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dragonkhhello12:04
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dragonkhI just upgraded to breezy and found that the kernel has an older version of nvidia than the defualt hoary kernel 12:05
Chironlibben: install QT12:05
dragonkhso I had to build 7667 nvidia rather than using my current 7676 12:05
dragonkhis that weird?12:05
Chiron?12:06
humboltdoes anybody know about spamassassin and if it works kmail (without being installed on a smtp or pop?)12:06
dragonkhhumbolt yeah it does 12:06
Firetechdragonkh: 7676 wasn't in hoary afaik..12:06
qatsii cant seem to register12:06
qatsii do /msg nickserv register password, but i cant PM Chiron :s12:06
dragonkhFiretech - it was in my kernel - and afaik I was using defualt hoary kernel 12:06
dragonkhFiretech - unless I upgraded 12:07
dragonkhbut I dont recall12:07
Firetechdragonkh: http://packages.ubuntu.com/nvidia-glx12:07
Chironqatsi: just go into the channel #chiron then12:07
Firetechhoary had 717412:07
dragonkhI was using kernel 2.6.10.512:08
dragonkhand I ahd to build 7676 for that 12:08
humboltdragonkh: what packages do i need? do I have to configure spamassassin rules or does it use some kind of public black lists and some AI to find out what is spam by itself?12:08
Chironlibben: let me try and build + install Kasablanca on my fresh Breezy install12:08
LeeJunFanI don't know what's more annoying about 5.10, having my HD's mount when I don't want them too or having KDE open 7 windows on my desktop. :(12:08
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Chironlibben: just use the debian package they have on their website12:09
humboltLeeJunFan: Yes, I find that anoying to! There must be a way, to turn that off!12:10
Chironlibben: oh, it doesn't work12:10
qatsiChiron: im 3333chiron12:10
dragonkhhumbolt - you need to follow one of the tutorials as its a little hard to explain 12:10
qatsiChiron: sorry, #chiron12:10
dragonkhhumbolt - let me see if I have the one I used12:10
humboltAt least the window opening. I do not bother about the mounting, in fact, that's what I want12:10
LeeJunFanhumbolt: I hope so, I've been fighting it for the last few hours. And even though I have noauto in fstab entries they still get mounted, ignoring all my mount options.12:10
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LeeJunFanhumbolt: I wouldn't mind the automounting too much if it would at least use my uid= and mask options.12:11
LeeJunFanhumbolt: but the windows definately have to go - especially when they sometimes seem to open before the mounting is done and open to non existing dirs.12:12
Firetechdragonkh: so you built the nvidia driver yourself?12:12
humboltDoes anybody know why kde so often does not perform my shutdown/logout request? And why since breezy I get a message, that something can not talk to klauncher on shutdown. this shows up, after the screen was already blanked!12:12
dragonkhFiretech - I got the drivers from the nvidia site and ran the installer12:13
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dragonkhFiretech - but just now after ug to breezy - I was told I had an x module with a different version to the kernel 12:14
marsWhat schould i write in apt-get to downloat qt 3 ?12:14
dragonkhso I had ot build a 7667 to make it work 12:14
dragonkhanyway - nevermind 12:14
dragonkhWhy when I boot up now does it hang after checking battery ?12:15
mars!tell mars about respo12:15
marsCan someone write it for me?12:16
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kairu0hey all12:17
humboltDoes anybody get some wired stuff on KDE logout with breezy?12:18
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Firetechdragonkh: yeah. the nvidia-installer installed that module. Unninstall the driver installed by the nvidia-installer (add --uninstall after the command) then install nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules for your kernel12:18
dragonkhhumbolt - http://support.real-time.com/open-source/spamassassin/kmail.html12:19
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Firetechdragonkh: sudo apt-get nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-386 for example12:19
dragonkhFiretech - you talkig anout why it hangs onm boot ?12:19
dragonkhFiretech - or my nvidia ?12:19
Firetechdragonkh: no, the module version error12:19
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dragonkhFiretech - I fixed that by installing the older version 12:19
Firetech(k)ubuntu has a prebuilt version of the nvidia driver, you should use that instead of installing your own one...12:20
dragonkhFiretech - oh I see12:20
dragonkhFiretech - well the how to on the ubuntu forum says to dl and install the official one12:21
dragonkhFiretech - anyhow it works - so its fine with me 12:21
Firetechthere's a how to on how to do that, it doesn't tell you TO do so.12:21
dragonkhFiretech - I just want to make it boot now12:21
Firetechyeye :P12:22
dragonkhwhy wont the damn thing boot 12:22
dragonkhis it a bug ?12:22
dragonkhin my config perhaps ?12:22
dragonkhthe other machine booted breezy no problem 12:22
dragonkhthis one hangs on boot12:22
dragonkhand I ahve to manually startx12:22
dragonkhyou know I just searched the forums and found several postings with my symptoms -  they say - I u/g to breezy - it hangs on boot and the nvidia drivers dont work - im going back to hoary - hahahha !!12:24
kairu0i'm thinking about moving to kde because xfce hasnt been updated since may12:24
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_mars!tell mars respo12:27
dragonkh!tell dragonkh respo12:27
dragonkhwhat ?12:28
_marsdragonkh: write please !tell _mars about repositories12:30
dragonkh!tell _mars about repositories12:31
_marsThanks12:31
dragonkhnp 12:31
zynhmmm12:33
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JustinSg'day all . how would KUbuntu be as a web/ftp/samba/nfs server?12:35
=== JustinS I'm leaving Gentoo behind because of the time it takes to compile everything ..
_manveruJustinS: i have kubuntu in use as samba, ftp and web-server atm12:36
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_manverubut i don't think you would use it on a large scale12:36
JustinSIt'll be running about 5-10 websites .. all family sites, nothing big ..12:37
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_manveruwhy do you want kde on a server?12:37
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JustinS_manveru: Not really but it's not a big deal either way ..12:38
JustinSI had kde on it with Gentoo this last go around .. (MySQL got a serious upgrade and messed a LOT of things up so I'm moving on).12:38
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JustinSI see a server method on the kubuntu disc .. minimal .. 12:39
_manveruwell, if you want to host some page, i don't think it will be any problem12:39
_manveruexactly12:39
zynthe ubuntu team did release ubuntu server12:39
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_manveruthat's the one without X1112:39
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_manveruhe says he wants kubuntu :)12:39
JustinSI like the ability to use X if I want to though .. I'm not good enough in cli to go totally with out I think ..12:40
zynso install kubuntu, and then apt-get install ubuntu-server or some voodoo like that12:40
JustinSThat'll work .. 12:40
zynor install ubuntu server, and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop...12:40
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zynwhatever stirs your kool-aid12:40
_mars!tell _mars about qt12:40
zyn:)12:40
zyn_mars: Qt rocks :)12:41
_manveruhttp://lwn.net/Articles/156309/12:41
_marsI need it to deco12:41
_marsand i need to find lib i have to downlads12:41
JustinSThe nice thing is it's an old box so "everything" should work right off .. I hope .. (Needs  a bios flash though)12:41
zyndeco?12:41
_marswindow decoration12:41
_marsi was using crystal in hoary12:41
_marsbut it doesent work in breezy12:42
zynahh... need to rebuild it probably12:42
_marsI wrote to author12:42
_marsHe said that he is not going to help me12:42
zyn:/12:42
kairu0what are the serious bugs in 3.5 beta 2?12:43
_marsAnd KDE crashed completly :)12:43
_marszyn write !tell _mars about qt 12:44
_marsplease12:44
hussamI installed dazuko kernel module but it won't load unless I load it before "capability" kernel module. How do I do that?12:44
zyn?12:45
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_marswrite !tell _mars about qt12:45
_marsi cant write it i myself i need to register12:45
zyn!tell _mars about qt12:45
_marsok thanks12:45
zynnp12:45
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Chironwhat is the package for KDE headers?12:46
qatsiuhmm, how do i install a tgz file ?12:46
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zyns,ien,ine,12:47
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_marsqatsi: tgz - you need to extract it :)12:48
qatsi_mars: already extracted :D12:48
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JustinSdoes /usr/local get pretty big? I'm chopping up my hd's right now and have 1.5 gig available for .. something .. (already have /boot swap and /tmp ..)12:49
=== JustinS root will go on it's own hd in a moment ..
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dohtemhey guys, xorg.conf stores my monitor settings and I can resue the file regardless of distro if my hardware remains the same correct?12:52
humboltI see kmail supports numerous spam filters which one is the best?12:53
zyndohtem: and provided all the font paths still work...12:53
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siimokde 3.5 beta2 is out for kubuntu =)12:54
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dohtemzyn: ah, thanks12:55
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Chironwhere is the file associations menu in the "system settings"12:55
Chiron?12:55
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kairu0any scim users?12:59
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qatsii need to install a tgz file, how do i do that?...already extracted it, but dont know how...any help ?01:02
JustinSqatsi: If it's extracted there should be a file in there that's either a configure.sh or .bin or something like that .. I'm not sure what you've got but google would have some answers, or the place you got the file ..01:03
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qatsiJustinS: thanx01:04
JustinSOnce in a while you don't have to fire up anything .. 01:04
libbenChiron: no. i wanna build it. so i get the latest01:05
tencoqatsi: look for a file called either INSTALL or README and read it01:05
JustinSzyn: FreeBSD kicked me ass lastnight is it worth it to use the freesbie disc to install it? (It's older, but can't I get it all updated via ports?)01:06
qatsitenco: none of them is included01:06
zynjustin: never tried freebsie... can't really say01:07
JustinSzyn: the install for freebsd is just too messy (And I'm a Gentoo user normaly) .. 01:07
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zynand i think it's wonderful :)01:08
zynuse it for my main development machine at work01:09
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JustinSzyn: I think FreeBSD is wonderful too but man that install .. bounces around like a madhatter ..01:09
zynwould have put it on this laptop, but the damn install cd wouldn't boot01:09
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JustinSaha .. I've got the Beta4 CD's around for 6.0 but since RC1 is out I'd rather go toss that on my server ..01:10
_mars_Shit i downloaded window decoration and i cant run it ://01:11
Chironwhy I can't I use my laptop volume buttons to change the volume?01:12
libbenChiron: no. i wanna build it. so i get the latest01:12
libbenwhy does it says error01:12
Chironno, it just doesn't do anything01:12
JustinSChiron: You'll have to research a little to see what it needs ..01:13
Chironlibben: about the Kasablanca program01:13
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Chironlibben: you have to install a few dev files01:13
libbeni have01:14
libbeni installed build-essentials01:14
libbenand the xlib-dev01:14
libbenand that last one hade like 10-15 deps01:14
libbenso i should have it all01:14
libbenanyhow.. the last thing the ./configure says01:14
libbenFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.01:15
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libbenlast line01:15
libbenextern "C" void std::exit (int) throw (); using std::exit;01:15
libbenconfigure: exit 101:15
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zyndo you have a c++ compiler installed? :)01:15
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duriis KHotKeys part of the standard kubuntu build ?01:19
duriI would like to add mouse gestures to Konqueror01:20
dohtemwhats the command to take screenshots from the command line?01:20
Chironlibben: it works for me01:21
Chironlibben: did you get kdelibs-dev package?01:21
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Benaventhola buenas01:22
ChironI broke Ksysguard01:22
Benaventquiero instalar kubuntu en mi portatil01:22
Chironhas anyone else had the same problem when upgrading?01:23
Benaventpero mientras carga la instalacin se queda la pantalla en negro i no se ve na01:23
Benaventalguien puede decirme a que se debe?01:23
ChironBenavent: la pantalla es negro?01:23
ChironBenavent: no dice nada en la pantalla?01:24
duridohtem: /usr/bin/ksnapshot --help-all | more01:24
Benaventsi, no muestra nada01:24
dohtemthnaks duri 01:24
dohtemthanks*01:24
Benaventempieza a cargar pero se fastidia01:25
ChironBenavent: hmm, no se que pasa01:25
Benaventjuer01:25
Benaventweno01:25
Benaventes raro la verdad01:25
ChironBenavent: no puedo hacer much sin un error01:25
Benaventnunca me habia pasado01:25
Chiron*mucho01:25
Benaventpodria ser algun problema de incompatibilidad?01:25
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Benaventdice algo antes de quedarse en negro pero no me da tiempo a leeer01:27
_mars_mamma mia :] 01:27
Benaventme ha parecido ver algo de buffer01:27
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ChironBenavent: que esta haciendo el instalador antes de la pantalla negra?01:29
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zynhmm01:30
Benaventpera que te digo lo que carga01:31
ChironBenavent: tienes que disculpar mi Espanol, hace casi 4 anos sin escribir en esta lenguaje01:31
Benaventjejeje01:31
Benaventno pasa nada01:31
Benavent;)01:31
Benaventgracias por la ayuda ;)01:32
Chironde nada01:32
Benaventmeto el cd i me sale la pantalla de kubuntu01:32
Benaventi cuando le doi a enter emipeza a cargar vmlinuz01:33
Benaventinitr.gz01:33
Benaventi empiezan a salir un monton de letras01:33
ChironI have some broken package-ness that I can't seem to fix with apt, is there some command I can use to autofix packages?01:33
Benaventi de golpe i porrazo se queda parao i la pantalla negra01:33
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ChironBenavent: oh ok01:34
ChironBenavent: eso es antes del installador01:34
Benaventok01:34
Benaventse te ocurre algo?01:34
ChironBenavent: el installador use una programma que se llama "Ncurses"01:34
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endo6O2hello01:35
ChironBenavent: quizas tiene la problem de incompatibilidad01:35
Chironhi01:35
Benaventasin poca cosa puedo hacer01:36
endo6O2anyone get this when inserting USB The file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.01:36
endo6O2?01:36
ChironBenavent: no hay mucho que puedes hacer01:36
ChironBenavent: es la computadora nueva?01:36
Benaventtiene 1 ao i medio01:37
Benaventes un ordenador portatil01:37
Benaventno es muy viejo01:38
Chironvives en los Estados Unidos o en Mexico?01:38
Benaventen espaa01:38
ChironBenavent: ok01:38
Benaventahora he probado con la distribucion de fedora01:39
Benaventi tambien se cuelga01:39
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ChironBenavent: y no tenias problema con otras computadoras cuando tratabas de installar Kubuntu?01:40
Benaventno01:40
Benaventse instalo bien01:40
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elementarmyhow do you bind keys01:42
ChironBenavent: hmm, no esta much que puedo hacer sin error, pero my adivinacion es que no es compatible con ese computadora01:43
Chiron*mucho01:43
Benaventgracias de todos modos ;)01:43
durielementarmy: try reading this one ... http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/50/KHotkeys.pdf ... I was just reading about hotkeys and mouse gestures01:43
Benaventun saludo a todo el mundo01:43
Chironde nada01:43
Chironbuena suerte01:44
Chironheh01:44
billytwowillyso did someone change where amarok looks for the ipod without telling anyone?01:44
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billytwowillyamarok can't find my ipod mini mounted on /mnt/ipod01:44
libbenChiron: just read what u wrote. and no. i havent. but i have installed xlibs-dev. should i keep it or uninstall it?01:44
Chironkeep it01:44
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Chirondoes anyone know how to make the laptop volume keys work in linux?01:47
kairu0Chiron, what is your laptop?01:48
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ChironInspiron 110001:49
ChironDell01:49
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kairu0okay dunno i have sony01:49
Chironwell how did you do it on there?01:49
kairu0but there should be a special kde component for laptop keys in your setup01:49
Chironwhere's that?01:50
kairu0in the kde control panel01:50
LeeJunFanhumbolt: ivman - that's the fscker thats automounting your stuff, and it's in /usr/bin/startkde01:50
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ChironI still have this broken package problem01:51
ChironI can't fix it01:51
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djperegrineCan I/ SHould  I add debian repostories ?01:52
fatejudgerdjperegrine: why not01:52
endo6O2has anyone installed moodin before?01:52
djperegrineI dunno01:52
hettaryeah01:52
hettarmoddin is pretty good01:52
hettarerr moodin even01:52
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elementarmydoes anyone run 3d desktop?01:57
_bradyI have a strange networking problem:  dns queries seemed extra slow.  Basically it willtake no less than 5 seconds to get an answer to a DNS query.  Ethereal shows the dns query at 0 seconds, then 4.9999 seconds later an arp query is set for the primary nameserver in resolv.conf01:59
_bradyI only have one network adapter active01:59
_bradyI don't run a 3d desktop, but always wanted to check one out02:00
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djperegrinehow do I get it so it doesn't try to update ubutunu packages with debian packages?02:06
Topslakris there good way to have kubuntu update the kde menus?02:06
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endo6O2hello02:13
pwn3r_hi02:14
libbenChiron: should i hit yes on the checkinstall  when it asks about documentation?02:15
libbenit tells me that it couldent find docs. and tells me it can create a default set of package docs02:15
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libbenChiron: i installed the homemade deb, but its not showing in the kmenu02:21
libbenpwn3r_: 02:24
libbenor someone02:24
libbeni just made a deb with checkinstall. kasablanca it was.02:24
libbenand now i installed it. and it wont show up02:24
libbeneven in terminal it wont show up when i start typing kasablanca02:25
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libbenits installed thou when i dpkg -l | grep kasablanca02:25
pwn3r_sorry libben, sounds strange to me.02:25
pwn3r_can you find the executable at all?02:26
pwn3r_in /usr/bin or whereevr it should be?02:26
othernoobis there a good graphical dvd-authoring program in the repos?02:26
Sonny_Wertzikcan someone answer a question about a difference between Knoppix and Kubuntu?02:27
paxkasablanca! whatta clever name for KDE app!02:28
libbennope02:28
libbenbut oooh02:28
pwn3r_Sonny_Wertzik, ask your question and you will find out :)02:28
Sonny_Wertzikok02:28
libbeni also deleted the folder where i did the sudo checkinstall and then moved the deb out 02:28
Sonny_Wertzikin knoppix when you hover over the icons on the panel they swell up...can this be set in kubuntu?02:28
libbenbut that shouldent matter02:28
pwn3r_that is a good question, i would like to know that too02:29
Sonny_Wertzikpwn3r_, u know what i mean right?02:29
paxwhat's special about kasablanca, kbear is no good?02:30
libbenhow do i uninstall?02:30
pwn3r_Sonny_Wertzik, yea i think do, it is probly a KDE option02:30
paxI never used any ftp app with kde other than konqueror btw02:30
Sonny_Wertzikpwn3r_, ya i cant find it hehehe02:31
pwn3r_libben, do you still have the deb file?02:33
libbenhttp://pastebin.com/40248702:33
Sonny_Wertzikanyyone know the answer to tht one?02:33
libbenpwn3r_: yeah i still have it. did a comlete removal in synaptic.02:33
libbenand installed it again02:33
libbenbut the same as in url02:33
libbeni install it, type kasablanca. and it wont pop02:33
endo6O2how do i get the process window?02:34
pwn3r_libben, are you sure that is the name to run it?02:35
pwn3r_where can i get this deb?02:35
libbenwell nothing with kas has popped when i hit tab several times02:36
libbenfrom me? =) i just compiled it02:36
libbenand did it with checkinstall02:36
pwn3r_oh maybe it is in /usr/local/bin instead of /usr/bin ? :)02:36
pwn3r_just an idea02:37
libbennope, only quake3 in there02:37
libbencan it be called kasbar?02:37
fatejudgercan somebody paste their ksysguard.list file on pastebin for me?02:38
fatejudgersomehow mine got messed up02:38
Sonny_Wertzikdoes anyone know if mscorefonts can be installed  from breezy repos ?02:38
paxlibben, what kde ver are you using?02:39
Sonny_Wertzikpax, me?02:39
libben34302:39
Sonny_Wertzikoh sorry02:39
paxdid it comaplian about kdelibs4 when installing?02:40
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libbenwhat u mean, compiling or installing ? http://pastebin.com/40248702:41
libbenthats my installing02:41
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libbenwhat to type to clear the apt-cache ?02:43
libbenso i dont install the same old deb again?02:43
libbengonna rebuild it02:43
libbenapt-cache clear?02:43
crimsunautoclean02:43
crimsunclean if you want to purge it of all debs02:43
crimsunapt-get autoclean02:44
libbeni just wanna wipe the cache location,... so it really uses the new one02:44
crimsunapt-get clean02:44
libbenwhats the diffrence in autoclean?02:45
crimsunautoclean keeps the version currently installed02:46
libbenaaah02:46
libbenok02:46
libbensez some warnings when doing make02:49
libbenbut in the end it says all ok02:49
libbenand that i should go on with make install02:49
libbenbut i do checkinstall with sudo02:49
fatejudgerfor some reason Konq won't show "media:/"02:51
fatejudgerthe stuff in there02:51
unsurrealis anything mounted?02:53
unsurrealcd in drive?02:53
unsurrealfloppy in drive?02:53
libbencrimsun: http://pastebin.com/40250102:54
libbenthats what happends when im all done02:55
libbenand when i try to type kasablanca02:55
libbennothing happends02:55
libbenmaybe i should redownload the source?02:55
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crimsunerr02:56
crimsunyou should make a proper Ubuntu package for it02:57
libbeni was told to use checkinstall by some dudes in here =)02:57
libbenso whats the proper ubuntu package then?02:57
crimsunmake one02:58
crimsunsee wiki/DeveloperResources02:58
libbenill look into it then, but why wont i find a kasablanca in the system?02:58
libbenwhere is it executable?02:58
crimsuncheckinstall probably dumps it into /usr/02:59
libbeni can see it in usr/local/bin or in /usr/bin02:59
crimsun/usr/bin/  rather02:59
libbenwhat do i type for updating the db ? so i can locate the xecutable02:59
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crimsunjust do a directory listing (ls) of /usr/bin/03:00
libbenive made that03:00
libbenand its not there03:00
libbenso i wanna hunt the executable down from the updated db03:01
crimsunthen dpkg-deb -c foo.deb03:01
libbeni know where my deb file is03:01
libbeni mean the executable that should lay in /usr/bin03:01
crimsunI presume you know what the command I gave you does?03:02
crimsunfilter the output from dpkg-deb -c foo.deb for your executable03:02
crimsunshould be straight-forward03:02
libbensorta. it list all things that has with it to do03:02
