| Kyral | Note to self....compress mail archives.... | 12:03 |
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| ajmitch | Kyral: what, don't you want 5GB of mail? | 12:04 |
| Nafallo | note to self: get more harddrives for the server | 12:04 |
| Kyral | Actually my /home is on a 260 GB partition.... | 12:04 |
| ajmitch | du -sch ~/Mail | 12:04 |
| ajmitch | 5.1G /home/ajmitch/Mail | 12:04 |
| ajmitch | 5.1G total | 12:04 |
| ajmitch | *cough* | 12:04 |
| ajmitch | way too much email there | 12:04 |
| Kyral | lol | 12:04 |
| whiprush | man | 12:04 |
| === Kyral hands ajmitch the gzip command | ||
| whiprush | that's just too much | 12:05 |
| siretart | tiber/revu is now operational with breezy! :) | 12:05 |
| Kyral | eh? | 12:05 |
| siretart | ajmitch: you may reconnect now ;) | 12:05 |
| Kyral | Yah I feel like an idiot | 12:05 |
| Kyral | Yanno that gtkorphan package? I forgot to check with the original author to see if he planned to submit it to REVU >_< | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | Kyral: there are a few bz2 mail folders in there | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | Kyral: don't worry, he visits here as well | 12:06 |
| Kyral | Yah but now I feel like an idiot ;P | 12:06 |
| Kyral | Oh well no harm no foul | 12:15 |
| Kyral | So who has already dist-upgraded to Dapper? ;P | 12:15 |
| siretart | hrhr | 12:16 |
| Kyral | hrhr? | 12:16 |
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| Nafallo | Kyral: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ | 12:18 |
| Nafallo | Kyral: can you see it yet? ;-) | 12:18 |
| Kyral | Oh ooops ;P | 12:18 |
| Kyral | Sorry, overeager I guess :D | 12:18 |
| ajmitch | there's not much to dist-upgrade to yet | 12:20 |
| Kyral | good point | 12:20 |
| Kyral | whats the first thing to do anyway.... | 12:20 |
| ajmitch | proxy server at work is going out of its way to annoy me today | 12:21 |
| siretart | okay, work for today done. gn8 folks! | 12:23 |
| Kyral | cya | 12:23 |
| ajmitch | bye siretart | 12:24 |
| === sistpoty is off to bed | ||
| sistpoty | gn8 folks | 12:31 |
| Kyral | Judging by the amount of X Libs being uploaded, I'm thinking X is gonna break again.... | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | nah | 12:33 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 12:33 |
| Kyral | Are we going to XOrg 7 with this one? | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | probably | 12:34 |
| Kyral | Niiiiice | 12:34 |
| ajmitch | once all the bits are in place | 12:34 |
| ajmitch | we already have something similar | 12:34 |
| Kyral | Yah 6.8 right? | 12:34 |
| ajmitch | 7.0 is just 6.9 with a modular build tree | 12:34 |
| ajmitch | and we have 6.8+cvs with modular build | 12:34 |
| Kyral | Yah, I'm looking forward not to have to download a dozen drivers that I don't use | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | daniels is upstream for a fair bit of the build stuff :) | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | you don't have to now | 12:35 |
| Kyral | Yah....what would happen if I remove one of the driver packs? | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | it should still work | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | it was split for a reason | 12:35 |
| Kyral | (Seeing as I compile the NVidia Module from NVidia due to my custom kernel)\ | 12:35 |
| Kyral | I still have to get that thing to load on boot.... | 12:36 |
| Nafallo | ogra: your buildlog thing eats dapper now, right? :-) | 12:38 |
| ajmitch | yay, managed to trim my mutt headers a bit | 12:39 |
| ogra | Nafallo, what ever lamonts daily.html spits out | 12:39 |
| ajmitch | now it looks a bit cleaner | 12:39 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 12:39 |
| ajmitch | gnargh | 12:42 |
| ajmitch | need food | 12:42 |
| ajmitch | oh good | 12:45 |
| ajmitch | DebianPatchFeeding | 12:45 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: ? | 12:45 |
| ajmitch | much needed spec :P | 12:45 |
| ajmitch | looks like the page is on the BOF list | 12:45 |
| ajmitch | but dilinger hasn't finished writing the page | 12:46 |
| === ajmitch needs to do some uploads.. | ||
| crimsun | I'm working on lincvs | 12:54 |
| Nafallo | lol | 12:54 |
| Nafallo | why? as if daniels is finished with the buildds yet? ;-) | 12:54 |
| ajmitch | we need to get our fix | 12:55 |
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| schweeb | hooray for dapper | 01:11 |
| schweeb | any motu work to be done yet? | 01:11 |
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| crimsun | schweeb: I've started troughing through the rest of unmetdeps | 01:12 |
| crimsun | (preferring syncs at this point) | 01:13 |
| schweeb | I've got a bit more time to help this time around | 01:13 |
| schweeb | I need to figureo out whether mako actually marked me as a member or not :P | 01:18 |
| schweeb | *figure | 01:18 |
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| Mirno | Hi | 01:20 |
| Mirno | siretart: ping | 01:20 |
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| tseng | schweeb is a member at large | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | so, is dapper open? I got a bunch of emails from dapper-changes | 01:39 |
| Nafallo | LaserJock: yes :-) | 01:40 |
| Nafallo | but I can't see it at archive.ubuntu.com :-/ | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | did they just transfer subscriptions from breezy-changes ? I don't remember signing up for dapper-changes | 01:41 |
| Nafallo | yes :-) | 01:41 |
| LaserJock | who is Daniel Stone? | 01:42 |
| Nafallo | daniels? | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | oh, doh | 01:43 |
| Nafallo | :-P | 01:43 |
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| Nafallo | is it just me or do we have an FTBFS'r'us in dapper? ;-) | 01:56 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: that's the plan | 01:56 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 01:57 |
| Nafallo | so, where to start? :-P | 01:57 |
| ajmitch | just dive in | 01:57 |
| ajmitch | hopefully autosyncs start flooding soon | 01:57 |
| ajmitch | so far I've only seen manual uploads | 01:58 |
| Nafallo | ehm, that's what FTBFS, no? | 01:58 |
| ajmitch | hm? | 01:59 |
| Nafallo | just can't see them announced? | 01:59 |
| ajmitch | I don't see many FTBFS of recent uploads | 01:59 |
| ajmitch | I see a lot of FTBFS of stuff currently in the archive that's still broken | 02:00 |
| Nafallo | what's all the stuff like motor and xprint then? | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | motor | 2:3.4.0-3 | http://10.18.1.1 breezy/universe Packages | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | motor | 2:3.4.0-3 | http://10.18.1.1 breezy/universe Sources | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | *cough* | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | that's not an autosync | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | that's just the buildds having everything given back | 02:00 |
| Nafallo | hmm, oki :-P | 02:01 |
| Nafallo | why? to get breezy built for dapper? | 02:02 |
| ajmitch | because it's a reasonably automated process once the buildds are turned back on? | 02:02 |
| Nafallo | hmm, that probably means that I should stop looking :-) | 02:04 |
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| sivang | good night all | 02:08 |
| sivang | alreayd past my timezone :) | 02:08 |
| Nafallo | gnight sivang :-) | 02:08 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:46 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: why haven't you started uploading yet?!? | 02:46 |
| tseng | haha | 02:47 |
| tseng | yes | 02:47 |
| === Kyral falls | ||
| tseng | fix universe harder | 02:47 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Because I suck? :-) | 02:47 |
| Kyral | Compiling VLC from Sid is harder than I thought | 02:47 |
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| Fuji-san | hello | 02:51 |
| Fuji-san | am i welcome here | 02:51 |
| Fuji-san | no dutch people i hope :/ | 02:51 |
| bddebian | Everyone is welcome here.. Except trolls of course :-) | 02:51 |
| Kyral | yah | 02:51 |
| Fuji-san | haha | 02:51 |
| bddebian | And maybe us Americans ;-P | 02:52 |
| Kyral | Go go Dapper! | 02:52 |
| Fuji-san | i make alot of bad jokes but i'm not a troll | 02:52 |
| Kyral | I hope my homebrew VLC backport works.... | 02:52 |
| Fuji-san | :-) | 02:52 |
| Fuji-san | i loive ubuntu :) | 02:52 |
| Kyral | appending the ~ string to a version will allow any other official Ubuntu package to overwrite it? | 02:52 |
| Fuji-san | oh shit JanC and Seveas are here :/ | 02:53 |
| Fuji-san | the dutch are everywhere .. ':(( | 02:53 |
| === Kyral looks at bddebian | ||
| Seveas | Fuji-san, stop making a fool of yourself in every ubuntu channel please | 02:53 |
| Kyral | You have any clue oh Most High MOTU? | 02:53 |
| === ajmitch points bddebian to Kyral's question | ||
| bddebian | Kyral: ? | 02:54 |
| Fuji-san | ok Sepheebear | 02:54 |
| Fuji-san | ok Seveas*** | 02:54 |
| tseng | if you dont bump the version | 02:54 |
| Kyral | bddebian, I meant why Fuji-san is afraid of the dutch | 02:54 |
| bddebian | Kyral: I've never seen ~ in a version | 02:54 |
| bddebian | Kyral: Oh :-) | 02:54 |
| tseng | the same numbered version will overwrite it from the archive | 02:54 |
| Kyral | The Backports use it | 02:54 |
| tseng | vs a local dpkg install | 02:54 |
| Fuji-san | because i'm half chinese and china is taking alot of their jobs :) | 02:54 |
| Kyral | that way it doesn't screw up | 02:54 |
| Kyral | ie, <version>~ubp1 | 02:55 |
| tseng | im not sure what macro-economics has to do with motu | 02:55 |
| Fuji-san | nothing tseng | 02:55 |
| tseng | its not railroad-era california | 02:56 |
| Fuji-san | you also chinese tseng? | 02:56 |
| tseng | no. | 02:56 |
| Fuji-san | ok | 02:56 |
| ajmitch | Fuji-san: it's rather irrelevant here | 02:56 |
| Fuji-san | i know | 02:56 |
| Fuji-san | i stopped | 02:56 |
| Fuji-san | dont worry | 02:56 |
| Kyral | So | 02:58 |
| Kyral | How long until the current REVU queue is empty of VALID packages (I know two of mine aren't ;) ) | 02:58 |
| ajmitch | Kyral: how long is a piece of string? | 02:59 |
| Kyral | how long did you cut it ;P | 02:59 |
| ajmitch | remember that it's MOTU time that's needed | 02:59 |
| tseng | thats a good question | 02:59 |
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| Kyral | and I was just trying to change the topic of convo with that question ;P | 02:59 |
| Fuji-san | i'm a kiwi btw | 03:00 |
| Fuji-san | ;) | 03:00 |
| Kyral | You're a fruit? | 03:00 |
| ajmitch | no, he's being silly | 03:01 |
| bddebian | hehe | 03:01 |
