[12:00] <ptashek> and if you're looking for some adrenaline rush, try running Debian Sid on a production box :->
[12:00] <nicholaspaul> i agree dekela... Ubuntu is better than any OS i've developed (which is...er...none!)
[12:00] <mUsN1t> what filesystem is a floppy???
[12:00] <nicholaspaul> !monkies
[12:00] <ubotu> nicholaspaul: Are you on ritalin?
[12:00] <QMario> FD0
[12:00] <nicholaspaul> !ritalin
[12:00] <nicholaspaul> haha
[12:00] <mUsN1t> ta
[12:00] <KinkoBlast> nicholaspaul: I was giving a posable solution, but I do not have the skills to implement it. Don't you agree that a friendlyer error message is a good idea?
[12:00] <ProfOhki|Class> mUsN1t: usually FAT32
[12:00] <QMario> FAT
[12:00] <dell500> what might i need to mount for a usb digi cam?
[12:00] <nicholaspaul> *ignoring QMario....;)
[12:00] <PupenoL> ProfOhki|Class: looking into old sofware for old hardware is not a solution (what about bugs ? what about speed improvements ? you'll miss them). You should look into distros made for little requirements, like damn small linux or similar.
[12:00] <ptashek> mUsN1t, usually FAT16
[12:00] <gnomefreak> im thinking hoary needs 64 ram also
[12:01] <gnomefreak> not sure about warty
[12:01] <Rich43> THANKS G-LITE
[12:01] <nicholaspaul> sure kinkoblast. THe more messages the better. But perhaps the permutations are greater than one message can provide.
[12:01] <PupenoL> ProfOhki|Class: http://www.distrowatch.org have fun!
[12:01] <davmor2> dell500 a usb cable plug it in
[12:01] <bobbyd> hjack, apt-get install g++
[12:01] <nicholaspaul> !!
[12:01] <ubotu> methinks ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[12:01] <immolo> ProfOhki|Class-  Try Gentoo
[12:01] <dekela> Do you have any advice for me to make ubutu even better or should I be satisfy with what is preinstalled?
[12:01] <dell500> good one sherlock
[12:01] <ProfOhki|Class> PupenoL: well, I looked at a tiny slack ware... but this machine has a differet issue with each distro
[12:01] <nicholaspaul> !!!
[12:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[12:01] <nalioth> hjack: install "build-essential" for a set of compiling tools
[12:01] <davmor2> dell500 what do you want to do with it
[12:01] <hjack> Thank you guys
[12:02] <ProfOhki|Class> too little ram for ubuntu, knoppix installer locks, slackware kernel panics... booting off the CD...
[12:02] <gnomefreak> immolo: omfg plz dont say that word with me here :( i spent 3 hrs installing that damn os :( lol
[12:02] <nicholaspaul> ubotu smart.
[12:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, smart is "Install the smartmontools package and check out http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Monitor_your_hard_disk(s)_with_smartmontools"
[12:02] <chriscargo> i'm having trouble installing lilo on the /boot directory. i also tried installing grub but both disks are XFSwww.getinbalance.org = 216.38.139.222?
[12:02] <ptashek> dekela, you might want to build a tailored kernel - should result give you a bit faster system
[12:02] <mwe> gentoo on ad 200mhz system :) I hope you have lots of time
[12:02] <chriscargo> whoops sorry.
[12:02] <immolo> gnomefreak-  I have 3 computers running on it
[12:02] <QMario> Has anyone gotten Totem to play a Quicktime movie in Firefox?
[12:02] <chriscargo> both disks are XFS.
[12:02] <dekela> can I find it on apt?
[12:02] <ptashek> "result give you"... /me going bananas
[12:02] <dell500> davmor2, it's not automatically  mounting, how do i mount it
[12:02] <sorush20> irc://mesra.dal.net:7000/archaeology.
[12:02] <gnomefreak> immolo i gave up on it sometime after partioning
[12:02] <immolo> mwe - if it doesn't take a PS2 long to run gentoo I think 200mhz will speed though it
[12:02] <nicholaspaul> no i havent qmario. I usually just look for something else if the stock apps dont cream my twinky.
[12:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dekela about sources
[12:03] <KinkoBlast> Gah. Why does the FSF refuse to say "MS Windows" when that is what they are talking about. "a popular non-free operating system" could also be OS X, hell, in some circles, it could be OS/2!
[12:03] <dekela> Sorry for being such a noob (As you say in the community)
[12:03] <nicholaspaul> *shudders at memories of OS2
[12:03] <QMario> Nicholaspaul, Twinky?
[12:03] <nalioth> dekela: we are all new at something, (check your priv msgs)
[12:03] <nicholaspaul> dekela.. nice use of jargon;)
[12:03] <Rich43> Not a linux question, But is streaming music over the internet with shoutcast legal?
[12:03] <Coz> Hello all
[12:03] <bluefrog-10> hi just installed samba+ldap on ubu-server and no more sudo (pam can't retrieve authentif info)any1 can help?
[12:03] <nicholaspaul> !twinky
[12:03] <ubotu> nicholaspaul: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:03] <immolo> plus you can have your system built with gcc3.4.4 with nptl etc
[12:03] <Coz>  I remember why I came here earlier
[12:03] <ptashek> Rich43, if it's music you owne the copyright for - yes
[12:04] <nicholaspaul> twinky is a cream filled pastry, low in vital nutrients and high in sugar
[12:04] <KinkoBlast> rich43:Depends on the museic.
[12:04] <ptashek> Rich43, if it's music you pay royalties for - yes
[12:04] <Coz>  I wanted to try O&O linux defrag on ubuntu but can't get it to install. It doean't recognize any of the pacages
[12:04] <QMario> What is wrong with OS/2?
[12:04] <ptashek> Rich43, otherwise - rather not
[12:04] <Coz>  Is there some way of installing this?
[12:04] <ProfOhki|Class> Rich43: if you have the broadcast rights, sure
[12:04] <Rich43> ptashek, So youi cant stream my audio cd's?
[12:04] <dekela> But I promise you.. the noob part is temporarly.. I am hungry for information ;-)
[12:04] <nalioth> Coz: linux defrag?
[12:04] <davmor2> dell500 what do you want to do download photo or what? if so applications/graphics/gthumb image viewer and select source as camera select from list
[12:04] <Rich43> so I*
[12:04] <ProfOhki|Class> Rich43: not publically
[12:04] <Coz> yes O&O has a beta defrag for linux
[12:04] <ptashek> Rich43, no, you can't
[12:04] <QMario> How do I tell Firefox to use MPlayer, instead of Totem?
[12:04] <ProfOhki|Class> you could proally stream them to another machine in your posession though
[12:04] <nalioth> dekela: priv msgs bring loads of info from ubotu
[12:04] <QMario> !totem
[12:04] <ubotu> QMario: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:04] <ProfOhki|Class> that no one else could listen to
[12:04] <nir_> hi
[12:05] <immolo> Coz - you only need to defrag ext2
[12:05] <dell500> sweret, thanks davmor2
[12:05] <frank23> QMario: I use the mediaplayerconnectivity extension
[12:05] <Coz> fine but I neede to know of a whay to install this on uvuntu
[12:05] <dekela> nalioth I will look at it
[12:05] <Coz> ubuntu
[12:05] <nir_> someone tried to install XFCE ?
[12:05] <Coz> I really type poorly
[12:05] <nir_> coz i need to know if i'll get Terminal
[12:05] <immolo> Coz - download the binary
[12:05] <nicholaspaul> nir, oh yea, i'm using it now. see?
[12:05] <gnomefreak> nir_ yes
[12:05] <immolo> then run it from a livecd
[12:05] <fredmorcos> hey people
[12:05] <gnomefreak> i have it installed
[12:05] <nicholaspaul> hey fredmorcos
[12:05] <davmor2> QMario Pass totem seems to be built in
[12:05] <nalioth> nir_: wiki.ubuntu.com/xubuntu will show you what comes with xubuntu
[12:05] <dekela> i saw that the last release from ubuntu had in the forum something like a noob script installer for all you need
[12:06] <fredmorcos> i have a q
[12:06] <Coz> they have three packages
[12:06] <Rich43> So your telling me all the small internet radio stations get permission to stream?
[12:06] <fredmorcos> is there a way to use apt-build on ubuntu??
[12:06] <Coz> on their site
[12:06] <dekela> do you know on anything like that for Breezer?
[12:06] <nir_> whats Xububtu
[12:06] <ptashek> oh, BTW, is all that Sarge/Sid crap with hotplug and pendrives sorted in ubuntu?
[12:06] <fredmorcos> hi nicholaspaul
[12:06] <nalioth> dekela: stay away from forum scripts, please
[12:06] <nir_> i'm here with ubuntu :)
[12:06] <nir_> heheh
[12:06] <nicholaspaul> is there a diff between xubuntu and ubuntu with xfce installed after gnome?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> nalioth,  they release that yet?
[12:06] <Rich43> Would they pay a big licence fee or something?
[12:06] <nir_> anyway its very nice :)
[12:06] <nalioth> nir_: visit that site and see
[12:06] <nalioth> gnomefreak: yes they have for breezy
[12:06] <conn> quick question, I installed firefox 1.5 beta into /opt using this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion - but when I start firefox I get chrome registration errrors. The problem is that it needs to modify files in /opt/firefox but it has no permissions as the user (sudo firefox works fine). Can someone recommend a work-around?
[12:06] <dekela> nalioth: why man?
[12:06] <nir_> used to be a debian user, but hated the politics the old packages and stuff
[12:06] <gnomefreak> xubuntuubuntu with xfce instead of gnome
[12:06] <frank23> dekela: there is something called easy-ubuntu in the forums for breezy. I never tried it though
[12:06] <nir_> oki thanks :)))
[12:06] <immolo> Coz - I just got mine from edonkey
[12:06] <nalioth> dekela: any fool can write a script and post it
[12:07] <ptashek> Rich43, the fees ain't that big I guess
[12:07] <Coz> edonley? defrag utility
[12:07] <QMario> !Firefox
[12:07] <bluefrog-10> hi just installed samba+ldap on ubu-server and no more sudo (pam can't retrieve authentif info)any1 can help?
[12:07] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, QMario
[12:07] <dekela> Seems preety easy to get things working like on M$ OS
[12:07] <nalioth> dekela: the scripts are not vetted for usability
[12:07] <nicholaspaul> so installing U then X doesnt give me any less ?
[12:07] <immolo> coz - then put it on a livecd and ran it
[12:07] <nicholaspaul> qmario, questions about Firefox??
[12:07] <nalioth> dekela: we see lots of folks in here with broken systems due to " a script from the ubuntuforums"
[12:07] <QMario> Yes.
[12:07] <mwe> conn: I just downloaded firefox1.5 beta2 and unzipped it to /opt. It works fine here
[12:07] <dekela> I see
[12:08] <andy_> suggestions for xmms and 5.1 surround sound?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> dekela, ubuntu is no harder to install than winxp it does it pretty much for you as does xp
[12:08] <frank23> conn: I would install firefox as a user in  /home/username/opt  instead so its simply installed for the user only
[12:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dekela about synaptic
[12:08] <ptashek> gnomefreak, it does a bit more than that
[12:08] <conn> frank23, I guess I'll do that, thanks
[12:08] <nalioth> dekela: you read all that stuff ubotu has sent you and you'll not need a script for anything
[12:08] <ptashek> looking at debian installer
[12:08] <dekela> So I guess I will go ahead and read as much as i can on the Linux Kernel.. Debian apt package managment and the Linux file system
[12:08] <nicholaspaul> dekela, i was a U-noob not so long ago, and installing it is pretty simple. even for me :)
[12:09] <conn> mwe, it's actually the nightly branch build, I think perhaps extensions are installed system-wide again and not just into the profile folder
[12:09] <ptashek> dekela, apt is totally easy
[12:09] <nicholaspaul> most of the time, dekela, you can install it happily with all the defaults. Just press 'ok' all the way..
[12:09] <ptashek> but for a newbie I'd suggest aptitude
[12:09] <Seveas> ptashek, nooooooooooooo
[12:09] <nir_> i'm with ubuntu , can i change my os to XUBUNTU ?
[12:09] <frank23> conn: note that alot of  extensions don't work with 1.5beta and some updated  extensions for 1.5beta will not work in 1.0.7
[12:09] <Seveas> synaptic! gnome-app-install!
[12:09] <dekela> From a quick look I noticed I need to run an SMP compiled kernel (I have a 3.0 G prescot)
[12:09] <Seveas> no command line cruft for newbies :)
[12:09] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install anythingyouwillneed   :)
[12:09] <conn> frank23, I've used the nightly build on windows a long time, I know what I'm doing, but thanks for the warning :)
[12:10] <ptashek> Seveas, why? It's more error-proof as it checks dependencies more strictly
[12:10] <frank23> conn: ok, just checking ;-)
[12:10] <conn> frank23, if you didn't know, "nightly tester tools" is a handy extension even for 1.5b2
[12:10] <nir_> i'm with ubuntu , can i change my os to XUBUNTU ?
[12:10] <Seveas> ptashek, nonsense :)
[12:10] <nicholaspaul> sure nir.
[12:10] <nicholaspaul> nir - just use synaptic and search for xfce 4.
[12:10] <ptashek> Seveas, sense :-
[12:10] <mwe> conn: maybe so
[12:10] <Seveas> dependencies are dependencies, libapt handles that just fine
[12:10] <nicholaspaul> nir: install it all and restart.
[12:10] <gnomefreak> nir_ why not keep it the same and just use synaptic to add xfce?
[12:11] <Seveas> aptitude is nicer when uninstalling, but mvo is putting that in apt too :)
[12:11] <frank23> nir_: you can install xubuntu-desktop
[12:11] <nicholaspaul> good idea gnomefreak :D
[12:11] <nir_> oki :)
[12:11] <nicholaspaul> hehe
[12:11] <gnomefreak> lol nicholaspaul
[12:11] <nicholaspaul> ;)
[12:11] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:11] <nir_> just apt-get install xubuntu-desktop :) ?
[12:11] <nir_> coz its comes with goodies :)
[12:11] <nir_> hehe
[12:11] <ptashek> Seveas, yes, but aptitude will fail in cases where apt-get will hapilly turn your OS into an broken packages nightmare
[12:11] <nalioth> nir_: are you using breezy?
[12:11] <nir_> yra
[12:11] <nir_> yea
[12:11] <conn> mwe, maybe running as sudo once will work, but when the next firefox update arrives on the beta channel, you'll have my problem, just a warning
[12:11] <Seveas> ptashek, ENEVERHAPPENEDHERE
[12:11] <Seveas> maybe a very old apt :)
[12:11] <nicholaspaul> nir: using synaptic is a little easier.
[12:11] <nalioth> nir_: then yes, xubuntu-desktop will get you xfce4 desktop
[12:11] <ptashek> Seveas, ever used Sid? ;-)
[12:11] <conn> mwe, the beta will use the same delta-patching as the nightlies
[12:11] <nir_> i dont like GUI :)
[12:12] <Seveas> ptashek, don't blame apt errors on sid
[12:12] <nicholaspaul> but nir... thats why i like XFCE :)
[12:12] <Seveas> btw: breezy in it's early days was bigger hell than experimental...
[12:12] <Seveas> and apt survived it :)
[12:12] <mwe> conn: If next beta sucks I'll just stay with beta2 for now
[12:12] <dekela> BTW.. What do you guys thinkk about Gentoo? I am planning to try it, After I get familiar with Linux more..(I like that fact that I compile everything)
[12:12] <som1> um, if ubuntu "automatically" does the grub thing, why does it ignore every other installed OS -but- windows?
[12:12] <ptashek> Seveas, yes, yes, it's unstable :-)
[12:12] <davmor2> nir_ is it as fast on 64bit
[12:13] <nicholaspaul> som1, it doesnt ignore OSX. It creates a dual boot system
[12:13] <som1> heh, i compile everything from source in here, took 2~3 hours for firefox.
[12:13] <frank23> dekela: I tried to install gentoo and failed....
[12:13] <som1> nicholaspaul, yeah, well, it ignores my dear netbsd :(
[12:13] <nalioth> dekela: you can compile everything here
[12:13] <nicholaspaul> oh. som1. Sorry :
[12:13] <Seveas> dekela, gentoo is broken by design
[12:13] <gnomefreak> gentoo= pain in the butt :(
[12:13] <som1> but it nice to know it doesnt ignore other BSDs :)
[12:13] <test34> dekela, it's not worth to compile everything I think
[12:13] <kbrooks> broken by design?
[12:13] <som1> its*
[12:13] <dekela> Why do you think that?
[12:14] <ptashek> anybody with Fedora Core 4 past here, that could compare it to Ubuntu?
[12:14] <Ravensky> :D
[12:14] <gnomefreak> i like fc4
[12:14] <Seveas> google for "gentoo is for ricers" :)
[12:14] <kbrooks> Seveas: .....
[12:14] <dekela> I see a lot of recommendetions about portage (thier package managment system) and the optimization flags)
[12:14] <gnomefreak> but it and ubuntu wont run on my pc together
[12:14] <som1> test34, its worth if you dont use i386, so u have a package manager for all archs
[12:14] <kbrooks> offensive
[12:14] <som1> like pkgsrc for netbsd.. it supports 54 archs so..
[12:15] <marsh> hey y'all
[12:15] <som1> hey
[12:15] <gnomefreak> hi mar
[12:15] <gnomefreak> marsh*
[12:15] <redeeman> hello
[12:15] <davmor2> hio
[12:15] <davmor2> hi even] 
[12:15] <redeeman> when i choose network servers in places
[12:15] <marsh> hi Gnomefreak. anyone know about partitions?
[12:15] <ptashek> gnomefreak, apart from Fedora using Gnome 2.10, any thoughts on it against Ubuntu?
[12:15] <dekela> test34 well .. Beside the fact that it take some time.. I think it will run better on the pc in the end
[12:15] <Seveas> kbrooks, no, the thing that will come up is actually funny and not offensive :)
[12:16] <redeeman> then it scans for a while, and finds windows network, but when i go in there, it finds nothing
[12:16] <gnomefreak> if i try the fc4 install again and grub wont see the ubuntu os what do i need to put in the grub menu
[12:16] <nalioth> dekela: to you the human, the difference will be almost imperceptible
[12:16] <dekela> marsh soot
[12:16] <gnomefreak> fedora uses gnome 2.10?
[12:16] <test34> dekela, well just do it and stop asking
[12:16] <Seveas> and to quote jdub: "Gentoo is an ancient african word that means: I'm tired of compiling gentoo all the time" :)
[12:16] <kbrooks> Seveas: well i posted the link to there in #gentoo ... and i got banned
[12:16] <redeeman> is there a way i can it work? i know there are smb shares on the network
[12:16] <marsh> ie) if i'm partitioning a hdd - do i 'create an empty DOS partition label'
[12:16] <Seveas> kbrooks, lol :)
[12:16] <marsh> or is DOS a MS thing?
[12:16] <Ravensky> I thought fedora used KDE
[12:16] <kbrooks> Seveas: seriously
[12:17] <gnomefreak> Ravensky,  it does
[12:17] <dekela> test34 dotn get angree
[12:17] <dekela> dont
[12:17] <Seveas> kbrooks, they're so easily offended...
[12:17] <marsh> fedora uses both doesn't it?
[12:17] <ptashek> Ravensky, it delivers Gnome, but uses KDE 3.4 as default
[12:17] <nicholaspaul> marsh technically speaking, MS DOS is an MS thing. But DOS just means Disk Operating System.
[12:17] <marsh> (gnome kde)
[12:17] <gnomefreak> you can install either/both/all
[12:17] <dekela> I am just rasing a point here. worth for discussion
[12:17] <Ravensky> ...although I used FC2 for about 4 or 5 months
[12:17] <immolo> Seveas-  There is a simlar quote for ubuntu "Ubuntu is an ancient african word that means: I couldn't get gentoo to work"
[12:18] <Seveas> immolo, lol :)
[12:18] <marsh> nicholaspaul, so I'm not headed the wrong way by creating one?
[12:18] <marsh> excellent.
[12:18] <gnomefreak> is there a grub "guide" anywhere i use the word guide loosly
[12:18] <nicholaspaul> i wouldnt say so.. go nuts, marsh ;)
[12:18] <test34> dekela, I'm not angry, but why do you ask if you already have a fixed idea?
[12:18] <marsh> thanks gents
[12:18] <Seveas> immolo, that's not nearly offensive enough ;)
[12:18] <Seveas> !grub
[12:18] <ubotu> I heard grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:18] <gnomefreak> ty
[12:18] <dekela> I dont.. I am just saying what I read.. and disscussed with people.. I am still open for new comments
[12:19] <bluefrog-10> hi has anyone installed a samba-ldap system on breezy by chance?
[12:19] <marsh> am nutsin' my arse off!!
[12:19] <ptashek> it's sooooo nice to have a local ubuntu mirror :-)
[12:19] <marsh> cheers nicholaspaul
[12:19] <immolo> Seveas-  No but it made me laugh, I think of ubuntu of a starting distro like fc and mandiva and then you move to gentoo, debian or slack
[12:19] <KinkoBlast> is there a dos-like command line (command.com) imitation for Ubuntu?
[12:19] <ptashek> 34mins and the ISO is here
[12:19] <ptashek> KinkoBlast, try dosemu?
[12:19] <dekela> BTW.. Should I use blackports for my package managment?
[12:19] <nicholaspaul> ;) march
[12:19] <marsh> right - gotta go shutdown - apply this partition table...
[12:20] <Seveas> immolo, then I'll be a starter forever :)
[12:20] <Seveas> dekela, no
[12:20] <davmor2> ptashek 28 mins for mine on the day of release
[12:20] <Seveas> backports break things
[12:20] <KinkoBlast> ptashek: Dosemu?
[12:20] <nicholaspaul> KinkoBlast you mean terminal?
[12:20] <marsh> Am now the owner of 200Gb of raw HDD realestate :)
[12:20] <immolo> Seveas-  I said that when I first used mandrake :P
[12:20] <nalioth> KinkoBlast: a terminal? many of them
[12:20] <test34> immolo, I moved from slack to ubuntu because I got lazy
[12:20] <Seveas> immolo, hehe
[12:20] <KinkoBlast> nicholaspaul: No, I meen like command.com as opposed to bash.
[12:20] <ptashek> KinkoBlast, DOS Emulator
[12:20] <dekela> So If I want.. For example.. To use Azureus as my main bitorrent client and not the one that comes with Ubuntu.. how can I find it?
[12:20] <nicholaspaul> oh ok kinkoblast. dunno...
[12:21] <nalioth> KinkoBlast: or maybe you mean 'dosemu' to emulate an actuall dos environment
[12:21] <immolo> test34-  and that's what linux is about, choice
[12:21] <KinkoBlast> nalioth: There is such a thing?
[12:21] <nalioth> KinkoBlast: yes watch ubotu
[12:21] <corincole> can someone please help me?
[12:21] <nalioth> !dosemu
[12:21] <ubotu> I don't know, nalioth
[12:21] <KinkoBlast> nalioth: That wasn't what I ment, but that would be sweet! (I like Lemmings!)
[12:21] <nalioth> !info dosemu
[12:21] <ubotu> dosemu: (The Linux DOS Emulator), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 904 kB, Installed size: 2128 kB
[12:21] <immolo> test34-  and something about a free open source movement :P
[12:21] <nalioth> corincole: if you ask us something
[12:22] <corincole> ok
[12:22] <corincole> prboom
[12:22] <davmor2> dekela goto azureus site there is a linux compatible version download it and read the instructions on the site they are quite easy to follow
[12:22] <corincole> apte-get install prboom
[12:22] <corincole> pat-get*
[12:22] <corincole> apt-get*
[12:22] <corincole> thats not working...?
[12:22] <nalioth> dekela: there are non java alternatives to everything ( i dont like java)
[12:22] <corincole> it worked for a friend, not for me...?
[12:23] <KinkoBlast> drat, you tell me about that sort of thing RIGHT after I close synaptic
[12:23] <corincole> ?
[12:23] <bluefrog-10> hi has anyone installed a samba-ldap system on breezy by chance?
[12:24] <dekela> nalioth, such as? I like Azureus because it is informative.. Slick design.. And Gnome Bitorrent is very simple
[12:24] <corincole> lol Seveas
[12:24] <corincole> can anyone help me?
[12:24] <nalioth> dekela: there are more than gnome-bittorent in the repos
[12:24] <KinkoBlast> what is the "bicyclerepair" package that you see when ubuntu installs?
[12:24] <Seveas> !info prboom
[12:24] <ubotu> prboom: (clone of the legendary first person shooter Doom), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 2:2.2.6-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 364 kB, Installed size: 884 kB
[12:24] <Seveas> corincole, enable universe
[12:24] <dekela> nalioth, BTW.. I dont like Java too.. Should I jussst search for Bitorrent.. Or do you have any suggestion?
[12:25] <Seveas> !tell corincole about repos
[12:25] <corincole> how do I enable it?
[12:25] <Seveas> ubotu, told you
[12:25] <ubotu> Seveas: Are you smoking crack?
[12:25] <nalioth> dekela: bittornado-gui
[12:25] <Seveas> ubotu, yes
[12:25] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, seveas?
[12:25] <corincole> i have hoary hedgehog version...
[12:25] <dekela> nalioth, cool.. I will give it a try. 10x
[12:25] <corincole> does that matter?
[12:25] <davmor2> dekela bittorrnado is in the repos
[12:25] <Seveas> !info prboom hoary
[12:25] <ubotu> prboom: (clone of the legendary first person shooter Doom), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 2:2.2.6-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 370 kB, Installed size: 892 kB
[12:25] <Seveas> hoary has it too :)
[12:25] <corincole> so how do i get it to work
[12:26] <nalioth> dekela: you read all the info ubotu sent you, enable universe and multiverse and have fun searching synaptic afterwards for software
[12:26] <corincole> ?
[12:26] <dekela> BTW.. Dont you just hate it when web sites dont use standards???!!!
[12:27] <JazzCraze1> might anybody help me with this error when i run "make": "make[1] : *** No rule to make target"
[12:27] <corincole> anyone?
[12:27] <Seveas> dekela, yes
[12:27] <dekela> I hate that M$ take over
[12:27] <corincole> Seveas, what do I do to get it to work?
[12:27] <dekela> The Web should be Open and free
[12:27] <KinkoBlast> dekela: Almost as much as I love sites that use ActiveX and VBScript.
[12:27] <Seveas>  you read all the info ubotu sent you, enable universe and multiverse and have fun searching synaptic afterwards for software
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[12:27] <m0pher> Can someone help with Samba problems?
[12:27] <corincole> how do I enable univers and multiverse?
[12:27] <spdf> Hey fellas.. I can't seem to figure out how to craft a propwer modprobe.d/ config file.. I want to autoload the powernow and cpu scalling modules on boot, but I'm a tard... is someone capable of walking me through what I'd need to put in to make that happen?
[12:27] <Seveas>  you read all the info ubotu sent you, enable universe and multiverse and have fun searching synaptic afterwards for software <== corincole
[12:28] <Seveas> spdf, bad
[12:28] <corincole> he didnt tell me about them
[12:28] <JazzCraze1> fyi dekela: ubuntulinux doesn't validate properly
[12:28] <JazzCraze1> but i feel ur pain
[12:28] <Seveas> add the module names to /etc/modules
[12:28] <corincole> I dont even know what they are...
[12:28] <JazzCraze1> ubuntulinux.org that is
[12:28] <m0pher> I've got Samba set up on 5.10, but my XP machine can only browse to the share. When prompted for a username/password, nothing works.
[12:28] <Seveas> corincole, that's why ubotu sent you info
[12:28] <thokra> Hi ... someone in the round who has installed 'openoffice-2.0' ....
[12:28] <spdf> Seveas, Ahh.. Easy enough.. I don't know why i didn't think of that..
[12:28] <corincole> Seveas, pm'ing you
[12:28] <Seveas> JazzCraze1, that's due to make-IE-work hacks...
[12:29] <spdf> Seveas, Thanks for the push :)
[12:29] <JazzCraze1> using repeated ids? no
[12:29] <JazzCraze1> they shud just use class
[12:29] <KinkoBlast> How do I do what ctrl-alt-delete does? (kill a dead app)?
[12:29] <m0pher> KinkoBlast: use the kill command
[12:29] <JazzCraze1> ok, i concede that i don't kno all the hacks goin into the website
[12:29] <JazzCraze1> so i'll shutup
[12:29] <JazzCraze1> nehoo...nebody here familiar with this error: "make[1] : *** No rule to make target"
[12:29] <bluefrog-10> mopher: what's the security in smb.conf
[12:29] <nalioth> KinkoBlast: hit alt-f2 and type "xkill" the next window you touch, dies
[12:29] <Seveas> JazzCraze1, ack, that's a plone stupidness
[12:30] <m0pher> bluefrog: user
[12:30] <KinkoBlast> /dev/brain: no such file or folder
[12:30] <Seveas> but very off topic in her, so i'm shutting up too
[12:30] <thokra> cause when i try to start the wizard by fax its such along time that a window appear and it seemed impossible to make s.th. with that?
[12:30] <bluefrog-10> mopher: can guest log in
[12:30] <JazzCraze1> hehehe seveas
[12:30] <m0pher> bluefrog: no
[12:30] <thokra> May be s.o ha s a similar problem??
[12:31] <bluefrog-10> mopher: do u have smbusers enabled with user mapping in it?
[12:31] <m0pher> bluefrog: where does that get defined? smb.conf?
[12:31] <dekela> nalioth, I just installed bitornado and I cant find it in the start menu
[12:31] <dekela> where is it?
[12:32] <nicholaspaul> I have a network problem too. Some pretty confusing stuff, anyone care to see a diagram of the network?
[12:32] <JazzCraze1> ne1 here successfully using intel 2915abg wifi in ubuntu?
[12:32] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - I would like to see it
[12:32] <nicholaspaul> I have some connections that work when they used to  - the only changes i made were installing Tiger and Breezy.
[12:32] <dekela> nicholaspaul, I can try to help..
[12:32] <nicholaspaul> ok spasmodo: http://www.nburmandesign.com/=stuff/topography.pdf dekela
[12:33] <nicholaspaul> thanks!
[12:33] <nalioth> dekela: hit alt-f2 and type btdownloadgui  <enter>
[12:33] <ptashek> see yous
[12:34] <nicholaspaul> :\
[12:34] <daved-> the ubuntu install cd will auto-shrink an ntfs partition?
[12:34] <Seveas> daved-, it can
[12:34] <dekela> Nada
[12:34] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - what is the problem?
[12:34] <dekela> gives an error that cant display the file://btdownloadgui
[12:34] <JazzCraze1> daved: mine did on my laptop
[12:34] <nalioth> daved-: yes it can
[12:35] <DShepherd> nalioth how do you escape out of xkill
[12:35] <nicholaspaul> only some of the connections work. I cant seem to be able to ssh 192.168.0.101 anymore. , spasmodo
[12:35] <nalioth> dekela: open a terminal and type btdownloadgui or btdownloadgui.py
[12:35] <nalioth> DShepherd: you dont. click on your panel
[12:35] <nicholaspaul> and the Breezy laptop doesnt ssh to ANYthing (spasmodo)
[12:35] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - and you are certain that sshd is running?
[12:36] <nicholaspaul> spasmodo - its installed
[12:36] <nicholaspaul> well, ssh is
[12:36] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - I can see that ping is working
[12:36] <lordrm> hey, can anyone tell me how to set a resolution higher than 640x480? it's the only resolution that appears in the list
[12:36] <bas_> Hello
[12:36] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul are any other network conenctions?
[12:36] <dekela> nalioth, check this: bash: btdownloadgui: command not found
[12:36] <dekela> dekela@monster:~$ btdownloadgui.py
[12:36] <dekela> bash: btdownloadgui.py: command not found
[12:36] <dekela> dekela@monster:~$
[12:36] <Suspect> my question is the same
[12:37] <nicholaspaul> only the ones on the chart, spasmodo.
[12:37] <nicholaspaul> does it make sense?
[12:37] <spasmodo> yes
[12:37] <Suspect> except mine is higher than that but should be able to go higher
[12:37] <nicholaspaul> phew :)
[12:37] <DShepherd> nalioth so you must kill something...hmm.. by the way I killed my panel and gaim died with it
[12:37] <nalioth> dekela: i'm kinda lost on ubuntu's bittornado, since i compiled my own and i have no clue how it starts in ubuntu
[12:37] <nalioth> DShepherd: it'll come back, unless you clicked on the gaim button
[12:37] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - you cannot connect to ssh on the Hoary box, correct?
[12:37] <JazzCraze1> has nebody here ever encountered this error when running make: "make[1] : *** No rule to make target"
[12:38] <dekela> nalioth, I see.. Thanks anyway
[12:38] <GNAM> JazzCraze1 no makefile present
[12:38] <AndieB> Hi all!
[12:38] <frank23> JazzCraze1: did you run ./configure ?
[12:38] <JazzCraze1> there is a makefile present
[12:38] <nicholaspaul> i have two hoary boxes, spasmodo. ubuntunes (bottom one) connects just fine , Ubuntutu doesnt.
[12:38] <JazzCraze1> tried that earlier...got no file or directory error
[12:38] <bas_> Im noob to linux. I got Ubuntu 5.10 yesterday and now i miss a program to drive steam. I have heard about cedega. Any there can help? Etc. Messenger ?
[12:38] <JazzCraze1> which seems to be true
[12:39] <lordrm> can anyone answer me?
[12:39] <dekela> nicholaspaul, Can you send me your Ubuntu network config
[12:39] <lordrm> how do i set a resolution higher than 640x480
[12:39] <dekela> IP, Subnet..
[12:39] <DShepherd> nalioth nope it kill gaim again
[12:39] <nicholaspaul> sure dekela - http://www.nburmandesign.com/=stuff/topography.pdf
[12:39] <nalioth> DShepherd: what are you trying to kill?
[12:39] <DShepherd> nalioth i clearly clicked the panel only
[12:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lordrm about fixres
[12:40] <geno_> Coz: you there?
[12:40] <bas_> any there know to cedega ?
[12:40] <JazzCraze1> frank23: "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory" is the response...and yes, i made sure i'm in the right directory
[12:40] <dekela> nicholaspaul, So just to make sure I understand
[12:40] <nicholaspaul> k
[12:40] <DShepherd> nalioth I was just testing it out. I sawthat you guys were just talking about..
[12:40] <dekela> nicholaspaul, none of the Hory boxes cant connect to the Internet?
[12:40] <popey> lordrm: what video card does your machine have?
[12:40] <Suspect> DOES N E ONE have Ubuntu on a IBM T30?
[12:40] <nicholaspaul> dekela, they can connect to the internet, all the boxes can, its just within the intranet that i have trouble.
[12:40] <frank23> JazzCraze1: read the readme or install text files to know how to compile you program I guess
[12:41] <JazzCraze1> tried that already :( following it step by step
[12:41] <lordrm> popey: is there a way I can check from ubuntu
[12:41] <nicholaspaul> dekela - and the pings/lack of pings are what confuse me more!
[12:41] <popey> lordrm: in a terminal type "lspci", it shouild be in the list
[12:42] <dekela> Ok.. Lets see.. No Ping..No FW?
[12:42] <dekela> Same subnet?
[12:42] <lordrm> popey - "Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device"
[12:42] <frank23> JazzCraze1: what does it says you should do?
[12:42] <JazzCraze1> frank23: hold on i'll open it again
[12:43] <nicholaspaul> dekela, yup, same subnet. no fw no
[12:43] <dekela> Do you have Default GW configured on any of them?
[12:43] <nicholaspaul> wassat?
[12:43] <dekela> nicholaspaul, ?
[12:44] <DShepherd> how do I launch gnomes cd/dvd creator?
[12:44] <nicholaspaul> whats GW?
[12:44] <dekela> Gate way
[12:44] <popey> lordrm: this might be one of those cards that shares main memory.. in the BIOS how much memory is given to the video adapter?
[12:44] <nicholaspaul> dekela  i think so yea.
[12:44] <QMario> Did any of you guys pluck the Windows key off your keyboards?
[12:44] <dekela> Remove it
[12:44] <nalioth> DShepherd: put a blank disk in the drive
[12:45] <dekela> What is your GW IP?
[12:45] <QMario> Dekela, you did?
[12:45] <dekela> Is it the router?
[12:45] <DShepherd> nalioth is that the only way to launch it
[12:45] <cevizoglu> QMario, I don't have a windows key  :D
[12:45] <nicholaspaul> they all connect to a router.
[12:45] <snooo> is breezy meant to recognise an ipod as soon as its plugged in? mine doesnt seem to be mounting
[12:45] <bobbyd> what options do I need to have to set on an NFS mount to allow me to execute files from it? I have exec set
[12:45] <QMario> !Ipod
[12:45] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[12:45] <spasmodo> snoo - install gtkpod
[12:45] <cevizoglu> snooo, yes
[12:45] <dekela> When a Default GW is defined.. The machine will try to go out thru the GW ip all the time
[12:45] <JazzCraze1> frank23: quote from INSTALL readme - "4. Do:	make acerhk.o		- kernel version 2.4 	make acerhk.ko		- kernel version 2.6
[12:46] <anatole> ummm, how do i play a mounted dvd-iso in mplayer?
[12:46] <nalioth> DShepherd: it's the only way i've found  (i use k3b to burn disks)
[12:46] <JazzCraze1> frank23: in my case, make acerhk.ko, since i'm runnin 2.6.12-9-386
[12:46] <snooo> spasmodo: will it only mount if that is installed?
[12:46] <DShepherd> nalioth ok
[12:46] <spasmodo> dekela - but the router is still the GW for the internal network
[12:46] <dekela> You can either remove it or: make sure your /etc/hosts file have entries for all your local machines
[12:46] <nalioth> DShepherd: the nautilus cd burner is very very simple
[12:46] <QMario> Why can't I touch the information on any of my Windows Partitions?
[12:47] <dekela> spasmodo, Dis you check the routing table there?
[12:47] <snooo> cevizoglu: well it doesnt seem to do anything when it is...
[12:47] <rixth> QMario, NTFS is read only.
[12:47] <DShepherd> nalioth too simple sometimes
[12:47] <cesar> hello!
[12:47] <cesar> i am new in linux
[12:47] <frank23> JazzCraze1: do you have gcc-3.4 installed?
[12:47] <snooo> oh
[12:47] <rixth> Hi cesar how can we help you?
[12:47] <snooo> no it does :-D
[12:47] <QMario> Rixth, how do you know I have an NTFS file system?
[12:47] <snooo> changed USB port and it was fine
[12:47] <snooo> weird
[12:47] <cesar> some can tell me how to install Eclipse in linux?
[12:47] <snooo> never mind
[12:47] <dekela> Forget about the /etc/hosts file.. This is only needed for name resolution
[12:47] <QMario> s/do/did
[12:47] <JazzCraze1> frank23: yes - "gcc-3.4 is already the newest version."
[12:47] <cesar> i downloaded it form eclipse.org
[12:48] <cesar> but is a zip
[12:48] <rixth> QMario, well, most Windows computers bought in the last 3 years do
[12:48] <bobbyd> cesar, use the synaptic package management tool
[12:48] <JazzCraze1> frank23: do u want to see the full result of running make?
[12:48] <cesar> sorry?
[12:48] <JazzCraze1> it's multiple lines, so i dint want to paste it in here
[12:48] <crimsun> eclipse-platform is in universe
[12:48] <cesar> i am sorry a speak english
[12:48] <QMario> Rixth, why is it read-only?
[12:48] <QMario> What about Partition Magic?
[12:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cesar about synaptic
[12:48] <nicholaspaul> dekela, spasmodo, i only changed : installing Tiger and Breezy on the laptop
[12:48] <QMario> !NTFS
[12:48] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:48] <bobbyd> cesar, under linux, software is installed through a package management system. Most software is available by just selecting it from a list
[12:48] <frank23> JazzCraze1: ok, paste it    http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:49] <cesar> ok
[12:49] <nalioth> cesar: what language do you speak?
[12:49] <cesar> spanish
[12:49] <rixth> rixth, because Linux has a tendancy to break the files on there (which is a fact, has happened to me)
[12:49] <nalioth> !es
[12:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:49] <dekela> nicholaspaul, I dont see how installing a new OS on a laptop can change a whole network setting.. What is the laptop role in the network?
[12:49] <JazzCraze1> frank23: ok it's there
[12:49] <cesar> but i understand english
[12:49] <JazzCraze1> frank23: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d3391
[12:50] <nicholaspaul> might thots exactly, dekela....all the boxes have the same function. Just file sharing.
[12:50] <nalioth> cesar: you now have 2 channels to use, if you wish
[12:50] <nalioth> cesar: ubotu has sent you some information in a private msg
[12:50] <nicholaspaul> theres no mail server or anything like that, except i do share 'Home Pages ' on Ubuntutu via Apache.
[12:50] <dekela> nicholaspaul, What is the laptop use?
[12:50] <dekela> Is that the GW?
[12:51] <nicholaspaul> work (tiger) and fun (breezy), dekela.
[12:51] <nicholaspaul> no, they all connect directly to the router .l
[12:51] <j0sh> Once I use CTRL-Z then bg to put an application in the background...how can I bring it back?
[12:51] <nicholaspaul> all wifi except for the breezy side of the laptop, which is ethernet
[12:51] <spasmodo> fg
[12:51] <Seveas> j0sh, fg
[12:51] <cesar> yes, thank you!
[12:51] <sorush20> why can't I view a bug that I reported in my bugzilla
[12:51] <j0sh> Seveas: thanks
[12:51] <dekela> So how can the laptop install (Which is a seperated machine.. Cause other devices to stop responding to one another?
[12:51] <cesar> im trying to see the web page...
[12:51] <frank23> JazzCraze1: I don't know what the problem is... sorry
[12:51] <dekela> I dont see the connection
[12:52] <JazzCraze1> frank23: it's ok...thx for ur help neway
[12:52] <NeverDream> if breezy looks/is this good, dapper is going to be _sweet_
[12:52] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - what did you draw that with?
[12:52] <nicholaspaul> i dont know dekela. Me either. Just that it worked before. I'm sure that isnt the 'cause' , but now the connections are fsck'd
[12:52] <frank23> JazzCraze1: np
[12:52] <nicholaspaul> spasmodo Macromedia Freehand.
[12:52] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul thanks
[12:52] <dekela> When you 'Shut down' the laptop.. is everything back to normal
[12:53] <dekela> ?
[12:53] <nicholaspaul> :)
[12:53] <nicholaspaul> i havent tried dekela.  one sec..
[12:53] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul was the machine tiger only first?
[12:53] <nicholaspaul> dekela, i just turned off the airport.
[12:53] <nicholaspaul> yes spasmodo
[12:53] <sorush20> why can't I view a bug that I reported in my bugzilla http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3392
[12:53] <dekela> Why the airport?
[12:54] <snooo> right
[12:54] <dekela> isnt that your switch?
[12:54] <snooo> another problem
[12:54] <snooo> when i try to eject the ipod so i can unplug it, nautilus provides me with a helpful error.
[12:55] <corvix> good evening ...
[12:55] <nicholaspaul> dekela, no i mean the airport wifi card in the laptop. (Using the same name for a router and a card is dumb!)
[12:55] <Robi-> does anyone run soft-raid?
[12:55] <corvix> does anyone know if OpenOffice2RC2 from the breezy release will be updated to 2 final in Breezy?
[12:56] <snooo> what could it be?
[12:56] <dekela> I keep on disconnecting from the IRC server.. Anyone knows why??
[12:56] <SillyCone> Hi, I'm trying to automount an ext3 hard drive, I added it to fstab, how can I set the permissions so that my user account is allowed to write to the drive? (im mounting it into a new directory that's located in root)
[12:56] <tyler90> hey guys
[12:57] <dekela> SillyCone, I think you need to set rw or defaults in the fstab file
[12:57] <nicholaspaul> well dekela, it seems that ubuntutu CAN connect to the laptop (Tiger)
[12:57] <nalioth> corvix: breezy finaled last week
[12:57] <nicholaspaul> dekela - disconnecting prob could be your client.
[12:57] <tyler90> im trying to install all the codecs that i need to play mp3, divx, etc. could someone point me to a guide?
[12:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tyler90 about mp3
[12:58] <tyler90> what about divs and such?
[12:58] <tyler90> *divx
[12:58] <nalioth> tyler90: read the URL
[12:58] <fredmorcos> hey
[12:58] <fredmorcos> did anyone get apt-build working fine on breezy????
[12:58] <tyler90> so they are all here?
[12:58] <nalioth> tyler90: ubotu has sent you all you'll need to know
[12:58] <dekela> nicholaspaul, I gotta to go
[12:58] <SillyCone> dekela, thanks
[12:58] <tyler90> alright man thanks alot
[12:59] <dekela> I am sorry if I couldnt help
[12:59] <dekela> I hope you'll fix it in the end
[12:59] <corvix> nalioth: i know ... but RC2 to final is noe a real version upgrade, so it wouldnt conflict with the ubuntu upgrade rules. ...
[12:59] <fredmorcos> anyone??
[12:59] <nalioth> corvix: are you running ubuntu now?
[12:59] <QMario> Where do I get the JRE Plug-in for Firefox?
[12:59] <corvix> nalioth: jupp
[12:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell QMario about javadeb
[01:00] <nalioth> corvix: well, if you've paid attention to it, you are now running breezy + 7days
[01:00] <QMario> Nalioth
[01:01] <nicholaspaul> ok thx for your help dekela
[01:01] <QMario> Nalioth, I already have JRE for Ubuntu Breezy but not as a plugin.
[01:01] <nicholaspaul> oops, missed him...
[01:01] <nicholaspaul> spasmodo, any ideas?
[01:01] <nalioth> QMario: you should have the plugin, too
[01:01] <QMario> How do I know if I have the plugin with a terminal.
[01:01] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - maybe
[01:01] <corvix> nalioth: ... oh really ;-) ... no serious, i realised it ... and im with breezy im using OpenOfficeRC2 ... so will they include OpenOffice final (which came out today) in an breezy update?
[01:01] <QMario> Apparently, no.
[01:01] <nicholaspaul> i'll pay you well... !
[01:01] <nalioth> QMario: see the java wiki page
[01:01] <snooo> every time i use ubuntu to access my ipod, it reboots afterwards
[01:01] <QMario> !Java
[01:01] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[01:01] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - just a guess, but it sounds like an IP address conflict
[01:01] <snooo> has anyone seen anything similar?
[01:01] <nalioth> corvix: that remains to be seen
[01:01] <nicholaspaul> oh ok spasmodo.
[01:01] <Spudchat> hi everyone
[01:02] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - I can see the chart, and the IPs on there, but that is what it sounds like
[01:02] <corvix> nalioth: ... ah well .. could have asked my coffee pot, ... no offence, just joking ...
[01:02] <nicholaspaul> i have a feeling i had it set to 'static'. - it made bookmarks easier. spasmodo.
[01:02] <Spudchat> im having a hard time gettin my printer to work...its a lexmark x1150 and i have it connected to a windows machine thats sharing it
[01:02] <nicholaspaul> aah.. lemme check.
[01:02] <axeus> Herm.
[01:02] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - why do you have different IPs for each OS?
[01:03] <nicholaspaul> Tiger is wifi, Breezy is ethernet straight to the router.
[01:03] <axeus> I installed the j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin...
[01:03] <lsuactiafner> SillyCone : dont mount under root. mount under /mnt/something
[01:03] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - DHCP?
[01:03] <lsuactiafner> mkdir /mnt/01
[01:03] <axeus> On Breezy with Firefox 1.0.6
[01:03] <axeus> Crashes when you try to load the jre. S
[01:03] <axeus> :S *
[01:03] <axeus> (Breezy Preview)
[01:04] <nicholaspaul> spasmodo.. er.. i dunno..
[01:04] <spasmodo> I am running 2.6.12-9-k7
[01:04] <rixth> I can't believe the amount of problems going from Hoary to Breezy has given me. Things like: GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:04] <rixth> Could not open network socket. <<<>>> Then the application runs very slow.
[01:04] <spasmodo> can I delete all of my other kernel headers?
[01:04] <Rat> Hey guys, I ran into a problem while installing Ubuntu and now my computer is not bootable. For some reason it gives me a Grub error 21... I don't see how though, since I deleted the partition for Ubuntu to hopefully get rid of my problems... I have ran Windows XP repair CD to see if it could correct it and it could not... Does anyone know how to correct this problem?
[01:05] <nicholaspaul> yea spasmodo, i checked Network Settings and its set to DHCP
[01:05] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - so tiger can now connect to the ubuntu boxes?
[01:05] <Rat> Is there anyway to correct this without screwing up my partitions?
[01:05] <nalioth> spasmodo: if they dont match any kernels you run
[01:05] <nicholaspaul> spasmodo lemme check
[01:06] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - it is DHCP in breezy, and tiger?
[01:06] <dfeed> Hello everyone, anyone feel like giving me a few pointers on how to get my modem working? I've installed drivers for it, but trying to get it to dial just fails silently.
[01:06] <nalioth> Rat: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3275
[01:06] <corvix> rat: what did you do with the win repair?
[01:06] <corvix> rat: recover the MBR?
[01:06] <spasmodo> nalioth - thanks
[01:06] <nalioth> Rat: sorry, wrong URL
[01:06] <nalioth> Rat: here is the good one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:06] <dab> i just installed ubuntu 5.10 but the install didint ask me for root password... is there a default?
[01:07] <Rat> It did nothing to help my situation
[01:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dab about root
[01:07] <stevenj> can anyone suggest a new laptop to run breezy on? I have done some research, but its starts getting confusing after a while. Compaq, HP, Toshiba? thanks
[01:07] <spasmodo> dab - there is no root account by default
[01:07] <nalioth> stevenj: i have a HP dv1000 and it works well ootb
[01:07] <kent> is there any reason why evolution in breezy wont show my emails on my local imap account. I can see them in squirrelmail webmail on my computer, and I can see them in mutt. In evolution I see that its 3519 mails in inbox, but I see no one in the list :( I need to sort them, and evolution is the best application for that since I dont like mutt :(
[01:07] <Rat> brb... Going to go check out the info...
[01:07] <dab> yah but then how can i install anything???
[01:07] <stevenj> nalioth, thanks I will check into it
[01:07] <snugglemonkey> just wondering....   Is there an Unreal Dedicated server in ubuntu...  like a package for it?
[01:07] <spasmodo> dab - sudo
[01:08] <dab> the update ask me password
[01:08] <nalioth> dab: read the URL ubotu sent you
[01:08] <flozilum> can someone lend a hand installing updated kernel source?
[01:08] <corvix> nalioth: i dont think he can recover ubuntu since he deleted that partition .. to recover win he needs to rewrite MBR? doesnt he?
[01:08] <dab> i enter mine and wont access
[01:08] <jrattner1> Is there an americas army package for ubuntu
[01:08] <nalioth> corvix: i'm lost on the problem. i thought he wanted to fix his grub?
[01:08] <dabaR> jrattner1: ask the vendor.
[01:09] <Rat> oh sorry
[01:09] <dooglus> I googled for "gentoo is for ricers".  It asked me: Did you mean: "gentoo is for ravers"
[01:09] <jrattner1> dabaR, k
[01:09] <corvix> nalioth: install did give a grup failure, then delete partition didnt solve, then win recovery didnt solve ...
[01:09] <Rat> I was just looking at the websites
[01:09] <tellutellu> a
[01:09] <stevenj> nalioth, whoa cool lapt but kinda outta my range.. (1K - 1.2K) :)
[01:09] <corvix> rat: did you touch the win partition and waht did you do under the win rescue?
[01:10] <dfeed> So, any ideas how to get my modem working? Or even where to start with working out what the problem is with it?
[01:10] <rixth> Okay, I have a xine process that is using 812mb of virtual memor, 180mb of real memorty & using 75% of my cpu. I can't do 'killall xine' it doesn't work. I restarted X, that didn't work. How can I kill it?
[01:10] <tellutellu> where do I mange adsl connection?
[01:10] <Rat> I didn't touch the win partition... I have two hard drives... One I put ubuntu on and one i put windows on... (I ran Windows Repair CD by just running it aand tryed recovering...
[01:10] <tellutellu> *manage
[01:10] <nickgr> I'm trying to compile a module a raid card I have iteraid.c and iteraid.h and a Makefile which I've downloaded but the google isn't showing up the next step anyone know somewhere for some info?
[01:10] <nalioth> Rat: if you download a win98 floppy image from bootdisk.com and fdisk for x86 and pair them up, running 'fdisk /mbr' will fix you up
[01:10] <immolo> rixth-  killalll xine-ui?
[01:10] <nicholaspaul> spasmodo - no, Tiger can still only reach the one Hoary box, not the other.
[01:11] <corvix> rat: so when you boot now grub still shows up ...
[01:11] <nalioth> Rat: the windows rescue stuff absolutely sucks hard
[01:11] <corvix> rat: and you cant use grub to boot into win?
[01:11] <nicholaspaul> nalioth: Have you seen my network chart?
[01:11] <nalioth> corvix: grub lived on the ubuntu partition
[01:11] <Rat> No, I get the erro 21 when booting grub
[01:11] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: i have not. i avoid pdf
[01:11] <corvix> nalioth: win rescue is hard, but can help recovering at least the win MBR
[01:11] <redeeman> i got a problem
[01:11] <rixth> immolo, the process is called just xine & after I restarted X, there is no UI onscreen.
[01:12] <nalioth> corvix: read what i posted to rat above
[01:12] <redeeman> i apt-get installed ifplugd, and then i did apt-get remove ifplugd
[01:12] <nicholaspaul> nalioth: would you like a png instead? i could really use some help here :D
[01:12] <redeeman> then i removed /etc/init.d/ifplugd - and apt-get install ifplugd
[01:12] <Rat> So I should try getting a  floppy and doing that?
[01:12] <redeeman> how come it doesent give me /etc/init.d/ifplugd again?
[01:12] <rixth> Is there a nastier signal I can send other than kill?
[01:12] <nicholaspaul> rixth: GoToDentist
[01:12] <dabaR> rixth: what does sudo killall xine(if that is the exact name of the process) do?
[01:12] <corvix> rat: what i would try, without any warranties, is to boot the win rescue to console and use fdisk /mbr or whatever its called to recover the win MBR ... be shure that the right partition is set to bootable
[01:13] <corvix> nalioth: what do you think?
[01:13] <nalioth> corvix: it wont work
[01:13] <rixth> dabaR, nothing. Just drops me back to the command line.
[01:13] <nickgr> the command is fixmbr of a win 2000 cd
[01:13] <nalioth> corvix: the winxp/2k rescue stuff is pure shite
[01:13] <corvix> nalioth: why, i think i did tyhat before .. long time ago
[01:13] <dabaR> rixth: and you checked, and the process is still there?
[01:13] <nalioth> Rat: if you download a win98 floppy image from bootdisk.com and fdisk for x86 and pair them up, running 'fdisk /mbr' will fix you up
[01:13] <nalioth> corvix:  ^^^^^
[01:14] <corvix> nalioth: not that bad .. it can help actually ... but just towards win :-(
[01:14] <rixth> dabaR, yes. Oh well, I need to restart anyway after installing a new kernel earlier today...
[01:14] <hedge_> needing a lil help with compiling a kernel anyone one wanna give it a whirl??
[01:14] <sexcopter8000m> can anyone point out why the option to resize a partition in gparted is greyed out for me? i have e2fsprogs installed.
[01:14] <corvix> nalioth: i think i didi that under the winxp rescue console as well
[01:14] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: are you trying to resize a mounted partition?
[01:14] <jbalint> how do I get standard /usr/lib headers installed?
[01:14] <nalioth> corvix: if you did, you are a better user than i
[01:14] <Rat> Can I run 'fdisk /mbr' on a live cd ?
[01:14] <sexcopter8000m> ah, yeah it is mounted, is that the problem?
[01:15] <Rat> FRom gentooo?
[01:15] <nalioth> jbalint: use synaptic and get them for your kernel version
[01:15] <Rat> or slax
[01:15] <nalioth> Rat: no
[01:15] <jbalint> nalioth: Any idea of the package name? Any why does it depend on the kernel version!?
[01:15] <corvix> rat: to get into you windows at least you need to do fdisk /mnr from some win boot ...
[01:15] <hedge_> needing a lil help with compiling a kernel anyone one wanna give it a whirl??
[01:15] <corvix> rat: doing fdisk /mbr from linux wont help afaik
[01:15] <nalioth> corvix: i've been through all of this rot recently, knoppix, ubuntu-live, win2k install cd, winxp install cd
[01:15] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth, in fact hwat i want to do is shrink my linux partition (since i overestimated the space i'd need) and give it back to windows, is that poss to do then?
[01:15] <Rat> So i must make up the floppy then with fdisk?
[01:16] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: do it from a livecd
[01:16] <corvix> rat: basically you need to recover your windows master boot record .. whatever way .. .maybe google for that?
[01:16] <bimberi> hedge_: there's some info here - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[01:16] <hedge_> ya been there done that
[01:16] <fredmorcos> guys, i really need help getting apt-build to work
[01:16] <jonny_> im a noob and need help with ubuntu 4.10
[01:16] <rain`> why the kicking?
[01:16] <nalioth> Rat: yes use a win98 boot floppy image and add a free fdisk to it (www.fdisk.com)
[01:17] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth, hmm, is it as simple as running the live cd and running gparted (is it on the livecd?) and voila?
[01:17] <nalioth> jonny_: ask your question
[01:17] <SEJeff> http://www.illusionary.com/bpl.html
[01:17] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: should be, yes
[01:17] <frank23> jonny_: not many people use 4.10
[01:17] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth, kk, thanks
[01:17] <jonny_> how can i install software on ubuntu
[01:17] <flozilum> anyone remember how to find out which kernel source is installed?
[01:17] <fredmorcos> jonny_, use the synaptic package manager
[01:17] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: but if you're gonna be dealing with ntfs, you'll need to enable uni and multi and get qtparted
[01:17] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - odd, I recommend double checking the IP addresses, just to be sure
[01:17] <Rat> okay ill try that out
[01:17] <SEJeff> jonny_: System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager
[01:18] <hedge_> flozilum: uname -r
[01:18] <flozilum> thanks
[01:18] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth, oh ok, what's the difference between qtparted and gparted?
[01:18] <corvix> nalioth: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/WinXP/Q_20932058.html shure thatll work?
[01:18] <marska> Running Gnome under Ubuntu and have tried removing programs, using XFCE4, but my system is always slow with a few mozilla windows open. Is there a way to speed up Gnome? (Using 256 megs of ram)
[01:18] <SEJeff> flozilum: Thats the command to list the currently running kernel, not the kernel source necessarily
[01:18] <nicholaspaul> ok spasmodo, i'll do that. But it is odd isnt it...
[01:18] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth, according to this, i can resize ntfs with gparted, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[01:18] <liransd_> hey
[01:19] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - yes, it is
[01:19] <Blissex> marska: GNOME is a bit painful in 256MB. Also, the real problem is usually browsers.
[01:19] <LazyAngel> anyone knows what the commands for lame is? (used by most rippers with vbr)
[01:19] <flozilum> SEJeff: i'm trying to determine if the running kernel will support the latest nvidia drivers -
[01:19] <frank23> sexcopter8000m: yes I resized a ntfs
[01:19] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - you might have to look into some type of directory services like OpenLDAP
[01:19] <Blissex> marska: also, if you are swapping there is a terrible imbecility in the swap code. It goes much faster if you set a certain kernel parameter to zero.
[01:19] <SEJeff> flozilum: If its a stock ubuntu kernel, you should have no problem
[01:20] <flozilum> sejEFF: 2.6.10-5-386 is returned by uname -r
[01:20] <Blissex> marska: I have written some advice on minimizing memory usage for KDE etc., but it applies also in large part to GNOME.
[01:20] <marska> Blissex: I've tried uninstalling Gnome and using xdm with XFCE but the system becomes unusable
[01:20] <nicholaspaul> spasmodo, thing is , it DID work before. Thats the weird thing... and under Panther, this Hoary box would show up in 'Network' in the finder.
[01:20] <corvix> rat: http://tinyurl.com/a2mxc
[01:20] <SEJeff> flozilum: And dpkg -l linux-kernel-headers will tell you the version of the kernel source code you have installed
[01:20] <marska> Blissex:  So what can I do within gnome?
[01:20] <Blissex> marska: XFCE4 is much much better than GNOME.
[01:20] <Blissex> marska: at least as to memory usage.
[01:21] <marska> Blissex: Yes.. But under Ubuntu, XFCE seems to be using all the Gnome libraries
[01:21] <Blissex> marska: some....
[01:21] <marska> Blissex: So the same problem applies
[01:21] <Rat> I dont have a floppy drive on the computer im using
[01:21] <Rat> ....
[01:21] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: whatever works for you. qtparted uses ntfsprogs while gparted (reportedly) does not
[01:21] <Blissex> marska: however have a look at these two links. How Linux experienced are you?
[01:21] <corvix> nalioth: seems to be the comand fixboot on rescue console
[01:21] <liransd_> uhmm, how do i add a full-screen image (splash) while booting instead of verbosely seeing all the boot/init process?
[01:21] <marska> Blissex: I've edited configuration files and am handy with emacs
[01:21] <Blissex> marska: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxKDE.html
[01:22] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth, it appears gparted can do it if you have ntfsprogs installed
[01:22] <flozilum> SEJeff : hoiw does one update the source ? i believe 2.5.9 is too old
[01:22] <Blissex> marska: if you are handy with Emacs you are experienced :-)
[01:22] <skywater> Hello. I need help for connecting to the internet. I followed the guide from ubuntuguide.org. I also use Wifi radar which i installed previously using synaptics. Why is wifi radar takes so long to connect to the internet?
[01:22] <SEJeff> flozilum: What distro are you running?
[01:22] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth, in any case i'll find a way with one programme of the other, thanks :)
[01:22] <flozilum> SEJeff : ubuntu 5.04
[01:22] <corvix> rat: still there?
[01:23] <lui> hello
[01:23] <Rat> yes... sorry
[01:23] <jonny_> how can u download apps off the internet
[01:23] <SEJeff> flozilum: sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[01:23] <Rat> about taht... im running the live cd for knoppix so i can boot that up to make the floppy
[01:23] <marska> Blissex: I still can't troubleshoot a Linux install though
[01:23] <gnomefreak> how do i get into grub menu so i can look at what partion ubuntu boot is on?
[01:23] <marska> Blissex: About your advice with KDE... I've done most of those things already
[01:24] <SEJeff> jonny_: Like I already said. System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager
[01:24] <fredmorcos> guys, apt-build is giving strange errors
[01:24] <Rat> Should i try reinstalling ubuntu..???
[01:24] <Blissex> marska: and this one http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-4th.html#051008
[01:24] <marska> Blissex: I'd rather net mess around with the kernel
[01:24] <Blissex> marska: just do those settings.
[01:24] <dabaR> gnomefreak: the file is /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[01:24] <corvix> rat: noo need i think
[01:24] <gnomefreak> ty
[01:24] <jonny_> i no... i did that but where r the files u downloaded from the net?
[01:24] <corvix> rat: read here: http://tinyurl.com/ysoub ... left side "restoring the MBR"
[01:25] <corvix> rat: this refers to the rescue console of XP
[01:25] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - sorry I can't help you find the problem
[01:25] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - I have to run
[01:25] <lui> I want to know how to make scripts
[01:25] <nicholaspaul> thats ok spasmodo, i appreciate your help :)
[01:25] <jonny_> ... o well
[01:25] <spasmodo> nicholaspaul - would you mind emailing me when you figure it out?
[01:25] <marska> Blissex: Perhaps I should migrate to Debian and use straight up XFCE?
[01:25] <SEJeff> lui: Google for advanced bash scripting guide. The one that is hosted at the linux documentation project is the one you want
[01:25] <nicholaspaul> sure thing :)
[01:25] <marska> Blissex: Gnome is slower than Windows XP
[01:25] <Blissex> marska: noooo.
[01:25] <Rat> Corivx, is it okay if i just start pming u... Due to the fact that i have to leave in a second o two...
[01:25] <flozilum> SEJeff:  returned "latest version"
[01:26] <SEJeff> jonny_: Those files are downloaded off the net from synaptic
[01:26] <Blissex> marska: yes, it is slower.
[01:26] <lui> thank you SEJeff
[01:26] <corvix> rat: shure
[01:26] <jonny_> o... ok
[01:26] <SEJeff> flozilum: your kernel is what? And your headers are 2.5.xx?
[01:26] <Blissex> marska: read this and cry: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-2nd.html#050512
[01:26] <dabaR> jonny_: did you read the synaptic page of the wiki? synaptic is used to download and install the programs in one step. the files are downloaded to /var/apt/archives or so, but you do not need to touch them.
[01:27] <Blissex> marska: however, there is now a _third_ variant of Ubuntu, called Xubuntu, precisely because of problems on low memory machines.
[01:27] <flozilum> SEJeff: kernel is 2.6.10-5
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ok its not showing me the boot partion just the root partion
[01:27] <flozilum> SEJeff: headers 2.5.99
[01:27] <dabaR> gnomefreak: rephrase your question then.
[01:27] <Blissex> marska: I managed to run KDE on my 800MHz/256MB laptop fairly decently.
[01:27] <somerville32> I'm looking to propose deploying linux in our schools. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[01:27] <spasmodo> Bye all
[01:27] <SEJeff> flozilum: Thats very weird, but you could try it out. You should install breezy, it is soooo much better :-)
[01:27] <marska> Blissex: Decently? Since when was 256 megs considered a low end system?
[01:27] <guru54__> Blissex, i managed KDE on a 500mhz P3 with 320mbs of ram
[01:28] <corvix> sommerville: heard of edubuntu?
[01:28] <somerville32> KDE runs fine for me on a 33mhz with 128mb of RAM
[01:28] <Blissex> guru54__: RAM matters a lot more than CPU speed with this.
[01:28] <guru54__> 256mbs of ram blows today
[01:28] <flozilum> SEJeff: painless way to install breezy?
[01:28] <somerville32> corvix: Yes
[01:28] <Blissex> marska: read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-2nd.html#050512
[01:28] <HrdwrBoB> somerville32: 'fine' is a relative term
[01:28] <somerville32> Indeed
[01:28] <corvix> sommerville: so what suggestion were you thinking about?
[01:28] <SEJeff> flozilum: Did you put /home on it's own partition during the install?
[01:28] <dabaR> gnomefreak: maybe sudo fdisk -l is what you want.
[01:28] <gnomefreak> im going to install fc4 on hdb and keep ubuntu on hda i need to know the partion that the boot ubuntu is on so i can add ubuntu to grub menu after i install fc4
[01:28] <Blissex> marska: 256MB is by today's standards a very low end system. There are many _video cards_ with 256MB.
[01:29] <marska> Blissex: I just read your article
[01:29] <SEJeff> flozilum: If you did, you could wipe everything except for /home and keep all of your settings with a fresh breezy install
[01:29] <flozilum> SEJeff: how could i check? fdisk?
[01:29] <SEJeff> flozilum: If you don't know, that means it is not
[01:29] <corvix> rat: i dont get any PMs?
[01:29] <marska> Blissex: Low end my arse... Bloatware Ba'h
[01:29] <somerville32> Corvix: The wesite for edubuntu doesn't tell me why it is good for deployment in schools
[01:29] <marska> Blissex: Have you tried Rox or XFCE?
[01:29] <SEJeff> flodine: do: grep home /etc/fstab
[01:29] <Blissex> marska: tried XFCE, it is pretty OK.
[01:29] <marska> Blissex: How do those compare to Gnome and XP?
[01:29] <marska> Blissex: I want something usable and snappy
[01:29] <Rat> corvix.... Did u get it ?
[01:30] <SEJeff> flozilum: do: grep home /etc/fstab, sorry wrong name autocompleted
[01:30] <marska> Blissex: Or I may as well go back to XP because I'm not dealing with this slow down
[01:30] <Blissex> marska: well, XFCE is a lot better than GNOME, and roughly comparable to XP, perhaps even a bit better.
[01:30] <corvix> sommerville: i thouht about that as well ... its not very descriptive, i think they got more of the tools used in education installed by standard
[01:30] <corvix> rat: got waht?
[01:30] <Blissex> marska: check out Xubuntu... It is just Ubuntu preconfigured for XFCE4.
[01:30] <Rat> I sent u a pm
[01:30] <gnomefreak> i see a root (hd0,0 and i see a /boot/initrd.img (kernel) and i see a /boot//vmlinuz-kernel root=/dev/hda1
[01:30] <somerville32> Do you really think linux is ready for wide-spread deployment?
[01:31] <corvix> rat: didnt get, got icq or something?
[01:31] <SEJeff> Blissex: Are you psychotic? xfce is a 'lightweight' window manager. Gnome has many more features than xfce and it is crap compared to xp
[01:31] <marska> Blissex: This is stupid.. So Linux isn't better than XP
[01:31] <JazzCraze1> how do i untar a bz2 file in terminal?
[01:31] <Rat> yes msn...
[01:31] <sexcopter8000m> is there a tool out there, or website etc, to determine the up and download speeds of one's internet connection?
[01:31] <SEJeff> marska: I think gnome is much better than xp when you remove all of the ubuntu default theming
[01:31] <JazzCraze1> sexcopter: google for "bandwidth test"
[01:31] <JazzCraze1> there's lots of sites for that
[01:31] <marska> SEJeff: Its still slow
[01:31] <Rat> i can get aim...
[01:31] <sexcopter8000m> JazzCraze1, kk thanks
[01:31] <corvix> jazzcrazel: tar xvfj
[01:31] <somerville32> I like XFCE
[01:31] <SEJeff> marska: My gnome desktop: http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/Screenshot.jpg
[01:32] <corvix> rat: no msn here ...
[01:32] <Rat> aim?
[01:32] <Blissex> SEJeff: XFCE4 is actually a full desktop environment, and even if it has a few less features than GNOME, it is fairly fully featured anyhow.
[01:32] <corvix> rat: wait a sek
[01:32] <dabaR> gnomefreak: does your system now auto boot ubuntu? I mean, if you just let it boot, it boots ubuntu?
[01:32] <sunil> how do i instal a rogram? i have RealPlayer10GOLD.bin in my Home folder
[01:32] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:32] <corvix> rat: got java running in webbbrowser?
[01:32] <dabaR> gnomefreak: paste your menu.lst file to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:32] <Rat> yes, of course
[01:33] <JazzCraze1> corvix: thanks!
[01:33] <SEJeff> Blissex: I have my parents using xfce on their old crappy computer with nautilus managing the desktop. I know what it is. I also know that it doesn't compare to XP very well
[01:33] <somerville32> What would be the best desktop for deployment in the education sector?
[01:33] <gnomefreak> k
[01:33] <SEJeff> somerville32: gnome
[01:33] <dabaR> sunil: chmod +x
[01:33] <corvix> rat: http://tinyurl.com/bsplc
[01:33] <SEJeff> somerville32: See edubuntu
[01:33] <sunil> where do i type chmod +x
[01:33] <dabaR> sunil: chmod +x realplayer...bin
[01:34] <dabaR> In a terminal. Or right click the file, properties, and permissions, then nmake it executable.
[01:34] <Blissex> SEJeff: thats a bit of a bizarre opinion to me. Especially as using Nautilus under XFCE4 basically is much the same as using all of GNOME, because Nautilus incorporates most of GNOME :-).
[01:34] <gnomefreak> heres grub menu list http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3393
[01:34] <sexcopter8000m> SEJeff, how did you get those things down the right-hand side? they look cool. are they "desklets" or "widgets" or something?
[01:34] <somerville32> Ok, stop telling me to see edubuntu... there isn't anything to see. It gives me very little information on their website.
[01:35] <cesar> how can i configure the hotmail in Evolution?
[01:35] <SEJeff> Blissex: Umm... nautilus encompasses nautilus and gnome-volume-manager. Gnome-session is what takes up so much memory
[01:35] <SEJeff> sexcopter8000m: sudo apt-get install gdesklets gdesklets-data
[01:35] <dabaR> gnomefreak: add the http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3394 to your grub after you install fc4. thats all to allow ubuntu to boot, really. Also, while youi install grub for fedora, it should find other OSs, and add an entry for them automatically, without you doing anything.
[01:35] <Blissex> SEJeff: well, 'gnome-session' does its bit, but it is not most of the story...
[01:35] <tellutellu> hi
[01:36] <FlannelKing> anyone have any idea why squeak is in Sound and Video instead of programming (in the add applications menu)?
[01:36] <SEJeff> sexcopter8000m: To make them appear when you login, go to System --> Preferences --> Sessions --> start. Add in gdesklets
[01:36] <dabaR> sunil: after you have made the file executable, double click it, or in a terminal type in ./realplayer...bin and press enter.
[01:36] <sunil> what do i do once it is made executable?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> dabaR, for some reason no RH product sees ubuntu as another os
[01:36] <marska> Blissex: Are there any truly light and usable desktop interfaces?
[01:36] <dabaR> gnomefreak: then add that line to grub, that is all afaik.
[01:36] <tellutellu> how can I uninstall applications?
[01:36] <marska> Blissex: I remember hearing about performance better than XP
[01:36] <SEJeff> Blissex: Gnome session is what makes gnome a beast. Take a look at the Nat's "gnome-session" bash script replacement that allows you to login to gnome in a few seconds
[01:37] <sexcopter8000m> ok, thanks SEJeff :)
[01:37] <gnomefreak> dab add one full entry thats it?
[01:37] <bimberi> FlannelKing: i found that a bit strange too :)
[01:37] <SEJeff> sexcopter8000m: yw
[01:37] <conn> I'm having a problem with constant 100% cpu load. It's inconsistent with my System Monitor's processes list, the system monitor has 30% cpu and no other processes show significant cpu.. can someone help? I'm on ubuntu breezy
[01:37] <Blissex> SEJeff: ah amazing, I rewrote the 'startkde' script for much the same reasons.
[01:37] <sunil> It is executable but when i double-click nothing happens
[01:37] <Blissex> conn: unlikely, but it could be hard disk without DMA./
[01:37] <marska> Ugh!
[01:38] <sizzam> can you set up an LVM without having to format the drives?
[01:38] <Blissex> marska: the most complete low memory desktop environment is XFCE4. it is pretty lightweight.
[01:38] <CookedGryphon> hi, i'm having problems mounting a my userspace on a remote drive on my uni's netwrok
[01:38] <dabaR> conn: open a terminal, and type in top press enter. Then tell me what processes you see on top, and what stats you see for them. You could paste the output to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl so I can see it, as well.
[01:38] <SEJeff> Blissex: You are correct
[01:38] <Blissex> sizzam: not really.
[01:38] <sizzam> darn
[01:38] <CookedGryphon> 11744: Connection to hudson failed
[01:38] <CookedGryphon> SMB connection failed
[01:38] <dabaR> sunil: are you in a terminal?
[01:38] <ryanpg> another noobish question here... I keep reading "no updates except bug fixes" now is that really really true? I mean when gaim 2.0 comes out next month it wont go into ubuntu?  Now that OO.o 2.0 is out ubuntu won't include an updated package? or did I miss something in my reading?
[01:38] <sunil> am in terminal, yes
[01:39] <Blissex> marska: as I said, KDE with a suitable light configuration seems to work well for me on a 256MB machine.
[01:39] <conn> dabaR, "whiptail" is using all the cpu (70-85%), do u know what it is?
[01:39] <dabaR> ryanpg: you did not miss. a released version of ubuntu gets only security updates(bug fixes) and new versions go into the development version, and backports.
[01:39] <kbrooks> ryanpg: you dont understand ubuntu
[01:39] <Blissex> marska: and those 3-4 kernel parameters in my note, especially 'page-cluster' to 0, are _very_ important.
[01:39] <conn> it didn't list in the gnome system monitor
[01:39] <ubuntu> hey everyone
[01:39] <dabaR> conn: never heard of it, do you know what it is?
[01:39] <ryanpg> dabaR, thanks
[01:40] <somerville32> If I was to approach the district today on deploying linux in the school system, what points do you recommend that I bring up to help convince them that linux will help them solve real problems that face students and teachers today?
[01:40] <dabaR> sunil: ls -l realplayer...bin and paste that to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:40] <FlannelKing> somerville32, first you'd have to determine what problems they face
[01:40] <SEJeff> somerville32: You might take a lesson from people that have done it. David trask in maryland is one who has done it
[01:41] <conn> dabaR, not a clue
[01:41] <SEJeff> somerville32: Sorry, he is in maine
[01:41] <SEJeff> somerville32: http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8952848817.html You can find him on whitepages.com if you want
[01:41] <dabaR> conn: /msg ubotu info whiptail
[01:41] <conn> I checked the man pages, it's probably related to "Easy Ubuntu"
[01:41] <FlannelKing> conn, whiptail displays 'user friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts'
[01:42] <foxiness> i can not start firefox "i think it locked" wich file can i delete to break this lock please?
[01:42] <haselden> check inside of your firefox profile
[01:42] <dabaR> foxiness: why do you think it locked?
[01:42] <FlannelKing> conn uses newt instead of ncurses, allows for 'much friendlier' interactions.  At least, thats what apt says
[01:42] <foxiness> dabaR, because i konw this bug :)
[01:42] <haselden> foxiness: there's a "lock" file in your profile usually
[01:42] <conn> dabaR, thanks for the help, that app crashed on me and I thought the process died, but whiptail was still running (crashed?)
[01:43] <dabaR> conn: killall whiptail
[01:43] <conn> dabaR, I used sudo pkill, should I use killall in future for killing processes?
[01:43] <dabaR> conn: whatever works.
[01:43] <foxiness> haselden, thank you a lot
[01:43] <ubuntu> killall or kill -9
[01:43] <conn> ok, thanks
[01:44] <ubuntu> np
[01:45] <ryanpg> dabaR, I'm not sure I can live with just security fixes :P how often does backports and development get updated?
[01:46] <nalioth> ryanpg: when dapper spools up, there will be backports aplenty
[01:46] <somerville32> Our district uses applications like exchange and desire 2 learn.
[01:46] <ryanpg> nalioth, hi again :)
[01:46] <nalioth> ryanpg: oh, btw, theres nothing keeping you from rolling your own
[01:46] <somerville32> How easy would it be for them to convert to a linux-based solution?
[01:46] <cevizoglu> exchange is an application?
[01:47] <somerville32> exchange, the web-based e-mail thingie :P
[01:47] <Trashcan> exchange aka ms's mail solution
[01:47] <Trashcan> ?
[01:47] <ryanpg> nalioth, yeah I'm studying alien for this purpose (as I've been told checkinstall is "unsafe")
[01:47] <kbrooks> ryanpg: its not
[01:47] <kbrooks> alien is unsafe
[01:47] <ubuntu> is it?
[01:47] <kbrooks> !checkinstall
[01:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[01:47] <nalioth> ryanpg: alien is even more unsafe
[01:47] <Chadza> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3395 <-- Anyone know what I need to prevent that?
[01:47] <ryanpg> nalioth, really? can you elaborate?
[01:47] <nalioth> ryanpg: if you're gonna do it, use dpkg-buildpackage or its relatives
[01:47] <Trashcan> anyone experienced their panel being reordered (menus thrown to the middle, notification icons randomly moved around) on a reboot?
[01:48] <TiMiDo> Chadza; you need gtk
[01:48] <Trashcan> happened 3-4 times already
[01:48] <ryanpg> nalioth, ok I'll google and man that... its funny how I'm gathering such contradictory advice :P
[01:48] <Chadza> TiMiDo: What do I need to install?  Searching for gtk brings up about a million options in apt.
[01:48] <kbrooks> ryanpg: alien automatically generates a package
[01:48] <TiMiDo> sudo apt-get install libguilegtk-1.2-0 Chadza
[01:48] <nalioth> ryanpg: alien is for use with pkgs 'alien' to ubuntu. if debian binaries (ubuntus closest relative) are dangerous to use, what do you think using a redcrap pkg is gonna do?
[01:48] <corincole> does anyone here use WINE?
[01:48] <kbrooks> nalioth: "redhat"
[01:48] <ryanpg> nalioth, oh no I wouldn't do that
[01:49] <ryanpg> nalioth, I'd install to a /temp directory, tar up that install then use alien to convert .tgz to .deb
[01:49] <cevizoglu> somerville32, I can access microsoft's web-based email just fine from firefox on linux.. you may want to tackle that problem with linux as a separate issue
[01:49] <nalioth> ryanpg: checkinstall makes debs that do not conform to debian standards (so they arent any good for passing around0
[01:49] <nalioth> ryanpg: see my above post to you
[01:49] <kbrooks> ubuntu == enemy of debian :P
[01:49] <ubuntu> yeah
[01:49] <ubuntu> ;P
[01:49] <Blake_Seven> Hi I am a newbie with a hand-me-down Dell 2500 server with a raid 3/Di controller. I have unsucesful in installin mephis. Will I have more luck with ubutu ?
[01:50] <corincole> anyone here use wine?
[01:50] <ryanpg> nalioth, huh? I agree about not using redhat or other packages... but using alien to simply package apps built from source is bad?
[01:50] <Chadza> TiMiDo: Okay, that didn't work.
[01:50] <foxiness> am dailup user and if i download something and remove it than want it ,its not on cache ?
[01:50] <Chadza> TiMiDo: It's still giving the same message.
[01:50] <nalioth> ryanpg: if you're gonna do that, use dpkg-buildpackage or the other dpkg building tools
[01:51] <dabaR> Blake_Seven: we can not know that.
[01:51] <cevizoglu> kbrooks = political
[01:51] <nalioth> ryanpg: the 'tgz' you are thinking of is slackware packages, not source code
[01:51] <ryanpg> nalioth, ok then I'm off to research dpkg-buildpackage
[01:51] <dabaR> corincole: have you tried #winehq?
[01:51] <Blake_Seven> 'k just looking for some insite...
[01:51] <nalioth> ryanpg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch.
[01:51] <ryanpg> nalioth, no the .tgz I'm thinking of is the one I'd create from my own source tree and temp install directory
[01:51] <corvix> foxiness: how big is your cache setup in synaptic or whtever your using?
[01:52] <shim4> hello
[01:52] <dabaR> hi.
[01:52] <geno_> Hello everyone.
[01:52] <nalioth> ryanpg: yer goin around the world with that idea to get next door
[01:52] <ryanpg> nalioth, reading that link now
[01:52] <foxiness> corvix, how can i know that ?
[01:52] <nalioth> ryanpg: also the "new maintainers guide" at debian.org
[01:52] <geno_> I need help again, my sound doesn't play in my sound-out of my laptop
[01:52] <Mrl33t> what do I do with a .run file?
[01:52] <corvix> foxiness: mom ... start synaptic
[01:52] <geno_> It plays in the normap laptop speakers
[01:52] <cevizoglu> Mrl33t, execute it
[01:53] <geno_> Even though it's plugged
[01:53] <Mrl33t> do i have to make it executable first?
[01:53] <dabaR> yes
[01:53] <cevizoglu> Mrl33t, if it isn't already
[01:53] <nalioth> Mrl33t: you know what to do with it
[01:53] <Mrl33t> i dont know how
[01:53] <shim4> good bye everyone
[01:53] <cevizoglu> Mrl33t, chmod +x
[01:53] <sobersabre> has anybody heard about TI PCI7x20 SD/XD reader driver  ?
[01:53] <Mrl33t> k
[01:53] <foxiness> corvix, dad i start the program but i can not find it :)
[01:54] <geno_> My sound plays in double, at the same time in my laptop and normal speakers :/
[01:54] <corincole> CAN ANYONE HERE HELP ME WITH WINE???
[01:54] <corincole> :)
[01:54] <nalioth> corincole: please dont use caps
[01:54] <geno_> What do you need, MAYBE I can help?
[01:54] <corvix> foxiness: in preferences or wht its called (using german) look for 4th tab ...
[01:54] <sobersabre> corincole: do you have too much wine ?
[01:54] <corvix> foxiness: files or something
[01:54] <geno_> sobersabre: :)
[01:54] <corincole> well, ive installed wine, but im not sure how to get it to work
[01:54] <cevizoglu> lol
[01:54] <nalioth> corincole: if nobody answers you, the answer isnt here atm. screaming about it wont bring the answer in here
[01:54] <corvix> foxiness: selelct keep all packages
[01:54] <corincole> geno_? can u help? :)
[01:55] <foxiness> corvix, am selelct the first one on two box and the cache now empty !
[01:55] <SEJeff> corincole: run winecfg and then go to drives. Let it make a fake drive. Then you cd to the directory that has you exe file and run wine filename.exe
[01:55] <zeromusmog> Does anyone know how to get something besides a blank X desktop on VNC?
[01:55] <Mrl33t> how do I change write permissions?
[01:55] <corvix> foxiness: DONT empty cache!
[01:56] <Mrl33t> im trying to isntall Doom 3
[01:56] <Mrl33t> and it says i dont have write permission
[01:56] <corvix> foxiness: but select first bos ... what does it read in english?
[01:56] <geno_> SEJeff has got it. :)
[01:56] <Mrl33t> should I open up the installer iwth sudo?
[01:56] <foxiness> corvix, i want the cache and i will not press this button :)
[01:56] <zeromusmog> Mrl33t: you will have to run as root for most installers
[01:56] <vitry> es.irc-hispano.org
[01:56] <j0sh> Does anyone know of an app to play mpegs?
[01:56] <Mrl33t> so just "sudo doom3linux.run"
[01:56] <Mrl33t> no quotes of course :)
[01:56] <zeromusmog> haven't installed DoomIII so I don't know specifically, but I don't see why you wouldn't need to run as root
[01:56] <corvix> foxiness: what is the text for the first checkbox?
[01:57] <zeromusmog> that should work, hopefully :)
[01:57] <jmcnaught> you shouldn
[01:57] <euther> using apparently-correct grub commands, getting various errors on boot after install
[01:57] <jmcnaught> sorry... you shouldn't need to run doom3 as root
[01:57] <foxiness> corvix, temporary files
[01:57] <Mrl33t> should it be sudo ./doom3install.run
[01:57] <cevizoglu> Mrl33t, it's more like sudo ./doom3linux.run
[01:57] <Mrl33t> ok
[01:57] <Mrl33t> why is that anyway?
[01:57] <euther> "/bin/sh:  can't access tty; job control turned off"
[01:57] <foxiness> corvix, leave all
[01:57] <Mrl33t> whats the ./ for?
[01:58] <corvix> foxiness: and the text for the first option?
[01:58] <zeromusmog> Has anyone set up a VNC server and have any idea how to (in Ubuntu) get it to come up with something besides a blank X desktop? =\
[01:58] <cevizoglu> Mrl33t, because the directory you're looking at is not in your search paths
[01:58] <euther> ls -l / says all but init are 0-size
[01:58] <dabaR> Mrl33t: cause of where you are installing is not in your home directory, which is where you have permissions.
[01:58] <Mrl33t> ok
[01:58] <foxiness> corvix, leave all download packages on cache
[01:58] <j0sh> Anyone know of an app to play mpegs?
[01:58] <Mrl33t> Doom3 is asking me:  Do you want to install startup menu entries?
[01:58] <Mrl33t> what does it mean by that?
[01:58] <dabaR> Mrl33t: its a windows thing.
[01:58] <Mrl33t> does that mean Doom 3 in my games list?
[01:59] <corvix> zeromusmog: no need to detupo that ... just use the ubuntu system to set that up ... dont knoe the english name for the option .. something like distant desktop
[01:59] <Mrl33t> i know that... but this is a linux installer ;)
[01:59] <corvix> foxiness: select that ...
[01:59] <dabaR> ok, well, how would we know about some doom game?
[01:59] <dabaR> maybe google has a walk through,
[01:59] <zeromusmog> corvix: huh? are you suggesting I use something other than vnc or...? I'm confused
[02:00] <foxiness> corvix, ok am select but the cache still empty after i download something !
[02:00] <corvix> zeromusmog: theres a vnc server included in ubuntu ... it uses vino work for vnc clients
[02:00] <stimpie> how do I disable ssh access for a user?
[02:01] <warreng> i installed ruby + rails in ubuntu, but it says there's no ruby gems... how do i install that?
[02:01] <corvix> zeromusmog: when set up the distant desktop option in system tab and someone is logged in you can acces the desktop via vnc
[02:01] <zeromusmog> corvix: Oh yo umean Remote Desktop?
[02:01] <euther> I can mount the partition from another os, and all files are visible, just not found at boot time
[02:01] <corvix> zeromusmog: ah yea right!
[02:02] <zeromusmog> corvix: ok that's cool but I'd like to be able to have a separate user/session :)
[02:02] <bettong_BOFH> Seveas,  hey man whats up?
[02:02] <corvix> zeromusmog: the only disadvantage is that it only works as long as someone is logged in ...
[02:02] <Mrl33t> ok... trying to play doom.  what does this mean:
[02:03] <Mrl33t> Unknown command 'vid_restart'
[02:03] <Mrl33t> idRenderSystem::Shutdown()
[02:03] <Mrl33t> Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
[02:03] <zeromusmog> yeah I want something so that I can log in, or let my friend log in on his own username
[02:03] <Berhert> Does anyone know how to get a wireless netadapter from Broadcom in a Hp laptop to work with Ubuntu? I really want to use Ubuntu...but if it doesnt support my wireless card...It would be very difficult for me to use it....
[02:03] <corvix> zeromusmog: thought aboput using XDMCP in GDM?
[02:03] <zeromusmog> what is that? I chose VNC because I've used it before and it's just simple and works good and I can get at it from Windows computers (which is important)
[02:03] <dooglus> stimpie: "man sshd_config" and look for DenyUsers
[02:04] <jmcnaught> Berhert: you could try ndiswrapper... it lets you use the windows driver in linux
[02:04] <florg> hi. how can i prevent artsd being started and blocking the sound device when using konqueror or other kde apps? i'm using gnome with esd
[02:04] <jonny> ok i still need help with downloading apps from the internet
[02:04] <corvix> zeromusmog: ah ok .. win .. so xdmcp is not optimal ...
[02:04] <Berhert> Jmcnaught: Is that difficult to mix/configure?
[02:04] <dooglus> florg: I did it by uninstalling artsd.
[02:04] <bimberi> jonny: what isn't working for you?
[02:04] <zeromusmog> yeah I have a pc repair business and it would be nice to be able to get at a vnc login if necessary, as  tool :)
[02:04] <dooglus> florg: that had the added benefit of taking a bunch of KDE crap with it
[02:04] <jmcnaught> Berhert: it's pretty easy... i think there's instructions on the ubuntu wiki
[02:04] <corvix> zeromusmog: ive been using vnc for a while too ... but i dont know how to set it up to get a new session ... if possible at all
[02:05] <stimpie> dooglus, ok so no fancy gui, thanx
[02:05] <florg> dooglus, ah ok.
[02:05] <florg> i'll try
[02:05] <selinium> Anybody here got wine working on Breezy?
[02:05] <jonny> i cant locate the files (installers) iv downloaded in synaptic
[02:05] <dooglus> florg: you know it makes sense
[02:05] <Berhert> Jmcnaught: Thanks..Ill check it out...
[02:05] <corvix> zeromusmog: i use vnc to maintain the pc of my parents, spread around europe ;-)
[02:05] <florg> ;)
[02:05] <bimberi> jonny: what did you install?
[02:05] <dooglus> florg: you could try "chmod 0 artsd"...  that'd stop it running...
[02:06] <tiredbones> I'm currently on Hoary and I just downloaded Breezy. What tool do I use on my Hoary system to burn the cd?
[02:06] <jonny> umm.. macromedia flash...some games... and also f.f.
[02:06] <snugglemonkey> tiredbones: k3b
[02:06] <corvix> tiredbones: rightclick -> burn to cd ...
[02:06] <Knorrie> th|afk: dont do that here please
[02:06] <bimberi> tiredbones: just right-click on the iso file in the file manager and select Write to CD
[02:06] <tiredbones> I give that a try.
[02:06] <bimberi> corvix: so succinct :)
[02:06] <anto9us> Berhert: I use ndiswrapper with a BCM4309
[02:07] <Mrl33t> are there Linux cd emulators?
[02:07] <corvix> bimberi: ???
[02:07] <jonny> anyone?
[02:07] <dooglus> is there any way of getting a list of packages which depend on a specified package?
[02:07] <bimberi> corvix: sorry, succinct meaning you got the same message across in much fewer words :)
[02:08] <anto9us> Mrl33t: you can mount an iso image as a filesystem, if that's what you mean
[02:08] <dabaR> jonny: have you read the wiki page for synaptic?
[02:08] <jonny> yes
[02:08] <corvix> bimberi: ah ok ... indeed ... german lang here ;-)
[02:08] <dabaR> jonny: what is not clear, please?
[02:08] <bimberi> corvix: k :)
[02:09] <corvix> bimberi: where abouts are you from?
[02:09] <bimberi> corvix: Australia
[02:09] <jonny> where can i find the installers
[02:09] <zeromusmog> ah, I logged in as another user from the console and started a vncserver and that worked, I think the problem is being logged in, hmm
[02:09] <dooglus> Mrl33t: mount -o loop -t iso9660 $1 /media/iso
[02:09] <corvix> bimberi: ah sweet .. ive been libing in syndey for 9 months
[02:09] <jmcnaught> jonny: what are you trying to install?
[02:09] <dooglus> Mrl33t: (where $1 is the path to the .iso)
[02:09] <jonny> macromedia flash...some games and firefox
[02:10] <liransd_> is there some open source browser for gnome which i can get the source code to?
[02:10] <bimberi> jonny: synaptic installs for you (except maybe flash)
[02:10] <corvix> liransd: firefox?
[02:10] <dooglus> liransd_: nautilus you mean?
[02:10] <jonny> i dont understand what you mean
[02:10] <dooglus> liransd_: what do you want to browse?
[02:10] <dabaR> jonny: firefox is installed already, right?
[02:10] <jmcnaught> jonny: ubuntu doesn't usually use installers... synaptic installs the program for you so it's ready to run.
[02:10] <Mrl33t> is there a keyboard shortcut for copy/paste?
[02:10] <liransd_> dooglus, sorry about that, internet websites, not local folders
[02:11] <jonny> yes but im am using ubuntu 4.10 and that is not the latest F.F.
[02:11] <bimberi> corvix: ah, but in DE now?
[02:11] <dooglus> liransd_: there are lots then.  firefox is probably the most popular open source web browser
[02:11] <anto9us> Mrl33t: ctrl-c and ctrl-v but in the terminal you need to use shift in conjunction with those combinations
[02:11] <corvix> jonny: no need (and no way?) to DL files for synaptic .. synaptic gets its files from the repositories defined under properties, package sources
[02:11] <dooglus> liransd_: galeon is the gnome web browser I guess
[02:11] <Mrl33t> oh ok
[02:11] <SEJeff> jonny: Why don't you install 5.10?
[02:11] <corvix> bimberi: yea, i went to syndey for a internship, now im back with my studies
[02:11] <jmcnaught> jonny: you could use the backports to get a newer version, or upgrade to breezy is probably best.
[02:11] <dabaR> jonny: would you like to upgrade to the newest ubuntu?
[02:11] <liransd_> dooglus, galeon sounds good. i can get it's actual sources right?
[02:12] <dooglus> liransd_: sure
[02:12] <jonny> yes, i would
[02:12] <corvix> bimberi: been backbacking abround the world for a year, stayed most of the time in sydney ;-)
[02:12] <dooglus> liransd_: if you add source repos to apt you can "sudo apt-get source galeon" to get the source
[02:12] <dabaR> jonny: /msg ubotu breezy
[02:12] <ryanpg> hmm... one thing I'm not clear on re: dpkg-buildpackage... does it or does it not always build packages to be installed with --prefix=/usr
[02:12] <liransd_> ahh nice
[02:12] <liransd_> thanks
[02:13] <bimberi> corvix: hehe, that happens.  I spent a third of my backpacking odyssey in London :)
[02:13] <liransd_> where would it put it afterwards, /usr/src/galone or something?
[02:13] <bettong_BOFH> can ubuntu use any wireless nic pci card ootb?
[02:13] <dooglus> liransd_: in the current directory.
[02:13] <corvix> bimberi: oh nice city too ... been there a few years ago ... quite vibrant
[02:13] <Mrl33t> make executable is chmod +x, correct?
[02:13] <Knorrie> ryanpg: that's defined in the debian/rules file in the directory of the package-source
[02:13] <dooglus> liransd_: I said "sudo".  I didn't mean to.  Use your own user, not sudo.
[02:13] <Berhert> anto9us: Is it difficult to get it to work?
[02:13] <nalioth> bettong_BOFH: it cannot
[02:13] <bimberi> corvix: indeed
[02:13] <dabaR> jonny: I suggest that you change by hand your /etc/apt/sources.list file to what is shown on the pastebin for breezy, as ubotu sent you.
[02:13] <corvix> bimberi: so where are you from?
[02:13] <bettong_BOFH> so no matter what i do theres no way to get wireless pci to work?
[02:13] <jmcnaught> bettong_BOFH, most it can, others need a little work sometimes
[02:13] <dooglus> Mrl33t: yes.  +x makes executable.
[02:14] <dabaR> so, open a terminal, jonny do you know how?
[02:14] <Mrl33t> k
[02:14] <bimberi> corvix: we're OT.  Can I PM?
[02:14] <Mrl33t> im going to start making notes :P
[02:14] <jmcnaught> bettong_BOFH, did you try ndiswrapper?
[02:14] <anto9us> Berhert: yes, easiest using wep and locking the AP to only allow your mac address
[02:14] <bettong_BOFH> well can someone help me get my belkin wireless card to work it has a broadcom chipset
[02:14] <corvix> bimberi: shure!
[02:14] <bettong_BOFH> and if i can't get this to work with ndiswrapper then i think i am going to cry and give up on the best os i have ever used >,<
[02:15] <Knorrie> bettong_BOFH: probably no-one in here now knows... :( just try later... i know there were many many laptop tests before breezy was released
[02:15] <dooglus> does anyone here use 'isag'?  and if so, does the 'n' graph work?
[02:15] <bettong_BOFH> yea but this is for a destop
[02:15] <Knorrie> bettong_BOFH: and *do* file a ubuntu  bugreport about it!
[02:15] <misfit_toy> bettong_BOFH, the ndiswrapper instructions are very explicit and easy to follow
[02:15] <bettong_BOFH> diden't anyone test this card
[02:15] <anto9us> Berhert:  sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <whatever> key restricted s:<keyphrase>
[02:15] <bettong_BOFH> yes but what if you follow those instructions to the letter
[02:15] <ScatterBrain> help.  I have a machine that will not do a an apt-get upgrade.
[02:15] <bettong_BOFH> and still nothing
[02:15] <Knorrie> bettong_BOFH: just saying: dudes, my hardware isn't supported etc
[02:15] <SEJeff> bettong_BOFH: broadcomm = no drivers for linux because the company that makes them won't release the specifications
[02:16] <SEJeff> bettong_BOFH: To make it work in linux you have to use ndiswrapper with the windows drivers. Thats a PITA
[02:16] <bettong_BOFH> except now the link light will come on and then thats it
[02:16] <misfit_toy> bettong_BOFH, see if you even have a compatible card: http://linuxcompatible.org
[02:16] <anto9us> Berhert: but first you need to tell ndiswrapper to load the windows driver with ndiswrapper -l <driver.inf>
[02:16] <bettong_BOFH> i don't have one with linux no
[02:16] <misfit_toy> bettong_BOFH, then you're half way there
[02:16] <ryanpg> Knorrie, in this line (config.status: configure) -> CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" ./configure --host=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) --build=$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) --prefix=/usr --mandir=\$${prefix}/share/man --infodir=\$${prefix}/share/info
[02:16] <bettong_BOFH> it is mentiond in a few places however
[02:16] <bimberi> corvix: I've /msg'd you :)
[02:17] <liransd_> oh ok
[02:17] <bettong_BOFH> but nothing firm with ndiswrapper
[02:17] <liransd_> thanks dooglus
[02:17] <Knorrie> ryanpg: what's with that line?
[02:17] <corvix> bimberi: i messaged back ... didnt get a thing?
[02:17] <bettong_BOFH> then i tryed linextant and it seems that they support all the broadcom chipsets
[02:17] <ryanpg> Knorrie, it's the only line I could find in debian/rules that contained the string --prefix=/usr :P
[02:17] <Mrl33t> when a directory has spaces, do i need to enclose it in quotes in the terminal?
[02:17] <corvix> bimberi: still there?
[02:17] <Knorrie> ryanpg: yeah that's where it is defined yes
[02:17] <bettong_BOFH> they suggested that i use the drivers that they reccomended but there in .exe format
[02:18] <Knorrie> ryanpg: dpkg-buildpackage listens to rules to know what to do
[02:18] <dooglus> Mrl33t: no, you don't have to.  you can write "\ " for each of the spaces if you like.  that's what 'tab completion' will use
[02:18] <bimberi> corvix: yeah
[02:18] <bettong_BOFH> and i can't figure out how to open a .exe file
[02:18] <dabaR> Mrl33t: when trying to do what? usually you can escape a ' ' with a '\'.
[02:18] <bettong_BOFH> in ubuntu
[02:18] <anto9us> bettong_BOFH: they probably need unzipping
[02:18] <corvix> bimberi: didnt get any replies in PM?
[02:18] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: uh, you don't
[02:18] <ryanpg> Knorrie, ok so dh_make basically default to --prefix=/usr but if I edit the debian/rules file it will use what's there?
[02:18] <bimberi> corvix: aha, it's because you're not identified
[02:18] <ScatterBrain> help.  I have a machine that will not do a an apt-get upgrade.
[02:18] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: if it's a self-extracting zip file, run unzip on it
[02:18] <bettong_BOFH> i don't want to get away from windows?
[02:18] <orangey> hey all!
[02:18] <corvix> bimberi: how do i do?
[02:18] <th|afk> Knorrie_: sorry hadnt configured the script
[02:18] <Knorrie> ryanpg: i think so yes
[02:18] <dabaR> ScatterBrain: why not, what does it do?
[02:18] <ScatterBrain> It simpley stops when trying to install openssh-client.
[02:19] <orangey> are the openoffice.org2 packages in ubuntu's reps yet?
