[12:00] <jrattner1> Where can i find new icons for gnome?
[12:00] <SigmaX> don: you can copy it and give it away to anybody you like.  Welcome to the world of FREE software :-)
[12:00] <queuetue> don: yes, you can give the CD to anyone legally - please do! :)
[12:00] <Seveas> Elsan, how much memory do you have?
[12:00] <Seveas> and how much swap?
[12:00] <N6REJ> Seveas: is there a document yet on the ubuntu-server distro that explains whats been done during install and what remains to be done?
[12:00] <Welly> Seveas: could it be anything to do with how my sources.list is set up?
[12:00] <ubuntu_newbie> what do I write to configure my network card ?
[12:00] <Seveas> N6REJ, ubuntu-base is installed, everything else should be done later
[12:00] <strike3_> crimsun: you still there ?
[12:00] <Seveas> Welly, probably, can you paste it on the pastebin
[12:00] <N6REJ> Seveas: thats with the new server distro?
[12:00] <Welly> yep.. hang about
[12:01] <Elsan> Seveas: 512 Mb, I'm gonna need to upgrade soon for a new game; it worked well on my other computer iwht less memory a year ago with Fedore
[12:01] <Jowi> btw, when upgrading hoary->breezy does apt log anything of what it is doing?
[12:01] <bathini> hello
[12:01] <Nick_Hill> Elsan, bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[12:01] <CungYen_Bakpao> hello
[12:01] <bathini> I am looking for a bittorrent client
[12:01] <bathini> software
[12:01] <don> thanks, what i am wondering: is there any universe/multiverse - software on the cd that prevents me from distributing it?
[12:01] <Seveas> Elsan, you need at least 512mb swap
[12:01] <trans_err> anyone know where I can get lirc module binaries? I can't get lirc to compile--- it bails everytime (yes I do have source/headers)
[12:01] <CungYen_Bakpao> can anyone help me
[12:01] <Seveas> N6REJ, it's not new
[12:01] <trans_err> CungYen_Bakpao: just ask
[12:01] <Seveas> it's just ubuntu
[12:01] <Welly> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/341
[12:01] <Seveas> the cd just has some different packages on it
[12:02] <Elsan> Seveas: Damn, I thought it was gonna be okay with 380 mb like the install said
[12:02] <CungYen_Bakpao> how can I upgrade to Gnome 2.12 in hoary?
[12:02] <Seveas> Wellark, 341 is too low to be current....
[12:02] <Nick_Hill> don, Ubuntu seem conservative about distribution.
[12:02] <N6REJ> Seveas: ok, I was under the impression from the press release that the configuration/install files had been modified.  Thanks.
[12:02] <antisocialboris> is there openSSH on hoary or do i need to d/l it?
[12:02] <Elsan> Seveas: Can I add swap with the normal install?
[12:02] <Welly> Seveas: 341?
[12:02] <fanelia> hi, wich is the postgres depency for ubutnu?
[12:02] <Seveas> Elsan, yes
[12:02] <SigmaX> dhjohnson3: Dunno what to tell ya.  Next time it  happens try logging in remotely and seeing what you can figure out.  Then, I guess, the gurus will tell you to "check your logs"
[12:02] <Welly> oh!
[12:02] <don> NIck_Hill, how do you mean?
[12:02] <Welly> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3416
[12:02] <Seveas> *looking8
[12:02] <Jowi> antisocialboris: sudo apt-get install ssh :)
[12:03] <Elsan> Seveas: If I upgrade my memory later, I figure it would need more swap?
[12:03] <Nick_Hill> don, Ubuntu err on the side of caution
[12:03] <Seveas> sources.list looks fine, how are you installing it?
[12:03] <chaps0063> what do i need to install to be able to ssh to my machine?
[12:03] <Seveas> Elsan, no, the more memory, the less swap :)
[12:03] <sizzam> what can i type in a gnome-terminal window to lock my screen?   i tried 'lock' but thats not it
[12:03] <Seveas> chaps0063, openssh-server
[12:03] <chaps0063> its just openssh-server, correct.
[12:03] <N6REJ> Seveas: Is there a place you can dl the cd cover?
[12:03] <Welly> apt-get install libapache-mod-php4
[12:03] <chaps0063> Seveas, thanks..
[12:03] <Seveas> sizzam, xscreensaveer-command --lock
[12:03] <Nick_Hill> don, For example, mp3's  may cause patent problems so MP3's are not supported in ubuntu CDs.
[12:04] <Seveas> N6REJ, wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[12:04] <sizzam> Seveas, thanks again
[12:04] <Nick_Hill> don, At least, in America and Japan
[12:04] <N6REJ> Seveas: ty.
[12:04] <Jowi> chaps0063: if you install package "ssh" you get the server and the client.
[12:04] <ubuntu_newbie> what do I write to configure my network card ?
[12:04] <Elsan> Seveas: Seveas: So right now, I neeed 512? I won'T need to change if I upgrade my RAM to 1Gb?
[12:04] <don> (happy to live in europe)
[12:04] <chaps0063> Jowi, ok, cool.
[12:04] <Nick_Hill> don, Thankfully, the EU directive threatening to legalise sw patents in Europe has been killed off with much hard work.
[12:04] <kingright> what else can i use besides firefox?
[12:04] <Seveas> Elsan, I always suggest to keep ram+swap at around a gigabyte unless you do heavy A/V editing
[12:04] <don> so you mean there is no software by default on the install cds that prevents me from distributing?
[12:05] <Nick_Hill> kingright, konqueror dillo
[12:05] <Nick_Hill> kingright, epiphany
[12:05] <don> NIck_Hill,i know, i have written emails to some EP members...
[12:05] <Jowi> kingright: graphical: mozilla, konqueror, dillo, epiphany. non-gui: lynx, elinks
[12:05] <erisco> hello, i am trying to set up a .tbz i am unsure of what it is, or what i do with it to make it work (it is an application). I think i need to compile it (though i do not know what that is or how to do it)
[12:05] <Elsan> Seveas: I see, so, I can take 1Gb off my Windows partition and add it to swap without any problems with the cd install?
[12:05] <erisco> brb
[12:05] <Seveas> don "You are legally entitled and encouraged to copy, share and redistribute the CD for yourself and your friends. Share the spirit of Ubuntu"
[12:05] <Seveas> (quote from the CD cover)
[12:05] <kingright> cuz i can only get to hafe of the net
[12:06] <Seveas> Elsan, you have no swap at all now?
[12:06] <senecastudent> anyone know where I can find the floppy images for ubuntu?
[12:06] <Seveas> senecastudent, nowhere
[12:06] <don> Sevas: cool - has this CD the same content as the downloadable iso?
[12:06] <Elsan> Seveas: 380 mb like the install told me, I had freed some space withj PArtition Magic before(which doesn't work anymore for some reason)
[12:06] <Seveas> don, yes
[12:06] <don> @all, thanks a lot
[12:06] <don> good night.
[12:07] <Seveas> Elsan, cat /proc/swaps
[12:07] <Seveas> Elsan, cat /proc/meminfo
[12:07] <kkathman> Greetings, I wonder if I could get a little help diagnosing a network problem, please?
[12:07] <Elsan> Seveas: I want to know if I can safely remove space from my Win partiton, I don't want to reformat again, I did it lots of time before
[12:07] <Seveas> and put the output on the pastebin
[12:07] <Seveas> Elsan, partition magic seems to be good at that
[12:07] <Nick_Hill> kkathman, Go ahead and ask the question someone may run with it, but please be descriptive as you can.
[12:07] <Seveas> and you can easily add partitions to the swap pool
[12:07] <don> Elsan, you mean resizing?
[12:08] <Elsan> Seveas: It tells me it can't find drive number and I can't start it anymore since I installed Ubuntu.; Yes, resize with the Ubuntu partman CD utility
[12:08] <Nick_Hill> Elsan, If it is fat32, you can use parted
[12:08] <pablo_> Alguein con quien poder hablar en Espaol?
[12:08] <kkathman> I had a power outage, which caused my linux box to go down. When I restarted, it hung during the boot on bringing up the network connection, and SMB failed. All my other computers are ok, and the connection point is good. The ethernet lights on the card are blinking
[12:08] <dhjohnson3> thanks for the help, everyone
[12:08] <nicks68> I found the bad screensaver! Is Antispect.
[12:09] <Elsan> Everyone helping me:P: It's NTFS, I can't make it FAT32 since Partition Magic does not work
[12:09] <dhjohnson3> nick68, was that for me?
[12:09] <kkathman> when I do an ifup eth0, it says eth0 is already configured, yet in the system settings it reports "Disabled network device"
[12:09] <Jowi> kkathman: sudo network-admin, enable eth0
[12:09] <Seveas> !es
[12:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:09] <don> kkathman: have u tried a fsck?
[12:09] <nicks68> dhjohnson3; yes.
[12:09] <herrpoonstrikes> hi can someone help me, im trying to setup firestarter but not sure excatly what i need to do to protect myself
[12:09] <dhjohnson3> nick68, cool--how did you figure that out?
[12:10] <Elsan> Seveas: Is it safe to resize NTFS with partman?
[12:10] <Seveas> herrpoonstrikes, you don't need protection on a default Ubuntu setup
[12:10] <herrpoonstrikes> well ive been checlking my
[12:10] <herrpoonstrikes> auth.log
[12:10] <Seveas> herrpoonstrikes, Ubuntu is safe by default :)
[12:10] <dhjohnson3> herrpoonstrikes, what services do you have running?
[12:10] <kkathman> Jowl it says network-admin command not found
[12:10] <herrpoonstrikes> servies....
[12:10] <senecastudent> I just resize NTFS with partition magic a week ago
[12:10] <Seveas> Elsan, no idea, never tried....
[12:10] <nicks68> dhjohnson3: try the preview of all the scrensavers. ...
[12:10] <herrpoonstrikes> well i forwarded a few ports
[12:11] <herrpoonstrikes> i use ssh
[12:11] <herrpoonstrikes> and i have a webserver
[12:11] <herrpoonstrikes> anyway i checked auth.loog and it seems someone was treytigng to hack me!
[12:11] <Elsan> Seveas: :/ Thanks anyway for the rest of the help!
[12:11] <Jowi> kkathman: did you install ubuntu as server? network-admin is standard in gnome.
[12:11] <dhjohnson3> nick68, i actually had several of them lock up my machine, but none of them consistently
[12:11] <moquist> Seveas: Am I on the right track with this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3417 ?  After reading a bunch of code I just slapped that together to try it out...
[12:11] <Seveas> herrpoonstrikes, just keep your passwords secure :)
[12:11] <Elsan> Is it safe to resize NTFS with the partiton utility form the install CD, anyone?
[12:12] <herrpoonstrikes> yeh i mean
[12:12] <herrpoonstrikes> they didt get in
[12:12] <herrpoonstrikes> but u never know!
[12:12] <sorush20> help help help
[12:12] <herrpoonstrikes> im worried now :/
[12:12] <kkathman> Jowl I just ran sudo network-admin and it came uo
[12:12] <kkathman> uo
[12:12] <_jason> Elsan:  I haven't done it, but you should defrag the drive in windows a couple of times first
[12:12] <kkathman> up
[12:12] <senecastudent> Elsan > use partition magic
[12:12] <Seveas> moquist, I never really did such a thing myself before, but it looks ok
[12:12] <kkathman> Jowl what was I to do at this point?
[12:12] <Elsan> senecastudent: It doesn't work since I installed Ubuntu
[12:13] <dhjohnson3> nick68, did that particular screensaver kill you more than once?
[12:13] <chaps0063> sorush20, if you have a question, ask it.
[12:13] <nicks68> dhjohnson3: I just tryed it om my laptop. its woring in them. Whats is youre grafic-card?
[12:13] <Jowi> kkathman: sorry, i didn't really follow you. did you or did you not get the network-admin running?
[12:13] <moquist> Seveas: ok; thx for looking at it.  I just wanted to be sure I was doing what you had in mind.
[12:13] <herrpoonstrikes> my pwords are a bit crap at the moment
[12:13] <Seveas> moquist, you would need conf_module.sh btw
[12:13] <herrpoonstrikes> what type of pwrod do u suggest i have?
[12:13] <dhjohnson3> nick68, uhh i dunno ;)
[12:13] <chaps0063> herrpoonstrikes, a good one.
[12:14] <kkathman> Jowl yes it is now running, and I see the eth0 connection
[12:14] <herrpoonstrikes> ive read stiff aobut entropy
[12:14] <Elsan> I think I will just remove Ubuntu and then resize my swap and everything else
[12:14] <kkathman> Jowl it reports "The interface etho is active"
[12:14] <moquist> Seveas: line 5 of confmodule.sh says it's obsolete and I shouldn't use it. ?
[12:14] <nicks68> dhjohnson3: yes. Antispect alwasy kills this computer.
[12:14] <chaps0063> herrpoonstrikes, mine is >10 characters, upper/lower letters, numbers, symbols.
[12:14] <dhjohnson3> herrpoonstrikes, one that has many different "types" of characters
[12:14] <dianwei> Hey, new question... It says certain files are locked to me because they belong to root. How can I get the computer to let me use them?
[12:14] <herrpoonstrikes> right ok
[12:14] <herrpoonstrikes> im going to work on one tonight then
[12:15] <herrpoonstrikes> so basically how ever many ports i hav e opne
[12:15] <herrpoonstrikes> as long as they dont get my pwrod, im ok?
[12:15] <Jowi> kkathman: click on eth0, then click on the button labeled "enable". if it already is, deactivate it and activate it again. also, check its settings so it is set to dhcp. it might be that you are getting a conflicting ip from your router. you can try to set a static ip to eth0
[12:15] <dhjohnson3> nick68, is there a log for that program?  does it indicate which screensaver was in use?  how do you open the log?
[12:15] <Seveas> moquist, hint: apt-get install debconf-doc && man 7 debconf
[12:15] <herrpoonstrikes> damn need to be registered chaps :(
[12:15] <Seveas> (I;m reading that manpage now, looks quite useful :))
[12:16] <Elsan> How can I give myself complete control over a folder for copy and the like?
[12:16] <kkathman> Jowl Im doing that now
[12:16] <jrattner1> are mp4 and m4p files the same?
[12:16] <CookedGryphon> how do i change thunderbird settings so that it downloads messages off my server and then deletes them from teh server, storign them locally? it did this automatically for the first accoutn i added, then i added a new one and deleted the first, and it jsut reads the messages off the server and leaves them on, it doesn't use the local folders bit
[12:16] <dhjohnson3> jrattner1, what do you think? ;)
[12:16] <Jowi> kkathman: set an ip to the nic that you are sure is not in use. like 192.168.0.152 (if your router is 192.168.0.1)
[12:16] <jrattner1> dhjohnson3, i think they are? but are they?
[12:16] <Jowi> kkathman: also check that your subnetmask is 255.255.255.0
[12:16] <dhjohnson3> no
[12:16] <kkathman> Jowl it just keeps going back and forth
[12:17] <moquist> Seveas: gee, that's a good hint.
[12:17] <kkathman> but it stopped now and says eth0 is active, but in my console there were some messages that came up for some realy
[12:17] <kkathman> reason
[12:17] <nicks68> dhjohnson3: No. i just connet to the computer from my other compurer and list the prosseses
[12:17] <sorush20> I can't save to a location and I get this error   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3419?
[12:17] <dhjohnson3> okay
[12:18] <_wotnarg> what is the package name for the X includes on ubuntu?
[12:18] <Jowi> kkathman: so try a static ip then. might be that your nic is toast, but to make sure you should test your system with a live-cd or if you have other os installed on the machine.
[12:18] <dhjohnson3> nick68, i'm going to look into the screensaver web site
[12:18] <Seveas> _wotnarg, what are you trying to compile?
[12:19] <wotnarg> Seveas: amarok actually, but that doesnt matter really.
[12:19] <sorush20> guys how are you all?
[12:19] <Seveas> wotnarg, amarok is in the repositories no need to compile
[12:19] <Elsan> jrattener: One of them(m4p I think) is an iTunes music store protected file
[12:19] <nicks68> dhjohnson3:You can always trye to preview them
[12:19] <moquist> Seveas: I wonder if setting DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical won't be enough for what I need to do...
[12:19] <wotnarg> Seveas: svn version isnt :)
[12:19] <jrattner1> Do you have to convert m4p files to listen to them in linux or can any of the players handle it?
[12:19] <Seveas> if you insist on compiling yourself: sudo apt-get build-dep amarok
[12:19] <kkathman> ok so when I typed that sudo network-admin at the console, the gnome app came up ok, but in the console it reports: GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbif_composite: assertion 'src != NULL' failed
[12:19] <wotnarg> Seveas: ok, thanks :)
[12:19] <Jowi> hello sorush20, just fine over here. want a beer but forgot to buy any.
[12:20] <Jowi> kkathman: you can disregard that warning
[12:20] <Elsan> Silence.
[12:20] <philip69> help I want to know how to install my device drivers in linux
[12:20] <sorush20> Jowi: thanks for the reply.. so you drink ha.. I can't cause I'm a muslim..
[12:20] <kkathman> Jowl, ok I set that IP address
[12:21] <philip69> help I want to know how to install my device drivers in linux
[12:21] <strike3_> anybody help with wireless card - crimsun was helping but seems to have gone
[12:21] <Jowi> sorush20: oh yes. i'm lucky that way :)
[12:21] <don-o> is there an ubuntu application that will let me listen to other people's iTunes libraries?
[12:22] <Jowi> kkathman: in a terminal: "ping -c 5 192.168.0.1"
[12:22] <kkathman> Jowl ok so do I need to reactivate the eth0 again after I set the IP?
[12:22] <Jowi> kkathman: yes
[12:22] <Elsan> Is it me or is it all silence&
[12:22] <sorush20> I can't save to a location and I get this error   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3419? could someone tell me how to fix this thing
[12:22] <Elsan> How can I give myself complete control over a folder for copy and the like?
[12:23] <kkathman> Jowl I assume you want me to ping my router>
[12:23] <philip69> help I want to know how to install my device drivers in linux
[12:23] <kkathman> when I do that, I get "Destination Host Unreachable"
[12:23] <Jowi> kkathman: ping -c 5 127.0.0.1
[12:24] <balzac> I'm wondering if alien 8.5 is current enough to convert the .rpm files of the lastest open office 2 release
[12:24] <patrickj> hey
[12:24] <balzac> alien 8.51 was suggested to me
[12:24] <patrickj> does anyone know if DW8 will work in wine or anything
[12:24] <patrickj> ?
[12:24] <nalioth> balzac: patience, ooo2 will be here soon
[12:24] <kkathman> Jowl that returns normally
[12:25] <CookedGryphon> does anyone know when openoffice 2 final will be put in the ubuntu repositories?
[12:25] <jrattner1> dpkg --install pack.deb installs a package right?
[12:25] <sorush20> why is it that I am unable to delete file from my /home/sam
[12:25] <Jowi> kkathman: is eth0 visible when you do "ifconfig"?
[12:25] <sorush20> what the hell is going on..
[12:25] <balzac> i already downloaded it, but i actually meant to ask in #openoffice.org
[12:25] <balzac> sorry
[12:25] <Seveas> jrattner1, yes
[12:25] <kkathman> Jowl yes its visible, and has the assigned IP address I gave it
[12:25] <moquist> sorush20: pm?
[12:25] <Jowi> kkathman: and the mask is?
[12:26] <kkathman> Mask is 255.255.255.0
[12:26] <zodoz> could anyone tell me how to properly configure xorg for my amd64 laptop?
[12:26] <kkathman> Bcast: 192.168.248.255
[12:26] <balzac> what are the drawbacks to installing software outside the synaptic package manager?
[12:26] <Jowi> kkathman: is your router address 192.168.248.1?
[12:26] <kkathman> Jowl close  192.168.248.30
[12:26] <balzac> i noticed after i installed alien 8.51 it didn't show up in synaptic
[12:26] <philip69> help I want to know how to install my device drivers in linux
[12:27] <tarheelcoxn> balzac: you pulled it from somewhere other than an ubuntu repo?
[12:27] <Jowi> kkathman: so all look ok. test your nic with a live-cd or another os. best advice i can give you.
[12:27] <balzac> 8.56 is actually what i installed
[12:27] <balzac> tarheelcoxn, yes
[12:27] <tarheelcoxn> eg. built from source?
[12:27] <balzac> i do that lots
[12:27] <balzac> yes
[12:27] <kkathman> Jowl, so you think its the NIC
[12:27] <tarheelcoxn> balzac: dependency problems are the main risk
[12:27] <zodoz> could someone tell me how to properly configure my xorg for my amd64 laptop?
[12:27] <tarheelcoxn> a new version of gcc comes along and you're left scratching your head
[12:27] <Jowi> kkathman: yep. might be the NIC connector.
[12:28] <balzac> because alien 8.51 or better was specifically recommended, and found that alien 8.5 was the one already installed
[12:28] <Jowi> kkathman: but really hard to tell. most NIC look normal even if they are faulty
[12:28] <balzac> tarheelcoxn, so then i've got a mess i can't clean up?
[12:28] <tarheelcoxn> zodoz: did you read http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/323350 ?
[12:28] <kkathman> Jowl...the NIC connection on this computer is on the Motherboard. If I put a nic card in, and plug it in, should the system recognize it ok?
[12:28] <tarheelcoxn> balzac: not necessarily
[12:28] <balzac> i hate to do irreversable things
[12:28] <tarheelcoxn> just hard to clean up
[12:29] <tarheelcoxn> balzac: the point of using something built on apt (like synaptic) is that it handles dependencies for you
[12:29] <Jowi> kkathman: absolutely worth a shot. be sure to enable it in bios if you haven't. you can also try to connect to another port on the router.
[12:29] <kingright> anyone now the link for the   konqueror dillo so i cone do a wget
[12:29] <tarheelcoxn> if you want something newer, you have to be willing to deal with dependency problems as they arise
[12:29] <cody> Afternoon. I am wondering what entry I can put in fstab to allow users (gid0000 uid0000) to access my NTFS drive. It's mounted, but my user can't access it
[12:29] <kkathman> Jowl I actuall connect to a hub that connects to the router, and that port is good, based on me hooking another computer to it
[12:30] <balzac> i'm bad at being patient for new software
[12:30] <kkathman> I will try a NIC card and see what happens.
[12:30] <tarheelcoxn> I ran debian sid for a good long while--believe me, it can be painful if you're not really careful
[12:30] <kkathman> thanks for your help
[12:30] <Jowi> kkathman: connect straight to router. hubs are not reliable.
[12:31] <dianwei> I am trying to figure out how to run as root. Does root have a default password?
[12:31] <Jowi> kkathman: at least i have had some troubles with hubs. maybe it's just my paranoia kicking in :) but it is nice to have lowest possible connections when troubleshooting network
[12:32] <balzac> tarheelcoxn, do you recommend I wait for the OOo2 package specifically for ubuntu?
[12:32] <ompaul> !root
[12:32] <ubotu> root is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:32] <dianwei> I have a ton of stuff that is owned by root :(
[12:32] <nomed> hi all
[12:33] <Jowi> balzac: OO.org2 is already available i think....
[12:33] <`NTR> hi
[12:33] <Jowi> !info openoffice.org2
[12:33] <ubotu> openoffice.org2: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 73 kB, Installed size: 192 kB
[12:33] <Codeman7> Afternoon. I am wondering what entry I can put in fstab to allow users (gid0000 uid0000) to access my NTFS drive. It's mounted, but my user can't access it
[12:33] <dianwei> Ok, so I just use sudo to run as root?
[12:33] <nomed> how can i add files to a multisession  cd?
[12:33] <Seveas> !ntfs
[12:33] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:33] <erisco> i am trying to set up gimp shop, a version of gimp that has an adobe photoshop layout to it. i have downloaded the program as a .tbz where do i go from here? i think i may need to compile it, but i have no clue what it is or how to do it other than you need dev packages. can someone guide me in the correct path?
[12:33] <Seveas> erisco, there is a .deb for it
[12:33] <Codeman7> Seveas: thanks :)
[12:34] <rkd> In Nautilus, with mp3 files, right-click > Properties > Audio/Video doesn't give any information. mp3info from the command line does provide it, though, so it's there. Any idea what's going on?
[12:34] <jrattner1> How do you decrypt m4p's with gstreamer?
[12:34] <tarheelcoxn> balzac: what ubotu said
[12:35] <balzac> I'm on dialup and i downloaded these rpms overnight
[12:35] <balzac> can I convert my rpms to debs and then refer to them from the synaptic system? or should I just re-download?
[12:35] <jrattner1> How do you decrypt m4p's with gstreamer-faad
[12:35] <nalioth> jrattner1: you do not
[12:35] <nalioth> jrattner1: we dont discuss breaking drm in here
[12:36] <cafuego_> balzac: Depends on what they are. generally it's a very bad idea.
[12:36] <balzac> ok, i get the picture
[12:36] <go_play> can anyone suggests me partition sizes for server on a 4.3GB hard disk????
[12:36] <jrattner1> nalioth, Im not trying to break drm, im trying to decrypt my own download itunes so I can play them in xmms.
[12:36] <cafuego_> go_play: 50Mb /boot, 4 GB /, rest swap
[12:37] <sorush20> guys please.. I have no idea why I can't delete file form my desktop..
[12:37] <moquist> sorush20: private message ok?
[12:37] <cafuego_> jrattner1: Yes, that's illegal.
[12:37] <balzac> sorush20, have you right-clicked and viewed properties?
[12:37] <jrattner1> cafuego, my bad
[12:37] <moquist> sorush20: listen to balzac.  :)
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> go_play : use 4G / and make sure you have plenty ram, but wouldnt let swap go below 256
[12:38] <cafuego_> jrattner1: Mind you, google will help you out there if you search for itunes, aac and linux.
[12:39] <lsuactiafner> you dont need a 50mb /boot on a system with so little space
[12:39] <lsuactiafner> a 50mb /boot will waste around 40mb
[12:39] <erisco> are .deb extensions that are used with apt-get and synaptic?
[12:39] <cafuego_> lsuactiafner: That depends on the number of kernels. I find 10Mb too small usually, as I don't trash old known-good ekrnels on production systems.
[12:39] <nalioth> erisco: they are used on debian systems, yes
[12:39] <jrattner1> hehe : )
[12:40] <cafuego_> go_play: Actually, with 512MB swap, you could use tmpfs to have a separate /tmp mount.
[12:40] <cafuego_> (decent sized one, that is)
[12:40] <sizzam> whats the package called that is needed to get dvd menus to work correctly in xine
[12:41] <alekz> anyone has a inklevel for gdesklets ?
[12:41] <Jowi> sizzam: libdvdnav4 i beleive
[12:41] <sizzam> jowi: thanx
[12:41] <dianwei> Thanks again guys
[12:42] <lucky_strike> hi
[12:42] <kkathman> Jowl:  It works now...I simply had to reboot after making those changes
[12:42] <kriley> How do I get a few shell commands to run when ubuntu 5.10 starts?
[12:42] <Jowi> sizzam: but i'm not sure if libdvdplay0 also support it
[12:42] <TiMiDo> kriley man update.rc-d
[12:42] <kriley> thanks
[12:42] <TiMiDo> np
[12:42] <Jowi> sizzam: install both to be on the safe side :)
[12:42] <lucky_strike> I have a question - did anyone order CDs with ubuntu with ShipIt to Germany? how long does it take?
[12:43] <Jowi> sizzam: i use both with totem-xine. works great
[12:43] <echo> Hi, i got a extremly stange error while i tryed to start wine.... "
[12:43] <echo> failed while creating '/home/echo/.wine'." anyone know what is wrong?
[12:43] <TiMiDo> echo do mkdir .wine
[12:43] <TiMiDo> or sudo apt-get install winesetup
[12:43] <TiMiDo> and run it with winesetup
[12:47] <j69ds> hello
[12:47] <nvve> how do you install .deb files?
[12:48] <TiMiDo> nvve dpkg -i deb
[12:48] <TiMiDo> as sudo
[12:48] <nvve> deb = xyz.deb file?
[12:48] <kkathman> Jowl again thank you for your time
[12:48] <TiMiDo> sudo deb -i xyz.deb
[12:48] <nvve> thanks, im off to install now =P
[12:48] <j69ds> anybidy know why ubutu 5.10 keeps failing on install, it gets to about halfway base install then fails
[12:48] <TiMiDo> ok no problem
[12:48] <Jowi> kkathman: you're welcome man
[12:49] <strannik> need help with my sound...
[12:49] <TiMiDo> j69ds what machine is it?
[12:49] <TiMiDo> !tell strannik about sound
[12:49] <strannik> thank you
[12:49] <j69ds> pc is a 1400 mhz amd, onboard sound video etc pc
[12:49] <TiMiDo> np
[12:49] <TiMiDo> oh
[12:49] <TiMiDo> amd
[12:49] <TiMiDo> is it an amd64?
[12:50] <j69ds> no regular amd
[12:50] <TiMiDo> oh ic,
[12:50] <TiMiDo> do you get any errors?
[12:50] <TiMiDo> on the installation?
[12:50] <skiy_> Hi TiMiDo do you have more than one sound device installed in your system?
[12:50] <j69ds> none untill it fails then says that it cannot install and to check a .log file
[12:51] <skiy_> e.g. sound card & motherboard audio ?
[12:51] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know what features breezy is going to have
[12:51] <TiMiDo> j69ds then clean the cd and try again
[12:51] <TiMiDo> Lord_Maynoth breezy is already released
[12:51] <j69ds> I tried reburning the cd also tried with a different cd drive
[12:51] <balzac> balzac do you have all permissions checked?
[12:51] <balzac> sorush20 No I still can't delete.. have a look at the permissions.. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3420
[12:51] <balzac> balzac looking
[12:51] <balzac> balzac I'm a linux newb as well, so I'll just paste this back into the channel...
[12:51] <Lord_Maynoth> er I mean dapper drake
[12:51] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone know what features dapper drake is going to have?
[12:51] <TiMiDo> ask on #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-motu
[12:52] <root____1> why isn't this working? mount /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 -t ntfs -o rw users
[12:52] <j69ds> any other ideas
[12:53] <j69ds> could one copy the install to hadrdrive and run it from there somehow
[12:54] <mario_> hay alguien que escriba en espaol?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[12:54] <aabot> !es
[12:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:54] <Lord_Maynoth> su dios es muerto
[12:55] <gci> you french
[12:55] <gci> ok
[12:56] <Lord_Maynoth> yes
[12:56] <Lord_Maynoth> I am french
[12:56] <gci> french french oui
[12:56] <B_166-ER-X> ..
[12:56] <derchilligephil|> how can i use make
[12:56] <B_166-ER-X> franchement :P
[12:56] <derchilligephil|> and where can i get it
[12:56] <derchilligephil|> want to install no-ip client
[12:56] <QMario> Hello Seveas and ompaul!!! :)
[12:56] <gci> franchement FR
[12:56] <MrBean> does anyone know a good wireless card that works with ubuntu ?
[12:57] <ericz> what's different about just running KDE on ubuntu and installing Kubuntu??
[12:57] <MrBean> that i can buy from somewere
[12:57] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: sudo apt-get install no-ip <--- the easy way
[12:57] <derchilligephil|> hehe
[12:57] <derchilligephil|> k
[12:57] <QMario> How do I play .mid files in Ubuntu?
[12:57] <nalioth> ericz: they are the same action
[12:57] <ericz> ok...
[12:57] <QMario> Hello nalioth!!! :)
[12:57] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: no need to "make" it manually since it is already available to install :)
[12:58] <derchilligephil|> yeah great
[12:58] <derchilligephil|> im new
[12:58] <derchilligephil|> ;)
[12:58] <thinman> when i add domain into my dhcp ip, it automatic remove after running /etc/init.d/networking daemon ? please help
[12:58] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[12:58] <Jowi> no probs derchilligephil|
[12:58] <marsh> youz guys are my last dying attempt to get this going before i get some well earned shut eye...
[12:58] <gimmulf> damn cant get this rar-free working... everything i try to extract fails...
[12:58] <Jowi> hello nalioth
[12:58] <gimmulf> is there any better rar sofdtware?
[12:58] <derchilligephil|> i love the shell
[12:59] <QMario> Hello Jowi!!! :)
[12:59] <Jowi> gimmulf: sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:59] <derchilligephil|> its a interesting way to control a pc
[12:59] <derchilligephil|> :)
[12:59] <nalioth> gimmulf: why use rar we have gzip, bzip2 rzip, and on and on
[12:59] <Jowi> hi QMario :)
[12:59] <j69ds> help with install needed, no mater I try ubuntu not installing on a pc clone (amd chip) it gets to halfway base install then fails. tried a couple of cd's and cd drives also.. any ideas
[12:59] <gimmulf> nalioth:  everyone doesmnt use that
[12:59] <nalioth> gimmulf: winzip will open all but rzip
[01:00] <gimmulf> Jowi:  Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:00] <B_166-ER-X> is there someone that would really know why something dont work on ubuntu ? i have a problem ,and the usual solution wont work, and its too complicated to write it all here
[01:00] <Jowi> !info unrar
[01:00] <nalioth> gimmulf: unrar-nonfree
[01:00] <marsh> I'm finding problems deleting files (or chmod'ing them) on a usb disk... have changed the permissions once to 777, but it still wont let me delete them - says it's a 'read only file system' - but mount says its mounted (rw), umask=0000 (i mounted it by hand). Can anyone help me out...?
[01:00] <QMario> So, what do you think nalioth?
[01:00] <marsh> please...?
[01:00] <Jowi> unrar; source unrar-nonfree. ah
[01:00] <derchilligephil|> sudo apt-get install no-ip wont work
[01:01] <nalioth> QMario: think about what?
[01:01] <Jowi> !info no-ip
[01:01] <ubotu> no-ip: (A second-generation Linux client for dynamic DNS service), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1.1-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 128 kB
[01:01] <gimmulf> Jowi:  what ? :)
[01:01] <QMario> What program in Ubuntu can play .mid files?
[01:01] <B_166-ER-X> please :| i dont want to reinstall
[01:01] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: you need to enable "universe" in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:01] <Jowi> !+repos
[01:01] <ubotu> well, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[01:01] <gimmulf> Jowi:  what command should i use?
[01:02] <mario_> hola
[01:02] <azeem> B_166-ER-X: write to the ubuntu-users mailing list or the forums describing your problem
[01:02] <mario_> HOLA
[01:02] <QMario> Hola, mario_!!! :)
[01:02] <nalioth> QMario: i recommend you open a terminal and type "apt-cache search midi"
[01:02] <Jowi> gimmulf: i'm trying to remember where i got unrar from. was before i updated to breezy.
[01:02] <gimmulf> k
[01:02] <marsh> hola mario
[01:02] <mario_> ES LA PRIMERA VEZ QUE USO ESTO
[01:02] <derchilligephil|> cant find package
[01:02] <lucky_strike> I have a question - did anyone order CDs with ubuntu with ShipIt to Germany? how long does it take?
[01:02] <Sanne> QMario: dunno if it's in Ubuntu, but timidity is a software midi player, you might want to try it.
[01:03] <jeffisageek> hey I am trying to install flock on my computer i have all the files out of the zipped file does anyone know what i need to do to install it
[01:03] <nalioth> mario_: por favor vaya de el #ubuntu-es
[01:03] <marsh> no-one? no one know why my filesystem says it's ro?
[01:03] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: you need to enable "universe" in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:03] <derchilligephil|> yeah sry
[01:03] <echo> :/ anyone know how 2 solve this? "wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/echo/.wine'." ??? (winesetup dose not ether work).
[01:04] <jeffisageek> there is a flock-bin file would that be what i need to run? to install
[01:04] <MrBean> anyone know any good online shops for hardware ??
[01:04] <B_166-ER-X> azeem too long for a response, its important boot problem.
[01:04] <marsh> MrBean, where u?
[01:04] <MrBean> in uk
[01:04] <jeffisageek> or a flock.sh file also
[01:05] <mario_> SE QUE ESTOY EN LA SALA EQUIVOCADA
[01:05] <mario_> ALGUIEN ME PUEDE ECHAR UN CABLE
[01:05] <derchilligephil|> how do i set this file up
[01:05] <derchilligephil|> universe
[01:05] <Jowi> mario_: /join #ubuntu-es please
[01:06] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: in a terminal: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:06] <derchilligephil|> yeah i know
[01:06] <derchilligephil|> but mom
[01:06] <marsh> well thaNKS GENTS :(
[01:06] <marsh> sorry (caps), am tired
[01:07] <derchilligephil|> cant connect to list
[01:07] <jeffisageek> can anyone help me with the install of flock?  there is a flock.sh file is that what i want to use to install?
[01:07] <nalioth> jeffisageek: there are no READMEs with your flock files?
[01:07] <derchilligephil|> "/var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages"
[01:07] <sorush20> anyone here want a gmail accout..
[01:08] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: type this in a terminal "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" after that you add a line like this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[01:08] <jeffisageek> well looks like it is the same if you were installing firefox
[01:08] <jeffisageek> since that is what it is with a few extras really :D
[01:08] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: follow my instructions and you will succeed.
[01:08] <B_166-ER-X> last call before i format : is there someone who can help me with a linux-image problem ?
[01:08] <sizzam> is clipboard functionality supposed to be fixed in breezy so you dont need gnome-clipboard-daemon
[01:09] <lsuactiafner> B_166-ER-X : what do you mean?
[01:09] <echo> What ype of image problem?
[01:09] <echo> type*
[01:09] <derchilligephil|> cant connect to list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[01:10] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: what do you mean "can't connect" what are you doing?
[01:10] <alex_> hi
[01:11] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: did you add "universe" or not? after you have saved the file you need to type this in a terminal; "sudo apt-get update"
[01:11] <alex_> i m brazil
[01:11] <derchilligephil|> he say to me the he cant connect to the list with the packages
[01:11] <B_166-ER-X> long story short : i followed : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76309 , and it 'broke' my system, if i dont use .bak at the end of my inirt at boot it just says : FATAL : could not load /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/modules.dep : no such file or directory     , and i DID put back the initrd.img like it was, and i did dpkg-reconfigure the linux image...so here i am
[01:11] <alex_> sao paulo
[01:11] <nalioth> !br
[01:11] <sunshine82> how do i execute tar.gz
[01:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[01:11] <sunshine82> files
[01:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sunshine82 about cli
[01:12] <sunshine82> it tar - something
[01:12] <sunshine82> nalioth who cli
[01:12] <nalioth> sunshine82: look to your private messages
[01:12] <El_Che> sunshine82: tar xzvf *.tar.gz
[01:12] <B_166-ER-X> lsuactiafner,  et echo . you see...
[01:12] <B_166-ER-X> et = and
[01:14] <bubba> hi - i just removed my mouse temporarily from my computer, and ubuntu no longer recognises it. any idea why? it's a Microsoft USB mouse.
[01:14] <tonyyarusso> How do I set up different users on the system with different languages (for the menus, the desktop, applications, etc.)?
[01:15] <QMario> Thank God!!! :) It plays.
[01:15] <QMario> Thank you for the suggestion Sanne!!! ;)
[01:15] <B_166-ER-X> any1 ??
[01:16] <echo> Hmm, i dont really know B_166-ER-X, sorry......
[01:16] <B_166-ER-X> like most peaple.
[01:16] <Sanne> QMario: cool! you're welcome :)
[01:16] <B_166-ER-X> yea
[01:16] <B_166-ER-X> eo
[01:16] <sunshine82> nalioth nahh that tar xzvf didnt work where do i put that star
[01:17] <sunshine82> is it tar xzvf *. (filename) tar.gz
[01:17] <lucky_strike>  it tar - something
[01:17] <lucky_strike> * Kyral has joined #ubuntu
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 sunshine82: tar xzvf *.tar.gz
 lsuactiafner,  et echo . you see...
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[01:17] <lucky_strike> oops sry!!
[01:17] <Jowi> sunshine82: replace the * with your filename: tar xzvf filename.tar.gz
[01:17] <Buo> Hi, i'm trying to install Ubuntu in a IBM Aptiva Cyrix 586 100Mhz / 24MB RAM... Its BIOS doesn't support CD-ROM boot... how can I do to make it work??
[01:18] <echo> Hehe, i got a starnge problem... I cant run wine... wine cant (4 some srage reason) not make any folders... "
[01:18] <echo> wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/echo/.wine'"... someone know what i shud do?
[01:18] <MrBean> put it in the bin and buy a new one
[01:18] <MrBean> lol
[01:18] <sunshine82> nalioth ive look at the basic command website it does not tell me about tar.gz files
[01:18] <Buo> I'm serious! :S
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> Buo: First, are you sure the BIOS doesn't support it at all, and it's not just a configuration issue?
[01:18] <nalioth> sunshine82: open a terminal and type "man tar"
[01:18] <Jowi> Buo: 24mb ram is not enough for anything.
[01:18] <Buo> no?
[01:19] <Buo> duh!
[01:19] <gimmulf> Please give me a tip on a nice unrar software.. unrar-free sucks :/
[01:19] <tonyyarusso> Buo: Your other option would be to download a disk image and install from that I suppose.
[01:19] <MrBean> wat did it run windows 1.0 ?
[01:19] <Jowi> Buo, well, X is out of the question. maybe you can run text-mode/console only
[01:19] <jbroome> Buo: hang on, i'm trying to dig up a link for you
[01:19] <nalioth> gimmulf: unrar-nonfree
[01:19] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Probably a good point.  Where'd this computer come from anyway?
[01:19] <Ron_o> actually, if I can remember correctly, Bill Gates said that no one should ever need anymore than 64KB of RAM.
[01:19] <Kingbahamut> evening ladies and gents
[01:19] <Jowi> Ron_o: lol
[01:20] <Buo> ok I'll wait
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> echo : since you installed it as root, only root can make new files in the directories
[01:20] <Jowi> Ron_o: it's actually in my OS/2 manual!
[01:20] <gimmulf> nalioth:  cant find that package
[01:20] <Ron_o> His words are?
[01:20] <nalioth> gimmulf: enable all your repos
[01:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gimmulf about sources
[01:20] <balzac> suppose I begin to install something large from the internet with synaptic, but it gets interrupted by loss of access to the internet. can i resume without any troubles?
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know how to configure languages for different users?
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> B_166-ER-X btw i dont use ubuntu kernels/modules do got no idea how to fix related problems
[01:21] <Jowi> Ron_o: yeah, some wierd quotes in there
[01:21] <TiMiDo> damn i'm bored
[01:21] <echo> Nah luaciafner... "wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/root/.wine'."
[01:21] <Ron_o> wow, I'd love to see those in print..
[01:21] <tonyyarusso> balzac: I haven't tried, but I would doubt it.
[01:21] <bubba> 'so no-ones ever had to configure ubuntu for a usb mouse?
[01:21] <Ron_o> He also said the internet would go nowhere.
[01:21] <Ron_o> yah, he
[01:21] <nevyn> hell no
[01:21] <lsuactiafner> as i said.. echo : open a root terminal and see if it works then... but try not to run wine as root
[01:21] <Ron_o> yah, he's some kind of genius alright.
[01:21] <nevyn> bubba: it should just go if you plug it in and give it a second
[01:22] <Buo> I've got OS/2 Warp 4.0 / Windows 98SE running on that PC and can't run a good Linux distro? :( That's a bad news :(
[01:22] <bubba> i checked the X server conf file and it seems to keep reverting to a ps/2 mouse
[01:22] <Ron_o> anyway, I got an old computer out and am just waiting for Ubuntu to arrive.
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> bubba: Mine has always worked just fine.  Have you tried rebooting and seeing if the same thing would happen again?
[01:22] <Ron_o> I've got an old Gateway G6-350
[01:22] <bubba> yeah
[01:22] <bubba> it didnt recognise the mouse
[01:22] <echo> I did run wine as root....
[01:22] <bubba> i'll give it another go
[01:22] <bubba> back in a bit okay?
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> bubba: All right, sounds good.
[01:23] <Jowi> Buo, I think you might give Slackware a go. DSL has got a live-cd that should run on your computer with a bit of luck. Bonzai might as well.
[01:24] <derchilligephil|> i have a directory "/mp3/windows/" and i want all files in there to copy to /mp3/
[01:24] <derchilligephil|> mv /mp3/windows /mp3 wont work
[01:25] <gimmulf> nalioth:  hmm i have marked every resitory in the list still cant find it
[01:25] <lsuactiafner> slackware works better on older hardware than ubuntu, though slackware would be a little bit more effort to get working if it doesnt work out of the box
[01:25] <erisco> i am trying to get XML::Parser to work... but after i do cpan -i XML::Parser it comes back with more errors than the terminal can hold
[01:25] <lsuactiafner> since they use solid safe configurations though not always optimal.
[01:25] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: mv -R /mp3/windows/* /mp3/ (will move all files under mp3/windows)
[01:25] <sunshine82> jowi i tried that i got an error
[01:26] <erisco>   /usr/bin/make -j3 -- NOT OK
[01:26] <Buo> people... all i need is a linux where i can run Apache, PHP, MySQL and a Browser... is that possible on my PC??
[01:26] <derchilligephil|> is mv = cut
[01:26] <erisco> i think the -j3 is not right
[01:26] <derchilligephil|> because i have no space
[01:26] <derchilligephil|> :)
[01:26] <erisco> though i was not sure what to use in that space
[01:26] <lsuactiafner> erisco : nice -n -1 -j 2 is ok
[01:26] <Jowi> sunshine82: ok, how about: file-roller filename.tar.gz
[01:26] <lsuactiafner> erisco : nice -n -1 make -j 2 is ok
[01:26] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: mv = move
[01:26] <bubba> No luck with the mouse.
[01:27] <bubba> it usually lights up as its optical
[01:27] <derchilligephil|> yeah but is it coping and delting after copying or not
[01:27] <bubba> but it's not lit up
[01:27] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: try with a few files to try it out. live a little :)
[01:27] <bubba> haha
[01:28] <derchilligephil|> yeah
[01:28] <derchilligephil|> maybe its the best :)
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> bubba: Hmm.  Some sort of problem with the hotplug system I guess, although I don't know what to do about that.  Have you investigated any other USB devices?
[01:28] <bubba> i have a usb hdd
[01:28] <bubba> and that is being detected and mounting fine.
[01:28] <Jowi> bubba: battery check!
[01:28] <Jowi> lol
[01:28] <bubba> in the mouse?
[01:29] <Jowi> bubba: optical wireless wasn't it?
[01:29] <bubba> no
[01:29] <Jowi> oh
[01:29] <bubba> its wired
[01:29] <bubba> but good point
[01:30] <bubba> maybe i should just go out and buy a ps2 mouse :)
[01:30] <Jowi> how about running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to let X reconfigure the mouse settings for you...?
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> bubba: In that case, it might depend what this mouse is worth to you.  It worked before though, at least briefly?
[01:30] <gimmulf> im getting this error when reloading respitories: http://pastebin.com/401465
[01:30] <derek> so i am having a problem with breezy.... i just installed warty -> hoary -> breezy..... gdm loads.... i try to log into gnome it RARELY works. usually i just see the backdrop. When it does work, i notice i have only openoffice1 packages, not 2 (i did a dist-upgrade all three times). WHen gnome does load and i try to open a gtk app, it takes like 10 minutes to open. Once apps are open, the system is responsive(so it isn't system resources)...
[01:30] <cfh_dev> What log do I check to see what failed in the boot sequence?
[01:30] <bubba> yeah jowi i did that
[01:31] <bubba> i wasnt sure which /dev to choose
[01:31] <Jowi> bubba: yeah, never had an USB mouse before so i'm of no help there
[01:31] <bubba> ok
[01:31] <bubba> i think i'll just get a new mouse
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> bubba: I've had them plenty, but never had a problem.
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> bubba: Go for it.
[01:31] <Jowi> bubba: maybe /dev/input/mice
[01:31] <derek> anyone knwo what is wrong with my weird gnome behavior?
[01:31] <bubba> the other usb devices cant be interfering can they?
[01:32] <sunshine82> everytime i try and extrack ymessenger which is a deb file i get an error
[01:32] <bubba> is there a way to control the gui with the keys?
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> bubba: I don't think so.  Can you attach multiple other devices and not have problems with any of those?
[01:32] <bubba> i mean to move the point around?
[01:33] <bubba> maybe hotplug isnt running
[01:33] <gimmulf> Can someone help me getting some good rar software, im dying here :)only have this unrar-free but it doesnt seem to work, just showing failed on every file i try to extract...
[01:33] <tonyyarusso> bubba: No clue.  If my mouse fails I still have the TrackPoint and touchpad left, so I've never needed to know that.
[01:33] <bubba> ok
[01:33] <bubba> thanks for listening guys
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> bubba: But you said other stuff would plug and play, right?  Or were they already in?
[01:34] <bubba> they were already there
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> In that case, anyone know how to manually start hotplug?
[01:34] <bubba> but i could remove them and on the next reboot they would be recognised
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> bubba: During boot, or if you attached them after it was up?
[01:35] <Jowi> gimmulf: if unrar doesn't do it for you i have no idea what can.
[01:35] <cfh_dev> bubba: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices will show you the details of your usb stuff.  I used that to setup my mouse in x
[01:35] <bubba> wow ok
[01:35] <gimmulf> Jowi:  isnt the command for extracting just: unrar-free -x file.rar?
[01:35] <gimmulf> cant understand why it aint working
[01:35] <cfh_dev> gimmulf: unrar -x file.rar
[01:35] <foampeace> hi
[01:35] <Jowi> gimmulf: no. "unrar x filename.rar"
[01:36] <cfh_dev> foampeace: hola
[01:36] <bubba> tony> they were there before booting
[01:36] <gimmulf> Jowi:  i dont have unrar
[01:36] <gimmulf> just this unrar-free
[01:36] <Jowi> oh.
[01:36] <gimmulf> only rar thing i can find in the packet manager
[01:36] <bubba> i think i need to get to bed
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> bubba: So we still have no confirmation of anything using hotplug successfully.
[01:37] <cfh_dev> gimmulf: if unrar free is dying then you probably have a Rar 3.0 file.
[01:37] <bubba> shall i try to remove it and plug it back in
[01:37] <cfh_dev> gimmulf: for that, you'll need to get the unrar non-free version
[01:37] <kingright> where can i get a good BitTorrent program for ubuntu
[01:37] <sunshine82> how do i get alsa oss
[01:37] <gimmulf> cfh_dev:  how ? :)
[01:37] <stephen2> I have some source code that wants to compile with gcc-3.4. This computer doesnt have internet connection yet, so I can't download gcc-3.4
[01:37] <Jowi> gimmulf: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/u/unrar-nonfree/
[01:37] <nalioth> gimmulf: you have to enable universe and multiverse
[01:37] <gimmulf> thanks
[01:37] <cfh_dev> gimmulf: it's in multiverse
[01:37] <stephen2> How do I force it to compile with gcc-4.0?
[01:37] <derek> kingright: apt-get install bittornado
[01:37] <nalioth> gimmulf: see what ubotu sent you
[01:37] <cfh_dev> Kingbahamut: I've used the gnome bt stuff but prefer BitTornado
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> kingright: One comes preinstalled.
[01:38] <cfh_dev> kingright: I've used the gnome bt stuff but prefer BitTornado
[01:38] <cfh_dev> Kingbahamut: sorry, wrong person
[01:38] <kingright> ty
[01:38] <gimmulf> nalioth:  i checked that out and i have marked: Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger (Universe) in the respitories
[01:38] <cfh_dev> kingright: Azureus is cool but eats up a lot of resources to run
[01:38] <stephen2> Anyone?
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> bubba: Yeah, at least to learn better where the problem is.
[01:39] <_jaypee> hello, i would like to compile mplayer under ubuntu, do I have to ./configure --prefix=/usr or just ./configure
[01:39] <nalioth> gimmulf: have you updated your apt-get?
[01:39] <ptashek> hawye
[01:39] <gimmulf> nalioth:  dont think so
[01:39] <bubba> ok
[01:39] <nalioth> gimmulf: that would help
[01:39] <bubba> good news is that i have fixed it
[01:39] <kingright> all i got hen i typed was
[01:39] <cfh_dev> stephen2: you should be able to type gcc-4.0 <input file> to use gcc 4.0
[01:39] <kingright> Reading package lists... Done
[01:39] <kingright> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:39] <kingright> E: Couldn't find package bittornado
[01:39] <bubba> bad new is i have no idea why
[01:39] <gimmulf> nalioth:  how do i do that?
[01:39] <bubba> hehe
[01:39] <Jowi> _jaypee: mplayer is in the repos already. no need to compile it
[01:39] <gimmulf> thru packet manager?
[01:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gimmulf about apt-get
[01:39] <jackster> guys, where do i get hold of GLIB?
[01:39] <bubba> i put it into another usb port
[01:40] <bubba> and it recognised it there
[01:40] <Jowi> !info mplayer
[01:40] <cfh_dev> kingright: it might be in universe or multiverse.  Be sure to check there
[01:40] <bubba> but not on some other sockets
[01:40] <stephen2> ok. Now, normally to compile it, i'd just type make
[01:40] <bubba> how strage
[01:40] <nalioth> _jaypee: plain ./configure will do
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> bubba: Well, sometimes that's all it takes, work with it for now.
[01:40] <stephen2> would I now type "gcc-4.0 make"?
[01:40] <Jowi> is mplayer removed?
[01:40] <Zealot87> im trying to copy some desklets into the desklet folder and it says that i dont have permission, but im the only user of the computer haha, is there a way that i can log in as admin, or tell it to not need permission or something
[01:40] <bubba> i forgot those sockets were even there.
[01:40] <bubba> sorry to take up your time guys
[01:40] <_jaypee> jowi i just wanted the newest version
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> bubba: If you feel like spending the money, you might need to get someone to look at your hardware.
[01:40] <cfh_dev> stephen2: you'll need to change some make params
[01:40] <kingright> how do i get there im new with linux
[01:40] <Jowi> _jaypee: goot point
[01:40] <_jaypee> because it has that vulnerability fix
[01:40] <Jowi> goot = good
[01:41] <_jaypee> but thanks guys
[01:41] <stephen2> How do I do that?
[01:41] <Zealot87> the computer says im not the owner! which is really confusing
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> So gnome-language-selector lists "language available to people using the system".  How are they available?  How to I change individual users, not the default language?
[01:41] <Jowi> bubba: glad it sorted itself out
[01:41] <jackster> zealot87: sudo
[01:41] <bubba> perhaps the old usb ports are not usb2?
[01:41] <Zealot87> just type sudo in
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> bubba: Perhaps.
[01:41] <Jowi> _jaypee: ./configure should do it
[01:41] <gimmulf> sudo apt-get upgrade   ?
[01:41] <Zealot87> jackster,  but im doing things with Nautilus, and it says im not the owner
[01:41] <bubba> thanks agian
[01:41] <bubba> 1 sec
[01:42] <cfh_dev> kingright: in /etc/apt/sources.list, add "universe multiverse" to the end of the line that ends with "breezy main restricted"
[01:42] <kingright> how do i get to  universe?
[01:42] <jackster> zealot87: oh, i dont know then, ive been wanting to know how to do that aswell
[01:42] <jackster> anyone know how to get a hold of Glib?
[01:42] <_jaypee> thanks jowi!
[01:42] <_jaypee> compiling now
[01:42] <Zealot87> can anyone tell me how i can tell Nautilus that I am the owner? so that i can copy/write/execute files
[01:43] <Jowi> gimmulf: "apt-get update" will update your list. "apt-get upgrade" will upgrade all your applications and stuff to the latest versions.
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> Anyone?  Anyone use another language want to tell me how it's done, or where it might be in a FAQ somewhere?
[01:43] <jackster> anyone know where to get Glib?
[01:43] <ptashek> anyone got wine running on breezy?
[01:43] <jackster> i got XWine
[01:43] <jackster> on breezy
[01:43] <stephen2> Ok. I can't figure this out.
[01:43] <ptashek> jackster: gnu.org?
[01:44] <jackster> ptashek: what about gnu.org
[01:44] <cyphase> how do you getdetailed information about your memory?
[01:44] <cyphase> RAM* :)
[01:44] <ptashek> jackster: xwine? is that the gaming one?
[01:44] <ptashek> jackster: you can get glib on gnu.org AFAIR
[01:44] <jackster> ptashek: no, XWine is an X frontend for wine, quite nice
[01:44] <strannik> Guys, could some one help me out by taking a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=433408#post433408
[01:45] <Zealot87> does anyone know how to tell Nautilus that I am the owner?!
[01:45] <jackster> ptashek: thanks for that, ill have a look
[01:45] <cyphase> Zealot87, owner of a file?
[01:45] <Zealot87> owner of the computer, it wont let me copy and write files
[01:45] <cyphase> hmmm..
[01:45] <cyphase> which files do you mean?
[01:45] <cyphase> just an example
[01:45] <stephen2> How do I configure make to use gcc-4.0 instead of 3.4?
[01:46] <Zealot87> im using a tarball to copy a desklet to the desklet directories, and it says "you dont have permission to do that
[01:46] <Zealot87> and then i thought i would look it folder properties, and it says that im not the owner of the folder,
[01:46] <cyphase> Zealot, your personal desklets, or system-wide desklets?
[01:46] <Zealot87> i dunno what the difference is
[01:46] <sunshine82> how do i get alsa oss
[01:46] <cyphase> what is the directory name?
[01:46] <gimmulf> Jowi:  http://pastebin.com/401470
[01:46] <cyphase> path*
[01:46] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: I only managed to update the whole system to another language, not just the wm itself. i don't use gnome, but i think there is a command called "gnome-language-selector" or something. might be what you are looking for.
[01:47] <Zealot87> usr/share/desklets
[01:47] <cyphase> yea..
[01:47] <Zealot87> gdesklets*
[01:47] <cyphase> you don't have permission to that
[01:47] <stephen2> How do I configure make to use gcc-4.0 by default?
[01:47] <Jowi> gimmulf: "sudo apt-get update"
[01:47] <Zealot87> aww why!!?
[01:47] <cyphase> it's owned by root i would think
[01:47] <cyphase> to protect you
[01:47] <jcape> stephen: update-alternatives
[01:47] <Zealot87> ohh
[01:47] <gimmulf> yes Jowi  but theres something wrong with one of the mirrors
[01:47] <Zealot87> so how do i install desklets then
[01:47] <Zealot87> ha
[01:48] <stephen2> jcape: I dont have an internet connection
[01:48] <cyphase> you can install them on your own account
[01:48] <stephen2> on that computer
[01:48] <cyphase> use the interface in the program
[01:48] <jcape> stephen: /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/gcc, which is a symlink to your preferred compiler in /usr/bin
[01:48] <Zealot87> ok ill do that
[01:48] <Jowi> gimmulf: can you please post your /etc/apt/sources.list in the pastebin?
[01:48] <cyphase> i'm running gdesklets right now
[01:48] <Fugitive> sorry to interrupt the conversation... but I have a questions...
[01:48] <gimmulf> ok
[01:48] <jcape> stephen: the "update-alternatives" program manages those symlinks
[01:48] <cyphase> that's how i would do it
[01:48] <InfoPro> ok
[01:48] <cyphase> if you want to install system-wide desklets..
[01:48] <stephen2> Well, this driver, when I run the "make" on it, it defaults to gcc-3.4
[01:48] <stephen2> is that what I use 'update-alternatives' for?
[01:49] <jcape> stephen: Yes
[01:49] <cyphase> Zealot87, let me know how it turns out
[01:49] <gimmulf> Jowi:  http://pastebin.com/401471
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: There is gnome-language-selector, but what it does is allow you to choose which languages to install on the system, and which one to use as the default "For new accounts and the login screen".
[01:49] <stephen2> Ok, so what do I type to make it point gcc-3.4 at gcc-4.0?
[01:49] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: aha. ok.
[01:49] <gimmulf> Jowi:  deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse   and  deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse seem to be broken
[01:50] <jayparadise> anyone got the error during grub when you type kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/rootdevice it tells you that your correct root device is screweed up?
[01:50] <cyphase> how do i get detailed memory info for my computer?
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: But it then says that they are all "available" to users of the system, whatever that means.
[01:50] <cyphase> like size, type, etc
[01:50] <jayparadise> my root device isnt screwed up, im on it now
[01:50] <Zealot87> cyphase, worked wonders, i didnt even have to extract them out of the tarballs
[01:50] <cyphase> i know
[01:50] <Zealot87> thanks for the help!
[01:50] <cyphase> np
[01:50] <Zealot87> good bye
[01:50] <cyphase> bye
[01:50] <jcape> stephen2: Dunno offhand
[01:51] <Jimbob> stephen2: Sorry, switching machines
[01:52] <Jowi> gimmulf: breezy backports are not available yet. you can comment those out.
[01:52] <Jimbob> stephen2: "sudo update-alternatives --config gcc"
[01:52] <Jimbob> stephen2: That'll let you set your default gcc to -4.0
[01:52] <Jimbob> (or should, at least)
[01:52] <gimmulf> oki Jowi
[01:53] <Jimbob> stephen2: This is from the man page for update-alternatives
[01:53] <Jowi> gimmulf: then do "sudo apt-get update" again
[01:54] <sunshine82> how do i get alsa oss
[01:54] <QMario> How do I install .jar files?
[01:54] <gimmulf> Jowi:  hmmm semmes like it doesnt understand i commented thoose 2
[01:55] <sizzam> ugh, firefox is ticking me off
[01:55] <mikal_> According to apt-get, I have readline and zlib installed, but I can't #include to either of them.
[01:55] <Permico> Jar are Java archives
[01:55] <transgress> sizzam: me too.
[01:55] <sizzam> transgress:  whats your beef?   mine is the crashing on embedded vids
[01:55] <stephen2> it says no alternatives for gcc
[01:55] <Jowi> gimmulf: so delete them, save, and update.
[01:56] <QMario> Permico, I know.
[01:56] <allamchz> hello
[01:56] <QMario> So what do I do with them?
[01:56] <sunshine82> how do i get alsa oss
[01:56] <gimmulf> oki done Jowi
[01:56] <allamchz> cual es el canal de espaol?
[01:56] <gimmulf>  sudo apt-cache search unrar  still just finds unrar-free Jowi  :/
[01:56] <QMario> Permico?
[01:56] <balzac> i just ordered my breezy whore CDs! la ti da!
[01:56] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: i can't find any references either. i think you should post a question on the forums. i use two languages as well and that would be great thing to have
[01:57] <sunshine82> how do i get alsa oss
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: We'll give it a shot.
[01:57] <cfh_dev> sunshine82: which one?  alsa or oss?
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: So do you use different languages on different computers, or change the whole thing back and forth?
[01:58] <Jowi> gimmulf: argh! you need multiverse as well. add "multiverse" after the "universe" lines!
[01:58] <sizzam> does this link cause anyone else's firefox to crash?  http://www.big-boys.com/articles/hotgass.html   (its not porn)
[01:58] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: french on a laptop and english on the desktop.
[01:58] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: wife's french :)
[01:58] <transgress> sizzam: mine crashes on any new flash videos... well it doesn't crash.. it hangs...
[01:59] <cfh_dev> sizzam: my firefox doesn't die but I have adblock so it might stop the crashing element
[01:59] <balzac> flash stinks
[01:59] <sunshine82> cfh_dev i neeed to install ALSA OSS emulation laye
[01:59] <sizzam> cfh_dev,   is adblock an extension
[01:59] <balzac> i'd test your link but i don't want to lose my open tabs in firefox
[01:59] <Jowi> gimmulf: i am sooooo sorry i didn't notice the package was in multiverse. sorry sorry sorry
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Ah.
[01:59] <transgress> balzac: flash may stink, but it's kind of needed for a lot of sites
[02:00] <mikal_> I have zlib and readline5 installed via apt-get (it says they are installed and newest version) but I can't seem to compile code that requires them. Any ideas?
[02:00] <gimmulf> np Jowi
[02:00] <balzac> transgress, i'm looking forward to SVG
[02:00] <ubuntu> test
[02:00] <cfh_dev> sizzam: it's a plugin for firefox
[02:00] <allamchz> what'is the spanish channel?
[02:00] <QMario> How do I extract .jar files?
[02:00] <transgress> balzac: svg?
[02:00] <Sanne> mikal_: maybe you also need the *-dev packages?
[02:00] <QMario> #Ubuntu-es.
[02:00] <transgress> and are the breezy backports kicking yet?
[02:00] <balzac> scalable vector graphics
[02:00] <cfh_dev> sunshine82: sorry, I just have alsa.  Not sure if there's an emulation layer involved on my machine.
[02:01] <cfh_dev> transgress: nope
[02:01] <QMario> !Botsnack
[02:01] <Jowi> transgress: nope
[02:01] <ubotu> :)
[02:01] <balzac> as a standard for flash-type content, but non-binary and non-proprietary
[02:01] <transgress> i see
[02:01] <sizzam> cfh_dev:   THANK YOU!!!!    i installed adblock, seems to have fixed my problem
[02:01] <crimsun> sunshine82: it's included and loaded by default. lsmod|grep ^snd_pcm_oss
[02:01] <Severian> I am having problems signing the Ubuntu code of conduct.  I have very little experience with gpg, but it looks good.  Has anyone here done this?
[02:03] <transgress> all i want is a new compilation of firefox that works correctly with the flash plugin... 1.5b does... flock does... but the package i have does not.  so i know it isn't the plugin.
[02:03] <transgress> i've submitted a bug report and all they tell me is it looks like it's the plugin...
[02:03] <transgress> i'm like WTF
[02:03] <cfh_dev> sizzam: np.  I have a pretty cool little script that blocks most problematic things, if you want it
[02:04] <nalioth> sizzam: www.floppymoose.com
[02:04] <mikal_> Is there a reason apt-get keeps saying it cant stat a few reps and I should run apt-get UPDATE, but running that doesn't make the errors go away?
[02:04] <sizzam> cfh_dev, sure, whats the best way to get that to me
[02:05] <Severian> transgress, I thought one of the nice features of Ubuntu was that there was no flash in Firefox.  It makes browsing the web much nicrt.
[02:05] <sizzam> nalioth:  thanks, I'll check that out
[02:05] <transgress> mikal_: is it the breezy backports repo?
[02:05] <cfh_dev> sizzam: I can post it up in another window or email it.  You'll need to put it in a text file and import it
[02:05] <mikal_> trans: yea
[02:05] <sizzam> cfh_dev - email coming at you in pm
[02:05] <transgress> Severian: until you run into a site that requires flash.  so i don't see how that makes it nicer.
[02:05] <nalioth> sizzam: visit that site and see if you still need the thing from cfh_dev
[02:05] <QMario> Okay, thank God!!! :)
[02:05] <transgress> mikal_: those repo's aren't up yet.
[02:05] <QMario> It's installing.
[02:05] <transgress> Severian: no browser comes with flash by default.  hence it being a plugin.
[02:05] <QMario> Java -jar File.jar
[02:05] <nalioth> sizzam: want to block things? join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[02:05] <QMario> s/J/j
[02:06] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: there is a file that looks interesting: /etc/environment. if that is the file that decides which language is displayed on the system it would be interesting to know if you could place a .environment file in the users home dir...
[02:06] <dooglus> transgress: why not just use firefox 1.50beta2?
[02:07] <Tracy_P> On a fresh intall of Ubuntu 5.10, I am getting an error, after clicking ok it seems to be on the aspell package the the error occured.
[02:07] <transgress> dooglus: becaise there isn't a package for it.  and if there isn't... then i have to do a lot of crap to get it to recognize things like mozilla-mplayer and such.
[02:07] <Severian> transgress, There are so many sites that use flash for annoyances added to their website.  The flash content is almost never anything I want to see.  There may be some site someday I want to browse that needs flash.  But, I have not found it.
[02:07] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Intriguing.  I have nothing to lose really, let's see what happens.
[02:07] <dooglus> transgress: oh, right.  I don't bother with mplayer plugin.
[02:07] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: ah, found it: http://publib16.boulder.ibm.com/pseries/en_US/files/aixfiles/environment.htm
[02:07] <Denden> Hi, are there french ?
[02:08] <transgress> Severian: well there are plenty i go to... including band sites and others
[02:08] <cyphase> why doesn't the Art Manager that comes with breezy have support for art.ubuntu.com?
[02:08] <transgress> Severian: or movie websites... or websites i stumble...
[02:08] <cyphase> it just seems kind of strange
[02:08] <Severian> transgress, Novell Linux installs Flash by default.  When you start a browser, it has flash.  That is a bad thing.
[02:09] <transgress> Severian: then remove it.  you realize you can do that right?  it continues to be a plugin...
[02:09] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: all settings can be set in /home/user/.profile including LANG it seems
[02:09] <qmanman> anyone have a web host that they really like?
[02:09] <sunshine82> crimsun i need alsa oss layer
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Looks good!  Nice find.
[02:10] <Severian> transgress, yes.  The bad thing about Novell is that you had to agree to Macromedias obnoxious terms before you could install the os.  That is the really bad part.
[02:10] <sunshine82> crimsun alsa and oss is usuall set at default
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Now, to test it.
[02:10] <cyphase> qmanman, yes
[02:10] <transgress> Severian: or do an advanced install and choose all the packages you want...
[02:10] <qmanman> cyphase: well spill it =p
[02:10] <cyphase> Cyphase Hosting
[02:10] <cyphase> ;)
[02:11] <dooglus> Jowi: you realise that your .profile doesn't get run unless you log in (like on a virtual console for instance) right?
[02:11] <qmanman> damn it that company sucks
[02:11] <Severian> transgress, that is not an option with Novell Linux.  It is possible with SuSE, but not Novell.
[02:11] <cyphase> :)
[02:11] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Why would you need it to otherwise?
[02:11] <Jowi> dooglus: does log in via gdm count?
[02:11] <ompaul> how about open suse .. that should not have it in there
[02:11] <cyphase> I get very good service, seeing as I'm 1 of only 2 customers
[02:12] <cyphase> my cousin being the other :)
[02:12] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: what are you asking?  All I'm saying is if you want set LANG or something, .profile isn't the best place, 'cos it won't affect any GNOME terminals
[02:12] <ompaul> actually the suse converstion belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:12] <transgress> Severian: then don't use it... shouldn't be that complex of a thing.  you aren't forced to agree to those terms as you aren't forced to use it.
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Oh.  Then do you know what would?
[02:12] <Severian> ompaul, I installed open suse, but I did not check for flash.  It did not ask me to accept the obnoxious license, so it probably is not there.
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Possibly one of the other files on that page?
[02:12] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: gnome runs ~/.gnomerc - you can set it there
[02:12] <crimsun> sunshine82: I don't know what you're asking. Ubuntu loads snd-pcm-oss and snd-mixer-oss by default. They constitute your OSS emulation layer.
[02:13] <n1k0s_> could anyone see whats wrong? http://pastebin.com/401485
[02:14] <transgress> n1k0s_: bad repo's... edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # next to those repos
[02:14] <imajuchi> hi everyone, can some one please help me, how can i use k3b to burn data dvd as a normal user. i get an error but if i do it as root it burns fine. you ll help is appreciated
[02:15] <n1k0s_> where can i find a working sources.list
[02:15] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: I don't seem to have that file; should I just create one?
[02:15] <n1k0s_> wait i will paste on the site my resources list
[02:15] <ompaul> n1k0s_, why not edith the existing one - and remove the ones that your apt session is giving out about
[02:16] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: yup
[02:16] <cyphase> i'm working on a GUI for package installation on a new system. Stuff like mp3/avi support, flash, etc
[02:16] <ompaul> n1k0s_, you can do this as transgress suggests by putting a # at the start of the offending lines
[02:16] <cyphase> what kind of packages should i include?
[02:16] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: no i think .profile is enough. edit the .xsession to launch gnome and select "default session" in gdm and .profile should be read. can also set "env LANGUAGE=en_EN:en &"  in .xsession to skip the .profile
[02:16] <cyphase> feel free to ask what i mean by that :)
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> And copy the same format for things as where in /etc/environment with the new language abbreviation.
[02:16] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: what you could do is put this in it: ". ~/.profile".  then put the settings in your .login, and they're be used in both gNOME and virtual consoles then
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> ?
[02:17] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: isn't there a 'gui' way of doing this in gnome?
[02:17] <zeropc> so many people
[02:17] <zeropc> hi!
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: You'd think, but nobody seems to know.
[02:17] <Jowi> dooglus: we have only found a way to change the whole system
[02:18] <Jowi> gnome-language-selector
[02:18] <transgress> hey how can i pull the source for a package and build it again?  isn't it like apt-get -b install package or something?
[02:18] <Jowi> probably 1000 ways of doing this
[02:18] <dooglus> i'm on a (shock!  horror!) windows box at the mo, so I can't check
[02:18] <[snape] > hola alguien de chile
[02:18] <[snape] > o ke hable en espaol
[02:18] <imajuchi> does any here is able to burn data dvd on k3b or gnomebaker that can help me out :)
[02:18] <dooglus> !es
[02:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:18] <carvalho> brasil
[02:18] <transgress> [snape] : #ubuntu-es
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Okay, that all sounds good, but you may need to walk me through that stuff.  (I've only been on Linux for two months so far.)  So this may be a private message situation.
[02:19] <[snape] > gracias
[02:19] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: lol, 2:19am here. 3 glasses of whisky
[02:19] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: you are an optimist!
[02:19] <sunshine82> does anyone know how i can get ALSA OSS emulation laye
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Oh boy, that could get interesting.  8:19pm for me.
[02:20] <Jowi> sunshine82: sudo apt-get install alsa-oss
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: So what your saying is, just try some stuff, and if it hoses the system, hey, I learn something, right?
[02:20] <Daedric> guys... help me with something... i've used debian.. and so i'm used to apt sometimes... for example... why does apt-cache basilisk returns results in debian, and NOT in ubunto?
[02:20] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: not a real good way to learn ...
[02:20] <transgress> actually is it possible to reinstall a package after building it from source?  because if i try to uninstall firefox first it's gonna be pissed and try to remove a lot of stuff that depends on it
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: Do you have a better idea?
[02:21] <nalioth> Daedric: because basilisk is not available in ubuntu?
[02:21] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: yeah, wife's gone to bed and no beer and it's friday. gotta make the best of the situation.
[02:21] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[02:21] <Daedric> nalioth is it so? :(
[02:22] <crimsun> transgress: rephrase, please
[02:22] <nalioth> !info basilisk
[02:22] <cafuego_> basilisk2 - 68k Macintosh emulator
[02:22] <cafuego_> !info basikisk2
[02:22] <mojo> i have a question about ubuntu on Dell Inspiron 8100 if anyone has any experience with that
[02:22] <zeropc> !info help
[02:22] <Jowi> going to bed gents and ladies
[02:22] <Daedric> !info basilisk2
[02:22] <ubotu> basilisk2: (68k Macintosh emulator), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.9.20030722-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 237 kB, Installed size: 800 kB
[02:22] <cafuego_> Of course, not typo3ijng would help
[02:22] <Jowi> good luck tonyyarusso
[02:22] <Jowi> oh and let me know how it went
[02:22] <imajuchi> nalioth do you know how can i use k3b or gnomebaker as a normal user to burn data dvd
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Thanks, and will do.
[02:23] <nalioth> imajuchi: you should be able to use them just fine as a normal user
[02:23] <cafuego_> imajuchi: Insert a blank dvd. Click teh button, add files, click 'Burn to disc'.
[02:23] <sunshine82> crimsun ur right i already have the two files
[02:23] <imajuchi> i get an error message right away
[02:23] <dooglus> you might have to run k3b as root the first time - that's something I seem to remember.  is it still true?
[02:24] <imajuchi> i mess up like ten dvds already :)
[02:24] <sunshine82> crimsun but im still gettin an error in skype that there something wrong with my sound device it wouldnot letm e call out
[02:24] <sunshine82> or receive calls
[02:24] <crimsun> sunshine82: you need to close all apps accessing /dev/dsp
[02:24] <imajuchi> the same happens with kino, i can not grab any video with out going to sudo first
[02:24] <nalioth> starscalling: hello
[02:24] <cafuego_> imajuchi: If they mess up, try burning them at a lower speed.
[02:25] <imajuchi> i actually do but it complains something about authentication failure
[02:25] <imajuchi> ill tell you right now
[02:26] <cafuego_> sheesh, this nforce3 audio sounds like shite
[02:26] <imajuchi> kbuildsycoca running...
[02:26] <imajuchi> imajuchi@user-0cdfe7t:~$ find: /dev/.static: Permission denied
[02:27] <blackops> hello
[02:27] <blackops> how are things going
[02:28] <starscalling> heh
[02:28] <starscalling> thankyou nalioth
[02:28] <sunshine82> crimsun how do i do that
[02:28] <starscalling> and im sorry to whoever "i" pissed off :/ i have an arsehole rommate !_!
[02:28] <HiddenWolf> I've removed my /dev/hda, so now I need to teach grub to boot from hd(0,0) rather than hd(1,0) - I've updated device.map, ran update-grub and grub-install, but it's still not fixed.
[02:28] <starscalling> Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixmap_new: assertion `(width != 0) && (height != 0)' failed.  <<--- could someone please help me with this error?
[02:29] <crimsun> sunshine82: lsof /dev/dsp*
[02:29] <sizzam> i need advice on getting quicktime .mov  to play in totem-xine
[02:31] <blackops> tell me if i am wrong, you need the w32codecs to get .mov files to work
[02:31] <cafuego_> starscalling: if the software crashes with that error, just give up. if it keeps running, ignore the error.
[02:31] <g|patrick> hi
[02:31] <cafuego_> blackops: You're wrong.
[02:31] <g|patrick> someone using kopete in here?
[02:31] <blackops> thank you
[02:31] <blackops> hehe
[02:31] <nalioth> blackops: libquicktime1
[02:32] <starscalling> cafuego it keeps running.. but i was wondering what sorts of things could cause that.. or fix it?
[02:32] <blackops> thankyou
[02:32] <cafuego_> g|patrick: More chance in #kubuntu
[02:32] <starscalling> is there a way to update gdk or something?
[02:32] <cafuego_> starscalling: Bad coding, just ignore it.
[02:32] <starscalling> o ok thanx ^^
[02:32] <cafuego_> starscalling: Think of it as debug info, rather than a real error.
[02:32] <starscalling> o.o sweet.
[02:33] <starscalling> perhaps i can make xchat filter it out :P
[02:33] <Aven> yo peeps
[02:33] <starscalling> thats my only current problem with ubuntu btw
[02:33] <starscalling> which makes it totale good :)
[02:33] <Aven> what plugin do I need to get stream video working?
[02:34] <g|patrick> cafuego: no
[02:34] <g|patrick> i am there
[02:34] <g|patrick> they only advised me to follow the faqs
[02:34] <foampeace> the wine doesnt work with winetools
[02:34] <transgress> woo... firefox takes what... 3 hours to build from source?  heh
[02:34] <Aven> foampeace: not everything does
[02:34] <g|patrick> but these faqs/docs are useless
[02:34] <g|patrick> the dont explain how to install themes
[02:34] <g|patrick> :(
[02:34] <Aven> I'm using mirc with wine and it'sr reeeeally buggy
[02:35] <transgress> so in about 3 hours... i'll have me a nice debian package of my own to try to see if it is b0rked as well...
[02:35] <Aven> guys..
[02:35] <nalioth> g|patrick: did you visit the kopete website and peruse their faqs?
[02:35] <Aven> what do I need to get stream video working?
[02:35] <Aven> I just need a name and to use apt-get
[02:35] <foampeace> wine seems to have sucked since it was conceived
[02:35] <g|patrick> nalioth: both
[02:35] <nalioth> Aven: depends on the stream
[02:36] <g|patrick> docs.kde.org and kopete.kde.org
[02:36] <nalioth> g|patrick: have you asked the almighty google?
[02:36] <Aven> well, just name me any good stream ;p
[02:36] <g|patrick> if i'd been a believer i would try that x)
[02:36] <g|patrick> ah
[02:36] <g|patrick> google
[02:36] <g|patrick> no... google outputs complaints about missing direct filetransfer in kopete
[02:38] <Aven> hrm
[02:38] <thunderguy> Hey, My system got struck by lightning earlier today, well the power did, and when I rebooted I had to run e2fsck to check my "/" I had tons of errors, but I noticed Gnome will not start up now after that hit, any ideas?
[02:39] <sunshine82> crimsun it said dev/dsp is spkpe and dev/dsp2 is skype too
[02:39] <blackops> has anyone tryed joining ubuntu to a windows 2000 active directory domain
[02:39] <crimsun> sunshine82: shouldn't be anything wrong then
[02:40] <Tracy_P> ubuntu 5.10 won't complete the install, how can I get more information about why?
[02:40] <reiki> thunderguy: lightning strikes do REALLY weird stuff. My advice would be to get whatever you can from the drive as far as urgent data files and then do a complete reinstall. You could be tracking down little problems for a VERY long time and STILL have a bunch of weirdness
[02:41] <thunderguy> k.
[02:42] <reiki> thunderguy: also keep a VERY close watch on the machine. If all you got out of this is some whacked files I'd be real surprised. Did you have a UPS on there or just a surge suppressor?
[02:42] <sunshine82> crimsun when i try to call my friends it doesnt work it say sound device error and take me to theis page http://www.skype.com/help/guides/soundsetup_linux.html
[02:43] <thunderguy> reiki: a UPS
[02:44] <thunderguy> reiki: See the funny thing is, the UPS ran out of power before I got to it.
[02:44] <reiki> thunderguy: if it's an APC or similar quality they usually have insurance against lightning if your equipment got borked, HOWEVER all bets are off if you have unprotected entry into the hardware like through the network jack
[02:45] <thunderguy> reiki: well really I think the lightning just struck a pole nearby, its when I turned it back on it had e2fsck errors, and whatever job gnome was doing, it couldn't save to, and it messed the whole gnome up.
[02:45] <reiki> thunderguy: doesn't matter if the battery went down. I've seen APC UPS units take a hard hit that actually melted the "front" half of the UPS. Send it to APC and they REPLACED the UPS free of charge. And it did its job
[02:46] <bur[n] er> evening all
[02:46] <blackops> evening
[02:47] <reiki> thunderguy: I've had lightning hit a tree next door... almost 200 feet away... and it STILL fried a dimmer switch in my dining room. Has to be a heck of a corona around a lightning bolt :)
[02:47] <herrpoonstrikes> hi, how do i find out a list of all current proceses?
[02:47] <wfry> the only res in xorg.conf is 1280x768 (native of my screen) but the only option in screen resolution is 1024x768
[02:47] <thunderguy> heh.
[02:47] <thunderguy> Well I mean the computer works, I'm in irssi right now, I just don't have a desktop.
[02:47] <bur[n] er> herrpoonstrikes: gnome-system-monitor
[02:48] <herrpoonstrikes> thanks :)
[02:48] <thunderguy> I also just installed gnome, today.
[02:48] <reiki> thunderguy: if you were without power AND the UPS battery went dead, it's *possible* that it just died while writing files and screwed stuff up .... you COULD come out clean with either a lot of work or a reinstall
[02:48] <bur[n] er> np
[02:48] <thunderguy> not gnome.. Ubuntu, I installed the whole thing today
[02:48] <herrpoonstrikes> also one more question :P
[02:48] <herrpoonstrikes> where do i find out my bash histroy?
[02:48] <bur[n] er> ~/.bash_history
[02:48] <herrpoonstrikes> arff
[02:48] <herrpoonstrikes> thanks
[02:49] <bur[n] er> np
[02:49] <reiki> thunderguy and you had a gnome desktop before the lightning incident?
[02:49] <thunderguy> Yep, it was running.
[02:49] <bur[n] er> try just rebooting again?
[02:49] <thunderguy> well I haven't tried rebooting again heh.
[02:50] <reiki> thunderguy : hmmm... maybe you can just sudo apt-get gnome-desktop. Someone else will have to speak up if that will just reinstall and/or fix broken files
[02:50] <KinkoBlast> Hi, i'm looking for an easyish language to replace qbasic. Any recomendations?
[02:50] <reiki> thunderguy oops... that'd be sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[02:51] <thunderguy> yeah, I'm going to my sources.list now to replace it with the CD.
[02:52] <KinkoBlast> Hi, i'm looking for an easyish language to replace qbasic. Any recomendations?
[02:52] <cevizoglu> ruby
[02:52] <cevizoglu> or python
[02:53] <thunderguy> What type of filesystem is a Cd?
[02:53] <KinkoBlast> cevizoglu: Refferences?
[02:53] <herrpoonstrikes> sorry im full of question tonight!  whats the best way to clear the bash histroy?
[02:53] <thunderguy> I was trying -t cdfs =/
[02:53] <cevizoglu> KinkoBlast, google
[02:53] <KinkoBlast> thunderguy: ISO something or other
[02:53] <reiki> thunderguy: iso9660?
[02:53] <cevizoglu> KinkoBlast, it has the most current refs  ;)
[02:54] <xulMunkee> hurrah for ubuntu!
[02:54] <B_166-ER-X> i am about to reformat, but what should i backup if i dont want to lose my UT2004 game ?
[02:54] <KinkoBlast> um
[02:54] <cevizoglu> B_166-ER-X, huh?  are you running UT2004 native?
[02:55] <reiki> thunderguy :  /dev/cdrom  /cd  iso9660  ro,user,noauto,unhide
[02:55] <reiki> that's from fstab but you get the idea
[02:55] <KinkoBlast> Might as well change your name to K2-L
[02:56] <B_166-ER-X> cevizoglu ? native ?  you mean installed on my linux partition ? yes.
[02:56] <thunderguy> Great, apparently my dvd-rw does not exist.
[02:57] <KinkoBlast> B_166-ER-X: Are you using "wine"?
[02:57] <cevizoglu> B_166-ER-X, native as in doesn't need emulation
[02:57] <B_166-ER-X> KinkoBlast,  no : there IS a linuxinstall.sh on the UT2004 cd's ...
[02:57] <B_166-ER-X> i have it under linux.
[02:57] <KinkoBlast> b_16-ER-X EXUSE ME THEN! I was just asking! I don't have UT 2004!
[02:58] <thunderguy> Yeah, it didn't automount the cd, or mount it when I asked because it doesn't recognize it as a device currently.
[02:58] <thunderguy> uh-oh, My power is taking a hit again.
[02:58] <B_166-ER-X> thunderguy http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17607
[02:58] <thunderguy> Hey I'd go there, but I don't have a text browser.
[02:59] <thunderguy> maybe I'll try xstart mozilla firefox
[02:59] <TiMiDo> thunderguy do sudo apt-get install lynx or links
[02:59] <KinkoBlast> isn't lynx preinstalled?
[02:59] <TiMiDo> Not really Kingbahamut
[02:59] <thunderguy> Nope, its on the cd but I can't mount the cd.
[02:59] <gimmulf>  [warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this UID (0). You must fix this to proceed.   --- How do i fix that?
[02:59] <gimmulf> how do i give it my usr right
[02:59] <TiMiDo> gimmulf man chmod
[02:59] <gimmulf> chmod 777 ?
[03:00] <TiMiDo> that's to give access to everyone gimmulf
[03:00] <gimmulf> true :)
[03:00] <KinkoBlast> apt-get is smare enough to get it from the net
[03:00] <KinkoBlast> I think
[03:00] <TiMiDo> damn i want to go out,
[03:00] <TiMiDo> my dad doesn't want to lend me the freaking Car
[03:00] <gimmulf> TiMiDo:  dont understand that man :) cant you say thoose 3 numbers?
[03:01] <TiMiDo> gimmulfm man chmod is easy
[03:01] <cevizoglu> gimmulf, chmod 775 is more normal
[03:01] <thunderguy> Yeah I started xinit mozilla-firefox and got to the page.
[03:01] <gimmulf> thanks
[03:01] <cevizoglu> normal as in commonly used
[03:01] <thunderguy> It's just gnome acting up, the Xserver still works and loads programs.
[03:01] <KinkoBlast> gimmulf: Do you meen chown or chmod?
[03:01] <gimmulf> ahhh true it must be chown
[03:02] <gimmulf> when its user right
[03:02] <gimmulf> s
[03:02] <gimmulf> then i know
[03:02] <gimmulf> thanks
[03:04] <KinkoBlast> Gah
[03:05] <KinkoBlast> Can I set it up so I can use the button on my CD ROM drive to eject the disk?
[03:05] <rixth> Under Totem's preferences, there are TV-Out options, what package do I need to enable 'TV-Out in fullscreen by Nvidia (PAL)"?
[03:05] <KinkoBlast> Hi
[03:05] <rixth> KinkoBlast, I have th same problem. You know you can use 'sudo eject' though?
[03:06] <KinkoBlast> rixth: Yeh, but I'm used to using the button.
[03:06] <Kream> !info avidemux
[03:07] <Kream> is there a way I can search if a particular package exists in Ubuntu universe ? I'm not using ubuntu right now
[03:07] <jalex> Where i find the driver for WIRELESS device?
[03:07] <crimsun> Kream: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:07] <jalex> please HELp-me
[03:07] <crimsun> jalex: what sort of wireless device?
[03:07] <rixth> 'Compiling Totem with libnvtvsimple installed should make the options
[03:07] <rixth> available' good to know.
[03:08] <pupil> jalex, I need to know that as well,. propbably from the manufacturer?
[03:08] <Hobbsee> KinkoBlast: check that you have the package "eject" installed
[03:09] <jalex> i use the SAMSUNG Wlan MiniPCI/PCI card
[03:09] <thunderguy> dang, I reinstalled every single gnome component from the cd.
[03:09] <thunderguy> and it still doesn't work.
[03:09] <Aven> help me!
[03:09] <jalex> where i find this
[03:09] <aeon17x> Uh, is there a command that lets you list all of the installed packages you have? Something that can be copy pasted to a text file.
[03:09] <Aven> What do I need to install to make video stream work?
[03:10] <jason0_> Installed breezy on a ibm thinkpad t22, everything seems to work but the NIC. It appears to be recognized (eth0, etc) but DHCP fails. The connection works fine with my desktop. Could this be an IPV6 issue?
[03:10] <jalex> crimsun
[03:10] <jalex> pupil
[03:10] <jalex> i dont use apt-get, where i find the mp3 plugins crimsun
[03:10] <crimsun> jalex: look at lspci -v output for Ethernet controller or Network controller
[03:10] <crimsun> jalex: gstreamer0.8-mad is in universe
[03:11] <sector10> !mp3
[03:11] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[03:11] <jalex> crimsun gstreamer0.8-mad where i find this!
[03:11] <aeon17x> !synaptic
[03:11] <ubotu> hmm... synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:11] <jalex> !wireless
[03:11] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:11] <Severian> jason0_, I had a similar problem with Hoary on two Thinkpads, an A20M and a T21.  I just put pcmcia nics in both.  I may try the T21 tonight with Breezy.
[03:12] <xulin> hi!
[03:12] <xulin> i have a problme ..
[03:12] <crimsun> jason0_: err, I accidentally addressed the lspci comment to jalex
[03:12] <xulin> keybord don't work .. on my imac :s .. with breezy
[03:13] <jason0_> Severian: I don't have wireless, I guess this is an excuse to go pickup some hardware
[03:14] <krista29> hey all!
[03:14] <crimsun> jason0_: look in lspci -v output for Ethernet controller or Network controller
[03:14] <erisco> yes! upgraded to 5.10!
[03:14] <krista29> how are u all today?
[03:15] <erisco> i love the new background, it alone was worth the trouble
[03:15] <erisco> where is the "guide" to 5.10?
[03:15] <Severian> Might be.  Did you say this was a wireless nic?  The mini-pci nic on my ThinkPads were wired, not wireless.
[03:15] <gimmulf> isnt it dpkg install <package>.deb   ?
[03:15] <jason0_> crimsun: Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100]  (rev 0c)
[03:15] <gimmulf> or did i miss something :)
[03:15] <jason0_> It seems to detect it okay
[03:15] <jason0_> Its wired.
[03:16] <crimsun> jason0_: yeah, eepro100?
[03:16] <gimmulf> isnt it dpkg install <package>.deb   <--- is this command correct or did i miss something?
[03:16] <Bicchi> anyone using yamipod to handle music on the ipod?
[03:17] <erisco> isn't there a guide to 5.10 like tehre was for 5.04?
[03:17] <jason0_> crimsun: just did a modprobe eepro100
[03:17] <crimsun> jason0_: if it was already detected, you probably didn't need to load any other driver
[03:17] <gimmulf> Cant anyone help me with that dpkg command ? :)
[03:17] <KinkoBlast> Hmm. Does anyone know if the origional Unreal has a Linux engine? I need SOMETHING to blow the crap out of on here :-)
[03:17] <jason0_> Hm..
[03:17] <Severian> jason0_, That is normally a good nic, that is well supported.  But the mini-pci one in ThinkPads are problematic.  At the time I first st mine up, I did some research and a lot of people had similar problems.  Some could get around it by adding a kernael boot parameter of NOAPIC.  That fix worked intermittently for me.
[03:18] <jason0_> hm.. I could try that
[03:18] <crimsun> jason0_: there are actually two drivers that you can choose from, eepro100 and e100
[03:18] <Severian> gimmulf, what do you want to do?   Install a package with  dpkg -i package.deb
[03:18] <steigweis> what ubuntu do you recommend for a very slow old ibm thinkpad 600E notebook? i want to have fluxbox or sth. as wm
[03:18] <Tracy_P> is 1gig big enough for ubuntu 5.10 to install into?
[03:19] <jason0_> Any cards taht work out of the box?
[03:19] <gimmulf> Severian: Thanks!
[03:19] <jason0_> sorry, that is wifi
[03:19] <harms2> isnt there some miniubuntu?
[03:19] <Severian> 600E slow, surely you jest.  Most of my work is on a Thinkpad 570
[03:19] <steigweis> harms2: :)
[03:20] <crimsun> Tracy_P: you need ~2 GB
[03:20] <steigweis> ehhzthere is ubuntulite, but its crap
[03:20] <harms2> im pretty new to linux tho, started learning it days ago
[03:20] <crimsun> steigweis: xubuntu-desktop
[03:20] <Tracy_P> thanks
[03:20] <crimsun> steigweis: (Xfce)
[03:20] <steigweis> Severian: did you install ubuntu with gnome?
[03:20] <Severian> steigweis, yup
[03:20] <steigweis> crimsun: is xfce faster than fluxbox?
[03:20] <KinkoBlast> I've heard that ther eis a Linux engine for DooM. Is this true?
[03:20] <hyperactivecrond> steigweis: how can you not 8:)
[03:20] <harms2> how do i logout of X
[03:20] <hyperactivecrond> KinkoBlast: prboom
[03:21] <thoreauputic> steigweis: no
[03:21] <harms2> i need to install some drivers it seems
[03:21] <hyperactivecrond> harms2: which wm
[03:21] <crimsun> steigweis: Xfce is an environment, much lighter weight than GNOME. fluxbox is only a window manager.
[03:21] <Severian> steigweis.  I have 6 of the 570s.  Two have plain old Ubuntu with Gnome.
[03:21] <hyperactivecrond> !tell steigweis about xfce
[03:21] <crimsun> steigweis: (you'd have to compare Xfce's xfwm4 to fluxbox for it to be a fair comparison)
[03:21] <aeon17x> is there a command that lets you list all of your installed packages and dump it to a text file?
[03:21] <crimsun> aeon17x: dpkg -l
[03:22] <aeon17x> oh, thanks
[03:22] <KinkoBlast> !tell kinkoblast about xfce
[03:22] <hyperactivecrond> dpkg -l > baz
[03:22] <crimsun> aeon17x: Synaptic can also store the package status
[03:22] <judax> #ubuntu-doc
[03:23] <rixth> When I try and compile totem, I get "checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables"
[03:23] <rixth> Any ideas?
[03:23] <hyperactivecrond> !build-essential
[03:23] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:23] <hyperactivecrond> rixth: apt-get install build-essential
[03:23] <hyperactivecrond> !tell rixth about gcc
[03:23] <durt> why are you compiling totem
[03:23] <erisco> what is the link to the ubuntu 5.10 starter guide? i cannot find a link anywhere. i even googled it.
[03:23] <hyperactivecrond> !wiki
[03:24] <Severian> rixth, what directory are you in when you do this.  Is it one where you have write permissions?
[03:24] <harms2> press the help button :p
[03:24] <hyperactivecrond> erisco: chek the wiki <https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:24] <rixth> hyperactivecrond, I've already got GCC & G++. durt I am compiling it because I am builidng libnvtv into it so I can get TV out.
[03:24] <j-linux> Is it possible to put OO 2 on the same computer that runs OO 1 ?
[03:24] <aeon17x> erisco: it's also in the Ubuntu help files installed in your box.
[03:24] <hyperactivecrond> you _need_ build-essential
[03:24] <thoreauputic> erisco: in the topic - see help.ubuntu.com
[03:24] <KinkoBlast> j-linux: Should be.....
[03:24] <hyperactivecrond> !compile
[03:24] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, compile is tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand  Ask me about <compiling>
[03:25] <j-linux> Is OOo 2 going to be put in the repositories soon?
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> j-linux: openoffice2 beta is in now
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> for breezy
[03:25] <erisco> i found it, thanks hyperactivecrond
[03:25] <linuxpoet> OpenOffice 2.0 is out in gold
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> np erisco
[03:25] <KinkoBlast> Hyperactive: It JUST came out of RC actualy
[03:25] <j-linux> hyperactivecrond: it's not beta anymore.  I think it is out now.
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> KinkoBlast: heh.
[03:25] <erisco> i like the 5.04 starter guide layout much better...
[03:25] <KinkoBlast> Hyperactive: It's just not in the repos yet.
[03:25] <erisco> oh well
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> MK all
[03:25] <aeon17x> j-linux: the Ubuntu folks have to confirm it doesn't break anything of course, so wait a while.
[03:26] <harms2> well can any1 explain to me how i can log out of X?
[03:26] <j-linux> Has anyone here upgraded hoary to breezy, and were there any complications with your experience?  (breezy contains OOo2?)
[03:27] <dazvid> j-linux, yes Breezy has 00o2
[03:27] <N45800> I updated to breezy with no problems
[03:27] <KinkoBlast> god, I keep using the wrong keyboard
[03:28] <harms2> can anyone tell me how i can log out of X? im getting sick of 60Hz refreshrate :/
[03:28] <hyperactivecrond> harms2: ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:28] <harms2> need to install nvidia drivers
[03:28] <j-linux> Sorry, one more question:  Some of my programs take 5 minutes to start -- literally.  Evolution, GIMP, Galeon and a few others.  Anyone have any ideas why it might be, or how I can figure out what is wrong?
[03:28] <harms2> tnx
[03:28] <hyperactivecrond> !nvidia-glx
[03:28] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:28] <steigweis> what if i prefer fluxbox as wm? should i also take Xubuntu or ubuntu with gnome ?
[03:28] <hyperactivecrond> !nvidia
[03:28] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:28] <j-linux> I'm using XFCE
[03:28] <Hobbsee> j-linux: done it twice, worked once, screwed up once - far safer to install off a cd if you can
[03:28] <B_166-ER-X> what is the format of partition i should put ? exactly reimesf ? something like that ..
[03:28] <KinkoBlast> Pablo_C: Wouldn't work. One needs a PS2 keyboard (this one) and my mac doesn't even have a PS2 port.
[03:29] <hyperactivecrond> B_166-ER-X: depends
[03:29] <Pablo_C> oh
[03:29] <Pablo_C> ;)
[03:29] <KinkoBlast>  /me kills Pablo_C
[03:29] <B_166-ER-X> hyperactivecrond what are the choices ?
[03:29] <Pablo_C> what mac is it?
[03:29] <hyperactivecrond> B_166-ER-X: do a reiserfs filesystem (IMHO guys) it's fast and stable
[03:29] <hyperactivecrond> !disk layout
[03:29] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: What?
[03:29] <Pablo_C> if it is a g5 your are forgiven
[03:30] <KinkoBlast> Pablo_C: An older iMac running OS X 10.3.9
[03:30] <j-linux> Hobbsee: do you mean to install from CD from scratch (clean install?)
[03:30] <Pablo_C> :\
[03:30] <Pablo_C> whats the processor speed?
[03:30] <KinkoBlast> Pablo_C: I dunno.
[03:30] <Pablo_C> is it pink?
[03:30] <N45800> kinkoblast: G4 or G5?
[03:30] <Pablo_C> its a g3 prolly
[03:30] <N45800> kinkoblast: or g3?
[03:31] <hyperactivecrond> eergh you need g4's iirc
[03:31] <B_166-ER-X> thankx
[03:31] <Hobbsee> j-linux: yeah, hoping you have a separate /home partition.  if not, create one during the install
[03:31] <N45800> kinkoblast: go to apple menu, about this mac, it tell you there
[03:31] <xulin> nanuit
[03:31] <hyperactivecrond> look on the main <a HREF=www.ubuntu.com>Page</a<
[03:31] <hyperactivecrond> and I know that you can't use html in irc guys
[03:31] <j-linux> Hobbsee: no separate /home partition unfortunately
[03:31] <KinkoBlast> 400 mhz PPC G3
[03:31] <lsald> wow, nice to see another ppc user
[03:31] <erisco> okay even on 5.10 the updates are complaining about my signature key!
[03:32] <KinkoBlast> And it's staying with OS X, TYVM.
[03:32] <erisco> stupid backports...
[03:32] <Hobbsee> j-linux: burn the contents of /home, including hidden files, to a cd or something, and then you can copy them back after you create /home on a separate partition during the install
[03:32] <hyperactivecrond> Kinkoblast: www.ubuntu.com
[03:32] <Hobbsee> !tell erisco about gpgerr
[03:32] <N45800> does anyone know how to set up MIDI support using a SB Live 24 bit?
[03:32] <lsald> KinkoBlast, blow OS X away, live a little
[03:32] <hyperactivecrond> and tell me what it says on the front page about ubuntu and ppc
[03:32] <Pablo_C> you running ubuntu on this mac?
[03:33] <KinkoBlast> hyperactivecrond: I like OS X, TYVM. Ubuntu is happy on my old Windows box.
[03:33] <lsald> as debian says , a niche within a niche
[03:33] <lsald> ppc linux
[03:33] <hyperactivecrond> ah
[03:34] <KinkoBlast> hyperactivecrond: If it makes you feel better, I use ssh -X to use stuff on this box alot :-)
[03:34] <lsald> KinkoBlast, I always used -Y
[03:35] <KinkoBlast> lsad: its -X on mine. -Y on Cygwin, and I dunno everywhere else
[03:35] <robotgeek> is it not busy in here, or am i lagging :)
[03:35] <KinkoBlast> Want the manpage? I'll dump it for you if you want proof that its -X
[03:35] <Maikeru> isn't -X pretty slow?
[03:35] <lsald> KinkoBlast, os x says to use -Y
[03:36] <hyperactivecrond> kinko :)
[03:36] <Maikeru> I mean, I guess over LAN it's not, but man
[03:36] <Maikeru> from my server to desktop it is
[03:36] <Maikeru> ;)
[03:36] <KinkoBlast> Which version of OS X?
[03:37] <KinkoBlast> I'm on 10.3.9
[03:37] <lsald> KinkoBlast, psh, any mac person knows we only run the latest and greatest, 10.4
[03:37] <lsald> ;)
[03:38] <KinkoBlast> lsad: I doubt 10.4 would WORK on this computer
[03:38] <hyperactivecrond> ubuntu-offtopic guys bc we have too much noise here...
[03:38] <icemilo> errmm.. is anyone here..?
[03:38] <hyperactivecrond> no icemilo :) we're all invisible
[03:38] <kingright> i need a good movie player
[03:38] <kingright> for like avi
[03:39] <icemilo> hyperactivecrond: ermm.. my gaim wont connect to msn.. yesterday night, i was able to connect for only once.. and it cannot connect after that..
[03:39] <robotgeek> kingright: vlc or totem-xine
[03:39] <KinkoBlast> lsad: It's a 400 mhz g3. But whatever. We are off topic (even if we are talking about how to ssh into ubuntu with x11 fowarding!)
[03:39] <hyperactivecrond> kingright: totem
[03:39] <lsald> kingright, I have found VLC to work quite nicely
[03:39] <KinkoBlast> V-L-C! V-L-C!
[03:39] <kingright> i cant get vlc to install right
[03:39] <icemilo> any solutions..? -0-a
[03:39] <hyperactivecrond> icemilo: m$n is allergic to gaim :) no seriously i dont know
[03:39] <KinkoBlast> sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:40] <robotgeek> kingright: can u elaborate?
[03:40] <lsald> kingright,  sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:40] <icemilo> hmm.. =_=
[03:40] <Maikeru> neone know of a KDE app
[03:40] <Maikeru> that loads fast
[03:40] <KinkoBlast> or via synaptic
[03:40] <Maikeru> I wanna test something
[03:40] <kingright> sudo apt-get install vlcE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:40] <kingright> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:40] <icemilo> any good mp3 player in ubuntu?
[03:40] <KinkoBlast> Maikeru: Isn't that an oxymoron? But kturtle is fairly quick to start on my GNOME desktop
[03:41] <Parisi> kingright Likely
[03:41] <Maikeru> mmk
[03:41] <KinkoBlast> !tell icemilo about mp3
[03:41] <kingright> thats what i get
[03:41] <robotgeek> kingright: get the process id by doing lsof /var/lib/dpkg , and kill it
[03:41] <Parisi> kingright find what process is using it and kill it
[03:41] <TiMiDo> mpg123 is cool to play mp3
[03:41] <nalioth> kingright: close all your apt-gets or synaptics
[03:41] <Parisi> Ah man, its good to be back on broadband
[03:41] <nalioth> kingright: you can use only one at a time
[03:42] <KinkoBlast> Prboom is installed. Now where is that CD of iwads.....
[03:42] <kingright> now i get
[03:42] <icemilo> KinkoBlast: This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.
[03:42] <kingright> Reading package lists... Done
[03:42] <kingright> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:42] <kingright> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[03:42] <Parisi> a dvd iso under 1:30 is sweeeet :)
[03:42] <robotgeek> kingright: you have to enable the universe repository
[03:42] <lsald> kingright, uncomment universial in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:43] <kingright> i did
[03:43] <robotgeek> kingright: did you apt-get upgrade afterwards?
[03:43] <lsald> kingright, sudo apt-get update
[03:43] <dazvid> did you apt-get update
[03:43] <robotgeek> kingright: err. update
[03:43] <kingright> # deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main
[03:43] <kingright> # deb-src http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main
[03:43] <kingright> c
[03:44] <kingright> same thing
[03:44] <robotgeek> kingright: do not install debian packages unless u really need to
[03:44] <icemilo> hmm..
[03:44] <lsald> kingright, not the same, comment those out and use the universal repos.
[03:44] <nalioth> kingright: what is that you are pasting? vlc is available from ubuntu repos
[03:44] <KinkoBlast> # is a vomment
[03:44] <gimmulf> Doesnt Mplayer work on ubuntu?
[03:45] <ZinnKilla> Hi
[03:45] <Maikeru> gimmulf, yes
[03:45] <kingright> it is
[03:45] <kingright> how do i get it?
[03:45] <gimmulf> Maikeru:  how? the pavkages doesnt work
[03:45] <steigweis> if i want to have a slim ubuntu with fluxbox, should i choose the breezy ubuntu or Xubuntu? or isnt there a difference then?
[03:45] <rixth> "configure: error: you need the GStreamer or the xine-lib development packages installed" <<< I have libxine-dev though? Any ideas?
[03:45] <Maikeru> dunno: worked for me
[03:45] <ubuntu> hi
[03:45] <Maikeru> but I did mine back in hoary
[03:45] <Maikeru> so I unno
[03:45] <lsald> kingright, you need the original sources.list for ubuntu?
[03:45] <icemilo> hm...
[03:45] <robotgeek> rixth: what are you trying to compile?
[03:46] <icemilo> how to play songs with Amarok?
[03:46] <rixth> robotgeek, totem 1.2.0 using the sources from Gnome
[03:46] <KinkoBlast> Where do I put doom.wad for prboom?
[03:46] <Maikeru> neone in here use synce-?
[03:46] <icemilo> my amarok never worked.. -_-;
[03:46] <kingright> well that is all i put in to it but sure
[03:46] <ZinnKilla> Does anyone know how to get the the folder where Ubuntu's Boot image is?
[03:46] <robotgeek> rixth: get all dependencies by doing apt-get build-dep totem
[03:47] <robotgeek> rixth: maybe, even totem-xine :)
[03:47] <robotgeek> icemilo: di u try using the xine engine, it's pretty cool
[03:47] <kingright> i wish there was a easy way for me to install this
[03:47] <rixth> robotgeek, The only reason I'm not using the package is because I want TV out :)
[03:47] <icemilo> robotgeek: how to use xine?
[03:47] <KinkoBlast> go to synaptic
[03:47] <kingright> i just need to find some one that is good with linuz
[03:47] <KinkoBlast> enable univers
[03:47] <KinkoBlast> search for vlc
[03:47] <kingright> linux*
[03:47] <icemilo> robotgeek: my Amarok never worked.. with Arts and gstream
[03:48] <rixth> I never knoew about build-dep! Handy!
[03:48] <robotgeek> icemilo: use amarok with the xine ening
[03:48] <robotgeek> icemilo: *engine
[03:48] <kingright> its not there
[03:48] <icemilo> robotgeek: i didnt install xine engine . -_-
[03:48] <lsald> kingright, http://pastebin.com/401556
[03:48] <icemilo> robotgeek: how to install?
[03:48] <lsald> that is the default sources.list with universal
[03:48] <icemilo> apt-get install xine never works
[03:48] <icemilo> -_-a
[03:49] <kingright> ok ty
[03:49] <robotgeek> icemilo: moment
[03:49] <Cody`> where do I get win32 codecs for breezy?
[03:49] <icemilo> robotgeek: k
[03:49] <kingright> do i need the numbers on the side?
[03:49] <lsald> no
[03:49] <kingright> kk
[03:49] <robotgeek> icemilo: sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[03:49] <Madpilot> !tell Cody` about w32codecs
[03:49] <kingright> let me load it
[03:49] <erisco> when i removed everything from my lists folder for that signature fix... when is my 10min up?
[03:50] <icemilo> cannot find the package
[03:50] <icemilo> -_-;;
[03:50] <kingright> oh i have 5.04
[03:50] <erisco> it still isn't working... i will wait a bit longer
[03:50] <icemilo> robotgeek: hmm.. cannot find package.. :P
[03:50] <robotgeek> icemilo: you on hoary?
[03:50] <nalioth> erisco: 10min after you issue the command
[03:50] <KinkoBlast> How do I get to what was "d:/" on windows (A second hard drive)
[03:50] <steigweis> if i want to have a slim ubuntu with fluxbox, should i choose the breezy ubuntu or Xubuntu? or isnt there a difference then?
[03:51] <icemilo> robotgeek: nope breezy
[03:51] <kingright> lsald i have hoary
[03:51] <j-linux> Hobsee: sorry, I was out for a bit.  Thanks for that tip about the /home directory.  I will do that.  I also have files elsewhere on Hoary /var/www/websites, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, etc... :S
[03:51] <gimmulf> is there any stable .avi player ?
[03:51] <robotgeek> icemilo: universe repository,
[03:51] <kingright> VLC
[03:52] <Madpilot> gimmulf: Totem + codecs plays avi for me just fine
[03:52] <robotgeek> !tell icemilo about amarok-xine
[03:52] <lsald> kingright, did that work?
[03:52] <icemilo> ..?;;
[03:52] <kingright> i have hoary
[03:52] <icemilo> robotgeek: nothing came.. ;P
[03:52] <lsald> KinkoBlast, more that likely it is hdb
[03:52] <Madpilot> got to actually reboot... back in a bit
[03:52] <robotgeek> icemilo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/kde/amarok-xine
[03:52] <kingright> thats for  breezy
[03:52] <lsald> kingright, all you have to do is replace breezy with hoary
[03:53] <kingright> ok
[03:53] <kingright> brb
[03:53] <robotgeek> !tell icemilo about repos
[03:53] <KinkoBlast> lsald: umm....
[03:53] <KinkoBlast> lsad: Whad does he need to downgrade for?
[03:53] <erisco> lol, we need a #breezy channel... half the chat is asking what version everyone is using...
[03:53] <lsald> KinkoBlast, i am refering to the repos since he is running hoary
[03:53] <gimmulf> Maikeru:  where do i get thoose codecs?
[03:53] <KinkoBlast> lsad: Ah.
[03:54] <rixth> gimmulf, apt-get install totem-xine and get the codecs from weith the mplayer site or the mallirat (sp?) repo
[03:54] <hyperactivecrond> !w32codecs
[03:54] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[03:54] <Maikeru> ^^
[03:54] <DestroySBC> Hey i got a question
[03:54] <DestroySBC> does Ubuntu Support NTFS Read/Write
[03:54] <rixth> hyperactivecrond, remeber that totem-gstreamer doesn't work with w32codecs though. Or, not very well.
[03:54] <rixth> DestroySBC, not really.
[03:55] <rixth> DestroySBC, read yes
[03:55] <nalioth> DestroySBC: read-only
[03:55] <lsald> DestroySBC, no one does that i know of, not rw
[03:55] <steigweis> if i want to have a slim ubuntu with fluxbox as wm, should i choose the breezy ubuntu or Xubuntu? is breezy ubuntu with flux slower, than the xubuntu install with fluxbox? or is ther no difference?
[03:55] <andres_> hello
[03:55] <nalioth> steigweis: choose server install and add the components you want
[03:55] <dazvid> DestroySBC, yes and no.. its possible to write, but you risk breaking your hd :)
[03:55] <robotgeek> steigweis: not that it's slower
[03:55] <DestroySBC> damn then nvr mind
[03:56] <FR500> hello
[03:56] <FR500> i use some kde apps under gnome, how can i make it's fonts look smaller?
[03:56] <steigweis> thanks
[03:56] <Marelo> can anyone tell me if "emule" (or amule, xmule) is on the ubuntu repository?
[03:56] <icemilo> jeez.. -_-
[03:56] <icemilo> why doesnt my gaim work?
[03:56] <nalioth> Marelo: there are mules here, yes
[03:57] <icemilo> = _=
[03:57] <robotgeek> icemilo: able to install that pkg?
[03:57] <Marelo> nalioth, thanks
[03:57] <icemilo> robotgeek: setting up the universe repos
[03:57] <robotgeek> icemilo: kk
[03:57] <icemilo> thanks alot
[03:57] <icemilo> ^-^
[03:58] <icemilo> is there any other msn client in linux?