| Kyral | Aw screw VLC for now | 03:01 |
| Kyral | I'll wait until the source packages for Dapper are done being uploaded | 03:01 |
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| Kyral | Xine and Totem can take up the slack | 03:01 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: merge bugs will start to get filed when autosyncs start | 03:02 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: so please, be patient | 03:02 |
| Kyral | whats an autosync? | 03:02 |
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| ajmitch | Kyral: an automatic sync from debian | 03:02 |
| Kyral | ah | 03:02 |
| Kyral | so from Sid to Dapper in this case? | 03:02 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: :-) | 03:03 |
| ajmitch | Kyral: yes | 03:03 |
| Fuji-san | ajmitch :-)) | 03:03 |
| tseng | i am enjoying introdeveloperdocs | 03:03 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I'm outta commish for a week or two anyway probably :-( | 03:03 |
| Kyral | hehe | 03:03 |
| Kyral | I'm just blindly doing whatever :D | 03:03 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: I'll be away for ~3 weeks | 03:03 |
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| Nafallo | bddebian AND ajmitch gone? :-P | 03:05 |
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| Kyral | so nothing really to do until the autosyncs? | 03:05 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: Yeah so you folks should actually be able to get something done.. ;-P | 03:05 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: ;-) | 03:05 |
| === schweeb mumbles somthing about crashed hard drives | ||
| ajmitch | Nafallo: I'll be gone at UBZ | 03:05 |
| schweeb | stupid server HD crashed :( | 03:05 |
| Kyral | I;ll be there on Sunday D: | 03:06 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: wouldn't you be gone after that aswell | 03:06 |
| Nafallo | ? | 03:06 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: yes, I | 03:06 |
| ajmitch | I'm gone until the 17th | 03:06 |
| Nafallo | hopefully I can be active merging. | 03:06 |
| Kyral | Don't worry I'll be here! *Waits for laughter* | 03:06 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: yeah, I wish I could say the same | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | I'll be onlin until the 9th or 10th | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | so I can be uploading from UBZ | 03:07 |
| Nafallo | seems I'll be getting a practical place somewhere so I have no idea about computertime in the near future. | 03:08 |
| schweeb | ajmitch: I blame my HD crash on you | 03:12 |
| schweeb | ajmitch: or maybe tseng | 03:12 |
| ajmitch | schweeb: feel free | 03:12 |
| ajmitch | schweeb: I care about >< that much | 03:12 |
| ajmitch | ;) | 03:12 |
| Fuji-san | ;) | 03:12 |
| Fuji-san | i like you ajmitch | 03:13 |
| Fuji-san | :) | 03:13 |
| schweeb | no one likes ajmitch | 03:13 |
| tseng | schweeb: blar | 03:13 |
| tseng | schweeb: you are a member at large | 03:13 |
| ajmitch | schweeb: you're right | 03:13 |
| tseng | you arent even allowed in here | 03:13 |
| schweeb | tseng: I'm back | 03:13 |
| schweeb | I had a lot of work to do | 03:13 |
| tseng | i heard that before | 03:13 |
| tseng | busy moving tapes? | 03:13 |
| bddebian | heh | 03:13 |
| schweeb | I don't even have tapes anymore, bitch | 03:13 |
| schweeb | I have CDLs | 03:14 |
| tseng | arent you fancy | 03:14 |
| schweeb | they cost more than you're worth :p | 03:14 |
| tseng | i have something here for you | 03:14 |
| whiprush | m|m? | 03:14 |
| tseng | yep | 03:14 |
| schweeb | hrm? | 03:14 |
| ajmitch | heh | 03:15 |
| whiprush | has anyone seen mez lately? | 03:15 |
| bddebian | Not recently | 03:15 |
| ajmitch | nope | 03:15 |
| whiprush | hmmm | 03:15 |
| schweeb | whiprush: I pretty much lost all my server's data :( | 03:15 |
| ajmitch | we'll see him in a few days at UBZ | 03:15 |
| whiprush | he's going to ubz right/ | 03:15 |
| ajmitch | yes, he will be there | 03:15 |
| whiprush | schweeb: yeah i heard. sucks dude. | 03:15 |
| tseng | i cant find the damn picture | 03:17 |
| tseng | in ubuntu tags | 03:17 |
| ajmitch | tseng: a shame | 03:17 |
| schweeb | oh | 03:17 |
| whiprush | it's under udu tseng | 03:17 |
| schweeb | the ajmitch is a dirty slut picture | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | schweeb: yes, that picture | 03:18 |
| whiprush | the tag, is udu | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | hah | 03:18 |
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| Fuji-san | AJMITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 03:18 |
| schweeb | I would use a word other than slut, but it's probably more against the CoC than slut | 03:18 |
| Fuji-san | FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 03:18 |
| Fuji-san | :P | 03:18 |
| tseng | oh first one too | 03:18 |
| tseng | schweeb: http://www.flickr.com/photos/whiprush/13477862/ HAVE SOME OF THAT | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | Fuji-san: please, stop being annoying | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | one channel is bad enough, let alone two | 03:18 |
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| tseng | took me long enough | 03:19 |
| tseng | damn dude | 03:19 |
| schweeb | tseng: yes, you're becoming more useless in your old age | 03:19 |
| === CHinese is now known as trulysorry | ||
| zakame | hello all :D | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | hi zaj | 03:19 |
| === trulysorry is now known as wonthappenagain | ||
| ajmitch | oops | 03:19 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o tseng] by ChanServ | ||
| ajmitch | hi zakame | 03:19 |
| === wonthappenagain was kicked off #ubuntu-motu by tseng (knock it off) | ||
| ajmitch | thanks tseng | 03:19 |
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| tseng | oh | 03:20 |
| tseng | autojoin | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | easy enough to deal with | 03:20 |
| wonthappenagain | :((( | 03:20 |
| zakame | hehe, I thought today was the CC meeting :)) | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | not that I heard | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | but I've been out of touch with meetings | 03:20 |
| wonthappenagain | pitty me i'm a moron who just wants to make friends :(( | 03:20 |
| tseng | fix your nick and quit screwing around, please. | 03:21 |
| wonthappenagain | ok | 03:21 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o tseng] by tseng | ||
| === wonthappenagain is now known as Fuji-san | ||
| tseng | http://www.flickr.com/photos/whiprush/13477834/in/photostream/ | 03:21 |
| tseng | i forget who was boning luis? | 03:22 |
| tseng | oh, him | 03:22 |
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| crimsun | oh dear, not in -devel | 03:23 |
| schweeb | jesus | 03:23 |
| zakame | hmmm, dapper's now accessible via apt... | 03:24 |
| ajmitch | great | 03:24 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o tseng] by ChanServ | ||
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+b Fuji-san!*@*] by tseng | ||
| tseng | oh screw your irssi | 03:24 |
| schweeb | s/your/you | 03:25 |
| whiprush | try /kickban? | 03:25 |
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| === Fuji-san was kicked off #ubuntu-motu by tseng (tseng) | ||
| tseng | yes | 03:25 |
| whiprush | (bob2 rocks, not a shred of mercy in that man) | 03:25 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+b *!*@*.upc-d.chello.nl] by tseng | ||
| tseng | hows that | 03:25 |
| seth_k | ouch | 03:25 |
| ajmitch | whiprush: #ubuntu beat out all his mercy | 03:25 |
| bddebian | Better :) | 03:25 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-b Fuji-san!*@*] by tseng | ||
| schweeb | ajmitch: as it would anyone | 03:25 |
| zakame | is he g4g? | 03:25 |
| Nafallo | ehm, isn't that last ban the whole isp? :-P | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: oh well | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | I'm glad I'm not on that ISP then | 03:30 |
| Nafallo | indeed | 03:31 |
| Mirno | *!*@*.upc-d.chello.nl <- OMG .. yeah the whole isp ... | 03:32 |
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| zakame | haha | 03:32 |
| tseng | i wasnt feeling very generous | 03:33 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-b *!*@*.upc-d.chello.nl] by tseng | ||
| tseng | thats sort of easy to get around | 03:34 |
| tseng | oh well. | 03:34 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+oo Nafallo ajmitch] by tseng | ||
| tseng | for the ones that never sleep.. | 03:35 |
| tseng | who is bhuvan btw | 03:35 |
| bhuvan | :) | 03:36 |
| bhuvan | its me, Bhuvaneswaran | 03:36 |
| === tseng waves | ||
| bhuvan | ? | 03:36 |
| tseng | i dont recall meeting you, so hi | 03:37 |
| bhuvan | yeah, we didn't! | 03:37 |
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| tseng | what else is horked | 03:40 |
| crimsun | crap, now he's in kubuntu | 03:41 |
| tseng | sigh | 03:41 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: sounds like he's asking for a k-line | 03:41 |
| schweeb | what an utter douchebag | 03:42 |
| Seveas | he's been banned from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-nl too | 03:42 |
| ajmitch | and all our work stops because of some irc trolls | 03:43 |
| ajmitch | fun | 03:43 |
| bddebian | Bunch of meanies ;-) | 03:43 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: yes, we are | 03:43 |
| zakame | haha | 03:44 |
| zakame | and the one to bake our noodle's if he's in the wiki too :)) | 03:44 |
| ajmitch | zakame: don't suggest such things | 03:44 |
| zakame | ajmitch: sorry :(( | 03:45 |
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| ajmitch | now I guess I need to make my scripts more generic to handle both dapper & breezy | 05:23 |
| schweeb | what scripts? | 05:26 |
| ajmitch | evil motu stuff | 05:29 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:30 |
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| Yagisan | ajmitch: ping | 05:36 |
| ajmitch | pong | 05:37 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: what's up? | 05:37 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: you attending the #ubuntu-hardened meeting ? | 05:37 |
| ajmitch | yes | 05:37 |
| ajmitch | you won't be, I take it? | 05:37 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: I won't be able to make it :( | 05:38 |
| ajmitch | not at that hour | 05:38 |
| ajmitch | what issues do you want raised? | 05:38 |
| ajmitch | it's mainly talking about stuff to take to UBZ | 05:38 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: actually - I just wanted to see if you could get me a copy of the logs | 05:38 |
| ajmitch | oh that's not a problem | 05:39 |
