[12:00] <graeme_> thanks
[12:00] <escobar5> ompaul, thank you very much
[12:00] <Zeep> While running the configure-script, I get the following error message. What shall I do?
[12:00] <Zeep> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[12:00] <ompaul> escobar5, np
[12:00] <steigweis> i have a serious problem with my lan connection on ubuntu breezy. i am not sure, if thats a bug in the 2.6. kernel, because on debian sarge  2.4 it worked - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=438066#post438066  please help :=)
[12:01] <ompaul> Zeep, what package are you trying to install?
[12:01] <Zeep> ompaul: KNetdockapp
[12:01] <mebsd> what is the biggest difference between ubuntu and debian
[12:01] <Zeep> ompaul: I had no problem compiling it on a SuSE box
[12:02] <bob2> Zeep: install build-essential
[12:03] <calamari> hi
[12:03] <bob2> guilherme: I've told you how to fix your problem...
[12:03] <Zeep> bob2: Okay, I'll give it a try
[12:03] <logikal> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[12:03] <logikal>        Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[12:03] <logikal> HELP! :(
[12:03] <corincole> could anyone help me setup phpmyadmin? im getting this error message: "The configuration file now needs a secret passphrase (blowfish_secret)."
[12:03] <ompaul> zeep, run that  >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<<
[12:03] <Zeep> bob2: Thank you very much - you see, I'm a long-time SuSE-user ;-)
[12:04] <calamari> All the sudden my cpu usage went to 100% (stil lthere) and my mouse pointer is skipping.. according to top, Xorg is using 60-70% cpu.  Any ideas why?  I'm just sitting here, not moving windows, etc
[12:04] <Zeep> ompaul: I do have apt on my SuSE box, too - so, no problem, but thanks :-)
[12:04] <ompaul> np
[12:04] <bob2> logikal: ask macromedia to make a amd64 flash plugin
[12:04] <bob2> logikal: if you care about binary-only crap, tho, you should be using the i386 port
[12:04] <logikal> how do i do that
[12:04] <daffodil> can anyone help me with getting mozilla firefox to work?  all of the sudden it stopped working right around the time two updates wouldn't install, so i tried uninstalling and reinstalling, but now it won't reinstall
[12:05] <bob2> logikal: reinstall with the i386 cd
[12:05] <guilherme> bob2: i'm reading the synaptic package manager but just have the php4 connection to postgree.. but it's ok, i still reading the pages you recommended
[12:05] <logikal> I like 64 bit :)
[12:05] <Zeep> ompaul: bob2: Works, thank you
[12:05] <bob2> daffodil: a) "two updates wouldn't install"? b) paste your /etc/apt/sources.list and the full output from apt to #flood
[12:05] <bob2> logikal: you seem to like binary-only software more, tho
[12:05] <calamari> ahh.. top was lying.. once I closed Kstars the problem went away
[12:05] <daffodil> bob2, hang on
[12:06] <bob2> calamari: programs can ask X to do a lot of work for them
[12:06] <logikal> I just want flash plugin :\
[12:06] <logikal> and I want it to work
[12:06] <bob2> logikal: time to use i386 then
[12:06] <bob2> until you can wean yourself off binary-only junk
[12:07] <logikal> Is there another way to install it?
[12:07] <bob2> not a simple one
[12:07] <bob2> daffodil: uh, yay backports
[12:07] <logikal> Can i just change the code, is it string checking?
[12:07] <bob2> daffodil: remove them from your sources.list, and do not use them again until you know how to debug them
[12:07] <bob2> logikal: no
[12:07] <wotnarg> logikal: It wont work for you, don't bother.
[12:07] <nalioth> logikal: to switch to i386 from 64-bit, it's gonna take a complete reinstall
[12:08] <blackvd> anyone know how I can change my browser plugin to use mplayer instead of totem(which never works)
[12:08] <daffodil> bob2, ok, but in the meantime, how can i get mozilla firefox working again?  i've never had a problem like tihs before
[12:08] <blackvd> oh and I'm using firefox
[12:08] <bob2> 08:07:37           bob2 | daffodil: remove them from your sources.list, and do not use them again until you know how to debug them
[12:08] <bob2> daffodil: then sudo dpkg -P --force-depends firefox firefox-gnome-support
[12:08] <escobar5> anyone, when i'm in amarok, the only engine that appears is gstreamer, how do i do to install another engine that supports mp3??
[12:08] <daffodil> ok
[12:08] <bob2> escobar5: apt-cache search amarok
[12:09] <hidari> How do I ADD a serial mouse to my xorg.conf?  I want a serial mouse in addition to the Configured Mouse.  I configure the PC with a PS/2 mouse in my room and then move it to my living room where there is a serial mouse.
[12:09] <bob2> hidari: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, is the simplest way
[12:09] <hidari> bob2, won't that remove my ps/2 mouse?
[12:09] <anna_> hello everyone.! can somebody please help me to install azureus? im totally new to linux and i dont have a clue how it works
[12:09] <Zeep> How are Ubuntus x-devel packages called?
[12:09] <bob2> hidari: do you care?
[12:10] <anna_> (sorry for my english)
[12:10] <bob2> Zeep: there isn't one, really. try xlibs-dev.
[12:10] <escobar5> bob2, nothing
[12:10] <hidari> bob2, yes since I move this pc around some times based on what needs to be configured since it is my media pc
[12:10] <hidari> bob2, and my wireless keyboard has a serial mouse built into it
[12:10] <bob2> hidari: backup X config file. run command I gave you. look at the block it added for serial mouse.  add block to old file. overwrite new one.
[12:10] <wotnarg> escobar5: gstreamer surports mp3... I'm using it atm :p
[12:11] <warreng> how would i make it so nm-applet always starts up?
[12:11] <hidari> bob2, good idea.  thx
[12:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell anna_ about repos
[12:11] <bob2> warreng: add it to your gnome session, system -> preferences -> session
[12:11] <anna_> hm?
[12:11] <bartocc> hi all
[12:12] <LinuxMonkey> thanx bob2
[12:12] <anna_> hi malioth! sorry.. what is repos?
[12:12] <nalioth> anna_: look at your private messages
[12:12] <techII> umm, what exactly is the difference between "nvidia-glx" and "nvidia-glx-legacy"?
[12:12] <Hentai^NT> nalioth is it possible with ubuntu to set it up to make a cluster?
[12:12] <bartocc> is there a channel specialised about installing ubuntu on a ppc ?
[12:12] <daffodil> yay it works now, thanks bob2 :)
[12:12] <anna_> erm.. how do i do this? ^^
[12:12] <blackvd> anyone know how I can change my browser plugin to use mplayer instead of totem(which never works)
[12:12] <LinuxMonkey> legacy supports older cards
[12:12] <techII> gforce2 MX?
[12:12] <nalioth> anna_: what irc client do you use?
[12:12] <escobar5> wotnarg, but it doesn't play any file to me
[12:13] <warreng> also, when my computer boots up, it hangs at "configuring network interfaces" for about a minute... i think it's trying to get an IP for my ethernet... but i use wireless usually.. how can i make it not hang?
[12:13] <anna_> thank you malioth! i just found out ;)
[12:13] <anna_> i use the client that is in ubuntu from the beginning
[12:13] <LinuxMonkey> not sure techII
[12:13] <techII> on gentoo, i only had to deal with one package...
[12:14] <nalioth> anna_: enable universe and multiverse repositories
[12:14] <wotnarg> escobar5: You need to install another package. Lemme find what it is.
[12:14] <LinuxMonkey> try one, you can always revert back by replacing your old conf file
[12:14] <anna_> i think i already did this.. its so ebarresing.. i dont understand the tutorials at all :(
[12:14] <Fulbrite> does anyone know how to fix grub error 15?
[12:15] <N6REJ> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3530 ok, what of these do I want set.  I will probably be only accessing it via ssh
[12:15] <anna_> they all say something about "konsole" i dont know what this word is in english..
[12:15] <anna_> maybe they mean "terminal"
[12:15] <nalioth> anna_: deutch-spreche in #ubuntu-de
[12:15] <N6REJ> sorry, wrong window
[12:15] <anna_> how do i get there maloith?
[12:15] <techII> anna_: konsole is kde's terminal program
[12:16] <nalioth> anna_: yes console - terminal
[12:16] <nalioth> anna_: shreiben /j #ubuntu-de
[12:16] <anna_> ok.. thank you very much! i will try it
[12:17] <wotnarg> escobar5: try libmad0 and gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:17] <Spidy> do any of you know how, on the Live CD version of Ubuntu, I'd change my window manager to KDE?
[12:17] <escobar5> wotnarg apt-get install??
[12:17] <wotnarg> yea
[12:18] <VooDoo> hi all
[12:18] <propagandhi> Spidy - you'd have to have the Kubuntu live cd
[12:19] <ninjafish> hidari, what module do I have to install to get the linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 files
[12:19] <ninjafish> hi , what module do I have to install to get the linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 files
[12:19] <escobar5> wotnarg, nothing, it says: the gst engine claims it cannot play mp3 files.
[12:19] <ninjafish> hidari sorry auto complete
[12:19] <nalioth> ninjafish: "linux-headers"  (use synaptic)
[12:19] <hidari> ninjafish: apt-get install linux-headers-686 is what I have but you need 386
[12:19] <johndilley> Spidy: http://www.kubuntu.org has the KDE version of ubuntu
[12:19] <ninjafish> :->
[12:19] <ninjafish> doh
[12:19] <Spidy> Thanks propaghandi, I just found it and am gonna download it now.
[12:20] <escobar5> wotnarg, sorry, yes, it works, thank you
[12:20] <Zeep> Next problem
[12:21] <Zeep> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[12:21] <Zeep> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[12:21] <Zeep> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[12:21] <Zeep> kde-config --prefix
[12:21] <Zeep> /usr
[12:21] <mustard5> If I reinstall win98 on another partition, (to get STEAM working), what issues am I going to face?
[12:21] <VooDoo> zeep:  my beers gone flat :)
[12:21] <Zeep> Shouldn't /usr be the right prefix?
[12:21] <wotnarg> escobar5: You have multiverse, universe, and restricted enabled, right?
[12:22] <escobar5> wotnarg, now the problem is that the song is playing, but i dont hear it
[12:22] <propagandhi> Zeep: the prefix is right but you need to install the kde development librarires
[12:22] <propagandhi> *libraries
[12:22] <wotnarg> mustard5: Some windows install disks are nukehappy, and they will kill all your partitions. The dell install disk isnt, but others are.
[12:22] <Zeep> propagandhi: Argh, how could I miss that ;-)
[12:22] <_SuBsTyL3_> i have a big problem after the installtion of 5.10......
[12:22] <Zeep> propagandhi: It's obvious, thanks ...
[12:22] <propagandhi> Zeep: it's easy reallyy
[12:22] <wotnarg> escobar5: heh, the fun artsd problem. I assume your using kde, no?
[12:22] <escobar5> wotnarg, sorry again, now it's working
[12:23] <escobar5> thank you
[12:23] <wotnarg> escobar5: :)
[12:23] <wotnarg> escobar5: Nps.
[12:23] <Zeep> propagandhi: I allready did that a thousand times with suse, but at the moment I'm a bit tired ;-)
[12:23] <propagandhi> ha ha
[12:23] <mustard5> wotnarg, k thanks
[12:23] <DrZeus> hi all.  How can I disable the doubleclick of the touchpad?
[12:24] <DrZeus> i want to disable that feature of the touchpad; how is that done?
[12:24] <hidari> How do I add two different InputDevices for my mouse in xorg.conf ?    I want to have my PS/2 and SERIAL mouse to work like have the system auto detect which one is in at that time.  It works with PS/2 if that is the only mouse in the config and same as the serial, but how do I join them together to have X auto detect which one to use?
[12:24] <anna_> nalioth?
[12:24] <nalioth> yes?
[12:25] <_SuBsTyL3_> i installed with the bootparameters: "linux nolapic acpi=off noacip" cause if i not the installtion will freeze.....and now after reboot it hangs if the "hotplug subsystem" should get started...does anybody know what i can do????? i try it since 2 days!!!!
[12:25] <DrZeus> doesw anybody knows how to disable the singleclick of the touchpad in a laptop?
[12:25] <anna_> sorry to steal your time ;) i appreciate it
[12:25] <JaZyLNX> can someone help me with a problem with gcc/g++
[12:25] <morale> whats your problem?
[12:25] <mustard5> JaZyLNX, ask your question and we will see
[12:26] <DrZeus> mustard5, morale , dont know how to disable the single click of a touchpad?
[12:26] <sizzam> if i am playing an mp3 in xmms, i can't get sound in vmware (vmplayer)
[12:26] <propagandhi> DrZeus: in your xoeg.conf do you have options for maxtaptime and maxtapmove
[12:26] <propagandhi> *xorg.conf
[12:26] <mustard5> DrZeus, I don't even know what a touchpad is ;)
[12:26] <dmlinux> How do install a file from an RPM
[12:26] <JaZyLNX> where can i paste to?
[12:26] <nalioth> dmlinux: why would you want to do that?
[12:26] <nalioth> paste
[12:26] <nalioth> !paste
[12:26] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:27] <_SuBsTyL3_>  i installed with the bootparameters: "linux nolapic acpi=off noacip" cause if i not the installtion will freeze.....and now after reboot it hangs if the "hotplug subsystem" should get started...does anybody know what i can do????? i try it since 2 days!!!!
[12:27] <dmlinux> nalioth um. ok how do i install whatever is in a rpm
[12:27] <nalioth> dmlinux: is the pkg not available in the repos?
[12:27] <techII> something to do with "alien" i would think...
[12:27] <DrZeus> mustard5, really...
[12:27] <JaZyLNX> posted in flood
[12:27] <JaZyLNX> the lib i'm trying to include is iostream
[12:27] <techII> never used it when i was running debian
[12:27] <techII> so no idea
[12:27] <mustard5> DrZeus, I can only assume it is a pad that you touch :)
[12:28] <nalioth> techII: there are other considerations before we talk to UFOs
[12:28] <DrZeus> the little square that U use in a laptop genius
[12:28] <morale> JaZyLNX, and.. whats wrong? iostream is a c++ header.
[12:28] <nalioth> mustard5: input device on laptops
[12:28] <propagandhi> DrZeus: if you have those options in xorg.conf, just set them to 0
[12:28] <mustard5> ah ok :)
[12:28] <JaZyLNX> look in #flood
[12:28] <techII> nalioth: yep
[12:28] <JaZyLNX> it won't compile says it can't find all the
[12:28] <nalioth> dmlinux: if the pkg is available via ubuntu repos, you should get it from there
[12:28] <JaZyLNX> sr/include/c++/4.0.2/cstdlib:57:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
[12:29] <JaZyLNX> says it can't find the headers
[12:29] <nalioth> dmlinux: alien -i file.rpm, i believe
[12:29] <JaZyLNX> that's off a clean install of ubuntu
[12:29] <nalioth> dmlinux: dont say we didnt warn you
[12:29] <morale> install the linux headers package
[12:29] <nalioth> JaZyLNX: install "linux-headers" to match your kernel (use synaptic to find them)
[12:29] <Quidoff> does anybody know how to install skype under AMD64 Ubuntu 5.10?
[12:29] <DrZeus> I dont know if there are options in xorg.conf, dont know the name of the option
[12:30] <dmlinux> nalioth ill wait till he epllains it to me , ty anyway
[12:30] <_SuBsTyL3_> hello? does anybody know why my notebook freezes by starting the hotplug subsystem???? can sb help me for a short moment?
[12:30] <DrZeus> nalioth, what could be the name of that option?
[12:30] <JaZyLNX> lemme try that
[12:30] <JaZyLNX> brb
[12:31] <nalioth> DrZeus: all i know about xorg is how to reconfigure it
[12:31] <DrZeus> nalioth, tell me what could I reconfigure it
[12:32] <propagandhi> DrZeus: the options are maxtaptime and maxtapmove
[12:32] <pierre_> salut
[12:32] <propagandhi> if they are there
[12:32] <nalioth> DrZeus: in a console, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:32] <propagandhi> if not paste the xorg.conf in the pastebin
[12:32] <DrZeus> what will open?
[12:33] <_SuBsTyL3_> it seems nobody can help me or want answer me......cu @ all
[12:34] <mustard5> _SuBsTyL3_, patience is required
[12:34] <propagandhi> _SuBsTyL3_: do you have any USB devices attached
[12:34] <nalioth> DrZeus: a wizard to reconfigure your xserver
[12:34] <johnny_> hi
[12:34] <Quidoff> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3531
[12:35] <Nothingman> hi, all
[12:35] <johnny_> I have a probelm with my wireless card, all else finally running, I cannot get the wireless network to work
[12:35] <_SuBsTyL3_> mustard5: ok, sry..but i'm very frustrated :P
[12:35] <Nothingman> trying to get 3d working on an iMac, and none of the howtos or forums seem to address my problem
[12:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell johnny_ about wireless
[12:35] <Nothingman> I get symbol errors trying to run gdm
[12:36] <Quidoff> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3532
[12:36] <nalioth> Nothingman: what imac?
[12:36] <DrZeus> even if I just want to disable the single click of the touchpad, I have to reconfigure the X server?
[12:36] <johnny_> I have trendnet card based on ti acx-111 - the open source acx driver does not support wpa, so I have no got the card recognised under ndiswrapper
[12:36] <nalioth> DrZeus: i'm not up on xserver settings
[12:36] <johnny_> but I cannot seem to get wpa to work
[12:36] <nalioth> johnny_: wpa wont work, afaik
[12:37] <_SuBsTyL3_> propagandhi: yes, it's a notebook with usb 2.0 (and i have an usb-mouse....)
[12:37] <DrZeus> it opened the videocard configuration
[12:37] <propagandhi> DrZeus: I've been trying to tell you
[12:37] <johnny_> @nalioth not even with ndis?
[12:37] <propagandhi> _SuBsTyL3_: have u tried without the USB mouse attached
[12:37] <nalioth> johnny_: afaik, no
[12:37] <solidgroove> no kernel sources 2.6.12-9 with that boot splash avaliable on any repository is there?
[12:38] <Nothingman> nalioth, a G3, I think running 266 MHz
[12:38] <g|patrick> hi
[12:38] <DrZeus> propagandhi, please tell me again
[12:38] <Nothingman> lime, if that helps :-P
[12:38] <g|patrick> need a recommendation.
[12:38] <solidgroove> i want to make a small kernel that boots fast and I want that new ubuntu boot splash with the debian patches
[12:38] <DrZeus> ok, let me paste it
[12:38] <nalioth> Nothingman: it didnt enable it in the install?
[12:38] <g|patrick> is there a ftp tool like filezilla avaible for linux?
[12:39] <Nothingman> glpatrick: always double down on 15
[12:39] <Nothingman> nalioth: no
[12:39] <g|patrick> hi nalioth, how are u?
[12:39] <johnny_> :nalioth : odd I though http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/WPA would  help me but you appear to say wpa does not work
[12:39] <_SuBsTyL3_> yes....i tried a lot of things...reinstalling, different boot-parameters, starting only the otebook without any peripherals.....i don't know more things i could do.... :/
[12:39] <Nothingman> 3d was kinda choppy
[12:39] <efkoj> what the command to find out ping?
[12:39] <Nothingman> it was using the ati driver
[12:39] <nalioth> g|patrick: howdy
[12:39] <efkoj> ping == ip
[12:39] <_SuBsTyL3_> propagandhi: yes....i tried a lot of things...reinstalling, different boot-parameters, starting only the otebook without any peripherals.....i don't know more things i could do.... :/
[12:39] <mustard5> efkoj,  ping
[12:39] <efkoj> i mean what the command to know and change my ip
[12:39] <nalioth> johnny_: all the things i've read re ubuntu and ndiswrapper say that
[12:40] <g|patrick> or can someone tell me how to use konqueror as ftp client?
[12:40] <mirak> how to change the scanning device in XSANE ?
[12:40] <johnny_> okay, thanks, seems odd though, why should ubuntu have such problems with ndis --- I do not mean to get on your case am just wondering
[12:40] <DrZeus> propagandhi, there it is http://pastebin.com/403499
[12:40] <DrZeus> http://pastebin.com/403499
[12:40] <johnny_> all else is great
[12:40] <mustard5> efkoj, ifconfig I think will show your ip I believe, changing it I have no idea myself
[12:40] <propagandhi> _SuBsTyL3_: does it eventually boot, or if you hit CTRL+C at hotplug does it continue
[12:40] <Nothingman> g|patrick: should just work with ftp://your.ftp.server
[12:40] <nalioth> johnny_: idk, i just report what i read and see in here
[12:41] <g|patrick> no...
[12:41] <g|patrick> i need a tool which allows login to that account
[12:41] <mustafa> hi e.body, i installed 5.10 yet,
[12:41] <g|patrick> its not a simple ftp-server
[12:41] <g|patrick> ists my webspace
[12:41] <something_else> are there any updates to monodevelop on any apt sources?
[12:41] <g|patrick> and i need access to the fiels
[12:42] <g|patrick> files
[12:42] <mustafa> but i coldn't install my keyb settings,
[12:42] <heath> newbie here.  can someone recommend an easy to use p2p program?
[12:42] <mustafa> can s.body help me pls
[12:42] <nekostar> i got my kubuntu-desktop in successfully it seems :)
[12:42] <johnny_> thanks nalioth
[12:43] <johnny_> will keep trying, cos otherwise not all that great... one other question is it possible that when both wireless and ethernet are on that I do not get a connection anymore?
[12:43] <Paradoxx> heath: hmm.. www.buythesoftware.com has some good s/w
[12:43] <propagandhi> DrZeus: http://pastebin.com/403505
[12:43] <nalioth> johnny_: i've seen that and it has been reported in here that "yes, both network things cancel each other" or some such
[12:43] <heath> thank you!! I will check that out.
[12:44] <Paradoxx> !p2p
[12:44] <ubotu> Paradoxx: Are you on ritalin?
[12:44] <antisocialboris> hi, can someone help me install enemy territory?
[12:44] <nalioth> johnny_: disable one of them
[12:44] <chavo> g|patrick, is your webserver running ssh?
[12:44] <propagandhi> DrZeus: I've added two options to the Synaptic section, try adding them and restart the X server
[12:44] <Paradoxx> heath: lol, if you want, you are probably better off just useing bit torrent..
[12:44] <DrZeus> ok propagandhi , let me check
[12:44] <chavo> antisocialboris, sure we can try
[12:45] <Nothingman> nalioth: any recommendations?
[12:45] <antisocialboris> i've d/led a file et-linux....run how do i use it?
[12:45] <Paradoxx> heath: well, i just did a cache search, you can try out amule...
[12:45] <_SuBsTyL3_> propagandhi: no, it freezes ever, ctrl+c or not it freeze......but if i wait for one hour it started, but only the console...... :/
[12:45] <chavo> antisocialboris, sudo sh filename.run
[12:45] <heath> Ayh (Cartman imitation)! I will check it out but being new to Linux it looks a bit much to setup.
[12:45] <Paradoxx> haven't used it myself, but it comes up, also phex is another p2p client, though its not in synaptic...
[12:45] <antisocialboris> thanks
[12:46] <heath> I will check out amule, too. Thank you!
[12:46] <nalioth> Nothingman: have you been to the wiki or forums?
[12:46] <Nothingman> all through the forums
[12:46] <anonim_> hi
[12:46] <Paradoxx> heath: BUY the s/w....switching to opensource is slightly redundant, if you still gonna steal the stuff
[12:46] <anonim_> cwele
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> GPL Warez Kiddies.
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:46] <Stormx_> what happened to the userlist?
[12:46] <TokenBad> ok trying to set up vsftp...and set up a user account...when try to ftp in..get can't change to the dir i set up for them...and login fails
[12:47] <anonim_> jest tu jakis polskii kanal smiecie?
[12:47] <chavo> he probably wants to steal music and movies also
[12:47] <Stormx_> Don't we all.
[12:47] <Stormx_> Uhg
[12:47] <Stormx_> I want my breezy cds to come :(
[12:47] <Stormx_> I know
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> Stormx_,  i though that was a Right? :P
[12:47] <Stormx_> I'll download one
[12:47] <SEJeff> finally, they have OO.o 2.0 stable debs
[12:48] <heath> Paradoxx: haven't seen software yet that isn't free. Then again, I've only been at it for a week so I'm still trying to figure all this out.
[12:48] <Stormx_> on ubuntu?
[12:48] <Stormx_> All free.
[12:48] <sam_> has anyone figured out how to click on irc:// and open the correct server and channel ?
[12:49] <Stormx_> nope
[12:49] <sam_> i got to xchat opening and the ctcp info copy-paste
[12:49] <Stormx_> :( I WANT MY BREEZY!
[12:49] <DrZeus> propagandhi, I added the maxtaptime and maxtapmove to my xorg.conf
[12:49] <lisan> hi
[12:49] <lisan> i need atp backports mirros
[12:49] <lisan> i need atp backports mirrors
[12:49] <chavo> breezy is so last week man
[12:49] <propagandhi> DrZeus: and you restarted X?
[12:49] <searcher`> sam_: you want to open irc:// links from firefox?
[12:49] <searcher`> sam_: you can add custom protocol handlers
[12:49] <sam_> yes searcher
[12:49] <DrZeus> im going to that
[12:50] <sam_> i added the protocol handler and xchat now opens
[12:50] <sam_> although, it doesnt go to the correct server/channel
[12:50] <DrZeus> do I need to restart the system, or just logoff and start a session from shell?
[12:50] <Stormx_> Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[12:50] <searcher`> sam_: maybe it needs some creative %s action?
[12:50] <sam_> DrZeus hit Ctrl+ALT+BACKSPACE
[12:51] <searcher`> dunno how you can get the stuff behind the irc:// though
[12:51] <DrZeus> what will that do?
[12:51] <spine55> has anyone gotten 3d wroking with a radeon card in breezy?
[12:51] <sam_> DrZeus:-) try it
[12:51] <spine55> I'm having problems setting this up
[12:51] <DrZeus> restart X; unload the session?
[12:51] <sam_> hmm thanks searcher
[12:51] <SEJeff> DrZeus: It will restart X so that your changed settings take effect
[12:52] <DrZeus> ok, will try that
[12:52] <Stormx_> Have fun
[12:52] <Stormx_> 2 hours 57 minutes! No fair!
[12:52] <moerl> SPINE55 where art thou?
[12:52] <_SuBsTyL3_> propagandhi: no, it freezes ever, ctrl+c or not it freeze......but if i wait for one hour it started, but only the console...... :/
[12:52] <Stormx_> I want my breeezy!!!
[12:52] <spine55> moerl: fairly well thanks
[12:52] <foxgamer> Hi all. I have just come across a problem. I've been away for a couple of days and since I've been back, I haven't been able to load evolution. Can anyone help me in finding out the problem? Running from a terminal doesn't produce any information at all. Thanks.
[12:52] <sam_> Stromx: open the window :p
[12:53] <moerl> I said WHERE not "HOW" lol
[12:53] <spine55> moerl: just can't get this ati card working with 3d it was easy in hoary
[12:53] <Stormx_> sam_ :-\ crazy talk
[12:53] <sam_> heh
[12:53] <moerl> you tellin ME?
[12:53] <spine55> moerl: oh i'm in atlanta
[12:53] <lisan> oh man, i need the backports, are them down? or whatever?
[12:53] <Samu> hi people
[12:54] <spine55> moerl: haha I read your message how art thou?
[12:54] <Stormx_> !backports
[12:54] <moerl> I just meant it as a joke man.. to find you in here :)
[12:54] <TokenBad> I got 10 ubuntu disk yesterday but they was the 5.04 disk...and I had ordered more than that
[12:54] <Stormx_> ubotu: Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports. Also, Breezy does not have backports at the moment because there is no *later* distribution to backport from.
[12:54] <ubotu> Stormx_: what are you talking about?
[12:54] <sam_> whats the command to edit startup services on boot ?
[12:54] <spine55> moerl: why?
[12:54] <TokenBad> ok trying to set up vsftp...and set up a user account...when try to ftp in..get can't change to the dir i set up for them...and login fails
[12:54] <propagandhi> _SuBsTyL3_: well all I can tell you is that it isn't liking some part of your hardware, when you get that terminal you should check dmesg
[12:54] <Samu> I'm wondering if anyone has had problems getting gxine to display .srt subtitles?
[12:54] <moerl> spine55, why what?
[12:54] <heath> Can someone please tell a newbie how to get full access to files from NTFS? I copied to Linux volume but still have gksudo nautilus to access.
[12:54] <spine55> moerl: is it a joke to find me in here
[12:54] <Stormx_> heath: No can do
[12:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell heath about ntfs
[12:55] <hondje> heath: add umask=022 in the options in /etc/fstab for the partition
[12:55] <moerl> I was testing if I was in the right channel.. in the one you were in, so I wrote something to see if you were here.
[12:55] <SEJeff> There are unofficial backports for things like OO.o 2.0
[12:55] <Stormx_> heath: Read is ok, write, delete, edit, whatever, isn't
[12:55] <SEJeff> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/ ./
[12:55] <moerl> That's all, spine55  :)
[12:55] <moerl> Damn this is a PITA, I think I'm booting back to Windows.
[12:55] <heath> There's no way to copy to Limux drive or anthing? These files will forever be read only?
[12:55] <moerl> Ubuntu isn't exactly going smooth for me.
[12:55] <spine55> moerl: sorry i'm having major issues today
[12:55] <lisan> does beagle run well in hoary?
[12:55] <nalioth> heath: maybe not forever, but for now, yes
[12:55] <SEJeff> lisan: no
[12:55] <Stormx_> hondje: Don't you think thats a little experimental?
[12:56] <hondje> You can copy files that are read only
[12:56] <_SuBsTyL3_> propagandhi: how can i check "dmesg"? and what can i do now???
[12:56] <ColonelKernel> heath, chmod?
[12:56] <moerl> I kinda like how basic xchat looks though
[12:56] <Stormx_> Not on NTFS
[12:56] <Stormx_> NTFS is baaad
[12:56] <moerl> I wonder if I can do this in mIRC
[12:56] <sam_> heath: copy those files to a new folder...then format to fat
[12:56] <lisan> why can't i find beagle in backports no more?
[12:56] <Stormx_> formatting folders ? :-\
[12:56] <hondje> Stormx_: From what he said, I infer he's having permission issues accessing the mount, which can be solved by adding umask=022
[12:56] <hondje> as long as ro is in the options too, he won't bork the drive
[12:56] <moerl> that there's a vertical line on the left that makes written text start at the same point horizontally, with the names showing on the left
[12:57] <Stormx_> I had a nice script to mount stuff for hoary
[12:57] <Stormx_> But i think breezy does that automaticly?
[12:57] <hondje> hotplug does for removable media
[12:57] <Stormx_> yes, for removable.
[12:57] <heath> hondje: I am able to mount the drive but I have to do gksudo in order to access it.
[12:57] <Stormx_> I meant other partitions.
[12:57] <derchilligephil> i need help with fileaccess and user rights
[12:58] <derchilligephil> can anyone help me
[12:58] <mustard5> Stormx_, there is a script for auto mounting with breezy too
[12:58] <Stormx_> Go ahead
[12:58] <Stormx_> I thought so.
[12:58] <hondje> heath: okay, then I'm on target... in /etc/fstab, under the 'options' column, add umask=022 and make sure ro is an option too
[12:58] <hondje> add auto to the options, and it'll mount at boot time, or mount -a
[12:58] <derchilligephil> i want that 2 peoples can read and write into a directory
[12:58] <derchilligephil> and 3 peoples only read
[12:58] <nalioth> heath: do as hondje asked you to do. set your fstab up correctly
[12:58] <derchilligephil> and the other can do nothing
[12:59] <hondje> heath: then you can read and copy FROM the NTFS drive as a regular user w/out gksudo
[12:59] <Stormx_> 2 users?
[12:59] <derchilligephil> how can i manage this
[12:59] <code-> i need listen MP3 where i find codec for Ubuntu
[12:59] <derchilligephil> yeah
[12:59] <code-> i need listen MP3 where i find codec for Ubuntu?
[12:59] <Stormx_> xmms
[12:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell code- about mp3
[12:59] <heath> You'll all hate me for this but how do I add things to fstab? I have seen this around the net...
[12:59] <Stormx_> or just use xmms ^_^
[01:00] <hondje> heath: in a terminal, run 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab'
[01:00] <Stormx_> in /etc/fstab
[01:00] <code-> Stormx_ How to use plugin ?
[01:00] <Stormx_> edit it.
[01:00] <code-> !mp3
[01:00] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[01:00] <nalioth> heath: edit with a text editor /etc/fstab
[01:00] <derchilligephil> Stromx_
[01:00] <derchilligephil> do u have an idea
[01:00] <Stormx_> No :-\
[01:00] <code-> Stormx_ How to use plugin for xmms?
[01:00] <nalioth> code-: when we !tell ubotu to send you something, it's in a private message to you
[01:00] <derchilligephil> why is it that difficult
[01:00] <Stormx_> I havn't used ubuntu in about a month
[01:01] <derchilligephil> cant believe it
[01:01] <derchilligephil> k
[01:01] <derchilligephil> is here nobody who can help me with this prob
[01:01] <Stormx_> code-, I think it runs with mp3 support by default.
[01:01] <hondje> Not by default
[01:01] <Nothingman> can anyone tell me why I might be getting symbol errors when trying to run gdm on an iMac G3?
[01:01] <Stormx_> SOMEBODY HELP THIS PERSON WITH A PROBLEM ^^
[01:01] <hondje> or you mean xmms, that does I think ....
[01:01] <NightLord> Can someone help? I got a friend who needs to install breezy, but it doesn't recognise his network (both wire or wireless)
[01:01] <Stormx_> xmms does
[01:01] <nalioth> Stormx_: nothing in ubuntu be default has mp3 support
[01:01] <kingright> where can i get a mass list of programs foe ubuntu hoary?
[01:01] <Stormx_> xmms did in hoary...
[01:01] <Seveas> kingright, packages.ubuntu.com
[01:01] <crimsun> kingright: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:02] <kingright> ty
[01:02] <propagandhi> derchilligephil: why dont you just create a new group that has those permissions on the folder and add the users you want to access etc to that group
[01:02] <_SuBsTyL3_> propagandhi: how can i check "dmesg"? and what can i do now??? i was able to see the log before it freezes, and the last entry is: "FATAL: Error inserting thermal (/lib/...drivers/acpi/thermal.ko): No such device." WHAT DOES IT MEAN???
[01:02] <bimberi> propagandhi: he needs 2 groups though
[01:02] <derchilligephil> but i want to groups that have different rights
[01:02] <Stormx_> so create two new groups
[01:02] <NightLord> John, explain problem to the people
[01:02] <Stormx_> x.x
[01:02] <propagandhi> _SuBsTyL3_: in that case try booting without acpi
[01:02] <hondje> derchilligephil: You're going to hate the answer :)
[01:02] <derchilligephil> i have 2 groups
[01:02] <code-> im novice user
[01:03] <code-> Stormx_
[01:03] <Stormx_> mmm?
[01:03] <derchilligephil> what?
[01:03] <derchilligephil> why is it not possible
[01:03] <hondje> the standard permissions for linux are kinda lame, they don't let you get too fine
[01:03] <Stormx_> it is.
[01:03] <Stormx_> create two new groups with those permissions x.x
[01:03] <hondje> oh, it's possible, it's just a bitch doing stuff like setting up your ACLs and stuff
[01:03] <code-> where i find Apps for Ubuntu linux
[01:03] <code-> ?
[01:03] <hondje> only way around it is to make 10000 groups up
[01:03] <Stormx_> Adminsitration > Something.
[01:03] <derchilligephil> why is it that difficult
[01:03] <Stormx_> I forget its name
[01:03] <Stormx_> $_&
[01:04] <Stormx_> Remind me.
[01:04] <Stormx_> Frontend of apt-get
[01:04] <derchilligephil> why can i not set 2 groups for one file and set there permissions
[01:04] <_SuBsTyL3_> derchilligephil: setz den namen von der preson mit der du sprichst vornedran sonst werden sie nicht angesprochen ;))
[01:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell code- about synaptic
[01:04] <Stormx_> synaptic
[01:04] <Stormx_> thats the one.
[01:04] <derchilligephil> gibts da nen befehl fr
[01:04] <Stormx_> >.>
[01:04] <code-> !apps
[01:04] <ubotu> code-: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:04] <hondje> RBACL?
[01:04] <Stormx_> ASLLOLK
[01:04] <nalioth> code-: please dont !fish with the bot
[01:04] <Stormx_> !botsnack
[01:04] <ubotu> :)
[01:05] <hondje> derchilligephil: you can set up different groups and limit individual users like that, but it's ugly to do
[01:05] <Seveas> derchilligephil, ACL's on linux are a pain in the ass
[01:05] <TokenBad> ok trying to set up vsftp...and set up a user account...when try to ftp in..get can't change to the dir i set up for them...and login fails
[01:05] <JohnMallan> Well, installed ubuntu today, didnt recognise any of my onboard stuff(ethernet, sound etc) or my wireless PCI card D-Link it is(expected that though), then to get access to the net i installed xp on a second partition, and bye bye ubuntu loading up
[01:05] <derchilligephil> lol
[01:05] <derchilligephil> im new to linux
[01:05] <JohnMallan> oh and my motherboard is an Asus A8N-SLI Standard
[01:05] <derchilligephil> its the third day my server is running
[01:05] <Stormx_> JohnMallan: XP doesn't care if you have any non-M$ os's installed
[01:06] <hondje> then you're going to have to do a lot of reading before you hop into acl's :(
[01:06] <theine> JohnMallan, have you used any GNU/Linux distro before?
[01:06] <derchilligephil> in windows i can easy add groups and single users
[01:06] <NightLord> well, john, 1: Windows F*s up grub
[01:06] <derchilligephil> what is acl
[01:06] <Stormx_> so use windows then if all you wanna do is complain
[01:06] <derchilligephil> what does it
[01:06] <NightLord> and also, he's never used linux, i convinced him to try it
[01:06] <NightLord> ^_^
[01:07] <Stormx_> Access Control List, google it.
[01:07] <derchilligephil> yeah k
[01:07] <Stormx_> Well fair enough :)
[01:07] <hondje> and rbacl if you want to get crazy
[01:07] <Stormx_> I guess we all have to start somewhere
[01:07] <derchilligephil> is it hard to configure?
[01:07] <Stormx_> 2hr 42 minutes untill breexy downloads.
[01:07] <hondje> If you're a newbie to unix, yes.
[01:08] <derchilligephil> hehe
[01:08] <derchilligephil> yeehaaw
[01:08] <hondje> :-)
[01:08] <derchilligephil> lets get into this mess
[01:08] <hondje> see you next month :)
[01:08] <NightLord> john, to getback grub, download a live cd, then in the console su, then mount the ubuntu drive, and run grub-install
[01:08] <Stormx_> ^_^ indeed
[01:08] <derchilligephil> hehe bye
[01:08] <_SuBsTyL3_> propagandhi: i start with following boot-parameters: "ro nolapic acpi=off noapic quiet splash"....so i see it in the GRUB edit-menu......
[01:08] <XiCillin> I haven't used a different video card on ubuntu, how is it's card support? for nvidia and eVGA?
[01:08] <NightLord> I think thats it, not sure
[01:08] <hondje> nvidia support is quite nice
[01:08] <heath> hondje: Do I have to reboot after making the changes to fstab for the umask option?
[01:08] <XiCillin> i know nvidia is supported but i've heard problems
[01:08] <hondje> heath: nah, just remount the partition
[01:09] <Stormx_> XiCillin: Install and find out ^_^
[01:09] <nalioth> heath: you do not
[01:09] <heath> DOH! How (sheepishly asked)?
[01:09] <Stormx_> heath, reboot.
[01:09] <nalioth> heath: just umount the partition you modifited it's line in fstab and remount it
[01:09] <propagandhi> derchilligephil: are you sharing this server with windows users
[01:09] <propagandhi> derchilligephil: using samba?
[01:09] <XiCillin> stormx, or....drive get the card install it try it
[01:10] <derchilligephil> yeah and ftp
[01:10] <nalioth> Stormx_: please dont do that
[01:10] <Stormx_> do what?
[01:10] <propagandhi> derchilligephil: webmin might come in handy for you
[01:10] <derchilligephil> yeah i set it up yesterday
[01:10] <derchilligephil> is very slow :(
[01:10] <Stormx_> XiCillin ;-) Good point.
[01:10] <foxgamer> Anyone had/is having problems with evolution?
[01:10] <derchilligephil> dont know why
[01:10] <Stormx_> I'll read up on it.
[01:11] <nalioth> Stormx_: there is no reason to reboot a linux box unless you upgrade a kernel and want to use it
[01:11] <derchilligephil> but i will read about the acl on linux
[01:11] <derchilligephil> maybe i can get into it :)
[01:11] <propagandhi> derchilligephil: in any case it makes it easier to do some tasks that otherwise require a bit of knowledge
[01:11] <Stormx_> nalioth: So its a matter of pride?
[01:11] <nalioth> heath:  there is no reason to reboot a linux box unless you upgrade a kernel and want to use it
[01:11] <HrdwrBoB> nalioth: or if you've stuffed something and you don't know how to restart or fix it
[01:11] <derchilligephil> its no problem
[01:11] <nalioth> Stormx_: pride?
[01:11] <derchilligephil> i want to get into linux
[01:11] <derchilligephil> not just clicking
[01:11] <HrdwrBoB> nalioth: realistically it's often quicker and easier for some people
[01:11] <Stormx_> You don't *have* to not reboot
[01:11] <derchilligephil> i work mostly by console
[01:11] <derchilligephil> so i get behind all this stuff :)
[01:12] <nalioth> Stormx_: if you want to reboot every time the clock chimes, use windows
[01:12] <Stormx_> "Oh crap my box is overheating! But i'm running linux! IM TORN!"
[01:12] <derchilligephil> its very hard to understand because windows works very different
[01:12] <NightLord> Hey, could someon help JohnMallan please?
[01:12] <derchilligephil> and i am using windows for 13 years now :)
[01:12] <_SuBsTyL3_> propagandhi: i start with following boot-parameters: "ro nolapic acpi=off noapic quiet splash"....so i see it in the GRUB edit-menu...... what can i still do???????? i'm feeling so helpless cause of linux :/
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> derchilligephil,  its easy to understand.. you just are in the windows-mindset
[01:12] <NightLord> derchilligephil: You have seen the light: Hallelujah
[01:12] <derchilligephil> yeah and i have to open my mind for the new linux stuff
[01:12] <heath> For what it's worth, I'm so new to Linux it may be the smart thing to do, no?
[01:12] <Stormx_> They've made MSN 7.5 XP-Only, the bastards
[01:12] <derchilligephil> and there its good to have people like you! :)
[01:13] <Stormx_> Not that i'd care
[01:13] <hondje> heath: umount /dev/hd?? and then mount /dev/hd??
[01:13] <hondje> where ?? is the partition
[01:13] <dabaR> Anyone remember that fix for flash sound?
[01:13] <Stormx_> I've always had that problem
[01:13] <nalioth> heath: yes, it's probably easier to restart, but you dont have to, if you want to learn more about your system's capabilities
[01:13] <NightLord> derchilligephil, yeah, it took me a while to adjust too, but when you do, ubuntu rocks ^_^
[01:13] <Stormx_> Yeh what is the fix for flash sound?
[01:13] <brodel> where is the plugin directory on my firefox? I am trying to install flash.
[01:13] <Stormx_> ubuntu does indeed rock
[01:14] <Stormx_> infact
[01:14] <hondje> link libesd.so to the plugins dir I think
[01:14] <heath> Tried umount and it said device is busy.
[01:14] <Stormx_> i left some ubuntu cds outside the M$ UK Headquatres 6 months back
[01:14] <derchilligephil> hehe yeah maybe
[01:14] <derchilligephil> i cant compare it with other linux versions
[01:14] <Stormx_> Not many. They'd probably burn them and dance round them chanting.
[01:14] <hondje>  /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins IIRC
[01:15] <derchilligephil> but i bought me suse 7.1 and 9.1 and i never get a pc running with that shit :)
[01:15] <NightLord> well, lets say: Mandriva: sucks, Fedora: Mediocre, Debian: Ok, but hard
[01:15] <Stormx_> I got on OK With fedora
[01:15] <Stormx_> its much easier with Ubuntu, mind
[01:15] <hondje> I think distro wars are verbotten when nalioth is around :)
[01:15] <NightLord> Do did I, but its a bit iffy for me
[01:15] <Stormx_> If the distros keep competing MS will have no chance.
[01:15] <nalioth> distro wars in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> i though it was #Disrto-Wars
[01:16] <heath> Thank you all for your help. I greatly appreciate it! I'm sure IO'
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> :P
[01:16] <Pupeno> what xine video output moulde would work on an intel video board ?
[01:16] <heath> I'm sure I'll be back.
[01:16] <hondje> lol
[01:16] <NightLord> kinda regardless to me now anyway, i'm switching to OSX in a few months
[01:16] <brodel> thanks hondje
[01:16] <hondje> brodel: you're welcome
[01:16] <nalioth> NightLord: ubuntu runs on macintosh hardware nicely
[01:17] <foxgamer> Is there a way to change desktops without login off?
[01:17] <derchilligephil> they talking about kernel patching on some sites because of activating acl
[01:17] <derchilligephil> or to extend it
[01:17] <NightLord> I know it does, but why buy a mac when you're not gonna use the mac os?
[01:17] <derchilligephil> do u think it is neccesary
[01:17] <dabaR> hondje: nope:) didnt do it...
[01:18] <Pupeno> to play a dvd.
[01:18] <hondje> dabaR: Bummer :-) Got me beat, then ;-)
[01:18] <nalioth> NightLord: i must be insane, but i bought a dual g5 powermac and put ubuntu on it
[01:18] <JohnMallan> I installed windows, and grub is gone, how do I get it back
[01:18] <Stormx_> I WANT MY BREEZY :(
[01:18] <NightLord> ...and...what happened?
[01:18] <dabaR> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libesd.so -> /usr/lib/libesd.so right?
[01:18] <NightLord> Stormx_ What net speed you got?
[01:18] <Stormx_>  JohnMallan: Download a live CD
[01:18] <nalioth> JohnMallan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:19] <Stormx_> NightLord: Standard broadband, coming down at about 60KB/s
[01:19] <Gwildor> testing.....once or twice
[01:19] <NightLord> ah yes, sorry, i got 8Mbit, and not used to it, I can get breezy in about 10-20 mins
[01:19] <Stormx_> I can get it at about 10-20 minutes once it's downloaded, my computer works that slow.
[01:20] <NightLord> what specs?
[01:20] <Stormx_> "Yes, i want you to open explorer"
[01:20] <Stormx_> "No you piece of crap, not internet explorer"
[01:20] <Stormx_> Well its really badly unbalanced. I have a fast AMD with about 256 RAM
[01:21] <Stormx_> Nevermind. At least ubuntu loves me
[01:21] <NightLord> what happens when you run linux on a dual G5? I'll assume it gets a bit wobbly?
[01:21] <Stormx_> If I knew what you were talking about, I'd come back with a witty reply.
[01:21] <bimberi> derchilligephil: http://tlug.dnho.net/?q=node/171 says "Under Ubuntu the ACL extensions are compiled into the kernel by default (for ext3, reiserfs, ...)"
[01:22] <derchilligephil> yeah
[01:22] <derchilligephil> i got it
[01:22] <derchilligephil> :)
[01:22] <nalioth> NightLord: works great
[01:22] <Stormx_> :)
[01:22] <derchilligephil> i have just to install a package
[01:22] <derchilligephil> haha
[01:22] <derchilligephil> brb
[01:22] <spanglesontoast> anyone know much about bt voyager modems?
[01:22] <bimberi> derchilligephil: hehe, a good googler you are :)
[01:22] <spanglesontoast> anyone?
[01:22] <derchilligephil> for 5 or 6 years :)
[01:22] <surfdue_> hey
[01:23] <NightLord> I do
[01:23] <NightLord> why?
[01:23] <surfdue_> does anyone know anything about deb packages in here?
[01:23] <spanglesontoast> well my sisters bf ran off with router
[01:23] <surfdue_> ?
[01:23] <NightLord> surfdue_: what specifically?
[01:23] <spanglesontoast> and I'm back to ugly adsl modems
[01:23] <nalioth> surfdue_: just ask your question
[01:23] <surfdue_>  circe depends on libwxgtk2.6-python; however:
[01:23] <surfdue_>   Package libwxgtk2.6-python is not installed.
[01:23] <surfdue_>  circe depends on python; however:
[01:23] <NightLord> kick him in the nuts
[01:23] <surfdue_> how do i make debian install the packages or ask to isntall them
[01:23] <NightLord> try apt-get -f install
[01:23] <surfdue_> it doesnt even ask, and it just errors out?
[01:23] <spanglesontoast> it's a bt voyager 105 usb modem
[01:23] <surfdue_> no im making the package.
[01:23] <spanglesontoast> wondering if it will work with ubuntu
[01:23] <surfdue_> this isnt something im trying to isntall
[01:24] <surfdue_> it dosnt
[01:24] <NightLord> oh
[01:24] <surfdue_> YOU dont understand
[01:24] <surfdue_> :)
[01:24] <Stormx_> "spanglesontoast: well my sisters bf ran off with router"
[01:24] <nalioth> surfdue_: i'd install the python it wants
[01:24] <NightLord> spanglesontoast: ok, well, i don't think it works by default, but i think i know where there are drivers
[01:24] <Stormx_> "He left my for a router"
[01:24] <surfdue_> i know
[01:24] <surfdue_> users will insatll this deb
[01:24] <surfdue_> and they wont have python
[01:24] <dabaR> Stormx_: you can easily set up ubuntu to be a router.
[01:24] <surfdue_> i need to make it so it auto installs this
[01:25] <spanglesontoast> hah
[01:25] <nalioth> surfdue_: users will usually use apt-get to do it, ( i would hope)
[01:25] <spanglesontoast> cool so if it's just a package
[01:25] <surfdue_> Omgosh
[01:25] <foxgamer> spanglesontoast: I used a bt voyager 105 with ubuntu
[01:25] <surfdue_> :P
[01:25] <surfdue_> i understand
[01:25] <surfdue_> when you isntall a package
[01:25] <NightLord> erm... i doubt very much it is :P
[01:25] <spanglesontoast> did it work first time?
[01:25] <surfdue_> it installes the things it needs autp
[01:25] <surfdue_> i want it to do this
[01:25] <spanglesontoast> fox or did you need install something?
[01:26] <aeruder> surfdue_: dpkg doesn't grab deps or know anything about repositories, apt-get does all that work ;)
[01:26] <foxgamer> spanglesontoast: No. It picked it up straight away. No problems at all :)
[01:26] <Ropechoborra> [ Hi! ] 
[01:26] <spanglesontoast> ah
[01:26] <spanglesontoast> even with breezy?
[01:26] <Ropechoborra> Sorry for collors
[01:26] <Ropechoborra> Hi again
[01:26] <Ropechoborra> Got questions...
[01:26] <dabaR> there were none here, text only irc...
[01:26] <foxgamer> yup! I started with breezy before it came out and it was still fine
[01:27] <spanglesontoast> ah
[01:27] <spanglesontoast> kool
[01:27] <spanglesontoast> ty seeya in a moment then
[01:27] <spanglesontoast> :)
[01:27] <Stormx_> I want my breezy :(
[01:27] <Stormx_> 2hr22m
[01:27] <Stormx_> to go
[01:27] <surfdue_> nvm
[01:27] <surfdue_> my falt
[01:27] <Stormx_> your falt
[01:27] <josefo> HELLO
[01:28] <nalioth> surfdue_: set up a repository for it
[01:28] <Stormx_> HEY
[01:28] <surfdue_> k
[01:28] <josefo> WHO ARE U?
[01:28] <Stormx_> I AM STORMX
[01:28] <Pupeno> What do you recommend me to play a DVD?
[01:28] <Stormx_> VLC
[01:28] <Ropechoborra> Ive installed Ubuntu 5.04 in my pc... But i dont understand anything!! (new at linux) eg. Ive tried to change the screen resolution and the only option is 640x480 !, Other, ive tried to print something but i couldnt ! :( Anyone knows some sort of manual or something that could help me?
[01:29] <Stormx_> As for screen resolution
[01:29] <Stormx_> you may need to reconfigure X
[01:29] <Stormx_> Theres a wizard
[01:29] <Stormx_> but I forget how to access it.
[01:29] <Stormx_> !x
[01:29] <ubotu> Stormx_: Are you smoking crack?
[01:29] <Stormx_> Duh.
[01:29] <Ropechoborra> xD
[01:29] <Ropechoborra> From where... terminal ?
[01:29] <nalioth> guys, hold the caps key for later
[01:29] <ubuntuhawg> is it just me, or are the repositories being run on dialup lines?
[01:30] <Stormx_> No
[01:30] <bimberi> !xorg
[01:30] <ubotu> I guess xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:30] <SEJeff> ubuntuhawg: It is just you
[01:30] <Stormx_> They are filling buckets with floppy disks and passing them to ISPs
[01:30] <ubuntuhawg> i'll be darned :/
[01:30] <Ropechoborra> Is there an spanish chat room ?
[01:30] <bimberi> !es
[01:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:31] <ubuntuhawg> 14Kb a second is pretty slow
[01:31] <Ropechoborra> Thankx !!!
[01:31] <ubuntuhawg> jajaja
[01:31] <cold> I ordered ubuntu like 2 weeks ago, how long does it take to come if, you live in the u.s?
[01:31] <virgo> Hi, I have a question. Why don't newly installed programs appear on Gnome's application menu?
[01:31] <Stormx_> Kinda long
[01:31] <Stormx_> as Breezy has just been released
[01:32] <Stormx_> virgo: Some do, some don't.
[01:32] <NightLord> virgo: some do, some don't
[01:32] <NightLord> damnit
[01:32] <Stormx_> woh!
[01:32] <NightLord> also, try rebooting
[01:32] <dabaR> cold: it sayd on the site, I think 4-6 weeks.
[01:32] <NightLord> also: what program was it?
[01:32] <nalioth> cold: month or two
[01:32] <virgo> Okay. How would I add programs?
[01:32] <Stormx_> Synaptic
[01:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell virgo about synaptic
[01:32] <Stormx_> System > Adminstration > Synaptic
[01:32] <dabaR> virgo: what application did you install?
[01:32] <ubuntuhawg> i think he means add programs to menu
[01:32] <virgo> I mean how would I add programs to the list?
[01:32] <jrattner1> Whats a good book to learn C from, if you are a beginner?
[01:33] <virgo> DabaR, CastPodder
[01:33] <dabaR> virgo: usually they add themselves.
[01:33] <Stormx_> virgo: smeg, i think
[01:33] <nalioth> virgo: right click on your menu
[01:33] <Stormx_> !smeg
[01:33] <ubotu> smeg is, like, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Installed by default in Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy). For Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[01:33] <nalioth> Stormx_: get with the breezy, mister
[01:33] <ubuntuhawg> jrattner1, for C, it is best to do a lot of acid first, or just buy a copy of K&R
[01:33] <Fulbrite> Does anyone know whats wrong if my computer hangs up at "Grub is loading, please wait...."
[01:33] <foxgamer> jrattner1: I think 'python for beginners' would be a good start ;)
[01:33] <Fulbrite> no error message
[01:33] <jrattner1> Wellark, i have a good foundation in perl... which hopefully will help?
[01:34] <ubuntuhawg> i was a c programmer once, and i must have been pretty good, cuz everyone called me "mister null pointer"
[01:34] <Stormx_> Fulbrite: You broke it :|
[01:34] <virgo> Nalioth, right-clicking on the menu doesn't work.
[01:34] <Stormx_> use smeg
[01:34] <Fulbrite> Storm: Any suggestions on how to fix it? :)
[01:34] <virgo> Stormx, thank you.
[01:34] <nalioth> virgo: you running breezy or hoary?
[01:34] <corincole> sorry again nalioth lol
[01:34] <Stormx_> Fulbrite: Search me. Ask some bright people ^_^
[01:34] <virgo> Nalioth, I have no idea.
[01:34] <corincole> nalioth, are there any other ops here, or anyone u think could help with phpmyadmin? :P
[01:35] <spanglesontoast> didn't work
[01:35] <spanglesontoast> soo it doesn't work.......
[01:35] <Stormx_> what didn't work?
[01:36] <Stormx_> :-
[01:36] <Stormx_> \
[01:36] <nalioth> corincole: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[01:36] <spanglesontoast> the modem
[01:36] <foxgamer> spanglesontoast: It didn't? :( I'm using a voyager 2100 now, but I know if was working. Don't think there was anything else that I did.
[01:36] <spanglesontoast> unless it gave up
[01:36] <foxgamer> it*
[01:36] <spanglesontoast> when my old ethernet card tried to do a dhcp
[01:36] <virgo> Nalioth, I'm using hoary. Do I need to upgrade?
[01:37] <Stormx_> If you don't, some open source teenagers with acne burns down your house
[01:37] <nalioth> virgo: only if you want to. use smeg for editin your menus in hoary, you'll have to install it
[01:37] <virgo> Nailoth, okay. Is breezy still in testing?
[01:37] <utah_pro1e> can anyone tell me how to make a shell script on my desktop run (from a double-click) without popping up asking what I want to do with it?
[01:37] <Stormx_> No
[01:37] <Stormx_> Breexy has been released!
[01:37] <Stormx_> uh
[01:37] <Stormx_> Breezy
[01:37] <spanglesontoast> erm
[01:37] <virgo> Stormx, how would I go about upgrading?
[01:37] <Stormx_> Well
[01:38] <Stormx_> If you wanna wait 2 hours i'm about to find out myself
[01:38] <spanglesontoast> storm do you think when my ethernet card was looking for the dhcp server it gave up and ignored trying to hotplug for it
[01:38] <virgo> Utah, if I'm not mistaken, there's an option in Gnome's preferences on what it should do about scripts
[01:38] <Stormx_> But I'm gonnna sleep
[01:38] <Stormx_> so meh
[01:38] <Stormx_> :-\ Look
[01:38] <Stormx_> I am of no help
[01:38] <dabaR> Stormx_: please dont press enter that often, I can not read.
[01:38] <Stormx_> I'm not even using ubuntu
[01:38] <Stormx_> i
[01:38] <Stormx_> choose
[01:38] <virgo> lol ah, i see
[01:38] <Stormx_> not
[01:38] <bimberi> virgo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[01:38] <spanglesontoast> nor am I lol
[01:38] <Stormx_> to
[01:38] <virgo> Thank you
[01:39] <Stormx_> You're welcome
[01:39] <Stormx_> I feel my work here is done
[01:39] <Stormx_> Goodnight
[01:40] <michael__> how much time one can waste customizing panels/launchers/icons/etc... really bad!
[01:40] <Xaios> Hey how can I get ubuntu to see my HP printer?
[01:40] <Xaios> wait nm
[01:40] <Xaios> haha
[01:40] <michael__> my hp printer gets recognized automatically...
[01:40] <michael__> system/administration/printing/add printer
[01:40] <Xaios> I just found it
[01:40] <Xaios> I keep looking under system prefs
[01:41] <Xaios> Why was this split into prefs and administration?
[01:41] <foxgamer> spanglesontoast: I'm just looking to see if there are any specific settings that I'm using to get my modem working for you.
[01:41] <dabaR> cause some is prefs, some is admin.
[01:41] <HrdwrBoB> Xaios: admin is system wide
[01:41] <dabaR> Its intuitive
[01:41] <HrdwrBoB> prefs is per user
[01:41] <michael__> hm... why is 'system tools' under applications and not under 'system'? there's a logic... but it's not always very clear
[01:41] <Xaios> Ah thanks
[01:41] <dabaR> system tool applications.
[01:41] <Xaios> Well I was just asking for the logic behind it
[01:41] <michael__> i guess so :)
[01:42] <Xaios> and HrdwrBoB answered thanks :)
[01:43] <dabaR> michael__: its pretty cool actually, to learn about applications vs system software, and os vs utilities, and shell vs kernel
[01:44] <_jason> utah_pro1e:  has anyone answered your question yet
[01:44] <utah_pro1e> no, I got kicked off, so maybe they did, but i didn't see it
[01:44] <mebsd> can someone tell me what's utunbu better than debian
[01:44] <_jason> utah_pro1e:  well the way I do it is to create a launcher for it... right click on desktop -> create launcher
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> mebsd: it's running current software in a stable release
[01:45] <utah_pro1e> ah, good idea
[01:45] <dabaR> it is different, better for some things, like simple install, simple usage, and current software as above^
[01:45] <PMantis> My LDAP Auth broke after upgrade to 5.10... And existing client to the LDAP server also don't work, so must be slapd side. Pointers?
[01:45] <utah_pro1e> thanks
[01:45] <bimberi> mebsd: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> PMantis: check the logs
[01:46] <_jason> utah_pro1e:  no problem, I just happened to have the same problem a little while ago
[01:46] <slyjab> mplayer gives me this error ... can someone tell me what it means : New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer.subfont.ttf) and how do i fix it
[01:46] <dabaR> _jason: there is also a way to set so it does not ask you what to do with executable files, but I think your way is safer.
[01:46] <PMantis> HrdwrBoB, I've looked in messages, daemon. Nothing found. any others?
[01:46] <derek_> hey all - whats the package for php mysql support?
[01:47] <_jason> slyjab:  have you installed the package mplayer-fonts?
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> PMantis: restart slapd see what it says
[01:47] <Xaios> Yay printer test page works! :)
[01:47] <qiHEWSfi> any idea on how to do specific general configuration for the nvidia card with the 'better' ubuntu provided drivers..
[01:47] <PMantis> HrdwrBoB, Oh, ineresting: "Starting OpenLDAP: (db4.2_recover not found),  slapd"
[01:47] <slyjab> jason: nope maybe thats why ...d@$m dependencies
[01:48] <foxgamer> How do I go about finding out why a program has an error and then going on to fix it?
[01:48] <PMantis> HrdwrBoB, I should Google that...
[01:48] <bimberi> derek_: php5-mysql (or 4 or 3)
[01:48] <startxwhite> i quite like blueflops but can anyone recommend me a 2.6 floppy distro that has wireless support built in?. blueflops is 2xfloppies but i do not mind a four floppy one. ubuntu is no good for a pentium 100 with 32mbs of ram
[01:48] <nekostar> hey im messing with this configuration editor, but i cant seem to figure out which is the setting for keys repeating on the keyboard by holding them downnnnnnnnn
[01:49] <Falstius> does anyone know about getting chinese input to work in breezy?
[01:49] <HrdwrBoB> startxwhite: step 1) throw out the pentium, step 2) get a WRT54G
[01:49] <brodel> bah. flash keeps killing firefox :(
[01:49] <startxwhite> HrdwrBoB: NO money over here!
[01:50] <bytefoo_> it's $30 :/
[01:50] <qiHEWSfi> startxwhite auch that machine sucks. i had a p133 in '96 :(
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> you could probably sell the p100 for enough money to get a WRT
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> they are really cheap
[01:50] <startxwhite> the Pentium 100 is fast when running blueflops!
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> I mean, I'm not saying it can't be done
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> simple that it's a waste of power and a waste of your time
[01:51] <Pupeno> Is there a way to uninstall unused librarien on ubuntu ? (like emerge depclean of gentoo)
[01:51] <HrdwrBoB> and the p100 is huge and will eventually fail
[01:51] <HrdwrBoB> Pupeno: er... not really, no
[01:51] <HrdwrBoB> Pupeno: why do you want to do that?
[01:51] <XiCillin> does anyone crash on gnome when they try to doa new login?>
[01:51] <qiHEWSfi> startswhite how about trying the insert bootable cd set. it has wlan support and graphical gui plus some basic communication tools like putty
[01:51] <startxwhite> p100 is NOT huge!.
[01:51] <michael__> nekostar: slowkeys_delay .... is that what you're looking for?
[01:51] <Pupeno> HrdwrBoB: to keep my system clean and tidy.
[01:52] <_jason> I have a question concerning launchers in gnome.  When I right click on a launcher that is in a panel and select "properties" I am able to change different things than when I click on a launcher that is on my desktop.  Is there any way to access these options without dragging a launcher to a panel (ie "run in terminal")?  Thanks.
[01:52] <michael__> just press Ctr+F to look for a phrase like 'keyboard', and you'll find it
[01:52] <nekostar> yes michael__ i thinkk>_<
[01:52] <mebsd> anyone good with apache 2 server?
[01:52] <bimberi> nekostar: you can set that using System -> Prefs -> Keyboard
[01:52] <qiHEWSfi> startswhite it is intended to be used as rescue and network analysis disc. runs knoppix as base and updated last july
[01:52] <startxwhite> qiHEWSfi : the P100 has 32 mb ram. cannot put any more nor i want to spend the money
[01:53] <startxwhite> i do not have
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> Pupeno: your system is clean and tidy
[01:53] <nekostar> O.O
[01:53] <Pupeno> nevermind.
[01:53] <qiHEWSfi> startxwhite the insert is a standalone bootable cd. it doesn't add, it is the os
[01:53] <bimberi> Pupeno: deborphan
[01:54] <qiHEWSfi> starts'xwhte it is free and only needs a cdrom drive
[01:54] <LinuxMonkey> question: What do you guys suggest I install to burn cd/dvd's
[01:54] <nekostar> heh
[01:54] <nekostar> it seems i dont have either setting around
[01:55] <nekostar> o well, i'll just learn to type better i guess.
[01:55] <Fulbrite> Can someone help me with a mounting issue?
[01:55] <bimberi> LinuxMonkey: i use nautilus (the file manager) for data and isos
[01:56] <LinuxMonkey> eh! you serious bimberi ...lol i knew it was full featured but didnt know it could burn cd's/dvd's
[01:56] <dabaR> sure does
[01:56] <bimberi> linuxboy: Go -> CD/DVD creator
[01:56] <dabaR> just put in a blank even
[01:56] <bimberi> LinuxMonkey:  Go -> CD/DVD creator (sry linuxboy)
[01:57] <cius> good evening
[01:57] <Fulbrite> When I try mounting /dev/hda1 (root directory) I do sudo -i > mount /dev/hda1 and it says "/dev/hda1 not found in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[01:57] <cius> I'm having some trouble with synaptic, is there anything going on with repo names being changed right now?
[01:57] <DrZeus> hi all.  How can I ask my miniPCI wlan card's MAC address?
[01:57] <bimberi> LinuxMonkey: right-click on ISO, select Write to CD
[01:57] <dabaR> why the heck is my sound in breezy doing that if I ruun xine at the same time as xmms the xmms sounds is controlled by the xine?
[01:58] <qiHEWSfi> dabar common libraries
[01:58] <understorm> Hi... Good evening... Who can help me... Having trouble in instalation of Kubuntu
[01:58] <dabaR> what am I going to do to stop it?
[01:58] <dabaR> understorm: be specific
[01:59] <LinuxMonkey> sweet thanx bimberi ..do you know it it finalizes the cd automatically or do i need to do anything else, cause it got to work in winblows for my friends pc
[01:59] <cius> anyone get errors when you start synaptic lately?
[01:59] <understorm> can't install network
[01:59] <dabaR> more specific, what is the network composed of?
[01:59] <michael__> no problems with synaptic here
[02:00] <cius> I'm getting this error in particular Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:00] <dabaR> cius: be specific, what kind of errors, and taht...
[02:00] <cius> and a bunch more
[02:00] <cius> don't wanna spam the chat with them
[02:00] <robotgeek> cius: use the pastebin
[02:00] <dabaR> cius: remove the us. from the sources.list file
[02:00] <understorm> dabaR = 1. Can't configure the network in KDE...
[02:00] <LinuxMonkey> bimberi, ?
[02:00] <rempresent> word
[02:01] <dabaR> understorm: what network, is it cable broadband, dsl, dial up, router, which?
[02:01] <cius> robotgeek, not sure what pastebin is actually, <---newb
[02:01] <cius> dabar, did they change the repos or something?
[02:01] <understorm> dabaR = dsl
[02:01] <robotgeek> !tell cius about pastebin
[02:01] <dabaR> cius: they have issues often.
[02:01] <startxwhite> qiHEWSfi: you can not run ubuntu on 32 megs let alone on a p100!!!
[02:01] <dabaR> understorm: type in sudo pppoeconf in a terminal, and follow the prompts. that is if its only a modem, if its a router too, tell me.
[02:02] <rempresent> does anyone know how i would go about installing winamp equalizer plugins
[02:02] <morale> startxwhite, just run slackware or some minimal distro.
[02:02] <dabaR> startxwhite: you could, but not gnome that well.
[02:02] <cius> I haven't messed with my sources.list since I installed breezy, so it should all be default, except uncommenting the universe repos...
[02:02] <dabaR> cius: remove the us. .
[02:02] <dabaR> hehe
[02:02] <understorm> when i type in sudo pppoeconf KDE don't recognize the passwd stored
[02:02] <cius> dabar, ok, thanks
[02:03] <cius> robotbeek, thanks for the info on pastebin
[02:03] <PMantis> HrdwrBoB, it seems that my the slapd package needed something else, and should eb added to its dependancy list: db4.2-util
[02:03] <cius> I'll check that out
[02:03] <dabaR> understorm: kde has nothing to do with a terminal. do you have one user on the pc?
[02:03] <understorm> yes
[02:03] <madsen> "Unhandled Exception: DBus.DBusException: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-BANDwGOVrN: Connection refused" <- Now, why would dbus do that?
[02:03] <dabaR> can you sudo ls, and use your password.
[02:03] <PMantis> HrdwrBoB, But, it's not working yet... perhaps I should just take the asy route and reboot the thing
[02:03] <startxwhite> morale,dabR: slackware needs 48mb as the very very minimum  and debian sarge needs 64megs
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> PMantis: heh, that may or may not work, but realistically, it's very easy to do and costs you nothing :)
[02:04] <jzaval> has anyone been able to install nvidia drivers with a geforce 2 chipset in breezy?
[02:04] <understorm> ok... but after this, KDE don't recognize the passwd for Admin...
[02:04] <PMantis> HrdwrBoB, True.
[02:04] <dabaR> understorm: so you type in your password, and it gets rejected?
[02:04] <apokryphos> understorm: are you using the kubuntu packages?
[02:04] <understorm> YES... this is the problem...
[02:05] <understorm> yes...
[02:05] <dabaR> well, that is a problem, yes. but nothing to do with teh network...
[02:05] <apokryphos> understorm: hoary/breezy?
[02:05] <PMantis> HrdwrBoB, BTW, I have a full backup of the server before I upgraded, accessible in the filesystem of another server... if needed
[02:05] <apokryphos> understorm: alt+f2 -> kdesu kate... typing your password there. Does it get rejected?
[02:05] <morale> startxwhite, no it doesn't.. those are just recommendations.
[02:06] <understorm> pls... I'm newbie with Linux like... I'm a old user of Windows based...
[02:06] <cius> okay, now its still giving me errors about archive.ubuntu.com repos...
[02:06] <understorm> and don't understand what are going here...
[02:06] <dabaR> thats why we are here...
[02:06] <dabaR> to tell you
[02:06] <understorm> apokryphos... yes
[02:06] <dabaR> understorm: you need to reboot into recovery mode, and sudo adduser understorm admin <enter> and then reboot again, and you will be able to sudo. then you can sudo pppoeconf.
[02:06] <dabaR> provided understorm is your user's name
[02:07] <understorm> dabaR... thanxs for your attention...
[02:07] <apokryphos> understorm: it definitely gets rejected when you put that thing above I said? I find it hard to believe.
[02:07] <JPorter> hello all
[02:07] <dabaR> understorm: welcome, its nothing...
[02:07] <startxwhite> morale: do you own a pentium 100? have you tried to run the ACTUAL distros on that box?
[02:07] <dabaR> apokryphos: somehow he got remved from admin.,..
[02:07] <startxwhite> i do own a p100 and have tried!
[02:07] <JPorter> i'm having a major problem installing, does anyone have a moment to help out?
[02:08] <apokryphos> dabaR: and has no other account with sudo powers, or no root account setup?
[02:08] <understorm> ok dabaR... i'll try... Thank u... a hug from Brasil..
[02:08] <dabaR> apokryphos: well seems so...
[02:08] <jzaval> sure JPorter
[02:09] <dabaR> understorm: k, come back if you cant figure it out. ezcape gets you to choose recovery when booting
[02:09] <JPorter> i'm installing ubuntu on an x86 box
[02:09] <PMantis> HrdwrBoB, Interesting... Look a this: auth.log:Oct 23 20:04:16 localhost slapd[12763] : OTP unavailable because can't read/write key database /etc/opiekeys: No such file or directory
[02:09] <understorm> dabaR... ok... thanxs
[02:09] <JPorter> the pc is an athlon 1.2 on an asus a7v133 mobo.... the installer and the live cd both crash when trying to load the kernel
[02:10] <LinuxMonkey> JPorter, what kind of video card?
[02:11] <JPorter> matrox g400 (older card i pulled out because it's supported natively)
[02:11] <JPorter> i also have a geforce2 mx i can use, but i don't think the video is the problem
[02:11] <DavidLeeRoth> hey yall
[02:11] <JPorter> it gives me kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill the idle task
[02:11] <DavidLeeRoth> I have a question.... Is the Marvell 88E8036 supported in Ubuntu 5.10?
[02:12] <LinuxMonkey> nah at that point i dont think it is eighter.
[02:12] <madsen> ok, would someone do me a huge favour? I need someone with a working system to do a 'locate dbus' and paste the output on http://rafb.net/paste and give me the url. It'd be much appreciated!
[02:13] <madsen> ... or alternatively 'locate dbus > dbus_files.txt' and mail me the file...
[02:13] <JPorter> i'm wondering if i'm having an ide controller incompatibility or something... any ideas?
[02:13] <DavidLeeRoth> Is there a list of supported hardware?
[02:13] <Seveas> maddler, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3534
[02:13] <Seveas> madsen*
[02:13] <DavidLeeRoth> I need to know if the marvell 88E8036 will work for ubuntu
[02:13] <madsen> Seveas: Thanks a _bunch_. :)
[02:13] <morale> DavidLeeRoth: is that the onboard wireless chipset?
[02:14] <DavidLeeRoth> no
[02:14] <JPorter> the ide controller is integrated into the VIA chipset though... i know a lot of people run those boards, and i've seen folks post that they are using them with ubuntu
[02:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell DavidLeeRoth about hardware
[02:14] <DavidLeeRoth> its a NIC moreale
[02:14] <LinuxMonkey> yeah i hear ya
[02:14] <Seveas> DavidLeeRoth, you might need a
[02:14] <Agrajag> DavidLeeRoth: I'm using a Marvell onboard NIC
[02:14] <Seveas> 'modprobe skge'
[02:14] <LinuxMonkey> and it doesnt give much info on the panic
[02:14] <Agrajag> 0000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter (rev 13)
[02:14] <JPorter> nope
[02:14] <DavidLeeRoth> thats exactly what it is
[02:14] <DavidLeeRoth> an onboard nic
[02:14] <Agrajag> then yes, it'll work.
[02:15] <JPorter> it hangs right after vfs_caches_init and start_kernel
[02:15] <DavidLeeRoth> without recompilying the kernel with sk98lin?
[02:15] <g|patrick> well... could someone help me getting hugin working in breezy?
[02:15] <g|patrick> it complains that libwxgtk2.5.3 is missing
[02:15] <Agrajag> I have never heard of sk98lin
[02:15] <g|patrick> but i cant find this in the reposotories
[02:16] <bytefoo_>  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:16] <bytefoo_>  <- ???
[02:16] <bytefoo_> i have libstdc :/
[02:16] <LinuxMonkey> i have no ideas, except to waste time try a memory test with memtest86 untill someone responds to you..lol cause im drawing a blank as i had that before happen to me
[02:16] <crimsun> g|patrick: it doesn't exist in Breezy.
[02:16] <g|patrick> crimsun: could u recommend another panorama tool
[02:16] <JPorter> memtest86 doesn't find anything wrong, hmm
[02:16] <DavidLeeRoth> agrajag, your marvell yukon works right out of the box on ubuntu?
[02:16] <JPorter> thanks linuxmonkey
[02:16] <JPorter> lol
[02:16] <g|patrick> that composes images automatically?
[02:16] <Seveas> DavidLeeRoth, it's included in the default breezy kernel
[02:16] <DavidLeeRoth> YES!
[02:16] <DavidLeeRoth> awesoem
[02:16] <LinuxMonkey> JPorter,  how long u let memtest run?
[02:16] <DavidLeeRoth> i will brb
[02:16] <LinuxMonkey> lol
[02:16] <DavidLeeRoth> :-)
[02:16] <crimsun> g|patrick: you might try apt-cache search <foo>
[02:17] <JPorter> to 25% or so
[02:17] <DavidLeeRoth> i am a happy dude
[02:17] <Seveas> just not autodetected (hence the manual modprobe)
[02:17] <NotLarry> I just installed Ubuntu and I selected the incorrect screen resolution.  I can boot into recovery mode, how do I fix this?
[02:17] <PMantis> Any LDAP Authentication geeks around? Ubuntu 5.04 --> 5.10 dist-upgrade on server left LDAP Auth not working for multiple clients.
[02:17] <Agrajag> Seveas: not autodetected?
[02:17] <Seveas> Agrajag, I've seen some bugreports about that
[02:17] <morale> PMantis, check your /etc/nsswitch.conf
[02:17] <Agrajag> Seveas: I did nothing to set this up
[02:17] <JPorter> the pc133 that's in there is mixed, some standard and some high-density... maybe i'll pull a stick out and see what happens
[02:17] <g|patrick> crimsun: im a noob with this
[02:17] <Agrajag> It works perfectly, it worked fine in hoary too
[02:17] <Seveas> Agrajag, it's only for some Yukons
[02:17] <g|patrick> :(
[02:17] <Agrajag> oh ok
[02:18] <Seveas> not all types
[02:18] <LinuxMonkey> i got a stick of ram here that takes a couple of hours before it detects it that its bad, it sucks though cause it freezes when I try to install anything
[02:18] <JPorter> hmm
[02:18] <cius> is it wierd that my cron.daily is completely empty?
[02:18] <JPorter> i'll try pulling this ram and trying again, brb
[02:18] <crimsun> cius: the directory? Yes.
[02:18] <cius> oh wait, I thought that was a file
[02:19] <cius> that could be why  :-/
[02:19] <crimsun> the directory isn't empty, no.
[02:19] <qwerrttyy> hey. How do you double space these days in OO.org 2 since they mixed up all the controls?
[02:19] <cius> crimsun, okay I'm good
[02:20] <PMantis> morale, All looks good there to me, anyhing in particular?
[02:20] <michael__> qwerrttyy: format/paragraph/spacing
[02:20] <daaku> any ssh gurus? i'm on a box that can connect to A and B, and i need to forward a port such that B can send there and A can recieve it - any ideas?
[02:20] <g|patrick> btw... when will we see OOo2 final in the reposotories?
[02:20] <morale> PMantis, does it say passwd: ldap files and group: passwd files ?
[02:20] <morale> group: ldap files
[02:20] <morale> i mean
[02:20] <cius> crimsun would you happen to know if breezy runs an sound related cron jobs daily?
[02:20] <LinuxMonkey> is there an easy way to compress everything into 1 file so that i can move it to another partition and then format and restore the files?
[02:21] <morale> brb. tape rotations.
[02:21] <qwerrttyy> michael__, thanks
[02:21] <NotLarry> Is there a way to restart the ubuntu setup program without going through the entire install?
[02:21] <crimsun> cius: it doesn't.
[02:21] <rixth> Man, I've got a werid bug with rhythmbox. http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18376
[02:21] <cius> crimsun, okay, thanks.
[02:22] <JPorter> do you think the crash has anything to do with running a usb mouse and keyboard?  my ps2 ports are b0rk3d
[02:22] <g|patrick> nobody knows a working panoramatool
[02:22] <g|patrick> that works with linux?
[02:22] <g|patrick> come on :(
[02:22] <g|patrick> really need one
[02:22] <JPorter> whoa!
[02:22] <JPorter> it worked
[02:22] <JPorter> it was the ram
[02:23] <g|patrick> couldfind that library, crakrja1
[02:23] <g|patrick> crimsun:
[02:23] <madsen> g|patrick: hugin / autopano-sift / enblend (google for it)
[02:23] <LinuxMonkey> lmao
[02:23] <rixth> apt-get remove --purge rhythmbox << Shouldn't that remove ALL associated configuration files for rhythmbox?
[02:23] <g|patrick> hugin doesnt work madsen
[02:23] <JPorter> sweet
[02:23] <rain`> What is "getty"?
[02:23] <LinuxMonkey> so it was the ram JPorter
[02:23] <madsen> g|patrick: Together with autopano-sift you bet it does.
[02:23] <misguided> hey everyone
[02:23] <JPorter> obviously my mem controller doesn't like high density dimms
[02:23] <ssam> rixth, no
[02:24] <JPorter> good to know, lol
[02:24] <LinuxMonkey> lmao
[02:24] <ssam> rixth, not the ones in your home folder
[02:24] <rixth> radiodog, getty images is a massive collection of stock images?
[02:24] <madsen> g|patrick: I saw some tutorial for it once... Try searching for autopano-sift...
[02:24] <rixth> ssam, ah yes,  I see, thanks
[02:24] <g|patrick> autopano-sift seems to make use of hugin
[02:24] <rixth> erm, that was for you rain, not radiodog
[02:24] <JPorter> ohhhh.... sweet success
[02:24] <madsen> g|patrick: exactly...
[02:24] <JPorter> thanks guys
[02:24] <NotLarry> Did I miss the answer, is there a way back into the ubuntu setup program?
[02:24] <misguided> I'm having trouble reading cd-r media in ubuntu... burnt dvds work fine, but burnt cds don't read at all, and I'm totally confused
[02:24] <bam_> any way to import the menus from gnome to e17?
[02:24] <LinuxMonkey> np
[02:24] <g|patrick> but hugin doesnt work in breezy, madsen
[02:25] <g|patrick> because there is a libraryconflict
[02:25] <bam_> and will those apps run in e17?
[02:25] <Orborde> If I see this in the glxinfo output, that means that 3d rendering is go, right?: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20041207 AGP 1x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE TCL
[02:25] <bam_> without any extensive modifications
[02:25] <madsen> g|patrick: Oh, that "doesn't work". :-/ Well, then I don't really know. :(
[02:25] <g|patrick> so i need a tool thats similar to hugin, but makes no use of it, madsen
[02:25] <g|patrick> havent i mentioned it several times, THAT HUGIN WONT WORK IN BREEZY?
[02:25] <g|patrick> :(
[02:25] <ssam> rain`,  getty makes the text terminals i think
[02:26] <g|patrick> madsen: thx :)
[02:26] <g|patrick> at least a try :(
[02:26] <JPorter> g'bye all... will return if it kicks my butt again
[02:26] <JPorter> thanks
[02:26] <bam_> g|patrick, yelling wont get answers
[02:26] <madsen> g|patrick: Yeah, well, you might be able to compile it from source...
[02:26] <g|patrick> :P
[02:26] <Orborde> g|patrick, What is hugin?
[02:26] <g|patrick> a tool that makes panoramaimages
[02:26] <LinuxMonkey> wow i'm drawing a blank, whats the command to tar everything on a partition with file structure intact
[02:26] <warren1> if i have network-manager installed, can i take /etc/init.d/networking out of the startup?
[02:27] <g|patrick> really need something like that soon
[02:27] <qiHEWSfi> my glxconfig with nvidia 6600 gt shows unable to open display and i have enabled nvidia-glx-config
[02:27] <Orborde> Repeating...If I see this in the glxinfo output, that means that 3d rendering is go, right?: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20041207 AGP 1x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE TCL
[02:27] <madsen> LinuxMonkey: 'tar -cf <root dir>'
[02:28] <warren1> madsen: nope
[02:28] <g|patrick> well... could someone tell me a good collection of reposotories for breezy
[02:28] <warren1> tar -cf output.tar <root dir>
[02:28] <qiHEWSfi> linuxmonkey if you have an empty cdrom a reliable tool for doing partition backup would be the linux insert cd rescue disk. just burn the iso you get from sourceforge
[02:28] <corincole> seveas? u here?
[02:28] <madsen> warren1: Right
[02:28] <corincole> can someone please help me
[02:28] <corincole> ive got phpmyadmin working, but it wont let me log in, i think my config.inc.php file is wrong, but not sure why....
[02:28] <LinuxMonkey> yeah its just my filesystem its on ntfs and i need to make it on XFS
[02:29] <qiHEWSfi> corinxole yeah sure we can
[02:29] <corincole> :)
[02:29] <qiHEWSfi> corincole shoot
[02:29] <corincole> im nowell, basically, it wont let me log on, i dont know what to do to fix it...
[02:29] <r0bby> any idea as to why apt isn't recreating config files?
[02:29] <warren1> what's the command to take add/remove /etc/init.d/ stuff from the system startup?
[02:30] <warren1> -take
[02:30] <g|patrick> come on... nobody who has any idea how to get hugin working :(
[02:30] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i'm trying to install something (audio drivers), and when i do ./configure blah blah blah, I get this error message "checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:30] <sexcopter8000m> " any ideas?
[02:30] <corincole> anyone?
[02:30] <qiHEWSfi> corincole well since linux is high-security, i think you need the root account login enabled, and configure a root account password. only problem is you cant go to account config without a administrative(you) account. tough luck
[02:30] <nalioth> corincole: "anyone?" is not a productive question
[02:30] <corincole> i have an admin acocunt
[02:30] <corincole> i'll set up root now
[02:30] <qiHEWSfi> corincole reinstall ubuntu or use a admin account
[02:31] <r0bby> so
[02:31] <r0bby> uhm
[02:31] <r0bby> yeh
[02:31] <corincole> nalioth, i had already asked the question, easier than copying and pasting lol
[02:31] <titaniumone> jesus i just typed "chown www-data:www-data /" by mistake, as root. is there any way to repair the damage i just did? i stopped it a few seconds after it began and i realized what i had typed
[02:31] <titaniumone> chown -R, that is
[02:31] <nalioth> corincole: wait 5 minutes and c/p
[02:31] <corincole> c/p?
[02:31] <nalioth> corincole: copy/paste
[02:31] <corincole> ok
[02:31] <corincole> does anyone know if seveas is here?
[02:32] <apokryphos> why?
[02:32] <PMantis> morale, My laptop locked up... did you reply ? nsswitch loks ok
[02:32] <r0bby> should apt recreate the skeleton?
[02:32] <LinuxMonkey> anyone know of any linux dvd backup solutions? i.e. take from a DVD9 to a DVD5? or even just something like DVDDECrYPTOr for windows?
[02:32] <r0bby> or no?
[02:32] <ReadingGuy> I've got a printer problem
[02:32] <bluefoxicy> Anyone working on micro-ubuntu here?
[02:33] <virgo> I'm getting this error when I try to start audacity. http://samuella.sitesled.com/temp/img/audacity.jpg
[02:33] <understorm> dabaR: Hi... the command sudo adduser understorm admin return: "understorm does'n exist"
[02:33] <understorm> same problem
[02:33] <ReadingGuy> Have home network with mix of Umbuntu & Windows
[02:33] <warren1> sexcopter8000m: there's some package you gotta install thta has gcc/make/etc etc... but i forget what it's called
[02:33] <warren1> i need to do it as well actually (new install here)
[02:33] <g|patrick> nalioth: could u recommend usefull reposotories
[02:33] <warren1> it's like sysutils or something (but that's not it)
[02:33] <g|patrick> beside the defualt one of breezy?
[02:34] <Fulbrite> Is there a real difference in linux-386, linux-image-386 and linux-image-2.6.9 etc kernels?
[02:34] <nalioth> g|patrick: just the standard ones
[02:34] <warren1> that has a bunch of dependencies for gcc and others
[02:34] <sexcopter8000m> ok, can anyone help warren1 and I? here's paste of exactly what I got: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3535
[02:34] <g|patrick> nalioth: well, when will there be major updates for the binaries in the standard ones?
[02:35] <PMantis> LDAP Auth was working before dist-upgrade to 5.10, now an ldapsearch returns: additional info: SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database
[02:35] <warren1> sexcopter8000m: if you do "apt-get gcc" that'll probably work
[02:35] <nalioth> g|patrick: only security updates. patience, backports are inevitable
[02:35] <sexcopter8000m> well, i installed gcc through synaptic... and that didn't work
[02:35] <warren1> but there's a better package that includes gcc as well as a few others
[02:35] <LinuxMonkey> anyone know of any tools like dvddecyptor but for linux?
[02:35] <corincole> does anyone know if seveas is here?
[02:36] <Wa0> LinuxMonkey: have you tried http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12698 , http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=27528 , http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21455
[02:36] <g|patrick> OOo2 final will be part of a backport?
[02:36] <apokryphos> corincole: is there a reason for why you keep saying that?
[02:36] <g|patrick> btw. what are backports exactly?
[02:36] <bimberi> warren1, sexcopter8000m: build-essential is the package
[02:36] <corincole> i want to talk to him, and am wondering when he might come back
[02:36] <LinuxMonkey> wag im not running kde
[02:36] <Wa0> I have not tried them but they seem to work with some people
[02:36] <warren1> bimberi: that's right! thanks
[02:36] <apokryphos> corincole: if you want to speak to someone in the channel just ping (say, "hey, you here?") and then leave it. No need to repeat.
[02:36] <Wa0> LinuxMonkey: there are some for gnome also
[02:37] <sexcopter8000m> thanks bimberi
[02:37] <bimberi> warren1, sexcopter8000m: yw :)
[02:37] <LinuxMonkey> ill search some more
[02:37] <Cornwall52> does anyone here know if there is a driver availible for the intel GMA950 at this point?
[02:38] <Wa0> LinuxMonkey: as a last resort you could always install dvdshrink with wine
[02:38] <LinuxMonkey> yeah but i still need to rip the vob files and all that
[02:39] <LinuxMonkey> thats mostly what i need to do, is get the VIDEO_TS on my pc
[02:39] <warren1> how do you add/remove an /etc/init.d/* script to the system startup sequence?? there's a command, but i can't remember what it is
[02:39] <robotgeek> warren1: update-rc.d
[02:39] <bimberi> g|patrick: I've seen posts saying "deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/ ./" for OOo2 (not tried it personally though)
[02:39] <warren1> that's it! thakns
[02:39] <qwail> I cant get sound to work
[02:40] <Wa0> what is the ubuntu channel for amd64??
[02:40] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hey, I just did a cfdisk. How do I make sure that my mbr is still the grub?
[02:40] <robotgeek> Wa0: ask here
[02:40] <titanium> can anyone tell me what /var/lib/ should be chowned as? (just ls -l and tell me what the group and owner are)
[02:40] <qwail> anyone got a suggestion on how to get sound to work in ubuntu
[02:40] <Crys_Ubu_PC> qwail, There are many sound issues.
[02:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell qwail about sound
[02:41] <bimberi> titanium: drwxr-xr-x  43 root root 4096 2005-10-14 13:35 /var/lib
[02:41] <robotgeek> titanium:root
[02:41] <titanium> ok how about var/lib/php4
[02:41] <titanium> i fucked my ownership, everything is owned by root
[02:41] <g|patrick> bimberi: well.. would be nice if i could to this automatically by synaptic
[02:41] <robotgeek> apokryphos: what's happening, :)
[02:42] <g|patrick> have u recommendation regarding additional reposotories
[02:42] <Wa0> ok everytime I install ubuntu on my new amd64 the system hangs on one of the copy, both kubuntu and ubuntu fail.
[02:42] <bimberi> g|patrick: that's exactly what you can do if you add that deb line to your sources.list :)
[02:42] <g|patrick> ya, but tahts only for OOo2
[02:42] <Casanova> i installed linux-tree-2.6.11 now where are the source files installed :-/
[02:42] <g|patrick> i'am talking about general updates
[02:42] <robotgeek> Casanova: /usr/src/
[02:42] <titanium> anyone? ownership of /var/lib/php4 ?
[02:42] <kevogod> The "Add Application" function does not require gksudo?
[02:42] <Casanova> robotgeek, its not htere
[02:42] <Casanova> *there
[02:43] <corincole> qiHEWSfi, i did what you said, created root password and enable root login, still said "error #1045 - Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)"
[02:43] <corincole> ???
[02:43] <robotgeek> Casanova: do a dpkg -L <kernel-package-name> | less
[02:43] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hey, whoever programmed ubotu, thanks. He's better than the wiki search.
[02:43] <crimsun> kevogod: it does for me.
[02:43] <Wa0> I have also been trying to install gentoo and it fails also, the people overthere said that it is a memory problem. I just built the system 3 days ago so I doubt that there is a problem in the hardware unless it is a manufacture defect!!
[02:43] <bimberi> g|patrick: ah, i'm with you now.  It might be added to the official backports repository but i don't know
[02:44] <ColonelKernel> Wa0, or you didnt set it up correctly.
[02:44] <Wa0> boots knoppix (x86) fine and everything works. I just want to get a distro on there to try it out.
[02:44] <g|patrick> weired... i've 2.6.12.16 installled, but it wont be found by grub
[02:44] <Casanova> robotgeek, ooops ok its there.. the tar.gz file i mean and the patches is a directory.. how do i apply that patch?
[02:44] <rob^> there are ubuntu test packages for ooo2 available
[02:44] <g|patrick> crap, i should consider making a new clean install
[02:44] <ColonelKernel> Wa0, if you have a gig of ram on it - try loading knoppix toram and see if it works
[02:44] <Casanova> i usually bzcat the patch and pipe it onto patch -p1
[02:44] <robotgeek> Casanova: no idea
[02:44] <Wa0> ColonelKernel:This is not the first time I put a system together I have done it countless times
[02:45] <Wa0> ColonelKernel:do you recall what is the boot command for that. I have knoppix 3.8 CD version , the one I booted was knoppix 4.0.2 boot version.
[02:45] <ColonelKernel> Wa0, nonetheless - you probably made a mistake somewhere if gentoo wont build and youre having errors with ubuntu as well
[02:45] <corincole> qiHEWSfi?
[02:45] <Wa0> btw. I ahve 2 GB of ram
[02:45] <robotgeek> g|patrick: try doing a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-<version>'
[02:45] <Wa0> have*
[02:45] <ColonelKernel> Wa0, toram is the option
[02:45] <Wa0> thanks, I will try it now
[02:46] <g|patrick> robotgeek: no... it doesnt appear in the grub menu at boot
[02:46] <Casanova> does someone know how to apply the ubuntu patch that comes with linux-tree?
[02:46] <ColonelKernel> you might want to run memtest w extended options on it
[02:46] <Parisi> Hello
[02:46] <g|patrick> its installed if synaptic speaks the truth
[02:46] <rob^> ooo2 test packages: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[02:46] <g|patrick> but grub doesnt add strings for it
[02:46] <robotgeek> g|patrick: yeah, that might fix the issue
[02:47] <r0bby> I'm having problems
[02:47] <r0bby> :(
[02:47] <robotgeek> r0bby: please be specific
[02:47] <r0bby> will apt and dpkg regenerate configuration files?
[02:47] <r0bby> that'd be my problem
[02:47] <g|patrick> robotgeek: and how can i check now, if that has solved my issues?
[02:48] <bimberi> ubotu ooo2 is <reply> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[02:48] <ubotu> okay, bimberi
[02:48] <bimberi> thanks rob^
[02:48] <rob^> np
[02:48] <solidgroove> where can I get the kernel source for the kernel that comes with 5.10
[02:48] <robotgeek> g|patrick: /etc/grub/menu.lst , tho i use ppc , i am not too sure
[02:48] <r0bby> why do i get the feeling that my question was a stupid one?
[02:49] <g|patrick> robotgeek: nope... nothing has changed
[02:49] <g|patrick> no entries for that
[02:49] <robotgeek> r0bby: yeah, will do. further, basic config files are usually availble in /usr/share/doc/<name>/examples/
[02:49] <Thunderguy> I have a really bad problem with ubuntu that no matter what I do, I just can't troubleshoot it, I cold booted the system after a crash, ran e2fsck ( on unmounted partition ) then gnome didn't load I reinstalled gnome completely and erased all the configs before installing it, and it still didn't load, so I installed kubuntu-desktop, and KDE doesn't even load.
[02:49] <g|patrick> crap
[02:49] <g|patrick> breezy is annoying :(
[02:49] <robotgeek> g|patrick: why can't u just ad d it in?
[02:49] <Wa0> ColonelKernel:What extended options?
[02:49] <Bluemat> How do you access a shared folder from one machine to another via nfs? browser?
[02:49] <g|patrick> coze i dont know what to write there
[02:49] <bimberi> solidgroove: install the "linux-tree" package
[02:49] <sexcopter8000m> hmmm, does anyone know about a sound issue where you can't get sound through headphones/spdif?
[02:50] <bimberi> ooh, just missed
[02:50] <g|patrick> and i wont kill the grub menu
[02:50] <robotgeek> g|patrick: make a backup copy, and copy the previous version and make changes appropriate for the new one
[02:50] <ColonelKernel> extended tests I meant Wa0
[02:51] <Bluemat> How do you access a shared folder from one machine to another via nfs? browser?
[02:51] <Parisi> So how do you all like Breezy?
[02:51] <robotgeek> Thunderguy: can u try with a direct startx ?
[02:51] <r0bby> I've used breezy for awhile now
[02:51] <Xenguy> Parisi: I like breezy very much :-)
[02:51] <kevogod> I like Breezy more than I like life.
[02:51] <robotgeek> Parisi: luv it, been lovin it for past 3 months :)
[02:51] <Parisi> Pretty cool.
[02:51] <g|patrick> robotgeek: no.. i wont try this and kill my system :(
[02:51] <madsen> Anybody around with a little knowledge of the initial setup procedures of dbus?
[02:51] <robotgeek> g|patrick: hmm, okay
[02:51] <g|patrick> i'd like to see, that grub finds taht itself
[02:52] <g|patrick> but update-grub doesnt find that kernel
[02:52] <puff> Evening.  My laptop goes into suspend automatically when I shut the lid.  Is thre any wa t get it to not go into suspend?
[02:52] <warreng> is it hard to get kde running? would i be better off with using kubuntu?
[02:52] <kevogod> warreng, Just install kubuntu-desktop
[02:52] <Parisi> robotgeek, You play mpegs, divx and things of that nature?
[02:52] <Thunderguy> robotgeek: startx just loads a vanilla X display without any desktop, just the black-white background with X shapes cursor.
[02:52] <Xenguy> puff: check the BIOS
[02:52] <robotgeek> puff: ppc?
[02:52] <robotgeek> Parisi: yeah
[02:52] <kevogod> warreng, From Synaptic
[02:52] <Bluemat> cmon guys, help me out..How do you access a shared folder from one machine to another via nfs?
[02:52] <Xenguy> puff: you should be able to turn it off there
[02:52] <warreng> kevogod: how do you switch between kde/gnome?
[02:52] <kevogod> warreng, And then you will have yourself Kubuntu
[02:52] <Parisi> robotgeek,  How do you get those to work easily?
[02:53] <kevogod> warreng, You change sessions from the Login screen
[02:53] <warreng> that's hot
[02:53] <robotgeek> Parisi: installed totem-xine, vlc and they just work?
[02:53] <zblach> quick question. i ripped a movie of old video data. works in my dvd player, but can i use it in vlc?
[02:53] <understorm> Hi... need help in configuration of network
[02:53] <robotgeek> Thunderguy: can u install fluxbox and try again?
[02:53] <madsen> zblach: Have you tried?
[02:53] <Parisi> robotgeek,  Cool, just looking for ideas on players etc/.
[02:53] <zblach> madsen, yup
[02:53] <g|patrick> well... nobody can help me :(
[02:54] <zblach> g|patrick, whats up?
[02:54] <madsen> g|patrick: With what?
[02:54] <Thunderguy> Hey, cool that is my favorite desktop, sure I will.
[02:54] <warreng> i know kde + gnome are vastly different... but what's like a one sentence description of what's different and when to use which?
[02:54] <g|patrick> zblach: breezy and grub, kopete, hugin and else minor issues
[02:54] <g|patrick> "minor"
[02:54] <puff> robotgeek: ppc?
[02:54] <robotgeek> puff: okay, then you are not on power pc :)
[02:54] <dutchguy> anyone tried the Server release of Ubuntu? If so, how do you like it?
[02:54] <g|patrick> too many small problems :(
[02:54] <zblach> warreng, gnome is faster while kde is cooler
[02:55] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know what new features Dapper drake will have?
[02:55] <warreng> does kde use GTK?
[02:55] <kevogod> warreng, It uses QT
[02:55] <madsen> warreng: KDE: Nice and flashy, Gnome: nicer and smoother. (In my opinion of course...)
[02:55] <g|patrick> warreng: afaik qt
[02:55] <puff> robotgeek: Ah, no, thinkpad.
[02:55] <Thunderguy> robotgeek: same with fluxbox installed I still get a vanilla X.
[02:55] <Bluemat> warreng, I think gnome is classier..
[02:55] <g|patrick> ok... gn8 guys
[02:55] <zblach> but i'm still trying to make my gnome look cool
[02:55] <g|patrick> i'll ask tomorrow again
[02:55] <robotgeek> Thunderguy: then check your /var/log/Xorg.log
[02:55] <robotgeek> zblach: chk out www.guistyles.com
[02:55] <Bluemat> cmon guys, help me out..How do you access a shared folder from one machine to another via nfs?
[02:55] <g|patrick> maybe there will be someone who has new ideas :(
[02:55] <g|patrick> gn8
[02:55] <Xenguy> warreng: it's a matter of taste - try them both and decide for yourself :-)
[02:56] <understorm> Hi... someone can help me in configuration of Kubuntu network?
[02:56] <Xenguy> warreng: and if you've got older hardware, try xfce4 ;-)
[02:56] <warreng> i do a lot of web development (ruby, php, etc) is either kde or gnome "better" for a development environment
[02:56] <madsen> Thunderguy: What are you trying to do? startx uses .xinitrx|.xsession
[02:56] <g|patrick> hf and bye
[02:56] <zblach> warreng, from personal exp. i prefer gnome, but others like kde.
