  thanks08:28
chavobuz, afaik there's no difference between RC3 and final08:29
Java_the_Huttbuz: already installed08:29
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buzthat makes it look quite qt'ish to me08:29
jjessehow do i setup kubuntu to boot directly to the terminal and not start kde?08:30
stupendo44is it just me, or does breezy look a tiny bit unfinished in some places08:31
stupendo44just wondering why there's some low-res icons floating around and stuff08:31
aftertafjjesse, you stop kdm from running, by removing it from init.d08:31
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aftertafjjesse, sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove08:32
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jjesseaftertaf: thanks08:32
_davidI just downloaded a BUNCH of updates today - is there anywhere I can find info on what was updated???08:32
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aftertafno idea...08:33
frank23_david: synaptic can show the changelogs before you update. I don't know about after08:33
K-Richhi all... i decided to try out the kubuntu-desktop package... but i've decided to get rid of it because of space concerns... when i try to apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop it only wants to remove the meta-package.... how do i do this?08:33
aftertafK-Rich, remove kde08:33
_davidIs there a forum or update website I can look at?08:33
aftertafopen synaptic and search 'kde' remove all that doesnt want to remove other usefu things from your system.08:34
K-Richokay... thanks08:34
stupendo44_david: nope, there's no websites or forums... anywhere...08:35
K-Richif all else fails i'll just reinstall since i havn't completely restored my backup :P08:35
_davidSo I just unstall updates blindly?08:36
stupendo44I'm really getting used to this middle-click-paste thing. Too bad Windows doesn't have this :)08:37
stbainbelieve it or not, I think there's a powertoy that enables it on win3208:37
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stupendo44really08:39
stupendo44and how long has it been in linux...?08:39
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workingmansdeadCould someone please explain how to convert a SHN file to a mp3 file using the SHN tool?08:40
endo6O2where do i change system default applications08:40
endo6O2like from konqurer to firefox08:40
endo6O2?08:40
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johndilleySystem Settings -> User Account -> Default Applications08:42
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richardcany idea when the commented repositiories in sources.list will work?08:43
endo6O2thanks08:43
richardcapt gets a 404 from them08:43
amigravehas kvim been removed on breezy ?08:44
libbenwhats the other name of vnc sorta app that was more amazing =)08:44
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DaSkreechBase has serious SQL issues08:46
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workingmansdeadcan anyone help me with converting SHN files to mp3 files?08:49
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jjarvenphi, how can i boot my mac mini with the kubuntu live CD?08:50
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DaSkreechTurn on the mac08:51
poimenhi08:51
poimensomeone here can help me with ivtv and breezy?08:51
poimenwhile compiling the module I get this error a lot ivtvctl.c:655: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function sprintf08:52
wu-hsinis there any solution around avifiles going off-sync with their audio track in mplayer?08:52
poimenvtvctl.c:1833: warning: data definition has no type or storage class08:52
poimenmake[1] : *** [ivtvctl.o]  Error 108:52
poimenmake[1] : Leaving directory `/home/poimen/ivtv-0.4.0/utils'08:52
poimenmake: *** [all]  Error 208:52
poimenpoimen@catv:~/ivtv-0.4.0$   08:52
hussamwhat's a good kde based bittorrent client?08:53
stbainazureus08:53
stbainwell... it's java, not kde, but it works great08:53
icewtyeah, azureus is the best08:53
sampanktorrent is out 1.1 or 1.2 -- haven't tried it but installed the .deb and it looks good08:53
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hussamok I'll try ktorrent08:54
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satafterhhello people, i need to ask a stupid question that I should know the answer to lol, how do i change the color depth09:01
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workingmansdeadhello, can any help me with audio file conversion?09:02
crimsunwhat sort?09:03
workingmansdeadcrimsun: SHN to mp3 using SHN tool09:04
crimsunworkingmansdead: decode shns to wav, then encode the wavs to mp309:04
hussamsatafterh: you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf , look for a line similar to "DefaultDepth24" or "DefaultDepth16"09:04
satafterh#hussam thanks09:05
workingmansdeadcrimsun: im not sure how to do that, sorry, im new to linux09:05
crimsunworkingmansdead: in a Konsole, you'd need to run shntool on the shns09:07
workingmansdeadcrimsun: whats the command for that?09:08