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| ajmitch | fairly trivial | 05:39 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: thanks - I'm having some freenode issues - takes a while to get on | 05:40 |
| bmonty | hey all | 05:48 |
| bddebian | Heya bmonty | 05:48 |
| bmonty | looks like I can start giving you guys debdiffs again :) | 05:48 |
| bddebian | :-) | 05:49 |
| Nafallo | is mom started aswell? :-) | 05:50 |
| bmonty | Nafallo: hold on, let me wake her up and ask her :P | 05:51 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:51 |
| Nafallo | :-P | 05:52 |
| Nafallo | anyone else getting mail? ;-) | 05:52 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: mail for..? | 05:52 |
| Nafallo | from katie :-) | 05:52 |
| === ajmitch is hardly getting any mail | ||
| Nafallo | 20/min or so ;-) | 05:53 |
| ajmitch | I guess there's a bit of a lag between being subscribed & mail coming through | 05:53 |
| bmonty | Nafallo: I had 88 messages for dapper-changes | 05:54 |
| ajmitch | bmonty: ubuntu-changes-auto | 05:55 |
| Nafallo | 649 and counting :-) | 05:56 |
| === ajmitch is wgetting the mbox | ||
| Yagisan | does sharing a ccache between amd64 and i386 cause any issues ? | 05:58 |
| Yagisan | Nafallo: I worked out how to get distcc into the pbuilder as well | 05:58 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: it might | 05:58 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: but the object files will be completely different | 05:58 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: ok - I'll keep them separate then | 05:59 |
| Nafallo | nice :-) | 05:59 |
| Yagisan | Nafallo: I'll send you the pbuilderrc after I finish a few more tests so you can see how I did it | 06:00 |
| bmonty | Yagisan: doesn't distcc pick the appropriate crosscompiler as required? | 06:01 |
| Yagisan | Nafallo: then maybe someone more proficient with the wiki can update the pbuilder howto | 06:01 |
| bmonty | Yagisan: I | 06:01 |
| Nafallo | Yagisan: sure :-) | 06:01 |
| bmonty | er...I'd like to see you pbuilderrc also please | 06:01 |
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| ajmitch | bbiab | 06:02 |
| Nafallo | lol | 06:02 |
| Yagisan | bmonty: sure, I'll send it to you too. I don't think distcc picks cross compliers though (I only have 1 amd64, and a few slow i386 to test with) | 06:02 |
| Nafallo | 666 new mails in ubuntu-auto-changes :-P | 06:03 |
| bmonty | Yagisan: thanks | 06:04 |
| bmonty | I only have i386s so I have never had occasion to test, but I thought I remebered reading about crosscompilers in the docs | 06:04 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: will mom file the bugs at malone now? | 06:05 |
| bmonty | goodnight all! | 06:07 |
| Nafallo | bmonty: gnight :-) | 06:07 |
| bddebian | Gnight bmonty | 06:08 |
| Yagisan | Good night bmonty | 06:08 |
| Nafallo | Seveas: those cloaks, are they for members or just motu? | 06:12 |
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| ajmitch | Nafallo: why ask me? I'm just a lowly MOTU :) | 06:29 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: cause you know everything? :-) | 06:30 |
| ajmitch | haha | 06:31 |
| ajmitch | nah, that's bddebian | 06:31 |
| Nafallo | hihi | 06:32 |
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| bddebian | Nah, I don't know shit :-) | 06:33 |
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| ajmitch | bddebian: rubbish, you know all | 06:33 |
| Yagisan | isn't there a bbdebian is a god page on the wiki ? | 06:39 |
| ajmitch | yep | 06:39 |
| Yagisan | see, what more proof is needed :) | 06:40 |
| ajmitch | exactly | 06:40 |
| bddebian | Bah \sh is just on crack :-) | 06:41 |
| ajmitch | well yeah | 06:41 |
| ajmitch | but you're still the one & only bddebian | 06:41 |
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| bddebian | Heh. I REALLY do want to change my nick. I'm thinking maybe bddumbass? ;-P | 06:42 |
| ajmitch | bdubuntu | 06:42 |
| crimsun | well, now that you've done the "aka bddebian" in your -devel posts, you're stuck | 06:42 |
| ajmitch | maybe bdsm would be more appropriate for you ;) | 06:42 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: :) | 06:43 |
| Yagisan | :( distcc is distributing jobs | 06:44 |
| Yagisan | s/is/isn't | 06:44 |
| Nafallo | *sigh* libg :-P | 06:46 |
| ajmitch | haha | 06:46 |
| LaserJock | has anybody been to MOTUTodo lately? | 07:01 |
| bddebian | Nope :'-( | 07:02 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: can't say I have | 07:02 |
| === ajmitch watches spamassassin send the load average up | ||
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o tritium] by ChanServ | ||
| tritium | yikes | 07:03 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o tritium] by tritium | ||
| bddebian | Heya tritium | 07:03 |
| tritium | hey bddebian | 07:03 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o ajmitch] by ajmitch | ||
| ajmitch | hi tritium | 07:03 |
| tritium | hi ajmitch | 07:03 |
| tritium | What are you guys doing up so late? | 07:04 |
| ajmitch | late? | 07:04 |
| ajmitch | it's 6pm! | 07:04 |
| tritium | heh | 07:04 |
| tritium | 11 pm here | 07:04 |
| Nafallo | 7am :-) | 07:04 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: you're just nuts | 07:04 |
| tritium | wow, Nafallo | 07:04 |
| dredg | 10pm. feels like 1am | 07:04 |
| bddebian | 1am here.. Working :-( | 07:05 |
| Nafallo | shhh. I'm watching syslog recieve mail ;-). it's great fun :-). | 07:05 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: you enjoy watching the changes roll in? | 07:05 |
| tritium | bddebian: your employer is cruel | 07:05 |
| bddebian | Heh | 07:05 |
| dredg | bddebian: eugh | 07:05 |
| LaserJock | tritium: you're in Mountain time? | 07:05 |
| Nafallo | from time to time I get to update to :-) | 07:05 |
| tritium | LaserJock: yes, I am. | 07:05 |
| dredg | that siad, i'm logged into work over vpn | 07:06 |
| tritium | LaserJock: you're in Nevada, aren't you? | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | tritium: yes | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | I'm Pacific | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | would've thought you would have been too | 07:06 |
| tritium | I recall talking with you previously | 07:06 |
| tritium | No, I'm in Albuquerque | 07:06 |
| tritium | Too far from the coast, in the middle of the desert/mountains | 07:07 |
| dredg | and aw crap, everything's closed at 10m round here | 07:07 |
| dredg | pm* | 07:07 |
| dredg | screw getting food | 07:07 |
| === tritium just read the latest MOTU meeting irclog | ||
| Yagisan | dredg: over here everything shuts by 6pm :( :'( | 07:08 |
| dredg | Yagisan: wow that sucks | 07:08 |
| dredg | Yagisan: i found out here that even fast food places close before the pub does | 07:09 |
| dredg | it's...odd | 07:09 |
| ajmitch | tritium: yeah yeah, I'm a slacker | 07:09 |
| tritium | ajmitch: no, I wasn't trying to imply that | 07:09 |
| bddebian | tritium: Yeah, he is a slacker ;-P | 07:10 |
| tritium | I do agree with LaserJock's points | 07:10 |
| ajmitch | see, even bddebian agrees with me | 07:10 |
| === bddebian hugs ahm | ||
| bddebian | Err ajmitch even | 07:10 |
| ajmitch | :P | 07:10 |
| tritium | nah, ajmitch rocks | 07:11 |
| ajmitch | nah | 07:11 |
| ajmitch | I suck | 07:11 |
| Yagisan | dredg: it truly does. after 6, the only place to get food is the vending machine at the train station | 07:11 |
| tritium | darnit, now I'm getting hungry | 07:12 |
| === tritium dreads going to work every day... | ||
| dredg | tritium: why's that? | 07:13 |
| tritium | Oh, it just sucks. Long story. | 07:13 |
| === dredg ponders an #ubuntu-offtopic channel | ||
| dredg | how useful would one of those be? | 07:14 |
| tritium | there is one ;) | 07:14 |
| dredg | is there? | 07:14 |
| ajmitch | yes | 07:14 |
| ajmitch | it's called #ubuntu-mono | 07:14 |
| ajmitch | we're rarely on-topic here | 07:14 |
| Nafallo | there is two :-) (counting this one) | 07:14 |
| tritium | yeah, but I don't enjoy it at all | 07:14 |
| Yagisan | can I pass makeflags to .debs ? it seems that distcc IS working, but 1 job at a time to local host. | 07:14 |
| Nafallo | then three :-) | 07:14 |
| LaserJock | I thought that this channel was for off-topic ;-) | 07:15 |
| Yagisan | I think a blanket -j4 would get a nice test going | 07:15 |
| dredg | tritium: (http://www.google.com/jobs/index.html) | 07:16 |
| === dredg stops whoring ;) | ||
| tritium | yeah, no kidding | 07:16 |
| tritium | Part of the long story is that I owe 3 years of my life to my current employer | 07:17 |
| === ajmitch would rather work for canonical :) | ||
| dredg | :) | 07:17 |
| === Yagisan is happy being the boss | ||
| dredg | fwiw, i can shove a cv or resume over the queuing process straight to a recruiter. but really, </whoring> | 07:18 |
| Yagisan | dredg: In my experience, recruiters aren't there to get you a job, they are there to keep they vacancy open as long as they can | 07:19 |
| tritium | dredg: :) | 07:19 |
| Yagisan | so they can charge more money for "filling" it | 07:19 |
| tritium | dredg: you work at google? | 07:19 |
| dredg | Yagisan: right. in this case the recruiter works for google and their job is to hire more staff | 07:19 |
| dredg | tritium: yes | 07:20 |
| === tritium has a cousin that works at google | ||
| tritium | dredg: I'm not a computer type, anyway | 07:21 |
| Yagisan | is MAKEOPTS a gentoo only flag ? | 07:22 |
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| dredg | tritium: no way. know what dept? | 07:23 |
| tritium | dredg: all I know is that he worked on the google toolbar for mozilla | 07:24 |
| dredg | ah, software eng. most likely i've never come in contact with him | 07:24 |
| tritium | What do you do? | 07:25 |
| dredg | sysop | 07:25 |
| tritium | cool | 07:25 |
| dredg | it's ok. i'm over here on training and my internal clock has had a meltdown | 07:26 |
| === Yagisan sighs | ||
| === Nafallo yawns | ||
| Nafallo | hmm | 07:31 |
| Nafallo | changes-auto stopped at libx? | 07:32 |
| ajmitch | looks like it | 07:32 |
| ajmitch | last one I have is libxml-xerces-perl | 07:32 |
| Nafallo | that means everything after libx is ubuntuX? ;-) | 07:32 |
| ajmitch | hah | 07:32 |
| ajmitch | no, it means that the syncs are done in batches | 07:33 |
| Nafallo | baah | 07:34 |
| Nafallo | I almost had a laugh :-P | 07:34 |
| bddebian | Gnight gang | 07:35 |
| ajmitch | night bddebian | 07:35 |
| Nafallo | hehe 7:35 :-P | 07:35 |
| tritium | good night, bddebian | 07:35 |
| tritium | I should get some sleep too | 07:36 |
| tritium | good night, gang | 07:37 |
| dredg | night | 07:37 |
