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sunshine82techsolo yea i think so12:00
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icemanbob2 dude command not found see flood12:00
sunshine82techsolo how do i check12:00
cyphasenp12:00
auraxhello, anyone here using pptp client ?12:00
techsolosunshine82: lsmod12:00
bob2iceman: dude, you didn't run what I said12:00
bob2iceman: outside, the, chroot.12:00
cyphaseout the cd in the burner, and close the window that pops up12:00
techsolosunshine82: and then that drivers name12:00
titaniumSeveas: now when i try to do anything with nxserver ie --status, --restart it just 'freezes' and stops responding until i press enter, and then it says "quit Quit"12:00
blairanyone want a pirate copy of ubuntu breezy badger?12:00
cyphaseblair, me!12:00
icemani have know ide whats in what out ...12:00
bob2iceman: you're still in the chroot when you're running that command12:00
blairgo dl one from here:  www.ubuntu.com12:00
bob2iceman: look at your bloody prompt12:01
techsoloblair: that's illigal12:01
bob208:00:10         iceman |  (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:/$12:01
bob2in chroot12:01
jonnyu mean put it in?12:01
blairtechsolo, i know...shocking, huh12:01
bob207:35:36         iceman |  iceman@icebox64:~$  dchroot -c mychroot -d12:01
bob2not in chroot12:01
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sunshine82techsolo it on lsmod but it say ovcamchip12:01
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cyphasejonny, yea12:01
amitaykbob2: How do I configure my X to use /dev/psaux? I'm really newbie with this stuff...12:01
cyphaseput*12:01
cyphase:)12:01
blairyou know...if the internationalization included rendering all text in "pirate"....12:01
techsolosunshine82: yeah that's no prob12:01
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blairarrr, ubuntu12:01
pizuxis someone know about dialog program?12:01
sunshine82techsolo it on lsusb as well12:01
bob2amitayk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, choose it for the mouse device12:02
mohkohnthe more I read I think I need to put windoze back on my pc. Just long enough to flash the iriver T30 then it should work like a usb device...or is that a stupic plan?12:02
jonnyok now what12:02
icemanbob2 see #flood12:02
techsolosunshine82: what 's gqcam saying about your webcam12:02
bob2pizux: a) don't ever crapflood the channel again, b) instal lthe 'dialog' package12:02
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cyphasejonny, did a window pop up?12:02
blairmohkohn, you could probably write a flashy thing yourself12:02
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bob2iceman: that is odd12:02
jonnyyes12:02
bob2iceman: 'ls /chroot/bin | wc -l'?12:02
sunshine82techsolo it sayin /dev/video no such device12:02
pizuxi know sorry but dialog program doesn t exist12:03
mohkohnblair does that make sense: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81513&highlight=iriver+t3012:03
pizuxhttp://packages.debian.org/stable/misc/dialog12:03
techsolosunshine82: that's because the driver is'n t right configured12:03
pizuxjust for debian12:03
cyphasejonny, close it12:03
bob2pizux: please stop it12:03
jonnyok12:03
sunshine82techsolo am i meant to opn gqcam in terminal12:03
cyphasethen right click on the iso file12:03
bob2pizux: sudo apt-get install dialog12:03
icemanbob2 flood again12:03
jonnynow what12:03
techsolosunshine82: search on gentoo or ubuntu forums for that12:03
pizuxbob2,12:03
pizux?12:03
bob2pizux: run that command12:03
bob2iceman: 'ls /chroot'12:03
techsolosunshine82: i can't really help you from here12:03
icemanbob2 it sucks ... i know ...12:03
cyphaseand click "Write To Disk..."12:03
blairmohkohn, just a sec...i need to check that link12:04
techsolosunshine82: and in my place it's 0003 hours12:04
pizuxthanks a lot12:04
cyphasedon't start yet though12:04
icemaniceman@icebox64:/chroot$ ls /chroot12:04
icemandebootstrap  home  var12:04
icemaniceman@icebox64:/chroot$12:04
jonnywhere is that12:04
bob2w.t.f.12:04
icemanbob2 sorry for 3 line flood but was quicker12:04
cyphaseright click on the iso12:04
cyphasewhich is probably in your home folder12:04
bob2iceman: did you just delete things in there?12:04
icemanbob2 nope12:05
bob2iceman: wait, you didn't use /var/chroot?12:05
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jonnyok12:05
bob2or you did12:05
titaniumi don't even know what the hell is going on now. when i try to do anything nxserver related it says "HELLO NXSERVER" and pauses and won't do anything else.12:05
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jonny3X12:05
bob2then you ignored it, and used /chroot12:05
cyphasethat's good12:05
blairmohkohn, looks like ifp and lsusb have different ideas about accessing the ports12:05
cyphasestart it then12:05
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bob2iceman: ls /var/chroot12:05
jonnyok its doing that but iv gtg eat later12:05
icemanbob2 #flood12:06
cyphasejonny, how long12:06
cyphasebecause i have to do something to :)12:06
jonnyto eat dinner?12:06
cyphaselol12:06
cyphasei'll brb to then12:06
bob2iceman: why were you doing anything in /chroot at all, then?12:06
icemanbob2 ? question whats ls command ?12:06
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bob2iceman: ls = list contents of directory12:07
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bob2iceman: 'file /var/chroot/bin/ls'12:07
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icemanbob2 to run wine in 64 bit ..12:07
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bob2iceman: no, your chroot is in /var/chroot.  /chroot/ is some unrelated and almost empty directory12:07
thrushspeaking of ls is there a better way than ls | more to do like dir /p?12:07
bob2thrush: better how?12:07
icemanposting in flood again12:08
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thrushls is all colorful and nice more is a little bland12:08
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DruQksGreetings!12:08
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KassahQuestion: using the LiveCD to test out on my lappy... however I left it sitting to long and I've got a screensaver password... yet I never entered a password12:08
thrushand one column12:08
bob2Kassah: known bug, sadly12:08
amitaykbob2: I've try to reconfigure my mouse but with no success. This time, I've told it to imluate a 3-button mouse (Which I use) but without the wheel option.12:08
Kassahpretty screensaver though12:09
bob2iceman: then you're fine12:09
Kassahbob2, is there a default password?12:09
bob2iceman: dchroot, then 'sudo apt-get install wine'12:09
icemanbob2 i take it that the boot stuff i wanted is there, now how to get wine working >12:09
bob2Kassah: I don't think so12:09
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Seveasthread, ls --color | less12:09
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concept10what is the fastest ubuntu repo us.archive.com or just archive.ubuntu.com??12:09
Seveasthrush*12:09
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DruQksI require slight assistance with installing Ubuntu. It freezes at the beginning of the installation process when trying to boot up it's Kernel. I've verified my installation image.12:09
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P8ntKidbob2, After i let apt download and install breezy. Should i restart my computer or what?12:10
Stormx2chmod to full read, write, whatever. How do i do it?12:10
bob2concept10: that would of course depend on where yo uare, how you and your isp are connected to the internet, and what the phase of the moon is12:10
bob2P8ntKid: once everything is done, yes12:10
blairDruQks, what kind processor and what build ubuntu?12:10
bob2Stormx2: terrible idea, but mode 77712:10
icemanbob2 nope no installation candidate this would kill flood ...12:10
bob2iceman: then fix your /etc/apt/sources.list IN THE CHROOT12:10
Stormx2bob2 - Well, what is the standard permissions for folders?12:10
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DruQksIt's an Acer TravelMate 8thousandsomething and it's the latest version of ubuntu I got from the website.12:10
concept10bob2, supposed to be a full moon tonight, maybe I will try when it gets dark12:10
thrushSeveas: might look better when im not ssh'd into the computer thx12:10
P8ntKidbob2, At the website you gave me. It says to do stuff for after the upgrade. Should i do that after i restart or before?12:11
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icemanbob2 partly understand that ... where to get a good sources.list file12:11
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Seveasthrush, works fine over ssh for me12:11
cafuego!info libc6 dapper12:11
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louis_hi all12:11
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DruQksJust saw that linux acpi=off noacpi should work.....12:12
thrushSeveas: got ESC for each line oh but that box is running slackware so...12:12
Kassahbob2: is there a default root password?12:12
bob2iceman: /etc/apt/sources.list OUTSIDE the chroot, just copy it in to /var/chrtoo/etc/apt/sources.list, fixing typoes12:12
bob2Kassah: no12:12
bob2cafuego: hah12:12
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Kassahbob2: or some way to change the user pass from command line?12:12
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bob2Kassah: yes, 'passwd ubuntu', if youcan get a terminal12:12
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bob2Kassah: if you had a terminal, tho, you could just kill xscreensaver12:12
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icemanbob2 trying to find the sources list in chroot .. ?12:13
Kassahbob2, I've got a console by going Ctrl+Alt+F112:13
NightLordWhy do I get an error saying "USB_Connection_Error: Not permitted in configuration file" when trying to copy music from my mp3 player12:13
ispiked_why doesn't something like <Control>. work as a keyboard shorcut in the configuration editor?12:13
P8ntKidbob2, At the website you gave me. It says to do stuff for after the upgrade. Should i do that after i restart or before?12:13
Kassahbob2, but changing the password asks me for the current one12:13
sunshine82does anyone have a ame webcam12:13
blairKassah it should be the same as your default user password12:13
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bob2iceman: no12:13
sunshine82with nw801 chipset12:14
amitaykbob2: I've try to reconfigure my mouse but with no success. This time, I've told it to imluate a 3-button mouse (Which I use) but without the wheel option.12:14
bob2iceman: copy it into the chroot12:14
titaniumbob2 or seveas: if i reinstall breezy, clean, and the very first thing i do is apt-get install ssh && apt-get install freenx  (using seveas' repository) do you think that would work? im fed up with this and i need freenx12:14
blairon installation both passwords are set the same12:14
NightLordWhy do I get an error saying "USB_Connection_Error: Not permitted in configuration file" when trying to copy music from my mp3 player12:14
Kassahblair, it's the livecd... never asked me for a password12:14
bob2Kassah: 'sudo passwd ubuntu'12:14
icemanbob2 knowing where to copy from and to where ...12:14
bob2P8ntKid: after12:14
bob2iceman: dude12:14
bob208:12:11           bob2 | iceman: /etc/apt/sources.list OUTSIDE the chroot, just copy it in to /var/chrtoo/etc/apt/sources.list, fixing typoes12:14
Kassahkilling xscreensaver killed X...grr12:14
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bob2iceman: I don't mind you not understanding things, but you need to say WHICH bit of my sentences confuse you12:14
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blairKassah, try ctrl-alt-F1 to get to a terminal window12:15
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bob2titanium: I don't know enough about your situation to guess, sorry12:15
Seveastitanium, the problem seems to be in your network12:15
bob2amitayk: that's unelated to using a ps/2 mouse12:15
Seveascan you ping/ssh to the machine?12:15
Kassahoops... looks like I pretty well screwed up X12:15
bob2amitayk: the crucial things are telling it to use /dev/psaux, and the mouse protocol12:15
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Kassahand the display12:15
bob2Seveas: he/she got login failures in auth.log when trying to connect12:16
aguthrieI just hit ctrl+alt+F1 and I got taken to some bare-bones terminal type thing. how do I get back to my graphical session. I can still hear my music playing! :P12:16
blairKassah, can you reboot and get it back?12:16
bob2aguthrie: ctral-alt-f712:16
Kassahwell I'll be booting off the livecd... so I'll lose the data I had entered12:16
blairaguthrie, what he said12:16
bob2iceman: so12:16
ispiked_blair: cheers. :)12:16
concept10I have a problem with fixing a broken package: Setting up gtkboard (0.11pre0-3) ...12:16
concept10error in control file: `Format' value not specified at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 715, <IN> line 17.12:16
icemanbob2 i did sudo gedit, and copied my existing sources.list from my original file to var/chroot and replaced the one that was in there12:16
bob2iceman: when I say "in the chroot", I mean "after you run dchroot and see '(mychroot)' in your prompt"12:16
Kassahaguthrie, should be able to get back to X by Ctrl+Alt+F712:17
bob2iceman: when I say "outside the chroot", I mean "quite dchroot and make sure (mychroot) is not in your prompt"12:17
bob2iceman: now, chroot in (dchroot) and run 'sudo apt-get update'12:17
ispiked_Kassah: Thanks. :)12:17
P8ntKidbob2, In the post upgrade section it says to edit something in my xorg.conf, should i do that before or after i restart?12:17
ispiked_Kassah: aguthrie was me.12:17
bob2P8ntKid: doesn't matter, but before will be simpler12:18
titaniumSeveas : but if i have no firewall and i can ssh to it what could block nx?12:18
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P8ntKidbob2, Ok thanks. Ill do the whole post upgrade thing before i restart i guess.12:18
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icemanbob2 see flood12:18
Seveastitanium, wait a sec: you *manually* downloaded packages right?12:19
dynobob2, nothing on the web for my soundcard :/12:19
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titaniumSeveas: the .deb files? i just added your site to my sources.list and did apt-get12:19
Seveasok12:19
dynoso i can't read chinese or russian*12:19
icemanbobs doing apt-get update see what it does12:19
blairthe heck with this...i gotta go grill somethin'12:19
Seveas(there are untested newer versions available too, but they're not in the lists yet :)12:19
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concept10im starting to hate APT12:20
kevogodWhy?12:20
titaniumSeveas: i think im just going to reinstall breezy when i get home because this shit is insane, i'm out of ideas12:20
amitaykbob2: How do I do it?12:20
concept10470 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 283 not upgraded. <-- not upgraded, WHY?12:20
Seveasconcept10, apt-get dist-upgrade12:20
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concept10Seveas, heh12:21
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concept10oops12:21
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SeveasKassah, :)12:21
P8ntKidbob2, What window manager do you use? I was just wondering.12:21
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cafuegoKassah: omg! omg! I glued like this massive wing to my cpu to speed it up!12:22
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Kassahcafuego, lmao... my first cpu I tried to put in a computer.... I managed to melt to the fan... havn't messed with hardware overclocking since12:23
Stormx2FTP Client, what would you recommend?12:23
concept10Seveas, thanks...dumb mistake12:23
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agtStormx2::  gftp works for me12:24
locustCan you execute .run files on ubuntu?12:24
Kassahaww... it broke it's autodetect track record on my lappy... can't find the modem12:24
jbroomei like ncftpt12:24
cappizcan someone tell me about a nice webcam sttream server?12:24
jbroomeor, if you wnat it to work, ncftp12:24
sunshine82how come nw802 driver is in warty but not in breezy#] 12:25
icemanbob2 no idea if in or out .. but it is updating a lot12:25
icemanchroot12:25
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amitaykbob2: How do I tell it to use psaux?12:25
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icemanbob2 seems to not want to update if in chroot12:26
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icemanbob2 posted output in flood12:26
aguthrieSo, I did ctrl+alt+backspace to logout but it put me to the barebones terminal thing again. How do I get back to the graphical login screen without rebooting?12:26
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P8ntKidbob2, Ok, it finished downloading all the packages. But it didnt install them? Why?12:27
locustHow do you use .run files in Ubuntu?12:27
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KurtKrautWhere can I find some plugins to be added to gnome, such as CPU graphic ?12:28
P8ntKidbob2, It also gave me an error that sais it failed to fetch these 3 packages. But it still didnt install any of them.12:28
ugahi there, anyone knows about network issues in ubuntu/kubuntu/debian?12:28
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iceman(mychroot)iceman@icebox64:/$ apt-get install update12:28
icemanE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)12:28
icemanE: Unable to lock the list directory12:28
iceman(mychroot)iceman@icebox64:/$12:28
aguthrieuga: what's up?12:28
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aguthrieiceman: is synaptics running?12:28
icemannope12:28
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ugaaguthrie: it looks like dhclient is failing here... the router receives the requests but no responce is received back12:28
starscalling!w32deb12:29
ubotuw32deb is probably download a ready to use w32codecs deb at http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (hoary) or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (breezy)12:29
ugai had debian installed before, which after an upgrade began with these sympthoms, now i installed kubuntu, with the same problem12:29
aguthrieuga: hrm...12:29
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ugaaguthrie: iptables is clear, I tried pinging with static ip, with the same problem12:29
cafuegoKurtKraut: Right click the panel and choose "Add to panel...'12:29
cafuegoKurtKraut: There's a system monitor applet, try that.12:29
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HukChoboWhen I build a vanilla 2.6.13 kernel I no longer get cdrom insert detection in GNOME, although the disc is mounted in /media/cdrom0. With Ubuntu 2.6.12 I get an icon in the desktop and a nautilus window upon cdrom insertion. What do I need to do to get this to work with a vanilla kernel?12:30
cafuegoKurtKraut: if that fails, try gdesktlets, which contain far more status monitor shit than you'l;ll ever need or want.12:30
aguthrieuga: so you can't even connect with a static IP?12:30
P8ntKidCan anybody help me with updating from hoary to breezy using apt? I am following the guide that is in the channel topic. It downloads all the packages but it doesnt install them, It just downloaded them.12:30
icemananyone willing to ssh access and config this ... i'm ready to just drop 64 bit ... this has been over a 10 hour fight ..12:30
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ugaaguthrie: neither. No ping responses. This guy reported the same thing I just found: http://groups.google.com/http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/d144ad2c1d167134/efec30857bde1674?lnk=st&q=debian+dhcp+not+working&rnum=2#efec30857bde1674Rigroup/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/d144ad2c1d167134/efec30857bde1674?lnk=st&q=debian+dhcp+not+working&rnum=2#efec30857bde1674Ri12:30
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ugasorry... argh, double paste12:30
ugahttp://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/d144ad2c1d167134/efec30857bde1674?lnk=st&q=debian+dhcp+not+working&rnum=2#efec30857bde1674Ri12:31
cafuegoiceman: hint: sudo12:31
aguthrieuga: I'm not really in a position where I can read that now. :P12:31
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amitaykbob2: How do I tell it to use psaux?12:31
ugaaguthrie: ahk. sorry, hehe. Well, the routing table is empty, the router receives the query, sends it back, but it doesn't receive it12:31
icemancafuego i have done sudo ,, no sudo .. and no luck ..12:31
madsenSo, does anyone know how to make sure that the mousedev module doesn't take control of my tablet when I plug it? (Via usb.)12:31
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cafuegoiceman: Then remove the lock file and try again.12:31
locustHow can I run something in terminal as super user?12:31
madsenlocust: sudo12:32
cafuegolocust: sudo <comething>12:32
Kassahokay... off to try the 64 bit livecd on my desktop12:32
icemanwhats locked12:32
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aguthrieuga: you wouldn't know how to get back to a login screen after I did ctrl+alt+backspace, would you? hrm, could I start x and then do ctrl+alt+f7?12:32
locustso to install ati drivers I'd type sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.18.6-i386.run ?12:32
madsencafuego: comething? Eww! :-p12:32
grogoreohi12:32
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P8ntKidCan anybody help me with updating from hoary to breezy using apt? I am following the guide that is in the channel topic. It downloads all the packages but it doesnt install them, It just downloaded them.12:32
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propagandhiuga: can you paste the contents of the '/etc/network/interfaces' to the pastebin12:32
cafuegoiceman: /var/lib/apt/lists/lock ?12:32
ugaaguthrie: I'm a coder, so somehow I know ;)12:32
icemanIM LOST ...12:32
ugapropagandhi: sure, hehe12:33
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grogoreowhile doing a dist-upgrade, it says Unable to fetch some archives... and says I should do a apt-get update. After, should a do another dist-upgrade?12:33
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cafuegoiceman: You need to be root when running apt; accrding to your pase you aren't. Make sure sudo is set up the the cheroot; it needs to be suid root.12:33
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cafuegos/pase/paste/12:33
grogoreoalso should i just do apt-get update --fix-missing instead of just doing apt-get update?12:33
ugapropagandhi: ugh, copy pasting is impossible, I'll have to copy by hand... :/12:33
uganotice Ig ot no network there12:33
icemanSomeone .... do a remote and fix this ...12:33
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aguthriehelp12:33
P8ntKidgrogoreo, Are you trying to update from hoary to breezy?12:33
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aguthriedarn. sorry about that.12:33
grogoreoP8ntKid, yep12:33
propagandhiuga: there shouldnt be much to copy12:33
axteroidewenas12:33
P8ntKidgrogoreo, I have the same exact problem as you.12:34
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bob2amitayk: as the mouse device...12:34
bob2P8ntKid: how could it install things it failed to fetch?12:34
grogoreoP8ntKid, the problem went after saying a connection timeout from download openoffice12:34
sizzamis there a command i can issue to get more info on my video card (chipset, etc)12:34
P8ntKidbob2, It only failed to fetch 3 packages.12:34
madsensizzam: lspci12:34
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icemani got 42% of the x86 cd downloaded, thats my only other choice .. or fight this stupid thing, and aggrivate myself and who ever is trying to help12:34
bob2P8ntKid: so show us the error in #flood12:34
cafuegosizzam: 'lspci' ?12:34
bob2iceman: holy fuck12:34
DruQksHey, new Ubuntu setup question. I have 15.7GB of free space, I tell the setup to use that. I have WinXP on my C: drive which I want to continue using. Should I have Ubuntu make the new partition a logical or primary one?12:34
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amitaykbob2: Well, I don't really know how the set things up.12:35
sizzamthanks cafuego, madsen12:35
bob2iceman: just reinstall it them12:35
madsensizzam: np :)12:35
bob2amitayk: so, run that command and walk through until it asks what mouse device to use12:35
icemanbob2 dude, 10 hours fighting to no avail ...12:35
evilnice program12:35
bob2iceman: I've told you command-by-command how to fix it12:35
P8ntKidbob2, I did.12:35
Phazemanhi all. how do i make services to start/stop at boot ? the alternative to mandriva's chkconfig ?12:35
amitaykbob2: I can't recall it asked for the mouse protocol.\12:35
cafuegoPhazeman: 'rcconf'12:35
grogoreobut do I have a Breezy install? Or Hoary/Breezy one?12:35
bob2P8ntKid: 'sudo apt-get update', try dist-upgrade again12:35
Grinakcan anyone recommend a good way to clone\image a breezy build to another hard drive?12:35
bob2DruQks: doesn't matter12:35
cafuegoGrinak: 'dd' ?12:35
Phazemancafuego: thanks12:36
madsenPhazeman: update-rc.d or System -> Administration -> Services12:36
bob2DruQks: except that windows will bitch if you have more than 4 primary partitions12:36
icemanbob2 there seems to be stuff missing ... lost, and LOcked ...12:36
grogoreoI've just done 'apt-get update --fix-missing' and nohting new's been downloaded12:36
DruQksbob2, Can I have 2 primary partitions on a HD?12:36
ugapropagandhi: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/357012:36
KyralYes12:36
P8ntKidbob2, I got an error at the end of the update12:36
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DruQksbob2, what's the difference between a primary/logical one?12:36
Kyralup to 412:36
cafuegobob2: fdisk won't let you make more than 4.12:36
ugapropagandhi: as I saw eth0 isn't in auto, I ifup'ed eth0 manually12:36
P8ntKidbob2, I pasted it in flood12:36
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uga(just in case you think it's not started up ;))12:36
bob2iceman: that's because you didn't run the command I told you to12:36
bob2cafuego: ah12:36
icemanbbo2, can you ssh in if i do all the premissions and take a look at least ..12:36
bob2DruQks: yes12:36
bob2iceman: no, I'm not going to do that12:37
ugapropagandhi: if you use dhcp instead of static, then it'll get no dhcp responses...12:37
bob2P8ntKid: looks like a temporary mirror issue12:37
cafuegoDruQks: a logical partition is a placegholder for extended partitions; not something that contains data itself.12:37
propagandhiuga, have u tried adding a gateway line12:37
icemanbob2 i understand ... but i have done commeand in chroot, out of chroot12:37
P8ntKidbob2, Yea, your right. I did update again and it went through fine. now  do dist-upgrade?12:37
ugapropagandhi: gateway when I can't even ping the gateway?12:37
bob2iceman: no, you didn't, sorry12:37
icemaniceman@icebox64:~$ dchroot12:37
icemanExecuting shell in 'mychroot' chroot.12:37
icemanNo directory, logging in with HOME=/12:37
iceman(mychroot)iceman@icebox64:/$ logout12:37
icemaniceman@icebox64:~$12:37
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bob2iceman: and I'm not sure how to make it more clear12:37
bob2iceman: do. not. paste. crap. in. here.12:38
bob2P8ntKid: yes.12:38
cafuegoDruQks: Some moron decided back in the 80s that 4 partitions should be enough for anyone, so we got this ugly-ass hack to get around that :-)12:38
jsoris there a good way to install mozilla-mailnews on breezy?  My only option seems to be downgrading libnspr4 (and most of gnome with it)12:38
icemanbob2 just lets you know where i am12:38
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bob2iceman: for instance, 'apt-get install update' is not a valid command anywhere12:38
P8ntKidbob2, It says it has to download another 455mb. Is that right?12:38
bob2iceman: and I certainly did not ask you to run it12:38
cafuegojsor: thunderbird is your friend! :-)12:38
ugapropagandhi: tried, didn't work...12:38
bob2P8ntKid: I don't know (you haven't told me enough)12:38
calamariis there a command line way to find out the dependencies of the installed package kstars?12:38
propagandhihttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/357112:38
P8ntKidbob2, Nvm12:38
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bob2iceman: run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install wine' in the chroot12:38
propagandhiuga: thats my interfaces config12:39
jsorcafuego, it's my friend for sure, but my parents are resistant to change12:39
bob2iceman: if you can't explain which part of that is confusing, then I cannot help you anymore, sorry12:39
chuloshi somebody knows about a bug on distribution keyboard?12:39
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bob2calamari: apt-cache show blah12:39
icemanbob2 in chroot ... now to insure i am there ?12:39
calamaribob2: thanks12:39
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cafuegojsor: Tell them it's smaller, faster, more secure.12:39
Phazemanok.. now... how do i see through the list of installed packages ?12:39
DruQksHow large should I make my linux boot partition?12:39
Phazemansomething like i was used to do with rpm -q12:39
madsencalamari: Alternatively: apt-cache depends <package>12:39
cafuegojsor: Surely they won't mind thunderbird loading in1  second as opposed to mozilla's 12.12:39
alekzcan someone recommend me a nice alternative of Macromedia Dream Weaver ?12:39
propagandhiuga: and if you're certain theres no other lines in the interfaces file12:39
madsenPhazeman: dpkg -l12:40
propagandhiuga: do you have webmin by chance12:40
AcidPilsPhazeman: aptitude is your friend12:40
Phazemanmadsen: cool ! thanks12:40
icemanbob2 i got (mychroot))iceman@icebox64:/$12:40
iceman  so that means i am in chroot ... correct12:40
madsenPhazeman: np :)12:40
bob2iceman: ok, good luck with your reinstall12:40
PhazemanAcidPils: i was asking CLI12:40
calamarimadsen: excellent! :)12:40
bob2iceman: yes, I have said that about half a dozen times12:40
Phazemanmadsen: it;s really hard to get used to somthing THAT different from urpmi ;-)12:40
ugapropagandhi: I'm pretty sure it's not a configure issue. I've used 4 distros without problems on the same machine with the same network settings12:40
madsenPhazeman: You might want dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'}  if you just want the names of the packages. :)12:40
ugapropagandhi: it's somethign to do with blocking received packs12:40
Phazemanyeah... thought of it already L()12:40
icemanbob2 i'm learning here ... what to look at .. look for, and to pay attention12:40
ugapropagandhi: notice the router _does_ receive the dhcp requests12:41
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jsorcafuego, if I can't install mailnews, then there isn't much of an option12:41
ugabut no input is received back12:41
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grogoreowell I've just restarted my computer and no breezy!12:41
bob2iceman: yes, which is why I was so expliciti12:41
icemanbob2 see flood ...12:41
propagandhiuga: yes, but you cant ping your gateway or other machines on the network right12:41
P8ntKidbob2, I got an error while its unpacking this package. Look in #flood12:41
davidleerothI have a problem. i apt-get'd gcc and g++, but now everything I compile errors.12:41
cafuegojsor: Let me have a look...12:41
bob2iceman: (mychroot) in your prompt = in the chroto12:41
madsenK, how the heck do I block a driver (mousedev) from taking control of my tablet when I plug it in?12:41
bob2iceman: I don't know how to make that any cleaerer12:41
davidleerothIt says xxx.h not found12:41
bob2davidleeroth: install build-essential12:41
davidleerothok12:41
ugapropagandhi: obviously, since if no dhcp responses are received, I really doubt any ping responses will reach here either12:41
bob2P8ntKid: that's fine, and not an error12:41
icemanbob2 that is what i get .. no sudo12:41
alekzcan someone recommend me a nice alternative of Macromedia Dream Weaver ??'12:42
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bob2iceman: right, so either install it, or su to root (I don't know how you setup the chroot)12:42
cafuegojsor: 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mailnews' isn't doing its thing?12:42
madsenalekz: vim ;-p12:42
propagandhiuga: you said even with a static IP12:42
P8ntKidbob2, Ok, i hit yes. Is it ok to eave xchat running while its upgrading?12:42
bob2alekz: you'll probably be happier on windows then12:42
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bob2alekz: you may like nvu12:42
ugapropagandhi: yes12:42
bob2P8ntKid: yes12:42
davidleerothbob2, I effing love you.... You are now king of the universe and the new lead singer of Van Halen...12:42
P8ntKidbob2, Ok thanks. You are most helpful person ever.12:42
plumpkinalekz, bluefish is alright as well12:42
ugapropagandhi: something is blocking network responses, and I'm not sure why12:42
propagandhiuga: I was having this problem also and thats why I am asking12:42
madsenbob2: For me vim works fine as an alternative to dreamweaver. ;)12:42
cappizcan someone tell me about a nice webcam sttream server?12:42
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davidleeroththank you so much12:43
bob2madsen: hah12:43
amitaykbob2: I'm now in the first screen dealing with the mouse. It is asking about emulating 3 button mouse.12:43
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starscallingum12:43
bob2amitayk: then say yes if you have a two butotn mouse12:43
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grogoreoshould I do a dist-upgrade again? If I do, will the current files I downloaded be used?12:43
propagandhiI fixed mine because the kubuntu final cd when installed added a static route in  the interfaces file12:43
starscallingwould anyone have another package for msttcorefonts?12:43
Kassahneat12:43
madsenamitayk: Can't harm to say yes afaik.12:43
icemanbob2 i have know idea .. how ever the web directed is what i have set up12:43
propagandhiwhich blocked all my traffic12:43
starscallingseems all of them time out :/12:43
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bob2grogoreo: yes12:43
ugapropagandhi: when I was in debian I thought I had screwed up something with the settings. Installing kubuntu now I found it's got to do with debian based distros12:43
Kassahhowever... the mirror'd monitors thing is kinda annoying... but so far nothing but windows autodetects the fact I have two monitors12:44
icemanbob2 here was my guide ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28debootstrap%2912:44
ugaand it's something I didn't have problems with before12:44
amitaykbob2: Not it asking about enabling scroll events from mouse whell (Which I don't have)12:44
madsenuga: What's the problem?12:44
bob2starscalling: then download them manually from corefonts.sf.net, or wait and try again later12:44
bob2amitayk: then say no...12:44
propagandhiuga: have u got webmin12:44
ugamadsen: dhcpclient responses arent' received by the machine...12:44
DruQksHow large should I make my linux boot partition?12:44
cafuegojsor: ?12:44
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ugapropagandhi: unless it's default, no12:44
DruQks1gb enough?12:44
bob2iceman: 'sudo chroot /var/chroot', from outside the chroot12:44
ugaand I can't install anythign without a network12:44
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bob2iceman: then, you'll be inside it, as root; run 'passwd' to set a root password for the chroot12:45
madsenuga: Hmm, i've only experienced that once in the 4 years I've been running Debian...12:45
ugamadsen: no dhcp responses, nor I can ping the router with static ip settings12:45
bob2DruQks: you don't need a seperate boot partition at all12:45
cafuegoDruQks: Were you the one with 15 gb free?12:45
DruQksbob2, isn't it better?12:45
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jsorcafuego, yeah, any luck?12:45
amitaykbob2: Well, still the mouse is not functioning12:45
DruQkscafuego, yeah. . . was told that a seperate boot/data partition would be better.12:45
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cafuegojsor: 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mailnews' isn't doing its thing?12:45
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cafuegojsor: (You need the universe repository)12:45
madsenuga: You sure your NIC is setup properly? (I had a problem where it loaded 2 kernel modules for my NIC and they spent their time fighting over the NIC instead of giving me net.)12:45
jsorcafuego, wait, I missed your earlier question12:45
icemanpasswd: password updated successfully12:46
starscallingthanx bob212:46
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ugamadsen: NIC as in network interface configuration? yup12:46
virgoHi, I'm wondering if it is possible to play WMV files in Ubuntu...12:46
bob2DruQks: no12:46
bob2amitayk: it never asked you for a device name?12:46
DruQksRight you are then, thanks.12:46
Kassahokay... just trying to play shoutcast... getting error: There is no element present to handle the streams mime type audio/mpeg12:46
bob2virgo: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (linked from the FAQ)12:46
amitaykbob2: Not even once12:46
icemanbob2 and a chroot prompt in ch12:46
Kassahhow do I go about fixing this?12:46
madsenuga: NIC as in Network Interface Card - are you sure only 1 module is trying to take control of it?12:46
cafuegoDruQks: A separate boot AFTER a windows partition is pointless. Maybe rseparate system and /home though.12:46
ugamadsen: if you can access this: http://tinyurl.com/create.php12:46
amitaykbob2: Unless I'm drunk...12:46
DruQksOk.12:46
ugamadsen: it's tulip, it's loaded, but _NOT_ being used12:46
ugalsmod says 0 uses12:46
ugawhich gets me worried ;)12:47
bob2Kassah: you need to provide more info; e.g. what program that error is from12:47
bob2amitayk: odd12:47
icemanbob2 how to run and login to chroot ...12:47
P8ntKidI swear, bob2 is a computer.12:47
P8ntKidLol12:47
Kassahumm... Music Player it seems12:47
CrakerJakhey guyz! can anyone please tellme how to edit my grub. so that Window is my defualt OP..?12:47
madsenuga: Yeah, it does that with my nic too - no worries there.12:47
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jsorcafuego, yeah, I have universe installed.  apt-getting mozilla-mailnews returns "mozilla-mailnews: Depends: mozilla-browser (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 is to be installed"12:47
ugauhm12:47
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cafuegoDruQks: In which case, probably 5 GB /, 10GB /home and 512MB swap12:47
amitaykbob2: I can agree with that...12:47
KassahRythmbox 0.8.812:47
madsenuga: Tried the tulip_old module? (Or whatever it's called?)12:47
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madsenuga: My server's running Debian with a tulip card - no problems there. Ever.12:47
cafuego!info mozilla-browser12:47
ubotumozilla-browser: (The Mozilla Internet application suite - core and browser), section web, is optional. Version: 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 8964 kB, Installed size: 27884 kB12:48
bob2iceman: I don't know what you mean12:48
bob2iceman: the command I gave you will get you into the chroot, as root.12:48
ugamadsen: sorry, obviously I pasted the url wrong before. this guy had the same issue, this same month http://tinyurl.com/ane2g12:48
bob2CrakerJak: /boot/grub/menu.lst12:48
cafuegojsor: Run 'sudo apt-get update' first, then try...12:48
ugamadsen: uhm. I'll check if I find such module...12:48
bob2amitayk: maybe you need to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf yourself then12:48
Kassahbob2, Rythembox12:48
thestimpieI've 3 alternatives for java, how do I make sure 1 jvm is used?12:48
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icemanbob2 well i am guessin i am in chroot from the prompt .. but now ?12:49
jsorcafuego, apt-get update didn't find anything new12:49
SeveasKassah: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound12:49
starscallingbob2, i just install rpm to run that font rpm right?12:49
RastaMahataupdate-alternatives12:49
madsenuga: What does lspci have to say about your nic?12:49
CrakerJakbob2, ok then what do I change??12:49
cafuegojsor: Hmm, do you have breezy-updates and breezy-security enabled?12:49
bob2iceman: now run the other thing I told you to run12:49
jsorcafuego, has it installed fine for you then?12:49
icemanbob2 apt-get install update ?12:49
bob2starscalling: no, this plan does not involve rpms at all12:49
icemanbob2 did the password ...12:50
jsorcafuego, I'll check my sources.list12:50
bob2iceman: no, that command does not exist, at all, ever12:50
KassahSeveas, k12:50
amitaykbob2: How do I run an editor?12:50
bob2iceman: then 'sudo apt-get update'12:50
bob2amitayk: you've never edited a config file before?12:50
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calamariafter doing some updates, kstars really loads down my system.. is there a way to troubleshoot this?  top shows Xorg as using the cpu (65-70%)12:50
bob2starscalling: get the fonts themselves12:50
ugamadsen: uhm, sorry, I'll be able to respond when the machine restarts. trying to rmmod tulip while eth0 was up wasn't good =)12:50
icemansudo command not found12:50
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CrakerJakbob2, So what is it that I change??12:51
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icemanbecause i am root already .. my guess12:51
madsenuga: No, especially if you used -f . ;)12:51
amitaykbob2: In unix-like system? Never in my life.12:51
bob2CrakerJak: uh, read it? the "default" option.12:51
bob2iceman: apt-get update.12:51
bob2amitayk: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:51
madseniceman: No, then it'd say that 'root' isn't allowed to sudo.12:51
bob2amitayk: or whatever the file is called12:51
cafuegojsor: There's a manual override: wget -c http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla/mozilla-browser_1.7.12-0ubuntu2_i386.deb; sudo dpkg -i mozilla-browser_1.7.12-0ubuntu2_i386.deb12:51
madseniceman: or something...12:51
ugamadsen: it just seems to wait until the module is freed. I tried ifdown, but it got stuck12:51
madsenuga: :(12:51
stimpieRastaMahata, I changed Alternative to  "/usr/local/jre1.5.0_05/bin/java12:51
stimpie" but eclipse still uses "/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj"12:51
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icemanbob2 it did update ...12:51
bob2iceman: now 'apt-get install wine'12:52
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jsorcafuego, I have breezy-security for universe, but not breezy-updates for universe.  I'll see if I can take care of that12:52
Kassahyay... shoutcast12:52
odie5533Is there a place that has an overview of the directory structure of linux? Such as why there is /usr/lib and /lib12:52
icemanbob2 it is finaly downloading ... 14.5 mb of infor ... thanks for the extreme patients ...12:52
cafuegojsor: *nod* If it, just go the manual route. The package versions will probably sort themselves out later on when the mirrors update.12:53
amitaykbob2: I got it. Should I set it in the device field to "/dev/psaux"?12:53
ugamadsen: Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation EN-1216 Ethernet adapter (rev 11)12:53
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bob2amitayk: does it currently say "/dev/input/mice"?12:53
amitaykbob2: Yeap.12:53
bob2amitayk: odd that it doesn't work then, but try changing it12:54
jsorcafuego, yeah, adding breezy-updates for universe took care of the problem.  thanks for your help12:54
madsenuga: Hmm... Try 'find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -iname "*tulip*"' and see if anything comes up.12:54
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flinthas anyone out there dealt with making exim read more than one "canonical" machine name?  I need to have mail.flint.com get mail for flint.com as well.12:54
Kassahhow do I go about setting up my desktop to span two monitors?12:54
flintgott love a good pun...12:54
Kassahis there a user friendly way of doing it?12:55
starscallingoo12:55
bob2flint: should be simple12:55
flintKassah, not that i know of.12:55
starscallingthat sounds like fun Kassah :)12:55
bob2Kassah: "xinerama" is the key word, search the wiki12:55
Kassahwhee! off I go12:56
ugamadsen: there's a xircom_tulip_cb, but it doesn't seem to load the card12:56
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madsenuga: Hmm... Hang on a sec...12:56
flintbob2, /etc/exim/exim.conf would be the place, but what is the tag?12:56
ugamadsen: uhmm... not sure if I should kiss you ;)12:56
bob2flint: you're using exim3?12:57
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bob2tha's YHL, HAND territory12:57
ugamadsen: something weird happenned, not sure if I was just lucky and it worked on this boot.. or ... I loaded all tulip inner modules one by one, trying to ifup eth0 on each12:57
madsenuga: Huh? I'm not sure about that either? Why would you want to do that? :)12:57
HaroldJohnson_Anyone here use text browsers?12:57
ugamadsen: then I loaded tulip, and it pings my router! =)12:57
ugathat's why ;P12:57
jonnycyphase...12:57
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flintbob2, actually that is one of the problems bob, it appears to be exim & exim412:57
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bob2HaroldJohnson_: lots of people, best if you just ask your question12:57
CrakerJakbob2, yea I removed the savedefault from Ubuntu and added to Windowsos that it!!12:57
madsenuga: Weird!12:57
bob2flint: get rid of the exim package12:57
amitaykbob2: Well I've fuck it all up. I didn't notice this is a SERIAL connection and not a PS/2. Stupid me.12:58
HaroldJohnson_What's better: links-ssl or elinks?12:58
bob2amitayk: ah, that would be the problem then12:58
bob2amitayk: /dev/ttyS0 = com1, /dev/ttyS1 = com2, etc12:58
amitaykbob2: LOL...12:58
flintbob2, gotta go get the wife.  Rebuilding with Postfix seems like a good idea.  Thanks12:58
jonnycyphase...IT WORKED!12:58
ugamadsen: in debian if I'm not wrong, it began working after I removed every iptable related module. I thought it was firewall related. Now I think it must be something debian does to the kernel...12:58
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HaroldJohnson_Let me rephrase the question: What's your opinion of the best text browser out there?12:58
bob2flint: yeah, postfix will ask you this directly12:58
madsenuga: Do yourself a favour - if it's working now, do 'lsmod | awk {'print $1'} > ~/modules_list_working.txt' and save that file in case it should break on next boot.12:58
bob2HaroldJohnson_: links212:58
ugamadsen: ah sure, thanks12:59
jonnyIT WORKED! IT WORKED!,cyphase!12:59
nadiaHarold, Lynx12:59
madsenuga: Then you'll always know what modules were loaded when it worked. ;)12:59
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cyphasehey jonny12:59
jonnywoohoo12:59
mike998is there any way to make nautilus launch (for example when opening your home directory) to launch with the --no-desktop option?12:59
jonnythis is so much better12:59
cyphaselol12:59
cyphaseyou installed it i take it12:59
icemanwhere can i find out hard drive space12:59
madsenuga: Uh, that might be it yeah... I think it _is_ firewall related - never used it though.12:59
cyphasetha twas fast..12:59
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cyphasethat was*12:59
HaroldJohnson_bob2, Why do you believe links2 is the best?12:59
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jonnyand, I finished my homework:)12:59
bob2HaroldJohnson_: just works12:59
madsenmike998: I think you can configure nautilus (in the prefs) not to handle the desktop at all...01:00
mike998ah-hah!01:00
mike998gconf01:00
icemanbob2 78% of wine downloaded01:00
jonnythat took a lot less time than installing warty.01:00
cyphaseyea01:00
nadiaiceman, applications --> system tools --> system monitor --> devices01:01
jonnyi dont feel like im in the 70s anymore01:01
stimpiewhat is a good,simple java ide?01:01
madsenmike998: Yeah, they must have removed it from the prefs. (?)01:01
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ugamadsen: I'm rebooting now... I hope it's not just by chance it worked, or that when I upgrade (just like debian) it won't stop working...01:01
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madsenuga: K, good luck! I'm crossing my fingers! :)01:01
mike998madsen: probably like the ability to have custom icons for your launchers01:02
edihey, im new to linux can someone please tell me how to get to the command line01:02
ugamadsen: me too, it's 1am and this will be my last chance today ;)01:02
madsenuga: Heh, it's 1am here too, where are you located?01:02
nadiaedi, applications --> accessories --> terminal.01:02
bob2edi: applications -> system -> terminal01:02
icemanbob2 ok still have myhroot up, and wine seems to have installed ... now ?01:02
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bob2iceman: now run it01:03
madsenbob2: It's not there anymore. ;)01:03
edithanks you01:03
icemanbob2 "type" wine "01:03
ugamadsen: north spain01:03
tonyyarussoedi: You can either go to the Terminal under the Applications list, or press Ctrl-Alt-F(any number).01:03
jonnythis feels a lot like mac OS 901:03
madsenuga: Oh, ok. Denmark here. :)01:03
cyphaselol01:03
jonnyno, im serious01:03
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ugamadsen: btw, something is b0rked and it's scary. It worked without touching anything, just ifup eth001:03
cafuegojonny: Yes, it's nice, isn't it :-)01:03
icemanbob2 see #flood01:03
bob2iceman: yes...01:03
bob2madsen: oh, good point01:04
bob2edi: sorry about that01:04
jonnyim yet to dual boot, though01:04
ugamadsen: what I can't be sure is it won't fail again on following reboots :/01:04
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bob2iceman: yes, drop out of the chroot and "dchroot" back in, so you're running wine as your normal user01:04
madsenuga: Hmm, true... But if you got the list of modules, then you can (hopefully) restore it to a working state if it b0rks again...01:04
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ugamadsen: in one of my debian tests, I found it worked once or twice after I started up using a mdk live CD01:05
ugabut on the next boot it failed again01:05
madsenuga: Lol! That's fscked!01:05
ugayes01:05
icemanbob2 nope .. posted output in #flood01:05
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bob2iceman: cd /home/iceman01:05
madsenuga: It's strange, I've never had that kind of problems with Debian - not plain Debian at least...01:05