crimsunit lists the paths of the contents03:02
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libben-rwxr-xr-x root/root    369056 2005-10-23 02:50:54 ./usr/local/kde/bin/kasablanca03:03
libbeni would say we have a winner =)03:03
libbenbut thats not the righ locations 03:03
crimsunreason one billion+three not to use checkinstall03:03
libbenk, but i was told it would make a deb for me so i could uninstall it with synaptic for example03:04
libbenthat wouldent be possible with just make install?03:04
crimsuncorrect03:04
crimsuncheckinstall is better than clobbering /usr/ blindly, yes03:04
crimsunit's far from a proper Ubuntu package, though03:04
libbenbut by doing it with make install i would do it correctly into the paths?03:04
crimsunI have no idea; I haven't inspected kasablanca's Makefile03:05
libbendpkg -r is purge?03:05
libbenor complete removal?03:05
libbenisnt that just teh same?03:05
crimsunneither03:05
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crimsunit just removes the package03:06
crimsun-P is purge, which is a complete removal03:06
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libbenhmm so how do i type it ? 03:06
libbensudo dpkg -P kasablance?03:07
libbenbut its not seen in the system so it wont find it on that03:07
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tsumehey, curious what power settings software wise could be on. My screen goes ogg after 20 minutes and I must restart X because of the nvidia module. What could be a problem here?03:07
tsume*off03:07
libbencrimsun: 03:08
libbencan i go on to just type make install again?03:09
libbenor do i need to do all the parts over again?03:09
libben./configure and make03:09
crimsuntsume: the nvidia (binary-only) driver does not support suspend/hibernate properly; the nv (free) one does.03:09
libbencrimsun: why wouldent this pop  up into the Kmenu ? cause it was installed but just not in the path03:10
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crimsunlibben: if you make install, you'll make it very difficult to remove the application03:10
libbenu mean i need to do it by hand =)03:10
tsumecrimsun: I'm _pretty_ sure I disabled it from power management. Where else could it be set?03:10
crimsunlibben: yes03:10
libbenlikde looing in the output from dpkg -c debfile03:10
crimsuntsume: you would need to disable dpms in xorg.conf03:10
crimsunlibben: no, that's checkinstall's paths03:11
crimsunlibben: which may or may not correspond at all to what the original Makefiles use03:11
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libbenok =)03:11
tsumecrimsun: I already took that out03:12
cynehow do i make a backup copy of my dvd in kubuntu?03:12
crimsuntsume: no, you must explicitly DISABLE it03:12
tsumecrimsun: oh.03:12
tsumecrimsun: *sigh* you would think it would not be abled by default :P03:12
crimsundinnertime.03:12
libbencp /media/cdrom/* ~/home/dvdfoldernameheremaybe and just burn it on a new flyt03:12
tsumecrimsun: thanks03:12
cynelibben:  i've used dvdbackup to get the files onto my hard disk, but they are too big for a dvd03:13
libbenthen u need a shrinking program.03:13
libbeni have no idea, only used those on windows03:13
libbenlike dvdshrink and dvddecrypter to remove the region codes and get it to iso format03:13
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libbencrimsun: should i just try this instead?  Kasablanca-0.4.0.2 (Debian Linux): kasablanca_0.4.0.2-1_i386.deb03:22
libbenits on their hp. but how do i know if it has the proper setup?03:23
othernoobis there a good graphical dvd-authoring program in the repos?03:24
apokryphoslibben: better to compile03:24
apokryphosthough I still don't see why you don't want Konqueror 8)03:24
libbenmany reasons, 03:25
libben=)03:25
apokryphoslike what?03:25
libbeni want app that is designed for its purpose, and to be honest, i use gwenview to look at pictures, and not konq03:26
libbensame thing with ftp03:26
libbenkonq == IE in this case03:26
apokryphosthat's a bit of a silly stance03:26
apokryphosfor one, gwenview integrates into Konqueror03:26
apokryphosand for another, it's simply silly to presuppose that it's not going to work as well because it integrates into Konqueror03:27
apokryphosKonqueror is a file manager; using FTP is managing files03:27
apokryphosand of course if you use an app that was solely made for FTP that in no possible way implies that it would be better; kind of a moot point :/03:28
libbenso why arent there a konqueror button in internet section that says ftp (konqueror) then and something like that03:28
apokryphosso what if there isn't? How does that possibly imply that it isn't a good FTP client03:28
apokryphosall the kde devs I know of use *only* Konqueror for ftp (or, a lot of them tend to use fish:// too)03:28
apokryphosthe ftp (konqueror) in Internet >, might well be a good idea; may suggest it03:29
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libbenwhat do i need to type to get ftp konq up? 03:30
apokryphosftp://username@domainname.com03:30
apokryphosit's a kioslave03:30
libbenit lacks.03:31
libbenit works03:31
libbenbut it lacks03:31
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apokryphoslacks what?03:32
apokryphosit supports pretty much all the things you'd want to do (and it does it in Konqueror -> big plus). Any chmodding, any file-moving, transferring between servers, file previews etc etc03:33
libbenlike a button for disconnecting, dont wanna close the tab for that.03:33
libbenand it dont have multiple transfers it seems03:33
libbenmaybe in two tabs and copy between them03:34
kkathmanevening all :)03:34
apokryphosnot entirely sure how an ftp connection session works; not sure why you'd care about disconnecting really. It's like leaving an ssh session open -- do you really care that you're connected?03:34
apokryphoshow does it not support multiple transfers exactly? Of course it does03:34
libbenyeah, i was just mistaking, but when i thought about it.. it should just be like copying between another tab03:35
apokryphosand you can of course have split panes etc03:36
apokryphosftp, but with all the configurability of konqueror =)03:36
libbenif i click keep password03:38
libbenwhere will it keep it?03:38
apokryphosdepends on whether you're using kwallet or not03:38
libbenim not using it03:38
apokryphosif you're not, it'd probably just keep it in the same way it'd keep any other things; some type of encryption03:38
kkathmanapokryphos: what about kbear for FTP? i used to use that a while back03:39
apokryphosI used it when I very first started out (before knowing about Konqueror); it's pretty much development-dead. It's good as it has a few extra options IIRC, but quite simply they're not ones I'd use03:40
apokryphosKonqueror suffices for all my FTP needs, certainly03:40
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apokryphosthere's even sftp:// for the paranoid :D03:40
kkathmanyah I always was looking for one when I was doing my PHP development.. Quanta didnt have one built in :(03:40
apokryphosbut Quanta can appropriately save things if used through the ftp:// protocol, though, no?03:41
apokryphosI'm sure Kate can; don't remember about Quanta+03:41
fatejudgerdoes anyone know how to use i8kutils?03:41
kkathmanapokryphos: When I used it under hoary it couldnt I dont think...its why I dropped it and went back to Dreamweaver MX 2004 on Windows03:42
fatejudgerI can't seem to get it working on my Inspiron03:42
apokryphoskkathman: but wait, what do you mean that it didn't have the ftp built in? You do know you can use kioslaves in pretty much any kde app03:42
kkathmanapokryphos: maybe it was there and I just didnt perceive it03:42
apokryphoskkathman: so i.e. you can File -> Open, then ftp://username@domain-name03:42
fatejudgerdoes anyone know of any way to get the volume buttons on my Dell Inspiron 1100 working?03:42
kkathmanapokryphos: well I didnt think you could with Quanta tho03:42
apokryphosany proper KDE app, yes03:43
kkathmanapokryphos: hmmm.. Maybe I will try that...03:43
fatejudgerwhy does Linux and laptop have to be so incompatible...03:44
fatejudger*laptops03:44
apokryphoskkathman: yes, just tested; saving works perfectly with Quanta. As any kde app, after saving it syncs back with the server03:44
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kkathmanso ok..I'm trying now... apokryphos ... just save locally that then file open ftp://username@foo.com  right?03:46
apokryphossave locally?03:46
apokryphosbut yes, that is the thing to enter in Konqueror03:46
kkathmanseems like you'd also need ftp://username:password@foo.com03:46
apokryphosnope03:46
apokryphosa dialogue will come up asking pass etc03:46
kkathmanahh ok03:47
kkathmankewl03:47
apokryphosbut anyhow, speaking of Quanta -- it is very nice ;-)03:47
fatejudgeris Quanta like Zend?03:48
apokryphosI hear they have like 2 developers doing the workload of about 20 people or something :D03:48
kkathmanfatejudger: Quanta is more like a Dreamweaver Lite03:48
apokryphos(hence it being so dang comprehenesive)03:48
kkathmanZend is much more function rich...I have that also03:48
fatejudgerI need a Zend-like program03:48
apokryphosdreamweaver is wysiwyg crap; yuck :D03:48
kkathmanapokryphos: I never wysiwyg with it, but used it because of the features it has for having the MySQL right there and other things03:49
endo6O2hey what is the best IRC client to use for kubuntu?03:49
kkathmanZend has that feature too...and they have a Linux version03:49
apokryphosendo6O2: Konversation is good03:49
endo6O2better than bitchx03:50
endo6O2or mirc03:50
apokryphoskkathman: haven't tried it out extensively ever, so I'm a little ignorant03:50
kkathmanapokryphos: when I call up a proggie...do I file open or save as and put that ftp in?03:50
fatejudgerfor some reason "media:/" doesn't show anything03:50
apokryphosmIRC; ergh -- so ugly03:50
fatejudgerno hard drives03:50
fatejudgeror cdrom drives03:50
kkathmanlove mIRC tho apok, sorry :)03:50
pwn3r_anyone know of an audio player that supports visualizations like milkdrop?03:50
apokryphoskkathman: little confused; what do you mean?03:50
kkathmanapokryphos: so in Quanta I have a program up (PHP script)... now I want to save it on the webserver...do I file-open, or save-as ?03:51
tsumetelnet is good to IRC with03:51
apokryphoskkathman: well, if you want to Save it then Save-as....03:51
kkathmanI want to save it on the webserver on the host's site03:52
apokryphosthen Save-as, sure03:52
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kkathmanyanno... as if I saved it locally, then FTP'd it up to the web site03:52
kkathmancuz that doesnt work with ftp on save as03:52
kkathmanit tries to save it on your local machine03:53
apokryphoskkathman: you have a file opened locally in Quanta, right? 03:53
kkathmancorrect03:53
apokryphoskkathman: so then just Save-as, and in the Location bar hit: ftp://username@domainname.com  and hit <Enter>03:53
kkathmanI did....and it wasnt to save it to my local drive, not the website...it asks to overwrite the local file03:54
kkathmanwants03:54
apokryphoskkathman: you must be pressing enter when you're not focused on the Location bar or something, then03:54
apokryphoswhoops, Location -> bad use of terminology03:54
apokryphosI see it calls the bottom part the Location. I mean Location as in the top part (URL location text-box)03:55
endo6O2how do i sue cpp?03:55
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endo6O2use*03:55
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kkathmanok that worked...wow thats kewl apokryphos ,  thanks for the hint :)03:55
paxanyone got their ipod nano to work with amaroK, gtkpod or any other app under breezy?03:56
apokryphospax: nope, but if you send me one I'll be sure to try it ;-)03:56
kkathmannow if quanta would just show me the MySQL structures :)03:56
apokryphospax: it should of course work just fine; are you having problems?03:56
paxhehe :-)03:56
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paxyeah, apple is just making it more difficult for linux users, greed is what it is03:57
apokryphoshow? I don't think they would03:58
apokryphosthey love our KHTML :D03:58
paxhehe it mounts fine, but I can't get any app to write to it03:58
libbenplayed some with a photo of my gf earlier today. saw that gimp had a contest. but it was closed. only realised that when i was half way with my splash. anyway. ot works for me. i need to fix some in the skintones. otherwise its ok. and gimp wasnt so hard to learn, been a ps for a long time. http://hem.passagen.se/standby/gimp-splash.png03:58
pwn3r_i am getting quite a lot of segmentation faults in my apps. what can cause this?03:58
apokryphospax: what's the exact error?03:59
libbenand yes, i played some with some colors in her eys, thats not here real eye color03:59
libbenwould be kewl though03:59
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judith?04:01
paxapokryphos, nothing relevant mate, just that it can't sync/write to ipod04:02
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paxamaroK simply crashes when It tries to sync04:02
apokryphospax: does amarok bring up all the files?04:03
libbenhow do i uninstall a program that ive just installed with make install? 04:03
paxyes it does, it read the database fine04:03
apokryphoslibben: make uninstall04:03
libbenis it by looking at all paths it can have before removing it and hunt hunt hunt to destroy it all?04:03
libbencrimsun: u said it would be a pain in the ***04:04
apokryphospax: have you tried (sounds odd, but could be worth trying) doing alt+f2 -> kdesu amarok  ..and then trying04:04
libbenis it with make uninstall?04:04
apokryphoslibben: any good program should make uninstall appropriately, yes04:04
apokryphosshouldn't be a hassle04:04
libbenso what? type ./configure && make && make uninstall && make install ?04:05
apokryphoserr, what?04:05
paxapokryphos, ah you're thinking permission issue?04:05
apokryphosI thought you're tryin gto remove it, not install it04:05
apokryphospax: sounds like it, yes04:05
libbenwell, crimsun told me it was a pain *** to uninstall something that has been installed with make and make install04:06
libbensorta of hunting all paths and remove it all by hand04:06
apokryphosnot sure why he'd say that; it isn't04:06
paxnah, it's more than that. I did it try your suggestion however. this is a known issue with nano, and some dude told me they're working on a patch04:06
apokryphosoh ok04:06
libbenso what then apokryphos, if i know install my proggie with make and make install04:07
libbenand its all good04:07
libbenand then i wanna remove it04:07
pwn3r_what can i do to stop my apps from giving me a segmentation fault? 04:07
apokryphoslibben: as I said, make uninstall04:07
libbenyeah, but what04:07
libbenjust type make uninstall kasablanca?04:07
apokryphoserr, no. Just make uninstall04:08
apokryphoswith sudo, if it needs it04:08
libbenand it will ask for what to uninstall then ?04:08
apokryphosgeez, what are you talking about04:08
apokryphosdid it ask for what to install when you ran make install?04:08
libbennope.04:09
libbenbut what if i have installed more programs like this, how will it know what to uninstall?04:09
libbenthats my point04:09
apokryphosI think you're misunderstanding04:10
paxapokryphos, even if I send you one, I'm sure you will not try to make it work, but rather find away to install breezy on it04:10
apokryphossay you configure, make and make install something. If you leave the source directory as it is, any good program is set up so that in the source directory there is sufficient information which describes what exactly it installed04:10
judithI wonder why Kubuntu 5.10 was shipped with gstreamer that does not work!04:11
apokryphosthus, a make uninstall in that directory works simply by going by that, and uninstalling what it put in04:11
apokryphospax: maybe both :D04:11
apokryphosjudith: it does04:11
libbenwell, i allways tend to remove the folder that ive compiled from04:11
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apokryphosthen no make uninstall04:11
libbenit would be more nice if u could type make uninstall in the installation process so u would get a file that removes everything completly04:12
apokryphosa bad practicfe, as you can see, of course04:12
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libbenwhy isnt there something like this instead? why do they want to have the compiled folder to be able to make uninstall.. makes really no sense.04:15
libbenthe sense is a uninstall file should be created on every compiling. that would make sense04:16
libbenwho do i talk about this. =)04:16
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apokryphoskpfk: please stop that04:21
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kpfktesting04:22
apokryphosyou're testing that you can change your nick?04:22
apokryphosErm, well, you can.04:22
kpfknope; just showing a friend irc; I don't use Konversation; this is my first time with it.04:23
apokryphosok04:23
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kpfkHmm; I see that Breezy is released.  How long ago did this happen?04:23
apokryphosOct 1304:24
kpfkRunning old hoary here.04:24
kpfkthnx04:24
wotnarg*peer* is x-paste disabled in OO.o2?04:24
libbenwhy not run dapper kpfk  =)04:24
kpfkand what is dapper?  SUccesssor to Breezy?04:24
libbennext version04:24
apokryphoserm, you shouldn't run dapper because it's dapper04:25
apokryphosand also because it's not out yet04:25
wotnargerm, is the dapper developement branch even open yet? :P04:25
apokryphosno04:25
libbenwell, its been started on04:25
libbenbut repos for public i think not =)04:25
kkathmanback... sorry had some company :)04:25
apokryphoslibben: nope04:25
apokryphosthe developers don't use an alternative repository; they use the same ones04:26
cynewhere do i change my apt-get sources04:27
cyne?04:27
wotnarg /etc/apt/sources.list04:27
libbenin /etc/apt/sources.list04:27
wotnargedit the file with a sudo'ed version of some editor04:27
libbenby the way, went thru the INSTALL file apokryphos 04:27
wotnargaka sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list04:27
libbenand found this04:27
libbenBy default, `make install' will install the package's files in `/usr/local/bin', `/usr/local/man', etc.  You can specify an installation prefix other than `/usr/local' by giving `configure' the option `--prefix=PATH'.04:27
libbeni assume its ok to just runt the default settings04:28
libbencause local is in the path04:28
apokryphosjust go for /usr04:28
libbenbut if i wanted it to be in /usr/bin i would just type that prefix in the configure part and MAN part would be in /usr too? instead of local?04:28
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apokryphos--prefix=/usr04:29
libbenaah04:29
libbeni was under the impression i would type /usr/bin  but that would be wrong.04:29
apokryphosit would be, yes04:30
libbenso it would be ./configure --prefix=/usr04:31
naliothapokryphos: seen ridd ell?04:31
libbenand it would be right04:31
naliothlibben: when you compile most standard source, it usually puts it in /usr/local  (where locally compiled things should go)04:32
apokryphosnalioth: in here? Not in some time, but I haven't been on here too much today04:32
apokryphoslibben: yes04:32
apokryphosnalioth: he was active earlier; you could just /query him. He's friendly 8)04:32
libbenso i should let it be in local?04:32
naliothapokryphos: you are the op here, i'm just the supplicant (for me and thor)04:33
naliothlibben: yes, for system stability, always instll your compiled stuff into /usr/local/04:33
libbenk04:33
apokryphosit really doesn't matter; I only ever use local/ for when I wanna run alternate versions of something04:33
libbentrue04:34
libbensounds like a good habit04:34
libbenthink i will adopt that04:34
libbenbut the bugging me part is that i need to have the folder where i compiled it from laying around if i wanna uninstall it easily someday04:35
libbenhow do i check what paths a deb file is using?04:35
libbenim guessing i can extract it and check what it does sorta.04:35
naliothapokryphos: it does matter. if you compile a incompatible version of something and it installs into /usr/bin, you're hosed04:36
libbenwhys that ?04:37
apokryphosthen I'd just make uninstall04:37
libben=)04:37
libbenby having the compiled folder still laying around =)04:37
pwn3r_I have 2 programs that are giving me segmentation faults. can someone verify if they work for them?04:37
libbenwell, i could in "theory" make mkdir compiled04:37
libbenand just never look in that folder =)04:38
libbenuntill i need to uninstall04:38
wotnargpwn3r_: I'll try em.04:38
libbenis that sort of u do apokryphos ?04:38
pwn3r_wotnarg, xmms and kdetv04:38
libbenor is it just folders laying all over the system?04:38
pwn3r_thanks04:38
wotnargpwn3r_: Nps, it will be a second until they install.04:39
apokryphoslibben: I have a downloads/ folder for all debs/applications. I leave them there if I've finished them; it's not as if I'm remotely low on space04:39
libbenbut say if we would remove the folder then. and wanted to remove/uninstalll/purge it04:40
apokryphossuffice it to say, the repositories cover 99% of the packs I need04:40
kkathmanhey there pwn3r_ :)04:40
libbenit would be by going onto hunting the paths and remove it manually04:40
pwn3r_hi kkathman 04:40
kkathmanhow do I check to see what the current version of an application is, say within the repos?04:41
cyneanyone know where i can find dvdrip for kubuntu ?04:42
libbensynaptic or kynaptic or consoel?04:42
apokryphoskkathman: apt-cache show application; /msg ubotu info application; packages.ubuntu.com04:42
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kkathmanthanks apokryphos  :)04:43
jsubl2kkathman, apt-cache showpkg pkgname04:43
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Topslakranyone else having a problem with java eating away at the cpu? Uses 95-100%04:45
kpfk04:45
kkathmangee I'd have thought that quanta would have upped its release since hoary :(04:45
libbencheckinstall should be removed from the repos =) evil thing =)04:46
apokryphoskkathman: surprise! It has04:46
apokryphosremember that Quanta keeps to the KDE release cycle04:46
apokryphos(hence 3.4.3 in Breezy)04:46
kkathmanhmm..... I think it was 3.4.3 before...maybe I just kept it up to date :)04:47
kkathmanI did an update just before  I upgraded tho04:47
apokryphoshoary had kde 3.4.204:47
kkathmanlol04:47
apokryphoshuuuge change04:47
apokryphos(not)04:47
kkathmanyah thats what I meant...sorry for the miscommunication04:48
kkathmanI mean...a  dot dot change? lol04:48
libbencant wait for kde 3.5 be little more stable and enabled in the repos04:48
apokryphos3.4.x are bugfix releases04:48
kkathmanlibben: yah I dont think we should be promoting 3.5 beta 2..too many buggies esp with the artsd thing04:49
apokryphosI think 3.5 has been a bit of a letdown overall (so far). There just haven't been that many great things04:49
apokryphosand it's gonna be the kde you'll be using for about a year :/04:49
libbenhavent tried it yet. i want it somewhat stable before trying.04:49
endo6O2what is tux?04:49
apokryphosGoogle04:50
apokryphosanyhow, I'm off to bed; 'night04:50
kpfk04:51
Chameleon22has anyone here experienced this error: Cannot rename /var/lib/snmp/snmpapp.conf to /var/lib/snmp/snmpapp.0.conf when running a CLI php5 script?04:51
libbenwooohooo. this did not work eiterh04:53
libbenweird!04:53
libbenno kasablanca showing up this time either04:53
libbenand did it with the default values. so it should be located in /usr/local/bin04:53
libbenbut its not =)(04:53
kkathmanapokryphos: I would agree .. espec with that beta 2 release :(04:53
kkathmanwe really should remove that from the topic :)04:54
libbenhmm04:54
libbenwhy does it puts it into /usr/local/kde/bin04:55
libbengrrr04:55
libbeni dont wanna add that to my path04:55
libbenbtw apokryphos make uninstall in folder worked great04:55
libbenthxs for the tips04:55
pwn3rwotnarg, hows it coming? :)04:57
pwn3rcould a corrupted library be the cause of segmentations faults?04:59
TopslakrI'm trying to use the make-jpkg command but it's not found and I can't figure out how to install it..04:59
libbenhow can i check all the paths from my compiled app?05:01
libbencause i cant do the deb trick with dpkg -c05:01
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libbenlol05:08
libbenwhat useless is this05:08