[02:56] <dutchguy> Bluemat: have you tried using SAMBA?
[02:56] <Wa0> ColonelKernel:knoppix boots fine with the toram
[02:56] <madsen> warreng: I do a lot of ruby and php too... I use gnome, but it doesn't really matter... I prefer working in vim in a terminal. ;)
[02:56] <Bluemat> dutchguy, Its ubuntu to ubuntu, using NFS not samba
[02:57] <zblach> warreng, they both work, but i use gnome for my java
[02:57] <Xenguy> warreng: the desktop shouldn't have any effect on your development tools AFAIK
[02:57] <zblach> any place i can find some nice wallpapers and skins for my gnome?
[02:57] <madsen> Xenguy: Unless you prefer e.g. monodevelop, then it blends in quite nicely with Gnome. ;)
[02:57] <Kyral> gnome-look.org
[02:57] <Wa0> ColonelKernel:I also was running memtest for the past 2 hours and I did not see any errors!
[02:57] <Parisi> zblach,  yes, gnome themes.
[02:58] <kjdis> Booting a new kernel copied config from a fresh Kubuntu and went from there, stops and the characters on screen become messed up so I can't read the e
[02:58] <zblach> Parisi, whereat?
[02:58] <madsen> zblach: Install gnome-art and you got it all at your fingertips.
[02:58] <Xenguy> madsen: ahh
[02:58] <dutchguy> bluemat: try this link  http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/
[02:58] <madsen> Xenguy: ;)
[02:58] <robotgeek> zblach: also www.gnome-look.org
[02:58] <Parisi> zblach,  http://art.gnome.org/
[02:58] <kjdis> error when it stops, but it's right away, anyone have a suggestion as to what I screwed up?  What category, video drivers perhaps?
[02:58] <Xenguy> madsen: but basically any app can be run by either gnome or kde, yes?
[02:58] <madsen> Xenguy: Yeah :)
[02:58] <Thunderguy> madsen: Trying to get any GUI to work.
[02:59] <understorm> hi there... need help in Kubuntu... How to configure the network?
[02:59] <misguided> hi?
[02:59] <madsen> zblach: the gnome-art package is a little program that lets you install stuff from art.gnome.org - nice and easy. :)
[02:59] <Blissex> Xenguy: app can be run by either gnome or kde it is more like ''under'' than by
[02:59] <madsen> Thunderguy: What's the problem? Gnome hanging?
[02:59] <sector10> i think i like kde
[02:59] <Thunderguy> robotgeek: Is it a good sign to have about 40-50 messages with video card in the Xorg.0.log?
[02:59] <robotgeek> Thunderguy: look for lines with E or at the end
[02:59] <Xenguy> madsen: BTW I noticed you comment about .xinitrc/.xsession -- are those files functionally equivalent, or are they different in some ways?
[03:00] <Thunderguy> madsen: Gnome hanging, then I installed KDE and KDE hangs, and I installed fluxbox and it hangs to.
[03:00] <Xenguy> Blissex: aye
[03:00] <madsen> Xenguy: I _think_ they're the same... I've gotten by with a symlink from .xinitrc to .xsession for years now. :)
[03:01] <robotgeek> Thunderguy: look for the file ~/xsession-errors
[03:01] <madsen> Thunderguy: Try letting gnome hang for some 10 minutes... Then it might continue... (I have the same issue and it bugs the crap out of me... I think something is waiting for something that doesn't happen and times out after ~10 minutes.)
[03:01] <Xenguy> madsen: nod.  I was just curious, since somewhere along the line I heard that .xsession was supposed to be the 'proper' file to use (don't know if that is definitely true tho)
[03:01] <nalioth> howdy Amaranth
[03:01] <Amaranth> hey
[03:01] <Parisi> Does anyone happen to know where i can find some cheap decent rambus?
[03:02] <nalioth> Parisi: www.pricewatch.com in the US
[03:02] <madsen> Xenguy: I think it depends on what login manager you use... Can't even remember which one xdm uses...
[03:02] <Amaranth> ick, rambus
[03:02] <Parisi> For rambus? Ah.
[03:02] <Thunderguy> madsen: That sounds like a pretty aweful setup
[03:03] <phrizer> I just replaced my old balled ps/2 mouse, with a USB optical mouse running through a ps/2 adapter, its uncontrollably  jumping all over the place, do i need to change something in xorg.conf or somewhere?
[03:03] <madsen> Thunderguy: Indeed, but try it - at least you'll know if gnome is b0rked or not.
[03:03] <madsen> Thunderguy: I'll let you know if I ever figure out what causes it... But right now I'm more concerned that my dbus is messed up. :-/
[03:04] <madsen> ... and I'm hungry... Now you all know. :-p
[03:04] <madsen> Brb!
[03:04] <Thunderguy> robotgeek: approximitly 60 pages full of .xsession-errors
[03:04] <robotgeek> okay, delete that file and try again, you'll know what's wrong exactly
[03:06] <Thunderguy> robotgeek: about 1/2 a page, summarized though: Failed to open transport listener for ISC.
[03:07] <Thunderguy> and pts and /dev/pts/0
[03:07] <robotgeek> Thunderguy: weird
[03:08] <ekim1120> new to linux just got UBUNTU love the feel but can i mount me NTFS and pull over files
[03:08] <Thunderguy> robotgeek: I figured out what caused it now, but it is still weird, I had a network outage during boot one time it lagged on "configuring network" so I C-c and it skipped that for that one time.
[03:08] <bimberi> ekim1120: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:08] <Parisi> ekim1120, Absolutly!
[03:08] <madsen> Thunderguy: Interesting... I got the same error in my .xsession-errors
[03:08] <EviLBorF> Ok.  I have an existing linux filesystem on a hard drive and have a system booted with the ubuntu live cd.  I need to know how to mount the hard drive so I can edit my grub.conf file on it.  Any help would be appreciated.
[03:08] <Thunderguy> robotgeek: That has to be what messed up the configuration, but that shouldn't have happened, seems more like a bug.
[03:08] <MFen> ekim1120: you need captive ntfs
[03:08] <Parisi> ekim1120, http://ubuntuguide.org
[03:08] <kevogod> just read bimberi's link
[03:08] <Thunderguy> madsen: ah really?
[03:09] <kevogod> !ubuntuguide
[03:09] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:09] <Parisi> !faq
[03:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[03:09] <madsen> Thunderguy: Yeah, and something "Cannot create /dev/X"...
[03:09] <robotgeek> Thunderguy: that shudnt be an issue, really...i do it all the time :)
[03:09] <nalioth> Parisi: please dont 'blindly' recommend ubuntuguide
[03:10] <noteforself> hi. i'm thinking about getting a ucb flash drive/card to back up my data.  my question: do they play nicely with ubuntu 5.10?
[03:10] <Parisi> Nalio, Sorry it has helped me quite a bit.
[03:10] <MFen> noteforself: just used one 20 minutes ago. (you meant usb, right?)
[03:10] <noteforself> sorry, usb/
[03:10] <MFen> noteforself: in fact, as soon as i plugged it in, i got an icon on the desktop
[03:11] <noteforself> ah! that's what i wanted to hear.
[03:11] <ekim1120> MFEN is that a program
[03:11] <MFen> ekim1120: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[03:11] <noteforself> i kind of gave up trying to figure out how to burn cds and instead will get a usb flash drive instead.
[03:11] <MFen> i *thought* there would be an ubuntu package by now, but apparently there isn't
[03:11] <ekim1120> thank you
[03:11] <phrizer> I just replaced my old balled ps/2 mouse, with a generic USB optical mouse running through a ps/2 adapter, its uncontrollably  jumping all over the place, do i need to change something in xorg.conf or somewhere?
[03:12] <EviLBorF> Ok.  I have an existing linux filesystem on a hard drive and have a system booted with the ubuntu live cd.  I need to know how to mount the hard drive so I can edit my grub.conf file on it.  Any help would be appreciated.
[03:12] <robotgeek> Thunderguy: try this, 'rm -rf ~/.ICEauthority' and try again. That's what i usually do
[03:12] <Thunderguy> ah ok.
[03:12] <nalioth> phrizer: wont hurt to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and see if it detects it
[03:12] <MFen> ekim1120: here's an even better page for you. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10175
[03:12] <ekim1120> MFEN sorry which do I want
[03:12] <phrizer> okay
[03:13] <MFen> ekim1120: well, the second one tells you how to use the first one on ubuntu
[03:13] <nalioth> EviLBorF: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:13] <Thunderguy> robotgeek: yeah, that didn't work with me.
[03:13] <EviLBorF> thank you nalioth
[03:13] <ekim1120> again thank you
[03:13] <qiHEWSfi> gimp seems buggy
[03:13] <MFen> ekim1120: yw. humanity to others.
[03:13] <robotgeek> Thunderguy: sorry man, that is the most extreme i usua have to go
[03:14] <gnomefreak> are all debian based distros "apt-get upgrade" to update distro?
[03:14] <Thunderguy> Alright, well thanks anyway.
[03:14] <agabus> how do i setup 3d acceleration on my laptop? im not sure which video card it has.
[03:14] <jonny> I have been trying to update 4.10 to 5.10 via breezy but the x server does not allow me to use gnome after updating
[03:15] <guilherme> hello guys, i'm having problems in installing jre plugin to firefox, someone had same problem?
[03:16] <rob^> !java
[03:16] <ubotu> it has been said that java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[03:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell guilherme about javadeb
[03:16] <httpdss> i've been trying to configure mythtv (server and client) ... and im having problems authenticating in mysql when running backend .. is there any concrete howto for breezy ??
[03:16] <jonny> I have been trying to update frm 4.10 to 5.10 via breezy but the x server does not allow me to use gnome
[03:16] <rob^> javadeb?
[03:16] <httpdss> or some solution to this prob
[03:16] <logikal> Anyone here good with x-chat?
[03:16] <gnomefreak> jonny: try fresh install
[03:16] <Kyral> jonny you need to reconfigure X with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:16] <agabus> logikal - wat do u need to know about xchat?
[03:16] <gnomefreak> logikal, what is your question?
[03:17] <jonny> how?
[03:17] <Kyral> jumping from 4.10 to 5.10 is a HUGE leap
[03:17] <logikal> I want to change my text color, the text i type
[03:17] <Kyral> jonny, with that command
[03:17] <logikal> It is dark gray, and I used a black background, I want to make it a teal etc.
[03:17] <jonny> ok
[03:17] <gnomefreak> logikal,  go to settings than preffereances
[03:18] <gnomefreak> prefferences*
[03:18] <logikal> where at in here?
[03:18] <Maikeru> hey
[03:18] <logikal> I looked in colors..
[03:18] <Maikeru> when I am doing a cp command, you know how you can do * to select everything?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> logikal,  look under text
[03:18] <Maikeru> how do you exempt certain files?
[03:18] <Maikeru> instead of including
[03:18] <Amaranth> Maikeru: list every file you want seperately
[03:19] <Maikeru> too many files
[03:19] <Amaranth> Maikeru: you'd probably be better off using nautilus :)
[03:19] <roxville> hello :)
[03:19] <guilherme> thanks guys, i'll try
[03:19] <agabus> how can i find out what video card im running in my laptop?
[03:19] <jonny> heres what i get when i try that command:"Package `xserver-xorg' is not installed and no info is available.
[03:19] <jonny> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[03:19] <jonny> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[03:19] <jonny> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is not installed
[03:19] <jonny> "
[03:20] <gnomefreak> logikal, #xchat might beable to help more on xchat issues i dont use colors outside of default
[03:20] <thechitowncubs> Is there any way i can schedule my ubuntu computer to shutdown at a certain time every night?
[03:20] <PMantis> dist-upgrade to Breezy broke my LDAP auth. ldapsearch gives: "additional info: SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database". Can anyone help?
[03:20] <intelikey> Maikeru also you can use -i  for interactive
[03:21] <gnomefreak> PMantis,  it has been known to break distros i always refer ppl to install fresh
[03:21] <roxville> i have a question: does anybody here know a person with the nick "reliver" ? has he caused probs in here?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> always have a current cd than :) incase break happens
[03:21] <PMantis> gnomefreak, What's know to break distros?
[03:21] <solidgroove> i cant find the kernel sources for 5.10 and I want to compile a generic kernel but I get errors on sound/core/memalloc.o
[03:21] <solidgroove> maybe its gcc?
[03:21] <intelikey> Maikeru wild card the files you want.       if you can wild card the ones you dont want then you can also wild card the ones you do.
[03:21] <gnomefreak> PMantis,  the distro upgrade from hoary to breezy
[03:21] <jonny> When I type that command in I get the following:"Package `xserver-xorg' is not installed and no info is available.
[03:21] <jonny> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[03:21] <jonny> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[03:21] <jonny> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is not installed
[03:21] <jonny> "
[03:22] <titanium> awesome i trashed my install
[03:22] <robotgeek> jonny: don't paste in here
[03:22] <gnomefreak> jonny: use pastebin to paste
[03:22] <jonny> ok sorry
[03:22] <titanium> typing "chown -R root:root /" as root was absolutely brilliant
[03:22] <PMantis> gnomefreak, Uhm, well.. then what's the point of having the option? heh
[03:22] <sambagirl> what is pasterbin?
[03:22] <madsen> titanium: I bet it was...
[03:22] <crimsun> titanium: don't drink and type.
[03:22] <jonny> so... what do I do about that?
[03:23] <titanium> backing up for reinstall now. sigh
[03:23] <robotgeek> jonny: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg?
[03:23] <gnomefreak> PMantis,  if you read where u learned how to do it it says "might break your installation"
[03:23] <titanium> should i install hoary or install breezy
[03:23] <intelikey> titanium yeah if you don't want any user accounts it is.....  :)
[03:23] <crimsun> titanium: breezy
[03:23] <jonny> umm... ok
[03:23] <thechitowncubs> Is there any way i can schedule my ubuntu computer to shutdown at a certain time every night?
[03:23] <gnomefreak> PMantis, if you got it from ubuntuguide.org   ubuntuguide is out of date and not much help
[03:23] <titanium> no problems with breezy and stuff like apache, php, mysql, etc?
[03:24] <crimsun> thechitowncubs: sure, via a cron job
[03:24] <thechitowncubs> any easy way to do that?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> titanium, i would go with breezy
[03:24] <crimsun> thechitowncubs: man 5 crontab
[03:24] <PMantis> gnomefreak, Well... I have a complete rsync backup of the server... Do you know much about LDAP? Can I copy something to help?
[03:25] <titanium> at least i'm getting 800kB/s
[03:25] <gnomefreak> PMantis,  no i dont know much about ldap but im sure someone in here does
[03:25] <mebsd> ldap is a pain to config
[03:25] <PMantis> gnomefreak, I should've upgraded one package at a time
[03:25] <qiHEWSfi> gimp is so cool. who needs photoshop anyway =)
[03:26] <mebsd> i need
[03:26] <jonny> When I type that in I get this:"E: couldn't find package xserver-xorg?"
[03:26] <blackthorne> is it possible to save my gdesklets confs? Each time i start a display i always lose my preferences.
[03:26] <PMantis> mebsd, Heh, I know.. I was so excited when I got it working.
[03:26] <qiHEWSfi> when it comes to web/graphics/art design gimp is much more powerful
[03:26] <kevogod> qiHEWSfi, Yea, in your dreams.
[03:26] <titanium> so basically i trashed my ubuntu server which was running apache2, mysql, php, ruby, and some other stuff. aside from my webserver dir and my apache2 and proftpd conf files, is there anything i ought to remember to back up
[03:26] <qiHEWSfi> in terms of originality of the pics even when doing it with filters
[03:26] <robertj> tit: you can likely restore it
[03:26] <mebsd> qiHEWSfi: you joking right
[03:27] <gnomefreak> i want something i can type in and it draws for me :(
[03:27] <madsen> titanium: Perhaps some conf-files...
[03:27] <kevogod> mebsd, I don't think so.
[03:27] <lasindi> Is anyone here using a Belkin F5D7000 PCI wireless card by chance? Does anyone know whether or not it works in Ubuntu?
[03:27] <titanium> robertj: ?
[03:27] <Thunderguy> robotgeek: I don't know how or why it happened, but it just started working.
[03:27] <qiHEWSfi> mebsd the basic filters. i haven't really used photoshop with extended plugins but the basic ones are better in gimp
[03:27] <robertj> titanium: I accidently nuked /usr/bin a few years ago
[03:27] <jonny> When I type that in I get this:"E:couldn't find package xserver-xorg"
[03:27] <robotgeek> Thunderguy: well, ubuntu works in mysterious ways
[03:27] <madsen> Thunderguy: Weird... Have you tried after a reboot?
[03:27] <robertj> and I wrote a script to go through and extract all the files from debs
[03:27] <mebsd> qiHEWSfi: so how can you comment on something that you haven't really used
[03:28] <qiHEWSfi> mebsd have done lots of design with the basic ones in photoshop
[03:28] <robertj> so you should be able to go through and get all the permissions of those files and rechown/chmod them
[03:28] <Thunderguy> robotgeek: but what is more wierd is I had 0 opengl support, opengl crashed my system, in KDE I have full video acceleration and full opengl support, I'm very perplexed.
[03:28] <titanium> robertj: i typed "chmod -R root:root /" as root. i think it'd be easier to reformat than to attempt to repair it
[03:28] <alan_> hello
[03:28] <thechitowncubs> Is it possible to have a computer turn on at a specified time?
[03:28] <robotgeek> Thunderguy: very nice :)_
[03:28] <qiHEWSfi> mebsd how many legal plugins do you own?
[03:28] <Thunderguy> madsen: I don't think I want to reboot now, things actually work.
[03:28] <mebsd> photoshop's plugins are way more powerful than any software i used
[03:28] <qwerrttyy> Has anyone noticed that AIM windows in taskbar blink unendingly sometimes? Has someone bugged it?
[03:28] <intelikey> thechitowncubs yes but that is a bios call
[03:28] <alan_> i cant get my sound working in breezy, can anyone help me? i have alsa and arts installed
[03:28] <mebsd> gimp is nothing compare to photoshop, they are not on the same level
[03:28] <Thunderguy> madsen: Sadly I will be forced to, hurricane will shut me down by tonight for sure.
[03:29] <alan_> i have an older soundblaster card
[03:29] <thechitowncubs> intelikey, how would that work
[03:29] <madsen> Thunderguy: Hehe, if I log out now and back in, then it'll work fine... If I reboot, I'll have to wait the usual 10 minutes. :-/
[03:29] <robertj> mebsd: it depends on who you are, for most web-things it's just as good
[03:29] <g56k> hello
[03:29] <g56k> i am really like kubuntu
[03:29] <madsen> Thunderguy: I hope yours work better than mine then. :)
[03:29] <madsen> g56k: You start with a K and you're polished and user-friendly? :-p
[03:30] <jonny> When I type this in:"sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg?" I get this:"E: couldn't find package xserver-xorg?"
[03:30] <Thunderguy> madsen: I did do one thing, in my hosts file I had 127.0.0.1 localhost home, I put in 2 seperate lines 127.0.0.1 localhost, then 127.0.0.1 home, I don't think that would do anything.. hrm, but it worked after I did that.
[03:30] <intelikey> thechitowncubs some bios's have a wakeup setting that allow you to specify that they power on at a set time.    not all bios' have that feature though
[03:30] <earthen> after updating to breezy i can no longer read my mounted ntfs partitions, and i can't change the permissions from root with root
[03:30] <kevogod> Photoshop is much easier to use.
[03:30] <crimsun> alan_: pci sound chipset?
[03:30] <Thunderguy> madsen: I guess my faith has healed the machine o.O I was never religious but I am now.
[03:30] <prg> question about wpa_supplicant:  both wired and wireless worked immediately after install of breezy with no security on the router.  I installed wpa_supplicant exactly as specified on several websites, etc... wpa_supplicant cannot authenticate to the router.  Pass key is correct.  Any ideas?
[03:30] <madsen> Thunderguy: Hmm.. I do get a "hostname lookup failure for 'localhost'" in the .xsession-errors...
[03:30] <thechitowncubs> intelikey, so if my bios doesn't support that then there is no other way?
[03:30] <alan_> is there a arts-con config program/?] 
[03:30] <intelikey> thechitowncubs correct
[03:30] <jonny> what is pastebin?
[03:30] <madsen> Thunderguy: Bow down for the awesome power of ... uhm ... /etc/hosts...
[03:31] <alan_> crimsun yes
[03:31] <gnomefreak> jonny type /topic
[03:31] <Thunderguy> madsen: Yeah, I shall memorize the hosts config file now.
[03:31] <crimsun> alan_: cat /proc/asound/modules
[03:31] <madsen> Thunderguy: Hehe
[03:31] <thechitowncubs> intelikey, thanks
[03:31] <gnomefreak> its a place to paste your errors so you dont flood the room
[03:31] <intelikey> :)
[03:31] <thechitowncubs> you are the people I like to talk to in this channel :)
[03:31] <unamaus> l
[03:32] <unamaus> hi
[03:32] <thechitowncubs> hi
[03:32] <gnomefreak> thechitowncubs, this cannel is the only helpful one out of all the distros ive used
[03:32] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: We try. :)
[03:33] <alan_> bash: cd: /asound: No such file or directory
[03:33] <unamaus> is there something i can use to limit and practically force firefox to view only a specific page and everything else
[03:33] <gnomefreak> Amaranth, everyother channel seems like they have this rule dont help ppl you dont know
[03:33] <unamaus> err i mean everything else within the site
[03:33] <robertj> unamaus: you could deny all outbound traffic to any host besides the one the webpage is on
[03:33] <gnomefreak> libranet channel isnt too bad just never anyone there
[03:34] <jonny> when I type this in:"sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg?" I get this:"E: couldn't find package xserver-xorg?"
[03:34] <jonny> any help?
[03:34] <prg> Sorry to just ask my question in here:  Can anyone help me with wpa_supplicant?
[03:34] <unamaus> yes robertj
[03:34] <unamaus> umm how?
[03:34] <crimsun> prg: shoot
[03:34] <robotgeek> jonny: what are you using? hoary/breezy/warty?
[03:34] <gnomefreak> jonny you have xorg you cant install something you have
[03:34] <alan_> crimsun says no asound
[03:34] <jonny> warty
[03:34] <madsen> gnomefreak: It wouldn't give that error then...
[03:34] <gnomefreak> people still use warty?
[03:35] <robotgeek> jonny: warty uses xerver-xfree86
[03:35] <crimsun> alan_: you don't have a /proc/asound/modules?
[03:35] <samue1> hello, is it possible to create a link in my wifes home dir to point to my music folder in my home dir so she can acess it?
[03:35] <robertj> unamaus: firestarter
[03:35] <intelikey> sudo apt-get update     AND/OR    check your sources
[03:35] <unamaus> firestarter?
[03:35] <prg> crimsun:  in short: all wired/wireless connectivity worked right after install (but no WPA turned on).  I installed the wpa_supplicant and set it up according to a website I found and wpa_supplicant will not authenticate..not sure why.
[03:35] <crimsun> alan_: not /asound. /proc/asound/modules
[03:35] <jonny> yes...that is the only CD i could get my hands on :(
[03:35] <crimsun> alan_: also, not cd. cat.
[03:35] <jllawrence_> samuel. what operating system is your wife's computer?
[03:35] <ekim1120> mfen worked great but 1 more ? how do i play MP3
[03:35] <prg> crimsun: I triple checked that the wpa key is correct btw
[03:35] <gnomefreak> ok ty madsen
[03:35] <robertj> johny: you need to upgrade
[03:36] <shgs> Hi guys!
[03:36] <robertj> johny: warty will be unsupported in 6 months
[03:36] <samue1> jllawrence its the same just a different user account
[03:36] <crimsun> prg: do you see the AP in iwlist scan?
[03:36] <shgs> Does anybody use ubuntu with a serial mouse?
[03:36] <Elsan> Any way I can myself those stupid root powers once and for all with my normal account!?
[03:36] <guilherme> guys, i use hoary, when the i login (administrator), i can access terminal like root using "su - typing the root pwd" but i can access the 'terminal like root' when the login pwd works... So, it's not cool to have. I can be "su" using the administrator pwd
[03:36] <robertj> johny: go to shipit and request that they send you a breezy cd
[03:36] <Zealot87> how do i change the burn speed??
[03:36] <unamaus> ah and this works with ubuntu breezy?
[03:36] <Zealot87> in nautlis
[03:36] <intelikey> shgs i have, yes.
[03:36] <crimsun> unamaus: Ubuntu in general.
[03:36] <shgs> I followed every single howto on the net on the subject to no avail.
[03:36] <jonny> so...when I attemt to upgrade from 4.10 to 5.10 VIA breezy, the xserver does not let me run gnome...any help?
[03:36] <gnomefreak> jonny get more than 1
[03:37] <shgs> intelikey, What is the big secret?
[03:37] <unamaus> thank you so much guys
[03:37] <jonny> more than 1 what?
[03:37] <guilherme> It's suposed to be like that?
[03:37] <prg> crimsun: yep.. mine and several others.. and the script is picking up the ssid correctly.  If I manually type in the wpa_supplicant command I get a bunch of errors
[03:37] <intelikey> shgs there wasn't one......
[03:37] <shgs> intelikey, I've put the device set to ttyS0 and protocol to Microsoft.
[03:37] <gnomefreak> breezy cd from ship it
[03:37] <unamaus> oh umm one other thing
[03:37] <qiHEWSfi> i am building an os set which includes ubuntu live+install kubuntu live+install edubuntu live+install insert analysis disc damn small linux 1.5 and dos 7.10 .. any ideas on the last one? something other than debian.. ???
[03:37] <crimsun> prg: ah, what errors? Paste onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:37] <ekim1120> using live CD I save all my Setting in knoppix on a USB drive can I do the same with UBUNTU
[03:37] <prg> crimsun:  Is it safe to assume the ipw driver is up to date since it worked without WPA?
[03:37] <shgs> intelikey, The mouse cursor appears but it does not move.
[03:37] <intelikey> shgs try ttyS1
[03:37] <qiHEWSfi> burning these on verbatim ultra azo color-labeled discs
[03:37] <prg> crimsun: okay hang on a sec....
[03:37] <crimsun> prg: it's the latest stable, yes. 1.0.6
[03:37] <Elsan> qiHEWSfi: BSD?
[03:38] <shgs> intelikey, When I try ttyS1, the mouse cursor does not show at all.
[03:38] <Elsan> Any way I can myself those stupid root powers once and for all with my normal account!?
[03:38] <Zealot87> how do i change burn speed in nautilus burner
[03:38] <unamaus> is there a way to make ubuntu only open firefox on the desktop but hide and prevent everything else from appearing?
[03:38] <crimsun> Elsan: missing predicate?
[03:38] <intelikey> shgs od
[03:38] <qiHEWSfi> Elsan the sourceforge page was inactive. it has different site for current iso?
[03:38] <Zealot87> neermind
[03:38] <bimberi> guilherme: sudo uses the users own password.  You don't have to set a user password.  sudo is only set up for the user created during install, after that you have to grant it explicitly
[03:38] <Elsan> qiHEWSfi: I don't know, never used it, it's another Unix clone, that's all I know
[03:39] <bimberi> guilherme: s/user password/root password/
[03:39] <Zealot87> can someone tell me how i can get my WFAT drive inabled and writable without using that stupid winmac fgstab script
[03:39] <qiHEWSfi> Elsan gonna check out bsd
[03:39] <jonny> what should I get more than one of, gnomefreak?
[03:39] <shgs> intelikey, I've tried about everything on it. Downloaded GPM and compiled it but the mouse does not work there either.
[03:39] <CuriousCat> hello again! have a problem with my eth0 and ndiswrapper (again)
[03:39] <alan_> crimsun no asound in /proc
[03:39] <Elsan> crimsun: I'm fed up with entering the password and my fglrx driver will only run as root since I reinstalled
[03:39] <shgs> intelikey, The fact is that just yesterday, I had another distribution on it and the mouse was OK.
[03:39] <gnomefreak> jonny someone told you to go to ubuntu shipit and order breezy cd i said get more than 1
[03:39] <crimsun> alan_: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[03:39] <krister> hi, can anyone tell me the name of this common "panel" that a lot of ppl use, http://offload1.icculus.org/openbox/shots/full/2004-07-09-214849.png ... its on the left there for example
[03:39] <jonny> oh ok
[03:39] <intelikey> in a terminal shgs type "od /dev/ttyS0 "  and move the mouse.   if it is ttyS0 it will output octal code.  if not no output.   repete with ttyS1 ......
[03:39] <shgs> intelikey, I used Conectiva, a brazilian RPM based distrib.
[03:40] <crimsun> Elsan: did you follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[03:40] <CuriousCat> I tried to install ndiswrapper but it didn't work. I uninstalled it but now my eth0 isn't working. Any thoughts?
[03:40] <shgs> intelikey, I'll try that. just a sec.
[03:40] <gnomefreak> 5 out of 10 i got for hoary were bad
[03:40] <kevogod> gnomefreak, Really?
[03:40] <prg> crimsun: okay..silly question but how can I paste to that channel you mentioned?  I'm using the xchat in gnome
[03:40] <jllawrence_> I like hoary
[03:40] <Elsan> crimsun: YES, it worked before I reinstalled(the 4 times this weekend), so I'm pretty fed up
[03:40] <kevogod> All of mine were fine.
[03:40] <jonny> so...If you wabt to hear the stupidesy question in the world...what is a breezy cd? is it just an ubgrade cd?
[03:40] <gnomefreak> kevogod, yeah i was pissed it happened to be the ones i tried first :(
[03:40] <crimsun> Elsan: hmm, why did you reinstall?
[03:41] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello world.
[03:41] <crimsun> prg: highlight with the primary mouse button, paste with the middle
[03:41] <prg> crimsun:  heh.. no, I mean how can I access that channel (or whatever it is).  I havn't used IRC in years.
[03:41] <shgs> intelikey, none of the options give any output whatsoever.
[03:41] <ekim1120> want to save my setting from live cd how do i do this
[03:41] <jonny> what is a breezy cd?
[03:42] <crimsun> prg: it's a Web site
[03:42] <intelikey> jonny no it is just like a hoary cd only it is the next release.
[03:42] <samue1> jllawrence_ its the same computer, same OS i just want to create a link rather than copy my music to her home dir or her having to goto my home dir to listen to it
[03:42] <prg> crimsun: indeed.  Posting there now then..
[03:42] <jonny> OH!
[03:42] <jonny> OK!
[03:42] <Elsan> crimsun: different bugs, the computer bugged completely a few times in a row and GNOME gave me a message that the session didn't last for more than 10 seconds blablabla and KDE something liek that. It often bugged because rhythmbox wouldn'T work at all then I switched to amaroK which worked like a charm for a while until it made me bug again
[03:42] <jonny> bye
[03:42] <shgs> intelikey, Does this mean that linux is not accessing the mouse?
[03:42] <jllawrence_> samuel: both are running Linux?
[03:42] <shgs> intelikey, Is there a module kernel for it?
[03:43] <EnsignRedshirt> After spending several hours trying to install an assortment of software on a mac, I just want to say "Awesome job!" to all the debian and ubuntu developers out there.  When I use linux, 99% of what I need is in the repositories (well, except for multimedia, but I won't go there...)
[03:43] <intelikey> shgs then there is a real problem with the hardware.... err yes shgs
[03:43] <Elsan> crimsun: I had just tweaked everything to my taste. :( And now fglrx asks for root power.
[03:43] <shgs> intelikey, My system insists on loading psmouse module.
[03:43] <samue1> jllawrence_  yup same PC different user accounts
[03:43] <crimsun> Elsan: what do you mean it asks for root power? Where are you encountering this?
[03:43] <samue1> jllawrence_  , i just want to place a shortcut in her home dir to point to the music in my home dir
[03:43] <shgs> intelikey, I disabled the psmouse module and put sermouse instead.
[03:43] <Elsan> crimsun: http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33804711
[03:44] <qwerrttyy> word to your muthas: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18378
[03:44] <jllawrence_> samuel, then change the file permisions of your music folder so you wife account can read it
[03:44] <jllawrence_> and creat a shortcut for it
[03:44] <jllawrence_> create
[03:44] <shgs> intelikey, The weird thing is that the mouse was working in the same system with another linux distribution.
[03:44] <crimsun> Elsan: err, you didn't follow BinaryDriverHowto ?
[03:44] <qiHEWSfi> you should take advantage of your multi-desktop feature. it is very powerful with my setup for example
[03:44] <samue1> how do i make the shortcut?
[03:44] <prg> crimsun: okay, i just posted the output of wpa_supplicant on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:44] <qiHEWSfi> text-labeled six workspaces with the windows docked to stay on the workspaces
[03:44] <jllawrence_> right click on the desktop
[03:44] <intelikey> one of the files in /boot has info on your system hardware shgs .....  give me a sec.
[03:44] <Elsan> crimsun: I did, it just gave me this stupid error, my xorg.conf is like it should
[03:44] <jllawrence_> select Create Launcher
[03:45] <unamaus> ok it seems firestarter is not in apt get
[03:45] <unamaus> or synaptics
[03:45] <jllawrence_> and then chose link instead of application
[03:45] <jllawrence_> easy as pie!
[03:45] <crimsun> Elsan: paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:45] <Agrajag> unamaus: yes it is
[03:45] <Agrajag> $ apt-cache search firestarter
[03:45] <Agrajag> firestarter - gtk program for managing and observing your firewall
[03:45] <qiHEWSfi> unamaus i just read something about bsa and others are very 'interested in firestarter and related activities
[03:45] <samue1> and i can move that to her home dir?
[03:45] <qiHEWSfi> damn i misunderstood the site sorry
[03:46] <jllawrence_> Samuel, you do this from her home directory
[03:46] <niels_> all: good evenig everyone... trying to install java (j2sdk1.4 pkg and j2rel.4 pkg)... "failed to preconfigure with exit status 10"... what does that mean?????
[03:46] <samue1> jllawrence_  , ok thankyou :)
[03:46] <EnsignRedshirt> unamaus: firestarter is in the "universe" repository
[03:46] <jllawrence_> Samuel, you are welcome
[03:46] <natex> anyone else having problems connecting to "multiverse"?
[03:46] <unamaus> hmm
[03:46] <jllawrence_> just backports for me
[03:46] <Elsan> crimsun: Ok, will be coming. Mabe it's just that I need to sleep, but my switch to Linux is hindered by rhythmbox bugging on GNOME on ALL of my reinstalls and amaroK stopping for no reason and then not even starting after 3-4 reboots
[03:47] <crimsun> alan_: what was the output from that command?
[03:47] <fuji> Help
[03:47] <fuji> please
[03:47] <samue1> natex, no prob here
[03:47] <j-linux> Installing Java SDK: which directory is best to install in?  I'm using the self-installing file.
[03:47] <natex> samue1, can you post the address?
[03:47] <intelikey> shgs "sudo less /boot/Sys<tab_key> "   and use / to search for mouse search for might tell you more about what the problem is.
[03:48] <samue1> sure one sec
[03:48] <natex> thanks
[03:48] <nalioth> j-linux: we have debs for java that will keep you from wondering
[03:48] <crimsun> prg: please sanitise your /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and post that
[03:48] <fuji> Can some1 help me please?
[03:48] <j-linux> nalioth: debs?
[03:48] <niels_> all: good evenig everyone... trying to install java (j2sdk1.4 pkg and j2rel.4 pkg)... "failed to preconfigure with exit status 10"... what does that mean?????
[03:48] <prg> crimsun: ..one moment...
[03:48] <natex> what's up fuji ?
[03:48] <nalioth> fuji: we need a question
[03:48] <crimsun> prg: also, please add the -w flag to your wpasupplicant command
[03:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell j-linux about javadeb
[03:48] <jllawrence_> fuji, you must tell us your problem
[03:49] <EnsignRedshirt> unamaus: You may already know this, but just in case: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:49] <samue1> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[03:49] <samue1> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[03:49] <kevogod> I just caught Jesus using Ubuntu.
[03:49] <fuji> i am running ubuntu from live cd i'm a new user and i tried to download and install winamp for linux but it want run
[03:49] <fuji> wont*
[03:49] <j-linux> nalioth: so I should use that SDK instead of the one supplied by Sun?
[03:49] <mahangu_> fuji, you cant really work with downloads until you install it to the HDD
[03:49] <crimsun> fuji: install xmms or beep-media-player
[03:49] <fuji> lol
[03:49] <jllawrence_> fuji, where did you download it to?
[03:49] <nalioth> j-linux: that sdk is suns sdk packeged for ubuntu
[03:49] <fuji> i have xmms installed how do i open .pls files with xmms??
[03:50] <jllawrence_> I echo XMMS.. it works awesome
[03:50] <j-linux> nalioth: ok.. thanks for that info.
[03:50] <niels_> all: good evenig everyone... trying to install java (j2sdk1.4 pkg and j2rel.4 pkg)... "failed to preconfigure with exit status 10"... what does that mean?????
[03:50] <mahangu_> fuji, just open them
[03:50] <fuji> how?
[03:50] <alan_> crimsun is that command as root?
[03:50] <nalioth> niels_: where did you get the pkgs?
[03:50] <mahangu_> ubotu, tell niels_ about javadeb
[03:50] <mahangu_> niels_, check your pm from ubotu
[03:50] <samue1> i use beep but i hadley see the difference between beep and xmms only the fonts are nices in beep :)
[03:50] <j-linux> nalioth: is the installation documentation included?  What do I do with a .deb file?
[03:50] <crimsun> alan_: no
[03:50] <alan_> crimsun  as user it just goes to the next line doesnt say anything
[03:51] <wotnarg> wow... kaudiocreator is ignoreing sigkills :p
[03:51] <crimsun> alan_: ...are you sure your sound chipset is pci?
[03:51] <nalioth> j-linux: to install a deb file locally, in a terminal, type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[03:51] <Elsan> crimsun: xorg.conf:http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3537 ----- xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3538 ----------- fglrxinfo: libGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted
[03:51] <Elsan> libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
[03:51] <Elsan> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[03:51] <Elsan> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:51] <Elsan> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:51] <Elsan> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[03:51] <crimsun> whew.
[03:51] <prg> crimsun: okay, its posted.
[03:51] <niels_> mahangu: i got the pckgs from synaptic
[03:51] <nalioth> niels_: read what ubotu wrote to you
[03:51] <alan_> crimsun its a generic soundblaster 16
[03:51] <niels_> mahangu: will check pm
[03:52] <fuji> some help please
[03:52] <fuji> :((((
[03:52] <j-linux> nalioth: sorry, just one more question, should I be in a certain directory when I do that, or is one recommended?
[03:52] <fuji> i cant open the file with xmms
[03:52] <fuji> the url that is
[03:52] <mahangu_> niels_, great
[03:52] <vorador> can anyone walk me through my ati graphics card driver installation
[03:52] <crimsun> alan_: that's most definitely NOT pci
[03:52] <jllawrence_> fuji, the live cd does not use your hard dive.. what time of file are you trying to open?
[03:52] <F_d_6_G> Here's a video of a guy installing Ubuntu on the top of a mountain, now that's EXTREMe! http://www.zenlinux.com/ubuntu_challenge/challenge1.html
[03:52] <alan_> crimsun  sorry
[03:52] <nalioth> j-linux: it doesnt matter, the deb contains the info inside it to install where it needs to (you DO need to be in the same dir as the deb is)
[03:52] <fuji> http://TMD-Radio.Kicks-Ass.Net:8004/listen.pls <<this one
[03:52] <Elsan> Sorry. Forgot about Paste. nalioth
[03:53] <alan_> im on my older machine.. not use to having a seperate soundcard
[03:53] <j-linux> nalioth: ok, thanks a lot.  Downloading now.
[03:53] <Elsan> crimsun: You got it?
[03:53] <crimsun> prg: try generating the hex passphrase using wpa_passphrase
[03:53] <mahangu> fuji, XMMS has open location -use that
[03:53] <crimsun> Elsan: yes, kinda busy atm
[03:53] <fuji> ok
[03:53] <mahangu> Elsan, use pastebin
[03:53] <prg> crimsun: I tried that first, and it didn't work.. then went to ASCII and nothing either
[03:53] <crimsun> prg: what is your AP set to use?
[03:53] <Elsan> mahangu: Just said it, forgot about it for that text.
[03:53] <niels_> mahangu: there are two files for each... which do i download?
[03:53] <prg> crimsun: it has the ASCII code
[03:54] <mahangu> niels_, hoary or breezy?
[03:54] <mahangu> and read the wiki
[03:54] <crimsun> prg: I mean the settings aside from the psk
[03:54] <prg> crimsun: question about that.. the code I chose is long and convoluted with many special characters @#$^ etc.. does linux not like these characters?
[03:54] <fuji> i tried that option but xmms is not processing my command machangu
[03:54] <niels_> breezy
[03:54] <j-linux> Has anyone here run Ubuntu with XFCE?  That is my favorite desktop but I'm having just a couple of problems -- some programs take a long time to load -- 5 minutes.
[03:54] <niels_> mahangu: breezy
[03:54] <krister> I'm looking for another panel than the gnome-one, something similar to the one in xfce but a stand alone aplication, any reocmendation?
[03:54] <nuOpus> hello
[03:54] <Elsan> Any way I can myself those root powers once and for all with my normal account!?
[03:54] <jllawrence_> fuji, it woks on my machine, but I have the os installed on my harddrice....
[03:54] <jasmuz> j-linux: what programs?
[03:54] <fuji> lol
[03:54] <jllawrence_> hard drive
[03:55] <nuOpus> does anyone know which file I would edit to change the brown color that is set when a user logs in?
[03:55] <prg> crimsun: it is set to use the wpa format, wpa-psk, and tkip (sorry I am not sure what all these formats refer to)
[03:55] <nalioth> Elsan: sudo -s or -i gets you a 'root terminal'
[03:55] <jllawrence_> a perfect circle is playing
[03:55] <mahangu> niels_, read the wiki page
[03:55] <mahangu> one sec
[03:55] <mahangu> ubotu, tell niels_ about java
[03:55] <nalioth> j-linux: you using breezy?
[03:55] <mahangu> check your pms now
[03:55] <fuji> ok help me on this then how do i install ubuntu on my harddrive without deleting xp and formatting my hdd??
[03:55] <Elsan> nalioth: I want my account to be as root.
[03:55] <j-linux> jasmuz: evolution, galeon, gnome terminal, gedit (hoary)
[03:55] <j-linux> nalioth: hoary
[03:55] <Elsan> nalioth: No need for "sudo" or that command. Ever.
[03:55] <crimsun> prg: what AP (manufacturer and model)?
[03:56] <samue1> fuji there is an option to resize your xp partition during install
[03:56] <n0odl3> how do i find a broken package?
[03:56] <j-linux> nalioth: I'm afraid to upgrade until Breezy has been out a little while.
[03:56] <CuriousCat> Need help.  I tried to install ndiswrapper but it didn't work. Bigger problem is that my eth0 conked out as well.  I uninstalled ndiswrapper but my eth0 still isn't working. How do I get my ethernet to work again?
[03:56] <jllawrence_> fuji, I have not used the live cd, but the cd probly isn't complied with all the codecs that are needed
[03:56] <intelikey> Elsan also you can "man sudo" and learn how to set it to remember the passwd for a set amount of time, if you like.
[03:56] <nalioth> Elsan: then make it so, but it is not recommended by ubuntu
[03:56] <jasmuz> j-linux: that is odd...
[03:56] <alan_> crimsun: does the  fact that its not PCI make a difference in ubuntu recognizing it?
[03:56] <fuji> i have the install cd btw
[03:56] <uglysmurf> anyone know why the RestrictedFormats wiki has you install totem-xine??
[03:56] <n0odl3> how do i locate a broken package?
[03:56] <j-linux> jasmuz: yes... odd and annoying, because I hate waiting 5 minutes for evolution to load.
[03:56] <jasmuz> fuji: resize your Windows partition and install in the rest of the space
[03:56] <nalioth> j-linux: breezy has "xubuntu-desktop" for installation, fyi
[03:56] <Elsan> nalioth: My ATI driver has been asking me for root powers since I reinstalled the 4th this weekend.
[03:56] <j-linux> nalioth: that is XFCE?
[03:57] <nalioth> j-linux: yes a complete xfce4 desktop
[03:57] <intelikey> Elsan you can set a root passwd.    and login as root.    but you will make all the people in here cry if you do that......
[03:57] <mahangu> ubotu, tell j-linux about XFCE
[03:57] <crimsun> alan_: yes. What you need to use is the snd-sb16 driver
[03:57] <fuji> How about installing grub for dual bootable operating systems??
[03:57] <prg> crimsun: dell truemobile 2300
[03:57] <j-linux> nalioth: sounds good. I'm still afraid to upgrade though.
[03:57] <n0odl3> Does anyone know how to locate a broken package?
[03:57] <jasmuz> j-linux: are you running Gnome services at XFCE startup?
[03:57] <niels_> mahangu: i already read wiki about java, i got the pckgs and got the error messages... i would like to try something differnt this time... sowhich of the sun java's from the link you sent me do i dowlaod?
[03:57] <j-linux> mahangu: I'm already using xfce
[03:57] <nalioth> j-linux: i'ts pretty stable, i've got it on 2 of my machines
[03:57] <j-linux> jasmuz: I believe so.
[03:57] <jllawrence_> fuji, it will do that
[03:57] <alan_> crimsun: can I get that in the form of a deb package
[03:57] <jasmuz> CuriousCat: please query me with the result of ifconfig
[03:57] <jllawrence_> fuji, the installtion cd will resize your computer also
[03:57] <j-linux> nalioth: I believe it is stable.  I'm afraid about the upgrade part.
[03:57] <Elsan> intelikey: What is so bad about that? Did bad things really happen or is it just stories to scare child away from it?
[03:57] <mahangu> niels_, what files are there? ive never used java on linux
[03:57] <nalioth> niels_: the ones that match your version of ubuntu
[03:57] <escobar5> hello all. Can you tell me how do i do to get my two win partitions mounted when i start ubuntu?
[03:57] <prg> crimsun: it worked just fine without the wpa turned on.
[03:58] <jasmuz> j-linux: verify please
[03:58] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to find a broken package with synaptic?
[03:58] <kevogod> n0odl3, System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager. Click the Custom tab and then click on Broken.
[03:58] <crimsun> alan_: sudo modprobe snd-sb16 isapnp=0
[03:58] <j-linux> jasmuz: how do I verify?
[03:58] <intelikey> Elsan both
[03:58] <nalioth> j-linux: upgrade is like butta, (unless you've compiled some weirdness into it)
[03:58] <n0odl3> what custom tab?
[03:58] <niels_> nalioth: how do i distinguish?
[03:58] <jllawrence_> escobar5, you usually have to mount those as root.
[03:58] <nalioth> niels_: in a terminal, type "cat /etc/issue"
[03:58] <sinzui> Athlon vs. PowerBook G4?  Anyone care to comment regarding Breezy's support for them?
[03:58] <kevogod> n0odl3, In Synaptic.
[03:58] <j-linux> nalioth: never compiled anything on this install... but have a lot of intalled programs. would hate to redo it.
[03:58] <MagicFab_Mtl> How may I join th eMarketing team ?
[03:58] <crimsun> prg: my network stanza is just two lines: the ssid and the psk in hex (no double quotations)
[03:59] <samue1> n0odl3 synaptic will tell you when you start it up
[03:59] <Elsan> intelikey: I used to run it when I first tried Linux a while ago on Fedora Core and it was ok.
[03:59] <nalioth> sinzui: full support for the G4 except for wireless (broadcom chipset)
[03:59] <kevogod> Ubuntu does not prompt for a password anymore...
[03:59] <jasmuz> j-linux: settings
[03:59] <alan_> FATAL: Error inserting snd_sb16 (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-sb16.ko): No such device
[03:59] <Elsan> crimsun: Tell when you're ready to help me again please.
[03:59] <crimsun> alan_: lspnp -v -> paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:59] <nalioth> j-linux: did you install them all from official ubuntu repos?
[03:59] <alan_> crimsun: sorry to bore you with such stuff
[03:59] <j-linux> jasmuz: yes... launching Gnome and KDE on startup already.
[03:59] <crimsun> Elsan: nothing looks strange from that output at first glance
[03:59] <prg> crimsun: can I generate the hex code for the ssid using the same program as for the psk key?
[03:59] <hidari> I installed the ati drivers the ubuntu breezy way and i can see my pc on my tv now.  The only problem is that when I play a video, it goes all blue.  How can I get it to display the video on my screen instead of blue?
[03:59] <niels_> nalioth: i mean between the files located at: http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/... i know i'm on breezy...
[03:59] <n0odl3> ok thank you
[04:00] <crimsun> prg: wpa_passphrase
[04:00] <j-linux> nalioth: um... Universe, and one multiverse (msttcorefonts)
[04:00] <sinzui> Elsan: So the airport+bluetooth card is not supported?
[04:00] <jasmuz> j-linux: got no clue then
[04:00] <fuji> How much hdd space does ubunto require>???
[04:00] <escobar5> jllawrence, isn't  there any way to do that automatically when ubuntu starts??
[04:00] <Madpilot> fuji: about 1.8Gb
[04:00] <nalioth> niels_: pick sun-j2re-1.5*
[04:00] <fuji> ok
[04:00] <nalioth> j-linux: your upgrade should be butta-smooth
[04:00] <crimsun> Elsan: does X.Org not start or something? It appears from the logfile to be ok.
[04:00] <fuji> and it wont format my hdd??
[04:00] <jllawrence_> escobar5, you will have to add that to you fstab file
[04:00] <jasmuz> fuji: server install 500 megs, complete install 1.6 gb
[04:00] <Elsan> crimsun: When I run the fglrxinfo command as root, everything works, so that's the proof!
[04:00] <prg> crimsun:  So, just to verify (i assume stanza refers to the block under network={, you only have ssid and psk and NOTHING ELSE?
[04:00] <madsen> Ugh... I'm _really_ getting tired of breezy now... dbus is b0rked and gnome takes, like, 10 minutes to log me in... Any suggestions are _very_ welcome.
[04:00] <fuji> just make a folder ubunto
[04:00] <MagicFab_Mtl> oups - just found it , never mind
[04:00] <Elsan> crimsun: I can run Enemy Terrirtory perfectly as root
[04:01] <fuji> So i dont need to install grub??
[04:01] <intelikey> Elsan i always set a root passwd and i also use root for some things  but it is a very dangerous practice to irc as root or even to use the root account excessively, typos as root can mean reloading your system.  and loosing all data....    so it's at your own risk.
[04:01] <niels_> nalioth: thanks... the same for sdk i presume?
[04:01] <j-linux> nalioth: ok... I'll try later.  Thanks.
[04:01] <jllawrence_> fuji, no, just be carefull when you do the install
[04:01] <fuji> for..?
[04:01] <Elsan> intelikey: IRC makes it dangerous for IRC?
[04:01] <nalioth> niels_: whichever you want, sdk contains the j2re
[04:02] <jllawrence_> fuji, the installtion program will install either lilo or grub
[04:02] <niels_> nalioth: got ya... thanks again...
[04:02] <Madpilot> fuji: Ubuntu is a full operating system; it'll need part of your harddrive partitioned and reformated, usually. What OS is already on the computer?
[04:02] <fuji> ok
[04:02] <fuji> i have xp on both of my partitions
[04:02] <crimsun> Elsan: oh duh, you're missing the permissions mode in Section "DRI", because you don't have a Section "DRI" at all.
[04:02] <threeseas> hello
[04:02] <escobar5> jllawrence, how do i do that? i see in that file some things i dont understand.
[04:02] <jordan> hello all, can anyone help me add some internet radio stations to Rhythmbox?
[04:02] <hidari> I installed the ati drivers the ubuntu breezy way and i can see my pc on my tv now.  The only problem is that when I play a video, it goes all blue.  How can I get it to display the video on my screen instead of blue?
[04:02] <intelikey> Elsan there are ways to hack into boxes.....  think about it.       and if you get hacked as root, they have full control of your system.
[04:03] <jllawrence_> escobar5, I was thinking that if you install smb4k, that program has the option to auto mount files..
[04:03] <crimsun> Elsan: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and at the bottom, add:
[04:03] <crimsun> Section "DRI"
[04:03] <crimsun>         Mode    0666
[04:03] <Elsan> crimsun: I took back my old version from my backup because I saw it wasn't there.
[04:03] <crimsun> EndSection
[04:03] <samue1> jordan have you tried streamtuner?
[04:03] <Elsan> crimsun: ...It diseapeared again... Thanks. Gonna try it out.
[04:03] <jordan> Rhythmbox help? No, I haven't tried streamtuner
[04:04] <crimsun> Elsan: you'll need te restart gdm or kdm after you edit it and save it.
[04:04] <Elsan> intelikey: Yeah... and my Windows FAT32 drive with all my work...
[04:04] <crimsun> need to^
[04:04] <jordan> I just don't understand how to add url's
[04:04] <Elsan> crimsun: Yes, I know, I did that 4 times in 3 days :P
[04:04] <crimsun> prg: correct
[04:04] <threeseas> just went thru the package manager to add a few things like gcc and g++ .... so what am I missing in its setup? as I can seem to find them
[04:04] <alan_> crimsun:  lspnp: /proc/bus/pnp not available
[04:04] <jasmuz> samue1: i have
[04:04] <jordan> what is a location you can add?
[04:04] <jordan> I try to add websites with .pls extensions and they don't work...
[04:04] <crimsun> alan_: ok, can you retrieve the io, dma, and irq information for your audio chipset from bios?
[04:04] <Elsan> intelikey: Thanks.
[04:04] <j-linux> nalioth: I did what you said with the Java SDK .deb package.  How do I test it?  The last message it gave me was "Setting up sun-j2sdk1.5...
[04:05] <nalioth> j-linux: did it return you to a prompt?
[04:05] <alan_> crimsun i'll check
[04:05] <j-linux> nalioth: yes... I typed "java" and it gave me some options.  Looks like something is there..
[04:05] <nalioth> j-linux: type "java --version"
[04:06] <menator> I'm having trouble getting banshee to start. I get this error message: "Unhandled Exception: DBus.DBusException: Unable to determine the address of the message bus
[04:06] <menator> "
[04:06] <j-linux> nalioth: it says, "Unrecognized option: --version, Could no create the Java virtual machine"
[04:06] <madsen> j-linux: 'java -version' (only one dash).
[04:06] <nalioth> j-linux: i'm not sure if it's one dash or two
[04:07] <Demon_stroke> hey people, i get a no active partition error, any ideas?
[04:07] <j-linux> madsen: ok
[04:07] <j-linux> nalioth: ok... it works... thanks!
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> Y HALO THAR
[04:07] <j-linux> yes!
[04:07] <intelikey> ok i gota go,   may God bless ya one and all.
[04:07] <j-linux> Eclipse, here I come...
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> Question:  What should I use to do partition-level imaging of ntfs, fat32, and xfs drives?
[04:07] <jordan> anyone know anything about Rhythmbox and how to make it play internet radio?
[04:07] <threeseas> if something is supposed to be installed.... how do I verify it?
[04:07] <logikal> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/403624
[04:08] <Demon_stroke> "boot disk failure no active partitions", how do i make the windows one active and get an OS chooser working
[04:08] <logikal> HELP! can't install xmms
[04:08] <nalioth> threeseas: use synaptic
[04:08] <jllawrence_> what is xmms saying?
[04:08] <logikal> check the pastebin above out...
[04:08] <threeseas> nalioth: I did, it says it installed but I can find it
[04:08] <threeseas> can't
[04:08] <locust> Oh snap!
[04:08] <madsen> Demon_stroke: 'makeactive' in menu.lst (grubs conf file).
[04:09] <madsen> Demon_stroke: Try searching google for "grub boot windows".
[04:09] <prg> crimsun: perhaps I found what could be hte problem.. when i did this before I entered in the passphrase surrounded by ' ' because it wouldn't accept otherwise (due to special characters).  How can i force special characters to go through?
[04:09] <madsen> Demon_stroke: Oh wait, you're not using grub?
[04:09] <Demon_stroke> i dont know wut im using
[04:09] <nalioth> threeseas: what is that?
[04:09] <crimsun> prg: use ""
[04:09] <locust> I have a small problem, I just installed Ubuntu, and the only problem I've discovered is the fact that I can't run my screen resolution at 1280 x 1024 even though it's been possible in other Linux distros. How can I fix this?
[04:10] <Demon_stroke> it asked if i wanted to install some grub thing i just clicked yes, was like a boot loader or wumtin
[04:10] <jllawrence_> logikal, how do you install it?
[04:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell locust about fixres
[04:10] <madsen> Demon_stroke: Hmm, try the google query I gave you... You're on Ubuntu and want to be able to boot both windows and linux, right?
[04:10] <threeseas> nalioth: I installed gcc and g++ via snaptic... but i cannot find either
[04:10] <nalioth> threeseas: install "build-essential"
[04:10] <Demon_stroke> yeh ubuntu and windows 2000 are on seperate partitions
[04:10] <madsen> Demon_stroke: Yeah, grub is a boot loader, that's what you want. :)
[04:10] <locust> nalioth, Thanks.
[04:10] <threeseas> ok
[04:10] <logikal> ./configure
[04:10] <logikal> make
[04:10] <logikal> sudo make rather
[04:10] <madsen> Demon_stroke: Ok, I think there's even a howto on wiki.ubuntu.com somewhere...
[04:10] <logikal> and it broke
[04:11] <nalioth> locust: NEVER run "sudo make"
[04:11] <jllawrence_> logikal, use sudo synaptic to install xmms
[04:11] <nalioth> logikal: NEVER run sudo make
[04:11] <HrdwrBoB> sudo make *install*
[04:11] <logikal> synaptic pacakage manager?
[04:11] <Demon_stroke> hmm
[04:11] <nalioth> HrdwrBoB: thats almost as bad
[04:11] <jllawrence_> yes, the package manager
[04:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell logikal about checkinstall
[04:11] <locust> nalioth, What does sudo make do?
[04:11] <HrdwrBoB> nalioth: yes, but if you want it to actually install
[04:11] <nalioth> locust: wrecks your box
[04:11] <madsen> nalioth: Why is that any worse than "sudo <whatever>"?
[04:11] <HrdwrBoB> not that you should be compiling from source anyway
[04:11] <locust> nalioth, Oh, heh.
[04:11] <jllawrence_> sudo make will install as root
[04:12] <HrdwrBoB> sudo make will *compile* as root
[04:12] <HrdwrBoB> sudo make install will *install* as root
[04:12] <Demon_stroke> ok but
[04:12] <nalioth> madsen: "make" is generating software. if you've given it root powers, it can DO anything
[04:12] <Demon_stroke> Linux wont boot either, none will, can i use this with a live cd
[04:12] <madsen> nalioth: I know, I was talking about "sudo make install"...
[04:12] <nalioth> checkinstall should be used instead of "make install" for easier system maintenance
[04:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell madsen about checkinstall
[04:13] <madsen> nalioth: Whatever... If you want to install system-wide, then you're bound to grant some root-powers at some point...
[04:13] <jllawrence_> i suppose you could also do this from the command line: apt-get install xmms
[04:13] <logikal> Hmm
[04:13] <logikal> how can i remove the broken install?
[04:14] <nalioth> madsen: yes, at the "make install" part
[04:14] <logikal> I need to LEARN to use synaptic package manager
[04:14] <Demon_stroke> madsen i only have a linux live CD that will boot windows nor ubuntu at all.....
[04:14] <j-linux> Anything I should know about Ubuntu and Eclipse before installing it? (And what is the best directory for this?)
[04:14] <nalioth> madsen: you dont have to "sudo" to MAKE the binary
[04:14] <Demon_stroke> that wont*
[04:14] <erickUbuntu> -ph
[04:14] <nalioth> j-linux: if you use your package manager, you dont have to worry about directories
[04:14] <madsen> nalioth: I know, you said that "sudo make install" was about just as bad... Or did I just misunderstand you?
[04:14] <logikal> How do i uninstall things?
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> logikal, right click and remove ?
[04:15] <j-linux> nalioth: synaptic?  I didn't know it had it...  I'll check.
[04:15] <erickUbuntu> try the synaptic mngr
[04:15] <logikal> THings i installed from compiling
[04:15] <nalioth> madsen: i like "checkinstall" over "make install" on debian systems (ubotu sent you a  PM on it)
[04:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell j-linux about synaptic
[04:15] <jllawrence_> logikal, it never installed all the way, it had 2 errors
[04:15] <jllawrence_> just delete the folders
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> logikal, why you install from source is puzzling ...
[04:15] <_jason> nalioth:  so if I want to compile something with make, what should i do?  make in my home directory and then copy to some place like /usr/local/ ?
[04:15] <madsen> nalioth: Yeah yeah, I know what ckeckinstall is. I've been running LFS before...
[04:16] <j-linux> nalioth: thanks. I'll read that
[04:16] <Demon_stroke> hey people, how do i make a partition active from a ubuntu live cd!?
[04:16] <nalioth> jasmuz: most standard source code is made to install into /usr/local/
[04:16] <nalioth> aggh tab completion errors!
[04:16] <_jason> nalioth:  yeah maybe I shouldn't start my name with _
[04:16] <jasmuz> nalioth: thanks for the reminder
[04:16] <threeseas> nalioth: thanks -- gcc seems to be there no and so is g++ --- or at least the command prompt saying they have no imput...:) thanks
[04:16] <logikal> why do i try to compile things?
[04:16] <jllawrence_> logikal, from the command line, find it and perfrom rm -r and the name of the folder..  guys, help me out on the switch
[04:17] <nalioth> _jason: anything YOU compile should always be installed into /usr/local/ to keep the system from being confused
[04:17] <Demon_stroke> >.<, N33d H3LP m4k!ng a P4R7i7i0N active via live c
[04:17] <Demon_stroke> cd*
[04:17] <_jason> nalioth:  right but I wouldn't want to run sudo make there right?
[04:17] <nalioth> _jason: and using checkinstall is a good way to keep your system maintained (checkinstall is used instead of "make install" and makes debs)
[04:17] <nalioth> _jason: there is no need to run "sudo make"
[04:17] <madsen> Demon_stroke: Asking for help in obnoxious ways ain't gonna get you any help...
[04:18] <_jason> nalioth:  ok I don't know about make install, I'm going to google it
[04:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _jason about checkinstall
[04:18] <_jason> nalioth:  thanks
[04:18] <farruinn> _jason: have you read the INSTALL and README files in the root of the source direcotory? If you haven't you NEED to
[04:18] <tarheelcoxn> ubotu: !ntfs
[04:18] <ubotu> Not a clue, tarheelcoxn
[04:18] <logikal> One other thing guys
[04:18] <jllawrence_> jason, for alot of *nix system you can download the source program.  to instal them, you have to do make and make install to make the program usable
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> _jason, just look into the make file
[04:18] <farruinn> or use checkinstall like nalioth says, it's good advice
[04:19] <logikal> I want to install the ALSA Nvidia sound drivers
[04:19] <Zealot87> how can i make ubuntu automatically mount my other two petitions on start up?!
[04:19] <j-linux> nalioth: I only see "eclipse-nls-sdk" in Synaptic (all repositories).  It just says "Localize dmessage catalog for clipse: this package provides localized message catalogs for Eclipse."
[04:19] <logikal> Does synaptic have that?>
[04:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell j-linux about eclipse
[04:19] <j-linux> Zealot87: are they windows?
[04:19] <_jason> nalioth, farruinn, wickedpuppy: I just used make and ran the program (it was scilab)
[04:19] <Zealot87> what do you mean?
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> _jason, to know what is make install ... look into the makefile
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> no need to google
[04:19] <tarheelcoxn> ubotu: ntfs
[04:19] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:20] <j-linux> Zealot87: What kinds of other partitions do you have?  Windows?
[04:20] <nalioth> _jason: of course you can do that, but "make install" (and checkinstall) install your made program system wide, along with any compiled libraries
[04:20] <logikal> I want to install the ALSA Nvidia sound drivers, how can i do this?
[04:20] <j-linux> Zealot87: there is a script that I ran that automatically mounts them at startup.
[04:20] <_jason> nalioth:  ok I see
[04:20] <Zealot87> one is a VFAT system the other is an extended old ubuntu breezy preview drive, it mounts fine, but i want it to automiatically mount
[04:20] <taiho> Anyone who can help a newbie linux user to make a i686 install?
[04:20] <farruinn> Zealot87: you need to edit /etc/fstab
[04:21] <Zealot87> and do what?
[04:21] <tarheelcoxn> taiho: just ask your questions here
[04:21] <prg> crimsun: looks like wpa_ is working now (thanks!).  can i ask for some details about this?
[04:22] <taiho> well, I wonder if it is possible to update the kernel to i686 instead of i386 without breaking it. Whenever I try it it breaks almost everything and even the network dies
[04:22] <Zealot87> farruinn, and do what?
[04:22] <nalioth> taiho: surely it is, use synaptic
[04:22] <taiho> how to use synaptic?
[04:22] <farruinn> Zealot87: take a look at the file, I think there's a man page on it.  It shouldn't be too hard to figure out
[04:22] <taiho> I usually use apt-get
[04:22] <jllawrence_> Zealot87, are the files you want to mount automatically on a windows partition?
[04:23] <Zealot87> farruinn, this winmac fstab script make my drive work, but now it doesnt anymore for some odd reason, but still, i just want them both to mount at startup
[04:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell taiho about synaptic
[04:23] <alan_> it llooks like my soundcard is a creative Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA
[04:23] <madsen> Is there some way to say "do a basic configuration of the system" if I haven't used the installer for installation (and thus probably missed a couple of things)?
[04:23] <taiho> nalioth nice :P I'll look it up there. thanks
[04:23] <j-linux> Has anyone installed Eclipse with apt-get on Hoary.  This page says "it should work" but that doesn't sound too convincing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[04:23] <Zealot87> farruinn, i've looked at it a while, i dont know how i can make it auto, someone told me that auto is the default setting, which is weird because why dont they mount then
[04:23] <Zealot87> jllawrence_, i dont kno what you mean
[04:23] <_SubStyl3_>  how can i chroot a knoppix-cd? i have problem with the acpi-drivers....i installed ubuntu and it freezes by starting the hozplug subsystem....
[04:24] <bimberi> taiho: install the linux-686 package and reboot
[04:24] <fuji> I had to download the .pls file before i could play it on xmms is that normal??
[04:24] <jllawrence_> the files or folders, where are they located?
[04:24] <Zealot87> on the partition
[04:24] <Zealot87> i dont understand
[04:24] <Sionide> fuji, before you could play what?
[04:24] <threeseas> Using the python ide Eric (installed thru snaptic) I was wondering why it didn't make available the QT Designer and Linguist, as these have menu buttons in eric.
[04:24] <Amaranth> _SubStyl3_: you can pass an option to the kernel in grub to make it disable acpi
[04:24] <fuji> a radiostream
[04:24] <jllawrence_> linux are windows partition?
[04:24] <jllawrence_> or
[04:24] <Orborde> Can anyone check on a bug for me?
[04:24] <Sionide> fuji, oh i see - yes it is normal - on windows it only downloads it to a temp folder then plays it - it's just the same
[04:24] <taiho> bimberi, doesn't help. tried downloading hte right version of hte kernel but compiled as 686 and it broke the system as soon as I restarted. sure, it started, but didn't work more then that
[04:24] <Orborde> I'm trying to figure out whether it's Just Me or not.
[04:24] <tarheelcoxn> madsen: base-config
[04:24] <fuji> ok i see
[04:25] <Zealot87> the one that bugs me the most is a windows partition, a VFAT system
[04:25] <_SubStyl3_> i did this...but it didn't help....
[04:25] <Sionide> :)
[04:25] <tarheelcoxn> madsen: 'man base-config' before you do that
[04:25] <madsen> tarheelcoxn: Cool! Thanks a lot! :)
[04:25] <bimberi> taiho: hm, k, worked for me (except it was 686-smp)
[04:25] <taiho> I hate graphical shit...want to update in non-X mode.
[04:25] <tarheelcoxn> madsen: np
[04:25] <alan_> how could a person find a module for a creative CT4520 soundcard  for use in kbuntu breezy
[04:25] <tarheelcoxn> taiho: aptitude
[04:25] <Orborde> Can anyone check on a bug for me? I'm trying to figure out whether it's Just Me or not.
[04:26] <taiho> aptitude?
[04:26] <tarheelcoxn> taiho: and watch your language
[04:26] <nalioth> Orborde: please ask your question
[04:26] <Discipulus> alright we got like aptitude, dselect, apt-get, damn
[04:26] <tarheelcoxn> taiho: as root, from a command line: aptitude
[04:26] <Discipulus> how many other programs for package management are there?
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> Orborde, are you going to ask or ... ???
[04:26] <bimberi> taiho: "download"? from kernel.org?
[04:26] <jllawrence_> 3
[04:26] <threeseas> I'm hoping that by compiling the latest version of QT that I'll then have these tools available in Eric... and in doing so I don't break anything
[04:26] <fuji> Can i play games on ubuntu??
[04:26] <Orborde> nalioth / wickedpuppy : Sorry...I'll type it...
[04:26] <_SubStyl3_> Amaranth: i did this...my boot-parameters are: "nolapic acpi=off noapic"
[04:26] <jllawrence_> all based on apt-get from debian
[04:26] <farruinn> Discipulus: ultimately they're all front-ends for the same software, so it's really just the interfaces that are different
[04:26] <fuji> Can i play games on ubuntu??
[04:26] <taiho> tarheelcoxn, sorry if I said something wrong, and what is aptitude?
[04:26] <Zealot87> so does anyone know how i can get my VFAT system to automount and be writeable
[04:26] <Amaranth> _SubStyl3_: I dunno then, sorry.
[04:26] <jllawrence_> fuji, yes, all linux games
[04:27] <fuji> Serious Sam 2?
[04:27] <taiho> Zealot87, is it in the fstab?
[04:27] <nalioth> taiho: aptitude is a console (no gui crap) frontend to apt-get
[04:27] <lukas> how do i get the colloquial time for gnome? i know the feature from kde
[04:27] <Zealot87> yeah
[04:27] <fuji> hackers elite :p
[04:27] <taiho> ah, well, then I'll try aptitude
[04:27] <jllawrence_> taiho, aptitude is sorta gui from apt-get, synaptic is full gui from apt-get
[04:27] <tarheelcoxn> ubotu: tell taiho about aptitude
[04:27] <alan_> is there any alsa config programs or arts config to get ubuntu to recognize my soundcard?
[04:27] <bimberi> taiho: you said you "downloaded" the kernel? from kernel.org?
[04:28] <B_166-ER-X> does someones knows how to keybinding ?
[04:28] <Orborde> nalioth / wickedpuppy : Okay, I set my GTK/GNOME theme (are those controlled by the same thing?) to SphereCrystal, and now it doesn't display previews of text files on the file icons.
[04:28] <Zealot87> taiho, yeah its in the fstab
[04:28] <taiho> no, I didn't say that. I apt-get install the kernel
[04:28] <bimberi> taiho: you did.  but i understand now :)
[04:28] <taiho> Zealot87 then you need to set it as auto in the options
[04:28] <_SubStyl3_> Amaranth: what do u mean with "dunno"?
[04:28] <Orborde> It does this with several other themes as well, but SphereCrystal is kind of my "test case"
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> Orborde, that theme doesn't come default .. you downloaded ?
[04:29] <Discipulus> ubotu, tell me about aptitutde
[04:29] <Amaranth> _SubStyl3_: I don't know what to do.
[04:29] <taiho> bimberi, ah, sorry. saw it now
[04:29] <Discipulus> ubotu, tell me about aptitude
[04:29] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: Yes. I got it through Synaptic
[04:29] <Orborde> Let me look up what repo it's from...
[04:29] <threeseas> Since Eric and QT are ubuntu supported  and QT is a dependancy of Eric, maybe this is something to look into - that QT Designer and Linguist should be accessable to Eric
[04:29] <jllawrence_> gota go stain some oak.  see ya latter
[04:30] <ks> hello all I have 4 puters in the house and am trying to figure out the best way to share files between them.  what are your thoughts?  Right now I'm using samba (when it work's) but there has to be a better way that is more stable? Any ideas or how to's wold be great.
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> Orborde, go to system -> preference -> file management -> preview
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> and check ya settings there
[04:30] <Amaranth> ks: Are and of the computer windows machines?
[04:30] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: Checked them.
[04:30] <Amaranth> err, any
[04:30] <tarheelcoxn> ks: man nfs
[04:30] <bimberi> taiho: not sure if i was clear about it but installing the linux-686 package will install a ready-made 686 kernel (no compiling necessary)
[04:30] <_jason> nalioth:  so it is safe to run "sudo checkinstall" ?
[04:30] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: "Show Text in icons" = Always
[04:31] <wickedpuppy> Orborde, then its a bug ... file it pls :P or email to the author
[04:31] <taiho> bimberi, I know that. The linux-image-[versionname] -686
[04:31] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: Perhaps you should download gtk2-engines-spherecrystal and see if you get the same behavior?
[04:31] <Amaranth> ks: If yes, samba is the only option. If no, there are other options but I don't know them.
[04:31] <bimberi> taiho: good, i'll stop hassling you then :P
[04:31] <ks> Amaranth One is.  But it only has 15Gb for Windoze and nothing on it that needs to be shared.  (DUAL BOOTED)
[04:31] <_SubStyl3_> did anybody know how i can "chroot" something with a knoppix-cd?? this is my first attempt to install linux and i try it since 3 days!!!! and don't see anything of linux except the shell ;(
[04:31] <taiho> bimberi, hehe, no problem. As I guess it should work I don't understand why it doesn't
[04:32] <nalioth> _jason: of course it is
[04:32] <Amaranth> ks: Having it share stuff isn't the issue, having it see things shared is.
[04:32] <_jason> nalioth:  k
[04:32] <taiho> How do I make sure all I download becomes i686 compiled and if it isn't get's compiled for i686 automatically?
[04:32] <taiho> well, apt-get install that is
[04:32] <nalioth> _jason: the nice thing about checkinstall is: you have a nice custom deb for your system afterwards that you can save
[04:33] <tarheelcoxn> taiho: no need
[04:33] <regeya> also easy to uninstall, don't forget that, nalioth :-)
[04:33] <Evan_G> question: how do I turn off the sound effect that happens when I log in?
[04:33] <ks> Amaranth No issue there.  I have it only for BF2 and thats it.  plus the antivirus firewall spyware crap (ROFL)
[04:33] <_jason> nalioth:  so it is just like a package from the repos, except stored locally right?
[04:33] <taiho> tarheelcoxn, it just get's me 386 binarys all the time though
[04:33] <nalioth> _jason: basically, yes
[04:33] <taiho> my ubuntu must be Fubar
[04:33] <threeseas> ~~~
[04:33] <bytefoo> go blue devils! :o
[04:33] <Amaranth> ks: Well, that doesn't change the fact that I don't know what the other options are. :) Except nfs, but it sucks.
[04:34] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: How do I figure out what repo it's out of? I'll file the bug, but I'm wondering how to check whether it's universe/multiverse or something.
[04:34] <_SubStyl3_> did anybody know how i can "chroot" something with a knoppix-cd?? this is my first attempt to install linux and i try it since 3 days!!!! and don't see anything of linux except the shell ;(
[04:34] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: BTW, it seems to be every theme installed by gnome-themes-extras
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> every theme ?
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> except default ?
[04:34] <mebsd> windows is a good GUI, why suffering ugly kde and gnome
[04:35] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: Checking...
[04:35] <thrice`> mebsd, huh ?
[04:35] <ks> Amaranth I was thinking a web server on one machine but .... I suck at setting them up.  I'm trying to look outside the box.  maybe an ftp server on the main  one
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> Orborde, nope i got preview ...
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> and i am not using default
[04:35] <Amaranth> GigaClon: Windows does have a decent gui
[04:35] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: Check with the SphereCrystal or Gorilla themes. Neither one works for me.
[04:36] <ks> Amaranth So does OSX
[04:36] <thrice`> gnome is good too though
[04:36] <thrice`> as is kde
[04:36] <madsen> Orborde: It isn't because you've accidentally switched of previewing of text-files in System -> Preferences -> File Management?
[04:36] <jasmuz> ks: OSX rocks at GUI
[04:36] <Amaranth> ks: Indeed.
[04:37] <madsen> jasmuz: Hear, hear! :)
[04:37] <Amaranth> thrice`: They rock too. :)
[04:37] <Orborde> madsen: I checked that.
[04:37] <ks> I tried kde and so did my wife ... we just don't like it.  I love some of the 3rd party apps (K3b, Amarok) but kde is too cluttered
[04:38] <hill0703>  How do I copy an entire folder and subfolders to a new folder?  I didn't see anything in the cp manual that helps me
[04:38] <tarheelcoxn> taiho: the benefit is in how the kernel makes use of the hardware, not in how the system makes use of the kernel
[04:38] <virgo> Hi, I just updated to Breezy and restarted X and my audio is no longer working. Any ideas?
[04:38] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: Okay, I uninstalled the gnome-themes-extras package and checked against what I think are mostly the defaultly included themes.
[04:38] <tarheelcoxn> hill0703: cp -aR
[04:38] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: Crux and Mist do not do the preview thing.
[04:38] <Zealot87> taiho, how do i set it as auto in the preferences
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> Orborde, i am using clearlook
[04:39] <jasmuz> virgo: check your alsamixergui from the console
[04:39] <virgo> Jas, everything is turned up
[04:39] <madsen> Orborde: Could it be the icon-themes not supporting it?
[04:39] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: Try switching to Crux for a moment and see if you see the problem.
[04:39] <kingright> how do i get mplayer
[04:39] <Orborde> madsen: I = not smart. I don't know.
[04:39] <taiho> Zealot87, that I sadly cannot say...I only know little of it and use what I find on the net
[04:40] <concept10> what needs to be installed on box that I want get into with VNC?
[04:40] <taiho> tarheelcoxn, I do know that it is how the kernel uses the system, but it still breaks my system
[04:40] <Zealot87> taiho, ok well im stuck in a rut
[04:40] <Zealot87> taiho, i've tried so many things
[04:40] <taiho> Zealot87, I'll find it for you
[04:40] <Orborde> kingright: Search for "mplayer" in Synapti
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> Orborde, there is preview for crux
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> ugly theme though
[04:41] <nekostar> bbiab
[04:41] <concept10> !vnc
[04:41] <ubotu> [vnc]  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[04:41] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: Okay. That's weird. I don't get text preview. Mind you, this is text files that do this, not images, pdf, or whatever.
[04:41] <kingright> ty
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> Orborde, actually you don't go here and there in terminal ?
[04:42] <B_166-ER-X> how do i execute a .sh file ?
[04:42] <bimberi> concept10: a vnc server (System -> Prefs -> Remote Desktop) and client (Apps -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client) are installed by default
[04:42] <vnpaven> Do you need to add "sudo" before a command when you use root user?
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> its very very rare that i use gui to move around directories
[04:42] <bigfoot2> where's the offtopic room again?
[04:43] <_SubStyl3_> how can i chroot something? i'm a linux-newbie and don't know what to do.....
[04:43] <nalioth> bigfoot2: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:43] <bigfoot2> I don't remember who it was, but somebodies and I were talking about "Martin Luther King" speech. Was that you nalioth ?
[04:43] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: Well, that's no excuse for the GUI not working.
[04:44] <nalioth> bigfoot2: yes it was (among others)
[04:44] <wickedpuppy> Orborde, pls feel free to post the bug :P
[04:44] <bigfoot2> nalioth: could you tell me that hyperlink again (for the MLK video in Flash), please?
[04:44] <Orborde> vnpaven: No. Sudo runs stuff as root. If you're at a root terminal, you're already running as root.
[04:44] <ReleaseX> b_166-ER-X: sudo sh filename.sh
[04:44] <nalioth> bigfoot2: um. i never had it
[04:44] <bigfoot2> nalioth: ok
[04:45] <PMantis> For those following, I repopulated the LDAP database, and all is well. synaptic/apt would've done it for me had there not been apt errors.
[04:45] <bigfoot2> goodbye everyone
[04:45] <PMantis> Can anyone tell me why I can't upgrade webmin-core, nor remove it? script errors each way...
[04:46] <Elsan> crimsun: Are you there?
[04:47] <foznot> I just got a new micro innovations ps/2 mouse and Breezy is having problems with it. It came up ImPS/2 and did nothing, I tried ExplorerPS/2 and that didn't work...any ideas?
[04:48] <_SubStyl3_>  how can i "chroot" the acpi-drivers from the knoppix-cd????
[04:49] <j-linux> I'm trying to register my new Java with Firefox.  Can't find anything online except UbuntuGuide which is different method.  Also java.sun.com has a little info, but I'm not sure if it is for Ubuntu.
[04:49] <nalioth> j-linux: if you used the debs you were pointed out, your firefox is set up
[04:50] <j-linux> nalioth: I used them, everything went as planned, but Firefox doesn't have Java
[04:50] <nalioth> j-linux: that is weird
[04:50] <j-linux> nalioth: also Eclipse is acting funny.  Nothing on the welcome screen
[04:50] <aeon17x> j-linux: did you also install the Mozilla plugin for Java?
[04:50] <nalioth> aeon17x: not necessary
[04:50] <j-linux> aeon17x: I installed JavaSDK
[04:51] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, What's 'lbpager'?  You suggested installing it yesterday.
[04:51] <j-linux> nalioth: does the latest Eclipse run on Hoary?
[04:51] <j-linux> or did I screw up?
[04:51] <vnpaven> Orborde: What advantages when I use user with the root role instead of user with the admin role?
[04:51] <nalioth> j-linux: i know nothing about eclipse
[04:51] <j-linux> ok
[04:51] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: it's a pager for your fluxbox
[04:52] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, You sure that's not 'bbpager'?
[04:52] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: open a terminal and type "apt-cache search fluxbox"
[04:53] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Thanks.  I'm just asking 'cuz I typed in the full line you gave me and it couldn't find lbpager.
[04:53] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: you are using breezy right? with uni and multienabled?
[04:54] <budluva_> anyone aware of a good dvd rip howto?
[04:54] <kingright> how do i use the tremto chat in?
[04:54] <poimen> ok , I have problem with my sound card It only leaves me hear one thing at a time I can not open skype and a game and hear the sound output sof both programs just one. Also if I am tring to view something with kaffeine and want to use other program that uses sound one gets the sounbd blocked whta can I do? Or this is normal in linux ???
[04:54] <SpecialBudd> what are the repositories for breezy ubuntu and kubuntu?
[04:54] <budluva_> or can i just burn the .vobs off the dvd?
[04:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell SpecialBudd about sources
[04:54] <rixth> budluva_, there is one on the Ubuntu wiki
[04:54] <Amaranth> poimen: System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector, make sure esd is chosen in both dropdowns
[04:55] <rixth> budluva_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DVDRippingandEncoding
[04:55] <kingright> how do i use the trem to chat in?
[04:55] <budluva_> rixth, cheers
[04:55] <_SubStyl3_> how can i reinstall ubuntu with rchroot from knoppix? at the moment my acpi-drivers are inducing a freeze by starting the hotplug subsystem.....
[04:55] <nalioth> kingright: in the term, type "irssi"
[04:55] <cfh_dev> how do I ban a kernel module from loading?
[04:55] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, I enabled uni, but prolly not multi.  Lemme check...
[04:55] <kingright> no noirc
[04:55] <j-linux> How would I search my computer for a firefox plugins directory?
[04:55] <Orborde> vnpaven: Running as a user with admin powers is better, because then you only "power up" to root for specific tasks, so it's less likely that errant software will fraggle your whole system.
[04:55] <nalioth> j-linux: if you join #kubuntu-offtopic i can help you
[04:56] <budluva_> dvd::rip = dvdrip in breezy?
[04:56] <kingright> in the trem chat client
[04:56] <nalioth> budluva_: yes thats it
[04:56] <kingright> term
[04:56] <budluva_> nalioth, cool thanks
[04:56] <_SubStyl3_> how can i reinstall ubuntu with rchroot from knoppix? at the moment my acpi-drivers are inducing a freeze by starting the hotplug subsystem.....
[04:56] <j-linux> nalioth: ok... thanks... I'm over there
[04:56] <nalioth> kingright: i'm not sure i understand. irssi is a terminal chat client
[04:57] <crew_hidalgo> hello
[04:57] <crew_hidalgo> =o
[04:57] <erickUbuntu> Guys is openoffice updated in our repo?
[04:57] <kingright> in the term server client
[04:58] <uglysmurf> anyone know why the RestrictedFormats wiki has you install totem-xine??
[04:58] <thewayofzen> any chance the blackbox version in the repos might be updated to fix some of the bugs in the current version?
[04:58] <bimberi> erickUbuntu: no, but 00o2 is available from a test repo ...
[04:58] <bimberi> !ooo2
[04:58] <ubotu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[04:58] <logikal> who's feeling helpful?
[04:58] <logikal> http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/403656
[04:58] <escobar5> hello, i'm trying to change the permissions of a folder where i mounted a ntfs partition, but it doesn't change, any ideas?
[04:58] <erickUbuntu> k bimberi,thanks, but Im going to download the lates version in openoffice.org can I install that
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> kingright, you want to use irc in terminal issit ?
[04:59] <crew_hidalgo> anyone else have problems with gcc on instaling 5.1 ubuntu?
[04:59] <kingright> sure
[04:59] <_SubStyl3_> can anybody plz help my for a short moment? can anybody explain me how i reinstall kubuntu with the acpi-drivers from knoppix???
[04:59] <kingright> how do i get on a server?
[04:59] <wickedpuppy> crew_hidalgo, 5.10 you mean ?
[04:59] <crew_hidalgo> yep
[04:59] <bimberi> erickUbuntu: possibly, i'm not sure, personally i'd go for the test repository version
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> crew_hidalgo, no problem
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> kingright, man irssi
[05:00] <erickUbuntu> k thanks anyway
[05:00] <bimberi> logikal: sudo modprobe...
[05:00] <crew_hidalgo> the package is installed according to Synaptic, but the command gcc yeilds nothing
[05:00] <prg> Hi, does anyone know if breezy comes with SUN java installed?
[05:00] <logikal> bimberi, I tried that, same error
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> crew_hidalgo, type gcc and press tab
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> what you get ?
[05:00] <Versed> No, that would make life easy
[05:01] <bimberi> logikal: ah, k, sry no other thoughts i'm afraid :/
[05:01] <Versed> especially if one's using ppc
[05:01] <crew_hidalgo> wickedpuppy, nothing =/
[05:01] <bimberi> prg: no but you can install it ...
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> crew_hidalgo, then you got no gcc :P
[05:01] <bimberi> ubotu tell prg about java
[05:01] <escobar5> hello, i'm trying to change the permissions of a folder where i mounted a ntfs partition, but it doesn't change, any ideas?
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> crew_hidalgo, install build-essential
[05:02] <prg> bimberi: thanks.
[05:02] <wickedpuppy> escobar5, the folder is in the ntfs ... yes ?
[05:02] <bimberi> prg: yw :)
[05:02] <crew_hidalgo> wickedpuppy, in Synaptic?
[05:02] <escobar5> wickedpuppy yes
[05:02] <wickedpuppy> crew_hidalgo, or apt-get
[05:02] <escobar5> wickedpuppy, sorry, is fat
[05:02] <crew_hidalgo> alright
[05:02] <wickedpuppy> escobar5, i doubt microsoft windows uses the same permission system as linux ...
[05:03] <joebu23> does vnc come with ubuntu 5.10
[05:03] <poimen> Amaranth I am using KDE :(
[05:03] <Amaranth> poimen: ouch, ok
[05:03] <Versed> lol
[05:03] <Amaranth> poimen: #kubuntu might be more help
[05:03] <bimberi> joebu23: a vnc server (System -> Prefs -> Remote Desktop) and client (Apps -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client) are installed by default
[05:03] <jralabate> ok im in
[05:03] <pppoe_dude> hi... is cfs any good?
[05:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> can anyone see why this could be saying 'missing arguement to exec'? sudo find ./ -uid 1032 -exec chown garry {};
[05:04] <jralabate> '
[05:04] <poimen> ok
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> Kamping_Kaiser, \
[05:04] <escobar5> wickedpuppy, the partition is fat, how do i do to allow other users to write??
[05:04] <Elsan> For some reason, the command "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" does NOT work, it worked before this 5th reinstall this week. It says it can't find the package.
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> escobar5, they can write ... check ya fstab .. it should be mounted as rw
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> wickedpuppy: you mean \{\}; ?
[05:05] <pppoe_dude> Elsan check you /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> {} \;
[05:05] <zpao> is anybody familiar with setting up ubuntu so that I could choose my window manager at startup (like suse).  I want to have both gnome and kde
[05:05] <jralabate> back in the day my pal was in the term doing a chat and he would use ' sor a shortcut to chat how do i do that?
[05:05] <crew_hidalgo> wickedpuppy, build-esential was what I needed thank you very much =)
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah, thanks ill try that
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> crew_hidalgo, cheers
[05:05] <tarheelcoxn> zpao: just add the kubuntu-desktop package
[05:06] <pppoe_dude> Elsan did u uncomment the repositories?
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> Kamping_Kaiser, eh ah ... why ./ ?
[05:06] <jralabate> back in the day my pal was in the term doing a chat and he would use 'for a shortcut to chat how do i do that?
[05:06] <tarheelcoxn> zpao: at your login prompt, choose KDE/gnome from the sessions menu
[05:06] <logikal> How do i become root in kubuntu?
[05:06] <Elsan> pppoe_dude: ok, what do I need to check? I modified AFTER I saw I couldn't check it. No, I didn't uncomment, I added 2 repositories, that'S all
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> ok, so just converted OpenOffice2.0 rpms to deb and installed on this Breezy... working fine... so fine
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> wickedpuppy: that worked, thanks.
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> logikal, same as ubuntu .... sudo
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> i only want to search this sir
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> *dir
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> even menues
[05:06] <bimberi> logikal: sudo -i (for a root login shell)
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> menus
[05:06] <pppoe_dude> Elsan there should be a bunch of lines starting with "deb" uncomment all of them...
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> oh . will do i think
[05:06] <zpao> tarheelcoxn: where can i find that package?
[05:07] <pppoe_dude> i have about 12 of them
[05:07] <tarheelcoxn> zpao: use apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic
[05:07] <tarheelcoxn> your choice of package management frontends
[05:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> wickedpuppy: i was tought ./ so you dont find yourself searching for . files one day :)
[05:07] <Elsan> pppoe_dude: It doesn't even find half of the packages in "Add programs" ARG1!!!!!! This is the 5th-6th time I reinstall and each time a new error comes out!!!!
[05:08] <dmlinux> is there a gDesklets for KDE environment
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> Kamping_Kaiser, haaa k k ....
[05:08] <pppoe_dude> Elsan did u apt-get update?
[05:08] <farruinn> dmlinux: konfabulator comes to mind, but I don't use kde so I dont' know
[05:08] <dle> can anyone running breezy give me an md5sum on /usr/bin/find ?
[05:08] <HaroldJohnson> Great news, everyone: Ubuntu Server runs on very old Mac systems.   In my case, a 1998 Powerbook G3 ("Wallstreet 2", which is consider "Old World")
[05:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> as if a G3 is old world
[05:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> old world are teh ones with flopyhs ;)
[05:09] <farruinn> depends on the g3 model, some are definitely old world
[05:09] <ColonelKernel> gnome performance is shit
[05:09] <Elsan> pppoe_dude: It seems to work now... lemme see...
[05:09] <farruinn> HaroldJohnson: did you get it to work with quik or bootx?
[05:09] <HaroldJohnson> Kamping_Kaiser, This didn't even come with a floppy
[05:09] <HaroldJohnson> farruinn, BootX
[05:09] <Elsan> pppoe_dude: How come it happned THIS install? It never did it before!
[05:10] <pppoe_dude> Elsan never did what?
[05:10] <imajuchi> hello everyone, i would like to know if there is a program that i could use to install source packages since ive try to compile some programs and i always get errors. please if you can tell me
[05:10] <HaroldJohnson> Kamping_Kaiser, I mean, it may have originally come with a floppy module, but mine didn't.  Don't have a CD-ROM one, either.
[05:10] <Elsan> pppoe_dude: I never had to uncomment before... Maybe because I didn't do the updates first...
[05:10] <pppoe_dude> Elsan Oh, its prolly some option during setup
[05:11] <HaroldJohnson> Kamping_Kaiser, It's definitely Old World.  Needed to use BootX to install.
[05:11] <bimberi> dle: ea7e2c9c8ac4d78614350de40d6c4b03 (-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 68480 2005-07-05 23:15 /usr/bin/find) - i'm only up-to-CD-date though
[05:11] <pppoe_dude> Elsan sometimes it asks you to download from internet (last step in setup
[05:11] <zpao> tarheelcoxn: so after I intall kubuntu-desktop- what do I do next? or will it just show up on the login screen?
[05:11] <pppoe_dude> pppoe_dude if you say no, it doesnt uncomment them
[05:11] <farruinn> imajuchi: did you take a look at the debian apt howto?
[05:11] <pppoe_dude> lol
[05:11] <pppoe_dude> Elsan if you say no it doesnt uncomment them
[05:11] <Elsan> pppoe_dude: I did for my french language as usual... Firefox is in english this time...
[05:12] <tarheelcoxn> zpao: kde will be an option at login time, yes
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> aha
[05:12] <locust> Okay, so I have another question :D I have Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog", and I want to upgrade to 5.10 "Breezy Badger", how difficult is it for me to upgrade? I'm not too familure with apt-get, but is there an easy way for me to upgrade?
[05:12] <imajuchi> farruinn im very new to ubuntu actually
[05:12] <Elsan> pppoe_dude: Maybe I said it without knowing...
[05:12] <tarheelcoxn> zpao: you shouldn't have to configure anything
[05:12] <imajuchi> i never heard of it
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> maybe
[05:12] <tarheelcoxn> zpao: unless you don't like the KDE defaults. :P
[05:12] <Elsan> How can I download a french version of my Firefox browser?
[05:12] <imajuchi> where can i get it?
[05:12] <bimberi> locust: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:12] <imajuchi> thank you in advance
[05:12] <blmartin777> Can I have a global menu bar in gnome like mac os x (kde also has this feature)?
[05:12] <farruinn> imajuchi: in that case you should use synaptic to install packages and not worry about compiling from source
[05:13] <farruinn> imajuchi: let me look up a link
[05:13] <locust> Thank you bimberi. :)
[05:13] <imajuchi> thank you
[05:13] <zpao> tarheelcoxn: thanks I didnt realize it was that easy :) I'm sure I'll change some things in KDE
[05:13] <bimberi> locust: yw :)
[05:13] <tarheelcoxn> zpao: np. have fun!
[05:13] <Elsan> How can I download a french version of my Firefox browser?
[05:13] <imajuchi> there are some nice little programs that i would like to use but are only as source packages :(
[05:14] <imajuchi> i know i would need to learn sooner or later
[05:14] <escobar5> hello, i can write in my fat partition only if i am as root, how can i do that with another user??
[05:14] <bimberi> Elsan: i'm not sure, but mozilla-firefox-locale-fr-fr could be what you need
[05:14] <dle> bimberi: Jeez, I hope I haven't been rooted.
[05:15] <nalioth> Elsan: ask in #ubuntu-fr
[05:15] <Elsan> bimberi: For Canada would, mozilla-firefox-locale-ca-fr be ok?
[05:15] <imajuchi> for example this one it really nice set-cd-rom-speed-1.1.4
[05:15] <Elsan> nalioth: I was gonna, thanks.
[05:15] <imajuchi> but it is only as a source package
[05:15] <farruinn> imajuchi and anyone that's even relatively new to apt: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto is an *essential* bit of reading
[05:16] <imajuchi> ok thank you for your help farruinn :)
[05:16] <blmartin777> anyone
[05:16] <farruinn> imajuchi: if it's a package available from the repositories the command you want is apt-src
[05:16] <nalioth> farruinn: you mean "!info apt-howto"  ?
[05:16] <bimberi> Elsan: no such package afaik
[05:16] <escobar5> hello, i can write in my fat partition only if i am as root, how can i do that with another user??
[05:16] <Elsan> Nothing works anyway. I'll just reinstall AGAIN for the 7th time I can't even get the package
[05:17] <bimberi> dle: so do i, tried chkrootkit?
[05:17] <farruinn> nalioth: I don't like the info interface :P
[05:17] <nalioth> !info apt-howto
[05:17] <ubotu> apt-howto: (example-based guide to APT), section universe/doc, is optional. Version: 1.8.10.3-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 56 kB
[05:17] <nalioth> farruinn: not THAT info interface
[05:17] <dle> bimberi: that's what alerted me.  however rkhunter reported no probs.  I wonder if it has something to do with my having just upgraded.
[05:17] <Blair> dang it....i got my wireless working yesterday, but today it won't work...doesn't seem to want to see the network...
[05:18] <Blair> 'route' shows no addresses at all
[05:18] <farruinn> ColonelKernel: turn on reduced performace or whatever it's called
[05:18] <kingright> any cool chat programs for ubuntu?
[05:18] <ColonelKernel> farruinn, stop smoking crack.
[05:18] <farruinn> nalioth: aah, nice! I'm glad someone's invested the time to create a bot here
[05:18] <Elsan> Thanks anyway, bimberi. I'll just reinstall tomorrow, too tired right now or soething like angry because rhythmbox has never worked for me under GNOME, only KDE.
[05:18] <nalioth> farruinn: not me. blame cafuego
[05:18] <escobar5> hello, can anyone help me, i can write in my fat partition only if i am as root, how can i do that with another user??
[05:19] <imajuchi> My question is, if i have the source package for example in my home directory, can i use apt to install that package?
[05:19] <Blair> anyone else have problems restarting a working wireless on breezy?
[05:19] <locust> sudo is used alot in ubuntu, what does that stand for exactly?
[05:19] <farruinn> escobar5: I don't know exactly what you need to do, but I believe you need to change something in the options column in /etc/fstab
[05:19] <bimberi> dle: ah, possibly i guess
[05:19] <wickedpuppy> imajuchi, dpkg -i
[05:19] <nalioth> locust: Super User DO
[05:19] <kingright> and cool chat programs for ubuntu?
[05:20] <farruinn> kingright: gaim
[05:20] <dle> psi
[05:20] <jrattner1> How do I get the multimedia keys (Volume Up, Volume Down and mute) work on my laptop keyboard
[05:20] <kingright> not  IM
[05:20] <Blair> nalioth: actually, it's "substitute user" do
[05:20] <escobar5> farruinn, i have there the option rw. I don't know what else do i need
[05:20] <JaZyLNX> how do i install a .deb file
[05:20] <Blair> because you can "su" to any user, not just root
[05:20] <JaZyLNX> i converted it to a deb
[05:20] <kingright> kind of like irc
[05:20] <JaZyLNX> now i just need to install it
[05:20] <imajuchi> hi wickedpuppy, it does not matter if it a source package? thank you. i thought it only applies to deb packages
[05:20] <farruinn> Blair: I've also heard "switch user"
[05:20] <nalioth> Blair: really? i've never had more than one human user on any of my boxes
[05:21] <farruinn> kingright: then you need to be more specific  next time.  I prefer irssi-text
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> imajuchi, oh you mean .tar.gz ?
[05:21] <imajuchi> yes
[05:21] <_jason> escobar5:  my fstab line reads as follows and I can read and write to it as a regular user: /dev/hda5       /media/shared	vfat    user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0       0
[05:21] <Blair> you can add zillions
[05:21] <durt> jazylnx: sudo dpkg -i asfaslfkj.deb
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> yes it does ... i thought you mean source deb
[05:21] <comradevik> hi everyone
[05:21] <comradevik> root@ubuntu:/media# chmod 777 ipod
[05:21] <comradevik> chmod: changing permissions of `ipod': Read-only file system
[05:21] <kingright> any other?
[05:21] <comradevik> how can i change my ipod?
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> imajuchi, tar -zxvf ... ./configure , make , make install
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> that will do
[05:21] <Blair> most of the features of unix are built around the multi-user concept
[05:21] <thom_> argg just installed kubuntu everything was working fine now ubuntu desktop is blank and i get the drumbeat over
[05:21] <JaZyLNX> ty durt
[05:21] <farruinn> kingright: apt-cache search irc will give you a good list
[05:21] <pppoe_dude> is cfs any good? it seems to be pretty easy to use but is it safe?
[05:21] <Blair> permissions, logins, shells, environments, etc
[05:21] <kingright> kk
[05:22] <escobar5> ok _jason, thanks, i will check
[05:22] <imajuchi> for some reason im not able to compile anything :(
[05:22] <prg> Hi, does someone know another repository that can replace the multiverse at the moment (it seems tobe broken)?
[05:22] <imajuchi> ive try
[05:22] <wickedpuppy> imajuchi, you got build-essential ?
[05:22] <imajuchi> yes
[05:22] <kingright> big list there!!!!
[05:22] <zoexii> hello, where can I find an IRC room for help with general hardware stuff (correct size/shape motherboard?)
[05:22] <Blair> so here's the basic question:  if my wireless was working fine yesterday, why didn't it just "come up" today?
[05:22] <wickedpuppy> imajuchi, you got gcc ?
[05:22] <imajuchi> yes
[05:22] <farruinn> kingright: you're optiions are many then :)
[05:22] <comradevik> anyone?
[05:22] <thom_> does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:22] <wickedpuppy> imajuchi, can you do some helloworld.c and compile ?
[05:22] <comradevik> how do i change my ipod to be not read only
[05:23] <imajuchi> umm, what is it?
[05:23] <farruinn> comradevik: it's probably hfs+ which means enabling rw will be dangerous
[05:23] <kingright> i c the well ty i sould be busy for a hour
[05:23] <imajuchi> let me try it
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> imajuchi, you know how to program ... don't ya ?
[05:23] <comradevik> its jsut an ipod
[05:23] <imajuchi> nooooooooooooo
[05:23] <imajuchi> :)
[05:23] <comradevik> what can be dangerous about it
[05:23] <thom_> i just installed kubuntu now ubuntu is gone
[05:23] <comradevik> my gtk deleted all my music anyways :(
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> eh ah
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> nvm
[05:23] <farruinn> comradevik: the hfsplus driver is sketchy, not fully functional. I've used it and not had problems, but not with an ipod
[05:23] <thom_> how can i switch back to gdm?