P8ntKidbob2, Ok its finished. Im gona reboot and see what i get. Wish me lucj.01:05
P8ntKidluck01:05
ugamadsen: I think debian felt threatened with a mdk install ;)01:05
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madsenuga: Lol! Yeah, that's like my Thinkpad w/ Linux... It always behaves when there's a Mac nearby... It knows it's inferior. :-p01:06
ugamadsen: this laptop has had debian on it for ages too, just I didn't upgrade for long time and the last apt get was 600 packs01:06
madsenuga: Ugh. :/01:06
icemanbob2 it hates me ... #flood post01:06
jonnyhow can I get KDE on breezy?01:06
ugaincluding the gcc4 switch, etc01:06
madsenjonny: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:06
jonnythx01:07
ugamadsen: lol@ mac thing =)01:07
bob2iceman: you still hjaven't done what I said an hour ago01:07
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bob2iceman: get out, 'sudo mkdir -p /var/chroot/home/iceman ; sudo chown iceman /var/chroot/home/iceman/'01:07
cafuegojonny: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' will grab all you need.01:07
madsenWell, does anyone know how to block a driver from taking control of my tablet when I plug it in?01:07
jonnyok01:08
icemanbob2 i got windows overlapping here ...01:08
cafuegobob2: bind mount. he needs proc too, as well as /tmp01:08
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bob2cafuego: yeah, true01:08
cafuegobob2: Otherwise Xauth will go poo very hard01:08
bastardkestrelhi01:08
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sexcopter8000mhi, how can you retrieve your nickserv password on freenode?01:09
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cafuegosexcopter8000m: You can't01:09
naliothsexcopter8000m: visit #freenode and ask politely01:09
icemanbob2 ok that worked .. posted in flood01:09
cafuegosexcopter8000m: They're stored in encrypted form01:09
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sexcopter8000mok cafuego, nalioth, thanks01:10
P8ntKidbob2, Yes! Everything went great. Thanks for the help!01:10
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naliothsexcopter8000m: if you visit #freenode, they will reset it, if you linked a email address to your nick01:10
bob2P8ntKid: np01:11
icemanbob2 i take it wine may have just tried to run ... although i did not point it at a program01:11
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war-totemcan you actually partition with the gparted tool?01:11
naliothwar-totem: yes01:11
war-totemim not seeing how to01:11
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war-totemnalioth: im not seeing any options to create01:11
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naliothwar-totem: it wont work on a mounted partition01:12
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icemannow how to point wine to run diablo II01:12
corincolenalioth, can u please tell me the command to completely end the gui?01:12
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corincoleor anyone01:12
war-totemnalioth: i have to unmount my partition? then when do i create a new one?01:12
madsencorincole: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop01:12
naliothcorincole: you mean like "ctrl-alt-backspace"?01:12
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corincoleno, madsen's one is it01:12
corincole;)01:12
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naliothcorincole: madsen got it for ya01:13
madsencorincole: That'll shut down X - ctrl-alt-backspace will restart it.01:13
corincoleok01:13
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naliothwar-totem: got a livecd?01:13
war-totemnalioth:  no01:13
corincoleor /etc/init.d/gdm start i assume01:13
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GTroywhat's a good access path for a second partition?01:13
icemanbob2 i have diablo II sitting in a DOS partition, now how to point Wine to that directory, which linux see's as a dos folder01:13
war-totemnalioth: is their another tooli should use for partition?01:13
madsencorincole: Well, that'll start it if it's stopped and bitch if it's not... 'restart' will, well, restart it. ;)01:13
bob2iceman: you'll have to find someone else to help you, good luck01:14
bob2iceman: cafuego outlined the steps you have to do, up01:14
corincoleand whats the command line irc software again?01:14
madsencorincole: irssi-text?01:14
corincoleirssi01:14
corincole:)01:14
corincolethanks01:14
corincolebrb lol01:14
madsennp :)01:14
naliothwar-totem: ya got qtparted, gparted, parted, fdisk, cfdisk, and probably some others i'm forgetting01:14
war-totemnalioth: ok ill start on those then01:15
war-totemnalioth: thanks01:15
madsencorincole: Why are you shutting down X and going console? (I'm just curious 'cause everyone else seems to be going more and more gui.)01:15
icemanbob2 cant locate steps up, there lost01:15
bob2iceman: nope, scroll up01:15
madsenwar-totem: I've always used fdisk/cfdisk - they're pretty neat.01:15
icemanbob2 did cant go that high up i guess01:15
bob2iceman: if your irc client is so shit that you can't scroll up, I have no sympathy, sorry01:16
war-totemmadsen: do you have to use both of them?01:16
amitaykbob2: Well, I have tried what you tell me up to three ports (I don't have more) and none of them seem to work.01:16
war-totemmadsen: or just one01:16
icemanbob2 i scrooled up, cant go that far ...01:16
madsenwar-totem: One should suffice. :) cfdisk is probably best if you don't dig command lines and stuff. :)01:16
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bob2iceman: then you need a less useless irc client.  I suggest irssi-text or xchat.  anyway, good luck01:16
war-totemmadsen: :) thanks01:17
bimberiwar-totem: in gparted, if you click on unallocated space the "New" button should become available01:17
icemanbob2 point me to where wine is in chroot directory01:18
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eriscoi am having trouble getting samba working01:19
eriscoi followed the FAQ guide01:19
eriscobut i still cannot view the network01:19
madseniceman: To be frank, I think you're pushing it a little with bob2 now - he's been very helpful and patient.01:19
eriscoum... specifics...01:19
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bob2iceman: I've spent 2.5 hours helping you this morning, I do have to do some actual paid work at some point so I can eat this week.01:20
icemanif i can find wine's location, i can point diablo ii to run from there01:20
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eriscosamba appears to be functioning properly, yet when i go to Places, Network Servers, and click on Windows Network, nothing it viewable01:20
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amitaykbob2: Well, I have tried what you tell me, up to three ports (I don't have more), and none of them seem to work.01:20
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daniel_new ubuntu user: wondering, what is the default root password? I should probably change it, but I didn't see it asked during the install01:21
starscallingdaniel_, its disabled by default01:21
wotnargdaniel_: there is no root, use sudo01:21
starscallinginstead there is this awesome sudo thing :)01:21
eriscowhich isn't that awesome!01:21
warren1i have a thinkpad t40... and the default ubuntu install doesn't seem to do my graphic card justice... like it's full color/resolution, but like i can see the the refresh in screensavers, and when it fades out when i log out it's super chopy and stuff..... any suggestions?01:21
P8ntKidWhat is the thing i need to download in order to do ./configure?01:21
icemanto get this far, get wine installed, and then get let hanging .. make it all seem a waste01:21
bob2daniel_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:21
bob2P8ntKid: way too vague01:21
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eriscocan anyone assist my samba problem?01:21
naliothubotu: tell daniel_ about root01:21
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naliothP8ntKid: build-essential01:22
P8ntKidbob2, Well. Since i just reinstalled ubuntu. It wont let me do ./configure in order to compile the source of something.01:22
bob2P8ntKid: and the source is...?01:22
P8ntKidnalioth, Thanks. Thats waht i wanted.01:22
corincolehmmm...  i forgot which server to conenct to lol01:22
eriscoyes it is build-essential01:22
P8ntKidbob2, Nvm. I got it.01:22
eriscoanyone going to third that motion?01:22
iceman/var/ and from there where is wine01:22
corincolebtw, is there any command-line software for browsing the www?01:22
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bimbericorincole: lynx01:23
madsencorincole: lynx, links, links201:23
corincoleok01:23
corincole:D01:23
DruQksJeebus H. Christington!01:23
ugamadsen: propagandhi: anyway, thanks for the help a lot. So far it's working, even if I'm sure something smells nasty in the kernel. Hopefully following kernel upgrades will polish issues01:23
amitaykbob2: Well, I have tried what you tell me, up to three ports (I don't have more), and none of them seem to work.01:23
Kassahbrb... gonna try out my edits01:23
uganow off for bed...01:23
ugagoodnight01:23
madsencorincole: elinks has tabs afaicr. :)01:23
corincoleand, u can guess what else i want.....01:23
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jonnySO i would like to install a game, I've extracted the folder, but now what?01:23
corincolehow to close gui again lol01:23
corincole(i will write it down this time :P)01:23
eriscojonny, what kind of game?01:23
eriscoit isn't windows is it?01:24
madsencorincole: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop01:24
daniel_thanks all :)01:24
DruQksAllright, can someone tell me this: I've installed ubuntu, everything looks fine except for the fact that I get a black screen when the graphical interface should be loading up. It finished loading up all the checks. . . then bam, just a black screen.01:24
naliothcorincole: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop01:24
madsencorincole: mail -> pine or mutt01:24
bimbericorincole: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop01:24
DruQksThe question is, how to fix? ;)01:24
starscallinghehe01:24
corincolemadsen, u read my mind01:24
corincole:P01:24
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corincolemsn?01:24
starscallingand the winner is madsen :P01:24
corincolelol01:24
P8ntKidbob2, Im trying to install fluxbox and when i do ./configure I get configure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers.01:24
kjdisI've been trying to config a kernel, but video goes black right after it starts booting the kernel, and then I can still hear the HD going a bit longer and then it stops, log shows no errors, anyone got suggestions?01:24
jonnyfrom the internet...   .tar.gz01:24
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madsencorincole: centericq01:24
eriscoP8ntKid, apt-cache search01:25
corincolereally? for msn?01:25
corincole:P01:25
madsencorincole: RSS feeds -> snownews01:25
madsencorincole: Yup01:25
eriscoP8ntKid, look for the -dev required to support those01:25
bob2P8ntKid: fluxbox is in ubuntu already01:25
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jonnyanyone?01:25
Kassahbuya!01:25
corincolewhat about system monitor?01:25
corincole:P01:25
iceman(mychroot)iceman@icebox64:~$ wine /dos/diablo ii/diablo ii.exe01:25
icemanwine: cannot find '/dos/diablo'01:25
iceman(mychroot)iceman@icebox64:~$01:25
eriscojonny, what kind of game is this?01:25
Kassahfirst try... dual monitor works great!01:25
madsencorincole: You could also look into using bitlbee instead, then you can use your favourite irc-client (irssi of course) for msn - and in an irc-like manner. :)01:25
eriscojonny, it does not sound linux based01:26
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jonnywhat do you mean?01:26
P8ntKidbob2, Yes. But not the newest version. I think ubuntu has 0.9.13 Im trying to get 0.9.1401:26
eriscojonny, is this a windows game?01:26
jonnylinux game01:26
naliothubotu: tell P8ntKid about xincludes01:26
corincolebitlbee?01:26
eriscojonny, well you can use apt-get for those01:26
corincolewait, brb in command01:26
eriscojonny, which game is this?01:26
corincolewhat is the server?01:26
corincole:P01:26
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wotnargI never quite got load advarage, whats the optimum value for it?01:26
bob2P8ntKid: they've added critical new features in a minor minor revision?01:26
jonnyit's called: snowball01:26
blackvdsay I'm having a weird but probably easy problem to fix. When I try and su in terminal and give it my password it says  'Authentication failure'?01:26
bob2P8ntKid: anyway, 'sudo apt-get build-dep fluxbox'01:26
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bob2wotnarg: 0 = system has nothing to do01:27
amitaykbob2: I've changed to protocol to "Auto" and now everything is working fine. Thanks a lot! Good night (At least in my time zone the hour is late).01:27
madsencorincole: Oh, I can't remember - but I think bitlbee.org might now... Or bitlbee.sf.net (can't remember the url).01:27
bob2blackvd: duh, wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:27
danlwhats teh default filesystem selected when installing ubuntu?01:27
amitaykbob2: Chag Shamach01:27
wotnargbob2: whats the topend value, 1, 10, 100?01:27
ryanpghi... I see "dapper exists now" where do I find the repository?01:27
danli need to mount a drive it formatted01:27
bimberiiceman, try quoting it - wine "/dos/diablo ii/diablo ii.exe"01:27
corincolemadsen, i'll check when ive left gui, what irc server are we on?01:27
eriscojonny, hmm snowball isn't supported by apt01:27
bob2amitayk: np01:27
HrdwrBoBryanpg: you don't01:27
eriscojonny, so you are looking to compile this game?01:27
bob2wotnarg: thousands if the machine is screwed01:27
madsencorincole: irc.freenode.net01:27
corincoleok01:27
bob2ryanpg: if you have to ask, you shouldn't be using it at all01:27
naliothP8ntKid: check your private messages01:27
eriscojonny, compiling is very complicated...01:27
wotnargbob2: So having a single or double digit load adv isnt bad?01:28
natexdanl,  ext301:28
jonnyum...i dunno I just want to install it01:28
danlthats what i thought...01:28
eriscojonny, to install it you need to configure it, compile it, then install it01:28
eriscojonny, which can be a hard and dangerous thing01:28
madsencorincole: Basically, just 'irssi -c irc.freenode.net' and then (in irssi) /join #ubuntu :)01:28
bob2wotnarg: yes, it is bad01:28
P8ntKidnalioth, I did.01:28
danlit wouldn't mount... odd... all i did was accidently initrd.splash01:28
icemanbimberi (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:~$ wine "/dos/diablo II/diablo ii.exe"01:28
icemanwine: cannot find '/dos/diablo II/diablo ii.exe'01:28
iceman(mychroot)iceman@icebox64:~$01:28
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eriscojonny, if you do not know what you are doing01:28
ryanpgI've been looking around ftp.ubunut.com thinking it would be uner dists/daper or testing... but nope01:28
jonnywell, actually what is a game that is supported by  apt01:28
eriscojonny, i suggest you find a game supported with apt01:29
naliothP8ntKid: then you should be set on x dev libs01:29
jonnywhere?01:29
eriscojonny, if it is supported by apt, why don't you apt-get install <package>01:29
bimberiiceman: where is this "dos" directory?  if it's in the current directory then leave out the first /01:29
Puffballwhen I type 'sudo su root' and enter the password, it switches to root, but when I try to execute anything from the terminal, it shows "Permission Denied"; any suggestions?01:29
jonnybut haw do I know if it is supported by apt01:29
jonnyhow*01:29
P8ntKidnalioth, Thanks. Works.01:30
bob2Puffball: that's a silly thing to do, anyway01:30
eriscojonny, apt-cache search01:30
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eriscojonny, apt-cache search <keyword>01:30
!lilo:*! Hi all. A new special interest channel is being set up for folk involved with physical therapy to compare notes, and for people who need information on physical-therapy-related topics. If this is you, please stop by ##physicaltherapy .... thanks!01:30
bob2Puffball: and you need to show us a full paste of the outputi in #flood01:30
eriscojonny, i already searched01:30
icemanbimberi dos in in the root directory ...01:30
madsenerisco: Try 'apt-cache search game' and you'll get a pretty long list....01:30
Puffballokay.01:30
jonnyin the terminal01:30
jonny?01:30
icemana folder ... actualy a mounted dos partition01:30
eriscojonny, try apt-cache search game |less01:30
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jonnyok01:30
corincolehey01:30
madsenjonny: There or search for 'game' in synaptic.01:30
eriscojonny, look for a supported game01:30
corincole:)01:30
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jonnyok01:31
bimberiiceman: then you'll need to check that those directories and filenames are correct (including capitalisation)01:31
thrushjonny: compiling stuff is not a big deal  sudo apt-get install build-essential, unpack it and look at the readme01:31
xxtremehello, does anyone know how to disable tapping on a notebook with breezy01:31
eriscojonny, wesnoth is one of my favourites01:31
eriscothrush, no it is01:31
corincoleoh well, having come back, im going to go to bed, im tired01:31
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madsenjonny: Yeah, wesnoth is definitely worth a try...01:31
corincolehow do I exit irssi?01:31
corincole:P01:31
eriscothrush, you can break a lot of things with compiling01:31
dooglussnowball is a python game.  it doesn't need building.01:31
madsencorincole: /quit01:31
corincolek01:31
corincolethanks01:31
thrushcorincole: '/quit'01:31
eriscothrush, if it is a more majour thing01:31
corincoleim sure i'll be back soon to ask for more hel01:31
jonnyin synaptic, how do you search?01:32
naliothcorincole: /quit01:32
corincolemadsen, u always beat them to it, dont you01:32
corincolelol01:32
corincolenalioth, too late01:32
eriscojonny, did you add all the repositories?01:32
cyphasejonny, you click the big button that says search01:32
cyphase:)01:32
madsencorincole: Well, in some cases I do. :)01:32
naliothjonny: find the button marked 'search'01:32
corincolebye all01:32
jonnyok01:32
naliothcorincole: lag is not nice, you should be01:32
madsencorincole: Bye! :)01:32
eriscois games and entertainment on default?01:32
madsennalioth: lol!01:32
eriscoor is that another repository?01:32
jonnysorry i did not see that01:32
naliotherisco: there are games in all repos, i'm sure01:32
starscallingso how goes monday nalioth ?01:33
erisconalioth, most likely, there are three sections to it01:33
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corincolesorry nalioth, just kidding01:33
corincole:'(01:33
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samuel_openoffice does not detect01:33
naliothstarscalling: monday? what's that?01:33
samuel_my printer...why is htat?01:33
icemanbimberi dang how to get thiw to see that dos directory ...01:33
xxtremenalioth_ do you know how to disable tapping on a notebook, its too sensitive and annoying01:33
starscallingLOL01:33
samuel_it only prints to generic and it wont let me change it01:34
ryanpgsorry for repeating myself but... where does the dapper repository exist?01:34
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erisconalioth, you do not want to know what Monday is.01:34
naliothxxtreme: i'm not much on adjusting input devices01:34
icemanor a command to run wine from dchroot01:34
Puffballbob2: I'm try to execute a file with ./, but using sudo ./..., it doesn't recognize the command01:34
bob2ryanpg: don't use it01:34
bob2Puffball: yes, that's clear01:34
bob2Puffball: the file you're trying to run is not executable01:34
madsenSo... Two guys, /quit and /exit, were sitting in a row boat... /exit falls in the water and drows (oh, no!), who's left?01:34
bob2Puffball: chmod a+x ./whatever01:34
bimberiiceman: can you navigate to it? - cd /dos01:34
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Puffballbob2: Oh @_@01:34
ncpany good ftp clients? ncftp and gftp is ok, but have the use for fxp and only found iglooftp that works, but its not free, so what other clients could people recommend?01:34
eriscoalright back to samba... why can't i see my network? everything appears configured properly01:34
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bob2haha fxp.01:34
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daniel_Mount Question: When trying to mount an existing ntfs filesystem (read-only, obviously) the only way I can traverse the directories is to use "sudo" - any way around?01:35
Puffballbob2: thanks01:35
samuel_anyone01:35
samuel_?01:35
naliothncp: search synaptic for "ftp" use all you find, keep what you like01:35
linux-noobHey, IS there a Boot flopy that will have driver for a USB cdrom so i can instll ubuntu on my laptop01:35
thrushdaniel mounting windows partition?01:35
bob2daniel_: umask=000 in the options field01:35
naliothdaniel_: adjust your permissions in your fstab01:35
bob2linux-noob: not simply01:35
eriscoftp? is someone looking for a ftp client?01:36
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ncperisco, yes i am01:36
starscallingncp i happen to kinda like gftp :)01:36
erisconcp, use mc01:36
starscallingbut there are many good ones in there :P01:36
madsenncp: lftp is nice - but command line.01:36
erisconcp, sudo apt-get install mc01:36
ncpwell both mc and gftp are fine clients01:36
erisconcp, it is the best ftp client i have ever seen01:36
icemanok, how to move a file from a dos partiton to the dchroot area, where i can point wine to see  it01:36
erisconcp, gftp was absolute crap for me01:36
samuel_anyon...this is important01:36
linux-noobbob2: well does ubuntu have a networke install ?01:37
thrushmidnight commander is an ftp client too?01:37
erisconcp, couldn't do a load worth of ***01:37
starscallingmc huh, ill have to try that one :)01:37
eriscoyes it is thrush01:37
bob2linux-noob: that runs from a CD, yes.01:37
jonnydoes macromedia flash come in synaptic?01:37
eriscoI AM TELLING YOU ALL! USE MC!01:37
eriscoIt is the bset ftp client01:37
eriscobest*01:37
Seveaserisco, stop shouting01:37
bob2jonny: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:37
dooglusmc?  ugh.01:37
jonnythank you01:37
eriscodooglus, aw comon, what is wrong with it?01:37
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starscallingdarn bob2 is fast01:37
ncpbut just wanted to se if there was another program that could do the job better, but by the sound of it, i'm allready useing the best01:37
doogluserisco: it's like linux-for-dummies.01:37
icemanStupid restricted root access01:38
eriscodooglus, simple is best01:38
jonnyis there a way to copy stuff in xchat?01:38
doogluserisco: isn't it better to learn the command line than to rely on mc?01:38
eriscodooglus, why strain yourself?01:38
linux-noobbob2: is there any way to instal with a cd ?01:38
naliotherisco: use all that has been suggested, keep what YOU like01:38
eriscodooglus, well mc has a bit of command line01:38
bob2iceman: no, your problem has nothing to do with that01:38
cyphasejonny, it'll copy what you select01:38
eriscowhoa whoa, i just just telling that mc was the best ftp client01:38
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erisconever said you HAD to use it01:38
daniel_thanks again everyone01:39
linux-noobbob2: is there any way to instal with a cd ?01:39
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naliothlinux-noob: install what?01:39
icemanbob2 just directing wine to a floder on the regular filesystem... floder called dos, which is the actual dos partition on a harddrive01:39
bob2linux-noob: your question sucks01:39
linux-noobbob2: Ubuntu01:39
eriscobob2, lol01:39
bob2linux-noob: presumably you mean "Is it possible to install from a CD in a USB CD-ROM drive?"01:39
bob2linux-noob: if so, say that01:39
naliothlinux-noob: install Cds are what ubuntu come on01:40
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bob2instead of useless silly vague things like "is there any way to instal with a cd ?"01:40
bob2no, the 500 000 000 cds that got sent out are not installable01:40
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bob2you can only mount them on your mantlepiece01:40
bob2linux-noob: if your bios can boot the cd rom drive, it will probably work01:40
eriscooh and btw linux-noob, never, ever say "it doesn't work". I got flamed for that once =p01:40
icemanroflmao01:40
bob2linux-noob: if not, go to your LUG and ask for help01:40
perlheadIs there a way to find out exactly which patches have been applied to the 2.6.12 kernel in breezy?01:40
bob2perlhead: by reading the changelog and looking at the .diff.gz.01:41
perlheadI want to get swsusp2 working (swsusp does not work)01:41
Seveasperlhead, apt-get install linux-patch-ubuntu01:41
bob2perlhead: if it doesn't work, file a bug01:41
bob2perlhead: it should work for everyone01:41
eriscocan i file a bug for samba? it aint working for me =(01:41
icemanJust pointing "wine" to the location of Diablo II.exe and i would be done i think01:41
DruQksI'm trying to edit my xorg.conf file with vim but it says it's read only. What do I do?01:41
perlheadSeveas: I got the linux-patch-ubuntu01:41
bob2if your problem is "it doesn't work with the nvidia or ati binary modules loaded", then you lose01:41
bob2DruQks: sudo vim /etc/whatever01:41
perlheadSeveas: it has a huge patch... I need to know which individual patches have been applied01:42
linux-noobbob2: ok here is my prob, I have a fujitsu p 1110 and it has no cd rom, but i baught a USB cdrom  but is still does not recognize the usb when i boot my laptop01:42
bob2linux-noob: right, which is a bios issue01:42
raz0rsharpany GTK developers here? the gtk channel is dead (specifically C and linux for GTK) ... please send me a message if you don't mnd01:42
raz0rsharpmind01:42
bob2perlhead: /usr/share/doc/linux-patch-ubuntu01:42
eriscobios, what is cool word01:42
eriscojust like "ping"01:42
ryanpgok... last try before I go off to google my way to an answer... does the dapper repository need time to spread through mirrors or am I looking in the entirely wrong places?01:42
eriscolike seriously who would think of ping01:42
bob2raz0rsharp: please don't do that, it's way mroe annoying than just asking a question01:43
eriscoeh, don't mind me01:43
bob2ryanpg: seriously, don't do it01:43
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linux-noobbob2: i checked bios and it has he usb on, it recognize my usb flopy drive but not my usb cd drive01:43
bob2ryanpg: if you don't even know how to edit your sources.list, using the development version 1 hour after it opens is a terrible idea01:43
naliothryanpg: just ask your question01:43
madsenDoes anyone know how to restore the original usplash? Let's just say someone accidentally installed xubuntu-artwork-usplash and saw that it was fugly and wants the original back... (I _have_ uninstalled and purged the xubuntu-artwork-usplash package.)01:43
DruQksbob2, How do I save after editing? ;)01:43
DruQks<----- doesn't know shit about vim :D01:43
perlheadbob2: I know, but it doesn tell me which patches have been applied. It just one huge patch01:43
bob2DruQks: :wq01:43
raz0rsharpbob2 sorry, how do i get user input (basically like read(0, buffer, len)) to be tied to a text view?01:43
ryanpgnalioth, ok... where's the "dapper repository"?01:43
icemanwell 76% of the dang x86 cd downloaded, my be faster that getting this in 64 bit01:43
naliothryanpg: what is that?01:44
raz0rsharpthis is for GTK01:44
madsenDruQks: :w to save :q to quit01:44
DruQksThanks :D01:44
eriscooh well, time to pull out the good old floppy01:44
bob2raz0rsharp: I'd think you'd select() on the fd and update it yourself01:44
ryanpgnalioth, heh it's where unstable development debs make their first appearences ;)01:44
eriscoforget samba01:44
madsenDruQks: np. I <3 vim. :)01:44
bimberiDruQks: some people find nano a bit easier to use01:44
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linux-noobbob2: i checked bios and it has he usb on, it recognize my usb flopy drive but not my usb cd drive01:44
bob2ryanpg: why do you think you should be using dapper?01:44
madsenerisco: That's what he said... No wait.. :-/01:44
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bob2linux-noob: that's great, but not an ubuntu issue01:44
naliothryanpg: i wouldnt advise dapper for a few months01:45
eriscomadsen, i kinda lost you there :s01:45
raz0rsharpbob2 but if you type in the text view, stdin doesn't get the data ...01:45
bob2seriously, it will be utterly smashed for the next couple of weeks01:45
bob2raz0rsharp: you want to read() fro ma text box?01:45
ryanpgbob2, because building xorg 7.0RC1 from source is a monster pain, I'd rather someone else do it01:45
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linux-noobbob2: well is there a letworke in stall like debain has ?01:45
bob2raz0rsharp: I really doubt they have fd's01:45
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bob2linux-noob: no01:45
raz0rsharpi know, that's my question01:45
madsenerisco: Nothing, just your "time to pull out the good old floppy". :-p01:45
linux-noobbob2: ok well thanks01:45
raz0rsharphow do i tie it to an fd? if that's not possible, do you know of a way to read input in terminal-like fashion (i.e. print out a prompt and read in user input one line at a time)01:46
natexlinux-noob, can you change from where you lappy boots from?01:46
eriscomadsen, well i would be lieing if i said it was new, or even in the near past01:46
natexlinux-noob, in the bios?01:46
madsenraz0rsharp: Can't dialog/zenity do that...01:46
bimberilinux-noob: there are some other install methods described at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation01:46
raz0rsharpmadsen, not sure what you're talking about ...01:46
linux-noobnatex: umm what do you mean01:46
madsenerisco: Huh? Now you lost me... lol!01:46
madsenraz0rsharp: And I'm not sure what you're trying to do...01:47
eriscomadsen, i mean i need to spend like 5min formatting a 1mb drive01:47
madsenraz0rsharp: :)01:47
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eriscomadsen, it is crazy01:47
icemanall the work to get the bootstrap setup , wine downloaded, boy then no way to launch the program.... maybe x86 install might be a little faster ..01:47
natexlinux-noob, when your computer boots up, can you change your bios settings?01:47
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madsenerisco: Hehe, I know... I was making a pad sexual pun on your line... ;p01:47
bob2iceman: stop it01:47
linux-noobnatex : in bios it is set to boot all USB01:47
raz0rsharpmadsen, i'm essentially trying to write a GTK gui application where one of the frames (a text view) is basically a terminal...has a prompt, reads input, does something based on that input01:47
bob2iceman: one more threat, and you will be gone from the channel for being so bloody annoying01:47
eriscomadsen, key word: bad01:47
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eriscowhoa error in the disk format...01:48
daniel_Music: music player complains it has no mp3 codec - where can I get one?01:48
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bob2daniel_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:48
bob2daniel_: (install gstreamer0.8-mad)01:48
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madsenraz0rsharp: Oh, sorry... I thought it was the other way around - that you wanted a nice gtk input box displayed from a shell script. Sorry.01:48
eriscooh no my whole 1mb drive is ruined! and i am out of quaters to buy a new one01:48
linux-noobnatex : in bios it is set to boot all USB01:48
madsenerisco: Yeah, I know. :(01:48
naliothubotu: tell daniel_ about mp301:48
raz0rsharpmadsen, any ideas?01:48
barberhow can I tell if my ltsp workstaton is using the X settings I have for it in my lts.conf? can I get a command prompt on the local machine?01:49
bob2perlhead: bzcat /usr/src/linux-patches/i386/2.6.12/debian/patch-2.6.12-9.23.bz2 | less01:49
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madsenraz0rsharp: Sorry, not a clue... It's been a long while since I did any gtk programming.01:49
icemanbob2, just seems to have got this far, and then die, and get nowhere. I just want the dang thing to work, weather that be in a new install, or the present. it this 64 install is that big a pain in the but, maybe a install where there is less configuration for a newbie, "me" might be a better idea...01:49
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madsenraz0rsharp: What programming language do you write it in?01:49
bob2iceman: that's great, but this threat stuff is both stupid and of no fucking use01:50
bob2iceman: if you think reinstalling is simpler, do so01:50
eriscoError: given UDI is not a mountable volume01:50
raz0rsharpmadsen, bob2, thanks for your help... btw (and you know this), ubuntu rocks! long redhat/fedora core user now completely converted01:50
eriscoseriously...01:50
eriscoit formatted correctly...01:50
raz0rsharpmadsen, C01:50
natexlinux-noob, ok perhaps you should try another CD to make sure it is not the cd itself01:50
perrehi, how can i uninstall open office 1.1 ??? i want to install oo2.001:50
icemanbob2, i'd settle for a web page on telling wine where to go...01:50
natexlinux-noob, try a windows or other linux install cd01:50
bob2raz0rsharp: you were asking in #gtk+ on irc.gnome.irg?01:51
linux-noobwell i put the ubunto cd im my wendows comp and it butted right up01:51
madsenraz0rsharp: Hmm, there must be a sh*tload of C channels around, aren't there?01:51
eriscolinux-noob, you do have this as a image cd with the .iso image burned onto it?01:51
eriscolinux-noob, i made the mistake of making a data cd =p01:51
perrehi, how can i uninstall open office 1.1 ??? i want to install oo2.001:51
thrushlinux-noob: if you look at the cd in another comp its not showing like ubunt.iso is it ;)01:52
raz0rsharpnah, i will, thx for the link bob201:52
perlheadbob2: I *know*. but that just dumps a whole lot of patches at me. What I want to know is something along the lines of "the kernel includes the frob patch v2.3, the moby patch v4.5, and the whizzie driver patch vx.y"01:52
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linux-noobnatex: yes01:52
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zblachhowdy01:52
raz0rsharpthanks all!01:52
raz0rsharpsorry to bother! good luck in your endeavors01:52
zblachi have a few Fat32 partitions i want total access to. how can i do this again?01:52
DruQksok so, how do I get back to the "desktop" after doing the ctrl|Alt|F2 thing :D01:52
zblachDruQks, Ctrl+Alt+F701:52
zblachor F801:52
DruQksAhh.01:52
zblachcan't remember01:52
eriscothis isn't cool... something is wrong with my floppy drive :s01:52
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erisconot the floppy01:53
zblacherisco, same01:53
eriscoat least i asume01:53
perrehi, how can i uninstall open office 1.1 ??? i want to install oo2.001:53
perlheadbob2: I want to patch swsusp2 into the kernel, but it seems to be incompatible.01:53
bytefoopeople still have floppy drives? :|01:53
bob2perlhead: yes01:53
perlheadbob2: with the applied patches01:53
eriscobelieve it or not, yes01:53
linux-noobnatex: IS there a flopy that can boot up a boot mode like it would check all of th usb ports ?01:53
bob2perlhead: surgery that major will require you to either use a kernel.org kernel, or become a kernel hacker and fix it to work on ubuntu kernels01:53
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eriscoi could format my floppy... but i cannot mount01:53
eriscoError: given UDI is not a mountable volume01:54
eriscowhat is this error?01:54
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eazel7hi ppl01:54
eriscogoogling now01:54
perlheadbob2: if I had a list of the patches that are included in the kernel, I could do something between the two extremes01:54
madsenerisco: the annoying kind? :-p01:54
eazel7where can I find latest mono packages for breezy?01:54
nokehow do i see what version of glibc i have ?01:54
bob2eazel7: in breezy.01:54
perlheadbob2: only it seems that such a list does not exist01:55
bob2noke: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n101:55
bob2noke: why?01:55
madsennoke: dpkg -l | grep glibc01:55
bob2perlhead: I'm sure it does, in the linux-source packages01:55
eazel7bob2, not the latest ones01:55
noketo install sicstus01:55
natexlinux-noob, what brand/make of laptop?01:55
bob2eazel7: the latest ones for breezy are there01:55
perrehi, how can i uninstall open office 1.1 ??? i want to install oo2.0 kan anybody help me??? please01:55
eriscomadsen: lol01:55
eazel7how will be called the next released?01:55
bob2eazel7: dapper drake01:55
eriscomadsen: is there a kind that is not annoying?01:56
eazel7bob2, when will it be open for development?01:56
doogluswhat's the recommended way to install dapper in a chroot?01:56
madsenerisco: Sorry about all the bad jokes - I'm too tired to even try doing anything constructive... :-/01:56
bob2eazel7: an hour ago01:56
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bob2dooglus: debootstrap01:56
eazel7bob2, didn't know thanks01:56
bob2dooglus: (possibly doing breezy, then dist-upgrade)01:56
linux-noobnatex: Fujitsu P111001:56
dooglusbob2: I tried debootstrap.  there's no dapper script yet01:56
bob2dooglus: as above01:56
madsenerisco: Yeah, those that say "Error: are you sure you're running as root?".01:56
GTroyuhmm module /var/log/syslog not found what do I do?01:56
dooglusbob2: ok.  that's what I was doing next.  thanks :)01:56
eriscookay heads up for 5.10 users... nautilus has a known glitch with mounting floppy drives01:56
bob2GTroy: it's a file, not a module01:57
nokei need at glibc2.3, how do i get it ?01:57
bob2noke: no,  you don't01:57
bob2noke: whatever you're doing is wrong01:57
nokewhy ?01:57
GTroymodprobe /var/log/syslog doesn't work01:57
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bob2GTroy: duh01:57
WinZHey friends! Help me please: how to look what is ppp0 connection speed in console?01:57
madsenerisco: Seriously though, who (but you) uses floppies at this day and age?01:57
bob2GTroy: 'modprobe your_mum' won't work, either01:57
bob2WinZ: pppstatus01:57
eriscomadsen: sure i will take that one.... still better if it just didn't complain01:57
GTroyso don't worry about that step?01:58
bob2GTroy: what are you trying to do?01:58
madsenerisco: Indeed. :)01:58
DjKriticalDoes anyone know of a good program for resizing jpgs & gifs?.. Not one by one, but in batches?01:58
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eriscomadsen: i have no clue01:58
bob2DjKritical: "convert" from imagemagick01:58
madsenDjKritical: imagemagick01:58
GTroyinstall netgear wg111 usb wifi adapter01:58
dooglusDjKritical: look at the 'imagemagick' package01:58
bob2noke: you need to find binaries suitable for your OS01:58
zblachwhat fstab params do i need for +755 status on partitions?01:58
DjKritical3 recommendations... must be good! thanks guys01:58
linux-noobnatex: Fujitsu P111001:58
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nokei need to install sicstus01:58
bob2zblach: not partitions, windows filesystems01:58
madsenDjKritical: It's Grrreat! ;)01:59
zblachbob2, Fat3201:59
bob2zblach: 022 or so01:59
BrutusUnixI have ubuntu install on my iMac but can't get it to run level 301:59
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nokeand i have it for dl for glibc2.1 2.2 and 2.301:59
madsenDjKritical: It's command-line though... Just so you know...01:59
eriscoit is labelled as (Bugzilla Bug # 17562)01:59
dooglusDjKritical: it's magick!01:59
DjKriticalcommand line =(01:59
zblachso, ro,users,umask=022?01:59
dooglusBrutusUnix: run level 3 is the same as run level 201:59
zblach**rw,users,umask=02201:59
madsenDjKritical: lol, don't be scared, it's the best! And it's not hard to use...01:59
aduryee_I'm having a problem with my Logitech Wingman controllers.  jscalibrator isn't reading the D-pad right, and ZSNES won't read the D-pad at all (everything esle works)01:59
bob2noke: your question is crap for the following reasons: you didn't say what sicstus was, or give a url.  you didn't tell us what version of ubuntu you are using.  you didn't tell us what specific version you were trying to install.01:59
eriscogoogle the mount floppy error and you will find something01:59
WinZbob2, thanks!01:59
aduryee_Does anyone know how to get the D-pad working?02:00
BrutusUnixok....but I want command line on boot02:00
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bob2noke: if you get the 2.1 version it should work02:00
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eriscohope that helps someone02:00
SeveasBrutusUnix, then remove gdm from runlevel 202:00
aduryee_(I'm running Breezy, if that helps)02:00
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nokeand how do i get it ?02:00
fordHi02:00
balzaccould someone point me to some information on how to clean up a dependency issue? I installed some things manually that were too new and they broke dependencies.02:00
nokei'm using 5.1002:00
BrutusUnixid:2:initdefault will give me command line? in the inittab?02:00
fordthe ubuntu is debian-based?02:00
madsenDjKritical: It's as simple as 'convert -scale 300x400 input_image.jpg output_image.jpg'02:00
DjKriticalmadsen: I'll give it a go... only because it got 3 good reviews from this channel!02:00
bob2ford: yes02:00
nokesicstus is for prolog programing02:00
bob2ford: but no the same as Debian02:00
bob2noke: yes, I know, I googled it02:00
DjKriticalmadsen: what about doing a whole directory?02:01
eazel7thanks bob2 for your help02:01
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bimberiford: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/02:01
dooglusBrutusUnix: id:2:... will give you runlevel 2 on boot.  whether that gives you command line or not depends on whether you remove gdm from runlevel 2.02:01
fordbob2, bimberi thx02:01
nokethen how do i get the glibc2.1 ?02:01
bimberiford: yw :)02:01
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bob2noke: stop it02:01
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bob2noke: you're being annoying and not giving anyone any useful information02:01
bob2noke: now, paste the error you got to #flood02:01
aduryee_If it helps at all, I tried two different controllers (similar models; one is wireless) and both have the same issue.02:01
test34controller-less modem means winmodem right ?02:02
BrutusUnixok go it thanks02:02
BrutusUnixexit02:02
noke..02:02
madsenDjKritical: Hmm, that's a little harder, but you can write a simple script for that... Like:  for i in ./*; do convert -scale 500x300 $i $i; done    That'll scale every image in the current dir to 500x300 (with relative sizes).02:02
Seveastest34, usually02:02
bob2test34: yes02:02
bob2noke: which part of that was confusing?02:02
DjKriticalmadsen: tricky!02:02
eriscois anyone having that mount floppy error? i found the perfect solution around it... works great02:03
test34its intel 526EP chipset02:03
test34536..02:03
eriscomost likely not... i just want to help =p02:03
HrdwrBoBerisco: yeah, don't use floppies, ever02:03
madsenDjKritical: Yeah, but smart thing is that it can easilly be integrated into, say, nautilus - so you can just mark the images you want resized and then right-click and select 'resize'. ;)02:03
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eriscookay that is defeating the point02:03
eriscothere is seriously a mounting floppy glitch in nautilus02:03
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DjKriticalmadsen: yeah.. or I could make a php script02:04
eriscois that not something big? i mean some people must still use floppies02:04
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HrdwrBoBerisco: file a bug02:04
eriscobug was already filed02:04
madsenDjKritical: You could, but it'd be easier making a bash-script I think. :)02:04
HrdwrBoBerisco: tbh, I don't know anyone who uses floppies at all02:04
aduryee_Hm, anyone know what's going on when a joypad's D-pads aren't read properly?02:04
eriscoi posted the bug number earlier02:04
HrdwrBoBerisco: in an age of $10 USB storage02:04
eriscowell now you do know someone =)02:04
madsenDjKritical: But sure, you could install php5-cli and php5-gd and use that to scale it too...02:05
HrdwrBoBusing floppies is an exercise in 'how quickly do you want to lose your data'02:05
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aduryee_It's nothing critical, but still, I'd rather get these joypads working ASAP02:05
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eriscookay you can shut-up know =p02:05
Seveaserisco, so can you...02:05
warrengi just merged apache2, but there's no apxs... how do i get that?02:05
Seveas(read that as: please adhere to the coc)02:05
eriscoSeveas, sorry02:05
zblachumask=022, what does this allow for a partition?02:05
HrdwrBoBerisco: floppies are an obsoleted technology02:05
madsenOk, I installed xubuntu-artwork-usplash (don't ask!) and I regret it - how do I get back the original Ubuntu usplash? (I've already removed the xubuntu-artwork-usplash package but to no avail.)02:05
eriscoHrdwrBoB, yes i know02:06
hyperactivecrondmadsen: it's probably a meta-package02:06
HrdwrBoBerisco: and as such should be avoided (though this doesn't make your bug any less valid)02:06
madsenzblach: It's the same as chmod 75502:06
gimmulfShouldnt LimeWire be in the package manager?02:06
hyperactivecrondgimmulf: eek. it needs java02:06
kevogodYou can buy floppies in a regular store. They are NOT obsolete.02:06
Seveasmadsen, afaik, sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`02:06
eriscoHrdwrBoB, by all means what you say is true02:06
dooglusDjKritical: if you don't want to overwrite the existing images, something like this will work:02:06
dooglusfor i in *.jpg; do convert photo.jpg -scale 400x300 $(echo $i | sed 's/.jpg$/_small.jpg/'); done02:06
madsenhyperactivecrond: Oh! You might have a point there. ;)02:06
zblachmadsen, what to do to test settings?02:06
hyperactivecrondgimmulf: use apollon or gtk-gnutella02:06
eriscoHrdwrBoB, i am used to people who used tons of floppies...02:06
hyperactivecrondapollon != in02:06
gimmulfhyperactivecrond:  they aint that good :)02:06
hyperactivecrondbut still good02:06
eriscoHrdwrBoB, which i am surrounded by02:06
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hyperactivecrondapollon is good imho02:07
madsenzblach: Sorry, I don't know that...02:07
DjKriticaldooglus, just in console?... or is that an sh script?02:07
dooglusoops!    for i in *.jpg; do convert "$i.jpg" -scale 400x300 "$(echo $i | sed 's/.jpg$/_small.jpg/')"; done02:07
eriscoHrdwrBoB, so i thought maybe this might be a big problem02:07
eriscoHrdwrBoB, maybe it isn't =p02:07
dooglusDjKritical: it's a shell script, but that's what consoles run, so it's up to you.02:07
dooglusDjKritical: paste it into a file if you like - or just at the command line02:07
coolaj86anyone experienced with pvmove for dumping a few partially used physical volumes onto one or two fully used volumes?02:08
coolaj86(not yet fully used volumes)02:08
icemanNow, back... how to Point wine to the location in which i put Diablo II02:08
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Paradoxxi have an external hard drive, and for some reason my box dosen't read it. It use to automatically open it like any other drive, but after i formatted it, it dosen't pick it up automatically anymore...how can i fix this?02:08
hyperactivecrondiceman: eek don't use wine use cedega for games02:08
hyperactivecrondParadoxx: look for it in dmesg02:08
hyperactivecrondand see if it shows up02:09
madsenBrb!02:09
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dooglusDjKritical: that line still isn't quite right!  I've got an extra .jpg inside the first set of quotes :(02:09
icemanaggggggggggggggggggg.          I know wine is in there ... now pointing it to the location of Diablo II02:10
WinZhm.. pppstats doesn't show speed02:10
WinZwinz@home~$ pppstats ppp002:10
WinZ      IN   PACK VJCOMP  VJUNC  VJERR  |      OUT   PACK VJCOMP  VJUNC NON-VJ02:10
WinZ19027341  66546      0      0      0  |  4441811  75704      0      0  7570402:10
zblachhow can i test the settings of fstab?02:10
warrenghow is there an apache-dev but no apache2-dev ??02:10
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icemanbasic like in dos  c:\dos\Diablo ii\Diablo ii.exe now to point wine to it ...02:10
bob2warreng: what are you trying to do?02:10
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GTroyuh ifup: failed to open statefile /etc/network/run/ifstate: permission denied02:11
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GTroywhat can I do?02:11
bob2GTroy: you'd of course run ifup with sudo02:11
GTroycool thanks02:11
warrengbob2: use apxs02:11
warrengto compile an apache mod02:11
bob2warreng: to build *what*?02:11
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GTroyignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.02:12
bob2that means you didn't put wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces02:12
GTroyis that hard to do?02:12
warrengbob2: i'm trying to create a custom version of mod_auth_mysql... so i'm rewriting that mod02:12
Hobbseezblach: see if everything's mounted where it's supposed to, as the fstab shows it should be?02:12
balzacif i use synaptic: Edit  Fix Broken Packages and it wants to remove this: http://pastebin.com/404691    is this a good idea to clean up my broken dependencies like this?02:13
warrengthe easiest way to build it is through apxs.. but the ubuntu install of apache2 doesn't have the sources/apxs... and there's only apache-dev, not apache2-dev packages02:13
bob2warreng: apt-cache --names-only search apache dev02:13
zblachhobbsee, what?02:13
bob2warreng: you need a specific one02:13
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bob2warreng: also, I'd think modifying the existing libapache-mod-mysql-auth package would be less hassle02:13
Hobbseezblach: what were you wanting to test?  as in, if a particular drive is mounted?02:14
zblachhobbsee, i want to apply a umask of 022 to 4 partitions02:15
warrengbob2: apache-dev only.. i don't see apache2-dev at all in apt-cache02:15
icemanto hell with it ... 94 % of x86 downloaded .... i'll wait ... because how to config 64 bit to run 32 bit, and then point wine to 64 bit or dos to find the app, just a little much .... at least a base system, might make it easier on me02:15
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bob2warreng: yes, I know, that's not what I told you to search for02:15
GTroyok I'll look silly how do you add wlan0 to /etc/network/interfaces?02:15
CaBlGuYgreetiungs..02:15
gimmulfIs gnutella better than limewire?02:15
CaBlGuYgreetings even..02:15
bob2GTroy: I wouldn't bother02:16
Hobbseezblach: right, not sure how you'd test that02:16