libbenwhy dont kasablanca shows up in katapult? when it does it in a terminal?05:09
libbendo i need to restart kasablanca?05:09
libbenment katapult05:09
libbenaah05:10
libbenneeded to restart it =)05:10
frank23what is kasablanca?05:10
libbenftp app05:10
libbenjust compiled it05:11
libbenlooks good.05:11
libbenreminds me of fxp for windows05:11
frank23ok05:11
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frank23libben: did you try kbear?05:12
libbennope, cause they bashed it abit in here. and raised konq to the skys =) and talked about kasablanca. so i went for kasablanca05:13
libbenallthough kbear's dev is from sweden like me and i know we are leet at coding, so next version he pops im gonna check05:13
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frank23ok, I never tried kbear either. I was just using gftp as a ftp client05:14
daveho folks,05:14
libbeni did gftp about 5-6 months ago05:14
libbenfrank23: ur on kde i presume05:15
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daveKubuntu and mounting hard drive (already partitioned with Kubuntu breesy)05:15
frank23libben: yeah05:15
libbenuse kasablanca then, its for kde05:15
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naliothkftpgrabber05:19
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pwn3rcould a corrupted library be the cause of segmentations faults?05:22
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wotnargpwn3r: crap... it slipped my mind. Do they segfault on startup for you?05:30
pwn3ryea05:30
pwn3rdont worry about it05:30
wotnargheh05:30
wotnargwell, they don't for me :/05:30
pwn3ri have a xubuntu box i tried them on and they work fine there05:30
wotnargSo, it just your setup. Odd.05:31
pwn3rthank you05:31
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pwn3ryea thats why i was wondering about the librarys05:31
kkathmankasablanca?05:31
wotnargcaused artsd to crash though :p05:31
wotnargof course, since I'm using kde3.5b2, almost anything can crash artsd.05:31
pwn3rheh05:32
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kkathmanlol05:38
pwn3r:)05:42
wotnarghrm, does xpengiuns work with kde?05:55
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yasserhow do i get the debian menu?05:57
pwn3rwotnarg, you can send invading penguins across the network! :O05:58
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pwn3rthats the coolest thing i ever heard05:59
wotnargheheh06:00
pwn3rhave you tried it?06:00
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wotnargwhat, xpenguins?06:03
pwn3ryea06:03
helpmei installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu...how do i get kubuntu splash??06:03
kkathmanxpenguins???06:03
kkathmanlol06:03
pwn3rhelpme, have you updated and upgraded?06:04
helpmepwn3r: nope.......why? im on breezy06:05
pwn3rer i guess you wouldnt need to if you installed the meta package from ubuntu06:05
pwn3ryea sorry my bad06:05
kkathmanI wonder if anyone is going to fix "Administrator Mode" on the System Settings Menu?06:06
kkathmanIts irritating06:06
pwn3ri cant get that xpenguins working06:07
helpmeis there any audio player with presets?06:08
seth_khelpme:06:08
seth_ksudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash06:09
seth_ksudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.12-9-68606:09
seth_kto get the kubuntu usplash06:09
wotnargpwn3r: same06:09
seth_kand what do you mean by presets?06:09
helpmeseth_k: thanks...will reconfiguring linux image do any harm?06:09
helpmeseth_k: presets like bass, dance etc..?06:09
seth_khelpme, nope it's perfectly safe unless you manually tweaked your grub boot config in the AutoMagic part06:10
helpmeseth_k: i did nothing...except changed the titles from ubuntu to kubuntu...is that ok?06:11
seth_kThat's fine, but it's going to remove those changes06:11
seth_kyou'll have to change them again06:11
seth_kbut no real harm06:11
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seth_khelpme, AmaroK has awesome presets in Tools > Equalizer06:11
helpmeseth_k: ok06:11
wotnargpwn3r: Pity that we can't send invading penguins over a network :(06:12
helpmeseth_k: yes i just saw them:).......didnt know amoarok had it.....now i'll dump xmms06:12
pwn3rfoiled again! 06:12
wotnargja06:14
paxmuahaha got ipod nano to work with gtkpod :D06:14
helpmehey konq aint loading any pages...saying unknown host!!06:15
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wotnargpwn3r: It works! Go to kcontrol, then desktop, then behavoir, then check allow applications in desktop.06:16
helpmehelp! neither konq nor firefox will load any pages! behaving as if im offline!!06:17
pwn3rwotnarg,  great! thanks :)06:20
wotnarg:)06:20
helpmehelp! neither konq nor firefox will load any pages! behaving as if im offline!!06:21
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djperegrinemonodevelop takes around 10000  years to load06:27
stbainhelpme: fire up a terminal and try to dig the hostname you're having trouble pulling up. See if it is resolving correctly.06:27
djperegrineand the loading screen just hangs , doesn't paint06:27
stbaine.g. dig www.google.com06:27
JeffAMcGeetry visiting http://216.239.37.99/06:28
helpme; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> www.google.com06:28
helpme;; global options:  printcmd06:28
helpme;; Got answer:06:28
helpme;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 451106:28
helpme;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 006:29
helpme;; QUESTION SECTION:06:29
helpme;www.google.com.                        IN      A06:29
helpme;; Query time: 5023 msec06:29
helpme;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)06:29
helpme;; WHEN: Sun Oct 23 09:58:33 200506:29
helpme;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 3206:29
helpmestbain: sorry06:29
stbainlooks like a DNS problem06:29
stbainwww.google.com should be a CNAME record to www.l.google.com, which then resolves to a number of different IP addresses06:30
frank23anyone here uses the ksysguard applet having problems after every kde upgrades?06:30
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helpmestbain: this never happened before.....im online but cant see weppage!...jow do i correct this?06:31
stbainyour DNS server is pointed at what looks like your router (192.168.1.1)06:31
stbainpoint it somewhere else06:31
stbaininstall dnscache and run a local caching DNS server if you have to06:31
frank23helpme: just find your ISP's DNS server addresses and use those maybe06:32
wotnargheh, my router does that too06:32
stbainmine does as well06:32
wotnargI just set a  cron job to overwrite /etc/resolv.conf with another file with a good version every 5 minutes.06:32
stbainmy router thinks us.archives.ubuntu.com is 0.0.33.14406:32
helpmestbain: how do i find out my isp's dns addresses?06:33
stbainyou can probably get it by looking at the network status on your router06:33
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stbaingotta ru06:36
stbainn.06:36
stbaingood luck06:36
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pwn3rman i really got to get these nvidia drivers working :(06:57
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satafterhneed some help with error while install software07:07
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satafterhwarning: Please check that your locale settings:07:08
satafterh        LANGUAGE = "en_CA:en",07:08
satafterh        LC_ALL = (unset),07:08
satafterh        LANG = "en_CA.UTF-8"07:08
amarockis it true that if i compile kaff from source i can playd dvds & mp3s out of the box!!07:10
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satafterhwhat does this mean 07:18
amarockanyone uses kino or something?07:24
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fatejudgerdoes anyone know why nothing shows up in the "Storage Media" selection in Konq?07:33
fatejudgerperhaps someone knows why my openGL screensavers are misaligned?07:37
fatejudgermaybe someone could tell me how to get the volume keys working on a Dell Inspiron 1100?07:37
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fatejudgeris anyone even here?07:43
crimsunyes07:44
crimsunwhy?07:44
BlankCyes.07:44
cynehi07:44
crimsun109 of us here07:44
crimsunat least 4 active07:44
seth_kthe openGL screensavers are misaligned b/c you'll need a modeline corresponding to your LCD for whatever resolution they run at07:49
seth_kand for volume keys, I use a custom xmodmap07:50
fatejudgerI knew that xmodmap had something to do with it07:53
fatejudgeroh damn07:53
fatejudgernow you're away07:53
fatejudgerdoes anyone else know how to do the xmodmap?07:53
crimsunget the xev codes when you press the buttons and tie them to an xmodmap config07:54
fatejudgerhow do I get the xev codes?07:54
crimsunstart xev, press the key, write down the code07:55
crimsunyou can find guides via a Web search engine07:55
fatejudgercrap how do I shut down xev07:55
fatejudgerit keeps going07:55
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fatejudgerI can't tell it to stop07:55
crimsunpress ctrl+c07:56
fatejudgerok, I have the codes07:57
fatejudgerwell07:58
fatejudgerwhich ones are the codes?07:58
fatejudgerit gives you a bunch of info07:58
fatejudgerthere should be a GUI program that does this07:58
crimsunthe one that says keycode07:59
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fatejudger176, 174, 16008:00
fatejudgernow what do I do with those?08:00
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fatejudgercrimsun: hello?08:02
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crimsunfatejudger: hook them up to xmodmap08:04
crimsunfatejudger: search Google08:05
fatejudgerthere is a graphical frontend to xmodmap08:05
fatejudgercalled xkeycaps08:05
fatejudgerbut it looks old as hell08:05
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dsbwhy no firefox with a kubuntu?08:08
crimsundsb: because konqueror is included by default08:08
dsbor is kde on a googleOS type of path08:08
crimsunif you want firefox, just install it via adpet08:09
crimsunadept^08:09
fatejudgercrimsun: I don't understand where to find a list of available functions to bind the keys to08:09
dsbwell at least this is better than that gnome thing08:10
fatejudgercrimsun: I can only bind the keys to things like delete and escape08:11
crimsunyou can bind them to anything you wish08:11
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fatejudgercrimsun: I get that, but how08:13
fatejudgercrimsun: I can't just say "xmodmap -e keycode 160 = VolumeUp"08:13
fatejudgerVolumeUp has to mean something08:13
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dsbis there a display resolution tool in this kubuntu?08:14
fatejudgeryes08:14
fatejudgerright click on the desktop08:14
fatejudgerconfigure desktop08:14
fatejudgerthen click on display08:14
dsbok thanks08:14
fatejudgernp08:14
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dsba higher refresh rate is better, right?08:15
dsbeasier on the eyes?08:16
erikstiis it possible to use a private dsa key created with puttygen? I have to change its format or something?08:16
fatejudgerdsb: yeah, if you have a CRT monitor08:18
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fatejudgerdsb: don't make it too high though08:18
fatejudgerdsb: 85 is good08:18
dsbI have it at 75, thats as high as I can go at 1280 with my oldass stuff08:19
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dsbwow, I'm impressed how kde is developing08:21
fatejudgerdsb: yeah, KDE is great08:21
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Danny|What exactly are you impressed with? ^^08:22
fatejudgerso is Kubuntu though08:22
dsbnew stuff, ie Im using this Konversation08:22
endo602i just upgraded to 3.5 kde and now my panels wont pop up08:22
endo602anyone have this problem as well?08:22
dsbI saw Krita which looks like gimp, so I had to read up on the faq about it08:23
fatejudgerendo602: which is why I don't make a habit of using betas08:23
fatejudgerendo602: except when it comes to firefox...08:23
fatejudgerwhich I sure would like to see a regularly updated 3rd party repository for08:23
endo602hehe08:23
endo602well08:23
endo602is there a way08:23
endo602to downgrade?08:23
dsbya, I was a little disappointed that firefox was not included, but no big deal08:23
fatejudgerdsb: you can downloaded super-easily from adept08:24
dsbthats my next move, look at adept08:24
fatejudgerdsb: adept -> search -> firefox08:24
endo602can i downgrade?08:24
fatejudgermake sure the get the plastikfox theme08:24
fatejudgerendo602: I don't know08:24
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fatejudgerendo602: it should be pretty stable08:24
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fatejudgerendo602: I'm surprised you're having problems08:25
fatejudgerendo602: how does 3.5 look btw?08:25
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endo602fine08:25
endo602the same pretty  much08:25
fatejudgerendo602: better than 3.4.3?08:25
endo602yeah08:25
fatejudgerendo602: new features?08:25
endo602but i cant get these panels to work08:25
endo602it sux08:25
fatejudgerendo602: did they fix that stupid system settings thing?08:25
dsbadept updater?08:25
fatejudgerwhere the windows didn't resize properly08:25
fatejudgerdsb: no, just adept08:25
fatejudgerdsb: adept updater is for updating only08:25
dsbok where is adept?08:25
fatejudgerdsb: the regular adept does packages and updating08:26
fatejudgerdsb: it should be right above it08:26
endo602fatejudger08:26
endo602not sure what you are talking about08:26
endo602i just got kbuntu08:26
dsbok, sorry eyes getting used to new desktop08:26
endo602i am new to all this08:26
fatejudgerendo602: go into the system settings08:26
fatejudgerendo602: do you know where that is?08:26
endo602yeah08:26
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fatejudger!repositories08:27
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)08:27
dsbso is this adept just a kde gui frontend to the apt package manager thing?08:27
endo602dood08:27
endo602i cant get my panels working08:27
fatejudgerdsb: yeah, basically08:27
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RootedXAnyone know why my Mouse would stop working when i switch from one computer to another with a KVM switch?08:28
RootedXi dont get this issue with Debian, but had similar issue with mandrake except it was my keyboard that stoped responding in mdk.08:28
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dsbshould I do a 'full upgrade' on the adept08:31
kkathmananyone around?08:31
fatejudgerdsb: yeah08:31
fatejudgerkkathman: I am08:31
kkathmandsb: are you on breezy?08:31
kkathmanhey fatejudger :)08:31
dsbyes, just installed the iso08:31
fatejudgerkkathman: hey08:31
kkathmandsb:  Ok, did you install ubuntu or kubuntu ?08:32
dsbI erased ubuntu to install kunbuntu08:32
fatejudgerkkathman: you wouldn't happen to be able to fix one of my 3 problems with my laptop would you?08:32
fatejudgeractually 408:32
endo602damn these panels08:32
endo602they better fix these08:32
kkathmanIm not sure fatejudger, what seems to be the problem?08:32
dsbthat gnome was no good for me08:32
fatejudgerkkathman: well "media:/" doesn't work in Konqueror08:33
kkathmandsb all you needed to do was just load kubuntu-desktop on top...and it would have been best08:33
fatejudgerkkathman: I can't play mp3s or wmv files using any media player08:33
kkathmanfatejudger: it should be fine08:33
fatejudgerkkathman: what should be fine?08:33
dsbits an extra hard drive so Ive been playing around with different distros and their installs08:34
kkathmandsb anyway you installed kubuntu then08:34
erikstifatejudger: /media ?08:34
fatejudgerkkathman: I can't get my volume keys on my laptop to work08:34
dsbI have kubuntu now08:34
kkathmandsb probably all you need to do is sudo apt-get install adept at a console08:34
fatejudgereriksti: no, the konqueror sudocommand08:34
endo602kkathman: know what is up with kde3.5 and the panels acting up08:34
fatejudgereriksti: "media:/"08:34
kkathmanfatejudger: yah I hear thats an ongoing issue right now with KDE08:34
fatejudgerkkathman: what?08:35
fatejudgerkkathman: the media thing?08:35
kkathmanwont work on a laptop or on a keyboard that has the multimedia keys08:35
fatejudgerkkathman: oh08:35
endo602is there a way to refresh the desktop08:35
endo602?08:35
fatejudgerkkathman: well I'm supposed to be able to bind the keys to the volume using xmodmap08:35
fatejudgerkkathman: but I don't know how to do that08:35
kkathmanendo602:  do you have the beta2?08:35
endo602yeah08:35
kkathmanyah fatejudger I think there have been a half dozen or more people reporting the same thing08:36
kkathmanbut I thought I heard that was being worked out08:36
kkathmanIm not sure08:36
kkathmanendo602: yah..there are LOTS of bugs in the beta208:36
endo602kkathman: is there a way to downgrade?08:36
kkathmanartsd doesnt work in beta2, the panels are weird08:36
kkathmanendo602: I have heard that there is, but I hear its painful and I dont know the procedure08:37
endo602kkathman: damn08:37
fatejudgerkkathman: maybe you could help me out with one of my other problems08:37
kkathmanyah they really let the beta2 out WAY too soon08:37
fatejudgerkkathman: if I can't do the "media:/" thing I can't check my HD space08:37
endo602kkathman: konquerer is all messed up too08:37
endo602kkathman: is there a way to refresh the desktop?08:38
kkathmanfatejudger: did you try df in the konsole?08:39
fatejudgerendo602: right click -> refresh desktop08:39
fatejudgerkkathman: df?08:39
kkathmanendo602: not sure what you mean "refresh"...you can ctrl-alt-backspace and that should restart X08:39
kkathmanfatejudger: yes df08:39
fatejudgerkkathman: damn, it says I've used up 30% of my HD08:40
fatejudgerkkathman: and I only have 7 gigs...08:40
fatejudgerkkathman: the rest went to stupid Windows08:40
kkathmanhmm...08:40
kkathmanyou are using dual boot?08:40
fatejudgeryeah08:40
kkathmanahh ok08:40
kkathmanyah I did that once08:40
fatejudgerwell this is my laptop08:40
fatejudgerand I need to play LAN party games on it08:40
fatejudgerusing network support08:41
fatejudgerand you can't do that with cedega08:41
fatejudgerwhich sucks08:41
dsbah man, finally found the anti-aliasing, thats what was killin my eyes08:41
kkathmanwhat I did was before I loaded Linux, I used Partition Magic to clear and partition the space, then installed LInux08:41
fatejudgerooh, a risk taker08:41
kkathmanfatejudger: did you try crossover or wine?08:41
fatejudgerCedega08:41
fatejudgerCedega is the directx one that allows you to play games with directx support08:41
kkathmanahh ok08:41
fatejudgerby it doesn't support network stuff08:42
fatejudger*but08:42
dsbjust buy extra hard drives, they are cheap08:42
fatejudgerlike Age of Empires II08:42
fatejudgerMicrosoft uses the proprietary protocols08:42
kkathmanI have two boxes personally, one is a winbox and then I have actually 3 linux boxes08:42
fatejudgerdsb: I have a laptop, not a desktop08:42
kkathmanbut 1 primary linux  and  1 windows08:42
dsbwell laptops, ok08:42
fatejudgerkkathman: dual boots are great08:42
endo602kkathman: hmmm08:43
dsbbut I have one box, but many hard drives with a removable enclosure so I can swap out08:43
endo602kkathman: no worries ill wiat until new beta is out08:43
fatejudgerkkathman: so how about that media:/ thing?08:43
kkathmanendo602:  you might ask apokryphos , crimsun or one of the heavies that could walk you through uninstalling the beta08:44
kkathmanfatejudger: Im sorry what was the media:/ thing again?08:44
endo602kkathman: thanks man08:45
fatejudgerkkathman: you know, in konqueror08:45
fatejudgerkkathman: system -> storage media08:45
fatejudgerclick on the computer on the kicker08:45
fatejudgerand click storage media08:45
dsbgcc not included?08:45
dsbbut python is!08:45
dsbhmm perl, lets check08:46
kkathmanfatejudger: ok and whats wrong?08:46
fatejudgerkkathman: nothing shows up08:46
fatejudgerkkathman: does anything show up for you?08:46
kkathmanfatejudger: well i get stuff on mine08:46
fatejudgerwell this is frustrating08:46
fatejudgerI have stuff on my desktop too08:47
kkathmanI just launch Konq, hit F9, and choose ROOT08:47
fatejudgerbut on my laptop, I get nothing08:47
kkathmanthen click on media08:47
dsbprobably a good idea not to include gcc08:47
fatejudgeryeah but that doesn't give you the niceness of media:/08:47
kkathmandsb yeah its a good idea :)08:47
fatejudgerwith the detailed graphs of space08:47
fatejudgerand nice little clicky icons08:47
fatejudgerand the mount options for those of us with NTFS partitions08:47
fatejudgerit just doesn't stack up08:48
fatejudgeror is it measure up08:48
fatejudgerbesides, I want to see my root partition as well08:48
kkathmanfatejudger: so you are saying the Konq isnt the right tool for you then?08:48
fatejudgerkkathman: no, I'm saying that the "media:/" thing works on my desktop, but not on my laptop08:48
kkathmanI see all my drives and remote connections under media08:48
fatejudgerkkathman: and I want it to work on my laptop08:48
kkathmanohhhhh not on your laptop08:49
fatejudger"/media" or "media:/"?08:49
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kkathmanjust /media08:49
kkathmanat least for me08:49
endo602i get a media:/sba1 error with my USB plugged in08:49
endo602but that is a known bug08:50
kkathmanI dunno, but I wonder if you have some corrupted space?08:50
kkathmanyep that is a known bug08:50
fatejudgerkkathman: try typing in "media:/"08:50
fatejudgerand tell me if you see anything08:50
kkathmanok08:51
kkathmanthat doesnt work08:51
fatejudgerkkathman: damn, you know what it must be08:52
fatejudgerkkathman: a bug in the new build of KDE08:52
fatejudgerthis blows08:52
dsbwhy didnt it recognized my hde?08:52
kkathmanI am on 3.4.308:52
fatejudgerkkathman: same here08:52
kkathmannot the new 3.508:52
fatejudgerkkathman: did you upgrade from universe?08:52
kkathmanbut when I just go to Konq and type /media   I get everything08:52
kkathmanfatejudger: I changed the repos per the BreezyUpgradeNotes and did the update and dist-upgrade08:53
kkathmanbut I had a previous version of Hoary08:53
kkathmanand I had installed Hoary clean, then installed kubuntu-desktop08:54
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kkathmanalot of people didnt make sure they had a complete ubuntu core before upgrading08:54
kkathmanI made sure I did the pre-upgrade steps08:55
fatejudgerkkathman: well I installed the Breezy CD08:55
fatejudgerkkathman: and then upgraded08:55
fatejudgerkkathman: I think it's this build 508:55
kkathmanupgraded what?08:55
fatejudgerkkathman: I think someone made a mistake and messed it up08:55
kkathmanKDE?08:55
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fatejudgerkkathman: I enable the universe repos and did a full upgrade08:55
fatejudger*enabled08:55
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kkathmanfatejudger: my repos have main universe multiverse restricted08:56
kkathmanso they were enabled I guess08:56
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dsbok a couple problems right off the bat08:58
dsbunbuntu-artwork not found08:59
dsbmy resolution settings didnt keep08:59
kkathmanIm off to bed...its late...cyall tomorrow :)09:00
fatejudgerkkathman: cya09:01
crimsundsb: typo09:02
crimsundsb: note your extraneous 'n'09:02
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fatejudgercrimsun: can you tell me how to do that keybinding thing?09:03
fatejudgercrimsun: I don't know what to bind the volume keys to09:03
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dsbthats my typo, I installed ubuntu-artwork with adept, but firefox doesnt find it09:05
crimsunfatejudger: is hotkeys not configured for you?09:06
fatejudgercrimsun: hotkeys?09:06
fatejudgercrimsun: I have no idea how to do any of this09:06
fatejudgercrimsun: I only know what the key numbers are09:06
fatejudgercrimsun: and google hasn't been very helpful09:07
crimsunfatejudger: dpkg -l hotkey-setup|grep ^ii09:07
fatejudgercrimsun: is ksysguard working for you?09:08
fatejudgeroutput: "ii  hotkey-setup   0.1-9ubuntu2   auto-configures laptop hotkeys"09:09
crimsunfatejudger: I use GNOME and Xfce generally. KDE doesn't see much action unless there's a sound issue to be debugged.09:09
crimsunfatejudger: have you tried the hotkeys package?09:10
fatejudgercrimsun: no I haven't09:12
fatejudgercrimsun: is that a GUI thing?09:12
fatejudgercrimsun: what is my keyboard type?09:13
fatejudgercrimsun: hotkeys wants to know09:13