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| ivoks | hello | 07:41 |
| ivoks | crimsun: ping | 07:41 |
| ivoks | ajmitch: ping :) | 07:41 |
| ajmitch | ivoks: pong | 07:42 |
| ivoks | ajmitch: could we push libcvs to breezy-updates? | 07:42 |
| ivoks | it can't be installed in breezy | 07:42 |
| ivoks | and needs only rebuild | 07:42 |
| ajmitch | you have to ask mdz | 07:43 |
| ajmitch | he needs to manually approve each -updates debdiff | 07:43 |
| ivoks | ok | 07:43 |
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| dredg | damn brain thinks it's 7am tomorrow morning | 07:52 |
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| pef | hello | 08:30 |
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| frans-th | hi all | 09:10 |
| frans-th | i want to participate with ubuntu branding derivative project for drake | 09:10 |
| frans-th | can help | 09:11 |
| frans-th | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BrandingForDerivatives | 09:11 |
| ajmitch | best to ask in #ubuntu-devel then | 09:13 |
| ajmitch | we just handle universe | 09:14 |
| === ajmitch is not really sure what you're asking, either | ||
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| zakame | wb dholbach | 09:29 |
| dholbach | morning | 09:29 |
| dholbach | hey zakame :) | 09:29 |
| hub | night all | 09:30 |
| ajmitch | hi dholbach | 09:30 |
| dholbach | sleep tight, hub | 09:30 |
| hub | dholbach: when do you arrive in Montreal? | 09:30 |
| zakame | afternoon here :) | 09:30 |
| dholbach | hub: ermmmmm, 29. 12:00 am or something | 09:30 |
| hub | dholbach: ah ok. so ne pre-conf :-) | 09:30 |
| hub | s/ne/no/ | 09:31 |
| hub | c-ya later all | 09:31 |
| dholbach | byebye hub :) | 09:31 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: ah, I'll be there at about 7am that morning :) | 09:31 |
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| \sh | ok..something changed in upload handling? | 10:12 |
| sivang | morning all | 10:13 |
| ajmitch | \sh: no? | 10:14 |
| ajmitch | \sh: we're still on boring old katie | 10:14 |
| crimsun | slomo: ping. Are we still moving forward with the ffmpeg migration to marillat's, or shall we ask for xvidcore (source) and libpostproc-dev (binary from ffmpeg) to be promoted to universe? | 10:18 |
| Lathiat | hrm weird ive got this usb card reader but when i wrote stuff to it, its there unthen disappears | 10:21 |
| Lathiat | weird | 10:21 |
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| syouth | hi | 10:49 |
| syouth | are motu's like package maintainers and if i want to contribute some package to ubuntu main tree, i must be one? | 10:51 |
| dholbach | syouth: MOTUs take care of Universe | 10:51 |
| dholbach | "masters of the universe" | 10:51 |
| syouth | ok | 10:51 |
| dholbach | but they are the entry point for ubuntu development | 10:51 |
| syouth | I describe what I would like to do. I had some cool fortune-mods under Gentoo, that were installed with portage. I would like to contribute those missing fortunes to Ubuntu too. What are my choices here? | 10:53 |
| dholbach | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseNewPackagesPolicy are interesting reads for that | 10:53 |
| _Tonio_ | hi everyone | 10:55 |
| syouth | Ok, thanks. That's what I needed. | 10:55 |
| siretart | hi folks | 10:56 |
| _Tonio_ | does anyone has a good knowledge of scons ? | 10:57 |
| dholbach | hi _Tonio_, siretart | 10:57 |
| siretart | huhu dholbach! | 10:57 |
| _Tonio_ | I'm trying to package codeine, but when the log file seems nice, the deb is empty of any lib or binary... | 10:57 |
| _Tonio_ | hi dholbach | 10:57 |
| syouth | dholbach: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseNewPackagesPolicy does not exist. | 10:58 |
| dholbach | erm | 10:58 |
| dholbach | MOTUNewPackagesPolicy maybe | 10:58 |
| syouth | yeah | 10:59 |
| siretart | crimsun: that is a very good question. I think slomo has done some research/overview about ffmpeg and xvidcore | 11:00 |
| _Tonio_ | hi siretart | 11:00 |
| siretart | crimsun: I'd really like to hear his opinion on this | 11:00 |
| siretart | hi _Tonio_! | 11:00 |
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| siretart | hi SloMoSnail! | 11:01 |
| _Tonio_ | hi SloMoSnail | 11:01 |
| SloMoSnail | hi siretart and _Tonio_ and the rest ;) | 11:01 |
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| crimsun | janimo: I uploaded a newer exo snapshot from Benny's repo yesterday that works with Thunar. Shall we have Thunar in Dapper? | 12:24 |
| ajmitch | might as well upload it | 12:24 |
| ajmitch | give people a choice :) | 12:24 |
| === zyga is back from work :-) | ||
| janimo | crimsun, I think so | 12:25 |
| === ajmitch watches zyga announce his return in every channel :P | ||
| janimo | probably 4.4 will be ready by dapper | 12:25 |
| janimo | oh so dapper is opened already? | 12:25 |
| ajmitch | janimo: by UVF? | 12:25 |
| ajmitch | yes | 12:25 |
| === zyga needs to cut the number of channels a bit :/ | ||
| ajmitch | we've got about 1500 packages uploaded already | 12:25 |
| janimo | ajmitch, hopefully xfce stuff will get same treatement as kde and gnome | 12:25 |
| ajmitch | about 1200 of that is autosyncs | 12:25 |
| janimo | so beyond UVF | 12:25 |
| ajmitch | janimo: good luck getting an exception | 12:25 |
| janimo | ajmitch :) | 12:26 |
| janimo | well we synced xfce stuff after UVF in breezy too since it is universe | 12:26 |
| ajmitch | yes | 12:26 |
| janimo | so I think it will be ok\ | 12:26 |
| ajmitch | you got exceptions for all that, right? | 12:26 |
| ajmitch | because for universe we had a UVF policy | 12:27 |
| ajmitch | and we'll be stricter on it for dapper | 12:27 |
| janimo | it was universe stuff so were not quite exceptions | 12:27 |
| janimo | asked elmo and he synced | 12:27 |
| ajmitch | we still had the policy | 12:27 |
| janimo | I know dapper will be stricter | 12:27 |
| ajmitch | seems that most of the MOTUs chose to ignore it though | 12:27 |
| janimo | We'll see what we can do | 12:27 |
| ajmitch | probably with good reason | 12:27 |
| janimo | have a nice day all, I gotta go now | 12:29 |
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| pef | what sould I provide when syncing a package from debian ? using REVU as for new packages ? | 12:43 |
| crimsun | autosync has been running for some time, pef | 12:43 |
| dholbach | a sync? or a merge? | 12:43 |
| \sh | siretart: can we use trac for tracking syncs for the moment? | 12:43 |
| \sh | siretart: or merges? | 12:44 |
| dholbach | don't we have bugzilla for merges? | 12:44 |
| dholbach | once mom is active? | 12:44 |
| ajmitch | we hope so | 12:44 |
| pef | dholbach: sync I think, Debian 's version of kcheckgmail is newer than dapper's version | 12:44 |
| dholbach | then we don't need to track merges at two places | 12:44 |
| \sh | dholbach: well...if you see that a merge is not necessary, and you can elmo sync a debian package... | 12:44 |
| dholbach | then you can state that in the bug report :) | 12:45 |
| \sh | pef: kcheckgmail is an ubuntu package? | 12:45 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: having 2+ places to track merges is less than efficient :) | 12:45 |
| dholbach | and mark it pendingupload or something | 12:45 |
| pef | \sh: yes | 12:45 |
| dholbach | pef: it's a version, we changed? then we need to merge the changes to it | 12:45 |
| \sh | pef: and the ubuntu changes are not vital for kcheckgmail? | 12:45 |
| dholbach | pef: or at least check, if we can just get debian's package, which would be cool | 12:45 |
| pef | dholbach: latest debian's package include last upstream version and is functionnal | 12:46 |
| dholbach | does it have all our "impreovements"? :) | 12:47 |
| pef | dholbach: like updated desktop file and things like this ? | 12:47 |
| dholbach | yeah, everything | 12:48 |
| pef | dholbach: I done this for breezy, but since breezy is closed everything not critical isn't accepted in to breezy-updates. I can do all modifications to debian's version | 12:48 |
| dholbach | yeah, then we get it in for dapper | 12:49 |
| dholbach | dapper is open | 12:49 |
| pef | dholbach: so I should provide a debdiff against latest debian's version ? | 12:50 |
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| dholbach | or upload your version to revu, yes | 12:50 |
| pef | dholbach: someone here told me to get as close as possible to debian's version, so a debdif is better than a new upload | 12:51 |
| dholbach | erm | 12:51 |
| dholbach | if we want to upload something to the archive, we can't upload a debdiff, that's why i said it :) | 12:52 |
| _Tonio_ | dholbach: can we still upload to revu ? | 12:52 |
| === crimsun dances. Fixed vlc. | ||
| dholbach | of course | 12:52 |
| dholbach | crimsun: YAY | 12:52 |
| dholbach | :) | 12:52 |
| Kyral | crimsun you rock | 12:52 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: good work | 12:53 |
| pef | dholbach: and who can I contact to get a fixed version uploaded into breezy-updates ? without the fix the programm is unusable | 12:53 |
| crimsun | sigh, now to wait til everything's available in Dapper :-) | 12:53 |
| === ajmitch wouldn't mind a *working* dapper pbuilder | ||
| ajmitch | instead of 404 errors all over | 12:54 |
| Kyral | except VLC is still busted here | 12:55 |
| ajmitch | Kyral: be patient! | 12:55 |
| tseng | yes | 12:55 |
| tseng | he beamed the fix directly to your pc | 12:55 |
| Kyral | oh didn't get uploaded | 12:55 |
| tseng | over the mind-web | 12:55 |
| crimsun | I can't upload vlc till all all the b-ds are available | 12:55 |
| Kyral | Dude I just woke up gimme some slack ;P | 12:55 |
| ajmitch | the buildd has > 2000 packages to build :P | 12:55 |
| crimsun | exactly | 12:56 |
| Kyral | No caffine in the system yet ;P | 12:56 |
| tseng | < 7am, caffeine, 0 | 12:56 |
| tseng | yes. | 12:56 |
| \sh | Betreff: sip4-qt3_4.3-1ubuntu1_source.changes ACCEPTED | 12:56 |
| \sh | Datum: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:55:05 +0100 (BST) (12:55 CEST) | 12:56 |
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| \sh | my first MAIN upload for dapper *yay* | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | \sh: yay breakage | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | \sh: yay breakage | 12:57 |
| tseng | btw i dont see any autosync action | 12:57 |
| syouth | Is this HOW-TO correct if I replace hoary with breezy ? | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | lucky you | 12:57 |
| syouth | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | tseng: ubuntu-changes-auto | 12:57 |
| tseng | that people keep talking about | 12:57 |
| tseng | ajmitch: sigh.. | 12:57 |