[05:23] <locust> apt-get is so nice :D
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> in that case what error you getting from make ?
[05:23] <imajuchi> yes
[05:24] <imajuchi> nooo,
[05:24] <sambagirl> hi can someone allow me to try a test with their ubuntu system?
[05:24] <imajuchi> hold on
[05:24] <Agamotto> hfs+ is still a bit dodgy when writing to Mac volumes
[05:24] <crimsun> prg: sure, what sort of details?
[05:24] <Blair> i want my wireless working again
[05:24] <aji> Question: tried apt-get dist-upgrade, but nothing "spectactular" happened - apparently I'm still on Hoary.  Any ideas?
[05:24] <imajuchi> i will tell you now
[05:24] <farruinn> kingright: also play around with synaptic and browse your options there
[05:24] <comradevik> its not a mac volume
[05:24] <locust> I just used apt-get on hoary and it's working fine. :D
[05:24] <kingright> what would i look for?
[05:24] <farruinn> comradevik: it's an iPod, right?
[05:24] <locust> so neat
[05:24] <comradevik> yeah
[05:24] <nalioth> farruinn: are ipods hfs? i thought they were fat(something)
[05:24] <prg> crimsun: I actually got it working.. I was going to ask how to control it using the 'networks' manager in gnome..but it seems everything has to be done manually
[05:24] <locust> Ubuntu > Fedora and Mandriva :)
[05:24] <comradevik> but its never been even plugged in into a mac
[05:25] <comradevik> and before i was able to plug it into ubuntu and chaange stuff
[05:25] <farruinn> nalioth: you may be right, I've never checked
[05:25] <crimsun> prg: that manager isn't wpasupplicant-aware
[05:25] <locust> Loads so fast
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> locust, then what about debian ?
[05:25] <comradevik> but i plugged it with gtkpod on
[05:25] <comradevik> and it messed up
[05:25] <Agamotto> locust:  hear hear
[05:25] <bimberi> thom_: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[05:25] <nalioth> farruinn: most modern ipods (since the switch to usb) are fat based
[05:25] <locust> Did I say something wrong? :X
[05:25] <thom_> ok
[05:25] <Agamotto> wickedpuppy:  Ubuntu is Debian, with a better user experience
[05:25] <jrattner1> How do I get the multimedia keys (Volume Up, Volume Down and mute) work on my laptop keyboard??
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> locust, debian got apt-get and synaptic too :P
[05:25] <sambagirl> is 21 normal ftp port?
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> Agamotto, i know
[05:25] <aji> when dist-upgrade says it's holding back 80+ packages, would that cause a problem?  Or is that normal?
[05:25] <kevogod> Ubuntu is Debian spelled with different letters.
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> pls read his post
[05:26] <locust> Nice :D
[05:26] <prg> crimsun:  Yeah.. oh well.  Hopefully next time.  I have another question, however.  I notice that the speed that firefox reads webpages is rather slow.  Much slower than windows.  Is there a bandwidth setting that can fix this?
[05:26] <locust> I'm too n00by to use Debian
[05:26] <XiCillin> haa
[05:26] <kevogod> Well, they both use the letter "b".
[05:26] <crimsun> prg: nope.
[05:26] <thom_> bimberi: it started in kde, evolution would crash and now it wont go back to ubuntu, it is stuck on the drum beat repeating
[05:26] <crimsun> prg: are you connected to your AP at the max rating?
[05:26] <farruinn> locust: don't give us that, debian was my first :P
[05:27] <Agamotto> prg:  enter about:config in the url entry box, then search for ip6.... turn off the ip6 dns find, it speeds things up quite well
[05:27] <locust> hehe
[05:27] <XiCillin> red hat 9 :?
[05:27] <XiCillin> SUCKED
[05:27] <XiCillin> my first^
[05:27] <prg> crimsun: Okay, I'll try it..
[05:27] <thunderguy> When I installed Ubuntu, I had to use expert install to correct lockup problems in the traditional installer, as you know the expert install doesn't use sudo and creates a root account, after I finished the install I created a user, that user is missing rights to read cd-roms, play audio files, etc, know how I might extend a users rights without having to go hunt down and chmod every file I would need?
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> thunderguy, have you tried system -> administration -> users and groups ?
[05:28] <thom_> invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[05:28] <bimberi> thom_: huh, i thought all you wanted was to change your display manager, you can try my suggestion in a console <ctrl><alt>F1, then sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[05:28] <nevyn> thunderguy: add the user to the appropriate grous
[05:28] <nevyn> thunderguy: add the user to the appropriate groups
[05:28] <thunderguy> wickedpuppy: I ended up switching to KDE to correct gnome problems.
[05:28] <crimsun> thunderguy: your user needs to be in the following groups: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[05:28] <thom_> bimberi: yes im hoping that might help
[05:29] <thunderguy> crimsun: thanks.
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> thunderguy, groups and users are not gnome problem :P
[05:29] <nevyn> thunderguy: you may also wish to consider adding your normal user to sudoers and locking root
[05:29] <escobar5> hello, i still cannot write my fat partition with a regular user, any ideas???
[05:29] <thunderguy> wickedpuppy: Gnome stopped working one day, actually every desktop didn't work. but at the time most of the blame fell on Gnome.
[05:29] <prg> crimsun: sorry, I am not sure how to tell
[05:30] <prg> agamotto: You know, I don't have that setting in there.  is it common to al Firefox versions?
[05:30] <thunderguy> nevyn: Yeah I added him to sudoers.
[05:30] <thom_> bimberi: im in xfce, icant seem to load ubuntu, it has the kubuntu background, not the background i set
[05:30] <wickedpuppy> escobar5, type mount ...tell us the line you see vfat
[05:30] <nevyn> thunderguy: then lock root
[05:30] <imajuchi> wickedpuppy i will have to log out off my normal user account but if i see you later or tomorrow i will let you know where i m getting stuck
[05:30] <nevyn> passwd -l root  from memory
[05:30] <imajuchi> thank you and everyone else here
[05:30] <zoexii> hello, how do I get grub to recognize and configure my windows installation on 'hdb'?
[05:30] <wickedpuppy> imajuchi, okie ... why you need to lock out btw ?
[05:30] <escobar5> wickedpuppy, /dev/sda5 on /mnt/archivos type vfat (rw)
[05:30] <Agamotto> prg:  It should be... I know you enter about:config in the url bar... and then a page comes up with all sorts of options
[05:30] <imajuchi> paranoia :)
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> escobar5, if its mounted with rw options ... users should be able to read write
[05:31] <thunderguy> nevyn: I'm going to, right now I sort of need root since user priveledges are few.
[05:31] <thom_> bimberi: im not sure what to do but reinstall ubuntu desktop or remove kubuntu. i dont want to do either
[05:31] <prg> Agamotto: Yes, I see the page with a long list of options.  But when I search for ip6 i get nothing.. is it under another name perhaps?
[05:31] <bimberi> thom_: sry, i'm afraid that's a bit beyond me :/ (changing display manager was in my league)
[05:31] <escobar5> wickedpuppy, but the only user i can do that with, i root
[05:31] <Agamotto> prg - ipv6, my bad
[05:31] <thom_> bimberi: my wireless also went beserk. thanks anyway
[05:32] <qmanman|away> zoexii: add it to /boot/grub/menu.list
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> escobar5, add the user to adm and admin groups
[05:32] <farruinn> nalioth: if iPods are fat based now Apple does some magic to hide it because when I mount mine on OS X it identifies as hfs+Journaled
[05:32] <zoexii> qmanman|away:  I try this,
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> try that out ... my normal user has those groups added in
[05:32] <nalioth> farruinn: how old is your ipod? the older ones are hfs-based
[05:32] <escobar5> wickedpuppy, already there
[05:32] <zoexii> qmanman|away, and it does not work.. however disconnecting hda and switching jumpers on 2nd drive, windows still works,
[05:33] <farruinn> nalioth: 30 GB iPod Photo, came with a USB cable
[05:33] <prg> Agamotto: wow.. that worked quite nicely.  Thanks!
[05:33] <Agamotto> As a rule, if the iPod has Firewire, it is hfs+, if it has USB, it is some hybrid of Ext2 and Fat32, if memory serves
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> escobar5, can you do ls -l /mnt/archivos ?
[05:33] <qmanman> zoexii: are you sure you added it to menu.lst right?
[05:33] <nalioth> farruinn: interesting, must be the newer ones, then
[05:33] <escobar5> wickedpuppy, yes
[05:33] <ilba7r> !opera
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> are there rw permission for users ?
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> owner should be root ...
[05:34] <prg> Question for anyone:  Is there another URL for the multiverse repositories or are they all down currently?
[05:34] <qmanman> zoexii: you should run "sudo update-grub" as well
[05:34] <imajuchi> kickedpuppy, do you know how can i change the permission of my fireawire so i can edit as normal user?
[05:34] <jason0_> Anyone used the e17 repositories and gotten e17genmenu to install?
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> firewire ?
[05:34] <jason0_> for breezy of course.
[05:34] <zoexii> qmanman, no,  what I do know is that after adding the windows option to the file, when I select it at startup, the commands I added appear and everything hangs... I have to do a hard re-boot
[05:34] <ilba7r> firefox is shutting down unexpectdly now days is there any other one someone could recommend
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> isn't it the cable ?
[05:34] <imajuchi> yeas
[05:34] <thunderguy> What's weird is, I have no sound as normal user, I'm in the group 'audio' and root has sound, but I don't have sound hrm.
[05:35] <imajuchi> i mean yes
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> imajuchi, you want to edit the physical cable ?
[05:35] <madsen> thunderguy: Turned up the volume?
[05:35] <imajuchi>  but i can only use kino as a sudo
[05:35] <Agamotto> prg:  They all seem to be fubar atm
[05:35] <imajuchi> no
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> i am confused
[05:35] <starscalling> yay
[05:35] <imajuchi> video using kino
[05:35] <zoexii> qmanman, will try that,  is there a good tutorial on how to do this right?  I don't understand what 'chainloader +1' and things are supposedc to mean.
[05:35] <imajuchi> the video capture program
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> imajuchi, never use that before
[05:35] <thunderguy> madsen: Yeah, its up, my testing is that I played an audio cd as root, and played the same cd as user, and it works as root and as user it is entirely muted.
[05:35] <escobar5> wickedpuppy, so, what do you think it can be?
[05:35] <starscalling> ok so ive got ubuntu-desktop in, and kubuntu-desktop in
[05:35] <imajuchi> oh ok
[05:35] <imajuchi> :)
[05:36] <starscalling> how stable is that xubuntu-desktop?
[05:36] <thunderguy> the sound mixer settings show it isn't supposed to be muted.
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> escobar5, do you have the permission for group or others to rw ?
[05:36] <qmanman> zoexii: I've not found a goot tutorial yet, you can check www.tldp.org
[05:36] <madsen> thunderguy: Well, users have their own mixers... Try logging in as the user with no sound and check the mixer settings.
[05:36] <qmanman> zoexii: there are a lot of options in there that you dont need to know about anyway
[05:36] <escobar5> wickedpuppy, i tried to do that, but it doesn't change
[05:36] <thunderguy> madsen: I am that user, mixer settings are all on full
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> escobar5, what you type ?
[05:37] <madsen> thunderguy: Odd... Try playing some wav/ogg/mp3 from cmd-line with play/mpg321/ogg321...
[05:37] <escobar5> wickedpuppy, chmod -R 777 /mnt/archivos
[05:37] <zoexii> qmanman, so root should be (hd1,0) right?
[05:37] <thunderguy> madsen: I don't know any files unfortunetly.
[05:38] <thunderguy> madsen: I only have CDA
[05:38] <wickedpuppy> escobar5, what error you got ?
[05:38] <zoexii> qmanman, If windows is on the slave hd, on the only available partition.
[05:38] <Agamotto> thunderguy:  try this... go to the System menu -> Sound, and unclick sound server startup
[05:38] <madsen> thunderguy: Just find some wav with google... There are plenty small ones around. :)
[05:38] <escobar5> wickedpuppy, i don't get a message, it just dont change anything
[05:38] <qmanman> zoexii: sounds right, windows is on a second hard drive?
[05:38] <Agamotto> thunderguy:  It has cleared up all sorts of problems for me when running Realplayer while doing other a/v stuffs
[05:38] <wickedpuppy> escobar5, nothing ? and you get back the prompt ?
[05:39] <thunderguy> Agamotto, happen to know the KDE equivelent?
[05:39] <escobar5> wickedpuppy, yes
[05:39] <crimsun> thunderguy: there are wav files in /usr/share/sounds/
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> funny ...
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> i swear something is wrong ...
[05:39] <qmanman> dcc zoexii
[05:39] <prg> can someone answer a question about video playback in breezy?
[05:39] <madsen> thunderguy: Or go to http://krecs.com/html/artists/media.php?interest=12 and grab a track. ;)
[05:39] <jrattner1> Is there an ndiswrappers and breezy howto or wiki page thingy?
[05:39] <zoexii> qmanman, yes, second hard drive, installed on the first and only partition... what do I do about the 'kernel' command? leave it out?
[05:39] <Agamotto> thunderguy:  Under the control panel, try sound/mixer
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> first ... are you log in as root ? i see you don't do sudo
[05:39] <madsen> thunderguy: Right, /usr/share/sounds :)
[05:39] <Agamotto> prg:  Will try
[05:39] <qmanman> zoexii: I dont have a "kernel" command
[05:39] <escobar5> wickedpuppy, yes
[05:40] <qmanman> zoexii: join #flood
[05:40] <don> can someone help me get mp3 playback working?
[05:40] <crimsun> don: do you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed?
[05:40] <zoexii> qmanman, what is #flood?
[05:40] <madsen> don: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats I think. :)
[05:40] <prg> Okay, well I downloaded the w32codecs and installed all the plugins (except for those on multiverse) and so far I can get WinMedia player files to play only the frist 3 seconds, and quicktime files will not play at all... any experience with this?
[05:40] <qmanman> zoexii: a channel where you can paste test without being banned
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> escobar5, can you just do chmod 777 /mnt/archivos
[05:40] <thunderguy> hrm, ogg321 not found, play not found.
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> escobar5, can you just do chmod 777 /mnt/archivos ?
[05:40] <Agamotto> zoexii:  A place to post long messages, files, etc...
[05:41] <kingright>     hi all
[05:41] <wickedpuppy> see if you can change the permission of that dir alone
[05:41] <qmanman> err text
[05:41] <madsen> thunderguy: well, apt-get install ogg321 then. :)
[05:41] <don> thanks
[05:41] <escobar5> wickedpuppy, yes, nothing
[05:41] <thunderguy> madsen: apt-get is locked, but it shouldn't be locked o.O
[05:41] <madsen> thunderguy: 'sudo apt-get install vorbis-tools' actually. :)
[05:41] <garrett> i am setting up ubuntu and trying to mount my second harddrive. how do i check the names of drives? i assumed it'd be hdb but mount says that isnt a device
[05:41] <madsen> thunderguy: Got synaptic open somewhere?
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> escobar5, can paste to me in pm your lines? pm me
[05:42] <thunderguy> vorbis-tools is already the newest version.
[05:42] <blackthorne> grrrrr... i wanted to edit my xorg.conf file but i can't! Ubuntu keeps on overwriting the old version each time i restart. i've read the comments about sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg but still can't make this "simple" task
[05:42] <thunderguy> madsen: nah, it cleared up though.
[05:42] <madsen> thunderguy: wtf?!? What happened to ogg123?
[05:42] <thunderguy> madsen: no clue
[05:43] <don> how do i install gstreamer0.8-mad?
[05:43] <madsen> thunderguy: Try 'apt-cache show vorbis-tools'... It _should_ contain ogg123 (?)
[05:43] <thunderguy> It says it does contain it.
[05:44] <Agamotto> feh
[05:44] <madsen> thunderguy: Oh, btw, did you notice '123', not '321' as I said first.
[05:44] <Agamotto> Sounds like things have been moved around quite a bit
[05:44] <crimsun> thunderguy: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:44] <thunderguy> madsen: ah, yeah you said 321 earlier, but it has 123
[05:45] <madsen> thunderguy: Ok, what happens when you try to play an ogg with it? ('ogg123 file.ogg')
[05:45] <thunderguy> ogg123, playing Kopete_Received.ogg, Locks up, C-c doesn't quit either.
[05:45] <madsen> :O
[05:45] <Agamotto> madsen:  I wonder if the sound server is competing with something else?
[05:45] <madsen> thunderguy: That's fscked up!
[05:45] <bimberi> don: gstreamer0.8-mad is in the universe repository
[05:46] <jrattner1> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686-smp/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko':
[05:46] <jrattner1> where can i find ndsiwrapper.ko?
[05:46] <madsen> Agamotto: Yeah, might be esd and something else fighting over it...
[05:46] <Agamotto> jrattner1:  It should be with the ndiswrapper kernel module.... hrm
[05:46] <jrattner1> Agamotto, ??
[05:47] <madsen> Btw, anyone got beagle working?
[05:47] <crimsun> thunderguy: I'm still waiting.
[05:47] <Agamotto> jrattner1:  To work properly, the ndiswrapper has to insert a module into your kernel.  It sounds like this module isn't getting loaded into your kernel
[05:47] <Agamotto> jrattner1:  Problem being, I am not schooled in how to fix this...
[05:48] <jrattner1> Agamotto, ahh
[05:48] <jrattner1> times like this you wish naolith was awake
[05:48] <Agamotto> jrattner1:  As a joke, enter a terminal, and try this - modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:48] <unamaus> ok im new to this but i have a problem
[05:48] <Agamotto> unamaus:  Go ahead
[05:48] <brosioz> anyone could see cctv5 on linux with vlc ? or any video stream like pplive ?
[05:48] <unamaus> i have a network that shares a dsl
[05:49] <jrattner1> Agamotto, I get that error message when typing modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:49] <thunderguy> crimsun: sorry I went and grabbed a soda real fast
[05:49] <Agamotto> jrattner1:  Ok, something is definetly keeping the module from loading....
[05:49] <unamaus> i have a server that i want 2 particular ubuntu machines to view a site from but not be able to go online
[05:49] <comradevik> /dev/sda2 /media/ipod vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=100$
[05:49] <comradevik> it says its rw right? but it doesnt let me chmod it
[05:49] <crimsun> jrattner1: it definitely exists in that package.
[05:50] <jrattner1> crimsun, then why isnt it working?
[05:50] <crimsun> jrattner1: you need to sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)
[05:50] <thunderguy> crimsun: It's in the pastebin
[05:50] <blair_> I FIGURED IT OUT!!
[05:50] <jrattner1> crimsun, ok im doing it now
[05:50] <madsen> crimsun: What would reinstalling the kernel help?
[05:51] <blair_> my wireless would not come up because FOR SOME REASON the WEP key type was set to ASCII instead of HEX
[05:51] <jrattner1> crimsun, its done, now what should i do modprobe it again?
[05:51] <crimsun> jrattner1: sudo depmod -ae
[05:51] <blair_> something is wrong with the network setup tool if it's not storing that properly in the setup files
[05:51] <jrattner1> crimsun, ok done
[05:51] <daskog> hehe...
[05:51] <crimsun> jrattner1: now try it again
[05:51] <daskog> todays is my first linux experience ever!
[05:51] <crimsun> madsen: he needs to restore the actual module
[05:51] <blair_> and, for some reason, the network setup tool takes about 5 minutes to start now...whacky
[05:51] <jrattner1> crimsun, no error, how can i make sure it loaded
[05:51] <crimsun> thunderguy: mute 'IEC958'
[05:51] <crimsun> jrattner1: it is loaded.
[05:52] <daskog> ubuntu is slow lol
[05:52] <logikal> How can i install my printer?
[05:52] <qmanman> what frontend does debconf use in ubuntu?
[05:52] <Agamotto> unamaus:  A bit beyond me, but I think you could set a router rule that would direct the ip from each box to the ip of the site you wish the two machines to see
[05:52] <unamaus> so basically i need to configure these two computers to only see this server's site
[05:52] <madsen> jrattner1: You can 'lsmod | grep <module name>' and see if it turns up.
[05:52] <madsen> crimsun: Hmm, ok. :)
[05:52] <blair_> <---will hack wireless interfaces for connectivity
[05:53] <unamaus> ah ok so i can't config the browser (firefox) to just point to the site and no other
[05:53] <blair_> wanted to hack mine with a spoon a while ago
[05:53] <qmanman> unamaus: dont give the PC's a DNS server IP and add the address for the site in /etc/hosts
[05:53] <Agamotto> uamaus:  Yes.  I am not sure how, but I know you can set a rule/s for the router that allows these two machines to 'see' just that site
[05:53] <thunderguy> crimsun: IEC958 doesn't have the mute option, however I dragged the volume control to 0%
[05:53] <Agamotto> qmanman:  thank you
[05:53] <unamaus> ok
[05:53] <crimsun> thunderguy: actually you can mute it
[05:53] <jrattner1> What is the name of the wireless network management tool new for breezy
[05:53] <unamaus> hehe guess i'll have to buy another router
[05:53] <crimsun> amixer sset 'IEC958' off
[05:54] <blair_> unamaus, i missed the question, could you repeat it (i have some repressed routing memories)
[05:54] <Agamotto> logikal:  Start of with printer model, and what physical connection
[05:54] <qmanman> unamaus: are the PC's using DHCP?
[05:54] <thunderguy> crimsun: done
[05:54] <unamaus> the current network setting is on DHCP
[05:54] <blair_> jrattner1, iwconfig?
[05:54] <blair_> there's a suite of tools
[05:54] <unamaus> with the 2 particular ubuntu machines i want them only to point to this one server within my network
[05:55] <jrattner1> theres a new tool, allows you to manage wireless netwroks from the taskbar in gnome
[05:55] <blair_> man iwconfig will point to the rest, i believe
[05:55] <jrattner1> i forget the name of it
[05:55] <crimsun> thunderguy: what tool were you using to test audio?
[05:55] <unamaus> the rest of the machines i want to be able to go online
[05:55] <qmanman> unamaus:kill DHCP, manually config the PC's IP address's and and setup /etc/hosts properly
[05:55] <bimberi> jrattner1: network-manager?
[05:55] <logikal> is there a tool to do it?
[05:55] <jrattner1> bimberi, no a new one
[05:55] <bimberi> jrattner1: ah
[05:55] <qmanman> is network manager available for ubuntu?
[05:55] <Agamotto> logikal:  Yes, but knowing this info will help us direct you
[05:55] <blair_> System->Administration->Networking
[05:55] <unamaus> qmanman so no need to do any rules for router?
[05:55] <jrattner1> it shows avaiable wireless networks in the gnome taskbar
[05:55] <thunderguy> crimsun: KsCD
[05:56] <logikal> Ok
[05:56] <bimberi> qmanman: in breezy yes
[05:56] <jrattner1> some one was showing it to me before i forget what its called....
[05:56] <logikal> I have a HP deskjet 5950
[05:56] <crimsun> thunderguy: err...
[05:56] <logikal> connected with USB
[05:56] <crimsun> thunderguy: I presume you're using KDE and not GNOME?
[05:56] <qmanman> unamaus: well you could do it that way, but I think it might be harder
[05:56] <Agamotto> unamaus:  His route will probably be better than mine, follow his advice
[05:56] <blair_> there's also a GUI networking toolset at Applications->System_Tools->Network_Tools
[05:56] <unamaus> cool i'm using breezy so should be less problematic
[05:56] <blair_> ping and whatnot
[05:56] <qmanman> unamaus: I  guess you could use the router to restric access, but to me thats the hard way
[05:56] <subzero440> is there an available update now for OpenOffice 2 for ubuntu?
[05:57] <Agamotto> logikal:  System -> Administration -> Printing.... click on new printer
[05:57] <thunderguy> crimsun: yes, I have a lot of problems with gnome, I had to uninstall it, and reinstall it, and it still wasn't working right, but after I installed KDE and got it working I just didn't go back.
[05:57] <blair_> sub...don't think so but i haven't checked today
[05:57] <unamaus> cool so hopefully i'm on the right track, server is on a unique ip outside of router's ip assigning range so just force ubuntu machines to static ip sequence with unique server ip?
[05:57] <Agamotto> subzero440:  It most likely will take a week or two for an official .deb to come out
[05:57] <thunderguy> crimsun: and this was on a fresh ubuntu install that gnome wasn't co-operating, so It has been a very long day.
[05:57] <bimberi> subzero440: sortof, 00o2 is available from a test repo ...
[05:57] <bimberi> !ooo2
[05:57] <ubotu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[05:57] <logikal> Agamotto,  NOT Seeing administration!
[05:58] <starscalling> btw
[05:58] <logikal> Im on KDE
[05:58] <logikal> sorry :\
[05:58] <Agamotto> logikal:  Hrm, I am not sure what it would be under with KDE
[05:58] <starscalling> dont use konquerer for speedtests
[05:58] <qmanman> unamaus: well I mentioned static IP's for the workstations just cause I'm not sure if you can stop your router from handing them DNS info via DHCP
[05:58] <starscalling> it SUCKED
[05:58] <Abysmal> evening all.. I have a question about configuration.. I am trying to change the ip of my maching that was originally set for dhcp to a static ip.. but in the system settings I cant edit anything and the admin button is not on the screen.. I am using kubuntu 5.10.. any ideas??
[05:58] <adriyel_> hi
[05:58] <adriyel_> I have a question
[05:58] <blair_> starscalling, what sucked?
[05:58] <starscalling> well
[05:59] <unamaus> ah k gonna try it out
[05:59] <unamaus> thank you qmanman
[05:59] <qmanman> unamaus: no prob
[05:59] <blair_> anyone have any idea why the network admin tool takes 4 minutes to start when clicked?
[05:59] <starscalling> i did speedtest in konquerer and got 4656kbs down 79kbs up
[05:59] <adriyel_> can anyone tell me why my computer hard freezes whenever I resize a window in Gnome? this is breezy btw
[05:59] <blair_> what's it timing-out on?
[05:59] <starscalling> did same test in firefox and got about the same down and 659kbs up
[05:59] <starscalling> er
[05:59] <starscalling> 359kbs up
[05:59] <blair_> adriyel_, sounds like a video-card issue
[05:59] <starscalling> which was rather disturbing
[05:59] <qmanman> unamaus: just add a line in your /etc/hosts like "192.168.1.24 myserver"
[05:59] <adriyel_> Blair, should I install nvidia-glx?
[06:00] <madsen> blair_: Hehe, mine did that too... It's so weird...
[06:00] <blair_> adriyel_, i have no idea
[06:00] <adriyel_> I've got a GeForce 6800GT
[06:00] <blair_> i haven't had any video probs in breezy
[06:00] <adriyel_> are you sure its video card related?
[06:00] <blair_> sounds like it
[06:00] <adriyel_> what kind of video card do you have?
[06:00] <qmanman> is anyone using network manager in here on Breezy?
[06:00] <unamaus> qmanman cool thanks
[06:00] <jrattner1> Blair, its something else, new
[06:00] <blair_> redrawing blocks can be a video-card process rather than a cpu task
[06:00] <qmanman> unamaus: let me know how it goes
[06:00] <adriyel_> jrattner1, you referring to my problem?
[06:00] <blair_> jrattner1, hmm...those are the two i've been using, along with iwconfig and ifconfig in the terminal
[06:01] <unamaus> yeehaaa! work!!!!
[06:01] <unamaus> hehe finally
[06:01] <qmanman> unamaus: did it? nice
[06:01] <unamaus> yes like a charm
[06:01] <unamaus> wow so simple
[06:01] <adriyel_> does anyone have a clue relating to my problem?
[06:01] <unamaus> was afraid i had to go buy something
[06:01] <qmanman> unamaus: yeah you can use /etc/hosts for all kinds of stuff
[06:01] <crimsun> thunderguy: cat /proc/asound/modules
[06:01] <adriyel_> nalioth, are you afk?
[06:02] <qmanman> unamaus: you can even block websites from that file
[06:02] <nalioth> nope
[06:02] <blair_> qmanman, what can you use the hosts file for besides associating ip's with aliases?
[06:02] <jrattner1> http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/
[06:02] <wuman> anyone know of any itunes-similar music players for ubuntu?
[06:02] <qmanman> unamaus: "www.sex.com 127.0.0.1"
[06:02] <unamaus> qmanman thanks again
[06:02] <qmanman> yup
[06:02] <unamaus> hmm do i really want to block that?? hehe
[06:02] <thunderguy> crimsun: 0 snd_intel8x0
[06:03] <blair_> gotta run...be back later
[06:03] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, I don't currently have access to my Ubuntu machine's screen; how do I obtain it's IP address in order to log into it remotely.  The machine is on my home network.
[06:03] <nalioth> blair_: a hosts file can 98% free you from ads and blight
[06:03] <Agamotto> adriyel_:  Do you know what driver you are running?  The commercial nvidia one, or the one that comes with Breezy?
[06:03] <jrattner1> Blair, http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/
[06:03] <crimsun> thunderguy: in your arts configuration in KDE's control center, make sure you set arts to release the sound device after 2 idle seconds
[06:03] <unamaus> well gotta go now since that was solved i can take a long lunch
[06:03] <starscalling> has anyone else had that problem with konquerer? it giving false speedtest ratings or the like?
[06:03] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: you are in a classic catch-22
[06:03] <crimsun> thunderguy: then in KsCD, make sure you use digital audio extraction in the options instead of analog
[06:03] <unamaus> cya and take care everybody!
[06:03] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Uh oh.
[06:04] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, See, I've just installed gdm and now my Mac's screen is dark when I reboot.
[06:04] <HaroldJohnson> So I can't see anything.
[06:04] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: so ctrl-alt-f3, log in and type ifconfig
[06:05] <vnpaven> "Cannot launch entry
[06:05] <vnpaven> Details: Failed to execute child process "Terminal" (No such file or directory)"
[06:05] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, That's not doing it.  Still dark.  Hm...
[06:06] <mebsd> anyone know a good free web hosting
[06:06] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: ctrl-alt-f(1-6) should get you a text terminal
[06:07] <Abysmal> what file do I have to edit to change the machines ip.. ??
[06:07] <vnpaven> When I run Terminal http://www.os-cillation.com/index.php?id=42&L=5 raise error: "Cannot launch entry Details: Failed to execute child process "Terminal" (No such file or directory)"????
[06:07] <nalioth> vnpaven: what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:07] <mebsd> Abysmal: do you have a static or dynamic ip
[06:07] <crimsun> vnpaven: xterminal works just fine for me.
[06:07] <Dr_Fate> iconbox dead as well
[06:08] <Dr_Fate> xffm does not run from the menu, only cli?
[06:08] <thunderguy> crimsun: works o.o, I wonder how ya figured it out.
[06:08] <Abysmal> its dynamic right now, but i want it static and the kde tools don't work..
[06:08] <vnpaven> nalioth: I click Termial and it raise this error
[06:08] <crimsun> thunderguy: I didn't, I knew. That's why I asked for amixer output.
[06:09] <heart_reaver> hi need help on splash
[06:09] <heart_reaver> hi need help on splash
[06:09] <crimsun> vnpaven: what are you trying to do?
[06:10] <crimsun> vnpaven: xterminal from Xfld?
[06:10] <thunderguy> crimsun: Thanks :)
[06:10] <crimsun> thunderguy: np
[06:10] <vnpaven> I am trying to open it
[06:10] <crimsun> vnpaven: are you trying to open it within GNOME or Xfce?
[06:10] <adriyel> ok
[06:10] <adriyel> I think I fixed the crashing
[06:10] <vnpaven> in GNOME
[06:10] <adriyel> however
[06:10] <crimsun> vnpaven: how did you install xterminal?
[06:11] <adriyel> when I run glxgears it appears to be running slow, and it doesn't output the FPS
[06:11] <adriyel> whats going on?
[06:11] <vnpaven> I install it from Add applications
[06:12] <Agamotto> adriyel:  You aren't running the commercial nvidia drivers, I would suspect.  Open Synaptic,and search for nvidia
[06:12] <crimsun> vnpaven: apt-cache policy xterminal. Paste the output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:12] <chris___1> !ubotu java
[06:12] <ubotu> somebody said java was to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[06:12] <vnpaven>  crimsun: thks  alot. Ihave resolve it
[06:12] <chris___1> !javadeb
[06:12] <ubotu> rumour has it, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[06:13] <adriyel> Agamotto, I am running the nvidia drivers
[06:13] <adriyel> I know how to edit the xorg.conf
[06:13] <adriyel> this happened to a friend of mine as well btw
[06:13] <mebsd> anyone know a good free web hosting
[06:13] <Agamotto> Ok, that rules out the obvious
[06:13] <adriyel> similar card, same generation, same distro
[06:14] <Agamotto> I wonder if there is a glitch with the driver and that particular card...  sorry I can't help more.  I am running a Ti4200 here without any problems.
[06:14] <Agamotto> BRB
[06:15] <adriyel> GeForce 6800GT here...
[06:15] <bacc> does ubuntu have gcc installed by default?
[06:15] <adriyel> didn't have any problems with this in Blag btw...
[06:15] <crimsun> bacc: no
[06:15] <bacc> crimsun, ahh ok. so no ability to compile programs by default at all?
[06:15] <nalioth> adriyel: <ahem>
[06:16] <crimsun> bacc: nope.
[06:16] <bacc> k, thanks
[06:16] <adriyel> nalioth, hola, wanna help me? I'm on Breezt
[06:16] <adriyel> Breezy
[06:16] <menator> anyone running banshee on breezy without dbus errors at startup?
[06:16] <nalioth> bacc: you can install 'build-essential' from the cd or network
[06:16] <adriyel> figure I'd give it another whirl, the inherent fedora framework in Blag was making me sick
[06:16] <nalioth> adriyel: ask your question to the channel, please
[06:16] <garrett> clean install of Breezy, about to install Apache2. any recommendations on my version of php and mysql?
[06:17] <adriyel> nalioth, already did, the person said "I dunno works for me" then bailed
[06:18] <nalioth> adriyel: that was your cue to ask again (if it had been 5 minutes)
[06:18] <adriyel> nalioth, this situation has also happened with a friend of mine with a similar video card. I installed and configged nvidia-glx. It appears to be working (got nvidia logo @ boot, yadda yadda), but glxgears *appears* to be running slow, and doesn't give any output. If anyone has any thoughts please speak up
[06:18] <alpha> update repos down?
[06:18] <nalioth> adriyel: is dri an option?
[06:19] <gnomefreak> alpha: what repos do you mean?
[06:19] <alpha> the breezy main
[06:19] <alpha> ones
[06:19] <adriyel> I disabled dri, and no, its not something I want
[06:19] <adriyel> I plan on running games on this
[06:19] <gnomefreak> mine work fine
[06:19] <Agamotto> Hallo, again
[06:19] <gnomefreak> are you using the arcive repos alpha?
[06:20] <Davey> I broke it :/
[06:20] <alpha> well their not yours ;-)
[06:20] <adriyel> I'm installing ppracer to test the 3D under diff conditions
[06:20] <alpha> apt-get update is failin
[06:20] <alpha> apt-get update is failing
[06:20] <XiCillin> sweeet i found software for my UPS
[06:20] <adriyel> I have a GeForce 6800GT nalioth, a buddy with a 6600GT had same prob
[06:20] <XiCillin> 5.1 rocks
[06:20] <nalioth> adriyel: i know almost nothing about fixin video
[06:20] <gnomefreak> alpha can you use pastebin to paste the errors your getting please so we can help further
[06:21] <alpha> nevermind
[06:21] <Agamotto> adriyel:  Try this one on the forums... sorry we can't help more
[06:21] <gnomefreak> guess that must have too much work for him :(
[06:21] <adriyel> *bangs head* bugger
[06:21] <adriyel> alright
[06:22] <adriyel> nalioth, Agamotto, I am testing ppracer, will let you know the results
[06:22] <Agamotto> Ok
[06:22] <starscalling> brb
[06:22] <gnomefreak> hb
[06:22] <adriyel> ok
[06:23] <adriyel> here's the dilly nalioth and Agamotto, the problem appears localized to glxgears. Thats the good news, wanna hear the bad news?
[06:23] <adriyel> my audio didn't work in ppracer
[06:23] <Agamotto> frell
[06:24] <adriyel> this doesn't surprise me, as this happens with every...single...gnome based distribution I ever use. lol. I fixed it in Blag, but do you care to offer any suggestions before I dump an hour fumbling around?
[06:24] <Agamotto> Out of my experience
[06:24] <garrett> installing ssh and apache2 now in breezy... do i need to do anything to allow other systems to access port 22 and 80 on this one?
[06:24] <garrett> aside from forwarding the ports on my router
[06:25] <bacc> nalioth, how do i install that off the network (build-essentials)
[06:25] <adriyel> nevermind nalioth I fixed the audio too.
[06:26] <Abysmal> anyone here running the new server version??
[06:26] <adriyel> *whistles* darn, I'm getting good at this methinks
[06:27] <nalioth> bacc: use apt-get
[06:28] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help me with a mplayer plugin problem with Firefox? I can see the video fine. but there is no sound.
[06:29] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Here's a question I've had for a long time.
[06:30] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Whenever I install Ubuntu on this old Mac, the screen is unevenly divided into about 4 parts.
[06:30] <qmanman> anyone have any good resources on Breezy net install?
[06:30] <adriyel> lol, everyone bugs nali. poor guy.
[06:30] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: and how did you fix in on hoary?
[06:30] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, This is resolved by selecting 'no video driver' in BootX....
[06:30] <codebuster> hi
[06:31] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, However, by selecting that, I can no longer see the bootup process.
[06:31] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, The only thing I can see, in fact...
[06:32] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, ...is a blank screen until I get to the wdm.  That's how it was with Hoary...
[06:32] <adriyel> wow, Breezy handles Cool N' Quiet very gracefully
[06:32] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: otw, you get 4x til you get to gdm?
[06:33] <Davey> adriyel, what is that?
[06:33] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, But now, I'm not appearing to reach wdm.
[06:33] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, One sec...
[06:33] <Davey> btw, why don't I get the nice breezy splashscreen on boot?
[06:33] <adriyel> Davey, its just the first OS thats handled the cool n' quiet option on my AMD 3500 without any complaint
[06:33] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help me with a mplayer plugin problem with Firefox? I can see the video fine. but there is no sound.
[06:33] <adriyel> erm, distro/os
[06:33] <Davey> adriyel, ah, cool :)
[06:33] <nalioth> P8ntKid: do you have all your codecs installed?
[06:34] <chris___1> is your volume up and not muted?
[06:34] <Davey> adriyel, even windows didn't?
[06:34] <adriyel> Davey, Win32 required the installation of 2-3 AMD drivers, other Linux distro's were a lost hope
[06:34] <chris___1> do you have alsa?
[06:34] <Davey> wow
[06:34] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, No - when I select 'no video driver', I get a blank (slightly glowing) screen until the wdm.
[06:34] <P8ntKid> nalioth: I have the mplayer codecs installed. I can play the video fine. There just is no sound.
[06:34] <adriyel> if only all Linux distro's could have a mill---erm---billionaire behind them
[06:34] <nalioth> P8ntKid: sounds like you may need to check for absent other codecs
[06:34] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, It's only when I do not select 'no video driver' that I get the uneven 4 images.
[06:34] <jrattner1> When trying to build a package by source, I get this error configure: error: iwlib.h not found. Install wireless-tools.  (Wireless tools is indeed installed though) where is this file located?
[06:34] <Davey> if only all Davey's could have a billionaire behind them.
[06:35] <adriyel> LOL
[06:35] <adriyel> indeed.
[06:35] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: and you cant ctrl-alt-f3 to a text terminal?
[06:35] <adriyel> sabdf. we all love him :)
[06:35] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, No.  Here...
[06:35] <chris___1> P8ntkid:  are your volumes all the way up and do you have alsa?
[06:35] <adriyel> soon as I get this MP3/DVD nonsense sorted out, I'm gonna start theming :)
[06:35] <alpha> where has libdvdcss gone? its not in universe.
[06:35] <starscalling> eh
[06:35] <B_166-ER-X> davey as for the linus splash screen, the problem comes from the too short timeout (wich makes the boot goes the normal black and white way)  on NOT high-end machines
[06:35] <eere> wow - 510 people eh?
[06:35] <starscalling> ok
[06:35] <starscalling> i have no problems with gnnome
[06:35] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, I've just taken off the 'no video driver' so that i can watch the bootup process, and...
[06:35] <nalioth> alpha: it's in !hoary-extras
[06:35] <starscalling> then i install the kde and still everything is great!
[06:36] <alpha> hoary? im in breezy
[06:36] <starscalling> then i installl xubuntu-desktop and it wont work !_!
[06:36] <adriyel> eere, you get used to it
[06:36] <eere> star - I read an interview with the fellow behind gnome  initially, I reallllly hate to say it but he stressed a hard g
[06:36] <Davey> B_166-ER-X, this is an Athlon XP 3200+, I *hope* this qualifies as at least a fairly high-end machine...
[06:36] <eere> ouch
[06:36] <eere> was many years ago though
[06:36] <alpha> im a breezy man.
[06:36] <jrattner1> Where is iwlib.h located?
[06:36] <starscalling> the taskbars crashed on xde and never came back !_!
[06:36] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, ...i can see that the last message is that it is starting up wdm, then quickly i catch a text login prompt before it goes dark.
[06:36] <P8ntKid> chris___1: My volume is all the way up. and i dont know if i have alsa.
[06:36] <B_166-ER-X> davey you would have to find a way to increase the timeout, as for myself, i had this problem with my horay + breezy apt-get install, but i reinstalled breezy with a cd and i have the Usplash now
[06:36] <alpha> ?
[06:36] <adriyel> xde? you mean xfce?
[06:36] <eere> anyone here using ado.net/open office with gnome ?
[06:36] <starscalling> how can i grep my bashlog to find what went in with it so i can do a clean uninstall of packages please?
[06:37] <Davey> B_166-ER-X, hrm, ok
[06:37] <eere> seems to be a safe hovering ground
[06:37] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: i'm still not understanding why you cant hit ctrl-alt-f4 and find a text login screen
[06:37] <B_166-ER-X> Davey,, yeah,  but i'm just saying what i read about it
[06:37] <alpha> where has libdvdcss gone? its not in breezy universe.
[06:37] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, One thing: i know I can access login in the dark (that's how i just displayed wdm, as I had gdm installed before, which also was doing this0
[06:37] <bimberi> ubotu tell alpha about dvd
[06:37] <chris___1> P8ntkid:  type alsamixer at a terimnal
[06:37] <chris___1> them make sure everything is unmuted and turned all the way up
[06:37] <P8ntKid> chris___1: Got it.
[06:37] <eere> nalioth - the fisher price keyboard doesn't have a ctrl-key ?
[06:38] <alpha> why the change? thats less efficent and more trouble.
[06:38] <chris___1> then retry the video and something was low
[06:38] <Agamotto> haahhaha
[06:38] <chris___1> or off
[06:38] <eere> ok, feed esc 27 (dec) and...
[06:38] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Don't know either.  Perhaps xserver-xorg isn't configured properly?  (Just a guess.)  Unfortunatley, i can't my display to run any tests/commands.
[06:38] <adriyel> my gosh...17k pkg's?
[06:38] <nalioth> eere: which kb is that?
[06:38] <bimberi> alpha: it was never in universe or any other official ubuntu repository
[06:38] <eere> oh my, who am I now ?
[06:38] <eere> eere eh ?
[06:38] <eere> ah -
[06:38] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: you should be able to access a console login tho
[06:38] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, If only i could ssh into the machine somehow...
[06:38] <sabistio> is there an easy way to send messages to other users on a system from console?
[06:38] <adriyel> um, how does one go about installing mp3/dvd support nalioth ?
[06:39] <surfdue> hey
[06:39] <SurpriseEnd> hey
[06:39] <surfdue> anyone here good at debian packages?
[06:39] <alpha> yes it was ive been using ubuntu for a year now
[06:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adriyel about mp3
[06:39] <SurpriseEnd> surfdue nope
[06:39] <surfdue> :P
[06:39] <alpha> it was in universe
[06:39] <surfdue> im sure someone is
[06:39] <SurpriseEnd> as if I can speak for 513 + or - 5 during the time while posting this
[06:39] <surfdue> were do i go to submit a debian package to ubuntu apt system
[06:39] <SurpriseEnd> 'At what rate is it dividing Hal ? '
[06:40] <SurpriseEnd> 'Approximately ... plus or minus ... for the time in reporting this' ouch on recursion
[06:40] <surfdue> :)
[06:40] <alpha> i have 5 ubuntu machines in my house all of them play dvds and i got libdvdcss2 from universe repo every time
[06:40] <starscalling> would anyone know how to grep what ive apt-get installed? please?
[06:40] <SurpriseEnd> I'm not sure why I'm here - I have no problems
[06:40] <P8ntKid> How do i identify myself?
[06:40] <SurpriseEnd> authentication is imperative
[06:40] <nalioth> P8ntKid: /msg nickserv help register
[06:40] <melvztechie> guys, i just want to ask if Genius VideoCam Messenger is supported by breezy?
[06:40] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Okay, in the dark I've entered 'sudo apt-get remove wdm gdm'
[06:40] <SurpriseEnd> authenticate now, authenticate now, I said authenticate damn it
[06:40] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, ...and then my password...
[06:40] <crimsun> alpha: I think you meant you got libdvdcss2 from an external repo
[06:40] <alpha> no
[06:40] <alpha> no
[06:40] <SurpriseEnd> augh! - target corba systems gone mad
[06:41] <crimsun> !info libdvdcss2
[06:41] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, So I'll reboot after this and see if I can get back to a quadrupled text prompt.
[06:41] <SurpriseEnd> wow, I just realized, what am I doing augh!
[06:41] <SurpriseEnd> time to go
[06:41] <alekz> anyone knows if there's a realplayer plug in for firefox ?
[06:41] <SurpriseEnd> ewe
[06:41] <SurpriseEnd> ep ?
[06:41] <alpha> i think i know what im doing with my own systems man used debian/ubuntu for many years.
[06:41] <SurpriseEnd> rp ?
[06:41] <SurpriseEnd> ewwwe - watch out on 2p
[06:41] <crimsun> alpha: libdvdcss2 does not exist in universe. Period.
[06:41] <melvztechie> alekz: try mplayer-firefox plugin
[06:41] <SurpriseEnd> rp damn keyboard
[06:41] <SurpriseEnd> that rp and ms joined up
[06:42] <SurpriseEnd> sheesh, I don't want to see the children
[06:42] <alekz> thanks melvztechie
[06:42] <alpha> it did though thats what im saying it did and now it dose not.
[06:42] <SurpriseEnd> that's a marriage odd indeed
[06:42] <SurpriseEnd> like real media didn't suck before
[06:42] <SurpriseEnd> real media has always blown
[06:42] <SurpriseEnd> period
[06:42] <SurpriseEnd> killed the 68030's at first
[06:42] <Agamotto> alpha:  It was most likely removed due to legal pressure
[06:42] <mgwst3> I'm new to Ubuntu and i'm trying to get my scanner working - i've found an installer of sorts but it calls for 'modversions.h' - i've read that 'modversions.h' is not included in 2.6 kernel source is there a way to add it?
[06:42] <SurpriseEnd> I wonder what the lowest system ubuntu is functional for someone on
[06:42] <SurpriseEnd> 75 ? dx4 ?
[06:43] <SurpriseEnd> I'm pushing for 6502.net
[06:43] <SurpriseEnd> can finally break out all that old code
[06:43] <crimsun> alpha: unless you know of some sekrit repo that I don't, it has never been in any Ubuntu repo.
[06:43] <melvztechie> SurpriseEnd: maybe 286:D
[06:43] <SurpriseEnd> ubuntu will stand strong
[06:43] <SurpriseEnd> melvztechie-  no doubt
[06:43] <alekz> melvztechie, E: Couldn't find package mplayer-firefox
[06:43] <P8ntKid> nalioth: I have the mplayer codecs installed. I can play the video fine. There just is no sound.
[06:44] <SurpriseEnd> melvztechie - used to work with someone, make 6 figures +, at home ?  one minimalistic *nix box. well below 75
[06:44] <SurpriseEnd> there never IS any sound
[06:44] <SurpriseEnd> P8ntKid - you have to code that.
[06:44] <Agamotto> SurpriseEnd:  I have managed to get it running on a bunch of Pent 1 60s, thanfully with 128megs or more of ram.... not too bad
[06:44] <SurpriseEnd> get ready for blue screen device driver madness P8ntKid
[06:44] <P8ntKid> SurpriseEnd: ???
[06:44] <SurpriseEnd> jk
[06:44] <SurpriseEnd> I don't know on that p8
[06:44] <SurpriseEnd> was just thinking, sheesh, that would suck
[06:44] <SurpriseEnd> some video codec ?
[06:44] <nalioth> P8ntKid: there are more codecs then the ones for mplayer
[06:45] <SurpriseEnd> can you identify the coding ? / codec ?
[06:45] <SurpriseEnd> myriad(s ? )
[06:45] <SurpriseEnd> a myriad = myriads ?
[06:45] <alpha> omg k you are obviously misinformed or ???? i can prove it with logs audits blah blah  but why waste my time bickering
[06:45] <Agamotto> myriad is already plural, no suffixes needed, just like kudos
[06:45] <SurpriseEnd> that's what I was thinking
[06:45] <SurpriseEnd> indeed
[06:46] <SurpriseEnd> certainly
[06:46] <gnomefreak> can you try apt-cache ing it?
[06:46] <SurpriseEnd> without doubt I agree
[06:46] <SurpriseEnd> a myriad of codecs out there P8ntKid
[06:46] <P8ntKid> nalioth: Im confused. My video works perfect in firefox. Its just that there is no sound.
[06:46] <SurpriseEnd> there never IS any sound P8ntKid
[06:46] <starscalling> *sighs
[06:46] <nalioth> P8ntKid: i personally have never gotten firefox to play anything
[06:46] <SurpriseEnd> wasn't firefox a movie ?
[06:47] <adriyel> nalioth, I love that nirvana called "Just Works"
[06:47] <starscalling> SurpriseEnd would you know how to grep your bash log?
[06:47] <SurpriseEnd> 28,000,000 lines of code
[06:47] <adriyel> MP3 and DVD are confirmed to be functional, as is 3D
[06:47] <SurpriseEnd> the followup to netscape releasing source was
[06:47] <starscalling> mil lines is a butload
[06:47] <nalioth> adriyel: you have msgs
[06:47] <adriyel> plus, I don't have the nasty aftertaste of Fedora nalioth
[06:47] <P8ntKid> nalioth: Then what browser do you use?
[06:47] <adriyel> nalioth, you sent me a /msg I know
[06:47] <SurpriseEnd> even IF MS released 95 OS source, ha, many x 28 million
[06:47] <nalioth> adriyel: if you want 'just works', buy a mac
[06:47] <SurpriseEnd> madness
[06:47] <adriyel> nalioth, just letting you know it works
[06:47] <SurpriseEnd> like anyone even HAS the damn resources to work with MS OS src
[06:47] <nalioth> P8ntKid: i d/l my media and play it locally
[06:48] <SurpriseEnd> anyone here run across the 2k source ?
[06:48] <adriyel> nalioth, did you not see what I said? everything works man, celebration time
[06:48] <melvztechie> alekz: try to search in synaptic" mozilla-mplayer"
[06:48] <SurpriseEnd> that would be entertaining to compile on ubuntu
[06:48] <SurpriseEnd> would have to be through MS I 'suppose'
[06:48] <P8ntKid> nalioth: I cant do that on some sites. Like putfile.
[06:48] <x86i> is there a Gnome utility that allows you to edit what services start when ubuntu is booted?
[06:48] <nalioth> adriyel: great! join #kubuntu-offtopic and teach me
[06:48] <adriyel> teach you?
[06:48] <Madpilot> SurpriseEnd: ubuntu-offtopic for chat, please
[06:48] <SurpriseEnd> yet another of their damn http://research.microsoft.com projectss
[06:49] <iceman64> Anyone here able to do a remote repair job on the sessions manager and boot process of a breezy install, i cant start gnome, and i cannot start kde, the sessions manages has them as options, but i choose either and it just returns me to a session login screen
[06:49] <iceman64> if no ones willing to assist, i have to reinstall
[06:50] <x86i> anyone?
[06:50] <nalioth> x86i: please ask functional questions
[06:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell x86i about bum
[06:51] <iceman64> anyone able to do a ssh repair of my system ?
[06:51] <x86i> Thanks, thats what I wanted to know
[06:51] <Agamotto> Well folks, thanks for the exchange of info... time to take my eyes out
[06:52] <iceman64> guess i toast my install... reformat, and reinstall ...
[06:52] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, What command removes wdm (or any other package)?  'apt-get remove wdm'?
[06:53] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help me with a problem i have using the mplayer codec with firefox? I get videos to play fine. But i have no sound.
[06:53] <iceman64> my first disapointment in ubuntu
[06:53] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: correct. use sudo
[06:53] <gnomefreak> does anyone know if they shut art.gnome.org down?
[06:53] <Bite_Me_Bill> gnomefreak, I was there a little bit ago and it was up.
[06:54] <gnomefreak> Bite_Me_Bill, its not even letting me use the gnome art download
[06:54] <x86i> nalioth, apt-get cannot find bum, and I do not see it in any package list
[06:55] <nalioth> !info bum
[06:55] <ubotu> bum: (tool to manage bootup scripts), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 55 kB, Installed size: 348 kB
[06:55] <mgwst3> x86i, i just ran apt-get and found bum
[06:56] <nalioth> x86i: do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[06:56] <x86i> Yeah, for some reason my apt-get cache is old. Found it now.
[06:56] <vnpaven> Can you please give me the /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:56] <gnomefreak> ok it works again
[06:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vnpaven about sources
[06:57] <gnomefreak> nalioth, was the extras repo concidered a backport?
[06:58] <nalioth> gnomefreak: yes it was (and is)
[06:59] <gnomefreak> nalioth, thank you i wasnt sure if i should have added it again no is answer to that ty
[06:59] <qiHEWSfi> i have an absolutely awesome gimp created ubuntu promo background. i need to create a site for gnome-art linking so i can distribute it. what's a good free web homepage service
[06:59] <qiHEWSfi> almost done. just some drop shadows to do
[06:59] <vnpaven> I install 5.10 but some URLs error!
[06:59] <gnomefreak> qiHEWSfi,  freewebs.com or freeservers.com
[07:00] <qiHEWSfi> thankyou. greatly appreciated
[07:00] <bacc> why can't I run "make"
[07:00] <gnomefreak> qiHEWSfi, anytime
[07:00] <Bicchi> Whats the difference between: gksudo and gnome-sudo
[07:00] <nalioth> bacc: install build-essential
[07:00] <vnpaven> Can you please copy and past /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:00] <bacc> thought i did....will look at it again
[07:01] <nalioth> vnpaven: ubotu sent you a private msg
[07:01] <qiHEWSfi> good night. btw to hear some good legal music visit www.shoutcast.com . vlc plays  shoutcast well and fine
[07:01] <gnomefreak> vnpaven, what are the url errors you are getting
[07:01] <vnpaven> ok thks nalioth and ubotu
[07:02] <natecull> Anyone getting this error in apt-get?
[07:02] <natecull> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[07:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell natecull about gpgerr
[07:03] <natecull> thanks
[07:03] <natecull> how often is this happening?
[07:03] <gnomefreak> wtf was he doing to his sources list
[07:03] <mgwst3> I'm new to Ubuntu and i'm trying to get my scanner working - i've found an installer of sorts but it calls for 'modversions.h' - i've read that 'modversions.h' is not included in 2.6 kernel source is there a way to add it?
[07:03] <nalioth> natecull: just since the repos are updating with breezy
[07:04] <natecull> nalioth: I've already updated to Breezy, a week ago. Is this a recurring thing or was it a one-off?
[07:04] <gnomefreak> nalioth,  that vnpaven had 3 sources main, resricted and univers all backported
[07:05] <nitinshantharam> guys i want certain users i add to be "chrooted" or somehting into a directory i choose when they login via sftp - how can i do that?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> this is one of them <vnpaven> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages
[07:05] <phiqtion> how can i get Wine?
[07:05] <bimberi> Bicchi: nothing, following both their trails leads to gksu :)
[07:05] <nalioth> natecull: the servers are throwing fits every once in a while. following the procedure ubotu sent you should fix you up
[07:05] <nalioth> gnomefreak: ouch!
[07:06] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:06] <Bicchi> bimberi: how were you able to "follow their trails" just curious
[07:06] <gnomefreak> nalioth, if im not mistaken after he does the thing ubotu sent him he has to go in and get rid of the cd repo
[07:07] <nalioth> gnomefreak: not really necessary to do that (it helps when you go to install some small thing and are asked for the cd, tho)
[07:08] <natecull> I want the CD in mine, I guess I'll use apt-cdrom to readd it
[07:08] <natecull> hmm
[07:08] <natecull> actually
[07:08] <gnomefreak> nalioth,  when i did it apt-get update started throwing an error or 2 for the cdrom repo
[07:08] <natecull> come to think of it, no I don't, now I've done the upgrade
[07:08] <nalioth> gnomefreak: thats the sign of a bad cdrom
[07:09] <natecull> it saved me from downloading 600MB of packages during the upgrade, but now I'd rather not have to have it in the drive
[07:09] <AMD_Fuji-san> If 1,5 chicken lay 1,5 eggs in 1,5 days how many days will it take for 2 chickens to lay 32 eggs?
[07:09] <gnomefreak> nalioth,  the cdrom was never in the drive
[07:09] <Floid> Two notes...  Anyone else find the fucking lo interface isn't brought up going 5.04 -> 5.10 (leading to all sorts of Gnome hell)? ... and anyone know which package contains the kio_smb libs?
[07:09] <nalioth> gnomefreak: that is why it errored, after you wiped your md5s
[07:09] <nalioth> Floid: please watch your tongue
[07:09] <tritium> Floid, watch your language
[07:10] <Floid> C'mon, it's egregious. ;)
[07:10] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhhhhhh nalioth ty i came in here with the error and some told asked me if i had a cd repo and he told me to delete it
[07:10] <TomT64> hi, what program is in ubuntu's extra repositories or main repositipries for viewing TV through a TV Tuner (ATI PCI)
[07:10] <bimberi> Bicchi: sorry, got called away, i did "which gnome-sudo" to find the command and then file /usr/bin/gnome-sudo (once i knew where it was), similar for gksudo
[07:11] <tritium> TomT64, xawtv, for one
[07:11] <natecull> thanks guys
[07:11] <nalioth> !info xawtv
[07:11] <TomT64> trit: thanks
[07:11] <ubotu> xawtv: (X11 TV application), section universe/x11, is extra. Version: 3.94-1ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 216 kB, Installed size: 700 kB
[07:11] <bimberi> Bicchi: one is a symlink to gksudo, the other is a script which calls gksudo :)
[07:11] <gnomefreak> TomT64, there are a few different kinds of tv viewers
[07:11] <tritium> TomT64, you might also try tvtime and zapping, or "apt-cache search television"
[07:11] <Bicchi> bimberi: i was doing the same thing but i din't bother to check one was a symlink. thanks for the help.
[07:11] <TomT64> thank you
[07:12] <bimberi> Bicchi: er gksu sorry
[07:12] <bimberi> Bicchi: yw :)
[07:12] <gnomefreak> gksu and gksudo dont work for me
[07:13] <bimberi> gnomefreak: "dont work"?
[07:13] <Floid> gf: Try feeding them a command, like 'echo.'
[07:14] <Floid> Though on that note, I notice Metacity's stopped drawing window borders for them for some reason, too...
[07:14] <Floid> Or was that an intentional change?
[07:14] <bimberi> Floid: yeah, i noticed that too :/
[07:15] <Floid> Anyhow, someone just fix the lo bug, please. :)
[07:15] <gnomefreak> gksudo gives me a command not found error or something like that same with gksu
[07:15] <Floid> gf: `gksu ls`
[07:15] <Floid> `gksudo ls` ...
[07:16] <Floid> ...or are you serious? ;)
[07:16] <prg> Hi, can someone answer a gnome panel question?
[07:16] <nalioth> prg: if you ask us
[07:17] <prg> great.. I'm messing with the gnome transparency settings.  The bars go transparent, but parts do not (some sliders, and grabbers and such). Any way to get the entire thing to go transparent?
[07:17] <alekz> hi, im reading a blog at ubuntu-es.org and somebody sent a repo named seveas, it's recommended to add it ?
[07:17] <ICEMAN-AMD64> Question on mounting a dos partition on ubuntu
[07:18] <ICEMAN-AMD64> actualy ones the files copy from winblows .. might be a better time to ask that.. from in ubuntu
[07:20] <LinuxMonkey> Problem: I installed samba via the the systems-->administration-->shared folder option and then I setup a share, however when i try to connect from my laptop it ask for login/pw and wont accept it
[07:21] <adriyel> nalioth, why is the ubuntu official nvidia-glx driver dated?
[07:22] <LinuxMonkey> any idea's?
[07:22] <nalioth> adriyel: no clue
[07:23] <prg> nalioth: did you by chance know how to change the settings?
[07:23] <nalioth> prg: i'm not much on customization of my gui(s)
[07:23] <prg> nalioth: okay thanks
[07:24] <B_166-ER-X> whats the command to install a .tar.bz2 ?
[07:25] <bam_> anyone own a sager 8790?
[07:25] <Davey> bam_, I don't even know what one is :)
[07:25] <bimberi> LinuxMonkey: did you add a samba for the user (sudo smbpasswd -a <user>)?  if not, try that
[07:25] <bam_> massively fast laptop
[07:25] <nalioth> B_166-ER-X: tar.bz2 do not install, open it up and read what commands you inside it
[07:26] <bam_> want to read acpi temperature, any ideas?
[07:26] <Floid> @prg, you probably have to fix the theme somehow.
[07:26] <nalioth> bam_: lm-sensors?
[07:26] <alekz> anyone knows a way to have audio with all my started apps ?
[07:26] <B_166-ER-X> unreal_tournament_2004_patch_v3355_linux_multi-langues_13966.bz2   ...and its not just 'opening'
[07:27] <bam_> didnt see\m to work proper;ly
[07:27] <bam_> didnt find any sensors
[07:27] <Floid> And kdebase-kio-plugins contains kio_smb.*, dur.
[07:27] <bam_> but I can read it in winxp/visual basic program
[07:28] <B_166-ER-X> nalioth ?
[07:28] <Floid> ...Which, delightfully enough, works beautifully, hooray.
[07:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell B_166-ER-X about cli
[07:28] <nalioth> B_166-ER-X: tar xvjf filename.tar.bz2
[07:28] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[07:29] <nalioth> B_166-ER-X: and read what ubotu sent you
[07:29] <gnomefreak> is there a command to get rid of a private message tab in lostirc?
[07:29] <nalioth> B_166-ER-X: this is BASIC *nix stuff
[07:29] <B_166-ER-X> i learned as it goes..
[07:32] <icemilo> how do u compile C in linux?
[07:32] <nalioth> icemilo: first you install build-essential
[07:33] <icemilo> i did :P
[07:33] <icemilo> nalioth: i did install build-essential..
[07:33] <Dr_Fate> xffm does not run from the menu, only cli?
[07:33] <Dr_Fate> iconbox dead as well
[07:34] <nalioth> icemilo: then your open your source pkgs and read what's in them
[07:34] <iceman> ok, is wine install by default, or do i need to download
[07:34] <nalioth> Dr_Fate: use smeg to make menus for them
[07:34] <nalioth> icemilo: you'll need to install it
[07:34] <icemilo> i did install
[07:34] <icemilo> ..
[07:34] <Dr_Fate> nalioth, in xfce4?
[07:34] <nalioth> iceman: youll need to install it
[07:34] <deFrysk> iceman,  apt-get it
[07:34] <iceman> nalioth thanks
[07:34] <nalioth> Dr_Fate: i'm not familiar with xfce4 and it's menu management
[07:35] <rudiross> can anybody tell me howto scale to fit the page when printing??
[07:35] <icemilo> nalioth: gcc -o output input
[07:35] <icemilo> and how to make it run?
[07:35] <alekz> wich is the diference between ap-get and aptitude ?
[07:36] <iceman> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[07:36] <iceman>  .... what do i do now
[07:36] <starscalling> HELP
[07:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell iceman about wine
[07:36] <icemilo> hmm....
[07:36] <nalioth> starscalling: please cut the dramatics
[07:36] <icemilo> tell icemilo about gcc
[07:36] <icemilo> ubotu: tell icemilo about gcc
[07:37] <alekz> ubotu: tell alekz about aptitude
[07:37] <bob2> starscalling: please don't do that
[07:37] <starscalling> i need to know how to install ubuntu again and preserve my user home directory
[07:37] <bob2> starscalling: if you have a specific question, just ask it
[07:37] <bob2> starscalling: is your /home on a seperate partition?
[07:37] <icemilo> hmmmmmmm...
[07:37] <starscalling> installing xubuntu-desktop fatally broke it
[07:37] <iceman> What abount Apt-get install wine ... does not work ?
[07:37] <rudiross> iceman: wine is in uiverse
[07:37] <icemilo> icemilo: it works -_-a
[07:37] <alekz> thanks nalioth
[07:37] <icemilo> iceman: it works
[07:37] <starscalling> how can i check
[07:37] <starscalling> im in tty1
[07:38] <bob2> starscalling: how could it "fatally broke it"?
[07:38] <icemilo> bob2: how to compile C?
[07:38] <starscalling> i cannot log into any gui sessions bob2
[07:38] <bob2> icemilo: that question makes no sense at all
[07:38] <bob2> starscalling: and your solution to that is to reinstall?
[07:38] <icemilo> bob2: ...?
[07:38] <icemilo> bob2: what do u mean?
[07:38] <iceman> i tried apt-get install wine ... i'm going throuth the wiki page on it now
[07:38] <starscalling> i do not know what packages are what
[07:38] <bob2> icemilo: wtf
[07:39] <bob2> icemilo: if you want wine, install the binary package, don't compile it unless you have a specific reason
[07:39] <starscalling> i dont _want_ to reinstall but i dont know what else to do
[07:39] <icemilo> bob2:  -_-??? i am icemilo not iceman
[07:39] <mebsd> what kernel version does ubuntu use
[07:39] <icemilo> bob2: i am different user..
[07:39] <icemilo> bob2: i wanna know how to compile C..
[07:39] <bob2> icemilo: ok, I have no idea what you're trying to do, I missed your question
[07:39] <starscalling> / and /home are on different partitions yes bob2
[07:39] <Myrtti> icemilo: have you heard of nick complete
[07:39] <bob2> icemilo: install the build-essential package
[07:39] <cahoone> hi i'm new in ubuntu and there's no mp3 encoders. how can I get them??
[07:39] <bob2> starscalling: then just tell it to mount /home instead of formatting it
[07:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cahoone about mp3
[07:39] <bob2> cahoone: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:40] <bob2> starscalling: where it = the installer
[07:40] <icemilo> bob2: i did install build-essential
[07:40] <Myrtti> icemilo: it means that you type the first few letters of a nick and press tab (on some irc-clients) and the client completes the nick.
[07:40] <icemilo> Myrtti: i know
[07:40] <icemilo> Myrtti: i am using it right now
[07:40] <dmlinux> nalioth in here?
[07:40] <cahoone> yes bob, entered: sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3 and there's no package
[07:40] <Myrtti> great.
[07:40] <bob2> icemilo: then what is your problem?
[07:40] <nalioth> yes he is
[07:40] <Myrtti> I'm off to see what my cavies are up to
[07:40] <icemilo> bob2: how do u compile .C files
[07:40] <bob2> Myrtti: say hi to them
[07:41] <bob2> icemilo: what are you trying to do? learn how to write C?
[07:41] <starscalling> would you have any other solutions than reinstalling bob2?
[07:41] <icemilo> bob2: no.. -_-
[07:41] <icemilo> bob2: i wrote the program.. how do u compile it now?
[07:41] <GigaClon> make?
[07:41] <nalioth> starscalling: uninstall what you've installed
[07:41] <GigaClon> gcc -c file.c
[07:41] <bob2> icemilo: gcc -o blah blah.c
[07:41] <dmlinux> Anyone have an idea why i follow thhis guide http://www.fs-security.com/docs/faq.php to have firestarter GUI run on login, and it gives me a "INSUFFICIENT PRIVELAGES" error when i log in. and to start firestarter i have to type in my password
[07:41] <iceman> well apt-get install wine does not work
[07:41] <bob2> icemilo: tho this isn't really useful
[07:41] <nalioth> GigaClon: not at the point icemilo is at
[07:42] <rudiross> icemilo, gcco executablname program.C
[07:42] <starscalling> nalioth yeah.. i dont know what all it put in there with xubuntu-desktop so i cant really do that effectively
[07:42] <rudiross> iceman, then ./executablename
[07:42] <nalioth> dmlinux: bc you didnt give it proper priveleges
[07:42] <icemilo> bob:and how do u run it..?
[07:42] <bob2> icemilo: the file will not have a .C extension, tho, that's for objective-C files
[07:42] <dmlinux> nalioth how do i give it proper privs?
[07:42] <bob2> starscalling: finding out what the actual problem is would be a start.  I don't see where you told us what your logs said, or if it affects other users
[07:42] <nalioth> starscalling: hit ctrl-alt-f3, login, install lynx and surf to wiki.ubuntu.com/xubuntu
[07:42] <bob2> icemilo: ./blah
[07:43] <nalioth> dmlinux: i dont know, i dont run root things when i start up my box
[07:43] <dmlinux> nalioth ack
[07:43] <adriyel> wow, creepy. I just made Gnome look like a MAc
[07:43] <iceman> bash: ./executablename: No such file or directory
[07:43] <dmlinux> nalioth when it says username, do i do just my login name , or my name and my boxes name
[07:43] <iceman> fine wine
[07:43] <cahoone> i already typed sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3 (as in the wiki.ubuntu says) but the machine told me: Package k3b-mp3 is not available,
[07:44] <nalioth> dmlinux: your username
[07:44] <Truth> Hello, all.
[07:44] <gnomefreak> isnt the command for build-essentials? sudo apt-get build-essentials?
[07:44] <bob2> cahoone: that means you didn't follow the rest of the page
[07:44] <alekz> nalioth, do u know to way to have sound with all my started apps ?
[07:44] <starscalling> bob2 i dont even know what to look for in the logs nor which logs to check.. nalioth ok ill do that now
[07:44] <bob2> cahoone: k3b-mp3 is in universe, you need to enable it
[07:44] <bob2> starscalling: create another user and see if they are affected
[07:44] <cahoone> oh, ok sorry
[07:44] <gnomefreak> or am i spelling it wrong
[07:45] <cahoone> I'll do it now thanks
[07:45] <starscalling> ok ill try that bob2
[07:45] <dmlinux> nalioth yeah it says i do not have root user priveleges to use Firestarter..
[07:45] <nalioth> alekz: i'm not much on sound, either (i'm pretty boring)
[07:45] <cyberlok> doea anyone know how I would tell some part of ubuntu to reinstall all packages that are installed on my machine... some guy thought he be smart and just delete a file or 2 and now packages are all wierd, but if I can get it to just go through the install proccess it would go through during an normal install I think it would resolve my issue
[07:45] <alekz> :o ok nalioth thanks
[07:45] <nalioth> gnomefreak: sudo apt-get install bleh
[07:45] <dmlinux> Anyone know how to get firestarter GUI to run on login without errors, and asking for passwords
[07:45] <nalioth> dmlinux: perhaps you should approach your goal from another direction
[07:45] <bob2> !+reinstall
[07:45] <ubotu> bob2: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:45] <GigaClon> cyberlok, sudo apt-get -f install?
[07:46] <iceman> ok, how to get wine installed ... dang ...
[07:46] <cyberlok> tried that but it does not cover all
[07:46] <gnomefreak> ok i got it there is no "S" at the end of it
[07:46] <patrick_> apt -get install wine
[07:46] <cyberlok> I been slowly finding and reinstalling each package to get this thing operational again
[07:46] <deFrysk> apt-get
[07:46] <dmlinux> nalioth i know of no other direction
[07:46] <deFrysk> cyberlok, using gnome ?
[07:47] <bob2> cyberlok: a simple awk/shell look would work
[07:47] <GigaClon> cyberlok, use synaptic it should show your broken packages
[07:47] <cyberlok> basically want to be able to say for all known installed packages do a reinstall
[07:47] <TomT64> how do I configure my TV Tuner for video4linux
[07:47] <bob2> cyberlok: e.g. dpkg --get-selections | awk '/installed$/ {print $1}' | xargs sudo apt-get --reinstall install
[07:47] <nalioth> dmlinux: perhaps in system > preferences > sessions, you put "gksudo firestarter" ?
[07:48] <dmlinux> nalioth what is gksudo?
[07:48] <GigaClon> cyberlok, synaptic can show you all the installed packages
[07:48] <bob2> cyberlok: tho test that before trying to run it
[07:48] <dmlinux> nalioth i have sudo firestarter atm :P
[07:48] <nalioth> dmlinux: a gtk frontend to 'sudo'
[07:48] <rudiross> can anybody tell me howto scale to fit the page when printing?
[07:48] <iceman> ok now i got wine downloading ... interesting
[07:49] <dmlinux> nalioth does that prevent asking for a password ?
[07:49] <nalioth> dmlinux: it will prompt you when you log into gnome
[07:49] <dmlinux> nalioth ok , going to try this
[07:50] <x86i> I added a new symlink in rc3.d that points to init.d, how do I refresh so it will show up in BUM
[07:50] <virgo> Hi, is there a key combination to lock the computer?
[07:50] <adriyel> how do I edit the menu in Gnome?
[07:50] <bob2> virgo: you can assign one
[07:50] <bob2> adriyel: install "smeg"
[07:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adriyel about smeg
[07:50] <bob2> virgo: I use the 'pause' key
[07:50] <virgo> Bob2, how?
[07:51] <bob2> virgo: same way you assign any other key: system -> preferencs -> key bindings
[07:51] <virgo> Bob2, thank you.
[07:51] <patrick_> virgo apt-get install smeg
[07:51] <iceman> wow... Wines a big library ...
[07:51] <adriyel> thank you
[07:51] <starscalling> bob2 it seems a new user can access these gui's but some things like the sound card dont work
[07:52] <patrick_> if you feel up to it install the wine cvs
[07:52] <oiuiouoiuoi> jhdskjf
[07:52] <patrick_> it rocks
[07:52] <dmlinux> nalioth that worked, but i have to type in my PW now
[07:52] <patrick_> the new wine supports direct x
[07:52] <dmlinux> nalioth any way to make it not need a password?
[07:52] <muiske01>  /msg nickserv link Muiske knabbel
[07:52] <bob2> starscalling: that's fine
[07:53] <nalioth> dmlinux: there are ways, but they lead to security issues
[07:53] <bob2> starscalling: that just means your user config is messaed up, and means reinstalling would not help
[07:53] <Madpilot> muiske01: you probably want to change your pw now... ;)
[07:53] <dmlinux> nalioth ah nm then
[07:53] <muiske01> That went horribly wrong
[07:53] <dmlinux> patrick_ yes but its cedega i thought, dont you have to pay for wineX2.0
[07:53] <x86i> I added a new symlink in rc3.d that points to init.d, how do I refresh the service list so it will show up in BUM.
[07:53] <starscalling> well
[07:53] <bob2> rc3 is not ever run by ubuntu, fyi
[07:53] <patrick_> no the new regular wine beta supports dx
[07:54] <starscalling> getting rid of all the extra packages would be nice i suppose...
[07:54] <patrick_> cedega does it better
[07:54] <dmlinux> patrick_ hmm apt-get able?
[07:54] <x86i> which rc is run? 1?
[07:54] <patrick_> no
[07:54] <adriyel> dmlinux, you can acquire cedega for free, legally no less. You must compile it from source, from the cvs repository. However, you can automate the process via a script that is available via...tada... www.google.com
[07:54] <patrick_> you have to compile
[07:54] <dnae09> libdvdcss, w32codecs, would really like to find this kind of action
[07:54] <bob2> starscalling: your system will continue to not work unti lyou fix the mess in your homedir, tho, reinstall or not
[07:54] <patrick_> you can also compile cedega for free
[07:54] <bob2> thoreauputic: no more dialup?
[07:54] <dmlinux> adriyel im not that much of a advanced linux user yet
[07:54] <adriyel> ubotu tell dnae09 about restricted formats
[07:54] <starscalling> xubuntu
[07:54] <adriyel> dmlinux, the script automates the process for you, you merely download and run it
[07:55] <bob2> starscalling: xubuntu is just the same as ubuntu
[07:55] <dnae09> yeah restricted alright
[07:55] <alekz> c ya guys
[07:55] <mustard5> cya alekz
[07:55] <starscalling> er right bob2, that was a typo.. perhaps i can clean up the mess..
[07:55] <adriyel> xubuntu is just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop...its just xfce instead of gnome
[07:55] <patrick_> i wish cedega was not needed at all
[07:55] <bob2> starscalling: ok, but removign packages will not fix your problem
[07:55] <starscalling> right
[07:55] <dmlinux> adriyel i have a version of cedega 4.0.1-1 but i dont know how to run the script or w/e
[07:55] <bob2> just wnat to make the clear
[07:56] <starscalling> but reinstalling and keeping only things that matter like irc logs and incomplete files and stuffzorz would be ok
[07:56] <adriyel> ahem... UT2004...Doom3...Quake4...all have Linux natives. Its pretty rare I see the desire to run a windows app that doesn't have a Linux equivalent with the exception of certain games
[07:56] <adriyel> dmlinux, meh? whats the file extension
[07:56] <starscalling> then i KNOW the gnome would work and i just wouldnt bother installing that thing again
[07:56] <starscalling> :/
[07:56] <adriyel> and how did you acquire this? this isn't a script, its prolly a binary
[07:56] <x86i> bob2, if RC3 isn't used by Ubuntu, can you please point me in the right direction on how to add a startup script in Ubuntu?
[07:56] <P8ntKid> Is there anyway to update to breezy from hoary without downloading a CD or something?
[07:56] <dmlinux> adriyel can you point um i have a .tgz. a deb a rpm
[07:56] <bob2> starscalling: you can clean up your home directory without reinstalling...
[07:56] <patrick_> I hate valve for not suporting linux
[07:56] <bob2> x86i: what is the script supposed to do?
[07:56] <adriyel> you have all 3?
[07:56] <adriyel> ok do this
[07:56] <bob2> P8ntKid: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[07:56] <thoreauputic> bob2 this is a shell - very slow on dialup :)
[07:57] <adriyel> open a terminal and cd to the dir its at
[07:57] <nalioth> x86i: system > preferences > sessions?
[07:57] <bob2> thoreauputic: ah :)
[07:57] <iceman>  OK.. question.. once all these c files and .h files for wine download .. when what
[07:57] <dmlinux> adriyel ok gimme a sec
[07:57] <adriyel> sudo dpkg -i nameofcedegafile.deb
[07:57] <patrick_> mustard5 you will be waiting for a while
[07:57] <mustard5> I know :)
[07:57] <thoreauputic> bob2 Just experimenting :)
[07:57] <P8ntKid> bob2: Thanks
[07:57] <patrick_> true combat is a good cs like game
[07:57] <x86i> bob2: The script is to lauch several screens that run game servers in them
[07:57] <adriyel> good...cs-like...game...in one sentence? bizarre.
[07:57] <bob2> x86i: haha, of course
[07:57] <bur[n] er> http://burner.ath.cx/screenshot.png
[07:57] <starscalling> how bob2
[07:58] <starscalling> i dont know what goes where and what is supposed to be associated with what
[07:58] <bob2> x86i: put it in /etc/init.d/, use update-rc.d to add it to /etc/rc2.d/
[07:58] <x86i> ok, so RC2 will work?
[07:58] <bob2> starscalling: wah? /home/you/ is just a bunch of files and directories.  delete whatever you don't want or need anymore
[07:58] <bob2> x86i: no, you don't touch it, you let update-rc.d do it for you
[07:58] <x86i> Where is the update-rc.d located?
[07:59] <bob2> 'which update-rc.d'
[07:59] <bob2> it's a command....
[07:59] <dmlinux> adriyel it seems to be working :)
[07:59] <x86i> gotcha
[07:59] <dmlinux> adriyel nm its an error.
[07:59] <patrick_> yawn
[07:59] <bob2> all it does is add the symlinks for you
[07:59] <dmlinux> adriyel must have a bad copy
[07:59] <adriyel> please /msg me the error
[07:59] <x86i> bob2, so adding the sym links manually will not work, correct?
[08:00] <Myrtti> what's the difference between eclipse-rcp-common and -gcj?
[08:00] <adriyel> schweet, UT2004 works
[08:00] <bob2> x86i: false
[08:00] <bob2> but the fact you have to ask how to do it leads me to believe using update-rc.d will be easier ;)
[08:00] <dmlinux> ariyel oh i dont have libpng3 installed
[08:01] <thoreauputic> bob2 weird stuff happening with apt on my new breezy - I have to apt-get update to use apt-cache; seems to lose all the package lists -  "cannot stat /var/lib/apt/lists" or similar... Any idea what could cause thaat error ?
[08:01] <patrick_> a lot of gentoo users are so dang arragant
[08:01] <dmlinux> ariyel eek now i have a broken package :(
[08:02] <bob2> thoreauputic: does "dmesg" say anything about disk troubles?
[08:02] <thoreauputic> bob2 Oh that sounds ominous :(
[08:02] <adriyel> ...
[08:02] <thoreauputic> bob2: I'll check
[08:02] <adriyel> sudo apt-get install libpng
[08:03] <meff> does anyone know of a way (w/out kernel recompilation) to get ubuntu to use or load a module for my ITE821x chipset? this driver came out in 2.6.13 and it just missed breezy :/
[08:03] <starscalling> hrm
[08:03] <cuTe-girLz> allow....
[08:03] <dmlinux> adriyel it seems to be working but when i type cedega it gives me a whole junk of text, im not sure how to use this to play a game, does it support Battlefield 2?
[08:03] <starscalling> might be easier to move the proggie conf over to new user..
[08:03] <adriyel> dmlinux, meh. Try it. :P
[08:03] <dmlinux> adriyel how ? :(
[08:03] <starscalling> bob2 is it possible to rename a user?
[08:04] <bob2> starscalling: not simply
[08:04] <dmlinux> adriyel hehe like i said im not an advanced user :p
[08:04] <adriyel> you must remember, the framework cedega is based upon, namely, wine. isn't even beta. its alpha
[08:04] <starscalling> darn
[08:04] <adriyel> you can either mount your windows drive, or install it from the cd
[08:04] <thoreauputic> bob2: seems unlikely though - I have hoary on a different partition and it appears fine
[08:04] <bacc> anyone know how i can configure gnome to only let the user access firefox, and nothing else (no shell or terminal, no filesystem, nothing
[08:04] <bob2> starscalling: if you're willing to do something that drastic, then "mkdir ~/old ; mv ~/.* ~/* ~/old" is simpler
[08:04] <bob2> bacc: that would be extraordinarily difficult
[08:04] <patrick_> heh, I broke my gnome somehow when I installed e17
[08:04] <meff> unless firefox had some kinda kiosk-lock-in extension..
[08:04] <bob2> bacc: just not starting gnome would be way simpler
[08:04] <aftertaf> patrick_:  broke, how?
[08:05] <bob2> bacc: run a bare X session with a full-screen firefox window
[08:05] <patrick_> gnome doesn't start
[08:05] <bacc> bob2, really? i just want a "guest" account or something that lets the user use internet, and thats about it...
[08:05] <cafuego_> bob2: Just edit passwd and shadow (and group)
[08:05] <aftertaf> patrick_:  any errors?
[08:05] <patrick_> but I prefer e17
[08:05] <aftertaf> patrick_:  me 2 ;)
[08:05] <dnae09> anyone have a hint of where libdvdcss and w32codecs can be found
[08:05] <patrick_> the x server just restarts
[08:05] <bob2> cafuego_: the username'll be in things like /etc/aliases and crontabs and ...,tho
[08:05] <cafuego_> !dvdcss
[08:05] <ubotu> somebody said dvdcss was install 'libdvdread3' and then run 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[08:05] <dmlinux> adriyel ok its on my windows drive, how can i mount it with cedega
[08:05] <bob2> guess that's not really an issue on a desktop
[08:05] <aftertaf> !tell dnae09 about restricted
[08:05] <patrick_> I could probally fix it
[08:06] <adriyel> sudo mkdir /mnt/crappyos
[08:06] <adriyel> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/crappyos
[08:06] <aftertaf> patrick_:  permission issues somewhere probly. stick withE :)=
[08:06] <cafuego_> bob2: I doubt someone who asks that question has crontabs ;-)
[08:06] <bob2> hehehe, good point
[08:06] <bacc> so what would be the best way to setup a user account where all the user could do is run firefox or some other browser :P
[08:06] <adriyel> sudo cedega "/mnt/crappyos/Program Files/EA Games/blah blah blah"
[08:06] <patrick_> E is going to be awesome when it's released
[08:06] <dmlinux> adriyel ah lemme try that
[08:06] <adriyel> mind sharing that executable dmlinux ?
[08:06] <adriyel>  :)
[08:06] <patrick_> heck it's already awesome
[08:06] <bob2> bacc: simplest would be to create a custom login script for them that only runs a fullscreen firefox
[08:07] <adriyel> I could use it.
[08:07] <cafuego_> patrick_: By then, in 2018, it'll be like an antique.
[08:07] <aftertaf> patrick_:  yup;) on both counts
[08:07] <patrick_> lol
[08:07] <bacc> bob2, ahh ok. and they would not have access to filesystem or anything else? where could i get more info on setting up custom login scripts
[08:07] <cafuego_> patrick_: It's been udner development for night on what, 6 years now?
[08:07] <dmlinux> adriyel what exe?
[08:07] <cafuego_> nigh
[08:07] <xenon_> bob2, where would you put a custom login script like that?
[08:07] <dmlinux> adriyel says my program files is no such dir.. grr, damn you winblowz
[08:08] <bob2> bacc: they'd have access to everything that user normally does (ie read for most of the filesystem, and write only to /tmp and their ~/)
[08:08] <aftertaf> cafuego_:  you seen it recently? they even got a live cd out...
[08:08] <bob2> xenon_: /etc/dm/, I think
[08:08] <adriyel> dmlinux, its your drive, you find the exe, use sudo nautilus....browser to mnt, go to crappyos and find it
[08:08] <cafuego_> aftertaf: No, I got bored with it in 2002, after years of no progress.
[08:08] <aftertaf> lol
[08:08] <dmlinux> adriyel i know where it is , but when i cd over to program files, it says there is no such directory
[08:09] <bacc> hmm, i guess what i'm really looking for is a linux distro that will let me setup a kiosk mode that only has a web browser....
[08:09] <cafuego_> aftertaf: ... and now GNome does a great job, so I doubt I'll switch,.
[08:09] <cyberlok> thanks a bunch guys
[08:09] <adriyel> lol...are you using quotations?
[08:09] <adriyel>  "/mnt/blah"
[08:09] <aftertaf> bacc:  any will, if you know how.
[08:09] <cyberlok> your awk lines and etcwere grat inspiration
[08:09] <adriyel> you have to use quotations because of the spaces in the name
[08:09] <cyberlok> in case anyone else needs to do what I need to do here is the code
[08:09] <patrick_> I'm a reletive noob to linux but I like it because it's light weight with eye candy
[08:09] <adriyel> you could also use tab combined with backslashes or some such nonsense...
[08:09] <cyberlok> dpkg --get-selections | awk '/installed$/ {print $1}' | xargs sudo apt-get --reinstall install
[08:09] <dmlinux> adriyel im confused
[08:09] <cyberlok> upps
[08:09] <adriyel> cyberlok, that is an abomination
[08:09] <bob2> bacc: there is some sort of gnome kiosk mode, but I don't know how secure/advanced it is
[08:10] <patrick_> if I wasn't using e I'd probally use openbox
[08:10] <adriyel> dmlinux, use quotations around the location of the file, spaces break the location, quotations tell it to use the whole thing
[08:10] <adriyel> such as
[08:10] <adriyel> cedega "/mnt/blah"
[08:10] <dmlinux> adriyel gotcha
[08:10] <adriyel> do you know what quotation marks are? ooook. :P
[08:10] <iceman> isnt the media player for linus xmms
[08:10] <bacc> bob2, hmm, would the gnome documentation that comes with ubuntu teach me how to set it up?
[08:10] <adriyel> I still want that bloody .deb file
[08:10] <bob2> iceman: there's lots of media players
[08:11] <bob2> iceman: xmms is an ok music player
[08:11] <patrick_> iceman there's a lot of media players for lin
[08:11] <adriyel> beep-media-player is better @ bob2
[08:11] <bob2> bacc: perhaps; google doesn't show anything obcious in the first few hits
[08:11] <bob2> adriyel: how so?
[08:11] <patrick_> heh, try em all
[08:11] <iceman> bob2 looking for a media player for shoutcast ...
[08:11] <bob2> adriyel: as far as I can tell, it's identical, but with less plugins and anti-aliased menus
[08:11] <patrick_> I prefer xmms myself
[08:11] <adriyel> bob2, how does the fact that its actually still being developed sound?
[08:11] <esc_ape> bmp is where its at
[08:11] <esc_ape> based on xmms
[08:11] <patrick_> iceman use streamtuner
[08:11] <bob2> adriyel: xmms is basically completed, tho
[08:11] <iceman> patrick suggest zmms for shoutcast .. ?
[08:12] <cyberlok> there we go
[08:12] <cyberlok> dpkg --get-selections | awk '{if ($2=="install") print "apt-get -y --reinstall install "$1}' > temp.sh
[08:12] <adriyel> bob2, yeah. but not everyone was happy with it, hence BMP
[08:12] <iceman> patrick streamtuner ... available from apt-get ?
[08:12] <patrick_> yup
[08:12] <adriyel> bob2, understand that I come not from *nix, but from win32...I am a Winamp2 whore./
[08:12] <cyberlok> so now it is actually working and its really getting itself fixed
[08:12] <cyberlok> again many thanks
[08:12] <adriyel> I like small media players that do their job
[08:12] <patrick_> as long as you have your repos added
[08:12] <bob2> hah, small
[08:12] <madsen> Hmm, anywhere I can find a list of packages that _should_ be installed on a mint Breezy installation?
[08:12] <bob2> cplay then
[08:12] <dmlinux> adriyel "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:12] <patrick_> I love winamp too
[08:12] <iceman> patrick "sudo apt-get install streamtuner"
[08:13] <bob2> madsen: apt-rdepends ubuntu-desktop
[08:13] <adriyel> or, I can just ctrl-alt-F1, mpg321 /blah
[08:13] <adriyel> or cplay.
[08:13] <patrick_> iceman yes that's it
[08:13] <adriyel> that too.
[08:13] <patrick_> there's also a streamripper too
[08:13] <dmlinux> adriyel any idea what that means ?
[08:13] <adriyel> but, its a little disconcerting for me, to see music coming seemingly out of nowhere...
[08:13] <bob2> I keep putting off writing a really excellent music player
[08:13] <iceman> E: Couldn't find package streamtuner
[08:13] <madsen> bob2: Hmm, so if I got ubuntu-desktop I can rely on _everything_ needed is installed? (I installed from chroot, which messed up my dbus - I think.)
[08:13] <adriyel> dmlinux, yup. what kind of video card do you have?
[08:13] <bob2> probably because I'd try and then get bored
[08:13] <adriyel> also, have you installed drivers for it?
[08:13] <patrick_> iceman you have to add some repositories
[08:13] <bob2> madsen: yes
[08:14] <bob2> madsen: multiple dbus instances may not work
[08:14] <iceman> ouch ...
[08:14] <dmlinux> adriyel ATI radeon mobility x300 128mb ( i am using my laptop )
[08:14] <adriyel> LOL
[08:14] <adriyel> sorry. this is where I stop
[08:14] <Madpilot> iceman: you need the Universe repo for that one
[08:14] <dmlinux> adriyel PCI-E
[08:14] <adriyel> nvidia is the only choice for Linux
[08:14] <Madpilot> !tell iceman about repositories
[08:14] <iceman> wheres the file for the repo's at . and a line to add
[08:14] <patrick_> open up synaptic and find the add repositories in the menu
[08:14] <adriyel> you are, sorry to say, going to have a REALLY rough time with that ATI card
[08:14] <dmlinux> adriyel not many Nvidea cards for laptops
[08:14] <adriyel> best of luck
[08:14] <madsen> bob2: Hmm, interesting... What should I do then?
[08:14] <adriyel> dmlinux, O RLY?
[08:14] <Madpilot> iceman: you should have gotten a PM from ubotu
[08:14] <adriyel> dmlinux, you didn't look very hard then
[08:15] <farruinn> iceman: /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:15] <iceman> i did
[08:15] <dmlinux> adriyel wow calm down: P
[08:15] <bob2> madsen: I don't know what you're trying to do
[08:15] <adriyel> ubotu tell dmlinux about ati
[08:15] <patrick_> yep that's it
[08:15] <adriyel> have fun dmlinux
[08:15] <adriyel> if those instructions don't work,  I can't help you, haven't used an ATI since the 9500
[08:15] <dmlinux> adriyel Nvidea fan boy i guess ? :(
[08:15] <madsen> bob2: Hehe, sorry, I'm trying to get banshee, gnome-power-manager and beagle to work - all fail with basically the same error...
[08:15] <starscalling> ok
[08:15] <adriyel> no, just don't like the quality of work ATI did on the X'blahs.
[08:15] <x86i> bob2: Thansk for the help. I just went ahead and added them manually, since it was easier. The screens do their job, and I get xterms on a remote server giving me status on the game server.
[08:15] <aftertaf> !start a graphics card war
[08:15] <ubotu> aftertaf: What?
[08:15] <aftertaf> lol
[08:15] <adriyel> NVidia improved greatly with the 6 sries
[08:15] <bob2> madsen: in a chroot? why?
[08:16] <adriyel> 5 sucked
[08:16] <bob2> x86i: rock
[08:16] <adriyel> 4 was ok, but the 9500-9700's were better
[08:16] <adriyel> not a fanboy, just a recognizer of reality
[08:16] <starscalling> ** (gnome-cups-icon:10986): warning **: ipp request fialed with status 1030
[08:16] <dmlinux> Ive never owned a Nvidea card :P and ive had 16 computers ove my liftime
[08:16] <madsen> bob2: I'm not running in a chroot, I installed in one because the guy who burned the ISO for me actually, well, burned the ISO on a disc... (/cdrom/ubuntu_blabla.iso(!))
[08:16] <adriyel> I use what fits my needs, and ATI's abysmally bad Linux support was the catalyst for me
[08:16] <iceman> only been in there changing the repos one time in last release ... not in breezy
[08:16] <starscalling> that was my error bob2
[08:16] <bob2> starscalling: that's not an error
[08:17] <adriyel> dmlinux, thats a shame, NVidia cards have gotten particularly good lately
[08:17] <bob2> starscalling: and would not stop gnome starting
[08:17] <adriyel> the original GeForce's were decent in their day as well (1-3's)
[08:17] <bob2> madsen: you've lost me now
[08:17] <iceman> dang it take a long freeking time for wine to download
[08:17] <bob2> madsen: once you install, you reboot to the system, right?
[08:17] <starscalling> then where can i look bob
[08:17] <dmlinux> adriyel well im a Dell user, and only a select few of their laptops use Nvidea , and those are the heavyweight gaming laptops with 17'' screens
[08:17] <madsen> bob2: I installed Breezy with debootstrap in a chroot from Agnula - and yes, then I rebooted into breezy.
[08:18] <bob2> madsen: right, so we can ignore the chroot thing now?
[08:18] <adriyel> dmlinux, dell user? I see. I'm a .... nothing user. I build my own computers.
[08:18] <patrick_> heh, I built mine too
[08:18] <cafuego_> dmlinux: ATI linux support (high end cards) is woeful at best, whereas nvidia drivers really just work.
[08:18] <dmlinux> adriyel i build Desktops , but im a notebook fan, what can i say :P
[08:18] <adriyel> notebooks. hot. expensive. slow. yay.
[08:18] <HukChobo> dmlinux: the D800 laptop I have has a nvidia geforce fx 5600, so some of their business laptops have nvidia as well.
[08:18] <patrick_> didn't know what the heck I was doing either
[08:19] <iceman> I build this 64 bit amd system ... got to love 64 bit .. although because of memory requirement and the cheepskate i am.. my system hates winblows
[08:19] <madsen> bob2: I'm not sure... It feels like I've missed some configuration at some point, which has messed up, among other things, dbus and my gnome login (which hangs for, like, 10 minutes) on login...
[08:19] <adriyel>  :P I'll believe in mobility when I can use one for one whole workday without plugging it in to a wall (8 hours)
[08:19] <dmlinux> hukchobo yes, but you have to lie and say you are a busines to get them , and i didnt care that much
[08:19] <bob2> madsen: does dbus start without errors on boot?
[08:19] <adriyel> and you can build your own notebooks too btw, it just takes a little more effort
[08:19] <cafuego_> dmlinux: I used to hate nvidia, but after buying an amd64 and noting ati just dod not (at all) have support for 'em... well.. easy choice at that point.
[08:19] <madsen> bob2: Yeah, no problems there...
[08:19] <HukChobo> dmlinux: I didn't have to lie - it is my work laptop
[08:19] <iceman> cool turn on repo's and streamtuner downloading
[08:20] <dmlinux> adriyel actually not so expensive anymore, my lappy doesnt get hot at all, its very fast,
[08:20] <patrick_> nvidia is good about supporting arch's
[08:20] <bob2> madsen: with an empty home dir?
[08:20] <madsen> bob2: But when I start something that uses dbus (like banshee or beagle) then it errors out - one way or another.
[08:20] <cafuego_> dmlinux: You don't have to lie and say you're a business, you just order it online. Dell don't care, they just want your credit card details <heh>
[08:20] <madsen> bob2: Yup, same errors.
[08:20] <adriyel> dmlinux, fast is relative. I expect a lot out of a machine
[08:21] <dmlinux> cafuego_ well online you have to say your a business, i know it doesnt matter, but still
[08:21] <bob2> madsen: anything in daemon.log from dbus when that happens?
[08:21] <dmlinux> adriyel well linux isnt very demanding, so what do you expect alot of ?
[08:21] <adriyel> not so expensive? meh, still expensive to build/buy a laptop that has any degree of speed I'd want
[08:21] <madsen> bob2: Hey wait, I made some slight changes which I haven't tested with a clean $HOME...
[08:21] <cafuego_> dmlinux: So, you're in the business of offering free Ubuntu linux support.
[08:21] <dmlinux> adriyel i could probibly boot this up on my clunker thats in the basement.
[08:21] <adriyel> dmlinux, I'm a gamer, a coder, I work in 3D design....
[08:21] <madsen> bob2: Hmm, I'll check that first and then try logging in as a new user.
[08:21] <adriyel> want more reasons?
[08:21] <dmlinux> cafuego_ lol
[08:21] <adriyel> I use photoshop...
[08:22] <adriyel> dmlinux, from what p2p network did you acquire those executables (.deb) of cedega btw?
[08:22] <dmlinux> adriyel photoshop is nothing anymore.
[08:22] <cafuego_> dmlinux: Why not?
[08:22] <iceman> ok now to point shoutcast to streamtuner what do i do
[08:22] <adriyel> dmlinux, you've never tried to run a filter on a 6 megabit image then eh?
[08:22] <dmlinux> adriyel who said i got it from p2p
[08:22] <adriyel> also, you ever use Bryce, 3dsmax, or Maya?
[08:22] <adriyel> dmlinux, thats usually the method of acquisition
[08:22] <cafuego_> adriyel: 6Mb?
[08:22] <cahoone> hi, i just downloaded RealPlayer as said in the Wiki and there is a depencies error
[08:22] <cafuego_> adriyel: Try 250MB
[08:22] <adriyel> LOL
[08:23] <cahoone> terminal says: Package libstdc++5 is not installed.
[08:23] <madsen> bob2: E.g. banshee gives me "Unhandled Exception: DBus.DBusException: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-vxjLeVeQfl: Connection refused" and nothing in daemon.log.
[08:23] <adriyel> what is it, a poster for times square?
[08:23] <cafuego_> (2 hours on a 2GHz AthlonXP - year!)
[08:23] <dmlinux> adriyel umm dude i live photoshop. you can run it on a 300 dollar computer with no problems
[08:23] <adriyel> Bryce takes a good time to render scenes
[08:23] <adriyel> dmlinux, the main issue is the games and 3d work I do
[08:23] <cahoone> and there is not libstdc available in Add Applications
[08:23] <ironfrost_> hi - I didn't hear myself coming through before, so apologies if I'm repeating myself
[08:23] <adriyel> I anti-alias and post-process the shit out of the stuff I make
[08:23] <bob2> madsen: does that file exist?
[08:23] <adriyel> I have an AMD 3500
[08:23] <cafuego_> dmlinux: It will _run_ but if you do high res print stuff it'll take _forever_
[08:23] <adriyel> Venice...
[08:23] <dmlinux> adriyel well games i understand , 3d work , yes, i run all my games, and maya on my current laptop
[08:23] <ironfrost_> I want to know about SMP (multi-processor support) for opterons
[08:23] <bob2> cahoone: what are you trying to install?
[08:23] <adriyel> you run maya...on a laptop?
[08:23] <adriyel> eek.
[08:24] <madsen> bob2: Nope, it doesn't - but I thought it wasn't supposed to (the "abstract" thingy).
[08:24] <iceman> Whare do i point shoutcast to go to use streamtuner as the player .. whats the file location
[08:24] <adriyel> Ironfrost, what do you need/want to know?
[08:24] <cahoone> i tried to install RealPlayer to read mp3s
[08:24] <bob2> ironfrost_: 1) install k8-smp kernel 2) drink beer and congratulate yourself on a job well done
[08:24] <ironfrost_> specifically, I have to run a 32 bit version of Ubuntu on a dual processor opteron
[08:24] <ironfrost_> and obviously there is no k8 smp for i386
[08:24] <dmlinux> cafuego not really, my desktop righ tnow is 4 years old and i do high res image PSing and have no lag or hiccups.