[02:19] <bettong_BOFH> i tryed that and it a .exe file
[02:19] <bob2> ScatterBrain: questions like that need to be accompanied by the full apt error, /etc/apt/sources.list and a description of what you're trying to do
[02:19] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: so, read what I said
[02:19] <Mrl33t> no like:  sudo /media/0 GB Disk (sda1)/file/thisfile
[02:19] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: "if it's a self-extracting zip file, run unzip on it"
[02:19] <Mrl33t> does the path need to be in quotes
[02:19] <bimberi> corvix: /j #bimberi
[02:19] <Mrl33t> since it contains a space
[02:19] <bettong_BOFH> ok i'll try
[02:19] <corvix> orangey: had the same question before... then got stuck here ;-) ... no answer so far
[02:19] <ScatterBrain> bob2, I'm using the hoary repos nothing unofficial.
[02:19] <dooglus> Mrl33t: /media/0 is a command?
[02:19] <Mrl33t> no
[02:19] <Mrl33t> opp
[02:20] <Mrl33t> well... put cd in there ;)
[02:20] <bettong_BOFH> holy crap it worked
[02:20] <dooglus> Mrl33t: the first word after 'sudo' should be a command
[02:20] <Mrl33t> i know
[02:20] <bob2> ScatterBrain: /etc/apt/sources.list, the error -> #flood
[02:20] <Mrl33t> forgot that one ;)
[02:20] <bettong_BOFH> damn bob2 your a genius ^_^
[02:20] <Mrl33t> sudo cd /media/0 GB Disk (sda1)/file
[02:20] <ScatterBrain> bob2, hold on.
[02:20] <dooglus> Mrl33t: "sudo cd blah" will run cd in a root shell, then exit the root shell.  it won't have any net effect
[02:20] <Mrl33t> does the path need to be in quotes
[02:20] <Mrl33t> well... you get what i mean
[02:20] <Mrl33t> the question is
[02:20] <dooglus> Mrl33t: if you want spaces in a path you have to either quote the path or escape the spaces with ' '
[02:20] <dabaR> Mrl33t: use tab completion.
[02:20] <dooglus> with '\' I mean
[02:20] <orangey> corvix: thank you : )
[02:21] <rixth> Hey guys, I have a little niggling thing with the behaviour of file-roller in Ubuntu. Whenever you extract a zip, it makes a folder called *zip file name*_FILES then puts the content of the zip inside there. How can I make it NOT do that?
[02:21] <Mrl33t> ok
[02:21] <Mrl33t> how do i escaple the spaces?  0' 'GB' 'Disk' '(sda1) ?
[02:21] <Mrl33t> escape*
[02:21] <misfit_toy> rixth, uncheck the "recreate folders" option when you untar it
[02:22] <Knorrie> Mrl33t: just\ put\ a\ slash\ before\ spaces
[02:22] <dabaR> Mrl33t: why did you not press tab yet after 0?
[02:22] <bob2> Mrl33t: yes...
[02:22] <bettong_BOFH> holy crap i think it might work now let me try
[02:22] <ScatterBrain> bob2, it's over there.
[02:22] <Mrl33t> dabar:  didn't know that existed :P
[02:22] <Mrl33t> thanks
[02:22] <dabaR> Mrl33t: $20.
[02:23] <Mrl33t> lol
[02:23] <bob2> ScatterBrain: where "stops" = ?
[02:23] <Mrl33t> maybe later ;)
[02:23] <Knorrie> Mrl33t: you can also use tab for nickname completion
[02:23] <ScatterBrain> bob2, look in #flood.
[02:23] <windex> Mrl33t, like this.
[02:23] <misfit_toy> there should be a paypal button built into xchat, I keep saying this....:)
[02:23] <bob2> ScatterBrain: where you didn't elaborate on it either
[02:24] <Knorrie> misfit_toy: that would mean people could only pay me, im using irssi :P
[02:24] <Mrl33t> Knorrie, wow im learning lots of stuff :)
[02:24] <Knorrie> Mrl33t: wheee o/~
[02:24] <misfit_toy> or an option "/msg #forum_paypal user $20
[02:24] <Mrl33t> Knorrie, lol ok thanks though
[02:24] <bettong_BOFH> bob2, i just want to say thank you very much you are amazing after getting the file unzipped my wireless worked with out a hitch i diden't even have to reboot thank you man you ROCK ^_^
[02:24] <Knorrie> Mrl33t: np ;)
[02:24] <misfit_toy> Knorrie, yeah
[02:24] <Zealot87> does anyone know how to get a mic working
[02:24] <bob2> np
[02:25] <misfit_toy> Zealot87, type "alsamixer" in a term and see if your mic is enabled and the sound is up.
[02:25] <ScatterBrain> bob2, btw, I'm chrooted into the box via Knoppix at the moment.
[02:25] <bob2> ScatterBrain: I still have no idea what you're talking about
[02:25] <bob2> ScatterBrain: "blank line" is not a useful description
[02:25] <bob2> does it go back to the shell?
[02:26] <bob2> does apt hang?
[02:26] <dooglus> Mrl33t: if you uncomment the 'bash completion' stuff in your .bashrc file then TAB gets even more clever.
[02:26] <Mrl33t> ok
[02:26] <misfit_toy> lol
[02:26] <ScatterBrain> bob2, no. errors no further information.  apt simply hangs there.
[02:26] <Mrl33t> im trying to run my ATI drivers (a .run file).  what command do i use?
[02:26] <Mrl33t> i need to use sudo
[02:26] <ScatterBrain> bob2, sorry for not being very descriptive.
[02:26] <misfit_toy> Mrl33t, sh
[02:26] <Mrl33t> just trying to open it in the file explorere doens't owrk
[02:26] <Mrl33t> misfit_toy, thanks
[02:27] <anto9us> Mrl33t: try pressing ctrl-r and typing part of a long command line you typed previously, that's pretty groovy too
[02:27] <pppoe_dude> hi... how can i make apt-get ignore a broken package?
[02:27] <pppoe_dude> i can't find the conf file
[02:27] <ScatterBrain> bob2, I can cancel out of apt, with a <ctrl>-C, but nothing happens.
[02:27] <bob2> pppoe_dude: fix it
[02:27] <bob2> ScatterBrain: nothing happens = ?
[02:27] <bob2> it drops back to a shell?
[02:27] <pppoe_dude> bob2: fixing it will remove the package, but its working fine
[02:27] <ScatterBrain> bob2 no apt-hangs.
[02:27] <jmcnaught> has anyone tried 5.10 server?  is it basically like typing server at the boot prompt with a normal CD, but the cd also has packages for apache, mysql etc?
[02:28] <bob2> pppoe_dude: apt disagrees
[02:28] <Rounin> Hello! I'm really having problems getting the developers to address a bug I and some others are experiencing... Is there a mailing list where I could try?
[02:28] <misfit_toy> ScatterBrain, have you done an apt-get clean?
[02:28] <pppoe_dude> its actually a misnomer
[02:28] <michael__> hello
[02:28] <rixth> How do I decrypt AAC files? (If possilbe)
[02:28] <bob2> Rounin: er, you want to try to force people to fix it?
[02:28] <ScatterBrain> misfit_toy, yes.
[02:28] <neighborlee> setting up primrary  installation repository < computer I am installing breezy on seems froze at 25% install and wondering if anyone has seen this happen ??  ( been this way for a minute or two now )
[02:28] <bob2> rixth: mplayer
[02:28] <pppoe_dude> the broken package is skype, and it needs a package that is already installed
[02:28] <pppoe_dude> but it doesnt know that
[02:29] <bob2> neighborlee: did you verify the CD
[02:29] <bob2> pppoe_dude: er, that's not the case
[02:29] <michael__> may I ask a question about grub on ubuntu here?
[02:29] <ScatterBrain> misfit_toy, it does it's job, I restart the upgrade and then apt hangs again.
[02:29] <Mrl33t> i just insalled my ATI drivers
[02:29] <bob2> pppoe_dude: libtq3-mtc101 != libqt3-mt
[02:29] <rixth> bob2, really? Wow, thanks.
[02:29] <Mrl33t> do i need to restart?
[02:29] <ScatterBrain> misfit_toy, after it fetched the package again.
[02:29] <pppoe_dude> bob2: ok, but it works fine
[02:29] <Knorrie> pppoe_dude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto?highlight=%28skype%29
[02:29] <bob2> rixth: it may or may not need windows dlls
[02:29] <Rounin> bob2: That didn't help very much...
[02:29] <tiredbones> while trying to burn cd on my Hoary system, My system froze-up about 3/4 into the burning. Is this a known problem?
[02:29] <rixth> bob2, so It ake it I can also use mencoder to transcode them to mp3/vorbis?
[02:29] <bob2> pppoe_dude: that's awesome, but they're different packages
[02:29] <bob2> pppoe_dude: use the static tarball from skype's website
[02:29] <bob2> rixth: yes
[02:29] <neighborlee> bob2, yes actually its the same cd I used to install breezy on my PIV machine..over there its a PII450 ..
[02:29] <Mrl33t> i just insalled my ATI drivers
[02:29] <Mrl33t> i just insalled my ATI drivers
[02:29] <Mrl33t> do i need to restart?
[02:30] <bob2> Rounin: did you answer my question or give us the bug number?
[02:30] <misfit_toy> ScatterBrain, this is one package?
[02:30] <Mrl33t> sorry for the double :)
[02:30] <misfit_toy> ScatterBrain, which one?
[02:30] <Knorrie> pppoe_dude: (ssst) just get it here, i installed it today: http://debian.knorrie.org/ubuntu/5.10/skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb
[02:30] <bob2> Mrl33t: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:30] <pppoe_dude> bob2: actually, i downloaded the deb file, ignored the dependencies,
[02:30] <diabolus> Hello everyone...
[02:30] <dooglus> pppoe_dude: look at this: apt_preferences(5) - it's how you ignore a broken package
[02:30] <bob2> pppoe_dude: yes, I know you did
[02:30] <michael__> I am relatively experienced with Ubuntu, I am coming from Hoary, I loaded breezy
[02:30] <pppoe_dude> and it works fine with what i have
[02:30] <diabolus> i have slight anoyance....
[02:30] <bob2> pppoe_dude: the .deb is unsuitable for ubuntu
[02:30] <michael__> Everything installed fine
[02:30] <Rounin> bob2: On the Ubuntu bugzilla or on launchpad?
[02:30] <bob2> Rounin: dude
[02:30] <pppoe_dude> ok thanks
[02:30] <bob2> if you're going to whinge about people ignoring youre bug, at least tell us the bloody bug number
[02:30] <misfit_toy> ScatterBrain, have you done an apt-get -f install?
[02:30] <bob2> if you haven't even reported it, of course you'll be ignored
[02:30] <kingirght> hello all i need help
[02:31] <michael__> but I can NOT add a second IDE drive, no matter what I do. Does anyone here know about Grub?
[02:31] <Rounin> bob2: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/scim/+bug/2565
[02:31] <misfit_toy> ScatterBrain, and also try "apt-get install --reinstall packagename"
[02:31] <dabaR> kingirght: ask
[02:31] <corvix> michael: what do you mean ADD another IDE drive?
[02:31] <diabolus> i ordered some ubunto 5.04 cds from the shipit... and they arived today... so there i go to test one of them.. etc etc... everything goes just fine.. until the option to set the "time" (you know... GMT and all.. i don't know how it shows in EN... i'm portugues)
[02:31] <Xanthus7> is Ubuntu 64 bit out yet
[02:31] <kingirght> i cant install yahoo messenger
[02:31] <diabolus> at there.. it just HANGS... blue background... no output whatsoever...
[02:32] <misfit_toy> kingirght, boot to windows
[02:32] <diabolus> any advice??
[02:32] <kingirght> not this is my linux box
[02:32] <Knorrie> diabolus: 5.04 is from april :( 5.10 is released now
[02:32] <kingirght> no*
[02:32] <michael__> Yes.. I am running breezy fine. I am trying to add a second IDE drive
[02:32] <diabolus> Knorrie sorry... they arrivied TODAY. i've order 5.10 from some time now...
[02:32] <ScatterBrain> misfit_toy, I have tried the apt-get -f install and it hangs as well.
[02:32] <dePOLL> Guys.. I hate to bring it up since I guess it's a pretty standard issue but many of my videos just stopped playing ?. Wasn't even after the move from hoary to breezy, I just dist-upgraded tonight and now xine won't play my wmvs anymore (no demuxer whatsoever). I get the sound from the xvids but no actual picture. I installed the merillat w32codes and all the gstreamer stuff..
[02:32] <misfit_toy> kingirght, yahoo doesn't install on linux last time I checked, you want GAIM
[02:32] <cafuego_> Xanthus7: Ubuntu 64bit has been out for probably about  ayear.
[02:32] <michael__> Please note, I was able to add a second drive that was SATA with no problem
[02:32] <misfit_toy> kingirght, sudo apt-get install gaim
[02:33] <bob2> Xanthus7: there is no ubuntu 64 bit
[02:33] <ScatterBrain> I've not tried the apt-get isntall --reinstall yet.
[02:33] <corvix> diabolus: what kind of connection? is downloading and burning the image an option?
[02:33] <anto9us> michael__: extra drives aren't configured using grub. Try System | Administration | Disks
[02:33] <bob2> Xanthus7: the amd64 port of ubuntu released at the same time as the rest of 5.10, yes.
[02:33] <ScatterBrain> But I will
[02:33] <tiredbones> when burning a cd my system froze, at the bottom of the screen is said "Fixating CD". What does this mean?
[02:33] <michael__> I am a software engineer and not a noob
[02:33] <Knorrie> diabolus: you want to set Portugues time?
[02:33] <florg> dooglus, should i force dpkg to  remove libarts? i don't want to remove kate and kcontrol...
[02:33] <diabolus> corvix i belive it WILL be. i have a 4mbit... problem is... i have LIMITED download bandwith.
[02:33] <kingirght> yahoo has one for
[02:33] <kingirght> Debian
[02:33] <misfit_toy> tiredbones, using serpentine?
[02:33] <michael__> I am willing to completely wipe/blank out the second IDE drive
[02:33] <kingirght> that should work
[02:34] <diabolus> Knorrie no.. the installl just hangs when i get to that step
[02:34] <bob2> Rounin: what do you hope to have people do?
[02:34] <Rounin> Sorry about the whining though, bob2, but I'm really not sure what to do about it...
[02:34] <j0sh> I am trying to apt-get mplayer but it keeps telling me it can't be found??
[02:34] <dooglus> florg: I don't know what the dependancies are.  did you try just chmod'ing artsd to 000?
[02:34] <misfit_toy> tiredbones, mine does the same thing, it burns fine, it's a bug, I prefer gnomebaker over serpentine anyway...
[02:34] <noodle_> hwo do i change the gnome desktop font color?
[02:34] <diabolus> j0sh mplayer isn't in apt.
[02:34] <florg> not yet
[02:34] <dooglus> florg: you might lose sound in kate though :)
[02:34] <Knorrie> diabolus: too bad :| so you cant even choose anything
[02:34] <slick> i would like to upgrade from 4.10 to the latest
[02:34] <cafuego_> !info mplayer-k7
[02:34] <ubotu> mplayer-k7: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[02:34] <corvix> michael: what do you mean by adding a disk ... just adding anoither HD settingup some more partitions and adding them in fstab?
[02:34] <kingirght> should the Debian installer work?
[02:34] <michael__> I have been able to "see" the second IDE drive if i use Live boot CD
[02:34] <Rounin> Hm, bob2... I suppose one could try updating the packages to the newest version and see if that works better.
[02:34] <j0sh> diabolus: do you know where I can get it
[02:34] <cafuego_> Except it is.
[02:34] <florg> that's ok
[02:34] <corvix> michael: or doesnt it work at all?
[02:35] <Rounin> Though finding that out would entail recomiling everything from source, so I haven't tried it... It's a lot of files
[02:35] <diabolus> Knorrie i can't even chose nothing... :(
[02:35] <michael__> i KNOW the drive is good, i had been using it on Hoary with no problem. Even more, I have another known good drive, it also can NOT be installed
[02:35] <ssdd534> anyone know how to make gnome terminal transparent
[02:35] <kingirght> i have 5.04
[02:35] <tiredbones> misfit_toy, I'm using the standard with Hoary. I right click on the file under the manager.
[02:35] <Knorrie> diabolus: if you don't mind downloading 500-600mb, get a breezy installer? or is your connection not sufficient?
[02:35] <michael__> If a second IDE drive is attached to either the slave of the primary IDE OR the slave of the secondary IDE channel, Grub will NOT boot
[02:35] <corvix> michael: so it doesnt show up in the system? so you cant partition it?
[02:36] <diabolus> Knorrie i'll try...
[02:36] <slick> I would like to upgrade from 4.10-----> latest
[02:36] <diabolus> have no choice.. :)
[02:36] <ssdd534> anyone know how to make gnome terminal transparent?
[02:36] <kingirght> any one know how to install yahoo messenger for Debian on ubuntu?
[02:36] <michael__> I love ubuntu by the way... i have been on it for about 8 months
[02:36] <corvix> michael: i have two harddrives at the first ide ... and it boots . weird ..
[02:36] <dooglus> ssdd534: edit->current-profile->effects->transparent-background
[02:36] <slick> anyone help
[02:36] <michael__> i have posted on the Ubuntu forums, no joy
[02:36] <ssdd534> thanks
[02:36] <keene_> So what's up with the 404 errors on the amd64 repositories?
[02:36] <j0sh> anyone know where i can get mplayer?
[02:36] <michael__> i have searched the web far and wide
[02:36] <kingirght> any one know how to install yahoo messenger for Debian on ubuntu?
[02:37] <michael__> i have read every web page i can about Grub
[02:37] <Mrl33t> use gaim
[02:37] <Rich43> I dont know how to install this ubuntu package, see: http://pastebin.com/400444
[02:37] <Rich43> Anyone know?
[02:37] <kingirght> can u use my cam with it?
[02:37] <corvix> michael: but the simple stuff is right ... master slave settings? ... i did those mistakes too
[02:37] <anto9us> michael__: Have you checked the boot order in your bios?
[02:37] <mustard5> kingirght, no
[02:37] <kingirght> c that is y i want yahoo
[02:37] <michael__> yes, i have verified the jumper settings. Again, this exact drive on this exact computer worked on Hoary
[02:38] <slick> can anyone tell me how to upgrade from 4.10 to latest
[02:38] <kingirght> there is one for Debian but i can get it to work ubuntu is a Debian based?
[02:38] <corvix> michael: really weird ... and they show up in the bios?
[02:38] <Rich43> Where can i get the darksnow ubuntu package?
[02:38] <michael__> they show up correctly in the bios
[02:38] <mwright1> Hey does anyone know what the article on slashdot about VMWare releasing their "player" as free software means?
[02:39] <cafuego_> Wasn't the yahoo messenger deb just completely broken? Can't you use GAIM to connect to Yahoo anyway?
[02:39] <slick> i need help please
[02:39] <Knorrie> slick: hi
[02:39] <ssdd534> thanks again
[02:39] <michael__> and on the advice of some grub info, i tried setting it to "manual" instead of auto
[02:39] <bettong_BOFH> ok now is it save to remove my eth0 device now that i dont need it anymore?
[02:39] <mustard5> cafuego, he wants webcam access...and thats not in GAIM
[02:39] <keene_> gaim-vv
[02:39] <cafuego_> mustard5: Installing a broken client won't help either.
[02:39] <Knorrie> slick: that's gonna take some time
[02:39] <kingirght> i can but i cant us mic or cam with GAIM
[02:39] <corvix> michael: ... sory ... no idea ... is it an option to try to install with the drive in place?
[02:39] <slick> o great
[02:39] <dabaR> slick: well, what did you do so far?
[02:39] <C_J_Pro> Are there any Package CDs for ubuntu?
[02:39] <michael__> I have played with the "boot" order in bios as well
[02:39] <mustard5> cafuego, no..it wont :D
[02:40] <C_J_Pro> I'm installing ubuntu on a computer that doesn't have an internet connection
[02:40] <michael__> I have even done that. Install goes fine, partitioning goes fine
[02:40] <slick> um... i... well... i am a noob and dont understand te wicki
[02:40] <cafuego_> kingirght: ymessenger won't work, just sue gaim and don't look at ugly people on csreen. much better for sanity
[02:40] <kingirght> gaim-vv????
[02:40] <C_J_Pro> and need packages like build-essentials
[02:40] <dabaR> slick: do you know how to open a terminal?
[02:40] <michael__> at reboot, it does not boot. If i pull all but the main drive, all boots (and works fine)
[02:40] <kingirght> lol
[02:40] <corvix> michael: really weird .. no idea .. youre not along ;-)
[02:40] <Rich43> kingirght: synaptic is your friend
[02:41] <slick> i think... apps system tools terminal
[02:41] <pppoe_dude> THANKS everyone, skype installed fine now after going to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto?highlight=%28skype%29
[02:41] <slick> ?
[02:41] <anto9us> michael__: have you tried swapping the ide connections? I remember that solved a similar problem for me before, on a different distro though.
[02:41] <Knorrie> slick: yes
[02:41] <kingirght> so u have a work aroung?
[02:41] <michael__> if i boot on LiveCD, i erased the MBR (set to zeros) and partitioned and layed down a file system.
[02:41] <kingirght> around*
[02:41] <slick> now what?
[02:41] <michael__> can read and write (on live cd) to the drive with no problem.
[02:41] <dabaR> slick: good, do that. Then, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is the command I want you to run. input your password when asked.
[02:41] <michael__> it is ONLY grub that fails
[02:41] <corvix> michael: what kind of drive? size etc?
[02:42] <kingirght> no how do i get java on ubuntu
[02:42] <slick> brb
[02:42] <michael__> what do you mean ANT? Swapping the IDE connections? WOn't that definitely make the boot fail from HDA becoming HDC?
[02:42] <marcin_ant> kingirght: it depends - which version of java
[02:42] <corvix> use java-package to make a deb from a jre install you downloaded from sun
[02:42] <corvix> kingirght: use java-package to make a deb from a jre install you downloaded from sun
[02:42] <michael__> I have a 160 Gb primary, with boot active. It works fine
[02:43] <michael__> I have a 75 Gb Raptor SATA, it works fine
[02:43] <kingirght> how do i do that?
[02:43] <michael__> I have a 120 Gb spare drive and an 80 Gb spare drive.
[02:43] <corvix> kingirght: know how to use synaptic?
[02:43] <Knorrie> dabaR: make sure he has ubuntu-base & ubuntu-desktop installed ;) im ZzZz..now :) (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade)
[02:43] <michael__> If i have more than 1 IDE drive, Breezy is wheezy!
[02:43] <kingirght> not really im still new with ubuntu
[02:43] <str8edge> i have 160 gb sata and 250 gb sata and ubuntu with grub boots fine on the secondary drive, ubuntu has the last 50 gigs of the drive too.
[02:44] <michael__> i am not dual booting in any way. This is pure breezy
[02:44] <michael__> i have nothing on the 2 spare drives that I care about. I booted live and moved everything i had to have over to the sata and that is working fine
[02:45] <Mrl33t> i installed my video card drivers and i get this error trying to start doom 3:
[02:45] <Mrl33t> Unknown command 'vid_restart'
[02:45] <Mrl33t> idRenderSystem::Shutdown()
[02:45] <Mrl33t> Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
[02:45] <corvix> kingirght: type "/join corvix"
[02:45] <michael__> it is like having two drives is confusing Grub about what is the main drive
[02:45] <kingirght> k
[02:45] <str8edge> grub main drive = hd0
[02:45] <michael__> i erased MBR of both spare drives in case they had something in them
[02:45] <slick> it says permission denied
[02:46] <dabaR> slick: did you type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:47] <K^Holtz> Hi, i need some help, someone is installing ubuntu, but they are saying that the kernal will not install.
[02:47] <QMario> How do I compare a string with an input in Java?
[02:47] <QMario> Would I use the == operator or something else?
[02:47] <K^Holtz> They said it boots fine, but the kernal wont install
[02:47] <Mrl33t> can I mount MDS/MDF files?
[02:47] <Mrl33t> or only ISOs?
[02:47] <slick> ok, iv gotten to the point where it asks for my passwors but when i try to type something, nothing shows up
[02:48] <cafuego_> QMario: string.equals("String2")
[02:48] <samuel_> drahs2001
[02:48] <QMario> Thank you cafuego_!!! :)
[02:48] <QMario> Hello cafuego_!!! :)
[02:48] <QMario> Sorry for being off topic.
[02:48] <kingirght> y is ubuntu so slow for me?
[02:48] <cafuego_> QMario: That's just about the only Java I remember :-)
[02:48] <QMario> I assumed that #Java wasn't going to let me in.
[02:49] <kingirght> its fast at first then its slow
[02:49] <Mrl33t> how do you unmount?
[02:49] <slick> when i type in my password... nothing shows up
[02:49] <Mrl33t> crap
[02:49] <dooglus> slick, that's right.
[02:49] <Mrl33t> i just mounted an ISO in my /media folder with no subfolder
[02:50] <Mrl33t> which messed up all of my other mounts
[02:50] <slick> so nothing shows up... just type it?
[02:50] <dooglus> Mrl33t: so "umount" it
[02:50] <dooglus> slick: yes
[02:50] <Mrl33t> what should I type?  unmount <iso name>?
[02:50] <war-totem> if i get a C compiler error is that a gcc error or something all together different
[02:50] <dabaR> type it and press enter.
[02:50] <riddlebox> wohoo got my wireless card working finally
[02:50] <C_J_Pro> How do I get build-essential when on a Ubuntu system not connected to the internet?
[02:50] <dooglus> Mrl33t: umount /media
[02:50] <nalioth> war-totem: depends on what the error is
[02:50] <nalioth> C_J_Pro: apt-zip
[02:50] <slick> sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts
[02:50] <slick> ?
[02:50] <dabaR> C_J_Pro: get it on this computer.
[02:51] <war-totem> a simple configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:51] <dabaR> slick: are you typing in your own password?
[02:51] <Mrl33t> unmount:  command not found
[02:51] <K^Holtz> Is there any reason why when trying to install Ubuntu, it would boot fine, but not install the kernel ?
[02:51] <dabaR> umount
[02:51] <slick> yes
[02:51] <whitefungi> anyone know of a repository with unreal tournament dedicated server?
[02:51] <dooglus> slick: you're supposed to type your password, then hit return.
[02:51] <dabaR> slick: are you the only user on the system?
[02:51] <Mrl33t> bash: unmount: command not found
[02:51] <slick> yes
[02:51] <dabaR> umount
[02:51] <dooglus> Mrl33t: umount
[02:51] <{Mike}> can the Live CD or DVD play dvds?
[02:51] <{Mike}> movie dvds that is
[02:51] <war-totem> im trying to install comical
[02:51] <Mrl33t> why do i get command not found then?
[02:51] <dabaR> slick can you open synaptic in the GUI? System>Admin>Synaptic.
[02:51] <dooglus> umount, not uNmount
[02:52] <slick> yes
[02:52] <war-totem> nalioth, a simple configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:52] <mustard5> Mrl33t, umount
[02:52] <Mrl33t> oh
[02:52] <Mrl33t> ok
[02:52] <nalioth> war-totem: may i suggest guatu instead (i think comical is bodgered)
[02:52] <war-totem> nalioth, ill give it a shot, but im not having much luck with anything other than wine/cdisplay
[02:52] <K^Holtz> guys, im sorry, im being a pest.. but noone is even acknowledging my problem .. does anyone have anything to say on this issue?
[02:52] <slick> im in synaptic
[02:52] <amr> hello, could sommeone give a hand with a netwrok problem ?
[02:52] <mustard5> Mrl33t, don't worry I was doing the same thing recently :D  unmount sounds much more intuitive :D
[02:52] <slick> no what
[02:52] <dooglus> K^Holtz: what problem?
[02:53] <slick> *now
[02:53] <Mrl33t> mustard5, yep :)
[02:53] <Mrl33t> whats the command to create a folder?
[02:53] <samue1> does anyone here use xddc downloading?
[02:53] <mustard5> mkdir
[02:53] <dooglus> Mrl33t: mkdir
[02:53] <{Mike}> anyone know?
[02:53] <Mrl33t> k thanks
[02:53] <K^Holtz> dooglas: installing ubuntu, it is booting, but the kernel will not install.
[02:53] <dabaR> slick: well, if your password worked for synaptic, then it will work for sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:54] <dooglus> K^Holtz: you can boot ubuntu without a kernel?
[02:54] <nalioth> war-totem: guatu works fine for me
[02:54] <Aven> hello
[02:54] <{Mike}> anyone know if the Live CD or DVD play movie dvds, out of the box?
[02:54] <nalioth> war-totem: i had so much trouble with comical, i gave up on it
[02:54] <dabaR> slick: once in synaptic, click on Settings>Repositories.
[02:54] <Aven> hi
[02:54] <kbrooks> whats comical, nalioth
[02:54] <Aven> I'm trying to install a mysql server
[02:55] <Aven> wouldn't the apt-get be "apt-get install mysql-server"?
[02:55] <nalioth> kbrooks: /msg ubotu info comical
[02:55] <K^Holtz> dooglas: no... when the cd is put in, the prompt comes up to install the kernel, and after pressing Enter, it just freezes
[02:55] <Aven> cause, I get this:
[02:55] <Aven> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[02:55] <Aven>  'Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908)'
[02:55] <C_J_Pro> nalioth: I don't have an ubuntu PC atm
[02:55] <dooglus> K^Holtz: I think the problem is that your problem doesn't make a lot of sense.  You can't run ubuntu if the kernel isn't installed.
[02:55] <Aven> i don't have a disk :\
[02:55] <Spudchat> hi guys
[02:55] <slick> ok
[02:55] <dabaR> slick: you would have to change from warty to breezy all the repositories.
[02:55] <C_J_Pro> Have to set one up at school without internet connection
[02:55] <K^Holtz> dooglus: see above
[02:55] <nalioth> C_J_Pro: then i'm lost
[02:55] <slick> ok hold on
[02:55] <kbrooks> nalioth: doesnt exist
[02:55] <anto9us> Aven: remove the CD from your repositories
[02:55] <dabaR> slick: but I would prefer you do this through command line. but whatever you can figure out.
[02:55] <Spudchat> how do i add a new rsa key for ssh ?
[02:55] <dooglus> K^Holtz: you're talking about the install cd?  or the live cd?
[02:55] <K^Holtz> install
[02:55] <cafuego_> Aven: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, put a # in front of the cdrom line; run 'sudo apt-get update' and then install mysql-server.
[02:56] <dooglus> K^Holtz: what's the error message?
[02:56] <Aven> anto9us: how? o.O
[02:56] <Spudchat> it wont let me connect to a box i just reformated because the key changed
[02:56] <dabaR> rixth: which is?
[02:56] <K^Holtz> dooglus: no message.. just freezes
[02:56] <war-totem> nalioth, i get the same error trying to install GUatu
[02:56] <amr> i have an ubuntu box, i did "ifup eth0" and it brings eth0 up with a proper ip (from the dhcp server), it gets a valid resolv.conf (with right name servers) but when i try to ping anything (even pinging the name server using its ip) things  does not work at all , any clue  anyone??
[02:56] <slick> ok... i did it
[02:56] <war-totem> nalioth, do i need to apt-get a C compiler?
[02:56] <dabaR> slick changed warty to breezy?
[02:56] <mcadory> K^Holtz:  have you booted this cd successfully in the past?
[02:57] <slick> yes sir er mam
[02:57] <anto9us> Aven: as cafuego said
[02:57] <dabaR> now use the reload, mark all upgrades, and apply buttons to update your system.
[02:57] <nalioth> war-totem: "build-essential" and joining #kubuntu-offtopic may help
[02:57] <rixth> dabaR, 4.0 is out of date.
[02:57] <dooglus> mcadory: he can boot it now...
[02:57] <dabaR> rixth: there is 4.1 n breezu
[02:57] <K^Holtz> dooglus and mcadory: This is the first attempt at installation
[02:57] <slick> ok now what
[02:58] <dooglus> K^Holtz: could be a corrupted CD I guess.
[02:58] <foxiness> i want to extract folder form big tar file "4GB" this folder is "var" is there a simple and fast way to do that other then open it "take to long" ?
[02:58] <TRifa> I have a question here
[02:58] <TRifa> How can i do a make
[02:58] <K^Holtz> but then wouldnt the prompt not come up dooglus ?
[02:58] <slick> iv changed them all
[02:58] <Aven> ok, I keep getting:
[02:58] <Aven> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:58] <Aven> when I try to do something with terminal
[02:59] <nalioth> Aven: close all your apt-get instances
[02:59] <Aven> there is a command that stops it.. what is it again?
[02:59] <C_J_Pro> How can I get a copy of build-essential to put on a CD if I don't have a ubuntu PC.  Note, I don't have Debian here either because I overwrote my Ubuntu PC for Likos
[02:59] <dooglus> K^Holtz: it's possible that you could boot a corrupted CD, yes.
[02:59] <Mrl33t> im installing a game using ISOs.  its asking for CD.  How can I make it think I put disk2 in the same cd drive that CD1 was in?
[02:59] <tiredbones> OT, I'm trying to boot my new iso image on my new Dell inspiron 6000, my first laptop that I've own, how do I get at the BIOS?
[02:59] <slick> iv changed all from warty to breezy
[02:59] <dooglus> C_J_Pro: you can get packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:59] <TRifa> How can i install mode applications
[02:59] <Welly> Hey all.. has anyone ever installed the GD Library?
[02:59] <nalioth> C_J_Pro: go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for build-essential. download and burn all parts related
[02:59] <Welly> i'm trying to install it but getting a load of errors
[02:59] <dooglus> C_J_Pro: be sure to trace down all the dependancies
[03:00] <dabaR> slick: I told you above, reload, mark all upgrades, apply.
[03:00] <slick> o sry
[03:00] <dabaR> TRifa: more applications?
[03:00] <K^Holtz> dooglus: the error says "boot faild press any key to restart" Nero was used to burn the ISO...
[03:00] <TRifa> yes dabar
[03:00] <tiredbones> OT, on a laptop do I have to change the bios to boot fron the cd first?
[03:00] <dabaR> TRifa: do you have anything in mind?
[03:00] <dooglus> K^Holtz: did you check the md5sum of the .iso file?
[03:00] <TRifa> games dabaR
[03:01] <Mrl33t> im installing a game using ISOs.  its asking for CD.  How can I make it think I put disk2 in the same cd drive that CD1 was in?
[03:01] <K^Holtz> what do i have to check dooglus?
[03:01] <sproingie> hm, i'm trying to use libipt_recent in breezy, but it seems to have disappeared
[03:01] <slick> for mark all upgrades, do i want default upgrade or smart upgrade
[03:01] <dabaR> smart, slick
[03:02] <mrsir114> i would do smart
[03:02] <slick> ok
[03:02] <dabaR> I mean, I dont know.
[03:02] <K^Holtz> dooglus: what is the md5sum supposed to be and how do i go about checking it.. sorry if this is trivial
[03:02] <dabaR> sounds like the smarter choice:)
[03:02] <mrsir114> lol
[03:02] <Mrl33t> will mounted ISOs go away on restart?
[03:02] <dabaR> TRifa: any particular games, or just some?
[03:02] <dooglus> K^Holtz: you need to find a copy of md5sum.exe for windows,run it on the .iso file, and compare the output with the expected output
[03:02] <TRifa> those who are included on the cd
[03:03] <slick> so... i click mark all upgrades after reloading and i can not click apply!
[03:03] <sidewinder8> anyone else have problems with IPv6 in 5.10 ?
[03:03] <dabaR> TRifa: are you on ubuntu now?
[03:03] <TRifa> yes
[03:03] <TRifa> i am
[03:03] <sidewinder8> did you get ti fixed yet?
[03:03] <dabaR> TRifa: do you know how to add a repository?
[03:03] <nalioth> K^Holtz: get one here http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[03:03] <sidewinder8> all I can use is X-Chat and Firefox
[03:03] <anto9us> Mrl33t: yes, if you want them permanent you can add them to fstab
[03:03] <TRifa> dabaR, no
[03:04] <K^Holtz> nalioth: what is the MD5sum supposed to be?
[03:04] <dooglus> K^Holtz: see here http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/MD5SUMS
[03:04] <dabaR> TRifa: add universe and multiverse
[03:04] <foxiness> i want to extract folder form big tar file "4GB" this folder is "var"  fast way to do that 
[03:04] <nalioth> K^Holtz: it is on the download page where you got the iso
[03:04] <TRifa> how
[03:04] <dabaR> TRifa: do you use xchat?
[03:05] <TRifa> yes lol
[03:05] <dooglus> foxiness: "tar xf tarfile"
[03:05] <TRifa> didn't see ubotu
[03:05] <dabaR> TRifa: good, read those.
[03:05] <TRifa> final question
[03:05] <K^Holtz> alright.. so if it happens that the md5sum does not match up... just reburn the ISO?
[03:05] <TRifa> where is the place of irssi
[03:05] <TRifa> i want to load a script
[03:05] <dooglus> foxiness: if you don't want to extract the whole archive, "tar xf tarfile var"
[03:05] <mrsir114> i just upgraded from hoary to breezy and now my SB16 PCI doesnt work but i see it in infocenter on KDE.  anyone know how to get sound working..again?
[03:06] <dooglus> foxiness: are you sure the folder is "var", not "./var" or "/var"?
[03:06] <dabaR> TRifa: it is a program. I tyhink you need to rephrase your question. Other than that, once you add universe and multiverse, use synaptic to find games.
[03:06] <slick> am i screwed or r there solutions
[03:06] <foxiness> dooglus, yah that what i want "extract some thing from the whole arachive"
[03:06] <K^Holtz> or do i have to redownload and reburn?
[03:07] <dabaR> slick: did you press reload?
[03:07] <slick> yes
[03:07] <corvix> slick: wait im reading
[03:07] <dooglus> foxiness: you run "tar xf archive pathname" where archive is the tar file and pathname specifies the parts you want to extract
[03:07] <dabaR> slick: you should sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:07] <foxiness> dooglus, this arcchive from the whole systme file "tar cvpfz tarfile /" shoulde it be var or /var
[03:08] <TRifa> finally
[03:08] <dabaR> and same password that opens synaptic shouldopen that.
[03:08] <TRifa> how can i use the make command
[03:08] <slick> o no gtg ill go back on 2morrow
[03:08] <sidewinder8> I've looked in the forums and can't find a solution
[03:08] <dabaR> TRifa: for what?
[03:08] <corvix> ah hey kingright
[03:08] <TRifa> compiling apps
[03:08] <slick> SORRY!
[03:08] <kingright> sorry had to reboot
[03:08] <corvix> kingright /join #corvix again
[03:08] <dabaR> slick: see ya.
[03:08] <slick> THX SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP
[03:08] <dabaR> welcome
[03:09] <kingright> kk
[03:09] <sidewinder8> anyone solved the IPv6 problem?
[03:09] <TRifa> finally, is bitchx working with ubuntu
[03:10] <dabaR> TRifa: sure does work
[03:10] <TRifa> debian?
[03:10] <foxiness> dooglus, thank you a lot :)
[03:11] <dabaR> TRifa: ubuntu has its own repos, and you should not install debian debs mostly.
[03:11] <dabaR> !+info bitchx
[03:11] <ubotu> bitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1466 kB, Installed size: 6484 kB
[03:11] <mrsir114> anyone kno how to fix soundcard problem
[03:11] <crimsun> mrsir114: what sort?
[03:11] <GregAsche_> ugh, I just upgraded to breezy and now GDM won't start
[03:12] <GregAsche_> I get a libcairo.so.2 shared library error
[03:12] <crimsun> GregAsche_: err? Did you mix repos at any point?
[03:12] <neighborlee> since when is .tga considered a security risk ? ;-)...nautilus wont open a .tga image I just created from export of a blender uvmap...odd ?
[03:12] <GregAsche_> no, I didn't
[03:12] <GregAsche_> i used the sources.list from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:12] <mrsir114> it shows up in info center on kubutu but after i upgraded from hoary to breezy sound stopped working
[03:13] <crimsun> GregAsche_: COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l libcairo2 gdm|grep ^ii|awk '{ print $3 }'
[03:13] <corvix> neighborlee: ... is the file iotself a tga? nautilus does warn if the file extension and the file signature dont match
[03:13] <niels_> all: where is the "command line" ? i am trying to register the gstreamer plugins...
[03:13] <dooglus> foxiness: I just experimented with tar.  look here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3398
[03:13] <crimsun> mrsir114: cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:14] <GregAsche_> crimsun: I had to boot to windows, I'll have to reboot to try that
[03:14] <neighborlee> corincole, its a targa file yes..
[03:14] <GregAsche_> give me a couple minutes
[03:14] <MOSMarauder> Someone knows a recording programm for analog Video?
[03:14] <MOSMarauder> v4l based device
[03:14] <neighborlee> corincole, odd..;-)
[03:14] <mustafu> this sounds like a bit much I know, but are there any guides for installing ubuntu? I've went through the install process 3 times with no success :(
[03:14] <theblue> Hi all.
[03:15] <theblue> Can any of you tell me how to configure, in text mode, a box to connect to only a certain wireless network, detemined by SSID?
[03:15] <neighborlee> mustafu, where are you stuck ?
[03:15] <egon_spengler> dooglus, Try Applications, Accessories, Terminal
[03:15] <dooglus> egon_spengler: what for?
[03:15] <egon_spengler> dooglus, You asked where to find the command line. Terminal is a shell
[03:15] <dooglus> egon_spengler: nuh-uh
[03:16] <egon_spengler> dooglus, My mistake, that would be niels. Old eyes are failing
[03:16] <theblue> ?
[03:16] <theblue> Hello?
[03:16] <Mrl33t> can i mount images besides ISOs?  Like MDF/MDS
[03:16] <niels_> all: where is the "command line" ? i am trying to register the gstreamer plugins...
[03:16] <crimsun> niels_: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[03:16] <dooglus> niels_: Try Applications, Accessories, Terminal
[03:16] <mustafu> well, I was custom partitioning with XFS....some of the settings available seemed unknown to me so I just more or less guessed on them...it installs the base packages and LILO, asking me where to install that (have no clue)..on one occasion, the winXP bootloader was still on there, and on another attempt, it did boot but dropped me to a command line..
[03:16] <dooglus> :)
[03:16] <theblue> !wlan
[03:16] <ubotu> I don't know, theblue
[03:16] <egon_spengler> niels Applications menu, Accessories, Terminal
[03:16] <mrsir114> this is what i get when i do cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:16] <mrsir114> 0 [AudioPCI       ] : ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
[03:16] <mrsir114>                      Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xdc00, irq 5
[03:17] <crimsun> mrsir114: paste amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:17] <niels_> crimsun dooglus: ok, will do
[03:17] <Epix> Help iwth rosegarden! I can record midi but I cant play it to my sound card! What the helll is going on?! I have Jack running and its ggoing from Master L to playback 2 and Master R to playback 1. I hit play on the transport and my speakers are on and everything, but no dice! Help!
[03:17] <Mrl33t> can i mount images besides ISOs?  Like MDF/MDS
[03:17] <dabaR> !+repeat
[03:17] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repeat is Don't repeat your question every few minutes- if someone knows they will answer
[03:17] <crimsun> Epix: see the midi pages in alsa.opensrc.org
[03:18] <Epix> crimsun: anything in particular?
[03:18] <crimsun> Epix: just read through it
[03:18] <niels_> crimsun: seems to have done the trick. thanks.
[03:18] <vaticano> hi
[03:18] <mustafu> so, the 'bootable' flag on the ubuntu partition should be set to on, correct?
[03:19] <bluefox83> mustafu, yes
[03:19] <Mrl33t> can you force an umount?  im getting the error:  device is busy
[03:19] <bluefox83> Mrl33t, man umount
[03:19] <dooglus> Mrl33t: that usually means that one of your shells is "cd"ed into the /media/iso directory
[03:19] <foxiness> dooglus, when i come here some time i feel there one to be my hero ,and you my hero of this day :) thank you "i need this idea from long time"
[03:19] <dooglus> foxiness: glad to help
[03:19] <something_else> If i was to resize the partition where ubuntu was installed would this affect my installation?
[03:19] <dabaR> Mrl33t: close all apps using the device, and get out of its folder
[03:19] <Mrl33t> i have an ISO loaded, but it wants Disk2
[03:20] <Mrl33t> so the app needs to stay open
[03:20] <dooglus> foxiness: I just watched an episode of "The Office" about what it takes to be a hero :)
[03:20] <foxiness> dooglus, haha
[03:21] <dooglus> Mrl33t: you can mount the 2nd iso to /media/iso2
[03:21] <dooglus> Mrl33t: (at the same time)
[03:21] <dooglus> Mrl33t: you'll need to "sudo mkdir /media/iso2" if it doesn't exist
[03:21] <Mrl33t> but then it doesn't reconise it
[03:21] <Mrl33t> i did that
[03:21] <C_J_Pro> What are the system requirements for ubuntu?
[03:21] <Mrl33t> i hit ok after i mounted it, and it just asked for disk2 again
[03:22] <tiredbones> On my Hoary system how can I find out what package is being used to burn my CD. My laptop won't boot with CD I just burnt.
[03:22] <LoneWolf071> i heard about the ubuntu server edition, what's different about it?
[03:22] <starscalling> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:22] <starscalling>  <<--- what can i do to correct that?
[03:22] <nalioth> LoneWolf071: nothing
[03:22] <nalioth> LoneWolf071: every ubuntu install disk has 'server' on it
[03:23] <niels_> all: i am following the ubuntu guide to set up music/video play... mentions something about w32codecs and libdivx4linux... i assume i need to get these?
[03:23] <tiredbones> The error I get is "CD rom not detechted".
[03:23] <Mrl33t> i mounted CD2 and it still says "Please insert the CD into the CD-ROM drive and proess the OK Button"
[03:23] <_jason> any ideas why nautilus will refuse to ssh into a server while I can ssh into the same exact server perfectly fine over the command line?
[03:23] <Mrl33t> which I did
[03:24] <bimberi> nalioth: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[03:24] <dabaR> niels_: only if you want something, you need it.
[03:24] <nalioth> bimberi: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[03:25] <niels_> i want to be able to watch dvds on my comp
[03:25] <nalioth> crap
[03:25] <Mrl33t> did you see my question?
[03:25] <nalioth> bimberi: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/10/204207
[03:25] <niels_> dabar:i want to be able to watch dvds on my comp
[03:25] <dooglus> Mrl33t: ok.  got it.  use "umount -l" to umount the first disk, then mount the 2nd in the same place
[03:26] <dabaR> niels_: did you ask the bot about dvd?
[03:26] <sproingie> aha, finally a simple solution for ssh brute force attacks.  hashlimit.
[03:26] <starscalling> nalioth : is there something i can do about that invalid signature?
[03:26] <dooglus> Mrl33t: "-l" is a "lazy" umount, which does the umount'ing later, once the cd isn't being used any more
[03:26] <niels_> dabaR: what or who is the bot?
[03:26] <cafuego_> !bot
[03:26] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to cafuego_? I think not. Bot, knot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[03:26] <nalioth> starscalling: disregard it or /msg ubotu gpgerr
[03:27] <neighborlee> http://www.heartseed.org/Screenshot.png < would someone horribly mind looking at that and seeing if this is a known issue.??(.I presume some mime-type is messed up but im not terribly good at using gconf )
[03:27] <starscalling> thanx nalioth
[03:27] <niels_> ubotu: so what about dvd play?
[03:27] <ubotu> niels_: I haven't a clue
[03:28] <dabaR> niels_: you have a pm with ubotu.
[03:28] <Mrl33t> dooglus, it doens't work... it still says insert cd #2
[03:28] <dooglus> Mrl33t: you managed to mount CD2 into the same place where CD1 used to be?
[03:28] <Mrl33t> though it is mounted in the same spot CD1 was
[03:28] <Mrl33t> dooglus, yes
[03:28] <Xanthus7> so is Ubuntu 64 bit ready for the real world is it it like windows 64 bit not really ready yet
[03:29] <[snape] > #informatica
[03:29] <dooglus> Mrl33t: I guess it still has the directory opened.
[03:29] <niels_> dabaR: what is a pm?
[03:29] <cafuego_> Xanthus7: it runs fine.
[03:29] <nalioth> niels_: a private message
[03:29] <Xanthus7> Good to hear I tried that windows 64 bit and it is a piece of crap
[03:30] <cafuego_> Xanthus7: Just don't expect proprietary non-open 32bit software to work (Java, flash)
[03:30] <Mrl33t> dooglus, still doens't work
[03:30] <Epix> crimsun: i still cant get it to work. none of that helped.
[03:30] <cafuego_> Xanthus7: Although you can use those via a 32bit chroot under 64bit anyway.
[03:30] <dooglus> Mrl33t: what about...  mount the 2 images to /media/iso1 and /media/iso2 respectively, then make a symlink from /media/iso to /media/iso1, cd to /media/iso, run the app, then, when it asks you to swap CDs, replace the symlink with a symlink of the same name but pointing to /media/iso2 ?
[03:30] <niels_> dabar: oh.... now i get it... thanks... i'm new to this stuff...
[03:30] <tiredbones> I'm going to try another package to burn my CD. It been suggested that I use gnomebaker. I have release 0.3-3. Is this okay?
[03:30] <dooglus> "ln -sf /media/iso1 /media/iso"
[03:31] <lw-ZzZz> FWIW, Sun does have a 64bit Linux JDK/JRE
[03:31] <cius> would anyone happen to know why rhythmbox won't open winamp playlists correctly?
[03:31] <dooglus> Mrl33t: you'll need to remove the /media/iso directory for this.
[03:31] <Mrl33t> dooglus, lol im not following you.  do i need to start over the install?
[03:31] <Xanthus7> Tiredbone you can get nero for ubuntu and it works fine
[03:31] <dooglus> Mrl33t: I'm afraid so.  Is that a problem?
[03:31] <sproingie> proprietary 32 bit software works fine on 64 bit
[03:31] <lw-ZzZz> I'm running 64bit and wish I'd have installed 32bit
[03:31] <sproingie> long as it doesn't depend on kernel modules
[03:31] <Villa> hi
[03:31] <Mrl33t> dooglus, nah.  just making sure we're startin on the same page :)
[03:32] <sproingie> so games are pretty much out
[03:32] <dooglus> Mrl33t: k
[03:32] <Villa> I have a cd that I can view on my windows machine, but not on my ubuntu machine
[03:32] <Villa> is there a reason why some CDs only read on the one operating system?
[03:32] <Mrl33t> dooglus, delete the ISO folders I made too in /media
[03:32] <Mrl33t> ?
[03:32] <dooglus> Mrl33t: is this Windows software by the way?
[03:32] <Mrl33t> dooglus, yea im using wine
[03:32] <sproingie> lw-ZzZz: i hear that.  i end up doing more of my work on the 32 bit side than in 64 bit
[03:32] <dooglus> Mrl33t: delete /media/iso, make /media/iso1 and /media/iso2
[03:33] <Xanthus7> 64 bit has just not cought on yet give it another year or so
[03:33] <Mrl33t> dooglus, rmdir = delete directory?
[03:33] <dooglus> Mrl33t: I'm not familiar with wine.  I guess you configure it to tell it which  directory is the CD drive?  And if so, can you switch that when it asks you to switch CDs?
[03:33] <khermans> Are there official CD labes for Breezy so I can label them and hand them out locally?
[03:33] <khermans> labels
[03:33] <dooglus> Mrl33t: yes.  rmdir
[03:33] <warreng> i have a fresh install of ubuntu, and i did a apt-get install rails, but it doesn't seem to have come with rubygems
[03:33] <khermans> Steve Ballmer will be here tomorrow
[03:33] <Epix> can anyone tell me why rosegarden wouldnt play to my SPEAKERS?
[03:34] <Mrl33t> dooglus, that was a good guess ;)
[03:34] <dooglus> Mrl33t: you're living up to your name ;)
[03:34] <Mrl33t> lol
[03:34] <mcadory> warreng: there is a gems package if i am not mistaken  lemme check
[03:34] <Xanthus7> the windows 64 bit verison is bastardized version of windows 2000 and XP
[03:34] <Mrl33t> this is my second day in linux ;)
[03:34] <Mrl33t> so you have to bear with me ;)
[03:35] <Mrl33t> ok
[03:35] <crimsun> Epix: lsmod|grep ^snd_seq
[03:35] <furic> How does one configure gnome so that the log out menu item under System brings up a prompt with shut down/reboot options instead of just logging out?
[03:35] <Mrl33t> dooglus, /media/iso1 and /media/iso2 ready
[03:35] <dooglus> Mrl33t: you can "rm -r dir" if you like - that will remove the contents and the directory - can cause much damage of course.  rmdir will only delete empty directories, so it's safer.
[03:35] <Jeffrae> I have one cd that I can only read on my windows or mac system, but not ubuntu
[03:35] <Jeffrae> any ideas?
[03:35] <dooglus> Mrl33t: so you mounted the two .iso files onto the two iso directories?
[03:35] <TiMiDo> Jeffrae what kind of cd is it?
[03:35] <Mrl33t> dooglus, give me a sec
[03:36] <Jeffrae> Just a Drivers cd
[03:36] <Dean_Kreger> hey guys
[03:36] <warreng> mcadory: any help you can give would be awesome :)
[03:36] <Khaaaaaan> How do I update Punkbuster in Linux?
[03:36] <TiMiDo> Khaaaaaan apt-get install package
[03:36] <TiMiDo> it will update it, or apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:36] <mcadory> warreng: i have been reading those articles as well.
[03:36] <Xanthus7> Jaffrae we talking about a cd drive or a cd disk
[03:36] <Khaaaaaan> really?
[03:36] <Khaaaaaan> via synaptic?
[03:36] <TiMiDo> yeah
[03:36] <Epix> crimsun: snd_seq_dummy, snd_seq_midi, snd_seq_device, snd_seq_oss, snd_seq_midi_event, snd_seq
[03:36] <Mrl33t> dooglus, ready
[03:37] <TiMiDo> Jeffrae do sudo apt-cdrom
[03:37] <GregAsche_> grrr... I upgraded to breezy and now whenever I start up, GDM crashes giving me libGLcore and libfb.a errors
[03:37] <GregAsche_> and it won't give me a console
[03:37] <GregAsche_> what should I do?
[03:37] <TiMiDo> GregAsche_ ctrl alt fq
[03:37] <TiMiDo> GregAsche_ ctrl alt f1
[03:37] <GregAsche_> to get a console?
[03:37] <Khaaaaaan> TiMiDo: It doesnt come up when I search
[03:37] <TiMiDo> yeah
[03:37] <GregAsche_> well that doesn't matter, I already booted to knoppix
[03:37] <ColonelKernel> hmm
[03:37] <GregAsche_> how should I fix gdm?
[03:38] <Mrl33t> dooglus, hear me?  im ready :)
[03:38] <crimsun> Epix: and what sound card are you using?
[03:38] <mcadory> warreng: still looking. running a 6000sux processor takes time
[03:38] <TiMiDo> depend on the error GregAsche_
[03:38] <dooglus> Mrl33t: make a symbolic link: ln -f /media/iso1 /media/iso
[03:38] <Mrl33t> ok
[03:38] <Epix> crimsun: esoniq 5800
[03:38] <cafuego_> Holy crap, I'm out of ram and swap!
[03:38] <TiMiDo> when was the last time you updated you're system GregAsche_
[03:38] <GregAsche_> gives me a libGLcore and libfb.a errors
[03:38] <dooglus> Mrl33t: then "ls -l /media/iso" so you can see what a sym-link looks like
[03:38] <GregAsche_> um, when hoary came out
[03:38] <Epix> crimsun: and a USB keybd
[03:38] <Khaaaaaan> TiMiDo: Is there a specfic place I should apt-get from?
[03:38] <endo> anyone in?
[03:38] <Mrl33t> dooglus, what went in /media/iso?  i only made iso1 and iso2
[03:38] <TiMiDo> Khaaaaaan try searching on www.debian.org
[03:38] <Mrl33t> dooglus, for cd1 and cd2
[03:39] <crimsun> Epix: have you read section 5 of http://rosegardenmusic.com/resources/faq/ ?
[03:39] <endo> i need help setting up my display for my laptop
[03:39] <endo> can someone lend a hand
[03:39] <dooglus> Mrl33t: just for iso1 now.
[03:39] <Khaaaaaan> dag
[03:39] <Khaaaaaan> aight
[03:39] <TiMiDo> endo sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:39] <johnsie2k> how do I install samba protocol for saving files?
[03:39] <GregAsche_> TiMiDo what should I do?
[03:39] <dooglus> Mrl33t: run "ln -s /media/iso1 /media/iso"
[03:39] <Jeffrae> ok
[03:39] <Jeffrae> did it
[03:39] <endo> timido i know
[03:39] <TiMiDo> GregAsche_ don't know
[03:39] <Mrl33t> dooglus, i didn't make /media/iso
[03:40] <GregAsche_> ugh
[03:40] <endo> but i dont know what do do exactly
[03:40] <dooglus> Mrl33t: no.  that's right.
[03:40] <Mrl33t> dooglus, just /media/iso1 and /media/iso2
[03:40] <dooglus> Mrl33t: this will "make" it.
[03:40] <GregAsche_> anyone know how to get GDM to work? I'm getting libGLcore and libfb.a errors...
[03:40] <Mrl33t> ok...
[03:40] <Mrl33t> dooglus, alright.. i was wondeirng where you were going there
[03:40] <dooglus> Mrl33t: yes.  iso1 and iso2 are the two CDs.  and iso is a "link" to iso1 to start with.  then, later, it will be a link to iso2
[03:40] <mcadory> warreng: i think all you have to do is install the rails package.  you don't *need* the gems package with this distro to follow the articles in LJ.
[03:40] <johnsie2k> with ubuntu upstairs i can save to a file on a samba folder but not on this one
[03:40] <Mrl33t> dooglus, error: ln: `/media/iso1': hard link not allowed for directory
[03:41] <dooglus> Mrl33t: you missed the "-s"
[03:41] <Mrl33t> dooglus, bah.. need sudo
[03:41] <Hikaru79> Seveas, are you there?
[03:41] <mcadory> warreng: it worked for me with rails and the dependancies.
[03:41] <johnsie2k> !samba
[03:41] <ubotu> from memory, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:41] <Kyral> Mrl33t, use ln -s
[03:41] <Mrl33t> ok
[03:41] <endo> i would be able to do it if someone could tell me why my root pwd isnt working
[03:42] <endo> is the a defualt root password for kubuntu
[03:42] <nalioth> endo: there is no root password
[03:42] <Mrl33t> dooglus, ok did that with -s
[03:42] <TiMiDo> endo nope do sudo -s
[03:42] <Hikaru79> endo, there is no root.
[03:42] <Hikaru79> There is only sudo
[03:42] <Mrl33t> dooglus, i have the iso folder now
[03:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell endo about root
[03:42] <GregAsche_> anyone know how to get GDM to work? I'm getting libGLcore and libfb.a errors...
[03:42] <Mrl33t> dooglus, with CD1 in there
[03:42] <TiMiDo> yuck
[03:42] <Hikaru79> GregAsche_, have you tried to install ubuntu-desktop?
[03:42] <TiMiDo> that's why i don't really used any GUI
[03:42] <crimsun> GregAsche_: paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:42] <Jeffrae> I can read all sorts of cds
[03:42] <endo> thanks
[03:42] <Jeffrae> just not this one
[03:42] <selinium> anyone here running wine on breezy, I have got it running but the fonts are poo!
[03:42] <endo> ill try
[03:42] <warreng> mcadory: so do you have the "gem" command?
[03:43] <Mrl33t> dooglus, oh i get it.  now i run setup.exe, when it wants Cd2, switch it to link to disk 2
[03:43] <dooglus> Mrl33t: that's right.  run it from /media/iso
[03:43] <Epix> crimsun: ok, this soundfont thing confuses me. do i need to load one? if so where? Im using a USB MIDI keyboard btw.
[03:43] <dooglus> Mrl33t: not from /media/iso1
[03:43] <Mrl33t> dooglus, ok thanks... let me see how this goes
[03:43] <dooglus> Mrl33t: I'm hoping that when you switch the link over, it will start looking at the 2nd CD.  but I can't be sure.
[03:43] <crimsun> Epix: you need to load one if your sound card has hardware midi
[03:43] <Mrl33t> dooglus, we'll see
[03:44] <dooglus> Mrl33t: you should be able to switch the link over using "ln -sf" but I can't get it to work!  you can "rm /media/iso" then make the new link.
[03:44] <mcadory> warreng: no.  i guess i came in on the back end of your question.  i assumed you were trying out the code from the last two linux journals about ruby on rails.
[03:45] <KinkoBlast> msg nameserv identify crbani
[03:45] <KinkoBlast> ...
[03:45] <KinkoBlast> crud.
[03:45] <Jeffrae> can I use mac OS X drivers on my ubuntu system?
[03:45] <GregAsche_> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3399
[03:45] <wickedpuppy> KinkoBlast, pls change ya pass asap
[03:45] <Epix> crimsun: for inputor out?
[03:46] <Mrl33t> dooglus, did you get "Read-only file system" when you tried -sf?
[03:46] <GregAsche_> crimsun: I didn't have ubuntu-desktop installed, working on getting that installed now
[03:46] <GregAsche_> would that fix it?
[03:46] <nalioth> Jeffrae: for what?
[03:46] <warreng> mcadory: nah... i have a rails site i'm trying to get working
[03:46] <Jeffrae> printer
[03:46] <warreng> i installed "rails", but i don't have active_record or rubygems or any of that
[03:46] <warreng> seems like that's a major part that's missing
[03:46] <niels_> ubotu: please check your pm
[03:46] <ubotu> niels_: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:46] <Jeffrae> nalioth,  Printer
[03:46] <crimsun> Epix: out
[03:46] <dooglus> Mrl33t: no, I got no error message, but nothing changed, either
[03:47] <dooglus> Mrl33t: the "read-only" message would be 'cos you're not root
[03:47] <johnsie2k> !kubuntu
[03:47] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:47] <crimsun> GregAsche_: hopefully
[03:47] <nalioth> Jeffrae: ymmv
[03:47] <Epix> crimsun: i want to output to speakers!
[03:47] <dooglus> Mrl33t: keep using "sudo", or "sudo -i" to get a root shell
[03:47] <Mrl33t> dooglus, i used sudo
[03:47] <Epix> crimsun: like, the ones pluged into the lineout of my card
[03:47] <Mrl33t> dooglus, what does -i do
[03:47] <KinkoBlast> whew.
[03:47] <Jeffrae> ok
[03:47] <GregAsche_> crimsun: okay, I'll reboot... anything on my Xorg file that would be causing problems?
[03:47] <crimsun> Epix: that's what I mentioned the FAQ for...
[03:47] <ryanpg> ugh... ok another "glitch" I seem to be unable to build several packages from source all of a sudden, I get errors like "'ECONNRESET' undeclared", "'ENOSYS' undeclared", "EIO undeclared" etc. this seems to be an ubuntu issue (or my setup) because it's happening with more than one package, any suggestions?
[03:47] <crimsun> GregAsche_: sec
[03:47] <niels_> ubotu: do what come in packets of 5?
[03:47] <ubotu> I don't know, niels_
[03:47] <Jeffrae> I know using a windows driver is a definate no
[03:47] <Jeffrae> hehe
[03:47] <FruityLoop> can anyone help me ? I search a mpg=>mp4 converter
[03:48] <KinkoBlast> jeffrae: Actually, you CAN use windows drivers.
[03:48] <manji> hey all, i was wondering about package conflicts...
[03:48] <Jeffrae> you can?
[03:48] <KinkoBlast> jeffrae:It's called ndiswrapper, I'm using it for my wireless card.
[03:48] <manji> i need to stop using python2.4 and use python2.3 by edfault, how would I go about that?
[03:48] <Mrl33t> dooglus, how do you drop the link from ISO1 then make a new one to ISO2?  -sf doesn't want to work for me
[03:48] <manji> s/edfault/default/
[03:48] <Jeffrae> hmmm
[03:48] <Jeffrae> interesting
[03:49] <dooglus> Mrl33t: if you run "sudo -i" on its own, you'll get a shell that is root all the time - so you won't have to "sudo" any more.  It's not advisable, 'cos you'll accidentally run 'wine' as root, and so on
[03:49] <niels_> all: does no one here play dvds on ubuntu?
[03:49] <dooglus> Mrl33t: try "-snf"
[03:49] <crimsun> GregAsche_: some fglrx errors, but see if they so away after ubuntu-desktop is installed
[03:49] <GregAsche_> okay
[03:49] <crimsun> GregAsche_: did you follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[03:49] <Epix> crimsun: the soundfont thing? what is a soundfont?
[03:49] <dooglus> Mrl33t: or "rm /media/iso" first to remove the old link
[03:49] <KinkoBlast> jeffrae: There is a step-by-step to seting it up on the wiki
[03:49] <endo> man this shit isnt working
[03:49] <FruityLoop> I search a mpg=>mp4 Converter for Linux .... can anyone help me?
[03:49] <endo> i cant patch it
[03:49] <GTroy> is there a typical problem burning cds with nautilus?
[03:49] <GregAsche_> crimsun: yea
[03:49] <crimsun> Epix: refer to the FAQs on rosegarden's and the ALSA wiki Web sites
[03:49] <Jeffrae> KinkoBlast, That is for wirelesscards and some oddball usb stuff
[03:49] <GTroy> that can be fixed?
[03:50] <GregAsche_> I don't really care about the errors as long as gdm works
[03:50] <Mrl33t> dooglus, the link switched to ISO2, but the installer doen'st accept it
[03:50] <KinkoBlast> jeffrae: Well, yes, but it should work with other drivers, in theory.
[03:50] <Mrl33t> dooglus, it still thinks cd2 isn't there
[03:50] <Jeffrae> thanks though dude
[03:50] <Khaaaaaan> damn I dont see anything about Punkbuster on here....
[03:50] <dooglus> Mrl33t: the installer still sees disk 1?
[03:50] <manji> does anyone know how to change from python2.4 to python2.3 ???
[03:50] <Epix> crimsun: i dont get this, i dont have the sfxload utility, i dont have any soundfont files and i dont know where to get em!
[03:50] <Khaaaaaan> How can I just enable it to self update??
[03:50] <Jeffrae> but will linux know what do do with the printer driver?
[03:50] <Mrl33t> dooglus, it doens't see disk 2 :\
[03:51] <dooglus> Mrl33t: bummer
[03:51] <seismicmike> yo
[03:51] <dooglus> Mrl33t: still.  we both learnt something today, eh?
[03:51] <crimsun> Epix: you should be able to tell from lsmod output (don't paste here!) whether you have hardware midi support. If you don't, you need a software synth.
[03:51] <Mrl33t> dooglus, lol yea.
[03:51] <Mrl33t> dooglus, thanks anyway
[03:51] <seismicmike> hmmmm
[03:51] <mcadory> warreng: http://rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=126
[03:51] <endo> how do i install an rpm package
[03:51] <endo> ?
[03:51] <seismicmike> 4mins and 20secs left on my apt-get
[03:52] <dooglus> Mrl33t: if I really wanted to get this thing installed, what I would do next would be to COPY the whole CD from /mount/iso1 into a new directory /monut/iso - then run the installer from the copy - then, when it wants me to switch, delete the copy and replace it with a copy of /media/iso2.
[03:52] <dooglus> Mrl33t: but that's getting desperate :)
[03:52] <Khaaaaaan> How can I get punkbuster to self update?
[03:52] <seismicmike> sudo alien -i (package.rpm)
[03:52] <dooglus> Mrl33t: alternatively, I'd look to see if it's possible to get wine to update its idea of where the CD is on the fly
[03:53] <Mrl33t> dooglus, lol... maybe if i get bored later
[03:53] <Khaaaaaan> Anyone?
[03:53] <seismicmike> if that doesn't work:
[03:53] <Mrl33t> dooglus, i'll have to look into wine config
[03:53] <endo> se
[03:53] <seismicmike> sudo alien [filename] 
[03:53] <endo> you trying to pm me?
[03:53] <dooglus> Mrl33t: "cp -pr /media/iso1 /media/iso" would do the copy
[03:53] <seismicmike> sudo dpkg -i [filename] 
[03:53] <niels_> all: hello? i just want to figure out how to watch a dvd on ubuntu... is it possible or no? if so, where do i start?
[03:53] <endo> thanks man
[03:53] <seismicmike> now as for where you go to get the executable after that i have no clue
[03:53] <seismicmike> but that's supposed to work
[03:53] <KinkoBlast> Does anyone know if Windows Media Player supports Ogg?
[03:54] <dooglus> niels_: it's possible.  i've watched a few.  I used "mplayer dvd:///" I think.
[03:54] <Epix> how can i find this?
[03:54] <rekrutacja> hi all. is there any Ubuntu equivalent of Debian Weekly News? some newsletter or news webpage which will keep me up-to-date?
[03:54] <dooglus> niels_: xine can also play them
[03:54] <sproingie> KinkoBlast: it can if you get the codec
[03:54] <_jaypee> anyone have .deb file for amarok 1.3.3?
[03:54] <dooglus> niels_: in xine you get the whole DVD nagivation thing going on, too
[03:54] <KinkoBlast> sproingie: Darn... I'm stuck with WMP at school.
[03:54] <seismicmike> haha!
[03:54] <blunted> i installed some new shit with synaptic and i cant see them on my applications menu how do i fix that?
[03:54] <sproingie> KinkoBlast: just install the ogg codec
[03:55] <seismicmike> so... i downloaded the rpm for realplayer
[03:55] <dooglus> blunted: what shit in particular?
[03:55] <seismicmike> and installed it like i described above
[03:55] <blunted> 60 something
[03:55] <blunted> mostly games
[03:55] <seismicmike> i can't find where the executable is for it
[03:55] <niels_> dooglus: thanks, is xine a package on synaptic, or do i have to download it?
[03:55] <nalioth> blunted: language please and were they console apps or gui apps?
[03:55] <seismicmike> does anybody know where that is?
[03:55] <KinkoBlast> sprongie: At SCHOOL? Those things are more locked down than Area 51!
[03:55] <bimberi> rekrutacja: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
[03:55] <nalioth> dooglus: please watch your tongue
[03:55] <soulslayer8703> Hello
[03:55] <dooglus> niels_: it's on symantic, yes.
[03:55] <soulslayer8703> i need some help
[03:55] <soulslayer8703> please
[03:55] <blunted> lol, gui
[03:55] <endo> seismicmike that is for deb
[03:55] <soulslayer8703> somebody?
[03:55] <blunted> unless u can play 3d games in console
[03:56] <endo> it is not allowing me to do rpm
[03:56] <seismicmike> hmmmmm
[03:56] <Mrl33t> dooglus, how do you delete a directory and all of it contents again?
[03:56] <dooglus> niels_: I guess I had to install the dvd decryption package too.
[03:56] <dooglus> Mrl33t: "rm -r <dir>"
[03:56] <seismicmike> sudo alien [filename] 
[03:56] <Mrl33t> dooglus, thanks
[03:56] <seismicmike> makes a deb out of your rpm
[03:56] <Jeffrae> I have one CDt hat appears to be unreadable under Ubuntu
[03:56] <dooglus> Mrl33t: "rm -fr <dir>" to stop it asking stuff
[03:56] <seismicmike> and then sudo dpkg -i [filename] .deb
[03:56] <endo>  command now found
[03:56] <endo> not
[03:56] <dooglus> Mrl33t: "rm -ri <dir>" to get it to confirm the deletion for each file
[03:57] <seismicmike> hmmm
[03:57] <seismicmike> oh... you may have to apt-get install alien first
[03:57] <seismicmike> sorry
[03:57] <sockpuppe1> my azureus is broken
[03:57] <Mrl33t> dooglus, ok thanks
[03:57] <jayparadise> can i change the source with the default pacakges like grub and lilo from the cdrom to an ftp site?
[03:57] <endo> damn it
[03:57] <sockpuppe1> i think this is due to the breezy upgrade
[03:57] <blunted> how do i add my stuff to the applications menu
[03:57] <seismicmike> really sorry :(
[03:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jayparadise about repos
[03:57] <blunted> i want to play the games i just installed
[03:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell blunted about smeg
[03:57] <rekrutacja> bimberi fridge is not a real news source, its  several blogs  which often are far from being ubuntu specific...
[03:57] <johnsie2k> !kubuntu
[03:57] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:58] <sockpuppe1> anyone have an idea how I can fix azureus
[03:58] <sockpuppe1> ?
[03:58] <jayparadise> im actually on kubuntu but they arent very responsive
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> sockpuppe1, #azuerus-users
[03:58] <dooglus> sockpuppe1: what's wrong with it?
[03:58] <endo> it says errors encopuntered while processing
[03:58] <seismicmike> on the apt-get?
[03:58] <sockpuppe1> it just wont start
[03:58] <bimberi> rekrutacja: ok, if you think so, although that's what I'd call http://planet.ubuntu.com :)
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> sockpuppe1, you got java ?
[03:59] <rekrutacja> bimberi, also its very slow - last message is 8 days old now
[03:59] <sockpuppe1> as far as I know yeah
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> sockpuppe1, pls confirm it pls ...
[03:59] <dooglus> sockpuppe1: when I switched to breezy it broke - it would start, but transfers would sit at 0Kb/s both up and down.
[03:59] <rekrutacja> bimberi, planet is even worse :-)
[03:59] <sockpuppe1> how java -v?
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> java -version
[03:59] <Marko> how do I get sound working in gaim?
[03:59] <dooglus> sockpuppe1: a solution was only found by switching from GNU java to Sun java
[03:59] <endo> blunted did you pm me?
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> dooglus, i am using blackdown ... and happily using azureus
[04:00] <niels_> dooglus: thanks... does that package include w32codecs and libdivx4linux?
[04:00] <Jeffrae> Does anyone here go on BBS's with ubuntu using an ANSI terminal?
[04:00] <blunted> no
[04:00] <sockpuppe1> java -version java version "1.4.2"gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[04:00] <blunted> i didnt pm anyone
[04:00] <rekrutacja> bimberi, so nothing like DebianWeeklyNews exists?
[04:00] <blunted> why
[04:00] <blunted> was i suppsto?
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> sockpuppe1, when you run azureus any errors ?
[04:01] <dooglus> niels_: there's the problem.  it was a long time ago when I got DVD playback working, and all the 'dodgy' packages have been moved since.
[04:01] <bimberi> rekrutacja: looks like there's an opportunity awaiting you then :)
[04:01] <sockpuppe1> when I started it all I got was splash screen
[04:01] <rekrutacja> bimberi, not with my english
[04:01] <bimberi> rekrutacja: not to my (limited) knowledge :)
[04:01] <sockpuppe1> but  I never ran it from console
[04:01] <dooglus> sockpuppe1: try this: ls -l /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java
[04:01] <rekrutacja> bimberi, i was looking for it to start translation project
[04:01] <blackdragon> hello
[04:01] <dooglus> sockpuppe1: so you see sun java?
[04:01] <endo> what is the command to extract a tar ?
[04:02] <niels_> dooglus: i guess i will just follow the ubuntu guide and hope i am not installing things i don't need... thanks again...
[04:02] <dooglus> endo: "tar xf <archive>"
[04:02] <sockpuppe1> i removed azureus
[04:02] <jayparadise> heh just had to comment out the cdrom source
[04:02] <bimberi> rekrutacja: looks ok to me here :)
[04:02] <endo> thanks
[04:02] <sockpuppe1> what package I showed you
[04:02] <rekrutacja> bimberi, believe me you dont want me to edit news pieces :-)))
[04:02] <blackdragon> how can i uninstall gnome and install kde only on ubuntu?
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> sockpuppe1, i suppose java is the problem here ... you can try sun java or blackdown
[04:02] <bimberi> rekrutacja: lol, nor me probably :)
[04:03] <odie5533> What great development utilities do I have on Ubuntu? :)
[04:03] <mcadory> blackdragon: kubuntu
[04:03] <sockpuppe1> is azureus in the repos
[04:03] <dooglus> azureus doesn't work with gjc
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> sockpuppe1, nope
[04:03] <blackdragon> but i have de ubuntu cd's
[04:03] <odie5533> azureus works with blackdown which works fine
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> OddAbe19, gcc + gdb ... and so on and on
[04:03] <sockpuppe1> so how do i install?
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> agreed with OddAbe19
[04:03] <bimberi> odie5533: vi :P
[04:03] <odie5533> wickedpuppy, you mean odie5533?
[04:03] <OddAbe19> ?
[04:03] <odie5533> vi or vim?
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> oh
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:03] <OddAbe19> i didn't say anything
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> odie5533,
[04:04] <odie5533> ;)
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> sorry
[04:04] <OddAbe19> lol
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> sockpuppe1, you get blackdown then
[04:04] <odie5533> poor OddAbe19, got up for nothing
[04:04] <bimberi> odie5533: you got me, vi is symlinked to vim :)
[04:04] <dooglus> odie5533: you're running azureus in blackdown java?
[04:04] <endo> if there is an install.sh how do i go about installing?
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> two people confirm it works with blackdown
[04:04] <rixth> Does mplayer play VOB files?
[04:04] <odie5533> dooglus: I'm sure its possible. Blackdown works great
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> endo, sh install.sh
[04:04] <blunted> endo, sh install.sh
[04:04] <foxiness> endo, bash install.sh
[04:04] <sockpuppe1> j2re1.4  - blackdown java?
[04:04] <odie5533> (though I prefer Sun, more up to date)
[04:04] <blunted> u have to sudo first
[04:04] <odie5533> sockpuppe1, yes
[04:04] <mcadory> blackdragon:  i think that would be a major undertaking.  kubuntu is specifically built for what you want.  Ubuntu is tailored to gnome, kubuntu for kde.
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> sockpuppe1, yes
[04:04] <blunted> most times
[04:05] <dooglus> odie5533: I'm using sun java.  but it's a real memory hog.  I'm wondering if blackdown is any smaller?
[04:05] <foxiness> endo, or ./install.sh
[04:05] <endo> thanks
[04:05] <odie5533> I'm wondering the differences myself =/
[04:05] <odie5533> Just buy more memory. I doubt Java is much improvable having to load the JVM and all, so I doubt it will ever get less, only more
[04:05] <blackdragon> ok mcadory thanks....
[04:05] <dooglus> odie5533: what do you see as the number when you     ps -eo sz,cmd | grep 'java.*azureus'
[04:06] <blackdragon> i'm so newbie on ubuntu....
[04:06] <odie5533> dooglus: I use Sun, and I use the default Bittorrent client with Ubuntu
[04:06] <sockpuppe1> since azureus is not in repos how should I install?
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> sockpuppe1, azureus.sourceforge.net
[04:06] <dooglus> odie5533: the default bittorrent client is ok, but it doesn't have a lot of the features azureus does
[04:06] <blackdragon> kde is better than gnome?
[04:06] <odie5533> sockpuppe1, You sure it isn't in repos?
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> yes ... azureus is not in repo ...
[04:07] <odie5533> just dl the Jar file download sockpuppe1 and then type "java -jar <jarfile>"
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> no use porting a java app
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> neither is eclipse
[04:07] <dooglus> odie5533: such as being able to use multiple trackers per torrent, or even downloading a torrent after the tracker has stopped tracking.
[04:07] <mcadory> blackdragon:  http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[04:07] <sockpuppe1> can I make that file into a deb easily?
[04:07] <odie5533> I suppose thats true. I don't use torrents much at all, mainly just downloading Linux iso's.
[04:07] <chasmarang> I'm having a floppy drive mount problem - can someone help please?
[04:07] <gpled> has anyone tried to settup ubuntu with kerberos for authentication?
[04:08] <dooglus> odie5533: even for ubuntu isos, there have been times when the ubuntu tracker has been down for days at a time.  using azureus I was able to complete my iso download.
[04:08] <odie5533> What other development suites are there for Ubuntu aside from vim? And what is the most widely use language on the Linux platform for general application development
[04:09] <odie5533> dooglus: Then it may be wise to try to download Azureus =P
[04:09] <dooglus> odie5533: vim is just a text editor isn't it?
[04:09] <odie5533> dooglus: Never used it much, so I can't really say
[04:09] <sockpuppe1> im assuming that i should download the linux gtk version?
[04:09] <odie5533> sockpuppe1: of what
[04:09] <sockpuppe1> azureus
[04:09] <sockpuppe1> from their website
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, vim is not dev suite
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> emacsc is
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> :P
[04:09] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: install it by hand
[04:09] <odie5533> Its a Java program though, it shouldn't quite matter
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> emacsc
[04:10] <odie5533> wickedpuppy: Do you program at all?
[04:10] <dooglus> odie5533: I'm currently downloading a torrent.  I'm connected to 25 seeds.  The tracker reports there are only 4 seeds in the swarm...
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> yes
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> why ?
[04:10] <sockpuppe1> ok
[04:10] <odie5533> What do you program?
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> c/c++/lisp/perl/python/java/php
[04:10] <odie5533> What do you use most and why?
[04:10] <KinkoBlast> Can Ubuntu use .deb packages, as it is a modified Debian?
[04:10] <dooglus> emacs lisp mostly - customising his development environment :)
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> i use c/c++ most ... the best out there
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> KinkoBlast, yes
[04:11] <odie5533> KinkoBlast, yes, dpkg - i <packagename>
[04:11] <GregAsche_> crimsun: that didn't fix it
[04:11] <odie5533> *-i, not - i
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> lisp too yah ... but i hate ((()))(())()(
[04:11] <GregAsche_> any other ideas?
[04:11] <jrattner1> Are there any aggregators that work in the status bar of gnome (not Blam or straw)
[04:11] <odie5533> wickedpuppy, for C++ programming, what editor/development suite do you use?
[04:11] <endo> man this sux
[04:11] <endo> i still cant get this thing to work
[04:11] <sockpuppe1> is there a way I can create Azureus as a .?deb
[04:11] <endo> 1280 by 800\
[04:11] <sockpuppe1> *.deb
[04:11] <endo> that is what i want
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, emacs
[04:12] <nemo_> Does anyone know if Evolution mail can be set up to retrieve Netscape webmail?
[04:12] <odie5533> wickedpuppy: You don't code any GUI's do you?
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> sockpuppe1, why ? the point of java is for xplatform ...
[04:12] <sockpuppe1> never mind haha
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, both gtk and kde has UI design programs
[04:12] <GregAsche_> crimsun, you here?
[04:12] <chasmarang> I'm having a floppy drive mount problem - can anyone help
[04:13] <dooglus> jrattner1: I use "liferea".  it can use the gnome system tray, but doesn't by default.
[04:13] <odie5533> wickedpuppy, which programs? Are they in the breezy repos?
[04:13] <feaces> ohhh i feel soooo assinine
[04:13] <mcrawfor> hey folks - when i hit the volume keys on my keyboard, the volume changes for one of my sound cards... how can I change it so the volume keys affect the other sound card..?
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, glade and kdevelop designer
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> yes both glade and kdevelop are in repo
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> if you like gui ... i recomment eclipse
[04:13] <feaces> do any of you guys ever have problems installing non ubuntu packages
[04:13] <jrattner1> dooglus, is that in the repositories?
[04:13] <feaces> their Debian
[04:13] <odie5533> wickedpuppy, which do you prefer, glade or kdevelop? Are they different? What languages are they compatible with?
[04:13] <feaces> packages
[04:13] <dooglus> jrattner1: yup.
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> feaces, non ubuntu ... pls explain
[04:13] <feaces> buuuuuuuuut.
[04:14] <feaces> think i might be looking at linspire
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, glade = gtk+ apps ...kdevelop designer is for qt
[04:14] <dooglus> jrattner1: in universe.
[04:14] <jrattner1> thanx dooglus
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> feaces, packages as in ? not .deb ?
[04:14] <feaces> toook agees to find some "unofficial" documentation just to play mp3'z
[04:14] <dooglus> jrattner1: I tried blam and straw and found neither was good enough
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> feaces, did you ask here ?
[04:14] <chasmarang> I'm having a floppy drive mount problem - can someone help please?
[04:14] <feaces> and watch my porn
[04:14] <feaces> no
[04:14] <chasmarang> Unable to mount the selected volume.  Error:given UDI is not a mountable volume
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:14] <odie5533> wickedpuppy, what is the difference between qt and gtk+? Do you prefer one to the other? If so, why?
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> !restrictedformats
[04:14] <ubotu> [restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:14] <feaces> they are all **.deb
[04:15] <odie5533> feaces, type "dpkg -i <package name>"
[04:15] <sockpuppe1> azureus is whining about old java
[04:15] <sockpuppe1> is that ok?
[04:15] <odie5533> sockpuppe1, only if it runs
[04:15] <shiftaa> breezy? huh... /me goes and checks it out...
[04:15] <odie5533> if it runs, ignore it
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, qt is cleaner but gtk is totally opensource , gtk = c , qt = c++
[04:16] <sockpuppe1> excellent then
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> your call
[04:16] <sockpuppe1> thanks alot
[04:16] <gusto5> hello folks
[04:16] <sockpuppe1> hello gusto5
[04:16] <redeeman> i have a few issues left with this ubuntu
[04:16] <odie5533> wickedpuppy, which call did you make? How unopensourcefriendly (a new word of mine) is qt?
[04:16] <foxiness> hi gusto5
[04:16] <chasmarang> hello people
[04:16] <gusto5> hello foxiness-ness and sockpuppe1
[04:17] <foxiness> redeeman, what ?
[04:17] <sockpuppe1> whats goin on man?
[04:17] <seismicmike> hey, have a good time all :)
[04:17] <gusto5> nothing much. preparing for my psych mid-term tmr.
[04:17] <poimen> I need help installing the ivtv module on breezy, I upgraded my kernel from 386 to 686 then I installed the linux-headers-686
[04:17] <redeeman> foxiness: the first is, that the windows network browser doesent work
[04:17] <samue1> im using nero linux and the fonts are a little messed up in it, anyone know how to fix it?
[04:17] <redeeman> (when i select it in gnome)
[04:17] <corvix> redeeman: so what is it?
[04:17] <puff> Evening.
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, if your app is all opensource/free qt is also free ... but if you wanna go commercial , then you gotta cough up lots of cash ... i go with gtk really ... it seems to be improving a lot
[04:17] <puff> How do i reset the root password?
[04:17] <poimen> and when I do make for the module I get a log error here is the output http://pastebin.com/400503
[04:17] <sockpuppe1> gusto ive got soc midterm tomorrow
[04:17] <sockpuppe1> ugggh
[04:18] <puff> Do I just reset my user account password?
[04:18] <redeeman> it just shows that there are no smb shares out there
[04:18] <shiftaa> trolltech the makers of qt are not just open source they have commercial ventures as well so if i were you I would read the fine print in the qt licensing..
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> puff, you don't have root pass .. how to reset ? no need root .. use sudo
[04:18] <gusto5> lol sockpuppe1. where you from?
[04:18] <odie5533> wickedpuppy, gtk is compatible with C++ programs though, right? Even though it is C?
[04:18] <redeeman> but i know for a fact that 2 boxes are sharing - one gentoo with samba, and one windows xp
[04:18] <sockpuppe1> new york
[04:18] <gusto5> cool.
[04:18] <gusto5> T.Dot.
[04:18] <gusto5> i mean rofl.
[04:18] <gusto5> toronto.
[04:18] <sockpuppe1> wow
[04:18] <sockpuppe1> lol
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> gtk has its own api and such ... compatiable ... how ?
[04:18] <puff> wickedpuppy: i'm trying to allow a friend to borrow my PC.
[04:18] <corvix> redeeman: same here ... one machine (breezy) is set up to share smb stuff ... but the other machine doesnt sho it
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> puff, then create a user for him
[04:19] <odie5533> wickedpuppy, can I call the gtk api from a c++ program?
[04:19] <gusto5> corvix, how are you networked?
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> and make sure he got no access to sudo
[04:19] <corvix> gusto: networked which way?
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, i suppose so .. never tried that one
[04:19] <puff> wickedpuppy: no, no, this is an extremely good friend, i want to give him full access.
[04:19] <sockpuppe1> im outta here... .ive got a pretty unstable connection
[04:19] <gusto5> corvix, router...hub...switch....?
[04:19] <sockpuppe1> take it easy
[04:19] <redeeman> corvix: this is a breezy which doesent find others shares (or its own for that matter)
[04:19] <gusto5> ok sockpuppe1 laters. GL!
[04:19] <dooglus> puff: you can "sudo passed" to set a root password
[04:19] <corvix> gusto: got two machines runnig via switch (which is in a router)
[04:19] <shiftaa> how are the packages for breezy are they as robust as hoary?
[04:19] <shiftaa> are there as many
[04:20] <puff> dooglus: Thankyou.
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> puff, then give him your account
[04:20] <puff> dooglus: sudo passed, or sudo passwd?
[04:20] <foxiness> redeeman, i dont know how this 'samba' work on gentoo coz the ubuntu integerte this with the system
[04:20] <gusto5> corvix, do you have DHCP setup properly?
[04:20] <puff> wickedpuppy: yeah, I could just do that.
[04:20] <odie5533> wickedpuppy, are most programs made in C or C++ for linux?
[04:20] <warreng> i installed mysql 4.1, but it seems to be using the old password method
[04:20] <dooglus> puff: you can "sudo passwd" to set a root password
[04:20] <endo> does gedit come with ubuntu?
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> foxiness, samba is samba ... it doesn't matter which distro  ...
[04:20] <warreng> what do i change so it uses new mysql-style passwords?
[04:20] <dooglus> (it's dark)
[04:20] <puff> dooglus: thanks.
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> endo, yes
[04:20] <endo> hmmm
[04:20] <corvix> gusto ... DHCP works fine ... but just for friends logging in ... my own two machines got fixed IPs
[04:20] <endo> not working
[04:20] <endo> for me
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> endo, what you typed ?
[04:21] <gusto5> corvix, are you at  a "cant log in" stage or a "cant see computer" stage?
[04:21] <endo> sudo gedit xorg.conf
[04:21] <niels_> dooglus: i have totem apparently... but it locks up when trying to play the dvd... the guide says to enter the following "sudo apt-get install regionset
[04:21] <niels_>  regionset"... when i do this, it tells me the following: "Reading package lists... Done
[04:21] <niels_> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:21] <niels_> regionset is already the newest version.
[04:21] <niels_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:21] <niels_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:21] <odie5533> endo: that should work, what did it say
[04:21] <niels_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:21] <odie5533> niels_: stop!
[04:21] <niels_> " what the hell does that mean?
[04:21] <foxiness> wickedpuppy, i know the samba is samba and .deb it .deb and so on but on real life it diff :)
[04:21] <endo> bash: gedit: command not found
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> foxiness, lol ... ok ok :P
[04:21] <Discipulus> niels_, do not paste to channel
[04:21] <nalioth> niels_: PLEASE dont paste in here
[04:21] <corvix> gusto regarding what?
[04:21] <chasmarang> wickedpuppy-> can you help me
[04:21] <redeeman> foxiness: samba is set correctly up on gentoo, it has a few shares which both my own (linux laptop) and dads windows xp box can see
[04:21] <odie5533> niels_, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[04:21] <redeeman> foxiness: but ubuntu can find no shares
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> endo, funny ... sudo apt-get install gedit then
[04:22] <nalioth> niels_: please read channel topics when you enter them
[04:22] <gusto5> corvix, can you explain your situation one more time?
[04:22] <dooglus> niels_: looks like the backports sources are missing
[04:22] <redeeman> but i can mount them manually
[04:22] <corvix> gusto: my one machine doesnt see the smb shares of the other ... NFS works fine
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> chasmarang, eh ah whats the prob ?
[04:22] <puff> is it possible to "log out" and have it suspend my use session?
[04:22] <redeeman> but that just isnt enough, this is my brothers laptop, he cant work the shell
[04:22] <puff> As opposed to shutting down with a suspend to disk.
[04:22] <corvix> gusto: though NFS is set up manually
[04:22] <gusto5> corvix, try running smb://staticIP
[04:22] <endo> couldnt find package gedit
[04:22] <gusto5> corvix, running being alt+f2 fyi
[04:22] <endo> that is what it said
[04:22] <odie5533> wickedpuppy, are most linux/ubuntu programs made using C or C++?
[04:22] <chasmarang> floppy drive wont mount
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, c
[04:22] <corvix> gusto: i think we got messed up .. for me everything is working ;-)
[04:23] <puff> i.e. so my friend can log into the account I just created, work, etc, then when he's done, i can just log back in and still have firefox windows, emacs, etc, up and running.
[04:23] <puff> I could swear I did this by accident once.
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> endo, no gedit ? you sure you are using ubuntu ?
[04:23] <endo> kubuntu
[04:23] <chasmarang> it was mounting but then it quit on me
[04:23] <corvix> gusto aside the smb shares but i dont need them
[04:23] <niels_> all:the ubuntu site says to come her eto get techincal support... that is what i am doing... what else would you have me do? thanks dooglus for answering...
[04:23] <puff> I'm a little new at the X desktop  world.
[04:23] <foxiness> redeeman, am test this and it work with me after i add this "folder from ubuntu and folder from windows"
[04:23] <redeeman> corvix: so if you select places -> network servers, and then go into windows network, you can see shares?
[04:23] <odie5533> wickedpuppy, what is C++ useful for then? Are any programs on linux made in C++?
[04:23] <gusto5> corvix, on the computer that DOESNT see something, try smb://IPofOTHERCOMPUTER and it MAY work.
[04:23] <redeeman> foxiness: i dont understnad?
[04:23] <corvix> gusto no i cant ....
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, kde is almos tentirely in c++
[04:23] <shiftaa> are any programs made in c++? :)
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> kde is in c++
[04:23] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[04:23] <niels_> dooglus: where do i find the backport sources?
[04:23] <corvix> gusto but i dont worry as im using nfs anyway
[04:23] <gusto5> corvix, umm...ok :)
[04:24] <gusto5> good. cause im off to study :P
[04:24] <shiftaa> almost anything that you install using ./configure make make install is in C++... afaik
[04:24] <dooglus> niels_: I've never ever used backports.  I've heard various horror stories.
[04:24] <corvix> gusto ... but the bnfs is set up manually as well ... the GUI doenst work very well
[04:24] <chasmarang> yeah wickedpuppy hows it goin - - floppy drive wont mount - it was mounting but then it quit on me
[04:24] <foxiness> redeeman, can you test this with windows with windows to see it work or not
[04:24] <redeeman> samba server is working on the ubuntu, just not as client
[04:24] <blunted> whos the guy who told me about smeg
[04:24] <blunted> i wanna chop his legs off
[04:24] <Davey> blunted, probably Amaranth, its his application
[04:24] <endo> wicked i got it working now
[04:25] <odie5533> wickedpuppy, So then most KDE programs use KDevelop? Is there a way to code a GUI without using an api library on linux?
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> chasmarang, floppy drive ? eh ah
[04:25] <EnsignRedshirt> Are there any top-panel email notification app (like the one that was in warty) for breezy?  I've been trying to used "mail notification" (or something like that), but once the envelope icon appears, it never goes away, even after I've read my email.
[04:25] <blunted> and then set his house on fire and watch as he pulls his bloodys nubs out of his burning house
[04:25] <chasmarang> wickedpuppy, yep
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, gui without api ? X
[04:25] <endo> i had to install the updates
[04:25] <endo> then install gedit
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> wait even X got api ...
[04:25] <corvix> odie .. you wanna code a prog independeand of OS?
[04:25] <dooglus> blunted: why?
[04:25] <blunted> because
[04:25] <odie5533> corvix: A code independant of an overliscensed library
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> how to code anything without API ??
[04:25] <blunted> something to do with python being too old
[04:26] <g5|away> endo.. sudo apt-get install gedit*
[04:26] <poimen> I really need help with ivtv I just erased my windows partition and that is the only thing I need getting working so i have all my hardware working in this funtinal PC
[04:26] <corvix> odie ... there are some options ...
[04:26] <chasmarang> wickedpuppy-> I rebooted a couple of times didn't help either
[04:26] <corvix> odie ... what language do you wann acode in?
[04:26] <odie5533> QT sounds great but the liscensing for commericial use it a setback as I see it
[04:26] <odie5533> corvix: C++
[04:26] <EnsignRedshirt> odie5533: FLTK?
[04:26] <redeeman> odie5533: you can use it as gpl commcercially
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> chasmarang, eh ah ... i never use floopy since 5 years ago ... sorry dude ..
[04:26] <corvix> odie on some project i used FLTK ... its quite protable and free
[04:27] <mllr> does ubuntu have a quicktime install package?
[04:27] <corvix> odie other way would be java using swing ...
[04:27] <odie5533> googling...
[04:27] <redeeman> foxiness: i think you misunderstand me
[04:27] <chasmarang> wickedpuppy-> any where I can find help
[04:27] <odie5533> corvix: Java... I think I'll pass on that one
[04:27] <redeeman> foxiness: the ubuntu computer can not find any windows shares on the network, even though both another linux computer has samba, and a windows xp box is sharing a folder
[04:27] <g5|away> chasmarang, floppy won't MOUNT?!
[04:28] <manji> odie5533: just C++ with GTK
[04:28] <GregAsche_> can someone help? I upgraded to breezy and now gdm won't start, it gives me libglcore.a, libfb.a, and fglrx errors
[04:28] <corvix> odie FLTK stand for FastLightToolKit ... which is quite right ,,, fast light ... so its not as comprehensive as other APIs
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> chasmarang, here ...
[04:28] <geno_> Rhythmbox won't start, how can I reinstall it? What is the reinstall command?
[04:28] <chasmarang> g5|away-> yes
[04:28] <g5|away> chasmarang, anything in fstab?
[04:28] <odie5533> manji: I was told GTK was mainly for C rather than C++? Is it easily implimented?
[04:28] <corvix> odie ... but fast and easy to learn ...
[04:28] <redeeman> odie5533: gtkmm
[04:28] <corvix> odie and with a easy GUI editor
[04:28] <g5|away> geno_, use the "add applications" to remove and re-add
[04:28] <manji> odie5533: oh yes, very easily. and the C thing you heard is untrue
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:29] <foxiness> redeeman, try to reinstall samba or re-confingure samba
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> that would be my fault
[04:29] <manji> odie5533: GTK was built with object-orientation in mind
[04:29] <odie5533> np wickedpuppy, just wanna code with C++ and a nice library
[04:29] <redeeman> foxiness: why would it be samba that's the problem? you dont need samba to browse samba shares
[04:29] <corvix> @GTK but based on C
[04:29] <chasmarang> g5|away-> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto
[04:29] <cfh_dev> Has anybody tried the new Flock internet browser?
[04:29] <g5|away> chasmarang, and you cant' mount that? or are you saying you pop in the floopy and it wont read?
[04:29] <odie5533> manji, so by using GTK you mean Glade correct?
[04:30] <corvix> @GTK or notm i never actually got to really look into it ... i really like the concept of java
[04:30] <nalioth> cfh_dev: flock discriminates. i run powerpc
[04:30] <manji> odie5533: you could use Glade, yes, but hand-coding isn't too bad either. Granted, Glad is nice
[04:30] <jordan> hello fellow ubuntu-ers
[04:30] <Chrissum> hey guys, how do you make ubuntu boot, instead of windows? windows always seems to get default and i don't get grub or anything
[04:30] <g5|away> hello jordan
[04:30] <corvix> hey jordan
[04:30] <cfh_dev> nalioth: no good about the discrimination.  It seems to be just a hyped up Firefox anyway
[04:30] <jordan> Anyone in here know about warcraft III: FT on Breezy?
[04:30] <jordan> I can't seem to get it started... :(
[04:30] <odie5533> manji: Is Glade/Hand coding GTK expandable? IE you can add components for resusability in the MS Visual Studio
[04:31] <chasmarang> g5|away-> I've tried several floppies that all work - I can mount them using sudo mount - but not mounting in "Places"
[04:31] <nalioth> cfh_dev: be nice if they released source code so i could run it on my powerpc box(en)
[04:31] <corvix> reusability .. use java
[04:31] <g5|away> chasmarang, that...i have no idea, sorry :P
[04:31] <whaley> if i'm using nvidia-settings, should I have more than 4 options available?
[04:31] <chasmarang> g5|away-> I get - Unable to mount the selected volume.  Error:given UDI is not a mountable volume
[04:31] <g5|away> weird...
[04:31] <dooglus> what program is good for watching DVDs in ubuntu?
[04:31] <endo> where can i find synaptic package manager?
[04:31] <odie5533> corvix: I've used it and I'm done with it, lol.
[04:31] <Toma-> dooglus: xine
[04:32] <odie5533> dooglus: totem!
[04:32] <manji> odie5533: by that, do you mean you want to code and design it in MSVC, or just view it in MSVC? or something else...
[04:32] <Vice> Anyone tell me how to change what services are started on boot? Im using server 5.10, no gui.
[04:32] <whaley> endo, System->Administration
[04:32] <Vice> Guess I can't use BUM
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> endo, system -> administration -> synaptic
[04:32] <whaley> its listed there
[04:32] <corvix> odie i had the same ... on first approach ...
[04:32] <GregAsche_> can someone help? I upgraded to breezy and now gdm won't start, it gives me libglcore.a, libfb.a, and fglrx errors
[04:32] <dooglus> odie5533: totem-xine?  or totem-gstreamer?
[04:32] <g5|away> jordan, what's up?
[04:32] <redeeman> i guess breezy cant be fixed right now with smb browsing - onto next issue
[04:32] <geno_> I need help! rhythbox won't start! I tried reinstalling and as soon as it starts it stops and I get an error
[04:32] <endo> hmmm
[04:32] <odie5533> manji: neither, it was merely an example of expandability. As in to add components to MSVC such in the way of adding to Glade/GTK
[04:32] <foxiness> tell redeeman about samba
[04:32] <odie5533> dooglues: totem-xine
[04:32] <corvix> odie now ive been studying it for a year ... and i really like the concepts of java
[04:32] <endo> i dont got administration
[04:32] <g5|away> geno_, do you have CODECS?
[04:32] <endo> i got kubuntu
[04:32] <foxiness> ubotu, tell redeeman about samba
[04:32] <g5|away> !tell geno_ about w32codecs
[04:32] <cfh_dev> nalioth: Do you see any compelling reason to try Flock?  I like the theme of the browser UI but don't see any reason to leave Firefox just yet.
[04:32] <dooglus> I put a DVD in, and totem ran automatically.  odd.