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| Kyral | 8 AM Class, means I need to get up at 6:45 to get breakfast | 12:57 |
| === ajmitch would like to do main uploads too | ||
| dholbach | pef: get the version up on REVU (the complete one) and nag people to upload it | 12:58 |
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| pef | dholbach: already wrote a debdiff https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/kcheckgmail/+bug/2018 | 01:01 |
| dholbach | pef: super | 01:01 |
| pef | dholbach: but I think motu are very busy with dapper :] | 01:02 |
| dholbach | pef: we'll manage | 01:02 |
| dholbach | :) | 01:02 |
| pef | erf :) | 01:02 |
| pef | dholbach: for next TB meeting, to apply as a MOTU, I just have to add myself here https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-dev/+members ? | 01:03 |
| Lathiat | i think for 'motu' too | 01:05 |
| Lathiat | pef: you also need to turn up | 01:05 |
| pef | Lathiat: sorry ? | 01:06 |
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| crimsun | (show up at the TB meeting) | 01:06 |
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| StrikeForce | Is the universe candidates uptodate | 01:07 |
| StrikeForce | or have people already done the packages and haven't updated the wiki page? | 01:07 |
| dholbach | StrikeForce: people should have updated it | 01:07 |
| StrikeForce | yup | 01:08 |
| dholbach | (sometimes they might not have been aware of it) | 01:08 |
| StrikeForce | kk | 01:08 |
| syouth | I need to get my key signed if I want to register as an uploader ( according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU ). Who must sign my key? Someone inside Ubuntu team? | 01:08 |
| StrikeForce | I'm still waiting for someone to REVU rufus :( | 01:08 |
| dholbach | syouth: somebody in the closely connected set | 01:08 |
| syouth | Get Your Key Signed: Locate someone that lives near you and can meet with you to verify your id. I've used [WWW] http://www.biglumber.com/ | 01:08 |
| siretart | syouth: we don't require signed keys for revu | 01:08 |
| syouth | siretart: Oh. Ok then. | 01:08 |
| pef | crimsun: oh, of course :) | 01:08 |
| siretart | syouth: but you should try to get your key signed anyway. You'll need that for membership anyway | 01:09 |
| syouth | Ok. | 01:09 |
| syouth | Does someone inside Debian team with signed GPG key counts? | 01:09 |
| dholbach | sure | 01:09 |
| siretart | of course! | 01:09 |
| syouth | I think he's not developer or something, but a long time user and such | 01:09 |
| syouth | As I understand I need someone with signed key to sign me to get accepted to the web of signed keys. Is it something like that? | 01:10 |
| dholbach | yes | 01:11 |
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| pef | Lathiat: cannot apply to MOTU team: MOTU is a restricted team. Only a team administrator can add new members. but I can apply to ubuntu-dev membership | 01:13 |
| Lathiat | yeh someone will add you to motu i think | 01:13 |
| syouth | So I have to find someone in my local area, who has that signed key. | 01:13 |
| syouth | It's a bit confusing | 01:14 |
| syouth | :) | 01:14 |
| ajmitch | pef: motu team is just for bug assignment, really | 01:16 |
| pef | ohh ok | 01:17 |
| ajmitch | ubuntu-dev will be for uploading | 01:18 |
| pef | ajmitch: to be a motu you must be a ubuntu-dev member, right ? | 01:19 |
| ajmitch | yes | 01:19 |
| ogra | ajmitch, not only for bug assigning ... also for feeling like a part of it :p | 01:19 |
| ajmitch | that's what will control uploading | 01:19 |
| ajmitch | ogra: oh sure :P | 01:19 |
| ogra | *g* | 01:20 |
| ajmitch | ogra: isn't the fame & the glory enough? | 01:20 |
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| ogra | sure... but thats like your "MOTU passport" :) | 01:20 |
| syouth | siretart: But when I want to get membership, I need someone inside Ubuntu to sign my key? | 01:20 |
| ajmitch | syouth: someone in the strong set, not necessarily in ubuntu | 01:21 |
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| ogra | syouth, get his/her key id and check if there is *any* connection via the trustpath to someone in the strong set: http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?STAT=A2D06936&STATS=statistics | 01:22 |
| ogra | that will suffice | 01:22 |
| crimsun | back this afternoon (8h), cya folks. | 01:23 |
| syouth | ogra: big thanks, I will investigate :) | 01:24 |
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| syouth | If i want to know my own fingerprint, then: gpg --fingerprint shows that? | 01:32 |
| ogra | yup | 01:33 |
| Treenaks | syouth: gpg --fingerprint your_keyid | 01:33 |
| syouth | Which is my key_id? | 01:34 |
| Treenaks | syouth: you know your key id right? | 01:34 |
| dholbach | just gpg --fingerprint <your mail adress> | 01:35 |
| syouth | Sorry for n00b questions... | 01:35 |
| Treenaks | syouth: otherwise, try your email address | 01:35 |
| syouth | I have key, yes. | 01:35 |
| dholbach | the thing after 1024D will be your keyaddress | 01:35 |
| Treenaks | or 2048D or whatever | 01:35 |
| syouth | ok | 01:35 |
| Treenaks | 1024D/[8 numbers/letters] | 01:35 |
| ogra | the thing after "pub" :) | 01:35 |
| Treenaks | those 8 numbers/letters = your key ID | 01:35 |
| syouth | Thanks:) | 01:35 |
| syouth | Oh. Seems like I have old pgp keys in pgp.mit.edu .. Can I erase them, because I don't use them. I created them in some practial exercises at school. | 01:37 |
| Treenaks | no | 01:37 |
| Treenaks | or at least, not afaik | 01:37 |
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| JanC | if you still have those keys you can invalidate them | 01:47 |
| JanC | ('revoke' them) | 01:49 |
| Nafallo | always make revocation certificats to store in safe places... | 01:49 |
| Nafallo | I've learnt that now ;-) | 01:50 |
| syouth | I think we don't have anyone in Estonia in strong set:P | 01:50 |
| syouth | It was local gurus thought. | 01:51 |
| syouth | Or can you recall any developer from Estonia for example? | 01:51 |
| JanC | estonia = .ee, right? | 01:54 |
| syouth | Yeah. | 01:54 |
| ajmitch | great, we have a pqm deb now to control write access by email to baz & bzr branches :) | 01:55 |
| ajmitch | yay, pqm broken due to dodgy make dist in upstream ;) | 01:57 |
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| syouth | So much for membership, but random movie suggestion for those who like scizofrenic and underground stuff from Japan - "Tetsuo" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096251/ :) | 02:03 |
| ajmitch | yay for autotools braindamage | 02:05 |
| JanC | syouth: I found a debian developer in latvia, I don't know if that's a possibility? | 02:11 |
| syouth | This is a slim possibility, but I consider that. You may give his/her name? | 02:12 |
| JanC | Aigars Mahinovs (aigarius) | 02:13 |
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| dholbach | JanC: it is, just mail him/her :) | 02:13 |
| JanC | they have to meet in person... | 02:14 |
| === ajmitch is lucky to be around a number of DDs in dunedin | ||
| ajmitch | I'm not sure if I'm the 4th or 5th DD here | 02:15 |
| syouth | Yes, I know about meeting in person. That makes the thing so hard, if you don't have any trusted members in your home country ;) | 02:15 |
| JanC | syouth: I'm pretty sure there must be some | 02:15 |
| JanC | the problem is to find them ;) | 02:16 |
| syouth | Ok. I will go try to ask at another #linux.ee | 02:16 |
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| JanC | nobody went to the debian conference in finland? | 02:19 |
| syouth | I don't know. When was it? | 02:20 |
| Treenaks | JanC: no, it was empty there ;) | 02:20 |
| JanC | Treenaks: I mean from .ee :) | 02:20 |
| Treenaks | JanC: oh | 02:20 |
| Treenaks | where is .ee? | 02:20 |
| JanC | a small swim from .fi ;) | 02:21 |
| syouth | South from .fi and north to .lt | 02:21 |
| syouth | *north from | 02:21 |
| JanC | most north of the 3 baltic states | 02:21 |
| syouth | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=estonia&spn=16.254873,52.769531&hl=en | 02:22 |
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| siretart | slomo_: I mailed you an email regarding plf, could you please proof read it? | 02:28 |
| ajmitch | hm, this is an ugly package I made :) | 02:29 |
| siretart | I guess our autobuilders are quite busy atm, are they? ;) | 02:30 |
| ajmitch | a little | 02:31 |
| siretart | hehe | 02:31 |
| ajmitch | there's a queue of ~1300 at last report | 02:31 |
| ajmitch | hm | 02:31 |
| === ajmitch moves config-manager from recommends to depends | ||
| siretart | hm. vorlon filed an RC bugreport against a package of me.. | 02:32 |
| ajmitch | siretart: oh? | 02:32 |
| ajmitch | what did you break? | 02:32 |
| siretart | ajmitch: I didn't break anything, python and wxwidgets packages was renamed | 02:32 |
| ajmitch | right | 02:32 |
| siretart | ajmitch: so londonlaw is uninstallble in debian for now. I already prepared a fixed package, but I cannot test it yet | 02:32 |
| ajmitch | so you didn't upgrade in time :) | 02:33 |
| siretart | yet in 'right now' | 02:33 |
| siretart | yeah, was busy with university and breezy ;) | 02:33 |
| ajmitch | no excuse :P | 02:33 |
| JanC | syouth: debconf 5 was in july this year & several people went to estonia for one day, that would have been *the* oportunity to get your key signed... | 02:33 |
| syouth | So if 1 person in Estonia gets into this trusted cirle and that 1 person signes other persons here in Estonia, they are all in the trusted circle | 02:38 |
| thesaltydog | syouth, yes | 02:38 |
| syouth | And if this one person somehow loses his/her key or something like that, all the others lose trust too.. | 02:39 |
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| thesaltydog | no. What do you mean by "loses" | 02:39 |
| syouth | He can die, he revokes key ... something like that | 02:40 |
| ajmitch | if there's only 1 person linking the chain.. | 02:40 |
| ajmitch | then yes, the others wouldn't be linked to the strong set | 02:40 |
| ajmitch | which is why it's good to collect signatures | 02:41 |
| thesaltydog | sy if his key is revoked and you are linked only to him, you will break your chain | 02:41 |
| syouth | Sounds logical... | 02:43 |
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| ploum | Hello | 02:53 |
| ploum | anyone can tell me how to download the criawips package to test it ? | 02:53 |
| hub | ploum: on REVU | 02:53 |
| Treenaks | apt-get install criawips ? | 02:53 |
| ploum | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=683 : I don't see any deb | 02:54 |
| ajmitch | source only on revu | 02:54 |
| ajmitch | since it's meant for reviewing packages | 02:55 |
| ploum | ah ! Thanks ajmitch, I understand | 02:55 |