[08:24] <adriyel> you can do that Ironfrost_, what about it?
[08:24] <adriyel> erm, you want K8?
[08:24] <ironfrost_> so, will things die horribly if I install the k7 version
[08:24] <dmlinux> cafuego_ PS isnt too demanding to need a high end computer
[08:24] <cahoone> i downloaded realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb
[08:24] <adriyel> install the 64-bit version of Ubuntu ironfrost_
[08:25] <cafuego_> ironfrost_: Well, building a custom kernel is fairly trivial. or run the -k7-smp one.
[08:25] <bob2> cahoone: install the libstdc++5 package
[08:25] <adriyel> k7 will run fine, if you're willing to give up the extensions...
[08:25] <iceman> patrick where it streamtuner stored to point shout cast to it
[08:25] <cafuego_> dmlinux: Your lack of knowledge implies you've never done actual work with it.
[08:25] <madsen> cahoone: You don't need realplayer for mp3s... Pretty much anything can handle it... See: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (I think).
[08:25] <bob2> madsen: good point, I don't have a file like that even on machines with allegedly working dbus
[08:25] <dmlinux> cafuego_ lol
[08:25] <ironfrost_> adriyel, that's not an option because the software won't compile on 64-bit and I don't know enough to make it do so
[08:25] <dmlinux> cafuego not for work no, personal use, yes
[08:25] <ironfrost_> (that was a reply to "install the 64 bit version", sorry)
[08:26] <bob2> ironfrost_: what software is it, out of interest?
[08:26] <cafuego_> dmlinux: Like editing a 500Kb jpeg?
[08:26] <ironfrost_> thanks a lot for the advice, I'll get rhe k7 version now
[08:26] <warreng> anybody know of a repo that would have azureus?
[08:26] <ironfrost_> bob2 - it's Dacapo, a Materials Science simulation program
[08:26] <cahoone> yeah, i downloaded sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3 adn i thought that with that I could be able to read mp3, but not
[08:26] <cahoone> I don't like real player at all
[08:26] <madsen> bob2: Hehe. But you were saying something about multiple dbus'es not being the best... What was that?
[08:26] <SpecialBudd> I could view external my external harddrive with kubuntu 5.04 but I can't with 5.10.  Does anyone know why?
[08:26] <bob2> cahoone: "read mp3"?
[08:26] <dmlinux> cafuego_ um no try higher. :P
[08:26] <ironfrost_> if you can hang on a second, I'll point you to my query on their mailing list about why I can't compile it on AMD64
[08:26] <cahoone> sorry, my english is not good
[08:26] <bob2> cahoone: all k3b-mp3 would do is let k3b burn audio cds from mp3 files.
[08:26] <bob2> SpecialBudd: define "view"
[08:27] <iceman> cool got that working
[08:27] <bob2> SpecialBudd: is it being mounted at all?
[08:27] <madsen> cahoone: Check out the link I gave you just before... It should tell you how to get mp3 playback working.
[08:27] <cafuego_> dmlinux: Try working on a 600dpi 2m banner print in CMYK with 512Mb ram and see how long until you want to stab yourself in the eyes with a spoon ;-)
[08:27] <bob2> cahoone: it's easier if you explain exactly what you want to have happen, so people can advice you on what to do
[08:27] <madsen> cafuego_: 48 minutes?
[08:27] <iceman> ok wine help.. got it all downloaded.. now what to do
[08:27] <adriyel> ironfrost_ just use the K7...64-bit isn't THAT useful quite yet to most users...may I ask what you're using this dual-opteron workstation for?
[08:28] <bob2> sure it is
[08:28] <adriyel> furthermore, what won't compile on AMD64 ironfrost_ ?
[08:28] <bob2> faster code and access to more than 896MB of ram is useful to lots of people
[08:28] <dmlinux> cafuego_ my whole point was you dont need to justify a high end computer to run photoshop , now in the terms you speak of yes. a higher end can benefit greatly, but i wasnt saying work like that didnt need it
[08:28] <bob2> adriyel: scroll up, ironfrost_ already answered that
[08:28] <cahoone> i just want my old xmms!
[08:28] <adriyel> bob2, to more than 896mb of RAM? wtf are you talking about?
[08:28] <patrick_> 
[08:28] <adriyel> bob2, I have 1GB of RAM, no probs on i386
[08:29] <adriyel> the limit of RAM for 32bit is 4gb
[08:29] <bob2> adriyel: uh, HIGHMEM?
[08:29] <madsen> cahoone: then install xmms-mad
[08:29] <cafuego_> dmlinux: Well, I've never TRIED telling a client they owe me 12 hour's pay instead of 1 because it took 6 hours to load and save the image on a slow workstation ;-)
[08:29] <adriyel> agh.
[08:29] <madsen> cahoone: That'll enable xmms to play mp3s
[08:29] <bob2> adriyel: also, lifting the 3GB address space limit for user processes is handy
[08:29] <SpecialBudd> bob2, I just had to plug in the USB cable and it would show up on the desktop but now it doesn't and I can't see any of my files
[08:29] <bob2> SpecialBudd: what does "ls /media" print out?
[08:29] <madsen> cahoone: Actually, search for 'xmms' in apt (use cmd line or synaptic) and take a look at what turns up.
[08:29] <cahoone> ok thanks let me see
[08:30] <SpecialBudd> drom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0  hda1  hda2  hda4  sda5  sda6  sda7  usbdisk
[08:30] <starscalling> ok let me shoot this by you bob before i do it :P
[08:30] <dmlinux> cafuego_  remember, i dont do that as a job, :P
[08:30] <starscalling> ive backed up the dozen odd program configureations i care about
[08:30] <starscalling> [had to change ownership but meh] 
[08:30] <adriyel> does the flash-plugin work with 64-bit ubuntu yet?
[08:30] <starscalling> what i want to do is purge my previous user removing it entirely, and then make a new one with that same name
[08:31] <cafuego_> dmlinux: So my point remains, you've not really worked with it.
[08:31] <bob2> SpecialBudd: look in /media/usbdisk in konqueror
[08:31] <dmlinux> cafuego_ no but i also dont get payed to work with it.
[08:31] <bob2> adriyel: no, there is no port of the proprietary flash plugin from macromedia for amd64 yet
[08:31] <starscalling> then move this stuff there and re- chown it to that user [the same name as the original]  and be careful to make notes when i change configurations
[08:31] <bob2> starscalling: no, that's silly
[08:31] <starscalling> might this by chance work?
[08:31] <dmlinux> cafuego_ so my point remains, you dont need a high end comp to "run" it
[08:31] <bob2> starscalling: just clean out their homedir and copy whatever you want back in there
[08:31] <SpecialBudd> bob2, that worked
[08:32] <dmlinux> cafuego_ :P
[08:32] <starscalling> i can delete everything?
[08:32] <ironfrost_> sorry about taking so long - https://listserv.fysik.dtu.dk/pipermail/campos/2005-October/001834.html is the details of the problem compiling on AMD64
[08:32] <starscalling> that i dont care about?
[08:32] <starscalling> o.o
[08:32] <bob2> starscalling: yes
[08:32] <SpecialBudd> bob2, I can't do it the way I used to by doing just /sda5 etc.
[08:32] <SpecialBudd> bob2, thanks for your help
[08:32] <bob2> SpecialBudd: ok, I don't know what part of KDE is broken, sorry.  perhaps #kubuntu or the ubuntu-users lists would know how to fix it.
[08:32] <starscalling> even .cache .config and the like bob2?
[08:33] <bob2> I've not heard of either of those directories
[08:33] <bob2> since your goal is to nuke your homedir, tho, deleting them seems fine
[08:33] <Sirrush> Hi Everyone
[08:34] <dmlinux> hey
[08:34] <SpecialBudd> I'm about to give up on Breezy and go back to Hoary
[08:34] <bob2> SpecialBudd: please do file a bug
[08:34] <SpecialBudd> k
[08:34] <ironfrost_> basically it's trying to compile one section in 32-bit mode; it won't work with GCC3.3 so I install GCC3.4 or 4 and then it tells me various libraries (ATLAS etc) aren't compatible
[08:34] <abe> ?
[08:34] <ironfrost_> so when I replace those with 32 bit ones it then tells me the files I'd compiled earlier on aren't compatible
[08:35] <XiCillin> anybody know of a howto on creating GDM themes?
[08:35] <ironfrost_> (sorry if this is a bad explanation; I'm new to all this sort of thing myself)
[08:35] <XiCillin> suprisingly nothign apparent on google
[08:35] <XiCillin> its just a XML file right?
[08:35] <dmlinux> adriyel you want that .deb
[08:36] <adriyel> dmlinux, indeed.
[08:36] <cahoone> ok finally i can hear mp3s
[08:36] <madsen> cahoone: :)
[08:37] <cahoone> thanx a lot
[08:37] <dmlinux> adriyel my buddy paid for cedega a while back didnt like it , he switched back to windows :( gah. so he gave it to me
[08:37] <cahoone> see ya
[08:37] <madsen> cahoone: np :)
[08:37] <dmlinux> adriyel how do you want me to send it , because im not using it
[08:37] <Sirrush> XiCillin,  not sure but would this help  http://julian.coccia.com/blog/index.php?p=51&more=1
[08:37] <adriyel> dmlinux, interesting. how do we go about trasnferring...
[08:37] <dmlinux> adriyel no support  :P
[08:37] <adriyel> that being the question.
[08:37] <adriyel> meh? support? from who? transgaming? bah. screw them
[08:38] <adriyel> accept
[08:38] <dmlinux> adriyel well i have an ATI card.,and am not experienced enough to tinker around to make it work
[08:38] <adriyel> ubotu tell dmlinux about ati
[08:38] <adriyel> read your messages man
[08:38] <adriyel> you can make it work
[08:38] <adriyel> dmlinux, ok, here's how we send the file
[08:38] <dmlinux> ive got my FGLRX up and running, my vid card has no problems
[08:39] <dmlinux> adriyel gimme your email
[08:39] <adriyel> no dmlinux
[08:39] <adriyel> do it this way please
[08:39] <chris86wm> hey guys, i have an inspiron 6000 and scrolling doesnt seem to work with breezy. is my laptop not supported?
[08:39] <adriyel> right-click on my name dmlinux, select direct client-to-client, and send file
[08:39] <adriyel> send the .deb to me
[08:39] <starscalling> well that didnt work too well bob2
[08:39] <Sirrush> XiCillin,  try this too might find it interesting http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=409807
[08:40] <starscalling> it couldnt make some files/folders apparently like .gnome2
[08:40] <starscalling> so im currently back to wanting to delete that user and recreate it
[08:40] <adriyel> ok, dmlinux, you'll have to send it to my gmail account
[08:40] <adriyel> use my name + at gmail.com
[08:40] <adriyel> k?
[08:40] <dmlinux> adriyel didnt get it ?
[08:40] <adriyel> no route to host (I am behind NAT)
[08:40] <robitaille> chris86wm,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam  has a bunch of pages about laptops, including yours
[08:40] <chris86wm> alright thanks alot
[08:41] <adriyel> dmlinux, you sending it to the gmail address?
[08:41] <iceman> anyone able to assit in starting a game in wine ... ?
[08:41] <dmlinux> sec gotta load up my gmail if i remember my pw
[08:41] <dmlinux> adriyel im not giving you my main email
[08:41] <poningru> !network manager
[08:41] <ubotu> Not a clue, poningru
[08:42] <Vw790> hello all gotta noob question
[08:42] <adriyel> dmlinux, meh?
[08:42] <adriyel> I don't want your main email, I want the file :P
[08:42] <adriyel> I'm not a spamming company sitting behind ehre
[08:42] <adriyel> here
[08:42] <Vw790> is Hory Hedghog packed with the decoders to play .vobs?
[08:42] <chris86wm> hmm well it says that the scrolling is untested
[08:43] <adriyel> have a little trust, I invested a little bit of time in an attempt to help you, surely you can give a sign of good faith in sending the file, correct?
[08:43] <adriyel> if there is no other alternative use isnoop.net to make another gmail acct and send it thru there
[08:43] <Sirrush> CuriousCat,  Hello :)
[08:43] <dmlinux> adriyel spam? f that , easily taken care of, its other things i prevent :P
[08:43] <CuriousCat> hi sirrush!
[08:43] <iceman> how to start diablo II using wine ... help anybody ?
[08:43] <dmlinux> adriyel dont worry, i have my gmail
[08:44] <esc_ape> anyone use rufus yet?
[08:44] <adriyel> dmlinux, may I ask, what the other things you speak of are?
[08:44] <nnonix> Anyone care to share their opinions of gnome-power-manager?
[08:45] <dmlinux> adriyel no
[08:45] <adriyel> I have enough of an imagination and knowledge to perhaps be annoying, given your main email, but I don't see the given actual dmg that could be done. for that matter, I highly doubt anyone here who isn't a bot would give any thought to being malicious in that manner
[08:45] <adriyel> whatever the case is...send away :P
[08:45] <Vw790> no one knows how to play .vobs in totem?
[08:45] <dmlinux> adriyel lol you are kinda rude for someone asking something of someone else
[08:46] <iceman> how do i start diablo II in wine
[08:46] <Hendric> iceman: wine /path/to/diablo.exe
[08:46] <adriyel> dmlinux, I'm not attempting to be rude, I am succeeding at being frank with you. I apologize
[08:46] <enickma> hello, could someone please explain to me "Sessions" under "System"/"Preferences"?
[08:46] <dnae09> libdvdcss, w32codecs   steered to ubuntu restricted formats, anything to add to this
[08:47] <dmlinux> adriyel yeah well its being slow
[08:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> my spdif connection stopped working again.  great.
[08:47] <enickma> does anyone know how to get a program to load when gnome starts up?
[08:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> enickma easy
[08:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> enickma the easiest way would be for you to go into preferences and look at sessensio
[08:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> .sessions
[08:47] <dmlinux> adriyel this is why i stopped using gmail. its slow, its clunky, and its not very pretty to look at  :P
[08:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> there you will see a way to add any programs you want to start automatically.
[08:48] <h4zn__> how can i update my ubuntu from 5.04 to 5.1?
[08:48] <adriyel> dmlinux, such is the way of all webmail
[08:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> dmlinux you're crazy.
[08:48] <adriyel> h4zn__, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:48] <dmlinux> adriyel thats why i use my Cable email
[08:48] <shale> where can i get a chroma key replace filter for kino?
[08:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> dmlinux gmail is fast, extremely well organized, and packed with features.  i could never go back to an email system that doesn't use labels.
[08:48] <enickma> broken: i did but it's not working... admittedly, i'm trying to run it using "sudo"... and i think that's causing problems
[08:48] <iceman> Hendric ok ... in a terminal ... i type  wine /*.*   that being the path to where diablo is located
[08:48] <madsen> dmlinux: But then you realize it has free pop3 and that you can just use your favourite mail-client. ;)
[08:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> enickma don't run it using sudo.
[08:48] <enickma> i have to, there's no other way
[08:48] <dmlinux> madsen i use my pop3 i get with my ISP
[08:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> the gmail interface is vastly better than any mail client.
[08:49] <dmlinux> madsen soGmail is useless to me
[08:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> gmail is so pretty.
[08:49] <thom_> anybody else having trouble running kubuntu and ubuntu?
[08:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> so slick and minimalistic.
[08:49] <enickma> broken: i have to, there's no other way
[08:49] <dmlinux> BROKEN_LADDER fan boy ! omg :P
[08:49] <thom_> i wont ever do it again
[08:49] <Hendric> Gmail = Great Mail
[08:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> enickma what do you mean there's no other way?
[08:49] <kisielk> thom_: no I just installed it the other day
[08:49] <madsen> dmlinux: Well, what if you change ISP? Then you change email address?
[08:49] <kisielk> thom_: seems to work fine here
[08:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> enickma you CAN NOT run it as sudo, because that will only change root's settings, not yours.
[08:49] <dmlinux> madsen i wont change ISP
[08:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> gmail is freakin awesome.
[08:49] <thom_> kisielk: ive installed it on 2 computers
[08:49] <madsen> dmlinux: Ok...
[08:49] <enickma> broken: well, i'm an aussie and trying to run a program called "bpalogin" - it connects me to my ISP - i've installed it successfully but it won't connect at startup
[08:50] <kisielk> thom_: and?
[08:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just wish gmail's filtering was a lot more configurable.
[08:50] <dmlinux> madsen plus its the only cable in my area :P hhaha
[08:50] <dmlinux> adriyel its sent
[08:50] <thom_> kisielk: after the 3rd boot on notebook i was not able to get fully into ubuntu
[08:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> enickma can you please use tab completion if your client supports it.  i keep missing your sentences because they don't highlight.
[08:50] <madsen> dmlinux: Well, ok... But it could happen that you moved some day, couldn't it?
[08:50] <Hendric> gmail is so strict with attachments
[08:50] <bam_> nm on the acpi temp dealie earlier, I just tweaked a gdesklet to show the temperature
[08:50] <enickma> broken_ladder: sorry about that
[08:50] <thom_> kisielk: it had nothing to do with gdm or kdm
[08:50] <kisielk> thom_: what was the error?
[08:51] <madsen> dmlinux: I run my own mail server on my own domain - I'm set for life. ;)
[08:51] <adriyel> sweet, thanks dmlinux
[08:51] <thom_> kisielk: no error,
[08:51] <dmlinux> madsen , i guess, but my isp is everywhere so doubtful if i wouldnt be able to use the pop3 anymore
[08:51] <kisielk> thom_: there had to be an error somewhere
[08:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> enickma then you would go to preferences, sessions, and put in the line "sudo program.exe"
[08:51] <thom_> kisielk: i could find none in logs
[08:51] <kisielk> thom_: so what happens exactly?
[08:51] <h4zn__> how can i update my ubuntu from 5.04 to 5.1?
[08:51] <h4zn__> anyone?
[08:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> enickma i believe you can specify the password on the sudo line.
[08:51] <dmlinux> adriyel np, glad to help
[08:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> enickma do sudo --help or man sudo.
[08:51] <enickma> broken_ladder: i did... but ti didn't work - how do i specify the password?
[08:51] <thom_> kisielk: it would get to the part of screen of just background
[08:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> enickma look and see.
[08:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> enickma man sudo
[08:52] <thom_> no menus nothing
[08:52] <enickma> broken_ladder: thanks, i'll give it a go
[08:52] <madsen> dmlinux: Sure.. I just find it soooo annoying to change email address... I mean, it's in every file I write - I'd like people to be able to get in touch with me if they have issues (or something) with some of my code.
[08:52] <thom_> this was after i changed some settings on kubuntu
[08:52] <thom_> fonts and styles
[08:52] <bimberi> h4zn__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:52] <kisielk> madsen: that's why I just have an address on my domain and then forward it to whatever account I happen to be using
[08:53] <Hendric> h4zn__: change the repos to breezy's... then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:53] <thom_> kisielk: it could also be that battery was almost out
[08:53] <kisielk> madsen: ISP, gmail, whatever is most convenient
[08:53] <thom_> and something with acpi or pcmcia
[08:53] <Hendric> h4zn__: change the repos to breezy's... then sudo apt-get upate then apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:53] <dmlinux> adriyel i might be getting 4.4.1 :P
[08:53] <dmlinux> madsen aye.
[08:53] <starscalling> YES
[08:53] <h4zn__> Hendric..how do i cahnge the repos?
[08:53] <starscalling> \o/ thankyou guys :D
[08:54] <madsen> kisielk: Well, I got my mail running on my own domain as well... I just actually use it - I find it nicer than using gmail or my ISP's crummy webmail.
[08:54] <thom_> kisielk: the wireless broke also, and the mouse curser went crazy
[08:54] <madsen> Well, brb!
[08:54] <thom_> kisielk: this notebook also has nvidia
[08:54] <dmlinux> madsen my isp has webmail as well but they have pop3 and smtp and some other kind
[08:54] <thom_> on pc.  windows started whiting out with no text
[08:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> madsen what kind of webmail client could you be using that could possibly be better than gmail?
[08:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> madsen i'll bet it doesn't support labels.
[08:55] <thom_> completely different system
[08:55] <Hendric> h4zn__: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:55] <dmlinux> BROKEN_LADDER dude get off the gmail buff
[08:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> dmlinux but it's so awesome.
[08:55] <dmlinux> BROKEN_LADDER to some. not to most though
[08:55] <Hendric> h4zn__: change the words hoary to breezy
[08:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> whenever i go to concerts at Shoreline Amphitheater, I walk across the street to google hq and pray.
[08:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> dmlinux to most, not to some.
[08:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> dmlinux gmail is simply better in almost every respect than any other mail interface.
[08:56] <dmlinux> Broken_ladder lol you dont live in reality
[08:56] <enickma> broken_ladder: I can use the -b parameter to get it to load in the background. I'll give that a shot and let you know. brb.
[08:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> you can compare it in terms of features, auto completion, storage space, etc.
[08:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's all better numerically.
[08:57] <thom_> kisielk: ubuntu correctly identifies wireless and boots without pcmcia problems
[08:57] <dmlinux> so is 100 beers.. whats your point
[08:57] <iceman> who can help on installing wine .. crap
[08:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> dmlinux well, good point. i wouldn't get one beer when i could get 100 that are better.
[08:57] <dmlinux> go to advanced in your synaptic iceman
[08:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> dmlinux thus i use gmail.
[08:57] <dmlinux> broken_ladder lol your funny
[08:57] <thom_> any laptop users here?
[08:57] <dmlinux> thome_ me
[08:57] <jedediah_> thom_, me
[08:58] <dmlinux> thom_*
[08:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> gmail gives you multiple personalities, sorts by conversation (though that should be able to be disabled), uses labels instead of directories...
[08:58] <h4zn__> Hendric..so i have to change all the hoary's to breezy?
[08:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> has virtually unlimeted storage (who's ever gonna have more than 2.6 gb of email)
[08:58] <kisielk> BROKEN_LADDER: yeah, the only thing I hate about GMail is how anal it is about attachment types
[08:58] <dmlinux> broken_ladder i do
[08:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> dmlinux lol.  yeah right dude.
[08:58] <thom_> does anyone have centino on ipw2200 with nvidia
[08:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> kisielk wacha mean?
[08:58] <thom_> centrino sorry
[08:58] <Hendric> h4zn__: yes then "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:58] <dmlinux> Broken_ladder i put 75% of my Mp3s on their for backup
[08:58] <kisielk> BROKEN_LADDER: try emailing an exe
[08:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> dmlinux email space is not for databasing!
[08:59] <h4zn__> thats a lot of horays
[08:59] <kisielk> BROKEN_LADDER: or an exe inside of a zip
[08:59] <enickma> broken_ladder: it didn't work... i don't understand the "Current Session" screen - could you explain that to me? it claims that the command I'm trying to run has a "Style" of "trash" - what does that mean?
[08:59] <iceman> dmlinux dont see an advanced tab or option in synaptic
[08:59] <h4zn__> Hendric how abou the version #'s?
[08:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> dmlinux email storage space is for emails.  if you want file space, go to a service that is designed for that.  you can't criticize an apple for not being an orange.
[08:59] <dmlinux> thom_ i couldnt get ipw2200 to work, and i have centrino with PRO/wireless 2915 a/b/g
[08:59] <thom_> dmlinux: is everything seem alright
[08:59] <dmlinux> broken_ladder why when Gmail is free :P
[08:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> enickma i have no clue pal.
[08:59] <dmlinux> thom_ yea, but my wifi light doesnt light up
[08:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> dmlinux lol
[08:59] <thom_> dmlinux: im thinking of getting another card
[08:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> that's retarded.
[09:00] <dmlinux> thom_ what do you have
[09:00] <enickma> broken_ladder: opkay, thanks anyway
[09:00] <dmlinux> icemant its under file
[09:00] <thom_> dmlinux: sony vaio here
[09:00] <Hendric> h4zn__: hmm.. you better find breezy's repos.. then replace everything
[09:00] <aftertaf> lol
[09:00] <dmlinux> thom
[09:00] <thom_> the nvidia is great
[09:00] <dmlinux> thom_ no no your wireless card.
[09:00] <madsen> BROKEN_LADDER: Then let me tell you something funny... I don't use labels... SquirrelMail is fine for me - but I rarely even use webmail, I prefer a good old-fashioned IMAP client...
[09:00] <thom_> dmlinux: same
[09:00] <paco_reyes> hi
[09:00] <thom_> ipw2200 i told you i thought
[09:00] <h4zn__> Hendric...were can iget it?
[09:00] <dmlinux> iceman click FILE, then click ADVANCED, and search for wine
[09:01] <thom_> dmlinux: its shit
[09:01] <dmlinux> thom_ o well the driver is called that too
[09:01] <thom_> shit you mean
[09:01] <warreng> is there a mp3 player (not xmms) that's better than rhythm box?
[09:01] <paco_reyes> which better, netapplet or network manager
[09:01] <thom_> there is ipw-firmware
[09:01] <dmlinux> thom_  well not everyone thinks that way, but i think sony vaios are pos
[09:01] <thom_> and a driver
[09:01] <warreng> paco: i like network manager
[09:01] <dmlinux> thom_ lemme look for it
[09:01] <brenner> ubotu: tell warreng about players
[09:01] <h4zn__> Hendric...were can iget it?
[09:01] <thom_> i like my vaio
[09:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> madsen imap is fine, but normal directories suck compared to labels.
[09:02] <dmlinux> thom_ i6000d dell here
[09:02] <thom_> the graphics will beat a pc
[09:02] <madsen> warreng: I think quodlibet is pretty nice - banshee should be cool too. I've been trying to 24h solid to get it (banshee) working, but you might be lucky. :)
[09:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> madsen there are so many times when i have emails that belong in more than one category, and labels are the only way to make sanity of it.
[09:02] <gues1> Can someone please help me with setting up my dual display? I have tried editing my xconfig file many times but still can't get it to work
[09:02] <dmlinux> thom_ http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
[09:02] <thom_> i got 1G ram and nvidia
[09:02] <thom_> i know that
[09:02] <h4zn__> Hendric...were can iget it?
[09:02] <thom_> thanks
[09:02] <dmlinux> thom_ mine does to alot of machines , what vid card do you have
[09:02] <iceman> dmlinux tells me wine is not available
[09:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> thom_ post the forum as well if you don't get help here.
[09:02] <warreng> i just want a simple mp3 player that can do streams/remote mp3's
[09:02] <dmlinux> iceman give me the exact msg
[09:02] <madsen> BROKEN_LADDER: Uhm, ok... It doesn't really bother me that much... I mean, I can see why it's smart, but I'm doing fine with just folders.
[09:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> warreng mp3 is dead.  check into vorbis/flac.
[09:03] <Digis> !tell me about java
[09:03] <thom_> i will im tired
[09:03] <dmlinux> warreng research amaroK
[09:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> madsen mmmk.
[09:03] <thom_> i tried like 10 distros
[09:03] <thom_> ubuntu comes out on top
[09:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> thom_ stick with ubuntu dude.
[09:03] <warreng> thanks
[09:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> thom_ absolutely.
[09:03] <madsen> thom_: Tried LFS? ;-p
[09:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> thom_ and ubuntu people are friendly and like to help.  see, i'd help myself but i don't know anything about your problem. :(
[09:03] <Hendric> Can anyone copy and do a pastebin of breezy's official repos for h4zn__????
[09:03] <thom_> well after installing kubuntu i thought that was it
[09:03] <gues1> does anyone have any experience with setting up dual display with 2 different vid cards?
[09:04] <Enquest> Its the third day I can't reach ubuntu.com
[09:04] <xuniluser> Is there an app for ubuntu that can do what netsupport (win app) can do?
[09:04] <dmlinux> gues1 its hell
[09:04] <thom_> i had whited out windows after like 3rd reboot
[09:04] <dmlinux> gues1 dont do it :P
[09:04] <thom_> and then ubuntu just would not load
[09:04] <iceman> dmlinux what the heck ibwine-dev:
[09:04] <iceman>  Depends: wine-dev  but it is not installabl
[09:04] <gues1> dmlinux, but i NEED dual display, haha
[09:04] <brenner> Hendric: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[09:04] <dmlinux> thom_ i know how to fix your windows
[09:04] <thom_> xfce worked except for log out screen disappeared
[09:04] <madsen> xuniluser: What does netsupport do on windows?
[09:04] <dmlinux> gues1 i need a million dollars !
[09:04] <thom_> then the mouse went notes
[09:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> thom_ when you tried to log out?
[09:04] <thom_> nuts
[09:04] <adriyel> oh god, someone is attempting dual display?
[09:04] <dmlinux> iceman you have all the repos?
[09:04] <adriyel> you poor bugger....
[09:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> dual display shouldn't be hard in the year 2005
[09:05] <gues1> dmlinux sorry i don't have that
[09:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> jesus.
[09:05] <cafuego_> Dual Display is fairly trivial to set up, really.
[09:05] <thom_> no
[09:05] <Hendric> h4zn__: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 <-- breezy repos... tnx to brenner
[09:05] <thom_> dmlinux: how?
[09:05] <iceman> dmlinux wish they were all turned on and included ... what am i missing
[09:05] <cafuego_> If you got an nvidia card, use the nvidia tool.
[09:05] <gues1> well i have 1 nvidia card and 1 ati
[09:05] <thom_> i just reinstalled
[09:05] <dmlinux> iceman let me paste my repos , give me a sec
[09:05] <adriyel> cafuego_, thank you for that aweinspiring statement of godliness. I'll be sure to ask you next time I have this compulsory desire to buy another monitor (hell will freeze first)
[09:05] <gues1> the ati card is an all in wonder, so i'm hoping i'll be able to get tv to work on it eventually
[09:06] <thom_> im staying in ubuntu and not adding anything cause i need to send emails
[09:06] <gues1> otherwise i do have another spare nvidia card i could replace my ati card with
[09:06] <thom_> evolution is working
[09:06] <dmlinux> ah crap i forgot where my sources.list are. anyone give a tired brethren a hand
[09:06] <cafuego_> adriyel: Let me put it this way then: it was trivial when I set it up here on my G450.
[09:06] <h4zn__> thanx
[09:06] <thom_> in kubuntu is would not start
[09:06] <madsen> dmlinux: /etc/apt/sources.list (?)
[09:06] <h4zn__> how do i retrieve them?
[09:06] <dmlinux> thom_ one sec talking with 4 diff people
[09:06] <dmlinux> madsen thansk
[09:07] <thom_> soory
[09:07] <Bieleke> thom_, evo is crap, lots of bugs, crappy html etc etc etc
[09:07] <thom_> Bieleke: what do you use?
[09:07] <thom_> kmail?
[09:07] <Bieleke> thunderbird
[09:07] <iceman> dmlinux send me the sorce.list file
[09:07] <madsen> thom_: For mail I'd recommend Mozilla Thunderbird (package: mozilla-thunderbird). It's pretty simple and stable.
[09:07] <thom_> Bieleke: i had an issue with thunderbird in windows
[09:08] <dmlinux> iceman http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3542 replace all the text in yours ( back it up first ) then paste mine in
[09:08] <Bieleke> i use evo for calendar (cause it links to the ubuntu clock) and thunderbird for email
[09:08] <dmlinux> thom_ ok does windows come up on grub?
[09:08] <thom_> well im afraid to try kmail after my crash
[09:08] <iceman> dmlinux thanks
[09:08] <madsen> thom_: You can also try Sylpheed / Sylpheed-claws if you want total control of your mail (or mutt if you're in a console mood). :)
[09:08] <Bieleke> thom_, what exactly was the problem ?
[09:08] <Hendric> h4zn__: open a terminal: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/souces.list" then open the site "paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325" copy and paste the content from pastebin to replace old repos... the do the apt-get thing
[09:08] <warreng> is there more gnome-ubuntu development or kde-ubuntu development?
[09:08] <thom_> i need a pim
[09:08] <h4zn__> how do i retrieve things that were pasted?
[09:08] <h4zn__> thatnks
[09:08] <dmlinux> iceman np , after that , save it , then do a sudo ap-get update, then a apt-get upgrade
[09:08] <thom_> something with calendar and contacts
[09:08] <Bieleke> you can start evo in calendar mode only
[09:09] <dmlinux> thom_ ok does windows come up on grub?
[09:09] <warreng> dmlinux: what's apt-get upgrade do?
[09:09] <Bieleke> and use another program for email
[09:09] <brenner> h4zn__: use a browser and go to http:paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[09:09] <dmlinux> warreng installs updates for apps etc
[09:09] <thom_> dmlinux: yes it did
[09:09] <brenner> *http://
[09:09] <warreng> ah cool
[09:09] <thom_> dmlinux: im not sure where we are at
[09:09] <dmlinux> thom_ what did it say when you go to the windows
[09:09] <Enquest> Its the third day I can't reach ubuntu.com thanxs to level3
[09:10] <warreng> dmlinux: if i put apt-get update; apt-get upgrade into a daily cron, would that be bad?
[09:10] <dmlinux> warreng idk :(
[09:10] <Enquest> thats for the whole of Belgium that can't reach ubuntu.com
[09:10] <thom_> dmlinux:  ok i logged out of kubuntu and relogged into ubuntu
[09:10] <dmlinux> warreng i do all my stuff manually as to not fuck it up
[09:10] <Enquest> somebody should inform ubuntu
[09:10] <dmlinux> thom_ what does your comp tell you when you try to boot to windows
[09:10] <thom_> the screen edges came up and the drum sound kept going like in loop
[09:10] <thom_> nothing its fine
[09:10] <thom_> i dual boot
[09:10] <thom_> sorry
[09:10] <dmlinux> thom_ oh i thought you had a problem with windows... nm then :P
[09:10] <thom_> no
[09:11] <thom_> lol
[09:11] <dmlinux> thom_ you have a prob with Kubuntu then?
[09:11] <thom_> maybe
[09:11] <budluva_> how come when i install wine and winesetuptk they each want to remove each other? ie if i apt-get install wine it wants to remove winesetuptk and if i install winesetuptk it wants to remove wine
[09:11] <thom_> i installed kubuntu
[09:11] <thom_> could not get back into abuntu except for a background
[09:11] <Bieleke> Enquest, there is nothing wrong with ubuntu.com
[09:11] <xuniluser> madsen: remote desktop
[09:11] <dmlinux> thom_ heres what you do , take your HDE and dunk it in orange juice, then smash it into a million pieces, it gets rid of kubuntu :)
[09:12] <Bieleke> Enquest, maybe dns-server problems ?
[09:12] <madsen> xuniluser: Oh, well, there should be plenty...
[09:12] <thom_> i dont have kubuntu anymore
[09:12] <iceman> dmlinux seems to be working ... thanks again
[09:12] <dmlinux> thom_ yay
[09:12] <dmlinux> iceman np
[09:12] <thom_> but i like kde or came from it
[09:12] <thom_> it has some better tools
[09:12] <thom_> gnome has like no tools
[09:12] <dmlinux> iceman i beleive you can "sudo apt-get install wine" as well , shouldnt have to go to synaptic
[09:12] <madsen> xuniluser: Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client  should be able to connect to windows boxen that way.
[09:12] <aby> hello
[09:13] <madsen> thom_: tools for what?
[09:13] <madsen> aby: hi
[09:13] <thom_> but works anyway
[09:13] <luckyaba> hi
[09:13] <xuniluser> madsen: i mean i need to control the workstations in the laboratory from a remote pc/admin pc.
[09:13] <aby> hello madsen
[09:13] <dmlinux> Mwahah my CPU is running at 28 degrees celcius
[09:13] <thom_> some wirless and bluetooth tools
[09:13] <thom_> anyway
[09:13] <madsen> xuniluser: Yeah, Terminal Server Client can connect to windows boxes and let you login on them...
[09:13] <thom_> what do you think happened?
[09:13] <iceman> dmlinux strange error
[09:13] <iceman> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[09:13] <iceman> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[09:13] <dmlinux> thom_ aye, theres BlueZ but the devs are ASSHOLES
[09:14] <dmlinux> iceman close synaptic
[09:14] <dmlinux> iceman it cant access it if there is something else loading it
[09:14] <thom_> why my error. was it kde?
[09:14] <thom_> kdm?
[09:14] <thom_> or is it my laptop crap?
[09:14] <dmlinux> thom_ dont ask that from me. i think sony is a shitty co
[09:15] <dmlinux> thom_ :P
[09:15] <thom_> i think the wireless has something to do with it
[09:15] <xuniluser> madsen: i'm using ubuntu in my workstations...
[09:15] <thom_> here we go again
[09:15] <dmlinux> thom_ nah lots of people use the same wifi card,
[09:15] <madsen> xuniluser: Ok, just try to say what it is you want, and be specific. :)
[09:15] <thom_> maybe its the video card
[09:15] <dmlinux> thom_ you have ipw2200 right
[09:15] <Hendric> iceman: it happens usually if you are apt-getting on a terminal or dpkging a package.. or synaptic is running..
[09:15] <thom_> because all my error are on screen anyway
[09:15] <thom_> yes ipw2200
[09:15] <dmlinux> thom_ it could be X
[09:16] <thom_> i think so
[09:16] <thom_> it is
[09:16] <dmlinux> thom_ usually means a setting is syntax or otherwise
[09:16] <thom_> its x or my card
[09:16] <xuniluser> madsen: as i have said i want to control the workstations and then i want to see what is happening on their desktops
[09:16] <thom_> i think its x
[09:16] <dmlinux> thom_ read the webpage i gave you
[09:16] <thom_> 3d works great though
[09:16] <warreng> is there a package that installs a bunch of video codecs? like divx?
[09:16] <Enquest> Bielke its not ubuntu.com that is down its the hub in londen of level3
[09:17] <dzik_24> Hello to all
[09:17] <dmlinux> thom_ aye, i have ATI and its worked flawlessly despite what people say
[09:17] <Enquest> Bieleke,  its not ubuntu.com that is down its the hub in londen of level3
[09:17] <dmlinux> !tell dmlinux about w32codecs
[09:17] <adriyel> Enquest, didn't Level3 get into it with some other company?
[09:17] <dmlinux> hmm wrong one
[09:17] <madsen> xuniluser: Yes, and the workstations are running ubuntu and you run <what?> on the machine you're trying to connect from.
[09:17] <adriyel> ubotu tell dmlinux about restricted formats
[09:17] <Enquest> So somebody should inform ubuntu that about 5 miljoen people can't reach ubuntu.com
[09:17] <thom_> ubuntu works cause wireless is eth0
[09:17] <dmlinux> adriyel thats it
[09:17] <iceman> ok help here ...http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3543
[09:17] <adriyel>  ;)
[09:18] <warreng> !tell warreng about restricted formats
[09:18] <dzik_24> Is there any guide for Breezy
[09:18] <Bieleke> Enquest, ah ok :-)
[09:18] <dmlinux> ubotu tell warreng about restriced formats
[09:18] <dzik_24> I need it very much
[09:18] <Enquest> adriyel, I don't know if level3 is some other company but the traceroute shows that it halts at leven3 in londen
[09:18] <dmlinux> ubotu tell warreng about restricted formats
[09:18] <thom_> on distros where its detected second, wireless has prooblems
[09:18] <thom_> seems so anyway
[09:19] <dmlinux> ubotu tell warreng about restricted formats
[09:19] <warreng> heh thanks :)
[09:19] <dmlinux> warreng read that
[09:19] <madsen> Enquest: Tried via IP?
[09:19] <xuniluser> madsen: ubuntu also
[09:19] <adriyel> Enquest, this may require deeper investigation on my part....tomorrow. I'd heard some miffs/disagreements occurring concurrently between l3 and someone else, as well as USA and EU
[09:19] <Bieleke> dmlinux, seems ubotu don't like you :-)
[09:19] <madsen> xuniluser: Then VNC might just do the job fine...
[09:19] <dmlinux> bieleke i slapped him for looking at me strange, now he wont coeperate
[09:19] <thom_> madsen: Sylpheed huh?
[09:19] <madsen> xuniluser: But ssh isn't half bad either, it's just console-based.
[09:19] <Bieleke> :-)
[09:20] <dmlinux> iceman that work for you
[09:20] <dmlinux> iceman ?
[09:20] <madsen> thom_: Yeah, I prefer sylpheed-claws (bleeding edge branch), but it's not as stable as regular sylpheed.
[09:20] <iceman> dmlinux nope ...
[09:20] <xuniluser> madsen: oic... ok thanks
[09:20] <dmlinux> iceman whats wrong
[09:20] <madsen> xuniluser: np :)
[09:20] <xuniluser> madsen: i think vnc is the one for me
[09:20] <thom_> madsen: what is it?
[09:20] <madsen> thom_: What do you mean? It's a mail-client... (?)
[09:21] <dzik_24> I reapet my question!! Is there any guide for Breezy??
[09:21] <thom_> right, is there contact management
[09:21] <Enquest> It seems that level3 is only filtering ubuntu.com trafic
[09:21] <Bieleke> dzik_24, sure, press F1
[09:21] <thom_> or do i just use a list
[09:21] <Enquest> all the rest works... Friends of my in Belgium comfirm this...
[09:21] <madsen> Enquest: Tried http://82.211.81.130/ ?
[09:21] <dmlinux> iceman what error is it giving you
[09:21] <Bieleke> dzik_24, first click on the desktop... then F1
[09:21] <iceman> dmlinux lot .. i pasted to you
[09:22] <thom_> madsen: nevermind, i remeber
[09:22] <madsen> thom_: :)
[09:22] <dmlinux> iceman o , ok
[09:22] <dmlinux> iceman give me URLto your paste
[09:22] <dzik_24> this is only HELP
[09:22] <Enquest> madsen the same proble
[09:22] <dzik_24> not GUIDE like www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:22] <iceman> dmlinux dialog window ...
[09:22] <_maydayjay_> dzik_24 Read on there is a guide in the help....
[09:23] <thom_> madsen: where do you get it?
[09:23] <dmlinux> dzik_24 ubuntuguide SUCKS
[09:23] <Enquest> So level3 has something against ubuntu and disconected it...
[09:23] <madsen> Enquest: Weird... I thought it might have been a DNS problem, but apparently it's not. :-|
[09:23] <dmlinux> iceman i dont see it  , repost
[09:23] <moimoctoc> Hi all,
[09:23] <dmlinux> hi
[09:23] <iceman> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3544
[09:23] <madsen> thom_: Same way as you get all other ubuntu-apps... Apt (synaptic / apt-get / apititude).
[09:24] <moimoctoc> i want to use vietnamese input method
[09:24] <Quarupted> aptitude????
[09:24] <moimoctoc> how can i do ?
[09:24] <thom_> was not there i probably have to add repos
[09:24] <Quarupted> Is that better than synaptic?
[09:24] <Enquest> madsen, its level3 that hates Ubuntu
[09:24] <thom_> just checking their site
[09:24] <thom_> claws looks cool
[09:24] <dmlinux> iceman oh well look up your backup file and get the CDROM on the top of the file, and put it into your new one
[09:24] <Enquest> The server in londen simple doesn't allow it
[09:24] <madsen> Enquest: heh, uncool!
[09:24] <moimoctoc> someone help me !
[09:24] <iceman> k
[09:24] <thom_> japanese huh/
[09:24] <Enquest> so somebody should send a complaint. Imagine this was Dell or something...
[09:25] <dmlinux> iceman its trying to access MY cdrom i installed linux with
[09:25] <Quarupted> lol, my roommate is looking for an active linspire chan LOL, I told her it doesnt exist
[09:25] <cafuego_> Enquest: Dell hates Linux, not just Ubuntu.
[09:26] <dmlinux> Enquest nothing wrong with dell .:P
[09:26] <adriyel> yes there is dmlinux :P
[09:26] <dmlinux> adriyel um no,
[09:27] <adriyel>  LOL
[09:27] <dmlinux> cafuego_ kiss my ass
[09:27] <Quarupted> wow
[09:27] <Quarupted> watch the language guys
[09:27] <cafuego_> dmlinux: Only if you wash it first
[09:27] <Quarupted> take it to off topic
[09:27] <dmlinux> cafuego_ ill make sure i dont :P just for you
[09:28] <adriyel> #ubuntu-offtopic...
[09:28] <iceman> dmlinux yea went looking for the 386 cd rom.. im using te amd 64 cd
[09:28] <Enquest> I said imagine it was Dell, then hell would freeze over because they would lose a lot of money
[09:28] <dmlinux> iceman me too dont worry about it
[09:29] <dmlinux> Enquest lol starbucks goes down first  if hell freezes over
[09:29] <Quarupted> You guys this doesnt have anything to do with Ubuntu support so take it somewhere else please
[09:30] <m0t83> hello
[09:30] <dmlinux> hi
[09:31] <iceman> dmlinux still weird .. same error
[09:31] <m0t83> i have a question about sed
[09:31] <dmlinux> iceman try getting rid of the CDROM section in your sources
[09:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> i am having the weirdest errors in kde.  it keeps saying "cpu overload: sound server aborting"
[09:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> lol.  cpu overload on my 3.2 ghz p4 machine with 1gb ram.
[09:31] <dmlinux> Broken_ladder Gmail musta done that to ya  :P haha
[09:31] <El_Che> BROKEN_LADDER: broken fan?
[09:31] <adriyel> 3.2ghz P4....cpu overload...I can believe that
[09:32] <adriyel> <--- AMD 3500...wanna race bimbo?
[09:32] <cafuego_> BROKEN_LADDER: It's KDE, what did you expect?
[09:32] <madsen> BROKEN_LADDER: With KDE that stuff happens.
[09:32] <thom_> BROKEN_LADDER: i had some on ubuntu on my other pc
[09:32] <adriyel> lol @ maddy + caf
[09:32] <madsen> cafuego_: Damn, you beat me to it. :-p
[09:32] <thom_> BROKEN_LADDER: cpu was 100%
[09:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> dmlinux i just killed gmail.  it fixed the problem.
[09:32] <cafuego_> BROKEN_LADDER: At the end of the day it *does* try to be Windows.
[09:32] <Quarupted> BROKEN_LADDER,  try #KDE
[09:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> El_Che no my fan is running quite normally (loudly)
[09:33] <cafuego_> or perhaps #kubuntu
[09:33] <dmlinux> Broken_LADDER !! lol thats ironic
[09:33] <aftertaf> BROKEN_LADDER:  install e:)
[09:33] <thom_> its kubuntu
[09:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> Quarupted i'm not asking for help dude, it's just a funny quirk.
[09:33] <adriyel> cafuego_, the horrifying thing is that it succeeds to be Windows
[09:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> aftertaf it sucks.  i only like gnome, kde, and flux.
[09:33] <cafuego_> adriyel: Well, no half measures eh.
[09:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> this is not kubuntu.
[09:33] <dmlinux> Quarupted is the Channel  policeman
[09:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's ubuntu with kde.
[09:33] <Quarupted> Oh, lol yea KDE is messed up
[09:33] <iceman> dmlinux no error if i comment out the cd rom
[09:33] <cafuego_> BROKEN_LADDER: Yes, that's kubuntu.
[09:33] <warreng> hrm, what's the URL for the multiverse repo?
[09:33] <dmlinux> iceman then you are fin
[09:33] <thom_> BROKEN_LADDER: thats what i had until i removed it
[09:33] <dmlinux> iceman fine
[09:33] <aftertaf> you're all a bucnh of trollers.....
[09:34] <aftertaf> :)
[09:34] <iceman> dmlinux but how to get wine
[09:34] <dmlinux> iceman try installing wine
[09:34] <thom_> trouble is i like kde,
[09:34] <Quarupted> so it would be #Kubuntu, but he isnt asking for help
[09:34] <dmlinux> iceman sudo apt-get install wine
[09:34] <adriyel> sudo apt-get install wine
[09:34] <adriyel> darn it dmlinux
[09:34] <dmlinux> adriyel old man !
[09:34] <adriyel> I'm getting slow these days
[09:34] <thom_> but i got to work, cant waste time with meltdowns
[09:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> cafuego yeah, kde does try to be windows, but gnome doesn't start my apps on the workspace they were on when i closed.  it doesn't restart apps that don't implicitly support "sessions" (whereas kde can force it). and it doesn't even have working menu configuration yet.
[09:34] <adriyel> sudo apt-get install bintutils && rm /dev/dm_linux/his_brain && flush_cache
[09:34] <dmlinux> thom_ meltdowns make it fun
[09:35] <iceman> dmlinux package wine not available
[09:35] <adriyel> *wipes hands* there... work is done
[09:35] <adriyel> iceman, are you using ubuntu?
[09:35] <thom_> dmlinux: kid needs shoes mate
[09:35] <dmlinux> iceman try doing the synaptic
[09:35] <adriyel> iceman, sudo apt-get update
[09:35] <iceman> absolutly ..
[09:35] <adriyel> dmlinux, he needs to update
[09:35] <dmlinux> thom_ i need shoes.. :(
[09:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnome also won't put menus at the top of the screen like osx does.  it's a much more logical choice.
[09:35] <shale> anyone have a sample postfix main.cf file they want to send me?
[09:35] <dmlinux> adriyel he did
[09:35] <thom_> dmlinux: maybe you should go out more
[09:35] <adriyel> dmlinux, gah.
[09:35] <shale> so i can see what a working one is supposed to look like
[09:35] <dmlinux> thom_ lol
[09:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> shale he wants to send me.
[09:35] <adriyel> wtf m8?
[09:35] <iceman> i did update
[09:35] <cafuego_> iceman: Wine is 32bit, no such beast exists on amd64 (or powerpc).
[09:36] <dmlinux> iceman go to synaptic then file, advanced, try it that way
[09:36] <Quarupted> I wanna hook up another small box maybe run an old Debian ditro on it, but i dun wanna waste a damn router on it, I wonder if i could connect it via USB or something
[09:36] <iceman> well that sucks ;)
[09:36] <cafuego_> iceman: If you want wine on amd64, you'll need a 32bit chroot.
[09:36] <iceman> cafuego_ whats that entail ?
[09:36] <cafuego_> Quarupted: firewire network?
[09:36] <dmlinux> quarupted no , unless you want to run at 3-5mb transf rate
[09:36] <cafuego_> !dchroot
[09:36] <ubotu> cafuego_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[09:36] <cafuego_> !chroot
[09:36] <ubotu> from memory, chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[09:36] <Quarupted> So I have to waste a whole router!
[09:37] <cafuego_> iceman: The latter of those two URLs is what you need.
[09:37] <dmlinux> cafuego_ he doesnt have amd64,
[09:37] <dmlinux> iceman do you?
[09:37] <dmlinux>  :)
[09:37] <Quarupted> 5 Mbit is fine with me
[09:37] <dmlinux> google it quar
[09:37] <Quarupted> Oh I am
[09:37] <dmlinux> both comps have bluetooth?
[09:37] <thom_> my fast review for the moment: suse 10=6 fedora=4 ubuntu=8
[09:37] <Quarupted> lol a BT network.. LMAO
[09:38] <dmlinux> quarupted, he ive done it,
[09:38] <iceman> dmlinux yea im on a 64 bit install
[09:38] <kamstrup> Can anyone try something for me... It's a small thing
[09:38] <dmlinux> quarupted better then a cable :P
[09:38] <dmlinux> iceman but do you have a AMD64 proc
[09:38] <kamstrup> echo "import gtk" >> mygtk.py
[09:38] <thom_> kamstrup: how small is it?
[09:38] <Quarupted> im talking about a 75 dollar box made from spare parts here, just to run firewall stuff
[09:38] <kamstrup> python mygtk.py
[09:38] <dmlinux> iceman im on the same install.. amd64 but i have intel centrino
[09:38] <kamstrup> that's all thom_
[09:38] <iceman> dmlinux amd xp64 2800 yep
[09:39] <dmlinux> iceman try the synaptic way
[09:39] <dmlinux> iceman if that doesnt work , idk reboot and try , after that im all out of answers
[09:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> my spdif connection keeps randomly "breaking", for no apparent reason.  and starting again when i toy with settings in alsamixer..even though alsactl restore doesn't fix it from a previously saved working state!!!
[09:39] <thom_> sorry im going to bed
[09:39] <starz> hrm
[09:39] <thom_> i cant see anymore
[09:39] <kamstrup> Do you get a "AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'CAPI'" from python?
[09:39] <starz> if i make a new user and have no sound all the sudden, get errors like gstreamer is conf wrong.. what can i do
[09:40] <bob2> add them to the audio group
[09:40] <starz> o:
[09:40] <bob2> a
[09:40] <iceman> dmlinux i'll try the chroot install see what happens
[09:40] <bob2> sudo adduser foo audio
[09:40] <thom_> anybody want to buy my laptop?
[09:41] <iceman> what is the chroot deal ... whats that do ?
[09:41] <dmlinux> thom_ ill give ya 20 bucks :P
[09:41] <Quarupted> Do they make lil switches that do NAT?
[09:41] <shale> is there a pine-like email client for ubuntu?
[09:42] <bob2> mutt
[09:42] <thoreauput1c> shale mutt
[09:42] <bob2> or pine, but you'll need to compile it
[09:42] <dmlinux> quarupted i beleive they do bro
[09:42] <iceman> well the howto has it checking components ... whet ever that involves ?
[09:43] <Quarupted> dmlinux, cause i dun wanna buy another NAT router for 40 bucks'
[09:43] <dmlinux> quarupted you can get a cheapy router you know, if its for a box for firewalls
[09:44] <Quarupted> well if my main router does NAT i can just put any old switch behind it and connect boxes to that right?
[09:44] <_maydayjay_> Do you already have a nat router?  If so add a switch uplink...
[09:45] <Quarupted> Yea I have a NAT router, but its in the other room and i dont need another 75 foot cat% hanging over my house
[09:45] <dmlinux> quarupted well for that i dont want to give you wrong info, id say google it :)
[09:45] <Quarupted> I just dunn if i can put a switch behind it and hope it will ive all those boxes there own IP's
[09:45] <erickUbuntu> mount: RPC: Program not registered
[09:45] <erickUbuntu>  i got this error I going to check or view the dir being shared by my NFS server
[09:46] <kikinovak> Hi. I'm just setting up a printer server with Ubuntu (installed in "server" mode). Currently setting up some udev rules to discriminate the printers, but things aren't where I'm accustomed to (Slackware udev is different).
[09:46] <kikinovak> Anyone here not afraid of udev? :o)
[09:46] <moimoctoc> someone help me
[09:46] <brownie17> anyone know anything about the nautilus image burning?
[09:47] <dmlinux> anyway its 4 am here, goodnight all
[09:48] <brownie17> i burnt the image of breezy to a cd using the nautilus, and it seemed to take an abnomrally small time, now whne i put the cd in one cd drive, it says cannot mount, and the other one just spins for ages and does nothing
[09:48] <brownie17> would updating to breezy require a reboot?
[09:50] <Stanley> Hi, can somebody here help, new to linux & wana install sendmail?
[09:50] <El_Che> Stanley: what?
[09:51] <thoreauput1c> Stanley: what's wrong with the  default postfix?
[09:51] <_maydayjay_> Quarupted - adding a switch will just add more ports to the router ... it won't affect DHCP ... so if you already have a cable running to the room where you want an extra pc ... just disconnect the cable from the pc add it to the switch and then connect the two pc's to the switch...
[09:51] <John_Mallan> hi, could someone help me with installing binutils? i just don't know how to get them installed
[09:51] <Quarupted> It's costs 2400 dollars a month to get a personal OC3 connection, thats not bad
[09:51] <Quarupted> thx _maydayjay_
[09:52] <Quarupted> What would I do with all that bandwidth
[09:52] <El_Che> Stanley: sendmail is a bitch to configure properly and securely. Don't do this at home stuff. Use postfix or exim
[09:52] <starz> Quarupted, how fast is an oc3 again?
[09:52] <nnonix> Quarupted: not much, I wouldn't expect that price to include bandwidth.
[09:52] <Quarupted> like 2Gbit
[09:53] <starz> no its not that fast i dont think
[09:53] <starz> meh
[09:53] <_maydayjay_> 155.2MBit
[09:53] <starz> brb liet me check
[09:53] <starz> yeah
[09:53] <John_Mallan> how do i install binutils in ubuntu?
[09:53] <starz> i recommend getting a server with cogent bandwidth
[09:53] <iceman> damit .. cant get wine to work here ..
[09:53] <_maydayjay_> sorry 155.52mbit
[09:53] <starz> -/once can get that for about mbit
[09:53] <Quarupted> OC-3 = 155.52 Mbps
[09:53] <starz> **per 100mbit
[09:54] <starz> and since your not using it all
[09:54] <Quarupted> I was thinking OC-48 = 2.488 Gbps
[09:54] <starz> you could get that and burst at a gbit easy for a grand or so
[09:54] <Quarupted> I hear Bill Gates has a personal OC-255
[09:55] <Quarupted> thats like 4Gbit
[09:55] <starz> thats not really that much
[09:55] <starz> considering he's not using it all the time
[09:55] <starz> im sure its nice to be able to push that
[09:55] <_maydayjay_> OC-255 13.21GBps
[09:55] <Quarupted> dude Amazon.com could run alone on a single OC-255 line
[09:55] <starz> but its not like he's at max 24-7
[09:55] <starz> few gigs here few gigs there
[09:56] <WhoaItsPhil> can anyone give me a hand that has some knowledge in prelinking?
[09:56] <nnonix> I have a full ds3 at the office and bandwidthreports.com tells me I have an 8mb connection. MuWahaha, they suck.
[09:56] <Quarupted> if ya had a bottle-neck free connection, you could download the entire internet everyday
[09:56] <starz> naw
[09:56] <starz> there is much more data on the inet than that
[09:56] <Quarupted> The entire internet is probably about 300 or 400 TB
[09:56] <starz> even archive.org's music selection is bigger
[09:56] <starz> dude
[09:57] <starz> your so off
[09:57] <Quarupted> Its been calculated, just the pages no content
[09:57] <starz> .............................................
[09:57] <Quarupted> just Html, PHP, and that kinda stuff
[09:57] <starz> what use do i have for that
[09:57] <starz> i want all the content
[09:57] <starz> and thats measured in PB
[09:57] <starz> or better
[09:57] <Quarupted> that would be an unimagable number
[09:58] <iceman> error: wine doesn't work, you have to install it...
[09:58] <starz> anything is imaginable
[09:58] <iceman> hellp
[09:58] <iceman> dir
[09:58] <starz> google == 10e100
[09:58] <Quarupted> That pretty much means all the content on any comp connected to the internet in the world
[09:58] <starz> im suire its less bytes than that so
[09:58] <starz> i would count same thing only once
[09:59] <starz> so even if 5mil ppl had matrix if they were all the same file i would only want one copy
[09:59] <starz> and would count that once
[09:59] <starz> [for each version of it of course] 
[09:59] <iceman> how do i install wine one the .c and .h files all download .. where did linux stick it ..
[10:00] <starz> but yeah Quarupted pretty much does mean that
[10:00] <starz> and im tired
[10:00] <starz> and ive to be up in a few hrs
[10:00] <starz> and im going to bed so ninie
[10:00] <starz> im still gonna have to reinstall !_!
[10:00] <Quarupted> 6.63 gigabits per second is the fastest recorded data transmission in history
[10:00] <Quarupted> Fact
[10:00] <starz> i assume you mean for a single stream
[10:01] <Quarupted> Continous
[10:01] <starz> but one stream
[10:01] <starz> not many
[10:01] <starz> b/c ive seen servers push higher
[10:01] <Quarupted> Well yea, this is over one line
[10:01] <starz> yeah k
[10:01] <starz> was that that international thing
[10:01] <starz> over the ocean and all
[10:01] <Quarupted> it was a special cable 5 feet thick of fiber
[10:01] <Quarupted> Yea it was transatlantic
[10:01] <starz> yeah k i heard about that
[10:02] <starz> but
[10:02] <starz> im sure there have been faster done
[10:02] <starz> locally
[10:02] <Quarupted> Nope
[10:02] <starz> say a few feet apart
[10:02] <Quarupted> Not on a single stream
[10:02] <Quarupted> Nothing recorded
[10:02] <starz> well im out
[10:02] <Quarupted> Doesnt matter how far when your going at the speed of light, well not anything we can measure would make a diff
[10:03] <iceman> add a link in the source.list to the sourceforge link to wine
[10:03] <Quarupted> from your room to your kitchen or from here to the moon
[10:03] <NsOmNiAc> is there a command line way to update to breezy ?
[10:03] <NsOmNiAc> errr upgrade
[10:03] <thoreauput1c> !breezy
[10:03] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:04] <nnonix> Ns0mNiAc: "sudo apt-get update" to get a updated list of packages and then "sudo apt-get upgrade" to update your installed files (if newer packages exist).
[10:05] <nnonix> Ns0m: sorry, misread your question
[10:06] <omerlh> Hello
[10:06] <nnonix> NsOmNiAc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade ... use the "apt-get" section
[10:07] <thoreauput1c> NsOmNiAc: basically you change all instances of "hoary" to "breezy" in your /etc/apt/sources.list then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:07] <NsOmNiAc> thanks so much
[10:07] <omerlh> How can I install kdevelop: c\c++?
[10:07] <thoreauput1c> NsOmNiAc: make sure you have "ubuntu-desktop" installed first, and watch out for backports/ 3rd party repositories
[10:08] <NsOmNiAc> yeahh making sure I have Ubuntu Desktop now
[10:08] <cafka184> can someone help me install ubuntu?
[10:08] <NsOmNiAc> what's weird is Kubuntu uses Exim
[10:08] <NsOmNiAc> and Ubuntu uses Postfix
[10:08] <bob2> it doesn't
[10:08] <thoreauput1c> cafka184: if you tell us the problem, maybe :)
[10:08] <Severian> cafka184, do you have a question?
[10:09] <cafka184> ok, i get to my partition that i want to install on and then it gives me these options that i can't figure out
[10:09] <Severian> cafka184, the install is pretty straight forward, but if you had a problem, what was it?
[10:09] <thoreauput1c> cafka184: such as?
[10:09] <cafka184> i can, but i afraid that my primary partition would be lost
[10:09] <cafka184> i just need to know what to enter the drive as
[10:09] <cafka184> what's the next option
[10:09] <silverphoenix> hi
[10:09] <silverphoenix> how to upradge from HH to Breezy?
[10:09] <Severian> cafka184, OK, so tell me what you want to have on the disk when you are through.
[10:10] <bob2> silverphoenix: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[10:10] <thoreauput1c> !breezy
[10:10] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:10] <brenner> anyone familiar with SDL?  i'm compiling a zsnes WIP and it's complaining about SDL version not being greater than 1.2.0 ... i'm running breezy and have libsdl1.2-dev and libsdl1.2debian-all installed.
[10:10] <silverphoenix> taknks bob2
[10:10] <cafka184> i have 2 partitions, one is completely empty(that's where i want it installed)
[10:10] <cafka184> i select the partition then what?
[10:10] <bob2> "WIP"?
[10:11] <brenner> work in progress
[10:11] <bob2> sudo apt-get build-dep zsnes
[10:11] <brenner> ipherswipsite.com/zsnes/
[10:11] <cafka184> i just want ubuntu installed on the empty drive and that's it
[10:11] <Severian> cafka184, Lets try again.  Tell me what you want to have on the disk when you are through.  For example, will it be all Ubuntu, or Ubuntu and Windows 98, or what?
[10:11] <cafka184> all ubuntu a whole partition dedicated to ubuntu
[10:12] <brenner> bob2: "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[10:12] <brenner> "
[10:12] <cafka184> i have another partition with XP on it, which i want to dual boot on start up
[10:12] <bob2> brenner: then do so (hint: look at it)
[10:12] <Severian> cafka184, OK, and you have two partitions for what reason?  Is the second one going to be swap?
[10:13] <brenner> bob2: um, i'm not too sure how i'd do that....what are URIs?
[10:13] <bob2> brenner: URI = URL
[10:13] <bob2> brenner: read the file
[10:13] <nalioth> brenner: causing trouble again?
[10:13] <thoreauput1c> cafka184: if I understand you correctly, you would want the empty partition mounted as / (the root of your ubuntu install)
[10:13] <Quarupted> How can I add the lil Icon for "show Desktop"?
[10:13] <brenner> bob2: the sources.list file?
[10:13] <bob2> brenner: e.g. the deb-src lines
[10:13] <brenner> ah
[10:13] <cafka184> thoreaupt1c: yes
[10:13] <thoreauput1c> Quarupted: right click panel, add
[10:13] <brenner> it'd be useful if i had those enabled i guess....
[10:13] <Severian> cafka184, OK, that is different from what you had first.  You want to end up with two OSes on the system.  One will be XP and the other Ubuntu, right?
[10:14] <silverphoenix> URI is with protocol (e.g http://etc/),but URL is without that (etc/)
[10:14] <cafka184> if by mounted you mean installed, sorry
[10:14] <brenner> nalioth: as always
[10:14] <Quarupted> whats it under?
[10:14] <cafka184> severian: yes
[10:14] <thoreauput1c> cafka184: so tell the installer to install on that partition by marking it / I guess
[10:14] <Sionide> silverphoenix, err i'm not sure about that
[10:14] <cafka184> do i do that at the terminal?
[10:15] <thoreauput1c> cafka184: umm - the installer asks you all this
[10:15] <tttriple[away] > it does
[10:15] <cafka184> right, ok i'm going to go back into the installer and write down exactly what i have a problem with
[10:15] <Sionide> silverphoenix, url and uri can be used interchangably
[10:15] <cafka184> thanks for all the help
[10:15] <thoreauput1c> cafka184: you have options - the options are given, you choose one - for instance "guided partitioning"
[10:15] <silverphoenix> ah,sorry then
[10:15] <Bo> testing
[10:16] <Severian> cafka184, You actually need to set up at least 3 partitions.  Partition 1 will be your Windows XP system. I would set up a total of 4 partitions, but 3 will be the minimum.  How big is the disk drive and how big is the Windows partition to be?
[10:16] <cafka184> windows is 7 gb
[10:16] <Sionide> silverphoenix, the thing you said actually makes some kinda logical sense :P if only it was the actual way
[10:16] <cafka184> and i have another at 12 gb
[10:16] <Quarupted> thoreauput1c, whats it under after I click add a panel?
[10:16] <silverphoenix> i was always know i'm stupid :)
[10:17] <Sionide> Quarupted, "Show Desktop" apparently
[10:17] <Severian> cafka184, how much ram does the system have?  Is the total disk size aabout 20 gigs?
[10:17] <thoreauputic> Quarupted: I'm in fluxbox atm but its in th elist of applets etc when you right click
[10:17] <Quarupted> I dont see it
[10:18] <Sionide> thoreauputic, i checked it, it's just called Show Desktop for me :s
[10:18] <cafka184> yes total is 20 gb, with 256 mb of ram
[10:18] <Sionide> heh Quarupted, try typing "show" in when that list window is up
[10:18] <thoreauputic> Sionide: fair enough - sounds logical ;)
[10:18] <Sionide> it should search the window for it
[10:18] <silverphoenix> Quarupted: Right click on panel -> Add to panel -> From list select "Show Desktop" and "Add"
[10:18] <runenes> What repo do i need to enable to apt-get install kppp?
[10:19] <thoreauputic> !info kppp
[10:19] <ubotu> kppp: (modem dialer and ppp frontend for KDE), section net, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 649 kB, Installed size: 3648 kB
[10:19] <silverphoenix> ....kdelibs?
[10:19] <thoreauputic> runenes: looks like it's in main...
[10:20] <iceman> ok.. anyone able to assist me in installing wine from a zip file format
[10:20] <silverphoenix> because it is in main.kppp is under GNu GPL :)
[10:20] <Bo> testing
[10:20] <Severian> cafka184, OK, set up these partitions.   1. Windows XP 7 gb.  Make sure you do not select to format that partition.  2. Swap partition Make this 512 MB in size and the filesystem type to be swap.  3. Make the remainder of the disk a filesystem type of XFS and set the mount point to /
[10:20] <Bo> Seems to work hello all
[10:21] <wickedpuppy> iceman, wine is in repos
[10:21] <runenes> thoreauputic, but why doesn't apt-get install kppp work
[10:21] <budluva> is anyone aware of the package problems with wine/winesetuptk?
[10:21] <silverphoenix> wine or winex?
[10:21] <thoreauputic> runenes: erm - did you run sudo apt-get update?
[10:21] <nsomniac> damn
[10:21] <wickedpuppy> wine
[10:21] <iceman> wickedpuppy i have tried and tried the repo's .. no luck ...
[10:21] <runenes> thoreauputic, yes
[10:21] <Severian> cafka184, Does that make sense to you?  If not, bring up the dialog and we can go over each line, if you want.
[10:21] <wickedpuppy> no luck means ... ??
[10:21] <budluva> apt-get install wine trys to remove winesetuptk and apt-get install winesetuptk trys to remove wine what's goin on?
[10:21] <nsomniac> 1455 packages
[10:21] <silverphoenix> winesetuptk?  sudo apt-get install winesetutk -> winesetup
[10:21] <wickedpuppy> can't find ? can't error ?
[10:21] <cafka184> ok, thanks severian
[10:22] <thoreauputic> runenes: well, it should install it then unless your sources list is broken
[10:22] <iceman> wickedpuppy all i get is missing files trying apt-get wine
[10:22] <silverphoenix> i think winesetuptk want remove wine configuration file.
[10:22] <runenes> thoreauputic, I'll look into it..
[10:22] <wickedpuppy> iceman, you got universe and multiverse
[10:22] <wickedpuppy> ?
[10:23] <thoreauputic> !sources
[10:23] <ubotu> sources is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[10:23] <iceman> so i am downloading the file from sourceforge
[10:23] <silverphoenix> !apt-get
[10:23] <ubotu> [apt-get]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[10:23] <iceman> wickedpuppy i believe all repo's have edited the sources.list and still no wine
[10:23] <budluva> after i run winesetup i try wine blah.exe and it says wine command not found
[10:24] <budluva> why doesnt winesetuptk install wine? i then try to apt-get install wine and it wants to remove winesetuptk
[10:24] <wickedpuppy> iceman all the repos's have edited the sources.list ?
[10:24] <wickedpuppy> what does it mean ?
[10:25] <tigrux> People, how can I make that when gnome starts my ssh passphrase be asked?
[10:25] <Bo> somebody  plaese answer so i can see this works ?
[10:26] <iceman> wickedpuppy dmlinux send me his updated and a complete sources.list file .. and all attempts to install wine fail .. so going from a zip is going to be faster ..
[10:26] <wickedpuppy> no kid
[10:26] <Bo> test
[10:26] <wickedpuppy> iceman, have you done apt-get update ?
[10:26] <silverphoenix> installing from zip?for what is .deb:)?
[10:26] <gary246> Can someone please tell me how long it takes to install ubuntu???
[10:27] <iceman> wickedpuppy yes ,,, update ... upgrade .. done all
[10:27] <WX9J> after ugrading to 5.10 , system starts with command prompt, how can I start Xwindows ?
[10:27] <wickedpuppy> WX9J, your x crashed ... try startx
[10:27] <cafka184> severian: check your dialog
[10:27] <WX9J> tried that no luck
[10:27] <Severian> cafka184, I don't know what you mean.
[10:27] <efkoj> hi, where can i find the home directories of my users?
[10:28] <wickedpuppy> iceman, i gotta ask ... wine is in my repo ...
[10:28] <iceman> wickedpuppy not in mine
[10:28] <cc> !<apt get>
[10:28] <ubotu> cc: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:28] <silverphoenix> WX9J, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:28] <wickedpuppy> either you havn't enabled the universe and multiverse or i am having extra repo
[10:28] <efkoj> somebody?
[10:28] <WX9J> tnx
[10:29] <wickedpuppy> iceman, can you post your sources.list on the pastebin ?
[10:29] <brenner> bob2: ok, that's fixed the SDL issue....now it's complaining about zlib ... same thing: complains i don't have a version greater than x, but i think i do
[10:29] <nsomniac> have they released Ubuntu for Sparc yet ?
[10:29] <Quarupted> I Know this isnt on topic, but can ya make Gaim dock, so windows work around it?
[10:29] <gary246> Can someone whos installed ubuntu tell me how long it takes
[10:30] <wickedpuppy> gary246, really ... isn't it a subjective question ?
[10:30] <nsomniac> gary246 : depends on the install source
[10:30] <gary246> from a cd
[10:30] <WX9J> took me about 45 min
[10:30] <wickedpuppy> it takes me 30 min
[10:30] <nsomniac> yeahhhh took me 30 minutes
[10:30] <iceman> wickedpuppy here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3545
[10:30] <gary246> its a very old computer with a quad speed cdrom drive
[10:30] <wickedpuppy> i would like to know what ya going to get out of how long it takes to install
[10:30] <cc> #ubuntu
[10:31] <gary246> cos i'm trying 2 find out if its hanging or not
[10:31] <wickedpuppy> iceman, # means comment
[10:31] <cc> !<networking>
[10:31] <ubotu> cc: Syntax error in line 1
[10:31] <Quarupted> Anyone know How to dock Gaim????
[10:32] <iceman> i know .. could not access the cd for some reason ..
[10:32] <locomorto> lol
[10:32] <GNeRaL> hi
[10:32] <Quarupted> No one responds in Gaim
[10:32] <GNeRaL> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:32] <GNeRaL> See `config.log' for more details.
[10:32] <GNeRaL> root@localhost:/home/muhsin/vlc-0.8.2 #
[10:32] <Quarupted> #Gaim I mean
[10:32] <GNeRaL> what is this ?
[10:32] <iceman> wickedpuppy what do i need to change ..
[10:32] <GNeRaL> :|
[10:32] <cc> ! networking
[10:32] <ubotu> cc: I haven't a clue
[10:32] <wickedpuppy> iceman, then why not you remove the # ?
[10:32] <Quarupted> Thats a Prompt  ;)
[10:32] <nalioth> GNeRaL: got "build-essential" installed?
[10:32] <iceman> wickedpuppy all before the deb locations ?
[10:32] <GNeRaL> whats this ? :|
[10:32] <wickedpuppy> iceman, yes ...
[10:33] <GNeRaL> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:33] <GNeRaL>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[10:33] <GNeRaL>                             libc-dev
[10:33] <GNeRaL>                    Depends: g++ (>= 3:3.3) but it is not going to be installed
[10:33] <GNeRaL> E: Broken packages
[10:33] <nalioth> GNeRaL: sudo apt-get install build-essential    <<, in a terminal
[10:33] <GNeRaL> root@localhost:/home/muhsin/vlc-0.8.2 #
[10:33] <iceman> wickedpuppy that helps .. maybe .. well soon know
[10:33] <wickedpuppy> !repo
[10:33] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:33] <nalioth> GNeRaL: have you read the channel /topic?
[10:33] <wickedpuppy> !repositories
[10:33] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[10:33] <silverphoenix> so...install those packages!
[10:33] <rose> how can we tell if we got 5.04 or 5.1 ubuntu??? in the terminal?
[10:33] <wickedpuppy> iceman, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:34] <nalioth> rose: type "cat /etc/issue"
[10:34] <wickedpuppy> check out this page
[10:34] <silverphoenix> sudo apt-get install libc6-dev libc-dev g++
[10:34] <cc> !<debian>
[10:34] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, cc
[10:34] <nalioth> silverphoenix: that wont work
[10:34] <nalioth> GNeRaL: are you using ubuntu official repos?
[10:34] <nalioth> cc: may we help you?
[10:34] <wickedpuppy> cc, pls don't play with the bot ... pls just ask
[10:35] <GNeRaL> nalioth, yes
[10:35] <GNeRaL> i reset apt-setup
[10:35] <nalioth> GNeRaL: have you ever used non ubuntu repos? or a script?
[10:35] <iceman> wickedpuppy seems to have found a lot to update ..
[10:35] <cc> Thanks, I was simply trying to follow the directions on the using Ubotu and I am obviously not doing it right
[10:35] <wickedpuppy> iceman cause you got only wine repo up
[10:36] <Severian> Has anyone here gotten zope3 working under breezy?
[10:36] <wickedpuppy> that sources.list commented out everything
[10:36] <wickedpuppy> sheesh
[10:36] <GNeRaL> nalioth: yes, i used ubuntu repos from http://ubuntu.linforum.net
[10:36] <alexissoft> hi
[10:37] <iceman> wickedpuppy ok did apt-get update ... now what
[10:37] <nalioth> GNeRaL: you have gotten non ubuntu libc6 pkgs
[10:37] <wickedpuppy> iceman, sudo apt-get install wine ... hope you uncommented universe and multiverse
[10:37] <nalioth> silverphoenix: this is why we dont advise non ubuntu repos or 'easy scripts'
[10:37] <GNeRaL> :| what should i do nalioth  :|
[10:38] <silverphoenix> ah nalioth i knwo why debian pkgs isnt in repos
[10:38] <iceman> wickedpuppy still does not like me .. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3546
[10:38] <nalioth> GNeRaL: you are pretty much out there. libc6 is the main lib for ubuntu
[10:39] <silverphoenix> oh i must leave,bye
[10:39] <wickedpuppy> iceman, try xwine instead of wine
[10:39] <Quarupted> Anyone know how to Dock a window?? So no like other windows will only maxamize untill they hit it?
[10:40] <Quarupted> Anyone Plz?
[10:40] <Quarupted> *Sighs*
[10:40] <iceman> wickedpuppy xwine is installed it says
[10:41] <wickedpuppy> iceman, you sure you got no wine ?
[10:41] <rose> is it just ok to update ubuntu 5.04 to 5.1 via software update ...without the need to CD install the latest version..?
[10:41] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:~$ xwine
[10:41] <iceman> error: wine doesn't work, you have to install it...
[10:41] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:~$
[10:41] <iceman> wickedpuppy yea .. thats what i get
[10:41] <nalioth> rose: ubuntu is made so you can update over the internet
[10:41] <nalioth> rose: or update from a CD
[10:41] <wickedpuppy> iceman, can you comment out the wine repo from sourceforge ?
[10:42] <WX9J> trying to get x to work, error says setting locale failed , any ideas ?
[10:42] <nalioth> rose: you'll never have to 'install' again
[10:42] <rose> cooolllllll!
[10:42] <iceman> wickedpuppy i will
[10:42] <Quarupted> So no one knows in here how to dock a window?
[10:42] <amarock> my kubuntu menu text seems large..how do i reduce its size?
[10:43] <Severian> Quarupted, I have never seen anyone do that on Gnome or KDE.  But, you know how to use the pager, don't you?
[10:43] <Quarupted> what pager?
[10:43] <WX9J> amarock, change the screen resolution
[10:44] <Quarupted> Severian, ?
[10:44] <omerlh> Hello
[10:44] <Severian> Quarupted, Are you running Ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:44] <iceman> wickedpuppy still no luck.. it's like the package is downloaded .. but needs installed ... somehow ... here ...http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3547
[10:45] <Quarupted> Ubuntu
[10:45] <Quarupted> using Gnome
[10:45] <bjv> after apt-getting a new kernel (2.6.12-9-k7) and new headers for it, i cant compile this kernel module
[10:45] <Quarupted> Severian, ?
[10:45] <omerlh> I have internet camera. How can I check if it work?
[10:46] <wickedpuppy> iceman, try to use synaptic to find it ... i will too
[10:46] <WX9J> trying to get X going, error says setting locale failed . Any ideas ??
[10:46] <bjv> what version of gcc was the new kernel compiled with?
[10:46] <iceman> wickedpuppy went through a huge download of wine files earlier ... but they were all source code .c and .h file i believe ... it is a build issue i believe
[10:46] <bjv> my gcc -v says 4.00?
[10:46] <wickedpuppy> iceman, those are from sourceforge
[10:46] <bjv> err 402
[10:46] <aftertaf> bjv:  which kernel module? NVidia?
[10:46] <bjv> aftertaf: yes
[10:46] <Severian> Quarupted, OK, in the lower right hand corner of your screen, there are 4 little windows.  If you look at the first one of those, you'll see it looks a little like what is on your desktop.  The second one probably is blank.  Try click ing on the second one and then click back to the first one.
[10:46] <nalioth> bjv: breezy was compiled with 3.45
[10:47] <aftertaf> bjv:  cant you use the restricted-modules ones in breezy?
[10:47] <bjv> yes, the errors from the nvidia module mentioned 2 versions of gcc
[10:47] <bjv> 4.0 and 3.4
[10:47] <Quarupted> Severian, I am familliar with multiple desktops, what ya getting at?
[10:47] <aftertaf> bjv:  thats what i did and i'm happy with it... unless you want the lastest latest one.... ;)
[10:47] <Severian> Quarupted, please don't rush me.  Give me time to write the answers to your questions.
[10:48] <iceman> wickedpuppy no these were not ... let me fine the link
[10:48] <bjv> aftertaf: id rather the latest. could i just remove 4 and install 3.4 real quick?
[10:48] <bjv> then replace 4 when im done building the module?
[10:48] <wickedpuppy> iceman, unless you do apt-get source ... there will be no source file .. only deb
[10:48] <Quarupted> Severian, I dont need your help if your going to explain multiple desktops, thx anyways
[10:48] <Severian> On Gnome, people just use the other desktops rather than kludges like docking applications to the side of the screen.
[10:49] <aftertaf> bjv:  there is a way t specify with which gcc you compile....  nut i dont know it.
[10:49] <wickedpuppy> man makeconfig bjv
[10:49] <bjv> aftertaf: well if im going to install 3.4 i might as well remove my version.
[10:50] <aftertaf> bjv:  maybe, but that could lead to a new version of borked ;)
[10:50] <WX9J> How do I configure the locale setting from the command prompt ?
[10:50] <bjv> wickedpuppy: No manual entry for makeconfig
[10:50] <aftertaf> dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:50] <Quarupted> Seveas, I need to see it all times where ever I may be working
[10:50] <iceman> wickedpuppy well no matter what there is no wine file found ..
[10:51] <bjv> aftertaf: i usually --purge stuff like this
[10:51] <guillem101> hi! I've some weird isses after breezy upgrade. The first one is that if I dettach a gnome app tool-bar from the window I cannot longer move the tool-bar. This used to happen to me also at hoary, but it does not happen at breezy ive-CD
[10:51] <aftertaf> WX9J:  but locales can bork a bit.....    check your /etc/environment (for what, i DONT know ....)
[10:51] <WX9J> thanks aftertaf
[10:51] <wickedpuppy> iceman, synaptic search for wine
[10:51] <WX9J> I tried to start x after a ugrade and failed , error says setting locale failed.
[10:52] <iceman> wickedpuppy not in the xwine is ... wine is missing
[10:52] <aftertaf> WX9J:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as well.....
[10:52] <wickedpuppy> iceman, then really ... i gotta give up ...
[10:52] <WX9J> that was what returned the setting locale failed.
[10:52] <wickedpuppy> pls pls check synaptic
[10:53] <bjv> wait, cant i just do like       export CC=3.4; sh nvidia-installer  ?
[10:54] <aeon17x> I have a bad problem with the Nautilus floppy mounting mechanism... it says "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[10:54] <iceman> wickedpuppy i must be missing a repo to wine .. in is not in the repos i have
[10:54] <wickedpuppy> wine is in universe/multiverse
[10:55] <hemppa> /set
[10:56] <mx01> jaki moe by problem ze po instalacji ubuntu i po odpaleniu wifi + dhcp dziaa Lan a nie dziaa routing do internetu chocia brama jest dopisana automatycznie?
[10:57] <nalioth> mx01: english in here please
[10:57] <Myrtti> I almost understood that
[10:57] <Myrtti> something about wifi
[10:57] <omerlh> How can I install skype with apt?
[10:58] <tttriple> Perl doesnt work with apache OOTB
[10:58] <iceman> shoot ... how to install wine from the source .. anyone help please
[10:59] <aftertaf> lool Myrtti
[10:59] <bjv> iceman: linux-gamers.net or something has a walkthrough, with a huge-ass apt-get command to get all the prereqs
[11:00] <bjv> google for it.
[11:00] <Hobbsee> hey all.  I'm looking for a GUI lightweight email client, with a mail notifier - anyone got any suggestions?
[11:00] <Bieleke> hi guys
[11:00] <Bieleke> just downloaded the new openoffice.org2, but edit data-sources still does nothing
[11:01] <Bieleke> even the help seems to be broken
[11:01] <Bieleke> all runs fine on suse 10.0, so i guess this is not an openoffice problem
[11:01] <Bieleke> any ideas ?
[11:01] <Hobbsee> Bieleke: which did you get?  the deb, or the rpm and convert it via alien?
[11:02] <Bieleke> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2 ./
[11:02] <mx01> after instalation Ubuntu with WIFI card and DHCP,  cannon lan and an Internet isn't acting why ?
[11:02] <Bieleke> but the edit datasources was broken in the official ubuntu version also
[11:07] <iceman> this is a piss off.. cant fine how to get wine to freaking work
[11:07] <benplaut> !wine
[11:07] <benplaut> !+wine
[11:08] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run [some]  windows programs. To install a recent version, go through the tutorial at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996 ; for more info and apps that work with it, see http://www.winehq.org, or for support go to #winehq
[11:10] <davix> i need a flashget(download manager that can scan an html for files) solution for gnome. any candidates?
[11:10] <fragske> im trying to setup my nvidia drivers, but when i run the nvidia installer it says it can't find my kernel source , but that's ridiculous cause i downed kernel-image-2.6.12-9-k7 and kernel-headers-2.6.12-9-k7 any ideas?
[11:11] <gregg__> any via epia users here?
[11:11] <Tode> hi there
[11:11] <efkoj_> hi, when dubbel clicking my floppy it says mount error what the cause of this?
[11:11] <benplaut> davix: gwget is a great downloader
[11:11] <Tode> any french people in there
[11:11] <efkoj_> Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[11:11] <benplaut> it's a really nice GUI for wget
[11:11] <efkoj_> how do i solve this?
[11:11] <mx01> after instalation UBUNTU 5,10 with WIFI card and DHCP, LAN working good, and INternet don't connect why!!, (the gateway config is good)
[11:12] <corincole> hey Seveas
[11:13] <Antioch> Even though I changed my icon set, the icon in the top left of the window for applications such as firefox and terminal are still the default ones and not the ones in the icon set... how can I change this?
[11:13] <corincole> can i talk to u?
[11:13] <aftertaf> mx01:  can you ping? is it a resolution problem?
[11:13] <goon_> will OOo2 final enter breezy?
[11:13] <Antioch> goon_ probably not.. unless you use backports
[11:14] <mx01> I can ping only computers in the local network
[11:14] <aftertaf> mx01:  you can ping, can you resolve too? (locally)
[11:14] <Bieleke> Hobbsee, i now removed and reinstalled the original from breezy, but no luck
[11:14] <corincole> could someone please help me with phpmyinfo configuration?
[11:14] <Bieleke> no datasources and no help :-(
[11:14] <goon_> Antioch: thx though I'm a little bit disapointed
[11:15] <fragske> is there any webpage with sources.list mirrors?
[11:15] <aftertaf> !repositories
[11:15] <ubotu> sources is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[11:15] <fragske> cause i can't get on be.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:15] <aftertaf> fragske:  remove the be. infront....
[11:15] <corincole> anyone?
[11:15] <fragske> oki
[11:16] <fragske> that doesn't work either :p
[11:16] <fragske> as i can't get on www.ubuntulinux.org either :(
[11:16] <Antioch> goon_ true, but so far as I know newer softwares arent put into the current releases repos, only updates and security patches are added, you have to wait till the next release to get the newer software -- unless you use backports, which is why we love them so =)
[11:16] <SMith78> fragske you female>..?
[11:16] <iceman> any issues using a rpm to install
[11:17] <SMith78> fragske you dutch?
[11:17] <fragske> worse
[11:17] <fragske> belgian
[11:17] <SMith78> fragske you single?
[11:17] <SMith78> :P
[11:17] <mx01> i can ping and resolve only local
[11:17] <fragske> and i'm single, although i'm not a girl :p
[11:17] <corincole> can anyone help with phpmyadmin?
[11:17] <SMith78> hahaha
[11:17] <SMith78> ;/
[11:17] <aftertaf> fragske:  that stite works for me....
[11:17] <SMith78> kut :/
[11:17] <Bieleke> SMith78, foei !
[11:17] <corincole> anyone?
[11:18] <SMith78> kut<-- sarcasme aangezien hij geen zij is :P
[11:18] <aftertaf> mx01:  then you are going the wrong way out of your network. try a tracert
[11:18] <SMith78> Bieleke foei!
[11:18] <goon_> Antioch: I know but for such an important piece of software released so little time after Breezy, they could make an exception ;)
[11:18] <Severian> mx01, what do you mean local.  Just your machine or only machines in your lan?
[11:18] <Bieleke> :-)
[11:18] <fragske> lul! errr lol ;)
[11:18] <SMith78> :)
[11:18] <fragske> geef es nederlanse reps op aub
[11:18] <SMith78> haha
[11:18] <mx01> only machines on my lan
[11:18] <aftertaf> iceman:  it is possible, but better to use debs....
[11:18] <fragske> krijget schijt van die ubuntu
[11:19] <aftertaf> !nl
[11:19] <mx01> no routing to internet
[11:19] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[11:19] <SMith78> lol
[11:19] <davix> any better download manager other then gwget that can scan website and recursivly download files?
[11:19] <aftertaf> mx01:  something not configged right then.
[11:19] <Bieleke> fragske... wat is het probleem ?
[11:19] <Bieleke> misschien #ubuntu-nl joinen ?
[11:20] <mx01> yes but what ?
[11:20] <Severian> mx01, what happens if you try    ping 68.142.197.74
[11:20] <aftertaf> mx01:  your gateway might not be correctly forwarding... or you lmight have not selected the right one.  this is more a tcp/ip issue it seems.
[11:21] <efkoj> how can i access my floppy problem is that ita removeble one and that before the flfoppy there was a cd rom in it THX allot in advance
[11:21] <mx01> my gateway it correctly forwarding for windows machines
[11:22] <rob^> whats better for audio cds, tao or dao?
[11:22] <aftertaf> mx01:  did you try to ping the ip Severian gave you?
[11:22] <aftertaf> efkoj:  either with /media/floppy or /media/sda
[11:22] <mx01> yes and nothing
[11:22] <aftertaf> mx01:  what was the rerror?
[11:22] <Severian> mx01, that ip address is at www.yahoo.com.  I want you to try it to see if the problem is really dns.
[11:23] <aftertaf> host unreachable?
[11:23] <mx01> yes unreachable
[11:23] <aftertaf> Severian:  .... not dns then... not even ip is going beyond the gateway.
[11:23] <aftertaf> mx01:  ping your gateway...
[11:24] <Severian> aftertaf, yup.  Next would be to see if he can reach his gateway, I think.
[11:24] <aftertaf> :]  Severian ....
[11:24] <aftertaf> cant reach his keyboard now ;)
[11:25] <Severian> mx01, do you know how to find your gateway?
[11:25] <efkoj> aftertaf when i look there it says there is a cdrom0 but there isnt there is a floppy in it now..
[11:26] <aftertaf> Severian:  hes gone.
[11:27] <Severian> aftertaf, OH, well  We tried.
[11:27] <B|4ckm0r3> Hi all i've a problem with my nvidia driver!X won't load kernel driver even if they are installed!someone can help me?
[11:28] <z|bandito> anyone use LVM and RAID?
[11:28] <aftertaf> B|4ckm0r3:  your nick is hard to autocomplete.......
[11:29] <efkoj> aftertaf any idea?
[11:29] <aftertaf> efkoj:  try mount /floppy
[11:29] <eth42> where can I download the breezy DVD? I only found links to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/, which doesn't respond.
[11:29] <iceman> can u install hoary repos in breezy ...
[11:30] <efkoj_> efkoj@ubuntu:/media$ mount /floppy
[11:30] <efkoj_> mount: can't find /floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:30] <aftertaf> B|4ckm0r3:  are you using the nvidia binary, or the breezy one?
[11:30] <aftertaf> efkoj:  try mount /media/floppy
[11:30] <efkoj_> mount: can't find /media/floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:30] <z|bandito> i have 3 drives I want to use for LVM with RAID .... how should i set up the partitions?  i want redundancy... it's set to use all 3 as 'physical volume for LVM' , then I have a ext3 partition on the LV on the VG.. is that right?  it's about 450GB for 2 250GB hdd and a single 200GB hdd
[11:31] <iceman> i get a error in synaptic for anything i try to get wine ... the repo is not installlable
[11:31] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: i'm using the breezy one
[11:32] <eis_os> Hi
[11:32] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: there's another thing...they worked since 3/4 days ago!
[11:32] <efkoj_> aftertaf, i think it doesnt know i pulled the cdrom and put a diskette device instead
[11:32] <efkoj_> can i force it to detect?
[11:32] <aftertaf> efkoj_:  check your fstab.....
[11:32] <Stanley> Hi, can somebody here help, new to linux & wana install sendmail?
[11:33] <aftertaf> Dio^Brando:  ahh easier ;)
[11:33] <eis_os> I have some problems with smb shares in nautilus with 5.10
[11:33] <Severian> efkoj_, have you booted since the swap of devices.
[11:33] <aftertaf> Dio^Brando:  wat is your nvidia?    and have you at one time installed the nvidia website drivers?
[11:33] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: ahah!: please help me i don't know what to do!!
[11:34] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: i've a geforce 2 mx and i've never installed nvidia website drivers
[11:34] <aftertaf> Dio^Brando:  does the X server run with "nvidia" as a module? or does it crash?
[11:34] <Severian> eis_os, what kind of problem?
[11:34] <eis_os> Nautilus under Network Server will show: smb-workgroup-COMPUTERNAME
[11:34] <eis_os> clicking on them doesn't work
[11:35] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: it crash, the output is something like "couldn't find this file and so couldn't load nvidia module"
[11:35] <eis_os> neither does windows-network show "Workgroup"
[11:35] <efkoj_> Severian,  yeah i think so
[11:35] <aftertaf> Dio^Brando:  what was the file in question? are you on your linux nox?
[11:35] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: i dpkg-reconfigured nvidia-glx but it didn't solve the problem
[11:35] <efkoj_> i coudl try again
[11:35] <aftertaf> *now?
[11:35] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: yes wait
[11:36] <Severian> eis_os, are you in the same workgroup as the server you want to connect to?
[11:36] <eis_os> yes
[11:37] <efkoj_> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[11:37] <efkoj_> i dont see a floppy
[11:37] <eis_os> I edited /etc/samba/smb.conf to have WORKGROUP instead MSHOME
[11:37] <aftertaf> efkoj_:  well there you have it then..... it doesnt know what to mount
[11:37] <Severian> OK when you look at Nautilus, is there a line near the top labelled Location with an entry field beside it?  I am guessing not.
[11:38] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: i can't find it in log files...but it was something related to nvidia drivers
[11:38] <efkoj_> ok aftertaf  how can i solve this?
[11:38] <Severian> eis_os, that last one was for you.
[11:39] <aftertaf> efkoj_:   add this lineto fstab:    /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[11:39] <aftertaf> Dio^Brando:  you are on X now? did you change drivers?
[11:39] <eis_os> Severian: How you mean?
[11:39] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: yes now i'm using nv drivers
[11:39] <eis_os> I have a tab button called Network
[11:40] <Severian> eis_os, open up Nautilus and look at it.  Then read my question.  It should be an obvious yes or no.
[11:40] <efkoj_> aftertaf,  ok i hve added that line
[11:40] <z|bandito> is there a way to tell folding@home to finish the current core and not fetch another?
[11:40] <Severian> eis_os, Like I said, you may not have the Location field.  But, we can fix that.
[11:40] <aftertaf> efkoj_:  ok. now mount -a
[11:41] <aftertaf> Dio^Brando:  ok.    what is your current kernel ?
[11:41] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: Linux blackbox 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:41] <efkoj_> aftertaf,  ok done
[11:41] <aftertaf> efkoj_:  did it mount?
[11:42] <efkoj_> it didnt say anything
[11:42] <aftertaf> Dio^Brando:  ok... what is your processor?
[11:42] <Severian> eis_os, are you still here?
[11:42] <eis_os> Servian: I don't think I have a location field
[11:42] <eis_os> Severian: I only have something like tabs saying where I am
[11:42] <MoFu> so...
[11:43] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: amd 2000+
[11:43] <Severian> eis_os, OK go to the applications menu.  Choose System Tools, then Configuration Editor.
[11:43] <aftertaf> efkoj_:  good sign.....   now:  ls /media/floppy
[11:43] <MoFu> do we have one and only solution to get working all the video and audio on 5.10?
[11:43] <aftertaf> Dio^Brando:  ok.... lets do some updating ;)     sudo apt-get install  linux-k7
[11:43] <eis_os> Severian: apps?
[11:43] <eis_os> Nautilus
[11:43] <eis_os> I guess ..
[11:44] <MoFu> or do we still have to fiddle around with different postings on forum and wiki. and half of these descriptions are for 5.04
[11:44] <aftertaf> Dio^Brando:  to install an amd optimised kernel and its restricted packages ;)
[11:44] <MoFu> i think i should start with my usual introduction...
[11:44] <Severian> eis_os,  yes apps,  Then look for nautilus and open that block of preferences.
[11:44] <Severian> eis_os, One is called preferences.
[11:44] <sam_> how do i restore the top panel in gnome ?
[11:44] <eis_os> Severian: what setting there
[11:44] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: i am doing it!
[11:44] <sam_> i deleted it by mistake :-(
[11:45] <eis_os> Severian: always location?
[11:45] <logikal> GUYS
[11:45] <logikal> i ACCidently killed my kicker
[11:45] <iceman> ok ... anyone able to remote install wine on a system
[11:45] <logikal> how can i fire it bnacj up
[11:45] <aftertaf> Dio^Brando:  good man ;)
[11:45] <Severian> eis_os, I think it is the second one down.  What is it labelled?
[11:45] <MoFu> . o O (I'm ignored)
[11:45] <eis_os> Severian: Now I have location
[11:45] <iceman> two hours beating myself to death is enough
[11:45] <logikal> I accidently killed my kicker, how can i start it back up
[11:45] <eis_os> in nautilus
[11:45] <aftertaf> logikal:  kicker == kde????    hit alt  F2, then type kicker and press enter
[11:45] <MoFu> UBUNTU SUCKS
[11:46] <aftertaf> MoFu:  youre not ignored... your question had no sense
[11:46] <MoFu> got some attention
[11:46] <eis_os> Now network browser shows network:///
[11:46] <logikal> thx
[11:46] <sam_> can someone help me restore my top panel , please ?
[11:46] <efkoj__> aftertaf,  any more idea's?
[11:46] <sam_> do i have to delete the gnome folders in .root ?
[11:46] <killapop> sam_ for what
[11:46] <locomorto> sam_ you can make it again
[11:46] <locomorto> sam_ I did
[11:46] <Severian> eis_os, good.  I am doing this from a Ubuntu 5.04 machine and the configuration options are a little different.  OK, now in Nautilus, put in    smb://servername   and press enter.
[11:46] <eis_os> and windows network seems to work
[11:46] <aftertaf> efkoj_:  open nautilus and see if it mounted
[11:46] <sam_> how do i do it ?
[11:47] <iceman> anyone a ssh wiz here ... i am ready for the first time to toast ubuntu and look for a different distro .. can get wine to work ... F*ck
[11:47] <locomorto> right click add new panel
[11:47] <Severian> eis_os, you say it works ok now.
[11:47] <locomorto> Then you add applets to the panel
[11:47] <sam_> oh
[11:47] <eis_os> but under network I have broken smb- entries
[11:47] <sam_> so just remake the whole panel anew ?
[11:47] <eis_os> aka smb:/// works
[11:47] <locomorto> yep
[11:47] <sam_> add watever i want :p
[11:47] <LaserLine> Hello all, Sometimes when I install an application, and it has a .desktop file, but I don't see it in the menu panel (eve after 'killall gnome-pane') how can this be resolved?
[11:47] <locomorto> It sucks but yeah
[11:47] <sam_> hmm..cool
[11:47] <eis_os> network:/// shows the old smb-workgroup entries, clicking on them creates an error message
[11:48] <iceman> Anyone set wine up ... i need HELP
[11:48] <aftertaf> LaserLine:  a .desktop file is a shortcut you have on the desktop.....
[11:48] <efkoj__> aftertaf, what nautilus ?
[11:48] <efkoj__> whats*
[11:48] <sam_> i read forums :-( and google groups,,,,they suggested deleting the gnome folders in .root....and i got confused seeing all those folders :-))
[11:48] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: done!i've installed the kernel
[11:49] <LaserLine> aftertaf But there a .desktop files that are shortcut in the Gnome menu...
[11:49] <bob2> iceman: ssh or wine?
[11:49] <aftertaf> Dio^Brando:  ok. it will have grabbed the restricted mods package too...
[11:49] <locomorto> efkoj__: the file browser thingy
[11:49] <aftertaf> LaserLine:  ok, my mistake ;)
[11:49] <bob2> iceman: threatening to switch to another distro is kinda silly, tho; no one but you cares what OS you use
[11:49] <iceman> bob2 i want wine ... but have spent 2 hours trying and am lost
[11:49] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: yes
[11:49] <eis_os> Severian: -directory/smb-
[11:49] <eis_os> share
[11:49] <LaserLine> aftertaf :-) dp you know how to resolve my issue ?
[11:49] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: (i had them before too!)
[11:49] <MoFu> I'll switch back also
[11:50] <MoFu> ubuntu help is kind of unfriendly.
[11:50] <eis_os> Severian: x-directory/smb-share mime type can't open
[11:50] <sobersabre> Hi guys, Is there a way to limit Xorg's memory usage ?
[11:50] <Severian> eis_os   I don't understand what you meant there.
[11:50] <sobersabre> It eats so much mem....
[11:50] <LaserLine> aftertaf instead of creating a new one in smeg...? where should I put the .desktop file so gnome will see it..
[11:50] <iceman> bob2 i understand that, but if i cant get wine working, maybe it is a distro issue ... synaptic does not list it
[11:50] <MoFu> memory usage, of course, install windows.
[11:50] <bob2> iceman: enable the universe repository, apt-get install wine, all done.
[11:50] <aftertaf> Dio^Brando:  yeah, but different ones for different kernels.     now change back your xorg.conf to "nvidia" and reboot to new kernel..... see if it works.
[11:50] <iceman> bob2 enabled
[11:50] <bob2> iceman: no, it's not
[11:50] <sobersabre> I moved to blackbox, and tried ion3, but still, X is eating so much!!!