warrengbob2: OHHHH.... i saw prefork and threaded, and i figured those were for the mpm modules, not the apahce itself02:16
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CaBlGuYgot a few questions about ubuntu..02:16
GTroythen how do I get my usb wifi installed?02:16
naliothCaBlGuY: ask away02:16
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warrengbob2: you rock.. thanks :)02:17
CaBlGuYim usin ARK now, which isn't supporting my video card and the packages are kinda messed up..02:17
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bob2warreng: tho it does make me wonder if every libapache2-mod-whatever package includes three copies of each module02:17
hyphenatedmy laptop is freezing completely during heavy IO. google didn't help much. what can I do to track the problem down?02:17
CaBlGuYdoes ubuntu support NVidia cards and what kinda packages are included on the iISO?02:17
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sockpuppe1http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted is this repo ok for use02:17
hyphenatedI've tried having ssh sessions open, and tailing syslog, messages and kern.log, but they didn't output anything when the freeze occurred02:17
bob2CaBlGuY: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:17
bob2sockpuppe1: no, don't use it02:18
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sockpuppe1damn02:18
BrutusUnixMy iMac locks up on boot to a gui...anyone else heard of this problem?....its in Xorg, this is my third distro02:18
sockpuppe1i just upgraded libgl1mesa02:18
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sockpuppe16.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy102:19
balzacif i use synaptic: Edit  Fix Broken Packages and it wants to remove this: http://pastebin.com/404691    is this a good idea to clean up my broken dependencies like this?02:19
CaBlGuYbob, ummm  is that posed to be www.wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto  ??02:19
sockpuppe1is that ok or should i try to remove said packages02:19
mustard5sockpuppe1, I have libmesa upgrades too and I don't have hoary extra02:19
mustard5sockpuppe1, they are breezy updates02:19
mustard5let me find the version02:20
bob2CaBlGuY: no02:20
mustard5sockpuppe1, 6.3.2 ?02:20
sockpuppe1yeah02:20
mustard5yeah...they are the updates to breezy today02:20
sockpuppe16.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy102:20
CaBlGuYwell, it's not working then..02:20
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iceman98 % of x86 back after a reinstall ...02:20
CaBlGuYI get a 401 error..02:20
sockpuppe1so i will get rid of the other repo02:21
adriyel__wine: '/home/adriyel/.transgaming/wineserver-meow' must not be accessible by other users <--- what chown/chgrp command do I use to make it available to all users?02:21
bob2CaBlGuY: works for me.02:21
frank23when should I apply the any-any update to vmware?02:21
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mustard5sockpuppe1, apparently :D02:21
bob2adriyel__: must NOT be accessible by other users02:21
adriyel__ack02:21
adriyel__crap02:21
bob2frank23: to the module source02:21
adriyel__*bangs head*02:21
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adriyel__what chown/chgrp commands would I use to lock it out?02:21
sockpuppe1thanks !02:21
mustard5sockpuppe1, probably not much in there that you need...check for what is obsolete when you remove it and update02:21
starscallinghey whats a good interface to just put songs on my ipod?02:22
sockpuppe1you got it man02:22
sockpuppe1starscalling rhythmbox?02:22
starscallingo.O sweet thanx sockpuppe1 :)02:22
bob2adriyel__: chmod 600 blah02:22
sockpuppe1no prob02:22
starscallingthats even in already! <302:22
adriyel__bob2, use nautilus to fix it methinks :P02:22
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CaBlGuYok, how bout on a scale from 1 - 10 the ease of use of Ubuntu..??02:23
HobbseeCaBlGuY: compared to what?02:23
adriyel__wine: chdir to /home/adriyel/.transgaming/wineserver-meow : Permission denied02:23
adriyel__wtf.02:23
sockpuppe1depends on the hardware ,am02:23
frank23bob2: did you know that vmware is distrubuting an image for their new vmware-player which is a "secure browser": essentially hoary running firefox is what they chose02:23
CaBlGuYcompared to winblowz..  since Im  a Linux n00b still..02:23
mauriciohi, does anybody knows how to use msn messenger in linux?02:24
sockpuppe1well it isnt idiot proof02:24
samuel_so anyone might know what the problem is?02:24
adriyel__bob2, see the above problem? chdir to /home/adriyel/.transgaming/wineserver-meow : Permission denied...wtf?02:24
yimauricio: use gaim02:24
HobbseeCaBlGuY: well, a lot more of it "just works" but it can be a bit more of a pain to fix things....i personally find it easier to use than windows02:24
mustard5CaBlGuY, if you hang out in here...the ease of use is good :D02:24
sockpuppe1or aMSN02:24
CaBlGuYwell, I know it's not idiot proof, I've been usin ARK on and off for a good year or so..02:24
Hobbseemauricio: gaim, kopete, aMSN02:24
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mauriciowhere can I find them?02:25
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bob2frank23: hah, pimp02:25
davidleerothI have a prob... I am creating a kustom kernel and I dont have mkinitrd. Where can this be downloaded?02:25
sockpuppe1apt-get install gaim02:25
sockpuppe1or amsn02:25
bob2adriyel__: you can't change into dirs you don't have permissions for02:25
icemanwhats the iso app for ubuntu in gnome02:25
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adriyel__...the folder belongs to my account02:25
bob2adriyel__: 600 denies you the ability to chdir (since it doesn't allow execute)02:25
ramza3how do install just plain *.deb files02:25
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ramza3I02:25
bob2adriyel__: you can make files inaccessible to yourself02:25
CaBlGuYthe only reason I'm lookin to change distros is support, cause ARK isn't supporting my Video card ,,  and I don't know how to "build" it so it can use it..02:25
davidleerothramza dpkg -i xxx.deb02:26
mustard5davidleeroth, synaptic?02:26
bob2adriyel__: tho yo ucan of course immediately giveyourself permission back again02:26
samuel_how do i upgrade fomr 4.05 to breezy?02:26
CaBlGuYso, I need a distro that requgnizes everything..02:26
ramza3davidleeroth, what about from a URL02:26
Kassahso umm... is there anyway to play MP3s on RythmBox? (aka Gnome Music Player)02:26
adriyel__bob2, it works now02:26
bob2CaBlGuY: so, give ubuntu a go02:26
bob2CaBlGuY: no one can guess if it will work for you or not02:26
bob2Kassah: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:26
davidleerothramza, wget xxx.deb, then dpkg -i xxx.deb02:26
bimberiKassah: install gstreamer0.8-lame (from universe)02:26
bob2Kassah: that is in the FAQ02:26
mauricioso, do I have to download something?02:26
davidleerothmkinitrd is not in the apt repo02:26
ramza3davidleeroth, ah02:26
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adriyel__here's to getting HL2 running, and being windows free!02:26
icemanWhat app is the for burning iso's from gnome ...02:26
davidleerothi really need that02:26
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HobbseeCaBlGuY: use a live cd to check that you have an internet connection, if you want - as long as you have internet, you have the resources to fix anything else that doesnt work02:26
HumpBackHello02:26
dooglusbob2: I installed a breezy chroot, then did a 'dist-upgrade' to dapper and nothing needed upgrading.  is that to be expected?02:26
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CaBlGuYhas anyone else had problems with Nvidia card sin Ubuntu??  or do they generaly just work/..02:27
CaBlGuY?02:27
ramza3is ubuntu cooler than gentoo02:27
P8ntKidHow come i just installed fluxbox and it doesnt show up on my sessions list.02:27
ramza3I am a former gentoo user02:27
davidleerothramza, of course!02:27
HobbseeCaBlGuY: dont have one, but they work better than ati ones, i hear02:27
adriyel__bob2, got an error, says could not connect to steam network, wtf?02:27
sockpuppe1cablguy did you install the drivers02:27
dooglusramza3: if you're asking which is "cooler" you probably want to stick with gentoo :)02:27
davidleerothgentoo is pretty cool02:27
CaBlGuYARK isn't supporting the drivers for my card..02:27
aimazCaBlGuY, i have a GeForce2 and it worked fine with default install of ubuntu02:27
ramza3davidleeroth, I got tired of the compiles02:27
bob2dooglus: yeah, it only opened like an hour ago, stuff is pribably still building02:27
bob2CaBlGuY: they generally work fine02:27
markomine g force2 works great02:27
davidleerothhell yeah ramza i hear ya02:27
mustard5davidleeroth, k.. I have two hits with a search on mkinitrd  ...mkinitrd-cd and bootcd-mkinitrd02:27
frank23CaBlGuY: nvidia mostly just work. some people might have problems with very old or very new cards02:27
bob2CaBlGuY: this is not an ark support channel, sorry02:28
adriyel__bob2, is there any reason why steam under cedega wouldn't be able to connect to the internet?02:28
davidleerothmustard, those are of no use02:28
bob2CaBlGuY: if you want to try ubuntu, download it and install it02:28
ryanpghehe... wow I was able to see dapper in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ for a while but then a refresh resulted in it's abrupt dissapearance, oh well I discovered xorg 7.0RC1 isn't there yet anyway :(02:28
aimazCaBlGuY, if you want faster games though you should use the actual nvidia driver02:28
sockpuppe1i have the weirdest thin i did what gentoo did with ubuntu...sort of02:28
CaBlGuYbob, I know..02:28
CaBlGuY:p02:28
bob2adriyel__: no idea, #cedega, perhaps02:28
sockpuppe1i like to compile from source02:28
CaBlGuYI'm just tryin to get all the info I can b 4 I swap distros.02:28
markoI heard older that gf2 make problems02:28
adriyel__indeed.02:28
bob2ryanpg: yes, it won't be thee for some time02:28
mustard5davidleeroth, I figured I was just being redudant soz :)02:28
davidleerothramza, when i installed it it had no installed (it was a bitch)02:28
P8ntKidHow come i just installed fluxbox and it doesnt show up on my sessions list.02:28
bob2sockpuppe1: compiling librarires from source is going to lead to pain02:28
HobbseeCaBlGuY: just give it a shot - it's way easier to figure out something when you see it in front of you :)02:28
dooglusryanpg: it's still there.02:28
davidleerothanyone know where mkinitrd can be found?02:28
markoI have prob with gnome-dictionary02:28
CaBlGuYok,02:29
ryanpgbob2, dunno... it's in debian unstable (or experimental)02:29
CaBlGuYthanks guys..02:29
HobbseeCaBlGuY: no problems02:29
adriyel__bob2, #cedega appears to be dead... :( *cries*02:29
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bob2ryanpg: yes, ubuntu does not get X from Debian02:29
ryanpgdooglus, yeah I've never had such a thing happen before... dapper was in /ubuntu/dists but now it's gone02:29
bob2in the past, anyway02:29
bob2davidleeroth: breezy uses initramfs02:29
dooglusryanpg: you can't see http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/ then?02:29
markognome-dict seem to look for word as I type, that makes app to be very slow02:29
davidleeroththank you!02:29
ryanpgbob2, I thought daniels was maintaining it02:29
ryanpgdooglus, nope\02:30
bob2ryanpg: in ubuntu, yes, but not in debian (tho he helps david)02:30
markonothing in preferences to fix that02:30
davidleerothbob2, where would i get this?02:30
Kassahbob2, umm... just wondering... can't distribute mp3 decoder.... but umm... can link to xmms which comes with an mp3 decoder?02:30
bob2davidleeroth: I don't know what you're trying to do02:30
dooglusryanpg: maybe this is something to do with archive.ubuntu.com resolving to 3 different IP addresses - maybe they aren't all up to date yet.02:30
sockpuppe1bob definitely02:30
bob2Kassah: yes, it's a legal grey area and people are not being consistent about it02:30
sockpuppe1dependency hell02:30
ryanpgdooglus, weird eh? I was able to get the Package.bz2 though which is all I wanted02:30
Kassahahh... just checking02:30
bob2Kassah: there are no mp3 decoders on the CD, tho, which I thin kwas the aim.02:30
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P8ntKidHow come i just installed fluxbox and it doesnt show up on my sessions list.02:30
adriyel__bob2, I've gotta get another bloody version of cedega. CRAP02:30
davidleerothbob2, just forget it... i found mkinitrd02:30
davidleerothonline02:30
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ryanpgdooglus, I suspected that was the case though I've gotten no help here confirming that :P02:31
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Kassahbob2, that's good02:31
bob2ryanpg: archive.ubuntu.com points at 3 machines, perhaps they're not all in sync02:31
bob2adriyel__: ok02:31
sockpuppe1you guys I was thinking of using a mini-itx as a firewall02:31
bob2P8ntKid: it won't unless you add it; search the wiki for fluxbox02:31
ryanpgbob2, yeah that's what I was saying/asking earlier02:31
jonnyI made KDE my default, but I would like to switch back to GNOME how can I do this?02:31
bob2davidleeroth: I think you're about to make your system unbootable; what is your aim02:31
sockpuppe1preferably with monowall02:31
apokryphosjonny: from the login screen02:31
ryanpgok... last try before I go off to google my way to an answer... does the dapper repository need time to spread through mirrors or am I looking in the entirely wrong places?02:31
odie5533Are there any good bittorrent clients for Ubuntu?02:31
Hobbseejonny: very easily, at the login screen, click gnome, and it will give you a dialog to use it as default02:32
apokryphosryanpg: it, of course, takes time. You shouldn't be using it though.02:32
sockpuppe1odie there is azureus   (don't flame me)02:32
ryanpgoops didn't mean to spam that... was going to quote instead... anyway now that I know I'm not crazy I'll be using it as soon as the xorg stuff goes online02:32
davidleerothbob2, I am making a custom kernel... all i need to do now is make an initrd02:32
davidleeroththen edit grub02:32
jonnyI tried but it did ask me if I would like to make GNOME my default.02:32
odie5533When I downloaded the jar file of azureus it wouldn't run02:32
ryanpgI've learned I can't live without Exa + composite + xcompmgr :D02:32
davidleerothbob2, do you understand my goal now?02:33
jonnycan i do it through the termanil?02:33
sockpuppe1install java02:33
odie5533It is02:33
sockpuppe1blackdown02:33
odie5533Sun Java02:33
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sockpuppe1no sun02:33
sockpuppe1blackdown02:33
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odie5533I had tried blackdown02:33
davidleerothuse sun java02:33
odie5533ill try again02:33
jonnyterminal02:33
jonny*02:33
sockpuppe1apt-cache search blackdown02:33
sockpuppe1get rid of sun02:33
davidleerothbob2????02:33
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jonnycan I change my default from KDE to GNOME in the terminal02:34
apokryphossockpuppe1: er, why?02:34
doogluswhen I install packages in breezy, it gets stuck at the "Reading database..." bit for a long time, whereas my new chroot environment gets past that very quickly.  Can I re-create the database somehow to speed it up?02:34
sockpuppe1i ran into the same problem that he did02:34
dooglusjonny: I got the 'snowball' game working if you're interested.02:34
apokryphosjonny: GDM won't respect the default you set there, but startx can if you like02:34
sockpuppe1and its what worked for me02:34
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jonnywow! how?02:34
jonnydooglus02:34
apokryphossockpuppe1: er, with sun? Never had that problem.02:35
dooglusjonny: first install package 'python2.4-pygame', then cd into the 'snowball' directory and type "python snowball.py"02:35
sockpuppe1not with sun itself02:35
sockpuppe1azureus went a little crazy02:35
jonnyok i might give it a try later, is it fun?02:35
dooglusjonny: it's a Python game, so you don't need to build anything.  But it uses the pygame libraries.02:35
odie5533azureus won't even run :S02:35
sockpuppe1pinpointed the prob as java02:35
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Fuji-sanKnorrie02:35
frank23dooglus: you just have more package installed in your main system than in your chroot. I would say its normal to be faster in  the chroot02:35
Fuji-sanKNORRIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:35
Fuji-san:P02:35
dooglusit's not the best, no.  kind of a puzzle game - like solomon's key if you know that.02:35
jonnyis it fun, dooglus?02:35
Fuji-sanKNORRIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:36
jonnyp sorry02:36
markodoes anybody have problems with gnome-dictionary, it seems very buggy to me?02:36
jonnyi did not see that up there02:36
dooglusfrank23: right, but it's SO much slower, and I don't have a lot more installed.  I was wondering if my database has got fragmented, or some such.02:36
sockpuppe1bob2 do yo think the mini-itx firewall thing is a good idea02:36
davidleerothDoes anyone know how to create an initrd from a vmlinuz file?02:36
DruQksAnyone here have an acer travelmate 8100 comp?02:36
bob2davidleeroth: if you're making a a custom kernel, why on earth are you using an initrd/02:36
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frank23dooglus: I don't know...02:36
bob2sockpuppe1: if you have the money to burn02:36
davidleerothbob2, so all i need is a vmlinuz file?02:36
naliothsockpuppe1: it will work02:37
dooglusfrank23: I've had the same database for 9 months or so I guess, installed and removed a whole load of stuff...02:37
Knorriebob2: tnx02:37
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XenguyFuji-san: now behave ;-)02:37
naliothsockpuppe1: find you a beat-up-486 and use it for a firewwall02:37
jonnyOK so when I log out and click GNOME it dies not ask me if I would like to set it as my default.02:37
Fuji-sanok02:37
Fuji-san:-)02:37
sockpuppe1but should I do that as opposed to just buying a regular firewall?02:37
sockpuppe1lol nalioth02:37
sockpuppe1not enough room02:37
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CosmoDaddavidleeroth: mkinitd can create initial ramdisks, but I'd also propose not to create initrd images unless necessary02:38
Fuji-san> Cannot join channel: #ubuntu-nl (You are banned) <--- i was banned for being half chinese and being proud of the fact that CHina will dominate02:38
Fuji-san:)02:38
Fuji-sandamn dutch02:38
jonnyanyone know?02:38
davidleerothok brb02:38
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Fuji-san:-)02:38
davidleerothgonna test my kernel02:38
apokryphosFuji-san: this is off-topic02:38
naliothFuji-san: that is off topic02:38
bob2Fuji-san: enough02:38
bob2wtf02:38
gnomefreakdapper exists now?02:38
bob2sockpuppe1: I'd certainly go with a mini-itc and linux/bsd ahead of a commercial firewall box02:38
KnorrieFuji-san: go sleap now, it's enaough02:38
bob2gnomefreak: yes, with nothing in it02:38
Fuji-sanlol02:39
bob2sockpuppe1: but I'm just special like that02:39
Knorries/enaough/enough/02:39
odie5533when I try to use a sudo command I get this - sudo: can't open /var/run/sudo/odie5533/tty2 read only02:39
gnomefreaklol give it a month or 2 they should have 1st beta out02:39
sockpuppe1well is it better to use linux or bsd for that purpose (no flames please)02:39
bob2odie5533: sounds like your root filesystem is trashed02:39
odie5533that doesnt sound good02:39
bob2sockpuppe1: whichever you're more comfortable with, basically02:39
odie5533is that bad?02:39
gnomefreakgrrrrrrrr@bsd02:40
naliothsockpuppe1: using a 486 (or mini itx) allows more configuration then a "off the shelf" firewall02:40
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bob2odie5533: "yes"02:40
odie5533Fixable?02:40
bob2odie5533: oh, wait, I mean "really bad"02:40
bob2odie5533: look at the end of "dmesg"02:40
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sockpuppe1I think ill try it with either monowall or some other distro02:41
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apokryphosFuji-san: this is an English speaking channel, quite obviously02:41
bimberisockpuppe1: there's also IPCop and Smoothwall02:41
apokryphosplease don't be annoying02:41
cronicHow can I autodetect a new NIC in console?02:41
Fuji-sansoz02:41
odie5533I have some read errors on hda and then I have apm: disabled on user request02:41
cronicodie5533: New hard drive time02:41
Xenguysockpuppe1: shorewall  ?02:41
odie5533that bad?02:41
cronicyessir02:41
Fuji-sani ont talk in that third world language again apokryphos.. :-)02:42
CosmoDadcronic: lspci and modprobe maybe?02:42
cronicread errors are baaaad02:42
Fuji-sanwiont*02:42
odie5533is there a way to make sure its that bad?02:42
Fuji-san;)))02:42
odie5533like have a program copy files to hd, then verify their integrity?02:42
apokryphosFuji-san: ok, just keep talk in here on-topic -- this is a help channel. #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter =)02:42
odie5533before I go buying a new hdd...02:42
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balzacif i use synaptic: Edit  Fix Broken Packages and it wants to remove this: http://pastebin.com/404691    is this a good idea to clean up my broken dependencies like this?02:42
jonnyhow can I how can I create a new network?02:42
cronicCosmoDad: lspci doesn't see it..... odd.02:42
bob2balzac: stop pasting non-ascii stuff in here02:42
P8ntKidhow do i get fluxbox to show up on the Sessions list?02:43
balzacnon-ascii?02:43
bob2odie5533: read the output of dmesg and paste it to #flood02:43
CosmoDadcronic: is it an PCI card actually?02:43
cronicYes.02:43
cronicThere is one onboard, and another PCI slotted02:43
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gnomefreakif im not mistaken most if not all of those packages are part of build-essentail02:43
odie5533bob2: its a REALLY REALLY long output02:43
cronicIt sees the onboard one, but not the carded NIC02:43
naliothP8ntKid: if you install it from synaptic, it should make an entry02:43
odie5533I mean, extremely long02:43
CosmoDadcronic: and "lspci|grep -i ethernet" doesn't yield anything?02:43
bob2odie5533: the last 20 lines to #flood02:43
P8ntKidnalioth, I didnt. I downloaded it from fluxbox.org02:43
sockpuppe1does anyone here use a similar device as I was describing above?02:44
cronicCosmoDad: it's Ethernet -- and no it only shows the onboard02:44
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bob2balzac: tell it to install ubuntu-desktop and build-essential02:44
bob2balzac: also, paste your /etc/apt/sou to #flood02:44
cronicI already did that. ;-p02:44
CosmoDadcronic: what about dmesg?02:44
cronicNothing.02:44
naliothP8ntKid: visit /usr/share/xsessions  and monkey-see monkey-do02:44
odie5533bob2: is there a way to paste from a seperate session (like CTRL [F2]  paste goes over to my main CTRL F7)?02:44
cronicOnly shows ETH002:44
odie5533because I can't open a terminal on this session anymore for some reason :S02:44
jonnyhow do I get fluxbox?02:44
Mr_Milenkofluxbox.org02:44
Knorriebob2: it's ok so with fuji-san tnx02:44
jonnyok02:44
titaniumbob2: i now have a completely clean install of ubuntu breezy. the desktop is still loading. now, i've added Seveas' packages to my sources.list; apt-get install ssh and then apt-get install freenx? anything im missing?02:44
mgwst3does anyone know where i can get a copy of 1280patch.c?02:44
CosmoDadcronic: sounds like a hardware issue to me..02:44
balzacbob2, so i don't do the fix thing, i just reinstall those packages you mentioned?02:44
Mr_Milenkojohny: they have deb packages but there outdated02:45
cronicI know the card is good, I just pulled it out of a machine....02:45
Mr_Milenkoid compile from source :)02:45
Knorriebob2: sry bout this anyway02:45
bob2odie5533: gpm, but that's not simple.  switc to #flood and try '/exec -o dmesg | tail -n20'02:45
bob2Knorrie: ?02:45
CosmoDadcronic: maybe switch pci slots to make sure it's no IRQ conflict or something02:45
bob2odie5533: yes, you don't be able to most things, your root filesystem, is read-only now02:45
bob2titanium: sounds reasonable02:45
cronicYeah that's what Im going to do. it's all I can think of...02:45
cronicbe back in a few.02:45
Strogjonny: Disregard that flippant answer. You can get fluxbox with apt-get or synaptics. It's better to grab that way since it's already patched and ready to go. ;-)02:45
bob2jonny: sudo apt-get install fluxbox02:46
titaniumbob2: ok. also, apt-get ssh or apt-get openssh-server? or does it matter?02:46
ThomasMtitanium: 'apt-get install ssh' will install openssh-server and openssh-client, methinks.02:46
Strogtitanium: apt-get install packagename02:46
Knorriebob2: fuji-blah was really annying at ubuntu-nl he got banned there and started hunting me here, so he solicited for this ban02:46
odie5533why would it be read only? Is there anything I can do to fix this or do I need to just reinstall ubuntu?02:46
jonnyThank you02:46
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bob2titanium: the latter02:46
bob2Knorrie: ah, right, thanks :)02:47
leonelwhere can I read about the  Mono legal issues with  Ubuntu ?02:47
balzacbob2, did you mean I need to only talk about command-line analysis and solutions, rather than discussing menu commands from synaptic?02:47
Knorriebob2: np tnx02:47
bob2odie5533: it would be read-only because the kernel thought it was about to explode02:47
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bob2odie5533: ie it was giving unfixable errors02:47
odie5533unfixable... would a reinstall of ubuntu fix them?02:47
bob2balzac: I mean "I have no idea what synapticd is doing, show us your /etc/apt/sources.list"02:47
bob2odie5533: depeds wnat the problem is02:47
bob2odie5533: didn't we have this conversation a month ago?02:47
bob2leonel: there are none02:48
Alchemist_odie - if you have data on there spinrite can sometimes get it back (grc.com)02:48
odie5533I don't believe so02:48
adriyel__bob2, I just got threatened with being banned from #cedega by cyph02:48
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balzacah, that's relevant. i added at least one 'universe' - hoary extras02:48
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cyphasehey jonny02:48
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cyphasehow's it going?02:48
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titaniumi swear to god, if freenx still doesnt work after this, ill stab myself02:48
balzaci can get that sources list, brb02:48
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zdennisAfter upgrading to breezy, Eclipse 3.1 screws up with cvs02:48
jonnyhey02:48
bob2adriyel__: charming02:48
leonelbob2, AFAICT   RAND is not compatible with GPL    and mono is RAND02:49
spanglesontoasthmmm02:49
odie5533bob2: should that dmesg command output nothing on a good stable system?02:49
zdennisanyone else see this problem? I get "An intenal error occured during: 'Synchronizing CVS'"02:49
adriyel__bob2, yeah, I suddenly exclaim that I got it working, and all of the sudden I am a pirate02:49
zdennisi get this whenever i try to do any cvs activities02:49
bob2leonel: RAND? as in Reasonable And Non-Discrimantory licensing?02:49
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bob2adriyel__: haha, awesome02:49
bob2zdennis: as in, when you use the "cvs" command line program?02:49
cyphasejonny, is everything working?02:49
zdennisno, when using Eclipse's builtin CVS02:49
bob2odie5533: no, it will just output some kernel boot messages02:49
adriyel__bob2, its ok, I like this channel better. mutters....pr***s....02:50
leonelbob2, yes  Reasonable to one person means 1 thing  and for other person can mean other thing02:50
jonnythis command does not work for me :sudo apt-get install fluxbox02:50
bob2zdennis: talk to an ecplise person02:50
DruQksCan anyone help me with ubuntu in a travelmate 8104 laptop? :D02:50
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bob2leonel: RAND is code for "big companies get to screw you over"02:50
zdennisheh, the problem didn't exist until i upgraded to Breezy =)02:50
grodiusWhat's the command to update all programs in term?02:50
bob2leonel: Mono is absolutely not under a RAND license02:50
leonelbob2, RAND is not FREE  so  not  GPL compatible02:50
odie5533well, im off to reinstall. Bye02:50
bob2leonel: it's under the BSD license02:50
bob2grodius: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes02:50
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bob2DruQks: be way way less vague and maybe someone will02:50
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titaniumbob2: sigh, installing freenx now, cross your fingers :(02:51
leonelbob2, ok mono bsd   C#  rand02:51
jonnycyphase: all except for 3 things 1.that command doesn't work 2.Im stuck in KDE as default 3.I do not know how to settup a new network02:51
bob2leonel: wtf are you talking about?02:51
cyphase...02:51
cyphasehow is KDE default?02:51
bob2leonel: C# is an ECMA standard, under a "do whatever you want" license02:51
DruQksbob2, well. . . apparently having your wireless card in the travelmate 8104 work is quite a hassle. . . as well as the sound and some other stuff.02:51
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leonelbob2, C# is ECMA AND RAND02:51
bob2DruQks: is it too late to return it?02:51
leonelthat's my concern02:51
bob2leonel: I think that is not the case02:51
balzacbob2, i've pasted my etc/apt/sources.list in #flood. Also, I happen to know I created these broken dependencies by doing dpkg outside the apt system02:51
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DruQksI need a wiz to read through "http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=46536" and help me with it :)02:52
bob2leonel: unless you have a link demonstrating that, I can only assume you're misinformed02:52
Demon_strokehelp: No active partition error after ubuntu installation02:52
DruQksbob2, yes, much too late :)02:52
jonnyI installed kubuntu and it will no dialoge box comes up when I switch back to GNOME so I have to manually do it every time02:52
robotgeekleonel: #ubuntu-offtopic02:52
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leonelbob2, better yet  you show me your links02:52
leonelanyway02:52
ceruleatanyone able to get WPA+TKIP working with a Linksys BEFW11S4?02:52
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leonelkeep rocking02:52
pupilI need to get realplayer,,. is there a deb for it?02:52
bob2leonel: no02:52
davidleerothmy kernel didnt work :(02:52
bob2anyway, good luck02:53
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bob2DruQks: why on earth are you compiling a kernel to begin with?02:53
davidleerothWho is DruQks?02:53
cyphasejonny, did you download kubuntu?02:53
DruQksTo get stuff to work?02:53
jonnyOh, cyphase, if you have a AIM screenname give it to me because I need to ask you something about Bttorrent but not here02:53
pupilI need to get realplayer,,. is there a deb for it?02:53
davidleerothbob2, you seem to know a lot about this stuff... could you help me02:53
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aeon17xpupil: go to the official Real site.02:54
jonnyand not kubuntu itself, just KDE02:54
jonnyBittorrent*02:54
davidleerothwhen i booted up, it said stuff about modules and no such directory02:54
bob2davidleeroth: not unless you actually explain your goal02:54
bob2davidleeroth: I've asked 3 times now and you still haven't told me02:54
davidleerothbob2, my goal is just to have the latest kernel with my sound driver module installed02:54
davidleerothfor some reason my old kernel didnt have it02:54
davidleeroththats it02:54
bob2davidleeroth: and the name of the module is?02:54
DruQksbob2, the forum page I linked to says that I have to get a new kernel and change it in order for my wireless card, sound and misc. buttons on my laptop to work.02:55
Demon_strokehelp needed, no active partition...help please02:55
titaniumbob2: PRAISE JESUS, IT WORKS02:55
bob2titanium: yay02:55
DruQksProblem is that I've never touched linux before and I think getting this far has been a miracle :D02:55
davidleerothi did make xconfig and checked it, then I make'd, make'd module_install, then make'd install the kernel02:55
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bob2davidleeroth: and the name of the module is...02:55
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davidleeroththen you told me i didnt need an initrd02:56
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Alchemist_echo echo02:56
joshuaWhat's the name of the package for the firefox java plugin.  I can't find it via aptcache, and i need to use a java applet.02:56
bob2davidleeroth: you can imagine how frustrating it is when I try to help you and you refuse yto answer simple questions like this02:56
davidleerothi dont remember the name, but it is an ati ixp ac97 soundcard02:56
bob2then find out02:56
davidleerothdude give me a damn chance, I only have 2 hands to type with02:56
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Neroscan anyone see this?02:56
DruQksNeros, no.02:56
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bob2balzac: those last two look dodgy02:56
cyphasejonny, did you get my PM?02:56
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davidleerothatiixp and sk98lin02:56
bob2balzac: I'd remove them02:56
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balzacthe last two universes?02:57
brendenhas anyone here got openfas working on ubuntu?02:57
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bob2/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/kernel/sound/pci/snd-atiixp.ko02:57
davidleeroththe modules are unrelated02:57
bob2davidleeroth: that module is a part of the standard ubuntu kernel02:57
balzacone is hoary extras, i've removed it02:57
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balzacthe other, i thought was official02:57
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bob2grawert.net = ogra's private apt source02:58
balzacok, thanks02:58
davidleerothwell anyway, 2.6.13.4 is what i made02:58
davidleerothwhen i boot up02:58
icemanCan i get a good complete source's list file from someone ... to update x8602:58
bob2davidleeroth: so, there's no need to compile a kernel to get either of those modules02:58
bob2iceman: you already have one, or use apt-setup02:58
Alchemist_davidleeroth - why dont you use the standard kernel?02:58
bob2davidleeroth: now reboot into the 2.6.12 ubuntu kernel02:58
DruQksbob2, help me next!! :D02:58
davidleerothbob2, i also have apps and my sound doesnt work02:58
davidleerothI just need the new kernel02:58
joshuaDoes anyone know the package for firefox's java plugin?02:58
bob2davidleeroth: that's awesome, reboot into 2.6.12 and we can figure out why02:58
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bob2joshua: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java02:59
davidleerothi am in 2.6.1302:59
davidleeroth*1202:59
joshuaThanks bob202:59
Hobbsee!tell joshua about javadeb02:59
bob2davidleeroth: what exactly does "uname -r" print?02:59
Paradoxx!mount02:59
ubotusomebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives02:59
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davidleerothLinux ubuntu 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic #1 Mon Oct 10 13:27:39 BST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux02:59
bob2DruQks: all I can suggest is looking for information about it in the wiki and linux-laptop.net02:59
Paradoxx!windowsdrives02:59
ubotumethinks windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:59
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bob2davidleeroth: great. and 'lsmod|grep ataii'?02:59
davidleeroth!gay02:59
DruQksbob2, I already found it. . . even linked to it. . . just can't understand it and need help with it :)02:59
DruQksHence the asking for help bit.03:00
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davidleerothi did it03:00
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grodiusHow do I change my resolution ? i'm stretching big time03:00
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davidleerothok i did it03:00
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naliothubotu: tell grodius about fixres03:01
bob2grodius: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:01
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titaniumcan't get into php so i'll ask it here: php4 or php5? development+light production server03:01
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bob2whatever your code runs on03:01
davidleerothdoes anyone here know how to compile kernels?03:02
titaniumi have no code yet :O03:02
BrutusUnixcan anyone get ubuntu working on a iMac G5?03:02
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Kyraldavidleeroth, I do03:02
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Alchemist_brutus - im running on a mac mini G403:02
davidleerothkyral, can you help me!!!!?!!!?03:02
bob2davidleeroth: stop it03:02
KyralDepends03:02
Kyralwhat is wrong03:02
adriyel__its not that difficult, sheesh, they have menu's...genkernel...all sorts of stuff03:02
bob2davidleeroth: 10:59:46           bob2 | davidleeroth: great. and 'lsmod|grep ataii'?03:03
davidleerothI told you i did it!03:03
BrutusUnixg4 Xorg works good but G5 I can't get Xorg to work03:03
Falstiushow can I add arbitrary directories to the "Places" menu (other than mounting them in /media)?03:03
bob2davidleeroth: and what did it print?03:03
davidleerothnothing03:03
davidleerothlike i said03:03
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bob2davidleeroth: great03:03
icemanshould i have any problems getting wine to install from x8603:03
bob2davidleeroth: 'sudo modprobe ataiiwhateveritwas'03:03
Paradoxxhmm, when i do a dsmeg|less i get alot of errors03:03
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Paradoxxi'm not sure how to interpret them, can some1 assist me please03:03
bob2Paradoxx: paste them to #flood03:04
Alchemist_brutus - error on X startup ?03:04
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that_weaselanyone have any trouble connecting to WEP enabled access points?03:04
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that_weaseli'm using NDISwrapper for my wireless carf03:04
that_weaselcard03:05
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bob2yay ndiswrapper03:05
frank23bob2: I installed the any-any patch to vmware and now network-manager work without destroying my system. I guess I was just lucky that vmware worked before without the patch!03:05
bob2davidleeroth: now paste the last few lines of "dmesg" to #flood03:05
bob2frank23: ah, yay03:05
jonnyhow can I set up a new network03:06
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Alchemist_jonny - get two cans and a long piece of string03:06
mauricioHi; I downloaded amsn, now I need to know how to install it... anybody knows?03:06
jonnyIm not kidding!03:06
jonnylol03:06
bob2jonny: define what you mean by "network"03:06
bob2mauricio: don't download it, install it using synaptic03:06
Xenguyjonny: you need to be way more specific03:06
frank23mauricio: you can install amsn the easy way with synaptic03:06
balzacbob2, I've pasted my modified install plan in #flood03:06
jonnyethernet...surf the net03:07
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frank23mauricio: enable universe03:07
frank23!tell maurico about repos03:07
Paradoxxbob2 how do i paste the output of the command into a text file again?03:07
prgcan anyone help with a startup config question?03:07
Paradoxx>whatever.txt?03:07
jonnywe have a cable modem03:07
bob2balzac: just ignore synaptic, I guess03:07
bob2prg: just ask03:07
bob2Paradoxx: yes03:07
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balzacok03:07
bob2balzac: do the upgrade with apt, then see what synaptic says03:08
balzacok03:08
Paradoxxit dosen't work with dmeg for some reason, it creates an empty text file03:08
balzacthanks03:08
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adriyel__bob2, this is the case of most Operating systems, if it tells you anything, and yet everything works, ignore all other output except that which is pertinent to the application in use03:08
bob2Paradoxx: dmesg > ./foo.txt03:08
johnnyanybody here setup php on ubuntu?03:08
prgMy breezy install hangs for about 30 seconds during startup at the 'Configuring Network....' operation.  Where are the config files located to control this?03:08
adriyel__aka, clicky clicky.03:08
bob2johnny: lots of people03:08
bob2prg: /etc/network/interfaces, remove the "auto eth0" line03:08
johnnythe modules provided aren't enough03:09
bob2prg: then run "sudo ifup eth0" when you're actually pluggined into the network03:09
bob2johnny: be less vague03:09
johnnyi need pcntl and dio.. is there an easy way to create these ?03:09
Paradoxxbob2: i should post that in flood?03:09
bob2where "pcntl" and "dio" are?03:09
johnnyi have never created a dev03:09
johnnythey are php modules03:09
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prgbob2:  I can also enable it through the 'network manager' right?03:09
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johnnyi use added the use flags and done..03:10
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bob2Paradoxx: yes03:10
bob2johnny: you mean libphp-diogenes - library for web site creation03:10
bob2?03:10
johnnyno03:10
johnnydio is direct io03:10
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bob2 Compiled in extensions include: bcmath, bz2, calendar, ctype, dba, dbx,03:10
bob2 exif, filepro, ftp, gettext, iconv, mbstring, mime_magic, ncurses, openssl,03:10
bob2 overload, pcntl, pcre, posix, session, shmop, sockets, standard, sysvmsg,03:10
bob2also, please read the php4 package description03:11
johnnyphp503:11
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johnnydio isn't in that list :)03:11
bob2johnny: php5 says the same thing03:11
logikalHow do i unload pics off diital camera?03:11
bob2indeed03:11
johnnyi didn't actually check for pcntl ..03:11
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bob2logikal: depends on the camera03:11
mauriciofrank23: How do I use\e synaptic?03:11
threeseashello03:11
johnnyi just assumed that if dio wasn't included then pcntl wouldn't be either03:11
bob2mauricio: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto03:11
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johnnysince they are not normall needed03:11
bob2silly assumption03:11
yiugh03:11
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starscallingbob2, i looked up xinerama btw, and it seems to make 2 monitors into one seamless desktop.. but i would like to do things like maximize irc on one monitor and maximize anime on another.. is there something else i should look up to do this? im running a nvidia fx 5200 which does support this but yeah.. how does ubuntu/linux do this :P03:11
johnnywell dio isn't there03:11
yiwhat's the deal with cups configuring it self so i can't use the web interface03:12
logikalbob203:12
yihow can i fix that?03:12
logikalI can see the camera03:12
logikalcant unload the images or see them tho03:12
Paradoxxbob2 i got kicked...03:12
Paradoxxlol03:12
Paradoxxbut here...03:12
Paradoxxhere is the pastebin for it03:12
Paradoxxhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/357703:12
logikalCould not read file could nt lock the device03:12
bob2logikal: pelase read what I said03:12
bob2as great as people ignoring me and answering questions I didn't ask is...03:12
logikalWhat did you say03:12
logikalIts a HP Photosmart 63503:12
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Alchemist_starscalling: you need to setup two screens in your x-config - then you can point some apps at display:0.0 and others at display:0.1 - I do this with my tv-out03:12
mauriciobob2: thanks03:12
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logikalI have it installed correctly03:13
bob2johnny: sudo apt-get build-dep php4 ; apt-get source php4 ; edit debian/rule to pass --enable-dio-whatever ; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot03:13
bob2logikal: good luck!03:13
bob2starscalling: adios03:13
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threeseasI'm trying to compile a wireless device and it says I need the kernel sources (ubuntu 5.10) but I need to know what it is I'm supposed to get (snaptic)03:13
logikalwhy good luck?03:13
mustard5cause he's going :D03:13
starscallingheh so much for him in this chan03:13
starscallingbut anyway03:13
johnnythat should work for php5 ?03:13
logikaloh03:13
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ParadoxxLOL03:13
balzacbob2 solves problems like whackamole03:13
johnnywhen you say edit debian/rule ?03:13
johnnythat doesn't mean nothin to me03:14
starscallingx-config huh Alchemist_ .. where do i go to modify that }n00b i know gomen{03:14
mustard5what type of camera logikal ?03:14
johnnyi'm not a debian guy03:14
dracflamlochello folks, does ubuntu have sshd by default03:14
Paradoxxkk, can some1 help me please... I have an external hd and for some reason my machine dosen't pick it up anymore. This occured after i formatted it.03:14
threeseasall I see is header files for the kernel03:14
johnnydracflamloc, apt-get install openssh-server03:14
dooglusstarscalling: I've got it set up nicely so that if I maximise a window it maximises on just the monitor it's on, but I can still drag apps from one monitor to the other.03:14
natexI have read and followed the directions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA  and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, I can still not get my dvd player to work properly. Someone help me out?03:15
johnnyit installed the init script for ya03:15
starscallingyeah thats EXACTLY what i want there dooglus ;)03:15
logikalmustard5,03:15
logikalHP photosmart 63503:15
mustard5logikal, this may be irrelevant but wonder whether you can mount the camera and simply browse the directory that contains the files and copy and paste them out03:15
dooglusstarscalling: setting up two displays will sort your maximise problem, but will break the drag-between-screens thing03:15
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logikalmustard5, the camera is mounted, I see no files.03:15
mustard5ah k03:15
logikalmustard5, the camera is mounted, I can't see the files.03:16
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junix-brhello all03:16
dooglusstarscalling: the options I use in xorg.conf are:03:16
dooglusOption          "MergedNonRectangular"  "on"03:16
starscallingwell masteh show me how to make it ... pimp my computer~!~03:16
dooglusOption          "MergedFB""auto"03:16
Falstiushow can I add directories to the "Places" menu (other than mounting them in /media)?03:16
junix-brI migrate to breezy and my keyboard in X don't work more.. :(03:16
logikalI get the error "could not read file"03:16
mustard5logikal, I'll see what I can find online....03:16
balzaccan someone knowledgeable about apt take a peek in #flood and tell me y/n for a specific command?03:16
jimcooncatjust downloaded wxglade in a tar.gz file. Where should I extract this to, maybe /usr/local/bin?03:16
Alchemist_starscaling - http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=176&p_created=1101836843&p_sid=Q2Oo8TSh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NTgmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0wJnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfZm5sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9bGludXg*&p_li=&p_topview=103:17
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jimcooncatits just a bunch of python scripts03:17
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edgarinHi all03:18
edgarinhowto share workbook of openoffice calc03:18
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edgarinin ms excel have this function03:18
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dooglusAlchemist_: nice URL :)03:18
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starscallingdooglus, having found the file [seems there are two: /etc/X11 and /usr/share/xresprobe]  i dont see that option.. just add to the conf ?03:19
jimcooncatedgarlin, putting it on a shared drive doesn't do what you want?03:19
edgarinno03:19
johnnyargh.. it wants some snmp package..03:19
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bimberijimcooncat: ubuntu has a package called python-wxglade (in universe)03:19
jimcooncatI've used Excel a long time but didn't know about a shared workbook03:19
jimcooncatthanks bimberi!!!!03:19
starscallingi appreciate the help btw :P03:19
spanglesontoastyay03:19
bimberijimcooncat: yw :)03:20
edgarinIn excel when you activate the function of the menu Tools --- share workbook03:20
spanglesontoastThe Hanso Foundation03:20
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edgarinthis file is shared!!03:20
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edgarinbut in open office i cant put this option03:20
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johnnybrb03:20
dooglusstarscalling: I put it in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the "Device" section03:20
prgAnother question for anyone: I have a script that initializes wpasupplicant.  I want it to run during boot.  Where does it have to be placed ?03:20
natexany takers? I need help playing dvds03:21
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MonkeyINAbaGW: GPG error: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>03:21
MonkeyINAbaG^^ does anyone know where i can find this key to import it?03:21
dooglusstarscalling: I think these kind of things are video-hardware specific03:21
MonkeyINAbaGprg) usually its /etc/rc.local03:22
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starscallingdooglus, did you change or add a second monitor in the conf?03:22
starscallingo ok03:23
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starscallingi think i see some of that in the link from Alchemist_ too ^^ [nvidia fx5200]  :)03:23
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andohHey.. Ah. Does ubuntu 5.10 support linksys admtek adm211 chipset? 802.11b rev ii..03:24
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prgMonkeyINAbag:  I've got no rc.local file.  If I make one will it be read upon startup?03:24
CaBlGuYgreetings again..03:24
Hobbsee!tell MonkeyINAbaG about gpgerr03:24
logikalHobbsee,03:24
logikalcan you recomend me a didital camera program03:24
Hobbseehi logikal03:24
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logikalwhat's up?03:24
mauriciobob2:  I am in synaptic, what else do I have to do to install amsn?03:24
CaBlGuYthat was a fsat setup..  and I LOVE  the live update..03:24
CaBlGuY:)03:24
andohanyone?03:24
Hobbseeas in, to read off yoru digital camera?  or one for editing?03:25
crimsunandoh: do you mean 8211?03:25
HobbseeCaBlGuY: yeah, it's nice and fast!03:25