| ajmitch | so grab the orig.tar.gz, the .dsc & the .diff.gz | 02:55 |
| ajmitch | and build | 02:55 |
| ploum | ajmitch, ok | 02:55 |
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| Yagisan | ajmitch: do you have access to a few i386 boxes and want to be a guinea pig ? | 02:57 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: define 'a few' | 02:57 |
| ploum | mm.. shame on me but is there some doc on how to make this ? (I did some deb packages but it was a long time ago) | 02:57 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: at least 2 | 02:57 |
| ajmitch | and what sort of guinea pig work is it? | 02:57 |
| ajmitch | ploum: simple way is to dpkg-source -x package.dsc | 02:57 |
| ajmitch | go into the directory | 02:57 |
| ajmitch | debuild | 02:57 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: I need you to test my pbuilderrc and tell me if distcc fails on you with errors like: | 02:58 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: /usr/bin/gcc /opt/chroots/pbuilder/ccache/i386/log.tmp.doomguy.20566.i on localhost failed | 02:58 |
| === ajmitch doesn't have 2 fast machines | ||
| === Yagisan was using sub 300Mhz boxes | ||
| ploum | thanks ajmitch :-) | 02:58 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: basically, I grabbed random packages out of universe (wesnoth, vegastrike) to test with | 02:59 |
| ajmitch | hah | 02:59 |
| ajmitch | vegastrike is not small | 02:59 |
| === ajmitch compiled that a few times | ||
| Yagisan | ajmitch: and they fail to build with distcc (all boxes a breezy) | 03:00 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: please suggest a tiny package then :) I'm sure distcc will f*ck it up | 03:00 |
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| ajmitch | heh | 03:01 |
| ajmitch | treecc, then :) | 03:01 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: building now - lets see if that works | 03:02 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: It failed | 03:03 |
| ajmitch | fun | 03:03 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: would you (or anyone else) like to check my pbuilderrc and distcc to see if it is pebac or a broken package ? | 03:04 |
| ajmitch | show me the config then | 03:04 |
| === ajmitch detests dcc | ||
| highvoltage | i just installed uw-imapd, and the version number is 2002edebian1-11sarge1, it is the right package, right? i can't recall seeing sarge in any of my ubuntu packages before. | 03:05 |
| ajmitch | highvoltage: that's probably right | 03:06 |
| ajmitch | uw-imapd | 7:2002edebian1-11sarge1 | http://10.18.1.1 breezy/universe Packages | 03:06 |
| highvoltage | ajmitch: ah, ok. thanks | 03:06 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: want the failed build log from treecc too ? | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: sure | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | so configure went fine.. | 03:08 |
| ajmitch | mm, cdbs | 03:08 |
| ajmitch | it got through a few C files before choking & dying | 03:09 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: yep, it happens with anything I build with distcc | 03:10 |
| ajmitch | distcc isn't saying much | 03:10 |
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| Yagisan | ajmitch: be back in a sec | 03:11 |
| === ajmitch confirmed that treecc builds fine as-is in a breezy pbuilder | ||
| ajmitch | I'd be worried if it didn't | 03:12 |
| ajmitch | and would have to lart the debian maintainer | 03:12 |
| \sh | gcc: Depends: cpp (>= 4:4.0.2-1) but 4:4.0.1-3 is to be installed | 03:14 |
| \sh | Depends: gcc-4.0 (>= 4.0.2-2) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed | 03:14 |
| \sh | GRRRR | 03:14 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: all packages build fine without distcc :( | 03:16 |
| ajmitch | you're surprised? | 03:16 |
| === ajmitch hasn't used distcc enough to tell | ||
| Yagisan | ajmitch: I'll try building with only ccache and no distcc | 03:21 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: perfect build | 03:23 |
| ajmitch | k | 03:23 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: when building unless otherwise specified it uses the default gcc which is 4 right ? | 03:24 |
| ajmitch | yes | 03:24 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: ok - then I'm not having gcc mismatched versions | 03:25 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: I'm going to build a pbuilder on the box at 192.168.1.1 to rule out hardware issues | 03:26 |
| \sh | haha...rejected a bug | 03:33 |
| Yagisan | \sh: which one ? | 03:35 |
| \sh | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/3404 | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | oh that one | 03:36 |
| === ajmitch looks at that earlier | ||
| ajmitch | but I didn't have my madwifi card on hand to test :) | 03:37 |
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| \sh | ajmitch: it works, but not with dhcp..because it tries somehow wpa2 first... | 03:40 |
| \sh | ajmitch: but it's more an madwifi problem...it's fixed in the next version of madwifi | 03:41 |
| ajmitch | ok | 03:41 |
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| \sh | hmmm | 03:42 |
| \sh | i made a mistake | 03:42 |
| \sh | I put deb ... dapper in my sources.lsit | 03:42 |
| ajmitch | time for sleep, will be back in ~4 hrs :) | 03:42 |
| \sh | rmpf | 03:42 |
| derek_ | \sh: whats wrong with it | 03:42 |
| Yagisan | night ajmitch | 03:43 |
| \sh | derek_: nothing...but toolchain is broken | 03:43 |
| dereks | ohh | 03:43 |
| pietrus | hello folks | 03:45 |
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| === Yagisan sighs, 6 times now. ajmitch - I'll tell you tomorrow if it is a hardware issue | ||
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| YokoZar | Wine 0.9 Beta just came out about 30 mins ago. I'm going to put together the Ubuntu package. ETA on the package will be 4 hours, since I need to finish D/Ling, compiling, and going to class for the day. | 05:19 |
| YokoZar | After that, perhaps we could discuss Wine 0.9 in Universe | 05:19 |
| dholbach | YokoZar: we heard it in ONE channel | 05:19 |
| dholbach | we now have http://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU for reviewing packages | 05:20 |
| YokoZar | dholbach: forgot about this channel | 05:21 |
| YokoZar | I've been a bit homeless/without computer for a month | 05:21 |
| YokoZar | Just in time to miss Breezy's release, heh. | 05:22 |
| siretart | YokoZar: are you wine upstream? | 05:24 |
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| YokoZar | siretart: yes | 05:30 |
| HWolf | Can I close malone 3073? | 05:30 |
| YokoZar | But I make Ubuntu packages too, siretart | 05:30 |
| HWolf | Lathiat, ? | 05:30 |
| Lathiat | HWolf: ? | 05:30 |
| HWolf | Lathiat, malone 3073 should be closed, right? | 05:30 |
| siretart | YokoZar: aah, so I remember now | 05:31 |
| YokoZar | Ok, I'll be back in 3 hours or so, gotta go to class | 05:31 |
| Lathiat | i guess so | 05:31 |
| siretart | YokoZar: \sh was our wine hero so far | 05:31 |
| Lathiat | i mean what hes saying is valid | 05:31 |
| Lathiat | but | 05:31 |
| siretart | YokoZar: have fun! | 05:31 |
| Lathiat | its not | 05:31 |
| Lathiat | sortof | 05:31 |
| Lathiat | mysql-server wants an MTA | 05:31 |
| ogra | YokoZar, \sh uploaded your packages for the last release :) | 05:31 |
| Lathiat | end of story | 05:31 |
| HWolf | Lathiat, notabug imho | 05:32 |
| Lathiat | its not a hula bug by any stretch of the imagination | 05:32 |
| YokoZar | ogra: Wow, what good news to hear while I was offline! I think he emailed me and I didn't read it yet. | 05:32 |
| Lathiat | ill mark it wontfix ? | 05:32 |
| HWolf | i'll do it. :) | 05:32 |
| Lathiat | bah and i just logged in :) | 05:32 |
| Lathiat | rejected, priority: wontfix | 05:32 |
| HWolf | :) | 05:33 |
| ogra | YokoZar, ys, i pointed him to you... for dapper you two should work together ... or even better you should finally become MOTU and get them in yourself ;) | 05:34 |
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| siretart | YokoZar: if you have some packages which need to be reviewed/uploaded to ubuntu, just tell me or \sh. Or even better: upload them to revu ;) | 05:37 |
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| pef | can someone review this ? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=819 thanks ! | 06:33 |
| siretart | pef: I'm revu-building this for you | 06:35 |
| hub | pef: version -1ubuntu1 without a -1? | 06:35 |
| hub | it dapper open? | 06:39 |
| pef | hub: yes | 06:39 |
| hub | so they did resync from Debian? | 06:39 |
| pef | hub: about 2000 packages | 06:39 |
| siretart | hub: it's not 'they', it's 'we' :) | 06:40 |
| hub | siretart: sorry. | 06:40 |
| hub | ok | 06:40 |
| pef | siretart: wrong version, I'm reuploading a new | 06:40 |
| siretart | ;) | 06:40 |
| hub | so one of my package on REVU may be there too as it has been upload to debian | 06:41 |
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| pef | hub: you should check this http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-changes-auto | 06:45 |
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| pef | siretart: corrected http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=820 | 06:47 |
| pef | bbl | 06:47 |
| hub | I'll get my key signed soon anyway | 06:55 |
| hub | at UBZ | 06:55 |
| dholbach | yay! :) | 06:56 |
| hub | dholbach: given that I'm local, how else could I do that :-)\ | 06:57 |
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| thesaltydog | how can I get rid of a lot of these messages: debian: warning: no utmp entry available and LOGNAME not defined; using uid of process (0) during pbuilder process? | 07:58 |
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| \sh | hmmm | 08:10 |
| \sh | anyone has successfully build stuff in the last lets say 4 hours? | 08:11 |
| \sh | since gcc-defaults synced? | 08:11 |
| hub | crap | 08:11 |
| ajmitch | morning all | 08:11 |
| hub | the broken keycode in breezy PowerPC did bite me | 08:11 |
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| YokoZar | Ok, what's the quickest way to go from a source package to the ready-to-compile/update state? | 08:30 |
| YokoZar | There's apt-get source (package) and then tar -xzf package.orig.tar.gz | 08:31 |
| ajmitch | apt-get source will unpack it for you | 08:31 |
| YokoZar | oh? | 08:31 |
| ajmitch | that's what it's intended for | 08:32 |
| YokoZar | Somehow I ended up with a .dsc and two tar.gz's | 08:32 |
| ajmitch | because it runs dpkg-source | 08:32 |
| ajmitch | eg.. | 08:32 |
| ajmitch | Fetched 966kB in 9s (98.4kB/s) | 08:32 |