[04:33] <redeeman> foxiness: i know all about samba, and samba is working correcly (i also know how to mount permanently)
[04:33] <nicholaspaul> Flock? (just woken up.. )
[04:33] <geno_> Yes I got codecs
[04:33] <nalioth> cfh_dev: you mean it hasnt stricken you with it's cool new features? lol
[04:33] <odie5533> crovix: I used Java in school for a year, and I've been coding Java for a year and a half. I completely hate the language down to the very last byte in the JVM. thankyou
[04:33] <cfh_dev> nicholaspaul: it's a new web browser
[04:33] <redeeman> foxiness: but i need the samba browsing working, it's for my brother, and he will not be mounting in a terminal
[04:33] <soulslayer8703> hello
[04:33] <soulslayer8703> some help please
[04:33] <g5|away> geno_, file type?
[04:33] <nicholaspaul> reaaaally? oo .
[04:33] <manji> odie5533: ah, with that i'm not sure, i have never tried to let MSVC rape my projects, lol
[04:33] <nicholaspaul> thx cfh_dev
[04:33] <soulslayer8703> please
[04:33] <redeeman> foxiness: it worked in hoary and it works on gentoo
[04:33] <corvix> noone serious would ever say I know everything aout WHATEVER
[04:33] <soulslayer8703> help
[04:33] <cfh_dev> nalioth: I'm afraid I don't blog or interact on the web in the ways their promoting
[04:33] <cfh_dev> s/their/they're/
[04:34] <nalioth> cfh_dev: me neither
[04:34] <corvix> odie: what did disturb you with java?
[04:34] <g5|away> cfh_dev, what browser?
[04:34] <geno_> g5|away: just start it, click on the icon and the wizard shows and then I click onext and POOF! error!
[04:34] <nalioth> cfh_dev: plus i cant run it anyway
[04:34] <odie5533> manji: Then you've never used .NET. I quite enjoyed programming in C# .NET, but its memory usage and slow file access speed really dissapointed me.
[04:34] <soulslayer8703> somebody
[04:34] <soulslayer8703> help please
[04:34] <g5|away> geno_, file type?
[04:34] <redeeman> odie5533: mono is fast
[04:34] <Vice> Is there an equivalent to "rc-update" from Gentoo in Ubuntu. Also like "chkconfig" in Fedora?
[04:34] <manji> odie5533: I have actually worked extensively in MSVC when I worked at Intel, and I understand what you mean
[04:34] <odie5533> manji: I file parsing program run in .NET took about 30 seconds to complete. The same program recoded in C by a friend of mine for me finished next to zero.
[04:34] <Vice> Just need to edit the services
[04:35] <Toma-> Vice: update-rc.d
[04:35] <soulslayer8703> guys
[04:35] <geno_> g5|away: file type? what do you mean exactly? ext3?
[04:35] <Vice> Tom: Ahhh... thanks!
[04:35] <cfh_dev> g5|away: Flock
[04:35] <foxiness> redeeman, did sure the lan work ping windows-ip ,or disable firewall if you have one
[04:35] <soulslayer8703> i have a problem here
[04:35] <geno_> I'm not trying to read anything
[04:35] <corvix> @C# can anyone concentrate the difference to C++ in a few words?
[04:35] <manji> odie5533: yeah, .NET is quite slow
[04:35] <Toma-> soulslayer8703: just freakin ask
[04:35] <alnr> i am trying to install a package and I get "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed" I tried install libc6 but it says its already the latest
[04:35] <GregAsche_> can someone help? I upgraded to breezy and now gdm won't start, it gives me libglcore.a, libfb.a, and fglrx errors
[04:35] <g5|away> geno_, oh. try to remove it from synaptic then.
[04:35] <g5|away> geno_, reinstall it that way?
[04:35] <soulslayer8703> somebody can just help me, i only need to configure a wireless lan in linux
[04:35] <soulslayer8703> somebody
[04:35] <Vice> Toma: Ahhh, thanks!!
[04:35] <odie5533> manji: Its actually fast for something which I found quite odd. But file manipulation is NOT one of its strong points.
[04:35] <Toma-> GregAsche_: reconfigure your fglrx package
[04:36] <Chrissum> how do i get grub to boot, on startup. it just skips to windows
[04:36] <tedor> :(
[04:36] <GregAsche_> Toma-: How?
[04:36] <Toma-> soulslayer8703: google would be more useful
[04:36] <manji> odie5533: and what did you find speed in specifically?
[04:36] <corvix> GregAsche: what way did you partition your system?
[04:36] <geno_> g5|away: Yes, it asks for the CD and I got it and I put it in
[04:36] <soulslayer8703> believe me
[04:36] <soulslayer8703> i tried google
[04:36] <geno_> g5|away: I can't remove it without removing the entire desktop
[04:36] <soulslayer8703> i tried forums
[04:36] <Toma-> GregAsche_: dpkg-reconfigure flglrx or wheatever the package name is
[04:36] <soulslayer8703> i tried everything
[04:36] <GregAsche_> corvix: um, i have a ton of partitions. I had this setup in hoary, I was just upgrading
[04:36] <g5|away> soulslayer8703, try talking about your WLAn specs
[04:36] <redeeman> foxiness: it works to manually mount it, so i cant see why browsing in gnome wouldn't work
[04:36] <Toma-> soulslayer8703: what card is it?
[04:36] <aeon17x> Chrissum: did you install Windows after Ubuntu?
[04:37] <geno_> soulslayer8703: You have an access point or you want ad-hoc?
[04:37] <soulslayer8703> im using a laptop
[04:37] <Chrissum> aeon: no i did not
[04:37] <soulslayer8703> qpcomm card
[04:37] <odie5533> manji: The DirectX Managed API is quite speedy. .NET is NOT faster than C++ for anything, however, its close to it. And a lot closer than Java for instance. It was fairly decent preforming internet tasks, and its ease of use made it ideal for such tasks.
[04:37] <g5|away> geno_, that's very odd..
[04:37] <corvix> greg: so the data is sepreated from system? ... the cleanes wat would be to just reinstall breezy from cd..
[04:37] <soulslayer8703> im using and acces point
[04:37] <Chrissum> aeon: trying to get delete windows
[04:37] <redeeman> odie5533: try calculating prime numbers in C#, then it's slightly faster with mono than using g++ and c++
[04:37] <GregAsche_> okay
[04:37] <redeeman> odie5533: atleast if you use mono
[04:37] <soulslayer8703> it from my neighboor
[04:37] <GregAsche_> how long does that take?
[04:38] <geno_> g5|away: forums?
[04:38] <Toma-> GregAsche_: depends on your machine.
[04:38] <corvix> greg: depends how well you kept your data from the system
[04:38] <Toma-> 300mhz, 5mins?
[04:38] <aeon17x> Chrissum: hmm... never had that problem before, but if you could install GRUB some other way (maybe through a live CD), then do so.
[04:38] <GregAsche_> amd 2500+/1gb ram
[04:38] <corvix> greg: from ger?
[04:38] <foxiness> redeeman, did search bugzilla.ubuntu.com to see if not "this a bug" ?
[04:38] <odie5533> Isn't the MS .NET faster than Mono? I mean they have hundreds of people being paid to optomize it, how could a free project created by supporters surpase optimization of a multibillion dollar companies favorite product?
[04:38] <manji> odie5533: interesting, i have never used the DirectX API at any sort of high-end level, only because I found it to be significantly bloated (albeit complete). but i would easily believe it's speed in managed MSVC
[04:38] <geno_> soulslayer8703: if it has a WEP key you can't access it unless you got it. Try to put the IP addresse in dhcp
[04:38] <redeeman> foxiness: nope
[04:38] <Amaranth> nalioth: I've got a new beta of alacarte that should fix the last known major bug
[04:39] <Amaranth> nalioth: wanna try it?
[04:39] <redeeman> but it's not that important i guess - he will just have to not use filesharing :P
[04:39] <GregAsche_> corvix, huh?
[04:39] <tedor> guys. i messed up and i have no idea what to do :(
[04:39] <soulslayer8703> no wep
[04:39] <soulslayer8703> works in windows perfectly
[04:39] <cfh_dev> odie5533: it doesn't take a big team of monkeys to look outside of the box for optimization
[04:39] <corvix> greg: gyour from gremany?
[04:39] <odie5533> manji: It is overly bloated, I completely agree. So is the C++ DirectX API as I see it.
[04:39] <soulslayer8703> without that
[04:39] <GregAsche_> corvix: no
[04:39] <GregAsche_> america
[04:39] <Chrissum> aeon17x: i used the live cd, maybe i did have to install it.
[04:39] <corvix> greg: ah well ...
[04:39] <soulslayer8703> excuse but i dont know how to use a console
[04:39] <geno_> soulslayer8703: try DHCP... If not... I don't know... if you got the good SSID...
[04:39] <odie5533> cfh_dev: With the incentive of a large amount of bananas I'm sure any monkey would look outside boxes left and right
[04:40] <redeeman> about kernel, currently it uses the standard 386 kernel, should i use the k7 one instead? (its a sempron)
[04:40] <soulslayer8703> i have the ssid
[04:40] <GregAsche_> okay, I guess I'll just resintall then
[04:40] <nicholaspaul> soulsayer8703 - if you search in google for unix terms, its there
[04:40] <corvix> greg: if you have all your data on a different home pratition upgrading is rather easy ..
[04:40] <Amaranth> redeeman: it can only help
[04:40] <GregAsche_> corvix: I do
[04:40] <soulslayer8703> unix terms
[04:40] <GregAsche_> my system install is all on it's own
[04:40] <cfh_dev> odie5533: to a degree.  As long as the monkeys have enough bananas, they don't have a reason to look away
[04:40] <soulslayer8703> thats all i need to know
[04:40] <GregAsche_> should I just grab the ISO, burn it, and write over my current install?
[04:40] <soulslayer8703> believe me i dont know even how to use mount
[04:40] <corvix> greg: what i did is copying all the "hidden" .SOMETHING dirs to a subdir
[04:41] <odie5533> cfh_dev: Where might they be getting those bananas? Certainly not by mere donations I don't think?
[04:41] <UnL0cK> where can i download the ubuntu faq guide to print it?
[04:41] <corvix> then reinstall ...
[04:41] <GregAsche_> that's a good idea
[04:41] <GregAsche_> better backup my fstab too
[04:41] <corvix> and after that copy whatever pref you wanna keep back to home
[04:41] <GregAsche_> took forver to get that working
[04:41] <odie5533> UnL0cK, just use the help file. Its the little life saver at the top of your screen
[04:41] <cfh_dev> odie5533: pride can do a lot of things.  Plus they open up a new realm of possible opps for the devs and supporting companies.
[04:41] <foxiness> redeeman, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26438&highlight=samba+howto
[04:41] <redeeman> Amaranth: okay, i use ndiswrapper too, so, if i apt-get linux-image-k7, will it also update the ndiswrapper module?
[04:41] <qmanman> !ati
[04:41] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:42] <cfh_dev> odie5533: kinda the same thing where JBoss is now supporting MS stuff more and integrating with them.
[04:42] <odie5533> cfh_dev, What about the little monkey? Without access to such large resources, how would he get a banana?
[04:42] <tedor> :(
[04:42] <UnL0cK> thx odie5533, but i aint running ubuntu as we speak :(
[04:42] <GregAsche_> is there a torrent of an ISO for breezy?
[04:42] <GregAsche_> x86
[04:42] <Amaranth> redeeman: did you install ndiswrapper from a package in ubuntu's official repos?
[04:42] <UnL0cK> i want to try it and i like the documentation printed
[04:42] <odie5533> UnL0cK, then unplug your computer quick! there are viruses out there dontcha know?
[04:42] <corvix> greg: shure ... mom
[04:42] <UnL0cK> lol odie5533 xD
[04:42] <redeeman> Amaranth: i just apt-get installed ndiswrapper-utils
[04:42] <cfh_dev> odie5533: it's not always about the bananas.  I code for the chix...  :)
[04:42] <Amaranth> redeeman: afaik it'll still work
[04:42] <djjason> is there significant differnence in running APM or ACPI?
[04:42] <corvix> greg: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/
[04:42] <odie5533> UnL0cK, The Ubuntu wiki a good place to start
[04:43] <Amaranth> redeeman: make sure you get a new linux-restricted-modules to match the new kernel
[04:43] <odie5533> cfh_dev, in my eyes, everything is bananas
[04:43] <nicholaspaul> unl0ck, it doesnt hurt to search the ubuntu forums either.
[04:43] <redeeman> foxiness: i already know how to setup samba, and i already have, it's browsing windows network INSIDE gnome, that does not work
[04:43] <odie5533> nicholaspaul, I disagree. My last install was killed by some of the tutorials on the ubuntu forums :X
[04:43] <UnL0cK> im at http://help.ubuntu.com/faqguide/C/index.html and i would like to print it, but its in html and its a pia to print it that way
[04:44] <grover> heyo, I have an acer laptop that needs an extra driver for the buttons to work. Got it compiled no prob. now, how do I get it to load automatically on boot, preferably before network?
[04:44] <odie5533> Copy paste into Notepad
[04:44] <nicholaspaul> odie5533 : oh man. sorry to hear that. But then the same people could be here giving the same bad advice.
[04:44] <corvix> grover: got that too ... travelmate 600 ... what drivers didi you get?
[04:45] <nalioth> Amaranth: you here?
[04:45] <Amaranth> nalioth: yep
[04:45] <nalioth> did aabot get holt of you?
[04:45] <Amaranth> nalioth: that tracking number still says it's a bad format
[04:45] <Amaranth> nope, it needs to identify
[04:45] <nalioth> Amaranth: yes i can see that
[04:45] <nalioth> aabot is identified
[04:45] <grover> corvix: acerhk driver. seems to work well enough...have to hit a button to turn on wireless, kinda silly
[04:45] <Amaranth> hmm
[04:45] <Amaranth> try it again
[04:46] <manji> hey, can anyone help me with a package problem?
[04:46] <grover> corvix: I have a C110
[04:46] <UnL0cK> odie5533, thats the pia... isnt it in a doc?
[04:46] <odie5533> nicholaspaul, the people here seem smarter than those on the forums
[04:46] <corvix> grover: so can you use all the other buttons? to start mail etc?
[04:46] <odie5533> Define PIA
[04:46] <dbernar1> what is the file to run once you install the postgresql package?
[04:46] <UnL0cK> pain in the ass
[04:46] <manji> pain in the ass
[04:46] <odie5533> lol
[04:46] <UnL0cK> thx manji xD
[04:46] <grover> corvix: holy cow they work!! :)
[04:46] <manji> lol, of course
[04:47] <odie5533> UnL0cK, on the ubuntu help at the top, its actually an interactive program. I think the copy paste is the only way
[04:47] <foxiness> redeeman, i know that man :) i am try to give you all info , "my frineds ask me to help to fix there printer not work" after many all this i ask him if he plug the correct cable and this the prblem :) "he think the prblem hard"
[04:47] <manji> hey, can someone help me with my package problems?
[04:47] <redeeman> foxiness: :)
[04:47] <UnL0cK> ok, thx odie5533 :)
[04:47] <UnL0cK> and everyone too :)
[04:47] <tedor> guys. i was told my ubuntu was instaled without a desktop environment. someone told me how to install it but i took a nap in the middle of it and when i rebooted it didn't look like anything happened :(
[04:47] <aabot> Amaranth, can you see me?
[04:47] <hooligan> what file extension refers to ubuntu? .deb, or .tar.bz2
[04:47] <Amaranth> aabot: yep
[04:47] <nalioth> hooligan: yes
[04:47] <corvix> greg: so how does this work ,.. the tool needs to bee loaded?
[04:48] <hooligan> nalioth, which one?
[04:48] <Amaranth> aabot: try to pm now
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> hooligan, .deb and also .tar.bz2 ... bz2 is source file
[04:48] <corvix> greg: why not just an init script?
[04:49] <tedor> anyone? :(
[04:49] <foxiness> redeeman, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79757&highlight=samba
[04:49] <hooligan> wickedpuppy, i am trying to install gtk-gnutella, what file do i click to run the installation
[04:49] <manji> hey, i want to use python2.3 not python2.4, how could i change?
[04:49] <youngcoder> what is the command to run termina?
[04:49] <youngcoder> terminal*
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> hooligan, is it in repo ?
[04:49] <hooligan> wickedpuppy, what is rep [im 1 day old to linux] 
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> manji, you change the symbolic link
[04:50] <cius> hello again
[04:50] <corvix> tedor: some more information?
[04:50] <wickedpuppy> hooligan, system -> admin -> synaptic
[04:50] <whaley> if installing nvidia drivers, is nvidia-glx-config enable supposed to alter xorg.conf?
[04:50] <tedor> don't know what else there is to tell
[04:50] <Amaranth> whaley: yeah
[04:50] <whaley> hmmm, nothing is happening
[04:50] <youngcoder> anyone know the command for running termina?
[04:50] <cius> would anyone happen to know why breezy doesn't report the size of my flash drive correctly?
[04:50] <redeeman> foxiness: thanks, but im not using firewall at the ubuntu laptop
[04:50] <whaley> would the fact i'm using legacy drivers have anything to do with this?
[04:50] <wickedpuppy> youngcoder, termina ?
[04:50] <odie5533> tedor: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:50] <corvix> i think you have to alter xorg manually
[04:50] <hooligan> wickedpuppy, Im not sure, but there are 3 files in the deb which i extracted, control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz, and debian-binary
[04:50] <wickedpuppy> or terminal ?
[04:50] <tedor> again? :(
[04:50] <youngcoder> terminal
[04:50] <corvix> acording to the doc given by nvidia
[04:50] <manji> wickedpuppy: that didnt change anything, ubuntu still uses python2.4
[04:50] <MOSMarauder> Boah.. MythTV is like hell *G*
[04:50] <odie5533> I think? don't ask me, I'm stupid
[04:51] <sizzam> youngcoder:  gnome-terminal --working-directory=%f
[04:51] <endo> wicked i edited the xorg
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> hooligan, for .deb you use dpkg -i progname.deb
[04:51] <endo> but still nothing
[04:51] <aabot> grrr
[04:51] <manji> wickedpuppy: IE i want a program that needs 2.3, but ubuntu uses 2.4 default, so program can't install
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> manji, you sure the python is pointing to python2.3 ?
[04:51] <aabot> Amaranth, just paste the URL in here, please
[04:51] <Amaranth> aabot: is the server telling you anything when you try to pm me?
[04:51] <tedor> "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem"
[04:51] <youngcoder> sizzam, that is the command for the custom app launcher i assume?
[04:51] <ajmitch_> hooligan: why did you get a deb separately, instead of using synaptic to get gtk-gnutella from the repositories?
[04:51] <hooligan> wickedpuppy, so linux uses commands in the terminal to exec proggies?
[04:51] <tedor> "requested operation requires superuser privilege"
[04:51] <Amaranth> aabot: http://dev.realistanew.com/alacarte-0.8beta3.tar.gz
[04:51] <odie5533> What exactly is Xserver in realtion to Gnome?
[04:51] <manji> wickedpuppy: i changed /usr/bin/python to refer to python2.3 not python2.4
[04:51] <aabot> Amaranth, i'm identified and everything
[04:52] <hooligan> ajmitch_, Im uber noob, and I have no idea how to do anything on linux
[04:52] <sizzam> youngcoder:   that switch just starts you in your home folder,   gnome-terminal is the executable
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> manji, then python should use python 2.3
[04:52] <qmanman> !ati
[04:52] <ubotu> from memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:52] <ajmitch_> hooligan: it's by far the easier way to get it :)
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> hooligan, also got point and click
[04:52] <manji> wickedpuppy: well, is there a way to safely remove python2.4 from the system without getting rid of EVERY program that even touches it?
[04:52] <cius> anybody use a flash based mp3 player with breezy?
[04:53] <ajmitch_> manji: no
[04:53] <youngcoder> sizzam, woohoo thanks
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> manji, why you wanna remove ? your python should be 2.3 now ... pls check ls -l /usr/bin/python
[04:53] <ajmitch_> manji: a lot of stuff depends on python2.4 :)
[04:53] <odie5533> Why doesn't the standard install of Ubuntu running the gnome desktop install the package "gnome"? Seems a bit absurd
[04:53] <hooligan> ok i did the dpkg and it says
[04:53] <manji> wickedpuppy: i already have checked the symlink, and i just did it again, it is pointing to 2.3
[04:53] <hooligan> 'superuser privalges?
[04:53] <salkin> is anyone else having a problem getting to us.archive.ubuntu.com? I haven't been able to sync up all day.
[04:54] <ajmitch_> hooligan: use synaptic from the menu
[04:54] <Marko> Can someone help me get gaim to have sound?  I don't see an alsa option in gaim, just esd arts and command
[04:54] <Amaranth> odie5533: Because is a debian package that pulls in things ubuntu doesn't want in the default install
[04:54] <Amaranth> odie5533: like epiphany
[04:54] <wickedpuppy> manji, then python --version should be showing you 2.3
[04:54] <ajmitch_> wickedpuppy: that sounds like a recipe for things breaking
[04:54] <manji> wickedpuppy: lol yeah, the version is, but since 2.4 is still installed, ubuntu uses it as the dependency value, but my program must use 2.3
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> ajmitch_, huh ?
[04:55] <cius> salkin, I can connect to the repos fine
[04:55] <ajmitch_> manji: so use python2.3 rather than python
[04:55] <Shadowwlf> In doing a custom kernel, I wouldn't think would need parallel port drive support since don't plan in having external drives, and most are now USB anyways right?  (first time attempting a custom kernel lol)
[04:55] <odie5533> Is there a way to run both plain Ubuntu and Edeubuntu with a seperate like session? I'd like to try out edubuntu before I suggest it to my mother (a fourth grade school teacher with a couple old computers that have broken OS's)
[04:55] <hooligan> What section would the GTK1 be under on the left catagories?
[04:55] <sizzam> salkin:  the us.archive repos are working for me, i know they where experiencing heavy load earlier in the week
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> oh hmms .. why not call python2.3 explicitely ? like ajmitch_  says
[04:55] <salkin> cius: thanks. Well I guess it's sherlock time.
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> :P
[04:55] <ajmitch_> wickedpuppy: package python is installed, with version 2.4, but you're changing the symlink to something else - modules are installed in a versioned directory
[04:55] <alexandros> good night, does anyone know when the Xubuntu cd are going to be release?
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> ah i see
[04:55] <nicholaspaul> samba question : if i apt-get install samba do i get EVERYTHING i need, and do i have to 'run ' it?
[04:55] <ajmitch_> manji: does your program break with 2.4?
[04:55] <salkin> sizzam: thanks, I appreciate it
[04:56] <bender_> C-a
[04:56] <tedor> can i get a hand? :(
[04:56] <hooligan> ajmitch_, so is this gtk1-gnutella installed on my comp already i just need to like install install it?
[04:56] <nicholaspaul> ask away, atedor
[04:56] <manji> ajmitch_: not sure, apt-get wont install it, though, for that reason
[04:56] <sizzam> nicholaspaul:   see if this helps   http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver
[04:56] <ajmitch_> hooligan: no, it's in the package list, I can't recall the name of synaptic in the system menu :)
[04:57] <GTroy> nautilus cannot display burn:/// please select another viewer.  how do I fix this?
[04:57] <ajmitch_> manji: then the package needs fixed
[04:57] <tedor> well. i did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop once and when i came back i had to reboot. so i just tried again and it says
[04:57] <nicholaspaul> thx sizzam, i'll try that again :)
[04:57] <ajmitch_> manji: was it one in ubuntu?
[04:57] <tedor> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[04:57] <salkin> tedor: that is the error message you received?
[04:57] <ubuntu> tedor then run the dpkg --configure -a
[04:57] <ubuntu> the error message it's really clear
[04:57] <tedor> then it tells me i need to be a superuser :(
[04:58] <manji> ajmitch_: surprisingly, no. it is a third-party program
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> tedor, sudo
[04:58] <ubuntu> tedor yeah sudo
[04:58] <salkin> tedor: sudo
[04:58] <tedor> :( what's a sudo
[04:58] <ubuntu> man sud
[04:58] <ubuntu> ol
[04:58] <ubuntu> man sudo
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> !sudo
[04:58] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:58] <ajmitch_> manji: fun, so they need to update their package, I guess
[04:58] <sizzam> tedor:  i get that error whenever i interupt apt-get when its doing something.   usually just re-starting the command works for me
[04:59] <tedor> oh so it's like
[04:59] <tedor> pseudo superuser?
[04:59] <salkin> tedor: personally I use sudo -s to get a root shell and do things when there's more than one
[04:59] <ubuntu> yeah
[04:59] <odie5533> Are there any actual Ubuntu dev's here at the moment?
[04:59] <manji> ajmitch_: oh you know what, they are official software i think
[04:59] <ajmitch_> manji: the problem being that debian still has python 2.3 as the default version :)
[04:59] <aeon17x> sudo =  super user do
[04:59] <ajmitch_> manji: package name?
[04:59] <ubuntu> odie5533 #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel
[04:59] <salkin> tedor: but some people dislike that practice - ymmv
[04:59] <LaptopZZ> does anyone have a laptop with an intel  855GME
[04:59] <ajmitch_> odie5533: some might be hiding here
[04:59] <bender_> C-n
[04:59] <manji> ajmitch_: pylirc and mmpython both need 2.3
[05:00] <salkin> LaptopZZ: tell me how I would find out and I'll tell you. Thinkpad x31
[05:00] <tedor> well that looks like it did it. thanks
[05:00] <LaptopZZ> lspci
[05:00] <Hentai^XP> bettong_BOFH here?
[05:00] <ubuntu> np tedor
[05:00] <LaptopZZ> x31 might have a 900 series let me check
[05:00] <niels_> all: what's the deal with backports... i keep getting error messages when trying to install them...
[05:00] <ubuntu> niels_ what errorrs?
[05:00] <zbowling> if i download the xorg deb, copy the control files out for the debian package and stick them in a tarball for the new xorg undated the control files I could in theory just debuild it back up again right?
[05:00] <odie5533> ubuntu, I moreof just wanted to ask questions rather than join the dev team =/
[05:00] <ubuntu> zbowling right,
[05:00] <salkin> LaptopZZ: no, sorry.
[05:00] <zbowling> col
[05:00] <ajmitch_> odie5533: such as?
[05:00] <zbowling> cool*
[05:00] <LaptopZZ> thanks salkin
[05:01] <LaptopZZ> salkin: how is the battery life?
[05:01] <hooligan> Do I add downloads to Synaptic?
[05:01] <odie5533> ajmitch_, what program the developers use to code ubuntu and what main language they use ;)
[05:01] <hooligan> or what
[05:01] <ajmitch_> manji: right, neither are in breezy
[05:01] <ubuntu> odie5533 then ask in the ubuntu devel list don't you think?
[05:01] <niels_> ubuntu: nosuch file or directory
[05:01] <manji> ajmitch_: oh, okay then
[05:01] <ajmitch_> odie5533: ubuntu is a collection of thousands of packages :)
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> hooligan, nope ... synaptic is download + install ... think of it that way
[05:01] <zbowling> ubuntu: I really don't want to break any of the deps but i need support for my ati card which has only been added to the latest version of xorg
[05:01] <salkin> LaptopZZ: I don't know actually. :) I notice it goes down faster under linux but then I leave the cpu all the way up. I just go from plug to plug mostly.
[05:01] <odie5533> ajmitch_, but they must have coded something right?
[05:02] <LaptopZZ> salkin: is the screen ok, 1024 is kinda small
[05:02] <corvix> each in its oen lang i guess
[05:02] <ubuntu> zbowling do apt-cache search xorg
[05:02] <ajmitch_> odie5533: sure, plenty of packages are coded
[05:02] <ubuntu> and see what you get
[05:02] <ajmitch_> odie5533: some are python, others C, or shell
[05:02] <ajmitch_> depends on their functionality
[05:02] <odie5533> ajmitch_, what program do they mainly use to code in?
[05:02] <hooligan> wickedpuppy,  do you know what check boxes to apply that will filter in gtk1?
[05:02] <corvix> odie ... as i guesed ... each in its own format
[05:02] <salkin> LaptopZZ: it is small. My last one was an a21p - 1450x1050 or something. This is much much smaller. OTOH I have 25 virtual desktops.
[05:03] <zbowling> ubuntu: plently :-P
[05:03] <ajmitch_> odie5533: whatever the developers are comfortable with :)
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> eh odie5533 are you trying to look for one true language + best IDE ?
[05:03] <theblue> Can anyone tell me how to, on the command line, force Ubuntu to connect to one, and only one, 802.11b access point, selected by SSID?
[05:03] <ubuntu> zbowling try looking there (:
[05:03] <johnsie2k> Is there any way to have an Explorer style address box in File browser.... ya know like where I could type in the path i wanna go to?
[05:03] <ajmitch_> manji: annoyingly they don't supply source debian packages on their site (at least for pylirc)
[05:03] <theblue> johnsie2k: Konqueror does that.
[05:03] <zbowling> ubuntu: yeah, the version is the last stable, the new xorg 7 is what I need
[05:03] <LaptopZZ> salkin:  1400x1050, hahah 25?? crazy fair enough. thank you
[05:03] <hooligan> wickedpuppy,  nvm i got it
[05:03] <odie5533> wickedpuppy, not quite. More of what is a widely used IDE for a so to speak professional coder
[05:03] <corvix> wickedpup: whoch there isnt ;-) ... the ueberlang ;-)
[05:03] <johnsie2k> yeah but it aint the default with gnome
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, emacs or vim
[05:03] <theblue> johnsie2k: But Gnome uses Nautilus.  KDE uses Konqueror.
[05:04] <salkin> LaptopZZ: np, glad to
[05:04] <odie5533> but which? and why?
[05:04] <theblue> johnsie2k: If you have KDE installed, you can just type "konqueror" into the run dialogue on either GNOME or KDE.
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, if i say which is better emacs or vi , there will be flamewar here
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> lol
[05:04] <blunted> !fstab
[05:04] <ubotu> I heard fstab is /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[05:04] <ajmitch_> odie5533: just try them, see what you like & works best for you
[05:04] <zbowling> debian: http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php all the drivers stopped being worked on in standalone and are now only being worked on in the integration project
[05:04] <manji> odie5533: Eclipse some consider to be a great FOSS IDE for professionals
[05:04] <zbowling> err ubuntu:
[05:04] <corvix> odie ... for userapplications eclipse is widely used .. but thats based on java ...
[05:04] <zbowling> hehe
[05:04] <odie5533> ajmitch_, I did. They both seem impossible to learn and I'd rather not learn two :(
[05:04] <sizzam> johnsie2k:   Applications > System Tools > Configuration Editor -------  apps/nautilus/preferences,  put a check next to: start with location bar
[05:04] <hooligan> Where does synoptic install the programs to? Like it aint on desktop
[05:05] <odie5533> corvix, define user acpplications
[05:05] <johnsie2k> thanks sizza
[05:05] <odie5533> *applications
[05:05] <niels_> ubuntu:error reads no file or directory found
[05:05] <hooligan> nvm
[05:05] <sizzam> np
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> hooligan, /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin ... depends ...
[05:05] <ubuntu> hooligan whereis application
[05:05] <ajmitch_> wickedpuppy: never in /usr/local, I hope
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> you don't need to know where is it ... just use it
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> oh yah ... lol sorry
[05:05] <corvix> odie nice fancy user interface ;-)
[05:05] <whaley> is there a quick way to kill X completely without ctrl+alt+f1 and then sudo kill Xorg?
[05:05] <odie5533> wickedpuppy, which do you use yourself vi or emacs?
[05:05] <ajmitch_> any packager that touched /usr/local should be 'spoken to' :)
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, i am comfortable in both :P vi is default is emacs got language modes ...
[05:05] <odie5533> corvix: Does Eclipse allow you code GUI's from within it?
[05:06] <theblue> hooligan: Synaptic installs the programs to wherever they need to be installed.  Most of them can be found in the Gnome menu, and if not there, in the Debian submenu.  All applications on your system that are recognized by Synaptic are in your Debian submenu.
[05:06] <corvix> odie .. i prefer cosole as well .. nut that just refers to 1% of the ppl ... if at all
[05:06] <corvix> it does
[05:06] <manji> odie5533: quite easily :)
[05:06] <corvix> if you use eclipse 3.1 with VE (Vidual Editor)
[05:06] <sizzam> whaley:  how about  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:06] <ajmitch_> theblue: debian menu is a bit of a mess, and only shows up if you have the right menu installed, and the app has a menu entry
[05:06] <odie5533> What library does it use? Is it corssplatform compatible? What languages does it code in?
[05:07] <ubuntu> odie5533 who?
[05:07] <odie5533> anyone that knows about Eclipse =P
[05:07] <whaley> sizzam, if I run that from the shell (ctrl+alt+f1) it will kill the X instance?
[05:07] <manji> odie5533: in every language there is a plugin for, it is made for everything
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, eclipse.org
[05:07] <johnsie2k> hmmm that start with location bar this was already ticked...
[05:07] <niels_> ubuntu: are you still there?
[05:07] <wulfy814> I'm trying to install breezy on a sata software raid1 but the partitioner
[05:07] <corvix> eclipse VE can be used with SWT, swing and awt
[05:07] <theblue> ajmitch_: But for the most part, most (but not all) apps will be in there.
[05:07] <wulfy814> keeps telling me that I need to reboot first
[05:07] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: It's also a PITA to edit since it puts it's .directory and .desktop files in a different location
[05:07] <sizzam> whaley:  you can save all your work and run it from gnome-terminal.   it will kill x and restart it
[05:07] <whaley> manji odie5533: in every language there is a plugin for, it is made for everything <---- there is a great plugin for python
[05:07] <seismicmike> hmmm
[05:07] <wulfy814> well, it actually says it can't recognize the RAID or something
[05:07] <seismicmike> just installed KDE for ubuntu
[05:07] <seismicmike> it's nice
[05:07] <whaley> sizzam, i need to kill x and keep it killed
[05:07] <johnsie2k> hmmm that start with location bar this was already ticked...
[05:07] <seismicmike> i was looing at kubuntu
[05:07] <niels_> ubuntu: if so, error reads no file or directory found
[05:07] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: lots of fun copying <AppDir> and <DirectoryDir> tags around when moving things
[05:07] <odie5533> Can I code GTK+ GUI's in eclipse?
[05:07] <corvix> odie ... PM?
[05:08] <ajmitch_> Amaranth: hah, fun
[05:08] <seismicmike> but i didn't want to give up all my settings
[05:08] <manji> odie5533: not sure, but for that glade works great
[05:08] <seismicmike> but now i have KDE :)
[05:08] <corvix> odie join #corvix
[05:08] <ajmitch_> Amaranth: I still haven't written menu entries for my packages ;)
[05:08] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: naughty
[05:08] <ajmitch_> Amaranth: I know
[05:08] <sizzam> whaley:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  will probably do that, but i haven't tried it
[05:08] <theblue> Can anyone tell me how to, on the command line, force Ubuntu to connect to one, and only one, 802.11b access point, selected by SSID?
[05:08] <ajmitch_> Amaranth: I've only had them for about 2-3 years
[05:08] <wulfy814> is there a proceedure somewhere to install on RAID 1
[05:08] <whaley> sizzam, will give that a shot, thanks :)
[05:08] <crimsun> theblue: sudo iwconfig <iface> essid <essid>
[05:09] <theblue> Ok, thanks, crimsun.
[05:09] <strannik> could somebody help me install the driver for my integrated Intel 82801DB-ICH4 on the chip C-Media Electronics CMI9739
[05:09] <zbowling> ubuntu: adding support for xgl at the sametime as making a beta deb for xorg 7
[05:09] <crimsun> strannik: cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:10] <zbowling> ubuntu: that would be awesome
[05:10] <Blair> who's "NickServ"?
[05:10] <blunted> i am
[05:10] <strannik> crimson: ok it gave me this:
[05:10] <odie5533> Blair: The man of mystery
[05:10] <MPC> can someone help me with a USB memory drive, which works with Ubuntu but is no long recognized by XP?
[05:10] <Blair> and why is it phishing for passwords?
[05:10] <strannik> 0 [I82801DBICH4   ] : ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
[05:10] <strannik>                      Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with CMI9739 at 0xee081000, irq 17
[05:10] <ubuntu>  Nickname Services
[05:10] <johnsie2k> Why do 3d games run very slowly under ubuntu?
[05:11] <Blair> you think i'm typing my password into an IRC input line?
[05:11] <Blair> very funny
[05:11] <odie5533> johnsie2, because you don't have nvidia drivers installed
[05:11] <kevogod> johnsie2, Because you do not have a 3D capable driver installed for your card.
[05:11] <sizzam> Blair:  NickServ is the electronic bouncer of this party
[05:11] <johnsie2k> ah
[05:11] <johnsie2k> !nvidia
[05:11] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:11] <hooligan> Can I play steam games on ubuntu?
[05:11] <hooligan> Or is it just for steam servers
[05:12] <Blair> a nice secure-login server would be more reasonable and less of a hole
[05:12] <blunted> Blair who's "NickServ"?
[05:12] <blunted> blunted i am
[05:12] <blunted> strannik crimson: ok it gave me this:
[05:12] <blunted> odie5533 Blair: The man of mystery
[05:12] <blunted> Blair and why is it phishing for passwords? <<< HAHA
[05:12] <blunted> moron
[05:12] <sizzam> johnsie2k:  check out this link http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[05:12] <wulfy814> ok, no RAID1 users?
[05:12] <sizzam> johnsie2k:  those instructions will make sure you have 3d acceleration going for your nvidia card
[05:12] <kevogod> Well, be cautious. NickServ on some IRC networks does not exist as a service and can actually be a user.
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> Blair, if you don't trust nickserv ... how you registered ya nick here ?
[05:12] <Blair> i trust nothing on any irc server
[05:12] <sizzam> johnsie2k:  just back everything up before you make changes,   xorg problems can be a pain to troubleshoot
[05:13] <Blair> don't remember how reg went for this
[05:13] <wickedpuppy> lol
[05:13] <Blair> freenode?
[05:13] <Blair> may have done it eons ago
[05:13] <wickedpuppy> Blair, on freenode you reg nick with nickserv
[05:13] <kevogod> OpenProjects
[05:13] <hemppa> what player should i use to view windows media stream?
[05:13] <Blair> well tell nickserv i'm me
[05:13] <niels_> all: cannot install backports... error message no file or directory found...
[05:13] <sizzam> Blair:  if you're using X-Chat,  you can highlight this server, click Edit, and actually put your NickServ password in there so it will automatically identify you
[05:13] <Blair> but it needs to register with me before i believe it's who it says it is
[05:14] <Blair> chatzilla, not x-chat
[05:14] <sizzam> k
[05:14] <johnsie2k> good... the wiki instructions were written in a retarded way
[05:14] <strannik> the problem is the following: i'm getting sound (like from xmms) and amorok, but I am not able to change the volume
[05:14] <Blair> my ubunti don't have networks so i'm on a windose machine now
[05:14] <strannik> it just sounds on the maximum..and thats all
[05:15] <aeon17x> strannik: double-click on the volume icon, and see if it changes when you adjust the PCM or PC speaker.
[05:15] <Blair> okay...anyway...stupid question...why isn't a compiler preinstalled with ubuntu?
[05:16] <ajmitch_> Blair: because most users won't use a compiler
[05:16] <aeon17x> strannik: Then right-click the volume control icon and select the device you want to adjust (sometimes Ubuntu doesn't detect which hardware is it supposed to adjust).
[05:16] <lsald> Blair, it is a desktop distro to start, not a developers distro
[05:16] <sizzam> Blair:  i think they did that to keep the build as light as possible,   you can apt-get install build-essential to get all that good stuff
[05:16] <Amaranth> Blair: It's a security risk.
[05:16] <ajmitch_> Blair: and it's easy enough to get, as sizzam says :)
[05:16] <Amaranth> Blair: And it's too big to fit on the CD.
[05:16] <Blair> i'm a security risk, according to nickserv
[05:16] <sizzam> ha
[05:16] <aeon17x> Blair: you don't want $random_hacker to compile stuff right on your own computer, right? :)
[05:17] <Pickle_Weasel> whenever i run a java-based program, such as azureus or limewire, my system becomes sluggish and the mouse lags, anyone know why or how to fix it?
[05:17] <Blair> i buy the part about the CD...the .iso was about 617 MB...only a few MB to spare on the average disc
[05:17] <odie5533> Does python come standard with Ubuntu?
[05:17] <niels_> can anyone help me with my backport problems?
[05:17] <Blair> $random_hacker's not getting on my own computer
[05:17] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: it's easily available, and odds are anyone who wants a compiler has a net connection
[05:17] <Blair> but it's unix...and unix comes with cc...
[05:17] <blunted> how do i make a list of all the files in a directory and then print it to a file
[05:17] <HrdwrBoB> it's a fair assumption
[05:17] <lightstar> hi can anyone help me with an issue with X
[05:17] <Xenguy> odie5533: the ubu developers seem to be python fans :-)
[05:17] <Blair> <---don't have a net connection but want a compiler
[05:17] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: traditional unix comes with a cc
[05:17] <aeon17x> odie5533: you have to install it, I guess.
[05:17] <sizzam> Blair:  he will when NickServ punches a hole for him
[05:18] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: ubuntu is an operating system for people to use
[05:18] <Blair> siz wins the gagfest
[05:18] <nicholaspaul> whats the diff between sshd and ssh?
[05:18] <HrdwrBoB> it's not 'unix'
[05:18] <Xirdneh> hi there... anyone there can help me upgradeing from HOARY GNOME to BREEZY KDE?... just dont know if i can do it directly or first upgrade to breezy GNOME and then to KDE?
[05:18] <Blair> this people uses cc
[05:18] <Blair> gnu's not unix
[05:18] <Amaranth> nicholaspaul: One is the client, one is the server.
[05:18] <HrdwrBoB> nicholaspaul: sshd is for people to login, ssh is to log in to other computers
[05:18] <scarla> hi can anyone help me with an issue with my windows partition
[05:18] <blunted> nicholaspaul, sshd is the server and ssh is the client
[05:18] <Xirdneh> or do I just download the meta fle of KDE and follow the instructions?
[05:18] <khermans> is there a way to tell is a media disc is a DVD or CD from Linux?
[05:18] <nicholaspaul> aaah. thc guys:)
[05:18] <Xenguy> nicholaspaul: client server
[05:18] <aeon17x> Xirdneh: you have to go through Breezy Gnome first.
[05:18] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: 'users' don't use a compiler
[05:18] <Blair> grover...i mind-melded with my neighbor's 802.11
[05:18] <HrdwrBoB> 'developers' use a compiler
[05:18] <niels_> backports anyone
[05:18] <niels_> baclports anyone
[05:18] <nicholaspaul> so if i cant login, which would be the problem? i'm having intranet trouble...
[05:18] <Blair> so i get a promotion, bob?
[05:19] <odie5533> What is python useful for?
[05:19] <Blair> cool
[05:19] <aeon17x> niels_: backports don't exist yet for Breezy.
[05:19] <JT_BAK> Hi there, anybody have any advice on getting ubuntu to work with WPA-PSK (TKIP) wireless security?  TIA...
[05:19] <sizzam> a lot of installers need compilers too
[05:19] <Blair> tired of making only $60/hr
[05:19] <HrdwrBoB> odie5533: a whole lot of stuff.
[05:19] <odie5533> Can you name some examples?
[05:19] <Xirdneh> aeon17x ok thanx man... and then how do I change to KDE?... kind of newbi here :S
[05:19] <Blair> pythons eat rats
[05:19] <Xenguy> odie5533: object-oriented scripting language (perl does some similar things)
[05:19] <Blair> installers need compilers
[05:19] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: if you don't have a network connection at some point in time to install the compiler
[05:19] <niels_> so why are they mentioned in the wiki guide?
[05:19] <HrdwrBoB> to be honest, nobody really cares
[05:19] <HrdwrBoB> the fact is that net connectios are effectively ubiquitous
[05:19] <Amaranth> niels_: They don't exist for breezy yet because there is nothing to backport.
[05:20] <Blair> my "network" consists of downloading on a pc with a burninator and walking the disc over to the ubuntu machine
[05:20] <aeon17x> Xirdneh: activate universe in the repositories first, then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.
[05:20] <Blair> "never underestimate the bandwidth of a station full of mag-tapes barrelling down the freeway"
[05:20] <Amaranth> aeon17x: kubuntu-desktop and all dependencies are in main
[05:20] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: so either do that
[05:20] <Blair> station wagon, that is
[05:20] <Xirdneh> aeon17x thanx a lot man.... let me try lets hope i go to sleep early this night :p
[05:20] <HrdwrBoB> or spend $SFA on network gear
[05:20] <Bahamut> hola
[05:20] <Bahamut> >s
[05:20] <aeon17x> Amaranth: they used to be in universe >_>
[05:20] <Bahamut> :S
[05:20] <Blair> i have the network gear, but i don't want to fight with 802 on those boxen just yet
[05:20] <sizzam> Xirdneh:  you might be surprised, if you're on a broadband connection might take 10 minutes
[05:20] <hooligan> is there like an mp3 codec i need to dl to play mp3's?
[05:20] <Blair> don't trust the stability of the install yet
[05:21] <Blair> can live with sneakernet for now
[05:21] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: and you can't just plug it in to install it?
[05:21] <cmd_wyvern> how does one go about getting back the workspaces?
[05:21] <aeon17x> Xirdneh: if you're on broadband, you should get everything done in an hour or two.
[05:21] <HrdwrBoB> you have no network cables?
[05:21] <Bahamut> hi
[05:21] <Blair> does PnP work on ubuntu that good?
[05:21] <Blair> even for a PCMCIA card?
[05:21] <Bahamut> can hel me
[05:21] <Bahamut> can help me
[05:21] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: yes
[05:21] <odie5533> If I code a GUI program in Python, and user needs to have Python right?
[05:21] <sizzam> cmd_wyvern:  you mean the workspace switcher thing in the taskbar?
[05:21] <aeon17x> Bahamut: ask away
[05:21] <Xirdneh> aeon17x, sizzam, kewl i think it will be fast... im in 256Kbps ... not that much but is ok
[05:21] <ajmitch_> odie5533: yes, python is interpreted
[05:21] <Blair> k...i'll take your word for it, but if you're a w4r3zkiddie trying to steer me wrong i'll come back and call you names
[05:21] <MOSMarauder> question: scan (tv channel scan) stops with the following message: SE8  (154.25 MHz): *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x080699e8 ***
[05:21] <MOSMarauder> why ?
[05:22] <geno_> How can I access hidden folders?
[05:22] <cmd_wyvern> yes. all of a sudden [after installing some updates]  the four disappeared and I only have one now
[05:22] <odie5533> ajmitch_, then what is it useful for?
[05:22] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: do I sound like a warez kiddie?
[05:22] <Bahamut> I'm from chile
[05:22] <aeon17x> geno_: append a dot (.) before the name of the folder
[05:22] <ajmitch_> odie5533: writing programs :P
[05:22] <sizzam> geno_ :  in nautilus, click View, then Show Hidden Files
[05:22] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: I have two laptops running ubuntu, as well as several desktops and servers
[05:22] <odie5533> isn't any native language better though since the user doesn't need python?
[05:22] <hooligan> wat do i need to get to play mp3's?
[05:22] <niels_> Amaranth: so why are they in my repositories listings?
[05:22] <ajmitch_> odie5533: consider that python is installed by default on ubuntu, for example
[05:22] <Blair> bob...warezkiddies sound like you and me
[05:22] <sizzam> geno_ :  or, in a terminal, try  ls -altr
[05:23] <Blair> they're everywhere
[05:23] <Blair> them and republicans
[05:23] <MOSMarauder> ahem hallo?
[05:23] <ajmitch_> odie5533: and is otherwise easy to install on other systems
[05:23] <Blair> can't shake 'em
[05:23] <odie5533> ajmitch_, do most Linux-based OS's install it by default?
[05:23] <Amaranth> Blair: ...
[05:23] <Amaranth> niels_: *shrug*
[05:23] <spencerk> i get this error message when doing my first 'make user'. anyone know what i should do?
[05:23] <odie5533> ajmitch_, what does Ubuntu for instance mainly use Python for?
[05:23] <Amaranth> niels_: they don't do anything right now
[05:23] <ajmitch_> odie5533: many do, I believe redhat's installer is in python
[05:23] <Bahamut> please help me with linux
[05:23] <spencerk> grep: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory
[05:23] <spencerk> /bin/sh: gcc: command not found
[05:23] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: I'm a system administrator and I've been using ubuntu since before it had a name
[05:23] <Amaranth> odie5533: _everything_
[05:23] <strannik> ok, using kmix to ajust sound.
[05:23] <aeon17x> odie5533: gDesklets
[05:23] <HrdwrBoB> spencerk: you need build-essentual
[05:23] <HrdwrBoB> spencerk: you need build-essential
[05:23] <MOSMarauder> spencerk: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[05:23] <strannik> when i open it, i cannot regulate the volume for pcm.
[05:23] <MOSMarauder> spencerk: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:23] <MOSMarauder> w/o s
[05:23] <spencerk> thank you everyone
[05:23] <Amaranth> HrdwrBoB: back when it was no name distro?
[05:24] <strannik> then when i try to mute pcm, kmix crashes
[05:24] <HrdwrBoB> spencerk: in any case, what are you trying to do
[05:24] <cmd_wyvern> HOOLIGAN: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:24] <Blair> bob...i used to be a sysadmin and i've been using cc since before linus torvalds had a name
[05:24] <HrdwrBoB> Amaranth: yep, no-name-yet
[05:24] <aeon17x> strannik: try the other controls.
[05:24] <odie5533> How powerful is Python in comparisson to say... C?
[05:24] <Amaranth> no, no-name-yet
[05:24] <ajmitch_> Amaranth: I got started late, it took me a bit longer to switch from my nice comfy sid box :)
[05:24] <geno_> I want to access the files in the normal folder navigator
[05:24] <ajmitch_> odie5533: what do you mean, how powerful?
[05:24] <Blair> c is powerful...python is interpreted
[05:24] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: yes, and amazingly, OSes have moved on from *requiring* a compiler on an end user based distro
[05:24] <aeon17x> odie5533: They say it's slightly easier to program with, but it's a lot slower than C.
[05:24] <Amaranth> HrdwrBoB: that domain still exists, it's the changelogs server/vhost or whatever
[05:24] <sizzam> odie5533:  python would take C in the 2nd minute of the 6th round
[05:24] <odie5533> ajmitch_, Is python able to accomplish anything C would?
[05:24] <ajmitch_> odie5533: you can achieve just as much in python for writing applications
[05:24] <HrdwrBoB> Amaranth: yeah
[05:24] <spencerk> HrdwrBoB,  i think that'l do it, i assumed it came default installed. i am just playing with gdesklets
[05:24] <Blair> first thing i try to install is going to want to compile itself...
[05:25] <ajmitch_> I don't think you'd be writing a kernel in python, though :)
[05:25] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: I was on windows until late october
[05:25] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: then you're installing wrong
[05:25] <ajmitch_> Amaranth: my condolences
[05:25] <strannik> aeon17x: they do not do anything
[05:25] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: ubuntu was the first distro i stuck with longer than a week
[05:25] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: most anything you need is compiled for you
[05:25] <odie5533> ajmitch_, Then what is python meant to be used for?
[05:25] <HrdwrBoB> if you want to compile everything obsessively, use gentoo
[05:25] <Blair> got a current binary distro of openoffice.org 2.0.0 for me?
[05:25] <geno_> I see it now
[05:25] <sizzam> Amaranth:  im the same way,   ubuntuforums.org and ubuntuguide.org made all the difference for me
[05:25] <ajmitch_> odie5533: writing programs, do what you want with it
[05:25] <geno_> sizzam: Thanks.
[05:25] <hooligan> cmd_wyvern,  how do i disable 'debian-marillat'
[05:25] <sizzam> geno_  no problem
[05:25] <Amaranth> sizzam: I don't even think those existed when I started.
[05:26] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: yes
[05:26] <strannik> aeon17x: in xmms in the options i am using out put plugin: ALSA 1.2.10 (libALSA.so)
[05:26] <Amaranth> sproingie: numpy
[05:26] <ajmitch_> Amaranth: I never really left debian, I just dist-upgraded to ubuntu ;)
[05:26] <Blair> that'll save me a step
[05:26] <Amaranth> sproingie: that and psyco help much
[05:26] <Blair> where's it at?
[05:26] <odie5533> ajmitch_, Is the python interperater packaged with Linux written in C?
[05:26] <sproingie> Amaranth: gladly, but it's not very vectorized.  psyco did jack
[05:26] <cmd_wyvern> hooligan: not sure. i'm somewhat of a newb here too, but I would assume you could uninstall the package in synaptic
[05:26] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: in the repositories
[05:26] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: with all of the other software :)
[05:26] <ajmitch_> odie5533: yes..
[05:26] <Blair> whose repositories?
[05:26] <aeon17x> strannik: I'm using the OSS output plugin
[05:26] <Blair> ubuntu's?
[05:26] <odie5533> ajmitch_, What is... C written in?
[05:26] <aeon17x> strannik: maybe you need more plugins?
[05:26] <Amaranth> sproingie: doesn't really help my app either, seeing how it's I/O bound
[05:26] <Blair> 2.0.0? which was released only today
[05:26] <ajmitch_> odie5533: gcc is written in C
[05:27] <Amaranth> odie5533: gcc is written in C
[05:27] <hooligan> How do I disable debian-marillat, before installing win32 codecs?
[05:27] <strannik> ok, let me try it
[05:27] <mattuf> hi everyone - i've been having a problem with grub - all of a sudden xp won't load anymore (filesystem unknown).  can anybody help me?
[05:27] <odie5533> whats gcc do?
[05:27] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: yes
[05:27] <strannik> still nothing...
[05:27] <Blair> cc is written in C and uses magic to encode \n where none existed before
[05:27] <sproingie> odie5533: it's a C compiler
[05:27] <ajmitch_> odie5533: compiles C code :P
[05:27] <aeon17x> mattuf: what is your XP filesystem?
[05:27] <HrdwrBoB> Blair: it has a *recent* oo2 build
[05:27] <odie5533> Whats its output written in?
[05:27] <Blair> and according to dennis ritchie cc is a massive security hole
[05:27] <ajmitch_> odie5533: so yes, people use gcc to compile gcc
[05:27] <HrdwrBoB> and if you have some patience, there will be a backport
[05:27] <niels_> amaranth: it gives the error message about backports when trying to install realplayer10gold
[05:27] <strannik> aeon17x, when i pull the volume regulater all the way down, it mutes
[05:28] <mattuf> aeon17x:  NTFS - is that what you mean?
[05:28] <aeon17x> strannik: what happens when it's all the way up?
[05:28] <Blair> because he could have compiled it with secret code to embed secret code in every program it compiles
[05:28] <ajmitch_> odie5533: executable code.. it's what the cpu runs
[05:28] <aeon17x> mattuf: yeah... Ubuntu didn't detect it properly?
[05:28] <darknuala> hey is it possible to customize the live cd like you can the knoppix cd?
[05:28] <corvix> odie: i dont think its about what some output is written in ,,, its about the concept
[05:28] <odie5533> ajmitch_, how can you compile gcc in gcc? How could they add anything to it then?
[05:28] <strannik> maximum volume, the same when it is half the way....or any way exept all the way down
[05:28] <Amaranth> Blair: Sure, there is no way of knowing.
[05:28] <hooligan> How do I disable debian-marillat, before installing win32 codecs?
[05:28] <Blair> awrighty then....someone tell NickServ i'm going to go inspect every line of its code and i'll be back if i find anything funny in there
[05:28] <odie5533> ajmitch_, Is windows asm different than Linux asm?
[05:28] <aeon17x> strannik: so it's all or nothing
[05:28] <Blair> out-tee
[05:29] <aeon17x> strannik: I think one of the controls regulate the volume.
[05:29] <Pickle_Weasel> anyone with access to ubotu around?
[05:29] <strannik> aeon17x: yup
[05:29] <mattuf> aeon17x: things have been working fine for over six months now .. all of a sudden today when i go to xp from GRUB, it gives me "filesystem unknown". luckily i can get into ubuntu, and i can even mount the xp partition from ubuntu and access my files
[05:29] <Amaranth> hooligan: in synaptic you can edit repositories, i can't remember which menu it's under
[05:29] <aeon17x> strannik: depends on your sound card, of course.
[05:29] <ajmitch_> odie5533: nope
[05:29] <strannik> aeon17x, going to check in kmix again
[05:29] <odie5533> ajmitch_, so will all windows exe files run on linux and vice versa?
[05:29] <strannik> in kmix i cant even drag the regulator
[05:29] <hooligan> Amaranth, so if i just dl the win32 codecs right now, without doing shit to my comp, it will get screwed up right?
[05:29] <ajmitch_> odie5533: certainly not
[05:29] <strannik> it just stays glued at the maximum...
[05:29] <odie5533> ajmitch_, and why is that
[05:29] <frank23> odie5533: no!
[05:29] <aeon17x> odie5533: not all, but a good number can be run on WINE.
[05:30] <Amaranth> hooligan: I don't know.
[05:30] <Pickle_Weasel> mattuf, do you have both XP and ubuntu on the same hard drive? or separate?
[05:30] <cevizoglu> can someone recommend me a command-line calculator?
[05:30] <ajmitch_> odie5533: because there's far more to a program than the language it's written in
[05:30] <mattuf> pickle_weasel: they are on the same hd
[05:30] <arbeck> okay, I was running 5.04 no problems, but when I moved to 5.10 my sound stopped working... i did a fresh install... any ideas?
[05:30] <Amaranth> hooligan: I don't have w32codecs, see how it's illegal to use, distribute, have, etc.
[05:30] <Xenguy> Celelibi: bc
[05:30] <Pickle_Weasel> i see =\
[05:30] <sproingie> cevizoglu: bc
[05:30] <corvix> odie .. like most lanngs today ... depemnda on what api is usable
[05:30] <hooligan> Amaranth, so you convert all the mp3's you download to the oddvid or watever it is
[05:30] <Xenguy> cevizoglu: bc or genius
[05:30] <corvix> but dont tell me tell me thw in32 api wqs very usable
[05:30] <odie5533> Can't you just copy over the core files of windows to linux, then just use those for the exe file?
[05:30] <cevizoglu> sproingie, bc sucks. it can't even divide 5.0 by 4.3
[05:30] <cmd_wyvern> hooligan: why do you need them>
[05:31] <aeon17x> odie5533: Nope.
[05:31] <odie5533> And why is that
[05:31] <Amaranth> hooligan: You don't need w32codecs for mp3.
[05:31] <hooligan> cmd_wyvern, To play my mp3 music files im downloading..
[05:31] <Amaranth> !mp3
[05:31] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[05:31] <Pickle_Weasel> dual booting is much easier when you have two hard drives, then you can bypass GRUB alltogether and make a hardware switch, like i did http://www.linweasel.co.nr/switch.jpg
[05:31] <arbeck> I have an nvidia nforce2 motherboard and it looks like everything is detected
[05:31] <cmd_wyvern> yeha, gave him that link already
[05:31] <sproingie> cevizoglu: yes it does, you just have to know how to use it
[05:31] <hooligan> Amaranth, It said it is like an unknown or unsupported file type when i try to play it
[05:31] <ajmitch_> odie5533: yes, it's called installing windows
[05:31] <aeon17x> odie5533: Because Windows and Linux binaries aren't compatible. Not directly anyway.
[05:31] <salkin> to anyone following along at home, us.archive.ubuntu.com didn't work - removing the "us." from all the sources restored normal function. Maybe just a burp somewhere - I've tracked breezy for a few months now with "us."
[05:31] <mattuf> pickle_weasel: yeah, i am somewhat limited though on my laptop
[05:31] <Amaranth> hooligan: read what ubotu just said
[05:32] <strannik> aeon17x, any ideas on what i can do to make the sound work properly?
[05:32] <odie5533> What is the linux kernel written in?
[05:32] <cmd_wyvern> hooligan: because by default ubuntu does not include the mp3 playback capabilities
[05:32] <cevizoglu> sproingie, is genius in the repositories?
[05:32] <Amaranth> hooligan: or just enable multiverse and install gsteamer-plugins-multiverse
[05:32] <cmd_wyvern> not free
[05:32] <salkin> odie5533: c
[05:32] <ajmitch_> odie5533: otherwise you use wine, which is a fairly complete effort to implement the windows APIs to let you run windows programs
[05:32] <Pickle_Weasel> mattuf, ahh, i hear ubuntu doesn't play nice with laptops
[05:32] <grover> running it on my laptop now
[05:32] <hooligan> Amaranth,  by installing what you just said, will i be able to play mp3?
[05:32] <odie5533> How can you write a kernel in C if it needs to do such low level work
[05:32] <aeon17x> strannik: try the forums.
[05:32] <Amaranth> hooligan: in rhythmbox, yes
[05:32] <sizzam> Pickle_Weasel - breezy is supposed to be laptop friendly (compared to hoary)
[05:32] <corvix> i mean thats exactly what wine is implementing ...
[05:32] <aeon17x> strannik: sorry I can't help you much more. =/
[05:32] <ajmitch_> odie5533: because that's why C is for
[05:33] <Pickle_Weasel> i se
[05:33] <salkin> odie5533: do you know anything about C?
[05:33] <Pickle_Weasel> see, rather
[05:33] <niels_> all: trying to install realplayer... gives me error message about backports... what is the deal?????????
[05:33] <cevizoglu> hmmm... maybe I'll just build calc and risk breaking my system then
[05:33] <corvix> a win lib under lin
[05:33] <mattuf> pickle_weasel: yeah.. i thought things were going to go just fine until now -  i hadn't even used ubuntu in weeks and then boom- i actually suspect it was xp doing something bad
[05:33] <salkin> odie5533: C was originally used to write an OS
[05:33] <odie5533> salkin, not a thing about the internals, nope
[05:33] <Amaranth> niels_: What error?
[05:33] <grover> odie5533: there is some asm too
[05:33] <sproingie> odie5533: C is made for low level work.  in fact, C was specifically made to write unix
[05:33] <aeon17x> strannik: you could also research how to configure ALSA.
[05:33] <corvix> which is quite complicated as there are no sources available
[05:33] <salkin> odie5533: besides they also use inline assembler for when special magic must be done
[05:33] <strannik> aeon17x, thank you for your effort...
[05:33] <aeon17x> niels_: the package from the Real website works beautifully, I suggest you get that one.
[05:33] <geno_> How can I add themes to GNOME?
[05:33] <cevizoglu> if I have to "learn" to how divide 5.0 by 4.3, it's obvious a piece of junk
[05:34] <aeon17x> strannik: no problem, good luck
[05:34] <sproingie> cevizoglu: scale = 20
[05:34] <odie5533> salkin: C is in ASM. And C translates to the ASM. The ASM is then run by the CPU. Right?
[05:34] <slyjab> i can't get the real package to startup
[05:34] <salkin> odie5533: no
[05:34] <aeon17x> geno_: download the theme and open it from the Ubuntu Theme manager.
[05:34] <ajmitch_> odie5533: C translates to machine code, yes
[05:34] <sizzam> geno_:  System  > Prefs > Themes,   after you download the theme (usually a tarball), click Install Theme and navigate to that tarball
[05:34] <aeon17x> yeah, Install Theme
[05:34] <geno_> Thanks.
[05:34] <ajmitch_> odie5533: ASM is a way of writing something very much closer to machine code
[05:34] <odie5533> salkin, whered I go wrong
[05:34] <salkin> odie5533: you write a small initial c compiler in assembler say, if you have no c compiler
[05:35] <sproingie> cevizoglu: you could also pull up a python repl, it makes a reasonable calculator
[05:35] <sizzam> geno_  check out gnome-look.org for a good collection of themes
[05:35] <salkin> odie5533: you use this compiler to compile your real compiler, written in c, which is written in this subset
[05:35] <darknuala> anybody here have problems with gdesklets in breezy?
[05:35] <odie5533> This seems horribly redundant
[05:35] <salkin> odie5533: now you can use your new compiler to compile itself, so you can use the whole language
[05:35] <odie5533> why not just have the CPU hardware itself know C?
[05:35] <aeon17x> darknuala: yes, running more than two of them might stall your system a bit.,
[05:35] <Amaranth> the original cc compiler was a PITA to right
[05:36] <aeon17x> darknuala: but that's just me >_>
[05:36] <niels_> amaranth: "coudn't stat source package list  http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:36] <Amaranth> err, write
[05:36] <salkin> odie5533: the compiler takes source text and translates it to an intermediate form, optimizes it some if you ask it to, and writes machine code
[05:36] <sproingie> odie5533: because there's no point in that
[05:36] <Amaranth> niels_: yes, turn backports off for now
[05:36] <salkin> odie5533: some compilers will also emit the equivalant assembler if you ask them to
[05:36] <darknuala> aeon17x, no i'm talking about a specific problem. lol  the starter bar won't let me change the icon to anything except for what is in /usr/share/pixmaps
[05:36] <niels_> amaranth: how do i turn them off?
[05:36] <odie5533> sproingie, I don't see the point in a C compiler if theres no point to let the hardware use C instead of machine code
[05:36] <Amaranth> niels_: realplayer isn't in backports anyway
[05:37] <Amaranth> niels_: synaptic has a gui for editting repositories, i can't remember which menu it's under though
[05:37] <mahangu> niels_, http://www.realplayer.com/linux for realplayer
[05:37] <salkin> odie5533: if you are interested read "a retargetable c compiler: design and implementation"by fraser and hanson
[05:37] <aeon17x> darknuala: you can change the icon to whatever pic you want. It just doesn't how that it HAS changed the icon until you ok'd it.
[05:37] <sproingie> odie5533: because C is a high level language way beyond what a CPU is expected to do.  it's the reason your fridge doesn't have a blender and a stove and a dishwasher built in
[05:37] <sizzam> Amaranth, niels_  - Settings > Repositories
[05:37] <odie5533> sproingie, maybe it should?
[05:37] <salkin> odie5533: or, alternatively, "Programming language pragmatics" by Scott if you are interest in languages beyond C
[05:37] <aeon17x> *show
[05:38] <salkin> odie5533: which, imho, you should be
[05:38] <odie5533> salkin, I suppose I shouldn't actually care about the internals of my pc, but only that it does work
[05:38] <sproingie> odie5533: doubtful. i'm certainly not hearing any real argument to that effect.  learn something about languages and compilers
[05:38] <odie5533> sproingie, I'm trying to as we speak ;)
[05:38] <salkin> odie5533: the point of using a language other than machine code or assembler mnemonics for same is that one can program at a higher level of abstraction
[05:38] <darknuala> aeon17x, even though the picons i want are greyed out?
[05:38] <ajmitch_> odie5533: because then you'd be paying about 100x more for a CPU that could take C code & have its own internal compiler in hardware :)
[05:38] <sproingie> odie5533: lisp on the other hand has had hardware that was more or less specialized for running lisp
[05:39] <niels_> amaranth: i know nothing about either... i just want to install real player, but it keeps giving me these stupid error messages about backports... anyways, i'll get rid of the backports and see if that does the trick... thanks...
[05:39] <odie5533> salkin, why not just skip the middle man and have the hardware understand the C...
[05:39] <salkin> odie5533: and also of course there is some chance your program will work on a machine with a different cpu
[05:39] <sproingie> odie5533: they still didn't interpret lisp directly in hardware
[05:39] <N6REJ> Seveas: you got a second?
[05:39] <aeon17x> darknuala: oh, the starter bar. The one that looks like an OS X bar? You can't change what's already there. You have to change the icons before putting your shortcuts there.
[05:39] <odie5533> why not though? At least have it move to ASM instead of machine code?
[05:39] <Amaranth> salkin: err, because programmers are stupid and the compiler is smart?
[05:39] <salkin> odie5533: I begin to believe that IHBT
[05:39] <N6REJ> #edubuntu
[05:39] <odie5533> what is ihbt?
[05:39] <sproingie> odie5533: intel chips do have some support for c-like languages right in the opcodes.  pascal actually.  but those codes are horrendously slow.
[05:39] <salkin> Amaranth: please tell me what I said that led you to say that
[05:39] <judax> #ubuntu-doc
[05:40] <darknuala> aeon17x, it won't let me change icons, they are all greyed out
[05:40] <Amaranth> salkin: and it would be a lot slower since it'd make the part of the CPUs do a lot more work
[05:40] <Amaranth> salkin: about making the computer read C instead of compiling it
[05:40] <salkin> Amaranth: that was not me
[05:40] <odie5533> salkin, why would it be slower?
[05:40] <woddf2> WINE can't find libstdc++.so.5!
[05:40] <aeon17x> darknuala: greyed out?
[05:40] <Amaranth> salkin: oops
[05:40] <salkin> Amaranth: np :)
[05:40] <aeon17x> woddf2: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:40] <darknuala> aeon17x, on hoary, i could change the icons to whatever I wanted to. On breezy the icons are "greyed out" and I cannot select them
[05:41] <strannik> could somebody remind the command to see the whole list of processes that are running?
[05:41] <woddf2> >>
[05:41] <woddf2> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:41] <woddf2> <<
[05:41] <odie5533> Why would hardware reading C be slower than software?
[05:41] <strannik> something like ps auth or something
[05:41] <woddf2> aeon17x: It didn't do anything.
[05:41] <woddf2> It just said
[05:41] <woddf2> >>
[05:41] <woddf2> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:41] <thoreauputic> strannik: ps aux  maybe
[05:41] <woddf2> <<
[05:41] <woddf2> .
[05:41] <UnL0cK> oh man this copy paste and formating is stressing
[05:41] <Amaranth> odie5533: the compiler optimizes the C so the CPU doesn't have to extra work.
[05:41] <salkin> odie5533: you must learn how a cpu works before this will make sense to you. Please read something.
[05:41] <aeon17x> woddf2: it means you don't have broken packages.
[05:42] <UnL0cK> 52 pages and i only edited 18
[05:42] <Amaranth> odie5533: If the CPU had to do all the stuff the compiler does we'd be lucky if we hit 1Ghz
[05:42] <strannik> thoreauputic, yes, thank you
[05:42] <odie5533> Amaranth, what optimizations does it actually do?
[05:42] <Amaranth> odie5533: and that 1Ghz would run like a 500Mhz or so, i'm betting
[05:42] <strannik> just what I needed
[05:42] <N6REJ> can anyone tell me the differences between ubuntu and edubuntu?
[05:42] <sproingie> Amaranth: hell not even that
[05:42] <woddf2> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:42] <fadumpt> edubuntu is made more towards education use
[05:42] <woddf2> Wine says: >>
[05:42] <strannik> and to kill the process i would need to type sudo kill #PID
[05:42] <woddf2> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:42] <woddf2> <<
[05:42] <aeon17x> N6REJ: Edubuntu has some educational packages and a kid on the wallpaper.
[05:42] <sizzam> N6REJ - so far, it looks like more games, cartoonish icons and wallpaper
[05:43] <strannik> right?
[05:43] <N6REJ> aeon17x: is it geared more towards server usage by default?
[05:43] <thoreauputic> strannik: that's one way
[05:43] <aeon17x> woddf2: try searching for that package on the repositories.
[05:43] <N6REJ> I know it has LTSP that breezy doesn't
[05:43] <thoreauputic> strannik: or pkill (quicker) or killall <processname>
[05:43] <Marko> Anyone have sound working in gaim?
[05:43] <aeon17x> N6REJ: I think it's just the same as normal Ubuntu, unless you set it up to work as a server.
[05:43] <aeon17x> Marko: yes, and it's annoying.
[05:44] <woddf2> Wine says: >>
[05:44] <woddf2> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:44] <aeon17x> Marko: the system speaker is much better in sounds.
[05:44] <woddf2> <<
[05:44] <aeon17x> Marko: *doot*
[05:44] <aeon17x> Marko: *beep*
[05:44] <thoreauputic> strannik: normally sudo is only needed if the process runs as root
[05:44] <Marko> aeon17x: what sound method are you using under your preferences?
[05:44] <aeon17x> Marko: Console Beep
[05:44] <N6REJ> aeon17x: thats what I'm interested in, is as a server.  I have a fairly large family ( 6 people ) so we need a good network and we have 2 server sites... one for the family ( intranet ) and one public, plus each child has their own site.
[05:45] <strannik> really strange, i have stopped the man command in console by pressing ctrl+c
[05:45] <mrhags> is there anyplace i could download a boot up manager from
[05:45] <Amaranth> odie5533: i can't find details
[05:45] <Amaranth> odie5533: ask a gentoo user ;)
[05:45] <aeon17x> N6REJ: I'm also a newbie concerning this, so I'm afraid I can't help you in setting that up.
[05:45] <strannik> i type ps aux | grep man and see that the "man esd" process has the pid 7484
[05:45] <sizzam> mrhags:  check this out  http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#bum
[05:45] <strannik> i type pkill 7484
[05:45] <aeon17x> strannik: press Q to quit man/info.
[05:45] <sproingie> Amaranth: you say that as if gentoo users actually understood a thing about compiling
[05:46] <Marko> aeon17x: so you just get beeps and not the regular sounds?
[05:46] <thoreauputic> strannik: no, pkill takes a name not a PID :)
[05:46] <aeon17x> Marko: yeah. But I can also get regular sounds if I wanted to.
[05:46] <Amaranth> sproingie: most of them don't realize -Os is better than -O2 so yeah, good point
[05:46] <alnr> trying vncserver, I'm getting could not open default font 'fixed'. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ has no font directories even though I xfonts-base and xfont-100dpi are installed. This is on a VPS (headless). any ideas?
[05:46] <strannik> ok, pkill man, just did it
[05:46] <Marko> ason17x: what do you use to get normal sounds?
[05:46] <kevogod> -Os is better than -O2?
[05:46] <strannik> and when i type ps aux | grep man
[05:46] <strannik> i still see the man esd process
[05:47] <strannik> strange stuff
[05:47] <aeon17x> Marko: I just let the default on (I think it's Automatic).
[05:47] <Marko> aeon17x: cause arts and esd both do not produce any output for me
[05:47] <thoreauputic> strannik: well, sudo killall man should put a stop yo it ;-)
[05:47] <thoreauputic> *to
[05:47] <sproingie> Amaranth: it's not better than -O2, just smaller.  www.funroll-loops.org
[05:47] <Marko> aeon17x: Actually nothing produces any output for me.  not even auto or console beep
[05:47] <Amaranth> sproingie: it's usually better for memory and disk read reasons
[05:48] <aeon17x> alnr: sudo fc-cache -f -v
[05:48] <sizzam> Marko:  is Gaim the only thing you cant get to give you sound?
[05:48] <blunted> Marko, maybe your ubuntu is like mine
[05:48] <blunted> and does not have support for your sound card
[05:48] <strannik> thoreauputic: it didn't help...
[05:48] <Marko> sizzam: that and gnomoradio.  I get sound in rhythmbox and totem
[05:48] <strannik> the man esd is still living =)
[05:48] <blunted> because they have some half assed developers
[05:49] <aeon17x> strannik: That's one persistent process you got there.
[05:49] <strannik> entered top and tried to kill it from there, still living
[05:49] <strannik> wtf is going on with this "man" command?
[05:49] <sizzam> Marko:  i think this is the thread that fixed my sound issues  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753
[05:49] <strannik> its not that its killing me,,..just interested on why it won't die!
[05:49] <thoreauputic> strannik: umm... odd, I never needed to kill a man process - but if you issue kill -KILL <process number >  it should die rather suddenly
[05:49] <alekz> hi, anyone knows a photo organizer? like ACDSee win win
[05:50] <Marko> sizzam:  cool.  I'll take a look
[05:50] <sproingie> Amaranth: it totally depends on the app.  you wouldn't want an a/v codec that used -Os, unless perhaps you needed it on a PDA
[05:50] <alnr> aeon17x: it looked promising, but vncserver still get the fatal error not finding default font 'fixed'
[05:50] <aeon17x> Eh guys, I've gotta go now. Later.
[05:51] <sizzam> alekz:   F-Spot  is supposed to be the best alternative out right now for what Picasa does on Windows
[05:51] <Amaranth> sproingie: A guy from red hat wrote a paper that basically shows that for most cases -Os will be better. Of course, there are always exceptions.
[05:51] <alekz> sizzam, yeah F-Spot i had it but i couldn't remember the name thanks :)
[05:51] <strannik> oh yes....now its dead =)
[05:51] <kevogod> blunted, trolling is for trolls
[05:52] <sizzam> alekz:  otherwise, just for photoviewing, i prefer gqview
[05:52] <salkin> sproingie: because of instruction cache size
[05:52] <strannik> i don't really care if it was man or firefox, just interested why didn't it get killed in the first place
[05:52] <sizzam> alekz:  it lets you scroll through pics with your mouse wheel
[05:52] <spencerk> i just installed build essentials and i get this error:
[05:52] <spencerk> grep: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory
[05:52] <spencerk> gcc -I. -Ikernel/include -I/usr/local/include  -Wall -O2  -c lib/chips.c -o lib/chips.ao
[05:52] <spencerk> lib/chips.c:23:36: kernel/include/sensors.h: No such file or directory
[05:52] <blunted> kevogod, ?
[05:52] <thoreauputic> strannik:  man signal   ;-)
[05:52] <blunted> i see you have some kinda god complex thing, i had better not mess with you
[05:52] <blunted> might strike me down to hades
[05:53] <kevogod> Hades is fictional. I am real.
[05:53] <sizzam> Hades is not fictional
[05:53] <sizzam> i work there, i should know
[05:53] <HrdwrBoB> spencerk: apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[05:53] <tritium> please stay on topic
[05:53] <HrdwrBoB> spencerk: apt-get install linux-kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:53] <alekz> sizzam, do u have the repo to get F-Spot ? E: Couldn't find package F-Spot
[05:53] <tritium> linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:53] <strannik> thoreauputic i just read it and ....I have absolutely no idea what so ever about what it is talking about =)
[05:54] <kevogod> tritium, We were discussing a package called Hades, but it does not exist.
[05:54] <spencerk> thank you
[05:54] <sizzam> alekz:  i've never used it myself, just read about it
[05:54] <sizzam> alekz:  heres the url http://www.gnome.org/projects/f-spot/#download
[05:54] <alekz> sizzam, recommended to install from source ?
[05:54] <sizzam> alekz:  wait, i see it when i do  apt-cache search f-spot
[05:54] <tritium> sizzam, f-spot is available as an ubuntu package
[05:55] <sizzam> tritium:  thanks, just saw that
[05:55] <alekz> let me see
[05:55] <thoreauputic> strannik: hehehe - yeah man pages are like that - they need to be read about 5 times before they start to make sense *grin*
[05:55] <sizzam> alekz:  i hate installing ANYTHING from source
[05:55] <alekz> sizzam, yeap was case sensitive :P im installing now thanks bro u r a wizard :P
[05:56] <sizzam> np :-)
[05:56] <kevogod> Ubuntu no longer fades the background when having to enter a password for gksudo. Are other people experiencing the same thing?
[05:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there anyway, from command line, to specifiy which workspace a program starts in?
[05:56] <thoreauputic> strannik: basically it's telling you the different numbers you can use with "kill" - like kill -9 which is terminal :D
[05:56] <tarheelcoxn> BROKEN_LADDER: under gnome? I gave up on that a good while back
[05:57] <niels_> all: where can i find libdvdcss???
[05:57] <gigaclon> move the command line into the workspace you want
[05:57] <Aven> 'lo
[05:57] <gigaclon> hii
[05:57] <tarheelcoxn> where do I put a cursor font if I want gnome to find it when I restart X?
[05:57] <tarheelcoxn> I want to install http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6240&PHPSESSID=48b1f83b26c80fbe1b6e843247ae9b48
[05:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> tarheelcoxn give roy williams back to ku.
[05:57] <nalioth> niels_: in hoary-extras
[05:58] <tarheelcoxn> but the instructions are for KDE
[05:58] <Marko> sizzam: Hey your sounds advice worked.  Thanks
[05:58] <spencerk> HrdwrBoB, my linux-kernel-headers are already the newest version
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> tarheelcoxn i just used kde for a few months and i'm back in gnome.  kde is so much more usable, but gnome just looks so much cooler.
[05:58] <bimberi> !dvd
[05:58] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can get from here: http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/
[05:58] <tarheelcoxn> BROKEN_LADDER: I would, but I'm not associated with UNC-CH anymore
[05:58] <sizzam> Marko:  cool :-)
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> kde feels like windows.
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> tarheelcoxn hhmmmm...well give that championship he won to kansas.
[05:58] <tarheelcoxn> lol
[05:58] <spencerk> HrdwrBoB, it also didnt like the (uname) one
[05:58] <tarheelcoxn> besides, the nick should make it obvious I did crew, not basketball
[05:59] <tritium> spencerk, that's because you used the wrong package name
[05:59] <niels_> nalioth: i"m on breezy though?
[05:59] <HrdwrBoB> spencerk: if you have the kernel headers it should work
[05:59] <tritium> it's linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:59] <HrdwrBoB> spencerk: though it depends how it's accessing them
[05:59] <spencerk> ya i trie dthat
[05:59] <HrdwrBoB> tritium: oops
[05:59] <spencerk> is there a how-to for this?
[05:59] <tritium> spencerk, what are you doing?
[06:00] <sizzam> niels_  I bet its part of libdvdread3
[06:00] <spencerk> 'make user' for a lbsensors gdesklet thing
[06:00] <sizzam> niels_  because when I apt-cache search libdvdcss,  that comes back as a result
[06:00] <spencerk> lmsnesor
[06:00] <spencerk> lmsensor
[06:01] <dooglus> niels_: install libdvdread3, then run the script.
[06:01] <bimberi> ubotu tell niels_ about dvd
[06:01] <niels_> sizzam: i did the same search and got the same result... i guess my intepretation was too literal... thanks
[06:01] <gustomoko> hi, guys,, just have a question,, i downloaded breezy, can i install it without burning it to cd
[06:01] <tarheelcoxn> so nobody has any thoughts on getting a cursor font packaged for KDE up and running under gnome?
[06:01] <sizzam> niels_  just a guess, could be wrong
[06:01] <spencerk> its gives a big error loop with 'lib/chips.c:5393: error:'
[06:01] <dooglus> !tell niels_ about dvdcss
[06:01] <tarheelcoxn> gustomoko: you don't have a burner?
[06:02] <tarheelcoxn> gustomoko: order free disks by mail?
[06:02] <dooglus> niels_: check out that 'dvdcss' information - it tells you how to install it
[06:02] <geno_> How do I add icon themes?
[06:02] <dooglus> niels_: imagine my surprise - I just noticed that I didn't have it installed either.  all the dvds I had watched so far didn't use css encryption.  now I tried 'the matrix' and needed css...
[06:03] <sizzam> geno_ - i think its with that same 'install theme' button that you used before
[06:03] <niels_> dooglus: where would that be? in the wiki guide?
[06:03] <neighborlee> bob2, not sure but I think it was false alarm as in CD smudge or something, as it finally went through
[06:03] <geno_> sizzam: I'll tyr that out
[06:03] <gustomoko> tarheelcoxn <<< i don't have,,, i did but i can't wait for brezzy to be installed
[06:04] <dooglus> niels_: install package 'libdvdread3' then run 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[06:04] <refuze2looze> i just plugged in my iPod in hoary, and i'm trying to unmount it but i get device is busy even though i'm not using it..
[06:04] <refuze2looze> how can i safely disconnect my ipod?
[06:04] <dooglus> refuze2looze: did you 'cd' to it?
[06:05] <geno_> sizzam: errr... it doesn't add the icons and the theme I tried before didn't work, I thought it was the theme itself, gonna try with another
[06:05] <sizzam> refuze2looze:  how about sudo eject /media/ipod/
[06:05] <niels_> dooglus: wow, that worked...  you guys are smart...
[06:05] <sizzam> geno_ - you might need to go to the details of a them, then the icons tab to see you new icon theme as a choice
[06:05] <refuze2looze> sizzam: nope.. when i do that first it tries to umount it. same thing "umount: /media/iPod: device is busy"
[06:05] <refuze2looze> dooglus: no
[06:06] <dooglus> refuze2looze: oh, I don't know then.  you might find that runnnig "sync" and then yanking the plug out will be safe enough, but I can't promise
[06:06] <sizzam> refuze2looze:  is it USB?
[06:06] <dooglus> niels_: one other thing - DVDs were playing back very 'choppy' until I enabled DMA on the DVD drive
[06:06] <budluva_> can anyone suggest a good news reader? ie for usenet
[06:06] <refuze2looze> sizzam, yes
[06:06] <niels_> dooglus: damn, still won"t play the damn thing...
[06:07] <sizzam> refuze2looze:  try sudo eject /dev/sda
[06:07] <tarheelcoxn> gustomoko: http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html
[06:07] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: you can try a "lazy umount" -  umount -l /device/name
[06:07] <tarheelcoxn> you should be able to re-work that slightly to install breezy
[06:07] <refuze2looze> sizzam, yeah i tried that already with now luck =/
[06:07] <niels_> dooglus: what and where is DMA and how do i enable it?
[06:07] <sizzam> refuze2looze:  did you see the shell script that someone suggested in the forums?
[06:08] <geno_> sizzam: My other theme works now thanks :)
[06:08] <sizzam> refuze2looze:   post 15 in this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12345
[06:08] <dooglus> niels_: "sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc" turned it on for me - but I recommend running "xine-check" and seeing what it suggests.
[06:08] <bimberi> niels_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[06:08] <sizzam> geno_ cool :-)
[06:08] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: do  lsof | grep /media/iPod to see what's tying it up
[06:08] <dooglus> niels_: xine-check is quite scary about running hdparm - like you can corrupt your hard disks if you're not careful
[06:09] <dooglus> niels_: have you installed "totem-xine"?  'cos you should.
[06:09] <tarheelcoxn> gustomoko: hope that's not too far over your head
[06:09] <dooglus> niels_: also, do you have "libdvdnav4" installed?
[06:10] <evgeniy> hi all, ubunru real good , thx for this
[06:11] <refuze2looze> sizzam, yeah i saw it earlier but it gives me error messages (i changed the device to the correct path)
[06:11] <niels_> dooglus: totem came pre-installedm libdvdnav4 not sure, will check... i'll check the wiki on DMA before going down that road...
[06:11] <dooglus> niels_: aah yes, but the totem that comes pre-installed is the wrong one...
[06:11] <dooglus> niels_: try installing totem-xine
[06:11] <sizzam> refuze2looze: im out of ideas :-(  looks like it might be a common problem though
[06:12] <dooglus> niels_: it will remove totem-gstreamer - that's ok
[06:12] <geno_> sizzam: Much more good-looking now. It looks so much cooler than any of my WindowsBlinds theme, even the Vista one.
[06:12] <niels_> dooglus:totem-xine is in synaptic?
[06:12] <dooglus> niels_: yes.
[06:12] <refuze2looze> i'll just turn off my computer and take it out then... won't be using my ipod with ubuntu any time soon i guess
[06:12] <gustomoko> tarheelcoxn : thanks
[06:12] <tarheelcoxn> gustomoko: np
[06:12] <tarheelcoxn> good luck
[06:12] <sizzam> geno_ : the themes are a big plus for me over windows
[06:13] <dooglus> niels_: also, install "xine-ui".  that's a xine player without the totem interface.
[06:13] <cef> Woot! Looks like proper ntfs write support isn't far away. http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=8524927&forum_id=2697
[06:13] <niels_> dooglus: libdvdnav4 already installed... now on to totem-xine and xine-ui...
[06:14] <dooglus> niels_: once you've got "xine-ui" installed, add a line to your .bashrc saying:
[06:14] <dooglus> alias dvd='xine --auto-play=fq --auto-scan dvd &'
[06:14] <pc05> hai!
[06:14] <dooglus> niels_: then you can watch a DVD just by typing "dvd" in a shell
[06:14] <sizzam> i havent found a dvd player that lets actually lets me click on menus,  whats everyone else using?
[06:14] <pc05> hai!
[06:14] <dooglus> sizzam: see that alias I just wrote?  that does it.
[06:14] <geno_> sizzam: I like the Human mix of GNOME and Etiquette, plus it takes my iPod icon
[06:15] <dooglus> sizzam: once you've installed 'xine-ui'
[06:15] <mel_> hi
[06:15] <mel_> hello
[06:15] <sizzam> dooglus - cool,  ive auto-played it in xine but couldnt click the menus, i'll try that though
[06:15] <dooglus> hi mel
[06:15] <mel_> i am good
[06:15] <pc05> hai!
[06:15] <mel_> lalalal
[06:15] <mel_> i am ok bye
[06:16] <dooglus> sizzam: install libdvdnav4 if you don't have it
[06:16] <dazvid> cef, looks interesting. I dont want to risk my ntfs drive to test it though :P
[06:16] -WHATISMENX:#ubuntu- hello bro im invitacion and #mundolinux new comunnity
[06:16] <niels_> dooglus: totem-xine and xine-ui installed... where is my bash rc?
[06:16] <sizzam> dooglus:  libdvdnav4 is already the newest version.
[06:16] <dooglus> niels_: in your home directory, called .bashrc
[06:16] <trans_err> anyone know why my machine would halt everytime I try to compile a kernel?
[06:17] <dooglus> niels_: you can just run this to add the alias:
[06:17] <dooglus> echo "alias dvd='xine --auto-play=fq --auto-scan dvd &'" >> ~/.bashrc
[06:17] <sizzam> dooglus:  do i have to restart gdm for that bashrc change to take affect
[06:18] <dooglus> niels_: make sure you use a double > !
[06:18] <gustomoko> tarheelcoxn: i will try to understand every bit of this thing...lol,,, sorry, newbie here:)
[06:18] <dooglus> sizzam: just run a new terminal
[06:18] <dooglus> sizzam: type "alias dvd" in the new shell to check that it worked
[06:18] <sizzam> dooglus:  thanks man!
[06:18] <dooglus> sizzam: if it did, it'll show you the alias
[06:18] <niels_> dooglus:have yet to do the bashrc, but it seems to working nonetheless...
[06:18] <dooglus> niels_: the .bashrc thing is just to get the 'dvd' alias...
[06:18] <dooglus> niels_: for auto-playing the dvd, etc.
[06:19] <cef> dazvid: true.. but hey.. it's got more support in it already than the old buggered write support, and all the stuff that's been done in the new code is mainly the hard bits.. so yeah.. by dapper we may actually have proper ntfs write support! Woo!
[06:19] <geno_> How can I add new splash screens?
[06:19] <sizzam> douglus:   'dvd' does launch the dvd in xine, but i still can't click "Play Movie" in the menu
[06:19] <dooglus> sizzam: really?  I can.
[06:19] <niels_> dooglus: to be honest, i have no idea what you are talking about... is it essential that i try to figure this out...
[06:20] <sizzam> dooglus:  i must be missing a package
[06:20] <Zealot87> does anyone know how i can use WINE in Ubuntu
[06:20] <cef> Agrajag: "Oh no not again." *grin*
[06:20] <GregAsche_> why does the partition manager keep telling me I need to set a root file sytem when I try to install breezy?
[06:20] <mwright1> How do I get the LDAP client working wth ubuntu
[06:20] <dooglus> niels_: if you can play DVDs now then no worries - job done :)
[06:20] <dooglus> sizzam: I guess so!
[06:20] <tarheelcoxn> gustomoko: read twice before you start. take notes. ciao for now!
[06:20] <qmanman> anyone in here have ATI drivers on AMD64 atm?
[06:21] <qmanman> working that is
[06:21] <mwright1> with RHEL and FC4 its really easy there is a system-config-authentication
[06:21] <Zealot87> anyone know how to use WINE in ubuntu? :P
[06:21] <mwright1> what is the equivelent in ubuntu
[06:21] <din> gn
[06:21] <sizzam> dooglus:  i can click menus if i use ogle
[06:22] <dooglus> sizzam: ogle?  what's that?
[06:22] <sizzam> dooglus:  looks like its a divd specific player
[06:22] <sizzam> divd = dvd
[06:22] <qmanman> Zealot87: dude google turns up plently of info on wine and ubuntu
[06:22] <GregAsche_> what's the easiest way to format a partition
[06:22] <GregAsche_> at command line that is
[06:23] <dooglus> sizzam: what do you see if you: echo $(dpkg -l | grep -iE '^ii.*(dvd|xine)' | awk '{print $2}' | sort)
[06:23] <qmanman> GregAsche: /sbin should have some "mkfs.(filesystem) commands
[06:23] <gustomoko> tarheelcoxn: thanks dude
[06:23] <dooglus> sizzam: I see "dvd+rw-tools gnomebaker gstreamer0.8-dvd libdvdcss2 libdvdnav4 libdvdread3 libxine1c2 libxinerama1 libxinerama-dev totem-xine x11proto-xinerama-dev xine-ui" - you missing any of those?
[06:23] <sizzam> dooglus:   dvd+rw-tools gstreamer0.8-dvd libdvdnav4 libdvdread3 libxine1c2 libxinerama1 ogle xine-ui
[06:24] <sizzam> dooglus:  k, i'll install everything thats missing from your list
[06:24] <niels_> dooglus: thanks so much...
[06:24] <qmanman> me wishes he bought a Nvidia based laptop
[06:24] <dooglus> sizzam: you don't have libdvdcss2.  you need to run "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh" to get it
[06:24] <dooglus> sizzam: you don't need it all - it's just all the 'xine' and 'dvd' stuff I've got
[06:25] <dooglus> gnomebaker is for burning disks, for example.
[06:25] <sizzam> dooglus:  k, doing the install-css.sh thang
[06:25] <dooglus> xinerama is for dual-screen stuff
[06:25] <sizzam> dooglus:  good call, that was it
[06:25] <geno_> I actually made Ubuntu bug...
[06:25] <dooglus> really?
[06:26] <geno_> All the programs went off one by one.
[06:26] <dooglus> sizzam: I thought disks were either css encoded or not.  yet you could play a disk back without libdvdcss?
[06:26] <steve___> i have a dell 2100mp projector that i am trying to get to work under linux.  I bummed around the internet for an hour or so and farked with the vertical and horizontal values in the xorg.conf.  I know i'm missing something easy any ideas?
[06:26] <geno_> How can I add splash screens?
[06:26] <Zealot87> qmanman, i dont usually check google for things of this nature, google is too non-specific as far as im concerned
[06:26] <dooglus> Zealot87: google is as specific as your search string.
[06:26] <qmanman> Zealot87: well this was the second hit --> http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[06:26] <sizzam> dooglus:  yep, it would play through all the menus as if it were part of the movie
[06:27] <starscalling> fuck off irc im out
[06:27] <dooglus> what an extraordinary performance!
[06:27] <Zealot87> qmanman, ohh i already did that, but is it supposed to show up now in my apps menu? or something?
[06:28] <tritium> bur[n] er, it's not a security fix, is it?
[06:28] <qmanman> Zealot87: nope, theres no gui as far as I know
[06:28] <batman> hey does anyone know why my wifi card isn't installing the drivers i'm using ndiswrapper and i click install then it doesn't show that it is installed
[06:28] <qmanman> Zealot87:  you just "wine (windows exe)"
[06:28] <WinZ> Anybody have a patch for UTF-8 in mc_4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4 ??
[06:29] <batman> i have integrated wireless and a seperateg  card i'm trying to install
[06:29] <Zealot87> qmanman, oh! heh, thanks!
[06:30] <alekz> hi, i've installed aMSN but is not working fine, why i cant see users displays ?
[06:30] <dazvid> Question for people with nvidia 7676 drivers (or anyone who knows). Which kernel source package do you need to get?
[06:30] <qmanman> Zealot87: reading the generic docs at WineHQ is a great place to start on learning general usage
[06:31] <tritium> dazvid, why not just use the binary drivers that ubuntu provides?
[06:31] <dazvid> because I want to see how the 7676 drivers run :)
[06:32] <bur[n] er> tritium: dunno... could be, there were "show-stopper" bugs
[06:32] <bur[n] er> tritium: not sure what the context of "show-stopper" is
[06:32] <BeanDip> howdy folks
[06:32] <BeanDip> having a problem here
[06:32] <tritium> bur[n] er, don't count on it
[06:33] <BeanDip> I installed ubuntu breezy server
[06:33] <BeanDip> installed ltsp following the wiki guide
[06:33] <bur[n] er> tritium: just curious... thanks for the feedback :)
[06:33] <qmanman> dazvid: assuming your running 2.6.12-9 it would be "linux-source-2.6.12-9"
[06:33] <chillywilly> anyone had any problems with libapache2-mod-fastcgi not dynamically spawning processes?
[06:33] <BeanDip> I get booted up to a xdm login screen
[06:33] <batman> hey does anyone know why my wifi card isn't installing the drivers i'm using ndiswrapper and i click install then it doesn't show that it is installed
[06:33] <BeanDip> but I can't login with any of my server's user accounts
[06:33] <dazvid> qmanman, that is correct. Thanks I will give it ago
[06:33] <tritium> bur[n] er, it would be nice, though, I agree...
[06:34] <BeanDip> any ideas?
[06:34] <notChankster> Ive got a question about mounting a NTFS drive to be writeable
[06:34] <bur[n] er> ctrl+alt+f2 :)
[06:34] <bur[n] er> skip the xdm and try
[06:34] <dooglus> notChankster: it's questionable whether it's safe, and it's not possible anyway with the standard ubuntu kernel
[06:34] <oranged> isn't ntfs write unstable still?
[06:34] <bur[n] er> notChankster: it's not recommended... but shoot
[06:34] <BeanDip> bur[n] er, I did so
[06:35] <BeanDip> still no dice
[06:35] <qmanman> notChankster: dont
[06:35] <BeanDip> it doesn't recognise any of my users
[06:35] <tritium> notChankster, risky it is.  Lose your data you may...
[06:35] <BeanDip> as if they don't exist on the system
[06:35] <bur[n] er> BeanDip: boot a livecd and chroot and run passwd username.... sounds like a lot i know
[06:35] <oranged> format a partition as fat if you want an easy way to transfer files between two installs
[06:35] <notChankster> basically I'm trying to remove some files on a drive because windows wont let me remove them
[06:35] <qmanman> anyone in here live in Alaska?
[06:36] <BeanDip> bur[n] er, no need to do that, I can login at the server
[06:36] <BeanDip> just not from ltsp thin clients
[06:36] <bur[n] er> awwwwww
[06:36] <BeanDip> the accounts exist
[06:36] <sizzam> notChankster:  like said above, its experimental and extremely dangerous, but here's a page to check out:   http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[06:36] <eazel7> where can I find ubuntu's bugzilla (if any)?
[06:36] <Amgine> Question about logrotate: it cannot find gzip which is on the path but not in /bin
[06:36] <tritium> bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[06:36] <hui> is this where I can get help?
[06:37] <notChankster> Sizzam: so if i shouldnt do it, do you have an idea of how to remove a file that windows wont let me delete?
[06:37] <notChankster> sizzam: ive already tried booting into safe mode
[06:37] <sizzam> notChankster:   can you delete it in Windows Safe Mode?
[06:37] <sizzam> lol
[06:37] <eazel7> thanks trichmon
[06:37] <notChankster> beat ya
[06:37] <eazel7> sorry trichmon
[06:37] <eazel7> thanks tritium
[06:37] <sizzam> notChankster:  is it possible that a windows process is holding onto it, even in safe mode?
[06:37] <tritium> sure thing
[06:37] <hui> oh btw HI
[06:38] <eazel7> yeah, me too, hellow world
[06:38] <notChankster> sizzam its possible but I cant find any process threads attached to those files
[06:38] <sizzam> notChankster:  is it in your /temp folder or anything like that
[06:39] <geno_> How can I add GDM themes?
[06:39] <notChankster> sizzam: No, one file is on my desktop, the other files are on a different partition
[06:39] <Zealot87> problem, my FAT32 disk is mounted here :   /media/0\040GB\040Disk\040(hdb1)
[06:39] <sizzam> hmm
[06:39] <eazel7> geno_, in gdm setup you have an 'install theme' button
[06:39] <hui> adding GDM themes is in system->admin->
[06:39] <sizzam> whats the extension on the file
[06:39] <Zealot87> i need to get rid of those parenthesis
[06:39] <notChankster> sizzam: one is a .exe another a .dll
[06:40] <dooglus> Zealot87: \040'
[06:40] <dooglus> Zealot87: '\040' just means 'space'
[06:40] <Zealot87> dooglus? how do i change the mount directory?
[06:40] <dooglus> Zealot87: edit /etc/fstab
[06:40] <hui> after that i forget, I was just in there looking and I saw tha tbut I have no themes to add so didn't
[06:40] <gilbert_> #ubuntu
[06:40] <sizzam> notChankster:  that leads me to believe that it may be in use
[06:41] <sizzam> notChankster:  will it let you drag it into another folder or anything
[06:41] <gilbert_> hi people anybody can help me
[06:41] <notChankster> sizzam: No
[06:41] <gilbert_> synaptic problem
[06:41] <hui> what eazel17 said though, there's a button
[06:41] <dooglus> gilbert_: not yet we can't.
[06:41] <notChankster> sizzam: i'll brb going to try something
[06:41] <gilbert_> hi people anybody can help me
[06:41] <gilbert_> hi people anybody can help me
[06:41] <gilbert_> synaptic problem
[06:41] <Sirrush> Hello Everyone
[06:42] <Zealot87> dooglus, i saved the file, should i restart now? or will it set in immediatly
[06:42] <dooglus> gilbert_: details?
[06:42] <geno_> !!!!! My them anager makes GNOMe bug completely!!1
[06:42] <ubotu> geno_: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:42] <hui> sure someone can help you but not me
[06:42] <dooglus> Zealot87: you need to create the directory you want it to mount over
[06:42] <geno_> I just change the them and poof!
[06:42] <sizzam> notChankster:  unless you can narrow down an app loading at startup, maybe via msconfig,  you might be looking at using the recovery console
[06:42] <sizzam> notChankster:   http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307654
[06:42] <dooglus> Zealot87: then you can "sudo mount -a" to get it mounted this time - in future it will happen automatically
[06:42] <dooglus> Zealot87: (assuming you left the 'auto' in the fstab for that entry)
[06:43] <hui> gilbert what are you trying to do?
[06:43] <geno_> I think it's the "qt" control
[06:43] <gilbert_> i dont know my libgtk1.2.10-17 is mark by red
[06:43] <gilbert_> i dont know my libgtk1.2.10-17 is mark by red
[06:43] <gilbert_> help me
[06:43] <Zealot87> dooglus, i dont see any auto reference in the file
[06:44] <dooglus> Zealot87: can you copy the file to the pastebin?