logikalread03:25
CaBlGuYyes, that it is..03:25
jimcooncatedgarlin, I don't believe OOo has the spreadsheet sharing feature. According to this, the Excel sharing doesn't work very well, either. http://www.experts-exchange.com/Applications/MS_Office/Excel/Q_21529769.html Sorry, I'm not much help here.03:25
Elsanmauricio: You can just ge tthe "Add Applications" options in the GNOME menu03:25
CaBlGuYand it's doing fine with my video card..03:25
dooglusstarscalling: I've only got one Monitor and one Screen03:25
HobbseeCaBlGuY: yay!03:25
ElsanHas anyone here ever compiled Cedega CVS?03:25
starscallingo.o03:25
bimberiprg: either call it from /etd/init.d/bootmisc.sh or set up your own bootscript from a copy of /etc/init.d/skeleton03:25
starscallingi thought you had multiple lol03:25
CaBlGuYwill it recognise windows based drives, IE: if I have a slave with windowz dir.'s on it..03:25
CaBlGuY?03:25
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HobbseeCaBlGuY: if you add it to the fstab, yes03:26
icemanwhere can you place icon's to install them in ubuntu gnome ?03:26
kevogodElsan, I have tried on multiple occasions, but every time I try, I receive errors.03:26
Hobbsee!tell CaBlGuY about mount03:26
kevogodElsan, (during compiling)03:26
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Hobbsee!tell CaBlGuY about windowsdrives03:26
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bimberiandoh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards03:26
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mustard5logikal, the only thing I could find was a bugzilla report on a different HP camera model ......  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1213203:26
jimcooncatedgarlin, we use Access at our office for this kind of sharing, but there are small databases you can use with Ubuntu for a shared backend. I think sqlite might be useful.03:26
Elsankevogod: I can't even get past reading the licence, I read it, agree and blabla and can't press "l" to agree03:26
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logikalwell03:26
logikalmustard5, Im trying GTKan03:27
logikalGTkam03:27
mustard5k03:27
logikaland all it does is break03:27
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logikalit seems we are having a talking problem03:27
logikalit finds it03:27
threeseaswhere might I find the kernal sources for ubuntu latest?03:27
mustard5logikal, perhaps you may have a bug too03:27
logikalbut cant initilize03:27
CaBlGuYok  so, what happens if I just connect the the drive as slave, and reboot? I still have to manualy mount it?03:28
Elsankevogod: Have you gotten past that step?03:28
zblachwhats the best way to archive some mp3s?03:28
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kevogodElsan, Yes, I have.03:28
naliothzblach: burn them to cd?03:28
Taken_By_KristinHey everybody.03:28
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Taken_By_KristinI just got a USB adapter for my wireless network.  Is anybody willing to help me out?  Pleeease?03:28
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Rev-MarcI want to setup a Ubuntu box to file share and also serve as a database server, I have the file server done but how do I set it up for the database?03:28
naliothubotu: tell Taken_By_Kristin about wireless03:29
bimberiCaBlGuY: until you have an entry in /etc/fstab, yes03:29
CaBlGuYok, let me hook it up and I'll be right back..03:29
Rev-Marcdoes it have MYSql server already?03:29
CaBlGuY;-)03:29
CaBlGuYthanks guys..03:29
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iceman#flood03:29
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mustard5logikal, I would be investigating whether you have discovered a bug and enquire about what process you need to use to file a bug report in the hope that it will be fixed03:30
bimberiRev-Marc: not by default, but it's available for install03:30
prgbimberi: Thanks, I just skimmed through those. If I call the other script from bootmisc.sh, does it matter where the file is placed?  Can it be in /root?03:30
mauricioI am still working trying to get MSN... what should I do?  I just installed ubuntu, please be patient03:30
Elsankevogood: You just opened it in Firefox and then read it and agreed and pressed "l"?03:30
Hobbseemauricio: try running gaim03:30
Rev-Marcwhere do I get it and find out how to install it?03:30
Hobbseemauricio: then tell it to connect to your msn account03:30
kevogodElsan, Uh, No.03:30
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mauriciohow do I start gaim?03:30
bimberiprg: /root would be ok, /usr/local/bin (or sbin) would be more "standard" i guess03:30
Toma-mauricio: a dedicated msn client is amsn. its quite good.03:30
Taken_By_KristinThanks ubotu.03:30
zblachnalioth, its 1.1 gig of music, from the same cd collection03:30
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zblachso i'm looking to compress & save03:31
icemansomeone peek at flood ... what cat i get those repo's03:31
icemanrepository errors ... help03:31
bimberiRev-Marc: use synaptic ...03:31
prgbimberi:  thanks03:31
bimberiubotu tell Rev-Marc about synaptic03:31
bimberiprg: yw :)03:31
logikalHobbsee,03:31
logikalI would recomend him xopete03:31
logikalgaim isnt for MSN03:31
mauriciowhere can I start amsn or gaim?03:31
Elsanmauricio: I'm using aMSN right now, to add it, go in the main menu -> Applications -> Add Applications -> Internet -> More applications -> aMSN, check it03:31
Elsankevogod: Then what did you do?03:32
crimsunlogikal: gaim can connect to MSN03:32
robotgeeklogikal: yes it is03:32
naliothzblach: i dont understand "archive" zip them up, burn them to dvd-r ?03:32
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Elsankevogod: I think I got past03:32
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bimberiRev-Marc: once you have enabled the universe repository, you can use synaptic to install the mysql-server (for 4.0) or mysql-server-4.1 package03:32
Hobbseelogikal: did you mean kopete?  gaim connects to msn last time i checked, and this guy probably has gnome on his computer, and not kde, as he just installed ubuntu03:32
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Toma-anyone tried amsn with tk/tcl 8.5? its so sxc.03:33
CaBlGuYone more thing b 4 I reboot, shuold I install ALL  the updates? It says theres like 116..03:33
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HobbseeCaBlGuY: which did you install?  hoary or breezy?  and you may as well03:34
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gnomefreakthere there is now my list of breezy sources on my site this way you can send them there since they are mine i know they work and they will be updated as i get the updated ones.03:34
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zblachnalioth, no dvd burner. any good compression progs? i remember something called uharc from a game03:34
mauricioI have ubuntu 5.04... I can't find "add applications" in here03:34
CaBlGuYUmmm  I dunno, what are u refering to??03:34
Elsankevogood: It's like my "l" does not work :/03:34
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zblachmauricio, why not move to breezy?03:34
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naliothzblach: unfortunately, mp3s are pretty much compressed as much as they're gonna get. you can try bzip203:35
Elsankevogod: I am stupid. It's 1 :D03:35
Rev-MarcOK I get some kind of errors about addresses or something when running Synaptic03:35
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zblachnalioth, thanks03:35
bimberiRev-Marc: press Reload and see if they persist03:35
alpha232ok why is it when i want to uninstall Evolution, is it saying it will also uninstall ubuntu-desktop?03:36
HobbseeCaBlGuY: which did you install? ubuntu 5.04, or 5.10?  5.10 is newer03:36
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chihau_i have ubuntu in my ibook but i cant play wmv files...03:36
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zblachanother question. i remember back in win i could get accents by going Alt+####, can i do that in breezy03:36
zblach?03:36
icemanok how to mount a dos partition03:36
CaBlGuY5.04 but it did the live update when I installed03:36
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israelanyone know how I can install XEmacs?  I just installed Ubuntu a couple of days ago and am still figuring it out03:36
imc_Hey, anyone know how I can change the DENIED message when someone botches the password on a locked screensaver?03:36
bimberialpha232: because ubuntu-desktop depends on evolution03:36
Toma-!tell chihau_ about w32codecs03:36
HobbseeCaBlGuY: right, get the updates, then you can dist-upgrade to breezy afterwards if you wish03:36
robotgeekchihau_: the codecs are only for x86, not ppc03:36
CaBlGuYok thanks..03:36
CaBlGuYbbiab03:36
robotgeekToma-: nope, that doesn't work03:36
imc_!tell imc_ about w32codexs03:36
Toma-really....03:37
icemanAnyone able to walk me through mounting a DOS partition03:37
alpha232bimberi, but there is no reason for it to. Evolution is groupware (ala Outlook) no need for my desktop envrionment to hinge on that, sounds like windows needing IE03:37
jjdhmpf03:37
robotgeekToma-: not on a PPC machine03:37
mustard5iceman, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions03:37
jjdthis isn't a good start...03:37
imc_Anyone know how I can change the DENIED message when someone botches the password on a locked screensaver?03:37
bimberialpha232: it doesn't *hinge* on it, ubuntu-desktop is just a set of what ubuntu considers to be a good desktop.03:37
starscallingdooglus, i suppose i need to log out and back in to get this to go... or do i need to restart comp would you think?03:37
thesilentkillerHoary guide says do "apt-get install azureus" to install the BitTorrent client Azureus. I am using Breezy and I am not able to find that package. any clues?03:38
Toma-i didnt know codecs were arch dependant?03:38
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starscallingthesilentkiller, one sec03:38
NCLife/whois *^:;_03:38
Xenguyzblach: that is a good question - I'm searching for some kind of solution to this issue, so let me know if you hear any useful tips please :-)03:38
bimberiisrael: install xemacs21 (from universe)03:38
jjdUhm, I was copying files and the copying program thingy froze and I cant close it03:38
OneSeventeen___are there server logs to show what all I've been doing via SSH?03:38
NCLifeO.O sorry03:38
starscalling!ubontu tell thesilentkiller about sources03:38
robotgeekToma-: they are, unfortunately03:38
ubotustarscalling: I don't know, could you explain it?03:38
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OneSeventeen___(I want to show my boss that I've been working all night so I can get paid :D )03:38
starscalling<ubotu> I heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)03:38
alpha232bimberi, right.... well then why is it going to uninstall my entire ubuntu desktop then just to freeup the space used by somthing I don't want to use. Personally i don't need it, i would rather use thunderbird03:38
Toma-i guess billy boy didnt think about the ppc when they made them :(03:38
Xenguyjjd: xkill  ?03:38
Rev-Marccan I use RPM's in Ubuntu?03:39
mauriciozblach, I have to find first where to enable amsn or breezy; where do I have to go?03:39
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DiscipulusRev-Marc, no03:39
starscallingthesilentkiller, get that one there... then toss in /etc/apt/sourcesthingie and uncomment the last line as well.03:39
Toma-chihau_: http://www2.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/ try looking thu here for some codecs for ppc03:39
naliothRev-Marc: you CAN but it is highly not advisable03:39
israelthx, bimberi, how do I get that?  I tried uncommenting the 'universe' lines in sources.lst, and got a 'stat: no such file or directory'03:39
bimberialpha232: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, uninstalling it doesn't take away its other dependencies03:39
XenguyRev-Marc: best not to unless it is really necessary - what software?03:39
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israelwhen I started up synaptic03:39
titaniumis it just my imagination or does breezy load a lot slower than hoary03:39
bimberiisrael: hit the Reload button03:39
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icemanok, now how to guide wine to run diablo from the dos Partition ?03:40
starscallingi personally use the ubuntu java so i didnt even do the sun one... but restricted formats is another place to check out :)03:40
prga question about synaptic package manger:  If I externally download and compile a program and install it with make, can i somehow register it with synaptic to get it out later or has entropy increaesd in my machine?03:40
kevogodwine /path/to/diablo/03:40
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Rev-MarcWell on the MYSQl channel they said there  tare RPM's for it03:40
Toma-prg: no03:40
bimberiprg: yes, use checkinstall when the install tells you to do "make install"03:41
XenguyRev-Marc: pfff, there are debs for it too :-)03:41
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titaniumis there a way to make ubuntu re-load /etc/fstab aside from rebooting?03:41
Belutztitanium, sudo mount -a03:41
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XenguyRev-Marc: apt-cache search mysql* |less03:41
bimberiprg: you'll need the checkinstall package03:41
jjdXenguy, thanks :>03:41
titaniumBelutz: nice, thanks03:41
thesilentkillerstarscalling: thanks. i will check it out. i added universe and multiverse repositories using synaptic. is what you are suggesting different from that?03:41
prgbimberi: is it available through the universe repo?03:41
Xenguyjjd: yw03:41
icemankevogod Got diablo located on a Dos harddrive ... hda2 ....03:41
XenguyRev-Marc: I meant -> dpkg -l mysql* |less03:42
israelthanks, bimberi, that worked great!  (downloading now)03:42
bimberiprg: you bet :)03:42
mauricioI found it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Thank you!03:42
starscallinglook at the link... its got more repositories..03:42
prgbimberi: thanks again!03:42
bimberiisrael: great, yw :)03:42
bimberiprg: yw :)03:42
mauricioplease forgive my ignorance03:42
alpha232how can i move my system from using ESS to ALSA?03:42
thesilentkillerstarscalling: k03:42
Xenguy.oO(you are forgiven my sun ;-)03:43
icemanhow to point wine to hda2/Diablo ii/Diablo ii.exe03:43
ceruleatanyone suggest a good tool for splitting > 700 MB of files (pix, ~2MB ea) across multiple CD's in a 'smart' way? Preferably GUI (i.e. wife-friendly).03:43
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mebsduse windows for diablo03:43
Xenguymebsd: bah03:43
icemanmebsd Winblows sucks03:43
Toma-iceman: try hda2/Diablo\ ii/Diablo\ ii.exe03:43
Rev-MarcThank you again03:43
mebsdplaying game sucks03:43
Toma-better yet, type Diab then hit tab03:44
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zblachhrm. is this typed rightly?03:45
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icemanToma nope ...03:45
zblachstrange. 'twas right aligned there03:45
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Toma-mebsd: games are awesome on linux :) i just played bf1942 for 2 hours this morning with no problems03:45
Toma-iceman: what is the exact path ay diablo?03:46
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Toma-*ay=to03:46
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icemanToma how to locate hda203:46
Toma-iceman: where did you mount it to?03:46
mebsdbut config a windows emulator to play a windows game on linux and declare to hate windows, that is pathetic03:46
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Toma-i dont hate windows...?03:47
icemanToma where ever wiki page said ... i am still lost in locating all this ..03:47
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Toma-iceman: are you using breezy?03:47
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icemanToma yea .. heres the link i followed ...  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions03:48
Xenguymebsd: I'm not sure you know what you are saying :-/03:48
Toma-mebsd: besides, playing a game that was written for windows doesnt mean im endorsing windows03:48
Toma-iceman: it mounts automagically on boot anyway03:48
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icemantoma seems to be the way that works ... now guiding wine to it03:49
dmlinuxiceman you get wine working?03:49
hippieI need help. I'm new to Ubuntu.03:49
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Toma-you may need to cd to /media/hda2/Diablo ii forst03:49
Toma-*first03:49
Xenguyhippie: ask away03:49
Toma-hippie: ask!03:49
icemandmlinux finaly installed x86 ... now just to point wine to a auto mounted windows / dos partition03:49
dmlinuxtoma- you can run D2 with wine ?  :O03:49
dmlinuxiceman ah hehe :P03:50
hippiealright.... i am building a computer... and i just wanna use a dialup for it... but, my win modem doesn't work. got advice?03:50
Razor-Xhmmm, a quick poll, how many people out there use non-mutt MUAs?03:50
dmlinuxiceman im running off of AMD64 version with no probs : o03:50
dooglusRazor-X: me03:50
tritiumRazor-X: please don't conduct polls here03:50
kevogodI've run Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne with WINE and it worked pretty damn good. I'm sure Diablo II runs like a champ.03:50
icemanHda2 is the partiton ...03:50
Razor-Xtritium: no polls here?03:50
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Razor-Xtritium: mmmkay03:50
Razor-Xdooglus: what do you use?03:50
bobnhippie, it depends on which one.03:50
dooglusRazor-X: I use 'vm'03:50
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jsubl2hippie linmodem.org03:50
bobni use mutt03:50
Razor-Xdooglus: cool03:51
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hippiethank you.03:51
icemanDiablo II is the folder on hda203:51
Xenguyhippie: winmodems are not really compatible with Linux generally... but it seems to me I have seen workarounds in the distant past03:51
Toma-dmlinux: http://appdb.winehq.org/ its the top application on the list ;)03:51
hippieand another problem...03:51
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Toma-you can ever run Wow on it03:51
jsubl2bobn lol03:51
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EarthenI'm just setting up a new hard drive, I want windows and Ubuntu on duel boot are there any sugestions on what way I should setup the partitions?03:51
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comradevikhi03:52
bobnknew there was a good resource - used it once to gaet a windmodem going in debian.03:52
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Razor-XEarthen: the Ubuntu installer can take care of most of it, although if your Windows partition is an NTFS one, I suggest allocating at least free space for Ubuntu03:52
hippiethe next thing... i installed ubuntu onto my dad's winXP machine... partitioned it for 20gb... and now i don't have a bootloader to GET TO linux... help?03:52
adriyel__bobn, are you bob2?03:52
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comradeviki have a really big problem.. i just had to do a system restore on windows and now my GRUB is gone03:52
adriyel__hippie, did you install it to the master boot record?03:52
comradeviki'm on the liveCD03:52
alpha232is there a thinner XWM that still has the tie-in with apps being installed?03:52
hippieadriyel__: huh?03:53
icemanwell... wine "or" Diablo is attempting to load the CD rom... now how to fix that03:53
bobnno.  pretty sure I've never useed theat nick.03:53
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thesilentkillerEarthen: If you are planning to share data between Ubuntu and XP, then you should think about that too. I am struggling with that. so others might be able to help you out03:53
adriyel__comradevik, you'll need to reinstall grub to the master boot record03:53
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comradevikhow do i do that03:53
adriyel__I'm seeing a recurring theme here03:53
Xenguyalpha232: xfce4 is one alternative, depending on your needs03:53
adriyel__ummm, never had to do it myself...03:53
EarthenRazor-X I was going to partition with PQ magic I was wondering how was the best way to set things up as what partition c should come first second  etc...03:53
comradevikis it possible tho03:53
adriyel__oh yeah03:53
adriyel__I just can't think of how03:53
Razor-XEarthen: for data sharing, I suggest a simple FAT partition in between, or maybe even a ReiserFS intermediary if you want to use ReiserFS in Windows03:53
bimbericomradevik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows03:53
bobnI like fluxbox myself when RAM or CPU are short03:54
hippieadriyel__: i'm not quite sure... i added a partition and put ubuntu onto it.03:54
Earthenthesilentkiller well I can mount read only thw windows partitions03:54
adriyel__bobn, ditto03:54
comradeviktnx!03:54
Razor-XEarthen: no point, really, simply resize your NTFS partition to allocate enough free space that Ubuntu needs, and you're set03:54
icemanWell, Diablo cannot find the CD rom... how to fix that ...anyone please help03:54
adriyel__hippie, yes but you've got to have grub (the bootloader) installed to the master boot record...03:54
Razor-Xbobn: I use ratpoison all the time :P03:54
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hippieadriyel__ how?03:54
alpha232Xenguy, it just sucks on a 700mhz Celeron03:54
thesilentkillerRazor-X: Earthen: I created a FAT32 partition using Windows..I am having trouble trying to read/write with Ubuntu and XP03:54
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bobnRazor-X: I tried ratpoison - a little *too* basic.  But that is certainly light.03:55
adriyel__hippie, it gave you the option to install it to the MBR during the install, you prolly chose no03:55
Razor-Xthesilentkiller: FAT16 is better for an intermediary, I think03:55
icemanHow to tell wine the CD drive is there ... HELP03:55
EarthenI was thinking to set it up like this Windows "NTFS" ! swap 1 gig ! ext2 ! then a fat 32 for sharing data03:55
hippiethanks.03:55
adriyel__hippie, sarcasm?03:55
Bachus9000I've followed the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75443 to recompile the kernel with swsup2 support and now ndiswrapper does not work.  When I insert my wireless card, the ndiswrapper module is loaded as normal, but when I try to assign an IP to the machine dhclient just goes in an loop.03:55
bobnHey anybody here used the LTSP in 5.10?03:55
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thesilentkillerRazor-X: any specific reason why not 32? Just curious03:55
hippieadriyel__ i'll check it out and probably reinstall.03:55
kevogodiceman, Does it automatically mount on the Desktop as "Diablo II, X##@"?03:55
Razor-Xbobn: well, I have no real use for any of the stuff most other desktops use, I view my videos maximized, my console session is maximized, all my games are maximized03:55
adriyel__oh, k03:55
adriyel__hippie, glad to be of help03:55
Razor-Xthesilentkiller: just plays better, and is less ``fat'', IMO03:55
adriyel__TESTING CS:S WITH CEDEGA!03:56
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hippieadriyel__ yea... i just went to a linux group meeting in st. pete, fl.03:56
Razor-XEarthen: if you want to set everything up by hand, then, you're going to only want to do a complex setup, and you shouldn't use ext2 anymore, ya know03:56
thesilentkillerRazor-X: maybe i will reformat the partition and give it a shot. cuz, when i created a file in FAT32 with ubuntu, and tried to open it in XP, it cribbed03:56
bobnI'm getting a house (fingers crossed) and want a machine in every room with as little maintenance as possible.03:56
EarthenRazor-X why not ext2?03:56
hippieadriyel__: so i'm really getting involved tonight.03:56
icemankevogod set a link to Diablo ii.exe to use wine... but it starts to load, and says "Diablo II was unable to locate your CD-ROM Drive. " ect .. ect ...03:56
Razor-XEarthen: because ext2 doesen't have journaled support, which ext3 does, unless you have a specific reason for not needing journaling03:57
bobnRazor-X: I often operate the same way.  BUt I have no averdion to the mouse, nor to sometimes using un=maximized windows.03:57
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benplauti've got no sound in Quake 2, using SDL... any suggestions?03:57
EarthenRazor-X O sorry doh! I ment to type Ext303:57
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icemankevogod got a Cancel and retry button... but how to tell wine where the cd is03:57
jjdAny of you here completely on linux not using any windows, not even wine?03:57
slyjabcan anyone tell me how i can open a movie file with vlc by just clicking on the file instead of doing it through the vlc panel.. when i try to right click>open with other application>and choose vlc it give the following error: could not add application to application database03:57
Razor-Xbobn: I don't like the mouse only beacuse it's a foot away from my keyboard :P03:57
cevizogludrat03:57
Razor-XEarthen: ahhh, yeah03:57
natexjjd, me03:58
Razor-XEarthen: you're going to want to setup a specific /usr, /bin, and /home if you want to set it up manually03:58
iceman??  install wine tools ? ?03:58
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icemanwinetools03:58
cevizoglu!test03:58
ubotuCrashed.03:58
jjdHow is it working out? I got fed up with windows so now I'm trying to boycott it completely03:58
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cevizoglu!geez03:59
ubotucevizoglu: Syntax error in line 103:59
CarlFKHP 810c inkjet - is there a way to adjust how red red it?03:59
dracflamlochow can i default the add applications thing to open the advanced mode all the time03:59
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bobnRazor-X: I agre that a good UI minimizes the need to leave the keyboard.   anything that doesn't make the alt-tab sequence immediately available generally goes by the wayside in my book.03:59
EarthenRazor-X well I don't really want to do it all manully I was just wondering mostly On the setup of the partitions what should come first and soforth or does it matter03:59
mauricioHi... Do you know how can I create a web page?03:59
thesilentkillercan someone tell me what i have to add to the sources.list to install the BitTorrent client Azureus?03:59
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OneSeventeen___does ubuntu log user activity somewhere?03:59
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CaBlGuYok, I got the windowz drive set as slave now..03:59
CarlFKmauricio - check out nvu.com03:59
Razor-XEarthen: matters not03:59
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CaBlGuYso, how do i mount it?03:59
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Razor-Xbobn: ahhh, so was I :P03:59
bobnOneSeventeen___: havwe you looked in /var/log ?04:00
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Razor-Xbobn: but, Alt+Tab is useless for me, because of the fractional-second delay I get04:00
Spidycan anyone explain to me how, on the Live CD version of Ubuntu, for PowerPC, I'd mount a hard drive partition?04:00
Razor-Xeasier for me to use C-t than it is to use Alt+Tab, for that reason04:00
mushtaqhi is it possible to see all the ip address on the network from the ubuntu server ?04:00
Hobbsee!tell Spidy about mount04:00
natexjjd, works great, the only thing I miss is support for my printer and scanner (both canons, not linux's fault)04:00
EarthenRazor-X what format Ext3 or Riser FS ? what one is better04:00
Hobbsee!tell CaBlGuY about windowsdrives04:00
cevizogluEarthen, depends on what you plan to do with the format04:00
natexEarthen, both fine for most users needs04:01
Razor-XEarthen: depends on your needs, ReiserFS is better for a lot of small files, it's faster, and more robust, but ext3 is good for a basic system04:01
naliothubotu: tell Spidy about ntfs04:01
bobnRazor-X: you must be young.  I'm terriblky impatitent ant alt-tab delay bothers me not.04:01
naliothSpidy: read that, it will answer your question04:01
XenguyEarthen: unless you know what you are doing, recommend you stick with ext304:01
OneSeventeen___bobn yeah, but I can't tell what I should be looking at.  I'm SSHing in to a server at work, and just want to see if it has start and stop times somewhere04:01
cevizogluEarthen, I agree with Xenguy04:01
Razor-Xbobn: yes, I am young, :P04:01
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Razor-Xbobn: i'm probably one of the youngest in the channel, I think04:01
mushtaqhi is it possible to see all the ip address on the network from the ubuntu server ?04:01
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EarthenOK thanks guys04:01
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HobbseeRazor-X: how old are you?04:01
bobnOneSeventeen___:  /var/log/messages04:01
Razor-XHobbsee: 1504:01
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mebsdkids..04:02
HobbseeRazor-X: yeah, that probably wins...you beat me by 2 years...04:02
bobnmushtaq: fping04:02
Hobbseelol04:02
Razor-Xbobn: really, I hate delay :P04:02
aeon17xRazor-X: and you're using Linux already? Cool.04:02
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bobnholy cow!  I'm 50.04:02
Razor-Xaeon17x: I've been using it since 11, it's been a sweet ride since04:02
starscallingwell04:02
mebsdlinux has alot adult contents04:02
Razor-Xbobn: o_O, you're older than my dad (but not by much, though)04:02
mebsdfirewall, kernel,04:02
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bobnRazor-X: very cool to be into this so young.04:02
starscallingim off to test up my dual monitors .. if you dont see me right away i messed up again XD04:02
mushtaqbobn is it default04:02
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natexmebsd, mount/finger04:03
bobnmushtaq: probably not.  have you tried apt-get or synaptic to look for it?04:03
icemanok... how to Guide wine to my CDROM04:03
OneSeventeen___bobn, that just shows different times with "--MARK--" as the message (about 4 or 5 times each hour, even when I wasn't on the server)... I'm guessing I should have turned on SSH logging somewhere04:03
mauriciocarlfk - How do I install the downloaded program?04:03
mebsdlol04:03
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alpha232whats the url for the codecs?04:03
mushtaqbobn no i havent04:04
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naliothmauricio: was your program not available using synaptic?04:04
aeon17x!tell alpha232 about codecs04:04
Razor-XI have to say, Linux has matured in leaps-and-bounds in the last 3 years04:04
bobnOneSeventeen___: /var/log/secure may have login info.  Check /etc/syslong.conf to see what's bveing logged and how.04:04
Razor-XUbuntu really represents that -- you use Linux the way you want to, you can use it all mouse, full GUI, or no mouse minimal GUI, hardware overhead is severely decreased, Linux is gaining great amounts of speed04:05
bobnmushtaq: apt-get install fping04:05
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israelI recently installed ubuntu and I'm trying to get Xorg configured properly for my ATI Radeon 920004:05
bobnmushtaq: I don't know that it will work but that's where I start.  be root when you do it.04:05
ghmkfyfyi have a radeon 920004:05
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mushtaqok bobn but as i read info for fping it says it is to send to the number of ip's together04:05
OneSeventeen___bobn, hmmm... just checked auth.log, figured that would give me login and logout times... and it looks like a single IP has been trying out tons of various names...04:05
mushtaqbobn, through a file may be04:05
Toma-Razor-X: just wait till Vista comes out, linux will gain even more momentum ;)04:05
mauricionalioth, I didn't find a program to make a web page....  I found the program to use msn :)04:05
OneSeventeen___is there a way to block IPs from remote access?04:05
something_elsedoes anyone have monodevelop0.8/04:06
kevogodiceman, I asked does the Diablo II CD icon automatically appear on your desktop when you put it in your drive?04:06
Razor-XToma-: yeah, if anything, Windows is going by the wayside, IMO04:06
mushtaqbut i need it to check what ips are on my network04:06
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icemanGot winetools here, is there a way to Config the CD rom from here04:06
israelok, ghmkfyfy, thx.  X11 is working, but when I try a graphics game like BZFlag, I get a frame update every second or so04:06
Razor-Xhmmm, anyways, i'm going to try out an MUA now04:06
mushtaqbobn, thanks i will try thanks for the help04:06
bobnmushtaq:   fping -a -A -g first_address last_address04:06
naliothmauricio: there are several programs for writing web pages04:06
icemankevogod no , just the cd icon04:06
bobnthat does a range.04:06
naliothubotu: tell mauricio about repos04:06
natexRazor-X, WINFS is almost here! :004:06
Razor-Xnatex: *gasp*04:06
naliothmauricio: enable universe and multiverse repos04:06
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Razor-Xnatex: that there is scary stuff :P04:07
bobnmushtaq: fping -a -A -g 192.168.1.0/2404:07
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Toma-actually, winfs has been droped from vista, last i heard04:07
bobnthat does a whole network.04:07
natexRazor-X, vaporware04:07
Razor-XToma-: as have I, and MSH is also dropped, I hear04:07
ajordaowhat package i need to install to have the splashscreen when loading ubuntu ?04:07
aeon17xajordao: try gtweakui.04:07
Toma-ajordao: you using breezy?04:07
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ajordaoToma-, yes04:08
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Toma-usplash04:08
slyjabcan anyone tell me how i can open a movie file with vlc by just clicking on the file instead of doing it through the vlc panel.. when i try to right click>open with other application>and choose vlc it give the following error: could not add application to application database04:08
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crimsunslyjab: drag 'n' drop it04:08
jjdWhat is the "universe" and "multiverse" thing?04:08
icemankevogod would i want /media/cdrom0  pr /dev/hdc .. or another choice .. how to find that out and set it in wine tools04:08
ajordaoToma-, usplash already in newer version04:08
ghmkfyfyhow do i read a ntfs partition from ubuntu?04:08
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bobnveyr carefully04:09
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Toma-ajordao: then you should already have a splash screen on boot...04:09
aeon17x!tell jjd about repositories04:09
naliothjjd: thousands of programs more than you have by default04:09
wickedpuppy!ntfs04:09
mauricionalioth, I couldn't find universe or multiverse in synaptic04:09
ubotufrom memory, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:09
ajordaoToma-, no i haven't04:09
mushtaqthanks bobn is it possible to get in reply the dns names for the following users ?04:09
naliothmauricio: did you get the priv msg from ubotu ?04:09
slyjabcrimsun: now i feel like an idiot... thanks.....lol04:09
Netslayerhow long do orders take to go through on ubuntu's site for free cds? ie the date it shows it got sent to the date i get it?04:09
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ghmkfyfyits about 8 weeks right?04:09
JimH_can someone tell me how to get shoutcast to work on the LIVECD04:09
bimberijjd: universe is unsupported (by canonical) free software, multiverse is unsupported non-free software04:09
natexghmkfyfy, modprobe ntfs, then mount the partition04:09
ghmkfyfyhow do i mount?04:10
mauricionalioth,  yes... I didn't see it before04:10
bobnmushtaq: for one or 2 use nslookup.  for abunch, check the fping man page.04:10
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natexghmkfyfy, man mount04:10
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Toma-ajordao: is there the word "splash" in the kernel arguments in /boot/grub/menu.lst ?04:10
bobn!tell bobn aboput ubotu04:11
bobn!help04:11
Hobbsee!ubotu04:11
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:11
mushtaqthanks bobn ;)04:11
ajordaoToma-, i know why :)04:11
ajordaoToma-, i'm with lilo04:11
Toma-oh no :(04:11
ajordaobecause grub doesnt work here04:11
bobnmushtaq: no problem - hope it helped.04:11
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Toma-should still work tho04:11
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ghmkfyfyok thanks04:11
mauricionalioth, gracias...04:12
Toma-put "splash" in the kernel arguments in /etc/lilo.conf04:12
naliothbobn: you need to be registered to have ubotu help you04:12
OneSeventeen___it looks like someone keeps trying various ports and various usernames to log into my server, how do I block IP's from accessing my server?04:12
icemanDang dang ... just guiding Diablo and Wine to find tha cd rom04:12
naliothmauricio: da nada04:12
ajordaoToma-, ok04:12
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bobnmushtaq: nmap may have some of these features too, but fping is optimized wor what you asked about.04:12
sizzamanyone know the command to restart the Gnome sound server04:12
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JimH_can someone tell me how to get shoutcast to work on the LIVECD04:12
bobnnalioth: resgistered as in IRC nickserv?04:12
ajordaoToma-, just "splash" ?04:13
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Toma-sizzam: esd &04:13
naliothbobn: correct04:13
Hobbseebobn: yes04:13
Toma-ajordao: yep04:13
ajordaoToma-, ok thx04:13
ajordaoi'll try04:13
Toma-its also nice to put "quiet" in there04:13
ajordaobrb04:13
sizzamToma- what if ALSA is my default in the media selector, would it be alsa &  ?04:13
Toma-gets rid of the yucky kernel output ;)04:13
bobnactually it seems to respond to me in a pm.04:13
Toma-sizzam: nope.04:13
Toma-sizzam: thats just telling esd to use alsa04:13
ajordaoToma-, Unrecognized token "splash" at or above line 10 in file '/etc/lilo.conf'04:14
Toma-hmm.04:14
CaBlGuYok, got the drive mounted..  thanks hobbsee04:14
CaBlGuY:)04:14
sizzamToma- thanks04:14
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Hobbseeno problems CaBlGuY04:14
Toma-ajordao: can you spam me the line?04:14
bobnbut not to the help command - just said "target invalid?" anfd listed 71 topics04:14
CaBlGuYok now, my music player keeps saying unexpected end of stream while listeing to online streams..04:14
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ajordaoToma-, it just was that i pasted04:15
CaBlGuYany ideas?04:15
icemanwhats the wine channel ?04:15
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hoslerAll i get is static when trying to play mp3s in xmms. Help!04:15
iceman#winehq04:15
Toma-the line you edited04:15
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hosler!mp304:15
ubotu[mp3]  a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)04:15
CaBlGuYI'm using rythmbox04:15
Toma-ajordao: the line you edited in lilo.conf04:15
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bobn!tell bobn listkeys04:16
bobn!tell bobn lart04:16
JimH_I tried rythmbox but it doesnt work04:16
bastardkestrelim wondering, should my cpu go up to 100% when opening a browser?04:16
thesilentkilleri need to install eclipse. i am seeing mixed opinions about whether to download it directly from eclipse.org, or use synaptic. any suggestions?04:16
naliothbobn: identify yourself and talk to ubotu in a /msg04:16
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Toma-thesilentkiller: synaptic04:17
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hoslerAll i get is static when trying to play mp3s in xmms. Help!04:17
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CaBlGuYso, what should I use for stremaing radio?04:17
crimsunthesilentkiller: if you only need to use eclipse by itself, just install eclipse-platform using Synaptic04:17
thesilentkillerToma-: are you using eclipse continuously? cuz I've heard people complain that eclipse gives errors later on....long after you start using it.04:17
grodiushey my breezy update is going at like 600 b/s are all the servers that slow?04:17
Toma-thesilentkiller: not using eclipse.04:18
thesilentkillercrimsun: "use eclipse by itself", as against?04:18
ajordaoToma-, so..04:18
thesilentkillerToma-: okie.....04:18
Toma-thesilentkiller: thats got nothing to do with where you download it fom tho.04:18
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CaBlGuYgrodius, I just got done getting all the updates (113) and mine wasn't that slow..04:18
hosler!java04:18
ubotuwell, java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb04:18
hosler!javadeb04:18
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bastardkestreldoes anyone know if 100% cpu usage when opening a browser is normal04:18
thesilentkillerToma-: What ive heard is that the packaging of eclipse for apt-get is kinda screwed up....i dont know the details cuz i know foot about packaging04:18
crimsunthesilentkiller: as opposed to using eclipse in addition to plugins, etc.04:18
naliothhosler: ?? careful where you point that thing04:19
CaBlGuYbastard, no, that's not normal..04:19
SpidyDoes anyone know how I'd  mount a partition on PowerPC?04:19
CaBlGuYmight want to reboot04:19
Toma-ajordao: gimme the line from lilo.conf... eg "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash"04:19
jasonbpwd04:19
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mustard5hosler, have you checked your preferences in xmms for which output plugin your are using?04:19
ajordaoToma-, its in your pvt04:19
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soporificls04:19
bastardkestrelCaBlGuy: it goes it only for a moment04:19
hoslermustard5: yeah, im using esd04:19
thesilentkillercrimson: u mean, adding plugins to eclipse?04:19
naliothSpidy: did you get your PM from ubotu?04:19
Toma-i never got anything in pvt..04:19
Spidyyes, I got it.04:20
mustard5hosler, have you tried changing it?04:20
sighey guys, is there a place where I can download the w32codecs via apt ?04:20
hoslermustard5: yeah04:20
Razor-Xthesilentkiller: just a tip, are you familiar with tab-complete?04:20
naliothSpidy: that script will take care of your mounting04:20
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sigapt-get install http://place.com ?04:20
CaBlGuYbastardkestrel well, if it's only for a second, then it's not biggie, if it stayed @ 100% then, it would be an issue04:20
soporifichello does anyone know how to execute a file.pl extension i believe it's perl script04:20
thesilentkillerRazor-X: yeah, i am. why?04:20
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ParisiIs anyone here on RR broadband?04:20
bimberisig: /mst ubotu w32codecs04:20
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hoslerParisi: yes04:20
Toma-soporific: "perl perlscript.pl"04:20
naliothParisi: only about half of us04:20
sigbimberi: ?04:20
Razor-Xthesilentkiller: because you typed crimsun's name in, that's not near lazy enough :P04:20
bimberisig: oops /msg04:20
bastardkestrelCaBlGuy:  its a centrino notebook so maybe thats normal04:21
soporificthanks toma04:21
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ParisiDoes everyone else's upload cap suck? or is that just me.04:21
bastardkestrelCaBlGuy:   it does go back down to 3%04:21
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ParisiI find it barely adequate.04:21
Spidynalioth: I never got a script that would do my mounting for me...and the howto didn't work.04:21
Toma-ajordao: im not getting anything in priv msgs...04:21
h0sl3rParisi: mine is fine04:21
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Parisih0sl3r what is yours?04:21
h0sl3rover 100 kb04:21
ParisiI get 45 kb/s04:21
ParisiThats bad.04:22
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thesilentkillerRazor-X: what the heck!! nice find Razor-X. That was one type where i was impatient to get it right with tab-complete and i decided to type it myself!!! and i went wrong. aaah!04:22
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naliothSpidy: the script is called winmac_fstab04:22
CaBlGuYbastardkestrel yeah, I wouldnm't worry aboutnit to much, if it's a notebook, you should b fine04:22
bastardkestreli managed to correct some of my laptop errors by removing glx04:22
Moppinanyone have a good repository that has liblame-dev ?04:22
ajordaoToma-, i've pasted there one more time04:22
naliothSpidy: get it here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab04:22
h0sl3rParisi: if there are a lot of people using RR in your area it might make it slow04:22
Toma-ajordao: nothing. paste in here04:23
bastardkestrelthanks04:23
naliothSpidy: instructions are written into it04:23
tritiumMoppin: multiverse04:23
Spidynalioth: Okay, thanks!04:23
Parisih0sl3r I wish they would up the cap, it has been 384 mbs for years.04:23
WoundUphello04:23
ParisiActually, 45 kb/s04:23
naliothToma-: do not invite folks to paste in here, please04:23
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Spidynalioth: Would I run it as a perl script, or?04:23
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naliothSpidy: it is a bash script. open it with a text editor and read the instructions04:24
ghmkfyfyhi dro04:24
Spidynalioth: okee04:24
Toma-sigh04:24
pospeselrCan anyone help me out with a problem with my touchpad?04:24
Toma-ajordao: if its more than 1 line, throw it in a pastebin in the topic04:24
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pospeselrcan anyone help me out with a problem with my touchpad?04:25
tritiumajordao: or use #flood04:25
WoundUpBack to my original question:  Hey anybody here used the LTSP in 5.10?04:26
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stratanyone know how to install crosover??it wont install with sudo....when i try to do  su... and enter pasword it says  password failed..how can i get su  to work under ubuntu??04:26
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thesilentkillercrimsun: i am still a little confused with what you said about using eclipse directly as against using plugins. in the second case, did you mean adding plugins to eclipse?04:26
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crimsunthesilentkiller: anything external that you would manually add04:26
Toma-strat: try "sudo -s"04:26
ajordaoToma-, http://pastebin.com/40479704:26
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Parisistrat You could enable it if thats what you really want.04:26
Razor-Xstrat: or ``sudo -i''04:26
Parisistrat su passwd root04:27
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Netslayerhow long does it take to get ordered cds? anyone know04:27
thesilentkillercrimsun: I am not planning on adding anything manually. but i am intending to install a lot of plugins. that shouldnt be a problem?04:27
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WoundUpstrat are you my any chance on perlmonks with the same nick?04:27
Razor-XNetslayer: not really sure, i've heard anywhere from 2-5 weeks04:27
stratno..not me..04:27
CaBlGuYok so, what media player do I need to get??04:28
crimsunthesilentkiller: you will want to install eclipse manually after downloading and installing a jre "the Debian way"04:28
CaBlGuYso I can play my radio streams?04:28
WoundUpOK.  probably common nick among guitar players.04:28
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patrickjdoes guifications work in ubuntu?04:28
Toma-ajordao: you want it like this... http://pastebin.com/40479804:28
patrickjbecause I wanna install it for Gaim04:28
phasegenhave they got dvd movie support working for breezy yet?04:28
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ajordaoToma-, i've done that04:28
naliothphasegen: yes04:28
ajordaoToma-, didn't work to04:29
thesilentkillercrimsun: okie. i guess i will install it manually. i have installed jdk1.5 and that seems to be holding on fine. also, eclipse's updating feature is pretty good by itself. so i guess i wouldnt need to have it under synaptic04:29
frank23phasegen: dvd's have always worked if you install what you need04:29
Toma-hmmm. i now hate lilo even more04:29
ajordaoToma-, Unrecognized token "splash" at or above line 16 in file '/etc/lilo.conf'04:29
ajordaoToma-, i hate grub04:29
Razor-XToma-: *points to the GRUB-happy-rainbow04:29
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patrickjalso once I make and make install something, can I delete the source directory's?04:29
phasegennalioth: is it posted in the wiki where to find it?04:29
naliothubotu: tell phasegen about dvd04:29
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Toma-ajordao: well im stumped. and i gotta goto work.04:30
Toma-good luck :S04:30
patrickjhow do I install the compiler packages in breezy?04:31
israelwhat do I need to install to get fonts.  I get the message "Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion all over the place.04:31
tritiumpatrickj: install build-essential04:31
naliothpatrickj: install "build-essential"04:31
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patrickjE: Couldn't find package build-essentials04:31
crimsunbuild-essential04:31
bimberipatrickj: drop the last s04:31
ajordaoanyone can help me in this subject ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80282&highlight=grub+1704:32
patrickjhaha I noticed :P04:32
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thesilentkillerwhat torrent client would you guys suggest for breezy? in XP, i am used to Azureus. but it acts a bit cranky in breezy (throws errors in the background)04:32
patrickjim compiling guifications, so I kinda needed the build essentials04:32
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patrickjbreezy rox, I like it out of all linux distros :P04:32
adriyel__thesilentkiller, use the default client that comes with Breezy?04:32
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bimberipatrickj: also, you should consider using checkinstall (another package) when the install process reaches "make install"04:32
qt2away. o>04:32
strat??how do you enable su  ?tried  sudo -s  and sudo -i..neither worked04:32
Razor-Xthesilentkiller: qtorrent or gtorrent for GUI, and BitTornado for CLI04:32
Spidynoliath: the script worked, but I can't actually access the partitions. Any other ideas?04:32
phasegenGoodnight all, peace and love, or at least a piece of love...04:33
CaBlGuYok, now I need a radio stream player, and a video player, as totem isn't playing any of my flix..04:33
CaBlGuYanyone?04:33
Razor-XCaBlGuY: have you tried mplayer?04:33
naliothstrat: that is unusual04:33
patrickjbah wont compile, some stupid error04:33
patrickjo well04:33
thesilentkilleradriyel__: hmm, k. using that now. thanks04:33
patrickjany alternative to it?04:33
CaBlGuYwhere do I get it?04:33
thesilentkillerRazor-X: will check those out. thanks04:33
adriyel__thesilentkiller, no problem.04:33