[03:58] <Marelo> nalioth, and is there a web-view of the repository, like debian does?
[03:58] <icemilo> instead of amsn
[03:58] <icemilo> -_-;
[03:58] <icemilo> gaim never works ! dang..
[03:58] <Marelo> icemilo, gaim
[03:58] <Marelo> oops
[03:58] <dazvid> icemilo, I use GAIM personally
[03:58] <icemilo> - _-;;
[03:58] <dazvid> It works fine?
[03:58] <Marelo> i always used gaim on linux, also
[03:58] <erisco> gaim is good
[03:59] <icemilo> yesterday, i was able to connect
[03:59] <nalioth> Marelo: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:59] <erisco> since it supports all the good im
[03:59] <icemilo> but .. it never connected since that
[03:59] <icemilo> -_-;
[03:59] <Marelo> there used to be a 'kopete', but i think it's discontinued
[03:59] <icemilo> kopete sucks -_-;
[03:59] <Marelo> nalioth, thanks
[03:59] <robotgeek> i even use gaim in linux
[03:59] <robotgeek> Marelo: nah, kopete still works in kde
[03:59] <erisco> okay i swear it has been more than 10min after i deleted the lsts
[03:59] <erisco> lists*
[04:00] <icemilo> any of u guys have router?
[04:00] <Marelo> robotgeek: still works or still are people working in it? that what i meant
[04:00] <dazvid> Nope
[04:00] <icemilo> cuz i think its my router setting for gaim -_-;
[04:00] <icemilo> hmm..
[04:00] <Marelo> icemilo, i have an alcatel speed touch (adsl modem) that works as a router, and never had problems with gaim
[04:00] <FR500> i use some kde apps under gnome, how can i make it's fonts look smaller?
[04:01] <kingright> i still get
[04:01] <icemilo> Marleo: any port forwarding or DMZ or anything?
[04:01] <kingright> Reading package lists... Done
[04:01] <kingright> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:01] <kingright> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[04:01] <robotgeek> Marelo: i think it's still under development.http://kopete.kde.org/
[04:01] <nalioth> kingright: enable all your repos, it's there
[04:01] <Marelo> icemilo, nope. just installed, and "let's ride"
[04:01] <Marelo> ^^
[04:01] <erisco> this signature fix isn't working and i am getting worried o0
[04:01] <kingright> how?
[04:01] <erisco> now i am just getting piles of errors
[04:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kingright about repos
[04:02] <icemilo> marco: thats odd.. -_-;
[04:02] <kingright> sorry in still new at linux
[04:02] <icemilo> Marelo: thats odd
[04:02] <icemilo> - _-;
[04:02] <nalioth> kingright: enable universe and multiverse repos
[04:02] <robotgeek> FR500: try adjusting it in kcontrol. launch by typing kcontrol & in a terminal
[04:02] <icemilo> robotgeek: downloading xine engine~ yay~
[04:02] <icemilo> = _=;
[04:02] <kingright> ok
[04:02] <Marelo> icemilo... yeap... sorry
[04:02] <kingright> let me see how
[04:03] <icemilo> any of u guys use gcc?
[04:03] <nikuramon> I have in the past
[04:03] <dazvid> icemilo, often yes
[04:03] <kingright> so add what is on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969?
[04:04] <erisco> i logged out a couple times, restarted... are there any other solutions to the signature key problem?
[04:04] <Marelo> hey guys, i'm actually a begginer at linux world, so, i still have many things, espcially my personal files under windows (ntfs)... how can i easily migrate then? or is there a way to tell linux to work with the ntfs?
[04:04] <dooglus> erisco: what's the problem?
[04:04] <FR500> robotgeek, i dont have kcontro
[04:04] <nalioth> kingright: use the pastebin for your version of ubuntu
[04:05] <icemilo> dazvid: how to install the header files
[04:05] <kingright> ?
[04:05] <icemilo> it seems that they dont install header files (?)
[04:05] <kingright> ok
[04:05] <gimmulf> Marelo:  how do i get totem to find thoose new installed codecs?
[04:05] <icemilo> -_-;
[04:05] <kingright> i get
[04:05] <nige> hi all
[04:05] <kingright> the add what it shows right?
[04:05] <nalioth> icemilo: look in synaptic for "linux-headers" to match your kernel
[04:05] <hyperactivecrond> !gcc
[04:05] <ubotu> gcc is, like, totally, the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.
[04:05] <CuriousCat> hello everyone!
[04:05] <robotgeek> FR500: apt-get install it, :)
[04:05] <nige> i am having problem with my desktop
[04:05] <hyperactivecrond> apt-get install build-essential
[04:05] <nalioth> kingright: make sure your's resembles it, yes
[04:05] <Marelo> gimmulf: dunno sorry. i'm a beginner
[04:06] <hyperactivecrond> if you can't compile
[04:06] <kingright> resambles?
[04:06] <nige> My places and system menus work but my application menu load for a 1 second then disappears ( i can use the menu at all)
[04:06] <Marelo> hey guys, i'm actually a begginer at linux world, so, i still have many things, espcially my personal files under windows (ntfs)... how can i easily migrate then? or is there a way to tell linux to work with the ntfs?
[04:06] <nige> any one know anything about this
[04:06] <gimmulf> rixth: did you know how to get  totem/vlc to find thoose new codecs?
[04:06] <GregAsche> what's the name of that tool that makes .deb files?
[04:06] <icemilo> Marelo: mount -t ntfs ....
[04:07] <nige> greg... alienware :)
[04:07] <nige> I think
[04:07] <Marelo> icemilo: but this way i only have read permissions, right?
[04:07] <robotgeek> GregAsche: many ways, most easy checkinstall
[04:07] <GregAsche> nige: no, the one that takes the source and makes a deb
[04:07] <GregAsche> checkinstall, that's it
[04:07] <nige> ah okay
[04:07] <icemilo> Marelo: u can always put the permisstion setting
[04:07] <kingright> tells me You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[04:08] <icemilo> Marelo: goto fstab and edit it :P
[04:08] <CuriousCat> Have a problem. I tried to install ndiswrapper. It seemed to install (no errors ) but i still can't get the wifi to work. Though that's not the real problem. The real one is that after installing ndiswrapper, i can no longer connect to our network via my lan cable. (this was working previously)  Any thoughts on how to get eth0 working again?
[04:08] <Marelo> icemilo, i mean, i can modify files in a ntfs partition? delete them... etc... that's what i mean
[04:08] <gimmulf> vlc
[04:08] <icemilo> Marelo: nope, u can only read 'e,
[04:08] <icemilo> 'em
[04:08] <nalioth> CuriousCat: i've found this a problem on my laptop, also. i just turn off the wireless when i'm wired
[04:08] <Marelo> icemilo... sigh... that's what i'm upset of.....
[04:08] <dooglus> Marelo: you should copy the files into your Linux filesystem from NTFS.  You can't write to NTFS safely from Linux
[04:08] <CuriousCat> nalioth: how do you turn it off?
[04:09] <icemilo> Marelo: ops.. sorry ^^;;
[04:09] <nige> ifconfig wlan0 dow
[04:09] <robotgeek> GregAsche: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPackagingGuide
[04:09] <snugglemonkey> anyone running a ubuntu web server with image majik or GD extensions for php and apache2?
[04:09] <nalioth> CuriousCat: in network-admin    (hit alt-f2 and type "gksudo network-admin")
[04:09] <Marelo> dooglus: so, it's just ctrl c / ctrl v?
[04:09] <kingright> oh i know
[04:09] <CuriousCat> nalioth: ah! ok. :) Will try that later
[04:09] <kingright> i need to sudo apt-get update
[04:09] <kingright> yes
[04:09] <_23meg> did you check if your ethernet adapter is the "default gateway" in network settings?
[04:09] <dooglus> Marelo: I would use the command line.  I don't know how good a job nautilus would make of it.
[04:09] <nalioth> kingright: yes
[04:10] <kingright> wow i get it some what
[04:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kingright about apt-gt
[04:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kingright about apt-get
[04:10] <kingright> now i can sudo apt-get install vlc
[04:10] <Marelo> dooglus: the sad thing is that I would have to copy gig's and gig's of files...
[04:10] <dooglus> Marelo: that's ok - it'll take a while, but you can wait, right?
[04:11] <snugglemonkey> anyone have a successful implenmentation of apache, php, php-gd to resize images?
[04:11] <ZinnKilla> Hi
[04:11] <gimmulf> What software should i use for .avi files? i've tried totem and vlc i halv also installed the win32 codecs but dont know if the software finds them
[04:11] <icemilo> robotgeek: it doesnt seem to play with xine engine too.. :P
[04:11] <nige> anyone know how to fix a broken gnome
[04:11] <nige> ?
[04:11] <Marelo> dooglus:  hehehe sure i can wait, i just don't have the FREE SPACE needed hehehehe
[04:11] <_23meg> try installing totem-xine
[04:11] <dooglus> Marelo: aah.  I see.
[04:11] <kingright> now im running apt-get -f install
[04:11] <K-Rich> Can anyone tell me what runlevels ubutu goes through on boot ?
[04:11] <aias_> nige, I used superglue on the one my cat broke
[04:11] <dooglus> Marelo: can you back the files up, then reformat the NTFS partition to ext3 or something, then restore them?
[04:12] <dooglus> K-Rich: 2
[04:12] <aias_> K-Rich, first rcS, then rc2
[04:12] <robotgeek> icemilo: what kind of a machine do you have. I have an old powerbook, and it works wonderfully well on mine :)
[04:12] <ben_2246> are there any linux media players that have a scenet cut editor type feature similar to zoomplayer? here's a link explaining what i mean: http://www.inmatrix.com/zplayer/scenecut.shtml
[04:12] <dooglus> K-Rich: grep "^id" /etc/inittab
[04:12] <icemilo> robotgeek: i have dell laptop.. which  i bought one month ago
[04:12] <nige> LOL
[04:12] <nige> thanks
[04:12] <nige> :)
[04:13] <gimmulf> _23meg:  totem-xine: Depends: libxine1c2 (>= 1.0.1) but it is not installable
[04:13] <Marelo> dooglus: i think i could... but the thing is that my family (and me too, won't lie) still uses windows, especially my family (users...) so i can just "blow everything"
[04:13] <gimmulf> E: Broken packages
[04:13] <K-Rich> dooglus, is that the only one? i'm trying to clean up the initi scripts and i have S20alsa-utils in rc2.d but it seems to be running the alsa script as well
[04:13] <nige> my startmenu in gnome is broken :(
[04:13] <nige> The applications menu doesnt work
[04:13] <nige> ")
[04:13] <robotgeek> icemilo: what do u mean by not playing?
[04:13] <nalioth> gimmulf: if you use non ubuntu repos, you'll have trouble all the way around
[04:13] <dooglus> K-Rich: level 'S' it run first, yes
[04:13] <Marelo> dooglus: ergo... i wanted a smarter solution... when will linux work fine with ntfs?? :(
[04:14] <icemilo> robotgeek: when i click play, it says 'playing' and it will show 'finished playing'
[04:14] <icemilo> -_-;
[04:14] <syn-ack> Marelo: For read only, yes
[04:14] <ben_2246> i think i may be the only person in the world who uses scene cut editor
[04:14] <Madpilot> has anyone gotten an ATI 9600XT card working w/ full 3d in Breezy? It worked fine in Hoary, I've followed the wiki, and I still can't get it running properly!
[04:14] <K-Rich> dooglus, okay that must be it... i though rcS.d was for single user mode only heh (well at least according to man init)
[04:14] <dooglus> Marelo: rumour has it that "captive NTFS" works well, using the Windows NTFS driver.  But I don't know for sure.
[04:14] <icemilo> robotgeek: the songs are from my ntfs drive..
[04:14] <robotgeek> icemilo: can you copy on to your non-ntfs drive, and try playing from there?
[04:14] <Marelo> dooglus: where can i read more about this captive?
[04:14] <FR500> dooglus, what player?
[04:14] <kingright> oh yes VLC is installing now
[04:14] <kingright> i love you all
[04:14] <dooglus> Marelo: google it
[04:15] <dooglus> FR500: I use mplayer-nogui
[04:15] <nomasteryoda|w> Marelo, captiventfs.sf.net i think
[04:15] <Marelo> dooglus: hehe sure. great old uncle google
[04:15] <Elsan> Seveas: Are you there?
[04:15] <FR500> dooglus, how are you accessing your ntfs drive? gnome vfs?
[04:15] <Marelo> nomasteryoda|w: thanks, i'll try
[04:15] <icemilo> robotgeek: wait let me try it
[04:15] <nomasteryoda|w> Marelo, yea he's almost as good as Great Uncle Ebbit
[04:15] <DonL> I install a number of players, and let the app find the one it likes
[04:15] <kingright> ok now the updater  came up
[04:15] <nomasteryoda|w> just google can't throw red rays of destruction
[04:16] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[04:16] <FR500> woops ntfs drive, it0s mounted right? so do you have the permissions?
[04:16] <Marelo> nomasteryoda|w: ebbit? dunno that... hehehe what's it?
[04:16] <nalioth> kingright: now all you have to do is pay attention to the red dot, and you'll stay up to date
[04:16] <nomasteryoda|w> Marelo, read "The 7th Tower" by Garth Nix
[04:16] <dooglus> K-Rich: look at your /etc/inittab - find the line beginning "si" - that shows the level used during system boot
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible for the root user to manually log out other users from the terminal without shutting down?
[04:16] <nomasteryoda|w> the series
[04:16] <kingright> thanks man
[04:16] <nomasteryoda|w> that is great set of books
[04:16] <kingright> i owe you onw
[04:17] <kingright> one*
[04:17] <nomasteryoda|w> tonyyarusso, yea
[04:17] <Marelo> nomasteryoda|w: ok... i'll try know more about them
[04:17] <dooglus> FR500: I very rarely access my NTFS drive.  When I do, I mount it with "mount /media/c"
[04:17] <robotgeek> tonyyarusso: kill the terminal session of the user, maybe?
[04:17] <icemilo> Marelo: errm.. when i copy the songs from ntfs to ext3 i see some "locker"icon on the mp3 file..
[04:17] <gimmulf> nalioth:  im just using ubunto respos
[04:17] <icemilo> oops
[04:17] <kingright> now if u ever need help in windows im your man lol
[04:17] <icemilo> robotgeek: errm.. when i copy the songs from ntfs to ext3 i see some "locker"icon on the mp3 file..
[04:17] <nalioth> gimmulf: well something sounds fishy cuz all the pkgs are meant to work nicely together
[04:17] <FR500> icemilo, you are not the owner of the file
[04:17] <Marelo> icemilo: what do you mean? what happen? what does it causes?
[04:17] <icemilo> hmm.. --
[04:18] <icemilo> i am the owner of the file -_-;
[04:18] <FR500> icemilo, type sudo chown yourusername filename
[04:18] <robotgeek> icemilo: copy as root :)
[04:18] <dooglus> icemilo: that means the file is readonly
[04:18] <icemilo> but i cannot even read. -_-;
[04:18] <dooglus> icemilo: you want to "chmod +w *.mp3" to make the writable
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> nomasteryoda|w: So I'd need to first look up the process id, and then just kill that?  There's not a clean way of accessing the exit/logout function externally?
[04:18] <FR500> icemilo, do as i say
[04:19] <Marelo> is the captive ntfs from Jan Kratochvil?
[04:19] <icemilo> chown?;;
[04:19] <icemilo> root@lemon:/home/icemilo/Desktop# chown icemilo 02\ Yesterday.mp3
[04:19] <FR500> yes change owner
[04:19] <icemilo> but doesnt work - _-
[04:19] <Elsan> I need help, my Rhythmbox won't start, it stops as soon as it starts, I even reformatted and made a bigger swap partition because I thought it was a memory error. Can anyone help? Here is the error I get: GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:141: failed to allocate 1882140476 bytes
[04:19] <icemilo> the song is from my ntfs drive..
[04:19] <FR500> why?
[04:20] <johnsie2k> How do I run a .sh file?
[04:20] <FR500> but you had to change in the local file on the ext3 partition
[04:20] <icemilo> i have set the permission level..
[04:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell johnsie2k about cli
[04:20] <icemilo> hmm.  what is the problem .. -_-
[04:21] <kingright> yess
[04:21] <kingright> now how do i get yahoo! ?
[04:21] <nomasteryoda|w> kingright, you mean IM?
[04:21] <nomasteryoda|w> gaim is the program
[04:21] <nalioth> kingright: applications > internet > gaim
[04:21] <Bottle> folks.   ladies and gentlemen.
[04:22] <dooglus> Marelo: yes, that's the one.
[04:22] <Bottle> i can't browse a network with ubuntu,  because  Ubuntu tries to read the Windows shares as  "desktop configuration files"
[04:22] <nomasteryoda|w> Agrajag, ah, beblbrocks
[04:22] <Bottle> i went on a campaign to find the facts of the matter, the solutions,   to insinuate myself into a crowd of people who had experienced and resolved a similar problem
[04:22] <Bottle> ---but i found nothing.
[04:22] <kingright> i know GAIM but i want real yahoo
[04:22] <nalioth> kingright: have fun
[04:22] <johnsie2k> k i dont wanna read a book to do it :-p
[04:23] <Bottle> GAIM is a messaging client.   Yahoo is a search engine.
[04:23] <nalioth> johnsie2k: a little reading on linux will open many doors
[04:23] <Marelo> hey guys, is there a tutorial teaching how to install programs? those ones in .gz etc, not just the easy of apt-get?!? i've got to learn that! for this captive ntfs for example, there's only rpm and tar.gz......
[04:23] <kingright> no yahoo messenger
[04:23] <nalioth> Marelo: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[04:23] <johnsie2k> so will copy and paste :-p
[04:23] <kingright> they have a deb file for it
[04:23] <Bottle> Marelo:  i feel your upain.   i feel your pain only too well.
[04:23] <Bottle> i can't help you.
[04:24] <icemilo> Marelo: after u extract, goto that folder type "./configure" and "make install"
[04:24] <Bottle> installing applications that aren't part of the package system  is the  #1 killer.
[04:24] <Bottle> it kills me.
[04:24] <nalioth> kingright: there is no "yahoo chat client" you'll have to use on of several we have available that uses the yahoo protocol
[04:24] <Bottle> it's a real bottleneck for the UNINITIATED
[04:24] <Agrajag> icemilo: you're missing a step. ./configure && make && sudo make install
[04:24] <Marelo> Bottle: ^^ yeap... and for a beginner like me... OHOOOOHH MY BALLS hehee
[04:24] <kingright> ok
[04:24] <icemilo> agra: hmm.. some programs dont need make
[04:25] <icemilo> Agrajag: some programs only need make install
[04:25] <Agrajag> icemilo: yes, but if you're using make install, you definitely need sudo.
[04:25] <kingright> ok now how do i ge BT?
[04:25] <Agrajag> And you want to run make before make install.
[04:25] <robotgeek> Bottle: can you just explain your problem?
[04:25] <Agrajag> always.
[04:25] <Bottle> anybody think i'll have any luck installing a 10-year old solaris application on a modern Ubuntu system?
[04:25] <icemilo> okok :P
[04:25] <icemilo> ;;
[04:25] <sizzam> if you install and use checkinstall instead of make install, you can uninstall them from synaptic later
[04:25] <robotgeek> Bottle: binary, no way. code, maybe
[04:26] <gohan> hmm
[04:26] <Bottle> robotgeek:  i set up an ubuntu workstation.   it's networked with a bunch of windows machines.      but the Ubuntu box can't access the shared windows resources.
[04:26] <gorilla> Bottle, sounds like a nice challenge... but don't expect it to work without serious hacking of code.
[04:26] <SEJeff> Bottle: The Solaris app is likely using Motif or way old java. Doubtful
[04:26] <gimmulf> nalioth: everything related to xine seems to be broken here :/
[04:26] <icemilo> Bottle: if its a code then its possible.. :P
[04:26] <Bottle> it sees them,  but when i click,  it says   "these  desktop configuration files   are not valid"  or something.
[04:26] <adriyel> hola.
[04:26] <Bottle> oh, well,  forget that then, eh?
[04:26] <gimmulf> damn been trying to play an .avi for an hour now :)
[04:26] <adriyel> I have a question, has anyone found breezy to be unstable?
[04:26] <nalioth> gimmulf: i dont use xine
[04:26] <larrre> How to register a nickname?
[04:26] <Bottle> maybe i don't no stinkin 10-year old solaris app, afterall.
[04:26] <crazyman> People need to start using irssi....it's the best >_>
[04:26] <johnsie2k> lol, this txtbased instanmt messenger is cool
[04:27] <Bottle> don't Need no.
[04:27] <SEJeff> laurrre: /msg nickserv register thepasswordyouwant
[04:27] <gohan> a one server in spanish to ubuntu?
[04:27] <larrre> SEJeff, thanks!
[04:27] <kingright> ok now how do i ge BT?
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> adriyel: Not yet, but I've only had it for a day.  We'll see!
[04:27] <Bottle> johnsie2k:   that's not a txtbased instant messenger.     it's a packet of cream cheese.
[04:27] <SEJeff> johndilley: irsii or bitchx?
[04:28] <gimmulf> nalioth:  what do you use, totem?
[04:28] <adriyel> tonyyarusso, I noticed it immediately, several apps were crashing X into a hard freeze, ctrl-alt-backspace didn't work, this happened 3 times before I reinstalled
[04:28] <nalioth> gimmulf: i use totem-gstreamer
[04:28] <Madpilot> kingright: Bittorrent?
[04:28] <sizzam> kingright:  azureus seems to be pretty popular for bt
[04:29] <nalioth> kingright: open synaptic and search for 'torrent'
[04:29] <kingright> no BitTornado
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> adriyel: Oy, definately didn't have anything like that.
[04:29] <JeffAMcGee> when I upgraded to breezy, ctrl-alt-f1 and ctrl-alt-plus stopped working
[04:29] <JeffAMcGee> any ideas?
[04:29] <kingright> i only have 128 mb of ram
[04:29] <adriyel> tonyyarusso, I don't know what was going on, Blag 30k1 is rock-stable
[04:29] <sizzam> kingright:   apt-cache search tornado
[04:30] <adriyel> as is Slackware...Zenwalk...ummm, some other ones
[04:30] <surfdue> hi
[04:30] <kingright> now how do i D/L it or run it?
[04:30] <surfdue> hey guys
[04:30] <surfdue> um im installing breezy
[04:30] <lsald> it shoule have added to the menu, kingrigh
[04:30] <surfdue> its taking super long on apt get
[04:30] <surfdue> its been 1 hour
[04:30] <surfdue> and it only on 6% stil
[04:31] <sizzam> kingright:  there are two packages, to install them you can use   sudo apt-get install <package>
[04:31] <dooglus> surfdue: archive.ubuntu.com is playing up.  try a different mirror
[04:31] <tonyyarusso> adriyel: Well, I guess just report it and see if anything happens soon.
[04:31] <gohan> alguien habla espaol?
[04:31] <surfdue> how do i switch install mirrios
[04:31] <surfdue> its currently installing now
[04:31] <Marelo> gohan: yo ablo portugues
[04:31] <surfdue> what do i do to not ruin it?
[04:31] <dooglus> surfdue: the packages you've got already will be kept
[04:32] <surfdue> so what do i do
[04:32] <adriyel> tonyyarusso, I'm not that cruel to developers, I'm not going to bother sending in a report that says "Distro buggy and is the crap. X hard freezes, wtf mate?"
[04:32] <dooglus> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:32] <surfdue> i dont even thing i have that yet
[04:32] <surfdue> IM still int he install
[04:32] <surfdue> lol
[04:32] <nalioth> !es
[04:32] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:32] <surfdue> the main install
[04:32] <Larsson-Sweden> How to register a channel?
[04:32] <gimmulf> nalioth:  how do i get it to play .avi files.. it just says something like "COuld not open resource for writing" when i try to open an .avi file
[04:32] <dooglus> surfdue: it's in hoary too...
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> adriyel: True, but if you were able to gather more info somehow or other then it would be good.
[04:32] <B_166-ER-X> mplayer is NOT in the breezy  universe repos ??
[04:32] <B_166-ER-X> arrg
[04:32] <nalioth> gimmulf: use vlc
[04:33] <surfdue> suggest waht mirror to use ?
[04:33] <EnsignRedshirt> apt experts: What's the command to find out which package provide a specific file?
[04:33] <Agrajag> no, it's in multiverse.
[04:33] <surfdue> im not ganna try
[04:33] <gimmulf> nalioth:  have tried, it just plays tghe sound of the .avi
[04:33] <surfdue> i mean grub isnt even isntalled yety
[04:33] <gohan> Marelo: Saves de algun servidor en Espaol para Ubuntu :P?
[04:33] <surfdue> you dont know what your talking about dooglus
[04:33] <i3dmaster> anyone use gizmo under ubuntu?
[04:33] <tonyyarusso> surfdue: I used Ireland's.
[04:33] <adriyel> tonyyarusso, I can't run gdb on a crash that hard freezes man, I'm a programmer myself and actually dug out and fixed some bugs in Hoary-64, but if I can't recover from or monitor the freeze, I am dead in the water
[04:33] <nalioth> gimmulf: then you are missing the correct codec for the file
[04:33] <gimmulf> nalioth:  i have installed sudo w32codecs_*.deb
[04:33] <dooglus> surfdue: you already have ubuntu installed?
[04:33] <surfdue> how do i change it
[04:33] <surfdue> NO
[04:33] <Maikeru> should be last time for me connecting and d/c like that - sorreh
[04:33] <surfdue> its INSTALLING
[04:33] <surfdue> right now
[04:34] <surfdue> on %6  for like 2 hours now
[04:34] <dooglus> from the net?
[04:34] <josephine> hello
[04:34] <surfdue> 6% is the ap get aparently
[04:34] <surfdue> no
[04:34] <surfdue> i have the full cd
[04:34] <kingright> what other cool programs should i get?
[04:34] <surfdue> i dont even know why its getting from the net
[04:34] <Maikeru> done
[04:34] <dooglus> oh i see.  something's wrong then
[04:34] <gimmulf> nalioth:  i dont know how to make vlc find the new codecs
[04:34] <Agrajag> vlc doesn't use code\s.
[04:34] <Agrajag> codecs.
[04:34] <CuriousCat> josephine: hello
[04:34] <Agrajag> they're all built-in.
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> adriyel: I see.  Then I certainly can't do anything either!  Try a bug-fixing dance around a pile of install CDs?  j/k!
[04:34] <surfdue> it if goes through every apt in ubuntu taking about 30 mins each, it will take 1 year.
[04:35] <gnomefreak> surfdue, the install cd sounds bad try another one or reburn it
[04:35] <surfdue> how do i speed this up
[04:35] <josephine> hi CuriousCat!
[04:35] <sizzam> kingright: check out www.ubuntuguide.org,  theres a lot of software suggestions there and instructions on how to install them
[04:35] <kingright> its like it is the codec
[04:35] <Madpilot> kingright: that depends on your own definition of "cool"! There are thousands of apps available...
[04:35] <Agrajag> !ubuntuguide
[04:35] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[04:35] <josephine> IM NEW HERE
[04:35] <surfdue> should i just try to isntall again
[04:35] <kingright> ok
[04:35] <] BreliC[> hey everyone
[04:35] <gnomefreak> surfdue,  yes at the very least try it again
[04:35] <gimmulf> Anyone know how to add codecs to VLC? (need to play an .avi file)
[04:35] <Agrajag> gimmulf: I just said, you don't.
[04:35] <kingright> what about video converting?
[04:35] <] BreliC[> i've got a rather odd ubuntu problem
[04:35] <Bottle> it should play them natively......
[04:35] <dooglus> is there anyone here who can fix the archive.ubuntu.com hosts?
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> gimmulf: Although you may need some plugins (I did), which are listed right below it in the package manager if you're using that.
[04:36] <gnomefreak> surfdue,  did you burn it or did you order it?
[04:36] <adriyel> tonyyarusso, lol. I'll pass. Blag is working quite well thank you. It's a rather strange and unique distro but I like it very much. Supports Yum/Apt + deb/rpm. Comes with MP3 support, as well as DVD
[04:36] <dooglus> 82.211.81.193 and 82.211.81.167 are both failing to respond to HTTP requests
[04:36] <B_166-ER-X> What do i do to get mplayer in ubuntu breezy ??
[04:36] <CuriousCat> ] BreliC[, what's up?
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> adriyel: Okay then, enjoy it!
[04:36] <gimmulf> Agrajag:  ahha
[04:36] <] BreliC[> I have Breezy (though the same thing happened with Hoary)... I have a dual boot with WinXP.  Anyway, when I get to the GRUB menu, if I hit enter to choose Ubuntu, everything boots fine
[04:36] <kingright> where can i find  bittornado-gui in my box
[04:37] <gnomefreak> B_166-ER-X, add multi universe repos and find it in synaptic or i think the command is apt-get install mplayer
[04:37] <] BreliC[> BUT, if i let the time expire, it will *always* freeze at Loading Modules...
[04:37] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: you add the multiverse repositories, then use synaptic to install mplayer-<whatever>
[04:37] <] BreliC[> anyone else experience this?
[04:37] <adriyel> tonyyarusso, in the mean time, maybe I can help someone here :)
[04:37] <sizzam> ] BreliC[ - thats an odd one
[04:37] <adriyel> sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[04:37] <CuriousCat> ] Brelic[, yes. that is strange.
[04:37] <gimmulf> tonyyarusso:  i installed all i could find (about 4)
[04:37] <B_166-ER-X> i added the multiverse...and it looks like its not here...its weird...
[04:37] <B_166-ER-X> hm
[04:37] <] BreliC[> sizzam, tell me about it.  kind of a pain when remote rebooting
[04:37] <gnomefreak> adriyel,  thank you
[04:37] <adriyel> unless yu're in 64-bit...
[04:37] <adriyel> lol.
[04:38] <] BreliC[> so I'm the only one??? Great :)
[04:38] <adriyel> <--- Athlon 3500...64-bit is useless unless you cracking password files
[04:38] <gnomefreak> B_166-ER-X, did you apt-get update after adding the repo to your sources list?
[04:38] <adriyel> ooh ooh, time to install UT2k4 :)
[04:38] <Madpilot> B_166-ER-X: search for "mplayer" in Synaptic with Multiverse enabled, there are about a dozen packages of various things
[04:38] <cafuego_> adriyel: It's great for database apps.
[04:39] <sizzam> ] Brelic[ - what kind of processor do you have
[04:39] <cafuego_> ..,. or anything that doesn't involve you clicking on things.
[04:39] <kevogod> 64-bit is great for people with small hands.
[04:39] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: do you see error messages if you "sudo apt-get update"?
[04:39] <B_166-ER-X> my multiverse...are backports...and not responding..
[04:39] <] BreliC[> CuriousCat, thanks.. i've tried googling many different terms, but wasn't sure how to phrase it so didn't come up with anything fruitful
[04:39] <] BreliC[> sizzam, AMD64 3500+
[04:39] <adriyel> cafuego, indeed it is. Along with some other features useless to the average bloke/gamer. I used to be an Gentoo whore, you can't fool me. I know what it does and does not improve :P
[04:39] <B_166-ER-X> http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[04:39] <nalioth> B_166-ER-X: breezy backports do not exist yet
[04:39] <cafuego_> kevogod: or people that aren't willing to throw away money.
[04:39] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: try a different mirror.
[04:39] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone know how to find which package provides a specific file?  I'm pretty sure I've done this before, but I don't recall the command.
[04:39] <gnomefreak> B_166-ER-X, hoary or breezy?
[04:39] <B_166-ER-X> breezy
[04:39] <adriyel> ] BreliC[, lol, same proccy as me. How much and how fast of ram do you have?
[04:39] <nalioth> EnsignRedshirt: install and use "apt-file" from a terminal
[04:39] <kingright> i installed it but i cant find it
[04:40] <gnomefreak> B_166-ER-X,  there are no backports for breezy
[04:40] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: 2 of the 4 addresses that archive.ubuntu.com resolves to don't work
[04:40] <] BreliC[> adriyel, 1GB DDR2
[04:40] <] BreliC[> you?
[04:40] <B_166-ER-X> gnomefreak,  well...my fresh install tells me : http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-backport
[04:40] <aias_> EnsignRedshirt, if the package is installed, you can use dpkg -S </path/to/file>
[04:40] <Madpilot> B_166-ER-X: I'm using the ca.archives myself, and they seem to be responding fine
[04:40] <cafuego_> adriyel: being a gentoo whore bears no relation to actually having any knowledge about computer systems.
[04:40] <sizzam> ] Brelic[ - which version of the kernel are you running (i386, k7, etc)
[04:40] <nalioth> nickrud: ?? what a neat nick
[04:40] <] BreliC[> adriyel, wanted 2GB, but couldn't afford it at the time ;)
[04:40] <B_166-ER-X> http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.193 80] 
[04:41] <nickrud> my machine
[04:41] <] BreliC[> sizzam, 386
[04:41] <gnomefreak> B_166-ER-X,  breezy shouldnt have backports until dapper drake is in devel stage
[04:41] <Madpilot> !tell B_166-ER-X about repos
[04:41] <] BreliC[> 2.6.12-9-386
[04:41] <Earthen> is it recommended to upgrade to breezy using atp-get? or can i just install from cd over the old one
[04:41] <nalioth> B_166-ER-X: read our txt please. there are NO breezy backports
[04:41] <dooglus> Madpilot: ca.archive.ubuntu.com resolves to the same 4 machines - 2 up and 2 down
[04:41] <DonL> There is a pdf reader I was using before, and I want to get it back. It rocked. I think it started with E or A, but for the life of me I can't remember the name. Can anyone help?
[04:41] <] BreliC[> DonL, Evince?
[04:41] <cafuego_> Doevince
[04:41] <kevogod> Adobe Reader :P
[04:41] <cafuego_> stupid tab :-P
[04:41] <nalioth> Earthen: you should not "install" anything again, apt-get is designed to upgrade you from now on
[04:41] <Madpilot> dooglus: OK... didn't think .ca had its own server yet
[04:42] <CuriousCat> ] Brelic[, found something, but I don't know if it suits your needs. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2689.html
[04:42] <sizzam> hey room, whats the best kernel to run for an AMD64?
[04:42] <DonL> YAy!! That's the one. Thanks a bunch!
[04:42] <sizzam> is it the k7 kernel?
[04:42] <gnomefreak> CuriousCat, thats for hoary backports
[04:42] <] BreliC[> +k
[04:42] <adriyel> cafuego, no, but it generally bears relation to spending a lot of time testing various compilation options for gcc, and benchmarking like a madman for hours on end. It also means that I am, really, really, really, sick of compiling anything from source. It furthermore means that I have personally tested various benchmarks, and I can say that the sweet spot for optimization for the average user is to compile for their specific proces
[04:42] <adriyel> sor, within the bounds of i686 registers, to preserve compatibility but with a healthy speed benefit
[04:42] <nalioth> sizzam: for entertaiment use, 686, for professional use amd64
[04:42] <adriyel> nalioth, pretty much (look up)
[04:42] <surfdue> goes fast untill retriving apt 6%
[04:42] <Earthen> nalioth: so just changing the ropo's to the breezy one and atp-get will take care of it?
[04:42] <surfdue> then slows to a near stop
[04:42] <gnomefreak> oops nm
[04:42] <CuriousCat> ] BreliC[, Do let me know if it does, ok? :)
[04:42] <surfdue> then goes liek 1 package per 30 mins
[04:42] <surfdue> again
[04:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Earthen about upgrade2breezy
[04:43] <surfdue> what do i do..
[04:43] <] BreliC[> CuriousCat, sure thing
[04:43] <adriyel> gnomefreak, did that apt install of mplayer work?
[04:43] <DonL> ] BreliC[, thanks. I'll go install it now
[04:43] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: try using "se.archive.ubuntu.com" in your /etc/apt/sources/list
[04:43] <surfdue> shouldnt the cd be moving on retriving apt
[04:43] <gnomefreak> adriyel,  i already have it i got it from synaptic a while back
[04:43] <surfdue> it totally stops
[04:43] <adriyel> oh, kkz
[04:44] <gnomefreak> surfdue, is it a burnt cd or an ordered one?
[04:44] <nalioth> adriyel: may i ask you a question re compiling?
[04:44] <surfdue> burnd
[04:44] <B_166-ER-X> dooglus ; if i just change my sources list with the one supplied on the http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) ... would that work
[04:44] <cafuego_> !info linux-image-2.6.12-9-k8
[04:44] <nalioth> B_166-ER-X: yes
[04:44] <gnomefreak> did the md5 check out ok?
[04:44] <surfdue> me?
[04:44] <surfdue> huh?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> yep
[04:44] <surfdue> wtf
[04:44] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:44] <surfdue> dont know what that means
[04:44] <surfdue> lol
[04:45] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: no.  don't use that sources.list - it uses archive.ubuntu.com, which isn't working
[04:45] <] BreliC[> CuriousCat, hmm.. well, i think they're implying that they can't boot up altogether
[04:45] <gnomefreak> its a check sum it pretty much tells you if the download is good/full
[04:45] <adriyel> nalioth, huh? you mean to ask me about recompiling?
[04:45] <] BreliC[> CuriousCat, i can boot up if i hit enter... which makes *no* sense
[04:45] <Amaranth> nalioth: Got the package!
[04:45] <B_166-ER-X> arrr
[04:45] <gnomefreak> does ubotu know md5?
[04:45] <CuriousCat> ] BreliC[, hmmm. It happens with Hoary as well?
[04:45] <surfdue> !md5
[04:45] <ubotu> md5 is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[04:45] <nalioth> adriyel: yes please join me in #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:45] <B_166-ER-X> dooglus , what should i do then. i want multiverse...and the source i have (ca.archive..) is not working
[04:45] <gnomefreak> i guess so
[04:45] <] BreliC[> CuriousCat, yes
[04:45] <CuriousCat> ] BreliC[, is it an upgrade from hoary or a totally new install?
[04:45] <adriyel> um, ok.
[04:46] <] BreliC[> CuriousCat, totally new
[04:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell surfdue about verify
[04:46] <sizzam> ] BreliC[ - have you tried installing the i686 or k7 kernel so that it becomes default to see if you get the same issue?
[04:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gnomefreak about verify
[04:46] <] BreliC[> sizzam, no... how difficult is that?
[04:46] <surfdue> how do i check if im not ruinngin nix
[04:46] <surfdue> im on windows
[04:46] <nalioth> gnomefreak: you can use ubotu for your own evil ends, if you know his usage
[04:46] <surfdue> i need to check it on my windows machine
[04:46] <gnomefreak> see i dont know what he knows
[04:46] <] BreliC[> sizzam, i'm fairly comfortable with linux but have never recompiled or installed a new kernel
[04:47] <gnomefreak> surfdue,  you need to install one
[04:47] <sizzam> ] BreliC[ - sudo apt-get install linux-k7 for the kernel, and sudo apt-get install linux-headers-k7 for the headers
[04:47] <surfdue> install what?
[04:47] <Madpilot> surfdue: there are XP instructions on that page
[04:47] <surfdue> no there isnt
[04:47] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: run "sudo sed -i 's/ca.archive/se.archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:47] <nickrud> B_166-ER-X, I've fallen back on uk. a couple of times, it's been working at those times
[04:47] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: then "sudo apt-get update"
[04:47] <Emmett> Hey, how do I mount my external USB HD with ubuntu? Links helpful.
[04:47] <sizzam> ] BreliC[ - if they give you any problems, you can choose the 386 kernel in Grub again and remove the k7 kernel (or 686 if you want to try that one)
[04:47] <sizzam> ] BreliC[ - im pretty much stabbing in the dark on this one though
[04:47] <Madpilot> surfdue: my mistake... just a sec, there is a wiki page with XP md5 info
[04:48] <Symbolic> hey
[04:48] <] BreliC[> sizzam, ok, thanks.  i'll try that.  it won't screw up what i have installed currently though, will it?
[04:48] <Symbolic> hey guys
[04:48] <Symbolic> can someone help me out
[04:48] <dooglus> nickrud: you were lucky.  uk is the same as ca...
[04:48] <sizzam> ] BreliC[ - it shouldn't, i won't be offended if you get a second opinion ;-)
[04:48] <CuriousCat> Sizzam, ] BreliC[, is it possible that something in GRUB is making Ubuntu act weird? (again, stabbing in the dark as well)
[04:48] <nickrud> heh
[04:48] <] BreliC[> sizzam, lol
[04:48] <gnomefreak> Symbolic, ask your question and if we know we will try to help
[04:48] <Madpilot> Symbolic: only if you actually ask a question...
[04:48] <EnsignRedshirt> nalioth Thanks for the apt-file tip, but it didn't seem to work (maybe I should RTFM a little more closely, though).
[04:49] <Symbolic> this is my firest time useing linux
[04:49] <B_166-ER-X> dooglus, i have some errors... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3425
[04:49] <sizzam> CuriousCat, could be...
[04:49] <Symbolic> can someone  show me how to use it
[04:49] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:49] <nalioth> EnsignRedshirt: apt-file search 'bleh'
[04:49] <Madpilot> Symbolic: that's as open-ended as "show me how to use Windows" would be...
[04:49] <surfdue> !xpmd5
[04:49] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: that's fine.  it's just backports failing
[04:49] <ubotu> surfdue: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:49] <surfdue> no.
[04:49] <surfdue> :)
[04:49] <Emmett> Hey, folks. I'm not Symbolic and I *did* ask a question. How do I get my USB drive to mount in ubuntu?
[04:50] <gnomefreak> Symbolic,  can you be less general? what is it you need to be shown how to use
[04:50] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: you can comment out the backports lines to stop that
[04:50] <EnsignRedshirt> nickrud: Thanks for the tip about dpkg -S ... that's what I was looking for.
[04:50] <CuriousCat> ] Brelic[, see if you could reinstall GRUB first. If it doesn't work, you can try sizzam's suggestion. :)
[04:50] <erisco_> what is the package name for the mysql database server?
[04:50] <daved> is there a good web-admin-able router package for ubuntu?
[04:50] <daved> dhcp, vpn server, etc.. like m0n0wall
[04:50] <sizzam> Symbolic:   i would start here if I were you -  http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[04:50] <Madpilot> !tell erisco about lamp
[04:50] <B_166-ER-X> there is no backport, but i have to uncomment them to make them work.
[04:50] <surfdue> what i noticed on check dhcp never works.
[04:50] <gnomefreak> i wouldnt :(\
[04:50] <erisco_> lamp?
[04:50] <surfdue> on breezy install
[04:50] <Symbolic> how do i install amsn
[04:50] <daved> linux apache mysql php
[04:50] <Maikeru> !ubuntuguide
[04:50] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[04:50] <nickrud> not that link again!
[04:50] <sizzam> Symbolic:  once you get yourself a little background, there is a LOT of help available from other ubuntu users, like in here, ubuntuforums.org, etc
[04:50] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: comment them, so they will be ignored.
[04:51] <erisco_> i didn't get anything madpilot
[04:51] <EnsignRedshirt> nalioth: I tried that.  It doesn't do anything--just return to a prompt.
[04:51] <nickrud> Madpilot, what's the faq link again
[04:51] <Madpilot> Symbolic: use GAIM, it handles msn and lots of other things, and is pre-installed
[04:51] <] BreliC[> CuriousCat, but it did the same thing with Hoary... i'm not so sure it's a problem with grub
[04:51] <daved> is there any good all-in-one  nat/firewall/dhcp/dns/etc etc package for ubuntu? preferably with web admin
[04:51] <cyphase> does anyone else think it would be cool if, when a user submits bugs through the ubuntu Bug Report Tool, they can keep track of it using a small daemon?
[04:51] <Madpilot> erisco: you should have gotten a msg from ubotu?
[04:51] <erisco_> no i didn't
[04:51] <Madpilot> erisco_: wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:51] <erisco_> strange but i didnt
[04:51] <cyphase> see if it's being worked on, if it's fixed..
[04:52] <cafuego_> daved: No, ubuntu is a deaktop distro, not a specific firewall distro.
[04:52] <nalioth> EnsignRedshirt: then your string isnt in it
[04:52] <cafuego_> desktop even
[04:52] <] BreliC[> and many other people use WinXP and Ubuntu, so it's likely not the problem from the link you sent me (incorrect harddrive geometry)... hm
[04:52] <Emmett> Sweet Jesus. Please. Anyone. Just a link on how to mount my USB disk in ubuntu.
[04:52] <] BreliC[> CuriousCat, but it's damn frustrating though
[04:52] <nalioth> EnsignRedshirt: your available pkgs do not contain that string
[04:52] <B_166-ER-X> how do i edit my sources list ??
[04:52] <erisco> madpilot, heh i did sorry
[04:52] <daved> Emmett: plug it in
[04:52] <Emmett> I did plug it in.
[04:52] <EnsignRedshirt> nalioth: I used the exact same string with dpkg -S, and it found it!
[04:52] <cafuego_> Emmett: SHould be as simple as plugging it in and waiting a few seconds.
[04:52] <erisco> i accidently logged in on two work stations =p
[04:52] <daved> cafuego: im looking for a firewall *package* not a firewall *distro*
[04:52] <Emmett> Where will it mount?
[04:52] <apokryphos> B_166-ER-X: alt_f2 -> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:52] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:52] <daved> Emmett: who cares, it will pop up in nautilus
[04:52] <nalioth> EnsignRedshirt: really? weird
[04:52] <Emmett> Console only.
[04:52] <CuriousCat> ] Brelic[, I know. Just thinking maybe the Breey install didn't overwrite the Grub installed by Hoary (though honestly, it's a long shot that it could happen)
[04:52] <daved> Emmett: type "mount"
[04:53] <Emmett> Did.
[04:53] <erisco> madpilot, i do not have 5.04, i have 5.10
[04:53] <gnomefreak> what is gksudo?
[04:53] <kevogod> Has anyone managed to install an O9 TP deb?
[04:53] <cafuego_> daved: No, you were looking for an all -in-one firewall/vpn/dhcp.
[04:53] <EnsignRedshirt> nalioth: apt-file search /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem_mozilla.xpt
[04:53] <cafuego_> daved: No such thing.
[04:53] <surfdue> guys
[04:53] <Emmett> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[04:53] <] BreliC[> CuriousCat, ahh, now i see your logic.  however, it's an entirely new harddrive (the first one crapped out after 4 months!!!)
[04:53] <Emmett> That's all I see.
[04:53] <erisco> and i am looking for mysql not lamp... i doubt they are the same thing regardless of how much they are the same
[04:53] <Madpilot> erisco: all those LAMP instructions work the same in 5.10; I'm running a LAMP stack right now...
[04:53] <EnsignRedshirt> nalioth: (for example ^^^)
[04:53] <daved> cafuego: yes there is, i just found it.. keep your trap shut when you don't know what you're talking about
[04:53] <surfdue> how do i fix this install, it stops at 6% retriving apt, then goes VERY VERY slow
[04:53] <som1> guys, i need to get this package called realtime-lsm-module but it says "package realtime-lsm-module has no isntallation candidate"
[04:53] <nalioth> EnsignRedshirt: should be more like "apt-file search libtotem"
[04:53] <som1> what should i do?
[04:53] <surfdue> it shouldnt even be using the internet
[04:53] <CuriousCat> ] Brelic[, ok. Now that throws the GRUB theory out of the window. :D
[04:53] <surfdue> i have a disk.
[04:54] <gimmulf> hmm oki RealPlayer cant play an .avi Helix player cant play an .avi Totem cant play an .avi VLC cant play an avi (the sound though).. been trying for 1hour + now to play this avi but it feels like its impossible
[04:54] <cafuego_> daved: If you want  afirewall, try firestarter (simple) or iptables (advanced, manual)
[04:54] <] BreliC[> but previous to that, i had hoary and many other linuxes coexisting with winxp on two different harddrives for a long time (years).. and never ran into that problem
[04:54] <B_166-ER-X> what do i add to have a multiverse repo ??
[04:54] <EnsignRedshirt> nalioth: Still nothing.
[04:54] <gnomefreak> surfdue,  you cant you need to either burn it again or download and burn it again or you need to order the cds
[04:54] <cafuego_> daved: Next time you think abusing people who are trying to help you is a good idea, please go to another channel.
[04:54] <gimmulf> and the aviplayer package wont work :)
[04:54] <dooglus> gimmulf: which .avi?  is it a special one?  or just any?
[04:54] <Madpilot> B_166-ER-X: use the sample sources.list ubotu provided
[04:54] <] BreliC[> CuriousCat, AND to top it all off, it happened on TWO completely different machines!
[04:54] <nalioth> EnsignRedshirt: dunno then.
[04:54] <gimmulf> dooglus:  its just an .avi i have
[04:55] <gimmulf> nothing special with it
[04:55] <dooglus> gimmulf: ok
[04:55] <Emmett> Again, my USB drive is plugged in, but I don't know where it would mount if it did it automagically.
[04:55] <dooglus> gimmulf: did you try mplayer?
[04:55] <B_166-ER-X> no : my multiverse are not working Madpilot
[04:55] <gimmulf> dooglus:  any ideas? :)9
[04:55] <EnsignRedshirt> nalioth: Doesn't matter, since dpkg -S did the trick.  Thanks anyway!  Ciao.
[04:55] <Emmett> I do not see it in the mount list.
[04:55] <erisco> hmm... well i found the instructions for mysql.. thanks madpilot.... still not sure about this lamp you mentioned
[04:55] <gimmulf> dooglus:  its not in the package manager
[04:55] <cafuego_> Emmett: If it automounts, it'll show on the desktop.
[04:55] <CuriousCat> ] Brelic[, Then perhaps it just may be a kernel thing. Only way to find out is to try Sizzam's theory. :)
[04:55] <gnomefreak> B_166-ER-X, hold on ok ill get you a repo to add
[04:55] <B_166-ER-X> THx
[04:55] <Emmett> Again, I am running console only. There is no desktop.
[04:55] <cafuego_> Emmett: If it didn't, it'll be a scsi disk (possibly sda, unless you have serial ata)
[04:56] <cafuego_> Emmett: You cna find out exactly using 'dmesg'.
[04:56] <] BreliC[> CuriousCat, yeah, i guess so.  but isn't it messed up that two different machines (Pentium 4 1.5GHz, AMD64 3500+) could have the same problem?
[04:56] <Madpilot> erisco: LAMP is just shorthand for the basic Apache-MySQL-PHP server install, that's all
[04:56] <sizzam> ] BreliC[ - any devices in common between those machines?  maybe a usb device or something that just happened to be plugged into both
[04:56] <] BreliC[> CuriousCat, the only thing I can think of is the hardware that I've carried over from that machine... an M-Audio Delta 2496, and a Hauppauge bt878 card
[04:56] <gimmulf> dooglus:  and i see no .bin ---> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[04:57] <daved> cafuego: ill be sure to keep that in mind when dealing with people that know what they're talking about and are actually helping
[04:57] <CuriousCat> ] Brelic[, hmm. How about removing those two cards first then try booting up ubuntu and see if the problem is still there?
[04:57] <dooglus> gimmulf: it's in the multiverse repositories
[04:57] <som1> guys, i need to get this package called realtime-lsm-module but it says "package realtime-lsm-module has no installation candidate", what should i do?
[04:57] <cafuego_> daved: Care to share WHAT you found then, so we can help others next time?
[04:57] <] BreliC[> sizzam, actually, the keyboard (MS USB natural type keyboard) is also common
[04:57] <cafuego_> daved: Or are you just trolling now?
[04:57] <sizzam> ] BreliC[ - luckily those devices are both removable, so you *could* take them out and see if the problem goes away, just to narrow it down if nothing else
[04:57] <B_166-ER-X> i want multiverse :(
[04:58] <Madpilot> B_166-ER-X: after you updated your sources.list, did you hit "Reload" in Synaptic?
[04:58] <CuriousCat> ] Brelic[, i agree with sizzam. :)
[04:58] <] BreliC[> CuriousCat, sizzam, thanks alot guys.  i'll try out a few of these ideas, though I"m not too keen on opening up the box at the moment :)  probably in the morning
[04:58] <Emmett> cafuego: Thank you very much for your help, I didn't realize that it would have mounted as /dev/sda1. I ran mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/<mountpoint> and it worked wonderfully. Thanks, and good to see you again.
[04:58] <gnomefreak> B_166-ER-X,  go here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3427
[04:58] <cafuego_> Emmett: You *are* from slashnet eh? :-)
[04:58] <gimmulf> dooglus: yes but i get this error on it: Depends: libggi2 (>=1:2.0.5) but it is not installable   Depends: libjack0.80.0-0 (>=0.99.0) but it is not installable
[04:58] <CuriousCat> ] Brelic[, no problem. do let us know what happens, ok? :)
[04:58] <Emmett> That's me. :)
[04:59] <] BreliC[> CuriousCat, I will
[04:59] <Emmett> ubuntu seems pretty sweet.
[04:59] <sizzam> ] BreliC[ - good call, i love the smell of motherboards in the morning
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[04:59] <gimmulf> dooglus:  on the mplayer-386:
[04:59] <] BreliC[> sizzam, hehe...they do have the fresh morning dew
[04:59] <cafuego_> Emmett: As far as desktops go, yep.
[04:59] <dooglus> gimmulf: breezy?
[04:59] <gnomefreak> B_166-ER-X,  if your using hoary change breezy to hoary
[04:59] <Emmett> Now, how do I tell ubuntu to mount /home on the new disk? Do I have to do anything special, or can I just mv it?
[05:00] <B_166-ER-X> i'm breezy
[05:00] <gimmulf> yes dooglus
[05:00] <gimmulf> breezy badger
[05:00] <davidmccabe> Hi folks.
[05:00] <dooglus> gimmulf: what if you "sudo apt-get install libggi2"?  what's that say?
[05:00] <davidmccabe> It looks like for the breezy upgrade, apt wants to install emacs. However, I already have emacs from CVS and do not want ubuntu's version to be installed. any pointers?
[05:00] <davidmccabe> thanks!
[05:00] <sizzam> Emmett:  see if this helps:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70766&highlight=move+home+disk
[05:00] <gnomefreak> B_166-ER-X,  than just add those to your sources list and if in synaptic reload if in gedit on command line type sudo apt-get update
[05:00] <gimmulf> dooglus:  E: Package libggi2 has no installation candidate
[05:01] <synackuator> anyone have a Compal or Acer notebook running ubuntu hoary / breezy ?
[05:01] <Emmett> Thanks, sizzam.
[05:01] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[05:01] <buntu> Cheers guys! Glad to be here! (ppp0 trouble...)
[05:01] <dooglus> davidmccabe: I had that problem.  the answer was to use "check-install" (?) to make my own emacs package.
[05:01] <Emmett> Thanks again, folks. I'm off like a prom dress.
[05:01] <cafuego_> Emmett: If you make sure no files on /home are in use, you should be able to just mount it over the top.
[05:01] <dooglus> gimmulf: libggi2 is in main!
[05:01] <davidmccabe> dooglus: could you point me at where to find information about that?
[05:01] <gimmulf> dooglus:  Package libggi2 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, oris only available from another source However the following packages replace it: libggimisc2 libggi-target-fbdev E: Package libggi2 has no installation candidate
[05:01] <cafuego_> blah
[05:02] <gimmulf> dooglus:  what do you mean+
[05:02] <dooglus> davidmccabe: install package 'checkinstall'
[05:02] <cafuego_> !info libggi2
[05:02] <buntu> anyone familiar with ppp0 disappearing after reboot, replace with sit0 (whatever that is)?
[05:02] <ubotu> libggi2: (General Graphics Interface runtime libraries), section libs, is optional. Version: 1:2.0.5-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 186 kB, Installed size: 564 kB
[05:02] <davidmccabe> dooglus: I'll google that. thanks.
[05:02] <gnomefreak> gimmulf,  sudo apt-get install libggimisc2
[05:02] <dooglus> gimmulf: i mean that libggi2 is in the main repository.  you should be able to install it!
[05:03] <cafuego_> !info libggi2 hoary
[05:03] <ubotu> libggi2: (General Graphics Interface runtime libraries), section libs, is optional. Version: 1:2.0.5-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 188 kB, Installed size: 596 kB
[05:03] <erisco> where can i get a root terminal shortcut on my launcher panel?
[05:03] <gimmulf> gnomefreak:  The following packages have unmet dependencies: libggimisc2: Depends: libggi2 (>= 1:2.0.5) but it is not installable  Depends: libgii0 (>= 1:0.8.5-2) but it is not installable
[05:03] <dooglus> gnomefreak: why install libggimisc2?
[05:03] <erisco> they seemed to have cut it out from 5.04
[05:04] <cafuego_> erisco: Anywhere. Add a  new laucnher that starts 'gksudo gome-terminal'
[05:04] <Madpilot> erisco: just use sudo...
[05:04] <gnomefreak> following packages replace it: libggimisc2
[05:04] <erisco> I WILL NOT USE SUDO
[05:04] <erisco> i want a ROOT terminal
[05:04] <durt> su
[05:04] <synackuator> sudo -s zors
[05:04] <Madpilot> erisco: man... all right, but calm down, for f's sake...
[05:04] <sazwerx> sudo -s
[05:04] <jorgp2> is there an undelete?
[05:04] <BeanDip> does ubuntu not support more than 1gig of RAM?
[05:05] <cafuego_> erisco: hint: You can't run a terminal as root without a sudo layer in between.
[05:05] <dooglus> jorgp2: no
[05:05] <gimmulf> gnomefreak:  dooglus  suggestions? :)
[05:05] <cafuego_> erisco: How do you think hoary did it? Magic?
[05:05] <synackuator> BeanDip: i'm running one box with 2gbs just fine
[05:05] <gnomefreak> erisco go into applications sys tools and aplication menu add root terminal to menu than right click it once in menu and add to launcher panel
[05:05] <BeanDip> I'm running breezy on a Dell 1750 with 2gigs of onboard memory but only 1 gig shows
[05:05] <gnomefreak> gimmulf im gonna try it hold plz
[05:05] <gimmulf> oki gnomefreak
[05:05] <cafuego_> BeanDip: Upgrade off the 386 kernel.
[05:06] <cafuego_> BeanDip: ie: to a 686 one.
[05:06] <synackuator> BeanDip: i'm on 386 and my 2gbs works
[05:06] <gnomefreak> it worked fine for me
[05:06] <BeanDip> I did
[05:06] <BeanDip> Linux version 2.6.12-9-686-smp (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)) #1 SMP Mon Oct 10 13:36:57 BST 2005
[05:06] <dooglus> gimmulf: would you "echo /var/lib/apt/lists/*.gpg" for me please?
[05:07] <erisco> thanks gnomefreak, that worked well
[05:07] <BeanDip> :~$ freern             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cachedrnMem:       1035988     578468     457520          0      24520     279032rn-/+ buffers/cache:     274916     761072rnSwap:      2907724          0    2907724
[05:07] <synackuator> BeandDip: dmesg tell you anything?
[05:07] <erisco> yes i know there is a little "sudo" going on in the background
[05:07] <erisco> but i hate getting half of my commands wrong because you need that dumb sudo
[05:07] <gnomefreak> erisco anytime but theres nothing wrong with sudo
[05:07] <synackuator> erisco: wow just use sudo -s
[05:07] <B_166-ER-X> thankx dooglus and friends it worked
[05:07] <synackuator> erisco: and sudo -K to end root
[05:07] <gnomefreak> sudo -i
[05:08] <erisco> yes i know there is nothing wrong with sudo, it is a persona preferance
[05:08] <cafuego_> BeanDip: Looks like HIGHMEM isn't enabled on the default kernels, that's crud.
[05:08] <BeanDip> yeah
[05:08] <BeanDip> [4294667.296000]  127MB HIGHMEM available.rn[4294667.296000]  896MB LOWMEM available.
[05:08] <BeanDip> that's all is says
[05:08] <BeanDip> :/
[05:08] <cafuego_> BeanDip: I think the only resolution is to build  acustom kernel.
[05:08] <sizzam> i just like sudo because it sounds like some form of karate
[05:08] <cafuego_> CuriousCat: there is _no_ differnce between logging in as root and 'sudo -i'
[05:08] <synackuator> cafuego_: i'm running out of box breezy with 2gbs showing
[05:09] <cafuego_> synackuator: Hmm.
[05:09] <CuriousCat> well, as long as I can do what i need to do, sudo/root/whatever, am fine. :)
[05:09] <cafuego_> BeanDip: Does the bios see all 2GB at bootup?
[05:09] <lsald> what's the bots name?
[05:09] <cafuego_> !test
[05:09] <ubotu> Passed.
[05:09] <] BreliC[_afk> ubotu
[05:09] <sizzam> ubotu
[05:09] <sizzam> !test
[05:09] <gnomefreak> anyway the person with the libggi2 issue have you looked for it in synaptic?
[05:10] <BeanDip> cafuego, of course
[05:10] <] BreliC[_afk> !info ardour
[05:10] <BeanDip> or I wouldn't have botehred coming in here
[05:10] <CuriousCat> it's not like i go root all the time. :) Otherwise I'd be using RHEL. :P (but that's a different story, so let's stick to ubuntu)
[05:10] <cafuego_> BeanDip: Can you pass 'mem=2G' as boot param?
[05:10] <kingright> anyone know any thing about WINE?
[05:10] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I reckon his 'main' source is broken because of the problems with the mirrors.
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> !wine
[05:10] <sizzam> !tell sizzam about clipboard
[05:10] <naked31> 81.62.126.120
[05:10] <davidmccabe> dooglus: I'm pretty sure checkinstall doesn't do what I want.
[05:10] <BeanDip> cafuego, haven't tried :)
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> kingright, wine is windows emulator
[05:10] <] BreliC[_afk> i love the merlot
[05:10] <sizzam> wine is not an emulator!
[05:10] <davidmccabe> dooglus: it appears to be for removing source-installed packages. I want to keep my source package and not have ubuntu's package.
[05:11] <kingright> i need to know how to install it
[05:11] <wickedpuppy> lol
[05:11] <gnomefreak> dooglus could very well be im not sure off hand what source its in but should be in main
[05:11] <naked31> vncviewer 81.62.126.120, do you read me ?
[05:11] <dooglus> davidmccabe: you want to install something which requires emacs.  apt-get doesn't know you've made your own emacs.  so use checkinstall to make your own emacs package from the cvs sources.  then the package you want will install
[05:11] <synackuator> sizzam: please stop trolling channel, thanks
[05:11] <kingright> i need adobe on my box
[05:11] <cafuego_> CuriousCat: In linespire you run it all the time, even better than rhel ;-)
[05:11] <sizzam> synackuator:  no problem,  try sudo apt-get install 'sense-of-humor'
[05:11] <gnomefreak> emacs is hard :( im reading a book on it
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> kingright, wine is in the repo
[05:12] <davidmccabe> dooglus: oh, I see. I neglected to read the second paragraph of the description of it.
[05:12] <dooglus> gnomefreak: apt-cache policy libggi2
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> gnomefreak, learning gnu emacs from O'reilly ?
[05:12] <dooglus> gnomefreak: shows it's in main
[05:12] <Symbolic> oin
[05:12] <] BreliC[_afk> !info jack
[05:12] <Symbolic> hey
[05:12] <ubotu> jack: (Rip and encode CDs with one command), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 3.1.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 100 kB, Installed size: 540 kB
[05:12] <gnomefreak> yes that is the book
[05:12] <davidmccabe> dooglus: by the way, do you know how to find out which package it is that wants emacs?
[05:12] <Symbolic> how do i open deb files
[05:12] <cafuego_> kingright: sudo apt-get install wine
[05:12] <cafuego_> sysudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> gnomefreak, excellent book ... i also got that one ... :P
[05:12] <cafuego_> !&*$*^$*
[05:12] <ubotu> cafuego_: I haven't a clue
[05:12] <Fitzsimmons> hey, what can I use to automatically reconfigure xorg for switching from LCD to a CRT monitor?
[05:12] <cafuego_> Symbolic: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[05:12] <dooglus> davidmccabe: no, I don't.
[05:13] <Fitzsimmons> I'd rather not manually hack the file unles I really really have to
[05:13] <Symbolic> how do i open .deb files
[05:13] <davidmccabe> dooglus: ok, thanks. :)
[05:13] <] BreliC[_afk> cafuego, keep missing the tab key? :)
[05:13] <wickedpuppy> Symbolic, cafuego showed ya ... scroll up abit
[05:13] <dooglus> davidmccabe: I know that once I've installed the package, then I can find out.
[05:13] <cafuego_> ] BreliC[_afk: hitting it too soon and this dumb client stops, rather then cycles through options
[05:13] <dooglus> davidmccabe: "debfoster -e emacs21" tells me: "vm"
[05:13] <] BreliC[_afk> lol
[05:13] <buntu> Lost my long-working pppoe setup under Hoary after reboot and ppp0 was replace by "sit0". Breezy Live does the same, but MCNLive gets me onto network. Pppoeconf under Ubuntu now can't find "Access Concentrator". Any ideas how to fix my eth0?
[05:14] <davidmccabe> dooglus: vm? hmm. well, thanks again.
[05:14] <dooglus> davidmccabe: vm the mail reader for emacs
[05:14] <buntu> pppoe *failed* after reboot
[05:14] <davidmccabe> dooglus: oh, of course.
[05:14] <gnomefreak> wickedpuppy,  did it help you understand emacs a bit?
[05:14] <kingright> when i install Multimedia Plug-in for Mozilla Firefox do i add the text file it gives me to sources.list?
[05:14] <gnomefreak> i just got it yesterday
[05:14] <dooglus> davidmccabe: I installed it 'cos it's the best console mail reader I've found.  but it wanted to bring in the whole of emacs21 with it - I already had my own CVS build, like you...
[05:15] <wickedpuppy> gnomefreak, yah sure ... use it .. not understand it
[05:15] <davidmccabe> dooglus: ah. I've just been doing all emacs-related things from source to avoid collisions with apt.
[05:15] <davidmccabe> dooglus: but now breezy has this mysterious desire to install it.
[05:15] <davidmccabe> hehe. oh well.
[05:15] <wickedpuppy> gnomefreak, to understand  , i need to improve my lisp
[05:15] <sizzam> Fitzsimmons:   the best help i can find for that one is here:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59650&highlight=switch+monitors
[05:15] <dooglus> davidmccabe: heh.  and you don't know why :)
[05:15] <Fitzsimmons> sizzam: I actually found it myself
[05:16] <Fitzsimmons> sizzam: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:16] <davidmccabe> bye.
[05:16] <dooglus> bye
[05:16] <sizzam> Fitsimmons:  yea,  cant find anything less painful here either :-\
[05:16] <thesilentkiller> i created a partition for data, while installing ubuntu. now i want to make it sharable between ubuntu and windows xp (dual boot). so i am planning to format the partition with fat32. what tool do i use for this?
[05:16] <kingright> when i install Multimedia Plug-in for Mozilla Firefox do i add the text file it gives me to sources.list?
[05:16] <gnomefreak> wickedpuppy,  i never tried lisp im working on C and its hard enough with all the rules
[05:17] <kingright> first line is # Configure file for MozPlugger 1.6 (modified for Debian)
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> gnomefreak, lisp is different from c , you will love it :P
[05:17] <gimmulf> dooglus:  /var/lib/apt/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_Release.gpg /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_Release.gpg /var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_Release.gpg
[05:17] <gnomefreak> wickedpuppy,  thank you i will look into it any good lisp books?
[05:18] <dooglus> gimmulf: thanks.  but I realised that's no use to me.  :)
[05:18] <adriyel> lisp???
[05:18] <adriyel> wtf
[05:18] <adriyel> people still use that?
[05:18] <BeanDip> cafuego, no dice on the kernel param mem-2G
[05:18] <nickrud> kingright, that's the mozplugger package you're talking about?
[05:18] <BeanDip> :/
[05:18] <adriyel> chr1st, language is older than me, and it's not C, AND, still in use?
[05:18] <BeanDip> mem=2G even
[05:18] <gnomefreak> adriyel, all i know is lisp is a language other than that i have not a clue
[05:19] <dooglus> gimmulf: does "sudo apt-get update" show errors for you?
[05:19] <nickrud> kingright, where'd you get it?
[05:19] <gnomefreak> if C had less rules it would be great
[05:19] <pupil> what is the default runlevel for ubuntu?
[05:19] <adriyel> gnomefreak, lisp is a language spawned from and typically used (used to be) in academia. I know very litle about it, beyond that they did AI experimentation with it, not really sure why, maybe because it had a cool way of handling logical switch blocks or something
[05:19] <dooglus> pupil: it's 2
[05:20] <pupil> dooglus, just checking,.
[05:20] <kingright> i did  $ sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[05:20] <kingright> $ sudo apt-get install mozplugger
[05:20] <kingright> $ sudo cp /etc/mozpluggerrc /etc/mozpluggerrc_backup
[05:20] <kingright> $ sudo gedit /etc/mozpluggerrc
[05:20] <dooglus> pupil: see /etc/inittab
[05:20] <naked31> what color is my name ?
[05:20] <gnomefreak> adriyel,  is it concidered high level?
[05:20] <dooglus> naked31: white, like everybody else's
[05:20] <adriyel> dunno, I would think so.
[05:20] <thesilentkiller> naked31: pink, i use gaim
[05:20] <nickrud> it belongs exactly where it is.
[05:20] <pupil> dooglus, yes, just making sure,. I was using ltsp,. I had set runlevel to 5 and set it back to 2 and now I can't use nfs
[05:21] <adriyel> from the descriptions and indications of it I would think so, but again, you'd have to ask someone more familiar with it
[05:21] <Enzeru^> hi, im currently installing ubuntu and its at 'configuring ap' and it has paused 50% through at 'testing network repository', its been at that for around 8 minutes, has it frozen?
[05:21] <naked31> your darkgreen and pink
[05:21] <naked31> bonne nuit. tcho
[05:21] <dooglus> Enzeru^: the network repository is broken
[05:21] <davidmccabe> adriyel: they used lisp for AI because lisp was the only real language back then, and AI was what CS people did back then.
[05:21] <pupil> dooglus,  any ideas?
[05:21] <Enzeru^> so what do i do?
[05:22] <gimmulf> dooglus:  no
[05:22] <gnomefreak> only reason i started with C is cause ppl told me its a great beginners language
[05:22] <davidmccabe> Does somebody have a question about Lisp?
[05:22] <davidmccabe> gnomefreak: they're wrong ;)
[05:22] <nickrud> kingright, in the firefox location box, about:config should tell you that mozplugger is enabled
[05:22] <gnomefreak> im learning that one ty
[05:22] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:22] <dooglus> gimmulf: what does this say?    grep "Package: libggi2$" /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages
[05:22] <adriyel> davidmccabe, that was the general impression I had, and what are you trying to say about C (lisp was only real lang) *angry face*
[05:22] <Enzeru^> dooglus: so what do i do?
[05:23] <davidmccabe> gnomefreak: consider learning Scheme. There are some excellent full-length books online.
[05:23] <gnomefreak> davidmccabe, can you tell me a good beginners lang.? less rules easy to learn
[05:23] <davidmccabe> adriyel: C didn't exist before 1970.
[05:23] <nickrud> kingright, doh. about:plugins, sorry
[05:23] <adriyel> oh..you're talking way back
[05:23] <dooglus> Enzeru^: I don't know.  I didn't try installing from a breezy CD yet
[05:23] <davidmccabe> gnomefreak: Scheme or Python. I'd personally recommend scheme.
[05:23] <adriyel> this is before Unix's time then
[05:23] <Enzeru^> dooglus: oh ok
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> gnomefreak, you can try practical common lisp or ansi common lisp
[05:23] <adriyel> I'd recommend perl/python :P
[05:23] <gimmulf>  dooglus  no suck file or directory
[05:23] <gimmulf> such :)
[05:23] <gnomefreak> ok ty davidmccabe im gonna google scheme now
[05:23] <dooglus> Enzeru^: what if you unplug the network while installing?
[05:24] <Enzeru^> dooglus: I'll give it a try, thanks
[05:24] <davidmccabe> gnomefreak: the topic on #scheme has some great URLs.
[05:24] <davidmccabe> gnomefreak: my system is trashing at the moment, but msg me and I'd be glad to talk with you later.
[05:24] <kingright> k
[05:24] <icemilo> ermm
[05:24] <icemilo> guys
[05:24] <icemilo> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[05:24] <icemilo> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.2.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[05:24] <dubski> anyone know how to change default music player and picture viewers?
[05:24] <icemilo> what do i have to do when this comes out..?
[05:24] <dooglus> gimmulf: I see you're using "se." mirror...  so:
[05:24] <dooglus> grep "Package: libggi2$" /var/lib/apt/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages
[05:25] <icemilo> how to install gtk+-2.0?
[05:25] <gimmulf> dooglus:  same error
[05:25] <adriyel> sudo apt-get install gtk
[05:25] <adriyel> ?
[05:25] <icemilo> cannot..
[05:25] <gnomefreak> ty davidmccabe
[05:25] <davidmccabe> np.
[05:25] <davidmccabe> good luck.
[05:25] <davidmccabe> bye!
[05:25] <adriyel> sudo synaptic; search for gtk
[05:25] <Enzeru^> dooglus: Thanks, it's working :)
[05:25] <davidmccabe> by the way, my download speed for breezy is a VERY pleasent suprise :)
[05:25] <icemilo> cannot find gtk package..
[05:25] <davidmccabe> ok, ta ta for now.
[05:26] <icemilo> how to do this..?
[05:26] <adriyel> wtf?
[05:26] <dooglus> gimmulf: ok.  ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/*dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages
[05:26] <adriyel> sudo apt-get update
[05:26] <nickrud> icemilo, install libgtk2.0-dev
[05:26] <adriyel> sudo apt-get install (look up)
[05:26] <icemilo> thanjs
[05:26] <icemilo> thanks
[05:26] <icemilo> nickrud: thank you ^-^
[05:26] <adriyel> I can't look up the lib sorry, otherwise I would've done i
[05:26] <nickrud> icemilo, a general rule for that error is find the right -dev file :)
[05:26] <gimmulf> dooglus:  -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1493507 2005-10-22 04:34 /var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages
[05:26] <adriyel> it,
[05:26] <adriyel> not running ubuntu atm :(
[05:27] <dooglus> gimmulf: you don't have a "main" network source?
[05:28] <gimmulf> dooglus:  i dont know
[05:28] <kingright> ok im getting wine now yes
[05:28] <dooglus> gimmulf: can you pastebin your sources.list please
[05:28] <surfdue> whoa doesnt ubuntu come with gnome?
[05:28] <EnsignRedshirt> I tried using mplayer as my firefox plugin for online video, but the playback is very choppy.  I'd like to use realplayer instead, but I can't figure out how to set this up--if it is even possible.  Any suggestions, or pointers to how-tos?
[05:28] <dubski> anyone know how to change default music player and picture viewers? if i try to remove eye of gnome with synaptic it wants to remove ubuntu desktop also.
[05:28] <surfdue> i just installed it went to login but shell login
[05:29] <dooglus> surfdue: it does
[05:29] <surfdue> not gui?
[05:29] <surfdue> why?
[05:29] <surfdue> somehing wrong
[05:29] <surfdue> should i reinstall :P
[05:29] <sorush20> why can't I delete my files?
[05:29] <kingright> it does come with gnome
[05:29] <EnsignRedshirt> I have realplayer installed, but I'm not sure how to get the firefox plugin to work.
[05:29] <surfdue> should i reinstall
[05:29] <kingright> yes
[05:29] <gimmulf> dooglus:  http://pastebin.com/401599
[05:29] <kingright> whet you boot from the cd just hit enter
[05:29] <kingright> dont type any thing
[05:30] <dooglus> EnsignRedshirt: you can usually fix mplayer choppiness by putting a line saying ao=oss in ~/.mplayer/config
[05:30] <surfdue> should i rinstall breezy
[05:30] <EnsignRedshirt> dooglus: I'll give it a shot...
[05:31] <kingright> i thing you should
[05:31] <buntu> Does anyone know why my ppp0 was replaced by "sit0", and now network doesn't come up any longer? (humiliating to need mdk live to get online... :( )
[05:31] <dooglus> gimmulf: add the words main and restricted to the end of line 20
[05:31] <kingright> whet u load the cd just hit enter dont type any thing like expert or linux
[05:31] <GregAsche> when do you guys expect there to be a deb of amarok 1.3.3 out?
[05:32] <surfdue> k
[05:32] <kingright> where does WINE install to?
[05:32] <gimmulf> dooglus:  done
[05:32] <dooglus> gimmulf: then apt-get update again - then install mplayer!  :)
[05:32] <cyberfish_> talk
[05:33] <dooglus> does the breezy cd come with the whole of 'main'?  or just a subset?
[05:33] <gimmulf> dooglus:  i got this error now when i started the package manager: http://pastebin.com/401604
[05:33] <cyberfish_> 
[05:33] <dooglus> gimmulf: you have to 'reload' or whatever the synaptic way is
[05:33] <cyberfish_> 
[05:34] <dooglus> gimmulf: from a command line, "sudo apt-get update"
[05:34] <EnsignRedshirt> dooglus: Groovy, that seems to have worked.  Muchas gracias.  Ciao!
[05:34] <dooglus> EnsignRedshirt: ciao :)
[05:34] <gimmulf> dooglus:  thanks this worked!
[05:34] <kingright> where does WINE install to????
[05:34] <gimmulf> could never have figured that out on my own :)
[05:34] <cyberfish_> 
[05:35] <dooglus> gimmulf: glad to be able to help
[05:35] <cyberfish_> maybe no body
[05:35] <kingright> ok i got it
[05:37] <cyberfish__> 
[05:38] <BeanDip> hmm
[05:38] <BeanDip> I guess himem support is failing on me for some reason
[05:39] <CuriousCat> would anyone remember the name of the DOS emulator for linux?
[05:39] <dooglus> gimmulf: just out of interest - does mplayer play your .avi file?
[05:39] <nickrud> dosemu?
[05:39] <bob2> BeanDip: install a -686 kernel
[05:39] <CuriousCat> nickrud: Oh! thanks! that's the one. :)
[05:40] <lsald> where does rhythmbox get its mp3 codecs from
[05:40] <nickrud> lsald, gstreamer0.8-mad, in universe
[05:40] <BeanDip> bob2 I have one
[05:40] <BeanDip> AHA!
[05:41] <BeanDip> I found my answer
[05:41] <BeanDip> fuckin Dell
[05:41] <mojo_> Anyone here got FreeNX nxclient working on Breezy?  I used Seveas's guide on the WIKI https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX but get this error when runnin nxclient on the client machine "/usr/NX/bin/nxclient: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:41] <mojo_> ".  Searching Synaptic I only find up to C/C++ 6.0 (methinks).  Any ideas?  Do I need to try compiling nxclient from source?  THX!
[05:41] <BeanDip> (Category) Linux on Dell systems FAQ-O-Matic : (Category) Supported Dell systems :rnI have 4GB (or more) RAM in my system. How come Linux sees less than that?rnBIOS must reserve some address space below 4GB for PCI devices such as RAID controllers, SCSI controllers, NICs, etc. RAID controllers in particular may request and be given 256MB each. This is address space that would normally be occupied by RAM, but instead is used by PCI devices.
[05:41] <lightstar> is something wrong with the ubuntu server? cant seem to go there to dl breezy
[05:41] <BeanDip> RAM addresses start at 0 and grow up. PCI device addresses start at 4GB and grow down. As long as there is no overlap, thern     OS will see all available RAM and make use of it. If there is overlap, the PCI devices win, and that RAM is not madern     available to the OS.rnrn This is working as designed per PCI, BIOS, and system chipset specifications.
[05:41] <BeanDip> how shitty is that
[05:42] <BeanDip> :/
[05:42] <surfdue> anyone know were you can get a good cheap domain
[05:42] <surfdue> that includes free nameservers
[05:43] <BeanDip> surfdue
[05:43] <BeanDip> Hostway is cheap
[05:43] <BeanDip> http://www.hostway.com
[05:43] <BeanDip> good service too
[05:43] <bob2> joker.com
[05:43] <dubski> CuriousCat:  http://www.dosemu.org/
[05:43] <sazwerx> anyone know how to clear the "recently file playlist" in Totem?
[05:44] <regeya> dumb question: could a missing apm kernel module cause random lockups?
[05:44] <_jason> sazwerx:  you can clear all lists in places -> recent docs
[05:44] <_jason> is anyone using scilab in breezy?
[05:44] <sazwerx> _jason, ohh.. yes.. thanks.. i forgot :)
[05:44] <josephine_> hello eeryboby!
[05:45] <josephine_> hello everybody!
[05:45] <bob2> regeya: no
[05:45] <bob2> regeya: but the ubuntu kernels include apm anyway
[05:45] <kingright> how do i run WINE?
[05:45] <regeya> bob2: wonder why I'm getting errors about apm.ko being missing in my logs, then
[05:45] <dooglus> kingright: you type "wine program.exe"
[05:45] <IcemanV9> kingright: wine file.exe
[05:45] <bob2> regeya: #flood
[05:45] <i3dmaster> anyone got gizmo working?
[05:46] <josephine_> guys im new in ubuntu.... anyone knows "X Window" means? where to find it?
[05:46] <regeya> bob2: nevermind.  I misread. :-}
[05:46] <bob2> ah
[05:46] <bob2> josephine_: you already have it
[05:46] <bob2> josephine_: and stop trying to install ymessenger, it won't work
[05:47] <josephine_> where bob
[05:47] <bob2> josephine_: (X is the system ubuntu (and linux) use to display graphics on the screen)
[05:47] <josephine_> ahh ok bob
[05:47] <Drakeson> how can I use the breezy live cd/dvd to just install grub on mbr
[05:48] <josephine_> i see... thanks Bob...
[05:48] <slyjab> ymessenger does work
[05:48] <kingright> it tells me
[05:48] <kingright> wine: cannot find 'file.exe'
[05:48] <josephine_> how slyjab?
[05:48] <kingright> Wine failed with return code 1
[05:48] <marc> is there a way to su in ubuntu??
[05:48] <kingright> yes tell me how
[05:48] <bob2> marc: "sudo -s"
[05:48] <nalioth> marc: use sudo
[05:48] <sazwerx> slyjab, what version?
[05:48] <marc> ok thank
[05:48] <slyjab> debian
[05:48] <marc> s
[05:48] <bob2> kingright: uh? that seems pretty clear.
[05:49] <bob2> kingright: give it the path to the .exe file
[05:49] <slyjab> you can't follow yahoos installation instructions though
[05:49] <kingright> what do i do then
[05:49] <josephine_> how slyjab?
[05:49] <bob2> kingright: tell it where the .exe file is
[05:49] <bob2> kingright: it cna't be expected to randomly guess what program you want to run
[05:50] <slyjab> josephine: you have to place the tmessenger file in your home directory then follow yahoos instructions
[05:50] <dubski> slyjab: why not just use gaim?
[05:50] <kingright> like "wine adobe photoshop.exe
[05:50] <josephine_> yeah ive tried already but there are some errors
[05:50] <bob2> kingright: no
[05:50] <kingright> ok then how
[05:50] <wickedpuppy> wine /path/to/photoshop.exe
[05:50] <bob2> kingright: for instance, wine '/mnt/windows/Program Files/whatever/notepad.exe'
[05:51] <slyjab> dubski: have too many friends to have in one window....lol
[05:51] <bob2> it's not confusing, you just need to give a filename that actually exists
[05:51] <slyjab> josephine: what errors
[05:51] <dubski> slyjab: haha
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> kingright, give it the absolute path to ya exe
[05:51] <josephine_> just wait i will copy it
[05:51] <kingright> ok
[05:51] <JeffAMcGee> when I upgraded to breezy, ctrl-alt-f1 and ctrl-alt-plus stopped working, but I can use chvt and ctrl-alt-f7 works from vt1
[05:51] <JeffAMcGee> any ideas?
[05:52] <dubski> slyjab: psi is good too.  setup a jabber account and use transports to connect to any other IM service.
[05:52] <slyjab> dubski: it is an aweful prmitive version of ymessenger though
[05:52] <slyjab> dubski: thank i will play with it i am kinda new to linux
[05:53] <kingright> so can u unzip thing with it too?
[05:53] <bob2> kingright: try asking again
[05:53] <bob2> with more context in your question.
[05:53] <Drakeson> does the live cd have a rescue mode?
[05:53] <dubski> slyjab:  you can read about it here http://psi.affinix.com/
[05:54] <andpoi> How am I supposed to install w32codecs?
[05:54] <bob2> andpoi: however you like. /msg ubotu w32codecs
[05:54] <mojo_> Anyone here got FreeNX nxclient working on Breezy?  I used Seveas's guide on the WIKI https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX but get this error when runnin nxclient on the client machine "/usr/NX/bin/nxclient: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:54] <mojo_> ".  Searching Synaptic I only find up to C/C++ 6.0 (methinks).  Any ideas?  Do I need to try compiling nxclient from source?  THX!
[05:54] <bob2> hahahaha
[05:54] <bob2> go freenx
[05:54] <kingright> like i have a ziped for i can do like .path/windows/prgram file/winzip.exe
[05:54] <kingright> the unzip the file
[05:55] <bob2> kingright: that would be pointles, since ubuntu has it's own programs to unzip things
[05:55] <dubski> slyjab:  synaptic can install it for you automatically
[05:55] <kingright> but you know what i mean right
[05:55] <bob2> kingright: yes you an use wine to run programs that wine can run
[05:55] <mojo_> bob2: ?  You have nxclient working on Breezy?
[05:55] <bob2> mojo_: haha, no way
[05:55] <bob2> mojo_: also, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libstdc%2B%2B-libc6.2-2.so.3&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[05:55] <slyjab> dubski: is it the same format as gain.... ?
[05:56] <slyjab> *GAIM
[05:56] <dubski> slyjab:  different...more like icq or msn
[05:57] <mojo_> bob2: hey, that was awesome.  I didn't know I could search like that.
[05:57] <ianu> hey, i tried #edubuntu, no active users, and i was wondering if Edubuntu had tools for the 7th/8th grade
[05:57] <IcemanV9> slyjab: try it. gaim is the default IM on Ubuntu :)
[05:57] <dubski> slyjab:  you can choose to connect to only your ymess friends with it etc.  so you can use gaim for the others if you want them seperate.
[05:57] <slyjab> i'll give it a shot ... if anything else try it and get rid of iot...lol
[05:57] <mojo_> bob2: So now I guess I'll try adding those packages and see how it works.. :)
[05:57] <brownie17> what is edubuntu?
[05:57] <ianu> Ubunutu's education dist.
[05:57] <IcemanV9> slyjab: i am using gaim for aol, yahoo & msn
[05:58] <slyjab> dubski: i have gaim for aol and msn... i just wante yahoo seperate
[05:58] <ianu> so, does anyone know?
[05:58] <slyjab> but its so primitive
[05:58] <bob2> ianu: what are " tools for the 7th/8th grade"?
[05:58] <ianu> bob2: like world maps (like Google Earth) and study guide stuff
[05:58] <josephine_> slyjab: here's the errors: root@israel:/home/josephine# dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[05:58] <josephine_> Selecting previously deselected package ymessenger.
[05:58] <josephine_> (Reading database ... 56661 files and directories currently installed.)
[05:58] <josephine_> Unpacking ymessenger (from ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb) ...
[05:58] <josephine_> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ymessenger:
[05:58] <josephine_>  ymessenger depends on libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.13.0); however:
[05:58] <josephine_>   Package libgdk-pixbuf2 is not installed.
[05:58] <josephine_>  ymessenger depends on libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0); however:
[05:58] <dubski> slyjab:  use psi then its great.
[05:59] <slyjab> jospehine you have to get libglibl.2 for universe
[05:59] <nalioth> slyjab: you can tell her when she returns
[05:59] <ianu> also, quiz software (you put in questions and answer them)
[05:59] <slyjab> yeah a little late...lol
[06:00] <nalioth> slyjab: along with "please dont paste in here"
[06:00] <kingright> how do i get ymessenger?
[06:00] <bender_> he
[06:00] <ianu> i saw it had the Periotic table, so I was just wondering
[06:00] <bender_> im trying to get that ATI driver installed and its not working... any one able to help?
[06:00] <brownie17> nalioth, is it possible to be able to choose between ubuntu and edubuntu? like with KDE and XFCE and Gnome?
[06:00] <slyjab> nalioth: still learning protocol myself....
[06:00] <nalioth> brownie17: on that i'm not sure, maybe bob2 would know
[06:00] <mojo_> bob2: doing "sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-dbg libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2" did the trick!!!  Now I can run the nxclient.  I guess I'll have to put that solution on the fourums, too, since I posted the question there.  THANKS!!!!
[06:00] <bob2> bender_: edubuntu is ubuntu
[06:01] <brownie17> bob2, is it possible to be able to choose between ubuntu and edubuntu? like with KDE and XFCE and Gnome?
[06:01] <bob2> mojo_: np
[06:01] <bender_> bob2, ...thats.. great..............
[06:01] <bob2> brownie17: all the packages in edubuntu are in the ubuntu archive
[06:01] <bob2> bah
[06:01] <bob2> bender_: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto; which step are you stuck on?
[06:01] <nalioth> bob2: brownie17 wants to know if there is a "edubuntu" option in the sessions menu
[06:01] <davidmccabe> Hi. I'm about to do the breezy upgrade. It says that mplayer-k6 is being held back; how do I find out why? And, is that really a problem?
[06:01] <bender_> i havnt seen taht.. let me check
[06:01] <davidmccabe> Thanks!
[06:01] <brownie17> bob2, yeah, sorry that's what i meant
[06:01] <bob2> nalioth: then no
[06:02] <bob2> it's jst gnome
[06:02] <bob2> davidmccabe: sudo apt-get install mplayer-k6
[06:02] <slyjab> josephine you have to get libglib.2 from universe to get yahoo to work
[06:02] <bob2> davidmccabe: look at what apt says
[06:02] <davidmccabe> bob2: ok. thanks.
[06:02] <_jason> I think I've found a problem with the scilab package in synaptic... but since I'm relatively new I'd like to talk to someone about it... anyone willing to listen?
[06:02] <nalioth> josephine_: and please read the /topic (the part about "please don't paste into the channel")
[06:02] <josephine_> from universe? where is that?
[06:02] <bob2> davidmccabe: (that command means "yo, try to upgrade that package specifically")
[06:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell josephine_ about repos
[06:03] <erisco> how do i get a C compiler?
[06:03] <bob2> _jason: best to just ask
[06:03] <bob2> erisco: install build-essential
[06:03] <davidmccabe> bob2: ... is it going to report any errors before or after it tells me it's going to upgrade a million other packages besides?
[06:03] <erisco> is it not just an apt-get?
[06:03] <nalioth> josephine_: read your priv msg from ubotu
[06:03] <davidmccabe> erisco: you already have one.
[06:03] <erisco> thanks bob
[06:03] <josephine_> sorry nalioth
[06:03] <bob2> davidmccabe: it of course asks you
[06:03] <davidmccabe> erisco: it's called gcc.
[06:03] <davidmccabe> bob2: so I should tell it 'yes' to see the error?
[06:03] <bob2> installing just gcc does not let you compile anything
[06:03] <bob2> davidmccabe: no
[06:03] <bob2> davidmccabe: were you using apt-get upgrade earler?
[06:04] <davidmccabe> bob2: nope. I was using synaptic.
[06:04] <adriyel> hmm
[06:04] <davidmccabe> bob2: (I haven't actually upgraded anything yet, just changed the repos and downloaded the new packages)
[06:04] <josephine_> ok nalioth
[06:04] <adriyel> can anyone help me? alsa_setup(): Failed to open pcm device (default): Device or resource busy
[06:04] <silent> hey
[06:04] <brownie17> can anyone answer a quick question for me? once i was in here whinging about not having drivers for my printer in linux, and someone told me you didn't HAVE to have drivers, and it was possible ot print to it without them. maybe he meant make your own? anyone?
[06:04] <strannik_> could somebody tell me what program I could use to read electronic books (like Ice book reader in Windows)
[06:04] <adriyel> just got out of UT2004, tried to play music, got device or resource busy
[06:04] <adriyel> anyone know whats going on?
[06:05] <bob2> adriyel: seems kinda clear
[06:05] <nalioth> strannik_: pdbs are just fancy text files
[06:05] <silent> quake 4 direct dl here ==>http://vip.netsurf.ru/browse/?r=20684
[06:05] <bob2> brownie17: too vague
[06:05] <brownie17> adjacent, try ending esd and restarting it
[06:05] <_jason> ok here is the problem: Installed scilab from synaptic.  Running scilab pops up an error.  Basically, wants /usr/lib/pvm3/ but I don't have this folder.  My guess is it needs something called pvm (for which there are packages available but I am unsure of what this does).  Anyone have any ideas?  Should I jsut isntall pvm and see what happens?
[06:05] <adriyel> no audio is playing, nothing is using the device
[06:05] <bob2> brownie17: real printers talk postscript, so they Just Work
[06:05] <Phempa> quick question folks, and I'll be outta here
[06:05] <Phempa> whats the new repository?
[06:05] <bob2> brownie17: crappy inkjets require cups drivers
[06:05] <brownie17> bob2, postscript?
[06:05] <nalioth> Phempa: new repository?
[06:05] <kingright> oh yes i have Yahoo! Messenger now!!!!!!!!!!!1
[06:05] <davidmccabe> bob2: thanks for your help. I'm gonna go ahead and deal with mplayer later. :)
[06:05] <bob2> Phempa: what is a "new repository"
[06:05] <adriyel> sudo killall esd
[06:05] <adriyel> esd: no process killed
[06:05] <Phempa> mirrormax is dead
[06:05] <Phempa> right?
[06:06] <brownie17> adjacent, try just sudo esd
[06:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Phempa about backports
[06:06] <slyjab> lol@kingright...you sond like me last night
[06:06] <bob2> Phempa: you're asking some vague questoin about the former backport repository then?
[06:06] <nalioth> Phempa: backports dont exist yet for breezy
[06:06] <adriyel> AGH
[06:06] <Phempa> no
[06:06] <Phempa> 5.04
[06:06] <bob2> brownie17: postscript = the language every non-consumer printer talks
[06:06] <adriyel> IT BURNS THE EARS
[06:06] <kingright> well
[06:06] <strannik_> nalioth: sorry, but i didn't get you..I need some kind of program with which I could read books.. (I have text files, but I want to read them in some fany easy to read format).
[06:06] <kingright> what can i say
[06:06] <kingright> ty
[06:06] <bob2> Phempa: ask on the forums, backports have nothing to do with us
[06:06] <adriyel> same error with xmms
[06:06] <Phempa> ubotu gave me what I need
[06:06] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Phempa
[06:06] <adriyel> even though esd is started
[06:06] <Phempa> thanks :)
[06:06] <slyjab> yw
[06:06] <brownie17> bob2, unfortunately for me, living in a small country town, the only place where you can buy a printer is consumer, rip-off places like harvey norman
[06:07] <nalioth> strannik_: open a terminal and type "apt-cache search ebook" is as good as i can guide
[06:07] <bob2> brownie17: ah, ouch
[06:07] <adriyel> bob2 brownie17 started esd, but xmms is giving same error message, wtf?
[06:07] <erisco> i seriously give up... i have no clue how to get gimpshop to work =( i will never make graphics agai
[06:07] <_jason> ok, does anyone know what PVM is?
[06:07] <nalioth> strannik_: or search at sourceforge.net for an ebook reader
[06:07] <bob2> brownie17: cups really doesn't have a driver for it?
[06:07] <kingright> that is so pimp
[06:07] <bob2> erisco: wtf, just use gimp
[06:07] <nalioth> erisco: what is the problem?
[06:07] <erisco> heh lol
[06:07] <bob2> adriyel: fuser -v /dev/snd/pcm*
[06:07] <Phempa> good night :)
[06:08] <erisco> well i am having so many troubles for every step in the process of getting gimpshop running
[06:08] <bob2> erisco: it's really not worth it
[06:08] <erisco> yes i know it isn;t
[06:08] <bob2> it's gimp with the buttons moved around
[06:08] <nalioth> erisco: you following that asian fellas howto?
[06:08] <adriyel> fuser command not found
[06:08] <Madpilot> brownie17: have you checked linuxprinting.org for info on your printer?
[06:08] <brownie17> bob2, i think it doesn't.
[06:08] <adriyel> wait, think I got it
[06:08] <lsald> ok
[06:08] <adriyel> mpg321 is working
[06:08] <brownie17> Madpilot, no, never heard of it, ill try now
[06:08] <erisco> i don't know who he or she is
[06:08] <adriyel> xmms might not be using alsa or something
[06:08] <Madpilot> !tell brownie17 about printers
[06:08] <adriyel> thats bizarre
[06:08] <adriyel> works now
[06:08] <adriyel> starting and ending esd fixes it?
[06:08] <qmanman|away> anyone used TV-out with the ATI drivers?
[06:09] <erisco> i just wish linux had a windows type thing where you just stick it in and it works
[06:09] <TiMiDo> hey people
[06:09] <erisco> i hate compiling... nightmare
[06:09] <bob2> erisco: stick what in?
[06:09] <Kyral> compiling is fun :D
[06:09] <TiMiDo> erisco wwhat you compiling?
[06:09] <quam> are usb devices an issue in kubuntu/ubuntu? my usb flash drive will work if i plug it in after boot, but my mice (i've tried 2, one wireless, one not) have to be plugged in at boot to work.  sometimes if i unplug my usb wireless adapter, it'll freeze the whole system
[06:09] <bob2> erisco: gimpshop isn't available with synaptic because no one cared enough to do so
[06:09] <nalioth> erisco: check this out. it's very good. http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/
[06:09] <erisco> taunt me kyral?
[06:09] <Madpilot> erisco: you mean the GIMP's irritating habit of spawning windows everywhere?
[06:09] <bob2> erisco: gimp is installed by default, even
[06:10] <TiMiDo> quam sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart;
[06:10] <Kyral> erisco, no
[06:10] <adriyel> bob2 I think starting and ending esd solved it
[06:10] <kingright> cool yahoo on ubuntu
[06:10] <adriyel> I ctrl-c'ed out of esd, and then everything started working...
[06:10] <Kyral> I'm a CS Major :D
[06:10] <quam> timido: so all i need to do is restart hotplug? thanks
[06:10] <brownie17> which is better, LILO or GRUB?
[06:10] <strannik_> nalioth thanx
[06:10] <twysted> Hey im running breezy and after installing swat and restarting inetd swat doesnt listen on port 901 or any other port, samba is installed and working correctly as well, yes i have uncommented swat in /etc/inetd.conf and have tried restarting the computer to no solution, any ideas?, you can msg me
[06:10] <erisco> i would use gimp but i learned photoshop for a few years now
[06:10] <TiMiDo> grub brownie17
[06:10] <adriyel> Kyral, talk architecture to me baby, you know...that CPU architecture I like
[06:10] <bob2> brownie17: just use the default, grub
[06:10] <erisco> changing enviroments isn't fun
[06:10] <imajuchi> hi everyone when i run k3b i get this message but when i click on k3bsetup it appears a blank windows.cdrecord will be run with root privileges on kernel >= 2.6.8
[06:10] <imajuchi> Since Linux kernel 2.6.8 cdrecord will not work when run suid root for security reasons anymore.
[06:10] <imajuchi> Solution: Use K3bSetup to solve this problem.
[06:11] <adriyel> thanks bob2 even if it is baffling
[06:11] <Kyral> adriyel, O_O
[06:11] <adriyel> *grins*
[06:11] <erisco> and i follow it step by step
[06:11] <Madpilot> erisco: switching from PS to the GIMP is possible, but slow...
[06:11] <imajuchi> i cant burn anything under normal useer
[06:11] <Kyral> I don't know what you like but I like it K7 style...mmm
[06:11] <imajuchi> but i can as root
[06:11] <TiMiDo> imajuchi what software?
[06:11] <imajuchi> anyone has a clue?
[06:11] <imajuchi> k3b
[06:11] <brownie17> bob2, is there a way i can use, or adapt to be usable the epson stylus c46 driver for use on my epson stylus c45 printer?
[06:12] <TiMiDo> are you serious?
[06:12] <twysted> erisco it can seem like a pain to switch from PS to GIMP if you already know PS really well but it doesnt take too much effort :)
[06:12] <TiMiDo> k3b is made for the normal users,
[06:12] <imajuchi> thats the message i get
[06:12] <adriyel> I like it K8 Kyral, you know them 64-bit extensions, I like them registers big...twice as big...
[06:12] <TiMiDo> did you open it as root?
[06:12] <Kyral> adriyel, this is disturbing...
[06:12] <imajuchi> i cant burn using gnomebaker neither
[06:12] <bob2> brownie17: just try using it
[06:12] <adriyel> Kyral, it makes it better that I have a g/f, who is totally fascinated with computers, and I could just as easily do this with her
[06:13] <adriyel>  *laughs*
[06:13] <imajuchi> yes i did open it as root
[06:13] <Madpilot> brownie17: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_C46
[06:13] <brownie17> Madpilot, hahah my printer is about the only epson stylus that doesn't have a linux driver, the model before and after both do too.
[06:13] <imajuchi> and it works
[06:13] <stevnblinux> I have a RAID 5 supermicro 2.4 xeon server which is running hoary with no problems.  Decided to try a breezy install tonight.  Fails shortly after boot with kernel panic.   Any pointers on where to start looking?
[06:14] <imajuchi> there seems to be a problem with the cdrecord permission but i cant find anything on how to fix it
[06:14] <Madpilot> brownie17: just noticed that; there isn't even an entry for C45 at linuxprinting...
[06:14] <adriyel> is anyone here familiar with ncurses?
[06:14] <twysted> >Hey im running breezy and after installing swat and restarting inetd swat doesnt listen on port 901 or any other port, samba is installed and working correctly as well, yes i have uncommented swat in /etc/inetd.conf and have tried restarting the computer to no solution, any ideas?
[06:15] <nalioth> adriyel: i have a passing familiarity with plain curses
[06:16] <adriyel> nalioth, had some difficulty implementing it some time back, was porting an app from win32 land that relied upon conio.h, was attempting to make a somewhat graceful transition to ncurses, never got it to work, getch() was particularly troublesome, especially given that getchar() is actually significantly different in the situation it was being placed in
[06:16] <brownie17> Madpilot, does that mean that no-one has tried it, and it might work? or it is not possible?
[06:16] <adriyel> brownie17, does your printer work right now?
[06:17] <brownie17> Madpilot, i am having difficutly understanding, is this website telling me for the cups plug-in it is allready on my hardrive?
[06:17] <twysted> brownie17 it might work it might not just try maybe the next up model's driver or the older one
[06:17] <brownie17> adriyel, no
[06:17] <Madpilot> brownie17: no idea, sorry. Probably it means that noone has ever sent linuxprinting info
[06:17] <adriyel> kkz, just making sure we aren't conjecturing ourselves to death
[06:17] <adriyel> is cupsd running?
[06:17] <imajuchi> stevnblinux try booting with apci or something like that off, it work for me :)
[06:18] <adriyel> screw...I was going to look something up, forgot what it was, bloody stupid memory
[06:18] <stevnblinux> imajuchi, apci? what is that and how do I turn it off?  I assume you mean by passing it at boot:?
[06:18] <adriyel> OH YEAH
[06:18] <adriyel> open office
[06:18] <imajuchi> at the beginning of the installation press f1 or f3
[06:18] <imajuchi> it will give you more booting options
[06:18] <stevnblinux> imajuchi, k. thx.
[06:18] <stevnblinux> brb
[06:18] <Madpilot> has anyone gotten an ATI 9600XT card working w/ full 3d in Breezy? It worked fine in Hoary, I've followed the wiki, and I still can't get it running properly!
[06:19] <imajuchi> then see if you can find linux acpi=off
[06:19] <imajuchi> and boot with that command
[06:19] <imajuchi> it work for me
[06:19] <adriyel> Madpilot, good lord, you brought an ATI card into this? unholy defilement :|
[06:19] <imajuchi> good luck
[06:19] <brownie17> does breezy contain openoffice2 allready?
[06:19] <adriyel> no, lol, I don't even run Ubuntu
[06:19] <Madpilot> adriyel: like I said, it worked beautifully in Hoary...
[06:19] <adriyel> <--- Blag user
[06:20] <adriyel> Madpilot, you must be favored by God then
[06:20] <Madpilot> brownie17: Breezy has OOo2, yes
[06:20] <adriyel> I'll stick with my GF6800GT
[06:20] <sector10> hey how do i like remove the kernel?
[06:20] <adriyel> sector10, switching to bsd or something?
[06:20] <sector10> thinking of it
[06:21] <frizzzzle> ubotu:  tell me about ipod
[06:21] <imajuchi> does anyone know if theres any drivers for the cannon multipass f80 ?
[06:21] <sector10> ive got ubuntu here and suse on the laptop
[06:21] <kingright> wow that so cool i got ymessenger
[06:21] <erisco> alright i have pin-pointed my problem with XML parser, if anyone could help
[06:21] <adriyel> use PC-BSD or FreeBSD if you really want to switch, I'd highly suggest sticking with Linux though
[06:21] <stevnblinux> imajuchi, Well, linux acpi=off resulted in same kernel panic
[06:22] <imajuchi> ohh
[06:22] <erisco> all goes good until this
[06:22] <erisco> Expat.xs:12:19: error: expat.h: No such file or directory
[06:22] <sector10> stevnblinux; is it a notebook?
[06:22] <imajuchi> umm, i was getting kernel panic and that did it for me :9
[06:22] <erisco> and then quite a large number of error lines shoot off
[06:22] <imajuchi> :(
[06:23] <imajuchi> maybe there is an expert in the house
[06:23] <cyphase> what's with all the naked backgrounds anyway?
[06:23] <cyphase> lol
[06:23] <erisco> i was doing the command  cpan -i XML::Parser
[06:23] <kono> any1 wanna help a first-timer?
[06:24] <stevnblinux> sector10, nope.  Full supermicro 2.4 xeon server w/ raid 5 scsi
[06:24] <erisco> anyone have a clue? i can paste most of the log if you open a tab
[06:24] <kono> im following this guide thing
[06:24] <kono> and it tells me to edit a file
[06:24] <mojo> hello every1
[06:24] <sector10> stevnblinux: what about pcmcia?
[06:24] <kono> but there is no mime-configuration
[06:24] <nalioth> erisco: you got the cpan module installed, i assume?
[06:24] <kono> how do i set that:S
[06:24] <mojo> I just found out a great NEWS for Yahoo Messenger fan
[06:24] <slyjab> dubski: i went to the download page for psi i don
[06:24] <stevnblinux> It is giving "kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt"
[06:24] <brownie17> Madpilot, i am having trouble, do you mind going to website for me and actualy locating the url for the file i need to download?
[06:25] <stevnblinux> sector10, pcmcia?  you mean to turn it off?
[06:25] <slyjab> tdubski:see any for debian or ubuntu
[06:25] <mojo> the new GTK2 GUI will be relased soon for Yah00! Messenger for Linux - check this out http://opax.swin.edu.au/~4089294/ymess1.png
[06:25] <brownie17> mojo, is that advertsiing?
[06:25] <Madpilot> brownie17: download for what?
[06:25] <kono> if i installed ubuntu as a server
[06:25] <kono> can i open the GUI?
[06:26] <nalioth> kono: if you install a gui into it
[06:26] <imajuchi> stevnblinux try playing with the different booting options until you get it. thats how i solved it. I was lucky that it work for me rightway
[06:26] <Dekkard> kono..
[06:26] <brownie17> Madpilot, the epson stylus c46 driver for CUPS
[06:26] <mojo> brownie17: sort of
[06:26] <Dekkard>  what he said
[06:26] <tufkal> evening folks, im trying to solidfy my understanding of window managers.  If metacity, sawfish, wmaker, enlightenment,  twm, blackbox, and icewm are window managers, what is kde/gnome?  What defines 'desktop enviorment'?
[06:26] <kono> sorry im a newb at this
[06:26] <Dekkard> kde gnome are des
[06:26] <kevogod> mojo, First party client?
[06:26] <stevnblinux> imajuchi, is there anything that tells me all of the options available to play with?
[06:26] <Madpilot> brownie17: from which site?
[06:26] <nalioth> tufkal: desktop manglers?
[06:26] <kono> and im just soo confused
[06:26] <kono> the guide tells me
[06:26] <kono> "edit etc/network/interfaces"
[06:27] <kono> but then it tells me i need sumthing like "application/*"
[06:27] <Dekkard> network interfaces are..like yer eth0
[06:27] <tufkal> nalioth, heh
[06:27] <imajuchi> did you press f1 or f3, that will give you information on different options
[06:27] <hyphenated> kono: what guide is that?
[06:27] <kono> what should i type in
[06:27] <imajuchi> try it. it might help
[06:27] <kono> wait ill find it
[06:27] <davidmccabe> Eek!
[06:27] <kono> http://howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p3
[06:28] <davidmccabe> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu20_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/imgicon.xpt', which is also in package mozilla-firefox
[06:28] <hyphenated> kono: and what is it you're trying to set up?
[06:28] <davidmccabe> oops; sorry that wrapped wrong. anyways, then apt-get dies and appearently has to start from the beginning.
[06:28] <kevogod> I never even knew Yahoo! offered a Unix client.
[06:28] <davidmccabe> no wait, it doesn't start from the beginning. still, what am I to make from that?
[06:28] <kono> i just wanna finish every thing on the guide
[06:28] <brownie17> Madpilot, if it is too much trouble, that's allright, don't worry about it
[06:28] <Kyral> It sucks
[06:28] <hyphenated> kevogod: it's probably easier to pretend they didn'
[06:28] <Kyral> GAIM > YIM
[06:29] <imajuchi> good luck stevnb and dont give up :) i goint to sleep good night people
[06:29] <erisco> does anyone know how to install the cpan module? or where can i find out? the cpan readme didn't have anything useful in it...
[06:29] <stevnblinux> imajuchi, thx. good night
[06:29] <Madpilot> brownie17: you can't get to the linuxprinting.org download area?
[06:29] <kevogod> Well, I have never used YIM anyway.
[06:29] <kingright> how do i install jave for fire fox?
[06:29] <slyjab> kevogod: it is a primitive version but it works...
[06:29] <kingright> java*
[06:29] <adriyel> ahem, I'll take an open source app over a propietary one, given that its not terrible
[06:29] <adriyel> so, Gaim pwnzorz Y!M
[06:29] <imajuchi> hopefully everything will be good for you :) good night
[06:29] <buntu> Final call... Google and myself are exhausted...  I had working PPPoE under Hoary. Today, after weeks of uptime/online I rebooted and suddenly "pon dsl-provider" didn't bring up ppp0 interface any longer but "sit0" instead. Breezy Live fails the same way (pppoeconf can't find "Access Concentrator") and only the recent 3rd-party Mandrake-live sets up PPPoE correctly.  How do I get ppp0 back under Ubuntu, instead of the new "sit0"?  I've
[06:29] <brownie17> Madpilot, well i can, but i am retarded, and the link just seems to give me more information onf CUPS
[06:29] <buntu>  downloaded security updates over the last weeks without rebooting but haven't knowingly reconfigured anything network-related.  I havn't done windows for over 10 years and reinstalling Ubuntu (after it has worked already for long) sounds ridiculous.  If no one has even slightest idea what to try...  :(
[06:29] <Kyral> GAIM owns YIM regardless ;P
[06:29] <kevogod> Gaim needs to support Video.
[06:30] <Kyral> I should really go to bed...
[06:30] <Kyral> goodnight!
[06:30] <kingright> how do i install java for fire fox?
[06:30] <hyphenated> kono: when it says to edit something, it can be done in a number of ways. there are editor programs for shells, and editor programs for GUI environments
[06:30] <adriyel> Yahoo are a bunch of bastards, they've only just now taken an interest in Linux because the dumbfscks realized it was the new way, they're just a bunch of leeches, stick it to them, stick with gaim
[06:30] <kono> so can any1 tell me what to type in?
[06:30] <starscalling> hum
[06:30] <brownie17> Madpilot, from here i got no further: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_driver.cgi?driver=gimp-print&fromprinter=Epson-Stylus_C46
[06:30] <hyphenated> kevogod: they're working on it. those things aren't easy to reverse-engineer
[06:30] <starscalling> what would yall recommend for monitoring bandwidth current // total
[06:30] <kono> how do i get to the GUI?
[06:30] <hyphenated> kono: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:30] <kono> ty
[06:31] <hyphenated> kono: you need to install it first! :-)
[06:31] <kingright> !ubotu tell kingright about java
[06:31] <kevogod> adriyel, I would not be calling them bastards. They are at least investing money into the Linux market. This in turn helps Linux as a whole.
[06:31] <adriyel> mayhaps, but their support of it previously was abysmal
[06:31] <kono> instaling...
[06:31] <kevogod> adriyel, Not that any current Linux user would even fathom using their client...
[06:31] <slyjab> realplayer also has a linux version now
[06:31] <kono> hypenated, PM?
[06:31] <starscalling> o.o
[06:31] <hyphenated> kono: nope. I phase in and out
[06:31] <ldog> hey guys, just trying out this distro...
[06:31] <starscalling> sup ldog
[06:32] <Madpilot> brownie17: looking at that page, I think the c46 drivers should be packaged in Ubuntu already, with the gimp-print stuff. All of that is, IIRC, installed by default
[06:32] <hyphenated> kono: I appreciate that you asked first though :-)
[06:32] <adriyel> because of their history, my thoughts regarding them will nearly always be scathing, even if I presently use their protocol with gaim
[06:32] <starscalling> kinda nice eh :P
[06:32] <ldog> just pulled down kde with apt... how do i get nice fonts?
[06:32] <kevogod> slyjab, Well, it is based off of their open source Helix architecture.
[06:32] <twysted> adriyel> yahoo has had "unix" client for sometime its nothing recent
[06:32] <adriyel> I even use gaim in win32
[06:32] <ldog> starscalling, very very nice
[06:32] <adriyel> twysted, I am aware of the bloody unix client, HAVE YOU USED THAT ATROCITY?
[06:32] <kono> lol
[06:32] <kono> its ok
[06:32] <starscalling> Madpilot what would you recommend for monitoring current b/w usage?
[06:32] <kingright> how do i get java for FireFox?
[06:32] <adriyel> that thing would go for fiscal years without an upgrade...