| ajmitch | dpkg-source: extracting config-manager in config-manager-0.1p123 | 08:32 |
| ajmitch | dpkg-source: unpacking config-manager_0.1p123.orig.tar.gz | 08:32 |
| ajmitch | dpkg-source: applying ./config-manager_0.1p123-1.diff.gz | 08:32 |
| ajmitch | so you get a directory config-manager-0.1p123 | 08:32 |
| YokoZar | ok, here's what happened: didn't yet have build-essentials, so apt-get source bugged out | 08:33 |
| YokoZar | It should test for that | 08:33 |
| ajmitch | no, it's expected that you have build-essential | 08:33 |
| ajmitch | since it's essential.. | 08:33 |
| YokoZar | Well, yeah, it is | 08:34 |
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| YokoZar | But, if it's essential, then why don't I have it, until I remember to install it after apt bugs out, eh? | 08:34 |
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| YokoZar | Meh, not that important ;) | 08:35 |
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| \sh | hehe..new pictures from ISH NOC ,-) | 08:42 |
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| sivang | \sh: if I have a couple of rpms, and I want to create a debian package that use them together with alien, and do a couple of postint stuff based on users' answers, how should I go about that? | 08:48 |
| \sh | sivang: don't use rpm and repackage the stuff to a real package..and use debconf | 08:49 |
| sivang | \sh: I want to do this for the meanwhile, in the future that will be possible | 08:50 |
| sivang | \sh: currently I need to follow that path | 08:50 |
| sivang | \sh: it's possible, right? | 08:51 |
| \sh | sivang: yes...but you need for user interaction debconf anyways | 08:51 |
| sivang | \sh: but currently I can't get the source rpms :) | 08:52 |
| \sh | sivang: why not? | 08:52 |
| YokoZar | what package is uupdate in? | 08:53 |
| \sh | sivang: but alien more for rpm deb conversion of the binary packages... | 08:53 |
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| YokoZar | This is weird...why don't I have uupdate... | 08:56 |
| jamessan|work | YokoZar: devscripts, I think | 08:56 |
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| YokoZar | ahh, thanks | 08:57 |
| \sh | YokoZar: you can forget about uupdate and the orig. wine tar.gzs :( the version is not matching our version scheme | 08:57 |
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| YokoZar | That's why you specify -v to uupdate :) | 08:59 |
| \sh | YokoZar: better to put the orig wine tar.gz into another wine_<ubuntu version>.orig.tar.gz and unpack it in debian/rules...how did I do it hmmm | 08:59 |
| \sh | YokoZar: yeah...but I don't like it ;) | 08:59 |
| YokoZar | uupdate -v 0.9.0-winehq for the Wine Apt repository, where I'll put this thing first | 08:59 |
| \sh | btw.... | 09:00 |
| YokoZar | Yeah? | 09:01 |
| \sh | everybody knows who YokoZar is? Scott Ritchie, master of the wine hq deb packages...please welcome him warmly...he will become our new wine motu :) | 09:01 |
| Nafallo | amd64-wine? :-) | 09:01 |
| Nafallo | YokoZar: welcome! :-) | 09:01 |
| YokoZar | Nafallo: first things first. I'll probably see if I can get a 64 bit package working in the next few days or this weekend | 09:02 |
| YokoZar | It'll be more of an issue once Wine can actually run 64 bit windows apps, heh | 09:02 |
| \sh | ok...I have to go to bed...tomorrow morning at 2UTC is my night over | 09:02 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 09:02 |
| Nafallo | \sh: gnight :-) | 09:02 |
| \sh | YokoZar: good to have you on board :) and welcome to MOTU world :) | 09:02 |
| YokoZar | Nice to be here :) | 09:04 |
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| \sh | g'night guys...and good morning ajmitch I think ;) | 09:06 |
| sivang | \sh: why so early? | 09:06 |
| ajmitch | :) | 09:06 |
| sivang | \sh: good night :) | 09:06 |
| ajmitch | night \sh | 09:06 |
| \sh | sivang: work tomorrow at 2UTC :( right now, the first shift of my colleagues are starting to work for our changes in our tv-cable :) | 09:06 |
| ajmitch | eek | 09:07 |
| ajmitch | 2am shift is evil | 09:07 |
| sivang | \sh: man, have a good night then brother - keep the faith | 09:07 |
| \sh | sivang: yeah...see u all around tomorrow somehow :) | 09:07 |
| tseng | hi | 09:09 |
| ajmitch | hello | 09:10 |
| tseng | how are merge bugs looking? | 09:11 |
| dholbach | are there more than the old ones? | 09:11 |
| tseng | i dont know | 09:11 |
| dholbach | there are 44 | 09:12 |
| dholbach | 12486 is the last | 09:12 |
| tseng | oh | 09:12 |
| Kyral | hmmm | 09:13 |
| Kyral | Time to reboot and see if she holds :D | 09:13 |
| ajmitch | MoM not running yet | 09:14 |
| ajmitch | Kyral: I wouldn't expect it | 09:14 |
| Kyral | Oh? | 09:14 |
| Nafallo | Kyral: tell me how she did later :-) | 09:14 |
| Kyral | 404 Errors, WTF? | 09:14 |
| ajmitch | Kyral: initramfs-tools got clobbered by debian merge, so if you re-ran update-initramfs or similar.. | 09:15 |
| Kyral | I don't need an initrd ;P | 09:15 |
| Kyral | I recompiled my kernel so all the stuff I need is in it | 09:15 |
| tseng | ill upgrade in a week or two maybe | 09:15 |
| ajmitch | good luck then :P | 09:15 |
| Nafallo | I can't even install new initramfs-tools :-) | 09:15 |
| ajmitch | tseng: things won't be much better then due to UBZ | 09:15 |
| Kyral | I switched over to 2.6.13.4 | 09:15 |
| tseng | oh right | 09:15 |
| ajmitch | the buildd backlog will be cleared, but most merge work will still remain | 09:16 |
| ajmitch | so plenty of stuff might not even be installable | 09:16 |
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| ajmitch | yay for random bug assigning | 09:17 |
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| ajmitch | someone assigning a scribus bug to MOTU | 09:18 |
| dholbach | can have been me, somebody complained about a bug assigned to motu | 09:18 |
| ajmitch | when it's actually a launchpad thing | 09:18 |
| dholbach | oh? launchpad? | 09:18 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: Hidde Brugmans ? | 09:18 |
| dholbach | hiddenwolf? | 09:18 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: the scribus bug is complaining about the launchpad description | 09:18 |
| ajmitch | at | 09:18 |
| ajmitch | ah right | 09:18 |
| ajmitch | so that's who it is | 09:19 |
| Kyral | Okay, here goes | 09:19 |
| ajmitch | #1481 btw | 09:20 |
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| Kyral | Aside from my normal reboot hiccups, no problems | 09:25 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 09:25 |
| Nafallo | shouldn't the swap be clean between each hibernation? ;-) | 09:25 |
| Kyral | and GAIM just went | 09:25 |
| Kyral | Did GAIM get updated? | 09:25 |
| Kyral | Though my asshole friends maybe the cause, assholes found an exploit in GAIM that allows crashing | 09:26 |
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| Nafallo | what the heck is up with my apt-proxy? | 09:31 |
| tseng | it is crappy software | 09:31 |
| Nafallo | fails, downloads 2, fails, downloads 2, etc... | 09:31 |
| sivang | lol | 09:31 |
| Kyral | My ping is all over the place, WTF | 09:32 |
| Kyral | Anyway everything is stable ATM | 09:34 |
| Nafallo | I should remake my swap :-P | 09:35 |
| Kyral | ...why? | 09:35 |
| Nafallo | Swap: 956 382 574 | 09:35 |
| Nafallo | that's two hibernations... | 09:35 |
| Kyral | Ah | 09:35 |
| Kyral | I don't hibernate this thing | 09:36 |
| Kyral | and WTF is up with my ping | 09:36 |
| Nafallo | why the hell doesn't it clean up after successfully woke up? | 09:36 |
| Kyral | someone ping me, I can't believe what XChat right now | 09:36 |
| jamessan|work | 4.171 seconds | 09:36 |
| Nafallo | 4.91 here | 09:37 |
| Kyral | this is odd....either my college's internet conn is being flooded... | 09:37 |
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| Nafallo | can anyone reproduce that hibernation problem btw? :-) | 09:39 |
| Kyral | Anyone wanna venture a guess as to why there are two instances of GDM on my process list? | 09:42 |
| Amaranth | Kyral: you ran gdmflexiserver? | 09:43 |
| Amaranth | (hit ctrl-alt-f8) | 09:43 |
| Kyral | There is something there, the error msg from X earlier | 09:44 |
| Kyral | WTF is gdmflexiserver? | 09:44 |
| tseng | can you please take it easy on the WTF factor | 09:45 |
| tseng | esp. when someone is trying to help you | 09:45 |
| Kyral | sorry ;P | 09:46 |
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| Amaranth | Kyral: starts a new X session on another display so a new user can login while the other is still logged in | 09:47 |
| Kyral | Umm, seeing as I'm the only person who uses this computer, can I disable it somehow? | 09:47 |
| Amaranth | *shrug* | 09:48 |
| tseng | i have 2 also | 09:48 |
| Amaranth | that is the extent of my knowledge | 09:48 |
| tseng | probably threads | 09:48 |
| Amaranth | from when i was trying to make a FUSA-like thing | 09:49 |
| ajmitch | dapper has been open for ages & I still haven't done an upload | 09:50 |
| dholbach | "ages" :) | 09:51 |
| ajmitch | in the world of MOTU it is :) | 09:51 |
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| Nafallo | hehe | 09:52 |
| === Amaranth will be getting his first package into dapper on thursday | ||
| === ajmitch should upload his queued debian packages | ||
| Amaranth | although my package is heading for main so it's a little different | 09:54 |
| === ajmitch doesn't plan any main uploads until UBZ | ||
| Amaranth | btw, since when did Packages.gz get updated before the files were acually in the archive? | 09:54 |
| ajmitch | since I've only got ~2 days :) | 09:54 |
| Kyral | Okaay | 09:54 |
| Kyral | Alsa went down | 09:55 |
| ajmitch | gah | 09:55 |
| ajmitch | dpkg-source: building gnue-common in gnue-common_0.6.1-1.diff.gz | 09:55 |
| Kyral | Note to self, get a mixer ;P | 09:55 |
| ajmitch | dpkg-source: cannot represent change to .bzr/weaves/c7/lt.gmo-20051022093541-76dd51f19aa9010b.weave: binary file contents changed | 09:55 |
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| siretart | slomo: I bounced the email to slomo@ubuntu.com | 10:32 |
| slomo | siretart: weird... what was the subject? maybe spamassassin didn't like it | 10:33 |
| siretart | slomo: is mail@slomosnail.de obsoleted? | 10:33 |
| siretart | Subject: Collaboration with ubuntu | 10:33 |
| slomo | no... slomo@u.c is a forward to mail@slomosnail.de | 10:33 |
| siretart | strange | 10:34 |
| slomo | no... i didn't get the mail :( | 10:34 |
| slomo | please send it again | 10:34 |
| slomo | hm | 10:34 |
| siretart | I already bounced it to slomo@ubuntu.com | 10:34 |
| slomo | ah there it is | 10:35 |
| siretart | great. | 10:35 |
| slomo | hehe | 10:35 |
| siretart | consider it draft state | 10:35 |
| slomo | the mail is "From:" | 10:36 |