israelwhat do I need to install to get fonts.  I get the message "Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion all over the place.04:33
naliothSpidy: what errors do you get? (dont paste more than a line in here)04:33
CaBlGuYRazor-xwhere do I get it?04:34
Spidynalioth: invalid fs type04:34
CaBlGuYRazor-x where do I get it?04:34
perrethere is a problem with my kde 3.4, it doesnt mount devices automatically, how can i fix this?04:34
Razor-XCaBlGuY: as long as you have the codecs, the repos should have it04:34
CaBlGuYsorry, not typing good tonight.  :p04:34
Riddellperre: install kdebase updates from breezy-updates04:34
stratcrossover says i need to either log in as root or  use su..it wont worl with sudo..04:34
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Razor-Xand you too CaBlGuY, are you using tab-complete? :P04:34
perrethnx riddell04:34
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Razor-Xstrat: not even sudo -s or sudo -i ?04:34
CaBlGuYtab complete??04:35
bimberiCaBlGuY: try typing "raz" then hit the tab key04:35
naliothSpidy: what kind of mac are you using?04:35
CaBlGuYand where do I go to get to the repos?04:35
Spidynalioth: eMac04:35
patrickjhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/357904:35
CaBlGuYbimberi,  word..  :p04:35
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bimberiCaBlGuY: :)04:35
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Razor-XCaBlGuY: exactly what bimberi said, do you really think I spend the type and spell your name out in full special capitalization? :P04:35
Razor-XCaBlGuY: i'm much too lazy for that04:35
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perreriddell it says that the package is already updetes04:35
perreupdated04:36
CaBlGuYRazor-X,  LMAO..  yeah I hear ya..04:36
patrickji need a really nice XMMS/BMP theme, not one of those tacki 1996 looking ones04:36
naliothSpidy: paste your /etc/fstab to a pastebin04:36
naliothubotu: tell Spidy about paste04:36
Razor-XCaBlGuY: I almost *never* type in a person's name in full, two to three leters suffices04:36
Spidynalioth, how would I get my /etc/fstab?04:36
stratnope..sudo -s didnt work..and sudo -i,,it did same thing..but wouldnt even launch the installer..complained about something about x04:36
CaBlGuYRazor-X,  so where do I find the repos??04:36
Hobbsee!repos04:36
ubotusources is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)04:36
Razor-Xoh, he beat me to it :P04:36
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naliothSpidy: open a terminal and type "gedit /etc/fstab"04:37
Razor-Xmaybe I should add an emacs macro for !repos04:37
Spidynalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/358004:37
that_weaselanyone using ndiswrapper with a wep key?04:37
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bimberipatrickj: enable the source repisotories, then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get build-dep gaim04:38
naliothSpidy: now type "mount" in your terminal and paste it, please04:38
patrickjI DO have gaim install though, that the thing04:38
stratguess ill try the crossover room..04:38
DiscipulusWhy couldn't Avagadro have kids?04:38
patrickjand I dont have time to build it anyways :P04:38
samue1hi again :)04:38
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patrickjIm using it right now ffs04:38
Razor-XDiscipulus: hahahaha!04:38
CaBlGuYRazor-X, ok, lets say that Im a total n00b to all this..  (cause I am) :p and I have no clue on how to get stuff from the repos. unless it's in the drop down (start) menu...04:38
Spidynalioth, paste the entire /etc/fstab?04:38
bimberipatrickj: yes, maybe, but not the source code requirements for compiling gaim04:39
HobbseeSpidy: in the pastebin, yes04:39
Razor-XDiscipulus: who would want a father that made such a lame law, and had such a lame constant named after him?04:39
patrickjurgh04:39
DiscipulusRazor-X, because he couldn't mole-tiply?04:39
Razor-X!tell CaBlGuY about repos04:39
Discipulus-?04:39
Razor-XDiscipulus: :P04:39
patrickjI wont bother with the damm thing then, Ill do it morrow, but if I do what you said, will I still have my current gaim?04:39
patrickjas main one04:39
Razor-XDiscipulus: but you know, he didn't coin the mole constant04:39
patrickjor will it overwrite?04:39
Spidynalioth, how do I paste it into the terminal?04:39
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Razor-XDiscipulus: it was simply named after him04:39
DiscipulusRazor-X, who made it?04:39
Razor-XDiscipulus: he made the gas law though04:39
CaBlGuYRazor-X, yeah, I got those..  but ummm  I dunno what to do with em..04:39
CaBlGuY:o/04:40
Discipulusah04:40
P8ntKidWhere can i get the extra repos for breezy?04:40
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naliothSpidy: type "mount" <enter> and copy what is returned to you in the terminal04:40
Spidynalioth, okee04:40
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Razor-XDiscipulus: I don't remember offhand who coined mole constant04:40
naliothSpidy: paste that text in a pastebin, please04:40
DiscipulusRazor-X, who made the law of uncertainty?04:40
tonyyarussoI'm running tpb (ThinkPad buttons), and I want a button to open Firefox.  My problem is that when it does so it also opens the Profile Manager.  The browser still opens just fine, but it's a bit annoying to have to go back and close the PM each time.  Does anyone know how I should modify my command line in tpbrc to force the PM not to show?04:40
Razor-XCaBlGuY: you ran an update in apt-get or uncertainty?04:40
Razor-XDiscipulus: Heisenburg, of course04:40
patrickjbimberi: ?04:40
deadangelumm?  i'm lost04:40
Spidynalioth, k04:40
Razor-XDiscipulus: contributed by Einstein who used research from Planck04:40
CaBlGuYRazor-X,  I ran aop get in Terminal..04:41
dracflamlocdoes an intel pro wireless 2915 work in ubuntu?04:41
CaBlGuY*apt - get04:41
samue1ok i have had fedora and ubuntu both on this PC, i wanna ditch fedora but grub was installed by fedora, how do i reinstall grub from ubuntu? i tried grub > setup (hd0) and root (hd1,1) and it says selected disk does not exist!04:41
Spidynalioth, how do I copy it out of the terminal? Ctrl+c doesn't seem to work.04:41
Razor-XCaBlGuY: ``apt-get update'' ?04:41
DiscipulusRazor-X, Heisenburg got pulled over by a cop. Cop said, 'do you know how fast you were going?' and Heisenburg said 'No, but I know exactly where I am at.'04:41
Razor-XDiscipulus: HAHAHAHAHAHA04:41
tonyyarussodracflamloc: Mine does.04:41
Razor-Xthat's an *excellent* joke04:41
naliothSpidy: highlight and right click04:41
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Razor-XI have a Calculus one, if you wanna listen04:41
bimberipatrickj: (i missed it because you didn't use my nick :) ) yes04:41
Spidynalioth, ah, thank you.04:41
naliothSpidy: or use f12 since you have no right click04:41
DiscipulusI'm in pre-calc, I might not understand it04:41
CaBlGuYRazor-X,  ummmm  what u talkin about??  I did the update on the wizard thingy..04:42
Discipulusbut give it a shot04:42
deadangelno wonder i'm fuckin lost.  i'm out.04:42
that_weaselP8ntKid: start synaptic...Settings>Repositories the click the Settings button, and select "Show disabled software sources"04:42
dracflamloctonyyarusso, awesome =)04:42
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Razor-XDiscipulus: mmm, so am I, but I research math ahead, so...04:42
tritiumRazor-X, Discipulus please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic04:42
Spidynalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/358204:42
Razor-XCaBlGuY: oh, great04:42
Razor-XDiscipulus: yeah, let's take it to offtopic04:42
CaBlGuYRazor-X,  :o)04:42
Razor-XCaBlGuY: now try search for mplayer04:42
patrickjokay so It just downloads the sources, doesnt overwrite the default gaim that comes with ubuntu?04:42
Spidynalioth, nah, I have right click. 8 button mice rule.04:42
DiscipulusRazor-X, you mean #offtopic ?04:42
Razor-XDiscipulus: #ubuntu-offtopic, yeah04:42
CaBlGuYRazor-X,  ummmm where?04:42
patrickjbimberi: okay so It just downloads the sources, doesnt overwrite the default gaim that comes with ubuntu?04:42
patrickjtherE :P04:42
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man_exechi all04:43
CaBlGuYHowdy man o/04:43
man_execI'm in breezy and can't see my vfat drives04:43
Weemswhat do I need to install to enable xshm tinting in xchat 2.4.5 (trying to compile as there is no binary)04:43
Razor-XCaBlGuY: in synaptic/kynaptic/apt-get (pick one of those that applies)04:43
man_execcan anyone help me access them?04:43
bimberipatrickj: yes :) it just downloads, it won't compile and install an alternative gaim.  You have to do that separately04:43
man_execI can find them in cfdisk04:43
naliothSpidy: one more thing: type "sudo fdisk -l" and paste that please04:43
patrickjokay04:43
CaBlGuY!tell man_exec windows drives04:43
Spidynalioth, k04:44
patrickjso once i get that I can install guifications?04:44
minnieTrying to get my hp psc 1350 printer working with the HP driver..anybody had any luck with that before?04:44
Spidynalioth, _ALL_ of it?04:44
patrickjbimberi: how do I enable the source repos?04:44
naliothSpidy: there isnt that much04:44
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CaBlGuYRazor-X,  ahh  you mean the app installer thingy??04:44
naliothCaBlGuY: it's !tell <NICK> about <FACTOID>04:44
bimberipatrickj: i don't know about the guifications, i'm going from the build error you pastebinned04:44
tritiumpatrickj: you can get guifications at any time (it's in the repos)04:44
Spidynalioth, I've got about 16000 lines.04:44
CaBlGuYnalioth,  word..04:44
dutchguyhas anyone tried the Ubuntu Server?04:44
CaBlGuY:p04:44
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bimberipatrickj: uncomment them in your /etc/apt/sources.list04:45
naliothSpidy: when you type "sudo fdisk -l" you get thousands of lines?04:45
Spidynalioth, yes. Those are apparently under drivers, though. I killed it quickly and this is what I got: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/358404:45
bimberipatrickj: they will be lines beginning with "deb-src".04:45
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patrickjaparently already had em uncommented :/04:46
patrickjlol04:46
naliothSpidy: did you type "sudo" ?04:46
dutchguyanyone know how to add telnet server to the Ubuntu server version?04:46
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Spidynalioth, yes.04:46
Spidynalioth, wait...no.04:46
bimberipatrickj: fine, you can go straight to apt-get build-dep gaim04:46
Spidynalioth, with sudo though, same thing.04:47
patrickjone step ahead of you :P04:47
frank23dutchguy: wouldn't ssh be better?04:47
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chris86wmhey guys, i have a bunch of pictures that i want to set to cycle as my screensaver. can i do that in ubuntu?04:47
naliothSpidy: in your terminal type "man mount"04:47
bimberidutchguy: probably apt-get install telnetd (although ssh is better)04:47
Spidynalioth, k04:47
tritiumpatrickj: why are you building gaim, anyway?04:47
johnnyuggh.. telnet is scary04:47
Spidynalioth, okay, got that.04:47
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dutchguyits just on an LAN though so its ok04:47
patrickjim not, its guifications :P04:47
minnieChris...that's easy.04:47
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chris86wmlol i cant find the option to do it04:48
tritiumpatrickj: okay, why are you building guifications, instead of just installing them?04:48
CaBlGuYRazor-X, ok, did a search, nothin..  it's not there..04:48
bimberitritium: patrickj got this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/357904:48
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minnieGo into System, preferences, screen saver Chris04:48
chris86wmi assume its in the screensaver preferences window04:48
chris86wmyeah04:48
patrickjoh..is there a package in the repos?04:48
johnnyargh.. can't get build deps for php5 .. cuz it needs some snmp libs.. which i dont' even care about04:48
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chris86wmim there04:48
minnieAnd then at the top there is a pulldown men.04:48
minnieYou have the option of one screensave..04:48
patrickjE: Couldn't find package guifications04:48
minnieor multiple...or whatever.04:48
chris86wmyeah04:48
patrickjthats why :P04:48
Spidynalioth, just read it04:49
tritiumpatrickj: apt-cache search guifications04:49
Spidynalioth, ?04:49
tritium!info gaim-guifications04:49
ubotugaim-guifications: (toaster popups for gaim), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.12-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 133 kB, Installed size: 844 kB04:49
samue1if my first hard drive is windows and my second hard drive is ubuntu in grub would i type setup (hd0) or setup (hd1) ?04:49
minnieSo click random and check the ones you want to cycle through Chris.04:49
tritiumpatrickj: you've got to look around a bit ;)04:49
bimberipatrickj: sorry, i should of thought of that :/ (thanks tritium)04:49
naliothSpidy: i'm not much on mounting things04:49
patrickjhaha thanks :P04:49
Spidynalioth, okee, gonna read it and attempt to stumble through. Thanks for the help, though.04:49
dooglusminnie: you didn't read his question properly.  he has a bunch of photos he wants to see, not a bunch of screensavers.04:49
chris86wmwell see, i dont want to cycle through screensavers. just some pictures that i took04:50
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naliothSpidy: google may provide some simpler howtos04:50
chris86wmwould it be this "image manipulation" thing?04:50
icemanOk, god Diablo to work, now to get bnet to Work in wine ... anyone able to help there04:50
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frank23iceman: check the transgaming wiki04:51
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man_execback again.  hi again.04:51
adriyel__iceman, can't help you, cedega user here. happy for it too04:51
Spidynalioth, alright, thank you.04:51
frank23iceman: there is a network thing to do04:51
chris86wmhmm04:51
frank23iceman: oh wine. I read cedega04:51
patrickjalright nice, I got it going :P04:52
patrickjthanks04:52
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chris86wmyou think it would be in the screensavers list04:52
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doogluschris86wm: wouldn't you!  I'm trying to find it too04:53
chris86wmlol04:53
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doogluschris86wm: perhaps 'xlockmore' has something?04:53
chris86wmi was looking in the forums but didnt find anything on it04:53
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icemancedega got a link to them .. is it available with apt-get04:54
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vengefulcedega isnt free software04:54
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dooglusvengeful: the source code is available from CVS though04:55
vengefuli guess04:55
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chris86wmim thinking its in the advanced tab04:55
icemancan you Apt-Get Cedega ?04:55
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OrbordeWhy is it that some web pages seem to require 2D hardware acceleration and others don't? Due to incompatibility, I don't have any graphical acceleration, and so on most pages scrolling is kind of laggy in Firefox. But on a few pages, it's blazing fast. Why?04:55
vengefulthey dont really like people doing that..and encourage you not to on the website04:55
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bur[n] e1iceman: no, you buy it ;)04:55
patrickjim making an ubuntu wallpaper and I need a good version of the logo04:55
CaBlGuYim not finding mplayer in the software downloads..04:56
CaBlGuY:04:56
patrickjwith a transparent background04:56
bur[n] e1CaBlGuY: got universe repositories?04:56
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aeon17xOrborde: some pages have a lot of graphical stuff on them... anyway, why don't you have graphical acceleration. What card are you using?04:56
bur[n] e1patrickj: ubuntu.com has a page with ubuntu artwork for use04:56
CaBlGuYbur[n] e1,  wussat??04:56
icemanWell, got to buy it, no trial... screwed up...04:56
bur[n] e1!tell CaBlGuY about repositories04:56
patrickjalright sweet :P04:56
bur[n] e1CaBlGuY: check yer msgs04:56
goodwillis there a reason why scroll lock does not light up under X?04:56
bur[n] e1iceman: it's only $5 a month for a total of 3 months... == $1504:56
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bur[n] e1iceman: it works well though!  I'll vouch for it04:57
patrickjnot seeing it there...04:57
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iceman#winehq04:58
patrickj?04:58
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tonyyarussoman_exec: Are you still looking for vfat drive help?04:58
bur[n] e1patrickj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityArtwork04:58
CaBlGuYbur[n] e1,  ok Razor-X  already showed me that, but I dunno what to do with it..04:58
CaBlGuYwhat am I posed to do with it??04:58
patrickjthnks :D04:58
_jason!tell patrickj about art04:58
bur[n] e1CaBlGuY: you read it and apply what you read04:58
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bur[n] e1patrickj: np04:58
chris86wmdang man, i dont know04:59
theineHas anybody seen a Debian package for the VMware player?04:59
seifeWhere do i get into theme preview?04:59
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CaBlGuYbur[n] e1,  read what??  It's a bunch of http sites, and deb stuff whatever the hell that is.,.04:59
samuel__openoffice reads my printer but it does not print and just stays qued04:59
adriyel__theine, there won't be one for awhile...well, there might be one in unstable eventually...04:59
CaBlGuYone more time just so EVERYONE knows..04:59
samuel__what do i do?05:00
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CaBlGuY:p05:00
doogluschris86wm: I can't find anything.  That's really quite strange.  Why no 'image' screensaver?05:00
bur[n] e1CaBlGuY: so read what is on those "http" sites05:00
chris86wmyou would think it would be a standard thing. they have the "scrolling text"05:00
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samuel__openoffice reads my printer but it does not print and just stays qued05:00
bur[n] e1that msg points you to a wiki page05:00
bur[n] e1read that wiki page05:00
samuel__what do i do?05:00
naliothCaBlGuY: we're all new to something05:00
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tonyyarussoHow can I leave a memo for someone with nickserv?  (I know this is off-topic, so if there's somewhere you can redirect me to, that's fine.)05:00
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bur[n] er`tonyyarusso: using memoserv05:01
naliothtonyyarusso: /msg memoserv help05:01
tonyyarusso'k, thanks.05:01
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CaBlGuYdammit..05:01
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theineadriyel__, I'm not looking for an `official' one05:02
chris86wmdooglus: from what i am reading, i think there is one in kde05:02
CaBlGuYall I wanna do is be able to hear my radio streams and watch my videos..05:02
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bur[n] er`CaBlGuY: don't be lazy05:02
theineadriyel__, just something somebody cooked up in his speartime...05:02
bur[n] er`CaBlGuY: all the info is laid out pretty well in the wiki05:02
CaBlGuYbe lazy???   how the fuk am I being lazy when I have NO CLUE wtf to do?!?!05:03
sigis ubuntuguide.org dead?05:03
tritiumCaBlGuY: easy on the bad language05:03
CaBlGuYwhatever the hell wiki is..05:03
bur[n] er`!restricted05:03
doogluschris86wm: I remember something in KDE, yes.05:03
ubotuwell, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs05:03
sigCaBlGuY: I'll help yolu05:03
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naliothsig: it might as well be, it is way out of sync with breezy (and will kill it quickly)05:03
naliothCaBlGuY: help.ubuntu.com05:04
sigI see05:04
sigCaBlGuY: get mplayer05:04
shinui want to run a small loop in the shell, how do i use a variable: say, wget something(variable).jpg?05:04
sigand w32codecs05:04
sigmplayer -vo xv -ao alsa -fs movie.avi05:04
sigetc...05:04
bur[n] er`ooh... nice link for newbs nalioth :)05:04
CaBlGuYsig yeah yur the 3rd person to tell me that..05:04
shinuwhere variable is going to be incremented after each iteration05:04
chris86wmdooglus: ah found it!!!!05:04
CaBlGuYbut, it's not in the software dowload thingy..05:04
thesilentkilleri found ubuntuguide very useful for hoary. wish they wud continue the good work05:04
dooglusshinu: for i in a b c; do wget http://blah.com/$i.html; done05:04
bur[n] er`!w32codecs05:05
ubotumethinks w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)05:05
tritiumCaBlGuY: yes, it is.05:05
chris86wmdooglus: its called GLSlideshow05:05
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CaBlGuYnot in mine it's not..05:05
CaBlGuYhang on..05:05
doogluschris86wm: that's a screensaver?05:05
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chris86wmdooglus: yes, it is in the list05:05
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chris86wmhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32382&highlight=image+screensaver05:05
bur[n] er`dooglus: it is05:05
chris86wmi was wrong, it was in the forums05:05
P8ntKidWhat file managers do you all use?05:06
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sigmcedit05:06
CaBlGuYapllications installer, sound and video, all I have is...  Music player, sound juicer, Totem, and XMMS..  that's it..05:06
sigmc05:06
CaBlGuYnothin else.05:06
dabaRP8ntKid: ones that come with the system:P05:06
varP8ntKid: konqueror for gui  and mc for cli05:06
dooglusshinu: i=0; while ((i<10)); do wget http://blah.com/$i.jpg; ((i=i+1)); done05:06
shinudooglus: do i need double brackets around 'a b c' ?05:06
P8ntKidAnybody use rox?05:06
shinuoh...05:06
P8ntKidWhat terminals do you all use?05:06
varP8ntKid: gentoo is good also.05:06
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shinui use rox05:07
dooglusshinu: depends what you want to do.  if you're doing 'math' then use (( and ))05:07
shinurarely though05:07
dabaRP8ntKid: did you consider posting a poll on the forums?05:07
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P8ntKidvar, I thought gentoo was a distro?05:07
adriyel__var, I'll pass on the cross-distro propaganda, thx :P05:07
bytefooholy crap05:07
bytefooi can highlight a music file and it will play a snippet05:07
bytefooomg thats awesome :O05:07
samuel__openoffice reads my printer but it does not print and just stays qued05:07
samuel__what do i do?05:07
cafuegoP8ntKid: No, it's ana abomination unto the eyes of Me.05:07
sigbytefoo: your lucky yours does, mine doesn't do that05:07
varso yall are saying you don't know that gentoo is a file manager ?05:07
shinudooglus: what do you mean by that?..05:07
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dooglusshinu: did you see the 'while' loop line?05:08
cafuegoP8ntKid: ... and clearly off-topic here.05:08
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shinudooglus: yeah, should i do that instead of for?05:08
dabaRP8ntKid: but a poll on ther forums is fine...05:08
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naliothvar: yes gentoo is a file manager, so is mc and krusader05:08
sambagirlpaintkid what is rox?05:08
dooglusshinu: it depends what you want to do.  the "for i in a b c; do; ...; done" loop will set i to 'a', 'b' and 'c' in turn.  if you want numbers, use the while loop instead.05:09
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naliothsambagirl: rox-filer is a file manager/desktop manager05:09
sambagirlohh05:09
varglad someone knew that nalioth05:09
sambagirlthjank you05:09
pupilwhere can I get the kernel sources for 2.6.12-905:09
P8ntKidsambagirl, Its a file manager that I love.05:09
icemanOK how to set wine up to find the internet05:09
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shinudooglus: ok05:09
sambagirldoes it work with ubuntu?05:09
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dooglusshinu: I use 'for' mostly to do stuff like "for file in *.jpg; do convert $file; done"05:09
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cafuegopupil: linux-source-2.6.1205:09
chris86wmYAY, i got it working!05:09
shinudooglus: see..05:10
Orbordeaeon17x: Sorry for the long delay. I have an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M, which, despite sounding incredibly sexy, I can't figure out how to configure with X.05:10
dabaRsambagirl: did you searc for it in your synaptic?05:10
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Bachus9000I've followed the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75443 to recompile the kernel with swsup2 support and now ndiswrapper does not work.  When I insert my wireless card, the ndiswrapper module is loaded as normal, but when I try to assign an IP to the machine dhclient just goes in an loop.05:10
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jbroome!ubuntuforums05:11
ubotujbroome: Are you smoking crack?05:11
jbroomecrap05:11
cafuego!forums 7544305:11
pupilcafuego, what exactly are you talking about ?05:11
ubotuForums: Thread 75443 is: HOWTO: Suspend2 in Breezy - Ubuntu Forums05:11
dabaRjbroome: use !+ubuntuguide, or /msg ubotu tell person about ubuntuguide05:11
shinudooglus: i corrected my for loop, it worked fine. i had a quote sign before my http:// so it didnt work :P05:11
shinudooglus: thanks a lot :)05:12
cafuegopupil: The soruce for the 2.6.12-9 kernels is 'linux-source-2.6.12'. Youc na install it with apt-get.05:12
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dabaRjbroome: preferably the other, I know what ubuntuguide is05:12
josh43Hey, with Breezy, I'm finally getting the ntfs partitions on the desktop, but I'm not allowed to read them (file permission error) - there's nothing special in fstab, is there anything I should check?05:12
pupilcafuego, ohh,. excellent,. thanks05:12
cafuegopupil: the -9 is appended in the build process.05:12
sigwhen I highlight sound files it doesn't play samples05:13
sigany idea?05:13
sigI have sound: preview: always on05:13
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dabaRsig: foget you heard about it?05:13
abarbacciahey all - i need some help with fans on MB headers and ubuntu - i want to reduce the voltage to a fan because its SO FREAKIN LOUD05:13
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sambagirlwhat dabar i sorry i was playing TCE :D05:13
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sambagirlhi dabar05:14
sigdabaR: ?05:14
varsig shot in the dark here, but in kde you can specify the max file size that it samples.  gnome may be like that too.05:14
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dabaRhi05:14
Hentai^sparcdoes a officejet v40 work with ubuntu?05:14
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dabaRsig: explain the use of that feature, and I will be a believer in it.05:14
aeon17xHentai^sparc, what's an officejet v40?05:15
sigdabaR: so I can look for a song that I want05:15
siginstead of having to open each song05:15
jbroomeit sprays ink in your face?05:15
Hentai^sparcits a all-in-one printer scanner fax copy05:15
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aeon17xLook at System > Administration > Printing, and see if it has a driver for it.05:15
dabaRsig: isnt that what a name is for?05:16
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Hentai^sparcoh boy crap05:16
dabaRsig: maybe I dont get it cause I dont have enough songs for that feature to be useful...05:16
sigdabaR: I have lots of music by #'s05:16
naliothHentai^sparc: you wander into the wrong room?05:16
Hentai^sparcand if it does aeon17x?05:16
sigdabaR: you just answered your own question with that last reply05:16
dabaRsig: use cddb05:16
Hentai^sparcnalioth no trying to get info about a printer05:16
sigbbiaf05:16
dabaRsig: I know.05:16
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aeon17xHentai^sparc: choose that one, and it'll create a printer setup for you.05:16
Hentai^sparcthe printer is connected via usb but dunno if ubuntu should of autdetected that05:17
pudlandmsg NickServ IDENTIFY pudland05:17
sambagirlhehe pudland :D05:17
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naliothpudland: use a preceding / next time05:17
pupillol05:17
aeon17xpudland: you forgot the slash.05:17
jbroomeand a good password05:17
Hentai^sparcslash man use the slash05:17
pudlandthanks, ive been drinking a bit05:17
pudland:-P05:17
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varpubland and change your passwd05:18
naliothpudland: when you're sober, configure your client to do it for you05:18
thesilentkillerpudland frantically rushes to change his secret password :)05:18
Hentai^sparcnalioth just got to get my mom's printer setup to work with ubuntu than everything will be ok over there05:18
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dabaRvar: and use nicktab05:18
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varyeah05:18
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CaBlGuYsig u still there>??05:19
dabaRhe is05:20
adriyel__Hentai^sparc, do you use sparc workstations/servers ?05:20
ScOrPiO-druid-Wawhat app do i need to play WMA files?05:20
pudlandnalioth: how do i change my psswrd?05:20
dabaRpudland: /msg nickserv help05:20
CaBlGuYScOrPiO-druid-Wa,  good luck getting it..05:20
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adriyel__w32-codecs doesn't play WMA?05:20
jbroomepudland: maybe you need a designated IRC'r05:21
CaBlGuYScOrPiO-druid-Wa,  I've been tryin to get mplayer now for about an hour..  with no luck..05:21
SystemXi can install ubuntu and add debian sources and pretty much make it a debian install right?05:21
CaBlGuY:/05:21
dabaRScOrPiO-druid-Wa: you need codecs, w32codecs, yes. ask ubotu about it.05:21
adriyel__ubotu tell ScOrPiO-druid-Wa about restricted formats05:21
adriyel__done.05:21
adriyel__have at it05:21
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adriyel__I05:21
naliothpudland: /msg nickserv help05:21
adriyel__am off to collect on that bowl of rice :D05:21
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dabaRCaBlGuY: its really easyy. enable multiverse, and then install mplayer-386 or whatever arch you use05:21
naliothSystemX: no you can turn it into a broken door stop05:21
ScOrPiO-druid-Wawere do i get Codecs05:21
ScOrPiO-druid-Wa?05:21
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naliothScOrPiO-druid-Wa: check your priv msgs05:22
dabaRadriyel__: tell him about w32codecsm rather05:22
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ICEMAN-AMD64Crap working in windows ... excuse the language, how to get wine to find the internet when running Diablo II05:22
SystemXnalioth: whats wrong with debian? ubuntu is based on it05:22
CaBlGuYdabaR what is multivers and how do I load it??05:22
dabaRCaBlGuY: add it its a repo.05:22
CaBlGuYhow do I add it??05:23
regeya_I know how to turn off the internet05:23
naliothSystemX: the binaries are very different, and using debian binaries will kill your ubuntu05:23
adriyel__ubotu tell ScOrPiO-druid-Wa about w32codecs05:23
dabaRgive it a sec...05:23
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SystemXi thought you could add sources to apt-get. i mean ubuntu is a pretty minimal distro05:23
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dabaRCaBlGuY: the ubotu told you about relevant links.05:23
adriyel__SystemX, you have no idea what minimal is, LOL05:23
naliothSystemX: not binary sources05:23
ICEMAN-AMD64I launch Diablo II, that works from Wine, in LInux, but the minute i click to go online, it freezes linux completly05:24
SystemXadjacent: i have a pretty good idea. iv been using linux and other operating systems for years now05:24
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josh43ICEMAN-AMD64, I assume you are not running ubuntu a64?05:24
varSystemX: the installer cd for ub doesn't even come close to qualifing as minimal.05:24
pudlandnalioth: thhanks05:25
CaBlGuYdabaR wich tell me nothin cause I dunno what to do with "relivant links"..05:25
frank23ICEMAN-AMD64: did you take a look at the transgaming wiki. I think there is something about adding localhost to your hosts file05:25
ICEMAN-AMD64josh43 nope, got tired of fighting 64 bit, and backporting it to run wine, so i installed x8605:25
josh43SystemX: There are distros that run entirely from a 640k floppy05:25
josh43ICEMAN-AMD64, Yeah, same here05:25
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mmillerlist05:25
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pudlandnalioth: quick ques... the backports repos cant be found.. are there new ones?05:26
var549k floppy ?05:26
ICEMAN-AMD64how to tell wine, or linux, to go and find the net ?05:26
naliothpudland: not yet, wait a few weeks05:26
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varerr 640k ?05:26
Linux_n00bthere05:26
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Linux_n00bNOW does everyone see that I know squat??05:26
pudlandnalioth: kk, so its a known issue.05:26
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hoslerHow do I get ubuntu to detect my printer?05:26
naliothpudland: one needs a developement distro to back port from05:27
SystemXvar: lots of the mac classic distros run off 64005:27
ICEMAN-AMD64right now i am just putting all my d2 installs in a dos directry, where linux plays fairly nice with them05:27
dabaRLinux_n00b: a link is a url, like http://dabar.selfip.org . you right click, select open link, and go and read the page that tells you relevant steps for what you are doing.05:27
varSystemX: ok, see i'm mac illerit  :)05:27
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ScOrPiO-druid-WaWhat do i do with the Codec once i Dl im a neebie i know nothing05:27
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dabaRLinux_n00b: also, there is a mplayer installation page on the wiki, not great, but helpful(from what I hear.)05:28
naliothubotu: tell ScOrPiO-druid-Wa about cli05:28
SystemXhaha, many other os's are pretty small. qnx and beos, aswell as a bunch of linux distros05:28
frank23ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: what are you trying to install?05:28
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pudlandnalioth: so since the Breezy release... Warty would be the development distro?05:28
dabaRLinux_n00b: tell me you knew what a link is.05:28
jbroomewith a nick like ScOrPiO-druid-Wa i'm very happy for tab complete in my client05:28
ScOrPiO-druid-WaI just wanna Play Back WMA files05:28
SystemXim just trying to choose which distro i want to go with. and by the looks of it i may as well just go slack. or debian. maybe gentoo..... gah i dont know.05:28
ICEMAN-AMD64God just getting diablo running and on Battlenet... would be nice ...05:29
naliothpudland: dapper drake is starting developement in a few weeks05:29
Linux_n00bdabaR, I know what a link is, and I know how to read "help files" but what I don't know is what im posed to do with a bunch of URL's that don't tell me nothin..05:29
dabaRLinux_n00b: you raed the info on them?05:29
ICEMAN-AMD64back in a bit .. back to linux ...05:29
SystemXi wish i could ask someone what the best distro is and get a non bias answer. if only it were that easy05:29
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sambagirlwho is official programmer for ubuntu? who is leader?05:29
varSystemX: yes, size of distro was not my question.   640k floppy was.   i've never see a floppy formated to 640k.05:29
pudlandnalioth: thanks05:29
gnuyenhi guys, i'm trying to follow these directions05:29
gnuyenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7466005:29
SystemXvar remember those huge old floppys05:30
naliothsambagirl: wiki.ubuntu.com will answer your questions05:30
varSystemX: the best distro, is .......05:30
SystemXvar: could have been before your time05:30
dabaRsambagirl: go read the MarkShuttleworth page on the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth05:30
sambagirlokay05:30
varyes i do.05:30
SystemXthink tandy computer05:30
gnuyenbut i don't understand where to get the diff dsc and other tarballs05:30
frank23SystemX: there is no one best distro. Every one is using what they think is the best. That's why you always get a biased answer05:30
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var.... the one you like the best.05:30
SystemXfrank23: im aware. i just think it sucks. i hate always having to think for myself05:30
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locustSo I decided that instead of dual booting Windows XP and Ubunut, I'd use straight Ubuntu.05:30
ScOrPiO-druid-Wahow do i change my shit to KDE ?05:30
SystemXbut i quess i could just install a bunch of distros05:31
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pudlandnalioth: I'm running out of needed things for my comp.  besides playing with the dvd burner i just got, I dont know what else to play with.05:31
SystemXharddrives are cheap as borsh05:31
naliothScOrPiO-druid-Wa: please mind your tongue, and install "kubuntu-desktop" with apt-get05:31
locustScOrPiO-druid-Wa, download Kubuntu :P05:31
jbroomeand cause less gas05:31
frank23SystemX: ;-)  Just download a few Iso and try them. Suse, Fedora, Ubuntu05:31
SystemXewww id never use fedora05:31
naliothpudland: have you enabled universe and multiverse?05:31
frank23SystemX: Try Ubuntu (or Kubuntu) last and you'll stick with it. ;-)05:31
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varScOrPiO-druid-Wa: snaptic install kdebase  and select kde when you login.05:31
locustWhat was that wiki site url that told how to fix your screen resolution?05:31
siggnome all the way05:31
locustGnome > KDE :D05:32
sambagirli seen bigger floppy on ibm mini comuters than baby tandy ;)05:32
naliothdistro comparisons can go to #ubuntu-offtopic please05:32
SystemXfrank23: iv tryed ubuntu. it was nice for a new linux user but its not my style05:32
Linux_n00bok..05:32
Linux_n00bis this correct?>??05:32
Linux_n00bsudo apt-get install mplayer-k605:32
seifeanyone knows wich this font is ? http://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/gimp3.png05:32
Linux_n00ba simple yes orno will suffise..05:32
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sambagirlsystemx how much does cost borsch?05:32
slyjab<---still has his C-6405:32
sambagirlsounds dreadful borsch05:32
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pudlandnalioth: i have everything listed in http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories05:33
SystemXlocust fluxbox > then any other desktop05:33
sambagirlwow i have my brothers c6405:33
naliothLinux_n00b: looks good05:33
Linux_n00bGreat..05:33
naliothpudland: that is not good05:33
sambagirlhas tape drive too05:33
kevogod!ubuntuguide05:33
pudlandnalioth: why????05:33
ubotusomebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.05:33
nalioth!tell pudland about ubuntuguide05:33
slyjabtape drive is long dead05:33
sambagirland 300bps modem too!05:33
dabaRLinux_n00b: did you enable multiverse?05:33
Hentai^sparcok thanks ll pretty straight forward on that05:33
nalioth!tell pudland about sources05:33
sambagirli have his tandy 100 too!05:33
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Linux_n00bnalioth, ok, it's saying this---> Couldn't find package mplayer-k605:33
naliothpudland: you should have the sources ubotu just sent you links to05:33
Linux_n00bhow do I enable multivers??05:34
naliothLinux_n00b: dabaR asked you a question05:34
slyjabread something about getting c-64 retro games for linux05:34
dabaRLinux_n00b: read the pages shown there.05:34
sambagirlcool05:34
pudlandnalioth: kk, thanks.  thats not justt for breezy?05:34
dabaRdid you get messages from ubotu, Linux_n00b ?05:34
naliothpudland: ubuntuguide has been breaking computers since warty warthog05:34
dabaRalong with backports:)05:35
pudlandnalioth: ooyyy, ive been using it and everything worked.  Ive got everything from it.05:35
naliothdabaR: backports are official for breezy05:35
dabaRso what? they sucked in hoary...05:35
naliothpudland: then hope your machine isnt compromised too badly05:35
pudlandnalioth: i'll change the repos now05:35
dabaRI hope they start teaching people how to use them, that will make a change...05:35
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dabaRLinux_n00b: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto shows how, if you did not get it yet.05:36
naliothdabaR: breezy backports are going to be safe to use (they are part of the ubuntu community now)05:36
dabaRmeh:-/05:36
dabaRLeft to be seen.05:36
thesilentkilleris there a good disk manager which will show me the disk usage in fancy graphics, like a pie chart....which i can zoom in to see how much space each folder takes...i vaguely remember some tool that can do this05:36
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dabaRnalioth: good luck to them.05:36
nalioththesilentkiller: xdiskusage05:36
thesilentkillernalioth: okie. thanks.05:37
johnnythesilentkiller, i know filelight can.. but it's qt05:37
johnnythere must be one for gtk as well05:37
kjdisMay I paste in about 10 lines of video info from boot? I am trying to figure out where I messed up my kernel, system boots and it's up, but video goes black05:37
johnnynot here..05:37
nalioththesilentkiller: if you use xdiskusage, you can click around in it05:37
thesilentkillerjohnny: hmmm, k. i will give xdiskusage a shot05:37
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icemanwhat app to use with shoutcast, streamlink or something like that ... what was it05:37
dabaRthey licensed qt with gpl at some point.05:37
nalioth!tell kjdis about paste05:37
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johnnythey already did05:37
johnnyeven for win3205:38
naliothkjdis: please use a pastebin05:38
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johnnyiceman, streamripper?05:38
dabaRthat's what I said, no? I said they licensed it at some point..05:38
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thesilentkillernalioth: i am looking at screeshots of xdiskusage. seems like it will do what i want . thanks05:38
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johnnyoh.. oops..05:38
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icemanstreamripper ? close ... that available with apt-get ?05:38
johnnybut the win32 licensing was only added recently..05:38
johnnyie: in the past year05:38
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johnnyno idea.. i don't really use ubuntu05:38
pudlandnalioth: im updating now05:38
kjdishttp://pastebin.ca/2656805:38
dabaRah05:38
pudlandubotu: thanks for the quick info05:39
ubotude nada, pudland05:39
kjdisif anyone cares to look, although that info has no errors or anything, but someone might see an issue with it switching modes , perhaps05:39
johnnyi haven't used debian based stuff since early woody05:39
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johnnyi switched to gentoo about 3 years ago05:39
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varjohnny: what are you doing here?  that's my line......05:39
slyjabsambagirl: checkout www.c64.com05:39
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johnnyi setup ubuntu for friends and clients05:39
johnnythus i'm relearning all my debianisms05:39
dabaRhah05:40
johnnyhopefully minus the elitism..05:40
icemanok now pointing to the app, where does ubuntu put them05:40
dabaRhah05:40
varone can only hope....05:40
pudlandnalioth: thanks again05:40
kennethi can't get rhthymbox to stream audio files05:40
dabaRput who, iceman ?05:40
starscallingok05:40
sambagirloks,lyjab05:41
ScOrPiO-druid-Waif im on Ubuntu do i want .deb files?05:41
sambagirlbut i am big amiga fan05:41
naliothScOrPiO-druid-Wa: use synaptic to install your programs05:41
sambagirli love amigas :D05:41
dabaRScOrPiO-druid-Wa: you want debs from the repos, yes, and very rarely debs you download05:41
locustIt's so nice how easy it is to update ubuntu.05:41
icemandabaR where are apps put like xmms and the like .. to point shoutcast to the app05:41
starscallingi THINK i have this closer to down on the dual monitor under nvidia dualhead setup.. but how can i tell what horizsynch and vertrefresh to set for my monitors?05:41
dabaRiceman: the executables in /usr/bin usually05:42
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icemanty05:42
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dabaR$2005:42
varScOrPiO-druid-Wa: yes but you want .deb files made for your flavor of ub05:42
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ScOrPiO-druid-Wawell im Dl a codec that .deb05:42
jessidhello!05:42
dabaRScOrPiO-druid-Wa: the w32codecs?05:42
Linux_n00bok, I got universal installed..05:42
kennethwhen i try to stream audio files with rhythmbox, it says unexpected end of stream.05:42
naliothScOrPiO-druid-Wa: then d/l it to your home directory or desktop05:42
dabaRLinux_n00b: ok, universe, and now add multiverse.05:42
ScOrPiO-druid-Wayeah05:42
Linux_n00bin synaptic?05:43
dabaRLinux_n00b: read this to get background info... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view , and yes, synaptic.05:43
jessidA little question: is it posible to start session connecting through Internet in another machine?05:43
dabaRScOrPiO-druid-Wa: yes, that .deb is fine to download from somewhere else than repos, since it is just files, um...you will need to know sudo dpkg -i w32codecs.deb to install it...05:43
naliothjessid: yes it is05:43
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ScOrPiO-druid-Wawhere do i put this :S sudo dpkg -i w32codecs.deb05:44
naliothScOrPiO-druid-Wa: in a terminal. read the cli info ubotu sent you05:44
varmmmm cli05:44
dabaRnalioth: the question by jessid is an example of how you should be more specific. Yes, it is possible, provided some conditions...05:45
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adriyel__cli pwnzor05:46
naliothjessid: yes it is possible if the machine you want to log into has a ssh server running and you have an account on it05:46
adriyel__that makes me want to switch into a tty now05:46
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adriyel__darn yu05:46
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icemanHow to get wine to find the internet when i launch Diablo II05:46
dabaRnalioth: also, the one from which he is logging in has to have an x-server, right, and his ssh-server on host machine has to have xforwarding enabled...05:47
icemani can run Diablo II, but i click to go online and Diablo Freeze's05:47
ScOrPiO-druid-WaOk the Codec or the .deb ius on my Desktop what i typr in terminal to install it ?05:47
Linux_n00bdabaR ok, I read it, now what..05:47
johnnydpkg -i <deb>05:48
johnnyerr sudo dpkg -i <deb>05:48
naliothdabaR: jessid did not mention what type of session05:48
sambagirlcli yes05:48
dabaRnalioth: I thought he meant a gnome-session] 05:49
varhmmm unspecified session = x-session ?05:49
dabaRLinux_n00b: added multiverse?05:49
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dabaRI would think so05:49
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varcould be chat session05:49
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dabaRthats wh jessid should be more specific.05:50
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adriyel__ctrl-alt-F2....05:50
varnalioth: we do not excuse those we are forced to solute05:50
varthen why the [ctrl]  ??????05:51
ScOrPiO-druid-Wadpkg: error processing w32codecs_*.deb (--install):05:51
ScOrPiO-druid-Wa cannot access archive: No such file or directory05:51
ScOrPiO-druid-WaErrors were encountered while processing:05:51
ScOrPiO-druid-Wa w32codecs_*.deb05:51
ScOrPiO-druid-Wadruid@ubuntu:~$05:51
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adriyel__var, try hitting ctrl-alt-F205:51
dabaRScOrPiO-druid-Wa: you downloaded it into another folder...05:52
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Linux_n00bdabaR I dind't see anything about multiverse..05:52
ScOrPiO-druid-WaDesktop05:52
ScOrPiO-druid-Wa....05:52
naliothScOrPiO-druid-Wa: please dont paste in here05:52
icemanok, stupid question, in gnome there is a mac style menu bar, what is it, where to get it05:52
varwhy would i want to add the [ctrl]  key.   in console the third key is not needed  ;p05:52
ScOrPiO-druid-Walol05:52
naliothiceman: you mean gdesklets?05:52
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adriyel__var, you're in console eh?05:52
adriyel__what irc client do you use?05:53
jessidnalioth text based...in a console05:53
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dabaRiceman: dock-style app?05:53
icemannalioth be my guess, can you apt get it ..  ?05:53
naliothjessid: yes, see my original answer05:53
varxchat-text   BitchX somethimes though05:53
naliothiceman: yes you can, make sure you have universe and multiverse enabled05:53
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icemannalioth thanks ...05:54
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varadriyel__: i guess you also think i'm root      hehhe.05:54
dabaRiceman: install openssh-server package on the machine you want to log into. look into dyndns.org free domain names, and ez-ipupdate package, to get a domain(instead of connecting through IP addresses.)_ and then ssh username@hostname from the computer you are logging in from.05:55
dabaRjessid: the iceman message above is for you.05:55
dabaRiceman: sorry.05:55
jessidnalioth so the command is ssh?05:55
josh43Any way I can mount my ntfs drives so I can read them as a regular user? (I can read them as root right now)05:55
dabaRjosh43: have you read the ntfs factoid from ubuntu?05:55
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adriyelheheh05:56
dooglusjessid: ssh user@host.com05:56
adriyelxchat-text eh? :)05:56
ScOrPiO-druid-WadebR so the files on my Desktop what do i type in Terminal to install it m805:56
varjosh43: umask=005:56
josh43dabaR, I tried the wiki, and I just found a placeholder05:56
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abarbacciahey all - i need some help with fans on MB headers and ubuntu - i want to reduce the voltage to a fan because its SO FREAKIN LOUD05:56
dabaRjosh43: read what ubotu sent you, its pretty handy05:56
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adriyelwow, I need framebuffer for this. I am going to die05:57
josh43var; instead of default?05:57
icemannalioth ok, now got gdesklets, now where to get plugin's05:57
adriyelsourceforge.net @ nalioth?05:57
varjosh43: with default    default,umask=005:57
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naliothiceman: visit the gdesklets homepage05:58
josh43var=Perfect, thanks05:58
var:)05:58
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=== dabaR thinks along the lines... Im not a d*ckHead, Im a d*ck, head.Let me handle my d*ck head.