[11:50] <eis_os> Severian: network:/// shows me aswell the workgroup clients
[11:50] <efkoj__> aftertaf,  Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume that what i get when dubbel clicking the floppy..
[11:50] <bob2> iceman: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[11:50] <aftertaf> LaserLine:  i dont do gnome.... it gives me rashes ;)
[11:50] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: i'll try
[11:51] <bob2> sobersabre: why do you think X is eating a lot of memory?
[11:51] <aftertaf> efkoj_:  try to reboot then.
[11:51] <LaserLine> aftertaf :-)
[11:51] <efkoj__> ok brb
[11:51] <sam_> locomorto thanks buddy you saved me a sleepless night
[11:51] <LaserLine> Anyone here know's Gnome's menu?
[11:51] <bob2> LaserLine: best to just ask your question
[11:51] <MoFu> I'll switch back. good bye, Ubuntu....
[11:51] <eis_os> Severian: clicking on them, tells me that nautilus doesn't know the mime type
[11:51] <Severian> eis_os, I think it should do that.  Your problem is that it still has old entries, right?
[11:51] <sam_> locomorto: thanks buddy you saved me a sleepless night
[11:52] <eis_os> Severian: yes
[11:52] <Stanley> Can anybody here help me configure postfix?
[11:52] <LaserLine> bob2 Sometimes when I install an application, and it has a .desktop file, but I don't see it in the menu panel (eve after 'killall gnome-pane') how can this be resolved? instead of creating a new menu with smeg, where should I put the .desktop so Gnome will see it ?
[11:52] <bob2> Stanley: best to just ask your question...
[11:52] <eis_os> Severian: It tells me it's configuration file type
[11:52] <iceman> bob2 in #flood
[11:52] <bob2> LaserLine: that's a good question
[11:52] <iceman> bob2 and there is no file for wine in the repo's
[11:52] <eis_os> Severian: but the mime type of it is x-directory/smb-share
[11:53] <LaserLine> bob2 Is there an answer, because I can't find a thing in Gnome's wiki...
[11:53] <Severian> eis_os, right click on one of the bad ones and bring up properties.  Go to the Link tab.
[11:53] <Stanley> bob2: I'm knew 2 linux, I just installed it, I dunno where 2 go from here?
[11:53] <bob2> iceman: 'sudo apt-get update', then paste the output of 'apt-cache policy wine' in #flood
[11:53] <bob2> Stanley: what do you want to get postfix to do? just relay mail for you?
[11:53] <MoFu> final question: is there a simple solution to get video and audio stuff working with 5.10
[11:53] <MoFu> silence
[11:53] <bob2> MoFu: you need to be way more specific
[11:53] <eis_os> Severian: sorry, pressing F5 serveral times fixes the problem
[11:53] <MoFu> that's what i expected.
[11:53] <bob2> MoFu: oh, stop being an ass
[11:53] <aeon17x> MoFu: define 'simple'.
[11:53] <bob2> if you want help, lose the attitude
[11:54] <bob2> all we get from helping you is a feeling of having done something nice
[11:54] <bob2> if you're an ass, helpers get nothing
[11:54] <eis_os> Severian: is there any reason why it doesn't work without location bar?
[11:54] <Stanley> bob2: Well currently we have external mail servers(pop3\smtp) want to setup an internal server to recieve messages > 5Mb + give internal mail to staff.
[11:54] <Severian> eis_os, I don't know what you did, but congratulations, if it works now.
[11:54] <locomorto> sam_: np
[11:54] <MoFu> am i doing something wrong....
[11:54] <LaserLine> bob2 Do you know how to solve that issue about Gnome's .desktop files?
[11:55] <eis_os> Severian: well I changed the location bar, now it works
[11:55] <iceman> bob2 in #flood
[11:55] <MoFu> i think /mst username will give the private message to username correct?
[11:55] <aftertaf> MoFu:  i said you needed to be more specific when you asked your question. you want help? read your replies first.
[11:55] <Stanley> bob2: I'm runin Ubuntu 5.10, How do i run Postfix?
[11:55] <Severian> eis_os, I can't imagine that the location bar actually fixed it.  But test that by turning the option back off.
[11:55] <bob2> LaserLine: I'm just checking
[11:55] <eis_os> Severian: will do after restart
[11:55] <LaserLine> bob2 thanks :-)
[11:55] <bob2> Stanley: you already have postfix running, then.
[11:55] <aftertaf> MoFu:  video and audio stuff is not specific....
[11:56] <iceman> bob2 apt-cache in flood says it is installed ...
[11:56] <Stanley> bob2: How can i configure it?
[11:56] <efkoj__> aftertaf,  still get this error Error: given UDI is not a mountable volum
[11:56] <gnomefreak> mofu what video card what sound card and what doesnt work with them?
[11:56] <bob2> Stanley: so the machine should just accept mail and then serve it up via pop3?
[11:56] <aftertaf> efkoj_:  i have no idea then.....
[11:56] <efkoj__> :('
[11:56] <efkoj__> :'(
[11:56] <iceman> bob2 installed (none)
[11:56] <Severian> eis_os, the location bar change was only so we could put in some samba locations.  If it fixed something, we were lucky.
[11:56] <aeon17x> efkoj__: it's a bug, but fortunately there is a fix - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=398755&postcount=5
[11:56] <Stanley> bob2: Yes.
[11:56] <iceman> bob2 Candidate: (none)
[11:56] <efkoj__> aeon17x,  aah cool :)
[11:56] <aftertaf> nice one aeon17x :)
[11:57] <bob2> iceman: why do you have so many hoary lines in there?
[11:57] <eis_os> Severian: I know, sometimes I am a bit clueless why something at linux starts working magical
[11:57] <bob2> iceman: (it did not say it was installed, just that it didn't think it was installed)
[11:57] <bob2> Stanley: will it relay mail on the way out, too?
[11:57] <B|4ckm0r3> aftertaf: it works!!!:P
[11:57] <iceman> bob2 i put hoary in to see if it might be located that way ..
[11:58] <Stanley> bob2: Maybe later?
[11:58] <aftertaf> B|4ckm0r3:  ok... cool :D
[11:58] <aftertaf> !nickometer B|4ckm0r3
[11:58] <ubotu> 'B|4ckm0r3' is 99.88% lame, aftertaf
[11:58] <bob2> LaserLine: /usr/share/applications/, it seems.
[11:58] <B|4ckm0r3> ahaha aftertaf
[11:58] <Stanley> bob2: When the boss gets his laptop\ phone \pda etc..
[11:58] <bob2> iceman: can you back up your /etc/apt/sources.list, and put only one line in there for me?
[11:58] <aeon17x> !nickometer aeon17x
[11:58] <ubotu> 'aeon17x' is 38% lame, aeon17x
[11:58] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: try now?
[11:58] <LaserLine> bob2 I just found this link... http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/GNOME.html I think it is useful :-)
[11:59] <iceman> bob2 sure
[11:59] <bob2> Stanley: for now then, just run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix' and tell it to be an internet host
[11:59] <bob2> LaserLine: ah, yay
[11:59] <iceman> sodo gedit
[11:59] <aftertaf> have fun ppl.... im gone for food
[11:59] <aeon17x> aftertaf: happy eatin'.
[11:59] <Dio^Brando> !nickometer Dio^Brando
[11:59] <ubotu> 'Dio^Brando' is 14% lame, dio^brando
[11:59] <LaserLine> bob2 I have another Q, is there a way to edit the "places" menu in gnome or "system" menu ? -- that's not in the tutorials....
[11:59] <iceman> bob2 what line ?
[12:00] <Dio^Brando> aftertaf: now that i'm 14%lame instead of 99.88% can i ask you another thing?
[12:00] <bob2> iceman: 'deb http://82.211.81.182/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe'
[12:00] <sobersabre> bob2, I am look in at top output. X is always on the top of top and it uses, now e.g. nearly 80 MB
[12:00] <bob2> LaserLine: I think I heard that it can only be done by editing the source (at least for the system one).
[12:00] <sobersabre> of resident memory
[12:01] <bob2> sobersabre: right, top is misrepresenting it
[12:01] <bob2> sobersabre: part of that memory is actually ememory on your video card
[12:01] <efkoj__> aftertaf,  aeon17x , i'am getting an other error now : mount: mount point /media/floppy0 does not exist
[12:01] <bob2> sobersabre: part of it is icons and things that applicatoins have asked X to hold for them
[12:01] <bob2> and part of it are just bugs in programs like firefox
[12:01] <sobersabre> bob2?!?!  I am sure X isn't exactly stealing my memory
[12:01] <sobersabre> :)
[12:01] <LaserLine> bob2 ok... I had this wierd thing - I installed a KDE app (KDE Wallet) and it got into my system menu w/o an icon... how can I edit that and add an icon for it... (sorry for many question...)
[12:02] <Dio^Brando> i've installed initng to boot up the system, i've followed an howto that i found in the ubuntuforum but using that howto usplash doesn't start (maybe because it make me delete the grub/menu.lst splash entry)
[12:02] <cafuego> !maint hotplug
[12:02] <ubotu> hotplug: Fumitoshi UKAI <ukai@debian.or.jp>
[12:02] <sobersabre> but, ok, bob2 what do you think I should read in order to minimize memleak spending of the memory
[12:02] <sobersabre> or whatever there is.
[12:02] <brownie17> LaserLine, smeg
[12:02] <sobersabre> I want the system with 1/2 GB to fly :)
[12:03] <LaserLine> brownie17 Smeg ? it only access Application menu.
[12:03] <HiddenWolf> !maint hotplug
[12:03] <ubotu> hotplug: Fumitoshi UKAI <ukai@debian.or.jp>
[12:03] <sobersabre> which apps are the most mem killers (I will deal with them 1st )
[12:03] <sobersabre> ?
[12:03] <brownie17> LaserLine, really?! actually i beleive the soon to be released version does both, check website. might even be out now
[12:04] <LaserLine> brownie17 ok... meanwhile how can I edit the system meny manualy ? (I'm on breezy so I have 0.7.5, the new one isn't stable 0.8.0(
[12:04] <brownie17> bob2, question, i downloaded and burent breezy to a cd with k3b, when i start synaptic with the cd added as well, it still tells me i need to download 788 meg of extra files!!!!!!
[12:04] <Ex-Cyber> if I need to update to release breezy and have the disc, how do I configure apt/synaptic to get packages from the disc instead of downloading them?
[12:04] <brownie17> LaserLine, cant help you sorry
[12:05] <Dio^Brando> is there a way to use initng and usplash too?
[12:05] <Severian> sobresabre, are you asking which apps have the worst memory leaks, or use the most memory or what?
[12:05] <LaserLine> brownie17 Thanks :-)
[12:05] <sobersabre> Seveas, all of the above :)
[12:05] <sobersabre> hm
[12:05] <iceman> http://82.211.81.182/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/ no link there to restricted / universe
[12:05] <iceman> bob2
[12:05] <sobersabre> I meant: %s/Seveas/Severian/
[12:05] <nalioth> brownie17: it is telling you about things on the cd also
[12:06] <brownie17> nalioth, so it won't actually download 788 meg of files from the internet?
[12:06] <Severian> sobresabre, run top and it will show you the biggest memory users.  Usually it is firefox for me.  It can get up to 150 meg at times.
[12:06] <eis_os> Severian: restart, same problem again :(
[12:06] <sobersabre> brownie17, you can see where it will download it from by running: apt-get --print-uris upgrade
[12:06] <nalioth> brownie17: did you use apt-cdrom?
[12:06] <sobersabre> Severian, bob2 tells me it lies.
[12:07] <brownie17> nalioth, no, i am using synaptic, i just clicked "edit, add cdrom"
[12:07] <sobersabre> bob2, BTW, my video mem is shared :)
[12:07] <eis_os> Severian: I guess it has something todo, that it can't find a smb network browser :/
[12:07] <bob2> sobersabre: I wouldn't really worry, most of it is in swap, anyway
[12:07] <bob2> sobersabre: ow
[12:07] <Severian> sobresabre, I think he was mostly talking about x as reported in top.
[12:07] <MoFu> Does that question ring a bell: HOW TO GET VIDEO AND AUDIO PLAYBACK WORKING ON 5.10.
[12:07] <bob2> iceman: yes, there wont be links to that in that dir
[12:07] <MoFu> or am i still asking stupid questions...
[12:07] <nalioth> brownie17: ok then. have you added the internet repos to your sources.list?/
[12:08] <bob2> MoFu: stop it, this is your final warning
[12:08] <Severian> eis_os. Are there just a few samba shares that you regularly use?
[12:08] <bob2> MoFu: ask an actual specific question that is answerable
[12:08] <nalioth> MoFu: you are wastint capitol letters here
[12:08] <egoleo_> i need a program to rip vcd and dvd movies
[12:08] <egoleo_> any help
[12:08] <eis_os> Severian: yes
[12:08] <sobersabre> hmm.. is qt4 ready to go already ?
[12:08] <brownie17> nalioth, yeah i am pretty sure i have
[12:08] <bob2> brownie17: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[12:08] <MoFu> ouch, i got suggestions that nobody nows an answer... great.
[12:08] <bob2> MoFu: no, stop this stupid attidue
[12:09] <sobersabre> egoleo_,  google on dvdrip  or dvd::rip
[12:09] <egoleo_> ok
[12:09] <bob2> MoFu: what exactly isn't working? "audio and video" is not a sensible answer
[12:09] <iceman> bob2 resend the link ... to add to sources.list
[12:09] <bob2> iceman: scroll up
[12:09] <sobersabre> it has debian repository, I am not sure though it runs smooth with ubuntu...
[12:09] <iceman> bob2 search it as a link .. dows not work
[12:09] <egoleo_> ok
[12:09] <Severian> eis_os, I access a couple of samba shares on my Linux machines all the time.  I had never used Nautilus to do it until your question.  I create a mount point for them and make an entry in /etc/fstab for each one.  I could show you how to do that, if you want.
[12:10] <bob2> iceman: what do you mean "does not work"?
[12:10] <Bergcube> MoFu~  This has probably been pointed out already, but you can learn a lot by reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation#head-19e51e4331625e264a28ed6c484b946c86882d15
[12:10] <sobersabre> egoleo_, i have once installed it, but never used it actually ( not enough time & disk space ) :)
[12:10] <sobersabre> but that was on 5.04
[12:10] <eis_os> Severian: I have log on now on my main maschine and all shares magical get resolved
[12:10] <corincole> could someone please help me with phpmyadmin configuration?
[12:10] <iceman> E: Type 'http://82.211.81.182/ubuntu/breezy/main/restricted/universe' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:10] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:~$
[12:10] <Bergcube> MoFu~  Or perhaps you should even start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[12:11] <gnomefreak> how do i get libjvm.so and libawt.so to preload?
[12:11] <eis_os> Severian: I do know how to mount manually and via fstab I should be able to do it aswell
[12:11] <sobersabre> corincole, phpmyadmin should work out of the box....
[12:11] <efkoj> could somebody try connecting to this  http://81.82.5.42:5000
[12:11] <bob2> iceman: add "deb" to the beginning of the line
[12:11] <bob2> gnomefreak: what are you trying to run?
[12:11] <sobersabre> efkoj, are you arranging a DOS ?
[12:11] <Stanley> bob2: How can i setup a test account? \ add user accounts
[12:11] <gnomefreak> opera
[12:11] <bob2> Stanley: 'sudo adduser username'
[12:11] <efkoj> sobersabre,  how do you mean?
[12:11] <bob2> efkoj: lalalala
[12:11] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:~$ sudo apt-get update
[12:11] <iceman> E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[12:11] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:~$
[12:12] <Bergcube> efkoj~  I did.  I got an empty directory.
[12:12] <bob2> iceman: just show me the line then
[12:12] <brownie17> bob2, you get that? is that got all the breezy repos?
[12:12] <Severian> eis_os, that has been very reliable for me.  The mounts in the fstab did not work for a while in beta versions of breezy, but they have been perfect in the final version.
[12:12] <iceman> deb http://82.211.81.182/ubuntu/breezy/main/restricted/universe
[12:12] <bob2> what a second
[12:12] <bob2> 20:00:33           bob2 | iceman: 'deb http://82.211.81.182/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe'
[12:12] <efkoj> Bergcube,  cool!
[12:12] <bob2> the line I gave you to begin with was correct
[12:13] <nalioth> brownie17: did you pastebin something?
[12:13] <brownie17> nalioth, no #flood
[12:13] <omerlh> apt-get don't install scilab. How I install it?
[12:13] <bob2> brownie17: that looks fine
[12:13] <Bergcube> efkoj~  Well, to be precise there was ONE item there.  "projects/"
[12:13] <sobersabre> Bergcube, if this "efkoj" asks to do this in 200 channels, and 2 people in each chan do this, it will be a 2000 http requests sent...
[12:13] <sobersabre> efkoj, is this an SVN repo ?
[12:13] <brownie17> nalioth,  "bob2 brownie17: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood" is there something wrong with pastebin?
[12:13] <bob2> brownie17: what's one package that apt wants to update?
[12:13] <Stanley> bob2: do they become local system users aswell?
[12:13] <nalioth> brownie17: i didnt see bob2s request
[12:13] <efkoj> sobersabre,  i want to make one!
[12:14] <bob2> Stanley: yes
[12:14] <bob2> Stanley: you can disable their ability to login, though.
[12:14] <sobersabre> efkoj, what is the problem with it then ?
[12:14] <MoFu> bob2 MoFu: no, stop this stupid attidue
[12:14] <Bergcube> sobersabre~  True.  But why would he do that?  Unless he's a stupid git of course.  But after all he knows what Ubuntu is, so we might not assume he is...
[12:14] <efkoj> well i nobody could connect to it but now they seem to be able
[12:14] <sobersabre> ( efkoj , it was only a guess: "projects" )
[12:14] <brownie17> bob2, sorry, can't tell. allready gave it the go-ahead, sahould i stop it so i can see?
[12:14] <efkoj> how can i set my ip fix?
[12:14] <sobersabre> Bergcube, efkoj can be a bot for that matter :)
[12:14] <eis_os> Severian: actually the Gnome mounter works perfectly aswell
[12:14] <bob2> MoFu: yes.  now, what specific program is't working for you?
[12:15] <iceman> bob2 pastbin the line ...
[12:15] <bob2> efkoj: in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:15] <sobersabre> Bergcube, and bots are stupid gits generally ( no offense efkoj )
[12:15] <bob2> iceman: dude...
[12:15] <efkoj> :( i just asked to try it :p
[12:15] <efkoj> becouse when i do it it doesnt work
[12:15] <brownie17> bob2, do you have any information about the release of a breezy smeg? will the hoary version work?
[12:15] <iceman> bob2 i can cut and past from there.. cause it does not work
[12:15] <efkoj> i get connection refused..
[12:16] <sobersabre> efkoj, What do you mean "your IP fix" - so ISP doesn't change your IP ?
[12:16] <iceman> deb http://82.211.81.182/ubuntu/ breezy/main/restricted/universe
[12:16] <bob2> iceman: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3549
[12:16] <Severian> eis_os, well good.
[12:16] <bob2> !+info smeg breezy
[12:16] <efkoj> sobersabre,  no so i have fix ip 192.168.2.50 for example
[12:16] <ubotu> smeg: (simple menu editing), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.7.5-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 212 kB
[12:16] <bob2> brownie17: it's in breezy already :)
[12:16] <sobersabre> efkoj, what is "I" in this question ?
[12:16] <bob2> brownie17: you can stop it if you like, but it's no big deal
[12:16] <ravenel> hi all
[12:16] <nalioth> brownie17: breezy comes with smeg default
[12:16] <Bergcube> efkoj~  You seem to be connecting from Isreal.  Perhaps the easiest fix would be to relocate to a free country where "they" don't monitor everything everywhere all the time.
[12:17] <bob2> brownie17: (I was just going to check what new version it thought it found)
[12:17] <bob2> Bergcube: off-topic
[12:17] <iceman> bob2 thanks .. that worked ..
[12:17] <bob2> iceman: you can install wine?
[12:17] <iceman> bob2 now if it will actualy find wine
[12:17] <ravenel> i'm running the distupgrade and getting an error I'm not sure about... could anyone help?
[12:17] <sobersabre> Bergcube, what are you talking about ?
[12:17] <efkoj> sobersabre,  i'am running more then one computer on my network and my isp block every port under 3000 so i have to forward the 80 port to an higher port that why i need to set a fix ip on my ubuntu
[12:17] <corincole> could someone please help me with phpmyadmin?
[12:17] <amy> http://acolad1.u-strasbg.fr/acolad/plateformes/presentationacolad/connexion/
[12:17] <bob2> ravenel: paste it to #flood and we can see
[12:17] <iceman> bob2 doing update now
[12:17] <nalioth> ravenel: pastebin it, please
[12:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ravenel about paste
[12:18] <Stanley> bob2: sudo adduser stanley, so if i setup OExpress with account Eg: Stanley@domain.co.za, and the linux's IP
[12:18] <bob2> corincole: best to just ask
[12:18] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:~$ sudo apt-get wine
[12:18] <ravenel> #flood
[12:18] <iceman> E: Invalid operation wine
[12:18] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:~$
[12:18] <sobersabre> efkoj, which machine does the forwarding ?
[12:18] <bob2> Stanley: just 'stanley', yes (once you install a pop3 server)
[12:18] <corincole> well, ive set it up, but it wont let me log on, im not sure whats wrong...
[12:18] <efkoj> the router..
[12:18] <bob2> iceman: read the error...
[12:18] <bob2> corincole: you installed it from the ubuntu package?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> iceman: sudo apt-get install wine
[12:18] <sobersabre> efkoj, is it a little router box or is it a PC ?
[12:18] <efkoj> a lil box.
[12:18] <Stanley> bob2: Fetchmail ??
[12:18] <eis_os> bye bye, and thanks alot Severian
[12:18] <nalioth> ravenel: you coming to #flood?
[12:19] <Bergcube> bob2~  I assume you are aware that some nations do heacy screening of the internet traffic.  Not everyone knows this, and can therefore interpret lack of connectivity as an error.  All kinds of excuses if I insulted you, the channel or anyone reading the log in the future.
[12:19] <corincole> bob2, yes
[12:19] <ravenel> not sure how to yet ;)
[12:19] <iceman> see #flood
[12:19] <logikal> WHere is mozilla installed to?
[12:19] <bob2> Stanley: fetchmail is a pop client, I'd recommend the 'dovecot-pop3d' package.
[12:19] <bob2> ravenel: /j #flood
[12:19] <nalioth> logikal: /usr/bin/mozilla
[12:19] <bob2> logikal: what are you trying to do?
[12:20] <logikal> install plugins.
[12:20] <sobersabre> efkoj, 1st configure its DHCP service to work on a little range of IPs, 2ndly, take your machine youwant to have fixed IP on, and configure its network interface to be static IP, is it Ubuntu box ?
[12:20] <logikal> from realplayer
[12:20] <egoleo_> dvdrip on breezy
[12:20] <iceman> still no wine ...
[12:20] <bob2> logikal: dude
[12:20] <bob2> logikal: amd64?
[12:20] <Severian> eis_os, good night.
[12:20] <bob2> bah
[12:20] <logikal> ?
[12:20] <bob2> iceman: amd64?
[12:20] <ravenel> ok, pasted in flood
[12:20] <logikal> yep
[12:20] <egoleo_> how do i get it to install
[12:20] <brownie17> efkoj, you got a hard-ass ISP, i reccommend a change. there a re great websites out there that devote heaps of time to testing and surveying about many different ones, so you don't have to make the same mistake twice. if you live in the AU NZ area, NetGuide does some such similiar testing
[12:20] <iceman> yea
[12:20] <MoFu> screw it.
[12:20] <bob2> iceman: wine doesn't exist on amd64
[12:20] <corincole> bob2?
[12:20] <bob2> MoFu: you still haven't actually asked a coherent question
[12:20] <brownie17> gtg
[12:20] <sobersabre> brownie17, the guys doesn't live in AU NZ...
[12:20] <iceman> so ... toast amd 64 install .. install x86
[12:21] <efkoj> idd i live in belgium
[12:21] <nalioth> sobersabre: o-t
[12:21] <efkoj> sobersabre, see msg
[12:21] <bob2> iceman: if you care about binary-only stuff, the amd64 port is not for you
[12:21] <iceman> seems a waste of 64 bit
[12:21] <egoleo_> dvd, vcd ripping on breezy
[12:21] <egoleo_> any help
[12:21] <bob2> corincole: you can't log in as the root user, using the password from the mysql-server README.Debian?
[12:21] <bob2> egoleo_: you need to ask a specific question...
[12:21] <sobersabre> efkoj, anyway, which router do you own ?
[12:21] <iceman> still a day old install ... maybe 6 hours old ..
[12:21] <corincole> what readme?
[12:21] <efkoj> efkoj, belkin
[12:22] <Stanley> bob2: Ok, I'll try that, How can install that? , Its not in Synaptic?
[12:22] <efkoj> but sobersabre  it works atm no?
[12:22] <egoleo_> i need a vcd and dvd ripper for breezy
[12:22] <egoleo_> bob2
[12:22] <bob2> ravenel: can you show us what 'apt-cache policy libofx2' says? (also in #flood)
[12:22] <Severian> egoleo_, vcd ripping is simple.  It is just a matter of copying files and renaming them  At least that has been tru of the vcds I own.
[12:22] <bob2> egoleo_: so install one.  I hear 'drip' is good
[12:22] <efkoj> can you connect to that ip sobersabre ? the only thing i want to do now is set a fix ip for my machine
[12:22] <MoFu> screw, really screw...
[12:22] <iceman> ok well toast the install ... back up to x86
[12:22] <sobersabre> who works ? you said you want to have internal addr. fixed, and it changes... am i confused or you ?
[12:22] <bob2> corincole: /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian
[12:22] <sobersabre> ( hmm or both of  us )
[12:22] <efkoj> sobersabre,  :p
[12:23] <logikal> Where do i install plugins for mozilla?
[12:23] <sobersabre> efkoj, do u use gnome/kde ?
[12:23] <efkoj> sobersabre,  yes
[12:23] <gnomefreak> bob2 ty
[12:23] <efkoj> sobersabre,  do you see my msg?
[12:23] <bob2> logikal: what plugin are you trying to install?
[12:23] <corincole> ok, Ill look bob2
[12:23] <sobersabre> hm. which one ?
[12:23] <sobersabre> which msg ?
[12:23] <corincole> bob2, does it matter that i change the login details in the config.inc.php file?
[12:23] <efkoj> i send 5 of them already
[12:23] <Stanley> bob2: Ok, I'll try that, How can install that? , Its not in Synaptic?, must i donwload it?
[12:23] <bob2> corincole: I don't know that you need to touch that
[12:23] <logikal> I got it bob
[12:24] <iceman> wow lag
[12:24] <sobersabre> efkoj, I don't know what you've sent. I know you better send into channel.
[12:24] <efkoj> ok
[12:24] <bob2> Stanley: you need to enable the internet repositories in synaptic
[12:24] <sobersabre> since it works.
[12:24] <nalioth> efkoj: but not this channel
[12:24] <logikal> bmb2 it's not owrking
[12:24] <efkoj> sobersabre,  ok how do i set a "fix" ip ?
[12:24] <sobersabre> anyway: in the GUI  :) you have System Settings somewhere, use them, there's "network-admin"
[12:25] <bob2> logikal: what's not working?
[12:25] <sobersabre> and you need to give your password to use it, and there you can play with your ethernet card's settings, incl. making it have fixed address
[12:25] <egoleo_> ok
[12:26] <sobersabre> efkoj, is it a wifi card or copper one ?
[12:26] <RelatoreEsterno1> Do you know the new copyright system ? http://forumfsa.altervista.org/Copysoft.html
[12:26] <Severian> egoleo_,  do you know how to do that or do you need details?
[12:26] <efkoj> sobersabre,  ok found it
[12:26] <sobersabre> good luck
[12:26] <RelatoreEsterno1> fight for free software, we want help, read the article  http://forumfsa.altervista.org/Copysoft.html
[12:27] <efkoj> ok sobersabre try connection to this http://81.82.5.42:5000
[12:27] <gnomefreak> can someone tell me what i need to do to fix this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3550
[12:28] <Stanley> bob2: Do i add 1?, there is a coule in repositry?
[12:28] <sobersabre> efkoj, ok. so .... what ?
[12:28] <efkoj> you got connected?
[12:29] <bob2> Stanley: add the "main" one
[12:29] <sobersabre> yes
[12:29] <nalioth> gnomefreak: get the static opera
[12:29] <sobersabre> and disconnected too
[12:29] <gnomefreak> nalioth,  ok i will try that
[12:29] <efkoj> ok thx!
[12:29] <matitaccia> Hi. How is the wireless support with ubuntu?
[12:30] <efkoj> now its time to get svn running ::)
[12:30] <Quarupted> Whats a good P2P for Ubuntu?
[12:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell matitaccia about wireless
[12:30] <Quarupted> for songs ?
[12:30] <nalioth> Quarupted: all p2p protocols are represented here
[12:30] <Bergcube> matitaccia~  Depends HEAVILLY on what specific WiFi card you have / want to purchase.
[12:30] <sobersabre> ubotu: tell matitaccia about wireless
[12:30] <Quarupted> I mean a program..
[12:30] <gnomefreak> i did sudo apt-get install opera-static and it told me the newest version is already installed
[12:30] <Stanley> bob2: Ok busy check \ fetching lists from server: I added Breezy Badger?  What is Breezy Badger
[12:30] <matitaccia> Bergcube, it's a dlink, G-650+.
[12:30] <Quarupted> Whats a good program in synaptoic i can install foro P2P one thats good for music
[12:31] <nalioth> gnomefreak: visit opera.com
[12:31] <nalioth> gnomefreak: and what repos have opera?
[12:31] <Quarupted> Maybe something like Limewire, on the same network mayb e
[12:31] <bob2> Stanley: the name of ubuntu 5.10
[12:31] <gnomefreak> universe i think
[12:31] <Severian> gnomefreak, uninstall the other opera first.
[12:31] <nalioth> Quarupted: what have you used before that works for you?
[12:31] <Quarupted> Limewire in windows
[12:31] <gnomefreak> apt-get remove opera?
[12:31] <Bergcube> matitaccia~  Then you're up a certain creek with no paddle whatsoever.  I got the same card.  Neither the mailing-list nor this channel has been able to help.  Read this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78310
[12:31] <Quarupted> Oh yea they have limewire for linux DUH
[12:31] <sobersabre> Stanley, it is a regular badger, taken in the morning and put into the sea for several seconds, then released on the shore... it will run like crazy, and the breeze will chill its temper...
[12:32] <corincole> bob2, it worked, im logged on :)
[12:32] <nalioth> Quarupted: gtk-gnutella is functionally equivalent to limewire
[12:32] <corincole> can you check something for me though?
[12:32] <bob2> corincole: great
[12:32] <iceman> well toast AMD64 and go back to the old x86 ...
[12:32] <Severian> gnomefreak, I always use synaptic do do it.  Give me a minute to check the command.
[12:32] <cosimo321> Hello all
[12:32] <corincole> http://86.136.45.17/phpmyadmin/   does that work?
[12:32] <corincole> for you
[12:32] <cosimo321> is there a way to set global file permissions?
[12:32] <Stanley> bob2: Oops stupid Qstn!  OK its downloading stuff, will install the pkcge when its done, Thnks
[12:32] <bob2> iceman: if you're only using wine ocxasionally, you could make achroot
[12:32] <sobersabre> Stanley, it is a codename of Ubuntu 5.10 too ...
[12:33] <bob2> cosimo321: how do you mean?
[12:33] <nalioth> gnomefreak: what repos have opera?
[12:33] <Severian> gnomefreak, Your command should be right.
[12:33] <olicat> anybody know how i specify a keepalive for ssh on the client side?
[12:33] <cosimo321> I want to allow read /write and execute on a group of files globally
[12:33] <sobersabre> cosimo321, try command: alias chmod 'globalchmod'
[12:33] <corincole> bob2, does http://86.136.45.17/phpmyadmin/ work? or anyone?
[12:33] <corincole> (not to login, just to view page...)
[12:33] <sobersabre> then you can do whatever you want with global file permisions
[12:33] <gnomefreak> nalioth, universe does but it wont show up in synaptic till its installed
[12:33] <Stanley> sobersabre: Thanks: I got that :)
[12:33] <iceman> bob2 plannig to set up Diablo II in wine ..
[12:34] <bob2> corincole: I hope you changed the root password already...
[12:34] <corincole> yup, i did
[12:34] <corincole> ;)
[12:34] <corincole> but does it work?
[12:34] <sobersabre> cosimo321, did you get the message?
[12:34] <bob2> corincole: not for me
[12:34] <corincole> crap
[12:34] <cosimo321> I got the message I tried in the terminal no go
[12:34] <Severian> corincole, I could not connect.  No route to host.
[12:34] <gnomefreak> ok its gone should i try apt-get install opera-static? or get it from opera site?
[12:34] <sobersabre> cosimo321, you need to type:
[12:34] <cosimo321> in the terminal right?
[12:34] <egoleo_> does anyone knows howto use the drip
[12:34] <sobersabre> alias globalchmod='chmod'
[12:35] <egoleo_> anyone using drip
[12:35] <efkoj> sobersabre, i installed the subversion synaptic but what now? dont i have to config stuff ? were can i fidn what to config?
[12:35] <sobersabre> i confused you, sorry
[12:35] <Madpilot> gnomefreak: have you looked here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[12:35] <corincole> it worked yesterday for other people, and from my other pc at http://192.168.2.3      now i cant connect using 192.168....  but it works from the same PC as http://localhost    any reason?
[12:35] <Severian> gnomefreak, if you have a repository with operastatic, give it  a shot.
[12:35] <iceman> bob2 i got the harddrive space, there a way to access a x86 install from inside a 64 bit install
[12:35] <sobersabre> efkoj, 1st thing you usually do after an install: /usr/share/doc/packagename
[12:35] <nalioth> gnomefreak: i dont see it in universe
[12:35] <gnomefreak> Madpilot, this isnt the first time i have installed it but sometimes it does this to me
[12:35] <bob2> iceman: yes
[12:36] <sobersabre> efkoj, and read the files
[12:36] <corincole> any ideas bob2? oh, and just out of interest, are you op?
[12:36] <efkoj> ok thx!
[12:36] <bob2> corincole: I don't know what might have changed; in thie channel, yes.
[12:36] <corincole> ok
[12:36] <iceman> bob2 well got to download the x86 version or use hoary ... and install one or the other ... and just set a partition up for that install
[12:37] <efkoj> sobersabre,  whats the command to open a html file true command line?
[12:37] <Quarupted> Whats a good really bloated customizable Console program???
[12:37] <iceman> bob2 nice thing, i alread have a dos partition containing Diablo II, and linux see's it fine
[12:37] <bob2> iceman: wah?
[12:37] <Quarupted> Anyone?
[12:37] <bob2> iceman: you don't need a partition to run i386 ubuntu inside the amd64 port
[12:37] <bob2> Quarupted: to do what?
[12:37] <Madpilot> gnomefreak: the version of Opera that Opera put together for Breezy doesn't seem to actually run on Breezy... get the generic static .deb version, it works fine
[12:37] <sobersabre> efkoj, I don't understand the question.. you want to view html file ( render it ) in the terminal ?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> nalioth,  nevermind i thought they told me what one it was in but they just say to add extra repos
[12:38] <efkoj> yeah
[12:38] <iceman> bob2 theres a way to install both in one partition ?
[12:38] <bob2> iceman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28debootstrap%29
[12:38] <bob2> iceman: sure
[12:38] <ironfrost> hi all - I've managed to fix the problem I had earlier, but now I have a different problem
[12:38] <sobersabre> efkoj,  you can use text based browser, or mc and use view file option.
[12:38] <Quarupted> bob2, a console program, ya know to do all my CLI stuff like Konsole ya know?
[12:38] <bob2> Quarupted: oh, you mean a terminal emulator
[12:38] <sobersabre> efkoj, the text browsers I know of are: links2, links, lynx
[12:38] <Stanley> bob2:Ok installed the pop3: done, now what?
[12:38] <bob2> Quarupted: Eterm is probably the most eye-candified terminal around
[12:38] <Quarupted> bob2, sure
[12:39] <DeVeRaS> hi. how can i activa remote console in GUI using ssh (console)
[12:39] <Quarupted> thx bob2
[12:39] <DeVeRaS> hi. how can i activate remote console in GUI using ssh (console)
[12:39] <bob2> Stanley: now try logging in using your email client
[12:39] <bob2> DeVeRaS: ssh user@hostname.of.machine.com
[12:39] <ironfrost> when I try to compile a program (a materials science program calledDacapo, for those who are interested), I get a string of errors with libc.a
[12:39] <gnomefreak> Madpilot,  i just apt-get install opera-static and it gave the the it might be missing or obsolete it is only available from another source
[12:39] <ironfrost> similar to these ones:
[12:39] <iceman> bob2 so explain that a bit to me ? do i need the x86 cd ?
[12:39] <DeVeRaS> bob2 that i can do, how do i activate the GUI
[12:39] <ironfrost> /usr/lib64/libc.a(iofclose.o)(.text 0x158): In function `fclose':
[12:39] <ironfrost> : undefined reference to `_Unwind_Resume'
[12:39] <ironfrost> /usr/lib64/libc.a(iofclose.o)(.eh_frame 0x12): undefined reference to `__gcc_personality_v0'
[12:39] <bob2> DeVeRaS: what gui?
[12:39] <nalioth> gnomefreak: the answer to your problem is on the wiki
[12:39] <DeVeRaS> like vnc
[12:39] <bob2> iceman: please don't paste things in here
[12:40] <nalioth> ironfrost: please dont paste in here
[12:40] <DeVeRaS> i need to use the browser
[12:40] <Madpilot> gnomefreak: Opera does have repos available, but Opera is NOT in the usual Ubuntu repos
[12:40] <bob2> DeVeRaS: you mean, "how do I ssh into a remote machine and have windows from programs show up on my local machine?"?
[12:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gnomefreak about opera
[12:40] <gnomefreak> ok brb checking wiki
[12:40] <DeVeRaS> no
[12:40] <bob2> bah
[12:40] <bob2> iceman: no, you don't (sorry)
[12:40] <Stanley> bob2: in OE will my pop3\smtp be Ubuntu's IP address?
[12:40] <ironfrost> gnomefreak - you can just grab the .deb files from their site, and use dpkg
[12:40] <ravenel> got another dist-upgrade error
[12:40] <sobersabre> DeVeRaS, you can either use ssh or VNC. for ssh you need to have local X server. for vnc you don't
[12:40] <bob2> Stanley: yes
[12:40] <ravenel> pasting in #flood :)
[12:40] <bob2> ravenel: great, thanks
[12:40] <DeVeRaS> bob2 i am there by ssh (console) i need to activate the remote access so that i can then use the remote console GUI
[12:41] <DeVeRaS> it's not up
[12:41] <gnomefreak> ironfrost, thats what i was doing and thats why i was getting errors
[12:41] <Quarupted> bob2, I installed it but i cant find the bin, is it not called eterm?
[12:41] <iceman> bob2 ok got to the third part of that link you sent me and my system just hang .. and did nothing
[12:41] <bob2> DeVeRaS: what is "the remote access"?
[12:41] <DeVeRaS> VNC like program
[12:41] <bob2> iceman: which is the 3rd part?
[12:41] <DeVeRaS> need's to be running correct?
[12:41] <bob2> Quarupted: Eterm, for some silly reason
[12:41] <egoleo_> i used "sudo useradd username" to create a new user
[12:42] <bob2> DeVeRaS: you want to replicate the display from an existing session to your local one?
[12:42] <DeVeRaS> can i do it by the console?
[12:42] <iceman> sudo debootstrap [--variant=buildd]  that part
[12:42] <egoleo_> but when i try to login
[12:42] <sobersabre> DeVeRaS, vnc has server and client. on the machine you connect from you use "client".
[12:42] <Quarupted> bob2, oh with a capital, ok thx
[12:42] <DeVeRaS> i want to make the server run
[12:42] <egoleo_> i get an error that HOME=/
[12:42] <sobersabre> DeVeRaS, you can set it up to be running via terminal
[12:42] <DeVeRaS> good. how
[12:42] <bob2> iceman: hangs? or the terminal just doesn't move on?
[12:42] <egoleo_> unsername directory not created
[12:42] <ironfrost> OK, sorry about the pasting - I put the error up on http://pastebin.com/403919 instead
[12:42] <sobersabre> egoleo_,  edit users credentials
[12:42] <Stanley> bob2: OE cant find the server?
[12:43] <egoleo_> where can i edit it
[12:43] <DeVeRaS> sobersaber how do i make the server run?
[12:43] <bob2> Stanley: did you tell it to use pop3?
[12:43] <Stanley> bob2: I can ping the box from my XP PC!
[12:43] <bob2> ironfrost: wow, that stuff is hard core
[12:43] <DeVeRaS> by the console that is
[12:43] <Stanley> bob2: yes .
[12:43] <Quarupted> bob2, Yea i dun like that one, it doesnt have like built in themes, ya know anything else ?
[12:43] <egoleo_> where can i edit the users credentials
[12:43] <bob2> Quarupted: sure it has built-in themes
[12:44] <bob2> way prettier than any of the konsole ones
[12:44] <Quarupted> bob2, not that I could fing through the menus
[12:44] <egoleo_> where can i edit users credentials
[12:44] <DeVeRaS> bob2 do you know? how can i run the server using the console
[12:44] <bob2> Stanley: what does "sudo netstat -plnt | grep 110" print, when run on the server?
[12:44] <iceman> bob2 i loses me here ...   Append this line
[12:44] <iceman>  mychroot /var/chroot
[12:44] <bob2> Quarupted: Eterm -t themename
[12:45] <ironfrost> bob2 - indeed; google brings up some scary mailing list posts about compiling GCCfrom CVS, which is something I really don't want to get into
[12:45] <Quarupted> bob2, yea thats to much id rather have something ya could do through menu's and instantly preview the, ya any others?
[12:45] <bob2> iceman: it's telling you to add that line to the file it just told you to edit
[12:45] <ironfrost> %uFF29 just want to know which file it's pointing at, and where to get a replacement one that works
[12:45] <bob2> Quarupted: doubt it
[12:45] <DeVeRaS> how can i run a VNC server (or the one ubuntu uses) by the console? i only have ssh access to it.
[12:45] <ZzeCoOl> Can someone give me a link to install my 9800 pro in ubuntu with 3d support
[12:45] <Stanley> bob2: asked for a password, then returned to the cmd prmpt!
[12:45] <iceman> bob2 begining or end ... then how do i exit ?
[12:45] <Quarupted> bob2, Id install Konsole, but i dun want t install the entire KDE-base to do it
[12:46] <bob2> Stanley: did you enter your password?
[12:46] <Madpilot> need sleep... later, all
[12:46] <bob2> DeVeRaS: are yo usure you want VNC?
[12:46] <DeVeRaS> i am sure
[12:46] <bob2> ZzeCoOl: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:46] <bob2> Quarupted: ok
[12:46] <bob2> DeVeRaS: why not X forwarding?
[12:46] <ZzeCoOl> bob2: ty
[12:46] <bob2> iceman: what text editor do you use?
[12:46] <DeVeRaS> bob2 i only what to download a file
[12:46] <iceman> bob2 how do i save and exit this editer ...
[12:46] <DeVeRaS> can't do it using lynx
[12:47] <iceman> sudo editor /etc/dchroot.conf
[12:47] <DeVeRaS> and forwarfing X might be more complicated no?
[12:47] <z|bandito> whats the default kernel in breezy?
[12:47] <iceman> one htey said
[12:47] <Stanley> bob2: yes, tried it three times
[12:47] <Quarupted> bob2, where would i look in Synaptic for terminal editors?
[12:47] <bob2> iceman: is it nano or vi?
[12:47] <icemilo> how to install the win32 codec?
[12:47] <z|bandito> and what's linux-image kernel about?
[12:47] <bob2> Stanley: and it errored out?
[12:47] <iceman> nano
[12:47] <bob2> iceman: /msg ubotu w32codecs
[12:47] <bob2> iceman: ctrl-w or something, it says at the bottom of the screen
[12:47] <DeVeRaS> bob2 or ins't it?
[12:47] <Stanley> bob2: tried sudo netstat: returned a list of stuff
[12:47] <bob2> DeVeRaS: no, forwarding X is way easier
[12:47] <DeVeRaS> ok. how is it do
[12:48] <DeVeRaS> ok. how is it done
[12:48] <bob2> Stanley: that's not the command I asked you to run...
[12:48] <icemilo> i am icemilo
[12:48] <DeVeRaS> i'am there using ssh
[12:48] <bob2> DeVeRaS: ssh -X user@hostname
[12:48] <aleitner> Is anybody else experiencing lots of crashes with oo2 on breezy?
[12:48] <icemilo> not iceman -_-
[12:48] <Stanley> unix  3      [ ]          STREAM     CONNECTED     7436
[12:48] <Stanley> unix  2      [ ]          DGRAM                    7427
[12:48] <bob2> DeVeRaS: then 'firefox' or whatever
[12:48] <Stanley> sorry
[12:48] <Stanley> bob2: Like that
[12:48] <bob2> Stanley: that's not from the command I asked you to run...
[12:48] <Severian> DeVeRaS, are you just trying to copy a file to some remote machine?
[12:48] <DeVeRaS> ???
[12:49] <DeVeRaS> no, get one
[12:49] <DeVeRaS> ssh -X -l login ip?
[12:49] <bob2> DeVeRaS: which part of that explanation was confusing?
[12:49] <DeVeRaS> i see the same...
[12:49] <DeVeRaS> just console
[12:49] <bob2> DeVeRaS: are you logged into the remote machine?
[12:49] <DeVeRaS> i am
[12:50] <DeVeRaS> i wan't wend i did that comand of course
[12:50] <Stanley> bob2: sudo netstat -plnt | grep 110    - does nothing, it just returns to the prompt
[12:50] <bob2> DeVeRaS: now run an X application
[12:50] <aftertaf> what does the -l do?
[12:50] <bob2> Stanley: what does 'dpkg -l dovecot-pop3d | tail -n1' print?
[12:50] <DeVeRaS> firefox ... hags... hangs
[12:50] <bob2> DeVeRaS: (e.g. xlsfonts)
[12:51] <aftertaf> ok. login name...
[12:51] <DeVeRaS> hags ... hangs
[12:51] <bob2> aftertaf: istening sockets
[12:51] <DeVeRaS> nothing...
[12:51] <Stanley> ii  dovecot-pop3d  0.99.14-1ubuntu1 secure POP3 server that supports mbox and maildir mailboxes
[12:51] <DeVeRaS> now alot of text...
[12:51] <Kano> hi, who has a fresh ubuntu install and could send me his fstab via dcc?
[12:51] <Quarupted> okay bob2 ill play your way.. i installed the theme pack, now how can i view them?
[12:52] <DeVeRaS> bob2 that gave-me a lot of text line, normal?
[12:52] <bob2> Quarupted: play my way? I don't care what terminal emulator you use.
[12:52] <Sionide> !info flea
[12:52] <bob2> DeVeRaS: er, I meant xfontsel
[12:52] <bob2> my mistake
[12:52] <corincole> bob2, how about http://86.136.45.17/phpmyadmin/ now?
[12:52] <bob2> Stanley: 'sudo /etc/init.d/dovecot-pop3d start'
[12:53] <icemilo> how to install win32 codec?
[12:53] <Quarupted> bob2, well ya wouldnt tell me what section in Synaptic where to look for other Terminal emulators
[12:53] <DeVeRaS> hangs... (i'am using the console terminal on gnome)
[12:53] <bob2> Quarupted: wtf
[12:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell icemilo about w32deb
[12:53] <Kano> looks like nobody installs ubuntu here..
[12:53] <bob2> Kano: oh, stop it
[12:53] <iceman> bob2 how to save and exit in nano .. im lost
[12:53] <bob2> iceman: no idea
[12:53] <DeVeRaS> bob2 i guess i just have to wait?
[12:53] <icemilo> nalioth: thanks
[12:53] <Stanley> bob2:   sudo: /etc/init.d/dovecot-pop3d: command not found
[12:53] <bob2> DeVeRaS: no, nevermind
[12:53] <Sionide> Kano, what are you ona bout?
[12:53] <Kano> Sionide: look into it
[12:53] <corincole> bob2???  http://86.136.45.17/phpmyadmin/   :)???
[12:54] <bob2> iceman: the screen says ctrl-w, ctrl-q
[12:54] <Kano> just a sample fstab
[12:54] <bob2> corincole: something comes up
[12:54] <Sionide> Kano, why via dcc?!
[12:54] <Kano> from latest ubuntu
[12:54] <Kano> then use paste or whatever
[12:54] <bob2> Sionide: because he/she messed it up and didn't back it up
[12:54] <corincole> what comes up? the phpmyadmin login screen?
[12:54] <Quarupted> bob2,  wtf what???
[12:54] <wret> hi, i've a question about the software upgrades in ubuntu, does ubuntu upgrade the software between versions?, in example: do we have to wait till next version to have the oficial openoffice.org 2.0 package?
[12:54] <sweener> anyone have luck installing gproftpd?
[12:54] <bob2> Quarupted: I never "wouldnt tell me what section in Synaptic where to look for other Terminal emulators"
[12:54] <Sionide> oh well, i'm using hoary anyways
[12:54] <Sionide> *shrug*
[12:54] <bob2> wret: yes
[12:54] <Sionide> and it's not fresh
[12:54] <Stanley> bob2:   sudo: /etc/init.d/dovecot-pop3d: command not found
[12:55] <Quarupted> bob2,  well ya didnt answer at least, can ya now?
[12:55] <nalioth> wret: there is a mechanism in place for newer 'in-between" software
[12:55] <bob2> Stanley: 'ls /etc/init.d/dove*'?
[12:55] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:~$  sudo debootstrap [--variant=buildd]  [--arch i386]  breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[12:55] <iceman> E: No such script: breezy
[12:55] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:~$
[12:55] <wret> aha
[12:55] <iceman> w t f
[12:55] <corincole> bob? was it the phpmyadmin log-in screen?
[12:55] <bob2> iceman: uh
[12:55] <Quarupted> bob2, ??
[12:55] <Stanley> bob2:  /etc/init.d/dovecot
[12:55] <bob2> iceman: you know what []  in explanations means, right?
[12:55] <bob2> iceman: it means 'optional'
[12:56] <bob2> Stanley: sudo /etc/init.d/dovecot start
[12:56] <iceman> no idea
[12:56] <efkoj> sobersabre,  still alive?
[12:56] <wret> i suppose the mechanism will be released in the next version, am i right?
[12:56] <bob2> iceman: so invlude them or not, but don't put in the [
[12:56] <bimberi> corincole: no, i get "Duplicate Administrator.  Router is administrated by 192.168.2.2."
[12:56] <bob2> wret: yes
[12:56] <corincole> u do?
[12:56] <corincole> hmmm
[12:56] <corincole> wait a min
[12:56] <wret> ok, thanks a lot for your time
[12:56] <Quarupted> bob2, at least say ya dont know if ya dont...
[12:57] <corincole> try it now bob2
[12:57] <corincole> :)
[12:57] <z|bandito> what do the kernel options mean when installing?
[12:57] <Stanley> bob2: returns to prmpt.  Tried OE{send&recieve}  still cant find server
[12:57] <bob2> Quarupted: apt-cache search "terminal emulator"
[12:57] <efkoj> where i can find the apache config file?
[12:57] <efkoj> apache is installed but i dont find the conf file
[12:57] <bob2> z|bandito: what do you mean?
[12:57] <bob2> efkoj: /etc/apache2/
[12:58] <corincole> bob2: http://86.136.45.17/phpmyadmin/   is that working now?
[12:58] <DeVeRaS> bob2 : firefox (is taking for ever, it must run anyway yes?)
[12:58] <nalioth> corincole: it works
[12:58] <corincole> it does?
[12:58] <corincole> :)
[12:59] <bob2> DeVeRaS: dunno what's going on then
[12:59] <z|bandito> waht's linux-image?  as opposed to linux-386
[12:59] <Stanley> bob2: returns to prmpt.  Tried OE{send&recieve}  still cant find server
[12:59] <bob2> z|bandito: apt-cache show linux-386 | grep Depends
[12:59] <bimberi> corincole: login screen now
[12:59] <bob2> Stanley: I don't know why dovecot wouldn't run
[01:00] <Stanley> bob2: Dam
[01:00] <corincole> thanks bimberi
[01:00] <corincole> :)
[01:00] <bimberi> np :)
[01:00] <Stanley> bob2:  It uses all defaul ports: Smtp(25)  and Pop3(110)
[01:00] <Stanley> bob2; ?
[01:01] <bob2> Stanley: yes
[01:01] <corincole> yay, at last my lamp works
[01:01] <corincole> :D
[01:01] <Stanley> bob2: Then i dunno either?
[01:01] <verden01> hey anyone from australia?
[01:01] <bob2> lots of us
[01:02] <verden01> cool
[01:02] <Hobbsee> verden01: yep
[01:02] <bob2> ironfrost: anyway, sorry I don't have any ideas; what is fgp90, out of interest?
[01:02] <Stanley> bob2: LEt me try bounce the box
[01:02] <icemilo> anyone knows how to code C language?
[01:03] <Mortas> does somebody have a pointer to a document, or maybe another reference of how I could setup a local repository copy of all the i386 breezy main packages?
[01:03] <Quarupted> To install Kubuntu its apt-get install kubuntu-desktop right?
[01:03] <Hobbsee> Quarupted: yes
[01:03] <bob2> icemilo: please just ask specific questions, or go to #c
[01:03] <Mortas> I have a lousy connection here at work, so it's difficult to get updates for the machines here
[01:03] <bob2> Mortas: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive, or just use "debmirror"
[01:03] <jono> mdz, ping
[01:04] <Hobbsee> Quarupted: unless you're installing off a kubuntu cd, of course
[01:04] <Mortas> I've only found instructions for a rsync of the whoel mirror, but I don't exactly have 110gb available
[01:04] <Quarupted> Yea
[01:04] <bob2> Mortas: debmirror lets you pick exactly what you want
[01:04] <Mortas> ah ok, I'll take a look at that then
[01:04] <Mortas> thank you
[01:04] <jono> ok, I am willing to bribe someone to fix mythtv in breezy for amd64
[01:05] <locomorto> jono: there are live cd thingys for mythtv
[01:05] <Severian> jono, why don't you file a bounty, then?
[01:05] <jono> Seveas, I might do
[01:05] <jono> it is assigned to mdz so I was gonna speak to him
[01:05] <Severian> I am not Seveas
[01:06] <ktogias> hi, does anyone know when will breezy backports be available?
[01:06] <jono> oops
[01:07] <Severian> jono, I don't have a AMD64 system, or I'd be interested.  But, I am curious.  Does it almost work, or is there lots of work to do?
[01:07] <bob2> ktogias: what would go i nthem?
[01:07] <bob2> ktogias: there has not been anything uploaded to dapper
[01:07] <nalioth> ktogias: within the next 30 days, i'm sure something will appear
[01:07] <ktogias> thanks
[01:07] <ktogias> :)
[01:08] <Tonik> Hi, can somebody help?   I upgraded from Hoary to Breezy and the CD drive doesn't work any more; /dev/hdc doesn't exist!
[01:08] <Stanley> bob2: I'm back, still no luck
[01:08] <Stanley> bob2: OE cant find the server?
[01:08] <bob2> Stanley: that's a really vague error
[01:08] <efkoj> how do you restart apach2?
[01:08] <Stanley> bob2: Is there a way i can get into dovecot-pop3 setup?
[01:08] <bob2> efkoj: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[01:09] <efkoj> thx!
[01:09] <bob2> Stanley: yes, but editing the files in /etc/dovecot/ with your favourite text editor
[01:09] <efkoj> Syntax error on line 6 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf:
[01:09] <efkoj> Cannot load /etc/apache2/modules/mod_dav.so into server: /etc/apache2/modules/mod_dav.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:09] <efkoj> damn
[01:09] <efkoj> bob2 think you could help me out for a second?
[01:10] <jono> Severian, well the packages are uninstallable
[01:10] <efkoj> i'am trying to config subversion
[01:10] <efkoj> for apache
[01:10] <Stanley> OE Error: Connection to th server has failed: Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
[01:10] <Stanley> bob2; Will look around in there!
[01:10] <Stanley> bob2: should i stop the server?
[01:10] <bob2> Stanley: doesn't matter
[01:11] <Severian> jono, ok, thanks.  Now I'll know if a friend asks me.
[01:11] <jono> I am going to just try and install the normal x86 breezy as the packages work I believe
[01:11] <jono> Severian, no probs :)
[01:11] <B|4ckm0r3> Hi!i would like to install upower instead of usplash!but i would like to know if it is buggy or if is it safe to install it!anyone is using it?
[01:11] <bob2> efkoj: there are not going to be libraries in that dir
[01:11] <Stanley> k
[01:11] <bob2> B|4ckm0r3: why do you want to install it?
[01:11] <alumno> Hi i need decoders for mi totem player ? where can i get it ? from apt-get ?
[01:12] <efkoj> bob2 were r they then?
[01:12] <B|4ckm0r3> bob2: because it is better looking that's it (usplash is there cause it's better looking than console output isn't it?)
[01:12] <ironfrost> bob2 - fgp90? pgf90 is the PGI fortran compiler
[01:13] <ironfrost> (sorry, was busy for a while)
[01:13] <propagandhi> better looking and less alarming if the user doesnt understand the console output
[01:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell alumno about w32codecs
[01:14] <ironfrost> anyway, I should be off%u3002 Thanks anyway
[01:14] <alumno> thanks
[01:15] <Stanley> bob2: Everything i try open with text editor says Access denied!
[01:15] <Danny|> How do I get the spam filter in Evolution working?
[01:17] <nalioth> Stanley: use sudo
[01:17] <iceman> I: Validating Packages
[01:17] <iceman> I: Checking component main on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu...
[01:17] <iceman> so whats it doing
[01:17] <B|4ckm0r3> bob2: are you still there?
[01:19] <gnomefreak> what is a segmentation fault?
[01:20] <B|4ckm0r3> gnomefreak: a big problem :P
[01:20] <B|4ckm0r3> Hi!i would like to install upower instead of usplash!but i would like to know if it is buggy or if is it safe to install it!anyone is using it?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> i got the java problem fixed with opera now it just says segmentation fault when i try to run it
[01:20] <gnomefreak> its too early for big problems :(
[01:20] <nalioth> B|4ckm0r3: idk what upower is, got a URL?
[01:21] <nalioth> gnomefreak: try the static version
[01:21] <gnomefreak> ok
[01:21] <cool--guy> hello ppl
[01:21] <B|4ckm0r3> nalioth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UPower
[01:21] <cool--guy> is there ne 1 here to help me out??
[01:21] <nalioth> cool--guy: with what? your question did not precede you
[01:22] <cool--guy> k
[01:22] <cool--guy> i will:)
[01:22] <cool--guy> i installed ubuntu 5.04
[01:22] <cool--guy> and i have a problem with it
[01:22] <efkoj> efkoj@ubuntu:/etc/apache2$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[01:22] <efkoj>  * Forcing reload of web server  (Apache2)...                         [fail] 
[01:22] <Stanley> nalioth: how do i get to the etc folder from a terminal window?
[01:23] <efkoj> why didt it fail?
[01:23] <cool--guy> i am not able to install softwares into it very easily
[01:23] <nalioth> Stanley: cd /etc
[01:23] <gnomefreak> that time it worked ty nalioth
[01:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Stanley about cli
[01:23] <cool--guy> its tellin me tat sumthings missing n ohhh tats bad:)
[01:23] <nalioth> B|4ckm0r3: that does not tell me what it is, but i HIGHLY recommend you NOT use debian pkgs
[01:23] <nalioth> B|4ckm0r3: you can compile it yourself and be much better off
[01:24] <Stanley> nalioth: I'll go learn my linux commands ta
[01:25] <Norgus> hello, I have a stability issue with nvidia graphics drivers
[01:25] <efkoj> somebody?
[01:25] <B|4ckm0r3> nalioth: upower is what usplash will be...they stopped developing usplash and started with upower, since now (version 0.1) it has more colour (no more 16) and seems to be more stable
[01:25] <Norgus> I think they can be fixed by upgrading the kernel to version 2.6.11+
[01:26] <Norgus> can anyone give advice on safely upgrading the kernel?
[01:26] <sobersabre> Norgus, from which safety perspective ? yours ?
[01:26] <alumno> after isntall "sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_*.deb " i can t see mi video files :S ? i msut to do something more ?
[01:26] <nalioth> B|4ckm0r3: you see my recommendation. stay away from debian pkgs and libs (compile them yourself)
[01:27] <Norgus> erm my computer setup's safety I guess, sobersabre
[01:27] <Severian> efkoj, what kind of errors do you see in the log.  I thought I saw earlier that some module failed to load.  Was that you or someone elses apache problem?
[01:27] <nalioth> alumno: some modern microsoft video wont play no matter what you do
[01:27] <sobersabre> Norgus, which kern into which kern do you upgrade ?
[01:27] <B|4ckm0r3> nalioth: what debian pkgs are you talking about?
[01:27] <Norgus> whats a quick way to find my current version sobersabre ?
[01:27] <efkoj> Severian,  that whas myn
[01:27] <sobersabre> Norgus, uname -a
[01:27] <nalioth> B|4ckm0r3: the ones in the wiki URL you sent me
[01:27] <efkoj> Severian,  were cna i find the log (sorry pretty new to linux)
[01:27] <sobersabre> you'll see 2.x.y-blabla
[01:27] <Norgus> sobersabre, 2.6.12-9-386
[01:28] <Norgus> thanks :)
[01:28] <Bergcube> Is anyone familiar with the BOINC client?  ( http://boinc.berkeley.edu/index.php )  Is there an Ubuntu package somewhere I can apt-get?  Or has somebody written a small how-to for BOINC on Ubuntu?  ......or should I download from Berkeley, follow their advice and hope the best?  :-)
[01:28] <sobersabre> Norgus, and which version are you upgrading into ?
[01:28] <Norgus> I want to upgrade to 2.6.11
[01:28] <Norgus> its listed as sources in synaptic
[01:28] <Severian> I did not recognize the module name.  If you don't need the module, you may be able to edit httpd.conf and comment that line out.
[01:28] <sobersabre> I see... why won't you upgrade to 2.0.3
[01:28] <sobersabre> it is newer than 2.6.11 :)
[01:28] <Severian> efkoj, I did not recognize the module name.  If you don't need the module, you may be able to edit httpd.conf and comment that line out.
[01:28] <nalioth> Bergcube: i believe berkely offers source code
[01:29] <Norgus> sobersabre, good point >.>
[01:29] <alumno> nalioth,  y have VLC player and on this player i can play all me films, but i msut first open this player and add film, if i want open film with it player i have one error :S
[01:29] <sobersabre> Norgus, don't you see anything suspicious int "upgrading" from 2.6.12 into 2.6.11 ?
[01:29] <Norgus> sobersabre, sorry for being dumb lol
[01:29] <B|4ckm0r3> nalioth: ok it's just splashy and lib++dfb, so if i compile them it will be ok?
[01:29] <gabrieltomate> how i config xorg.conf? to able more display options? (here in ubuntu just show under 1024)
[01:29] <Bergcube> nalioth~  They do.  Is that better than the binary.  Or is it "only" more virus-free?
[01:29] <efkoj> Severian,  i need to module to get subversion running
[01:29] <Norgus> I read on nvidias forum that older than 2.6.11 can cause stability problems s
[01:30] <nalioth> Bergcube: yes, find the deb-src URLs and have apt-get build you the packages
[01:30] <Norgus> but I guess thats not the reason so sorry sobersabre
[01:30] <Stanley> bob2: how do i restart dovecot-pop3 ?
[01:30] <sobersabre> efkoj, you need to read the subversion book, www.svnbook.org ( i think) it has a sample configuration, simply use it for you.
[01:30] <Bergcube> nalioth~  Ah.  Good, I'll trust you on this one.  Thanks a lot.
[01:30] <nalioth> Bergcube: there are no viruses for linux, compiling from source for ubuntu is not a bad idea
[01:30] <atripathi> where is the MTU configuration for eth0 ?
[01:30] <Norgus> does anyone know why I get freezing when restartin X or shutting down with official nvidia drivers for my fx5700?
[01:31] <Severian> efkoj, Well, the error said the module was not found.  So, you'll need to look for it.  First, see if it is elsewhere on your hard drive.  Then google becomes your next tool to find a source.
[01:31] <nalioth> Bergcube: sorry i tab-completed the wrong person
[01:31] <nalioth> B|4ckm0r3: yes, find the deb-src URLs and have apt-get build you the packages
[01:31] <sobersabre> Norgus, maybe of nvidia bugs... maybe because your card isn't fully compatible with all the features your card tries to use on it... and hell knows what more
[01:31] <atripathi> anyone?
[01:31] <Bergcube> nalioth~  Even so I thought it made sense.  Maybe I need coffee.  Come to tihnk of it I definately do!  TTFN!
[01:32] <sobersabre> hmm Norgus discard the details, read the genreal message :)
[01:32] <B|4ckm0r3> nalioth: i've looked into the fpt of the link i've provided before, and the packages are ubuntu compiled not debian!does this make it ok?
[01:32] <bimberi> Stanley: try "sudo invoke-rc.d dovecot restart" (in a terminal)
[01:32] <Norgus> ok, xchat randomly just closed :(
[01:33] <nalioth> if they are ubuntu pkgs, it's better. (to be safe compile them yourself, as the pkgs arent official)
[01:34] <efkoj> Severian,  were does linux put his installed stuff?
[01:34] <nalioth> B|4ckm0r3: if you'd like to have a quick heads-up on using apt-get to compile pkgs, join #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:34] <Norgus> text mode irc time >.>
[01:34] <efkoj> i mean it will be in the subversion folder somewhere but where is the subversion folder placeD?
[01:34] <alumno> tell alumno about totem
[01:34] <Severian> efkoj, I don't understand.  Are you asking about Linux Torvalds?
[01:35] <Norgus> linus?
[01:35] <rixth> What program can I use to extract the audio from a avi file?
[01:35] <Severian> efkoj, because it is actually Linus :-)
[01:35] <ndisy> How can you change a bunch of file extensions in a folder at one time?
[01:35] <efkoj> no no
[01:36] <efkoj> i used synaptic to install subversion right? now i need to place 2 modules svn needs in the apche module folder
[01:36] <efkoj> but i cant find the 2 modules so my guess is that they are in the subversion installation folder
[01:36] <Severian> efkoj, do you mean where does Apache keep its files?  I am having to guess and that is not always easy.
[01:36] <chic> hello
[01:37] <efkoj> i know where apache does it
[01:37] <chic> helloooooooooooooooooo
[01:38] <chic> spanish?
[01:38] <Severian> efkoj, Well the debian package has instructions on where the files go.  You know the name of one of the modules, I believe.  Open a terminal window, Type these two commands    cd /       and   find -name package.module
[01:38] <Stanley> bimberi: Password:
[01:38] <Stanley> Restarting mail server: dovecotinvoke-rc.d: initscript dovecot, action "restart" failed.
[01:38] <duffman25> chic: yo
[01:38] <chic> ok duffman
[01:38] <chic> q tal
[01:38] <Severian> efkoj, do you understand?
[01:38] <duffman25> Hi, can someone explain me what's the current support for the current release until the new release is out? I mean, do ubuntu dev update translations, bugfixes or only security updates?
[01:38] <duffman25> hola chic
[01:39] <chic> q tal duffman
[01:39] <Whistler> hello
[01:39] <Whistler> how can i mount bin file?
[01:39] <chic> que edad tienes?
[01:39] <duffman25> chic un poco dormido
[01:39] <duffman25> chic 25
[01:39] <efkoj> find: invalid predicate `-mod_dav.so'
[01:39] <efkoj> root@ubuntu:/# find mod_dav.so
[01:39] <efkoj> find: mod_dav.so: No such file or directory
[01:39] <Stanley> Hi how do i restart Dovecot-pop3 ?
[01:39] <chic> de donde eres duffman?
[01:39] <duffman25> chic de madrid
[01:39] <Norgus> So does anyone know an issue on breezy where an nvidia system crashes when you tell x to restart or shutdown the computer?
[01:39] <duffman25> Hi, can someone explain me what's the current support for the current release until the new release is out? I mean, do ubuntu dev update translations, bugfixes or only security updates?
[01:40] <chic> tienes e_mail?
[01:40] <duffman25> chic: de donde eres tu?
[01:40] <chic> vivo en madrid pero soy de peru
[01:40] <Severian> efkoj,    find -name mod_dav.so
[01:41] <pitti> duffman25: we will occasionally update translations, too
[01:41] <vdrab> hello #ubuntu : what is the easy / preferred way to format external USB harddisk ? gparted? fdisk? something with a nice visual interface?
[01:41] <pitti> duffman25: and currently breezy-updates has quite some bug fixes
[01:41] <efkoj> Severian,  oh stupid me
[01:41] <efkoj> its searching
[01:42] <tristan622ph> i have just installed the glade package at synaptic, how can i run the appz?
[01:42] <duffman25> pitti: do you update gnome to lastest release? I mean, right now I using gnome 2.12.1, so when 2.12.2 arrives, there will be an update?
[01:42] <Stanley> Hi how do i restart Dovecot-pop3 ?
[01:42] <duffman25> pitti: what kind of bug fixes enter the breezy-updates archive?
[01:43] <smykes> How do I install a font a .ttf
[01:43] <efkoj> uhm it didnt find one module
[01:43] <topyli> hmm. the totem plugin doesn't quite cut it. it was better on hoary :(
[01:44] <smykes> you would think it would be a double click to install .ttf
[01:44] <Severian> efkoj, but it found the other one.  If so, that is some progress.
[01:44] <tristan622ph> how can i execute the glade application?
[01:44] <Whistler> how can i mount bin file?
[01:44] <Cratos> anyone got a easy how-to on to getting ubuntu to play MP3 and WMV files?
[01:44] <tristan622ph> what command will i type to run it?
[01:45] <Severian> ubotu, tell Cratos about RestrictedFormats
[01:45] <brownie17> friggen mircosoft is making a new Ajax replacement called XAML that is incompatible with every system but windows. they are such evil greedy weeds
[01:45] <chic> duffman no me respondes?
[01:45] <brownie17> 1restrictedformats
[01:45] <brownie17> !restrictedformats
[01:45] <ubotu> it has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[01:45] <duffman25> chic: perdona estoy un poco liado
[01:45] <brownie17> Cratos, read  what ubotu said
[01:45] <chic> ok
[01:46] <alumno> which comand are for search en apt-get ?
[01:46] <chic> duffman q buscas por aqui?
[01:46] <alumno> apt-get install search file ?
[01:46] <jbroome> alumno: apt-cache search foo
[01:46] <topyli> alumno: apt-cache search
[01:46] <alumno> thanks
[01:46] <brownie17> bob2, only 2.5 mins left on breezy download!
[01:46] <alumno> chic hola ;) spain ?
[01:46] <[caminante] > jo, gente que habla espaol... :-P
[01:46] <chic> si chic
[01:46] <duffman25> chic: pues respuestas a mis dudas xD
[01:47] <[caminante] > que guai...
[01:47] <[caminante] > :-D
[01:47] <chic> ahh
[01:47] <chic> si alumno
[01:47] <chic> q dudas?
[01:47] <alumno> ciudad ?
[01:47] <chic> hablas ingles?
[01:47] <chic> madrid
[01:47] <duffman25> a los que hablais espaol teneis #ubuntu-es
[01:47] <alumno> yo un poko hablo
[01:47] <duffman25> por si no lo conociais
[01:47] <chic> ok alumno
[01:47] <alumno> no lo savia
[01:47] <brownie17> how do i add a memo?
[01:47] <alumno> pero en ingles tb esta bien asi aprendes idioma
[01:48] <chic> si alumno
[01:48] <[caminante] > znks duffman25
[01:48] <duffman25> alumno: si, pero ahora ests hablando espaol :P
[01:48] <alumno> ya ;)
[01:48] <chic> yo quiero aprender ingles
[01:49] <brownie17> lots of foreign languages in here, maybe spanish?
[01:49] <chic> alumno q edad tienes?
[01:49] <[caminante] > yes
[01:49] <brownie17> i am no tri linguist, two is enough for me
[01:49] <[caminante] > :-P
[01:49] <alumno> chic vamos a ingladera ?
[01:49] <[caminante] > i have enough with one
[01:49] <[caminante] > :-P
[01:49] <chic> si, me giustaria alumno
[01:49] <alumno> por sierto ire a madrid a fairia de informatica
[01:49] <alumno> cierto
[01:50] <alumno> :P
[01:50] <oz__> Does anyone know where to get mysql 4.1.14/15 packages for breezy from?
[01:50] <chic> de donde eres alumno?
[01:50] <alumno> Murcia
[01:50] <chic> ah ok
[01:50] <Danny|> Is there a way to make Firefox close tabs when I middle click them?
[01:50] <chic> yo estudio informatica
[01:50] <alumno> se puede poner steam en linux ?
[01:50] <alumno> yo tb
[01:51] <chic> yo soy de peru pero vivo en madrid
[01:51] <alumno> yo soy de Lituania pero vivo en Murcia
[01:51] <alumno> :P
[01:51] <alumno> k estudais ?
[01:51] <chic> ahmmm
[01:51] <brownie17> breezy update is happening RIGHT NOW!
[01:51] <chic> informatica, estoy en practicas
[01:51] <Samu> hi people
[01:51] <alumno> universidad ?
[01:51] <bob2> chic: alumno this is an english-speaking channel
[01:51] <alumno> ok
[01:51] <karen> GOOD MORNING--- wanted to know if theres anyway to adjust my printer color. I've changed the color and black cartridges and color is still funky. Where do I go to adjust the color????
[01:51] <brownie17> proceeding to defcon 3
[01:52] <chic> what bood2?
[01:52] <Samu> i have followed this guide to get the ati drivers working but still no good 3d performance (just like default) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75428 Any ideas?
[01:52] <brownie17> Samu, i have heard of ATI 3d working in only hoary so far, which are you running atm?
[01:52] <duffman25> I have to go, thanxs pitti, bye alumno, chic
[01:52] <Severian> Danny|, what you just asked for seems to be the default behaviour.  Did you break it?
[01:52] <Samu> breezy
[01:53] <Samu> thats weird
[01:53] <Whistler> how can i mount bin file?
[01:53] <alumno> chic look your msg messengs
[01:53] <brownie17> Samu, i do not know why, it is just what i have heard.
[01:53] <Samu> brownie17: ill will investigate further..
[01:53] <brownie17> Samu, i beleive madpilot was having trouble with it, earlier he asked. try him
[01:53] <chic> ya lo veo alumno
[01:53] <Danny|> Severian, it is the default behaviour in windows. In Linux however always on middle click it loads a new webpage with the text i just copied in some other app.
[01:53] <alumno> answer :D
[01:53] <karen> GOOD MORNING--- wanted to know if theres anyway to adjust my printer color. I've changed the color and black cartridges and color is still funky. Where do I go to adjust the color????
[01:53] <Danny|> ala paste - go
[01:53] <chic> ya he respondido
[01:53] <Samu> ok, so has anyone got ati 3d working with breezy?
[01:54] <Severian> Danny|,  On my Linux system, if I middle click on the tab itself(the piece at the top), the tab closes.
[01:54] <GreenFireD> hello
[01:54] <brownie17> bob2, when installing breezy it asks me if i want to replace my old /etc/login.defs file with the new one. says i modified the old one, not manually. why? should i just get the new one, or will that mean i cannot choose xfce and kde in the session manager?
[01:55] <Danny|> Severian, well I don't have that. :(
[01:55] <Severian> Danny|, I don't have a windows system handy to compare that to.
[01:55] <Danny|> That's what happens in windows as well, when I middle click the tab it closes.
[01:55] <chic> alumno tienes e_mail
[01:55] <Danny|> In Ubuntu however it does a paste > go thing.
[01:55] <Samu> how long has breezy been out? (first time serious ubuntu user)
[01:55] <brownie17> Samu, like two weeks
[01:55] <Samu> ahh
[01:55] <Samu> that would explain it
[01:56] <Danny|> Explain what?
[01:56] <alumno> chic put /msg alumno text
[01:56] <Samu> Why ati drivers arnt working with 3d properly
[01:56] <Cam-> hey ive been having problems with dual monitor on my 9250, its got two monitors connected to the one card and all ive tried has just got me to the same point.. cloned desktop on both screens
[01:56] <GreenFireD> I have 2 computers, one with linux and one with Windows, How can I connect with them(line connection)?
[01:56] <Severian> Danny|, Now that I think about it more, I remember that I installed an Extension called TabBrowser Preferences.  It expanded how the tab feature works.
[01:56] <brownie17> yeah, support for it is not GREAT yet, but i will not take too long to get better, seriously though, if 3d grtpahics really bother you, or you are a gamer, then you MIGHT try going back to hoary for a while, just until things settle in. but there is no guarantee it will work in hoary either, try researching it through google.
[01:57] <Whistler> how can i mount bin file?
[01:57] <chic> ya lo he ehcho
[01:57] <Danny|> Severian, blah that must be it. :| I don't like that extension though. :(
[01:57] <Samu> Ive just switched my main workstation over from gentoo as I wanted more recent packages
[01:57] <Samu> Whistler: google is your friend
[01:57] <_jason> Danny|:  its in about:config search for middle click... it is someithing with "contentloadURL"
[01:57] <chic> alumno me voy
[01:57] <chic> voy a comer
[01:57] <alumno> ok
[01:57] <alumno> dew
[01:57] <brownie17> whistler, "mount" bin file?
[01:58] <efkoj> anybody who has setup subversion with apache on ubuntu?
[01:58] <chic> alumno q edad tienes?
[01:58] <mjr> Whistler, "bin file" doesn't really say anything
[01:58] <alumno> 20
[01:58] <alumno> you ?
[01:58] <brownie17> Danny|, why do you not like the extension, it is great!
[01:58] <_jason> Danny|:  "middlemouse.contentLoadURL" is the exact preference name
[01:58] <Danny|> found it yeah
[01:58] <alumno> you chic ?
[01:58] <Whistler> mjr i have movie in bin file
[01:58] <Danny|> weee
[01:58] <Danny|> :D
[01:58] <brownie17> Whistler, bin files could be anything, you need to be more specific
[01:58] <mjr> Whistler, generally you can mount drive images with sudo mount -o loop file.image /directory/where/you/want/to/mount/it
[01:58] <Danny|> brownie17, because I don't need it? I like how things are now. :)
[01:58] <Severian> brownie17, I assume he wanted to mount a loopback filesystem on the file.  That is frequently done for encrypted filesystems.
[01:59] <Danny|> _jason, cheers mate ;)
[01:59] <chic> 22
[01:59] <Danny|> it works now
[01:59] <alumno> ;)
[01:59] <brownie17> Severian, ok
[01:59] <mjr> Whistler, with possibly a -t filesystem_type switch added
[01:59] <Whistler> k thx
[01:59] <_jason> Danny|:  yep, had the same problem :D
[01:59] <alumno> can i read from me ntfs partition ext3 partition ?
[01:59] <Cam-> ive seriously tried everything on this, just wanting my second monitor to span the desktop
[01:59] <Cam-> instead of clone
[01:59] <brownie17> so what is 00o2 like compared to one?
[02:00] <Whistler> how can i view w32 videos inside opera?
[02:00] <mjr> Whistler, of course, if your bin file is not a plain image, but eg. a CD-ROM image used by some Windows CD burners, it won't work directly; try bchunk to convert to an ISO image first
[02:01] <GreenFireD> I have 2 computers, one with linux and one with Windows, How can I connect with them(line connection)?
[02:01] <brownie17> mjr, cna "bchunk" convert .ccd's and things to .ISO?
[02:01] <hypn0> is it possible to do a 5/6 floppy ubuntu install off hdd iso like fedora
[02:01] <brownie17> GreenFireD, ethernet?
[02:01] <mjr> brownie17, just bin/cue, I think
[02:01] <nalioth> brownie17: just cue/bin
[02:01] <Severian> GreenFireD, do they both have ethernet adapters?
[02:01] <rose> hello....i just uploaded everything and stuff..but i still have the 5.04 when i do cat /etc/issue.....how do i upgrade to 5.1?????
[02:01] <brownie17> GreenFireD, get network cards in both of them, use a crossover network cable to connect them, then restart the windows mahcine and run the home or small office network wizard
[02:02] <Antioch> Even though I changed my icon set, the icon in the top left of the window for applications such as firefox and terminal are still the default ones and not the ones in the icon set... how can I change this?
[02:02] <Cam-> hrmm, my xorg config file is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81257, can anyone help?
[02:02] <rose> i used...update manager...and i want to upgrade to 5.1 via this method.....
[02:02] <brownie17> rose, i got the same problem, what i did was, downloaded the image and burn it to a cd, added the cd to synaptic and run smart upgrade. it is working now
[02:03] <Whistler> anybody knows how can i view videos inside opera?
[02:03] <Cam-> dont you need plugins for that Whistler?
[02:03] <rose> k...since i just downloaded the new stuff...where can i find it in my system so that i will burn this to cd....???
[02:03] <Cam-> hey ive been having problems with dual monitor on my 9250, its got two monitors connected to the one card and all ive tried has just got me to the same point.. cloned desktop on both screens. my xorg config is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81257
[02:03] <brownie17> mjr, nalioth. cue files are the ones clonecd creates when you tell it to make it compatible with a wider range of other burnigng programs, you think?
[02:03] <efkoj> is build-deps wrong?
[02:04] <Whistler> Cam- where can i get them?
[02:04] <marcin> hi guys
[02:04] <Cam-> i dont use opera i use firefox so i couldnt say
[02:04] <Cam-> but
[02:04] <marcin> is there package with php manual?
[02:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rose about upgrade2breezy
[02:04] <efkoj> efkoj@ubuntu:~/subversion$ sudo apt-get build-deps subversion E: Invalid operation build-deps
[02:04] <efkoj> why?
[02:04] <GreenFireD> Severian, We have 1 modem, one computer connected to the modem with USB and one with Card
[02:04] <nalioth> efkoj: it's "build-dep" not with an s
[02:04] <brownie17> bob2, it just gave me some error about writing to /var/cache/apt/something about mozilla and closed down whle updating to breezy. firefox was open, did that matter? why is this stuffing me around so much!?!?
[02:05] <Cam-> Whistler: http://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/install/
[02:05] <brownie17> gtg
[02:05] <Cam-> im pretty sure ull want the mplayer plugin
[02:05] <Cam-> :)
[02:05] <GreenFireD> brownie17, I don't want to share Internet in both them, I just want to share files
[02:05] <Severian> GreenFireD, By card, do you mean that the computer has an ethernet card?
[02:05] <Cam-> hey ive been having problems with dual monitor on my 9250, its got two monitors connected to the one card and all ive tried has just got me to the same point.. cloned desktop on both screens. my xorg config is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81257
[02:06] <feugan3333> Hi all. Is there any way to verify the integrity of packages in universe?
[02:06] <efkoj> nalioth,  i get this now : efkoj@ubuntu:~/subversion$ sudo apt-get build-dep subversion
[02:06] <efkoj> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource te mporarily unavailable)
[02:06] <efkoj> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/) , is another process using it?
[02:06] <GreenFireD> Severian, yes. in one of them
[02:06] <Stormx_> Cam-: I'm not sure :-\ sorry
[02:06] <sobersabre> efkoj, CLOSE THE f%%%%% synaptic
[02:06] <nalioth> efkoj: close all your terminals and synaptics
[02:07] <efkoj> ok thx
[02:07] <sobersabre> you cannot access a file based dumb DB with 2 processes
[02:07] <linxeh> what is the difference between the normal ubuntu cd and the server edition? if I install "server" from the normal install cd, do I get the same things as I would from the server cd ?
[02:07] <sobersabre> efkoj, I still don't understand... why do you need to build-dep
[02:07] <sobersabre> are you not sarisfied with the vanilla package?!?!?!
[02:08] <sobersabre> it is apt-get install subversion
[02:08] <sobersabre> that's all.
[02:08] <sobersabre> and then configure the module
[02:08] <Severian> GreenFireD, Then, your best option would be to install ethernet on the other computer.  There are other ways, but that is usually best.  If the computer with a modem has an empty pci slot, an ethernet adapter should be about 10 or 15 dollars.
[02:09] <sobersabre> efkoj, I have installed apache2 with subversion. I don't remember anything of it, except creating the passwords for the users. I will work with x.509 certs and then there will be no need for that too
[02:09] <feugan3333> Any way to verify the integrity of packages in universe?
[02:10] <Severian> GreenFireD, I just realized that your currency is not dollars.  But it should not be expensive, anyway.  Can you add an ethernet card?
[02:10] <sobersabre> feugan3333, they are verified with gpg
[02:10] <Cam-> hey ive been having problems with dual monitor on my 9250, its got two monitors connected to the one card and all ive tried has just got me to the same point.. cloned desktop on both screens. my xorg config is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81257
[02:10] <Samu> hi again people
[02:10] <GreenFireD> Severian, but I can connect the computers Windows with Windows(I have Windows and Linux in one computer), now I want to connect aslo the linux
[02:10] <feugan3333> sobersabre: I keep getting the message: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[02:10] <Samu> anyone who want ATI 3d support do as follows: apt-get the fglrx driver for xorg and run fglrxconfig.. easy
[02:11] <sobersabre> feugan3333, are you sure they are from universe, and not some other place ?
[02:11] <Samu> why there are so many dud tutorials out there i do not know
[02:11] <nalioth> feugan3333: disregard or get the gpg key for the repo you are using
[02:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell feugan3333 about gpgerr
[02:11] <Cam-> Samu: wish it was so easy to setup dual monitors
[02:12] <Severian> GreenFireD, How do you connect them with Windows?
[02:12] <Samu> Cam-: ATI card?
[02:12] <sobersabre> ubotu: tell sobersabre about gpgerr
[02:12] <Cam-> yeh Samu
[02:12] <Cam-> Radeon 9250
[02:12] <feugan3333> nalioth: thanks. Thats what I needed to know
[02:12] <Samu> Cam-: do what i said then.. there is dual monitor setup info in fglrx
[02:12] <Samu> may help
[02:12] <Cam-> i know about that and ive tried fglrxconfig
[02:12] <Cam-> to no avail
[02:12] <Samu> ahh ok
[02:12] <Cam-> then i created my own with peoples experiences in ubuntuforums
[02:13] <Samu> cant help ya then
[02:13] <Cam-> still no avail
[02:13] <Cam-> cool
[02:13] <Cam-> ta neway
[02:13] <Samu> ;)
[02:13] <Stormx_> Somebody Help Cam-!
[02:14] <Stormx_> eck
[02:14] <linxeh> why is the wiki on a https server?
[02:14] <Stormx_> stupid trillian lagged sending that message by, say, 5 minutes.
[02:14] <Stormx_> I don't know. I get loads of authentification errors in IE :-\
[02:14] <antisocialboris> i d/led and installed enemy teritory but when i try to run it i get an  error, can someone help?
[02:15] <Cam-> antisocialboris how many lines is the error?
[02:15] <antisocialboris> in brief it says im using software Mesa (no acceleration!)
[02:16] <Cam-> i would guess and say you need hardware acceleration
[02:16] <dorto> is there no option to install the applications from a copy of ubuntu packages on local network/media after the base system is installed from the first cd?
[02:16] <Cam-> what vid card you got?
[02:16] <antisocialboris> and gives me a command if i want to use that, whihc runs the game but stupidly slow
[02:16] <dorto> do i have to install apps from internet?
[02:16] <dorto> there is only one cd for download
[02:16] <antisocialboris> ive got a decent video card, i could run the game fine back in my windows days
[02:16] <Cam-> what model antisocial?
[02:16] <johns^> I never heard of 'decent'
[02:16] <nalioth> dorto: you'll need to read at debian.org on how to set up a local repository
[02:17] <antisocialboris> im not sure off the top of my head, can i run a command to check?
[02:17] <dorto> what do i need to download to setup the repository?
[02:17] <nalioth> dorto: and yes, you'll need the internet if you want more pkgs than there are on the cd
[02:17] <Cam-> lspci might tell you, paste the contents to me in privmsg
[02:17] <nalioth> dorto: you need to read at debian.org "the new maintainers guide" on setting up a local repository
[02:18] <dorto> k
[02:18] <ronalde> how can i change the behaviour of the [end]  en [home]  keys in gnome-terminal
[02:18] <fabian__> whats the best way to clone a partition?
[02:18] <fabian__> (/home in this case)
[02:19] <johns^> rsync
[02:19] <Cam-> hey ive been having problems with dual monitor on my 9250, its got two monitors connected to the one card and all ive tried has just got me to the same point.. cloned desktop on both screens. my xorg config is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81257
[02:19] <dorto> i have to setup the local repository of debian packages or i just have to follow that procedure and use ubuntu packages?
[02:19] <johns^> or cp -a
[02:19] <dorto> or they both are same packages?
[02:19] <antisocialboris> i cant privmsgf cos im not registered and it complains about spam
[02:20] <nalioth> antisocialboris: so register
[02:20] <Cam-> or paste in #flood antisocialboris
[02:20] <alumno> why when i want to clean me CDR-W i hace error what i msot to mount cdrom0 ? when i have yet it ?
[02:21] <johns^> a lot of people with broken keyboards lately?
[02:21] <antisocialboris> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 
[02:21] <antisocialboris> is that what you need to know?
[02:21] <Cam-> yeh
[02:21] <fabian__> johns^ so just do a cp -aR /home/* /newhome ?
[02:21] <Cam-> that is
[02:21] <Cam-> but im not sure if the mobility is supported by fglrx or not
[02:21] <Cam-> lol
[02:21] <Cam-> fyi your vid card is a Mobility Radeon 9600
[02:22] <johns^> fabian__: hm, not sure. I often use the harddisk upgrade howto from the linux documentation project
[02:22] <antisocialboris> do i need to search for an accelerator for it?
[02:22] <fabian__> johns^ ok, thanks
[02:22] <bugsblue_e2005> Good evening everyone...[it's 8:30pm local time - Phils.] 
[02:22] <johns^> I believe just cp -a /home/ /newhome
[02:23] <bugsblue_e2005> Would like some help about my Ubuntu 5.04 installation
[02:23] <Cam-> antisocial: if its supported by fglrx then you can follow the tutorials off the ubuntu wiki
[02:23] <Cam-> how to set it up
[02:23] <Cam-> its quite easy
[02:23] <antisocialboris> ok, ill give it a go
[02:23] <bugsblue_e2005> I have a dual-boot Win98/Ubuntu setup, now I changed my motherboard
[02:24] <Cam-> hey ive been having problems with dual monitor on my 9250, its got two monitors connected to the one card and all ive tried has just got me to the same point.. cloned desktop on both screens. my xorg config is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81257
[02:24] <bugsblue_e2005> How do I re-scan for the new hardware?
[02:24] <egoleo_> having problem installing mencoder on breezy
[02:24] <egoleo_> is it possible
[02:25] <bugsblue_e2005> Anybody want to help me ???
[02:25] <alumno> for mount cdrom which file sistem must i to put ?
[02:25] <Cam-> btw antisocial: i just checked, and mobility radeon 9600 M10 is supported by fglrx
[02:25] <Stanley> Hi how do i restart Dovecot-pop3 ?
[02:25] <fabian__> johns^ : yep, seems to be correct, thanks. im gonna try that now ,P
[02:25] <johns^> goodluck
[02:25] <johns^> :)
[02:25] <linxeh> does anyone know the difference between the ubuntu breezy "server" install option, and the separate server install cd ?
[02:25] <fabian__> ty
[02:25] <antisocialboris> is it just gonna be a case of sudo apt-get install fglrx?
[02:26] <Cam-> no you have to add repositories first
[02:26] <Cam-> follow the wiki
[02:26] <Cam-> its easy
[02:26] <egoleo_> can someone help me on installing mencoder on breezy
[02:26] <antisocialboris> balls, cos im having problems with apt-get atm anyway
[02:27] <antisocialboris> any idea where on the wiki it is?
[02:27] <efkoj> root@ubuntu:/# find -name mod_dav_svn.so
[02:27] <efkoj> ./home/efkoj/subversion/subversion-1.2.0/subversion-1.2.0/subversion/mod_dav_svn/.libs/mod_dav_svn.so
[02:27] <efkoj> what does the "." mean before libs?
[02:27] <Stormx_> linux install time
[02:27] <_jason> what is a good place to keep shell scripts I create (is there some existing directory where I should put them)?
[02:28] <Cam-> ahh no anyone got the link to the fglrx install wiki?
[02:28] <johns^> _jason: your homedir
[02:28] <efkoj> i cannot find the damn file
[02:28] <egoleo_> any program like net send on breezy
[02:28] <Stanley> Hi how do i restart Dovecot-pop3 ?
[02:29] <Stanley> bob2: ?
[02:29] <Cam-> egoleo_: net send is specific to windows NT
[02:29] <Cam-> so thats a no
[02:29] <efkoj> anybody please?
[02:29] <Cam-> hrmm can anyone help me with my dual monitor problem?
[02:29] <bugsblue_e2005> hello, somebody there like to help me, how to boot Ubuntu after I change my motherboard
[02:29] <egoleo_> ok
[02:30] <egoleo_> so any similar program for ubuntu
[02:30] <alumno> I want to burn DVD and have error monting /media/cdrom0 ? waht i msut to do ?
[02:30] <alumno> mounting
[02:30] <johns^> efkoj: what's your question exactly?
[02:31] <Cam-> egoleo_: yes, ssh'ing to the other machine and running wall or send or something =P
[02:31] <darksatanic> efkoj: The . before libs is exactly that -- a dot in the directory name.
[02:31] <johns^> bugsblue_e2005: have you tried booting already?
[02:31] <egoleo_> thnx
[02:31] <efkoj> aah ok
[02:31] <efkoj> no special meaning?
[02:31] <darksatanic> efkoj: All files and directories with leading dots are hidden in UNIX filesystem semantics.
[02:31] <johns^> a dotfile is hidden
[02:31] <johns^> waht darksatanic said
[02:32] <efkoj> ok
[02:32] <efkoj> how can you copy a file?
[02:32] <efkoj> in command line?
[02:32] <johns^> cp
[02:32] <Cam-> meh i take it no one knows anything about dual monitors in ubuntu?
[02:32] <darksatanic> cp <sourcefile> <destinationfile>
[02:32] <efkoj> ok thx allot
[02:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell efkoj about cli
[02:32] <bugsblue_e2005> booting? not yet, so i have to try?  This is the machine I'm using to chat with you...
[02:32] <nalioth> knowledge is power
[02:33] <efkoj> thx!
[02:33] <johns^> bugsblue_e2005: I changed a Via socket 370 mobo with a VIA KT600 socket a
[02:33] <Cam-> lol, right then
[02:33] <johns^> juist worked
[02:33] <johns^> -i
[02:33] <antisocialboris> ok, i think ive found it, now if only apt-get worked
[02:33] <sorush20> guys have a look at this how do I change my font to what it was normally? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3551
[02:33] <Cam-> its not power to me.. ive spent hours on this stupid computer
[02:33] <Cam-> about to give up
[02:34] <alumno> somebody can help me ?
[02:34] <bugsblue_e2005> johns^:  My former MoBo is Epox BX5 (Intel chipset), I changed it to Abit VA6 (Via chipset)
[02:34] <alumno> i can t burn dvd
[02:34] <johns^> Ubuntu is amazingly flexible
[02:34] <johns^> You have a good change of a working system after the first boot
[02:34] <Stanley> Anybody:  How do i restart Dovecot's pop3 service?
[02:35] <efkoj> root@ubuntu:/home/efkoj/subversion/subversion-1.2.0/subversion-1.2.0/subversion/mod_dav_svn/.libs# cp mod_dav_svn.so usr/lib/apache2/modules
[02:35] <efkoj> cp: cannot create regular file `usr/lib/apache2/modules': No such file or directory
[02:35] <efkoj> root@ubuntu:/
[02:35] <johns^> change?
[02:35] <efkoj> uhm?
[02:35] <bugsblue_e2005> johns^: So will you bear with me and wait?  I'll come back on mIRC later?
[02:35] <efkoj> aah i know why sorry
[02:35] <johns^> bugsblue_e2005: I'm probably here
[02:36] <Stanley> bob2: Can you help me?
[02:36] <bugsblue_e2005> johns^: It may be a while before I can't get back to chat with you, ok?
[02:36] <highvoltage> hi, i have a line in my inetd.conf that says "imaps stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/imapd
[02:36] <bugsblue_e2005> johns^: thanx, will get back as fast as I can.....
[02:36] <highvoltage> but there's no port 993 open on the box. what am i doing wrong?
[02:37] <Cam-> hey ive been having problems with dual monitor on my 9250, its got two monitors connected to the one card and all ive tried has just got me to the same point.. cloned desktop on both screens. my xorg config is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81257
[02:38] <keyes> hello
[02:39] <Cam-> ok i take that as an o
[02:39] <Cam-> be
[02:39] <Cam-> as a no
[02:41] <alsh> Hello! How can I move user profiles (created with adduser tool) from Debian to Ubuntu? I want passwords to stay the same... I tried to look at help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com, but couldn't find anything about it.
[02:42] <derchilligephil> is there a standard firewall installed
[02:42] <derchilligephil> and how can i set ports in it for porgrams
[02:42] <johns^> copy the entries from /etc/passwd /etc/group /etc/shadow and /etc/gshadow
[02:42] <nalioth_zZz> derchilligephil: by default, ubuntu is a black hole on the web
[02:42] <efkoj> were can you find the apache2 log file?
[02:42] <derchilligephil> but my azureus wont get connection
[02:43] <derchilligephil> i forwarded the port
[02:43] <derchilligephil> the tracker is ok
[02:43] <derchilligephil> but no conneciotns :(
[02:43] <nalioth_zZz> derchilligephil: its nothing on your linux box, check your router
[02:43] <derchilligephil> my router is fin
[02:43] <derchilligephil> e
[02:43] <Jowi> hello all
[02:43] <derchilligephil> i used it before with windows
[02:43] <derchilligephil> same settings
[02:43] <derchilligephil> works good with azureus
[02:43] <nalioth_zZz> derchilligephil: try another torrent client
[02:44] <nalioth_zZz> derchilligephil: as a control
[02:44] <derchilligephil> yeah maybe i will try it brb
[02:44] <alsh> johns^: thank you!
[02:44] <derchilligephil> but azureus have nice functions i dont want to miss !
[02:44] <derchilligephil> mhh
[02:44] <Jowi> found this 166mhz pentium in the trash. works fine after a HDD replacement. Ubuntu installer does not recognise the ISA 3c509b NIC. NIC works fine from win98se. how do i enable it for the ubuntu-installer?
[02:46] <ncp> Should i install Ubuntu 64 ore 32?
[02:46] <[maven] > How do I recompile the restricted modules for a custom kernel?
[02:46] <derchilligephil> maybe i installed azureus wrong ?
[02:46] <nalioth_zZz> ncp: for entertainment use, install an x86 arch
[02:46] <derchilligephil> i only extract it
[02:46] <derchilligephil> and copy the azureus folder to /etc/
[02:47] <derchilligephil> no i run it by /etc/azureus/azureus
[02:47] <derchilligephil> is this ok ?
[02:47] <derchilligephil> now i run it by /etc/azureus/azureus
[02:47] <johns^> derchilligephil: probably not
[02:48] <Hendric> gud pm all
[02:48] <Dunston> Derchilligephil: do you gave java/blackdown installed?
[02:48] <derchilligephil> azureus is working
[02:48] <derchilligephil> its launching
[02:48] <derchilligephil> and i can do eversythin
[02:48] <derchilligephil> but he wont get connections
[02:48] <bugsblue_e2005> johns^:  Hi, I'm back, using the X-Chat client of the Ubuntu in the same machine....
[02:48] <derchilligephil> but he says the port is ok
[02:49] <bugsblue_e2005> johns^:  Thanks a lot for your help.  If it's still ok, I still have another problem...with another machine...
[02:50] <bugsblue_e2005> I see you're a bit busy, right...
[02:51] <johns^> was
[02:51] <johns^> I'm back
[02:52] <bugsblue_e2005> ok,  my other problem is, I have an Ubuntu desktop with the hard disk having two partitions.  One for Linux and another FAT32.
[02:53] <Stanley> Anybody:  How do i restart Dovecot's pop3 service?
[02:53] <johns^> bugsblue_e2005: no swap?
[02:53] <efkoj> what should be in your httpd.conf?
[02:53] <efkoj> more then 5 lines?
[02:53] <bugsblue_e2005> I partitioned using Ubuntu during install including the swap file.
[02:54] <efkoj> under /ect/apache2/httpd.conf ?
[02:54] <bugsblue_e2005> Now, I deleted the Fat32 portion and the Swap file got deleted, too.
[02:54] <titanium> bahh, finally getting my system back to where it was before i wrecked it
[02:54] <johns^> ah ok
[02:54] <bugsblue_e2005> Now that's the problem.....u see...
[02:54] <titanium> chown -R root:root /    as root really sucks :(
[02:54] <topyli> Stanley: sudo /etc/init.d/dovecot restart
[02:55] <johns^> bugsblue_e2005: so you have to make some partitions in the free space?
[02:55] <alumno> Windows can read ext3 ???
[02:55] <bugsblue_e2005> yes, i tried to run parted and create a swap file, still can't properly login to Ubuntu
[02:55] <aftertaf> with explore2fs, yes
[02:55] <dorto> use explore2fs to read ext3 partitions in windows
[02:56] <johns^> bugsblue_e2005: use fdisk
[02:56] <alumno> thanks
[02:56] <Bluemat> Hey all, Im running firestarter and Ive noticed an active connection to the following address 137.226.102.146 on port: 8734 - How can I find out what this is, I have not allowed this port to be active in my inbound/outbound traffic policy, any ideas?
[02:56] <bugsblue_e2005> Anyway, I have already a Win98SE boot disk handy, if ever I get impatient with this thing...