| slomo | ;) | 10:36 |
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| siretart | "From:"? | 10:36 |
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| siretart | a, from nobody, that is because of strange bouncing ;) | 10:36 |
| slomo | yes... nothing ;) | 10:37 |
| ivoks | hi | 10:37 |
| slomo | hi ivoks :) | 10:37 |
| siretart | hi ivoks | 10:38 |
| slomo | siretart: your mail to keyring@tiber was from nobody too | 10:38 |
| ivoks | time for croatian loco :) | 10:38 |
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| ajmitch | hi | 10:38 |
| slomo | hi ajmitch | 10:39 |
| ivoks | hi ajmitch | 10:39 |
| siretart | gn8 folks! | 10:42 |
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| slomo | gn8 siretart | 10:43 |
| crimsun | slomo: hi. What are the plans for ffmpeg in Dapper? Are we migrating to Christian Marillat's packages, or are we going to ask for xvidcore (source) and libpostproc-dev (binary) to be promoted to universe? | 10:45 |
| slomo | crimsun: i plan to get marillat's ffmpeg into dapper... but this must be in multiverse. but we can promote libpostproc/libpostproc-dev to universe if needed | 10:46 |
| slomo | and isn't xvid already in universe? | 10:46 |
| slomo | oh, no | 10:47 |
| slomo | multiverse | 10:47 |
| crimsun | well, if we migrate to Christian's ffmpeg, then we'll have to demote virtually everything that depends on its -dev binaries, too | 10:47 |
| crimsun | just going off recent work, vlc would be neutered unless it, too, were demoted | 10:48 |
| slomo | yes but vlc must be in multiverse anyway... imho... | 10:49 |
| slomo | or faad2 can be promoted to universe ;) | 10:49 |
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| crimsun | Kyral: vlc | 0.8.4-svn20051025-0ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages | 10:50 |
| Kyral | uhh | 10:50 |
| Kyral | vlc | 10:50 |
| Kyral | VLC media player 0.8.4-test1 Janus | 10:50 |
| Kyral | Segmentation fault | 10:50 |
| crimsun | it hasn't built yet on ppc, amd64, or ia64 due to libmodplugc2 not being available | 10:50 |
| Kyral | Just installed it outta Dapper | 10:50 |
| slomo | crimsun: vlc contains the complete faad2 sources iirc... so it should be in multiverse. i don't know what else is in the sources... | 10:51 |
| slomo | but what other objections would you have against choosing marillat's ffmpeg and the multiverse demotion? | 10:51 |
| slomo | all other packages that are using ffmpeg now are nothing that important... only vlc is | 10:51 |
| crimsun | slomo: I have no other objections if we're going to demote everything to multiverse | 10:52 |
| crimsun | s/other//g | 10:52 |
| slomo | oh, vlc contains it's own ffmpeg copy? | 10:52 |
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| crimsun | slomo: currently yes | 10:52 |
| crimsun | slomo: due to the libpostproc-dev mess | 10:52 |
| slomo | hm, is it allowed to promote binaries from multiverse to universe? | 10:53 |
| Kyral | hmm | 10:53 |
| Kyral | why is it segfaulting on me.... | 10:53 |
| Kyral | It has to be something in my system, but what.... | 10:54 |
| crimsun | rm -rf ~/.vlc | 10:54 |
| Kyral | Wouldn't an aptitude purge do that? | 10:55 |
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| crimsun | then paste me (paste.ubuntulinux.nl) the output from vlc -vv | 10:55 |
| crimsun | no | 10:55 |
| crimsun | nothing in ~/. is ever touched | 10:55 |
| slomo | crimsun: i planned to send a mail about ffmpeg and moving everything depending on it to multiverse to ubuntu-devel next week... maybe we can prepare this mail together so we don't miss a package ;) | 10:56 |
| crimsun | slomo: sounds fine to me | 10:56 |
| slomo | and do you know other ffmpeg users that are not in multiverse? (except gst-ffmpeg) | 10:57 |
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| crimsun | kino and motion | 10:58 |
| crimsun | (main and universe, respectively) | 10:58 |
| HWolf | Lathiat, ping | 10:59 |
| slomo | hm... should these 2 be moved too? | 10:59 |
| slomo | or do they contain a legally clean ffmpeg? | 10:59 |
| crimsun | err, n/m | 11:00 |
| crimsun | they both have ffmpeg as a Recommends | 11:00 |
| crimsun | (Suggests for kino) | 11:01 |
| crimsun | so afaics, we're fine | 11:01 |
| slomo | yes | 11:01 |
| slomo | but i wonder how many packages like vlc are out there... which ship their own ffmpeg ;) | 11:01 |
| crimsun | Kyral: uname -m | 11:01 |
| crimsun | slomo: vlc is special-cased afaict | 11:02 |
| Kyral | i686 | 11:02 |
| crimsun | slomo: and that special case will go away once it's demoted | 11:02 |
| Kyral | wait...why does it say that I'm on an Athlon K7.... | 11:02 |
| slomo | crimsun: other to-be-moved packages are gem, gnusound, lynkeos.app, motion, opencv, smilutils | 11:02 |
| slomo | crimsun: ok, so what about gst-ffmpeg? | 11:02 |
| slomo | crimsun: this one ships it's own ffmpeg version | 11:03 |
| HWolf | anyone here able/willing to reply to a raging user? | 11:03 |
| crimsun | slomo: but is that internal version specific to it? | 11:03 |
| slomo | crimsun: that's the question... hm, i'll take a look at it | 11:04 |
| crimsun | Kyral: is this after you've cleaned ~/.vlc ? | 11:04 |
| slomo | HWolf: depends ;) | 11:04 |
| Kyral | yah | 11:04 |
| Kyral | ~./vlc doesn't exist, period | 11:05 |
| HWolf | slomo, I closed a bug earlier, and got a mail which I have no clue how to deal with. | 11:05 |
| slomo | HWolf: hmm... a rude mail? ;) | 11:05 |
| HWolf | I've got no clue what he's saying, even. | 11:05 |
| HWolf | slomo, agressive, not rude. | 11:05 |
| HWolf | You might want to pass along to the powers that be that I'm getting tired of FIGHTING "software that just works". As I sit here I am seriously contemplating going back to Engarde for my server purposes. | 11:06 |
| HWolf | that's the politest bit. :) | 11:06 |
| HWolf | But I still don't know what piont he was making. | 11:06 |
| crimsun | Kyral: what cpu are you using? | 11:06 |
| Kyral | Athlon XP 2700+ | 11:07 |
| slomo | HWolf: hehe... maybe give the mail to some native english speaker ;) | 11:07 |
| crimsun | Kyral: did you purge vlc and wxvlc? | 11:07 |
| Kyral | When I killed VLC, it took wxvlc with it | 11:07 |
| slomo | crimsun: gst-ffmpeg's ffmpeg seems to be the complete ffmpeg with maybe some changes... so -> multiverse imho | 11:07 |
| HWolf | slomo, I'm doing an international english-language education, I can communicate professionally with over 60 nationalities, but this is just wrong. :) | 11:08 |
| crimsun | slomo: ok | 11:08 |
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| crimsun | Kyral: can you reproduce this on Breezy's stock kernel? | 11:08 |
| slomo | HWolf: lol ok... then answer his mail with a simple "what are you trying to tell me?" ;) | 11:08 |
| Kyral | Uhh....I don't have a Breezy stock kernel anymore.... | 11:08 |
| Kyral | I could reinstall it ;P | 11:09 |
| crimsun | Kyral: or rather Dapper's, which is Breezy's atm... | 11:09 |
| Kyral | ain't initrd stuff messed atm? | 11:09 |
| slomo | crimsun: i'll get a mail ready for next wednesday for moving everything to multiverse | 11:09 |
| slomo | btw... who broke vim? :( | 11:09 |
| crimsun | vim works fine here | 11:09 |
| slomo | i get: Error detected while processing /home/slomo/.vimrc: | 11:10 |
| slomo | line 46: | 11:10 |
| slomo | E484: Can't open file /usr/share/vim/vim63/syntax/syntax.vim | 11:10 |
| slomo | at that line there is "syntax on" | 11:10 |
| Kyral | oh Stock you mean the 386 or the K7? | 11:10 |
| crimsun | Kyral: initramfs is held back (I use aptitude) | 11:10 |
| crimsun | Kyral: either | 11:10 |
| Kyral | What would my kernel have to do with it... | 11:11 |
| crimsun | slomo: why would there be one? Dapper has 6.4. What does line 46 of your ~/.vimrc say? | 11:11 |
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| Kyral | I have to reinstall LRM too...forgot about that... | 11:11 |
| crimsun | oh, syntax on? | 11:11 |
| slomo | crimsun: "syntax on", nothing else ;) i get the same error when doing "syntax on" in a running vim | 11:11 |
| slomo | i wonder why it looks in the 6.3 directories... | 11:12 |
| slomo | there's nothing about that in any config | 11:12 |
| Kyral | Okay here goes | 11:12 |
| crimsun | slomo: which vim packages do you have installed? I only have vim and vim-common | 11:13 |
| slomo | crimsun: vim, vim-gnome and vim-common | 11:14 |
| slomo | it happens with vim and gvim | 11:14 |
| crimsun | might be vim-gnome, then | 11:15 |
| crimsun | though I can't see why | 11:15 |
| slomo | let's purge vim-common and rdepends and see what a reinstall solve ;) | 11:15 |
| crimsun | yeah | 11:15 |
| crimsun | syn on works fine here | 11:15 |
| slomo | Hole:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main vim-common 1:6.3-078+1ubuntu3 [3424kB] | 11:16 |
| slomo | hmmm | 11:16 |
| slomo | let's do an apt-get update before ;) | 11:16 |
| crimsun | hah, yeah | 11:16 |
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| slomo | ok, now everything in 6.4 ;) | 11:17 |
| slomo | works fine | 11:17 |
| slomo | narf | 11:17 |
| slomo | =) | 11:17 |
| crimsun | excellent. | 11:17 |
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| slomo | but the archives seem to be a bit flakey today anyway... | 11:18 |
| Kyral | crimsun: Same thing | 11:18 |
| Kyral | now can I please get outta this kernel. It irks me ;P | 11:19 |
| crimsun | Kyral: ok, then something's amiss in your /usr/lib/vlc | 11:19 |
| Kyral | should I nuke it? | 11:19 |
| crimsun | use vlc -vvv this tme | 11:20 |
| crimsun | time | 11:20 |
| Kyral | its the exact same output | 11:20 |
| crimsun | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3612 is mine | 11:21 |
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| Kyral | I've gotta go to dinner. Which means I'm rebooting to my 2.6.13.4 | 11:21 |
| Kyral | should I kill the /usr/lib/vlc dir? | 11:22 |
| crimsun | purging vlc takes care of that | 11:22 |
| crimsun | I'll need strace output instead | 11:22 |
| Kyral | After dinner mkay? | 11:22 |
| Kyral | I'm hungry | 11:22 |
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| Kyral | crimsun if there is any output you want leave me a PMSG | 11:32 |
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| ogra | slomo, cd /usr/share/vim/ && sudo rm -r vim63 && sudo ln -s vim64 vim63 | 11:37 |
| ogra | slomo, ^^^ workaround | 11:37 |
| slomo | apt-get purge vim-common && apt-get update && apt-get install vim-gnome | 11:37 |
| slomo | imho a better fix ;) | 11:37 |
| slomo | i had some parts of 6.3 and some of 6.4... no idea why | 11:38 |
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| ivoks | yeah! i love VPN :) | 11:54 |
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