[06:32] <kono> ubuntu can run on 256mb ram with a 10gb HDD right...:S
[06:32] <Madpilot> starscalling: current what usage?
[06:32] <adriyel> I doubt it really worked anymore, to speak of
[06:32] <twysted> !ubotu tell kingright about java
[06:32] <kingright> yep
[06:33] <kono> ty lol
[06:33] <adriyel> maybe some old bloke on a FreeBSD 3 machine got it working...
[06:33] <starscalling> bandwidth usage
[06:33] <starscalling> just a speed monitor
[06:33] <TiMiDo> fbsd  is the best
[06:33] <starscalling> perhaps something that kept total usage in mind too
[06:33] <kevogod> Well, their support of Linux is still greater than Google's.
[06:33] <hyphenated> starscalling: locally or remotely?
[06:33] <starscalling> i was checking out ntop but thats got more than i need really...
[06:33] <TiMiDo> !bsd
[06:33] <ubotu> TiMiDo: I give up, what is it?
[06:33] <adriyel> FreeBSD is the best...for servers, in terms of stability. Linux wins in speed
[06:33] <starscalling> and locally
[06:33] <hyphenated> kevogod: how do you figure that?
[06:33] <TiMiDo> yeah
[06:33] <twysted> lets take all of this offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:33] <pupil> ok,. I have a Airplus G card, Where do I find the drivers for it,. its a wireless card?
[06:33] <kono> any1 wanna teach me to be better?
[06:33] <adriyel> OpenBSD is best for security
[06:33] <kono> like what all the commands are and stuff?
[06:33] <kevogod> hyphenated, What has Google released for Linux/*BSD?
[06:33] <adriyel> Win32 is best for IQ Deficients
[06:33] <hyphenated> starscalling: I use gkrellm to monitor lots of bits and pieces
[06:33] <TiMiDo> !tell kono about doc
[06:33] <Madpilot> starscalling: if you install the System Monitor panel applet, it tracks Mb up and down
[06:34] <adriyel> kevogod, did I say anything about using Google's stuff? :P
[06:34] <starscalling> hyphenated bits and pieces?
[06:34] <hyphenated> kevogod: they just invested gosh-knows how much money in sponsoring open-source projects
[06:34] <twysted> lets take all of this offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:34] <starscalling> Madpilot thats total MB then up and down? will it mess up around 4 gigs or can it handle into the TB?
[06:34] <kevogod> hyphenated, A very small portion of their profits?
[06:34] <silent_scream> how can i delete everything in mozilla, and be like the day i first installed it?
[06:34] <adriyel> hyphenated, kevogod he refers to the "Summer of Code" funded quite a bit of work....
[06:34] <davidmccabe> twysted: Preach it!
[06:34] <adriyel> kevogod, yeah, and how many projects have other companies funded?
[06:35] <silent_scream> i mean all the modifications i made?
[06:35] <starscalling> and will it tell me 25KB/s out // 5Mbit in?
[06:35] <hyphenated> starscalling: date, time, cpu, processes, temperature, disk accesses, cpu and battery capacity
[06:35] <adriyel> how many companies have taken notice of Linux beyond as a means to increasing profit
[06:35] <davidmccabe> Hallelujah!!
[06:35] <Madpilot> starscalling: I've got no idea, I've never tracked it that closely!
[06:35] <starscalling> o sounds nice hyphenated, i think ive seen one of those
[06:35] <adriyel> Google has long relied upon Linux as their server, they are giving back through the summer of code, remember, Google has shareholders now, and have to answer largely to them
[06:35] <hyphenated> starscalling: it's not that great, but it keeps me happy. it may be worth a try to see if it makes you happy too, tis all
[06:36] <adriyel> they can't just tithe into Linux projects
[06:36] <adriyel> they've got to turn out healthy profits
[06:36] <starscalling> ah i c Madpilot :P im thinking of something locally, but im going to be getting another server at a datacenter so i want to think of something that i can track total usage with too :P
[06:36] <twysted> guys take it to #ubuntu-offtopic  this is a support channel
[06:36] <erisco>   make had returned bad status, install seems impossible
[06:36] <kevogod> adriyel, There is no reason why they cannot release multi-platform programs.
[06:36] <adriyel> the summer of code accomplished quite a bit, even if there is always being an opportunity for more to be done
[06:36] <erisco> it is impossible -.-
[06:36] <erisco> geez this is annoying
[06:36] <adriyel> kevogod, thats puzzled me for some time now
[06:36] <airtonix> does anyone know how i can a html page showing on my desktop as wallpaper in ubuntu, like you could with active desktop in wondoze
[06:36] <hyphenated> erisco: what's annoying?
[06:36] <kevogod> adriyel, You say they support open source? Yes, perhaps. But only to some basic level.
[06:36] <twysted> airtonix> you cant
[06:37] <adriyel> kevogod, they supported the summer of code, not open source
[06:37] <airtonix> there must be some software that allows me to do this
[06:37] <silent_scream> how can i delete every modification i've done in mozilla, and be like the day i first installed it?
[06:37] <adriyel> they don't open source their own work, nor do they provide applications for non-win32 stuff
[06:37] <twysted> airtonix> and god knows why you would want to ever do such a thing
[06:37] <kevogod> adriyel, The summer of code is about open source.
[06:37] <airtonix> silent_scream: apt-get remove mozilla-firefox????
[06:37] <adriyel> however, what they do, shows good-will, more so than multi-platforming
[06:37] <hyphenated> silent_scream: in a shell, you'd delete the directory ~/.mozilla
[06:37] <nalioth> silent_scream: delete your ~/.mozilla/<RANDOM>.default
[06:37] <hyphenated> silent_scream: in a GUI, you'd probably have to enable hidden directories
[06:37] <kevogod> " The Summer of Code is Google's program designed to introduce students to the world of open source software development."
[06:37] <br00tal> does anyone know how I can get framebuffer to work on Breezy?  Hoary worked fine, but Breezy's a bit tougher.
[06:38] <adriyel> kevogod, indeed it is, but they aren't they themselves making/releasing open source code, nor is there a Google Earth for Linux yet
[06:38] <kevogod> This seems a bit contradictory to Google's business operations.
[06:38] <adriyel> nor a Google Desktop Search (not that we need it anymore: Beagle)
[06:38] <kevogod> or Picasa
[06:38] <adriyel> that too.
[06:38] <twysted> kevogod, adriyel enough bickering about google its getting old and lame
[06:38] <airtonix> twysted: coz i want to
[06:38] <hyphenated> silent_scream: alternatively, you could have a field-day by putting "about:config" in the address bar, and resetting every changed option :-)
[06:38] <adriyel> we're not bickering
[06:38] <kevogod> Yea, we're not
[06:38] <adriyel> I am merely puzzled over google's contradictory history of actions, I want to know why they haven't multi-platformed
[06:39] <silent_scream> no guys i just want to make mozilla be as the first time i installed it...!
[06:39] <kevogod> They are two faced
[06:39] <adriyel> no reason not to, a lot of that code can't be too terribly hard to port
[06:39] <silent_scream> i don't want to uninstall it..
[06:39] <twysted> they havent multi platformed becuase everything else costs money
[06:39] <slyjab> remove it and reinstall it silent_scream
[06:39] <buntu> Not a single response...   :(   and I barely even made it here using another live distro. Enjoy your "Official Ubuntu support channel" chat.
[06:39] <hyphenated> silent_scream: nalioth and I both suggested ways that would achieve that
[06:39] <twysted> all of theyre servers are custom coded kernels as well
[06:39] <adriyel> buntu, whats wrong?
[06:39] <airtonix> twysted: it was a great idea, coz i'd like to create my own ajax stuff that can run off the desktop like an applet
[06:40] <adriyel> twysted, that doesn't surprise me, optimizations for OpenMOSIX I assume?
[06:40] <twysted> airtonix>  *shudders*
[06:40] <airtonix> twysted: why shudder
[06:40] <airtonix> twysted: do you not like html or javascript or xml
[06:40] <twysted> adriyel, i dont recall the specifics but it was very interesting
[06:40] <erisco> i cannot get glib to make
[06:40] <airtonix> twysted: or just m$ type stuff
[06:41] <erisco> my terminal won't even hold all the errors
[06:41] <twysted> airtonix> i like my os without my browser built into it
[06:41] <nalioth> silent_scream: this is linux. the programs do not belong to you, they belong to the box. the box lets YOU use the program, but makes you keep your settings in YOUR home folder. deleting that settings folder from your home directory will effectively take you back to day one
[06:41] <airtonix> oh
[06:41] <airtonix> twysted: your using a cli then? purest...lol
[06:41] <sazwerx> where can i get the OOo .deb file?
[06:41] <twysted> lol
[06:42] <Madpilot> sazwerx: OO comes installed in Ubuntu by default
[06:42] <adriyel> nalioth, good explanation.
[06:42] <airtonix> yeah i know how you feel sometime, i wonder about sean kennedy's the afternopw and
[06:42] <sazwerx> i mean the v2.0
[06:42] <kevogod> I assume he speaks of the 2.0 release.
[06:42] <adriyel> although I think it made him feel like he has no control
[06:42] <adriyel> lol
[06:42] <Madpilot> sazwerx: Breezy has OOo2 by default ;)
[06:42] <airtonix> and wonder if a gui will work effectivly in the afternow
[06:42] <frizzzzle> is there a way to reinstall or fix gnome if it breaks during the upgrade to breezy?
[06:42] <gillion> greetings
[06:42] <sazwerx> yup
[06:42] <kevogod> Madpilot, No, it has RC2 by default, no?
[06:42] <airtonix> cya fellas
[06:43] <Madpilot> kevogod: no idea, it's some version of OOo2... is the full release out now?
[06:43] <sazwerx> .. i don't use breezy :(
[06:43] <kevogod> Madpilot, Yes.
[06:43] <sazwerx> anyway, thanks
[06:43] <thesilentkiller> full release was only released last week i guess
[06:43] <frizzzzle> i'm getting an error at the login screen that says "the configuration file contains an invalid command line for the login dialog..."
[06:43] <kevogod> The full release was released this week I believe.
[06:43] <slyjab> nalioth: is that true for all customizab;e packages?
[06:43] <kevogod> (final... not full)
[06:43] <frizzzzle> i think i told it to keep the old configuration instead of overwrite it.  that's what google is telling me, anyway.
[06:43] <nalioth> slyjab: customizable?
[06:44] <OsirisX11> Hi people! I'd love some advice on how I can make my windows automatically center themselves by default, right now in most programs they default to top left.
[06:44] <adriyel> madpilot, OOo2 Final is out
[06:44] <Madpilot> kevogod: cool, just visited OOo website. Good to know. Whatever version is included in Breezy seems very stable, anyway...
[06:44] <slyjab> with user settings?
[06:44] <adriyel> diff between final and full?
[06:44] <adriyel> any?
[06:44] <kevogod> Madpilot, If there is to be made one exception to version incrementing, I believe this should definitely be one.
[06:44] <La_PaRCa> ok, im officially freaking out... I am tired and did and rm *.java instead of *.class
[06:45] <La_PaRCa> how do I recover my .javas?
[06:45] <IcemanV9> i'm using OOo2 RC3 .. i don't think there is any difference between RC3 & Final
[06:45] <slyjab> nalioth: programs with setting options
[06:45] <adriyel> ACK
[06:45] <kevogod> La_PaRCa, With the amount of effort I would be willing to put forth, I would say you are SOL.
[06:45] <adriyel> crap.
[06:45] <adriyel> I download OOo2
[06:46] <adriyel> downloaded
[06:46] <duncanm> anyone know what's the deal with SCIM on Breezy?
[06:46] <adriyel> got a SH!Tload of rpm's
[06:46] <kevogod> La_PaRCa, Although there are data recovery solutions that I know nothing about.
[06:46] <nalioth> slyjab: open a terminal and type "ls -a". everything with a . in front of it is a config file or folder for your stuff
[06:46] <kevogod> adriyel, Use alien
[06:46] <OsirisX11> How can I make my windows automatically center themselves on GAIM?
[06:46] <kevogod> adriyel, Although I am not sure how well that would work...
[06:46] <nalioth> adriyel: language please
[06:46] <adriyel> kevogod, not ubuntu here, not necessary, HOWEVER
[06:46] <kevogod> Well, he did use the cute exclamation point. Even Yahoo! does that.
[06:46] <tarheelcoxn> OsirisX11: have you asked in #gaim?
[06:47] <adriyel> openoffice.org-core02 is needed by openoffice.org-core01-2.0.0-3.i586
[06:47] <adriyel>         openoffice.org-core03 is needed by openoffice.org-core01-2.0.0-3.i586
[06:47] <adriyel>         openoffice.org-core04 is needed by openoffice.org-core01-2.0.0-3.i586
[06:47] <adriyel>         openoffice.org-core05 is needed by openoffice.org-core01-2.0.0-3.i586
[06:47] <adriyel>         openoffice.org-core06 is needed by openoffice.org-core01-2.0.0-3.i586
[06:47] <La_PaRCa> thats really helpful
[06:47] <OsirisX11> tarheelcoxn: thank you, good idea.
[06:47] <adriyel> sigh/
[06:47] <nalioth> adriyel: why do you do it? lol
[06:47] <adriyel> do what?
[06:47] <kevogod> adriyel, Flood/paste.
[06:47] <adriyel> sorry :(
[06:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adriyel about paste
[06:48] <OsirisX11> [correction]  How can I make my windows automatically center themselves on GNOME?
[06:48] <adriyel> can you help me with the above however?
[06:48] <adriyel> I can't install any one of the cores without needing the other
[06:48] <kingright> sweet i got java
[06:48] <adriyel> and they are the base dependency for the rest
[06:48] <adriyel> ideas?
[06:48] <nalioth> adriyel: where did you get those things?
[06:48] <tarheelcoxn> OsirisX11: they should pull up in the same place they last were
[06:48] <slyjab> nalioth: so wou you just delete the contents or the entire folder?
[06:48] <adriyel> www.openoffice.org
[06:49] <nalioth> slyjab: delete at your own risk
[06:49] <slyjab> lol
[06:49] <nalioth> slyjab: sometimes "renaming" the file/folder is a better option
[06:49] <frizzzzle> does anybody have an idea for me?  i think i just need to overwrite the gdm configuration file with the new one.
[06:49] <adriyel> rm ./folder ./folder_backup
[06:49] <nalioth> slyjab: because sometimes you find it WASNT the file/folder causing all the trouble
[06:49] <adriyel> help? :(
[06:50] <nalioth> adriyel: i asked you a question
[06:50] <adriyel> my repository only offers OOo 1.1
[06:50] <slyjab> nalioth: thanks for the tip...
[06:50] <surfdue> hey guys
[06:50] <adriyel> I already told you nalioth, www.openoffice.org
[06:50] <surfdue> aparently there was some packages brokenduring install gnome dosnt come up, how do i fix this
[06:50] <adriyel> thats the official release
[06:50] <nalioth> adriyel: gotta use my nick when you talk to me in here
[06:50] <surfdue> im logged in to a terminal looking such
[06:50] <hyphenated> frizzzzle: in a shell, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm ?
[06:50] <adriyel> kkz
[06:50] <nalioth> adriyel: are they deb files?
[06:50] <surfdue> can i upgrade and fix the system with apt-get upgrade ?
[06:50] <adriyel> nalioth, not using ubuntu, irrelevant
[06:50] <frizzzzle> ok, hyphenated.  thanks for the tip.
[06:50] <adriyel> nalioth, they are rpm's
[06:50] <nalioth> adriyel: not using ubuntu?
[06:50] <thesilentkiller> how do i disable the screensaver? i dont see any options in System -> Preferences -> ScreenSaver
[06:51] <adriyel> nalioth, no, using blag. www.blagblagblag.org
[06:51] <nalioth> thesilentkiller: turn it to "never"
[06:51] <surfdue> guys?
[06:51] <surfdue> please!
[06:51] <adriyel> surfdue?
[06:51] <kevogod> adriyel, You are using Hoary?
[06:51] <surfdue> how do i fix this
[06:51] <nalioth> adriyel: you are confusing me. let me get some whiskey and we can do it from both sides
[06:51] <kevogod> adriyel, Or what?
[06:51] <adriyel> kevogod, NOT USING UBUNTU
[06:51] <kevogod> adriyel, :P
[06:51] <adriyel> lol
[06:51] <surfdue> im stuck in a broken ubuntu
[06:51] <surfdue> ! :(
[06:51] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, surfdue
[06:51] <kevogod> adriyel, Then go to a different channel.
[06:51] <adriyel> I am going to go beserk, excuse me
[06:51] <thesilentkiller> nalioth: duh...thanx
[06:52] <kevogod> adriyel, No offense.
[06:52] <adriyel> now
[06:52] <adriyel> you do realize that there is no support channel for my distro here, right?
[06:52] <hyphenated> surfdue: first thing to do is run: sudo apt-get -f install
[06:52] <nalioth> adriyel: in ubuntu we can have dpkg install debs ignoring dependencies. whatever OS you are using, you can look for something with a similar feature
[06:52] <kevogod> adriyel, What is your distro?
[06:52] <adriyel> blag
[06:52] <adriyel> aka, blagblagbalg
[06:52] <hyphenated> surfdue: that should fix any broken packages
[06:52] <adriyel> I am running version 30001 of Blag
[06:53] <adriyel> (not a typo)
[06:53] <slyjab> surfdue: look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[06:53] <TiMiDo> ok i'm back
[06:53] <nalioth> adriyel: we're gonna have to ask you to leave.
[06:53] <adriyel> nalioth, kevogod should I just do a forced installation with the rpm command? blag supports yum/apt
[06:53] <nalioth> adriyel: running a variant of fc3 is horrendous
[06:54] <adriyel> nalioth, ask me to leave? pfft, if you want me to drop it fine, but don't make me leave, I try to help here.
[06:54] <nicholaspaul> I have a Question for everybody :) ANyone know of a USB wifi dongle that works with PPC?
[06:54] <surfdue> i founbd out i dont think the internet works
[06:54] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: why are you out of your cage?
[06:54] <surfdue> i setup ethernet,...
[06:54] <davidmccabe> Yay! Breezy upgrade done!
[06:54] <adriyel> nalioth, running a variant of anything is generally horrendous. this is the most troublefree distro I've ever ran
[06:54] <surfdue> eth0 isnt showing anything
[06:54] <nicholaspaul> aaah caught me !! hi nalioth
[06:54] <surfdue> nothing is moving
[06:54] <adriyel> I'll do an rpm -f and let you know
[06:54] <TiMiDo> rpm sucks
[06:54] <ubuntu> deb rulz
[06:54] <adriyel> rpm does suck, thank you.
[06:54] <ubuntu> changed to a real distro,
[06:54] <adriyel> yes I know, thats my distro supports apt-get and synaptic too!
[06:55] <nalioth> adriyel: the vast vast majority of users in here have 0 clue what you are talking about
[06:55] <adriyel> *bangs head on desk*
[06:55] <nalioth> adriyel: you're gonna have to use 'force'
[06:55] <adriyel> nalioth, I am getting that impression
[06:55] <ubuntu> Redhat Packaged Manager =)
[06:55] <kevogod> adriyel, It would be better if you went to #fedora
[06:55] <adriyel> I am not using Red Hat....
[06:55] <adriyel> kevogod, bah. I hate Fedora.
[06:55] <adriyel> its a small piece of hades I avoid
[06:55] <nalioth> adriyel: but you ARE using an fc3 based system
[06:55] <quam> fedora is great *sarcasm*
[06:55] <adriyel> more bloated than the United States Government...
[06:56] <adriyel> FC3 based, but heavily modified
[06:56] <kevogod> adriyel, Yes, but Ubuntu is Debian based and Fedora is Fedora based.
[06:56] <kevogod> Thus, you should try #fedora
[06:56] <kevogod> *Blag
[06:56] <nalioth> adriyel: you can stay here. just dont expect any usable answers 9/10 times
[06:57] <kevogod> If you are picking a random distribution channel, then #fedora would probably be most helpful in solving your problem.
[06:57] <adriyel> rpm --nodeps
[06:57] <Pickle_Weasel> is there a program that can burn alcohol 120% formats? (.mds/.mdf)?
[06:57] <stevio> Is there a list or link of all the packages in the apt-get repository?
[06:57] <thesilentkiller> how do i lock my computer? currently, i close my laptop and open it....it wud lock itself  (WOW!). i guess there wud be an elegant way :)
[06:57] <adriyel> thats the solution more than likely, I'll let you know
[06:57] <adriyel> heh, I've already gotten correct answers on 2 issues here
[06:57] <nalioth> stevio: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:57] <stevio> sweet. thx bro
[06:57] <adriyel> I can adapt responses to make them pertinent to my situation
[07:00] <frizzzzle> i think i'm going to download the image and install from scratch.  i'll also reformat the windows partition since i know ubuntu is good.
[07:00] <stevnblinux> Still struggling with install of breezy.  server has an adaptec 2010S Zero Channel RAID controller.  I have tried many startup switches around acpi etc... nothing seems to fix the kernel panic.  Any ideas around the SCSI RAID controller?
[07:00] <frizzzzle> unable to fix the gdm thing and i'd like to see the changes during install.
[07:01] <adriyel> hmm
[07:01] <jordan> does anyone in here have warcraft III running here in wine?
[07:01] <pupil> I have a problem,. my wireless card is not supported by a manufacturer,. is there something I can do about it,. my card is the 510 http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=357
[07:02] <oli> i did a backup...on a dvd ...and formated my hd...and...my backup wont copy or read files :|
[07:02] <jordan> ohh snap!
[07:02] <stevnblinux> kernel panic errors seem to center around i2o errors.
[07:02] <kono> uhhh
[07:02] <kono> installing the gui failed...
[07:03] <slyjab> oli: what backup prog did you use?
[07:03] <oli> k3b
[07:03] <oli> just a DATA dvd ..
[07:03] <kono> i dont think im connected to the internet on that computer
[07:03] <kono> how can i fix this :S
[07:03] <adriyel> nalioth, kevogod I got it working, require --nodeps, and some tedious desktop integration installation, but all in all, wasn't too bad, --force didn't work, thats for a seperate issue
[07:03] <slyjab> oli; try rsnapshot
[07:04] <B_166-ER-X> what it is ?
[07:04] <nalioth> adriyel: cool then
[07:04] <slyjab> its a backup prog
[07:04] <adriyel> *nods*
[07:04] <nicholaspaul> pupil, whats the problem?
[07:04] <adriyel> besides, part of the reason I hang here, is the ubuntu community is generally more friendly/helpful
[07:04] <IcemanV9> pupil: that is too bad. mine is 650 and it works beautifully with madwifi
[07:04] <pupil> nicholaspaul, solving it now
[07:05] <pupil> IcemanV9, I found the solution
[07:05] <adriyel> going into a debian channel is like a practice in darwinism, fedora, a practice in apathy...lol
[07:05] <pupil> madwifi
[07:05] <sorsis> what's matter, my fortune seems to give depressing quotes?
[07:05] <kono> can any1 help me?
[07:05] <pupil> IcemanV9, madwifi
[07:05] <nicholaspaul> ok goodthing pupil :)
[07:05] <pupil> http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=2386&sort=8&cat=133&page=1
[07:05] <adriyel> sorsis, you would seem to have bad luck on the rise?
[07:05] <pupil> nicholaspaul, indeed,. reading up on it now
[07:05] <IcemanV9> pupil: terrific! :)
[07:06] <sorsis> adriyel: oh my :(
[07:06] <Kream> adriyel:  and what about #gentoo?
[07:06] <kono> ohh wait maybe it is installed
[07:06] <kono> how do i ru the GUI now?
[07:06] <kono> ru
[07:06] <kono> run*
[07:06] <da_twilight> I have 2 linux installations...   fedora and mandriva..  i want to run a software installed in fedora in mandriva. Is it possible to do so
[07:06] <adriyel> Kream, gentoo people are nice, but that is DEFINITELY not applicable to my given situation
[07:06] <Kream> da_twilight:  possibly. depends on the dependencies.
[07:06] <La_PaRCa> gotta love sleuthkit and icat
[07:06] <oldfox> list
[07:06] <La_PaRCa> :/:/
[07:06] <nalioth> da_twilight: you're in #ubuntu
[07:07] <melvztechie> hello: can we upgrade openoffice to final release? is it possible?
[07:07] <adriyel> #ubuntu is the best, compromise.
[07:07] <sorsis> da_twilight: it is
[07:07] <da_twilight> no
[07:07] <da_twilight> in mandriva
[07:07] <theplateau>  lol someone is afraid of gentoo people?
[07:07] <Kream> adriyel:  yeah but in my experience, they've been getting more unfriendly
[07:07] <theplateau> they are frusterated
[07:07] <adriyel> that so?
[07:07] <adriyel> thats a shame
[07:07] <kevogod> #ubuntu is #anylinuxdistrosupport channel, AFAIK
[07:07] <Kream> adriyel:  and I speak as a diehard gentoo user
[07:07] <adriyel> I used to use Gentoo
[07:07] <nalioth> adriyel: more of your handiwork?
[07:07] <adriyel> then I puked on portage and left
[07:07] <adriyel> nalioth, 'scuse mahs?
[07:07] <theplateau> i broke my cdrom because of gentoo
[07:07] <kono> how do i run the GUI?
[07:08] <IcemanV9> melvztechie: only if you can compile :)
[07:08] <stevnblinux> anyone with experience installing breezy with SCSI/RAID?
[07:08] <da_twilight> sorsis:   how to go about iy
[07:08] <Kream> ah well
[07:08] <Kream> life goes on
[07:08] <nalioth> adriyel: you drag da_twilight and his mandriva/fedora question in here?
[07:08] <theplateau> got so frusterated after screwing up weeks of work
[07:08] <adriyel> Kream, yeah, got tired of portage hardcore....
[07:08] <jabra> anyone need docs to install breezy?
[07:08] <Kream> every #distro has horror stories about #otherdistro
[07:08] <adriyel> nalioth, not my doing. I started coming in here with hoary...I just didn't stop...
[07:08] <sorsis> da_twilight: problem is that many linkages to libraries point to mount points and other locations of other distro. change to those, make things available in path etc and you problem is solved
[07:08] <Dekkard> kono did you install a session manager?
[07:08] <kevogod> They end up going to FreeBSD
[07:08] <kono> sorry im a totoal noob :S
[07:08] <adriyel> kevogod, duh. BSD's ports is more graceful and less obfuscated.
[07:09] <kono> i done know what a session manager is
[07:09] <adriyel> kono, wanna feel really n00bish? attempt a stage1 tarball install of gentoo!
[07:09] <pupil> going to bed,
[07:09] <pupil> GNIGHT all
[07:09] <kono> lol
[07:09] <sorsis> da_twilight: but why in earth you would like to do thing like that?
[07:09] <adriyel> g'night puppy.
[07:09] <Dekkard> kono did you do a standard install?
[07:09] <kevogod> stage3 is all I need
[07:09] <pupil> heh
[07:09] <hyphenated> kono: sudo init 2
[07:09] <kono> server
[07:09] <sorsis> da_twilight: i bet you are doing something that could be be done more easier
[07:09] <melvztechie> IcemanV9: i see, but anyone tried it already? hope its stable?
[07:09] <adriyel> kevogod, too obsessive compulsive, couldn't stand the idea of not bootstrapping it myself
[07:09] <djperegrine> I treid installing kubuntu, but it said I didn't have a 32-bit processor
[07:09] <kono> sudo init 2 does nothign
[07:09] <djperegrine> I have a zv5000
[07:10] <kevogod> #ubuntu-offtopic is available
[07:10] <djperegrine> which has a 64-bit processor :O
[07:10] <adriyel> djperegrine, you rockin 8086 style?
[07:10] <hyphenated> kono: what does 'who -r' output?
[07:10] <theplateau> a session is a given set of time constituting an amount of which work and play are carried out, the session manager is code that that dictates how the session should behave of course
[07:10] <djperegrine> I guess, what should I do?
[07:10] <da_twilight> i dont have enough space in the mandriva installation for installing it afresh
[07:10] <Dekkard> kono sudo gdm
[07:10] <B_166-ER-X> any1 knows the name of the package, of the applet that let you change desktop space just by pushing your mouse on the side of the screen ??
[07:10] <kono> run level 2 oct 22 23:36     last=s
[07:10] <adriyel> kono, are you in console?
[07:10] <theplateau> i finally figured out how to  do make qtconfig in ubuntu
[07:10] <djperegrine> ello?
[07:10] <theplateau> gksu sudo make qtconfig
[07:11] <adriyel> djperegrine, hello?
[07:11] <kono> yeh
[07:11] <kono> i did sudo gdm :S
[07:11] <theplateau> that was a pain to figure out
[07:11] <adriyel> gksu and sudo...? redundant?
[07:11] <Dekkard> nuffin?
[07:11] <kono> its a black screen now
[07:11] <kono> maybe its loading?
[07:11] <nalioth> kevogod: you have to be more direct in offering #ubuntu-offtopic for use
[07:11] <djperegrine> why does it say I have a 32-bit processor when I have a 64-bit processor
[07:11] <Dekkard> maybe...
[07:11] <adriyel> nalioth, :)
[07:11] <sorsis> da_twilight: just backup your essential files, remove other distros and keep one. UBUNTU!
[07:11] <kono> or maybe i installed too high res for my monitor...
[07:11] <adriyel> nalioth, see the chaos I have wrought upon your sanctuary? :)
[07:12] <adriyel> kono, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver
[07:12] <SlicerDicer-> is there a way to do apt-get nodeps type thing?
[07:12] <newbie_at_linux> what kernel does 5.04 have?
[07:12] <adriyel> Dekkard, linkage?
[07:12] <Dekkard> kono.. here is my advice.. run the standard ubuntu desktop install.. and if you need servers install them afterward
[07:12] <sherman> 2.6.9 newbie_at_linux
[07:12] <nalioth> adriyel: we'll just nail some cheap paneling up after your gone
[07:12] <IcemanV9> 2.6.10
[07:12] <adriyel> Slicer, what deps are missing, what package is being installed?
[07:12] <adriyel> nalioth, lol.
[07:13] <newbie_at_linux> i thought 5.10 was supposed to use a newer kernel than 5.04
[07:13] <sorsis> newbie_at_linux: 2.6.9 by default. 2.6.10 wen updated
[07:13] <kono> i have a black screen cos i types sudo gdm...
[07:13] <kono> how do i get out of that
[07:13] <kono> restart?
[07:13] <GregAsche> how do I get gnome to stop forcing me to have icons for all my partitions on my desktop
[07:13] <SlicerDicer-> adriyel, its not that a package is missing or deps are missing its just a newer version and the program I am trying to put on "avidemux" broke with a update of libmp4 pakcage update
[07:13] <adriyel> kono, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver <--- I'm telling you man...
[07:13] <Dekkard> sudo apt-get install ubuntu desktop
[07:13] <SlicerDicer-> so I need it to ignore libmp4
[07:13] <IcemanV9> 2.6.12 is newer than 2.6.10 .. no?
[07:13] <adriyel> SlicerDicer-, kkz, one mmt plz
[07:13] <SlicerDicer-> all deps are there its just the wrong version so its freaking out :/
[07:13] <SlicerDicer-> alright adriyel
[07:13] <kono> adriyel, PM?
[07:14] <sorsis> IcemanV9: true
[07:14] <Dekkard> i need caffiene an nicotene
[07:14] <IcemanV9> newbie_at_linux: what did `uname -r` tells you?
[07:14] <Dekkard> an aspirin will give me all three major food groups
[07:14] <adriyel> WTF?
[07:14] <adriyel> why would an apt-compatible distro not have dpkg?
[07:14] <djperegrine> Dargify
[07:14] <kono> dekkard, pm?
[07:14] <adriyel> sudo apt-get install dpkg feels so freaking wierd
[07:15] <Dekkard> sure
[07:15] <kono> ty
[07:15] <adriyel> strange.
[07:15] <kevogod> adriyel, What distro are we talking about?
[07:15] <adriyel> SlicerDicer-, I can't do it myself because of dpkg, but if you can get apt to download the packages for you, or if you can download the .debs, you can prolly do a --nodeps type thing with dpkg
[07:15] <adriyel> kevogod, ...sighs... Blag.
[07:16] <SlicerDicer-> adriyel, ok I will give that a shot adriyel
[07:16] <Dekkard>  kono.. im querying you
[07:16] <sorsis> Dekkard: caffiene is my gasoline while nikotine is katalyte!
[07:16] <kevogod> adriyel, Blag does not include dpkg?
[07:16] <adriyel> *nods* sorry I couldn't give you the switch for nodeps on dpkg, it isn't presently available. *growls @ box*
[07:16] <nalioth> kono you cannot private message anyone until you register and identify
[07:16] <jasmuz> guys im having a firefox issue here....got no browser just because i updated, what is wrong?
[07:16] <adriyel> kevogod, it includes apt-get, but not dpkg.
[07:16] <adriyel> the repository doesn't even offer dpkg
[07:16] <nalioth> kevogod: blag is fc3 based
[07:17] <adriyel> nalioth, its apt-compatible darn it :P
[07:17] <kevogod> nalioth, Yes, and yet adriyel hates Fedora Core.
[07:17] <adriyel> kevogod, that is true.
[07:17] <nalioth> adriyel: it's apt has been confused into using rpm
[07:17] <adriyel> *cries* leave me alone
[07:17] <theplateau> does anyone take advantage of the kde ways to alter keyboard shortcuts
[07:17] <kevogod> adriyel, Fedora Core can use apt
[07:17] <adriyel> I'm aware of this, especially since FC3 is using it right now...
[07:17] <slyjab> jasmuz: log out and log back in it will usually load
[07:17] <SlicerDicer-> adriyel, worked thanks
[07:18] <jasmuz> slyjab: let me try
[07:18] <adriyel> SlicerDicer-, sweet, happy to be a help
[07:18] <sorsis> jasmuz: you could make apt-get update || apt-get xhexk
[07:18] <kevogod> Then why would you use FC3 variant if you hate Fedora?
[07:18] <theplateau> i have like the best keymap system set up, i pres the windows keys for everything and a logical button for whatever im doing, but the right one won't work
[07:18] <SlicerDicer-> --ignore-depends=libmp4-0 is what I had to do
[07:18] <adriyel> *sticks tongue out @ nalioth*
[07:18] <kevogod> I fail to see the logic.
[07:18] <adriyel> SlicerDicer-, kkz. was curious
[07:18] <theplateau> this is frusterating
[07:18] <theplateau> you guys are gnome heads too so im not getting anyhelp
[07:18] <SlicerDicer-> adriyel, there is no really --no-deps option its ignore foo
[07:18] <kevogod> theplateau, #kubuntu exists
[07:18] <Dekkard> try kubuntu?
[07:19] <SlicerDicer-> adriyel, maybe I should add the feature hehe
[07:19] <adriyel> kevogod, fine. Find me a debian based distro, that has mp3 support, dvd support, all of my hardware working, and minimal hassle of installation of nvidia propietary drivers?
[07:19] <theplateau> i would if it were active
[07:19] <adriyel> SlicerDicer-, I am on an RPM distro...rpm uses --nodeps, but by all means, add the feature
[07:19] <nalioth> adriyel: my ubuntu works great on all those points
[07:19] <kevogod> adriyel, Linspire
[07:19] <adriyel> Linspire?
[07:19] <adriyel> screw that.
[07:19] <adriyel> go die.
[07:19] <theplateau> lol
[07:19] <adriyel> I'd rather use...
[07:19] <kevogod> Windows
[07:19] <adriyel> yup.
[07:20] <kevogod> adriyel, It was no hassle for me to set all of that up on Ubuntu.
[07:20] <adriyel> yeah, except Breezy was unstable for me
[07:20] <adriyel> it kept crashing.
[07:20] <theplateau> dude i downloaded linspire when it was free cus i like to get deals, but that was honestly the worst form of linux ive ever seen
[07:20] <adriyel> the only consistent aspect of it for me was the crashing.
[07:20] <kevogod> I have to question how such an elite Gentoo user finds this difficult.
[07:21] <theplateau> i dont get the fascination , they failed in their attempt to make the thing easy,  well it was easy but it was insanely slow
[07:21] <adriyel> kevogod, I am supposed to automagically fix hard freezes, that are present for no apparent reason?
[07:21] <kevogod> I mean, you do use stage 1. "Stage 1!"
[07:21] <adriyel> since when did following an xml installation manual for stage 1 mean becoming God?
[07:21] <kono> how do i startup as console
[07:21] <adriyel> kevogod, please kill -9 yourself :P
[07:21] <kono> after i installed the gui
[07:21] <adriyel> change the init...to (3?)
[07:21] <theplateau> lol
[07:22] <adriyel> gentoo isn't that hard, its just a hassle...
[07:22] <kevogod> adriyel, It is a matter of comparing the difficulty of setting up proprietary support in Ubuntu to doing a stage1 install.
[07:22] <adriyel> kevogod, I am going to say this one last time. Breezy was NOT stable for me. It hard froze, a lot.
[07:22] <theplateau> doesnt seem like the compilation is worth it to me
[07:22] <theplateau> breezy is very stable for me
[07:22] <kevogod> adriyel, I then question why you are hanging around in an Ubuntu channel then.
[07:22] <adriyel> theplateau, the performance benefits are rarely significant to the average user.
[07:22] <nalioth> adriyel: was that the final or a preview release?
[07:22] <theplateau> but im careful with linux
[07:23] <adriyel> kevogod, because I like helping people. nalioth final
[07:23] <nalioth> kevogod: he's fine here
[07:23] <darren> hi, im having trouble getting winXP to boot with grub on a Dell inspiron 8600. I think there's an 8MB Dell partition at the beginning of the disk that is making things difficult
[07:23] <adriyel> I've reburnt the iso 5 times nalioth, all with a redownload
[07:23] <darren> root(hd0,0) returns "Unknown partition type 0xF"
[07:24] <kevogod> Did you verify the ISO? (just checking)
[07:24] <GregAsche> is eog crashing every time for anyone else?
[07:24] <darren> and the WinXP partition i a logical partition, not a primary
[07:24] <GregAsche> fresh breezy install and it just won't stay open
[07:24] <adriyel> kevogod, yes, I md5'ed it. every single time.
[07:24] <kingright> can BitTornado d/l more then one file at a time?
[07:24] <paulproteus> I've heard good things about Linspire, actually.
[07:24] <adriyel> well, every single time after the first time kevogod
[07:24] <nalioth> adriyel: you burnt it at 1x?
[07:24] <adriyel> paulproteus, feel free to try it
[07:24] <adriyel> nalioth, I tried it @ 40, 32, 12, then 1.
[07:24] <kevogod> paulproteus, I've heard mixed things about it.
[07:25] <newbie_at_linux> some of my xfce software went to the gnome menu!! is this normal??
[07:25] <nalioth> adriyel: perhaps a hoary install and then upgrade
[07:25] <kingright> can BitTornado d/l more then one file at a time???
[07:25] <nalioth> newbie_at_linux: it's fine
[07:25] <nalioth> kingright: you'll need to start a new instance
[07:25] <GregAsche> no one?
[07:25] <kingright> how do i do that?
[07:25] <theplateau> yea sometimes i enjoy mixing the desktop environments
[07:25] <newbie_at_linux> nalioth: is that supposed to happen?
[07:25] <paulproteus> adriyel: I may, now that VMWare costs no money.  QEMU is still way slow.
[07:25] <darren> where are the w32codecs, etc? I have breezy-extras added, but most packages I had from hoary aren't there
[07:26] <rony> paulproteus, huh?
[07:26] <jordan> grrrrrrrrr - I HATE WINE!!!
[07:26] <adriyel> nalioth, I question the gracefulness of an upgrade as opposed to a fresh install
[07:26] <rony> paulproteus, I don't think so
[07:26] <newbie_at_linux> How can I uninstall software that was installed from a .run file
[07:26] <nalioth> newbie_at_linux: it happens to all of us, install kubuntu-desktop and you'll have kde/gnome/and xfce4 stuff in your menus
[07:26] <paulproteus> rony: You don't think so for what?
[07:26] <kevogod> My major complaint with Linspire is that it does not scare users out of using the root user as a full time account.
[07:26] <kingright> ok i got it
[07:26] <adriyel> nalioth, besides, I follow the "just works" philosophy. Until Blag fails/breaks on me, it stays where it is
[07:26] <paulproteus> rony: Google for VMWare Player for a free-as-in-beer VMWare.
[07:26] <rony> paulproteus, There is a free player but VMware costs money
[07:27] <paulproteus> rony: The "player" can play images created using a script on the QEMU mailing list.
[07:27] <rony> paulproteus, Yeah but the player ISN'T a full version of VMEare
[07:27] <adriyel> paulproteus, please, don't touch linspire, it has briars and thorns :)
[07:27] <paulproteus> So, really, it can do all I want - emulate a PC for simple running of VMs.
[07:27] <newbie_at_linux> nalioth : didnt know kubuntu could be installed in ubuntu will it be exactly the same as kubuntu when i use it?
[07:27] <adriyel> newbie_at_linux, if you config it to use kdm and kde, for all intents and purposes, it will be the same yes
[07:28] <paulproteus> Good night, all. :)
[07:29] <nalioth> newbie_at_linux: x/k/ubuntu are all the same underneath
[07:29] <adriyel> same framework
[07:32] !lilo:*! FYI, a new channel has been opened: ##physicaltherapy .... it's for folk who are undergoing physical therapy for rehabilitation after injuries, etc.... a place to compare notes. If the subject matter is germane, please stop by. Thanks.
[07:32] <YokoZar> What language is the word "ubuntu" from?
[07:33] <YokoZar> All I can glean from the web is it's "African"
[07:34] <GregAsche> Zulu and Xhosa languages
[07:34] <YokoZar> Thanks.  I'm heading off to South Africa for study abroad and decided to learn Sotho while I'm there, heh.
[07:35] <GregAsche> cool
[07:35] <YokoZar> Maybe I'll run into Mr. Shuttleworth at Cape Town ;)
[07:36] <adriyel> ah yes
[07:36] <adriyel> the bdfl.
[07:36] <YokoZar> the what
[07:37] <adriyel> benevolent dictator for life
[07:37] <adriyel> aka shuttleworth, aka torvalds.
[07:37] <adriyel> you need to read the dev mailing list for ubuntu ;)
[07:37] <YokoZar> He's not a benevolent dictator for life, he's a benevolent sugar daddy
[07:37] <adriyel> lol.
[07:37] <adriyel> you should see his irc name
[07:37] <adriyel> its that acronym
[07:38] <adriyel> (its yabdfl right? I know its ??bdfl)
[07:38] <YokoZar> I had been reading the dev list, then I was homeless/moving last month without my computer
[07:38] <YokoZar> He's actually messaged me before, so I dunno
[07:38] <adriyel> what was his IRC name?
[07:39] <YokoZar> adriyel: I forgot, heh
[07:39] <YokoZar> All I remember was it wasn't obvious
[07:40] <helpme> yummy.fresh install of ubuntu...from whr do i get w32codecs etc?
[07:40] <adriyel> YokoZar, his name is sabdfl
[07:41] <lsald> any ppc guys still hanging around?
[07:41] <adriyel> self-appointed benevolent dictator for life
[07:41] <Madpilot> !tell helpme about w32codecs
[07:41] <adriyel> or, south african benevolent dictator for life
[07:41] <nalioth> lsald: ppc users are everywhere
[07:41] <YokoZar> Mark will soon buy out the entire Southern African Customs Union, methinks
[07:41] <adriyel> they are nalioth ?
[07:41] <YokoZar> Then he will invade Zimbabwe with free Software
[07:41] <adriyel> or wait, was I supposed to question that?
[07:42] <nalioth> adriyel: yes have you seen any ppc users?
[07:42] <adriyel> YokoZar, lol.
[07:42] <adriyel> nalioth, one...two?
[07:42] <adriyel> nalioth, do I need to be visiting San Francisco or something?
[07:42] <nalioth> lsald: what is your question?
[07:42] <lsald> well, for any ppc 'peeps' the wiki talks about java-package which is not in my apt-cache
[07:42] <kevogod> YokoZar, Um, if you haven't been reading lately, Microsoft seems to be doing the buying.
[07:42] <adriyel> lol, nali is ignoring me. *laughs*
[07:42] <nalioth> adriyel: ? again i'm confused
[07:42] <lsald> maybe i need to uncomment backport
[07:42] <adriyel> nalioth, ignore me.
[07:42] <adriyel> I am just teasing you
[07:42] <nalioth> lsald: breezy has no backports
[07:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lsald about javadeb
[07:43] <davidmccabe> Wooo! Breezy!
[07:43] <davidmccabe> Thank you all who helped.
[07:44] <YokoZar> kevogod: Microsoft is buying mercenary soldiers and staging in Angola to defend against the wave of Ubuntu volunteers sweeping the SACU
[07:44] <lsald> nalioth, i am not 386, ppc
[07:45] <nalioth> lsald: d'oh, adriyel is confusing the stuffing out of me
[07:45] <adriyel> YES!
[07:45] <adriyel> my day is done.
[07:45] <nalioth> lsald: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC
[07:46] <lsald> nalioth, right, that was what i was refering to
[07:46] <lsald> the java-package is not there
[07:47] <linux-noob> does ubuntu have a boot flopy
[07:47] <lsald> nalioth, but i just found that java is haging out in multiverse with a new name
[07:47] <Kream> sa in bdfl is self-appointed not south african, adriyel
[07:47] <linux-noob> can anyone help a NOOB
[07:48] <andrew> if i'm using mergedfb with the open-source radeon driver, is dri unsupported? does that mean that my video playback cannot be hardware-accelerated?
[07:48] <nalioth> lsald: use the ibm java
[07:48] <nalioth> linux-noob: it does not have a boot floppy
[07:49] <adriyel> Kream, its generally thought of as self-appointed and thats why I initially explained it as such, however on rare occaisions its been used as south african
[07:49] <dmlinux> In winblows how do i determine WHICH video card my girlfriend has in her laptop, it only says MOBILITY RADEON. thats it.. i need to know if its upgradeable
[07:49] <linux-noob> humm well what do you do is you have a fujitsu P1110 that has a USB cdrome that will not boot the CD ??
[07:49] <surfdue_> cam someone give me an ideal sources.lists
[07:49] <Kream> ah
[07:50] <surfdue_> list*
[07:50] <Kream> i stand corrected
[07:50] <surfdue_> please
[07:50] <surfdue_> !sources
[07:50] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[07:50] <kevogod> Kream, I have never heard someone use South African.
[07:50] <Kream> kevogod:  me either. but then again, i'm just a gentoo-ricer :)
[07:50] <davidmccabe> Why o why would xorg be using %50 of CPU continually after I enable nvidia glx and restarted X?
[07:51] <linux-noob> humm well what do you do is you have a fujitsu P1110 that has a USB cdrome that will not boot the CD ??
[07:51] <kevogod> Kream, I'm a Yggdrasiller myself.
[07:52] <adriyel> ...
[07:52] <adriyel> ricers, egg crap. african nationalists
[07:52] <adriyel> ubuntu is starting to feel like a B movie
[07:52] <adriyel> like plan 9 or something.
[07:52] <kevogod> or Doom
[07:52] <adriyel> that too.
[07:52] <Kream> not to mention fedora wearers
[07:52] <adriyel> lol. bugger off.
[07:52] <adriyel> I am a blagger
[07:53] <Kream> :)
[07:53] <linux-noob> humm well what do you do is you have a fujitsu P1110 that has a USB cdrome that will not boot the CD ??
[07:53] <adriyel> kevogod, Yggdrasil? thats old isn't it?
[07:53] <Kream> very old
[07:53] <kevogod> It was a joke.
[07:53] <Kream> slackware vintage
[07:53] <Kream> ah
[07:53] <adriyel> sigh, old fogie.
[07:53] <adriyel> slackware IS vintage :P
[07:53] <adriyel> only distro that doesn't recognize my network
[07:53] <adriyel> aight guys, I g2g, I'll ttyl
[07:53] <lsald> hey now, if they had a slack ppc i'd be all over it
[07:54] <adriyel> nightie
[07:54] <adriyel> lsald, I think they do man
[07:54] <bored2k> does anybody know how to compile CVS Mplayers with a built-in Skin ?
[07:55] <Valen> i'm trying to get ubuntu to install to a hdd on an initio a100u2w scsi card anybody know where i could a) find a module for it and b) some how to or something for how to load it and use it?
[07:55] <Valen> 5.10 btw
[07:55] <treitter> is there anywhere to look up how each package was compiled?
[07:57] <crimsun> treitter: apt-get source <package> && more package-version/debian/rules
[08:00] <ubuntu> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[08:01] <slyjab> i just installed kubuntu ... when i log off my yahoo sound file start playing until the system shuts down....any ideas??????/
[08:02] <[Chameleon] > slyjab: check the sound events config
[08:02] <YokoZar> How do I change the ports bittorrent uses?
[08:03] <slyjab> chameleon: where do i find it?
[08:03] <linux-noob> IS there a way to install ubunto without a cd ??????????
[08:03] <Parisi> Yes.
[08:03] <[Chameleon] > slyjab: somewhere in the KDE configuration app I assume... I don't know exactly, I use GNOME.
[08:03] <linux-noob> HOW ?
[08:03] <Parisi> Plenty of ways.
[08:03] <linux-noob> PLease let me know HOW
[08:03] <NoUse> linux-noob I think you need more question marks
[08:04] <Parisi> You could do a network install.
[08:04] <linux-noob> yah i am loking fora network install
[08:04] <Parisi> You could do a install from within another distro.
[08:04] <treitter> crimsun: that gives me:
[08:04] <treitter> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[08:04] <Parisi> linux-noob Try googling it, check at ubuntu site as well.
[08:05] <crimsun> treitter: you must not have the deb-src line for main enabled
[08:05] <treitter> crimsun: it's in there :)
[08:05] <treitter> tried both the local mirror and that official repo
[08:06] <crimsun> treitter: /join #flood, paste the output of apt-cache madison <package>
[08:06] <Mark> what video player plugin for firefox do people use?
[08:06] <Toma-> Mark: the mplayer one
[08:08] <linux-noob> Parisi: umm i have googled it like crazy
[08:08] <treitter> crimsun: same error
[08:08] <Mark> toma: mozplugger or mozilla-mplayer?
[08:08] <linux-noob> Parisi and looked on the page
[08:08] <Toma-> mozilla-mplayer
[08:09] <Parisi> linux-noob I would try a different distro for that type of install, mandrake ?
[08:09] <kevogod> Gentoo
[08:09] <kevogod> heh
[08:09] <Parisi> linux-noob Why no cd? I dont think ubuntu is nocd friendly
[08:09] <linux-noob> Parisi I hade mandrake but it did not like the screen
[08:10] <Parisi> linux-noob Why cant you install from a cd?
[08:10] <Parisi> cdroms are cheap $10
[08:10] <crimsun> treitter: paste precisely what you typed in and what was returned
[08:10] <linux-noob> Parisi: every time i moved the mouse is made little black boxis of pixels on the screen
[08:10] <Parisi> linux-noob That does not say much really.
[08:11] <treitter> crimsun: $ apt-get source libvte4
[08:11] <Parisi> linux-noob You might just had bad luck.
[08:11] <linux-noob> Parisi:Humm well i am a noob at this
[08:11] <treitter> crimsun: (for the first error)
[08:11] <Parisi> linux-noob Get a cdrom and a cd and boot from it.
[08:11] <treitter> crimsun: apt-cache madison libvte4 -> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[08:11] <kevogod> linux-noob, Ubuntu's installer requires the use of a keyboard. Do you have a keyboard?
[08:12] <linux-noob> Parisi: I would But i have a Fujitse P110 laptop and it does not have a cdron slot because it is to small
[08:12] <Parisi> linux-noob If thats not an option you could try booting debian from floppies and then upgrade to Ubuntu from there, but its soooo much work, is it really worh it ?
[08:12] <linux-noob> Parisi : it is only 2.2 LBS
[08:12] <mllr> sudo apt-get install mplayer-amd64  "mplayer-amd64 is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded." What's the deal?
[08:12] <kevogod> They do make external CD-Roms
[08:12] <Parisi> linux-noob Then use any device that you can boot from.
[08:13] <Parisi> linux-noob a external cdrom works
[08:13] <crimsun> treitter: if you have the deb-src line enabled, you wouldn't get that error.
[08:13] <linux-noob> Parisi; and i bought a USB cdr and it does not soport is when ther is no OS
[08:13] <kevogod> linux-noob, Check your BIOS settings
[08:13] <Parisi> linux-noob Hmm, i see, thats tricky configuration
[08:14] <Parisi> How did you get mandrake to work?
[08:14] <linux-noob> Parisi ; YAH I DID AND THEY ARE SET ON TO BOOT FROME USB, my usb flopy boots just fime
[08:14] <mojo> Hey, anyone good with the umask stuff?  I want to mount a couple vfat shares, and want users in a group to have read/write to one and read-only to the other.
[08:14] <treitter> crimsun: I've got "deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[08:14] <treitter> " in my sources.list
[08:14] <Parisi> I usually stick with the default software and OS for those, not worth my time.
[08:14] <Parisi> I would get an apple if i went mobile for that same reason.
[08:15] <linux-noob> Parisi ; Well if i hade the money i would
[08:15] <Parisi> linux-noob Sell it.
[08:15] <Parisi> ; )
[08:15] <kevogod> linux-noob, You should have directed your CAPS frenzy at me instead of Parisi.
[08:15] <Parisi> Hah
[08:16] <linux-noob> my bad
[08:16] <Parisi> Its my turn to sleep now, i am pulling a double shift tomorrow, nite all.
[08:16] <crimsun> treitter: have you updated?
[08:16] <Parisi> linux-noob good luck :)
[08:16] <linux-noob> pepsi thanks
[08:16] <linux-noob> Parisi thanks
[08:16] <Madpilot> has anyone used the ATI drivers from ATI's website to get 3d in Breezy?
[08:17] <kevogod> Madpilot, Use repositories?
[08:17] <mojo> maddler: nope, just the ones from universe (or is it multiverse?)
[08:17] <treitter> crimsun: that did it. Thanks!
[08:17] <mojo> maddler: but they are the ATI ones from ATI, only packaged up for Ubuntu
[08:17] <kevogod> Madpilot, The last time I tried them from ATI's site in Hoary, it did not work very well.
[08:18] <treitter> crimsun: so the update-manager doesn't perform apt-get update on its own?
[08:18] <mojo> maddler: they are called xorg-fglrx in breezy repositories
[08:18] <kevogod> Call him Madpilot :P
[08:18] <mojo> maddler: as opposed to the xorg-ati which is the opensource ones
[08:18] <Madpilot> mojo: I've got those, and they aren't running on my 9600XT; there's a thread on the forums about using the website ones
[08:18] <Madpilot> mojo: watch your tab completion on nicknames
[08:19] <mojo> maddler: oh, okay.  I am 9800XT
[08:19] <crimsun> treitter: I use aptitude generally.
[08:19] <mojo> Madpilot: oh, so sorry!
[08:19] <mojo> maddler: sry man
[08:19] <kevogod> ...
[08:19] <Madpilot> kevogod: I've tried the repo ones, redone the configs a couple of times, and still no 3d...
[08:20] <kevogod> Madpilot, You used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and chose the fglrx driver?
[08:20] <locomorto> mojo: i thought it was xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[08:20] <kevogod> Madpilot, I do not believe fglrxconfig works.
[08:20] <mojo> locomorto: u may b right, i was going from memory
[08:21] <Madpilot> kevogod: hmmm... I don't think I've done the dpkg route yet, I'll try that before i fool around with the website drivers...
[08:21] <treitter> crimsun: synaptic also recommends an update after a certain number of days, but it hasn't prompted me in a while
[08:21] <kevogod> Madpilot, This is how I got 3D in breezy. It worked quite well.
[08:21] <kevogod> Madpilot, It was only a matter of selecting fglrx out of the driver list.
[08:21] <nalioth> treitter: that means there are no updates
[08:22] <badei> i got firestarter
[08:22] <Madpilot> kevogod: with the dpkg-reconfigure require a restart of the computer?
[08:22] <YokoZar> Hmm, running gnome-btdownload with the --minport xxx switch is breaking it
[08:22] <nalioth> Madpilot: ?
[08:22] <mojo> Madpilot: yeah, locomorto is right.  xorg-driver-fglrx.  I also have fglrx-control installed.  Both say they're in breezy repo.
[08:22] <kevogod> Madpilot, It may require restarting something.
[08:22] <nalioth> Madpilot: the only time you need to restart (and you dont HAVE to) is when you upgrade your kernel
[08:23] <Madpilot> nalioth: 3d drivers seem to be the other reason... :(
[08:23] <nalioth> Madpilot: when you change your video options, you just need to restart x
[08:23] <badei> I don't know how to share my dial up connection. I already got firestarter!!! pls help me
[08:23] <mojo> kevogod: can't he ctrl-alt-bs after logging out to gdm login?
[08:23] <kevogod> Restarting X is just as bad as restarting your computer. :P
[08:23] <speedlab> hi ppl
[08:23] <[Chameleon] > kevogod: no it's not
[08:23] <mojo> lol
[08:23] <nalioth> kevogod: not if you use screen and terminals
[08:23] <[Chameleon] > kevogod: X loads fast enough
[08:23] <kevogod> User applications close
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > kevogod: oh well
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > kevogod: save work
[08:24] <speedlab> Whats the best way to test if a apt upgrade from hoary to breezy worked?
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > kevogod: use the SessionSaver Firefox Extension
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: use it
[08:24] <kevogod> [Chameleon] , I don't use Firefox
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: try booting
[08:24] <speedlab> I do have a diff background and what not now.. And things seem ok..
[08:24] <mojo> bob2: if u r still here, i got that freenx stuff working great.  you were a huge help earler
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > kevogod: what do you use?
[08:25] <kevogod> [Chameleon] , Epiphany... although that already saves sessions.
[08:25] <[Chameleon] > kevogod: ah, nice
[08:25] <[Chameleon] > I haven't used epiphany since Red Hat 8
[08:25] <speedlab> [Chameleon] , what about some form of cli verification?
[08:25] <kevogod> [Chameleon] , You should try it again. It is pretty nice and has some extensions.
[08:25] <trans_err> has any had any luck with getting quake4 to work?
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: dude, sounds to me like it works.
[08:26] <kevogod> Although I am not one to obsess over extensions such as AdBlock and the like.
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: how 'bout `uname -a`
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > he
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > hehe
[08:26] <speedlab> [Chameleon] , we that was just too easy then
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: nice when stuff just works, eh?
[08:26] <speedlab> 2.6.10-5 sound like the latest?
[08:27] <el-stupido> where do i look for logs for my game?
[08:27] <crimsun> 2.6.10-5 is Hoary's
[08:27] <[Chameleon] > 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8
[08:27] <speedlab> hmm
[08:27] <crimsun> 2.6.12-9 is Breezy's
[08:27] <speedlab> thought as much
[08:28] <speedlab> perhaps grub just needs updating
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: check on grub
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: yeah
[08:28] <locomorto> yeah what happend to the boot thingy in breezy?
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > locomorto: dunno... I know it had a couple bugs, probably was pulled at the last minute
[08:28] <crimsun> "boot thing"?
[08:30] <speedlab> [Chameleon] , there is nothing new in grub, shouldnt that have been updated when the new kernel was installed?
[08:30] <speedlab> dunno if I should do it manually
[08:31] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: do you have new kernels in /boot ?
[08:31] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: maybe they weren't installed...
[08:31] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: you can just install them now
[08:31] <Madpilot> what's the command to kill and restart X again?
[08:32] <[Chameleon] > Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[08:32] <speedlab> looks like it buggered it up.. no new kernels and only half he packages have been updates
[08:32] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: hmm... sucky
[08:32] <Madpilot> [Chameleon] : thanks... back in a bit, hopefully with 3d!
[08:32] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: I heard of that happening
[08:32] <speedlab> ill just grab the iso and go from scratch.. nothing important on this box anyway..
[08:34] <speedlab> ill be back.. next time hopefully in breezy ;)
[08:34] <Madpilot> damn, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-whatever didn't work, I'm still stuck with the Mesa drivers... bleh
[08:35] <iceman64> ok, help please, cant seem to get the full KDE packages to download
[08:37] <treitter> crimsun: the debian/rules file seems to specify a few configure-time options, but what about compiler flags? Are those just unrecoverable?
[08:38] <zyzzyr> wow, packed channel
[08:39] <iceman64> help on install kde please
[08:40] <synthetic_fenix> anyone got proftpd running as an anonymous server?
[08:40] <iceman64> i need help installing kde and xmms on breezy ... please
[08:40] <cychem1> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:41] <daloydoy> do u entertain newbies here?
[08:41] <daloydoy_> do u entertain newbies here?
[08:41] <iceman64> i did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop seem there are packages missing
[08:41] <cychem1> get a drink and a sandwich it will take awhile
[08:41] <cychem1> which ones
[08:41] <iceman64> where can i paste to you
[08:42] <sorsis> where i can see TODO for ubuntu so i could help with ubuntu?
[08:42] <daloydoy_> how can i install skype??? there are dependency problems when i install
[08:42] <synthetic_fenix> anyone wanna help me with setting up an anonymous ftp server?
[08:42] <daloydoy_> dpkg -i skype.....
[08:42] <daloydoy_> any help please
[08:43] <cevizoglu> daloydoy, yeah, we entertain newbies... with chatter
[08:43] <slyjab> daloyboy: what are the dependency probs?
[08:44] <daloydoy_> kype depends on libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1); however:
[08:44] <daloydoy_>   Package libstdc++5 is not installed.
[08:45] <slyjab> download that file from the universe
[08:45] <daloydoy_> how will i do that? do i have to add the url in my apt source-list?
[08:45] <slyjab> go to root
[08:46] <slyjab> type in apt-get install <filename>
[08:46] <synthetic_fenix> anyone running an FTP server under ubuntu?
[08:47] <iceman64> can i apt -get two thing at one time
[08:47] <daloydoy> slylab: have done that to no avail... anything more missing?
[08:47] <cychem1> iceman just send me text file
[08:47] <zyzzyr> dalydoy: there are instructions for skype installation in the first post here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75107&highlight=skype
[08:47] <svijaykr> Hi. I have a problem with closing the lid on the laptop. The screen just blanks.
[08:47] <PuppetMaster> hi everybody
[08:48] <zyzzyr> dalydoy: will tell you what other packages you need to install, too
[08:48] <PuppetMaster> i want to know hot to install the w32codecs for mplayer? :) Could anyone help me?!
[08:48] <svijaykr> Any idea what I need to do ? I am using the vesa driver
[08:48] <slyjab> apt commands are here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[08:48] <iceman64> cycheml it's downloading the kubuntu-desktop packages again .. let me see what come up
[08:48] <daloydoy> zyzzyr: thank you... one thing more... what about my totem? can't play videos... have install totem-xine before in ubuntu and its working... now in breezy no more
[08:48] <zyzzyr> dalydoy: also here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77189
[08:48] <cychem1> ok
[08:48] <iceman64> 60% done
[08:49] <zyzzyr> dalydoy: what kinds of movies?
[08:49] <slyjab> iceman yes you can get more than one file from apt... just leave a space between filenames
[08:49] <zyzzyr> daloydoy that is even ;)
[08:49] <iceman64> cycheml can i run multi sessions of apt-get one for kde and another for xmms
[08:49] <daloydoy> zyzzyr: avi, mpg
[08:49] <cychem1> yes just use different terminals
[08:50] <iceman64> ty ..
[08:50] <zyzzyr> daloydoy you need to install the right codecs, such as the "w32codecs" package
[08:51] <PuppetMaster> zyzzyr, how can i install the w32codecs package?
[08:51] <gilbert_> how to install yahoo messenger in ubuntu
[08:51] <zyzzyr> daloydoy: have you read the ubuntu 5.10 starter guide in the System->Help?  I think (but I'm not sure) that that question is answered there
[08:51] <gilbert_> i used dpkg -i *.deb
[08:51] <gilbert_> but hav dependencies
[08:51] <Chameleon22> hi all
[08:52] <Chameleon22> i am configuring nagios and noticed that when I break something ... eg status critical , alert mail/sms send mail messages get frozen in the mail queue. So for example message comes in ... 9m  1.5K 1ETD4E-0005i0-1v <from@email.com>   but after a while from email address gets deleted and message frozen:  1ETD4E-0005i0-1v <> *** frozen ***  and ideas why this is happening?
[08:52] <slyjab> gilbert: you have to get the dependencies from universe
[08:52] <zyzzyr> PuppetMaster: If you have your repositories configured correctly, I believe it's simply "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" - I believe it's in multiverse (?)
[08:52] <daloydoy> yes... haven't scanned the thread yet this is very new installation... about a few mins ago
[08:53] <shane86> anyone know the basic text editor in kubuntu?
[08:53] <spritey> hi@all
[08:53] <slyjab> yahoos linux version isn't worth using....its too primitive
[08:53] <gilbert_> slyjab dependencies
[08:53] <cevizoglu> zyzzyr, no, w32codecs aren't in multiverse or universe
[08:53] <zyzzyr> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs should answer the w32codecs q - although that guide pertains to hoary, it is still (mostly) true for breezy
[08:53] <[Chameleon] > shane86: probably kate
[08:53] <yi_> hey, can you get a full shell from the breezy install cd?
[08:53] <PuppetMaster> zyzzyr, i use breezy now... can you tell me witch is the corret line for multiserve??? ... i idid apt-get install w32.... but didnt work :s
[08:53] <yi_> i need to chroot and run grub-install
[08:54] <[Chameleon] > yi_: try Ctrl-Alt-Fn where n = 1-12
[08:54] <gilbert_> depends: libgdk-pixbuf2
[08:54] <[Chameleon] > yi_: one of them should be a shell
[08:54] <cevizoglu> PuppetMaster, go to the codecs link for the w32 repository
[08:54] <synthetic_fenix> HELP ME PLEASE!
[08:54] <zyzzyr> cevizoglu: huh i can't recall where i got them from.  possibly I downloaded them from the hoary repositories somewhere
[08:54] <shane86> [Chameleon] : i can't seem to get kate to work with xorg.conf - it doesn't want to let me run from konsole - even as root
[08:54] <spritey> i made a inet-dist-upgrade to breezy. this destroy somehow my gdm. i'm not able to insert my password. as soon as i try this gdm is dead ...
[08:54] <shane86> [Chameleon] : so i was wondering if there was something else
[08:54] <spritey> anyone a idea
[08:54] <yi_> [Chameleon] : it gives me a busybox shell
[08:55] <[Chameleon] > shane86: just use vi
[08:55] <yi_> which i don't think is enough
[08:55] <cevizoglu> zyzzyr, here is one: deb http://tinyurl.com/87ofx etch main
[08:55] <[Chameleon] > yi_: hmm, I dunno then.
[08:55] <yi_> the livecd
[08:55] <yi_> should let me chroot no?
[08:55] <[Chameleon] > yi_: possibly
[08:55] <iceman64> 81 %
[08:55] <cevizoglu> yi_ yes
[08:55] <Mark> is anyone able to watch the latest quicktime stuff off of apple's website?
[08:55] <PuppetMaster> cevizoglu, you say to write the line in source.list?? (sorry i use linux since a few days)
[08:55] <shane86> [Chameleon] : how do i save changes with vi?
[08:55] <iceman64> whats still not workning in 64 bit ...
[08:55] <cevizoglu> Mark, no
[08:55] <daloydoy> zyzzyr: what particular repositories will i add in the stock config of apt-source-list in breezy?
[08:56] <zyzzyr> this could also work, though it's using dpkg directly and not apt: 'wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb'
[08:56] <zyzzyr> ..and..
[08:56] <zyzzyr> 'sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb'
[08:56] <synthetic_fenix> anyone wanna help me with my ftp server problem before i check myself into a mental institution
[08:56] <cevizoglu> PuppetMaster, yes, add it to sources.list... but comment it out when you're done... you don't want etch to stay in there
[08:56] <symsy> Shadowline- :qw for quitting and exit
[08:56] <cychem1> shane86 :wq!
[08:56] <shane86> thanks
[08:56] <[Chameleon] > shane86: escape, :x
[08:56] <cevizoglu> synthetic_fenix, no one can help you because you never gave a clear description of your problem
[08:56] <PuppetMaster> cevizoglu, ok
[08:57] <PuppetMaster> zyzzyr, thanx
[08:57] <synthetic_fenix> ok
[08:57] <[Chameleon] > shane86: :x  ==  :wq
[08:57] <nalioth> cevizoglu: look again, the wiki has changed
[08:57] <synthetic_fenix> im trying to setup an anonymous ftp server
[08:57] <iceman64> you still have to go in a back step 64 bit to run flash
[08:57] <zyzzyr> daloydoy: Using synaptic you can configure your repositories ... choose "show hidden", then enable the hidden ones - then you could edit the file too to include multiverse from the same place you get universe (if it's not included as hidden, can't recall)
[08:57] <iceman64> or has flash been patched yet
[08:57] <Mark> I can get vlc to play the latest quicktime movies, but the firefox vlc plugin doesn't load the file
[08:57] <dmlinux> is there any Video card power managment in linux? like POWERPLAY like in Winblowz
[08:57] <synthetic_fenix> when i goto try and access it from another computer in my local lan (No firewall in the way) it comes up and asks for username and password
[08:58] <synthetic_fenix> i select in IE to login anonymously and put in my e-mail address
[08:58] <spritey> noone with the same problem?
[08:58] <svijaykr> any help for my laptop lid suspend problem ?
[08:58] <synthetic_fenix> the logon prompt pops right back up, i even used smart ftp and it give me error 550
[08:58] <iceman64> Cool cool ... got the sessions manager and the kde packages it looks like
[08:58] <dmlinux> synthetic_fenix i had the same problem, i beleive to fix it use YOUR Username and YOUR password, for linux
[08:59] <iceman64> was there a broken link a few days ago for kde
[08:59] <cychem1> ????
[08:59] <synthetic_fenix> dmlinux, that negates the purpose of anonymous ftp
[08:59] <cevizoglu> PuppetMaster, ugh, don't use etch... go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats and read the part on w32codecs
[08:59] <dmlinux> synthetic_fenix oh i must of missed half of the convo :( sorry
[08:59] <synthetic_fenix> its ok
[09:00] <iceman64> cycheml tried to get kde several days ago and it missed some packages .. today .. went right in ..
[09:00] <nalioth> cevizoglu: the wiki no longer has 'include debian repos' in it for w32codecs
[09:00] <cevizoglu> nalioth, yes, I just saw that
[09:00] <iceman64> cool now to get xmms
[09:00] <PuppetMaster> cevizoglu, thanx!!
[09:00] <dmlinux> later all
[09:00] <svijaykr> actually I have a problem with audio as well - intel 915 on board audio. lsmod shows the module loaded. esd is running ..but no sound comes out
[09:00] <Bieleke> hi guys
[09:00] <cychem1> Great its probably the government spying on you :)
[09:00] <Bieleke> question...
[09:00] <zyzzyr> cevizoglu: that's a good link ;)
[09:01] <[Chameleon] > cychem1: LOL
[09:01] <Bieleke> oooqs-gnome, not available ?
[09:01] <[Chameleon] > svijaykr: killall esd and try again
[09:01] <[Chameleon] > svijaykr: what app are you trying to use?
[09:01] <Myrtti> cychem1: nothing new there
[09:01] <iceman64> god my system hates winblows .... works fine under linux ... must say something about linux ...
[09:01] <gilbert_> my g++ 4.3.3.5-1 its broken and its mark by red how can i repair it?
[09:01] <gilbert_> my g++ 4.3.3.5-1 its broken and its mark by red how can i repair it?
[09:01] <Chameleon22> i am configuring nagios and noticed that when I break something ... eg status critical , alert mail/sms send mail messages get frozen in the mail queue. So for example message comes in ... 9m  1.5K 1ETD4E-0005i0-1v <from@email.com>   but after a while from email address gets deleted and message frozen:  1ETD4E-0005i0-1v <> *** frozen ***  and ideas why this is happening?
[09:01] <synthetic_fenix> im tring to setup and anonymous ftp server, when i goto try and access it from another computer in my local lan (no firewall in the way) it comes up and askes for a username and password, i select in IE to login anonymously and put in my e-mail address, then logon prompt pops right back up, and i even tried with smartftp and it gives me error 550 anyone got any ideas?
[09:01] <gilbert_> also g++3.3
[09:01] <gilbert_> my g++ 4.3.3.5-1 its broken and its mark by red how can i repair it?
[09:02] <gilbert_> my g++ 4.3.3.5-1 its broken and its mark by red how can i repair it?
[09:02] <iceman64> well now time to see if i can start kde
[09:02] <cychem1> Just because you don't think there are out to get you doesnt mean they are not
[09:02] <svijaykr> [Chameleon] : The multimedia preferences > test sound
[09:02] <Myrtti> cychem1: http://www.eff.org/Privacy/printers/list.php
[09:02] <[Chameleon] > svijaykr: yeah, try killing esd
[09:02] <cychem1> Myrtti I'm well aware
[09:03] <iceman64> awsome
[09:03] <zyzzyr> I managed to convince the office to roll out Ubuntu to about a dozen workstations ;)
[09:03] <[Chameleon] > zyzzyr: kewl
[09:04] <synthetic_fenix> uhg :(
[09:04] <gilbert_> my g++ 4.3.3.5-1 its broken and its mark by red how can i repair it?
[09:04] <svijaykr> [Chameleon] ,  restarted it - no avail
[09:04] <gilbert_> also g++3.3
[09:04] <gilbert_> my g++ 4.3.3.5-1 its broken and its mark by red how can i repair it?
[09:04] <[Chameleon] > gilbert_: stop it already
[09:04] <aftertaf> nice one zyzzyr
[09:04] <[Chameleon] > gilbert_: either no one knows or no one cares
[09:04] <cychem1> ck this http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pspoole/echelon.html
[09:04] <svijaykr> [Chameleon] ,  esd doesn't show any output either on the terminal .. no errors ..nothing
[09:04] <[Chameleon] > svijaykr: `killall esd`
[09:05] <[Chameleon] > svijaykr: then try the test
[09:05] <cevizoglu> gilbert_, or no one knows what you mean by "it's marked by red"
[09:05] <nalioth> gilbert_: repeating rarely brings people rushing in to answer you, but it is irritating
[09:05] <[Chameleon] > cevizoglu: probably in synaptic
[09:05] <gilbert_> from synaptic
[09:05] <iceman64> ok where in the file system is xmms .. i need to point shout cast to it
[09:05] <Agrajag> /usr/bin/xmms
[09:05] <gilbert_> when i check my synaptic
[09:05] <[Chameleon] > gilbert_: did you try right-clicking it and selecting "Reinstall"?
[09:05] <nalioth> gilbert_: do you have any non ubuntu repos in your sources.list?
[09:05] <iceman64> ty
[09:05] <Agrajag> that's where almost every program is
[09:05] <gilbert_> no disabled
[09:05] <gilbert_> only
[09:05] <gilbert_> mark for removal
[09:05] <synthetic_fenix> im tring to setup and anonymous ftp server with proftpd, when i goto try and access it from another computer in my local lan (no firewall in the way) it comes up and askes for a username and password, i select in IE to login anonymously and put in my e-mail address, then logon prompt pops right back up, and i even tried with smartftp and it gives me error 550 anyone got any ideas?
[09:06] <gilbert_> and complete mark 4 removal
[09:06] <gilbert_> any ideas
[09:06] <svijaykr> [Chameleon] , what do I use as my source and sink then ?
[09:06] <iceman64> ok.. xmms froze .. whats kill command
[09:06] <Kream> synthetic_fenix:  try in #proftpd
[09:06] <PuppetMaster> it's working thanx to everyone! :)
[09:07] <Kream> synthetic_fenix:  you should get some help there
[09:07] <synthetic_fenix> Kream: on this server?
[09:07] <iceman64> from a term... how to kill kmms
[09:07] <Bieleke> iceman64, just kill, or click close, there will a dialog popup if you want to force close
[09:08] <Bieleke> just sudo kill <processnumber>
[09:08] <[Chameleon] > svijaykr: ALSA
[09:08] <Kream> synthetic_fenix:  for free, too :)
[09:08] <iceman64> bieleke clicked .. its froze ... need to kil in a terminal
[09:08] <synthetic_fenix> Kream: thanx
[09:08] <Kream> synthetic_fenix:  share and enjoy
[09:09] <Bieleke> look with gnome processes which is the process number
[09:09] <Bieleke> then use sudo kill <procnr> on console
[09:09] <Mattias> when i install ubuntu and its all done, and atlast when i try to log in, in the gdm, the whole system freezes after around 10 seconds, i got a ATI Radeon x600 Pro card, i really need help to fix this
[09:09] <iceman64> in kde ?
[09:09] <Bieleke> erm... kde :-) use kde process explorer
[09:09] <svijaykr> [Chameleon] ,  no sound even now :(
[09:09] <Bieleke> then kill on console :-)
[09:10] <Agrajag> iceman64: ps aux|grep xmms|grep -i grep|awk '{print $2}'|xargs kill -9
[09:10] <Agrajag> run that and xmms will die
[09:10] <[Chameleon] > Agrajag: wouldn't `killall -9 xmms` work?
[09:11] <Mattias> someone who can help me?
[09:11] <Agrajag> oh sure if you want to do it the lazy way
[09:11] <[Chameleon] > Agrajag: hahaha
[09:11] <Mattias> i had the same problem in gentoo once, but i solved it somehow then in the kernel with something, but i can't remember how :/
[09:11] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: did you install the fglrx binary driver?
[09:12] <Mattias> Chameleon, the thing is, i can't do anything, ubuntu auto installs, and when its all done, it freezes in gdm, so i can't even log into the comp and change anything
[09:12] <iceman64> killed it .. thanks you
[09:13] <nalioth> Mattias: did you check your md5sums?
[09:13] <indypende> hi all!
[09:13] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: append " s" to the boot line by pressing "a" in the boot menu.
[09:13] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: then, when you get to the console, use dselect to [un] install stuff
[09:13] <iceman64> ok.. i try to play shoutcast linked to xmms.. every time i open a station xmms freezes up ...
[09:13] <Mattias> nalioth, everything is correct on the cd, i know its a kernel problem, as i fixed this in gentoo too, but how do i change the kernel in ubuntu?
[09:13] <indypende> how can i modify the gtk-based app's FONTS?
[09:14] <Severian> !RestrictedFormats
[09:14] <ubotu> well, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[09:14] <[Chameleon] > iceman64: try Rhythmbox
[09:14] <iceman64> k
[09:14] <Mattias> Chameleol ill try that, how do i install a new kernel in ubuntu?
[09:15] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: use dselect. It'll explain itself to you
[09:15] <iceman64> oh rythembox is for gnome .. i use kde
[09:16] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: here's a tip tho, when you're in the Install screen, after you dismiss the help, press "/" and type something to search by name.
[09:16] <wolden> why am I getting these annoying "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:16] <wolden>   realplayer: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not going to be installed
[09:16] <wolden> "  -- is it because of bad repositories?
[09:16] <Mattias> Chameleon, kk :) ill try fix this now, thx for the help
[09:16] <Bieleke> iceman64, what is the advantage of using kde ?
[09:16] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: aye
[09:17] <iceman64> bieleke guess it's what i am used to ... never have been keen to gnome .. personal preference ..
[09:17] <[Chameleon] > wolden: you need to add some repositories, yes. The repos you are using are not necessarily bad tho.
[09:17] <svijaykr> [Chameleon] ,  any idea what I should do next ?
[09:18] <iceman64> had this working all great in last release of ubuntu
[09:18] <nalioth> Bieleke: personal preference
[09:18] <wolden> Chameleon, but I just addes the ones from that .nl site, and still! and it sucks cause it doesnt let me install anything else until i fix that
[09:18] <Bieleke> iceman64, ah ic... cause i used kde for years, but now i'm sold to gnome
[09:18] <[Chameleon] > svijaykr: no
[09:19] <iceman64> bieleke ... guess i just have never really took to navigating in gnome .. is still get lost looking for terminal ...
[09:19] <svijaykr> [Chameleon] , okay ..thanks
[09:19] <iceman64> i know where it all is right away in kde ..
[09:20] <iceman64> has to be a issue with xmms and shoutcast ... ?
[09:20] <crimsun> treitter: if you don't see any additional CFLAGS and/or CXXFLAGS, then they're not set
[09:20] <azertyuuu> hey all, what's the difference between Nvidia Driver and nvidia LEGACY driver ? Both start at boot, can i diable 1 of them ?
[09:20] <indypende> how can i modify the gtk-based app's FONTS?
[09:21] <[Chameleon] > indypende: how 'bout the Fonts preference app?
[09:22] <sn0n> hey guys..
[09:22] <sn0n> quick silly Q, firefox likes to let totem crash it.. when there is embed or objects for media files.. how can i just kill that?
[09:22] <jtth> is there a specific ubuntu powerpc room?
[09:22] <tritium> no, jtth.  This is the place to be
[09:22] <indypende> [Chameleon] , no, about the fonts of apps based on gtk (like xmms and others)
[09:22] <sn0n> ubuntu-ppc ?
[09:23] <sn0n> (just a guess)
[09:23] <indypende> [Chameleon] , The fonts are noised
[09:23] <iceman64> How to get xmms to play shoutcast ... anyone
[09:23] <jtth> Ok. Then perhaps this can be answered: If I want to resize (decrease) the size of my HFS+ partition of OS X (so I can install ubuntu) how would I go about doing that without losing data?
[09:23] <azertyuuu> can i diable HP linux imaging and printing system ?
[09:24] <azertyuuu> i have no printer or no other Hp-device
[09:24] <[Chameleon] > indypende: xmms is not based on gtk in that way
[09:24] <indypende> mh?
[09:24] <[Chameleon] > indypende: try Beep Media Player. probably listed as "bmp" in apt
[09:24] <iceman64> ok .. no sound in kde .. ?
[09:24] <[Chameleon] > indypende: I think that xmms has a font config in it's preferences.
[09:24] <[Chameleon] > iceman64: KDE is teh suck
[09:25] <Hhhhh> I like KDE
[09:25] <indypende> [Chameleon] , the problem is not my media player, but the GTK theme (specially the fonts)
[09:25] <iceman64> xmms is running now .. but no sound in kde ..
[09:25] <mojo> I am trying to set up a vfat partition for read-write access to members of the "share" group that I made, but am having problems.  In fstab I added gid=share and umask=002 which makes it all LOOK right once mounted.  But as a user who is in the share group, I get no permission to write.  What gives?
[09:25] <[Chameleon] > indypende: I think that xmms has a font config in it's preferences.
[09:25] <crimsun> [Chameleon] : redirect them to #kubuntu if necessary, but let us keep the distro wars out, 'k? Thanks.
[09:25] <iceman64> hay .. rework my gnome where it is friendly to me like kde .. ill switch
[09:25] <indypende> [Chameleon] , xmms it's only an example...
[09:26] <Hhhhh> crimsun, it was a WM war, not distro
[09:26] <Hhhhh> but still you're right
[09:26] <iceman64> let me see what happend in gnome
[09:26] <azertyuuu> i'm using kubuntu and downloading the Edubuntu-desktop, is it nice to work with ?
[09:27] <jtth> what is the edubuntu desktop?
[09:27] <xukun> ist possible to install extra software while usig the live cd?
[09:27] <alekz> anyone can recommend me a inklevel meter ?
[09:27] <[Chameleon] > alekz: http://gmso.linux-sevenler.org/screenshot.php?lang=en
[09:28] <mojo> jtth: pardon if i'm mistaken, but i think edubuntu-desktop is the package name for the meta-package that depends on all the edubuntu component applications.
[09:28] <alekz> let me check [Chameleon]  thanks
[09:28] <iceman64> got to be a issue in kde .. works fine in gnome
[09:28] <jtth> cool.
[09:28] <Pickle_Weasel> is there something similar to alt-tab that will let me switch out of full screen programs, a package perhaps?
[09:28] <[Chameleon] > azertyuuu, jtth: it's an LTSP specialized thing.
[09:28] <iceman64> how to change icon sizes in gnome the huge icons suck
[09:28] <[Chameleon] > iceman64: try a higher resolution
[09:28] <[Chameleon] > :)
[09:28] <azertyuuu> it downloads all the edubuntu-packages to work with in kubuntu
[09:29] <jtth> so does anyone know how to safely resize an HFS+ partition?
[09:29] <iceman64> wheres that configured from in gnome .. here i am lost ..
[09:29] <iceman64> ;(
[09:29] <mojo> jtth: not to be trite but the only safe way is to make a backup first
[09:29] <jtth> mojo: i have done that
[09:29] <mojo> jtth: cool beans then
[09:29] <gilbert_> wer i can download libssl0.9.6
[09:30] <nicholaspaul> yea i'm back. .. ;0
[09:30] <nicholaspaul> Id love to be able to edit my xfce menu. Anyone know where theres a text file or something i can edit?
[09:30] <[Chameleon] > iceman64: System / Preferences / Screen Resolution
[09:30] <alekz> [Chameleon] , E: Couldn't find package gmso :(
[09:31] <[Chameleon] > alekz: of course not. go build it
[09:31] <iceman64> 1024/768 already .. and got huge ugly icons
[09:31] <Pickle_Weasel> does anyone know of any option that will let me Alt-Tab out of full screen apps, or something similar?
[09:31] <alekz> [Chameleon] , recommended to build it from source ?
[09:31] <iceman64> cant go any higher ..
[09:31] <[Chameleon] > alekz: yes
[09:31] <alekz> ok thanks [Chameleon] 
[09:31] <[Chameleon] > aye
[09:31] <Bieleke> iceman64, does xmms works in gnome ?
[09:31] <azertyuuu> how can i change the menu-style, menu editor is not what i'm looking for, it's somthing else
[09:32] <iceman64> bieleke yep .. point click .. and listeng to radion as i type
[09:32] <nicholaspaul> iceman64, yes it does
[09:32] <iceman64> now shring these ugly icons
[09:33] <azertyuuu> how can i change the menu-style, menu editor is not what i'm looking for, it's somthing else
[09:33] <lsald> has anyone (ppc users only) sucessfully install java
[09:33] <iceman64> sghrink the ugly icons .. there must be a way
[09:33] <nicholaspaul> lsald i'm a ppc user, but i havent checked java.
[09:34] <nicholaspaul> - and no i dont have it installed!
[09:34] <iceman64> is there a icon size manager in gnome ... kde i can set the size .. ;(
[09:36] <nalioth> alekz: remember to use "checkinstall" instead of "make install"
[09:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell alekz about checkinstall
[09:36] <httpdss> im using XFce and GDM, when i want shutdown from Xfce it ask me for password ... what can i do to disable passwrd request one shutdown ... i think it has to do with the sudoers file but i dont know what to put in it
[09:36] <ztonzy> morning (here it is)
[09:36] <alekz> thanks nalioth let me check
[09:36] <iceman64> that is why i cant stand gnome ... cant configure it like i have kde ...
[09:36] <ztonzy> anyone else that doesn't get totem-mozilla-plugin to work ?
[09:36] <ztonzy> Mattias, godmorgon ;)
[09:37] <Mattias> Chameleon it didnt work :/
[09:37] <Mattias> ztonzy, morning :)
[09:37] <aftertaf> iceman64, my feelings too ..
[09:37] <ztonzy> Mattias, I am cloaked, but I could see your ghost
[09:37] <ztonzy> Mattias, skne here :P
[09:37] <iceman64> aftertaf but i cant get xmms and shoutcast to plat togather in kde
[09:37] <iceman64> play
[09:38] <Mattias> ztonzy, hehe :D u don't happen to know how to make ATI drivers not freeze with ubuntu?
[09:38] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: sucky
[09:38] <Mattias> i just looked up the forums. im not alone
[09:38] <ztonzy> Mattias, hmm...hoary or breezy?
[09:38] <aftertaf> iceman64, erf :/ nvidia driver at all?
[09:38] <Mattias> ztonzy, breezy badger
[09:38] <ztonzy> Mattias, I did install ATI for my brothers hoary...not breezy
[09:38] <ztonzy> Mattias, dont know....I use nvidia myself
[09:38] <spine55> Mattias, I figured it out
[09:38] <Mattias> ztonzy, its hard for me to fix as im used to gentoo's system of doing things :P
[09:38] <Mattias> spine55, u did? :D
[09:39] <ztonzy> Mattias, there's  a helper
[09:39] <iceman64> aftertaf got the link to installing nvidia driver in breezy
[09:39] <Mattias> spine55, and i don't wanna loose direct rendering support
[09:39] <ztonzy> Mattias, ah...gentoo is more hardcore isn't it ;)
[09:39] <spine55> Mattias, ahh
[09:39] <aftertaf> if i have some spare space on my HD, can i make / bigger? or do i need a live cd for that?
[09:39] <Mattias> ztonzy, hehe :)
[09:39] <spine55> Mattias, that's the way that I fixed it
[09:39] <Mattias> spine55, did u loose dri support?
[09:39] <aftertaf> iceman64, tried vlc or beep?
[09:39] <Mattias> spine55, do fglrxinfo
[09:39] <spine55> Mattias, oh no sorry I'm just running the ati driver
[09:40] <Mattias> spine55, does it says ATI ?
[09:40] <mojo> I am trying to set up a vfat partition for read-write access to members of the "share" group that I made, but am having problems.  In fstab I added gid=share and umask=002 which makes it all LOOK right once mounted.  But as a user who is in the share group, I get no permission to write.  What gives?
[09:40] <httpdss> iceman64: said i cant get xmms and shoutcast to plat togather in kde ..... <--- check sound server
[09:40] <nicholaspaul> lsald - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78804&highlight=java+ppc
[09:40] <Mattias> spine55, well. how did u fix it then?
[09:40] <spine55> Mattias, yeah no 3d support I'm just running a server and it was locking up with the ati driver
[09:40] <iceman64> some how installing kde and xmms toasted my mozilla home page settings
[09:40] <aftertaf> mojo, check perms on the mount point
[09:40] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: you can easily add space if you've got unpartitioned space and are using LVM.
[09:40] <nicholaspaul> i'm having trouble with xfce audio. In CD Player, its really quiet.
[09:40] <spine55> Mattias, all I did was a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:40] <nicholaspaul> anyone?
[09:40] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: but, LVM isn't the default.
[09:40] <Mattias> spine55, i fixed this in gentoo once :( i just gotta remember what was the problem
[09:40] <ztonzy> spine55, there's no drivers from ATI's site that works fluently with Breezy ?
[09:41] <aftertaf> [Chameleon] , yeah... i dont think im using it... :)  can i change to it?
[09:41] <Bieleke> iceman64, which icons do you mean that are too big ?
[09:41] <spine55> Mattias, then went through the settings and unchecked the dri module
[09:41] <aftertaf> [Chameleon] , like windows volumes, right? dynamic disks and the like?
[09:41] <spine55> ztonzy, no not that I know of
[09:41] <Mattias> spine55, ye :( but i need dri for games :/
[09:41] <sn0n> quick silly Q, firefox likes to let totem crash it.. when there is embed or objects for media files.. how can i just kill that?
[09:41] <sn0n> hmm.. maybe this might work.. Downloads / File Types
[09:41] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: how much space is available and how much is actually in use on your drive? i.e. 4 GB used, 10 GB available
[09:41] <sn0n> i'll try
[09:41] <ztonzy> Mattias, where are you located ?
[09:41] <spine55> Mattias, what card do you have?
[09:42] <Mattias> ztonzy, vstmanland
[09:42] <sn0n> nope, that didnt work..
[09:42] <Mattias> spine55, ATI Radeon x600
[09:42] <sn0n> Firefox crashing with videos -  1 Week Ago     { http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73083 }
[09:42] <sn0n> joy...
[09:42] <ztonzy> spine55, I got it worked alright with hoary for my brother...worked perfect
[09:42] <iceman64> bieleke created a few on the desktop ... there huge ...
[09:42] <ztonzy> Mattias, ah Skne here
[09:42] <spine55> Mattias, well I do know that my laptop is not freezing up and its running a radeon 9600 mobile
[09:42] <Mattias> anyone know how i can modifie the kernel in ubuntu?
[09:42] <N6REJ> how do you convert form ext2 to ext3?
[09:43] <tritium> Mattias, you want to compile your own?
[09:43] <ztonzy> no one? (About Totem-Mozilla-Plugin) ?
[09:43] <spine55> Mattias, you mean install a 686 kernel?
[09:43] <pinucset> isnt oo2 in the repositories yet?
[09:43] <Mattias> tritium, ye, because this one locks up
[09:43] <Mattias> spine55, why not :)
[09:43] <Bieleke> iceman64, you can change icons
[09:43] <ztonzy> Mattias, what CPU ?
[09:43] <spine55> Mattias, one sec figured that out myself
[09:43] <Mattias> ztonzy, p4 3.4ghz
[09:43] <ztonzy> Mattias, okej
[09:43] <iceman64> bieleke how to resize them ..
[09:43] <aftertaf>  [Chameleon]  / == 9.2 GB, 4.2 gb free......   and ive got 4Gb before it doing nothing
[09:44] <Bieleke> iceman64, instead of using /usr/share/pixmaps use /usr/share/icons and select the right size
[09:44] <tritium> Mattias, install linux-source-2.6.12, kernel-package, and then read the docs in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package on how to build your own .deb kernel package
[09:44] <spine55> Mattias, sudo apt-get install linux-image-686
[09:44] <N6REJ> aftertaf: is there an easy way to upgrade from ext2 to ext3?
[09:44] <spine55> Mattias, or sudo apt-get install linux-image-k7 for amd
[09:45] <iceman64> much better .. got to do each one that way ...
[09:45] <tritium> linux-686 or linux-k7 would be preferable, since it would pull in other dependencies
[09:45] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: on the 9.2 GB, is that the total partition size or the actual size of data on the partition?
[09:45] <tritium> but those aren't source, just images
[09:45] <Mattias> tritium, that one is installed from start right? and what if i want like. nitro-sources-2.6.14_rc3-r1?
[09:46] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: if the actual data size < 4 GB, I'd make an LVM volume on that first partition, move your data, wipe the old partition and expand the LVM.
[09:46] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: `df -h` tells you actual size
[09:46] <spine55> but then you can get the headers
[09:46] <tritium> Mattias, no kernel source is installed by default.  Don't know what nitro-sources are
[09:46] <tritium> spine55, you can't compile a kernel from just headers, only modules
[09:46] <Mattias> tritium, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-388992-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html
[09:46] <spine55> tritium, ahh
[09:47] <spine55> tritium, thank you sir
[09:47] <tritium> :)
[09:47] <ztonzy> hmm seems no one has any answer in that topic :-}
[09:47] <ztonzy> :-\
[09:47] <sazwerx> can we convert .tar.gz file into .deb file?
[09:47] <aftertaf> [Chameleon] , yeah, but its root..... :/ scary...    9gb total size
[09:47] <tritium> !tell sazwerx about checkinstall
[09:48] <Mattias> spine55, sudo apt-get install linux-image-686, i don't suppose that would give me the 2.6.14 sources?
[09:48] <sazwerx> tritium, thanks
[09:48] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: you could reinstall to a newly created LVM and swap it that way.
[09:48] <spine55> Mattias, no
[09:48] <Mattias> spine55, or how do i get the newest?
[09:48] <tritium> Mattias, no, that would give you a kernel image, not source
[09:48] <HappyFool> download the 2.6.14-rc source and compile it
[09:48] <Mattias> bah, how do i get a source in ubuntu? :P
[09:48] <ztonzy> Mattias, you to install those seperately + to untar it manually
[09:48] <N6REJ> tritium: is there an easy way to convert ext2 to ext3?
[09:48] <tritium> Mattias, the latest ubuntu-patched source, available as a package, is linux-source-2.6.12
[09:48] <HappyFool> check the kernelhowto on the wiki
[09:49] <Mattias> tritium, then ill download nitro-sources and compile it myself :P ill just go with the gentoo livecd and fix it :)
[09:49] <joevandyk> Hi -- I've got a mac mini that connects to a wireless router.  I've got the mac mini also hooked up to an ethernet router.  I've got a linux computer that's hooked up to the ethernet router.  I want the linux computer to use the mac mini's internet connection.  How can I do that?
[09:49] <tritium> N6REJ, I believe so
[09:49] <N6REJ> HappyFool: good evening... I'm starting from scratch  :(
[09:49] <HappyFool> but there's not much point unless you have specific needs, or you want to do kernel development
[09:49] <HappyFool> hi N6REJ
[09:50] <tritium> Mattias, okay.  You can still use kernel-package, if you'd like to build your new kernel as a .deb
[09:50] <N6REJ> tritium: know how?  I'm having to start over... I installed the server-distro and I couldn't get it to install as ext3.
[09:50] <iceman64> KDE seems much friendlier .. i can set icon spacing ...
[09:50] <HappyFool> and, if you just want to play with kernels, you can use qemu (as i discovered this morning). No risk kernel-compilation-and-boot :)
[09:50] <N6REJ> HappyFool: I've got a strange problem... the router has the name "null" as the dhcp client for the server.
[09:50] <Mattias> tritium, i think this will be the easiest :) i will just do "emerge nitro-sources" and its done :P
[09:50] <iceman64> brb
[09:51] <nalioth> N6REJ: yes there is
[09:51] <N6REJ> <------- hates that there isn't good step-by-step how to's yet for 5.10
[09:51] <Mattias> tritium, the thing is, i am going ubuntu cus i hate to compile the stuff, it takes time with stuff like openoffice 2.0 and those
[09:51] <N6REJ> nalioth: good evening..
[09:51] <Mattias> tritium, took me 10 hours for that one :P
[09:51] <HappyFool> N6REJ: so you didn't get ext2 on your server install?
[09:51] <nalioth> N6REJ: open a terminal and type "sudo tune2fs -j /path/to/partition/to/convert"
[09:51] <HappyFool> N6REJ: err, you didn't get ext3 ?
[09:51] <spine55> yeah gentoo is nice but man it takes days to build
[09:51] <tritium> Mattias, sounds like a complete lack of fun
[09:51] <N6REJ> HappyFool: nope, just ext2
[09:52] <Mattias> tritium, openoffice is a pain to compile :) try it ;D
[09:52] <tritium> Mattias, waste of time to do so ;)
[09:52] <spine55> and hard drive
[09:52] <Mattias> tritium, well, i hope ubuntu will make my world easier :P but it seems it didnt work of the bat
[09:53] <tritium> Mattias, what didn't work?
[09:53] <unu> hello
[09:53] <Mattias> tritium, Xorg locks up
[09:53] <Mattias> tritium, i got an ati card so it says itself
[09:53] <tritium> Mattias, did you troubleshoot it?  What video chipset?
[09:53] <N6REJ> nalioth: run that by me more please... I've got /boot, /root, /swap, ... shoot I forgeet even how to check them... I'm not having a good night tonight.
[09:54] <Mattias> tritium, ATI Radeon x600? :)
[09:54] <unu> i used dd to backup my mbr, but unfortunately i got the awful idea to change the partitions after that; so now my mbr contains another hdd map than my real one - how can i make fdisk see what is really in there?
[09:54] <tritium> Mattias, did you follow the BinaryDriverHowto?
[09:54] <nalioth> N6REJ: then perhaps we should try this tomorrow
[09:54] <Mattias> tritium, im not alone http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33811518, if u fix it pls tell all the others how u did it :)
[09:55] <nalioth> N6REJ: in a terminal, "sudo tune2fs -j /dev/hdaX"  where "X" is the partition you want to convert
[09:55] <tritium> Mattias, I don't have ATI.
[09:55] <HappyFool> unu: you mean, restore the old mbr ?
[09:55] <Mattias> tritium, don't get one! :P ATI on linux is a pain.
[09:55] <N6REJ> nalioth:  would you please remind me of the command to check for the partion names?
[09:55] <nalioth> N6REJ: change accordingly if you have scsi or sata drives
[09:55] <tritium> I know...
[09:55] <aftertaf> [Chameleon]  and without reinstalling? i could maybe mount var to another partition?
[09:55] <nalioth> N6REJ: "sudo fdisk -l"
[09:55] <N6REJ> thats it.. ty.
[09:55] <tritium> Mattias, did you setup ATI according to the wiki?
[09:55] <hume> hi .. i got a brand new hoary installation on a box with a NIC using a DEC 21041-chip, and that NIC will not function
[09:55] <Syruss> I'm looking for the sdl version of UAE, anyone know of a decent apt repository which'll have it? (wasn't in multiverse, that was just the regular version)
[09:55] <tritium> !tell Mattias about ati
[09:55] <unu> happyfool - no make it see my new one
[09:56] <Mattias> ill check those out :)
[09:56] <tritium> okay, Mattias
[09:56] <redmonkey> hi everybody! is there a linux version of the game lumines?
[09:56] <iceman64> whats the link to gnome look .. i knw theres one for kde ... has to be something like that for kde
[09:57] <HappyFool> unu: what did you mean by "change the partitions after that" ? using fdisk or what?
[09:57] <nalioth> iceman64: gnome-look.org?
[09:58] <iceman64> nalioth got that ... now installing a theme
[09:58] <N6REJ> nalioth: UH OH! ... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3438
[09:59] <nalioth> N6REJ: got a livecd/
[09:59] <iceman64> do i want gtk2.x themes for gnome ?
[09:59] <unu> HappyFool: let me explain; somebody told me to backup my mbr before install windows; i did that, but when i installed win i erased some partitions, and my hdd partition map changed; so when i restored my old mbr i got my old partitions in grub and fdisk, which don't fit my new ones; so now only ubuntu is accessible, because i haven't changed it; but win and the other partitions are unavailable (fdisk doesn't see them)
[09:59] <HappyFool> unu: ah
[09:59] <unu> HappyFool: not ah, ooops :P
[10:00] <N6REJ> nalioth: not on purpose.. but I could reinstall the whole thing I guess.. nothing on it yet.  I just dl'd the server distro last night and it acted weird....
[10:00] <N6REJ> nalioth: I haven't rebooted yet.
[10:00] <nalioth> N6REJ: no need to reboot
[10:00] <HappyFool> unu: i will quickly browse 'man sfdisk' -- i suggest you do too
[10:00] <quarupt> Hey can someone help me install Ubuntu on VMware Player?
[10:00] <nalioth> N6REJ: get a ubuntu liveCD
[10:00] <unu> sfdisk? didnt know about that one
[10:00] <N6REJ> nalioth: ok, why?
[10:01] <HappyFool> unu: maybe fdisk will suffice
[10:01] <nalioth> HappyFool: sfdisk?
[10:01] <quarupt> Anyone use VMware player yet??
[10:01] <HappyFool> nalioth: super-leet fdisk. but maybe i'm being silly
[10:01] <nalioth> N6REJ: b/c you cant repair your superblock problems while the disks are mounted
[10:01] <heatheranne> Hello.
[10:01] <nalioth> HappyFool: ah i thought you were talking about sexyfdisk
[10:01] <HappyFool> unu: i think you will need to know the start/end sectors etc. of each partition
[10:01] <N6REJ> nalioth: oh, ok, that makes sense.
[10:02] <HappyFool> heh
[10:02] <HappyFool> :P
[10:02] <unu> i'm dead :D
[10:02] <heatheranne> Is this room just for people updating to the new build of Ubuntu?
[10:02] <quarupt> :(
[10:02] <quarupt> I wanna install Ubuntu on VMware player
[10:02] <spiral> hi
[10:02] <iceman64> can anyone direct me to personal gnome desktop screenshots ...
[10:02] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: I'm really not sure since I don't know your config.
[10:02] <HappyFool> heatheranne: nope, any ubuntu release
[10:02] <indypende> how to disable esd at every boot? (like the ubuntuguide for hoary?
[10:02] <nalioth> heatheranne: nope. it's for ice cream recipes, too
[10:02] <paca> I'm curious if an OpenOffice.org update will show up, or if it will need to be installed more traditionally.
[10:02] <[Chameleon] > iceman64: http://chameleon.homelinux.net/gallery/Ubuntu-5-10-Breezy-Badger
[10:02] <nalioth> heatheranne: no wait, ice cream in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <HappyFool> nalioth: forgotten to take your dried frog pills again? ;)
[10:03] <taryn> wow
[10:03] <heatheranne> I am new to Linux and even newer to Ubuntu, so I have a general question.  Just tell me if I am not allowed to ask here.
[10:03] <heatheranne> Does anyone know of a good embedded media player for firefox?  MPlayer crashes 80% of the time.
[10:03] <[Chameleon] > actually, all of http://chameleon.homelinux.net/gallery/Screenshots is Gnome
[10:03] <taryn> i suck at linux
[10:03] <N6REJ> nalioth: riddle me this... why would my router recieve a name of "null" from the server when it is set to as a dhcp client with perptual assignment?
[10:03] <taryn> i cant even figure out how to open a rar file
[10:03] <unu> heatheranne: vlc
[10:03] <[Chameleon] > heatheranne: YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED!!
[10:03] <nicholaspaul> heatheranne you can ask away
[10:03] <[Chameleon] > heatheranne: J/K
[10:03] <quarupt> Can anyone even see what im asking?
[10:03] <nalioth> heatheranne: ask anything you like in here (we get folks from gentoo, redhat, mandriva, debian and on and on)
[10:03] <[Chameleon] > heatheranne: I like the gzine plugin
[10:03] <quarupt> Or am i just being ignored?
[10:03] <nalioth> quarupt: we can see you
[10:03] <HappyFool> quarupt: if we don't know, we don't answer ;)
[10:03] <N6REJ> taryn:  don't feel alone.. I used to know a little bit, but now I feel like an idiot
[10:04] <heatheranne> I have KDE but not the actual Kubuntu build.
[10:04] <indypende> how to disable esd at every boot? (like the ubuntuguide for hoary?
[10:04] <nalioth> quarupt: if nobody has an answer for you, you may get that "ignored" feeling
[10:04] <quarupt> So no one knows how to do an install on VMware?
[10:04] <HappyFool> unu: if you don't know where the partitions start/end, i think you might be out of luck
[10:04] <heatheranne> What is vlc, besides an embedded media player?
[10:04] <[Chameleon] > heatheranne: vlc == VideoLAN Client
[10:04] <heatheranne> I hate being a newbie.  So sorry.
[10:04] <HappyFool> unu: backing up the mbr in that way should not be necessary. You can reinstall the ubuntu MBR using grub from the livecd
[10:04] <ztonzy> nalioth, lol...I got that...asked couple of times about totem-mozilla-plugin
[10:04] <nalioth> heatheranne: just a well endowed (with codecs) non embedded media player
[10:04] <nicholaspaul> i'm not ignoring you quarupt, i just dont know how to install vmware :)
[10:04] <[Chameleon] > heatheranne: it's no problem. some of us like helping n00bs
[10:04] <nicholaspaul> isnt it something you have to pay for?
[10:05] <ztonzy> nalioth, and no one seemed to have any answer for me
[10:05] <HappyFool> unu: easiest thing would be to reinstall windows, i think
[10:05] <N6REJ> heatheranne: don't feel sorry.  I am a newbie and I've used linux before... just forgot most of it.  And some nights like 2nite I can't even remember basic commands.
[10:05] <nalioth> HappyFool: NO NO
[10:05] <nicholaspaul> ztonzy you're not alone. I wanted to edit my xfce menus and get the audio fixed.....:(
[10:05] <nalioth> HappyFool: mbr issue, right ? grub? unu ?
[10:05] <iceman64> Chameleon not to my tast ... do i want gtk 2.0 themes ?
[10:06] <HappyFool> nalioth: yeah. he lost his partition table
[10:06] <heatheranne> LOL N6, I came from OSX, so this is so foreign to me.  I am gonna check my package manager and see if vlc is installed.
[10:06] <taryn> what im having issues with is the directory structure, im used to the windows where i can just put stuff on C:\program files\, but with ubunttu im having issues even how to extract files from an archive to anywhere
[10:06] <unu> nalioth mbr issue
[10:06] <iceman64> xmms
[10:06] <nalioth> unu: do you have ubuntu?
[10:06] <unu> yup
[10:06] <unu> actually more like xubuntu :P
[10:06] <HappyFool> nalioth: ubuntu is working. windows is not (as i understand)
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell heatheranne about repos
[10:06] <walle> Hi all! I have U 5.10 and icewm, how I add to menu new program...? Any idea...
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell heatheranne about apt-get
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell heatheranne about synaptic
[10:06] <ztonzy> nicholaspaul, hehe....funny thing is , that this totem-mozilla-plugin is installed by default...and I guess official supported...but as it doesn't work, someone would have an answer....???
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell heatheranne about cli
[10:06] <quarupt> Breezy Badger??? man I goto school for 2 quarters and I come back and ya guys have moved up 2 stable Releases!!!
[10:06] <unu> nalioth is there a way to check manually my mbr? or sort of?
[10:06] <RezDawg> hello ubuntu world
[10:06] <[Chameleon] > heatheranne: I don't think vlc is installed by default.
[10:07] <nalioth> heatheranne: i hope you like reading cuz ubotu has sent you some info that may interest you
[10:07] <unu> nalioth even lower than fdisk
[10:07] <nalioth> unu: if ubuntu is working, edit your grub menu.lst
[10:07] <ztonzy> nalioth, how to ask the bot ?
[10:07] <heatheranne> apt-get is command line, I am much more comfortable with a ui
[10:07] <iceman64> Theme packs for gnome ... " I want gtk 2.x " that correct ?
[10:07] <HappyFool> nalioth: his partition table is incorrect; grub won't find windows
[10:07] <nicholaspaul> heatheranne try synaptic
[10:07] <nalioth> ztonzy: /msg ubotu ubotu
[10:08] <unu> nalioth: no cause my mbr is wrong - i actually want to get my mrb to point to my real partitions :((
[10:08] <nalioth> unu: parted wont find it either?
[10:08] <taryn> is there a linux distro that isnt all command lined out? i left dos for a reason
[10:08] <heatheranne> is ubotu a bot?
[10:08] <unu> taryn: yes, windows :P
[10:08] <nalioth> taryn: ummmm i dont know, maybe ubuntu?
[10:08] <nalioth> heatheranne: yes he is
[10:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell heatheranne about yourself
[10:08] <mojo> ubotu: tell mojo about ubotu
[10:08] <azertyuuu> hey all, what was the name of the prog to CHANGE the munu-STYLE  (not the menu-editor)
[10:08] <taryn> unu: nice, lol
[10:08] <iceman64> taryn nope ... winblows still sucks
[10:09] <quarupt> taryn, You dont HAVE to use command lines in Linux, but there a part of every distro even linsphere
[10:09] <paca> please don't compare the DOS command line to a unix shell.  They are not even remotely the same.
[10:09] <azertyuuu> ubotu: tell azertyuuu about yourself
[10:09] <heatheranne> thats amazing stuff :)
[10:09] <quarupt> *Linsphire
[10:09] <taryn> paca: typing things in command line is the same no matter what the core is
[10:09] <quarupt> whaqtever there calling after 7 lawsuits
[10:09] <gmhafiz> Linspire
[10:09] <iceman64> ok who can walk me through installing a theme in gnome
[10:10] <unu> taryn: yeah right, try to do i/o redirection in dos
[10:10] <paca> taryn: no, it isn't.
[10:10] <frank_b> I have to mount my floppy in the terminal first before I can access it from the "Computer" entry in the "Places" menu. I don't remember this happening in Hoary. Is this a bug?
[10:10] <ztonzy> nalioth, the bot doesnt have any answer on it...(totem mozilla plugin) why install it by default if it doesnt work ?
[10:10] <unu> if anyone has an idea of a program which checks my hd and writes a mbr based on that, it would be great :P
[10:11] <quarupt> taryn, NO, it's completely different UNIX type shells are way more advanced than DOS command line stuff
[10:11] <N6REJ> nalioth: well it rebooted ok!
[10:11] <taryn> its still typing text in to make the computer do something
[10:11] <taryn> thats what i meant, dont think all deep into a simple statement
[10:11] <nalioth> ztonzy: i have 0 clue
[10:11] <HappyFool> unu: reinstall windows, and don't overwrite the mbr again *shrug*
[10:11] <quarupt> taryn, It's Input to make the computer work, that comes with anything
[10:11] <RezDawg> !users
[10:11] <ubotu> RezDawg: Are you on ritalin?
[10:11] <cevizoglu> quarupt, taryn doesn't care if it's a different kind of command-line
[10:11] <taryn> exactly
[10:12] <nalioth> unu: yes, you'll need this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:12] <unu> HappyFool: don't want to! and i can't get into win now :( probably a win recovery is the solution
[10:12] <mojo> nalioth: ubotu is really cool.  i love this thing
[10:12] <Pickle_Weasel> is there something similar to alt-tab that will let me switch out of full screen programs, a package perhaps?
[10:12] <hume> i got a nic using DEC chip 21041, that wont work, and I find information saying it should work with tulip driver, however, that is not what seems to be loaded automatically - how do I change this?
[10:12] <quarupt> well like I said command line is a part of every distro, doesnt mean ya have to use it
[10:12] <taryn> im trying to learn, just sorta frustrating when your not sober at the time
[10:13] <quarupt> I found a free X-server for windows
[10:13] <quarupt> YA
[10:13] <nalioth> mojo: thank cafuego when you see him
[10:13] <HappyFool> what, cygwin ? ;)
[10:13] <unu> nalioth: sorry, these kinds of problems aren't even in the manual :P they're beyond stupidity
[10:13] <quarupt> now I can access my work box and do X stuff
[10:13] <mojo> lol should root login require breathalyzer biometrics? he he he
[10:13] <nalioth> unu: the wiki URL is for AFTER you reinstall windows
[10:13] <taryn> anyway, can anyone recommend a good archiving program for ubuntu that reads rar's? and can sorta walk me through an extraction?
[10:13] <cevizoglu> mojo, no, root login should be banned  ;)
[10:13] <mojo> cevizoglu: touche
[10:13] <HappyFool> heh
[10:13] <N6REJ> nalioth: do you know why my router would say this?  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3439
[10:13] <quarupt> No SUDO should be banned
[10:13] <azertyuuu> hey all, what was the name of the prog to CHANGE the munu-STYLE  (not the menu-editor)
[10:13] <unu> thx guys
[10:14] <unu> gonna go recover windows :| from the install cd
[10:14] <quarupt> Hey im only getting 300/k on the DL. whats the deal
[10:14] <nalioth> N6REJ: that isnt a lot of into
[10:14] <HappyFool> unu: so install cd can reconstruct the mbr?