[06:44] <dooglus> !paste
[06:44] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:44] <Zealot87> the mount was added by winmac_fstab utility
[06:44] <gilbert_> i dont know my libgtk1.2.10-17 is mark by red
[06:44] <gilbert_> help me
[06:44] <gilbert_> i dont know my libgtk1.2.10-17 is mark by red
[06:44] <hui> I need help too, I am trying to resize my partitions ntfs and fat
[06:44] <gilbert_> help me
[06:44] <gilbert_> i dont know my libgtk1.2.10-17 is mark by red
[06:44] <Zealot87> yeah wahts the paste bin link?
[06:44] <gilbert_> help me
[06:44] <cypa> Hi
[06:44] <dooglus> Zealot87: look up about 10 lins
[06:44] <dooglus> lines
[06:44] <Zealot87> dooglus, whats the paste bin's link
[06:44] <cypa> how do I install Java Runtime Env?
[06:44] <cypa> what is the packet name?
[06:45] <hui> How do I resize an ntfs partition without data loss
[06:45] <Zealot87> dooglus, yeah i posted it
[06:45] <sizzam> hui: ive only ever heard of doing that via 3rd party windows apps like "Partition Magic"
[06:46] <dooglus> hui: there's no guaranteed safe way.  you should back up anything you need.  then I think gtparted can do it.
[06:46] <tritium> Zealot87, it's in the topic
[06:46] <Zealot87> dooglus, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d3401
[06:46] <hui> eh, the top google says that i can do it graphically with partman
[06:46] <sizzam> hui, cool, i stand corrected
[06:46] <gilbert_> hui: i want that libgtk is mark by green not by red
[06:46] <dooglus> Zealot87: did you have to run a "mount" command to mount the drive before?
[06:46] <eazel7> cycom, j2re I think
[06:46] <gilbert_> i was confusing
[06:47] <Hobbsee> hui: you can do it with the ubuntu installer, too
[06:47] <hui> I quote: Ntfsresize utility non-destructively resizes the NTFS filesystem of Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows 2000, Windows NT4 and Windows Vista.
[06:47] <gilbert_> hui: help me
[06:47] <Zealot87> no i believe that i just ran that file
[06:47] <Zealot87> i might have :S
[06:47] <Hobbsee> hui: just make sure you hit resize partition instead of delete the entire disk
[06:47] <gilbert_> hui
[06:47] <nalioth> hui: use qtparted. it uses ntfsprogs
[06:47] <gilbert_> hui: i want that libgtk is mark by green not by red
[06:47] <dooglus> Zealot87: if you want it automatically mounted, put "auto," right before "rw" on that line.  no space between "auto," and "rw"
[06:47] <gilbert_> hui: i want that libgtk is mark by green not by red
[06:47] <gilbert_> help me
[06:48] <gilbert_> when i was install xmms
[06:48] <gilbert_> i check in synaptic
[06:48] <dooglus> Zealot87: the "auto" on the floppy line looks wrong to me too - there's a space between it and the 'rw'.   but then, I don't have a floppy drive, so I'm not sure.
[06:48] <gilbert_> has a broken packages
[06:48] <sn9> !tell sn9 about javadeb
[06:48] <hui> gilbert_ I don't understand
[06:48] <Thunderguy> cypa: maybe, j2re1.4
[06:48] <gilbert_> hui
[06:49] <gilbert_> help me
[06:49] <Zealot87> dooglus, i changed the mount point and look what came up when i tried sudo mount -a:
[06:49] <hui> I haven't really been using linux the last couple of years and I am just getting back into it.
[06:49] <gilbert_> i dont know how
[06:49] <Zealot87> dooglus, mount: mount point /media/040hdb1 does not exist
[06:49] <Hobbsee> gilbert_: have you tried updating your system first?
[06:49] <Zealot87> which is true actually
[06:49] <sn9> cypa: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt
[06:49] <Zealot87> heh
[06:49] <dooglus> Zealot87: you need to create the directoryu
[06:49] <cypa>  yeah
[06:49] <gilbert_> hobbsee
[06:49] <cypa> will try
[06:49] <gilbert_> how can i update
[06:49] <crazyman> do the debian instructions here apply to ubuntu? http://www.princessleia.com/UT.html
[06:49] <gilbert_> i hav a broken packages
[06:50] <Zealot87> dooglus, just creat a folder?
[06:50] <Hobbsee> gilbert_: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade - in a terminal, close synaptic first
[06:50] <joshua> Do the Ubuntu repos not have an azerus package?
[06:50] <dooglus> Zealot87: "sudo mkdir /media/whatever"
[06:50] <gilbert_> ic
[06:50] <gilbert_> ok i try it
[06:50] <gilbert_> wait
[06:50] <chris86wm> hey guys
[06:50] <sizzam> hey chris
[06:50] <Zealot87> dooglus, thanks for all your help!
[06:50] <gilbert_> in the root terminal
[06:51] <Hobbsee> gilbert_: if you're going to do it in a root terminal, you dont need to put sudo
[06:51] <bradd> hey folks.. is there a way to change the resolution of ubuntu's startup screen?
[06:51] <chris86wm> what is this "easy ubuntu" thing i keep hearing about? anyone know?
[06:51] <Hobbsee> !easyubuntu
[06:51] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Hobbsee
[06:51] <Hobbsee> chris86wm: ubuntuforums.org - search for it
[06:51] <dooglus> Zealot87: turns out "auto" is the default, so you don't have to add it.
[06:51] <mama> bihikjh;h;kh;oihgfifk
[06:51] <Hobbsee> chris86wm: has it in plenty of detail there, along with where it is, and all that, how people find it :)
[06:51] <mama> hvtff
[06:52] <bur[n] er> chris86wm: tis a scirp that does the things like java, flash, etc.
[06:52] <mama> hi..
[06:52] <chris86wm> well im looking at it, but for some reason people seem to hate it?
[06:52] <chris86wm> is there something wrong with it?
[06:52] <hui> Oh that wasn't so bad gilbert_
[06:52] <gilbert_> hi
[06:52] <gilbert_> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[06:52] <gilbert_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:52] <gilbert_>   g++: Depends: gcc (>= 4:3.3.5-1) but it is not installed
[06:52] <gilbert_>        Depends: gcc-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.5-1) but it is not installed
[06:52] <gilbert_>   g++-3.3: Depends: gcc-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2) but it is not installed
[06:52] <gilbert_>            Depends: gcc-3.3 (< 1:3.3.6) but it is not installed
[06:52] <gilbert_>   gcj: Depends: gcc (>= 4:3.3.5-1) but it is not installed
[06:52] <bur[n] er> chris86wm: look at the code, see ;)
[06:52] <gilbert_>   libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu1 4 is installed
[06:52] <gilbert_>   libglib2.0-data: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.6.3-1) but 2.6.4-1 is installed
[06:52] <gilbert_>   libgtk1.2: Depends: libgtk1.2-common (>= 1.2.10-17) but it is not installable
[06:52] <Hobbsee> gilbert_: pastebin!
[06:52] <gilbert_>   xmms: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is installed
[06:52] <gilbert_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[06:52] <Hobbsee> !tell gilbert_ about pastebin
[06:52] <gilbert_> what pastebin
[06:52] <ubuntu_> <hangs head in shame for asking> is there a way to mount my NTFS hard disk with Ubuntu Live 5.1?
[06:53] <bur[n] er> chris86wm: it's kind of just a hack job script iirc.  No real error checking, and it may break as breezy changes
[06:53] <gilbert_> yes i type apt-get update
[06:53] <tritium> gilbert_, no pasting
[06:53] <gilbert_> then apt-get upgrade
[06:53] <chris86wm> ah so it would be better to do all this manually?
[06:53] <Hobbsee> ubuntu_: http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/ch05.html#id3156054
[06:53] <Zealot87> dooglus, ok, now lets see if wine works
[06:53] <Zealot87> heh
[06:53] <gilbert_> how can repair that problem
[06:54] <gilbert_> hui
[06:54] <gilbert_> hobbesse
[06:54] <gilbert_> help me
[06:54] <hui> yeah?
[06:54] <gilbert_> i'am newbie
[06:54] <gilbert_> from philippines
[06:54] <ubuntu_> Muchas Gracia Hobbsee
[06:54] <gilbert_> when i try apt-get update
[06:54] <dooglus> Zealot87: I find red works best.
[06:54] <gilbert_> and apt-get upgrade
[06:54] <RezDawg> has anyone here try to use gimpshop on ubuntu?
[06:54] <gilbert_> hers the problen
[06:54] <Hobbsee> ubuntu_: no problem :)
[06:54] <gilbert_> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[06:54] <gilbert_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:54] <gilbert_>   g++: Depends: gcc (>= 4:3.3.5-1) but it is not installed
[06:54] <gilbert_>        Depends: gcc-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.5-1) but it is not installed
[06:54] <gilbert_>   g++-3.3: Depends: gcc-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2) but it is not installed
[06:54] <gilbert_>            Depends: gcc-3.3 (< 1:3.3.6) but it is not installed
[06:55] <gilbert_>   gcj: Depends: gcc (>= 4:3.3.5-1) but it is not installed
[06:55] <dooglus> lol
[06:55] <Hobbsee> gilbert, pastebin!
[06:55] <tritium> gilbert_, what did I just tell you?
[06:55] <Hobbsee> didnt you read what the bot sent you?
[06:55] <dooglus> !paste
[06:55] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:55] <Zealot87> dooglus, red??
[06:55] <Zealot87> dooglus, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d3402
[06:55] <Zealot87> something crashed hard core
[06:55] <dooglus> Zealot87: wine.
[06:56] <Zealot87> dooglus, hahahaha
[06:56] <dooglus> hey, it's better than being addicted to microsoft.
[06:56] <Zealot87> dooglus, oh I can agree on that! as long as you are referencing the beverage? just to be sure that i am not missing some real software thingy haha
[06:57] <hui> Hey whats pastebin, in some ways I'm a newbie too
[06:57] <ubuntuking> hello all
[06:57] <tritium> !tell hui about paste
[06:57] <dooglus> hui, it's a website where you can paste large amounts of text: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:57] <Hobbsee> !tell hui about pastebin
[06:57] <sizzam> hui:  its a url that you can paste large amounts of text into so you dont flood the room with it
[06:57] <dmlinux> any amaroK experts here?
[06:58] <Zealot87> is it possible to make exe files always open a terminal and enter "wine %n" or something??
[06:58] <dooglus> dmlinux: try #kubuntu
[06:58] <sizzam> xchat is the
[06:58] <sizzam> win
[06:58] <Zealot87> i use amaroK
[06:58] <Zealot87> on ubuntu though
[06:58] <joshua> What's the best package for bit torrent?  Bit tornado won't seem to work for me.
[06:58] <Zealot87> the one that comes preinstalled
[06:58] <crazyman> irssi is cool, I just don't feel comfortable with it for pms and multiple channels
[06:58] <tritium> best is a judgement call
[06:58] <dooglus> joshua: azureus is very good if you have a lot of memory, but it's not packaged.
[06:59] <joshua> dooglus: How hard would it be to install myself?
[06:59] <crazyman> so, as I was asking:
[06:59] <dooglus> crazyman: you can control-n and control-p between channels and pms
[06:59] <defcon8> does it mastter?
[06:59] <defcon8> its a kde app
[06:59] <dooglus> crazyman: or alt-1 alt-2 etc.
[06:59] <crazyman> ah
[06:59] <crazyman> hmmm
[06:59] <crazyman> brb
[06:59] <jdway_83> can anyone answer a question relating to mplayer and flashin ubuntu
[07:00] <sizzam> jdway_83: ask away
[07:00] <dooglus> jdway_83: possibly
[07:00] <hui> I hate to be stupid but how does gilbert_ use it. I mean I got it open in another window how does that help me/him/us
[07:01] <m0zone>  whats command to find uptime?
[07:01] <nalioth> m0zone: "uptime"
[07:01] <jdway_83> i recently installed mplayer througn the synaptic device manager and installed w32 codecs through the terminal prompt but now whenever I play a video on the net it is very choppy audio and visual
[07:01] <m0zone> doh lol
[07:01] <dooglus> hui: paste text in the 'text' area, then click 'send'
[07:01] <dooglus> m0zone: that wins the "question of the day" award I reckon :)
[07:02] <m0zone> yay  i mean nooo
[07:02] <bob2> jdway_83: then download it and try again
[07:02] <iiiears> "uptime" wide grin.
[07:02] <hui> I think firefox just died on me!
[07:02] <RezDawg> has anyone here try to use gimpshop on ubuntu?
[07:02] <hui> err is non-responsive
[07:02] <crazyman> thanks
[07:02] <zzzCHRISzzz> How do you spell "uptime"?   ;-)
[07:02] <dooglus> there's not many commands you could have chosen where the command is a proper word like that.
[07:02] <bradd> I just changed my grub (menu.1st) file.. how do I get grub to reinstall?
[07:02] <gpd> what do people use other than F-Spot for picture management (crashing in breezy)
[07:03] <jdway_83> i uninstalled all of the components and then reinstalled them and still the problem remained
[07:03] <blunted> ubotu, tell bradd about grub
[07:03] <nalioth> RezDawg: i do
[07:03] <dooglus> gpd: gqview?
[07:03] <bob2> jdway_83: of course, how would reinstalling packages magically fix it?
[07:03] <bob2> jdway_83: can you reproduce it with files on your local disk?
[07:03] <Hobbsee> hui: then you paste the link to the error along with the problem, instead of flooding the channel
[07:03] <iiiears> Hi bob2, nalioth. :)
[07:04] <nalioth> iiiears: howdy
[07:04] <nalioth> Hobbsee: howdy
[07:04] <hui> uboto, tell hui about grub
[07:04] <Hobbsee> hi nalioth :(
[07:04] <Hobbsee> *:)
[07:04] <bob2> iiiears: howdy
[07:04] <dooglus> jdway_83: try "mplayer -ao oss <file>" - does that fix it?
[07:04] <Hobbsee> oops...wrong key
[07:04] <inc595> anyone know how to get mad wifi drivers working in breezy after an upgrade ?
[07:04] <RezDawg> nalioth: i found this link, does this seem correct to you or...http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/
[07:04] <m0zone> i feel stupid now lol
[07:05] <joshua> I downloaded the package bittorrent.  What file launches it?
[07:05] <frank23> dmlinux: you can put bars where you want in kde too
[07:06] <bob2> inc595: "boot"
[07:06] <bob2> hotplug should load the
[07:06] <dooglus> joshua: there are several files you can run from the bittorrent package, as follows: btcompletedir.bittorrent btdownloadcurses.bittorrent btdownloadheadless.bittorrent btlaunchmany.bittorrent btlaunchmanycurses.bittorrent btmakemetafile.bittorrent btreannounce.bittorrent btrename.bittorrent btshowmetainfo.bittorrent bttrack.bittorrent
[07:06] <crazyman> as I was asking a while (apologies if it's been answered....I prolly wasn't here).....the debian instructions at http://www.princessleia.com/UT.html work for ubuntu right?
[07:06] <hui> joshua: applications->internet->gnome bittorrent
[07:06] <inc595> bob2, "boot" ??
[07:06] <iiiears> m0zone - Let me try to one up you... After using Windows for over 10 years do you think Bill Gates misses me after switcing to Ubuntu Linux? - lol?
[07:06] <dooglus> hui: I think that's a different package
[07:07] <sizzam> inc595:  check this out   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75451&highlight=madwifi
[07:07] <Whistler> hello
[07:07] <bob2> inc595: ?!?!?!?
[07:07] <Whistler> i have problems with my sources.list
[07:07] <Whistler> look here http://pastebin.com/400620
[07:07] <inc595> think that's the one i've read over and over lol
[07:07] <hui> oh yeah I guess so, what was I thinking
[07:07] <bob2> inc595: when you boot, hotplug loads drivers needed for usb and pci devices
[07:07] <sizzam> inc595:  k, just making sure
[07:07] <hui> maybe I should try and concentrate on my question
[07:08] <hui> how do I find a package for ubuntu
[07:08] <hui> ?
[07:08] <inc595> nah it doesn't
[07:08] <Whistler> hui use apt-get maybe
[07:08] <nalioth> RezDawg: that is the howto i followed for gimpshop
[07:08] <dmlinux> frank23 aye, but making the switch means i dont get all the cool windows, i like gnome
[07:08] <nalioth> RezDawg: it works great
[07:08] <hui> um graphically?
[07:08] <jdway_83> what do you mean when you say reproduce it with files on your local disk I have not had much experience with any OS outside of windows so unfortunately I am somewhat lost
[07:08] <nalioth> hui: use synaptic
[07:08] <inc595> that why i think it's the madwifi... It give and error when loading modprobe ath_pci
[07:08] <dazvid> hui, Synatpic is gui :)
[07:08] <dooglus> Whistler: there are no breezy backports yet.  comment those lines.
[07:09] <dazvid> hui, or use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:09] <sizzam> iiiears, mz0ne:   is it good for BIll Gates that I'm no longer stealing Windows, or bad for him that I'm no longer using his OS
[07:09] <hui> okay the package is partman but I did not see it listed
[07:09] <tritium> hui, or apt-cache search <searchterm>
[07:09] <bob2> inc595: define "doesn't"?
[07:09] <inc595> i'll read this article and go through it again
[07:09] <bob2> jdway_83: ? I mean, "if you download the file, does it play or not"?
[07:09] <nalioth> hui: are you still after partitioning things? use qtparted
[07:09] <iiiears> sizzam - pretty sure the adware/spyware removal companies are going to miss us.
[07:09] <rixth> Hey guys, I have a little niggling thing with the behaviour of file-roller in Ubuntu. Whenever you extract a zip, it makes a folder called *zip file name*_FILES then puts the content of the zip inside there. How can I make it NOT do that?
[07:09] <inc595> let me try get the exact error
[07:10] <bob2> inc595: you read dmesg, right?
[07:10] <spudse> I'm on OpenOffice 1.9.129 (beta 2.0) how can I upgrade to the new 2.0 ?
[07:10] <inc595> FATAL: Module ath_pcu not found
[07:10] <dooglus> hui: there's no partman package in ubunutu
[07:10] <inc595> ath_pci
[07:10] <rixth> Spudchat, apt-get install openoffer.orb-bin?
[07:10] <rixth> Erm, .org
[07:10] <hui> that explains why I couldn't find it.
[07:10] <inc595> yeah i can read it
[07:11] <dooglus> rixth: what kind of paths are in the .zip archive, or doesn't it matter?
[07:11] <hui> why qtparted I thought that qt was related to K and that Kde was not installed by default
[07:11] <hui> which is what I have installed, I am very defaulted right now
[07:11] <inc595> bob2, what am i looking for in dmsg...? hotplug?
[07:11] <rixth> dooglus, I just upgraded file-roller to Breezy and it works fine now. I quess I should make the entire push but its too big a download to get all upgraded packages. Bleh.
[07:11] <RezDawg> nalioth: thanks, im only few weeks into linux but i can follow scripts pretty good
[07:12] <spudse> rixth, what happens to my current OO 1.9 ?
[07:12] <rixth> spudse, There is only 1.1 in Breezy anyway.
[07:12] <dooglus> rixth: use 'shipit' - they'll mail you a cd for fre
[07:12] <dooglus> free
[07:12] <sizzam> rixth:  i highly recommend breezy.  its sooo much better than hoary (at least on my hardware)
[07:12] <hui> And I am doing this the idiot way in not backing up my data so I am a little concerned about not screwing this up.
[07:12] <rixth> spudse, if there was 2.0 in Breezy, it would be overwritten
[07:13] <meta> Anyone else got Coriander working on ubuntu? Or an iSight? need help
[07:13] <rixth> sizzam, I'm about 50/50 Hoary/Breezy here. I used shipit to get my Hoary discs. It is only 300mb or so, I should just leave it going overnight.
[07:13] <bob2> inc595: no, you're looking to read it
[07:13] <bob2> inc595: and look for mentions of your card
[07:13] <spudse> rixth, Im pretty sure I got 1.9 (2.0 beta) in breezy, didnt install anything
[07:14] <spudse> rixth, so I don't know if ubuntu will understand that I want to overwrite that one
[07:14] <admin_> grr my nick hung up
[07:14] <inc595> not in there... when i do lspci i see it
[07:15] <admin_> http://pastebin.com/400620
[07:15] <admin_> any help ?
[07:15] <hui> okay a little hand holding please, I got synaptic open.
[07:15] <rixth> spudse, apt-cache show openoffice.org-bin
[07:15] <rixth>  shows 1.1. "Version: 1.1.5-0ubuntu1
[07:15] <rixth> "
[07:15] <hui> I clicked on the search button in the button bar
[07:15] <crimsun> rixth: openoffice.org2
[07:15] <rixth> Opps, excuse the multiline paste!
[07:15] <inc595> sat ethernet controler: atheros communication inc ar5212
[07:15] <inc595> says^
[07:16] <rixth> crimsun, oh, thanks!
[07:16] <admin_> hello any1 can help me with http://pastebin.com/400620 ?
[07:16] <spudse> rixth, but the version that is installed on my system is 1.9
[07:17] <rixth> spudse, 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4
[07:17] <rixth>  is the newest version currently available (or so it seems) as an Ubuntu package
[07:17] <spudse> rixth I don't know, it was released yesterday
[07:17] <admin_> hello any1 can help me with http://pastebin.com/400620 ?
[07:18] <crimsun> admin_: there are no breezy-backports.
[07:18] <admin_> so why they are in my sources.list ?
[07:19] <crimsun> admin_: because there will be once dapper opens
[07:19] <admin_> so what should i do?
[07:19] <dooglus> I'm in .cz.  Why does archive.ubuntu.cz go via germany and sweden?
[07:20] <dooglus> archive.ubuntu.com pings faster than archive.ubuntu.cz from inside .cz
[07:20] <admin_> crimsun i changed it to hoary
[07:20] <admin_> but now i get W: GPG error: http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[07:20] <admin_> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[07:20] <crimsun> admin_: don't do that.
[07:20] <hui> Alright I am getting closer, there is no qtparted but I do have parted installed
[07:20] <admin_> so what should i do?
[07:20] <crimsun> admin_: change them back to breezy, but comment out the backport lines and update.
[07:21] !lilo:*! Some routing problems with Australian local, we did some tweaking and things seem stable atm.
[07:21] <sizzam> anybody have issues with FIrefox and webpages that have embedded videos?  sometimes my browser crashes just as the page starts to load
[07:21] <hui> however that does expressly say it can't handle resizing ntfs partitions
[07:21] !lilo:*! Affected users, about 250.
[07:21] <dazvid> sizzam, yes sometimes :)
[07:21] <crimsun> hui: that's because it relies on ntfsresize to do the work.
[07:21] <dazvid> Mostly .wmv files
[07:21] <sizzam> dazvid:  have you found any tricks to improve that at all
[07:21] <dooglus> hui: I only ever resized one NTFS partition.  I used a tool called "bootitng", which is shareware or some such, but free for the first month.
[07:21] <hui> But ntfsprogs is also installed and its descrip says that is ....exactly crimsun
[07:21] <dooglus> hui: it worked well, and very fast.
[07:22] <admin_> crimsun thx
[07:22] <admin_> :)
[07:22] <dazvid> sizzam, not yet, I have always just download the video file and used mplayer from console to watch them
[07:22] <hui> sizzam, are you loading wmv embedded content?
[07:22] <sizzam> dazvid:  Im using the MediaPlayerConnectivity extension
[07:23] <guidan> hi i just downloaded xml resumer maker but once its done i can't find it
[07:23] <guidan> any idea?
[07:23] <guidan> resume*
[07:23] <admin_> crimsun  i still get W: GPG error: http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> at the update manager
[07:24] <hui> quick aside I get no response from firefox how do I kill it?
[07:24] <Hobbsee> hui: alt f2, type xkill, click on firefox
[07:24] <hui> um, I mean kill it using graphical tools
[07:24] <thoreauputic> hui:  killall mozilla-firefox should do it :)
[07:24] <guidan> any help for me/
[07:25] <Madpilot> hui: clicking on the X button a couple of times should bring up the Kill App window
[07:25] <dooglus> hui: click it's X in the top right corner and wait a while?
[07:25] <Hobbsee> hui: that is graphical lol...run xkill, click on offending window!
[07:25] <thoreauputic> hui: there's an xkill applet for gnome - right click the panel to add it
[07:25] <thoreauputic> then you just click the applet and zap the offending app
[07:27] <hui> I am trying to navigate more graphically in Linux.
[07:27] <hui> More to see if it can be done than anything else
[07:27] <Xirdneh> hi there... can anyone help me?... is justa that i cant get my firefox or mozilla to load google pages... strange i make ping www.google.com and it does respond but if I type www.google.com or gmail.google.com in my mozilla or firefox is just dont load anything... it does load anyother webpage :s
[07:28] <hui> now that I know I have parted, how do I find it...since I can't find the icon
[07:28] <stbain> greetings all
[07:29] <Hobbsee> hui: alt+f2, parted?
[07:29] <Hobbsee> hi stbain
[07:29] <hui> smartalec...he says slapping himself in the forhead
[07:30] <hui> don't I have to sudo that or something?
[07:30] <Tomcat_> Xirdneh: Clear your Firefox cache, disable proxies... as the last thing, try creating a new profile.
[07:30] <concept10> is it just me but does gnome torrent just not work??
[07:30] <thoreauputic> hui: to be graphical, gksudo xterm -e parted :D
[07:30] <thoreauputic> heh
[07:31] <stbain> Has anyone run into  a problem with  us.archive.ubuntu.com resolving to 0.0.32.144 before? If so, how does one go about correcting the problem?
[07:31] <dazvid> concept10, I didnt like gnome bittorrent. Didnt have enough details and options :)
[07:31] <chiefofthejojos> concept, grome torrent does work
[07:31] <Xirdneh> TOmcat_ thnx let me try
[07:31] <chiefofthejojos> but, it doesn't give details, true
[07:31] <concept10> dazvid, chiefofthejojos: what are you guys using azureus?
[07:31] <dazvid> Yup
[07:31] <chiefofthejojos> no, i use gnome torrent
[07:32] <Myrtti> bittornado
[07:32] <chiefofthejojos> I like how light weight it is and I don't have the best system
[07:32] <concept10> 10 mins and it hasnt started the torrent
[07:32] <chiefofthejojos> maybe there aren't any seeders?
[07:32] <concept10> I think azureus is kinda bloated, but I guess I will go back to it
[07:33] <bluefoxicy> http://www.google.com/reviews/url?q=http://www.ew.com/ew/article/review/movie/0,6115,1120091_1_0_,00.html  Crashes firefox
[07:33] <hui> thoreaputic :  invalid option -- e
[07:34] <chiefofthejojos> bluefoxicy, doesn't crash for me, are you using gplflash?
[07:34] <cajones> anyone got realplayer working on a 64bit AMD system?
[07:35] <victor> hello all, does anyone know why Emacs and XEmacs are "white" in ubuntu? even in -nw mode! Can it be fixed?
[07:36] <mllr> what's the best choice in media player?
[07:37] <cajones> xmms has always worked well for me, for audio
[07:37] <Seveas> mllr, it's all about taste
[07:37] <Seveas> I'm quite fond of beep-media-player and totem
[07:37] <hui> thoreauputic: I think that it parsed the -e with gksudo and not with xterm?
[07:38] <galimon> can anyone give me a hand with reinstalling grub from a live cd? I'm getting Cound not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device
[07:38] <Garda> why can't i connect to irc.efnet.net
[07:38] <hui> given up on that anyway, I opened an xterm
[07:38] <thoreauputic> hui: my command was a kind of joke - parted is noy a gui app; you would need gparted or qtparted
[07:38] <fish> does anyone know anything about kxdocker?
[07:39] <thoreauputic> s/noy/not
[07:39] <thoreauputic> hui: to run a terminal app from a new term you use the -e for execute flag
[07:40] <thoreauputic> e.g xterm -e alsamixer
[07:40] <hui> very funny ha ha
[07:40] <ce_smu> hello
[07:41] <thoreauputic> hui: I thought so - glad you enjoyed my joke :D
[07:41] <hui> either this used to be easier or I used to have more patience
[07:41] <kkathman> when I upgraded to breezy I seem to have lost all the colors on the console...how would I get those back?
[07:41] <victor> any Lispers around?
[07:42] <tarheelcoxn> kkathman: have you looked at your bashrc?
[07:42] <sazwerx> how to make my VI colourfull?
[07:42] <Seveas> :syntax on
[07:42] <kkathman> tarheelcoxn: nope...what should I look for?
[07:42] <kkathman> and why would breezy lose the colors?
[07:42] <hui> so none of K is installed by default
[07:42] <tarheelcoxn> kkathman: no idea
[07:42] <kkathman> I'll check
[07:43] <tarheelcoxn> kkathman: you're talking about colors for things like ls, yes?
[07:43] <valdyn> kkathman: you once edited /etc/bashrc and chose to replace that with the new default one in the new bash package
[07:43] <hui> there is no package for qtparted or gparted!
[07:43] <kkathman> tarheelcoxn: yes
[07:43] <sadr> Hey ! anybody noticed Ubuntu imitation here? http://spaces.msn.com/  ;-)
[07:43] <Seveas> sadr, only about 5 gazillion people...
[07:43] <dazvid> hui, yes there is :)
[07:44] <kkathman> valdyn: and because I edited that file it overwrote it?
[07:44] <dazvid> What repos do you have enabled?
[07:44] <Seveas> !info gparted
[07:44] <ubotu> gparted: (partition editor for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.8+cvs2005061901-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 1260 kB
[07:44] <Seveas> !info qtparted
[07:44] <ubotu> qtparted: (A parted frontend using QT), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.4-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 195 kB, Installed size: 712 kB
[07:44] <Seveas> gparted is in main even...
[07:44] <valdyn> kkathman: no, b/c you chose to overwrite it when asked
[07:44] <mllr> what's the best choice in media player? Ok, I'm looking for something that supports a wide range of codecs and file formats.
[07:44] <tarheelcoxn> kkathman: if you just pull up a command line and 'less .bashrc' I'm sure you'll find something you can edit to give you the colors you want
[07:44] <diabolus> anyone here knows how  to tweak a 3dfx for better display??
[07:44] <valdyn> kkathman: if you had not modified it, then you wouldnt even have been asked
[07:44] <guidan> mllr: xmms
[07:45] <Seveas> diabolus, remove it and put in an nvidia card ;)
[07:45] <hui> dazvid: I searched for both in synaptic and didn't find it?
[07:45] <iiiears> Seveas. - lol - that was mean
[07:45] <kkathman> valdyn: I wasnt asked that I know of when I upgraded from Hoary
[07:46] <diabolus> Seveas give me an nvidia card... with VGA out, ANT in, S-Videio OUT/IN and Composite OUT/IN
[07:46] <tarheelcoxn> kkathman: did you update via synaptic?
[07:46] <iiiears> newegg.com has some pci cards for less than $0
[07:46] <valdyn> kkathman: hmm, if that was true then that was a bug  i suppose, config files aren't supposed to be overwritten like that
[07:46] <iiiears> erm $0
[07:46] <tarheelcoxn> iiiears: o.0
[07:46] <dazvid> hui, I searched and found them both
[07:46] <iiiears> lol - 40
[07:46] <tarheelcoxn> lol
[07:46] <valdyn> kkathman: now if synaptic did that, i wouldnt know, i dont use it
[07:46] <kkathman> tarheelcoxn: nope I just did a typical update and dist-upgrade
[07:46] <Seveas> diabolus :)
[07:47] <iiiears> xchat is swallowing  the dollar sign
[07:47] <kkathman> I didnt either valdyn :)
[07:47] <Seveas> it's 7:46 am here, I probably should not try to help
[07:47] <hui> my list goes from gossip to gthumb
[07:47] <hui> did they change the alphabet when I wasn't looking?
[07:47] <LSD> less than $0?
[07:47] <tarheelcoxn> kkathman: you're not logged in to your X session as root for some reason, are you?
[07:47] <tarheelcoxn> because that would kill the colors
[07:48] <kkathman> tarheelcoxn: no
[07:48] <kkathman> Im under KDE right now, under my own name
[07:48] <LSD> iiiears: link?
[07:48] <Xanthus7> So what have they improved in 5.10 ubuntu
[07:48] <iiiears> i can't explain it but xchat is ignoring  anything after a dollar sign
[07:48] <kkathman> so I need to change the bashrc in my /home/name
[07:48] <iiiears> newegg.com
[07:49] <tarheelcoxn> kkathman: that would be my guess
 Im under KDE right now <-- whn are you going through detox? ;)
[07:49] <cajones> $6.02 * 10^23
[07:49] <Seveas> !6.02 * 10**23
[07:49] <ubotu> 601999999999999928696832
[07:49] <LSD> no link to the actual item plz
[07:49] <tarheelcoxn> Seveas: just full of jibes tonight, aren't we?
[07:49] <LSD> i visit newegg everycouple of days
[07:49] <LSD> is $0 after rebate?
[07:49] <kkathman> Seveas: ??
[07:50] <cajones> !lower price of oil worldwide
[07:50] <ubotu> Wish i knew, cajones
[07:50] <Xanthus7> Any using a Epox 8kda3j motherboard
[07:51] <hui> dazvid: can you think of any reason why I didn't ( other than I'm an idiot, I'm not I swear)
[07:51] <kkathman> ok so I updated my bashrc.. do I need to logg off and back on?
[07:51] <kkathman> probably so
[07:52] <brownie17> i just updated to breezy, and it does not look even in the slightest little bit different, why is this?
[07:52] <nalioth> brownie17: not even the "slightest" little bit?
[07:52] <hui> kkathman: (there is a way to reread your bash file with out relogging on but is easier to just logout and back in.
[07:52] <bthayward> does anyone know if TCP/IP over ethernet is possible with ubuntu?
[07:53] <brownie17> nalioth, cannot tell at all. seriously. NOTHING
[07:53] <dooglus> brownie17: not ever different wallpaper?
[07:53] <HrdwrBoB> bthayward: what the...
[07:53] <MOSMarauder> .new version of Avidemux 2.1 ... Step3
[07:53] <highvoltage> bthayward: yes :)
[07:53] <MOSMarauder> use  "./configure --with-jsapi-include=/usr/include/smjs/ --with-newfaad" on Breezy to compile (if installed all nessesary sources)
[07:53] <tarheelcoxn> brownie17: it was beautiful to begin with?
[07:53] <cajones> hehe
[07:53] <brownie17> dooglus, nalioth nope. then i went to synpatic and smart upgrade tells me there are still 700 meg of updates to do
[07:54] <cajones> on a dial-up?
[07:54] <hui> Seriously people I can't find it when I search for it do I need to reload a db or something?
[07:54] <bthayward> highvoltage: how?
[07:54] <kkathman> I found the issue
[07:54] <highvoltage> bthayward: ping 127.0.0.1?
[07:54] <dazvid> hui, have a look in your synaptic > settings >repositories. Are they all enabled?
[07:54] <nalioth> brownie17: open a terminal and type "cat /etc/issue"
[07:54] <kkathman> hui:  thanks...I got it   source .bashrc
[07:54] <kkathman> works now
[07:54] <kkathman> thanks
[07:55] <bthayward> im sorry, i miss typed that.  I want to do TCP/IP over firewire
[07:55] <highvoltage> bthayward: ah, ok. entire different question then :)
[07:55] <hui> okay, I take it back, I am an idiot. I just figured out I didn't have ntfsprogs installed. it's installed now
[07:55] <brownie17> nalioth, Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l. it obviously didn't work at all!
[07:56] <hui> but that still does not explain why I can't find gparted when I search for it and yinz can
[07:56] <nalioth> hui: qtparted should have pulled in ntfsprogs when you installed it
[07:56] <nalioth> brownie17: try again
[07:56] <hui> I can't find qtparted when I search for it in synaptic
[07:57] <brownie17> nalioth, darn. took all night to downloading
[07:58] <tarheelcoxn> I'm running a process that I want to move to a screen session
[07:58] <tarheelcoxn> can I do that?
[07:58] <tarheelcoxn> that is, can I CTRL-z and then pull up screen and then restart the process from there and then detach?
[07:58] <Sirrush> !ping
[07:58] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, sirrush.
[07:58] <hui> I can't find qtparted when I search for it in synaptic <-- any ideas why?
[07:59] <tarheelcoxn> hui: use aptitude
[07:59] <Seveas> tarheelcoxn, no, you should start screen first...
[07:59] <tarheelcoxn> Seveas: well darn
[07:59] <tarheelcoxn> 's what I thought
[07:59] <tarheelcoxn> I was hoping there was a way around it
[07:59] <tarheelcoxn> can anybody else get to http://folding.stanford.edu/ ?
[08:00] <niels_> all: in the process of downloading realplayer... which directory should i save it in???
[08:00] <iiiears> hui - Enable "Universe Community Supported" in synaptic repositories
[08:00] <hui> ubotu, tell hui about aptitude
[08:00] <bimberi> bthayward: it should be possible, I've got TCP/IP going over USB to an iPAQ handheld, (instructions for doing that were on handhelds.org)
[08:00] <Seveas> tarheelcoxn, yeah
[08:00] <highvoltage> what codec do i need to play shuttleworth_zimmerman_band.avi?
[08:00] <Seveas> works fine heere
[08:01] <Seveas> highvoltage, sunglasses :)
[08:01] <tarheelcoxn> darn... must be more Cogent/Level3 fallout
[08:01] <alekz> what's that think that is just launched: Http Cache Remover something like that
[08:01] <highvoltage> Seveas: :)
[08:02] <tarheelcoxn> ... or something
[08:02] <niels_> i wear my sunglasses at night...
[08:02] <diabolus> :)
[08:02] <alekz> netsplit
[08:02] <alekz> :s
[08:02] <stbain> nite all
[08:02] <Seveas> when will freenode ever work...
[08:04] <tarheelcoxn> Seveas: when you start donating to the PDPC
[08:04] <tarheelcoxn> :P
[08:04] <iiiears> IRC has always been a bit shakey. - too many young 7337 HAX0rs.  :/
[08:04] <alekz> what's that think that is just launched: Http Cache Remover something like that ?
[08:04] <tarheelcoxn> teat!
[08:04] <Seveas> tarheelcoxn, ah, so at the 12th of never :)
[08:04] <tarheelcoxn> you said teat!
[08:04] <DShepher1> hey guys is there a irc for openffice...sorry to be off topic
[08:04] <niels_> in the process of downloading realplayer to breezy... which directory should i save it in
[08:05] <lawrence> who here uses Pocket PC with Ubuntu?
[08:05] <Madpilot> DShepher1: #openoffice.org
[08:05] <thoreauputic> DShepher1: are you serious? :D
[08:05] <DShepher1> Madpilot: thanks
[08:05] <thoreauputic> oh I see... hahah - I thought you meant a built in IRC client...
[08:06] <niels_> all: in the process of downlaoding realplayer to breezy... which directory should i save it in???
[08:06] <tarheelcoxn> Seveas: was it you who was able to see folding.stanford.edu?
[08:06] <Seveas> yes
[08:06] <Trashcan> humm
[08:07] <thoreauputic> niels_: doesn't matter much - $HOME dir is fine
[08:07] <bthayward> Is TCP/IP over firewire possible with ubuntu?
[08:07] <bthayward> highvoltage: sorry, that was a complete typo
[08:07] <tarheelcoxn> could you tell me if I can just kill the process with CTRL-c and then restart it without causing it to lose data?
[08:07] <tarheelcoxn> like, more than 5 minutes' worth
[08:07] <Seveas> from demon nl via cogent to stanford
[08:08] <hui> I thought everybody said High voltage == bad
[08:08] <Seveas> no level3 involved here
[08:08] <niels_> thoreauputic: thanks...
[08:12] <tarheelcoxn> Seveas: why can't I see them?
[08:12] <Seveas> and thare they blow again
[08:12] <Seveas> tarheelcoxn, 'them'?
[08:12] <Seveas> folding.s.u?
[08:12] <dazvid> Well then :)
[08:12] <aftertaf> where'd you al go then???? :] 
[08:12] <Seveas> try a tracepath and see where it b0rks
[08:12] <tarheelcoxn> Seveas: correct
[08:13] <poningru> someone
[08:13] <poningru> quick
[08:13] <poningru> say something
[08:13] <aftertaf> lol
[08:13] <tarheelcoxn> or just plain stanford.edu for that matter
[08:13] <nnonix> jmonter: try "sudo -s" and give it your pass. Your prompt should then change to root.
[08:13] <Seveas> fucking freenode fevers....
[08:13] <tarheelcoxn> no kidding
[08:13] <muszek> leaving, bye
[08:13] <neotrophy> I'll repeat the question, since there's been all that joining and stuf... I need a 32 bit version of zlib for a program that I want to run on my AMD64 machine.  I've tried building it from source with CFLAGS="-march=i386 -m32", but it doesn't seem to be able to link libc when I do that.  Anyone know a good way to get a 32 bit zlib on my machine?
[08:13] <omer> I've got a messege about ubuntu guide. Where is the !faq, in the site?
[08:13] <electron> hi
[08:13] <auk> wtf why now
[08:13] <poningru> !info build-essential
[08:13] <aftertaf> lol
[08:13] <poningru> ubotu: build essential
[08:13] <aftertaf> he's on strike poningru
[08:13] <aftertaf> :] 
[08:13] <poningru> gaah
[08:13] <Seveas> !faq
[08:13] <Seveas> ubotu, faq
[08:13] <Seveas> damn you bot-head!
[08:13] <tarheelcoxn> auk: the netsplit gods are restless
[08:13] <tarheelcoxn> lol
[08:13] <iiiears> If you guys overseas have monthly  D/L limits or slow connections. Having an install corruped by inexperience or exploit has got to be a tragedy.  Why isn't there a good RSYNC script or backup utility included?  (restore parttion?)
[08:13] <electron> Has anyone ran the PsyBNC server on Ubuntu?
[08:13] <electron> I am just wondering if there is a apt source of I have to just get the source and compile it myself
[08:13] <greg__> when there is a fresh ubuntu install, does it take a bit before the dns and stuff is working?
[08:13] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[08:13] <ubotu> poningru: Not a clue
[08:13] <ubotu> faq is probably The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[08:14] <auk> terheelcoxn; i wasnt' talkign aobu tfreenode
[08:14] <electron> Has anyone ran the PsyBNC server on Ubuntu?
[08:14] <electron> I am just wondering if there is a apt source of I have to just get the source and compile it myself
[08:14] <Ex-Cyber> did the Internet just break? EFNet is splitting too apparently
[08:14] <Ex-Cyber> and I can't seem to connect to most websites
[08:14] <Ex-Cyber> heh
[08:14] <iiiears> zombie armies on the march..
[08:14] <seethru> omg the sky is falling
[08:14] <tarheelcoxn> this is the last hop when I try to get to www.stanford.edu: 11  FranceTelecom.atdn.net (66.185.139.198)  25.325 ms  27.279 ms  25.982 ms
[08:14] <hui> bahh humbug, two hours and nothing accomplished
[08:14] <hui> well almost nothing.
[08:14] <hui> nite all
[08:15] <tarheelcoxn> hui: what are you trying to do?
[08:15] <tarheelcoxn> orrrr g'night
[08:15] <hui> reparition ntfs
[08:15] <hui> non destructively
[08:15] <tarheelcoxn> ack
[08:15] <tarheelcoxn> good luck tomorrow
[08:15] <auk> poningru, mozilla servers are not up?
[08:15] <auk> omg io can't get google
[08:16] <iiiears> hui qtparted is the tool you want. 2 good places to find it on a bootable CD knoppix and better the ultimate RESCUE CD
[08:16] <thoreauputic> the breezy live CD has gparted I noticed
[08:17] <iiiears> gparted is workable
[08:17] <hui> well actually I finally got to the point to where synaptic got it for me.
[08:17] <hui> I guess I shouldn't complain, not possible to even do in windows
[08:17] <hui> at least not on my budget.
[08:20] <AlphaFaction> Curious, usto be able to send messages in gaim over msn while appearing offline, now i get a message telling me it cant send while I'm invisible, anyone know what caused this?
[08:20] <Madpilot> wheee... surf the giant netsplit...
[08:21] <iiiears> bad net weather
[08:21] <dooglus> it should be 4755
[08:21] <dooglus> AlphaFaction: I would guess that it's a change on the MSN servers, but I don't know
[08:21] <mcquaid> hello is there a keyboard overlay type program so you can type letters with the mouse?
[08:21] <mcquaid> for gnome or kde?
[08:21] <immolo> gok
[08:22] <darknature> how do i install opera on unbuntu
[08:22] <Ex-Cyber> AlphaFaction: the Internet seems to be broken at the moment
[08:22] <Ex-Cyber> at least from my end
[08:22] <RezDawg> wow this channel usually isnt is quite
[08:22] <Madpilot> darknature: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[08:22] <dooglus> mcquaid: gok - GNOME Onscreen Keyboard
[08:22] <dooglus> gok-doc - documentation files for the GNOME Onscreen Keyboard
[08:22] <Madpilot> RezDawg: splits and lagging make actual conversation difficult...
[08:22] <Ex-Cyber> I've seen splits both here and on EFNet, and am having intermittent trouble with connecting to websites, both in terms of DNS lookups and in terms of connecting
[08:22] <Ex-Cyber> all starting about the same time
[08:23] <aftertaf> webquake
[08:23] <GoRoDeK> anyone can enter: http://www.wikipedia.de/ ?
[08:23] <Myrtti_> nope
[08:23] <Myrtti_> wikipedias are down
[08:23] <Madpilot> Ex-Cyber: the web is falling! the web is falling!
[08:23] <Myrtti_> all of them
[08:23] <ColonelKernel> yeah my dns is slow and crappy too
[08:23] <GoRoDeK> Myrtti_, ok thx for looking :)
[08:23] <neotrophy> I need a 32 bit version of zlib for a program that I want to run on my AMD64 machine.  I've tried building it from source with CFLAGS="-march=i386 -m32", but it doesn't seem to be able to link libc when I do that.  Anyone know a good way to get a 32 bit zlib on my machine? (I know I'm repeating this, but all these splits make me uncertain if anyone who might no the answer may have seen this)
[08:23] <Myrtti_> GoRoDeK: actually I tried fi.wiki, but the error message is the same I presume
[08:24] <mcquaid> thx dooglus
[08:24] <Myrtti_> TheDiff: it's the karma
[08:24] <JustSteve> hey, prolly not the place for it, but i have'nt connected to anything else, is yahoo messenger down for anyone else?
[08:24] <TheDiff> what karma?
[08:24] <Ex-Cyber> JustSteve: someone reported some weirdness a few minutes ago
[08:24] <Myrtti_> TheDiff: bad one
[08:24] <Myrtti_> we haven't been nice enough to each other
[08:24] <TheDiff> i dont even know what we are talking about right now
[08:25] <TheDiff> where am i
[08:25] <JustSteve> alright i was online and then everything connected to yahoo disconnected and then timed out on a reconnect
[08:25] <aftertaf> JustSomeone:  webquake!!
[08:25] <TheDiff> yeah
[08:25] <TheDiff> the internet is destroying itself
[08:25] <thoreauputic> bimberi: just don't use the MS lightsabre - it asks you if you *really* want to use it every 5 seconds
[08:25] <tarheelcoxn> TheDiff: you're n=TheDiff@adsl-66-122-72-167.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net
[08:25] <JustSteve> if yahoo fell off the interwebs would that be such a bad thing?
[08:25] <aftertaf> lol thoreauputic
[08:25] <thoreauputic> bimberi: and requires regular reboots
[08:25] <TheDiff> oh
[08:26] <TheDiff> thanks for that
[08:26] <darknature> anyone have a link to wget opera from?
[08:26] <TheDiff> karma will pWn you
[08:26] <Madpilot> darknature: check that URL I posted for you a few minutes ago, I think it's got a current URL...
[08:26] <JustSteve> you can get opera from their website, it's free now
[08:26] <darknature> ooh ok
[08:26] <Madpilot> darknature: scrub that, the Ubuntu wiki seems to be down. sorry
[08:26] <darknature> i didn't notice it
[08:27] <ColonelKernel> ahhh level3
[08:27] <darknature> yeah i see that now
[08:27] <JustSteve> http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?distro=ubuntu&id=27337%2C27335&location=155&sub=++++&x=100&y=11
[08:27] <darknature> ahh oh well
[08:27] <Sirrush> Hey guys any ideas not getting grub to install on MBR for Breezy?
[08:27] <ColonelKernel> that makes sense - I think charter uses level3
[08:27] <tarheelcoxn> Sirrush: are you trying to install grub and failing?
[08:28] <tarheelcoxn> or are you wanting to install lilo?
[08:28] <darknature> thanks juststeve
[08:28] !lilo:*! I'm told level3 is having peering problems, which I guess should be no surprise. I've also been given http://scoreboard.keynote.com/scoreboard/Main.aspx?Login=Y&Username=public&Password=public by two sources, but can't reach it from my current location. If you have some alternate url, please message me. Thanks.
[08:28] !lilo:*! It appears very clear this is a fairly global issue.
[08:28] <corincole> hey all
[08:28] <corincole> can anyone help me wih wine?
[08:29] <Sirrush> tarheelcoxn,  Nope I want to install Breezy on my machine for college ( I am doing a class on linux) and due to our configuration we are not supposed to overwrite the MBR
[08:29] <Phr0zenKore> omfg, major headache after doing some TK
[08:29] <Phr0zenKore> oops, wrong channel
[08:29] <Phr0zenKore> xD
[08:29] <Sirrush> In my installs ( 3 of them ) of breezy I have never been prompted where I wanted grub
[08:29] <Sirrush> it's just installed to mbr automatically
[08:30] <corincole> can anyone help me very quickly with WINE?
[08:30] <corincole> :)
[08:30] <JustSteve> on install i am always asked where i want grub
[08:30] <im_addicted19> hi to all
[08:30] <Sirrush> This occured with rc and breezy the official aswell
[08:30] <thoreauputic> corincole: I recommend a robust Burgundy
[08:30] <pef> hello
[08:30] <Sirrush> I asked a couple of people they said the same thing aswell
[08:30] <im_addicted19> can anyone teach me ?????
[08:30] <im_addicted19> can anyone teach me ?????
[08:30] <tarheelcoxn> Sirrush: you may want to try a chroot
[08:30] <neotrophy> corincole: what's the problem?  I may be able to help with some more info
[08:31] <Trashcan> im_addicted19 : teach you what??? teach you what???
[08:31] <thoreauputic> Trashcan: punctuation perhaps ;)
[08:31] <im_addicted19> how to make chat with others
[08:31] <im_addicted19> how to make chat with others
[08:32] !lilo:*! Someone kindly provided a screenshot of scoreboard, and apparently the only thing level3 is talking to without problems is, well, level3 8)
[08:32] <corincole> neotrophy?
[08:32] <corincole> are you getting my PMs?
[08:32] <Sirrush> tarheelcoxn,  and I can run this during the install
[08:33] <tarheelcoxn> Sirrush: you wouldn't install from the CD if you wanted a chroot'ed install
[08:33] <neotrophy> corincole: Can't message back ATM... Just fixing that up
[08:33] <corincole> ok
[08:33] <corincole> did you read it though?
[08:34] <corincole> or shall I paste it hear?
[08:34] <corincole> here*
[08:34] <nalioth> corincole: please dont paste in here
[08:34] <redeeman> anyone that knows why ubuntu only uses ndiswrapper 1.1?
[08:35] <benplaut> my mouse cursor just froze after playing a game... how can i restart the mouse daemon?
[08:35] <tarheelcoxn> Sirrush: follow these instructions, substituting breezy repos, etc. for the debian ones in the instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en
[08:35] <sazwerx> what is the command if i wanna know the manual of some C statement like gets, fgets, etc.. ?
[08:35] <Sirrush> tarheelcoxn, interesting I'll have to do some reading then
[08:36] <paulproteus> sazwerx: man fgets
[08:36] <Sirrush> tarheelcoxn,  excellent comming through with the goods
[08:36] <sazwerx> paulproteus, No manual entry for fgets
[08:36] <paulproteus> sazwerx: Install the packages called man-pages or man-pages-dev .
[08:36] <sazwerx> paulproteus, ok
[08:37] <nalioth> RezDawg: you having luck with that walkthrough?
[08:37] <Sirrush> Now only prob... hrm
[08:37] <Sirrush> If I can do an NFS install this might work
[08:37] <RezDawg> nalioth: well my internet is on the fritz
[08:38] <TheDiff> RezDawg: everyones is
[08:38] <TheDiff> Level 3 is owning stuff
[08:38] <RezDawg> TheDiff: aaah
[08:38] <bur[n] er> anyone knwo why "evolution-exchange-storage" process won't die and stay dead when I kill it?  I don't even have evolution running
[08:38] <Sirrush> tarheelcoxn,  I'm just wondering if this is a bug or not as Hoarary did not have this happen it prompted as did Debian Sarge where to install grub during the install process
[08:38] <paulproteus> http://scoreboard.keynote.com/scoreboard/Main.aspx?Login=Y&Username=public&Password=public - the "freenode effect" crashed this thing...
[08:38] <Madpilot> TheDiff: who/what is Level3?
[08:38] <tarheelcoxn> Sirrush: debootstrap is available from breezy repos, btw
[08:39] <sazwerx> paulproteus, Couldn't find package man-pages
[08:39] <tarheelcoxn> Sirrush: not sure. ask a MotU
[08:39] <Sirrush> MotU?
[08:39] <tarheelcoxn> Madpilot: Level3 is a tier 1 provider
[08:39] <tarheelcoxn> Sirrush: Master of the Universe
[08:39] <paulproteus> sazwerx: manpages-dev is the right name.
[08:39] <tarheelcoxn> one of the people who manages the official ubuntu repos
[08:39] <jitsumi> Hello! How do I get a menu that shows ALL my installed applications? I`ve been able to do this before, but can not remember how I did it. And I can not find info about this in the forums... help?
[08:39] <sH4> H i
[08:40] <TheDiff> Madpilot: Level3 is some router/switch company that handles the ip backbone
[08:40] <tarheelcoxn> Madpilot: they own a large chunk of the internet's infrastructure
[08:40] <Sirrush> See tarheelcoxn  I cannot install from a linux to linux
[08:40] <sazwerx> paulproteus, thanks, bro
[08:40] <paulproteus> sazwerx: My pleasure. :)
[08:40] <tarheelcoxn> Sirrush: sure you can. boot from an ubuntu liveCD
[08:40] <Sirrush> It either will be CD or FTP
[08:40] <Sirrush> Right I can do that
[08:41] <Sirrush> I didn't know if I would run into any problems though
[08:41] <Sirrush> hrm..
[08:41] <tarheelcoxn> best of luck
[08:41] <Sirrush> I am already running ubuntu 5.04 for my first machine
[08:41] <Sirrush> thanks tarheelcoxn
[08:41] <tarheelcoxn> np
[08:41] <Sirrush> ya gave me some good ideas
[08:41] <tarheelcoxn> g'night!
[08:41] <tarheelcoxn> :)
[08:41] <neotrophy> I need a 32 bit version of zlib for a program that I want to run on my AMD64 machine.  I've tried building it from source with CFLAGS="-march=i386 -m32", but it doesn't seem to be able to link libc when I do that.  Anyone know a good way to get a 32 bit zlib on my machine?
[08:45] <benplaut> thoreauputic: i think the spam bots are back...
[08:46] <vader1102> I dom
[08:46] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[08:46] <thoreauputic> benplaut: look like it
[08:46] <benplaut> ^^
[08:46] <topyli> mmm... spam
[08:46] <benplaut> bleh... salty :P
[08:47] <vader1102> same here
[08:48] <vader1102> I am surprised, there has been no breezy updates in a few days
[08:48] <thoreauputic> the bots are getting smarter and somehow avoiding the bot trap #ubuntu-unregged it seems
[08:48] <jbroome> vader1102: that's due to excellent bug squashing before release. :)
[08:48] <vader1102> I know, still surprised
[08:48] <topyli> vader1102: that's good updates mean there are problems :)
[08:49] <norskfjord> Creating Menu, please wait.
[08:49] <norskfjord> This needs the curses library. If it is not available, menuconf wont work.
[08:49] <aftertaf> or, no updates means there are big problems that take time to be fixed ;)
[08:49] <norskfjord> how do I install it?
[08:49] <theblahjimmy> hello guysa
[08:49] <theblahjimmy> im trying to install ubuntu 5.10 onto my XP system, but when it starts to load the first file, it hangs and gives me a hard drive error
[08:50] <aftertaf> norskfjord:  sudo apt-get install  libncurses5-dev
[08:50] <dazvid> Where does the abs-guide get installed to? or rather, how do I read it?
[08:50] <theblahjimmy> then restarts, over and over again
[08:50] <topyli> aftertaf: or that there will be 120M "critical update" every 6 months like, uhh... some company's policy goes
[08:50] <norskfjord> thanks
[08:51] <aftertaf> theblahjimmy:  md5 checksum your iso, reburn at low speed, remove all but one RAM to test, and maybe HD is on its way out
[08:51] <RezDawg> gimp depends on libtiff3g; however:
[08:51] <RezDawg>   Package libtiff3g is not installed.
[08:51] <aftertaf> topyli:  :P yeah true !!!
[08:51] <theblahjimmy> yah i actually think im just gonna buy a new frickin HD, they are cheap anyhow
[08:51] <sazwerx> i'm trying to instal Gaim, but it says *** GLib 2.0 is required to build Gaim; please make sure you have the GLib
[08:51] <aftertaf> sazwerx:  compiling yourself?
[08:52] <bradd> hey guys.. I seem to be missing libc.so .. I do a 'apt-get install libc6' and itsez its installed but find doesnt find any 'libc.so' any ideas?
[08:52] <norskfjord> also, how do I uninstall gnome?
[08:52] <sazwerx> yup
[08:52] <theblahjimmy> irs just sorta wierd, cuz the LIVE cd works just fine
[08:52] <norskfjord> it auto installed gnome, I just want console
[08:52] <sazwerx> aftertaf, is there the .deb file?
[08:52] <aftertaf> norskfjord:  uninstall gnome? what you replacing with?
[08:52] <theblahjimmy> you shoulda used expert mode dood
[08:52] <aftertaf> sazwerx:  yep. sudo apt-get install  gaim
[08:52] <popey> norskfjord: you could reinstall in "server" mode or use the new ubuntu-server cd instead?
[08:52] <RezDawg> nalioth: ill have to wait for another day
[08:53] <aftertaf> norskfjord:  or you remove xorg
[08:53] <cafuego_> bradd: Yes. 'ls /lib/libc*'
[08:53] <norskfjord> aftertaf, I don't want a Window Manager, I'ts a gateway
[08:53] <sazwerx> aftertaf, what version? the latest? 1.5?
[08:53] <aftertaf> sazwerx:  no idea....
[08:53] <aftertaf> !info gaim
[08:53] <ubotu> gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 814 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB
[08:53] <cafuego_> bradd: If libc was missing, you wouldn't be using ANY commands on that machine.
[08:53] <nalioth> RezDawg: that walkthrough is very good
[08:53] <sazwerx> aftertaf, but i'm using hoary
[08:53] <aftertaf> norskfjord:  then remove xorg & gnome.
[08:53] <theblahjimmy> would it matter if my current file system is WinFS? or does that mean anything?
 also, how do I uninstall gnome?
[08:54] <aftertaf> theblahjimmy:  vista?
[08:54] <bradd> ok, well my real problem is that when I gcc a file I get '/usr/bin/ld crt1.o no such file'
[08:54] <theblahjimmy> no, just the newest XP file system
[08:54] <RezDawg> nalioth: it said if i had gimp installed i prolly wouldnt have to do more work but libtiff3g isnt on my box
[08:54] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get remove gnome
[08:54] <aftertaf> theblahjimmy:  winfs is out?????
[08:54] <aftertaf> sazwerx:  1.4 in hoary
[08:55] <theblahjimmy> i guess im thinking to far ahead, lol
[08:55] <theblahjimmy> what was the file system that came out with XP?
[08:55] <gpogo> ntfs?
[08:55] <aftertaf> ntfs
[08:55] <theblahjimmy> yes!
[08:55] <theblahjimmy> lol, my bad
[08:55] <aftertaf> but it came out way before that
[08:55] <jbroome> ntfs was out with w2k
[08:55] <aftertaf> ntfs shouldnt do that, the installer will help you reduce partition.
[08:55] <aftertaf> jbroome:  before that even
[08:56] <sazwerx> aftertaf, yup.. in hoary 1.1.4.. but the latest released is 1.5 (at sourceforge), and i wanna use it.. how?
[08:56] <benplaut> is it just me, or did ubuntuforums just go down?
[08:56] <iiiears> and an earlier version of ntfs in win NT
[08:56] <popey> does anyone know if/when shipit will allow ordering of ubuntu-server rather than standard breezy?
[08:56] <gpogo> anyone know anything about xorg7, as in will it be in dapper?
[08:56] <aftertaf> sazwerx:  update to breezy?
[08:56] <topyli> ntfs was released for nt
[08:56] <TheDiff> benplaut: the internet is broke
[08:56] <sazwerx> aftertaf, not yet
[08:56] <highvoltage> hi guys, hi used to be able to mount //smbmount/share /mnt in ubuntu, but it doesn't work in breezy, how do i fix that?
[08:56] <thoreauputic> benplaut: 2005 may be the beginning of the Internet Wars sadly
[08:56] <aftertaf> sazwerx:  then if you know how to, you can compile from source.
[08:57] <benplaut> TheDiff: err...
[08:57] <TheDiff> benplaut: one of the major IP backbone companies went down
[08:57] <sazwerx> aftertaf, i'm looking the GLib 2.0
[08:57] <TheDiff> so the entire internet is being crappy
[08:57] <thoreauputic> benplaut: dispute between level3 and cogent about peering I believe
[08:57] <aftertaf> sazwerx:  youd have less trouble if you went to breezy
[08:57] <iiiears> thoreauputic, - Do you mean "Wars" as in the fight for government control?
[08:57] <benplaut> ahh
[08:57] <benplaut> that explains my sister complaining that IMDB won't work...
[08:58] <aftertaf> thoreauputic:  nice thought for a morning that......
[08:58] <thoreauputic> iiiears: hard to say - there are some major players involved in this
[08:58] <sazwerx> aftertaf, ok.. maybe i should upgrade to breezy now.. :)
[08:58] <aftertaf> sazwerx:  yep
[08:58] <iiiears> Thats all we need is a bunch of regulations based on geography. - ugh.
[08:59] <bradd> ld can't find my 'crt1.o' file.. any ideas whether I'm missing a package or now?
[08:59] <bradd> not
[09:00] <nalioth> RezDawg: if you have any questions, get with me, but it's a pretty good howto
[09:02] <bradd> can I somehow search thru the files a package has for a particular file?
[09:02] <nalioth> bradd: yes, install and use "apt-file"
[09:02] <bradd> ok, thanks
[09:02] <nalioth> bradd: it is a console tool
[09:02] <bradd> ok
[09:03] <bubulle> and is seeking for the Ubuntu devel channel
[09:03] <benplaut> #ubuntu-devel
[09:03] <benplaut> but it's not for asking support questions...
[09:03] <bubulle> benplaut: obvious...thanks
[09:03] <bubulle> well, this is for a specific devel pb
[09:04] <fr00d> Hello!
[09:04] <JustSteve> is there any issue with the US apt-get servers at the moment?
[09:04] <bubulle> (/me is DD, workin in Debian Instalelr team and maintaining shadow as well as tons of translations)
[09:04] <fr00d> Hello! Where should I go to get help for fglrx with transparency?
[09:04] <benplaut> JustSomeone: a major web backbone went down
[09:04] <Mr_Milenko> shadow?
[09:04] <JustSteve> nice, do you have a link to info on that?
[09:05] <JustSteve> is it the same as the deal a couple weeks ago, two companies being all nasty and whatnot?
[09:05] <benplaut> i have no idea
[09:05] <benplaut> thor and Diff just told me
[09:05] <thoreauputic> JustSteve: seems likely
[09:06] <dazvid> Where does the abs-guide get installed to? or rather, how do I read it?
[09:07] <JustSteve> thanks guess i'll keep googling unless someone can point me in a better direction. i have a few people asking me questions i can't find the answers for about their lack of connectivity
[09:07] <dazvid> (advanced bash scripting guide)
[09:08] <siimo> hi anyone here use bittornado-gui from ubuntu
[09:08] <siimo> how to run it
[09:08] <Mr_Milenko> probably ./nameofthefile
[09:08] <iiiears> ah Verio has fainted and is being revived?
[09:08] <Mr_Milenko> ?
[09:08] <sykopomp> hey, what's the name of that music player that Ubuntu comes packaged with, I believe it was able to update iPods and share music on an iTunes netwokr?
[09:09] <henk> hi currently the gnome panel (taskbar) is grouping the applications , but as long as there is space enough on the bar i don't see why that is handy, i whould like to change that behaviour but i cannot find where.
[09:09] <Mr_Milenko> click the gnome "start" menu(sorry windows users :P) go to Cinfig Editor in administration i beleive
[09:09] <JustSteve> fyi, internet health report showing Level3 and Verio networks as critical
[09:09] <Mr_Milenko> yeah
[09:10] <corincole> can anyone tell me how to install macromedia shockwave  AND/OR   java for firefox, in linux?
[09:10] <corincole> :)
[09:10] <Mr_Milenko> i have earthlink.. they use Level3
[09:10] <Mr_Milenko> my dialup wont work
[09:10] <sykopomp> Can anyone tell me the name of the music player that Ubuntu comes with by default?
[09:10] <Mr_Milenko> im using.. *sniffle* netzero
[09:11] <aftertaf> sykopomp:  a few.
[09:11] <corincole> anyone?
[09:11] <thoreauputic> sykopomp: rhythmbox, totem
[09:12] <Mr_Milenko> totem is evil..
[09:12] <thoreauputic> sykopomp: many others available from th erepositories
[09:12] <iiiears> corincole - someone here has a link to the java.deb - else you can D/L the app from java sun and use "alien" to make a .deb file.
[09:12] <sykopomp> thanks :)
[09:12] <Mr_Milenko> it hates me
[09:12] <Mr_Milenko> :(
[09:12] <melvztechie> guys, anyone had success installing MRTG on server install?
[09:12] <sykopomp> so Rhythmbox shares music on an iTunes network?
[09:12] <thoreauputic> Mr_Milenko: install totem-xine
[09:12] <Mr_Milenko> cant now
[09:12] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:12] <Mr_Milenko> im on my windows partition
[09:12] <Mr_Milenko> :-/
[09:12] <Mr_Milenko> and JustSteve
[09:12] <Mr_Milenko> evel(3) had an OSPF failure in Chicago, that is resulting in nationwide failures across the US and parts of Europe. They are currently working on restoring service in all markets.
[09:13] <Mr_Milenko> level3*
[09:13] <iiiears> shockwave will install itself if you have firefox "Allow sites to install software" enabled in settings
[09:13] <iiiears> sfter installin java
[09:14] <JustSteve> thanks Mr_Milenko
[09:14] <nalioth> !javadeb
[09:14] <ubotu> hmm... javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[09:14] <nalioth> iiiears: ^^^^ ahem
[09:15] <paux> i have a problem with starting programs on gnome. i can start the program easily on the commandline but generating a starter on gnome fails.... any idea?
[09:15] <paux> btw...good morning everyone!
[09:15] <aftertaf> paulproteus:  progs needing sudo, or any progs?
[09:15] <corincole> morning paux
[09:15] <JustSteve> well. i guess that a good enough reason to not be able to reach apt-get servers. goodnight all
[09:16] <paux> ;-)
[09:17] <sazwerx> !info quagga
[09:17] <ubotu> quagga: (Unoff. successor of the Zebra BGP/OSPF/RIP routing daemon), section net, is optional. Version: 0.99.1-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1176 kB, Installed size: 4076 kB
[09:18] <aftertaf> sorry paulproteus :/
[09:18] <paulproteus> aftertaf: No worries. :)
[09:18] <aftertaf> paux:  :  progs needing sudo, or any progs?
[09:18] <aftertaf> lol
[09:18] <paux> aftertaf: any progs :-\
[09:19] <paux> aftertaf: works fine with firefox, fails with xine or tora
[09:19] <aftertaf> weid
[09:19] <paux> yes sir....
[09:19] <sazwerx> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:19] <sazwerx> anyone?
[09:19] <Rawplayer> you have another apt-get session running
[09:19] <Rawplayer> or you have messed around with pam
[09:20] <sazwerx> Rawplayer, how to kill it?
[09:20] <sazwerx> Rawplayer, what is pam?
[09:20] <Rawplayer> ctrl c
[09:21] <Kovecses> what is the app called for burning audio cd's in ubuntu?
[09:21] <sazwerx> Rawplayer, oic.. thanks
[09:21] <topyli> Kovecses: serpentine in breezy
[09:21] <xukun> hi all
[09:21] <paux> aftertaf: thanx.....anyone else any ideas?
[09:21] <paux> hey xukun
[09:22] <Kovecses> topyli, thats the one........ thanks
[09:22] <iiiears> Bot net bust in the netherlands (yawn)   - 1.5 million zombied computers - Whoa!
[09:22] <aftertaf> lol
[09:22] <Mr_Milenko> wow
[09:23] <iiiears> http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=778
[09:25] <Kovecses> zombied computers??????
[09:25] <all4n> how do you use wildcards when dealing with the 'dkpg' command?
[09:26] <Kovecses> all4n, did you try dpkg -h ?
[09:26] <mustard5> does anyone know how big the server install option is in terms of megabytes?
[09:26] <all4n> nope, thought it was a terminal thing.. not specific to dpkg
[09:26] <Kovecses> mustard5, i think like 800
[09:26] <mustard5> thanks Kovecses
[09:27] <mustard5> 200 mb bigger than a friend wanted...I can answer his question now :)
[09:27] <ekimus> hi, isn't the info on mp3 wrong decoding doesn't need al
[09:27] <mustard5> he was looking for a small server install distro
[09:27] <ekimus> damn, sorry
[09:27] <xukun> is there a way to install skype on breezy?
[09:27] <Kovecses> mustard5, try debian maybe
[09:27] <mustard5> xukun I have skype running
[09:27] <ekimus> hi, isn't the info on mp3 wrong decoding doesn't need a license. so it wouldn't be a problem (for the next release) to include a player that is capable of mp3
[09:27] <mustard5> Kovecses, I'll run it by him
[09:28] <xukun> mustard5, how did you installed it?
[09:28] <Fujitsu> ekimus: MP3 is patent encumbered.
[09:28] <vader1102> night people
[09:28] <dhonn> OOo 2 final be available for breezy?
[09:28] <concept10> anyone get the new vmware player running on breezy?
[09:28] <dhonn> i downloaded it but never tried yet
[09:29] <Fujitsu> ekimus: It cannot really be used at all without restrictions, as all the legal stuff surrounding it is quite foggy.
[09:29] <mustard5> I added the skype repos and the manually installed the libqt3c-xxxxx(whatever it is).deb that seems to conflict with everything else I like installing :D
[09:29] <mustard5> I'll look for the HOW TO xukun
[09:29] <juliana> I'm trying to install ubuntu to my laptop (dual-boot) without altering my existing MBR... I've googled my heart out, to no avail.  Can anyone help me out?
[09:29] <ekimus> Fujitsu: too bad mp3 is too common to leave it out (imo)
[09:30] <orkid_> hi everyone. so i'm at a point where i'm almost ready to install ubuntu. but i have the choice between the 64 bit and the 32 bit versions. i know about the flash/openoffice problems. does anyone have desktop experience (speed comparisons) between the 32 and 64 bit versions? i hear speed increases are inevitable, but the amount of increase depends on the application.
[09:30] <xukun> mustard5, yes please do
[09:30] <aftertaf> orkid_:  you cant migrate from 32 to 64
[09:30] <dhonn> doesnt 64 bit eat up more L1 and L2 cache
[09:30] <mustard5> xukun, you will find the specific libqt3cxxxx.deb that skype uses is a pain in the butt.
[09:31] <mustard5> ubotu: tell xukun about skype
[09:31] <mustard5> xukun check for a private message from ubotu
[09:32] <xukun> mustard5, thanks a lot, I wil look in to that
[09:32] <orkid_> aftertaf: i'm not upgrading, it's a fresh install. i was hoping that someone had knowledge of the usability differences (in terms of speed) using basic desktop software (web/office/gfx) for 32v64 bit versions.
[09:32] <mustard5> xukun, its got a lot of conflicts, so watch out carefully for what it wants to uninstall
[09:33] <Sirrush> juliana,  I'd say try Horary 5.04 as Breezy did not prompt me where it wanted grub installed
[09:33] <Sirrush> (SIC)
[09:34] <marcin> hi evrybody, i have a problem with totem-gstreamer, because i can't watch any films
[09:34] <orkid_> i'm running gentoo x86_64 right now, and it is very fast (the fastest linux os i've run), but gentoo seems to be lagging in getting gnome2.12 for amd64 out, and the integration b/w packages isn't that great. i don't mean to knock gentoo, fyi.
[09:35] <xukun> mustard5, are you saying that if I fellow the part in the howto saying "Installing skype in breezy" that I still have a problem?
[09:35] <nnonix> Is anyone sucessfully running Network-Manager in Breezy without bind problems?
[09:37] <juliana> Sirrush: I haven't played around with linux for several years and don't remember much except that I ultimately screwed up mom's mbr.  If I installed that-- would I just do so to the partition I have set aside?  And then would formatting that partition cause it to use the windows bootloader again?
[09:37] <bob2> nnonix: bind problems?
[09:37] <Sirrush> lol juliana  I've been their
[09:38] <Sirrush> You can always use the windows CD to fix the mbr
[09:38] <blunted> lol
[09:38] <blunted> u can just use a windows floppy and type fdisk /mbr
[09:38] <Sirrush> Hang one let me get you a link to make sure you got that JUST incase
[09:38] <juliana> no floppy drive on the laptop
[09:38] <blunted> lol what a noob
[09:39] <bob2> blunted: ?
[09:39] <iiiears> juliana - the linux "dd" command and a "boot.lnx" file can be helpful.
[09:39] <blunted> man
[09:39] <topyli> i wonder if we could make an exception and upgrade OOo to 2.0 final now that it's out :)
[09:39] <blunted> pay me no mind
[09:39] <sykopomp> what do you do when you're running Kubuntu on a G4 PowerBook and realize, to your horror, that it won't let you right-click?
[09:39] <blunted> cause im past the label on the bottle im drinkin
[09:39] <blunted> i didnt know mac's could right click
[09:39] <sykopomp> they can't
[09:39] <blunted> i thought they only had 1 button
[09:39] <bob2> sykopomp: by a less crippled laptop next time, or f11/f12
[09:40] <sykopomp> that's the problem :P
[09:40] <nnonix> bob2: Network-Manager requires bind9 and so its installed and starts on boot as it should. However, Network-Manager also calls bind directly, giving you 2 bind processes that are obviously conflicting. A restart of the regular bind process resolves the problem .... but you must do that everytime the machine boots or no resolution.
[09:40] <bob2> says the guy who bought a ibook
[09:40] <blunted> well theres your fuckin problem
[09:40] <bob2> blunted: please?
[09:40] <blunted> please what?
[09:40] <bob2> nnonix: I had no conflict
[09:40] <blunted> please cheese
[09:40] <Sirrush> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/bootcons_fixmbr.mspx
[09:40] <sykopomp> I didn't buy it, Iqm installing Ubuntu on a friend's powerbook because he hates OSX :P
[09:40] <blunted> suck on deeze!
[09:40] <blunted> sorry it rhymes
[09:41] <nnonix> bob2: how many bind processes do you have running at the moment AND are you using 127.0.0.1 as your only name server in resolv.conf?
[09:41] <thoreauputic> !tell blunted about !tell %2 about conduct
[09:41] <thoreauputic> bah
[09:42] <thoreauputic> !coc
[09:42] <ubotu> coc is, like, the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[09:42] <Sirrush> http://256.com/gray/docs/linux_windows.html
[09:42] <linukso> Hi! Fellow ubuntuers! What is the best tool for managing bootup scrits and runlevels in ubuntu? I have tried rcconf, but it has trouble with some of the startupscripts in breezy...
[09:42] <bob2> sykopomp: anyway, f11/f12
[09:42] <blunted> * ubotu has quit (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
[09:42] <blunted> * ubotu has quit (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
[09:42] <Sirrush> Now I cannot vouche for either of these sites esp not MS
[09:42] <blunted> ubotu can't tell me crap
[09:42] <ubotu> blunted: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:42] <blunted> and if it could
[09:42] <blunted> i wouldn't listen cause its a bot
[09:43] <iiiears> juliana - I have had bad luck with dual booting from one disk. the windows installer doesn't respect established partitions. windows needs frequent re-installs so i use two disks one for linux and another for windows and use the bios to switch between them by changing the boot priority. (wish this worked in laptops no room for a second disk)
[09:43] <blunted> if you want a message to be taken seriously maybe you should be the one to send it/
[09:43] <blunted> yep, i figure you'll kick me now or warn me
[09:43] <aftertaf> thoreauputic:  what a shame....... :] 
[09:44] <juliana> I never got a windows CD with my laptop... :\
[09:44] <Sirrush> errr...
[09:44] <mustard5> xukun, I'm saying that the libqt3cxxxx.deb that skype uses will conflict with the libqt3c-mt.deb that ubuntu uses quite regularly with other ubuntu packages and make some it impossible to install some programs unless you first uninstall skype
[09:44] <dianwei> Heh, I told you guys earlier that I would thank ya if I got ubuntu installed right, but it's working now, so thanks so much. :D
[09:44] <aftertaf> linukso:  you can try webmin for that
[09:45] <Sirrush> juliana,  not even recovery CD's?
[09:45] <juliana> How about installing ubuntu to an external USB hd?  Would that be more trouble than it's worth?
[09:45] <bob2> nnonix: I have 3 named process running
[09:45] <dianwei> Sorry if that counts as spam, well, you all have a good'un now, ya here?
[09:45] <iiiears> juliana - often you can call tech no-support for a CD. HP amd Gateway are free.
[09:45] <linukso> aftertaf: overkill :), I'm trying bum now
[09:46] <iiiears> you will need the special MS sticker #
[09:46] <mustard5> xukun, for instance mythv requires libqt3c-mt, so installing mythtv will mean uninstalling skype.
[09:46] <juliana> I wish I could just wipe the mofo clean and forget windows, but unfortunately it's not an option...
[09:46] <linukso> aftertaf: btw, bum seems to work great.
[09:47] <nnonix> bob2: and is 127.0.0.1 the only name server specified in resolve.conf? I ask because if you have an outside nameserver specified, you wouldn't notice this problem
[09:47] <Sirrush> Yeah that would not be a good idea
[09:47] <nnonix> bob2: excuse me, resolv.conf
[09:47] <_jaypee> what is the command to build .deb out of source?
[09:47] <Sirrush> external USB would work I had a guy who installed to it at college so I know it works
[09:47] <Sirrush> juliana,  will you use breezy?
[09:47] <_jaypee> is it checkinstall?
[09:48] <benplaut> _jaypee: "sudo checkinstall"
[09:48] <_jaypee> ooo okay thanks!
[09:48] <benplaut> but you have to install checkinstall first
[09:48] <_jaypee> just wanted to make sure =)
[09:48] <benplaut> sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[09:48] <NrWarren> blunted says to tell thoreauputic that he smells like dick cheese and that he has root on your box
[09:48] <_jaypee> thanks benplaut
[09:48] <juliana> Sirrush: I don't know what breezy is
[09:48] <NrWarren> dont shoot the messenger. lol
[09:48] <NrWarren> shoot the message!
[09:48] <Sirrush> The most recent version of Ubuntu
[09:48] <benplaut> u know... checkinstall should be part of build-essential...
[09:48] <juliana> ah
[09:49] <bob2> nnonix: 127.0.0.1 is all that's in there
[09:49] <bob2> _jaypee: depends on what it is
[09:49] <juliana> unless there's been a new version within the past few weeks, that should be what I've got
[09:49] <bob2> _jaypee: if it's packaged software, then 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot'
[09:49] <bob2> benplaut: build-essential = software neccessary to build the hello world .deb
[09:49] <_jaypee> oo okay, trying checkinstall now
[09:49] <Syruss> anyone know when breezy will be officially released?
[09:50] <mustard5> Syruss, it has already
[09:50] <Sirrush> Only reason i ask is because Breezy never prompted me as to where it was to install grub so it wrote on the MBR no big deal as this is a linux machine as is
[09:50] <Syruss> not the preview release?
[09:50] <nnonix> bob2: any ideas then? On boot, with Network-manager installed I get no resolution unless I restart bind (it times out). Without Network-Manager installed bind loads fine and resolution is good. All was installed via apt and bind and dhcbdb were installed as dependancies by apt.
[09:50] <Sirrush> hey bob2  have you heard about that before or seen it ?
[09:50] <_jaypee> it worked! thanks again guys
[09:50] <Syruss> nnonix: I use network manager
[09:50] <Syruss> it's a bit dodgy
[09:50] <Syruss> :/
[09:51] <mustard5> Syruss, breezy has been officially released for well over a week
[09:51] <Syruss> I find one restart of bind fixes it
[09:51] <Syruss> mustard5: should I just dist-upgrade the preview release?
[09:51] <mustard5> Syruss, I did that and it did nothing :)
[09:51] <nnonix> Syruss: that's exactly the problem I'm asking about. I find the same here but am sick of restarting bind directly after login.
[09:51] <Syruss> lol
[09:51] <bob2> Sirrush: don't know, sorry
[09:51] <mustard5> I had preview too
[09:52] <mustard5> Syruss, give it a go :)
[09:52] <Syruss> nnonix: I couldn't find a fix for it unfortunately :/
[09:52] <mustard5> do sudo apt-get update first
[09:52] <dhonn> all those updates take you to the final version
[09:52] <Syruss> it's extremley annoying
[09:52] <Sirrush> Anyone here has Breezy prompted you as to where it should install grub as it did with Hoary?
[09:52] <bob2> nnonix: disturbingly, mine seems to listen on all interfaces
[09:52] <mustard5> Syruss, I just kept up with the updates and it all went well
[09:52] <Sirrush> It's ok bob2
[09:53] <orkid> so are all the amd64ers sticking with 32bit breezy for now?
[09:53] <RezDawg> i want to burn a DVD, someone said I could put a blank DVD in the drive and it would auto ask me if i wanted to burn, well it did but asked me if i wanted to burn cd not dvd, i know K3b will burn dvd im told, but does gnome have anything?
[09:53] <nnonix> Syruss: there is a version of network-manager that is compiled without bind support which will solve your problem as you won't end up with multiple bind processes running. Problem with that is, you'll immediately be prompted that an update for Network-Manager is available and the update causes the problem all over again (obviously).
[09:53] <budluva> RezDawg nautilus
[09:54] <guupsta> hi. is there a text based installer included in 5.10? My laptop's screen goes blank when I try to install and the setup screen is supposed to show up :/
[09:54] <Syruss> you can hold back packages nnonix
[09:54] <Syruss> there's also a script that NM uses to control bind, although I'm not sure it's of much use
[09:54] <RezDawg> budluva: i put a blank dvd in but it only wanted to burn a cd. isnt that nautilus asking me?
[09:54] <nnonix> Syruss: I'm planning on doing that IF I can't find a resolution.
[09:54] <Syruss> john@feeg:~/.gnome2/totem-addons$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:54] <seethru> RezDawg: GnomeBaker
[09:54] <Syruss> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:54] <Syruss> nnonix:
[09:54] <Syruss> can you do us a favour?
[09:54] <Syruss> email me your fix :p
[09:55] <Syruss> or rather, post it on the web and email me the url
[09:55] <corincole> can someone help me with flash? i cant get sound working....
[09:55] <corincole> :)
[09:55] <nnonix> bob2: is your resolution doggy or intermittant at all, anytime?
[09:55] <Syruss> my temporary fix is just hoping it doesn't fuck up
[09:55] <Syruss> and using hibernate rather than shutting down
[09:56] <RezDawg> seethru: thanks ill try that
[09:56] <nnonix> Syruss: the problem with holding packages back for me is, I don't want to miss out on newer packages/features/etc.
[09:56] <bob2> nnonix: no
[09:57] <pepsi> how can i rip cds to mp3?
[09:57] <nnonix> Syruss: I'll post it in the forums if I find a fix.
[09:57] <pepsi> sound juicer does not seem to like me
[09:57] <nnonix> bob2: are you running Breezy?
[09:57] <pepsi> crashes whenver i try to add a new profile
[09:57] <bob2> nnonix: yes
[09:57] <nnonix>  bob2: do you like mushrooms?
[09:57] <pepsi> mushrooms are nummy
[09:57] <nnonix> bob2: JK ..... I guess your one of the lucky ones. Syruss and I are having the same problem.
[09:58] <Syruss> yer
[09:58] <Syruss> mine is very intermittent
[09:58] <pepsi> :( how can i rip cds? :(
[09:58] <Syruss> i.e - I've not had a problem in the last 4/5 days
[09:58] <Syruss> but then it'll happen loads
[09:58] <Syruss> mainly for google.com/google.co.uk, pretty strange really
[09:58] <Syruss> bbl, gtg to work
[09:59] <corincole> can anyone help with flash for firefox?
[09:59] <topyli> pepsi: with sound-juicer. if you really want mp3s, install lame and s-j should use it
[09:59] <pepsi> topyli, ok.. so lame.. not gstreamer-lame?
[09:59] <topyli> corincole: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:00] <corincole> tplyli
[10:00] <corincole> i did everything
[10:00] <corincole> i did that
[10:00] <topyli> pepsi: oh i don't know, probably the gst one
[10:00] <corincole> did the stuff to get sound
[10:00] <corincole> still wont work
[10:00] <budluva> pepsi gstreamer-lame is gstreamer with lame support
[10:00] <bob2> nnonix: not unless they're hallucinogenic
[10:00] <budluva> install lame itself for the codec
[10:00] <pepsi> okie :D
[10:01] <corincole> topyli? pm?
[10:01] <corincole> ok
[10:01] <corincole> i did the flash thing
[10:01] <corincole> that now works, but no sound
[10:01] <dazed> nnonix: i pick them here in Oregon, whats all this about mushrooms?
[10:01] <topyli> corincole: so you have problems with the sound server. there's a howto on the forums, i forget. search for something like "multiple sounds" or such
[10:02] <corincole> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats   ?
[10:02] <topyli> corincole: no, this is for setting up esd properly
[10:03] <nnonix> dazed: bob2 and I were going back and forth. Question/answer/question/answer.... I ran out of questions so I asked if he liked mushrooms.
[10:03] <corincole> cant find it topyli
[10:03] <corincole> can u have a look?
[10:03] <corincole> :)
[10:04] <dazed> ah... so find many bugs in Breezy or is it pretty good?
[10:04] <corincole> ?
[10:05] <ekimus> is there some plugin for rythmbox so that i can edit mp3-tags?
[10:05] <nnonix> dazed: I'm very happy with Breezy
[10:06] <Sirrush> nnonix,  tell me something did Breezy install grub to the mbr without prompting?
[10:06] <spacey_ki> ekimus, don't know but you can try "Audio Tag Tool"
[10:06] <dazed> i gave up on Flash for the PowerPC arch as it doesnt have an official release.
[10:06] <sazwerx> how to add plugin so i can play mp3 in rythmbox?
[10:06] <Sirrush> during the install?
[10:06] <neotrophy> The only issue that I have with Breezy is that it doesn't support 2 of my soundcard out of the box.
[10:06] <nnonix> Sirrush: yep, no prompt
[10:06] <topyli> corincole: here it is: http://snipurl.com/is4a
[10:06] <Sirrush> yeah same thing here and a few other ppl I talked to
[10:06] <nnonix> Sirrush: which for me, isn't a problem.
[10:06] <Sirrush> hoary didn't do that
[10:07] <corincole> thanks
[10:07] <corincole> :)
[10:07] <Sirrush> neither for me their was a person here who didn't want to overwrite their MBR
[10:07] <Sirrush> I found it funny as I have done several Debian installs and Slack installs and that never happened before
[10:07] <Sirrush> thought maybe it was just me
[10:08] <raatoh> sorry bout asking, but where is the problem when i'm trying to get flashplayer to mozilla-firefox @ ubuntu, it says something like this "http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/restr Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_restr_binary-i386packages) - stat (2 files or folders doesn't exist)"
[10:08] <Sirrush> but I asked around looks like I am not the only one
[10:08] <raatoh> and it does that even when trying to sudo get-apt update
[10:09] <dazed> I thought you could just get it from Macromedia and run a script that comes with it?
[10:09] <raatoh> dazed, that might also solve the problem.
[10:09] <raatoh> dazed, but it does that anyway trying to get anything.
[10:10] <raatoh> or should i just try synopsis?
[10:10] <mustard5> raatoh, hoary backports?
[10:10] <raatoh> jap.
[10:10] <raatoh> readin the unofficial ubuntu guide.
[10:10] <mustard5> mirrormax is shut down...backports are official now
[10:10] <topyli> what was the name of that new simple id3 tag tool for gnome? not easytag, this is new
[10:10] <raatoh> ah..
[10:10] <raatoh> that's why it doesn't work.
[10:10] <dazed> raatoh: sorry does what?
[10:11] <Sirrush> Anyone try out the server version of breezy yet?
[10:11] <raatoh> dazed, gives me that error.
[10:11] <raatoh> dazed, but the reason why it does that is answered. mirrormax is shut down.
[10:11] <mustard5> raatoh, I think you can still get hoary-extras...but not hoary backports
[10:11] <nnonix> Sirrush: yep (don't remember that asking about grub either).
[10:12] <fate00> why doesn't the proftpd package with work inetd?
[10:12] <Sirrush> lol dangit it's out of the question then for my college server
[10:12] <Sirrush> :(
[10:12] <Sirrush> I am running hoary for my begginning linux class and it is kicking butt
[10:12] <nnonix> Sirrush: I could be very wrong .... I just don't recall it asking.
[10:12] <mustard5> ubotu: tell raatoh about backports
[10:12] <Sirrush> detected everything very well
[10:12] <guupsta> my laptop's screen goes blank when the installer is supposed to start. I was wondering if there's a text(ascii) based installer like in debian
[10:13] <guupsta> ?
[10:13] <raatoh> thanks mustard5.
[10:13] <GreenFireD> hello
[10:13] <mustard5> np
[10:13] <mustard5> hi GreenFireD
[10:13] <Sirrush> nnonix, I don't want to risk it as our hardware config requires bootdisks
[10:14] <dazed> raatoh: did you try the instructions here: http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[10:14] <mustard5> ubotu: tell raatoh about sources
[10:14] <topyli> guupsta: the ubuntu installer _is_ the debian installer, sligtly modified
[10:14] <mustard5> raatoh, I sent that one so you can find a standard source list to compare
[10:15] <guupsta> topyli: but I recall that there was even more rough looking installer included in debian as an option
[10:15] <moerl> testing
[10:15] <topyli> guupsta: oh it's still an option? i don't think ubuntu has that
[10:15] <raatoh> dazed, nope, i haven't. but just about to do that.
[10:15] <raatoh> mustard5, thanks, my source list looks a bit different.
[10:16] <neotrophy> !tell neotrophy about backports
[10:16] <guupsta> topyli, I'd need that as I'm pretty sure that the screen blanking is due to that installer's screen mode :)
[10:17] <GreenFireD> I have some problems with Skype(again), when I call to somebody, it writes "problem with sound device"
[10:17] <topyli> guupsta: install woody and upgrade to breezy. might work :)
[10:17] <dazed> cool. I tried it, but then found out it doesn't work for PowerPC (Macintosh)  :-(
[10:17] <nalioth> topyli: yes use a woody netinst floppy set
[10:17] <topyli> gotta go to work now
[10:17] <Sirrush> guupsta,  some people have installed sarge and upgraded to hoary
[10:17] <guupsta> topyli: hehe, I just might try that sometime :)
[10:17] <Sirrush> I've read a that in a few forums
[10:17] <guupsta> oh
[10:17] <RezDawg> Can someone help me please, I dont want to boot back into windows and solve this problem, my friend made a short animation on dvd and i want to copy it in linux, the vob's are not encrpyted, i tried gnomebaker but only option i see there is burn dvd iso. any suggestions
[10:17] <GreenFireD> where can I check the problem?
[10:17] <nalioth> guupsta: sarge --> breezy is not too bad a transition. woody >>>> ubuntu is better, tho
[10:17] <guupsta> k
[10:18] <nalioth> RezDawg: just copy it. vlc will play it
[10:18] <dazed> yes, delete windows (ahem, sorry couldnt resist)
[10:18] <Sirrush> lol
[10:18] <guupsta> I'm off. thanks for the tips guys. -->
[10:18] <RezDawg> nalioth: i want to be able to play it on settop dvd
[10:19] <GreenFireD> I have some problems with Skype(again), when I call to somebody, it writes "problem with sound device". where can i check the problem?
[10:20] <mustard5> GreenFireD, skype won't work with other sound devices going
[10:20] <GreenFireD> so what i need to do?
[10:20] <raatoh> GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <- alrighty. wtf this means?
[10:20] <sazwerx> help me.. i've just compile the new Gaim v1.5, but now, it has no sound.. how to enbled it?
[10:20] <GreenFireD> I also have same problem with TeamSpeak. I can't hear any one, and people can hear me..
[10:20] <mustard5> GreenFireD, you might kill and sound processed that might be running
[10:20] <GreenFireD> can't*
[10:21] <nalioth> RezDawg: i dont understand what you want to do
[10:21] <andy81> i need some help with removing ATI drivers that didnt install properly, so i can try to reinstall them, how do I do that?
[10:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell raatoh about gpgerr
[10:21] <dazed> raatoh: I got that earlier, then tried again and it worked. Perhaps its being updated?
[10:21] <x0xA> :O
[10:21] <sazwerx> how to enabled sound in Gaim?
[10:21] <raatoh> ah :D
[10:21] <RezDawg> nalioth: i want to copy the dvd so i can play the animation on the dvd player connected to the tv and watch it there
[10:21] <raatoh> always learning more :)
[10:21] <raatoh> thank you :)
[10:21] <nalioth> RezDawg: use k3b
[10:21] <andy81> anyone?
[10:22] <GreenFireD> mustard5, what should I do?
[10:22] <Sirrush> andy81, you installed fglrx?
[10:22] <x0xA> how can i bridge two network connections together?
[10:22] <Sirrush> did you configure it aswell ?
[10:23] <raatoh> it works fine now.
[10:23] <tsume> is there a page on using multiverse and universe?
[10:23] <tsume> I'm getting a GPG bad key sig
[10:23] <tsume> on updates using apt
[10:23] <raatoh> wait a bit
[10:23] <corincole> can someone please help me with multiple sounds?
[10:23] <corincole> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&highlight=multiple+sounds&amp;title=HOWTO:+Hear+multiple+sounds+using+Both+ESD+&+ALSA+-+Ubuntu+Forums
[10:23] <dazed> c ya later...
[10:23] <corincole> i dont know how to do that
[10:24] <andy81> yeah I tried, and I ran fglrxconfig, but that didnt work, I tried to edit xorg,conf and it didnt work either.  the ati control panel is in the menu and it dowsnt wont, I thought maybe I should try to remove everyhing and try again
[10:24] <corincole> anyone???
[10:24] <dgittler> nope
[10:24] <mustard5> GreenFireD, I don't know any easy answer..
[10:25] <tsume> I'm extremely surprised there is ruby-1.9 in the tree
[10:25] <GreenFireD> :(
[10:25] <mustard5> GreenFireD, you on breezy or hoary?
[10:25] <GreenFireD> mustard5, breezy
[10:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tsume about sources
[10:25] <erirlar> how do i change the gnome splash screen?
[10:25] <tsume> unfortunately only ruby 1.8.2 is there :P
[10:26] <Sirrush> fglrxconfig wrote xorg.conf I am assuming
[10:26] <GreenFireD> mustard5, I need to add, that when i installed the skype, everything was working
[10:26] <mustard5> GreenFireD, do you have any other sound problems other than with teamspeak and skype?
[10:26] <nalioth> corincole: i may have told you before, "anyone?" and other requests for info that is not phrased in a informational question format are unlikely to recieve answers any quicker
[10:27] <corincole> ok, so can you help nalioth?
[10:27] <Sirrush> errr
[10:27] <corincole> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&highlight=multiple+sounds&amp;title=HOWTO:+Hear+multiple+sounds+using+Both+ESD+&+ALSA+-+Ubuntu+Forums
[10:27] <Sirrush> he left?
[10:27] <mustard5> GreenFireD, I'm in the middle of trying to work out what sound device is conflicting with my xawtv...and I'm not having much luck...so me troubleshooting your problem is probably like the blind leading the blind :D
[10:27] <corincole> i dont know how to do what it says there
[10:27] <nalioth> corincole: i know nothing about sounds
[10:27] <GreenFireD> mustard5, I don't sure but I think that also in AmaroK. there are some songs that I can't hear(don't know the reason)
[10:27] <corincole> nalioth - its not about sounds, its about linux in general
[10:27] <corincole> nalioth, can I pm you something?
[10:28] <nalioth> corincole: that URL you just posted is quite clear to me. read over it before you begin
[10:28] <RezDawg> nalioth: when i installed gnomebake it installed like 3 files, but when i uninstalled it just did gnomebaker, is there a better way to get all files than just going synaptic remove
[10:28] <nalioth> corincole: you can talk to me all you like in #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:29] <corincole> nalioth, its not off topic, its just code which would will up this forum
[10:29] <nalioth> RezDawg: are the other 2 files being used by something else?
[10:29] <corincole> but ok, how do i use this code:
[10:29] <corincole> [esd] 
[10:29] <corincole> auto_spawn=1
[10:29] <corincole> spawn_options=-terminate -nobeeps -as 2 -d default
[10:29] <corincole> spawn_wait_ms=100
[10:29] <corincole> # default options are used in spawned and non-spawned mode
[10:29] <corincole> default_options=
[10:29] <corincole> ?
[10:29] <Sirrush> Alright guys I'm a heading out
[10:29] <nalioth> corincole: that code is shown in the howto and also what to do with it
[10:29] <Xlylith> hello
[10:30] <nalioth> corincole: look at item number 3
[10:30] <corincole> where does it say what to do with it?
[10:30] <mustard5> GreenFireD, rebooting...brb
[10:30] <tsume> nalioth: I have used breezy before and hoary
[10:30] <nnonix> How do I go about making synaptic ignore a package I wish not to upgrade?
[10:30] <tsume> well. I used breezy when it was pre :)
[10:30] <RezDawg> nalioth: that i cant answer
[10:31] <nalioth> tsume: ok
[10:31] <nalioth> RezDawg: best to leave things alone then
[10:31] <tsume> nalioth: the question however. the bad gpg sign appears randomly upon updates
[10:31] <RezDawg> nalioth: i think i might of had gnomebaker open when i uninstalled
[10:31] <nalioth> tsume: are you using us.archive.bleh?
[10:32] <nalioth> RezDawg: are you running linux on a 10gb HD?
[10:32] <RezDawg> nalioth: 20gig partition
[10:32] <Xlylith> helo
[10:33] <mllr> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)   Um, What now?
[10:33] <tsume> nalioth: no :) jp.
[10:33] <nalioth> mllr: change your sources.list URLs from us.archive.bleh to archive.bleh
[10:34] <nalioth> tsume: did you read the gpgerr from ubotu?
[10:34] <tsume> ubuntu: gpgerr
[10:35] <tsume> nalioth: no, the page didn't have anything about gpgerr, only about synaptic which I don't use ;)
[10:36] <nalioth> tsume: ubotu didnt give you instructions?
[10:36] <tsume> nalioth: not on a gpg error
[10:36] <mustard5> GreenFireD, you still there?
[10:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tsume abaout gpgerr
[10:36] <GreenFireD> yes
[10:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tsume abaout gpgerr
[10:37] <GreenFireD> mustard5, My friend is trying to help me talso
[10:37] <tsume> nothing is happening :) did something break in the bot?
[10:37] <nalioth> !gpgerr
[10:37] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[10:37] <tsume> erm. ii, I didn't see all these nicks. Botnet attack
[10:38] <tsume> nalioth: oh, alright
[10:39] <omer> Hello
[10:39] <tsume> hopefully experience goes well this time with ubuntu. I stopped using it last time because some deb ass on the ubuntu team insulted me, I think it was Ka.. something
[10:39] <Myrtti_> nice reason
[10:39] <tsume> I think Kamion
[10:39] <tsume> I'll have to order more cds though
[10:40] <omer> I have problem with breezy-backports
[10:40] <omer> It said 404 not found
[10:40] <tsume> Myrtti_: I believe community means most in a product. Developers might not be PRs, but they certainly need to know manners.
[10:40] <Myrtti_> tsume: true, but still if there's one rotten egg in a basket, it doesn't automatically mean that they're all bad
[10:40] <nalioth> omer: there are no breezy backports
[10:41] <Myrtti_> tsume: the problem is worse on many other distros
[10:41] <nalioth> and developers sometimes are not on the same planet as the rest of us
[10:41] <omer> OK. thanks.
[10:41] <tsume> Myrtti_: well lilo told me the guy was from debian, so I forgive him
[10:41] <Myrtti_> tsume: from debian fellow I'd expect anything.
[10:42] <frizzzzle> is this the place in which to sing praises to ubuntu?
[10:42] <nalioth> frizzzzle: it'll be like singing to the choir, i suspect
[10:42] <tsume> Myrtti_: I'm pretty much hardcore BSD, but I belive ubuntu is certainly an achievement
[10:42] <frizzzzle> haha no worry nalioth.  they'll sing along, then :p
[10:42] <tsume> nalioth: lets hope he doens't have a squeeky voice :P
[10:43] <nsomniac> tsume : I am as well but I'm in love with Ubuntu
[10:43] <tsume> I'm just really surprised there is a ruby-1.9 package.. probably in univese, but still
[10:43] <omer> I install kde (apt-get install kde) but in the login screen there is no option to move to kde
[10:44] <nalioth> omer: install "kubuntu-desktop"
[10:44] <nsomniac> omer I think it's dpkg -i kubuntu-desktop
[10:44] <omer> OK, thanks
[10:44] <omer> noit apt-get?
[10:44] <nalioth> omer: yes use apt-get
[10:44] <nalioth> nsomniac: dpkg is used for local single deb files
[10:45] <Enquest> I'm about to install Breezy on my computer. I got two harddisk each of 80 GB, I want to leave a 30GB for Windows so I can play games. The rest for Ubuntu... What is the best setup. Do I make my swap on HDB or on HDA and my HOME???