dabaRok, sorry05:59
naliothdabaR: ot05:59
dabaRdunno why I had that ida05:59
dabaRidea06:00
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adriyel__dabar, wth?06:00
naliothadriyel__: OT along with dabaR06:00
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ams_how do i check my ip address?06:01
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dabaRams_: ifconfig in a terminal works06:02
chet_awesomelaseifconfig should do it06:02
adriyel__nalioth, was that a rebuke? :(06:02
var /whois ams_06:02
josh43dabaR, Thanks for the heads up on that - var found what I was missing, but that cleared up a couple other isses, thanks06:02
naliothadriyel__: please stay somewhat on topic06:02
ams_thanks dabar and var06:03
adriyel__nalioth, duly noted.06:03
dabaRjosh43: very useful script when setting up someone else's computer, personally, I dont mount ntfs, and I mount everything manually, cause I dont boot that often...06:03
adriyelvar06:03
adriyelvar, why does xchat-text have random numbers in the output?06:03
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Zealot87how do I get a microphone to work06:03
Zealot87and can someone send me the winmac fstab script please?06:03
varadriyel: mine doesn't06:03
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dabaRZealot87: ask the bot06:04
Zealot87how do i ask a bot06:04
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varerr i guess i should tell you adriyel i'm not on ubuntu06:04
adriyel__ubotu tell Zealot87 about microphones06:04
qiHEWSfi!tell nick topic i think06:04
Linux_n00bdabaR ok, I did all it said on that page..  as far as I can tell anyway..06:04
adriyel__bugger.06:04
Linux_n00band Im still not finding mplayer..06:04
adriyel__ubotu tell Zealot87 about sound06:04
dabaRZealot87: he told you. ubotu is his name, and he sent you a pm.06:04
Zealot87hahaha, i typed "microphones" and he said, "are you on ritalin"06:05
dabaRLinux_n00b: that is strange. I bet you did not enable multiverse. Wanna learn how to edit repos list in a terminal?06:05
adriyel__I think ubotu is cute...am I strange?06:05
ScOrPiO-druid-Waok so I installed the Codec .....will i be able to listen to Mp3s ????06:05
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Zealot87my drive is a VFAT drive though06:05
pudlandnalioth: stupid question.. how do you upgrade to breezy?06:05
Hobbsee!tell pudland about upgrade2breezy06:05
Linux_n00bdabaR yes, please, I use term much better than readin a bunch of crap that I don't understand..06:05
Linux_n00b;o)06:05
adriyel__sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:06
Linux_n00bsuper user mode?06:06
dabaRZealot87: I am not sure whether that is what winmac_fstab script mounts, but you can try.06:06
adriyel__@ pudland06:06
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dabaRLinux_n00b: open the terminal, and sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:06
Linux_n00bsuper user mode?06:06
qiHEWSfibtw, i am building an OS set on my ultra azo's ... currently planning on mandriva, ubuntu, kubuntu and openbsd. i have a couple of bootable system tools also. does this sound good?06:06
dabaRLinux_n00b: then paste it to http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl06:06
signo06:06
Linux_n00bdabaR super user mode??06:06
Linux_n00bor regular??06:06
dabaRLinux_n00b: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is a superuser prepended command, just use the commands I tell you...06:07
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Linux_n00bd00d..  do I need root or not??06:07
dabaRno, sudo works like root.06:07
naliothdabaR: winmac_fstab mounts ntfs (RO), vfat (RW) and hfsplus(RW)06:07
qiHEWSfishould i consider gentoo over openbsd?06:08
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Linux_n00bsee that wasn;t so hard now awas it../06:08
vardabaR: you should quote commands that you want people to copy and paste to terminals.....06:08
jessidthanks to all of you! This is why I love ubuntu, jejje06:08
ScOrPiO-druid-WaI Dl the Codec to the Home Dir now I still cant get Audio to come over the speekers ........06:08
dabaRLinux_n00b: took much longer than I wanted:P06:08
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naliothqiHEWSfi: ask that question in #freenode, please06:08
jessidchao y gracias again!06:08
dabaRLinux_n00b: Im getting carpal tunnel cause ppl dont follow exact instructions.06:08
qiHEWSfiok06:08
pudlandadriyel_:  whats that?06:08
Zealot87the sound problem page doesnt say anything about microphones06:09
dabaRvar: like, type in "sudo aptitude install dabaR" ?06:09
vardabaR: yes06:09
dabaRvar: thanks, Ill try.06:09
Linux_n00bdabaR well maybe if you were more direct with your answeres, you wouldn't..06:09
Linux_n00b:p06:09
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dabaRLinux_n00b: no, my job is stupid, I would anyhow.06:10
Linux_n00bok, so what am I doing with this huge list of stuff that popped up??06:10
dabaRAnd I type in a bad style, and I have bad posture...so...06:10
Linux_n00bim pasting that in somewhere??06:10
dabaRit should be the geditor, with a file. You are posting it to pastebin.06:10
dabaRscroll up for the URL.06:10
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Linux_n00bwhat should be the geditor..  and I posting what where??06:11
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Linux_n00bI thuink I see the URL..06:11
ScOrPiO-druid-Waman I still can play audio im a winer06:11
ScOrPiO-druid-Wacant06:11
Linux_n00bScOrPiO-druid-Wa, welcome to the club bro..06:12
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Linux_n00b:o/06:12
Zealot87soo06:12
Zealot87anyone know what to do with microphones hah06:12
Zealot87the sound debugging thing did nothing06:12
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dabaRLinux_n00b: well, I have finite patience, too...06:12
[Spooky] ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: what are you trying to do ?06:12
kjdisIs there no grub.conf on Kubuntu using kernel pkgs?06:13
dabaRLinux_n00b: :) open a terminal, a normal one, that is why i did not say a root terminal, and type in "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and then the editor window opens, so paste the contents of that file it opens to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl06:13
Linux_n00bok, how do I get it to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl  ??06:14
ScOrPiO-druid-Waman i cant even play an Mpg says i need a plug in fook06:14
dabaRcopy and paste06:14
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Linux_n00bcopy and paste where??06:14
naliothLinux_n00b: once you copy it, you can paste it at the pastebin06:14
sidUbuntu update manager has problem, it does not open06:14
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varjust an observation,  if dabaR and Linux_n00b would both /join #flood_3   and then Linux_n00b would type /exec -o cat /etc/apt/apt.conf      or what ever the name of that file is it would paste the file dirrectly to dabaR in an environment that would allow interaction.....      that is just a thought....06:14
Linux_n00bdo I paste the list into the termainal??06:14
dabaRScOrPiO-druid-Wa: what program are yo using?06:14
naliothLinux_n00b: open your browser to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl06:14
naliothLinux_n00b: and you'll see where to paste it06:15
dabaRvar: I was thinking the same thing, can you go help him, please?06:15
melvztechieLinux_noob: open the site with a browser -> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl06:15
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Linux_n00bok.. I see..06:15
varcan't steel you thounder dabaR.....06:15
dabaRLinux_n00b: a big thing about linux is trying something before asking for help.06:15
naliothLinux_n00b: "linux is for tinkerers"06:16
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Linux_n00bok, so I pasted it and now I hit send??06:16
[Spooky] ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: in what player ?06:16
dabaRLinux_n00b: try it...06:16
wtfnalioth: not true06:16
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dabaRot06:16
=== dabaR called it
sidapt, and synaptic are not working, can someone tellme what would be the problem06:17
dabaRsid: you tell us.06:17
Hobbseesid: any error messages?06:17
dabaRsid: what is not working...06:17
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Linux_n00bok I thik it's here--->   http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/358506:17
sidI type sudo apt-get update...... no response after I give the pw06:17
dabaRLinux_n00b: good06:17
dabaRLinux_n00b: see the word multiverse anywhere there?06:18
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Linux_n00bnope..06:18
dabaRok, you did not add it.06:18
naliothLinux_n00b: put a # in front of the bottom line, please06:18
sidWhen I try to open synaptic, its not opening too06:18
dabaRadd to that file multiverse on all lins that say universe. put multiverse on the end of the lines.06:19
dabaRLinux_n00b: and heed nalioth's advice, too06:19
ScOrPiO-druid-Waok heres a Good Question How do i map a network drive?06:19
Linux_n00bthis--->  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3586   ??06:19
D1whoo hoo! got turboprint to work.06:19
D1now my setup is complete!06:19
Linux_n00bcongrats D106:19
dabaRsid: full hard disk?06:19
Linux_n00b:)06:19
D1thanks. =] 06:20
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dabaRtalk2me: nice nick06:20
D1I dont know why i keep windows around anymore, I never use it.06:20
D1I just fear I'll get something from school requiring it.06:20
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talk2mehey dabaR06:20
dabaRme neither, but always good to have a backup.06:20
DShepher1d1: :-D06:20
Linux_n00bD1 im workin my way over..06:20
D1yeah.06:20
varsid you didn't rm sudo did you ?06:20
Linux_n00b:)06:20
naliothLinux_n00b: everywhere you see "universe" make it say "universe multiverse"06:20
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talk2meneed help06:20
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talk2metryinhg to install PEAR06:20
D1the only thing I miss is a good full featured ftp client.06:21
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D1but filezilla will be ported to linux soon06:21
Linux_n00bnalioth, ok then what??06:21
D1and thats gonna rock06:21
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talk2mecan anyone help me installing pear?06:21
naliothLinux_n00b: save it, and sudo apt-get update06:21
DShepher1D1.. I miss the nice games ;(06:21
DShepher1:(06:21
dabaRnalioth: aptitude:)06:21
sidI did not do "rm sudo"06:21
D1luckly, I don't play many games.06:21
dabaRsid: that would not do anything06:21
D1but on the rare occassion I have windows around I suppose.06:21
Linux_n00bOH!!  u mean in the gedit form.. yes??06:21
dabaRtalk2me: change your nick, its weird. do you go to "chat" channels with that?06:22
sidI am checking if my HD is full06:22
dabaRdf -h06:22
varsid "which sudo"    if sudo is not there it will give the odd results you have described.06:22
ScOrPiO-druid-Wamy fucking questions are donr being answerd in here i guess06:22
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dabaRScOrPiO-druid-Wa: you did not answer ours.06:22
Linux_n00bnalioth, OH!!  u mean in the gedit form.. yes??06:22
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sidhow can I add sudo06:22
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dabaRLinux_n00b: ya, there, not on the web page:)06:23
ScOrPiO-druid-Waim buys trying to do what u say06:23
testhello06:23
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dabaRScOrPiO-druid-Wa: what app are you running it in, was the question06:23
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naliothScOrPiO-druid-Wa: your tongue needs controlling. cursing doesnt help things06:23
Linux_n00band I need to add ## on the very last line.??06:23
dabaRiam2cool: haha, thats better.06:23
iam2coolhaha06:23
dabaRok, so, pear, for php? there is no package...06:23
DShepher1ok..I know this is off /topic but... has anyone really used Base in openoffice.org?06:23
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dmlinuxsc0rpi0-druid-wa heres an idea, dont have a dumbass name that people have trouble typing06:23
sidwhich sudo = "/usr/bin/sudo06:23
sid"06:23
varsid does "which sudo" say 'no file found' or something like that ?      (sounds like a path error maybe)06:23
dabaRsid, see its there.06:23
josh43ANyone have experience with ubuntu and wayv?06:23
vark06:23
dabaRsid, what about the hard drive?06:24
MadpilotDShepher1: there's a #openoffice.org channel06:24
ScOrPiO-druid-Waim trying to get a simple Mp3 Audio file to ply in XMMS or any application that will just play the simple file06:24
sidI can't check that also06:24
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vardisreguard the former ^06:24
iam2cooldabaR .. installed xampp so it came with pear..06:24
DShepher1Madpilot:  I know...i often go there...no one talks in there though...nothing06:24
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sidSystem-> Administration-> Disks ---- thats not working too06:24
ecobuntudoes anyone use Xubuntu in here?06:24
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sidhow can I check free space in HD06:24
josh__hi06:24
naliothubotu: tell ScOrPiO-druid-Wa about mp306:25
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ecobuntuand if you do do you know how to make XFCE4 automatically locate your flashdrive?06:25
varsid "ls -l /usr/bin/sudo "  is it executable ?06:25
adriyel__ecobuntu, creative.06:25
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ecobuntucreative?06:25
ecobuntuoh my nick?06:25
ecobuntui see06:25
ecobuntui'm an ecologist06:25
josh__ok look i just installed ubuntu but im stuck on a low resolution. is there a way to fix this?06:25
var<sid> how can I check free space in HD <--- "df -h "06:25
naliothubotu: tell josh__ about fixres06:25
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dabaRjosh__: ask the bot about resolution06:26
josh__THANKS!!!06:26
Linux_n00bok, I think I got it..  like this??  ----->   http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/358706:26
chickFlickhow can I test that I have installed PEAR06:26
sid-rwsr-xr-x  1 root root 93076 2005-09-30 16:11 /usr/bin/sudo06:26
josh43josh__, You may want to look at the binarydriverhowto as well to bump up your graphics a bit and fix the res all in one go06:26
dabaRchickFlick: wth? did you install it or not?06:26
ScOrPiO-druid-Wawhat do those links have to do with playing an Mp3 File ?06:26
sidFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on06:26
sid/dev/hda5             7.2G  2.5G  4.4G  37% /06:26
sidtmpfs                 502M     0  502M   0% /dev/shm06:26
sidtmpfs                 502M   13M  490M   3% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/volatile06:26
ScOrPiO-druid-Wai dont wanna Decode the file06:27
josh43ScOrPiO-druid-Wa, Yes you do06:27
ScOrPiO-druid-Wai do06:27
chickFlickdabaR: i installed xamp06:27
dabaRchickFlick: did you install php4-pear?06:27
josh43ScOrPiO-druid-Wa, You need to decode to play06:27
sector10ahow do i turn off glx?06:27
ScOrPiO-druid-Waahh06:27
dabaRchickFlick: do you know what to do with it at all?06:27
Linux_n00bdabaR is that correct??   -->  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/358706:27
ScOrPiO-druid-Wakk06:28
chickFlickdabaR: xampp comes with it... yes i kinda know how to use it.. but how to install it?06:28
Linux_n00bexcept for the ##  at the last line..06:28
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chickFlickdabaR: or how to check if it is installed?06:28
varhmmm sid you say synaptic wont open and apt-get hangs, or errors out; which one?06:28
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ScOrPiO-druid-Wasudo apt-get install k3b-mp3 <------I did that .....:)06:29
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sector10awhy isnt lbstdc installed by default?06:29
omoorei'm running ubuntu live cd on my laptop next to me... it's connected via land line (nic).. i want to install 'make' .. can someone advise please06:29
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Linux_n00b:op06:30
omoorenot sure how (under ubuntu) to find/install packages that contain a particular program06:30
Dr_Willisnot sure the live cd can install stuff.06:30
ScOrPiO-druid-Waok i did the Decoder thing06:30
sidno error messages when I do apt-get update, there is just no response06:30
sector10aomoore: like what?06:30
omooremake06:30
omoorethe live cd version doesn't have it installed06:30
sector10aomoore: use synaptic06:31
omooreif ound the package for gcc06:31
omoorebut, not make06:31
omoorek06:31
omoorei'll man synaptic06:31
dabaRLinux_n00b: put a # on the beginning of the last line, save the file in the gedit window, close the window with the little x in the top right, and then "alias u='sudo aptitude update'" <enter> then "u"  <enter> type in your password, and then se it update, and then "alias i='sudo aptitude install'" <enter> i mplayer-(_insert_ _your_ _architecture_ _here_) <enter> and then you have it installed.06:31
dabaR!+find mplayer06:31
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'mplayer' (11 shown): mozilla-mplayer ;; mplayer-386 ;; mplayer-586 ;; mplayer-686 ;; mplayer-custom ;; mplayer-doc ;; mplayer-fonts ;; mplayer-k6 ;; mplayer-k7 ;; mplayer-nogui ;; xmms-xmmplayer.06:31
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varomoore: also 'build-essentials' or some such has to be installed.06:32
sector10aomoore: its there06:32
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sector10ascroll down to m06:32
omoorei assume when i install the package for make, it'll include dependent packages06:32
omooresector10a, k06:32
ScOrPiO-druid-Waok So i did this sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3 in terminal now What ?06:32
sector10aomoore: of course06:32
dabaRLinux_n00b: there should be a "" around the "i mplayer-()" <enter> above.06:33
sector10aomoore: if thats all you want06:33
omooresector10a, i was using the gui package manager06:33
sector10aomoore: oh06:33
omooreand searched for make there.. it didn't show a package.. wasn't sure what ubuntu used for pakcage management.. thx.. waiting for it to finish booting now...06:34
omoorei'm sure i'll easily find it with synaptic06:34
sector10aomoore: my notebook is know running well06:34
dabaRchickFlick: well, whatever, to see whether it is installed, the easiest thing would be to search for it, "aptitude search php4-pear php-pear" and see whether there is an i on the left of it.06:34
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P8ntKidCan anybody post there fluxbox menu file in #flood please?06:34
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SourcerorDoes anyone know how to keep the obnoxious mplayer plugin for Mozilla from stealing my MP3 files?  It's buggy as hell and I'm already running XMMS, and plus I can only have one program use sound at a time.06:34
sector10aomoore: click search06:34
ScOrPiO-druid-Wahh06:34
SourcerorEvery day I feel more and more like my computer's bitch...06:34
sidcan I install KDE in Ubuntu ?06:35
omooresector10a, lol.. in the gui app? i did.. maybe the live cd just doesn't have a full package list06:35
sector10aomoore: type make, if it does not find it, then page down06:35
josh43Sourceror, Welcome to the new era of computing06:35
r0dsid yea06:35
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naliothP8ntKid: visit fluxbox.sourceforge.net, they have a nice sample menu there06:35
sector10aomoore: live huh!06:35
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sidjust by using apt-get ?06:35
dabaRSourceror: just remove stupid programs like that.06:35
FOOKITther i fixes my name AKA DRUID WALKER06:35
sector10aomoore:  do apt-get i06:35
r0din synaptic look for kubuntu-desktop06:35
P8ntKidnalioth, Where is the nice "sample" menu?06:36
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naliothP8ntKid: in the faq06:36
sidmany thanks06:36
sector10aomoore:  do.  sudo apt-get install make06:36
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dabaRP8ntKid: tried openbox?06:36
SourcerorFather, I think I convinced some poor soul to install Ubuntu today...06:36
sector10aomoore:  i dont use ubuntu live06:37
tarheelcoxnanybody having trouble getting to multiverse?06:37
tarheelcoxnI'm getting 404s06:37
sector10alast time way to slow06:37
FOOKIThey I did what the page said on Mp3 Decodeing and now im lost06:37
varomoore: if you know your way around a console "man apt-cache "  really handy for searching for packages.06:37
tarheelcoxnsector10a: if you have 512 MB or RAM or more, you should try loading to RAM06:37
tarheelcoxnit'll be MUCH faster06:37
naliothP8ntKid: here is a nice howto http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fluxbox06:38
P8ntKiddabaR, No06:38
omooresector10a, ahh. .just saw the gui synaptic package mangaer i was using "Add Application"06:38
dabaRtarheelcoxn: thats cause you have us. in front of some rows, or the repos are down for a while at the worst.06:38
sector10ais there another way to tweak graphic settings other than xorg.conf?06:38
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P8ntKidnalioth, I know how to make a menu. I just want it to look cool. Like this one. http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/zoom.php?shots-dev/majes_fluxbox.jpg06:38
omooresector10a, ahhh.. much better06:38
sector10aomoore:  lol06:38
dabaRP8ntKid: you should, I roll up all my windows in that program, it is very sweet.06:38
dabaRsleek06:38
omoorevar, yes.. i do.. thx.. didn't know ubuntu was apt based.. cool06:38
naliothP8ntKid: then having us randomly send you menus isnt gonna do it06:38
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dabaRlater06:39
sector10aomoore: yep06:39
sector10aomoore: !apt06:39
omoorethis synaptic app is cool06:39
sector10a!apt06:39
ubotuwell, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto06:39
omoorebeats the pants off of rhm06:39
P8ntKiddabaR, Whats better about openbox then fluxbox?06:39
omoore(red hat manager gui app thingy)06:39
P8ntKidnalioth, Then how do i make it look cool06:39
sector10atype ! plus key word06:39
varwell it has dpkg as the package manager omoore, and apt as a front end to that.06:40
dabaRP8ntKid: try it, it is at most 5 seconds to start.06:40
omoorevar .. ahh06:40
naliothP8ntKid: you06:40
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dabaRP8ntKid: universe.06:40
sector10abut you can use the bot yourself06:40
nalioth'll have to learn how using the fluxbox howtos06:40
omoorejust from what i see off the live cdrom so far.. i'm planning on installing ubutnu.. very clean efficient distro so far06:41
sector10aomoore: type "!vim"06:41
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dabaRsector10a: read messages from ubotu06:41
FOOKITim installing K3b is that relivent to playing Mp3s?06:41
omooresearcher`, omore loves vi, it's even his command line interpretror (ie.. set -o vi)06:41
tarheelcoxndabaR: I tried without us.06:41
dabaRFOOKIT: its a burning program.06:41
tarheelcoxndifferent error06:41
tarheelcoxnstill can't get anything06:41
omooresearcher`, sorry.. that was for sector10a06:41
n0odl3how do i listen to internet radio broadcasts?06:41
varhehhe i get a vim not installed error   :)06:41
dabaRFOOKIT: you can ask the bot what a package does.06:41
sector10athose are good messages06:42
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FOOKITok i did the Decodeing Mp3 thing now what do i need to do >06:42
FOOKIT?06:42
tarheelcoxn"Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com'"06:42
P8ntKiddabaR,  I have used it before. I dont really like it.06:42
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n0odl3does anyone know how to listen to radio broadcasts?06:42
dabaRhaha, thats prolly illegal06:42
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dabaRP8ntKid: ok06:42
sector10aanyway for anybody who is interested06:42
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n0odl3does anyone know?06:43
sector10ai solved the graphic problem with my nvidia06:43
chickFlickdabaR: aptitude search php4-pear php-pear06:43
chickFlickp   php4-pear                                             - PEAR - PHP Extension and Application Repository06:43
chickFlickp   php4-pear-log                                         - Log module for PEAR06:43
dabaRchickFlick: ask the bot about paste06:43
AgamottoNoodl3:  sudo apt-get install streamtuner06:43
naliothchickFlick: please do not paste in here06:43
Linux_n00bmy brain hurts..06:43
Linux_n00bbbl06:43
sector10ajust remove some options from xorg.conf06:43
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bur[n] ern0odl3: i go to shoutcast.com and just pick a station06:43
dabaRi hope that guy installed it...:D06:43
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sector10aglx is not working right so just remove it06:44
bur[n] ern0odl3: you might want to check out "streamtuner" though06:44
sector10ai can add it later always06:44
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naliothn0odl3: vlc also plays streaming media06:44
dabaRchickFlick: the p means you did not install it, so isntall the php4-pear, "sudo aptitude install php4-pear"<enter>06:44
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metrixI am looking for a "calendar sharing" program.. can anyone lead me in the right direction?06:45
Agamottometrix:  Hmmm, Evolution?06:45
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sector10athere is one good web based one06:46
dooglusis it possible to run a dapper 'gdm' at the same time as breezy's gdm is running?06:46
metrixagamotto: i've tried evolution, but I can't seem to find documentation on how to point it to a webserver calendar (or even how to set one up!)06:46
dmlinuxanyone know if Battelfield2 works with wine :P hehe06:46
metrixI think that may be my problem. just how to create a multi-user calander06:46
varcalendar ?????    cal & at    :)06:46
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Agamottometrix:  I can understand that, unfortunately, it isn't something I have ever needed myself06:46
naliothdooglus: theoretically, but i imagine you'd end up with a broken box06:46
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sector10ametrix: for home or server06:47
chickFlickdabaR : thanks.. now its installed...06:47
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varmetrix: you didn't mean from scratch tho.....06:47
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chickFlickdabar: i am suppossed run somethign for the pear configuration right?06:47
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dooglusnalioth: the problem at the moment is that the dapper chroot doesn't see my mouse in /dev/input/mice06:47
metrixsector10a: I would like it on a server. so it could be shared06:47
metrixvar: no not from scratch06:47
sector10aim using one06:47
sector10afor a few people06:48
naliothdooglus: dapper just started today, iirc, give it some time06:48
dooglusnalioth: does that mean I need to run udev?  or mount the real /dev inside the chroot?  or what?06:48
metrixsector10a what are you using? do you know of any good howto's?06:48
dooglusnalioth: it's currently the same as breezy, so it's a good time to get it working06:48
naliothdooglus: heh, i'm just a user of may years, i know not those words06:48
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ubenguinhello all...damn I screwed up; hope someone can help... I killed grub (it's a long story), and while trying to reinstall it I deleted my initrd and vmlinux in /boot06:48
abarbacciahey all - i need some help with fans on MB headers and ubuntu - i want to reduce the voltage to a fan because its SO FREAKIN LOUD06:48
sector10ametrix: let me see what we got06:49
sector10ametrix: i think its called just calendar06:49
dooglusubenguin: do you want copies of those files?06:49
ubenguindooglus: no06:49
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dooglusubenguin: so what do you want?06:49
sidsudo does not work for me :(06:49
n0odl3where is vlc located06:49
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ubenguindooglus: oh..duh, I thought it said do I have copies06:49
n0odl3i cant find the location so i can open it with vlc06:49
metrixsector10a LOL it's that easy.. how are you sharing it?06:50
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dooglusn0odl3: it's in universe06:50
sun_hi06:50
FOOKITif this is the CMD to install sudo dpkg -i realplayer_*.deb , what it the cmd to uninstall?06:50
ubenguindooglus: so it's as simple as that?06:50
sun_anyone here06:50
dabaRno06:50
n0odl3i mean in the file system06:50
naliothn0odl3: enable universe and multiverse06:50
sun_i'm new06:50
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dabaRme 406:50
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dooglusn0odl3: vlc is /usr/bin/vlc06:50
sun_hahaha06:50
sun_heheh06:50
sun_ye06:50
Agamottosun_:  Welcome aboard06:50
varsid:  have you added a user or changer your user account ?06:51
metrixsector10a is it via a web page?06:51
dooglusubenguin: if all you've done is deleted those 2 files, then putting them back should sort you out06:51
sidyes I deleted a user and added another user06:51
sector10ahttp://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php06:51
tritiumsid: did you delete the first user you created?06:51
ubenguindooglus: I thought the initrd was different for each computer, just a generic file?06:51
sidyes06:51
varthats it.  you are not in the /etc/sudoers file06:51
dooglussid: when you create a user, make sure you give them admin privaleges.  it's in the 'advanced' tab I think06:51
sector10ametrix: i hope i dont have that version lol06:51
dooglusubenguin: it's a binary in the .deb file I think06:51
spudseHow can I run sudo commands in sessions-->startup ?06:51
varsid you will probably have to reboot to single user mode to fix it.06:52
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n0odl3thanks06:52
n0odl3its working06:52
sidyes, its not even opening06:52
ubenguindooglus: well, it's worth a try, so you know where I can get them?06:52
tritiumsid: yes, reboot into single-user mode, then adduser <username> admin06:52
varunless you have set a root passwd, the only way to get to root is single06:52
metrixsector10a thanks for the help! I will research this06:52
dooglusubenguin: i might be wrong about that.  I can't find boot/initrd in any package.  sorry!06:52
sector10ametrix: i can view other peoples appointments06:52
sector10agood luck06:53
sidok I will try that06:53
ubenguindooglus: didn't think it was a package... :006:53
sidgive me the exact command06:53
dabaRhe did06:53
sidyou mean I shold login to safe mode06:53
ubenguindooglus: I didn't think of that though , let me google for it real quick06:53
dabaRrecovery, , then "adduser <username> admin"06:54
varsid: tritium or he could just edit /etc/sudoers when in single user and change his old user name to the new one.06:54
qiHEWSfii am going to download mandriva from a ftp server which has the distro in a directory tree. does ubuntu come with a graphical ftp program and/or which would be a good one?06:54
varsid not safe mode    "1"06:54
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tritiumvar: I'd add the user to the admin group, as dabaR pointed out06:54
sidok, I think I can do it06:55
metrixsector10a: LOL actually that's ok.. it's small enough group that it won't be a problem. it's just for a small office.06:55
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qiHEWSfino problem i found the isos =)06:55
dooglusubenguin: I guess what you need to do is download the linux-image-2.6.12-9-386.deb and initramfs-tools.deb packages from packages.ubuntu.com and then boot into 'rescue' mode and install them with dpkg -i06:55
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dooglusubenguin: if you're lucky, the .deb files are already in your package cache, /var/cache/apt/archives/06:56
tritiumdabaR: :)06:56
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dooglusqiHEWSfi: friends don't help friends download mandriva isos06:56
ubenguindooglus: and I would just run initramfs? after I install them?06:56
vartritium: well there may be 'gui' reasons for that, i agree; but just editing sudoers will give access to root via sudo and from there any other fix can be applied06:56
dooglusubenguin: I think that installing the kernel will make the initrd for you06:57
ubenguindooglus: aahhh06:57
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ubenguindooglus: sounds like it might work...I'll give it a shot and check back; thanks06:57
tritiumvar: yes, the main thing is to get sudoer priveleges06:57
absolute_hi, i just installed ubuntu 5.04, and i never got to set a root passwd.. can i do that now?06:58
dabaRvar: group admin is not a gui thing:)06:58
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tritiumabsolute_: you can, but you're encouraged to try sudo instead06:58
qiHEWSfidooglus i am going to install ubuntu, kubuntu and edubuntu and mandriva on my machine..06:58
sector10ametrix: do it in groups of 406:59
absolute_yes but how can i do the upgrades in gui with sudo?06:59
qiHEWSfidooglus later on gentoo and openbsd06:59
dabaRabsolute_: just use your password06:59
tritium!tell absolute_ about rootsudo06:59
absolute_it dosnt work06:59
qiHEWSfidooglus totally hooked on linux =)06:59
tritiumit does, absolute_06:59
absolute_ok ill try06:59
dooglusqiHEWSfi: I hear OpenSUSE 10 is worth a look too, if you're in the mood06:59
qiHEWSfidooglus nice to know thanks07:00
propagandhiyeah Suse 10 is very good07:00
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adriyel__propagandhi, um. no.07:00
sector10ano its not07:00
dooglusqiHEWSfi: http://madpenguin.org/cms/html/47/5382.html07:00
propagandhiyes it certainly is07:00
varabsolute_: yes you can set a root passwd now if you wish.   "sudo passwd "  and first enter your user password then set the root password.07:00
FOOKITsorry what dose this mean im gonna post it just once plz dont get mad07:00
FOOKITUnpacking realplayer (from realplayer_10.0.4-0.2_i386.deb) ...07:00
FOOKITdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of realplayer:07:00
FOOKIT realplayer depends on libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1); however:07:00
FOOKIT  Package libstdc++5 is not installed.07:00
FOOKITdpkg: error processing realplayer (--install):07:00
FOOKIT dependency problems - leaving unconfigured07:00
FOOKITErrors were encountered while processing:07:01
sector10abad on my notebook07:01
FOOKIT realplayer07:01
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dabaRFOOKIT: ask the bot about paste07:01
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sector10asuse 10 has bzflag and it works07:01
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dabaRyou guys are fast07:01
dabaRlol07:01
sector10athats all07:01
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sector10alol07:01
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icemanok, anyone, any game's lilke Diablo available for linux, that are multiplayer online07:02
josh__ey guys. who wansta help a noob07:02
adriyel__g'night all07:02
naliothFOOKIT: please dont paste in here07:02
naliothjosh__: ask your question07:02
dabaRjosh__: ask the bot about ask07:02
sector10aFOOKIT: like, wered you get the name?07:02
qiHEWSfidooglus i think i will have suse instead of mandriva07:02
josh__how07:02
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bhearsumdoes the x.org version that comes with breezy have the Composite extension?07:02
sector10amandrival and sukse huh?07:02
dabaRjosh__: he told you.07:02
dooglusqiHEWSfi: at least SUSE is properly free now.07:02
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qiHEWSfidooglus a programmin platform is much more useful than another windows clone07:03
propagandhiwhilst ubuntu is my absolute preferred, suse has always been a really good distro07:03
absolute_thanks tritium07:03
varmmmmm mandrake-vay07:03
chickFlickdabaR: how can I make pear work ?07:03
josh__lol07:03
josh__i dont like the bot07:03
chickFlickdabar : now its installed..07:03
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dabaRchickFlick: did you install the thing yet???07:03
dabaRha07:03
chickFlickdabaR : yes07:03
sector10adooglus: its a nice distro except for wireless07:03
p0windahchickFlick: they've just php files you include in your code...07:03
p0windahthey're07:04
dabaRchickFlick: it works now, wdo you know how t use it?07:04
josh__look guys i just want to know how to get good resolution on my pc07:04
sector10adooglus: ubuntu's wireless works out of box07:04
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sector10adooglus: in suse the eth0 and eth1 were reversed07:05
propagandhidepending on your wireless card07:05
wickedpuppyjosh__, system -> preference -> screen resolution07:05
FOOKITwhen i install Realplyer theres a Dependency error .........07:05
sector10aand acpi07:05
josh__no im not that noobish07:05
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dabaRjosh__: ask the bot about resolution07:05
FOOKITim that noobish07:05
sector10aits more than the wireless device07:05
wickedpuppyjosh__, you said you are a noob07:06
josh__i only have 1 resolution there its 640x48007:06
wickedpuppynow you said you are not07:06
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josh__im a linux noob07:06
dooglussector10a: apparently wireless is a lot better in SUSE 1007:06
josh__not a pc noob07:06
josh__or a cs noob07:06
FOOKITim a noob i need help :(07:06
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dabaRstop about that, its not helping anyone07:06
dooglussector10a: I'll be staying with ubuntu anyway.07:06
propagandhisector10a: my wireless functions just as well on suse as it does under ubuntu07:06
sector10adooglus: a little07:06
sidhow do it restart in single user mode07:06
locustI'm so happy. I have 3D acceleration now!07:06
Uchihadoes ubuntu support apple internal modems?07:06
dooglussid: sudo init 107:06
wickedpuppyjosh__, your graphics card ?07:06
varjosh__: maybe  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "07:06
p0windahI'm not a noob but can anyone tell me where c: drive is in ubuntu ?07:07
josh__see thats where im a noob07:07
sector10awell i think my nvidia card/graphics were casausing problems07:07
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josh__where do i typr tht07:07
dabaRsid: you gotta leave the channel, reboot, and press escape at some poit during the boot to see the menu, then select recovery mode. then the command, that you wrote down by now07:07
wickedpuppyjosh__, terminal07:07
sector10ai know that sounds crazy07:07
propagandhijosh__: what is the resolution you're trying to achieve07:07
dooglusp0windah: C: is a windows thing.07:07
FOOKIT Package libstdc++5 is not installed07:07
josh__but it said i have to be in root to type that07:07
dabaRFOOKIT: are you that guy that pasted?07:07
p0windahdooglus: I'm not a noob, I know my computer has a c: drive07:07
cahoonehi everybody07:07
sidOk07:07
FOOKITyeah07:07
agtlol07:07
naliothp0windah: there is no C: drive or anything like it07:07
josh__at least 1024x72007:08
FOOKITi need help so bad07:08
dabaRFOOKIT: do what ubotu told you07:08
p0windah</troll>07:08
sector10adooglus: i removed some lines in xorg.cong and now my wirless and mousetter work be07:08
sector10amouse work better07:08
wickedpuppyjosh__, sudo07:08
sector10adman07:08
FOOKITdid every shared of what the bot sait07:08
varsid use the key "E" to edit the entry in grub before the boot peocess begins.  and add  "1"  to the line that boots ubuntu  then use "B" to boot into single user mode.07:08
josh__how do i get to root?07:08
FOOKITsaid07:08
deangWould someone mind cluing me in on the difference between VIM for Gnome and GTK?07:08
sidexit07:08
icemanwhere could i find screenshots of cedega in action ..07:08
sector10alol07:08
UchihaHey07:08
Uchihaso07:08
Uchihaanyway07:08
dabaRdeang: why is this important?07:08
SirrushHello Everyone07:08
josh__ok hold on07:08
Uchihado apple internal modems work with ubuntu?07:08
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tritiumHi Sirrush07:09
wickedpuppyjosh__, did you type sudo as well ?07:09
p0windahiceman: are you thinking of paying those criminals ?07:09
SirrushHowdy tritium07:09
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josh__ok im at the terminal07:09
deangdabaR: Inquiring mind.07:09
josh__i havent typed anything yet07:09
propagandhitrue, why would you pay?!07:09
dabaRjosh__: then scroll up and see the command07:09
wickedpuppyjosh__, then type what var told ya07:09
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cahooneis there any video editor in ubuntu synaptic??07:09
cahooneI tried Kino but there's no way to add sound to your video07:09
dabaRdeang: did you install both and seen for yourself?07:09
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josh__last time i put anything in it it turned off my pc07:09
naliothcahoone: several07:10
josh__ok ill try07:10
varsid when finished in single user mode type init 5    (or what ever your normal runlevel is.)07:10
propagandhihas anyone seen Revolution OS07:10
cahoonereally? like what?07:10
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wickedpuppyjosh__, anything ? what about ls ?07:10
lymzthere used to be a "display settings" application under system >administration; where did it go? (i'm on a fresh install of breezy)07:10
UchihaGee, can I use my apple internal modem with ubuntu?07:10
bob2var: 2.07:10
josh__whats ls do07:10
josh__?07:10
naliothUchiha: yes, you should be able to use your apple modem07:10
Uchihathanks07:10
p0windaha.k.a dir in windows josh__07:11
varub defaults to 2    hmmmmm  ok07:11
wickedpuppyjosh__, instead of asking us what each command does ... you can either try it or do man <command>07:11
deangdabaR: it's one or the other. vim-gnome or vim-gtk.  I would prefer a URL or quick summary.07:11
naliothubotu: tell josh__ about cli07:11
wickedpuppyif not you will never be a linux pro07:11
p0windahor quite telling us he isnt a noob07:11
p0windahquit, rather07:11
bob2var: as does debian and other non-rh-based systems07:11
iceman#cedega07:11
wickedpuppyso p0windah have you found ya C drive in ubuntu ?07:12
josh__i typed that stuff u told me and it said  Package `xserver' is not installed and no info is available.07:12
josh__Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,07:12
josh__and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.07:12
josh__/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver is not installed07:12
vari've set up linux with only 2 runlevels run and reboot    and i've changed the same system to have 12 runlevels   it is all in /etc/inittab  bob207:12
p0windahwickedpuppy: yeah, I pulled my head out of my ass and found it07:12
naliothjosh__: please dont paste in here07:12
bob2var: yes, I know how it works07:12
josh__ok07:13
josh__sorry07:13
tritiumjosh__: it's xserver-xorg, and please don't paste07:13
p0windahwickedpuppy: I was mocking myself there, not you btw07:13
josh__im just trying to get help07:13
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josh__what do i do then?07:13
varlast time i used it slakware used rl 4 as gui mode07:13
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varjosh it is xserver-xorg  not xserver07:14
deadLikeMedabaR: installed pear.. but there are so many DB.php files07:15
josh__ok i typed ls and it just says " desktop" in blue07:15
cahoonei looked for iMira and Lives and Broadcast 2000 & Avidemux but only found Kino07:15
cahoonefor video editors07:15
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stjepanhello07:15
naliothcahoone: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?07:15
starlighthi07:15
deadLikeMehello07:15
stjepanis ubuntu really unstable?07:15
bob2stjepan: of course not07:15
cahooneonly universe07:15
dabaRdeadLikeMe: I cant teach you to use pear, ask in #php or something.07:15
AIOello07:16
bob2stjepan: please don't believe or spread stupid rumours07:16
p0windahstjepan: no07:16
DShepher1breezy...for desktop, for school, for servers...Ubuntu; Brown Sugar is good for you :)07:16
stjepanbut slackware, debian and other distros are more stable07:16
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varjosh__: maybe  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "  <---- note not 'xserver'  but  'xserver-xorg'  major differance there.07:16
cahoonei'll add multiverse, then, and look again07:16
Agamottostjepan:  Please define stable07:16
naliothcahoone: enable multiverse and you'll fine many more video editors07:16
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ParisiBack07:16
cahooneok thanks07:17
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josh__okokok07:17
stjepanno crashing :)07:17
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cool_guyhello ppl07:17
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stjepanno missed libarries :)07:17
starlighthi07:17
cool_guycan sumone help me on ubuntu 5.04????07:17
bob2stjepan: please stop it07:17
josh__i did it and it wants to know how much memory to give my gfx card07:17
bob2stjepan: or leave, your choice07:17
josh__how much should i give it?07:17
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naliothjosh__: how much memory is on your graphics card?07:17
bob2stjepan: semi-coherent clueless rambling about ubuntu being "unstable" is off-topic and silly07:17
bob2josh__: leave it blank07:18
josh__i dunno07:18
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josh__ok07:18
varjosh__: it also says if you dont know leave it blank07:18
stjepanare there free shipit kubuntu cds?07:18
Agamottocool_guy:  Go ahead07:18
bob2stjepan: read the kubuntu website (no)07:18
furicHey, im trying to sort out hibernation on my hoary installation, on another box (well, this one, im connected via vnc from the problem pc so i can reboot and stuff) everything is fine, but on the problem pc i get a kernel panic and the console freezes, is there any log file i can look at to see what was off screen when it froze?07:18
dabaRstjepan: see at shipit.ubuntu.com07:18
p0windahstjepan: what does the ubuntu website say ?07:18
ksmurfbounce something of you guys.  I've been trying to think of a way to setup a decent file server from my main 'puter.  I have no idea about NFS (since they are all Linux boxes) and samba only seems to work about 1/2 the time.  I am thinking about apache?  I have no web setup experience but started playing with 1.3.3 and seems it might serve the purpose.  I am behind a router so 1. would this be safe (with be such a noob) and 2.  Any bet07:19
ksmurfter ideas?07:19
varjosh__: read all of every screen in that config.     don't skim07:19
p0windahvideo detection and resolution stuff has room for improvement, thats for sure07:19
naliothksmurf: nfs would be worth the time learning07:20
p0windahksmurf: ftp07:20
starlighthi07:20
ksmurfnalioth any good sites.... or just google it ...;>07:21
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starlighthi07:21
naliothksmurf: nfs is a *nix standard, therea are many howtos starting with07:21
naliothubotu: tell ksmurf about nfs07:21
starlightwanna chat with me07:21
naliothstarlight: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please07:21
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starlighthey ohmer07:21
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p0windahstarlight: sure thing, whats your phone number ?07:21
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krontabzhowsit going folks07:22
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mitchellgyaah07:22
cool_guyis no1 ready to help me????07:22
ksmurfnalioth Thanks!!!07:22
mitchellwhat is the http port for cups?07:22
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tritiumcool_guy: trustno1 ;)07:22
cool_guy:)07:23
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cool_guycan i trust u07:23
starlighthi07:23
Agamottocool_guy:  We have been waiting for you to state your query.07:23
krontabzquick question folks... wheres the libdvdcss ubuntu package at?07:23
cool_guyok07:23
dabaRstarlight: we see your hi07:23
p0windahwhat was his question ?07:23
cool_guyi actually sent u a pm:)07:23
cool_guybut its ok07:23
cool_guyi will say it again07:23
tarheelcoxnkrontabz: there isn't07:23
varcool_guy: i didn't notice you asking any linux question07:23
bob2come on folks07:23
krontabzfigured as much...07:23
krontabzhehe07:23
bob2this isn't AOL07:23
starlighthi07:23
Agamottokrontabz:  Doesn't exist due to legal issues... google and seek it out07:23
bob2starlight: this is not a chat channel.07:23
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cool_guyi installed ubuntu 5.04 n i am not able to set the resolution i mean the screen resolution07:24
bob2starlight: if you don't have an ubuntu question, I'll have t ask you to leave07:24
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bob2cool_guy: yes, you can07:24
bob2cool_guy: /msg ubotu fixres07:24
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starlighthi dabar07:24
cool_guyi am getting only 1 option tat is 640x48007:24
krontabzyeah figured i'd just compile it... but thought there might be a precompiled binary for deb / ubuntu07:24
naliothkrontabz: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh07:24
Agamottocool_guy:  What hardware as far as video card and monitor?07:24
propagandhi!restricted07:24
krontabzthanks07:24
ubotuhmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs07:24
varcool_guy maybe  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "07:24
propagandhikrontabz: take a look at the above link07:24
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FOOKIThey I got realplyer installed now its saying Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it.07:25
krontabzyay...07:25
cool_guyi have D865GBF intel original motherboard with built in graphics card of 64 mb07:25
krontabzthere it is... thanks mate07:25
bob2FOOKIT: pkill esd, try again07:25
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cool_guyvar wats tat?07:25
naliothdabaR: i wonder, too heh07:25
FOOKITwhats that mean Bob07:25
dabaRhaha07:25
dabaRits all logged07:25
varto walk you through the reconfiguration process for your xserver.07:25
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cool_guyhey <bob2> wats /msg ubotu fixres????07:25
FOOKITbob2: whats that mean?07:26
krontabzthanks prop07:26
cool_guy<var> how do i do tat reinstall?07:26
ChazZquestion:  has anyone else gotten corrupted packages in the breezy install iso?07:26
tritiumcool_guy: type this: "/msg ubotu fixres"07:26
volgacan someone point me to package for libc documentation!07:26
cool_guyi did07:26
cool_guyi typed /msg ubotu fixres07:26
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FOOKIThey I got realplyer installed now its saying Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it.07:26
cool_guyn nothing happened07:26
dabaRFOOKIT: why do yo care?:) its to kill the process with name esd, and it restarts itself, and it works07:26
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bob2cool_guy: uh, type it into your IRC client07:27
p0windahis there a point where we can suggest ubuntu might be too hard for some users to use ?07:27
dabaRor maybe not restarts it07:27
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cool_guyok07:27
bob2FOOKIT: that means "do what I said and it will work"07:27
Parisip0windah,  Hard ?07:27
FOOKITi dont really just wanted to know cuzz he was talking to me07:27
bob2FOOKIT: where "what I said" = "run 'pkill esd' in a terminal"07:27
dabaR4gl07:27
cool_guyit says private message from unregistered users are currently blocked07:27
cool_guywat do i do?07:27
Agamottocool_guy:  Ok, seems to be good enough kit.  Please describe what you have done in trying to set your resolution07:27
Parisip0windah,  Do not see how it can be any harder then any other Linux distro.07:27
maximausFOOKIT, it should "just work" under Breezy. but if you've got another audio app running it can "hijack" the audio output. :)07:28
volgawhy does ubuntu doesnt package gcc with its cd.07:28
var!fixres07:28
ubotuit has been said that fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:28
bob2cool_guy: ffs, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:28
p0windahParisi: this is #ubuntu after all07:28
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volgamost developer unfriendly thing to do07:28
maximausvolga, "apt-get install build-essential"07:28
naliothvolga: gcc is on the cd, install "build-essential"07:28
FOOKITgot it07:28
bob2dabaR: postgresql is quite lovely.07:28
tritiumvolga: it's geared toward the user07:28
bob2volga: right, because no one considered the rammifications of not installing it by default07:28
maximausvolga, the install CD is a single disc so no room07:28
dabaRbob2: ya, no, I was off on a tangent, thinking about something else:)07:29
cool_guy<Agamotto> i installed n i went to the system tools on the top panel i clicked the screen resolution n i wasnt able to fix the resolution other than 640x480 there is no other option my screen looks huge now n really ackward07:29
bob2volga: there was a huge discussion before warty, and it was realised that people who claim to be develoeprs are smart enough to run one apt command07:29
volgabob2, i recommeneded ubuntu to lot of people . but they came back with it doesnt have gcc07:29
volgai mean many students asked for some cd07:29
Agamottocool_guy:  go to the website that has been mentioned, and there is a walkthrough to fix your problem.07:29
p0windahvolga: surely you jest07:29
bob2volga: then recommend something that won't confuse them07:29
bob2like lindows07:29
p0windahvolga: they couldnt come to grips with apt ?07:30
tritiumvolga: surely they can install packages07:30
cool_guythanx07:30
bob2volga: but you're right, windows comes with a full development system installed07:30
volgathey can but they dont have internet07:30
cool_guyi will check it out07:30
cool_guy:)07:30
bob2oh, wait07:30
p0windahvolga: its on the cd07:30
cool_guyi have more problems i will tell u after i fix my resolutiion:)07:30
cool_guythanx guys07:30
AgamottoHell, if you can't come to grips with apt, how would you manage with .dll errors in Windows???07:30
volgabob2, i like ubuntu with what it has done with gnome.07:31
volgai am comfortable with it07:31
varyeah bob2 they were doing that back in 95,,,,,,  right ?07:31
volgabut since ubuntu cds are so readily available07:31
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ParisiI like ubuntu other then dull theme.07:31
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cool_guy!fixres07:32
ubotu[fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:32
p0windahI like how ubuntu supports my c: drive07:32
Nicks_Suckcan someone help me getting amsn working on Ubuntu?07:32
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bob2Nicks_Suck: you don't like gaim?07:32
ParisiNicks_Suck, Why would you wanna use that?07:32
volgaAgamotto, i am talking of ppl who can be taught to use apt , but they dont have luxury of a internet connection07:32
Nicks_Suckbob2:  how do I get msn working with gaim?07:32
varc drive    lol07:32
tritiumvolga: it's on the CD, as we've said07:32
naliothvolga: gcc is on the cd07:32
cahooneoh, there's an error in my multiverse repos07:33
volgaok :P07:33
p0windahvolga: apt works with the install CD07:33
Agamottovolga:  Ahhh, I stand corrected07:33
bob2Nicks_Suck: add a msn account...07:33
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Nicks_Suckhehe, lemme give it a shot07:33
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cahooneit says 404 Not Found Error07:33
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m0zonei find gaim works well for msn stuffs07:34
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dabaRs07:34
cahooneis that common? is the server down now but maybe in a couple of hours will be online?07:34
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Nicks_Suckhaha cool, ok07:35
bob2cahoone: vague statements of your problem make it impossible to guess07:35
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Nicks_Suckbob2:  my bad man, first time using Ubuntu and it's pretty cool :)07:35
cahoonethe error says: http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found07:35
bob2cahoone: if the issue is that you ran apt-get update recently, but dist-upgrade is failing, it means your mirror is broken07:35
m0zonebah sister uses msn and she cant work a vcr lol07:35
cahooneok07:35
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cahooneI can add another mirror, can't I?07:36
bob2cahoone: ah, duh07:36
bob2cahoone: don't use backports07:36
cahooneok, what can I do then?07:36
bob2cahoone: get rid of that line from your sources.list07:36
dabaRcoment it out, put a # in from of the line, or remove it, by replacing it with nothing.07:36
cahooneok07:37
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varah someone remind me what the name of the file that contains the sources is ?07:37
dabaRvar: /etc/apt/s<tab>07:38
benplautanyone know how to recompile/configure Beagle to have .DOC support?07:38
krontabzcould anyone direct me to instructions for an easy way of editing the Gnome application menu?07:38
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vardabaR: only works on a ub system.....07:38
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benplautubotu tell krontabz about smeg07:38
naliothkrontabz: you run breezy?07:38
tritiumgood night07:38
krontabzyup...07:39
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dabaRvar: wth? oh, you mean you are on something else, ok.07:39
yapycckyhello, does anyone knows if is possible to join a x.25 net by a normal modem and a normal telephone line?07:39
dabaRnight07:39
naliothkrontabz: right click on your menu07:39
dabaRnalioth: in debian, or in ubuntu too?07:39
krontabzI officially suck if its that easy...07:39
krontabzhehe07:39
varyes dabaR07:39
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cool_guywhat is vertical refresh rate and horizontal sync frequency that they have mentioned how do i get to know tat??07:39
naliothdabaR: in ubuntu what?07:39
krontabzawesome... im a recent slackware/debian convert....  I've never heard of smeg before...07:40
dabaRits a new app too, anyhow07:40
Agamottocool_guy:  That info should be in the manual to your monitor07:40
Myrttiwhere could I add my suggestions for the programs I'd like to have added to Ubuntu?07:40
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Myrtti(and bear with me, I'm tired)07:40
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cool_guywhere is the manual?07:41
bob2Myrtti: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU links to it07:41
naliothkrontabz: one of our developers did it for ubuntu, it'll get around07:41
varAgamotto: and on the back of some of them07:41
cool_guyint he os itself?07:41
Myrttibob2: thanks07:41
nalioth!faq07:41
ubotuhmm... faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/07:41
krontabzohh!! ok... so this is new then...07:41
cool_guyis tat for me?07:41
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Myrttiactually I know that that it would be a case of just copying it from debian contrib to ubuntu07:42
varcool_guy: no the paperwork that came with the monitor....07:42
madsenAnyone (but me) had problems with mono? (Mine b0rks hardcore...)07:42
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madsenI can't even run monodoc...07:42
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Myrttiwouldn't need any porting per se07:42
OrbordeI need some ndiswrapper help, I think.07:42