crimsunI have no idea what type of keyboard -you- use09:14
fatejudgercrimsun: well I have a Dell Inspiron 110009:14
fatejudgercrimsun: how would I go about finding out?09:14
crimsundid you read the instructions or readme in /usr/share/doc/hotkeys/* ?09:14
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fatejudgercrimsun: I found a package called hotkey-setup which is supposed to autodetect your laptop hardware09:16
fatejudgercrimsun: I don't know how to run it though09:16
crimsunfatejudger: that's installed by default09:16
crimsunfatejudger: you don't run it09:16
fatejudgercrimsun: well none of my keyboards appear in this list09:17
crimsunwhat are the options?09:17
fatejudgercrimsun: I did "hotkeys -l"09:17
fatejudgercrimsun: a bunch of keyboards that aren't from Dell09:17
crimsunlike...?09:17
fatejudgerpastebin?09:18
crimsunsure09:19
fatejudgercrimsun: http://pastebin.com/40269009:19
fatejudgercrimsun: why isn't this functionality built into KDE?09:22
crimsunprobably a design issue09:22
crimsundoesn't belong in KDE, really09:23
crimsunX.Org should take care of it09:23
fatejudgerwhy?09:23
fatejudgerwell that's kind of silly09:23
fatejudgerthere needs to be some kind of GUI thing to take care of it09:23
crimsunit's not silly at all09:23
fatejudgerisn't that how Windows does it?09:23
fatejudgerno, they have keyboard drivers right?09:23
crimsunno one said Windows takes home awards for good software engineering, either09:23
fatejudgerlol09:24
fatejudgerno, if they did I wouldn't be using Linux09:24
crimsungood software engineering doesn't necessarily imply good usability, either09:24
fatejudgertrue true09:24
crimsunthe keycodes are handled by X.Org, as they should be09:24
crimsunKDE should have nothing to do with that beyond configuration09:24
fatejudgerso how exactly do I get this thing working with those keyboards?09:24
crimsundetection? no. Configuration? perhaps.09:24
fatejudgerconfiguration, yes09:25
crimsunI trust you looked on the Web for your model, say on linux-laptop.net?09:25
fatejudgerI went to linux-laptop.net, but they have no Ubuntu guides for the 110009:25
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fatejudgerI thought all I needed were those keycodes09:27
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fatejudgerand then I could bind them to the functions09:27
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andrzej#ubuntu.pl new irc kanal!! For Poland:P09:28
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fatejudgercrimsun: you there?09:30
crimsunhow thoroughly did you search the Web?09:30
crimsunI'm busy atm09:31
crimsunhttp://cs-people.bu.edu/dbera/dell/mdk10.1.html 09:31
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crimsunfirst search return09:31
fatejudgerwhat did you search for?09:31
crimsundell inspiron 1100 xmodmap09:31
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fatejudgeroh09:31
fatejudgerinstead of xmodmap09:31
fatejudgerI said volume keys09:31
fatejudgerthat must be why09:31
fatejudgercrimsun: this won't work09:32
fatejudgercrimsun: this is XFree09:32
berkesanyone awake who wants to help me get my sound system right? 09:32
berkesI ubgraded to breezy and suddenly there is no sound anymore. Maybe i missed a package or so.09:32
fatejudgercrimsun: I need the XOrg functions09:32
fatejudgerberkes: try finding an error first09:32
crimsunfatejudger: the keycodes don't change09:32
fatejudgercrimsun: XF86AudioMute09:33
crimsunthat's not the important part, the section right underneath that is.09:33
berkesfatejudger: there were no errors other then gstreamer and arts complainging they had no access to the alsasink. I fixed that I think09:34
fatejudgercrimsun: how is the part below it important?09:34
berkesIMO its a bad choice to go for gstreamer as default. Since kde cannot deal with it.09:34
crimsunit gives the keycodes09:34
crimsunalso see http://people.debian.org/~dz/i8k/00-README09:34
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crimsunall the hard work has already been done for you09:35
berkesfatejudger: any hints were I should look for more errors?09:35
crimsunberkes: lspci -v|grep -i audio09:35
berkesnote that in HOARY it all worked.09:35
fatejudgercrimsun: I've already seen that09:36
chimaerathe usplash image looks like the screen doesn't have enough colors, is there a boot-parameter or something to change this?09:36
berkescrimsun: that gives nothing strange.09:36
fatejudgercrimsun: what I need are the functions for volume up and down09:36
fatejudgercrimsun: where can I find those?09:36
crimsunfatejudger: I think you have fairly good Google skills09:36
fatejudgercrimsun: XOrg you said?09:36
fatejudgercrimsun: I can't find it09:38
fatejudgercrimsun: can you at least give me something to search for?09:38
crimsunyou have all the keywords already09:39
crimsunberkes: that doesn't help -me-09:39
crimsunI asked because I want the output09:39
berkescrimsun: no. Sorry. ah. ok09:39
berkes0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound   Controller (rev a0) crimsun09:39
crimsunberkes: and the output from ''cat /proc/asound/cards''?09:40
berkes0 [SI7012         ] : ICH - SiS SI701209:40
berkes                     SiS SI7012 with CMI9739 at 0xdc00, irq 1809:40
berkes1 [UART           ] : MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART09:40
berkes                     MPU-401 UART at 0x330, irq 509:40
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berkesive got a feeling its somewhere higher up in the chain where the problem occurs. On the level of Alsa or Gstreamer and Arts09:41
crimsunand the output from ''amixer''?09:41
crimsun->pastebin09:41
berkessure09:42
stevechi09:42
unsurrealhi09:42
stevecwhat is this?09:42
unsurreal?09:42
unsurreal#kubuntu09:42
stevecfirst time i'm here09:42
steveckul09:42
unsurreala deritive of ubuntu09:42
unsurreallinux09:42
stevechow did i get here?09:43
unsurrealdrunk yet?09:43
berkeshttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3497 crimsun09:43
steveci have no clue09:43
stevecdid i?09:43
crimsunkonversation autojoins this channel09:43
naliothstevec: if you use ubuntu, your irc client is set to bring you here09:43
crimsunon kubuntu09:43
unsurrealwhy yes09:43
steveco, i see09:43
stevecmaybe09:43
steveci'm a fresh bird of ubuntu09:44
stevecand linux too09:44
crimsunberkes: well that's not really a surprise. Your PCM volume is set to 0.09:44
stevecwhat is PCM?09:44
berkesstrange. but I saw it too :p09:44
stevecset it to what?09:44
crimsunberkes: furthermore, you need to mute 'IEC958' and 'IEC958 Capture Valid'09:44
berkescrimsun: odd that the upgrade borked -that- though09:45
crimsunberkes: it's a known issue. #15585.09:45
berkescrimsun: ah. ok09:45
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crimsunactually mute anything with IEC958.09:45
crimsunlet me know if those changes resolve your issue09:46
fatejudgercrimsun: ok, I found KDE has this thing called KDE hotkeys09:46
fatejudgercrimsun: but it doesn't09:46
fatejudgercrimsun: work09:46
fatejudgercrimsun: I try pressing FN + Volume Up09:46
fatejudgercrimsun: and nothing shows up09:46
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stevecis it posible that i create my own chat server?09:46
unsurrealyes09:47
FoodcomanGreets.09:47
steveccul09:47
stevechow then09:47
berkesw000t, it did :)09:47
unsurrealhttp://www.unrealircd.com/09:47
berkescrimsun: youre my hero. 09:47
stevecthanks09:48
steveci will be there and check out09:48
crimsunberkes: np09:48
FoodcomanAnyone have a link for Nvidia howto with Breezy?  Having troubles.09:48
crimsunFoodcoman: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:48
FoodcomanGracias.09:49
crimsunde nada09:49
stevecthen  i will be back with somequestions then, (:09:49
fatejudgercrimsun: I can't believe nobody has any documentation on this09:49
crimsunfatejudger: I'm not familiar with KDE hotkeys, sorry09:49
stevecby the way09:50
stevechow do i know whom i'm talking with09:51
fatejudgercrimsun: can you at least point me to the XOrg functions?09:51
fatejudgercrimsun: I can't find any of them09:51
fatejudgercrimsun: I've tried everything in google09:51
stevecand who i'm trying to talk with09:52
FoodcomanRestarting X crimsun!   =)09:52
crimsunfatejudger: those -are- the X.Org functions09:54
crimsunremember that X.Org's fork was largely licensing, not significant underlying structure09:55
fatejudgercrimsun: oh okay09:55
fatejudgerlet me try then09:55
unsurrealstevecc09:55
unsurrealread up on hoiw to use irc09:55
unsurrealgoogle it09:55
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Foodcomancrimsun: Worked like a charm.09:57
crimsunFoodcoman: excellent.09:57
FoodcomanCant hardly read fonts in Vega Strike, but at least I am accelerated.  =)09:57
fatejudgercrimsun: omg, I love you!09:58
fatejudgercrimsun: it works!09:58
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fatejudgercrimsun: now what was that program that read the keypresses?09:59
fatejudgerxev09:59
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crimsunyep09:59
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fatejudgeruh oh, I just pressed the wrong button10:03
fatejudgerI pressed this button CRT/LCD on my keyboard10:03
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fatejudgerand now my screen has this purpley line on top10:03
fatejudgerthis can't be good10:03
fatejudgerI'm gonna restart kdm10:03
crimsunyou may not have to10:04
crimsun...or you could10:04
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fatejudgerwell that was semi-amusing10:05
fatejudgerI was running that xev thing to see what keys I could assign10:05
fatejudgerand it mesed up10:05
fatejudger*messed up10:05
fatejudgercrimsun: do you know of any list where I can see all of those functions for XOrg?10:06
crimsunit'd be in the X.Org source code10:06
crimsunlook in the xkb section10:06
fatejudgercrimsun: do I have that?10:06
fatejudgercrimsun: or is it a package10:06
crimsunyou can install it via Adept10:06
crimsunor you can just browse cvsweb10:06
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fatejudgercrimsun: I don't see it in adept10:08
fatejudgercrimsun: and I have all of the repos10:08
crimsunfatejudger: then browse its cvsweb10:09
fatejudgercrimsun: ok10:09
fatejudgercrimsun: can I tie the keys to actual commands?10:10
fatejudgercrimsun: like my print screen key10:10
crimsunyou can remap virtually anything10:10
fatejudgeryeah but how do I tie it to a command instead of a XOrg function?10:10
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fatejudgercan I say "xmodmap -e "keynumber 112 = ksnapshot"?10:13
fatejudgerand will that open up ksnapshot when I press it?10:14
crimsunno10:16
crimsunxmodmap only understands internal codes and functions10:16
fatejudgercrimsun: how would I go about doing that since I'm sure there isn't a XOrg function for that10:16
crimsunyou probably want a program called xke10:16
fatejudgerxke?10:17
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crimsunhttp://www.ltn.lv/~aivils/eng-projects.html10:17
fatejudgerI can't get Amarok to play my music for some reason10:22
fatejudgerI tried gstreamer and xine10:22
fatejudgernone of which work10:22
fatejudgerI've tried the different sinks in gstreamer10:22
fatejudgerand alsa and artsd in xine10:22
fatejudgerhmm10:23
fatejudgerI think I might have figured it out already10:23
fatejudgerlol10:23
fatejudgercrimsun: umm, are these keyboard codes not loaded when you restart KDE?10:24
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crimsunfatejudger: they're not reloaded if you've modified them, no.10:25
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fatejudgercrimsun: no I mean when I had to restart KDE after that purple screen accident it didn't save the changes10:25
fatejudgercrimsun: I can't change the volume again10:26
crimsunfatejudger: that's what I just said10:26
chimaeraanyone has amrok working with gst? here says playing but it just sits there doing nothing..10:26
crimsunchimaera: I do.10:26
crimsunI configured arts to release the sound device after 2 idle seconds, and I installed amarok-gstreamer. I use alsasink in amarok's engine preferences for gstreamer.10:27
fatejudgercrimsun: how do I set them permanently?10:27
chimaeracrimsun: libxine works, but gst is playing neither ogg nor mp3. i just get some strange gst-engine msg in the status-bar which i'm unable to retrieve.10:27
crimsunfatejudger: put them in a ~/.Xmodmap, and xmodmap -merge ~/.Xmodmap whenever you start KDE10:27
fatejudgercrimsun: I understand that you can start scripts in the "Autostart" folder in .kde or something10:28
crimsunchimaera: if you use the gstreamer engine, you need the gstreamer0.8-mad installed10:28
fatejudgercrimsun: how do I write a script to do that so I can xmodmap -merge10:28
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crimsunfatejudger: lots of examples online...10:28
crimsunit's basically two lines10:29
chimaeracrimsun: well, ogg isn't workin gas well..  besides that gst.mad is installed ;)10:29
crimsun#! /bin/sh10:29
crimsunxmodmap -merge ~/.Xmodmap10:29
fatejudgerand I have to make it executable10:29
crimsunyes10:29
fatejudgerwhat if I wanted to mount a drive using that same technique10:29
fatejudgersay10:29
fatejudgermount //computername/foldername /media/folder10:30
crimsunfatejudger: I'm pretty sure KDE has a mechanism to mount volumes10:30
fatejudgerbut I need root10:30
fatejudgercrimsun: not network volumes10:30
crimsunsmb://stuff ?10:30
mornfallwibble10:30
mornfallif anyone has comments wrt adept 2.0 direct them at me@mornfall.net, if you have (feature) wishes, bugs.kde.org, thanks =)10:31
fatejudgercrimsun: yes10:31
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fatejudgercrimsun: is ~/.Xmodmap a file or a folder?10:32
crimsunit's a file.10:32
crimsunchimaera: what about gstreamer0.8-vorbis10:32
fatejudgerthat package is supposed to be installed by default crimsun10:33
chimaeracrimsun: also installed. 10:34
crimsunchimaera: does it work with gst-launch-0.8?10:35
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chimaeracrimsun: http://nopaste.debianforum.de/141710:38
fatejudgercrimsun: mounting network folders requires root priviledges10:38
fatejudgercrimsun: how do I get root prividges with the mounting command without manually typing my password into the startup file10:39
fatejudgercrimsun: which would be extremely insecure10:39
crimsunfatejudger: look at sudoers10:39
crimsunyou'll need to use visudo to modify it so that mount is in the NOPASSWD category10:40
crimsunit should be the only one in the NOPASSWD category for you10:40
fatejudgercrimsun: visudo?10:41
fatejudgercrimsun: how do I do all of this?10:41
crimsunyou need to read some man pages :-)10:41
crimsunI have to head home from work now.10:41
fatejudgercrimsun: you were at work this whole time??10:42
fatejudgercrimsun: talking with everyone on IRC?10:42
asranieli just ripped a CD with konqueror, it tells me that the mp3 file has a length of 30 minutes, but in fact its only 5 minutes long or so, someone else has this bug?10:42
chimaerai take it that kubuntu doesn't use dmix by default?10:43
crimsunfatejudger: yes, watching my research compile away10:43
fatejudgerchimaera: no, it doesn't10:43
fatejudgercrimsun: your research?10:43
crimsunchimaera: yes, it does.10:43
crimsunfatejudger: yes, my research. I do grid computing research with Globus and Condor.10:44
fatejudgercrimsun: never heard of them10:44
fatejudgercrimsun: grid computer, is that like distributed computing?10:45
fatejudger*computing10:45
crimsunglobus.org, cs.wisc.edu/condor10:45
crimsunyes, it's related to distributed computing10:45
fatejudgerohhh10:45
fatejudgerSETI@home10:45
fatejudgerright?10:45
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crimsunseti/boinc is just one particular application using the distributed/grid paradigms10:46
fatejudgeryeah, but that's the type of stuff you design right?10:46
crimsunnot really10:46
fatejudgerbut that's the technique you use10:46
chimaeracrimsun: ok, fixed. i had to set the device to "plug-dmix"10:46
fatejudgergrid computing10:46
spiralhi10:46
chimaeracrimsun: thanks for your help.10:46
crimsunchimaera: np10:47
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crimsunfatejudger: there are many different techniques10:47
crimsunmy thesis was and dissertation is on remote compilation and security issues10:47
fatejudgercrimsun: sounds complicated and fancy10:48
fatejudgercrimsun: do you use C++ or something?10:48
fatejudgercrimsun: it has to be some really efficient language10:48
crimsunC and Java, some Python10:48
fatejudgerJava?10:48
fatejudgerthat's surprising10:48
crimsunnot at all surprising10:48
crimsunGlobus has a very strong Java base10:48
fatejudgerI'm going to try and learn Ruby tonight10:48
fatejudgerC++ frustrates me10:49
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crimsunC++ is easy to learn but very difficult to master10:49
fatejudgersomething like that10:49
crimsunperhaps no more so than any other language10:49
fatejudgerI've only taken 2 semesters of it10:49
fatejudgerso I'm not that good10:49
fatejudgerI just started using QT10:49
crimsunQt is very elegant imo10:50
fatejudgerit's beautiful10:50
fatejudgersockets10:50
fatejudgerand signals10:50
crimsun(I probably shouldn't say that since I'm involved with Ubuntu ;-)10:50
fatejudgerlol10:50
chimaeracrimsun: one thing to fix, though: how to set teh audio-dev for kaffeine?10:50
fatejudgercrimsun: why aren't you a KDE person then?10:50
fatejudgercrimsun: most of the C++ QT camp go over there10:50
fatejudgercrimsun: it's so much better than C + GTK10:50
crimsunfatejudger: the GNOME aesthetic appeals more 10:51
fatejudgereww10:51
crimsunchimaera: kaffeine-xine or kaffeine-gstreamer?10:51
fatejudgerI don't think the two words belong together10:51
fatejudgerGnome and aesthetic10:51
crimsunfatejudger: difference of opinion. Always.10:51
fatejudgerI'd rather use Fluxbox than gnome10:51
fatejudgerbut that's my opinion10:51
fatejudgerI love elegant code and graphics10:51
crimsunI used fluxbox for about a year and blackbox for years before that.10:52
fatejudgerthat's why there are tons of DEs10:52
fatejudgera DE for every person10:52
crimsunexactly. Same with widget kits.10:52
crimsunif I may be so crude to pigeonhole Qt into that.10:52
chimaeracrimsun: kaffein-gst..10:52
crimsunchimaera: should be able to set that in the preferences10:53
fatejudgercrimsun: all visudo does is check for other files10:53
fatejudgercrimsun: I don't understand how it works10:53
chimaeracrimsun: no, i can only select the sink..10:53
fatejudgercrimsun: I thought you'd tell it which files to give root to10:54
crimsunchimaera: selecting alsasink is sufficient, since ALSA is dmixed by default.10:54
crimsunvisudo is the conffile10:54
fatejudgeroh geez, you guys are doing dmixing?10:54
chimaeracrimsun: which doesn't work here, obviously. i have to set the device to plug_dmix..10:54
fatejudgerI wanted to do that for awhile to make my sound lagfree10:54
fatejudgerdmix isn't very good with KDE10:54
fatejudgerGnome is better for sound ATM10:54
crimsunchimaera: can you choose a Custom one?10:55
crimsunchimaera: or at least specify a device for alsasink?10:55
fatejudgerprobably because all of the technies code with Gnome and all of the designers code with KDE10:55
fatejudgerwell10:55
fatejudger*code for10:55
chimaeracrimsun: no, that's the problem..10:55
crimsunfatejudger: well, afaik, KDE4 will use gstreamer.10:55
crimsunwhich can only be a good thing10:55
fatejudgercrimsun: yeah, that will be VERY nice10:55
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fatejudgercrimsun: lagfree sound to compete with Windows is a good thing10:55
fatejudgercrimsun: although KDE 4 is so far away10:56
fatejudgercrimsun: Dapper will be out before KDE 4 is10:56
crimsunwell, lag-free is another issue altogether10:56
crimsunlots of architectural issues for sound for lag-free to be a reality10:56
fatejudgercrimsun: well if they tie gstreamer in with alsa10:56
fatejudgercrimsun: alsa has that plugin to mix right in alsa10:57
fatejudgercrimsun: which cuts way down on lag10:57
crimsundmix has several high latency paths still10:57
fatejudgercrimsun: what is that plugin called?10:57
crimsunit's being worked on10:57
fatejudgeroh10:57
fatejudgeryeah10:57
fatejudgerthat is dmix isn't it10:57
fatejudgeranyhow10:57
crimsunchimaera: you can't? hmm, any that give you the option?10:58
fatejudgercrimsun: I can't figure out the syntax for this visudo thing10:58
fatejudgercrimsun: the only thing I've figured out so far is I need to edit this conf file somehow10:58
chimaerawell, i can set the device in codeine, in amarok but not in kaffeine. 10:58
crimsunfatejudger: man visudo10:58
crimsunchimaera: are you using a custom-crafted /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc ?10:59
chimaeracrimsun: neither. alsa dmixes w/o asoundrc if pointing to plug:dmix10:59
fatejudgercrimsun: I already did that, it doesn't explain anything, just the syntax10:59
fatejudgercrimsun: I need to know how this program works11:00
crimsunfatejudger: the syntax -is- the important part11:00
fatejudgercrimsun: do I tell it exactly what file I want to have root privilidges11:00
fatejudgercrimsun: well I know that, but all it says is how to read from some file or something11:00
fatejudgercrimsun: and the rest are just variations on that single command11:00
fatejudgercrimsun: but you don't write commands11:00
fatejudgercrimsun: it's a conf file you edit11:00
fatejudgercrimsun: I need info what to stick in that file11:01
crimsundid you read sudoers(5)?11:01
fatejudgerwhat is sudoers(5)?11:02
fatejudgercrimsun: cmon, I'm sure you know how to write these commands11:02
fatejudgercrimsun: can't you just at least tell me what the heck this program does?11:02
crimsunvery quickly, here's what you need to do: You need to put /bin/mount into a specific Cmnd_Alias11:02
fatejudgercrimsun: ok11:03
crimsunthen you need to put that Cmnd_Alias into your line with the NOPASSWD parameter11:03
crimsunsudoers(5) is the man page for sudoers: man 5 sudoers11:03
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fatejudgercrimsun: ohhh I get it11:04
fatejudgercrimsun: I need to tell it that the command "mount" doesn't need to supply a password11:04
fatejudgercrimsun: but isn't that horribly unsafe?11:04
crimsunchimaera: ALSA is set to dmix by default as of ALSA 1.0.9. We've also configured it to dmix the first 9 devices.11:04
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fatejudgercrimsun: you work on ALSA?11:04
crimsunfatejudger: it's only allowed for users in the admin group if you do it the way I suggested11:04
crimsunfatejudger: yes11:04
fatejudgercrimsun: holy crap, that's great11:05
fatejudgercrimsun: how many projects do you work on exactly?11:05
crimsunone or two, not many11:05
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crimsunI'm a professor. That eats up most of my time.11:05
fatejudgerComp Sci?11:05
crimsunyep11:05
fatejudgerwait11:05
fatejudgerso you teach11:05
fatejudgerand you do Open Source11:06
crimsunyep11:06
fatejudgerand you do research?11:06
crimsunyep11:06
_mariuxmariux@nylon:/etc/acpi$ sudo echo "0" > /sys/class/net/eth1/device/power/state11:06
_mariuxbash: /sys/class/net/eth1/device/power/state: Permission denied11:06
_mariuxwhy is that?11:06
fatejudgercrimsun: what don't you do?11:06
crimsun_mariux: incorrect syntax.11:06
fatejudgercrimsun: lol11:06
crimsun_mariux: echo "0" | sudo tee /sys/class/net/eth1/device/power/state11:06
fatejudgercrimsun: what college do you teach at?11:06
_mariuxahh, thanks!11:06
crimsunfatejudger: North Carolina A&T11:06
crimsun_mariux: although I think you want echo -n 011:07
fatejudgerthat's far away from here11:07
_mariuxyes :)11:07
fatejudgercrimsun: so have you ever had a student know you from some IRC channel or Open Source project?11:07
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crimsunfatejudger: yes, a couple11:08
fatejudgercrimsun: do you teach the more advanced classes or the beginning ones?11:08
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crimsunfatejudger: OS and programming language concepts11:08
azertyuuuhey all, if i use Adept i see that 4071 packages are available for download, althoug, i used to have 65000 available packages ??? (e.g. i can't find j2re, lesstif....anymore) 11:09
fatejudgercrimsun: most of the Comp Sci professors that I've known have are all extreme OOP supporters11:09