[10:45] <ktogias> Hi everybody... After upgrading from Hoary to Breezy I take "wine: failed to initialize: /usr/local/lib/wine/ntdll.dll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to start wine. I found that the requested files have been moved from /usr/local/lib/wine to /usr/lib/wine/ ..... dpkg-reconfigure wine doesn't help... I there any other advice than symlinkink /usr/lib/wine/ to /usr/local/lib/wine ?
[10:46] <omer> thanks, nalioth
[10:46] <nalioth> Enquest: traditionally one puts their swap on another HD if available, from their root partition
[10:46] <frizzzzle> I just have a quick question.  With breezy released, do I need to reinstall to upgrade, or can I do it via apt-get?
[10:46] <nalioth> ktogias: you seem to have figured it out already
[10:46] <disasm> Enquest: my suggesting is hda1 30 gb windows hda2 2 gig swap hda3 rest / hdb1 /home full
[10:47] <nalioth> frizzzzle: apt-get is wonderful. with it, you'll never 'install to upgrade' again
[10:47] <disasm> nalioth: yeah your probly right, swap would be better on hdb
[10:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell frizzzzle about upgrade2breezy
[10:47] <frizzzzle> oh, nalioth.  thank you very much.
[10:47] <Enquest> desasm but I can't spread the /home over two harddrives?
[10:48] <disasm> Enquest: well not really, you could have sub homes, like home1 and home2 and separate users in the two subs, but you cant join it into one partition (unless you have a striping raid type setup)
[10:49] <Enquest> Ok
[10:49] <nalioth> dammit he left
[10:50] <nalioth> everyone runs b4 i can talk more
[10:50] <tsume> everythign on my laptop works now :P including wireless
[10:50] <nalioth> tsume: great feeling aint it?
[10:50] <Severian> disasa, I see he left, but I am curious too.  Couldn't you do this with lvm?
[10:50] <tsume> would have been nice to have ubuntu installed when I went to expo.
[10:50] <tsume> nalioth: defintely
[10:50] <aftertaf> anyone help with an ati pci gfx card, to get it to work 1) as 3d, 2) as a tuner card (its a rage 128 all in wonder)
[10:51] <ztonzy> hm why doesn't the freenode-cloak scripts work with current xchat in breezy ?  I need to type password manually each time in serverwindow, is it a compile setting ?
[10:51] <Xlylith> hello, can anyone help me? I am lost here....
[10:51] <Xlylith> is breezy can be updated to breezy-server?
[10:51] <Severian> Xlylith.  Look around the room you are in.  What do you see?
[10:51] <nalioth> Severian: it can be done with lvm. i was gonna suggest mounting hdb and symlinking it to a folder in the $HOMEDIR
[10:52] <nalioth> ztonzy: open your server list, and click on "ubuntu servers" or "irc.freenode.net" (whichever you have)
[10:53] <nalioth> ztonzy: then click 'edit' and put your nickserv pass in the "server password" field. leave the nickserv field blank
[10:53] <nalioth> Xlylith: ask your question to the channel
[10:54] <ztonzy> nalioth, hmm  freenode I have yes...okey...so that would work ?
[10:54] <haffe> Hi, is there a command that will let me se my available amount of videoram?
[10:54] <nalioth> ztonzy: yes it will
[10:54] <geoffTheFish> has anybody got multiple email accounts on evolution?
[10:54] <nalioth> geoffTheFish: yes we do
[10:54] <aftertaf> anyone good on old pci graphics cards?
[10:55] <ztonzy> nalioth, I'll try in some minute or so
[10:55] <geoffTheFish> nalioth, it is driving me mental - adding extra accounts seems to break everything
[10:55] <Severian> aftertaf, what do you need to know?
[10:55] <geoffTheFish> seems to mix up login details
[10:55] <ztonzy> nalioth, thanks in meantime - I guess this question has been asked couple of times since breezy??
[10:55] <nalioth> geoffTheFish: perhaps backing everything up and starting over?
[10:55] <nalioth> ztonzy: nah, it gets asked all the time
[10:56] <geoffTheFish> i have had this problem on another machine too
[10:56] <azertyuuu> hey all, i need to replace a file , but i must be root, how can i do that ?
[10:56] <haffe> aftertaf: What do you want to know?
[10:56] <ztonzy> nalioth, eeek....I don't remind myself I had this issues in hoary :-\
[10:56] <nalioth> azertyuuu: use sudo
[10:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell azertyuuu about sudo
[10:57] <ce_smu> u dadimna
[10:57] <haffe> I have a ntfspartion that spans two harddrives (raided), do I have any chance of reading it in ubuntu?
[10:57] <aftertaf> an ati pci gfx card, to get it to work 1) as 3d, 2) as a tuner card (its a rage 128 all in wonder)
[10:57] <azertyuuu> nalioth i want to copy a file
[10:57] <Severian> azertyuuu, generally, the answer is to use sudo.. But, what file are you trying to replace?
[10:57] <nalioth> haffe: of course. read-only
[10:57] <no2morrow> hey
[10:58] <haffe> nalioth: Ok, how would I do taht?
[10:58] <azertyuuu> operamotifwrapper-2
[10:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell haffe about ntfs
[10:58] <mutmut> anyone know where is the ubuntu ebook or small tutorial that explain ubuntu, in pdf
[10:58] <haffe> nalioth: Haha.
[10:58] <Enquest> Does tar -cf have a problem backing-up my /home folder that is about 20 GB
[10:58] <haffe> The problem is that ubuntu doesn't see my raid array, it just sees the devices as /dev/sdc and /dev/sdb
[10:59] <ce_smu> hai...
[10:59] <nalioth> Enquest: you ran away b4 we could tell you more info
[10:59] <nalioth> haffe: and it doesnt see your data, either?
[10:59] <Enquest> nalioth, it was an accident
[10:59] <Enquest> I wanted to put out an other program
[10:59] <Severian> azertyuuu, I don't have that file, so I can't look up the details.  Is the file owned by root, or are you just getting an error trying to copy it?  If the later, it might be opened by a running process.
[10:59] <Enquest> sorry
[10:59] <tsume> ce_smu: oi
[10:59] <nalioth> Enquest: you can mount your hdb and symlink the mount point as a dir in your $HOMEDIR
[11:00] <haffe> nalioth: No.
[11:00] <azertyuuu> i got the answer   sudo mv filename newlocation
[11:00] <nalioth> azertyuuu: just remember "mv" is also known as "delete"
[11:00] <Enquest> nalioth, yes thats how I could do that
[11:00] <azertyuuu> how to copy then ?
[11:00] <aftertaf> cp
[11:01] <Xlylith> Can Ubuntu (breezy) be upgraded to Ubuntu-server?
[11:01] <haffe> aftertaf: check out http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml
[11:01] <nalioth> azertyuuu: use "cp" so you dont risk data destruction
[11:01] <azertyuuu> ok, thanx
[11:01] <aftertaf> thx haffe
[11:02] <nalioth> Enquest: i have 3 HDs and thats how i do it
[11:02] <bettong_BOFH> bob2 you there?
[11:02] <Xlylith> can anyone point me to ubuntu-server related docs?
[11:02] <Enquest> nalioth, I see, well I'm now figuring out how to backup my data without to much trouble
[11:02] <Xlylith> or channel
[11:02] <Xlylith> It seems I am lost here
[11:03] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: ?
[11:03] <bob2> Xlylith: eh?
[11:03] <bob2> Xlylith: ubuntu server is just ubuntu
[11:03] <devster> is there a way to get the kernel source for ubunt amd64?
[11:03] <bettong_BOFH> hey go to this link bob2 and tell me what you think
[11:03] <bettong_BOFH> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=431565#post431565
[11:04] <bettong_BOFH> 5 days of trial and error
[11:04] <nalioth> Xlylith: yes, breezy can be installed as a server
[11:04] <bob2> devster: apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.12-9
[11:04] <bettong_BOFH> the pinnical of which you solved lol
[11:04] <Enquest> nalioth, for what do you use the third?
[11:04] <bob2> yay forums
[11:04] <nalioth> Xlylith: this is the proper channel
[11:04] <nalioth> Enquest: i do a lot of video work
[11:04] <devster> bob2: without using apt-get? (the box with ubuntu has no net access)
[11:04] <Enquest> nalioth, with GNU/Linux Ubuntu?
[11:05] <bob2> devster: install it on another machine and copy it how ever you copy things
[11:05] <ce_smu> hai
[11:05] <Enquest> What programe do you use?
[11:05] <ce_smu> hai
[11:05] <devster> bob2: is it not on an ftp somewhere?
[11:05] <RezDawg> well k3b was a strikeout for copying a dvd, it only copies the files it dont make it a dvd so i cant play it in a standalone dvd player.  Are there no apps that do dvd authoring
[11:05] <bob2> devster: same place everything else is
[11:05] <bob2> devster: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:06] <bodq> hello
[11:06] <bodq> are old shipit accounts obsolete now?
[11:07] <RezDawg> ubotu: tell me about !dvd authoring
[11:07] <Severian> RezDawg, no
[11:07] <nalioth> Enquest: yes
[11:08] <[maven] > Can I set a different speed / acceleration for two mice (touchpad <-> external usb mouse)?
[11:08] <corincole> can anyone help me? I cant get .mp3 files to play, or DVDs to play...?
[11:08] <corincole> :)
[11:08] <Enquest> nalioth, what programe do you use for that... What hardware?
[11:08] <nalioth> RezDawg: copy the dvd to an image with k3b
[11:08] <bob2> corincole: you should read the FAQ
[11:08] <nalioth> Enquest: cinepaint
[11:08] <corincole> bob2? where?
[11:08] <bob2> corincole: in particular, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:08] <nalioth> Enquest: powermac dual g5
[11:08] <Severian> RezDawg, There are such apps, but I don't use them.
[11:09] <bettong_BOFH> and bob2 do you think i should put this howto somewhere else as well?
[11:09] <devster> wheres the kernel source for 2.6.12.4?
[11:09] <Enquest> cinepaint is a fork from the Gimp?
[11:09] <nalioth> bettong_BOFH: is the wiki in need of it?
[11:09] <bob2> devster: www.kernel.org
[11:09] <Enquest> Is that any good?
[11:09] <nalioth> Enquest: cinepaint used to be filmgimp
[11:09] <bettong_BOFH> hmm i think it may be do you have a link?
[11:09] <devster> the one ubuntu used i want
[11:09] <mllr> Um, very odd my Mplayer worked till today.  Any help would be great thanks.  mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:09] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: it sounds like if you'd followed the ndiswrapper howto you would have been fine
[11:09] <Severian> corincole, what you need to look at is the RestrictedFormats page on the ubuntuforums wiki.
[11:09] <bob2> devster: that kernel is not in ubuntu
[11:09] <devster> yes it is
[11:09] <bob2> mllr: and since then you've used apt?
[11:09] <bob2> devster: no, sorry
[11:09] <RezDawg> Severian: all i want to do is copy my friends short animation he did and watch it on standalone without rebooting into windows and using nero or roxio or alot of stuff
[11:10] <bettong_BOFH> i did but it's not as blatent to me as it should have been
[11:10] <devster> i'm looking at it right now
[11:10] <nalioth> bob2: you're a strange color atm
[11:10] <ktogias> Wine 20050725 that comes with breezy fails to run previously (hoary) ie6 ... Trying install with winetools fails too... :( Why wine is alway what brakes after an upgrade????
[11:10] <bob2> devster: where looking = ?
[11:10] <bettong_BOFH> and there are lots of cards that are of this series that seem to have the same prcedures
[11:10] <devster> at my monitor for the comp running ubuntu
[11:11] <Severian> RezDawg, if that is really your list of requirements, there are other choices.  I have used the eMovix plugin to k3b to do just what you want.
[11:11] <bob2> devster: ...
[11:11] <bob2> devster: why do you think ubuntu has kernel 2.6.12.4?
[11:11] <tsume> hmm, are there already made packages for libdvdcss and win32codec?
[11:11] <bettong_BOFH> plus the unzipping of the .exe file you helped with had me stuck for a really long time
[11:11] <devster> because thats what it says its running?
[11:11] <bob2> devster: for fuck's sake
[11:12] <bob2> devster: apt-cache search linux-image
[11:12] <bob2> devster: note the fact that 2.6.12.4 is not listed in there
[11:12] <bob2> devster: now, why do you think ubuntu has 2.6.12.4?
[11:12] <tsume> bob2: heh.. heh..
[11:12] <lorenzod> bob2: easy, easy..
[11:12] <devster> only alsa is listed there so by your logic, nothing is installed?
[11:12] <Severian> RezDawg, there are several steps to getting what you want set up.  Most things are packaged, except for libdvdcss, which can't really be for legal reasons.  But, it is not hard.
[11:12] <RezDawg> Severian: right its not that big of a file, like 2 gigs and its not encrypted, i tried k3b but it just made a data dvd that didnt play.  is emovix in repo or do i have to get it elsewhere
[11:12] <highvoltage> anyone know of a nice webmail server that allows users to create mail accounts for themselves?
[11:12] <bob2> devster: come on, please don't be a dick
[11:13] <bob2> devster: uname -r says 2.6.12.4?
[11:13] <devster> yes
[11:13] <RezDawg> Severian: i got w32codecs already
[11:13] <bob2> devster: and the name of the kernel image itself is?
[11:13] <devster> i dont have one, its whatever was on the disk
[11:13] <bob2> no, stop it
[11:13] <corincole> Severian - I just did all that, still doesnt work
[11:13] <bob2> look in /boot
[11:14] <Severian> RezDawg, look at the RestrictFormats page on the wiki.  I think they point you to vlc on sourceforge for the dvd unlocking.  You have to download source code on that piece and compile it.  But, it really is not hard.
[11:14] <corincole> several times, the terminal replied "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:14] <corincole> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:14] <corincole> "
[11:14] <corincole> ?
[11:14] <tsume> hmm
[11:14] <devster> ok so its called 2.6.12-9, doesnt change what uname -r says
[11:14] <bob2> devster: well, whatever
[11:14] <devster> i can go rename those in /boot to 2.6.2352352 doesnt change the kernel version
[11:14] <tsume> do certain country servers have dvdcss and the w32codecs?
[11:14] <bob2> oh, stop it
[11:14] <bob2> tsume: no
[11:14] <bob2> tsume: w32codecs is undistributable anywhere that has copyright laws
[11:14] <devster> so uname -r is broke?
[11:14] <bob2> no
[11:15] <RezDawg> Severian: i have vlc media player installed already, do i have to do it in a spefic way?
[11:15] <tsume> bob2: well someone on this forum said it was in the au server :)
[11:15] <bob2> you're not running a kernel from ubuntu
[11:15] <bob2> I'm sorry if you don't believe me
[11:15] <bob2> tsume: haha forums.
[11:15] <tsume> bob2: heh, just remember someone cannot be helped ;)
[11:15] <devster> so its not an official ubuntu image that came from ubuntu.com?
[11:15] <bob2> devster: cut your stupid attitude
[11:15] <bob2> devster: if you think it came from ubuntu, demonstrate it
[11:16] <[maven] > Can I set a different speed / acceleration for two mice (touchpad <-> external usb mouse)?
[11:16] <Severian> eMovix is a program for making boot CDs(or DVDs, I think) that have a small linux distro built in(less than 10 meg).  The CD boots into a movie player that will play most video or audio formats.  But, it won't do vob files.  You have to transcode, first.
[11:16] <devster> want a picture of the monitor ?
[11:16] <bob2> devster: what would that demonstrate?
[11:16] <devster> well you say uname -r isn't 2.6.12.4
[11:16] <bob2> devster: for instance, paste the output of "dmesg | head" to #flood
[11:16] <bob2> devster: no, I didn't say that.  I'm saying whatever kernel you're running is not from ubuntu.
[11:17] <Severian> RezDawg, it is not the vlc player, per se.  VLC has the dvd descrambling code in source code form that you can install.  Does you vlc setup play encrypted dvds now?
[11:17] <RezDawg> Severian: i havent tried
[11:17] <devster> that says 2.6.12.4 too
[11:17] <RezDawg> Severian: let me go grab one
[11:18] <bob2> devster: that's not what I'm asking
[11:18] <Severian> corincole, I am not ignoring you.  I just lost the thread.  What did you already try?
[11:18] <Xlylith> bob2: Is Ubuntu-server release has same repositories as "normal" ubuntu?
[11:18] <bob2> Xlylith: yes
[11:18] <bob2> Xlylith: it's just an ubuntu cd with a different selection of packages
[11:18] <bob2> Xlylith: and I don't think it sets up sudo
[11:18] <devster> tell me what u want then
[11:18] <Xlylith> oh.. ic
[11:18] <helpme> what is that command fix dpi 75 or something to fix large windows & icons?
[11:18] <tsume> ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.8-1unofficialubuntu3_i386.deb
[11:18] <tsume> well I found them in a unofficial repos
[11:18] <Blazint> adobe reader (acroread) can't startup in breezy?
[11:18] <tsume> I'm curious if they are safe to use
[11:19] <corincole> i tried everything about DVDs on that page Severian
[11:19] <bob2> devster: the output of "head /var/log/dmesg"
[11:19] <tsume>  :) the host sounds.. leet.
[11:19] <devster> i'm not typing it all
[11:19] <bob2> devster: so cut and paste, geez
[11:19] <Severian> corincole, what problems do you see?.  I had it working fine in Ubuntu 4.10, but I have not tried since then.
[11:20] <devster> and magically transfer it to this comp?
[11:20] <bob2> devster: well, whatever
[11:20] <Severian> corincole, just saying not working is not enough to do any diagnosis.
[11:20] <bob2> devster: 2.6.12.4 is not in ubuntu
[11:20] <mustard5> he had to leave Severian ..he said he would be back
[11:20] <bob2> perhaps someone rooted your machine and installed a new kernel for you
[11:20] <nalioth> RezDawg: if you're copying a dvd, use k3b to copy to image
[11:21] <nalioth> RezDawg: then burn the image back out onto a dvd-r
[11:21] <sexcopter8000m> hello, i've just started using gdesklets, and rather foolishly i set the option to hide the system tray icon, and now can't get it back. any hints?
[11:21] <devster> you mean the unconnecting install thats been installed for a whole 6hours?
[11:21] <tsume> http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf <--- YAY
[11:21] <bob2> okiedokie!
[11:22] <RezDawg> Severian: i put a encrypted dvd in and totem will play it but i cant seem to get vlc to open it
[11:22] <Xlylith> bob2: thanks. I was thinking of replacing my current ubuntu server with ubuntu-server. I thought it was sister distribution like kubuntu & edubuntu
[11:22] <bob2> Xlylith: kubuntu and edubuntu also have the same package selection as ubuntu
[11:22] <bob2> they're all the same
[11:22] <bob2> having 4 installers just confuses people
[11:22] <Xlylith> bob2: same repositories?
[11:22] <johnnybezak> have any of you guys built the tango-icon theme on breezy?
[11:22] <bob2> clast|away: please turn that off
[11:22] <ogra> Xlylith, same packages
[11:22] <bob2> Xlylith: yes
[11:23] <clast|away> bob2, k sry
[11:23] <jhe> hi
[11:23] <ogra> Xlylith, edubuntu is ubuntu +ltsp, kdeedu, gompris, some other edu apps and a different set of defaults and artwork
[11:23] <ogra> Xlylith, server is ubuntu -desktop
[11:23] <johnnybezak> does gnome have any edu stuff?
[11:24] <yhann> hello to all
[11:24] <Severian> RezDawg, if totem will play it, you should have libdvdcss installed.  So, what I would do is look for dvd::rip.  Install that and convert the dvds to avi files or similar.  Then, install emovix into k3b and make embedded movix disk s to play your short videos.
[11:24] <ogra> johnnybezak, gcompris, celestia, glife, some games, dgeo, gik ... lots more... gnome just hasnt a suite like kde
[11:24] <Xlylith> ogra: I misunderstood then, thanks for the info....
[11:25] <Severian> yhann, hell back to one.
[11:25] <johnnybezak> ogra: roger
[11:25] <Severian> yhann, I meant hello.
[11:25] <yhann> How can I enable root shell on Breezy?
[11:25] <bob2> yhann: "sudo -s"
[11:25] <nalioth> RezDawg: i thought this dvd was a homemade one w/o encryption
[11:26] <mwh_> hello, i'm trying to setup ltsp on Breezy and I have some difficulties
[11:26] <Xlylith> nalioth: can I ask about package in universe here, or are there any proper chanel?
[11:26] <RezDawg> nalioth: it is
[11:26] <mwh_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto seems to be a bit outdated
[11:26] <nalioth> Xlylith: ask here first
[11:26] <mwh_> is this the correct place to see how to install ltsp on ubuntu breezy?
[11:26] <RezDawg> nalioth: when i tried to use k3b it just made a data dvd out of it and wouldnt play on standalone
[11:27] <Severian> yhann, you could run bash with sudo.  Or, you could add a password for root and run a termnal and su to root.  The former option is better, usually.
[11:27] <mwh_> s/is/that/
[11:27] <tsume> Severian: point people to http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf for libdvdcss, w32codecs, and java
[11:27] <mustard5> mwh_, this is the help channel yes
[11:27] <mwh_> anyone tried to setup ltsp on breezy here, who could help me a bit
[11:27] <nalioth> RezDawg: did you use the "copy dvd" tool and make an image of it?
[11:27] <mwh_> like fx the wiki says that Also, make sure portmap isn't limited to the loopback interface in /etc/default/portmap (comment out the line with "-i 127.0.0.1").
[11:27] <bob2> reasking tour question over and over seems suboptimal
[11:27] <Severian> tsume, I just bookmarked that page.  I wanted to read it thoroughly before I point people to it.
[11:27] <mwh_> but the line -i 127.0.0.1 does not exist at all on a clean install of breezy
[11:27] <bob2> it would be easier to Just Ask
[11:27] <Xlylith> naliot: ok. I was using JFFNMS in Hoary, but Breezy broke its dependencies by upgrading rrdtools to version1.2
[11:27] <yhann> Hi guy, do you have same feeling or there is a way to do that! I just upgrade to Breezy and I had to re-install everything from scratch!!!!
[11:28] <RezDawg> nalioth: no i put the vob files on my HD and tried to copy from there
[11:28] <tsume> Severian: plf is known well for making non-free mandrake packages
[11:28] <mwh_> mustard5, I was thinking more of the wiki .. if that is the right place to look for info on installing ltsp
[11:28] <Xlylith> nalioth: how to downgrade a package in ubuntu then?
[11:28] <tsume> Severian: kinda exciting they made a ubuntu repos for the software
[11:28] <mustard5> mwh_ generally it is the recommended spot
[11:28] <mwh_> opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts should contan my host key .. but it does not either
[11:28] <mustard5> mwh specifically it may not be helpful
[11:28] <b0uncer> fuck, printer configuration is not working >:(
[11:28] <b0uncer> sorry for the ...ck
[11:29] <b0uncer> Breezy seems to be veeery buggy
[11:29] <nalioth> RezDawg: put the disk in your drive and copy it to an image
[11:29] <tsume> b0uncer: what is buggy on your side?
[11:29] <nalioth> Xlylith: i'm not sure. i believe you'd use dpkg and force it's use (but forcing can cause systemic problems)
[11:29] <Severian> tsume, I always install the plf sources when I set up a Mandrake(now Mandriva) system.  I trust them, pretty well.  I just want to look at it to see if anything they say would be wroong for Ubuntu.
[11:29] <mwh_> hmm, remembered that there was some info on installing on ltsp.org for ubuntu ... id better check that
[11:29] <b0uncer> tsume, can't print - can't even configure printers
[11:30] <b0uncer> I've also got some problems with my internet connection, but I've solved them with a script..but this printing
[11:30] <mustard5> b0uncer, what model printer?
[11:30] <b0uncer> how on earth can I add a printer even, if the nice gnome's graphical tool won't start
[11:30] <b0uncer> HP Deskjet 5740
[11:30] <Severian> Good night, everyone.  I just realized the time.
[11:30] <b0uncer> worked flawlessly on Hoary
[11:30] <mustard5> there is a HP how to in wiki I think
[11:31] <RezDawg> nalioth: well ill have to ask him for it back then, since its 230am it will have to be tomorrow, or more likely use windoze to do it, but what i wanted to do
[11:32] <b0uncer> mustard5, reading that, it "works works works ok ok ok" but hey, how to make it work if printer configuration jams
[11:32] <Xlylith> naliot: how can i get the correct package version then, do i just grab the deb from hoary repo and dpkg -i. It seems rrdtools 1.0.x never showed up in my current list of packages
[11:32] <Shin_Gouki> hi, question: if i install ubuntu on a PC on a SATA HD , and then but that disk into another PC...will ubuntu still start up..?
[11:33] <aquarius> Anyone know of a command-line tool that lets you modify the text in a PDF?
[11:34] <helpme> aquarius: i guess theres a pdf-to-html app.......
[11:35] <mustard5> b0uncer, I can only find the 'all-in-one' HOW TO's
[11:35] <aquarius> helpme: there is, but if I convert to HTML and then back to PDF again I lose some of the formatting :(
[11:35] <b0uncer> mustard5, hmm...I can't even access cups's web interface?
[11:35] <b0uncer> :o
[11:35] <b0uncer> this is something new
[11:35] <helpme> aquarius: i see...
[11:36] <mustard5> b0uncer, printers is not my forte....I just follow the guides sorry :)
[11:37] <b0uncer> darn, why can't I access cups web interface
[11:37] <MrManu> how can i use hotkeys without gnome or kde?
[11:37] <b0uncer> mustard5, thanks anyway :) you led me to the right direction, I think
[11:37] <mustard5> good luck, b0uncer ;)
[11:37] <locomorto> MrManu: I think you have to manually edit the config file for hotkeys
[11:39] <b0uncer> I seem to lack cups.conf too
[11:39] <b0uncer> sh..
[11:40] <MrManu> locomorto, where can i find the config file?
[11:40] <selinium> b0uncer, what are you trying to do?
[11:40] <b0uncer> selinium, get my printer work :)
[11:40] <b0uncer> I can't seem to access cups admin/web interface
[11:40] <b0uncer> and gnome's printer management won't open up
[11:40] <b0uncer> so I'm stuck
[11:41] <RezDawg> nalioth: i found a wiki for making a dvd image but its for gentoo, i take it mkisofs isnt a ubuntu command
[11:41] <selinium> b0uncer, What System/admin/printing ?
[11:41] <nalioth> RezDawg: i think k3b has a video option, but i may be mistaken
[11:42] <dazvid> Hey guys, how can i check what driver versions are running for my vid card?
[11:42] <b0uncer> now I found that conf
[11:42] <b0uncer> :)
[11:42] <b0uncer> still no web-interface
[11:42] <dazvid> is there a program similar to uname?
[11:42] <jdub> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000043.html
[11:42] <bob2> dazvid: depends on the driver
[11:42] <jdub> UBUNTU LOVE DAY!
[11:42] <bob2> dazvid: modinfo drivernma,e perhaps
[11:42] <RezDawg> i thought this wouldnt be a problem, easy after all it aint encrypted...*sigh*
[11:42] <b0uncer> selinium, http://localhost:631/admin ought to open up cups's Admin section
[11:42] <Daedric> dazvid define "similar"
[11:42] <selinium> b0uncer, the web interfce is switched off by default
[11:42] <b0uncer> or so I've read
[11:42] <b0uncer> selinium, how to open it?
[11:42] <dazvid> bob2, I was hoping it would be the nvidia-glx one from the repos. However X isnt starting correctly when I modify the xorg.conf
[11:43] <selinium> b0uncer, trying to remember, only did it once!
[11:43] <bob2> dazvid: modinfo nvidia
[11:43] <b0uncer> selinium, ok :) I've never bumped into this kind of problem, so I'm on an enemy ground
[11:43] <selinium> :)
[11:43] <dazvid> bob2, That gives me a lot of info, however not the actual version number
[11:44] <b0uncer> "Listen 127.0.0.1:631" reads in cupsd.conf
[11:44] <b0uncer> but it won't open
[11:45] <GreenFireD> hello
[11:46] <nRasta> ciao
[11:46] <mustard5> wb GreenFireD
[11:46] <nRasta> i'm italian
[11:46] <mustard5> !it
[11:46] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[11:46] <frizzzzle> i'm not sure if this is bad or not... i keep getting warnings about my locale
[11:46] <b0uncer> is it normal _not_ to have "lo" in ifconfig ?
[11:47] <nRasta> dove  andiamo
[11:47] <selinium> b0uncer, Woo Hoo!    sudo adduser cupsys shadow
[11:47] <bob2> b0uncer: no
[11:47] <nRasta> !it
[11:47] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[11:47] <selinium> bob2, He wants to open the webmin for cups?
[11:48] <bob2> ok
[11:48] <b0uncer> bob2, ?
[11:48] <highvoltage> I love Ubuntu!
[11:48] <GreenFireD> I installed KDE(kubuntu-desktop), tryed it, and now I want to delete it. I removed kubuntu-desktop from synaptic, but I have seen the KDE's options(settings) in Gnome still, and I choose KDE when I am turning op computer
[11:48] <bob2> 19:46:58        b0uncer |  is it normal _not_ to have "lo" in ifconfig ?
[11:48] <bob2> 19:47:24           bob2 | b0uncer: no
[11:48] <b0uncer> bob2, ok...why's that?
[11:49] <bob2> GreenFireD: remove kdelibs4
[11:49] <bob2> b0uncer: ?
[11:49] <GreenFireD> mustard5, TS is working also :) and amaroK :))
[11:49] <GreenFireD> bob2, That is all?
[11:49] <Guybrush|Numb> bouncer: maybe you pressed ctrl-c during boot when DHCP failed
[11:49] <Guybrush|Numb> ?
[11:49] <ktogias> I run on an Intel Celeron. Should Is it advisable to install linux-image-686 and remove linux-image-386 ?
[11:49] <lucaas> b0uncer, i have to run sudo ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up
[11:49] <lucaas> on startup
[11:49] <b0uncer> selinium, still no webinterface ?
[11:49] <bob2> ktogias: former
[11:50] <lucaas> b0uncer, otherwise it wont start
[11:50] <b0uncer> lucaas, ok, trying..
[11:50] <ktogias> bob2, you mean I should use linux-image-686 ?
[11:50] <b0uncer> now I get "connection refused" :P
[11:50] <Guybrush|Numb> lucaas, b0uncer: you shouldn't have to
[11:50] <bob2> ktogias: you can if you want
[11:50] <Guybrush|Numb> ktogia: yes, it is better but not necessary
[11:51] <b0uncer> hey then what I do
[11:51] <selinium> b0uncer, you can't login using your name/password?
[11:51] <lucaas> Guybrush|Numb, i should't, but i have to ;o
[11:51] <b0uncer> selinium, trying to open that address bounces a pop-up in firefox telling me connection refused
[11:51] <ktogias> bob2, What are the benefits?
[11:51] <GreenFireD> what is the defferent between removal and completly removal?
[11:51] <mustard5> GreenFireD, complete removal removes config files
[11:51] <bob2> ktogias: might be slightly faster, supports more RAM
[11:52] <Guybrush|Numb> lucaas, b0uncer : check the network init scripts
[11:52] <b0uncer> hey!
[11:52] <b0uncer> now it opened!
[11:52] <b0uncer> yeaaah! :)
[11:52] <selinium> b0uncer, :)
[11:52] <GreenFireD> mustard5, do i need them?
[11:52] <Guybrush|Numb> in particular /etc/network/interfaces
[11:52] <mustard5> what are you removing?
[11:52] <logikal> is there some search tool i can use
[11:52] <logikal> to search for image files?
[11:52] <selinium> logikal, whre from? the web?
[11:53] <logikal> my computer..
[11:53] <logikal> im on kubuntu
[11:53] <lucaas> well, Guybrush|Numb, i have the lo section there, as usuall
[11:53] <selinium> locate jpg
[11:53] <Sudo> !theme
[11:53] <ubotu> Sudo: Are you on ritalin?
[11:53] <Sudo> !themes
[11:53] <selinium> logikal,  locate jpg in a term, you may need to run sudo updatedb.
[11:54] <logikal> need to search a windows mounted drive
[11:54] <lucaas> Guybrush|Numb, do i need the "auto lo" line?
[11:54] <Sudo> hi all
[11:54] <mustard5> GreenFireD, if you don't need the software anymore and don't feel the loss of whatever configuration you have already done on it is worth anything then it won't matter
[11:54] <logikal> a mounted hard drive
[11:54] <b0uncer> oh boy oh boy my printer's doing the job like a young kid! wehee
[11:54] <b0uncer> thanks a lot guys! :)
[11:54] <Guybrush|Numb> lucaas, yep
[11:54] <Sudo> anyone here got a ipod nano ?
[11:54] <gmhafiz> Hello everyone. Is there any way of removing Ubuntu which is installed on a separate partition than Windows? How do I get rid of Grub?
[11:55] <bob2> gmhafiz: #windows, your question is "How do I get windows to reinstall it's bootloader?"
[11:55] <GreenFireD> mustard5, thansk
[11:55] <lucaas> Guybrush|Numb, okay, i have that line + iface lo inet loopback + ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up
[11:55] <GreenFireD> mustard5, thanks
[11:55] <gmhafiz> ok
[11:55] <Sudo> anyone here got a ipod nano ?
[11:55] <ubuntu_> hi
[11:55] <bob2> Sudo: no need to ask more than once
[11:55] <ubuntu_> are we all using linux here?
[11:55] <GreenFireD> bob2, ok i did, now i need to restart or something?
[11:55] <bob2> GreenFireD: ?
[11:55] <Guybrush|Numb> lucaas: the "ifconfig" stuff shouldn't be necessary
[11:55] <GreenFireD> after i removed kde
[11:56] <bob2> ubuntu_: do you have a specific question about ubuntu?
[11:56] <bob2> GreenFireD: no
[11:56] <ubuntu_> yes bob2
[11:56] <lucaas> Guybrush|Numb, it may be the same problem which makes me have to run pppoeconf too, it wont start automaticly
[11:56] <GreenFireD> bob2, ohh right, sorry my mistake
[11:56] <ubuntu_> its my first time to use this kind of operating system
[11:56] <logikal> how can i locate things on my windows partition?
[11:56] <bob2> GreenFireD: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:56] <bob2> logikal: where locate = ?
[11:56] <Guybrush|Numb> lucaas, do you have "network" linked in rc3.d ?
[11:56] <arwate> ghhafiz: IIRC: in windows, execute "fdisk /mbr" at the command line.
[11:56] <logikal> jpg
[11:57] <Sudo> bob2 how can i use a ipod nano with ubuntu Breezy Badger?
[11:57] <logikal> trying to locate an img file on my windows drive
[11:57] <bob2> Sudo: no idea
[11:57] <bob2> logikal: by name?
[11:57] <logikal> nah all jpgs
[11:57] <Sudo> bob2 how can i install my printer on ubuntu
[11:57] <Guybrush|Numb> Sudo: search on google for "ipod linux"
[11:57] <logikal> just need to find a certain dir
[11:57] <Sudo> kk Guybrush|Numb
[11:57] <Guybrush|Numb> Sudo, you should find an opensource project that works with the nano
[11:57] <frizzzzle> bob2, you have the patience of a monk.  i'm impressed.
[11:57] <bob2> logikal: locate -r \\.jpg$
[11:57] <Guybrush|Numb> i can't remember the name
[11:58] <Guybrush|Numb> probably you'll need the latest version from the site but i'm guessing
[11:58] <Sudo> Guybrush|Numb: What would it be called?
[11:58] <logikal> all that did was locate jpgs on this linux OS partition
[11:58] <bob2> logikal: then perhaps it didn't index the windows one yet
[11:59] <Guybrush|Numb> Sudo, wait
[11:59] <logikal> how do i make it index it?
[11:59] <bob2> logikal: alternatively, "find /wherever/the/windows/partition/is -name '*.jpg'"
[11:59] <lucaas> Guybrush|Numb, i have S20inetd, in /etc/rc3.d/
[11:59] <Sudo> Guybrush|Numb: ok
[11:59] <Guybrush|Numb> lucaas, i meant in rcS.d
[11:59] <Guybrush|Numb> sorry
[11:59] <Fufachew> where can I find linux-tree-2.6.12? i'd like to build kernel the ubuntu way if possible
[12:00] <ktogias> Opera Web Browser does not exist in repositories in Breezy?
[12:00] <logikal> omg
[12:00] <logikal> I just hit something
[12:00] <logikal> and owned myself.
[12:00] <RezDawg> nick
[12:00] <lucaas> Guybrush|Numb, okay, there i have: S40networking
[12:00] <Sudo> Guybrush|Numb: can you find out for me?
[12:00] <Guybrush|Numb> Sudo, checking...
[12:00] <bob2> ktogias: of course, no one but opera is allowed to distribute it
[12:01] <bob2> ktogias: microsoft excel is also not in ubunt
[12:01] <ztonzy> hey :)
[12:01] <Guybrush|Numb> lucaas, check for errors in dmesg or /var/log/messages
[12:01] <Sudo> Guybrush|Numb: ok
[12:01] <logikal> find: *.jpg: No such file or directory
[12:01] <ubuntu_> tify delta
[12:01] <ztonzy> why won't Totem Mozilla Plugin work ?
[12:01] <ubuntu_> lol
[12:01] <ktogias> bob2, In hoary it was somewhere in the repos...
[12:01] <bob2> ktogias: no, it was not
[12:02] <ktogias> bob2, Maybe i remember wrong...
[12:02] <mustard5> logikal, would the search function in 'Places' work if you navigated to the directory you have your partion mounted on?
[12:02] <Guybrush|Numb> Sudo
[12:02] <Guybrush|Numb> yamipod
[12:02] <ubuntu_> hi guys i have a question how to join a windows workgroup in ubunto?
[12:02] <Guybrush|Numb> Sudo, http://www.yamipod.com/main/modules/home/
[12:02] <bob2> ubuntu_: where "join" = ?
[12:02] <wezzer> Everytime I open up terminal, I have to change character encoding from UTF-8 to Nordic. Is it possible to change it constant?
[12:02] <bob2> ubuntu_: authenticate against? see shares?
[12:02] <Sudo> thanks Guybrush|Numb thats what i was looking for but couldnt find the site
[12:02] <Sudo> lol
[12:03] <Guybrush|Numb> you welcome
[12:03] <Guybrush|Numb> gotta go now
[12:03] <Guybrush|Numb> cya
[12:03] <TheMan34> i mean i have a a windows network like to join the windows workgroup sorry new to this
[12:04] <logikal> where do sony cameras save files to?
[12:04] <TheMan34> to access the shares
[12:04] <Fufachew> any idea which repository has linux-tree-2.6.12?  i'm using hoary
[12:04] <mustard5> logikal, in your HOME directory I would say
[12:04] <logikal> no on windows
[12:04] <mustard5> logikal, no idea...My Documents?
[12:05] <andii> anyone know where the screenshot files are stored by default (Breezy)?
[12:05] <TheMan34> so i cant see windows shares on a local network?
[12:05] <mustard5> what directory did you mount your windows partion on logikal ?
[12:05] <Belutz> andii, Desktop
[12:05] <ktogias> andii, on your desktop
[12:06] <LePoulpe303> hi all
[12:06] <andii> Thanks Belutz. But that's not where they are ... any other ideas?
[12:06] <TheMan34> i mean i have a a windows network like to join the windows workgroup to see the shares sorry new to this
[12:06] <Belutz> andii, do you remeber the file name?
[12:07] <guim> hi all, I would like to install lincvs on breezy
[12:07] <frizzzzle> ahaha it's done.  a drum roll, please....
[12:07] <guim> but synaptic doesn't let me do it because of dependances
[12:08] <redlounge> andii: you could press the print button again and look at the default folder in the popup
[12:08] <guim> anyone knows what is the exact repositroy i am supposed to use ?
[12:08] <Sudo> how do i move a file too another folder via. terminal?
[12:08] <mustard5> andii, hit ctrl -r to refresh maybe?
[12:08] <bob2> guim: uh, the breezy ones?
[12:08] <guim> it doesn't work
[12:08] <andii> I just used the screen shot icon in the System menu and pretty much nothing appeared to happen; I assumed thi] e file had gon elsewher...
[12:08] <bob2> yes, it's broken
[12:08] <Sudo> how do i move a file too another folder via. terminal?
[12:08] <bob2> guim: sudo apt-get build-dep lincvs ; apt-get source -b lincvs, install the .debs
[12:09] <Fufachew> i will need to use the breezy suppository
[12:09] <redlounge> andii: a popup should appear where you can save the file...
[12:09] <Belutz> andii, it should ask you for the filename and the directory where would you save it
[12:09] <mustard5> andii, mine brings up a menu asking me where to save......
[12:09] <guim> I was using this soft, just upgrade to breezy and now I don't have it any longer
[12:09] <TheMan34> hmmmmm
[12:09] <Sudo> bob2 do you know how?
[12:09] <bob2> Sudo: mv
[12:09] <bob2> guim: you shouldn't have let apt remove it
[12:09] <bob2> guim: it did warn you
[12:09] <guim> bob2, yes, but I expected to do it with the "normal" way
[12:09] <Sudo> bob2 mv FILE FOLDER ?
[12:10] <bob2> Sudo: indeed
[12:10] <Sudo> so say from desktop too /usr/lib
[12:10] <guim> bob2, yes maybe...
[12:10] <bob2> guim: no, not maybe
[12:10] <bob2> Sudo: what are you doing?
[12:10] <Sudo> bob2 would look like mv /home/steffan/Desktop/yam-linux /usr/lib
[12:10] <Sudo> moving a file
[12:10] <Sudo> but need superuser privalidges
[12:10] <andii> that's what I thought should happen; last time months ago. Im just wondering whether updating to Breezy has broken something: xclipboard appears to be out too...
[12:11] <mustard5> I'm on breezy, so I can only assume something is broken on yours...
[12:11] <bob2> Sudo: no, why are you dumping crap in /usr/lib to begin with?
[12:11] <andii> bother!
[12:11] <LePoulpe303> please anyone can help ?   i have aproblem with executing a python program using wxpython on a german ubuntu that  has made hoary=> breezy transition ; it seems it's an C++ ABI problem (102 instead of 1002) ; where can i find information to solve that ?
[12:11] <Sudo> bob2 im installing yamipod which needs a modex too be moved too /usr/lib
[12:11] <bob2> Sudo: "modex" is not a word
[12:12] <guim> apt-get build-dep lincvs <-- impossible to find sources
[12:12] <bob2> LePoulpe303: wxpython in breezy is not installable?
[12:12] <Sudo> bob2 well i file named libfmodex.35
[12:12] <bob2> guim: that's not what it said, paste the real error to #flood
[12:12] <Sudo> needs too be moved too /usr/lib
[12:12] <bob2> Sudo: it's really called that?
[12:12] <Sudo> bob2 yes
[12:12] <theine> Sudo, better install the w32codecs package
[12:13] <theine> please ignore me...
[12:13] <bob2> Sudo: that won't work, anyway
[12:13] <LePoulpe303> bob2 : the projects works well on : winxp , ubuntu breezy french ; i have checked libs between the 2 ubuntus ; all is the same (gcc, wx , etc)
[12:13] <bob2> Sudo: it needs a ".so."
[12:13] <rudy^> hi
[12:13] <bob2> LePoulpe303: I don't understand your question then, sorry
[12:14] <guim> done bob2
[12:14] <Fufachew> so can i just replace "hoary" with "breezy" in /etc/apt/sources.list and do apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:14] <LePoulpe303> bob2 : i have following message   http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1920
[12:15] <mustard5> Fufachew, sudo apt-get update ..then dist upgrade
[12:15] <rem_> apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:15] <LePoulpe303> bob2 : only difference : one is ubuntu german that made hoary->breezy transition, other one is freshly installed french ubuntu
[12:15] <Sudo> i got it done now
[12:15] <bob2> guim: ah, oh well
[12:15] <mustard5> Fufachew, and there are no backports in breezy
[12:15] <theine> Sudo, how?
[12:15] <bob2> Fufachew: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[12:15] <guim> yes, well
[12:15] <Sudo> theine coz im clever ;)
[12:16] <bob2> guim: apt-cache showsrc lincvs
[12:16] <theine> Sudo, did you set LD_LIBRARY_PATH ?
[12:16] <bob2> guim: install all the build-dependencies manually
[12:16] <bob2> guim: then install libqt3-mt-dev and build-essential
[12:16] <bob2> guim: then the apt-get source thing
[12:17] <whaley> could anyone provide some guidance to me on installing nvidia drivers using legacy drivers per this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=431195&postcount=9
[12:17] <noorman> Trying to enter the backport repository in the sources.list  Cant get it right. What do I f.ex enter? deb ... (I use breezy and i386) Please HELP :)
[12:17] <guim> but if the package is in the debian unstable, as non-free ?
[12:17] <guim> is n't that easier?
[12:17] <Sudo> theine no need
[12:17] <bob2> guim: wtf, no.
[12:17] <Sudo> theine is there a good program for web designing on ubuntu
[12:17] <bob2> noorman: don't use them at all
[12:17] <Sudo> apart from nvu and bluefish
[12:17] <guim> bob2, wtf?
[12:17] <theine> sudo, so did you move the file to /usr/lib or what?
[12:17] <noorman> no? why?
[12:17] <bob2> guim: just do what I said
[12:18] <Sudo> theine is there a good program for web designing on ubuntu
[12:18] <bob2> noorman: breezy has no backports, surprisingly
[12:18] <guim> well, ok i try
[12:18] <bob2> also, if you don't know how to use them, you're unlikely to be able to fix it after they break your system
[12:18] <PTK> hey, I'm trying to install breezy on a laptop but the keyboard just won't work :(
[12:18] <noorman> bob2, Well gtkpod-aac package is not available without it I think :(
[12:18] <PTK> actually it works if I do acpi=off but then the network doesn't work
[12:18] <PTK> any ideas?
[12:18] <theine> Sudo, except those two? maybe quanta
[12:18] <bob2> noorman: that's a shame
[12:19] <bob2> PTK: file a bug
[12:19] <bob2> whaley: that question made no sense
[12:19] <noorman> then what? I cant use backport?
[12:19] <bob2> whaley: "have a GEFORCE2 GTS, which needs the legacy drivers. I've followed the directions in Help->Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide->Hardware but instead of using nvidia-glx-legacy."
[12:19] <bob2> noorman: yes
[12:19] <Fufachew> thanks bob2
[12:19] <noorman> bob2, yes to cant use it then :)
[12:19] <LePoulpe303> anyone may help for my C++ ABI problem ?  http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1920
[12:20] <bob2> noorman: non-free crap like that was never in backports, it was in "omg hoary-extras"
[12:20] <noorman> ok
[12:20] <bob2> ask the backport monkeys on the forums if you want it for breezy
[12:20] <noorman> suppose I want it then... How
[12:20] <theine> Sudo, in any case, if you don't want to mess around in /usr/lib, you can do "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd` && ./YamiPod", provided you are in the directory where the YamiPod executable is located
[12:20] <noorman> k
[12:21] <vnpaven> How many CDs do I need to have when I install FULL Ubuntu?
[12:21] <bob2> LePoulpe303: compile your software again on the linux machine?
[12:21] <bob2> vnpaven: that makes no sense unless you define "FULL"
[12:21] <bob2> vnpaven: also, there's only one CD of ubuntu
[12:21] <vnpaven> what is the LIVE CD?
[12:21] <bob2> a seperate cd
[12:22] <LePoulpe303> bob2 : python is interpreted not compiled
[12:22] <Micksa> *sigh*
[12:22] <NrWarren> why you guys so serious about linux? lol
[12:22] <Micksa> okay, so I'm using breezy and I have no beeps. what do I do?
[12:22] <bob2> NrWarren: 'serious'?
[12:22] <NrWarren> yes
[12:22] <Micksa> other sound works okay, the startup sound works at least
[12:23] <Tomcat_> NrWarren: Define "serious" :o
[12:23] <NrWarren> everyone who uses linux always act so serious and uptight. lol like learning it caused such a pain on them that they are strict and disciplined.
[12:23] <bob2> NrWarren: you're welcome to whatever incorrect opinions you might have
[12:23] <mllr> ?
[12:23] <NrWarren> lol
[12:23] <NrWarren> yay
[12:23] <ajmitch_> NrWarren: you've obviously never had a drink with the ubuntu developers then ;)
[12:23] <vnpaven> bob2: When do I need live CD?
[12:24] <Tomcat_> NrWarren: I don't see myself as being serious about it... if people want to use Windows or MacOS, they're free to do it. I won't force my opinion on them. :>
[12:24] <bob2> vnpaven: do you know what the live cd is?
[12:24] <NrWarren> i guess. lol i'm not really sure what ubuntu is, havnt taken the time to read.
[12:24] <Micksa> ah fsck, the thing was just muted...
[12:24] <Micksa> uhm...
[12:24] <vnpaven> "The Ubuntu team is proud to announce Ubuntu 5.10 "The Breezy Badger". It includes Install CDs, bootable Live CDs, and combination DVDs for three architectures, and ships with GNOME 2.12."
[12:24] <whaley> bob2> whaley: that question made no sense <--- what part didn't make sense?
[12:24] <Fufachew> personally, i'm way too serious and uptight. that's why i'm using a breezy suppository
[12:24] <NrWarren> lol
[12:24] <fredmorcos> hey guys
[12:25] <fredmorcos> need help getting apt-build to work on breezy
[12:25] <bob2> whaley: the bit I pasted
[12:25] <bob2> fredmorcos: why bother?
[12:25] <NrWarren> Tomcat_: at least you're open-minded, I think maybe I just run into the wrong linux users.
[12:25] <bob2> vnpaven: if you don't know what it is, you don't need it
[12:25] <whaley> oh, poor grammar on my part... it was late when i posted that
[12:26] <fredmorcos> bob2, need to get more optimizations..
[12:26] <whaley> i meant to say i have to use nvidia's legacy drivers in lieu of the regular ones due to my card
[12:26] <bob2> fredmorcos: hahaha
[12:26] <whaley> regardless, i assume the process would have been the same
[12:26] <fredmorcos> bob2, whats wrong?
[12:26] <bob2> fredmorcos: what program did you benchmark and find worked significantly faster with special gcc flags?
[12:26] <NrWarren> maybe its because linux is more down to business, and windows is not. lol
[12:27] <fredmorcos> bob2, i didn't benchmark any, but my gentoo installation worked a lot faster than ubuntu (with the same exact packages installed)
[12:28] <whaley> bob2: edited that post... possibly it makes more sense
[12:28] <mllr> NrWarren: are you running linux?
[12:28] <Jowi> hi all
[12:28] <fredmorcos> bob2, maybe x and gnome need optimizing.. they're kind of a big part of the slow bootup
[12:28] <mllr> jowi: hey..
[12:28] <bob2> fredmorcos: hahaha
[12:29] <whaley> fredmorcos: how much did you play with your use flags and compiler settings
[12:29] <bob2> fredmorcos: benchmark it then and show that it's useful
[12:29] <whaley> in gentoo
[12:29] <action09> hi, can't find this info , but i'm sure i rode it, how can i change the default app which launch e.g. some .csv file  ? actually it's less, i want to laucch by ooffice2
[12:29] <action09> tia
[12:29] <bob2> fredmorcos: and then the ubuntu people will apply the patch for everyone
[12:29] <guim> bob2, i solved it in another way, thanks anyway
[12:29] <guim> it wasn't necessary to install from source
[12:29] <fredmorcos> bob2, let me make it this way, i just want to play around with apt-build
[12:30] <bob2> fredmorcos: great.  first you'll need to fix it so it works
[12:30] <Jowi> just for fun, today i installed fvwm95. I've got no close, maximise or minimise button-icons. anyone else's got this prob?
[12:30] <niri> re
[12:30] <cef> I want to copy music from my pc to my mp3 player in an organised fashion: ie: something so I can organise playlists and then copy the files in the playlists to my mp3 player.. any suggestions?
[12:31] <Jowi> cef: i have not tried this; can't you drag'n'drop from rhythmbox into the player?
[12:32] <cef> Jowi: I probably could.. I was hoping for something a bit more elegant, say that rsync'd stuff to the player rather than just copying it
[12:32] <fredmorcos> bob2, actually it's working, it does some compiling then says: sorry, there is no package to install
[12:32] <Jowi> cef: ah, ok
[12:33] <cef> Jowi: though I'm only just starting to use rhythmbox.. it seems a bit clunky.. spose I'll just have to lodge some bugs.. *grin*
[12:33] <NrWarren> mllr: no
[12:33] <[maven] > how can I tell apache to only accept connections from localhost?
[12:34] <Jowi> cef: i've been pretty happy with rhythmbox. no crashes or bugs so far :)
[12:34] <whaley> brb
[12:34] <onkarshinde> How reliable is memtest86+?
[12:34] <Jowi> [maven] : give your url to someone in here and let them try to reach your server?
[12:34] <cef> Jowi: least one bug: when it's indexing what files are on your machine, it hits the disk and cpu pretty hard, to the point music skips
[12:35] <ubentoo> hello there
[12:35] <[maven] > i know it accepts connections from the outside, I just want to know how to *disable* that... ;)
[12:35] <Sudo> anyone here used yamipod?
[12:35] <fredmorcos> what arguments should i use with prelink??? i used -amR and now my system is really slow :s
[12:35] <locomorto> Sudo: use gtk-pod
[12:36] <Jowi> [maven] : no, but really. one thing you can do is in /etc/hosts.deny add "httpd: ALL" and in /etc/hosts.allow add "httpd: localhost"
[12:36] <ubentoo> do you know if it is possible to tweak a system with sata and ata disks ? I have always experienced that tha sata is slow when ata disks are connected to tho motherboard , i though perhaps there are ways to tweak this
[12:37] <Sudo> locomorto: gtkpod doesnt work with ipod nano
[12:37] <Jowi> [maven] : maybe that's a hack solution but it work
[12:37] <aftertaf> when i run xine the screen shows but it is all messy, like there is interference on it. rest of x works ok. ot tested another video player yet.... what could it be? framebuffer?
[12:37] <cef> ubentoo: you might want to check your bios settings.. a number of SATA controllers put themselves into a backward compatible mode, particularly if the machine also has a PATA controller
[12:38] <bob2> fredmorcos: right, so that's a long-winded way of saying that it doesn't work
[12:38] <Sudo> !ipod
[12:38] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[12:38] <cef> [maven] : either that, or edit the apache config and specify the bind address as 127.0.0.1
[12:39] <corincole> hey all
[12:39] <Jowi> hi corincole
[12:39] <corincole> can anyone tell me the repositorie which is community run which includes prboom etc. ?
[12:39] <[maven] > cef: where would that be? apache2.conf? httpd.conf? sites-enabled/000-default?
[12:39] <corincole> :)
[12:40] <cef> [maven] : I think sites-enabled/000-default is a symlink.. but the files it points to is the one
[12:41] <aftertaf> tested with vlc and totem, same pb. cruddy video output.....
[12:41] <aftertaf> anyone know where & why this happening?
[12:42] <amano60> Hello #Ubuntu - i have been looking for an idiots guide on how to install it - must boot from a floppy
[12:42] <wouterd> How can I set my hdparm settings to be remembered the next time I boot my box?
[12:42] <cef> aftertaf: mebbe video driver.. or if you've upgraded and were using xine/etc before, then you may need to reinstall w32codecs
[12:43] <Jowi> wouterd: /etc/hdparm.conf
[12:43] <aftertaf> reinstall? ok, i'll try - changed gfx card from ati pci to onboard agp matrox
[12:43] <wouterd> Jowi: ok tnx
[12:43] <fredmorcos> bob2, sorry?
[12:44] <cef> aftertaf: if you've upgraded from hoary to breezy that is.. I found that the old w32codecs were screwy with newer binaries
[12:44] <Micksa> why is grep on breezy so arse slow?
[12:44] <aftertaf> cef:  they were breezy (or etch) binaries.
[12:45] <aftertaf> are the etch w32 binaries the same as the ones ubotu gives us  " or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)" ??
[12:46] <cef> aftertaf: ahh they're the etch ones? should be fine.. if they're from sarge, then they have issues
[12:46] <redeeman> aftertaf: i believe so
[12:46] <aftertaf> both say 20050412
[12:46] <aftertaf> ok
[12:46] <redeeman> aftertaf: there is a deb for ubuntu which also has it
[12:47] <cef> aftertaf: I just remember upgrading from hoary to breezy and video playback was stuffed.. removing w32codecs and then installing it from the etch binaries (as per the wiki) worked
[12:47] <redeeman> aftertaf: deb http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[12:49] <aftertaf> w32codecs weren't installed when it was hoary though
[12:51] <aftertaf> ill try that repos redeeman :)
[12:51] <redeeman> it's nice, it has java and win32codecs
[12:51] <redeeman> allthough i dont use ubuntu myself :P
[12:52] <onkarshinde> redeeman: Who has built that repos?
[12:52] <surfk> hi! what GUI based CD writer software do you recommend for ubuntu?
[12:52] <redeeman> onkarshinde: dont know, but i saw it, and it works
[12:52] <Jowi> freshly installed fvwm95. I've got no close, maximise or minimise button-icons. anyone else's got this prob? (fwvm95-icons are installed)
[12:52] <aftertaf> i think its gfx card based though.... we changed the gfx card to the integrated matrox card.
[12:53] <aftertaf> i reconf'ed xorg but now there isthis pb.
[12:53] <cef> surfk: I use gnomebaker a bit.. seems ok to me, but YMMV
[12:53] <Jowi> surfk: graveman is nice
[12:53] <onkarshinde> surfk: gnome-baker
[12:54] <afd_> How do I disable/change the window manager animation when minimizing (gnome 2.12)
[12:55] <onkarshinde> Jowi: IIRC, fwvm has a menu on left corner of window, which can be accessed by clicking on left corner (a small rectangle or something like that)
[12:56] <surfk> cef,Jowi,onkarshinde, thx
[12:58] <LazyAngel> Does anyone know how i kill the pc-speaker in ubuntu?
[12:58] <Jowi> onkarshinde: yeah, i've got all the modules working. it's just the close, max and min buttons on the window-titlebar that doesn't show icons, i only have rectangles as buttons. seems like fvwm cannot find the pixmaps or something for them....
[12:58] <ccooke> LazyAngel: cut the wire that goes to it.
[12:58] <Fufachew> lazyangel: open up your case and unplug the bastard
[12:58] <cef> Jowi: know if graveman will copy a DVD data disk? most of the tools seem to only do cd's
[12:58] <Jowi> ah, coffe finally ready
[12:59] <LazyAngel> i hoped i didnt have to do that. so much hazzle :)
[12:59] <Fufachew> theres probably a software way.. i just prefer no beeps period
[12:59] <ccooke> Well, I've known a few people rewire it into the 'turbo' button (this is a *long* while ago :-) so they could mute and unmute it at will :-)
[12:59] <ccooke> Fufachew: not really. It's a really simple low-level device
[12:59] <ccooke> no actual drivers necessary
[01:00] <Jowi> cef: i don't know. it's got a "duplicate cd" option, i don't know if that includes dvd as well. you can choose source and output device so it might be worth a try.
[01:01] <cef> Jowi: hrmm .. will have to give it a try I guess.. either that.. or a simple way of ripping an iso of a data DVD would do.. *grin*
[01:05] <Jowi> cef: "duplicate cd", select "duplicate from: your dvd drive" select "Write to: iso file...". good luck :-)
[01:05] <cef> Jowi: heh.. *grin*
[01:05] <elad`> How's the program that lets you install deb files (not kynaptic, debs you've downloaded from god knows where) called?
[01:05] <elad`> KDE package manager or something?
[01:06] <aftertaf> elad`:  synaptic? no   dpkg
[01:06] <bimberi> elad`: i only know dpkg (in a terminal)
[01:06] <Jowi> elad`: from the console you can type "dpkg -i package.deb"
[01:06] <Jowi> elad`: don't forget "sudo" infront of the command
[01:06] <bimberi> i think we had consensus there :)
[01:07] <Jowi> bimberi: yeah finally! I was getting tired of all disagreeing people :-P
[01:07] <elad`> :P
[01:07] <bimberi> lol Jowi
[01:07] <aftertaf> http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/
[01:07] <Jowi> bimberi: people should do it MY way or not at all.
[01:07] <Jowi> haha
[01:07] <cef> LazyAngel: nothing listed in the volume control like, say, PC Speaker?
[01:07] <alexissoft> hi
[01:08] <Jowi> hello alexissoft
[01:08] <bimberi> Jowi: too right, as long as it agrees with my way :P
[01:08] <cef> LazyAngel: I have that, but then again, I'm using a laptop, so YMMV
[01:09] <surfk> how to enable turning on the numlock on startup?
[01:09] <aftertaf> numlockx ?
[01:10] <Jowi> surfk: sudo apt-get install numlockx
[01:11] <Jowi> there used to be a "normal" numlock that is enabled at boot, but i haven't seen it the past 6 months...
[01:11] <michoelchaikin> or is this the wrong place- i dont want 2 upset any1
[01:11] <surfk> Jowi,thx!
[01:12] <mustard5> michoelchaikin, whats your question?
[01:12] <Jowi> michoelchaikin: ask away and you might get an answer :)
[01:12] <elad`> http://pastebin.com/400764
[01:12] <cef> Jowi: hah.. complains about the wrong media type
[01:12] <Jowi> cef: crap. oh well. now i know
[01:14] <michoelchaikin> lol - firstly i ordered a ship-it of ubuntu, how long till it comes?
[01:14] <elad`> My sources.list must be wrong. Where do I find the default sources.list, the one that comes with Ubuntu?
[01:14] <Jowi> elad`: seems like you have conflicting sources. same package exist in different repos. disable what is conflicting in /etc/apt/sources.list or choose the packages from synaptic
[01:14] <shawarma> michoelchaikin: Last time it took about a month for me..
[01:14] <michoelchaikin> ok its been 20 days
[01:14] <mustard5> michoelchaikin, ah ok.... there will be significant delays I would think with breezy just coming out
[01:15] <michoelchaikin> now will it connect to my windows network, can i share my internet connection?
[01:15] <bimberi> !+repos
[01:15] <ubotu> I heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[01:15] <bimberi> elad`: ^^^^
[01:15] <shawarma> michoelchaikin: It says they will ship about a week after release. The release was last thursday so the first will have shipped yesterday.. So don't wait up. :-D
[01:16] <michoelchaikin> so u mean a month from once it was shipped then?
[01:16] <mustard5> yes
[01:16] <shawarma> michoelchaikin: Yup
[01:16] <michoelchaikin> well, i look forward to it
[01:16] <mustard5> me too michoelchaikin :)
[01:17] <michoelchaikin> it comes with a live cd or something, that i can run w/o installing
[01:17] <michoelchaikin> ?
[01:17] <Jowi> michoelchaikin: you will get a live cd and an install cd
[01:17] <michoelchaikin> great
[01:17] <michoelchaikin> can anyone answer about the network?
[01:18] <Jowi> michoelchaikin: if you have connection sharing set up on your windows machine there should be no problem. if you want to share connection from Ubuntu you will have to set it up
[01:18] <michoelchaikin> i have a NETGEAR WG111v2 wifi network at home, two other winxps
[01:18] <michoelchaikin> and a router
[01:19] <Jowi> michoelchaikin: then you have no problem. just connect it to your router by cable and you're connected
[01:19] <michoelchaikin> and all my files can also be shared across the two OS's right?
[01:19] <Jowi> michoelchaikin: setup samba on your linux box and you can share.
[01:19] <michoelchaikin> that means that my linux will be a server?
[01:20] <michoelchaikin> bc as it is its all throught the router
[01:20] <Jowi> michoelchaikin: you can choose. samba server or just a client
[01:20] <michoelchaikin> and how do i verify that that router will work, or do i have to wait to see?
[01:21] <Jowi> michoelchaikin: it's easy setup with the router. no special config should be needed. but samba need to be installed for sharing files.
[01:21] <Jowi> michoelchaikin: all router will work.
[01:21] <mustard5> michoelchaikin, you can always download and burn an iso if you are keen to check it all out now
[01:21] <Jowi> michoelchaikin: the type of router you have make no difference.
[01:21] <michoelchaikin> yeah but i got huge banwidth probs
[01:21] <mustard5> k
[01:22] <mustard5> use a friends bandwidth heheh ;)
[01:22] <michoelchaikin> right guys thanks alot
[01:22] <michoelchaikin> hope everything works out, looking forward!
[01:22] <mustard5> come back when you need more help michoelchaikin
[01:22] <mustard5> :)
[01:22] <michoelchaikin> thanks
[01:23] <michoelchaikin> here in south africa that dsl lines are capped
[01:23] <michoelchaikin> after 3 gigs it just stops working
[01:23] <michoelchaikin> so even my friends wont have
[01:23] <mustard5> yep
[01:24] <kuLitZ_gal> is there any automated tool for measuring dsl download/upload speeds?
[01:25] <Jowi> kuLitZ_gal: http://www.dslreports.com/stest?more=1
[01:25] <elad`> Do I want the deb-src-s uncommented?
[01:25] <mustard5> elad`, not unless you need source
[01:25] <Jowi> kuLitZ_gal: that should measure your connection speed at least...
[01:25] <bimberi> elad`: not usually
[01:26] <LazyAngel> In case someone was wondering: Howto disable pc speaker: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_NoBeep
[01:26] <reiki> this may sound like a dumb question but is there any reason why traceroute would not work in the default install? I'm talking aBOUT THE gui in System Tools ->Network Tools. It simply times out all connections.
[01:27] <kuLitZ_gal> Jowi: is there any that i can use at the terminal or set via cron?
[01:27] <Oetzi> hi
[01:27] <Oetzi> can anyone tell me where i can find package gnome-netmd
[01:28] <Jowi> kuLitZ_gal: i don't know. i actually never thought of testing the bandwith since i know what i have.
[01:28] <elad`> !+repos
[01:28] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[01:29] <MaTaKs> how to unzip the .zip file on terminal?
[01:29] <reiki> MaTaKs, try gunzip filename
[01:29] <MaTaKs> ok thnx dude
[01:30] <johnm> reiki: gunzip is for a different algorithm.
[01:30] <Jowi> isn't the command simply "unzip"
[01:30] <johnm> Jowi: yes.
[01:30] <reiki> johnm, really?  oh wait you're right... I think gunzip is for .gz files
[01:30] <Oetzi> just use unzip
[01:30] <reiki> my bad
[01:31] <reiki> that's what I get for trying to answer a questin before I finish my coffee
[01:31] <mustard5> :)
[01:31] <mustard5> I would have said gunzip :D
[01:31] <Jowi> reiki: a sugarcube make all the difference :-P
[01:32] <reiki> ACK!  I can't put sugar in coffee.... that's more like dessert! :)
[01:32] <onkarshinde> Does anyone know if eclipse from repos is faster than normal eclipse?
[01:32] <odie5533> Anyone know why when I watch a movie with totem-xine and use firefox at the same time, my Ubuntu Breezy freezes up?
[01:33] <rata> Hi
[01:33] <odie5533> Hi rata
[01:33] <Jowi> odie5533: that should not happen. all movie-files affected? have you disabled the "helpers" in firefox so you play through totem instead of in firefox itself?
[01:34] <nvm> hi. im new to linux, and I want xmms, how should i do?
[01:34] <Jowi> in = within
[01:34] <mustard5> nvm sudo apt-get install xmms
[01:34] <Jowi> nvm: xmms should be installed by default. if it isn't... mustard5 gave you the answer :)
[01:34] <odie5533> Jowi: I am watching the movie in totem xine of a downloaded file. And using firerox seperately
[01:34] <nvm> ok where do I write that?
[01:34] <mustard5> nvm you use terminal commands ?
[01:34] <odie5533> it was a pre-downloaded file, like run off my home folder
[01:35] <nvm> ok :S
[01:35] <rata> I am having problems to install flash plugin using firefox, not de apt-way... i probe deleting my .mozilla, but it continues happening.... any idea ?
[01:35] <onkarshinde> anyone using eclipse on ubuntu here?
[01:35] <Jowi> nvm: open a terminal
[01:35] <Zukero> yeah
[01:35] <nvm> (windows user, linux noob)
[01:35] <nvm> ok
[01:35] <rata> nvm, use synaptic
[01:35] <Jowi> odie5533: strange. i have no idea...
[01:35] <mustard5> nvm thats ok  thats why we are here ;)
[01:35] <nvm> hehe
[01:35] <nvm> alright.. im in the terminal
[01:35] <aeon17x> nvm: you should start reading a lot now, you'll need it in the coming weeks.
[01:36] <reiki> ok... different form of maybe the same question...do I need to open ports on my router for traceroute to work?
[01:36] <odie5533> Jowi: As it is, its forzen like 10 times because of this. Makes me want to go back to windows. At least on windows I could use the pc for a couple weeks without it crashing. I've only had ubuntu for 2 days and its crashed more than windows in 2 years...
[01:36] <nvm> yeah i know.. never used commands before.. what is "sudo"?
[01:36] <mustard5> nvm ' sudo apt-get install xmms ' and put your user password in
[01:36] <mustard5> nvm sudo is 'superuser do
[01:36] <nvm> ok thx
[01:36] <aeon17x> reiki: if you could access the internet just fine, then traceroute should go through without opening new ports, I think.
[01:37] <El_Che> aeon17x: trraceroute uses icmp packets
[01:37] <reiki> aeon17x, that's what I thought too, but traceroute from command line says traceroute not found, and using the gui tool it just times out
[01:37] <El_Che> aeon17x: very possible you can surf but nog ping
[01:37] <mustard5> nvm, installing stuff requires the right 'privileges', so you need to be a superuser  hence the use of 'sudo'
[01:37] <bimberi> reiki: you might need to install the traceroute package
[01:37] <aeon17x> odie5533: take a look at the syslog, maybe you can see what causes it to crash.
[01:37] <Sudo> anyone got some good aps or a site with a list for me?
[01:38] <Jowi> odie5533: i can easilly understand that. i never had a firefox crash.
[01:38] <aeon17x> El_Che: didn't know that, sorry. >_<
[01:38] <nvm> mustard5,  yeah I have the root pass.
[01:38] <odie5533> aeho, wheres the syslog?
[01:38] <Sudo> anyone got some good aps or a site with a list for me?
[01:38] <mustard5> nvm, you do it as normal user, not root
[01:38] <aeon17x> odie5533: Applications > System Tools > System Log
[01:38] <odie5533> firefox doesn't crash, everything does. It totally freezes my pc and I can't even ctrl f1 or ctrl alt backspace
[01:38] <mustard5> nvm, normal user password
[01:38] <nvm> ok
[01:38] <reiki> bimberi: ok I'll check to see if it's installed... if not that's kinda weird since it's in the menu for System Tools, Network Tools
[01:38] <nvm> ^^
[01:38] <Jowi> odie5533: totem-xine work well without firefox running? aeon17x gave you a good advice
[01:39] <bimberi> reiki: agreed
[01:39] <rata> I am having problems to install flash plugin using firefox, not de apt-way... i probe deleting my .mozilla, but it continues happening.... any idea ? (here is an screen shot: http://gazer.com.ar/~rcampos/fierfox.png)
[01:39] <Jowi> Sudo: there are alot of apps if you open synaptic
[01:39] <Sudo> Jowi ok
[01:39] <odie5533> Any advice on reading this system log?
[01:39] <elad`> How do I upgrade (I have 5.04) WITHOUT having all this bloat I toiled so hard to rid myself of reinstalled?
[01:39] <aeon17x> Sudo: the external links in the Ubuntu Linux wikipedia article has a lot of good stuff in it.
[01:40] <nvm> mustard5, I have a Swedish version of Ubuntu, but it says something like: "Packet xmms is not available .... E: Packet xmms has no installation...."
[01:40] <aeon17x> odie5533: do you remember what is the exact time your PC crashed?
[01:40] <odie5533> 5 minutes ago or so
[01:40] <mustard5> nvm, you need to enable extra 'repositories'
[01:40] <mustard5> ubotu: tell nvm about repositories
[01:41] <aeon17x> odie5533: if you have the System Log Viewer open, look at /var/log/syslog, then scroll down to the time you crashed.
[01:41] <mustard5> nvm, look for a message from ubotu
[01:41] <nvm> thx
[01:41] <tony_the_cable_g> How do I update my Repositories list?
[01:41] <aeon17x> odie5533: They're mostly technical gibberish, but you should see a line or two with the words "shutting down" and "error" in it.
[01:41] <mustard5> tony_the_cable_g, hoary or breezy?
[01:42] <odie5533> Why are there so many things in the log?
[01:42] <odie5533> I saw sendmail? wtf? It shouldnt be sending mails to ppl!
[01:42] <mustard5> ubotu: tell tony_the_cable_g about repositories
[01:42] <tony_the_cable_g> Breezy.
[01:42] <mustard5> ubotu: tell tony_the_cable_g about sources
[01:42] <tony_the_cable_g> Thanks mustard5
[01:42] <mustard5> tony_the_cable_g, check pm from ubotu
[01:42] <mustard5> np ;)
[01:42] <bimberi> ubotu: stop spamming tony_the_cable_g :P
[01:42] <ubotu> bimberi: What?
[01:43] <mustard5> :)
[01:43] <bimberi> ouch :)
[01:43] <aeon17x> odie5533: freaky, eh... anyway, did you see what is causing your system to crash?
[01:43] <Fufachew> is ubotu a bot?
[01:43] <mustard5> Fufachew, yes
[01:43] <Jowi> Fufachew: yep
[01:43] <aeon17x> Fufachew: what the hell
[01:44] <odie5533> I can't tell where it is. I think I'll trry to look next time. Would playing it off an ntfs cause the problem? I copied the video file to my main hdd and it hasnt crashed :S
[01:44] <cef> grr, where has my /dev/cdrom gone.. *sigh*
[01:44] <kbrooks> odie5533: No
[01:45] <Hackphil> bonjour
[01:45] <kbrooks> odie5533: sendmail doesnt send mail to people -- you ttell it to
[01:45] <preparadores> epale
[01:45] <preparadores> buenas
[01:45] <mustard5> !fr
[01:45] <ubotu> hmm... fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[01:45] <preparadores> buenas queria hacerle una pregunta
[01:45] <Phlipmode> hi
[01:45] <aeon17x> What you say?
[01:45] <mustard5> !es
[01:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:45] <Phlipmode> can anyone help me with some questions
[01:45] <Phlipmode> about ubuntu and set uo
[01:45] <mustard5> I hope I got that right :D
[01:46] <preparadores> es q descargue un programa con amule
[01:46] <aeon17x> Phlipmode: go ahead, shoot.
[01:46] <Hackphil> how can I modify my roort password?
[01:46] <Hackphil> I forgot it !
[01:46] <Phlipmode> i want to set up my server over the weekend from windows to linux
[01:46] <Phlipmode> and iam new with this :)
[01:46] <onkarshinde> Hackphil: 'sudo passwd root' should help
[01:46] <Phlipmode> ive worked with linux so not really a great problem
[01:46] <onkarshinde> Phlipmode: Question please
[01:47] <Hackphil> onkarshinde : I'm a real newbie
[01:47] <Phlipmode> do u think ubuntu is good linux distribution for server with www ftp mysql php and some games and samba
[01:47] <Mmike> has anyone tried installing lincvs on ubuntu 5.10? There seems to be some dependency problems.
[01:47] <moyogo> Hackphil: there's is no root by default on ubuntu
[01:47] <kbrooks> Phlipmode: ubuntu server. try it
[01:47] <Mmike> philipmode: why would you have games on a server?
[01:48] <Phlipmode> no dedicated server for games :=)
[01:48] <Phlipmode> not running :))
[01:48] <Mmike> i reckon that pure debian is much more stable/mature/reliable for server
[01:48] <Phlipmode> hehe
[01:48] <mustard5> interesting though onkarshinde
[01:48] <Phlipmode> on ubuntu ? is it a extra iso ?
[01:48] <mustard5> *thought
[01:49] <Phlipmode> debian is free too, yeah ?
[01:49] <Tank_> has anyone had any trouble playing streaming audio? whenever i try to play a radio station i have trouble buffering where it only plays a second or two then buffers
[01:49] <Phlipmode> mhh no i will try ubuntu :)
[01:49] <aeon17x> Phlipmode: yeah
[01:49] <onkarshinde> mustard5: AFAIK Seveas is the most knowledgeable person about Ubuntu on tihs channel
[01:49] <aeon17x> Tank_: try increasing the length of the buffer.
[01:49] <Mmike> philipmode: yes, free as in free beer :) and free speech, of course
[01:50] <Mmike> much more mature for a server, id' say
[01:50] <bimberi> !server
[01:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[01:50] <Mmike> ubuntu is perfect for desktop
[01:50] <mustard5> onkarshinde, beats me hands down thats for sure :D
[01:50] <Phlipmode> so i can get a good support here over the weekend :) because i think i will get much trouble :))
[01:50] <Mmike> so, noone had troubles with lincvs?
[01:50] <Tank_> aeon17x, ok let me give that a shot
[01:50] <Mon> can anyone print images here? From the gimp i get 100+ empty pages and EOG does some real weird scaling which i can't change
[01:50] <Phlipmode> many
[01:50] <Phlipmode> wtf :)
[01:50] <Phlipmode> great
[01:50] <Fufachew> ubotu: tell me about compiling kernel
[01:51] <cef> how do I tell udev to create cd symlinks? (cos it's not since I upgraded to breezy)
[01:51] <mustard5> Mon sounds like a printer configuration problem...but I'm no expert
[01:51] <aeon17x> Mon: maybe you didn't set which printer you'll use in CUPS?
[01:51] <Mon> aeon17x: ehr something does come out, it is the right printer i think
[01:51] <Phlipmode> is there a extra ubuntu server iso ?
[01:51] <Mon> mustard5: i've never ever printed an image the way i wanted it in any distro. no idea why or how
[01:52] <stitch_x2> Phlipmode, yes ubuntu-server
[01:52] <mustard5> Phlipmode, the normal iso has a server install option
[01:52] <Phlipmode> ah ok
[01:52] <Phlipmode> :)
[01:52] <Phlipmode> is it with gui ?
[01:52] <Tank_> aeon17x, im not sure where to do that in xmms, however it seems odd that i would have to do that, i had no trouble with other distros, and im on a 10mb connection right now :)
[01:52] <onkarshinde> Phlipmode: I don't think so
[01:52] <mustard5> Phlipmode, text menu choices I would call it
[01:52] <chris86wm> hey guys, the scrolling function on my laptop's touchpad doesnt work. does that mean that its not supported or do i need to enable something?
[01:53] <bimberi> Phlipmode: both. You can do a server install with the "normal" iso, and there is a new server iso - which doesn't come with a Desktop environment
[01:53] <onkarshinde> Phlipmode: type server at installation prompt
[01:53] <Phlipmode> i think i will need a desktop, im a totally windowskid :)
[01:53] <aeon17x> Tank_: I have nooo idea either what's wrong there either. =/
[01:53] <mustard5> Phlipmode, ah I see what you are saying...
[01:53] <mustard5> I misunderstood
[01:54] <Phlipmode> np
[01:54] <mustard5> Phlipmode, you could install a gui I suppose....but I have no experience with it
[01:54] <mustard5> xfce maybe?
[01:54] <Phlipmode> yeah i i tried often linux
[01:54] <kbrooks> Phlipmode: well you could install xubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <Phlipmode> but never needed it
[01:54] <kbrooks> in the server  installation
[01:54] <onkarshinde> chris86wm: It means it is not supported. Still you can check if there is any hack for your laptop at http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[01:54] <Phlipmode> mh
[01:55] <aeon17x> XUbuntu rocks.
[01:55] <kuLitZ_gal> who's familiar with iptraf?
[01:55] <bauke> kuLitZ_gal: what would you like to know
[01:55] <Phlipmode> i will go now to work, and come back in 3-4 hours and then i will make a live server setup :)
[01:55] <mustard5> Phlipmode, ok..good luck :D
[01:55] <Phlipmode> hehe :)
[01:55] <Phlipmode> see ya later
[01:55] <mustard5> cya
[01:55] <Phlipmode> peace
[01:58] <Hackphil> en fait, y a p de root parvb dfaut sur Ubuntu
[01:58] <aftertaf> Hackphil:  #ubuntu-fr    sinon, c'est voulu  lis ce lien (anglais)
[01:59] <aftertaf> !tell Hackphil about root
[02:00] <Sudo> !printer
[02:00] <ubotu> printer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[02:00] <aeon17x> !earth
[02:00] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, aeon17x
[02:01] <aeon17x> sorry, ubotu, I was trying to summon Captain Planet >_>
[02:01] <Loki_VA> hi people
[02:02] <aeon17x> y helo thar, Loki
[02:02] <Loki_VA> Has any got Hydrogen working? (Drum Machine software) it is in the apt repo but i cant get sound output.. alsa to be precise
[02:02] <surfk> hi! is there some GUI where I can add a dir to the PATH?
[02:02] <Loki_VA> sounds works fine everywhere else
[02:03] <Mmike> loki_va: are you using esd by default? maybe hydrogen wants to write to /dev/dsp, wich it can't if you have esd running. try "killall esd" (not as root) prior to running hydrogen
[02:03] <bauke> !webmin
[02:03] <Sudo> !printer
[02:03] <ubotu> I heard printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[02:03] <Loki_VA> Mmike, hmm good point.. thanx ill try it.
[02:04] <Sudo> !aps
[02:04] <ubotu> Sudo: I haven't a clue
[02:04] <Sudo> !applications
[02:04] <ubotu> Sudo: Are you on ritalin?
[02:04] <aeon17x> !openoffice
[02:04] <ubotu> aeon17x: I give up, what is it?
[02:05] <Sudo> aeho: openoffice.org
[02:05] <cef> anyone here good with udev? how do I set up cdrom symlinks?
[02:05] <Seveas> don't play with the bot please...
[02:05] <aeon17x> I must say that our resident bot is somewhat clueless...
[02:05] <Loki_VA> Mmike, you ripper! sweet
[02:05] <Sudo> Seveas: who owns ubotu ?
[02:05] <Sudo> !ubotu
[02:05] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:05] <onkarshinde> Has anyone tried compiling Project Looking Glass on Ubuntu?
[02:05] <Seveas> Sudo, why do you need to know?
[02:05] <Sudo> Seveas: because i want too know
[02:05] <Mmike> loki_va: wokrs now? is it any good? :) i'm crying for rebrht alternative for linux, haven't found any yet :)
[02:06] <aeon17x> Do we have a kubotu?
[02:06] <Seveas> it's cafuego
[02:06] <aeon17x> Or Xubotu?
[02:06] <Sudo> Sepheebear: whats that
[02:06] <aeon17x> Or Enlightended Ubo- * gets shot*
[02:06] <Sudo> Seveas: whats that
[02:06] <Seveas> what's what?
[02:06] <Sudo> Seveas: is it downloadable?
[02:06] <Seveas> apt-get install blootbot :)
[02:07] <Sudo> Seveas: that will get ubotu
[02:07] <Seveas> that will give you blootbot, ubotu is a blootbot
[02:07] <Sudo> kewl
[02:07] <Sudo> Seveas: ok
[02:08] <aeon17x> We can actually make our own bot? Kewl.
[02:08] <Seveas> aeon17x, as long as you don't put it in here....
[02:08] <Seveas> btw: supybot is a much nicer framework...
[02:08] <dabaR> haha
[02:08] <Sudo> Seveas: sudo apt-get install supybot ?
[02:08] <Seveas> yes
[02:09] <Sudo> kk
[02:09] <aeon17x> I won't, I'll just use it to bug my fellows at the local LUG. :)
[02:09] <Sudo> Seveas: how did you get +o here?
[02:09] <dabaR> he uses chanserv
[02:09] <Loki_VA> Mmike, its not bad.. good for linux.. not quite rebirth but
[02:09] <Sudo> no
[02:09] <Sudo> i mean who added him
[02:09] <Loki_VA> worth a look
[02:09] <aeon17x> Sudo: He added himself.
[02:09] <Seveas> Sudo, that's the responsibility of the community council
[02:10] <Sudo> Seveas: ok.
[02:10] <Seveas> and no, we are not looking for new operators
[02:10] <Sudo> so you asked?
[02:10] <GNULinuxer> Sudo: Seveas is the God here
[02:10] <Sudo> ye
[02:10] <Sudo> u wish
[02:10] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, no that's sabdfl
[02:10] <Seveas> I'm merely a human
[02:10] <dabaR> he is very active in the community, or some thing like that and so they needed someone to operate the channel, and he volunteered.
[02:10] <Sudo> God is God
[02:10] <GNULinuxer> Seveas: heh
[02:10] <Sudo> Seveas: is Seveas
[02:10] <mustard5> nooo! its not true!
[02:11] <reiki> hmmm... traceroute still not working even after I installed the package. Can my cable internet provider be blocking something?
[02:11] <mustard5> he's a god :)
[02:11] <Seveas> Can we please stop this off-topic talk...
[02:11] <Sudo> God is God
[02:11] <Sudo> Seveas: is Seveas
[02:11] <Sudo> no
[02:11] <Sudo> lol
[02:11] <cef> anyone here know much about with udev? how do I set up cdrom symlinks?
[02:12] <aeon17x> reiki: Possibly. After all, that's the purpose of traceroute - to see if it gets halted at some point.
[02:12] <Seveas> cef, they should be setup automagically so I never really looked at it, lemme have a look
[02:12] <cef> Seveas: I used to have them on hoary.. they're gone now in breezy
[02:13] <Seveas> cef, try sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart
[02:13] <Seveas> do they appear?
[02:13] <cef> Seveas: nup
[02:13] <dabaR> reiki: well, does it time out now rather than just saying no such command?
[02:13] <dabaR> It is more likely your router than the ISP, imo.
[02:13] <Seveas> cef, do you have /etc/udev/cd-aliases.rules ?
[02:14] <reiki> dabaR: yes, traceroute starts but just times out every hop...doesn't even show hops actually... just ***
[02:14] <cef> Seveas: is there a symlink in /etc/udev/rules.d/ that mentions "cd" in it's name?
[02:14] <dabaR> reiki: you have a router, it is blocking it, right?
[02:14] <cef> Seveas: yes there is.. but no symlink in /etc/udev/rules.d/ to it
[02:14] <dabaR> cya
[02:15] <reiki> dabaR: yes I suspect it's actually not getting through my router. Not sure what I need to open... searching the web now for what ports, UDP or TCP, etc
[02:15] <Seveas> hmm, right, neither in here
[02:15] <Seveas> (sorry, my udev knowledge is very limited)
[02:15] <Seveas> would an ls -R /etc/udev help you?
[02:15] <cef> Seveas: do you have a /dev/dvd or /dev/cdrw or anything like that?
[02:16] <Seveas> yes
[02:16] <cef> Seveas: possibly.. on paste.ubuntulinux.pl of course
[02:16] <Seveas> well actually: NO
[02:16] <Seveas> never noticed it, but they're gone
[02:16] <cef> aha!
[02:17] <cef> ok.. cool.. then that's the way it's being done now
[02:17] <Seveas> weird, but things still worked here a few days ago
[02:17] <Seveas> lemme check
[02:17] <aeon17x> Someone stole your drives, Seveas.
[02:17] <cef> I just edited /etc/default/cdrecord to point to the right place
[02:17] <Seveas> aeho, givi it back :)
[02:17] <cef> now to just remove any other references
[02:17] <Seveas> aeon17x*
[02:18] <Jowi> I think there is a script to set up the cdrom symlinks in /etc/udev/scripts
[02:18] <mustard5> do you need gstreamer0.8-mad to play mp3's in totem-xine?
[02:18] <Seveas> ah wait
[02:18] <Seveas> i have /media/cdrom*
[02:18] <Seveas> and /dev/hd*
[02:18] <onur> Another question,  i am having a lot of  "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://tr.archive.ubuntu..." error messages while using adept or apt-get why ?
[02:19] <Seveas> onur, because you need to run apt-get update
[02:19] <cef> Seveas: yeah I have /media/cdrom* stuff as well..
[02:20] <onur> Seveas: apt-get update gives the folowing error
[02:20] <onur> Seveas:  "Failed to fetch http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists"
[02:21] <cef> onur: either tr.archive.ubuntu.com is down, or it's in the middle of updating
[02:21] <go_play> hello!!! can anyone help me here....im new in ubuntu..and i would like some opinions and a bit of a help
[02:21] <onur> well
[02:21] <Seveas> cef, a symlink to /etc/udev/simple-cd-aliases.rules worked
[02:21] <cef> Seveas: cool.. yay *grin*
[02:21] <Seveas> go_play, asking specific questions would help ;)
[02:21] <learn25> Hi guys!
[02:21] <corincole> hi learn25
[02:22] <mwe> go_play: yeah go ahead and ask. people will answer if they have the time
[02:22] <learn25> How to make mplayer my default application to open mpeg, wmv files under 5.10 ubuntu?
[02:22] <onkarshinde> onur: paste your sources.list in pastebin and give us the link.
[02:22] <Seveas> learn25, rightclick on a file, go to properties, then 3rd tab...
[02:22] <learn25> ok
[02:23] <onur> ok
[02:23] <learn25> Thanks guys!
[02:24] <learn25> Ubuntu rocks! ;-)
[02:24] <aeon17x> learn25: Indeed!
[02:24] <go_play> what about apache...where i can find some info about installing apache?
[02:25] <onkarshinde> go_play: install from Synaptic
[02:25] <go_play> i just download the latest distro of ubuntu
[02:25] <johndilley> help ignore
[02:25] <johndilley> oops
[02:26] <mustard5> go_play, you used synaptic before?
[02:26] <learn25> maybe it would be better if all of this pulgins, java, flash, acroabt 7, win32 codecs can be installed with ease so that even a newbie can enjoy ubuntu out of the box. :))
[02:26] <Seveas> !lamp
[02:26] <ubotu> I guess lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:26] <onur> onkarshinde: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3403
[02:26] <Seveas> go_play, read that page for more info
[02:26] <go_play> nop
[02:26] <go_play> never used synaptics
[02:26] <cef> Seveas: I tried simple-cd-aliases.rules, but it only added /dev/cdrom, so I tried cd-aliases.rules and edited cdsymlinks.conf - now I get cdrom, cdrw, dvdrom and dvdrw nodes.. yay!
[02:26] <go_play> ok
[02:27] <onkarshinde> !breezy
[02:27] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:28] <chedabob> could anybody help me with a wired network problem? im trying to get my wireless adaptor working which ive got a guide for but i need to get some files for it. Im using a realtek NIC but it wont recognise it. any ideas?
[02:29] <go_play> thanks guys
[02:29] <mustard5> go_play, your welcome
[02:30] <johnm> chedabob: they normally use the 8139too driver in the linux kernel.
[02:30] <onkarshinde> onur: Shouldn't you be using kubuntu repositories? I don;t think they are same as ubuntu repositories.
[02:31] <onur> onkarshinde: i am using kubuntu
[02:31] <onur> this is the default
[02:32] <elad`> Synatpic wanrs me that I am about to download and installed package that can't be authenticated. How come?
[02:32] <chedabob> any ideas why my realtek network card isnts recognised
[02:32] <elad`> Among those packages are perl and aspell, which I'm pretty sure are standard Ubuntu packages.
[02:33] <theine> onkarshinde, they are the same...
[02:33] <onkarshinde> onur: I don't see any problem with your sources.list
[02:33] <onkarshinde> onur: There is one problem
[02:33] <onur> but it crashes more over i can't run adept
[02:34] <onur> it says it can only run in read only mode
[02:34] <noorman> Trying to install Matlab in Breezy. When running install I get: install: Permission denied
[02:34] <noorman> . What?
[02:34] <onkarshinde> onur: There is no breezy-backports yet.
[02:34] <onur> but that should not cause this much errors
[02:34] <Jowi> chedabob: try "modprobe 8139too"
[02:34] <ccooke> noorman: you probably need to use sudo to get root access.
[02:35] <selinium> Hi Seveas, I am about to do a clean install of Breezy, I keep my /home on a seperate HD. I was wondering about your multimedia meta package, What does it install? :)
[02:35] <theine> noorman, how do you `run install'? From the terminal?
[02:35] <onkarshinde> onur: Try to comment it first. If there is any error still then tell me. What command are you using for update?
[02:35] <noorman> tried that yes. sudo gives same response
[02:35] <Seveas> selinium, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/seveas-meta/
[02:35] <noorman> I ran thru terminal yes
[02:35] <theine> noorman, using sudo would have been my suggestion...
[02:35] <noorman> ./install
[02:35] <Seveas> ah crud, nvm
[02:36] <selinium> Seveas, Chers, but what does it install? :)
[02:36] <ccooke> noorman: sudo ./install ?
[02:36] <chedabob> jowi:nothing
[02:36] <Seveas> just add the repo, apt-get update and do apt-cache depends ubuntu-multimedia-gnome :)
[02:36] <Jowi> chedabob: nothing is good. no errors = success
[02:36] <noorman> well, no. But I have tried every way poosible, and get the same :(
[02:37] <selinium> Seveas: CHeers!
[02:37] <noorman> What do you suggest I type then?
[02:37] <chedabob> jowi: i mean its done nothing. it still doesnt work
[02:37] <Jowi> chedabob: did you get an error?
[02:37] <theine> noorman, sudo ./install
[02:37] <chedabob> no
[02:37] <ccooke> noorman: I was asking if you'd tried 'sudo ./install'
[02:37] <Jowi> chedabob: so the driver "8139too" is now loaded for your nic
[02:37] <Amaranth> nalioth_zZz: ooh, it's in omaha
[02:37] <chedabob> jowi: i think so
[02:37] <noorman> ccooke, think so. Cant try again
[02:37] <chedabob> didnt get any errors
[02:37] <Amaranth> nalioth_zZz: that's about 100mi away from here
[02:37] <ccooke> noorman: why not?
[02:38] <ccooke> noorman: ahhh!
[02:38] <noorman> can sorry typo :(
[02:38] <ccooke> noorman: wait - the script is probably not executable
[02:38] <Jowi> chedabob: now you need to configure it. sudo network-admin
[02:38] <noorman> ccooke, sudo ./install --> perm. denied again
[02:38] <ccooke> noorman: chmod +x ./install ; sudo ./install
[02:39] <theine> noorman, ah, i know...
[02:39] <theine> noorman, chmod +x ./install
[02:39] <chedabob> jowi: got an error to do with ubuntu lookup
[02:39] <theine> noorman, and then...
[02:39] <theine> noorman, sudo ./install
[02:39] <noorman> well, the stuff is on a cd so...
[02:39] <theine> noorman, oh...
[02:39] <noorman> heh :)
[02:39] <ccooke> noorman: ./install is on a cd? okay. ls -l ./install
[02:40] <theine> noorman, you might need to copy it over then
[02:40] <noorman> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root root 39557 2005-08-12 10:23 ./install
[02:40] <ccooke> noorman: okay.
[02:40] <ccooke> noorman: file ./install
[02:40] <theine> noorman, that looks fine
[02:40] <ccooke> noorman: it's probably a shell script.
[02:40] <noorman> there is a x missing right?
[02:40] <noorman> or?
[02:40] <theine> noorman, no
[02:40] <noorman> k
[02:40] <Jowi> chedabob: 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' work?
[02:41] <ccooke> noorman: does file say something like 'Bourne shell script text executable' ?
[02:41] <selinium> Seveas: that repo link is dead. :)
[02:41] <ccooke> noorman: if so, 'sudo bash ./install'
[02:42] <YukiIkyuta> .
[02:42] <noorman> in file browser (gnome) it says 'shell script'
[02:42] <onur> onkarshinde: i would paste it if i could run konqueor
[02:42] <onkarshinde> how good is the native implementation of java for swing, i mean gcj and classpath?
[02:42] <chedabob> jowi: "unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()"
[02:42] <onur> i am getting too much unknown host errors
[02:42] <theine> noorman, `file' is a command
[02:43] <ccooke> noorman: right. try the command I suggested.
[02:43] <aftertaf> chedabob:  you change host name?
[02:43] <chedabob> no
[02:43] <chedabob> left it default
[02:43] <noorman> ccooke, aha!  /tmp/12910tmwinstall/install: line 697: /lib/libc.so.6: Permission denied
[02:43] <noorman>  Now it started install :D
[02:43] <noorman> big step there :)
[02:43] <ccooke> noorman: okay. buggy installer...
[02:43] <aftertaf> chedabob:  check /etc/hosts.... should have 127.0.0.1 with your pc hostname
[02:43] <c4269> ???
[02:43] <noorman> right! Think ive read about that one on the web
[02:43] <onur> onkarshinde: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3404
[02:44] <elad`> Why am I being told I'm about to installed unauthenticated packages, when everything I'm installing is from ubuntu.com?
[02:44] <chedabob> aftertaf: hostname is ubuntu
[02:44] <noorman> ccooke, theine thanks !!
[02:44] <ccooke> noorman: good, because there's not a lot we can do without it visible :-)
[02:44] <theine> noorman, you're welcome
[02:44] <Discipulus> I recently got DSL
[02:44] <Discipulus> and "I'm lovin' it"
[02:44] <chedabob> hehe
[02:44] <onur> onkarshinde: as far as i know GCJ supports most of the api but it sucks at swing
[02:45] <elad`> Guys?
[02:45] <mustard5> elad`, your gpg keys probably failed to download
[02:45] <mustard5> if your sources.list is standard I would ignore it
[02:45] <chedabob> aftertaf: any ideas?
[02:45] <dooglus> elad`: which package isn't authenticated?
[02:46] <elad`> mustard5: What does that mean, and what should I do?
[02:46] <onkarshinde> onur: That's why I asked about classpath. Anyways, it seems that your DNS is not able to resolve name security.ubuntu.com everything else is fine.
[02:46] <elad`> dooglus: A bunch of them, maybe all.
[02:46] <Jowi> chedabob: sorry to leave you in the cold, but i've got an appointment. i'll be back in a few hours, if you're still stuck i see what i can help you with then.
[02:46] <chedabob> kk
[02:46] <chedabob> thanks
[02:46] <dooglus> elad`: I've never seen that warning
[02:46] <dooglus> elad`: and I've installed a lot of packages.  I *wouldn't* ignore the warning if I was you
[02:46] <mustard5> elad`, the packages are authenticated by gpg keys (encrypted keys) to verify them...synaptic/apt-get has found a mismatch and is reporting it
[02:47] <emanuelez> hi...i installed skype on breezy but keeps ginving me some sound device problem.... any hint?
[02:48] <Amaranth> whee
[02:49] <dooglus> elad`: what do you see from "sudo apt-key list"?
[02:49] <mustard5> what was that?
[02:49] <dooglus> elad`: use the pastebin, here:
[02:49] <dooglus> !paste
[02:49] <mustard5> ubotu ?
[02:49] <aftertaf> net wplit #2 of the day
[02:49] <mustard5> k
[02:49] <aftertaf> level3 gone bust again.
[02:49] <dooglus> uh - here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[02:49] <aftertaf> loooool
[02:49] <aftertaf> loool Amaranth
[02:49] <mustard5> O_o
[02:49] <onkarshinde> Does eclipse in breezy is faster than normal eclipse?
[02:49] <mustard5> I feel like I have been time-warped
[02:49] <GURT> theres major backbone crap going on today
[02:49] <kbrooks> ?
[02:49] <Amaranth> GURT: no, that was local to freenode
[02:49] <aftertaf> rehubbing
[02:49] <GURT> oh
[02:50] <elad`> http://pastebin.com/400820
[02:50] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:50] <ubotu> mustard5: Syntax error in line 1
[02:50] <GURT> but there is major backbone outages
[02:50] <chedabob> aftertaf: u got any ideas whats happening with my network?
[02:50] <dooglus> ubotu: that took you a while!
[02:50] <ubotu> dooglus: What?
[02:51] <aftertaf> chedabob:  i only know the hostname thing.....
[02:51] <chedabob> kk
[02:51] <elad`> Another problem - I don't want to install many of the things upgrade chooses for me, but I can't unmark them for some reason (akregator, for example, and xeyes).
[02:51] <aftertaf> ask again chedabob .....
[02:51] <LooP_BaCK> everytime i boot i have to manually start my eth0... why?
[02:51] <elad`> mustard5:  http://pastebin.com/400820
[02:51] <aftertaf> LooP_BaCK:  put auto in your conf file.
[02:52] <chedabob> does anybody know why my realtek network adaptor is not recognised?
[02:52] <aftertaf> LooP_BaCK:          map eth0
[02:52] <aftertaf>    <-- that in your interfaces file?
[02:52] <dooglus> elad`: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:52] <elad`> 5.04
[02:53] <dooglus> elad`: I have the same keys.
[02:53] <LooP_BaCK> aftertaf: map eth0?
[02:53] <chedabob> aftertaf: i went into network-tools and there was nothing there. if ubuntu is based off debian why doesnt it work with my NIC?
[02:53] <tirian> Is there a simple way to install MythTV on Breezy?
[02:53] <mustard5> tirian, synaptic
[02:53] <ccooke> tirian: yes. enable universe and multiverse, then sudo apt-get install mythtv
[02:54] <tirian> I did that, and I don't see it.
[02:54] <ccooke> tirian: I've been using mythtv on ubuntu since Hoary
[02:54] <aftertaf> LooP_BaCK:  PM
[02:54] <tirian> But I'll check again.
[02:54] <ccooke> tirian: it's in multiverse.
[02:54] <ccooke> you need to enable universe and multiverse first.
[02:54] <ccooke> !tell tirian about repositories
[02:54] <elad`> dooglus: So what's going on?
[02:54] <mustard5> I couldn't get mythtv to install properly yesterday...it was driving me crazy
[02:55] <dooglus> elad`: next, could you pastebin the output of "ls -la /var/lib/apt/lists/"?
[02:55] <ccooke> mustard5: what was the problem?
[02:55] <mustard5> authentication problems
[02:55] <ccooke> mustard5: with the database?
[02:55] <mustard5> yep
[02:55] <chedabob> would i have less problems if i used kubuntu?
[02:55] <ccooke> mustard5: ah, okay. easy to fix.
[02:55] <selinium> i am about to do a fresh install of breezy on my HD, i keep my /home on a different HD. Other than changing fstab to point to the /home drive what else will I need to do?
[02:56] <ccooke> mustard5: apt-get --purge everything-mythtv-and-mysql-if-you-can, apt-get install mythtv
[02:56] <mustard5> yeah, I was often doing that yesterday :D
[02:56] <ccooke> mustard5: I've known a couple of people had that problem.
