/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2005/10/26/#ubuntu-java.txt

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Belutzanyone here?09:19
tashirojupp09:22
Belutzdo you know what happening in here http://belutz.pastebin.com/401205 ?09:23
Belutzi'm trying to install netbeans09:23
tashiroBelutz: huh, don't know. They come really with an InstallShield installer ?!09:25
Belutzthat's why, it's weird09:25
tashiroNetBeans suck from my POV09:26
Belutzso what should i use?09:27
Belutzeclipse?09:27
tashiroBelutz: I use eclipse. I think it's a great product09:28
Belutzand why do you think netbeans suck?09:28
tashiroIt's a closed software, mostly. They name it open source, but I think it isn't. And second it uses Swing :-)09:30
Belutzwhat's wrong with Swing?09:30
Belutzi'm new in java thingy09:30
Belutz:)09:31
tashiroBelutz: Swing tries to repaint all widget by itself instead of using the native widgets, which the OS offers. The result is that is looks odd on all platforms.09:32
Belutzi see09:32
Belutzthen, what eclipse use?09:32
tashiroThe native widgets09:33
tashiroFor Linux you can choose between Motif and GTK09:33
Belutzi see09:33
Belutzi have to install plugin for that?09:33
tashiroAll you have to install is the eclipse-sdk package09:34
Belutzyes... and i wonder why it needs mozilla-browser to be installed 09:36
tashiroIt uses mozilla as embedded widget to show javadocs for example, see http://vern.chem.tu-berlin.de/~stephan/images/eclipse-gjdoc.png09:37
Belutzis the help file must be installed separately?09:39
tashiroNo, but the help system doesn't currently work for ubuntu, because ubuntu miss some packages, which are needed for the help system. We're working on that.09:41
Belutzi see... so that's why i keep getting file not found when i try to access the help file?09:42
tashiroYes, debian works better for this case. But there are also some missing bits. 09:45
Belutzok, thanks for the info :) i'll be waiting for the update :)09:46
tashiroStay tuned :-)09:46
Belutz:-)09:47
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