fatejudgercrimsun: you seem more practical11:09
fatejudgercrimsun: you must be a good professor11:09
morrowhmmm any hint on how to downgrade from kde beta2 to beta1?11:09
crimsunfatejudger: I worked for IBM, and so I've been "tainted."11:09
fatejudgercrimsun: ah, that would explain it11:10
crimsunOOP isn't the best for everything.11:10
fatejudgercrimsun: no, it isn't11:10
_mariuxcrimsun: then thing is that my wireless card gets powered down when i suspend11:10
fatejudgercrimsun: but it's pretty damn good for a lot of things11:10
_mariuxand not powered up again11:10
crimsunmorrow: you need to pin your apt priorities to the older packages. man 5 apt_preferences11:10
_mariuxbut that commando doesnt seem to help11:10
fatejudgercrimsun: QT is probably one of the best examples of OOP at its best11:10
fatejudgercrimsun: great documentation, and great functionality11:11
crimsun_mariux: which 802.11 chipset?11:11
_mariuxipw220011:11
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_mariuxit workes if i hibernate and bring it up11:11
crimsunfatejudger: OOP has its benefits, surely, and Qt is an excellent kit.11:11
fatejudgercrimsun: do you teach your students about QT?11:11
fatejudgercrimsun: do any colleges teach QT for that matter?11:11
fatejudgercrimsun: or GTK?11:11
crimsunfatejudger: I mention it if they ask. I don't teach any UI classes.11:12
fatejudgercrimsun: are the UI professors pretty knowledgeable in that area or do they do more OS specific UI design?11:12
crimsun_mariux: not sure what you seem to be saying is the issue11:12
_mariuxafter suspend the wlancard isnt enabled again, but it is after suspend11:13
crimsunfatejudger: HCI researchers and professors are generally more concerned about other issues, but certainly toolkit design is applicable11:13
_mariuxso i am looking in /etc/acpi/ right now to try to see why11:13
morrowcrimsun: is there a Pin: line for matching all kde debs?11:13
_mariuxthough there is no suspend.sh there11:13
crimsun_mariux: there shouldn't be. It's called sleep.h11:14
crimsun.sh, rather11:14
crimsunthere should be an /etc/acpi/suspend.d/, though11:14
fatejudgercrimsun: Cmnd_Alias ::= mount = Cmnd_List11:15
_mariuxcorrect11:15
fatejudgercrimsun: is that the correct command?11:15
_mariuxsleep.sh doesnt seem to tough my suspend11:15
_mariuxthe reason i even care about suspend is that kde automatically suspends my laptop on login which is very anoying11:16
fatejudgeris someone here having trouble with suspend or something?11:16
_mariuxits klaptopdeamons fault, though i dont know why it does it11:16
fatejudgerauto suspend?11:16
fatejudgermy laptop doesn't have that problem11:16
fatejudgerI edited my suspend properties in the GUI11:16
_mariuxme too11:16
fatejudgerthe laptop power management area11:16
fatejudgerjust check all of the boxes11:16
fatejudgeron the ACPI tab11:16
_mariuxfatejudger: try to run klaptop_check11:16
fatejudgerand then reload that same program11:16
fatejudger_mariux: me?11:17
_mariuxthat suspends my laptop11:17
_mariuxyes11:17
fatejudgerwhy?11:17
_mariuxthough i really dont think that app is supposed to do so11:17
fatejudgerif I do that I'll get disconnected11:17
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fatejudger_mariux: just go back into that GUI thing and tell it to suspend when you close the lid11:17
crimsunfatejudger: you need to use the fully qualified path for mount, i.e., /bin/mount11:17
_mariuxwhy would that change the problem?11:18
fatejudgercrimsun: Cmnd_Alias ::= bin/mount = Cmnd_List11:18
fatejudgercrimsun: would that one be correct then?11:18
_mariuxthe problem is that whenever klaptop_daemon starts it suspends my laptop11:18
fatejudger_mariux: well that doesn't make any sense at all11:18
_mariuxi know :)11:18
fatejudger_mariux: are you using KDE betas?11:18
crimsunfatejudger: you need to give it command group name.11:18
crimsunRead the man page carefully.11:19
_mariux3.4.3-breezy11:19
crimsungoing home.11:19
Tm_T:(11:19
Tm_TKDE 3.5 <311:19
_mariuxfatejudger: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11445311:19
fatejudgercrimsun: crap11:20
fatejudgercrimsun: I can't figure this one out11:20
fatejudgercrimsun: I give up11:20
fatejudgercrimsun: this manual is just way too complicated for me at 2:20 AM11:21
fatejudgerI need sleep...11:21
_mariuxmy laptop also automagically suspends when i click apply in the poweroptions in kcontrol11:21
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_mariux(probably klaptopdaemon restarting)11:21
azertyuuu!lesstif11:21
ubotuazertyuuu: Are you smoking crack?11:21
azertyuuu!lesstif11:22
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fatejudger_mariux: ok, that's just weird11:23
_mariuxi know :)11:23
fatejudger_mariux: what laptop do you have?11:23
_mariuxi tured off suspend-support now and clicked  apply11:23
fatejudger_mariux: maybe it just isn't compatible11:23
_mariuxit flickered the screen and made it full of artifacts for 10sec11:23
_mariuxlooked like it was trying to suspend it unsucessfully.11:24
fatejudgerlol11:24
_mariuxits a 155711:24
fatejudger_mariux: mine suspends perfectly11:24
fatejudger_mariux: what the hell is a 1557?11:24
_mariuxaopen barebone11:24
fatejudger?11:24
_mariuxthat alot of webshops reconfigure and sell11:24
fatejudgeroh ok11:24
fatejudgerI see11:25
fatejudgerI have a Dell11:25
fatejudgereveryone supports Dell11:25
fatejudgerbecause Dell kicks ass11:25
_mariuxin 5.04 hibernate didnt work at all11:25
fatejudgeryeah well Breezy has tons of laptop support now11:25
fatejudgermore than almost any distro11:25
_mariuxbut in 5.10 they both work great11:25
_mariuxonly it autosuspends in some cases :)11:25
fatejudgeryeah, that's a problem11:26
Foodcomanexit11:26
fatejudgerexit?11:26
fatejudgerlol11:26
_mariuxbut i have to go to eat breakfast now11:26
_mariuxbrb11:26
azertyuuucan i install a tar.gz pack in kubuntu ?11:26
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azertyuuu!tar.gz11:27
ubotuazertyuuu: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:27
student#bytom11:27
fatejudgerazertyuuu: no11:28
fatejudgerazertyuuu: you unzip11:28
fatejudgeruntar11:29
fatejudgeruntar!11:29
azertyuuunever mind11:30
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_mariuxther11:40
brizzioje veux le site d'aide francais me'rci11:40
brizzioqq peux m'aider please pour aller sur le salon fr11:42
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erikstiyou guys use linuxdcpp or what?11:45
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LausiHallihallo12:06
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azertyuuuhow can i remove opera ? 12:07
azertyuuudpkg -r opera ?12:07
azertyuuudpkg -purge opera ?12:07
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Mars_^Do anybody knows how can i change colours of text in xchat?12:08
Mars_^?12:09
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dragonkhhi12:14
dragonkhanyone know how to stop my ibook closing the eth0 when I shut the lid ?12:14
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karltkwould anyone happen to know why the thunderbird file type associations are greyed out? google doesn't seem to offer any clue.12:27
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amarockhow do i change splashscreen of kubuntu?12:29
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thechillanyone in?12:31
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ckdhow can i install Kword on my Ubuntu 5.4 ?12:38
amarockckd: via synaptic:)12:39
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ckdits not in synaptic12:41
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apokryphosckd: enable the Universe repository12:42
apokryphos!repos12:42
ubotusources is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)12:42
ckdhow ?12:43
ckd?12:44
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ckdHELP12:45
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amarockwhat are raid devices? and md devices? what system services can i safely disable? im on simple pc..12:45
amarockckd: have patience......lemme see12:46
azertyuuuhow can i reconfigure grub (listordening/boottime ) ?12:47
ckddont know what u mean12:47
amarockckd: hmm..its not in my repos too......is it a part of kdeedu?12:47
amarockazertyuuu: by editing menu.lst12:48
ckdits fro Koffice12:48
amarockckd: then install koffice pkg i guess......12:49
amarockdoes kubuntu breezy seem slow to startup and shutdown to anyone here? atleast slower than hoary?12:51
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ckdhow can i do this =12:51
ckd?12:51
amarockckd: i dunno dude......i cant find koffice too...do u really need kword? try abiword:)12:53
ckdi need kword for pdf eding12:54
amarocki see......12:54
ckdthx12:55
amarockckd: ;)12:56
thoreauputic!info koffice12:57
ubotukoffice: (KDE Office Suite), section kde, is optional. Version: 1:1.4.1-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 76 kB12:57
thoreauputicit's in main, evidently12:57
thoreauputicin breezy anyway12:58
ckd?12:58
ckdwhere is it12:58
amarockhelp! synaptic is giving errors! says couldnt stat pkg list for all repos!!!12:59
thoreauputicckd: are you using the latest version of (k)ubuntu? If so just open adept or synaptic and install koffice12:59
amarockhelp! help! synaptic is giving errors! says couldnt stat pkg list for all repos!!!01:00
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ckdi using ubuntu 5.0401:01
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thoreauputicckd: in that case you need to enable universe01:01
thoreauputic!repos01:02
ubotuI heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)01:02
thoreauputicckd: read those about enabling repositories01:02
thoreauputic!info koffice hoary01:02
ubotukoffice: (KDE Office Suite), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 1:1.3.5-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 13 kB, Installed size: 52 kB01:02
thoreauputicckd: 5.04 is "hoary"01:02
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ckd?01:05
ckdhoary?01:05
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thoreauputicckd: I suggest some basic reading -  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation   and http://help.ubuntu,com01:06
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el-stupidoi dont see my printer in System/Settins/Printer01:19
el-stupido:/01:19
el-stupidohow do i install it?01:20
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dragonkhwhere is the DocumentRoot set for apache ?01:22
Kamping_Kaiser /var/www01:23
dragonkhno I mean where do you set that it should point there?01:23
Kamping_Kaiserit should by default01:23
dragonkhno I dont want it therte01:23
Kamping_Kaiserbut im not sure how to change that stuff01:23
Kamping_Kaiseroh, i see01:23
dragonkhI want it to go elsewhere01:23
Kamping_Kaisergrep for DocumentRoot in teh config file01:24
dragonkhnot in the apache2.conf file01:24
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el-stupidowhy isnt my printer installed lol and how do i install it?01:36
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hanpuAnyone who can help with a soundcard related problem?01:42
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el-stupido dont see my printer installed in the settings.. its connected and it wont give me the option to add printer even in Admin mode01:44
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Friedenhello01:51
Friedencan someone help me please..?01:52
maneverujust ask01:53
Friedenok01:54
Friedenwell im unable to connect to a dial-up connection using KPPP01:54
Friedenit doesnt actually get to the dialing stage01:54
Friedenit just sits at "Initializing modem"01:54
Friedenim wondering if it has to do with this error i get every time i launch KPPP... "/etc/resolv.conf is missing or cant be read"01:55
Friedenany ideas on why i cant connect?01:55
Kamping_KaiserFrieden: can you 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'?01:56
Friedenhanvt tried it01:56
Kamping_Kaiserhave a try. 01:57
Friedenmkay01:57
Friedenok brb01:57
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kairu0hey all02:08
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ph8lo all02:08
kairu0i'm new to kubuntu but not ubuntu. i installed w32codecs and divxdecore but i cant see divx files02:09
ph8my print jobs are totally stuck and it's very annoying ;)02:09
ph8For some reason it thinks my printer is in 'on hold' mode02:09
ph8i've rebooted, many times and it works perfectly in windows (:() - it was working perfectly until yesterday when i tried to cancel a print job that was half complete02:09
apokryphoskairu0: are you on i386?02:10
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apokryphosthough, all you need to play divx is xine/mpalyer02:10
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HeinerichamaroK hangs while trying to play a shoutcast-stream... :-/ (5.04)02:12
kairu0apokryphos: yes i am02:15
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apokryphoskairu0: have you installed xine?02:16
kairu0apokryphos: i installed kaffeine-xine but not xine02:17
apokryphostry it02:17
ph8any ideas about my problem guys?02:20
kairu0apokryphos: i just installed mplayer.. i think itll work :)02:20
ph8it's an HP 1410 if that makes any difference, i just want kjobviewer/the system to think that it's ready to print again (which it is)02:20
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libbenapokryphos: ive made make uninstall02:23
libbenbut how can i check if its really gone?02:23
libbeni want something like dpkg -c foo.deb02:23
apokryphosif there were no errors, it really was gone02:23
libbenwell, there are some warnings02:23
libbenlike Makefile:814: warning: overriding commands for target `clean-bcheck'02:24
apokryphosignore warnings02:24
libbenbut thats shouldent be a problem02:24
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apokryphosonly look for errors02:24
libbeni should type sudo make uninstall also =)02:25
apokryphosif you prefixed to /usr, then yes, obviously02:25
ph8kubuntu thinks my printer is on hold when it's not - anything i try to print just gets queued - can someone help?02:27
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hettarmonotone: warning: input buffer for peer localhost is overfull after netcmd dispatch02:36
hettaris that bad ?02:36
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uniq_hi.02:41
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apokryphosuniq_: you're alive :D02:51
apokryphoshaven't seen you around for.... quite a long time =)02:51
MenZa`Neither have I02:51
MenZa`...I wonder why, idling here for about a week now :D?02:51
MenZa`;)02:52
MenZa`Now, where are my glasses...02:52
_mariuxso, does updating to 3.5.2-b2 actually work?02:52
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endo602apokryphos: can i pm you?02:53
apokryphosendo602: if it's Kubuntu-related, here's as good a place as any. It's always better to ask the channel direct ;-)02:54
endo602ok02:54
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hettarendo602: did you get moodin working ?02:56
endo602yes02:57
endo602thanks02:57
endo602:)02:57
endo602well it dont work on 3.502:57
endo602but its installed02:57
hettarsorry I didn't reply immediately but I was out for most of the day02:57
apokryphosworked fine when I tried it on 3.502:57
apokryphosare you sure you installed it correctly?02:57
hettarworks fine on 3.5b2 here as well02:58
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fk6hi, I must say kubuntu really works nice, congrats to the devs, as an old gentoo user, very easy and fast to install, with many good default options :)03:23
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fk6we are still struggling a bit with arabic file names and some font issues, but when we solve those, we will start moving some ministries to it :)03:24
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fk6so thanks guys for providing us with such a nice system!03:24
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Blippohi, someone replaced in kubuntu utf-8 by iso-somewhat? i have problems there still03:26
tobyIs anyone able to play monopoly at http://www.games.com/playgames/monopoly/lobby.jsp using Konqueror or Firefox?03:27
toby(just click guest)03:27
tobyIn firefox, the page loads but the game screen is garbled and unusable. In Konqueror, it gets stuck midway through loading03:27
toby(I have J2RE and Flash ;)03:28
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Blipposomeone any idea why gtk would use utf-8 while kde uses iso-8859-15 at my system?03:32
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Kamping_Kaisergnome is based around utf-8, could be related to taht03:33
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Blippoinstalled gnome additionally in kubuntu and there i dont have the problem 03:33
tobyIs anyone able to try that link? I need to know if the problem is with me (so I should continue troubleshooting) or is with the site (so I should complain)03:34
Blippowhere would i get rid of utf-8 in gnome???03:34
Kamping_KaiserBlippo: you wouldnt03:34
Blippoups03:34
Kamping_Kaisertoby: seems to work here03:35
tobyThanks: which browser Kaiser?03:35
Blippohmm, e.g. gimp writes filenames as utf-8 which gets messed up when read by kde :-(03:35
Kamping_Kaisertoby: firefox03:36
Kamping_KaiserBlippo: :(03:36
tobyKaiser: For me, in firefox, the game loads, but the buttons are missing text and the graphics have glitches, making it unplayable. Sorry to be persistant, but are you sure it's working right?03:37
Kamping_Kaiserwhich game?03:38
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tobyMonopoly. Things like: The list of users is blank, just has some coloured squares in it.03:39
tobyIn the actual game (spectating) the game pieces leave trails as the move around03:39
tobyButtons missing text.03:39
Kamping_Kaisertoby: im not able to use it. i think network issues for me :( 03:41
Kamping_Kaiserso not sure about your prob03:41
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tobyOk. Thankyou for trying. Maybe someone else will be able to try it?03:43
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sorush20guys how do I install new fonts in Kubuntu03:45
apokryphosfrom systemsettings03:45
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endo602apokryphos: you still around?03:56
apokryphosfor a bit, yes03:56
endo602i relogins03:57
endo602should i try and replug the usb in?03:57
apokryphosyes03:57
endo602same error03:58
apokryphosI'm afraid I can't help then, sorry03:58
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uniq_apokryphos: hi, sorry i'm this slow. my connection died and i went out to do a few things.04:18
sorush20guys is there a fonts manager anywhere?04:18
uniq_in hoary there is one in the control center.04:19
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fiero#leave04:20
fieroquit04:21
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_xuniLwhat did i need to install for playing mp3?04:23
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toby_xuniL: not tried it, but the mp3 gstreamer plugin maybe04:24
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_xuniLk04:24
tobythen run gst-register and the amarok04:24
tobybut i've not tried it on Kubuntu!04:25
_xuniLthere where a page for this..04:25
_xuniLk04:25
_xuniLdone it once on kubuntu but dont remember :D04:25
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skullbockslo tlm04:28
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PeakerHey, what script runs in KDM's login? .bashrc only runs when bash is invoked. Will .profile be run when startkde is ran by kdm?04:31
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skullbockskkun as eu des pb de son  en passant a breezy ?04:32
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_xuniLhow do i change permissions on a hard disk?04:38
skullbockschmod ?04:39
_xuniLk04:39
tobychmod -r to make it recursive throughout directories04:40
_xuniLwhat do i write if i whant every one able to read files?04:41
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skullbocks554 in the third position 04:42
skullbockssory04:42
skullbocks55404:42
skullbocksforget the end ;)04:42
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skullbocks664 would be better04:43
skullbocksactualy04:43
_xuniL663?04:43
_xuniL664?04:43
Kamping_Kaiser_xuniL: do you want just read, or write as well?04:44
skullbocks664 -> rw-rw-r--04:44
Kamping_Kaiseradn do you want apps to be executablle is the other thing?04:44
_xuniLkamping_kaiser i just whant to read...04:45
Kamping_Kaiser_xuniL: then all files 44404:45
_xuniLits my windows drive04:45
Kamping_Kaiserand directorys 11104:45
Kamping_Kaiser*55504:45
Kamping_Kaiseroh, in that case mount ro04:45
Kamping_Kaiser(read only)04:46
Kamping_Kaisermuch easyer :)04:46
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_xuniLwrite mount command04:46
skullbockssome had sound problem after updating to breezy ?04:47
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Kamping_Kaiser_xuniL: in your /etc/fstab, change the windows line so it had 'defaults,ro,otherstuff'04:47
skullbocksi have no more sound but everything seems to be properly installed ...04:47
_xuniLKamping_Kaiser should options= defaults dump=ro and pass = otherstuff04:50
skullbocksnobody ?04:50
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_xuniLnot getting sound?04:50
Kamping_Kaiser_xuniL: there should be no '=04:50
Kamping_Kaiser' in the fstab04:50
skullbocksyep04:51
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_xuniLkamping_kaiser huh?04:51
_xuniLgett the gsteamer plugins and codecc04:51
_xuniLskullbocks04:51
Kamping_Kaiser_xuniL: can you paste the output of "cat /etc/fstab" to pastebin somewhere?04:51
_xuniLkubuntu.pastebin.se04:52
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_xuniLkubuntu.pastebin.com04:52
_xuniLhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/40295404:52
_xuniLw8 thats my fstab04:53
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Kamping_Kaiser /dev/hda2   /windows    ntfs  defaults    0   004:53
Kamping_Kaiser_xunil, because its NTFS it has to be read only anyway, but you need to add 'umask 755' or similar to the line (i forget exactly)04:54
Tm_Tumask=004:54
Tm_T:p04:54
Tm_Tfull rights to all04:54
Tm_Texcept ro system04:54
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_xuniLwhere should i put it?04:55
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Tm_Tdefaults,ro,umask=004:55
Tm_Tok?04:55
Kamping_Kaiser_xuniL: ask Tm_T04:55
Kamping_Kaiser;)'04:55
Tm_T:p04:56
Tm_Tand hi Kamping_Kaiser 04:56
Kamping_Kaiserhi tm :)04:56
Tm_Teh04:56
_xuniLTm_t like this04:57
_xuniLhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/40296304:57
_xuniL?04:57
Tm_Tyou should not shorten shorted nick ;)04:57
Tm_Tno, defaults,ro,umask=004:57
Tm_Tthey are all options04:57
_xuniLhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/40296504:58
_xuniLlike that=04:58
_xuniL?04:58
_xuniLis it read only now04:58
_xuniL?04:58
Tm_Tyup04:59
Tm_Tforced to04:59
_xuniLgood04:59
Tm_Tntfs is "always" read only04:59
_xuniLthx04:59
Tm_Tand yes, correctly04:59
Tm_T:)04:59
_xuniLyou can force changes... :/05:00
apokryphosuniq_: no problem; how've you been?05:00
_xuniLdo i need to restart for getting the changes?05:00
Tm_Tno really05:01
Tm_Tnow just mount it05:01
Tm_Tsaying "mount /dev/hda2"05:01
_xuniLdont i need to unmount it?05:02
Tm_Tuh?05:03
Tm_Tit's mounted already?05:03
_xuniLyeah at /windows05:03
Tm_Tyse, umount05:03
Tm_Tif you need to get those changes05:03
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_xuniLyay it works...05:04
_xuniLthxx05:04
Tm_Tnp05:04
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_xuniLany one know then ubuntu update amarok to the newst version?05:06
_xuniLthe one right now are useing almost full cpu...05:06
Tm_Thmm05:06
Tm_TI use self compiled svn version05:06
Tm_Tjust compiled _newest_05:06
_xuniLk...05:07
Tm_Tfifth time today :p05:07
_xuniLthen i remove the one i have now05:07
Tm_Twell, what version it is?05:07
_xuniL1.305:07
Tm_T1.3. what?05:07
_xuniL1.3.105:07
Tm_Tah yes05:07
Tm_Tofcourse05:07
Tm_Tyou would like to compile yourself?05:08
_xuniLwell i wouldent say like ....05:09
Tm_T:p05:09
_xuniLif i use the get-amarok-svn.sh do i need to uninstall amarok?05:10
Tm_Tyes,05:11
Tm_Thmm, never used that script myself05:11
_xuniLk05:11
_xuniLto bad :/05:11