[10:14] <nalioth> info
[10:14] <[Chameleon] > quarupt: you blasphemed SUDO, that's what.
[10:14] <quarupt> huh?
[10:14] <malv> would it be safe to recommend ubuntu to your typical clueless windows user?
[10:15] <N6REJ> nalioth: ok, wait one please.
[10:15] <quarupt> SUDO is useless if you know what your doing
[10:15] <nalioth> malv: of course!
[10:15] <mojo> ROTFLMAO  @ Chameleon!
[10:15] <taryn> malv, im the typical windows user, and ubuntu is sorta complicated for me
[10:15] <[Chameleon] > quarupt: sudo is easily bypassed if you know what you're doing. so stop complaining about it.
[10:15] <nalioth> quarupt: cevizoglu take your root/sudo to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:15] <HappyFool> malv: bear in mind the annoyances of dvd/mp3 playing, but otherwise yes
[10:15] <paca> malv, about as safe as recommending Windows to them, probably.
[10:15] <malv> heh
[10:15] <quarupt> SUDO PASSWD
[10:15] <quarupt> its that easy
[10:15] <quarupt> Its the first step in an install for me
[10:15] <unu> HappyFool: believe so
[10:15] <unu> bye!
[10:15] <tritium> quarupt, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:16] <iceman64> Help ... got a complete theme package ... now how to install in gnome ...
[10:16] <nalioth> quarupt: please man, we dont want any flames in here
[10:16] <quarupt> tritium, I would if it was OFF topic
[10:16] <malv> I can just see it now, "Ubuntu destroyed my hard disk"
[10:16] <[Chameleon] > quarupt: take your opinion to /dev/null
[10:16] <tritium> quarupt, enough then
[10:16] <frank_b> question: is it possible to change the picture that appears when Ubuntu boots?
[10:16] <mojo> Hey, anyone REALLY good with mounting vfat to have r/w perms for just members of a group?  Mine LOOKS right but I still can't get write access
[10:16] <HappyFool> malv: it would probably be an idea to find out what the user wants to do, and compare that to what is in the default install
[10:16] <iceman64> frank_b yea ...
[10:16] <ztonzy> hmm
[10:17] <[Chameleon] > frank_b: System / Administration / Login Screen Setup
[10:17] <quarupt> Not an opinion, that would be something like..  "root login should be destroyed"
[10:17] <ztonzy> isnt mplayer among the repositries no more ?
[10:17] <quarupt> why dont ya yell at him
[10:17] <aboe> frank_b it is possible in the future, ad the moment the the picture, (you mean, ubuntu logo as it boots) is hardcoded
[10:17] <HappyFool> ztonzy: 'apt-cache search mplayer' shows me lots of things
[10:18] <ztonzy> HappyFool, true...sorry for that
[10:18] <malv> i've had my share of difficulties with Ubuntu, especially when dealing with strange setups
[10:18] <frank_b> iceman64, I'm sorry. maybe I explained my self wrongly. I mean the one right after grub
[10:18] <tritium> quarupt, stop please
[10:18] <quarupt> I did
[10:18] <frank_b> aboe, hmm. yes... ok. that's what I figured. thanks
[10:18] <quarupt> Now dont talk to me anymore seriously
[10:18] <malv> my sisters computer had two sound cards, I had to disable one to get it working again
[10:18] <hume> how do I change which module is automatically loaded for my nic? It is not listed in  /etc/modules so I guess it is some discover or hotplug stuff. It's a new installation of hoary
[10:19] <aboe> frank_b, only change you can make, is ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu...at the moment
[10:19] <iceman64> I need help installing a theme in gnome .. or i go back to kde where i can figure it out
[10:19] <iceman64> why i hate gnome
[10:19] <frank_b> [Chameleon] , I'm sorry. maybe I explained my self wrongly. I mean the one right after grub
[10:19] <tritium> quarupt, lighten up, dude
[10:19] <malv> iceman64: its just drag and drop iceman
[10:19] <taryn> how do i even open the command line in ubuntu? lol
[10:19] <frank_b> aboe, ok. thanks
[10:19] <malv> iceman64: system->preferences->theme
[10:19] <iceman64> malv drag drop where
[10:19] <HappyFool> iceman64: tried system -> preferences -> themes, 'Install theme' ?
[10:19] <aboe> iceman64, go to preferences, themas, and select install theme
[10:19] <quarupt> DUDE, I just asked you politely NOT to speak to me again
[10:19] <aboe> damn HappyFool your quicker
[10:20] <malv> iceman64: under theme details
[10:20] <paca> taryn, utilities menu.
[10:20] <[Chameleon] > frank_b: oh, no you can't change that easily.
[10:20] <[Chameleon] > frank_b: AFAIK
[10:20] <HappyFool> *rolls eyes*
[10:20] <iceman64> malv does not reconize the format ...
[10:20] <malv> iceman64: you can download different controls, windows borders, and icons. To install all you need to do is drag and drop where it says
[10:20] <HappyFool> aboe: heh :-)
[10:20] <frank_b> [Chameleon] , aboe already told that it will be in the future though. "AFAIK"?
[10:20] <malv> iceman64: did you download it from art.gnome.org?
[10:20] <vladuz976> anybody here know how to install japanese input method?
[10:21] <iceman64> gnome-look
[10:21] <iceman64> malv it's the mac theme package
[10:21] <aboe> iceman64, than it should work, in your thema menu....look at thema-details, to find it
[10:21] <[Chameleon] > frank_b: As Far As I Know
[10:21] <iceman64> malv unziped the archive ...
[10:21] <frank_b> [Chameleon] , aha. ah, got it :)
[10:22] <iceman64> but that still wont let me select the packages
[10:22] <ztonzy> doesnt seem that ubuntu-devs like mplayer :-\
[10:22] <malv> iceman64: you shouldn't need to have to go through anything like that to install your typical theme, but I don't know if what you have might require different measures
[10:22] <frank_b> well, I'm out for now
[10:22] <frank_b> bye all
[10:22] <ztonzy> how in earth should we have a working mediaplayer in the webbrowser +
[10:22] <ztonzy> ?
[10:22] <aboe> bye frank_b
[10:23] <iceman64> ok .. now chaging the login ... ?
[10:23] <aboe> iceman64, wich theme from gnome.look
[10:23] <ompaul> iceman64, system - admin - login screen setup
[10:23] <cevizoglu> ztonzy, it **almost* * works for me... the audio is a little choppy
[10:23] <whistler> my problem is that /dev/hda5       /home/toxix/hardas auto umask=777 0 0 somehow doesnt work
[10:23] <malv> ive been using the mplayer plugin for firefox; works on some streams
[10:23] <N6REJ> nalioth: try this..  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3440
[10:24] <ztonzy> cevizoglu, heh..."almost" is my belife not good enough...
[10:24] <ztonzy> cevizoglu, I tried to add extra repositry for finding mplayer and it doesn't exist (backports)
[10:24] <whistler> any good sotware for mounting hdd?
[10:24] <nalioth> N6REJ: how many network devices you got?
[10:24] <whistler> i mean with gui
[10:25] <iceman64> malv let me find the gnome-look name
[10:25] <dabaR> ztonzy...
[10:25] <dabaR> !+info mplayer
[10:25] <ubotu> Package 'mplayer' does not exist.
[10:25] <cevizoglu> !tell ztonzy about mplayer
[10:25] <ztonzy> eek
[10:25] <whistler> any good sotware for mounting hdd with gui??
[10:25] <dabaR> !+info mplayer-386
[10:25] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB
[10:25] <iceman64> malv Mac OS X Bundle 2.1
[10:26] <N6REJ> nalioth: right this minute I've got 3, my windows machine, my wifes windows machine, and the server.  I want the server to have 2 interfaces.  One physical and one virtual.  The physcial for the public webspace and the virtual for the family intranet.  Eventually there will be 7-12 systems on the network.
[10:26] <redmonkey> is there a linux version of the game lumines?
[10:26] <ztonzy> dabaR, thanks
[10:26] <ztonzy> cevizoglu, :)
[10:26] <ompaul> redmonkey, describe the game
[10:26] <nalioth> N6REJ: so you got .4 configured with a hostname?
[10:27] <iceman64> gnome will not open the login screen config menu
[10:27] <morgenes> hi, i have a problem: VLC doesn't open since i change it's interface from the menu options
[10:27] <N6REJ> nalioth: 3 right this minute, cause I just did a complete reinstall of the server.
[10:27] <whistler> can anybody help me to mount my ext3 partition ?
[10:27] <redmonkey> ompaul, it's a tetris-like game
[10:27] <aboe> iceman64, I'm searching gnome.look, but can't find the theme your trying to install
[10:27] <ompaul> redmonkey, there are many tetris like games
[10:27] <N6REJ> nalioth: the server knows its "adam" but dhcp isn't getting that.
[10:27] <N6REJ> nalioth: ok.
[10:27] <thenuke> whistler: maybe, what's the exact problem
[10:27] <redmonkey> ompaul, i know :)
[10:27] <Jukru> morgenes: remove ~/.vlc and try again
[10:27] <iceman64> aboe gtk2.x then on secong page
[10:28] <ztonzy> but still...why release a plugin that doesnt work as it should ?
[10:28] <ompaul> redmonkey, so give us more clues
[10:28] <morgenes> i removed it via synaptic, but nothing
[10:28] <iceman64> got the general theme installed ... now the login screen is a issue
[10:30] <iceman64> brb
[10:31] <whistler> here is my fstab entry /dev/hda5       /home/toxix/hardas auto umask=777       0       0
[10:31] <whistler> any ideas of whats wrong ?
[10:32] <ompaul> /dev/hda5       /usr/local      ext3    defaults        0       2
[10:32] <glyn> Hi all
[10:33] <ompaul> whistler, my guess is that the partition you are pointing at is a ntfs one?
[10:33] <erirlar> is amarok the only podcast player for linux?
[10:33] <RezDawg> Can someone help me please, i made a file but forgot to say what type of file it is, so it says its unkown, how do i make the file type i want
[10:33] <whistler> ompaul its an ext3
[10:34] <iceman64> Why cant i start the login screen setup utility ?
[10:34] <cevizoglu> RezDawg, rename the file to have the extension you intended
[10:34] <iceman64> starts to load and dies
[10:34] <ompaul> whistler, what I have pointed to is a partition that is standard as declared by Ubuntu so its your call
[10:34] <morgenes> cool! problem solved: deleting the config file of vlc solves any problem
[10:34] <topyli> erirlar: no, i found penguin-tv pretty good (gnome), but there's no package. you have to fetch it from the home page
[10:34] <aboe> iceman64, i've installed the theme, except for the colors it is working as the install.txt says
[10:34] <RezDawg> cevizoglu: i tried that but under properties it still says type unkown
[10:35] <cevizoglu> RezDawg, so Ubuntu doesn't know which app you prefer to open that extension with
[10:36] <djfm> hi
[10:36] <cevizoglu> RezDawg, There is an "Open With" tab where you can tell it which app you prefer to open that file
[10:36] <iceman64> what ever i did killed everything
[10:36] <djfm> I was wondering if there is a open source program to dictate to your computer ?
[10:36] <aboe> iceman64, woops
[10:37] <aboe> mmm...installed the theme completely, and found no problems, like yours...
[10:37] <Mattias> well. i had to use vesa drivers in the xorg.conf to not get a lockup with my ati card, but now ill try fix it from within ubuntu. anyone who can help me?
[10:37] <RezDawg> cevizoglu: i made a iso and wanted to burn it
[10:38] <Xaios> Wow I must say
[10:38] <Xaios> Unbuntu has made a believer out of me :)
[10:38] <Xaios> haha
[10:38] <iceman64> now ... only problem ... system/ administration/ login screen setup .. does not open ... can not configure it there .. the application starts ... then dies
[10:39] <Xaios> ubuntu*
[10:39] <Xaios> sorry
[10:39] <RezDawg> cevizoglu: when i tried the open with tab it said couldnt add, oh well ill just do it again
[10:39] <RezDawg> cevizoglu: thanks
[10:39] <ompaul> morning thoreauputic
[10:39] <aboe> strange...
[10:39] <thoreauputic> hi ompaul
[10:39] <iceman64> it goes starting login Screen setup .. then the whole app closes
[10:39] <cevizoglu> RezDawg, or you could just open the file with the app you intend to burn with
[10:39] <aboe> did you update to the last version?? try synaptic updating...
[10:39] <[Chameleon] > dangit
[10:39] <[Chameleon] > I hate doing that
[10:40] <aboe> or iceman64 try to reset your gnome session...with a soft reboot, login out, and login back in...
[10:40] <RezDawg> cevizoglu: i tired that no go
[10:41] <Xaios> Can anyone point me to any good Java IDEs that run on Linux? Im a pretty big noob (learning java) so vi/emacs is out of the question something colorful but not as slow as netbeans
[10:41] <cevizoglu> Xaios, eclipse
[10:41] <iceman64> aboe i have ... loged out .. even tried to config from kde ... there it was available ...
[10:41] <xukun> what that application to internet radio's?
[10:41] <Xaios> Thanks Cevizoglu
[10:42] <aboe> mmm...then I can't help you on that one...
[10:42] <cevizoglu> !tell Xaios about eclipse
[10:42] <RezDawg> .commands
[10:43] <Xaios> A few more questions, whats a good Usenet Reader, a replacement for QuickPar, a replacement for Nero, a replacement for DVDShrink, and then Im windows free :)
[10:44] <nalioth> Xaios: a terminal program called "par2" does your quickpar duties (in terminal)
[10:44] <nalioth> Xaios: k3b is a pretty good cd/dvd burner
[10:44] <johndilley> Xaios: If you want a graphical news client, thunderbird's not bad
[10:44] <nalioth> Xaios: i believe you want dvdrip
[10:44] <topyli> Xaios: dvdsrhink may be the most difficult of those to replace
[10:44] <nalioth> johndilley: news? thunderbird? i'd suggest pan
[10:44] <Xaios> Im thinking along the lines of NewsLeecher is what I use on Windows
[10:45] <Xaios> Ive head its possible to emulate windows enough in linux to run some of my apps
[10:45] <topyli> Xaios: you mean you "read" a lot of binaries?
[10:45] <HappyFool> emacs gnus *evil cackle*
[10:45] <RezDawg> Xaios: im still working on dvdshrink, theres one called xdvdshrink but i hear the best thing to do is run dvdshrink in wine
[10:45] <Xaios> can someone point to a website for this project?
[10:45] <johndilley> nalioth: fair enough :)
[10:46] <topyli> Xaios: try to find replacements instead. emulation really is not a very good option
[10:46] <ompaul> Xaios, which project?
[10:46] <RezDawg> Xaios: another problem im having is burning dvds in linux so they play on standalone dvd player
[10:46] <Xaios> Wine I believe
[10:46] <nalioth> Xaios: www.ubuntulinux.org
[10:46] <purserj> RezDawg: I've had no problems burning DVDs for replay
[10:46] <iceman64> well we will just install 172 gnome packages .. gconf was not installed
[10:46] <Mattias> hmm. how do i add stuff when my root password doesnt work when im regular user?
[10:46] <ompaul> www.ubuntu.com
[10:46] <Xaios> I really must say Ive tried linux before but this Ubuntu is really getting me hooked
[10:47] <topyli> Xaios: yes, wine works, especially its commercial incarnations. but i'd only go that direction as a last resort
[10:47] <RezDawg> purserj: how to you burn them then? ive tried gnomebake, k3b no luck
[10:47] <HappyFool> !tell Mattias about sudo
[10:47] <purserj> RezDawg: I just use k3b and an iso image
[10:48] <ompaul> Xaios, wine is not an emulator - that is on www.winehq.org but use the packages for Ubuntu if  your going to use any on ubuntu - they are the best match
[10:48] <RezDawg> purserj: making the file an iso is what im trying to do as we speak
[10:48] <ompaul> Xaios, best plan as you have been told is to use the alternatives - it is just so much less painful in the long rung
[10:48] <ompaul> s/rung/run
[10:49] <Xaios> Yes It will be a change, but Im starting to like it
[10:49] <purserj> RezDawg: how are you doing it?
[10:49] <Xaios> I just kinda miss my trillian and its super cool loging abilities, GAIM is somewhat lacking
[10:49] <RezDawg> purserj: mkisofs
[10:49] <nalioth> Xaios: most linux chat things log
[10:49] <topyli> Xaios: by the way, nautilus burns data cd's and dvd's happily, serpentine works for audio cd's. no need to launch monster applications just to burn a stupid disk :)
[10:50] <Mattias> HappyFool, but when i open Add Application it says "Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root: Wrong password." even tho the same password works in the recovery mode, and i am not typing wrong
[10:50] <SSLx86> Hi, I was wondering if i dont have a CDR how can I install Ubuntu, w/o waiting for the one in the mail?
[10:50] <HappyFool> Mattias: you've enabled root then?
[10:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell SSLx86 about smartboot
[10:50] <RezDawg> purserj: how do you go about it
[10:50] <cevizoglu> Mattias, it means as virtual root, I think
[10:50] <HappyFool> Mattias: try your user's password
[10:50] <Mattias> HappyFool, i did passwd root in recovery mode, if that what ya mean
[10:51] <thenuke>  ubotu: tell thenuke about smartboot
[10:51] <Mattias> HappyFool, lol. regular user password worked: S
[10:51] <iceman> no he did not
[10:51] <HappyFool> Mattias: ok. regardless, i think the menus use sudo, not su
[10:51] <purserj> RezDawg: Usually I use something like DVDStyler
[10:51] <SSLx86> THX!
[10:51] <revpeter> hi, i have troubles with tvtime
[10:51] <Mattias> HappyFool, thought i had to use root pass. :)
[10:51] <revpeter> i have no audio
[10:51] <thenuke> Ubotu wont tell me about smartboot
[10:51] <ubotu> thenuke: I haven't a clue
[10:51] <cevizoglu> Mattias, when it says root it means virtual root, aka sudo
[10:51] <ompaul> thenuke, you know you can also "/msg ubotu query" and the conversation is private
[10:51] <revpeter> my soundcard is audigy 1 player
[10:52] <nalioth> thenuke: because you're not registered
[10:52] <thenuke> ompaul: tried that too
[10:52] <Phr0zenKore> LOL!!!! a preloader on a flash site, says -233433444%
[10:52] <Phr0zenKore> xD
[10:52] <iceman> must say the mack look is clean
[10:52] <HappyFool> Mattias: you can read the wiki page ubotu told you about to find out more about ubuntu admin/root account policy
[10:52] <thenuke> nalioth: ah ok
[10:52] <RezDawg> purserj: i couldnt find anything or anybody last night, so im still trying to burn one
[10:52] <revpeter> and avertv studio 303
[10:52] <azertyuuu> can you help me, i need to change the menustyle , but not with the "Menu Editor" , there was someting else
[10:52] <SSLx86> Nalioth I dont have a Floppy drive  :(
[10:52] <purserj> RezDawg: Thats for video I've created myself. If it's a rip of a dvd I either run "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=[target] " to create a copy or try one of the ripping packages
[10:53] <Mattias> HappyFool, do u know where i can find ati drivers install?
[10:53] <Mattias> HappyFool, fglrx drivers
[10:53] <xukun> How can I hear music from my headset(usb) I only the sound from the speakers
[10:53] <HappyFool> Mattias: read the wiki page?
[10:53] <ompaul> thenuke, do this >/msg nickserv register [SomeNotImportantPasswordHere] < then >/msg nickserv identify thepassword<
[10:53] <HappyFool> !tell Mattias about ati
[10:53] <cevizoglu> xukun, alsamixer
[10:53] <HappyFool> Mattias: if those don't work, i don't know
[10:53] <frank_b> is it possible to change the Main Menu icon?
[10:53] <Mattias> HappyFool, kk. testing now
[10:53] <azertyuuu> hey all, how can i play RealMedia Files
[10:54] <RezDawg> purserj: im a noob to linux and just googling for answers and asking in here
[10:54] <SSLx86> nalioth, is there another way cause the way the bot said needs a boot floppy :(
[10:54] <Mattias> HappyFool, E: Kunde inte hitta paketet xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:54] <Mattias>  :S
[10:54] <RezDawg> purserj: i found a url that gives command line stuff to do and hoping it will work
[10:54] <xukun> cevizoglu, I now installed alsamixergui, which option do I need to set on
[10:54] <iceman> next issue ... mounting my ntfs filesystem in linux
[10:54] <Mattias> HappyFool, i forgot to mention i always get that error, it won't find anything to install
[10:54] <nalioth> SSLx86: do you have a computer that can boot from the network?
[10:55] <HappyFool> Mattias: you need to setup your repositories
[10:55] <nalioth> iceman: read-only
[10:55] <ompaul> !tell iceman about ntfs
[10:55] <HappyFool> !tell Mattias about repositories
[10:55] <topyli> Mattias: see if apt-get update works
[10:55] <topyli> Mattias: the mirrors you are using may simply be down
[10:55] <Mattias> topyli, E: Kunde inte ppna lsfilen /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 tkomst nekas)
[10:55] <Mattias> E: Kunde inte lsa listkatalogen
[10:55] <Mattias> topyli, oh
[10:55] <nalioth> apokryphos: wake up
[10:56] <Mattias> topyli, im not really used to debian :P im used to gentoo stuff :)
[10:56] <HappyFool> Mattias: make sure you aren't running synaptic too
[10:56] <topyli> Mattias: try the regular archive.ubuntu.com repositories, with no country codes
[10:56] <HappyFool> Mattias: and you need to do 'sudo apt-get update'
[10:56] <purserj> RezDawg: That's cool, what exactly are you trying to burn? Is it a commercial dvd (for legimitate backup purposes of course) or is it a home video?
[10:56] <kokoko1> hi, someone let me know if beams.beaconhouse.edu.pk  is working?
[10:56] <RezDawg> purserj: the first of course
[10:56] <xukun> cevizoglu, I dont see a headset option in alsamixergui
[10:56] <cevizoglu> xukun, Headphon maybe?
[10:57] <purserj> Ah, okay
[10:57] <thenuke> ompaul: yea I am registered, I just never remember to identify :)
[10:58] <indypende> how can i unpack the .bz2 files?
[10:58] <ompaul> thenuke, so put it in your login script
[10:58] <iceman> ok... queston... anyone installed diablo II in linux
[10:58] <Mattias> topyli, how do i change that ?
[10:58] <kokoko1> tar jxvf
[10:58] <HappyFool> on freenode you can login to the irc server with your password (i.e., no nickserv script needed)
[10:58] <Mattias> topyli, oh i might have found it
[10:58] <azertyuuu> hey all, how can i play RealMedia Files
[10:58] <purserj> RezDawg: To be honest, when I'm backing up my DVD's the quickest way to do it is to run dvdshrink under windows. There really isn't a tool with the same level of stability and simplicity for Linux just yet. There are a couple that are close
[10:58] <HappyFool> indypende: tried bunzip2 ?
[10:58] <batman> hey does anyone know of a .wmv player?
[10:59] <topyli> Mattias: my .fi repositories didn't work the other day, switching to archive.ubuntu.com did the tric
[10:59] <topyli> trick even
[10:59] <Mattias> topyli,  archive.ubuntu.com didnt work :/
[10:59] <RezDawg> purserj: well thats what ive been doing but im trying to find ways of not rebooting into windows
[10:59] <topyli> Mattias: can you ping it?
[10:59] <Mattias> topyli, ill try
[10:59] <topyli> i can
[10:59] <johndilley> azertyuuu: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:59] <thenuke> ompaul: I dont have any login scripts, nor know if it is possible to have script which runs when I'm connecting to freenode, I never close my irssi
[11:00] <Mattias> topyli, ping: bad number of packets to transmit.
[11:00] <Mattias> topyli, ops
[11:00] <xukun> cevizoglu, I dont see that
[11:00] <purserj> RezDawg: Mind you, if the total size of the DVD you are trying to backup is less than 4.5 GB then running the following will give you a perfectly good image: dd if=/dev/cdrom(or whatever your dvd device is) of=[target file] . This will give you a bit for bit copy of the disc which you canburn using k3b without an issue
[11:00] <Mattias> topyli, ye it works
[11:00] <Mattias> topyli, 50ms
[11:00] <cevizoglu> xukun, sorry, I can't help then... I just use alsamixer ,not the gui version
[11:01] <topyli> Mattias: paste one archive.ubuntu.com line from your /etc/apt/sources.list so we can see what's wrong
[11:01] <kokoko1> hi, someone let me know if beams.beaconhouse.edu.pk  is working?
[11:01] <topyli> one line only please!
[11:01] <iceman> uboto ... i want to install and run Diablo II from in wine ... now can i copy the diablo files from my ntfs file system .. or do i need to install from in wine ?
[11:01] <Mattias> topyli, deb archive.ubuntu.com stable main contrib non-free
[11:01] <HappyFool> iceman: ubotu is a bot (a computer program)
[11:02] <topyli> Mattias: ok, that's incorrect
[11:02] <Mattias> topyli, oh
[11:02] <azertyuuu> can you help me, i need to change the menustyle , but not with the "Menu Editor" , there was someting else
[11:02] <RezDawg> purserj: so in the termial i would type 'dd if=/dev/dvd  of=newimagefile'?
[11:02] <topyli> Mattias: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe multiverse (you're missing the http
[11:02] <ztonzy> yay
[11:02] <purserj> RezDawg: yup
[11:02] <ztonzy> plugin works...somehow
[11:02] <xukun> cevizoglu, there is also no headphon in alsmixer either
[11:02] <HappyFool> azertyuuu: system -> preferences -> menus ?
[11:02] <aboe> kokoko1, I can see the login in firefox
[11:02] <iceman> ok ... so do i need to install Diablo II from in wine ... or can i copy it from the ntfs file system
[11:02] <ztonzy> too bad I cant download the trailers ;)
[11:02] <xukun> cevizoglu, but thanks anyway
[11:02] <kokoko1> aboe, thanks you geo location pls ?
[11:03] <cevizoglu> xukun, sounds like your system may not recognize a headphone port
[11:03] <kokoko1> your*
[11:03] <topyli> Mattias: in fact there are several errors on your line
[11:03] <azertyuuu> happyfool and in kubuntu ?
[11:03] <RezDawg> purserj: www.dvd.chevelless230.com is what im trying as we speak
[11:03] <HappyFool> iceman: i don't know. i think there are problems with needing the cd; you might need a no-cd patch of some sort
[11:03] <HappyFool> azertyuuu: ah. sorry, i don't know
[11:03] <xukun> cevizoglu, yes it does
[11:03] <aboe> netherlands kokoko1
[11:03] <Mattias> topyli, i used ur lines
[11:03] <kokoko1> ah .eu ? thanks
[11:03] <johndilley> azertyuuu: you'll probably have more luck in #kubuntu
[11:03] <iceman> HappyFool i got the cd's .. thats not a issue ...
[11:03] <aboe> kokoko1, europe yeah
[11:03] <Mattias> topyli, was some warnings now tho only
[11:03] <kokoko1> aboe, im checking it coz it not working for one of our own cient in the same country :)
[11:03] <Pickle_Weasel> is there something similar to alt-tab that will let me switch out of full screen programs, a package perhaps?
[11:04] <Mattias> topyli, about some packages that doesnt exists
[11:04] <purserj> RezDawg: what is that?
[11:04] <HappyFool> iceman: the issue is wine can't provide the cd device for copyright protection
[11:04] <topyli> Mattias: hold on, i'll upload my whole sources.list on the web for your reference
[11:04] <HappyFool> iceman: try google for 'wine diablo ii'
[11:04] <iceman> oh ... ok
[11:04] <aboe> what browser is he using?? kokoko1
[11:04] <xukun> cevizoglu, [4294709.672000]  usbcore: registered new driver snd-usb-audio
[11:04] <Mattias> topyli, nice :)
[11:05] <aboe> kokoko1, it works in opera too
[11:05] <topyli> Mattias: http://siltala.net/comp/sources.list
[11:06] <xukun> cevizoglu, do you have an "headphone" or headset in your alsamix?
[11:06] <crov> Is there mysqlcc avaible for 5.10  this dont work "sudo apt-get install mysqlcc"
[11:06] <RezDawg> purserj: it shows you how to rip and make iso and burn from the commandline
[11:06] <topyli> Mattias: only use the breezy lines if you don't know what you're doing :)
[11:06] <cevizoglu> xukun, yes, when I run alsamixer the third entry to the left says "headphon"
[11:06] <RezDawg> purserj: need a prg called dvdbackup and libdvdread to do the ripping though
[11:07] <sudeep> How do I know which kernel is best for my comp: 386,486,586 or 686
[11:07] <xukun> cevizoglu, mine says Bass
[11:07] <johndilley> sudeep: what processor do you have?
[11:08] <nalioth> apokryphos: wakey wakey
[11:08] <sudeep> I have an AMD K-6 -2 (3d) 450Mhz processor
[11:08] <johndilley> run "cat /proc/cpuinfo" to be sure, but there should be a K6 Kernel
[11:08] <purserj> RezDawg: just having a look
[11:09] <batman> hey does anyone know of a .wmv player?
[11:09] <cevizoglu> xukun, do you see it if you hold down the right arrow key on your keyboard?
[11:09] <iceman> package update error ... who can help
[11:09] <iceman> where can i past it
[11:09] <sudeep> wmv player: download w32codecs
[11:09] <topyli> iceman: the pastebin, or #flood
[11:09] <Mattias> ty
[11:09] <Mattias> its working
[11:09] <topyli> cool
[11:09] <Tipp> Hi all
[11:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell iceman about paste
[11:10] <cevizoglu> xukun, if not, it looks like the driver is there but alsa isn't detecting the usb headphones
[11:10] <ompaul> crov, sudo apt-get install mysql-admin might suit you
[11:11] <iceman> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3441
[11:11] <sudeep> I ran "cat /proc/cpuinfo" It gave me cpu family: 5 . Does that mean i shud use  586?
[11:11] <ompaul> crov, also have a look at mysql-query-browser
[11:11] <Bieleke> hi guys
[11:11] <nalioth> iceman: try your apt-get again in a few minutes
[11:11] <Bieleke> on my local ubuntu box i want to use a /home on a linux SuSE samba-server, is that possible ?
[11:11] <Tipp> may i speak rus ?
[11:11] <Bieleke> if yes... how ? nfs ?
[11:11] <RezDawg> purserj: well the command dvdrecord doesnt work
[11:11] <nalioth> Subsonix: ubuntux?
[11:12] <johndilley> sudeep: not sure. It doesn't look like there's a 586 package though, so it might have to be 386 - anyone know any different?
[11:12] <nalioth> Tipp: #ubuntu-ru
[11:12] <topyli> iceman: us.archive.ubuntu.com might be down. try archive.ubuntu.com or give the us mirror some time to recover
[11:12] <Tipp> senk
[11:12] <iceman> ok thanks
[11:12] <revpeter> #ubuntu-pl
[11:13] <iceman> brb reboot
[11:13] <xukun> cevizoglu, take a look a this please: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3443
[11:14] <indypende> i need help to install the latest skype!
[11:14] <Mattias> woho
[11:14] <Mattias> got my ati card to work :D
[11:14] <indypende> someone can link me n how-to!
[11:14] <hume> is there a way to change my ubuntu to kubuntu without a fresh install?
[11:14] <indypende> someone can link me n how-to!
[11:14] <indypende> i need help to install the latest skype!
[11:14] <Mattias> i think ubuntu cd should include the xorg-driver-fglrx drivers from start, and not use ati driver but fglrx, cus ati drivers freezes the computer
[11:14] <Bieleke> indypende, press F1 and search the help
[11:14] <azertyuuu> ubuntuguide.org
[11:15] <Subsonix> indypende: http://www.ubuntux.org/node/129
[11:15] <crov> ompaul: thnx i am installing this, as mysqlcc is no more in devolepment...
[11:15] <cevizoglu> xukun, that looks good, not sure what's going wrong then
[11:15] <topyli> hume: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:15] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: depends on the computer and card. I know it worked fine for me.
[11:15] <hume> topyli, that's it?
[11:15] <xukun> cevizoglu, hmm
[11:15] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: also, fglrx may have certain distribution restrictions.
[11:15] <sudeep> I ran "cat /proc/cpuinfo" It gave me cpu family: 5 . Can I use linux-586 kernel found on a debian site?
[11:15] <Mattias> [Chameleon] , atleast for ati radeon x600 cards :P :)
[11:16] <[Chameleon] > sudeep: what's the Model Name?
[11:16] <azertyuuu> indypende https://wiki.ubuntu.com//
[11:16] <topyli> hume: yes. it doesn't remove gnome though
[11:16] <nalioth> azertyuuu: please dont blindly advise ubuntuguide in here
[11:16] <Bieleke> sudeep, just install the kernel with synaptic
[11:16] <azertyuuu> nalioth, why ? please explain ?
[11:16] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[11:16] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:16] <Bieleke> anyone for the remote /home ?
[11:16] <Mattias> so. how do i get new programs, like amaroK, thunderbird, and stuff? and how do i do to get em to the latest
[11:16] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: synaptic
[11:17] <Bieleke> Mattias, add rep to synaptic
[11:17] <azertyuuu> SORRY FOR MY DUMBNESS
[11:17] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: otherwise, compile from source
[11:17] <sudeep> synaptic has only 386 and 686 kernels
[11:17] <topyli> Mattias: breezy has pretty recent stuff already
[11:17] <nalioth> azertyuuu: ignorance is not dumbness. ignorance can be overcome, dumbness is forever
[11:17] <Subsonix> Mattias: search function at www.ubuntux.org
[11:17] <sudeep> model:8
[11:17] <[Chameleon] > sudeep: what CPU do you have? Pentium Pro?
[11:17] <[Chameleon] > sudeep: I want the model name
[11:17] <Mattias> topyli, so. if i want the game, for example "The Mana World" how would i do?
[11:18] <[Chameleon] > sudeep: the full string
[11:18] <sudeep> [Chameleon] :AMD K-6 -2 (3d) 450 Mhz CPU
[11:18] <azertyuuu> !grub
[11:18] <cevizoglu> sudeep: synaptic has a wider variety of kernels than just 386 and 686, i.e. ppc and amd64
[11:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:18] <iceman64> Something is toasted ... HELP ... cannot start gnome or kde ... log in and it starts and goes right back to a login screen ... im in failsafe now
[11:18] <xukun> what app. do I need to install if want to do: play -d /dev/dsp[0,1]  /usr/share/sounds/startup.ogg
[11:18] <[Chameleon] > sudeep: use the 386 kernel.
[11:18] <cevizoglu> sudeep: actually, synaptic contains whatever your repositories point to
[11:19] <iceman64> what did i toast ... HELP ..
[11:19] <nalioth> xukun: perhaps mpg321?
[11:19] <Pinaraf> hi
[11:19] <topyli> Mattias: looks like there are no ubuntu packages. this you would have to get from the game's home page and hope they have clear installation instructions :)
[11:19] <sudeep> the 386 kernel seems to run very slow. Compared to other linux distros that i've tried, that use 586.
[11:19] <Pinaraf> when does the development of ubuntu 6.04 begins ?
[11:20] <nalioth> Pinaraf: any time now
[11:20] <hooch> does breezy have a tv viewer program?
[11:20] <Mattias> topyli, bah :P gentoo seems to have more support for this kinda stuff :P is there no way to or no resp that got even more stuff in it?
[11:20] <nalioth> hooch: yes it does
[11:20] <iceman64> Anyone good at remote rebuild or am i going to have to reinstall
[11:20] <azertyuuu> !television
[11:20] <ubotu> azertyuuu: Are you on ritalin?
[11:20] <Pinaraf> nalioth: and when will the repository appear ?
[11:20] <nalioth> Mattias: you've enabled universe and multiverse?
[11:20] <topyli> Mattias: what's the package name in gentoo?
[11:20] <nalioth> Pinaraf: your guess is as good as mine on that one
[11:20] <Pinaraf> ok
[11:20] <Mattias> topyli, in gentoo its tmw
[11:21] <Subsonix> why isn't universe and multiverse enabled by default?
[11:21] <iceman64> updated my gnome system ... lot of packages ... but now no gnome sessions  and no kde sessions all i got is failsafe
[11:21] <nalioth> Subsonix: legal reasons
[11:21] <hooch> nalioth: what's the tv app called?
[11:21] <Mattias> nalioth, ill check that. whats the diffrence?
[11:21] <nalioth> hooch: xawtv i believe
[11:21] <damienK> how can I remove the CD from the apt-get list
[11:21] <cevizoglu> !tell damienK about repositories
[11:21] <topyli> Mattias: the project's home page has debian packages. they might work
[11:21] <nalioth> Mattias: universe and multiverse contain almost the same pkgs as debian has
[11:22] <Mattias> topyli, nice ill check it
[11:22] <Mattias> nalioth, im using both
[11:22] <topyli> Mattias: they even have a repository so you can make it apt-gettable
[11:22] <iceman64> I toasted something... now i get no gnome and no kde ... i could only start failsafe ...
[11:22] <purserj> RezDawg: Sorry, got called away, have you checked to see if the dvdrecord package
[11:22] <Mattias> topyli, ah, i gotta check that
[11:23] <purserj> RezDawg: is installed
[11:23] <Severian> damienK, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # at the beginning of that line.
[11:23] <iceman64> the options for kde and gnome are present .. but something wint wwrong
[11:23] <topyli> Mattias: if you're unlucky, it won't install on ubuntu. then you'd use the source repository and build your own ubuntu packages with a couple of simple commands
[11:23] <damienK> cevizoglu, thats all well but I dont have X access, I need to remove it via console
[11:23] <xukun> which application does play command belongs?
[11:23] <damienK> Severian, thx
[11:23] <RezDawg> purserj: something called dvdrtools is what it said was close
[11:23] <cevizoglu> damienK, sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <damienK> cevizoglu, thx got it
[11:23] <cevizoglu> damienK, or sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list if you don't like vim
[11:23] <xukun> or beter how can I find that out
[11:24] <xukun> ?
[11:24] <Mattias> topyli, where did u find the resp?
[11:24] <damienK> vi is ok
[11:24] <topyli> Mattias: then of course you'd begin supporting it for ubuntu universe :)
[11:24] <nalioth> iceman64: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[11:24] <topyli> Mattias: http://themanaworld.org/downloads.php
[11:24] <Mattias> topyli, ty :)
[11:24] <andi> url to forum?
[11:24] <RezDawg> purserj: i have a an image file now, what do you use to burn the image file?
[11:25] <iceman64> nalioth this is a ubuntu issue ,, not just kde ... i cannot start gnome ...
[11:25] <nalioth> topyli: can you tell Mattias about compiling it from source repos?
[11:25] <ztonzy> hmm any good tip for user to let write access to XP partitions (forgot how to set fstab correct)
[11:25] <nalioth> iceman64: the channel name has nothing to regulate what goes on in it
[11:25] <purserj> k3b is what I use
[11:25] <ztonzy> !xp access
[11:25] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ztonzy
[11:25] <[Chameleon] > ztonzy: tip: don't
[11:25] <[Chameleon] > !tell ztonzy about NTFS
[11:25] <ztonzy> [Chameleon] , I use of for games sometimes
[11:25] <topyli> nalioth: i'd prefer seeing if the binaries fail first. but i can of course give him the apt commands for building
[11:25] <nalioth> iceman64: i can help you in #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:25] <ztonzy> [Chameleon] , I use fat32
[11:26] <nalioth> topyli: debian binaries are not ubuntu binaries
[11:26] <[Chameleon] > ztonzy: ah, OK, then it's good.
[11:26] <sudeep> Can I just try instal the 686 kernel on my machine?
[11:26] <[Chameleon] > ztonzy: FAT32 is not an XP exclusive FS
[11:26] <topyli> nalioth: true enough. sometimes you get lucky though. this is a game, not many packages depend on it :)
[11:26] <ztonzy> [Chameleon] , oh really :-P ?
[11:26] <Bieleke> sudeep, only advisable when having more than 1 gig mem
[11:26] <[Chameleon] > sudeep: sure, if you want to fsck it up. Just don't have that be youru ONLY kernel.
[11:27] <Bieleke> sudeep, the 386 kernel is optimized, so no need to do that
[11:27] <[Chameleon] > sudeep: on that machine, it's not going to gain you anything.
[11:27] <hooch> thanks nalioth
[11:27] <melvztechie> guys: what player do i need so i can view movies on firefox browser directly?
[11:27] <nalioth> topyli: not a good precedent for new ubuntu users, tho
[11:27] <damienK> how can I rectify this? --> http://pastebot.nd.edu/24
[11:27] <RezDawg> purserj: under what burn a data dvd?
[11:27] <Mattias> ye. u was right, i got error when trying to install it, tmw: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:28] <topyli> nalioth: that's true as well
[11:28] <Bieleke> how can i point my home to another linux-box that acts as server ?
[11:28] <[Chameleon] > melvztechie: try gxine
[11:28] <topyli> Mattias: so, enable the source repository and use these commands to build:
[11:28] <sudeep> melvztechie: Mplayer works for me
[11:28] <HappyFool> heh. ubuntu kernel has ide support as a module.
[11:28] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: NFS
[11:28] <topyli> Mattias: apt-get update (of course), apt-get build-depend tmw, apt-get -b source tmw
[11:28] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: For some reason NFS mounting is very slow in Ubuntu though.
[11:29] <topyli> Mattias: you should end up with packages
[11:29] <purserj> RezDawg: No, go Tools->DVD->Burn DVD ISO image
[11:29] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: of course, it could just be that my server is running Fedora Core 3
[11:29] <nalioth> Bieleke: nfs
[11:29] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: too late, old man
[11:29] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: ;P
[11:29] <derchilligephil|> yeah, soon i have copy all my data from all ntfs to ext jfs reiser :)
[11:29] <topyli> Mattias: oh, you need to install build-essential first
[11:29] <derchilligephil|> 500 gb hard job
[11:29] <derchilligephil|> bu in 1 hour i will got it
[11:29] <melvztechie> okey guys, will try those packages: tanks
[11:30] <derchilligephil|> really nice support, thx!
[11:30] <Mattias> topyli, noticed :P apt-get build-depend tmw didnt work lol
[11:30] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: good luck with that... don't come crying when reiser corrupts your data.
[11:30] <Severian> !RestrictedFormats
[11:30] <ubotu> I heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[11:30] <topyli> Mattias: yeah
[11:30] <Bieleke> there is an article about shfs, it that better than nfs ?
[11:30] <nalioth> Mattias: did you put the deb-src line from that site into your sources list?
[11:30] <derchilligephil|> what should i else use?
[11:30] <Mattias> nalioth, yup
[11:30] <derchilligephil|> is reiserfs not food ?
[11:30] <nalioth> topyli: Mattias: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[11:30] <derchilligephil|> good
[11:30] <derchilligephil|> im not that expert in this :)
[11:30] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: I've heard it's unstable and tends to corrupt
[11:30] <topyli> Mattias: lets do as nalioth says, this is getting off topic
[11:31] <derchilligephil|> uhh
[11:31] <derchilligephil|> what
[11:31] <derchilligephil|> what should i else use?
[11:31] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: could be different now though
[11:31] <ompaul> derchilligephil|, ext3
[11:31] <jareth_> anybody know how I can mount an external usb drive with hfs+ on it?
[11:31] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: ext3 is good
[11:31] <derchilligephil|> yeah i use this for system and home data
[11:31] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: ext3 is adequate for you
[11:31] <derchilligephil|> but i have musik on reiserfs
[11:31] <derchilligephil|> very much music
[11:31] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: I've used ext3 on all my systems since it became generally available, and was using ext2 prior.
[11:32] <derchilligephil|> and working fast?
[11:32] <jareth_> will it be recognized?
[11:32] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: fast enough. you're going to saturate 100mbit connection before you run into filesystem performance limits
[11:32] <derchilligephil|> i have on 1 gigabit ! :)
[11:32] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: if you're on gigabit, then maybe there's a point to more performance.
[11:33] <derchilligephil|> so come one hehe
[11:33] <derchilligephil|> on
[11:33] <Severian> derchilligephil, I'd use Reiser 3 probably.  But, maybe xfs.  I don't like ext3, but not everyone agrees.
[11:33] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: well, still... it's not going to be much difference.
[11:33] <derchilligephil|> i let it now as it is
[11:33] <iceman64> channel again
[11:33] <derchilligephil|> dont have so much time
[11:33] <derchilligephil|> take long to transfer 500 gigs from one hd to another
[11:33] <derchilligephil|> or to others :)
[11:33] <derchilligephil|> mhh
[11:34] <iceman64> what was that ubuntu off topic chammel
[11:34] <RezDawg> purserj: im trying it now, hope it works, what if i had audio_ts and video_ts on the HD, what do you do in linux to make iso?
[11:34] <derchilligephil|> ok finally i hope that the reiserfs is not fucking up my collection :)
[11:34] <[Chameleon] > iceman64: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:34] <derchilligephil|> i spend in years in it :)
[11:34] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: you'll probably be fine
[11:34] <derchilligephil|> i hope :)
[11:34] <jareth_> anybody?
[11:34] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: if you were really worried, you'd have raid striping with parity
[11:35] <derchilligephil|> yeah, but i have no time no for a second hd :)
[11:35] <[Chameleon] > jareth_: should be recognized. try it and let us know. ;)
[11:35] <derchilligephil|> a raid controller is availabe
[11:35] <derchilligephil|> maybe i will set it ip in 2-3 month :)
[11:35] <jareth_> i will.. is a small problem atm.
[11:35] <[Chameleon] > then maybe your data will be assured in 2-3 months.
[11:35] <jareth_> came frome a broken i-book.
[11:35] <Severian> derchilligephil, if it is valuable data, investr in 20 blank dvd-r disks and make a backup set.
[11:35] <derchilligephil|> hehe yeah
[11:35] <[Chameleon] > Severian: no kidding
[11:35] <jareth_> I did notice the hfd-tools package already
[11:36] <derchilligephil|> yeah maybe i will do a backup one time
[11:36] <derchilligephil|> hehe
[11:36] <derchilligephil|> no risk no fun
[11:36] <jareth_> 1st need to get usb cable.
[11:36] <derchilligephil|> is there a way to get some info about a file transer in the console
[11:36] <derchilligephil|> ive made a mv command
[11:36] <jareth_> no firewire available at old toshiba sattelite
[11:37] <derchilligephil|> and now he moves
[11:37] <derchilligephil|> but i cant see how far he is
[11:37] <jareth_> i use mv -v
[11:37] <derchilligephil|> ah, now its to late, he ? :)
[11:37] <Severian> jareth_, I have no idea, but I will have access to stuff tomorrow night to try it.  Are you in a hurry?
[11:38] <jareth_> not really
[11:38] <jareth_> is lying around for half a year now
[11:38] <jareth_> do like the 160 GB space!!!
[11:38] <test> still same problem ... kde and gnome will not start ... they attempt to .. but i get returned to a login screen after a few seconds
[11:39] <jareth_> but thanks Severian. can you let me know on winston.niles@gmail.com?
[11:39] <Severian> test, do you know what a virtual console is?
[11:39] <fandekimi> bonjour, je suis un utilisateur francais de ubuntu. quelqu'un peut-il m'aider ?
[11:40] <SpudULike> Hi room.  'Applications -> System Tools -> New Login' doesn't seem to do anything on my Breezy machine.  How do I get to start a new login for a different user?
[11:40] <purserj> RezDawg: You can use k3b to create the image as well. File->New Project->New Video DVD
[11:40] <Sionide> could do it from a different tty ?
[11:40] <Severian> jareth_, I'll try.  I saved the email address, but I am not at a good machine right now for email.  If you don't hear from me, check back here mid-week.
[11:40] <RezDawg> purserj: ty
[11:41] <jareth_> SpudLike try sudo apt-get install xnest
[11:41] <Sionide> SpudULike, press Ctrl+Alt+F6 - login and run the "gdm" command
[11:41] <brownie17> does anyone know if the breezy servers support resume?
[11:41] <RezDawg> purserj: you've been a great help freeing me form windoze
[11:41] <jareth_> Severian: realy thanks a lot! Any how we will get back on this issue
[11:41] <corincole> no
[11:41] <fandekimi> hello ! does anybody speak french ?
[11:41] <nalioth> !fr
[11:41] <ubotu> fr is probably Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:42] <corincole> can someone tell me the command to start gui from command-line?
[11:42] <brownie17> fandekimi, /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:42] <corincole> anyone?
[11:42] <setho> hi
[11:42] <brownie17> corincole, to start giu?
[11:42] <brownie17> gui*
[11:43] <corincole> yeah
[11:43] <brownie17> what do you mean. gui stands for grpahical user interface, the GUI for what exactly?
[11:43] <Severian> corincole,   startx
[11:43] <corincole> for ubuntu!
[11:43] <jareth_> SpudLike with xnest you will find in th emenu login in nested window
[11:43] <corincole> Severian, startx didnt seem to work
[11:43] <corincole> and yesterday, Seveas gave me a long phrase to use, which Ive forgotten
[11:44] <ompaul> corincole, was it sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:45] <corincole> dont think so ompaul...
[11:45] <corincole> it ended with startx
[11:45] <corincole> but that wasnt all
[11:45] <xukun> I,m having a lot of distortion with skpye. and if I call somebody I hear them but they dont hear me. Anybody having the same problem?
[11:45] <melchior_thomas> any autoreboot on the ubuntu server ppc
[11:45] <Severian> corincole,  startx is what starts the gui.  But, if you have messed it up in some way, the reconfigure takes you back through the setup.  It sounds like you need that.
[11:45] <SpudULike> jareth_: Sorry, struggling to find this emenu login.  Where would it be nested?
[11:46] <p0windah> xukun: if you are using spekers and a seperate mic. that can happen
[11:47] <ompaul> corincole, go look at this - find the log for today/yesterday remember that the time on the file may not be the time in your country  http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[11:47] <Severian> corincole, you might try sudo startx.  I've never tried to start it manually in Ubuntu, but I have done it lots of times in RedHat and Mandrake.
[11:47] <corincole> k
[11:47] <corincole> thanks
[11:47] <xukun> p0windah, I hate to say but this doesnt happen if I use windows
[11:47] <tbaa> hi
[11:47] <xukun> so no it doesnt happen
[11:47] <jareth_> SPudULike look at applications / system-tools / login in nested window
[11:47] <Severian> xukun, I have a skype setup.  Did you get a volunteer yet?
[11:48] <NixNewby> How do I see what version of Ubuntyu im running?
[11:48] <xukun> Severian, volunteer? no
[11:49] <NixNewby> *Ubuntu
[11:49] <KenSentMe> hi, i've installed skype using this HowTo : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto on 2 different machines, but when i try to type my password it's stops at the charachters like # and $. So, i can't loginwith my password that works for Windows
[11:49] <HappyFool> 'lsb_release -r' on the command-line, or system -> about ubuntu
[11:49] <jareth_> SpudULike: you got it working?
[11:49] <SpudULike> jareth_: I did apt-get xnest but I do not have 'login' in my menu, only 'New login' which does nothing.
[11:49] <p0windah> kennethlove: have you checked/searched the skype forums ?
[11:50] <xukun> Severian, which setup?
[11:50] <StarKruzr> hey guys, if I apt-get install xubuntu will it automagically deselect metacity for me and install and configure xfce?
[11:50] <p0windah> KenSentMe: have you checked/searched the skype forums ?
[11:50] <jareth_> SpudULike: new login in nested window is the menu-entry
[11:50] <NixNewby> Hey Im on an OLD version I dont have a SYSTEM menu
[11:50] <p0windah> kennethlove: sorry
[11:50] <KenSentMe> p0windah, yes, but i didn't find somethin there
[11:50] <p0windah> KenSentMe: submit a bug report to the skype guys
[11:50] <KenSentMe> p0windah, i asked it earlier here, but i thought it might be because i'm on a laptop, but now it's on my second desktop system too
[11:51] <RezDawg> NixNewby: i use cntrl+alt+f1 to take down the gui and then cntrl+alt+f7 afterward to bring it back up
[11:51] <Severian> xukun, My skype is not on Ubuntu.  What is your skype name, so I can allow you to call me?
[11:51] <SpudULike> jareth_: Ah, maybe I need to do something first. I have created another user but do I need to do anything else to the account to allow them to log in by this xnest method?
[11:51] <jareth_> NixNewby:  type in any terminal uname -a
[11:51] <p0windah> KenSentMe: submit bug report to skype guys, or go into windows and change your password to use standard alphanumeric characters
[11:51] <jareth_> SpudULike: nope
[11:51] <NixNewby> how can I upgrade from 4.10 to latest?
[11:52] <bradd> hey guys.. I'm having a problem getting some standard stuff 'like libttf' (using breezy) .. anyone know of any extras/backports sites are up for breezy?
[11:52] <jareth_> SpudULike: do 1st:  sudo kill gnome-panel
[11:52] <SpudULike> Hmm, nothing comes from 'New login' then, no further options.
[11:52] <jareth_> SpudULike: and look again in th emenu
[11:52] <corincole> ompaul, i just remembered it was over pm, i doubt u have my pm logs?
[11:52] <corincole> :P
[11:52] <RezDawg> jareth_: wont that just show which kernel he is running?
[11:52] <NixNewby> Is there an update howto from 4.10?
[11:52] <StarKruzr> NixNewby: by a process similar to this: (nsfw) http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php?date=2005-10-05&res=l
[11:52] <SpudULike> jareth_: Excuse my ignorance, what is emenu?#
[11:52] <xukun> Severian, lets do that on privet
[11:53] <jareth_> yep thats true sorr
[11:53] <Madpilot> !+breezy
[11:53] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:53] <Madpilot> NixNewby: see ubotu above ^^^
[11:53] <slibs> hello
[11:53] <NixNewby> Why Am i using WART?
[11:53] <jareth_> but when login in he should get log-in message
[11:53] <Severian> xukun, I am fairly new to irc.  What do I do?
[11:53] <RezDawg> 4.10=wart
[11:53] <slibs> is there a way to open (and umount automaticly ) cdrom from terminal
[11:53] <jareth_> SPudULike look at applications / system-tools / new login in nested window
[11:53] <NixNewby> Thats for people upgrading from Hoary im using Warty
[11:54] <StarKruzr> hey guys, if I apt-get install xubuntu will it automagically deselect metacity for me and install and configure xfce?
[11:54] <RezDawg> just change warty to breezy
[11:54] <slibs> i mean open the cd-drive
[11:54] <p0windah> StarKruzr: should
[11:54] <xukun> Severian, I have no idea either
[11:54] <StarKruzr> p0windah, thanks
[11:54] <jareth_> see you later
[11:54] <StarKruzr> I think I'm gonna give it a try
[11:55] <Severian> xukun, let me try something.
[11:55] <xukun> guys who do I start a prive chat with somebody else?
[11:55] <p0windah> ??
[11:55] <slibs> why do you haveto private?
[11:55] <xukun> Severian, my firewall or yours will not let that
[11:55] <zaydana> is there any way apart from sudo to gain root user privileges in ubuntu?
[11:56] <nalioth> zaydana: sure there is
[11:56] <Severian> I assume he wants to keep his skype id private.
[11:56] <nalioth> zaydana: but it's not advised
[11:56] <zaydana> cos i accidentally chown'd the /etc/suduers to be owned by a non-root account, now i can't sudo at all :( so i can't chown either
[11:56] <ekto> hi, anyone know who i should talk to about someone trying to sell ubuntu on ebay?
[11:56] <p0windah> who wants to test skype again ?
[11:56] <p0windah> I'm bored and dont mind dishing out my id
[11:56] <zaydana> nalioth, could u tell me any of them? pretty please :)
[11:57] <samu2> How do you transfer files between an ubuntu and an XP computer?
[11:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zaydana about root
[11:57] <StarKruzr> samu2: what have you tried so far?
[11:57] <Severian> ekto, as long as they are honest about it, I believe selling it is allowed.
[11:58] <StarKruzr> nothing stopping anyone from selling Ubuntu
[11:58] <StarKruzr> it's Free software
[11:59] <StarKruzr> the assumption is that if you sell it to someone you're going to support it for them, but if someone is going to sell a Free distro to someone for $50 and not promise them anything, that's pretty low but the GPL doesn't stop them
[11:59] <zaydana> nalioth, problem is - to get root access with all those methods
[11:59] <zaydana> u need to use sudo in the first place :(
[11:59] <KenSentMe> p0windah, i thought of the idea to change my password, but that's not the right solution to the problem is it?
[11:59] <nalioth> zaydana: then i guess you have to use sudo at least once
[12:00] <NixNewby> I am having trouble upgrading using synaptic, anyone have a good sources list i can borrow?
[12:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell NixNewby about sources
[12:00] <corincole> ive installed ntfstools , how can I run it?
[12:00] <ekto> severian, nowhere do they mention that it is free
[12:00] <samu2> StarKruzr, nothing yet.
[12:00] <zaydana> nalioth - problem is, i screwed sudo up
[12:00] <corincole> or is there a better way to view files on my windows partition?
[12:00] <nalioth> corincole: what do you want to do to your ntfs partition?
[12:00] <p0windah> KenSentMe: no its not, but its probably faster than emailing the skype guys and waiting for a patch
[12:00] <corincole> nalioth: open/edit files on it
[12:00] <corincole> and use wine to run programs from it
[12:01] <zaydana> nalioth, i modified the /etc/sudoers file so its owned by me on accident, now sudo just dies with an error. Do you know if its possible i could change it from a live cd?
[12:01] <StarKruzr> samu2: what I tried was installing a GNOME SMB browser
[12:01] <zaydana> or even better, is there a repair mode on the install cd?
[12:01] <StarKruzr> and it sort of worked, but not really
[12:01] <nalioth> corincole: you are gonna blow up your ntfs partition
[12:01] <ekto> im just annoyed to know that this dodgy bastard is going to rip off some poor person
[12:01] <Xaios> Is there a way to release/renew my IP address? I cant seem to find an option to do so in network configuration
[12:01] <StarKruzr> it complained about "smbmnt needs to be installed suid root" or something
[12:01] <corincole> nalioth, cant i access windows files somehow?
[12:01] <samu2> StarKruzr, ack, I like stuff that just works.
[12:01] <ekto> he's been selling blender3d and other free software aswell
[12:01] <nalioth> zaydana: boot to the rescue mode
[12:01] <NixNewby> K that didnt help at all, Like I was saying anyone have a good BREEZY sources list so I can upgrade from warty?
[12:01] <p0windah> StarKruzr: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:02] <StarKruzr> if anyone here is a Samba-on-Ubuntu wizard, please let us know.
[12:02] <zaydana> ah k
[12:02] <nalioth> corincole: read-only is the safe way. writing to ntfs can lead to partition loss
[12:02] <StarKruzr> p0windah: does that mean that after a shutdown -r now it should have worked too?  because it didn't
[12:02] <NixNewby> I allready know how to enable universe and multivers
[12:02] <corincole> how can i do read-only then?
[12:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell NixNewby about upgrade2breezy
[12:02] <p0windah> StarKruzr: if it didnt, check the settings of your dhcp server
[12:02] <nalioth> NixNewby: and that sources list WAS for breezy
[12:02] <NixNewby> I have allready read that
[12:03] <p0windah> StarKruzr: its possible your dhcp server has leased the ip to your mac for X days/hours
[12:03] <samu2> I think somebody should put something in the wiki about transfering files between ubuntu and XP on a lan. Last time I read a page about samba it didnt help me much at all.
[12:03] <NixNewby> nalioth the bot gave me intructions on enabling multivers and universe
[12:03] <RezDawg> purserj: hooad, it worked, i just finished burning and put it in the dvdplayer and bam, thanks again
[12:03] <nalioth> NixNewby: hmmm, the bot told you about a full breezy sources.list
[12:03] <StarKruzr> um
[12:03] <NixNewby> nalioth, and I went through and changed the repositories to say Breezy instead of stable and it broke
[12:04] <ponk> is ubuntu a good distro for a newb ??
[12:04] <StarKruzr> what should the IP have to do with whether or not smb works?
[12:04] <slibs> is there a command to eject my cd-rom from the drive
[12:04] <StarKruzr> ponk: yes
[12:04] <aboe> slibs, its called eject
[12:04] <syn-ack> StarKruzr: nothing
[12:04] <syn-ack> StarKruzr: SMB uses NetBIOS
[12:04] <ponk> its debian based, and /u herd debian us hard...
[12:04] <RezDawg> ponk: im only got a couple weeks on ubuntu and its been great
[12:04] <mattt> is there no /etc/ubuntu-release?
[12:04] <aboe> but first umount the disk
[12:04] <RezDawg> ponk: about a month on linux period
[12:05] <slibs> aboe: :D i thoght it would be like ej or something since unix doesn't use terms as copy or move :D
[12:05] <ponk> ubuntu is your first distro?
[12:05] <cyphase> hey everyone
[12:05] <RezDawg> ponk: no, second
[12:05] <aboe> slibs, I know some linux commands are abbreviations..others just plain text
[12:05] <ponk> I asked if its any good as first distro... :-)
[12:05] <RezDawg> ponk: i like it alot, since im a noob to linux its been great as well as people in here with my noob problems
[12:06] <mattt> how do i see which version i'm running?
[12:06] <aboe> it's fun though did some playing on somebody elses pc, with ssh login...eject his disks, and played some mp3's he was amazed that was possible
[12:06] <slibs> anyway it seems it doesn't want to eject it
[12:06] <corincole> so how can I view files on my windows version?
[12:06] <NixNewby> Aww ya can use Apt-get to do it
[12:06] <NixNewby> that works
[12:06] <aboe> maybe you need sudo rights...or unmount the disk first...
[12:06] <ponk> well, if its your second distro than I'm a lot more noob than you
[12:06] <corincole> so how can I view files on my windows version?
[12:06] <aboe> slibs, sudo eject?? or first sudo umount disk
[12:07] <RezDawg> ponk: the first one i tried i was one only few days and had video cards problems that i couldnt fix
[12:07] <corincole> so how can I view files on my windows version?
[12:07] <NixNewby> How long wil an upgrade from warty take on a good connection?
[12:07] <RezDawg> ponk: so even though this is my second ive learned most things here
[12:07] <ponk> ok... I guess I'll try ubuntu... breezy?
[12:07] <RezDawg> ponk: breezy
[12:07] <slibs> tryed both, but it just says that device is busy
[12:07] <ponk> whats the katest?
[12:07] <ponk> *latest
[12:08] <RezDawg> ponk: roger
[12:08] <corincole> how can I view files on my windows version?  :)
[12:08] <ponk> stable?
[12:08] <RezDawg> corincole: sudo nautilus
[12:08] <aboe> slibs, is there some programm running in the back that uses...the disk...check with gnome-system-monitor...
[12:08] <RezDawg> ponk: roger
[12:08] <ponk> roger is stable?
[12:08] <aboe> automount sometimes interferes...
[12:08] <RezDawg> ponk: yes its stable
[12:08] <corincole> RezDaug: that doesnt show stuff from different partitions...
[12:09] <slibs> aboe: too late i already shut the drive off, and then turn back on
[12:09] <mattt> is it possible to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10?
[12:09] <aboe> that works too
[12:09] <aboe> hahaha
[12:09] <slibs> :D
[12:09] <RezDawg> corincole: that will allow you to read other partitions
[12:09] <corincole> how?
[12:09] <ponk> so whats breezy? I herd it came out not long ago...
[12:09] <aboe> slibs, if all fails..pull the plug right??
[12:09] <slibs> latest ubuntu
[12:09] <slibs> aboe: yeah :D
[12:09] <Severian> ponk, Breezy Badger is Ubuntu 5.10
[12:09] <corincole> RezDawg: how can I view other partitions?
[12:10] <slibs> but it's actually usb/firewire dvd-drive, so it's not a big deal to turn it off :D
[12:10] <nalioth> RezDawg: please dont advise sudo nautilus
[12:10] <ponk> and roger?
[12:10] <aboe> slibs, so long as it works...and be amazed that it doesn't crash..
[12:10] <RezDawg> corincole: sudo nautilus will allow you the have permission to read other partitions
[12:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell corincole about mountwindows
[12:10] <corincole> RezDawg: where are other partitons found in Nautilus?
[12:10] <RezDawg> nalioth: that is what someone in here told me, if theres another way please tell me
[12:10] <co0kie-DK> Anyone knows how to make a Logitech MX1000 to work?
[12:11] <slibs> corincole: /media/
[12:11] <nalioth> RezDawg: sudo nautilus creates more problems
[12:11] <slibs> corincole: if they are properly configured
[12:11] <aboe> slibs, I tried it with an ide-cdrom...just pulled the ide-cable it works too, but you can't plug it back in...and hope it finds it again...
[12:11] <nalioth> RezDawg: has corincole mounted his windows partitions?
[12:11] <RezDawg> nalioth: i can see how but what other way is there
[12:11] <Xaios> Yay! I now know ifdown and ifup
[12:11] <Xaios> Google is my friend :)
[12:12] <slibs> aboe: i dont think i never had this problem with ide-drive
[12:12] <corincole> slibs: no, it doesnt seem to be mounted...  how can I mount it?
[12:12] <nalioth> corincole: read what ubotu sent you
[12:12] <nalioth> corincole: the bot doesnt talk to you for fun
[12:12] <slibs> corincole: is it a windows partition?(ntfs or fat?)
[12:12] <corincole> ntfs
[12:12] <nalioth> slibs: corincole has the answer in a private msg from ubotu
[12:12] <slibs> easiest way is to download winmac_fstab script
[12:12] <guiss> how do i install libmad0 on ubuntu 5.10?
[12:12] <NixNewby> God Gnome is AWESOME at 1280x1024
[12:12] <nalioth> corincole: read your ubotu private msg please
[12:12] <slibs> nalioth: roger
[12:13] <purserj> RezDawg: no prob
[12:13] <corincole> nalioth, can I pm you for help with that?
[12:13] <corincole> :)
[12:13] <Xaios> Gnome is awesome at 1680x1050 too :)
[12:13] <nalioth> corincole: you may join #kubuntu-offtopic  for help
[12:13] <[Chameleon] > NixNewby, Xaios: try it at 2560x1024. :)
[12:13] <corincole> ok
[12:13] <NixNewby> Too small of text to see from my bed at that high of a res
[12:13] <slibs> NixNewby: no it's not, god watching movies with mplayer as colored ascii with 1280x1024 "unixresolution", that is AWESOME
[12:13] <nalioth> RezDawg: if the partitions arent mounted, all the sudo nautilus in the world aint gonna find em
[12:14] <Xaios> I cant set it any higher via screen resolution preferences? :(
[12:14] <nalioth> RezDawg: when nautilus gets root powers, it has a bad habit of trashin the userspace
[12:14] <StarKruzr> ow.
[12:14] <[Chameleon] > NixNewby: I'm running on two 17" monitors about 1 foot in front of my face
[12:14] <RezDawg> nalioth: that is what someone in here told me, if theres another way please tell me so i wont run inot probs
[12:14] <Bieleke> ask it again cause it's still not clear to me
[12:14] <ponk> ubuntu is only one cd ?!?!
[12:15] <[Chameleon] > NixNewby: http://www.geekswebhosting.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=88
[12:15] <slibs> yeah
[12:15] <Bieleke> can i have my /home on a remote linux-server ?
[12:15] <Bieleke> on the lan ofcourse
[12:15] <[Chameleon] > ponk: yes, only 1 CD or 1 DVD
[12:15] <ponk> how come?? all other disrtos are like 3-5 cds
[12:15] <nalioth> RezDawg: join #kubuntu-offtopic and learn
[12:15] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: WTF, we already told you to use NFS.
[12:15] <RezDawg> nalioth: im there already
[12:15] <Xaios> awesome setup Chameleon!
[12:15] <[Chameleon] > Xaios: thx
[12:15] <slibs> Bieleke: check www.ubuntuguide.org at the bottom where is samba tutorials
[12:16] <[Chameleon] > Xaios: that video is actually playing between both monitors. Xinerama rocks.
[12:16] <ponk> how come ubuntu is one cd and other distros are 3-5 cds ?
[12:16] <[Chameleon] > ponk: because we're better.
[12:16] <Xaios> Chameleon what is that OSX dock looking thing?
[12:16] <ponk> lol... what do they have that ubuntu dont?
[12:17] <[Chameleon] > ponk: seriously though, the initial install is pretty sparse... But all sorts of software (way more than 5 CDs worth) is available through apt-get.
[12:17] <[Chameleon] > Xaios: Starter-Bar gDesklet
[12:17] <slibs> ponk: you don't actually need all the cd's from other distros
[12:17] <Severian> ponk, judicious selection of packages is part of it.  Also, Ubuntu depends upon online repositories for less used packages.
[12:17] <[Chameleon] > Xaios: it grows like the OS X one, too.
[12:17] <ponk> oh, ok... and is it easy to install? graphical wizards and stuff?
[12:17] <slibs> no
[12:17] <slibs> amm
[12:17] <Xaios> It will be the first thing I install :)
[12:17] <[Chameleon] > ponk: easy: yes; graphical: no.
[12:17] <slibs> i mean, it's easy to install :D
[12:18] <[Chameleon] > Xaios: yep, it rocks. The monitors on the right side are all gDesklets as well.
[12:18] <ponk> what? command line installation?
[12:18] <Xaios> How would I obtain them?
[12:18] <Xaios> apt-get ???
[12:18] <[Chameleon] > ponk: it's an ncurses based UI
[12:18] <Xaios> Ive had limited experience with Linux
[12:18] <[Chameleon] > ponk: it's a lot like installing Windows XP, actually.
[12:18] <Severian> ponk, Ubuntu uses a textual installer.  It is very easy to use.
[12:18] <Xaios> I managed to get Debian installed once, twas fun
[12:18] <xukun> after a call with skype and then if I want to make other call after then I got the massege "Problem with sound devce" after restarting skype than its ok
[12:18] <ponk> but I need to type in sruff?
[12:19] <[Chameleon] > Xaios: yeah, apt-get has gDesklets. This is all stock stuff.
[12:19] <slibs> ponk: if you go to ubuntu.org there should be screenshots from the whole installation process
[12:19] <Xaios> so apt-get gDesklets?
[12:19] <xukun> it seems that skype does not release the sound card
[12:19] <ponk> ok, I'll check it out. 10x
[12:19] <[Chameleon] > ponk: you need to type in your user-name and password...
[12:19] <ponk> lol... sure
[12:19] <[Chameleon] > ponk: maybe a couple other small things; like machine name.
[12:19] <nnonix> ponk: If you can install the other dists, you can install Ubuntu. The installer isn't as pretty as say Redhat, but its quick simple and very easy.
[12:19] <[Chameleon] > ponk: but it's not hard.
[12:20] <[Chameleon] > Xaios: use synaptic, it's nicer.
[12:20] <[Chameleon] > Xaios: more nice
[12:20] <slibs> i'd say use aptitude if you can
[12:20] <Xaios> synaptic?
[12:20] <Xaios> sorry I am very new
[12:20] <[Chameleon] > slibs: aptitude screws up some times.
[12:21] <[Chameleon] > Xaios: it's a GUI interface to apt-get.
[12:21] <[Chameleon] > Xaios: very nice and easy.
[12:21] <slibs> that's why i said "if you can"
[12:21] <Xaios> Ah even better :)
[12:21] <Xaios> Where is it?
[12:21] <[Chameleon] > Xaios: it's installed by default.
[12:21] <ponk> oh, and can I run xfce on ubuntu? It looks nicer than gnome and KDE...
[12:21] <slibs> Xaios: in terminal type "sudo synaptic"
[12:21] <[Chameleon] > Xaios: System / Administration / Synaptic
[12:21] <[Chameleon] > ponk: yes, you can.
[12:21] <[Chameleon] > ponk: you want xubuntu
[12:21] <Xaios> I found it :) thanks again
[12:21] <[Chameleon] > aye
[12:22] <slibs> Xaios: you can usually open programs like that from terminal if you don't know where they actually are
[12:22] <Severian> ponk, yes.  In fact by next spring, there should be a version of Ubuntu that is primarily xfce.
[12:22] <ponk> what do you meant I want xubuntu???
[12:23] <[Chameleon] > ponk: xubuntu is ubuntu with XFCE all setup purdy.
[12:23] <slibs> any ideas how to make so that ctrl+mouse1 would be same as mouse2, since i'd like to use apple mouse with this machine
[12:23] <[Chameleon] > ponk: you can also just install ubuntu and then install XFCE, but it'll require some configuring.
[12:23] <Severian> ponk, install the normal ubuntu.  Then, add the xubuntu package.
[12:23] <ponk> ok... :-)
[12:23] <[Chameleon] > ponk: like telling it to use XFCE instead of GNOME, but I think GDM handles that.
[12:24] <[Chameleon] > Severian: yeah.
[12:24] <Severian> I don''t remember if the package is actually called xubuntu.  Is it?  That is the name of the project.
[12:24] <ponk> lol... its downloading so fast... I'll be running ubuntu in an hour if everything goes fine :-)
[12:24] <mof_> hi all
[12:25] <slibs> hi only you
[12:25] <nnonix> Severian: xubuntu-desktop
[12:25] <[Chameleon] > slibs: LOL
[12:25] <slibs> what? :D
[12:26] <[Chameleon] > slibs: goofball
[12:26] <[Chameleon] > :)
[12:26] <Severian> ponk, did you see that.  Add the xubuntu-desktop package after installing.
[12:26] <nnonix> xfce looks like CDE
[12:26] <ponk> yeah, I did, thx :-)
[12:27] <StarKruzr> nnonix: it DOES?
[12:27] <StarKruzr> ew
[12:27] <Bieleke> samba:/home/beheer    /home   nfs    rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr
[12:27] <Bieleke> is this a correct line to mount home on a remote server ?
[12:28] <Bieleke> i want to save all data on the remote server so also my settings etc of my local box
[12:28] <Xaios> Hrm anyone suggest a good audio player?
[12:28] <Bieleke> samba is the name of the remote server
[12:28] <Bieleke> Xaios, mplayer
[12:28] <Bieleke> Xaios, or xmms
[12:28] <Xaios> xmms is what I used before if I remember correctly
[12:28] <Xaios> Thanks
[12:29] <Bieleke> np
[12:29] <slibs> yeaterday we had war about good and bad players
[12:29] <Severian> beep-media is  nice.
[12:29] <slibs> im using mp3blaster right now
[12:30] <slibs> good luck
[12:30] <mattt> well, i only installed hoary last night ... so if it doesn't work, ah well :)
[12:30] <slibs> so anyone has ideas how to make so that i can use ctrl+mouse1 as mouse2?
[12:30] <llpamies> I've recently upgraded to breezy, and now my apache htaccess files don't work! Is like it was never readed. Any body knows the solution ?
[12:31] <nnonix> StarKruzr: yes, it does ... but very updated. Just the layout feels like CDE
[12:31] <haffe> Hi, I have this wierd problem. Whenever I try to play a videofile with totem, the sound comes before the video. I have this problem on all my files. What could this be?
[12:31] <RezDawg> can someone tell me the gnomes texteditor is called
[12:31] <Xaios> Hrm where would xmms be installed to? (I need the path so I can point Firefox to the right place)
[12:31] <slibs> haffe: probably the lack of codecs
[12:31] <nnonix> RezDawq: gedit
[12:32] <mattt> Xaios, /usr/bin i'd imagine
[12:32] <[Chameleon] > Xaios: I like the RhythmBox media player.
[12:32] <slibs> haffe: or is that problem only with totem?
[12:32] <Xaios> Thanks mattt
[12:32] <haffe> slibs, I haven't tried any players other than totem.
[12:32] <Xaios> and I will look into RhythBox
[12:33] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: here's an NFS mount line I use:
[12:33] <[Chameleon] > zion:/mnt/aux   /mnt/aux        nfs     defaults,noauto,exec,suid,_netdev,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,user 0 0
[12:33] <RezDawg> nnonix: ty
[12:33] <KPleines> Hi, I have problems playing DVDs with totem.
[12:33] <slibs> it might be something that you have accidently pressed some keys so that totem has adjusted so that the audio isn't sametime as video
[12:33] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: you definitely want to use 'auto' instead of 'noauto'
[12:33] <slibs> KPleines: try xine
[12:33] <nnonix> RezDawq: but then again, I think OSX looks like CDE as well (albeit very updated).
[12:33] <frank_b> how can I access my windows partition from ubuntu?
[12:34] <slibs> it has to be mounted
[12:34] <Xaios> Hrm.. I think Xmms just froze.. hahah :)
[12:34] <Bieleke> yeah, but i want to use my home dir on the server, so i wonder what happens if server is down, does it use my local /home ?
[12:34] <Sturmvogel> frank_b, www.ubuntuguide.com helped me with that
[12:34] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: server down = no home
[12:34] <slibs> Xaios: using wrong sound perhaps? :)
[12:34] <Xaios> Hrm the system start up sound worked though
[12:34] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: NFS will automatically wait for server to come back up for a while tho.
[12:34] <frank_b> Sturmvogel, thanks
[12:34] <nnonix> server down = evicted!
[12:34] <Xaios> Or does that not apply?
[12:34] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: if you have an unstasble server, DO NOT use it for /home.
[12:35] <Severian> Bieleke, that is why making a home directory remote is not a great idea.
[12:35] <slibs> Xaios: try to change esd to alsa or oss from the xmms options
[12:35] <rysiek> hello everybody
[12:35] <Bieleke> well... frustrating
[12:35] <Xaios> xmms wont allow me to do anything, how can I force quit it?
[12:35] <slibs> rysiek: hello only you
[12:35] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: you might consider a distributed file system
[12:35] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: what is your end goal here anyway?
[12:35] <Bieleke> cause if i boot xp, ALL is saved on the remote server, not locally
[12:35] <rysiek> slibs: :)
[12:35] <slibs> Xaios: sudo killall xmms
[12:35] <Bieleke> i want to do the same with my ubuntu box, cause the remote server backs up automaticly
[12:36] <slibs> Xaios: there's also a graphical tool for killing programs
[12:36] <Xaios> No ctrl alt del? :):)!
[12:36] <mattt> xaios:  open a terminal and su -c 'pkill -9 xmms'
[12:36] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: look into a distributed file system or scheduled backups. Check out AMANDA.
[12:36] <Bieleke> so instead of using /home/beheer on ubuntu i want to store everything on the server
[12:36] <slibs> Xaios: i don't know if gnome is setted up so that it would bring up something :)
[12:37] <Xaios> Ok lets try again
[12:37] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: sounds like you just want assured backups.
[12:37] <rysiek> I am quite irritated by the fact, that in (K)Ubuntu, which uses libqt3-mt, almost ALL the programs I want to compile check for libqt3c102-mt
[12:37] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: you don't have to store everything on the server for that
[12:37] <Xaios> slibs: what do I need to setup in the prefs?
[12:37] <blrich> could someone help? wondering if anyone here has tried itunes (4.7) with crossover (4.2) in breezy/hoary. i'm running these on breezy, and i can't seem to getrid of the gnome window borders for the itunes window
[12:37] <Bieleke> but my mail is on that server
[12:38] <Bieleke> so i want thunderbird to look there and not local
[12:38] <slibs> Xaios: change the output plugin
[12:38] <rysiek> I am fed up with trying to get them compile, anybody knows how to trick the ./configure scripts that I actually have libqt3c102-mt installed?
[12:38] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: so what. Try IMAP.
[12:38] <Xaios> ok done lets try again
[12:38] <nnonix> blrich: does iTunes work well tho?
[12:38] <Bieleke> [Chameleon] , mmm that's new to me
[12:38] <rysiek> [same goes for some debian packages, like Skype, but in those I can edit the Depend and they're ok] 
[12:38] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: google is your friend
[12:38] <Bieleke> a howto or doc anywhere ?
[12:38] <Xaios> slibs: throws an error, couldn't open audio
[12:39] <slibs> Xaios: what did you change in there
[12:39] <blrich> nnonix, seems to, just importing my 17gb library now and it's got a blank screen while it sits thinking, but all seems pretty tip top and fast
[12:39] <ajeet> hello, im running totem with the xine engine, with multimedia enabled e.g. mp3, wmvs... but why is it when i click on .mov files on firefox, totem says it can't play it?!
[12:39] <Xaios> slibs: changed from OSS sound driver to ALSA
[12:39] <blrich> nnonix, i've had it work before in gentoo, it's no major triumph getting itunes on linux, but i really wanted to it work as cleanly as it did in gentoo on breezy caus i'm never going back to gentoo
[12:39] <[Chameleon] > blrich: check out Rhythmbox. IIRC it might support AAC.
[12:39] <blrich> nnonix, and sound is the only thing missing for me on ubuntu - that is, music
[12:39] <NixNewby> I was doing apt-get dist-upgrade after i did apt-get update, got to the very end and starting failing to get things!!!??
[12:39] <Bieleke> i really don't get it anymore... a simple thing that is easy as hell in windows seems to be a pain in linux ? that's not logical
[12:40] <nalioth> NixNewby: which repos are you using?
[12:40] <blrich> chameleon don't care about aac, i don't like rhythmbox because you cant edit or organise the music
[12:40] <nnonix> blrich: I agree, I want me itunes
[12:40] <Bieleke> on my windows box my home-dir is stored on the linux server
[12:40] <Bieleke> so nothing is saved locally
[12:40] <__Dave__> hi, which is the best way to watch dvd in ubuntu?
[12:40] <Bieleke> so a fresh install of windows does not drop my data cause all is on the server
[12:40] <blrich> nnonix, damn straight =)
[12:40] <St^Anger^19m> what program can i use to convert a wmv movie into dvd compatible format?
[12:40] <Bieleke> that must be possible with ubuntu too no ?
[12:41] <[Chameleon] > blrich: you can organize with playlists. And if you want a tag editor, I highly recommend "Audio Tag Tool"  http://pwp.netcabo.pt/paol/tagtool/
[12:41] <nnonix> blrich: about $62 ?
[12:41] <slibs> __Dave__, i'd use xine, vlc or mplayer
[12:41] <RezDawg> ubotu: !tell me about unmount
[12:41] <ubotu> RezDawg: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:41] <nnonix> blrich: for crossover?
[12:41] <blrich> nnonix, ??
[12:41] <Xaios> w00t!
[12:42] <blrich> nnonix, oh, uh, i got mine... uh.... 100% discounted....
[12:42] <blrich> nnonix, for uh, testing purposes.....
[12:42] <Xaios> eSound Output Plugin roxorz for my soxoz
[12:42] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: just create a separate /home partition.
[12:42] <blrich> nnonix, well that's no major lie, might actually buy it if it works well, always has in the past. 3.1 was the last one i tried
[12:42] <slibs> Xaios: so it works now?
[12:42] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: then you can nuke / re-install / change your distro whenever you want and not lose your user files.
[12:42] <nnonix> blrich: I get it
[12:42] <__Dave__> slibs: i've installed vlc, but the dvd's don't play automatically when i insert them, and i do not know how to "open" them with vlc
[12:42] <Xaios> slibs: Yes thanks!
[12:42] <NixNewby> nalioth i replaced it with the ones the page said
[12:42] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: then, if you want to back that stuff up, just use dd and dump it to a compressed file.
[12:42] <slibs> __Dave__: you probably havent installed that one file, dvdlibrary thing
[12:42] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: that's what I've done for years.
[12:43] <rysiek> ok, nobody seems to have an idea on this :/
[12:43] <Bieleke> [Chameleon] , i understand, but the server is there for a reason, to store everything on it except the os
[12:44] <Bieleke> so if you hd is gone, your /home is gone, and i want to avoid that
[12:44] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: if you want to get really tricky, use LVM and setup Home and System volume groups, then you can dynamically adjust the filesystem size.
[12:44] <NixNewby> nalioth
[12:44] <NixNewby> ?
[12:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell NixNewby about paste
[12:44] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: that's why you make backup copies onto the server. Don't rely 100% on your server because in that situation, the server HD is more likely to fail than the PCs.
[12:44] <nalioth> NixNewby: try it again in a few minutes
[12:45] <slibs> has anyone ideas how to make that ctrl+mouse1 = mouse2
[12:45] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: use separate /home partitions and scheduled backups or distributed filesystems. that's your best bet.
[12:45] <NixNewby> IT TOOK an HOUR???
[12:46] <Bieleke> [Chameleon] , ok... will do that
[12:46] <NixNewby> why will trying it again fix the porob??
[12:46] <[Chameleon] > NixNewby: did you ensure you got a good download using md5sum?
[12:46] <[Chameleon] > NixNewby: or downloading a torrent
[12:46] <RezDawg> nalioth: thanks that worked
[12:46] <jareth_> question, installed ubuntu on my gilrfriends compaq pressario laptop. how do i disable touchpad clicking?
[12:47] <spola> is there something better then rhythmbox for gnome? eg Can i get Juk to run on gnome?
[12:47] <[Chameleon] > NixNewby: if you download a torrent, you're assured a successful ISO because bittorrent automatically checks integrity as it goes using md5sum.
[12:47] <nalioth> RezDawg: great!
[12:47] <slibs> jareth_: check the forums
[12:47] <NixNewby> What are ya talking about!!!??
[12:47] <NixNewby> Im updating
[12:47] <jareth_> slibs: which?
[12:47] <slibs> spola: you can run it in gnome
[12:47] <NixNewby> from warty
[12:47] <NixNewby> to Breezy
[12:47] <Xaios> Hey Im looking for a program similar to NetStumbler
[12:47] <[Chameleon] > jareth_: I don't think there is a way.
[12:47] <slibs> jareth_: use search
[12:47] <[Chameleon] > jareth_: I was looking into that the other day
[12:48] <RezDawg> nalioth: im afraid im getting to where im dangerous cuz i starting to know enough to do serious harm but noob enough to not know better
[12:48] <spola> slibs, dont i need to run like artsd for it?
[12:48] <slibs> spola: i cant remember
[12:48] <[Wiebel] > !tell me about w32codecs
[12:48] <jareth_> Chameleon: I have a sad face sitting next to me now ;(
[12:48] <slibs> there was howto somewhere
[12:48] <nalioth> RezDawg: yes, we do learn lots when we get to that point
[12:48] <NixNewby> nalioth did ya want me to paste what happened in a bin and show ya?
[12:48] <[Chameleon] > jareth_: http://gsynaptics.sourceforge.jp/
[12:48] <nalioth> NixNewby: if you like
[12:49] <corincole> hey all....  what is the command to end gui?
[12:49] <blrich> nnonix, ah, well, it won't work with files that have utf8 characters in their names
[12:49] <jareth_> Chameleon: thanks a lot!
[12:49] <corincole> i know startx, but then? stopx? :P
[12:49] <slibs> jareth_: i think it can be configured in xorg.conf, but i really don't know how
[12:49] <[Chameleon] > jareth_: tell me if it works.
[12:49] <[Chameleon] > jareth_: I don't know
[12:49] <[Chameleon] > slibs: check out the link I sent him. What do you think?
[12:49] <spola> i just wanna get rid of this sorry ass excuse for a media library they call rhythmbox, i lost all my playlists for the second time
[12:49] <jareth_> slibs:  I really thought the same. but no clue at all
[12:49] <corincole> anyone?
[12:50] <[Chameleon] > spola: how'd you lose 'em?
[12:50] <jareth_> chameleon: i will have a look right now
[12:50] <[Chameleon] > jareth_: thx
[12:50] <slibs> [Chameleon] : that might work
[12:50] <Severian> corincole, if you use startx to start the gui, then you just exit the gui and you go back to a command line.
[12:50] <llpamies> I've recently upgraded to breezy, and now my apache htaccess files don't work! Is like it was never readed. Any body knows the solution ?
[12:50] <[Chameleon] > slibs: somebody that used it said they couldn't turn the clicks off... hopefully jareth_ can.
[12:50] <spola> [Chameleon] , rhytmhbox crashed and everything was gone (well, my playlists werent "gone", they were empty)
[12:50] <NixNewby> nalioth http://pastebin.com/401779
[12:50] <[Chameleon] > spola: hmm.. I think it saves everything on proper exit.
[12:51] <__Dave__> how i can read dvds from gxine?
[12:51] <[Chameleon] > __Dave__: install libdvdcss2
[12:51] <__Dave__> i already have it
[12:51] <slibs> we are living in a yellow submarine!
[12:52] <slibs> __Dave__: did you install that libsomethingdvd
[12:52] <spola> well it didnt. im no whizz or nothing all i know is that my playlists are gone; its the second time it happened and im fscking sick of it
[12:52] <[Chameleon] > __Dave__: umm... File / DVD ???
[12:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell NixNewby about gpgerr
[12:52] <jareth> Chameleon: I will try later. and let you'll know.
[12:52] <spola> i goer 7000 songs it takes days to sort out the good ones
[12:52] <slibs> :D
[12:52] <slibs> spola: why do you have bad music :(
[12:52] <__Dave__> when i click file/dvd, i get an error
[12:53] <[Chameleon] > slibs: that's what I'm wondering...
[12:53] <[Chameleon] > slibs: too much P2P prolly
[12:53] <__Dave__> xine engine failed to start.
[12:53] <__Dave__> No input plugin found.
[12:53] <__Dave__> Maybe the file does not exist, has wrong permissions or
[12:53] <__Dave__> URL syntax error.
[12:53] <spola> slibs, cuz when my friends come along with portable harddrives i just copy everything and sort em later
[12:54] <spola> and no, cuz i havent got p2p to work on ubuntu
[12:54] <slibs> well why do you sort them with playlist, and not with deleting them
[12:54] <locomorto> spola: what type of p2p?
[12:54] <spola> jeezs
[12:54] <nnonix> blrich: downloading demo now. Its only $40 btw.
[12:54] <locomorto> spola: I run dc, limewire and bt
[12:54] <slibs> bittorrent is installed by default :P
[12:54] <deFrysk> a lean soulseek clone
[12:54] <spola> locomorto, i think its cuz my "isp" doenst allow incoming connections
[12:55] <locomorto> !tell __Dave__ about restrictedformats
[12:55] <topyli> yay! pavel has OOo2 final packages :)
[12:56] <Pickle_Weasel> shh
[12:56] <Belutz> topyli, really? so we would have an update soon?
[12:56] <spola> oh yay Juk works !!!!
[12:56] <Pickle_Weasel> i have pavel set on highlight
[12:56] <jareth> spola: install gtk-gnutella
[12:57] <topyli> Belutz: i doubt ubuntu will push up the version. OOo is such a major package that it might be possible
[12:57] <Pickle_Weasel> is there something similar to alt-tab that will let me switch out of full screen programs, a package perhaps?
[12:57] <topyli> Belutz: surely there will be a backport once dapper goes active
[12:57] <[Chameleon] > Pickle_Weasel: what programs?
[12:57] <spola> jareth, ty
[12:57] <Pickle_Weasel> [Chameleon] : games and the like
[12:57] <[Chameleon] > Pickle_Weasel: Gnome apps or, like, games
[12:57] <Belutz> topyli, ic :)
[12:58] <jareth> spola: yw
[12:58] <[Chameleon] > Pickle_Weasel: usually that's game dependent. Ryan @ Icculus.org told me that all their games support Alt-Enter for that.
[12:58] <[Chameleon] > Pickle_Weasel: what game(s)?
[12:58] <Pickle_Weasel> Neverwinter
[12:58] <[Chameleon] > Pickle_Weasel: hmm, was that an Icculus port / assist or did they do it all in-house?
[12:59] <[Chameleon] > Pickle_Weasel: did you try Alt-Enter?
[12:59] <Pickle_Weasel> i got all the info/files off the official site, and no, i have not
[12:59] <Pickle_Weasel> but i shall
[12:59] <topyli> hrm. pavel's windows packages are 2.0 but the linux packages are called RC3?
[12:59] <ammar> hello all, anyone with arabic experience on ubuntu here?
[12:59] <NixNewby> nal do I wait 10 mins and update+dist-upgrade or just dist-upgrade??
[01:00] <ammar> ice_druid, hi
[01:00] <ice_druid> hello
[01:00] <ammar> ice_druid, just asked about arabic related experience
[01:00] <[Chameleon] > does anyone know how to bind keyboard actions to mouse buttons? my mouse has 12 buttons and I want to do stuff with the extra buttons.
[01:00] <NixNewby> nalioth do I wait 10 mins and update+dist-upgrade or just dist-upgrade??
[01:00] <spola> dewd juk >>>>>> rhythmbox
[01:01] <__Dave__> oh, yeah! now i can see dvd's, but only on one drive
[01:01] <nalioth> NixNewby: start with update, and go from there
[01:01] <vicks> 12 buttons?! =D
[01:02] <NixNewby> nalioth what?? that doesnt amke sense? after I do what the bot says do i need to update again, or just dist-upgrade again...???
[01:04] <nalioth> NixNewby: you've just wiped your database
[01:04] <nalioth> NixNewby: if you dont apt-get update, you'll get nothing
[01:04] <NixNewby> ok thats what i was asing
[01:05] <__Dave__> why i can only play dvds from my dvd recorder, and not from my dvd player?
[01:06] <spudse> Do the w32codecs contain codecs to view wmv video ?
[01:06] <simone> hello,i have a problemmi receive a message error:Can't change the cpu speed
[01:07] <simone> the daemon in change of changing the cpu speed is no started
[01:07] <simone> ???
[01:07] <simone> i have a turion mobile cpu
[01:07] <KenSentMe> How do i know if my ati drivers are correctly installed
[01:07] <Seveas> spudse, yes, upto wmv9
[01:07] <KenSentMe> i get an error while starting a game
[01:07] <Seveas> KenSentMe, look in xorg.conf
[01:08] <simone> anybody can help me?
[01:08] <nalioth> !ita
[01:08] <ubotu> I heard ita is italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[01:08] <nas> hello everyone
[01:09] <KenSentMe> Seveas, and if it says ati there i can assume that they are installed correctly
[01:09] <canindya> is it possible to install w32codecs in amd64?  I am not able to play .dat files in mplayer
[01:09] <Seveas> KenSentMe, ati are the open source drivers
[01:09] <Fanskapet> canindya: it is.
[01:09] <Seveas> if you get oppengl errors, you might want to try the fglrx drivers
[01:09] <Seveas> !tell KenSentMe about ati
[01:10] <St^Anger^19m> hi need the microsoft fonts badly
[01:10] <spudse> Seveas, in which repositories are the w32codecs ?
[01:10] <canindya> when I do apt-get install it fails to locate it..do I need any special source lists?
[01:10] <St^Anger^19m> i cant get them through apt
[01:10] <Seveas> spudse, marillat has them
[01:10] <Fanskapet> canindya: I installed it manually from mplayer's website
[01:11] <bimberi> St^Anger^19m: msttcorefonts are in the universe repository
[01:11] <Fanskapet> or well datfiles.
[01:11] <Fanskapet> that I don't know anything about
[01:11] <bimberi> St^Anger^19m: er, make that multiverse
[01:11] <Fanskapet> dat file? what in the world s that format!?
[01:11] <spudse> Seveas, what is marillat, a codec package ?
[01:12] <St^Anger^19m> thanks!
[01:12] <St^Anger^19m> bimberi, thanks loads!
[01:12] <bimberi> St^Anger^19m: yw :) - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:12] <nalioth> Seveas: the restricted wiki has been changed
[01:12] <simone> anybody have this problem?:Can't change the CPU speed.
[01:12] <simone> The daemon in charge of changing the CPU speed is not started. Please do so if you want to control your CPU speed, and then click on the applet.
[01:12] <St^Anger^19m> bimberi solved :)
[01:12] <canindya> St^Anger^19m: you can check http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3446 I copied my sources.list there
[01:12] <muep> !tell muep about ati
[01:13] <canindya> Fanskapet: thanks
[01:13] <ssam> Fanskapet, loads of software keeps data in a .dat file
[01:14] <Fanskapet> ssam: yes that im fully aware of.. but not as a video-format?
[01:14] <Fanskapet> ah well
[01:14] <Fanskapet> whatever *yawns'
[01:14] <ssam> Fanskapet, ok i dont know about video
[01:14] <propagandhi> I've seen video in dat before
[01:15] <propagandhi> i dont know exactly what it was format-wise but i've seen video with dat extension
[01:15] <Xaios> Ok I am really stupid
[01:15] <Xaios> I cant seem to find the Skins folder
[01:15] <Xaios> for xmms
[01:15] <Xaios> Can someone point me in the right direction?
[01:15] <[Chameleon] > Fanskapet: the default mime type in windows for .dat files is MPEG video
[01:15] <NixNewby> nalioth at the end of the dist-upgrade i got this... http://pastebin.com/401791
[01:15] <Fanskapet> .dat
[01:15] <Fanskapet> Data file format. Files containing generic input or output.
[01:15] <[Chameleon] > Fanskapet: yeah...
[01:16] <Fanskapet> aha.. it's a VCD format
[01:16] <hawking> where can i find nice repositories for breezy?
[01:16] <nalioth> NixNewby: your dpkg errored out. simply try again
[01:16] <St^Anger^19m> are some gnome themes "heavier" than others?
[01:16] <[Chameleon] > Fanskapet: yeah, I just found that, too
[01:17] <Celaborn> I followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714 in setting up my printer, but doing ./z600 in /usr/lib/cups/backend gives ./z600: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:17] <Celaborn> , and the printer won't print.  Has this happened to anyone?
[01:18] <bimberi> hawking: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 - with bonus typo (pacakges) :)
[01:18] <St^Anger^19m> !prelink
[01:18] <ubotu> from memory, prelink is a way to load apps faster. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25274&highlight=Prelink and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45810&highlight=Prelink
[01:19] <bimberi> Celaborn: search on http://packages.ubuntu.com for the package containing the file libstdc++.so.5 and install it
[01:22] <topyli> heh. the shuttleworth faq gets a sequel from mandriva :)
[01:22] <[Chameleon] > what is this shuttleworth faq?
[01:22] <[Chameleon] > URL?
[01:23] <topyli> mark's faq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth , gael's faq: http://www.indidea.org/gael/en/gael-answers.php
[01:24] <NixNewby> nalioth keeps doin the dame thing
[01:24] <Bonzodog> hrm..ok, have asked in the forums, no-ones out of bed yet, so:
[01:24] <Celaborn> bimberi, thank you
[01:24] <Bonzodog> Is it possible to create a 'shutdown splash' for ubuntu?
[01:24] <bimberi> Celaborn: yw :)
[01:24] <n1k0s_> whats going on with ubuntu codecs i cant install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[01:25] <nalioth> NixNewby: it's a dpkg error on your machine, not a network problem
[01:25] <Seveas> Bonzodog, yes, that is a goal for Dapper
[01:25] <topyli> Bonzodog: should be, many distros have one :)
[01:25] <aeon17x> n1k0s_: did you activate the universe and multiverse repos?
[01:25] <topyli> Bonzodog: OTOH, other distros don't use usplash afaik
[01:25] <St^Anger^19m> is there any way to sort of tweak my nvidia vga performance?
[01:26] <St^Anger^19m> i'm running a 6800, with drivers installed...but when i drag windows they move very slowly
[01:26] <haffe> RenderAccel might speed things up.
[01:26] <n1k0s_> no i get a error on resolving host
[01:26] <Bonzodog> St^Anger^19m, have you checked your 3d acceleration is working ok?
[01:26] <St^Anger^19m> yes....the 3d screensavers work well
[01:27] <[Chameleon] > St^Anger^19m: http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0150048402/linux/Multiple_Nvidia_Multiple_Head.html
[01:27] <[Chameleon] > St^Anger^19m: that's what I used to get mine humming along nicely.
[01:27] <hawking> bimberi: thanks
[01:27] <aeon17x> n1k0s_: I heard the US repositories don't work well at the moment.
[01:27] <Bonzodog> I'm running a 6200, and it seem ok to me
[01:28] <aeon17x> n1k0s_: try editing your sources.list file and replace all instances of "us.archive..." with "archive..."
[01:28] <bimberi> hawking: yw :)
[01:28] <furic> in hoary im finding that totem-gstreamer's video goes stuttery when there is a sound track in whatever its playing, regardless of format (mp3, vorbis, and A/52 all cause this), even when not playing a video the visualisation is stuttery, the sound is fine though, anyone know whats going on?
[01:28] <St^Anger^19m> ok [Chameleon]  i'll try it out
[01:28] <Bonzodog> on that subject I went into the xorg file and noticed that the nvidia conf has left in the dri and GLCore lines, which nvidia tell you to remove. My 3D is ok though...
[01:28] <Celaborn> Is there a way to disable the beeping noises from tower? (such as when you try to close an unsaved document in openoffice and it pops up to ask you to save?)
[01:29] <furic> Celaborn, The most foolproof method would be to unplug the speaker
[01:29] <NixNewby> nalioth okay how do i fic it?
[01:29] <NixNewby> fics
[01:29] <NixNewby> fix*
[01:30] <Bonzodog> NixNewby, : Fix
[01:30] <[Chameleon] > St^Anger^19m: the tips toward the bottom of the page should be especially useful.
[01:30] <nalioth> NixNewby: i dont know
[01:30] <gabrieltomate> Algum Brasileiro????????????
[01:30] <Seveas> !br
[01:30] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[01:31] <Skid> !dvd
[01:31] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can by installing 'libdvdread3' and then running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[01:31] <NixNewby> nalioth, if it ened like this is it done?
[01:31] <gabrieltomate> !br
[01:31] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[01:31] <NixNewby> http://pastebin.com/401798
[01:31] <Skid> !restricted
[01:31] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:32] <HiddenWolf> guys, how do I create a boot floppy from linux?
[01:32] <MrBoncimerl> irc.arrakis.es
[01:33] <n1k0s_> !say n1k0s_ sources
[01:33] <ubotu> n1k0s_: What?
[01:33] <n1k0s_> ehm
[01:33] <St^Anger^19m> !RenderAccel
[01:33] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, St^Anger^19m
[01:33] <n1k0s_> !say n1k0s_ about sources
[01:33] <ubotu> n1k0s_: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:33] <n1k0s_> huh?
[01:33] <Seveas> don't play with the bot...
[01:33] <bimberi> n1k0s_: !tell
[01:33] <n1k0s_> :)
[01:33] <n1k0s_> !tell n1k0s_ about sources
[01:34] <NixNewby> http://pastebin.com/401798  <--- is that a successful finish to the upgrade???
[01:34] <NixNewby> nalioth?
[01:34] <[Chameleon] > HiddenWolf: mkboot
[01:34] <Seveas> NixNewby, no it isn't
[01:34] <[Chameleon] > HiddenWolf: man mkboot
[01:34] <nalioth> NixNewby: yes? i dont know how to fix dpkg sending you that error
[01:34] <Seveas> NixNewby, try: sudo dpkg --configure --pending
[01:35] <HiddenWolf> [Chameleon] , I need a "DOS" floppy, so I can flash a bios
[01:35] <Seveas> HiddenWolf, bootdisk.com/net/org/whatever?
[01:36] <HiddenWolf> Seveas, exe files an .bin files
[01:37] <NixNewby> keeps asking if i wanna keep current version.. i said Y  is that right..?
[01:37] <Seveas> dd if=filename.bin of=/dev/fd0 :)
[01:37] <bradd> any ideas on how to load the Xvideo extension?
[01:37] <LokeDK> How do I mount a .mds image? and if not possible to mount, how do I convert it to .iso ?
[01:37] <Xaios> how do I save my current state to a flash drive when Im using the live cd?
[01:37] <gabrieltomate> !dvd
[01:38] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can obtain by installing 'libdvdread3' and then running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[01:38] <Seveas> mds?
[01:38] <carl> I need to know how to change the realplayer from a bin file so I can install it on my system
[01:38] <Seveas> !realplayer
[01:38] <ubotu> well, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:38] <NixNewby> Sighs, why is this broke i just did a clean install of warty and then tried to upgrade????
[01:38] <Seveas> NixNewby, to hoary or breezy?
[01:38] <LokeDK> yeah .mds .. never heard of it either
[01:38] <carl> 5.04
[01:38] <NixNewby> breezy
[01:39] <Seveas> NixNewby, that is not supported...
[01:39] <Seveas> and not even tested
[01:39] <NixNewby> Well I asked how to do it "from warty" and nalioth said follow the guide
[01:39] <carl> so I can't install it
[01:40] <carl> I get confussed on what I am doing
[01:40] <Enlite> is the mysql root password stored in an ini or anything?
[01:40] <Seveas> in the db itself
[01:41] <Enlite> ah
[01:41] <Bonzodog> carl: you can install realplayer
[01:41] <Enlite> i forgot what i set the password to
[01:41] <Bonzodog> open terminal
[01:41] <topyli> anybody know if there is an ubuntu build of OOo2 final?
[01:41] <Seveas> the default login after install is root without password
[01:41] <NixNewby> so wtf do i need to do..  no i have a halfway upgraded warty to breezy, I woulda gone to Hoary then Breezy but nalioth told me to go straight to breezy??\
[01:41] <Xaios> Can anyone tell me how to write the changes I made in the live cd version of ubuntu to my flashdrive?
[01:41] <Bonzodog> go to directory where it is; type ./realplayer
[01:41] <Bonzodog> or whatever the filename is
[01:42] <Bonzodog> but put ./ before it
[01:42] <NixNewby> hello
[01:42] <mpathy> Hi there.. What is a good partition size, if I want to install many programs and also KDE and Gnome both.. (but without personal data included)
[01:42] <NixNewby> im not gunna be stuck with a broken distro
[01:42] <carl> I tryed useing the terinal what extension do  I use
[01:42] <Bonzodog> just type in the full filenam
[01:42] <Bonzodog> *filename
[01:43] <NixNewby> So now that I screwed it up by doin what you guys said no one is gunna help me fix it??!!???
[01:43] <Bonzodog> so '$./realplayer.bin'
[01:43] <NixNewby> great
[01:43] <carl> I know I need to get rid of bin what do I change it to
[01:43] <nalioth_zZz> NixNewby: change your sources.list to show "hoary" instead of breezy
[01:44] <Seveas> NixNewby, try: sudo dpkg --configure --pending
[01:44] <Bonzodog> why do you need to get rid of bin?
[01:44] <Seveas> and see where it ends
[01:45] <NixNewby> Seveas, I did that and it wanted me to pick something when it asked use current version.. i chose Y.. is that right..?
[01:45] <Seveas> NixNewby, no
[01:45] <nige> hello
[01:45] <Seveas> you should have let it use the new version....
[01:45] <Seveas> if you don't, you might end up without X
[01:46] <Seveas> by the way: this dist-upgrade will download all packages anyway. It is MUCH easier to simply download a Breezy ISO and start over
[01:46] <NixNewby> Seveas, what!! I allready chose Y for all of em, what do I do now??
[01:47] <Dav1> I have a little problem
[01:47] <Seveas> NixNewby, better just take the easy route and grab the breezy iso
[01:47] <NixNewby> Seveas, all I had was a warty disc, i tried burning the breezy disk and i kept getting a fatal error during base install..???
[01:47] <Seveas> NixNewby, hmm...
[01:47] <Arnald> How do I get a UK charmap installed - I have set Preferences->Keyboard, Administration->Language Selector, dpkg-reconfigure console-data (select UK keymap) and reconfigured locales, and I STILL get a US key mapping in gnome-terminal.  Is there another setting somewhere?
[01:48] <Seveas> burn it at slow speed and check the md5sum of both iso and cd
[01:48] <Dav1> my browser would not browse the web when i input the url to where i want to go it just says could not find the url even for www.google.com
[01:48] <topyli> Seveas: depends on number of installed packages. on a lean system, upgrade will download a lot less than the iso would be
[01:48] <fio> Hi
[01:49] <Dav1> can anyone help me please
[01:49] <NixNewby> so...
[01:49] <NixNewby> how do i get my totally screwed system to a good health breezy system now??
[01:49] <yancheng> hi, i was wondering if i turn a source tar file into deb file, after i perform installation through my self custom made deb file, would i able to maintain the package (uninstall) through synaptic package manager?
[01:49] <PleinesK> Hi dave, what kind of network are you using?
[01:50] <NixNewby> Seveas, ???
[01:50] <fio> How can I see a list of the users connected to my ftp server (vsftpd)? Is there a way to see it graphically? (using firefox via webmin, or another xorg program?)
[01:50] <Seveas> NixNewby, I really see no option but reinstalling
[01:50] <Dav1> its just a nic card connected to a cable modem via network wire
[01:50] <NixNewby> but my media doesnt WORK
[01:50] <NixNewby> its goes meltdown during base install
[01:50] <Seveas> burn it at slow speed and check the md5sum of both iso and cd <---
[01:51] <PleinesK> so you establish a ppp connection using the a cable modem ritht?
[01:51] <HappyFool> does anyone know how the klibc-utils work? when I run '/usr/lib/klibc/bin/sh' program, i get 'bash: /usr/lib/klibc/bin/sh: No such file or directory'
[01:51] <NixNewby> So..
[01:51] <NixNewby> And im outa blank media to burn the ISO too
[01:51] <ranf> hi
[01:51] <HappyFool> this website has reasonable good tips (imo) for cd burning: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm
[01:51] <NixNewby> Actually can i use a DVDRW???
[01:52] <Seveas> NixNewby, ye
[01:52] <NixNewby> hrm
[01:52] <NixNewby> Thats what I used, and its all freaked out..
[01:52] <PleinesK> Dave is the connection established, did you get a IP and is the route set?
[01:52] <NixNewby> I guess I could burn it again, but what if it doesnt work?? then i have to install warty all over agin  Seveas
[01:53] <Seveas> NixNewby, firt check the md5sum of the ISO
[01:53] <dabaR> NixNewby: then install it on a friend's copmputer, to make sure it works...
[01:54] <NixNewby> dabaR i dun have one here at the moment
[01:54] <gnomefreak> davl: do you have a working internet connection?
[01:54] <dabaR> never mind, then, just take over someone's house for a few hours...
[01:54] <NixNewby> k well its on my windows part Seveas how do i get it and check it?
[01:56] <aeon17x> Bonzodog: windows is difficult?
[01:56] <Bonzodog> was for me
[01:56] <NixNewby> ????
[01:56] <Curly_Braces> hi everyone!
[01:56] <Bonzodog> I find a linux CLI much easier
[01:56] <Hobbsee> hi
[01:56] <dabaR> NixNewby: rephrase
[01:56] <NixNewby> How do I check the Media once its burnt before i try to install it again???
[01:57] <St^Anger^19m> wot program can i use to convert a .mwv to a dvd compatible video?
[01:57] <Revellion> .wmv ?
[01:57] <Revellion> or?
[01:57] <aeon17x> NixNewby: your CD burning software should verify its contents for you.
[01:57] <Bonzodog> $md5sum <name of ISO>
[01:57] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m:
[01:57] <St^Anger^19m> a windows video ye
[01:57] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: use mencoder to transcode it?
[01:57] <Revellion> into MPEG2 or MPEG1 ? :)
[01:57] <St^Anger^19m> yes into mpeg
[01:57] <Bonzodog> that will work in windows CLI as well
[01:57] <NixNewby> ya nero said it was fine, but it still went meltdown during base install aeon17x
[01:57] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: got mplayer and mencoder?
[01:58] <St^Anger^19m> i dont have any
[01:58] <St^Anger^19m> but i can install them i guess
[01:58] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: install em then? :)
[01:58] <St^Anger^19m> any1 or both?
[01:58] <Revellion> mencoder comes together with mplayer usually
[01:58] <aeon17x> NixNewby: then maybe it's your hardware that has the problem. Bad RAM perhaps.
[01:58] <Revellion> in most distros
[01:58] <r0xoR> is the mirror problem solved by now?
[01:59] <NixNewby> aeon17x, that makes no sense I have had a million different OS's on here, I have win XP on another PART working fine, i installed warty fine after it failed  aeon17x
[01:59] <[maven] > can i set different mouse speeds  for the internal touchpad and an external usb mouse?
[01:59] <bloodnik> haro
[02:00] <St^Anger^19m> Mplayer isnt currently installable
[02:00] <r0xoR> [maven] , no
[02:00] <r0xoR> [maven] , the speed you got is the speed you get
[02:00] <St^Anger^19m> Revellion, MPlayer isnt current installable
[02:00] <Arnald> How do I get a UK charmap installed - I have set Preferences->Keyboard, Administration->Language Selector, dpkg-reconfigure console-data (select UK keymap) and reconfigured locales, and I STILL get a US key mapping in gnome-terminal. Is there another setting somewhere?
[02:00] <bloodnik> I'm trying to run a torrent on my server through ssh but btdownloadheadless always runs as a child of the ssh connection, so when I close the connection the torrent stops.
[02:00] <NixNewby> what software Can i use to format a DVDR???
[02:00] <r0xoR> [maven] , unfortunately that's the way it works atm
[02:00] <NixNewby> DVDRW
[02:00] <aeon17x> NixNewby: it never hurts to test it.
[02:00] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: hmm
[02:00] <r0xoR> NixNewby, mkisofs
[02:00] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: apt-get install mplayer-nogui
[02:00] <Revellion> there is different versions
[02:00] <[maven] > r0xoR: thanks. I'll stop looking then... :(
[02:01] <Revellion> but the -nogui is usually the best imho
[02:01] <bloodnik> I can't figure out a way of starting a torrent on the server through ssh and then exiting ssh so I can go back later and log back onto the server to see how it's doing
[02:01] <St^Anger^19m> ok downloading rite now
[02:01] <Curly_Braces> Can anyone help me? I have the "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy" error.
[02:01] <r0xoR> [maven] , yeah, it sux... i've got a razer boomslang and it defaults to 1600 DPI which is fuckin enormous and it's WAY too fast... but there's nothin i can do afaik
[02:01] <NixNewby> aeon17x, my Hardware is fine, I need to find out why the breezy ISO i have is not working, not inspect my hardware
[02:01] <_iGadget_> hi
[02:01] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: neat :)
[02:01] <Hobbsee> hey _iGadget_
[02:02] <NixNewby> r0xoR, know something a lil more user friendly i can use, maybe something with a GUI?
[02:02] <St^Anger^19m> Revellion, installed
[02:02] <r0xoR> NixNewby, yeah, it's called the manual ;)
[02:02] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: lets see then
[02:02] <[maven] > r0xoR: I'm using a diamondback ;)
[02:02] <Revellion> MPEG-2 would probably be easiest
[02:02] <Revellion> since most DVD's support it
[02:02] <r0xoR> NixNewby, no, but for real - burning DVD's is a well covered subject no specific to ubuntu
[02:02] <_iGadget_> does anyone else besides me have troubles connecting to www.ubuntu.com?