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krontabzman... thats awesome.  This has been a problem with the recent versions of Gnome... the menu not having a built in editor07:42
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Agamottocool_guy:  A manual is a binding of papers that usually comes with a monitor that specifies what it is and is not capable of displaying07:43
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cool_guyis there ne other way of finding them on net07:43
OrbordeI use ndiswrapper -i blah, and modprobed ndiswrapper, and ndiswrapper -l gives: bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present, but I don't see any new network interfaces.07:43
cool_guyi have a samsung 793s monitor07:43
dabaRcool_guy: yes, its all on that page, read, please07:43
madsenAgamotto: ... or can usually be downloaded from the hardware companys website.07:43
varcool_guy: also you can check http://monitorworld.com  i think it is, they have a search script.07:43
Agamottocool_guy:  Hint - if you don't have a manual, go the samsung website and look up your hardware07:43
cool_guythanx guys07:44
cool_guyi will try it out07:44
DarkhackOrborde - when you type iwconfig wlan0 should appear, does it not?07:44
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madsenAnyways, if anyone's got some dirt on Mono, give me a msg! It's driving me nuts... A _lot_ of cool stuff is mono, you know... :-/07:45
Myrttiah, my brain segfaults again07:45
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varAgamotto: what's that   <blank_stare>07:45
OrbordeDarkhack: Negative.07:45
varstair even07:45
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bob2madsen: you haven't even shown us a traceback yet07:45
OrbordeDarkhack: I just now did modprobe -r ndiswrapper, and then modprobe ndiswrapper. Still negative.07:45
AgamottoIt is much like people who have college educations and yet can't figure square feet/metres07:46
Darkhackhow was it installed?  Did it come with your distro, was it apt-getted or compiled?07:46
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Darkhackndiswrapper, i mean07:46
OrbordeDarkhack: The module came with Breezy (AMD64, btw), and I apt-got ndiswrapper-utils07:47
Centaur5Does anybody know if they have wine for 64 bit because I don't see it in synaptic?07:47
cahooneok, I already removed the backports from sources.list07:47
cahoonenow, how can I access multiverse?07:47
bob2Centaur5: "64-bit"? you mean amd64? no.07:47
Orbordebob2: Why not?07:48
bob2cahoone: /msg ubotu repositories07:48
Centaur5bob2: yes sir, that's what I mean07:48
bob2Orborde: why not what?07:48
naliothcahoone: in your sources.list, everywhere you see 'universe', make it say "universe multiverse"07:48
Orbordebob2: Why can't Wine be used on AMD64 ?07:48
bob2Centaur5: i you care about binary only crap, use the i386 port (or make a i386 chroot)07:48
bob2Orborde: do you know what wine does?07:48
cahooneok07:48
Orbordebob2: Emulates Windows function calls, doesn't it?07:49
Centaur5bob2: I don't care if they don't have a 64 bit version of wine but for some reason it's not in synaptic07:49
bob2Orborde: right, while running the application normally; it can't run it as a 64-bit application.07:49
bob2Centaur5: uh07:49
bob2Centaur5: perhaps those two thigns are related?07:49
bob2Orborde: I guess with ia32-libs it would work.07:49
OrbordeCentaur5: If you're on amd64, synaptic automatically ignores non-64bit packages.07:49
bob2Centaur5: (it's not in the list because it's not available on amd64)07:49
Centaur5I figured so07:49
dabaRbob2: whats with firefox? is it buggy right now, or what? how can I make it not use the built-in player?07:49
dabaRvideo player that is.07:49
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madsenbob2: Heh, what do you want, there's really not much...07:50
Orbordebob2: So I could maybe get Wine under a 32bit userland, right?07:50
Centaur5Okay, I guess I'll just have to wait07:50
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Orbordebob2: chroot, that is07:50
bob2Orborde: sure, it'll work fine in a chroot07:50
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bob2Orborde: right07:50
bob2(I said that to Centaur5 above, fwiw...)07:50
madsenbob2: "Unhandled Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object" and that _all_ it gives when I do 'monodoc'.07:50
Centaur5Okay, any documentation on doing chroot?07:50
bob2dabaR: built-in player? if you mean video, I've never let firefox have a vide plugin07:50
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madsenbob2: same goes for beagle, banshee and stuff...07:50
bob2Centaur5: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28debootstrap%2907:51
Orbordebob2: Dagnabbit; you beat me to it.07:51
dabaRbob2: I found at least one bug right now...anyhow, how do I turn it off?07:51
Centaur5thanks bob207:51
benplautanyone know how to recompile/configure Beagle to have .DOC support?07:51
Centaur5I suppose that I could also use chroot to install a 32 bit version of firefox to use macromedia?07:52
FOOKIThow do  I map a network folder ?07:52
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FOOKITor drive07:52
madsenbenplaut: Doesn't it have that by default?07:52
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bob2benplaut: apt-get source beagle ; edit debian/rules ; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us07:52
benplautmadsen: nope07:52
bob2benplaut: assuming it's really a compile time option07:52
benplauti have no idea...07:53
benplauti'm still a n00b for most things :(07:53
topyliooh! the DRI updates of today just gave me hardware acceleration :)07:53
dabaRbob2: how do I stop letting totem_embedded from starting>07:53
bob2dabaR: rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem_mozilla.so, I guess07:53
bob2dabaR: it seems I do have it installed, but just don't ever see pages where it kicked in07:53
madsenbob2: No guesses on the mono-stuff?07:53
dabaRI never use firefox so I dont know:)07:53
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bob2anyway, unless someone wants to help me with 8051 assembler, adios07:54
bob2madsen: I'd try reinstalling the mono libs, I guess; I've seen them randomly get corrupted and break things in odd ways before07:55
cool_guy have 1 more problem07:55
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cool_guyi tried to install wine into the os but it says tat sumthings missing07:55
madsenbob2: Ok, I'll try that - thanks! :) If you had a dime for every answer you gave to ppl on this channel, you'd be filthy stinking rich... :)07:55
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OrbordeWhen I'm setting up a chroot, approx. how long does the stage "I: Checking component main on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu...07:55
Orborde" take?07:55
cool_guyi donno wats tat07:55
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dabaRbob2: better.07:55
cool_guyi mean i tried installing it using shell by the command "rpm -i wine*******.rpm"07:56
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bob2Orborde: depends on your net connection07:56
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bob2cool_guy: no, you don't ever use rpm on ubuntu07:56
Orbordebob2: Blazingly fast.07:56
bob2cool_guy: sudo apt-get install wine07:56
bob2Orborde: not very long07:56
cool_guyy?07:56
cool_guywhat happens if i use rpm?07:56
Orbordebob2: I'm worried, because I think it crashed the last time I tried it.07:56
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Agamottocool_guy:  Open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install wine07:56
madsencool_guy: You _can_ use 'alien' and convert the RPM to a .deb package... It might work, it might not...07:57
cool_guyok07:57
yapyccky_god..i hate my connection today!!!07:57
yapyccky_..07:57
cool_guywhat is alien?07:57
cool_guyet???07:57
Orbordecool_guy: Don't use RPM because the infrastructure that does the packages is not set up for it.07:57
cool_guy:)07:57
yapyccky_can anyone please help me in setting up my modem?07:57
cool_guyok07:57
Agamottocool_guy:  RPMs are for other distros.  You could use their packages, but you would have to convert them with alien, and risk having a warped system07:57
madsencool_guy: Oh, you're trying to install wine! Use 'sudo apt-get install wine' or synaptic instead.07:57
cool_guywhat is synaptic n alien??07:57
bob2cool_guy: apt-cache show synaptic07:58
bob2cool_guy: apt-cache show alien07:58
madsencool_guy: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager07:58
yapyccky_my ubuntu doenst recognize my modem...07:58
cool_guyno what is that actually?07:58
cool_guyis it an installer?07:58
bob2cool_guy: run those commands07:58
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bob2yapyccky_: you need to be less vague07:58
bob2yapyccky_: e.g. tell us if it's a serial modem or not07:58
cool_guyok07:59
cool_guy1 more thing07:59
dabaRbob2: thank you so much, I have a friend that I installed firefox, and ever since the upgrade2breezy it's been crashing all the time, and I think this will fix it.07:59
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bob2dabaR: np07:59
yapyccky_bob2 : its inside my laptop07:59
cool_guyi found a real player package n i dnt know to install it07:59
cool_guyhow fdo i do it?07:59
bob2yapyccky_: then it's probably a useless winmodem07:59
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yapyccky_bob2 : lspci show me07:59
bob2yapyccky_: www.linux-laptop.net, look up your laptop07:59
Agamottocool_guy:  the same way you install the others07:59
bob2yapyccky_: ouch07:59
Agamottocool-guy:  sudo apt-get install 'packagename'08:00
madsencool_guy: In synaptic?08:00
cool_guyusing apt-get install?08:00
cool_guyhow do i do tat inm synaptic?08:00
madsencool_guy: Or synaptic, if you're more comfortable with a graphical interface.08:00
cool_guyok08:00
varcool_guy: you need to do a little reading.    two things please.   "man man "  <--- do that and read.    and  "man apt "  and read08:00
madsencool_guy: right-click on it and 'mark for installation' and then 'apply', when you've marked all you want to install.08:00
cool_guyso synaptic is a add n remove programs tat is present in windows???08:01
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xfelonhey08:01
bob2cool_guy: "tat" is not a word in English08:01
bob2cool_guy: synaptic is a tool for installing and removing software, tho, thes08:01
bob2er, 'yes'08:01
xfelonive hooked my printer up, how do i make ubuntu recognize it?08:01
cool_guy:)08:01
cool_guyok08:01
bob2xfelon: system -> admin -> printers08:01
madsencool_guy: NO! synaptic is NOT Add/Remove Programs... It's _way_ better.08:01
xfelonthanks obb208:02
cool_guyi have sum redhat source code cds can i install the softwares present in those cds?08:02
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bob2cool_guy: no08:02
madsencool_guy: Why would you?08:02
bob2cool_guy: not simply, and it's not likely to be useful08:02
cool_guyi need sum video players08:02
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madsencool_guy: I bet 99.9% of the RPMS are in Apt as .debs as well...08:02
yapyccky_Modem: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02)08:02
cool_guythe totem video player hangs if i play a video08:02
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madsencool_guy: Seriously, google for "ubuntu introduction" or something...08:02
yapyccky_bob2 : on linuxlaptop there is no mine08:03
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bob2yapyccky_: ouch08:03
varcool_guy: you need to do a little reading.    two things please.   "man man "  <--- do that and read.    and  "man apt "  and read   please please please.....08:03
bob2cool_guy: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:03
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madsenyapyccky_: What laptop?08:03
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yapyccky_madsen : asus l597008:04
Orbordebob2: If I'm setting up a chroot for the sole purpose of running a few 32-bit apps, would it be a Bad Idea to mount bind /etc/ to /chroot/etc ?08:04
madsenyapyccky_: Weird... I think the most common intel modems should be supported... (?)08:04
cool_guyk guys thanx for the help08:04
cool_guyi will ask u more questions later08:04
cool_guy:)08:04
cool_guyi will read that man stuff n get back to this:)08:05
cool_guybye08:05
cool_guythanx again for such a good help:)08:05
yapyccky_madsen : i dunno what to do...could u please (even more or less) tel me how to move?08:05
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cahooneok, I changed my source.list with multiverse, opened Synaptic and reloaded the package information08:05
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mike_douglasCan anyone help me identify this typesetting language a friend sent me? It uses "h2." for smaller headers, three backquotes for code, and "n." for comments08:05
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madsenyapyccky_: Sorry, I've _never_ used a modem. :-/08:05
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yapyccky_madsen : :-( thx anyway...08:05
mike_douglasand @ around inline code08:05
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cahoonebut I still can't find another video editor or I don't the names of that apps08:06
madsenmike_douglas: Sounds a little like some red-cloth or whatever it's called...08:06
varyapyccky_: modem issue ?08:06
cahooneor I don't know the names of that apps I mean08:06
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yapyccky_var: ?08:06
alekzHi everyone! can someone tell me how to have simultaneus sounds on several opened apps ? i installed ALSA and i choose it in my Multimedia System Selector but i can have sound on Firefox while im using amaroK.08:06
naliothcahoone: cinepaint08:07
xfelonhmm08:07
xfelondo i need to  reboot for it to recognize the printer?08:07
xfelonits not working08:07
naliothcahoone: did you search synaptic for 'video' or 'editing'08:07
var<madsen> yapyccky_: Sorry, I've _never_ used a modem. :-/ <---- that.  i missed where it came from, and was asking if you have a modem issue.08:07
mike_douglasmadsen: textile, of course. thanks a lot.08:07
xfelonPrinting: open device failed; will retry in 30 seconds...08:07
cahoonewith video editor it gives me only kino08:07
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yapyccky_var: yes, my ubuntu doesnt recognize my modem , and i dunno how to do08:08
phasegennalioth: thank you for the help a couple of hours ago since then I've installed breezy and updated it.  thanks again, and goodnight08:08
cahoonebut I saw the cinepaint there08:08
madsenmike_douglas: Oh, right, it's called textile... Red-cloth just parses it. :)08:08
EviLBorF_How can I list the currently logged in users?08:08
mike_douglasI was thinking one of the older *roff derivatives. Doesn't say much for textile :P08:08
madsenEviLBorF_: 'who'08:08
varyapyccky_: is it a winmodem ?08:08
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cahoonecan I add music to my movie with cinepaint? (kino can't add audio)08:09
ubenguindooglus: just wanted to let you know it worked08:09
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EviLBorF_thx madsen.  My hard drive was goin crazy for some reason on my ubuntu server.  I am the only one logged in, and it shouldn't be accessible from the outside world, at least not in any publicized way.  Any idea what could be goin on?08:09
cahooneI thought cinepaint was only for special effects08:09
varif it is not a winmodem yapyccky_ it will be /dev/ttyS[0-4]     but if it is a winmodem, you probably wont be able to use it with linux.08:09
madsenEviLBorF_: updatedb perhaps...08:09
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naliothcahoone: search sourceforge.net08:10
ubenguindooglus: I just had to install the linux-image deb and it generated the initrd and ran grub automagically08:10
EviLBorF_madsen: updatedb?08:10
madsenEviLBorF_: Try 'top' and see if 'find' is consuming a lot of resources.08:10
cahooneok, nalioth08:10
nekostarhey btw08:10
madsenEviLBorF_: Yeah, it indexes everything, so you can use 'locate' to search for it fast. (WAY faster than with 'find'.)08:10
bob2Orborde: not terrible, but I don't know why you would; you're only going to be running the binary things in there anyway08:11
nekostarnalioth, if anyone wants to get dual monitor support going08:11
nekostarusing a nvidia card08:11
varyapyccky_: wvdial's wvdialconf is really good at finding and configuring modems.08:11
nekostarand not use the single screen thing so you can maximize things on each08:11
EviLBorF_madsen: Is that something that ubuntu automatically does?  I haven't told it to do anything like that.08:11
nekostarive got the most wonderful link08:11
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cahoonei wanted to use Synaptics because it's excellent, but I'll download a tarball then08:11
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nekostarthis should be on the bot somewhere for darn sure08:11
nekostarb/c its the only thing that was close to right08:11
Orbordebob2: Well, for stuff like passwd or whatever. But yeah, I see your point.08:11
nekostarand it was perfect08:11
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madsenEviLBorF_: Yeah, I think all linux distros does that. (My server (plain Debian) does it at 6:30am every day.)08:12
EviLBorF_ok.  that would probably be it then.08:12
madsenEviLBorF_: Try 'top' and see if 'find' is running.08:12
nekostarhttp://www.glawing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14  <<--- that be the pimp shit !!08:12
varcron jobs08:12
dabaRbob2: why is all my sound linked, like xine and totem, and xmms?08:13
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nekostarhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7938&highlight=dual+monitor+nvidia  <<--- its in the last post on the ubuntu forums there :)08:13
dabaRbob2: if I turn it down in one, it gets turned down in the other two.08:13
cahoonethanks a lot and see you around08:13
EviLBorF_madsen: doesn't appear to be, however my hard drive isn't going nuts anymore.08:13
bob2dabaR: that's how sound works08:13
bob2dabaR: youre altering your mixer setting08:13
bob2s08:13
dabaRdidnt before breezy08:13
madsenEviLBorF_: Sounds a lot like updatedb. :)08:13
vardabaR: ?08:14
dabaR if I turn it down volume in one media player, it gets turned down in the other two.08:14
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EviLBorF_madsen: doesn't say that update db is running, and when I run who it only shows me logged in08:15
nekostarnow with that all wonderful, ive a totally stupid question... whats the name of the screenshot thing in gnome? i dont seem to have it this time around for some reason >.<08:15
varit does that here dabaR08:15
madsenEviLBorF_: Yeah, it's run from cron.08:15
crimsunnekostar: System> Take Screenshot?08:15
madsenEviLBorF_: 'man cron'08:15
nekostarthanx crimsun08:15
varthat is not a breezy thing dabaR08:15
dabaRcrimsun: why is sound like that in breezy?08:15
crimsundabaR: -ECONTEXT08:15
EviLBorF_ok.  thats what i needed.  thanx man08:15
dabaRdoes that change it?08:15
madsenEviLBorF_: np :)08:16
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Orbordebob2: How to I get a 32bit chrooted Firefox to comply with my selected gnome theme?08:16
alekzHi everyone! can someone tell me how to have simultaneus sounds on several opened apps ? i installed ALSA and i choose it in my Multimedia System Selector but i can have sound on Firefox while im using amaroK.08:16
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bob2Orborde: run switch2 in the chroot, I guess08:16
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Orbordebob2: switch2?08:16
madsenalekz: Try choosing esd / Enlightened Sound Daemon instead.08:16
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bob2Orborde: from gtk-theme-switch08:16
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crimsunalekz: you need to install either amarok-xine or amarok-gstreamer, then08:17
madsenalekz: Oh, sorry... KDE - not my thing... Forget what I just said.08:17
alekzmaddler, i uso gnome08:17
alekz*use08:17
crimsunalekz: if you use amarok-xine, as long as you set alsasink for System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink, you'll use ALSA. If you use amarok-gstreamer, you need to configure Amarok> Engine> gstreamer> alsasink.08:18
madsenalekz: Hmm, I'm not sure if amarok can output to esound, but you can try...08:18
alekzlet me check crimsun thanks :)08:18
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madsenalekz: Listen to crimsun, he's smarter than me. :)08:18
crimsuns/smarter/more jaded/08:18
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varlol08:18
madsencrimsun: Nah, you seem to actually know what you talk about. :)08:19
kisielkcrimsun gets around08:19
kisielkhe's everywhere :p08:19
madsenArg! Why is my mono b0rked! What did I do to deserve this?!?08:19
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AgamottoTime for me to plod off for sleep08:20
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cafuegomadsen: http://www.cafuego.net/melty_kahlua.png08:20
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cafuegoUgh, never mind, /me asleep. mono, not mobo ;-)08:21
PatrikJohanssoncafuego: and he blamed ubuntu :P ^08:21
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cafuegoPatrikJohansson:Are you related to Scarlett?08:21
Orbordebob2: Amazing! A complete system hang! Couldn't even get in by ssh!08:21
bob2Orborde: by doing what?08:22
topyliPatrikJohansson: i always blame the system, whatever i'm using. convenient!08:22
Orbordebob2: Any log file I can check to see what happened?08:22
Orbordebob2: At the time, I was running a massive apt-get install,08:22
PatrikJohanssoncafuego: ??08:22
PatrikJohanssontopyli: :P08:22
cafuegoPatrikJohansson: Well, are you?08:22
PatrikJohanssoncafuego: who is that?08:23
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cafuegoPatrikJohansson: my girlfriend08:23
madsenPatrikJohansson: I think he means Scarlett Johanson, the actress... From Lost in Translation and others...08:23
PatrikJohanssoncafuego: oh yeah08:23
PatrikJohanssonmadsen: oh08:24
Orbordebob2: What is that switch2 thing you mentioned?08:24
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aftertafschwing Scarlett J :] 08:24
topylijohansson must be the most common name in scandinavia :)08:24
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PatrikJohanssonmadsen, cafuego, no im not, in sweden Johansson is one of the most common names08:24
madsenPatrikJohansson: I know, I'm danish ('madsen')... :)08:24
PatrikJohanssonmadsen: :P08:25
cafuegoPatrikJohansson: Oh well :-)08:25
kisielkmy name is quite uncommon :p08:25
ShotNtheDarkhmmmmm i need me one of those long nicks that makes every post take multi-lines.....08:25
topyliit would be nice to have a name that's all mine08:25
bob2Orborde: apt-cache show gtk-theme-switch08:25
kisielktopyli: mine is pretty close08:26
topylilike bruford van lightning08:26
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kisielkalthough I've found about 2 people through google searches with the same name08:26
kisielkbut it's pretty rare heh08:26
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PatrikJohanssonkiselki: haha08:27
Orbordebob2: THanks08:27
madsenkisielk: Searching for my full name on google will return results on one person... Me...08:27
tomajwhat's your name kisielk?08:27
topylikisielk: there's a colleague at my universtity who's my exact namesake. nice confusion08:27
kisielktomaj: Kamil Kisiel08:27
tomajwhere u from?08:27
kisielkoriginated from Poland08:28
tomajis kamil polish?08:28
PatrikJohanssonmy website turns up second when googling for "Patrik Johansson" SEO i call it :P08:28
kisielkit's French08:28
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kisielkCamille08:28
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tomaji see08:28
kisielkbut Polish spelling08:28
tomajlol when i google Tomaj i get some dance instructor guy08:28
tomajhe looks gay imo08:28
PatrikJohanssontomaj: haha08:28
tomajdisgracing my name08:29
kisielklol08:29
PatrikJohanssontomaj: but you cant judge that by looking ???08:29
topylihey, the guy's got a career08:29
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donhello08:30
madsenPatrikJohansson: If you google for "anders k. madsen" the first hit is my HP. ;)08:30
pefhello08:30
kisielkheh08:30
donyes08:30
kisielkthe first 2 pages are all me heh..08:30
kisielkfirst my site08:30
tomajpatrik i wasn't being serious, i dont care about his sexuality as long as he isnt gay08:30
kisielkthen a bunch of mailing lists I posted on08:30
bob2tomaj: uh, enough08:30
alekzcrimsun, not working :( i only have sound in amaroK and even if a close amaroK i have no sound in firefox, can u help me ?08:30
tomajbecause if he is i cant defend myself if someone says my name is gay08:31
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PatrikJohanssontomaj, if someon who is gay has your name your name is gay ????????????????????08:32
topylii get good hits if i use juha k. siltala but without the k. all the biggest hits are for the other guy08:32
gleesondwhat is a good tool to manage my partitions. I currently have a NFTS file system that I want to delete and I want to make my /home partition bigger to compensate. Is there a good way to do this?08:32
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bob2gleesond: parted, qtparted, gparted08:32
all4ngleesond, I find gparted to be good for my usage08:32
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bob2gleesond: make sure you have backupes08:32
gleesondyes definately08:32
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aftertaf"In a world without walls, who needs gates or windows?"08:34
PatrikJohanssonaftertaf: mmmmm, briliant :D08:35
crimsunalekz: what did you do?08:35
aftertafPatrikJohansson:  i just quote, soemone sent me it in my mail this morning ;)08:36
alekzcrimsun, i set amarok's engine to gstreamer with output alsasink and i set my Defalt Audio Sink to ALSA08:36
PatrikJohanssonaftertaf: still briliant08:36
crimsunalekz: and you use GNOME, not KDE, correct?08:37
alekzcorrect crimsun gnome :)08:37
crimsunalekz: did you uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup ?08:37
alekzits unchecked sir :)08:38
crimsunalekz: cat /proc/asound/modules08:38
alekzalekz@ubuntu:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules08:38
alekz0 snd_intel8x008:38
crimsunalekz: is this a fresh install of 5.10?08:38
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alekzyes crimsun 1 week :)08:39
PatrikJohanssondoes anyone here have any experience with steam throuhg wine??08:39
crimsunalekz: and you didn't create an /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc, correct?08:39
alekzcrimsun, it's created08:39
crimsunalekz: ~/.asoundrc will exist, yes, but did you modify it in any way?08:40
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alekzyes crimsun i edited it08:41
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crimsunalekz: what did you change?08:42
alekzcrimsun, i deleted it and paste some bin that i found in a forum08:43
crimsunalekz: argh08:43
crimsunalekz: please don't do that08:43
alekz:(08:43
alekzim new :(08:43
alekzcrimsun, how can i correct that ?08:43
crimsunalekz: please mv ~/.asoundrc ~/.asoundrc.old08:43
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crimsunalekz: then set-default-soundcard 008:44
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alekzdone crimsun08:44
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omoorei've successfully installed ubuntu, configured my wiereless (netgear wg111 usb) nic, now...08:44
omoorei'd like to reconfigure X to do something more than 800x600...08:44
frank23!tell omoore about fixres08:45
omooreduring the install, it did ask me what resolutions i wanted to enable.. i did enable 1024x768 and 1152x768 but after rebooting, those are not available...08:45
omoorek08:45
threeseashehe, trying to install ipython and there are two deb to install, each of which is has a depend on the other... meaning its got a catch 22 disease08:45
crimsunalekz: please confirm that your ~/.asoundrc looks like http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/358808:45
alekzlet me check crimsun08:45
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alekzcrimsun, it's the same :)08:46
nalioththreeseas: at the risk of the shingles flying off of your house, you can force it08:46
crimsunalekz: good, now log out of and back into GNOME, then test amarok again08:46
ShotNtheDarkomoore   maybe this will help you.  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "08:46
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threeseasyou mean it might explode?08:46
nadiaI'd like to connect to my ubuntu box from home using vnc.  I've managed to connect locally.  I've forwarded port 5900 on my router, but can't connect.  Anything I need to check on my ubuntu box?08:46
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alekzcrimsun, another think, i made the same with /etc/asound.conf it's now fixed too ?08:46
cool_guyhello ppl08:46
cool_guyi am back08:46
naliothnadia: from home to where?08:47
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nadiafrom work to home were my box is.08:47
maewhen will OOo 2.0 final make it into breezy, or will it at all?08:47
Bielekenadia, i use realvnc for that08:47
cool_guyhello bob08:47
ShotNtheDarkcool_guy: did you read "man man "  ?08:47
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cool_guyyeah but08:47
OrbordeWhat packages provides the nice mouse cursors and whatnot?08:48
cool_guythere are many things tat i dnt understand:)08:48
cool_guyi want to ask u a question08:48
nadiaI've got the client on my laptop... I try to connect to my WAN IP.  My router has that WAN IP which then forwards anything on port 5900 to my ubuntu box...  but still no connect..  anyone connect to their box from the net using vnc?08:48
cool_guyi have real player n y does it hang when i play a video?08:48
alekzcrimsun, or should i paste ~./asoundrc bin to /etc/asound.conf ?08:48
topylimae: i doubt they will change the version now that breezy is stable. i'm pretty sure there will be a backport once it hits dapper repositories :)08:48
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cool_guy??????????????08:49
propagandhinadia: according to portforward.com, vnc uses ports 5500,5800,5900 tcp and udp08:49
cool_guyne help???08:49
Bielekenadia, no idea, i can connect to my home xp box from ubuntu, but haven't tried the other way yet08:49
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Bielekei think you need a vnc server to run.08:49
madsencool_guy: That's like saying "my car doesn't work, what's wrong?"...08:50
crimsunalekz: rm /etc/asound.conf08:50
nadiathat's a lot of ports...08:50
alekzok crimsun08:50
cool_guyhahaha08:50
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cool_guycomon man08:50
cool_guyi am new to this08:50
cool_guyu guys have to help me:)08:50
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ShotNtheDarki know nothing about real player, sorry;  but as for that manpages.  ---> that's ok, as long as you do understand "man <any_command> "  is supposed to explain how to use the named command.... cool_guy08:50
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nadiathe vnc server is running on my ubuntu box..  like I said, I can connect from my win xp box to my ubuntu box when I'm inside my network.. when outside... No joy!08:50
madsencool_guy: I know, but you gotta be more descriptive... Saying "realplayer doesn't work, what's wrong?" doesn't help us to help you. :)08:50
alekzcrimsun, nothing :( firefox still without sound :(08:51
naliothnadia: do you have your external IP?08:51
cool_guyok08:51
nadiaI'll try to open up more ports...  see if that helps...08:51
cool_guyhere it is08:51
aftertafcool_guy:  and have you tried alternatives to realplayer?08:51
propagandhinadia: you have both tcp and udp ports forwared?08:51
nadiayes.. got external IP08:51
alekzcrimsun, and amaroK is closed :(08:51
cool_guythe real player hangs08:51
cool_guywhat alternatives?08:51
madsencool_guy: Did you install real-player from synaptic/apt? What file were you trying to view?08:51
cool_guyne codes or sumthing?08:51
nadiaI tried forwarding port 5900 for both.08:51
cool_guya video08:51
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Bielekenadia, i think you have to accept the connection from outside by the use of a config file ?08:51
cool_guya dat file08:51
crimsunalekz: what are you using to test firefox?08:52
kevintopyli: as Ubuntu is based on 'sid' and OO2.0 hasn't hit sid, of course it would be in dapper, no?08:52
Bielekelike hosts.allow or something like that... but i'm lost here08:52
madsencool_guy: Huh? What kind of video is that?08:52
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alekzcrimsun, lot of pages that have noices like joecartoon.com and otherones08:52
cool_guyits a video from the vcd08:52
nadiaBieleke, I heard of that with ssh, don't know which config file... that's what I was hoping some would point me in the right direction.08:52
Bielekecool_guy, are you trying to play a DVD ?08:52
cool_guyno08:52
cool_guyvcd08:52
crimsunalekz: are they Flash-based, or...?08:52
alekzyes crimsun08:52
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crimsunalekz: you can't test Flash + ALSA reliably.08:52
Bielekecool_guy, have you installed the w32codecs ?08:53
aftertafcool_guy:  use xine then08:53
cool_guyi cant play ne mpeg or mpg format videos08:53
aftertaf!tell cool_guy about w32codecs08:53
alekzcrimsun, then how can i have flash sound ?08:53
logikal I want to get my USB headset working, how do i go about this?08:53
topylikevin: OOo2 was updoaded to unstable three days ago, but since it changes the naming scheme, it's still waiting for approval from FTP masters08:53
madsenlogikal: Tried plugging it in?08:53
logikalI did08:53
crimsunalekz: you can install the alsa-oss package, then try ''aoss firefox''08:53
logikalits plugged in08:53
logikalSHould I unplug my other thingy?08:54
alekzlet me try crimsun08:54
madsenlogikal: What does 'dmesg | tail' say? (pastebin.com or other)08:54
cool_guyi cant play mp3 on the player instead it play only ogg vorbis08:54
aftertafcool_guy:  read the link ubotu sent you08:54
cool_guyi cant sit n convert all the mp3 files that i have into ogg08:54
madsen!tell cool_guy about restricted formats08:54
cool_guywhat can i do for that08:54
aftertafcool_guy:  read the link ubotu sent you08:54
cool_guydo i get ne codecs for tat?08:54
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logikaloined #ubuntu08:55
madsencool_guy: Read the links... Believe me, it's what you're looking for.08:55
cool_guyok08:55
logikalhttp://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/40497008:55
cool_guyi will08:55
logikaltgere08:55
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cool_guyi will meet u later08:55
cool_guythanx for the  help guys08:55
cool_guy:)08:55
logikalI need to be able to switch from this headset to speakers08:55
logikaloften too08:55
alekzcrimsun, alsa-oss is already the newest version and i have not noice in firefox :(08:56
crimsunalekz: I'll warn you that the sound quality is going to be subpar08:56
crimsunalekz: it works fine for me (just tested homestarrunner)08:56
madsenlogikal: Looks like it actually detected the stuff and loaded a driver for it... That's a good start...08:56
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davidbroI have had to revert to Hoary - too many problems upgrading - tried various ways!  I cannot connect to the Haory reposiotories to update Hoary - are they not available, or is there a problem with my set up?08:57
alekznot working for me crimsun :(08:57
madsenAnyone else experiences Mono being absolutely fubar?08:57
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logikalWhat should I do next maddler08:57
logikalmadsen08:57
PatrikJohanssondoes anyone here have any experience with steam throuhg wine??08:57
madsenlogikal: What have you tried already?08:57
logikalxmms08:57
madsenPatrikJohansson: I saw a guide on that somewhere... Try googling for it.08:57
logikalI want to use teamspeak08:57
alekzany idea crimsun ?08:57
logikaland this headset has a MIC08:57
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madsenlogikal: Heh, ok... Well, try 'ls /dev/dsp*'08:58
madsenlogikal: Should give you either 1 or two devices.08:58
logikallogikal@linuxbox:~$ ls /dev/dsp*08:58
logikal/dev/dsp  /dev/dsp108:58
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juliuscanal de espaol?08:59
madsenlogikal: K, I would think /dev/dsp1 is your headset then... But how on _earth_ you get that going...08:59
crimsunalekz: do two simultaneous instances of aplay work?08:59
madsen!tell julius about #ubuntu-es08:59
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logikal:(08:59
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eliphas_morning08:59
juliusthanks08:59
alekzcrimsun, just amaroK works :()08:59
Bielekenadia, there some pasting from google09:00
BielekeTry using a different VNC server.09:00
BielekeI recommend the package vnc4server to share virtual desktops:09:00
Bielekesudo apt-get vnc4server09:00
PatrikJohanssonmadsen, yeah i have read alot of guides for it, i just wanted to hear how it worked for people... if its not just playable but if its worth playing through wine..09:00
madsenlogikal: Don't worry, I think it's pretty trivial. :) Should be, at least.09:00
madsenPatrikJohansson: Oh, sorry then. :)09:00
agtYou know when you run, say, Synaptic and it pops up a box for the root password... whats the package that does that.. ?09:00
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ShotNtheDarkmadsen: prolly not.    dsp1  should be either dsp2 or some sd*09:00
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madsenagt: gksu09:00
agtthx09:01
crimsunalekz: you need to test 2+ instances of aplay from the Terminal09:01
PatrikJohanssonmadsen, np ;)09:01
madsenShotNtheDark: Come again, you lost me there...09:01
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alekzcrimsun, ok let me try09:01
madsenagt: It's mostly gksu I think, sometimes it looks a bit different I think, but that might be gksu too... (?)09:01
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ShotNtheDarkdsp1 will be on the sound card it's self i think.  and didn't logikal say "usb" ?09:02
logikalYes?09:02
logikalI have 2 things going.09:02
madsenShotNtheDark: He did, but unless he has two soundcards, what could /dev/dsp1 be?09:02
logikalOne is onboard nvidia sound09:02
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logikaland the other is a USB device, which is kinda it's own soundcard.09:03
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madsenShotNtheDark: It also loaded snd-usb-audio for it...09:03
cool_guyppl is there ne good games forlinux?09:03
ShotNtheDarkmadsen: i have only one sound card and nothing else and dsp & dsp1 is my sound card.09:03
cool_guyi need sum to play09:03
madsencool_guy: wesnoth is pretty cool... Nexuiz (nexuiz.com) is quite cool too. :)09:03
cool_guywith good graphics n09:03
cool_guywhere do we get it?09:04
aftertaf!equivalents09:04
ubotuequivalents is, like, A decent list of linux equivalents and analogues can be found here: http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml#109:04
madsenShotNtheDark: Weird... You don't have a built in modem? (That can act as a soundcard too.)09:04
cool_guydo we get games as we get in windows?09:04
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ShotNtheDarkmadsen: no09:04
Bielekecool_guy, don't worry be happy09:04
madsencool_guy: Seriously... Open up synaptic, search for 'games' and start choosing...09:04
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Bielekecool_guy, did you installed w32codecs ?09:04
ShotNtheDarkit's just the sound card.09:04
cool_guynot the built in games guys09:04
madsenShotNtheDark: Weirdness...09:05
topylicool_guy: yes, we have lots of games. but they are not the same games of course09:05
cool_guyi want games like u know the 1 we play in windows/09:05
alekzcrimsun, it's now working bro thank u so much u are a wizard :)09:05
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crimsunalekz: amarok and aoss firefox?09:05
threeseasdpkg -force focre use the force luke09:05
topylicool_guy: it would help if you told us which game you're talking about09:05
alekzcrimsun, yes sir :)09:05
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crimsunalekz: excellent.09:05
aftertafcool_guy:  do you even reply when people ask you questions?09:05
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cool_guyyes man09:05
Bielekeaftertaf, seems not :-)09:06
cool_guycomon i have to think09:06
madsencool_guy: Would you please just understand that almost anything in Ubuntu is installed in synaptic... That windows-mentality where you find stuff all over the net is a thing of the past... (Or a MS-thing at least.)09:06
cool_guy:)09:06
alekzcrimsun, is so fuc**** excellent :P well time to sleep i have 2 exams 2morow c ya thanks :)09:06
davidbroIs there a problem with the Hoary repositories?  I can't connect to them09:06
cool_guyok man i understand09:06
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crimsunalekz: g'luck09:06
threeseaswho's got the secret decoder ring on how to use the force in dpkg?09:06
aftertaflol Bieleke :)09:06
alekzcrimsun, 10x :)09:06
madsencool_guy: You can find wesnoth in synaptic, you can see screenshots of it on wesnoth.org09:06
crimsunthreeseas: dpkg(1) does09:06
bob2davidbro: paste the error to #flood09:06
cool_guyi told u i am new to this so i need to know wat stuffs are in linux rite?09:06
madsenthreeseas: dpkg --force-help09:06
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cool_guyok let me tell u the name of the games09:07
aftertafcool_guy:  just about anything is in there.... discovering is part of the fun too.09:07
madsencool_guy: Yeah, but it doesn't hurt _trying_ to find out a little bit for yourself... E.g. reading some short introduction to Ubuntu...09:07
cool_guyne thing like ut or nfs09:07
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topylicool_guy: UT works iirc09:07
cool_guyok man i will surely try to learn the most part of it09:07
cool_guyit takes time u know?09:08
cool_guy:)09:08
cool_guywhere do we get those games09:08
topyliwhat is nfs?09:08
cool_guyne site09:08
cool_guyneed for speed09:08
cool_guy:)09:08
madsencool_guy: I know, I spent 2 years just learning, before I felt capable of doing weird stuff on my own...09:08
dooglusdoes anyone know how to use "Xnest"?09:08
ShotNtheDarkmadsen: on this DSL distro with one sound card and a modem i have dsp dsp1 dsp2 dsp3   no usb anything so i still think that you need to look in /dev/usb/  or possably even /dev/sd*    but  after all "check my nick"09:08
threeseasdpkg --force-help doesn't help... maybe if I force it :)09:08
frans-thhi all09:08
cool_guyi would like to ask u ppl 1 more thing:)09:08
dooglusI see a new, nested X screen, with display ":1", but it won't let me sent it any windows.09:09
cool_guyi have a multi boot system09:09
frans-thi want to join to the ddrake of ubuntu development ep the branding09:09
frans-thknow where to find?09:09
madsenShotNtheDark: lol, I don't know then...09:09
cool_guywith win 2000 n win xp n ubuntu09:09
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topylifrans-th: #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel09:09
crimsunmadsen: / ShotNtheDark: what's the issue?09:09
madsenthreeseas: lol!09:09
cool_guywhen i installed ubuntu to a free space in the hard disk09:09
ShotNtheDarkusb headset09:09
cool_guyi will not be able to boot in to the xp09:09
nnonixWhat's the best way to get cpu temp, fan speed, motherboard stat info in Ubuntu?09:10
cool_guyit says that hal.dll is missing or sum shit09:10
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cool_guyio hate to c that09:10
crimsunShotNtheDark: what about it?09:10
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topylicool_guy: you can boot win2k but not xp?09:10
ShotNtheDarkdevice file/inode09:10
cool_guyyes09:10
threeseasthis ipython advanced python shell needs to be installed in order to install it09:10
cool_guythats rite:)09:10
madsencrimsun: logikal has one and we can't help him make it work...09:10
topylicool_guy: how did you dual boot the windows versions previously?09:10
crimsunShotNtheDark: why are you worry about the dev node? You shouldn't access it directly ever.09:10
crimsunworrying^09:10
madsencrimsun: http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/404970 <- output from dmesg when he plugs the headset in.09:11
aftertafcool_guy:  hal.dll isnt on the mbr, so lilo wont have killed it.... i dont think. i dual XP/ubuntu no pbs09:11
cool_guyi just started the system it asked for the booting options i then used to enter either 1 of the systems09:11
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madsencrimsun: I started the /dev-talk because I asked if /dev/dsp1 existed.09:11
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cool_guythen what can i do?09:11
aftertafcool_guy:  sounds like a repair from xp cd is needed, but doont touch the mbr.09:11
ShotNtheDarknon-sense......   but it isn't me anyway crimsun it is logikal09:11
cool_guyhow do i repair it?09:11
crimsunlogikal: cat /proc/asound/modules09:11
Bielekenadia, still there ?09:12
cool_guywithout touching the mbr09:12
cool_guy..................09:12
topylicool_guy: maybe you will have to add xp to win2k's boot loader. so you can choose linux/windows with grub and if you boot windows you have another choice =)09:12
logikal0 snd_intel8x009:12
logikal1 snd_usb_audio09:12
cool_guyhow can i add??09:12
madsenlogikal: Hehe, crimsun knows his stuff. :) You're in good hands.09:12
topylioh, i don't know how windows boots09:12
cool_guyi tried to fixboot n fixmbr in thre be09:12
logikalyeah he does lol09:12
crimsunlogikal: so choose the USB headset using System> Preferences> Sound> Default sound card09:13
cool_guybut no go:(09:13
logikalI just loaded the intel8x0 module the other day09:13
logikaldefualt?09:13
logikalhunh09:13
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cool_guy?????09:13
cool_guywhat can i do?09:13
madsenlogikal: LOL! I said it'd be trivial... You just have to know where to go...09:13
aftertafcool_guy:  fixmbr will kill grub. boot to 2K and edit its bootloader to add XP.09:13
cool_guynow i can only load win 2000 n ubuntu09:13
cool_guyi cant get into xp09:13
crimsunlogikal: are you in GNOME or KDE?09:13
doogluswhich repository is ut in?09:13
cool_guyok09:14
logikalKDE09:14
cool_guythats it?09:14
logikalI go to system settings > Personal > Sound and Multimedia09:14
cool_guybut what bout the hal.dll stufrf?09:14
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aftertafcool_guy:  worth trying.... and google around for hal.dll09:14
crimsunlogikal: that's for GNOME09:14
cool_guyok09:14
logikalI go to system settings > Personal > Sound and Multimedia09:14
logikalIm there09:14
cool_guyi have another problem09:14
logikalUnder the tab Hardware09:14
cool_guyi have a hard disk of 80 gb09:14
logikalSELECT THE AUDIO DEVICE ->09:14
madsencrimsun: Any way to make the box output mono sound? (Don't ask.)09:14
logikaldwhat do i sleect?09:14
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cool_guyi have totally 2 primary partitions09:15
madsenlogikal: What can you choose from?09:15
cool_guyi donno how that happened09:15
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logikalOpen sound09:15
logikalALSA09:15
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logikalEnlightened sound domain09:15
madsenlogikal: Huh? That's sound-system, not sound cards...09:15
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cool_guyi want to convert one of the primary partitions into the logical partitions09:15
logikalNetowrk audio09:15
cool_guyhow can i do that?09:15
threeseashehehe..... its like getting your first drivers car.. gotta have car insurance before you can buy it and you can't get insurance untill you have a car09:15
logikalOH lol09:15
logikalwhere do i need to go09:15
threeseasSombody has to lie09:15
Bielekecool_guy, partition magic09:15
ShotNtheDarkcool_guy: up to 4 primary partitions is not a problem.09:15
threeseasAnd I figured out how to lie to ipython09:15
madsenlogikal: Don't know, I haven't used KDE since kde 2.2 I think...09:16
logikalwow lol09:16
cool_guybut cant i convert a primary partition into a logical drive?09:16
logikalI love KDE09:16
Bielekelogikal, you're nuts (just kidding)09:16
cool_guycan i?09:16
topylikde was ok when gnome was at version 1 and sucked. after gnome 1.2, i haven't really used kde :)09:16
madsenthreeseas: Can you lie to my Mono and perhaps make it think that it works?09:16
ShotNtheDarkyeah probably cool_guy but working with partitions is always a good place wipe out data....09:16
cool_guycomon man dnt say that09:17
cool_guyi have precious data on my disk n i dnt want that to be deleted09:17
threeseasit wanted a version for python 2.3 installed.. so I tried and then synaptic told me I had a proken package --- ipython for python 2.3 (2.4 is whats installed)09:17
cool_guyi will tell u the order of the drives i have09:17
madsencool_guy: Then don't mess with the partition tables.09:17
aftertafburn it then.... but dont touch if you're not sure what you're doing either....09:17
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Bielekecool_guy, do you actually READ what ppl tell you ???09:17
cool_guytry to tell me what i can do bout that09:17
topylicool_guy: you probably can't do that non-destructively09:17
PatrikJohanssonwell crap, now i have to go to school :(, and btw gnome is much nicer than kde imo.09:17
logikalcrimsun, do you know?09:17
crimsunmadsen: yes, you need to edit your ~/.asoundrc and create a stanza using softvol. The directive you want is "count 1".09:17
BielekePatrikJohansson, i agree :-)09:18
ShotNtheDarktopyli: like you said that was when kde was "ok"  now it is pretty kewl.09:18
madsencrimsun: Awesome! Thanks! :)09:18
cool_guyi will read what ppl tell me09:18
Kruzr|ZZZguys, how do I change my default network configuration to A) not be DHCP B) be whatever IP, router, and DNS settings I want them to be?  bear in mind I have no graphical environment installed on this machine.09:18
cool_guybut i need more info09:18
aftertafbunch of trollers.......09:18
topyliShotNtheDark: i'm sure it works these days09:18
PatrikJohanssonbieleke, about school or gnome? :D09:18
cool_guythe more u learn the better u will be rite?09:18
aftertafKruzr|ZZZ:  you edit /etc/network/interfaces09:18
BielekePatrikJohansson, gnome :-)09:18
PatrikJohanssonhaha09:18
crimsunlogikal: select ALSA09:18
threeseasso I used synaptic to remove the broken package and it decided to configure the two packages of ipython for p[ython 2.409:18
Kruzr|ZZZaftertaf: that includes DNS configuration?09:18
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logikalit's selected crimsun09:18
aftertafdns conf is in resolv.conf iirc09:19
Kruzr|ZZZokay.09:19
threeseasI now have ipython for python 2.4 working09:19
Kruzr|ZZZmany thanks.09:19
crimsunlogikal: there should be a text entry field or a dropdown menu for device09:19
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aftertafKruzr|ZZZ:  YW :)09:19
logikalOverrde device location09:19
logikal?09:19
logikaland it has a text box09:19
threeseasmorall of the story: when in a catch 22 situation make it worse so to collapse it upon itself and go away09:20
crimsunlogikal: yes, in it type hw:1,009:20
cool_guyc drive(primary)(win2000)  :  [Extended (d drive(logical)(winxp) : e drive(logical) : f drive(logical) : g drive(logical) : h drive09:20
cool_guy(logical)09:20
cool_guyn then is another primary partition09:20
topyliuh-oh. i've configured my nightly backup cron job for 10AM it seems09:20
crimsunlogikal: you should of course match it with the output from ''cat /proc/asound/devices''09:20
crimsun(don't paste here)09:20
cool_guyi have a primary partition before the extended partitions that is at the beginning n another at the end of the extended partitions09:21
logikalI put in09:21
logikalhw:1,009:21
threeseasit 3:20am and I get up for work at 5:45am ... should I go to sleep?09:21
benkong2_hey folks anyway to force synaptic to install 0.14 version of rails?09:21
logikalrestarted09:21
logikaland it doesnt work09:21
cool_guyi am not pasting09:21
cool_guyi am typing all these09:21
logikalI still hear sound from the onboard09:21
benkong2_threeseas; naw just take a power nap09:21
cool_guyso that i can give u more accurate info of my problem09:21
ShotNtheDarkcool_guy: i see nothing wrong with that setup....09:21
MojOrow_how do i use putty to copy files to and from my lin box09:21
crimsunlogikal: did you log out of and back into KDE?09:21
logikalnope09:21
logikalshould I?09:21
cool_guyohhh09:22
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cool_guythen is that ok???09:22
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threeseaswhats a power nap?09:22
topyliMojOrow_: there's another tool called pscp for that09:22
cool_guywhat happens if i install a new os in the last primary partition that is at the end of all the other drives?09:22
ShotNtheDarkprimary and extended partitions can be in any order. yes cool_guy.09:22
aftertafthreeseas:  where you stop typing for 10 mins and let a screensaver soothe your eyes... )09:22
threeseas:)09:22
madsencool_guy: then your new os will probably run just fine...09:23
threeseasthat sounds more like a power down nap09:23
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cool_guyok09:23
cool_guybut i have booting problems09:23
aftertafcool_guy:  this is further than ubuntu help..... you need to learn some stuff about your pc as well dude...09:23
benkong2_any ruby on rails setup folk hereh?09:23
madsencool_guy: Unless it's windows98...09:23
cool_guyi cant get into another os if i install a new os09:23
cool_guyno not win9809:23
cool_guyi use xp n 200009:24
madsenbenkong2_: I'm sure there are some on #rails or #ruby. :)09:24
cool_guyi have lot of booting problems09:24
threeseasgnite09:24
cool_guyi feel like breaking the whole system sumtimes:)09:24
Bielekecool_guy, you screwed it yourself by running fixmbr09:24
madsencool_guy: Seriously, google for "dual boot linux windows" - that will give you everything (and more) on the topic.09:24
benkong2_madsen; thanks I have a synaptic problem about repos and rails version i'll ask though09:24
aftertafcool_guy:  it might be a good idea to sart afresh. why dualboot with xp & 2000 anyway?09:24
topylicool_guy: so tell your boot loader about all your operating systems. look at the win2k stanza in /boot/grub/menu.lst and create one for xp09:24
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MojOrow_topyli all i have right about now is putty09:25
MojOrow_r09:25
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madsenbenkong2_: Oh, it wasn't because I'd mind you asking here - I just thought you'd get better help on #rails or #ruby-lang. :)09:25
logikalOk09:25
cool_guy<topyli> wgar is that???09:25
logikalit works!09:25
logikalHow do i switch back to regular sound tho?09:25
topyliMojOrow_: you need pscp from the putty home site09:25
cool_guyi mean what is that?09:25
crimsunlogikal: reverse what you did.09:25
ShotNtheDarkgrub/lilo will tell the bios to boot which ever partition you select, cool_guy no problemo.  the booting problem is problably that the xp partition is not active or not bootable for some reason.... you should work out that issue and then reinstall grub or lilo which ever you use.09:25
cool_guycan u tell that to me in a more accurate way??09:25
MojOrow_topyli, i have already logged on i am just wonderong what i should do next09:25
logikalwait09:25
logikalI still hear things on my speakers09:25
logikal:(((09:25
MojOrow_topyli, oh ok09:25
madsencool_guy: GOOGLE! FFS!!!09:25
topylicool_guy: not really, i told you exactly what to do :)09:26
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benkong2_madsen; ok I just need to know if I can force version 0.14 instead of 0.13 that's in the repos09:26
MojOrow_topyli, where will i need it on both computers or just the sending or recieving compy09:26
crimsunlogikal: you will if those applications are hardcoded to use a specific device09:26
cool_guy<topyli> do i have to do that in ubuntu??09:26
topyliMojOrow_: you just need that on the windows client09:26
cool_guycuz its like /boot/grub/menu09:26
madsenbenkong2_: Huh? If there aren't packages for 0.14, then you'll have to do a manual install - like described on rubyonrails.org (or something).09:26
cool_guydo i have to edit the file?09:27
topylicool_guy: it's easiest, yes09:27
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MojOrow_topyli, ok i'll be back in a minute with my results09:27
topylicool_guy: of course09:27
cool_guyok09:27
benkong2_madsen; ok09:27
cool_guyi wil.l edit it with the editor n then what do i have to add?09:27
logikalcrimsum09:27
logikalcan we get my mic working too?09:27
madsen!tell cool_guy about google09:27
topylicool_guy: please search the web for examples. i have no idea how to boot windows09:27
cool_guyno09:28
cool_guyu said to look at the win2k stanza in /boot/grub/menu.lst and create one for xp09:28
cool_guyis there ne thing in that09:28
topyliright09:28
cool_guylike ne configuration09:28
cool_guyne text part?09:28
Bieleketitle           Microsoft Windows XP Professional09:29
Bieleke   root            (hd0,0)09:29
Bieleke   savedefault09:29
Bielekemakeactive09:29
Bielekechainloader     +109:29
ShotNtheDarkcool_guy: "man grub "09:29
Bielekecool_guy09:29
cool_guyok09:29
cool_guythen09:29
topyliit's a text file for $deity's sake09:29
cool_guywhat can i do there?09:29
Bielekechange hd0,0 to the right partition09:29
cool_guylike?09:29
logikalcrimsun, how can we get my Microphone working?09:29
crimsunlogikal: is it set to be the default device?09:30
logikalnot sure?09:30
Bielekecool_guy, well if you installed ubunty while xp was on it, then hd0,0 should be ok imho09:30
madsenlogikal: You got the headphones working?09:30
logikalno09:30
logikalkinda09:30
topylicll.09:30
logikali heard a sound when kde started09:30
ShotNtheDarkwell the example just posted "is an example" you will have to change the (hd0,0) to your correct xp partition's address09:30
topylicool_guy: you're the only one who knows where your xp installation is09:30
Bieleke:-)09:31
cool_guyrite09:31
cool_guyok so if its its on the second partition09:31
ShotNtheDarkfdisk -l will help you with that...09:31
cool_guythen?09:31
logikalI hate linux09:31
Mr_Milenkolol09:31
Bielekehd0,109:31
topylicool_guy: and it's a primary partition right?09:31
madsenlogikal: Whoa! Calm down, man...09:31
madsenlogikal: ;)09:31
cool_guyno09:31
logikal:(09:31
ShotNtheDarktopyli: probably not09:31
cool_guyi have xp on logical partition that is the second drive D drive09:32
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Bielekelogikal, usb even suxx on winblows :-) buy you a normal headphone :-)\09:32
topylicool_guy: is it on the first disk?09:32
crimsunlogikal: did you answer my question?09:32
madsenlogikal: It's alright, we know that deep down, you didn't really mean it.09:32
madsenlogikal: :-p09:32
cool_guyno09:32
logikalwhat's that?09:32
logikalSet to defualt device?09:32
logikalwhere?09:32
cool_guyits on D drive thats the second one09:32
logikalI set it to that hw:1,009:32
crimsunlogikal: the same menu you were looking at...09:32
Bielekecool_guy, second drive or second partition ???09:32
Bielekebe carefull before you screw everything :-)09:32
logikalSelect the audio device : ALSA09:32
cool_guyman................09:32