Tm_TI have my own scripts :p05:11
_xuniLheh05:12
apokryphos1.3.3 was recently released.. not that great a need to use svn05:12
Tm_Tapokryphos: well, 1.3.4 is out(?)05:12
Tm_Tnot yet05:13
Tm_TString Freeze until 1.3.4 !!05:13
Tm_T;)05:13
ZeepamaroK?05:13
Tm_Tand yes, always good reason to use svn05:13
apokryphosheh, and I thought they were going straight to 1.405:13
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ZeepThere is going to be a 1.3.5, too05:14
Tm_Tbecause there's every day something better(or worse ;p) when we are talking of amaroK05:14
ZeepAccording to their roadmap05:14
apokryphosTm_T: I love the fact that the devs are active, but svn isn't great for everyone; stability etc 8)05:14
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apokryphos1.3.5 too... ouch. Lodda bugfixes05:14
Zeephttp://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/RoadMap05:14
apokryphosthough I love the way they make feature changes in 1.3.5 too :P05:14
apokryphoser, 1.3.x I mean05:15
Tm_Tapokryphos: =)05:15
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Tm_Tapokryphos: well, I always(?) use newest svn and it's more stable than releases in most of time05:16
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_xuniLthe svn program what is it called in apt-get?05:16
Zeepsubversion?05:16
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apokryphosTm_T: haven't used svn lately, but it would generally be ok. Still, some checkouts I'd be left with inaccessible configure amarok, broken ipod handling (though this happened in actual versions too), and other tinklings05:16
apokryphosZeep: yes05:17
Zeepkdesvn - A Subversion client for KDE05:17
apokryphosnever used that; might try it out someday05:17
apokryphosthe commands aren't hard to type :P05:17
ZeepTake a look at their roadmap05:17
ZeepiPod-support is going to be corrected with 1.405:17
Zeepfinally ;-(05:17
apokryphosit's working currently -- fixed in 1.3.3 IIRC05:18
apokryphosit's just gonna get better in 1.405:18
_xuniLcant find kdesvn05:18
Tm_Tapokryphos: afaik that ipod handling is fixed05:18
apokryphosyup, as I said :P05:19
ZeepAt the moment, I'm sitting at a SuSE-box, so the apt-output does differ 05:19
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ZeepYeah, but they are going to switch to libgpod for iPod-support, which does offer more features05:19
Zeep_xuniL: KDESVN: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2658905:20
_xuniLwill try installing from source05:21
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kkathmangood day, all :)05:23
Zeepkkathman: hi05:25
kkathmanhi there  Zeep :)05:26
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Peakerwhere can I set my PATH or other environment variables safely so they are accessible to all apps?05:31
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avinoamI get the following error trying to configure kmuddy:05:33
avinoamchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!05:33
kkathmanPeaker:  you'll need to go to your basrc file (or edit it)05:34
apokryphosavinoam: install libx11-dev05:34
Peakerkkathman: The problem is that .bashrc only affects bash and its child processes05:34
PeakerI want all my user's processes to be affected05:34
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kkathmanPeaker:  I dont think you can have your cake and eat it too05:35
apokryphosPeaker: PATH is defined in /etc/profile05:35
apokryphos(for system-wide)05:35
Peakerapokryphos: So /etc/profile runs in all login processes?05:35
apokryphosyes05:35
kkathmanapokryphos: but then if the user has his own Path, that will supercede it, will it not?05:36
kkathmanie in his /home05:36
avinoamapokryphos, i did and still get the same error05:36
apokryphoskkathman: any extra paths added in system-wide will still be respected 05:37
Peakerapokryphos: ~/.profile will also run in the login of each user, after /etc/profile?05:37
kkathmanapokryphos: my point being...that if each user has their own .bashrc, then the path there will overwrite the master in /etc/profile05:37
apokryphosPeaker: yes05:37
apokryphoskkathman: no, it'll just use the extra ones it has05:38
kkathmanso he'll have to remove any PATH statements (except for addons) in all user files05:38
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kkathmanapokryphos: ONLY if its of the form PATH = PATH:........05:38
kkathmanie the concatenation05:38
apokryphosavinoam: don't remember exactly what else it is. But, for example do apt-get build-dep kde-styles-lipstik  and it'll pull in the relevant things for it05:38
apokryphoskkathman: what are you talking about?05:39
avinoamapokryphos, there's nothing for kmuddy05:39
azertyuuuhey all , can anyone help me? I want to have Windows as default OS in Grub 05:39
apokryphosavinoam: I know... do what I said there though05:40
avinoamexactly that?05:40
apokryphosyes05:40
kkathmanapokryphos: I believe that if one's own .bashrc file in their /home/<name> directory, has a PATH =  statement, then it takes precedence over the master in /etc/profile.  Unless the one in the user's HOME is set to concatenate additional paths.05:41
kkathmanI had a problem with this in Hoary and worked with someone here to resolve it, and that was the problem.05:41
apokryphosI don't really know; could be the case, I guess. Might test in a bit05:42
avinoamapokryphos, still unable to find a source package05:42
apokryphosavinoam: hoary or breezy?05:42
kkathmanMaybe its changed in breezy :)05:42
avinoamapokryphos, breezy05:43
apokryphosargh, kde-style-lipstik05:43
apokryphosdamn Ss05:43
avinoamapokryphos, what is it gonna bring in?05:43
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apokryphosavinoam: the build depends for that package; which, requires the X includes05:44
apokryphosquite sure you only need libx11-dev, but that might have changed05:44
avinoamgotcha05:44
avinoamthanks05:44
kkathmanIs anyone familiar with a package called "beagle" which is a desktop search engine I think05:48
_xuniLno05:50
apokryphosyes, it's a gnomism though. Meant to be quite good05:51
apokryphosKDE's answer is Kat, pretty much; but it does more :D05:51
Kamping_Kaiseryeh, i should try i tout :|05:52
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Kamping_Kaiserroot eh....05:52
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kkathmankewl apokryphos thanx...I know that beagle was rather hard to install in Hoary, and I passed on it then05:52
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kkathmanGood day Blissex :)06:09
BlissexHello!06:13
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kkathmanHey there raphink :)06:21
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troestecbin ich schon drin06:35
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Kamping_Kaiserkubuntu-de06:35
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kkathmanMorning (or whatever) Kamping_Kaiser  :)06:37
Tm_T:p06:38
Kamping_Kaiserhi kkathman, yes, its 2 am :) so morning06:38
Tm_Theh06:38
kkathmanhey Tm_T o/06:38
Tm_T19:38 here06:38
Tm_Tkkathman: hullo06:38
kkathmanKamping_Kaiser: lol...morning here too!! but 11:30am SUnday06:38
Kamping_Kaiserlol. monday today :)06:38
Kamping_Kaisergot to take my sister to school in 5 hours06:39
kkathmanKamping_Kaiser: where are you located?06:39
kkathmanjust curious :)06:39
Kamping_Kaisercentral australia06:39
Kamping_Kaiser:) 06:39
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kkathmanahh ok knew it had to be way way over there somewhere :)06:39
Kamping_Kaiserid like to be on teh east coast, but im here :}06:39
Kamping_Kaiser'way over there' lol06:39
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kkathmanwell you are some 14 hours ahead :)06:40
corincolehey, can someone help me please?06:40
kkathmanTm_T: is around 8 from me 06:40
Kamping_Kaiser:) yeh, it owns06:40
kkathmancorincole: whats the issue?06:40
corincolecan someone go to #ubuntu and ask someone to unblock me...  i dont know why ive been blocked... :o06:40
corincole:'(06:40
corincoleI need to talk to Seveas, but i dont think hes online atm06:40
kkathmanyou can try to  PM him06:41
kkathmanI dont have any clout in #ubuntu :)06:41
corincolehes not online06:41
corincoleare there any OPS in #ubuntu atm?06:41
kkathmanI dunno I dont usually hang out there06:41
Kamping_Kaiseri love irc :) you meet ppl all over the place06:41
kkathmanapokryphos is there but I dont know if he is an op06:42
corincolekkathman - can you go and ask? :)06:42
Kamping_Kaisercorincole: are you sure you dont know why you were banned?06:42
corincoleyup06:43
libbenlook at ur status window then to check the mess =)06:43
Kamping_Kaisero_0 its just started raining06:43
kkathmancorincole: not really, because I dont know you, and I dont know the circumstances of your situation...its best if you work that out with them.06:43
corincolei was on there this morning, left without being kicked...  because Seveas was away (at IKEA apparently lol), and now i am blocked....06:43
corincolecan you ask an OP to pm me?06:43
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kkathmanhey hussam :)06:44
Kamping_Kaiserhi mate06:44
kkathmanKamping_Kaiser: you get pretty good rains there in Central Australia?06:45
hussamkkathman, Kamping_Kaiser: hi guys06:45
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Kamping_Kaiserkkathman: depends. down by the coast yes, in the center not so much06:45
kkathmanhussam how are you today?06:45
Kamping_Kaiserim going to bed :) its my time 06:46
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hussamkkathman: fine, you?06:46
kkathmanhussam: Im doin pretty good thanks :)06:46
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Kamping_Kaisersee you later today :)06:46
Kamping_Kaiserin about 18 hours ;)06:46
kkathmantake care Kamping_Kaiser  :)06:46
Kamping_Kaiser:D06:46
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kkathmanlibben: what was going on with corincole's status window that he was banned...Im just curious06:47
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jolly_joeIm trying to install breezy from CD, I want to set up a /home partition as FAT32, but everytime i try this I can not create a user. Can someone help me please?06:49
kkathmanjolly_joe: the install should walk you through that fairly painlessly06:49
kkathmanohhh wait as a FAT32??? 06:50
kkathmanewwwwwwwwwwwwww why?06:50
jolly_joeso that I can have it in windows if need be06:50
Tm_T:(06:50
Tm_Tnot a good idea06:50
Tm_Tfat32 doesn't handle user rights very well06:50
kkathmanjolly_joe: best to have windows first, use partition magic to create your partitions, then install Breezy in that partition06:51
jolly_joecan I put it in quiet mode?06:51
jolly_joei got the partitions sorted out06:51
jolly_joejust cant seem to create user, i think its permissions business06:51
kkathmanI think you have to have an ext3 partition to install any Linux, dont you Tm_T ??06:51
Tm_Tkkathman: ext2 is fine too06:51
kkathmancuz thats what the installer looks for06:51
kkathmanahh true Tm_T  you're right06:52
Tm_T:p06:52
kkathmanI've always used ext3 tho06:52
Tm_Tand you can use reiserfs too in many places06:52
Tm_Tthough booting partition is recommended to be ext06:52
kkathmanbut install, rearrange your windows first, then partition and make an ext3, then install breezy06:52
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kkathmanTm_T: unless you dual boot I guess06:53
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jolly_joei got the partitions ok06:53
kkathmanJakubS: even on dual boot machines with windows?06:53
JakubSkkathman: i have no dual boot machines06:54
kkathmanJakubS: yah me either06:54
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BroxtorI have a tv attached to a pc running Kubuntu 5.10. During the boot process there's no problem, but as soon as KDE starts, my screen goes black.06:59
BroxtorDoes anyone know how I can solve this?06:59
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BroxtorBtw: I'm using a Nvidia Geforce 2 MX400 graphics card and I have the Nvidia drivers installed07:02
Tm_TBroxtor: legacy drivers you mean?07:02
Tm_Tyeah, your display driver needs legacy drivers07:03
_lucassmarlink moden works!!07:03
_lucassmartlink moden works!!07:03
Tm_Tok07:03
BroxtorTm_T: I'm not sure what you mean by legacy drivers. I've got the one provided with Nvidia07:04
rikva|laptopHi, I just installed Kubuntu Hoary, I reinstalled the / and swap partition and kept the /home partition. I have one major problem; sudo doesn't work. kdesu says my password is wrong (it isnt) and sudo in a konsole accepts the password and then ignores the parameter, e.g. 'sudo ls' returns nothing. What can I do?07:04
Tm_TBroxtor: apt-cache search legacy | grep nvidia07:04
Tm_TBroxtor: those are the dirvers you need07:04
Tm_Tnot the one you're using07:04
BroxtorTm_T: Thanks, I'll give that a try.07:05
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Tm_Tnp07:05
Blissexrikva|laptop: thats really odd. Try 'sudo -s' to see if you get a 'root' shell, and then try 'su -' to the same effect.07:05
Blissexrikva|laptop: also, check '/etc/sudoers'07:05
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rikva|laptopBlissex: sudo -s returns nothing07:06
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rikva|laptopBlissex: su - ... what do you mean? just su works, i become root07:07
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rikva|laptopin /etc/sudoers is "root   ALL=(ALL) ALL07:08
rikva|laptop"07:08
rikva|laptopand Defaults07:08
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rikva|laptop'sudo -s ls' returns "/bin/ls: /bin/ls: cannot execute binary file"07:09
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Blissexrikva|laptop: consider adding a line to '/etc/sudoers' the same as the one that's there with your user name in it instead of 'root', and read 'man su' and 'man sudo' for the meaning of the options.07:12
doctormohow can I connect my Powerbook to my Kubuntu System?07:12
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rikva|laptopBlissex: you saved my day. Thank you07:13
doctormoI should add by WiFi07:13
rikva|laptopthis problem is propably caused because of the expert-installd i did :|07:13
Roreehi everyone, i am having a problem installing Kubuntu. I burnt the ISO to a cd, and booted from the CD fine. After going through some options it starts the installation process. When i get to the part about getting the installation files, it throws and error saying it couldn't get the files from the CD and that there might be a problem with my drive or with the integrity of the CD07:14
doctormoI can't seem to get them to match07:14
Blissexrikva|laptop: yes, likely, the default install should add your userid to '/etc/sudoers' for you.07:14
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BlissexRoree: almost surely a bad burn or a bad download. Use the checksums to verify both the downloaded ISO image and the CD itself.07:15
Roreeok, how can i check the checksum? i remember doing it a while ago, but it was a while so can't remember :$07:15
BlissexRoree: with a program like 'md5sum'. The Ubuntu Wiki has detailed instructions.07:16
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kkathmanBlissex: are you familiar with Kat ?07:26
Blissexkkathman: which Kat?07:27
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kkathmanBlissex: the newest one, the desktop search utility07:29
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kkathmanOne of the helper programs it says im missing is lyx2html, and yet I cant find that in the repositories through apt-cache07:29
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Blissexkkathman: looking, not totally surprising though...07:31
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kkathmanIm just wondering if thereare alot of lyx files on my system...Im not familiar with that07:32
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kkathmanI'm inclined to just ignore that07:32
Roreewhere can i find the md5sum for the kubunto iso image? i'm getting confused :S07:32
Blissexkkathman: ignore it if you can. LyX is a GUI frontend to TeX07:32
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kkathmanahh ok thanks Blissex :)07:32
Blissexkkathman: it was the project that the founder of KDE did before starting KDE.07:33
kkathmanRoree: check the Ubuntu wiki :)07:33
BlissexRoree: or any FTP download site.07:33
BlissexRoree: I prefer to download ISOs with things like BitTorrent, RSYNC or P2P like eDonkey because they do a running checksum of what they download.07:34
Roreei'm looking at the ubuntu wiki, but i can't find the kubuntu checksum07:34
Roreei might have to whack it on bit torrent tonight then. i just downloaded it through firefox yesterday07:34
BlissexRoree: use RSYNC, it will fix any problems it has without redownloading it. BT will do that too if you do it cleverly.07:35
BlissexRoree: If you beg I can find you an RSYNC URL to use.07:37
Roreeplease please please please please :)07:37
BlissexRoree: OK :-).07:37
Roreethank you :) i really appreciate it :)07:37
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BlissexRoree: CD? DVD? Hoary? Breezy? i386? amd64? PPC?07:38
apokryphoscornicle guy -- heh, he's funny. "Doesn't know why"; ultimate spammer :D07:38
RoreeCD, Breezy i386 (5.10)07:39
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BlissexRoree: OK!07:39
Roreebut i did burn the cd with a dvd burner (i guess that doesn't make much difference?)07:39
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rikva|laptopHow do I install w32codecs or something similair in Breezy?  It isn't in the multiverse...07:40
apokryphos!w32codecs07:40
ubotuw32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)07:40
kkathmanhmmm kat doesnt seem to go out and index files...unless Im just not seeing it at all :)07:41
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BlissexRoree: rsync -v -p -P -v SE.Releases.Ubuntu.com::ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso 07:42
rikva|laptopthanks apokryphos 07:42
BlissexRoree: Try it now...07:42
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Roreei get a weird smiley in that, after SE.Releases.Ubuntu.com: then it has the smiley. Is the next bit just "Ubuntu-releases/"?07:44
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Sonny_Wertzikhi.07:45
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Roreehmm, how do i actually do the RSYNC? :$07:46
BlissexRoree: configure your IRC client not to smilify... it is ''colon colon ubuntu-release''07:46
BlissexRoree: configure your IRC client not to smilify... it is ''colon colon ubuntu-releases''07:46
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Sonny_Wertzikdoes anyony know if there is a way to get a tree view on left side and folders on the right side in konqueror?07:46
BlissexRoree: that's the full command you need to do.07:47
Roreeyeh, i worked that out after copying and pasting :S07:47
kkathmanSonny_Wertzik:  yes07:47
Sonny_Wertzikkkathman, hi07:47
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kkathmanSonny_Wertzik: launch Konq, press F907:47
NetSKaVeNhell-o!07:47
Sonny_Wertzikkkathman, kool thanx07:47
BlissexRoree: do that command in the directory in which you have the existing ISO.07:47
Roreei;m trying, but i can't write all the text. it stops me from writing the end of the file name07:48
Sonny_Wertzikkkathman, awsome! thank you07:48
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Sonny_Wertzikkkathman, is there a way to save that configureation?07:48
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NetSKaVeNanyone has the flashplayer-mozilla working with konqueror?07:49
BlissexRoree: well, type it in, use completion.07:50
BlissexSonny_Wertzik: look at the profiles... You probably want the file management profile, not the web one.07:51
BlissexSonny_Wertzik: there are three obvious meny entries in the 'Settings' menu related to profiles. Also, this is a pure KDE questions, there is another channel for that, #KDE.07:52
Sonny_WertzikBlissex, is that in windoww specific settings?07:52
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hydrogenhrm07:52
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hydrogenIf I want to compile my own kernel, but keep the friendly bootsplash and all that, is there anything special I need to do?07:53
hyperactivecrondggrowl....... in Kmail, if i have received a pgp encrypted message it won't let me de-crypt it07:53
RoreeBlissex: i'm getting confused here. i am in the command window, trying to use rsync, but it says its an invalid command07:53
hyperactivecrondautomagically but i can save and gpg it manually07:54
BlissexRoree: 'apt-get install rsync' might help...07:54
Roreeooops, i forgot to say i'm in Windows :$ i don't think that works right?07:54
Blissexhydrogen: I think you need the bootsplash patch... The Kubuntu kernel has quite a few custom patches/extensions in it.07:54
BlissexRoree: you can get RSYNC for MS Windows. Have a look at the download section of http://RSYNC.Samba.org/07:55
hydrogenhrm07:55
hydrogenbootsplash patch is no problem07:56
hydrogenwasn't sure if that was all or what07:56
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luminosohey guys.. on my KDE i'am having "london" instead of date... how do i correct this?07:57
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qatsiohh im having so much trubles with my ATI card :S i need some help, could anyone plz ?...thanx07:57
apokryphosluminoso: hover over it, then scroll up07:57
luminosoqatsi, thanks!!!!!!!!07:57
luminosofinally!07:57
BlissexRoree: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ for a prepackages version of RSYNC for MS Windows.07:57
qatsiluminoso: ? you mean thanx != thanks ?07:58
Roreethanks, i was just getting confused trying to work out what to do with the package i had :d07:58
Blissexhydrogen: you can always get the ubuntu-patch package for your kernel07:58
hydrogenBlissex: cool07:58
luminosoqatsi, ??07:58
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qatsiluminoso: you said "qatsi, thannks!!!!!!!!!!!".....07:59
qatsiplease help my lost ATI soul :'( i cant play anything :S07:59
luminosoyap!!! i was having problems with this.. and so simple!!07:59
qatsiuhmmm...:'(08:00
luminosowhat? :O08:00
qatsii should have bought an nvidia :(08:01
luminosoyap! ndvidia rocks!08:01
qatsiand ati sucks :p08:01
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luminosoohh sorry.. i now understand what happend08:01
_poisonhi ^^08:01
luminosoapokryphos, thanks!!!08:01
qatsii dont have support for 3d gaming :(08:02
luminosoohhh... ati=nvidia... i can't run medal of honor 208:02
_poisoncan I install Kubuntu from a running System ? 08:02
Roreei'm going to have to give up on this for now. i'm getting too confused with rsync (ie. those packages are well confusing) and have to have dinner... :( thank you for the help Blissex, i'll keep hold of that link you gave me and try again later08:02
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apokryphos_poison: eh?08:02
_poisonapokryphos: I don't have a cdrom .... and it would be nice if I could install it from a chroot or something ...08:03
Blissexhydrogen: the package is actually called 'linux-patch-2.6.xxxx' BTW08:03
apokryphos!tell _poison about install08:03
Blissexhydrogen: the package is actually called 'linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.xxxx' BTW08:03
_poisonapokryphos: thanks ...08:03
Blissexhydrogen: the latest seems to be 'linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.12'08:04
hydrogenyea08:04
qatsiapokryphos: do you know of any ati driver who works with 3d gaming ? i have fglrx and when i run glxgears i should get 700 or 1000 fps, i get about 32 :S08:04
Blissexqatsi: that means it is not properly installed. Check out #ATI08:05
apokryphosqatsi: nope, sorry -- wouldn't touch ATI :-O08:05
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qatsiBlissex: thanx for the channel :)08:05
hydrogenEXS is nice08:05
hydrogenin xorg08:05
hydrogenbut I think thats only 2d08:05
qatsiapokryphos: ha, i should have known about ati :p08:05
Blissexqatsi: also, if you have a 9200 or earlier you can use the DRI/DRM drivers, and if you have a 9600 you can use the experimental R300 driver.08:05
Blissex!ati08:05
ubotumethinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1008:05
qatsiBlissex: i have 9200 SE08:06