[02:02] <NixNewby> r0xoR, the manual has a GUI, wow yur smart
[02:02] <St^Anger^19m> yes mpeg2 is preferable
[02:03] <r0xoR> [maven] , ahhh, yeah you're stuck with the high resolution until razer makes a linux driver
[02:03] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: gonna figure out the codec string needed
[02:03] <Hobbsee> _iGadget_: it's working here for me...tried pinging it?
[02:03] <Revellion> since it's basically
[02:03] <NixNewby> I dun want to burn a DVD WTF, i am trying to install Breezy
[02:03] <St^Anger^19m> thanks
[02:03] <r0xoR> NixNewby, wow - you haven't read the manul for a very well covered topic, you're even smarter
[02:03] <Curly_Braces> Can anyone help me, please? I have the "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy" error.
[02:03] <Revellion> cat *file-source.avi/mpg* | mencoder -codecoptions here -
[02:03] <_iGadget_> Hobbsee: yup... times out
[02:03] <Bonzodog> ubunut.com working here
[02:03] <r0xoR> NixNewby, K3B is probably what you want
[02:03] <Hobbsee> _iGadget_: how does one go about pinging it?
[02:03] <_iGadget_> PING www.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.130) 56(84) bytes of data.
[02:03] <NixNewby> r0xoR, why the F would i read a manual on DVD burning when all i wanna do is get breezy installed???
[02:04] <Bonzodog> Curly_Braces, what were you doing to get the error?
[02:04] <r0xoR> NixNewby... you said you wanted to format a DVDRW
[02:04] <Curly_Braces> Bonzodog: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2
[02:04] <Bonzodog> hey, stop being picky over typos
[02:04] <r0xoR> NixNewby, you're in the #ubuntu channel - i answered your question
[02:05] <_iGadget_> does my dns even reslolve it correctly?
[02:05] <r0xoR> NixNewby, had you said that in the first place - my answer would have been different cuz your question would have been different - and even if you did say it... this channel goes fast... it might have scrolled off my screen
[02:05] <NixNewby> r0xoR, no you didnt you completely misguided me, telling me to read about DVD burning.. Im asking about installing breezy
[02:05] <r0xoR> NixNewby, ask a smart question before you call ME dumb then
[02:05] <NixNewby> I did ask a smart question
[02:05] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: brb
[02:05] <Revellion> nature :|
[02:06] <St^Anger^19m> Revellion, tyt
[02:06] <r0xoR> not sure why you need the DVD to install it - you can burn a CD of the install just fine
[02:06] <St^Anger^19m> :)
[02:06] <r0xoR> NixNewby, anyway do you wanna argue with me or do you want an answer to the question
[02:06] <Bonzodog> that means eth0 is up and already connected to another address I guess
[02:06] <mahangu> NixNewby, as someone who is here for help, you're certainly not being very cooperative
[02:06] <mahangu> calm down
[02:06] <NixNewby> I asked for a program with a GUI that I could use to Format the DVD media i have my Breezy install on..
[02:06] <_iGadget_> hmmm... wtf is my ISP doing
[02:06] <NixNewby> he never helps anyone at all
[02:06] <mahangu> NixNewby, that kind of attitude doesn't help in here
[02:06] <Curly_Braces> Bonzodog: it isnt't...  besides, it is also down, and ifconfig eth0 up does the same
[02:06] <r0xoR> NixNewby... aight whatever man - you just propagated your own lack of help
[02:07] <_iGadget_> Err http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release.gpg
[02:07] <NixNewby> he is the worse help person I have ever met, doesnt even try to find the problem just throwing random crap out there
[02:07] <mahangu> r0xoR, let's let it rest
[02:07] <mahangu> support people, support!
[02:07] <refuze2looze> i want to share a directory with every ip number that begins with 192.168.1.* using NFS, but when i right click and go to share i cannot use a wildcard in the IP address. how can i do this?
[02:07] <Bonzodog> could it be driver error?
[02:07] <r0xoR> NixNewby, your original question i quote "<NixNewby> what software Can i use to format a DVDR???"
[02:07] <NixNewby> He should be here, he is not helping anyone at all
[02:07] <r0xoR> NixNewby, based on that question - i answered it thinking you were in #ubuntu
[02:07] <Bonzodog> you got the right drivers installed for your network card?
[02:07] <mahangu> guys
[02:07] <_iGadget_> Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.138), connection timed out
[02:07] <mahangu> take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:07] <r0xoR> NixNewby, no you shouldn't be here if all you're going to do is complain about the help your getting
[02:07] <r0xoR> mahangu, good point
[02:08] <_iGadget_> Could not connect to nl.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182), connection timed out
[02:08] <NixNewby> I am in #ubuntu, im in Hoary.. so what???
[02:08] <mahangu> r0xoR, NixNewby : #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:08] <_iGadget_> grrrr
[02:08] <mahangu> im calling an ops if this continues
[02:08] <r0xoR> NixNewby, drop it
[02:08] <Curly_Braces> Bonzodog: hmm... card's an RTL8139, it should be supported. only problem could be that it's a PCMCIA card
[02:08] <NixNewby> Your not helping anyone yur a flamer ya need to be on dalnet in #help
[02:08] <r0xoR> ...
[02:08] <mahangu> NixNewby, like I said #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:09] <Welly> hey all.. i've got samba up and running (mostly).. and on my windows machine, the ubuntu box shows up. i've got my home directory shared, but when i try to open up the machine under windows (\\lois) it prompts me for a username and password
[02:09] <NixNewby> tell him to stop he is the one slaming im just trying to get on breezy
[02:09] <mahangu> _iGadget_, that happens sometimes, server probs. try again later
[02:09] <bloodnik> welly: //lois
[02:09] <r0xoR> ...
[02:09] <Bonzodog> you got the pcmcia configured?
[02:09] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: back
[02:09] <mahangu> NixNewby, STFU, he's stopped, now you stop
[02:09] <Revellion> lets see here
[02:09] <Welly> bloodnik: even on windows?
[02:09] <St^Anger^19m> Revellion, welcome back
[02:09] <mahangu> _iGadget_, try a diff country code like - au. or .uk
[02:09] <bloodnik> Welly: yes, also you have to do one more thing
[02:09] <Curly_Braces> Bonzodog: i guess yes. it sees the card, can read the MAC adress
[02:09] <NixNewby> DUDE dont tell me to STFU again.. I stopped he stop now you stop, get it??
[02:09] <Welly> oh ok.. whats that then?
[02:09] <aeon17x> NixNewby: we ARE trying to get your Breezy to work, but what you do is reject our proposal even though you haven't even tried it.
[02:09] <_iGadget_> mahangu: well... it seems like I'm the only one unable to reach ubuntu.com
[02:10] <bloodnik> Welly: on your ubuntu box, you have to do sudo smbpasswd -e <username>
[02:10] <NixNewby> aeon17x, what did I reject??
[02:10] <mahangu> _iGadget_, it's your country server mate
[02:10] <r0xoR> mahangu, i don't think he gets it, no
[02:10] <nige> i am having a problem with breezy, I have done some updates but i have lost the use of my applications menu bar, my applications br doesnt work
[02:10] <nige> :(
[02:10] <St^Anger^19m> btw i need to change the location too
[02:10] <Welly> ah ha.. no
[02:10] <bloodnik> Welly: that enables that username on SMB
[02:10] <Welly> i'll do that now
[02:10] <aeon17x> NixNewby: Let's see... when i told you to check your hardware?
[02:10] <derchilligephil|> hey is there a nice tut or howto for the userrights in linux
[02:10] <_iGadget_> mahangu: m'kay... I'll try another, thanks :)
[02:10] <derchilligephil|> i dont understand it
[02:10] <NixNewby> aeon17x, I checked it its fine
[02:10] <r0xoR> derchilligephil|, yup
[02:10] <mahangu> r0xoR, :) let's just drop it.  id hate to wake up an op at this hour :)
[02:10] <NixNewby> aeon17x, my hardware is fine, I told you that
[02:10] <r0xoR> mahangu, well i'm tryin to
[02:10] <Bonzodog> do an $lsmod and see if it has pcmcia module running and driver working
[02:10] <rob^> derchilligephil|, check out the help file
[02:10] <r0xoR> mahangu, i hope we don't have to do that either
[02:10] <mahangu> :)
[02:10] <r0xoR> derchilligephil|, http://tldp.org
[02:10] <derchilligephil|> from ubuntu ?
[02:10] <aeon17x> NixNewby: what did you to to make sure it's fine?
[02:11] <derchilligephil|> izi thx
[02:11] <Seveas> r0xoR, the ops are always awake...
[02:11] <Bonzodog> it sounds to me like a driver problem
[02:11] <Welly> bloodnik: you're a gentleman and a scholar. that worked thank you!
[02:11] <mahangu> Seveas, heya :)
[02:11] <r0xoR> Seveas, i never said they were asleep :)
[02:11] <bloodnik> You're welcome :)
[02:11] <NixNewby> aeon17x, I ran a full diagnostics check on it with some software, its not the hardware, its the ISO or the Media, all I wanna know is how to find out which one..
[02:11] <mahangu> NixNewby, md5 it
[02:12] <r0xoR> NixNewby, so maybe you're calm enough to re-state your question to me? and your full question? because maybe, just maybe, i didn't GET your full question...
[02:12] <mahangu> all .iso downloads have md5 strings
[02:12] <Curly_Braces> Bonzodog: yes, it's there; besides I did an init=/bin/sh run last time, and when I did a modprobe pcmcia and modprobe yenta_socket, the leds lit up, so i think everything's ok with the pcmcia
[02:12] <r0xoR> NixNewby, i'm here to help you - whether you want to beleive otherwise or not
[02:12] <mahangu> that's the easiest way to check whether your media is good or not
[02:12] <Seveas> mahangu, wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyISOHowto
[02:12] <Seveas> ehrm NixNewby*
[02:12] <NixNewby> r0xoR, DUDE i just said DONT TALK TO ME, do you understand english, you can't help, dont TALK to me again, tahts final
[02:12] <Kyynara> hmm...
[02:12] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: damn i have to RTFM a bit :|
[02:12] <_iGadget_> well... uk.archive.ubuntu.com seems down as well
[02:12] <r0xoR> NixNewby, wow
[02:12] <Revellion> it's not so often i encode to MPEG2 :\
[02:12] <mahangu> Seveas, thank you
[02:13] <aeon17x> NixNewby: use a different CD then.
[02:13] <r0xoR> NixNewby, in THAT case it's called the /ignore button
[02:13] <St^Anger^19m> Revellion, :(
[02:13] <Revellion> usually just XviD :\
[02:13] <mahangu> guys, he's gone
[02:13] <r0xoR> yeh
[02:13] <Kyynara> i just installed breezy, my problem is that I cant enter the graphical interface....
[02:13] <Seveas> mahangu, ewww
[02:13] <Seveas> mahangu, www.diveintopython.com :)
[02:13] <Revellion> aaah
[02:13] <Revellion> that was it
[02:13] <mahangu> Seveas, not my fault :( id like to use python
[02:13] <mahangu> haha
[02:13] <St^Anger^19m> Revellion, I also need to change the location of the new video...i dont want to overwrite
[02:13] <r0xoR> hahah... he was complaining about trolls and flamers! lol! this is #ubuntu! hahahah... #perl is HORRIBLE omg
[02:13] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: it won't
[02:13] <r0xoR> #perl and #freebsd are both troll city
[02:13] <Revellion> it just outputs the result as test.avi/mpg
[02:13] <_iGadget_> not surprising, weh I can't reach www.ubuntu.com either...
[02:14] <Seveas> r0xoR, ever been in #debian?
[02:14] <aeon17x> I heard some parts of the world are having DNS issues right now.
[02:14] <St^Anger^19m> Revellion, but i'm reading from an NTFS drive
[02:14] <lorenzod> Seveas: ruby! :)
[02:14] <r0xoR> Seveas, heheh... no but i've heard :P
[02:14] <gnu2it2> how to tell if on breezy or previous version?
[02:14] <mahangu> aeon17x, there was some talk of tier1 isps going down, but that was yesterday
[02:14] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: ouch
[02:14] <r0xoR> aeon17x, i heard some parts of the world are having lots of sex right now ;)
[02:14] <Revellion> then we'll have to redirect the output ^_^
[02:15] <Seveas> _iGadget_, put the output of 'tracepath www.ubuntu.com' on the pastebin
[02:15] <rixth> There were netsplits from hell yesterday...
[02:15] <HappyFool> gnu2it2: try system -> about ubuntu, or 'lsb_release -a' in the command line
[02:15] <Curly_Braces> Bonzodog: any idea?
[02:15] <Seveas> mahangu, level3 had probs yesterday
[02:15] <aeon17x> r0xoR: and we're here trying to solve people's problems with Ubuntu
[02:15] <mahangu> r0xoR, LIES, people don't have sex
[02:15] <mahangu> Seveas, oh yeah, that's the ISP
[02:15] <aeon17x> Is that something to be proud of? :/
[02:15] <Seveas> mahangu, r0xoR, sex talk in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:15] <r0xoR> hahah... oh right, what world am I living in! lol... sorry, i forgot
[02:15] <r0xoR> Seveas, aight
[02:15] <slibs> aww it's cold outside
[02:15] <Seveas> let's keep this a support channel
[02:15] <Arnald> There is an answer to my question "How do I get a UK charmap installed - I have set Preferences->Keyboard, Administration->Language Selector, dpkg-reconfigure console-data (select UK keymap) and reconfigured locales, and I STILL get a US key mapping in gnome-terminal. Is there another setting somewhere?"
[02:16] <Arnald> you have to edit xorg.conf
[02:16] <r0xoR> Arnald, well if there is an answer - why are you asking the question :P
[02:16] <Seveas> r0xoR, to spread information
[02:16] <Seveas> which is a good thing
[02:16] <Arnald> r0xoR: coz no-one here answered it for me!
[02:16] <slibs> anyone knows how to set up so that ctrl+mouse1 would act as a mouse2?
[02:16] <Seveas> slibs, read Arnalds answer :)
[02:17] <HappyFool> Arnald: i take it 'system -> preferences -> keyboard' didn't work ?
[02:17] <Arnald> r0xoR: if there weren't an answer, it owuld be pretty pointless to ask!
[02:17] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, ping?
[02:17] <vrs> Seveas where i find CODECS or plugin to play MP3
[02:17] <St^Anger^19m> Revellion
[02:17] <_iGadget_> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3447
[02:17] <St^Anger^19m> wot about QDVDAuthor?
[02:17] <Seveas> !tell vrs about mp3
[02:17] <aeon17x> !mp3
[02:17] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[02:17] <Arnald> HappyFool: I'll spare you pasting the question for a fourth time - no ;)
[02:18] <mahangu> r0xoR, get in #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[02:18] <slibs> Seveas: how's that going to help me?
[02:18] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: you could probably use that to simplify it all
[02:18] <vrs> Seveas thanks
[02:18] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: i can't really tell if it does or not since i have'nt used it
[02:18] <St^Anger^19m> and the encoding part too?
[02:18] <vrs> !mp3
[02:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[02:18] <Seveas> _iGadget_, yeah, level3 is crapping out on you
[02:18] <St^Anger^19m> no harm in trying :)
[02:18] <Seveas> not so much you can do about it
[02:18] <_iGadget_> Seveas: is this that childish cogent-level3 issue again?
[02:18] <Arnald> r0xoR: HappyFool: I'm using the vmware BrowserAppliance upgraded to Breezy - expect others to ask!
[02:18] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: FOUND IT!
[02:19] <St^Anger^19m> lol
[02:19] <Revellion> damn naming conventions :S
[02:19] <St^Anger^19m> Revellion, spill out :D
[02:19] <Arnald> if they're outside the US at any rate
[02:19] <Revellion> mpeg2video was the output video codec needed
[02:19] <Revellion> thought it was named mpeg2 or mpeg12 :|
[02:19] <Revellion> there ^_^
[02:19] <Revellion> ok
[02:19] <St^Anger^19m> Revellion..and wot about rediricting the output?
[02:20] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: what FPS is the source file?
[02:20] <canindya> is there any issue with sound in ubuntu? sound in my ubuntu box is really low compared to suse!
[02:20] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: were getting to that point ^_^
[02:20] <mahangu_> bah
[02:20] <Revellion> *we're
[02:20] <St^Anger^19m> what is FPS?
[02:20] <Revellion> FPS = Frames Per Second
[02:20] <St^Anger^19m> 25
[02:20] <_iGadget_> -sigh-
[02:20] <Hobbsee> canindya: checked that everything in alsamixer is turned up?  alsamixer is in console
[02:20] <St^Anger^19m> PAL
[02:20] <rixth> St^Anger^19m, Feet Per Second
[02:20] <Revellion> ah k
[02:20] <rixth> (or frames)
[02:20] <Revellion> rixth: lol
[02:20] <Revellion> rixth: both are valid indeed
[02:20] <Revellion> depends on the context ;)
[02:20] <_iGadget_> does anyone know of a mirror for security.ubuntu.com?
[02:20] <canindya> Hobbsee: I am checking
[02:21] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: hmm
[02:21] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: you got a writeable partition too right? :)
[02:21] <Revellion> you could just do...
[02:21] <St^Anger^19m> yes i got my linux partitions
[02:21] <Revellion> if you goto where you plan to store the transcoded file
[02:22] <Revellion> then just cat /path/to/ntfs/drive/and/its/file | mencoder -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vbitrate=800:vcodec=mpeg2video -ofps 25 -
[02:22] <corincole> hey all
[02:22] <antisocialboris> im still getting errors when i apt-get update, it fails to connect and so \ant stat packages, any help?
[02:22] <_iGadget_> ARE there any mirrors for security.ubuntu.com??
[02:22] <Hobbsee> _iGadget_: if there are, check !mirrors
[02:22] <Hobbsee> !tell _iGadget_ about mirrors
[02:22] <nige> anyone having problems with their menu bars?
[02:22] <_iGadget_> thanks :)
[02:22] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: adjust the bitrate or ofps as you see fit
[02:22] <Seveas> antisocialboris, 'tracepath archive.ubuntu.com'
[02:22] <Seveas> put the output on the pastebin
[02:22] <antisocialboris> ok
[02:22] <Hobbsee> _iGadget_: no problems
[02:22] <corincole> !tell corincole about mirrors
[02:23] <St^Anger^19m> ok ok 1 sec!!!
[02:23] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: ^_^
[02:23] <_iGadget_> Hobbsee: well... that's great - ubotu is directing me to wiki.ubuntu.com... which of course is also unreachable to me :(
[02:23] <antisocialboris> ok, first few steps where ok then i got no reply
[02:24] <Seveas> antisocialboris, lemme guess: it ends at a level3 machine?
[02:24] <Hobbsee> _iGadget_: sorry about that, let me check ti from here
[02:24] <antisocialboris> yeah
[02:24] <Seveas> level3 is crapping out
[02:24] <antisocialboris> what does that mean?
[02:24] <Seveas> try switching to us.archive.ubuntu.com or se.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:24] <_iGadget_> Seveas: se.archive.ubuntu.com is working
[02:25] <antisocialboris> ive tried uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:25] <Seveas> _iGadget_, thanks for the info
[02:25] <St^Anger^19m> is there a way to convert it to 16:9 too in the process?
[02:25] <_iGadget_> but now I need a mirror for security.ubuntu.com
[02:25] <Seveas> antisocialboris, try se.archive
[02:25] <propagandhi> !mark
[02:25] <ubotu> A -- MARK -- message is printed in the log every 15 minutes, so you know the logger is running. This is perfectly normal. Your kernel has not been hacked by a danish guy called 'Mark'.
[02:25] <bon1212> How can I check an md5 sum of a breezy ISO?
[02:25] <Seveas> _iGadget_, there is none
[02:25] <antisocialboris> no reply at 3
[02:25] <Seveas> bon1212, get the md5sums file and md5sum -c MD5SUMS
[02:25] <_iGadget_> Seveas: well... that prett much sucks :)
[02:25] <St^Anger^19m> Revellion, is there a way to convert it to 16:9 widescreen too?
[02:25] <Seveas> _iGadget_, yeah....
[02:26] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: indeed there is
[02:26] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: but remember..
[02:26] <bon1212> where do I get the file?
[02:26] <Revellion> if the source is 4:3 and you convert it to 16:9
[02:26] <Seveas> ah
[02:26] <Revellion> the aspect will become a bit f*ed up
[02:26] <antisocialboris> us. aslo doesnt reply at 3, what does this mean?
[02:26] <Seveas> se.archive has breezy-security too
[02:26] <Seveas> antisocialboris, try se.
[02:26] <St^Anger^19m> Revellion....no it's 4:3 but already screwed up...so i mite fix it alittle
[02:26] <bon1212> Seveas, how do i get the file?
[02:26] <antisocialboris> no reply at 3
[02:26] <Seveas> _iGadget_, so there is a mirror :)
[02:26] <Revellion> St^Anger^19m: then you do a simple -aspect 16:9 to the mencoder part of the chain
[02:26] <St^Anger^19m> the recording was in 16:9....windows transfered it as 4:3
[02:27] <_iGadget_> Seveas: se.security.ubuntu.com?
[02:27] <Seveas> antisocialboris, wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[02:27] <Seveas> _iGadget_, no just se.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:27] <Seveas> _iGadget_, no just deb se.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-security main universe multiverse restricted
[02:27] <Seveas> oslt
[02:27] <_iGadget_> Seveas: okay, great :)
[02:28] <St^Anger^19m> the part where i input the source file...i just dragged the file from nautilus into the console and the path was ther
[02:28] <St^Anger^19m> but it's not taking the command
[02:28] <BooZee> Hello. I'm interesting with Eclipse. someone here knows the program?
[02:28] <refuze2looze> can somebody tell me if this is valid in /etc/exports: /home/amit/documents 192.168.1.*(rw)
[02:28] <bon1212> Seveas, how do i get the file?
[02:28] <refuze2looze> to share it with every ip that begins with 192.168.1
[02:29] <Seveas> bon1212, from the same place as you get the iso :)
[02:29] <antisocialboris> is there anything i can do? i need to get apt working again
[02:29] <St^Anger^19m> Revellion: cat /media/hda6/Karl 2/Karl/Toscana Rome 2005/Final.wmv | mencoder -aspect 16:9 -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vbitrate=800:vcodec=mpeg2video -ofps 25 -
[02:29] <Kyynara> after installing breezy, I can't seem to get to gnome
[02:29] <St^Anger^19m> i did all this
[02:29] <Seveas> antisocialboris, you can pray that level3 solves their problems
[02:30] <St^Anger^19m> but its not finding the source file
[02:30] <antisocialboris> what is level 3?
[02:30] <Kyynara> when I try gdm start it just fails on me
[02:30] <Seveas> refuze2looze, should work
[02:30] <Seveas> refuze2looze, try (rw,async) though
[02:30] <antisocialboris> is it just down cos everyone is upgrading?
[02:30] <_iGadget_> Err http://se.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages
[02:30] <derchilligephil|> how can i add a group to access a folder
[02:30] <_iGadget_> grrrr
[02:31] <_iGadget_> 404 Not Found [IP: 130.239.18.137 80] 
[02:31] <Seveas> _iGadget_, http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security etc....
[02:31] <_iGadget_> Seveas: whoops... that'd do it ;)
[02:31] <Seveas> refuze2looze, nice nfs mount options for fstab: rw,soft,bg,intr,noauto,rsize=32678,wsize=32678,tcp,timeo=600
[02:31] <mon> anyone here plays quake4?
[02:32] <_iGadget_> Seveas: finallly, working! Thanks :)
[02:32] <bon1212> How can I run something as root, if i do sudo PROGRAM  i get cannot display error?
[02:32] <Seveas> bon1212, as a *normal* user, do sudo $PROGRAM
[02:32] <spiral> hmmm, does anyone know if openoffice2 final is going to be backported to breezy ?
[02:32] <refuze2looze> Seveas, thanks.. i'll look into what that all means =)
[02:32] <Seveas> but don't run too much as root
[02:32] <Seveas> refuze2looze, it means nfs mounts will suck less :)
[02:32] <BooZee> does the backports work already?
[02:33] <Seveas> no
[02:33] <bon1212> Seveas, thats what I just did, and I get cannot display error
[02:33] <apokryphos> it's actually best to always use gksudo/kdesu when you run a graphical program as root
[02:33] <refuze2looze> Seveas, lol
[02:33] <Seveas> apokryphos, true
[02:33] <Seveas> apokryphos, and to use my gksu package which has the nice fading effect enabled ;)
[02:33] <apokryphos> heh
[02:33] <bon1212> apokryphos, thx that worked
[02:33] <BooZee> are the backports working already?
[02:34] <apokryphos> oh yeah, they took that out didn't they?
[02:34] <Seveas> BooZee, no
[02:34] <Seveas> apokryphos, yeah
[02:34] <BooZee> thank you
[02:34] <Seveas> I was pissed off about it, so I re-enabled it
[02:34] <tarzeau> anyone's play http://bub-n-bros.sf.net with me?
[02:34] <BooZee> when will they be up and running?
[02:34] <Seveas> (note: it is off for a good readon: it eats cpu power)
[02:34] <apokryphos> it's nice, but it'd probably annoy me after a while (though they didn't take it out because of that)
[02:35] <TG__> Is there any way to be able to play sound from 2 different sources (for example flash and beepMP)? When i run flash, and then run Beep, beep gives me an error...
[02:35] <Seveas> TG__, yes, by not switching esd off...
[02:35] <St^Anger^19m> Revellion: cat /media/hda6/Karl 2/Karl/Toscana Rome 2005/Final.wmv | mencoder -aspect 16:9 -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vbitrate=800:vcodec=mpeg2video -ofps 25 -   :: I did all of this...but its not finding the source file
[02:35] <TG__> Seveas: what's esd and where do i turn it on?
[02:35] <JoNnY5> anyone help with a movie prob??
[02:36] <Seveas> TG__, it's the sound server and it's switched on by default, so you must have switched it off at a certain point
[02:36] <TG__> Seveas: ok... could you tell me how i can reenable it?
[02:36] <Seveas> TG__, I don't know what you did to switch it off...
[02:36] <TG__> ah :)
[02:37] <Seveas> look at system -> prefs -> sound
[02:37] <Seveas> is the sound server enabled there?
[02:37] <Seveas> if so: ps aux | grep esd
[02:37] <Seveas> does that say something?
[02:37] <Seveas> if so: lsof /dev/dsp
[02:37] <Piero> does anyone know how ban a ip address from ssh access after many failed access (brute force attack)?
[02:37] <JoNnY5> downloaded a couple of .mov clips and tried to play on Mplayer Totem and Xine also downloaded latest codecs and stuff still won't play
[02:37] <Kyynara> does anyone have any ideas about why my gnome fails when I try to start it up
[02:37] <Seveas> and put the output of that on a pastebin
[02:37] <Kyynara> I just installed breezy
[02:37] <Seveas> !info kismet
[02:38] <ubotu> kismet: (Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2005.08.R1-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 983 kB, Installed size: 2920 kB
[02:38] <Bonzodog> Kyynara, what actually happens when you fire up breezy?
[02:38] <corincole> testing
[02:38] <Bonzodog> It sounds like an X config problem
[02:38] <antisocialboris> is anyone else having problems with apt-get update?
[02:38] <TG__> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/401838
[02:38] <Kyynara> everything seems pretty fine but when it comes to starting up gnome it gives me the bloody red [failed]  thingy... :)
[02:39] <bon1212> Seveas, I cant find a file just the Md5 number? is that what i need?
[02:39] <apokryphos> antisocialboris: what errors are you getting? Post them in #flood
[02:39] <Hobbsee> antisocialboris: using australian mirrors, no, apart from a gpg error
[02:39] <Bonzodog> so you don't even get the GDM login screen?
[02:39] <Kyynara> nope
[02:39] <Bonzodog> does it report an error with X?
[02:39] <SpudULike> What GUI tools are there to allow me to change fstab?  I need to add an entry for an lvm filesystem on a second hard drive.
[02:39] <Piero> antisocialboris, what kind of problem?
[02:39] <apokryphos> Kyynara: what happens when you try to startx?
[02:39] <Kyynara> can't remember, is there somehow I can check it
[02:40] <bon1212> How can I check a Md5 sum, I have the Sum and i have the file location so whats the syntax????
[02:40] <gma> it's a while since I looked for it, but what happened to /etc/init.d/iptables ?
[02:40] <Bonzodog> let it boot, kick you to the console, then login, and type 'startx'
[02:40] <Kyynara> startx?
[02:40] <gma> better yet, how do you make firewall rules permanent these days?
[02:40] <gma> (on breezy)
[02:40] <apokryphos> Kyynara: yes; that command in the console session
[02:40] <Hobbsee> SpudULike: not sure about gui, but it's a textfile, so you can use sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and edit it there
[02:41] <calv1> hi!
[02:41] <_iGadget_> bon1212: man md5sum
[02:41] <bon1212> can anyone help me with checking an Md5 sum plz?
[02:41] <calv1> I got  a problem trying to install inkscape!
[02:41] <Kyynara> hmm... well that worked :)
[02:41] <bon1212> _iGadget_, all my man files are gone my install is screwed
[02:41] <_iGadget_> whoops
[02:41] <Kyynara> could you explain what I've done so that I know what I did? :)
[02:41] <bon1212> can someone just tell me the syntax plz
[02:42] <dbug> anyone konws the comand to see in console the charset list ?
[02:42] <Bonzodog> you've just told uit literally to start X- the GUI in linux
[02:42] <bon1212> is it just md5sum SUM /dir  ????
[02:42] <gma> bon1212, type md5sum --help
[02:42] <gma> and you'll see everything
[02:42] <gma> I think it only operates on individual files
[02:42] <Bonzodog> Gnome runs on X windows which is the GUI environment for linux
[02:42] <bon1212> GMA  -Not Found..???
[02:43] <bon1212> Can someone just tell me the way to do it plz?
[02:43] <gma> bon1212, then it's not installed, or not in your path
[02:43] <bon1212> Its installed
[02:43] <gma> type "echo $PATH" and paste the results
[02:43] <bon1212> just the man pages and help and all the docs are gone
[02:43] <gma> bon1212, type "echo $PATH" and paste the results
[02:43] <Kyynara> Bonzodog: so are there any diffrences, or...
[02:43] <steigweis> who has made an update from hoary to breezy? i am new to ubuntu and have never made that. is that easily managable?
[02:43] <bon1212> Please Don't repaeat
[02:43] <_iGadget_> bon1212: try md5 and then press [tab] 
[02:44] <apokryphos> steigweis: very easy; check the topic
[02:44] <bon1212> Yea it finished it
[02:44] <SpudULike> Hobbsee: I want to be able to mount an lvm filesystem that is on a second hard drive.  Surely that's done in fstab and not apt.source.
[02:44] <Bonzodog> Kyynara, well, normally, X and Gnome start automatically
[02:44] <bon1212> it put the sum there when I did tab
[02:44] <Bonzodog> and you get the gdm login screen
[02:44] <_iGadget_> bon1212: then it's in your path
[02:44] <steigweis> apokryphos: appreciatad
[02:44] <steigweis> e
[02:44] <Hobbsee> SpudULike: shoot, sorry...let me get the correct one...
[02:44] <bon1212> I know it is, like i said
[02:44] <apokryphos> Kyynara: GDM should really startup automatically. Next time you're brought to that prompt, just sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:44] <_iGadget_> bon1212: but md5sum --help doesn't output anything??
[02:44] <bon1212> It out puts --Not Found
[02:45] <_iGadget_> bon1212: then I guess your md5sum is f*cked as well
[02:45] <_iGadget_> wouldn't trust it then
[02:45] <bon1212> I have no Docs, Man pages
[02:45] <Kyynara> apokryphos: I did do that a couple of times before i did the startx... and that failed me
[02:45] <bon1212> no nothing has mans or helps
[02:45] <Hobbsee> SpudULike: not sure about gui, but it's a textfile, so you can use sudo gedit /etc/fstab and edit it - correct one this time!
[02:45] <apokryphos> Kyynara: with what error?
[02:45] <Kyynara> will it work after this, or should I conf something
[02:45] <bon1212> thats why i need to check this iso so I can reinstall
[02:45] <tewk> How can I turn off acpi, noacpi doesn't seem to work, what does pci=noacpi do?
[02:45] <Kyynara> it didn't give me any errors it just failed
[02:45] <Kyynara> the [failed]  box
[02:46] <Dav1> How do i update to the new version oif ubuntu
[02:46] <bon1212> So can someone plz tell me how to use md5sum to check a file with the sum please???
[02:46] <apokryphos> Kyynara: then you should try sudo killall gdm, then redo the command
[02:46] <Kyynara> ok
[02:46] <_iGadget_> bon1212: try md5sum -bc [md5-file]  [targetfile] 
[02:46] <bon1212> thx
[02:46] <Hobbsee> !tell Dav1 about upgrade2breezy
[02:46] <SpudULike> Hobbsee: You had me worried there for a mo'!  Trouble is, I don't know enough about lvm and I was hoping a GUI might just make the problem 'point'n'click' go away.
[02:46] <hawking> how can i change my keyboard configuration?
[02:46] <_iGadget_> bon1212: maybe it's the other way around, not sure
[02:47] <Hobbsee> SpudULike: fdisk -l, paste the output to pastebin
[02:47] <Hobbsee> SpudULike: then send us the link
[02:47] <bon1212> _iGadget_, I dun gave an Md5 file, i just have the actual SUM, i got it from the Ubuntu site, it didnt have a file..???
[02:47] <_jason> good morning, does anyone here use scilab?
[02:47] <gma> bon1212, this is from my --help "Usage: md5sum [OPTION]  [FILE] ..."
[02:47] <SpudULike> Hobbsee: pastebin is a channel ???
[02:47] <gma> bon1212, "or:  md5sum [OPTION]  --check [FILE] "
[02:47] <canindya> hawking : system > prefereces > keyboard
[02:47] <ponk> I need help with the damn partitions...
[02:48] <bon1212> I dunno what that means
[02:48] <_iGadget_> bon1212: well, maybe the sum will work as well
[02:48] <gma> bon1212, just type "md5sum <filename>"
[02:48] <bon1212> i just need to kow where to put 126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d61  and where to put the file location
[02:48] <Hobbsee> !tell SpudULike about pastebin
[02:48] <Bonzodog> SpudULike, go to http://pastebin.com
[02:48] <gma> bon1212, forget the big long string of numbers
[02:48] <bon1212> gma, then how would it know what to check it against?
[02:48] <gma> bon1212, md5sum <filename> and it 'll print out the sum for that file
[02:48] <gma> then you can just compare 'em
[02:49] <gma> far easier than typing the damned thing in
[02:49] <bon1212> oh yea I can compare a string that big by eye
[02:49] <bon1212> no way
[02:49] <Bonzodog> it calulates the number from the file integrity check
[02:49] <gma> to be honest, if the first 8 characters match you're in
[02:49] <_iGadget_> bon1212: then you're just lazy
[02:49] <bon1212> No Im not lazy
[02:49] <Hobbsee> ponk: what's your question?  i cant see it
[02:49] <bon1212> I just cant be sure by checking it from eye
[02:49] <gma> bon1212, try this then md5sum file > md5.out
[02:49] <ponk> I have an ex3 partition and a swap partition with mandriva on them. I want to overwrite it with ubuntu, but I cant see such opthin in the installer...
[02:49] <bon1212> and I know something is wrong cause the base install failed last time
[02:50] <Dav1> how to upgrade to breezy without the new cd
[02:50] <gma> put the other one in a file, and then do "diff md5.out otherfile"
[02:50] <gma> if you don't get output they match
[02:50] <Bonzodog> I just md5sums are fun :))
[02:50] <Hobbsee> ponk: pick the option to erase the entire disk, then pick auto partition :)
[02:50] <SpudULike> Hobbsee: Ah, I see.  Pasted.
[02:50] <gma> Dav1, it's on the wiki
[02:50] <Bonzodog> md5sums are fun :))
[02:50] <Hobbsee> SpudULike: link to it?
[02:50] <bon1212> Okay doesn anyone know the proper way to chjeck an Md5sum actually using Md5sum??
[02:50] <_iGadget_> ohwell...
[02:50] <ponk> but I have xp on the disk too... I dont want to delete it...
[02:51] <Dav1> so i will have to get a new version on a cd
[02:51] <mirak> clearlooks theme for gnome looks much better than ubuntu default theme don't you think ?
[02:51] <Enlite> whats the command to view the snmp stuff on a system using the community name?
[02:51] <noodle> ok i've installed ubuntu, and then reinstalled xp for the 189032173788 time and now i'm wondering if i can .tar.gz my entire windows partition for backup?
[02:51] <SpudULike> Hobbsee: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d3448
[02:51] <gma> bon1212, you're an arsey fucker aren't you
[02:51] <gma> bon1212, hang on, I'll check
[02:51] <Hobbsee> ponk: then you need to hit manual partitioning, delete the ext3 one, delete the swap one, leave the ntfs one where it is, then hit autopartition
[02:51] <ponk>  but I have xp on the disk too... I dont want to delete it...
[02:51] <Dav1> !tell Dav1 update to breezy via internet
[02:52] <ponk> what ntfs?? I have like that: one HD, 30GB win xp, 10gb linux with swap
[02:52] <bon1212> gma, i need to know if I have bad media or not this is the ONLY way to check it for sure, im not repartitioning and trying to install again, to get the same error, again then have to reinstall warty again
[02:52] <canindya> ponk: do you have partitions in your hdd or you installed other OS in whole disk?
[02:52] <aimaz> does anyone know if ppp is the the breezy kernel? it doesn't seem to be a module
[02:53] <Hobbsee> ponk: sorry, the ntfs is your XP partition
[02:53] <bon1212> ponk, NTFS is XP thats the FS XP uses that or Fat32
[02:53] <SpudULike> OK, so I am now officially sad.  I now find myself reading other people pastbins. Shoot me someone!
[02:53] <ponk> I own a copy of partition magic, and I can make partition easly with that. how can I make the installer use the partitions I made?
[02:53] <BooZee> anybody here knows Eclipse ?
[02:53] <gma> bon1212, to use the --check option you need a text file in the format of the output of md5sum
[02:53] <ranf> aimaz, look in /boot/config tab
[02:53] <gimmulf> Wierd OpenOffice only have fonts i've never heard of :)
[02:54] <gma> bon1212, so I just made one to test it with "1399d23.....  filename" in it
[02:54] <canindya> ponk: can you identify which partition you made for linux while installing ubuntu??
[02:54] <gma> if you make a file like that then you can just go "md5sum -c foo" where foo is the file with the sums and filenames in it
[02:54] <bon1212> gma,  k where do i get the md5 txt file for the x86 breezy iso?
[02:54] <ponk> can anyone help me in provate...
[02:54] <gma> bon1212, that'll be where you downloaded it from, hopefully
[02:54] <ponk> too many msgs confuse me... :-/
[02:55] <aimaz> ranf, "CONFIG_PPP=m
[02:55] <aimaz> " that means i should have it as a module right?
[02:55] <bon1212> it just had the SUMS no files see http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/MD5SUMS
[02:55] <gma> bon1212, look, you really don't need a file. I've never done it this way and I've been doing this kind of thing for 10 years
[02:55] <ranf> aimaz, I think so.
[02:55] <gma> comparing them visually is easier than you'd think
[02:55] <Hobbsee> SpudULike: figuring out what it is
[02:55] <gma> and if your iso is only different from the correct one by a few bytes the md5 output will be totally different
[02:56] <bon1212> gma, I dun wanna go through all this again, i need to see why the breezy failed on me last time
[02:56] <gma> sure
[02:56] <gma> md5sum file.iso
[02:56] <gma> then get on the net and find it
[02:56] <gma> shit, you could probably google for it
[02:56] <bon1212> ??
[02:56] <jinete69> hola cambrones
[02:56] <gma> (i.e. google for the results)
[02:56] <bon1212> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/MD5SUMS  its not here
[02:57] <gma> oh
[02:57] <gma> what's your file called?
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> actually doesn't k3b check the iso's md5 ?
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> mine always does ...
[02:57] <bon1212> its the x86 one
[02:57] <Hobbsee> SpudULike: try http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3449
[02:57] <bon1212> i burnt it in windows
[02:57] <bon1212> on a DVDRW
[02:57] <gma> then you want the md5sum for the i386 one
[02:58] <bon1212> yea
[02:58] <gma> check the linke on the /releases/5.10/ page
[02:58] <jinete69> ...
[02:58] <gma> does md5sum print this 126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d61?
[02:58] <bon1212> that where the link i just showed ya is from
[02:58] <Kyynara> apokryphos: gnome still fails when I try /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:58] <apokryphos> Kyynara: no error message at all?
[02:58] <bon1212> How can i possibly tell by eye if its off one digit?
[02:58] <apokryphos> Kyynara: hoary or breezy?
[02:59] <Kyynara> no error message
[02:59] <Kyynara> it just fails
[02:59] <Kyynara> breezy
[02:59] <gma> bon1212, I just tried to explain, it won't be off one digit
[02:59] <bon1212> theres no way
[02:59] <Kyynara> I just installed breezy a couple of hours ago
[02:59] <gma> and I gave you a way of checking it anyway earlier, with diff
[02:59] <apokryphos> Kyynara: you tried killing it too first?
[02:59] <apokryphos> Kyynara: did you follow all of the instructions on the wiki?
[02:59] <Kyynara> sudo killall gdm rish?
[02:59] <gma> is your iso file called ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso (on your disk)?
[02:59] <apokryphos> Kyynara: rish??
[02:59] <Enlite> what port does snmp traffic run on
[02:59] <bon1212> omg, why cant i just use the md5sum program thats why its there?
[02:59] <Kyynara> right
[02:59] <Kyynara> I meant
[02:59] <bon1212> gma yes it is
[03:00] <jinete69> .
[03:00] <Kyynara> hmm... well I did forget to do the first part...
[03:00] <apokryphos> errrr
[03:00] <apokryphos> big problems
[03:00] <gma> bon1212, in that case, copy the MD5SUMS file to the same directory as it
[03:00] <Kyynara> which might have been quite a blow to the installation
[03:00] <apokryphos> anyway, gotta go for a bit; back in 10 mins or so
[03:00] <gma> bon1212, and then type "md5sum -c MD5SUMS"
[03:00] <gma> bon1212, press return, and it should say ok or not
[03:00] <bon1212> I DONT have a file, we went over this, there is no file
[03:00] <Kyynara> but if I do them now...
[03:00] <bon1212> just a sum
[03:00] <bon1212> there is no file
[03:00] <sunshine82> i have the driver for my ame cu-98a webcam download onto my computer but i need to install it i've tried tar -xzvf that not workin what should i do
[03:00] <gma> bon1212, you only have a CD? because I missed that part of the explanation...
[03:00] <bon1212> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/MD5SUMS  <-- SEE
[03:01] <stewski> how do u check which version of ubuntu u are running?
[03:01] <bon1212> I have an ISO
[03:01] <bon1212> no md5 file
[03:01] <HappyFool> stewski: look in System -> About ubuntu
[03:01] <sunshine82> the file id tar.bz2
[03:01] <bon1212> just the raw some from that link
[03:01] <ranf> bon1212, File | save as...
[03:01] <gma> bon1212, okay. download the MD5SUMS file that you gave me a link to earlier
[03:01] <bon1212> theres no file
[03:01] <bon1212> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/MD5SUMS
[03:01] <stewski> happyfool well its says Im on 5.04 but I just did an upgrade
[03:01] <SpudULike> colin@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -a
[03:01] <SpudULike> mount: unknown filesystem type 'lvm'
[03:01] <gma> bon1212, copy the MD5SUMS file to the same directory as the iso
[03:01] <gma> bon1212, and then type "md5sum -c MD5SUMS"
[03:01] <HappyFool> stewski: how did you upgrade?
[03:01] <bon1212> WHAT FILE?
[03:02] <stewski> via synaptic
[03:02] <bon1212> I have no file
[03:02] <bon1212> just the SUM
[03:02] <SpudULike> Bah!. Sorry, didn't mean to paste that hear.
[03:02] <gma> bon1212, I'm about to conclude you're a bot
[03:02] <bon1212> theres no file on that page
[03:02] <bon1212> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/MD5SUMS
[03:02] <SpudULike> here! Bah! Bah!
[03:02] <gma> bon1212, right, that URL you just posted
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> stewski, lsb_release -a
[03:02] <gma> bon1212, save the text to a file called MD5SUMS
[03:02] <bon1212> thats a web page with the sums on it
[03:02] <gma> bon1212, save it
[03:02] <bon1212> im lost
[03:02] <gma> bon1212, okay, another approach
[03:03] <gma> bon1212, forget what you're trying to do, and follow these commands parrot fashion
[03:03] <HappyFool> stewski: did you change repositories from 'hoary' to 'breezy' then?
[03:03] <stewski> cheers wickedpuppy
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> :P
[03:03] <gma> bon1212, wget http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/MD5SUMS
[03:03] <stewski> 5.10 all present and correct seems faster and new spalsh screen as xloads
[03:03] <stewski> yup Happyfool
[03:03] <gma> bon1212, (that should download it and you'll have a file called MD5SUMS in your local dir)
[03:03] <sunshine82> happyfool it me
[03:03] <gma> bon1212, md5sum -c MD5SUMS
[03:04] <gma> bon1212, (that'll do everything you need assuming iso is in current directory too)
[03:04] <HappyFool> stewski: well, if it matters that About Ubuntu is right to you, maybe install ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base (if they're not installed)
[03:04] <sunshine82> happyfool i had to register a different nick name because it turned out i was usin someone elses
[03:04] <HappyFool> sunshine82: hi :). computer working?
[03:04] <stewski> I did them but its no biggy as long as all the important stuffs up to date
[03:04] <bon1212> gave me a buncha errors... I cant out it in the same DIR as the ISO cause its in a read only dir (NTFS Part)
[03:05] <stewski> thats one smooth upgrade
[03:05] <gma> bon1212, okay, well if you insist on doing it with the -c option (the proper way, as you call it) you'll have to copy the iso somewhere else first
[03:05] <sunshine82> happyfool yea i havent broke it yet im just tryin to get skype and my webcam to work i got the driver download onto my computer but i cant download onto my computer
[03:05] <gma> bon1212, paste the errors
[03:05] <bon1212> I cant call it remotely?
[03:05] <Welly> alright.. got samba working, i've created a share of /var/www which has a file group of www-data. i've added my user into the group and now I can browse but can't rename or put files into the directory from my windows machine
[03:05] <gma> bon1212, in #flood if they're long
[03:05] <Welly> is there something in samba i need to do to make it writable?
[03:05] <gma> bon1212, not according to what I've read
[03:05] <bon1212> gma no the errors just mean the ISO isnt in the same DIR
[03:05] <sunshine82> i have the driver for my ame cu-98a webcam download onto my computer but i need to install it i've tried tar -xzvf that not workin what should i do
[03:06] <gma> bon1212, you may be able to edit MD5SUMS to put another path in there, but I can't really talk you through that
[03:06] <sunshine82> the file is tar.bz2
[03:06] <gma> bon1212, would be quite hard
[03:06] <_jason> is there a command that will convert whitespace to escaped characters?  so tabs get turned to \t etc
[03:06] <gma> bon1212, do you understand the principle of how this is supposed to work? if so I can do something else as you'll be able to work it out
[03:06] <sunshine82> does anyone know how to fix skype
[03:07] <gma> bon1212, but me talking you through editing a file isn't going to help you much!
[03:07] <ranf> sunshine82, instead of z use j for .bz2
[03:07] <HappyFool> bother
[03:07] <HappyFool> i need to disable Ctl-Alt-Backspace
[03:07] <bon1212> gma, okay lets start over, I had a bad install i burnt the ISO to a DVDRW, and tried to intall it, it failed during base install it was fatal, so I grabbed a old copy of warty, I installed that, tahts what I am on now, I tried to upgrade from warty to breezy and screwed that all up, now I dunno what to do
[03:08] <HappyFool> bon1212: maybe upgrade from warty to hoary first, then hoary to breezy?
[03:08] <HaRDaWaY> hello
[03:08] <LokeDK> is there a way to block the internet connection to a application?
[03:08] <sunshine82> happyfool it didnt work tar -xjvf
[03:08] <bon1212> HappyFool, I would but i dunno if i can my apt is all screwed now, cause I got halfway through
[03:08] <Piero> does anyone know how ban a ip address from ssh access after many failed access (brute force attack)?
[03:09] <gma> bon1212, if you tried to go straight from warty to breezy you will probably have got in a mess
[03:09] <HappyFool> bon1212: yeah, i was thinking reinstall warty first
[03:09] <gma> like HappyFool said, restart with warty, then go hoary and breezy
[03:09] <Piero> does anyone know how ban a ip address from ssh access after many failed access (brute force attack)?
[03:09] <gma> Piero, you could firewall it
[03:09] <HappyFool> sunshine82: i missed part of this conversation - what are you trying to do?
[03:09] <Dav1> hi
[03:10] <bon1212> Sigh.. that would take a very Loong time, I mean I have the ISO, and i have a DVDRW i could reformat and write again, but i dun want the same thing to happen
[03:10] <gma> Piero, if ssh is compiled with the right options you can use /etc/hosts.deny too
[03:10] <HappyFool> Piero: maybe 'man hosts.deny' will help you?
[03:10] <_jason> ha I just spent 10 minutes figuring out that the md5 checksum line needs two spaces between the checksum and the filename... WHY
[03:10] <gma> bon1212, I've told you how to do this so many different ways
[03:10] <Dav1> !tell dav1 web browsers for ubuntu linux
[03:10] <gma> bon1212, can't you just compare the fucking strings?
[03:10] <Emanuelez> hello
[03:10] <bon1212> gma,  I musta missed that, how?
[03:10] <Piero> but, how can I say to block an ip address automatically after failed attempts?
[03:10] <HappyFool> bon1212: what is the md5sum of the .iso ?
[03:10] <gma> paste the output of md5sum isofile and I'll tell you if its good
[03:10] <bon1212> one sec
[03:10] <gma> how's that?
[03:10] <HappyFool> gma: ah, you read my mind
[03:10] <Dav1> what web browsers are compatible with ubuntu linux 5.04
[03:11] <sunshine82> happyfool it worked sorry i put sudo in front of tar that why it wasnt workin
[03:11] <sunshine82> happyfoo im tryin to set up my webcam
[03:11] <Emanuelez> does anybocy know why my wireless card works much better on windows compared to linux? i'm using ndiswrapper and while i'm on windows the card is much more sensitive to weak signals. any hint?
[03:11] <bon1212> HappyFool,  how do i Get it if its on my windows part still?
[03:11] <oris_wolfbane> is ther a way to cahnge the res of the login screen, but have the user choose ther own res?
[03:11] <bon1212> HappyFool, I have the Part mounted
[03:11] <HappyFool> bon1212: you're running warty at the moment?
[03:11] <propagandhi> Dav1: OPERA
[03:11] <bon1212> HappyFool, Yes
[03:11] <propagandhi> Dav1: Firefox
[03:12] <sunshine82> happyfool i've got the file on the computer now but how do i like us it to set up my webcam
[03:12] <HappyFool> bon1212: ok, do you know *where* it's mounted to?
[03:12] <propagandhi> Dav1: IE when using wine or crossover office
[03:12] <propagandhi> Dav1: Mozilla
[03:12] <HappyFool> sunshine82: i've never setup a webcam, i don't know
[03:12] <bon1212> HappyFool, Yea i made it mount to /win
[03:12] <gnu2it2> what is bicyclerepeir ?
[03:12] <HappyFool> sunshine82: if you've extracted the tarball, look in the directory just created for a 'README' or 'INSTALL' file
[03:12] <gma> gnu2it2, a refactoring browser for python
[03:13] <propagandhi> Dav1: and many more
[03:13] <HappyFool> bon1212: ok, and do you know where in your windows partition the .iso file is?
[03:13] <gma> right, I've got stuff to do
[03:13] <bon1212> HappyFool, Yes
[03:13] <gma> good luck
[03:13] <ColonelKernel> how do I get w32codecs for breezy?
[03:14] <HappyFool> bon1212: ok, it should be as simple as 'md5sum /win/path/to/iso/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso'  (this is on the command-line, obviously)
[03:14] <MEPHiST0> greetings @ll
[03:14] <Dav1> mozilla and firefox i believe are the same thing exept mozilla is who made firefox
[03:14] <HappyFool> bon1212: and obviously /path/to/iso/ must be changed to whatever it is
[03:14] <HappyFool> bon1212: maybe put the whole filename + path in double quotes, especially if there are spaces in it (like for 'Documents and Settings'
[03:14] <GigaClon> mozilla is a suite
[03:14] <GigaClon> firefox is just the brozwer
[03:15] <bon1212> HappyFool, huh?
[03:15] <nubbe> m trying to install realplayer10 but I get error : ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:15] <sunshine82> happyfool ok but in readme it say edit the file type ~mak
[03:15] <HappyFool> bon1212: where is the iso on your C: ?
[03:15] <HappyFool> bon1212: the directory, i mean
[03:15] <sunshine82> happyfool the file it want me to edit is emptyt
[03:15] <gma> bon1212, have you managed to run "md5sum isofile" yet?
[03:15] <HappyFool> sunshine82: ok, so do that
[03:15] <bon1212> HappyFool, it wont let me do tab completeion after the sudo and md5sum i dunno how to get to the dir without tab completion???
[03:16] <gma> HappyFool, I think he's taking the piss
[03:16] <HappyFool> bon1212: ok, let's try this
[03:16] <Seveas> !find libstdc++.so.5
[03:16] <nubbe> !find libstdc++.so.5
[03:16] <HappyFool> bon1212:     find /win -iname '*.iso'      -- what is the output of that? don't paste more than 1 line here
[03:16] <Seveas> nubbe, keep an eye on ubotu, in a few minutes he'll tell you the answer :)
[03:16] <HappyFool> gma: hrm, i hope not
[03:17] <nubbe> okidoki, thanx
[03:17] <gimmulf> How do i get more fonts for OpenOffice?
[03:17] <gma> well so do I, and I hope we can get there
[03:17] <bon1212> dude i have over 3000 iso's on that box
[03:17] <gimmulf> i have like 100 fonts and i have never heard of them before :)
[03:17] <HappyFool> bon1212: ok,   then     find /win -iname ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[03:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libstdc++.so.5' returned no results.
[03:18] <bon1212> YAY /win/Documents and Settings/Sean/Desktop/CRAP/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[03:18] <HappyFool> bon1212: ok
[03:18] <sunshine82> happyfool i dont know where im meant to type #make im afraid i dont want to break the computer again
[03:18] <_jason> !tell ColonelKernel about w32codecs
[03:18] <sunshine82> happyfool where
[03:19] <HappyFool> bon1212:    md5sum "/win/Documents and Settings/Sean/Desktop/CRAP/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso"
[03:19] <HappyFool> sunshine82: you need to run 'make' in the directory you created
[03:19] <bon1212> its just blinking the cursor
[03:19] <HappyFool> sunshine82: there should be a file called 'Makefile' or 'makefile' there
[03:19] <HappyFool> bon1212: it's thinking
[03:19] <bon1212> Its taking to long this is a 3.5 Ghz box sittin on 4 Gigs of DDR2
[03:20] <nubbe> Seveas, I got libstdc++6 installed, do I need libstdc++5?  (I just followed the ubuntu starters guide)
[03:20] <Seveas> nubbe, eewww....
[03:20] <gma> bon1212, it's disk io that counts here
[03:20] <bon1212> 10,000 RPM .2ms seek time
[03:21] <sunshine82> happyfool this is what the first step say: Edit nw8xx_regedit.c, at the start there is some #define to choose your cam chip ( registers differs and the GTK utils doesn't do any autodetect ).
[03:21] <sunshine82> * Type :
[03:21] <sunshine82>  # make
[03:21] <sunshine82>  # su
[03:21] <sunshine82>  # modprobe videodev
[03:21] <sunshine82>  # insmod usbvideo.o
[03:21] <sunshine82>  # insmod nw802.o
[03:21] <HappyFool> sunshine82: oops
[03:21] <HappyFool> sunshine82: you pasted
[03:21] <sunshine82> sorry
[03:21] <calv1> mistake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!plz help
[03:21] <HappyFool> sunshine82: and Seveas was watching
[03:21] <calv1> i've lauch this: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:21] <calv1> now it runs under KDE :)
[03:21] <sunshine82> i know im sorry seveas
[03:21] <calv1> how to come back under gnome?
[03:21] <HappyFool> sunshine82: it looks like this is a fairly technical package
[03:22] <bon1212> HappyFool, I got it.. now what?
[03:22] <gma> bon1212, paste it here
[03:22] <bon1212> 126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d61
[03:22] <gma> bon1212, HappyFool, I've just compared it to the one on the net, and your iso is good
[03:22] <sunshine82> happyfool there is a makefile but what do i do with it
[03:22] <nubbe> Seveas, so Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide
[03:22] <nubbe>  is also "a bad thing" TM ???
[03:22] <bon1212> gma, how, i just now got it?
[03:22] <gma> I read it
[03:23] <bon1212> huh?
[03:23] <HappyFool> bon1212: compare with this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/MD5SUMS
[03:23] <gma> bon1212, and because I knew you'd ask, I wrote it to a file, edited MD5SUMS to remove extraneous crap, and diffed them
[03:23] <gma> bon1212, they're identical
[03:23] <bon1212> no i need a way for the computer to check it, not by eye
[03:23] <gma> bon1212, I checked it with a computer because you're such an anal moron
[03:23] <gma> same result
[03:23] <bon1212> gma, thats for the one YOU downloaded not the one I downloaded they could be different
[03:23] <HappyFool> heh
[03:23] <bon1212> thats the whole point of Md5Sum
[03:24] <HappyFool> bon1212: have you gone to the url i pointed at?
[03:24] <bon1212> and I would apreciate it if ya didnt call me names
[03:24] <HappyFool> bon1212: you will see the string '126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d61' there
[03:24] <bon1212> workin on it HappyFool
[03:24] <gma> bon1212, sorry, I've just spent ages trying to help you with this and you're telling me I don't know how to do it
[03:24] <gma> bon1212, takes the piss a bit if you ask me
[03:24] <bon1212> I never said that\
[03:24] <HappyFool> sunshine82: what happens if you run make ?
[03:25] <gma> bon1212, then accept that your iso is good. I checked it with my computer (using diff), and move on to working out what you're going to do
[03:25] <HappyFool> sunshine82: as long as you are not using sudo, you can't break the computer *too* much
[03:25] <bon1212> But how is you downloading the file and checking it against the SUm gunna help me.. think about it.. good you got a good download..  doesnt mean i did
[03:25] <gma> I downloaded the MD5SUMS file
[03:25] <gma> I didn't download the ISO
[03:25] <HappyFool> bon1212: you pasted your md5sum... we compared them. it looks the same
[03:25] <gma> then I edited MD5SUMS so it only had the sum in it for your iso
[03:25] <bon1212> where did ya get the sum from? for my ISO?
[03:25] <gma> then I wrote the sum you pasted here to another file
[03:25] <gma> then I ran diff against them both
[03:25] <gma> there were no differences
[03:25] <gma> bon1212, you pasted it here!
 126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d61    <--- remember this? ;)
[03:26] <bon1212> dude ya said it was the same exactly 45ms after I pasted it...?
[03:26] <breezyuser> hello cud anybody help me recover my su or sudo accounts?
[03:26] <gma> bon1212, I'm quick
[03:26] <bon1212> no
[03:26] <bon1212> there is no way ya did all that in less than a second its not possible
[03:26] <gma> bon1212, I had it all tee'd up waiting
[03:26] <gma> double click on a string with your mouse
[03:26] <gma> then click with middle button
[03:26] <gma> it pastes it
[03:26] <Bonzodog> bon1212: listen to him! for god sake, you've got a good ISO; just burn it and be done with it...please...
[03:26] <bon1212> that takes at least 3 seconds
[03:27] <gma> bon1212, good bye
[03:27] <bon1212> Bonzodog, I have burnt it and it DIDNT WORK
[03:27] <Bonzodog> you're just agravating people
[03:27] <HappyFool> bon1212: well, then look at http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/MD5SUMS already
[03:27] <HappyFool> bon1212: you will see the md5sum there
[03:27] <MenZa`> Hey, if I want to transfer music from my Windowsbox to my Ubuntu, how do I do it?
[03:27] <bon1212> ya I am check it
[03:27] <breezyuser> hello cud anybody help me recover my su or sudo accounts?
[03:27] <Bonzodog> ok...lets start at the install stage: what do you mean by it didn't work?
[03:27] <bon1212> So why did it fail to install and meltdown on me???
[03:27] <Enlite> When I do a 'snmpwalk -v1 -c communityname ipaddress' on my server I can see all the SNMP information, however when I run this command from another machine, I get 'No Response from IP' Is there something I need to enable to view the SNMP information from another machine?
[03:28] <ogra> bon1212, how fast did you burn it ?
[03:28] <bon1212> Bonzodog, It gives me a fatal error during base setup
[03:28] <bon1212> 2x
[03:28] <bon1212> Base Install  I mean
[03:28] <augustin> hello
[03:28] <ogra> bon1212, did you try the intrgrity check on the CD ?
[03:29] <bon1212> I dunno how?
[03:29] <Bonzodog> gma: go and get a cup of coffee; we will take it from here; you need a break
[03:29] <augustin> just a quick question: how do i do to add RAR support in Ubuntu please ? can't find any RAR package in Synaptic. what repository do i need to add ?
[03:29] <ogra> bon1212, you can get to it if you select "back" at any time in the install process, its one of the last menu options
[03:29] <Belutz> ubotu: tell MenZa` about samba
[03:29] <HappyFool> augustin: universe for unrar-free, and multiverse for unrar-nonfree
[03:29] <ogra> bon1212, try it (takes a while to check all files though)
[03:30] <bon1212> isnt that what its does, when it first starts when it says verify media integrety?
[03:30] <ProN00b> i got a folder with some subfolders with files in them, now i want to delete each of these subfolders that has less than 7 files in it, any idea ?
[03:30] <MenZa`> Ah, thanks Belutz.
[03:30] <tahorg> hi, anyone's using NetworkManager on breezy ?
[03:30] <augustin> HappyFool, how do i add multiverse please ? it doesn't say in the Wiki =/
[03:30] <HappyFool> !tell augustin about repositories
[03:30] <bon1212> ogra, I allready know the media is bad so shouldnt i just reburn it and try again..?
[03:30] <ogra> bon1212, nope... thats only a quick test... he integrity check checks ever md5sum of every file on the CD
[03:30] <tahorg> I dont find any info about it
[03:30] <HappyFool> augustin: let me know if what ubotu has just told you doesn't help
[03:31] <ogra> bon1212, yes, probably
[03:31] <Belutz> HappyFool, are you using kqemu?
[03:31] <calv1> it seems i'm transparent here :)
[03:31] <calv1> could i get a bit of help...2 minutes?
[03:31] <calv1> :)
[03:31] <Bonzodog> augustin:http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[03:31] <augustin> HappyFool, thanks, i know how to do but didn't know what to do. ubotu told me where to find a list of the repositories, i'll check it and come back to you if there was not enough info. thanks a lot =)
[03:31] <HappyFool> Belutz: no, straight qemu
[03:31] <Bonzodog> but change the word 'hoary' to breezy
[03:31] <HappyFool> Belutz: is kqemu much better?
[03:31] <augustin> Bonzodog, i was told to ignore the ubuntuguide, because it is outdated and all
[03:32] <Belutz> HappyFool, someone said that kqemu is qemu accelerator, so it might run faster
[03:32] <bon1212> ogra, what I am trying to figure out is how can I protect myself so this doesnt happen again... I only have one DVDRW.. no other usable media...  and if i partition these parts im using now, if it fails ill have to reinstall warty all over again just to get back here
[03:32] <Bonzodog> it's not that otdated
[03:32] <HappyFool> Belutz: i have been having major struggles to build a disk image
[03:32] <sunshine82> happyfool it say Launch xawtv or any V4L compatible app i download xawtv off synatic but it not workin what is v4l compatible
[03:32] <Belutz> HappyFool, build a disk image with qemu?
[03:33] <HappyFool> sunshine82: i think it's 'video for linux', but i don't know much more
[03:33] <Bonzodog> you just have to use a bit of intelligence/common sense and substitute 'hoary' for 'breezy'
[03:33] <ogra> bon1212, how often did you burn this dvd already ? my last one stopped after ~ 20 burns ... the are not built for eternity :)
[03:33] <HappyFool> Belutz: how do install grub etc ?
[03:33] <bon1212> And also How can I reformat the DVDRW, I cant install anything new cause my dpkg is broken??
[03:33] <bon1212> ogra it was brand new
[03:33] <ogra> hmm
[03:34] <Belutz> HappyFool, the disk image should be like a stand alone hdd, and the qemu is like a stand alone machine, just like vmware right?
[03:34] <HappyFool> Belutz: that's the idea, i think. I made a file with an mbr and partitions and installed grub and a kernel image, but it was a fair pain
[03:34] <ogra> bon1212, you have a ubuntu around to burn from ? then cdrecord is fairly easy to use to blank it
[03:34] <breezyuser> does anyone how to go into single user mode?
[03:34] <bon1212> will i have to install k3b and all depends from source!!??  *shivers*
[03:34] <HappyFool> Belutz: if there's an easy way, please tell me how :)
[03:34] <CzarAlex> Where can I find info in playing mpg's and wmv files? I already installed win32codecs.
[03:35] <sunshine82> does anyone know how i can see what on my v4l manager
[03:35] <HappyFool> breezyuser: you can boot in 'recovery mode'
[03:35] <bon1212> ogra im on ubuntu.. right now..
[03:35] <bon1212> the broken warty install
[03:35] <ogra> bon1212, great...
[03:35] <Belutz> HappyFool, you could read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com//WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo, just change it for using with hoary installation
[03:35] <breezyuser> HappyFool: No
[03:35] <ogra> bon1212, cdrecord --blank=fast --dev=/dev/hdX (replace X with the actual device letter)
[03:36] <breezyuser> HappyFool: I tried all sort of things like editing grub when booting to appen single, rescue etc
[03:36] <HappyFool> Belutz: oh, actually i want to play with realtime kernels. i'm just installing hoary for the hell of it
[03:36] <HappyFool> breezyuser: well, you could try 'sudo telinit 1'
[03:36] <bon1212> ogra how do i find out what the device is?
[03:37] <Belutz> HappyFool, oh... sorry then, i don't know how to play with the kernels :)
[03:37] <breezyuser> HappyFool: problem is sudo is not setup :(
[03:37] <alumno> why i cant talk en msn ?
[03:37] <HappyFool> breezyuser: ah
[03:37] <bon1212> alumno, use Gaim
[03:37] <alumno> i am using
[03:37] <alumno> it
[03:37] <bon1212> ogra and after i blank it what will I use to burn the ISO back to the disk?
[03:38] <sunshine82> i nedd to set up my webcam i got the driver on my system i've edit the file i think correctly but it would not run in xawtv how do i try it in something else that is v4l compatible
[03:38] <ogra> bon1212, ls -l /dev/cdrom should show the right name
[03:38] <HappyFool> breezyuser: how about booting up with a '1' at the end of the kernel parameters
[03:38] <alumno> i am connected to msn but when i put something to talk
[03:38] <Bonzodog> so tell it to set you up with a new msn account
[03:38] <alumno> i have one error
[03:38] <breezyuser> HappyFool: actuall when selecting "failsafe/recovery" kernel, it starts booting but instead of going into root single user. this freaking thing asks me "Enter root password for maintenance"
[03:38] <Bonzodog> which is?
[03:38] <ogra> bon1212, first blank it... i'll guide you ...
[03:38] <alumno> second
[03:38] <breezyuser> HappyFool: problem is where do I put 1?
[03:38] <alumno> a its ok
[03:38] <CzarAlex> where can I find info on customizing either gnome or kde to show those nice transparent windows and the little transparent system monitor on the side and all that cool stuff. The ubuntuforums.org Customization How-To's don't contain that and the forum is very specific on NOT posting requests there.
[03:38] <qmario> This is Xchat?
[03:39] <qmario> :)
[03:39] <Bonzodog> qmario: yes
[03:39] <CzarAlex> qmario, yes
[03:39] <qmario> Yuck!!!.
[03:39] <alumno> sound blaster creative 5.1 have drivers for linux ?
[03:39] <breezyuser> HappyFool: I disabled by root user, and sudo for my a/c was not setup now this nor that works.
[03:39] <Bonzodog> qmario: welcome to IRC
[03:39] <qmario> I am going back t Gaim.
[03:39] <bon1212> ogra This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command
[03:39] <bon1212> cdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting.
[03:39] <qmario> Hee hee.
[03:39] <Fanskapet> http://users.sidvicious.se/fanskapet/room/DSC00106.jpg
[03:39] <CzarAlex> qmario, you can customize the look. I have black background with white text
[03:39] <Fanskapet> ahh.. there isn't a more good looking laptop than this :P
[03:39] <bon1212> do i have to mount it?
[03:39] <ogra> bon1212, and you are sure its a RW media ?
[03:39] <bon1212> lol yes
[03:39] <bon1212> Its a DVDRW
[03:40] <breezyuser> HappyFool: manually loading kernel via commandline does not load ubuntu properly. cannot load /etc, /lib etc
[03:40] <ogra> bon1212, nope... no mounting required
[03:40] <Bonzodog> the default look is yucky
[03:40] <CzarAlex> Bonzodog, how? I really wanna learn how to get the transparent stuff to work.
[03:40] <alumno> Creative 5.1 sound blaster has driver for linux ?
[03:40] <Bonzodog> transparency has to be set up individually in each app
[03:40] <qmario> !Botsnack
[03:40] <ubotu> thanks qmario :)
[03:40] <alumno> ? pzl tell me
[03:41] <bon1212> ima try with blank=all
[03:41] <CzarAlex> Bonzodog, what menu is it under?
[03:41] <ogra> bon1212, are you sure your drive supports blanking then ? normally you can take such messages serious
[03:41] <bon1212> nope same error
[03:41] <CzarAlex> Bonzodog, config window behaviour?
[03:41] <Belutz> Fanskapet, wew... an acer ferrari
[03:41] <Fanskapet> :)
[03:41] <Fanskapet> indeed :)
[03:41] <bon1212> Yea i use it all the time, its a DVDrw drive
[03:41] <bon1212> 4x
[03:41] <CzarAlex> Bonzodog, or advanced > special windows settings
[03:41] <Fanskapet> Belutz: you have one too? :)
[03:41] <bon1212> it can read/write DVD and CD
[03:41] <Belutz> Fanskapet, no, but my friend have one acer ferrari 4000
[03:41] <Bonzodog> CzarAlex, private dialog
[03:42] <alumno> where can i get driver for creative sound blaster ?
[03:42] <wolki> hi! i'm planning to upgrade a relative's notebook from hoary to breezy. It has gone through warty->breezy with little problems. can ijust copy the complete home to a cd, reinstall and copy that home back?
[03:42] <bon1212> ogra here is our prob
[03:42] <bon1212> cdrecord: This version of cdrecord does not include DVD-R/DVD-RW support code.
[03:42] <Fanskapet> Belutz: ahh okey.. well this one is a 3200
[03:42] <bon1212> see that ogra
[03:42] <Fanskapet> bought it in january this year i think
[03:42] <ogra> bon1212, ouch
[03:42] <bon1212> and my dpkg is broke
[03:42] <Belutz> Fanskapet, it's still nice though, compare to my NEC Versa :p
[03:43] <ogra> bon1212, how ?
[03:43] <Belutz> wolki, yes you can do that
[03:43] <bon1212> i tried goin from warty to breezy, now it hass all theese half installed packages
[03:43] <jsgotangco> hey all
[03:43] <bon1212> ogra
[03:43] <kirola> ciao
[03:44] <wolki> thanks, belutz. usually i just copy the relevant files, but i'd like to do it with little effort, and especially to leave as much as possible like before (what she's used to)
[03:44] <Fanskapet> Belutz: ahh okey.. well yeah im happy with my laptop i can do the things i want to.
[03:44] <Fanskapet> Belutz: and like quake4 etc.. can be played on my xbox instead :)
[03:44] <ogra> bon1212, tried sudo apt-get -f install to fix them ?
[03:44] <bon1212> ogra, ill glady let ya come on my box via ssh if ya think ya can fix my dpkg
[03:44] <Fanskapet> will buy me xbox360 together with my LCD-TV this winter :)
[03:44] <Belutz> wolki, when you reinstall, try to make a separate partition for /home
[03:45] <bon1212> ogra yup
[03:45] <Belutz> Fanskapet, cool :D
[03:45] <ogra> bon1212, btw, warty -> breezy wont work ... as stated in the upgrade notes you need hoary inbetween
[03:45] <Fanskapet> Belutz: HDTV :P
[03:45] <Fanskapet> yumyum
[03:45] <Belutz> Fanskapet, :-)
[03:45] <bon1212> ogra, yea i wish the guy in here that told me to do this would have known that
[03:45] <CzarAlex> How do I get that system monitor to show up on the side of my desktop? Ya know, the tower that states cpu usage, memory, time, lan connections.. in screenshots, i dont see it taking up a spot on the task bar.
[03:46] <bob2> you mean gkrellm?
[03:46] <Belutz> CzarAlex, try installing gkrellm
[03:46] <_iGad_idle> Fanskapet: to bad xbox360 is a MS product ;)
[03:46] <bob2> only if you have entirely too much screen real estate
[03:46] <ogra> bon1212, can you paste the errors to a astebin ?
[03:46] <ogra> *pastebin
[03:46] <CzarAlex> Belutz, thank you.
[03:46] <bon1212> yea just a sec
[03:46] <Fanskapet> _iGad_idle: indeed. but it's a damn good gaming-station :)
[03:47] <Whistler> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:47] <Fanskapet> hope it will be modable such as xbox.
[03:47] <Whistler> how can i solve this?
[03:47] <_iGad_idle> Fanskapet: according to the specs, it has to be indeed.
[03:47] <Bonzodog> CzarAlex: do you have an msn account? freenode is objecting to me using dialog
[03:47] <Belutz> Fanskapet, install ubuntu in your xbox, lol :-P
[03:47] <_iGad_idle> Fanskapet: well... I guess MS would have learned from xbox1
[03:47] <CzarAlex> Bonzodog, yes: therealdealmobile@hotmail.com
[03:47] <Fanskapet> well nothing is un-hackable :)
[03:48] <CzarAlex> Bonzodog, loggin in now.
[03:48] <Whistler> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables how can i solve this problem?
[03:48] <bon1212> ogra http://pastebin.com/401883
[03:48] <Fanskapet> but maybe it's not possible to make modchip as good as for xbox
[03:48] <_iGad_idle> Fanskapet: they'll probably DRM the entire machine
[03:48] <sunshine82> does anyone know about xawtv
[03:48] <HappyFool> Whistler: have you installed 'build-essential' ?
[03:48] <_iGad_idle> sunshine82: I know it exists... It's on my to-do list. What about it?
[03:48] <queuetue> Is there a guide somewhere to set up a virtual mail system under ubuntu?  spamassasin, virtual mailboxes, virus checking, user access to password, etc over web, webmail, etc?
[03:49] <Whistler> HappyFool thx for help i havent thought of that :D
[03:49] <ogra> bon1212, uncleasn solution, but will work:
[03:49] <ogra> bon1212, sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libopenh323-1.15.3c2_1.15.6-1_i386.deb
[03:49] <ogra> bon1212, same commad with the second file
[03:50] <bon1212> what second file???
[03:50] <bon1212> ogra what second file?
[03:51] <ogra> bon1212, /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard-config_0.6-5_all.deb
[03:52] <bon1212> ogra k now what?
[03:52] <ogra> ?
[03:52] <sunshine82> _iGad_idle im tryin to get my webcam to work the final step is to run xawtv but it would not run im at the xawtv webiste now and it said to run it on terminam i've done that and the result is open /dev/video0: No such device
[03:52] <sunshine82>  now when i read the notes on the website it say Means there is no driver module for the hardware loaded yet. Fix your hardware setup. but i dont know how to do that
[03:52] <bon1212> Apt-get update cdrecord?
[03:52] <sunshine82> seveas that wasnt a aste i just had alot to explain
[03:52] <Mattias> how do i get japanese input in ubuntu? seems scim doesnt work
[03:53] <ed_> what tools are there to check the installed binaries against what the package contains?
[03:53] <bon1212> ogra... so now i Can get something to blank the DVD or what?
[03:53] <ed_> bon1212, cdrecord blank=fast ?
[03:54] <sunshine82> how do i chech which tv caputure card i have
[03:54] <bon1212> ed_, thats what we tried and the one that came with warty doesnt support DVD
[03:54] <ogra> bon1212, first i'd switch back the sources.list to hoary then run sudo apt-get updateto refresh the sources... then you can try to get your system up to hoary...
[03:54] <dooglus> ed_: debsums does that
[03:54] <bon1212> ogra k will do, where can i get that source list?
[03:54] <ed_> thats dooglus
[03:54] <ogra> bon1212, you already got it :)
[03:55] <bon1212> huh
[03:55] <_iGadget_> sunshine82: first of all, you'll need to know the chipset on your card (you can check by physically looking at the card, if it's not in the manual)
[03:55] <bon1212> I have breezy in there rigght now
[03:55] <_iGadget_> sunshine82: next step is to check if it's recognized @ boot
[03:55] <_iGadget_> by typing dmesg |more in the console
[03:55] <ogra> bon1212, its in /etc/apt/sources.list ... change your breezy entries to hoary (just change every occurence of breezy to hoary)
[03:55] <sunshine82> _iGadget_ is it in device manger
[03:56] <_iGadget_> sunshine82: well I don't have that much experience with the device manager yet,  but AFAIK it's just displaying the PCI identifiers
[03:56] <_iGadget_> which doesn't have to mean it's recognized at all
[03:56] <queuetue> Is there a guide somewhere to set up a virtual mail system under ubuntu?  spamassasin, virtual mailboxes, virus checking, user access to password, etc over web, webmail, etc?
[03:57] <ogra> bon1212, exactly... change it to hoary
[03:57] <bon1212> ogra, k i did that now doin apt-get update, and after that do i do apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:57] <Mattias> how do i get anthy to work with scim in ubuntu?
[03:57] <_iGadget_> sunshine82: I wish the device manager in Ubuntu would actually do just that: manage devices. But I've not seen it doing that whatsoever so far...
[03:57] <ogra> bon1212, yup
[03:58] <_iGadget_> can anyone tell me I'm wrong about this?
[03:58] <bon1212> uh oh
[03:58] <bon1212> my dpkg still appears to be broken???
[03:58] <sunshine82> _iGadget_ i've type dmesg|mor eand it say something APCI: is that it
[03:58] <bon1212> ogra
[03:58] <hawking> I try to install fluxconf when I do ./configure it gives some errors lke :  sh: gtk-config: command not found
[03:58] <hawking> what should i do?
[03:58] <ogra> bon1212, error ? (pastebin)
[03:58] <nir_> hi , just installed ubuntu hoary , and i'm getting that error message everytime i'm using APT: W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[03:59] <hawking> make clean
[03:59] <bon1212> ogra http://pastebin.com/401887
[03:59] <wolki> k, will try the reinstall now. thanks, everyone!
[03:59] <bettong_BOFH> how do i zip a file?
[03:59] <_iGadget_> sunshine82: nope, that's just ACPI stuff. What are you seeing in the device manager exactly, regarding your TV card?
[03:59] <spine55> what do I need to install to get xvid movies to view?
[03:59] <ogra> bon1212, just do what it says :)
[03:59] <bon1212> ogra shall i try -f?
[03:59] <bon1212> k
[03:59] <ogra> bon1212, sudo apt-get -f install
[04:00] <ogra> bon1212, your system is very mixed up :)
[04:00] <bettong_BOFH> anyone know how to compress a file make it a zip file?
[04:00] <WildZeck> bettong_BOFH, use zip
[04:00] <bon1212> ogra, and what do i say to theese?  http://pastebin.com/401889
[04:00] <hawking> I try to install fluxconf when I do ./configure it gives some errors lke :  sh: gtk-config: command not found   what should i do??
[04:00] <bettong_BOFH> WildZeck, whats the command?
[04:00] <WildZeck> zip
[04:00] <_iGadget_> ARGH
[04:01] <bettong_BOFH> i tryed that it's a text file i'm trying to zip and it gives a warning
[04:01] <ogra> bon1212, say Y to all these questions... ther might be more
[04:01] <_iGadget_> only one hour left before my GF comes home... and I haven't done anything yet of the things that have to be done before she gets home :s
[04:01] <bettong_BOFH> i got it i turned it into a .tar.gz file
[04:01] <bon1212> HEy its goin...
[04:01] <bon1212> YAY
[04:01] <ogra> :)
[04:02] <bon1212> man ogra ya have been great
[04:02] <ogra> bon1212, youre welcome :)
[04:02] <bon1212> 6 mins it will be done then ill do the breezy upgrade
[04:02] <loki> hi
[04:02] <loki> can smb help me
[04:02] <test>  hi i have a single file myFirst.c and i compile it using "gcc -lm myFirst.c"... what should i put in a makefile so i can compile it with the command "make myFirst.c" and output myFirst instead of a.out? thanks...
[04:03] <_iGadget_> loki: dunno... but if smb can't help you, maybe nmb can ;)
[04:03] <test> sorry it's a newbie question
[04:03] <test>  hi i have a single file myFirst.c and i compile it using "gcc -lm myFirst.c"... what should i put in a makefile so i can compile it with the command "make myFirst.c" and output myFirst instead of a.out? thanks...
[04:03] <loki> i am tired ):
[04:03] <_iGadget_> loki: easy solution: get some sleep :)
[04:03] <dooglus> ogra: where are the breezy upgrade notes you mentioned?
[04:03] <ogra> on the wiki
[04:03] <dooglus> what's the page called?
[04:04] <test> hey can anyone help answer my question? thank you
[04:04] <loki> i am trying to compile clearlooks GTK+ engine
[04:04] <ogra> dooglus, BreezyUpgrade...
[04:04] <loki> and whet i type ./configure system can not find c compiler
[04:04] <bon1212> ogra,  will my Breezy when I'm done be any diff than if i woulda done it from disk?
[04:04] <loki> but i have gcc
[04:04] <_iGadget_> sorry
[04:04] <test>  hi i have a single file myFirst.c and i compile it using "gcc -lm myFirst.c"... what should i put in a makefile so i can compile it with the command "make myFirst.c" and output myFirst instead of a.out? thanks...
[04:04] <shawarma> I've heard that there should be packages of a vpnc-enabled network-manager for Ubuntu somewhere. Does anyone know where?
[04:04] <ArdieM> hatt einer aus umgebung frankfurt der nen auto hat mit mir nach braunschweig zum battle of the year 2005(breakdance weltmeisterschaft) zu fahren? (hab 2 karten) ???
[04:05] <ogra> dooglus, but looking at it, i see the notes about upgrading to hoary first are not there anymore :/
[04:05] <ogra> bon1212, it should, yes...
[04:05] <bon1212> ogra, K thx
[04:05] <ogra> bon1212, if you are completely on hoary, follow the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:05] <WildZeck> bettong_BOFH, use archive manager in tools in ubuntu
[04:05] <hyperactivecrond> is there a point in upgrading from breezy test to breezy?
[04:05] <dooglus> ogra: it's not mentioned in the release notes ( http://www.ubuntu.com/support/releasenotes510/document_view ) which would be the obvious place to put it
[04:05] <hyperactivecrond> and if so how?
[04:06] <ogra> dooglus, i'll talk to mdz about it...
[04:06] <test> anyone know how to create a makefile?
[04:06] <WildZeck> bettong_BOFH, make a new archive with a non automatic type
[04:06] <nir_>               executing gpgv
[04:06] <bon1212> ogra, which are basicly, get the new source list, and do update and dist-upgrade right??
[04:06] <bettong_BOFH> WildZeck, i just right clicked on the file and selected "create archive"
[04:06] <bettong_BOFH> and it did so i am cool
[04:06] <WildZeck> bettong_BOFH, lol i thought it will create a tar.gz
[04:07] <bettong_BOFH> yea it did
[04:07] <ogra> bon1212, basically, yes... you should also make sure the ubuntu-desktop package is intalled... it cares for changed software selections
[04:07] <Jez> Can anyone shed any light on a problem with PCI-E graphics cards in Ubuntu?
[04:07] <bettong_BOFH> i had to fool a freinds isp cause they filter his email
[04:07] <bettong_BOFH> and i know that most isp's can't scan a .tar.gz file
[04:07] <bettong_BOFH> even though it was just my sources.list
[04:07] <WildZeck> bettong_BOFH, you can make true zip file with archive manager in tools with using new archive with non automatic type
[04:08] <bettong_BOFH> ok i understand now lol
[04:08] <toko123> greetings
[04:08] <test> hey can anyone help me out i have a really simple question but i don't know where to get answer from?
[04:08] <test>  hi i have a single file myFirst.c and i compile it using "gcc -lm myFirst.c"... what should i put in a makefile so i can compile it with the command "make myFirst.c" and output myFirst instead of a.out? thanks...
[04:08] <alumno> the best video player for linux IS ?
[04:08] <toko123> can't find htaccess for apache?
[04:08] <Ezko> hi
[04:08] <Ezko> hi
[04:09] <Ezko> can someone help me with wlan problems in ubuntu?
[04:09] <WildZeck> alumno, totem mplayer helix
[04:09] <_iGadget_> alumno: depends on your definition of 'best'
[04:09] <toko123> been looking on google can anyone point me in the right direction
[04:09] <alumno> totem ok
[04:09] <_iGadget_> alumno: best @ playing most formats out of the box: VLC
[04:09] <gnu2it2> why choose ubuntu? lots of linux out there.
[04:09] <WildZeck> alumno, and realmediaplayer too see rm files
[04:09] <alumno> best playing most formats
[04:09] <_iGadget_> gnu2it2: then don't :p
[04:09] <alumno> vlc ok
[04:09] <alumno> thanks
[04:09] <toko123> when downloading apache from repos where is htaccess?
[04:10] <alumno> but i can t see VLC for ubuntu ?
[04:10] <dooglus> test: "make myFirst.c" won't compile the file.  "make myFirst.c" will try to make myFirst.c, but it already exists.
[04:10] <_iGadget_> alumno: I think it's xvlc
[04:10] <Ezko> anyone can help me with wlan problems?
[04:10] <WildZeck> gnu2it2, cause for desktop it's is the faster way to be operational (on aother way it's only for desktop)
[04:10] <hyperactivecrond> !wireless
[04:10] <ubotu> [wireless]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:10] <waydee> erk, my system just erm... died.
[04:10] <alumno> ok thanks
[04:10] <Ezko> thank you ubotu
[04:11] <arun> can any body help me to compile a 'c' program in ubuntu linux
[04:11] <WildZeck> !compile
[04:11] <ubotu> somebody said compile was tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand  Ask me about <compiling>
[04:11] <daxxar> test, also, if you don't want "a.out", use gcc -o myOutputFile -lm myFirst.c
[04:11] <daxxar> ;)
[04:11] <WildZeck> arf
[04:11] <WildZeck> !gcc
[04:11] <ubotu> gcc is, like, totally, the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.
[04:11] <_iGadget_> !compiling
[04:11] <waydee> whenever I try and login I get an error from gnome saying it cannot access .ICEauthority, kills x and then goes back to the login screen.
[04:11] <waydee> kde complains that dcop or something isnt running
[04:11] <waydee> and does the same
[04:12] <WildZeck> !make
[04:12] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, WildZeck
[04:12] <faissal> salam
[04:12] <waydee> :(
[04:12] <WildZeck> !makefile
[04:12] <ubotu> WildZeck: Not a clue
[04:12] <dooglus> test: try these 2 lines for your makefile, then just type "make"
[04:12] <dooglus> myFirst: myFirst.c
[04:12] <dooglus> 	echo gcc -o $@ $<
[04:12] <alumno> _iGadget_,  vlc for ubuntu ? :S i can t find :S on videlan.org/vlc :S
[04:12] <dooglus> that "echo" has a tab in front of it
[04:12] <alumno> videolan.org/vlc :S
[04:12] <larytet> hi, is there any well known problem with Azureus in breezy ? it always worked with java -jar Azureus2.jar and not it does not. i get  Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/cli/CommandLine
[04:12] <_iGadget_> alumno: geez... ever heard of apt? :p
[04:12] <faissal> i have a problem  with socket in ubuntu
[04:12] <larytet> and not i fail to run Azureus
[04:12] <dooglus> larytet: Azureus doesn't work with the default java install.  get blackdown andthen it'l work
[04:13] <alumno> ammm
[04:13] <alumno> no
[04:13] <larytet> i have Sun JDK
[04:13] <dooglus> larytet: what does "ls -l /etc/alternatives/java" show?
[04:13] <larytet> i run something like /jdk/jre/bin/java -jar Azureus2.jar
[04:14] <Xenguy> Hi - is gftp pretty much the 'winscp' of linux scp/sftp GUI programs, or other there other ones I should check out?
[04:14] <alumno> which version i msut to download ?
[04:14] <_iGadget_> alumno: there's somthing like a 'packet manager' embedded into your ubuntu gnome desktop. Try finding that one first, the looking for anything called vlc in there.
[04:14] <larytet> Sun Java is not installed really
[04:14] <dooglus> larytet: I think you have to install it before you can run it.
[04:14] <larytet> i just opened the  ZIP
[04:14] <alumno> ok i will trie
[04:14] <alumno> thanks
[04:14] <larytet> and change JAVA_PATH, etc.
[04:14] <larytet> should i remove GCJ ?
[04:14] <dooglus> larytet: why not use blackdown?  it's packaged.
[04:15] <dooglus> larytet: just use "sudo update-alternatives --config java" to tell it which one to use
[04:15] <waydee> guys, is there a simple way to 'repair' an installation? I think i'm going to have to reinstall but i'd rather not lose some files in my /home directory.
[04:15] <larytet> what is blackdown ? and i want to use GCJ from time to time too
[04:15] <_iGadget_> alumno: there are several ways of invoking the packet manager... and breezy has a very easy one installed
[04:15] <Xenguy> I think that was poorly worded - I'm wondering about good GUI programs to transfer files by scp or sftp - suggestions?
[04:15] <dooglus> larytet: you can have both installed at the same time
[04:15] <waydee> a fresh install with the base packages would be fine, but theres stuff in /home i'd really rather not lose.
[04:15] <Ezko> err
[04:16] <Ezko> i can't find my wlan-card on that list
[04:16] <Ezko> there's only two SMC cards and neither of them is mine
[04:16] <oblib> has anyone had any problems getting the nvidia driver to work in Breezy?
[04:16] <waydee> ? :(
[04:17] <waydee> should I just take this as an opportunity to install a clean fresh copy of breezy or can I somehow retrieve my files?
[04:18] <sven> good evening, I'm pretty new to ubuntu and I reinstalled it on my own so that I am forced to learn linux, how do I make the command xorgconfig work?   it gives me the error, command not found, I tried it with both root and my own account.
[04:18] <sven> afternoon it was :(
[04:18] <larytet> and what is blackdown ?
[04:18] <larytet> how do i fetch prepackaged Java ?
[04:21] <oblib> sven Are you just trying to change your xorg settings?
[04:22] <a2c8m> buenas, que mirror tengo que poner en sources.list para que me encuentre el paquete flashplugin-nonfree? (uso breezy)
[04:22] <sven> oblib: yep, setting up the monitor and stuff, installed the ATi drivers and fglrxconfig won't work either, so I think I need to make the commands executable
[04:22] <bon1212> Whats the guide for the Breezy upgrade again???
[04:23] <bon1212> ogra ya have the link 4 breezy upgrade?
[04:23] <ogra> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:24] <oblib> sven, I don't think Ubuntu has xorgconfig by default (I don't) I've always just edited on my own. The NVidia driver comes with instructions on how. I don't know about the ati though. It's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:24] <bon1212> thx
[04:24] <sven> oblib: indeed, xorgonfig is available too as a bin file but that won't run, a friend of mine installed the previous version of ubuntu and both commands worked then...
[04:25] <ogra> oblib, the command to configure xorg is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:25] <surfdue> hey
[04:25] <ogra> no extra tool required
[04:25] <grgcsmc> can some1 help me?
[04:25] <grgcsmc> i cant open realplayer
[04:25] <surfdue> guys i just installed ubuntu, um i get alot of errors on apt-get install
[04:26] <surfdue> like tarfile currupted
[04:26] <surfdue> etc
[04:26] <surfdue> are we supose to use some other mirrors?
[04:26] <surfdue> i dont understand, this has never happened before
[04:26] <HiddenWolf> surfdue, are you using archive.ubuntu.com
[04:26] <HiddenWolf> ?
[04:26] <surfdue> yes
[04:26] <surfdue> archive.ubuntulinux.org
[04:26] <oblib> sven, to change properties you must use the chmod command, or look at the properties in Nautilus
[04:27] <grgcsmc> can some1 pm me?
[04:27] <oblib> sven, from a terminal it would be chmod +x filename
[04:27] <sven> oblib: I'll try chmod on the file
[04:27] <HiddenWolf> surfdue, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update
[04:27] <surfdue> k
[04:27] <HiddenWolf> surfdue, running hoary or breezy?
[04:27] <dooglus> surfdue: use se.archive.ubuntu.com or us.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:27] <oblib> sven, do you understand how permissions work in linux?
[04:28] <dooglus> surfdue: a lot of the other mirrors are down
[04:28] <HiddenWolf> dooglus, what's gone on with them?
[04:28] <sven> oblib: yep, 777 gives full permissions, 755 is best I assume?
[04:28] <Mattias> how do i install azureus to ubuntu?
[04:28] <dooglus> HiddenWolf: I don't know.  they've been down for 24 hours now.
[04:28] <stjepan> At me on ubuntu sound doesn't work :(
[04:28] <oblib> sven, yeah
[04:28] <stjepan> I run esd and it is running, but I can hear no sound
[04:29] <oblib> sven, or even just 555 since you don't need to write it
[04:29] <grgcsmc> can some1 help me with realplayer?
[04:30] <_iGadget_> hmz... how do I prevent files from becoming executable when I copy them from my windows box to my linux box using Samba?
[04:30] <mastertESS> hi does anybody know how to create a new network connection, so that I can use my access information?
[04:30] <sven> oblib: the command fglrxconfig is there, I set the permissions but it says: command not found, somehow it doesn't run bin files
[04:30] <grgcsmc> hello.... any1?
[04:30] <grgcsmc> can some1 pm me?
[04:30] <dooglus> HiddenWolf: for instance, archive.ubuntu.com resolves to 82.211.81.167, but http://82.211.81.167/ doesn't show me "ubuntu/dists/"
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> grgcsmc, just ask here pls
[04:31] <Servo888> why does the live cd not include any kind of codecs for movie playback? Like mpeg?
[04:31] <Seveas> !tell grgcsmc about realplayer
[04:31] <Seveas> !tell Servo888 about restricted
[04:31] <oblib> sven, are you pointing to it? Maybe it's just not in the path. If it's in the directory you are working in, preceed it with .  like ./fglrxconfig
[04:31] <Seveas> Servo888, legal nightmare...
[04:31] <Servo888> Seveas, how so? Every distro includes at least mpeg
[04:31] <sven> oblib: that did it, thanks a bunch
[04:31] <grgcsmc> i cant install it,
[04:31] <HiddenWolf> Servo888, no, most don't, by default
[04:32] <sven> oblib: it was the ./ I had to enter before the command
[04:32] <dooglus> Servo888: you're not making sense
[04:32] <HiddenWolf> Servo888, companies developed mpeg, they own mpeg, and want to see money before you can use it, legally.
[04:32] <sven> compared to this DOS is peanuts :)
[04:32] <sven> oblib: compared to this DOS is peanuts :)
[04:32] <MenZa`> haha sven
[04:33] <grgcsmc> i installed realplayer from synaptic, but it wont open
[04:33] <oblib> sven, ah DOS, nectar of the gods
[04:33] <Servo888> HiddenFly, yes but there are open source alternatives.
[04:33] <HappyFool> who decided to remove it from breezy install cd eh?
[04:33] <stjepan> who will send me default /etc/esound/esd.conf?
[04:34] <Servo888> HiddenFly, xvid, ffmpeg, etc
[04:34] <Seveas> HappyFool, it's not on the haory install cd either
[04:34] <sven> oblib: I'm an expert windows/dos user and I thought it would be easy :(   I learn quick though, I just need a Linux book so I can learn everything step by step. But Linux has much more potential than windows so in a few months Windows will be gone from my computer
[04:34] <joachim> HELLO!!!!!!!!!!! I'm online with Breezy!!! :D
[04:34] <HappyFool> Seveas: hrm, you sure?
[04:34] <grgcsmc> can some1 help me with my problem????
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> yes HappyFool
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> emacs is not
[04:34] <Seveas> HappyFool, yes, some emacs fools at my work were pissed off about that :)
[04:35] <kevinz> hello i used to use debian but i am new here, i plan to install things like scim but i can't find it in package list, ppl talk about it on internet, but how can i find the one for ubuntu?
[04:35] <HappyFool> i just saw emacs21-common go whizzing by on the qemu install
[04:35] <HappyFool> Seveas: :P
[04:35] <HiddenFly> Servo888: watch your hiliths
[04:35] <Seveas> kevinz, scim is in universe
[04:35] <_iGadget_> sven: that's what I thought when I started about 7 years ago...
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> kevinz, pls enable universe and multiverse
[04:35] <Servo888> HiddenFly, hiliths?
[04:35] <oblib> sven, that's probably the story for most of us. Ubuntu has been a lot nicer to me than other distros I've tried. I'm almost getting the hang of Linux finally
[04:35] <kevinz> oh, so how to do that...
[04:35] <HiddenFly> Servo888: yes, hilights
[04:35] <HiddenFly> Servo888: like this
[04:35] <_iGadget_> sven: If you don't spend enough time, and lack a certain persistence (like I do now and then), it's gonna be tough
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> kevinz, enable them in synaptic or edit etc/apt/sources.list
[04:36] <sven> oblib: ubuntu somehow has more logic than other distros I've seen, and everything works after installation.
[04:36] <Servo888> What's going on with my hilights?
[04:36] <oblib> sven, and synaptic keeps things working.
[04:36] <_iGadget_> sven: that's the #1 reason I switched to ubuntu :)
[04:36] <oblib> I'm out, gotta restart my x server
[04:36] <sven> synaptic is great...
[04:36] <djtrip> got a ?
[04:37] <HappyFool> emacs *is* on hoary  -- look in pool/main/e/emacs21
[04:37] <sven> _igadget_ I am very persistent: Last week I felt trapped on my own computer, I couldn't do anything :'(
[04:37] <djtrip> i cant go to root in terminal
[04:37] <kevinz> wickedpuppy, thank you.. it seems a topic about ubuntu, where can i find any material about it
[04:37] <_iGadget_> sven: I know the feeling... I just kept rebooting to windows to get things done
[04:37] <bettong_BOFH> yea he's haveing trouble with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:37] <_jason> how can I take a screenshot of a window I select?
[04:37] <bettong_BOFH> and it won't let him sudo for some reason
[04:37] <joachim> is gnome-app-install an ubuntu-only thing?
[04:37] <_iGadget_> sven: now I only reboot to windows because I need to run stuff that won't run on linux
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> hmms ... if you are truly good with linux ... distro won't matter ... as long as its bash
[04:38] <kevinz> is there any answering robot in this room?
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> !repositories
[04:38] <ubotu> somebody said sources was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[04:38] <bettong_BOFH> he can't get root access and i don't want him to sudo su
[04:38] <HappyFool> kevinz: ubotu
[04:38] <ximian> Is serpentine working in Breezy?
[04:38] <Bonzodog> kevinz: go to system> help >ubuntu 5.10 starter guide
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> kevinz, there you go
[04:38] <sven> _igadget_: yeah but Windows kinda sucks now :)  The music sounds so much better now...
[04:38] <_iGadget_> ximian: it sure is
[04:38] <kevinz> oh, thank you all :D
[04:38] <axisys__1> any suggestion on good dvd ripper?
[04:38] <Servo888> bettong_BOFH, why not? If you need root access you su into root.
[04:39] <bettong_BOFH> i know
[04:39] <Servo888> axisys, dvd::rip
[04:39] <bettong_BOFH> but for my freinds he types in sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources,list
[04:39] <alumno> when i have file vlc-0.8.2 how i msut to isntall vlc player ? Help plz i have linux for 2 days :S
[04:39] <Servo888> axisys__1*
[04:39] <bettong_BOFH> and it opens it up locked
[04:39] <bettong_BOFH> he can't change the file
[04:39] <HappyFool> bettong_BOFH: how about 'sudo ls' ?
[04:39] <ximian> _iGadget_: well it happens to crash after pulling some mp3s from nautilus (not by File/Add of serpentine) and then going to the menu bar
[04:39] <alumno> how msut i to isntall vlc-0.8.2 file ?
[04:39] <HappyFool> bettong_BOFH: what error message do you get?
[04:40] <test> guys what option do i need to put in the Makefile to fix the following problem? mst.o(.text+0x106): In function `main':
[04:40] <test> : undefined reference to `log10'
[04:40] <test> mst.o(.text+0x146): In function `main':
[04:40] <test> : undefined reference to `log10'
[04:40] <test> mst.o(.text+0x180): In function `main':
[04:40] <test> : undefined reference to `pow'
[04:40] <_iGadget_> alumno: did you get it trough the packet manager as I told you to?
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> alumno, vlc is in repo
[04:40] <Bonzodog> bettong_BOFH: you actually a BOFH?
[04:40] <axisys__1> Servo888: is there a howto on dvd::rip
[04:40] <bettong_BOFH> i'm asking him now
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> unless i am wrong ...
[04:40] <oblib> has anyone else had problems getting the nvidia driver to work after updating to breezy?
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> test, pls don't paste
[04:40] <bettong_BOFH> yes i am as the person that hacked my net last night found out
[04:40] <test> in command line "gcc -lm mst.c" fixes the problem how about within a Makefile? thank you
[04:40] <_iGadget_> ximian: I've had that experience as well on AMD64 :(
[04:40] <axisys__1> Servo888: i noticed i have it installed but don't seem to work
[04:40] <test> wicked but that's the only way i can communicate the exact problem
[04:40] <HappyFool> vlc is in universe
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> _iGadget_, packet manager ?
[04:40] <Servo888> axisys__1, you install it and you run it. You may need decss if you want to decrypt an encrypted dvd.
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> test, wrong chan
[04:41] <Servo888> axisys__1, what's your error message?
[04:41] <bettong_BOFH> my freind who is haveing the trouble is djtrip
[04:41] <HappyFool> or use a pastebin
[04:41] <alumno> i cet it from wait
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> test, i can see you are asking in #c as well ... wait for them to answer pls
[04:41] <alumno> get
[04:41] <djtrip> authentication failure
[04:41] <axisys__1> Servo888: first of all it says open project
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> ah i am lagging
[04:41] <EasterSunshine> hello, i have copied a bunch of files from a windows share and i'm trying to get rid of all the Thumbs.db files, i did something like $ for Thumbs in `locate Thumbs`; do rm -f "$Thumbs"; done; but rm complains that it cannot lstat the files under directories with spaces in them. how do isolve this problem?
[04:41] <_iGadget_> wickedpuppy: apt / synaptic / etc.
[04:41] <djtrip> wile tryin to su
[04:41] <test> ok
[04:41] <_jason> what is the command to grab screenshots (not the menu item)?
[04:41] <axisys__1> Servo888: i guess i need a howto first
[04:41] <dooglus> test: you need "-lm"
[04:41] <Servo888> axisys__1, how to use the software or how to install it?
[04:41] <alumno> _iGadget_,  videolan.org/vlc last one i download
[04:41] <bettong_BOFH> he's getting an identification falure
[04:41] <axisys__1> use the software
[04:42] <axisys__1> Servo888: i already have it installed
[04:42] <HappyFool> djtrip: you sure you're entering your password correctly?
[04:42] <deFrysk> _jason, print screen button
[04:42] <alumno> it is correct ?
[04:42] <alumno> is it
[04:42] <dooglus> deFrysk: he asked for a command
[04:42] <deFrysk> ow
[04:42] <Servo888> axisys__1, just go to their website at: http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/
[04:42] <bettong_BOFH> no error
[04:42] <brenner> damn breezy is nice.  i don't know if it's just that DMA can finally can be enabled with the new kernel, but it flies on this laptop. very pleased. i noticed the install is a lot quicker too. what happened to the configging process that was present in hoary and warty?
[04:42] <_iGadget_> alumno: NO... get it trough the packet manager, like I told you :)
[04:42] <_jason> deFrysk:  do you know the command?
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> _iGadget_, those are package managers ... not packet
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> oh boy
[04:42] <bettong_BOFH> for sudo ls it says desktop
[04:43] <Servo888> axisys__1, they have a 'how to use the gui' section so that should get you started.
[04:43] <alumno> from apt-get isntall ?
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> package ... not packet
[04:43] <_iGadget_> wickedpuppy: I stand corrected :)
[04:43] <HappyFool> bettong_BOFH: so sudo ls works ?
[04:43] <_iGadget_> alumno: listen to wickedpuppy! :)
[04:43] <deFrysk> gnome-screenshot
[04:43] <deFrysk> _jason,
[04:43] <bettong_BOFH> i'm asking now HappyFool
[04:43] <HappyFool> bettong_BOFH: try the    'sudo gedit'  again, tell me what the error is
[04:43] <bettong_BOFH> yes
[04:43] <daenz> could someone ask me how to set up MusicPlayerDaemon on ubuntu ? 1)i havent manage to make it start at boot, and when i run it manually, it doesnt play mp3 ....
[04:43] <n1k0s_> thnk god i can play .avi but sound doesnt go with picture...anything wrong with the codecs?
[04:43] <ximian> does anybody use ufsd of Paragon here?
[04:43] <alumno> i mi god :( i have linux for 2 days and dont undestand some things
[04:44] <bettong_BOFH> ok he's gonna paste me the output
[04:44] <_iGadget_> alumno: try running synaptic...
[04:44] <_jason> deFrysk:  thanks
[04:44] <_iGadget_> alumno: then search for vlc or xvlc
[04:44] <sven> _igadget_ and oblib thanks for the help, I'm gonna reboot after configuring xorg.conf, have a nice day.
[04:44] <oblib> sve
[04:44] <bettong_BOFH> he got it lol
[04:44] <_iGadget_> sven: good luck
[04:44] <oblib> sven
[04:44] <oblib> sven, no need to reboot
[04:44] <HappyFool> bettong_BOFH: wrong password, probably
[04:44] <oblib> sven, one of the wonders of linux
[04:44] <redlounge> hi. since a few days i have a new tmpfs mounted at /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/volatile. what is this used for? my swap partition on my hdd (/dev/hda5) is not mounted any more, why this?
[04:45] <wickedpuppy> alumno, i been using linux for 5 years and i still don't get a lot of things ... don't worry
[04:45] <alumno> :))
[04:45] <oblib> has anyone else had problems getting the nvidia driver to work after updating to breezy?
[04:45] <_iGadget_> alumno: 7 years here... still don't have a clue of what I'm doing :)
[04:45] <alumno> jajajajaaja
[04:45] <alumno> nice
[04:46] <bettong_BOFH> HappyFool,  he says sudo gedit works
[04:46] <KinkoBlast> Hmm..
[04:46] <HappyFool> bettong_BOFH: so what *doesn't* work?
[04:46] <Servo888> alumno, it takes a while to learn and to understand. Biggest issue you'll have is figuring out where each configuration file is and why no body creates any standards for them.
[04:46] <bettong_BOFH> but he then has to open the file manually
[04:46] <_iGadget_> oblib: only out of the box. After re(?)installing the nvidia-glx-blahblah files and running nvidia-glx-config enable, it worked
[04:46] <bettong_BOFH> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources
[04:46] <HappyFool> bettong_BOFH: i think he was entering the password incorrectly before
[04:46] <bettong_BOFH> thats whay i think to
[04:46] <bettong_BOFH> but he says no
[04:46] <HappyFool> bettong_BOFH: i have had funnies with 'gksudo gedit', fwiw
[04:47] <oblib> _iGadget_, is there a blablah on the end of that? I just did nvidia-glx
[04:47] <KinkoBlast> This is weird. Of course, running gnome-panel with a mac as the terminal is wierd too
[04:47] <surfdue> on sudo apt-get -f install i get this error, dpkg ../../src/packages.c:191 process-queue: assertion 'depentry <=4' failed, stopped unexpectedly
[04:47] <surfdue> how do i fix this?
[04:47] <alumno> yes
[04:47] <_iGadget_> oblib: I'm not sure... if you search for 'nvidia', there are several packages involved
[04:48] <brenner> oblib: there's a not on nvidia reenabling on the upgrade wiki iirc
[04:48] <alumno> i like linux, i can t work with windows alwyas a lot of problems restart always ...
[04:48] <brenner> s/not/note
[04:48] <alumno> Servo888,  :)
[04:48] <hawking> what is the minimum memory requirement for ubuntu's server install?
[04:48] <_iGadget_> oblib: you'll need linux-restricted-modules as well, been that probably already installed
[04:48] <erisco> is there not a way to view all the applications you can download with apt-get?
[04:48] <hawking> is it below or over 256 mb?
[04:48] <erisco> i just want to browse what is there and see if there is anything i might want to download
[04:48] <surfdue> anyone?
[04:48] <surfdue> on sudo apt-get -f install i get this error, dpkg ../../src/packages.c:191 process-queue: assertion 'depentry <=4' failed, stopped unexpectedly <<< how do i fix this?
[04:49] <_iGadget_> hawking: my bet is - below. But it depends on what you want your server to do, of course
[04:49] <brenner> erisco: synaptic
[04:49] <oblib> _iGadget_, my synaptic is busted right now, I'm going to do a quick reboot. Thanks for help
[04:49] <brenner> erisco: sys > admin > synaptic
[04:49] <erisco> heh yeah synaptic.... duh
[04:49] <_iGadget_> oblib: I installed those from the console
[04:49] <_iGadget_> I didn't have any X ;)
[04:49] <larytet> google how to install Azureus in Breezy gives answer for Java/Azureus problem, but it replaced java from GUN
[04:49] <larytet> GNU
[04:49] <_iGadget_> apt-cache search nvidia
[04:49] <oblib> _iGadget_, do you have an exact name for apt-get
[04:49] <larytet> thanks
[04:49] <co_bandit> asu
[04:49] <_iGadget_> and then pick the proper ones
[04:49] <canindya> anybody experienced problems with gaim in ubuntu? I have removed and reinstalled it again but it does not login to any account
[04:49] <surfdue> anyone know how i can fix this
[04:50] <surfdue> no canindya
[04:50] <oblib> _iGadget_,  Invalid operation search
[04:50] <_iGadget_> apt-cache search
[04:50] <_iGadget_> not apt-get :)
[04:50] <wickedpuppy> canindya, i am on gail right now :P
[04:50] <wickedpuppy> gaim i mean
[04:50] <oblib> _iGadget_, cool didn't know about that
[04:50] <canindya> yeah :(
[04:51] <_iGadget_> oblib: there are more options to that to define your search, but I don't know about them muh
[04:51] <_iGadget_> much
[04:51] <dooglus> _jason: if you want a take a screenshot without user interaction: "import -window root /tmp/screen.png" will do it.  it's in the 'imagemagick' package.
[04:51] <canindya> any other nice im like gaim in ubuntu? apart than kopete?
[04:51] <alumno> _iGadget_,  i get it from synaptic vlc now i msut to isntall it right ?
[04:52] <dooglus> surfdue: can you pastebin your sources.list pls?
[04:52] <Bonzodog> canindya, theres aMSN
[04:52] <_iGadget_> alumno: if you let synaptic download and install vlc for you, then it should already be in your menu...
[04:52] <Bonzodog> but it's msn only
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> alumno, if you apt-get install ... install is done for ya
[04:52] <rukuartic> Does ndiswrapper come with breezy?
[04:52] <erisco> can someone tell me what KDE is?
[04:52] <_iGadget_> alumno: this is Ubuntu/Debian linux... no need for separate downloads / installs :)
[04:52] <surfdue> um ya
[04:52] <alumno> a ok
[04:52] <surfdue> !sources
[04:52] <ubotu> it has been said that sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[04:52] <oblib> _iGadget_, why don't you have X? what do you do for gui programs?
[04:53] <Bonzodog> KDE is a desktop
[04:53] <canindya> Bonzodog : thanks
[04:53] <dooglus> erisco: it's a Krappy Desktop Environment.  Big bloated windows lookalike thing.  Alternative to GNOME.
[04:53] <surfdue> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:53] <alumno> wickedpuppy,  i was using synaptic for downlaod
[04:53] <surfdue> dooglus, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:53] <_iGadget_> oblib: I didn't have X after breezy install completed... I do now :)
[04:53] <Bonzodog> there are a lot of desktop environments available for linux
[04:53] <KinkoBlast> dooglus: What do you have agenst KDE? I prefer gnome, but KDE is OK.
[04:53] <_iGadget_> KDE is nice...
[04:54] <Bonzodog> KDE = Bloat
[04:54] <wickedpuppy> alumno, synaptic is front end for apt-get/aptitude ...
[04:54] <Bonzodog> can't stand it
[04:54] <_iGadget_> but the latest gnome is quite okay as well :)
[04:54] <HappyFool> desktop wars to -offtopic
[04:54] <dooglus> surfdue: you're still using archive.ubuntu.com.  it's not working.  replace with us.archive.ubuntu.com instead.
[04:54] <bettong_BOFH> !w32codecs
[04:54] <dooglus> KinkoBlast: nothing really.
[04:54] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[04:54] <alumno> a ok ;)
[04:54] <alumno> thanks
[04:54] <Bonzodog> have also used afterstep, fluxbox,blackbox....
[04:54] <oblib> _iGadget_, so there are nvidia-glx (I have installed that one) and nvidia-glx-legacy (shouldn't need that, right). I already have the restricted-modules for my kernal. Anything else I'm missing?