[02:56] <mustard5> and removing the mythtv user
[02:56] <ccooke> yep.
[02:56] <aftertaf> selinium:  nothing. fstab for /home mount is ok....
[02:56] <ccooke> that's fixed it every time I've seen the problem
[02:56] <mustard5> but still no luck
[02:56] <emanuelez> hi...i installed skype on breezy but keeps ginving me some sound device problem.... any hint?
[02:56] <ccooke> very odd.
[02:56] <selinium> aftertaf, Cheers
[02:56] <chedabob> hmm...the possibilities of linux if only it would work on my pc
[02:57] <mustard5> mthtv user kept using a password that I didnt know, so I could run as mythtv user, when I changed mythtv user password to something then installation went wacky
[02:57] <aftertaf> chedabob:  does ifconfig show you anything?
[02:57] <ccooke> mustard5: okay, try setting the mythtv user password in mysql, then removing all configuration in ~mythtv ?
[02:57] <E0x> hello
[02:58] <chedabob> ifconfig shows nothing
[02:58] <mustard5> ccooke, I'll give it a go another time...mainly because mythtv and skype don't like each other and I have skype installed atm
[02:58] <bathini> Hello friends
[02:58] <chedabob> hello
[02:58] <aftertaf> chedabob:  sudo ifup lo ... ?
[02:58] <Whistler> hello everybody
[02:58] <Whistler> :)
[02:58] <ccooke> mustard5: hmm
[02:59] <bathini> I am having problems updating Ubuntu
[02:59] <mustard5> ccooke, the libqt3c-mt.deb conflicts with skypes libqt3cxxxx.deb
[02:59] <RaMIK> Hello
[02:59] <RaMIK> :)
[02:59] <mustard5> toss up between tv and chattting to my gal :D
[02:59] <chedabob> aftertaf: got that hostname error i got before
[02:59] <bathini> I want to update it to Breezy
[03:00] <aftertaf> chedabob:  and thats all?
[03:00] <aftertaf> chedabob:  if you type 'hostname' ?
[03:00] <RaMIK> where i can find installation tutorial? :)
[03:00] <kairu0> hello
[03:00] <RaMIK> hi
[03:00] <bathini> Is there anyone with the knowledge?
[03:00] <kairu0> RaMIK
[03:00] <elad`> dooglus: http://pastebin.com/400831
[03:00] <YukiIkyuta> !breezy
[03:00] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:01] <YukiIkyuta> bathini, see that page there.
[03:01] <RaMIK> kairu0, what?
[03:01] <chedabob> hostname is ubuntu
[03:01] <kairu0> RaMIK, hi
[03:01] <chedabob> shouldnt it be localhost?
[03:01] <RaMIK> :P
[03:01] <bathini> Thanks YukiIkyuta, I will give it a shot
[03:01] <YukiIkyuta> bathini, good luck!
[03:02] <RaMIK> so... where i can find installation manual?:P
[03:02] <aftertaf> chedabob:  nope..... localhost refers to the 127.0.0.1... you should have in your /etc/hosts file   127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost  ubuntu
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> !installation
[03:02] <ubotu> YukiIkyuta: Are you on ritalin?
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> Hm.
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> !tutoira
[03:02] <ubotu> YukiIkyuta: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> !tutorial
[03:02] <ubotu> YukiIkyuta: I give up, what is it?
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> Okay, or not.
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> !help
[03:03] <mustard5> YukiIkyuta, I wouldnt do that
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> Aah, sorry.
[03:03] <mustard5> the ops will strangle you
[03:03] <chedabob> all i got in /etc/hosts is "127.0.0.1 localhost"
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> Hah.
[03:03] <elad`> dooglus: ?
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> I suppose I'd strangle me too. -_-;
[03:03] <iiiears> Hello! - CD drive is busy and locked. "sudo umount -f /cdrom0" isn't working.   What is the next thing to try.  (If you are thinking hammer. so was i but that feeling passed. - grin)
[03:03] <aftertaf> chedabob:  ok. edit it and add ubuntu to that line.....
[03:04] <aftertaf> iiiears:  what process locked it?
[03:04] <chillywilly> anyone have any problems with libapache2-mod-fastcgi not dynamically spawning processes?
[03:04] <YukiIkyuta> RaMIK, try here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[03:04] <iiiears> ps  shows nothing - i think Cedega was a little forgetful when it exited and left the cd locked.
[03:05] <chedabob> permissions denied
[03:05] <MoonX> hello everyone, I am testing Ubuntu 5.0.4 on a new system that based on Asus PL52D motherboard and I am facing some challenges with enabling sound and built-in Gigabit LAN Ethernet.
[03:05] <dooglus> elad`: sorry.
[03:05] <iiiears> Not much to do but reboot?
[03:05] <MoonX> can someone guide me on how do I run the soundconfig utility?
[03:06] <dooglus> elad`: I didn't notice your pastebin until now.
[03:06] <iiiears> ubotu how are you feeling this morning?
[03:06] <ubotu> iiiears: what are you talking about?
[03:06] <iiiears> !sound
[03:06] <ubotu> it has been said that sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[03:06] <elad`> No biggie.
[03:06] <chedabob> any ideas whats up with my network card? this is really annoying me
[03:07] <iiiears> wifi?
[03:07] <dooglus> elad`: sorry to keep bugging you - but how about output from "md5sum /var/lib/apt/lists/*"?
[03:07] <MoonX> ubotu: thank u
[03:07] <ubotu> de nada, MoonX
[03:07] <chedabob> no wired
[03:07] <MoonX> i will look that up now
[03:07] <chedabob> realtek
[03:07] <dooglus> elad`: oh - no need.  i see the problem.
[03:07] <go_play> guys any help with installinh ubuntu....downlaod it and burn it but still nothing.....
[03:07] <elad`> dooglus: http://pastebin.com/400833
[03:07] <chedabob> go_play you burn it as an iso?
[03:07] <dooglus> elad`: you are missing archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_Release.gpg and archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_Release.gpg
[03:08] <apokryphos> !tell go_play about install
[03:08] <elad`> What?
[03:08] <deFrysk> go_play, did you burn the iso or " copy" the iso ?
[03:08] <dooglus> elad`: "sudo apt-get update" again shouldfix it
[03:08] <iiiears> Thanks Guys! :)
[03:08] <MoonX> ubotu: this is the output of aplay -l >> aplay: device_list:200: no soundcards found...
[03:08] <ubotu> MoonX: what are you talking about?
[03:08] <elad`> dooglus: I have updated more than once, and it wasn't fixed.
[03:09] <deFrysk> MoonX, do you have an unused onboard soundcard ?
[03:09] <sazwerx> how to add plugins to rythmbox? where can i get them?
[03:09] <deFrysk> !tell sazwerx about restriced formats
[03:09] <MoonX> ubotu:  nope, I don't have :(
[03:09] <ubotu> MoonX: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:10] <dooglus> elad`: what if you "sudo rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu*" and then update?
[03:10] <elad`> dooglus: http://pastebin.com/400838 - This is my sources.list.
[03:10] <MoonX> ubotu: hheheheh nope
[03:10] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, MoonX
[03:10] <philipp> hello
[03:10] <elad`> dooglus: What would that do?
[03:10] <deFrysk> MoonX, ubotu is a bot , no need to talk to him
[03:10] <MoonX> huh???
[03:10] <MoonX> hahahaha I am talking to a bot? really?
[03:10] <kbrooks> MoonX: yeah
[03:11] <philipp> i have problem to get a ip adress after installation 5.10
[03:11] <kbrooks> MoonX: it randomly picks from sentences
[03:11] <MoonX> oh my god! i feel so dumb
[03:11] <MoonX> LOL
[03:11] <dooglus> elad`: /var/apt/lib/lists is where the files get saved when you "apt-get update".  currently you'remissing the .gpg files that sign the whole repository
[03:11] <deFrysk> MoonX, ubotu is a bot used for providing quick answers
[03:12] <dooglus> elad`: the 'rm' will remove all the files that apt-get update gets, so it's like a clean start.  apt-get update should then get everything, including the .gpg files again.
[03:12] <deFrysk> !tell sazwerx about restricted formats
[03:12] <rob^^^> heya all. Easy question here. How do I recompile a debian package from experimental on ubuntu?
[03:12] <MoonX> deFrysk: thank u for telling me
[03:12] <rob^^^> I forced some deps and it all works fine so it shouldn't bee too much of an issue
[03:12] <elad`> ah, I should have kept the "partial" in place?
[03:12] <deFrysk> rob^^^, first apt-get build dep package to get the debs
[03:12] <fdasa> hello everyone, i just installed an edubuntu. everytime i login to ubuntu, i always get a "save screen" prompt. it's like it captures the desktop and save it on a png file. is this a bug?
[03:12] <sazwerx> deFrysk, thanks
[03:13] <dooglus> elad`: I do
[03:13] <deFrysk> rob^^^, then apt-get source -b package
[03:13] <dooglus> elad`: and 'lock'?
[03:13] <schizoid> rob^^^: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html#s-sourcepkgs
[03:13] <deFrysk> rob^^^, you need the source debs of the repo enabled
[03:14] <deFrysk> rob^^^, make sure not to install from experimental repos directly
[03:14] <philipp> hello everyone, i have just installed ubuntu 5.10. but i have problem to get a ip adress. can anybody help me?
[03:14] <rob^^^> deFrysk: that's what I was worrieda bout
[03:14] <rob^^^> Rhythmbox .91 played very nice last night!
[03:14] <pybe> philipp: is it set to get an address via dhcp?
[03:14] <deFrysk> rob^^^, only open the src-deb of experimental, nothing else
[03:14] <philipp> yes via dhcp
[03:14] <rob^^^> de: well that makes sense
[03:15] <rob^^^> I should have thought of that myself
[03:15] <pybe> philipp: do you have a dhcp server?
[03:15] <toink> hello everyone, i just installed an edubuntu. everytime i login to ubuntu, i always get a "save screen" prompt. it's like it captures the desktop and save it on a png file. is this a bug?
[03:15] <philipp> yes i have a dhcp server. and it worked with suse.
[03:15] <bauke> hi all, is there an app which replaces activesync (for my ipaq2210), not being synce-KDE :)
[03:15] <pybe> philipp: how did you setup the networking
[03:16] <deFrysk> rob^^^, and if deb building from source does not work the deps needed might just not be there (yet) and its better just to be patient
[03:16] <chedabob> slightly off topic but can someone suggest a linux distro designed for someone totally new to linux?
[03:16] <rob^^^> deFrysk: the only think that was changed was the -ubuntu branding
[03:16] <pybe> chedabob: ubuntu
[03:16] <chedabob> pybe: cant get anything to work with ubuntu
[03:16] <philipp> during installation. first i choosed dhcp. then it did not worked. so i provided my last ip with dns
[03:16] <pybe> chedabob: such as
[03:17] <chedabob> wired network
[03:17] <philipp> but no success
[03:17] <chedabob> pybe: would it work if i reinstalled ubuntu with my network plugged in?
[03:17] <pybe> chedabob: whats the setup
[03:17] <chedabob> my pc spec?
[03:17] <pybe> philipp: did it work with the static settings?
[03:17] <pybe> chedabob: the network setup
[03:17] <philipp> pybe: no.
[03:18] <deFrysk> chedabob, might be much better to install ubuntu with networkconnection yes
[03:18] <chedabob> pybe: its not even set up. cant get it to detect my network card
[03:18] <rob^^^> DeFrysk: i guess to be more proper about it though I should try to take the current ubuntu package and apply teh current patch set to upstream's source?
[03:18] <pybe> chedabob: in a console do lspci | grep -i ethernet
[03:19] <toink> can anyone help me? i can't seem to run my ubuntu very well. when ever i'm in ubuntu environment, a window always pops up capturing the desktop into image
[03:19] <deFrysk> rob^^^, I told you what I know and my advise is just to stick to ubuntu packages if possible
[03:19] <rob^^^> deFrysk: yeah, I know it's a bad idea ;)
[03:19] <rob^^^> but DAAP is so tempting :)
[03:19] <pybe> chedabob: anything there
[03:20] <ktogias> toink, Is the PrintScreen button on your keyboard pressed???
[03:20] <lorenzod> toink, seems like your print screen key is stuck..
[03:20] <Sonderblade> how do you do to mount a cifs share?
[03:20] <deFrysk> rob^^^, in #ubuntu-motu are developers who you can perhaps ask about this
[03:20] <rob^^^> thanks
[03:20] <pybe> philipp: paste your /etc/network/interfaces in a /msg to me
[03:20] <rob^^^> It was very nice to have rhythmbox up, close the ibook lid, watch MyLaptop dissapear from the playlist. Open the lid, watch it come back
[03:21] <deFrysk> rob^^^, ubuntu is very kind to laptops
[03:21] <toink> i don't think so, probably the keyboard isn't very well detected.
[03:21] <toink> am using a laptop u see...
[03:21] <rob^^^> deFrysk: doesn't have anything to do with the laptop
[03:21] <rob^^^> avahi magic
[03:21] <chedabob> pybe: think its working because i didnt get an error with dhcp this time.
[03:21] <deFrysk> hehe
[03:21] <pybe> chedabob: so your on the network?
[03:22] <chedabob> im installing
[03:22] <pybe> chedabob: ahh
[03:22] <chedabob> pybe: thanks for the help
[03:22] <pybe> philipp: you about?
[03:22] <pybe> chedabob: np
[03:22] <dconlon> Anyone know anything about the disappearance of libXcursor.la from the libxcursor package in Breezy?
[03:23] <philipp> bybe: i pasted it.
[03:23] <chedabob> would ubuntu run on a 233mhz laptop?
[03:23] <tidalwav1> Hi again, people, I'm the moron that was complaining about an NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 not working
[03:23] <tidalwav1> I need to know how to install an X server with externally loadable modules.
[03:23] <tidalwav1> Anyone have any idea?
[03:23] <chedabob> anybody?
[03:24] <pybe> chedabob: how much ram?
[03:24] <tidalwav1> chedbob, how much ram does your laptop have
[03:24] <pybe> heh
[03:24] <tidalwav1> rofl, jynx
[03:24] <tidalwav1> no one knows about x servers with externally loadable modules? :(
[03:25] <pybe> philipp: didn't get it who did you mesage?
[03:25] <chedabob> erm...4mb
[03:25] <chedabob> :P
[03:25] <pybe> chedabob: nope
[03:25] <tidalwav1> cheda: no way in hell.
[03:25] <Java_the_Hutt> Hello i have some connection problems with Konqueror, can anyone help ?
[03:25] <Java_the_Hutt> Hello i have some connection problems with Konqueror, can anyone help ?
[03:25] <chedabob> hehe
[03:25] <tidalwav1> java, let's hear it
[03:25] <tidalwav1> oh
[03:25] <pinucset> does firefox works at you Java?
[03:25] <tidalwav1> nvm
[03:25] <tidalwav1> connection problems
[03:25] <tidalwav1> I thoght you said just problems
[03:25] <highvoltage> java? ew!
[03:25] <pybe> chedabob: would be tricky to get anything to load on it
[03:26] <philipp> i pasted it in our private chat
[03:26] <tidalwav1> HV: how can you insult java that way
[03:26] <pybe> philipp: didnt come through
[03:26] <tidalwav1> it's a tasty coffee and a tastier programming language
[03:26] <pybe> philipp: no text from you at all in the /msg
[03:26] <chedabob> pybe: i heard a guy got netbsd running on a toaster so it mustnt be impossible to put linux on my laptop
[03:26] <philipp> moment
[03:26] <YukiIkyuta> tidalwav1, tastier programming language? That's horrible.
[03:26] <pinucset> how do I remove gnome from my kubuntu?
[03:26] <pybe> chedabob: thats why i said tricky
[03:27] <chedabob> hehe
[03:27] <tidalwav1> Yuki, thank you. :D (I just got finished with a 450 line java program.)
[03:27] <bauke> !synce
[03:27] <ubotu> bauke: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:27] <YukiIkyuta> XP
[03:27] <kbrooks> pinucset: apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <chimera321> what's the command to leave channel?
[03:27] <chedabob> hehe my mobile phone has more ram than my laptop
[03:27] <deFrysk>  /quit
[03:27] <tidalwav1> chimera: it's / quit
[03:27] <chimera321> thanks
[03:27] <pinucset> kbrooks it says that ubuntu-desktop isn't installed?
[03:27] <tidalwav1> yuki: http://jmediacat.sf.net if you're interested ;)
[03:27] <pybe>  /window close for me
[03:27] <bauke> !synce
[03:27] <ubotu> bauke: Wish i knew
[03:28] <pybe> philipp: join #pybe
[03:29] <tidalwav1> nobody knows about x servers, then? :(
[03:29] <SimonGray> I'm trying to install my Canon s750 printer in Breezy; How do I view what number USB port it's on?
[03:29] <pybe> SimonGray: try lsusb
[03:30] <SimonGray> thanks
[03:30] <SimonGray> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04a9:106d Canon, Inc. S750 Printer
[03:30] <SimonGray> Would that be port number 3 or 2?
[03:31] <thenuke> how do I forward https-port to ssh port on my PC
[03:31] <philipp> pybe: you got it?
[03:31] <Donvinzk> hi
[03:31] <tidalwav1> okay, I'll rephrase my question: do I need to compile x.org myself to have support for external X modules?
[03:31] <Donvinzk> anybody using mldonkey to access Kad Network ?
[03:34] <tidalwav1> well, thanks for all your help, guys >_<
[03:34] <ccfiel> hello ppl
[03:34] <tidalwav1> hi cc
[03:35] <SimonGray> great printer works now
[03:35] <SimonGray> ^_^
[03:36] <ccfiel> i have tried to add a module for my webcam. and i have sucessfully compile the source but the problem when i modprobe an error occure epcam: Unknown symbol remap_page_range? wat shal i do?
[03:36] <ccfiel> can somebody help me :(\
[03:37] <gmhafiz_> Hello, I've downloaded many codec from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/dload.html. Iwanted to create a folder at /usr/lib/win32 but Ubuntu disallowed me. How do I create a folder there?
[03:38] <deFrysk> gmhafiz_, use sudo
[03:38] <TaQ> hey, hello! what are the parameters to mount a w2k partition? just put the uid,gid on /etc/fstab?
[03:39] <deFrysk> gmhafiz_, sudo mkdir /path/to/yourfolder
[03:39] <TaQ> I mean, of course with ntfs as the type :-)
[03:39] <tidalwav1> GMha? sudo mkdir /usr/lib/win32
[03:39] <gmhafiz_> thank you
[03:39] <tidalwav1> uh huh
[03:40] <redlounge> hi. i want to change the automount point for an external usb hdd (now it is /dev/usbdisk). where can i change that? can i bind the automount point to something specific on my hdd (model number or something like that)?
[03:40] <gmhafiz_> How do I extract .gz files tothat folder?
[03:41] <IG0R> hello how can i play mp3 on ubuntu?
[03:41] <johndilley> search for mp3 on the wiki
[03:41] <IG0R> what is wiki
[03:41] <anto9us> redlounge: the device should be /dev/sda or similar and the mount point /media/usbdisk or similar
[03:41] <johndilley> go to
[03:42] <johndilley> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:42] <IG0R> restricted?
[03:42] <redlounge> anto9us: yes, i was wrong.
[03:42] <johndilley> yeah, mp3 is technically patented IIRC
[03:42] <IG0R> i c
[03:42] <IG0R> thnx
[03:42] <redlounge> anto9us: but i want to change /media/usbdisk
[03:43] <gmhafiz_> I can't extract files to thw win32 folder. It says "You don't have the right permission to extract archives in the folder /usr/lib/win32"
[03:43] <johndilley> hold on, I might have the wrong page
[03:43] <Krul> i wana make a backup form my ntfs partion to a windows share...
[03:43] <anto9us> redlounge: you on breezy?
[03:44] <redlounge> anto9us: yes
[03:44] <IG0R> The group that holds the patent on MP3's demands that for each player with MP3 support a 75 cent fee must be paid
[03:44] <IG0R> whats that?
[03:44] <anto9us> redlounge: try System | Administration | Disks
[03:45] <redlounge> anto9us: oh, cool. but i have to check if i can bind this to 2 special model (i have 2 external usb hdds)
[03:46] <corincole_>  /msg nickserv link corincole carrot05
[03:46] <anto9us> redlounge: lsusb and dmesg may be useful commands for you
[03:47] <jamie> I got a source .deb file. How do I install it?
[03:47] <redlounge> anto9us: ok, thx. i will have a look
[03:47] <defcon8> how do i enable mplayer to scale up movies if they are smaller than the screen?
[03:47] <Krul> anto9us: i wana make a backup form my ntfs partion to a windows share. but how?
[03:47] <anto9us> Krul: have you got write permissions for the windows share?
[03:47] <pybe> defcon8: f
[03:47] <Krul> yes
[03:47] <xukun> is there a nmap option which can see all the host which are connected on router. namp -sP doesnt do the trick
[03:48] <defcon8> pybe, naah that is full screen
[03:48] <xukun> nmap ..
[03:48] <defcon8> mine does full screen but still doesnt scale the movie up
[03:48] <pybe> defcon8: yeah scaled up
[03:48] <anto9us> Krul: look at rsync
[03:48] <defcon8> ahh well then
[03:48] <defcon8> nvm
[03:48] <pybe> defcon8: the movie stays same size with a boarder?
[03:48] <jamie> Little help? :(
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> hey guys is it me or there is no source cd for breezy ?
[03:48] <defcon8> pybe, yeah it has black all around
[03:48] <defcon8> happens with two of my films
[03:48] <pybe> defcon8: thats not right
[03:49] <Mon> wickedpuppy: nope you'll have to download the src-packages
[03:49] <defcon8> mplayer -vo xv
[03:49] <defcon8> ok
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> src packages ? from ?
[03:49] <surfk> hi! how to install the kernel headers for my current kernel?
[03:49] <Mon> wickedpuppy: you can do a "apt-get source packagename" i think
[03:49] <surfk> uname -a
[03:49] <surfk> Linux sclauto 2.6.12-9-386
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> no that i know
[03:49] <Mon> wickedpuppy: then you should look in /usr/src
[03:50] <Mon> wickedpuppy: try it :)
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> hoary used to have a source cd
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> hmms ...
[03:50] <giasai> hello, I have Realtek RTL8180 Wireless Lan, and I need to configure my Laptop with ununtu breeze... Can help me?
[03:51] <jamie> What am I supose todo with a source.deb file?
[03:51] <apt-get> dpkg it
[03:51] <jamie> Thank you.
[03:51] <Mon> what the heck is "dpkg it"
[03:51] <Mon> dpkg install dpkg remove ...
[03:52] <apt-get> it means use dpkg
[03:52] <apt-get> anyone here tried to install network-manager?
[03:52] <apt-get> I get heaps of dependency errors
[03:52] <apt-get> apt-get install network-manager
[03:53] <theblue> 
[03:53] <Mon> giasai: does the device show up at System, Management, Network ?
[03:55] <kanapius> what do i need to enter into the fstab file to make the ntfs partitions useable for every user ?
[03:55] <theblue> Hi all.
[03:55] <theblue> Can anyone tell me how to scan for and list what wireless networks are avaliable to use?
[03:56] <theblue> preferably using only text mode?
[03:56] <Mon> theblue: try iwconfig --help
[03:57] <aitor> hi
[03:57] <aitor>  I can't make kdm work
[03:57] <dereks__> aitor: you might have better luck in #kubuntu
[03:59] <aran_> ??
[03:59] <deFrysk> aitor sudo apt-get remove gdm should make kdm work
[03:59] <Subsonix> hi! anyone wants to help me with http://www.ubuntux.org? please /join #ubuntux.org
[03:59] <theblue> Mon: I looked in the man page, and I tried "iwlist scanning", and it said that my wlan card did not support scanning.
[04:00] <shunter_> greetings earthlings
[04:00] <surfk> I've made an apt-get install gcc, but when I try to compile anything, it cannot find header files.. what am I missing?
[04:00] <shunter_> has anybody ever installed java on power pc?
[04:01] <apt-get> surfk -devel
[04:01] <deFrysk> surfk, sudo apt-get install build essential
[04:01] <Mon> theblue: i'm not very familiar with wireless stuff. it worked for me once. sorry, can't help then
[04:01] <deFrysk> surfk, sudo apt-get install build-essential that is
[04:01] <philipp> hello
[04:01] <Mon> theblue: maybe you could try some GUI thingy like wifi-radar (perhaps on another machine)
[04:02] <theblue> Mon: The machine that I need to configure this on doesn't have X installed.
[04:02] <philipp> i still have the problem to get an ip from my isp with ubuntu 5.10
[04:02] <Mon> theblue: on another machine?
[04:02] <shunter_> has anybody ever installed java on power pc?
[04:02] <theblue> Mon: But how would I go about that?
[04:02] <theblue> shunter_: There's a version of Java for OS X, that's PowerPC.
[04:03] <Mon> theblue: rip it out and put it in another pc/laptop?
[04:03] <shunter_> theblue: what that i can install on ubuntu ?
[04:03] <theblue> shunter_: No idea, but I know it can be done.
[04:03] <surfk> deFrysk, thx
[04:03] <theblue> Mon: I see, thanks.
[04:05] <ivan__> lkk'
[04:05] <ivan__> '
[04:05] <ivan__> ;
[04:05] <Mon> theblue: but the gui apps probably still use iwconfig and related tools so big chance it still won't work...
[04:05] <apt-get> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:05] <apt-get>   network-manager: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[04:05] <apt-get>                    Depends: libcairo2 (>= 1.0.0) but it is not installable
[04:05] <apt-get>                    Depends: libdbus-1-1 (>= 0.36.2) but it is not installable
[04:05] <apt-get> I get about 15 dependency issues
[04:05] <apt-get> such as this
[04:05] <apt-get> any ideas?
[04:06] <Mon> apt-get: with breezy?
[04:07] <apt-get> hoary
[04:07] <Mon> and network-manager is in hoary too?
[04:07] <surfk> deFrysk, "sudo apt-get install build essential" hmm this did not work
[04:08] <Subsonix> surfk: http://www.ubuntux.org/node/146
[04:08] <Subsonix> it must be build-essential
[04:08] <apt-get> Mon: nope, I want to install it
[04:09] <Mon> and you got the .deb  from breezy?
[04:10] <surfk> Subsonix, thx
[04:11] <Belutz> !ops
[04:11] <ubotu> methinks ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[04:11] <Belutz> Trashcan seems annoying
[04:11] <Belutz> in and out... in and out
[04:11] <Amaranth> apokryphos: ...
[04:12] <apokryphos> =)
[04:12] <apt-get> Mon - yes
[04:12] <Amaranth> it's not a bot attack, it's a guy with crappy cable internet
[04:12] <apt-get> but it chucks out a bunch of errors
[04:12] <apt-get> dependency errors
[04:12] <Belutz> yup i know
[04:12] <apokryphos> Amaranth: it's both
[04:12] <Mon> apt-get: bad idea :)
[04:12] <apt-get> I tried to compile from source
[04:12] <Belutz> well, maybe only me get annoyed
[04:12] <apt-get> same problem
[04:12] <theblue> Do I need to ifdown my wireless card before I scan?
[04:13] <Mon> apt-get: source from the upstream website?
[04:13] <Belutz> Amaranth, thanks :D
[04:13] <Mon> theblue: mm nope
[04:13] <apt-get> Mon: what do yo umean
[04:13] <luminosidade> pplll. onde arranjo o opengl para nvidia?
[04:13] <Mon> apt-get: where did you get the source?
[04:14] <apt-get> can't remember
[04:14] <apt-get> I just unhash all the sources in sources.list
[04:15] <Mon> added some non-official repositories?
[04:15] <apt-get> such as?
[04:16] <Mon> i don't know, theres hundreds of m
[04:16] <apt-get> yeah
[04:16] <pippijn> hi all
[04:16] <apt-get> how do I find out one that can install network-manager and all deps
[04:16] <pippijn> my Xorg fails with No Core Pointer found
[04:16] <Mon> do you have anything else then *ubuntu.com ?
[04:16] <pippijn> ubuntulinux.com
[04:17] <apt-get> no
[04:17] <apt-get> I don't Mon
[04:17] <Mon> that was ment for apt-get, sorry :)
[04:17] <pippijn> oh okay
[04:17] <pippijn> anyways, has anyone got an idea?
[04:17] <pippijn> I dunno how it could happen.. it just happened from one day to the other
[04:17] <Mon> apt-get: tried backports? not sure if they have the package but you can always look
[04:17] <cheesie> !themes
[04:17] <pippijn> one day I shut the computer down, the other day I started it and it failed
[04:18] <apt-get> how do I try backports?
[04:18] <Mon> pippijn: didn't change or remove mouse or something?
[04:18] <pippijn> it cannot use the mouse
[04:18] <Mon> !backports
[04:18] <Mon> !tell apt-get about backports
[04:18] <apt-get> ty
[04:19] <Mon> apt-get: don't want to upgrade to breezy btw? it'll work then for sure..
[04:19] <pippijn> no mon
[04:19] <cheesie> where can i get a list of good apps for ubuntu ?
[04:19] <cheesie> where can i get a list of good apps for ubuntu ?
[04:19] <pippijn> I have it
[04:19] <apt-get> breezy is unstable on the laptop
[04:19] <apt-get> network doesn't work
[04:19] <cheesie> where can i get a list of good apps for ubuntu ?
[04:19] <cheesie> where can i get a list of good apps for ubuntu ?
[04:19] <Mon> apt-get: you tried?
[04:19] <pippijn> stop it cheesie
[04:19] <apt-get> yes
[04:19] <Mon> cheesie: please don't...
[04:19] <cheesie> where can i get a list of good apps for ubuntu ?
[04:19] <cheesie> where can i get a list of good apps for ubuntu ?
[04:19] <cheesie> where can i get a list of good apps for ubuntu ?
[04:19] <Renski> It works fine on my laptop
[04:19] <pippijn> cheesie: I know but I won't tell you!
[04:19] <apt-get> and I had to re-install hoary because of this
[04:19] <apokryphos> cheesie: quit flooding
[04:19] <Renski> What model?
[04:19] <Mon> apt-get: hmm that's unfortunate then.. what nic do you have?
[04:20] <apt-get> Acer
[04:20] <Mon> cheesie: specify your question
[04:20] <apt-get> umm not sure about nic
[04:20] <cheesie> pippijn where?
[04:20] <pippijn> you can't read can you
[04:20] <apt-get> Acer something - everyone has same prob as me
[04:20] <Mon> apt-get: try lspci
[04:20] <cheesie> wher?
[04:20] <apt-get> Mon -- network is fine
[04:20] <apt-get> locally
[04:20] <enyc> apt-get:  what chipset NIC [?] 
[04:20] <apt-get> but it doesn't push any traffic off it
[04:20] <Mon> cheesie: tell what you're looking for
[04:20] <cheesie> mon just a good list of good apps
[04:20] <apt-get> I can even see it in ifconfig
[04:20] <Belutz> cheesie, in synaptic :D
[04:20] <cheesie> how do i load that
[04:21] <pybe> defcon8: just upgraded to breezy and mplayer is doing the same to me now
[04:21] <pippijn> cheesie: by typing S Y N A P T I C on your keyboard in a terminal and pressing <enter>
[04:21] <pippijn> and the letters are lower case btw
[04:21] <cheesie> ok
[04:21] <Subsonix> and without the spaces :)
[04:21] <apt-get> same problem with backports, Mon
[04:21] <cheesie> yes
[04:21] <pippijn> heh yeah
[04:21] <cheesie> lol
[04:21] <cheesie> pippijn you said it wrong
[04:21] <pippijn> no
[04:21] <redlounge> hi. i have an external usb hdd where i need an ext3 fs. i can run mkfs.ext3 on /dev/sda directly. is this ok, or do i have to create a partition first?
[04:22] <pippijn> I did not say it wrong
[04:22] <Knorrie> redlounge: i guess you need to partition it just like another hdd
[04:22] <enyc> redl: should have a partiton really
[04:22] <Subsonix> redlounge: you need a partition to create a filesystem
[04:23] <enyc> redl: you _can_ run a filesystem directly on hte disk and mount it manually etc. but its' not a good idea generally
[04:23] <redlounge> Subsonix: thats what irritates me. mkfs.ext3 works on /dev/sda1 but the System->Disks-> tells me that there is no partition, but i works...
[04:23] <Mon> apt-get: hmm you're in a unfortunate postion... breezy just should work
[04:23] <apt-get> it doesn't =(
[04:23] <redlounge> Subsonix: soryy, not /dev/sda1 but /dev/sda
[04:24] <Xirdneh> hi there
[04:24] <apt-get> the laptop is apparently built for Windows
[04:24] <apt-get> struggled to even get acpi working
[04:24] <Mon> apt-get: maybe you could install breezy next to hoary and try to find out what's wrong with some developers
[04:24] <Mon> apt-get: yeah most are..
[04:24] <apt-get> anyways enough struggling for today
[04:24] <enyc> apt-: but what network card/chipset comes in the laptop ??
[04:24] <apt-get> Mon thx for helping
[04:24] <apt-get> gn
[04:24] <apt-get> enyc: not sure -- will check next tim
[04:24] <apt-get> e
[04:24] <surfk> what is needed for zlib.h?
[04:24] <Mon> yeah the type and brand of nic would help though..
[04:24] <Mon> ok
[04:24] <redlounge> Subsonix: if i create a primary partition on it with cfdisk, i always get two icons in the gnome-panel for mounting
[04:25] <enyc> surrf: zlib-dev ??
[04:25] <surfk> enyc, i've tried that, but I dont have that package!
[04:25] <Subsonix> redlounge: looks like there already is a partition?
[04:25] <surfk> enyc, I have universe and multiverse distros
[04:26] <redlounge> Subsonix: i deleted all existing and created a new primary using all the available space
[04:26] <enyc> aah... zlib1g-dev
[04:26] <enyc> surf: you trying to compile something?
[04:26] <surfk> enyc, yes
[04:27] <corincole> !cu
[04:27] <ubotu> corincole: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:27] <Subsonix> redlounge: then you can make mkfs.ext3
[04:27] <corincole> can anyone tell me about cu?
[04:27] <redlounge> Subsonix: yes. did that on /dev/sda1
[04:27] <Mon> corincole: cu?
[04:27] <Subsonix> the message with "there is no partition" must be wrong then
[04:27] <Xirdneh> question... where can I find the log archive for synaptic?... left it yesterday doing some stuff thnx
[04:27] <corincole> its software...
[04:28] <redlounge> Subsonix: that works. but i always get the two buttons in the gnome-panel
[04:28] <corincole> call up another system
[04:28] <corincole> The  cu  command is used to call up another system and act
[04:28] <corincole> as a dial in terminal.  It can also do simple file
[04:28] <corincole> transfers with no error checking.
[04:28] <corincole> cu is part of the UUCP source but has been split into its
[04:28] <corincole> own package because it can be useful even if you do not do
[04:28] <enyc> surf: if there is a version of the program you want to build in ubuntu THEN do "apt-get build-dep [package] "
[04:28] <corincole> uucp.
[04:28] <Belutz> will there be an update for OOo?
[04:28] <Subsonix> for sure
[04:29] <Subsonix> redlounge: can you give me more information about the 2 icons (properties)
[04:30] <Subsonix> anyone wants to help me with the website http://www.ubuntux.org? if so, please /join #ubuntux.org :)
[04:30] <redlounge> Subsonix: sorry, there arent any properties. it is the standard disk mounter applet running in the panel
[04:31] <Belutz> Subsonix, so you're the one who create ubuntux ? great :D
[04:31] <redlounge> Subsonix: the one icon/partition is auto-mounted (149,0GB), the other one is not automounted (149,1GB)
[04:31] <Subsonix> Belutz: do you know the site? :)
[04:31] <Belutz> Subsonix, yup :)
[04:31] <Subsonix> k3wl :)
[04:31] <derchilligephil|> hey freaks :)
[04:31] <Belutz> Subsonix, i like your dedication :)
[04:31] <derchilligephil|> wazup
[04:31] <Subsonix> thx
[04:31] <Belutz> Subsonix, and the logo is cool
[04:32] <derchilligephil|> can i install ubuntu over remote control ?
[04:32] <redlounge> Subsonix: manually mounting the one which is not auto-mounted gives me 'wrong fs type, bad superblock on /dev/sda, missing codepage or other error'
[04:32] <derchilligephil|> i dont have a crt for my server :)
[04:32] <Mon> yeah i like the logo as well, plain n simple :)
[04:32] <Mon> derchilligephil|: i think if you'd start the machine with a live cd and sshd running you can
[04:33] <derchilligephil|> mh quite difficult, he?
[04:33] <Mon> derchilligephil|: easy way is to pick up a 14 inch crt for 5 bucks ;)
[04:33] <derchilligephil|> i have one here :)
[04:33] <derchilligephil|> but im too lazy for carrying :)
[04:33] <Belutz> hahaha
[04:33] <enyc> i have laaaods of crts
[04:34] <derchilligephil|> one old samsung 800x600 14" hrhr 60 khz
[04:34] <derchilligephil|> i use 1280 x 960 @ 85
[04:34] <enyc> 91khz or somothing like that
[04:34] <derchilligephil|> mh so i have to carry :)
[04:34] <derchilligephil|> buhh
[04:34] <derchilligephil|> hehe
[04:35] <Mon> then either do the knoppix trick, or get unlazied :)
[04:35] <derchilligephil|> brb
[04:37] <j-linux> I am having a problem with Ubuntu (Hoary) in XFCE -- it sometimes takes certain programs 4 or 5 minutes to start.
[04:37] <j-linux> Has anyone seen this before?
[04:38] <j-linux> (Evolution, Galeon, and others.)
[04:38] <Subsonix> not me, but i normally use gnome
[04:40] <TSWoodV> Anyone got an idea of why breezy won't install on a dual Athlon (Tyan Tiger mobo)?
[04:42] <derchilligephil|> can i mount ntfs in ubuntu ?
[04:42] <Subsonix> readonly
[04:42] <derchilligephil|> buhh
[04:42] <Mon> tell MS that...
[04:42] <Subsonix> writing NFS is very experimental
[04:42] <pipoun> as in all linux distro...
[04:42] <derchilligephil|> how can i convert the fs without loosing data
[04:43] <Mon> writing NFS works great ;)
[04:43] <Subsonix> i tried it -> wouldn't recommend it
[04:43] <Subsonix> derchilligephil|: try something like partition magic
[04:43] <derchilligephil|> mhh
[04:43] <Mon> derchilligephil|: from ntfs to something else? not possible i think...
[04:43] <pipoun> derchilligephil|: U can convert that to fat32 perhaps
[04:43] <derchilligephil|> the data is tooo important
[04:43] <Mon> yes maybe pmagic
[04:43] <derchilligephil|> i hate partition magic
[04:43] <derchilligephil|> sux me up 4 times
[04:43] <Mon> make sure to backup then
[04:43] <pipoun> I like it
[04:43] <CGA> hi all && can anyone explain why Breezy mounts my external USB HD with umask=077 and doesn't give me the rights to write on it while Hoary wasn't doing this shit? TIA
[04:43] <derchilligephil|> mhh
[04:43] <Mon> yeah me to derchilligephil| but it's the only thing there is
[04:44] <Renski> 077?
[04:44] <CGA> Renski, yep
[04:44] <derchilligephil|> 500 gb backup ?
[04:44] <derchilligephil|> mhh
[04:44] <Renski> weird
[04:44] <derchilligephil|> negativ
[04:44] <CGA> 250GB
[04:44] <derchilligephil|> hehe
[04:44] <Mon> derchilligephil|: if you have 500gb of "important" data, yeah i think you should have :)
[04:44] <Mon> maybe tapestreamer?
[04:44] <derchilligephil|> not here
[04:44] <derchilligephil|> mhh
[04:45] <derchilligephil|> mh let me take a look at the harddisks :)
[04:45] <CGA> here is the output of mount:  /dev/sde1 on /media/IOMEGA_HD1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[04:45] <derchilligephil|> its hard to get from windows to linux :)
[04:45] <Renski> CGA: what user does it say the USB Drive belongs to?
[04:45] <corincole> how do I install java for firefox?
[04:46] <CGA> is it the one in the above mount output? isn't it?
[04:46] <pipoun> FAT32 is terribly inefficient on volumes that are larger than 32GB
[04:46] <Mon> !tell corincole about java
[04:46] <corincole> thanks Mon
[04:46] <Subsonix> corincole: easy... http://www.ubuntux.org/node/125
[04:46] <Renski> CGA ls -l [path to the USB drive] 
[04:46] <pipoun> so the convertion will sure fail
[04:46] <CGA> Renski, going to check
[04:46] <derchilligephil|> what fs should i prefer
[04:47] <Mon> derchilligephil|: for what?
[04:47] <Renski> CGA: Ive got a feeling I know why.
[04:47] <CGA> Renski, cga cga (my user)
[04:47] <Mon> lots and lot's of mostly small files: reiserfs. big files: xfs, else: ext3 imo
[04:47] <Renski> no, im wrong
[04:47] <CGA> Renski, tell me plea
[04:47] <Mon> i use reiser for my desktop pc
[04:47] <CGA> arf
[04:47] <ProN00b> what do i use to write perl on gnome (i need to highlight {}'s and general code highlighting and stuff)
[04:47] <derchilligephil|> 3-500 gb
[04:47] <derchilligephil|> hee
[04:47] <derchilligephil|> mb pro file
[04:47] <Mon> ProN00b: gedit, kate, bluefish
[04:47] <Renski> I thought maybe it was set to root, as ubuntu doesnt use root, it would make much sense to have it 777
[04:47] <derchilligephil|> mh
[04:48] <Renski> *wouldn
[04:48] <Renski> *wouldnt
[04:48] <CGA> k
[04:48] <derchilligephil|> fuck all harddisks are ntfs
[04:48] <derchilligephil|> difficult
[04:48] <DrTiger> hi! I have a big problem with session support
[04:48] <Mon> derchilligephil|: nice to be locked in some closed software situation isn't it...
[04:48] <derchilligephil|> tru tru
[04:48] <dconlon> leave #ubuntu
[04:48] <DrTiger> when I log in using gdm, the session does not even start
[04:48] <Mon> derchilligephil|: but fix it once now, and you'll be done :)
[04:48] <CGA> Renski, do you think i can set it up in fstab or will it conflict with hal?
[04:48] <Renski> CGA: you can fix it though by typing chmod 777 [path to mounted drive] 
[04:49] <Renski> CGA: no idea
[04:49] <derchilligephil|> yeah but maybe i fucked up in linux and in 3 weeks i can do it all again :)
[04:49] <CGA> yes but it will mount it 077 the newxt time
[04:49] <Renski> :/
[04:49] <Mon> CGA: you can add umask=123 to fstab
[04:50] <CGA> this bugs me so much --why they adopted this stupid thng in breezy?
[04:50] <Whistler> how can i mount ext3 filesystem  with read/write access ?
[04:50] <CGA> Mon yes i know i can add whatever to fstab but i was wandering if it could create problem with auotmount thing
[04:50] <Mon> Whistler: just normal mount should do that
[04:51] <CGA> Mon, what do you think?
[04:51] <Whistler> em can you give me needen command
[04:51] <Whistler> ?
[04:51] <Mon> CGA: automount? not familiar with that...
[04:51] <CGA> Mon, whatever it is called
[04:51] <Mon> Whistler: mount /dev/hda? /media/harddisk for example
[04:51] <Whistler> thx ill try
[04:51] <torontoyes> Anyone here use iSeries 595 ?
[04:51] <CGA> Mon, the magic tool which "automounts" everything you insert in youer H/W
[04:51] <CGA> i guessit is HAL
[04:51] <rjwittams> I get the following error trying to post a bug in malone ( and I am logged in):
[04:51] <Mon> CGA: isn't that gnome-volume manager with d-bus and hal n stuff?
[04:52] <rjwittams> Application error.  Unauthenticated user POSTing to page that requires authentication.
[04:52] <CGA> yep
[04:52] <CGA> couldn't recvall the name
[04:52] <freeflying> oneleaf
[04:52] <freeflying> irc
[04:52] <derchilligephil|> mh help me with my decision, its hard part of the road :)
[04:52] <DrTiger> I can't log into gnome anymore
[04:52] <derchilligephil|> should i really install linux
[04:52] <Belutz> rjwittams, that bug is notable in launchpad developer
[04:52] <torontoyes> DrTiger: what did you do/
[04:52] <Mon> CGA: i don't get it... if you change it in fstab, then each time you use that disk those options will be used. right?
[04:52] <Belutz> s/in/by
[04:52] <CGA> Mon, yes it is && do you think i'0ll have problems?
[04:52] <freeflying> hi you all .if there are anyone use this patch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/grub/grub_0.95+cvs20040624-17ubuntu7.diff.gz
[04:52] <DrTiger> torontoyes: sorry, I don't know
[04:52] <torontoyes> DrTiger: check ownership for .ICEauthority or /home/user
[04:53] <Mon> CGA: probs? ehr not not that i'd know of
[04:53] <freeflying> to make grub more graphical
[04:53] <Whistler> mon it seems to mount but its read only
[04:53] <Belutz> rjwittams, they say it's because their server having a heavy load
[04:53] <Whistler> mkdir: cannot create directory `lol': Permission denied
[04:53] <CGA> mon i'll edit my fstab
[04:53] <ProN00b> Mon, Bluefish looks cool, but can it highlight corresponding {}'s in perl ?
[04:53] <Mon> Whistler: -o rw then
[04:53] <CGA> Mon,  i'll edit my fstab
[04:53] <rjwittams> Belutz: ridiculous for a bug tracker, really...
[04:53] <torontoyes> DrTiger: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:53] <Whistler> em how do i unmuount it ?
[04:53] <Mon> ProN00b: it understands like 30 languages, surely perl is one of them :) give it a try
[04:53] <derchilligephil|> mhh
[04:53] <Mon> Whistler: umount /point/i/mounted
[04:53] <Belutz> rjwittams, yup, you could say that in #launchpad :)
[04:53] <rossi_> Hey there, i got a problem with quake4 and libSDL: ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:54] <derchilligephil|> what are the really good pros of linux against windows :)
[04:54] <ProN00b> Mon, i opened one of my perl scripts, it doesn't highlight corresponding {}'s
[04:54] <Venson> derchilligephil|: linux isn't windows. there's one for ya
[04:54] <Mon> rossi_: there's a post on the forum about that. maybe that'll help
[04:54] <Whistler> bash: unmount: command not found
[04:54] <DrTiger> torontoyes: thanks ... that works now
[04:54] <derchilligephil|> yeah i know i know
[04:54] <Whistler> mon bash: unmount: command not found
[04:54] <Venson> Whistler: umount
[04:54] <go_play> again me.....i get the followin erros while i use iso recorder: Recording has failed. Code: 8004020e
[04:54] <torontoyes> DrTiger: no problem,.
[04:54] <go_play> anyone can help
[04:54] <Mon> ProN00b: hmm weird. but you can enable it yourself somewhere in the menu's (view i'd guess)
[04:54] <derchilligephil|> but what would you say to me if i have a windows car and you want to sell me a linux ca
[04:54] <Belutz> derchilligephil|, hmmm no virus or spyware ?
[04:54] <derchilligephil|> e
[04:54] <derchilligephil|> r
[04:54] <torontoyes> DrTiger: before you go,. what did you do before,. were you installing something?
[04:54] <DrTiger> torontoyes: I simply don't know how I changed the permissions of this file, I don't even know what it is for
[04:54] <Mon> Whistler: indeed, i didn't say unmount ;)
[04:55] <rossi_> Mon: I searched ubuntuforums.org and just get a post with my problem; no answer
[04:55] <deFrysk> derchilligephil|, i bit off topic i think
[04:55] <Mon> rossi_: under breezy, gaming
[04:55] <torontoyes> DrTiger: what distoro you using?
[04:55] <derchilligephil|> mh kay
[04:55] <DrTiger> torontoyes: I guess the session before that appeared I did install a few things but I can't remember a lot, since my gnome sessions last weeks sometimes
[04:55] <DrTiger> ubuntu breezy
[04:55] <rossi_> Mon: found it, thanks!
[04:56] <derchilligephil|> but i have many things to do when i want to move my server from windows to linux
[04:56] <tarheelcoxn> derchilligephil|: http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&q=linux+pros+and+cons&btnG=Search
[04:56] <derchilligephil|> and its hard for me to decide
[04:56] <torontoyes> DrTiger: maybe you installed a window manager or you were setting up XDMCP,. were you doing anything like that?
[04:56] <TSWoodV> Anyone know of any problems installing Breezy to a dual processor Athlon?
[04:56] <Belutz> derchilligephil|, i'm still dual boot with windows
[04:56] <DrTiger> torontoyes: no...
[04:56] <Whistler> mon i type: sudo mount /dev/hda5 /home/toxix/hardas -o,rw and i still cant write to that partition
[04:56] <torontoyes> Belutz: Using Qemu for windows
[04:57] <derchilligephil|> i use windows for my home pc but my server should run in linux
[04:57] <derchilligephil|> because i want to get into it
[04:57] <torontoyes> Belutz: I mean VMWARE
[04:57] <Mon> derchilligephil|: still i'd highly recommend backing up important files. then you can do whatever crazy stuff you want to :)
[04:57] <derchilligephil|> but its very much stuff to do :(
[04:57] <gimmulf> Hi, i got my 2 screens working(using twinview)  by editing the xorg.conf and then i installed the nvidia drivers using the package manager and it worked but now when i rebooted it says it cant find the nvidia module so i have to use "nv" instead in xorg.conf, what shall i do, help please :)
[04:57] <derchilligephil|> yeah tru tru :)
[04:57] <tarheelcoxn> derchilligephil|: http://www.michaelhorowitz.com/Linux.vs.Windows.html
[04:57] <Mon> Whistler: type mount and check if it says "rw"
[04:57] <Whistler> mon i can write to it only using sudo
[04:57] <derchilligephil|> thx
[04:57] <Belutz> torontoyes, well... if i use qemu or vmware, the guest OS runs slower
[04:57] <Whistler> mon /dev/hda5 on /home/toxix/hardas type ext3 (rw)
[04:58] <Mon> Whistler: fstab you mean? that's right
[04:58] <torontoyes> Belutz: how do you dual boot?
[04:58] <asraniel> question, i got a correct dsdt file for my laptop, do i realy have to recompile the kernel or is there another way?
[04:58] <Whistler> Mon so it is possible to make it writable for normal user ?
[04:58] <Belutz> torontoyes, i use my linux mainly, but if i need my windows i just reboot and boot to windows
[04:58] <torontoyes> Belutz: ohhh,.
[04:58] <torontoyes> ok
[04:58] <Mon> Whistler: it should be by default i think
[04:58] <torontoyes> Belutz: have you tried Qemu or Vmware?
[04:59] <Belutz> torontoyes, yes i have
[04:59] <Phr0zenKore> Phr0zenKore++
[04:59] <torontoyes> Belutz: have you tried kqemeu ?
[04:59] <Belutz> torontoyes, actually my vmware doesn't work anymore since i use breezy
[04:59] <torontoyes> Belutz: you need vmware 5.5
[04:59] <nightswim> Belutz: your vmware needs upgrading
[04:59] <Mon> gimmulf: check whether restricted modules and nvidia-glx are installed for your kernel
[04:59] <Belutz> torontoyes, i haven't tried kqemu, but will try it
[04:59] <nightswim> to use a kernel > 2.6.9
[04:59] <Whistler> mon what do you mean? Now i can use it only with sudo
[05:00] <Belutz> i see
[05:00] <gimmulf> Mon:  how do i check it?
[05:00] <Whistler> i wanna use that partition as normal use not super user
[05:00] <Mon> gimmulf: in synaptic, or dpkg -l |grep restricted for example
[05:00] <poningru> can someone please fix the stupid planet ubuntu
[05:00] <poningru> jeez
[05:00] <Belutz> but i just know about vmplayer... maybe i should just install that on my linux
[05:00] <Belutz> and create the virtual machine from my other comp
[05:00] <torontoyes> poningru: why whatws up ?
[05:00] <Mon> Whistler: with sudo you can create files, but as normal user you can't? hmm
[05:01] <Whistler> yep
[05:01] <torontoyes> Belutz: you could also try the LTSP project,. and set up a term,.
[05:01] <Belutz> LTSP?
[05:01] <gimmulf> Mon:  hmmm no nvidia there but in synaptic i have: linux-restricted modules, nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel common installed
[05:02] <torontoyes> http://www.ltsp.org  < == linux terminal server project  #ltsp
[05:02] <Mon> gimmulf: that's what you need
[05:02] <poningru> torontoyes: the planet aggregates like weeks old feeds now
[05:02] <gimmulf> Mon:  but they are installed
[05:02] <Mon> gimmulf: so you changed some stuff for dualscreen support and then it didn't work anymore?
[05:02] <poningru> even though it had it at that time
[05:02] <Belutz> ok, i'll read that
[05:02] <gimmulf> Mon:  just seems like they dont get loaded when starting computer
[05:02] <Whistler> mon any ideas about that?
[05:03] <Mon> Whistler: something with umask...
[05:03] <Mon> Whistler: try adding umask=000 in fstab as an option
[05:03] <torontoyes> Belutz: let me put it this way,. I have a P133 64mb edo Ram,. I use it as a thin client,. it works beautifully.
[05:03] <Belutz> torontoyes, that's sounds great :)
[05:03] <torontoyes> Belutz: the term runs xfce4
[05:04] <corincole> can someone please tell me how to get mulitple sounds working?
[05:04] <torontoyes> Belutz: and loads up the OS in about 10 to 15 secondds
[05:04] <strike4ce> How do I back up my xorg.conf and put it in an easily available spot?
[05:04] <corincole> i remember its possilbe, can find what to do...
[05:04] <Belutz> kewl
[05:04] <Pupeno> I am tring to run some backup scripts that I wrote and I get:
[05:04] <Pupeno> $ ./backup
[05:04] <Pupeno> bash: ./backup: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[05:04] <Pupeno> or
[05:04] <Belutz> i could make use my old pc
[05:04] <Pupeno> $ ssh-agent ./backup.sh
[05:04] <Pupeno> ./backup.sh: Permission denied
[05:05] <Pupeno> any ideas ? (they are +x)
[05:05] <torontoyes> strike4ce: mv /whatever/xorg.conf /whatever/xorg.conf.backup
[05:05] <gimmulf> Mon:  how do i check what modules that gets loaded when starting my computer?
[05:05] <torontoyes> strike4ce: NO
[05:05] <Mon> Pupeno: owned by root maybe?
[05:05] <torontoyes> strike4ce: don't do that,. use cp
[05:05] <torontoyes> sorry
[05:05] <torontoyes> use the cp command
[05:05] <Pupeno> Mon: they are now owned by my user, but I got that errors when running it as root.
[05:06] <Mon> gimmulf: it used to be /etc/modules. now it's done automaticly with hal and d-bus
[05:06] <Mon> Pupeno: chown to root
[05:06] <yi> hey, i just got ubuntu up and running, loving it
[05:06] <lorenzod> Pupeno, what does ls -l /bin/sh tell you?
[05:06] <Pupeno> Mon: they were owned by root at that time.
[05:06] <yi> however, i can't see to get the multiverse repo added
[05:06] <yi> i'm on amd64
[05:06] <yi> and uncommented the corresponding lines in sources.list
[05:06] <Pupeno> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4 Oct 19 11:50 /bin/sh -> bash
[05:06] <yi> but when i do apt-get update i get
[05:07] <yi> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:07] <yi> and so on...
[05:07] <yi> any ideas?
[05:07] <torontoyes> Belutz: Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Official Release comes with ltsp based on MueKow
[05:07] <torontoyes> yi: did you read the topic
[05:07] <Belutz> torontoyes, yes, i just read that, maybe i'll try it later
[05:08] <jstrubberg> I don't suppose there is a seperate channel for ubuntu server stuff, eh?
[05:08] <Belutz> torontoyes, thanks for the info :)
[05:08] <Pupeno> Here: http://paste.lisp.org/display/12727 (those scripts were working on Gentoo).
[05:08] <yi> torontoyes: is there something that's supposed to jump out at me?
[05:08] <torontoyes> Belutz: no probs
[05:08] <Amaranth> jstrubberg: Not that I know of. In most cases if you need help with a piece of software on a server that's project's own channel is best.
[05:09] <torontoyes> yi: chane your sources.lst file and add a de.whatever to them
[05:09] <corincole> can someone tell me:  how can I edit the file esd.conf using terminal?
[05:09] <Amaranth> err, that project's
[05:09] <yi> torontoyes: i did change it
[05:09] <Mon> yi: i think it doesn't work atm. try later again
[05:09] <yi> torontoyes: that's the problem heh.
[05:09] <Mon> corincole: sudo nano filename
[05:09] <corincole> can someone tell me:  how can I edit the file esd.conf using terminal?
[05:09] <yi> Mon: oh
[05:09] <corincole> thanks Mon
[05:09] <Whistler> i type /dev/hda5       /home/toxix/hardas ext3 defaults 0 0 and i can write to that partition using sudo only
[05:09] <Subsonix> corincole: sudo gedit esd.conf
[05:09] <jstrubberg> thanks Amaranth.    I'm playing around looking for a groupware/email/calendaring solution for linux.  Not sure what project I am looking for yet
[05:10] <Whistler> is there any way how can i use it normally?
[05:10] <Mon> Whistler: try changing "defaults" to "umask=777" not the best way, but "a" way
[05:11] <Pupeno> Nobody knows why I can't run my scripts ?
[05:11] <pybe> Pupeno: whats the script and what errors do you get?
[05:12] <Whistler> mon /dev/hda5       /home/toxix/hardas ext3 umask=777 0 0 doesnt work either :(
[05:12] <yi> which runlevel is the default multiuser no X runlevel
[05:12] <yi> ubuntu seems to use something different from everyone else
[05:12] <ubentoo> hello there
[05:12] <Pupeno> pybe: http://paste.lisp.org/display/12727#1
[05:12] <cocox> hi guys, i mounted my windows partitions in the directory /mnt/windows , now the owner of all those files is Root... when i try to change the RWX perms or the Owner it doesnt make nothing... just for your knowledge im using an administrative acount with the sudo command... my mount script is something like this in the /etc/fstab "/dev/hda6       /mnt/windows/d  ntfs    defaults        0       0" y try with something like this "sudo chmod -R 777 /mnt/windows"
[05:12] <ubentoo> doesnt the default kernel from the first install support reiser4 ?
[05:13] <torontoyes> yi,. you need to confirm this,.but I think its 2,3,4,5, and 6
[05:13] <pybe> Pupeno: whats the script
[05:13] <Davey> cocox, you can't CHMOD a windows drive, it doesn't support it
[05:13] <yi> torontoyes: those ARE the multiuser runlevesl
[05:13] <nubuntu> I just reformatted my iPod with Windows, but now Breezy dont automount it anymore. Cant mount manually either. Help!
[05:13] <Pupeno> pybe: backup, I did a cat of it on that paste.
[05:13] <ubentoo> i mean gparted could create reiser4 partitions , but i seem unable to mount them
[05:13] <Pupeno> It is two lines anyway:
[05:14] !alindeman:*! Small regional server split; we're looking at it
[05:14] <Pupeno> #!/bin/sh
[05:14] <Pupeno> ssh-agent ./backup.sh
[05:14] <Davey> cocox, "/dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    umask=022,users 0       0" - try something like that
[05:14] <cocox> oh but i made it in another distribution before!!!!!!!
[05:14] <pybe> Pupeno: theres only 2 items on the page
[05:14] <pybe> Pupeno: no cat
[05:14] <Subsonix> nubuntu: try that http://www.ubuntux.org/node/147
[05:14] <cocox> ok i'll try thnx
[05:15] <Pupeno> pybe: two items ? what do you mean ?
[05:15] <ubentoo> what do you thinkm ? do i have to change the stuff back to reiser3 ?
[05:15] <Pupeno> pybe: here http://paste.lisp.org/display/12727#1 I rut cat backup, that is my script.
[05:15] <cocox> what does umask=022,users 0 means ??
[05:15] <Whistler> mon sudo chown helped me thx for help
[05:16] <pybe> Pupeno: change it to #!/bin/bash
[05:17] <tiredbones> I download Breezy and verify with md5sum. I did burnt the cd using the default package on my Hoary system. This finished ok, at least that's what last message said. After about 5 minutes into the install on my Dell latop I get a message that the bootstrap program is corrupt. What do I do next.
[05:17] <Pupeno> # ./backup
[05:17] <Pupeno> -su: ./backup: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[05:17] <cocox>  what does umask=022,users 0 means ??
[05:17] <Pupeno> pybe: now I get that.
[05:17] <Pupeno> (it was bash originally)
[05:18] <Subsonix> tiredbones: maybe bad CD-R? scratches on the surface?
[05:19] <pybe> Pupeno: whats in backup.sh?
[05:19] <Subsonix> try another cdrom device if you have one
[05:19] <Belutz> !ops
[05:19] <ubotu> ops is, like, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[05:19] <pybe> here we go
[05:19] <tiredbones> Subsonix, I guess that's posssible, I'll try burnning another on.
[05:19] <Belutz> spambots
[05:20] <pybe> Belutz: no netsplit
[05:20] <Seveas> Belutz, ?
[05:20] <Pupeno> pybe: http://paste.lisp.org/display/12727#3
[05:20] <Belutz> isn't spambots? iueoaai and oWiCtariho ?
[05:20] <Subsonix> anyone knows how to start Ubuntu from an USB stick?
[05:20] <Seveas> Belutz, each host joins no more than 3 times, as long as it's one or a few hosts I prefer not to lock the channel
[05:20] <Seveas> Belutz, yes they are
[05:21] <alexissoft> hi
[05:21] <Belutz> ok Seveas, my bad
[05:21] <tomasz_> hi all - what should I do to get rid of this "GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release ..." error, that stared to arise recently during the update ?
[05:22] <pybe> Pupeno: try using the full path to ssh-agent
[05:22] <nubuntu> when mounting my iPod I get--> /dev/sdc2:No such file or directory
[05:22] <Subsonix> is /dev/sdc2 the right device?
[05:23] <Pupeno> pybe: same thing.
[05:23] <nubuntu> used to be. how do I know
[05:23] <pybe> tomasz_: sudo rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[05:23] <pybe> tomasz_: then sudo apt-get update
[05:23] <tomasz_> pybe: thx
[05:24] <pybe> Pupeno: bizare
[05:24] <pybe> tomasz_: np
[05:24] <Pupeno> pybe: indeed.
[05:24] <Pupeno> I have an idea.
[05:24] <nubuntu> Subsonix, How do I know where it is then
[05:24] <Pupeno> got it!
[05:24] <pybe> Pupeno: what happens if you run the line in a console
[05:25] <pybe> Pupeno: what was it
[05:25] <cocox> somebody knows when can i found some decoders for see an .avi movie in totem ?? i try but totem gives me this message "There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///mnt/windows/x.avi", you might need to install the corresponding plugins"
[05:25] <Pupeno> the external hd where this is located is in a removable device. It seem ubuntu mount it as noexec by default. *sigh* I'm sorry.
[05:25] <Subsonix> cocox: you need multimedia codecs, see http://www.ubuntux.org/node/72
[05:25] <cocox> ok thnx
[05:25] <pybe> Pupeno: dont you hate when its something completely non related
[05:26] <Pupeno> pybe: yes.
[05:26] <tomasz_> pybe: what if I accidentely removed the "partial" subdirectory ?
[05:26] <Zoohouse> hello everyone
[05:26] <pybe> tomasz_: it shouldnt matter
[05:26] <pybe> tomasz_: run sudo apt-get update
[05:27] <tomasz_> pybe: Hmm => E: Lists directory /var/lib/apt/lists/partial is missing.
[05:27] <toink> hello, need help. i have installed edubuntu.whenever i press number keys even TAB key, a screenshot window would appear. i tried changing the keyboard layouts from 101-102-104-105-microsoft natural keybord
[05:27] <pybe> tomasz_: sudo mkdir /var/lib/apt/lists/partial
[05:27] <Zoohouse> I installed Fluxbox and also Blackbox but when i run in these env i am missing the menus. When I right click on the desktop I am only givien 3 options: xterm, restart, and exit. What is the problem?
[05:27] <pybe> tomasz_: then sudo apt-get update
[05:28] <pybe> back in 10
[05:28] <Vassago_true> 1.5 hour
[05:29] <Venson> damnit pybe, you too!
[05:29] <Surfoo> Hello, someone have an idea about this problem : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79934
[05:29] <Surfoo> i have the same problem
[05:29] <Surfoo> :(
[05:30] <Surfoo> i have already reinstall by synaptic but i have the problem
[05:30] <derchilligephil|> phpmyadmin package broken ? :)
[05:30] <GURT> has anyone gotten breazy CDs int he mail yet?
[05:30] <derchilligephil|> mh no idea
[05:31] <apokryphos> the estimated is like 3/4+ weeks isn't it? So I doubt it
[05:31] <nubuntu> hmmm... my iPod wont mount. In  /etc/mtab its not there. Then what?
[05:31] <Seveas> GURT, no
[05:31] <Seveas> the high priority orders have been shipped, but they did not arrive anywhere yet
[05:31] <silent_scream> how can i configure my joystick ??
[05:32] <Vassago_true> palotchka radosti
[05:34] <nubuntu> My iPod wont mount. In  /etc/mtab its not there. Help!
[05:35] <nubuntu> oh crap
[05:36] <tomasz_> pybe: seems to be stuck while connecting to the sever (http_proxy does not seem to help ...)
[05:36] <Seveas> nubuntu, do you get anything from dmesg?
[05:37] <nubuntu> sorry... dmesg?
[05:37] <nubuntu> ok... never tried that one. Lets see
[05:38] <asraniel> question, i got a correct dsdt file for my laptop, do i realy have to recompile the kernel or is there another way?
[05:38] <Seveas> you should try it before and after you plug in the ipod
[05:38] <Seveas> and spot the diffferences at the end
[05:38] <nubuntu> Sepheebear, dmesg give me a whole lot. What should I be looking for?
[05:39] <Seveas> you should try it before and after you plug in the ipod <--
[05:39] <Seveas> and spot the diffferences at the end <--
[05:39] <majecek> hi there
[05:39] <Seveas> hi
[05:39] <majecek> is here someone from ubuntu czech ?
[05:39] <nubuntu> its like 100 lines long ...
[05:40] <El_Che> any experiences with the ipod nano in linux?
[05:40] <nubuntu> the ipod sure doesnt seem to know its connected. its charging, thats all
[05:40] <tiredbones> how do I get nero? I use synaptic and doing a search shows nothing.
[05:40] <Amaranth> El_Che: works like every other ipod
[05:40] <El_Che> tiredbones: http://www.ahead.de
[05:40] <Amaranth> tiredbones: you want gnomebaker or k3b
[05:40] <pybe> tomasz_: may be that the server you have set in /etc/apt/sources.list is down
[05:40] <elad`> Can I safely remove xbase-clients and then dist-upgrade?
[05:41] <El_Che> tiredbones: there you can download Nerolinux
[05:41] <majecek> does anyone have sourcelist for czech packages?
[05:41] <tiredbones> Amaranth, gnomebaker did not work for me.
[05:41] <majecek> k3b is great
[05:42] <tiredbones> majecek, dosen't k3b require kde?
[05:42] <El_Che> tiredbones: no
[05:42] <Subsonix> tiredbones: nope
[05:42] <pybe> tomasz_: assuming you in the uk from the ac.uk in your host try setting your servers to gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:43] <elro> hi there, how can I find the username and password for the cups admin screen
[05:43] <nubuntu> Seveas, cant see anything from the dmesg
[05:43] <El_Che> tiredbones: run it after installed as root like this 'gksudo k3b'
[05:43] <elro> ie. http://localhost:631
[05:43] <Seveas> nubuntu, paste it on the pastebin
[05:43] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:43] <majecek> tiredbones I think so, but I am not shure
[05:44] <nubuntu> Seveas, what?
[05:44] <Subsonix> El_Che: http://www.ubuntux.org/node/93
[05:44] <tiredbones> El_Che, if I don't use sudo, would I run it like this gt k3b?
[05:45] <selinium> Hi all, I just did a fresh install of Breezy, I pointed fstab to my /home drive. On rebooting it did an integrity check on hdb1 (my /home drive) and it errored saying to run fsck. Now it botted fine, what do I do?
[05:45] <tiredbones> El_Che, if I don't use sudo, would I run it like this gk k3b?
[05:45] <Seveas> nubuntu, the dmesg output
[05:45] <nubuntu> yeah
[05:45] <nubuntu> pastebin?
[05:45] <Seveas> !pastebin
[05:45] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:46] <nubuntu> ok
[05:46] <nubuntu> !pastebin [    0.000000]  Total memory = 256MB; using 512kB for hash table (at c0380000)
[05:46] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, nubuntu
[05:46] <nubuntu> [    0.000000]  Linux version 2.6.12-9-powerpc (buildd@ross) (gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)) #1 Tue Oct 4 18:53:08 BST 2005
[05:46] <nubuntu> [    0.000000]  Found UniNorth memory controller & host bridge, revision: 210
[05:46] <nubuntu> [    0.000000]  Mapped at 0xfde80000
[05:46] <nubuntu> [    0.000000]  Found a Intrepid mac-io controller, rev: 0, mapped at 0xfde00000
[05:46] <nubuntu> [    0.000000]  Processor NAP mode on idle enabled.
[05:46] <Seveas> nubuntu, NO
[05:46] <Seveas> read what ubotu said...
[05:47] <selinium> HI Seveas can you advise on my problem, I trust you! :)
[05:47] <Amaranth> holy crap that's going to take awhile to stop
[05:47] <hendrik> is it easier to install a wlan network with wep key on ubuntu or on kubuntu because i have a lot of trouble installing a wlan network on ubuntu
[05:47] <anatole> ummm, no offense but what's the idea of having no backports in breezy? i can't get to all the stuff i used to have in hoary
[05:47] <Seveas> hendrik, should make no difference at all
[05:47] <Seveas> anatole, such as?
[05:47] <stewski> anyone know how to install real player on ubuntu?
[05:47] <elad`> I want to tell apt-get to only download packages, then, when it has downloaded them all without a problem, to install. How do I do that?
[05:47] <Amaranth> !realplayer
[05:47] <ubotu> [realplayer]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:47] <anatole> alsa-headers... i can't compile mplayer to play sounds
[05:47] <Subsonix> stewski: http://www.ubuntux.org/node/131
[05:47] <Amaranth> anatole: why are you compiling mplayer?
[05:48] <stewski> the package pops up an install that asks me where the rpm is
[05:48] <Amaranth> Seveas: -q now?
[05:48] <pybe> stewski: check out helix-player
[05:48] <Seveas> anatole, apt-get install mplayer-586
[05:48] <anatole> (because precompiled packages have pugs)
[05:48] <anatole> i tried mplayer-nogui
[05:48] <Seveas> anatole, in that case: apt-get build-dep mplayer
[05:48] <hendrik> can somebody help me installing it then because i have a lot of trouble from the beginning i m just a beginner with linux and manuals are difficult to understand now
[05:48] <Amaranth> anatole: you're thinking of hoary-extras or the unofficial backports
[05:48] <anatole> and after some like 10 minutes, screen blanks
[05:48] <nubuntu> !trashbin
[05:48] <ubotu> nubuntu: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:48] <stewski> I got mplayer going after a right song and dance
[05:48] <Seveas> !pastebin
[05:48] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:48] <anatole> and i have to pause-play again to get picture again
[05:49] <nubuntu> ubotu, something like that
[05:49] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, nubuntu
[05:49] <Seveas> hendrik, what kind of trouble?
[05:49] <Amaranth> anatole: official hoary backports probably didn't have everything you wanted either. it only had things that backported cleanly from breezy to hoary
[05:49] <Seveas> nubuntu, ubotu is a bot that understans only a few commands and can give info back
[05:49] <hendrik> i can't get my wlan network drive installed hardware not
[05:49] <stewski> yeah the helps all say just apt-get realplayer but that doesnt work
[05:49] <Amaranth> anatole: breezy will have things that backport cleanly from dapper
[05:49] <anatole> Amaranth: i see
[05:50] <anatole> there was some confusion with azureus also... i dunno where was it in hoary
[05:50] <hendrik> i can't get my wlan network configured
[05:50] <nubuntu> hehe
[05:50] <anatole> but i couldn't apt-get it in breezy
[05:50] <stewski> Ill have helix down see how it goes cheers pybe
[05:50] <termin8tor> hi all
[05:50] <selinium> Hi all, I just did a fresh install of Breezy, I pointed fstab to my /home drive. On rebooting it did an integrity check on hdb1 (my /home drive) and it errored saying to run fsck. It booted fine, what do I do?
[05:51] <Amaranth> anatole: see, things like that were unofficial backports only because due to licensing reasons they can't be in ubuntu
[05:51] <nubuntu> Seveas, dont think I got that trashbin working
[05:51] <pybe> hendrik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:51] <hendrik> seveas i have done this manual http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[05:51] <Seveas> anatole, if azureus compiles against blackdown it might land in breezy if the license permits the developers to do it
[05:51] <Amaranth> anatole: well, i guess that's not true though, we have java in multiverse...
[05:51] <Sonderblade> when i click system->administration->synaptic (or any other program requiring sudo), it starts to load but then absolutely nothing happens. anyone know why?
[05:51] <stewski> azereus wasnt worth the bother
[05:52] <Amaranth> Seveas: it's java 1.4 in multiverse, azureus should work with it
[05:52] <Seveas> hendrik, that guide is on crack (like most forum 'guides') please use the wiki guides
[05:52] <Amaranth> just one problem: we aren't allowed to distribute the things needed to build azureus
[05:53] <termin8tor> Ive buggered up BOTH my cd drives flashing them, once in windows and windows froze and took my drive along with it, and in an attempt to repair it i flashed the wrong drive with an incorrect firmware AND i dont have a floppy drive to boot dos from to use my cd drive manufacturers so im up a creek without a paddle
[05:53] <majecek> exit
[05:53] <Amaranth> termin8tor: Ouch! Yeah, you sound pretty screwed.
[05:53] <termin8tor> now im stuck with good old ubuntu untill i can work out how to fix it :S
[05:53] <termin8tor> yeah
[05:53] <Amaranth> termin8tor: unless your computer can boot from usb
[05:53] <termin8tor> buggered up my brand new dvd-rw
[05:54] <selinium> Amaranth, Good Idea!
[05:54] <termin8tor> well i have a usb mp3 player
[05:54] <Subsonix> anyone knows how to start Ubuntu from an USB stick?
[05:54] <Amaranth> Subsonix: ubuntu doesn't fit on a usb stick
[05:54] <Subsonix> Amaranth: why not? there are >1gb sticks out there
[05:54] <Shadowline> termin8tor: boot from a usb flash drive witha dos imagen it
[05:54] <termin8tor> i tried that
[05:54] <selinium> Subsonix, You can get 4gb sticks now
[05:55] <Subsonix> that should be enough for Ubuntu :)
[05:55] <termin8tor> I installed DOS to my mp3 player but it refused to boot
[05:55] <termin8tor> so screwed =/
[05:55] <kaschei> please help me get gdm working, I've tried dpkg-reconfigure for xserver-xorg and gdm but it hangs with a cursor and no login screen, details here http://pastebin.com/401002
[05:55] <Amaranth> Subsonix: if you have >2gb on a stick and a computer that can boot from USB that should be pretty much all you need
[05:55] <selinium> termin8tor, Has a nearby friend got a drive you can borrow?
[05:55] <Subsonix> Amaranth: just install Ubuntu on that USB stick as I did on my HDD?
[05:56] <hendrik> which hardware do i need for wifi
[05:56] <termin8tor> selinium : First thing i thought of =)
[05:56] <Amaranth> Subsonix: well, you might have to do a manual install on the drive using debootstrap
[05:56] <kaschei> Subsonix: it's much, much easier to do a Debian net-install with a usb key using a mini ISO, you should be able to boostrap that into ubuntu
[05:56] <Amaranth> Subsonix: and then figure out how to install grub or lilo on it
[05:56] <hendrik> driver present  hardware not present i don't know the problem
[05:56] <pybe> hendrik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:56] <cionimba> Hi! I need help to install LTSP!
[05:56] <stewski> anyone got any links for upgarding hoary to breazy?
[05:57] <Amaranth> !breezy
[05:57] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:57] <cyphase> hey everyone
[05:57] <termin8tor> unless i install the bootable version of caldera dos to my usb stick
[05:57] <GregAsche> I have a fesh install here, what do I need to install so I can play avi/mpg/whatever video?
[05:57] <termin8tor> hmmm
[05:57] <cyphase> is Dapper going to have a GUI installer? i know development has barely begun..
[05:57] <Amaranth> !restricted
[05:57] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:57] <Subsonix> kaschei: what's bootstrapping?
[05:57] <cyphase> just wondering if it was already decided
[05:57] <Amaranth> GregAsche: read what ubotu said
[05:57] <kaschei> Subsonix: look here http://d-i.pascal.at/
[05:57] <CookedGryphon> How do I get the new openoffice in ubuntu?
[05:57] <stewski> cheers I should been able to find that myself soz Doh!
[05:57] <CookedGryphon> is there somewhere I can get the package?
[05:57] <kaschei> Subsonix: bootstrapping just means taking a linux install and making it a different linux install
[05:57] <termin8tor> hmmm actually are there any linux based flash tools?
[05:58] <cyphase> CookedGryphon, you mean openoffice 2.0 final?
[05:58] <Amaranth> CookedGryphon: build from source, afaik there is no package
[05:58] <selinium> Has anyone had any problems on boot with the HD integrity check. It said I should run fsck... Any advice?
[05:58] <CookedGryphon> cyphase: yeah
[05:58] <Subsonix> CookedGryphon: wait for the repos being updated
[05:58] <GregAsche> [C[C/exit
[05:58] <Seveas> cyphase, the live-cd based gui installer is a goal for dapper
[05:58] <cyphase> CookGryphon, you could use a third party deb
[05:58] <satafterh> I had a problem with video sync with audio, I enabled dma and it seems to have fixed the problem, thought others may want to try if they have the same problem
[05:58] <pybe> termin8tor: flashlinux.org.uk
[05:58] <Amaranth> CookedGryphon: what breezy has is pretty close to 2.0 final though
[05:58] <cyphase> maybe from openoffice themselves
[05:58] <termin8tor> pybe : Thanks i'll check that out
[05:59] <CookedGryphon> somebody told me the other day that it won't be included in the repos for some reason, of course they could have been lying/stupid
[05:59] <Amaranth> !dma
[05:59] <pybe> termin8tor: np, there are loads of others too
[05:59] <cyphase> Seveas, only the live-cd?
[05:59] <stewski> is the upgarde really that easy?
[05:59] <Subsonix> a ready-to-go Ubuntu 5.10 USB-Edition would be great...
[05:59] <Seveas> cyphase, there will by then be only one cd
[05:59] <Subsonix> almost perfect :)
[05:59] <Amaranth> satafterh: maybe you could add that to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA if it's not there already
[05:59] <pybe> stewski: very easy just done it today took 1hr
[05:59] <cyphase> cool
[05:59] <kaschei> please help me get gdm working again, it's broken suddenl, I've tried dpkg-reconfigure for xserver-xorg and gdm but it hangs with a cursor and no login screen, details here http://pastebin.com/401002
[05:59] <cyphase> so it's a live cd that can install..
[05:59] <termin8tor> pybe : I mean a FLASH utility which i can use to flash a firmware onto a drive
[05:59] <Amaranth> stewski: yeah, it's pretty easy
[05:59] <cyphase> or is it a dvd?
[05:59] <Seveas> but don't count on it to be there for dapper
[06:00] <stewski> just change my repos and mark all Upgrades?
[06:00] <pybe> termin8tor: whats sort of firmware?
[06:00] <satafterh> #Amaranth - i will thanks
[06:00] <Seveas> it'll be a cd
[06:00] <cyphase> cool
[06:00] <Amaranth> stewski: more or less, yeah
[06:00] <cyphase> personally, i prefer a command line installer..
[06:00] <cyphase> but most people wouldn't
[06:00] <termin8tor> optical drive firmware
[06:00] <ubentoo> have anyone of you experienced problems with making partitions higher than partition # 16 on sata disks ?
[06:01] <anatole> a strange question: can i set the gtk theme used by apps launched with gksudo?
[06:01] <cionimba> Anybody knows how to install an LTSP server and configure services? My client cannot locate the kernel
[06:01] <pybe> termin8tor: would touch anything else other than what the manufacturer provides other wise you will kill you device most likely
[06:01] <Seveas> anatole, change the theme that root uses
[06:01] <kaschei> anatole: I don't know for sure but have you tried making a gtkrc in /root?
[06:01] <stewski> 0.
[06:01] <queuetue> Is there a remove RHEL-to-Ubuntu guide anywhere?  I did this once with debootstrap, but no longer have the directions...
[06:01] <hendrik> i have try to instal this manuals with everything nd always the same thing
[06:01] <anatole> Seveas: how to do that?
[06:01] <termin8tor> pybe : The device is already dead from a bad flash
[06:01] <anatole> kaschei: will try
[06:01] <selinium> termin8tor, http://binflash.cdfreaks.com/  :)
[06:01] <pybe> termin8tor: nice
[06:01] <CookedGryphon> does anyone have a link to an ideal sources.list for breezy?
[06:02] <termin8tor> thanks to windows freezing as i flashed the drive
[06:02] <pybe> CookedGryphon:for what location
[06:02] <CookedGryphon> i remember there was one for hoary, which included backports and wine stuff
[06:02] <Seveas> queuetue, if you have a separate /home the sane option is to simply install whilst keeping home
[06:02] <kaschei> anatole: try sudo cp ~/.gtkrc /root/gtkrc && chown root /root/gtkrc
[06:02] <Seveas> !tell CookedGryphon about sources
[06:02] <kaschei> maybe that should be sudo chown!
[06:02] <CookedGryphon> thanks seveas
[06:02] <queuetue> Seveas: It's a hosted box - I have no access to it for a normal install.
[06:03] <selinium> Has anyone had any problems on boot with the HD integrity check. It said I should run fsck... Any advice?
[06:03] <Seveas> queuetue, right...
[06:03] <syn-ack> Mornin' everyone
[06:03] <termin8tor> great.... linux isnt picking up the dead drive
[06:03] <termin8tor> time for plan B
[06:03] <syn-ack> tehintern: I would hope that it wouldnt pick up the bad drive
[06:04] <selinium> termin8tor, did you get that link?
[06:04] <termin8tor> yeah i did
[06:04] <termin8tor> the scan didnt pick up my drive
[06:04] <termin8tor> no surprise really
[06:05] <stewski> so if this upgrade kills my box Im gonna come looking for ya :-)
[06:05] <termin8tor> Hmm, does anyone know of a bootable USB dos version?
[06:06] <tombs> hi all
[06:06] <syn-ack> FreeDOS might me able to boot off of keyfob, but I doubt it
[06:06] <stewski> does the update do anything to your xconfig?
[06:07] <stewski> and will it remove java/mplayer etc?
[06:07] <sunshine> hi im need help im getting this error: when i log in:
[06:08] <[SScourge] > what is the best Ogg Vorbis encoder ?
[06:08] <jareth> oggenc
[06:08] <selinium> termin8tor, You could try http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm what have you got to lose! :)
[06:08] <Subsonix> anyone wants to help me with the website http://www.ubuntux.org? if so, please /join #ubuntux.org
[06:09] <sunshine> xseeion error: file /etc/gdm/presession/default: registiring your session with wtmp and utmp /etc/gdm/presession":o sunshine
[06:09] <termin8tor> ah problem about bootdisk.com is they all want a floppy drive in the floppy drive which i dont have.... to extract
[06:09] <Venson> Is there an ubuntu image available to run using vmware player?
[06:10] <termin8tor> plus they're .exe
[06:10] <hmrocha> hello
[06:10] <hmrocha> how can i change the default theme for all users of a system?
[06:10] <MaTaKs> j/ #ipv6
[06:10] <pybe> termin8tor: I can extract one for you and put it somewhere to download
[06:11] <MaTaKs> oops
[06:11] <Seveas> MaTaKs, other way around works better :p
[06:11] <sunshine> etc/gdm/xsession:beginnning session setup(gnome-session:6698 libgnomecfs-warning unable to create ~/gnome2directory no such file or directory could not create per-user gnome cofiguration directory /home /sunshine/.gnome2/ no such file or directory
[06:11] <termin8tor> pybe : I'd really appreciate that a lot =)
[06:11] <jareth> hmrocha : System / Administartion / Login screen setup
[06:11] <pybe> termin8tor: whats the link
[06:11] <Subsonix> Venson: yes, there is: http://www.ubuntux.org/node/160
[06:12] <sunshine> does anyone know what this mean and how to fix this it sayin my /home/sunshine does not exist
[06:12] <Venson> Subsonix: ty
[06:12] <hmrocha> jareth, i don't want to change that theme, i want to change from human gnome theme, to a custom theme
[06:12] <kaschei> sunshine: are your homes on a separate partition or anything?
[06:13] <hmrocha> jareth, i want to change the default wallpaper for all users
[06:13] <sunshine> kaschei no
[06:13] <jareth> hmrocha : System / Preferences / Theme
[06:13] <termin8tor> pybe : one moment
[06:13] <Venson> Subsonix: oh no....do you have the image, by any chance? VmWare's site is down and there's no ETA on when it'll be back up
[06:13] <queuetue> Is there a remove RHEL-to-Ubuntu guide anywhere?  I did this once with debootstrap, but no longer have the directions...
[06:13] <sunshine> kaschei i dont think so
[06:13] <kaschei> sunshine: cd ~ and then pwd
[06:13] <hmrocha> jareth, but how can i apply that change to all users?
[06:13] <selinium> Anybody used fsck?
[06:14] <sunshine> kaschei im on livecd
[06:14] <perlhead> hi all!
[06:14] <kaschei> sunshine: your home is on a write-protected drive
[06:14] <jareth> hmrocha: don't know if that's possible within the Gnome.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> queuetue,  you are the first ive seen ever mention such a thing.
[06:14] <sunshine> kaschei
[06:15] <kaschei> sunshine: type mount, and find "/dev/hda[number] " entry
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> queuetue,  check the wikis and forums yet?
[06:15] <perlhead> is there any reason why there is no kernel-source-2.6.12*
[06:15] <perlhead> ?
[06:15] <sunshine> kaschei so how do iget it back
[06:15] <hmrocha> jareth, gnome in ubuntu uses the Human theme, where is that theme defined?
[06:15] <perlhead> the upgrade to breezy left me with that kernel, but the source doesn seem to be available
[06:15] <jareth> hmrocha: think somewhere in gconf
[06:15] <hmrocha> jareth, ok, i'll search
[06:16] <jareth> hmrocha: do think it's on a per user basis.. good luck!
[06:17] <kaschei> then "mount -t <type> -o rw /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2"
[06:17] <sunshine> kaschei it say /dev on./dev type unknown
[06:18] <kaschei> somebody who knows devfs tell sunshine how to write his/her drive readwrite
[06:18] <irc> hey.. having problems with breezy and my soundcard.. can anybody help
[06:18] <aimaz> is there a way to disable the pulsating window button in the window list?
[06:19] <aimaz> xmms does it when i change tracks or something and it's annoying as hell
[06:19] <pybe> termin8tor: any luck yet?
[06:19] <smergler> hello.. can anybody see me?
[06:19] <kaschei> aimaz: see if there's a "notify on track change" or similar
[06:20] <Shadowline> smergler: yes, unfortunatly, we can
[06:20] <hexman4> Shadowline: ok then.. can you help me?
[06:20] <sunshine> kaschei it say no file or directory
[06:21] <Shadowline> hexman4: I'm not a trained shrink but I'll try, what seems to be bothering you ?
[06:21] <hexman4> Shadowline: the only reason i said that was because last time i put a question to this chan.. nobody responded
[06:21] <Venson> pybe: you dont remember me, do ya?
[06:21] <hexman4> hey.. having problems with breezy and my soundcard..
[06:21] <Shadowline> hex: what sound card ?
[06:21] <GregAsche> how do I check my gcc version?
[06:21] <Venson> gcc --version
[06:21] <hexman4> it doesnt seem to work.. i dont get an error  ... and theres nothing else using it
[06:21] <GregAsche> command not found
[06:21] <[SScourge] > is there a site where i can get  oggenc for ubuntu ?
[06:21] <Shadowline> hexman4: what sound card ?
[06:21] <Venson> GregAsche: then you dont have gcc installed
[06:22] <GregAsche> thought it came with ubuntu
[06:22] <GigaClon> GregAsche, install the build-essential package
[06:22] <hexman4> Shadowline: Creative Audio PCI (ES1371, ES1373) WDM
[06:22] <kaschei> ok, my gdm is broken, but startx and even wdm works, but I don't want a broken gdm; can anyone help me with this problem? http://pastebin.com/401002
[06:22] <pybe> Venson: hey, long time
[06:22] <Shadowline> hexman: outa curisousity, did you check to see if the speakers are plugged in ?
[06:23] <Venson> pybe: hey :) ....yeah...what're you up to lately?
[06:23] <GregAsche> will mplayer configure fine if I'm using the latest gcc?
[06:23] <GregAsche> it gives me a warning about my gcc version
[06:23] <satafterh> is hda my harddrive?
[06:23] <hexman4> Shadowline: yes.. im not that much of a n00b
[06:23] <kaschei> also, my mplayer won't go to full-screen, it just frames the normal-sized movie in a black field
[06:23] <Shadowline> hexman4: ok, did you check to see if the module is loaded ?
[06:24] <pybe> Venson: working, daughter, wife, paying the mortgage & getting motorbike license
[06:24] <Venson> pybe: cool...hope that's going well for you
[06:24] <sunshine> i've had an x session error does anyone know how i can get back into my system and correct this
[06:24] <hexman4> Shadowline: its picked up by breezy.. other than that.. i dont know
[06:24] <pybe> Venson: it is, how bout you
[06:24] <Venson> pybe: i see you've switched to ubuntu, just as half the other people i know who were using fedora before
[06:24] <hexman4> but both mpg123 and xmms has not returned an error msg
[06:24] <Venson> pybe: just school for now. taking lots of classes and trying to do well in all
[06:24] <Shadowline> hexman: did you do a lsmod and see if the module shows there ?
[06:24] <linuxboy_> if I df -h I see this: tmpfs                 253M   13M  240M   5% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/volatile
[06:24] <linuxboy_> what is it?
[06:25] <pybe> Venson: yeah fc wasnt the same after 2
[06:25] <Venson> pybe: i agree. i've been using slackware for the past year myself
[06:25] <pybe> Venson: never got the hang of slack dont think it liked my hardware at the time, was a while ago thou
[06:25] <hexman4> Shadowline: i just did and grepped for "sound" and it gave me soundore
[06:25] <hexman4> soundcore*
[06:26] <sunshine> kaschei i've check fdisk -l and it say linux is under /dev/hdb1 dont know if that helps
[06:26] <hexman4> 9184   1  snd
[06:26] <Venson> pybe: oh, that just can't be...coz it's simply linux. But yeah, it's surely gotten better by now
[06:26] <kaschei> sunshine: I just don't know devfs commands, you might have to edit something at the command line
[06:26] <Shadowline> hexman: grep for snd_*
[06:26] <kaschei> sunshine: I just don't know devfs commands, you might have to edit something at the command line (when you run the live-cd I mean)
[06:26] <hexman4> Shadowline: got a lot of stuff
[06:27] <sunshine> kaschei cool
[06:27] <sunshine> i've had an x session error does anyone know how i can get back into my system and correct this
[06:27] <Shadowline> hexman: past to me in private msg
[06:27] <perlhead> any ideas why kernel-source-2.6.12 isn't available in the repositories, altough upgrading to breezy from hoary seems to install linux-image-2.6.12?
[06:27] <dooglus> perlhead: it's called linux-source now
[06:28] <perlhead> dooglus: tks!
[06:28] <mirak> gnomebaker sucks
[06:30] <derchilligephil|> the install 386 isos is bootable or not ?
[06:30] <Shadowline> hexman4: if your not going to paste that info I can't help you
[06:30] <derchilligephil|> my pc wont boot from it
[06:30] <derchilligephil|> tz
[06:30] <sunshine> does anyone know how i can review my fstab
[06:30] <derchilligephil|> the live cd workds perfect
[06:31] <hexman4> Shadowline: pasted
[06:31] <Shadowline> hexman4: to where ? I haven't got it....
[06:31] <hexman4> Shadowline: o.. im not registered...
[06:31] <hexman4> so its blocked
[06:31] <Shadowline> nice
[06:32] <Shadowline> go register
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> derchilligephil|,  perhaps you burnt ut wrong. or the file was currupted
[06:32] <derchilligephil|> mh i burn it again
[06:32] <thenuke> how do I extract .tbz2 ?
[06:33] <Venson> tar xjfv foo.tar.bz2 .....also read tar --help
[06:33] <thenuke> Venson: thank you
[06:33] <Venson> thenuke: if you use gui, there's tools for that also
[06:33] <Shadowline> hexman4: I've gotta go, perhaps you might make a post in the forums with a copy of your lsmod and detailing what seems to be wrong and see what they say
[06:33] <hexman4> Shadowline: try it now
[06:34] <thenuke> Venson: no gui for me
[06:34] <robingazi> im absolutely new to linux. cn anyone tell me how i can install real player in my ubuntu?
[06:34] <mirak> why gnome partition manager doesn't write in fstab mounted partitions ?
[06:34] <mirak> robingazi: install it with add application in the applications menu
[06:34] <Venson> thenuke: nice...cmdline is just as good anyway.
[06:35] <sunshine> does anyone know how i can get around mount brezy onto hoary livecd
[06:35] <robingazi> !ping
[06:35] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, robingazi.
[06:35] <thenuke> Venson: better ;) GUI's slow things down too much :)
[06:35] <Shadowline> hexman4: notice message
[06:36] <Flying-Penguin> will anyone help me with alsa multiplexing?
[06:36] <robingazi> okey i'll try mirak, thank you
[06:37] <kilaz> hi
[06:37] <kilaz> ne1 here uses azureus?
[06:38] <Shadowline> hexman4: see how simple that was ?, just turn up the volume and you'll hear stuff from them speakers
[06:38] <bettong_BOFH> how do i get ubotu to tell me about the repos for sources.list?
[06:38] <hexman4> haha...
[06:39] <gimmulf> gqview
[06:39] <hexman4> Shadowline: check pm
[06:39] <Blake_Seven> newbie here just installed Breezy Badger and during the install I didn't get to set root password antone know what it is or how to reset it ?
[06:39] <GigaClon> !root
[06:39] <ubotu> from memory, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:40] <Shadowline> Blake_Seven: sudo passwd root
[06:40] <GigaClon> Blake_Seven, but don't do it
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> the #1 faq pops up again. :P
[06:40] <GigaClon> read the wiki page
[06:40] <rossi_> Someone help: I need 32bit emulation for sdl
[06:40] <hexman4> does anyone know how to turn up or down the sound via command line?
[06:40] <Blake_Seven> don't do what ?
[06:40] <GigaClon> set root password
[06:40] <nightswim> aumix
[06:41] <sunshine> im gettin this error in dmesg :EXT2-fs: hdb1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> hexman4,  alsa<tab> will show several commands.
[06:41] <GigaClon> use sudo
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> alsamix, aumix, alsa-mixer
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> some may need to be installed
[06:41] <Blake_Seven> sorry guys !root not it
[06:41] <Shadowline> Blake_Seven: sudo passwd root
[06:41] <GigaClon> if you need to something as root
[06:41] <GigaClon> use sudo <command>
[06:41] <Shadowline> Blake_Seven: type that in and you can set the root password
[06:42] <GigaClon> when prompted for a password use your own
[06:42] <Shadowline> Blake_Seven: or do like GigaClon says
[06:42] <hexman4> Dr_Willis: i dont see anything.. i see alsactl and alsamixer .. which dont seem to do what i want.. unless im reading it wrong
[06:43] <tarheelcoxn> Blake_Seven: if you're installing software as root that's not in the ubuntu repos, use fakeroot instead of actually being root or using sudo
[06:43] <Blake_Seven> thanks guys
[06:44] <Blake_Seven> how do I get ga graphis interface... I will read all doc's I promise.. but want to take a look and see if this software is what I am lookinf for
[06:44] <elad`> In IRSSI, how do I open a new connection tab?
[06:44] <Flying-Penguin> will anyone help me with alsa multiplexing
[06:45] <ppd> this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79151&highlight=epia+howto blacksheep?
[06:46] <kilaz> what torrent client do u use?
[06:46] <GigaClon> Blake_Seven, what are you looking for?
[06:47] <GigaClon> is there a way to dump gcc errors in a text file instead of on the terminal
[06:47] <bettong_BOFH> anyone no how to disable vsync on an nvidia graphics card with nvidia-glx drivers and nvidia-settings?
[06:47] <OneSeventeen> I just installed Breezy server, and after modifying the /etc/networking/interfaces file with my static IP address, everything went fine until...
[06:48] <OneSeventeen> I logged out, and the next morning, my Breezy server decided its static IP wasn't good enough, and it went out to a DHCP server and got a new IP
[06:48] <OneSeventeen> Is there another place I need to tell the server to stay with the Static IP I've been assigned?
[06:48] <shinu> why dont i have a /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build file/directory on breezy with the new kernel?
[06:49] <sunshine> does anyone know how i can mount hdb1 onto a temporary directory if im usin a hoary livecd and my hdb1 is breezy
[06:49] <OneSeventeen> a simple "/etc/init.d/networking restart" forced the server to read the config file again, and it went back to normal, but I want it to stay normal
[06:49] <Belutz> OneSeventeen, /etc/networking/interfaces
[06:49] <Blake_Seven> I want to set up a home server with ftp, samba, mail, web simular to mepis.
[06:50] <Belutz> OneSeventeen, sorry, it should be /etc/network/interfaces
[06:50] <OneSeventeen> Belutz: /etc/network/interfaces is configured with "iface eth1 inet static" and my network details follow it.
[06:50] <Belutz> OneSeventeen, yes, the 'static' means that it use static IP
[06:50] <OneSeventeen> Belutz: when I restart the networking interfaces, it reads the file and remembers to be static again.
[06:51] <OneSeventeen> My problem is when I left work last night, I logged out, and it was still on a static IP.
[06:51] <OneSeventeen> When I got to work this morning, it had gotten a dynamic IP from a dhcp server.
[06:51] <Belutz> OneSeventeen, is there an 'auto ethx' in it?
[06:52] <Belutz> replace x with a number
[06:52] <OneSeventeen> Belutz: Yes, "auto eth1" then the next line is the "iface eth1 inet static"
[06:52] <Enlite> is there some type of graphical app for X that will allow me to partition/mount a second hard drive I just put into my ubuntu box/
[06:52] <Belutz> OneSeventeen, try to put the 'auto eth1' after the eth1 details
[06:53] <GigaClon> Enlite, qtparted?
[06:53] <sledger> gparted
[06:53] <OneSeventeen> okay, I'll come back if it goes dhcp again.  (but since it happend during a 10 hour span, I'm not quite sure what triggered it.)
[06:54] <elad`> I tried "apt-get dist-upgrade", and it downloaded all its files, and then it stopped in the middle of installing them, threw me a very long error.
[06:54] <Belutz> OneSeventeen, ok
[06:55] <OneSeventeen> Belutz: do you know what the auto eth1 does?
[06:55] <Flying-Penguin> will anyone help me with alsa multiplexing?
[06:55] <OneSeventeen> Or is there a man page/document on /etc/network/interfaces ?
[06:55] <Belutz> OneSeventeen, it's auto configuring the eth1 based on the config you provided in interfaces
[06:56] <Belutz> OneSeventeen, man interfaces :)
[06:56] <OneSeventeen> Belutz: Cool, thanks.
[06:56] <elad`> What does "apt-get -f install" does?
[06:56] <elad`> *do
[06:56] <ubuntu> elad` force
[06:56] <Belutz> OneSeventeen, you're welcome
[06:56] <thenuke> elad`: forces the install if it fails for some reason
[06:56] <elad`> ubuntu: Not fix?
[06:56] <thenuke> elad`: NO :)
[06:56] <elad`> Shit...
[06:56] <Belutz> elad`, fixing broken package
[06:56] <ubuntu> nope that's force installing
[06:56] <thenuke> elad`: so whats your problem?
[06:56] <ubuntu> Belutz man apt-get
[06:56] <Belutz> oh it's not fixing?
[06:57] <elad`> But I didn't specify WHAT to install, so how can this be?
[06:57] <elad`> thenuke: dist-upgrade stopped mid-installation.
[06:57] <thenuke> elad`: it have failed installing some apps before?
[06:57] <thenuke> elad`: and now they are in queue
[06:57] <Belutz> ubuntu, will do :)
[06:57] <Belutz> elad`, maybe there's some errors in downloading
[06:57] <queuetue> Is there a remove RHEL-to-Ubuntu (or debian) guide anywhere?  I did this once with debootstrap, but no longer have the directions...
[06:58] <Belutz> ubuntu, -f, --fix-broken
[06:58] <Belutz>  <-- from the man page
[06:59] <selinium> Hi Seveas, in your multimedia meta package is cant find the mplayer-k7 deb. Do I need to add more repos?
[07:00] <GregAsche> I installed mplayer, but it doesn't recognize that I manually installed a couple of it's packages, how do I stop that warning message every time I try to install something through apt-get
[07:01] <GregAsche> it tells to to apt-get -f install
[07:01] <Sonny_Wertzik> hello.
[07:01] <rossi_> Can anyone help me with this problem: ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:01] <rossi_> libSDL is installed
[07:01] <rossi_> I'm using an amd64 system
[07:02] <FliesLikeABrick> er, will an x86 binary run on an amd64 system?
[07:02] <Belutz> GregAsche, you may have broken packages, then you should run apt-get -f install, or fix it manually by satisfying the dependency
[07:02] <GregAsche> Belutz: I have fixed it manually, but it hasn
[07:02] <GregAsche> hasn't recognizes it
[07:02] <GregAsche> how do I get the warning message to go away
[07:02] <sunshine> does anyone know how i can mount my hdb1 on my computer im usin a hoary live cd my system is breezy
[07:03] <FliesLikeABrick> sunshine man mount
[07:03] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell sunshine about mount
[07:03] <Belutz> GregAsche, maybe the packages you installed manually is not the correct version for dependencies?