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crimsunworkingmansdead: shntool -h   should bring up a list of options09:09
workingmansdeadcrimsun: yes, i get a list of commands such as -m,-f,-v and so on09:10
stupendo44why is sudo suddenly not asking for a password?09:11
hussambtw, anybody knows if quake 4 for linux supports single player mode or only multiplayer mode?09:11
crimsunstupendo44: it shouldn't if you're using the same terminal and haven't expired the auth token manually09:11
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crimsunhussam: that's addressed on the id software Web page for q4/Linux09:12
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chavosudo doesn't ask me for a password wither09:12
chavoeither09:12
hussamcrimsun: thanks I'm considering buying that game. 09:13
stupendo44no, I've exited the terminal09:13
stupendo44then loaded another one09:13
crimsunstupendo44: that's the same terminal09:14
stupendo44and synaptic isn't asking for a password either09:14
chavoyeah, mine deosn't ask even at bootup. I boot into terminal, log in, and run sudo kdm -> doesn't ask for a password09:14
stupendo44usually if I exit the terminal and start another one it asks for the password again09:14
crimsunif you log out of /dev/pts/1 and open a new terminal, it's the same terminal, so the auth token doesn't expire09:14
stupendo44I'm talking about using Konsole, btw09:15
workingmansdeadcrimsun: so how would you run the SHNtool through konsole?09:15
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crimsunworkingmansdead: sec, I'm at work, and I don't have shntool installed.09:17
workingmansdeadcrimsun: alright, 09:18
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reagleBRKLNwhen i first update kubuntu 5.10 the hal automounting was fantastic, I even had device specific directories in /dev/{usbdisk,MUVO,etc.} but now that's not happening09:22
reagleBRKLNoh, i'm sorry, that's /media/MUVO09:23
reagleBRKLNbut no more, just sda1 etc.09:23
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reagleBRKLNhow do i get that back?09:23
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reagleBRKLNpkgs i could reinstall?09:24
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jpgeeretshi folks09:26
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jpgeeretssome around here who can tell me how to chek why mine hd becomes full?09:27
crimsundid you install into a very small partition?09:27
jpgeeretsused 2 partitions of 20 Gb09:27
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jpgeerets1 partition system, other /home09:28
crimsunthen you should be fine09:28
jpgeerets / home becomes full09:28
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crimsunare you downloading stuff onto /home?09:28
BlankCjpgeerets: in Konqueror there is a option under View -> ViewMode -> File Size View that can tell you visually where the space is going.09:28
knowerrorsHi all, I just installed Kubuntu 5.10, but can't connect to the internet by dialup modem... kppp keeps saying no valid password, works fine on other debian install, any ideas to fix?09:29
jpgeeretshmm, this should be installed on my system BlankC ?09:29
BlankCKonqueror is the web browser / file manager.09:30
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jpgeeretsyes, right09:30
jpgeeretsok09:30
jpgeeretsgreat09:30
jpgeeretsi found it!09:31
jpgeeretsthanks!!09:31
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Java_the_HuttI have a question about OpenOffice writer. The default A4 size with 100% zoom, is not displayed 21 cm width on my screen. IS that the same with you ?09:32
stbaindoesn't that depend on your monitor dimensions and resolution settings?09:34
Java_the_HuttWell i am not sure09:34
Java_the_HuttBut i think if it claims that it is 100% width A4, then size should be realistic09:35
Java_the_Huttwhich is not09:35
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buzit would seem to me that likely the dpi settings of your screen arent entirely correct then09:36
knowerrorsAnybody here using kppp to connect to internet by dialup?09:37
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richardcwhere can i get the w32codecs package for breezy?09:41
buz!marillat09:41
ubotuIf you enable the marillat repoistories, please disable them after you use them as needed.09:41
buzrichardc: google for ubuntu marillat09:41
chavo!w32codecs09:42
ubotuw32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)09:42
dell500anyone know how to get the resolutions for dual heads to fit the monitors correctly?09:42
buzdell500: i never managed to get it to actually work with different resolutions09:42
dell500that sucks09:42
dell500i really dislike the scrolling09:42
buzfinally decided to buy another 20" lcd when i really need to go dual head again09:42
dell500lol09:42
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buzthe 17" one sucks anyway09:42
dell500ya09:43
buzmakes weird noises09:43
dell500brb09:43
dell500if i do ctrl+alt+backspace that quits out of x, correct?09:43
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johndilleyyes09:43