[04:55] <rukuartic> !ndiswrapper
[04:55] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is probably a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[04:55] <erisco> so when i am going through this list of applications to install for kde... can i only use them with kde? not gnome?
[04:55] <Bonzodog> XFCE isn't bad
[04:55] <KinkoBlast> Does prboom play the doom music? I can't get into the game without the music....
[04:55] <_iGadget_> alumno: most of the graphical tools on linux have console / text based tools behind them. This is convenient when you're running a server for example.
[04:55] <oblib> _iGadget_, do you know what nvidia-kernel-common does?
[04:55] <Lupin[lvl] > can anyone tell me how i can add a folder tot he /usr/lib/ dir from my account without logging out and going into the admin acc? im a linux noob :)
[04:55] <KinkoBlast> KDE Apps work fine under GNOME
[04:55] <caonex> anybody here has an ati radeon express 200m?
[04:55] <dooglus> Bonzodog: those are all window managers.  that's not the same as a desktop environment.  you can run any of those window managers in place of metacity (which gnome uses)
[04:55] <erisco> okay thanks
[04:55] <KinkoBlast> And GNOME apps work find under KDE
[04:55] <surfdue> can someone give me a current sources.list
[04:55] <surfdue> that will work perfectly
[04:55] <httpdss> lupin:sudo mkdir
[04:55] <surfdue> please
[04:56] <_iGadget_> oblib: nvidia-kernel-common.. not sure
[04:56] <Lupin[lvl] > thanks httpdss
[04:56] <_iGadget_> oblib: but you need nvidia-glx-config as well AFAIK
[04:56] <dooglus> surfdue: just run: "sudo sed -i 's/archive.ubuntu/us.archive.ubuntu/g'" in a terminal
[04:56] <Bonzodog> the US sources are fscked
[04:56] <wickedpuppy> surfdue, you already has it ...
[04:56] <Bonzodog> hehe
[04:56] <Bonzodog> eu sources are ok at the mo
[04:56] <alumno> yap
[04:56] <httpdss> lupin: no prob
[04:56] <_iGadget_> caone: I do
[04:56] <oblib> _iGadget_, I did nvidia-glx-config enable as well
[04:56] <KinkoBlast> (I'm running kturtle on my gnome desktop right now. I'm also runing kfouleggs. No problems.
[04:56] <wickedpuppy> change us to something ... eu or uk or jp
[04:56] <_iGadget_> oblib: and did that exit succesfully?
[04:56] <oblib> _iGadget_, when it tries to start X, it says the kernel driver and the X driver don't match
[04:57] <test> guys what command can i type to turn my windows os into ubuntu?
[04:57] <canindya> surfdue: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3446
[04:57] <_iGadget_> oblib: and it exits on that?
[04:57] <dooglus> Bonzodog: uk. isn't ok.
[04:57] <oblib> test, format c:
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> test, you are kidding
[04:57] <KinkoBlast> test: Insert a Ubuntu install disk, boot off of it, and the installer will walk you throh itug
[04:57] <httpdss> hahaha
[04:57] <test> oblib that doesnt quite do the trick
[04:57] <oblib> _iGadget_, yeah, says it can't load the nvidia driver
[04:58] <dooglus> wickedpuppy.  us. is about the only one working, along with se.   uk. and eu. are both broken
[04:58] <oblib> test, oh, and then boot from the install cd of course
[04:58] <canindya> test : you need a live cd may be
[04:58] <test> they say there's an easter egg command in windows to turn it into ubuntu
[04:58] <_iGadget_> oblib: hmmmm strange... and you're using the standard kernel from breezy?
[04:58] <Servo888> test, you know better - you were just asking programming questions in #C, and now your asking a retarted question about booting into ubuntu...
[04:58] <rukuartic> Question: I'm looking over the default packages installed in breezy badger, and I'm looking for ndiswrapper. I see ndisgtk, but no ndiswrapper. Will I have to apt-get it?
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> dooglus, if you want try the asia ... .my is working ... malaysia
[04:58] <KinkoBlast> test: There isn't. That's a joke. (or lie)
[04:58] <Belutz> he's trolling
[04:59] <alumno> now i want to open video.wmv > open with and there could not find vlc player ? y msut to restart something ?
[04:59] <oblib> _iGadget_, I'm not sure, whatever was left over from my Hoary install. uname -r returns 2.6.10-5-386
[04:59] <_iGadget_> caonex: I got mine working using the fglrx packages provided with breezy
[04:59] <Gabriel> Does someone knows about a personal backup solution (PC to external drive) with a GUI?
[04:59] <canindya> test: i think m$ developers wish to that to happen ;)
[04:59] <dooglus> wickedpuppy: run "host my.archive.ubuntu.com" - it shows the same as "host archive.ubuntu.com" doesn't it?  ie. two broken and two working
[04:59] <Servo888> Belutz, I wonder if he just created a test/test account... Might try to /whois him and see if he did ;-)
[04:59] <CoolGirl> I love the ubuntu linux thing much better than linux.
[04:59] <_iGadget_> caonex: and then editing xorg.conf by hand
[04:59] <httpdss> alumno: you can put it below the list .. as a custom app
[04:59] <_iGadget_> oblib: that's the old kernel allright
[05:00] <Belutz> :p
[05:00] <_iGadget_> you need 2.6.12.xxx
[05:00] <KinkoBlast> How do I boot ubuntu into JUST a terminal, no X?
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> alumno, can you go to application -> sound and video -> vlc ?
[05:00] <alumno> :S
[05:00] <oblib> _iGadget_, what should it be?
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> dooglus, possibily ...
[05:00] <oblib> _iGadget_, missed it sorry
[05:00] <_iGadget_> oblib: hang on
[05:00] <canindya> KinkoBlast : while booting through grub/lilo pass on init 3
[05:00] <brenner> CoolGirl: lol, without linux, ubuntu wouldn't exist.
[05:00] <httpdss> alumno: are you using gnome ??
[05:00] <alumno> yes i cant see it there :S
[05:00] <Servo888> Kingbahamut, well if you startx - just hit alt control f1 to get back into console - then you can kill x from there.
[05:01] <_iGadget_> oblib: at least 2.6.12-9
[05:01] <oblib> _iGadget_, what would the synaptic package be for that? linux-image-2.6...?
[05:01] <alumno> gnome :S nop
[05:01] <misterT2> does anybody know how to create and how to configure a RAS connection?
[05:01] <test> bye guys thanks for the answers
[05:01] <_iGadget_> oblib: pfew... good question
[05:01] <ProN00b> how do i set up my ubuntu as a gateway to the internet (ppp0) for my windows box (crossover on eth1)
[05:01] <httpdss> alumno: what are you using (WM) ??
[05:01] <CoolGirl> I use it but now i'm using stupid idiotic dumb yucky icky yucky windows 2000.
[05:01] <canindya> KinkoBlast : then set default run level in inittab under /etc
[05:01] <alumno> vlc
[05:01] <alumno> want to use
[05:01] <rukuartic> I'll take w2k over wxp any day CoolGirl
[05:02] <CoolGirl> want to use what?
[05:02] <oblib> Anyone? What is the synaptic package to update the kernel?
[05:02] <CoolGirl> uhh don't know
[05:02] <httpdss> alumno: yes, but window manager .. gnome, kde, xfce. etc
[05:02] <_iGadget_> linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[05:02] <alumno> default ubuntu
[05:02] <_iGadget_> oblib: if you want i386 of course :)
[05:03] <ecki> hello
[05:03] <brenner> CoolGirl: yeah, going back to windows is icky.  i always find myself cramped (i have 6 workspaces in ubuntu :) )
[05:03] <dooglus> oblib: "linux" is the package to use
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> CoolGirl, win 2000 is supposed to be the best win ever
[05:03] <canindya> bye guys
[05:03] <oblib> _iGadget_, lol of course it is installed already! I think it's just a boot problem then -- loading the wrong kernel
[05:03] <_iGadget_> alumno: isn't it there in your menu?
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> it sux but still its pretty ok ... clearly not as good as linux
[05:03] <ecki> can someone help me with burning the iso-image for a power-pc?
[05:03] <_iGadget_> oblib: then check your grub config :)
[05:04] <CoolGirl> L ove tuxy the penguin I saw tux on a truck maybe they carry linux well duh they better carry linux.
[05:04] <ProN00b> brenner, there are tools that give windows workspace abilites
[05:04] <alumno> _iGadget_,  i cant see it aplicacion sounds no vlc palyer
[05:04] <rukuartic> Alright, so here's my problem. I have a wireless internet connection, and I wish to install ndiswrapper on my PC. Unfortunately, the only way I know how to is to apt-get. Problem is, I have no way of connecting my computer to the internet to actually use apt-get, so I have to download it on another computer, put it onto a CD, and then bring it to my box. How do I install it?
[05:04] <oblib> _iGadget_, I'm using lilo to boot from the Windows bootloader
[05:04] <httpdss> alumno: right click on the icon, go to open with .. at the bottom, after the list of apps there is an expandable arrow... click on it and enter vlc
[05:04] <flodine> can someone give me the command to install kde with apt
[05:04] <alumno> a ok i will trie it now
[05:04] <_iGadget_> oblib: :s that's your problem then :p
[05:04] <rukuartic> flodine: Get kbuntu
[05:04] <dooglus> flodine: "sudo apt-get install kdebase"
[05:04] <Bonzodog> it was too much work keeping on top of the updates and re-boots with winxp
[05:04] <caonex> _iGadget_, you did?
[05:04] <httpdss> sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[05:04] <brenner> ProN00b: neat
[05:05] <caonex> _iGadget_, still here?
[05:05] <ecki> can someone help me with burning the iso-image for a power-pc? I just can't boot from the cd... do i have to do something special or just burn the files on cd?
[05:05] <_iGadget_> caonex: yup...
[05:05] <Bonzodog> ubuntu is maintenance free
[05:05] <flodine> anyone on kubuntu
[05:05] <brenner> dooglus: not kubuntu-desktop?
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> ecki, you burn the image ... not as the data file
[05:05] <rukuartic> flodine: join #kbuntu
[05:05] <_iGadget_> ecki: what program do you use?
[05:05] <_iGadget_> for burning cd's?
[05:05] <caonex> _iGadget_, you just installed xserver-fglrx?
[05:06] <_iGadget_> caonex: If I remember correctly, yes
[05:06] <CoolGirl> I've seen the real mac mini at the mac store a the mall it was closed so I just looked thourh the glass.
[05:06] <caonex> _iGadget_, i mean Xorg_driver_fglrx i think
[05:06] <_iGadget_> caonex: I followed some guides that were one these pages dedicated to linux-on-laptop
[05:06] <dooglus> brenner: that would install a lot of extra stuff too
[05:06] <caonex> and then, _iGadget_ , you just added the glx line?
[05:06] <caonex> oh i see
[05:06] <ecki> wickedpupp: i burn the files which are in the image-file on cd... but i can't use the cd as start-volume on my mac...
[05:07] <_iGadget_> caonex: hang on, I'll try to find the link
[05:07] <dooglus> brenner: and he asked for KDE, not the whole kubuntu environment
[05:07] <ProN00b> how do i set up my ubuntu as a gateway to the internet (ppp0) for my windows box (on eth1)
[05:07] <brenner> dooglus: good points i guess. :)
[05:08] <oblib> _iGadget_, thanks for help. Time to reboot
[05:08] <apokryphos> dooglus: (i) recommended kde installation on ubuntu is done by installing kubuntu-desktop; (ii) installing kdebase would give you a minimal amount of things
[05:08] <vlad> hi
[05:08] <vlad> can someone answer a few questions ?
[05:08] <apokryphos> not if you don't ask them ;-)
[05:08] <vlad> harhar :P
[05:09] <vlad> i just installed the 64 bit ubuntu
[05:09] <KinkoBlast> nope, that's why we are all not here to help :-)
[05:09] <vlad> wondering what kind of limitations im going to have opposed to 32 bit
[05:09] <ecki> but no one want to help me :-(
[05:09] <_iGadget_> oblib: no prob
[05:09] <Bonzodog> flash not working properly
[05:09] <vlad> properly or at all ?
[05:09] <apokryphos> vlad: (i) flash; (ii) wmv files. Pretty much it.
[05:09] <hyperactivecrond> !w32codecs
[05:09] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[05:09] <hyperactivecrond> !flash
[05:09] <ubotu> well, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:09] <vlad> wmv files didnt work in 32 bit either
[05:09] <surfdue> ok guys same error
[05:09] <apokryphos> hyperactivecrond: what?
[05:10] <surfdue> on sudo apt-get -f install i get this error, dpkg ../../src/packages.c:191 process-queue: assertion 'depentry <=4' failed, stopped unexpectedly <<< how do i fix this?
[05:10] <apokryphos> vlad: they would've if you got the right codecs
[05:10] <hyperactivecrond> !tell apokryphos about w32codecs
[05:10] <surfdue> this is an odd error
[05:10] <derchilligephil> hey guys
[05:10] <hyperactivecrond> !tell apokryphos about flash
[05:10] <vlad> ahh
[05:10] <_iGadget_> flash hasn't been released in 64 bit yet... macromedia issue
[05:10] <derchilligephil> which ftp server should i use
[05:10] <apokryphos> hyperactivecrond: you seriously think I don't know?
[05:10] <caonex> _iGadget_, i do not see an entry for ubuntu?
[05:10] <derchilligephil> and how can i configure it the easiest way
[05:10] <KinkoBlast> Who wants wmvs anyway?
[05:10] <caonex> _iGadget_, you rpobably read debian, right?
[05:10] <hyperactivecrond> apokryphos: my bad...
[05:10] <apokryphos> hyperactivecrond: I was answering the questions; you will *not* be able to get those two for amd64 on Ubuntu
[05:10] <brenner> hyperactivecrond: he's an op, i think he knows. :)
[05:10] <KinkoBlast> it's a cruddy format.
[05:10] <vlad> does anyone know how to edit Grub so i can edit the options and wait times ?
[05:10] <hyperactivecrond> whoops :\
[05:10] <Bonzodog> sys -p
[05:10] <hyperactivecrond> !tell vlad about grub
[05:11] <Bonzodog> SysInfo: uname: Linux 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ 1004.909 MHz Bogomips: 1986.56 Mem: 617/998M [||||||||||]  Diskspace: 152.37G Free: 147.53G Procs: 76 Uptime: 7 hrs 13 mins 24 secs Load: 0.10 0.23 0.23  | Vpenis: 7000000 cm Screen: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0221 (rev a1) Screen Resolution: 1280x1024 (24 bpp) eth0: In: 279.66M Out: 10.45M
[05:11] <derchilligephil> !wu-ftpds
[05:11] <_iGadget_> caonex: that's right... but I installed it using a guide from someone running gentoo, so that shouldn't matter much
[05:11] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, derchilligephil
[05:11] <derchilligephil> !wu-ftpd
[05:11] <ubotu> derchilligephil: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:11] <hyperactivecrond> !ftpd
[05:11] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: I don't know
[05:11] <Q_Continuum> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27139
[05:11] <apokryphos> Bonzodog: dangerous to paste in here =)
[05:11] <misterT2> habs jetzt mit pppoe hinbekommen
[05:11] <Q_Continuum> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27139
[05:11] <derchilligephil> !ftpd
[05:11] <Q_Continuum> 43 HP Vectras and no beer at Fortress Fiorina
[05:11] <Bonzodog> sorry
[05:11] <ecki> so i will try again: I downloaded ubuntu-5.10-install-powerpc.iso and burned the contend of the iso-file on a cd, but my mac won't boot from it - what am I doing wrong?
[05:11] <Bonzodog> little script
[05:11] <hyperactivecrond> Q_Continuum: #ubuntu-offtopic plz
[05:11] <_iGadget_> caonex: problem is... I seem to have lost the link :(
[05:11] <Q_Continuum> sorry
[05:11] <dooglus> apokryphos: installing kdebase would give you KDE, right?
[05:11] <hyperactivecrond> ecki: which mac do you have
[05:11] <derchilligephil> mhh
[05:11] <ecki> 12" iBook
[05:12] <bina> !tell bina about backports
[05:12] <derchilligephil> need help on setting up ftp
[05:12] <apokryphos> dooglus: yes, but it would give you a minimal amount of packages, whereas kubuntu-desktop gives you all the recommended kubuntu packages.
[05:12] <caonex> _iGadget_, what is your laptop model?
[05:12] <alumno> httpdss,  its works :) thanks but he dont want to open .wmv file
[05:12] <_iGadget_> ecki: isn't there some 'magic-key' combination on your mac to boot from cd?
[05:12] <caonex> _iGadget_, we may have different models, that is another problem ;)
[05:12] <_iGadget_> caonex: I have an HP pavilion zv6000
[05:12] <dooglus> apokryphos: installing kubuntu-desktop gives you "k3b, kaddressbook, kaffeine-gstreamer, kamera, karm, katapult, kate, kaudiocreator, ..." - a whole bunch of apps you've already got GNOME versions of
[05:12] <vlad> thanks to whoever sent me the grub link
[05:12] <brenner> Bonzodog: see that unknown device? run update-pciids
[05:12] <adriyel> WTF @ Inquirer
[05:12] <caonex> _iGadget_, me too
[05:12] <apokryphos> dooglus: you think I don't know?
[05:12] <vlad> this server is spammyyyyy
[05:12] <ecki> yes... either I Press "C" while starting up, in order to boot from cd or i choose the cd a boot volume in the system settings
[05:12] <hyperactivecrond> ecki: are you holding down 'c'?
[05:12] <adriyel> bloody...
[05:12] <_iGadget_> caonex: then you should be able to get it working...
[05:12] <apokryphos> dooglus: and better ones, I may add :-O
[05:13] <hyperactivecrond> d'pj
[05:13] <hyperactivecrond> d'oh`
[05:13] <dooglus> apokryphos: I'm checking.  the guy asked how to install KDE, not how to install hundreds of KDE apps
[05:13] <apokryphos> dooglus: er, and kdebase will of course give you some of those
[05:13] <_iGadget_> caonex: I didn't try 3D stuff, though
[05:13] <apokryphos> dooglus: irrelevant; someone here asks to install kde, the recommended installation is kubuntu-desktop
[05:13] <palewolf> 2 questions: #1, anybody got sfs to work? #2, how/what/where is the equivalent to rpm's .spec in a deb file?
[05:13] <ecki> but i can't choose the cd as starting volume... so something seems to be missing on the cd - but i have no big experience about macs...
[05:13] <surfdue> anyone
[05:13] <surfdue> on sudo apt-get -f install i get this error, dpkg ../../src/packages.c:191 process-queue: assertion 'depentry <=4' failed, stopped unexpectedly <<< how do i fix this?
[05:13] <vlad> Does running 64 bit ubuntu really take advantage of 64 bit and make it faster ? or does it just add support for 64 bit apps so they can run at their potential ?
[05:13] <apokryphos> dooglus: if they ask how they can have the minimal running installation of kde, then you can recommend otherwise.
[05:13] <apokryphos> vlad: much faster, yes.
[05:14] <KinkoBlast> i want to install "khelpcenter" for a few apps I use designed for KDE. How do I install that without the rest of KDE?
[05:14] <vlad> cool
[05:14] <apokryphos> KinkoBlast: you will need the libs at least
[05:14] <caonex> _iGadget_, well you could try if you want a screensaver that requires glk
[05:14] <apokryphos> KinkoBlast: are you low on space?
[05:14] <caonex> glx
[05:14] <vlad> going to go play with grub thx
[05:14] <KinkoBlast> apokryphos: Only arround 700 megs left. That's the broblem with a 3 gig hard drive.
[05:15] <apokryphos> eek
[05:15] <Bonzodog> vlad: I posted an item on the ubuntu forums about modifying grub
[05:15] <alumno> _iGadget_,  now i hace one aplicacion VLC for gtk+ is it this ?
[05:15] <apokryphos> KinkoBlast: get a new one ;-). They're dirt cheap these days
[05:15] <KinkoBlast> I already have a few KDE programs working though
[05:15] <alumno> have
[05:15] <Mattias> can't kino movie editor edit .mov files? :O
[05:15] <apokryphos> alumno: gvlc
[05:16] <KinkoBlast> apokryphos: Not worth it. I also have a pentium 2 2**mhz processer.
[05:16] <alumno> i have vln for ftk+ on mi sounds menu
[05:16] <alumno> :S
[05:16] <alumno> "vlc for ftk+"
[05:16] <vlad> Bonzodog: can you give me the link? i just read the help file on grub and it isnt really indepth
[05:16] <apokryphos> KinkoBlast: it's less than a  a gig. Definitely worth it =)
[05:17] <Bonzodog> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76718
[05:17] <_iGadget_> brb
[05:17] <KinkoBlast> apokryphos: I have a second (2 gig) FAT drive I haven't figured out how to use in Ubuntu yet.
[05:17] <apokryphos> KinkoBlast: is it all plugged up?
[05:17] <hyperactivecrond> !mount
[05:17] <ubotu> it has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[05:17] <apokryphos> use that script to automatically detect and automount it
[05:17] <Bonzodog> there is apparantly a grub conf prog available as well
[05:17] <alumno> :(
[05:17] <hyperactivecrond> !tell kinkoblast about windowsdrives
[05:17] <caonex> _iGadget_, but you did tell me you modified the file by adding the glx line support in xorg.conf right?
[05:17] <surfdue> !sources
[05:17] <ubotu> well, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[05:17] <KinkoBlast> apokryphos: It was working in windows....
[05:18] <alumno>  a ok its works
[05:18] <caonex> _iGadget_, it would not seem that you had to modify something else
[05:18] <vlad> where's gedit or how do you open something with it
[05:18] <apokryphos> KinkoBlast: /msg ubotu windowsdrives. Download and run that script -- it'll do it all for you.
[05:18] <alumno> _iGadget_,  thansk for help and wickedpuppy  see you
[05:18] <apokryphos> vlad: alt+f2 -> gedit /path/to/somefile
[05:18] <alumno> thanks
[05:18] <_iGadget_> caonex: I remember adding my screen res to xorg.conf
[05:18] <alumno> its works
[05:18] <hyperactivecrond> vlad: applications --> accessories --> text editor
[05:18] <alumno> ciau
[05:18] <KinkoBlast> apokryphos: I don't have any information on it that I want to keep, though. Would It work better if I reformated it to some other file system?
[05:18] <vlad> thanks
[05:18] <oblib> _iGadget_, my dual monitors are back! Thanks for the help!
[05:18] <_iGadget_> alumno: easy no? :)
[05:19] <oblib> curse grub and it's default ways
[05:19] <apokryphos> KinkoBlast: not if you want to transfer easily between windows and linux
[05:19] <_iGadget_> oblib: dual monitors? whow... I never got that working :)
[05:19] <vlad> aha it worked
[05:19] <_iGadget_> grub is sweet! :D
[05:19] <vlad> grub is uglyyy :P
[05:19] <KinkoBlast> apokryphose: I don't have windows on here any more :-P
[05:19] <Bonzodog> vald: run it from a terminal with sudo, so you have root permissions to change it
[05:20] <oblib> _iGadget_, there are a couple of ways to do it -- least intuitive has two X sessions, one for each monitor, so you can't drag apps back and forth, but your mouse can go back and forth
[05:20] <oblib> _iGadget_, how I have it now is more like the Windows setup
[05:20] <oblib> _iGadget_, you using nvidia?
[05:20] <apokryphos> KinkoBlast: then go for ext3, sure
[05:20] <_iGadget_> oblib: well I don't have time to try it now. But when I do, I'll ask you :)
[05:20] <_iGadget_> oblib: I do on my workstation
[05:21] <surfdue> seems like blt is the broken package, i tryed to reinstall it i still get this error, dpkg ../../src/packages.c:191 process-queue: assertion 'depentry <=4' failed, stopped unexpectedly <<< how do i fix this?
[05:21] <madonk> allo
[05:21] <KinkoBlast> apokryphos: OK. How do I do that, then set it up to work on here?
[05:21] <madonk> all
[05:21] <oblib> _iGadget_, it's an essential feature, definitely worth setting up
[05:21] <apokryphos> KinkoBlast: use gparted, then /msg ubotu windowsdrives for the automount script
[05:21] <dylan_> hi everyone
[05:22] <dylan_> is it true that linux is virus and spyware free?  is it secure by default?
[05:22] <_iGadget_> oblib: I'm going to need it once I start watching DVD's & stuff in linux
[05:22] <Kyynara> where's the new root terminal thingy? :)
[05:22] <KinkoBlast> apokryphos: OK, thanks
[05:22] <Bonzodog> dylan_:more or less
[05:22] <El_Che> dylan_: in the practice yes
[05:22] <apokryphos> KinkoBlast: actually... that script might just look for ntfs/fat drives. Better to automount it, I guess; I can talk you through it later
[05:22] <_iGadget_> oblib: somehow that's something I still prefer windows for...
[05:22] <El_Che> dylan_: but security depends on the user
[05:22] <apokryphos> Kingbahamut: s/automount/manually mount/
[05:22] <dylan_> Bonzodog, cause i dont want to waste my time with something i was promised to be damn secure
[05:22] <dooglus> surfdue: did you try deleting the blt package from you cache?
[05:22] <dylan_> El_Che, if i just merely installed linux and left virtually all settings at default, would you say i was secure with ubuntu?
[05:23] <surfdue> no
[05:23] <surfdue> how do i delete it peminetly
[05:23] <Kyynara> where's the new root terminal
[05:23] <El_Che> dylan_: pretty secure yes
[05:23] <Kyynara> or where can i set it on
[05:23] <apokryphos> dylan_: totally, yes.
[05:23] <surfdue> i did sudo apt-get --purge remove blt
[05:23] <surfdue> and then apt-get update
[05:23] <vlad> how do you change what loads by default in grub ? move it around in the edit list so it is the first option ?
[05:23] <brenner> heh, i've left mine as default
[05:23] <surfdue> then apt-get install blt
[05:23] <Bonzodog> Kyynara, root terminal?
[05:23] <_iGadget_> oblib: as soon as I have the time, I'd like to try to dedicate my secondary (VGA) output as a video-only device
[05:23] <KinkoBlast> dylan_: A hell of a lot more so than with windows - asuming you had a decent password.
[05:23] <dylan_> apokryphos, im totally secure?  why are there so many antivirus programs for llinux?
[05:23] <vlad> mr. bonzodog
[05:23] <dylan_> and for the mac os x
[05:23] <El_Che> dylan_: you can install a firewall if you want to be secure, several included in ubuntu
[05:23] <_iGadget_> oblib: do you think that's achievable?
[05:23] <vlad> hekp
[05:23] <dooglus> surfdue try that then.  "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/blt_*"
[05:23] <apokryphos> dylan_: haha; no there aren't
[05:23] <vlad> k is intentional
[05:24] <dylan_> apokryphos, panda antivirus for linux, and the ones in synaptic
[05:24] <apokryphos> dylan_: and if they are, they're only ever used for servers, where you can get Windoze viruses
[05:24] <dylan_> apokryphos, so why arent there any linux viruses?  wikipedia says there are.
[05:24] <Kyynara> Bonzodog: yes, where I was automatically a super user, without having to use sudo
[05:24] <apokryphos> dylan_: I might as well ask why there's so many editors in Linux (there's at least 30, I'd say)
[05:24] <apokryphos> !tell dylan_ about linuxvirus
[05:24] <Bonzodog> Ununtu doesn't have one
[05:24] <dylan_> apokryphos, and is it true that the only reason windows is so insecure is that there are so many windows computers?
[05:24] <hyperactivecrond> !clamav
[05:24] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: Are you smoking crack?
[05:25] <hyperactivecrond> !wiki security
[05:25] <dylan_> apokryphos, thanks for the link
[05:25] <Kyynara> Bonzodog: well it did in hoary
[05:25] <apokryphos> dylan_: absolute trash; do a search on Google for linux virus, maybe with "windows". It annihilates that point.
[05:25] <Kyynara> or atleast something similar
[05:25] <Bonzodog> I haven't seen one....
[05:25] <apokryphos> dylan_: some windoze users like to think that though
[05:25] <hyperactivecrond> search teh wiki if you _REALLY_ need to for clamav
[05:25] <El_Che> dylan_: they are rather proff of concept. Virii are possible in linux, but really rare. Because it's a multi user OS, a virus does not do the same damage as in windows
[05:25] <Lupin[lvl] > im trying to download/update some repositories, but it seems to not be downloading, is there anything i need to do to get it to work?
[05:25] <Bonzodog> I've always just used sudo
[05:25] <apokryphos> UNIX-based systems are nothing like windoze; they simply don't suffer the same security flaws
[05:25] <dylan_> El_Che, thanks
[05:25] <_iGadget_> clamav is told to be quite okay...
[05:25] <dylan_> apokryphos, thanks
[05:25] <co0kie-dk>   cool, im running centericq :D
[05:26] <dylan_> apokryphos, may i ask one last question?
[05:26] <Kyynara> it was in applications > System tools > Root terminal
[05:26] <hyperactivecrond> also the worst thing a linux virus can do without being root is delete some files in your /home
[05:26] <apokryphos> dylan_: shoot
[05:26] <KinkoBlast> dylan_: Partly. If Linux was WAY more popular, there would be more problems, but not much. Windows was porrly built.
[05:26] <hyperactivecrond> nothing catastropic but annoying nontheless
[05:26] <Lupin[lvl] > anyone?
[05:26] <vlad> Can someone please tell me how to change what is default in Grub ? Move it up in the list in the menu.lst ?
[05:26] <dylan_> apokryphos, would you say that the mac os x tiger 10.4 is more or less secure than linux?  they seem to advertise osx as really terribly secure and unbreakable....is linux the same?
[05:26] <surfdue> same error
[05:26] <HappyFool> heh. i consider my /home dir to be the most important area of my hdd ;)
[05:26] <surfdue> this really sucks!
[05:27] <hyperactivecrond> !wiki
[05:27] <hyperactivecrond> eergh
[05:27] <hyperactivecrond> !grub
[05:27] <ubotu> I guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:27] <hyperactivecrond> vlad: klik and read
[05:27] <RockyBurt> anyone know if there are nagios 2.0 beta debs available for ubuntu ?
[05:27] <caonex> _iGadget_, are you able to hibernate?
[05:27] <surfdue> "dpkg ../../src/packages.c:191 process-queue: assertion 'depentry <=4' failed" <<< is it possible to fix this????
[05:27] <hyperactivecrond> !tell me about nagios
[05:27] <dylan_> KinkoBlast, i assume that linux would have to be at least 10% more popualr than windows for viruses to ever begin to appear, and that the linux developer community would simply fix those issues, correct
[05:27] <dylan_> ?
[05:27] <HappyFool> vlad: there should be a 'default' line in menu.lst; change the number after that
[05:27] <_iGadget_> does anyone know how to configure samba in such a way, that when I copy files from windows to linux, they're not all set to executable?
[05:27] <caonex> _iGadget_, do you have the clock constant at 1GHZ?
[05:27] <_iGadget_> caonex: nope
[05:27] <KinkoBlast> dylan_: Yep. That's about it.
[05:27] <pupil> Strangest thing keeps happpening to me,. everytime my thin client logs in,.. my .ICEauthority file ownership changes to root.. which results that if I restart my window manger, I can't login
[05:27] <pupil> restart window manger on server
[05:27] <_iGadget_> caonex: I'm told that's an ATI problem
[05:27] <hyperactivecrond> !tell _iGadget_ about samba
[05:27] <vlad> hello ?
[05:28] <brenner> vlad: change default <number> where number is the order it appears in the grub menu (NB: count starts from 0)
[05:28] <apokryphos> dylan_: Mac is meant to be very secure, but I don't know much of it. However, I can assure you entirely of Linux's, erm, potency ;-)
[05:28] <dylan_> KinkoBlast, so why arent there more linux users?
[05:28] <hyperactivecrond> dylan_: blame MS
[05:28] <El_Che> _iGadget_: set a default mod in samba (of in de dir)
[05:28] <dylan_> apokryphos, thanks a googol, apokryphos you have really helped! :-)
[05:28] <caonex> _iGadget_, the clock or the hibernate question?
[05:28] <hyperactivecrond> m$
[05:28] <Revellion> dylan_: simple reason
[05:28] <KinkoBlast> dylan_: Noone really knows. Probably people are scared by it.
[05:28] <vlad> thanks
[05:28] <_iGadget_> caonex: well I had once... but sometimes it's 2GHz constant
[05:28] <brenner> vlad: if you move it up to the start of the file, you'd need to set default to 0 (which it probably already is)
[05:28] <apokryphos> dylan_: Open Source isn't much accepted in America; MS is not helping; user-friendliness of Windoze (in many scenarios), is not as good on Linux (in some cases).
[05:28] <Revellion> i'll quote my sig which is quoted from elsewhere
[05:28] <Revellion> > Linux is not user-friendly.
[05:28] <Revellion> It _is_ user-friendly. It is not ignorant-friendly and idiot-friendly.
[05:28] <caonex> _iGadget_, what ubuntu you using breezy?
[05:29] <caonex> _iGadget_, i never have it at 2ghz constant
[05:29] <_iGadget_> caonex: yup
[05:29] <pupil> Strangest thing keeps happpening to me,. everytime my thin client logs in,.. my .ICEauthority file ownership changes to root.. whereby when I restart my window manger on the terminal server, I can't login
[05:29] <Bonzodog> also, OEMs shipping computers with windows pre-installed doesn't help
[05:29] <surfdue> oh man common
[05:29] <caonex> _iGadget_, i have it at 1ghz and someone told me it was normal, it is the cpu throttling...
[05:29] <surfdue> this shouldnt be taht hard to fix ..
[05:29] <Revellion> Bonzodog: that is one reason too
[05:29] <surfdue> heh
[05:29] <surfdue> i need an expert
[05:29] <vlad> so if my option has the saveddefault tag and i go to the default line and type saved it will load that item ?
[05:29] <KinkoBlast> Revellion: Little things like having to install something special to play MP3s doens't help (I know why, I'm just saying..)
[05:30] <HappyFool> vlad: um. i use a number, usually
[05:30] <brenner> vlad: iirc, yes.  read the comments in the grub file
[05:30] <Revellion> KinkoBlast: that is distro specific ;P
[05:30] <pupil> Revellion,  Strangest thing keeps happpening to me,. everytime my thin client logs in,.. my .ICEauthority file ownership changes to root.. whereby when I restart my window manger on the terminal server, I can't login
[05:30] <_iGadget_> oh no... ubuntulinux.org is also unreachable to me :(
[05:30] <vlad> thanks all
[05:31] <Lupin[lvl] > anyone know how to set my ubuntu to update through my proxy? i have web browser and irc/messengers all going through but i dont think i can update ubuntu
[05:31] <GigaClon>  is there a way to disable network setup on boot, some times im away from the network
[05:31] <glassloop123> helow all... :)
[05:31] <pupil> GigaClon, do a custom install
[05:31] <_iGadget_> caonex: well that's good then... I must admit that I'm not in Ubuntu right now, so I can't check
[05:31] <vlad> so if i messed up my grub and i reboot now im screwed :P
[05:31] <caonex> _iGadget_, ok
[05:31] <glassloop123> trying ubuntu for the first time here now :) try to spoil myself holding back not to start the xterm in linux :)
[05:32] <pupil> vlad, what is the problem?
[05:32] <glassloop123> he he he
[05:32] <HappyFool> Lupin[lvl] : do you use synaptic? i see a 'Network' tab under the preferences settings there, with a proxy field
[05:32] <vlad> none im just afraid i might have messed something up
[05:32] <GigaClon> pupil, I just want to disable everyonce in a while, because when I start up with out a connection it takes forever to boot
[05:32] <HappyFool> GigaClon: try typing 'Ctl-C' during the boot
[05:32] <Lupin[lvl] > HappyFool: I dont know synaptic (^^;
[05:33] <KinkoBlast> What is a good replacement for notepad? (Notepad, not Word!)
[05:33] <brenner> vlad: not being able to boot is unlikely.  you're just changing the default boot after all
[05:33] <HappyFool> Lupin[lvl] : what are you using? apt-get ?
[05:33] <pupil> GigaClon, i foget which file to edit for startup options
[05:33] <HappyFool> KinkoBlast: gedit
[05:33] <GigaClon> KinkoBlast, or SciTE
[05:33] <Lupin[lvl] > HappyFool: ah i found what you were talking about, i'll give it a try, thanks (^^
[05:33] <HappyFool> KinkoBlast: applications -> accessories -> text editor
[05:33] <Echelon-H> how can I add repositories to the sources.list?
[05:33] <KinkoBlast> oh.
[05:33] <_iGadget_> El_Che: but which option is it exactly? I can't seem to find the right one...
[05:33] <HappyFool> !tell Echelon-H about repositories
[05:34] <El_Che> _iGadget_: mmm, i don'thave it handy here. Lemme think
[05:34] <dylan_> apokryphos, would you mind helping me get totem working in epiphany?
[05:35] <apokryphos> dylan_: never use epiphany, sorry
[05:35] <Bonzodog> people: read this site, and substitute the word 'hoary' for 'breezy': http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[05:35] <dylan_> lol
[05:35] <jbroome> i haven't had an epihany in a while
[05:35] <_iGadget_> El_Che: is it create mode = 0700?
[05:35] <glassloop123> i had 2 hdisk, when doing a default install, after formating the disk1, ubuntu goes straight into installation process....is there a way to specify a mount point manually?
[05:35] <HappyFool> Bonzodog: tsk tsk, we frown on ubuntuguide around here
[05:35] <Bonzodog> why
[05:35] <KinkoBlast> Will someone back me up here? My mom is trying to convince me to use Internet Explorer, I don't think she gets that there isn't such a thing as IE for Linux!
[05:35] <Bonzodog> it still works
[05:35] <HappyFool> !tell Bonzodog about ubuntuguide
[05:36] <_iGadget_> KinkoBlast: why on earth would she want IE?!
[05:36] <Echelon-H> !tell echelon-h about repositories
[05:36] <HappyFool> KinkoBlast: shown her firefox ?
[05:36] <Echelon-H> how can i switch windows in irssi?
[05:36] <KinkoBlast> HappyFool: Duh I have.
[05:36] <jbroome> ubuntuguide
[05:36] <jbroome> crap, sorry guys.
[05:36] <jbroome> Echelon-H: alt-window # works
[05:36] <jbroome> or alt-a cycles through active windows
[05:36] <HappyFool> KinkoBlast: does she require specific features?
[05:37] <pupil> GigaClon, apt-get install rcconf    that will allow you to turn on and off services at startup
[05:37] <Lupin[lvl] > i got this error when i pressed reload on the synaptic manager: W: GPG error: http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[05:37] <noodle> !tell noodle about ubuntuguide
[05:37] <Lupin[lvl] > what should i do?
[05:37] <pupil> GigaClon, Do a google search to find out what each service is, .. you might not want to turn off inetd
[05:37] <KinkoBlast> Happyfool: She likes this one game that doesn't work quite right in Firefox (due to non-complience with the standards!) and she says that "no one uses that IE clone anyway"
[05:37] <KinkoBlast> (here words)
[05:38] <KinkoBlast> (*her words)
[05:38] <_jason> KinkoBlast:  maybe through WINE?  whats the game, maybe we can get it to work?
[05:38] <erisco> i recently installed a wack of linux games through synaptic... but most of them don't appear in my games menu.... how do i ad them to t?
[05:38] <Bonzodog> Lupin[lvl] , you in .ie?
[05:38] <KinkoBlast> _jason: Runescape. The sound.
[05:38] <HappyFool> Lupin[lvl] : try changing the repositories from ie.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com -- you can do this in synaptic, i in think (under preferences -> repositories)
[05:38] <Lupin[lvl] > Bonzodog: yes
[05:38] <Bonzodog> same here
[05:38] <Lupin[lvl] > dublin?
[05:39] <Bonzodog> Galway
[05:39] <Lupin[lvl] > HappyFool: thanks
[05:39] <KinkoBlast> _jason: It doesn't work under Fx/Windows either.
[05:39] <brenner> erisco: smeg
[05:39] <Lupin[lvl] > Bonzodog: nice, I'm at DCU but from Limerick
[05:39] <ubuntu> test
[05:39] <pupil> brenner, what is smeg?
[05:39] <erisco> brenner, they do not appear under smeg either
[05:39] <ubuntu> hello boys n girls
[05:39] <strike3> anybody help with pan newsreader - how to purge - can you add to toolbar
[05:39] <brenner> pupil: menu editor for gnome
[05:40] <Echelon-H> arrg im on text mode can anyone please tell me how to add repos?
[05:40] <pupil> brenner, lol.. ohh
[05:40] <brenner> erisco: you have to create your own shortcut for them
[05:40] <brenner> using smeg
[05:40] <erisco> brenner, how do i do this then?
[05:40] <Bonzodog> hmmm...I didn't get that GPG error off the .ie servers
[05:40] <Lupin[lvl] > HappyFool: I couldnt find that option
[05:40] <brenner> erisco: install smeg, run smeg. :)
[05:40] <Bonzodog> just done a re-load
[05:40] <pupil> brenner, I think he want to know where the games went when they intalled
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> Echelon-H, just uncomment those that are commented
[05:40] <erisco> i ahve smeg
[05:40] <erisco> have*
[05:40] <KinkoBlast> Echelon-X: startx :-P
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> erisco, get smeg first
[05:40] <erisco> it doesn't see all the games i put on
[05:40] <brenner> Echelon-H: open up /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:41] <erisco> only like 2/10
[05:41] <_iGadget_> pffff... smb.conf manpage is terrible :s
[05:41] <brenner> Echelon-H: uh, whoops..
[05:41] <HappyFool> Lupin[lvl] : under Preferences -> repositories, there should be a list
[05:41] <Lupin[lvl] > its mainly complaining from some repository cdrom... thing, im not sure what it is exactly, but its the first one that was ticked by default in the repositories window, i thinkt hats causing the problem
[05:41] <HappyFool> Lupin[lvl] : oh ?
[05:41] <djjason> Does someone here use bitlbee?
[05:41] <Echelon-H> thanks
[05:42] <Lupin[lvl] > yes, when i do an update it complains that it cant find those packages and cant install them
[05:42] <brenner> Echelon-H: yeah, open up that file and uncomment the repos you need, then sudo apt-get update
[05:42] <spyromus> hi
[05:42] <Acill> can I tpe a command or use the packagemanager to upgrade from the PPC version of Hoary to Breezy Badger?
[05:42] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , In your sources.lst file uncomment the cdrom line at the top,. if you are reffering to apt-get
[05:42] <HappyFool> Lupin[lvl] : hrm, i'm not sure, sorry. you shouldn't see errors relating to ie.archive.ubuntu.com if it's the cd problem
[05:42] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , I mean comment it out
[05:42] <brenner> Acill: see topic
[05:42] <Lupin[lvl] > I'm not sure exactly what I'm refering to, I'm new to linux (^^;
[05:43] <Bonzodog> Lupin[lvl] , untick the CD or comment it out in sorces.list
[05:43] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , and maybe try using  de.ubuntu
[05:43] <KinkoBlast> Is there something like "konfabulator" for linux?
[05:43] <brenner> Acill: architecture doesn't matter afaik. not certain though.
[05:43] <dooglus> surfdue: did you delete the file from the cache and re-download it?
[05:43] <Lupin[lvl] > i cant seem to find the location where i can change the d/l source
[05:43] <Lupin[lvl] > and is it ok to untick the cdrom thing? i'm not turning off anything i need?
[05:43] <spyromus> I've got a weird problem: "man: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct". Similar messages from most console apps. I know that I removed some locale packages when was upgrading to a newer version of glibc. Now I can't get them back because they aren't for my glibc version. :( any suggestion?
[05:43] <wickedpuppy> KinkoBlast, that konfabulator ... is it a software for windows ?
[05:44] <axisys__1> Servo888: dvd::rip does not fit in my laptop screen .. can't resize it
[05:44] <wickedpuppy> it sounds like a kde app
[05:44] <Bonzodog> untick the CDRom, the Irish sources are fine
[05:44] <Acill> brenner:is it easy to do? How do I tell for sure I am on Horary? Firefox opens to the welcome to Horary page so I am guessing I have that
[05:44] <Servo888> axisys__1, that's strange...
[05:44] <brenner> strike3: i don't get it. what do you want to do?
[05:44] <Bonzodog> the cdrom is just the inital install disk
[05:44] <axisys__1> Servo888: when i try to open new project
[05:44] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , edit this file etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <Seveas> spyromus, why did you upgrade glibc? and from where
[05:44] <vlad> How do i execute an rpm file ?
[05:44] <stewski> konfabulator is desktop widget software
[05:44] <dooglus> someone should put a message in the topic to clear this up.  the irish sources are NOT fine.
[05:44] <Bonzodog> vlad: use alien on it
[05:44] <Seveas> vlad, you put a gun to it and pull the trigger
[05:44] <axisys__1> Servo888: it shows the top but not sure what in the bottom
[05:44] <stewski> stuff like weather applet etc
[05:44] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:45] <vlad> alien on it ?
[05:45] <Seveas> then you find a deb file for the thing you want
[05:45] <brenner> Acill: system > about gnome. if it's 2.10 you're running hoary
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> it is a kde app right ?
[05:45] <vlad> jokes
[05:45] <spyromus> Seveas, some app required it (perhaps it was new version of blender)
[05:45] <stewski> IIve run it on windows
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> i don't get his question
[05:45] <Lupin[lvl] > okay pupil
[05:45] <brenner> Acill: 2.12, you're running breezy
[05:45] <Seveas> spyromus, you caused hell to your system by doing that
[05:45] <Bonzodog> vlad: not a joke
[05:45] <surfdue> how do i get vncserver on my server
[05:45] <surfdue> whats the package name
[05:45] <Seveas> you'd better reinstall.
[05:45] <vlad> how do i use alien on it
[05:45] <KinkoBlast> wickedpuppy: Konfabulator is for OS X and Windows 2000/XP
[05:45] <Acill> okay it 2.10
[05:45] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , if you see a line at the top that says deb cdrom,.
[05:45] <surfdue> i want to be able to view gnome from my windows machine
[05:45] <Bonzodog> there is aprog called alien that converst rpms to .debs
[05:45] <Seveas> vlad, what is inside it?
[05:45] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , comment it out
[05:45] <surfdue> is it called vino?
[05:45] <Lupin[lvl] > deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[05:45] <vlad> guifications for gaim
[05:45] <Lupin[lvl] > that?
[05:45] <Acill> need to read that link in the topic to figure it out
[05:45] <stewski> yup XP and OSX
[05:45] <Seveas> vlad, throw out the deb
[05:45] <Servo888> axisys__1, you could run a virtual desktop, of say 1280x1024 resolution on a smaller resolution screen - that will allow you to see the entire program
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> funny ... it sounds like a kde app
[05:45] <Seveas> vlad, throw out the rpm i mean
[05:46] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , comment it out
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> lol
[05:46] <vlad> oh
[05:46] <vlad> okay
[05:46] <bur[n] er> surfdue: it is, and vino is installed by default
[05:46] <spyromus> Seveas, argh... I hate to see that Ubuntu Hoary packages are being updated that slowly! :(
[05:46] <Seveas> vlad and install guifications from apt
[05:46] <El_Che> _iGadget_: force mask = 550
[05:46] <vlad> apt ?
[05:46] <El_Che> _iGadget_: check the samba docs
[05:46] <KinkoBlast> wickedpuppy: widgets.yahoo.com
[05:46] <Seveas> spyromus, hoary will not get updates.
[05:46] <surfdue> how do i configuer it?
[05:46] <Acill> anything I need to know before i attempt it? I am a linux noob. I have been a Mac user forever and I have a Pegasos with Ubuntu on it now
[05:46] <Lupin[lvl] > whats a comment syntax in this? (^^;
[05:46] <Lupin[lvl] > #?
[05:46] <axisys__1> Servo888: hmmm sorry not sure how to do that
[05:46] <_iGadget_> El_Che: thanks, I'll try that one.
[05:46] <strike3> brenner: add shortcut to toolbar to set group read.  set to purge all read mesages on exit
[05:46] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , and change the other two lines from http;//us.archive.etc,. to http://de.archive
[05:46] <vlad> Seveas I thought rpm was supposed to be easy and nice
[05:46] <spyromus> Seveas, why? what about Breezy?
[05:46] <Seveas> vlad, it's crappy
[05:46] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , " # "
[05:46] <stewski> yeah Ks give that impression
[05:46] <Seveas> spyromus, it
[05:46] <El_Che> _iGadget_: there are several settings related to it, the mask is like a limit a file kan have as permission
[05:46] <Seveas> 's stable
[05:47] <elad_> Does anyone here know how to use the picture language under DrScheme? I've found http://schemecookbook.org/Cookbook/MiscSICP but it isn't working properly.
[05:47] <erisco> is there another way to edit menus besides smeg? it is a very poor program... i can't even delete, cut, paste, etc
[05:47] <vlad> Seveas, i am new to linux so i dont know how to use apt
[05:47] <Servo888> axisys__1, it would be done by editing the xorg.conf file, but I'm sure what ever ubuntu's configuration editor is - it should do it for you.
[05:47] <bur[n] er> !tell vlad about synaptic
[05:47] <Seveas> vlad: sudo apt-get install gaim-guifications
[05:47] <Seveas> no stupid rpms needed
[05:47] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] ,  use ##
[05:47] <Lupin[lvl] > okay, but i cant seem to edit it from my user acc
[05:47] <brenner> heh, ppor amaranth
[05:47] <brenner> *poor even
[05:47] <_iGadget_> El_Che: hmmm... there's nothing in man smb.conf about force mask...
[05:47] <vlad> gaim-guifications i gotta go download it i assume ?
[05:47] <elad_> oops, wrong channel
[05:48] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:48] <wickedpuppy> Lupin[lvl] , sudo
[05:48] <erisco> there seriously has to be a better gnome menu editor
[05:48] <Seveas> vlad, no
[05:48] <pupil> puff, when prompted for password type your password
[05:48] <Belutz> vlad, it's available in synaptic
[05:48] <dooglus> is there a list of package mirrors anywhere?
[05:48] <Seveas> apt does that for you
[05:48] <_iGadget_> El_Che: it goes from force group to force printername
[05:48] <Seveas> !mirrors
[05:48] <ubotu> I heard mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:48] <Bulbul> what is the package name for x?
[05:48] <dooglus> Seveas: I mean ubuntu.com mirrors - like ie., us., cz. and so on
[05:48] <vlad> ohh
[05:48] <Lupin[lvl] > sudo /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[05:48] <Seveas> dooglus, most of them point to archive.ubuntu.com anyway
[05:49] <_iGadget_> El_Che: I do have a force create mode here, though
[05:49] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:49] <Seveas> Lupin[lvl] , sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources/list
[05:49] <Bulbul> Lupin[lvl] : sudo nano...
[05:49] <brenner> strike3: don't think the toolbar is customisable :-/
[05:49] <Bulbul> what is the package name for x?  i did a server install.
[05:49] <dooglus> Seveas: I know.  and archive.ubuntu.com is broken.  I'm trying to find which ones don't point there.  like us., cz. and se. don't.
[05:49] <brenner> unfortunately
[05:49] <djdxm2669> edon-irc.net
[05:49] <brenner> dooglus: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:49] <Seveas> dooglus, archive.ubuntu.com isn't broken...
[05:50] <Lupin[lvl] > okay it seems to be working now, thanks :)
[05:50] <brenner> those are the real mirrors imho
[05:50] <vlad> that synaptic wiki is broken
[05:50] <vlad> how do i open synaptic ?
[05:50] <erisco> how do i make a shortcut to an application?
[05:50] <Bulbul> !tell bulbul x
[05:50] <dooglus> Seveas: archive.ubuntu.com resolves to 4 different IP addresses.  2 of the 4 are broken
[05:50] <strike3> brenner: what about the purge - how do i get rid of read messages
[05:50] <bur[n] er> vlad: System -> Administration -> synaptic
[05:50] <Dav1> hi i need help in installing gnutella 0.9.4
[05:50] <Seveas> dooglus, right...
[05:50] <vlad> thanks bur[n] er
[05:50] <Seveas> define 'broken'?
[05:51] <Bonzodog> vlad: system > administration >synaptic package manager
[05:51] <pupil> dooglus, Strangest thing keeps happpening to me,. everytime my thin client logs in,.. my .ICEauthority file ownership changes to root.. whereby if I restart my window manger on terminal server, I can't login
[05:51] <bur[n] er> that wiki link works fine for me
[05:51] <bur[n] er> :P
[05:51] <Bulbul> anyone?
[05:51] <dooglus> Seveas: broken means "don't contain the packages"
[05:51] <brenner> strike3: does newsgroup > delete work?
[05:51] <Seveas> dooglus, hmm
[05:51] <Seveas> ok
[05:51] <Dav1> can anyone please help em
[05:51] <Dav1> me
[05:51] <dooglus> Seveas: try http://82.211.81.193/ubuntu/dists for instance
[05:51] <surfdue> i have eth0 running on dhcp, i want to change it to static ip how do i configure it, there is a command i jsut forget
[05:51] <J_Man> ok...looking for opinions - how is Ubuntu Server?
[05:51] <KinkoBlast> music+child porn+warez = p2p
[05:51] <vlad> damn i cant find guifications in synaptic
[05:51] <Bulbul> !tell bulbul xorg
[05:51] <dooglus> Seveas: and http://82.211.81.167/ubuntu/dists
[05:52] <bur[n] er> KinkoBlast: and windows trojans!
[05:52] <brenner> Dav1: what problems you hacing?
[05:52] <brenner> *having
[05:52] <KinkoBlast> is there a reverse polish notation calculator for linux?
[05:52] <dooglus> KinkoBlast: you forgot movies
[05:52] <Bonzodog> vlad: use the search function and type in gaim
[05:52] <Belutz> vlad, enable the universe repos
[05:52] <KinkoBlast> bur[n] er, dooglus: good points :-P
[05:52] <bur[n] er> vlad: check that link for "repositories" from the synaptic wiki page :P
[05:52] <J_Man> Kinko - dc I think uses RPN
[05:52] <Bulbul> Please? What's the package name for X?
[05:52] <dooglus> KinkoBlast: echo "2 3 + p" | dc
[05:52] <Bonzodog> oh, yeah, universe and multiverse repos
[05:52] <Dav1> its just that i dont know how to install the progame in question
[05:53] <elliot246> Good Morning, anyone have experience with the "FakeRaid" howto from the wiki?
[05:53] <vlad> i typed in gaim in the search and it doesnt give me gui fications in there Bonzodog
[05:53] <Seveas> Bulbul, x-window-system
[05:53] <bur[n] er> vlad: u need universe
[05:53] <Seveas> KinkoBlast, dc
[05:53] <Bulbul> thanks!
[05:53] <vlad> universe ?
[05:53] <bur[n] er> vlad: check that god forsaken link you fewl ;)
[05:53] <vlad> how do i enable universe repos ?
[05:53] <J_Man> vlad - read the wiki about repositorites :P
[05:53] <pupil> GigaClon, oh yeah,. you need to enable universe and multiverse
[05:53] <J_Man> it'll tell you
[05:53] <vlad> damn ittt
[05:53] <bur[n] er> !tell vlad about repositories
[05:53] <GregorSamsa> hmmm strange my usb-mouse works but the wlan-stick doesn
[05:54] <GregorSamsa> `t
[05:54] <wickedpuppy> lol ... he means you need to uncomment universe and multiverse from sources.list
[05:54] <KinkoBlast> Hmm
[05:54] <KinkoBlast> Is there a program like vim or emacs for ubuntu?
[05:54] <pupil> Kingbahamut, heh
[05:54] <J_Man> apt-get install vim
[05:54] <brenner> Dav1: there are gnutella programs in the repo....easiest to install that way.e.g. by using synaptic
[05:54] <dooglus> KinkoBlast: vim and emacs are like vim and emacs.
[05:54] <J_Man> or apt-get install emacs
[05:54] <Acill> using the link to upgrade, I have the universe stuff added too I see. Do I change from hoary-security to breezt-security ect like I did with the others it mentions?
[05:54] <bur[n] er> KinkoBlast: vim or emacs :)
[05:54] <J_Man> :)
[05:54] <pupil> Kingbahamut, if you don't have it,. apt-get install program
[05:55] <Bonzodog> repositories are things we stick up your a*** when you ask stupid questions......
[05:55] <surfdue> !ifconfig
[05:55] <ubotu> I don't know, surfdue
[05:55] <Acill> hope you know what I am asking
[05:55] <dooglus> J_Man: it's called 'emacs21'
[05:55] <brenner> lol
[05:55] <Bonzodog> hehehe
[05:55] <wickedpuppy> KinkoBlast, we got vim and emacs
[05:55] <J_Man> what a nasty package name
[05:55] <Dav1> !tell dav1 install gnutella
[05:55] <KinkoBlast> wickedpuppy: Cool
[05:55] <J_Man> should be just emacs :P
[05:55] <Joetheodd> Hey guys, I just finished dist-upgrading to breezy. I restarted and all I have is the console. How do I get my desktop back?
[05:55] <surfdue> anyone know how to change my lan connection settings
[05:55] <surfdue> itsnt it like netsetup
[05:55] <J_Man> <-- vim user
[05:55] <Bonzodog> emacs =evil
[05:55] <vlad> it would be nice to know how repositories work without just mindlessly doing it :P
[05:55] <bur[n] er> Joetheodd: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:55] <Bonzodog> nano user
[05:55] <pupil> Joetheodd, startx
[05:55] <Seveas> surfdue, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[05:55] <J_Man> vlad - it's in the wiki
[05:55] <brenner> Dav1: dcgui or gtk-gnutella look ok
[05:55] <Dav1> ubuntu do you know how to install gnutella into ubuntu linux 5.04
[05:55] <Joetheodd> emacs && vim == evil, pico && nano > you.
[05:55] <dooglus> J_Man: then theres xemacs21 as well of course
[05:55] <KinkoBlast> !tell vlad about repos
[05:55] <bur[n] er> Joetheodd: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:56] <elliot246> Anyone have experience doing a manual install and using the grub shell?
[05:56] <Joetheodd> Alright, thanks.
[05:56] <J_Man> pico and nano are for newbies
[05:56] <dooglus> I use "nvi" - it starts up so much more quickly
[05:56] <bur[n] er> KinkoBlast: i already did that for vlad ;)  vlad is just lazy
[05:56] <vlad> going to eat
[05:56] <vlad> be back in a bit
[05:56] <vlad> vlad is not lazy
[05:56] <vlad> :P
[05:56] <brenner> Dav1: i'm telling you now
[05:56] <vlad> vlad read it
[05:56] <vlad> and did it
[05:56] <bur[n] er> lol
[05:56] <vlad> vlad is stubborn
[05:56] <bur[n] er> ok :)
[05:56] <Lupin[lvl] > im having alot of trouble just trying to get video codecs onto my comp, i started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats which then told me to go here and do this first: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto which i followed to the end but dont understand the last section :[
[05:56] <wickedpuppy> vlad, it would be nice of you to read the wiki pages we been showing ya instead of asking us
[05:56] <vlad> thanks for the help
[05:56] <surfdue> how do i get all gnome config packages, gnome use to have a network setup guio
[05:56] <surfdue> gui
[05:56] <vlad> you guys are the same as MUD gods always pointing to help files
[05:56] <vlad> HELP FILE PUSHER
[05:56] <vlad> :P
[05:56] <bur[n] er> surfdue: gnome-system-tools
[05:56] <Seveas> surfdue, network-manager
[05:56] <J_Man> exactly
[05:57] <KinkoBlast> There is one, surfdue
[05:57] <vlad> ill be back later
[05:57] <Dav1> !tell dav1 about installing gnutella 0.95.4
[05:57] <vlad> thanks again
[05:57] <J_Man> it helps you to learn to help yourself, rather than depending on us
[05:57] <Bonzodog> nano is cool: I am not a newbie
[05:57] <brenner> pfft
[05:57] <Bonzodog> have been using linux since 1994
[05:57] <GregorSamsa> nano rocks ;)
[05:57] <brenner> suit yourself
[05:57] <KinkoBlast> I like nano too
[05:57] <J_Man> nano is for people who can't figure out vim
[05:57] <bur[n] er> Lupin[lvl] : define "last step" ?
[05:57] <J_Man> :P
[05:57] <Dav1> !tell dav1 about gnutella
[05:57] <bur[n] er> er... last section
[05:57] <Joetheodd> Alright, I'm on my brothers computer (windows, ugh!). I'm gonna go try that now. Thanks bur[n] er
[05:57] <Bonzodog> editor flame war!!!
[05:57] <bur[n] er> Joetheodd: good luck
[05:57] <J_Man> hehe :)
[05:57] <KinkoBlast> it's handy when you only want to type out a few lines of text
[05:58] <bur[n] er> Joetheodd: learn to use 'irssi' from you linux box ;)
[05:58] <J_Man> the ONLY true editor
[05:58] <Dav1> !tell dav1 about installing P2P clent
[05:58] <surfdue> you guys talk on to many lines, to fast!
[05:58] <bur[n] er> even in text mode it works ;)
[05:58] <surfdue> :)
[05:58] <Lupin[lvl] > bur[n] er from here: On Hoary Hedgehog and Breezy Badger, paste the the repository information, as seen the next section and click ok.
[05:58] <GregorSamsa> when you're working on a system where you have to change config-files all the time you'll love nano ;)
[05:58] <_iGadget_> El_Che: found it!
[05:58] <KinkoBlast> J_Man: You dare disregard ed, the one true editor!?
[05:58] <elliot246> Does anyone have an idea where I can go (another channel) that someone may know about manual installs?
[05:58] <_iGadget_> El_Che: it's creat mask = 0600
[05:58] <Bonzodog> pico/pine say I
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> elliot246, manual install ? from source ?
[05:59] <Dav1> is there any P2P client that i can use that wont wreck my head during the installation
[05:59] <KinkoBlast> ?
[05:59] <J_Man> Kinko - the one true editor is edlin.exe
[05:59] <J_Man> :)
[05:59] <KinkoBlast> ?
[05:59] <Lupin[lvl] > i ended up adding this: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted, which crashed the synaptic manager and now its complaining about the ie.ubuntu address again
[05:59] <KinkoBlast> ?
[05:59] <bur[n] er> Lupin[lvl] : that's only for adding additional ones ;)
[05:59] <_iGadget_> El_Che: create, that is
[05:59] <J_Man> mirrormax is gone
[05:59] <bur[n] er> Lupin[lvl] : u just need universe & multiverse
[05:59] <KinkoBlast> (hint: H to turn on verbose mode!)
[05:59] <KinkoBlast> ?
[05:59] <Bonzodog> Lupin[lvl] , leave out backports
[05:59] <bur[n] er> no need for external ones
[05:59] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : don't use the ie. address.  half the ie. servers aren't working.  use us.
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> Lupin[lvl] , no backports pls
[05:59] <Lupin[lvl] > i know nothing about backports
[05:59] <strike3> brenner: yes thats it - can you not do that automatically on exit - used dialog+agent+xnwews etc and they all have this - pan seems limited in this respect
[05:59] <hawking> I have ubuntu in my computer and I want to install damn small linux to my usb-disk.But I don't have a cd-writer to burn the iso of damn small.Is there any way?
[05:59] <slibs> i'd like to install one program, but it doesn't have make & configure files, or any sh files, just istaller.pl, how do i install program like that?
[05:59] <Bonzodog> the Ie servers are working
[05:59] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75278
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> Dav1, azureus ...
[06:00] <Bonzodog> the us ones aren't
[06:00] <dooglus> Bonzodog: 2 of the 4 are working.
[06:00] <elliot246> wicked: I believe so, this is my first manual install and I'm following the 'FakeRaidHowto' from Wiki, I'm having a slight issue about devices in the grub shell.
[06:00] <Lupin[lvl] > pupil, i tried that but it didnt work
[06:00] <dooglus> Bonzodog: what IP addresses do you see for the ie. servers?
[06:00] <KinkoBlast> ed>(nano=vim=emacs)>touch and cat
[06:00] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] ,  http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt
[06:00] <slibs> any idea how to install from .pl files?
[06:00] <igotq> how do i configure a tightvnc server on ubuntu ? the default config files seem to be ba
[06:00] <dooglus> Bonzodog: you can run this to find out: echo $(host ie.archive.ubuntu.com | awk '{print $4}')
[06:00] <wickedpuppy> elliot246, pls ask the specific question here ... perhaps those who knows will tell ya
[06:01] <pupil> ./file
[06:01] <igotq> d
[06:01] <brenner> strike3: not too sure to be honest...it *is* relatively lightweight, but that's why i like it
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> slibs, .pl is usually perl scripts
[06:01] <diesis> hya
[06:01] <SamanthaGothLove> Hey guys
[06:01] <pupil> slibs, ./file
[06:01] <diesis> need help with ifplugd and wifi card
[06:01] <KinkoBlast> is there an environment faster than GNOME?
[06:01] <slibs> pupil: thanks
[06:01] <dwessell> Hey all
[06:01] <Lupin[lvl] > before i do anything else i must change the synaptic servers, i know you described where before but i cant find it exactly, where do i change that?
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> chmod +x something.pl if it has no execute bit and ./something.pl
[06:01] <avinoam> i'm looking at my cfdisk output for my harddrive, and between each partition, i have a bunch of unusable space, which adds up to quite a lot
[06:02] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : they're in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:02] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , type " /topic "
[06:02] <wickedpuppy> KinkoBlast, fluxbox
[06:02] <hawking> is there a way to change the file system of a flash disk from fat16 to ext3 with linux?
[06:02] <brenner> KinkoBlast: many
[06:02] <igotq> how do i configure a tightvnc server on ubuntu ? the default config files seem to be bad?
[06:02] <brenner> KinkoBlast: xfce, icewm, fluxbox....
[06:02] <Bonzodog> 82.211.81.167;  82.211.81.182;  82.211.81.193;  82.211.81.151
[06:02] <El_Che> hawking: format id
[06:02] <El_Che> it
[06:02] <dooglus> Bonzodog: and all 4 of those are working for you?
[06:02] <_iGadget_> allright... next step: reroute x-windows to remote desktop or apply remote desktop
[06:02] <RockyBurt> odd, there are no ubuntu 2.0beta debs for ubuntu/debian ?
[06:03] <pupil> why is no one helping me
[06:03] <Bonzodog> well, I don't have problems with updates and new progs from there
[06:03] <dwessell> What can I use for downloading MP3's in IRC? I used to use Autoget in Mirc, is their something comparable?
[06:03] <strike3> brenner: cheers for the help
[06:03] <Lupin[lvl] > i dont remember the commands to edit the file
[06:03] <J_Man> grrrr, there's still a bug in Breezy installation
[06:03] <Lupin[lvl] > blah....... so much work
[06:03] <J_Man> *grumbles*
[06:03] <dooglus> Bonzodog: 'cos I think ...167 and ...193 don't have any packages
[06:03] <elliot246> Okay, well I go to setup the device mapping for my RAID 0 in the grub shell. I'm booted from the breezy live cd and the instructions say to add 'device (hd0,0) /dev/mapper/via_(name of array) now since I chrooted into the install it doesn't have a mapper in the devices, how do I find the partition names to add to grub?
[06:03] <brenner> strike3: didn't do much. :)
[06:03] <_iGadget_> igotq: that's what I want to find out, too
[06:03] <KinkoBlast> dwessel: DCC Is built into most orc clients
[06:03] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , not,. it isnt,. I have been using linux for 4 days now
[06:03] <J_Man> on machines with more than one CD, if it finds a CD with another CD in the first drive, it pukes
[06:03] <wickedpuppy> Lupin[lvl] , sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list
[06:03] <igotq> _iGadget_: i think the package is broken, is there a bug report on it ?
[06:03] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , maybe 6 actually
[06:04] <_iGadget_> igotq: no idea
[06:04] <slibs> is there a wiki about recompiling kernel?
[06:04] <brenner> strike3: maybe email the devs, suggestin the two features...
[06:04] <dooglus> Bonzodog: that's because you got lucky - you're using one of the 2 that works.
[06:04] <dwessell> KinkoBlast, I was thinking of something more of a download manager for IRC.
[06:04] <pupil> slibs, why do you want to do that?.. and yes there is
[06:04] <dwessell> Something that tracks queues, and auto requests.
[06:04] <slibs> pupil: "your kernel was build with gcc version 3.4.5 while you are trying to use gcc version 4.0.2"
[06:04] <Lupin[lvl] > deb http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted is that the line i should change?
[06:05] <dooglus> Bonzodog: visit http://82.211.81.167/ubuntu/dists and you'll see it's not working.  visit http://82.211.81.151/ubuntu/dists and it's fine.
[06:05] <_iGadget_> igotq: but looking at the description, wouldn't x11vnc be a much better choice?
[06:05] <dooglus> Bonzodog: do you see the same?
[06:05] <pupil> slibs, export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4    but make sure you have gcc-3.4
[06:05] <_iGadget_> x11vnc - VNC server which uses your current X11 session
[06:05] <bluefoxicy> Question:  How do I turn a bin/cue into an ISO
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> slibs, you install gcc 3.4 and pass the option CC=gcc3.4 while doing makeconfig
[06:05] <bluefoxicy> (retarded windows friends downloaded stupid CD formats)
[06:06] <_iGadget_> I wonder what happens if I install x11vnc through a remote SSH login
[06:06] <Bonzodog> yeah, see what you mena
[06:06] <slibs> alright
[06:06] <Bonzodog> *mean
[06:06] <igotq> _iGadget_: and does that work ?
[06:06] <_iGadget_> it probably won't take over the default, already running x session, will it?
[06:06] <dooglus> Bonzodog: the us.archive.ubuntu.com name resolves to a different 4 IP addresses, and they all work.
[06:06] <_iGadget_> igotq: don't know... will try
[06:06] <_iGadget_> soon
[06:07] <pupil> bluefoxicy, do you have k3b
[06:07] <_iGadget_> have to pick up my GF from the train first
[06:07] <igotq> k, keep me updated in PM :)
[06:07] <_iGadget_> and then do some cooking, probably
[06:07] <erisco> i really need help getting XML::Parser to make
[06:07] <_iGadget_> igotq: you too :)
[06:07] <dooglus> _iGadget_: it won't take over anything, no
[06:07] <olicat> can anyone suggest a good ide for ruby?
[06:07] <erisco> i have a full terminal of errors... about 4000 chars of errors
[06:07] <bluefoxicy> pupil:  no kde apps
[06:07] <olicat> a gtk+ one, preferably
[06:07] <erisco> is there somewhere i can go for help?
[06:08] <OBrianUbuntu> hell yeah, lots of people... big crowd allright :] 
[06:08] <pupil> bluefoxicy, use cat
[06:08] <_iGadget_> dooglus: okay... then I won't even try, thanks :)
[06:08] <bluefoxicy> pupil:  will that work?
[06:08] <hawking> I have the iso file of damn small linux but I have no cd-writer is there no way to install it in my usb drive without having a live cd? can someone help me pls?
[06:08] <dooglus> _iGadget_: why not?
[06:08] <erisco> ................
[06:08] <KinkoBlast> Umm.. dumb question 12325: Is there a Visual Basic clone for linux?
[06:08] <dooglus> _iGadget_: you can set it up and then connect to it...
[06:08] <DarkFame> KinkoBlast, yes
[06:08] <pupil> bluefoxicy, I dunno actually,. don't listen to me, I'm a NEWBIE
[06:08] <Lupin[lvl] > 	$ sudo apt-get install manpages-dev   pupil: these commands dont seem to work directly since i dont have the proxy specified, can they be accessed through the synaptic manager?
[06:08] <iapx8088> mmh, I'm mostly disappointed
[06:08] <KinkoBlast> darkfame:What is it?
[06:09] <bluefoxicy> hawking:  copy the .iso to the root of your USB drive and boot off it?  Try using syslinux?
[06:09] <iapx8088> breezy is great but broke my hibernation support
[06:09] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , do you have a proxy ?
[06:09] <_iGadget_> dooglus: is that so? Okay... And what client should I use when I want to connect from windows? RealVNC? TightVNc?
[06:09] <Lupin[lvl] > yes
[06:09] <DarkFame> KinkoBlast, gambas
[06:09] <iapx8088> it was working flawlessy under hoary.
[06:09] <OBrianUbuntu> wow, na oficjalnym #ubuntu /n
[06:09] <hawking> thanks bluefoxicy
[06:09] <erisco> the start of the errors is that "expact.d" is not a file or directory
[06:09] <hawking> what's syslinux btw?
[06:09] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , ask dooglus
[06:09] <KinkoBlast> _iGadget_: I use cygwin/X and ssh -y (user@ip)
[06:09] <erisco> and this is at the beggining of the make
[06:09] <dooglus> _iGadget_: I've used RealVNC in the past
[06:09] <vlad> woooooo the repository thing worked
[06:09] <vlad> i got guifications
[06:10] <pupil> erisco, what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:10] <dooglus> _iGadget_: you can use a web browser too if you like
[06:10] <pupil> erisco,  or make
[06:10] <KinkoBlast> _iGadger_ -Y enables X fwarding.
[06:10] <erisco> pupil, i am trying to install XML:Parser
[06:10] <hawking> bluefoxicy : what is syslinux?
[06:10] <timello> guys
[06:10] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus?
[06:10] <erisco> pupil, and it begins the make process and then errors out
[06:10] <pupil> erisco,  you ahve build essential ,. etc
[06:10] <vlad> I have a question, if i want to add a path to all my music for the Rhythmbox player but my path is in my windows OS can i still add it safely ?
[06:11] <bluefoxicy> hawking: google it
[06:11] <erisco> pupil, i have only build-essential
[06:11] <dooglus> erisco: you can install the package.  no need to build it
[06:11] <erisco> pupil, is there something else i need?
[06:11] <dooglus> erisco: the package is 'libxml-parser-perl'
[06:11] <iapx8088> anyone knows if dpkg saves old conf files, during a dist-upgrade
[06:11] <timello> I did a apt-get dist-upgrade and everthing seems to be ok, except my accents... idea?
[06:11] <iapx8088> ?
[06:11] <pupil> erisco,  listen to dooglus
[06:11] <erisco> dooglus, i will try that thanks
[06:11] <_iGadget_> dooglus / KinkoBlast: sounds good! But isn't cygwin payware?
[06:11] <vlad> anyone know ?
[06:11] <DarkFame> iapx8088, it does. I think they are renamed to dist-upgrade
[06:11] <KinkoBlast> What is the most common scripting language among ubuntu users? (please don't let it be Python...... I hate python....)
[06:11] <dooglus> _iGadget_: cygwin is GPL'ed I believe
[06:11] <iapx8088> DarkFame, thanks
[06:11] <DarkFame> iapx8088, gdm-conf.dist-upgrade for example
[06:11] <KinkoBlast> _iGadget_:No.
[06:12] <erisco> wicked dooglus, i can't thank you enough
[06:12] <erisco> now just to make glib...
[06:12] <timello> I use the layout: U.S English International (with dead keys)
[06:12] <_iGadget_> KinkoBlast: so it's Cygwin on the windows side, and x11vnc on the linux side with ssh?
[06:12] <dooglus> _iGadget_: "Most of the tools are covered by the GNU GPL, some are public domain, and others have a X11 style copyright." (from http://cygwin.com/licensing.html)
[06:13] <brenner> vlad: i don't see why not.  have you mounted the partition?
[06:13] <_iGadget_> allright... I'll look into it later, thanks!
[06:13] <KinkoBlast> _iGadget_ No, Cygwin/X on windows (make sure you install x!) and sshd on linux.
[06:13] <vlad> no i havent brenner mnt folder is empty, i heard somewhere its not safe to play with NTFS partitions in linux
[06:13] <vlad> how do i mount it ?
[06:13] <pupil> vlad, foolishness
[06:13] <_iGadget_> KinkoBlast: okay... that makes it somewhat more complicated then
[06:14] <vlad> was it supposed to be mounted pupil ?
[06:14] <brenner> vlad: write is still not supported, read is perfectly safe
[06:14] <KinkoBlast> _iGadget_: If you want VNC, there is RealVNC for windows, it works well
[06:14] <vlad> alright, how do i mount it ?
[06:14] <dylan_> will linux always be as secure as it is now
[06:14] <brenner> ubotu: tell vlad about ntfs
[06:14] <brenner> vlad: i assume it's NTFS
[06:14] <vlad> thanks
[06:14] <vlad> yeah it is
[06:14] <erisco> dam again
[06:14] <vlad> ill read
[06:14] <iapx8088> DarkFame, found. Actually is .dpkg-old
[06:14] <dooglus> dylan_: no, some day it will be better
[06:14] <_iGadget_> great... I'll look into it. Thanks!
[06:14] <erisco> i would say about 15000 chars of errors on the make of glib
[06:15] <dooglus> brenner: holes are being fixed all the time.
[06:15] <erisco> is there a package for that too maybe?
[06:15] <dylan_> dooglus, but never worse?  there will always be no viruses spyware right?
[06:15] <dooglus> erisco: there are packages for everything :)
[06:15] <dooglus> erisco: use 'synaptic' to search for them
[06:15] <brenner> dooglus: as in NTFS support?  not much point with me. i've wiped windows off this laptop. :)
[06:15] <dooglus> dylan_: new code gets written.  with new code come new holes
[06:15] <dylan_> dooglus, thanks
[06:16] <pupil> brenner, sometimes s dude needs to access or back up files
[06:16] <vlad> if i mount the partition like it is listed here brenner, then until the time i unmount it it will stay there ?
[06:16] <PatrikJohansson> hey, im trying to get ventrilo working, were do i find the file "~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system.ini" ??
[06:16] <brenner> vlad: yes
[06:16] <dooglus> brenner: I think you've misunderstood something.  I didn't talk about NTFS
[06:16] <pupil> vlad, when you add it to the fstab, it mounts at start up
[06:16] <Tracy_P> 128MB ram, 3gig ext3 and 320mb swap, should I expect everything to take 30 to 40 seconds to open, sometimes over 2 minutes?
[06:16] <PatrikJohansson> yes i have installed wine and it seems to be working
[06:16] <sunshine82> i need to set up my webcam i got the driver install i need help i dont understand about xamtv and v4l and stuff like that does any one can help#] 
[06:16] <brenner> dooglus: i guess so. what *are* you talking about? :)
[06:16] <pupil> vlad, and you can umount anytime you want
[06:16] <erisco> dooglus, there is only glibc-doc
[06:17] <erisco> i don't think that will be the same as glib
[06:17] <diesis> no one experinced with ifplugd ?
[06:17] <vlad> is there any downside of having it mounted all the time pupil ?
[06:17] <pupil> vlad, not that I know off
[06:17] <erisco> can't hurt to get it anyways
[06:17] <pupil> vlad, ask dooglus
[06:17] <PatrikJohansson> hey, im trying to get ventrilo working, were do i find the file "~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system.ini" ??
[06:17] <vlad> dooglus is in this channel ?
[06:17] <brenner> lol
[06:17] <Lupin[lvl] > pupil i dont know what im supposed to ask about, using proxy through terminal?
[06:18] <vlad> is brenner laughing at my newbness
[06:18] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , you want to be able to use proxy right?
[06:18] <Lupin[lvl] > i can, but i cant seem to download through the terminal
[06:18] <pupil> valdyn_, I am probably NEWBIER than you
[06:18] <brenner> vlad: sort of i guess.  dooglus has been helping out in here since i dropped in an hour or two ago
[06:18] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , how exactly are you donwloading?
[06:18] <bur[n] er> pupil: it only mounts if it has "auto" in fstab though
[06:18] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , with wget?
[06:19] <bur[n] er> just being in fstab alone doesn't mean it will mount
[06:19] <dooglus> erisco: what do you need to install?
[06:19] <GreenFireD> hello people
[06:19] <Lupin[lvl] > sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[06:19] <Lupin[lvl] > the line from the txt you pasted http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt
[06:19] <pupil> bur[n] er, understood,. I assumed he had the correct mount options
[06:19] <bur[n] er> PatrikJohansson: i assume that file is in ~/.wini/drive_c/windows :P
[06:20] <Dav1> how do i run scripts in the root terminal
[06:20] <St^Anger^19m> !wine
[06:20] <bur[n] er> u know what assuming does?  makes an ass out of u and me ;)
[06:20] <Lupin[lvl] > also its talking about warty warthog, im using breezy
[06:20] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , ask dooglus or bur[n] er
[06:20] <PatrikJohansson> bur[n] er: yeah i guess so too, but what does that mean ?? ( embarrased )
[06:20] <Lupin[lvl] > ask them what?
[06:20] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , how to set up proxy for your purposes
[06:20] <kevin_> i am in HK and hk.archive.ubuntu.com is too slow... i think my network is fine, so why is the mirror so slow ... what can we do then
[06:20] <bur[n] er> PatrikJohansson: ~ == /home/username
[06:20] <Lupin[lvl] > is there not a simple way to just get codecs working?
[06:20] <sunshine82> xawtv will not start it say v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such device
[06:20] <sunshine82>  whic meansMeans there is no driver module for the hardware loaded yet but how do i set the driver module
[06:21] <vlad> brenner i used the script and it mounted the drive but it lists the size as 0gb is this because it is NTFS ?
[06:21] <dooglus> erisco: could it be "libglib2.0-dev" that you need?
[06:21] <Dav1> !tell dav1 root terminal
[06:21] <bur[n] er> PatrikJohansson: no worries, ~ isn't very descriptive to a newb... just know it means your home directory
[06:21] <bur[n] er> PatrikJohansson: and .wine is a hidden directory due to the "." in front
[06:21] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus how do i set up my proxy for downloading through the terminal?
[06:21] <Dav1> !tell dav1 about root terminal
[06:21] <PatrikJohansson> burn[n] er: ok how do i acces it??
[06:21] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : using lynx you mean?  or wget, curl, or what?
[06:21] <pupil> vlad,  did you use df -l to discover disk space?
[06:22] <Lupin[lvl] > im trying to follow this: http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt
[06:22] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : and what terminal?  a gnome-terminal?  or a virtual console?
[06:22] <vlad> nope i just killed the script too
[06:22] <Dav1> !tell dav1 about w32 codecs
[06:22] <brenner> vlad: no on the NTFS thing.  i mounted mine previously using that script.  it should give you the size of the partition.
[06:22] <bur[n] er> PatrikJohansson: term, nautilus, etc.
[06:22] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus a gnome terminal
[06:22] <GreenFireD> I want to install the new BETA version of Bittorrent, how I need to do this? through Synaptic, I can't(it writes me that the files wasn't uploaded), through dpkg I also can't because I have bittorrent(that comes with Ubuntu), how I need to delete or to upgrade the Bittorrent witch I have now
[06:22] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : using what program?
[06:22] <brenner> vlad: ask Seveas. him and nalioth wrote that script
[06:22] <bur[n] er> PatrikJohansson: open nautilus to the home direcoty... show hidden files, and browse to it
[06:22] <bur[n] er> then open system.ini with gedit
[06:22] <PatrikJohansson> bur[n] er: yeah but if its hidden :P
[06:22] <Seveas> brenner, which script?
[06:22] <Lupin[lvl] > apps>accessories>terminal
[06:22] <vlad> it doesnt matter actually the size i have another question brenner
[06:22] <PatrikJohansson> bur[n] er:  thx
[06:22] <bur[n] er> PatrikJohansson: there's an option in nautilous to show hidden files
[06:22] <brenner> Seveas: winmac_fstab
[06:23] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : how are you trying to download anything
[06:23] <bur[n] er> PatrikJohansson: ctrl+h :)
[06:23] <Seveas> ah that
[06:23] <vlad> brenner, for some reason none of the players can read mp3 .. ?
[06:23] <Seveas> what's the prob?
[06:23] <bur[n] er> !mp3
[06:23] <Seveas> did I f* up again?
[06:23] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[06:23] <PatrikJohansson> bur[n] er:  thx alot
[06:23] <Lupin[lvl] > i dont know, all i want to do is install the video codecs and i cant get a clear answer what to do
[06:23] <brenner> Seveas: vlad's size has shown up as 0
[06:23] <Seveas> hmm
[06:23] <bur[n] er> PatrikJohansson: you're very welcome sir
[06:23] <Seveas> that's merely cosmetic :)
[06:23] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : the w32codescs?
[06:23] <brenner> vlad: bur[n] er's answered that.
[06:23] <pinucset> will gaim 2.0 support voip of gtalk?
[06:24] <bur[n] er> pinucset: supposedly... it's vaporware right now
[06:24] <vlad> what bur[n] er ?
[06:24] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus, whichever codecs will let me play avi,asf, wmv, mpg and their related codecs such as divx
[06:24] <vlad> ohh
[06:24] <brenner> Seveas: heh, i guess.
[06:24] <bur[n] er> Lupin[lvl] : i have w32codecs from etch?
[06:24] <bur[n] er> !w32codecs
[06:24] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[06:24] <vlad> daaamn i need to install support for mp3 :P
[06:24] <Lupin[lvl] > i tried that and it didnt work
[06:24] <pupil> bur[n] er, Strangest thing keeps happpening to me,. everytime my thin client logs in,.. my .ICEauthority file ownership changes to root.. whereby when I restart my window manger on the terminal server, I can't login
[06:24] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : you saw ubotu's w32codecs message?
[06:24] <bur[n] er> vlad: it's, like, totally non-free!
[06:24] <GreenFireD> I want to install the new BETA version of Bittorrent, how I need to do this? through Synaptic, I can't(it writes me that the files wasn't uploaded), through dpkg I also can't because I have bittorrent(that comes with Ubuntu), how I need to delete or to upgrade the Bittorrent witch I have now
[06:25] <bur[n] er> vlad: it's mindless to install :P
[06:25] <Lupin[lvl] > when i did this in terminal: sudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse , it said it couldnt find it
[06:25] <bur[n] er> Lupin[lvl] : how didn't it work?
[06:25] <bur[n] er> Lupin[lvl] : couldn't find what exactly?
[06:25] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , one at a time
[06:25] <DarkFame> Lupin[lvl] , did you run apt-get update first?
[06:25] <bur[n] er> multiverse?
[06:25] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : are you on 'breezy'?
[06:25] <Lupin[lvl] > im on breezy
[06:25] <vlad> but but bur[n] er i want to be able to play mp3s and wmv .....!
[06:25] <bur[n] er> vlad: and you can
[06:25] <Lupin[lvl] > im just trying to do what im getting told
[06:25] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , you have to install one package at a time.,not all
[06:25] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : did you try using synaptic?
[06:26] <mustard5> Lupin[lvl] , enable extra repositories
[06:26] <Lupin[lvl] > and im getting told alot of things
[06:26] <Lupin[lvl] > and i dont know which to follow
[06:26] <vlad> how bur[n] er
[06:26] <bur[n] er> !mp3
[06:26] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[06:26] <bur[n] er> vlad: like that
[06:26] <bur[n] er> :P
[06:26] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , follow dooglus
[06:26] <vlad> maaan stupid installing stuff
[06:26] <bur[n] er> lol
[06:26] <dooglus> pupil: that's not true.  you can install as many as you like at once
[06:26] <St^Anger^19m> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996 I'm trying to follow this guide, but some packages arent available
[06:26] <Lupin[lvl] > okay, dooglus yes im on breezy
[06:26] <pupil> dooglus, I encountered same problem when attempting it,. so  I am suggegsting one at a time
[06:27] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] :first make sure you're using a working mirror.  "us", "cz" and "se" are the only working ones I know of at the moment
[06:27] <bur[n] er> vlad: look at it this way... once you have your setup, you never have to go see if a component has been upgraded... if there's an update, update-notifier will tell you
[06:27] <Lupin[lvl] > i was using de
[06:27] <bur[n] er> rather than going to winamp.com or whateverwindowsapp.com and seeing if there's an update, then finding the download, then installing it
[06:27] <pupil> dooglus, maybe I have to change something,. let me attempt it
[06:27] <GreenFireD> How can I install the new Bittorrent BETA?
[06:27] <bur[n] er> bleh
[06:27] <bur[n] er> Bittorrent beta?
[06:27] <brenner> so what free sound formats are there?
[06:27] <Jedrick> is there a new bittorrent?
[06:27] <bur[n] er> GreenFireD: i assume from source
[06:27] <sunshine82> does anyone know about fixin xamtv
[06:28] <Lupin[lvl] > alright dooglus i changed it to se
[06:28] <vlad> okay bur[n] er i hope i can get it to work
[06:28] <bur[n] er> brenner: ogg
[06:28] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : now "sudo apt-get update"
[06:28] <sunshine82> how do i check which card i have
[06:28] <bur[n] er> vlad: good luck, it's trivial once you get the universe and multiverse repositories added
[06:28] <bur[n] er> sunshine82: lspci ?
[06:28] <pupil> dooglus, I learn something everyday,. firs time I tried it,. it didn't work,. but since then . I have updated distro,. sources.lst,. etc
[06:28] <brenner> bur[n] er: ah.  need to do research, but is the quality better or worse?
[06:28] <Bonzodog> .ogg is the open source format most in use...it has better compression
[06:28] <bur[n] er> er... that sucks, lspci doesn't really work
[06:28] <pupil> dooglus, only been using linux for the past 6 days or so
[06:28] <vlad> bur[n] er im doing it through terminal with sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3
[06:29] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus its at 0% and 'connecting to etc', but i dont think it will go any further because im behind a proxy
[06:29] <erisco> yes got glib to install... i just went to a later version
[06:29] <Bonzodog> but i've been told it isn't worth converting my mp3's to it
[06:29] <vlad> bur[n] er is that wrong ?
[06:29] <bur[n] er> brenner: depends on bitrate used of course, just like mp3 and wmv do, but generally it can compress more and have better quality
[06:29] <PatrikJohansson> can anyone tell me how to install the packet "libwine-alsa" if its not found in my repositories?? Wich do i have to add??
[06:29] <brenner> Bonzodog: i've heard lossy -> lossy == more lossy. :)
[06:29] <bur[n] er> vlad: that works, but k3b-mp3?  why that?
[06:29] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : ok.  what if you use synaptic?  does that know about your proxy?
[06:29] <brenner> bur[n] er: interesting
[06:29] <bur[n] er> vlad: gstreamer0.8-mad is what you're looking for i think
[06:29] <johns^> qc
[06:29] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: it does
[06:29] <GreenFireD> bur[n] er, I can't to do this with Synaptic...
[06:29] <johns^> sorry, rong term
[06:29] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , you can begin typing person's name you want to chat too and press tab to autocomplete
[06:29] <bur[n] er> GreenFireD: i assume not
[06:29] <sunshine82> bur[n] er but how do i get a driver module for my hardware
[06:30] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : ok, so use synaptic to install those packages.
[06:30] <erisco> dam i think i got two glibs installed now
[06:30] <vlad> bur[n] er i dont know what k3b mp3 is it just seemed like that will allow my programs to play mp3s ?
[06:30] <ponk> is ubuntu compatible with debian? can I use packages for debian with ubutnu?
[06:30] <bur[n] er> GreenFireD: beta stuff usually isn't in synaptic till it's stable
[06:30] <Lupin[lvl] > d tab brings up a list pupil >_<
[06:30] <erisco> *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.8.0, but GLIB (2.8.3)
[06:30] <erisco> *** was found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best
[06:30] <erisco> ....
[06:30] <bur[n] er> vlad: nope
[06:30] <diesis> is tehre someone experienced with ifplugd ?
[06:30] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , then type more of the person's name
[06:30] <starscalling> i'm having a small problem with my trash bin :P
[06:30] <erisco> though i do not remember installed 2.8.3
[06:30] <bur[n] er> vlad: did you see that wiki page about mp3? ;)  gstreamer0.8-mad is key
[06:30] <vlad> bur[n] er then what the hell is it installing right now :P
[06:30] <vlad> no i didnt :P
[06:30] <ponk>  is ubuntu compatible with debian? can I use packages for debian with ubutnu?
[06:30] <igotq> what is apache's default user ?
[06:30] <brenner> ponk: iirc, no. better use ubuntu packages.
[06:30] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: i dont know where to find them in the list, its a big list, and when i tried to find it last time it wasnt there
[06:30] <bur[n] er> k3b-mp3 is mp3 to cd-audio using the k3b cd burner i assume
[06:30] <dooglus> ponk: sometimes
[06:31] <pupil> ponk, yes you can
[06:31] <bur[n] er> igotq: www-data
[06:31] <GreenFireD> bur[n] er, ok so i tryed to download the source and to do dpkg -i , and nothing. I think that the reason is that I have Bittorrent(that comes with Ubuntu)
[06:31] <starscalling> it doesnt seem to realize that its deleted whats in it already, therefore does not change back to the default empty icon.
[06:31] <ponk> huh? you no or somthimes???
[06:31] <vlad> so bur[n] er what did i just install then :P ?
[06:31] <bur[n] er> ponk: 50/50 shot
[06:31] <HappyFool> erisco: 2.8.3 is the standard breezy version
[06:31] <starscalling> is there something i can do about that?
[06:31] <bur[n] er> vlad: scroll up, i said ;)
[06:31] <bur[n] er> vlad: apt-cache show k3b-mp3
[06:31] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: now when i ran synaptic it complained this: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://se.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:31] <Lupin[lvl] > W: Couldn't stat source package list http://se.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:31] <Lupin[lvl] > W: Couldn't stat source package list http://se.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:31] <ponk> omg...
[06:31] <bur[n] er> no pasting!!!!
[06:31] <bur[n] er> !paste
[06:31] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:31] <ponk> so how do I complie stuff?
[06:31] <bur[n] er> ponk: ever done it before?
[06:32] <ponk> nope
[06:32] <pupil> Lubi do not paste in here,. use http;//paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:32] <Lupin[lvl] > alright bur[n] er
[06:32] <sunshine82> does anyone know about xamtv
[06:32] <ponk> I'm with ubuntu 15 minutes
[06:32] <lui> hello
[06:32] <bur[n] er> ponk: how comfortable are you with problems? ;)
[06:32] <starscalling> lol
[06:32] <bur[n] er> ponk: use linux before?
[06:32] <starscalling> compiling is fun
[06:32] <sunshine82> or how to get my webcam to work
[06:32] <ponk> problems suck...
[06:32] <vlad> ohhh
[06:32] <ponk> what do you mean?
[06:32] <bur[n] er> ponk: why compile?  what app you need?
[06:32] <pupil> ponk,  problems help you understand more
[06:32] <lui> how can I change to a 1260x1024 resolution in ubuntu?
[06:33] <ponk> I need drivers for my adsl modem
[06:33] <bur[n] er> ponk: sure it's not in universe or multiverse?
[06:33] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: did you catch that?
[06:33] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : no.
[06:33] <bur[n] er> ponk: u can't connect to it via CAT5 cable?
[06:33] <brenner> ubotu: tell lui about fixres
[06:33] <igotq> what is apache's default user on ubuntu?
[06:33] <ponk> whats that? I dont know...
[06:33] <bur[n] er> igotq: www-data
[06:33] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : let's set up your proxy then.
[06:33] <ponk> I have an ADSL ALE130 modem...
[06:33] <bur[n] er> ponk: it's like a phoen cable, but larger... no drivers needed that way
[06:33] <PatrikJohansson> can anyone tell me how to install the packet "libwine-alsa" if its not found in my repositories?? Wich do i have to add?? plz
[06:33] <Bonzodog> ponk: what type of modem is it
[06:33] <Bonzodog> ?
[06:33] <bur[n] er> you only need ADSL drivers if you connect to it via USB
[06:34] <Seveas> knoppix__, aren't you in the wrong channel? :)
[06:34] <dooglus> in the terminal: "export ALL_PROXY=http://yourproxyhost:yourproxyport"
[06:34] <aeon17x> ponk: tried running pppoeconf to set it up?
[06:34] <ponk> yep... I have USB...
[06:34] <jason0_> Can anyone recommend wifi cards (pcmia) that work right out of the box w/ ubuntu?
[06:34] <bur[n] er> ponk: there aren't other ports on the modem?
[06:34] <knoppix__> Hey guys, i used knoppix to change the swap part from primary to logical... how do i tell ubuntu about the new partition info for swap?
[06:34] <ponk> I have a guide that sais I need drivers...
[06:34] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: manual config in the synaptic package manager preferences under the network tab, proxy.dcu.ie and port 3128 for both http and ftp
[06:34] <bur[n] er> network cable (cat5) is simpler
[06:34] <Mattias> how do i install a lexmark x2250 printer on ubuntu?
[06:34] <pupil> jason0_, what card do you have?
[06:34] <jason0_> pupil: don't have one now.
[06:34] <bur[n] er> Mattias: system -> preferences -> printing
[06:34] <ironmc> I leave my computer on all the time and sometimes (too often) I can
[06:34] <sunshine82> does anyone know how to deal with xamtv
[06:35] <Seveas> knoppix__, it'll have a new number, so you need to change /etc/fstab
[06:35] <bur[n] er> Mattias: system -> administration -> printing
[06:35] <dooglus> in the terminal: "export ALL_PROXY=http://proxy.dcu.ie:3128"
[06:35] <Mattias> bur[n] er, won't work
[06:35] <sunshine82> or how to set up my webcam
[06:35] <aeon17x> Mattias: then choose the printer you have. It'll set up the driver for you.
[06:35] <gnu2it2> hi, i just installed ubuntu, when i try to play a dvd, it loads totum then errors"invoking dvdnav_get_next_block" any ideas?
[06:35] <Seveas> knoppix__, sudo fdisk -l will give you the needed info
[06:35] <ponk> so... how do I compile the damn drivers? :-)
[06:35] <Mattias> aeon17x, it crashes "gnome-cups-add" crashes
[06:35] <ironmc> I can't get it to wake up after hours of being left alone
[06:35] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: when i have the server as de instead of se it doesnt show that complaint
[06:35] <Seveas> gnu2it2, you might need libdvdcss2
[06:35] <ironmc> any ideas??
[06:35] <bur[n] er> sunshine82: sorry.. my webcam just worked
[06:35] <mustard5> PatrikJohansson, http://packages.ubuntu.com  lists all the packages for ubuntu....if it's in there and you can't find it then you need to enable extra repositories
[06:35] <aeon17x> Mattias: That's weird.
[06:36] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : I think that the "sudo apt-get install" would have deleted the files no matter which repo. you used.  apt-get deletes the files if it can't reach the network.  it's a known bug.
[06:36] <bur[n] er> !tell PatrikJohansson about repositories
[06:36] <Mattias> aeon17x, u know how i can fix it?
[06:36] <ponk> guys?? how to compile stuff?
[06:36] <predictive> has anyone tried ubuntu on the sunfire x2100 or x4100 machines
[06:36] <gnu2it2> cait9is
[06:36] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: i dont know what that means for me
[06:36] <dooglus> ponk: it depends on the stuff
[06:36] <brenner> jason0_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:36] <knoppix__> Seveas, the only thing i need to change is the fstab?
[06:36] <predictive> 1u opteron machines sun makes
[06:36] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : set the ALL_PROXY variable and try again with "sudo apt-get update"
[06:36] <Seveas> Knorrie, yes
[06:36] <aeon17x> Mattias: try looking at the syslog, see if it registered anything.
[06:36] <dooglus> in the terminal: "export ALL_PROXY=http://proxy.dcu.ie:3128"
[06:37] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: what ALL_PROXY variable?
[06:37] <lanir> hi , can i get only the _WORD_ thats match and not the whole LINE with grep :) ?
[06:37] <Lupin[lvl] > pupil: thanks
[06:37] <ponk> anyone???? how to compile stuff?
[06:37] <vlad> bur[n] er what was the command to figure out the mounted disk size so it didnt say 0gb
[06:37] <aeon17x> ponk: install build-essential first.
[06:37] <Bonzodog> theres a .deb modem driver for that modem...
[06:37] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , what did I do?
[06:37] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : just use that 'export' command
[06:37] <ponk> build-essential? whats that?
[06:37] <gnu2it2> css2
[06:37] <bur[n] er> vlad: df -h ?
[06:38] <Mattias> aeon17x, how?
[06:38] <aeon17x> ponk: it has all the basic compiler packages, like gcc.
[06:38] <vlad> bur[n] er just type that in the terminal ?
[06:38] <bur[n] er> vlad: yep
[06:38] <knoppix__> Seveas, knoppix won't let me write to the disk
[06:38] <bur[n] er> df == disk free -h == human readable
[06:38] <Lupin[lvl] > pupil: wrong person
[06:38] <Mattias> aeon17x, ah found syslog
[06:38] <vlad> bur[n] er ah it tells ME the sizes but it still displays 0gb on the desktop :P
[06:38] <knoppix__> Oh wait i think i got it
[06:38] <sunshine82> bur[n] er i download my driver but xamtv dont work and it sayin on it website it has something to do with driver modules i dont know what they are and wnhere to get them
[06:38] <ponk> and this thing doesnt come with the distro???
[06:38] <bur[n] er> vlad: oh, got me then ;)
[06:38] <Seveas> ponk, sure it does...
[06:38] <bur[n] er> sunshine82: what is xamtv?
[06:38] <Bonzodog> I would see if the modem driver worked, but I wouldn't like to guarantee it. All the sites indicate massive problems with linux distros
[06:38] <pupil> vlad, its just a file your looking at.,
[06:39] <bur[n] er> sunshine82: i use gnome-meeting for webcam stuff
[06:39] <aeon17x> ponk: It doesn't because they want to keep it small, and most normal users don't need to compile stuff on their own anyway.
[06:39] <Seveas> it's jusr not installed by default
[06:39] <ponk> so I guess I have it...
[06:39] <knoppix__> Seveas, it
[06:39] <ponk> huh? so how do I install?
[06:39] <knoppix__> Seveas, it's not letting me write on the disk
[06:39] <Bonzodog> http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download/nortek-2021/
[06:39] <bur[n] er> !tell ponk about synaptic
[06:39] <ironmc> sometimes after being left on for a while I can't get my machine to wake up afterwards - ABIT motherboard w/NVidia chipset  help please
[06:39] <bur[n] er> ponk: check yer msgs
[06:39] <Seveas> knoppix__, then mount the disk with rw option and make sure you try it as root
[06:39] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: its still stuck at 0%
[06:39] <Bonzodog> driver for modem
[06:40] <Bonzodog> is the one that ends in .deb
[06:40] <bur[n] er> sunshine82: apt-cache search xamtv shows nothing :\
[06:40] <pupil> dooglus, am I right,. concerning ntfs partitons you've mounted,. on the desktop you won't be able to see the size right?
[06:40] <pupil> dooglus,  you have to use df -h ?
[06:40] <bur[n] er> Bonzodog: you're too nice for looking that up for someone ;)
[06:40] <caonex> _iGadget_, there?
[06:40] <Bonzodog> ponk: you got that?
[06:40] <ponk> yeah...
[06:41] <arbeck> has anyone used the irc gdesklet?
[06:41] <Bonzodog> once you have it, open a terminal, and go to the directory where you downloaded it, and type :
[06:41] <ponk> so this are the programs I have but not installed?
[06:41] <brenner> ironmc: wake up after what? does it go into standby? does the monitor blank?
[06:41] <sunshine82> bur[n] er but i cant get gnomemeeting to use my webcam when i go to config it say no devices found after v4l
[06:41] <vlad> bur[n] er :P another problem the wiki you gave me with getting non free codecs to work only has files for 32 bit systems and im running 64 bit
[06:41] <pupil> Bonzodog, do you know if the Airplus G wireless adapter, can I use madwifi for that?
[06:41] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : I got a new one for you:
[06:41] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : http_proxy=http://proxy.dcu.ie:3128 sudo apt-get update
[06:42] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : that should work
[06:42] <Jedrick> 'how to use bittorrent?, where can i find the files to download. there's no search bar in there.
[06:42] <Bonzodog> $dpkg <filename>
[06:42] <alekz> i love ubuntu :)
[06:42] <ironmc> brenner  just being left on  I come back and niether the mouse or the keyboard works
[06:42] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: its done
[06:42] <Bonzodog> not sure
[06:42] <sunshine82> bur[n] er am i meant to put apt-cache search xamtv just like that or with sudo
[06:42] <dooglus> Jedrick: look on a torrent search site.  like mininova.org
[06:42] <Bonzodog> about the madwifi thing...
[06:42] <brenner> ironmc: but the desktop is still shown?
[06:42] <ponk> omg... can anyone help me on private... I dont understand a thing like that...
[06:43] <Jedrick> thnx man
[06:43] <pupil> dooglus, know anything about madwifei?
[06:43] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : before we go any further, put a line into your .bashrc file saying:  export http_proxy=http://proxy.dcu.ie:3128
[06:43] <pupil> dooglus, i mean madwifi
[06:43] <ironmc> no  either a black screen or a frozen screensaver
[06:43] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : then you won't have to type that any more
[06:43] <dooglus> pupil: nope
[06:43] <Bonzodog> ponk: you know how to use the terminal?
[06:43] <PatrikJohansson> is there any chance that i can use hoary packages in breezy??
[06:43] <RezDawg> i put a folder in the trash bin and it wont delete, says i dont have necessary permissions any ideas how i can delelte this
[06:43] <ponk> no
[06:43] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: where si that file?
[06:43] <sunshine82>  i download my webcam driver but xamtv dont work and it sayin on it website it has something to do with driver modules i dont know what they are and wnhere to get them
[06:43] <ponk> I just installed linux first time
[06:43] <brenner> ironmc: something to try on black screen: ctrl+alt+f7 and then move the mouse
[06:44] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : it's in your homr directory
[06:44] <Bonzodog> you will have to install off the terminal
[06:44] <pupil> Lupin[lvl] , use locate file
[06:44] <hajo> join irc.gnome.org
[06:44] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : because it begins with a dot, it's a "hidden file". "ls -a" will show it
[06:44] <brenner> ironmc: not sure about the screensaver thing...maybe a driver issue?
[06:44] <ironmc> thanks  I know ctrl+alt+backspace or del doesn't work
[06:44] <ponk> can anyone help me on private???
[06:44] <Bonzodog> ponk: freenode doesn't allow private
[06:45] <dooglus> Bonzodog: you can use private if you're registered.
[06:45] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: so how do i get to it from terminal to edit it/
[06:45] <ponk> huh?
[06:45] <Bonzodog> yeah, if you register....
[06:45] <Barney> hi guys..
[06:45] <RezDawg> ponk: whats your problem?
[06:45] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : um - depends what editor you want to use.  "gedit ~/.bashrc" is probably easiest
[06:45] <grgcsmc> how do i install an rpm file?
[06:45] <ponk> I dont know how to compile...
[06:45] <pupil> dooglus, bur[n] er, Strangest thing keeps happpening to me,. everytime my thin client logs in,.. my .ICEauthority file ownership changes to root.. whereby when I restart my window manger on the terminal server, I can't login
[06:45] <Bonzodog> need to tech ponk how to install a .deb from the CLI
[06:46] <Bonzodog> he has NEVER used it before
[06:46] <RezDawg> ponk: have you installed linux yet?
[06:46] <brenner> grgcsmc: what is it?
[06:46] <ponk> yep
[06:46] <vlad> bur[n] er SUCCES i got it to work :P
[06:46] <ponk> a few minures ago
[06:46] <caonex> anybody here installed fglrx?
[06:46] <grgcsmc> LimeWireLinux.rpm
[06:46] <igotq> _iGadget_ it worked ?
[06:46] <Bonzodog> he has an adsl modem driver file to install
[06:46] <lsald> eww..
[06:46] <caonex> igotq, i do not think he is here..
[06:46] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: anywhere in the file?
[06:46] <qwerrttyy> hello. I installed breezy then installed nvidia-glx, enabled it, restarted X, even restarted computer, but glxinfo returns: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3450 for my nvidia riva tnt2; what could be the problem?
[06:47] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : stick it at the top
[06:47] <brenner> grgcsmc: use alien to convert it to a deb file. then dpkg -i
[06:47] <Bonzodog> ponk go to applications>accessories> terminal
[06:47] <grgcsmc> huh?
[06:47] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: done
[06:47] <sunshine82> does anyone know how to work gnomemeeting or xamtv
[06:47] <Barney> Can anyone offer a word of advice for a stubborn laptop that doesn't seem to like Ubuntu cds?
[06:47] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : run a new terminal
[06:47] <ponk> http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/modems.php?modem=33 my modem
[06:47] <brenner> grgcsmc: alien converts rpms to debs
[06:47] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: new terminal open
[06:47] <lanir> hi
[06:47] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : in the new terminal run "sudo apt-get update" - does it wok now?
[06:47] <Bonzodog> ponk: you downloaded that file right?
[06:48] <grgcsmc> where is it?
[06:48] <brenner> grgcsmc: you can then install the deb using dpkg 0i <filenmae>
[06:48] <trinitrogen> This might be more of a programming question, but does anybody have some experience with GDB?
[06:48] <alekz> can someone recommend me a nice graphic ftp client ?
[06:48] <lanir> is there a Mac Like Dock panel that i can apt-get it ?
[06:48] <vlad> brenner wanna enlighten people how to use alien :P
[06:48] <ponk> its in my windows C...
[06:48] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: it does
[06:48] <dooglus> trinitrogen: yup
[06:48] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : good.
[06:48] <brenner> grgcsmc: already installed. cd into the dir the rpm file is in, the type 'alien <filename.rpm>
[06:48] <ponk> I access it form linux.
[06:48] <WildZeck> alekz, gftp
[06:48] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : so now try "sudo apt-get install whatever-it-was-you-were-trying-to-install"
[06:48] <Bonzodog> you need to get it to the linux install
[06:48] <alekz> thanks WildZeck
[06:48] <grgcsmc> thx
[06:48] <brenner> vlad: got it?
[06:48] <vlad> brenner yeah i got mp3s to work
[06:49] <trinitrogen> dooglus: Im trying to open up a core file and read what was in a variable. All I have is the source code and the core file, no executable.
[06:49] <vlad> brenner leeeet :P
[06:49] <Jedrick> dooglus: how can i specifically download mp3 files on bittorrent, i can't find any mp3's on mininova
[06:49] <ponk> I dont understand a thing... can anyone help me on private?
[06:49] <brenner> vlad: nah, meant the alien thing
[06:49] <grgcsmc> bash: alien: command not found
[06:49] <vlad> brenner ohh nope
[06:49] <vlad> brenner i dont know what alien is or where it is
[06:49] <Bonzodog> ponk: are you in windows at the moment?
[06:49] <dooglus> trinitrogen: you need the executable.  how did you get the core file if you don't have the program?
[06:49] <ponk> yes
[06:49] <trinitrogen> dooglus: I could compile the the source but I don't have rights to that directory so it has to go to my home direcotry
[06:49] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus did you get that paste?
[06:49] <valdyn_> Jedrick: commonly only collections of mp3 files are distributed over bittorent, like whole albums or whole album collections
[06:49] <trinitrogen> dooglus: Its part of the LearnSEcurityOnline challege server
[06:49] <brenner> vlad: it's just a program to convert RPM files into debs.  ubuntu is debain based and uses deb files for its packages
[06:50] <Bonzodog> right: can you access your windows dir from linux?
[06:50] <Barney> Hi.. I am trying to install breezy on a laptop, and as soon as I get to the language selection, the keyboard freezes up. Anyone else seen this problem?
[06:50] <brenner> vlad: other distros use rpms
[06:50] <ponk> yes
[06:50] <WildZeck> grgcsmc, install it (apt-get install alien , in a terminal after make sudo su to be root)
[06:50] <sunshine82> does no one know how to set v4l devices on breezy or set drivermodules on xawtv
[06:50] <Bonzodog> ok, reboot to linux
[06:50] <dooglus> Jedrick: mininova.org lists torrents.  torrents contain all kinds of files.
[06:50] <Bonzodog> transfer file to linux home dir
[06:50] <GreenFireD> hello, I want to install new GTK theme, I downloaded it from gnome-look and got one text file, Where I should to put this file?
[06:50] <vlad> brenner ah okay, so how do i use it if i get an rpm on my hands
[06:50] <hawking> wow ubuntu base system is bigger than 250 Mbs I can't install it in my usb-drive :/
[06:50] <arbeck> Anyone having issues with gdesklets?
[06:50] <hawking> that's sad
[06:51] <brenner> grgcsmc: yes, my mistake...it's not installed like WildZeck says
[06:51] <Jedrick> valdyn_: does that mean i can't download individual mp3 file/
[06:51] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : what paste?
[06:51] <brenner> *it's not installed, like WildZeck says. :)
[06:51] <grgcsmc> ok
[06:51] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: i pasted the result in paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3451 but i dont know how to show that paste here
[06:51] <grgcsmc> im installing it
[06:51] <vlad> brenner so how do you use alien
[06:51] <softaajaaaaa> does any one has game called wolfenstein enemy territory?, why i can't download it?
[06:51] <ponk> I'm not even sure I need to compile the damn files... :-/
[06:51] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : you show it by telling me the url - like tyou just did...
[06:51] <grgcsmc> when im done, how do i get sudo out of root?
[06:52] <Bonzodog> ponk: you don't
[06:52] <brenner> vlad: open a terminal and type: 'alien <filename.rpm>'
[06:52] <Bonzodog> the .deb is pre-compiled
[06:52] <brenner> (may need sudo)
[06:52] <vlad> brenner thats it ?
[06:52] <Avinoam> Seveas, it didn't work and now i can't boot ubuntu or windows
[06:52] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: well, there is the result, couldn't find package
[06:52] <Bonzodog> you just need to install it
[06:52] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : (except it's better if you copy the whole address - http:// and all - then I canjust click it)
[06:52] <vlad> brenner ez pz ?!?
[06:52] <brenner> vlad: yes...NB that you should generally avoid using them
[06:52] <vlad> brenner why's that
[06:52] <guzu> hello all
[06:52] <vlad> brenner they might be dirty ?
[06:52] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3451 :)
[06:52] <ponk> ok, I have another question...
[06:52] <guzu> can be azureus installed on ubuntu?
[06:52] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : you need to add the multiverse repo.
[06:52] <vlad> yup
[06:52] <dooglus> !repositories
[06:52] <ubotu> methinks sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[06:52] <Mattias> guzu, yes
[06:53] <ponk> is there a default root password?????
[06:53] <bsharitt> I just installed Ubunut again, and the last time I had made some changes to the xorg.conf file to make DRI render faster. Does any one know what these options might have been?
[06:53] <Jedrick> is there any other p2p software in linux rather than bittorrnet
[06:53] <Bonzodog> no
[06:53] <brenner> vlad: they're generally made for other distros.. getting stuff from the repo or even compiling source is better
[06:53] <dooglus> ponk, no.  use "sudo" and your password
[06:53] <Mattias> guzu, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75272
[06:53] <guzu> thanx Mattias , is there a repo somewhere?