[07:03] <new> does ubuntu have a photo management tool like digikam??
[07:04] <Belutz> new yes
[07:04] <carthik> Would someone know of a way for me to setup a service for people to maintain the same synchronized version of files/folder across multiple OSes/multiple desktops using a central server?
[07:04] <Belutz> new, and you could use digikam in ubuntu :)
[07:04] <GregAsche> Belutz: they aren't, but it is impossible to find the versions I need. I got the package working, which is all I care about
[07:04] <GregAsche> I just want to have it stop telling me to apt-get -f install
[07:04] <carthik> new, could use f-spot
[07:04] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell carthik  about samba
[07:04] <carthik> FliesLikeABrick, over the internet, not in a LAN?
[07:04] <FliesLikeABrick> ah, you didn't say that
[07:04] <Belutz> GregAsche, hmm, then sorry, i don't know the answer, maybe someone else do
[07:05] <sunshine> flieslikeabrick it not as easy as that for me my computer had an xsession error and the mount ifo inman mount doesn tell me how to mount my partition onto t my computer in recovery
[07:05] <FliesLikeABrick> sunshine,  you use the mount command....
[07:05] <FliesLikeABrick> mount -t filesystemtype /dev/hdb1 /mount/point
[07:06] <Sonny_Wertzik> Does anyone know what the name of the login screen config file is called in KDE? I need to edit the resolution, its to big.
[07:06] <carthik> Sonny_Wertzik, might have better luck in #kubuntu
[07:06] <selinium> anybody know where I can get mplayer from?
[07:06] <FliesLikeABrick> selinium,  apt-get install mplayers
[07:06] <FliesLikeABrick> er
[07:06] <FliesLikeABrick> mplayer*
[07:07] <Sonny_Wertzik> carthik, hehehehe i thought thats where i was... i just installed kubuntu...sorry
[07:07] <carthik> selinium mplayer-386 (or -686) even
[07:07] <joe_alf> how do i force to eject my dvdrom it's kind of stock. issuing "eject /dev/cdrom" got error "eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument"
[07:07] <selinium> FliesLikeABrick, I can't find it in the repos
[07:07] <carthik> Sonny_Wertzik, no sweat
[07:07] <selinium> carthik, on breezy
[07:07] <joe_alf> and the eject button doesn't work also
[07:07] <Java_the_Hutt> How can i install Java SDK 1.5 ?
[07:07] <new> do u all use xchat? i find konversation so simpler:)
[07:07] <carthik> selinium, what i said stands
[07:07] <elad`> Now X won't start, too. Remind me the name of that xorgconfthingie?
[07:08] <carthik> !tell Java_the_Hutt about java
[07:08] <selinium> carthik, I have just done a fresh install of Breezy and it isn't in the repos. I have enabled all in the sources.list and still cant find iut
[07:08] <selinium> s/iut/it
[07:08] <carthik> joe_alf, right click on the dvd's icon on the desktop and try eject
[07:08] <_Aegis_> disconnect
[07:08] <FliesLikeABrick> selinium,  did you do apt-get update after enabling the repos?
[07:08] <_Aegis_> crap
[07:08] <sunshine> flieslikeabrick when i put mount in terminal it say the dev type is unknown then i dmesg and it give an error say hdb1 can mot be mount because it has unsupported feature
[07:09] <elad`> Guys?
[07:09] <carthik> selinium, enable universe and multiverse too
[07:09] <selinium> FliesLikeABrick, yep
[07:09] <_Aegis_> damn xchat for not supporting /disconnect >o
[07:09] <joe_alf> carthik, there is no dvd icon on my desktop
[07:10] <bettong_BOFH> joe_alf,  hey look at your cd rom
[07:10] <carthik> joe_alf, hmmm try pmount /media/<Whatever-your-dvd-drive-is-mounted-as> and then just press the hardware eject button
[07:10] <bettong_BOFH> see that tiny little hole there
[07:10] <joe_alf> and when i issue mount it seems /dev/cdrom is not mounted
[07:10] <carthik> joe_alf, pumount, even
[07:10] <joe_alf> carthik, i'll try that, wait
[07:10] <bettong_BOFH> take a paper clip amd gently put it in that hole and it will hit the mechanical eject lever in the cd rom
[07:11] <carthik> joe_alf, note the /media/ not /dev/ :)
[07:11] <selinium> carthik, multiverse is not in the standard repo list you get on install..
[07:11] <carthik> selinium, no
[07:11] <carthik> add the word after universe, selinium
[07:12] <selinium> carthik, Can you put your sources.list in pastebin please :)
[07:13] <yoooooooooooooo> I can't use my soundcard
[07:13] <cocox> dudes, i try to install de xmms... i use de tar -xzvf blablabla after that i read in this site http://www.xmms.org/download.php that i should type ./autogen.sh but nothing happens... i also try with ./configure.. but after that  i cant find the make file... any ideas 
[07:13] <GregAsche> how do I force bypass the warning messages telling me to apt-get -f install?
[07:13] <Rawplayer> by typing apt-get -f install
[07:13] <helpme> hey what do u use to rip dvds?
[07:14] <helpme> is there any audio player with presets???
[07:14] <GreenFireD> hello
[07:14] <rikardos> hello
[07:14] <yoooooooooooooo> I have a SoundBlaster Live! 24-Bits SB but it doesn't work in Ubuntu... i'm spanish, anybody can help me please???
[07:14] <joe_alf> carthik, when i use pmount it mounted but same error again when try to eject doesn't work
[07:14] <sunshine> any ideas
[07:14] <GreenFireD> Can you connect to MSN messenger through GAIM now?
[07:14] <rikardos> Need to make a file unwritable, any body can help?
[07:14] <yoooooooooooooo> I have a SoundBlaster Live! 24-Bits SB but it doesn't work in Ubuntu... i'm spanish, anybody can help me please???
[07:14] <carthik> selinium, done
[07:15] <selinium> carthik, Cheers!
[07:15] <cocox> yoooooooooooooo: in other distro i used kudzu
[07:15] <helpme> GreenFireD: i guess so
[07:15] <mwh_> Hi I nfs mounted a disk and I can write and do stuff on it in a terminal .. but with nautilus I cant delete stuff or create new folders
[07:15] <carthik> joe_alf, you had to use pumount to unmount
[07:15] <mwh_> what could be wrong?
[07:15] <Belutz> GreenFireD, yes i can
[07:15] <yoooooooooooooo> I have a SoundBlaster Live! 24-Bits SB but it doesn't work in Ubuntu... i'm spanish, anybody can help me please???
[07:15] <carthik> joe_alf, try pumount -f or -l to lazily unmount it
[07:15] <GreenFireD> Belutz, strange.. I can't :(
[07:15] <sits> yoooooooooooooo: I have an sblive
[07:15] <sits> it works well here
[07:16] <cocox> mine either
[07:16] <mrx___> rikardos:  what are you trying to do exactly?  change the files permissions or make it immutable?
[07:16] <sits> yoooooooooooooo: two things. Is it a Dell SBlive and what's the problem?
[07:16] <sunshine> does anyone know how i can recover my breezy system im usin a hoary live cd
[07:16] <GreenFireD> "connection error from Notification server(messenger.hotmail.com)
[07:16] <selinium> carthik : I cant see it! http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl    ?
[07:16] <OneSeventeen> I installed postgresql 8.0 via apt-get and while it did load the man pages for pg_ctl, I can't actually use the pg_ctl command.  Do I need to install pg_ctl separately?
[07:16] <Belutz> GreenFireD, the MSN server maybe
[07:16] <yoooooooooooooo> sits
[07:16] <selinium> :)
[07:16] <yoooooooooooooo> you can help me?
[07:16] <sits> yoooooooooooooo: yoooooooooooooo
[07:16] <joe_alf> carthik, still did not work, the dvd is still inside
[07:16] <sits> yoooooooooooooo: I don't know unless you tell me what the problem is...
[07:16] <rikardos> mrx__: Actually I'm trying to mount some NTFS drives, but now the file fstab is unwritable
[07:16] <carthik> joe_alf, alright mate, just use a paperclip for now :)
[07:17] <yoooooooooooooo> i can't install my soundcard !!
[07:17] <joe_alf> carthik, okey
[07:17] <yoooooooooooooo> ubuntu not recognized it
[07:17] <sits> yoooooooooooooo: I'm not being clear
[07:17] <syn-ack> Man, thats one of the most obnoxious nicks Ive ever seen
[07:17] <carthik> selinium, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3412
[07:17] <sits> yoooooooooooooo: you're using GNOME?
[07:17] <mrx___> rikardos:  do you know how or why fstab got unwriteable?
[07:17] <sits> yoooooooooooooo: and any chance you can have a shorter nick
[07:17] <selinium> carthik, CHeers!
[07:17] <yoooooooooooooo> sorry !
[07:18] <elad`> I've tried dist-upgrading on two machines so far, and both times the process did not go smoothly.
[07:18] <sits> I feel like someone is trying to do a page widening hack on my eyes
[07:18] <cocox> yoooooooooooooo: try rebooting many times its the solution
[07:18] <rikardos> mrx__: tried to mount the drives first, it failed, then tried again but this time the file was unwritable
[07:18] <syn-ack> cocox: silence
[07:18] <mrx___> rikardos:  what does the output of    ls -al  /etc/fstab    say?
[07:18] <yoooooooooooooo> i try to download an alsa software with the terminal but no find the archive
[07:18] <yoooooooooooooo> sorry for my english
[07:19] <sits> yoooooooooooooo: woh there
[07:19] <sits> yoooooooooooooo: you're getting ahead of yourself
[07:19] <elad`> Testing?
[07:19] <david__> hello
[07:19] <sits> yoooooooooooooo: (any chance you can use /nick to choose a shorter name?)
[07:19] <sits> elmoesdios: ah that's easier
[07:19] <elmoesdios> it's that ok?
[07:19] <elmoesdios> sorry
[07:19] <sits> elmoesdios: fine
[07:19] <elmoesdios> hehe
[07:19] <elmoesdios> now
[07:19] <symbulos> does anyone know where can we find the very first Ubuntu wallpaper?
[07:20] <cocox> i try to install de xmms... i used de tar -xzvf blablabla after that i read in this site http://www.xmms.org/download.php that i should type ./autogen.sh but nothing happens... i also try with ./configure.. but after that  i cant find the make file... any ideas ?
[07:20] <sits> elmoesdios: I'm kinda hoping you haven't gone and compiled your own stuff or just smushed random binaries on to your systm
[07:20] <moua> is there a way to burn a cd/dvd without creating an iso image first ?
[07:20] <rikardos> mrx__: -rw-r--r--
[07:20] <GigaClon> if I have multiple vers of gcc, how can I force a version?
[07:20] <sits> elmoesdios: in a terminal what happens if you type alsamixer?
[07:20] <elmoesdios> sits, sorry i don't understand u
[07:20] <sits> elmoesdios: don't worry
[07:20] <elmoesdios> i loof for many commands ir forums
[07:20] <elmoesdios> in forums
[07:20] <sits> elmoesdios: in a terminal what happens if you type alsamixer
[07:20] <elmoesdios> but no one helps me
[07:21] <elmoesdios> sits, wait
[07:21] <elmoesdios> i look it
[07:21] <carthik> elmoesdios, type longer more coherent sentences
[07:21] <rikardos> mrx__: oh and it also appears that root is the owner
[07:21] <elmoesdios> sits, if i write in the terminal alsa mixer, it says me "command not found"
[07:21] <mrx___> rikardos:  ok so fstab is writeable by root.  you should be able to use sudo to issue the mount command.  as far as ntfs, i don't use windows so i'm not going to be much help
[07:21] <queuetue> One last time... Is there a remove RHEL-to-Ubuntu (or debian) guide anywhere?  I did this once with debootstrap, but no longer have the directions.
[07:21] <elmoesdios> jeje
[07:22] <sits> elmoesdios: that's strange...
[07:22] <sits> elmoesdios: how did you install your ubuntu system?
[07:22] <rikardos> mrx__: thx for your help, just discovered that I had forgot the sudo part
[07:22] <termin8tor> Is it possible to WRITE to an NTFS partition from within linux?
[07:22] <mrx___> rikardos:  cool, good hunting
[07:22] <sits> termin8tor: you don't want to
[07:22] <elmoesdios> sits, i download an iso from the official website, my version is 5.10
[07:22] <termin8tor> beleive me I do
[07:22] <cocox> i try to install de xmms... i used de tar -xzvf blablabla after that i read in this site http://www.xmms.org/download.php that i should type ./autogen.sh but nothing happens... i also try with ./configure.. but after that  i cant find the make file... any ideas ?
[07:22] <termin8tor> it's a last resort to a problem im having
[07:22] <sits> termin8tor: do you want to get the data back?
[07:22] <symbulos> termin8tor well, you can, but it is not recommended afaik
[07:23] <rikardos> mrx__: txh, I'm new to all this linux so it's a slow start
[07:23] <sits> termin8tor: i.e. risk destroying the partition beyond repair?
[07:23] <termin8tor> hmmm actually it might not be necessary
[07:23] <mrx___> rikardos:  hang in there, once it clicks in your head you'll be much happier
[07:23] <sunshine> does anyone know how i can recover my breezy system im usin a hoary live cd
[07:23] <elmoesdios> sits: ?
[07:23] <termin8tor> how would i setup grub to boot up a DOS o.s from a second harddrive?
[07:24] <symbulos> termin8tor: can you copy the partition anywhere, modify it, see how it works, then copy it back?
[07:24] <selinium> carthik, Got them! thanks for your help!
[07:24] <sits> elmoesdios: how did you get ubuntu on to your system? Did you use the breezy install CD?
[07:24] <carthik> selinium, anytime
[07:24] <elmoesdios> yes sits
[07:24] <termin8tor> symbulous, I had a bad flash of firmware onto my dvd drive, and in reflashing it it destroyed my good cdr/w and my floppy drive has been dead for sometime and i need to boot dos
[07:24] <sits> elmoesdios: and you chose a default installation?
[07:24] <termin8tor> the only way i can see me doing that is to install dos to my harddrive and boot it
[07:25] <termin8tor> i wanted access to NTFS to edit winXP's boot.ini file
[07:25] <elmoesdios> i use the install cd, i download it from the official web site, but when the default installation finished, my soundcard doesn't work
[07:25] <symbulos> termin8tor: do you have a dvd, cd reader
[07:25] <termin8tor> HAD a dvd reader
[07:25] <sits> elmoesdios: ok...
[07:25] <termin8tor> i flashed it in windows and windows crashed
[07:25] <termin8tor> so it didnt fully flash
[07:25] <symbulos> ops
[07:25] <symbulos> working usb?
[07:26] <termin8tor> yeah i tried that
[07:26] <symbulos> did it work?
[07:26] <elmoesdios> sits: :( !
[07:26] <sits> elmoesdios: what does dpkg -l alsa\* | grep ii
[07:26] <termin8tor> just says it isnt a bootable disk
[07:26] <sits> elmoesdios: say?
[07:26] <symbulos> very bad
[07:26] <termin8tor> i used drdos caldera 7.02
[07:26] <sits> elmoesdios: (give me a chance! I can't answer your questions immediately :)
[07:26] <elmoesdios> sits: sorry ! ok ok , what command i try to write in the terminal?
[07:26] <symbulos> you take a very big risk in writing the ini files from linux on ntfs afaik
[07:27] <sits> elmoesdios: dpkg -l alsa\* | grep ii
[07:27] <termin8tor> anyway i figured if i used qtparted i could partition a small fat16 partition and install dos to that?
[07:27] <symbulos> sorry, do not know about dos
[07:28] <elmoesdios> sits, ok the terminal say me: "ii  alsa-base      1.0.9b-4        ALSA driver configuration files
[07:28] <elmoesdios> ii  alsa-utils     1.0.9a-4ubuntu5 ALSA utilities
[07:28] <elmoesdios> "
[07:28] <elad`> Say I deleted my xorg.conf. What do I do then?
[07:28] <termin8tor> well i want to get GRUB to recognise it anyways
[07:28] <sits> elmoesdios: are you using hoary or breezy?
[07:28] <sits> elmoesdios: oh never mind
[07:28] <elad`> dooglus: dist-upgrade fucked me up.
[07:29] <elmoesdios> sits, emmm... I don't know exactly, how i can see it?
[07:29] <sits> elmoesdios: just for the record: lsb_release -a
[07:29] <elmoesdios> sits, my version is 5.10 release and i think tha is the breezy
[07:29] <sits> elmoesdios: (I'm checking more stuff)
[07:29] <elmoesdios> breezy !!
[07:29] <sits> elmoesdios: please wait
[07:29] <elad`> How do I create a new xorg.conf, without having to rewrite the thing from scratch by hand (which I don't know how to do)?
[07:29] <termin8tor> once i fix this problem im going to write a tutorial for others in case it happens to anyone else lol
[07:30] <elmoesdios> sits, breezy
[07:30] <sunshine> does anyone know how i can recover my breezy system im usin a hoary live cd
[07:30] <B_166-ER-X> is the breezy bug 'breezy cant automount dvd rom' has been  corected ?
[07:31] <helpme> termin8tor: thats a noble idea:)
[07:31] <sits> elmoesdios: and you can't run
[07:31] <sits> elmoesdios: alsamixer
[07:31] <sunshine> does anyone know how i can recover my partition
[07:31] <termin8tor> helpme : No point in having to solve a problem again if someone else has already solved it
[07:31] <sits> sunshine: (if you wait you might get an answer from me)
[07:32] <helpme> sunshine: what do u want to do?
[07:32] <elmoesdios> sits, yes ! it's running now.. what i do now?
[07:32] <carthik> elad`, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:32] <sits> elmoesdios: did that program work?
[07:32] <loooio> Pat_Bateman
[07:32] <elmoesdios> sits: yes
[07:32] <sunshine> sits ok
[07:32] <sits> elmoesdios: you can see lots of bars
[07:32] <Pat_Bateman> mhm?
[07:32] <elmoesdios> sits: yes
[07:32] <loooio> c oim c berlo lol
[07:32] <sits> elmoesdios: ok now you need to tell me HOW your soundcard isn't working
[07:33] <loooio> tu recoi pas les pv ou koi
[07:33] <Pat_Bateman> ahhh
[07:33] <sits> elmoesdios: (it sounds like it was detected fine)
[07:33] <sunshine> helpme well i need to recover my system there is a xsession error after log in so i can get in the normal way im on hoary live cd
[07:33] <Pat_Bateman> b voila, reee alors
[07:33] <elad`> carthik: Any other way? dpkg is busy atm.
[07:33] <sits> elmoesdios: (saying "it doesn't work" is too vague for me)
[07:33] <OrionBerlin> Can somebody tell me whats the best usenet newsreader for linux?
[07:33] <helpme> cant u mean:)
[07:33] <carthik> elad`, cant you wait till it's free?
[07:33] <sits> OrionBerlin: ooo contencious
[07:33] <elmoesdios> sits: ok, i try
[07:33] <carthik> OrionBerlin, best is relative, try them all
[07:33] <helpme> sunshine: u messed up xorg.conf??
[07:34] <chedabob> has anybody had any luck with the native rt2500 drivers? i followed the instructions on the wiki but it doesnt work. any ideas?
[07:34] <sits> OrionBerlin: I like the KDE one best myself but ask three different people, get three different answers
[07:34] <sunshine> helpme i dont know
[07:34] <elad`> carthik: I will if I have to, but if it's possible to do this in the meantime...
[07:34] <Pat_Bateman> normalement si mais la je n'ai pas d'onglet avec ton nom
[07:34] <termin8tor> Hmmm is there a way to use grub to hide partitions, this way i can hide my windows partition forcing my dos partition to think its the only primary partition allowing dos to boot?
[07:34] <sits> elmoesdios: is it the case that you can't hear any sound?
[07:34] <helpme> then what did u do..that now u should land in terminal??
[07:34] <OrionBerlin> sits, im just searching a nice and friendly userface one ;)
[07:34] <carthik> elad`, that is the only tool that will reconfigure xorg, so i dont see how you can do it otherwise
[07:34] <sits> OrionBerlin: Well, now you're asking ;)
[07:34] <elad`> carthik: I don't think xorg itself is the problem, only xorg.conf/.
[07:35] <pequatre> hello. i need xorgcfg coze my eyes are burning. installed server version, then xubuntu, but it seems xorgcfg is not there. know where to get it ?
[07:35] <elad`> Or maybe I'm a bit mixed up?
[07:35] <loooio> lolje sui con
[07:35] <OrionBerlin> sits, how is the one called for KDE? so i dont need to fetch all KDE things over apt-get hehe
[07:35] <sits> OrionBerlin: if you don't want to install anything new but don't mind missing features evolution reads mail
[07:35] <chedabob> anybody?
[07:35] <helpme> sunshine: what did u do before u landed in terminal??
[07:35] <loooio> on est pas sur le FR
[07:35] <carthik> elad`, the command i specified is the only way you can reconfigure xorg to get a new xorg.conf short of hand editing it - i can;t help in any other way sorry
[07:35] <sits> OrionBerlin: s/mail/usenet
[07:35] <sunshine> helpme all i remember is i was trying to install mythtv and there was somrethin there about the x
[07:35] <loooio> #ubuntu-fr
[07:35] <loooio> vien la lol
[07:35] <elmoesdios> sits: sorry i don't understand you ! the alsamixer is open, but only one bar hace color and says analog in !
[07:35] <helpme> chedabob: whats ailing u?
[07:35] <elad`> carthik: Thanks, I'll try it when I can.
[07:35] <loooio> kel boulax je fai
[07:35] <HiddenFly> how can i open root terminal on breezy? theres no shortcut like in hoary
[07:36] <elmoesdios> sits: i don't know what i need say you! sorry...
[07:36] <Pat_Bateman> loje comprends pas le probleme
[07:36] <chedabob> helpme: tried to install native rt2500 drivers as shown in the wiki but to no avail
[07:36] <sits> elmoesdios: only one bar?
[07:36] <mrx___> HiddenFly:  sudo -s -H
[07:36] <sits> elmoesdios: what happens if you press left and right?
[07:36] <Pat_Bateman> je t'ais envoy un pv
[07:36] <loooio> on est sur ubuntu en anglsi
[07:36] <helpme> sunshine: its difficult to to help u...bcoz i cant know what u messed up
[07:36] <loooio> vien sur le francais lol
[07:36] <elmoesdios> sits: its appears many bars, but only the first have colour
[07:36] <loooio> fau etre reg
[07:36] <OrionBerlin> sits, t
[07:36] <HiddenFly> mrx___: thx
[07:36] <loooio> pour envoyer des opv
[07:36] <Pat_Bateman> oui oui je suis aussi sur ubuntu en fr
[07:36] <OrionBerlin> sits, how the one called for KDE ? ;)
[07:37] <aftertaf> there is always sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:37] <loooio> vca sert a rien de rester ici
[07:37] <lupus_> how can I build a program with debuginfo?
[07:37] <elmoesdios> sits: if I press left, right, I move in the bars only
[07:37] <helpme> chedabob: sorry dude...ive no xp with these drivers and im myself newbie:0
[07:37] <pequatre> aftertaf, it's buggy here
[07:37] <derchilligephil|> where can i get the server iso
[07:37] <carthik> lupus_, which language?
[07:37] <elmoesdios> sits: but plays nosound
[07:37] <chedabob> are the instructions for the native rt2500 drivers for usb or just pci?
[07:37] <sunshine> helpme this is the file i was usin to assist in mythtv https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NovaTHowTo?highlight=%28mythtv%29
[07:38] <sunshine> helpme if u scroll down the file and find mythv it say somethin about xhost
[07:38] <sits> OrionBerlin: umm (checks) I think it was Knode but if you want it then it will drag in the rest of KDE with it
[07:38] <elmoesdios> sits: the bars are the volume?
[07:38] <sits> elmoesdios: yes but
[07:38] <sits> elmoesdios: there should be lots and lots of volumes
[07:38] <lupus_> carthik, C something in configure I think I have to do
[07:38] <sits> elmoesdios: not just one
[07:38] <sunshine> helpme that the only time i remember usin anything with x in it
[07:38] <derchilligephil|> server iso ? where to find
[07:39] <elmoesdios> sits: yes, i have many bars of volume, but it plays nosund
[07:39] <sits> elmoesdios: ok we are slowly making progress
[07:39] <elmoesdios> sits: ok ok
[07:39] <sits> elmoesdios: how do you know it makes no sound?
[07:40] <elmoesdios> sits: the problem is that my soundcard that no install, and y don't know how to install it
[07:40] <helpme> sorry sunshine im myself a bit of a newbie........try asking in other linux channels too....im not familiar with all this
[07:40] <elmoesdios> sits: cause the default ubuntu not instaled it
[07:40] <elad`> I'm trying to complete the dist-upgrade, but it keeps halting me on gvlc_0.8.4. Help?
[07:40] <derchilligephil|> is here nobody who knows where i can get the server iso file, cant find it on the ubuntu page
[07:41] <thenuke> derchilligephil|: there is no such thing as server iso
[07:41] <derchilligephil|> got it
[07:41] <derchilligephil|> how can i set it up with a desktio
[07:41] <CrakerJak> hey guyz
[07:41] <derchilligephil|> desktop
[07:41] <sunshine> sits what about u do u know anything about the x host
[07:41] <Blake_Seven> I am getting a error when xserver starts... it says my graphic setting is wrong. How do I fix this ?
[07:41] <carthik> lupus_, when you compile it use the -d option, read man gcc or man gdb for more info
[07:41] <thenuke> derchilligephil|: when you boot the install cd you can choose to do server-install
[07:41] <sits> sunshine: I know a bit
[07:41] <CrakerJak> can any please help i need to know how to change access elev to my widnows Hard drive so it can be access, through ubuntu
[07:41] <helpme> is there a problem with ubuntu in automounting? or is it rumour??
[07:42] <thenuke> derchilligephil|: read the help pages at the first prompt
[07:42] <Seveas> Blake_Seven, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:42] <sits> subterrific: but I seem to be being accused of not knowing how to install someone's soundcard at the moment
[07:42] <sits> sunshine: but I seem to be being accused of not knowing how to install someone's soundcard at the moment
[07:42] <lupus_> carthik, isn't there an easy configure option :p
[07:42] <sits> sunshine: which is making me wonder whether I want to hang around this IRC channel any longer
[07:42] <CrakerJak> helpme, kind of with the access to the partions thata re auto mounted!
[07:43] <sits> subterrific: sorry mistabed there...
[07:43] <CrakerJak> so can anyone help me ??
[07:43] <mrx___> derchilligephil|:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/5.10/
[07:43] <sits> elmoesdios: your sound card HAS been detected
[07:43] <djm62> helpme: I haven't had any problems, nor have I heard any rumours
[07:43] <sits> elmoesdios: please do not say otherwise
[07:43] <derchilligephil|> yeah ive got it
[07:43] <helpme> i see
[07:43] <sits> elmoesdios: your problem is that you cannot hear sound
[07:43] <sits> elmoesdios: which could be a) Your speakers are plugged into the wrong socket
[07:43] <sunshine> sits if u are ready to go that cool ill ask someone else
[07:43] <carthik> lupus_, ./configure --enable-debug
[07:43] <helpme> CrakerJak: do u smply want to access ur win partitions?
[07:44] <derchilligephil|> and how can i run the installation with desktop enviroment
[07:44] <CrakerJak> yea
[07:44] <sits> elmoesdios: b) you haven't turned the volume up on your hifi
[07:44] <derchilligephil|> i read there is by default no desktop
[07:44] <CrakerJak> helpme, but I can only do it using the terminal!
[07:44] <sits> elmoesdios: c) One of the MANY volumes you have told me about is down too low
[07:44] <Seveas> derchilligephil|, if you want a desktop, grab a normal ubuntu cd
[07:44] <lupus_> has someone been playing with sysprof on ubuntu?
[07:44] <helpme> CrakerJak: huh? have a look at ur fstab file
[07:44] <Blake_Seven> Seveas: xserver-xorg not installed
[07:44] <sits> elmoesdios: d) Your volume's are fine but you aren't playing a sound
[07:44] <Seveas> there is *no difference* except the packages installed by default..
[07:45] <joe_alf> carthik, now i know why i can't eject the dvdrom. co'z i currently running vmware so it was kinda mounted on it also. but anyway i was able to eject from there.
[07:45] <Seveas> Blake_Seven, are you on warty?!
[07:45] <seife> wich good IDE u guys recommend to me?
[07:45] <derchilligephil|> mh kay
[07:45] <elmoesdios> sits: the volume is correct, and my speakers are on... but i belive that my soundcard isn't installed !!! :P
[07:45] <derchilligephil|> as u wish :)
[07:45] <Seveas> seife, vim :)
[07:45] <CrakerJak> helpme, yea looking right now.. its just mounted there is no umaks set or anothing!
[07:45] <CrakerJak> umask*
[07:45] <mrx___> derchilligephil|:  what are you trying to do with the server install?
[07:45] <Blake_Seven> Breezy Bager
[07:45] <lupus_> are there debuginfo packages for ubuntu like for fedora>
[07:45] <carthik> joe_alf, there ya go!
[07:45] <lupus_> ?
[07:45] <Seveas> Blake_Seven, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:45] <derchilligephil|> to install it on my server , but i want a desktop
[07:45] <CrakerJak> helpme, dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[07:45] <aftertaf> elmoesdios, type lspci, tell us what your soundcard is.
[07:45] <derchilligephil|> because im a winkid
[07:45] <Seveas> lupus_, yes
[07:45] <mrx___> derchilligephil|:  might be easier to add the packages you want to a desktop install if you want x and a fancy gui too
[07:46] <sits> elmoesdios: what does lsmod | grep emu
[07:46] <sits> elmoesdios: say?
[07:46] <lupus_> Seveas, how do I get them?
[07:46] <sits> elmoesdios: does it list a whole lot of stuff?
[07:46] <Blake_Seven> thanks
[07:46] <derchilligephil|> yeah
[07:46] <Seveas> install the -dbg versions
[07:46] <derchilligephil|> ive burned to times the ubuntu cd
[07:46] <derchilligephil|> everytime is there an error :(
[07:46] <derchilligephil|> try now with lower speed
[07:46] <elmoesdios> aftertaf: my soundcard is a Sound Blaster Live! 24-Bit SB
[07:46] <carthik> lupus_ http://live.gnome.org/GettingTraces_2fDistroSpecificInstructions
[07:46] <Seveas> check the md5sum of your iso... derchilligephil|
[07:46] <derchilligephil|> initd-tools could not load or s/t
[07:46] <sunshine> i had a xsession error and cant access my computer does anyone know how to fix this
[07:47] <carthik> lupus_, i answered your last two questions using google :)
[07:47] <sits> aftertaf: he has an sblive 24 (apparently)
[07:47] <mrx___> derchilligephil|:  or maybe dl from a different mirror
[07:47] <elad`> Seveas: dist-upgrade stuck, tells me some dependencies are missing or something. Help?
[07:47] <sits> aftertaf: alsamixer is listing mixers
[07:47] <Seveas> elad`, put your sources.list on the pastebin
[07:47] <aftertaf> elmoesdios, what does lspci say?
[07:47] <Java_the_Hutt> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpgk: command not found
[07:47] <Java_the_Hutt> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpgk: command not found
[07:47] <Java_the_Hutt> Hello i am getting the following erro while installing jdk :
[07:47] <djm62> does anyone have a solution to nautilus eating memory and slowing to a crawl when previewing large directories of images/video? on my 512M machine, browsing openclipart is painful
[07:47] <Java_the_Hutt> sorry for flooding
[07:47] <aftertaf> sits, ok. so it is installed
[07:47] <helpme> CrakerJak: i cant seem to understand what the prob maybe.......
[07:47] <sits> aftertaf: ssh
[07:47] <Seveas> make-jpkg
[07:47] <Seveas> you spelled it wrong
[07:47] <elad`> Seveas: X isn't running, but they're what they should be.
[07:47] <asraniel> hi, i need some quik help. acpi is bogus on my laptop, how can i make that linux doesent shutdown if the temperature is too high? linux thinks my laptop is at 144 celsius...
[07:47] <sits> aftertaf: elmoesdios doesn't believe me when I say that
[07:47] <derchilligephil|> is there a windows tool to easy check md5sum
[07:47] <carthik> Java_the_Hutt, have you install the package containing make-jpkg ?
[07:47] <CrakerJak> helpme, ok
[07:47] <aftertaf> ssh ? or dont make noise??? ;)
[07:48] <Java_the_Hutt> oh
[07:48] <Java_the_Hutt> fool me
[07:48] <elmoesdios> sits
[07:48] <elmoesdios> aftertaf
[07:48] <elmoesdios> Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[07:48] <aftertaf> whats that command to show all installed soundcards again?
[07:48] <mrx___> derchilligephil|:   iirc there is, http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html
[07:48] <rightc0ast> aftertaf, unless he was just saying ...my soundcard is, and not actually telling you the output of lspci
[07:48] <Seveas> elad`, wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | python pastebin
[07:48] <derchilligephil|> thx
[07:48] <elmoesdios> aftertaf lspci show me tha my soundcard is Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[07:49] <rightc0ast> elmoesdios, then its installed
[07:49] <sits> aftertaf: I leave elmoesdios in your capable hands. Clearly the problem is too difficult for me
[07:49] <sits> sunshine: hello?
[07:49] <aftertaf> lol sits :)
[07:49] <elmoesdios> sits, sorry
[07:49] <aftertaf> elmoesdios, and lsmod shows what?
[07:50] <aftertaf> elmoesdios, as in relevant modules.....
[07:50] <elmoesdios> aftertaf wait a moment !
[07:50] <carthik> does anyone know the difference(s) between suspend/sleep/hibernate/standby and when to use which?
[07:50] <rightc0ast> Im having a sound issue myself, but not really new to *nix
[07:50] <sunshine> sits are u back now
[07:50] <sits> elmoesdios: apology accepted but next time don't bite the hand that's trying to help you eh? I know your card was installed but you insisted otherwise. What am I supposed to think?
[07:50] <elad`> Seveas: 3413
[07:50] <sits> sunshine: yup
[07:50] <sits> sunshine: I'm paying attention
[07:50] <rightc0ast> I think esd is not releasing the soundcard when i load a multimedia file with mplayer
[07:50] <Blake_Seven> where do I find all the sudo commands and a list of the apps to install ?
[07:51] <sits> sunshine: something about you want to recover your system?
[07:51] <graig> hmm, i tried mounting my usb audio player, and it mounted the filesystem as read only?
[07:51] <rightc0ast> Blake_Seven, www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:51] <elmoesdios> sits sorry
[07:51] <sexcopter8000m> can anyone recommend software for ubuntu that is equivalent to peerguardian in windows (an ip blocker thingie)
[07:51] <djm62> carthik: suspend is a low-power state, where things are saved in ram, hibernate suspends to swap space (usually)
[07:51] <elmoesdios> eemmm
[07:51] <carthik> Blake_Seven, any command can be executed as the admin user using sudo. Try synaptic for a list of apps to install
[07:51] <derchilligephil|> checksum is ok
[07:51] <derchilligephil|> md5sum
[07:51] <derchilligephil|> mhh
[07:51] <elmoesdios> lsmod don't show me the soundcard
[07:51] <sunshine> sits lol well when i try to log in it give me a x session error so it would not let me access my system now im tryin to recover my system
[07:51] <rightc0ast> sexcopter8000m, pg2 for linux
[07:51] <derchilligephil|> i try the new iso :)
[07:51] <carthik> djm62, what are sleep and standby then?
[07:51] <derchilligephil|> brb
[07:51] <sits> sunshine: woah there
[07:52] <sexcopter8000m> rightc0ast, thanks
[07:52] <aftertaf> rightc0ast, change to oss threaded or alsa then... maybe.
[07:52] <termin8tor> Is there a way of creating a "virtual" floppy drive within linux and mounting a floppy disk image onto it?
[07:52] <sits> sunshine: can you use a text console to fix it?
[07:52] <djm62> carthik: synonyms, I suspect
[07:52] <Java_the_Hutt> udo update-alternatives --config java
[07:52] <Java_the_Hutt> ok now when i type
[07:52] <graig> why did a usb disk get mounted read only?
[07:52] <elad`> newbie_at_linux: "linux_newbie" is better English.
[07:52] <sits> termin8tor: yes
[07:52] <sunshine> sits i dont know
[07:52] <sits> sunshine: you're going to find out!
[07:52] <elad`> Seveas: Help?
[07:52] <termin8tor> sits : Do you have a link at all?
[07:52] <sits> sunshine: let it boot without the CD inside
[07:52] <sunshine> sits u must goin to tell me please im new to all this
[07:52] <rightc0ast> aftertaf,  yeah i figure its something easy to tweak the pipeling test fails under either though.
[07:53] <mikal> Can anyone suggest a quality text editor with color highlighting for C/PHP/
[07:53] <newbie_at_linux> I need help with compiling tarballs in Ubuntu if anyone could help. http://pastebin.com/400555
[07:53] <sunshine> sits what do u want me to do
[07:53] <sits> termin8tor: you have an image of a floppy and you wish to see inside it?
[07:53] <elmoesdios> sits, sorry, the soundcard is installed but i don't know what to do cause it doesn't play any sound
[07:53] <carthik> mikal, gnome-editor ??
[07:53] <Java_the_Hutt> when i type sudo update-alternatives --config java, i have 2 alternatives, neither are my desired installation what should i do ?
[07:53] <sunshine> sits once i boot it without the cd the error comes up
[07:53] <aftertaf> elmoesdios, install and run aumix..... see if it bugs on loading or not...
[07:53] <elmoesdios> no se decir perdona, esque soy de espaa y mi ingles no es muy bueno, no te enfades
[07:53] <sits> sunshine: ok
[07:53] <sits> sunshine: now press ctrl-alt-f1
[07:54] <helpme> night all:)
[07:54] <elmoesdios> aftertaf, how i do this?
[07:54] <sits> sunshine: does that show you a screen of only text?
[07:54] <elad`> Well, I guess I'm going to fucking format the harddrive and reinstall.
[07:54] <termin8tor> sits : No, i want to mount a floppy disk so i can install dos to a fat16 drive using bochs
[07:54] <helpme> sunshine: im glad ur getting some help:)
[07:54] <Shadowline> elmoesdios: did you turn up the volume ? I ask because some earlier had the same problem and that what was wrong....
[07:54] <newbie_at_linux> If anyone has had problems compiling source tarballs in Ubuntu but figured it out look here. http://pastebin.com/400555
[07:55] <g_ariel> Hey, can anyone tell me what kind of filesharing programs supported by Ubuntu  are out there?
[07:55] <[A] ndy80> hi
[07:55] <elmoesdios> Shadowline: yes, but plays nosund
[07:55] <majikstreet> g_ariel, gnome-gnutella
[07:55] <g_ariel> Thanks!
[07:55] <djm62> elad`: g_ariel: gnome-btdownload
[07:55] <sits> termin8tor: (thinking)
[07:55] <Shadowline> g_ariel: http://www.frostwire.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[07:55] <djm62> elad`: limewire
[07:55] <majikstreet> g_ariel, gnome-gnutella is great
[07:55] <mikal> I keep getting errors from synaptic about not being able to stat packages. Running the update doesnt seem to fix it.
[07:55] <[A] ndy80> on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ website, the link to Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide is wrong: The requested URL /faqguide/C/index.html was not found on this server.
[07:55] <elad`> djm62: What?
[07:55] <sunshine> sits then what.. that sounds like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LivecdRecovery?highlight=%28livecdrecovery%29
[07:55] <djm62> not elad`sorry
[07:56] <elad`> I got all hopeful...
[07:56] <hussam> I need to import a gpg key using "gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D466" but it timesout since I'm behind proxy. what to I do?
[07:56] <termin8tor> sits : yeah is a noodle baker isnt it? I need to install dos to a fat16 partition so that i can boot into it using grub and fix my buggered up dvd drive by reflashing it
[07:56] <Nico-> hi!
[07:56] <majikstreet> hi!
[07:56] <Seveas> oi
[07:56] <elad`> How do I just make it skip this fucking broken package?!
[07:56] <termin8tor> sits : downside is i dont have a floppydrive
[07:56] <djm62> elad`: is that it
[07:56] <djm62> elad`: remove the package
[07:57] <Nico-> I just upgraded from Hoary to Breezy, and now gnome doesn't want to start if the network isn't configured
[07:57] <hussam> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D466
[07:57] <elad`> djm62: I can't.
[07:57] <Nico-> an idea, someone?
[07:57] <hussam> Seveas: hi
[07:57] <elad`> How do I do that?
[07:57] <mrx___> hedging your bets GNULinuxer?   :)
[07:57] <hajiki> Nico-, try adding your hostname to /etc/hosts at the end of the 1st line, the one that starts with 127.0.0.1
[07:57] <sunshine> sits i've tried ctrl-alt-f1 then sudo su- mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt but then i get an error hdb1 got unsupported features this is because it a hoary livecd im usin and my system is breezy
[07:58] <GNULinuxer> mrx___: heh ;)
[07:58] <dell500> is there a way to get xmms integrated with gaim?
[07:58] <majikstreet> sunshine, whats the issue??
[07:58] <sits> termin8tor: you should be able to use mkdosfs
[07:58] <Seveas> hi hussam
[07:58] <WildZeck> hi all
[07:58] <mariusbm> is there a channel dedicated to ubuntu-server?
[07:58] <Seveas> !seen mako
[07:58] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'mako', Seveas
[07:58] <sits> sunshine: boot without the CD!
[07:59] <Seveas> mariusbm, this channel :)
[07:59] <Nico-> hajiki: it is on the line : 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost onigiri (<- this is my host name)
[07:59] <majikstreet> sits, whats sunshine's issue?
[07:59] <hajiki> yikes
[07:59] <sunshine> sits once i boot it without the cd the error comes up what do i do once i boot
[07:59] <sits> majikstreet: xession errors after booting
[07:59] <newbie_at_linux> Free porn here: http://pastebin.com/400555
[07:59] <majikstreet> oo
[07:59] <sits> sunshine: that's ok
[07:59] <Nico-> hajiki: :)
[07:59] <mariusbm> Seveas, OK! Then I am at the rigth place! ;)
[07:59] <sits> sunshine: you should still be able to use the bit of the system that has booted to work out what is wrong and fix it
[07:59] <hussam> Seveas: this is your repositorym right? http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/all/
[08:00] <graig> hey, i am having a prob
[08:00] <termin8tor> mkdosfs?
[08:00] <termin8tor> sits : makedosfilesystem command?
[08:00] <sunshine> majikstreet well when i try to log in it give me a x session error so it would not let me access my system now im tryin to recover my system
[08:00] <sits> sunshine: Linux is much more than X
[08:00] <WildZeck> upgrading to breezy i lost two icones : trash and cleear desktop ... where are config file to change icone path ? please don't work with "ubuntu missing icons" on google
[08:00] <majikstreet> o_O
[08:00] <Seveas> hussam, yes
[08:00] <Nico-> WildZeck: I had it also
[08:00] <majikstreet> newbie_at_linux, doesn't look like porn
[08:00] <Nico-> WildZeck: just go to the themes dialog, and re-select the icon theme you want
[08:00] <sunshine> sits the prob is i dont know what bit of the system u want me to access once i reboot without the cd
[08:00] <sits> termin8tor: yes. It can format a "file" for use with fat. I'm a bit busy so I can give you details. if you want the terse version then man mkdosfs
[08:01] <sits> sunshine: I can help you there
[08:01] <mariusbm> Anyone who can give me tips about loadbalancing of 3 M$ 2003 TerminalServers with a ubuntu server box??
[08:01] <hussam> Seveas: " gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D466 " times out, any other way o import the gpg?
[08:01] <newbie_at_linux> majikstreet: I know. I needed something to get people's attention. I cannot compile that in Ubuntu.
[08:01] <sits> sunshine: but I need you to have booted the "broken" system directly first
[08:01] <graig> i mounted my iriver player,  its supposed to mount just like a usb drive, and it automounted fine, but its read only.  how can i copy my files to it?
[08:01] <majikstreet> oooo newbie_at_linux
[08:01] <newbie_at_linux> I have the dev file installed
[08:01] <majikstreet> graig, what command did you use to mount it
[08:02] <termin8tor> sits : Thanks i'll look into it, looks promising
[08:02] <Nico-> why can't gnome start if I am not on the network? that's so strange!!!!
[08:02] <sits> termin8tor: sorry I can't tell you more...
[08:02] <sits> Nico-: possibly because your hostname changed
[08:02] <cocox> i try to install de xmms... i used de tar -xzvf blablabla after that i read in this site http://www.xmms.org/download.php that i should type ./autogen.sh but nothing happens... i also try with ./configure.. but after that  i cant find the make file... any ideas ?
[08:02] <sunshine> sits but i need to knwo what to do once i boot it
[08:02] <sits> sunshine: I will tell you after you get to the error
[08:02] <Seveas> hussam, wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/1135D466.gpg && sudo apt-key add 1135D466.gpg
[08:03] <sunshine> sits it would take me to the same x session error if i dont do something different
[08:03] <sits> sunshine: (you can use the net and boot the broken system at the same time right?)
[08:03] <sits> sunshine: that's OK!
[08:03] <hussam> Seveas: thank you very much :)
[08:03] <sits> sunshine: I need you to do that
[08:03] <Nico-> sits: non, no change, I just checked it
[08:03] <sits> Nico-: ah ok you've destroyed my one bright answer : )
[08:03] <sunshine> sits how i use the net and boot the broken system at the same time
[08:04] <Nico-> sits: :D   (just checked again, to be sure....)
[08:04] <stevenm> Hi. I have an ubuntu machine here running kernel 2.6.8.1-3. I need to install the kernel source code so I can build a driver. I have never used Ubuntu before, however. What do I do?
[08:04] <newbie_at_linux> Does anyone know the answer to this? http://pastebin.com/400555
[08:04] <sits> sunshine: do you have more than one machine on the net at once?
[08:04] <sunshine> sits i can only access the interent via the live cd without the live cd the closes i get is the login
[08:04] <Seveas> stevenm, why are you still on warty/what driver do you need?
[08:04] <sits> sunshine: oh I see : (
[08:04] <sunshine> sits no i do noy have more than one machine
[08:04] <sits> sunshine: sorry I hadn't realised
[08:04] <mariusbm> Anyone who can give me tips about loadbalancing of 3 M$ 2003 TerminalServers with a ubuntu server box??
[08:04] <sunshine> sits that cool
[08:04] <sits> sunshine: (thinking)
[08:05] <WildZeck> thks Nico-  it's working :) kewl
[08:05] <Seveas> newbie_at_linux, apt-get build-dep gaim
[08:05] <stevenm> Seveas, long story, the ndiswrapper module is not working/got overwritten/"Invalid Module Format"
[08:05] <Seveas> Nico-, just read selectively :)
[08:05] <Nico-> WildZeck: welcome
[08:05] <termin8tor> sits: That was exactly the sort of thing i was after, Thanks a ton!
[08:05] <sits> sunshine: what does fdisk -l | grep Ext
[08:05] <Seveas> stevenm, breezy has a much newer ndiswrapper
[08:05] <sunshine> majikstreet have any ideas
[08:05] <sits> sunshine: (you will need to be root or use sudo though)
[08:05] <Seveas> you might have more luck there
[08:05] <chrisb> are there many ppc ubuntu users here?
[08:05] <stevenm> Seveas, It is not my machine.. I just need the source so I can rebuild ndiswapper..
[08:05] <sits> termin8tor: good lukc
[08:05] <Nico-> Seveas: but a single question has a very short life....
[08:05] <sunshine> sits no i dont i can access via sudo -i
[08:06] <Seveas> stevenm, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.8
[08:06] <d03boy> waht version is ndiswrapper now? 1.0?
[08:06] <stevenm> Seveas, I downloaded 1.4, installed the driver just need to compile the module now..
[08:06] <Seveas> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[08:06] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: (Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper), section misc, is optional. Version: 1.1-4ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 128 kB
[08:06] <sits> sunshine: ok become root and run
[08:06] <Seveas> stevenm, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.8 <--
[08:06] <sits> sunshine: fdisk -l | grep Ext
[08:06] <Seveas> that'' give you the sources
[08:06] <sits> sunshine: what does it say?
[08:06] <stevenm> Seveas, no such package
[08:07] <rightc0ast> stevenm, try this one # sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:07] <sunshine> sits it say dev/hdb1 is linux hdb2 is extended and hdb5 is linux
[08:07] <Seveas> rightc0ast, right, good catch...
[08:07] <rightc0ast> then get the new kernel
[08:07] <sits> sunshine: do you have more than one hard disk in your machine?
[08:08] <stevenm> rightc0ast, it's doing something... apt is busily working
[08:08] <sunshine> sits i dont think so i think hdb5 is the live cd
[08:08] <sits> sunshine: unlikely
[08:08] <sits> sunshine: ok do this next
[08:08] <sits> sunshine: mkdir /harddisk
[08:08] <sits> sunshine: did that work?
[08:08] <sunshine> sits then probably
[08:09] <rightc0ast> stevenm, heres a link with the same line http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/compile-kernel-module
[08:09] <sunshine> sits it made the directory
[08:10] <sits> sunshine: next do
[08:10] <ubuntu_> can I mount an ntfs partition while I'm using ubuntu live
[08:10] <sits> sunshine: mount /dev/hdb5 /harddisk
[08:10] <sits> sunshine: any error messages?
[08:10] <d03boy> <3 downloading updates at 1079KB/s
[08:10] <Seveas> ubuntu_, yes, but you cannot write to t
[08:10] <stevenm> rightc0ast, Seveas, works now, thank you
[08:11] <sunshine> sits it say /dev/hdb5 look likes a swapfile not mounted
[08:11] <rightc0ast> w00t
[08:11] <rightc0ast> np
[08:11] <ubuntu_> thx
[08:11] <sits> sunshine: my bad
[08:11] <sits> sunshine: mount /dev/hdb2 /harddisk
[08:12] <sunshine> sits error you must specify the filesystem type
[08:12] <kisielk> hey people
[08:12] <kisielk> I have a few questions
[08:12] <sits> sunshine: hmm
[08:12] <kisielk> 1) which package do I install to get all the C development stuff ? (gcc, make, etc?)
[08:12] <sits> sunshine: what does fdisk -l /dev/hda
[08:12] <sits> sunshine: say?
[08:12] <bslima> wich one is better testing or unstable ?
[08:13] <rightc0ast> kisielk, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[08:13] <bslima> if i am going to install a not stable version
[08:13] <bslima> wich one is better ?
[08:13] <kisielk> rightc0ast: ok cool thanks
[08:13] <sunshine> sits i believe it has to do with me usin a hoary livecd and mysystem breezy
[08:13] <rightc0ast> np
[08:13] <djm62> bslima: whatever one serves your needs best
[08:13] <kisielk> 2) is there a way I can choose X resolution from KDM/GDM whatever?
[08:13] <bslima> djm62, thanks
[08:13] <sits> sunshine: that can't be
[08:13] <sunshine> sits did u mean fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[08:13] <sits> sunshine: nope
[08:13] <kisielk> the thing is, I don't know in advance what resolution I will be runnin
[08:14] <sits> sunshine: I meant hd*a*
[08:14] <sits> sunshine: I'm expecting an error you see
[08:14] <sunshine> sits well nothin happen not even an error
[08:14] <djm62> bslima: there is no objective standard, feel free to set your own criteria (but when you stray from stable, there be dragons)
[08:14] <sits> sunshine: /dev/hd* represent IDE disks and their partitions
[08:14] <spiral> hi
[08:14] <sunshine> sits yea but my system arre on hd*b*
[08:15] <sits> sunshine: I happen to know that CDs almost never have partitions so I have 99% certainty that /dev/hdb is actually your hard disk
[08:15] <rejden> hello, anyone got w32codecs.deb?
[08:15] <rightc0ast> kisielk, after you install, if you meant that, there will be a resoulution setting under system>preferences>screen resolution for that
[08:15] <sunshine> sits well i am in root
[08:15] <rightc0ast> kisielk, in gnome anyways
[08:15] <stevenm> Dues ubuntu have a file listing modules to be loaded at boot? If so, where is it?
[08:15] <sits> sunshine: ah yes
[08:15] <sits> sunshine: but that is root of the LiveCD
[08:15] <rejden> stevenm, kernel modules?
[08:16] <stevenm> rejden, yes
[08:16] <sits> sunshine: (this is why it would have been easier to have guided you through the "broken" system)
[08:16] <sunshine> sits i've learn if i but sudo su -i into the terminal it changes from ubuntu@ubuntu to root @ubuntu
[08:17] <kisielk> rightc0ast: cool, any idea about KDE?
[08:17] <rightc0ast> no i dont know, sorry
[08:17] <sunshine> sits it said it in ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub
[08:17] <sits> sunshine: you are getting ahead of yourself
[08:17] <sunshine> sits it away of bypassin the live cd
[08:17] <rejden> stevenm, /lib/modules/`uname -r`/
[08:18] <aftertaf> kisielk, there is #kubuntu for kde specific stuff
[08:18] <sunshine> sits i've learn alot since i've been on ubuntu but i dont know how to fix this
[08:18] <sits> sunshine: yes but I can't get you to X
[08:18] <sits> sunshine: I can probably tell you text commands to fix the error providing:
[08:18] <sits> sunshine: a) I know exactly what the error is
[08:18] <sunshine> sits the people has really help me
[08:18] <sits> sunshine: b) I can feed you commands and get a response back straight away
[08:18] <sunshine> sits well i wrote the whole error down
[08:19] <sits> sunshine: ooo ok
[08:19] <sits> sunshine: did you see my msg btw?
[08:19] <d03boy> whats the command to view the drives
[08:19] <d03boy> drive info
[08:19] <aftertaf> d03boy, you want to know what?
[08:19] <tr3vis> disk space usage?
[08:19] <aftertaf> df -h ?
[08:19] <d03boy> i want to see the physical drive orientiation
[08:19] <sunshine> sits what msg btw
[08:20] <nalioth> dooglus: install discus and use it. it's very neat
[08:20] <aftertaf> re nalioth :) you're up early
[08:20] <sunshine> nalioth yeah you've wakin
[08:20] <sits> sunshine: I tried to message you privately to avoid cluttering up the channel
[08:20] <GregAsche> thanks to whoever put in the legwork to make breezy work at a useable refresh rate in 1280x1024
[08:20] <sunshine> sits it hasnt work
[08:20] <sits> sunshine: ok we shall persist
[08:20] <sunshine> sits can u try again
[08:21] <sits> sunshine: no luck?
[08:21] <termin8tor> sits: MKDOSFS is simply to format a disk as fat16 isn't it?
[08:21] <sits> termin8tor: er dunno. I'd have to check the man page to see what it defaults to
[08:21] <sunshine> nalioth do u know how i can mount my system hdb1 back onto my computer im usin hoary livecd and my system is breezy
[08:21] <aftertaf> sits, what happned to sunshine's system??? and hats off for your efforts.   can he chroot?
[08:22] <sits> aftertaf: I wish I knew which of his partitions was /
[08:22] <sits> aftertaf: then I could tell sunshine to mount it and look inside /var/log/xorg.log (or whatever it is called)
[08:22] <aftertaf> sits, get him to reboot and look in the bios ;)
[08:22] <sits> aftertaf: then I'd be able to work out what X's error is (assuming it is X with the problem)
[08:23] <sunshine> nalioth the website info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub but i can use it
[08:23] <sits> aftertaf: ;)
[08:23] <nalioth> sunshine: standard mount command
[08:23] <aftertaf> sits, can he irc in console? or ssh?
[08:23] <sunshine> nalioth try it
[08:23] <sits> aftertaf: You reckon that's fair on someone new?
[08:23] <aftertaf> sunshine, you can no longer boot even to console?
[08:23] <sits> aftertaf: it's a lot to take in all in one go
[08:23] <aftertaf> sits, yeah i agree. but if only way to unbork .....? ;)
[08:24] <aftertaf> and he can write it all down and learn !!!
[08:24] <sits> aftertaf: since sunshine only has one system on the net and its the one that's broken I can't feed sunshine commands here while he fixes it...
[08:24] <sunshine> nalioth it givin me an error in dmesg can regonize my hdb1 unsupported features i've learn from last week this is because im usin a hoary livecd and my system is breezy
[08:24] <sunshine> sits im a girl
[08:24] <aftertaf> sunshine, ohhhhhhh ok ;)
[08:24] <HappyFool> sunshine: try 'mount -t ext3 -o ro /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1'
[08:24] <nalioth> sunshine: it shouldnt matter what system is on the box, the drive should mount
[08:25] <sits> aftertaf: the only thing to do is to find out which partition is / , mount it, poke about, edit a config file (that's gonna be fun), then unmount the system and let sunshine reboot
[08:25] <sits> sunshine: sorry I slipped
[08:25] <sunshine> happyfool i couldnt be gladder to see u
[08:25] <HappyFool> sunshine: after 'mkdir /media/hdb1', of course
[08:25] <HappyFool> sunshine: heh. ok ;)
[08:25] <nalioth> HappyFool to the rescue
[08:25] <nalioth> thanks, HappyFool
[08:25] <sunshine> nalioth yea
[08:25] <aftertaf> ro or rw?
[08:25] <sits> sunshine: I had meant to put sunshine again but messed up. Sorry about that
[08:25] <HappyFool> np
[08:25] <HappyFool> well, ro for testing
[08:26] <sits> sunshine: ok!
[08:26] <sits> sunshine: mount /dev/hdb1 /harddisk
[08:26] <sits> sunshine: any luck this time?
[08:27] <sunshine> happyfool u know what there is a new error come up now when i log on x session error
[08:27] <antisocialboris> i  need help with apt-get, it isnt working
[08:27] <sunshine> happy fool it mount it
[08:28] <Seveas> Antioch, a bit more info would help...
[08:28] <HappyFool> sunshine: ok
[08:28] <rightc0ast> sunshine, perhaps you could use irssi to irc in console? this guide my friend wrote makes it easier on a newbie.
[08:28] <rightc0ast> http://metawire.org/~cfh/irssi.txt
[08:28] <Seveas> antisocialboris*
[08:28] <HappyFool> sunshine: i guess i should ask what the actual problem is
[08:28] <LaptopZZ> rightc0ast: thats nice guide
[08:28] <antisocialboris> when i try to apt-get update loads of stuff fails to connect
[08:29] <rightc0ast> yeah, hes a good guy
[08:29] <sunshine> happyfool well when i try to log in it give me a x session error so it would not let me access my system now im tryin to recover my system
[08:29] <HappyFool> sunshine: ok
[08:29] <sits> sunshine: can you paste a bit of the erorr?
[08:29] <HappyFool> sunshine: and now you're running from the live cd ?
[08:30] <antisocialboris> can anyone help me?
[08:30] <newbie_at_linux> maybe
[08:30] <mrx___> antisocialboris: had the same problem using us.archive, changed to uk.archive, live is good again.  change us.archive to uk.archive in /etc/apt/sources.list then do a apt-get update
[08:30] <yancheng> may i noe is hoary-extra in mirrormax still valid? this is because i experienced this site down for few days.
[08:31] <antisocialboris> what am i changing to uk.archive sources.list?
[08:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell yancheng about mirrormax
[08:31] <sunshine> sits /etc/gdm/presession/default: registering your session with wtmp and utmp
[08:31] <nalioth> antisocialboris: every URL that starts with us.  in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:31] <antisocialboris> ok, sorry didnt read whole thing
[08:31] <mrx___> antisocialboris: every uncommented line that says us.archive in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:32] <moquist> I'm scripting an apt-get install command, and instead of being asked interactively about configuration of the specified packages, I want to specify that stuff in the script.  Where should I be looking to figure out how to do that?
[08:32] <canindya> I am having both apache and apache2 in ubuntu, how I can make sure only apache2 is started?
[08:32] <LaptopZZ> apt-get remove apache
[08:32] <Seveas> moquist, preseed it to debconf....
[08:32] <moquist> canindya: also, man update-rc.d
[08:32] <mrx___> antisocialboris: it used to be listed in this chan /topic yesterday.  i'm clueless where mirror status is reported
[08:32] <Seveas> no need for scripting
[08:32] <Cim2> darn cant even install the whole thing... darn
[08:32] <LaptopZZ> or rm /etc/rc2.d/ <-- the apache loader
[08:32] <canindya> thanks moquis,LaptopZZ
[08:33] <antisocialboris> where does it say us?
[08:33] <sunshine> happyfool yea it the same as last week i cant mount because my system is breezy and the livcd is hoary now i've writin down all we did last week but i dont know how we got aroud that prob
[08:33] <johndilley> IIRC it's httpd for apache 1 and apache2 for apache 2
[08:33] <HappyFool> sunshine: using '-t ext3'  -- that tells mount the partition is ext3 type
[08:33] <kinkoblast> Hi. My friend installed Ubuntu and then Kubuntu-Desktop, now he is trying to set it up to start KDE instead of GNOME. Is this posable, and if so, how?
[08:34] <sits> HappyFool: no!
[08:34] <sits> HappyFool: that shouldn't be necessary if the partition is ok...
[08:34] <HappyFool> sits: it doesn't?
[08:34] <sunshine> happyfool sits i've mounted hdb1 onto /meda/hdb1
[08:34] <Cim2> somebody help me please with the installation... what is the easiest way?
[08:34] <yi> hi, is there a meta package for all the development stuff?
[08:34] <j-linux> I love Ubuntu but it's starting to give me a lot of problems.  Now Apache is started, but I can't use localhost to locally test my php.
[08:34] <HappyFool> sits: well, it worked last week *shrug*
[08:34] <yi> i.e. autotools, glibc etc
[08:34] <sits> HappyFool: as in the type shouldn't be necessary
[08:34] <kinkoblast> Hi. My friend installed Ubuntu and then Kubuntu-Desktop, now he is trying to set it up to start KDE instead of GNOME. Is this posable, and if so, how?
[08:34] <aftertaf> yi build-essential
[08:34] <aftertaf> ?
[08:34] <chavo> yi, build-essential
[08:34] <antisocialboris> things just say http://archive should i change it to uk.archive?
[08:34] <j-linux> kinkoblast: at login, there is an option for session.  Change it there.
[08:35] <trinitrogen> Anybody have any experience with the WPA Supplicant.conf file?
[08:35] <graig> how do i format my usb fat formatted iriver player?
[08:35] <sits> HappyFool: (it's often a good clue - if it can't auto detect it then something major is wrong) Anyway carry on!
[08:35] <HappyFool> sunshine: ok, first of all did you change anything just before all this happened?
[08:35] <mrx___> antisocialboris:  maybe yours doesn't say us.archive, maybe it says something else.  there's probably mutliple lines.  edit /etc/apt/sources to say this as an example:  deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted    then change the rest of them too, then apt-get update
[08:35] <j-linux> kinkoblast: change it to KDE and it will ask you if you want to change just for one session or make KDE default
[08:35] <sunshine> happyfool well...
[08:35] <kinkoblast> j-linux: OK it works
[08:35] <yi> chavo: thanks
[08:36] <antisocialboris> ok, ill change them all to uk.archive and see what happens
[08:36] <kemik> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ELMzXt95.html <-- can anyone tell me what's wrong?
[08:36] <yi> when can we expect breezy-backports?
[08:36] <j-linux> What are the permissions supposed to be on the /etc/hosts.deny file?
[08:36] <kinkoblast> j-linux: Thank
[08:36] <yi> i need the java-package so i can use eclipse
[08:36] <j-linux> kinkoblast: no problem
[08:36] <antisocialboris> should that include http://securite..?
[08:36] <yi> j-linux: um, you only want root to be able to read it
[08:36] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   i assume you're using breezy,  if not use whatever version of ubuntu your on for the second bit, aka breezy-update
[08:36] <HappyFool> j-linux: mine are 644
[08:36] <yi> j-linux: but most people have 644
[08:37] <j-linux> yi: apache is running but I cant go to http://localhost
[08:37] <sunshine> happyfool i was tryin to configure mythtv with the assist of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NovaTHowTo?highlight=%28mythtv%29 and it stated something about xhost but that did seem to do anything til today when i was tryin to log on and it said xsession error they are probably linked
[08:37] <j-linux> HappyFool: thanks, I'll try that.
[08:37] <sits> sunshine: did you do xhost + ?
[08:38] <j-linux> -rw-r--r--  This is 644, no?
[08:38] <HappyFool> j-linux: yip
[08:38] <robingazi> linux is killing me
[08:38] <HappyFool> sunshine: hmm. i'm not experienced enough with xhost to know
[08:38] <sits> HappyFool: don't worry I'll back you up there
[08:38] <robingazi> ubuntu rather
[08:38] <j-linux> I can't write to that file even though I am "sudo"
[08:38] <HappyFool> sunshine: i thought xhost was a 'per-login' setting, though
[08:38] <x0xA> hello, can someone please help me setup ATi drivers? i am getting about 400FPS average with glxgears and i have a 9600xt...Please PM me! :)
[08:38] <sunshine> sits happyfool it said on the website to sudo xhost +
[08:39] <sunshine> happyfool the error seem to deal with per login
[08:39] <sits> sunshine: that command allows "anyone" logged into your machine to pop stuff up on your display
[08:39] <sits> sunshine: and it goes away after you log out
[08:39] <intelikey> j-linux "sudo nano <file> "  ??
[08:39] <moquist> Seveas: I'm including an apt-get comnmand in a script that configures a bunch of other stuff after it installs the required packages.  The problem is that I'd really just prefer that the preinst and postinst scripts don't run.
[08:40] <j-linux> intelikey: sudo kate /etc/hosts.deny --It opens but won't write
[08:40] <sits> sunshine: that alone wouldn't have caused this problem unless you added it to a file
[08:40] <aftertaf> sunshine, can you remember what the xsession error was exactly?
[08:40] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, :)
[08:40] <Seveas> moquist, then you need to hack up the debs
[08:40] <sunshine> sits if that true then why has my /home/sunshine disappeared and i cant access the computer
[08:40] <moquist> Seveas: ewww. :(
[08:40] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: what output are you using?
[08:40] <HappyFool> sunshine: eek. /home/sunshine disappeared?
[08:40] <Seveas> or manually extract the data.tar.gz and overlay it on your filesystem (more eww)
[08:40] <moquist> yeah.  hmm.
[08:40] <sits> sunshine: you have a fine point there. Without seeing the error I can't say I know why
[08:41] <cocox> help plz im trying to set up my print "Epson Stylus-Photo 820" but ubuntu cant recognize my print
[08:41] <[A] ndy80> there is a strange problem in Ubuntu: I added an application to the Gnome panel, I choose "launch it in a terminal", when I start it I see this error in the terminal:  /dev/dsp appears to be a valid audio device, but I cannot
[08:41] <[A] ndy80>          open it.  Please ensure that no other applications are
[08:41] <[A] ndy80>          using the audio device (perhaps by trying ``lsof /dev/dsp''). I've no problems if I open a terminal and launch the application from there. Why there's this problem? How can I fix it?
[08:41] <moquist> Seveas: thx for your help.
[08:41] <sits> sunshine: if you mean "why can't I see /home/blah from the LiveCD"
[08:41] <cocox> help plz im trying to set up my print "Epson Stylus-Photo 820" but ubuntu cant recognize my print
[08:41] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here..
[08:41] <aftertaf> !tell [A] ndy80 about pastebin
[08:41] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, breezy system, audio should be default, audigy2 zs card.
[08:41] <HappyFool> sunshine: so 'ls /media/hdb1/home' doesn't list 'sunshine' ?
[08:41] <sunshine> aftertaf it said x session error /etc/gdm/presession /default: registering youre session with wtmp and utmp /etc/gdm/presession ":0" sunshine
[08:42] <sunshine> happy how do i check
[08:42] <cocox> help plz im trying to set up my print "Epson Stylus-Photo 820" but ubuntu cant recognize my print
[08:42] <sits> sunshine: type
[08:42] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: so you're using esound with gstreamer apps?
[08:42] <HappyFool> sunshine: run that command
[08:42] <newbie_at_linux> !tell aftertaf about pastebin
[08:42] <sits> sunshine: ls /media/hdb1/home
[08:42] <sits> sunshine: and tell HappyFool the result
[08:42] <kevman> !tell me about the repositories
[08:42] <aftertaf> newbie_at_linux, i know about pastebin thanks...
[08:42] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, yeah, and i'm experiencing out of sync in apps ranging from vlc to totem and tvtime
[08:42] <j-linux> I can't write to httpd.conf either.
[08:42] <sunshine> happyfool i put that in and it said mythtv...............#
[08:42] <antisocialboris> ok, i changed stuff to uk. but it still fails to connect to some security stuff, i tried uk.security.. but it couldnt resolve that any ideas?
[08:43] <HappyFool> sunshine: that's all?
[08:43] <aftertaf> HappyFool, eek indeed then!
[08:43] <sunshine> happyfool that all............
[08:43] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: your zs supports hardware multiopen; you don't need to use esd
[08:43] <budluva> antisocialboris there is no security mirror
[08:43] <sits> HappyFool: where's the rest of it?!
[08:43] <cocox> help plz im trying to set up my print "Epson Stylus-Photo 820" but ubuntu cant recognize my print
[08:43] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, so how should I configure it?
[08:43] <bslima> hwo do i update a .deb file ?
[08:43] <sunshine> happyfool is it meant to be alot more
[08:43] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: change everything to use alsa[sink] 
[08:43] <budluva> antisocialboris has to be security.ubuntu
[08:43] <bslima> like i have the .deb file newer than the installed in my ubuntu how do i updated?
[08:43] <aftertaf> sunshine, you should have a 'sunshine' folder too, if that was your login
[08:44] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   it's http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu blah blah
[08:44] <cocox> help plz im trying to set up my print "Epson Stylus-Photo 820" but ubuntu cant recognize my print
[08:44] <HappyFool> sunshine: well, it looks like your home directory has gone missing
[08:44] <sits> HappyFool: are you sure you've got the right partition?
[08:44] <antisocialboris> ok
[08:44] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink> alsasink
[08:44] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, where are the options administration > sound doesn't list them...
[08:44] <sunshine> happyfool i know
[08:44] <budluva> antisocialboris uk.archive works fine
[08:44] <HappyFool> sits: not a clue ;)
[08:44] <budluva> or it should
[08:44] <antisocialboris> ill let it finish what its up to and see whats working then
[08:44] <aftertaf> sudo bslima, dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[08:44] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, ok, cool
[08:44] <cocox> help plz im trying to set up my print "Epson Stylus-Photo 820" but ubuntu cant recognize my print
[08:44] <HappyFool> sunshine: how about 'ls /media/hdb1/home/mythtv' ?
[08:44] <mrx___> budluva, it does, just checked again :)
[08:44] <HappyFool> sunshine: (you know not to paste here, i presume)
[08:44] <sunshine> happyfool they should keep me away from compurter
[08:44] <HappyFool> sunshine: does that look like your old home directory?
[08:44] <kevman> Isn't there a place where a sources.list with Universe and Multiverse is posted?
[08:44] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: Also, for the apps that aren't gstreamer-aware, choose the ALSA output
[08:44] <budluva> cocox your not going to get help be repeating every 30 seconds
[08:44] <sunshine> happy fool i remember
[08:45] <HappyFool> you remember?
[08:45] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: for instance, you'll need to install vlc-plugin-alsa for vlc
[08:45] <budluva> cocox why dont you search for Epson on ubuntuforums?
[08:45] <cocox> but plz somebody help me
[08:45] <kemik> kevman:  universe is in the default sources.list , just uncomment the line
[08:45] <antisocialboris> i've had one connection fail so far, due to it timing out apparently
[08:45] <j-linux> Can httpd.conf contain the following:  Order Deny, Allow?
[08:45] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, default sink > alsa works - but default source alsa doesn't work.
[08:45] <kemik> kevman:  and add "multiverse" on the same line and voila, you got multiverse
[08:45] <cocox> i allready look
[08:45] <kevman> Yeah, but I think I bunged the whole thing up...
[08:45] <x0xA> how to I enable my Mouse4 and Mouse5 buttons? someone help?
[08:45] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   timeout is better than can't stat
[08:45] <newbie_at_linux> Does anyone have problems with compiling source tarballs on Ubuntu?
[08:45] <kemik> !sources
[08:45] <ubotu> I heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[08:46] <HappyFool> newbie_at_linux: make sure you install 'build-essential'
[08:46] <aftertaf> newbie_at_linux, install build-essential first....
[08:46] <sunshine> happyfool nothin happen when i added mythtv to the end
[08:46] <sits> it's like watching a soap. There's a big cliff hanger
[08:46] <HappyFool> newbie_at_linux: and whatever support libs you need for the app
[08:46] <antisocialboris> yeah
[08:46] <HappyFool> sunshine: so nothing is listed ?
[08:46] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: use osssource for Default Audio Source
[08:46] <aftertaf> HappyFool, and its the right disk, there is mythtv....
[08:46] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, putting default source to esd and pressing test causes a crash
[08:46] <antisocialboris> is it so slow cos loads of people are moving over to breezy atm?
[08:47] <sunshine> happyfool yup that what im sayin
[08:47] <HappyFool> sunshine: do you remember erasing or moving your home dir?
[08:47] <HiddenWolf> antisocialboris, demand for breezy is /massive/
[08:47] <[wiebel] _> Hi
[08:47] <antisocialboris> yeah, thats why im not gonna upgrade atm
[08:47] <[wiebel] _> Openoffice 2 is released, are there any ubuntu packages allready?
[08:47] <newbie_at_linux> HappyFool aftertaf: I have glib and glib-dev installed and build essential http://pastebin.com/400555
[08:47] <HiddenWolf> [wiebel] _, no, we're between development at the moment. WIll be next week.
[08:47] <aftertaf> newbie_at_linux, you're istalling what?
[08:47] <mrx___> thanks ubotu
[08:47] <x0xA> how to I enable my Mouse4 and Mouse5 buttons? someone help?
[08:47] <intelikey> did anyone tell you to do "rm -rf <blah> "   ????
[08:47] <sits> aftertaf: does breezy default to putting home on its own partition?
[08:48] <HappyFool> HiddenWolf: in backports or 'normal' repos ?
[08:48] <newbie_at_linux> phonegaim with sip
[08:48] <budluva> sits no you have to define /home 's mount point
[08:48] <newbie_at_linux> aftertaf phonegaim with sip
[08:48] <sits> budluva: thanks
[08:48] <vicks> !tell me about backports
[08:48] <HiddenWolf> HappyFool, normal repro's, dapper, but it should be backported...
[08:48] <HappyFool> sits: i think the default is 1 ext3 and 1 swap (except maybe for lvm)
[08:48] <budluva> sits i think by default if you dont define it, /home is on same partition as /
[08:48] <sunshine> happyfool it told me to download two files hold on let me go to ubuntu forum find the thread ...
[08:48] <jjarvenp> hi, how can i boot my mac mini with the kubuntu live CD?
[08:48] <Dropnode> got a few questions about a new install
[08:48] <HappyFool> HiddenWolf: cool, thank you
[08:48] <sits> budluva: that figures
[08:48] <aftertaf> newbie_at_linux, ok. aptget libsilc and libsilc-dev for one.
[08:49] <budluva> sits common knowledge :P
[08:49] <Dropnode> are there any packages i need to install to get any better functionality?
[08:49] <antisocialboris> balls, just got a load of 113 No route to hosts
[08:49] <sits> HappyFool: this is bad. We can only hope that find turns up something
[08:49] <aftertaf> and newbie_at_linux   did you install glib 2.8 from source? if so where to?
[08:49] <HappyFool> sits: good idea, i didn't think of that
[08:49] <sits> budluva: always been a boot / swap person myself
[08:49] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, still out of sync on tvtime
[08:49] <HappyFool> sits: or check for other partitions
[08:49] <antisocialboris> what's going on?
[08:50] <intelikey> sits i have never told ub install to erace entire disk to see how many partitions it made, that is a very valed question you asked........ ^
[08:50] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: is tvtime using oss, alsa, esd, ...?
[08:50] <sits> HappyFool: from what you are saying it seems unlikely : ( but yes - you are of course right
[08:50] <newbie_at_linux> aftertaf: no, libglib2.0-0_2.6.4-1_i386.deb
[08:50] <HiddenWolf> CrakerJak, on totem too...
[08:50] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   something is melting, network, servers, ...
[08:50] <budluva> sits hrmm ive always put /home on a separate partition myself :P
[08:50] <newbie_at_linux> aftertaf: and libglib2.0-dev_2.6.4-1_i386.deb
[08:50] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, or is a reboot needed?
[08:50] <antisocialboris> im on a uni network
[08:50] <Dropnode> or repositories i should add?
[08:50] <sits> budluva: well yes, *I* do that too when I'm not NFS mounting it :P
[08:50] <antisocialboris> should i get hold of the network admin?
[08:51] <CrakerJak> HiddenWolf, what do u mean?
[08:51] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   might not be your network
[08:51] <[wiebel] _> HiddenWolf: ok, thanks ;)
[08:51] <intelikey> sits a "cat /etc/fstab " should answer that on a running system though.....
[08:51] <HiddenWolf> CrakerJak, tabbing error
[08:51] <aftertaf> newbie_at_linux, weird the 2.8 thing then...   run   sudo ldconfig.
[08:51] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, totem is also not synced.
[08:51] <DShepherd> deb
[08:51] <antisocialboris> it'd make sense since other people said its working fine
[08:51] <kemik> !ntfs
[08:51] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:51] <sits> intelikey: does the live CD try and mount everything it can?
[08:51] <jrattner1> desklets are cool
[08:51] <DShepherd> !deb
[08:51] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, DShepherd
[08:51] <intelikey> sits  yeah
[08:52] <DShepherd> !Firefox
[08:52] <ubotu> DShepherd: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:52] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   you getting to other places on the net ok?
[08:52] <sits> intelikey: things are so much simpler than in 1999
[08:52] <HappyFool> newbie_at_linux: what ubuntu are you running?
[08:52] <antisocialboris> yeah
[08:52] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: are you using totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[08:52] <antisocialboris> apt-get seems to be my only problem
[08:52] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, gstreamer
[08:52] <budluva> antisocialboris whats the problem?
[08:52] <budluva> cant resolve?
[08:52] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: how does totem-xine perform in comparison?
[08:52] <antisocialboris> when i try to update i get lots of:
[08:52] <horza> how can i install fluxbox with 5.10 ?
[08:53] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, one sec
[08:53] <newbie_at_linux> HappyFool: Hoary 5.04
[08:53] <intelikey> sits make that a "cat <ub_root>/etc/fstab "
[08:53] <crimsun> horza: enable universe and use Synaptic to install it
[08:53] <budluva> horza apt-get install fluxbox fluxconf
[08:53] <TG__> could anyone tell me how i can stop gaim from starting with ubuntu?
[08:53] <jrattner1> Can you make the userlist in xchat, transparent?
[08:53] <Cim2> ok is there somebody who can help me with the installation?
[08:53] <crimsun> TG__: close it before you save the session (when you log out)
[08:53] <antisocialboris> Err http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release.gpg could not connect to uk.archiv.... no route to host
[08:53] <jrattner1> TG__, close it before you log out
[08:53] <budluva> antisocialboris try archive.ubuntu
[08:53] <horza> crimsun, i have enable universe
[08:54] <TG__> ah thx!
[08:54] <canindya> I am getting a very unusual problem,have apache2 running and php4 also installed,but when i am trying to run a php file with phpinfo() it fails to run, any pointers?
[08:54] <crimsun> horza: then you should be able to install it
[08:54] <budluva> antisocialboris get rid of your uk.
[08:54] <TG__> and can i also do that with the session editor tool?
[08:54] <antisocialboris> thats what it was before, wasnt working then wither
[08:54] <DShepherd> !nfs
[08:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[08:54] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, wierd, I had -xine installed, it lags more than gstreamer
[08:54] <aftertaf> HappyFool, cant she sudo - to root, or at least console login? or adduser in live cd and copy over to HD ?
[08:54] <sits> HappyFool: so what do you suggest next for sunshine ?
[08:54] <antisocialboris> someone suggested chaning it to uk.
[08:54] <budluva> canindya is php configured properly?
[08:54] <Catdaemon`> What packages do i need to get GCC to compile?
[08:54] <budluva> antisocialboris does it work without the .uk though?
[08:54] <antisocialboris> no
[08:54] <aftertaf> Catdaemon`, build-essential
[08:54] <budluva> archive.ubuntu.com doesnt work for you?
[08:55] <crimsun> Catdaemon`: to compile GCC itself, or to compile general source code?
[08:55] <canindya> budluva: I didnt get you? what all the things/files I need check?
[08:55] <antisocialboris> it had exactly the same errors with or without uk
[08:55] <Catdaemon`> aftertaf: thanks ill try that
[08:55] <mrx___> budluva, i had problems with archives.ubuntu.com yesterday.  thinking we just need more mirrors with fatter pipes.  kindof a good problem to have
[08:55] <HappyFool> aftertaf, sits: adduser in recovery mode sounds like a good idea
[08:55] <canindya> I follwed the php-guide from http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installapachehttpserver
[08:55] <aftertaf> :)
[08:55] <budluva> canindya well apache/php4 have to be configured correctly, it just doesnt work out of the box
[08:55] <HappyFool> or maybe even chroot'ed from this live-cd boot
[08:55] <aftertaf> chw00t
[08:55] <antisocialboris> ive been having this problem for at least a weke
[08:55] <sits> HappyFool: mmm
[08:55] <antisocialboris> week even
[08:55] <Catdaemon`> ok thanks that seems to have worked
[08:56] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   me too
[08:56] <canindya> budluva: any site/link?
[08:56] <budluva> canindya been awhile since i ran apache/php but i think /etc/php4/ should have a config file, read through it, and do the same with /etc/apache/ there should be a config file in there aswell
[08:56] <budluva> canindya lemme find a good apache/php4 howto for you
[08:56] <antisocialboris> i also cant connect to security.ubuntu
[08:56] <canindya> budluva: ok I am looking in it
[08:56] <canindya> budluva: thanks
[08:56] <antisocialboris> have you fixed the problem mrx?
[08:56] <GregAsche> can alien convert a bin to a deb?
[08:56] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   yes by switching to uk mirrors except for security
[08:56] <jrattner1> How do you resume from a suspend in gnome?
[08:56] <budluva> canindya oh, did you restart apache yet?
[08:57] <sunshine> happyfool ok this website i was also usin http://www.slash32.com/ubuntu-myth.html
[08:57] <antisocialboris> did you have the same error as me?
[08:57] <canindya> budluva : yep
[08:57] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   can you ping those machines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:57] <jrattner1> If i hibernate in gnome, how do i resume after?
[08:57] <aftertaf> newbie_at_linux, you pasted your ld.so.conf, did you also mofidy your /etc/profile?
[08:57] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   i had can't stat errors
[08:57] <antisocialboris> do i need to be root to ping?
[08:57] <budluva> canindya and it wont open via http://www.blah.com/blah.php?
[08:57] <Catdaemon`> jrattner1: you turn it on again like in windows
[08:57] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, what could cause this lag?
[08:57] <jrattner1> Catdaemon`, how do you do that
[08:57] <sunshine> happyfool it was around this stage the computer went funny cd /usr/src
[08:57] <jrattner1> just the power button?
[08:57] <workingmansdead> can any help with converting SHN to mp3?
[08:57] <canindya> budluva : nope, it opens save as dialog!
[08:57] <Catdaemon`> jrattner1: hybernate shuts down the computer and when you reboot it it loads what it was doing before
[08:57] <HappyFool> newbie_at_linux: hoary seems to come with glib 2.6.3 -- did you install your own glib ?
[08:57] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   nope, just ping archive.ubuntu.com or uk.archive.ubuntu.com to see if you have basic connectivity to them
[08:58] <HappyFool> sunshine: ok, stand-by
[08:58] <sunshine> happyfool mv ~[enter-your-username-here] /ivtv-0.2.0-rce1.tgz ./ mv ~[enter-your-username-here] /pvr48wdm_1.8.22037.exe ./
[08:58] <budluva> canindya k, seems like this thread is about the same problem your having....http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79106&highlight=apache
[08:58] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: my guess is pci latency issues, which you might be able to adjust in the bios
[08:58] <jrattner1> Catdaemon`, ahh
[08:58] <budluva> canindya ill keep looking
[08:58] <Catdaemon`> jrattner1: so yes the power button
[08:58] <HappyFool> sunshine: ah
[08:58] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: I presume your cpu is fairly beefy?
[08:58] <antisocialboris> ok, its doing it atm
[08:58] <aftertaf> HappyFool, sunshine in root????
[08:58] <robingazi> realplayer in my ubuntu is saying "failed to execute child process realplay" what do i do?
[08:58] <HappyFool> sunshine: what does 'ls /usr/src' say ? (don't paste here -- if it's lots, put it on the pastebin)
[08:59] <HappyFool> aftertaf: in /usr/src, i think
[08:59] <sunshine> happyfool home might have gon in cd wsr/scr
[08:59] <antisocialboris> how long should it take, ive got loads of lines so far
[08:59] <HappyFool> sunshine: hopefully
[08:59] <aftertaf> sunshine, hehe....i leave the honours to you guys
[08:59] <aftertaf> sits, :)
[08:59] <robingazi> :S
[08:59] <sunshine> happyfool it say rpm
[08:59] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, 3500+ cpu, should do.
[08:59] <richardc> is there a backports repository for breezy?
[08:59] <HappyFool> sunshine: that's it ?
[08:59] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: yeah, that seems fine
[09:00] <robingazi> haha i got 350mhz
[09:00] <aftertaf> look in /
[09:00] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   so you can reach the servers with basic connectivity, that rules out a lot, like firewalls and routing.  my guess is the the network between you and the archives are hammered, or the archive servers are hammered
[09:00] <crimsun> richardc: no, because dapper isn't open
[09:00] <sunshine> happyfool yea
[09:00] <HappyFool> sunshine: i think we should try sits's suggestion
[09:00] <antisocialboris> is there anything i can do?
[09:00] <richardc> crimsun: is it safe to use hoary-backports for now?
[09:00] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: check your pci latency for the slot that the audigy occupies
[09:00] <B_166-ER-X> does any1 knows why my usplash ..is not working ??
[09:00] <budluva> canindya http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41687
[09:00] <sorush20> guys is there an equivalent to flash for linux?
[09:00] <aftertaf> tried a find /media/hdb | grep sunshine ?
[09:00] <crimsun> richardc: don't use hoary-backports; breezy has been out for over a week
[09:00] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, what kind of bios option would that be? :(
[09:00] <canindya> budluva : thanks, I am looking in them
[09:01] <richardc> crimsun: so what shoud i use?
[09:01] <budluva> B_166-ER-X check forums, there is a howto on fixing it
[09:01] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: it'd be in advanced bios options
[09:01] <sunshine> sits what ur suggestion
[09:01] <aftertaf> !tell sorush20 about flash
[09:01] <horza> crimsun, fluxbox: Depends: libimlib2 but it is not installable
[09:01] <crimsun> richardc: just the normal breezy repositories
[09:01] <budluva> B_166-ER-X http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76309&highlight=fixed+usplash
[09:01] <HappyFool> sunshine: run 'find /media/hdb1 -type d -name sunshine'
[09:01] <sunshine> aftertaf how do i find it
[09:01] <richardc> but i want packages from backports
[09:01] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[09:01] <crimsun> richardc: ...why? They're OLDER than what are in Breezy.
[09:01] <sorush20> aftertaf: is there an alternative to flash..
[09:01] <antisocialboris> is there anything i can do or should i just keep trying at different times?
[09:01] <wolden> Could anyone help me with me multimedia configuration? I m on hoary and already installed all the packages from the starter guide, but totem gives me nothing but funny colored pixels and the media player firefox plugin gets frozen after receiving some data
[09:02] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, and how do I figure out what is good and what is bad latency? :)
[09:02] <robingazi> i need help can anyone help me?
[09:02] <HappyFool> sunshine: that will take a little while to run
[09:02] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: consult the awesome oracle of Google
[09:02] <budluva> robingazi just ask
[09:02] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   my guess is you're not broken, don't try to fix it, just try again later
[09:02] <newbie_at_linux> aftertaf: I am not sure if this is right. http://pastebin.com/401182
[09:02] <robingazi> realplayer in my ubuntu is saying "failed to execute child process realplay" what do i do?
[09:02] <Welly> hey all! how do i downgrade from php5 to php4? :)
[09:02] <crimsun> horza: /join #flood, and paste the output from apt-cache policy libimlib2
[09:02] <HappyFool> sunshine: actually, it might be better to search for a file you know is in your home dir, but we'll try that after 'find' is done
[09:02] <antisocialboris> ok, so its prob just all the breezy upgrades screwing me over?
[09:02] <robingazi> im new to linux
[09:03] <larytet> hi, i am trying to upgrade to breezy and reboot failed with "starting deferred execution scheduler [fail] " how can i figure out what happened thanks
[09:03] <aftertaf> sunshine, find /media/[yourdisk]  | grep sunshine
[09:03] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   prolly
[09:03] <sunshine> happyfool it say /media/hdb1/var/run/sudo/sunshine now it add other stuff
[09:03] <newbie_at_linux> HappyFool: Yes, I tried to reinstall glib after getting that error message because I could not think of anything else to do.
[09:03] <antisocialboris> balls, i want to apt-get something to play with this weekend
[09:03] <satafterh> hello people, i need to ask a stupid question that I should know the answer to lol, how do i change the color depth
[09:03] <mirak> when I duplicate a system, should I also copy /dev ?
[09:03] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   yup, i hear you
[09:04] <aftertaf> newbie_at_linux, youd need to add to path if glib is elsewhere.. other than that i dont know...
[09:04] <sunshine> happyfool ok it done now this is what it say /media/hdb1/var/run/sudo/sunshine
[09:04] <budluva> mirak same hardware on both systems?
[09:04] <antisocialboris> will trying at an antisocial hour help?
[09:04] <sunshine> happyfool /media/hdb1/usr/src/sunshine
[09:04] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   couldn't hurt
[09:04] <mirak> budluva: in fact I want to change the filesystem so it will be the same computer
[09:04] <HappyFool> sunshine: a-ha
[09:04] <HappyFool> sunshine: ah-ha, even
[09:04] <sunshine> happyfool /media/hdb1/usr/src/sunshine/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/sunshine
[09:04] <robingazi> mirak, i installed realplayer but its now saying
[09:04] <antisocialboris> apart from the fact i ned to get up at early
[09:04] <HappyFool> sunshine: ok, that's enough
[09:04] <mirak> robingazi: what ?
[09:04] <sunshine> happyfool is it hidin in src
[09:04] <robingazi> "failed to execute child process realplay"
[09:04] <mrx___> antisocialboris:   buy everyone using ubuntu a beer, then quickly apt-get :)
[09:05] <HappyFool> sunshine: i think your home is in /usr/src
[09:05] <mirak> robingazi: I don't use it dont know
[09:05] <sunshine> happyfool yea
[09:05] <robingazi> o :S
[09:05] <GregAsche> what's just regular java that I can install on ubuntu
[09:05] <sunshine> happyfool how do we get it out...
[09:05] <budluva> mirak no clue what exactly your trying to do, but i would say that if both systems are identical i dont see why copying /dev wouldnt work
[09:05] <larytet> how do i debug "starting deferred execution scheduler [fail] "  ? can i step-by-step boot process ? can it be one of the initialization shells ?
[09:05] <HappyFool> sunshine: let's try to move it back to home. You are going to have to be quite careful what you type though
[09:05] <antisocialboris> but the uk.archive should work better than archive?
[09:05] <HappyFool> sunshine: first, tell me what 'mount|grep /dev/hdb1' says
[09:05] <sunshine> happyfool let me get my notepad
[09:05] <mrx___> antisocialboris:  it does for me, but i think others have different experiences
[09:05] <aftertaf> mv .........
[09:05] <budluva> antisocialboris technically yes, if your in the uk
[09:05] <mirak> budluva: don't know if it's recreated at each boot
[09:06] <themot> if u r a vmware fan, i ran across this today,  at the bottom of the page under "other virtual machines" is a link to a "browser appliance"... the browser appliance is actually a somewhat stripped down ubuntu with gnome and a few internet apps.  The same page also has a new "vmware player" app that is free (as in beer) ..cool stuff, definetely worth checking out
[09:06] <budluva> mirak ya, i have no clue
[09:06] <intelikey> GregAsche "apt-cache search java "
[09:06] <GregAsche> intelikey: there is like a million
[09:06] <GregAsche> which one do I need?
[09:06] <antisocialboris> cool, thanks for the help, whever ive brought it up before ive been ignored
[09:06] <mrx___> antisocialboris:  wished i had free bw, a fat pipe, and a big server with hw raid to mirror with
[09:06] <TG__> i installed qtconfig and polymer, but when i add /usr/plugins  to the library paths in qtconfig, it doesn't show up in the dropdown list... could anyone help me please?
[09:06] <intelikey> i don't do java.    i don't know.
[09:06] <themot> anyway, i thought the fact that ubuntu is used for the "browser appliance" is cool
[09:06] <themot> yhere is the link
[09:06] <foampeace> hi
[09:06] <themot> http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/vm/
[09:07] <foampeace> is there any internet speed test tools?
[09:07] <HappyFool> sunshine: let me know when you're ready
[09:07] <budluva> foampeace dslreports.com
[09:07] <budluva> foampeace broadbandreports.com
[09:07] <x0xA> can someone help me setup Cedega?
[09:07] <crimsun> horza: you don't have the main repository enabled.
[09:07] <foampeace> budluva: i do that...just want to try software
[09:07] <sunshine> happyfool it say /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type ext3 (ro)
[09:07] <horza> crimsun, il check
[09:08] <budluva> foampeace well theres ftp? :P
[09:08] <HappyFool> sunshine: ok, we need to remount /dev/hdb1 read-write
[09:08] <foampeace> budluva: just something will show stats
[09:08] <aftertaf> night all :)
[09:08] <budluva> foampeace ftp does that :P
[09:08] <HappyFool> sunshine: 'mount -o remount -o rw /dev/hdb1'
[09:08] <budluva> foampeace what do you need to know?
[09:08] <HappyFool> chrs aftertaf
[09:08] <sunshine> happyfool i think i got that in my notepad from last week let me check
[09:08] <budluva> foampeace just general up/down speeds?
[09:09] <HappyFool> sunshine: yeah, i think we did something similar
[09:09] <robingazi> what should be the chmod for any bin file?
[09:09] <foampeace> budluva: just want to know about speed test tools
[09:09] <budluva> foampeace google is your friend :P
[09:09] <HappyFool> robingazi: probably 'chmod a+x filename.bin' is what you want
[09:09] <sunshine> happyfool it done
[09:09] <budluva> foampeace im not aware of any software speed test tools
[09:09] <robingazi> thanks
[09:09] <robingazi> :D
[09:10] <HappyFool> sunshine: ok, this is the bit where you need to be careful ;)
[09:10] <horza> crimsun, i made it now, removed all the # in source
[09:10] <budluva> foampeace im sure there some network tools in the repos though
[09:10] <sunshine> happyfool ok
[09:10] <foampeace> budluva: i understand what your saying and yes google is my friend however i was just wondering if there was a tool that could test
[09:10] <Dropnode> I installed gcc off of the package manager and it still reports there's no acceptable compiler found in $PATH
[09:10] <Dropnode> help? lol
[09:10] <HappyFool> sunshine: stand-by
[09:10] <sunshine> happyfool i got my notepad
[09:11] <budluva> Dropnode gcc what? 3.4?
[09:11] <HappyFool> sunshine: ok, the command is   'mv /media/hdb1/usr/src/sunshine /media/hdb1/home'
[09:11] <Dropnode> uhhhh i beleive i just grabbed 3.3
[09:11] <Dropnode> lemme take a peek
[09:11] <HappyFool> Dropnode: install the 'build-essential' package
[09:11] <HappyFool> Dropnode: that includes make and libc6-dev
[09:12] <canindya> budluva : its solved now :)
[09:12] <budluva> canindya good :P
[09:12] <intelikey> cli howto,  search for avalable packages by text in their descriptions ?
[09:12] <Dropnode> budluva: doing so now.
[09:12] <sunshine> happyfool ok i've writed it down ill try it now
[09:12] <Dropnode> i mean HappyFool
[09:12] <ompaul> canindya
[09:12] <Dropnode> sorry
[09:12] <canindya> budluva : it seems I had both apache and apache2 and php-mod-apache was having problem for apache2
[09:12] <canindya> ompaul: yes
[09:12] <Dropnode> kinda slow, lol
[09:13] <Dropnode> 366nhz laptop
[09:13] <budluva> canindya you had both apache and apache2 installed?
[09:13] <budluva> Dropnode ouch :P
[09:13] <HappyFool> nanohertz?
[09:13] <Dropnode> HappyFool: done, reboot?
[09:13] <Dropnode> no, i'ts a decent 366
[09:13] <HappyFool> you gonna be waiting like millenia
[09:13] <budluva> Dropnode shouldnt have to
[09:13] <Dropnode> panasonics toughbook line
[09:13] <canindya> budluva : yes, I upgraded yesterday using apt-get
[09:13] <Dropnode> rugged as hell.
[09:13] <budluva> Dropnode reboot that is
[09:13] <HappyFool> Dropnode: no
[09:13] <ompaul> canindya,  I went to answer you - and then pressed enter instead of back space doh!
[09:13] <canindya> ompaul: heh
[09:13] <Dropnode> anyone have luck with kismet on 5.04 by chance?
[09:13] <sunshine> happyfool i think it done how do i check
[09:14] <foampeace> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html
[09:14] <HappyFool> sunshine: 'ls /media/hdb1/home'
[09:14] <yi> which runlevel is multiuser but no x?
[09:14] <Dropnode> there, now it's going.
[09:14] <HappyFool> sunshine: should be mythtv and sunshine listed
[09:14] <Dropnode> thx fellas
[09:14] <bluefrog-10> hi what commands do i need to use to know what encryption is used by ubuntu pls?
[09:14] <budluva> foampeace yeah, thats not via software
[09:14] <Dropnode> HappyFool: any other essentials i should look into?
[09:14] <HappyFool> yi: there isn't one. you can kill x with 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[09:14] <sunshine> happyfool u save me again
[09:14] <budluva> foampeace thats the same test youll get at broadbandreports :P
[09:14] <Dropnode> crap.
[09:14] <sunshine> happyfool yea
[09:14] <Dropnode> configure: error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses
[09:14] <Dropnode> why me...
[09:15] <budluva> Dropnode install it then?
[09:15] <HappyFool> sunshine: cool
[09:15] <Dropnode> yeah
[09:15] <Dropnode> lol
[09:15] <yi> HappyFool: that's absolutely ridiculous
[09:15] <Dropnode> going to
[09:15] <HappyFool> sunshine: if you boot now it should work
[09:15] <budluva> :P
[09:15] <sunshine> happyfool aahhhhhh
[09:15] <crimsun> Dropnode: install libncurses5-dev
[09:15] <HappyFool> yi: it is? *shrug*
[09:15] <sorush20> you can have flash for linux just go to f4l, on google:-P
[09:15] <yi> yes, it is
[09:15] <yi> no other distribution forces you to start with a display manager
[09:15] <HappyFool> Dropnode: check out developer resources on the wiki
[09:15] <sunshine> sits thanks for tryin
[09:15] <yi> i suppose you can remove gdm
[09:15] <yi> but still
[09:16] <Dropnode> this is so different than my regular... suse
[09:16] <Dropnode> in a good way though
[09:16] <HappyFool> Dropnode: oh, and 'apt-get build-dep <foo>' is quite cool too -- installs all the dev libs needed for a package
[09:16] <MaTaKs> how can i remove installed drivers?
[09:16] <Dropnode> i'll make note of that.
[09:16] <Dropnode> thx
[09:16] <bluefrog-10> Is there a command to know what encryption is used by ubuntu pls?
[09:16] <Puky> Hi all!
[09:17] <Dropnode> just trying to get some wireless tools on here for now though, pretty much the role of this laptop anymore.
[09:17] <HappyFool> Dropnode: oh, and kismet is in the universe repository; you don't need to compile it unless you need the latest version
[09:17] <Dropnode> oh?
[09:17] <Dropnode> where would i locate that?
[09:17] <HappyFool> !tell Dropnode about repos
[09:17] <Dropnode> so sorry to sound lost... but i am on this distro for now.
[09:17] <HappyFool> Dropnode: the laptop will need to be connected to the internet
[09:17] <Dropnode> it is.
[09:17] <Dropnode> i'm on it now.
[09:18] <HappyFool> Dropnode: no worries ;) i was the same coming from fedora
[09:18] <Puky> I was wondering- I'm now in Breezy Live CD and I selected English as my language but if I choose my (croatian) keyboard than nothing happens I still have the same layout! Is it normal or is it changed in the Breezy install?
[09:18] <budluva> Puky your selecting for install
[09:18] <Dropnode> yikes.
[09:18] <HappyFool> *yawn* yay for dialup. 2 hours to download the kernel source
[09:18] <Dropnode> i run *all* that stuff for hoary?
[09:18] <Dropnode> al lthe deb lines?
[09:18] <Dropnode> all*
[09:19] <HappyFool> Dropnode: wherezat?
[09:19] <Dropnode> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:19] <budluva> Puky wont be croatian layout during the install process, but after install and you boot into your system it should be your selected layout
[09:19] <HappyFool> oh, the pastebin link
[09:19] <derchilligephil|> wich vnc client/server do u prefer ?!?
[09:19] <Dropnode> 5.04 is hoary correct?
[09:19] <HappyFool> Dropnode: yeah, the repo is divided into different sections, hence the many lines
[09:19] <HappyFool> Dropnode: yip
[09:19] <Dropnode> buuuut... do i run all of those?
[09:19] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, nothing looking like pci latency timings, only irq settings.
[09:19] <Dropnode> like every single deb line
[09:19] <HappyFool> Dropnode: yes. i do on breezy
[09:20] <HappyFool> Dropnode: you don't run them -- they go in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:20] <Puky> budluva unfortunately it ain't! :(
[09:20] <zodoz> hi all
[09:20] <HappyFool> Dropnode: read the wiki page too, it should explain the big idea
[09:20] <budluva> Puky what "aint"?
[09:20] <Dropnode> but to get them in i paste like... < deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted >  ?