buzyes09:43
buzusually x instantly restarts though09:44
dell500how do i start x back up09:44
buz(if you have x set to load upon boot that is)09:44
johndilleyif kdm/gdm is running, it should restart09:44
dell500is the command startx09:44
buzdell500: yes09:45
dell500even for gnome?09:45
chavodell500, startx will run whatecer is in your ~/.xinitrc09:45
dell500k09:45
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_robertI've question about the pmount in kubuntu. how to I umount it? its automaticly mounted, but async and not sync09:53
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knowerrorsAny dialup modem users around?10:00
endo602not i10:01
endo602anyone install moodin?10:01
_robertI've question about the pmount in kubuntu. how to I umount it? its automaticly mounted, but async and not sync10:01
endo602anyone figue out the USB flash drives yet?10:02
endo602:)10:02
buzusb hd works like a charm10:02
buzshould use the same driver no?10:02
_robertthe dirve is working here, but how to I unmount it?10:03
buzwhat drive10:03
_robertthe security remove in media://10:03
_robertusb oder firewire10:03
buzah i generally just unplug ;)10:03
_robertoder ? or10:03
buzbut safe that ain't10:03
_robertbut the fs is mounted async and not sync10:03
buzwhat does mount show?10:04
_robert./dev/sda5 on /media/robert_firewire1 type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)10:04
buztry umount /dev/sda5 10:04
buzor umount /media/robert_firewire110:05
_robertas root thats no problem but not as user10:05
_robertas its not in fstab10:05
buzsudo umount then ;)10:05
_robertI know10:05
_robertbut that can't be the normal way10:05
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jigerhello everyone. can someone help me setup sudo on breezy10:33
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_judithwhere can I configure anti-aliasing?10:35
dinocoreanyone know if konqueror has plans to switch to geko engine?10:36
didahi10:37
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tomadinocore: not in the foreseeable future10:38
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toma_judith: in the font settings10:39
dinocoretoma: ah thanks10:40
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dinocorealright new quesiont10:41
jigercan someone help me recover su and sudo?10:42
Juerdjiger: What do you mean by "recover"/10:42
dinocorecan i update to breezy using knaptic?10:42
Juerdjiger: What do you mean by "recover"?10:42
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Juerddinocore: Indirectly10:42
dinocorehow?10:42
jigeractually did a expert setup and had setup root user/passwd10:42
Juerddinocore: First, change /etc/apt/sources.list so that everywhere it says "hoary", it will say "breezy"10:43
dinocoreJuerd: and then update?10:43
Juerddinocore: Then, with kynaptic, update and upgrade as usual10:43
dinocoreJuerd: word10:43
jigerbut sudo didn't work. somehow feeling as if I was missing something. I read somewhere to disable su by running passwd -l root10:43
Juerddinocore: Be warned that it's less risky to do this from the console10:43
Juerddinocore: (console, not konsole)10:43
jigernow sudo and su both are screwed up coz both dont work :(10:43
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dinocoreJuerd: why is that?10:44
Juerdjiger: Boot in recovery mode, then add to /etc/sudoers the line "%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL" if it is not already there10:44
Juerdjiger: Then, add yourself to "admin" in /etc/group10:44
Juerddinocore: KDE tends to crash and behave in weird ways when you upgrade it while it is running.10:45
_judithtoma: can't find anything like anti-aliasing there!10:45
Juerddinocore: So it is better to log out, then switch to a tty, and then upgrade10:45
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dinocoreJuerd: alright cool10:45
kkathmanI wonder if someone could help me troubleshoot a network problem?10:45
dinocoreJuerd: alright im doin it10:46
Juerdkkathman: Describe the problem10:46
Juerdkkathman: You'll find out if anyone can help you10:46
dinocorebreezy here i come10:46
kkathmanJuerd well, I had a power outage briefly which shut down my computer. When I brought the computer back up it is reporting it cannot find the network10:47
_judithHow do I handle this error? "C compiler cannot create executables"10:47
kkathmanJuerd it has worked flawlessly before. and Ive done all the obvious things...check the hub port, and connection10:47
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dinocoreoh wait10:47
dinocorewhere can i found the apt-sources list?10:47
kkathmanJuerd other computers on the network have no problems, only this one, and the green light in the back on the card interface is blinking as normal10:48
Juerdkkathman: "reporting that"... How? Error message?10:48
Juerddinocore: /etc/apt/sources.list10:48
tomakkathman: try shutting down the computer, disconnect it from the powersupply and plug it in again and reboot10:48
dinocoreright10:49