[02:57] <Stanley> Topyli: thanks man
[02:57] <johns^> bugsblue_e2005: as I said, use fdisk, make partitions in the free space
[02:57] <johns^> create a swap partition
[02:58] <bugsblue_e2005> My only concern is, I have a successful install of Wine in that machine...which I intend to explore with my Windows games
[02:58] <johns^> you can boot into linux?
[02:58] <Goan> Let me ask this: If I do a fresh Badger install, then what is the easiest way to get mp3 files playing?
[02:58] <efkoj> what does it mean when a file is colored green?
[02:59] <aftertaf> efkoj:  that it's executable?
[02:59] <bugsblue_e2005> Yeah, can boot into Linux, but can't login to Gnome
[02:59] <efkoj> ok
[02:59] <Goan> I have found different suggestions in wiki, forums etc pointing in different directions...
[02:59] <Stanley> Topyli: Can you help, me pop3 doesnt work in OExpress
[02:59] <Stanley> Topyli: Well i cant even telnet into it
[02:59] <bugsblue_e2005> the machine give me the # prompt instead
[02:59] <feugan3333> perl does not have thread support by default?
[02:59] <topyli> Stanley: have you enabled pop3 in dovecot.conf?
[03:00] <johns^> bugsblue_e2005: then maybe something more is wrong
[03:00] <Stanley> Topyli: Yes
[03:00] <Jowi> Goan, 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad' . that will let rhythmbox play mp3
[03:00] <topyli> Stanley: well that's probably why you wanted to restart it :)
[03:00] <johns^> can you login in text mode
[03:00] <feugan3333> efkoj: Its executable
[03:00] <aftertaf> Bluemat:  weird...... its not a website.
[03:00] <Goan> thnx, 'll try right away...
[03:00] <bugsblue_e2005> I believe, I lost my user account in the process I just described a while ago...
[03:01] <bugsblue_e2005> So that's why.....
[03:01] <Stanley> Topyli: Yes, can you help, the restart didnt work
[03:01] <topyli> topyli: i'm struggling with dovecot myself. i can't seem to get imap working. something must have changed :(
[03:01] <topyli> Stanley: ^^
[03:01] <johns^> and no root pass I guess
[03:01] <topyli> i'm talking to myself
[03:02] <Stanley> Topyli: Lol
[03:02] <bugsblue_e2005> I'm turning the machine on right now, I'll let you know the exact flow of things.....alright
[03:02] <johns^> yup
[03:02] <aftertaf> Bluemat:  try a tracerrt
[03:03] <bugsblue_e2005> the first error -   Mount: special device /dev/hda5 does not exist
[03:04] <Stanley> Can anybody help be setup Dovecot ?
[03:04] <johns^> it's vital that you can log in
[03:04] <Bluemat> aftertaf, tracert?
[03:04] <aftertaf> Bluemat:  yep. see where it is.  you may have been pwned
[03:05] <Bluemat> is it tracerrt or traceroute ?
[03:05] <thom_> !nvidia
[03:05] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:05] <Discipulus> what do I need to download to play .avi movies?
[03:06] <bugsblue_e2005> a dialog box says here: Your home directory is listed as '/home/user2'  but it does not appear to exist. Do you want to login with the /root directory as your home directory?  It is unlikely anything will work unless you use a failsafe session.
[03:06] <johns^> ah ok gewoon proberen
[03:06] <johns^> sorry
[03:06] <johns^> just try :)
[03:06] <aftertaf> traceroute
[03:06] <gand> Sorry how can I set up Italian keyboard on PPC?
[03:07] <boobaa> hi ubuntu ppl
[03:07] <boobaa> I've problems with an asus k8v-x mb while installing ubuntu
[03:08] <bugsblue_e2005> I believe gnome was damaged, too...
[03:08] <gand> with Italy layout and generic 104 all symbol are messed up :(
[03:08] <bugsblue_e2005> what I mean is, the ~/gnome2 directory - failed to create itself
[03:08] <jenny_> ..................
[03:09] <johns^> obviously
[03:09] <johns^> you don't have write permissions there
[03:09] <boobaa> setup detects my nic and loads a skge module for it, which is not usable, since the network is only 100Mb/s over here
[03:09] <johns^> you should try to login in text mode
[03:09] <cafuego_> directories never create themselves, they get created by applications.
[03:09] <bugsblue_e2005> how do I login in txt mode?
[03:09] <gand> it work before with 5.04
[03:09] <cafuego_> what a retarded error mesasage <heh>
[03:09] <johns^> ctrl-alt-f1
[03:09] <johns^> then name + pass
[03:10] <dorto> can i install apps in ubuntu from debian mirrors?
[03:11] <johns^> msg bugsblue_e2005 maybe a private channel. less distraction
[03:11] <MenZa`> lol
[03:11] <johns^> for others to. damn I should pay more attention to what I'm writing
[03:11] <bugsblue_e2005> Ok, thanks , you mean your 'johns^' window ....OK
[03:12] <Davidleeroth> I have a problem... I recently network installed Ubuntu.  My sound appears to work, but no sound emits from the speakers.
[03:12] <Davidleeroth> it is an ac97 IXP
[03:13] <aftertaf> why does sound appear to work? can you go to control centre and check?
[03:13] <__2> !vmware
[03:13] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, __2
[03:13] <Davidleeroth> aftertaf, it looks like it works because it is not on mute
[03:13] <Davidleeroth> and its full blast
[03:13] <__2> vmware need kernel source tree for compiling modules
[03:13] <Davidleeroth> but nothingcomes out
[03:13] <aftertaf> Davidleeroth:  test sound in any way you can find......
[03:13] <__2> how I can install it, I tried to install  linux-source-2.6.12 without success
[03:14] <titanium> anyone using freenx?
[03:14] <aftertaf> Davidleeroth:  open xms or something, add some files and see if it says something error like.
[03:15] <titanium> i had it installed but i had to reformat last night. i forget how to install it. i have all of the .debs which i compiled and i can just dpkg -i them but i think i need something else too.
[03:15] <Discipulus> ubotu what is avi
[03:15] <ubotu> Discipulus: what are you talking about?
[03:16] <Davidleeroth> aftertaf, xmms plays the file but nothing is audible
[03:16] <Bluemat> Is it possible to actually clear fully the events in firestarter?
[03:16] <__2> !kernel
[03:16] <Stormx2> Hey
[03:16] <Stormx2> Ehm, is there a nice script to auto-mount windows partitions?
[03:17] <Stormx2> I had one for hoary but I lost it
[03:17] <Stormx2> ^_^
[03:17] <Davidleeroth> Stormx2, just edit /etc/fstab
[03:17] <__2> Stormsx2 My 5.10 installation have mounted all my ntfs partitions automaticly upon installation
[03:17] <Stormx2> mhmm
[03:17] <__2> in /media
[03:17] <Davidleeroth> and it will mount when you start up
[03:17] <Stormx2> but its a bit of a pain
[03:17] <Stormx2> Well it didn't for me
[03:17] <Davidleeroth> /media/hda1/
[03:17] <aftertaf> Davidleeroth:  you might have a speaker proble then.... cable plugged in right place?
[03:17] <eyequeue> has anyone substituted an alternate java in order to get rid of cpu being pegged up at 99% continuously?
[03:18] <Davidleeroth> /dev/hda1 /media/hda1/ ntfs
[03:18] <Davidleeroth> add that line
[03:18] <aftertaf> !tell Stormx2 about mount
[03:18] <_jason> Is there a way to check if a package is from multiverse or universe in Synaptic? (or with apt-get if there is now way in Synaptic)
[03:18] <aftertaf> !tell Stormx2 about windowsdrives
[03:18] <Davidleeroth> aftertaf, its a notebook, the speakers are attached
[03:18] <Davidleeroth> they arent external
[03:18] <Stormx2> Cheers.
[03:18] <aftertaf> _jason:  apt-cache show
[03:18] <Stormx2> ^_^I just had a nice script which you could run which did it all automaticly.
[03:18] <Stormx2> Nevermind
[03:18] <aftertaf> Davidleeroth:  ok... that wasnt visible from where i am.... :P
[03:19] <aftertaf> Stormx2:  check ubotus messages
[03:19] <__2> how I can compile th ekernel using the current configuration (used to compile the default kernel that come with ubuntu) ?
[03:19] <aftertaf> __2:  copy the config file in /boot/
[03:19] <__2> oh thank you :)
[03:19] <aftertaf> ;)
[03:19] <ndsidfajkdf> Can Ubuntu change your DVD drive firmware during the installation process? After trying to install Ubuntu I couldn't access my DVD drive anymore even during the boot phase.
[03:19] <ndsidfajkdf> z71v
[03:19] <ndsidfajkdf> ASUS DVD 90-N9Q1G1000
[03:19] <__2> what is the /usr/src/linux-patch directory ?
[03:19] <ndsidfajkdf> Can Ubuntu change your DVD drive firmware during the installation process? After trying to install Ubuntu I couldn't access my DVD drive anymore even during the boot phase.
[03:19] <ndsidfajkdf> z71v
[03:19] <ndsidfajkdf> ASUS DVD 90-N9Q1G1000
[03:20] <Davidleeroth> aftertaf, what no?
[03:20] <Bluemat> aftertaf, Ive also noticed in my events log in firestarter I get alot of activity from Freenode at regular intervals..
[03:20] <__2> linux-patches directly
[03:20] <Davidleeroth> any solution?
[03:20] <__2> directory
[03:20] <Bluemat> aftertaf, even when Im not on freenode
[03:20] <aftertaf> Bluemat:  thats irc, probly normal....
[03:20] <aftertaf> Bluemat:  then again, less normal ;) hmmm
[03:20] <Bluemat> aftertaf, Even when Im not on..?
[03:20] <aftertaf> Davidleeroth:  no hardware muting or bios turning off sth?
[03:21] <Davidleeroth> no
[03:21] <aftertaf> ndsidfajkdf:  dont do that again please
[03:21] <Davidleeroth> it works fine in windows
[03:21] <aftertaf> Davidleeroth:  buggered if i know then.....
[03:21] <Bluemat> aftertaf, thats the IP http://82.96.96.3/
[03:21] <B|4ckm0r3> anyone could help me with the USPLASH installation?
[03:21] <Stormx2> guys the winmac_fstab script managed to fuck up.
[03:22] <boobaa> how should I start sk98lin module to have it working?
[03:22] <B|4ckm0r3> sorry UPOWER
[03:22] <Stormx2> !pastebin
[03:22] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:23] <Davidleeroth> does anyone have any idea about my sound prob if you dont aftertaf?
[03:24] <Stormx2> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3557 - thats what winmac_fstab returned
[03:24] <thompa> !acpi
[03:24] <ubotu> thompa: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:24] <Stormx2> I can read the partitions fine, it is just reporting their size incorrectly.
[03:25] <Stormx2> uhg
[03:25] <Stormx2> and now this is gonna be a pain getting it to read em correctly.
[03:25] <thompa> whats a good acpi utility?
[03:25] <thompa> I need to set lid close option to "no effect"
[03:27] <thompa> anybody monitoring acpi?
[03:27] <thompa> or is it in the hands of god
[03:27] <gand> thanks, bye
[03:27] <Stormx2> Hmm, I think i can fix it ^_^
[03:28] <_jason> aftertaf:  thanks
[03:28] <Stormx2> There. Time for a reboot.
[03:29] <Davidleeroth> can anyone help me with a sound problem?
[03:30] <thompa> Davidleeroth: whats going on?
[03:30] <Davidleeroth> thompa, my sound appears to work, but no sound comes out
[03:31] <Davidleeroth> i have tested it, and there are no errors besides sound not emitting
[03:31] <thompa> Davidleeroth: have you run alsamixer?
[03:31] <boobaa> grr
[03:31] <Davidleeroth> yes
[03:31] <Davidleeroth> thompa, yes
[03:31] <boobaa> is that possible that ubuntu/debian ships a so old kernel that is unable to drive my nic properly?
[03:32] <thompa> Davidleeroth: what kind of sound card is it?
[03:32] <Davidleeroth> ATI IXP AC97
[03:32] <Davidleeroth> built in notebook
[03:32] <tz> i do not think so
[03:32] <tz> i have a question
[03:32] <Davidleeroth> ubuntu 5.04 did not recognize my nic, but breezy did, so i am verrrry happy :)
[03:32] <tz> my azureus is not working
[03:32] <Davidleeroth> thompa, it is an ATI IXP AC97
[03:32] <sambagirl> morning
[03:33] <boobaa> Davidleeroth: lucky you
[03:33] <sambagirl> where do you add network printer?
[03:33] <Davidleeroth> and its an obscure nic also boobaa
[03:33] <thompa> Davidleeroth: in alsamixer is front sound up?
[03:33] <Davidleeroth> now i just need sound to work
[03:33] <Davidleeroth> yes thompa
[03:33] <thompa> Davidleeroth: sorry ive got a flying touchpad and windwos open on random
[03:34] <Davidleeroth> thats ok
[03:34] <Davidleeroth> my keyboard is erratic in KDE
[03:34] <Davidleeroth> i hate it anyway
[03:34] <thompa> Davidleeroth: did you try playing acd?
[03:34] <sambagirl> what means The Cups server cannot be contacted?
[03:34] <Davidleeroth> thompa, what is acd?
[03:34] <thompa> sorry a cd
[03:34] <Davidleeroth> yes
[03:35] <Davidleeroth> everything looks like it works
[03:35] <Davidleeroth> but no sound emit
[03:35] <thompa> ok
[03:35] <Davidleeroth> i even tried cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[03:35] <Davidleeroth> nothing...
[03:35] <Davidleeroth> is it a driver problem?
[03:36] <lukas> what is an alternative for KDiskFree for gnome?
[03:36] <sambagirl> what means The Cups server cannot be contacted?
[03:36] <cosimo321> Hello All
[03:36] <sambagirl> hi
[03:36] <thompa> sorry im trying to look something up
[03:36] <Davidleeroth> ok
[03:37] <thompa> if i move my curser over something i get open and closing windows
[03:37] <sambagirl> why i cannot add a printer?
[03:37] <cosimo321>  I want to be able to change permissions,ie..read/write/execute,for a folder ans all folders and elements within that folder
[03:37] <thompa> external mouse is worse
[03:37] <cosimo321> I want to do this globally
[03:37] <Davidleeroth> lol
[03:37] <thompa> im about to throw this laptop against the wall
[03:37] <sambagirl> i'lll ask my ubuntu question in linux i guess
[03:37] <phoenix_> a
[03:37] <sambagirl> bye
[03:38] <antisocialboris> wht does apt-get update ignore/fail with everything?
[03:38] <thompa> Davidleeroth: i dont know off top of my head
[03:38] <thompa> sorry
[03:38] <cosimo321> Is there a way to globally chnge permissions for a folder and ALL of it's contents including other folders and elements
[03:39] <Davidleeroth> does anyone else know about sound? I have a major prob
[03:39] <cosimo321> what is the sound problme maybe i can help
[03:39] <Stormx2> remind me of the wizard to reconfigure xorg?
[03:40] <Davidleeroth> my sound looks like its working, but no sound comes out. i have an ATI IXP AC97 built into a notebook Gateway 7510GX
[03:40] <sexcopter8001m> hi, i think i've royally shafted my sound setup (my bad). if i run that xorg reconfig thing, will that set it back to how it was straight after install? what's the exact command again?
[03:40] <mjr> Stormx2, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:40] <jconcepcion> is there any way to speed up evolution?
[03:40] <mjr> sexcopter8001m, xorg has nothing to do with sound
[03:40] <cosimo321> I assume everything in bios is set up correctly
[03:40] <sambagirl> anyone see me?
[03:40] <dorto> no
[03:40] <mjr> sambagirl, yes, we can see you (no, I don't know about cups)
[03:41] <cosimo321> no but we read you
[03:41] <Davidleeroth> cosimo321, it works in windows... what should it say in BIOS
[03:41] <sexcopter8001m> mjr, isn't it that command that detects hardware, or am i thinking of something else?
[03:41] <tristan622ph> how do i install glade on my system? what is the name of the package in synaptic?
[03:41] <dorto> heh, that nick allowed herer?
[03:41] <sambagirl> grin
[03:41] <mjr> sexcopter8001m, something else
[03:41] <cosimo321> if it was set for windows it will be ok for ubuntu
[03:41] <sambagirl> well why i cannot add a printer?
[03:41] <cosimo321> do you have all the libs for the sound
[03:41] <sambagirl> i must print
[03:41] <tristan622ph> is it just "glade" or "libglade" or what?
[03:41] <Davidleeroth> what all do i need cosimo?
[03:41] <cosimo321> what are you trying to listen to
[03:42] <sexcopter8001m> mjr or anyone else, is there a way to "restore" sound to how it was straight after i installed breezy?
[03:42] <Davidleeroth> ANYTHING at this point
[03:42] <thompa> Davidleeroth: in sytem: preferences; sound: do you have default sound card?
[03:42] <sambagirl> i go system > administration > printing and i get error
[03:42] <freemanen> if you get a white screen after installing ubuntu linux what could it depend on?
[03:42] <tristan622ph> how do i install glade on my system? what is the name of the package in synaptic?
[03:42] <Davidleeroth> yes thompa
[03:42] <cosimo321> well there is an easy way to get most of these libs go to browser and type ins "Automatix" find it and download it
[03:43] <cosimo321> if you are trying to watch dvds then there is more to it
[03:43] <Davidleeroth> it doesnt matter
[03:43] <sambagirl> so none of you ubuntu gurus can help me wiith the most basic function "setting up printer"
[03:43] <sambagirl> good grief
[03:43] <Davidleeroth> any sound is good right now
[03:43] <thompa> i got no sound either
[03:44] <cosimo321> find automatix it will ehlp you donwload most of the elements you need for sound
[03:44] <lukas> antisocialboris, hey, i think i know the answer to your question
[03:44] <Davidleeroth> cosimo, it says it is a printer driver
[03:44] <cosimo321> inclusding midi capability
[03:44] <Davidleeroth> ok
[03:44] <sambagirl> what means The Cups server cannot be contacted?
[03:44] <golanx> hi to everybody!
[03:44] <cosimo321> type ins ubuntu automatix
[03:44] <cosimo321> use the ubuntu before the automatix
[03:44] <antisocialboris> cool, what is it lukas?
[03:45] <lukas> antisocialboris, you have to take edit your apt-config with vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:45] <antisocialboris> ok, what do i need to edit in it?
[03:45] <cosimo321> hold on I will get the url
[03:45] <sambagirl> what means The Cups server cannot be contacted?
[03:45] <golanx> does anybody know if updating 5.10 now gets you openoffice 2.0 stable ?
[03:45] <lukas> antisocialboris, i upload my config
[03:45] <tristan622ph> what is a good xml editor in ubuntu?
[03:46] <cosimo321> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563   at the bottom right corner is the download
[03:46] <thompa> Davidleeroth: did you open volume control and make sure pc speaker is not red xed?
[03:46] <antisocialboris> ok, ive tried changing some stuff on people advice but nothing has worked so far
[03:46] <Davidleeroth> i am installing automatix now
[03:46] <Davidleeroth> i found it
[03:46] <sambagirl> what means The Cups server cannot be contacted?
[03:46] <Davidleeroth> h/o  a second
[03:46] <Davidleeroth> thompa, it is not a red x
[03:46] <thompa> !automatix
[03:46] <ubotu> thompa: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:46] <lukas> antisocialboris, this is my one, its with german servers but it will work for you too
[03:46] <lukas> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/VqTWSQ38.html
[03:46] <thompa> whats automatix?
[03:47] <cosimo321> check it out
[03:47] <sambagirl> 550 people in here and not 1 knows anythuing about printing issues?
[03:47] <antisocialboris> ok, ill give it a go
[03:47] <cosimo321> check it out    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[03:47] <Davidleeroth> i did
[03:47] <dorto> can someone point me to a link which could direct me how to install all the ubuntu packages at once and then use them to install the os on all the systems?
[03:47] <defcon8> sambagirl, 547
[03:47] <Davidleeroth> i found that site via google comiso
[03:47] <dorto> s/how to install/how to download
[03:47] <Davidleeroth> *cosimo
[03:47] <ndsidfajkdf> I have a short yes or no question about ubuntu im a newbie so this might sound stupid.
[03:47] <cosimo321> right
[03:47] <Davidleeroth> i installed it
[03:48] <Davidleeroth> but sound still doesnt work
[03:48] <Davidleeroth> i installed a few thingsd
[03:48] <Davidleeroth> but nothing :(
[03:48] <cosimo321> d now go into the menu under system tools
[03:48] <antisocialboris> does it make any difference that you have kubuntu?
[03:48] <ndsidfajkdf> Can Ubuntu change your DVD drive firmware during the installation process? After trying to install Ubuntu I couldn't access my DVD drive anymore even during the boot phase.
[03:48] <ndsidfajkdf> z71v
[03:48] <ndsidfajkdf> ASUS DVD 90-N9Q1G1000
[03:48] <Davidleeroth> i know
[03:48] <Davidleeroth> i started it and installed some things using it
[03:48] <sambagirl> so you dont print with ubuntu i see. ok
[03:48] <Davidleeroth> sambagirl, you also dont hear things
[03:48] <cosimo321> well you will get to  window with tick boxes
[03:49] <Davidleeroth> yes i did that
[03:49] <jowi> Breezy installer does not detect ISA network cards. loading the module (in my case 3c509) does not improve the installers ability. what to do?
[03:49] <Davidleeroth> i installed things!
[03:49] <Davidleeroth> lol
[03:49] <lukas> antisocialboris, i have ubuntu, dont mind the stuff in the first line
[03:49] <cosimo321> great when you're done reboot
[03:49] <Davidleeroth> ok
[03:49] <cosimo321> let me know
[03:49] <antisocialboris> ok, thats not gonna work for me, im stil on hoary
[03:49] <sambagirl> i discover that you have to change output setting to hear things on ubuntu davidleeroth
[03:49] <sambagirl> haha dave lee roth
[03:49] <lukas> ok, wait i give you another
[03:50] <lukas> antisocialboris, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories this should help you
[03:50] <Davidleeroth> brb
[03:50] <cosimo321> the debian menu offered with automatix comes in handy
[03:50] <antisocialboris> ill give it a look
[03:50] <sambagirl> can anyoine print in ubuntu? is printing a function you can do in ubuntu? or do i carry terminal with me to show people things in my purse?
[03:51] <jconcepcion> sambagirl, printing works fine
[03:51] <cosimo321> you can print
[03:51] <aftertaf> sambagirl:  printing happens.
[03:51] <sambagirl> i dont believe it
[03:51] <aftertaf> i use kde, i add a network printer, i print to it... ;)
[03:51] <ssn> hi
[03:51] <_jason> !tell sambagirl about printing
[03:52] <JohnFlux> I can't work out how to print in windows
[03:52] <JohnFlux> let alone linux ;)
[03:52] <JohnFlux> stupid horrible network printer :(
[03:52] <antisocialboris> i changed stuff to de.archive and it still fails to connect or ignores everything
[03:52] <Stormx2> ^_^ and yet you can use IRC?
[03:52] <cosimo321> who dude! windows is easy!
[03:52] <Stormx2> so is ubuntu
[03:52] <feugan3333> The openoffice2 from universe is actually openoffice1.9. I want my money back :-)
[03:52] <JohnFlux> cosimo321: you'd think so.  I tell it to print, and it times out and says it can't reach the printer.  no other computer in the office has this problem.
[03:52] <MenZa`> You want your money back?
[03:52] <JohnFlux> cosimo321: go figure.
[03:52] <feugan3333> Oh yes I forgot I did not pay any money
[03:52] <_jason> feugan3333:  done :D
[03:52] <MenZa`> lol
[03:53] <lukas> antisocialboris, than i dont know, thats all i found out
[03:53] <thom_> davidleeroth: did yo fix it?
[03:53] <cosimo321> something in your settings
[03:53] <antisocialboris> ok, most people ive spoken too solved their problems just bu changin the adresses a bit, but ive had no luck at all
[03:53] <cosimo321> I think davidleeroth is rebooting
[03:53] <thom_> oh
[03:53] <cosimo321> taking along time
[03:54] <thom_> ive got a serious issue
[03:54] <mkilgelmann> hi every one
[03:54] <cosimo321> he must have installed prelink
[03:54] <lukas> antisocialboris, thats what i did, too... i read that they ship the wrong config and I searched on google for a good one
[03:54] <feugan3333> anyways does anyone know if openoffice 1.9 supports the openoffice 2 document format?
[03:54] <MenZa`> dts
[03:54] <thom_> can someone help me theorize what maybe went wrong?
[03:54] <Stormx2> ok
[03:54] <cosimo321> what is the issue
[03:54] <antisocialboris> ive gotten the ones ive tried off the ubuntu site
[03:54] <thom_> great
[03:54] <DavidLeeRoth> OK back
[03:55] <Stormx2> what's the problem?
[03:55] <thom_> i installed kubuntu and xfce
[03:55] <Aven> hi
[03:55] <mkilgelmann> hi, could you tell me what happen with the mosilla-firefox 1.0.7m
[03:55] <DavidLeeRoth> my sound still does not work :(
[03:55] <Stormx2> and for all those who say breezy doesn't support mpeg3 by default, i say install XMMS ^_^
[03:55] <thom_> then after a few reboots went into ubuntu and all the menus and icons were gone
[03:55] <cosimo321> OK davidleeroth did you tick all of the boxes?
[03:55] <Aven> I'm trying to instsall chatzilla and I get this error:
[03:55] <Aven> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:55] <Aven>   mozilla-chatzilla: Depends: mozilla-browser (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:55] <antisocialboris> ie just used the one off their site and so far ive had 2 failings to connect and 3 ignored out of 5
[03:56] <mkilgelmann> parse error xml when i'm trying to download something
[03:56] <Stormx2> Aven: Install mozilla-browser
[03:56] <Aven> o
[03:56] <Stormx2> apt-get insall mozilla-browser
[03:56] <sambagirl> WHAT DOES The CUPS server could not be contacted. MEAN?
[03:56] <Stormx2> *install
[03:56] <cosimo321> david lee roth do you have the totem that came with ubuntu?
[03:56] <DavidLeeRoth> cosimo, not all of the boxes because there was a lot of crap that i did not want
[03:56] <Aven> storm: it already is installed
[03:56] <thom_> DavidLeeRoth: i just fixed my sound under volume control: file: change device
[03:56] <understorm> Bom dia...
[03:56] <DavidLeeRoth> yes i have totem
[03:56] <antisocialboris> :(
[03:57] <Stormx2> update
[03:57] <cosimo321> go to terminal and sudo ap-get install totem-xine
[03:57] <DavidLeeRoth> there are 2 devices there
[03:57] <understorm> good evening...
[03:57] <defcon8> hello
[03:57] <Stormx2> it needs 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2 when you have 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu1
[03:57] <antisocialboris> i have no idea what to do to solve this problem
[03:57] <cosimo321> this will replace the original gstreamer version and also include other codecs for you
[03:57] <thom_> change it
[03:57] <DavidLeeRoth> my IXP ATI AC97 and a conexant ID30
[03:57] <thom_> change it to the other one
[03:58] <DavidLeeRoth> ok
[03:58] <sambagirl> SEVANS OR bob2 here?
[03:58] <thom_> Storm2: any idea what could have happened?
[03:58] <DavidLeeRoth> i changed it, still nothing
[03:58] <thom_> Storm2: on reboot was no ubuntu background
[03:58] <sambagirl> 550 people here and nobody can print.
[03:58] <jowi> ISA network card 3c509b, not detected by Breezy installer. installer suggest firewire-ethernet even though no firewire exist in the machine.
[03:59] <thom_> DavidLeeRoth: are playback settings all up?
[03:59] <DavidLeeRoth> yes
[03:59] <cosimo321> go into alsa mixer make sure nothing you need is muted
[03:59] <DavidLeeRoth> nope all there
[03:59] <jowi> DavidLeeRoth: try in a terminal "killall esd"
[04:00] <DavidLeeRoth> i did it
[04:00] <defcon8> do fuser /dev/dsp
[04:00] <thom_> what?
[04:00] <titanium> what is it that i need to type after changing my sources.list?
[04:00] <defcon8> see which proc is using your snd device
[04:00] <sambagirl> WHAT DOES The CUPS server could not be contacted. MEAN?
[04:00] <DavidLeeRoth> root@ubuntu:/home/dlr# fuser /dev/dsp
[04:00] <DavidLeeRoth> root@ubuntu:/home/dlr#
[04:00] <DavidLeeRoth> no output?
[04:01] <thom_> Storm2:  you still there?
[04:01] <defcon8> then nothing is using it
[04:01] <johns^> sambagirl: exactly what it says I guess
[04:01] <defcon8> unmute alsa
[04:01] <jowi> sambagirl: that CUPS is not active? try "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart"
[04:01] <DavidLeeRoth> it isnt muted
[04:01] <defcon8> speakers on?
[04:01] <thom_> DavidLeeRoth: how are you testing sound?
[04:01] <DavidLeeRoth> yes it is a notebook
[04:02] <DavidLeeRoth> i am testing sound by going to flash sites, by playing music, by cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[04:02] <DavidLeeRoth> anything
[04:02] <defcon8> notenook volume turned up?
[04:02] <DavidLeeRoth> defcon8 yes, my settings work on win32
[04:02] <antisocialboris> all the apt0get archives cant be down, why am i having such problems?
[04:02] <thom_> DavidLeeRoth: is system sound working?
[04:02] <DavidLeeRoth> what is that?
[04:03] <thom_> DavidLeeRoth: double click volume control
[04:03] <cosimo321> do you get sound when you rebott
[04:03] <jowi> DavidLeeRoth: erhm, sometimes sound for flash doesn't work on a ubuntu install.... just so you know.
[04:03] <sambagirl> jowi stillcomes up with that error
[04:03] <DavidLeeRoth> my volume up/down on my laptop even works
[04:03] <DavidLeeRoth> but no sound
[04:03] <sambagirl> cups server cannot be contacted or something
[04:03] <thom_> DavidLeeRoth: clcik the mute unmute
[04:03] <DavidLeeRoth> thom, i double clicked it
[04:03] <jowi> sambagirl: did the restart of cups give any errors?
[04:03] <cosimo321> so you don't get the login sound either?
[04:03] <antisocialboris> could my uni server be screwing up me apt-get updating?
[04:03] <DavidLeeRoth> nope
[04:03] <sambagirl> no
[04:03] <thom_> DavidLeeRoth: should hear drumbeat
[04:03] <DavidLeeRoth> nope
[04:03] <jason^> does ubuntu have support for ipw2200 drivers?  i thought you had to install them manually...
[04:04] <sambagirl> i really really have to print :D
[04:04] <sambagirl> this is terrible
[04:04] <DavidLeeRoth> all this works on my other ubuntu box
[04:04] <DavidLeeRoth> sambagirl, do you have win32 on your other partition?
[04:04] <thom_> jason^: they are there
[04:04] <jowi> sambagirl: do you have any printers installed? have you been able to print previously?
[04:04] <mahangu_> jason^, it does, i use them
[04:04] <sambagirl> i just trying to add a printer
[04:04] <DavidLeeRoth> sambagirl, do you have win32 on your other partition?
[04:04] <sambagirl> no
[04:04] <cosimo321> what is your sound card again?
[04:04] <DavidLeeRoth> o any other OS?
[04:04] <jowi> !cups
[04:04] <ubotu> jowi: Syntax error in line 1
[04:05] <sambagirl> i re-installed ubuntu 3 times due to vearious problems with it.
[04:05] <thom_> jason^:  make sure you set your wireless as primary device
[04:05] <DavidLeeRoth> NO sound is ridiculous
[04:05] <jowi> !printing
[04:05] <ubotu> printing is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[04:05] <cosimo321> name of sound card again
[04:05] <DavidLeeRoth> !sound
[04:05] <ubotu> sound is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[04:05] <DavidLeeRoth> ATI IXP AC97
[04:05] <jowi> sambagirl: have you followed that link that ubotu just spat out?
[04:05] <cosimo321> hold on davidleeroth
[04:05] <DavidLeeRoth> ok
[04:06] <sambagirl> i thought maybe it was simple thing and someome give simple solution, see?
[04:06] <thom_> jason^:  ipw2200 is a little flakey but works if its the first device, also i disable eth1 for better results
[04:06] <sambagirl> now i must read book.
[04:06] <sambagirl> i be back sometime later.
[04:06] <DavidLeeRoth> the make and model of my computer is a gateway 7510GX
[04:06] <sambagirl> chao
[04:06] <jowi> sambagirl: the wiki already have guides that you are advised to use. all computers are different.
[04:07] <jowi> sambagirl: that will save you headaches and different advises that might not lead anyware. it is a timesaver.
[04:07] <jowi> !tell sambagirl about printing
[04:08] <dorto> someone please tell me how to install ubuntu on a machine without an internet connection
[04:08] <DavidLeeRoth> !tell davidleeroth about sound
[04:08] <jason^> thom_: which version comes with ubuntu?
[04:08] <jowi> dorto: put the install CD in and boot :)
[04:08] <thom_> jason^:  ill check for you
[04:09] <DavidLeeRoth> dorto, use an install cd
[04:09] <jason^> i searched for it on packages.ubuntu.org but didn't see a ipw2200 package :(
[04:09] <dorto> but there is only one install cd
[04:09] <thom_> its not latest
[04:09] <thom_> i think its -6
[04:09] <DavidLeeRoth> besides the point, but I installed mine via network install because I did not feel like downloading a 700MB iso at the time :-)
[04:09] <dorto> how to install more packages?
[04:09] <jason^> 1.0.6?
[04:09] <cosimo321> Davidleeroth, there are alot of entries on this particular sound card in the forums, some people have solved the issue I suggest you read them
[04:10] <DavidLeeRoth> cosimo, can you link me?
[04:10] <cosimo321> type in Ubuntu your sound card in the browser
[04:10] <DavidLeeRoth>  ok
[04:10] <dorto> can i download more .iso files and install additional packages from them?
[04:10] <jowi> dorto: copy the files to a cd. mount it on the network-disabled pc. "sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb" to install the files
[04:10] <cosimo321> just type ubuntu "your sond card" in your brouser
[04:10] <cosimo321> you will find alot of entries about this
[04:10] <risk-31> veo que aqu slo se escribe en english
[04:11] <thom_> ipw2100-source 1.1.0.1
[04:11] <dorto> jowi: copy what files to the cd?
[04:11] <jason^> thom_: how about ipw2200?
[04:11] <cosimo321> anyone know how to globally change permissions on a folder and al subsequent folders and files under that folder?
[04:11] <thom_> no dont see it
[04:11] <risk-31> hello, who in spanish
[04:11] <jowi> dorto: the files you want to install on the PC of course. you can also add the CD to /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:11] <thom_> jason^:  should be all the same
[04:11] <Stormx2> !es
[04:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:11] <jenda> I'd like to know this too: anyone know how to globally change permissions on a folder and al subsequent folders and files under that folder?
[04:12] <thom_> jason^:  ive tried other distros and they wont work with latest ipw2200
[04:12] <risk-31> gracias
[04:12] <dorto> jowi: where to download additional cd images from?
[04:12] <Stormx2> jenda: Yes. Recursive chmod, but i forget.
[04:12] <jowi> Breezy installer does not detect ISA network cards. loading the module (in my case 3c509) does not improve the installers ability. what to do?
[04:12] <dorto> cosimo321: use -R option
[04:12] <cosimo321> recursive chmod sounds gret but need step by step
[04:12] <dorto> chmod -R
[04:12] <Stormx2> terminal
[04:12] <corincole> if i have a .sql file, how can I inport it into phpmyadmin?
[04:13] <jowi> dorto: breezy install cd can be obtained from www.ubuntu.com
[04:13] <cosimo321> OK in terminal then the file location?
[04:13] <Stormx2> sudo chmod -R /whatever/director
[04:13] <dorto> isn't that just one cd?
[04:13] <dorto> what about more packages?
[04:13] <cosimo321> I will try that now be back
[04:13] <jowi> dorto, hang on
[04:13] <jowi> !+repos
[04:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[04:14] <tristan622ph> how how do i install xvid on linux?
[04:14] <jowi> dorto: check that out
[04:14] <cosimo321> too few arguments it says
[04:14] <dorto> jowi: don't i need a fast internet connection to install packages from there?
[04:15] <DavidLeeRoth> cosimo, i didnt find anythin
[04:15] <jowi> dorto: nope, you can download manually from the repos own sites.
[04:15] <jenda> Stormx2: thanks. Good enough I'll figure out the rest
[04:15] <dorto> jowi: what is the procedure to download?
[04:15] <cosimo321> whoa dude in your browser type "ubutnu ATI ixp ac97"
[04:15] <DavidLeeRoth> dude i know
[04:15] <jowi> dorto: just choose from the specific sites what you want and burn them on a cd.
[04:15] <corincole> anyone? if i have a .sql file, how can I inport it into phpmyadmin?
[04:15] <DavidLeeRoth> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ati+ixp+ac97+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search
[04:15] <jowi> dorto: what do you mean?
[04:16] <cosimo321> I found ten related articles and several who soved it I will try to find the url hold on
[04:16] <dorto> jowi: i need to to right-click and save each individual file?
[04:16] <jowi> dorto: yeah, that is the manual way
[04:16] <dorto> jowi: isn't there an image file or something like that?
[04:16] <cosimo321> here's one http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55332
[04:16] <dorto> jowi: .iso files or 700MB-800MB files?
[04:17] <jowi> dorto: you just said you did not want an image. i don't know if it exist for the repos. you must check the individual sites yourself.
[04:17] <cosimo321> hold on
[04:17] <dorto> no, images are find with me
[04:17] <dorto> s/find/fine
[04:17] <DavidLeeRoth> cosimo, no thread specified?
[04:18] <jowi> dorto: you must check yourself. i do not know since i never needed to do that.
[04:18] <dorto> so how do people normally install ubuntu on say 10 systems?
[04:18] <dorto> through internet on all of them?
[04:18] <cosimo321> here's another    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28867
[04:19] <jowi> dorto: they usually set up a fileserver that the individual computers fetch the files from
[04:19] <dorto> and what do they copy in the fileserver?
[04:19] <cosimo321> are you using google?
[04:19] <jowi> dorto: the packages from the install-cd and some other downloaded packages probably. maybe the wiki's got what you are looking for.
[04:20] <jowi> !wiki
[04:20] <dorto> k
[04:20] <DavidLeeRoth> that article was useless
[04:20] <DavidLeeRoth> it sais he fixed the sound, but his solution said he just used the drivers in ALA
[04:21] <DavidLeeRoth> I AM USING THE DRIVERS in alsa
[04:21] <cosimo321> davidleeroth use google and find all the entries several p eople have solved it
[04:21] <cosimo321> it doesn't matter if it was for hoary or not the solutions hould be the same
[04:21] <karen> HELP PLEASE!  i'd like to know how to adjust my printer coloring. I've changed the color and black cartridge and the coloring is still funky. Can anyone help please?
[04:21] <chic> heyy
[04:21] <chic> alguien habla espaol?
[04:21] <DavidLeeRoth> Soy un hablador.
[04:22] <chic> jejje ok
[04:22] <chic> de donde eres? davidleeroth
[04:22] <Bungo> I'm trying to copy a large amount of files from a ext3 partition to a fat32 partition, and I am getting a lot of errors in the process, but the only information is "invalid argument" following a "cannot create directory", for instance, which I presume is something to do with fat32 filename limitations. Is there something I can do to ensure that all files will be copied, even if their names are changed to fit fat32 rules?
[04:22] <DanglyBits> is there an easy way to get both 32 bit firefox and 32 bit flash working in Ubuntu x86_64 ?
[04:22] <DavidLeeRoth> Soy de Orlando, Florida (Estados Unidos)
[04:22] <chic> y hay hablan espaol? davidleeroth
[04:22] <DavidLeeRoth> Estoy aprendiendo el espanol
[04:22] <titanium> anyone use freenx? i have it installed but when i try to connect from my windows machine it says "Server not installed or nx access disabled." ???
[04:22] <chic> ah ok
[04:23] <chic> y q buscas x aqui davidleeroth
[04:23] <DavidLeeRoth> Tengo muchas problemas con mi tarjeta de sonido
[04:23] <chic> ahm , q le pasa?
[04:23] <DavidLeeRoth> lol morphix
[04:24] <sambagirl> lol
[04:24] <sambagirl> lol
[04:24] <chic> q edad tienes davidleeroth
[04:24] <sambagirl> atleast you printing davidleeroth
[04:24] <DavidLeeRoth> sambagirl, nope IM not
[04:24] <DavidLeeRoth> lol
[04:24] <sambagirl> i will never print
[04:24] <jenda_>  /msg nickserv link jenda jenda
[04:24] <DavidLeeRoth> thats not a big deal for me though
[04:24] <karen>  HELP PLEASE!  i'd like to know how to adjust my printer coloring. I've changed the color and black cartridge and the coloring is still funky. Can anyone help please?
[04:24] <jenda_> oops...
[04:25] <DavidLeeRoth> whatever I need to print, i just make a pdf and send it to my win32 computer
[04:25] <sambagirl> ahhhhh
[04:25] <erki> hi
[04:25] <sambagirl> but i get error saying cups not contacted
[04:25] <erki> can any1 help a noob? :D
[04:26] <johns^> sambagirl: printing from windows or from linux?
[04:26] <sambagirl> now i know what cups means
[04:26] <erki> how to save terminal, if i have changed xorg.conf???????
[04:26] <sambagirl> ubuntu
[04:26] <jowi> karen: define "funky". also is it an inkjet printer or laser?
[04:26] <sambagirl> undabo jack
[04:26] <defcon8> erki, roflmao
[04:26] <defcon8> save terminal?
[04:26] <Bergcube> sambagirl~  A-cups, B-cups, etc.....  ;-)
[04:26] <DavidLeeRoth> samba, cupsd = common unix printing service daemon
[04:26] <DavidLeeRoth> *server
[04:26] <johns^> sambagirl: printer connected to the same computer?
[04:26] <sambagirl> blahblahblah
[04:26] <erki> umm w8
[04:26] <sambagirl> no
[04:26] <sambagirl> it will not even doanythinbg
[04:26] <sambagirl> A CUP
[04:26] <chic> alguien vive en espaa?
[04:26] <sambagirl> stupido
[04:26] <erki> i need to save thet config file i changed in terminal
[04:26] <erki> xorg.conf
[04:27] <DavidLeeRoth> donde vives chic?
[04:27] <sambagirl> i think ubuntu braak my keyboard too
[04:27] <chic> en madrid
[04:27] <johns^> sambagirl: is the printer connected to a windows or linux pc
[04:27] <tombs> hi all
[04:27] <sambagirl> windows
[04:27] <DavidLeeRoth> Yo quiero visitar espana
[04:27] <Bergcube> erki~  Then you should have opened it from the terminal with sudo.   "sudo gedit NameOfFile"<ENTER>
[04:27] <johns^> ah, anything if you do a http://localhost:631 in firefox?
[04:27] <DavidLeeRoth> Hay muchas cosas para hacer en Madrid?
[04:27] <tim_> Hi all
[04:27] <P8ntKid> Ok, i followed the apt-get directions to upgrade to breezy from hoary on thsi page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes but it downloaded all the updates but it didnt install them.
[04:28] <nivek_> hu
[04:28] <erki> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:28] <sambagirl> who mea jonhs?
[04:28] <erki> not like that?
[04:28] <DavidLeeRoth> i will teach anyone here spanish if you guys can help me fix my stupid sound problem
[04:28] <DavidLeeRoth> and 10000 dollars
[04:28] <tim_> ive just installed ubuntu breezy badger on this laptop but can only get a resolution of 640x480 !!!! Anyone got any ideas of how I can change this ??
[04:28] <Stormx2> remind me how to reconfigure xorg
[04:28] <johns^> sambagirl: is cupsys running
[04:28] <Stormx2> I forget the command
[04:28] <jowi> erki: to save in nano you press ctrl-x
[04:28] <Bergcube> erki~  Yeah, that will work too!  Just exit nano and it'll save the file.  (I believe it'll ask if you wanna save before exiting.)
[04:29] <sambagirl> i did suid thing it restarted
[04:29] <thom_> tim_: what should it be?
[04:29] <DavidLeeRoth> i press ctrl-c, it asks to save, press y, then type file name to save as
[04:29] <erki> ok
[04:29] <erki> ill try
[04:29] <tim_> hi thom_   it should be 1024x768
[04:29] <erki> ty
[04:29] <chic> vente cuando quieras
[04:29] <jowi> erki: ctrl-x, not ctrl-c
[04:29] <P8ntKid> Ok, i followed the apt-get directions to upgrade to breezy from hoary on thsi page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes but it downloaded all the updates but it didnt install them.
[04:29] <chic> si, hay muchas cosas
[04:29] <thom_> tim_: whats the graphics card?
[04:30] <sambagirl>  sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[04:30] <tim_> build in, sis chipset !  :o(
[04:30] <DavidLeeRoth> eres de Espana?
[04:30] <sambagirl> did that
[04:30] <Stormx2> What is the command which starts the xorg reconfig wizard?
[04:30] <chic> si
[04:30] <chic> cuantos aos tienes?davidleeroth
[04:30] <johns^> sambagirl: and did yuo add the printer?
[04:30] <jowi> Stormx2: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:30] <johns^> and how?
[04:30] <DavidLeeRoth> 34
[04:30] <chic> ah
[04:30] <Stormx2> jowi: Thankyou
[04:30] <P8ntKid> Stormx2: sudo dpkg--reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:30] <DavidLeeRoth> no eres mexicana?
[04:31] <chic> yo?davidleeroth
[04:31] <Stormx2> !es
[04:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:31] <DavidLeeRoth> si
[04:31] <chic> no q va, xq lo dices?
[04:31] <P8ntKid> How do i see what version of ubuntu i have?
[04:31] <tim_> thom_  its a built in, sis chipset !  :o(
[04:31] <thom_> tim_: what do you get in screen resolution preferences?
[04:31] <[maven] > How do I recompile the restricted modules for a custom kernel?
[04:31] <jowi> P8ntKid: uname -a will give you the kernel version
[04:31] <sambagirl> it finally came up to add a printer! after 5 times i type restart cups
[04:31] <sambagirl> thanks everyone
[04:31] <chell> Hi. I just installed penguinplanet-racer (I've got "Breezy Badger"). It appears in the Games menu, but unfortunately it just doesn't start when I click on it
[04:32] <P8ntKid> jowi: I mean like how do i tell if its hoary or brezy?
[04:32] <thom_> tim_: system: preferences: screen resolution
[04:32] <tim_> thom_   all it shows me is 640x480 @ 60Hz   !   :(
[04:32] <jowi> P8ntKid: check if the links in /etc/apt/sources.list point to breezy or hoary
[04:32] <thom_> tim_: system: you cant change it there?
[04:33] <tim_> thom_   no, just gives me that one option, and no others
[04:33] <thom_> tim_: system: by clicking arrows
[04:33] <tim_> thom_   tried that
[04:33] <thom_> tim_: i would edit xorg.conf
[04:33] <chell> has anyone got an idea?
[04:33] <P8ntKid> jowi: No, i just recently tried to update from hoary to breezy. So i just changed them. And i wanna see if it actually worked. But im not sure becuase when i did the update. It downloaded all the packages but it didnt install them.
[04:33] <DavidLeeRoth> hablas ingles?
[04:33] <sambagirl> what is command to start samba so i can configured windows network printer please?
[04:33] <thom_> tim_: backup your xorg.conf file and add the mode lines
[04:34] <tim_> thom_   cool, thanx. I'll give that a go !
[04:34] <DavidLeeRoth> hablaste que David LEe ROTH es tu cantante favorito... y que eres mexicana
[04:34] <thom_> tim_: do you know how to do that
[04:34] <chic> muy poco
[04:34] <jowi> P8ntKid: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade : should have upgraded your system.
[04:34] <tim_> thom_    nope, but Im not afraid to poke about and try things :)
[04:34] <Belutz> it's time to play launchpad :-)
[04:34] <DavidLeeRoth> chic, didnt you say that DAvid LEe ROth is your favorite singer? Then you gave me a mexican handshake
[04:34] <P8ntKid> I know that. I did that. But all it did was downloaded the packages. It didnt install them. Andim trying to figure out why.
[04:35] <thom_> tim_: change directory to /etc/X11
[04:35] <joe_alf> i've installed breezy as server, and why is that apache not installed by default
[04:35] <chic> no se quien es ese cantante
[04:35] <jowi> P8ntKid: you can also open synaptic to see if you got any broken packages that hasnot been installed.
[04:35] <Bergcube> poco loco
[04:35] <tim_> thom_   got it !
[04:35] <DavidLeeRoth> :( Es el cantante mas chevere!
[04:35] <chic> sorry
[04:35] <chic> asi?
[04:35] <tim_> and now for the fun part !!!  ;o)
[04:36] <thom_> tim_: xorg.conf is the file
[04:36] <chic> es mexicano?
[04:36] <thom_> tim_: back it up first
[04:36] <chell> has anyone else had issues with planetpenguin-racer
[04:36] <DavidLeeRoth> no... pero Aprendio el espanol
[04:36] <ndsidfajkdf> Can Ubuntu change your DVD drive firmware during the installation process? After trying to install Ubuntu I couldn't access my DVD drive anymore even during the boot phase.
[04:36] <ndsidfajkdf> z71v
[04:36] <ndsidfajkdf> ASUS DVD 90-N9Q1G1000
[04:36] <chic> ahhh
[04:36] <thom_> tim_: cp xorg.conf xorg.conf-old or something
[04:36] <jowi> P8ntKid: unfortunatly, i did the breezy upgrade just a few days ago. Openoffice was broken and the install never finished until i totally removed openoffice from the system. unfortunatley, apt does not keep a log of what it is doing!!!
[04:36] <jowi> P8ntKid: took me awhile to find that out :-(
[04:36] <DavidLeeRoth> es Americano... es de indiana pero vivio en pasadena, california
[04:36] <Stormx2> Yay for breezy!
[04:37] <chic> ahmmm
[04:37] <DavidLeeRoth> breezy sucks, not blows
[04:37] <chic> oye y es verdad q en estados unidos se habla mucho espaol?
[04:37] <Stormx2> !es
[04:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:37] <P8ntKid> jowi: So what should i do?
[04:37] <thom_> tim_: then sudo vim xorg.conf
[04:37] <DavidLeeRoth> en muchos estados... florida, texas, california
[04:37] <egoleo_> breezy is great
[04:37] <egoleo_> fast
[04:37] <jowi> breezy has been alot rock solid since the upgrade was finished though...
[04:37] <tim_> thom_   just had a quick look, and all the display modes are for 1024x768 !!!!!!  AAAaaagh !
[04:37] <chic> ahh
[04:37] <Bergcube> DavidLeeRoth~  Corrallar:  There is no gravity; the earth sucks.
[04:37] <thom_> tim_: add the new lines
[04:38] <Stormx2> tim_: So add more resolution ^_^
[04:38] <dorto> can apps be installed in ubuntu from debian mirrors?
[04:38] <DavidLeeRoth> BERGCUBE, if your sound didnt work, youd think it sucks as well
[04:38] <jowi> P8ntKid: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and take note of the last errors.
[04:38] <egoleo_> yes
[04:38] <Stormx2> dorto: yea
[04:38] <egoleo_> i love breezy
[04:38] <Stormx2> Me to
[04:38] <egoleo_> than
[04:38] <Stormx2> <3
[04:38] <egoleo_> hoary
[04:38] <Stormx2> Its faster
[04:38] <egoleo_> more faster
[04:38] <egoleo_> yes
[04:38] <Stormx2> and just as sexy
[04:38] <egoleo_> very faster
[04:38] <chic> y hay mucho latinoamericano?
[04:38] <thom_> tim_: look where default screen is
[04:38] <P8ntKid> jowi:  Ok.
[04:38] <tim_> thom, ok
[04:38] <egoleo_> very sexy
[04:38] <jowi> chic: PLEASE /join #ubuntu-es
[04:38] <thom_> tim_: find what is default depth
[04:38] <ndsidfajkdf> Can Ubuntu change your DVD drive firmware during the installation process? After trying to install Ubuntu I couldn't access my DVD drive anymore even during the boot phase.
[04:38] <ndsidfajkdf> z71v
[04:38] <ndsidfajkdf> ASUS DVD 90-N9Q1G1000
[04:39] <chic> what jowi?
[04:39] <jowi> !es
[04:39] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:39] <hussam> can somebody help me with pppoeconf? why do I have run it in breezy everytime I reboot?
[04:39] <Stormx2> ACK
[04:39] <Stormx2> THE REFRESH RATE
[04:39] <Stormx2> IT BURNS
[04:39] <tim_> default depth = 24
[04:39] <Bergcube> DavidLeeRoth~  I've given up Ubuntu (and all other flavours of Linux) on my laptop.  My WLAN card is simply equipment non grata...  I can sympathize.  Even so it must be ok to be in a good mood.  N'est pas?
[04:39] <aeon17x> hussam: you don't, unless you didn't allow it to run at startup.
[04:39] <Stormx2> 55 Hz is BAAAD
[04:39] <P8ntKid> jowi: Ill be back in like 10 minuts.
[04:39] <DavidLeeRoth> pero, en muchos estados, muchas personas hablan espanol muy mal (los puertorriquenos usan palabras argotes)
[04:39] <jowi> ndsidfajkdf: not likely at all. but maybe the links to the dvd didn't get updated.
[04:39] <eythian> Ohh, Minix 3 is out. Goodbye to my Linux install! ;)
[04:39] <thom_> tim_: thats good, go to subsection for 24
[04:39] <tim_> thom_  then the mode for that display depth is 1024
[04:40] <aeon17x> Bergcube: go to the forums and post your hardware specs there, maybe someone can help you.
[04:40] <Strog> eythian: heheh
[04:40] <defcon8> anyone have skype?
[04:40] <defcon8> just need to test
[04:40] <highvoltage> how do i mount a samba drive from a terminal?
[04:40] <thom_> tim_:  change it or add
[04:40] <DavidLeeRoth> Bergcube, i have a wlan card built in my laptop, but i dont like wireless very much, so i dont care either way
[04:40] <Stormx2> I did when i was on windows
[04:40] <DavidLeeRoth> i never use it in win32
[04:40] <hussam>  aeon17x: I told pppoeconf to start the connection at boot but it won't
[04:40] <tim_> thom_   ill give it a go
[04:40] <thom_> tim_:  did you sudo first
[04:40] <highvoltage> i used to be able to use mount, but breezy doesn't seem to like it.
[04:40] <chic> pero como pueden hablar mal si es su propio idioma
[04:40] <tim_> yes
[04:40] <jowi> defcon8: in skype: dial "echo123" to test it :O)
[04:40] <Stormx2> uhg
[04:40] <DavidLeeRoth> I WANT SOUND!!!! QUIERO SONIDA!!!!!
[04:40] <Bergcube> aeon17x~  You mean like this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78310   Well, I used the mailing-list  but same difference.
[04:41] <zpao> I have a question for the room: can some body help me set up mp3 playback on ubuntu/kubuntu?
[04:41] <defcon8> hmm jowi good idea
[04:41] <Stormx2> is there ANY way to change th refresh rate to something above 55Hz on 1152*768
[04:41] <jowi> ubotu: tell zpao about mp3
[04:41] <aeon17x> hussam: weird... oh well, you can always make a launcher with the command "pon dsl-provider" and put it in the autostart section in Sessions.
[04:41] <thom_> tim_:  just change the Modes "1280x800"
[04:41] <DavidLeeRoth> chic, americanos hablan ingles mal porque usamos palabras argotes
[04:41] <Bluemat> How do I access ntfs partitions on my disk in breezy, It seems to automount unlike hoary - do i edit fstab/mtab??
[04:41] <chic> ahhh ok
[04:41] <thom_> tim_:  you know how to use vi editor
[04:42] <thom_> tim_: or gedit or something
[04:42] <defcon8> #vi does
[04:42] <aeon17x> Bergcube: bump it up until someone answers. Hopefully someone will see it in the future.
[04:42] <chic> y los latinos tb
[04:42] <chic> yo quiero ir a estados unidos
[04:42] <DavidLeeRoth> generalmente personas en los estados sures
[04:42] <DavidLeeRoth> :)
[04:42] <chic> es bonito tu pais?
[04:42] <DavidLeeRoth> Muy :)
[04:42] <Bluemat> How do I access ntfs partitions on my disk in breezy, It seems to automount unlike hoary - do i edit fstab/mtab??
[04:42] <Bergcube> aeon17x~  I guess I will.
[04:42] <Stormx2> Gotta restart X, brb
[04:42] <chic> moderno?
[04:42] <hussam> aeon17x: I want it at boot before ntpdate runs
[04:42] <jowi> DavidLeeRoth, chic: this is an english speaking channel for english speakers from all over the world. please stop.
[04:43] <tim_> thom_  doing it now
[04:43] <aeon17x> hussam: you can't, it launches itself after that. =/
[04:43] <DavidLeeRoth> http://www.ebudget.state.fl.us/images/ENV_Florida_Keys.jpg , isla de FLorida
[04:43] <thom_> tim_: ctrl alt backspace when done
[04:43] <thom_> tim_: the log on type startx
[04:43] <chic> jowi, why?
[04:43] <jowi> chic: i just told you why
[04:44] <DavidLeeRoth> I am not recieving a lot of english support
[04:44] <thom_> tim_: if it does nto work just put your old settings back
[04:44] <DavidLeeRoth> lol
[04:44] <DavidLeeRoth> risa en alto
[04:44] <tim_> thom_   thanx for all the help
[04:44] <tim_> thom_   I'll edit the file, do a restart and see what happens
[04:44] <Bluemat> How do I access ntfs partitions on my disk in breezy, It seems to automount unlike hoary - do i edit fstab/mtab??
[04:44] <thom_> i just edited mine for 24
[04:44] <tim_> bbl !
[04:44] <hussam> aeon17x: then why does pppoeconf tell me it will put some script to dial the connection at startup?
[04:44] <chic> david leeroth jowi quiere que nos vayamos del chat xq es un sitio para hablar ingles, no?
[04:45] <DavidLeeRoth> si
[04:45] <thom_> tim_: good luck
[04:45] <chic> esta tonto
[04:45] <thom_> tim_: let me know if it worked
[04:45] <DavidLeeRoth> lol
[04:45] <Stormx2> Im back
[04:45] <chic> pero a caso es su pagina de jowi?
[04:45] <Stormx2> and my eyes no longer hurt
[04:45] <Stormx2> !es
[04:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:46] <DavidLeeRoth> No puede ayudarme en ingles! Por que me quiere hablar en ingles?
[04:46] <chic> ahhh ok
[04:46] <chic> jowi?
[04:46] <Stormx2> Eck. You'll just have to ignore the spanish people. They are refusing to use #ubuntu-es
[04:46] <jowi> where are the ops!?
[04:46] <cosimo321> davidleeroth do you have the gnome alsa mixer gui
[04:47] <Zeep_> How is the package that contains the compiler collection called? Something with "base" if I remember correctly
[04:47] <DavidLeeRoth> cosimo, yes
[04:47] <DavidLeeRoth> Storm, I am not spanish
[04:47] <aeon17x> jowi: they're here, they just don't wear their status symbol since people bug them.
[04:47] <antisocialboris> hi, i just installed a 3d accelerator for my radeon 9600 from ati.com but when i tried to play ET it still gave me an error message saying i was running Mesa
[04:47] <cosimo321> did you check to see if the pc speaker is musted or not I have no idea if that will help just curious
[04:47] <DavidLeeRoth> I AM NOT SPANISH
[04:47] <DavidLeeRoth> yes it isnt muted
[04:47] <cosimo321> muted
[04:47] <chic> davidleeroth te gusta que haiga muchos latinos en tu pais?
[04:47] <DavidLeeRoth> No me importa porque no soy latino
[04:48] <OneSeventeen> Are there any security risks with posting my /etc/network/interfaces file online for troubleshooting?
[04:48] <aeon17x> hussam: it should, I don't know why it fails on ye.
[04:48] <jowi> aeon17x: increadibly annoying
[04:48] <pitti> OneSeventeen: only if you have put WEP keys into it
[04:48] <chic> ya, pero te juntas con ellos?
[04:48] <aeon17x> jowi: the ops are incredibly annoying?
[04:48] <OneSeventeen> nope, just IPs, network addresses, and the default stuff
[04:48] <DavidLeeRoth> A veces...
[04:48] <DavidLeeRoth> cosimo, nothing is muted
[04:48] <chic> ok
[04:48] <DavidLeeRoth> still no sound :(
[04:48] <chic> hay espaolas?
[04:48] <jowi> aeon17x: haha, nahh, the DavidLeeRoth / chic routine is :)
[04:49] <cosimo321> ok davidleeroth I have no answers for you I woul dhave to have the unit in front ofme sorry
[04:49] <DavidLeeRoth> No se...... problamente
[04:49] <hussam> aeon17x: can I manually make that script?
[04:49] <aeon17x> DavidLeeRoth: right click the volume control icon and look at the prefs. Screw with the settings accordingly.
[04:49] <aeon17x> hussam: yes, you can.
[04:49] <hussam> aeon17x: how?
[04:49] <DavidLeeRoth> aeon, i have screwed many settings today
[04:49] <chic> ok
[04:49] <DavidLeeRoth> nothing works
[04:49] <thom_> lol
[04:49] <thom_> sorry
[04:49] <DavidLeeRoth> what you are telling me isnt exactly science
[04:50] <thom_> just people telling you same thing over again
[04:50] <aeon17x> hussam: if you want to turn on your connection, just create a launcher (or batch script) with the command 'pon dsl-provider'.
[04:50] <aeon17x> hussam: then when you double-click on it, it'll activate your connection.
[04:51] <aeon17x> DavidLeeRoth: it isn't science, it's MAGIC!
[04:51] <P8ntKid> jowi: Ok. Well. Now its installing for some reason. But before it started installing it gave me all these perl errors :/
[04:51] <DavidLeeRoth> I will stop speaking spanish if you guys can help :) Voy a parar de hablar el espanol si pueden ayudarme
[04:51] <chic> ok david
[04:51] <DavidLeeRoth> lol
[04:52] <DavidLeeRoth> I really really really need sound
[04:52] <P8ntKid> jowi: And its still giving me lots of perl errors durring the install.
[04:52] <DavidLeeRoth> En espana, usas "ok"?
[04:52] <chic> si, usamos ok
[04:52] <chic> a veces o vale
[04:52] <DavidLeeRoth> Super!
[04:52] <chic> yes
[04:52] <DavidLeeRoth> mi palabra favorita
[04:52] <DavidLeeRoth> jejejajaja
[04:53] <chic> jejejje
[04:53] <jowi> DavidLeeRoth: i know your problem, and i have a solution for you. but i will not help you because you are not beeing very cooperative yourself.
[04:53] <chic> jowi because you do not like that we speak Spanish
[04:53] <DavidLeeRoth> jowi, what exactly do you want me to do
[04:53] <jowi> chic there is a spanish channel for you. use it
[04:53] <DavidLeeRoth> chucm he is right
[04:53] <DavidLeeRoth> there is a channel
[04:53] <chic> no quiero
[04:53] <jowi> oh well, bye all
[04:53] <Strog> There's also msg/query
[04:53] <aeon17x> jowi: can't blame though, the Spanish channel doesn't have a lot of participants.
[04:53] <Strog> ;-)
[04:54] <chic> jowi yo quiero hablar espaol aqui
[04:54] <DavidLeeRoth> i just think it is a bit ridiculous that they wont help me because i speak a language different that theres
[04:54] <Bergcube> DavidLeeRoth~  Possibly a lame idea, but at least something to try.  Boot it with the Knoppix live distro or the Live Ubuntu CD and see if it works there.  If so you might find out what's different and get it to work on your normal Ubuntu as well.  Knoppix is very good at hardware detection.
[04:54] <aio> i upgraded to breezy about a week ago on a dell inspiron 9300 laptop.  just plugged in a USB mouse for the first time.  it doesn't work.
[04:54] <aio> the mouse lights up for a few seconds, the nothing.
[04:54] <DavidLeeRoth> Bergcube, thats a great idea, but I do not have an ubuntu live cd... I may not even have a knoppix live cd
[04:55] <DavidLeeRoth> i actually installed ubuntu from the network using GRUBNT
[04:55] <aeon17x> DavidLeeRoth: we can't help you because we can't understand half of what you're saying.
[04:55] <aio> i googled and searched the forums, but didn't find anything conclusive.
[04:55] <DavidLeeRoth> aeon, you couldnt help when i asked it in english
[04:55] <thom_> DavidLeeRoth: a little bit of everything is healthy
[04:55] <aeon17x> DavidLeeRoth: I tried to, you said it didn't work.
[04:56] <DavidLeeRoth> big deal, you told me to unmute something.... I never thought of that b4 :)
[04:56] <aio> can anyone point me to a doc or something that will help me troubleshoot this?
[04:56] <Bergcube> DavidLeeRoth~  The latest Knoppix live DVD has been included in several linux mags lately.  It might not be further away than your nearest Gap or what-have-you kiosk newsstand or chainstore.
[04:56] <aeon17x> DavidLeeRoth: just wondering... does your volume control have an option for OSS mixer?
[04:56] <DavidLeeRoth> yes aeon
[04:56] <Bluemat> Guys how can I change the permissions on my disks so a normal user can browse ntfs partitions and browse/write fat32 partitions?
[04:56] <Danny|> What was the command to check network status again?
[04:56] <DavidLeeRoth> Bergcube, i do have that dvd burned
[04:56] <OneSeventeen> what is the "network" field in my /etc/network/interfaces referring to?   It is currently set to the IP of my DNS server, is this correct?
[04:56] <aeon17x> aio: what kind of USB mouse is it?
[04:56] <DavidLeeRoth> but sound does not work on it
[04:57] <DavidLeeRoth> aeon, there is an oss mixer
[04:57] <aio> aeon17x it's a microsoft optical mouse (explorer 4.0 is what the bottom of the mouse says)
[04:57] <aeon17x> Danny|: I think it's ifconfig.
[04:57] <aio> aeon17x it worked fine in hoary...
[04:57] <Bluemat> Guys how can I change the permissions on my disks so a normal user can browse ntfs partitions and browse/write fat32 partitions?
[04:57] <Danny|> aeon17x, cheers
[04:58] <corincole> can anyone tell me what to write in terminal to change phpmyadmin root password?
[04:58] <Bergcube> DavidLeeRoth~  Then I have nothing sensible to suggest right now.  :-(  Well, you can always put on Pink Floyd on the stereo, but that's more like an universal advice for a better life.
[04:58] <Breaks> quick question, could someone remind me on how i check if dma is enabled on my devices please?
[04:58] <DavidLeeRoth> Bergcube, pink floyd sucks
[04:58] <DavidLeeRoth> Van Halen all the way
[04:58] <aeon17x> aio: this is a stupid idea, but try plugging to a different USB socket. Maybe it'll get detected properly next time you reboot.
[04:58] <aio> aeon17x did that already - not stupid at all....
[04:58] <DavidLeeRoth> i am a little biased though because I was in it :)
[04:59] <chic> heyyyyy
[04:59] <DavidLeeRoth> heyyyyy
[04:59] <Bergcube> DavidLeeRoth~  Then you simply haven't been enlightened yet.  I forgive you, for you know not what you're saying.  :-D  :-D  :-D
[04:59] <DavidLeeRoth> Metallica, Iron maiden is where its at
[04:59] <corincole> anyone?  can anyone tell me what to write in terminal to change phpmyadmin root password?  please :)
[04:59] <DavidLeeRoth> yes
[04:59] <DavidLeeRoth> corincole, log in as root
[04:59] <aeon17x> corincole: sudo passwd root?
[04:59] <DavidLeeRoth> su <username>
[04:59] <DavidLeeRoth> passwd
[05:00] <DavidLeeRoth> enter password, verify
[05:00] <aio> oh - weird.  now when i plug in my mp3 player, it doesn't get auto recognized....
[05:00] <chic> q haces daviddd
[05:00] <Bluemat> corincole, its mysql proot password you want to change, not phpmyadmins
[05:00] <Breaks> anyone?
[05:00] <corincole> ok bluemat, so how?
[05:00] <corincole> :)
[05:00] <aeon17x> !dma
[05:00] <Bluemat> corincole, mysql.com ;-)
[05:00] <aio> and i can see that my system CPU usage is pegged.
[05:00] <corincole> :'(
[05:00] <corincole> ok
[05:00] <aeon17x> !tell breaks about dma
[05:00] <Bluemat> !mysql
[05:00] <aio> and lsusb won't respond....
[05:00] <ubotu> [lamp]  Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:01] <aio> actually, cpu wait is taking all it can....
[05:01] <aeon17x> aio, it seems you have a lot of USB issues.
[05:02] <aio> aeon17x hmmm....this sucks.
[05:02] <Breaks> thankyou aeon17x :)
[05:02] <aio> aeon17x i usually don't use a mouse, but i needed to do a little cad work, so a mouse it better for that....
[05:02] <aio> this is freaky....
[05:02] <Cesarin> that was a hell of a ride...
[05:04] <chic> jowi se fue?
[05:04] <alakhia> hi, could I please request help on an app that doesn't work after I upgraded to Breezy?
[05:05] <transgress> http://dnsbl.njabl.org/cgi-bin/lookup.cgi?query=24.181.94.77  can anyone tell me the accuracy of this?
[05:05] <aeon17x> alakhia: what is it?
[05:06] <alakhia> aeon17x: I use tarantella to connect to work machines from home
[05:06] <alakhia> aeon17x: After I upgraded, I get locale and translation table syntax errors
[05:06] <aeon17x> alakhia: hmm... I have no idea. =\
[05:06] <alakhia> aeon17x: The tarantella gui shows up but my keyboard doesn't work anymore
[05:07] <hengx> how come I can't start shell scripts from the gnome menu? like starting a program like IntelliJ IDEA via a script /usr/local/idea/bin/idea.sh
[05:07] <sproingie> which locale?  do you have the locales installed?
[05:07] <alakhia> aeon17x: yes, I even ran dpkg-reconfigure on locales
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_US.UTF-8... done
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_AU.UTF-8... done
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_BW.UTF-8... done
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_CA.UTF-8... done
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_DK.UTF-8... done
[05:08] <sproingie> yeah yeah
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_GB.UTF-8... done
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_HK.UTF-8... done
[05:08] <jbroome>  /care
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_IE.UTF-8... done
[05:08] <hengx> JDK_HOME and more that idea.sh needs to know about are defined in my .zshrc
[05:08] <sproingie> we don't need to see all your damn output
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_IN.UTF-8... done
[05:08] <jbroome> dude, we get it
[05:08] <sproingie> call tarantella support
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_NZ.UTF-8... done
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_PH.UTF-8... done
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_SG.UTF-8... done
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_ZA.UTF-8... done
[05:08] <jbroome> someone kick him
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_ZW.UTF-8... done
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_GB.ISO-8859-1... done
[05:08] <alakhia>   en_US.ISO-8859-1... done
[05:08] <alakhia> aeon17x: I installed all these locales:
[05:08] <alakhia> aeon17x: er, sorry
[05:09] <alakhia> aeon17x: sorry, i didn't realize it would be sent like that
[05:09] <cmug> flooding flooding flooding herkkuja ruokapytn <3
[05:09] <bedi> can someone send me a original /etc/apache2 ?
[05:09] <alakhia> thought it would be just one message
[05:09] <hengx> someone?
[05:09] <DavidLeeRoth> i need help with SOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:09] <bedi> :P
[05:09] <sproingie> alakhia: it's possibly a glibc incompatbility.  only tarantella support would know for sure
[05:09] <Stormx2> Whats the problem...
[05:10] <alakhia> sproingie: hmm, well, thought I would run it by you guys first
[05:10] <bedi> hengx: can you send me it, plz?
[05:10] <hengx> bedi what should I send you?
[05:10] <bedi> hengx: /etc/apache2
[05:10] <alakhia> sproingie: searching on internet only points me to hummingbird having similar issues
[05:11] <sproingie> alakhia: syntax errors sounds like formats changed, maybe extra crud in the files that tarantella can't deal with
[05:11] <hengx> bedi why? that's not related to my problem
[05:11] <alakhia> sproingie: and they refer XKEYSYMDB file that needs to be set correctly
[05:11] <sproingie> alakhia: that sounds like it could be related ... try it
[05:11] <bedi> hengx: tkz ...
[05:12] <sproingie> exceed's pretty different from tarantella, but maybe it's the same prob
[05:12] <alakhia> sproingie: but the help is specific to hummingbird. Basically telling hummingbird on where to find that file.
[05:12] <alakhia> sproingie; also, X doesn't seem to have that file. Or atleast not on my system
[05:12] <hengx> bedi, but I don't have that file
[05:12] <sproingie> alakhia: perhaps tarantella has a setting that looks for that file too.  a lot of stuff in X moved around between breezy and hoary
[05:13] <alakhia> sproingie: but i can't find the file myself
[05:13] <amarock> (k)ubuntu breezy takes longer to boot up & shut down than hoary...aint that right?
[05:13] <sproingie> locate -i xkeysymdb
[05:14] <sproingie> amarock: i'm finding that to be the case, yes
[05:14] <Loevborg> a.
[05:14] <sproingie> in fact i find windows boots faster now, and i don't even run anything significant
[05:14] <Loevborg> does anyone know if locate is used in any way? updatedb seems to immensly slow down my laptop!
[05:15] <Stormx2> Loevborg: It is
[05:15] <Stormx2> Loevborg: Its being damned slow at the moment
[05:15] <Loevborg> Stormx2, what for?
[05:15] <Stormx2> Lots of people updating I guess
[05:15] <Loevborg> Stormx2, ah I'm talking about something else.
[05:16] <Toma-> is there a way to suggest to get a certain package in the repos updated?
[05:16] <tim_> thom_     it worked, well, almost
[05:16] <sproingie> Loevborg: i don't think anything system critical uses locate.  i've let it get stale for months with no ill effect
[05:16] <Loevborg> Stormx2, "man updatedb"
[05:16] <thompa> tim_:what happened
[05:16] <Loevborg> sproingie, that's what I wanted to hear
[05:16] <thompa> tim_: im thom
[05:16] <Loevborg> sproingie, any elegant way to deactivate?
[05:16] <sproingie> Loevborg: me personally, i use locate all the time, but i have a pretty zippy drive
[05:17] <tim_> thom_   the problem was that I had another monitor connected, so when I disconnected my secondary monitor, I got all the resolutions I needed !
[05:17] <Loevborg> sproingie, update-rc.d is not elegant
[05:17] <sproingie> Loevborg: if it's running unbidden, it's probably a cron job.  just comment it out
[05:17] <tim_> thom_   at least not my pc doesnt look like  'My First PC'   :o)
[05:17] <tim_> thom_ funny that is doesnt like two monitors though !
[05:17] <sproingie> Loevborg: i personally never use update-rc.d, i just fiddle with the dirs directly
[05:17] <thompa> tim_: oh, there are sections for dual montor in x
[05:18] <tim_> thom_    hmmm....thats a case of RTFM then !
[05:18] <thompa> tim_: i wish my mosue was not so jumpy
[05:18] <ProN00b> can i somehow install apt-get manually on a random linux box and then apt-get to ubuntu ?
[05:18] <rem_> hey i'm reinstalling, whats the name again of the plugin for firefox to play avi-mpeg etc on websites
[05:18] <rem_> ?
[05:18] <Loevborg> sproingie, that's even less appealing :)
[05:18] <tim_> thom_   what mouse are you using ?  Im using a generic wheely mouse and it is fine here !
[05:18] <thompa> tim_: notebook
[05:19] <sproingie> ProN00b: sort of, with debbootstrap. it's not as simple as an upgrade tho
[05:19] <thompa> tim_: i tried an optical mouse but its worse
[05:19] <amarock> rem_: mozilla-mplayer i think....
[05:19] <thompa> tim_: i may get a plain usb mouse
[05:19] <tim_> thom_   thats what Im using, plain usb
[05:19] <sproingie> Loevborg: i doubt it's run from an init script, it's possibly a cron job
[05:19] <prower> Hello everyone :> I've been getting an error in Breezy lately when I'm using screen...occasionally after a few times of use, when I start it up it states that it can't write to /var/run/utmp, and the message doesn't go away until rebooting :/ Anyone know what that might be caused by?
[05:19] <tim_> thom_   I pinched it from an old Dell we had laying about
[05:20] <rem_> mplayer yeah..thanx
[05:20] <thompa> tim_: yep,
[05:20] <Loevborg> sproingie, I'll need to put "exit 0" on top of /etc/cron.daily/*locate then, which is hackish as hell
[05:20] <thompa> tim_: good luck and tak care
[05:20] <Loevborg> oh well, it's a hacker's world..
[05:20] <sproingie> Loevborg: or just chmod it -x
[05:20] <tim_> thom_   well, thankyou for your help. It is much appreciated !
[05:20] <Loevborg> sproingie, ah that sounds more like it!
[05:20] <tim_> thom_  bye for now, and good luck with your mouse !
[05:21] <St^Anger^19m> you're all hackers?? 0_0
[05:21] <Stormx2> 1337 h4x0rz to be precise
[05:21] <abarbaccia> hey all - i have a new case + MB - the fan thats plugged into the system fan headers seems to be pretty loud.  are there any utils to drop the voltage on it?
[05:21] <sproingie> prower: wild guess, but is your /var partition full?
[05:22] <Loevborg> St^Anger^19m, there was a time when we were just ordinary commoners - just like you.
[05:22] <St^Anger^19m> Loevborg, yes and i'm still getting used to gnome :S
[05:22] <pad03> hey
[05:23] <prower> sproingie: Not too sure, how would I be able to check?
[05:23] <Loevborg> prower, "df -h"
[05:23] <St^Anger^19m> how "long" does it take to become a hacker?
[05:23] <Stormx2> Uh
[05:23] <St^Anger^19m> ie. knowing all the innards of a unix system
[05:23] <Loevborg> st.anger: about seven years
[05:23] <Stormx2> Therer are some guides out there to get started
[05:24] <Lutty> if i get this error -checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables", what package am i missing?
[05:24] <prower> Loveborg: Ahh, okay...thanks. /var isn't listed in the output of that command, that's probably because I didn't put it on a separate partition
[05:24] <joe_alf> OneSeventeen, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81182 i found your post have you got the solution yet
[05:24] <Loevborg> Lutty, build-essential ?
[05:24] <Lutty> i will check
[05:24] <Loevborg> prower, preciesely
[05:24] <Stormx2> And may I add, St. Anger is a bad album
[05:24] <St^Anger^19m> Loevborg: wow!!! so if i finish my Uni degree without actually being a hacker....its ok rite? :S
[05:24] <prower> Loevborg: I guess it can't be a matter of running out of space, then, the drive has plenty of that left :>
[05:24] <Sionide> St^Anger^19m, build your own distro and learn it that way
[05:25] <amarock> can someone plz recommend a good linux book for me?
[05:25] <sproingie> amarock: unix system administration
[05:25] <Loevborg> st.anger: sure you fortunately don't learn to be a hacker in college
[05:25] <Stormx2> amarock: Best way to go is stay in this channel, learn and experiment
[05:25] <BaronMerk> hello ppl
[05:25] <lhdc> t
[05:26] <sproingie> !tell amarock about books
[05:26] <Sionide> ubotu tell me about books
[05:26] <corincole> !tell corincole about books
[05:26] <Stormx2> School networks are level 1 :)
[05:26] <Sionide> coool
[05:26] <BaronMerk> Big question, anyone here tried VmWare player with the Ubuntu Guest?
[05:26] <St^Anger^19m> Stormx2 lolll
[05:26] <sproingie> i must say, debian's book suggestions page sucks mightily
[05:26] <Stormx2> No I'm serious.
[05:26] <Stormx2> ^_^
[05:26] <St^Anger^19m> yes i'm sure you are...
[05:26] <St^Anger^19m> :D
[05:27] <St^Anger^19m> it's my dream
[05:27] <St^Anger^19m> as in
[05:27] <sproingie> bureaucratic, cumbersome, and out of date.  wonder where i've heard that before
[05:27] <Stormx2> I framed my detention later
[05:27] <Stormx2> Letter
[05:27] <Bluemat> how do you get xmms to play mp3s?
[05:27] <DavidLeeRoth> lol
[05:27] <St^Anger^19m> !mp3
[05:27] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[05:27] <Stormx2> It plays them by default?
[05:27] <Stormx2> :-\
[05:27] <amarock> sproingie: u mean the oreilly book??
[05:27] <DavidLeeRoth> st anger metallica rocks
[05:27] <DavidLeeRoth> they rule
[05:27] <Stormx2> No
[05:28] <Stormx2> The album is rubbish
[05:28] <St^Anger^19m> DavidLeeRoth: yes i love them
[05:28] <DavidLeeRoth> yeah
[05:28] <Stormx2> Metallica is a good band, but St Anger is a rubbish album
[05:28] <St^Anger^19m> St Anger aint the best ok...but i like the title :D
[05:28] <lhdc> lol
[05:28] <lhdc> u like the title not the songs
[05:28] <Stormx2> Kinda lame
[05:28] <St^Anger^19m> songs are nobbad.....but i prefer the other albums!
[05:28] <sproingie> amarock: no, just the page that you're sent to from the factoid.  the ora book isn't bad, but i'm commenting on the style of the doc
[05:28] <dockane_> i followed a tutorial to install ati driver but there is no kernel-headers-2.6.12-8-k7.deb ... 2.6.12-98-k7 headers are available through apt-get: do i have to change ?
[05:28] <hengx> Why I can't start shell scripts from the Gnome menu?
[05:28] <Stormx2> Metallica is one of those bands who got steadily worse
[05:29] <DavidLeeRoth> i cant hear metallica through this stupid linux machine
[05:29] <Lutty> Loevborg---yup, build-essentials was was I needed
[05:29] <lhdc> most of today bands r the same
[05:29] <Stormx2> DavidLeeRoth: Why not?
[05:29] <St^Anger^19m> up to before St Anger...they were goodie :D
[05:29] <DavidLeeRoth> or megadeth, or van halen, or iron maiden, or shit...
[05:29] <Stormx2> DavidLeeRoth: Can you get sound at all?
[05:29] <sproingie> Stormx2: yah they're a "post-rehab" band now
[05:29] <DavidLeeRoth> stormx, nope :-(
[05:29] <Stormx2> Gay.
[05:29] <amarock> anyone knows diff between linear & non-linear video editor? anyone uses kino here?
[05:29] <Stormx2> !sound
[05:29] <ubotu> I heard sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:29] <DavidLeeRoth> i saw those
[05:30] <sproingie> !gay
[05:30] <ubotu> I heard gay is the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess
[05:30] <DavidLeeRoth> !lesbian
[05:30] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, DavidLeeRoth
[05:30] <DavidLeeRoth> lol
[05:30] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[05:30] <ubotu> :)
[05:30] <lhdc> lol
[05:30] <amarock> anyone uses opera here? what package did u use?
[05:30] <DavidLeeRoth> ubotu - An ancient African word meaning, Annoying script.
[05:30] <ubotu> DavidLeeRoth: I haven't a clue
[05:31] <chemisus> i just installed badger from hoary (clean wipe) and the repository it said on the help page to add doesnt work. which ones should i use?
[05:31] <snooo> how do you add xvideo support to X? I am using the fglrx driver with a ATI Radeon 9200 card
[05:31] <Stormx2> !repos
[05:31] <ubotu> hmm... sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[05:31] <chemisus> thanks!
[05:31] <ifvoid> hey guys
[05:31] <Stormx2> hey gall
[05:32] <ifvoid> does anyone know if there's already a breezy version of the compaq/hp laptop-tuned ubuntu cd?
[05:32] <snooo> is there something i need to add to xorg.conf?
[05:32] <Stormx2> !laptop
[05:32] <ubotu> laptop is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[05:32] <aio> ok - i rebooted (probably didn't have to, but i don't know which kernel module might have needed to be reloaded or which process might have needed to be restarted....)
[05:33] <aio> the mouse is now working just fine.
[05:33] <Stormx2> cool
[05:33] <aio> (this is from the problem of my usb mouse not working after upgrading to breezy)
[05:33] <aio> (when plugging the mouse in after gnome came up, not when the system comes up - haven't tried that)
[05:34] <DavidLeeRoth> Metallica = Megadeth THEY ARE BOTH GOOD!
[05:34] <lhdc> try NightWish :D
[05:34] <ifvoid> Stormx2: yeah, I know, but there's a specially tuned hoary install cd
[05:34] <ifvoid> Stormx2: and I was wndering if that's already been updated to breezy
[05:35] <DavidLeeRoth> ubuntu needs to come with make, gcc, and g++
[05:35] <dooglus> DavidLeeRoth: no, it doesn't.
[05:35] <DavidLeeRoth> it needs to
[05:36] <Blake_Seven> Hi all
[05:36] <dooglus> DavidLeeRoth: why?
[05:36] <jbroome> is apt-get that hard to do?
[05:36] <DavidLeeRoth> no... but sometimes i need to compile a nic driver
[05:36] <DavidLeeRoth> when i dont have net access
[05:36] <Blake_Seven> I have installed proftp but it is refusing my connections can anyone help ?
[05:36] <dooglus> DavidLeeRoth: sometimes I need to play circus-linux.  When I do, I apt-get it.
[05:36] <NoWhereMan> hi all
[05:37] <paulproteus|lapt> DavidLeeRoth: apt-get install build-essential
[05:37] <DavidLeeRoth> I ALREADY HAVE GCC MAKE AND G++
[05:37] <DavidLeeRoth> stfu
[05:37] <jbroome> douche
[05:37] <DavidLeeRoth> i was just saying that ubuntu should come with it
[05:37] <ptolo> actually, apt-get is pretty hard to do in places where most people have only modem connectivity... maybe it'd be nice to package a superset of ubuntu + much wider selection, and put it on one dvd...
[05:37] <lhdc> what about glibc?
[05:37] <paulproteus|lapt> DavidLeeRoth: Oh, sorry.
[05:37] <paulproteus|lapt> ptolo: Ooh, that does sound like a cool idea.
[05:37] <NoWhereMan> How do I enable a mouse working on a laptop ? I think there's some kind of conflict with the touchpad
[05:38] <DavidLeeRoth> knoppix dvd 4.0 sucks though :(
[05:38] <paulproteus|lapt> NoWhereMan: By default, when you plug the mouse in, both should work.
[05:38] <DavidLeeRoth> i was disappointed
[05:38] <paulproteus|lapt> DavidLeeRoth: What did you dislike about it?
[05:38] <NoWhereMan> strange, it doesn't..
[05:38] <paulproteus|lapt> I haven't tried it, so I'm curious.
[05:38] <DavidLeeRoth> i just thought it was too much clutter
[05:39] <DavidLeeRoth> there were many of the same type of program
[05:39] <paulproteus|lapt> DavidLeeRoth: Ah, okay.  Yeah, KNOPPIX can feel very cluttered in that way.
[05:39] <abarbaccia> anybody know how to reduce the fan voltage from ubuntu?
[05:39] <jbroome> knoppix has too much and feels cluttered, but you want to add more to ubuntu?
[05:40] <paulproteus|lapt> jbroome: There are useful packages available for Ubuntu that have no equivalents, like QtParted.
[05:41] <DavidLeeRoth> qtparted should come with ubuntu
[05:41] <titanium> anyone use freenx? i have it installed but when i try to connect from my windows machine it says "Server not installed or nx access disabled." ???
[05:41] <paulproteus|lapt> titanium: Did you add the NX SSH key?
[05:41] <DavidLeeRoth> apt-get install windows_virus.exe
[05:41] <dockane_> why is there a kernel-header .deb for 2.6.12-9-k7 but not 2.6.12-8-k7 ?!
[05:42] <amarock> what video player do u all use? totem based on gstreamer?
[05:42] <DavidLeeRoth> i dont use any video player because my sound does not work
[05:42] <paulproteus|lapt> dockane_: I think that's because -8 is old, and was upgraded to -9 by release time.
[05:42] <paulproteus|lapt> amarock: totem based on xine here.
[05:43] <raul_> hola
[05:43] <HaroldJohnson_> hOLE
[05:43] <DavidLeeRoth> como esta usted hoy?
[05:43] <HaroldJohnson_> Hola
[05:43] <DavidLeeRoth> que desea usted?
[05:43] <dockane_> paulproteus|lapt: i installed both -9 image and headers but there is no menue.lst entry for it
[05:43] <amarock> is it true that vlc player plays win formats out of the box, without need for win32 codecs?
[05:43] <HaroldJohnson_> David Lee, make some music.  Let's hear that voice!
[05:43] <raul_> saludaros
[05:43] <raul_> jaja
[05:43] <HaroldJohnson_> Your voice rocks, Dave
[05:43] <Cesarin> que pedo gueyes
[05:43] <DavidLeeRoth> thx :)
[05:44] <alchemist_> amarock - mplayer here
[05:44] <raul_> soy nuevo en esto del linux
[05:44] <Cesarin> raul: este canal no es para espaol
[05:44] <Cesarin> hay otro canal especialmente para espaol de ubuntu
[05:44] <raul_> cual
[05:44] <Cesarin> creo que es #ubuntu_es
[05:44] <DavidLeeRoth> !es
[05:44] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:44] <Cesarin> ahita
[05:44] <raul_> y tu que haces a qui entonces
[05:44] <NoWhereMan> paulproteus|lapt I had to uninstall the synaptic driver under win to make it work both; maybe this has something to do with the problem?
[05:44] <paulproteus|lapt> NoWhereMan: Oh, weird.  Must be something special about your laptop.
[05:44] <paulproteus|lapt> NoWhereMan: Try Googling your laptop's model number on google.com/linux .
[05:45] <NoWhereMan> paulpro okay thanx
[05:45] <NoWhereMan> paulprotesu|lapt ok, thanx
[05:46] <DavidLeeRoth> does anyone love van halen and want to help me witha  sound issue?
[05:47] <mahangu> DavidLeeRoth, that is a very unusual request : fomer no, latter yes - shoot
[05:47] <gedas> sveiki, kaip pasileisti KDE ant Ubuntu?
[05:48] <DavidLeeRoth> ok, I have a sound issue.... its an ATI IXP AC97 but it is not emitting sound
[05:48] <joost> hello
[05:48] <kai> hi. does anyone have an idea what i could check why my (at) key doesn't function? the strange thing is that i use the same InputDevice section in my xorg.conf as on my fedora installation (which works fine there).
[05:48] <DavidLeeRoth> mahangu, did you read my above message?
[05:49] <joost> i (probably) got a very n00bish question
[05:49] <joost> i closed a system panel in my menu bar, but cant get it back
[05:49] <joost> cuz i dont know how
[05:49] <Cesarin> joost: was it the update one?
[05:49] <joost> it's the part where skype/amsn icons show up
[05:49] <mahangu> DavidLeeRoth, van halen no - sound issue yes
[05:49] <DanglyBits> is there an easy way to get both 32 bit firefox and 32 bit flash working in Ubuntu x86_64 ?
[05:49] <mahangu> joost, right click a panel
[05:50] <mahangu> add
[05:50] <mahangu> "Notification Area"
[05:50] <DavidLeeRoth> mahangu, can you help with the sound issue?
[05:50] <joost> hmm thanks, gonna try :)
[05:50] <HaroldJohnson_> I've just installed Ubuntu on my Mac, but the display is working properly.  Anyone have experience with this?
[05:50] <mahangu> Dave123, ill try
[05:50] <antisocialboris> hurrah, ive managed to get most of apt-get update working
[05:50] <mahangu> HaroldJohnson, have you tried the boot options?
[05:51] <Cesarin> lucky you that you have the display working properly !:D
[05:51] <HaroldJohnson_> mahangu, No, I haven't.  What are they?
[05:51] <HaroldJohnson_> mahangu, By the way, I'm using BootX on a Mac.
[05:52] <HaroldJohnson_> mahangu, That's how I have to boot.
[05:52] <mahangu> HaroldJohnson, im an x86 user
[05:52] <DavidLeeRoth> mahangu, can you help with the sound issue?
[05:52] <mahangu> but you should be able to set some xvga options
[05:52] <mahangu> DavidLeeRoth, I said ask
[05:52] <mahangu> dont ask to ask
[05:52] <Tokem> Does anyone knows if Ubuntu has dmriad suppor during install?
[05:52] <mahangu> just ask
[05:52] <Zukero> hi
[05:52] <joost> mahangu thanks a lot, got it working for skype now, will figure out amsn
[05:52] <DavidLeeRoth> mahangu, I have a ati ixp ac97 that is not emiiting sound... can you help? whats the prob?
[05:53] <mahangu> joost, amsn goes there too
[05:53] <mahangu> try a restart of it
[05:53] <HaroldJohnson_> mahangu, Perhaps that info. will still help me.  Where can I find info. on the display options?
[05:53] <mahangu> joost, why use amsn btw? why not gaim or kpoete?
[05:53] <joost> hmm does gaim or kpoete have msn connection?
[05:53] <mahangu> DavidLeeRoth, have you tried the different sound drivers
[05:53] <mahangu> DavidLeeRoth, what is the program?>
[05:53] <mahangu> joost, yes
[05:53] <joost> ok :)
[05:54] <DavidLeeRoth> mahangu, the driver is loaded, and nothing is on mute... but sound doesnt emit (on every program)
[05:54] <mahangu> HaroldJohnson, cant remember exact syntax now
[05:54] <HaroldJohnson_> mahangu, Okay, thanks.
[05:54] <amarock> can kopete log all messages as gaim?
[05:54] <mahangu> amarock, #kopete
[05:54] <mahangu> this is ubuntu support
[05:54] <mahangu> HaroldJohnson, try googling
[05:54] <amarock> mahangu: thx for u r help;)
[05:54] <mahangu> ubuntu ppc display
[05:55] <mahangu> DavidLeeRoth, mmm, try googling the soundcard make
[05:55] <mahangu> see if ubuntu recognizes it by default
[05:55] <Stormx2> How would I go about setting up a joystick?
[05:55] <joost> mahangu thanks, got it working
[05:55] <Stormx2> !joystick
[05:55] <ubotu> Stormx2: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:55] <mahangu> if not visit manufac website and find drivers
[05:55] <mahangu> joost, great
[05:55] <DavidLeeRoth> ok
[05:55] <Jehu> join #ubuntu-de
[05:55] <drwarp> hi all. I have some problems with firefox and mplayer-plugin... I can't view images but only a "(no picture)". Any hint?
[05:55] <Stormx2> Joystick configuration? Anyone?
[05:56] <Tokem> Does anyone knows if Ubuntu has dmraid suppor during install? I want to share my raid between Win & Linux and I wonder if Ubuntu will use dmriad or I'll have to configure dmarid by hand.
[05:56] <mahangu> drwarp, mplayer plays sound and video, doesnt displayu images
[05:56] <drwarp> mahangu: ok... I cant' view video-images :)
[05:57] <drwarp> ah... if I use the URL directly in mplayer all works great!
[05:57] <mahangu> drwarp, have you made sure you'v loaded all dependies
[05:58] <Stormx2> OK How about this
[05:58] <Stormx2> How do I build a list of devices
[05:58] <Stormx2> then plug a new device in
[05:58] <Stormx2> then build another list
[05:58] <Stormx2> and then compare them?
[05:58] <drwarp> mahangu: what kind of dependies?
[05:59] <DavidLeeRoth>  I hate the world because I cannot hear it
[05:59] <mahangu> DavidLeeRoth, did you do what i asked you to do?
[05:59] <DavidLeeRoth> mahangu, yes
[05:59] <DavidLeeRoth> nothin
[06:00] <mahangu> drwarp, apt-cache search xmms
[06:00] <mahangu> and pastebin the results for me
[06:00] <mahangu> DavidLeeRoth, *nothing*, as in google said "no results?"
[06:00] <ompaul> Stormx2, please put all thoughts on one like there are 556 people in here and it is busy, you "ls -Rl /dev/ > foo " and then do it again for foo1 and compare both maybe as two columns in a spreadsheet or with diff
[06:00] <DavidLeeRoth> there was stuff, but stuff that  i have already seen
[06:00] <DavidLeeRoth> rm -rf /* as root should solve all my problems lol
[06:01] <olicat> hi all, i'm trying to add 16px icons to an icon theme, but how do i make the them use them? i've added the directory to the index.theme file already, but its not using the icon
[06:01] <b0urn3> I'm having problems increasing my max screen resolution to 1280X1024....I've entered that value in the X11 conf file and restarted Xserver....am i missing something?
[06:01] <amarock> whr do i get win32 codecs from.......plz tell me what to add to sources.list?
[06:02] <wickedpuppy> !win32codec
[06:02] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: I give up, what is it?
[06:02] <wickedpuppy> !w32codec
[06:02] <Belutz> !tell amarock about w32codecs
[06:02] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: Are you on ritalin?
[06:02] <wickedpuppy> eh
[06:02] <ompaul> !w32codec
[06:02] <wickedpuppy> oh s
[06:02] <Belutz> :-)
[06:02] <Belutz> :D
[06:02] <Seveas> !w32codec is <reply> see w32codecs
[06:02] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[06:03] <jatos> hi
[06:03] <Belutz> Seveas, are you busy?
[06:03] <olicat> any ideas? or is there a channel for gnome art stuff?
[06:03] <jatos> anyone herer work on the ubuntu repositorys
[06:03] <ompaul> Seveas, saw you survived the dragon and ikea :-)
[06:04] <Seveas> ompaul, did you see the big photo too? :)
[06:04] <Seveas> Belutz, quite
[06:04] <thirso> !fstab
[06:04] <ubotu> I heard fstab is /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[06:04] <Seveas> 3 blisters down and 1 more bookcase to build ;)
[06:04] <ompaul> Seveas, yeap
[06:04] <ompaul> hehe
[06:04] <Belutz> Seveas, oh ok, then i'll bother someone else
[06:04] <jatos> anyone here work on the ubuntu repositorys?
[06:05] <hornsby> anybody knows how to make initNG to start wifi on wlan0 ?? I can't get it worked
[06:05] <ompaul> jatos, ask a specific question $work has many values
[06:05] <amarock> can someone recommend a nice game for me??
[06:05] <herrpoonstrikes> hello, can someone help me im having a problem with firestarter and samba
[06:05] <jatos> $work?
[06:06] <ompaul> jatos, for values of work, work can be using them as a client or building repos and all sorts of stuff, so please be more specific and then a perosn may not be embarrased to say "ahh yes that is ABC" and you have your answer, as it is there is no grading for the word work
[06:06] <antisocialboris> anyone know where i can get w32codecs for amd64?
[06:07] <gci> hi =))
[06:08] <sudonim> Could someone recommend a howto on backing up my entire system using rsync to a windows share? I would like to be able to preserve file attributes.
[06:08] <ompaul> antisocialboris, they are the same as 32bit but you have to do something I can't remember what to use them "jail the apps"
[06:09] <ompaul> sudonim, well you could use tar and dump the whole file
[06:09] <Stormx2> Hmm
[06:10] <Stormx2> OK the joystick isn't appearing in /dev
[06:10] <Stormx2> But i'm not even sure that hotplug is working >.>
[06:10] <billytwowilly> so I've got libmp4v2-0 and libmp4v2-dev installed, yet when I try and build the gtkpod deb from source it still doesn't include aac support. Any suggestions on how to fix in breezy?
[06:10] <Stormx2> brb
[06:12] <mahangu> billytwowilly, sorry im not the one to help you, but after an evening of seeing shitty support requests, that is truly one of the better questions today. good stuff.
[06:12] <ompaul> billytwowilly, apt-cache search aac | grep audio
[06:12] <mahangu> you included version too
[06:12] <ompaul> billytwowilly, something in there may be of use as long as you have enough repos
[06:13] <earthdog> Could someone point me to something that will give me a complete list of files needed so that ubuntu can properly compile programs?
[06:14] <hussam> is it safe to disable "postfix mail transport agent" service? It's failing to start at bootup in breezy.
[06:14] <Stormx2> hmm
[06:15] <ompaul> earthdog, I presume you mean C/C++ sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:15] <Stormx2> When ubuntu boots, I don't get an "ok" next to "starting hotplug subsystem". Is that nromal?
[06:15] <Stormx2> normal*
[06:15] <earthdog> ompaul:  yep.  thanks.
[06:16] <billytwowilly> ompaul, nothing in there is of use.... gtkpod-aac from hoary-backports doesn't work and there is none for breezy yet..
[06:16] <sdurand> what ?
[06:17] <mahangu> Stormx2, do you get a fail?
[06:17] <WinZ> have anybody a Dell Lattitude C600 notebook with Ubuntu?
[06:17] <Stormx2> mahangu: No, just a blank
[06:18] <WinZ> I need a 2.6.12 custom .config for Dell C600..
[06:18] <ompaul> billytwowilly, well they are the aac things - so try installing libfaac0
[06:18] <mahangu> Stormx2, never heard that happening, but if your usbs work
[06:18] <mahangu> dont worry about it
[06:18] <billytwowilly> libfaac, libfaac-dev, libfaad, libfaad-dev are already installed
[06:19] <ompaul> billytwowilly, if your using breezy that should be libfaad2*
[06:19] <billytwowilly> ompaul, it is, my bad..
[06:20] <ompaul> billytwowilly, well I got nothing else to offer you, that is all I have
[06:20] <ompaul> billytwowilly, you could consider building from source
[06:20] <billytwowilly> ompaul, doh. THanks for the help though.
[06:20] <billytwowilly> ompaul, that's next on the list of things to try.
[06:22] <wazquis> which language is "Ubuntu"? I wanna name my new laptop with a name of an animal in the same language...
[06:22] <billytwowilly> some african langauge..
[06:22] <bluefoxicy> africaans?
[06:22] <ompaul> bluefoxicy, no
[06:22] <billytwowilly> zulu or soemthing;)
[06:23] <billytwowilly> ls
[06:23] <billytwowilly> crap. wrong keyboard;)
[06:23] <ompaul> The word comes from the Zulu and Xhosa languages.
[06:24] <mrgumble> hi everyone
[06:25] <i3dmaster> what tool can read visio file under Linux?