Blissexqatsi: then you can sure use the DRI/DRM open source drivers. The links above are for 'fglrx', and you need not have installed it. The 9200 SE is supported by default.08:06
Blissex!dri08:06
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Blissex08:06
Blissex!drm08:06
ubotuNot a clue, Blissex08:06
Blissexqatsi: just find any DRI/DRM/ATI HOWTO or tutorial (there are several) on how to enable DRI/DRM with the standard Xorg server and drivers.08:07
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qatsithank you a lot Blissex :)08:08
hyperactivecrond!ati08:09
ubotusomebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1008:09
hyperactivecrondqatsi: ^^08:10
hyperactivecrond!xorg08:10
ubotuwell, xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:10
hyperactivecrondthen do ^^08:10
qatsihyperactivecrond: what :D ?08:10
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hyperactivecrondqatsi: you're having the ati problem?08:11
qatsihyperactivecrond: yes :( 08:11
Blissexqatsi: note that in your case the DRI/DRM drivers are a lot more convenient, as every time you upgrade kernel or X they get upgraded automagically and the config does not change. With the 'fglrx' driver you can have complications.08:11
hyperactivecrond!tell qatsi about ati08:11
antony_when i insert a cd or flash card, konqueror pops up a message like An error occurred while loading media:/sda1:... sda1 doesn not exist. is this fixed by the hal update in the /topic, or is something else not working?08:12
hyperactivecrond!tell qatsi about xorg08:12
hyperactivecrondqatsi: do the ati thing first08:12
qatsiha, tell qatsi about buying good video cards :p08:12
hyperactivecrondthen do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:12
qatsihyperactivecrond: ahhh :s too much info, i have to take note :p08:12
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kkathmananyone here run kat actively, I've set up the catalog but nothing seems to be happening08:13
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Tm_Tkkathman: it's quite alpha and beta08:16
Tm_Tnever got it working properly08:17
antony_when i insert a cd or flash card, konqueror pops up a message like An error occurred while loading media:/sda1:... sda1 doesn not exist. is this fixed by the hal update in the /topic, or is something else not working?08:18
kkathmanTm_T: ahh ok08:18
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kkathmanTm_T: I set up the catalog...do I need to do something to get it start indexing?08:19
qatsihyperactivecrond: ahhh no, i have xconfig :'( that was my main problem with gentoo :'(08:19
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Tm_Tkkathman: I have no idea08:19
hyperactivecrondqatsi: you're using kubuntu, rite?08:19
qatsihyperactivecrond: yes08:19
kkathmanhmmm08:19
fishi all :)08:20
hyperactivecrondqatsi: dpkg-reconfigure comes wit kubuntu08:20
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qatsihyperactivecrond: so i just do that ?08:20
hyperactivecrondqatsi: did you do the ati thing yet?08:20
qatsihyperactivecrond: in the ati thing they ask me to run fglrxconfig :p which is the xconfig thing :p08:21
hyperactivecrond!tell me about ati08:21
djperegrinewhats new in KDE 3.5 ?08:21
apokryphosdjperegrine: go to developer.kde.org and see teh changelog08:21
hyperactivecrondso just do the tutorial qatsi08:22
qatsihyperactivecrond: ok, im at it :D08:22
hyperactivecrond:)08:22
kkathmanapokryphos: you suggested kat today, and I seem to have a bit of an issue getting it to begin indexing..are you familiar with this?08:24
djperegrineapokryphos:  I don't see it08:25
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zalianhow can i cofigure request tracker08:28
zalianhow can i cofigure request tracker08:28
apokryphosdjperegrine: release schedules -> feature plan08:29
apokryphoskkathman: haven't used it in some time, sorry08:29
qatsihyperactivecrond: my frame rate is variable....it has reached 1200 fps..so i suppose its ok08:30
hyperactivecrondmk qatsi08:30
kkathmanwell I will chalk kat up to another buggy KDE app then like Kopete08:31
qatsihyperactivecrond: sorry, that was in 5 seconds :p max in 1 sec is about 25008:31
hyperactivecrondheh 08:31
hyperactivecrondkkathman: which app08:31
libbenhow do i restart eth1 ?08:32
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vonHalenbachifconfig eth1 stop08:33
vonHalenbachifconfig eth1 start08:33
qatsiso now my computer should work with Warcraft III ?08:33
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hbrednekI'm trying to get ubuntu loaded on a machine where I will be using RAID-1.  I was hoping to use Ubuntu's install to do this, but I cannot get past the "Partition Disks" screen.  It needs to be told that the raid device is /, which I would gladly do if I could.  Is there a way to tell it to use the raid device as /?08:34
kkathmanhyperactivecrond: kat08:34
hyperactivecrondkat or kate?08:34
kkathmankate works fine08:35
hyperactivecrondah 08:35
hyperactivecrond!kat08:35
ubotuhyperactivecrond: Not a clue08:35
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qatsihyperactivecrond: thank you very much, ill see what i can do to run warcraft :D bye bye !08:37
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hyperactivecrond:? ok then08:37
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kkathmanhyperactivecrond: no problem08:38
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hyperactivecrondoooooook08:38
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vonHalenbachHas anyone tried a vnc connection over the Internet?08:38
apokryphoskkathman: what's wrong with kopete?08:39
Tm_TKopete <308:39
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kkathmanapokryphos: is, and always has been very buggy08:39
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Tm_Tkkathman: not here08:40
kkathmanI stick with Gaim...its fine08:40
apokryphosnever found Kopete buggy, except when using svn here rarely08:40
regeyavonHalenbach: I usually use ssh.  y'know, run vnc server on one machine, run sshd on it as well, start up a ssh session like ssh -C -L 127.0.0.1:5900:127.0.0.1 somebody@someother.machine then connect to 127.0.0.1 in vncclient08:40
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kkathmangood Tm_T glad you have no probs :)08:40
Tm_T:p08:40
apokryphoskkathman: what kind of problems?08:40
regeyarunning vnc over teh intarweb gives me the willies08:40
djperegrineWhats the best way to install mythfrontend?08:41
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kkathmanapokryphos: loading themes, duplicating buddy lists, 08:41
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vonHalenbachIm just interested to try a testconnection without ssh.08:41
hyperactivecronddjperegrine: synaptic or apt-get08:41
regeyaI really love how System Settings has a handbook menu item, but there's no help files.08:42
djperegrinehyperactivecrond: its not in the ubuntu repostory08:42
hyperactivecronddjperegrine: google it08:42
hyperactivecrondand get the dpkg format if availab08:42
kkathmanLike I said, its ok, gaim works great, and they arent in trouble :)08:42
regeyaI freakin' love it when kde apps offer help, then fail to deliver.  broken behavior imho08:42
hyperactivecrondle08:42
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dmlinux_What are the advantages of KDE over gnome?08:43
regeyadmlinux_: that's an awfully big question :-)08:43
dmlinux_regeya thats why i ask08:43
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djperegrinedmlinux_: its more about taste08:44
dmlinux_regeya no one every gives me opinions, they always say something like what you just said08:44
regeyadmlinux_: the simple way to put it is this:  if you want a clean and easy-to-use desktop, choose gnome.  if you want something that's usable but runs the risk of hitting you with feature overload, use kde.08:44
regeyadmlinux_: the simple way to put it is this:  if you want a clean and easy-to-use desktop, choose gnome.  if you want something that's usable but runs the risk of hitting you with feature overload, use kde.08:44
dmlinux_djperegrine, is tehere a site with Screenshots of only KDE?08:44
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kkathmanregeya: thats funny :)08:44
regeyadmlinux_: kde.org08:44
dmlinux_i run KDE stuff from gnome, it doesnt bother me that it all floats on my memory , i was just curious if it had anything that gnome didnt. i like gnome, very sleek , and neat08:46
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kkathmandmlinux_: bottom line its just a matter of preference, there are many desktops (GUI) to choose from..find the one you like :)08:47
dmlinux_kk thanks all08:47
regeyadmlinux_: I personally chose to go back to KDE because I didn't care whether or not the apps I used met the requirements of some arbitrary HIG.  It bugs me that long after things were thrown out of GNOME apps because they didn't conform to the GNOME HIG, they still aren't back and don't seem to be coming back.  It bugs me that newer apps like, erm, don't remember the name but some media app that looks like it'll take the Rhyth08:47
regeya bugs me that GNOME is doing the things that people used to accuse KDE of doing, yet it's all fine and dandy this time around.  Mostly, though, I just like KDE better.  I don't feel the need to run to an xterm as often, which I see as a good thing.08:47
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regeyawell, *that* was a wasted effort...08:48
endo602how can i tell whether my hp multifunction printer is working on this system?08:50
kkathmanendo602: print to it?08:52
endo602i dont have ink08:52
endo602i just want to know if its configured08:52
kkathmanendo602: did you install the drivers?08:53
endo602the packages were installed08:54
kkathmanendo602: When you set the printer up, it gives you the option to print a test page08:54
kkathmanendo602: well you still have to install the driver08:54
kkathmanendo602: go to System Settings - Hardware - Printers08:55
endo602i see it08:55
endo602its on my other system08:55
endo602so i guess i gotta wait08:55
endo602until my wife is done with her game to setup the printer08:56
endo602thanks bro08:56
kkathmannp08:56
endo602it wasnt set up08:56
endo602ill do it as soon as possible08:56
endo602by the wya08:56
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endo602i formatted that USB drive to fat3208:56
kkathmanyah, loading install files isnt enough...still have to set it up...usually with cups08:56
endo602and not deal08:56
endo602i use samba to network with my desktop08:57
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endo602has anyone tried changing the icon for kmenu?09:00
endo602its not working for me09:00
kkathmanendo602: I use samba also, my printer is actually connected to my winbox, and I use cups to print through it09:01
endo602cups?09:01
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kkathmanendo602:  yes cups...its installed standard on your system09:04
endo602where can i find it09:04
kkathmanendo602: you dont need to "find it" its there 09:04
endo602oh09:04
endo602so i just set it up?09:04
endo602and all is fine?09:05
endo602kkathman: can i pm you>09:06
endo602?09:06
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kkathmanendo602:  sure09:10
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kkathmanendo602: having the files installed on the system, is kinda like having a cd. The files are now there, but you still have to go through the process of adding the printer, and telling the system where it is, and how to access it09:12
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vonHalenbachlibben : Has it worked?09:14
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libbenis alt+f2 having the same $PATH as the terminal has?09:18
hyperactivecrondlibben: yes?09:19
libbenso why isnt it allways give me a error about something on the torrent when i try to download them when started it thru alt f2. but when i start from terminal its all ok09:20
libbenisnt == is it =)09:20
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Blissexlibben: the same path a terminal had when you logged in.09:26
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kkathmansorry endo602 I stepped away a moment...just got your PM09:28
endo602no worries09:28
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Tallia1-KubuntuBhi guys09:29
Tallia1-KubuntuBlook at this09:29
wotnargwow... artsd one even start for me atm :p09:29
vonHalenbachhi Tallia09:29
Tallia1-KubuntuBUsing compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override.09:29
Tallia1-KubuntuBYour kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use09:29
Tallia1-KubuntuB"/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2". This configuration is not supported and VMware09:29
Tallia1-KubuntuBWorkstation cannot work in such configuration. Please either recompile your09:29
Tallia1-KubuntuBkernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl09:29
Tallia1-KubuntuBwith CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".09:29
endo602anyone get their USB pendrive to work?'09:29
Tallia1-KubuntuBi never recompile the kernel09:29
Tallia1-KubuntuBis it a tricky and long operation?09:29
kkathmanTallia1-KubuntuB: please read the topic, and dont flood...put that in a pastebin09:29
wotnargendo602: Mine works just fine.09:30
endo602what you got?09:30
endo602what company09:30
wotnargerrmmm... 'ep memory', and lexar, but it doesnt matter09:30
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endo602because my lexar is not working09:30
wotnargThey should all work if they are standard flashdrives09:30
wotnargwhats not working about it?09:30
Tallia1-KubuntuBisn't possible to download a precompiled version of the kernel?09:31
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endo602when i plug in konq pops up with error09:31
Tallia1-KubuntuBlike the one that ubuntu gave me when i installed the system several months ago?09:31
wotnargTallia1-KubuntuB: yea...09:31
wotnargTallia1-KubuntuB: apt-get install linux-image-blah09:31
endo602The file or folder media:/sba1 does not exist09:31
Tallia1-KubuntuBi haven't got time for recompile..09:31
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Tallia1-KubuntuBand which must be the blah....09:31
wotnargendo602: go to konsole, and try 'sudo mount /dev/sda1'09:31
Tallia1-KubuntuBi need a kernel compiled with the last gcc09:32
wotnarglike, 4.0?09:32
Tallia1-KubuntuByes09:32
Tallia1-KubuntuB4.0.209:32
wotnargall kubuntu kernels will be then09:32
wotnargopen adept09:32
wotnargand install one09:32
Tallia1-KubuntuBi'm opening synaptics now09:33
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Tallia1-KubuntuBwhy when i upgraded the system the kernel haven't been?09:33
wotnargendo602: any luck?09:33
Tallia1-KubuntuB( updated to breezy )09:33
endo602Password:09:33
endo602mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab09:33
wotnargErm, it should have. I'm not sure why it didnt.09:33
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wotnargendo602: paste your fstab in a pastebin?09:33
endo602how09:33
wotnargpaste.ubuntu.nl09:33
wotnargI believe is one of them09:34
wotnargpaste it, then post the address.09:34
kkathmanTallia1-KubuntuB: tell me about your upgrade... what were you on before and how did you upgrade?09:34
Tallia1-KubuntuBwotnarg: i alredy have them installed09:34
endo602ok09:34
endo602how do i get my fstab09:34
wotnargcat /etc/fstab09:34
wotnargTallia1-KubuntuB: So whats the problem?09:34
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Tallia1-KubuntuBi were on hoary and i substitute repositories with breezy09:34
kkathmanTallia1-KubuntuB: then what09:34
Tallia1-KubuntuBthat i can't install vmware because it requires a gcc 4 compiled kernel09:34
kkathmandid you have vmware under hoary?09:35
_jorge_alguem fala portugues ou espang=hol?09:35
Tallia1-KubuntuByes, but i deleted it now.. i downloaded the new version09:35
Tallia1-KubuntuBand i am trying to install it on the new system09:35
kkathmanKubuntu or ubuntu?09:35
Blissex_jorge_: #Ubuntu-es or similar for PT/BR09:35
Tallia1-KubuntuBkubuntu09:35
wotnarg_jorge_: #kubuntu-es 09:35
endo602no such cat wotnarg09:36
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Tallia1-KubuntuBkkathman: what do you suggest me?09:36
wotnargendo602: cat /etc/fstab returns an error?09:36
kkathmanTallia1-KubuntuB: no clue, but sounds like vmware has some major restrictions09:36
vonHalenbachsudo cat /etc/fstab09:37
endo602got it09:37
Tallia1-KubuntuBhow can i check which version of the kernel have been loaded on boot?09:37
wotnargvonHalenbach: For future reference, you dont need sudo to cat that file ;)09:37
Tallia1-KubuntuBand is runnign now?09:37
wotnarguname -r09:37
vonHalenbachoh. Thanks09:37
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Tallia1-KubuntuB?09:39
endo602wotnarg09:39
wotnargTallia1-KubuntuB: uname -r in a console will give you ther version your running.09:39
endo602i just put it in pm09:39
wotnargok09:39
Tallia1-KubuntuB2.6.12-9-38609:39
Tallia1-KubuntuBit is the correct one09:39
Tallia1-KubuntuBbut why it is not compiled with the new gcc?09:39
endo602tell me what you think09:39
wotnargendo602: yea, its not in there. do you know what device your usb drive is in?09:40
kkathmanTallia1-KubuntuB: I think the breezy kernel is like 2.6.12 something09:40
vonHalenbachendo : Is it a brand new usbpen ?09:40
Tallia1-KubuntuB2.6.12-9-38609:40
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kkathmanTallia1-KubuntuB: its 2.6.12-909:40
Tallia1-KubuntuBkkathman: yes,... but why it is not compiled with gcc 4? 09:40
Tallia1-KubuntuBkkathman: i have that!09:41
vonHalenbachHave you used it with another computer ?09:41
wotnargendo602: try: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 -t vfat09:41
wotnargendo602: first do sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1 though09:41
vonHalenbachIs a filesystem on it?09:41
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wotnargvonHalenbach: They come formatted, so that shouldn't be a problem.09:42
kkathmanTallia1-KubuntuB: it is compiled with 4...the current gcc is 4.0.1-309:42
vonHalenbachI know.09:42
Tallia1-KubuntuBkkathman: what can i do?09:42
endo602done wotnarg09:42
endo602what now?09:42
wotnargendo602: It work?09:42
kkathmanTallia1-KubuntuB: check with vmware maybe?09:42
wotnargendo602: aka did it return nothing but a prompt?09:43
endo602nope09:43
Tallia1-KubuntuBkkathman: ?09:43
kkathmanyes?09:43
wotnargendo602: What did it return?09:43
endo602nothing09:43
endo602then i did it again and got09:43
endo602levi@Laptop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 -t vfat09:43
endo602levi@Laptop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 -t vfat09:43
endo602mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt/sda1 busy09:43
endo602mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mnt/sda109:43
endo602sorry09:43
wotnargyea09:43
endo602about the paste09:43
Tallia1-KubuntuBkkathman: i don't understand09:44
wotnargso it worked09:44
endo602nice09:44
wotnargendo602: When you do mount, and nothing is shown, it means it worked.09:44
endo602now what do i do09:44
endo602cool09:44
wotnargIt is now mounted in /mnt/sda109:44
wotnargbut, for later09:44
wotnargdo sudo nano /etc/fstab, or sudo kwrite /etc/fstab09:44
endo602how do i access it09:44
wotnargor whatever edit you like09:44
kkathmanTallia1-KubuntuB: do you know how to use google?  Here is exactly what you need to know:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75895.html09:44
endo602ok09:45
endo602then09:45
wotnargand then add the line: /dev/sda1       /mnt/sda1       vfat    rw,user         0       009:45
Tallia1-KubuntuBhow can i set a temporary environment variable CC that points to gcc3.4?09:45
kkathmanTallia1-KubuntuB: see my previous post09:45
Tallia1-KubuntuBi saw09:46
kkathmanTallia1-KubuntuB: follow that link..it tells you what t do09:46
endo602done09:46
endo602next?09:47
wotnargendo602: Ok, do umount /mnt/sda1, then do sudo mount /mnt/sda109:47
wotnargerr09:47
wotnargno sudo on second one09:47
Tallia1-KubuntuBkkathman: tnx09:47
Tallia1-KubuntuBkkathman: bye09:47
wotnargmount /mnt/sda1, not sudo09:47
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endo602ummm09:48
endo602no command unmount09:48
wotnargbleh, I totally messed that one up09:48
endo602sorry09:48
wotnargdo: sudo umount /mnt/sda1; mount /mnt/sda109:48
wotnargthere we go :p09:48
endo602ive got mad newbality09:48
endo602check pm09:49
wotnargendo602: Its umount, not unmount. Thats not a spelling error ;p09:49
endo602sorry09:49
kkathmanendo602: everyone is a newbie at some point09:50
wotnargyup09:50
kkathmanendo602: but the way you learn is to research, use google, and try..see what works09:51
endo602ok09:52
endo602i did that09:52
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sector10hi09:52
endo602with my resolution09:52
wotnargit return nothing?09:52
endo602yeah09:52
endo602nothing09:52
wotnargok09:52
endo602nice09:52
wotnarggo to konq09:52
wotnargand do09:52
wotnargfile:///mnt/sda09:52
wotnargsda109:52
wotnargand there your flashdrive should be.09:52
endo602BRAVO09:52
sector10anybody have any issues runnin kubuntu alongside ubuntu, im about to install kubuntu?09:52
endo602now can i hook thqat up to my mount/unmount applet?09:53
wotnarghopefully your applet should work now.09:53
vonHalenbachsector10 : What kind of soundcard do you have?09:54
sector10intell on vaio09:54
sector10it will work09:54
kkathmanYAY congrats endo602  :)09:54
sector10whats kde like?09:55
endo602thanks man09:55
endo602wotnarg09:55
endo602it aint09:55
vonHalenbachok . i had problems with a isa pnp soundcard09:55
wotnargapplet still doesnt work?09:55
sector10ive used kde in suse, is it as nice?09:55
wotnargkde is fairly standard over the distros, sector10.09:55
sector10vonHalenbach: isa well 09:55
vonHalenbachI used suse 80 bevore.09:55
endo602yes09:56
wotnargendo602: Is that a yes it doesnt work, or a yes it does work.09:56
endo602doesnt09:56
vonHalenbachsector10: Wir knnen auch deutsch reden.09:56
Tallia1-KubuntuBkkathman: i need the linux headers for the kernel.. in which package are them ?09:56
endo602its the storage media applet right?09:56
wotnargendo602: Does it give an error?09:56
sector10vonHalenbach: ein bischen09:56
sector10vonHalenbach: es gebt auch kubuntu auf deutsche09:57
sector10wotnarg: are the ubuntu changes to kde for the better?09:57
vonHalenbachswitch back to english09:57
endo602gives same error as before when i unplug and plug back in09:58
endo602but then when i mount again09:58
endo602it works09:58
endo602the applet doesnt work09:58
wotnargsector10: I'd say so.09:58
vonHalenbachwotnarg: automounter ?09:58
wotnargvonHalenbach: hrm09:58
wotnargendo602: Whats the error when plugging it in?09:59
sector10wotnarg: have you had any issues switching back and forth from gnome?09:59
vonHalenbachhrm ?09:59
wotnargsector10: In hoary, no, breezy, havnt tried it yet.09:59
wotnargvonHalenbach: What did you mean by automounter?09:59
endo602that same media:/sda1 does not exist09:59
wotnarghrm10:00
wotnargdo10:00
wotnargsudo mkdir /media/sda110:00
wotnargand see if it works10:00
vonHalenbachis the automounter for automatic mounting of memorysticks?10:00
sector10wotnarg: when i tried kubuntu last the fonts looked poor or worse than ubuntu anyway10:00
sector10wotnarg: maybe ill just install it10:00
sector10thanks10:00
wotnargvonHalenbach: I'm not sure. In kde3.5beta, it has an automounter built in, so I'm not familiar with the applet.10:00
endo602that worked10:00
wotnargendo602: Now does the applet work?10:01
wotnargsector10: Did you install the qt-gtk theme converter package?10:01
vonHalenbachI use Kubuntu 5.10 RC . And on my computer it mouts automaticly.10:01
endo602well if the applet is the one i am thinking about it isnt10:01
endo602i got storage media applet on10:01
endo602that is the right applet\10:03
endo602but its not mounting on there10:03
wotnarghrm10:03
sector10no10:04
wotnargSo when you plug it in, does a window pop up and ask you what to do with the usb drive?10:04
sector10wotnarg: whats that10:04
wotnargsector10: lemme find name10:04
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endo602no10:04
endo602it doesnt10:04
wotnargsector10: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt <this makes your gtk apps look like qt ones, and it converts fonts.10:05
sector10cool10:05
sector10great10:05
wotnargendo602: I dunno then. If all else fails you can just mount/umount it manually.10:05