[06:53] <guzu> thnx
[06:53] <Bonzodog> use sudo to get root access
[06:53] <vlad> brenner: sticking to the repo depot gotcha
[06:53] <Bonzodog> from a terminal
[06:53] <Mattias> guzu, just got it working myself
[06:53] <ponk> I dont have a root password... kust my refular user password
[06:53] <hill0703> what can you do when Gnome freezes??  I had to restart my computer to get it working again.
[06:53] <Bonzodog> thats all you need
[06:53] <ponk> *just my regular
[06:53] <vlad> brenner how come the universe repos are disabled by default ?
[06:54] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: the only thing in my repo that says multiverse has a ie address, which i am told doesnt work, and also says 'backports' which i was told dont use
[06:54] <dooglus> Jedrick: nicotine allows you to get single mp3 files
[06:54] <thesilentkiller> i want to share a partition (read and write) between Ubuntu and Windows XP. I used qtparted to create a FAT32 partition. But it is not showing up, when I boot XP. Any clues?
[06:54] <vlad> brenner also, all the programs i have installed do they auto update through that thing or do i need to do something manually ?
[06:54] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : "sudo edit /etc/apt/sources.list" and put "multiverse" just after "main" 
[06:54] <Jedrick> dooglus:  what's that is that a site?.. or a like bittorrent
[06:55] <dooglus> Jedrick: it's a package
[06:55] <pupil> dooglus, ever heard of etherboot ?
[06:55] <vlad> General Question, the Bit torrent client included in Ubuntu does it auto retry the tracker or does it just stop after it fails to connect
[06:55] <dooglus> Jedrick: it's a soulseek client
[06:55] <pupil> bur[n] er, ever heard of etherboot
[06:55] <aeon17x> thesilentkiller: This is just a wild guess, but I think it's because Windows (or Linux) doesn't assign a drive letter to that partition.
[06:55] <Jedrick> ok
[06:55] <brenner> vlad: users need to make their own choice on whether or not to use unsupported or non-free packages
[06:55] <Avinoam> Hey guys i have a big problem
[06:55] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/apt/sources.list" -- using "application/*"
[06:55] <dooglus> pupil: nope :)
[06:55] <Lupin[lvl] > Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
[06:55] <holden> Question: on breezy there's no sound icon on the tray bar
[06:55] <Lupin[lvl] > sorry paste :\
[06:55] <holden> and I don't know how to put it there.
[06:55] <aeon17x> Avinoam: go ahead.
[06:55] <brenner> vlad: and re: the update thing. probably yeah.
[06:55] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : I meant "gedit" not "eidt" sorry.
[06:55] <vlad> brenner non-free packages ? so i can click on stuff in the repo and it wants funds ?
[06:56] <aeon17x> holden: Right click the bar and add stuff to the panel.
[06:56] <brenner> vlad: fsf.org
[06:56] <vlad> brenner aiggght
[06:56] <Avinoam> I used knoppix to change swap from primary to logical, and fed fstab the new info- and now ubuntu doesn't boot
[06:56] <brenner> vlad: free as in freedom, not free as in beer
[06:56] <vlad> brenner do you know the answer to my bit torrent question ?
[06:56] <pupil> dooglus, its a floppy disk used to detect a network card.. then search for a dhcpd aqiure an ip then boot from the server.. I use it to setup a terminal server and a thin client
[06:56] <aeon17x> Avinoam: can you change it back?
[06:56] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: which main?
[06:56] <Mattias> gotta love cedega :)
[06:56] <brenner> vlad: no. :)
[06:57] <vlad> brenner alright
[06:57] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : you'll see 'main' in 3 places.  stick a 'multiverse' after each of them.
[06:57] <Avinoam> aeon17x, i don't want to.... i want it to be logical
[06:57] <vlad> brenner is it hard to make ubuntu not use DHCP i had my router ready and stuff
[06:57] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: i see it 10 places
[06:57] <aeon17x> Avinoam: well, apparently it doesn't want you to do that... =/
[06:57] <brenner> vlad: no clue about networking stuff...sorry. i'm still on dialup. that should tell you something. :)
[06:57] <pupil> vlad, you can use ifconfig
[06:57] <vlad> brenner dialup forever!
[06:58] <vlad> pupil ifconfig ?
[06:58] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: only two uncommented places where 'main' is
[06:58] <pupil> vlad, to set an ip address for  your inet
[06:58] <Avinoam> aeon17x, it killed windows too
[06:58] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : I have this: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3452
[06:58] <antisocialboris> anyone know any emulators for old consoles i can run with hoary?
[06:58] <vlad> pupil what's inet
[06:58] <pupil> vlad,  but you will have to ask dooglus how to set it there permanently, as I do not remember
[06:58] <Avinoam> aeon17x, is there something else to change besides for fstab? the error occurs in the beginning of the boot... some kind of memory issue (which i'm assuming is swap)
[06:58] <pupil> vlad,  your ip address
[06:59] <vlad> pupil i am in the network settings it seems i can just change dhcp stuff in there
[06:59] <derchilligephil> hey guys can anyone help me with webmin
[06:59] <pupil> vlad, then go nuts
[06:59] <derchilligephil> i dont get a login prompt
[06:59] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: i have this http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3453
[06:59] <arbeck> Can someone help me with gdesklets?  I'm trying to add the irc desklet and I get an error message saying "Could not find sensor irc"
[06:59] <helpme> fresh ubuntu install here.i reallyyyyyyyyyyy dont seem to like gnome!!
[06:59] <pupil> helpme, have you updated,. etc?
[06:59] <HiddenWolf> arbeck, gdesklets are crack.
[06:59] <derchilligephil> any webmin freaks here ? :)
[07:00] <pupil> helpme, type read /topic and follow update procedure
[07:00] <gobfrey> I need some help with a dependency issue
[07:00] <dooglus> antisocialboris: gnuboy-x, gsnes9x, nestra
[07:00] <pierro> hi. i've got a problem at reading video files (mpeg) with totem. i got "** Message: don't know how to handle video/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)1, systemstream=(boolean)false"
[07:00] <pupil> helpme,  I mean,. type /topic  read that and follow procedure
[07:00] <helpme> pupil, nope...not that im getting buggy behaviour...i mean gnome seems a lot less functional than kde....
[07:00] <pupil> helpme,  then you can apt-get whatever window mangager you want
[07:00] <arbeck> HiddenWolf: I know they are crack and I am addicted... actually the irc one seems pretty cool... if it would only work.  Saves me from having to load up xchat
[07:00] <helpme> konq is much better than nauilus
[07:01] <pupil> helpme, then install kde  apt-get install kubuntu
[07:01] <helpme> pupil, i know...thanx:)
[07:01] <Avinoam> Anything to do besides for reinstalling ubuntu?
[07:01] <HappyFool> kubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <HiddenWolf> arbeck, I've never had any desklet gotten to the piont of it being marginally useful
[07:01] <pupil> helpme,  but I'd update your system first
[07:01] <pupil> helpme, correction kubuntu-deskto
[07:01] <HolySavior> hi
[07:01] <HiddenWolf> Avinoam, what is the problem you are having?
[07:01] <pupil> helpme, kubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : wow that's a lot of comments.  I suggest you just copy mine
[07:02] <Avinoam> HiddenWolf, I changed swap from primary to logical partition using knoppix... changed the fstab... and now ubuntu won't boot
[07:02] <pupil> anyone use LTSP ?
[07:02] <Avinoam> HiddenWolf, and Windows won't boot either
[07:02] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: will i change the address to us or se from yours?
[07:02] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : replace cz. with us. if you like, but they're just different names for the same place anyway
[07:02] <helpme> Avinoam, mesing with partitions after install is bad idea.
[07:02] <caonex> Anybody here has fglrx installed?
[07:03] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : us., cz. and se. all resolve to the same 4 ip addresses.
[07:03] <HiddenWolf> Avinoam, farily old knoppix i presume?
[07:03] <brenner> package mirrors: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[07:03] <helpme> Avinoam, when i was a newbie i also did same thing once...and couldnt boot into either os.
[07:03] <Avinoam> HiddenWolf, brand new knoppix
[07:03] <Avinoam> helpme, so what do i do?
[07:03] <pupil> helpme, heh
[07:03] <brenner> actually, useless link for cz i guess
[07:04] <pupil> brenner, what about de   works for me
[07:04] <arbeck> HiddenWolf: the weather one is useful, at least to me
[07:04] <HappyFool> Avinoam: what's the error ? (don't paste here)
[07:04] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: then try again?
[07:04] <Avinoam> HappyFool, i'm not exactly sure...
[07:04] <dooglus> yup
[07:04] <HiddenWolf> Avinoam, it's probably best to pop in a windows cd, run fixmbr, then pop in an ubuntu livecd, chroot to your ubuntu install, and run grub-install
[07:04] <pierro> what's the name of the mpg codec package ?
[07:04] <slibs> how do i install java in breezy?
[07:04] <HiddenWolf> arbeck, we've got the panel applet for that.
[07:04] <Avinoam> HiddenWolf, you think it's a grub issue?
[07:04] <brenner> pupil: dunno, i use an australian one
[07:04] <slibs> do i have to use hoary repos to install java?
[07:04] <alekz> hi, anyone knows why i cant use my system fonts in aMSN ?
[07:04] <pupil> brenner, you in Northamerica?
[07:04] <Avinoam> HiddenWolf, Grub works, i think
[07:05] <HiddenWolf> Avinoam, knoppix messed up the partition data, so windows can't find itself, (it's fairly stupid) Hopefully fixmbr can fix windows.
[07:05] <helpme> Avinoam, it definitely is a grub issue...grub is trying to boot with ur previous record...so failing
[07:05] <HappyFool> Avinoam: I second HiddenWolf's suggestion. It would, however, be useful to know what (if any) error message you get
[07:05] <brenner> pupil: no. i thought my last statement made that obvious. :)
[07:05] <brenner> not to mention my host.
[07:05] <HiddenWolf> Avinoam, after that, you need a livecd to get to your ubuntu harddisk, and try to figure out if it's saveable.
[07:05] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3454 and more but it wouldnt fit in the paste...
[07:05] <pupil> brenner, you'd think that,. but ahh,. I'm using de and I'm in Northamerica
[07:05] <Aven> 'lo
[07:05] <brenner> pupil: oh. :)
[07:06] <Aven> I have MySQl and how do I find my database name?
[07:06] <helpme> where do i get debian menu? cant find it in repos!
[07:06] <pupil> brenner, ;)
[07:06] <arcanistherogue> helpme: do you have universe set up?
[07:06] <helpme> yup i guess so
[07:06] <Avinoam> HiddenWolf, ok, i'll do the fixmbr thing... and then I'll run grub-install on knoppix... does that sound good?
[07:06] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : you need to not use the old terminal from before you added the proxy line
[07:06] <HiddenWolf> Avinoam, no, please stay away from knoppix, only use it to chroot into your ubuntu disk, if at all possible.
[07:06] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : and you need to "apt-get update" after editing sources.list
[07:07] <HiddenWolf> Avinoam, this is the kind of problem that is hard to debug, so we'd need exact error messages, and even then it's guessing.
[07:07] <Avinoam> HiddenWolf, chrooting shouldn't be a problem
[07:07] <pupil> dooglus, brenner, bur[n] er, HiddenWolf, ok,. I need some help now., pretty please
[07:07] <Mattias> how do i have programs autostart with gnome?
[07:07] <vlad1> doh
[07:07] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : I don't know why you're installing gstreamer stuff anyway if you're going to use totem-xine.
[07:07] <Mattias> like firestarted and gmail notifier
[07:07] <HiddenWolf> pupil, what's up?
[07:07] <helpme> Avinoam, see the howto on reinstalling grub in ubuntuforums
[07:07] <Avinoam> HiddenWolf, I'm gonna reset the mbr and then come back here
[07:07] <HiddenWolf> Avinoam, good.
[07:07] <vlad1> Is there a command to see all your networking info in the terminal ?
[07:07] <aeon17x> Mattias: add them into the autostart section in System > Administration > Sessions.
[07:07] <helpme> Avinoam, good luck:)
[07:07] <Avinoam> HiddenWolf, it's a shame that you can't reinstall grub using the ubuntu installation CD
[07:07] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: all i want to do is have codecs working, im only following the links i was given
[07:08] <HiddenWolf> vlad, ifconfig
[07:08] <Avinoam> thanks
[07:08] <vlad1> thx
[07:08] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : ok.
[07:08] <Mattias> aeon17x, thx
[07:08] <helpme> Avinoam, u CAN.see the howto!
[07:08] <Aven> ok hi
[07:08] <pupil> HiddenWolf,  Strangest thing keeps happpening to me,. everytime my thin client logs in,.. my .ICEauthority file ownership changes to root.. whereby if I restart my window manger on terminal server, I can't login
[07:08] <Avinoam> helpme, i tried and wasn't successful once... but i'll come back
[07:08] <Aven> how do I find mysql database name?
[07:08] <HiddenWolf> Avinoam, we're revamping the system for the next release.
[07:08] <HiddenWolf> pupil, edubuntu?
[07:08] <Avinoam> HiddenWolf, i'm glad to hear
[07:08] <vlad1> HiddenWolf: if i set myself to a non DHCP ip is it going to keep the settings when i reboot ?
[07:08] <Avinoam> HiddenWolf, i'll be back in a few
[07:08] <pupil> HiddenFly, I'm using gdm,.
[07:08] <aeon17x> .ICEauthority seems to do that a lot of times, even in normal Ubuntu.
[07:08] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : looks to me like you didn't "sudo apt-get update"
[07:09] <HiddenFly> pupil: watch your hilights
[07:09] <thesilentkiller> aeon17x: you had said that i cant see my partition in windows cuz windows doesnt assign a drive letter. possible. any idea how to check for that?
[07:09] <HiddenWolf> vlad1, if you reconfigure dhcp
[07:09] <pupil> HiddenFly, lol,. woops
[07:09] <GlueGadget> Hi gurus, I want to have FreeBSD aside my ubuntu, what you suggest? First install ubuntu and then FreeBSD or first FreeBSD and then ubuntu, plz answer without being zeal :))
[07:09] <vlad1> Question, i just installed something from the universe repo, 3d chess and it says it finished but i have no clue where it is
[07:09] <alumno> how can i mount me partition ntfs ? what must i put ?
[07:09] <HiddenWolf> pupil, the resident thinclient expert is ogra, perhaps he's the best person to ask.
[07:09] <pupil> HiddenWolf, no., i'm not even sure what I'm using now,.
[07:09] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: i just did it and its working now, thanks, i guess ill follow the rest of this tut until its working or i have a problem again, even though the tut says its for warty and im using breezy, i dont know if that makes a difference
[07:09] <helpme> if i install kubuntu-desktop, will it be exactly the same as having kubuntu installed?
[07:09] <HiddenWolf> helpme, yes it will
[07:09] <dooglus> Lupin[lvl] : ok.
[07:10] <pupil> HiddenWolf, all I know is I am using gdm
[07:10] <thesilentkiller> alumno: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[07:10] <pupil> ogra, you around?
[07:10] <helpme> HiddenWolf, how do i get rid of ubuntu-gnome completely after that?
[07:10] <HiddenWolf> pupil, that's just the login. what you're experiencing is probably a setup error or bug on the ltsp system.
[07:11] <HiddenWolf> helpme, NOT recomended, but the easy way is to install and run debfoster from the command line.
[07:11] <Aven> how do I determine my mysql database name?
[07:11] <HiddenWolf> helpme, doublecheck what you're doing tho?
[07:11] <pupil> HiddenWolf, maybe,. I have go through logs in detail
[07:11] <dooglus> helpme: debfoster can do that for you
[07:11] <HiddenWolf> Aven, you have to make it yourself.
[07:11] <SamanthaGothLove> Hi sup guys kinda bored here anyone wanna chat?
[07:11] <Aven> what's the command?
[07:11] <HiddenWolf> SamanthaGothLove, #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:11] <aeon17x> thesilentkiller: have you tried using the ext2fsd driver?
[07:11] <ui> can someone show me his breezy repositories i lost mines :(
[07:11] <HiddenWolf> Aven, man mysql
[07:11] <alumno> thesilentkiller, thanks man
[07:11] <Aven> hw?
[07:12] <pupil> HiddenWolf,  What I would love to track is when the command is given to change ownership.. I mean, I know it could come from another script while loading
[07:12] <chelu> plz spanish chan?
[07:12] <dooglus> ui: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3452
[07:12] <vlad1> i just installed something from the repo and i have no idea where it went :(
[07:12] <helpme> how to use debfoster? im hearing 1st time.
[07:12] <vlad1> someone help
[07:12] <HiddenWolf> ui, deb archive.ubuntu.com/ breezy main restricted universe multiverse  - etc
[07:12] <runeh> Who do I have to talk to about problems with rbscrobbler?
[07:12] <HiddenWolf> chelu, #ubuntu-es
[07:12] <pupil> HiddenWolf, if I could determine the script thats doing it,. I'd be find I think
[07:12] <chelu> thx
[07:12] <helpme> vlad, install menu
[07:12] <dooglus> HiddenWolf: archive.ubuntu.com isn't working on 2 of its 4 ip addresses
[07:12] <vlad1> install menu ?
[07:12] <ui> thanks dooglus
[07:12] <HiddenWolf> runeh, file a bug, or try #ubuntu-motu
[07:12] <helpme> vlad, sudo apt-get install menu
[07:12] <oidia> I nead a partition to share filer ubuntu - windows???
[07:12] <vlad1> ohh
[07:12] <vlad1> k
[07:12] <runeh> HiddenWolf: Thanks. :)
[07:13] <HiddenWolf> dooglus, have you bugged a server admin already?
[07:13] <aeon17x> oidia: can you restate your question please?
[07:13] <dooglus> HiddenWolf: nope.  I don't know where they are
[07:13] <helpme> vlad, debian menu lists all apps..which may not appear in kde/gnome menus
[07:13] <oidia> i nead to create a partition to share FILES(sorry
[07:13] <oidia> windows & linux
[07:13] <HiddenWolf> helpme, apt-get install debfoster, then run it, it will ask you what you want to keep, keep kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-base, the kernel, and whatever else you need, delete the rest.
[07:14] <HiddenWolf> dooglus, all hang around in #ubuntu-devel
[07:14] <pupil> oidia,  you can use fdisk utility,. I think there is a gui app, ask HiddenWO
[07:14] <RockyBurt> hrm, no one knows of a ubuntu or debian nagios 2.0beta deb ?
[07:14] <wired_> Hi all
[07:15] <HiddenWolf> oidia, you're looking for gparted
[07:15] <helpme> HiddenWolf, i already deletd ubuntu-minimal...while removing ntpdate...on forums someone said its all right?
[07:15] <thesilentkiller> aeon17x: I guess ext2fsd is a read only driver? i am planning on having a shared data partition and use eclipse (java IDE) from ubuntu and XP
[07:15] <HiddenWolf> helpme, i'd not advice you to do it.
[07:15] <vlad1> i dont like that install menu thing the debian menu is fat and full :P
[07:15] <helpme> HiddenWolf, u mean remove gnome??
[07:15] <wired_> I have Toshiba Satellite A20 running Breezy, but when I try to restart computer, it just hangs. Did anyone experience this problem? Thanks.
[07:15] <HiddenWolf> helpme, it'll be ok up untill the piont where you upgrade and you get weird errors because packages get out of sync from the intended things.
[07:15] <oidia> HiddeWolf, gparted? is it installed?
[07:15] <aeon17x> thesilentkiller: you can also write into the partitions.
[07:15] <helpme> vlad, hehe..but its very useful:)
[07:15] <vlad1> so anytime i get something from the repo helpme then it will appear in the debian menu ?
[07:16] <vlad1> is there a way to move things around ?
[07:16] <Lupin[lvl] > dooglus: video is working, thanks for your help and sorry for all my trouble (^^; same for pupil
[07:16] <HiddenWolf> oidia, it's not by default, but it's in the repros, sudo apt-get install gparted
[07:16] <helpme> vlad, most probably yes
[07:16] <thesilentkiller> aeon17x: but shudnt a typical FAT32 file system do the trick?
[07:16] <HiddenWolf> helpme, you wanted to remove ubuntu in favor of kubuntu, yes?
[07:16] <oidia> HiddenWolf tnx
[07:16] <helpme> HiddenWolf, so u advise me not to remove gnome etc.?
[07:16] <thesilentkiller> aeon17x: it seems like i can access the drive from ubuntu (read and write). So I dont see why XP is not able to see it
[07:16] <Vlad> muahah
[07:16] <HiddenWolf> helpme, ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-base are the base systems on which ubuntu and kubuntu are both based.
[07:17] <brenner> how can i check what graphics cards the fglrx driver supports?
[07:17] <thesilentkiller> aeon17x: maybe its a matter of playing around some more. if it doesnt work out, i will try ext2fsd.....thanx
[07:17] <wired_> I have Toshiba Satellite A20 running Breezy, but when I try to restart computer, it just hangs. Did anyone experience this problem? Thanks.
[07:17] <aeon17x> brenner: look into the Hardware section of the Ubuntu Starter Guide, in the help files.
[07:17] <helpme> HiddenWolf, so what should i do now? reinstall ubuntu-minimal, install kubuntu....and leave gnome alone:)??
[07:17] <HiddenWolf> helpme, i'd suggest keeping ubuntu-minimal and -base installed, and disable ntpdate by editing the init script, and install kubuntu-desktop for kde, then remove ubuntu-desktop
[07:18] <marsh> :(
[07:18] <marsh> is there a way to 'fix' my permissions using apt-get (or similar)? - I changed some things i shouldn't have :(
[07:18] <Bicchi> I am trying to run this application and its giving me this error and i have CUPS allready installed: ./YamiPod: error while loading shared libraries: libcups.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:18] <HiddenWolf> helpme, remove ubuntu-desktop with debfoster, and it'll take away everything that kubuntu and the base system don't need.
[07:18] <HiddenWolf> marsh, be more specific.
[07:18] <brenner> aeon17x: yeah, that doesn't go into supported cards though, which is what i'm after
[07:18] <pupil> HiddenWolf, you know my problem with thin client,. should I ask that question in #ubuntu-devel ?
[07:19] <helpme> HiddenWolf, ubuntu-desktop is a very small package...i already removed ubuntu minimal....so i should reinstall it.....removing ubuntu-desktop only removes that single file..try urself
[07:19] <aeon17x> !fglrx
[07:19] <HiddenWolf> helpme, man debfoster
[07:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:19] <marsh> i changed the perms in my home folder (Recursivel;y) to 777... now I'm having error messages & problems logging in - but I seem to remember a 'fix' using ?apt?
[07:19] <HiddenWolf> pupil, try #edubuntu first
[07:19] <marsh> or was that just on redhat?
[07:20] <brenner> aeon17x: same thing. :)
[07:20] <HiddenWolf> marsh, what are the error messages? 777 shouldn't give any problems..
[07:20] <chelu> what dmask and fmask must I type for ntfs partitions? plz
[07:20] <brenner> aeon17x: actually....
[07:20] <sunshine82> does anyone know about xamtv
[07:20] <marsh> HiddenWolf, says that ~/.drmc should be owned by user & have 644...
[07:21] <HiddenWolf> helpme, apt-get install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop debfoster
[07:21] <marsh> HiddenWolf, changed it accordingly & got the sanme messages
[07:21] <HiddenWolf> helpme, sudo debfoster, then tick yes for everything except ubuntu-desktop
[07:22] <lsald> is kubuntu just ubuntu with KDE?
[07:22] <HiddenWolf> marsh, then you either missed something, or didn't apply to the right file/folder
[07:22] <HiddenWolf> lsald, yes it is
[07:22] <lsald> or are there more differences
[07:22] <marsh> so I want to reset the perms for all the .* folders that could cause probs (security etc ) before I start to stich myself up!
[07:22] <iapx8088> DarkFame, is now working
[07:22] <HiddenWolf> marsh, just chown -r home/user to user, then chmod 655 /home/user
[07:22] <wired_> I am experiencing strange problem in Breezy. When I try to restart my laptop (Satellite A20), it get's to the point where it says "umount: tmpfs busy" and then the system just hangs. I didn't have this problem in Hoary. I would really appreciate some help with this issue. Thanks
[07:22] <marsh> HiddenWolf, there wasn't much else - it's let me in now - but still gavce error message...
[07:23] <Lathiat> wired_: does "alt+sysrq+b" reboot your machine?
[07:23] <pupil> HiddenWolf, #ubuntu-devel seems pretty strict about what questions are asked,. I'm scared to ask
[07:23] <marsh> so I want to reset the perms for all the .* folders that could cause probs (security etc ) before I start to stich myself up, HiddenWolf
[07:23] <avinoam> No good... lol
[07:23] <Lathiat> wired_: (when 'locked' at that point)
[07:23] <Lathiat> wired_: also try changing consoles, alt+f1, alt+f2 etc
[07:23] <Lathiat> wired_: and capslock
[07:23] <iapx8088> nh
[07:23] <marsh> only ask because I remember it being a simple command, HiddenWolf
[07:23] <gteppel> I'm using E16 in Ubunutu and I downloaded the winter theme and copied it into /home/User/.enlightetment/themes which was previously empty of anythings, but when i restart E and try to choose the theme the only one that shows up is the brushed metal. What am I doing wrong?
[07:23] <HiddenWolf> pupil, try edubuntu first, there are more people there with ltsp experience.
[07:23] <avinoam> HiddenWolf, where's that howto for reinstalling grub?
[07:23] <pupil> HiddenWolf, I did
[07:24] <iapx8088> do you know the difference btw /etc/init.d/ifupdown and ifupdown-clean/
[07:24] <HiddenWolf> marsh, sorry, I'm not aware of such a command
[07:24] <marsh> HiddenWolf, but it may well be that it's not supported in ubuntu :(
[07:24] <Lathiat> iapx8088: ifupdown-clean cleans the states out on reboot
[07:24] <marsh> HiddenWolf, c'est la vie - thanks for yr time though, man...
[07:24] <antisocialboris> is there any way i can uncompress .zip files?
[07:24] <Lathiat> iapx8088: ifupdown keeps state of what interfaces are up and down
[07:24] <HiddenWolf> avinoam, sudu grub-install /dev/yourharddisk && sudo update-grub
[07:24] <Lathiat> iapx8088: obviously on reboot that doesnt apply anymore
[07:24] <aeon17x> antisocialboris: the Archive Manager does that.
[07:25] <avinoam> HiddenWolf, from where?
[07:25] <antisocialboris> ok
[07:25] <avinoam> HiddenWolf, i'm in knoppix
[07:25] <HiddenWolf> marsh, no problem, why don't you create a new user, and check/copy the permissions from that?
[07:25] <oidia> HiddenWolf: i have now created a fat32 partition but how whould a line in /etc/fstab to mount it look? or do i nead to formate it first?
[07:25] <airfinity> hi
[07:25] <hill0703_> Wine wouldn't run my msn virus.  I feel so left out.  All the people on my buddy list are running the virus but me..
[07:25] <avinoam> HiddenWolf, i can't get into ubuntu
[07:25] <airfinity> If i were to format a partition that contains the default /boot info, would i be stranded, or would i be booted to my old grub/lilo boot on another partition?
[07:25] <HiddenWolf> avinoam, define can't get?
[07:25] <zdennis> what is the page to upgrade hoary to breezy, I cant find it on ubuntu's site
[07:25] <avinoam> HiddenWolf, you want me to chroot in?
[07:25] <Lathiat> airfinity: youd be stranded, bad idea
[07:25] <iapx8088> Lathiat, I saw that i can solve my hibernate problem restarting networking on resume. I want to try a better approach with ifupdown...what am I to restart in this case, the ifupdown or -clean?
[07:25] <aeon17x> !tell zdennis about upgrade
[07:26] <wired_> Lathiat:  does "alt+sysrq+b" reboot your machine? Could you please explain that ?
[07:26] <HiddenWolf> avinoam, if you can, yes.
[07:26] <bam_> just rename every hoary to breezy in your sources.list file
[07:26] <Lathiat> wired_: when its frozen
[07:26] <zdennis> thanks aeho
[07:26] <airfinity> ic, is there a way to restore former grubs to default
[07:26] <marsh> HiddenWolf, not a bad plan, my freind... I'll give it a go ;)
[07:26] <Lathiat> wired_: hold alt and press "sysrq" (lab elled print scren as well)
[07:26] <Lathiat> wired_: then hit b
[07:26] <zdennis> thanks aeon17x
[07:26] <bam_> then apt-get dist-upgrade(i think...)
[07:26] <avinoam> HiddenWolf, what menu.lst will it use?
[07:26] <antisocialboris> how do i make the archive manager uncompress them?
[07:26] <Lathiat> wired_: sorry, hold alt+sysrq, press s at th esame time
[07:27] <HiddenWolf> avinoam, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:27] <aeon17x> antisocialboris: click on Extract
[07:27] <Lathiat> wired_: err, b
[07:27] <antisocialboris> ok
[07:27] <HiddenWolf> avinoam, which is generated by update-grub
[07:27] <wired_> Lathiat, :)
[07:27] <wired_> which one again, :) ok I'll try that
[07:27] <iapx8088> Lathiat, I would try to restart -clean, on resume.  Are you agree?
[07:27] <wired_> and if that doesn't work?
[07:27] <Lathiat> wired_: hold alt, press sysrq, then s :)
[07:27] <Lathiat> iapx8088: no
[07:27] <Lathiat> iapx8088: restart networking
[07:27] <hill0703_> this white terminal is hurting my eyes. any way to change it? or get a new terminal?
[07:27] <deathzuela> mr-petah
[07:27] <iapx8088> Lathiat, ok it's the way it's and it's working. Thanks
[07:28] <airfinity> its in options hill
[07:28] <Lathiat> iapx8088: your restarting ifupdown-clean?
[07:28] <HiddenWolf> hill0703_, check the file > new profile tab
[07:28] <oidia> /dev/hdb4       /               fat32   defaults	0       1 : is this a correct line to mount a fat 32 partition???
[07:28] <avinoam> HiddenWolf, i get permission denied
[07:28] <Lathiat> iapx8088: try restarting 'networking' instead if that doesnt work just use ifupdown-clean i guess
[07:28] <HiddenWolf> ubuntu, welcome, please change your nick.
[07:28] <HiddenWolf> avinoam, slightly more info would be handy. :)
[07:28] <iapx8088> Lathiat, presently I'm restarting networking and it works. Now I want to try something more complex
[07:28] <Lathiat> oidia: /dev/hdb4 /media/windows fat32 defaults 0 0
[07:28] <Lathiat> oidia: and mkdir /media/windows
[07:28] <Lathiat> iapx8088: no point trying something more complex
[07:28] <esac> im having a problem after i login, it takes 5-10 minutes before the desktop appears, any ideas ?
[07:29] <Lathiat> iapx8088: restarting networkign is exactly what you want to do
[07:29] <oidia> Lathiat: tnx
[07:29] <iapx8088> Lathiat, ok. It works :)
[07:29] <PatrikJohansson> can i install hoary packages in breezy ???
[07:29] <airfinity> Lathiat: is there to set an old grub to default on boot
[07:29] <Lathiat> iapx8088: restarting ifupdown-clean will just break things
[07:29] <avinoam> HiddenWolf, /dev/null: Permission denied
[07:29] <iapx8088> Lathiat, ok and thanks
[07:29] <Lathiat> airfinity: i guess you could
[07:29] <Lathiat> airfinity: why did you need to reformat your /boot ?
[07:29] <HiddenWolf> PatrikJohansson, you can't/shouldn't try
[07:29] <Lathiat> oidia: youll want to sudo mkdir /media/windows
[07:29] <Lathiat> oi	also you can make /media/windows anything
[07:29] <hill0703_> HiddenWolf: Much better.. thanks
[07:29] <Lathiat> oidia: e.g. /media/storage or whatever
[07:29] <airfinity> i want to wipe a linux partition
[07:29] <PatrikJohansson> hiddenwolf, ok thx
[07:29] <Lathiat> oidia: just make sure it matches /etc/fstab and the mkdir
[07:29] <HiddenWolf> avinoam, I'm out of my depth here, but I'd say you're messed up.
[07:29] <airfinity> but the boot is on it
[07:30] <aeon17x> esac: what extra programs do you have running at startup?
[07:30] <boabsta> hi guys, what repository do i need for installing sftp and ssh server?
[07:30] <thesilentkiller> Lathiat: I created a new FAT32 partition using qtparted. I can mount the partition in Ubuntu and read/write fine. But it doesnt show up in Windows XP (dual boot). Is there something I need to do there?
[07:30] <Lathiat> boabsta: just the defaults, install the openssh-server package
[07:30] <shinu> can ther be something like INSTALL_SUFFIX in a makefile? (as opposed to INSTALL_PREFIX)
[07:30] <pupil> HiddenWolf, If I remove gnome desktop will that remove gdm as well ?
[07:30] <esac> aeon17x: evolution and terminal (cant seem to stop evolution from coming up)
[07:30] <HiddenWolf> avinoam, perhaps seveas is the smarter man, but a reinstall is probably the best thing to do.
[07:30] <esac> aeon17x: ive always had those 2 come up, and it never did this
[07:30] <HiddenWolf> pupil, yes, but kubuntu installed kdm
[07:30] <Lathiat> esac: close *all* of your application
[07:30] <DianWei> Hey, is there a way to install grub to my real hard drive if I'm using the live cd; I screwed it up, so I'm hoping I can do an emergency fix from the live vd.
[07:30] <Lathiat> esac: then go system->logout
[07:30] <avinoam> HiddenWolf, maybe it's a read/write issue in knoppix
[07:30] <boabsta> thanks, what about ftp server?
[07:30] <Lathiat> esac: and click "save sesssion"
[07:30] <Lathiat> esac: then log back in, and it should fix that
[07:31] <avinoam> HiddenWolf, can't i use the installCD to reinstall grub
[07:31] <pupil> HiddenWolf, kdm does not work well with ltsp
[07:31] <HiddenWolf> pupil, and you can always reinstall gdm if you like it.
[07:31] <pupil> HiddenWolf,  I have tried
[07:31] <oidia> LAthiat: tnx going to reboot
[07:31] <iapx8088> I'm very happy with hoary and breezy
[07:31] <Lathiat> oidia: nps
[07:31] <iapx8088> It's just fine.
[07:31] <HiddenWolf> pupil, i have no experience with kde nor ltsp, sorry.
[07:31] <HiddenWolf> pupil, but try gnome
[07:31] <DianWei> Oh, would the install cd be able to reinstall grub?
[07:31] <pupil> HiddenWolf, using gnome right now,. well actually XFCE4
[07:31] <pupil> HiddenWolf,  but am using gdm
[07:32] <HiddenWolf> avinoam, might be possible to pass your root=/ etc variables to the cd boot prompt, in fact.
[07:32] <Lathiat> DianWei: Whats your situation?
[07:32] <scislac> Does Breezy have any type of "repair from CD" function?
[07:32] <Lathiat> DianWei: broken grub?
[07:32] <HiddenWolf> scislac, nothing so explicit, no.
[07:32] <mattt> damnnn, breezy looks kickass :)
[07:32] <HiddenWolf> pupil, yes?
[07:32] <Vlad> i <3 ubuntu
[07:32] <DianWei> Lathiat: I originally gave too much hard drive space to the /boot/ partition, so I wanted to shrink it a few 100 megabytes, but it broke.
[07:33] <boabsta> okay, what's the package name for ftp server?
[07:33] <PatrikJohansson> can you run wine programs from ntfs partitions??
[07:33] <avinoam> HiddenWolf, i have no idea how to do that
[07:33] <Lathiat> DianWei: oh
[07:33] <Lathiat> DianWei: so, what happened
[07:33] <Lathiat> DianWei: did it shrink, or?
[07:33] <aeon17x> PatrikJohansson: as long as they don't try to write anything on it.
[07:33] <DianWei> It shrunk, and deleted a lot of it.
[07:33] <HiddenWolf> Lathiat, his partition table isn't what ubuntu expects, so it messes up, would be my guess.
[07:33] <Lathiat> DianWei: have you customized yoru install much? it much simply be easier to reinstall if you dont have any files atm
[07:33] <Lathiat> HiddenWolf: nod
[07:34] <DianWei> Uhm... I just got everything working the way I wanted it... But if thats the best way.
[07:34] <Lathiat> DianWei: haha
[07:34] <PatrikJohansson> aoen17x: so i cant run ex: photoshop then.... damn :D so how do i do ?? fat32?? or can i install them on a linux partition through wine??
[07:34] <Lathiat> DianWei: ok hangon
[07:34] <hill0703_> can i browse the web from the terminal.  I could do it using links I think with another distro but Ubuntu doesn't have that
[07:34] <Lathiat> DianWei: i'll try fix it up for you then
[07:34] <Hmmmm> hi guys, i tried installign breezy on m yfriend's machine. but i got stuck with a 640x480@16bit resolution on the 845 chipset board
[07:34] <Lathiat> DianWei: *thinks*
[07:34] <scislac> arg... I (in a very dumb way) followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75378 and after "sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)" my wireless card is not detected... I've tried to apt-get install it, but unfortunately it needs to use the online repositories (which it can't). Anyone have any suggestion to fix this problem?
[07:34] <Hmmmm> anyone got a solution?
[07:34] <Lathiat> DianWei: can you explain exactly what you did in order
[07:34] <Lathiat> DianWei: preferably in a private message so i can keep track of what your saying
[07:34] <PatrikJohansson> aeon17x: so i cant run ex: photoshop then.... damn :D so how do i do ?? fat32?? or can i install them on a linux partition through wine??
[07:35] <aeon17x> PatrikJohansson: it never hurts to try.
[07:35] <avinoam> HiddenWolf, /sbin/grub-install: line 479: /dev/null: Permission denied
[07:35] <bored2k> how do i get the rules file of an mplayer package?
[07:35] <Lathiat> Hmmmm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:36] <Lathiat> avinoam: ouch
[07:36] <Hmmmm> Lathiat, you faced the same problem?
[07:36] <Lathiat> avinoam: how ar eyou booted into your system?
[07:36] <HiddenWolf> avinoam, pop in an ubuntu install cd, and instead of pressing enter try root=/dev/yourdisk/partition, but I must admit, i'm not up to speed on those options.
[07:36] <PatrikJohansson> aeon17x: but what surely works??
[07:36] <esac> same issue when logging out, i did it, and now its been sitting there for 2 minutes, nothing is clickable so i think it is still logging out
[07:36] <wired_> Lathiat, I tried that reboot advice, and it didn't work
[07:36] <Lathiat> Hmmmm: nope, just know that wiki page that helps :)
[07:36] <Lathiat> wired_: Sorry, which problem were you having? (its hard to keep track)
[07:36] <avinoam> HiddenWolf, I'll try that
[07:36] <Hmmmm> ah ok, Lathiat
[07:36] <Lathiat> wired_: oh, the freeze right?
[07:36] <Hmmmm> i'll check it out
[07:36] <wired_> yes
[07:36] <oidia> i have mounted a fat32 partition but i do not have permision to write to it?
[07:36] <sunshine82> how do i find out my password for su
[07:37] <esac> tell sunshine82 about root
[07:37] <oidia> sunshine82: same as default user?
[07:37] <wired_> the strange thing is that the problem never came up in Hoary
[07:37] <Lathiat> oidia: hangon
[07:37] <oidia> Lathiat: ok
[07:37] <PatrikJohansson> oidia, i think you need to specify read/write permission in fstab
[07:37] <gobfrey> how do I compile with an older version of GCC?
[07:38] <PatrikJohansson> oidia, perhaps lathiat has an answer for you
[07:38] <Lathiat> oidia: where it says 'default' in /etc/fstab
[07:38] <Lathiat> oidia: put default,uid=1000
[07:38] <esac> gobfrey: CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 make
[07:38] <oidia> Lathiat, tnx..
[07:38] <wired_> Lathiat, I noticed that Caps are off, when system hangs. I think it is a power issue, but don't know why
[07:39] <bored2k> how do i get the rules file of an mplayer package?
[07:39] <Lathiat> wired_: so when its hunt
[07:39] <Lathiat> wired_: hung
[07:39] <Lathiat> wired_: if you hit capslock, does it turn it on?
[07:39] <gobfrey> esac: how do I know if that worked?
[07:39] <Rydekull> I have a friend that is directly from the windows world, no experience with linux before. Is there a _good_ beginners guide to Ubuntu somewhere? That hopefully has stuff with the basics of Linux in general in it aswell?
[07:39] <Seveas> bored2k, apt-get source mplayer-$something
[07:39] <wired_> Lathiat, no
[07:39] <Lathiat> wired_: ok
[07:39] <Lathiat> wired_: and alt+sysrq+b didnt work?
[07:39] <bored2k> Seveas, thanks.
[07:39] <gobfrey> esac: I'm getting the same error, and from what I've read, the error is supposed to be because qemu doesn't compile with 4.0
[07:39] <HolySavior> hey, im intalling ubuntu hoary 5.04  on my laptop (HP)  and  i have a wireless network card  from Netgear and it  says"network autoconfig failed"
[07:39] <HolySavior> any help please
[07:40] <airfinity> does anyone know how i can restore a older grub or lilo
[07:40] <Hmmmm> Lathiat, I'll check out the issue first thing tomorrow
[07:40] <wired_> Lathiat, nope
[07:40] <Lathiat> wired_: thats a bit nasty, whats the make/model of the laptop?
[07:40] <Lathiat> Hmmmm: which issue sorry?
[07:40] <Hmmmm> can you help me with another issue?
[07:40] <Lathiat> airfinity: yes, explain your specific situation please
[07:40] <Lathiat> Hmmmm: shoot
[07:40] <wired_> Toshiba Satellite A20
[07:40] <Hmmmm> Lathiat, the resoltuion issue
[07:40] <Lathiat> Hmmmm: oh right
[07:40] <Hmmmm> i leave my breezy box turned on all night at the office
[07:40] <Lathiat> Hmmmm: no problems
[07:40] <Lathiat> Hmmmm: let me know how it turns out
[07:40] <Hmmmm> most mornigns when i return i find that it is hanging
[07:41] <Lathiat> Hmmmm: ah, interesting
[07:41] <Hmmmm> as in the numlock is stuck in green
[07:41] <spine55> does anyone know how to get xvid movies to view in breezy?
[07:41] <HolySavior> can anyone help me with a probkem i am having installing ubuntu 5.04 hoary
[07:41] <Lathiat> Hmmmm: are there any messages on the console?
[07:41] <Lathiat> Hmmmm: try hitting ctrl+alt+f1 before you leave
[07:41] <Lathiat> Hmmmm: and see if any come up, or check /var/log/syslgo
[07:41] <Hmmmm> nope nothing just blank
[07:41] <Hmmmm> ok i'll check that next time over
[07:41] <Rydekull> So there isnt any good beginners guide to ubuntu? :)
[07:42] <Seveas> Rydekull, system -> help
[07:42] <Seveas> or help.ubuntu.com
[07:42] <wired_> Lathiat, anything else in mind?
[07:42] <Lathiat> wired_: okhangon
[07:42] <Lathiat> wired_: so, this happens when rebooting?
[07:42] <sunshine82> oidia it say when i put my root passsword authericaatin failed sorry
[07:42] <nicoal> how would I set the ttl with iptables? is there a module that should be loaded aside from iptable_mangle? I try  iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -o eth1 -j TTL --ttl-set 128, but it gives me "iptables: No chain/target/match by that name"
[07:43] <wired_> Lathiat, yes
[07:43] <HiddenWolf> sunshine82, why are you using root at all?
[07:43] <Lathiat> nicoal: You are wanting to change the outgoign packet TTL?
[07:43] <Lathiat> nicoal: Why?
[07:43] <Lathiat> wired_: does it happen when shutting down?
[07:43] <wired_> Lathiat, halting goes ok
[07:43] <Shawe> hi
[07:43] <nicoal> Lathiat, yes... I don't want my ISP finding out I have 2 computers using the same connection
[07:43] <wired_> Lathiat, shutdown works fine
[07:43] <HiddenWolf> nicoal, 99% of them don't care about that. :)
[07:43] <Lathiat> nicoal: hrm, ooc how does that help that?
[07:44] <nicoal> Lathiat, they seem to think that 2 computers should mean 2 payments... hehe
[07:44] <Lathiat> nicoal: let me see if i can find out how for you
[07:44] <Lathiat> nicoal: haha
[07:44] <Lathiat> nicoal: have you considered using NAT ?
[07:44] <Lathiat> nicoal: if you do that, they shouldnt be able to tell
[07:44] <bishybish> hey
[07:44] <Shawe> anyone knows how to run a diferent runlevel of the kernel via grub?
[07:44] <bishybish> can anyone help me?
[07:44] <bishybish> is anyone here good at programming?
[07:44] <Lathiat> bishybish: probably a few, whats up?
[07:44] <Lathiat> Shawe: umm
[07:44] <Lathiat> Shawe: good question
[07:44] <Lathiat> Shawe: what runlevel are you trying to get to?
[07:45] <bishybish> i nned a program that can read simple images
[07:45] <Shawe> I have a script
[07:45] <Lathiat> bishybish: Explain more?
[07:45] <Lathiat> bishybish: a normal image viewer is no good?
[07:45] <bishybish> hmm
[07:45] <Shawe> that they "restore "
[07:45] <Lathiat> bishybish: e.g. eog (ubuntu) gwenview (kubuntu)
[07:45] <Shawe> that the "restore" another partition
[07:45] <nicoal> Lathiat, I think I do use nat... that's what `iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE` part, doesn't it?
[07:45] <bishybish> well, imagine a picute with a 6 and a 2 in it
[07:46] <Lathiat> nicoal: yes
[07:46] <Lathiat> nicoal: if doing that, in theory, they shouldnt be able to tell
[07:46] <Lathiat> nicoal: ooc, where did you get the TTL idea from?
[07:46] <stjepan> hello
[07:46] <bishybish> i need a program that can recognize the characters in the image and turn it into text
[07:46] <Lathiat> bishybish: oh
[07:46] <Shawe> Lathiat: do you know how I can do that?
[07:46] <Lathiat> bishybish: you want an OCR program
[07:46] <stjepan> what if I want to install something and there is no deb and no rpm?
[07:46] <Lathiat> Shawe: how to do what sorry
[07:46] <Seveas> stjepan, then you need to compile it :)
[07:46] <Lathiat> stjepan: you may have to compile it
[07:46] <stjepan> Seveas: that's hell
[07:47] <bishybish> yea i heard about those..
[07:47] <Lathiat> stjepan: unfortunely you need to sometimes
[07:47] <Shawe> I need to run a different runlevel from grub
[07:47] <stjepan> APT doesn't see software installed from source!
[07:47] <Lathiat> stjepan: try searching for a third party debian package
[07:47] <Lathiat> Shawe: oh right, sorry
[07:47] <Shawe> for run a script
[07:47] <Lathiat> Shawe: which runlevel do you want to get to?
[07:47] <Lathiat> Shawe: and why
[07:47] <bishybish> but i need to add it to another program
[07:47] <Seveas> stjepan, checkinstall...
[07:47] <Shawe> anyone that don't do nothing
[07:47] <nicoal> Lathiat, I was looking on this site http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/ trying to get a basis of where to start writing iptables stuff, and I saw the mangle business, and I thought it looked/sounded cool ;)
[07:47] <Lathiat> bishybish: there may be a library
[07:47] <wired_> Lathiat, reboot issue :) any other advice?
[07:47] <stjepan> Seveas: what?
[07:47] <Lathiat> Shawe: pardon?
[07:47] <bishybish> ok, another scenario:
[07:47] <Lathiat> wired_: umm
[07:48] <Shawe> a free runlevel
[07:48] <Lathiat> wired_: sorry
[07:48] <stjepan> Seveas: that's hell
[07:48] <Lathiat> nicoal: haha
[07:48] <Lathiat> nicoal: ok
[07:48] <Lathiat> nicoal: yeh NATting mkaes all connections appear to be from the same computer
[07:48] <Shawe> I adapt this for use the script
[07:48] <Lathiat> nicoal: so you should be fine
[07:48] <wired_> Lathiat, that's ok. thanks for your time anyway
[07:49] <Lathiat> wired_: its a weird one
[07:49] <Belutz> why i can't change the app icon in my panel?
[07:49] <Lathiat> wired_: hoary or breezy?
[07:49] <bishybish> thers this online game, right.. and you have to click links and do stuff in order to rank up.. however, there is an anti script check that requires u to fill in a number in order to click the link
[07:49] <nicoal> Lathiat, sweet, thanks for your help :)
[07:49] <Lathiat> nicoal: nps
[07:49] <wired_> Lathiat, breezy , hoary worked fine
[07:49] <Lathiat> wired_: hrm
[07:49] <Lathiat> wired_: upgraded?
[07:49] <wired_> Lathiat, yes successfully
[07:49] <bishybish> so i want a program that reads the image and puts the number
[07:49] <Lathiat> wired_: let me try see what happens after that
[07:49] <bishybish> hey, is anyone listening?
[07:50] <Lathiat> bishybish: This isnt really a programming channel
[07:50] <Lathiat> bishybish: sounds ot me you want to bypass one of those security image things tho ;)
[07:50] <Seveas> bishybish, google for OCR and you'll find out that you can't simply hack CAPTCHA sites...
[07:50] <wired_> Lathiat, ?? didn't get that. I have Breezy running
[07:50] <Seveas> this is highly off-topic in here so take it somewhere else
[07:50] <bishybish> lathiat, ur absolutely right ;)
[07:50] <Seveas> bishybish, we don't support such activities
[07:51] <bishybish> aaw cmon
[07:51] <Lathiat> bishybish: heh, go elsewhere thanks :)
[07:51] <bishybish> its not illegal
[07:51] <Topslakr> if i try to apt-get the kernel source it doesn't show the kernel I'm using in the list
[07:51] <Lathiat> bishybish: sure but its probably menacing whatever your trying to do :)
[07:51] <bishybish> lol
[07:51] <Lathiat> Topslakr: apt-cache search linux source
[07:51] <Lathiat> Topslakr: you probably want linux-source-2.6.12 if your on breezy
[07:51] <nicedreams> I keep getting this message when I try to login through GDM "Your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored."  What can I do to fix this?
[07:51] <Lathiat> Topslakr: what did you want the linux source for?
[07:51] <bishybish> but the admins of the game wont notice..
[07:51] <Shawe> anyone can say me what I need for execute a different runlevel that the default runlevel?
[07:51] <chucho> bishybish: this is not an easy task...
[07:51] <Lathiat> nicedreams: open a terminal, type 'ls -la ~/.dmrc' and paste
[07:52] <Topslakr> Lathiat i do want 2.6.12 but it's not in the list
[07:52] <chucho> bishybish: howerver, there has been quite a bit of research in the area
[07:52] <Seveas> nicedreams, chmod ag-w ~ ~/.dmrc
[07:52] <bishybish> was i kicked?
[07:52] <nicedreams> Lathiat: I've already tried setting the permissions of the files to 644, 777, and others and it still happens
[07:52] <bishybish> ..and?
[07:52] <chucho> bishbish: several of the easy versions have been cracked
[07:52] <Seveas> yes, stop talking about illegal activities bishybish
[07:52] <chucho> bishybish: sorry, cracked is a stupid work, statistically beaten
[07:52] <bishybish> its not illegal, damit :)
[07:52] <Seveas> chucho, you too
[07:52] <Topslakr> Lathiat - the list it gives me with apt-get shows 2.6.11 and 2.6.10 not 12 though
[07:52] <chucho> bishybish: look up captcha and you will find scientific literature on the point
[07:53] <bishybish> its just for an online game..
[07:53] <Lathiat> Topslakr: what ubuntu version?
[07:53] <chucho> seveas: sorry, I do vision research, and it is an area I am interested in
[07:53] <Topslakr> breezy
[07:53] <Lathiat> nicedreams: run the ls-la
[07:53] <nicedreams> Lathiat: I even deleted it to see what would happen and I get the same message
[07:53] <Lathiat> nicedreams: ah
[07:53] <Lathiat> nicedreams: try 600
[07:53] <Lathiat> nicedreams: mm, weird
[07:53] <oris_wolfbane> hey guys, im trying to slim down my system what programs can i safely remove
[07:53] <Seveas> oris_wolfbane, the gui
[07:53] <oris_wolfbane> ok, apart from that :P
[07:54] <corincole> could someone explain the differences and advantages/disadvantages between ubuntu and gentoo? :)   (pm if possilbe)
[07:54] <Seveas> not so much....
[07:54] <PatrikJohansson> when i try to install photoshop CS2 through wine it says that "This Operating System is not supported by this installation", what does that mean, that wine emulates an too old version of windows??
[07:54] <bishybish> hey seveas..
[07:54] <nicedreams> Lathiat: I deleted the file now, so what now?  Should I just recreate the file?
[07:54] <bishybish> how are you?
[07:54] <Seveas> corincole, if you explain me the differences between aplles and pears
[07:54] <Lathiat> nicedreams: umm, so if you logout and back in
[07:54] <Lathiat> nicedreams: with the file deleted
[07:54] <Lathiat> nicedreams: you still get the error?
[07:54] <Seveas> it's both fruit, different flavour
[07:54] <nicedreams> Lathiat: yes
[07:54] <Lathiat> nicedreams: weird
[07:54] <nicedreams> Lathiat: on 2 of my users
[07:54] <corincole> seveas: can you outline a few differences?
[07:54] <Lathiat> do you know what .dmrc is for?
[07:54] <HolySavior> can anyone help me? my DHCP network  wont autoconfig on my laptop
[07:55] <Lathiat> hangon let me try find out
[07:55] <corincole> is one easier to use?
[07:55] <avinoam> Anyone got an idea to install grub besides for chrooting into my ubuntu environment? using knoppix
[07:55] <NoWhereMan> hi all
[07:55] <nicedreams> Lathiat: how can i get ubuntu to start up with fluxbox under my mythtv user then and bypass gdm?
[07:55] <corincole> does one have more software built in?
[07:55] <Seveas> corincole, source vs binary distribution sane vs insane policies....
[07:55] <bishybish> different shapes too, seveas
[07:55] <corincole> sane vs. insane?  meaning...?
[07:55] <Seveas> that gentoo devs don't mind breaking all gentoo systems
[07:55] <corincole> like microsoft?
[07:55] <nicedreams> lol
[07:55] <Seveas> no, that's linspire...
[07:55] <Lathiat> nicedreams: create a .xsession
[07:56] <NoWhereMan> I'm gonna install ubuntu on a laptop supporting up to 1024x768 only, but it looks like logon interface of ubuntu is like 1280x1024 (on my desk pc) what could happen on the laptop?
[07:56] <Seveas> gentoo is not THAT insane
[07:56] <corincole> lol
[07:56] <Lathiat> nicedreams: put in it "#!/bin/sh" and then on the second line whatever you need to run mythtv
[07:56] <Lathiat> nicedreams: and chmod +x ~/.xsession
[07:56] <corincole> so theres no particular reason for choosing either?
[07:56] <nicedreams> Lathiat: how do i get gdm to stop loading and auto login mythtv user for me
[07:56] <aeon17x> NoWhereMan: nothing, it'll fit snugly into your screen.
[07:56] <linux_addict__> guys has any one experienced that Debian are much more faster than ubuntu ?
[07:56] <Seveas> linux_addict__, no
[07:56] <Juhaz> NoWhereMan, the installer tries to detect whatever screen resolutions the display supports and uses the largest possible
[07:57] <corincole> because a couple of my friends keep pestering me to get gentoo, saying its much better...
[07:57] <Seveas> corincole, that's bullshit imao
[07:57] <Seveas> try and and you'll see wh
[07:57] <Seveas> y
[07:57] <NoWhereMan> good, then :)
[07:57] <NoWhereMan> thanx
[07:57] <linux_addict__> Seveas: but i've tried it on my laptop..... Debian are much more quicker
[07:57] <corincole> k seveas
[07:57] <nicedreams> Lathiat: I want it to run fluxbox and I have fluxbox auto load mythtv program       I want the mythtv user to auto login without gdm when I start the computer though iwth fluxbox
[07:57] <corincole> and whats the diff. between binary and source?
[07:57] <linux_addict__> Seveas: I've even asked some people tried my laptop with debian and ubuntu
[07:57] <nicedreams>  :)
[07:57] <HolySavior> Seveas : hi, can you help me, my laptop cant autoconfig my network.
[07:58] <bishybish> buy a new 1
[07:58] <Lathiat> nicedreams: ok so thats a 3-step process
[07:58] <Seveas> corincole, easy to use (binary) vs obsolete (source)
[07:58] <Lathiat> nicedreams: first create a .xsession
[07:58] <Lathiat> nicedreams: #!/bin/sh
[07:58] <nicedreams> k
[07:58] <Lathiat> nicedreams: exec fluxbox
[07:58] <corincole> and i assume that gentoo is source?
[07:58] <Lathiat> nicedreams: then run sudo gdmconfig
[07:58] <Lathiat> nicedreams: or its gdmsetup or gdm-config or something
[07:58] <Lathiat> nicedreams: set autologin
[07:58] <nerdy2> corincole, source code is the human readable instructions which get compiled into a form that the machine can read (the binary)
[07:58] <Lathiat> nicedreams: then set fluxbox to autostart mythtv
[07:58] <antisocialboris> how do i check which level is screwing up my connection to a site?
[07:58] <corincole> k
[07:58] <Lathiat> nicedreams: i never used fluxbox or any WM tho i just started mythtv directly, but it shoudl work fine with flux
[07:58] <B_166-ER-X> where should i go to get 'all W32 codecs' ?
[07:58] <nicedreams> Lathiat: sweet.  I'll try that.  thx alot
[07:59] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, marillat
[07:59] <nerdy2> corincole, as i understand it, gentoo is source [so there's that compiling step you have to do] 
[07:59] <bishybish> so u cant write a binary directly ?
[07:59] <Lathiat> B_166-ER-X: add "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main
[07:59] <igod> hi all
[07:59] <aeon17x> !tell B_166-ER-X about marrillat
[07:59] <lorenzod> corincole: It may be a good idea to try Gentoo for yourself..
[07:59] <occy> I'm using Ubuntu, and last night I did: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   I'm back in gnome and would like to remove all the KDE stuff.   How can I purge all the KDE stuff from my system?
[07:59] <Lathiat> B_166-ER-X: to /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:59] <Seveas> Lathiat, eww no
[07:59] <Lathiat> Seveas: no?
[07:59] <Seveas> better link to just the deb
[07:59] <aeon17x> oops
[07:59] <lorenzod> People always have loads of opinions.
[07:59] <Lathiat> hrm, works for me
[07:59] <PatrikJohansson> when i try to install photoshop CS2 through wine it says that "This Operating System is not supported by this installation", what does that mean, that wine emulates an too old version of windows??
[07:59] <Lathiat> Seveas: ah, true
[07:59] <bishybish> this guy said he knew binary..
[07:59] <OsirisX> hey people! My <END> and <HOME> keys are not working anymore! :( but I know the OS recognizes them because if i hold down either the carat stops blinking while I hold it down.
[07:59] <Seveas> other marillat stuff can break things
[07:59] <Lathiat> Seveas: eh ok
[07:59] <djtrip> got a quick ? for someone want to run ircd turn my box to irc server
[07:59] <Lathiat> Seveas: point taken :)
[07:59] <corincole> lorenzod, thats what Im thinking of, but aparently it takes a couple of days to install, and Im very lazy lol
[07:59] <bishybish> i doubt he did
[08:00] <Lathiat> B_166-ER-X: ignore me. :)
[08:00] <djtrip> what ircd should i sue for ubuntu
[08:00] <igod> anyone had use installer to configure RAID 1 ?
[08:00] <bishybish> isnt binary like 10010100101010010110000101001 ?
[08:00] <Seveas> bishybish, not entirely impossible, but quite unlikely
[08:00] <igod> software raid 1
[08:00] <nicoal> PatrikJohansson, wine emulates win98, iirc... and photoshop cs2 probably needs something NT based, like XP or 2000
[08:00] <lorenzod> corincole: I wouldn't say it takes days to install Gentoo.
[08:00] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[08:00] <Lathiat> corincole: heh yes gentoo takes for every to install ;)
[08:00] <PatrikJohansson> nicoal, any solution??
[08:00] <lorenzod> corincole: But then again, if you want to use KDE..
[08:00] <Lathiat> nicoal: wine can emulate later versions sish
[08:00] <Lathiat> no idea how well photoshop works
[08:00] <Lathiat> iirc crossover ran photoshop
[08:00] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, ping
[08:00] <corincole> KDE? is that the equivilent to gnome?
[08:01] <Seveas> kde is another dektop environment
[08:01] <lorenzod> corincole: yes.
[08:01] <Seveas> ubuntu has that too...
[08:01] <corincole> is it better than gnome?
[08:01] <OsirisX> anyone know what could cause my home and end keys to stop functioning?
[08:01] <Seveas> no
[08:01] <tmjb> how to build download package from debian dpkg -b ipw2200-source_1.0.3-1_all.deb? I know how to build rpm -ba file.spec but I am newbe to dpkg tnx
[08:01] <corincole> ubuntu has KDE?
[08:01] <Seveas> much worse
[08:01] <lorenzod> corincole: not better or worse. different.
[08:01] <PatrikJohansson> lathiat: how can it emulate newer versione, say xp??
[08:01] <HiddenWolf> corincole, kubuntu does
[08:01] <nicoal> PatrikJohansson, why not try gimp, or you can set the winver= part in the wine.cfg to winxp... also, check out frankscorner... he has pretty good instructions on getting apps running in wine, but idk if CS2 is on there
[08:01] <lorenzod> corincole: Try them both, and decide for yourself.
[08:02] <OsirisX> corincole: i'd like to mention gimpshop too. :)
[08:02] <bishybish> can u put 1 of those ms dos batch files into a delphi project?
[08:02] <corincole> kubuntu has kde, but ubuntu has gnome?
[08:02] <Lathiat> PatrikJohansson: it doesnt really but it implements some of the newer apis needed fo rsome projects
[08:02] <Lathiat> corincole: yes
[08:02] <PatrikJohansson> nicoal: i gave gimp a shot but turns out photoshop i far better
[08:02] <Lathiat> corincole: they are the same distribution, just a different 'flavour' and different cds, one that installs gnome, 1 kde (ubuntu, kubuntu)
[08:02] <corincole> is there no way to put kde on ubuntu?  (easier than installing a new partition, lol, and I dont want to erase my ubuntu!)
[08:02] <Seveas> bishybish, this is an Ubuntu support channel, please stop talking off-topic
[08:02] <lorenzod> corincole: they use the same repositories.
[08:03] <bishybish> wats ubuntu anyways?
[08:03] <occy> hmmm
[08:03] <lsald> you can install kde on ubuntu
[08:03] <aeon17x> !kubuntu
[08:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[08:03] <corincole> so is there any way to upgrade (or downgrade/grade) ubuntu to kde, downloading files from internet?
[08:04] <OsirisX> My <END> and <HOME> keys are not working anymore! :( but I know the OS recognizes them because if i hold down either the carat stops blinking while I hold it down.
[08:04] <lorenzod> corincole: yes.
[08:04] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas  i heard that we should not use Debian repos... but since its your word i should trust eh ? :)
[08:04] <lorenzod> corincole: use synaptic.
[08:04] <nicoal> PatrikJohansson, in the wine config, find the section that says [Version] , and set the part to "Windows" = "winxp"
[08:04] <corincole> lorenzod: how, and would I loose any settings, and could I then go back to gnome easily?
[08:04] <nicedreams> is ubuntu breezy really jacked up or is it just me
[08:04] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, w32codecs from marillat works
[08:04] <chimaera> hi.
[08:04] <Seveas> you can also ty cypherfunk.org (oslt)
[08:04] <occy> anyone know how to purge something via synaptic ?
[08:04] <lorenzod> corincole: Gnome would still be there.
[08:05] <Seveas> occy, 'mark for complete removal'
[08:05] <lorenzod> corincole: and you won't lose any settings.
[08:05] <bettong_BOFH> can i use this driver for my nvidia card? Operating System: Linux IA32
[08:05] <PatrikJohansson> nicoal: ok ill try that
[08:05] <bettong_BOFH> it's from the nvidia website
[08:05] <occy> Seveas, hmmm, sorry, I meant, via synaptic and command line
[08:05] <occy> heh
[08:05] <corincole> lorenzod: how would it work, if both KDE and GNOME are there?
[08:05] <chimaera> i have problems getting my scanner to  work, scanimage -L gives me the following: *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x1003d5e0 ***
[08:05] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: Don't use that
[08:05] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: open synaptic
[08:05] <bettong_BOFH> ok
[08:05] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: and install the 'nvidia-glx' package
[08:05] <occy> Seveas, trying to remove kubuntu-desktop
[08:05] <bettong_BOFH> yea i have that
[08:05] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: (its the official drivers, but packaged
[08:05] <Seveas> occy, try debfoster :)
[08:05] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: then run 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'
[08:05] <occy> Seveas, yessir
[08:05] <lorenzod> corincole: at the login screen you select the environment you want to use
[08:06] <corincole> ok
[08:06] <corincole> so how do I get kde?
[08:06] <bettong_BOFH> but my counterstrilke framerate is low
[08:06] <bettong_BOFH> it's odd
[08:06] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: then logout and hit "control-alt-backspace"
[08:06] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: erm, counter strike doesnt run on linux ?
[08:06] <bettong_BOFH> i have the drivers enabled already
[08:06] <aeon17x> !tell corincole about kubuntu
[08:06] <OsirisX> so is my problem rare, my end and home keys not working?
[08:06] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: using wine or something?
[08:06] <bettong_BOFH> um yes it does
[08:06] <Lathiat> OsirisX: weird, what kind of computer?
[08:06] <bettong_BOFH> point2play
[08:06] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: point2play?
[08:06] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: *looks*
[08:06] <bettong_BOFH> with little problem
[08:06] <corincole> aeon17x: thats not what im talking about lol
[08:06] <bettong_BOFH> it playes it well
[08:06] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: oh, your using winex/cedega
[08:06] <OsirisX> It just started doing it, its an athlon 64 3400+
[08:06] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: right
[08:06] <bettong_BOFH> cedega
[08:07] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: so did you riun 'nvidia-glx-config enable' ?
[08:07] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: after that
[08:07] <corincole> lorenzod?
[08:07] <PatrikJohansson> nicoal: my wine.inf says "[version] 
[08:07] <PatrikJohansson>    signature="$CHICAGO$""
[08:07] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: reboot
[08:07] <bettong_BOFH> i diden't have to
[08:07] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: ??
[08:07] <bettong_BOFH> i just installed the driver
[08:07] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: you do, if you want it to work
[08:07] <zax> hi. I have radeon 9200 and I installed a new drivers from ati.com and all of 3d graphics are moving very slow and in steps. how I have to do with this problem?
[08:07] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: so please opena  terminal and run 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'
[08:07] <bettong_BOFH> made the change in  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:07] <bettong_BOFH> and it ran fine after that
[08:07] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: oh, right
[08:07] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: nvidia-glx-config does that for you, but anyway
[08:07] <bettong_BOFH> the nvidia screen came right up and everything
[08:08] <bettong_BOFH> oh ok lol
[08:08] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: well if your FR is slow, thats a problem with cedega/CS, we cant help you with that
[08:08] <corincole> brb
[08:08] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: keep in mind it will be slower than say, windows
[08:08] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: because of the emulation stuff etc
[08:08] <bettong_BOFH> well i know some codes and in hoary it was much faster
[08:08] <bettong_BOFH> i was getting 200fps
[08:08] <bettong_BOFH> so i wonder if it something with breezy
[08:08] <bettong_BOFH> i have them both set up the exact same way
[08:09] <zax> and next problem. how to install other language in firefox? (I have to install Polish language :]  )
[08:10] <corincole> brb
[08:10] <oris_wolfbane> im about to install vmware player, any ubuntu related things i should know about?
[08:10] <Seveas> zax, system -> admin -> language selector (in an installed breezy system) or simply select polish in the installer
[08:10] <B_166-ER-X> !deb
[08:10] <ubotu> B_166-ER-X: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:10] <B_166-ER-X> damn.
[08:10] <lorenzod> corincole: sorry had to deal with something here.
[08:10] <Seveas> dpkg -i w32codecs*deb
[08:10] <B_166-ER-X> ;)
[08:10] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, ^--
[08:10] <lorenzod> corincole: could you repeat that?
[08:10] <B_166-ER-X> lol thx
[08:11] <PatrikJohansson> nicoal: my wine.inf says [version] 
[08:11] <PatrikJohansson>  signature="$CHICAGO$"
[08:11] <zax> oh very thx op :)
[08:12] <zax> anyone have installed kadu?
[08:13] <Topslakr> can anyone tell me what i need to do to build a kernel module? I have installed the kernel source, the linux headers, the build tools.. and still the make fails 'no rule to make target 'modules'' any ideas?
[08:13] <B_166-ER-X> on the deb fil dpkg ... theres nothing else to do ?
[08:13] <B_166-ER-X> file
[08:13] <occy> Seveas, interesting
[08:13] <B_166-ER-X> arr
[08:13] <occy> Seveas, that's kinda cool
[08:14] <antisocialboris> how can i get apt-get update to work?
[08:14] <B_166-ER-X> once the deb file is dpkg ...theres nothing else to do ?
[08:14] <nicedreams> does installing mythtv on ubuntu screw up ubuntu or something?  I apt-get mythtv and ever since it created the user, it doesn't show up in GDM and I've had other problems
[08:14] <occy> Seveas, tx
[08:14] <Seveas> yw
[08:14] <Lathiat> nicedreams: should be ok
[08:14] <Lathiat> nicedreams: what other problems?
[08:15] <occy> I'm going to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop now.   To make sure I didn't accidently remove anything
[08:15] <Lathiat> Topslakr: what module are you trying to build
[08:15] <occy> cool
[08:15] <Topslakr> bcraid
[08:15] <Phr0zenKore> err
[08:15] <Phr0zenKore> how do i get emacs?
[08:16] <occy> Seveas, one last question, how do I reconfigure and make gdm the default Display Manager?
[08:16] <B_166-ER-X> ok : Mozilla firefox error , Totem could not play 'fd://0'.   when trying to play a movie on a website... what,s the prob ? and solution ?
[08:16] <Seveas> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:16] <occy> Seveas, or will it take over since kdm has been removed?
[08:16] <Seveas> it should, but i'm not 100% sure
[08:16] <occy> got it ;)
[08:16] <occy> hehe
[08:16] <occy> that worked.
[08:16] <occy> let me see if all is clear.
[08:16] <occy> bbs
[08:16] <bettong_BOFH> Seveas,  you know anything about ircd?
[08:16] <Lathiat> B_166-ER-X: oops, sounds like the mozilla plugin is b0rked
[08:16] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: i do, whats up?
[08:16] <bettong_BOFH> a freind of mine wants to set it up
[08:16] <pax> like a kid in candy store :D
[08:16] <B_166-ER-X> ..
[08:16] <Phr0zenKore> wait, solved it.
[08:16] <nicedreams> Lathiat: like the profile doesn't seem to have the scripts copied over.  Like for example the shell looks like it's SH or something and the ls --color doesn't work like when you usually create a user.  I try to make 'mythtv' my default user, but it doesn't show the user in the gdmsetup.  I type in 'mythtv' and reboot the computer and it seems to bypass my .xsession script but logs me in. ...
[08:16] <nicedreams> ...This is getting frustrating.  It took me 2 weeks to get the mythtv program and mysql data base the way I want it and it's all weird
[08:16] <bettong_BOFH> can you help my freind djtrip set it up and get it running
[08:17] <Lathiat> nicedreams: was the mythtv user automatically created?
[08:17] <bettong_BOFH> he uses breezy and wants to do this for some sorta assginment
[08:17] <nicedreams> Lathiat: yes
[08:17] <nicedreams> Lathiat: I upgraded to breezy hoping that would help but made things worse probably
[08:18] <bettong_BOFH> Lathiat, if you could help him i would be greatfull
[08:18] <Lathiat> nicedreams: ok
[08:18] <Lathiat> nicedreams: thats why
[08:18] <Lathiat> nicedreams: its like a system user
[08:18] <Lathiat> nicedreams: hence, doesnt show up in gdm
[08:18] <bettong_BOFH> i just got his box setup with ubuntu today and my brain is tired
[08:18] <Lathiat> nicedreams: and no /etc/skel profile stuff
[08:18] <bettong_BOFH> ^_^
[08:18] <nicedreams> Lathiat: system user?
[08:18] <Lathiat> nicedreams: you should just be able to login to it anyway
[08:18] <vader1102> I am running Breezy, have an epson stylus 440, it installs great and says it has the right driver but all it will print is garbage please help
[08:19] <nicedreams> Lathiat: I can login to it like normal with my mythtv user but it goes weird after that?  Should I copy the /etc/skel dir to the mythtv user or will that make things worse?
[08:19] <Topslakr> so no one knows how to compile a kernel module? :(
[08:19] <D1> anyone try BMPX yet?
[08:19] <D1> it looks so cool
[08:19] <nicedreams> Topslakr: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+compile+kernel+module&btnG=Google+Search
[08:20] <Topslakr> nicedreams there is no help ther
[08:20] <nicedreams> That's how I figured it out
[08:20] <Lathiat> nicedreams: no, dont do that
[08:20] <Lathiat> nicedreams: hangon
[08:20] <nicedreams> Lathiat: k
[08:20] <Topslakr> I'm still getting errors. I'm missing some pkg but I don't know what
[08:20] <Bicchi> Anyone using an ipod and yamipod.
[08:20] <D1> yamipod??
[08:20] <D1> whats that
[08:20] <zax> what p2p programs can I download for my breezy (I have to get an easy to configure program)?
[08:20] <bettong_BOFH> use gtkpod
[08:20] <nicedreams> Topslakr: whish i could help you more, but google is the best i know for that
[08:21] <threeseas> hello
[08:21] <bettong_BOFH> it works better with the ipod
[08:21] <vader1102> anyone have that problem with the epson stylus color 440?
[08:21] <nicedreams> zax amule
[08:21] <D1> or banshee, although I dont know how it works.
[08:21] <zax> i will found a amule installer in google?
[08:21] <Bicchi> bettong_BOFH D1: i do not like gtkpod.
[08:21] <threeseas> is there a way to change screen resolution to something higher then what was selected when ubuntu was installed?
[08:21] <nicedreams> zax: apt-get amule
[08:22] <bettong_BOFH> oh ok
[08:22] <nicedreams> zax: it's the same as emule
[08:22] <zax> ok thx nicedreams
[08:22] <Bicchi> bettong_BOFH: but have you tried it?
[08:22] <D1> what is yamipod though?
[08:22] <bettong_BOFH> i don't know how to help you then
[08:22] <Lathiat> threeseas: is it set really low?
[08:22] <tmjb> how to build deb-source file tnx
[08:22] <Lathiat> threeseas: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:22] <bettong_BOFH> no i haven't yet
[08:22] <Bicchi> D1: http://www.yamipod.com/main/modules/home/
[08:22] <bettong_BOFH> cause i haven't herd of it till now
[08:22] <bettong_BOFH> lookin
[08:22] <Bicchi> bettong_BOFH: http://www.yamipod.com/main/modules/home/
[08:22] <threeseas> its set to 1024 x 768 but the card can do better and I'd like better
[08:23] <D1> oh, that looks nice.
[08:23] <Lathiat> threeseas: ok
[08:23] <_kutas_> Doe any one have problems installing 5.10 in dual boot configuration?
[08:23] <D1> wish I had an ipod
[08:23] <D1> all I have is a nomad. ;[
[08:23] <Lathiat> _kutas_: nope
[08:23] <threeseas> oh I see the link
[08:23] <bettong_BOFH> oh wow
[08:23] <D1> gnomad2 needs some HIG love.
[08:23] <Mattias> is there a good graphical cvs program?
[08:23] <Lathiat> _kutas_: if you having windows or any other linux installed, it will automatically be added to ubuntus boot list
[08:23] <vader1102> _kutas_, nope, do it all of the time
[08:23] <nicedreams> D1: Creative Zen Micro rocks over an IPOD IMHO
[08:23] <Lathiat> _kutas_: just make sure you dont use the 'erase entire disk' option :)
[08:23] <spritey> hi@all
[08:23] <bettong_BOFH> i have an ipod 3g 10 gig that uses linux
[08:23] <_kutas_> Well Installation gos ok. But I can't boot to windows after install
[08:24] <Lathiat> _kutas_: whats the error?
[08:24] <spritey> i just wondering where the USB Devices are mapped? I can't find /dev/ttyUSB*
[08:24] <D1> can you mount your ipod as an external HD?
[08:24] <_kutas_> Grub shows Windows as option
[08:24] <Lathiat> D1: yes
[08:24] <Bicchi> bettong_BOFH: the program seems cool, except you cannot create smart  playlist yet. but soom you will.
[08:24] <bettong_BOFH> wow this looks nice
[08:24] <D1> and drop songs in?
[08:24] <_kutas_> But if I select it it goes blise screen
[08:24] <Lathiat> D1: no
[08:24] <D1> oh
[08:24] <Lathiat> D1: you will need to use an ipod tool to put the songs in
[08:24] <Lathiat> D1: ipod has a special database of music
[08:24] <nicedreams> D1: that's why i like the creative zen, you can just drop your song in it
[08:24] <Lathiat> D1: if its not updated, it wont see the songs
[08:24] <Lathiat> nicedreams: thing is
[08:24] <Lathiat> nicedreams: when you have 40GB
[08:24] <Lathiat> nicedreams: its not practical not to have an index
[08:24] <D1> nicedreams: creative zen on linux you can't do that...
[08:24] <D1> or can you?
[08:24] <D1> I can't
[08:25] <occy> http://occy.net/inspiron7500 heh
[08:25] <tuuliki> hi, new user here, have question. How do i update my video codecs
[08:25] <nicedreams> D1: haven't tried in linux yet
[08:25] <D1> on windows you can.
[08:25] <Lathiat> D1: try 'gtkpod'
[08:25] <D1> for creative nomad?
[08:25] <Lathiat> D1: 'banshee' also supports ipod
[08:25] <occy> I've installed Ubuntu on this laptop before... but was able to fix things.
[08:25] <Lathiat> D1: banshee might be better actually
[08:25] <nicedreams> Lathiat: you think of a remedy for me yet?  :)
[08:25] <bettong_BOFH> Lathiat, hey man can you help my freind set up ircd?
[08:25] <occy> breezy is giving me some fits.
[08:25] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: no, google can
[08:25] <bettong_BOFH> ok
[08:25] <_kutas_> Lathiat - After install When I reboot I select windows XP in Grub menu and press enter. I see for a sec the XP boot window and than it BSOD
[08:25] <zax> but I read about some problems with amule
[08:25] <D1> I only know of two programs for nomad gnomad and neutrino
[08:25] <bettong_BOFH> is there docu for ubuntu anyware?
[08:25] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: i learnt from google, you can otoo ;)
[08:25] <Lathiat> _kutas_: sounds liek your windows is b0rked :\
[08:26] <Lathiat> _kutas_: was it buggered before install?
[08:26] <_kutas_> Nop
[08:26] <Lathiat> _kutas_: eek :\ thats weird
[08:26] <_kutas_> It boots fine after install
[08:26] <pax> umm how about simply amaroK for all your ipod needs
[08:26] <Lathiat> _kutas_: err, come again?
[08:26] <Lathiat> _kutas_: so it booted fine after install? but doesn twork now?
[08:26] <Lathiat> pax: yeh amarok is good to
[08:26] <nicedreams> _kutas_: what does the blue screen say?
[08:26] <benplaut> i've got a problem with Beagle... it doesn't seem to search my .DOC files, and they're supposed to be supported
[08:26] <bluefox83> _kutas_, you didn't use partition magic to repartition your drive to make room for ubuntu did you?
[08:26] <_kutas_> I just regosted my IBM Think pad T40 ith windows . And have left 10 Gb free space fr ubuntu
[08:26] <Maikeru> anyone in here use win4lin?
[08:27] <satafterh> hello all, what do i need to have installed to be able to run the command ./configure?
[08:27] <Lathiat> bettong_BOFH: by the look sof it, ubuntu sbeagle isnt compiled with .doc file support
[08:27] <Lathiat> err
[08:27] <Lathiat> benplaut:
[08:27] <Lathiat> benplaut: by the look sof it, ubuntu sbeagle isnt compiled with .doc file support
[08:27] <bluefox83> satafterh, nothing to run the command
[08:27] <Lathiat> satafterh: nothing
[08:27] <benplaut> Lathiat: recompile is in order?
[08:27] <mika_> moro
[08:27] <zax> can anyone write here any server adresses for amule?
[08:27] <Lathiat> benplaut: you could do
[08:27] <Lathiat> benplaut: you need libwv i think
[08:27] <bluefox83> satafterh, but in order for it to work correctly the package you are trying to configure might have some requirements
[08:27] <benplaut> k
[08:27] <benplaut> thanks
[08:27] <Lathiat> benplaut: fiddle at your own risk :)
[08:27] <nicedreams> zax, just use amule the same as emule
[08:28] <nicedreams> zax: it will auto update the server list
[08:28] <zax> ok
[08:28] <zax> i will use last time dc++ :)
[08:28] <_kutas_> I did not use the use partition magis. Hold down I just did reimaged the laptop with fresh Windws XP. Let me see if it boots ok by itself
[08:28] <bettong_BOFH> kk
[08:28] <satafterh> #bluefox83 - here is what i am getting afterrunning the ./configyre command - checking host system type... configure: error: can not guess host type; you must specify one
[08:28] <nicedreams> _kutas_: image might be your problem if you are dual booting with linux
[08:28] <Lathiat> zax: btw if you want to use DC++ (as in the file client)
[08:28] <Lathiat> zax: get 'linuxdcpp'
[08:28] <hosler> I need the sun java package. Can someone link me?
[08:28] <Lathiat> zax: is that what your trying to install?
[08:29] <zax> no
[08:29] <D1> do !javadeb
[08:29] <zax> amule can be but...
[08:29] <D1> I think
[08:29] <hosler> !javadeb
[08:29] <ubotu> hmm... javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[08:29] <_kutas_> Yap it boots fine with fresh windows XP. I just booted and logged in
[08:29] <Xenguy> !java
[08:29] <ubotu> [java]  to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[08:29] <bluefox83> satafterh, i dunno whats wrong with that O.o
[08:29] <zax> i have only 3 servers
[08:29] <benplaut> !beagle
[08:29] <ubotu> hmm... beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[08:29] <_kutas_> I can start instaling ubuntu again. and tell you the exect message
[08:29] <zax> and all was disconnected :/
[08:29] <Bieleke> hi guys
[08:29] <nicedreams> zax: I don't have amule installed at the moment, but look at the button on the top left of the server lists.  I think there is a place to auto update the server lists
[08:29] <Bieleke> seems there is something wrong with the connect to server module in the location menu
[08:30] <Bieleke> can't connect to my xbox
[08:30] <Bieleke> all is fine with gftp
[08:30] <Lathiat> Bieleke: did you select the FTP protocol?
[08:30] <zax> ok
[08:30] <zax> i got
[08:30] <nicedreams> Lathiat: should I coyp the /etc/skel over to my mythtv user?
[08:30] <zax> ok thz :)
[08:30] <Bieleke> Lathiat, yep, ftp with logon
[08:30] <Lathiat> nicedreams: no, is there a real need to
[08:30] <Lathiat> Bieleke: and ?
[08:30] <Bieleke> error can't show
[08:30] <Lathiat> Bieleke: weird, dunno
[08:30] <drayen> anyone else have all the icons go awol when they upgrade from horay to breezy? eveything now looks like a sheet of papper (even folders)... what gives?
[08:31] <Lathiat> nicedreams: i guess you could copy .bashrc if you wanted
[08:31] <_kutas_> I am booting from ubuntu cd. I have windows XP installed on 40 Gb and 10 gb free for ubuntu
[08:31] <Lathiat> nicedreams: sudo cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~mythtv
[08:31] <Lathiat> nicedreams: sudo chown mythtv.mythtv ~mythtv/.bashrc
[08:31] <threeseas> I noticed the ubuntu install did not aske me for a root password.... what is it?
[08:31] <Xenguy> !root
[08:31] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:31] <drayen> threeseas, use SUDO
[08:31] <Octane> does anyone else here not trust apt-get frontend clients and needs to use a command line just to make sure
[08:31] <redflames> Hi! I'm having trouble with my ubuntu-computer... I'm connected to the internet, but I cant seem to get up any webpages... (tried with firefox and opera) It's probably a deamon or something (Ok, I don't have any clue at all :P).. Help anyone?
[08:31] <nicedreams> Lathiat: well...i can't see 'mythtv' in the lists of users for the auto login and my shell says 'sh-3.00$'
[08:31] <drayen> threeseas, sudo su if you have to have a root account
[08:31] <Lathiat> nicedreams: you cant see it because its a system user
[08:32] <Lathiat> nicedreams: you might be able to just type the name in?
[08:32] <threeseas> thanks
[08:32] <zax> ok bye
[08:32] <drayen> Octane, yup me
[08:32] <Octane> drayen: :)
[08:33] <_kutas_> Guys I am @ the point when I am prumpted with Partitioning method
[08:34] <_kutas_> I am choosing "Use the largest continuous free space)
[08:34] <oris_wolfbane> whats the command to move everything from /a into /b?
[08:34] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: mv /a/* /b/*
[08:34] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: that wont copy . files tho
[08:34] <sazwerx> anyone ever install OOo v2.0?
[08:34] <nicedreams> Lathiat: that's what I'm saying, I type in 'mythtv' and reboot my machine, but it doesn't see my .xsession so it loads GNOME instead of FLUXBOX
[08:34] <oris_wolfbane> Lathiat, how do i make it install _everything_ ?
[08:35] <redflames> anyone? I would really like to use my ubuntu computer :-P
[08:35] <Lathiat> sazwerx: yes its installed by default on breezy, whats up?
[08:35] <Lathiat> nicedreams: did you chmod +x it?
[08:35] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: umm
[08:35] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: what are you trying to move?
[08:35] <prav33n> Hello all
[08:35] <_kutas_> Lathiat: Should I choose manual or auto partitioning
[08:35] <prav33n> Is there an apt repository for breezy backports?
[08:35] <nicedreams> Lathiat: yeap...  it has the right permissions.  I wonder why I always get wierd problems with ubuntu and not debian
[08:35] <oris_wolfbane> Lathiat, i have a /Music folder and i want to move it to a new partition
[08:35] <redflames> sazwerx; installed it with apt-get... At least i think so.. don't remember really
[08:36] <prav33n> I don't find them on the archive.ubuntu.com
[08:36] <sazwerx> Lathiat, i'm using hoary, and i just download the package from torrent. it contains many RPM files, what should i choose to install? all of them?
[08:36] <nicedreams> _kutas_: this is how you dual boot.    Use the WindowsXP CD and create ONE partition and leave the rest of the empty space alone that you want linux to use.  Then after you install WindowsXP, use the Ubuntu Install CD to partition the rest and then install Ubuntu like normal
[08:36] <Lathiat> sazwerx: Ah, rpms dont install on ubuntu genrally
[08:36] <Lathiat> sazwerx: what is the program?
[08:36] <gma> HappyFool, was bon1212 ever happy with the md5sum situation?
[08:36] <antisocialboris> why cant i stat my sources?
[08:36] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: if its music
[08:36] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: mv /Music/* /where/ should be fine
[08:36] <HappyFool> gma: i stopped paying attention
[08:36] <oris_wolfbane> thanxs
[08:37] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: that will only miss files beginnign with a '.'
[08:37] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: you can check with ls -la /Music after
[08:37] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: make sure nothign is left
[08:37] <gma> HappyFool, good plan
[08:37] <Atthar> hi
[08:37] <oris_wolfbane> Lathiat, thanxs
[08:37] <sazwerx> Lathiat, yup.. i should convert with alien, but i dont know which one should i install? all of them?
[08:37] <Mattias> help, when i run ./configure for a cvs source, i get an error about "configure: WARNING: X11 is required and could not be found!
[08:37] <Mattias> "
[08:38] <_kutas_> Lathiat: That is what I did. I have windows in installed and choosing "Use the largest continous free space" in ubuntu installer
[08:38] <Mattias> how can i fix this?
[08:38] <Atthar> why http://ir.ubuntuguide.org/ is not available?
[08:38] <Lathiat> Atthar: Where did you get that link from?
[08:38] <Lathiat> Atthar: www.ubuntuguide.org should work no?
[08:39] <drayen> anyone else have all the icons go awol when they upgrade from horay to breezy? eveything now looks like a sheet of papper (even folders)... what gives? is there a icons package i can download?
[08:39] <wolden> could anyone help me with me printer? i cant get my lexmark to work even though it gets detected all right and all
[08:39] <HappyFool> Mattias: you need to install x dev libs
[08:39] <_kutas_> Lathiat : It is formating the swap space and the / that I did auto created
[08:39] <Mattias> HappyFool, thx ill do that :)
[08:39] <HappyFool> Mattias: the x-window-system-dev package is probably what you want
[08:39] <Atthar> ubuntuguide.org is work good, but ir.ubuntuguide.org was a persian guide for ubuntu linux, it was available, but now it not work
[08:39] <seethru> Mattias: sudo apt-get install libx11-dev
[08:39] <oris_wolfbane> Lathiat, im getting the error: bash: /bin/mv: Argument list too long
[08:40] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: haha
[08:40] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: erm
[08:40] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: you could just mv /Music /path/to/wherever
[08:40] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: you probably want it in a folder anyway?
[08:40] <oris_wolfbane> lathiat yeah
[08:40] <zax> eh... I have a new problem :D
[08:41] <corincole> lorenzod: you still there?
[08:41] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: that will pickup the whole lot
[08:41] <corincole> :)
[08:41] <Lathiat> zax: haha, go on
[08:41] <oris_wolfbane> Lathiat, now i just need to wait forever for it to copy em
[08:41] <Mattias> btw. what does this mean. >> tmw: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.6' not found
[08:41] <zax> amule was connected but not downloading
[08:41] <Lathiat> oris_wolfbane: yep :)
[08:41] <zdennis> i am upgrading from breeezy to hoary and everything is complaining it can't find locale settings,
[08:41] <Mattias> a
[08:42] <Mattias> HappyFool, the x-system dev thing didnt help
[08:42] <pinucset> zdennis from breezy to hoary' Why???
[08:42] <zdennis> err..
[08:42] <zdennis> other way around
[08:42] <HappyFool> Mattias: what are you trying to compile?
[08:42] <zdennis> hoary to breezy
[08:42] <Mattias> HappyFool, quadra
[08:42] <Mattias> HappyFool, http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=7275
[08:43] <pinucset> zdennis ok ;)
[08:43] <zdennis> any ideas?
[08:43] <zax> what I have to do? :|
[08:43] <Mattias> HappyFool, and i never got The mana world to work either :/
[08:43] <pinucset> it is normal if dont found the locales, press next xD;)
[08:43] <HappyFool> Mattias: can you paste the more of the error on the pastebin /
[08:43] <Mattias> HappyFool, ubuntu does seem restricted
[08:43] <wolden> could anyone help me with me printer? i cant get my lexmark to work even though it gets detected all right and all
[08:43] <AlbertoP> hello
[08:43] <zdennis> pinucset, apt-get dist-upgrade stopped
[08:43] <Bieleke> 502 pasv is not implented
[08:43] <Mattias> HappyFool, kk. the configure one was only that line, ill show the tmw line. or better up. the forum thread cus im not alone with tmw thingy
[08:44] <zdennis> with error on libant, and libant stopped on error of Locale settings
[08:44] <Lathiat> Bieleke: are you trying to connect to the xbox?
[08:44] <Bieleke> when i use ftp://xbox@10.0.0.152:21
[08:44] <Lathiat> Bieleke: ah, right, that sucks
[08:44] <Bieleke> then it asks password
[08:44] <HappyFool> Mattias: tmw = 'the mana world' ?
[08:44] <Mattias> HappyFool, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77423
[08:44] <Bieleke> then the error
[08:44] <Mattias> HappyFool, yup
[08:44] <Lathiat> Bieleke: that means passive mode isnt supported by the xbox server
[08:44] <__2zzz> new release kick ass
[08:44] <Lathiat> Bieleke: that makes you a bit stuck :\
[08:44] <Bieleke> no way to fix ?
[08:44] <zdennis> now, it says when i try to rerun, "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:44] <zdennis> "
[08:45] <zax> amule displays many servers, i will connect with edonkey no.5, but when I downloading any file that file doesn't downloading... (soureces=2)
[08:45] <zdennis> but dpkg says that --configure is not understood
[08:45] <Bieleke> Lathiat, no config-file i can edit ?
[08:45] <Lathiat> Bieleke: no i dont think so
[08:45] <Lathiat> Bieleke: let me check
[08:46] <zdennis> anyone know how-to force apt-get upgrade to go again?'
[08:46] <nicedreams> when is breezy going final?
[08:46] <HiddenWolf> zdennis, depends on the error
[08:46] <Xenguy> zdennis: use 'sudo' , yes?
[08:46] <HiddenWolf> nicedreams, 2 weeks ago, by now
[08:46] <zdennis> anything i do with apt-get i get error, E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:46] <sazwerx> how can i make xmms able to play .wma file?
[08:46] <zdennis> but when i run dpkg --configure -a, it says '--configure is not understood'
[08:46] <Xenguy> zdennis: are you root?
[08:47] <HiddenWolf> zdennis, so run sudo dpgk --configure -a
[08:47] <nicedreams> Hidden, breezy is the final new release now?
[08:47] <HiddenWolf> nicedreams, yes
[08:47] <nicedreams> brezzy really sucks from what I'm noticing in the past week
[08:47] <HappyFool> Mattias: tried compiling tmw ?
[08:47] <zdennis> Xenguy, HiddenWolf .. my bad, thanks i wasn't running as sudo
[08:47] <zdennis> running with sudo
[08:47] <nicedreams> i thought it was still testing with all the problems i have
[08:47] <Xenguy> zdennis: the truth will out :-)
[08:48] <Mattias> HappyFool, yes. without luck
[08:48] <HiddenWolf> nicedreams, define sucks
[08:48] <Bieleke> nicedreams, did an upgrade ?
[08:48] <HiddenWolf> nicedreams, be constructive.
[08:48] <zdennis> heh, now it is instlling all of my locales
[08:48] <zdennis> lol
[08:48] <nicedreams> HiddenWolf: like packages missing and having this .dmrc error all the time with all of my users for starters
[08:48] <Mattias> HappyFool, Nalioth and one more tried to help me with that
[08:48] <Bieleke> nicedreams, or a fresh install ?
[08:48] <zdennis> be back in a few.... to check on upgrade
[08:48] <nicedreams> Bieleke: fresh install
[08:48] <HappyFool> Mattias: oh?
[08:48] <HappyFool> Mattias: hrm
[08:48] <Bieleke> no problems here
[08:48] <Mattias> HappyFool, it went so easly to install in gentoo :/
[08:48] <HappyFool> Mattias: well, i'll give quadra a quick try
[08:49] <HappyFool> Mattias: *shrug* i've had few problems with the stuff i've compiled
[08:49] <Mattias> HappyFool, nice. quadra would be nice to fix too
[08:49] <HiddenWolf> nicedreams, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-desktup && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get clean
[08:49] <nicedreams> Bieleke: maybe it's just me.  I'm thinking of going back to debian and never touching ubuntu again if I can't get these solved
[08:49] <nicedreams> HiddenWolf: yea...i've done all of those
[08:49] <HappyFool> Mattias: stand-by for my super-fast 4kB/s download
[08:49] <_kutas_> Lathiat : hat does the simily face and lightning bolt mean in partitioning section?
[08:49] <nicedreams> HiddenWolf: I haven't seen a package to upgrade in almost a week either
[08:49] <caonex> _iGadget_, you there?
[08:49] <HiddenWolf> nicedreams, make sure, just in case
[08:49] <Lathiat> _kutas_: no idea
[08:49] <Mattias> HappyFool, lol
[08:50] <HappyFool> Mattias: i'm downloading 1.1.8, not cvs
[08:50] <nicedreams> HiddenWolf: I'll do that all again for shits and giggles then to see if it helps
[08:50] <Bieleke> nicedreams, first do what hiddenworlf says
[08:50] <HiddenWolf> nicedreams, most problems come from -desktop missing.
[08:50] <Mattias> HappyFool, oh, that one got packages
[08:50] <_kutas_> Ok I am @ the point that it is asking me to install GRUB to MBR
[08:50] <Mattias> HappyFool, i need cvs, thats version 1.2.0
[08:50] <HappyFool> Mattias: why do you need cvs ? ;)
[08:50] <_kutas_> everytime I do this than indows does not boot anymore
[08:50] <Mattias> HappyFool, and cvs isnt broken, ive compiled it before, and they've stopped developing
[08:50] <seife> Does anybody knows how do i put the applications fonts to stand in Monochrome and the Desktop Ones stand in Better Shape?
[08:50] <Mattias> HappyFool, 1.1.8 doesnt have fullscreen support
[08:51] <HiddenWolf> _kutas_, do it, we can fix windows later
[08:51] <wpTony> Ok, I need some help...
[08:51] <Mattias> HappyFool, sucks to play tetris in a small window
[08:51] <HiddenWolf> _kutas_, is it on a different disk from ubuntu?
[08:51] <wpTony> my box is toast - I can't login
[08:51] <Mattias> HappyFool, and its a gravity tetris with multiplayer supprt :P so its uniqe
[08:51] <HiddenWolf> wpTony, define toast
[08:51] <nicedreams> HiddenWolf: I ran all of those and they just went through because they are installed alread
[08:51] <wpTony> hiddenwolf: may I private message you?
[08:51] <HiddenWolf> nicedreams, ok, so can you give me a specific error
[08:51] <wpTony> (kinda busy in here)
[08:52] <HiddenWolf> wpTony, give it a shot.
[08:52] <nicedreams> arg...  I hate being a good linux user and can use debian without a problem and have issues with ubuntu
[08:52] <nicedreams> I love Ubuntu Hoary
[08:52] <_kutas_> Lathiat: No Same disl Partition 1 is windows (prmary) Part #2 and 3 are ubuntu on the same physical disk
[08:52] <HiddenWolf> nicedreams, the specific error messages would be helpful
[08:52] <_kutas_> So should I write the GRUB to BR?
[08:52] <antisocialboris> i dont love hoary atm cos ive been having loads of problems with apt-get
[08:52] <HappyFool> Mattias: cvs module is ? just quadra ?
[08:53] <nicedreams> HiddenWolf: My new problem is that I copied the /etc/skel/.bashrc /home/mythtv/  and changed the owner/group/permissions and logout and login and it doesn't seem to see the .bashrc and i'm still stuck with this SH shell
[08:53] <_kutas_> I will not loose any data becouse the windos is fres install also
[08:53] <Mattias> HappyFool, yup
[08:53] <seife> Does anybody knows how do i put the applications fonts to stand in Monochrome and the Desktop Ones stand in Better Shape?
[08:53] <Atthar> admin, can i use Ubuntu as a web server?
[08:53] <HappyFool> Mattias: ok, as i said before, standby
[08:53] <__2> atthar yes
[08:53] <zdennis> Atthar, yes you can
[08:54] <HiddenWolf> nicedreams, create a new user, and copy it's bashrc to your current user, back up the old one, and merge in the changes when you need.
[08:54] <Mattias> HappyFool, hehe, did u read about the news on transgaming, their new software for both windows and linux? http://www.transgaming.com/swiftshader.php
[08:54] <_kutas_> Lathiat: First stage of installation complete. Bebooting
[08:54] <Atthar> thank you
[08:54] <HappyFool> Mattias: saw it on /.
[08:54] <Mattias> HappyFool, making directx programs run 50 times faster, or games
[08:54] <Mattias> HappyFool, its nice :D
[08:54] <__2> Mattias only the shaders part
[08:54] <Mattias> __2, still nice :P
[08:55] <_kutas_> Lathiat : Should I boot to windows now of finish the installation
[08:55] <HappyFool> i thought that was only for non-accelerated cards? (this is also a little off-topic...)
[08:55] <Bieleke> i'm not the only one with xbox troubles, only gftp works\
[08:55] <Lathiat> _kutas_: no, boot to linux
[08:55] <_kutas_> Opps got another problem
[08:55] <Bieleke> just saw a mailing on the internet
[08:55] <_kutas_> I got this on screen after reboot
[08:55] <Lathiat> Bieleke: yeh
[08:55] <Lathiat> Bieleke: i know why it dosent work
[08:55] <Bieleke> people only flaming and telling shit, but no solutions
[08:55] <Lathiat> Bieleke: i dont think theres anything you can do about it unfortunely
[08:55] <_kutas_> GRUB Loading stage1.5
[08:55] <_kutas_> than I got this
[08:55] <Lathiat> Bieleke: just have to use gftp i guess :\
[08:55] <Bieleke> yeah i think so
[08:55] <_kutas_> GRUB loading, please wait...
[08:55] <_kutas_> Error 17
[08:56] <__2> kutas busted
[08:56] <Lathiat> _kutas_: oops :\
[08:56] <Lathiat> _kutas_: Are you doing a fresh install or?
[08:56] <hramrach> Hello
[08:56] <__2> kutas have you forget to make your root partition bootable?
[08:56] <zax> qtas polak :D
[08:56] <zax> siema
[08:56] <_kutas_> Yes I am using the feesh install
[08:56] <HappyFool> _kutas_: (fwiw)   17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[08:56] <Bieleke> but anyway, maybe i should create on the wike, telling people to use gftp for xbox
[08:56] <zax> kutas uzywasz amule?
[08:56] <hussam> does dazuko module build under breezy?
[08:56] <Bieleke> wike i mean
[08:56] <chasmarang> Hi there! How the heavens are ya?
[08:57] <Bieleke> wiki man :-)
[08:57] <seife> Does anybody knows how do i put the applications fonts to stand in Monochrome and the Desktop Ones stand in Better Shape?
[08:57] <_kutas_> First I did ghost fres Windows XP on the hard disk. Not trying to install ubunto onto the free spae
[08:57] <hramrach> I have installed the breezy kernel on a hoary system, and it broke. Is that expected?
[08:57] <Lathiat> hramrach: yes!
[08:57] <Lathiat> hramrach: dont do that!
[08:57] <chasmarang> anyone know the syntax for square root in c
[08:57] <HappyFool> hramrach: well, it's not especially surprising ;)
[08:57] <Lathiat> hramrach: it needs new userspace tools, only availabnle in breezy
[08:57] <_kutas_> I did not do manual partitioning
[08:57] <flodine> anyone know a good wireless card for breezy
[08:57] <HappyFool> chasmarang: 'y=sqrt(2.0);'  ?
[08:57] <HappyFool> chasmarang: also, try #c for c questions ;)
[08:58] <windex> chasmarang, 'man 3 sqrt'
[08:58] <Belutz> how come i can't change the shortcut icons on the panel?
[08:58] <flodine> anyone on a laptop
[08:58] <chasmarang> in gcc it says it doesn't know what sqrt is is there a header I'm supposed to use
[08:58] <hramrach> That's weird. I can normally replace the kernel in other systems without trouble.
[08:58] <_kutas_> going to put the Xindos XP ghost image back and try install ubuntu again
[08:58] <HappyFool> chasmarang: ask in #c
[08:58] <windex> chasmarang, 'man 3 sqrt' clearly says you need to include math.h.
[08:59] <chasmarang> hmmmm it has that
[08:59] <chasmarang> that's why I ask
[08:59] <hramrach> And if the ker
[08:59] <chasmarang> okay thanks
[08:59] <nicedreams> HiddenWolf: This is pissing me off really bad.  I did what you said and I even rebooted after that and I still have the SH shell for my mythtv user
[08:59] <hramrach> if the kernel requires new tools it should depend on them, shouldn't it?
[08:59] <windex> chasmarang, please install manpages-dev and glibc-doc to get manual pages for development, or as in #c. :P
[09:00] <nicedreams> HiddenWolf: and I put 'mythtv' as the user to auto load and it auto logins my ken user instead
[09:00] <chasmarang> thanks - but I thought what I did was what it is supposed to be - There must be something else wrong
[09:01] <HiddenWolf> nicedreams, I can't really judge what is going on from here.
[09:01] <hramrach> I installed the kernel with aptitude, not by manually copying it over or somesuch.
[09:01] <nicedreams> Thanks for the help by the way HiddenWorlf and Lathiat
[09:01] <nicedreams> is it just that when you install mythtv is screws up the system or something?
[09:02] <hramrach> what other parts do I need to use the new kernel then?
[09:02] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> Can someone in here help me with ubuntu?
[09:02] <HappyFool> hramrach: probably best to dist-upgrade to breezy if you want the new kernel
[09:02] <seife> Does anybody knows how do i put the applications fonts to stand in Monochrome and the Desktop Ones stand in Better Shape?
[09:03] <HappyFool> hramrach: alternatively, try to compile your own
[09:03] <starscalling> |NAUTICALSTAR| what do you need? :)
[09:03] <Seveas> |NAUTICALSTAR|, not until you say what you need help with
[09:03] <HappyFool> |NAUTICALSTAR|: ask away
[09:03] <duri> what is the best monospace font in Ubuntu ?
[09:03] <starscalling> hahaha
[09:03] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> Could someone tell me when i download something where it goes to? like in windows it's program files where do the files go to on ubuntu?
[09:03] <hramrach> That would not be much different from installing the new one from Breezy, would it?
[09:03] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[09:03] <shadeofgrey> whats shakin'?
[09:03] <starscalling> |NAUTICALSTAR| do you mean with your browser?
[09:04] <starscalling> with firefox for instance?
[09:04] <hramrach> I do not want to download all of breeze, it would take ages.
[09:04] <HappyFool> hramrach: *shrug* life will be much simpler ito dependencies. i don't think you're supposed to mix breezy and hoary packages
[09:04] <drayen> anyone else have all the icons go awol when they upgrade from horay to breezy? eveything now looks like a sheet of papper (even folders)... what gives? is there a icons package i can download?
[09:04] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> No for instance I downloaded xchat, where was it downloaded to, like windows it's program files
[09:04] <Seveas> |NAUTICALSTAR|, all over the place
[09:04] <shadeofgrey> anybody know if theres debs out for the newest version of openoffice?  id volunteer to do it myself - but in the words of Froto Baggins, "I do not know the way"
[09:04] <hcarty> duri: Depending on size, I always use Terminus for smaller fonts, and Bitstream Vera Sans Mono for larger fonts
[09:04] <starscalling> ok you said you downloaded it
[09:04] <starscalling> like
[09:04] <starscalling> apt-get install xchat ?
[09:04] <Seveas> |NAUTICALSTAR|, xchat is installed by default though -- what did you do?
[09:05] <starscalling> it goes all over if you compile something
[09:05] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> I don't know..i wen't to the website, n downloaded it..
[09:05] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> lol
[09:05] <HappyFool> firefox downloads to the desktop by default, i think
[09:05] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> yeah
[09:05] <hramrach> ok, I can keep the old kernel for some time
[09:05] <Seveas> |NAUTICALSTAR|, that's stupid
[09:05] <starscalling> in firefox go to edit >> preferences >> download
[09:05] <theblue_> Wee.
[09:05] <Seveas> |NAUTICALSTAR|, read the synaptic howto on wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:05] <starscalling> Seveas not really
[09:05] <hramrach> thanks
[09:05] <seife> Does anybody knows how do i put the applications fonts to stand in Monochrome and the Desktop Ones stand in Better Shape?
[09:05] <starscalling> 2.4.5 is nice :)
[09:05] <Seveas> in ubuntu you don't compile/install things manually
[09:06] <shadeofgrey> t hank god for that
[09:06] <starscalling> which reminds me i need to compile the new one :D
[09:06] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> So i'm havin a problem downloading java and it's sayin somethin about entering a root password..what is a root password?
[09:06] <hramrach> Seveas: except mplayer?
[09:06] <duri> hcarty: thanks!
[09:06] <starscalling> !tell |NAUTICALSTAR| about restricted formats
[09:06] <Seveas> |NAUTICALSTAR|, please read the synaptic howto
[09:06] <Seveas> and for hava read what ubitu just told you in private
[09:06] <lsald> anyone know why sound juicer takes so long to rip?
[09:06] <hcarty> duri: You're welcome!  Just my opinion of course :-)  But they work well for me
[09:06] <Seveas> hramrach, nonsense
[09:06] <lsald> i am stuck at approx. 2x
[09:06] <Seveas> mplayer is in the repositories too
[09:07] <nicedreams> Sorry to say, but after using Ubuntu and other Linux distro like a religeon for the past 4 years, screw linux as a desktop.  Nothing but one problem after another on the desktop side with any distro.  And it sucks that most of the good freeware GPL programs that are in linux are now ported to windows so what is the use of using linux when windows just owns because of manufacturing support. ...
[09:07] <nicedreams> ...I'm dropping out of my linux club too since everyone has issues with linux that can't help anyone solve anything either.  I'm not supporting it in my company anymore either until they make some standards and stop all this crap with having 100000 linux distros that are all configured a different way so it's a pain in the ass to use if you switch distros.    Good day all and thx for the...
[09:07] <nicedreams> ...help.  I appriciated it.
[09:07] <hramrach> Seveas: how do you get mplayer then?
[09:07] <Seveas> apt-get install mplayer-586
[09:07] <hramrach> ah, I missed it somehow then
[09:07] <zax> what programs for breezy can make slideshow (browsing images)?
[09:07] <hcarty> zax: gThumb, F-Spot
[09:07] <SEJeff> zax, I think gthumb can
[09:08] <pax> anyone got ipod nano to work with banshee, amaroK , gtkpod or any other prog?
[09:08] <shadeofgrey> nicedreams:  most of us here would rather suffer minor problems than submit to a life of servitude as Bill Gates weeknight bitch
[09:08] <Deimos|> hi all
[09:08] <antisocialboris> hmmm, i just wrote a  quick helloworld.py but cant save it in vi
[09:08] <Seveas> nicedreams, this is a support channel, if you come here just for complaning: just leave
[09:08] <SEJeff> antisocialboris, <ESC>:wq
[09:08] <zax> apt-get install gthumb?
[09:08] <hramrach> maybe it was not by the time I was trying to install it
[09:08] <antisocialboris> i did that, but got: "helloworld.py"
[09:08] <antisocialboris> "helloworld.py" E212: Can't open file for writing
[09:08] <lsald> is there something out there that can rip faster than sound juicer
[09:08] <nemik> yea nicedreams, tell all your complaints to mark and give some suggestions for improvement
[09:08] <hcarty> zax: It's usually installed by default (gThumb)
[09:08] <lsald> i am at 1.7x
[09:08] <_kutas_> l
[09:08] <lsald> 27 mins per cd
[09:08] <HappyFool> antisocialboris: what's your cwd ?
[09:09] <zax> but my gthumb cant this :/
[09:09] <zax> slideshow is disabled :|
[09:09] <HappyFool> antisocialboris: try  :w/home/antisocialboris/helloworld.py (or similar -- my vi isn't that strong)
[09:09] <nemik> has anyone ordered the OEM ubuntu CD's lately? do they come as 5.10 or hoary?
[09:09] <Seveas> nemik, 5.10
[09:09] <Seveas> hoary has no oem mode
[09:09] <zax> so I install f-spot
[09:09] <Seveas> f-spot > *
[09:09] <shadeofgrey> nicedreams:  if you cant make Ubuntu serve you well, Ubuntu isnt the problem...  If you'd like help, say so, I'll help you.  Im unthinkably handicapped and can only type with two fingers and I use ubuntu every day thousands of times better than I ever could with windows.  If a two fingered gimp can outclass you, its time to...  re-evaluate your execution
[09:10] <seife> Does anybody knows how do i put the applications fonts to stand in Monochrome and the Desktop Ones stand in Better Shape?
[09:10] <hcarty> Seveas: Though, honestly, I like the generic HTML output templates that come with gThumb more :-)
[09:10] <antisocialboris> d/w its cos i made the dir with root
[09:10] <antisocialboris> made a new one and im fine there
[09:11] <hcarty> seife: I think you can with the file ~/.fonts.conf, but I don't know the details
[09:11] <Seveas> hcarty, hmm, for that kind of things I use my own software :)
[09:11] <shadeofgrey> and on that note - i say again...  has anybody created debs for the new openoffice full 2.0 stable release?  If not how do i do so myself?
[09:11] <shadeofgrey> i assume theres a tutorial on the wiki somewhere?
[09:11] <hussam> anybody knows if dazuko module will build under breezy? I want to try it once I get home
[09:11] <hcarty> Seveas: Yep, a photo catalog script is definitely on the todo list
[09:11] <kevogod> Is "2005-09-23: 3 CDs (sent to shipping company)" good?
[09:11] <HappyFool> shadeofgrey: there's some info on building debs on the wiki
[09:11] <SEJeff> shadeofgrey: Debian packaging for a beast like OO.o isn't simple
[09:11] <HappyFool> shadeofgrey: it's rather lengthy though
[09:11] <seife> hcarty, where is that ~ folder?
[09:12] <Seveas> kevogod, yes
[09:12] <Seveas> it means your cd's are being shipped
[09:12] <HappyFool> shadeofgrey: can't you wait a little while? I heard they might be backported sometime
[09:12] <SEJeff> seife: ~ is an alias to /home/yourusername
[09:12] <hcarty> seife: Sorry for not being clearer on that
[09:12] <B_166-ER-X> i have installed the mozilla player plugin...but now instead of an error i just got 'no picture' in the movie window... any help ?
[09:12] <seife> ok
[09:13] <Magnus-swe> shadeofgrey: gray is way
[09:13] <shadeofgrey> happy_broccoli:  Sure, I could wait...  It'd be nice if somebody far more skilled than me took a crack at it though, because the full 2.0 stable fixes a few thousand rather large bugs
[09:13] <Magnus-swe> im liking gray
[09:13] <HappyFool> Mattias: download is finished (at last!)