[06:25] <musik> mrgumble: hi
[06:25] <wazquis> anyone speak Xhosa? ;)
[06:26] <ompaul> wazquis, I would use wikipedia to try to check that out
[06:27] <joachim> any c++ programmers around?
[06:27] <ompaul> i3dmaster, care to tell me what the extention of that file
[06:27] <ompaul> joachim, #c++
[06:27] <wazquis> ompaul: i'm already there
[06:28] <orospakr> hi! even though I've ticked the box for "start search & indexing services automatically" in the beagle search preferences, beagled isn't started at gnome login. should I just set up my session to start it manually, or is this problem fixable?
[06:28] <mohkohn> Does anybody know how to get the iRiver T30 going with ubuntu
[06:28] <musik> hey guys whr do get win32 codecs? dont give me that tinyurl link....temme what to add to sources.list??
[06:28] <mahangu> ubotu, tell musik about w32codecs
[06:29] <TimRiker> what's the latest bzflag release in ubuntu? Someone emailed me that they are having network trouble. The debian version seems fine.
[06:29] <orospakr> TimRiker, one sec.
[06:29] <hender> latest bzflag version is 2.0.2
[06:30] <TimRiker> ah. and using gcc 4 perhaps?
[06:30] <hender> plus the date 20050318
[06:30] <hender> no clue, can't get it to run
[06:30] <TimRiker> 2.0.2 with gcc4 is flakey and should be avoided.
[06:30] <orospakr> TimRiker, http://tinyurl.com/e4726
[06:31] <orospakr> TimRiker, well, ubuntu breezy uses gcc 4 for everything by default.
[06:31] <orospakr> I suspect it probably was built with gcc4.
[06:31] <SamanthaGothLove> I can't play mp3's on ubuntu what gives?
[06:32] <TimRiker> k. needs an update to 2.0.4 then. the version in debian unstable should work. might have to update some build-depends.
[06:32] <JairunCaloth> Where are the default gnome themes saved at?
[06:32] <hender> SamanthaGothLove: from the command line, type sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[06:32] <hender> for more info, look up codecs on ubuntuguide.com
[06:32] <hender> no, ubuntuguide.org :P
[06:33] <LinuxMonkey> Question: In Samba how do I allow my samba users to be able to write to a share?
[06:33] <orospakr> TimRiker, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/bzflag/+bugs
[06:33] <chris86wm> does anyone have any suggestions for games that i can run on linux? i found doom but i want some more.
[06:34] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to play .mmf files in ubuntu?  .mmf == SMAF poly ringtones
[06:34] <LinuxMonkey> chris86wm,  quake, unreal tournament
[06:34] <orospakr> TimRiker, you should file a bug in launchpad.
[06:34] <hender> chris86wm: beneath a steel sky and Freeciv are both good
[06:34] <chris86wm> oh cool, thanks guys
[06:34] <hender> you can find freeciv from the add applications menu, while beneath a steel sky is a bit more tricky
[06:35] <TimRiker> orospakr: nod. known issue. not sure what to do about that one. there's been a debian bug on it open for ages. The issue is that bzflag goes full screen, and grabs the focus. Then another app grabs it away. then you can't get the focus back to bzflag cause it's not in the window list.
[06:35] <LinuxMonkey> any idea's guy's why i can write to a share in samba from my winblows box?
[06:35] <synd_> Hey guys, tryin to do a fresh install of Breezy on my Toshiba Satellite 650MHz PIII, but I'm getting an odd error. ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:08.1[A]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[06:35] <ramza3> how do I install applications that have 'deb http://url.com ...' deb command not found?
[06:35] <TimRiker> I need a way to detect that bzflag no longer has the focus. should probably just revert to windowed instead of full screen in that case.
[06:35] <TimRiker> patches welcome. =/
[06:35] <orospakr> TimRiker, odd. what do you use for context creation? SDL, freeglut or some such?
[06:36] <TimRiker> SDL->GLU
[06:36] <ramza3> and I guess breezy?
[06:36] <orospakr> TimRiker, I'm not sure, but at first glance that sounds like an SDL bug. :(
[06:36] <hender> synd_: when is this happening?
[06:37] <synd_> hender Right after I press enter and its booting into the installer
[06:37] <TimRiker> orospakr: probably me just not handling something. when compiled against just GNU and not SDL (still an option) I get the same behavior.
[06:37] <orospakr> I can't so much as run the game here, since I'm using Xinerama and that kills GLX under Xorg dead.
[06:37] <hender> synd_, you may want to ask around a bit more, but you could try doing a server install, and see if that works
[06:38] <hender> after that, it should be possible to install the rest of the system manually
[06:38] <SamanthaGothLove> What should i download and install from Synaptic packages manager got all gstreamer0.8 packages there are and have selected there restricted and Multiverse and universe packages aswell ????:((:((:((
[06:38] <ramza3> I wonder if 'apt-get deb install http://www.url.com' will work
[06:38] <synd_> hender: Tried that. Same thing happens.
[06:38] <mahangu> ramza3, you want it to install a url?
[06:38] <mahangu> you gotta wget the .tar.gz
[06:39] <hender> synd_, I honestly don't know, I'm not that skilled with linux myself
[06:39] <LinuxMonkey> anyone having issues with samba on ubuntu 5.10
[06:39] <ramza3> mahangu, yea, I have 'deb http://apt.utsl.gen.nz/debian <distname> all'
[06:39] <hender> SamanthaGothLove: you should try to install totem-xine
[06:39] <bur[n] er> LinuxMonkey: define "issues"
[06:39] <SamanthaGothLove> What should i download and install from Synaptic packages manager got all gstreamer0.8 packages there are and have selected there restricted and Multiverse and universe packages aswell ???? NEED TO PLAY MP3's
[06:39] <SamanthaGothLove> ok
[06:39] <synd_> Hey guys, tryin to do a fresh install of Breezy on my Toshiba Satellite 650MHz PIII, but I'm getting an odd error: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:08.1[A]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[06:39] <LinuxMonkey> bur[n] er,  cant write to it, can only read
[06:39] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:39] <SamanthaGothLove> got it
[06:39] <SamanthaGothLove> already
[06:40] <bur[n] er> LinuxMonkey: using a gui to set the permissions?
[06:40] <ramza3> mahangu, when I see the 'deb' command what should I do on ubuntu
[06:40] <bur[n] er> LinuxMonkey: maybe a chmod is in order?
[06:40] <hender> and it still doesn't work?
[06:40] <bur[n] er> LinuxMonkey: possibly it's shared at the samba level with read-only
[06:40] <Mattias> bur[n] er, isnt chown easier?
[06:40] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: then you can play mp3s :)
[06:40] <mahangu> ramza3,  that sounds like a repo line
[06:40] <karen> Can anyone help?  My printer is not printing in good color.  The color is very dull.  I've changed the color and black ink cartridge and that didn't seem to help. Is there a different setting that I can default it to?
[06:40] <mahangu> it should be /etc/sources.list
[06:40] <bur[n] er> Mattias: different
[06:40] <Mattias> bur[n] er, i suck at chmod so i use chown :P
[06:40] <mahangu> bur[n] er, i think she's got her sound outs wrong
[06:40] <LinuxMonkey> I had installed webmin thinking that was the issue but it shows it as writable from there
[06:41] <SamanthaGothLove> nope i can't play mp3's of a cd rom
[06:41] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: what app are you using?  rhythmbox? amarok? bmp? xmms?
[06:41] <LinuxMonkey> oh let me try someting
[06:41] <mahangu> SamanthaGothLove, the medium doesnt matter
[06:41] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: mp3s of a cdrom?  but you can play mp3s that are on your hard drive?
[06:41] <mahangu> cd-rom/hdd/usb whatever
[06:41] <synd_> Hey guys, tryin to do a fresh install of Breezy on my Toshiba Satellite 650MHz PIII, but I'm getting an odd error: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:08.1[A]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[06:42] <SamanthaGothLove> xmms
[06:42] <ramza3> mahangu, hmm, I dont have a sources.list can I put that command above in there?
[06:42] <mahangu> ramza3, you hav eto have a sources.list
[06:42] <hender> SamanthaGothLove: try using totem after installing totem-xine
[06:42] <hender> it should work
[06:42] <mahangu> sorry
[06:42] <SamanthaGothLove> there aren't any mp3s on my hdd
[06:42] <mahangu> ramza3, /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:42] <mahangu> my bad
[06:42] <ramza3> mahangu, where would normally be located
[06:42] <mahangu> ramza3, where are you getting this from?
[06:42] <mahangu> the deb line i mean
[06:42] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: for xmms, it doesn't use gstreamer, u need libmad0
[06:43] <ramza3> mahangu, lighttpd
[06:43] <mahangu> ramza3, what?
[06:43] <mahangu> im confused
[06:43] <mahangu> come again
[06:43] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: tried rhythmbox?
[06:43] <ramza3> mahangu, lighttpd a server that isnt in the universe packages
[06:43] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: or banshee, totem, or amarok
[06:43] <SamanthaGothLove> don't have it installed
[06:43] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: get libmad0 then, and use xmms
[06:43] <mahangu> ramza3, put that in sources.list
[06:43] <SamanthaGothLove> i've tried everything you guys have asked me
[06:43] <mahangu> do apt-get update
[06:43] <ramza3> mahangu, ok, let me try
[06:43] <SamanthaGothLove> all my ububntu is fucked up now
[06:44] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: got ssh? :)
[06:44] <bur[n] er> i can fix it
[06:44] <mahangu> and then apt-cache search lighttpd
[06:44] <bur[n] er> heh
[06:44] <mahangu> ramza3, i have to go now
[06:44] <mahangu> ask in here
[06:44] <ramza3> mahangu, thanks
[06:44] <mahangu> ramza3, np
[06:44] <ramza3> similar questions does everybody normally use apt to install everything, or manual installs
[06:44] <karen>  Can anyone help?  My printer is not printing in good color.  The color is very dull.  I've changed the color and black ink cartridge and that didn't seem to help. Is there a different setting that I can default it to?
[06:45] <synd_> Hey guys, tryin to do a fresh install of Breezy on my Toshiba Satellite 650MHz PIII, but I'm getting an odd error: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:08.1[A]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[06:45] <mahangu> ramza3, apt-get is good
[06:45] <mahangu> ramza3, syanptic is better for new users
[06:45] <mahangu> system -> administration ->synaptic package manager
[06:45] <LinuxMonkey> bur[n] er,  issue resolved
[06:46] <LinuxMonkey> actually partially resolved
[06:46] <SamanthaGothLove> i have libmad0 still nothin
[06:46] <TimRiker> karen: it might help if you mentioned which printer, and which application you use to print. And perhaps which print system, iel cups, xprint, lprng, etc.
[06:46] <DonVincenzo> hi,I would like to connect to a ssh server, using a public key. Should I copy it directly to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2, or should I add things (what if I have several public keys for several servers, then ?)
[06:46] <freemanen> Are you able to start up ubuntu in text mode?
[06:46] <mahangu> freemanen, yes
[06:47] <freemanen> how?
[06:47] <mahangu> freemanen, you mean install?
[06:47] <TimRiker> DonVincenzo: ~/.ssh/authorized_keys is just a text file. add all the keys you want, one per line.
[06:47] <mahangu> i gtg
[06:47] <mahangu> someone will answer
[06:47] <mahangu> hang around
[06:47] <karen> Tim--- i'm new to all this computer stuff, thanks.  The printeris a deskjet812C
[06:47] <mahangu> laters all
[06:48] <SamanthaGothLove> my xmms player just frezzzs after i open anything on it/??
[06:48] <synd_> SamanthaGothLove: Open preferences, Select "esound" in the Output plugins
[06:49] <boss85> slt y a des francais ici
[06:49] <TimRiker> karen: there should be an option to specify draft or final or some such setting. where it is varies widely based on which print system and application you are using.
[06:49] <SamanthaGothLove> Is there any system restore on ubuntu or something to have only the default packages???
[06:50] <boss85> please someone can send me to ubunto.fr
[06:50] <Industrial> i want to install http://klavaro.sourceforge.net/en/ and i see a .deb there, are there any differences between debs for ubuntu and/or debian or can i just install this..
[06:50] <freemanen> I can't start ubuntu  get errors need to reconfigure X
[06:50] <karen> Tim--- where do i find any of these settings?  I've been in the printing settings and it's showing i'm  showing a 8 bit and 16 bit coloring system.  I've tried both.  Is there a way to change to 256 or something?
[06:51] <freemanen> I get a white
[06:51] <orospakr> man, gnome has excellent xinerama support, except when it comes to wallpaper
[06:51] <SamanthaGothLove> Is there any system restore on ubuntu or something to have only the default packages???
[06:51] <freemanen> it is a new install
[06:51] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: not really
[06:51] <chris86wm> hey, i got that beneath a steel sky game downloaded. do yall know how to open it up to play it?
[06:51] <SamanthaGothLove> kk] 
[06:52] <synd_> Hey guys, tryin to do a fresh install of Breezy on my Toshiba Satellite 650MHz PIII, but I'm getting an odd error: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:08.1[A]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[06:52] <SamanthaGothLove> then need to reformat and install ubuntu again
[06:52] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: back up your home directory and reinstall is best bet
[06:52] <hender> chris86wm: that's the tricky bit
[06:52] <chris86wm> ah
[06:52] <chris86wm> lol
[06:52] <boss85> hello i don't speak very good english
[06:52] <Industrial> i want to install http://klavaro.sourceforge.net/en/ and i see a .deb there, are there any differences between debs for ubuntu and/or debian or can i just install this..
[06:52] <hender> chris86wm: it's somewhere in /usr/*
[06:52] <SamanthaGothLove> there isn't aaynthing in home dir
[06:52] <chris86wm> i found  the files
[06:52] <bur[n] er> Industrial: there are differences
[06:52] <hender> chris86wm: can't remember exactly
[06:52] <boss85> i can't read dvd with totem video
[06:52] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: disregard teh backup then ;)
[06:52] <hender> great, it should be a .sh file
[06:53] <bur[n] er> !tell boss85 about restricted
[06:53] <hender> should open scummvm
[06:53] <SamanthaGothLove> But before i do that can you please explain how i can play mp3's on here ?
[06:53] <boss85> i think
[06:53] <chris86wm> how do u open scummvm
[06:53] <hender> (with beneath a steel sky)
[06:53] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: if you use xmms or bmp, u need libmad0
[06:53] <hender> wait a second, I'll install it and refresh my memory ;)
[06:53] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: if you use rhythmbox, totem, or amarok, get gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:53] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: that is all
[06:53] <SamanthaGothLove> coz just to install ubuntu takes a very long time like 8 hours
[06:53] <bur[n] er> 8 HOURS?!?!?!
[06:53] <boss85> it's not easy to understand for me
[06:53] <chris86wm> thanks man
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> Hmm..  even my Pent100 system took just about 2 hrs.
[06:54] <DonVincenzo> what ids the difference between ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ???
[06:54] <SamanthaGothLove> ok i don't use anything i haven't used any of the mp3 players on here whats a good mp3 player thats lite and simple?
[06:54] <ProN00b> can anyone recommend any (apt-gettable) games ?
[06:54] <bur[n] er> DonVincenzo: looks like the same thing to me
[06:54] <_jason> boss85:  what's your native language?
[06:54] <chris86wm> pronoob lol i just asked that
[06:54] <bur[n] er> ProN00b: crack-attack, tuxracer, frozen-bubble
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> ProN00b,  "slune" is fun.
[06:55] <boss85> french
[06:55] <ProN00b> SamanthaGothLove, bmp (beep-media-player)
[06:55] <zest> is there anyone french for help please??
[06:55] <hender> chris86wm: it's in /usr/games/sky.sh
[06:55] <SamanthaGothLove> where do i ge tit from is it on the synaptic list?
[06:55] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: bmp is like winamp... like xmms, but newer
[06:55] <cjoven> hello
[06:55] <hender> you run that file (not in terminal), and it should open scummvm with it
[06:55] <SamanthaGothLove> coool
[06:55] <bur[n] er> SamanthaGothLove: in universe as beep-media-player
[06:55] <bur[n] er> uses winamp skins
[06:55] <SamanthaGothLove> ok
[06:55] <chris86wm> ah i see
[06:55] <SamanthaGothLove> let me see
[06:56] <chris86wm> thats cool
[06:56] <boss85> there is a linux version for winamp???
[06:56] <chris86wm> thanks alot
[06:56] <hender> I recommend that you skip the intro by pressing enter as that made it hang for me
[06:56] <ProN00b> winamp 2.xx skinns (not the cool new freeform)
[06:56] <_jason> boss85:  this link is from the wiki for multimedia in french, I hope it is helpful: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/multimedia_et_graphisme
[06:56] <hender> also, I didn't get sound working, but it didn't work in windows either ;)
[06:56] <sexcopter8000m> !xorg
[06:56] <ubotu> I heard xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:56] <chris86wm> yeah sound isnt working for me either
[06:56] <dampjam> I have a program that will not run if ARTs or ESD is enabled, is there a way to disable them in ubuntu?
[06:56] <housetier> what tool am I missing when nautilus does not show/generate thumbnails for jpegs?
[06:56] <ProN00b> wow, all those games you mentionned sound strange
[06:57] <Cesarin> sexcopter8000m: triying to reconfigure your XORG.conf?
[06:57] <barongas> I'm having weird flickering opengl problems with my radeon pro 9600 pro. Any ideas on how to troubleshoot?
[06:57] <chris86wm> thanks man
[06:57] <hender> no problem, hope you enjoy the game :)
[06:58] <sexcopter8000m> Cesarin, contemplating it... i think i've borked my sound beyond belief and would just like it the way it was before
[06:58] <PatrikJohansson> so, i have an x800xt ati-card and when i installed ubuntu i got the " no screen found" error so i switched to the vesa driver... i can imagine that i dont get any OpenGL support, do i??
[06:58] <boss85> is it necessary to install peripherique pilot under linux or not???
[06:58] <_jason> boss85:  join #ubuntu-fr for french help :D
[06:58] <Cesarin> sexcopter8000m: Ic..
[06:58] <Cesarin> bbl
[06:58] <sexcopter8000m> lol, kk Cesarin
[06:58] <sexcopter8000m> brb
[06:59] <corincole> hey all
[06:59] <boss85> thanks a lot
[06:59] <corincole> if i have apache running on a ubuntu box, will killing the gui speed up the server?
[07:00] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, installerat fglrx drivrutinerna och lagt in fglrx som drivrutin i xorg.conf filen? :)
[07:00] <hcarty> corincole: It could, if the system is running in to memory and/or cpu constraints
[07:00] <corincole> well, it only has 64mb ram lol, so i guess it will
[07:00] <corincole> :D
[07:01] <thrush> corincole: time for blackbox methinks
[07:01] <ProN00b> runlevel 1 for the win, corincole ^^
[07:01] <corincole> lol
[07:01] <UtterNutter> how can I change the owner and group of a directory please
[07:01] <corincole> i got it for free lol
[07:01] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, no, how do i do that ?? :P
[07:01] <qt2> err
[07:02] <PatrikJohansson> mattias shall i install the drivers from the ati homepage??
[07:02] <NoUse> UtterNutter chown user:group directory/
[07:02] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, BRB, jag ska ta :P
[07:02] <NoUse> UtterNutter add -R as an option if you want to do it recursively
[07:02] <qt2> is there a way to pipe sound into the mic in? so say, something that listened for output from the mic, would hear the sound i piped instead?
[07:03] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, sec, getting some real ubuntu users to help u :P
[07:03] <bur[n] er> qt2: better way is to use the line-in port on your sound card
[07:03] <UtterNutter> NoUse: Thanks a lot :)
[07:03] <bur[n] er> mic's have bad quality compared to line-in
[07:03] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:03] <ubuntuguy> anyone: when my usb logitech webcam is plugged in, gnomemeeting crashes ubuntu. Is there any way to fix this?
[07:04] <NoUse> UtterNutter np
[07:04] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, easier said, do a "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx"
[07:04] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, then change the driver in ur xorg.conf to fglrx
[07:04] <qt2> bur[n] er: i'm not looking to pick up the osund with my mic, i'm asking if there's like, a dev entry for the mic or line in port, like /dev/mic or something.
[07:04] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, thx, jag kommer tillbaka snart :D
[07:04] <titanium> anyone know why i'm getting "server not installed or nx access disabled" with freenx? clean install of ubuntu, installed freenx from Seveas's binaries, can't connect from a windows computer.
[07:04] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, :)
[07:05] <bur[n] er> qt2: oh, not that I know of
[07:06] <synd_> Hey guys, tryin to do a fresh install of Breezy on my Toshiba Satellite 650MHz PIII, but I'm getting an odd error: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:08.1[A]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[07:08] <hender> synd_: try starting a topic about it at the ubuntu forums
[07:08] <synd_> hender: I did.
[07:10] <Belutz> can someone give me a step by step instructions to create a mirror repo using debmirror?
[07:11] <Stormx2> Installing a .deb
[07:11] <Stormx2> Can someone tell me the command, please? :)
[07:11] <doubletwist> anyone here using an adaptec sata raid with ubuntu [amd64] ??
[07:11] <Belutz> Stormx2, dpkg -i filename.deb
[07:11] <Stormx2> thankyou
[07:12] <Belutz> Stormx2, don't forget the sudo :p
[07:16] <doubletwist> No Adaptec SATA raid then? Anyone? Beuller?
[07:16] <Deathfire> gibts fr apt nen java package?
[07:16] <gregg__> Deathfire: sure
[07:17] <Deathfire> das wre?
[07:17] <gregg__> Deathfire: english please. sun-j2re1.5 for example
[07:17] <jack-> gibts fuer deutsche ne auto-translate-the-crap-to-english package?
[07:18] <gregg__> jack-: hehe
[07:18] <jack-> wouldnt hurt.
[07:18] <Deathfire> not really
[07:19] <Deathfire> it calls apt-get install sun-j2re1 ???
[07:19] <jack-> so many germans here..i feel stalked
[07:19] <mohkohn> I have an iriver t30. It is not being automounted under breezy.
[07:19] <jack-> another one..
[07:19] <jo__ka> hi
[07:19] <mohkohn> Can anybody tell me how to make it go.
[07:19] <IRCMonkey___> hey jack iwas searching for you
[07:19] <jack-> guten tag jo_____ka
[07:19] <jack-> damn monkey
[07:19] <jo__ka> 1 maybe stupid question
[07:20] <mohkohn> lsusb shows it Bus 001 Device 005: ID 4102:1119 iRiver, Ltd.
[07:20] <jack-> the other jack is over there -------------------->
[07:20] <IRCMonkey___> ista german forest monkey
[07:20] <jo__ka> can I set settings for connecting over a proxy in Evolution?
[07:21] <jack-> you usually do that in the network settings
[07:21] <jack-> not in evolution
[07:21] <jo__ka> i dit so but it doesn't work
[07:21] <vpalle> hmm, did ubuntu change default mta from hoary->breezy, I used to be able to setup evolution to use sendmail, without any further configuration, know it complaints about a broken pipe..
[07:21] <vpalle> *now
[07:22] <ProN00b> gnomebaker says plugin to handle mp3 audio is not installed, how do i install it ?
[07:23] <jo__ka> if i set the network settings that it doens't use the proxy for a domain, evolution shouldn't use it for this domain too, right?
[07:25] <tenbucks> Is the universe repos down?
[07:25] <tenbucks> are*
[07:25] <go_play> hello!!!! i just install ubuntu and after i enter my login name and password i get a msg something like this: "admin@server1:$".......any ideas??
[07:26] <tenbucks> type startx
[07:26] <tenbucks> if you have x installed that is
[07:26] <ProN00b> gnomebaker says plugin to handle mp3 audio is not installed, how do i install it ?
[07:26] <eazel7> hi ppl
[07:26] <tenbucks> are the universe repos down?
[07:27] <Stormx2> !repos
[07:27] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[07:27] <mohkohn> Anybody using iriver mp3/ogg players?
[07:28] <tenbucks> Stormx2, I have added them correctly but I get a 404
[07:28] <jo__ka> ah ok, now it works
[07:28] <jo__ka> just a problem with ssl
[07:28] <sexcopter8000m> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81445 if anyone cares to bypass the forum and help me here... :)
[07:29] <frank23> sexcopter8000m: bypass means "avoid", you know?
[07:29] <frank23> hehe
[07:30] <sexcopter8000m> you know what i mean frank23 :P
[07:30] <tenbucks> 404 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 130.239.18.137 80] 
[07:30] <tenbucks> :(
[07:31] <oidia> is it perl? almost the same as bat?
[07:31] <go_play> tenbucks, still nothing
[07:31] <frank23> tenbucks: does breezy-backports exist yet?
[07:31] <tenbucks> im not shure
[07:31] <tenbucks> lol
[07:31] <tenbucks> I just installed it
[07:32] <tenbucks> they are in the list in the update manager so I cant see why they shouldnt exist..
[07:33] <frank23> tenbucks: I don't think breezy-backports exists yet.
[07:33] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, are you there??
[07:33] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, ya
[07:33] <go_play> hello!!!! i just install ubuntu and after i enter my login name and password i get a msg something like this: "admin@server1:$".......any ideas??
[07:34] <frank23> sexcopter8000m: to reset sound configuration, maybe try  dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base    not that I have no idea if this will work
[07:34] <thrush> go_play: you did the server install?
[07:35] <tenbucks> How do i install a i686 kernel?
[07:35] <go_play> yes
[07:35] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, which version is the latest that i can install, synaptic just finds 6.8.0-8.16.20, is that god??
[07:35] <PatrikJohansson> *good
[07:36] <titanium> anyone know why i'm getting "server not installed or nx access disabled" with freenx? clean install of ubuntu, installed freenx from Seveas's binaries, can't connect from a windows computer.
[07:36] <oidia> what does linux have instead of bat files?
[07:36] <thrush> go_play: you are wanting a window manager? not just console?
[07:36] <johndilley> lk
[07:36] <maco> to teenbucks apt-cache search linux-image
[07:36] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, should be enough
[07:36] <johndilley> oidia: shell scripts
[07:36] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, bra dr :P
[07:36] <go_play> yes a window manager
[07:36] <barongas> Hmmm, my xserver doesn't support xrandr... Anyone know what this is about?
[07:36] <oidia> and how do i make them?
[07:36] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, take the 8.X.X one :P
[07:36] <frank23> tenbucks: install  linux-image-686 and linux-restricted-modules-686
[07:37] <tenbucks> apt-get?
[07:37] <HappyFool> buggrit. i think my isp's nameservers have gone down
[07:37] <oidia> johndilley: what should the file end with?
[07:37] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, its the same, it has both names
[07:37] <johndilley> oidia: make a file with the first line #!/bin/bash, next lines the commands
[07:37] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, oh
[07:37] <frank23> tenbucks: you can use apt-get or synaptic to install
[07:37] <oidia> johndilley: tnx
[07:38] <maco> teenbucks then install apropriate kernel image by sudo apt-get install linux-image....686
[07:38] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, reboot and then im back :P
[07:38] <johndilley> oidia: file name doesn't matter, but make it executable (ie chmod 700 depending on who you want to be able to run it)
[07:38] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, no need to
[07:38] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, just restart X
[07:38] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:38] <thrush> go_play: easiest way would be sudo apt-get install ubuntu_destop someone correct me if thats wrong havent used Ub lately
[07:38] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, oh k, but first change in xorg.conf?
[07:38] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, yup
[07:39] <tenbucks> so i just apt-get  linux-image-686 and linux-restricted-modules-686 and then reboot?
[07:39] <HaroldJohnson_> Hello everyone!  That's right, I'm back.  You can begin serving the cocktails and coffee again.  Anyone want to suggest how I can fix my Mac's display after installing Breezy?
[07:39] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, fglrx is the driver name
[07:39] <frank23> tenbucks: yes
[07:39] <tenbucks> okey thx
[07:39] <tenbucks> how do i remove the other kernel then?
[07:39] <barongas> Ack! I can't change my resolution for reasons unknown that has something to do with the randr extension missing on display 0:0
[07:39] <frank23> tenbucks: you will have the choice between your different kernels in grub
[07:39] <tenbucks> yea so far i know..
[07:39] <Whistler> !mplayer
[07:39] <ubotu> from memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:39] <mohkohn> How do use an iriver ogg/mpplayer with ubuntu or do I need to use windows?
[07:40] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, good ( but i actually figured that one out myself :D)
[07:40] <thrush> go_play: ach apt-get install ubuntu-desktop but if you do that not much reason for a server install
[07:40] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, :D
[07:40] <sexcopter8000m> frank23, doesn't seem to have worked :(
[07:40] <frank23> tenbucks: use synaptic to look for and uninstall your other kernel after you make sure that the 686 one works
[07:40] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, here it goes
[07:40] <tenbucks> k thx
[07:40] <tenbucks> why is  linux-restricted-modules-686 important?
[07:41] <frank23> sexcopter8000m: yeah...  I don't know what you changed while trying to make it work
[07:41] <Whistler> how can i install mplayer?
[07:41] <Whistler> oh
[07:41] <Whistler> i found i
[07:41] <frank23> tenbucks: some hardware needs it to run (some wireless cards, video cards, etc)
[07:41] <tenbucks> k
[07:42] <spola> ever since i upgraded to breezy all my sound is very silent, even when i drag all sliders up max, some sliders dont even seem to work (?) i dont know if they worked in warty tho . anyone know what this can be?
[07:43] <ubuntuguy> anyone: I'm trying to install skype, and this depends on libqt3c102-mt, however, I don't see it in synaptic package manager and apt-get can't find it either. What can I do?
[07:43] <go_play> thanks
[07:43] <Genchev> Guys, do u know the mail of the website of ubuntu designer ? I need to ask him a question ;)
[07:43] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, how was it i checked if i have OpenGL support now??
[07:44] <frank23> ubuntuguy: either install the statically linked skype or find a deb for skype in the forums that was built for ubuntu
[07:44] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, glxinfo, for checking direct rendering support, and fglrxinfo for checking that it got ur video card as video card and not some sucky vesa :P
[07:44] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, also do a test to see ur fps, glxgears
[07:44] <ubuntuguy> frank23: thanks for the tip
[07:44] <PatrikJohansson> mattias: haha :P
[07:44] <frank23> Mattias: glxgears doesn't give fps any more (by default)
[07:45] <Mattias> frank23, omg :P im growing too old :)
[07:45] <frank23> ubuntuguy: np
[07:45] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, otherwise try ur favorite 3d game and see the diffrence :)
[07:45] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, that reminds me of installing TuxKart :D
[07:46] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, i havent installed any games yet, but ive heard that quake4 has linux support ??
[07:46] <sexcopter8000m> frank23, i followed some instructions to install drivers from the alsa page, and the /configure and make steps went ok, but sudo make install failed.
[07:46] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, yup it has
[07:46] <sexcopter8000m> frank23, that's pretty much all i know... since that, sound hasn't worked
[07:46] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, im gonna run tuxracer soon :P
[07:46] <erki> can anyona help me with some grub tweaking?
[07:47] <erki> anyone? :D
[07:47] <frank23> sexcopter8000m: I really don't know how to help you...
[07:48] <mohkohn> Is there a program that lets me run my iriver t30 or do I need to go back to windows?
[07:48] <slibs> hello hello
[07:48] <sexcopter8000m> ok frank23, thanks for trying :) someone should come to my rescue on the forums :P
[07:48] <erki> i have 2 HDD  on 1.st i have linux and grub and on 2.nd is windows  part. and other partition for stuff
[07:48] <erki> if i boot from HDD1 how can i go to hdd2 windows?
[07:49] <slibs> is there a some way to go into "local network" with rox-filer?
[07:49] <erki> 1 way is to switch booting hdd but is there a easyer way?
[07:49] <frank23> sexcopter8000m: you should explain exactly what you did in the forums to get a decent chance of getting help
[07:49] <bur[n] er> slibs: no
[07:49] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, so is it working? :)
[07:49] <slibs> so only natutilus can do that?
[07:49] <bur[n] er> slibs: only konqueror and nautilus can afaik
[07:49] <slibs> okay
[07:49] <frank23> sexcopter8000m: or try to finc crimsun in this channel. He's the ultimate sound expert
[07:50] <nightswim> what would be the recommended way of telling firefox not to use the totem-plugin for movies
[07:50] <ProN00b> any (maybe apt-gettable) alternative to windows mmorpgs on ubuntu ? ^^
[07:50] <slibs> can you help me getting icons back in nautilus, since im using fluxbox, and they are all disable because of that
[07:50] <erki> i have 2 HDD  on 1.st i have linux and grub and on 2.nd is windows  part. and other partition for stuff.  if i boot from HDD1 how can i go to hdd2 windows?  1 way is to switch booting hdd but is there a easyer way?
[07:50] <slibs> erki: you can boot from hdd2 if you set it up in grub
[07:50] <thrush> erki: why use windows boot mgr at all?
[07:51] <erki> umm
[07:51] <michel> hi
[07:51] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, Planet penguin racer aka tuxracer worked splendid, hasnt woked before, i tried but it laged hell
[07:51] <erki> yes, but how ot set it up
[07:51] <erki> ?
[07:52] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, so everything seems k
[07:52] <spudse> hello, I have a folder and I want to change it chmod to everything to everybody (incl all subfolders and files). How do I do that ?
[07:52] <erki> thrush erki: why use windows boot mgr at all? <- what that means? :D
[07:52] <thrush> erki: the /boot/grub/menu.lst has an example that is commented out you would just need to change the partition info
[07:52] <Mattias> PatrikJohansson, nice :)
[07:52] <bur[n] er> radeon 7000 and linux just don't match well
[07:52] <thrush> erki: what is your windows partition?
[07:52] <barosl> what program can read ape music file or cut ape by cue sheet?
[07:53] <erki> umm hdd2 part.
[07:53] <erki> 1
[07:53] <barongas> Anyone know Anything about randr the xorg resize and rotate extensions? Cause I don't but I need serious help with it cause I can't even resize my screen resolution.
[07:53] <tommi^> Hi. How to convert text files from dos to unix format?
[07:53] <bur[n] er> barongas: many things can read ape... the cutting, i dunno  audacity?
[07:53] <bur[n] er> tommi^: open file, save
[07:53] <mohkohn> What packages do I need to use an iriver t30 under ubuntu?
[07:53] <tommi^> bur[n] er, multiple files with console?
[07:54] <bur[n] er> mohkohn: isn't the iriver t30 just shown on the desktop as a drive letter to drag & drop to?
[07:54] <bur[n] er> tommi^: got me, i can do one at a time ;)
[07:54] <mohkohn> Its not appearing on the desktop. bur[n] er
[07:54] <erki> ok, theres ROOT (hdNUMBER,NUMBER) what are those numbers? first is hdd right? but second?
[07:54] <bur[n] er> mohkohn: in windows, does it show up as a drive letter?
[07:54] <barongas> bur[n] er, Many things can read ape? Sorry I don't get it. For some reason the randr extension is missing on my xorg display.
[07:55] <mohkohn> lsusb Bus 004 Device 004: ID 4102:1119 iRiver, Ltd.
[07:55] <thrush> erki: ok in grub hdb1 would be hd(1,0), just type sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst, then look for windows entry thats commented out and add it to bottom of the file
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson_> What command will tell me my IP address so that I may ssh into my system from another computer?
[07:55] <tommi^> bur[n] er, heh.. I remember that there was program called dos2unix or something years ago and now that I would need it, I can't find it.
[07:55] <mohkohn> I don't have windows on this laptop
[07:55] <bur[n] er> barongas: i meant barosl
[07:55] <erki> ok
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> erki,  partition #
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> HaroldJohnson,  'ifconfig' can do that
[07:55] <barongas> bur[n] er, Ahh, ok
[07:55] <admin_> how can i install mplayer?
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson_> Dr_Willis, thank you
[07:56] <admin_> its not in apt-get
[07:56] <admin_> ?
[07:56] <erki> hmm ok ill try
[07:56] <pepper> hi how can i instal skype
[07:56] <barosl> bur[n] er, thanks
[07:56] <erki> savedefault
[07:56] <erki> makeactive
[07:56] <erki> chainloader	+1 are those3 needed?
[07:56] <admin_> pepper go to their webiste and download it
[07:56] <erki> for windows
[07:56] <exhale> How do I install ATI graphics drivers in Breezy?
[07:56] <thrush> erki: yes
[07:56] <pepper> yes but  he dosn't work
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[07:57] (ompaul/#ubuntu) Swearingen, it does
[07:57] (erki/#ubuntu) what was the command to see my hdds and partits.?
[07:57] (Swearingen/#ubuntu) ompaul: I don't see it in my package lists
[07:57] (admin_/#ubuntu) how can i install mplayer? Its not in apt
[07:58] (ompaul/#ubuntu) Swearingen, enable universe
[07:58] (thrush/#ubuntu) erki: sudo fdisk -l
[07:58] (HaroldJohnson_/#ubuntu) Dr_Willis, Do you know which command turn ssh server on?
[07:58] (ompaul/#ubuntu) !tell Swearingen about repos
[07:58] (erki/#ubuntu) ty
[07:58] (Dr_Willis/#ubuntu) - /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:58] (Dr_Willis/#ubuntu) or similer.
[07:58] (thrush/#ubuntu) erki: grub starts at 0 not 1 so a linux hda1 would be hd0,0 in grub
[07:58] (HaroldJohnson_/#ubuntu) Dr_Willis, Thanks!  Really appreciate it!
[07:58] (Whistler/#ubuntu) how can i install mplayer? Its not in apt
[07:59] (Swearingen/#ubuntu) ompaul: thanks!
[07:59] (erki/#ubuntu) oh
[07:59] <nava> i installed the Kubuntu desktop package....and no wi can use gnome or KDE....but now when im in GNOME i have all the programs for KDE in the gnome menu, an dthey have no icons.....how can i remove all the KDE apps from the gnome menu?
[07:59] (erki/#ubuntu) and windows 1,0?
[07:59] <ompaul> !tell Whistler about mplayer
[07:59] <PatrikJohansson> mattias, what games do you have up and running??
[07:59] <thrush> when you fdisk -l what is the win partition called?
[07:59] <HaroldJohnson_> Dr_Willis, So 'echo /etc/init.d/ssh start' >> fstab would make this start each time I ran Ubuntu?
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> nava,  good luck on that one. :P
[07:59] <thrush> erki:
[07:59] <nava> haha
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> HaroldJohnson,  the Fstab has NOTHING to do with this
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> HaroldJohnson,  so thats about as Wrong as you can get.
[08:00] <HaroldJohnson_> Dr_Willis, Okay.  Just guessing.
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> ssh should start at boot time anyway
[08:00] <HaroldJohnson_> Dr_Willis, Wanted to set up my Ubuntu Server to always start up ssh.
[08:00] <lsuactiafner> HaroldJohnson_ : do that and you will fsck your system up so bad i'll quietly laugh about it every night before bed
[08:00] <Riddell> nava: if programs are installed they will appear in the menu
[08:00] <HaroldJohnson_> lsuactiafner, LOL
[08:00] <HaroldJohnson_> lsuactiafner, Hey, why am I laughing?!?
[08:00] <HaroldJohnson_> Dr_Willis, Thanks
[08:00] <nava> i just wanna use gnome apps when im in gnome...and kde apps when im in KDE
[08:01] <lsuactiafner> haroldjon : chmod +x /etc/init.d/ssh
[08:01] <ompaul> nava, I'm not stopping you
[08:01] <nava> hehe
[08:01] <HaroldJohnson_> lsuactiafner, Yeah right
[08:01] <Whistler> is mplayer romved from repositories?
[08:01] <PatrikJohansson> lsuactiafner :P
[08:01] <Whistler> removed?
[08:01] <erki> well i guess (hd1,0) whould work?
[08:01] <qt2> err, is there a simple way to record /dev/dsp to an mp3?
[08:01] <lsuactiafner> HaroldJohnson_ : seriously
[08:01] <ompaul> Whistler, was it not where I told you?
[08:02] <HaroldJohnson_> lsuactiafner, Come on!  You want me to make it executable?
[08:02] <thrush> erki: windows is showing as hdb1 when u fdisk -l?
[08:02] <lsuactiafner> yes
[08:02] <mohkohn> Ubuntu picks up my usbstick no problem. It just won't detect the iriver T30
[08:02] <Whistler> ompaul i have added needen repos and there is no mplayer in there
[08:02] <j0rd> still downloading the ubuntu iso right now, going to use it for the first time at this new job.  How well does ubuntu linux work with the *box window managers?
[08:02] <lsuactiafner> HaroldJohnson_ : then it will start on bootup
[08:02] <erki> yes
[08:02] <mohkohn> And I can see it staring at me in lsusb
[08:02] <petteri> hi
[08:02] <lsuactiafner> HaroldJohnson_ : if you dont want it to start -x it
[08:02] <thrush> erki: should work
[08:02] <erki> hmm
[08:02] <erki> how can i speak like you ? to someone?
[08:03] <ompaul> Whistler, tell me have you multiverse enabled?
[08:03] <erki> you write name before?
[08:03] <UtterNutter> I have 5 mplayer's which one should I install ?
[08:03] <titanium> anyone know why i'm getting "server not installed or nx access disabled" with freenx? clean install of ubuntu, installed freenx from Seveas's binaries, can't connect from a windows computer.
[08:03] <frank23> mohkohn: is the iriver t30 supposed to act as a usb drive? If not, you probably need a special driver that may or may not exist for linux
[08:03] <thrush> start typing name hit tab, or just type out name:
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> titanium,  it is running the freenx service? check the logs to verify its not starting then exiting?
[08:03] <lsuactiafner> HaroldJohnson_ should get the award for the > n00b ever..
[08:03] <Whistler> ompaul yep
[08:03] <ompaul> Whistler, I doubt it
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> titanium,  try connecting to the machine from the localhost. see if its working that way.
[08:04] <HaroldJohnson_> lsuactiafner, Thanks for the award...and the help...I think
[08:04] <ompaul> Whistler, search for mplayer-386 or which ever version you want
[08:04] <erki> ok off to restart
[08:04] <erki> thanks for help
[08:04] <Whistler> ompaul just a sec ill show you my sources.list
[08:04] <mohkohn> Not sure. frank23. Every linux magazine says iriver because they have oggvorbis
[08:04] <thrush> erki: good luck ;)
[08:04] <HaroldJohnson_> lsuactiafner, Seriously, thanks...for nothing
[08:04] <erki> ill be back :D
[08:05] <titanium> Dr_Willis: how do i connect from the unix machine itself
[08:05] <ompaul> Whistler, you know the rules paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:05] <HaroldJohnson_> lsuactiafner, No really - thank you
[08:05] <HaroldJohnson_> lsuactiafner, for messing up my system!
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> titanium,  put in 127.0.0.1 as the ip to connect to.
[08:05] <HaroldJohnson_> lsuactiafner, No I mean it: Thanks
[08:05] <titanium> Dr_Willis: yes, in what application?
[08:05] <Whistler> ompaul http://pastebin.com/404279
[08:05] <lsuactiafner> HaroldJohnson_ : wth?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> titanium,  whatever your freenx client is.
[08:06] <HaroldJohnson_> lsuactiafner, for laughing at me in bed
[08:06] <titanium> i don't have an nx client on the ubuntu box because i need to connect from windows to it
[08:06] <HaroldJohnson_> lsuactiafner, Just like your mom and I we're laughing over you in bed last night
[08:06] <HaroldJohnson_> lsuactiafner, LOL
[08:06] <HaroldJohnson_> lsuactiafner, :)
[08:06] <Whistler> ompaul are my sources ok?
[08:07] <ompaul> Whistler, okay now put that nice little word on a line that is not disabled - i.e. the one with universe
[08:07] <ompaul> Whistler, # is disable but you don't want to enable the disabled lines
[08:07] <Genchev> Guys, do u know the mail of the website of ubuntu designer ? I need to ask him a question ;)
[08:07] <jconcepcion> anyone have any evolution tips
[08:07] <Whistler> ompaul i dont understand what do you want me to do
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> titanium,  perhaps get one to test this out with then.  gotta start testing somewhere.
[08:08] <HaroldJohnson_> lsuactiafner, Dude, I'm so tired of my Ubuntu installs taking so long.  This must be my 20th install attempt of Ubuntu over the past year...it's because I'm installing on a very old Mac - a Powerbook G3 - and I always run into problems.
[08:08] <jconcepcion> make it faster
[08:08] <exhale> how do i set the root password?
[08:08] <erki> hi again
[08:08] <ompaul> Whistler, you add the word multiverse to the end of the line with universe in it
[08:08] <canindya> exhale: use sudo
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> exhale,  type  !root for info from the bot.
[08:08] <jconcepcion> exhale, sudo -s -H will put you in as root
[08:08] <jconcepcion> passwd
[08:08] <exhale> !root
[08:08] <ubotu> hmm... root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:08] <idleo> !root
[08:08] <exhale> there was some command, settpw root or something
[08:08] <Whistler> ompaul like this deb http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse ?
[08:08] <titanium> Dr_Willis: well, is the nx user supposed to have a password?
[08:08] <exhale> wich let you set the root pw
[08:09] <ompaul> Whistler, yes
[08:09] <alton> ctc anyone?????
[08:09] <erki> thrush: it says "<win root>/system32/hal.dll please install a copy of tis file
[08:09] <Whistler> ompaul k thx
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> titanium,   i though any user could 'nx' in..  not sure.. proberly configurable.
[08:09] <erki> should it be there or do i do something wrong?
[08:09] <thrush> erki: was windows running fine before?
[08:09] <exhale> !ati
[08:09] <ubotu> from memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:09] <erki> um
[08:09] <ompaul> exhale, the same way as change any users password, however you do not need root on Ubuntu, the sudo command looks after all that
[08:10] <thrush> erki: or is it new install on win
[08:10] <erki> it never rinned from grub i ised to switch boot HDD from BIOS but thats annoying
[08:10] <exhale> I want to set the root password thats all
[08:10] <exhale> I need to login and change a few things
[08:10] <erki> first was WIN on hdd2 and then ubuntu on hd1
[08:10] <exhale> nm i found out how, sudo passwd root
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> exhale,  :P
[08:10] <ompaul> exhale, you do not need root, :-) what do you want to change and I can show you the way it is done in ubuntu so you can talk the same language as all other ubuntu users
[08:10] <Blissex> exhale: it is on the Wiki... Or just do 'sudo passwd root'
[08:11] <jconcepcion> exhale, you could also just use the sudo -s -H
[08:11] <thrush> erki: it was working by switching HDs?
[08:11] <exhale> I wanted to set permissions for a HD
[08:11] <jconcepcion> that will put you in as root
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> the #1 question on ubuntu  :P  To Root or Not to Root.
[08:11] <erki> yes
[08:11] <exhale> I have no idea how to do that from the terminal
[08:11] <thrush> erki: did you add the chainloader entry?
[08:12] <erki> trush: then it just went to windows no ubuntu
[08:12] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i appear to have lost my wastebasket on my desktop... how can I get it back?
[08:12] <erki> yes its there
[08:12] <erki> +1
[08:12] <mohkohn> I will be so pissed off if I have to put windows back on my computer
[08:12] <ompaul> exhale, so the command you were going to run you stick sudo in front of it and if it does not parse then you do this sudo 'long command with many arguements'
[08:12] <exhale> i dont know how to change permissions for a drive or folder from the terminal
[08:12] <ompaul> mohkohn, what is your question?
[08:12] <exhale> so i have to login as root in gnome and do that
[08:12] <frank23> mohkohn: well if others use linux with that mp3 player, it should be possible to setup
[08:13] <Communist_FireFo> Hello all
[08:13] <jconcepcion> exhale, no, you can log in as a normal user
[08:13] <Communist_FireFo> *Hey
[08:13] <jconcepcion> exhale, then do sudo -s -H
[08:13] <mohkohn> iriver t30. I have googled and can't find a set of instructions
[08:13] <ompaul> exhale, that makes no sense - if gnome is asking you for a passwrod it is your own password
[08:13] <jconcepcion> set your permissions
[08:13] <thrush> erki: try switching the harddrive boot order in your bios to the other one and see if win will boot normally..wouldnt think itd be a grub prob...
[08:13] <jconcepcion> exhale, exit
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> GDM wont allow root login's anyway i think.
[08:13] <jconcepcion> exhale, your done
[08:13] <mohkohn> I can see it in my lsusb
[08:13] <exhale> it does makes a hell of a lot of sense actually
[08:13] <thrush> erki: just to make sure its still working
[08:14] <exhale> anyway brb
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> what permissions on a hard drive are you changeing anyway?
[08:14] <Communist_FireFo> Can I ask a question?
[08:14] <mohkohn> The ubuntu forums have plenty of questions about it but no answers
[08:14] <ompaul> 42
[08:14] <ompaul> !tell Communist_FireFo about ask
[08:14] <erki> trush: ok, ill try.. tho it worked like 20min ago. i think something is wrong with 0-s and 1-s .. ok i try
[08:15] <marlijs> does anyone has ATI Radeon X550 video card working on breezy?
[08:16] <marlijs> How can I change default application to open mp3 files?
[08:16] <exhale> they blocked root from logging in in breezy -.-
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> exhale,  youmean at the X login screen?
[08:17] <exhale> yup, gdm
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> exhale,  i said that earlier. :P
[08:17] <ompaul> marlijs, right click on the file, go to the line marked open with other application
[08:17] <mohkohn> I found this on a german forum mount -t vfat /dev/sdX /mnt/iriver
[08:17] <exhale> it worked in hoary ;__;
[08:17] <exhale> is there a way around that?
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> exhale,  what are you needing to change so badly anyway?
[08:17] <marlijs> ompaul, it doesnt work
[08:18] <exhale> I want to access my other partition
[08:18] <exhale> but I cant because im not root
[08:18] <barongas> I'm not quite sure what sound I should choose, esd, oss or alsa. I'm looking for one where I can allow several programs/games access sound drivers without having to kill or otherwise fiddle between apps
[08:18] <HiddenFly> exhale: if you need the root shell, sudo -s -H
[08:18] <mohkohn> How do I find out what the X is?
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> exhale,  so you want to edit the fstab? or mount it some how? or what. is it a ntfs partition?
[08:18] <johns^> or modify fstab
[08:18] <ompaul> marlijs, then try properties "open with"
[08:18] <ProN00b> exhale, always work as root, i mean its your computer
[08:18] <exhale> Dr_Willis,  yea its an ntfs partition
[08:18] <exhale> ProN00b,  ehm no I dont want to be logged in as root always
[08:18] <ompaul> !tell exhale about ntfs
[08:19] <ProN00b> but root is cool
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> exhale,  edit your fstab  and make it mount how you want. or read that bot msg. :P
[08:19] <HiddenFly> ProN00b: i wouldnt work as root, only when i need root access
[08:19] <ProN00b> lolz
[08:19] <HiddenFly> much better security that way
[08:19] <marlijs> ompaul, I want to mp3 be opened with xmms by default
[08:19] <exhale> for crying out loud i just want to change the permissions
[08:19] <exhale> thats what root is for
[08:19] <Matrice64_> hi
[08:19] <johns^> exhale: edit /etc/fstab
[08:19] <ProN00b> well, exhale, you know you can't write on ntfs, or at least shouldn't
[08:19] <HiddenFly> exhale: you can just sudo command too
[08:19] <ompaul> exhale, ubotu told you how to do that ntfs thing - go for it
[08:19] <poimen> hi
[08:19] <exhale> ProN00b, yes I dont want to write just read
[08:19] <poimen> I have a rpoblem
[08:19] <ProN00b> fstab should show permissions and stuff
[08:20] <Matrice64_> this room is really busy
[08:20] <exhale> ompaul, its already mounted
[08:20] <exhale> i just want to access it
[08:20] <poimen> I migrated from kubuntu to ubuntu
[08:20] <exhale> thats all
[08:20] <exhale> nothing more nothing less
[08:20] <poimen> with a fresh install
[08:20] <HiddenFly> ProN00b: linux can be able to write to ntfs, there are ways to do it, some better, and some worse
[08:20] <ompaul> exhale, cd /mount/name
[08:20] <apokryphos> poimen: sounds like you're devolving ;-) </troll>
[08:20] <exhale> I want to browse it with nautilus
[08:20] <exhale> gee..
[08:20] <poimen> and U can not hear 2 programs sound aoutputs at the same time ;(
[08:20] <HiddenFly> just do some googling and think what you do
[08:20] <ProN00b> HiddenFly, it is cetainly able to, but have you ever heard of the word "stable"
[08:20] <erki> trush: windws is fine, and this system32 is on 1.st partiton of hdd2
[08:20] <sexcopter8000m> ok this may sound silly, but i installed kubuntu through synaptic, and definitely prefer gnome. can i just uninstall kubuntu?
[08:20] <erki> and theres that dll too
[08:21] <HiddenFly> ProN00b: "some better, and some worse"
[08:21] <poimen> I am tring to hear skype and ut2004 at the same time
[08:21] <dyno> hi all, does someone use jack with ubuntu?
[08:21] <poimen> I tried with skype and totem and the same thing :(
[08:21] <johns^> exhale: change 'defaults' to 'ro,umask=0' in fstab
[08:21] <ProN00b> HiddenFly...
[08:21] <poimen> what can I do it is posible to hear 2 things at the same time in linux?
[08:21] <marlijs> does anyone has ATI Radeon X550 video card working on breezy?
[08:21] <HiddenFly> ProN00b: yes?
[08:22] <exhale> Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/fstab" -- using "application/*"
[08:22] <exhale> Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
[08:22] <ProN00b> the devs will have a reason to not enable it by default...
[08:22] <exhale> :/ thats what happens when i try edit /etc/fstab
[08:22] <ompaul> marlijs, is the word add under that "open with" tab when you right click and choose "properties" (assumption your running breezy but should not be impacting)
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> exhale,  use the terminal man. :P
[08:22] <ProN00b> exhale, wth, did you try gedit /etc/fstab ?
[08:22] <exhale> I am using the terminal
[08:22] <exhale> lol
[08:22] <mohkohn> Any German speakers here tonight who can look at this? http://www.linux-community.de/Neues/story?storyid=17745
[08:22] <dyno> for fstab you can use defaults it works
[08:22] <exhale> Uknown id: gedit
[08:23] <ompaul> !tell mohkohn about de
[08:23] <exhale> nm
[08:23] <thrush> erki: dunno never had that problem with grub
[08:23] <HiddenFly> ProN00b: i know, did you notice that i said that theres some better and some worse ways to do it? that means, that its not possibly stable, or might not be anywhere near stable
[08:23] <ompaul> exhale, that is not a terminal
[08:23] <malorye> lu
[08:23] <dyno> no one use jack with ubuntu?
[08:23] <mohkohn> Thanks
[08:23] <ProN00b> lol, exhalt, apt-get install nano, then nano /etc/fstab
[08:23] <exhale> shure is
[08:23] <erki> i guess the problem is with 2 drives..
[08:23] <HiddenFly> please think when you read something and type after that
[08:23] <ompaul> !tell malorye about lu
[08:23] <El_Che> nano -w
[08:23] <El_Che> not just nano
[08:23] <erki> trush: ok, np thanks anyways
[08:23] <exhale> i'll rather use gedit thx though
[08:23] <malorye> salut
[08:24] <erki> trush: can you tell me one good player for viedos/movies?
[08:24] <ProN00b> HiddenFly, it strangely meant something different to my ears
[08:24] <malorye> ijiio ii uj  yu hh y h
[08:24] <HiddenFly> whatever
[08:24] <exhale> So what was i supposed to change in fstab?
[08:24] <johns^> the linen with your windows partitions
[08:24] <johns^> lines
[08:24] <marlijs> omplau, as I said this thing doesn't work, you can try by yourself
[08:25] <thrush> erki: try www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_haldll_missing.htm
[08:25] <johns^> exhale: again: replace 'defaults' in the ntfs lines with 'ro,umask=0
[08:25] <ompaul> marlijs, are you using breezy?
[08:25] <ProN00b> mohkohn, the text says the person is not even using ubuntu (suse is not a real os)
[08:25] <johns^> without the '
[08:25] <erki> k
[08:25] <thrush> erki: vlc or mplayer, vlc is less hassle
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> anyone here familiar with the qc-usb driver?
[08:25] <ProN00b> any acceptable solution for new mov formats ?
[08:26] <exhale> i still dont have permission to access it
[08:26] <exhale> i just wish i could login as root to do it but oh no
[08:26] <Communist_FireFo> I am very interested in Ubuntu Linux; in fact I ordered a bunch of cd's five days before Breezy came out.  The questions I have are this and I do not mean to be a hassle to you all, but here we go; 1.) Although I have done research on Ubuntu for some time - I have heard through the forums that breezy's final release ISO does not recognize nvidia graphics cards. Would the pressed CD version would be able to recognize all of my har
[08:26] <johns^> did you remount the partition?
[08:26] <ProN00b> exhale, do you remount it after you changed permissions ?
[08:26] <exhale> nope
[08:26] <johns^> so do that
[08:26] <johns^> after that, give root a password
[08:26] <exhale> this is fucking hilarous
[08:26] <exhale> -.-
[08:27] <johns^> and change the gdm settings with gdmsetup
[08:27] <adam_> what is exhale?
[08:27] <johns^> no exhale. it's called security
[08:27] <ompaul> exhale, you have been told how do things you insist on your "wrong" way well sorry but the world does not function like that --- and your language needs to be minded
[08:27] <ProN00b> Communist_FireFo, your nvidia card will work, and after installing you can apt-get install nvidia or something to even activate 3d acceleration
[08:27] <marlijs> omplau, yes
[08:27] <erki> trush: well i could get my windows to hdd1 then it would be easyer i think..
[08:27] <exhale> how is it the wrong way?
[08:27] <exhale> every other distro allows the use of root
[08:27] <adam_> i have tried that i think PRON but i still cant get tv out
[08:27] <johns^> so does ubuntu
[08:28] <Zuiden> can you access the repositories of Breezy online to be able to download ndiswrapper first?
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> exhale,  the other disrtos can let you do it this way also.
[08:28] <Zuiden> ndiswrapper package*
[08:28] <johns^> and a lot of distro's don't allow root to log in with gdm
[08:28] <exhale> I dont understand why they have to make it more complicated
[08:28] <thrush> erki: u use windows for games?  if not maybe just run in vmware
[08:28] <ProN00b> exhale, ubuntu does, as i said i am working as root (and starting all network processes as nobody ^^)
[08:28] <mythtv> hi all
[08:28] <topyli> exhale: it's wrong on other distros just as well. i never used root on mandrake or debian
[08:28] <poimen> apokryphos Hum???
[08:28] <mythtv> how can I check if my infrared is working on my computer?
[08:28] <crimsun> exhale: Ubuntu, by default (and if you use the simple installer), configures sudo as a security measure. You're still free to set a root password via sudo -s ; passwd
[08:28] <exhale> crimsun,  i know
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> exhale,  how about this. you kill the GDM service.. get to the console.. Login as root and use 'startx' OR edit the gdm config and let root login. IF you set up a root password.
[08:29] <ProN00b> -_-
[08:29] <exhale> im a new linux user
[08:29] <johns^> besides that, when you use a computer, you shouldn't work as root
[08:29] <crimsun> exhale: this is no more complicated than choosing the expert install option and setting a root password via the installer.
[08:29] <exhale> not quite shure how to do that
[08:29] <johns^> only when you're adminning
[08:29] <ProN00b> sudo -s, exhale
[08:29] <adam_> has anyone had any expierience with using an external hard drive that is formated for HFS+?
[08:29] <ompaul> exhale, you were told to use a terminal  - click on applications accessories and terminal - but you know so much no one bothered to tell you that before - and while I am at it you can then issue command lines - like lets see "sudo -i" and have a root prompt but hey if you did gksudo gedit it might help
[08:29] <poimen> I am getting mad with this problem with my sound can someone help me with this ??
[08:29] <ProN00b> than set a root pass, then you can su root
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[08:30] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:30] <adam_> im talking about HFS+ the mac file system btw
[08:30] <exhale> I understandeda bout 50 percent of that
[08:31] <exhale> understanded*
[08:31] <BockBilbo> byee
[08:31] <adam_> !HFS+
[08:31] <ubotu> adam_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[08:31] <adam_> !HFS
[08:31] <ubotu> adam_: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:31] <adam_> ?
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> you cut and paste about 4 commands.. and the ntfs drives show up under /media/
[08:32] <adam_> are you talking to me dr willis
[08:32] <triXter|zzz> i cant get my Broadcom nic working
[08:32] <Gwildor> hey guys.......does sudo su no longer work?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> no to exhale  :P
[08:32] <adam_> ah
[08:32] <erki> trush: my brother plays on XP.. i have tried to install vlc but i never found it anywhere
[08:32] <exhale> Dr_Willis,  as I already said the partition is there
[08:32] <triXter> and my onboard sound on a dell dimension 5100
[08:32] <exhale> I dont have access, THATS the problem
[08:32] <exhale> now i enabled gdm to allow root so now i dont have to be arsed around doing complicated stuff when i can just login as root and do it in 5 secunds
[08:33] <exhale> so bye
[08:33] <triXter> anyone?
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> i wonder HOW hes going to do it as root from X anyway
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> I dont know of any tools/way to doo it.
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> Gwildor,  i think its more of a "I know a lot.. just not a whole lot" kinda issue.
[08:34] <ompaul> Dr_Willis, because he will then use a gui tool to do it - and then when it breaks he will want us all to help him
[08:34] <thrush> erki: open up a terminal and type sudo apt-cache search vlc
[08:34] <thrush> erki: does it find it?
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> ompaul,  what tool? :P ive not seen any that can change permissions like that.
[08:34] <thrush> erki: well no sudo needed
[08:34] <level_5> anyone here using Crossover Office? Need some help getting it to run with Wine
[08:34] <erki> trush: found something
[08:34] <adam_> if anyone can help me with my troubles with my external HD that is formatted as HFS+ plz send me a message. it crashed everytime i transfer files from the HD to the comp but is file the other way around
[08:35] <thrush> erki: you should just have to type sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:35] <adam_> *it is fine
[08:35] <ompaul> Dr_Willis, he wants to play with fstab does he not, 777 its not a case of permissions but hey he knows more than anyone here and can define the issue so well :-/
[08:35] <erki> ok
[08:35] <erki> installing
[08:35] <johns^> level_5: crossover office s wine. more or less
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> ompaul,  yea. aparelty he thinks he can change the permissions on a mount point the same as ya do a normal file.
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> ompaul,  but he never asked about what he wanted to do speficicially.
[08:36] <ProN00b> why isn't prozilla in apt anymore ?!
[08:36] <ompaul> Dr_Willis, enough clock cycles have been wasted on him  :-)
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:36] <adam_> why isnt azureus in synaptic??
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> ompaul,  but now he will go rant about how us 'ubuntu' guys are mean.
[08:37] <erki> trush: it installed i guess.. last line was "Setting up wxvlc (0.8.1-1ubuntu7) ...
[08:37] <erki> erki@ubuntu:~$
[08:37] <erki> "
[08:37] <ProN00b> because azureus is dependant on java and java is evil and ungnu
[08:37] <tomasz> hi - where can I find the list of local security mirrors - I keep failing the security update from the main one ... (?)
[08:37] <adam_> oh
[08:37] <mirak> ProN00b: it works with gcj
[08:37] <apokryphos> adam_: it's in the hoary-extras repo still I believe
[08:37] <thrush> erki: divx and mp3s you will need to goto https://wiki.ubuntu.com not on ubuntu I dunno the new package names you might need
[08:37] <thrush> erki: but you should be able to type vlc in term and it will open
[08:37] <erki> for mp3 i use XMMS
[08:38] <ProN00b> good to know, why isn't it in apt then, mirak ?
[08:38] <PatrikJohansson> does anyone have any experience with steam through wine??
[08:38] <erki> oh ok i try
[08:38] <level_5> anyone here using Crossover Office?
[08:38] <apokryphos> erki: why?
[08:38] <ompaul> Dr_Willis, how many hours have I done here :-) I think when someone actually tests my patients then they were trolling and I had to count to ten with him
[08:38] <erki> cuz it works :D
[08:38] <thrush> erki: yes but non vlc stuff you might have issues
[08:38] <mirak> ProN00b: it's not working fine. In fact I tried on powerpc
[08:38] <erki> kk it looks like vlc started
[08:38] <apokryphos> erki: seems like a bad reason, considering there's infinitely superior apps out there that work too ;-)
[08:38] <erki> ill try if it plays
[08:38] <erki> ok :D
[08:38] <mirak> ProN00b: you can give it a shot maybe it's just me
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> ompaul,  :P does ProN00b  count? :P
[08:38] <adam_> ill check that out sometime. right now im trying to figure out why my ubuntu completetly freezes up whenever i transfer files from my HFS+ formated HD to the comp
[08:38] <erki> ill try some later if im 1337 enough to install things
[08:38] <ProN00b> humm, i got evil java, mirak
[08:39] <ProN00b> ^^
[08:39] <mirak> ProN00b: I think it works but I tried it trough Freenx and there is probably bugs
[08:39] <adam_> anyone?
[08:39] <apokryphos> erki: I recommend amarok or juk -- amazing players.
[08:39] <apokryphos> erki: both in the repos
[08:39] <LasseL> !ati
[08:39] <ubotu> [ati]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:39] <erki> ok
[08:39] <erki> yay vlc rocks
[08:39] <erki> thanks alot
[08:40] <ompaul> java is not evil, it is in fact much worse than that
[08:40] <adam_> hmm i dont know what to do, no one responded to my posts in the forums and i cant find help on the issue ANYWHERE
[08:40] <ProN00b> so anyone knows about prozilla (or does anyone know an alternative to it (paralel fetching from multiple servers)
[08:40] <ompaul> I just don't have a word for that
[08:40] <thrush> erki: np
[08:40] <level_5> anyone here got experience w/ Crossover Office?
[08:40] <ProN00b> anyone know a good download manager ?
[08:41] <level_5> ProN00b, you mean for files?
[08:41] <ProN00b> yes, level_5
[08:41] <canindya> ProN00b: d4x
[08:42] <level_5> ProN00b, how bout gtk-gnutella
[08:42] <madsen> How can I prevent the mousedriver from loading when plugging in my wacom tablet? (It b0rks it.)
[08:43] <ColonelKernel> im putting together a script with options for my quickcam.ko - the script is /etc/modules.d/quickcam - I dont know the alias for it, but it will modprobe and work fine, and it loads up automatically fine - i just want to define the options for it
[08:43] <ProN00b> level_5, http/ftp
[08:44] <barongas> Is there a way to revert to a basic installation? Like removing all packages except the ones in ubuntu-desktop? Without the disk that is...
[08:44] <ColonelKernel> I know what the options are that I want to use but I dont know the proper alias for quickcam, so my /etc/modules.d/quickcam script doesnt work
[08:44] <ColonelKernel> or do I have to run update-modules or something
[08:45] <EvilX|Toshiba> Hey, I found a great xbox 360 emulator that runs only in linux!
[08:45] <madsen> barongas: You could probably do something with 'apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop' and "dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'}"...
[08:46] <PatrikJohansson> evilx|toshiba... any games to it??
[08:46] <madsen> barongas: But I'm not sure how well it'll work.
[08:46] <EvilX|Toshiba> PatrikJohansson, Penguin360
[08:46] <Zuiden> where can i find a repository that i can download the ndiswrapper package so i can install it offline on the ubuntu machine?
[08:47] <ompaul> madsen, try logging in as yourself and running  "bonobo-slay --help" then you can make good choices
[08:47] <EvilX|Toshiba> PatrikJohansson, thats just the name.
[08:47] <[matrim] > hey, I have some problem with my charset fr swedish keyboard
[08:47] <PatrikJohansson> evilx|toshiba, were can i find it??
[08:47] <madsen> ompaul: Huh?
[08:48] <EvilX|Toshiba> It only runs on AMD k6's though.
[08:48] <Philze> hi
[08:48] <[Parse_Error] > hi
[08:48] <madsen> ompaul: Oh, the "gnome hangs" thingy?
[08:48] <Philze> Is it possible that one of you experts can help a newbie with installing ati drivers?
[08:48] <Zuiden> <- has an amd k6 850
[08:48] <ompaul> madsen, ctrl+alt+f1 and log in and use sudo when you want to kill processes - and to get back ctrl+ alt +f7 or ctrl-alt-backspace to restart gnome
[08:48] <Zuiden> :)
[08:49] <PatrikJohansson> evilx|toshiba, what is that??
[08:49] <madsen> ompaul: Yeah, I know how to do that. :) (I'm not new to Linux - just sorta new to Ubuntu... Breezy at least.)
[08:49] <Gwildor> spanglesontoast, ubuntu now?
[08:49] <EvilX|Toshiba> Yea!
[08:49] <EvilX|Toshiba> Trator
[08:49] <spanglesontoast> nopers
[08:49] <spanglesontoast> :(
[08:49] <EvilX|Toshiba> :D
[08:49] <Philze> could anyone help with installing ati drivers?
[08:49] <spanglesontoast> still stuck on doze
[08:49] <madsen> ompaul: But thanks, I'll take a look at it. :)
[08:49] <ColonelKernel> in my /etc/modules.d/quickcam all I have is options quickcam adaptive=0 equalize=0 keepsettings=1 -- is this all I need to have in here to aply these settings when the kernel module loads - both when it autoloads on boot and if I modprobe it manually?
[08:49] <EvilX|Toshiba> Busted
[08:50] <ompaul> madsen, well I was not to know :-)
[08:50] <crimsun> Philze: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:50] <spanglesontoast> wondering what this voyager 105 usb
[08:50] <madsen> ompaul: I know. :)
[08:50] <spanglesontoast> will actually work
[08:50] <Gwildor> spanglesontoast, give me a url as to what you are talking about
[08:50] <ompaul> madsen, the powers of deduction :-))))))))
[08:50] <Ramah> I've heard of the xbox360 emu its floating around on irc there is a leaked 360 tech demo out there as well
[08:50] <level_5> Anybody here using Crossover Office
[08:50] <madsen> ompaul: hehe
[08:50] <spanglesontoast> basically theres a adsl usb modem
[08:50] <spanglesontoast> and it won't detect on breezy
[08:50] <Gwildor> ahh, ok
[08:50] <korio> !ntfs
[08:50] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:50] <Philze> crimson>thanks
[08:51] <[matrim] > anyone know of the charsets
[08:51] <Gwildor> spanglesontoast, no way to hook up via ethernet?
[08:51] <EvilX|Toshiba> Ramah, yes there is. I've seen it a few days ago.
[08:51] <[matrim] > it's set to UTF-8 and I can't user swe special chars
[08:51] <madsen> spanglesontoast: Tried with the usbnet module? (Works for a friend of mine.)
[08:51] <[matrim] > !charset
[08:51] <ubotu> [matrim] : Are you on ritalin?
[08:51] <corincole> hey, if i have just set up mysql on ubuntu linux, how do i setup root password?
[08:51] <spanglesontoast> haven't got ethernet anymore
[08:51] <corincole> its something in the command-line, cant remember what...
[08:51] <spanglesontoast> well how do I get it working with this usb modem
[08:52] <pieter> kan iemand mij uitleggen hoe dhcp te starten  bij boot?
[08:52] <bluefrog-10> mysqladmin -u root password "yournewpassword"
[08:52] <sexcopter8000m> hey crimsun, can you help me with a sound problem? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81445
[08:52] <Gwildor> spanglesontoast, anymore????
[08:52] <spanglesontoast> nope
[08:52] <spanglesontoast> sister's bf ran off router
[08:52] <erki> how to create shortcut of "MOUNTED WINDOWS DIRECTORY" to  desktop?
[08:52] <madsen> [matrim] : perhaps "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"?
[08:53] <[matrim] > thanks madsen, think I fixed it though'
[08:53] <Gwildor> spanglesontoast, are you connecting to one via ethernet, and trying to connect another using the USB?...did you cunsult the manual?
[08:53] <pieter> somebody knows how to start dhcp server on boot?
[08:53] <spanglesontoast> it's only a win and mac modem
[08:53] <Validdot> When I try to setup my Canon printer, on ubuntus breezy, it always crahes after select and enable the ppd file which sould work proper with this printer (is marked as works mostely)
[08:53] <spanglesontoast> was wondering if there was drivers
[08:53] <spanglesontoast> as someone said there was
[08:53] <madsen> erki: Ctrl-Shift-drag n' drop it. :)
[08:53] <mirak> is there a way to remove the ARROW on nautilus folders for the symlinks ?
[08:54] <pickett> be impressed biatches - http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/6043/screenshot5qr.png
[08:54] <Validdot> +does someone know about this problem and got time to help?
[08:54] <johns^> pickett: a fairly basic gnome desktop
[08:54] <johns^> so?
[08:55] <erki> ty madsen
[08:55] <MenZa`> hi all :)
[08:55] <madsen> erki: np :)
[08:55] <madsen> pickett: Be impressed? About what?
[08:55] <ProN00b> how do they always do that memory monitor thingys, grml, i never find out how
[08:55] <pickett> this is not the response i was expecting
[08:56] <johns^> :)
[08:56] <Zuiden> alright i have a pci ethernet card that i need to ndiswrapperto get the work, however i  need the card to connect to my network.  i do have a machine hooked up to the network with a usb drive that i can put the ndiswrapper package on....i just need to know if there is an online repository that i can download the ndiswrapper package
[08:56] <ProN00b> yeah, pickett, its pretty lame
[08:56] <johns^> pickett: nice clean desktop
[08:56] <mirak> is there a way to not have an arrow on the icon of symlinked folders in nautilus ?
[08:56] <johns^> not spectacular, but nice
[08:56] <madsen> pickett: Well, then you should try to explain what's so cool about it...
[08:56] <madsen> mirak: I don't think so...
[08:56] <ProN00b> Zuiden, buy a new card for 8bucks
[08:56] <DanglyBits> is there an easy way to get both 32 bit firefox and 32 bit flash working in Ubuntu x86_64 ?
[08:56] <mirak> madsen: that's windowish
[08:56] <korio> !ntfs
[08:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:57] <ProN00b> i know its not the haxxor way, but sometimes hardware just needs to be quality, Zuiden...
[08:57] <madsen> mirak: Ok...
[08:57] <digits> if i want to try ubuntu i can just download a live cd, but can i use it to install ubuntu with later on?
[08:57] <bluefrog-10> Zuiden, ndiswrapper is in breezy cd...
[08:57] <Zuiden> is it?
[08:57] <johns^> digits: no
[08:57] <mirak> madsen: I mean that's the kind of things you want linux to be able to do
[08:57] <dash> digits: the install disk is a different CD, i believe
[08:57] <mirak> ...
[08:57] <madsen> spanglesontoast: Again, did you try usbnet.
[08:57] <ProN00b> can Anyone tell me how to get a cute cpu/memory monitor thingy ?
[08:57] <digits> ok, thanks
[08:57] <dash> I have a printer connected to my Breezy box and I want windows machines on my network to be able to print to it
[08:57] <johns^> gdeskletts?
[08:57] <pickett> gdesklets
[08:57] <Zuiden> bluefrog-10: i know it wasn't back in hoary
[08:58] <spanglesontoast> what is usbnet?
[08:58] <dash> is there a howto for setting that up?
[08:58] <digits> thought that i'd be lazy and just download on cd ;P
[08:58] <madsen> mirak: Ok... Well, the real difference is that if you really want it changed, then you can just change the source of nautilus...
[08:58] <madsen> mirak: That's the difference!
[08:58] <johns^> dash: you need samba
[08:58] <ProN00b> pickett, is it apt-gettable, can you tell me the package name ?
[08:58] <Validdot> Could someone please help me with the always crashing foomatic-gui? I didn't find something about that problem..
[08:58] <dash> ProN00b: there's the  gnome "system monitor" applet
[08:58] <Zuiden> search synaptic pronoob
[08:58] <pickett> search synaptic for gdesklets
[08:58] <bluefrog-10> Zuiden, so what's your problem?
[08:58] <dash> ProN00b: rightclick on your panel, click add
[08:58] <pickett> if it's not there you need some more repo sources
[08:58] <korio> im trying to mount an ntfs partition
[08:59] <dash> johns^: yeah, i know. any config stuff I need to hit after that?
[08:59] <korio> its already on the desktop but i cant open it
[08:59] <spanglesontoast> where can I grab usbnet
[08:59] <Zuiden> bluefrog-10: well my card is kinda generic i got for cheap and i don't have an internet connection to connect to the internet to download ndiswrapper
[08:59] <madsen> pickett: http://lillesvin.net/stuff/better_screenshot.png <- There's something I find pleasing to look at. ;)
[09:00] <bluefrog-10> Zuiden, u have hoary then not breezy?
[09:00] <Zuiden> bluefrog-10: and last time i tried ubuntu was on hoary and it didn't have ndiswrapper
[09:00] <korio> ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[09:00] <korio> where in /etc/fstab do i insert this?
[09:00] <Zuiden> bluefrog-10: well i downloading breezy right now
[09:00] <bluefrog-10> Zuiden, ndiswrapper is in breezy cd...
[09:00] <Tomcat_> madsen: Gentoo?
[09:00] <pickett> i need my desktop dark, white hurts my eyes
[09:00] <Zuiden> alrighty
[09:00] <spanglesontoast> :(
[09:00] <Zuiden> thnks
[09:00] <madsen> Hmm, no one knows how to stop mousedev from taking control when I insert my Vacom?
[09:00] <madsen> Tomcat_: Hoary actually, I think.
[09:00] <cevizoglu> I'm having trouble with pptpconfig.  When I try to connect, it connects without error, sets up the routing tables, and completes without any errors.  But on the terminal glibc reports a double-free.  Ping from that point fails, and it drops the connection but displays still connected.  I have to reboot or network responsiveness on the machine is 1/5th what it should be.  Should I file a bug, or am I missing something?
[09:01] <Tomcat_> madsen: Eh, just saw that I'm in #ubuntu here... :P the software for that effect is buggy in hoary. :\
[09:01] <julie_> When I play DVD's in xine the picture is not smoth and it has shadows. What can I do?
[09:01] <madsen> Tomcat_: Yeah, but I was willing to take the chance. :)
[09:01] <madsen> Tomcat_: drop-shadows is soooo nice. :)
[09:02] <frank23> julie_: did you enable DMA on your drive?
[09:02] <Tomcat_> madsen: Yeah I tried it too for a while, it looks so awesome... but the bugs are unbearable. :I
[09:02] <madsen> Tomcat_: Indeed... I ended up with it switched off too. :-/
[09:02] <graig> hey, is there a way i can install windows on a second harddrive, and then put the startup thing in grub so i can easily boot it to windows?
[09:02] <julie_> frank23> no howto?(newbie)
[09:02] <frank23> !dma
[09:02] <madsen> Tomcat_: But hey, at least we _can_ do it now. :)
[09:02] <Tomcat_> :>
[09:03] <frank23> julie_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[09:03] <ProN00b> oh oh oh, i got a question, how do i change the brown ubuntu logo that shows when the system loads (breezy) ?
[09:04] <julie_> frank23>thanx. I check it out now
[09:04] <bjron> hey, anyone know where the lockfile for apt-get/update-notifier is?
[09:04] <UnnurStella> Hello there.
[09:04] <cosimo321> hello all
[09:04] <cosimo321> anyone here switch to polypaudio?
[09:04] <johns^> ProN00b: download some splashscreens
[09:04] <UnnurStella> Was wondering if anyone was willing to assist me a bit with installing Ubuntu?
[09:04] <johns^> and gtweakui
[09:05] <cosimo321> installing what 's ths the problem?
[09:05] <ProN00b> huh, johns^ ?
[09:05] <bluefrog-10> UnnurStella, what's the deal?
[09:06] <johns^> ah ProN00b, you mean when booting
[09:06] <ProN00b> yes
[09:06] <johns^> not after you logged into gnome
[09:06] <johns^> ah, don't know then
[09:06] <cosimo321> UnnurStella what is the problem?
[09:06] <UnnurStella> Well, when booting up from the installation cd, everything seems to work correctly. I press "enter" to start the install process and then it just stops on the "initializing Kernel" thingie...
[09:06] <UnnurStella> Doesn't get further than that.
[09:06] <UnnurStella> Is it supposed to take ages to get past that stage?
[09:06] <cosimo321> are you installing on a new hard drive?
[09:06] <graig> is there any way i can run world of warcraft in ubuntu?
[09:06] <bluefrog-10> UnnurStella, have you checked the md5 sum after downloading your iso?
[09:07] <frank23> graig: cedega can world of warcraft
[09:07] <UnnurStella> Well, I made a new 15GB partition on which I installed Fedora. . . it didn't work so I was going to have Ubuntu "reformat" that partition and install itself there.
[09:07] <UnnurStella> Never got that far though.
[09:07] <cosimo321> how log did it hang there?
[09:07] <cosimo321> long
[09:07] <mohkohn> Just tried this: sudo ifp firmupdate /usr/local/src/T30_MTP.HEX
[09:07] <mohkohn> iRiver iFP device not found.
[09:07] <mohkohn> Note: Please check USB connection.
[09:07] <UnnurStella> bluefrog-10, where/how can I do that?
[09:07] <ProN00b> anyone know how to change the breezy bootlogo ?
[09:08] <bluefrog-10> UnnurStella, you're on windows right now?
[09:08] <mohkohn> Yet the device is there: Bus 001 Device 010: ID 4102:1119 iRiver, Ltd.
[09:08] <UnnurStella> cosimo321, well. . . somewhere about 10minutes I think.
[09:08] <UnnurStella> bluefrog-10, yes.
[09:08] <UnnurStella> winxp pro.
[09:08] <madsen> For the love of Gawd, somebody please tell me how to prevent a driver (mousedev) from taking control over my tablet, when I plug it in.
[09:08] <cosimo321> system preferences administration logon screen
[09:09] <graig> madsen,
[09:09] <bluefrog-10> UnnurStella, google and look for "md5 and windows" you will find a page that's telling you how to do. Now Fedora didn't want to be installed as well?
[09:09] <cosimo321> has anyone switched to polypaudio?
[09:09] <graig> you change the driver of the mouse from, mouse to mouse0.
[09:09] <Tomcat_> madsen: You can put it into the hotplug blacklist, but I'm not sure if that won't cause further errors.
[09:09] <UnnurStella> bluefrog-10, Fedora installed fine but it seems to dislike my graphic card since it just loads into a spiffy colour screen when I try starting it up.
[09:09] <korio> How do i change so that i can read my ntfs partition as a regular user?
[09:10] <madsen> Tomcat_: Yeah, I need to, like, blacklist it for that single device only.
[09:10] <cosimo321> polypaudio anyone?
[09:10] <tgwj> what's that ?
[09:10] <dmk> example, /dev/hda1      /media/windows   ntfs user,noauto,umask=0002     0       0
[09:10] <adam_> Hello. I just now got my tv out to work correctly with my nvidia card. What I dont know how to do is display a video file in vlc on the tv and not the computer. i click fullscreen and it always fullscreens on the comp
[09:10] <cosimo321> polypaudio replaces esound
[09:10] <bluefrog-10> UnnurStella, http://www.irnis.net/gloss/md5sum-windows.shtml
[09:10] <[A] ndy80> 002
[09:10] <adam_> this must be simple?
[09:10] <korio> dmk i tried that but it didnt do anything
[09:10] <[A] ndy80> not 0002
[09:10] <korio> i might have inserted it wrong
[09:11] <madsen> Tomcat_: But blacklisting will only prevent the module from loading when I plug in the tablet, right? Not from taking control if it's already loaded... Or did I get that wrong?
[09:11] <tgwj> i think alsa replaces esound enough nowadays
[09:11] <cosimo321> no alsa stays polyp is addition
[09:11] <graig> madsen, is the mouse interfering with the tablet?
[09:11] <tgwj> but why add polyp ? what extra features does it bring ?
[09:11] <madsen> graig: No, the driver is... When mousedev takes control it b0rks the pressure sensitivity. :-/
[09:11] <crimsun> tgwj: alsa's independent of both esound and polypaudio
[09:12] <cosimo321> lower latency
[09:12] <cosimo321> better sound quality
[09:12] <dreaminofyou> good evening everybody
[09:12] <madsen> cosimo321: Tried jackd?
[09:12] <korio> >.<
[09:12] <cosimo321> I just installed it and with one setting change it seems to work better than default sound
[09:12] <tgwj> i know alsa's independant. but why are esd and polypaudio used at all
[09:12] <adam_> does anyone know how to display video in full screen on a 2nd display using vlc? surely this is a simple thing to do?
[09:12] <korio> how do i change my ntfs partition to allow a regular user to read it? describe in an easy way please
[09:12] <madsen> tgwj: If you want sound from more than one source at the time...
[09:12] <dmk> korio, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[09:12] <cosimo321> vlc is ok in ubuntu but totem-xine is better
[09:12] <tgwj> madsen alsa supports that
[09:12] <bluefrog-10> UnnurStella, or best http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html
[09:13] <korio> thats for hoary
[09:13] <dreaminofyou> I have a problem with mysql server.Is there anybody can help me?
[09:13] <bluefrog-10> dreaminofyou, what pb?
[09:13] <cosimo321> one source with polypaudio using alsa as mixer
[09:13] <madsen> tgwj: Really? It must suck noodles, 'cause apparently nobody recommends that...
[09:13] <korio> nm
[09:13] <dreaminofyou> can you speak italian?
[09:13] <adam_> yeah, totem DOES work fullscreen, but for some reason this file only plays w/ vlc
[09:13] <madsen> tgwj: Everyone making music on linux recommends jackd.
[09:13] <cosimo321> polyp is trying to replace esound in gnome
[09:13] <cosimo321> they may do it
[09:13] <cosimo321> it is better
[09:13] <bluefrog-10> dreaminofyou, not that much, can try to understand though..
[09:13] <adam_> AND i like vlc
[09:14] <ompaul> how do I turn off IPV6 totally
[09:14] <zyga> hello
[09:14] <zyga> I've got a SANE problem
[09:14] <tgwj> jackd is probably better, but alsa dmix is better (or at least faste) than esd
[09:14] <cosimo321> I love vlc but after all the inlucion of libs etc, totem-xine plays dvds etc at full screen any way
[09:14] <zyga> I've got an old snapscan e25 scanner that requires a custom firmware to work
[09:14] <zyga> the scanner only seems to be functional when run by root
[09:14] <tgwj> fedora has it activated by default and i've been using it for a while on ubuntu and debian
[09:14] <adam_> totem-xine is different from the standard totem i am guessing?
[09:14] <dmk> find /etc/modutils/aliases
[09:14] <dreaminofyou> after installing mysql-server-4.1 I try to start deamon mysqld but this deamon don't start
[09:14] <zyga> is there any way to scan from gimp this way?
[09:15] <madsen> zyga: are you in the "scanner" group?
[09:15] <dmk> look for # alias net-pf-10 off # IPv6
[09:15] <graig> msg madsen http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24149
[09:15] <zyga> madsen: checking
[09:15] <adriyel__> adam_ the totem xine package merely allows/makes totem use the xine codecs/background stuffs
[09:15] <dmk> remove the #
[09:15] <cosimo321> yes totem-xine  is different than totem
[09:15] <zyga> madsen: yes
[09:15] <dmk> run sudo update-modules
[09:15] <zyga> madsen: the scanner connects via usb
[09:15] <zyga> madsen: it was working as a non-root user in hoary
[09:15] <cosimo321> can you p;lay dvds now?
[09:15] <madsen> zyga: Hmm, sorry then. :-/ That was my best bet.
[09:15] <zyga> okay, thanks
[09:15] <adam_> havent tried that yet
[09:15] <dmk> you could also remove support from kernel if you like, but its easier to have it a disable it
[09:16] <madsen> tgwj: I haven't tried dmix so I wouldn't know... Is it as widely supported as esd?
[09:16] <adam_> but ill look into all of this, i think now i know what to try and learn
[09:16] <crimsun> dmk: no. Do not touch modutils; it's deprecated. You should look at /etc/modprobe.d/aliases instead.
[09:16] <UnnurStella> bluefrog-10: Got no errors.
[09:16] <tgwj> madsen every app that supports alsa supports dmix. and most apps support alsa nowadays. and there's alsa-oss
[09:17] <bluefrog-10> UnnurStella, no solution for u then. there's no reason. usb cdrom?
[09:17] <dreaminofyou> is there anybody speak italian?
[09:17] <dmk> crimsun, Doh!
[09:17] <adam_> oh! one more thing... every program that I open by default is opened on the 2nd display. its kinda annoying
[09:17] <tgwj> i think it's just not very widely known... only requires a little config file to activate
[09:17] <UnnurStella> No, just my laptop cdrom.
[09:17] <cosimo321> parle italiano poco
[09:17] <madsen> tgwj: Oh, sounds nice then. :)
[09:17] <bluefrog-10> dreaminofyou, ubuntu-it
[09:17] <adam_> quien puede hablar espanol?
[09:18] <adam_> estoy estudiando
[09:18] <cosimo321> has everyone been able to get dvd's and midi to play on breezy?
[09:18] <roby_> go to #ubuntu-it
[09:18] <UnnurStella> So, no ideas from anyone then? :)
[09:18] <tgwj> hmmm never managed midi ever on linux
[09:19] <cosimo321> unnurstella the problem is it hangs with the kernel install?
[09:19] <tgwj> haven't really tried much...
[09:19] <madsen> UnnurStella: What was the problem?
[09:19] <bluefrog-10> UnnurStella, if its' a cdrom player pb u can avoid it by installing directly from your HDD
[09:19] <cosimo321> I got midi working fine be with you in a minute
[09:19] <UnnurStella> madsen, ubuntu installation freezes when initializing the kernel.
[09:19] <Ofe> !fi
[09:19] <ubotu> I heard fi is "Suomalaiset: Suomea puhutaan kanavalla #ubuntu-fi"
[09:19] <roby_> hi! can anyone help me with this bug? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10579
[09:20] <roby_> does anyone how do downgrade xorg to 6.8.1
[09:20] <madsen> UnnurStella: Oh, sorry then. Don't know anything about that. :(
[09:20] <roby_> it could be a solution
[09:20] <UnnurStella> ;)
[09:20] <roby_> the same bug in fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=152648 seems solved
[09:20] <cosimo321> UnnurStella, what is the problem again sorry
[09:20] <roby_> it is the radeon 7000 bug on xorg
[09:20] <TG__> i'm trying to autogen.sh a project i've made with glade, but it keeps telling me i need glib. the problem is that there are lots of glib packages in synaptic. what one should i get?
[09:20] <UnnurStella> cosimo321, ubuntu installation freezes when initializing the kernel.
[09:20] <cevizoglu> roby_, apt-get remove the package, then install the different version with dpkg maybe
[09:21] <cosimo321> ok is this being installed on a new hardrive?
[09:21] <mohkohn> Don't buy an iRiver T30 if you want it to work with linux
[09:21] <zyga> madsen: I've got a strace output
[09:21] <roby_> ok, I can remove it
[09:21] <UnnurStella> cosimo321, I made a new 15GB partition which I installed Fedora on. . . Fedora is having problems so I was going to try and have Ubuntu "reformat" the partition and install itself there. Never got that far though.
[09:21] <zyga> madsen: I'll check which files it tried to open as root
[09:21] <lan> Question: When running Ubuntu 5.10 do both the tx and rx lights on a Belkin54g Network Wireless Card are on.  On Windows one used to flicker...any ideas ??
[09:22] <roby_> but how does it work the different version thing?
[09:22] <madsen> zyga: Oh! Clever! :)
[09:22] <cosimo321> UnnerStella  you need to low format that hardrive to get rid of everything
[09:22] <cevizoglu> roby_, keep in mind what you're trying to do could make you lose your GUI if something goes wrong
[09:22] <madsen> cosimo321: What difference should that make?
[09:22] <cosimo321>  regardless of what others say a clean install of any OS is ablolutely neccessary
[09:22] <Davey> cosimo321, I disagree
[09:22] <bozel> anybody knowes, where the kdevelop-icons are saved?
[09:22] <cevizoglu> roby_, you would manually install the different version with dpkg
[09:22] <cosimo321> can't disagree
[09:22] <madsen> cosimo321: I disagree too...
[09:23] <UnnurStella> cosimo321, but I'm not up to the point of actually choosing which HD to install it on so why should it freeze?
[09:23] <cosimo321> it is the only way to be sure that the problems that arise are not from any lefteovers on the drive
[09:23] <madsen> UnnurStella: Are you sure the cd is ok?
[09:23] <roby_> how that command works?
[09:24] <cosimo321> First low format, then try to install again this will tell you if it is the cd or not
[09:24] <cosimo321> however, you can always download the image again and burn it with nero
[09:24] <cevizoglu> roby_, dpkg -i yourpackage.deb      <- will install that .deb file
[09:24] <cosimo321> still I have installed ubuntu around ten times now on a used hard drive, I have had it freeze if I don't low format
[09:24] <madsen> cosimo321: Well, it stalls before interacting with the hard drive - so again, what difference should that make?
[09:25] <cosimo321> all os send tests out to the system during  install
[09:25] <cosimo321> if it detects anything unusual it will freeze
[09:25] <roby_> a ok thank you
[09:25] <roby_> I hope it will solve the bug
[09:26] <cosimo321> try a new image
[09:26] <cosimo321> I strongly suggest a low format, a new image and try again
[09:26] <madsen> cosimo321: No, it won't freeze, that's the exception... It might report an error... I'm _pretty_ sure low-level formatting of the hard drive will do nothing.
[09:26] <zyga> madsen: the diff of root vs non-root is about 3000 lines
[09:26] <cevizoglu> roby_: what you're trying will be very hard, though... just a word of caution
[09:26] <zyga> darn, I'll check open-only
[09:26] <madsen> zyga: Ouch...
[09:26] <roby_> yep I know
[09:26] <cosimo321> wrong it can and does freeze at times where have you been?
[09:26] <UnnurStella> madsen, I tried that checksum verifier. . . worked fine.
[09:26] <madsen> zyga: Try doing a 'grep ^open <file>' on the files.
[09:26] <roby_> but it is a bug that freezes my gui so I don't have choice
[09:26] <dmk> is it a desktop or laptop? sorry if this has been asked
[09:27] <madsen> UnnurStella: Hmm... Weird...
[09:27] <cosimo321> you can get ffree lowformat ustiltiy for IDE drive at seagate.com
[09:27] <zyga> madsen: I did ... okay I've got the result
[09:27] <madsen> zyga: I mean, 'grep ^open <file> > <output file>' on the traces and then diff those two instead...
[09:27] <zyga> --- as-non-root--open.txt       2005-10-24 21:25:18.000000000 +0200
[09:27] <zyga> +++ as-root--open.txt   2005-10-24 21:25:09.000000000 +0200
[09:27] <i-x> hello
[09:27] <zyga> -open("/proc/bus/usb/004/001", O_RDWR)   = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[09:27] <zyga> -open("/proc/bus/usb/004/001", O_RDONLY) = 6
[09:27] <zyga> -open("/proc/bus/usb/004/001", O_RDWR)   = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[09:28] <zyga> hmm
[09:28] <zyga> strange
[09:28] <i-x> i've got a little bit of a problem
[09:28] <i-x> I'm running Ubuntu with KDE. 50% of all avi files get like black/white, greycolor with red stripes over it... anyone who have a clue what's wrong?
[09:28] <apokryphos> zyga: do NOT paste in here
[09:28] <madsen> zyga: Arg! Don't paste here. :) Use pastebin.com or paste.ubuntulinux.nl :)
[09:28] <i-x> i've tried google for it, but can't find any pages that relate to my problem
[09:28] <zyga> (sorry)
[09:28] <UnnurStella> cosimo321, I only have 1 HD which is split into 3 partitions. Won't low level formatting a partition mess up the rest?
[09:28] <cosimo321> what do you have on the partitions?
[09:29] <madsen> zyga: Anyways, what does 'ls -l /proc/bus/usb/004/001' say?
[09:29] <madsen> zyga: I just want the permissions. :)
[09:29] <UnnurStella> 1st has winxp. . . 2nd has errr. . . "backups" and the 3rd should have linux.
[09:29] <PatrikJohansson> does anyone have any experience with steam through wine??
[09:29] <cosimo321> Ah then NO you can't low format
[09:29] <zyga> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3565
[09:29] <madsen> UnnurStella: "backups" = pr0n? :-p
[09:29] <zyga> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 43 2005-10-24 21:17 /proc/bus/usb/004/001
[09:29] <zyga> root only
[09:30] <UnnurStella> madsen, no. . . something similar though.... :)
[09:30] <cosimo321> UnerStella do you by any chance Ghost or somother imaging app
[09:30] <jthigpen> this should be an easy one, (configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH)...
[09:30] <crimsun> install build-essential
[09:30] <zyga> madsen: shouldn't that be more like group=usb?
[09:30] <madsen> zyga: Hmm, then it might be a bug in the script that sets up that device... Maybe you can change it somewhere in the conf-files for hotplug.
[09:30] <PatrikJohansson> unnurstella: i guess .... warez :P
[09:30] <UnnurStella> cosimo321, no. . . I also detest long solutions to a simple problem *sigh*
[09:31] <cosimo321> Oh Ok then I amy not be the p erson for you
[09:31] <zyga> madsen: where to start?
[09:31] <madsen> zyga: I think it should be root:scanner but I'm not sure..
[09:31] <jthigpen> it might be because I have more than one compiler in /usr/bin...?
[09:31] <madsen> zyga: I don't have a clue about that - I'm trying to figure out something similar myself. :-/
[09:31] <John_Mallan> how do you activate USB support?
[09:31] <crimsun> jthigpen: did you install build-essential?
[09:31] <UnnurStella> cosimo321, you really think that removing the Fedora installation with a low-level format will make Ubuntu stop freezing?
[09:31] <zyga> madsen: thanks I'll ask in -devel
[09:31] <dmk> UnnurStella, is this a desktop? or laptop?
[09:32] <tadej> helloo... sorry, but i am new..can u help me to install drivers for ATI card, i think they are called fglrx?
[09:32] <madsen> zyga: Oh, good idea. I should perhaps do that too. :)
[09:32] <madsen> UnnurStella: I think not...
[09:32] <cevizoglu> !tell tadej about ati
[09:32] <jthigpen> /usr/bin/gcc-4.0, and /usr/bin/powerpc-linux-gnu-gcc-4.0
[09:32] <UnnurStella> dmk, laptop. . . I've told you 3 times already in PM's ;)
[09:32] <PatrikJohansson> tadej, i can i just installed them myselg :P
[09:32] <dmk> UnnurStella, strange I have not seen any replies
[09:32] <tadej> i have ati radeon 9100
[09:32] <Myrtti> UnnurStella: unregged cannot send PMs
[09:32] <dmk> UnnurStella, just my questions
[09:32] <i-x> please... somebody... help me
[09:32] <Myrtti> have you registered your nick
[09:32] <jthigpen> crimsun, i don't think so
[09:32] <dmk> have you tried booting with noapic, etc
[09:33] <UnnurStella> Ahhh, I'm not registered. . . that explains it.
[09:33] <UnnurStella> noapic?
[09:33] <adriyel__> ahem, dmk and UnnurStella note:  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer.
[09:33] <adriyel__> this is #ubuntu-unregged, therefore most people present are unregistered
[09:33] <UnnurStella> adriyel__, yeah. . . just noticed.
[09:33] <John_Mallan> hey, i'm new to this stuff, how do you activate USB support in Ubuntu?
[09:33] <PatrikJohansson> first you have to install  the "xorg-driver-fglrx" packet, either ny running "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" or by using synaptic
[09:33] <dmk> there are various parameters you can pass when you boot the ubuntu installer
[09:33] <crimsun> John_Mallan: it's activated on boot.
[09:34] <Myrtti> adriyel__: it is?
[09:34] <UnnurStella> dmk, I know. . . I tried disabling someking of usb check since I read that it might stop the installation. Didn't work.
[09:34] <UnnurStella> *somekind...
[09:34] <zyga> madsen: applying correct group manually worked
[09:34] <zyga> madsen: I'll try to find the hotplug script later - now I need to scan something :)
[09:34] <John_Mallan> well my Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra aint getting recognised by Gnomad2, any ideas why?
[09:35] <madsen> zyga: Nice! But I think it'll change back next time the device is initialized. :-/
[09:35] <zyga> madsen: it will, I know
[09:35] <bluefrog-10> UnnurStella, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows
[09:35] <chris__> puertorico190
[09:35] <madsen> zyga: Ok. :)
[09:35] <PatrikJohansson> tadej, then you have to change in /etc/X11/xorg.conf   were it says  "Driver		"yourdriver" " to  "Driver		"fglrx""
[09:35] <madsen> zyga: Well, nice that it works for now at least. :)
[09:35] <jthigpen> thanks crimsun
[09:35] <PatrikJohansson> tadej then just restart x or reboot
[09:36] <zyga> madsen: yeah :-)
[09:36] <zyga> strace to the rescue :>
[09:36] <UnnurStella> Maybe someone else can tell me, at the current time when I start up my computer a Fedora menu opens up and asks me if I want to load Fedora or Windows. How can I get rid of that so my comp doesn't think I have 3 OS's when I'm done with installing Ubuntu?
[09:36] <UnnurStella> dmk, what does noapic do?
[09:36] <chris__> sup
[09:36] <adriyel__> UnnurStella, are you interesting in removing fedora?
[09:36] <ColonelKernel> lol
[09:37] <UnnurStella> adriyel__ yeah, didn't work for me so I have to get rid of it :D
[09:37] <ColonelKernel> adriyel__, not a bad idea
[09:37] <chris__> loser
[09:37] <jthigpen> oops "configure: error: gdbm.h not found... try --with-gdbm-includes=dir"
[09:37] <dougsko> hey guys
[09:37] <adriyel__> UnnurStella, just delete the partitions that fedora is located on, and have Breezy create new partitions from the free space created.
[09:37] <adriyel__> ColonelKernel, agreed.
[09:37] <John_Mallan> usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted
[09:37] <John_Mallan>        how do i sort that error out? thanks if you can help
[09:37] <jthigpen> trying to build mt-daapd
[09:37] <UnnurStella> adriyel__ but what about the boot sequence thing?
[09:38] <PatrikJohansson> tadej, hows i going??
[09:38] <chris__> i dont now
[09:38] <UnnurStella> I mean, won't the boot instructions still say that Fedora is still in there?