[09:20] <HappyFool> Dropnode: this is similar to suse's 'software update' thing via yast (iirc)
[09:21] <Dropnode> i'll do that also
[09:21] <HappyFool> Dropnode: yes
[09:21] <Dropnode> ok
[09:21] <Dropnode> brb then,
[09:21] <Dropnode> thx again =)
[09:21] <mrx___> HappyFool, but better ;)
[09:21] <Dropnode> i'm gettin the hang of it  ithink
[09:21] <HappyFool> Dropnode: you can just download the file (click the 'download' link near the top)
[09:21] <HappyFool> mrx___: i'm trying to be neutral ;)
[09:21] <chris> Hey, I'm having a very difficult time with Breezy install, it froze at the end of the installer on setting up apt-get, after about 15 minutes I had to abort the installation, I went to expert mode, mounted the "/" filesystem, and went to the next step a bootloader, Grub failed on hda4, and on MBR, and Lilo failed on hda4 and MBR, I have a fresh Ubuntu install on hda4, but am unable to make it bootable with grub or lilo on the install cd, I we
[09:21] <chris> nt to a ash, shell and it didn't have any tools for it either, Any suggestions?
[09:21] <zodoz> I am very new (< 1 hour) and I would like to know if anyone could tell me what to do:  I have just installed ubuntu, but the x-windows will not start...  I am running the amd64 version of ubuntu...  any suggestions?
[09:21] <Puky> budluva if I select english on the install and then Croatian as layout I still have the US keyboard layout without my symbols what ever I change under keyboard settings (system-preferences...)
[09:21] <Dropnode> where's that go?
[09:21] <mrx___> HappyFool: i've troubleshot both, this is better
[09:21] <HappyFool> sunshine: working?
[09:22] <Dropnode> I'm fine pasting, lol gives me something to do.
[09:22] <workingmansdead> can anyone help with audio conversion, i was told to run SHN tool from konsole, but im not sure what to do next
[09:22] <sunshine> happyfool thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou very much..........
[09:22] <sunshine> sits taaaaa
[09:22] <termin8tor> I am in desperate need of some help with a problem, My DVD DRIVE failed a firmware flash upgrade in windows (windows in its benevolent glory crashed during the flash)  so now I am stuck without a DVD drive, and as my p.c doesn't have a floppy drive i cant boot dos to use the company provided dos based flash tools i can use to fix the problem.... anyone got any ideas on how i can install dos to a fat16 partition from within
[09:22] <termin8tor>  linux?
[09:22] <Belutz> anyone knows what happening in here http://belutz.pastebin.com/401205 ?
[09:22] <Dropnode> eh.
[09:22] <Dropnode> deb not found?
[09:22] <termin8tor> almost forgot, my windows install is busted and im in ubuntu
[09:22] <budluva> Puky maybe you dont have that layout installed? sorry im no good with anything but us layouts as im canadian and have never owned a non-us pc :P
[09:22] <HappyFool> sunshine: heh. cool ;)
[09:22] <zodoz> does anyone know which program to use for updating system programs while in console mode?
[09:23] <derchilligephil|> where can i set users for samba
[09:23] <budluva> zodoz apt-get update
[09:23] <zodoz> k, thx very much
[09:23] <budluva> zodoz then apt-get upgrade
[09:23] <HappyFool> Dropnode: you can't paste that in the shell -- it's not a command
[09:23] <zodoz> I'll be back if it does not work
[09:23] <Dropnode> oh.
[09:23] <sunshine> well does anyone know how to cofigure mythtv
[09:23] <HappyFool> Dropnode: it's the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:23] <Dropnode> ohhhhhhhh
[09:24] <Puky> budluva thanx, it ain't a big problem but i like the settings with english language and my layout but it doesn't matter.
[09:24] <Dropnode> sorry, i misunderstood (wasnt paying attention)
[09:24] <dianwei> Ok A question, I tried mounting some windows partitions as folders on my desktop (I have no idea if that sounds stupid or not) and I guess it won't let me read ntfs no matter what, so I want to delete them, but it won't let me because I don't have permission, I try to adjust the permissions but it says permission cannot be verified, what do I do?
[09:24] <budluva> dianwei how did you mount it?
[09:25] <dianwei> I clicked on system, administration, disks at the top bar.
[09:25] <intelikey> anyone know cli howto,  search for avalable packages by text in their descriptions ?
[09:25] <chris> dianwei: you used 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/(partition) /home/user/desktop -o umask=022' ?
[09:25] <budluva> dianwei well do you know what partition your windows is on?
[09:25] <queuetue> Does entering single-user mode require the root password?
[09:25] <chris> user replaced with your username
[09:25] <budluva> dianwei there ya go, listen to chris :P
[09:25] <sorush20> libqt3c102-mt is a dependency and I can't install it on my computer since libqt3-mt has replaced it how can I resolve this matter?
[09:25] <intelikey> queuetue no
[09:25] <wolden> my media player plugin for firefox gets stuck before starting playing
[09:26] <wolden> help!
[09:26] <wolden> lol
[09:26] <chris> err.. Desktop <- capital D as well, sorry there dianwei
[09:26] <dianwei> Chris, yes, cept it was a subdirectory on my desktop.
[09:26] <queuetue> intelikey: Not in ubuntu or not in any distro?  (RHEL in particular - getting the runaround from my hosting provider.)
[09:26] <chris> alright, so did it mount ok and you just want to open it?
[09:26] <irox> hi, what's the default / best package manger for ubuntbu
[09:26] <intelikey> queuetue not in any that i know of.
[09:26] <termin8tor> dianwei.... do i know you?
[09:26] <johndilley> irox: Synaptic
[09:26] <mrx___> sunshine: yes, for my particular setup. i don't think i could do it over irc.  need to be there and have a pizza, beers, and freedom to swear
[09:26] <syn-ack> irox: apt
[09:26] <dianwei> Either I want to be able to open it, or delete it, but I can't do either.
[09:26] <queuetue> intelikey: Ok, thanks.
[09:27] <ianu> hey, i tried running Introvision's Uplink 1.3 in the terminal (./uplink), but i get this error:
[09:27] <ianu> ./uplink.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:27] <chris> dianwei, did you use umask=022 ? otherwise it would have blocked those folders.
[09:27] <ianu> i even installed the lib6 package
[09:27] <ianu> any ideas?
[09:27] <intelikey> queuetue that is "by default"    it can be set up to ask for your password but is not by default.
[09:27] <dianwei> Chris, what can I do to use umask=022 ; I am a complete linux virgin.
[09:28] <chris> dianwei, you could 'sudo umount <folders>' on all of them, then 'sudo chown <username> <folders>' to return the empty folders to your user.
[09:28] <chris> dianwei: after the mount, use -o umask=022
[09:28] <ianu> please help me
[09:28] <chris> 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/(partition) /home/user/Desktop/folder -o umask=022'
[09:29] <mrx___> ianu: what's uplink do?
[09:29] <crimsun> game iirc
[09:29] <dianwei> how Do I copy and paste in linux? Is it ctrl-shift-c?
[09:29] <termin8tor> uplink is a video game =)
[09:29] <johndilley> dianwei: quick way is select with the mouse to copy then middle click to paste
[09:29] <budluva> dianwei copy ctrl c paste ctrl v
[09:30] <chris> dianwei: in a terminal, but replace the username with your username, and the folders and partitions with yours, and if you already mounted them you have to "umount" them and start over again.
[09:30] <njan> dianwei, select and then midle click
[09:30] <ianu> termin8tor, yep
[09:30] <njan> s/midle/middle/
[09:30] <budluva> dianwei ctrl x is cut
[09:30] <Dropnode> erm...
[09:30] <sunshine> mrx____ im offer u chat
[09:30] <intelikey> dianwei normally highlight and then middle click / both click
[09:30] <Dropnode> HappyFool: i seem to have boogered it up a bit.
[09:30] <budluva> oh
[09:30] <budluva> we're talking in a term? my bad
[09:30] <dianwei> I will try, and report back, thanks so much.
[09:30] <mrx___> ianu:  might try to see if you have something close in version to libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 and symlink it to that name.  ugly hack, but it might work
[09:30] <Dropnode> how i don't know...
[09:30] <HappyFool> Dropnode: what happened?
[09:30] <Dropnode> well.
[09:30] <ianu> so, goto the terminal in root and
[09:31] <Dropnode> big error when i saved the file and went to run synaptic
[09:31] <nalioth> sunshine: you can't offer chat, because you are unidentified
[09:31] <ianu> symlink libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[09:31] <Dropnode> may i pm it to you as to not flodd in here?
[09:31] <Dropnode> it's pretty big.
[09:31] <irox> whats the default root passwd?
[09:31] <sunshine> nalioth what do u mean
[09:31] <HappyFool> Dropnode: standby
[09:31] <mrx___> ianu:  ls /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6
[09:31] <Dropnode> yep.
[09:31] <intelikey> irox there isn't one
[09:31] <Java_the_Hutt> I have a question about OpenOffice writer. The default A4 size with 100% zoom, is not displayed 21 cm width on my screen. IS that the same with you ?
[09:31] <irox> so how do i run synaptic?
[09:31] <nalioth> sunshine: for you to private message someone, you should identify yourself to nickserv  type /msg nickserv help register
[09:31] <ianu> ls /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6
[09:31] <intelikey> unless you set a root passwd there is not one.
[09:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell irox about synaptic
[09:32] <ianu> ls: /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6: No such file or directory
[09:32] <intelikey> use your passwd
[09:32] <HappyFool> Dropnode: have you run 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[09:32] <irox> tnx
[09:32] <Dropnode> doing now
[09:32] <termin8tor> irox : click on system - administration - synaptic
[09:32] <irox> did it, tnx
[09:32] <amigrave> is there a default password for mysql-server-4.1 ? I tried to set my root password just after installing using   sudo mysqladmin -u root password 'mypassword' but I got an access denied error
[09:32] <chris> How do I recover a failed Breezy installation and continue where I left off?
[09:32] <mrx___> ianu:  sudo find / -name libstdc++-libc6 -type f
[09:32] <sunshine> nalioth i have a prob with that everytime i put my password in it say incorrect how do i fix that
[09:32] <johndilley> amigrave: I think it's blank
[09:33] <Dropnode> sorry to bug you with all of this, i just wanan see a distro not choke this laptop, and this one seems to run niiiiice
[09:33] <HappyFool> mrx___: i think there's only 'libstdc++.so.6' and similar
[09:33] <mrx___> k, thx
[09:33] <derchilligephil|> how can i open a text file with user root
[09:33] <sunshine> mrx hold on i need to reg with nick for us to have our own char
[09:33] <Dropnode> there we go
[09:33] <Dropnode> running now
[09:33] <intelikey> user root ?
[09:33] <Dropnode> looks like it's doing something
[09:33] <intelikey> 8*{
[09:34] <amigrave> johndilley: do you have and idea why I could have an access deny just after installing it ?
[09:34] <HappyFool> Dropnode: synaptic is a reasonably nice gui interface for this
[09:34] <Dropnode> yerah it's really damn nice.
[09:34] <Dropnode> lol
[09:34] <HappyFool> Dropnode: also 'aptitude' is a curses (text menu) interface to apt
[09:34] <derchilligephil|> i need to edit a cfg file
[09:34] <Dropnode> ok.
[09:34] <nalioth> sunshine: use the correct nick or password
[09:34] <Dropnode> sudo apt-get update finished
[09:34] <derchilligephil|> and now i want to open it as root
[09:34] <Dropnode> now run synaptic?
[09:34] <derchilligephil|> in the text editor
[09:34] <intelikey> derchilligephil| sudo nano/gedit <file>
[09:34] <HappyFool> Dropnode: go for it
[09:34] <HappyFool> Dropnode: ~ 15000 packages for your perusal ;) (i think that's the right number)
[09:34] <johndilley> amigrave: have you tried just running mysql -u root ?
[09:35] <Dropnode> wow, THAT stuck a lag in the starttime
[09:35] <Dropnode> lol
[09:35] <perlhead> Is there a way to get Ubuntu (breezy) to use my Alps touchpad?
[09:35] <derchilligephil|> izi
[09:35] <Dropnode> now.
[09:35] <crimsun> perlhead: should by default
[09:35] <Dropnode> one last pester HappyFool
[09:35] <perlhead> I'm at wit's ends here
[09:35] <HappyFool> Dropnode: shoot
[09:35] <perlhead> Dropnode: I understand it should.
[09:35] <Dropnode> is ther *anything* i absolutely will bescrewed without installing from this list?
[09:36] <Dropnode> like any kind of packages i should really take the time to get?
[09:36] <perlhead> Dropnode: xorg recognizes it and all
[09:36] <perlhead> but it just doesn't do any of the neat stuff
[09:36] <Dropnode> hey... can i get kde from this thing?
[09:36] <sunshine> nalioth there is some kind of error it give me this page syntax register password i try it and it say no channel join
[09:36] <perlhead> it works like an ordinary mouse
[09:36] <HappyFool> Dropnode: well, it obviously depends what you need
[09:36] <crimsun> Dropnode: kubuntu-desktop
[09:36] <HappyFool> Dropnode: yip. try installing 'kubuntu-desktop'
[09:36] <amigrave> johndilley: no but I tried sudo mysql and I got access denied, gonna try what you said
[09:36] <nalioth> sunshine: you must private msg nickserv   /msg nickserv help register
[09:36] <HappyFool> Dropnode: i always install emacs first ;) (why isn't it on the cd ? *sniffle*)
[09:37] <amigrave> johndilley: I got the main help of mysqladmin
[09:37] <Dropnode> HappyFool: just setting the laptop up for mobile *basic* office and some wireless recon work
[09:37] <zodoz> does anyone know why my x-windows does not load
[09:37] <zodoz> I am running the amd64 version
[09:37] <dianwei> Huzzuh, the folders are off the desktop! Thanks Chris for helping me with that, and thanks for the copy/pate info, myriad of people.
[09:38] <sunshine> nalioth i did that and it said syntax: register password
[09:38] <HappyFool> Dropnode: sounds positively illegal! ;) you already have openoffice.org -- don't know what you'd need for wireless
[09:38] <dell500> is there a way to  get dual monitors to have resolutions that accually fit the monitors correctly? or does it have to scroll up and down??
[09:38] <johndilley> don't really know about mysqladmin, sorry
[09:38] <No1Viking> Yo guys!
[09:39] <nalioth> sunshine: /msg nickserv register <the password you want>
[09:39] <No1Viking> Are there any scanning options in Ubuntu?
[09:39] <zodoz> would anyone know how to fix x-windows in the amd64 version?
[09:39] <No1Viking> Are there any scanning options in Ubuntu?
[09:39] <Dropnode> well, i'm off to go play with my new ubuntu mobile, i'll spread my new knowledge if anyone needs it =)
[09:39] <sunshine> nalioth i've try that as well it say sunshine is already register
[09:39] <Dropnode> thx a TON HappyFool
[09:39] <amigrave> johndilley: oops sorry, I misread what you said. Ignore my last post. I found the problem. I had a .my.cnf in my user home dir. ;-)  I'm still not used to sudo
[09:39] <Dropnode> you own.
[09:40] <nalioth> sunshine: then choose another nick
[09:40] <intelikey> zodoz sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xrog   maybe
[09:40] <bender_> can someone tell me how to run a diagnostic on your dvd/cdrom?
[09:40] <bender_> what program to use etc
[09:40] <sunshine> nalioth how do i access forget password
[09:40] <zodoz> thx alot
[09:40] <nalioth> sunshine: you join #freenode and ask them to help you
[09:40] <sunshine>  nalioth i think i registe at the freenode websit
[09:40] <sunshine> enalioth ok
[09:42] <intelikey> bender_ there might be a fsck.<blah> for that.  i don't know.
[09:42] <ubuntu> i'm on ubuntu live cd!
[09:42] <ubuntu> :):)
[09:42] <moquist> Seveas: I over-spoke earlier when I said I didn't want preinst and postinst to _run_.  What I really don't want is the interactivity.  I'm poking around in debconf but if this is possible no solution is obvious yet...  Surely it must be possible to specify answers to anticipated debconf questions in a conf file or on the command line, or something.  ?
[09:42] <sunshine> mrw i cant private chat with ya is there anyway u can help me in here plz
[09:42] <ubuntu> this is sweet
[09:43] <sunshine> mrw i need help in freenode before i can
[09:43] <sunshine> nalioth would chanserv voice me if im not registeres
[09:43] <moquist> ubuntu: I ran the LiveCD for 4 days straight once in order to help diagnose a HW problem.  It's fun, especially if you install a few packages and customize your environment.  :)
[09:43] <intelikey> moquist -y   ????
[09:44] <ianu> i search my hdd
[09:44] <ianu> sudo find / -name libstdc++-libc6 -type f
[09:44] <nalioth> sunshine: if you wait a few minutes in there, they'll voice you
[09:44] <ianu> but nothin
[09:44] <wolden> should i install breeze or stay faithful to hoary?
[09:44] <moquist> intelikey: thx, but that just answers "yes".  I need something that answers questions asked about configuring individual packages -- these options wouldn't be generic to apt-get.
[09:44] <sunshine> nalioth ok
[09:44] <sorush20> is there an .swf editor for linux?
[09:44] <gimmulf> What is SIGSERV?
[09:44] <ubuntu> moquist lol, my hard drives are all NTFS and I cant mount them on liveCD it appears, but would they still be at risk of getting hacked on livecd (cuz no firewall)
[09:45] <nalioth> sorush20: not yet
[09:45] <moquist> intelikey: stuff like "What is your LDAP root password?"
[09:45] <nalioth> sorush20: there is one in very very alpha status
[09:45] <Seveas> moquist, what you are looking for is preseeding
[09:45] <HappyFool> ianu: what are you running, ubuntu 5.10 ?
[09:45] <ianu>  no, 5.04
[09:45] <sorush20> nalioth: there is one it here.. http://f4l.sourceforge.net/
[09:45] <sunshine> mrw well i have to wait in freenode for help so i can register and have private chat
[09:45] <moquist> ubuntu: heh; at first I thought you said "NFS", and I was going to say "Me too!  That's why I could be so productive on a liveCD system."  But alas, sorry dude.  You can't do much with your files.  :)
[09:45] <sazwerx> how to remove "recent file play list" at totem?
[09:45] <nalioth> sorush20: and it is very very rough around the edges
[09:45] <sorush20> nalioth where is the other one you are talking about?
[09:45] <HappyFool> ianu: does 'ls /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6' show anything?
[09:45] <ubuntu> moquist lol ok thanks
[09:46] <Seveas> moquist, have a look at the debconf documentation
[09:46] <moquist> Seveas: k; I'll see ... yep.
[09:46] <Seveas> sourcing the debconf modules from your script and preseeding the answers with db_set should work
[09:46] <Whistler> !w32codecs
[09:46] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[09:46] <ubuntu> i'll be back once ive got a dual boot going with WinXP
[09:47] <moquist> Seveas: that sounds perfect.  thx again for your help.
[09:47] <Seveas> have a looka t the scripts that run interactively for examples
[09:47] <ianu> HappyFool: i got /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
[09:47] <moquist> yep, am doing it.  :)
[09:47] <HappyFool> ianu: ok, try this:    LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 ./uplink
[09:47] <Puky> Hi again!
[09:47] <HappyFool> ianu: or whatever the command was
[09:48] <Puky> budluva I found the solution for my input and language problems!
[09:48] <HappyFool> ianu: whether this works may be a function of unpleasant things like C++ (or g++) binary compatbility, etc
[09:49] <intelikey> symlinks are good for such
[09:50] <perlhea1> folks, I undestand Breezy ought to use my ALPS touchpad out of the box, but somehow it doesnt: x.org sees it and all, yet it doesn't do any of the fancy stuff: no scrolling, no nothing. Anybody can help? My xorg.conf is at http://pastebin.com/401248, the corresponding log is at http://pastebin.com/401253
[09:51] <foampeac1> hi
[09:51] <perlhea1> any takers?
[09:51] <foampeac1> cani make opera or any other browser use the prescribed mozilla plugins?
[09:51] <HappyFool> perlhea1: looks like no-one knows. have you tried ubuntuforums.org ?
[09:51] <derchilligephil|> hey
[09:51] <derchilligephil|> i open a file in nano
[09:51] <derchilligephil|> write the conf
[09:51] <derchilligephil|> now i want to save
[09:52] <derchilligephil|> no permission he says
[09:52] <HappyFool> right, even
[09:52] <derchilligephil|> how can i save now
[09:52] <GigaClon> anyone know how to create/edit flash in ubuntu?
[09:52] <Severian> Does anyone have a concise description of how to add the marillat gpg key?  I want to update the RestrictedFormats wiki page with the information.
[09:52] <nalioth> derchilligephil|: ctrl-x to close, ctrl-o to write to file
[09:52] <nalioth> GigaClon: use windows
[09:52] <derchilligephil|> yeah i know
[09:53] <perlhea1> HappyFool: I have. I even took the advice I found there
[09:53] <nalioth> Severian: marillat is bad news
[09:53] <derchilligephil|> but when i want to save he says no permission
[09:53] <sbalneav> Here's an odd one: if I start wesnoth from the command line, I get sound.  If I create a launcher for it on the panel, no sound.  Any idears?
[09:53] <perlhea1> HappyFool: didn't help :-(
[09:53] <derchilligephil|> how can i save it now under a different name
[09:53] <nalioth> Severian: use of marillat WILL break your box
[09:53] <derchilligephil|> hee user
[09:53] <derchilligephil|> not name
[09:53] <sits> HappyFool: wow
[09:54] <sits> HappyFool: I'm very very impressed (I had to rush downstairs to sort out a burnt pizza).
[09:54] <Severian> nalioth, when I use it, I always disable it right after I install what I need.  In this case, I want the w32codecs.  I that a bad package from marillat?
[09:54] <HappyFool> sits: it all worked out, thank goodness ;)
[09:54] <gimmulf> Is there any good diagnostic software for motherboard/cpu avaiable?
[09:54] <sits> HappyFool: fantastic job, extremely well done
[09:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Severian about w32codecs
[09:55] <HappyFool> perlhea1: sorry, i've never even linux on a laptop or with a touchpad
[09:55] <HappyFool> sits: :-)
[09:55] <sits> HappyFool: btw, find -name blah
[09:55] <GigaClon> im trying to convert SWF to some other vector graphics format
[09:55] <sits> HappyFool: is faster but other than that a faultless fix up. My hat goes off to you
[09:55] <corincole> ooh, Seveas, ure +o again now
[09:55] <corincole> :P
[09:55] <zodoz> ok, is there any site that someone can suggest to get tech help w/ my x-windows?
[09:56] <andril> hello all
[09:56] <corincole> lol Seveas
[09:56] <B_166-ER-X> : i have tried to follow the guide here : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76309 to repair my usplash but i have a bug : it says when it tries to load the linux image something like there is no such directory....   i'm on a am-k7 duron Pc , should i use the amd-k7 linux image of 386 ??
[09:56] <GigaClon> also I have a package that depends on this libqt3c102-mt but i can't install that package
[09:56] <B_166-ER-X> of = or
[09:56] <B_166-ER-X> right now its 386
[09:56] <Severian> nalioth, should the wiki page be updated to the new location?  I will do it, unless someone thinks this is a bad idea.  The RestrictedFormats wiki page points people to marillat.
[09:57] <zodoz> has anyone else worked w/ the amd64 version of ubuntu?
[09:57] <crimsun> GigaClon: that's because libqt3c102-mt doesn't exist in Breezy, it's libqt3-mt
[09:57] <chucho>  ubotu: tell chucho about w32codecs
[09:57] <cionimba> Hi!
[09:57] <GigaClon> but my package is stupid apparently, and wants libqt3c102-mt
[09:57] <balzac> hello
[09:57] <dianwei> What is the mask I need to add to be able to view the files again?
[09:57] <balzac> I'm about to install open office 2
[09:57] <cionimba> Does anybody knows here how to setup an ltsp server?
[09:57] <Seveas> !tell GigaClon about skype
[09:57] <nalioth> Severian: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[09:57] <zodoz> has anyone else worked with the amd64 version of ubuntu?
[09:58] <lck> how do i change the lang from utf8 to iso?
[09:58] <deFrysk> GigaClon, is it opera ?
[09:58] <Severian> zodoz, I set up the amd64 version for a friend.  It was a month ago, so I used hoary.  What kind of question do you have?
[09:58] <yi> zodoz: i just installed it last night
[09:58] <sits> HappyFool: I think I'm going to run away now. I don't think I'm nearly as good at coping in this type of channel as the likes of yourself and aftertaf
[09:58] <deFrysk> oh skype
[09:58] <sits> HappyFool: happy computing!
[09:58] <yi> does muine segfault for anyone else on breezy?
[09:58] <B_166-ER-X> If i uninstall linux-image and put linux-image amd-k7 instead of 386, will my computer will like dont even open or something ?
[09:58] <sbalneav> ah, need to install libsdl1.2-debian-esd instead of the default -oss
[09:58] <Welly> hey all.. I'm trying to reconfigure this dev web server.. i've currently got apache2 running and want to run apache 1.3.. i've done apt-get remove apache2
[09:58] <HappyFool> sits: ok. cheers :)
[09:58] <Welly> which it did fine
[09:58] <HappyFool> Sionide: it helps to focus on one thing only at a time
[09:58] <Seveas> .csop
[09:58] <HappyFool> oops
[09:58] <zodoz> I am running a amd64 laptop, and I installed ubuntu fine, but my xwindows will not load
[09:58] <HappyFool> sorry sionide
[09:59] <zodoz> and I'm not as good w/ the konsole as I used to be, so I'm kind of stuck in a rut
[09:59] <Welly> but since rebooting, the apache2 is still running and apt-get remove apache2 reports "package apache2 is not installed, so not removed"
[09:59] <zodoz> without the GUI
[09:59] <Welly> anyone any ideas?
[09:59] <GigaClon> deFrysk, its Flash4Linux
[09:59] <derchilligephil|> how can i restart samba
[09:59] <HappyFool> derchilligephil|:     sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[10:00] <Welly> how can the web server still be running respite it being removed?
[10:00] <intelikey> anyone know cli howto,  search for avalable package names by text in their descriptions ?
[10:00] <derchilligephil|> can u explain me why? :)
[10:00] <johndilley> Welly: there are many variants of apache2
[10:00] <shedi> intelikey, apt-cache search bla
[10:00] <patrickj> hey
[10:00] <HappyFool> derchilligephil|: all the 'service' startup/shutdown scripts live in /etc/init.d
[10:01] <patrickj> whats a good media player, im trying to watch the purepwnage videos
[10:01] <johndilley> Welly: run synaptic and search for apache2
[10:01] <Welly> johndilley, any idea where else or how else it might be running?
[10:01] <derchilligephil|> is it a program or what means this d?
[10:01] <HappyFool> derchilligephil|: if you 'ls /etc/init.d' you'll see them
[10:01] <derchilligephil|> daemon ?
[10:01] <lsuactiafner> patrickj : mplayer is most popular
[10:01] <Welly> johndilley, can that be done from the command line? I don't have a keyboard/mouse plugged into my linux box
[10:01] <HappyFool> derchilligephil|: i think init.d mean 'init directory'
[10:01] <johndilley> oh ok
[10:01] <sorush20> guys how does qmake work
[10:01] <HappyFool> derchilligephil|: but it's just a name
[10:01] <sorush20> do I have to do qconfigure
[10:01] <derchilligephil|> yeah k
[10:01] <johndilley> try apt-get remove apache2-mpm-prefork
[10:01] <sorush20> then qmake  then qmake install
[10:01] <flodine> anyone install gmusicbrowser in breezy yet?
[10:01] <derchilligephil|> but i need to understand this stuff here :)
[10:01] <mojo> patrickj: i've had good luck with VLC, but YMMV.
[10:02] <lsuactiafner> Welly : ssh into the bix and apt-cache search program
[10:02] <derchilligephil|> the installation was succesfull
[10:02] <shedi> Welly, dpkg -l| grep apache2
[10:02] <zodoz> does anyone know of a problem with the xwindows in ubuntu?
[10:02] <B_166-ER-X> can someone help me with my linxu image questions ?
[10:02] <scognito_> where i can see the breezy changelog?
[10:02] <drac> Does this "http://hdr.unk.fi/ubuntu/sources.list" cover all official repositories?
[10:02] <coolaj86> I'm trying to set up a vnc session running fluxbox, but gnome keeps coming up instead. What aside from .vnc/xstartup do I need to change?
[10:02] <derchilligephil|> now i want to set up my samba stuff that i can connect to my server again
[10:02] <Welly> johndilley: that seems to be uninstalling something
[10:02] <scognito_> i want to see the feature of breez
[10:02] <coolaj86> B_166-ER-X: what's the question?
[10:02] <patrickj> ah Im getting VLC :P
[10:02] <Welly> shedi: is that listing the apache2 packages installed?
[10:02] <zodoz> does anyone know how I can start xwindows via konsole?
[10:02] <HappyFool> scognito_: check out the release announcement in the ubunt-announce archives, for starters. i don't know where you'd get a complete changelog from (it might be long ;)
[10:03] <johndilley> Welly: that's probably it then - check once it's uninstalled that its not running
[10:03] <shedi> Welly, yes
[10:03] <tarheelcoxn> zodoz: startx?
[10:03] <Welly> shedi: so if i want to just run apache 1.3, i can get rid of all those?
[10:03] <coolaj86> how can I change the DE vnc uses?
[10:03] <shedi> Welly, yes you can
[10:03] <zodoz> ah, ok
[10:03] <intelikey> zodoz startx
[10:03] <derchilligephil|> mh why is my samba dont use the thing is the config file
[10:03] <Welly> cool thank you!
[10:03] <B_166-ER-X> I want to repair my usplash, but it i follow the guide, at startup, my  linux tells me that it cannot load the linux image since the directory or file do not exist : witch make me ask ; do i need to have the 386 linuximage, or amd-k7, if i have a duron amd-k7 ? coolaj86
[10:03] <derchilligephil|> its there with a diffenrent name and i cant connect
[10:03] <zodoz> and is there a reason it will not start on boot up?
[10:03] <mojo> Are there any APT mages around?  I am having problems with errors like this: Err http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Sources
[10:03] <mojo>   Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:8118 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[10:04] <Welly> so is there an install of apache2 by default with the badger?
[10:04] <mojo> when doing apt-get installs
[10:04] <Seveas> mojo, either fix your proxy or disable the use of it....
[10:04] <intelikey> zodoz /etc/init.d/gdm    maybe ?
[10:04] <zodoz> for what?
[10:04] <zodoz> gdm for what?
[10:04] <shedi> Welly, no
[10:04] <mojo> Seveas: yah, I noticed the :8118 but dont' know where it came from.  I don't have a proxy installed at the moment
[10:04] <intelikey> startup proccess to load the gnome window manager....
[10:04] <mojo> (least i don't think so)
[10:04] <Welly> hmm.. wonder how that was installed then.. never mind
[10:05] <tarheelcoxn> zodoz: x won't start? does it give you a warning that it failed? have you looked in /var/log?
[10:05] <zodoz> yes
[10:05] <zodoz> did not know where to look
[10:05] <zodoz> but I can check it next time
[10:05] <shedi> Welly,might be a dependency to something you selected?
[10:05] <Welly> could be..
[10:05] <zodoz> but it does give me an error
[10:05] <B_166-ER-X> coolaj86, ? can you help ?
[10:05] <zodoz> says to update I guess, but I just installed it about 1 hour ago
[10:05] <tarheelcoxn> zodoz: you likely need to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:05] <coolaj86> B_166-ER-X: I'm not famaliar with usplash. Have you recompiled your kernel and placed it in /boot/vmlinuz-CUSTOM_NAME and edited grub to point to it correctly?
[10:05] <scognito_> HappyFool, ok tnx
[10:05] <niri>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[10:05] <zodoz> I've already done that once
[10:05] <balzac> open office 2 comes with a bunch of .rpms and one .deb in a subdir. i'm not sure how to install it.
[10:06] <mrx___> tarheelcoxn:  unc and into rowing?
[10:06] <zodoz> I've already reconfigured it once
[10:06] <tarheelcoxn> mrx___: good call
[10:06] <conn> hi, is it normal for cpu usage to jump from idle (~5%) to around 30% merely by moving the mouse cursor? I'm afraid my X server isn't working well but I don't know how to troubleshoot, everything is sluggish. Any ideas?
[10:06] <giovan> alo
[10:06] <giovan> brasil
[10:06] <mrx___> tarheelcoxn:  lol
[10:06] <giovan> you all users of ubuntu?
[10:06] <crimsun> ah, the good ole days of chapel hill
[10:06] <B_166-ER-X> Coolaj86 well my linux boot well usually...its just after those mods that it does this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76309
[10:07] <intelikey> zodoz reconfigure with very low rez and startx  then from within x you can tweek it
[10:07] <B_166-ER-X> First make sure you have installed whichever kernel is suitable for your processor. I use an athlon-xp processor, so I use the "linux-image-2.6.12-9-k7" package.    (thats waht i mean, i'm not even sure to have the right image)
[10:07] <Welly> giovan, you can assume, being we're in #ubuntu, we're either users or users to be or users that were
[10:08] <intelikey> hmmm Welly  that being said.   i guess i need to leave now.....
[10:08] <giovan> right.. i use this o.s.
[10:08] <mrx___> B_166-ER-X:  the k7 variant of the kernel is appropriate for athlon xp
[10:08] <HappyFool> B_166-ER-X: fwiw, i use the linux-k7 package to get linux-restricted-modules too, and get 'correct' upgrades (not sure if that is an issue)
[10:08] <Welly> intelikey, hows that?
[10:09] <B_166-ER-X> I have a duron amd-k7 but right now my image is the 386 one, could that be an issue ?
[10:09] <coolaj86> B_166-ER-X: no, a 386 kernel will work fine on a k7
[10:09] <B_166-ER-X> ok..
[10:10] <B_166-ER-X> but its still saying that it cannot find the dire or file
[10:10] <B_166-ER-X> arr
[10:10] <HappyFool> B_166-ER-X: i ran linux-386 when i used hoary. to be honest i don't notice much difference using -k7
[10:10] <giovan> do you now coolstreaming for linux?
[10:10] <giovan> someone?
[10:10] <coolaj86> B_166-ER-X: ls /boot
[10:11] <coolaj86> cat /boot/grub/grub.conf
[10:11] <hendrik_> do somebody know the preparations of working wireless with an acer aspire 1500
[10:12] <hendrik_> I can't get a wireless internet connection on my laptop for 7 days can please somebody help me it is with a wep key
[10:12] <bjorn> does anbody think they can help me with my internet connection, it is becoming slow now and then and sometimes it completly quits, the only way to get it back then is to reboot in windows and then boot back into ubuntu (if it does now, i might not answer :P)
[10:12] <B_166-ER-X> arr
[10:13] <Welly> ok.. got that uninstalled.. how would i specify version 1.3.33 of apache?
[10:13] <Welly> i know it exists in the repository
[10:13] <crimsun> pass the version
[10:13] <Welly> oh right..apt-get install apache 1.3.33?
[10:14] <HappyFool> Welly: well, afaict the plain 'apache' package is version 1.3.33 in breezy
[10:14] <crimsun> apache=1.3.33-8
[10:14] <hendrik_> please can somebdy help me with wireless internet on my laptop
[10:14] <Welly> i'll give that a whirl!
[10:15] <hendrik_> please
[10:15] <bjorn> nobody?... need facts?...
[10:15] <corincol1> hey all
[10:15] <B_166-ER-X> ok anothere question : i really need a hint here, i'm not sure how to do what i haveto do  look at this thread ; at the end, of the first thread,  he says 'if something goes wrong..ect..' well, something got wrong, and now i did boot with the backup....but i need to know HOW to overwrite the original with my .bak  ... please ?
[10:16] <crimsun> hendrik_: what's the issue?|
[10:16] <gimmulf> is DNS the same as Nameserver? :)
[10:16] <Frafra> hello
[10:16] <kevogod> Has anyone used Opera 9 TP on Breezy?
[10:16] <mrx___> gimmulf: yes
[10:16] <gimmulf> thanks
[10:16] <Frafra> can i play .rm and .ram video on breezy for amd64 doesn't using a 32-bit chroot?
[10:17] <hendrik_> wireless internet connection i can't get it installed on my laptop i'm just changed my pc into linux so i'm a noob in linux
[10:17] <crimsun> hendrik_: do you have Ubuntu installed on it?
[10:17] <hendrik_> yes
[10:17] <coolaj86> B_166-ER-X: just edit grub.conf to the name of the old file
[10:18] <bjorn> somebody? a link at least :(
[10:18] <crimsun> hendrik_: and which wireless chipset is it?
[10:18] <minyaliel> how's multimedia supported in breezy? *is annoyed cus can't play mp3s anymore*
[10:18] <Welly> ok.. when i install php4 it seems to want to install apache2, which is not what i want
[10:18] <hendrik_> none my laptop support wireless internet
[10:18] <coolaj86> B_166-ER-X: the name of the old kernel, according to those instructions, is .bak
[10:18] <Seveas> Welly, what do you want instead? apache1?
[10:18] <coolaj86>  /msg me if you need more help
[10:19] <Welly> Seveas: yea.. although i've just installed that
[10:19] <crimsun> minyaliel: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:19] <Welly> i just want php4 now
[10:19] <gimmulf> How do i get an ip from an DNS?
[10:19] <Welly> and then mysql 4.1
[10:19] <minyaliel> crimsun: hey, thanx:)
[10:19] <Seveas> Welly, install libapache-mod-php4
[10:19] <shedi> gimmulf, nslookup
[10:19] <gimmulf> thanks
[10:19] <hendrik_> my acer aspire laptop doesn't need a wireless card
[10:20] <enoon> I need help with broken locale stuff
[10:20] <Welly> Seveas: that'll install php and set it up for apache 1.3 then?
[10:20] <crimsun> hendrik_: I realize that, but your laptop has a wireless chipset.
[10:20] <B_166-ER-X> coolaja86 yes... but i dont see how to open the .bak file to overwrite the old one
[10:20] <strike3> any wifi experts in ?
[10:20] <Seveas> Welly, yup
[10:20] <B_166-ER-X> its not initrd.img.bak
[10:21] <Welly> nice one.. cheers mate!
[10:21] <hendrik_> is that Ieee 802.11g
[10:21] <bjorn> well... okey... i'll rty in some forums more :(
[10:21] <crimsun> hendrik_: that's the spec. I need the actual hardware name.
[10:21] <coolaj86> B_166-ER-X: /msg coolaj86 and then give me the output of ls /boot
[10:21] <Welly> Seveas: ooh.. almost.. it's installed but browsing to a php page prompts me to save the file
[10:21] <hendrik_> where can i find that
[10:22] <crimsun> hendrik_: in lspci -v
[10:22] <crimsun> hendrik_: don't paste here
[10:22] <Seveas> Welly, yeah, you need to setup apache1 yourself
[10:23] <Welly> ha.. ok
[10:23] <Seveas> for apache2 there's a nice config thingie,
[10:23] <sizzam> i just got a new motherboard with onboard video (via chipset).  whats the easiest way to tell if 3d is enabled
[10:23] <Welly> i'll have a sniff about for that then
[10:23] <Linad> evning guys
[10:23] <hendrik_> what do you need
[10:23] <crimsun> hendrik_: I need the wireless chipset information
[10:23] <hendrik_> via technologies
[10:23] <strike3> anybody give any help on getting wireless card to work
[10:24] <B_166-ER-X> coolaj86 instead of overwriting, i just putted it like the file was at start... i'll reboot and see if it works... thx
[10:24] <hendrik_> vt823
[10:24] <canindya> whelly: most probably you dont have the php-mod-apache2 installed
[10:24] <crimsun> hendrik_: no, look for something along the lines of "Network controller"
[10:24] <canindya> so it cant recognise php, I just had the same problem
[10:24] <Linad> whats the problem
[10:24] <crimsun> strike3: ^^^
[10:24] <omeg> Hi there. I'd like to report a typo on an Ubuntu page. A pretty important one (the gold partnership program page!) http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/program/goldpartners/ - in the "benefits" header, "compatability" should be "compatibility".
[10:25] <hendrik_> I have it here it is Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[10:25] <omeg> Maybe an admin could address this issue, as I figure you'd want a page as commercially important as that to be top notch.
[10:25] <omeg> Specifically typos don't look very professional.
[10:25] <HappyFool> anyone here ever played with rtai ? I see it's in the ubuntu repos (yay), but apparently i need an 'adeos patch' for the kernel
[10:25] <strike3> crimsun ?
[10:25] <Linad> what type of card do you have
[10:25] <crimsun> strike3: I need your wireless chipset info
[10:25] <HappyFool> omeg: isn't there an e-mail address on the page?
[10:25] <hendrik_> crimsun i have it here Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[10:26] <omeg> E-mailing is one way to get in touch. IRC is another.
[10:26] <coolaj86> B_166-ER-X: you don't need to overwrite.
[10:26] <coolaj86> You have a kernel image, which is a file, which should be located in /boot and linked in /
[10:26] <coolaj86> You should also have a kernel image with the same name, but with .bak at the end of it
[10:26] <coolaj86> If you edit /boot/grub/grub.conf, which tells the system which kernel to use, you can have both listed as possibilities and then switch back and forth to troubleshoot
[10:26] <omeg> Besides, is that e-mail link on the page even a way to report errors?
[10:26] <omeg> I thought it wasn't
[10:26] <strike3> acx111 - i did have it working then nothing when i rebooted doesnt even appear at all now - no wlan0
[10:26] <hendrik_> crimsun do you know what to do next
[10:27] <crimsun> hendrik_: use ndiswrapper
[10:27] <omeg> Anyway, it's in your hands now! I know I'd like my commercially important pages to be without typos. I hope you'll address this issue.
[10:27] <hendrik_> yes apt get ndiswrapper-utils
[10:27] <crimsun> strike3: lsmod|grep ^acx_pci
[10:28] <mdke> who writes the newton program?
[10:28] <mdke> it is bloody good
[10:29] <hendrik_> crimsun i have installed ndiswrapper
[10:29] <dmoyne> hello ! : I want to install a 64 bit motherboard ; if I do so will I be still able to boot my present Breezy 32 bit thanks ?
[10:30] <Nick_Hill> dmoyne, The AMD 64's are backwards comaptibel
[10:30] <crimsun> hendrik_: so now use it, ndiswrapper -i /path/to/inf/file
[10:30] <dmoyne>  Nick_Hill : have you made the switch ?
[10:30] <hendrik_> which driver must i install this one 80211g.zip
[10:30] <Nick_Hill> dmoyne, I haven't, but the CPUs are specified as being able to run 32 and 64 bit code. I haven't heard of problems.
[10:31] <strike3> crimsun: was i meant to get  a respnse to that command
[10:31] <mrx___> later
[10:31] <dmoyne>  Nick_Hill : yes I knew but I wanted to get some feedback on the experiment !
[10:32] <crimsun> strike3: yes
[10:33] <hendrik_> crimsun which driver must i install the  bcml driver
[10:33] <crimsun> hendrik_: use the .inf file
[10:33] <djjason> I have a rather annoying problem on my laptop as described http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78753 . Does anyone here have a clue what might be causing this.
[10:33] <B_166-ER-X> coolaj86 : guess what ; didnt work ...  i want my .bak file overwriting my  normal file ...I'm all yours.
[10:34] <strike3> crimsun: didnt get anything (is there a quick way to drag commands from this window into terminal)
[10:36] <andril> does anyone know when Breezy issues will be addressed?
[10:37] <crimsun> strike3: then you need to load it
[10:37] <crimsun> andril: could you be more precise?
[10:39] <jiger> hello everyone. can someone help me setup sudo on breezy
[10:39] <strike3> crimsun: how?/what ? sorry im new to ubuntu and linux - as i said id did work at one point but nothing now
[10:39] <andril> crimsum: missing packages,
[10:40] <_Grunch_> hi
[10:40] <Welly> this is infuriating.. why can't i just install apache 1.3 with php4 without installing any apache2 related crap?
[10:40] <andril> crimsum: i have used warty & hoary were fine - breezy is not living up to what was supposed to happen
[10:41] <crimsun> strike3: open a Terminal and type sudo modprobe acx_pci
[10:41] <_Grunch_> somebody here knows how change the ubuntu icon in the applications menu? is not in /usr/share/pixmaps
[10:41] <crimsun> andril: what was supposed to happen?
[10:41] <nir_> hi
[10:41] <nir_> how i update fron hoary to breezy ?
[10:41] <nir_> is there a WIKI ?
[10:41] <crimsun> yes, see the topic.
[10:42] <K-Rich> my home town was taken out of gweather :/ what a pisser!
[10:42] <strike3> crimsun: FATAL: Module acx_pci not found
[10:42] <g|patrick> hi
[10:42] <crimsun> strike3: dpkg -l linux-image-2.6.12-9-\*|grep ^ii
[10:42] <hendrik_> crimsun how to login as root
[10:42] <crimsun> hendrik_: use sudo
[10:42] <flodine> can someone tell me the best wireless card i can get to work with breezy?
[10:43] <g|patrick> does someone know reposotories that include wolfenstein: enemy territory?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> is there a reason why to install anjuta it wants to remove kde?
[10:43] <crimsun> g|patrick: none. Download it manually.
[10:43] <B_166-ER-X> coolaj86   didnt work again : i need help i think ..
[10:43] <corincole> what does this command do?:
[10:43] <dougsko> Welly: you should be able to, just install apache 1.3, then php4, then while your seeting up apache enable the php mod
[10:43] <onkarshinde> Can anyone tell me what exactly I need to add to .bashrc to set a environment variable like JAVA_HOME?
[10:43] <corincole> rm -rf /
[10:43] <corincole> ?
[10:43] <crimsun> onkarshinde: export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/java/home
[10:44] <Welly> dougsko: if i apt-get anything to do with php4, it installs a load of apache2 related packages too
[10:44] <corincole> can anyone tell me what rm -rf / does?
[10:44] <corincole> rm -rf /
[10:44] <strike3> crimsun : ii  linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 2.6.12-9.23    Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on 386
[10:44] <crimsun> corincole: "bad things"
[10:44] <warreng> does ubuntu not run inetd ?
[10:44] <athlon> corincol1, just run it ... and cry later
[10:44] <nir_> can i apt-get install xfce4-desktop ?
[10:44] <onkarshinde> crimsun: And how do i verify that it is done.
[10:44] <crimsun> warreng: because nothing needs to run from inetd by default.
[10:44] <sexcopter8000m> hi, just out of curiousity, does anyone know roughly how many people actually use ubuntu?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> nir_ i think its xubuntu
[10:44] <corincole> i do sexcopter
[10:44] <corincole> ;)
[10:44] <nalioth> athlon: that is very uncalled for
[10:44] <jiger> crimsun: sudo and su both got screwed up due to root user setup
[10:44] <crimsun> onkarshinde: echo $JAVA_HOME
[10:45] <crimsun> jiger: come again?
[10:45] <warreng> crimsun: i just installed ftpd-ssl, which added to inetd.conf, but there's no inetd?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:45] <Janni> I'm a total newbie. I have just installed, can someone page me ?
[10:45] <warreng> and i don't see a package for it
[10:45] <athlon> nalioth, you know that he knows what rm -rf / does
[10:45] <gnomefreak> for breezy atleast
[10:45] <nalioth> athlon: yes, but others who see your text may not
[10:45] <sunshine82> nalioth i am now registered
[10:45] <nalioth> sunshine82: great!
[10:45] <jiger> crimsun: actually did a expert setup and had setup root user/passwd
[10:45] <michael__> does anyone knoow where xserver log file is saved?
[10:46] <_Grunch_> somebody here knows how change the ubuntu icon in the applications menu? is not in /usr/share/pixmaps  i use breezy
[10:46] <sunshine82> happyfool i am now registered
[10:46] <nir_> btw : W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: Unknown error executing gpg... how i fix that , happened after upgrading to breezy fron hoary
[10:46] <onkarshinde> crimsun: It doesn't show anything
[10:46] <jiger> crimsun: but sudo didn't work. somehow feeling as if I was missing something. I read somewhere to disable su by running passwd -l root
[10:46] <perre> can some body help me? i have already downloadded and install kde, i have gnome working on ubuntu, but i want to see kde, how do i chande gnome for kde?
[10:46] <nalioth> nir_: run your apt-get command again
[10:46] <el_besugo> perre
[10:46] <jiger> crimsun: now sudo and su both are screwed up coz both dont work :(
[10:46] <crimsun> warreng: install netkit-inetd
[10:46] <bam_> _Grunch_, look at ubuntuforums.org
[10:46] <Nick_Hill> michael__, /var/log/xorg.log ?
[10:46] <nalioth> perre: at your gui login window click 'sessions'
[10:46] <el_besugo> perre: log out and choose kde as ur new session
[10:46] <michael__> does anyone know where the log file is for xwindow?
[10:46] <sunshine82> nalioth imagine i've been usin that person nick name for so long, oppd
[10:46] <sunshine82> oppps
[10:46] <perre> thanks
[10:47] <crimsun> jiger: so boot into rescue mode, mount / rw, and set a new root passwd
[10:47] <sunshine82> nalioth i didnt know it the same nake as my computer
[10:47] <nalioth> sunshine82: if they wanted it back, you'd have known, heh
[10:47] <gnomefreak> michael__,  Nick_Hill  just answered you
[10:47] <crimsun> onkarshinde: did you log in via another terminal?
[10:47] <Janni> Just installed ubuntu and logged in , but how do I start the GUI ?
[10:47] <warreng> crimsun: ah, thanks
[10:47] <michael__> thx
[10:47] <sunshine82> nalioth i got my own now so it cool now huh
[10:48] <jiger> crimsun: how do I go to rescue mode? Never had to use it uptil now :)
[10:48] <crimsun> strike3: ls /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/acx/acx_pci.ko
[10:48] <gnomefreak> janni: GUI as in gnome or any grafical desktop?
[10:48] <nalioth> sunshine82: now you can take advantage of all freenode offers
[10:48] <crimsun> jiger: choose it from the GRUB menu
[10:48] <coolaj86> vnc is loading gnome, I want it to load fluxbox - help?
[10:48] <Nick_Hill> jiger, At the boot prompt, add 1 to the boot line
[10:48] <onkarshinde> crimsun: I restarted computer and then after login to gui I opened gnome-terminal. Do i need to add it to ,bashrc or .bash_profile?
[10:49] <sunshine82> nalioth could u tell happyfool if u see him/her before me that im now sunshine 82 please
[10:49] <crimsun> onkarshinde: .bashrc is fine
[10:49] <nalioth> sunshine82: will do
[10:49] <cesar> hi!
[10:49] <Welly> why, when i do apt-get install apache=1.3.33-8 does it ant to install apache2-utils as well?
[10:49] <Nick_Hill> jiger, The exact way of doing it varies whether you are using lilo or grub. Basically, bring up the boot selector (lilo use ctrl+alt)
[10:49] <onkarshinde> crimsun: I put it into .bash_profile
[10:49] <sunshine82> naloth it seem he/she has gone but thanks for everything u've been great help
[10:49] <cesar> Can you tell me how i change to superuser using su or sudo?
[10:50] <Nick_Hill> cesar, sudo su
[10:50] <strike3> crimsun: no such file or directory
[10:50] <el_besugo> cesar: sudo su
[10:50] <sunshine82> nalioth i wont nag u now when i get into ubuntu reg
[10:50] <jiger> nick_hill: am using brub
[10:50] <jiger> grub
[10:50] <warreng> also, why doesn't my sshd listen on 0.0.0.0  ?
[10:50] <warreng> rather, do i even have sshd?
[10:50] <warreng> heh
[10:50] <KinkoBlast> the pokemon "Sudowoodo" is bad. "woodo" doesn't need to be run as root.
[10:51] <crimsun> strike3: uname -r
[10:51] <dougsko> warreng: you have to apt-get it
[10:51] <cesar> thank you
[10:51] <Nick_Hill> jiger, If you don't have a failsafe mode listed in the boot selector, select e to edit then add 1 to the boot line
[10:51] <cesar> ty
[10:51] <KinkoBlast> Erm, what can I do if I forget the root password?
[10:51] <TiMiDo> KinkoBlast reinstall
[10:51] <michael__> how would I update my xorg from konsole?
[10:51] <Nick_Hill> KinkoBlast, Boot with KNoppix or ubuntu boot cd
[10:51] <el_besugo> KinkoBlast: kill urself
[10:51] <el_besugo> heh!
[10:51] <strike3> crimsun: 2.6.12-9-386
[10:51] <KinkoBlast> I /ALMOST/ forgot it today and want to be ready next time
[10:52] <KinkoBlast> Nick_Hill: What good would that do?
[10:52] <el_besugo> KinkoBlast: u can try using jack the ripper
[10:52] <warreng> hrm, how do i tell the ubuntu gods that ftpd and ftpd-ssl should require netkit-inetd package?
[10:52] <Nick_Hill> KinkoBlast, Then mount the root file system, chroot, passwd
[10:52] <jiger> Nick_Hill: Ahh thanks. Hope I get back my root acces :) Thanks for the help
[10:52] <crimsun> warreng: file a bug in bugzilla
[10:52] <sunshine82> nalioth what does freenode have to offer beside private chat
[10:52] <TiMiDo> KinkoBlast try doing sudo -s
[10:52] <TiMiDo> and see if u can get into the root shell
[10:52] <crimsun> strike3: something's really messed up on your system
[10:52] <crimsun> strike3: that file exists according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=acx_pci.ko&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[10:53] <nalioth> sunshine82: /msg memoserv help   and /msg nickserv help
[10:53] <sunshine82> nalioth is there a website i could look at i dont want to keep ur time when u could be helpin someone
[10:53] <michael__> how do I update all the xorg and xwindows from  the konsole?
[10:54] <Nick_Hill> michael__, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:54] <nalioth> sunshine82: http://freenode.net
[10:54] <shale> what is the cmd to add sources to apt?
[10:54] <michael__> does that update everything?
[10:55] <Nick_Hill> michael__, Yes, but make sure your lists are up to date first. do sudo apt-get update to get refreshed lists
[10:55] <michael__> ok, thx
[10:55] <strike3> crimsun: there is no acx folder
[10:55] <michael__> I'll be back if it does not work
[10:55] <tyler90> is it possible to get netstumbler to work in ubuntu using crossover?
[10:55] <michael__> but thank you for your time
[10:55] <athlon> anyone know in which dir pine stores inbox for user ?
[10:55] <crimsun> strike3: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[10:55] <shale> what is the cmd to added new sources, like a CD-ROM to apt?
[10:56] <TiMiDo> athlon usually ./Mail
[10:56] <TiMiDo> shale apt-cdrom
[10:56] <chavo> shale, apt-cdrom add
[10:56] <shale> thanks guys
[10:56] <TiMiDo> but the cdrom should be there because when you installed it it should be there =)
[10:56] <TiMiDo> *when you installed ubuntu you will have it on you're source list
[10:56] <chavo> yes but you can upgrade from cdrom also
[10:56] <derchilligephil|> when i shut down my server and insert a ntfs harddisk, its easy to mount and copy data from there?
[10:57] <go_play> hello guys....i need help.....i downlaod the latest ubuntu, burned as i iso but stil it doesnt work...what i miss? pls help im stuck
[10:57] <shale> TiMiDo, yes it is, but i want to upgrade hoary to breezy without downloading everything, and i have a breezy cd-rom
[10:57] <TiMiDo> !tell derchilligephil| about ntfs
[10:57] <athlon> TiMiDo, yeah, though strangely enough it isnt there this time  *ponder*
[10:57] <d03boy> how can I find out what partition my fat32 filesystem is on? its my storage partition
[10:57] <Severian> d03boy, use fdisk
[10:58] <niekniek> hello!
[10:58] <TiMiDo> niekniek hello
[10:58] <stpere> openoffice 2 is out?
[10:58] <minyaliel> hey people, I need some help here... just spent two hours trying to upgrade to breezy and ended up getting a lot of error messages, I was asked to use a-pt get upgrade and I did, but it wouldn't work. What do I do?
[10:58] <Nick_Hill> derchilligephil|, If you only want to mount once, use the mount command.
[10:58] <TiMiDo> not yet and i don't think it will be stpere
[10:58] <niekniek> can anyone tell me where to find a list of default packages in ubuntu 5.10 server?
[10:58] <derchilligephil|> yeah izi
[10:58] <stpere> TiMiDo, look at openoffice.org
[10:58] <derchilligephil|> i will check it out
[10:58] <stpere> TiMiDo, there is a press release
[10:58] <derchilligephil|> linux is nice
[10:58] <derchilligephil|> :)
[10:58] <TiMiDo> stpere yeah i know it's out
[10:58] <derchilligephil|> first day today :)
[10:58] <maolin> modem
[10:58] <stpere> but not in ubuntu yet
[10:59] <stpere> ok, I get it :-)
[10:59] <derchilligephil|> brb
[10:59] <rhymes> which is the name of the next version of ubuntu?
[10:59] <niekniek> minyaliel, you shouldt apt-get upgrade but aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:59] <kingright> hello all
[10:59] <cesar> how can i delete a directory with content?
[10:59] <Nick_Hill> minyaliel, you may want to try sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:59] <nalioth> rhymes: dapper drake
[10:59] <niekniek> cesar: rm -rf
[10:59] <cesar> ty
[10:59] <Nick_Hill> minyaliel, or sudo aptitude -f dist-upgrade to be more forceful
[11:00] <niekniek> can anyone tell me where to find a list of default packages in ubuntu 5.10 server?
[11:00] <kingright> whats up all?
[11:00] <niekniek> what kind of a mailserver is ubuntu using?
[11:00] <TiMiDo> niekniek try www.ubuntu.com
[11:00] <minyaliel> right will try it
[11:00] <niekniek> timido: i know that... but it's not up to date
[11:00] <strike3> crimsun: OK now have acx folder
[11:01] <TiMiDo> niekniek then used synaptic, then
[11:01] <Belutz> niekniek, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:01] <go_play> hello guys....i need help.....i downlaod the latest ubuntu, burned as i iso but stil it doesnt work...what i miss? pls help im stuck
[11:01] <Nick_Hill> go_play, Does it boot?
[11:01] <crimsun> strike3: now sudo modprobe acx_pci
[11:01] <Severian> nalioth, I have updated the RestrictFormats wiki page.  If you would like to comment on it, that would be great.
[11:01] <mattt> my gosh, ubuntu runs 100x faster than fedora core 4 on my old dell laptop
[11:01] <quiet_> umm... what's the password for 'ubuntu' user on the livecd for hoary ?
[11:02] <holden> Where is the terminal on breezy?? i just installed it and cant find it
[11:02] <go_play> no nothing
[11:02] <kingright> where is my germany friend at?
[11:02] <crimsun> holden: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[11:02] <Belutz> niekniek, or directly go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/ for breezy packages
[11:02] <Nick_Hill> What program did you use to write the ISO?
[11:02] <go_play> nero
[11:02] <Seveas> holden, applications -> accessories
[11:02] <holden> crimsun, lol, thanks, needless to say i couldnt be more of a newby if i tried
[11:02] <Nick_Hill> Did you select to burn an ISO, or did you select write data CD?
[11:02] <go_play> iso
[11:02] <sizzam> will someone who thinks they have a great sources.list file put their contents here for me http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:03] <kingright> what program can i use to brun ISO files in ubuntu 5.04?
[11:03] <Seveas> !sources
[11:03] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[11:03] <Seveas> sizzam, ^--
[11:03] <sizzam> wow, ubotu rocks
[11:03] <TiMiDo> that's nice blackbox for windows,
[11:03] <Nick_Hill> go_play, If you open the CD in windows, what files can you see?
[11:03] <TiMiDo> looks nice
[11:03] <quiet_> anyone... please??
[11:03] <niekniek> belutz: but that's all the stuff... i want a dpkg -l from ubuntu server :)
[11:04] <shale> i installed breezy on a generic laptop and the x server won't start, but i have no idea what kind of video card is in it... any tips on getting X to run?
[11:04] <TiMiDo> quiet_ ask
[11:04] <Nick_Hill> go_play, Otherwise, you may need to tell your BIOS to boot from CD
[11:04] <quiet_> I did
[11:04] <quiet_> TiMiDo:
[11:04] <go_play> i did that
[11:04] <quiet_> password for livecd user 'ubuntu'
[11:04] <Belutz> niekniek, then use your synaptic or aptitude :-)
[11:04] <melchior_thomas> any exp of ubuntu server on ppc ?
[11:04] <TiMiDo> quiet_ you have to create a username dude
[11:04] <quiet_> screensaver locked desktop
[11:04] <kingright> what program can i use to brun ISO files in ubuntu 5.04?
[11:04] <quiet_> now it's asking for password
[11:04] <niekniek> belutz, then i have to install it first... :)
[11:04] <quiet_> TiMiDo: well the username in the box is 'ubuntu'
[11:04] <Nick_Hill> go_play, So your computer looks at the CD, then continues to boot from hard disc?
[11:04] <TiMiDo> quiet_ ok, put username ubuntu and then leave the password blank
[11:05] <quiet_> i did
[11:05] <niekniek> belutz, i'm lazy.. plz help :)
[11:05] <TiMiDo> ok well don't know then quiet_ how about root?
[11:05] <darius_> I'm sure this question hasn't been asked yet.. :)  Is the OpenOffice 2.0 release going to be an available package soon?
[11:05] <quiet_> can't.. only the user ubuntu can unlock the desktop... can't change username
[11:05] <TiMiDo> darius_ not soon,
[11:05] <crimsun> darius_: in Dapper.
[11:05] <darius_> wuh?
[11:05] <TiMiDo> quiet_ well,
[11:06] <niekniek> belutz, there's exim 3.36, 4 light, 4 heavy
[11:06] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[11:06] <niekniek> which 1 is default
[11:06] <niekniek> is there virusscanning
[11:06] <TiMiDo> hello EnsignRedshirt
[11:06] <niekniek> is there spamscanning
[11:06] <darius_> crimsun: you're kidding?
[11:06] <niekniek> is there mondo?
[11:06] <niekniek> is there a backupsystem
[11:06] <niekniek> etc :)
[11:06] <nalioth> niekniek: all of the above
[11:06] <crimsun> darius_: why would I kid?
[11:06] <darius_> crimsun: because I'm an easy target?
[11:06] <strike3> crimsun: no response to that but the power light on card is on now
[11:06] <crimsun> darius_: I have no incentive to
[11:07] <crimsun> strike3: now sudo dhclient wlan0
[11:07] <go_play> i have the iso file that i downlaod
[11:07] <EnsignRedshirt> Back in warty I used mplayer plugins of some sort for firefox.  In breezy I'm trying to give the defaults a chance.  What plugin do I need to watch a video clip on the CNN web page?
[11:07] <darius_> crimsun: well you're a nicer person than I .. but why would they not update the OpenOffice 2.0 package in Breezy?
[11:07] <Nick_Hill> darius_, crimsun Perhaps there wil be a backport
[11:07] <chavo> what version of open office is in breezy?
[11:07] <TiMiDo> EnsignRedshirt mozilla-mplayer
[11:07] <niekniek> nalioth, looks nice... freenx?
[11:07] <crimsun> darius_: because Breezy is frozen.
[11:07] <niekniek> 1.4
[11:07] <go_play> i made the changes on bios
[11:07] <nalioth> niekniek: yes freenx
[11:07] <go_play> but still nothing
[11:07] <darius_> but there's an OpenOffice 2.0 package for Breezy
[11:08] <crimsun> Nick_Hill: probably will be, but it will be in breezy-backports, not breezy.
[11:08] <crimsun> darius_: that's a beta package
[11:08] <Nick_Hill> go_play, If you put the CD in another computer, what files can you see on the CD?
[11:08] <derchilligephil|> how can i run vnc from console
[11:08] <darius_> right, will they upgrade the beta package?
[11:08] <derchilligephil|> that the server starts
[11:08] <crimsun> darius_: not in Breezy. It's frozen.
[11:08] <go_play> only the iso file
[11:08] <chavo> well if it's RC3, there are no changes between RC3 and final
[11:08] <Nick_Hill> go_play, Ok, problem solved...
[11:09] <niekniek> well it looks nice.. think i will try it out
[11:09] <quiet_> i got it to work.. i switched to a terminal and sudo passwd ubuntu and set one.. then the screen lock let me in..
[11:09] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, i've still got problems with async audio/video - what can I try?
[11:09] <niekniek> nalioth, no X :D
[11:09] <quiet_> tricky tricky
[11:09] <Nick_Hill> go_play, When you write an ISO to a CD, it is not the same as writing ordinary files to a CD.
[11:09] <nalioth> niekniek: no X?
[11:09] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: do you have these sync issues with another audio chipset?
[11:09] <go_play> ok...can u tell me then pls
[11:09] <strike3> crimsun: no dhcpoffers received. no working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[11:09] <niekniek> nalioth, on ubuntu server is no X, that's a good thing :D
[11:10] <stpere> how can I normalize the sound using ubuntu?
[11:10] <stpere> someone knows?
[11:10] <Nick_Hill> go_play, You need to select something like 'write CD from an image'. It will bring up a file selector box where you can select .nrg or .iso files. Select .iso. Then select the ubuntu iso image.
[11:10] <nalioth> niekniek: Xorg
[11:10] <crimsun> stpere: "normalize"?
[11:10] <atila_sendil> Hi all
[11:10] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, can't remember it being so bad with my audigy1, I can switch it out some day, and/or try onboard.
[11:10] <niekniek> nalioth, yeah i know, but not by default :)
[11:10] <crimsun> strike3: using WEP or WPA?
[11:10] <stpere> crimsun, normalize as having a constant audio output from rhythmbox
[11:10] <EnsignRedshirt> TiMiDo: Hmm... mozilla-mplayer is already installed.  When I click on a video link, a window comes up, but then I get an error that says "Totem could not play 'fd://0'."
[11:10] <niekniek> nalioth, do you know what's going on with the new x.org eye candy? how far is that?
[11:10] <stpere> crimsun, so I don't have to change the volume if it's not encoded the same
[11:10] <kingright> where is my germany friend at?
[11:11] <HiddenWolf> stpere, I've got a script that will add replaygain to all your files...
[11:11] <niekniek> nalioth, would be nice to see some Mac OS desktop swapping stuff on linux
[11:11] <crimsun> stpere: look at mp3gain, vorbisgain, and metaflac.
[11:11] <atila_sendil> even after reading the forums I am not still sure how to restore my GRUB after an XP install. the box boots directly into XP :-(
[11:11] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, i've got a script that'll do it for him.
[11:11] <nalioth> niekniek: i am not an eye candy man, so dont keep up with it (i'm a terminal user)
[11:11] <stpere> HiddenWolf, it works with ogg and mp3?
[11:11] <HiddenWolf> stpere, and flac too
[11:11] <sorush20> guys I can't print past page one o a file on my computer what the hell should I do?
[11:12] <stpere> HiddenWolf, is it publicly available?
[11:12] <Nick_Hill> go_play, I also recommend writing CDs at between 8 - 16x
[11:12] <niekniek> nalioth, me too, when i'm building servers... but on my desktop i don't mind :)
[11:12] <Nick_Hill> go_play, Slower written CDs generally read more reliably and faster
[11:12] <HiddenWolf> stpere, something someone wrote for me and i've kept ever since, I can put it online tho.
[11:12] <strike3> crimsun: no.  ive got mac filtering on and ssid bcast off thats all
[11:12] <stpere> HiddenWolf, I'm greatly interested
[11:13] <HiddenWolf> stpere, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3415
[11:13] <HiddenWolf> stpere, it's crude, but it works
[11:13] <EnsignRedshirt> Does anyone know what this error means?  In firefox, when I click on a video clip at the CNN web page, window comes up in which the video should play, but then another small error message pops up that says "Totem could not play 'fd://0'."
[11:13] <crimsun> strike3: ensure your settings match what the AP expects.
[11:14] <Nick_Hill> go_play, Here is a howto to write .iso images with Nero http://www.wizardskeep.org/mainhall/tutor/neroiso.html
[11:14] <stpere> HiddenWolf, thanks a lot
[11:14] <go_play> i right click on the file and the Copy Image to CD but the recorder pop an error msg
[11:14] <HiddenWolf> stpere, np
[11:14] <Nick_Hill> go_play, See my previous msg
[11:15] <d03boy> does ubuntu come with any mp3 playing apps that run in the shell?
[11:15] <cesar> how can i save a file in a usbdisk?
[11:15] <Seveas> d03boy, mpg321
[11:15] <d03boy> thanks
[11:15] <kingright> i need help!!
[11:15] <sizzam> i want to make it so that when i type 'bf' in a terminal, it starts bluefish.   how do i do that
[11:16] <Severian> kingright, I use k3b  I burned half a dozen iso files last night.
[11:16] <Seveas> sizzam, alias bf=bluefish
[11:16] <atila_sendil> so, anyone to help me restore GRUB ?
[11:16] <Seveas> put that line in ~/.bashrc to make it permanent
[11:16] <strike3> crimsun: yes since it hasnt changed. from iwconfig it cant see AP (00.00.00 etc) been here before and got it to work. think it was set mode set channel ? something like that
[11:16] <Severian> kingright, k3b was available in 5.04 and it worked fine for me.
[11:16] <chasmarang> I was using my floppy in "Places" but now when I click on it - it tells me wrong UID even after rebooting several times
[11:16] <d03boy> ty Nick_Hill
[11:16] <sizzam> Seveas:  thanks, will that make a file anywhere, or does it update env or something like that
[11:16] <`NTR> hello
[11:16] <Seveas> sizzam, it's in your environment
[11:16] <sizzam> seveas - thanks again
[11:17] <kingright> where do i find it on on my computer?
[11:17] <Nick_Hill> d03boy, np
[11:17] <geno_> I found a bug, how can I report it to the devs?
[11:17] <crimsun> strike3: you'll probably need to set those with iwconfig
[11:17] <`NTR> can any1 help a n00b plz ?
[11:17] <crimsun> geno_: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[11:17] <Seveas> geno_, that depends on the bug and the package
[11:17] <johns^> `NTR: just ask
[11:18] <cesar> i am trying to save a file in my jumpdrive, but it tell me that i have no permission to write on it...
[11:18] <`NTR> ok :)
[11:18] <geno_> crimsun: Thanks, it's a GNOME theme that made everything bug for a while and now some of my fonts are fucked up
[11:18] <kingright> Severian where do i find it on my computer?
[11:18] <Dr_Fate> I guess the guy who updates the ubuntuguide quit?
[11:18] <chasmarang> Hello!  Can I ask somebody for some help?
[11:18] <Seveas> geno_, where did you get the theme from?
[11:18] <zim> hi all
[11:18] <geno_> Seveas: I think it's a default theme, "qt"
[11:19] <Seveas> geno_, the qt_gtk bug is already known
[11:19] <zim> just a quick BASH ?
[11:19] <geno_> Sevas: I had to restart on KDE and wait a while for GNOME to start until it was ok
[11:19] <geno_> Seveas: Oh, ok thanks
[11:19] <`NTR> when i try 2 install ubuntu i get past all the partition bit, then on the next bit, sumthing about the base, i get this error " The debootstrap programe exited with an error (return value 23) "
[11:19] <alekz> hi, can someone recommend me a pkg to use my hp scanner ?
[11:19] <geno_> Seveas: It just looks so good and it's buggy :(
[11:19] <zim> need to backup a home folder less all the jpgs what is the best way
[11:19] <Seveas> `NTR, check the md5sum of your iso and cd
[11:19] <geno_> How can I change my GNOME menu fonts? It got smaller for some reason.
[11:19] <`NTR> ummm, the what ?
[11:20] <Seveas> zim tar -c --exclude '*.jpg' -zf /tmp/backup.tar.gz ~
[11:20] !alindeman:*! Hi all!  New channel created to monitor the multitude of problems across the internet (level3 last night, cogent recently): ##netstatus
[11:20] <chasmarang> Hi Seveas! Can you help me?
[11:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell `NTR about verify
[11:20] <zim> ty how would you for JPG and jpg
[11:20] <Jowi> alekz: i think there is one called hplip...
[11:21] <PupenoL> Hello.
[11:21] <perre> hi, can somebody help me? i am trying to install plugins for firefox, to enable viewing quicktime, realplayer and windows media, what is the best option?
[11:21] <PupenoL> Is there a standard way to specify what loopback devices to create at boot time ?
[11:21] <alekz> let me check Jowi thanks
[11:21] <Seveas> PupenoL, you need only one loopback device: lo
[11:21] <Jowi> !info hplip
[11:21] <ubotu> hplip: (HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (hplip) - GUI), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.5-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 58 kB, Installed size: 508 kB
[11:21] <dewd> guys, is it possible to use the Breezy LiveCD to install Ubuntu on the harddisk?
[11:21] <crimsun> dewd: no.
[11:22] <Seveas> dewd, no
[11:22] <PupenoL> Seveas: I am taking about /dev/loopN for filesystems, not network interfaces
[11:22] <geno_> http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capture7dk.jpg
[11:22] <Seveas> `NTR, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto?highlight=%28md5sum%29
[11:22] <dewd> any known hacks to do that?
[11:22] <Seveas> PupenoL, right...
[11:22] <geno_> My font is small
[11:22] <zim> Seveas ty how would you for JPG and jpg
[11:22] <Seveas> PupenoL, just put them in fstab with -o loop
[11:22] <perre> hi, can somebody help me? i am trying to install plugins for firefox, to enable viewing quicktime, realplayer and windows media, what is the best option?
[11:22] <Seveas> zim tar -c --exclude '*.{jpg,JPG}' -zf /tmp/backup.tar.gz ~
[11:22] <dewd> thanks guys
[11:22] <Seveas> (if i remember correctly
[11:23] <zim> you are a star
[11:23] <zim> ty
[11:23] <GigaClon> perre, w32codecs
[11:23] <arentie> Hello everyone
[11:23] <PupenoL> Seveas: oh! thanks.
[11:23] <perre> where do i get them?
[11:23] <arentie> I've upgraded to Ubuntu 5.10 on an old Compaq ML330
[11:23] <arentie> The Compaq has a raid array built-into it
[11:24] <Nick_Hill> go_play, Any sucess?
[11:24] <coolaj86> bleh... when you tell someone to mv YOUR_FILE.bak to YOUR_FILE you wouldn't think they'd type it verbatim... but they do
[11:24] <Dreezard> hi everyone
[11:24] <geno_> Can anyone help me with my small GNOME menu font? http://img475.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capture15vw.jpg
[11:24] <derchilligephil|> need help with ntfs
[11:25] <arentie> Since there's a newer kernel in 5.10, I receive an error that my kernel at /dev/ida/c0d0p1 does not exist
[11:25] <derchilligephil|> cant set the user right
[11:25] <derchilligephil|> s
[11:25] <Nick_Hill> geno_, May be to do with the dpi setting
[11:25] <cevizoglu> is there a way in gaim to move contacts into the gnome-panel?
[11:25] <geno_> NIck_HIll: The 96 dpi?
[11:25] <Seveas> cevizoglu, not that I know of
[11:26] <Nick_Hill> geno_, yes
[11:26] <Seveas> derchilligephil|, paste your current fstab (or the line with which you try to mount it) on the pastebin
[11:26] <Nick_Hill> geno_, Try 100dpi for bigger font.
[11:26] <geno_> Nick_HIll: It became like that because of the qt_gtk bug, I went into KDE and modified some font settings and went back into GNOME and saw that and I then remove my KDE changes
[11:27] <`NTR> sevas, is this thing spose 2 just open another browser page or im spose 2 be downloading sumthing rite ?
[11:28] <Nick_Hill> In Gnome or KDE, how do you get international characters? In windows, you can use ctrl+nnnn for the character.
[11:28] <geno_> Nick_Hil: Thanks! It worked at 104 dpi! Can you tell what your dpi is if it's the default you have?
[11:28] <chasmarang> Hi Nick_Hill!  Can you help me?
[11:28] <Seveas> Nick_Hill, in gnome: <ctrl><shift>unicode-code or any other option you set in the keyboard preferences
[11:28] <Nick_Hill> chasmarang, Ask the question, If I or someone else can help...
[11:28] <chasmarang> I was using my floppy in "Places" but now when I click on it - it tells me wrong UID even after rebooting several times...  And my "Nautilus" has been quiting.
[11:29] <Nick_Hill> Seveas, thansk.
[11:29] <senecastudent> Hello everyone
[11:29] <vbgunz> hello everyone, Does anyone know of the command to clean off the downloaded packages? I've installed several packages and would like to clean up... What command should I be looking for?
[11:30] <Nick_Hill> chasmarang, Do you think you have made any changes which may have changed your log-in name or UID? or have you created a second user and trying to access floppy through second user?
[11:30] <strike3_> crimsun:took mac filtering off and put ssid bcast on - rebooted router. set iwconfig name mode and channel. still nothing.  seem to remember a scan command - what is it
[11:30] <Tonik> vbgunz, sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives -rf
[11:30] <Seveas> vbgunz, apt-get clean to clean out the cache
[11:30] <shale> i installed breezy on a generic laptop and the x server won't start, but i have no idea what kind of video card is in it... any tips on getting X to run?
[11:30] <Seveas> Tonik, that is dangerous...
[11:31] <Seveas> vbgunz, debfoster to remove packages you don't want
[11:31] <chasmarang> Nick_Hill -> Nope!
[11:31] <vbgunz> thank you both Tonik and Seveas!
[11:31] <Nick_Hill> shale, at console, lspci
[11:31] <Tonik> I never knew there was a different way :)
[11:31] <bluefrog-10> is there a clean way to change uid and gid (not talking of /etc/passwd)?
[11:31] <vbgunz> I will look into both options now
[11:31] <shale> thx Nick_Hill
[11:31] <senecastudent> does anyone here know how to make a boot diskette from windows?
[11:32] <chasmarang> Vindows!
[11:32] <vbgunz> oh sorry, Seveas doing a force removal of all contents in the apt-get/cache dir is a bad idea?
[11:32] <daysleper> Wintendo
[11:32] <Seveas> vbgunz, it's what apt-get clean does, but with caution
[11:32] <crimsun> strike3_: iwlist scan
[11:32] <kingright> whats a good  BitTorrent Client for ubuntu?
[11:32] <chasmarang> I've come to vipe your vindows
[11:32] <Seveas> senecastudent, format the floppy and tick "create boot floppy" in the dialog
[11:32] <daysleper> kingright, Azureus
[11:33] <Seveas> of in the dosprompt: format /s
[11:33] <vbgunz> Seveas: ahh, thank you! and thank you Tonik!
[11:33] <kingright> but my ram is only 128
[11:33] <Nick_Hill> chasmarang, I don't know enough about Gnome to be sure the tests I can think of will yield a result. Perhaps try #gnome ?
[11:33] <daysleper> kingright, oh
[11:33] <kingright> and i dont think i have java
[11:33] <kingright> i have 5.04
[11:33] <strike3_> crimsun: no scan results
[11:33] <senecastudent> Seveas > that only allows it to boot windows based CDs does it?
[11:33] <dhjohnson3> i'm having trouble with my ubuntu machine locking up and having to do a hard reboot
[11:33] <dewd> what about the "Ubuntu Express" project? Can I use it to install from a LiveCD?
[11:33] <Seveas> senecastudent, yeah
[11:33] <Jowi> kingright: btdownloadcurses is VERY lightweight
[11:33] <bluefrog-10> is there a clean way to change uid and gid of the breezy install created user (not talking of /etc/passwd)?
[11:34] <Seveas> bluefrog-10, no
[11:34] <kingright> so and other good ones i like bitcomet but dont know if there is on for linux
[11:34] <Jowi> kingright: it got no fancy options though :)
[11:34] <`NTR> ok... how am i spose 2 download this  MD5SUMS
[11:34] <bluefrog-10> k ty. let's edit passwd
[11:34] <Dreezard> I've got a little problem with samba here. I've had samba-common installed to gain access to a win network and it worked well. But since I installed the samba package it asks me for authorisation with a name and a password. But I've set no pass on the win machine. Can sb tell me how to bypass that?
[11:34] <kingright> does it have mult d/ls?
[11:34] <Dreezard> ok sth went wrong
[11:34] <Welly> just looking at the packages.ubuntu.com site - php4 ihas a few dependancies.. it says libapache2-mod-php4 OR libapache-mod-php4
[11:35] <Welly> how do i specify libapache-mod-php4?
[11:35] <bluefrog-10> dreezard: do you the administrator password on windows?
[11:35] <kingright> also i need good codec for linux avi divx mpg the works
[11:35] <bluefrog-10> dreezard: do you know the administrator password on windows?
[11:35] <Elsan> My Rhythmbox won't work at all under GNOME, as soon as it starts, it closes! It worked very well the time I started it with KDE.
[11:35] <fonsken> someone else encountering problems with archive.ubuntu.com?
[11:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kingright about w32codecs
[11:35] <Dreezard> There is no admin password set (I know I know... that's bad, but its not my machine)
[11:35] <dhjohnson3> kingright, is there anything wrong with w32codecs?
[11:36] <kingright> whats that?
[11:36] <`psycho> hi ppl
[11:36] <dhjohnson3> fonsken, what's your problem?
[11:36] <Jowi> kingright: w32codecs is "the works" you're looking for. checkthe link that ubotu sent you
[11:36] <`psycho> is there a way to read what PCI specs i have on board?
[11:36] <darkstarshadow> does any one know how to setup my inet4 on lo ?
[11:36] <`NTR> no1 knows then :(
[11:36] <nalioth> kingright: check your prvate messages
[11:36] <`psycho> i mean if i have the pci 2.1 or 2.2 standard
[11:37] <SigmaX> any tips on what to delete first if my server's / partition is full to the brim, and /var is on a different partition?
[11:37] <kingright> ty
[11:37] <Nick_Hill> darkstarshadow, can you ping 127.0.0.1?
[11:37] <dhjohnson3> kingright, go to the ubuntu wiki site and look up RestrictedFormats
[11:37] <darkstarshadow> i try
[11:37] <Jowi> SigmaX: /tmp maybe?
[11:37] <vbgunz> Seveas, I did the "sudo apt-get clean" and I don't see much of a difference and the Trash is full... I just entered "debfoster --help" but I don't have it. Should I install it?
[11:37] <Seveas> yes
[11:37] <SigmaX> jowi: already did.  Nothin there
[11:37] <darkstarshadow> Nick_Hill: no I cnat
[11:37] <darkstarshadow> cant*
[11:37] <dhjohnson3> kingright, it will tell you how to get that stuff working
[11:37] <vbgunz> Seveas: sorry, Trash is empty...
[11:37] <kingright> how do i work cdrecord?
[11:37] <kingright> ok
[11:37] <fonsken> the connection to archive.ubuntu.com is timing out...
[11:38] <PupenoL> I need to ask again. How do I create a loopback device file (losetup /dev/loop0 /home/pupeno.img) at boot time automatically ?
[11:38] <kingright> my internet is slow in ubuntu
[11:38] <PupenoL> This is for latter use with dm-crypt.
[11:38] <dhjohnson3> kingright, how so?
[11:38] <Nick_Hill> darkstarshadow, I don't know about front ends, but the settings to bring up lo (the local ethernet) are in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:38] <Jowi> SigmaX: if you have several kernels + modules installed but you only use one, that can save you 100s of megabyte
[11:38] <crimsun> strike3_: does it need firmware?
[11:38] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm getting an error when I try to watch a video clip in firefox at the CNN web page.  I have mozilla-mplayer installed.  What else do I need?
[11:38] <`psycho> anyone ?
[11:38] <`psycho> :S
[11:38] <kingright> i have a 5/mb connets and most page load slow or will not load
[11:38] <SigmaX> Aha!  There.  I did apt-get clean and now I have 20 MB of breathing space... apt-get remove xlibs should work now... don't need it ;-)
[11:38] <Seveas> PupenoL, look at cryptsetup
[11:39] <derchilligephil|> why is "cp /media/windows" "/mp3" not working?
[11:39] <dhjohnson3> is anyone having trouble with ubuntu totally locking up and having to do a hard reboot?
[11:39] <Nick_Hill> darkstarshadow, Should contain auto lo  and iface lo inet loopback
[11:39] <PupenoL> Seveas: I had, I don't see any option on /etc/crypttab that would allow me to do this.
[11:39] <kingright> i did but then i reinstalled it
[11:39] <SigmaX> dhjohnson3:  My Kubuntu has done that a few times
[11:40] <darkstarshadow> Nick_Hill: yes it does
[11:40] <`psycho> Seveas, hi remember me ?
[11:40] <`psycho> :>
[11:40] <dhjohnson3> kingright, i think that there are some tweaks for firefox to make thing run faster...i'm just not sure what they are ;)
[11:40] <nicks68> dhjonson3: Yes. then i have the screansaver activated
[11:40] <Nick_Hill> darkstarshadow, try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:40] <`NTR> why cant i install this thing :((((
[11:40] <kingright> i know
[11:40] <ggibeau> how do i setup my bluetooth keyboard and mouse?
[11:40] <vbgunz> dhjohnson3: you can try switching to your console and entering "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" to quickly restart the system...
[11:40] <SigmaX> vbgun: If he's havin' the same problem as me, switching to the console is unresponsive
[11:41] <SigmaX> I've only had it happen a couple times though.
[11:41] <nicholaspaul> anyone know if Ubuntu kernel supports TUN?
[11:41] <rem_> anyone had firefox take up a lot of cpu time after a while and crash sometimes with ubuntu ?
[11:41] <strike3_> crimsun:?
[11:41] <jcassidy> sean
[11:41] <vbgunz> SigmaX: wow, I had it happen a few times too on Hoary though... Breezy has been good so far...
[11:41] <Hackphil> hi to all
[11:41] <trans_err> any idea why my entire computer would crash everytime I try to compile a kernel?
[11:41] <chasmarang> Nick_Hill -> Thanks I can try that!
[11:41] <dhjohnson3> nick68, did you have the problem after you disabled the screen saver?
[11:41] <`NTR> rem_, firefox does that with me and im on windows at,
[11:42] <`NTR> think its just them
[11:42] <rem_> ok
[11:42] <vbgunz> SigmaX: So, your freeze was so bad you had no choice but to boot hard?
[11:42] <darkstarshadow> nick_hill: i did that
[11:42] <darkstarshadow> nothing
[11:42] <Hackphil> I'm a newbie and I try to install  a new theme but I can't
[11:42] <Nick_Hill> darkstarshadow, if you do ifconfig what interfaces are listed?
[11:43] <Hackphil> who could help me?
[11:43] <Jowi> Hackphil: a theme for what?
[11:43] <jcassidy> sean
[11:43] <vbgunz> SigmaX: I mean, Ctrl+Alt+F1 doesn't let you switch to the console? I never had a problem switching to the console like that...
[11:43] <darkstarshadow> ath0 eth0 lo sit0
[11:43] <Hackphil> for my system
[11:43] <vbgunz> SigmaX: Even when Ubuntu froze up...
[11:43] <SigmaX> vbgunz: yeah.  Didn't tinker much with it though.  I think it was induced by Monodevelop; pretty unstable.  Don't ask me how.
[11:43] <Jowi> Hackphil: window borders (metacity) or for the buttons (gtk+) or for gdm?
[11:43] <rem_> Breezy seems great ! ...and I finally got a good quality sound again, after loosing it when switching to warty and hoary ,, :)
[11:43] <JovianJake> hi
[11:43] <nicholaspaul> ANyone know anything about TUN?
[11:43] <SigmaX> vbgunz:  I didn't try ssh'ing in or anything to see if everything was locked out, or just my keyboard or something
[11:44] <`NTR> hellllooooooooooooooo
[11:44] <Nick_Hill> darkstarshadow, OK, local interface is up. What address is it on?
[11:44] <`NTR> can any1 tell me why when i try 2 download  MD5SUMS it just opens in my browser
[11:44] <darkstarshadow> nick_hill: inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[11:44] <darkstarshadow> Nick_hill: no inet4
[11:44] <SigmaX> Breezy has been fairly good to me so far.  wonderful after coming from SuSE... SuSE was torture to a Debian-lover like me, though it took me 4 months to figure that out.
[11:44] <vbgunz> SigmaX: I am new but I remember on Hoary when the system froze I could switch to console... I thought that was beautiful but I guess you won't always be able to switch huh?
[11:44] <nalioth> `NTR: because it's a text file
[11:44] <confrey> hi everybody
[11:44] <`NTR> i seeee
[11:44] <irox> hi, how do i install php4 instead of php 5?
[11:45] <irox> synaptic only shows me 5
[11:45] <rem_> switch...or ssh
[11:45] <SigmaX> vbgun:  Nope.  cntrl-alt-backspace didn't work either.  I don't know if it was on the kernel level or not... it's just something I haven't seen since Windows ;-)
[11:45] <confrey> I need some help to connect with gprs; I don't know the exact device of irda0
[11:45] <Nick_Hill> darkstarshadow, try sudo ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
[11:45] <nicks68> SigmaX: Have you tried to ssh yore computer then it hangs? Then i do that and run "top" then cpu is 100% on the screensaver. Are Ypure scrensaver activeted then it hangs?
[11:45] <`NTR> and is  MD5SUMS a text file tooooo ????
[11:45] <SigmaX> confrey hi
[11:45] <irox> anybody knows ?
[11:45] <confrey> hi
[11:46] <felipe_> hola
[11:46] <`NTR>  MD5SUMS.gnp*
[11:46] <felipe_> una ayudilla x favor!
[11:46] <vbgunz> Has anybody heard about the vmware player just released today? It is sort of like the flash player and it basically allows you to take your VM with you... making it in a sense portable... I wish Ubuntu could implement something like this on a legal level... Live, VM, Install on one CD would be KILLER :P
[11:46] <Seveas> !es
[11:46] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:46] <derchilligephil|> how can i see how long the copying will take
[11:46] <`NTR> gpg* ffs
[11:46] <SigmaX> nicks68: That very well could have been the problem.  I didn't try to SSH in, though I thought of it.  I'm pretty sure it happened at least once from the screensaver
[11:46] <Jowi> Hackphil: usually you download a themename.tar.gz file, open it with file-roller and unpack it to /home/username/.themes/ . That usually work with all themes even if you get errors when you try the "install new theme" button...
[11:46] <derchilligephil|> a little statistic or s/t
[11:46] <derchilligephil|> in console
[11:46] <derchilligephil|> ssh!
[11:46] <kingright> andone know where i can find the firefox speed tweaks at?
[11:46] <nicholaspaul> !tun
[11:46] <ubotu> nicholaspaul: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:46] <vbgunz> SigmaX: yeah, Windows when it locks up bad, you usually have no choice but to boot hard...
[11:46] <JovianJake> is there a way to change the first day of the week from sunday to monday in the small calendar that appears when I clic on the gnome tray clock?
[11:47] <irox> hi, how do i install php4 instead of php 5?
[11:47] <irox> synaptic only shows me 5
[11:47] <Seveas> apt-get install php4
[11:47] <nicholaspaul> hi irox
[11:47] <ToXedVirus> #/j ubuntu-de
[11:47] <Seveas> enable universe for it
[11:47] <ToXedVirus> oh shit
[11:47] <irox> how do i do that ?
[11:47] <SigmaX> vbgunz: right.  That and the viruses... I forget how much better off I am until a friend calls me up to clean their XP box from 75 viruses now and then ;-)
[11:47] <Nick_Hill> JovianJake, If no-one here can help witht hat question, ask on #gnome
[11:47] <dhjohnson3> kingright, check out ubuntuguide.org
[11:47] <Seveas> ToXedVirus, the other way around works better :)
[11:47] <nicholaspaul> irox, type that in a terminal
[11:47] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[11:47] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:47] <derchilligephil|> is there a possibility
[11:47] <JovianJake> I will, Nick_Hill , thanx
[11:47] <nicholaspaul> actually, irox - sudo apt-get install php4
[11:48] <Seveas> dhjohnson3, please read that
[11:48] <vbgunz> I've been using Windows for over 9 years... Almost 10! Only once did I ever find a virus on the system and it was like 85 of them or something... It was crazy :P
[11:48] <irox> couldn't find pacakage php4
[11:48] <SigmaX> vbgunz:  I got lucky too while I was a Windows user.  I can't help but wonder if the difference was on the ISP level.
[11:48] <Seveas> irox, enable universe for it
[11:49] <irox> what is that
[11:49] <irox> and how do i enable it
[11:49] <kingright> ok i will
[11:49] <Seveas> !tell irox about repositories
[11:49] <Seveas> kingright, don't
[11:49] <darkstarshadow> Nick_Hill: thanks, thats the exact command i was looking for
[11:49] <Seveas> ubuntuguide.org sucks
[11:49] <`NTR> im really lost :(
[11:49] <kingright> dont what?
[11:49] <vbgunz> SigmaX: maybe, not sure to be exact but I've been happy in just little over a month brand new to the Linux world through Ubuntu... It is the distro I've been looking for :)
[11:49] <dhjohnson3> Seveas, ubuntuguide is, like, a great place to start to figure stuff out.  ubuntuguide also explains that one should be careful with doing anything and everything listed on it.  no need to get a bee in your bonnet about something so trivial
[11:49] <rem_> Tox sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list then "Esc"+i to write then take the # of in front of the universe lines then "esc" and :wq!
[11:49] <SigmaX> 'NTR: heh; you'll get used to it.
[11:49] <irox> knx
[11:50] <Seveas> dhjohnson3, ubuntuguide is a piece of crap that explains nothing
[11:50] <Seveas> and the author does not even try to cooperate with others
[11:50] <`NTR> cant get it installed to get used 2 it ffs :S
[11:50] <kingright> y does it sux?
[11:50] <Seveas> !tell kingright about ubuntuguide
[11:50] <dhjohnson3> Seveas, it sounds more like you have some sort of personality conflict with the author
[11:50] <Seveas> dhjohnson3, not at all
[11:50] <SigmaX> vbgunz: Well welcome to the party!  1 1/2 years here.  Tried everything form Mandrake to RedHat to SuSE, debian-based is by far my favorites.
[11:51] <vbgunz> Seveas: Ubuntuguide is really nice, I still use it and think there is nothing like it. Ubuntu should make an official guide just like it or something. It was very straight forward and to the point. I mean if you wanted to do something, it would tell you exactly how to do it. I mean, in a sense I don't need explained to me what it is I know I want or do I ;)
[11:51] <Seveas> ask the docteam or any of the people who wrecked their system with it
[11:51] <nicholaspaul> seveas - do you know if Ubuntu supports TUN out of the box?
[11:51] <dhjohnson3> Seveas, okay
[11:51] <`NTR> !tell `NTR how to install ubuntu
[11:51] <kingright> ok ok
[11:51] <SigmaX> vbgunz: Got Kubuntu right now; no complaints.
[11:51] <Seveas> vbgunz, system -> help / help.ubuntu.com
[11:51] <Elsan> My Rhythmbox won't work at all under GNOME, as soon as it starts, it closes! It worked very well the only time I started it with KDE.
[11:51] <`NTR> lol
[11:51] <Seveas> it's based on ubutnuguide, but without all the crap...
[11:51] <vbgunz> Seveas: I will have to check it ;P
[11:52] <vbgunz> SigmaX: I installed KDE and almost went nuts
[11:52] <Seveas> and created by a team who actually know what they talk about
[11:52] <SigmaX> Elsan: you should start it from a console and see what erros it gives when it crashed
[11:52] <rem_> Elsan start it in console /usr/bin/Rhythmbox ull probably see th errors ..
[11:52] <rem_> lol
[11:52] <SigmaX> vbgunz: as in, awesome? or as in, hated it? or as in, didn't work?
[11:52] <nicks68> Has anyone got Mouine to work with ubuntu?
[11:52] <dhjohnson3> Seveas, i'll admit to wreaking my own system after looking at ubuntuguide but it was my fuilt
[11:52] <bathini> Hello friends
[11:52] <dooglus> is there a "scandisk" for reiserfs?
[11:52] <vbgunz> SigmaX: As in hellifying overwhelmius
[11:52] <jrattner1> Where can i find nice icons for programs like XMMS and such...
[11:52] <bathini> I am looking into installing bittorrent
[11:52] <vbgunz> :P
[11:52] <dhjohnson3> ubuntuguide is not totally without merit
[11:53] <bathini> but do not know how
[11:53] <Elsan> rem_: What is the exact command?
[11:53] <bathini> please help me out
[11:53] <rain`> Elsan: just type it in console
[11:53] <SigmaX> vbgunz: lol.  It took me a while myself, but now I'm more productive in KDE then anything else.  Even though it's possible the slowest desktop environment I've ever used ;-)
[11:53] <dhjohnson3> can anyone tell me how to keep ubuntu from locking up and having to do hard reboots?
[11:54] <SigmaX> dhjohnson3: does it happen with your screensaver? Or just randomly? Or what?
[11:54] <Elsan> bash: /usr/bin/Rhythmbox: Aucun fichier ou rpertoire de ce type
[11:54] <vbgunz> KDE I wouldn't say is hard *but* like I just starting out, I wish to focus more on using the system than tweaking every nook and cranny to every pixel of paint on the screen... KDE is like the HULK of massive options... I am cool with Gnome ;)
[11:54] <Seveas> Elsan, /usr/bin/rhythmbox
[11:54] <Elsan> Same thing, still bugs as soon as it starts
[11:54] <dhjohnson3> SigmaX, several times with the screen saver, but i think that it's also happened randomly
[11:55] <vbgunz> SigmaX: Maybe for the moment until I start yearning for more I will keep in mind KDE
[11:55] <rem_> /usr/bin/ry(+TAB) I dont know the exact spelling
[11:55] <Nick_Hill> dhjohnson3, I don't think that is a comon behaviour. If it corresponds with high CPU usage, or when you load a large program, bad memory or bad CPU cooling can be blamed.
[11:55] <chaps0063> Seveas, I agree, ubuntuguide caused me more harm than good.
[11:55] <SigmaX> vbgunz: I get overwhelmed myself now and then, and switch to good ol' gnome for a few weeks.  But I always get homesick for KDE after a bit.
[11:55] <Welly> right, the package php4 has libapache2-mod-php4 OR libapache-mod-php4 as dependancies. by default it chooses libapache2-mod-php4. how do i choose libapache-mod-php4?
[11:55] <rem_> /usr/bin/Ry(+TAB) I dont know the exact spelling
[11:55] <Elsan> GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:141: failed to allocate 1882140476 bytes
[11:55] <jrattner1> Where can i find nice icons for programs like XMMS and such...?
[11:55] <Seveas> Welly, apt-get install libapache-mod-php4
[11:55] <kingright> i cant get jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[11:55] <Welly> lol ok
[11:55] <SigmaX> dhjohnson3: Does it happen often?  I've had it happen to me a couple times, I think just with the screensaver (Don't remember).
[11:55] <Seveas> kingright, java.sun.com has it
[11:55] <chaps0063> kingright, what is it that you are trying to do?
[11:55] <dhjohnson3> Nick_Hill, it didn't happen with hoary
[11:55] <Seveas> kingright, but you probably want a properly packaged .deb file
[11:55] <Welly> Seveas: if i do a apt-get install php4 afterwards, will it see libapache-mod-php4 installed and not try to install any other dependancies?
[11:55] <SigmaX> dhjohnson3: And can you get to the console with cntrl+alt+f1 when it happens?
[11:56] <nicks68> dhjohnson3: I had the same problem, then i disabeld the screensaver then it woked nice again
[11:56] <kingright> the d/l load will not start for me
[11:56] <Elsan> Rhythbox problem when it starts: GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:141: failed to allocate 1882140476 bytes
[11:56] <chaps0063> kingright, http://jdl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=10274
[11:56] <dhjohnson3> SigmaX, did you just disable the screen saver?
[11:56] <dhjohnson3> SigmaX, no console, except remotely, but not even then sometimes
[11:56] <SigmaX> dhjohnson3: I haven't yet; it hasn't given me much greif.  I wanna wait and see if it's connected to my screensaver.
[11:57] <Seveas> kingright, do you mind if I send you a private message?
[11:57] <Elsan> Should I report my bug in the forum since nobody seems to have an answer to it?
[11:57] <osiris001> can anyyone tell me how to change the screen resolution it's only giving the choice of 640 etc and no other sizes
[11:57] <dhjohnson3> SigmaX, is there a new version of the screensaver that i should be looking for?
[11:57] <SigmaX> dhjohnson3: Next time it happens, and you can get in remotely, run 'top' and see if xscreensaver or whatever is taking up all your cpu.
[11:58] <don> hi there, can anybody tell me what type of software is on the Ubuntu - Install-CD? Just main and restricted? Does that mean i can simply give the cd on to my frieds legally?
[11:58] <Welly> wah! and then lib-apache-mod-php4 has a dependancy on apache2-utils :-/ i'm not going to win here, am i?
[11:58] <SigmaX> dhjohnson3: I don't know.  nicks68 just said that his was getting killed by the screensaver, so I figured that could be your problem.
[11:58] <dhjohnson3> SigmaX, i'll do that, but then what?
[11:58] <Seveas> Welly, hmm
[11:58] <Elsan> don: You can give it to anyone.
[11:58] <vbgunz> Fellas, be good, SigmaX, thank you for your time, that was cool, Seveas, thank you too for that pointer in cleaning apt-get and for debfoster, it won't be forgotten ;)
[11:58] <Nick_Hill> osiris001, You can try the Debina xorg configurator sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:58] <SigmaX> vbgunz: cya in the next life
[11:58] <Welly> unreal.. i'm not asking for much
[11:58] <pequatre> hello. when i "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:58] <pequatre> ",  backspace won't work so i can't delete default to replace it. why ?
[11:58] <Seveas> Wellark, it dos not do that for me....
[11:59] <Seveas> Welly*
[11:59] <Elsan> don: Ubuntu is Free Software, and available to you free of charge. It's also Free in the sense of giving you rights of Software Freedom, but you probably knew that already! Unlike many of the other commercial distributions in the free and open source world (Libranet, Lindows, Xandros, Red Hat) the Ubuntu team really does believe that Free software should be free of software licencing charges.
[11:59] <Nick_Hill> osiris001, This will ask you what graphics card, screen res, mouse, keyboard you have
[11:59] <N6REJ> evening all
[11:59] <Elsan> don: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[11:59] <dhjohnson3> SigmaX, ?
[11:59] <osiris001> that totally lost me sorry i'm new to this (about an hour old to be honest)
[12:00] <Elsan> Rhythbox problem when it starts: GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:141: failed to allocate 1882140476 bytes - Should I report in forums?