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kkathmanJuerd during boot, it hangs on the step after getting an OK on the network interface card..but when it tries to connect it fails and gives several errors, including SMB errors10:49
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Juerdkkathman: Have you recently upgraded?10:49
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kkathmanJuerd when I go into the system settings,  it says "disabled Ethernet device"10:50
kkathmanJuerd yes I upgraded last week, but the network has worked flawlessly since then10:50
Juerdkkathman: Can you enable the ethernet device?10:50
kkathmanof course, in the breezy kubuntu, Juerd, you cant get to administrator mode because of a bug10:50
Juerdkkathman: What happens if you do "ifup eth0" in a terminal?10:50
kkathmanone moment and I'll let you know Juerd10:51
kkathmanJuerd it says "Failed to open statefile /etc/network/run/ifstate, permission denied10:51
Pablo_Csudo10:52
Pablo_Csudo ifup eth010:52
Pablo_Csudo ifconfig eth0 up10:52
Pablo_Cor somthing10:52
kkathmanok it says ifup: interface card eth0 alread configured10:53
kkathmanIm sorry I have to leave for an appt...I will return in about an hour.10:53
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knowerrorscan anybody help me with kppp not recognizing password?11:07
Aapzakis there a # in your password?11:08
knowerrorsnope11:08
Aapzakwhat does kppp btw?11:09
knowerrorsand this exact same kppp setup worked fine on my old debian install, and the one Im using now11:09
knowerrorsits for dialup internet using modem11:09
_judithHow do I handle this error? "C compiler cannot create executables". I am trying to install amarok from source11:09
Aapzakknowerrors: it forgets you password?11:10
crimsunerr, does the amarok in Breezy not suffice?11:10
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knowerrorsAapzak: no, the password is save/stays, but on connect after dialing, it says in the error log something like no valid or usable password available11:10
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Aapzakknowerrors: sounds like a weird bug11:12
Aapzakhave you checked out the bug lists?11:12
knowerrorsIm trying to find out if its just on my install/modem, or if other people have same problem11:12
knowerrorswhere is the bug list?11:12
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eckharthi11:14
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eckhartevery time i start kde kgpg tells me that gpg-agent is not running11:16
libbenis there a way to see/check all my links? "ln" that is 11:16
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eckharthow can i fix that problem?11:17
Aapzaklol, I'm getting the Kubuntu image through torrent. 1.4 MB/sec, bloody fast server11:22
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Aapzakknowerrors: bugs.kde.org?11:23
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knowerrorscan someone running kubuntu 5.10 type dpkg -l kppp for me?11:23
knowerrorsI need to know what version of kppp it uses11:23
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AapzakI'm not running Kubuntu, sry11:24
knowerrorsAapzak: Im using kde 3.4.2 on another debian HD right now and kppp is fine11:24
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Aapzakallright, dunno much about that stuff, sry11:24
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wiehy everybody i want to install mplayer 11:27
wiebut its not in the lists of kubuntu 11:27
wiehow should i install it 11:27
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SigmaXwie: download the source from www4.mplayer.hu11:30
SigmaXI just installed in myself half an hour ago11:30
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SigmaXYou'll need to apt-get install gcc-3.4 && CC=exportgcc-3.411:31
SigmaXBecause mplayer can't be complied with gcc 4, Ubuntu's default11:31
SigmaXCC=export gcc-3.4  *11:32
SigmaXThey don't include it in the Kubuntu/Ubuntu archives because it's technically illegal in some countries.11:32
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SigmaXknowerrors: kpp 3.4.311:34
knowerrorsthx, thats the problem... my debain right now is using 3.4.2-3 which works fine11:34
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knowerrorsthink I found the answer, crazy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27782&highlight=kppp+password11:41
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skiyMay I start by saying what a fantastic job you've done with kubuntu11:42
skiyIt really is superb!!!11:42
skiyI have a question though and I didn't know where to ask11:43
skiyI updated my hoary to breezy11:43
skiyand now kaffeine has stopped working11:43
skiyit say "Can't init Video Driver 'xvimagesink' - trying another one..."11:44
skiyNo useable video-driver found! (xvimagesink)11:44
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ToyMananyone know where I might find (K)ubuntu repositories that have python2.6.1?11:51
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ToyManthat's wxpython 2.6, actually11:55
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