[09:38] <adriyel__> UnnurStella, have Ubuntu install the masterboot record, and it'll overwrite the grub created by fedora with its own
[09:38] <adriyel__> install TO the mbr, that is
[09:38] <chris__> yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
[09:39] <UnnurStella> Ahh... ok. But it won't mess up my windows installation right?
[09:39] <vbgun1> hello everyone, I cannot start Rhythmbox... I select it and a window pops up on the taskbar stating "starting Rhythmbox" *but* it never starts. It seems to just exit. If I start it with "gksudo rhythmbox" it starts up but it doesn't start up for me... anyone know how? This has also happened before with vmware whereas it would only start up under gksudo... Anyone know why this might happen and how to fix it?
[09:39] <chris__> so
[09:39] <PatrikJohansson> chris__ do you have any questions regarding ubuntu??
[09:40] <dougsko> has anyone figured out the whole webcam freezing your box issue?
[09:40] <chris__> hulllllllllllllllllllllllll
[09:40] <misfit_toy> dougsko, my webcam doesn't freeze here
[09:40] <John_Mallan> does anyone know how to sort this error out "usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted
[09:40] <John_Mallan> "?
[09:40] <chris__> my computer is breaking down
[09:40] <vbgun1> I got it... I opened up the system monitor and just killed the Rhythmbox process "there were about 8 of them" and that seemed to solve it...
[09:40] <dougsko> misfit_toy: did you do anything special to get it working?
[09:41] <misfit_toy> dougsko, nope
[09:41] <adriyel__> I love helping people here. :)
[09:41] <chris__> help
[09:41] <chris__> please
[09:41] <misfit_toy> dougsko, I do recall seeing a post about using VL42 instead of VL4 for some webcams.
[09:41] <DanglyBits> is there an easy way to get both 32 bit firefox and 32 bit flash working in Ubuntu x86_64 ?
[09:41] <madsen> How do I find that 0xNNNN number for an usb device (like those listed in /etc/hotplug/usb.handmap)?
[09:41] <chris__> i dont no
[09:41] <PatrikJohansson> adriyel__ , people love when your helping them here!! :P
[09:42] <chris__> nerds
[09:42] <dougsko> misfit_toy: ok, ill take a look at that
[09:42] <_jason> chris__:  do you have a question?
[09:42] <chris__> noooooooooooooooooo
[09:42] <madsen> chris__: Well, you just found a channel full of them... What's your question?
[09:42] <adriyel__> PatrikJohansson, Ubuntu community in general is just a lot less hostile than what I've encountered in the past
[09:42] <chris__> nnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooo
[09:42] <vbgun1> chris__: I learned that when you have a question, instead of just stating you have a question, just ask it :)
[09:42] <chris__> nnnnno\
[09:43] <adriyel__> vbgun1, generally more efficient, yes.
[09:43] <misfit_toy> dougsko, sorry, meant V4L2 and V4L (video for linux)
[09:43] <chris__> NNNNNNNNNNNnOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[09:43] <PatrikJohansson> adriyel__ , thats the spirit of ubuntu alright :P
[09:43] <adriyel__> methink chris__ has a problem. :|
[09:43] <Compaq> Hi ubuntu people!
[09:43] <Compaq> I have a problem :(
[09:43] <chris__> are you guys nerds
[09:43] <adriyel__> PatrikJohansson, and thats why I run 5.10 and chat here :)
[09:43] <cevizoglu> I don't know about anyone else, but I am
[09:43] <dougsko> misfit_toy: yeah i figured, thanks for the clarification though
[09:43] <adriyel__> chris__, wtf?
[09:44] <jthigpen> hey guys...want to help me get configure working? :D
[09:44] <chris__> yes you are
[09:44] <Compaq> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop with No CD rom and WIFI any chance of success?
[09:44] <John_Mallan> "usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted
[09:44] <John_Mallan> " does anyone know how to fix that error?
[09:44] <chris__> how old are you people
[09:44] <vbgun1> Compaq: you'll need about 900 floppies
[09:44] <mohkohn> Just posted something regarding my iRiver T30 on the ubuntuforums...
[09:44] <PatrikJohansson> chris__, do you have anything valuable to add to the conversation??
[09:44] <mohkohn> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=440353#post440353
[09:44] <cevizoglu> chris__, there are 574 people on here!
[09:44] <stevenr> Using QEMU, is it possible to have two virtual drives loaded (Like a C & D drives)
[09:44] <jthigpen> "configure: error: gdbm.h not found... try --with-gdbm-includes=dir"
[09:44] <chris__> sooooooooooooooo
[09:45] <Compaq> I have access to the windows partition.
[09:45] <Compaq> Can I put the installer there and somehow access it?
[09:45] <adriyel__> Compaq, you want to do a network install?
[09:45] <chris__> fatty
[09:45] <jthigpen> or could you suggest a forum that can help?
[09:45] <Compaq> With a usb wifi card.
[09:45] <jonny> I would like to upgrade from 4.10 to 5.10, but when I download all the packets and reboot, an xserver error comes up and it does not let me use gnome BTW: I tryed by using breezy
[09:45] <misfit_toy> can an admin please nuke that little pest?
[09:45] <mohkohn> Basically it won't find my T30 yet its there in lsusb
[09:45] <PatrikJohansson> jonny, what error??
[09:45] <chris__> loseersssss
[09:45] <adriyel__> Compaq, you must have something to boot from. You can't just run an installer inside Linux, that is against all karma of computers, lol. Seriously though, why don't you have a cd-rom drive?
[09:46] <chris__> nerds
[09:46] <vbgun1> johny: you can try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg at the prompt
[09:46] <chris__> by
[09:46] <cevizoglu> lol
[09:46] <chris__> bye
[09:46] <Compaq> Yea I have a floppy drive.
[09:46] <PatrikJohansson> finally
[09:46] <adriyel__> Compaq, if you are unable to burn cdroms, but have a cdrom drive with which to read, you can order a cd, for FREE, from Ubuntu
[09:46] <jonny> um...it says something like it can not be configured or something like that
[09:46] <Compaq> I can burn DVD's and everything.
[09:46] <adriyel__> umm.
[09:46] <Compaq> I have other systems.
[09:46] <adriyel__> explain to me why this computer doesn't have a cdrom drive again?
[09:47] <Compaq> Because it's an old laptop and didn't come with one?
[09:47] <adriyel__> ah, thats a bugger
[09:47] <adriyel__> hmm.
[09:47] <adriyel__> you're in a very awkward position, any thoughts channel?
[09:47] <Compaq> There is a bootable floppy to do a network install right.
[09:47] <PatrikJohansson> jonny, is it just gnome or cant you use the whole system??
[09:47] <adriyel__> not from Ubuntu, to my knowledge
[09:47] <Compaq> Can I load a usbwifi driver?
[09:48] <adriyel__> there exist such floppies, but ubuntulinux.org doesn't provide them
[09:48] <Compaq> Or an ntfs driver to get the install from another partition?
[09:48] <adriyel__> regretfully, I must work, I am sorry, goodbye
[09:48] <jonny> well...I can use the text-based version fine
[09:48] <Compaq> Thanks for trying
[09:49] <kbrooks> adjacent:
[09:49] <kbrooks> er
[09:49] <kbrooks> adriyel__:
[09:49] <PatrikJohansson> jonny, then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" , what graphicscard do you have??
[09:49] <jonny> internal
[09:49] <vbgun1> anyone know how to tile windows horizontally or vertically or cascade them on the desktop? I miss this feature so much and cannot find it. Is it even available or is something better and I am missing it? I do currently use all my desktops and they're all used up. I need to tile or cascade... is it possible?
[09:49] <thrush> Compaq: might look at just a debian floppy install
[09:49] <kbrooks> http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html # good
[09:49] <Compaq> Sounds about right thrush.
[09:50] <PatrikJohansson> jonny, perhaps try changing the driver do something diffrent....
[09:50] <jonny> um...btw, I re-installed ubuntu because I did not know how to fix it and tried breezy again and it did the same thing
[09:50] <vbgun1> if tiling or cascading windows is unavailable is any way to snap windows to the edge of each other possible?
[09:50] <ompaul> Compaq, go back to sarge or before it so that you are "updating" :-)
[09:51] <jonny> how can I change the driver?
[09:51] <ompaul> Compaq, how big is the drive?
[09:51] <Compaq> 10 gigs.
[09:51] <PatrikJohansson> jonny, by running the command i gave you and just change the part asking for the driver you want to use
[09:51] <jonny> ok Ill try it what should I change it ti
[09:51] <jonny> *to
[09:51] <Compaq> It's currently only 1 windows partition with no bootloader (I.E. big problem) however I can use partition Magic or something else..
[09:51] <John_Mallan> "usb_set_configuration: Operation not" permitted
[09:51] <John_Mallan>  How do you fix this error?
[09:52] <PatrikJohansson> jonny, after you run the command i mean...
[09:52] <jonny> oh, sorry :)
[09:52] <ompaul> Compaq, minimum sarge install change to breezy and dist-upgrade, should be fun :-) and then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop as it is an old machine - exactly how old is it proc & ram?
[09:52] <LinuxMonkey> help.. I got a sound blaster audigy 2 zs and need my microphone to work, im also running the latests ubuntu, anytakers on how to make this work?
[09:52] <PatrikJohansson> jonny, change it to something diffrent, i have an ati card but the ati drivers didnt work for me so i had to use "vesa" at first..
[09:53] <ompaul> LinuxMonkey, iirc you need to start alsamixer and unmute the relevant parts
[09:53] <PatrikJohansson> jonny, so run the command and agree to everything but the driver selection, then choose another driver
[09:54] <LinuxMonkey> ompaul, that wont work, i only have a playback option there
[09:54] <jonny> When I run the command, it says xserver-xorg is not installed
[09:54] <Compaq> Processor is p2 266
[09:54] <Compaq> Memory is 512
[09:54] <Compaq> Runs XP quite smooth so I figure Gnome shouldn't be a problem.
[09:55] <EviLBorF> how can i restart sshd?  I have tried /etc/init.d/sshd restart but it says service not known.
[09:55] <jthigpen> were should i go for mt-daapd build instructions?
[09:55] <sambagirl> how do i start samba? :)
[09:55] <PatrikJohansson> hmmmm, thats a pickle :P ,( the only idea i have is to reinstall ubuntu... but perhaps there is a way to just install xserver-xorg) ask more skilled people :D
[09:55] <pirast> sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[09:55] <sambagirl> i trying to connect to printer on windows machine.
[09:55] <sambagirl> thank you
[09:56] <jonny> PatrickJohnson:were u talking to me?
[09:56] <PatrikJohansson> jonny, yeah sry :)
[09:56] <ompaul> Compaq, well you go enough ram for it but the proc is a little light - start with x-ubuntu, ubuntu-base, gdm that should get something working - but if you want to try gnome I think you would have speed issues with ffox or OOo
[09:56] <LinuxMonkey> anyone else wanna take on my issue? i need my mic recording..alsa mixer only giving me playback options, audigy 2zs sound card
[09:56] <jonny> thats ok
[09:57] <jonny> anyone know how to install xserver-xorg?
[09:57] <sambagirl> how do yuou install samba? is there simple get-apt thing?
[09:57] <EviLBorF> What file do i edit to customize the welcome message when someone logs into ssh?
[09:57] <Compaq> Yea I don't really need a Gui but I'd like one, I might go with those really old or minamilist ones or one of the newer ones that really packs the heat like Englightenment
[09:57] <B_166-ER-X> samba_girl, its even simpler by synaptic
[09:57] <madsen> sambagirl: Yeah, you can do it from synaptic - just install the package 'samba' iirc. :)
[09:57] <B_166-ER-X> sambagirl, its even simpler by synaptic
[09:57] <LinuxMonkey> EviLBorF,  /etc/motd
[09:57] <BooZee> hey, is there a way to flush and clean the dns cache ?
[09:58] <madsen> B_166-ER-X: Heh, I find 'apt-get' the simplest... By far. :)
[09:58] <ompaul> LinuxMonkey, the reason I mentioned that is because in alsamixer a mic is the seventh item
[09:58] <sambagirl> okay
[09:58] <sambagirl> grazie
[09:58] <sambagirl> brb
[09:58] <jonny> who knows how to istall the newest version of F.F. on warty?
[09:58] <ompaul> LinuxMonkey, when you get it sorted will you let me know what it was please
[09:58] <LinuxMonkey> yeah it shows up in playback but i dont get any record sections
[09:58] <chicano> guys am facing a lil problem here, i have 2 boxes running on 1monitor, 1keyboard and 1mouse with a DLink KVM Switch when i switch from the windows box to the ubuntu box the mouse wont move, any ideas about that?
[09:59] <B_166-ER-X> madsen, it depends if your visual or no, i guess, or if you are a noob on Nux and used to windows..    but i think synaptic as its good and less good sides, as do apt-get
[09:59] <EviLBorF> So lets say I wanted it to say Welcome "User".  What variable would I put to change user to whatever login name just logged in?
[09:59] <Enlite> is there a way to do a clean install of breezy over a live ubuntu system? I dont have access to the room the server is in to do off cd
[09:59] <synd_> Trying to boot into Ubuntu install and it freezes after trying to start PCMCIA and "hotplug manager"
[09:59] <LinuxMonkey> anyone else wanna take on my issue? i need my mic recording..alsa mixer only giving me playback options, audigy 2zs sound card
[09:59] <PatrikJohansson> jonny, try "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg" from your command line
[09:59] <synd_> Same thing happens with elivecd0.3
[09:59] <synd_> any help?
[09:59] <madsen> B_166-ER-X: Yeah, you're right. Personally, I've been a terminal-junkie for the last 6 years - so I'm bound to prefer apt-get - but yeah, synaptic has it's upsides, definitely. :)
[10:00] <jonny> ok ill give it a shot
[10:00] <chicano> guys am facing a lil problem here, i have 2 boxes running on 1monitor, 1keyboard and 1mouse with a DLink KVM Switch when i switch from the windows box to the ubuntu box the mouse wont move, any ideas about that?
[10:00] <jonny> can u copy in here?
[10:00] <EviLBorF> LinuxMonkey: So lets say I wanted it to say Welcome "User".  What variable would I put to change user to whatever login name just logged in?
[10:01] <PatrikJohansson> jonny, i usually keep a paper in front of me so things remain if i reboot :P
[10:01] <BooZee> hey, is there a way to flush and clean the dns cache ?
[10:01] <jonny> E: couldn't find package xserver-xorg
[10:02] <Amaranth> jonny: You're sure you're on 5.04 or 5.10?
[10:02] <ompaul> LinuxMonkey, I used the "sound recorder" on the menu and used the mixer and volume app in there to make mic work
[10:02] <jonny> nope:warty
[10:02] <Amaranth> oh, you're on warty
[10:02] <jonny> yup
[10:02] <Amaranth> ok, then why are you messing with an xorg package? It was xfree86 in warty
[10:02] <ompaul> jonny, would you consider breezy?
[10:02] <jonny> that's what sparked this conversation
[10:03] <jonny> when I try, and reboot, an xserver error comes up
[10:03] <PatrikJohansson> jonny, oh sry i thought you were in 5.04 ... :(
[10:03] <chicano> nobody faced the same issue before?
[10:03] <jonny> no prob
[10:03] <alienacion> hi all
[10:04] <alienacion> where can i download netscape ????
[10:04] <concetto_> hi everybody
[10:04] <cyphase> netscape.com is a good try
[10:04] <jonny> should I try that command with xfree 86
[10:04] <chicano> guys am facing a lil problem here, i have 2 boxes running on 1monitor, 1keyboard and 1mouse with a DLink KVM Switch when i switch from the windows box to the ubuntu box the mouse wont move, any ideas about that?
[10:04] <cyphase> :)
[10:04] <cyphase> but it doesn't work on linux
[10:04] <ompaul> alienacion, use mozilla - firefox
[10:04] <concetto_> is there anybody speaking italian?
[10:04] <Compaq> Ok If I was going to install from floppies.
[10:04] <ericf> ciao a tutti!!!!!!
[10:05] <Compaq> What are my options regarding the boot loader keeping in mind I can't access the Bios/
[10:05] <synd_> Trying to boot into Ubuntu install and it freezes after trying to start PCMCIA and "hotplug manager"
[10:05] <ompaul> !tell concetto_ about it
[10:05] <synd_> Same thing happens with elivecd0.3
[10:05] <alumno> !tell alumno about apache
[10:05] <Compaq> Synd.
[10:05] <alienacion> ompaul, i'm using firefox 1.0.6
[10:05] <mfv> hello.  is it possible to reconfigure my monitor settings in Ubuntu?  the System Administration menu only lets me choose one size
[10:05] <darius_> What's the cleanest way to install OpenOffice 2.0 Release on Breezy?
[10:05] <Compaq> Can you disable PCMCIA in your bios?
[10:05] <alienacion> ompaul, but i need netscape
[10:05] <ompaul> for what?
[10:05] <alienacion> ompaul, AutoInstall requires IE3+ or Netscape 4+
[10:05] <cevizoglu> netscape what?
[10:05] <darius_> Is there an Ubuntu package for OpenOffice 2.0 Release or should I just use the install at openoffice.org?
[10:06] <synd_> Compaq: I can try.
[10:06] <ompaul> alienacion, what is autoinstall ?
[10:06] <psymin> alienacion: Opera will identify as IE
[10:06] <BooZee> Is there a cache for all the hostnames the were resolved ??
[10:06] <Compaq> Might be worth a try.
[10:06] <alienacion> ompaul, i need to install awedu
[10:06] <jonny> can I ask a question about ShipIt here?
[10:06] <alumno> How i can to config me apache2 server for can see me web on 127.0.0.1 ?
[10:07] <Compaq> Has anyone done an install from floppies?
[10:07] <mohkohn> How do I tell the ifp-firmware where my iriver device is?
[10:07] <jonny> How can I install games off the Internet
[10:07] <alienacion> for to use chemeet world
[10:08] <cyphase> jonny, you need the internet to install games
[10:08] <cyphase> ;)
[10:08] <escobar5> the codecs??
[10:08] <BooZee> hey, can anybody help me with my networking problems?? i have some problems...
[10:08] <alienacion> i need a 3d browser
[10:08] <escobar5> sorry, hello, i can't play any video, how do i install the codecs?
[10:08] <LinuxMonkey> anyone else wanna take on my issue? i need my mic recording..alsa mixer only giving me playback options, audigy 2zs sound card
[10:08] <jonny> I have the internet, but I do not know how to open the installers after downloading
[10:08] <bluefoxicy> openoffice.org thinks upkeep is a word and upkept isn't
[10:08] <cyphase> i was kidding about that
[10:08] <cyphase> lol
[10:08] <ompaul> alienacion, that is the windows version of netscape - I stuggest a google
[10:09] <cyphase> jonny, what game?
[10:09] <jonny> whats a good game?
[10:09] <alienacion> ompaul, but i don't have windows
[10:09] <ompaul> Compaq, not in a long time, I can't remember the last one - about 95
[10:09] <cyphase> which game are you trying to install?
[10:09] <cevizoglu> Johnny, what is the file's extension?
[10:09] <cyphase> yea, i was about to ask that :)
[10:09] <alienacion> ompaul, can i install it with wine???
[10:09] <cevizoglu> s/Johnny/johnny
[10:09] <_native_> hey i have a prism 2.5 pcmcia do i have to install the linux-wlan-ng driver? it shows up in the networking app without the driver installed
[10:09] <ompaul> alienacion, to run it you run the program through wine and with that browser
[10:10] <jonny> how do i tell
[10:10] <ompaul> alienacion, which also runs through wine
[10:10] <psymin> Anyone installed transcode on hoary?
[10:10] <cyphase> what's the file name?
[10:10] <jonny> ok hold on
[10:10] <xavier_> hello
[10:10] <thrush> psymin: good luck man
[10:10] <escobar5> hello, i can't play any video, how do i install the codecs?
[10:11] <ompaul> alienacion, they say you might, I read their support db article on Linux - so maybe
[10:11] <ompaul> !tell escobar5 about w32codecs
[10:11] <xavier_> pls you have   french adress irc for ubuntu
[10:11] <hyperactivecrond> !fr
[10:11] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[10:11] <ompaul> !fr
[10:11] <cyphase> escobar5, go to System -> Help, then to Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide
[10:11] <hyperactivecrond> :P ompaul
[10:11] <psymin> thrush: Was hoping to find a repository that had everything done .. all tied together and a bow on top =] 
[10:11] <sambagirl> how do you add a network printer? i see the dialog thingy but why it not seeing anything on windows net?
[10:11] <xavier_> thx
[10:11] <cyphase> escobar5, is this breezy?
[10:12] <ompaul> hyperactivecrond, thanks
[10:12] <hyperactivecrond> sambagirl: is it shared by the winbloze client?
[10:12] <sambagirl> how you mean?
[10:12] <alienacion> netscape don't work with wine (i need a new windows version) i'm trying to install awedu with wine
[10:12] <escobar5> cyphase, i don't know what is breezy
[10:12] <synd_> Compaq: I don't think I can disable PCMCIA via the BIOS.
[10:12] <cyphase> escobar5, when did you install ubuntu?
[10:12] <sambagirl> what you saying hyperactiverond?
[10:12] <synd_> Does ubuntu have a failsafe mode?
[10:12] <Compaq> So synd it won't even let you get to the command prompt?
[10:12] <thrush> psymin: transcode was such a headache for me in ubuntu... ended up using a windows machine
[10:13] <synd_> In the LiveCD?
[10:13] <cyphase> better yet, when did you download the installer?
[10:13] <cyphase> jonny, you still there?
[10:13] <sambagirl> hyperactiverond your in cleveland ohio, no? :D
[10:13] <escobar5> cyphase, is the latest version of ubuntu
[10:13] <cyphase> ok
[10:13] <cyphase> then go to System -> Help
[10:13] <jonny> yes
[10:13] <escobar5> ok
[10:13] <_native_> cause i just installed the linux-wlan-ng thinking that i need it anyway and now i cant bring up the card, via ifconfig.
[10:13] <synd_> Compaq: Yeah, I can get to the command prompt with the splash when you *first* boot up the CD. But when it starts doing its thing in the kernel, that's where it freezes
[10:13] <cyphase> then to Ubuntu 5.10 Start Guide
[10:14] <cyphase> jonny, what's the filename?
[10:14] <jonny> epsxe160lin.zip
[10:14] <mirak> hi
[10:14] <escobar5> ok, thank you cyphase
[10:14] <cyphase> jonny, extract it
[10:14] <LinuxMonkey> ok im going crazy not being able to find the captur option for sound for my audigy2
[10:14] <jonny> how?
[10:14] <cyphase> escobar5, np
[10:14] <cyphase> right click
[10:14] <synd_> Compaq: Mind a PM?
[10:14] <jonny> nevermind got it
[10:15] <cyphase> k
[10:15] <mirak> in theory the acceleration of a falling object on earth is the same no matter what mass it is isn't it ? (if we exclude air resistance)
[10:15] <Amaranth> anyone on breezy wanna try out the next version of smeg?
[10:15] <ompaul> LinuxMonkey, I used the "sound recorder" on the menu and used the mixer and volume app in there to make mic work - you try that?
[10:15] <lucas> hi
[10:15] <Amaranth> it's still beta, so i need people to find bugs :)
[10:15] <jonny> ok now what
[10:15] <cyphase> open the folder
[10:15] <lucas> is there a gnome applet to easily switch between network configurations ?
[10:15] <cyphase> that was extracted
[10:15] <LinuxMonkey> ompaul, yeah it still doesnt give me a capture option or record option
[10:16] <Amaranth> http://dev.realistanew.com/alacarte/betas/alacarte_0.8-0ubuntu1_all.deb if anyone wants to try it out
[10:16] <poimen> hi
[10:16] <wajig> hi there. i need a paste of an ubuntu /etc/fstab urgently. can someone help me out?
[10:16] <ompaul> LinuxMonkey, strange that - maybe it does not detect your mic
[10:16] <jonny> ok
[10:16] <Compaq> Synd.
[10:16] <frank23> lucas: I never used it but look into network-manager
[10:16] <Compaq> I'm here for help.
[10:16] <Compaq> I'm a noob.
[10:16] <poimen> please someone can help me is ther eposible to hear 2 programs sound outputs at the same time?
[10:16] <sambagirl> is it ok to use 9100c drivers for 5100c printer tto just get moving along?
[10:16] <cyphase> yes
[10:16] <synd_> Compaq: Understandable.
[10:16] <cyphase> poimen, yes
[10:17] <poimen> cyphase how?
[10:17] <ompaul> Amaranth, so you going to do something like, lets see have 1.0 for dapper+1 :)
[10:17] <cyphase> uhh..
[10:17] <jonny> now what
[10:17] <cyphase> you just do
[10:17] <cyphase> nothing special to do
[10:17] <poimen> well at lest in my system I cant ;(
[10:17] <poimen> I am using alsa
[10:17] <cyphase> hmm
[10:17] <wajig> anyone ?
[10:17] <_native_> breezy, prism2.5, pcmcia: i just installed the linux-wlan-ng thinking that i need it even though the card was functioning before and now i cant bring up the card, via ifconfig.
[10:17] <Amaranth> ompaul: This 0.8 beta is basically feature complete. I'm going to release 0.8, work on any bugs found, get a lot of translations, then release it all again as 1.0
[10:17] <psymin> wajig: you hose your fstab?
[10:17] <Amaranth> ompaul: Hopefully in 2 months or less.
[10:18] <jonny> I would like to know what to do next cyphase
[10:18] <poimen> skype and ut2004 cant also tried skype and totem and totem and ut2004
[10:18] <wajig> psymin: no it's for development. i don't have any ubuntu installed
[10:18] <ompaul> Amaranth, well count me in, I'll bug you with any failings I find :-)
[10:18] <poimen> and one got soudn and the other one does not
[10:18] <psymin> wajig: Ahh .. me neither =] 
[10:18] <cyphase> jonny, do you see a file in there that has sh in the name or on the icon?
[10:18] <wajig> psymin: bad luck
[10:19] <LinuxMonkey> ompaul, yeah it is strange, standard plantronic mic. audigy2 zs
[10:19] <Truth> ~.~
[10:19] <Amaranth> ompaul: If it's not translated into a language you know please consider helping. Details at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=440439&postcount=1
[10:19] <jonny> no...I see epsxe though
[10:20] <cyphase> does it have a purple diamond icon?
[10:20] <jonny> yes
[10:20] <cyphase> run that
[10:20] <Xnix> does anyone know if there is a way to have my own scripts run when my laptop switches from AC power to battery power
[10:20] <Xnix> and vice versa
[10:20] <jonny> I cant
[10:20] <cyphase> what happens?
[10:20] <dura> Can anyone tell me the best way to install the ATi drivers for AMD64 on Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:20] <jonny> nothing
[10:21] <cyphase> try running it in a terminal?
[10:21] <frank23> !tell dura about ati
[10:21] <cyphase> hey, does anyone know why the computer freezes everyonce in a while when you have the nvidia driver installed?
[10:21] <dura> Xnix, Look in /etc/acpi/
[10:22] <ompaul> Amaranth, me lives in Ireland - not enough gaelic to be useful but I'll ask a man who could help
[10:22] <cyphase> every once*
[10:22] <jonny> sudu apt-get install epsxe190lin.zip?
[10:22] <cyphase> lol, no
[10:22] <dura> Thanks frank23
[10:22] <cyphase> it has to be a deb file..
[10:22] <jonny> sorry not dont know the command line
[10:22] <cyphase> and even if it was, that isn't the right way to do it
[10:23] <jonny> what is
[10:23] <cyphase> open a terminal..
[10:23] <frank23> dura: does it work? Don't install it if you have vmware installed
[10:23] <jonny> k
[10:23] <cyphase> and drag the file in
[10:23] <jonny> ok
[10:23] <cyphase> that has a diamond icon
[10:23] <dura> frank23, No I don't have VMWare installed.
[10:23] <dura> I have the drivers working in Gentoo pretty well.
[10:24] <frank23> dura: forget the vmware thing, I mistook you for someone else
[10:24] <jonny> "no such directory"
[10:24] <j5y> anyone tried atmelwlandrivers on breezy? I cant compile, get error: gcc-3.4 command not found, i got used the driver in hoary, it worked fine after compiling.
[10:24] <frank23> j5y: install gcc-3.4
[10:24] <cyphase> jonny, drag it in again, then put quotes around the whole thing
[10:24] <HappyFool> j5y: install the gcc-3.4 connection (assuming you can connect to the net)
[10:24] <jonny> ok
[10:24] <HappyFool> err
[10:24] <cyphase> and remove the space at the end
[10:24] <dura> frank23, Alright lol
[10:24] <HappyFool> package, even
[10:25] <j5y> why isnt gcc4.0 backwardscompatible?
[10:25] <HappyFool> j5y: ask the gcc developers *shrug*
[10:25] <dura> I actually read the whole man page on GCC once...
[10:25] <jonny> How can I paste in here?
[10:25] <barongas> I just made a clean ubuntu install and have just finished installing the packages I think I need/want. I installed the mad package for mp3s but totem won't play mp3s, it says it can't find the resource for writing.
[10:25] <cyphase> because backward compatibility has a limit
[10:26] <cyphase> jonny, what happened?
[10:26] <j5y> so to compile my files usually compiled by gcc-3.4 i cant use gcc4.0 must use gcc-3.4?
[10:26] <ompaul> dura, first draft of the first release? :)
[10:26] <cyphase> did it run?
[10:26] <Xnix> dura thanks
[10:26] <Xnix> :D
[10:26] <dura> barongas, Use mp32ogg to convert the MP3's to ogg.
[10:26] <thrush> gcc is evil but we are slaves to it ;(
[10:26] <BoD_SWAT> hiya all
[10:26] <dura> Xnix, No problem.
[10:26] <HappyFool> j5y: only for kernel stuff
[10:26] <HappyFool> j5y: i think most other things in breezy use gcc-4
[10:26] <cyphase> they do
[10:27] <barongas> dura: Is that a good idea? If I recall correctly both ogg and mp3 are destructive compression which should cause severe quality issues?
[10:27] <ompaul> thrush I meant to say eariler apt-cache search foo does not need sudo thats only to get the package :)
[10:27] <j5y> HappyFool: okay, cool. Where do i find an neat install package of gcc-3.4 for my breezy box?
[10:27] <barongas> dura, I always rip to ogg cause it's superior though
[10:27] <dura> barongas, Nah it works fine. I have about 40 gig's of ogg's that were 80 gigs of MP3's.
[10:27] <poimen> 890-5950  8912450
[10:27] <barongas> dura, nice
[10:27] <hyperactivecrond> if we have a #ubuntu-ca, can't we have a #ubuntu-us?
[10:27] <dura> They sound great,... even when I convert them to .wav for burning to discs.
[10:27] <HappyFool> j5y: if you can connect the box to the net, apt-get install gcc-3.4; if not, stand-by
[10:27] <frank23> j5y: in synaptic
[10:27] <barongas> dura, cool
[10:28] <jonny> ok Ill just type it it said:libgtk-1.2.so.0:cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:28] <j5y> dont have net on the box, only on this PC
[10:28] <BoD_SWAT> I just tried to install dual-head setup (didn't work). I use the ATI drivers from the repository (they work). Now I tried to use xinerama to get a dual-head setup, but instead I get a screwed up 'clone' setup where the mouse etc. acts as if there is a dual-head setup. My Xorg.conf file: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3566
[10:28] <HappyFool> j5y: this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto has a list of the packages you need
[10:28] <cyphase> jonny, that's a problem with the release
[10:28] <mfv> hello.  is it possible to reconfigure my monitor settings in Ubuntu?  the System Administration menu only lets me choose one size
[10:28] <HappyFool> j5y: a bit down the page
[10:28] <cyphase> you'll have to figure it out
[10:28] <cyphase> to specific
[10:28] <jonny> ok then...how to install macromedia flash?
[10:29] <j5y> HappyFool: thanks you very much. I'll take a look
[10:29] <barongas> Nevertheless I would like to be able to play mp3 if the need should arise or playing my gf's mp3-cds
[10:29] <cyphase> use synaptic
[10:29] <jonny> ok
[10:29] <Belutz> BoD_SWAT, i think you have to use the propretiary driver from ati to enable xinerama, afaik
[10:29] <vbgun1> barongas: I just enabled mp3... it really is cool
[10:29] <HappyFool> j5y: i had to figure this out to get my modem driver compiled. i found it a bit frustrating that the necessary packages weren't on the cd
[10:29] <synd_> Is there a way to install ubuntu but with the "nopcmcia" parameter?
[10:29] <barongas> vbgun1, enabled, how?
[10:30] <HappyFool> j5y: it's three packages, gcc-3.4, gcc-3.4-base and cpp-3.4
[10:30] <conn> can someone help me test something? Run xscreensaver-demo and preview the "Atlantis" screensaver. Then change the settings and enable fps display and preview again. On my machine the speed decreases drastically when fps is enabled, to ~5fps :(. Can someone confirm if it happens to them too?
[10:30] <jonny> not there;using warty
[10:30] <barongas> nm, got it running with alsa
[10:30] <cyphase> ...
[10:30] <thrush> mfv: have you done the ubuntu dance? youll need a rattle, salt, and some ducttape...
[10:30] <cyphase> your using warty?
[10:30] <vbgun1> follow the restricted formats howto on the Ubuntu wiki... it'll tell you everything you need to know... Its to the point and helps you to enable the DVD player too... Very cool, no regrets!
[10:30] <jonny> yup
[10:30] <BoD_SWAT> Belutz, could you check for me? (I know it sounds noobish, but I even had trouble to open xchat here)
[10:30] <HappyFool> i must be off. g'night
[10:30] <cyphase> lol
[10:30] <cyphase> why?
[10:30] <barongas> vbgun1, I think there was something with esd that was bad, not mp3s
[10:30] <cyphase> your 2 releases back
[10:31] <vbgun1> I am running on esd and it is perfect
[10:31] <_jason> conn:  Atlantis seems to run fine with the fps display
[10:31] <omnivision> Hi. Does anyone know of a linux application that can restore deleted data?
[10:31] <cyphase> same here
[10:31] <Belutz> BoD_SWAT, i don't use xinerama, so i'm sorry, i can't check to see what's wrong, but i advise you to ask in #ati
[10:31] <ompaul> jonny, in 5.5months it is not supported any more
[10:31] <jonny> breezy upgrade VIA synaptic doesnt work, ordered ShipIt cds yesterday but got no conformation
[10:31] <ompaul> jonny, atm it only gets security fixes
[10:31] <ompaul> jonny, they will take time
[10:31] <cyphase> jonny, can you download it maybe?
[10:31] <mohkohn> sudo ifp firmupdate T30_MTP.HEX
[10:31] <mohkohn> iRiver iFP device not found.
[10:31] <mohkohn> Note: Please check USB connection.
[10:31] <conn> thanks _jason, there was no perceived drop in speed?
[10:31] <jonny> with synaptic?
[10:32] <synd_> Is there a way to install ubuntu but with the "nopcmcia" parameter?
[10:32] <cyphase> no
[10:32] <mohkohn> How do I troubleshoot this?
[10:32] <cyphase> the installer
[10:32] <cyphase> iso
[10:32] <_jason> conn:  nope, ran at 38, visually seemed to  be the same as before
[10:32] <jonny> how long does that take?
[10:32] <wajig> for development purpose i need to know how ubuntu treats devices. could anyone please paste his non-modified ubuntu /etc/fstab?
[10:32] <jonny> cable internet
[10:32] <cyphase> it's 628MB
[10:32] <cyphase> not to long
[10:32] <cyphase> maybe 1 hour
[10:32] <Zuiden> i just isntalled breezy
[10:32] <jonny> ok...what do I save it to
[10:32] <cyphase> doesn't matter
[10:32] <Zuiden> and i don't think it asked for a root passwd
[10:33] <hyperactivecrond> Zuiden: congrats
[10:33] <cyphase> you have to burn it to a cd
[10:33] <hyperactivecrond> oops
[10:33] <cyphase> then backup your data
[10:33] <hyperactivecrond> Zuiden: it never does
[10:33] <cyphase> then install
[10:33] <hyperactivecrond> !tell Zuiden about sudo
[10:33] <cyphase> use bittorrent. it's probably faster
[10:33] <jonny> Umm...I have no data lol
[10:33] <cyphase> lol, wow..
[10:33] <cyphase> 1 year, and you have no data?
[10:33] <jonny> bittorent for linux
[10:33] <jonny> ?
[10:33] <mohkohn> How can it be telling me the iRiver iFP device is not found when I can see it in lsusb
[10:33] <cyphase> yea
[10:33] <mohkohn> ?
[10:33] <jonny> btw installed yesterday
[10:34] <cyphase> lol!
[10:34] <cyphase> you installed warty yesterday?
[10:34] <jonny> yes!?!
[10:34] <cyphase> omg
[10:34] <jonny> y
[10:34] <cyphase> because you installed a 1 year old release
[10:34] <cyphase> yesterday!
[10:34] <cyphase> lol
[10:34] <ompaul> jonny, okay - do you want to install a more modern version, download it and jump up several levels of goodness?
[10:34] <hyperactivecrond> :P
[10:34] <BoD_SWAT> rofl
[10:35] <Zuiden> sudo well i tried sudo
[10:35] <jonny> yes
[10:35] <Zuiden> well i tired sudo
[10:35] <wajig> guys...! could anyone please paste his non-modified ubuntu /etc/fstab?
[10:35] <cyphase> jonny, breezy is so much better then warty it's almost scary
[10:35] <Zuiden> and it gves me an error message
[10:35] <hyperactivecrond> !upgrading
[10:35] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: I haven't a clue
[10:35] <hyperactivecrond> !upgrade
[10:35] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:35] <jonny> fedora came friday...but I really like Ubuntu
[10:35] <hyperactivecrond> fedora core what ... 5?
[10:35] <cyphase> don't we all :D
[10:35] <Belutz> !nickometer hyperactivecrond
[10:35] <ubotu> 'hyperactivecrond' is 0% lame, belutz
[10:35] <jonny> 4 lol
[10:35] <Belutz> great :D
[10:35] <Zuiden> sudo: unable to look up host via gethostbyname()
[10:35] <ompaul> jonny, download it and come back when it is downloaded
[10:35] <jonny> ok
[10:36] <ompaul> jonny, you will not believe the difference
[10:36] <cyphase> jonny, how did you get warty? download or ShipIt?
[10:36] <hyperactivecrond> what does nickometer do?
[10:36] <cyphase> ompaul, i second the motion
[10:36] <cyphase> and third
[10:36] <cyphase> and fourth
[10:36] <cyphase> etc
[10:36] <jonny> friend
[10:36] <hyperactivecrond> ompaul: +1
[10:36] <ompaul> hyperactivecrond, it counts the odd letters in your name
[10:36] <cyphase> anyone here been using Ubuntu since day one?
[10:37] <jonny> what bittorent version?
[10:37] <hyperactivecrond> ompaul: why would you want to do that/
[10:37] <cyphase> is there a bittorrent program in the internet menu?
[10:37] <jonny> geuss how old i am
[10:37] <ompaul> hyperactivecrond, because it can
[10:37] <hyperactivecrond> Mk then
[10:37] <cyphase> jonny, 14?
[10:37] <thrush> jonny: 62
[10:37] <jonny> 12
[10:37] <ompaul> jonny, no, that game is not here
[10:37] <cyphase> close :)
[10:37] <hyperactivecrond> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:38] <Zuiden> ok i tried to do sudo and i get
[10:38] <Zuiden> sudo: unable to look up host via gethostbyname()
[10:38] <hyperactivecrond> Zuiden: you're hostname is screwed up then
[10:38] <cyphase> jonny, i wish my 12 year old brother would use linux
[10:38] <cyphase> ;)
[10:38] <jonny> lol
[10:38] <Zuiden> how does a hostname get screwed up?
[10:38] <conn> is anyone here using an old nvidia tnt2 card?
[10:38] <ompaul> jonny, http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[10:38] <jonny> k
[10:39] <hyperactivecrond> ompaul: how about upgrading? it's an awful waste of time
[10:39] <hyperactivecrond> to d/l 700M
[10:39] <jonny> btw i boycotting windows,cyphase
[10:39] <hyperactivecrond> !tell jonny about upgrade
[10:39] <Zuiden> hyperactivecrond: ok if it is screwed up...what do i have to do to go about fixing it
[10:39] <cyphase> hyperactivecrond, so you're under 27 years old :)
[10:39] <psycose> hi all !, where could i configure udev/hotplug for mounting camera memory card vfat codepage 850 instead of default (codepage 437) thanks
[10:39] <cyphase> jonny, here's to that
[10:39] <cyphase> :)
[10:39] <jonny> yay
[10:39] <hyperactivecrond> zuiden: check the wiki
[10:39] <ompaul> hyperactivecrond, warty to hoary was a not good in some cases and that would just be yuk
[10:39] <hyperactivecrond> heh treu
[10:39] <hyperactivecrond> ompaul: don't listen to me
[10:39] <hyperactivecrond> for that :)
[10:40] <cyphase> hoary was a pretty good improvement..
[10:40] <cyphase> but nothing like hoary to breezy
[10:40] <cyphase> and dapper..
[10:40] <hyperactivecrond> cyphase: yesss
[10:40] <pluffsy> hello
[10:40] <slyjab> can anyone tell me how i can open a movie file with vlc by just clicking on the file instead of doing it through the vlc panel.. when i try to right click>open with other application>and choose vlc it give the following error: could not add application to application database
[10:40] <ompaul> hyperactivecrond, also if it goes pear shaped he has a good disk to start with
[10:40] <cyphase> dapper is going to be the beginning of a whole new development cycle..
[10:40] <cyphase> maaaaajor changes
[10:40] <kaine> could somebody help me set up a wpa tkip key for my wlan connection?
[10:40] <barongas> Hmmm, my firefox doesn't seem to handle javascripts(I think) very well... any ideas?
[10:40] <hyperactivecrond> heh pear shaped
[10:41] <hyperactivecrond> barongas: firefox is buggy as of now
[10:41] <paulproteus> !wpa
[10:41] <ubotu> paulproteus: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:41] <hyperactivecrond> so deal with it... by using Opera!
[10:41] <ompaul> jonny, when it is downloaded we will check the integrity of the downloaded disk before you burn it
[10:41] <lucas> why can't I set the CPU frequency using the gnome applet, while it works on the command line with cpufreq ?
[10:41] <hyperactivecrond> it's wap not wpa
[10:41] <hyperactivecrond> wireless access point
[10:41] <barongas> hyperactivecrond, Yeah was thinking about that... Both has there ups and downs
[10:42] <cyphase> wuick poll
[10:42] <pluffsy> sorry if this is OT. but I would like to find some small eh not sure what it's called but somewhere between pda and laptop small computer which would run ubuntu that I could use to surf, IM, email, etc. with wlan that I could have when I read and watch tv, etc. I'm tired of sitting so much in front of my computer. any tips?
[10:42] <hyperactivecrond> heh
[10:42] <cyphase> what do you guys think is the best laptop to use with ubuntu?
[10:42] <cyphase> quick*
[10:42] <jonny> ok, so i try to save to disk on F.F. but after i click ok nothing happens
[10:42] <N6REJ> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3567
[10:42] <N6REJ> cyphase: one that works ;)
[10:42] <Zuiden> well the wiki doesn't have anything about my problem
[10:43] <Zuiden> blah maybe this is why i don't use ubuntu
[10:43] <cyphase> N6REJ, thanx, now i know which one to get
[10:43] <kaine> no ideas for wpa key?
[10:43] <cyphase> ;)
[10:43] <barongas> So... what's up with firefox? Why is it going crazy?
[10:43] <hyperactivecrond> Zuiden: then _why_ are you in here???
[10:43] <hyperactivecrond> barongas: blame the devs
[10:43] <hyperactivecrond> imho
[10:43] <cyphase> hopefully Firefox is goiong crazy because 1.5 is going to be amazing
[10:43] <cyphase> :)
[10:43] <cyphase> going*
[10:43] <slyjab> can anyone tell me how i can open a movie file with vlc by just clicking on the file instead of doing it through the vlc panel.. when i try to right click>open with other application>and choose vlc it give the following error: could not add application to application database
[10:43] <Zuiden> hyperactivecrond: to get support, so i can use ubuntu on someone elses machine
[10:43] <barongas> Ok, blaming the devs like crazy :)
[10:44] <jonny> wich bittorent do i want? deb, Python?
[10:44] <hedonick> cyphase: not that I've tried them... but HP sells some NX laptops with linux
[10:44] <cyphase> hedonick, i know
[10:44] <cyphase> in europe
[10:44] <cyphase> and africa
[10:44] <cyphase> i'm in the US
[10:44] <alumno> how can i change user and mode grafic ?
[10:44] <synd_> Is there ANY way I can disable PCI/PCMCIA during the Ubuntu install?
[10:44] <jonny> will bittorent work with warty
[10:45] <psycode> What can i do - I have a broken package, and when i run "apt-get -f install" it fails. i can't remove the packages since its writing i should first run "-f install" to fix the problems. any ideas ?
[10:45] <hyperactivecrond> synd: hit the f button indicated on boot
[10:45] <cyphase> hopefully the Firefox devs are focusing so much on the release of 1.5 (which should be in about a week), they're not testing 1.0 enough
[10:45] <cyphase> i hope that's the reason anyway :)
[10:45] <freakazoid333> i try to enter su mode in terminal mode on breezy badger but i get an authtication failure....what should i do?
[10:45] <Amaranth> cyphase: 1.0 is dead code
[10:45] <hyperactivecrond> cyphase: #ubuntu-offtopic plz there's too much noise
[10:45] <cyphase> jonny, if it doesn't, just download it from the web
[10:45] <jonny> ok
[10:46] <synd_> hyperactivecrond: It says nothing of the sort.
[10:46] <hyperactivecrond> synd_: hit "f1" or "f2" and reaed
[10:46] <hyperactivecrond> on boot
[10:46] <psycode> can someone help me ?
[10:46] <synd_> hyperactivecrond: Yes, I did that. It says nothing.
[10:46] <hyperactivecrond> what psycode
[10:46] <hyperactivecrond> synd_: what version
[10:46] <jonny> what do i want to open the iso with
[10:46] <nadia> trying to vnc into my ubunto desktop, got remote desktop enabled, and it works great locally, but I'm trying to do it over the net...  I've got port 5900 open and forwarding to my ubuntu box on my router.  What else should I check?
[10:46] <cyphase> you want to burn it
[10:46] <synd_> hyperactivecrond: Pertaining to the disabling of PCMCIA/PCI
[10:46] <cyphase> with nautilus
[10:46] <agt> jonny::  save it to disk
[10:47] <hyperactivecrond> nadia: firewall
[10:47] <jonny> ok
[10:47] <cyphase> right click and click burn
[10:47] <synd_> hyperactivecrond: Hoary
[10:47] <cyphase> pick a low speed though
[10:47] <cyphase> warty is horrible with CD speeds
[10:47] <psycode> hyperactivecrond, as i wrote above, i got a broken package and "apt-get -f install" fails - what can i do ?
[10:47] <cyphase> it'll ruin it
[10:47] <hyperactivecrond> synd_: EEK use breezy
[10:47] <synd_> hyperactivecrond: It shouldn't matter.
[10:47] <nadia> hyper, on the ubuntu box... check for firewall?
[10:47] <cyphase> jonny, something like 3X or 4X
[10:47] <amitayk> Hi, something got wrong with my ubuntu installation and now I don't know how to finish the installation. What to do?
[10:47] <hyperactivecrond> synd_: breezy is new
[10:47] <cyphase> lol
[10:47] <jonny> GRR!! firefox is screwing up, it wont let me save it to disk
[10:47] <synd_> hyperactivecrond: That doesn't matter.
[10:48] <synd_> It should be in Hoary as well.
[10:48] <cyphase> jonny, copy the link..
[10:48] <cyphase> then use wget
[10:48] <synd_> Bleh.
[10:48] <jonny> wget?
[10:48] <hyperactivecrond> synd_: b r e e z y is n e w e r
[10:48] <cyphase> in a terminal
[10:48] <cyphase> copy the link first
[10:48] <hyperactivecrond> jonny: wget -c
[10:48] <thrush> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso get from a terminal
[10:48] <synd_> hyperactivecrond: It doesn't matter.
[10:48] <cyphase> yea
[10:48] <cyphase> so you can continue later
[10:48] <hyperactivecrond> the -c makes sure it doesn't screw up later
[10:48] <cyphase> if need be
[10:48] <hyperactivecrond> synd_: it wasn't supported earlier
[10:48] <alumno> how can i copy from mi ntfs partiton to mi ext3 partition ? hwo can i enter on ntfs partiocion how root ? plz help me 4 days on linux
[10:48] <synd_> hyperactivecrond: Breezy makes the exact same error.
[10:48] <jonny> oh, so copy the link and try later?
[10:48] <synd_> So bleh.
[10:49] <hyperactivecrond> synd_: it says howto in breezy
[10:49] <xplozion> hi
[10:49] <hyperactivecrond> iirc
[10:49] <cyphase> no, not later
[10:49] <cyphase> jonny, have you copied the link?
[10:49] <synd_> I'll just ask later.
[10:49] <hyperactivecrond> !tell alumno about windowsdrive
[10:49] <jonny> so copy the link then what
[10:49] <psycode> no1 knows how to fix broken packages? or force apt-get to remove a package while there are broken packages??
[10:49] <cevizoglu> !tell alumno about rootsudo
[10:49] <cyphase> jonny, open a terminal
[10:49] <jonny> ok
[10:49] <hyperactivecrond> !tell alumno about windowsdrives
[10:49] <bimberi> !tell alumno about windowsdrives
[10:49] <bimberi> ha
[10:49] <cyphase> type wget -c <url>
[10:49] <hyperactivecrond> heh :)
[10:49] <jonny> got it open
[10:50] <cyphase> and put in the url where <url> is :)
[10:50] <jonny> ok
[10:50] <alumno> thanks hyperactivecrond  bimberi  cevizoglu
[10:50] <hyperactivecrond> np alumno
[10:50] <bimberi> hyperactivecrond: ubotu told me "Someone already said that 1 seconds ago"
[10:50] <hyperactivecrond> bimberi: oh well
[10:50] <bimberi> :)
[10:50] <psycode> is this the only support channel ?
[10:51] <cyphase> jonny, is it downloading?
[10:51] <hyperactivecrond> !ircf
[10:51] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: What?
[10:51] <hyperactivecrond> !irc
[10:51] <ubotu> irc is, like, Internet Relay Chat. It is a virtual network with servers allowing connections from clients where many people connect and chat with each other related to Linux or even sex.
[10:51] <jonny> hold on
[10:51] <kab> where I can find the new sources.list from the new develop ubuntu?
[10:51] <hyperactivecrond> kab: what develop?
[10:51] <DianWei> I have a question about compiling alsa.
[10:51] <hyperactivecrond> psycode:  IRC Info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat".
[10:51] <iceman> shoot, been letting this system "bootstrap" took forfver it seems to download ... now errors
[10:51] <psycode> hyperactivecrond, why are you sending me IRC info ? :O
[10:52] <jonny> bash: url: no such file or directory
[10:52] <hyperactivecrond> psycode: that's other support channels
[10:52] <iceman> flood
[10:52] <cyphase> jonny, what did you type in?
[10:52] <cyphase> exactly
[10:52] <iceman> #flood
[10:52] <cyphase> just copy and paste it
[10:52] <alumno> hyperactivecrond,  after mount mi ntfs drivers with script where can i find it in /mnt ?
[10:52] <jonny> hold up im gonna go get my homework and multitask :)
[10:52] <cyphase> lol
[10:52] <alumno> partitions
[10:53] <corincole> can someone link me to a download of ubutnu breezy ISO for cd?
[10:53] <iceman> anyone know what the errors i put im flood are
[10:53] <DianWei> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Avance+Logic&card=ALS4000.&chip=als4000&module=als4000 I have been following this guide; and the steps seemed to work until "./configure --with-cards=als4000 --with-sequencer=yes;make;make install" which returned "make command not found"
[10:53] <slara> how can i run a memtest from the live hoary CD?
[10:53] <corincole> bob2?
[10:53] <jrattner1> network-admin by redhat is the best wireless network tool for linux ever
[10:53] <jrattner1> it is so sexy
[10:53] <nadia> how can I get firewall info on my ubuntu box?
[10:54] <jonny> ok
[10:54] <nadia> see if port 5900 is getting blocked?
[10:54] <corincole> anyone?
[10:54] <thrush> nadia did you install a firewall?
[10:54] <bob2> corincole: ?
[10:54] <slara> help please...
[10:54] <nadia> not that I recall.
[10:54] <grogoreo> hi
[10:54] <sunshine82> how can i check to see if i have /dev/video0
[10:54] <nadia> I checked netstat and it says that port 5900 is listening.
[10:54] <cyphase> corincole, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[10:54] <corincole> thanks
[10:55] <corincole> ignore it bob2 :P
[10:55] <cyphase> np
[10:55] <nadia> I'm just trying to get to my ubuntu box from work.  locally I get to it no prob.
[10:55] <Enlite> where in the snmpd.conf do I specify what IP address's are allowed to view/read the SNMP info?
[10:55] <nadia> My router is forwarding port 5900 tcp to my ubuntu box.
[10:55] <thrush> no firewall installed by default, i dont thing iptables do anything fancy either I could be wrong
[10:55] <grogoreo> is it ok to use ubuntu while its dist-upgrading?
[10:55] <jonny> so, i typed in:"wget -c <url>(the url)"
[10:55] <cyphase> nope
[10:55] <cyphase> remove <url>
[10:55] <cyphase> here..
[10:56] <jonny> OH! sorry
[10:56] <cyphase> wget -c http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[10:56] <DShepherd> grogoreo: eys
[10:56] <cyphase> that right there
[10:56] <nadia> thrush, I didn't install it... so does vnc block wan connections to it?
[10:56] <cyphase> your in the us, right?
[10:56] <grogoreo> DShepherd, thanks
[10:56] <jonny> yup
[10:56] <cyphase> k
[10:56] <corincole> cyphase, u an OP?
[10:56] <DShepherd> grogoreo: np
[10:56] <cyphase> corincole, no
[10:56] <cyphase> why do you ask?
[10:56] <slara> how can i run a memtest from the live hoary CD?
[10:56] <corincole> just interested
[10:56] <corincole> ;)
[10:56] <slara> please?
[10:57] <cyphase> hmm
[10:57] <cyphase> ok..
[10:57] <cyphase> :)
[10:57] <iceman> anyone help ... command in a terminal to kill xmms ?
[10:57] <flogiston> Hi is there a way to continu a started download with wget that got broken?
[10:57] <slara> killall xmms
[10:57] <cyphase> flogiston, wget -c <url>
[10:57] <bob2> Enlite: eh? in the access control section.
[10:57] <bob2> flogiston: -c
[10:57] <cyphase> but it might not work if you didn't start it like that
[10:57] <barongas> What deb-source is fglrx-driver on?
[10:57] <lucas> is network-admin really working for somebody ?
[10:57] <rohal> iceman:ps -aux | grep xmms                         then kill <process id>
[10:58] <lucas> it seems to always forget my settings
[10:58] <flogiston> Thanks
[10:58] <jonny> YA BABY!
[10:58] <cyphase> iceman, just do killall xmms
[10:58] <cyphase> lol
[10:58] <cyphase> i guess it's coming jonny :)
[10:58] <jonny> now...for the matter of homework :(
[10:58] <alumno> where can i find me partitions after mount with winmac_fstab script ? i cant find it on terminar root ?
[10:58] <vrub> wee
[10:58] <slara> how can i run a memtest from the live hoary CD?
[10:58] <thrush> nadia: are you able to vnc behind your router or from hostcomputer?
[10:58] <alumno> to which directory i msut to go ?
[10:58] <cyphase> slara, install the sysutils package
[10:59] <cyphase> that will do it from inside linux
[10:59] <bob2> alumno: ? /media
[10:59] <jonny> then burn, boot, install?
[10:59] <cyphase> if you want to do it standalone, i don't think you can
[10:59] <cyphase> wait..
[10:59] <cyphase> you can
[10:59] <TheRabbit> How do I create a symbolic link to a file in a directory?
[10:59] <cyphase> type memtest at the boot prompt
[10:59] <jonny> me?
[10:59] <cyphase> no, slara
[10:59] <sunshine82> I need to do this does anyone know how im mean to do this(You will also need to "chmod 666 " all these files.)
[10:59] <slara> cyphase: i tried but doesn't work
[11:00] <dmlinux> anyone have an idea on how to make my wifi light turn on when wifi is on?
[11:00] <korio> how do i install a i686 kernel?
[11:00] <cyphase> slara, you sure?
[11:00] <slara> yes
[11:00] <titanium> anyone here using NX? i cannot get it working
[11:00] <DShepherd> TheRabbit: ln -s <filename>
[11:00] <cyphase> maybe hoary doesn't have that..
[11:00] <cyphase> breezy does though
[11:00] <slara> memtest and live memtest
[11:00] <TheRabbit> Thanks much DSheperd!
[11:00] <DShepherd> TheRabbit: man ln
[11:00] <slara> nothing in the help files
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> sunshine82 : chmod 666 files
[11:00] <DShepherd> TheRabbit: if that doesnt work...man ln
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> sunshine82 : chmod 666 *     <-- means all files in the directory
[11:01] <alumno> bob2,  o yes here but how can i enter where example:  59 GB Disk (hda1) ?
[11:01] <ironwolf> I can't seem to get cisco vpn client installed on breezy.  I've checked help.u.c and the wiki...anybody able to do this?
[11:01] <alumno> how can i enter where =
[11:01] <bob2> alumno: what?
[11:01] <bob2> alumno: if you want to control where they get mounted, why are you using a script to do it? just edit /etc/fstab.
[11:01] <jonny> cyphase,after its installed what do i do?
[11:02] <cyphase> afetr breezy is installed?
[11:02] <alumno> i want copy one fiel to me ext3 partition withount grafic mode ?
[11:02] <cyphase> after*
[11:02] <jonny> yessir
[11:02] <alumno> bob2,
[11:02] <cyphase> you use it
[11:02] <alumno> file
[11:02] <cyphase> lol
[11:02] <sunshine82> lsuactiafner the files are like /dev/video it basically all the /dev files how to i type it sdo they can go into they directory
[11:02] <DShepherd> !tell alumno about fstab
[11:02] <jonny> um burn it than boot it?
[11:02] <bob2> alumno: you need to use whole sentences on single lines, sorry
[11:02] <cyphase> after it installs, or after it downloads?
[11:03] <sunshine82> lsuactiafner i need them all together so my webcam can work in gqcam
[11:03] <jonny> downloads
[11:03] <cyphase> ah
[11:03] <cyphase> yea, burn and boot
[11:03] <cyphase> and burn it at a low speed
[11:03] <cyphase> 3X or 4X
[11:03] <alumno> :)
[11:03] <cyphase> warty sucks at burning
[11:03] <titanium> is port 22 somehow blocked or filtered on a fresh install of ubuntu? i can ssh to this machine but freenx will NOT WORK no matter what i do
[11:03] <jonny> ok ill get to u about that when its finished installing,will u still be here?
[11:04] <cyphase> titanium, is the ssh daemon installed?
[11:04] <Strog> titanium: You using the nomachine key or the host key?
[11:04] <bob2> titanium: nope
[11:04] <lsuactiafner> sunshine82 : sunshine82 chmod 666 /dev/vid*
[11:04] <bob2> titanium: that sounds more like you misconfigured it
[11:04] <cyphase> jonny, maybe not at the exact moment it finishes, but yea
[11:04] <jonny> ok
[11:04] <cyphase> i'm having problems with my computer right now..
[11:04] <sunshine82> lsuactiafner do i have to chmod 666 all the file individually
[11:05] <jonny> watsa matter
[11:05] <titanium> fresh install of breezy. installed ssh demon. tried to install freenx from some debs i made a while ago, but they didnt work (missing depends) so i force removed+purged them and deleted anything nx related. got Seveas's freenx repos added to my sources, installed freenx, doesn't work. i get auth failed.
[11:05] <cyphase> my main computer is booting off a live cd, and the IRC client is in another machine i have that i'm VNCing into
[11:05] <titanium> i've reinstalled with purge several times, using nomachine keys, etc. nothing seems to work. i've been working on it for hours
[11:05] <sunshine82> lsuactiafner or do i just chmod 666 all the files on one line
[11:05] <jonny> ok i c
[11:05] <Strog> titanium: can you do a nxssh from the client?
[11:05] <corincole> what is the best software for editing partitions?
[11:05] <corincole> qtparte
[11:05] <corincole> d
[11:05] <corincole> ?
[11:06] <jonny> r u running breezy on both?
[11:06] <corincole> or is there a better one?
[11:06] <titanium> Strog: client is windows
[11:06] <cyphase> i've had 2 hard drives completely die (they were my server drives) and 1 drive (the drive my installation on my main machine is on) went funny
[11:06] <cyphase> all in about 1 week
[11:06] <bob2> titanium: time to read your logs
[11:06] <odie5533> How do you fix the choppy dvd playback?
[11:06] <titanium> bob2: what should i look in?
[11:06] <bob2> titanium: which should be your very first instinct when something doesn't work
[11:06] <lsuactiafner> sunshine82 : chmod 666 /dev/vid*         <-- any file starting with vid will be 666 then... you could do chmod 666 -r /dev/*  <-- might not be as secure.... but i wouldnt be bothered too much about it, but its your call
[11:06] <cyphase> and my video card on my main machine is acting weird
[11:06] <jonny> wow that sux so badly its not even funny
[11:06] <bob2> titanium: /var/log/auth.log to see if you're actually logging in
[11:06] <cyphase> plus i need more memory, a faster CPU, and a linux compatible wireless card
[11:06] <korio> What do I need to install a 686 kernel? Kernel image and what more?
[11:07] <cyphase> plus more minor stuff
[11:07] <cyphase> lol
[11:07] <cyphase> it's crazy
[11:07] <jonny> ur using 802.11b or g?
[11:07] <cyphase> the router is g
[11:07] <sunshine82> lsuactiafner do i put the star
[11:07] <cyphase> and the wireless card works at g
[11:07] <dmlinux> anyone have an idea on how to make my wifi light turn on when wifi is on?
[11:07] <cyphase> but noton linux :)
[11:07] <cyphase> no on*
[11:07] <corincole> what is the bet partition editor for ubuntu?
[11:08] <dmlinux> cyphase mine is on  g atm :P
[11:08] <spudse> How can I run a application on startup that requires superuser?
[11:08] <cyphase> i got a few more white hairs then i had before
[11:08] <cyphase> lol
[11:08] <cyphase> i have about 7
[11:08] <titanium> bob2, if i scroll up a bit i find some errors (about 20 mins ago) about the nx user. "user nx not allowed because account is locked || failed none for invalid user nx from <ip> <port> ssh2"
[11:08] <mirak> I have a scsi scanner, how to have the corresponding device in /dev/ ?
[11:08] <cyphase> and i'm 15
[11:08] <cyphase> lol
[11:08] <jonny> o i found 1 that works with b and linux for $15
[11:08] <mirak> this doesn't work
[11:08] <bob2> titanium: there you go
[11:08] <mwe> corincole: parted, qtparted if you want gui
[11:08] <jonny> ur 15
[11:08] <cyphase> yea
[11:08] <cyphase> lol
[11:08] <jonny> ?!
[11:08] <bob2> titanium: for a start, make it so that user can login
[11:08] <iceman> screw it, guess i download the freaking 32 bit cd and start over ..
[11:08] <cyphase> is it so surprising?
[11:08] <Strog> titanium: nxserver --status on the server
[11:08] <mwe> corincole: or gparted
[11:08] <corincole> qtparted wont let me resize the linux partition...
[11:08] <jonny> wow u no a lot for thata age
[11:08] <korio> What do I need to install a 686 kernel? Kernel image and what more?
[11:08] <cyphase> your younger then me anyway
[11:08] <titanium> bob2: what is required for nx to be able to login?
[11:08] <cyphase> lol
[11:09] <jonny> no i no but u obviously know lots more thanme
[11:09] <jonny> *than me
[11:09] <cyphase> well, i've been using linux longer
[11:09] <cyphase> i would think :)
[11:09] <Strog> titanium: Is your server 1.4.0 and the client 1.5.0?
[11:09] <jonny> i bet
[11:09] <cyphase> when did you start using linux?
[11:09] <angel_> hmmm
[11:10] <angel_> I have a rather silly question...
[11:10] <spudse> can somebody help me ?
[11:10] <cyphase> go for it
[11:10] <cyphase> both of you :)
[11:10] <titanium> Strog: server stuff is all from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/freenx/
[11:10] <vengeful> we dont give help here
[11:10] <spudse> i need to run something on startup that requires root
[11:10] <angel_> I am trying to run 3ddesktop on my work machine
[11:10] <angel_> and it's running breezy right now.
[11:10] <jonny> um... iv been part-time for about 6 months now
[11:10] <angel_> it's complaining that it doesn't have direct rendering
[11:10] <cyphase> angel_, 3ddesktop isn't working
[11:10] <cyphase> i've tried
[11:10] <corincole> Root privileges are required for running GParted
[11:10] <corincole> Since GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction only root may run it.
[11:10] <angel_> which is correct, because glxinfo return direct rendering : No
[11:10] <corincole> :o
[11:10] <corincole> lol
[11:10] <angel_> but how do I enable that?
[11:10] <sunshine82> it say run gqcam i ried in terminal it say /dev/video: No such file or directory
[11:11] <sunshine82>  but i just created one
[11:11] <titanium> bob2: i understand that there is something wrong with the nx user, but how do i modify it so that it can login?
[11:11] <korio> to have a 686 kernel do I need to install linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-686 right?
[11:11] <jonny> dual booting with xp FOR 1 REASON ONLY and that is iPod+iTunes
[11:11] <barongas> I got something wrong in my sources.list file... Just can't figure it out. Can anyone apt-cache search fglrx and see if they have the fglrx-driver and then tell me what repository I need to add? I offer my undying gratitude
[11:11] <Strog> titanium: What does nxserver --status tell you?
[11:11] <bob2> titanium: grep nx /etc/passwd, show us here
[11:11] <cyphase> angel_, you need to install the 3d driver
[11:11] <lsald> with the new 'production' MySQL 5 out , how long before it shows up in our repos?
[11:11] <sunshine82> how do i check if /dev/video is created
[11:11] <jonny> 28% complete
[11:11] <titanium> strog it's running
[11:11] <angel_> hmmm
[11:11] <angel_> any suggestion where I can get those?
[11:11] <korio> to have a 686 kernel do I need to install linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-686 right?
[11:11] <titanium> bob2: nx:x:113:65534::/var/lib/nxserver/home:/usr/lib/nx/nxserver
[11:11] <cyphase> there are instrctions in System -> Help >> Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide
[11:12] <cyphase> instructions*
[11:12] <spudse> How can I run a application on startup that requires superuser?
[11:12] <angel_> as it is, seems like my xorg.conf is really touchy... if I change anything, it'll barf at me and refuse to start x
[11:12] <titanium> Strog: hmm. NX> 100 NXSERVER - Version 1.4.0-44 OS (GPL)
[11:12] <Strog> titanium: Did you run the install with --setup-nomachine-key or not?
[11:12] <mwe> heh
[11:12] <mebsd> what you tring to accomplish
[11:12] <titanium> Strog: i ran it with setup nomachine key. should it be saying 1.4.0-44 for the server though?
[11:12] <Strog> titanium: 1.4.0 doesn't like the 1.5.0 client yet
[11:13] <titanium> Strog: how the hell did i end up with 1.4? i installed it from Seveas's site
[11:13] <Strog> Is that 1.4.0 with 1.5.0 libs? I'm wondering outloud
[11:13] <barongas> nm, got it
[11:13] <Seveas> titanium, packages from my repo are 1.5.0, but versioned as 1.4.0+1.5.0
[11:13] <mantra_locust> Okay. I have Ubuntu installed, everything is wonderful. One problem. I get really low frame rates in games even though I know I should be able to run them way higher. Any way to fix this?
[11:13] <sunshine82> does anyone know about gqcam
[11:13] <titanium> not sure... everyone else using breezy and nx seems to be using nx from that site though, so i think its just me
[11:13] <titanium> Seveas: oh ok
[11:14] <Seveas> (don't know why, the sources are from kanotix)
[11:14] <titanium> Seveas: so does 1.4.0-44 sound right on the --status screen?
[11:14] <jonny> hey, cyphase?
[11:14] <bob2> titanium: "passwd -S nx", #flood
[11:14] <bob2> haha kanotix
[11:14] <titanium> bob2: it's only one line:     nx L 10/24/2005 0 99999 7 -1
[11:14] <Seveas> titanium, yes
[11:15] <bob2> titanium: sudo passwd -u nx
[11:15] <bob2> apparently
[11:15] <cyphase> hey jonny
[11:15] <sunshine82> i cant get my webcam to work in gnome meeting i dont know what wrong
[11:15] <titanium> Password changed.
[11:15] <bob2> tho you'd think that would not affect key logins
[11:15] <jonny> can u dual boot ubuntu and fedora
[11:15] <titanium> should i try it now?
[11:15] <digits> Any of you tried the vmware player (under a ubuntu host)?
[11:15] <cyphase> yes
[11:15] <Zukero> jonny : of course
[11:15] <cyphase> i've never doen it, bu i know it can be done
[11:15] <cyphase> done*
[11:15] <sunshine82> gnome meeting just say there are no devices
[11:15] <cyphase> but*
[11:15] <cyphase> :)
[11:15] <sunshine82> in v4l and v4l2
[11:16] <jonny> YES! yes! yes! yes! yes! yes!
[11:16] <cyphase> lol
[11:16] <sunshine82> when i type lsusb in terminal i see my webcam
[11:16] <titanium> still get server not installed or nx access disabled. :(
[11:16] <kbrooks> wtf vmware player
[11:17] <digits> kbrooks, freeware vmware... runs any virtual machine
[11:17] <Strog> titanium: Did you add a user to access nx?
[11:17] <iceman> sucks that you can not use wine with 64 bit
[11:17] <sunshine82> when i see lsmod i see the webcam .ko file
[11:17] <titanium> the user i ssh with, login with, etc (basically created the install with) is 'garrett'. i've added that with nxserver --adduser and set the password to the same as 'garrett' 's password for the system
[11:17] <frank23> digits: what? a freeware emaulator that can run vmware images?
[11:17] <digits> iceman, doesn't help me... i have to use ie and a shitty add-on thingie for my banking... which doesn't work at all with wine
[11:17] <bob2> titanium: so read your logs again
[11:18] <bob2> titanium: you should instantly be looking at logs as soon as something doesn't work
[11:18] <titanium> bob2: nothing in auth.log since i did the passwd -u
[11:18] <bob2> titanium: then the problem is elsewhere
[11:18] <bob2> titanium: the nx user can ssh in normally?
[11:18] <digits> frank23, think vmware diet ;-) alas you cannot make your own virtual machines but you can run pre-made ones... and it's freeware (and less bloaty)
[11:18] <agt> I just installed 'Beneath a Steel Sky', via Synaptic. How do I find out where it installed?
[11:18] <titanium> bob2: what would the password be?
[11:18] <frank23> digits: where can you get that
[11:18] <digits> frank23, www.vmware.com
[11:18] <sublime> someone can helpme with wine, i had wine instaled but i can't run it, my error is http://pastebin.com/404532
[11:19] <digits> frank23, it's still beta though
[11:19] <bob2> agt: it doesn't matter where it installed
[11:19] <bob2> agt: but 'dpkg -L beneatha...'
[11:19] <titanium> trying to ssh into the system with 'nx' and no passwords i've ever set are working with it
[11:19] <bob2> titanium: er, you'd obviously need to setup key auth or set the password
[11:20] <bob2> also, setting NX as your login shell seems suboptimal
[11:20] <sunshine82> now my dmesg dont want to work i keep gettin this error  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/seri
[11:20] <sunshine82> does anyone know
[11:20] <amitayk> I have GUI now, but my PS/2 mouse doesn't work. What can I do?
[11:21] <agt> bob2::  Thx. Needed to know so I could point ScummVM to it.
[11:21] <frank23> digits: wow so people could now distribute test images of linux distributions for people to try freely using vmware player?
[11:21] <johnsie2k> how do I run a .sh file?
[11:21] <bob2> agt: oh, scummvm doesn't show it in the list? my apologies.
[11:21] <bob2> johnsie2k: sh ./blah.sh
[11:21] <agt> bob2::  :)
[11:21] <bob2> johnsie2k: assuming you know what it does, and trust it not to fuck your system up
[11:21] <yaaar> word
[11:21] <bob2> agt: good luck getting past the first building ;)
[11:21] <mebsd> johnsie2k: ./.sh
[11:22] <yaaar> hey guys, is serpentine audio cd creator just a POS, or is this something specific to my system? If I have any songs added to the disc, if I click on "File" or "Edit" at the top it immediately crashes
[11:22] <jonny> I have a feeling in the pit of my stomach that says this isnt going to work
[11:22] <sergio> nickname ciel
[11:22] <sergio> ola
[11:23] <bob2> yaaar: you can file bugs in the bts
[11:23] <iceman> wish i could set this bootstrap stuff up ... anyone here a linux god .. able to do a ssh install of wine .. i got everything downloaded but from there i am freakin lost
[11:23] <cyphase> how far jonny?
[11:23] <titanium> bob2: well i just tried removing freenx again and reinstalling it, and when it removes it, it removes the nx user; when it adds it again, it adds the nx user. i have no sweet clue why it is somehow breaking when every other install on the forums etc seems to work cleanly (thus not many people can help with this problem)
[11:23] <jonny> 46%
[11:23] <sergio> please...
[11:23] <bob2> iceman: holy crap, dude
[11:23] <sergio> messenger for linux, have??
[11:23] <yaaar> bob2: so it's not normally unstable?
[11:23] <bob2> sergio: no, use gaim
[11:23] <cyphase> sergio, use Gaim
[11:23] <bob2> yaaar: no idea
[11:24] <sunshine82> my webcam is not bein shown on this cat /proc/bus/usb/devices in terminal does anyone know why
[11:24] <iceman> bob2 i got error's here that i have no idea what the heck they are. missing librarys ... and who knows what
[11:24] <amitayk> I have GUI, but my PS/2 mouse doesn't work. What can I do?
[11:24] <bob2> iceman: that's of no use, paste them to #flood
[11:25] <spudse> how can I run a sudo command in sessions>startup ?
[11:25] <bob2> amitayk: uh, configure X to use it? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[11:25] <jonny> 52%
[11:25] <icewt> anyone happen to know some script to convert mpeg2 to xvid using mencoder?
[11:25] <sunshine82> now my dmesg dont want to work i keep gettin this error  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/seri
[11:25] <cyphase> Does anyone think it would be cool if people could report bugs or problems with ubuntu and it's programs, and have a little program tht lives in the tray telling them the status of the bug?
[11:25] <cyphase> that*
[11:26] <ispiked_> I messed around with xorg.conf and now my mouse won't work.
[11:26] <cyphase> icewt, do it by hand
[11:26] <cyphase> :)
[11:26] <sergio> /nickname ciel
[11:26] <sergio> ola
[11:26] <jonny> yes it would be cool, ill develope it if your not gonna
[11:26] <bob2> sunshine82: appears to be ignorable
[11:26] <cyphase> sergio, /nick
[11:26] <icewt> cyphase: i'm in a little hurry, so i don't have time to learn mencoder right now :/
[11:26] <bob2> cyphase: someone could do that for bugzilla
[11:27] <frank23> sunshine82: do you have vmware installed?
[11:27] <nadia> ola sergio...
[11:27] <sergio> oi
[11:27] <digits> ispiked_: always make backups ;P
[11:27] <cyphase> icewt, i don't mean using mencoder
[11:27] <iceman> bob2 i closed the terminal and have rebooted, what and why, i have no idea. the wiki page is some help, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28debootstrap%29 at least the basic is there. but with things missing it fails
[11:27] <cyphase> i mean using a hex editor
[11:27] <cyphase> ;)
[11:27] <bob2> wtf
[11:27] <sunshine82> frank23 how do i check
[11:27] <jonny> ill do it for bugzilla, that would be so easy.
[11:27] <cyphase> jonny, you can start..
[11:27] <iceman> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28debootstrap%29 i mean that page
[11:27] <ispiked_> digits: yeah, here's the thing, though: I ran the command to change it back to the default (as mentioned in the comments of it) and it still doesn't work. I did some other stuff, too, and I've tried to undo that, but I must've missed something.
[11:27] <ciel> oi
[11:27] <cyphase> maybe i can join you in a week, when i get my computers sorted out
[11:27] <cyphase> :)
[11:27] <jonny> ok
[11:27] <bob2> iceman: I Still don't see the error
[11:27] <ciel> nadia,
[11:28] <icewt> cyphase: ohh.. ok. i'll just fire up khexedit then. thanks!
[11:28] <jonny> i will
[11:28] <ciel> como fao para teclar com vc
[11:28] <cyphase> icewt, your welcome :)
[11:28] <frank23> sunshine82: I you don't know, you don't have it.
[11:28] <nadia> ciel, no entiendo vc?
[11:28] <ciel> ok, um poco de espanhol?
[11:28] <cyphase> jonny, you do the bugzilla stuff, i'll do the desktop part
[11:28] <ciel> pode ser
[11:28] <frank23> sunshine82: I had the same error after installing network-manager and vmware at the same time
[11:29] <cyphase> that OK?
[11:29] <sunshine82> frank23 i got it it in sypatic
[11:29] <nadia> ciel...  solo espanol para mi.
[11:29] <frank23> sunshine82: wait I still have that error message
[11:29] <sublime> someone can helpme with wine, i had wine instaled but i can't run it, my error is http://pastebin.com/404532
[11:29] <amitayk> bob2: It's saying the xserver-org is not installed and no info is available.
[11:29] <jonny> ok
[11:29] <ciel> para nosotros serve...
[11:29] <frank23> sunshine82: so its not really a problem
[11:29] <cyphase> you don't even have to integrate it into bugzilla. it just needs to be able to access/understand the bugzilla database
[11:29] <jonny> email?
[11:29] <ciel> yo quiero una persona para hablar...
[11:29] <sunshine82> frank23 what do u mean
[11:29] <bob2> amitayk: xserver-xorg
[11:29] <cyphase> jonny, pm
[11:29] <nadia> ciel, que idioma hablas?  Italiano?
[11:29] <jonny> k
[11:29] <bob2> cyphase: you are never going to get access to the db
[11:29] <ciel> portugues
[11:29] <bob2> cyphase: bugzilla has an xml-rpc interface, tho, allegedly
[11:29] <jonny> ill have it to u in a week or so
[11:30] <ciel> i am from brasil] 
[11:30] <soxfun> hola
[11:30] <frank23> sunshine82: I mean the error message you have is not really a problem
[11:30] <cyphase> bob2, i know i'm not going to..
[11:30] <sunshine82> frank23 dmesg is giving me that error and gqcam say /dev/video dont exist
[11:30] <frank23> It doesn't matter
[11:30] <nadia> ciel, portuges..
[11:30] <bob2> cyphase: you could poke at that
[11:30] <cyphase> but maybe the admins will install the app
[11:30] <soxfun> alguien me puede echar una mano?
[11:30] <titanium> tried removing Seveas's build for breezy and installing the kanotix one for the hell of it... i get the exact same problem. this makes no sense.
[11:30] <cyphase> what xml-rpc interface?
[11:30] <cyphase> nvm, i'll look it up
[11:30] <salutem333> brasil?
[11:30] <amitayk> bob2: Which X server driver I should choose?
[11:30] <sunshine82> frank23 how do i check for /dev/video
[11:30] <bob2> soxfun: please stop it
[11:30] <Seveas> titanium, the kanotix freenx will NOT work on breezy
[11:30] <soxfun> stop what?
[11:31] <talios> hey all - I've just noticed my vmware installation no longer runs after upgrading to breezy (apt-get'd),  vmware-config.pl says my kernels compiled with gcc 3.4.5 but /usr/bin/gcc is 4.0.2 - any suggestions?  is gcc 3.4.5 still available somewhere for kernel stuff?
[11:31] <frank23> sunshine82: I don't know anything about your webcam thing
[11:31] <nadia> ciel, quieres teclar vc, no entiendo que quieres decir con eso?
[11:31] <titanium> Seveas: figured as much but it's interesting that i get an identical problem. perhaps there's something on my system from kanotix that is remaining when i try to install yours?
[11:31] <sunshine82> my webcam is not bein shown on this cat /proc/bus/usb/devices in terminal does anyone know why
[11:31] <sunshine82> now my dmesg dont want to work i keep gettin this error  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/seri
[11:31] <frank23> talios: install gcc-3.4    export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4    run vmware config script
[11:31] <sunshine82> my webcam is not bein shown on this cat /proc/bus/usb/devices in terminal does anyone know why
[11:31] <thrush> new vmware freeware in the repos?
[11:31] <nadia> soxfun...  puedo ver si te alludo.
[11:31] <ciel> quiero dicir q necessito hablar con usted...
[11:31] <talios> frank23, sweet
[11:32] <talios> cheers
[11:32] <Seveas> nadia, ciel: srick to english in here please
[11:32] <frank23> talios: np
[11:32] <sunshine82> when i see lsmod i see the webcam .ko file
[11:32] <soxfun> oh, ok
[11:32] <Seveas> there are localized channels if english is not your preferred language
[11:32] <soxfun> that was the stop :D
[11:32] <soxfun> sorry
[11:32] <soxfun> no matter
[11:32] <bob2> talios: install gcc-3.4
[11:32] <sunshine82> gnome meeting just say there are no devices
[11:32] <bob2> talios: CC=gcc-3.4 ./vmwareconfigscript.whatever
[11:32] <sunshine82> frneed help.....
[11:32] <bob2> talios: also, you need the any2any patch, or the vmware drivers will oops your kernel on load
[11:32] <nadia> ciel, te refieres a irc o a ubuntu?
[11:33] <HaShofet> ...
[11:33] <jonny> 63%
[11:33] <frank23> bob2: the any2any patch? I don't have that and it works
[11:33] <bob2> nadia: pretty clearly an english-speakign channel
[11:33] <bob2> frank23: with kernel 2.6.12-8 or newer?
[11:33] <nadia> sorry... just trying to help, is there a portuguse channel I can refer ciel too?
[11:34] <sven-tek> !deps
[11:34] <ubotu> sven-tek: Are you smoking crack?
[11:34] <bob2> !+portuguese
[11:34] <ubotu> bob2: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:34] <bob2> I wish I had portuguese chicken for breakfast
[11:34] <frank23> bob2: 2.6.12-9-k7  but there is a problem if I try to install network-manager. then my whole systems becomes very unstable. maybe the any2any patch would fix that
[11:34] <yaaar> anybody know a good resource for getting videos to play in firefox? I've got the totem mozilla plugin installed, but all the videos i've tried just come up as a black screen
[11:34] <iceman> bob2 one erreor in flood
[11:35] <sunshine82> need help.....
[11:35] <bob2> frank23: do you have vmnet loaded?
[11:35] <bob2> sunshine82: need ask question..........
[11:35] <talios> mmm, somethigns still not right.  *tinkers*
[11:35] <ciel> me refiro a ubuntu
[11:35] <bob2> iceman: that's not an error
[11:35] <frank23> yaaar: I use the mediaplayerconnectivity extension
[11:35] <sunshine82> bob2 my webcam is not bein shown on this cat /proc/bus/usb/devices in terminal does anyone know why
[11:35] <frank23> bob2: yes vmnet is loaded
[11:35] <ciel> pero quiero utilizar messenger in my ubuntu
[11:35] <iceman> that is.. sorry to any windows running here
[11:35] <titanium> Seveas: any other ideas on what to try? :(
[11:35] <sunshine82> bob2 gnome meeting just say there are no devices
[11:36] <mohkohn> Still very stuck with this: iRiver iFP device not found. iRiverT30 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81513&highlight=iriver+t30
[11:36] <bob2> iceman: mkdir /home/iceman (in the chroot)(
[11:36] <e1tiger4lidt> Hey! do anyone know how i can get messenger to work with ubuntu?
[11:36] <sunshine82> bob2 when i see lsmod i see the webcam .ko file
[11:36] <Seveas> titanium, not right now
[11:36] <yaaar> frank23: do i install that through synaptic, or go to 'get more extensions' in firefox? also, do you think it'll fight with the totem plugin?
[11:36] <agt> ciel::  #ubuntu-pt
[11:36] <bob2> frank23: very odd, it was entirely reproducible for me, and lots of other people...maybe because it's k7? or you're just lucky ;)
[11:36] <sunshine82> bob2 now my dmesg dont want to work i keep gettin this error  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/seri
[11:36] <bob2> e1tiger4lidt: use gaim
[11:36] <sunshine82> bob2 can u help me
[11:37] <iceman> all  i get in flood again
[11:37] <e1tiger4lidt> thanks!
[11:37] <sunshine82> bob2 gqcam say /dev/video dont exist how do i check
[11:37] <ciel> thanks guys...
[11:37] <frank23> yaaar: in get more extensions. If it doesn't work the first time, reload the page. It doesn't seem to fight with the totem plugin
[11:37] <jonny> cyphase:70%
[11:37] <bob2> sunshine82: I don't understand your question, but it sounds like you need to google for some documentation about your device
[11:37] <ciel> here in brazil no have gaim
[11:38] <cyphase> uhh..
[11:38] <cyphase> ciel, gaim can be used anywhere
[11:38] <ciel> ok, please...
[11:38] <ciel> download gaim???
[11:38] <frank23> bob2: I have kubuntu. The any2any patch might be what I need however to get network-manager working
[11:38] <amitayk> bob2: Which X server driver I should choose?
[11:38] <iceman> bob2 im ready to just install 32 bit... this sucks ..
[11:38] <bob2> iceman: uh
[11:38] <cyphase> ciel, it's preinstalled with ubuntu
[11:38] <bob2> iceman: in. the. chroot.
[11:38] <bob2> iceman: read what I said
[11:38] <bob2> ciel: please stop it
[11:38] <sunshine82> bob2 i need to get my webcam to work ive complied gqcam but it will not run it dev/video is gone
[11:39] <bob2> amitayk: defaults
[11:39] <ciel> ok.
[11:39] <bob2> sunshine82: please stop harassing me
[11:39] <agt> lol, uncomfortable silence
[11:39] <cyphase> lol, i was just going to say that
[11:39] <ciel> ok, active = #ubuntu-pt
[11:39] <iceman> bob2 please bear with me, i'm half lost in this ... but a generic term to someone who has no idea what the general terms might be...
[11:40] <bob2> iceman: in the chroot = in the chroot
[11:40] <frank23> bob2: what does the any2any thing do?
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> sunshine82 : you probably dont have a linux compatible webcam
[11:40] <bob2> iceman: running dchroot puts you in the chroot
[11:40] <sunshine82> bob2 im harassin ya i though u were tryin to help sorry................
[11:40] <cyphase> lets see if we can all be quiet for 30 seconds
[11:40] <dyno> hi
[11:40] <cyphase> ;)
[11:40] <bob2> frank23: adds a compatibility layer so the kernel doesn't explode when the binary vmware moduels expect an old interface
[11:40] <bob2> (or so I gather)
[11:40] <titanium> Seveas: i dont know if it would matter but when i try apt-get install nxclient it gives me an error about the file not being a valid .deb package
[11:40] <cyphase> no talking about syno everyone
[11:40] <cyphase> dyno*
[11:40] <dyno> ?
[11:40] <frank23> bob2: can I get it on vmware's site?
[11:41] <jonny> I DONT THINK ITS POSSIBLE, CYPHASE
[11:41] <sunshine82> lsuactiafner how can check
[11:41] <cyphase> lol, lower your case ;)
[11:41] <cyphase> what's not possible?
[11:41] <bob2> frank23: I think so
[11:41] <iceman> bob2 how to run chroot ... lost me
[11:41] <frank23> bob2: ok thanks
[11:41] <bob2> iceman: do you know what a chroot is?
[11:41] <dyno> does anyone tried to install a rme multiface card on a ubuntu system?
[11:41] <sunshine82> lsuactiafner my driver is linux nw802
[11:41] <jonny> oh sorry, I didnt realize that
[11:41] <dyno> someone*
[11:41] <iceman> bob2 i do not even know it it is properly install, or what it is ...
[11:42] <bob2> dyno: is it PCI? is there a driver in the mainline kernel?
[11:42] <cyphase> jonny, what's not possible?
[11:42] <bob2> iceman: so, every system has a root directory, /, right?
[11:42] <dyno> bob2, it's pcmcia
[11:42] <ciel> by
[11:42] <bob2> dyno: does it have a driver in the kernel?
[11:42] <iceman> bob2 i understand that ...
[11:42] <frank23> iceman: to install a chroot look in the forums for instruction. My suggestion for getting everything to work easily and painlessly is to use Ubuntu x86 however
[11:42] <jonny> quiet for 30 seconds is not possible
[11:42] <dyno> there's a driver in the kernel boabsta
[11:42] <dyno> there's a driver in the kernel bob2
[11:42] <dyno> bob2, (hdsp)
[11:43] <dyno> bob2, but it seems that i need to install alsatools
[11:43] <bob2> iceman: chroot = change root
[11:43] <bob2> iceman: it lets you alter what some processes consider / to be
[11:43] <dyno> with hdspmixer and hdsploader
[11:43] <jonny> 75%
[11:43] <iceman> frank23 where i am ready to toast a 64 bit install.
[11:43] <iceman> bob2 check my post in flood .
[11:43] <bob2> iceman: so, inside /chroot/ is a whole little system, and whe nyou run 'dchroot', you lock things inside it
[11:44] <bob2> iceman: so, you need to go into the chroot, and make /home/iceman.  in the chroot, not in your normal system
[11:44] <thrush> jonny: quick hit ctrl-c!
[11:44] <dyno> bob2, and it doesn't want to be installed ( make does not pass )
[11:44] <cyphase> jonny, don't
[11:44] <frank23> iceman: that's what I did. ran 64bit for 2 months and switched to 32 bit
[11:44] <cyphase> lol
[11:44] <iceman> bob2 tried to make
[11:44] <jonny> ok i wont
[11:44] <bob2> iceman: another option would be 'sudo mkdir /chroot/home/whatever ; sudo chown whatever /chroot/home/whatever'
[11:44] <cyphase> lol
[11:44] <jonny> wats it do
[11:44] <alumno> comand for delite directoris ? which is ?
[11:44] <bob2> alumno: rmdir
[11:44] <alumno> thanks
[11:44] <cyphase> jonny, it would have stopped your download
[11:44] <amitayk> bob2: I've finished should I restart my computer?
[11:45] <cyphase> you could have continued, but still..
[11:45] <frank23> alumno: or rm -r dir  will delete directory and everything inside
[11:45] <bob2> amitayk: no, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:45] <jonny> uhh that would stink
[11:45] <cyphase> very much so
[11:45] <jonny> IN yo face TRUSH!
[11:45] <bob2> iceman: do you know the difference between 'mkdir /home' and 'mkdir home'?
[11:45] <techsolo> hey this channel does really exists :-)
[11:45] <iceman> bob2 where i would rather risk letting a person with actual knowledge in via a ssh than my sit here and fight and fight this.. her i have been 1  day just trying ...
[11:45] <jonny> 81%
[11:45] <alumno> thanks for help ;) bob2 frank23
[11:46] <bob2> iceman: do you know the difference?
[11:46] <iceman> bob2 no .... /home would be a actual folder i think
[11:47] <bob2> iceman: no
[11:47] <bob2> iceman: /home = 'home' inside /
[11:47] <bob2> iceman: 'home' = 'home' in the current directory
[11:47] <bob2> iceman: sudo, 'cd /chroot ; mkdir home'
[11:47] <agt> Sound doesn't work in any of my games... I can play music, watch video with sound, hear gaim alerts... but nothing in games. Suggestions?
[11:47] <WinZ> Have anybody a .config of kernel 2.6.12 for DELL Latitude C600 or the same?
[11:47] <dyno> esd sucks
[11:47] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:/chroot$
[11:47] <iceman>   so i am in the chroot directory .. that i know
[11:48] <amitayk> bob2: Done. Still no mouse to work with...
[11:48] <dyno> no one know rme here...
[11:48] <dyno> and ubuntu too
[11:48] <bob2> iceman: now 'sudo mkdir home ; sudo mkdir home/iceman'
[11:48] <thrush> jonny: conciousness can affect objects on the quantum level jonny. ::concentrates on screwing up jonnys download::
[11:48] <bob2> dyno: sounds kidna obscure, what does google tell you?
[11:49] <bob2> WinZ: uh, the ubuntu kernel doesn't work?
[11:49] <dyno> nothing that's why i came here
[11:49] <srbaker> yo
[11:49] <WinZ> boabsta, it's working.. but it's default
[11:49] <iceman> bob2 ok that had no errors
[11:49] <WinZ> bob2, it's working.. but it's default
[11:49] <jonny> thrush, im 12 years old, i have no idea wat that means
[11:49] <srbaker> does ubuntu livecd have a tool that will either a) install a winxp mbr, or b) reset an admin password?
[11:49] <bob2> iceman: now dchroot in again
[11:49] <srbaker> i have to get the winxp mbr back on this laptop that i had ubuntu on.
[11:49] <bob2> srbaker: no
[11:49] <sunshine82> does anyone know how i can check to see if i have  a linux compatble webcam
[11:49] <thrush> its ok im 17 and i dont know what it means :)
[11:50] <digits> srbaker, winxp install cd has
[11:50] <srbaker> yes
[11:50] <jonny> well, wats it mean
[11:50] <srbaker> winxp install cd wants the administrator password
[11:50] <srbaker> my boss' laptop.  he doesn't know the admin passowrd either
[11:50] <digits> lol
[11:50] <iceman> bob2 see flood ? lost me
[11:50] <bob2> srbaker: you'll need to find that linux ntfs smashing boot disk
[11:50] <srbaker> damnit
[11:50] <KurtKraut> Windows has a local cache for DNS reverse. This cache is cleaned thru ipconfig /flushdns. This kind fo cache exists on Ubuntu ? How could I flush it ?
[11:50] <jonny> why did u want to screw up my download anyway?
[11:50] <joachim> what are the two funny bars below the list of names on xchat?
[11:50] <srbaker> apparently Knoppix STD does it
[11:51] <linux-noob> Hey, IS there a Boot flopy that will have driver for a USB cdrom so i can instll ubuntu on my laptop
[11:51] <bob2> KurtKraut: nscd may be caching it
[11:51] <titanium> "Please ensure that SSHD on localhost accepts password authentication."  would that just be /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[11:51] <KurtKraut> bob2, nscd ?
[11:51] <bob2> titanium: that's the default, tho
[11:51] <titanium> crap :(
[11:51] <bob2> KurtKraut: name service caching daemon, or something
[11:51] <linux-noob> Hey, IS there a Boot flopy that will have driver for a USB cdrom so i can instll ubuntu on my laptop
[11:51] <iceman> bob2 this sucks, 1 day wasted, and still fighting this...
[11:51] <keyes> If I Active DMA on a system using an AMD, VIA or Intel chipset can I break it or dma will just be not actived?
[11:52] <sunshine82> how to i check for /dev/video
[11:52] <techsolo> cat /dev/video
[11:52] <bob2> iceman: I'm sure you're frustrated, but it's frustrating for me to have to walk you through things while you complain
[11:52] <linux-noob> Hey, IS there a Boot flopy that will have driver for a USB cdrom so i can instll ubuntu on my laptop
[11:52] <amitayk> bob2: Done. Still no mouse to work with...
[11:52] <talios> anyone here got vmware working under breezy?  I just reconfigured it (thanks bob2, frank23) with gcc 3.4.x but no joy - seems some issues with the virtual network drivers and stuff....
[11:52] <KurtKraut> bob2, but it is not stantard on Ubuntu, is it ?
[11:53] <P8ntKid> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu hoary, but i want to upgrade to breezy without having to download another Cd. How do I do this?
[11:53] <thrush> jonny: evil is is evil does
[11:53] <bob2> KurtKraut: don't think so
[11:53] <bob2> KurtKraut: why do you think your rDNS resolution is being cached?
[11:53] <iceman> bob2 see #flood
[11:53] <bob2> talios: yes, you need the any2any patch
[11:53] <techsolo> sunshine82:  cat /dev/video
[11:53] <bob2> iceman: dude
[11:54] <bob2> iceman: read your prompt
[11:54] <bob2> iceman: you're in the chroot
[11:54] <bob2> iceman: you've won
[11:54] <pizux> yop
[11:54] <jonny> u r evil!
[11:54] <mohkohn> srbaker knoppix has a tool called install-mbr
[11:54] <KurtKraut> P8ntKid, you may try sudo dist-upgrade, but I strongly recommend you to burn a CD and install it on scrathc
[11:54] <pizux> try to install planeshuft and got that Checking if dialog program is installed...
[11:54] <pizux> Dialog program, which is required to use this software, cannot be found.
[11:54] <pizux> Please install this program before continuing Planeshift installation.
[11:54] <pizux> You may obtain it from your distribution FTP or install disk.
[11:54] <digits> srbaker, are you just out after resetting the mbr?
[11:54] <joachim> P8ntKid, yeah, upgrade from hoary has been a bit troublesome for a few people :(
[11:55] <pizux> what is dialog program
[11:55] <KurtKraut> P8ntKid, wrong command... try sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[11:55] <talios> bob2, cheers - just found a thread on ubutuforums about it - downloading the patch
[11:55] <sunshine82> techsolo it say no such device for /dev/video
[11:55] <bob2> P8ntKid: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[11:55] <mohkohn> if you are in a position to burn it then you just run the command sudo install-mbr /dev/hda
[11:55] <techsolo> ah then there aint a video device
[11:55] <slicslak> what cli util can i use to add/remove init.d scripts from run levels?
[11:55] <thrush> P8ntKid: change everything 'hoary' to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get upgrade, then distupgrade
[11:55] <techsolo> sunshine82:  ah then there aint a video device
[11:55] <P8ntKid> thrush, Are you sure that will work?
[11:56] <jonny> FINISHED DOWNLOAD!!!
[11:56] <thrush> P8ntKid: no.  good luck
[11:56] <bob2> slicslak: update-rc.d, or just rm/ln
[11:56] <thrush> :)
[11:56] <bob2> P8ntKid: read the wiki page I pointed oyu at, it explains all you need
[11:56] <jonny> now what?
[11:56] <slicslak> bob2, thanks
[11:56] <sunshine82> techsolo nah that the problem ive installed but it still say
[11:56] <iceman> bob2 now wheres wine then
[11:56] <bob2> iceman: what does 'file /bin/ls' print out, while you're in the chroot?
[11:56] <jonny> cyphas?
[11:56] <Zeep> bob2: Hello again ;
[11:56] <steigweis> no net-connection on breezy with pcmcia nic. (with debian sarge it worked) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=437873 pleasegive me a hint, in which direction to look for a solution.
[11:57] <techsolo> sunshine82: what are you trying to install?
[11:57] <thrush> P8ntKid: i recently upgraded that way not problems
[11:57] <bob2> Zeep: hi
[11:57] <sunshine82> techsolo after i install /dev/video i put in chmod 666
[11:57] <cyphase> hey jonny
[11:57] <bob2> iceman: you're getting ahead of yourself...run the command I gave you
[11:57] <cyphase> ok, do you have a blank cd?
[11:57] <iceman> bob2 in flood
[11:57] <titanium> Seveas: okay i've turned on logging in node.conf and after trying to connect with the windows nx client nothing is written to the log. it seems like the client isnt even ATTEMPTING to connect.
[11:57] <blair> another day, another bug
[11:57] <thrush> jonny: its corrupted
[11:57] <shandar> has anyone in here gotten lazarus to work?
[11:57] <sunshine82> techsolo well im tryin to set up my webcam i was trying to install gqcam to test it out but nothin seem to be workin outy
[11:57] <techsolo> sunshine82: /dev/video is what you get when you modprobe the driver for a television tuner card
[11:57] <iceman> bob2 a generic command to a knowing person .. great, but i am lost
[11:58] <cyphase> thrush, and how would you know
[11:58] <cyphase> lol
[11:58] <techsolo> sunshine82: and those bath habbits with chmod
[11:58] <Seveas> titanium, right... are you sure you put in the correct IP address and that there's no firewall in the way?
[11:58] <bob2> iceman: I don't even know what you're talking about
[11:58] <bob2> iceman: 'file /chroot/bin/ls' from outside the chroot, then
[11:58] <titanium> Seveas: it's on my local network, going through the router. 192.168.0.12 to ssh to it... 192.168.0.12 in nxclient chokes
[11:58] <sunshine82> techsolo could u help me fix it please
[11:58] <cyphase> jonny, you there?
[11:58] <iceman> bob2  file /bin/ls  ... command not found
[11:58] <techsolo> sunshine82: shure
[11:58] <sunshine82> techsolo i really dont know what to do
[11:58] <titanium> it has no monitor, kb, or mouse, and i'm controlling it entirely through ssh. so it's connected and such for sure
[11:58] <techsolo> sunshine82: what type of cam
[11:59] <blair> anyone know why hotplug startup locks up during boot if i'm booting clean but not if i'm booting after power-cycling to get past the locked up hotplug startup?
[11:59] <sunshine82> techsolo my webcam is ame cu-98a
[11:59] <bob2> iceman: 07:58:37           bob2 | iceman: 'file /chroot/bin/ls' from outside the chroot, then
[11:59] <slicslak> gentoo has a init.d/local for starting user added stuff, and conf.d.local.[start|stop]  for specifying said stuff.  does ubuntu/debian have something similar?
[11:59] <sunshine82> techsolo the driver is divio nw802
[11:59] <bob2> blair: sounds like dodge hardware
[11:59] <amitayk> bob2: I'm back in the GUI, but still without a working mouse. What can I do next?
[11:59] <blair> bob2: this hw is in phoenix
[11:59] <bob2> amitayk: sounds like you didn't configure X to use /dev/psaux
[11:59] <techsolo> sunshine82: and dit you modprobed that one
[11:59] <blair> dodge is up thataway a fair piece
[12:00] <jonny> sorry went to get some cd-rs what now?