[09:13] <HappyFool> oh, i need to build configure
[09:13] <shadeofgrey> happyfool...  even..  Heh..  the nickcompleter screwed up
[09:13] <Magnus-swe> hola HappyFool
[09:14] <B_166-ER-X>  2005-09-22: 15 CDs (sent to shipping company) , nice :)
[09:14] <tyler> Would anyone in here care to help me set up my touchpad on my laptop? I installed Breezy yesterday (first time I've used Ubuntu) and I'm trying to disable "tap-to-click" on my Dell 600m touchpad.
[09:14] <Magnus-swe> has anyone stumbled upon gbindns and have had the time test it yet ?
[09:14] <Pinaraf> hi
[09:14] <HappyFool> hrm, well, i think i'd rather be a fool than broccoli ;)
[09:15] <Seveas> roflol
[09:15] <hramrach> tyler: do you have tpconfig?
[09:15] <shadeofgrey> tyler:  System --> Preferences -->  Mouse
[09:15] <Pinaraf> I would like to know : how can I use the "old" init= flag to the kernel on breezy ?
[09:15] <Pinaraf> I get an error because the file I'm giving isn't found
[09:15] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> What is a command line?
[09:15] <Pinaraf> because of the initramfs
[09:15] <flodine> anyone install artwiz font on breezy
[09:15] <zax> how to make f-spot default graphics browser?
[09:16] <HappyFool> Mattias: more downloads (autoconf) *yay*
[09:16] <Mattias> HappyFool, lol, ye :P that program is a most :D
[09:16] <HappyFool> Pinaraf: i think ubuntu kernels need the initrd image
[09:17] <Pinaraf> HappyFool: yes, but how to use the init= flag then ?
[09:17] <HappyFool> Pinaraf: e.g., neither ext2 nor ide support are compiled in -- they're modules
[09:17] <Pinaraf> that used to work on hoary
[09:17] <HappyFool> Pinaraf: init=/sbin/init ?
[09:17] <Pinaraf> init=/usr/bin/python for instance
[09:17] <corincole> can someone tell me... is it possible to put ubuntu on a 5 year old PC, with 64mb ram, 20GB HDD....  its not reading the CD as a boot-up...
[09:17] <Pinaraf> (I know, that's special)
[09:17] <_kutas_> Lathiat: You still here
[09:17] <__2> do ubuntu have a package for either java or eclipse?
[09:17] <tyler> "System -> Preferences -> Mouse" has no settings related to touchpads. I installed tpconfig, but when I run it, it jsut says "Could not open PS/2 Port [/dev/psaux] ."
[09:17] <HappyFool> Pinaraf: do you have a custom kernel?
[09:17] <Magnus-swe> anyone got acc to a delegated dns and wants to try some new gtk+ app ?
[09:18] <HappyFool> Pinaraf: anyway, I successfully booted a custom kernel with init=/bin/dash earlier
[09:18] <Pinaraf> that doesn't work here
[09:18] <hramrach> tyler: tpconfig has to be run as root (ie sudo tcponfig)
[09:18] <Pinaraf> I would like to launch a python program instead of init for instance
[09:19] <HappyFool> Pinaraf: what's the error? "Use the init= parameter" or similar?
[09:19] <_kutas_> ho canI talk to to help me out why I am having trougle booting in dual boot mode?
[09:19] <Boronk> any smp-amd64 users here in?
[09:19] <shadeofgrey> nau:  cori:  youd be better off installing the caffeine free version...  the really scaled down version of ubuntu
[09:19] <Magnus-swe> Pinaraf: No, hell no.. you wouldnt dare :)
[09:19] <Magnus-swe> Pinaraf: and sacrifice 30-50 megabytes of ram ?
[09:19] <shadeofgrey> boronk:  yessir,
[09:19] <lorenzod> Pinaraf: I'd like to launch UAE instead of init.
[09:20] <Magnus-swe> Pinaraf: got gtk+ i need to test something...
[09:20] <Boronk> shadeofgrey: which kernel do you use? mine doesnt work with 2.6.12/breezy
[09:20] <Magnus-swe> hmm
[09:20] <tyler> Ok, if I run it as root, tpconfig says: "Found Synaptics Touchpad. Firmware: 8.96 (multiple-byte mode)."
[09:21] <shadeofgrey> Boronk:  I installed the AMD64 version of breezy without problems, but i did it the hardcore way -- i blew away my entire ubuntu partition and replaced it so there wouldnt be any conflicts
[09:21] <Pinaraf> HappyFool: the error is a kind of file not found
[09:21] <Pinaraf> I get a busybox shell
[09:21] <Pinaraf> from initramfs I suppose
[09:21] <HappyFool> i thought the initrd image wasn't working?
[09:21] <hramrach> tyler: that's what I get, and I had no luck disabling tapping.
[09:21] <Newbtastic> Hey, how hard is it to add a drive to a linux box post-install?
[09:21] <shadeofgrey> Boronk:  Also bear in mind that driver support for  the 64bit version...  is severly lacking.
[09:21] <apokryphos> shadeofgrey: that's the recommended way
[09:21] <sorush20> is there an animation creator for Linux?
[09:21] <hramrach> But maybe you got newer tpconfig
[09:21] <HappyFool> sorush20: blender
[09:21] <Pinaraf> HappyFool: I think you didn't understand me (or I wasn't clear enough)
[09:21] <Boronk> shadeofgrey: the problem is, that the smp kernel simply doesnt boot
[09:22] <hramrach> tyler: try tpconfig -x -t 0
[09:22] <shadeofgrey> Boronk:  I havent the slightest idea what to tell you other than search the wiki and google...  i found ALL my answers for ubuntu rthat way
[09:23] <HappyFool> Pinaraf: do you definitely need to run python *instead* of init ? can't you hack /etc/inittab and the other startup scripts to start your process instead?
[09:23] <Pinaraf> ho, it worked
[09:23] <Magnus-swe> Det gaar ju som sm00rt :)
[09:23] <Pinaraf> I don't understand
[09:23] <shadeofgrey> Boronk:  you should be able to find an old stable version without problems., maybe using an older version would fix your problem
[09:23] <Newbtastic> If I were to add a cd burner, would I just edit fstab to see it?
[09:23] <Pinaraf> I did perhaps a mistake
[09:23] <hramrach> And then try if tapping is still enabled
[09:23] <Pinaraf> it's working yet
[09:23] <HappyFool> Pinaraf: ah well, if it works, nm
[09:23] <Pinaraf> HappyFool: I think the current init is a piece of junk
[09:23] <Pinaraf> that needs to be moved to /dev/null
[09:23] <shadeofgrey> Newbtastic:  chances are, you wouldnt have to edit anything.  Ubuntu is awesome like that.
[09:23] <HappyFool> Pinaraf: it works *shrug*
[09:24] <tyler> hramrach - tried that, and it said "Corner taps disabled;           no tap gestures.", but tapping still works.
[09:24] <Newbtastic> shadeofgrey, It would just add it automatically?
[09:24] <Magnus-swe> Danny: who didnt... :)
[09:24] <Pinaraf> when I have to wait 1 minute between grub and kdm, I can't say it works
[09:24] <hramrach> tyler: then yours tpconfig is as broken as mine :(
[09:24] <shadeofgrey> Newbtastic:  yep.  youd have to go to System - Preferences - Disks to enable ands build a fresh partition on it... But basic setup should be automatic.
[09:25] <corincole> can I ask someone about WINE...  if you use it to run a virus .exe file, what happens?
[09:25] <hramrach> tyler: report it, maybe somebody will fix it :)
[09:25] <Pinaraf> corincole: it will damage your wine installation
[09:25] <wpTony> I  need help - chmodding isn't working for this one file of mine, which just happens to be a file which needs to be chmodded 644 in order for me to login...
[09:25] <Newbtastic> shadeofgrey, I was thnking more along the lines of a cd burner, but that means it will work automatically right?
[09:25] <shadeofgrey> Newbtastic:  Correction...  System - Administration - Disks
[09:25] <bobn> I have a question about ubuntu and LTSP.
[09:26] <corincole> pinaraf: could you then re-install wine? it wouldnt have permanent damage?
[09:26] <shadeofgrey> Newbtastic:  Id be seriously surprised and shocked if you dound it didnt
[09:26] <HappyFool> Mattias: part of the problem seems to be xf86vmode.h
[09:26] <shadeofgrey> Newbtastic:  Especiually on breezy
[09:26] <Pinaraf> corincole: you'd only have to reinstall your virtual windows driver
[09:26] <Mattias> HappyFool, how can i solve it?
[09:26] <Pinaraf> s/driver/drive
[09:26] <Newbtastic> shadeofgrey, I'm using hoary, but it will most likely be the same, right?
[09:26] <Pinaraf> which is in you home folder
[09:26] <Pinaraf> (in the hidden folder .wine)
[09:26] <bobn> When I log as the same user from diffferent clients, does each cleint see the same desktop, including the same open apps?
[09:26] <HappyFool> Mattias: look like one needs the x11proto-xf86vidmode-dev package
[09:26] <wpTony> I need help - chmodding isn't working for this one file of mine, which just happens to be a file which needs to be chmodded 644 in order for me to login...
[09:26] <Newbtastic> shadeofgrey, That's my other question: How would I upgrade to breezy?
[09:27] <Lathiat> wpTony: Hi there
[09:27] <mae> anyone having any trouble with sound-juicer retrieving cddb info from musicbrainz
[09:27] <mae> ?
[09:27] <Lathiat> wpTony: Whats the file called
[09:27] <Mattias> HappyFool, trying now
[09:27] <wpTony> Lathiat: it's the .dmrc file in my home dir
[09:27] <tyler> brb, rebooting with modified xorg.conf.
[09:27] <wpTony> Lathiat: may I private message you?
[09:27] <Lathiat> wpTony: sure
[09:27] <bobn> wow - busy channel
[09:27] <Lathiat> wpTony: eh, were you the person having trouble with .dmrc 15 minutes ago?
[09:27] <shadeofgrey> Newbtastic:  Uh... Well, no.  It may  be totally different in hoary...  I take too many painkillers a day to remember Hoary setup exactly.. I doubt the Disks applet thing in System - Administration is present in that exact form in hoary
[09:27] <bobn> that's a good thing
[09:27] <B_166-ER-X> when installing the Nvidia driver... ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[09:27] <B_166-ER-X>          installing.           ..now what ??
[09:28] <Mattias> HappyFool, i still get same error
[09:28] <HappyFool> Mattias: also libxpm-dev
[09:28] <Taken_By_Kristin> Hey everybody.
[09:28] <wpTony> Lathiat: yes, I was
[09:28] <Mattias> HappyFool, ah
[09:28] <HappyFool> Mattias: aargh, still not all
[09:28] <Mattias> HappyFool, lol
[09:28] <Taken_By_Kristin> My wireless internet connection just stop working one day.  Any ideas?
[09:28] <Taken_By_Kristin> *stopped
[09:28] <Mattias> HappyFool, ubuntu is a pain to compile stuff in
[09:28] <shadeofgrey> Newbas:  to upgrade, change your /etc/apt/sources.list file to reflect all Breezy repositories and then run "apt-get distro-upgrade" in a command shell
[09:28] <HappyFool> Mattias: *shrug* depends if you know the dependencies
[09:28] <Tomcat_> Mattias: I think exactly different :)
[09:28] <jason0_> CAn anyone suggest a pcimia card that works with ubuntu out of the box? I looked a the hardware compatability list, but it was somewhat cryptic.
[09:28] <shadeofgrey> i HIGHLY recommend you do that first
[09:29] <Tomcat_> Mattias: err... opposite
[09:29] <bobn> B_166-ER-X: need to be on console mode apparently.  do you know how to boot so that you come up that way?
[09:29] <threeseas> great now I have maximum monitor resolution and a few that don't work at the freq given :) but all is cool
[09:29] <shadeofgrey> if your broadband it'll probably take 2-3 hours
[09:29] <Taken_By_Kristin> Anybody free to help me really quick?
[09:29] <Mattias> Tomcat_, lol, i believe gentoo is the best platform for compiling and developing :)
[09:29] <Mattias> Tomcat_, ubuntu hasnt worked at all for me
[09:29] <HappyFool> Mattias: this configure looks a little screwy
[09:29] <HappyFool> Mattias: afaict, only the vga* related stuff is failing
[09:30] <HappyFool> Mattias: and i would guess that using X11 means you don't need vga-type headers
[09:30] <Mattias> HappyFool, strange, it has never failed in windows nor in gentoo and suse and mandrake
[09:30] <tyler> ok, I can't get anything that mentions synaptics to actually work.
[09:30] <threeseas> is there wireless software for linux/ubuntu ... as in a package accessable thru the "add applications" ?
[09:30] <B_166-ER-X> bobn , yes ; but i just saw (installed breezy yesterday)  that i cannot log in root in console only ... i didnt set up a root acount at install (didnt ask me)  thats weird..
[09:31] <B_166-ER-X> how do i log in root in console only ??
[09:31] <morale> has anyone got FreeNX working on ubuntu?
[09:31] <pybe> B_166-ER-X: use sudo
[09:32] <HappyFool> Mattias: oh, it's this: checking for XF86VidModeSwitchToMode in -lXxf86vm... no
[09:32] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, you log in as normal user and use sudo -i
[09:32] <bobn> B_166-ER-X: open up a normal window then try "sudo bash" and se iff you get a shell as root.  I don't have Ubuntu anymore so I can't trry it.
[09:32] <threeseas> B_166-ER-X: I used sudo and my password I set for my individual account
[09:32] <dylan_> how do i change splash screens through the Configuration Editor in Breezy?
[09:32] <B_166-ER-X> hm ok.. in hoary it was 'root:rootpassword'
[09:32] <pybe> !root
[09:32] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:33] <pybe> B_166-ER-X: read what ubotu said
[09:33] <B_166-ER-X> i know. but its new in breezy
[09:33] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, no
[09:33] <pybe> B_166-ER-X: ubuntu never had root enabled iirc
[09:33] <Seveas> Ubuntu never had an enabled root password by default
[09:33] <HappyFool> Mattias: at last, configure finished. install libxxf86vm-dev
[09:33] <__2> where I can add a path to PATH envvar for my user?
[09:33] <NanoBCN> hello guys. QUESTION: I've installed Enlightenment correctly, I think, now how do I choose to use it by default?
[09:34] <HappyFool> Mattias: running make now
[09:34] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> can someone help me with ubuntu please?
[09:34] <pybe> |NAUTICALSTAR|: try a more appropriate channel
[09:34] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> Like which one?
[09:34] <Seveas> pybe....
[09:34] <dylan_> how do i change splash screens with the configuration editor?
[09:34] <Seveas> |NAUTICALSTAR|, what do you need help with?
[09:34] <pybe> sorry feeling sarcastic
[09:34] <Mattias> HappyFool, wanna play quadra after this? ;D
[09:34] <Seveas> dylan_: To change the Ubuntu splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[09:34] <Mattias> HappyFool, :P
[09:34] <HappyFool> Mattias: over my super-fast connection ? ;)
[09:34] <duri> in KDE. is there a applet/whatever to minimize all the windows in the the desktop at once ?
[09:35] <Mattias> HappyFool, actually it works :)
[09:35] <bobn> |NAUTICALSTAR|: a more specific question would help.  This is the right place.
[09:35] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> I don't understand nothing with ubuntu, I don't know where to type in to change a location of something so i can install anything
[09:35] <B_166-ER-X> pybe, well mine has.    tellin ya.   i was using L: root  P: my root password
[09:35] <B_166-ER-X> but only in console
[09:35] <GreatBriton> need help with a specific step in installing my wifi card (pm me)
[09:35] <Mattias> HappyFool, try it ;D my quadra name is iiiiiiiiiiiiiih :P
[09:35] <Seveas> |NAUTICALSTAR|, as I sead, read the synaptic howto
[09:35] <pybe> B_166-ER-X: then you had set the root password at some point
[09:35] <NanoBCN> hello guys. QUESTION: I've installed Enlightenment correctly, I think, now how do I choose to use it by default?
[09:35] <Seveas> or go to the menu applications -> add applications
[09:35] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> I HAVEI don't know where to type the change of directory
[09:35] <B_166-ER-X> pybe, was on hoary apt-get upgrade to breezy.
[09:35] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> I have**
[09:35] <B_166-ER-X> now i'm on breezy cd install.
[09:35] <pybe> B_166-ER-X: just use sudo
[09:36] <Seveas> |NAUTICALSTAR|, you don't need a 'change of directory'
[09:36] <tyler> One more question: I have Suspend to RAM enabled, and it works fine if I select it from the logout menu. Is there a way to make the same thing happen when I close the screen on my laptop? (all it does right now is lock the screen and turn off the LCD)
[09:36] <HappyFool> Mattias: haven't launched it yet...
[09:36] <B_166-ER-X> but i really have to reboot to install the nvidia drivers ? its weird
[09:36] <hume> i got a problem accessing files on an ntfs-drive: non-ascii characters are display wrongly - anyone got any advice? ibelieved both win 2k and ubuntu used the same character coding....
[09:36] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> Thats what it said for java to type the file directory but i don't know where to do that
[09:36] <Mattias> HappyFool, im still installing
[09:36] <Mattias> HappyFool, btw, how do i use checkinstall?
[09:36] <Seveas> |NAUTICALSTAR|, for java you need something different indeed
[09:36] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> is it the terminal?
[09:36] <Seveas> |NAUTICALSTAR|, do you mind if I talk to you in private?
[09:36] <Mattias> HappyFool, think i got told to install it for simplicity
[09:36] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> What do you mean exactly?
[09:36] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> No
[09:37] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> Go ahead
[09:37] <HappyFool> Mattias: i don't know. I think you just run 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install', but i'm not sure. I usually install stuff in ~/usr
[09:37] <GreatBriton> bump: need help with a specific step in installing my wifi card (pm me)
[09:37] <Mattias> HappyFool, nice it worked
[09:37] <HappyFool> Mattias: it's not working for me (Error: Unable to find resource: anglais.txt)
[09:37] <HappyFool> anyway, if it works for you great ;)
[09:37] <zax> how to install Lexmark X75 drivers? I search in google but there isn't. (Can be lexmark x74 x75 or x76 drivers)
[09:38] <kbrooks> HappyFool: yes you run checkinstall
[09:38] <NanoBCN> mmm, no luck with my question :(
[09:38] <kbrooks> instead of "make install"
[09:38] <kbrooks> !tell HappyFool about checkinstall
[09:38] <HappyFool> kbrooks: ok, cool
[09:38] <GreatBriton> no, NanoBCN, me neither
[09:38] <HappyFool> i prefer to install in ~/usr anyway ;)
[09:38] <Mattias> HappyFool, ye, sometimes i get that error too, ive worked by it many times, let me check around some
[09:38] <kbrooks> HappyFool: i use ~/.local ;)
[09:39] <GreatBriton> NanoBCN and I have questions!
[09:39] <Mattias> HappyFool, somehow it works for me :P
[09:39] <Mattias> Happy try make install again
[09:39] <hume> anyone konws how to display filenames correctly (non-ascii characters) when mounting a ntfs drive in ubuntu?
[09:40] <HappyFool> Mattias: it's pretty clearly not copying any anglais.txt anywhere during 'make install'
[09:40] <Tomcat_> hume: Try the iocharset or utf8 options when mounting... don't know exactly how it works.
[09:40] <pybe> HappyFool: did you have any errors in ./configure or make?
[09:40] <Seveas> |NAUTICALSTAR|, i just forgot something
[09:40] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> yes?
[09:40] <Seveas> |NAUTICALSTAR|, you probably are not registered on freenode
[09:40] <threeseas> anyone know about wireless connections in ubuntu
[09:40] <Seveas> so i cannot receive your messages
[09:40] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> what is freenode?
[09:40] <HappyFool> pybe: err, i didn't really pay attention. this is mostly for mattias benefit ;)
[09:41] <kbrooks> |NAUTICALSTAR|: irc.freenode.net
[09:41] <HappyFool> so mission successful
[09:41] <threeseas> you are here
[09:41] <pybe> HappyFool: dont know the specifics anyway just a though
[09:41] <Seveas> |NAUTICALSTAR|, please repeat whatever you sebt to me in private message
[09:41] <Seveas> I can receive it now
[09:41] <Mattias> HappyFool, ill send u my deb package
[09:41] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> Okay
[09:41] <Mattias> HappyFool, maby it helps ;D
[09:41] <|NAUTICALSTAR|>  I don't mean to be rude, but i'm new to this just installed it today and I know absolutely nothing i'm surprised i got onto xchat
[09:41] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> |NAUTICALSTAR| Whatever one works with ubuntu
[09:41] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> |NAUTICALSTAR| If I could figure out How to download something using that terminal I could probably download more cause i'd know how to do it
[09:41] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> |NAUTICALSTAR| are you still there?
[09:42] <Seveas> I meant in private again, but ok :)
[09:42] <AlbertoP> where can I find a guide to install w32codecs?
[09:42] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> thats what i said
[09:42] <HappyFool> Mattias: apply the same logic to the other package (twm) -- run configure, and solve each error by trying to find the required -dev package. packages.ubuntu.com has a 'file search' utility which is very useful for this
[09:42] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> oh
[09:42] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> lol
[09:42] <bobn> |NAUTICALSTAR|: when you clicked the irc channle from ubuntu it put you into IRC irc.freenode.net is the name oif this IRC network.
[09:42] <HappyFool> Mattias: oops, i mean tmw
[09:42] <Mattias> HappyFool, the configure works for tmw, not the make tho
[09:42] <HappyFool> Mattias: ah
[09:42] <HappyFool> Mattias: well, i need a break ;)
[09:42] <Tomcat_> hume: I just tried to find out, but I can't seem to find any umlaut filenames on my NTFS :)
[09:42] <HappyFool> and any nalioth couldn't get that working
[09:42] <|NAUTICALSTAR|> i never clicked one i logged onto the server and it automatically brought me to this
[09:42] <HappyFool> anyway, even
[09:42] <Mattias> HappyFool, hehe ok :)
[09:42] <pybe> !w32codecs
[09:42] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[09:42] <Mattias> HappyFool, ill play some quadra ;D
[09:42] <Cxx> is there a Ubuntu Backports yet??
[09:42] <HappyFool> heh
[09:42] <HappyFool> have fun ;)
[09:42] <pybe> AlbertoP: read what ubotu said
[09:43] <kbrooks> Cxx: no
[09:43] <Cxx> oh
[09:43] <AlbertoP> pybe, thanks :)
[09:43] <bobn> Oh.
[09:43] <Cxx> i suppose there has to be a Dapper Drake for there to be a backports
[09:43] <hume> Tomcat_, ok....i just found the option in my man-page..:)...but it's not umlauts here, it is ,  and ....:)
[09:43] <Cxx> lol
[09:43] <mkyb14> anyone know how to get the nvidia drivers to work..... i have an old 16mb nvidia tnt card and the legacy and regular drivers didn't load the splash screen
[09:43] <Cxx> oh and my other question, does Mark Shuttleworth come on #ubuntu?
[09:44] <kbrooks> Cxx: dd is next release of ubuntu
[09:44] <Tomcat_> hume: Well,  and  are umlauts, right? :>
[09:44] <Cxx> probly as an alias ;p\
[09:44] <Tomcat_> hume: Anyway, I found some on my workstation... I'll try to find out
[09:44] <hume> Tomcat_, are they?...i didn't know...opops
[09:44] <Cxx> dd u mean dd - convert and copy a file
[09:44] <Cxx>  lol
[09:44] <kbrooks> Cxx: no
[09:44] <Blissex> mkyb14: that card may just be too old. Also consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4  on how to ask questions
[09:44] <kbrooks> "dapper drake"
[09:44] <Cxx> oh yeah
[09:44] <Cxx> lo
[09:45] <Cxx> im gonna test that when it comes out
[09:45] <mkyb14> it used to work on hoary wit hthe nvidia-glx ... now with breezy it doestn'
[09:45] <Cxx> i tested all through breezy
[09:45] <kbrooks> uh
[09:45] <sproingie> wikipedia's got a great article on the "Heavy Metal Umlaut"
[09:45] <Cxx> bout time u guys get azureus and JRE on ubuntu
[09:45] <kbrooks> Cxx: any bugs u reported
[09:45] <GreatBriton> in the wiki tutorial for installing my wifi card on breezy, it says install gcc 3.4
[09:45] <Cxx> lol a few
[09:45] <Cxx> not as this name :)
[09:45] <GreatBriton> how can i without a net connection?
[09:45] <kbrooks> Cxx: oh cool
[09:46] <kbrooks> Cxx: do u like c++ ? :)
[09:46] <zenfoo> anybody now how can i reconfigure my network in dialogue console mode? My current network configuration is DHCP, and i will switch to "static" mode.
[09:46] <Cxx> why?
[09:46] <kbrooks> Cxx: 'cxx'
[09:46] <gnomefreak> gcc not sure what version comes installed on ubuntu
[09:46] <Cxx> ;D does cxx imply i like C++?
[09:46] <kbrooks> Cxx: yeah
[09:46] <Cxx> hah dont love it any more than any other language
[09:46] <GreatBriton> 4.0, I NEED 3.4
[09:46] <GreatBriton> sry for caps
[09:46] <Cxx> fine then
[09:46] <kbrooks> :P
[09:46] <Cxx> name C++
[09:46] <kbrooks> aap: cool :)
[09:46] <pybe> zenfoo: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:47] <Cxx> lol
[09:47] <Cxx> used to games
[09:47] <sproingie> gentubuntu
[09:47] <sproingie> actually that would be nifty to see the two come together in some way
[09:47] <gnomefreak> GreatBriton, the only way i know of to get gcc3.5 is to download/install it using apt-get or synaptic either way a internet connection is needed
[09:47] <GreatBriton> >_<
[09:47] <aap> kbrooks: thought so myself.. :) I'm a gnome addict so have no choice
[09:47] <_C> lol
[09:47] <sproingie> USE=-gnome apt-get install firefox
[09:47] <pybe> GreatBriton: do you have dual boot?
[09:47] <sproingie> something like that
[09:47] <GreatBriton> yeah
[09:47] <mkyb14> so since it worked on hoary for the nvidia drivers and now not breezy with either the regular or legacy.... also after doing the crt +alt + backspace and i login it's runlevel 1 not the gui...
[09:47] <GreatBriton> on win xp at the moment
[09:47] <_C> though this name is belong by someone else
[09:47] <pinucset> isn't oo2 in the repositories yet?
[09:47] <_C> i can still use it lo
[09:48] <aap> sproingie: you mean ubuntu source?
[09:48] <_C> lol
[09:48] <pybe> GreatBriton: download the deb, then boot to ubuntu and install from the other partition
[09:48] <flodine> help please
[09:48] <GreatBriton> kk
[09:48] <gnomefreak> pinucset, oo2 is standard on breezy
[09:48] <_C> damn cant call myself C++
[09:48] <sproingie> aap: source debs are one thing, but there's no global configuration variables for them
[09:48] <pinucset> gnomefreak it is beta in breezy
[09:48] <aap> pinucset: it's on the livedvd
[09:48] <gnomefreak> it is beta everywhere
[09:48] <sproingie> aap: also source debs still don't have source-based dependencies
[09:48] <aap> sproingie: so they build with standard features
[09:48] <zenfoo> pybe: thanks. But it does'nt exist a friendly interface in dialogue mode like dpkg-reconfigure thenetworkpaquet ?
[09:48] <flodine> can someone help me please with breezy
[09:49] <Tachyon> Could anyone help me disable tapping for my touchpad (ALPS)?  It is incredibly annoying. :(
[09:49] <kevman> What is the command to release/renew a DHCP IP?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> flodine, ask your question we will answer if we can
[09:49] <logan001101> could anyone show me how to use this 'if COMMANDS; then COMMANDS; [ elif  COMMANDS ] '
[09:49] <aap> sproingie: gentoo is great but if one messes much with it, it can be a hell. just because of source deps.
[09:49] <Seveas> logan001101, #bash
[09:49] <dmk> Tachyon,  Option "MaxTapTime" "0" should do it
[09:49] <pybe> zenfoo: edit the file with nano or vi etc and put you network settings in it its just a text file that sets your settings
[09:49] <gnomefreak> gentoo starts hell as soon as u put disk in :(
[09:49] <alden> i want to know something, what can someone tell me about changing all the comands from using ctrl to cmand (on a mac) in ubuntu 5.04
[09:50] <Tachyon> dmk: I've tried that.  It had no effect, sadly.
[09:50] <logan001101> Seveas: i dont understand??
[09:50] <flodine> i installed artwiz font they worked perfect in hoary but breezy nothing help
[09:50] <Seveas> niri, you get your voice back when you disable that stupid script
[09:50] <sproingie> aap: usually it's because the source dependency wasn't probed well, like "depends on foopackage" instead of "foopackage with configuration xyz"
[09:50] <hramrach> Tachyon: does tpconfig work for you?
[09:50] <aap> I have only bad luck with ubuntu server
[09:50] <logan001101> sorry, got to go
[09:50] <Tachyon> hramrach: I've never heard of tpconfig.
[09:50] <Seveas> logan001101, the #bash channel knows all about bash scripting...
[09:50] <hume> Tomcat_, any luck? I used the option utf-8 but no change in misinterpreting...
[09:50] <zenfoo> pybe: Ok, thank you.
[09:50] <hramrach> Tachyon: have you heared of a terminal?
[09:50] <logan001101> Seveas: thanks Seveas
[09:50] <Tomcat_> hume: Most people on Google seem to use utf8 and it seems to work for them... I only get "??" stuff...
[09:50] <gnomefreak> i only have bad luck with RH distros
[09:51] <Tachyon> hramrach: Yes.
[09:51] <pybe> zenfoo: for more info man interfaces
[09:51] <Mafalda> ANybody willing to help me, please?
[09:51] <hume> Tomcat_, you mean you get ?? instead of the umlauts?
[09:51] <hramrach> so install tpconfig (with apt-get) and run it as root
[09:51] <Mafalda> My wireless internet connection just stopped working.
[09:51] <Seveas> Mafalda, just ask your question
[09:51] <hume> Tomcat_, cause thats precisely what I got before tooo...
[09:51] <Tomcat_> hume: Yeah.
[09:51] <Mafalda> And everything was installed before and I was on the internet.
[09:51] <pybe> Mafalda: reboot you access point
[09:51] <Mafalda> How do I do that?
[09:52] <aap> anyone ever ran linux on Compaq's "smart array" raid volume?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> sproingie,  i love some RH distros but they dont like ubuntu's grub :(
[09:52] <sproingie> so my systems at work have parallel package systems, so we have "the system perl" and a "local perl"
[09:52] <pybe> Mafalda: unplug it then plug it back in
[09:52] <Tomcat_> hume: Seems to work in Gnome though...
[09:52] <Mafalda> I've tried that.
[09:52] <Mafalda> It still doesn't work.
[09:52] <hramrach> aap: I remember it from kernel config screens, so it is quite likely :)
[09:53] <Mafalda> And it's recognized too when I go to Networking.
[09:53] <Mafalda> And it says it's active.
[09:53] <pybe> Mafalda: do you get a connection at all or just no ip or no internet
[09:53] <aap> hramrach: how do you mean?
[09:53] <Mafalda> No IP or internet.
[09:53] <Mafalda> There seems to be a connection though.
[09:53] <hramrach> aap: the person who wrote the driver probably did ..
[09:53] <pybe> Mafalda: do you have a dhcp server?
[09:53] <Mafalda> Yeah.
[09:53] <sproingie> i wonder how much those old transmeta laptops are going for these days
[09:54] <Tachyon> hramrach: I get just two lines back.
[09:54] <aap> hramrach: lol, yeah probably.. :)
[09:54] <gnomefreak> i want a mac laptop but i cant find one under 3 million dollars and my left leg :(
[09:54] <dmk> Tachyon, oh. not sure then, but I do remember talk of an alps patch but I have synaptic pad
[09:54] <hramrach> Tachyon: what does it say?
[09:54] <Mafalda> Any ideas?
[09:54] <pybe> gnomefreak: there about 550 sterlin for a new ibook now
[09:54] <sproingie> maybe i'd be better off with an old powerbok, but one of those 12-hours-to-a-charge transmetas would be nifty
[09:54] <pybe> Mafalda: pm me
[09:55] <Mafalda> Ok.
[09:55] <Tachyon> hramrach: Found Synaptics Touchpad. / Firmware: 8.96 (multiple-byte mode).
[09:55] <antisocialboris> why does apt-get /aptitude ignore a lot of packages?
[09:55] <aap> hramrach: well, I can install ubuntu-server on it. it's just after rebooting into new system. everything freaks out. somthing to look at later :)
[09:55] <hramrach> Tachyon: if it says it detected a touchpad, try tpconfig -t0
[09:55] <gnomefreak> pybe thats not too bad i havent seen that yet tho
[09:55] <aap> backing-up home dir takes ages :|
[09:55] <Tachyon> hramrach: Now it also outputs: "Corner taps disabled;           no tap gestures."
[09:56] <hume> Tomcat_, any luck?
[09:56] <hramrach> Tachyon: and does tapping still work?
[09:56] <caonex> anybody here has fglrx installed for ati 200M xpress?
[09:56] <B_166-ER-X> !nvidia
[09:56] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:56] <Tachyon> hramrach: Yes.
[09:57] <oris_wolfbane> how long should it take to copy around 20gb of data?
[09:57] <hramrach> hmm, then it probably does not really support the touchpad but does not know it does not :/
[09:57] <pybe> gnomefreak: apple store uk has ibook 595gbp but its 999dollars for us
[09:57] <hramrach> what version is the tpconfig package?
[09:58] <Tachyon> hramrach: 3.1.3
[09:58] <pybe> aap: put less in it
[09:58] <gnomefreak> pybe ty
[09:58] <pybe> gnomefreak: np
[09:58] <GreatBriton> pybe: got the deb, wish me luck :D
[09:58] <pybe> GreatBriton: good luck
[09:58] <GreatBriton> ty
[09:58] <aap> can one use bleeding edge with ubuntu, like using unsupported repositories. or just by compiling outside apt?
[09:58] <GreatBriton> :P
[09:58] <pybe> Mafalda: did you pm me?
[09:58] <Mafalda> Yeah I did.
[09:58] <pybe> aap: yep
[09:58] <aap> pybe: it also contains a VMWare VM of 4GB :)
[09:58] <pybe> aap: mmm
[09:59] <aap> pybe: cool!
[09:59] <hramrach> Tachyon: I got 3.1.3-7. It is probably the same thing.
[09:59] <Mafalda> Did you get it pybe?
[09:59] <Tachyon> hramrach: Darn.  Anything else that I might be able to do? :/
[09:59] <pybe> aap: my vmware images = 6 rangeing from 5gb to 25
[09:59] <TotiR> hi. Just installed ubuntu on an old desktop. Works great. I don't manage to get the Language Selector to work though. Nothing happens. Any known issues with it?
[09:59] <pybe> Mafalda: are you registered in freenode
[10:00] <aap> pybe: damn. are you running all windows generations with vmware?
[10:00] <Tomcat_> hume: Yeah... the utf8 thing actually works.
[10:00] <Tomcat_> hume: Just not in the console...
[10:00] <pybe> aap: some linux stuff some window dev images for work
[10:00] <Mafalda> Ah, I have to register now eh?
[10:00] <pybe> Mafalda: join #pybe
[10:00] <Mafalda> ok.
[10:00] <hramrach> Tachyon: I have no more ideas.
[10:00] <hume> Tomcat_, what option do you use? i got errors in x, not just in console
[10:00] <Tachyon> hramrach: Okay.  Thanks for the help anyway.
[10:00] <Tomcat_> hume: I tried mounting one time without options and one time with the utf8 option... in Nautilus, one came up with "invalid encoding", the other one perfect.
[10:01] <ispiked_>  is there anything like this for ubuntu? http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-fc4.html#compat
[10:01] <aap> pybe: you have the same thing with work he.. need windows :)
[10:01] <hume> Tomcat_, which one was perfect?
[10:01] <Tomcat_> hume: mount -o utf8,umask=0222 /dev/hda1 tmp
[10:01] <Tomcat_> hume: The umask shouldn't make any difference though.
[10:01] <pybe> aap: indeed
[10:01] <Tomcat_> hume: The utf8 one worked.
[10:01] <boobaa> hi ubuntu people
[10:01] <aap> hi boobaa
[10:01] <Tomcat_> hume: Though the console only showed "??".
[10:01] <hume> Tomcat_, you didnt specify ntfs?
[10:01] <hramrach> Tachyon: hmm, it does not work in X
[10:01] <Tomcat_> hume: Nah, mount can usually figure it out :)
[10:01] <hramrach> Tachyon: because X uses the mouse port
[10:01] <hume> Tomcat_, well, consoles do have problems with utf-8, sometimes..
[10:02] <boobaa> what to do if expert setup stops at timezone config?
[10:02] <Mattias> help pls
[10:02] <Mattias> /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.6' not found (required by tmw)
[10:02] <Mattias> how do i fix that version?
[10:02] <Mattias> 3.4.6
[10:02] <aap> boobaa: how does it stop? hang?
[10:02] <anatole__> does anyone know a way to make xchat to display a nick like <anatole> instead of just anatole?
[10:02] <aap> anatole__: use irssi :P
[10:03] <hume> Tomcat_, seems fstab dont like utf-8 as an option though....?
[10:03] <pybe> aap: nice choice
[10:03] <boobaa> aap: I wouldn't call it "hang" since I can switch to other consoles
[10:03] <boobaa> all I get is a blank blue screen for about 15 mins
[10:03] <Tomcat_> hume: nls=utf8 should be the same, you can try that
[10:03] <aap> pybe: thanks.. it simly works like a dream :)
[10:03] <pybe> aap: indded
[10:03] <boobaa> after that setup menu returns, standing still on timezone config
[10:04] <vbgunz> anyone know how to format 36GB towards the home directory? I have unallocated space (36GB) *but* cannot format it with the disk admin utility... How do I format it for use as a home directory?
[10:04] <aap> boobaa: well, hard one. tried normal setup?
[10:04] <hume> Tomcat_, utf-8 should be in options, right, not in type column in fstab?
[10:04] <mhlandry> Anyone know why I'm getting "error: stdio.h: No such file or directory" when trying to compile a c file using gcc?
[10:04] <Tomcat_> vbgunz: sudo mkfs <partition> can do it
[10:04] <HappyFool> mhlandry: install 'build-essential' to get a more complete build environment
[10:05] <Tomcat_> hume: Right, options column
[10:05] <bluefrog-10> has any1 a working samba-ldap using ssl/tls?
[10:05] <aap> mhlandry: include io.h or somthing?
[10:05] <TotiR> ok there's an exception on the terminal when chosing accept in the language selector
[10:05] <boobaa> aap: nope, I don't know if normal setup kills my existing partitions filled with my work or not
[10:05] <vbgunz> Thank you Tomcat_ I will look at that now
[10:05] <HappyFool> vbgunz: at a guess, you need to partition the free space first
[10:05] <TotiR> what's the best way to report issues?
[10:05] <aap> stdio.h
[10:05] <hume> Tomcat_, it does not like either utf-8 or nls=utf-8, says NLS character set utf-8 not found...
[10:05] <savvyside> Hi everyone
[10:05] <Tomcat_> vbgunz: Make sure to get the right partition... because mkfs *will* destroy your files without asking
[10:05] <vbgunz> HappyFool: Yeah, *but* I dont have a partition option in the disk utility
[10:05] <wpTony> lathiat++
[10:05] <mhlandry> aap: included it
[10:05] <mhlandry> happy: thanks
[10:05] <Tomcat_> hume: utf8 without "-"
[10:05] <aap> boobaa: ah, I see. can u just skip timezone and see it that works
[10:05] <srbaker> heya
[10:06] <srbaker> what are some simple music players for gnome?
[10:06] <vbgunz> Tomcat_: It has to be hda,4
[10:06] <Lathiat> wpTony: :)
[10:06] <Lathiat> wpTony: night
[10:06] <savvyside> may I ask a question about Grub, or perhaps information about a better place to ask it?
[10:06] <Lathiat> Night all!
[10:06] <boobaa> aap: ok, I'll try that (and pray it works :-) )
[10:06] <aap> boobaa: have to do my own install as soon as a back-up finishes
[10:06] <Tomcat_> srbaker: rhythmbox
[10:06] <HappyFool> vbgunz: hmm. install gparted and use that to do the partitioning
[10:06] <Lathiat> happy ubuntu-ing
[10:06] <Lathiat> happy badgering :)
[10:06] <kbrooks> savvyside: dont ask to ask
[10:06] <kbrooks> ask
[10:06] <aap> mhlandry: np :)
[10:06] <srbaker> Tomcat_, that's like a music cataloguing app.  i wanted something a little smaller
[10:06] <vbgunz> ok, partition first then makefs?
[10:06] <mhlandry> thanks guy, that worked
[10:06] <Tomcat_> savvyside: Ask what you need to know :)
[10:06] <hume> Tomcat_, wow....that was it..the "-".....thanks a lot...:)
[10:06] <HappyFool> vbgunz: indeed
[10:07] <vbgunz> ok
[10:07] <HappyFool> mhlandry: have fun compiling ;)
[10:07] <boobaa> grrr...
[10:07] <vbgunz> gparted is best HappyFool?
[10:07] <Tomcat_> srbaker: totem can play music files... no playlist though. If you want something Winamp-style, try "beep-music-player"
[10:07] <Deimos|> I got a problem with mount, I cant do that, the mount tells me: "mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /media/hdb busy" but its not mounted and fdisk -l fount that harddisk, any help?
[10:07] <boobaa> the same with setting up users & pass
[10:07] <Tomcat_> hume: No probs :)
[10:07] <savvyside> I am an experienced software engineer. Relatively new to Linux/Ubuntu, altho i am coming from Hoary, and have successfully installed breezy.
[10:07] <boobaa> all I get is a blank blue screen
[10:07] <srbaker> where do i get mp3 support?
[10:07] <HappyFool> vbgunz: um. well, it's got a fairly friendy interface
[10:07] <savvyside> the problem that I have is that no matter what I do, i can not use more than one IDE hard drive.
[10:08] <trinitrogen> Im having a problem getting GCC, I just apt-get installed it, and made a simple program but its telling me it can't find stdio.h ? Do I need a seperate package?
[10:08] <HappyFool> !tell srbaker about restricted
[10:08] <aap> boobaa: check your cd, try burn it again
[10:08] <savvyside> i have a relatively modern box, (2.8 GHz) and I know about master/slave jumpers, MBR's, partitioning, Setting Bios settings etc blah blah
[10:08] <HappyFool> trinitrogen: install build-essential
[10:08] <srbaker> nevermind
[10:08] <srbaker> thanks
[10:08] <boobaa> aap: I have checked it before rebooting, md5 was correct
[10:08] <savvyside> I have a main 160 gig hard drive on hda, and a dvd burner on hdc
[10:09] <hussam> can somebody help me install dazuko module?
[10:09] <duri> /leave
[10:09] <savvyside> i was able to add a sata drive on /dev/sda1 no problem.
[10:09] <duri> /leave
[10:09] <vbgunz> HappyFool: technically, I won't need makefs?
[10:09] <savvyside> but if I add a second IDE, grub will NOT boot
[10:09] <HappyFool> vbgunz: well, ideally it will be called for you by the gui tools
[10:09] <HappyFool> vbgunz: afaik gparted will 'format' partitions
[10:09] <savvyside> if i go to livecd, i can see the drives. I have erased the MBR, I have partitioned them, I have layed down an ext3 fs
[10:10] <vbgunz> HappyFool: ahh, ok, major thanks!
[10:10] <hume> ahh...now i feel stupid...i want my konqueror to show two panes, one with the file structure and one with the contents of the chosen folder...how can I get this in ubuntu?? i just shows one pane...
[10:10] <savvyside> but if I try to reboot, grub does the neverending grub grub grub thing
[10:10] <HappyFool> savvyside: what error do you get when booting ?
[10:10] <HappyFool> oh
[10:10] <savvyside> can anyone suggest anything?
[10:10] <savvyside> I normally get endless grub grub grub
[10:10] <pybe> savvyside: buy another sata drive
[10:10] <savvyside> pybe... are you serious?
[10:11] <savvyside> my main boot drive is IDE
[10:11] <HappyFool> savvyside: this is with two drives on the first ide channel ?
[10:11] <pybe> savvyside: i wish i had the money to buy 1
[10:11] <ispiked_> so, I guess you guys missed my question.
[10:11] <ispiked_> is there anything like this for ubuntu? http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-fc4.html#compat
[10:11] <savvyside> yes happy, but it also fails if I add it as slave on second channel
[10:11] <savvyside> any slave on primary or secondary IDE fails
[10:12] <savvyside> these drives are known good
[10:12] <HappyFool> but from livecd you can see all the drives?
[10:12] <pybe> savvyside: checked ide cables?
[10:12] <paulproteus|lapt> ispiked_: You meant the old GCC compat stuff?
[10:12] <savvyside> they worked fine on hoary, but I had to use LILO
[10:12] <paulproteus|lapt> I think it comes with the system.
[10:12] <pybe> savvyside: nm
[10:12] <def> hello
[10:12] <ispiked_> paulproteus|lapt: apparently not. I can't run firefox that's build with gcc3 because I get the error.
[10:13] <savvyside> the ide cables are fine. moving the primary boot disk to the other connector on the same drive works fine.
[10:13] <def> bye
[10:13] <paulproteus|lapt> ispiked_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/libstdc++5 maybe, then
[10:13] <GreatBriton> pybe et al: i got the deb, bu, being a newbie, i don't know how to use it >_<
[10:13] <vbgunz> HappyFool: Gparted is nice, I like it!
[10:13] <bluefrog-10> has any1 a working samba-ldap using ssl/tls?
[10:13] <pybe> GreatBriton: dpkg -i myfile.deb
[10:13] <vbgunz> HappyFool: should be included by default I think...
[10:13] <HappyFool> savvyside: it is most odd that connecting a slave to the second channel would break things
[10:13] <savvyside> is grub getting confused because I added the other drives?
[10:13] <GreatBriton> kk
[10:13] <GreatBriton> ty
[10:13] <paulproteus|lapt> savvyside: What's the problem?
[10:14] <paulproteus|lapt> savvyside: Any of these Western Digital drives?
[10:14] <savvyside> i tried setting the grub time delay at boot higher, that works IF I don't have a second IDE drive
[10:14] <lui> hello
[10:14] <ispiked_> paulproteus|lapt: I could do that, but then I'd have to use gcc 3.
[10:14] <ShiftyPowers> anyone here use vncviewer in ubuntu?
[10:14] <uli_> hi there! is there a channel for fancontrol & temperature  specific things?
[10:14] <ShiftyPowers> i'm having trouble getting the screen to show properly
[10:14] <savvyside> if I add the second IDE drive, i never make it that far in the bootstrap sequence
[10:14] <ShiftyPowers> parts of the screen never refresh
[10:14] <hume> anyone got advice on the best application for dealing with digital cameras and photos in ubuntu?
[10:14] <paulproteus|lapt> ispiked_: Huh?  Just install that package.  It doesn't need GCC, just "gcc-base".
[10:14] <savvyside> what does it mean when grub constantly spits out an endless screen of "GRUB"
[10:14] <ShiftyPowers> it's hard to read what's on the screen because it never refreshes
[10:15] <ispiked_> paulproteus|lapt: oh.
[10:15] <paulproteus|lapt> savvyside: It means your PC BIOS is in some weird state.
[10:15] <paulproteus|lapt> ispiked_: No worries. :)
[10:15] <HappyFool> savvyside: can't spot anything about 'grub grub grub' in the manual
[10:15] <lui> I have a security question: linux has suffered a virus that delete files or destroy files?
[10:15] <uli_> nobody an idea, if there is channel for temperature & fancontrol things?
[10:15] <savvyside> paul... i think you are right. I have scoured the web/google/board for some help
[10:16] <paulproteus|lapt> savvyside: Have you tried switching the PC BIOS mode for the hard drives around?  There's usually NORMAL, LBA, and LARGE (sometimes "LRG").
[10:16] <savvyside> some say that they see this when the IDE detection is set for auto.
[10:16] <savvyside> mine is
[10:16] <prav33n> Is there an emacs-snapshot (22) package available for breezy?
[10:16] <savvyside> but if i set to manual, then I get grub 15 error
[10:16] <savvyside> paul... how do I know what to set it to?
[10:16] <savvyside> it is auto right now
[10:16] <HappyFool> grub error 15 : File not found
[10:16] <paulproteus|lapt> Pick something. ;)
[10:17] <paulproteus|lapt> Set it to LBA first.
[10:17] <paulproteus|lapt> LRG second.
[10:17] <paulproteus|lapt> NORMAL third.
[10:17] <HappyFool> that looks almost fixable
[10:17] <savvyside> Ok
[10:17] <savvyside> I wonder if I should try to update the bios?
[10:17] <paulproteus|lapt> savvyside: Not yet.
[10:17] <savvyside> this board is only a couple years old. Old enough to be supported, new enough that it should not be squirrely
[10:17] <paulproteus|lapt> I'm going to go.  Bye, y'all.
[10:18] <savvyside> what I don't get is why it works fine with one?
[10:18] <savvyside> I love ubuntu... :)
[10:18] <savvyside> this is not a dual boot scheme, I want pure ubuntu
[10:18] <sunshine82> im tryin to rest my password in mysql does anyone know how to make sense of it for me i have the website
[10:18] <savvyside> there is nothing on the drives that I care about.
[10:18] <sunshine82> but i dont how to reset it
[10:19] <savvyside> i know the drives are fine, I booted in livecd and copied what I wanted over to the sata drive so I have everything backed
[10:19] <bluefrog-10> sunshine: the mysql root passwd?
[10:19] <sunshine82> bluefrog-10
[10:19] <yancheng> helo, i have a share library, is it possible i force the compiler to "integrated" the whole share library into my program, make it as "static" library?
[10:19] <sunshine82> bluefrog-10 yes
[10:19] <HappyFool> savvyside: sounds like weird hardware issues. try out paul's suggestions
[10:20] <lymz> hey ubuntu
[10:20] <HappyFool> savvyside: that error 15 might be fixable; it's certainly a lot better than 'grubgrubgrub'
[10:20] <bluefrog-10> mssqladmin -u root password "your newpassword"
[10:20] <lymz> i'd like to re-install 5.10, but i would like to save a list of packages i currently have?
[10:20] <sunshine82> bluefrog-10 im at the website http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[10:20] <savvyside> should i try moving my cdrom drive over to the slave of the primary and then put the second hard drive on master of the secondary?
[10:20] <bluefrog-10> mysqladmin -u root password "your newpassword"
[10:20] <HappyFool> lymz: 'dpkg -l|grep ^ii' will tell you
[10:20] <lymz> where is synaptic history saved? or can i export a list from synaptic?
[10:20] <savvyside> has anyone ever seen the grubgrubgrub? or the grub 15?
[10:20] <Seveas> lymz, you mean a list of installed packages?
[10:21] <philipp> hello all, i have a strange problem getting an ip adress for my ubuntu installation from my isp by dhcp. its a laptop and it worked in my office (an other isp). but not at home.
[10:21] <HappyFool> i've never seen grubgrubgrub. error 15 just means it can't find some file (possibly menu.lst?)
[10:21] <lymz> HappyFool, that works, thanks, i'll save the output :-)
[10:21] <thesilentkiller> Grub loading error (Error 17) :(. I have dual boot (Ubuntu/XP). I formatted a partition to have FAT32 (from XP). Looks like the grub stuff was in the partition that i formatted :(. Can someone help me figure out how to restore grub?
[10:21] <lymz> Seveas, yes a list of my installed programs
[10:21] <sunshine82> bluefrog-10 it say that command not found
[10:21] <zdennis> i just upgraded from hoary to breezy. It is failing to initizlie my nvidia glx driver
[10:22] <Seveas> lymz, for the programs: dpkg --get-selections
[10:22] <Seveas> lymz, for the other, ask ubotu about grub
[10:22] <bluefrog-10> sunshine check typo
[10:22] <frank23> zdennis: were you using the one from synaptic or from nvidia.com?
[10:22] <solidgroove> thesilentkiller, use a bootdisk or live cd to boot ubuntu and use grub-install /dev/xdx
[10:22] <bluefrog-10> the first line i wrote was wrong
[10:22] <zdennis> i thought the one from synaptic
[10:22] <sunshine82> bluefrog-10 it now sayin Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)'
[10:22] <savvyside> thank you everyone. I will try the LBA/Large thing
[10:23] <HappyFool> if /boot has been formatted a bit more than grub-install will be needed
[10:23] <zdennis> (i am more of an apt-get kind of guy though, so i downloaded with apt, but shouldn't make a difference)
[10:23] <savvyside> i appreciate your assistance
[10:23] <XFreakazoidX> hm
[10:23] <stas> HI
[10:23] <bluefrog-10> hang on...
[10:23] <thesilentkiller> solidgroove: I have the install version of Ubuntu 5.10 in a cd. Would that help?
[10:23] <sunshine82> happyfool do u know about mysql
[10:23] <philipp> any networkguru here?
[10:23] <HappyFool> sunshine82: sorry, no
[10:23] <vbgunz> HappyFool: would you know how I can move my /home directory to the new partition?
[10:23] <sunshine82> happyfool cool#
[10:23] <solidgroove> thesilentkiller, i dont think so, unless it has a repair option
[10:24] <HappyFool> vbgunz: um. probably easiest to use the command line
[10:24] <solidgroove> thesilentkiller, you need to boot so you have a root sh # and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to how you want it and install it to MBR with grub-install /dev/hda\sda\etc
[10:24] <flodine> ok breezy got problems cant install fonts wow
[10:24] <Topslakr> what multiuser runlevel doesn't start the gui login?
[10:24] <HappyFool> vbgunz: i think this will work:     rsync -av /home/ /mnt/point/for/new/partition
[10:24] <thesilentkiller> solidgroove: ok, let me write the live version to a cd and try to repair
[10:25] <vbgunz> I am in Disk manager and it seems I have to "FORMAT" the partition... The Access Path says none... Should it say something so I can make it my new home partition?
[10:25] <stas> I'm a complete noOb to Linux but loving it.. Just one Q though. I installed ubuntu and also added the KDE pack..
[10:25] <HappyFool> vbgunz: you'll need sudo
[10:25] <thesilentkiller> solidgroove: thanks. bye for now
[10:25] <HappyFool> vbgunz: i don't think you can use the gui to do that
[10:25] <stas> now it starts up in KDE instead of GNOME.. and i want the initial loginscreen to ben the Gnome screen
[10:25] <vbgunz> HappyFool: Ahh, I thought maybe it would be possible :P
[10:25] <lymz> thanks again HappyFool and Seveas
[10:25] <stas> can anyone help me out here?
[10:25] <vbgunz> ok give me a few minutes, thanks!
[10:26] <frank23> stas reinstall gdm
[10:26] <HappyFool> stas: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' in a terminal
[10:26] <zdennis> My glx module isn't loaded.... should i try to load that before starting x? or shouldn't that matter, because X will try to load it?
[10:26] <kevogod> stas, Change your session to use Gnome
[10:26] <kevogod> stas, You should be given the option on the login screen
[10:27] <stas> HappyFool and Frank23 Thanks i'll go give that a try
[10:27] <HappyFool> zdennis: i think only nvidia.ko (or equivalent for ati -- fglrx.ko?) must be loaded by the kernel
[10:27] <frank23> kevogod: he wants to use gdm instead of kdm for login
[10:27] <kevogod> Sorry, I misread
[10:27] <zdennis> HappyFool: ok, nvidia and nvidia_agp are both loaded
[10:28] <HappyFool> interesting. i only have nvidia
[10:28] <bluefrog-10> sunshine: have a look at http://www.megalinux.net/archives/000183.html
[10:28] <sunshine82> does anyone know about mysql
[10:28] <sunshine82> im tryin to rest my root password
[10:28] <funkyHat> sunshine82, #mysql probably do
[10:29] <SillyCone> how come the highest resolution I can set on GeForce 6800 and 19'' DELL LCD is 1280x1024?
[10:29] <sunshine82> funkyhat huh
[10:29] <hussam> what is the kernel module capability?
[10:29] <funkyHat> sunshine82, /join #mysql
[10:29] <sunshine82> funkyhat ohhh
[10:29] <funkyHat> ;)
[10:30] <hussam> sorry I meant what is the kernel module called "capability"?
[10:30] <Cronic> Can someone tell me the package for the X server?
[10:30] <Cronic> It's like xorg- something
[10:30] <HappyFool> hussam: i think kernel capabilities have to do with extra security levels or something
[10:30] <funkyHat> Cronic, xserver-xorg
[10:30] <Cronic> thanks!
[10:30] <kbrooks> i need help
[10:30] <End11> I have a strange problem: i built a custom kernel, and installed the nvidia drivers off the nvidia site, and it works great, but now if i reboot X won't start, untill i re-install the nvidia drivers. When it does it says they've been modified.. what could this be?
[10:31] <DJ_SpawN> have any one here had a problem with automatix when they install media codes??? (my X went down and i had to reinstall) how can i fix it?
[10:31] <Cronic> I just got my first SCSI+RAID system working :)
[10:31] <Cronic> Never done one from the ground up before
[10:31] <frank23> End11: I know how to fix that
[10:31] <hussam> HappyFool: I need to load dazuko kernel module before capability is loaded, how would I do that?
[10:31] <End11> frank23, cool how?
[10:31] <frank23> End11:  do apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx
[10:31] <kbrooks> i need help
[10:31] <End11> frank23, ahh cool thanks
[10:31] <kbrooks> i have unmounted a ssh volume
[10:32] <HappyFool> kbrooks: you know the drill -- ask a question
[10:32] <frank23> End11: some scripts from nvidia-glx  screw up the nvidia drivers at every rebbot
[10:32] <HappyFool> hussam: um. i'm not sure, usually those dependencies are automatic
[10:32] <kbrooks> yet it still asks for a passwd when i open a file
[10:32] <funkyHat> Cronic, why install xserver-xorg though, when ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, or xubuntu-desktop will do that for you?
[10:32] <DJ_SpawN> please guys i really need help:)
[10:32] <zdennis> Cronic, do you notice a big speed difference?
[10:33] <HappyFool> hussam: you can try putting them in the right order in /etc/modules
[10:33] <kbrooks> help!
[10:33] <kbrooks> i have unmounted a ssh volume
[10:33] <kbrooks> yet it still asks for a passwd when i open a file
[10:33] <hussam> HappyFool: capability is not in /etc/modules
[10:34] <frank23> End11: this is assuming that you used to have the nvidia-glx package installed
[10:34] <HappyFool> hussam: just a suggestion
[10:35] <boobaa> hm, chrooting into /target on the 2nd console and mount /proc can show me that debconf is eating the CPU
[10:35] <zdennis> ok, i have nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-legacy instaalled, X says it cannot find the Nvidia GLX Drivers
[10:35] <DJ_SpawN> any one tried automatix?
[10:35] <zdennis> grrr
[10:35] <zdennis> any ideas?
[10:36] <sorush20> guys is there a font that is about office equipment?
[10:36] <boobaa> aap: does this ^^^ say anything to you?
[10:36] <kbrooks> HELP ME NOW
[10:36] <kbrooks> URGENT
[10:36] <kbrooks> i have unmounted a ssh volume
[10:36] <kbrooks> yet it still asks for a passwd when i open a file
[10:36] <logan001101> could anyone show me how to use this 'if COMMANDS; then COMMANDS; [ elif  COMMANDS ] '?
[10:37] <kbrooks> logan001101: if test "2" -eq "2"; then ...; elif ...; ...; ...; else; ...; fi
[10:37] <dianwei> I'm just back to say thanks, and everythings working now :D
[10:37] <stas> HappyFool and Frank23, Thanks a million worked like a charm.. on to do some more exploring.. just wish i didnt break one of my partitions.. ;)
[10:37] <dianwei> goodbye good folks.
[10:38] <HappyFool> kbrooks: i've never mounted via ssh vefore; does 'mount' show the mount point as still mounted?
[10:38] <logan001101> kbrooks: can i PM u
[10:38] <logan001101> i dont understand
[10:39] <kbrooks> HappyFool: no
[10:39] <kbrooks> in gnome
[10:39] <bluefrog-10> has anyone got a working samba-ldap with ssl/tls on any linux distro?
[10:39] <mikal_> Is there an equivilant to iTunes Radio for *nix and/or a way to play winamp/win media/foobar streams?
[10:39] <jesi> hey guys, im not getting any sound through mplayer and firefox
[10:40] <kbrooks> HappyFool: ?
[10:40] <logan001101> kbrooks: what wrong with this " if ./a.out then ls fi "?
[10:40] <jesi> sound works great with everything else...
[10:40] <jesi> im using 5.04
[10:40] <kbrooks> logan001101: ';'
[10:40] <ColonelKernel> hmm no gyach or gyach-enhanced channel :((
[10:40] <kbrooks> if ./a.out; then ls; fi
[10:40] <logan001101> kbrooks: got it, thanks, im trying
[10:41] <HappyFool> kbrooks: sorry, you lost me
[10:41] <kbrooks> HappyFool: "connect to server"
[10:41] <Cronic> Can anyone help me out with an X configuration? I have an old onboard Intel video chipset, and ubuntu I guess isn't recognizing it
[10:41] <logan001101> kbrooks: got it, thank u alot
[10:41] <starscalling> hey
[10:41] <starscalling> if i had one thing to change
[10:41] <starscalling> i would have left more than 6 gigs for /
[10:41] <kbrooks> lol
[10:42] <starscalling> how hard is it to repartition?
[10:42] <starscalling> see
[10:42] <starscalling> i started with 6 partitions
[10:42] <davix> I'm hosting a lotgd game whilest the original is causing trouble http://corky.net/lotgd/referral.php?r=DaviX (is my referal) and if you don't want to refer me you can play thru http://corky.net/lotgd/
[10:42] <HappyFool> i really need to get to bed. good night
[10:42] <ColonelKernel> Cronic, try vesa
[10:42] <starscalling> swt davix
[10:42] <starscalling> how is fyrestorm
[10:43] <jesi> my sound in mplayer isnt working through firefozx
[10:43] <zdennis> yeah, i have X
[10:43] <zdennis> it is screwed up still
[10:43] <zdennis> but slowly movng forward
[10:43] <starscalling> lol zdennis
[10:43] <mikal_> Is there an equivilant to iTunes Radio for *nix and/or a way to play winamp/win media/foobar streams?
[10:43] <davix> :) tnx
[10:43] <starscalling> personally im rather impressed by the ubuntu group
[10:43] <starscalling> this was easiest linux to try yet
[10:43] <logan001101> in a.out 's source : main() { return(0) }, so what wrong with this command ?? : ./a.out | echo
[10:43] <starscalling> and its kinda debian!
[10:44] <sorush20> where are all the svg icons kept for kde?
[10:44] <logan001101> sorry, wrong source
[10:44] <logan001101> in a.out 's source : main() { return(0); }, so what wrong with this command ?? : ./a.out | echo
[10:44] <Cronic> It's not working... vesa or i810
[10:44] <Cronic> and im sure it's an I810 chipset
[10:44] <gma> if I was to buy a well supported mini pci wireless card, what should I be looking at?
[10:44] <gma> preferably something that runs out of the box on breezy...
[10:45] <Rieger> Anyone been having trouble with a dead keyboard after installing ubuntu? cant write anything at the login-screen :s
[10:45] <aap> boobaa: sorry, I can't help. somthing really wrong obviously. All I can suggest is to try a different install cd, maybe a version before and apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:45] <kbrooks> logan001101: why do you *expect* help?
[10:45] <boobaa> gr
[10:45] <boobaa> aap: thx
[10:46] <starscalling> Rieger what kinda kb do you have?
[10:46] <starscalling> perhaps you did not select the right one?
[10:46] <Rieger> starscalling: norwegian layout, selected that one. tried 2 different ones, both PS/2
[10:47] <Rieger> you're thinking I chose a wrong layout in the beginning of the install process?
[10:47] <aap> boobaa: don't know if there's bugzilla for ubuntu. you could search that for your issue
[10:47] <logan001101> kbrooks: yes
[10:47] <Rieger> I find it weird that it wont accept _any_ key I press
[10:47] <kbrooks> logan001101: no, why
[10:48] <mnirr> I just instaled my first linux program and i can add a launcher to the top panle but i want it in the Applications dropdown, how do i do it?
[10:48] <madmak> hi, i cant add mix applet to my panel. can any1 help?
[10:48] <tapiper> tapiper
[10:48] <logan001101> kbrooks: no, i didnt use help for pipe
[10:49] <logan001101> kbrooks: but i think it will work
[10:49] <kbrooks> logan001101: read
[10:49] <madmak> any other applets work good
[10:49] <kbrooks> "logan001101: why do you *expect* help?"
[10:49] <logan001101> kbrooks: ok, fine
[10:50] <starscalling> Rieger i mean perhaps you have 104 key and selected 112 or something equivelant yes :)
[10:50] <logan001101> kbrooks: cuz i dont know
[10:50] <logan001101> kbrooks: why u say so
[10:50] <kbrooks> logan001101: there are other ways to get help
[10:51] <corincole> can someone link me to how to upgrade from hoary to breezy please?
[10:51] <corincole> !breezy
[10:51] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:51] <jchillerup> Hey. Can I get the task switcherin Gnome alpha-transparent?
[10:51] <corincole> :)
[10:51] <Rieger> starscalling: _pretty_ sure i selected norwegian layout. see i had to reboot a couple of times in order for the installer to let me scroll the list of countries..
[10:51] <__2> How iI can install new nvidia drivers with breezy ?
[10:51] <Rieger> so i think the problem was present even there
[10:51] <nightswim> !nvidia
[10:51] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:51] <__2> tx :}
[10:51] <cornflake> can anyone tell how i can get the virtual consoles back? whenever i press ctrl+alt+f1, i don't get to a full terminal
[10:51] <starscalling> what i mean Rieger  is perhaps the keyboard itself is the wrong type
[10:52] <madmak> nobody knows about that applet prob.?
[10:52] <logan001101> kbrooks: u mean google?? or forum ??
[10:52] <starscalling> not the language translation setup?
[10:52] <cornflake> !xorg
[10:52] <ubotu> [xorg]  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:52] <kbrooks> logan001101: none of those
[10:52] <Rieger> starscalling: tried 2 different ones tho
[10:52] <starscalling> <-- not an expert here, just doing best guess..
[10:52] <starscalling> hum
[10:52] <jack> question..synaptic just gave me a weird error msg
[10:52] <starscalling> you cannot type even in the commandline at all?
[10:52] <Rieger> no
[10:52] <kbrooks> logan001101: lets start over
[10:52] <jack> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[10:52] <starscalling> do you have any other kb to try?
[10:53] <Rieger> tried a "safeboot" with just the commandline but no response..
[10:53] <starscalling> different type i mean :)
[10:53] <sipayn> help peopleeeeee
[10:53] <starscalling> ps2 is fine and all
[10:53] <logan001101> kbrooks: ok
[10:53] <sipayn> can you all see this?
[10:53] <Rieger> like i said, tried both my old logitech and the brand new that i just packed out of the box with the pc
[10:53] <logan001101> kbrooks: i have just begun
[10:53] <jack> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[10:53] <jack> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[10:53] <jack> wtf? :<
[10:53] <kbrooks> logan001101: no
[10:53] <sipayn> Hey yo people,, can you see me typin?
[10:54] <kbrooks> logan001101: in the help
[10:54] <__2> the binary packages is helping me alot :) (no need to play with the kernel sources at all :-))
[10:54] <zdennis> i am getting errors now with X that say tha symbols are found in some of the modules, like libfb.a:fbmmx.o No Symbols found
[10:54] <war-totem> sipayn: who said that
[10:54] <kbrooks> i mean
[10:54] <zdennis> anyideas of what I should look to do?
[10:54] <confrey> hi eveerybody
[10:54] <zdennis> this happens for libdri.a also
[10:54] <war-totem> sipayn: is someone there?
[10:54] <sipayn> ok cool thanks
[10:54] <logan001101> kbrooks: i understood u
[10:54] <ssam> whats up sipayn
[10:54] <confrey> anybody using gEDA?
[10:54] <Rieger> oh what the hell, might as well do a reinstall while im sitting here pondering
[10:54] <kbrooks> logan001101: what do u want to do?
[10:54] <sipayn> I got this problem after I installed ubuntu
[10:54] <sipayn> it sucks
[10:55] <sipayn> think you could try to help me out if I tell ya it?
[10:55] <ssam> sipayn, whats the problem
[10:55] <ubuntu> i want to mount my ntfs partition in ubuntu, exist a way?
[10:55] <ssam> sipayn, if i can
[10:55] <sipayn> ok,, I decided to format my computer yesterday and decided to try linux for the first time,, so I installed Ubuntu right
[10:56] <ssam> sipayn, ok
[10:56] <funkyHat> ubuntu, see the message ubotu just sent you
[10:56] <sipayn> so,,, after installing it,, I decided that I didin't really like it right now,, and for now it would be better to use windows,,, this is where the problem starts
[10:56] <sorush20> am I able to use kde icons and print them and edit them for non profit use?
[10:56] <ssam> sipayn, thats a shame but fair enough
[10:56] <Rieger> starscalling: now i booted with the install cd. got to the command-menu where you can specify install parameters etc.. pressed enter for default. then i get a list of languages
[10:56] <zdennis> i am looking on nvidia's site for their drivers, do I want the IA32  section?
[10:56] <sipayn> when I reboot my computer,, the cd-rom won't boot off  my windows cd
[10:57] <Rieger> but no response from the keyboard
[10:57] <starscalling> Rieger not that bit there
[10:57] <zdennis> sipayn , set in your BIOS settings to boot off cd before hard diks
[10:57] <sipayn> it says "failure" and jumps right into grub startup
[10:57] <starscalling> but where it specifies what KIND of kb it is
[10:57] <sipayn> I did that already
[10:57] <starscalling> 101 keys 104keys etc
[10:57] <funkyHat> sipayn, does your ubuntu installer CD still boot fine?
[10:57] <hramrach> Hello again
[10:57] <ssam> sipayn, are you sure the cd is bootable and not damaged
[10:57] <sipayn> justa  sc,, I'll be right back,, I'm gonna check something
[10:57] <Rieger> yeah but I cant get past this selectionlist this time
[10:58] <sipayn> thanks man,, I'll be back in like 2-3 mins
[10:58] <starscalling> dunno...
[10:58] <ssam> sipayn, ok
[10:58] <Rieger> earlier I just booted a couple of times then i got a response from the keyboard in this menu
[10:58] <hramrach> Who wanted to disable touchpad tapping?
[10:58] <starscalling> you need more help than i can provide i think :/
[10:58] <starscalling> did you check the forums and info site?
[10:58] <logan001101> kbrooks: i tend to write a program like bolean C in windows
[10:58] <Rieger> but this is like the first menu in the installprocess you know, and now i cant get past it
[10:58] <Rieger> yeah, many got fucked up keyboard-issues like mine
[10:58] <starscalling> so you cant even install the thing?
[10:58] <sorush20> am I able to use kde icons and print them and edit them for non profit use?
[10:59] <logan001101> kbrooks: so that im learning to program in unix
[10:59] <Rieger> yeah i managed earlier, cause after 4-5 boots i suddenly got a response from the keyboard
[10:59] <starscalling> perhaps that brand isnt fully compatible?
[10:59] <Halai> i've got an issue with playing media files. was wondering if somone could help me out
[10:59] <starscalling> Halai what kind?
[10:59] <starscalling> in general?
[10:59] <starscalling> !tell Halai about restricted formats
[10:59] <Rieger> brand new hp business pc, tried both the hp key and a logitech key
[11:00] <Azalyn> starscalling: Is that a bot command?
[11:00] <Halai> starscalling: i can play any sound from applications, and that works fine. but i can't play things like mp3/mpg/avi etc
[11:00] <starscalling> ok follow the instructions on that link
[11:00] <Halai> starscalling:  thanks i'll take a look at it.
[11:00] <starscalling> but for the win32 do this:
[11:00] <zdennis> is it just me, or are all of Nvidia's linux Ia32 drivers showing up as "Page Not Fond" when you go to download?
[11:00] <starscalling> !tell halai about w32deb
[11:00] <Azalyn> !tell Azalyn about restricted formats
[11:01] <Halai> and also had a question, am i the only one with firefox crashing?
[11:01] <Azalyn> ah. neat.
[11:01] <starscalling> that should get you started
[11:01] <starscalling> if you need more just holler :P
[11:01] <Pa_l> hi i have problems with installing realplayer in ubuntu, when synaptic package manager has downloaded it cannot configure
[11:01] <funkyHat> Azalyn, /msg ubotu restricted formats
[11:01] <starscalling> Azalyn yeah !tell <someone> about <something> is nice :)
[11:01] <funkyHat> ;)
[11:01] <Halai> starscalling: thanks mate. appreciate it. i'm a linux virgin. just dumped my win box two weeks ago so having quite a bit of fun with ubuntu and rather like it.
[11:01] <starscalling> hehe right on :)
[11:02] <Azalyn> hehe
[11:02] <Azalyn> "like, totally" ?
[11:02] <starscalling> if you miss windows too much check out sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:02] <Azalyn> is this bot from beverly hills?
[11:02] <Azalyn> :P
[11:02] <starscalling> hehe
[11:02] <starscalling> it takes pm's too ;)
[11:02] <funkyHat> no, it's just on crack
[11:02] <Pa_l> i think the problem might be with rpm packages, dont know if ubuntu can handle this packages
[11:02] <starscalling> !fuck Azalyn
[11:02] <ubotu> starscalling: No idea
[11:02] <funkyHat> aren't you ubotu?
[11:02] <starscalling> wtf was that command
[11:02] <hramrach> For me firefox does not crash, at least not too often.
[11:02] <funkyHat> !lart starscalling
[11:02] <starscalling> was a funny one
[11:03] <starscalling> OI
[11:03] <funkyHat> that one? O:-)
[11:03] <daxxar> !sulk
[11:03] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, daxxar
[11:03] <daxxar> Arr.
[11:03] <sipayn> hey I'm back
[11:03] <adoyretsamon> any news on OpenOffice 2.0 in repos?
[11:03] <daxxar> !hug
[11:03] <ubotu> Wish i knew, daxxar
[11:03] <sipayn> I managed to get it booting off the ubuntu cd,, so I guess it's just my winwods cd thats fucked
[11:03] <sipayn> unfortunatly
[11:03] <funkyHat> adoyretsamon, going by ubuntu's release policy, we won't see 2.0 until April next year
[11:04] <hramrach> But it tends to eat lots of memory, increase the size of used memory both when tabs are open and closed(!), and eat lots of cpu cycles to do anything when many tabs are open.
[11:04] <daxxar> Not too alike dpkg on Debian channel. ;)
[11:04] <funkyHat> adoyretsamon, there is a beta available though
[11:04] <adoyretsamon> funkyHat, LOl... yea
[11:04] <liz4rd> Is there anyway to install ubuntu 5.10 with the 2.6.12 or w/e kernel off the bat? liek a say a cammand to put in at the boot: screen ??????
[11:04] <ColonelKernel> so far so good w breezy - not as responsive as gentoo
[11:04] <adoyretsamon> oh well time to build a deb for myself
[11:04] <sipayn> how do I install a program on this thing,,,  I downloaded AMSN but I dont know how to install it
[11:04] <ColonelKernel> but still very easy to set up and use
[11:04] <Maikeru> sipayn, you're the one that wanted to go back to windows?
[11:05] <sipayn> yeah
[11:05] <Hikaru79> What repositories are available which have j2sdk1.5?
[11:05] <sipayn> it's just cause I'm not familiar enough with this right now,, I dont know how to install programs or anything
[11:05] <tarheelcoxn> ColonelKernel: you should've used 'ColonelSanders'
[11:05] <Maikeru> !lart sipayn
[11:05] <ColonelKernel> no way
[11:05] <ColonelKernel> Linux p4ht 2.6.14-rc5-ck1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Oct 22 04:17:28 PDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:05] <adoyretsamon> sipayn, windows does have its good points, but the 80,000 bad ones keep me away...
[11:06] <gach> i got a question regarding bttv
[11:06] <sipayn> yeah I know what you mean,, but I'm not very familiar with this
[11:06] <funkyHat> adoyretsamon, what are the good ones? ;)
[11:06] <ColonelKernel> and gyach works well except for those animated smileys
[11:06] <gach> anybody knows about that?
[11:06] <Maikeru> only good thing about it is the fact that people make games for it
[11:06] <philipp> is here somebody who can help me with my network problem
[11:06] <Maikeru> So get familiar with it
[11:06] <Maikeru> it takes time
[11:06] <Maikeru> but yeah
[11:06] <Maikeru> it's great afterwards
[11:06] <Maikeru> so enjoy
[11:06] <gnomefreak> Hikaru79,  synaptic doesnt offer 1.5 i think its 1.4 and you nee dmulti universe to get that unless you download jave from sunjave.com
[11:06] <adoyretsamon> er, well  come to think of it.. none
[11:06] <gach> hell
[11:06] <confrey> anybody using gEDA?
[11:06] <gach> o
[11:06] <ColonelKernel> gyach-enhanced I mean
[11:06] <adoyretsamon> ubuntu is sweet
[11:06] <sipayn> well can you guide me through installing one program
[11:06] <Azalyn> wow... stuff moves fast in here.. heh
[11:06] <gach> anybody knows how to overrride autodetection on bttv tuner module?
[11:06] <sipayn> I have AMSN downloaded sitting on my desktop
[11:06] <funkyHat> philipp, most likely yes, just ask your question :)
[11:07] <philipp> is here somebody who can help me with my network problem
[11:07] <philipp> hello all, i have a strange problem getting an ip adress for my ubuntu installation from my isp by dhcp. its a laptop and it worked in my office (an other isp). but not at home.
[11:07] <funkyHat> !info amsn
[11:07] <Hikaru79> gnomefreak, there are repositories that do offer it, I'm sure of it. I used to have one in my sources.lust .
[11:07] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[11:07] <Hikaru79> *list
[11:07] <zdennis> damnit, i got the nvidia logo to pop up, then x quit!
[11:07] <adoyretsamon> gach, you can mod the files in /etc/ ...
[11:07] <funkyHat> sipayn, amsn is available through synaptic
[11:07] <ssam> sipayn, hi
[11:07] <gach> what files?
[11:07] <sipayn> oh really,,
[11:07] <Maikeru> Just use GAIM
[11:07] <sipayn> one sec
[11:07] <kala21> hi
[11:07] <funkyHat> sipayn, so you don't need to download it, the installer program will do that for you
[11:07] <gach> maikeru gaims sucks hard
[11:07] <ssam> sipayn, you are best off installing stuff using a package manager
[11:07] <Maikeru> gach: pfft
[11:07] <funkyHat> sipayn, you do need to enable universe repositories first though
[11:07] <sipayn> ohh,, nice nice,, I know how to do it thatt way
[11:07] <kala21> ubuntu super
[11:08] <sipayn> how do I do that
[11:08] <gach> maikeru its good for use with multiple networs
[11:08] <funkyHat> !repositories
[11:08] <ubotu> I guess sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[11:08] <kala21> thank you south africa
[11:08] <funkyHat> ^like that
[11:08] <Maikeru> yeah, like me
[11:08] <ssam> sipayn, at the bottom of the applications menu there is add applications
[11:08] <Azalyn> msn in tcl?
[11:08] <Maikeru> I have a lot of SNs
[11:08] <Azalyn> o_O
[11:08] <Azalyn> the hell
[11:08] <gach> maikeru but in the implementation of the msn protocol and features
[11:08] <philipp> funkyHat, it seems not
[11:08] <gnomefreak> gach gaim is the best instant messenger likux has other than for irc
[11:08] <Maikeru> Yeah
[11:08] <Maikeru> and the best one windows has to offer
[11:08] <Maikeru> IMHO
[11:08] <Maikeru> ;)
[11:08] <gnomefreak> but thats opionion
[11:08] <gach> gnomefreak i agree that its a good multi protocol messenger
[11:09] <confrey> hi people, I can't use gEDA with my  new ubuntu breezy, can anybody help me?
[11:09] <philipp> i have a strange problem getting an ip adress for my ubuntu installation from my isp by dhcp. its a laptop and it worked in my office (an other isp). but not at home.
[11:09] <gach> but really its not that good on implementin the msn protocol fetuares
[11:09] <Azalyn> well, wasn't the plugin rewritten recently?
[11:09] <jesi> can anyone help me get sound in mplayer?  i use 5.04 hoary
[11:09] <Azalyn> the msn plugin for gaim
[11:09] <Azalyn> ?
[11:09] <zephir> hey guys, anyone here who can help me with a problem w/ libpthread.so.0?
[11:10] <adoyretsamon> Azalyn, its there by default in gaim
[11:10] <Azalyn> yes i know..
[11:10] <jesi> can anyone help me get sound in mplayer?  i use 5.04 hoary and sound works everywhere else
[11:10] <Pa_l> someone know where i can find a working realplayer for ubuntu?
[11:11] <Halai> starscalling: mind if i bug you again?
[11:11] <achilles> Hi I have mounted a NFS directories. When I create a file from the terminal it iinherits the group from the directory. when I ceate a file in the same diectory via gnome, it has the group of the user and not the directory. whee could the ero be?
[11:11] <Azalyn> but gach said the implementation sucks, i'd have thought that with opensource it would be difficult for people to outdo eachother when it comes to a protocol like that.
[11:11] <starscalling> wazzup Halai
[11:11] <Azalyn> if this amsn does things better, then why haven't the gaim people looked at the code, and fixed the problems in gaim's msn plugin?
[11:12] <blrich> hi, can anyone help? i'm using "breezy" from a fresh cd install, and I was wondering if anyone knew of any guides or extra repositories for it - still trying to get flock, sun-jdk/jre, and other packages
[11:12] <sipayn> ok cool so I got AMSN installed
[11:12] <sipayn> another question
[11:12] <sipayn> how do I access files from my cd-rom
[11:12] <Rieger> starscalling: rebooted a couple of times then i got the install working:p got to a menu where I chose the keyboard layout, norwegian, english etc.. that what u meant?
[11:13] <Rieger> said nothing about number of keys etc
[11:13] <zephir> guys, this program is looking for libpthread.so.0, i found a libpthread.so in /usr/lib
[11:13] <starscalling> ah
[11:13] <Halai> starscalling: well, VLC media player plays the file but gives no sound, and beep media player is giving me an error msg saying that my audio soundcard is either not configured properly, my output plugin is not blocked and somethinge lse.
[11:13] <zephir> when I ln -s it to so.0 I get invalid ELF signature
[11:13] <starscalling> i c Rieger yeah thats what i was talking about...
[11:13] <zephir> I am sitting on an opteron box
[11:13] <zephir> amd64 version of ubuntu
[11:13] <starscalling> perhaps one of the kind guru's here can help more !_!
[11:13] <Tachyon> I'm getting an error "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file"  Where do I find the Xauthorization file and how do I make it so that it can be copied again?
[11:13] <Rieger> starscalling: 99% sure i selected the same choice on the last install :(
[11:13] <Maikeru> ugh
[11:13] <funkyHat> sipayn, places > computer > CD-ROM Drive?
[11:13] <sipayn> can someone tell me how I access my cd-rom from ubuntu?
[11:13] <Maikeru> I gotta install a new kernel
[11:13] <Efwis> can anyone help me get my webcam operating, I installed the drivers but the system isn't detecting it
[11:14] <sipayn> oh,, one sec
[11:14] <jchillerup> sipayn, /media/cdrom
[11:14] <Maikeru> supported by netraverse
[11:14] <Maikeru> that's rather annoying
[11:14] <Maikeru> (netraverse = win4lin)
[11:14] <sazwerx> how to setup mouse, so i can scroll horizontally?
[11:14] <Halai> i went through the steps of that website that i got off you about the codecs. i figured that had been the issue.
[11:14] <sipayn> weird
[11:14] <steffenstrobel> hi everybody, i installed the new ubuntu 5.10 today on my dell notebook. i resized the old ntfs win xp pro partition and added the linux partitions, installed grub into the mbr, linxu boots fine windows too but only ONCE! when i chose reboot under windows grub doesn't load again??? i have to reinstall grub to get it working again... what i windows xp doing with grub? thanks!
[11:14] <sipayn> all this stuff works now,, haha
[11:14] <sipayn> I was doing this before
[11:14] <Halai> sazwerx:  are you wanting to install the side mouse buttons ?
[11:15] <netstar> steffenstrobel, that is really weird
[11:16] <GreatBriton> i'm trying to install a wifi card in breezy, i'm following the wiki's guide, but i'm stuck at a particular point (PM me)
[11:16] <netstar> unless you were running some anti-virus software which saw GRUB as a virus and then wiped the MBR.
[11:16] <GreatBriton> if you can help
[11:16] <netstar> I recommend removing windows completely.
[11:16] <netstar> And buy a console if you rely on games.
[11:16] <sazwerx> Halai, my mouse has a scroll ball, when i used XP, i can scroll horizontally, and how do i setuo in ubuntu so i can scroll horizontally to?
[11:16] <Azalyn> hehe.. doesn't MS have their own antivirus now?
[11:16] <zephir> yep in vista
[11:16] <Azalyn> I wouldn't be surprised if they did something like that
[11:17] <steffenstrobel> netstar: :) it's not my machine, it is a test machine for a complete linux migration of about 25 pcs....
[11:17] <Azalyn> i thought they had one out now?
[11:17] <Azalyn> along with that anti spyware app
[11:17] <darius_> Anyone here familiar with the Atheros wifi problem on the HP nc6000?  I'm unable to decipher how anyone has solved this.
[11:17] <Azalyn> which you can install in xp
[11:17] <zephir> hmm not sure, it might scan for aparticular virus tho
[11:17] <zephir> thres free antivirus software tho
[11:17] <zephir> and its really good
[11:17] <zephir> avg antivirus?
[11:17] <zephir> search on download.com
[11:17] <steffenstrobel> i even fixed the partition order because windows sometimes changes it if it is not in drive order....
[11:17] <netstar> AVG is good
[11:17] <starscalling> Halai gimme a little while..
[11:18] <funkyHat> avast! antivirus
[11:18] <starscalling> let me see what i found..
[11:18] <starscalling> what kind of soundcard are you using
[11:18] <Azalyn> hehe
[11:18] <steffenstrobel> grub goes as far as loading stage 1.5 and then the dell reboots....
[11:18] <Halai> starscalling: thanks mate.
[11:18] <Azalyn> my employers think lowly of avg because they only release updates every 15 days for the free version.
[11:18] <blrich> anyone know how to get breezy-extras repositories?
[11:18] <Halai> starscalling: hmm...it's an onboard card. lemme look up which one it is.
[11:19] <Efwis> thats odd, my AVG free updates everyday
[11:19] <funkyHat> your employers shouldn't be using the free version Azalyn ;)
[11:19] <Halai> starscalling: btw, it's the same for vdo.
[11:19] <frank> Azalyn: really? only every 15 days? I didn't know that
[11:19] <Azalyn> well that's what they told me.
[11:19] <funkyHat> well, for business purposes anyway
[11:19] <Azalyn> funkyHat: hehe, that's not the worst of it. :P
[11:19] <funkyHat> Azalyn, lol
[11:19] <zephir> frank_b whats your last name
[11:20] <Azalyn> They pretty much have pirated copies of everything.
[11:20] <frank_b> anyone knows where can one get multimedia codecs? (ubuntu backports was closed)
[11:20] <zephir> batschulat?
[11:20] <Azalyn> They're a small business so they're below the radar it seems.
[11:20] <rendo> Praise allah.
[11:20] <Efwis> Azalyn, I work in the spyware forums, we are close with all the av companies, I'll have to talk to one on Monday and find out this 15 day claim, they even mention on their website they do updates daily
[11:20] <rendo> Support when I need it :b
[11:21] <frank_b> zephir, my nick's last name ("B"(?
[11:21] <zephir> sorry I thought you were one guy from work I know, he goes by frankB
[11:21] <frank_b> zephir, ah. ok... no, I'm from portugal :)
[11:22] <Azalyn> my enemy?
[11:22] <zephir> ah he is from germany
[11:22] <Azalyn> o.O
[11:22] <zephir> sorry
[11:22] <jesi> can anyone help me get sound in mplayer?  i use 5.04 hoary and sound works everywhere else
[11:22] <Halai> starscalling: how do i paste a url here without getting booted. heh.
[11:22] <netstar> jesi
[11:22] <Halai> i suppose i really should register.
[11:22] <netstar> try
[11:22] <netstar> mplayer -Dhw:0 <whatever>
[11:22] <Azalyn> jesi: that's odd.. maybe it's not using the right -ao opton.
[11:22] <frank_b> anyone knows where one can get multimedia codecs? (ubuntu backports was closed)
[11:22] <Azalyn> option**
[11:22] <hramrach> jesi: what does it say when it starts?
[11:22] <starscalling> lol
[11:23] <jesi> well im using the firefox plugin
[11:23] <starscalling> Halai not totally sure... try breaking it up?
[11:23] <hramrach> jesi: does it say it cannot open audio?
[11:23] <jesi> it loads up fine
[11:23] <jesi> nope
[11:23] <Halai> it won't let me query you. wait up. i'll go register.
[11:23] <Azalyn> jesi: does it work outside of firefox?
[11:23] <starscalling> or /notice nick
[11:23] <starscalling> ah ok
[11:23] <Azalyn> or is it just with the plugin that audio doesn't work?
[11:23] <hramrach> jesi: try to download the file and open it outside firefox
[11:23] <Halai> notice/query won't let me as a non registered user.
[11:23] <_iGadget_> whoah
[11:23] <_iGadget_> off 2 bed
[11:24] <jesi> lemme try
[11:24] <Halai> starscalling : soyousa . com/ products/ proddesc.php?id=37 , that's the board/soundcard i got.
[11:24] <hramrach> jesi: if you right click the plugin it offers to save the file
[11:24] <Halai> just join the pieces together.
[11:24] <_iGadget_> c ya'll later
[11:24] <_iGadget_> g'night & stuff
[11:24] <jesi> [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource
[11:24] <jesi> thats the error
[11:25] <hramrach> jesi: try -ao esd
[11:25] <jesi> [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[11:25] <jesi> AO: [null]  44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bps)
[11:25] <hramrach> maplyer -ao esd <yourfile>
[11:25] <syiron> how can i load sound driver?
[11:25] <hramrach> syiron: with modprobe :)
[11:25] <jesi> Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[11:25] <jesi> Audio: no sound
[11:25] <jesi> I think i use alsa
[11:26] <hramrach> jesi: it does oss simulation
[11:26] <syiron> wait hramrach .
[11:26] <starscalling> Halai try opeining a terminal
[11:26] <syiron> what the full command?
[11:26] <starscalling> then typing in "  lspci  "
[11:26] <syiron> modprobe and ..
[11:26] <starscalling> no quotes :P
[11:26] <hramrach> syiron: you have to know what driver
[11:26] <jesi> anything else to try?  should i reboot?
[11:27] <hramrach> jesi: rebooting probably won't help
[11:27] <jesi> i havent reboot since install
[11:27] <syiron> hramrach; 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
[11:27] <hramrach> jesi: did you try the -ao option
[11:27] <jesi> ya
[11:27] <jesi> Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[11:27] <jesi> Audio: no sound
[11:27] <jesi> thats with ao
[11:27] <bluefoxicy> bah
[11:27] <bluefoxicy> blanking a CDRW requires me to use the text console
[11:27] <hramrach> jesi: are you running gnome
[11:27] <bluefoxicy> (it must be umounted, not ejected)
[11:27] <jesi> yes
[11:28] <syiron> starscalling; 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
[11:28] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, can't gnome baker do that?
[11:28] <starscalling> o.O
[11:28] <Azalyn> hm..
[11:28] <prower> Hello everyone :> I've just installed PostgreSQL 8, but I can't find reference anywhere to the password for the default postgres account...anyone know what that might be?
[11:28] <hramrach> jesi: esd should work, that's weird
[11:29] <starscalling> syiron are you having sound problems too?
[11:29] <starscalling> i cheated to get some of my issues fixed..
[11:29] <syiron> yes.. i`m install xmms using apt-get install xmms..
[11:29] <starscalling> i looked at what worked on the last distro and tried to apply
[11:29] <darius_> prower: there probably is none
[11:29] <syiron> when i trying to play xmms it hung..
[11:29] <starscalling> oic
[11:29] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  umount stuff for you?
[11:29] <starscalling> try running it from a terminal
[11:30] <Azalyn> I used to have a problem like that.. I could use sound but sometimes mozilla would do something that would end up using the sound permenantly
[11:30] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, no, blank CDRWs
[11:30] <darius_> prower: su to the postgres user .. type: psql -d template1 ... and alter user postgres with password '<mypassword>'
[11:30] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  i'm looking at basic ubuntu-included main apps
[11:30] <Pa_l> a
[11:30] <bjorn> hello everybody =) i'm having an internet problem
[11:30] <Azalyn> and then no other app could access it
[11:30] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat: the CDRW is mounted.
[11:30] <Azalyn> :\
[11:30] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat: inserting it makes gnome-vfs and hal work together to mounti t and give you the option to eject it.
[11:30] <Azalyn> i'd always have to kill mozilla
[11:30] <syiron> starscalling; how?
[11:30] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, ok, disk mounter panel applet
[11:30] <Azalyn> to get it working
[11:30] <jesi> hramrach: why would the device be busy to begin with?
[11:30] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  disk mounter applet says "view" or "eject"
[11:30] <hramrach> jesi: I cannot think of anything else, and cannot try myself now
[11:30] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, or does that just eject? damn
[11:30] <Azalyn> i used to wonder if there was a command to override mozilla's use of sound
[11:30] <Halai> sorry bro. heh wife bugging me to do laundry
[11:30] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  it allows you to umount or eject a flash drive :)
[11:30] <hramrach> jesi: because the other programs do use it
[11:30] <Azalyn> like to force it to release the sound device
[11:31] <starscalling> applications > accessories > terminal
[11:31] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, eject a flash drive :D cool
[11:31] <hramrach> jesi: ie the esd daemon
[11:31] <prower> darius_: Oh, okay...thanks, I'll try that
[11:31] <Rieger> starscalling: same result after this second install.. no response from the keyboard at the login-screen:(
[11:31] <Halai> i just pasted you the result of lspci
[11:31] <jesi> hramrach: do i need to tweak the conf file?
[11:31] <starscalling> Rieger :/
[11:31] <starscalling> i dont know what to tell ya
[11:31] <jesi> hramrach: i used apt-get default install
[11:31] <darius_> prower: no prob - I love postgres
[11:32] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  yeah, usb stick :P
[11:32] <funkyHat> i know :P
[11:32] <hramrach> jesi: if you find the correct ao option you can put it into the config file
[11:32] <jesi> ok
[11:32] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat: actually i think it lets you unmount it, and ejects it automatically so you can't re-mount it until you pull it out and plug it back in
[11:32] <jesi> ill try reboot quick see if it frees up the sound driver or something
[11:32] <syiron> hramrach; how can i  make my sound prefect now? im want using xmms.
[11:33] <jesi> hramrach:  ty for the help  :)
[11:33] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, yeah, it was just the image of 'ejecting' that got me :P
[11:33] <prower> darius_: Hmm...I did that and received no errors, but I still can't seem to use the password I chose in pgadmin3 :>
[11:33] <bluefoxicy> Mem:   1036212k total,   996724k used,    39488k free,        8k buffers
[11:33] <bluefoxicy> Swap:  2104472k total,   566180k used,  1538292k free,   190596k cached
[11:33] <Halai> starscalling: its picked up the correct card
[11:33] <hramrach> syiron: I do not use nVidia hardware, i know nothing about that. Sorry
[11:33] <bluefoxicy> what the hell is this system doing
[11:33] <darius_> prower: fortunately for you.. I just installed PostgreSQL and pgadmin3 on this laptop last night :)
[11:34] <syiron> oh.. i`m using it.
[11:34] <syiron> nvm.
[11:34] <darius_> prower: what host are you trying to connect to through pgadmin3?
[11:34] <starscalling> ok
[11:34] <starscalling> try the stuff on that link there
[11:34] <starscalling> make sure the sound volume is up
[11:34] <starscalling> no optical devices checked
[11:34] <prower> darius_: Oh, I'm putting it in as localhost
[11:34] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, at a guess, beagle
[11:34] <starscalling> that it doesnt work if you run from root
[11:34] <darius_> prower: that's fine
[11:34] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  I don't have beagle
[11:34] <starscalling> [ie sudo the app] 
[11:34] <funkyHat> not that then :P
[11:35] <starscalling> syiron
[11:35] <funkyHat> i don't have beagle any more ;)
[11:35] <starscalling> try doing this
[11:35] <Halai> starscalling: i tried the sudo totem and then pointed to an mp3, i get this, [There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins] 
[11:35] <starscalling> click on terminal you ran in
[11:35] <syiron> libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:35] <syiron> Message: device: default
[11:35] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  it must be all the uptime.
[11:35] <starscalling> and push ctrl+c to kill ap
[11:35] <bluefoxicy>  17:32:33 up 43 days,  4:01,  5 users,  load average: 3.62, 2.69, 1.50
[11:35] <zblach> ubotu, tell me about java
[11:35] <funkyHat> shouldn't be
[11:35] <funkyHat> could be firefox though
[11:35] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  from having uptime inside breezy-devel
[11:35] <starscalling> the go to applications > system tools > system monitor
[11:35] <starscalling> kill any xmms processes
[11:35] <starscalling> see if starting after that helps
[11:35] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat: I replaced a lot of .so files during breezy's devel cycle, which when reloaded get 2 copies in memory?  :)
[11:36] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, ahh
[11:36] <prower> darius_: Hmm...maybe I got the syntax for changing the password wrong
[11:36] <funkyHat> lol
[11:36] <syiron> yes. i have kill
[11:36] <bluefoxicy> funkyHat:  wait that's stupid, don't so',s get mmap()'d so they count as disk cache?
[11:36] <prower> Or maybe I should just make a new user for the database anyway :>
[11:36] <syiron> starscalling; that is my problem now..
[11:36] <everton137> Hi, I am using a dialup connection and I am having some problems. I can not open ANY http homepage, but I can use other protocols...
[11:36] <everton137> Can someone help me, please?
[11:37] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, don't ask me! LoL
[11:37] <starscalling> perfect Halai
[11:37] <starscalling> now you just need codecs
[11:37] <starscalling> do the page the bot sent you before
[11:37] <Halai> i thought that page earlier i went through that already
[11:37] <starscalling> you too syiron ?
[11:37] <starscalling> codecs?
[11:37] <starscalling> make sure Halai and
[11:38] <syiron> sorry ..
[11:38] <FireCat> everton137: It almost sounds as if it might be firewalled out
[11:38] <everton137> Hi, I am using a dialup connection and I am having some problems. I can not open ANY http homepage, but I can use other protocols... Can someone help me, please?
[11:38] <hramrach> Tachyon: I got my touchpad working. But I am on Debian right now, and it was not very clean :S
[11:38] <starscalling> i found another page on it too
[11:38] <starscalling> ill find that momentarraly
[11:38] <starscalling> syiron  i apologize im a little split
[11:38] <starscalling> what was the exact problem currently now
[11:38] <PatrikJohansson> how do i select in synaptic so it  "Shows development/Unsatable" version of packets, im loocking for the latest version of wine...
[11:38] <funkyHat> bluefoxicy, i never read rute, (apart from individual sections for reference), i just pick stuff up as i need to know it. and to date i haven't had to know about the memory storage behaviour of .so's ;)
[11:38] <Halai> i don't know if this is relevant, but in terminal when i did, sudo totem, this pasted along with it but launched totem anyway. (totem:12254): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[11:38] <Halai> (totem:12254): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[11:38] <Halai> ** Message: don't know how to handle application/x-id3
[11:38] <FireCat> everton137: You might want to try firestarter and see if it tells you what the problem is
[11:38] <starscalling> still hangs? or wont play the file
[11:38] <everton137> Firecat: yeap, I called the server helper and they said me that. how can I veryfy that?
[11:38] <Tachyon> hramrach: Actually, funny you mention that.  I got mine working too--I managed to bork my xorg.conf file, but after fixing it, I came away with a fixed touchpad _and_ a better grip of working with the CLI. :D
[11:38] <funkyHat> *rute, or any other big manual type thing
[11:39] <starscalling> well im sure it means something Halai but i dont know what
[11:39] <starscalling> and instead of pasting large in chan
[11:39] <everton137> Firecat: firestarter?
[11:39] <Tachyon> hramrach: I'm now trying to bludgeon my printer connected to my XP machine into working with Ubuntu; my last major hurdle before I can switch to using Ubuntu full time.
[11:39] <starscalling> !paste
[11:39] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:39] <starscalling> :)
[11:39] <PatrikJohansson> how do i select in synaptic so it  "Shows development/Unsatable" version of packets??, im loocking for the latest version of wine...
[11:39] <FireCat> everton137: It is a graphical firewall configurator, that is pretty simple to use
[11:39] <everton137> Firecat: let me see if I have ot here
[11:40] <Halai> oh ok. my bad.
[11:40] <hramrach> Tachyon: I never got that working because I refused to put my Windows password into a config file
[11:40] <liz4rd> Is there anyway to install ubuntu 5.10 with the 2.6.12 or w/e kernel off the bat? liek a say a cammand to put in at the boot: screen ??????
[11:40] <Tachyon> hramrach: Meh, the user on our XP machine doesn't have a password. . . .
[11:41] <FireCat> everton137: It is in universe
[11:41] <Halai> starscalling: so you think it's only a codecs issue?
[11:41] <hramrach> Tachyon: then you probably cannot cannect to the box as that user
[11:41] <Tachyon> hramrach: I think it isn't connecting to the printer properly.
[11:41] <starscalling> yeah
[11:41] <Tachyon> hramrach: Yeah, so I created another user account called 'guest' with password of 'guest'
[11:41] <starscalling> i think so Halai let me find this thing..
[11:41] <everton137> Firecat: I dont have it, and I can not install, since I've tried apt-get insall and no response :(
[11:41] <Halai> okay
[11:41] <everton137> what should I do?
[11:42] <everton137> what haha, which dimension? :P
[11:42] <FireCat> everton137: bummer
[11:42] <RHyS> ah..
[11:42] <RHyS> ndiswrapper hates me
[11:42] <hramrach> Tachyon: you should configure cups to use that - somehow. I never tried because I do not like saving the password in cups config.
[11:42] <Linad> good evening guys
[11:42] <everton137> Firecat: do you know some why to check it out in the comand line?
[11:42] <RHyS> anyone know anything about getting a DWL-650 wireless card to work?
[11:42] <StarKruzr> hahahahah we just scored again
[11:43] <StarKruzr> I knew this BYU game was going to be a slaighter
[11:43] <StarKruzr> slaughter even
[11:43] <FireCat> everton137: No, I've been using firestarter for too long
[11:43] <everton137> Firecat: ok, thanks
[11:43] <Halai> starscalling: seems to be right. i just tried an audio cd and that seems to play fine.
[11:43] <spudse> how can I unzip a .rar archive ?
[11:44] <Tachyon> hramrach: Do you know a guide that will walk me through configuring CUPS?
[11:44] <starscalling> perfect Halai
[11:44] <starscalling> thats the best we could have hoped for :)
[11:44] <starscalling> let me find this still...
[11:44] <__2> Someone know how to install ntfs driver ?
[11:44] <__2> !ntfs
[11:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:44] <Halai> im still having trouble with other media formats. so i guess will have to figure out mp3/mpg/avi etc. thanks for all your help starscalling, much appreciated.
[11:44] <esac_> i have a usb drive formatted as ext3. when i mount it, the files belong to a different user, and my other users can't access them. is there a way to mount it to so everybody can access them, or do i have to chown -R everytime ?
[11:45] <hramrach> Tachyon: I used to configure it through the web interface. But that is disabled on Ubuntu.
[11:45] <starscalling> BINGO!!! i found it Halai ~~~
[11:45] <sven> evening, can anyone help me with the installation of MPlayer? I followed the howto, I have a newer version, everything works untill I have to execute make which isn't there :(
[11:45] <starscalling> http://ww w.ubuntu guide.org/#codecs
[11:45] <starscalling> <3
[11:46] <Halai> starscalling: lemme give it a try. thanks a lot.
[11:46] <starscalling> just remember to not bother with the win32 if you did that already :)
[11:46] <starscalling> np
[11:46] <FireCat> everton137: Try iptables -L
[11:46] <Rieger> anyone else having trouble with a dead keyboard after the ubuntuinstall?:/
[11:46] <jesi> hramrach: i can get sound in xmms and totem... any way to transfer those settings to mplayer?
[11:47] <everton137> Firecat: I did already, wanna see the output, where can I send it in this channel?
[11:47] <johnsie2> How do I mount a Samba server?
[11:47] <hramrach> jesi: how did you get it in there?
[11:47] <__2> how nice, ntfs come with 5.10
[11:47] <everton137> Firecat: every thing looks ok with iptables
[11:47] <starscalling> syiron did you ever get sound working?
[11:47] <hramrach> ie wt output plugin did you select?
[11:47] <johnsie2> !samba
[11:48] <ubotu> [samba]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[11:48] <jesi> hramrach: get what? i got them from the repos
[11:48] <everton137> Firecat: there is one strabge thing in /var/log/syslog....
[11:48] <starscalling> !tell everton137 about paste
[11:48] <hramrach> jesi: there should be some configuration in xmms
[11:48] <johnsie2> just wanna say... who ever created ubotus was a genius
[11:48] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: pong
[11:48] <everton137> Firecat: Oct 22 17:24:41 localhost pppd[12057] : Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP
[11:48] <sven> evening, can anyone help me with the installation of MPlayer? I followed the howto, I have a newer version, everything works untill I have to execute make which isn't there :(
[11:48] <hramrach> jesi: and there you should be able to to see what it uses for sound
[11:49] <carlkof> hi
[11:49] <rafaelsauce> hi. I need to get Gub and Ubuntu off my pc without rendering my partitions unreadable to Windo$ (need HD space, don't have time to learn a new OS right now). can anyone help or is there a better room to ask?
[11:49] <crimsun> sven: does the version in multiverse not work?
[11:49] <morale> has ubuntu 5.10 become much more stable on amd64? alot of binaries from what i remember have been missing dependencies in the past
[11:49] <everton137> starscalling: in a debian room we have a flood channel
[11:49] <hramrach> sven: install make :)
[11:49] <FireCat> everton137: I don't know how to fix it
[11:49] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, still wierd issues with gstreamer latencies
[11:49] <starscalling> yes
[11:49] <sven> hramrach, is it really that easy ?
[11:49] <starscalling> you can use the same channel everton137
[11:49] <starscalling> just ask someone to join to look :)
[11:49] <everton137> Firecat: ok, thanks anyway
[11:49] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: with your onboard/audigy1? I'm only here for a few minutes...
[11:49] <FireCat> morale: I gave up on AMD64, and am running x86 on mine
[11:49] <starscalling> !paste
[11:49] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:49] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, lag not existant in mplayer or vlc, but tvtime and totem-gstreamer/xine is unreal
[11:49] <hramrach> sven: no, you will probably need gcc and a bunch of libraries
[11:50] <starscalling> thats what it should have said !_!
[11:50] <everton137> starscalling: Ok, if I need it, I will do there ;)
[11:50] <sven> crimsun, the package manager gave me that error but I don't know how to enable the multiverse (I'm quite new to linux so some options are kinda new to me)
[11:50] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, so I'm guessing it's gstreamer / totem.
[11:50] <sven> hramrach: I installed all of them
[11:50] <sven> hramrach: The compilation goes good
[11:50] <morale> FireCat, does it work much better? it is probably slower having to emulate 32-bit binaries isnt it?
[11:50] <everton137> If some one discover, just tell me, BRB
[11:50] <everton137> thanks
[11:50] <crimsun> sven: you don't need to compile mplayer. Just enable the multiverse repository and install mplayer for your architecture. What cpu are you using?
[11:50] <sven> hramrach: I'm following the howto which is for an older version of MPlayer
[11:50] <Halai> lame question, what is apt-get? a non-gui version of synaptic?
[11:50] <Seveas> Halai, indeed
[11:50] <sven> crimsun: PIV Northwood
[11:51] <jesi> hramrach: output_plugin=/usr/lib/xmms/Output/libesdout.so
[11:51] <Halai> Seveas: : danke.
[11:51] <jesi> use_alt_audio_device=FALSE
[11:51] <jesi> alt_audio_device=/dev/dsp
[11:51] <Seveas> keine dank
[11:51] <crimsun> sven: enable multiverse and install mplayer-custom
[11:51] <gnomefreak> apt-get is easier to use sometimes :)
[11:51] <hramrach> jesi: then it is using esd
[11:51] <FireCat> morale: Mine is very fast, subjectively just as fast as the amd64. It does boot faster with x86 I gan tell you that
[11:51] <crimsun> !tell sven about repos
[11:51] <jesi> hmm
[11:51] <hramrach> jesi: mplayer should work with -ao esd
[11:51] <Acill> I need some help finding out how to get all my repositories working.
[11:52] <sven> crimsun: thnx, now I can continue my knowledge of linux ;)
[11:52] <sven> or update
[11:52] <Acill> Is there a file I can get to add the proper ones tp the synaptic package manager?
[11:52] <sven> whatever :)
[11:52] <gnomefreak> Acill, what doesnt work?
[11:52] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: which Audio Sink is gstreamer-properties (System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector) set to?
[11:52] <Halai> starscalling: trying those commands. it's giving me another error now.
[11:52] <jesi> hramrach: Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[11:52] <jesi> Audio: no sound
[11:53] <L4m3rSh0t> hi
[11:53] <FireCat> morale: I had problems with amd64 seeming to loose usb keyboards and mice. And QEmu wouldn't work on it for anything
[11:53] <rafaelsauce> once again, could really use help getting ubuntu and grub off my system without damagin it. I'll be back to Ubuntu, I promise.
[11:53] <starscalling> what do you get Halai
[11:53] <rafaelsauce> can anyone help?
[11:53] <rafaelsauce> or tell me where to go?
[11:53] <rafaelsauce> eh?
[11:53] <starscalling> if its small type it if large ill join #flood
[11:53] <jesi> hramrach: Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg]  FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
[11:53] <joevandyk> Just installed breezy.  Doing 'X -query localhost :1' brings up X on VT8, but it's just a blank screen.  How can I get the login prompt?
[11:53] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, alsa, lag is worse when esd is alive. killing it helps, but it's still noticable.
[11:53] <Acill> gnomefreak: Well I edited some changing it to the breezy from the older one and a few are now reporting errors when I open the manager
[11:53] <starscalling> i dont know how rafaelsauce but im sure its in the forums?
[11:53] <L4m3rSh0t> i wanna know if ubuntu is still shipping their installation cd's over the world?
[11:53] <hramrach> jesi: can you paste the output to #flood?
[11:54] <syiron> my problem cannot load device
[11:54] <rafaelsauce> what forums? ubuntu.com?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> Acill,  do you remember the errors your getting?
[11:54] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: try the Custom Sink, and in the dialog box, type: alsasink device=hw:0,0
[11:54] <sven> crimsun: sites don't seem to work, or they're extremely slow
[11:54] <Acill> I can post them
[11:54] <gnomefreak> Acill,  use pastebin please
[11:54] <crimsun> sven: use a different mirror
[11:54] <Acill> it looks like its not finding the places it should
[11:54] <sven> k
[11:54] <jaga_> hola
[11:54] <Halai> starscalling: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d3465
[11:54] <sven> crimsun: I'll google it...
[11:54] <crimsun> L4m3rSh0t: yes, but it will be a bit before yours arrives
[11:54] <Acill> gnomefreak: not sure what that is, I am very new to this
[11:55] <crimsun> sven: just look at wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Acill,  halai just gave the link
[11:55] <r0d> what tool can i use to convert .wav to .mp3?
[11:55] <jesi> hramrach: not familiar with #flood
[11:55] <crimsun> r0d: lame, in multiverse
[11:55] <FireCat> L4m3rSh0t: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[11:55] <r0d> cool thx
 I ordered it about 2weeks ago but nuthin came yet
[11:55] <starscalling> awesome
[11:55] <hramrach> jesi: just join #flood and paste the text there
 thnx
[11:56] <starscalling> halai:
[11:56] <gnomefreak> L4m3rSh0t,  give it time something like 6-8 weeks
[11:56] <crimsun> L4m3rSh0t: about a million other people are complaining about the same thing.
[11:56] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, seems to help marginally.
[11:56] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: then it's the dmix latency
[11:56] <Halai> if i run apt-get update, i get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d3466
[11:56] <cyphase> is there a way to make a key combination execute a custom program?
[11:56] <starscalling>  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  <<<--- do that
[11:56] <starscalling> unmark all sources
[11:56] <Acill> gnomefreak:not working, ask to open a file when i use that link in firefox
[11:56] <starscalling> i e take out the #
[11:56] <Acill> says less is the default
 thnx i know u guyz are too buzy anyway ;)
[11:57] <Halai> starscalling: now what?
[11:57] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, how can I keep esd from starting anyway?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> Acill,  paste the whole message in the text part and put your name about it in name spot then hit send than give us the link to it in here
[11:57] <starscalling> it shows sources Halai
[11:57] <starscalling> uncomment all the links
[11:57] <starscalling> then save
[11:57] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup
[11:57] <starscalling> then
[11:58] <starscalling> sudo apt-get update
[11:58] <Halai> k
[11:58] <rafaelsauce> okay. thank you one person for acknowledging my existence. once. good luck with your lives and all that.
[11:58] <rafaelsauce> peace
[11:58] <Halai> removing the deb uncomments?
[11:58] <mattt> hahaha
[11:58] <Acill> gnomefreek: I am not sure I am understanding you
[11:58] <linuxmonkey> what 2 packages do I need to install in order to be able to compile new programs, i forgot their names...
[11:59] <esac_> linux-headers and build-essential ?
[11:59] <linuxmonkey> thats it
[11:59] <starscalling> wtf
[11:59] <linuxmonkey> thanks
[11:59] <esac_> do i win a prize ?
[11:59] <duncanm> hmmm
[11:59] <duncanm> CJK input is still broken in Breezy ;-(
[11:59] <sven> crimsun: thanks alot, there was a security issue that firefox showed in another screen, that's why the site didn't open, I was at the settings this afternoon but I didn't know what to do, now I do....  Thanks again!!!