sector10ill install it first10:05
endo602alright10:05
endo602that sux10:05
endo602but i guess it will work10:05
endo602thanks man10:05
wotnargsector10: It most likely only works when running qt though, so you wont see any change in gnome.10:06
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wotnargendo602: Sorry I can't help more, but I'm not even running the same kde version, so this is all from memory ;/10:06
sector10of course.10:06
blackflaghello all :-)10:06
sector10just doing it so i dont forget10:06
wotnargblackflag: sup?10:06
wotnargsector10: yea ;)10:06
sector10thanks take care10:06
blackflagsup? what do you mean?10:06
sector10by the way bzflag is still broke10:07
sector10in debian10:07
sector10also the real player installer is a joke10:07
sector10best to get from real.com10:07
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blackflagI have problem with gpg10:08
blackflagI tried to send signed mails inline so m4 users can easily read this message10:08
blackflagits always attached10:09
blackflagencypted mails inline are okay10:09
blackflagso how can I tell gpg or kmail to send inline gpg signewd messages inline and not attached?10:10
endo602im going to restart x to see10:10
blackflaghas someone an idea??10:11
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endo602still no good10:13
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PabloKhi10:14
vonHalenbachblackflag: http://gpg-installation.key.priv.at/gpg-installation_kmail.html10:14
PabloKsomebody can help me?10:14
blackflaghmm, thanks, but tzhis is not the problem10:15
blackflagthe problem is that when I use " inlinePGP" and sign a mail10:16
blackflagthe sign is attached and not inline10:16
vonHalenbachDa bin ich glatt berfordert.10:17
blackflagso this thing dont function correctly it seems10:17
PabloKI have a "little" problem with my root passsw10:17
wotnargPabloK: You forgot it? :p10:17
blackflagand how I say it, when I send encrypted mails inline all is okay10:17
blackflagonly "inline signing" not10:18
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vonHalenbachIm sorry . I cant help you.10:18
blackflagI mean when I only sign a mail not with encryption10:18
PabloKwotnarg: no, when I installed kubuntu, I never get the chance to set it10:19
blackflaghmm, schade10:19
vonHalenbachWhen a mail is only singed , it is not encrypted.10:19
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wotnargPabloK: Its your user password. Root is disabled, so you use sudo for everything.10:19
blackflagyes I know. There is no need to discuss that10:19
endo602wotnarg10:20
endo602dood thanks so much10:20
vonHalenbachThen i dont know.10:20
wotnargendo602: No problem :)10:20
blackflagagain, I will sent a signed mail inline and this is not running  10:20
blackflagthe sign is always attached10:20
PabloKwotnarg: thanx10:21
wotnargPabloK: Nps ;)10:21
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vonHalenbachblackflag: I dont understand the term "inline".10:23
vonHalenbachWhat do you mean by that.10:23
vonHalenbachDo you mean inhouse communication?10:24
blackflagwhen you use kmail there is the possibilityy to send signed and encrypted mails in line10:24
blackflagso other nad older clients can read such messages10:25
blackflaglike M$ -users with outlook10:25
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blackflagI dont know it correcly but I asume that it is in mail body10:26
blackflagwhen you use normal pgp in kmail10:27
blackflagoutlook users has this messages attached10:27
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wotnargsheesh... kde3.5 artsd sucks. I set amarok to output to oss, and screwed artsd entirely, and my cpu level went down by 50% :p10:28
blackflagwhen you sent it inline to them , the mail client can read this mail easy10:28
blackflagso there is no need to open it with other applications or save the mail first10:28
blackflagand how  I say it, with inline encrypted mails it works10:29
vonHalenbachI think what you describe as inline is the normal behavior of Kmail.10:29
blackflagno10:29
blackflagI have some M$ users around ;-)10:30
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blackflagand its difficult to them to open such mails10:30
blackflagI want to make it easy for them to use encryption10:30
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vonHalenbachDo we discuss Ms outlook or Kmail?10:31
blackflagand to say them how easy it is with linux10:31
blackflagkmail10:31
blackflaginline pgp using10:31
vonHalenbachEncryption and decryption is includet in Kmail.10:32
blackflagI think you dont understand me10:32
vonHalenbachIt is very easy (if it is alreddy set up).10:32
blackflaghello ::: sending signed mails inline!! thats the issue!10:33
vonHalenbachYou dont have to go on the commandline do decrypt a recived email.10:33
vonHalenbachI have set this up with gpg and Kmail once.10:34
chiinstall kleopatra and you're pretty much all set10:34
kkathmankleopatra?? lol10:35
blackflagftp-client10:35
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kkathmanI use KBear for and FTP Client10:36
kkathmanKonqueror is good for FTP also10:36
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kkathmanKonq is the simplest too10:37
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blackflagkleopatra is good with sFTP10:37
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kkathmanKonq works with most other applications too10:37
asranieli have a laptop question. the battery only lasts 1.30 hours under linux, but with windows 4 hours. what can i do? i alread lowered the backlight (is there a utility that does that? or can i only use the buttons on the laptop?) and im not realy sure that cpu freq scalling works..10:39
kkathmanasraniel: I would first, check the running processes and see if you have some runaway resources10:40
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asranielkkathman: whatever a runaway resource is. x.org needs 20% of the cpu, and expect that there is nothing interesting10:42
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Tallia1-KubuntuBhey guys, i have this request: 10:42
Tallia1-KubuntuBWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running10:43
Tallia1-KubuntuBkernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]    10:43
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__2Someone know why kaffeine close on open with avi files (installed kaffeine-xine and codecs)10:43
Tallia1-KubuntuBwhich package have i to install? is it possible that the headers are inserted in another direcotry?10:43
kkathmanTallia1-KubuntuB: what package are you trying to download10:44
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zan_dhello10:44
Tallia1-KubuntuBkkathman: vmware in order to be compiled requires the headers..10:44
kkathmanHello zan_d10:44
Tallia1-KubuntuBkkathman: and i don't know where to find them10:44
zan_di have a laptop with a busted cd drive10:45
kkathmanTallia1-KubuntuB: ok, so what package do you need?10:45
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zan_dso i pulled the hd out, and put it in a desktop machine10:45
Tallia1-KubuntuBlinux headers?10:45
zan_dinstalled there and then put it back in the laptop10:45
chiTallia1-KubuntuB: seach for linux or kernel headers10:45
kkathmanTallia1-KubuntuB:  you might could find out in #ubuntu10:45
Tallia1-KubuntuBi installed them10:45
zan_dit appears that the normal grub boot entry has some wierd display configuration10:45
zan_dthat thinks the screen is longer than it is10:45
zan_dbut the recoveruy booth i guess works10:45
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zan_dwhat is the difference between recovery mode and normal?10:46
zan_dor can i just use the recovery mode as default10:47
_liquidbinary_zan_d: recovery mode seems to drop you into a root shell so you can fix any problems before runlevel 210:48
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zan_dahh10:48
zan_dso i just hit ctrl-d10:48
_liquidbinary_yes10:49
zan_dand it booted, but worked10:49
asranielhmm, does someone know how i can find out how to make cpu frequence scalling work on a centrino laptop? or where do i find error messages why it doesent work?10:49
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vonHalenbachbye10:56
yhagerI'm having problems with kmail ever since upgrading to breezy. Can anyone help?10:56
chiasraniel: check dmesg for any msgs. 10:57
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_andreahi guys11:02
unsurrealhello11:02
_andrea:-) ok seems that my kubuntu connexts properly11:02
_andreai've finished installing and playing arounf11:03
_andread11:03
unsurrealquestions i assume?11:03
_andreanot for the moment :-)11:03
_andreaeverything went fine ;-)11:03
unsurreallol11:03
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_andreaI had problems with suse 1011:03
unsurrealtry playing a windows avi :P11:03
_andreaahahahah11:03
unsurrealfirst time linux or no?11:03
_andreai left mplayer for another day......11:03
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_andreanope used suse and mandrake for about 1 year11:04
sector10hi11:04
_andreahi sector11:04
sector10i got a couple small problems new install11:04
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_andreaI just installed java and flash for the moment11:04
_andrealet's see if a newbie can help 11:04
ElsanAmaroK stops working when I have playlist in GNOME. I have no idea if it does the same in KDE. I can't use Rhythmbox because it also bugs in GNOME.11:04
sector10on opening firefox error /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork cannot be found11:05
crimsuninstall it.11:05
N6REJapokryphos: you here?11:05
sector10also my fonts dont look as good as in ubuntu11:05
crimsunsector10: so adjust the fonts settings11:05
_andreafor the fonts...11:05
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sector10crimsun: to what?11:05
_andreatry playing with subpixel hinting11:05
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_andreai found rgb is the best on my monitor11:06
crimsunsector10: use whatever you find makes it look better11:06
_andreabut it really depends on the monitor11:06
_andreaI've got an lcd of a laptop here11:06
sector10its a notebook11:06
_andreawhich one sector11:06
sector10right now i got dejavu sans11:06
sector10sony vaio11:06
_andreauhm you could give a try to msttcorefont11:07
_andrealol same as mine11:07
_andreagrx416G11:07
_andrea17'' monitor11:07
sector10_andrea: vgn-fs660?w11:07
sector10_andrea: mine is with nvidia and widescreen11:07
_andreauhm the same of my bro11:07
_andreathe little white one ?11:07
_andreavery mac look alike ?11:08
sector10msttcorefonts wont change the desktop or menus11:08
sector10yes11:08
sector10it looks like an ibook a little11:08
_andreayep will install linux on it next week :-)11:08
sector10ipw2200 is a nightmare11:08
_andreai tried the live and got some problems11:08
sector10works only on ubuntu because its eht011:09
sector10eth011:09
_andreaipw2200 ? wifi ?11:09
sector10on other distros its second as eth1 and will not work11:09
sector10yes11:09
sector10it needs to be detected first 11:09
_andreaweird....thi wifi is weird11:09
_andreai tried suse on my vaio and didn't configure wifi11:09
sector10the vaio bios is buggy11:09
_andreakubuntu did it11:09
sector10fuk suse11:09
_andreaahahahah11:10
sector10i tried for 3 days 11:10
_andreait was my first distro :-)11:10
sector10me too11:10
_andrea9.011:10
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sector106.111:10
_andreawow11:10
sector10so i know something11:10
_andreai guess im much more newbie than you :-)11:10
sector10but no the wireless11:10
_andreawell I'll tell u11:10
_andreai tried 3 diferent wifi card11:10
sector10its a charade of having to go back and forth in yast 11:10
_andreawith suse11:10
_andreaand non worked11:11
_andreanone11:11
_andreai guess its a problem of suse11:11
sector10i would not bother 11:11
sector10it will work if you pay them maybe11:11
_andreaeheheh probably11:12
sector10i think its broke on purpose11:12
_andreayep I would really be curious to see the pay versionb11:12
sector10all they have to do is patch the kernel11:12
sector10ipw2200 is not even part of opensuse11:12
sector10or is the firmware11:12
_andreadid u give a try to ndiswrapper11:12
_andrea?11:13
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sector10no took too long11:13
asranielis there a config file for powernowd??11:13
sector10i need to work11:13
_andreasame problem here11:13
_andreawhat do you do ?11:13
_andreai do mainly maths with gretl and R11:13
sector10_andrea: there is a site for ubuntu laptop testers11:13
_andreauhm also for kubuntu ?11:14
_andrea....i really enjoy kde over gnome11:15
sector10_andrea: im a teacher11:16
sector10me too11:16
_andreahow do u send pvt msg ?? :-) can't remeber the command11:16
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sector10right click on name11:17
sector10open dialog window11:17
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sector10what fonts are your desktop font settings in kubuntu?11:17
_andreai got verdana 1211:18
_andreawith RGB subpixel hinting11:18
_andrealooks very nice11:18
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N6REJ_andrea: right click on their nick 11:19
trothi have downloaded a tarball and extracteded it to my desktop, it created a folder as expected but im not sure what to do next pls help11:20
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logikalok guys11:20
N6REJtroth: look inside for a README or INSTALL follow those instructions11:20
_andreatroth...is there a configure file ?11:20
logikalHow do i install ATI's accelerated video drivers?11:20
_andreathen you better read the install file11:20
sector10_andrea: do you see private message window?11:21
_andreayes....desperatly trying to find an accept button :-D11:21
sector10crap i was on ubuntu irc just now sorry11:21
trothi dont see a readme, install, or config file11:21
_andreatroth....what is this ?11:22
trotheasy ubuntu11:22
asranielcould it be that powernowd doesent change the cpu frequency because my cpu load never gets under 20% which is the default value for lowering cpu frequency11:22
_andreathen it's an executable script11:22
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elcucobtw, who's the chick on the front page of kubuntu's web page?11:22
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_andreayou'd better read the website help11:22
_andreaahahahah shes nice imho ;-)11:23
N6REJlol11:23
_andreabut i dont know who she is11:23
_andreacan you introduce me :-D11:23
sector10verdana is better11:23
trothsays this Download Easy Ubuntu and extract it (double click on EasyUbuntu-2.1.tar.gz). Go into the EasyUbuntu directory and double click on the EasyUbuntu file. You're asked for your password.11:23
trothbut when i try to open the file nothing happens11:24
sector10someone please help with the firefox error in kubuntu11:24
_andreasector i've got no problems with firefox !!?!11:24
sector10i get an error that ubuntu-artwork cannot be found11:24
elcucocan anyone help confirm http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17287 ?11:24
troththe only easyubuntu file is a shell script, what do i do with that?11:24
sector10firefox works i just dont want to see the stupid error11:25
_andreathere should be a spacif message on ubuntu forums11:25
_andreaspecific11:25
_andreasomething like firefox instability adressed11:25
sector10maybe it does same thing in ubuntu ill check11:25
trothsector10 = go into prefereces and set a home page11:25
sector10ok11:25
trothhappened tyo me11:25
_andreaohhhh ok11:25
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_andreahe cant find the local homepage graphics11:26
troth_andrea: correct11:26
sector10works11:26
sector10stupid bug11:26
_andreaeheheh we need lot of patience with those penguins...11:26
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_andrea(ehm i know my english sounds terrible probably...im from italy)11:27
troth_andrea: im surprised that I actually just helped someone11:27
_andrea:-) it happens11:27
_andreauhm how do u make those little pvt msg ?11:27
_andreacant get the right command :-/11:28
sector10i just sent you a message andrea11:28
trothok, so what do i do with a shell script file?11:28
thehil how do I enable spell check in GNOME?11:28
_andreauhm usually:11:28
_andreaa. check if it has the right permissions11:28
sector10go to my name and right click11:28
_andreawith ls -l from shell11:28
_andreain the directory11:28
trothk11:29
_andreaif it doesn't contain an x 11:29
_andreachmod +x nameofthefile11:29
trothwhat directory should i usually extract things to, if any?11:29
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_andreawhat you like11:29
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trothit extracts to the desktop by default11:29
_andreai usually extract in my download folder11:29
trothok i see11:29
_andreajust to clean the mess11:30
_andreathen point b11:30
_andreayou tipe 11:30
_andreasudo ./nameofthefile11:30
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_andreaguys i just discovered no mplayer in the repositories :-//11:31
_andreaI'll have to spend tim eon it :-D11:31
troth_andrea: says this drwxr-xr-x11:32
_andreaok it's executable11:32
_andreathen 11:32
_andreatype11:32
_andreasudo ./nameofit11:32
trothk11:32
_andreais mplayer out of repos for license problems ?11:33
asranielis there somewhere a config file for powernowd?11:33
mojhas anyone else had problems getting wep to work in the kde wireless config?11:33
_andreauhm asraniel don't really know it11:33
troth_andrea: sudo ./drwxr-xr-x or sudo ./EasyUbuntu ?11:33
_andreanope everything fine with my dlink pcmcia11:33
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_andreathe second one troth11:34
mojI have a dlink pcmcia too.11:34
mojeverything works fine without encryption.11:34
_andreathen all you need to do11:34
mojwhen I use wep, then I can't connect.11:34
_andreais put the essid name and wep password11:34
_andreaor at least it worked here11:34
mojI'll try again.11:35
mojwonder what I'm doing wrong then...11:35
_andreadid u check the settings ?11:35
_andrealike dhcp etc ?11:35
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_andreauhm just curious ....anybody from italy ?11:36
mojyes.11:36
mojdhcp works fine..11:36
asranielpff, i cannot remove powernowd, because kubuntu-desktop has it as a dependecy11:36
logikalhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI11:36
mojthe only change I make is enable encryption..11:36
logikalI see no driver for breezy on there11:36
logikalwhat can i do?11:36
_andreaweird moj i've got dwl-650+11:36
mojthen I add the key.11:36
_andreaand the essid name11:36
mojI have the same one (no plus)11:37
troth_andrea: gives this error http://pastebin.ca/2641111:37
mojyes. essid name was same.11:37
_andreait didnt' work before i inserted the name of the spot i wanted to get connected to11:37
_andreauhm....11:38
mojyou mean the router?11:38
_andreai think so,....did you give a name to your wifi network ?11:38
_andreai named mine bartsimpson11:38
mojyes. I did.11:38
mojI put that in the essid name.11:39
_andreayes11:39
mojworks great.11:39
mojthen ..11:39
mojwhen I check the encryption box..11:39
mojno dice,.11:39
_andreauhm11:39
_andreai've got problems like this with my pocketpc11:40
mojreally?11:40
_andreayes11:40
_andreaonly without encryption my pocketpc would connect11:40
_andreait didn't like wep11:40
mojsame here.11:40
mojsame exact thing.11:40
_andreayour transmitter is dlink ?11:41
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mojshould authentication be open or shared?11:41
mojyes./11:41
_andreai think open11:41
mojdi 52411:41
mojk11:41
_andreabut not really sure11:41
mojI'll try both.11:41
_andreadwl-900+ here11:41
_andreauhm....I read once that dlink stuff could have glitches on wep11:42
_andreabut i din't know it when i got it on a sale :-(11:42
mojha. same here. 11:42
mojyou mean dlink routers, nics or both?11:42
_andreaboth for the article11:43
mojah.11:43
_andreasome models had problems11:43
_andreabut i only got probs with the pocketpc11:43
mojWell that's double trouble for me since I have both.11:43
_andreaehehe same here11:43
mojI did upgrade the firmware on the router.11:43
_andreabut they are both 1 and 1/2 years old11:43
mojhopefully that got rid of the bugs.11:44
_andreaI'll change them after christmas 11:44
_andreai think i'll buy cysco11:44
_andreacisco11:44
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_andreathey "should" be better11:44
_andrea(and more expensive :-( )11:44
mojha. well the home version is just linksys w/ a cisco name on it though.11:45
_andreaoh...really ?11:45
mojlinksys is a good brand, though.11:45
mojyep.11:45
mojcisco bought them.11:45
_andreaok11:45
_andreathey are all hungry those big guys11:46
_andrea:-)11:46
mojthe expensive stuff (enterprise) is the real deal. 11:46
mojyeah. It is sad.  :(11:46
_andreai wonder if they would buy me a new house too :-D11:46
mojha. they would probably rent it out. 11:46
_andreaentreprise = super expensive.....11:47
_andreaeheheh11:47
mojabsolutely. 11:47
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_andreado you know of any easy soft to draw house plans like on cad ?11:47
_andreaI need to draw the new one....11:47
_andreaand couldnt find anything suitable like finson3d home architect for win11:48
mojtry dia.11:48
mojthink its dia.sf.net11:49
mojwell.11:49
mojmy bad..11:49
_andreadia ill check it11:49
mojthat's for viso type diagrams.11:49
mojsorry.11:49
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_andreaif u can leave wep off11:49
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_andreahere in italy for the moment it's pretty safe11:49
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_andreano hackers around in town11:50
_andrea:-)11:50
mojI can't for a long period of time -- a little scary.11:50
mojha. that's cool.11:50
_andreayes not many people able with computers11:50
crimsunshould be using WPA at least11:50
mojfor cad try searching for cad in freshmeat.net11:50
_andreai think dia will do the trick11:51
mojI know. but I don;t think my router supports it.11:51
_andrealooking at it right now11:51
mojonce I get wep going...I am going to put a wired router behind my wireless one..11:51
moj..so my wired stuff is still about as secure as it was before.11:52
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_andreai had the same idea here11:52
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_andreabut my provider is a cable provider and we are all in an internal network11:52
mojand maybe turn off wifi when I won't be using it for a long time.11:52
mojyeah. that should be all right.11:52
_andreai turn it off every night ;-)11:52
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mojme too. 11:52
_andreajust unplug it11:52
mojthat works.11:53
_andreaehi 11:54
_andreai just discovered katapult11:54
_andreanice trick :-D11:54
mojI've heard of that. Can't remember what it is though.  11:55
_andreait's a launcher a la apple style11:55
_andreajust press alt and spacebar together11:55
_andreathen write the forst letters of the name of the soft u want to launch11:56
_andreait's super fast :D good thing11:56
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_andreauhm midnight here.....I think I'll go to bed.....11:57
_andreagoodnight all11:57
unsurreallol11:57
unsurrealwhere u at?11:57
_andreaitaly11:58
unsurrealsend me some pasta11:58
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_andreaahahah in tar.gz or deb ?11:58
unsurrealbzip211:58
unsurreal:)11:58
_andreahttp://images.google.it/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ilnido.it/tagliatelle_ai_porcini.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.ilnido.it/menu_ristorante.htm&h=250&w=320&sz=15&tbnid=AmdSWNhUFEEJ:&tbnh=88&tbnw=113&hl=it&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtagliatelle%2Bai%2Bfunghi%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dit%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:it-IT:unofficial%26sa%3DN11:59
_andreaops11:59
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_andreahttp://www.ilnido.it/spaghetti_alle_vongole.JPG12:00
_andrea:-)12:00
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_andreaok goodnight all12:00
_andreayawnnnn12:00
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