cool_guyi am a bit confused09:33
Bielekeso are we :-)09:33
ShotNtheDarkcool_guy: second ntfs/vfat partition.....   use "fdisk -l " to check the addressing09:33
crimsunlogikal: you kinda blindly typed without confirming. I asked you to confirm via output from cat /proc/asound/devices09:33
cool_guyits on the first partition iof the extended partition09:33
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topylicool_guy: so, open a terminal and do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb" and see what partitions you have, and which one would be the xp installation09:33
crimsun(no, don't paste here)09:33
Bielekecool_guy, okay, then it is hd0,109:33
logikal 18: [0- 2] : digital audio playback09:33
logikal 25: [0- 1] : digital audio capture09:33
logikal 16: [0- 0] : digital audio playback09:33
logikal 24: [0- 0] : digital audio capture09:33
logikal  0: [0- 0] : ctl09:33
logikal  1:       : sequencer09:33
madsenAAAaaarggg!!!09:33
logikal 33:       : timer09:33
logikal 48: [1- 0] : digital audio playback09:33
ShotNtheDarktopyli: hda09:33
logikal 56: [1- 0] : digital audio capture09:33
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nalioth!paste09:34
ubotusomebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text09:34
naliothlogikal: ^^^^09:34
logikalim sorry09:34
logikalI didn't mean to do it09:34
cool_guywhat if the xp is on 3rd partition09:34
topyliBieleke: logical partitions start from 5 IIRC, so it would be (0,4) or something. i wouldn't do a thing before checking fdisk09:34
cool_guy???09:34
logikalbut crimsun09:34
logikalwhat do you think?09:34
Bieleketopyli, sorry :-( forgive me09:35
cool_guythen09:35
ShotNtheDarkfdisk -l <----- cool_guy did you do that yet09:35
Bielekecool_guy, then the menu option of grub won't work :-)09:35
crimsunlogikal: take a screenshot of that menu for me please.09:35
crimsunbe back in 5 minutes.09:35
topylicool_guy: why don't you check? "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda" and you will see for yourself. we can't really see your disk from here09:35
cool_guyi will try that out09:35
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madsenlogikal: I've got a little shell script that pastes to rafb.net/paste if you want it... Then you can just do 'nopaste <file>'. ;)09:36
logikalHow?09:36
ShotNtheDarkmadsen: dcc me that puppy  :)09:37
logikalHow do itake a screenie of the menu?09:37
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madsenlogikal: Hang on, I'll just use it to paste itself...09:37
Bielekelogikal, system - screendump09:37
madsenhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/ky8FVt91.html <- Nopaste shell script ('nopaste --help' for help.)09:37
topylilogikal: use "gnome-panel-screenshot --delay 5" -that will give you time to open the menu09:38
madsen... requires ruby though...09:38
logikalhttp://img499.imageshack.us/img499/4167/snapshot52tw.png09:38
logikalI'm on KDE09:38
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Bielekelogikal, argh :-) ksnapshot :-)09:39
madsenlogikal: In "Select the audio device", what's there? ALSA, Esound and stuff?09:39
frank23are the dapper repos up?09:40
madsenlogikal: You probably want 'full duplex' too (if it supports it). :)09:40
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logikalhttp://img491.imageshack.us/img491/9493/snapshot63ld.png09:40
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naliothmadsen: where is that script used?09:40
frank23madsen: what is 'full duplex'?09:40
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logikaltransmit and recieve sound09:41
logikalat the same time09:41
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madsenlogikal: Yeah, ok, ALSA should be it.09:41
madsenlogikal: Yup.09:41
MojOrow_topyli,  i am having some trouble09:41
cool_guyk thanx guys09:41
logikalI hace alsa selected09:41
cool_guythanx for the help09:41
madsennalioth: What do you mean?09:41
logikalalsa09:41
cool_guyi will do the things that u asked me to do09:41
MojOrow_topyli,  how exactly am i supposed to go by sending the info09:41
cool_guyi will check all those stuff n come back to u tomorrrow with new questions:)09:41
cool_guythanx fot the halp:)09:41
usuarioIs there copper at Michigan?09:42
topyliMojOrow_: sorry, i've lost track of you. :) what trouble are you referring to?09:42
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naliothmadsen i'm gettin weird errors with that script09:42
cool_guyguys 1 more thing09:43
logikalOk listen09:43
logikalfor the sound device for the progam09:43
logikalI used09:43
cool_guydo we get ne distortion softwares for linux??09:43
logikal/dev/sfb109:43
MojOrow_topyli,  i dont know how i am supposed to send files with pscp09:43
logikaland it works09:43
Kyynarahttp://pastebin.com/404984 could someone tell me why I get so many undefined references09:43
topylioh yeah09:43
Kyynaraand it's not the makefile09:43
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Kyynarait has worked for other people09:43
MojOrow_topyli, i think i am using hte wrong syntax09:43
madsennalioth: Like what?09:44
usuarioHow many different places are there in the world that make chips?09:44
cool_guydo we get ne distortion softwares for linux??09:44
madsennalioth: I told you it requires ruby...09:44
cool_guyne help regarding this???09:44
topyliMojOrow_: IIRC, you run pscp.exe and use something like scp c:\temp user@host:/tmp09:44
topyliMojOrow_: but i forget09:44
naliothmadsen: i have libruby09:45
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madsennalioth: What errors do you get?09:45
logikalSo09:45
logikalto change it back09:45
MojOrow_topyli, i think i am using hte wrong syntax09:45
logikalall i have to do is09:45
logikalremove hw:1,009:45
topyliMojOrow_: put the files in c:\temp first, windows paths make nasty writing09:45
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naliothmadsen: i issue ./nopaste --help and it hangs09:46
crimsunlogikal: /dev/sfb1?09:46
usuarioWhat kind of energy is it used to make chips?09:46
MojOrow_it says connection refused09:46
madsennalioth: weird!09:46
MojOrow_do you have any idea why that may b09:46
naliothmadsen: what ruby libs are necessary?09:47
madsennalioth: What if you run:  ruby -e 'puts "hello world"'  ?09:47
madsennalioth: libruby should be enough... And of course the ruby executable.09:47
logikalnot sfb09:47
logikalwhatever it is09:47
topyliMojOrow_: ssh works and scp doesn't. surely a syntax error09:47
crimsun/dev/dsp1?09:47
logikalyes09:47
logikalit seems to be my headset09:47
crimsunthat's oss, and you won't be able to dmix09:47
logikaland it is work09:47
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naliothmadsen: can you give me a hint on ruby? which ones (only about 400 rolled by when i searched apt)09:48
logikalI only hear it in my left ear09:48
logikalI use kmix09:48
crimsunthen adjust the volume using kmix or alsamixer -c109:48
madsennalioth: You need 'ruby' and 'libruby' and that's it...09:48
topyliMojOrow_: i don't have a windows box handy so i can't check. in normal ssh clients the syntax is "scp foo user@host:foo09:48
MojOrow_topyli, right now i have scp then the directory of the files i want to send then the USER@IP:Preferred DEstination directory09:48
naliothlemme try again09:48
logikalalsa mixer doesnt adjust it09:49
madsennalioth: what did  ruby -e 'puts "hello world"'  say?09:49
logikaland neither does kmix09:49
logikalLOL09:49
topyliMojOrow_: don't try to send many files at once with pscp. zip the files first and send the archive09:49
MojOrow_topyli,  where abouts would i go about entering a password09:49
crimsunlogikal: did you type alsamixer -c1 ?09:49
logikalyep09:49
logikalit doesnt work.09:49
topyliMojOrow_: it should ask for it09:49
crimsunlogikal: what error does it give you?09:50
logikalit works09:50
benplautgoodnight09:50
logikalbut it doesnt adjust my volume09:50
MojOrow_topyli, LOL the reason i am sending them to the linux ox is to zip them09:50
agtHow do I change the 'sensible-browser'?09:50
topylihehe09:50
crimsunlogikal: then you -must- use kmix to change it09:50
MojOrow_topyli, it;s 17 gigs of d8a09:50
logikalkmix doesnt work either.09:50
crimsunlogikal: did you select the right card in kmix?09:51
madsenagt: System -> Preferences -> Prefered Applications09:51
topyliMojOrow_: oh. i'd go to nonags.com and search for a proper sftp client for such data09:51
Kyynarahttp://pastebin.com/404984 could someone tell me why I get so many undefined references09:51
logikalYes crimsun09:51
naliothmadsen: now i get this, having installed ruby1.8, and libruby1.8 >>> /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory09:51
madsennalioth: How's it working out?09:51
logikalI selected "Logitech USB headset"09:51
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logikalstill deosnt do nothing09:51
agtmadsen, any idea how to get there in xfce? :)09:51
logikalBRB Im going to look for my standalone MIX09:52
crimsunlogikal: does kmix give you an option of "software volume control"?09:52
logikalMIC09:52
MojOrow_topyli, when i just type in scp it syas "-r copy directories recursivly" would this help09:52
madsennalioth: Oh, maybe try changing that first line to '#!/usr/bin/ruby' instead of '#!/usr/bin/env ruby'...09:52
logikalnope09:52
madsenagt: Sorry, no... Never used XFCE.09:52
usuarioWhere was Henry Ford born?09:52
topyliMojOrow_: oh ok, pscp does know how to do that. i thought it was more primitive :)09:52
crimsunlogikal: screenshot of kmix, please09:53
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naliothmadsen: did they not tell you i break things by paying attention to them? >>  bash: ./nopaste: /usr/bin/ruby: bad interpreter: No such file or directory09:53
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madsennalioth: Wtf!?! How did you do that?!?09:53
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madsennalioth: That's amazing! Almost as fscked up as my Mono installation.09:54
naliothmadsen: did you write this?09:54
lawrenceHmm.. I think I made a mistake.. does anyone know how to fix it?09:54
lawrencehere is what I did09:54
madsennalioth: Could you (manually) paste the output of 'dpkg -l | grep ruby' somewhere?09:54
MojOrow_topyli, i am as you have probably guessed very knew to solid command line apps i am wondering where specifically should i insert that command before the directories or at the end of everything09:54
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madsennalioth: Nope, I didn't.09:54
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icemanWell, can not get Wine to properly run Diablo II, i Launches and then when i attempt to go online, the who thing sreezes ..09:54
lawrenceI went sudo -R username usr09:54
crimsunnalioth: you need both ruby and ruby1.8 installed09:54
lawrencenow I lose all privileges as root09:55
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crimsunnalioth: ruby is the package that creates /usr/bin/ruby09:55
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madsencrimsun: I thought ruby depended on ruby1.8... (?)09:55
juliuxmorning09:55
naliothbah!09:55
crimsunmadsen: sure09:55
juliuxdoes someone knows a groupware which works with evolution as client?09:55
lawrencecould someone please help me?09:55
naliothmadsen: now with ruby installed, i get syntax errors out the wazoo09:55
madsencrimsun: Oh, ok, but if he didn't install 'ruby' but just 'ruby1.8'...09:55
MojOrow_topyli,  gar i put it right after pscp and i am still having no luck09:55
iceman#winehq09:55
topyliMojOrow_: if pscp knows wildcards, you can do "scp -r directory user@host:directory". or that's how it should go09:55
madsennalioth: Really, paste them! :)09:56
naliothmadsen: you may have had ruby installed from something else09:56
MojOrow_topyli,  gar i put it right after pscp and i am still having no luck09:56
MojOrow_topyli,  gar i put it right after pscp and i am still having no luck09:56
MojOrow_foor09:56
MojOrow_fook wrong compy09:56
madsennalioth: Nope, I'm running a pretty vanilla Breezy here... Installed it a couple of days ago.09:56
topyliMojOrow_: i thought you'd use scp in the pcsp window09:56
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logikalCrimsum09:56
logikalI found a mic09:56
logikalnevermind09:57
MojOrow_you are confusing me a little09:57
arbirhello09:57
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topyliMojOrow_: run pscp.exe and you get another shell window, right?09:57
arbirwhat do i do for the hoary-security repository?09:57
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arbirshall i change that to breezy-security?09:57
MojOrow_topyli, no actually i get a rundown of the commands and then it exits09:58
naliotharbir: if you are upgrading to breezy, yes09:58
arbiryeah yeah i am09:58
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madsentopyli: pscp is straight command-line. :)09:58
arbircan i just search and replace all hoary with breezy ?09:58
MojOrow_topyli,  to run somthing with it as far as i see i need to type pscp at the start of the line09:58
naliothubotu: tell arbir about upgrade2breezy09:58
topyliMojOrow_: oh, perhaps you have to use "pscp user@host" and you get an ftp-like shell. i forget09:58
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madsenMojOrow_: 'pscp <source file> <destination>'09:59
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arbirnalioth: i am reading that09:59
arbirand then i saw more reps than mentioned there09:59
madsentopyli: No, it's scp, not ftp...09:59
arbirwhich is why i asked here @ nalioth09:59
MojOrow_topyli, when i run pscp only it says...09:59
madsenMojOrow_: Don't paste here!10:00
topyliMojOrow_: listen to madsen, he actually sounds like he's used pscp recently :)10:00
naliotharbir: follow the wiki, and you'll be fine10:00
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arbirok nalioth10:00
MojOrow_topyli, usage pscp {options} {user@}host:source target10:00
madsentopyli: Not recently - once... A year ago - but I AM used to command lines. ;) (Got 3 terminals on the current desktop.) :)10:00
topylithere you go10:00
madsenMojOrow_: What are you trying to and how are you trying?10:01
MojOrow_topyli, or usage pscp {options} source [source...] {user@}host:target10:01
arbirmadsen10:01
arbirare you tim madsen?10:01
madsenarbir: Heh, no... (See: /whois madsen)10:01
topylimadsen: yep, i just seemed to recall that pscp has its own quirks. but the syntax seems pretty standard10:01
madsenarbir: Who's Tim Madsen?10:01
madsentopyli: Yup, it better be. ;)10:01
arbirsorry heheh... i have a buddy madsen who is up all night so i was just curious10:02
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topylimadsen: i've only used putty lately on my phone, and pscp not for ages10:02
madsentopyli: Hehe, I don't even use putty - haven't got a windows nearby...10:03
arbircan i leave irc on and do my distro upgrade?10:03
arbirwill that be safe ?10:03
madsenarbir: Well, I _have_ been up all night, but apart from that... Sorry. :)10:03
naliotharbir: yes of course10:03
MojOrow_so far i have done this   pscp -4 c:\distos\ username@computerip:/home/username/desktop10:03
topylimadsen: me neither, but the phone doesn't run unix either yet :)10:03
arbiris now upgrading his dostro10:03
MojOrow_topyli, so far i have done this   pscp -4 c:\distos\ username@computerip:/home/username/desktop10:04
madsentopyli: hehe10:04
madsenMojOrow_: That looks about right...10:04
icemanaant one able to help me get wine an Diablo to go online ?10:05
MojOrow_topyli,  and as a result i get "Fatal: Network error: Connection refsed"10:05
arbiris fetching packages at 240kbps10:05
arbirestimated time is 51 mins10:05
arbirhow can i change my login manager ?10:05
topyliMojOrow_: but ssh works?10:05
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arbiris there a GUI to change it?10:06
madsenMojOrow_: Is SSH started (or even installed) on the machine you're trying to scp to?10:06
mojoHi.  I want to install mplayer, but dont' know which version.  I have an amd64 but presently run Breezy 32-bit.  What is the mplayer-custom (vs mplayer-586 or mplayer-k6)???  Thanks!10:06
mojops - ubotu points me to a hoary-oriented page on this10:06
MojOrow_topyli,  gar i thinnk i may have the ipwrong lets see what happens10:06
MojOrow_topyli, i already logged into it with putty10:06
topyliok, the server is there10:07
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MojOrow_topyli, ok10:07
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kevixarbir:'cat /etcc/X11/default-display-manager'10:07
MojOrow_topyli, yeah it way my fault10:08
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MojOrow_topyli, but i am still having a problem10:08
arbirsounds good to me kevix10:08
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arbirlet me try i kevix.. thanks10:08
kevixarbir:'cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager'10:08
kevixarbir: also, if you 'dpkg-reconfigure xdm' it will ask what you want to use.10:09
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MojOrow_top this time i loged in with it but it said "pscp: unable to open /home/username/desktop/: failure""10:09
MojOrow_topyli,  this time i loged in with it but it said "pscp: unable to open /home/username/desktop/: failure""10:09
MojOrow_topyli,  and it did it like 40 times10:09
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madsenMojOrow_: You should perhaps replace 'username' with your actual username on the box...10:10
MojOrow_topyli,  i did10:10
lawrencesudo: must be setuid root10:10
MojOrow_topyli, wherever it says username on this screen fo my writing it is a paceholder for my real username (i;m kinda paranoid i dont know why either)10:11
madsenMojOrow_: Does the dir 'desktop' exist in your home-dir on the machine?10:11
topyliMojOrow_: it's Desktop not desktop10:12
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MojOrow_topyli, i tried it again now it's transfering the files10:12
MojOrow_topyli,  w00t10:13
topyli\o/10:13
MojOrow_topyli,  i think i ma have created a desktop directory10:13
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MojOrow_topyli,  rightnext to my Desktop one10:13
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topyliMojOrow_: ok. the main thing is the data is moving :)10:14
MojOrow_topyli,  i am so happy i am finally being productive with y boxed10:14
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topyliyeah, soon you'll have DATA on the machine =)10:15
MojOrow_topyli,  i am only getting 2.5 mbps tho : (10:15
kevixMojOrow_: not only productive, but using a secure protocol!10:15
MojOrow_w00t10:15
topyliwith open source tools!10:15
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MojOrow_i can feel my linux newbishism just leaking away slowly but steadily10:16
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arbirwhat is the general pattern of fav. text editors ?10:16
arbirwho uses what ?10:16
MojOrow_what kind of speeds am i supposed to get on a 10/100 network10:16
topyliMojOrow_: 1 PH33R ur ski11z!10:16
kevixarbir: well you have either vim or emacs. each has its own religion!10:17
MojOrow_topyli, rolfmao10:17
topyliMojOrow_: depends on duplex settings, and the hardware10:17
topyliand whatever else10:18
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topyli!start an editor war10:18
ubotujed is better than emacs10:18
MojOrow_do you think a router would be why it;s slower10:18
arbiri know.. kevix just wanting a quick statistics10:18
MojOrow_and does the encryptioin have a large effect on the process10:18
kevixarbir: but ALL unix like systems have 'vi', so its always good to know.10:18
arbiri was using VI lots and still use it... but now i use Scintilla10:18
topyliMojOrow_: the slowest gadged makes the rules10:18
topyligadget10:19
MojOrow_igotcha10:19
topyliMojOrow_: and no, the encryption doesn't have that much of an effect10:19
MojOrow_what is an easier way to network the 2 computers to eachother in a secure way10:20
kevixarbir: I've always used vim. never had the patience to learn emacs.10:20
MojOrow_well as secure as somthing can be that is on the internet10:20
MojOrow_and i just did a check i did actually create a new directory10:21
kevixarbir: when you say text editor--is that for editing any file or for creating reports--if so, use latex!10:21
MojOrow_gret now i have 2 desktops10:21
topyliMojOrow_: i have two boxes together with just a crossover cable from NIC to NIC, no dhcp but static IPs. works well, is simple10:21
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MojOrow_i have a similar setup10:22
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nevynMojOrow_: place a network cable between them10:22
MojOrow_on my network i shut of dhcp and only have a few availiable select ips10:22
nevynin a condute.. with gas in the condute10:22
arbirkevix i agree10:22
nevynplace armed guards every 50M10:22
MojOrow_basically then both of the compys are connected to the router10:22
arbirbut i would love to also use emacs and see how good it is too10:22
arbirthe process of learning is most intersting10:23
topyliMojOrow_: i nailed the ips down in hosts files10:23
MojOrow_his is the first transfer between the 210:23
nevynshoot anyone comming within 10m of the cable that looks vaguely like an isp10:23
nevynshoot anyone comming within 10m of the cable that looks vaguely like an antenna10:23
MojOrow_is there a hosts in lin10:23
kevixMojOrow_: do you mean connect in the same room like a lan or over a network -- wan?10:23
MojOrow_if so where is it10:23
MojOrow_same room10:23
MojOrow_but i want as best security as possibly10:23
nevynMojOrow_: run cabling10:23
topyliMojOrow_: i have a different setup then. this box is connected to the adsl modem and routes to the other box10:24
MojOrow_i am not using wireless10:24
kevixarbir: it takes a while, but no WP compares!10:24
nevynshield the wires10:24
SeverianMojOrow_, for the best security, use a crossover cable between the computers and don't connect them to anything else.10:24
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MojOrow_ you mean keep them off of the net10:24
nevynethernet isn't secure.10:25
nevynpeople have sniffed off a wire using a long wire antenna10:25
MojOrow_and thats why i want atleast some form of encryption10:25
topyliRIP OFF THE NICS10:25
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MojOrow_my brother knows how to do that10:25
nevynMojOrow_: use ipsec?10:25
glynWhat's up everyone?  I'm having trouble with wine10:25
kevixMojOrow_: there is physical security (locked room) and network security (one crossover cable)10:25
MojOrow_i dont know what that is yet10:26
glynhow do I get wine to recognize the DLL library on my windows partition?  or is there a way around this?10:26
MojOrow_is there any way to get  some form of encryption over the crossover cable10:26
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nevynMojOrow_: security is something of a double edged sword10:26
nevynMojOrow_: sure.10:26
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kevixMojOrow_: google freeswan10:27
nevynMojOrow_: use ipsec or a vpn tunnel between the machines but performance is going to suck and it's gonna be less reliable10:27
glynI know Wine has a virtual C drive, does it have a virtual driver library too?10:27
nevynMojOrow_: because you're adding more complexity10:27
glyncan anyone offer any assistance please?10:27
SeverianMojOrow_, You can get nics that encrypt the traffic.  Intel makes some. There are other ways, too.10:27
nevynMojOrow_: and massive overheads10:27
amarocki get a serious error..can i post it here plz?10:27
nevynamarock: #flood10:28
kevixMojOrow_: as nevyn said, if you use secure protocols, it zap cpu to do the encryption.10:28
MojOrow_thats not really a problem10:28
MojOrow_for me right now10:28
nevynyes it is.10:28
kevixamarock: only if its ONE line10:28
nevynMojOrow_: what are you doing on this network?10:28
MojOrow_all i want is a way to securly send the info between the compys10:29
nevynMojOrow_: define securely?10:29
amarockits 3 lines10:29
nevyndo you trust the systems at each end?10:29
MojOrow_actually i am learning to be an admin10:29
amarockare u guys there in the #flood channel? plz help me10:29
topyliMojOrow_: i wouldn't worry about your home lan as long as you manage to keep the evil internet out of your system10:29
nevynMojOrow_: ahhhh....10:29
MojOrow_i have done admining for windows boxes for 3 years now10:29
kevixMojOrow_: do you work for the NSA or CIA? x-)10:29
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agtHmm I need libfaac0, liblame0, and libxvidcore4 ... whereabouts can I find these packages?10:30
MojOrow_and my brother a computer god, imo, said that if i wanna get anywhere i will need to get off my ass a nd learn linux10:30
madsen!tell agt about restricted formats10:30
naliothubotu: tell agt about repos10:30
ompaulMojOrow_, if you want a good vpn use OpenVPN and read the online help pages there are some brilliant faqs out there for it10:30
MojOrow_i said i would learn how to admina  basica linux system by next year10:30
MojOrow_and i will10:30
naliothagt: enable universe and multiverse10:30
topyliMojOrow_: he's right :)10:30
nevynMojOrow_: you're over complicating this. but learning a vpn solution of some description is valueable10:31
kevixagt: probably 'universe'10:31
ompaulMojOrow_, and stay away from serial do it over IP10:31
dmlinuxits 4:30 am and i cant sleep : /10:31
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agtthx kevix, nalioth, madsen10:32
kevixMojOrow_: all the linux doc are online and free, just read, read, read and ask question.10:32
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MojOrow_the first thing he ever said to my when i asked him about computers all those years ago when i was a little kid he said was RTFM10:32
MojOrow_it took me 3 months of annoying him to get him to tell me what it means10:32
MojOrow_or meant10:33
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amarockim disappointed with kubuntu breezy...hoary booted & shutdown sooooooo fast!!....breezy takes soooo much time!!10:33
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MojOrow_and i was like 8 at the time so i was really annoying10:33
kevixdmlinux: ok. do 2 things, stop drinking caffine and 2 stop playing nethack!10:33
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MojOrow_and of all the lessons i have ever learned in my life that is the number one formost one10:33
topyliMojOrow_: he's got the tao of unix, he never gets annoyed10:33
MojOrow_i actually had to get him drunk to get him to tell me10:34
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julius#ubuntu-es10:34
topylievery guru has his weakness10:34
julius#/ubuntu-es10:34
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topyli(in fact, looks like most gurus have the same weakness)10:35
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juliuscanal espaol?10:35
naliothjulius: escribe /j #ubuntu-es10:35
MojOrow_well basically he just bought a house  and i am a little jealous10:35
PHOENIX_REGISTER 25581910:35
juliusthanks ;)10:35
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PHOENIX_sux=)10:35
dmlinuxkevix hehe i was playing BF2 thank you :P10:35
topylihehe10:35
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MojOrow_i vowed to myself to learn more than him many years ago10:35
MojOrow_and I WILL DO IT10:35
MojOrow_patience is a virtue10:36
MojOrow_i sya by the time i am 20-21 i will know more than him10:36
topylibah. i always learn what i absolutely have to get the stuff done that i want done (but then, i don't much look after other people's machines)10:36
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_Rappy_how can I seach which packages I have installed (from treminal)10:36
_Rappy_*seach = see10:37
amarockon this note, what would be a nice linux book for me??10:37
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topyli_Rappy_: dpkg --get-selections10:37
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aftertafamarock:  http://pizza.unbsj.ca/content/help/tutorials/crash.html10:37
topyli_Rappy_: you may want to output that into a file10:37
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kevix_Rappy_:  'dpkg -l' or 'dpkg --get-selections'10:38
dmlinuxdoes locking the screen stop all processes?10:38
arbirkevix: try scintilla10:38
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PHOENIX_Russian channel?10:38
arbirwww.scintilla.org10:38
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aftertafdmlinux:  nope...10:38
_Rappy_thankx topyli & kevix :)10:39
dmlinuxaftertaf because im downloading something , but it will take all night, i want to close the lid of my laptop and let it download while i sleep10:39
MojOrow_who here says warm by the heat of teir computers10:39
aftertafif laptop goes into hibernate.... it willstop ;)10:39
dmlinuxafterlaf my lappy doesnt go into hibernate10:39
amarockaftertaf: thanks.....but how abt a comprehensive printed book:)??10:40
MojOrow_topyli, do you have any suggestions as to learning c++10:40
aftertafamarock:  one that is good enough to really help, never found one (never looked tbh)10:40
MojOrow_topyli,  and possibly some linux oriented programming languages10:40
topyliMojOrow_: nope, i don't code. learn C if you're into unix10:40
naliothdmlinux: enable powersaving and let your display depower10:40
MojOrow_topyli, i tink the shell script language is pearl10:41
dmlinuxnalioth id does :P10:41
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dmlinuxnalioth :) i dont mind if the screen goes off all night anyay, thats why i put up a SS10:41
johnnyperl*10:41
topyliMojOrow_: my scripts do just fine with sh. perl is good for a little more complex stuff, yes10:41
dmlinuxGood night all10:41
johnnyhmm... i normally recommend python. ..10:42
kevixMojOrow_: perl and bash at least10:42
johnnylots of quality code out there to look at.. and the guide is specactular10:42
johnnyruby is nice too tho10:42
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ccookehmm.10:42
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MojOrow_do you guys suggest me getting books to read from and of so from what publishers10:42
kevixjohnny: I yes I forgot Mr. Shuttleworth LOVES python!10:42
johnnynot a lot of quality perl code to read :)10:42
ccookeIf you're doing systems scripting, dealing mainly with files and programs, you should probably be using shell.10:42
johnnyi never needed a book10:42
topylijohnny: i wouldn't write my system scripts in python though. languages have their uses10:43
ccookeotherwise, on ubuntu, python is a good choice.10:43
madsenjohnny: I prefer Ruby... And Bash.10:43
ccookebut perl and ruby do the job perfectly well.10:43
johnnypython is everywhere tho10:43
topyli!start a language war10:43
ubotuVB.Net is better than Perl!10:43
johnnyat least everywhere i go :)10:43
johnnygentoo and ubntu10:43
johnnyubuntu*10:43
ccookejohnny: well. Python doesn't have the reach that perl does.10:43
madsentopyli: LOL!10:43
olicati'm switching to ruby, because of rails10:43
johnnytrue..10:43
kevixMojOrow_: O'reily is king10:43
johnnyrails ialright10:43
johnnyis alright10:43
SeverianMojOrow_, There are some good books you can download free.  But, it really depends on how you would best learn and I think that varies from person to person a lot.10:43
ccooke*shell*, however, *is* everywhere.10:43
johnnybut it's nothing that my CMS can't do..10:43
johnnyjust need to make it easier er10:44
johnnyccooke, that's not exactly true..10:44
johnnyif your script has alot of bashisms it won't work on csh or tcsh10:44
MojOrow_i learn best by mood not material10:44
MojOrow_i know that may sound strange10:44
olicatcoming from zope development, rails is a godsend10:44
Severianccooke, Python is a better language in most respects than perl.  But, perl has a great asset in CPAN.10:44
ccookeum. most sh scripts will fail under csh10:44
MojOrow_but thats what my aptitude tests oriived10:44
ccookebut then, csh considered harmful10:44
johnnyonly to you :)10:44
MojOrow_proved10:44
johnnyi don't use it personally10:45
Goanhi! i'm gonna install ubuntu 5.10 on my bosses computer.10:45
ccookejohnny: the point you miss, though, is that csh is a login shell.10:45
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johnnyuhmm.. just as much as bash is10:45
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Goancan someone give me a couple of quick suggestions how to get mp3 and video codecs working?10:45
ccookeevery box with csh as the default shell will *also* have a bourne (or, more usually these days) korn shell as /bin/sh10:45
NermalGoan: wiki10:45
Myrttismile, you're on screenshot.10:45
johnnya korn shell? yuckcity :)10:46
Nermal:)10:46
ccookeand most of the features in bash come from the korn shell anyway10:46
madsen:)10:46
ccookejohnny: why yuck?10:46
topyliwe used to have csh as the default shell on the university unix boxes. very very strange10:46
johnnyi know MS designed monad of ksh10:46
johnnyoff*10:46
Nermallies!10:46
MojOrow_what do you suggest i stick away from in my linux endeavors10:46
johnnystick away from?10:46
johnnylike?10:46
ccookeksh88 *still* has features bash doesn't have yet, and almost any bash script will run under it.10:46
johnnymost of the languages have their usages10:46
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ccookejohnny: er... no.10:47
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johnnyi just don't prefer perl10:47
johnnyCPAN is good tho..10:47
ccookeksh93 is the most sane scripting shell I've ever worked with.10:47
nnonixMoj0row_: crazy zealots in IRC chatrooms!10:47
topyli!start a shell war10:47
ubotutopyli: Do they come in packets of five?10:47
johnnyhehe .. that's a good start :)10:48
johnnyi don't think we're having a war..10:48
Viper12Goan, go to this thread. should get you going. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79449&highlight=w32codec10:48
topylioh. ubotu misses some features10:48
kevixMojOrow_: the whole point of FLOSS is to explore what you want, not to avoid stuff10:48
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johnnyi can surely say i've explored mucho thanks to FLOSS..10:48
MojOrow_ok i should have clarified that10:48
johnnyand certainly farther than the word software would make you think..10:48
MojOrow_i mean what is dangerous to try right now if i dont know to mucha bout it10:49
ccookeas to bash... well, try this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/359210:49
johnnythey are all about the same :)10:49
topyliMojOrow_: first thing is to get everything working. after that, back up your configuration and data. then, hack away!10:50
grantCan anyone please help me in finding drivers? eg Intel 955 chipset drivers10:50
nnonixMoj0row_: $2 hookers. They are very dangerous.10:50
topyliMojOrow_: and make a backup plan10:50
kevixMojOrow_: loging in as root too often (and then using rm -rf)10:50
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Myrttihttp://velhottaret.net/~myrtti/05-10-25.png10:51
MojOrow_thanx for the help guys10:51
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twibblergood morning all ....10:51
amarockmoin10:51
MojOrow_right now i need rto go and buy some energy because i havent slept tonight as of yet10:51
johnnyi'm trying to write a lil daemon  that reads from a serial port and updates a database , trying to pick the language10:51
MojOrow_so i;ll be back when i have gotten some pop10:51
johnnynot sure if i'm gonna try to pickup python, ruby, or c# ..10:52
kevixMojOrow_: oh yea! dont do any thing that affects a critical system if you are sleepy or drunk!10:53
twibblerAnd now for the Ubuntu Breezy ?. Toshiba Laptop. I need to switch screen modes, for projector use. I can boot up viewing the projector or screen . How do I activate the hot key switch ?.10:53
MojOrow_ok lol10:53
kevixjohnny: there should be some short C programs on the net for simple serial port reads10:53
topyliMyrtti: what's that showing the ampparit headlines? a gdesklet?10:53
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johnnyC doesn't really do anything for me ..10:54
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johnnyi prefer interpretive languages for the most part..10:54
Myrttitopyli: yup. LTRSSgrap modified a bit10:54
Myrttigrab, even10:54
johnnyaltho... C# and java have alot of play out there.. so i might bite the bullet..10:55
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johnnydon't really see a reason to learn anymore C than i know now.. just enough to fix some kernel patches..10:55
topyliMyrtti: i have to take a look. they update too often for any other method :)10:55
johnnyhmm.. that remnids me.. i have to figure out what's wrong with my USB device.. seems to cause problems on input10:55
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topylijohnny: C is what makes unix systems though10:55
Myrttialso xmltv-gdesklet is modified.10:56
johnnyhistorically yes.10:56
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johnnymost the apps i use on a day to day.. are not written in C..10:56
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johnnythey are usually written in python or C# .. and then bound to some sort of C library10:56
topyliMyrtti: modified how? patched, or some configuration-fu?10:56
johnnylike gtk+  ..10:57
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kevixtwibbler: toshset or toshutils10:57
johnnythat way i don't have to worry about the memory management issues myself ..10:57
twibblerkevix: thanks....10:57
Myrttitopyli: I just edited some stuff out from the source10:59
kevixtwibbler: if you google, there is a toshiba linux mailing list (i'm on it)10:59
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twibblerkevix: will google10:59
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topyliMyrtti: ok, thanks for the hint. i just might make my desktop the ultimate news portal11:00
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twibblerkevix: Required kernel toshiba support not enabled ?.11:03
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kevixtwibbler: 'sudo modprobe toshiba' may do it.11:04
heatxsinkanyone in here successfully used a em8300 decoder card and xine together in ubuntu?11:04
twibblerkevix: nope fatl error inserting toshiba toshiba.ko ... hum looks like its going to be fun ...11:05
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seb29english irc ?11:06
kevixheatxsink: that needs some special source only kernel drivers?11:06
kevixseb29: yes.11:07
heatxsinkhttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054311:08
Quaruptedtheres Ubuntu for PPC?11:09
kevixtopyli: does ubuntu have 'module-assistant'? if so, which repo?11:09
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naliothQuarupted: yes. many of us use it11:09
Quaruptedwow11:10
Quaruptedwhats wrong with OSX?11:10
naliothQuarupted: that is a question for #ubuntu-offtopic11:10
Quaruptedlol11:10
Quaruptedno one is ever in there11:10
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naliothQuarupted: i'll be more than happy to answer that one in there11:11
Quaruptedk11:11
topylikevix: apt-cache finds it immediately, it's in universe11:11
kevixQuarupted: yes. the breezy has a livecd for ppc.11:11
topyliwhatever it is :)11:11
Quaruptedthats cool11:11
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kevixtopyli: I was asking in reference to the em8300 kernel driver11:13
MuiskeOk. I'm having problems with equake, and now xmms as well. I think it's because of the nvidia drivers (strace shows it locks up at an nvidia related point)... anyone know what I could or should do?11:13
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amarockhow should i checkinstall....as normal user or sudo?11:13
kevixtopyli: it automates making source-only kernel drivers11:13
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kevixamarock: its always safer to try normal user first.11:14
amarockkevix: ok11:14
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madsenYou know that thing, when you look directly at the sun or into a light, you can, like, see that spot of light with the eyes closed...11:17
madsenI've got that with the google logo now...11:17
kevixmadsen: DONT DO THAT!11:17
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madsenkevix: How the heck am I then supposed to find any solution to my broken Mono install?11:18
amarockchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.11:18
agtWhy does XMMS get installed when I install mplayer ? :[11:18
amarockdependency stuff u see......11:19
kevixmadsen: ok. I was refering to looking at the sun! as for mono, ask on #mono or look in the pkg-mono-devel list11:19
amarocki cant compile kaffeiene.........checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.11:19
madsenkevix: You didn't see what I wrote just after that thing with the sun?11:20
kevixmadsen: google is everwhere. you cant get rid of google. I've got google-on-the-brain!11:21
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madsenkevix: hehe11:21
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kevixmadsen: although, now I have my own google, beagle!11:21
madsenkevix: Yeah, once I get Mono working I'll have that too... And Banshee... And monodoc...11:22
joachim_what's the "right way" to say that dialog boxes are showing up as main windows? I want to file a bug on gnome-app-inst11:22
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alexissofthi11:22
madsenjoachim_: I think "normal windows" is just fine... Or maybe 'non-modal', but I'm not so sure about that...11:23
joachim_ok thanks11:23
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kevixjoachim_: you mean if you have 3 desktops and the dialog only goes to #1?11:24
joachim_nope11:24
joachim_I mean they show in the window list11:24
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kevixjoachim_: ok. do you mean the window list shows windows on other desktops.11:26
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ubuntuguyanyone: is there an unrar utility for ubuntu?11:26
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madsenubuntuguy: unrar-nonfree (I think)11:26
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kevixubuntuguy: should be'aapt-get install unrar or unrar-nonfree'11:27
joachim_kevix, no. I mean do Help -> About. The about dialog gets a button in the window list. It shouldn't11:27
madsenkevix: actually, 'sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree' ;)11:27
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madsenubuntuguy: --^11:27
kevixmadsen: I have debian and ubuntu. I'm on debian at the moment. so I didn't know if you had both.11:28
ubuntuguythank you11:28
madsenkevix: huh? who? what? where?11:29
amarocki cant compile kaffeiene.........checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.11:30
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kevixmadsen:  you said 'unrar-nonfree'. I know that you need 'sudo' but I forgot that U needs it.11:30
madsenkevix: Oh, unrar-free is there too, but I think nonfree supports more versions.11:31
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davehey11:31
ubuntuguythere is an unrar-free and unrar-nonfree, which .... oh nonfree supports more versions?11:31
naliothyes it does11:32
davehi guys... i got a prob with my battery charge monitor on breezy... anyone feel like helping me out?11:32
kevixamarock: you may need 'xlibs-dev'11:32
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daveim stuck on 61% battery level11:33
davesays 13hrs 57mis till fully charged11:33
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dave(im plugged in)11:33
aftertafdave:  dead batery?11:33
davenah, battery works fine in windows11:34
daveonly thing i can see is in my system log:11:34
davelocalhost battery-stats-collector[8763] : apm_read failed with error code 111:34
davenot sure if its related11:34
dave(i have apmd installed, it's a fresh breezy install)11:35
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kevixdave: do you know if your lappy needs apm or acpi?11:35
CarlFKHP Deskjet 812C - how do I do the cartridge cleaning thing?11:35
daveno idea11:35
davebut in hoary it worked fine11:36
daveon the same laptop11:36
davei didnt apt-get... completely new hard drive (old one corrupted) and a fresh install of breezy... and no go11:36
madsenwhat does the 'p' at the beginning of a line in the output from 'dpkg -l' mean?11:36
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Belutzwhat are the alternative login managers instead of gdm and kdm?11:37
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madsenBelutz: xdm11:37
Belutzmadsen, thanks :)11:37
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madsenBelutz: It's not very slick though - but hey, it works. :)11:38
MojOrow_i;m bak11:38
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MojOrow_how do you tell how much space is left on a ard drive?11:38
Belutzmadsen, i'm trying to make the lightest ubuntu :D11:38
kevixCarlFK: djtools may help.11:38
madsenMojOrow_: df -h11:38
CarlFKthanks11:38
madsendell500: Oh! :) Nice!11:38
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kevixmadsen: purged11:39
kevixBelutz: I like wdm !11:39
madsenkevix: So ^pi means "purged and installed"... (?)11:39
rysiekhi all11:39
rysiekdoes anybody know how and in which program can I view a film WITH subtitles from a text file?11:39
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Belutzkewvix, wdm? i'll try that also11:39
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madsenrysiek: vlc, mplayer - probably xine too.11:40
dbugany idea when xubuntu cd released ?11:40
shinuif someone is on my wifi network, is it normal i cant ping them?11:40
nevynxubuntu?11:40
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dbugubuntu + xfce11:40
nevynshinu: depends on a bunch of stuff..11:40
rysiekmadsen: thx, trying11:41
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kevixmadsen: if you look at the first 3 lines of 'dpkg -l' it says  'desired state, current state'11:41
nevynshinu: not least of which is if they're running a broken firewall or not11:41
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amarockanyone tried vlc player?11:41
nevynanyone who blocks ICMP is breaking a fundamental part of the internet (mtu path discovery)11:41
shinunevyn: they are running a windows xp so i guess they might have win fw on11:42
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madsenkevix: Huh? So ^pi means desired: purged, current state: installed... (!?!)11:42
MojOrow_madsen, thanx11:42
madsenMojOrow_: np :)11:42
kevixrysiek: what do you mean 'from a text file'11:42
shinunevyn: i tried to do an nmap -sS 192.168.0.* but the person doesnt come up11:42
madsenkevix: it's at dbus and hal!11:42
madsenkevix: Well, reinstalling them helped...11:43
CarlKkevix, after apt-get install djtools, where do I find it?11:43
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rixthOkay, I know it is possible to use Shockwave on Linux but can't remember where to get the package?11:43
MojOrow_which is better for large amounts of data rzip or 7zip11:43
frasercan someone tell me why after i upgraded to breezy Xchat IRC will simply not open? it gives me the server screen but nothing more11:44
kevixmadsen: you can reinstall them11:44
madsenMojOrow_: Depends on the data...11:44
madsenkevix: Yeah, I did that. :)11:44
amarockbye all....lunch time11:44
MojOrow_madsen, tel me more if you can11:44
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MojOrow_madsen,  and i amtalking multi gig11:45
rysiekkevix:11:45
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tswHi, Im having problems with ati X550 PCI-e card (on amd64). I installed drivers from ati but it wont work without ChipID override (now working with 0x5B60) but is slow.. any ideas?11:45
kevixCarlK: well 'grep bin /var/lib/dpkg/info/djtools.list' may give a clue11:45
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Belutzhow do i restore dissapeared panel in xfce4 ?11:45
rysiekkevix: say, I have an XVid copy of my DVD11:45
madsenMojOrow_: So, not a lot of plain txt I assume...11:45
brownie17is it just me, or after updating to breezy then connect and close buttons on Xchat IRC are swapped?11:45
rysiekkevix: but it's a foreign fil and I want to have subtitles11:45
madsenMojOrow_: Well, usually music and video is already compressed, so it's very little you gain by trying to compress them more...11:45
MojOrow_madsen, no not really11:45
MojOrow_what if they are dvd rips11:46
madsenMojOrow_: I'd say just 'tar' it up.11:46
dbugBelutz, restart session11:46
MojOrow_madsen, what if they are dvd rips11:46
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rysiekkevix: there are webpages out there, where you can find text files, appropriately formatted, that with a suitable player will work as subtitles for a film11:46
naliothbrownie17: i think you've been drinking ;)11:46
madsenMojOrow_: lol! You mean, hypothetically? :-p11:46
Belutzdbug, ok11:46
topyliscientific curiosity11:47
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p0windahripping your own dvds for personal use is legal11:47
madsenMojOrow_: Well, I don't think you'd really gain very much from compressing them... You can always try with a single one first and see what you gain.11:47
MojOrow_a famil member died and i enherited their media collection11:47
madsenp0windah: Sure...11:47
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p0windahmadsen: I do11:47
kevixrysiek: can this file format have subtitles? I ususally use xine11:47
MojOrow_madsen,  a family member died and i enharited their media collection11:47
MojOrow_madsen,  i am trying to archive it11:47
naliothp0windah: MojOrow_ legalities belong in #ubuntu-offtopic please11:47
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madsenMojOrow_: Oh, I'm sorry. :(11:48
MojOrow_madsen, because my dvde player is my compy11:48
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aftertafMojOrow_:  use mencoder...11:48
moimoctoc\q11:48
madsenMojOrow_: Yeah, you could encode it... But that'd take quite a while...11:48
madsenMojOrow_: They're raw dvd rips?11:48
moimoctoc\quit11:48
MojOrow_yeah i is currently taking 3 hours amovie11:49
madsenmoimoctoc: Try: /quit ;)11:49
p0windahheh11:49
kevixrysiek: oh, now I get it. the text files contain the subtitle for the movie.11:49
MojOrow_and it takes about and hour to rip it11:49
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MojOrow_so at 5 movies a day it;s quite a hassle11:49
aftertafMojOrow_:  it aint a fast business...11:49
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sigwadahow could i upgrade to ubuntu 5.10 coz im using 4.10 and i dont have a installation cd?11:49
aftertafsigwada:  change your repositories and update....11:49
p0windahsigwada: you can do it over the internet easily enough11:49
aftertaf!tell sigwada about upgrade11:50
MojOrow_thats why i am just ripping them right nwo and thinking to compresds them so that i can batch encode later11:50
highvoltagesigwada: press alt+f2, then type in "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"11:50
gnomefreaksigwada type /topic theres a link there that explains it very well11:50
highvoltagethen, change all the warty 's to breezy11:50
kevixsigwada: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to 'breezy'11:50
highvoltagethen "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" from commant line11:50
MojOrow_basically so that i can do the batch encoding in batches11:51
gnomefreakcomment out the backports or erase them11:51
kevixsigwada: but then you have to do 'sudo apt-get update'11:51
Fanskapetahh there is a LiveCD for Zeta R1.1 available for download now :)11:51
topyliMojOrow_: good idea. you can leave mencoder crunching away with the movies at nights11:52
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AntiochCan anyone give me a hand? Just a little snafu with a new icon set's icons not being displayed correctly...   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8132111:52
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MojOrow_thats why i am moving them to my lin box11:52
MojOrow_if ou read  up above it;ll say a little info about it11:52
eliphas_hello I am installing vmplayer and I got a question11:53
eliphas_export CC=gcc-3.411:53
eliphas_oops11:53
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MojOrow_right now i am wondering what i should do about compression do yo have any sggestions madsen11:53
eliphas_What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running11:53
eliphas_kernel?11:53
eliphas_where is that ?11:53
crimsuneliphas_: linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:54
madsenAntioch: I don't think you actually can change that - unless you hack firefox...11:54
crimsuneliphas_: which will give you /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build11:54
p0windahMojOrow_: check out doom9.net, but as was mentioned earlier.... #ubuntu-offtopic11:54
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kevixeliphas_: /usr/src/kernel-header*11:55
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crimsunkevix: we don't use kernel-headers*11:55
Antiochmadsen well what about gnome-terminal?11:55
eliphas_oh thanks guys11:55
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madsenAntioch: I don't think so - it's built into the programs afaik...11:56
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madsenAntioch: So, if you get the source, change it a bit and compile, then I think you'll be able to...11:56
Antiochmadsen haha, gotcha... thanks =)11:56
madsenAntioch: np. :) Sorry I couldn't help you actually fix it. :-/11:56
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jtan325hi, i've got a dell inspiron 8500, and would like to get a dual-head setup with my 20.1" lcd of the same resolution...11:57
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jtan325any good tutorials on how to do this?11:57
Alchemist_jtan - which video card?11:58
jtan325nvidia 4200 go11:58
jtan32564 mb of memory11:58
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jtan325graphics, that is11:58
eliphas_my usr/src/ has only a rpm directory11:58
Alchemist_jtan - http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=176&p_created=1101836843&p_sid=RekL2VSh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NTgmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0wJnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfZm5sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9bGludXg*&p_li=&p_topview=111:58
crimsuneliphas_: you have to install linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:58
p0windahnilink jtan32511:59
eliphas_i have to11:59
eliphas_okie do11:59
gnomefreak:( rpms11:59
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jtan325thanks Alchemist_ but i think i want the twinview11:59
jtan325where i can drag windows between both screens11:59
jtan325(if possible)11:59
kevixeliphas_: does 'dpkg -l |grep headers' show anything kernel related?12:00
Alchemist_jtan - the nvidia site also has faq on twinview12:00
Alchemist_jtan - I find dual head nicer12:00
p0windahjtan325: its possible, but not documented very well unfortunately. you will have to read around a couple of linux sites and play around with your config files by hand a little12:00
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madsenMmm...12:00
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jtan325so maybe i don't really understand what dual-head means12:01
jtan325if each screen is its own X screen12:01
jtan325you can't drag windows between them, correct?12:01
ccookethat's correct12:01
gnomefreakjtan325,  no12:01
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Alchemist_dual head lets you have two seperate X screens - you cant drag - but you can launch apps to specific screens12:01
kevixjtan325: google xinerama12:02
eliphas_ dpkg -l |grep headers12:02
eliphas_ii  comerr-dev                            2.1-1.38-2ubuntu1                    c12:02
eliphas_etc... etc ....12:02
brownie17can someone tell me where tthe grub config file is stored please?12:02
eliphas_kevix, yes12:02
gnomefreakjtan325,  if im not mistaken the purpose is kinda like the different work spaces you have now only you can see both at same time12:02
crimsunbrownie17: /boot/grub/menu.lst12:02
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Alchemist_brownie17 - on your boot partition - you probably need to mount it first12:02
kevix!xinerama12:02
ubotukevix: Do they come in packets of five?12:03
jtan325hmmm12:03
jamieterhi all, need some help, im a complete newbie but totally keen on linux and open source, got ubuntu 5.04 and downloaded open office 2, please can someone help me on installing it12:03
johnsie2khi... what package do i need installed to "make"  something?12:03
kevixeliphas_: so you dont have linux-headers or kernel-headers package ?12:03
crimsunit's linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:04
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crimsunexplicitly12:04
crimsundon't change the $()12:04
p0windahjtan325: you can drag between them12:04
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jtan325yea i'm looking into this stuff12:04
jtan325thanks guys12:04
kevixjohnsie2k: 'sudo apt-get install kernel-package' will do it (and other cool stuff)12:05
jtan325hopefully i don't fux0r my xconfig12:05
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gnomefreakjamieter, not sure how to install oo2 on hoary it comes with breezy tho :)12:05
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Alchemist_jtan325 - yeah back it up first :-)12:05
johnsie2kthanks12:05
jtan325lol of course12:05
p0windahjtan325: its called "spanned mode"12:05
p0windahjtan325: where desktop 1 will be both your lcd's12:05
eliphas_kevix, ii  linux-kernel-headers                  2.6.11.2-0ubuntu13                   Linux Kernel Headers for development12:06
kevixcrimsun: which distros had < 2.6.12 kernel?12:06
jtan325p0windah, you're talking about the dual-head xinerama?12:06
guillem101johnsie2k, I would say build-essentials12:06
madsenkevix: I think hoary did...12:06
brownie17crimsun, after changing my grub menu.lst should i have to run sudo update-grub before my changes take effect?12:06
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p0windahjtan325: when I had it working I didnt use the xinerama stuff12:06
madsenbrownie17: Nope12:06
AntiochHow can I change the behavior of gnome such that when I double click a window's title bar it doesnt maximize, but instead "rolls up" (windowblind style)?12:06
brownie17madsen, thanks12:06
johnsie2ki got the kernel-package and the make command is doing something...cheers12:06
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lacihi12:07
p0windahjtan325: but its possible, whats cool is picking whether you want window maximises to span across both lcd's :)12:07
guillem101Antioch, System->Settings->Window settings12:07
jtan325haha12:07
guillem101Antioch, at the menu...12:07
kevixeliphas_: eurika! that is it.12:07
Antiochguillem101 thanks, I forgot where to find it... =)12:07
jtan325p0windah, so you just used the basic dual-head stuff described on the nvidia site?12:07
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guillem101:)12:07
lacii'get a permission problem with copying from cdrom to home dir12:07
madsenAntioch: Hehe, shading windows is higly addictive. ;)12:08
p0windahjtan325: well I did it with an ati 9800pro and found that most of the official guides were out of date12:08
p0windahjtan325: I found some obscure posting on a forum that explained things clearly, in the end12:08
lacifor example i copied Dir1 from /media/cdrom to ~/ with nautils12:08
eliphas_kevix now  need to find it to point it to vmplayer12:08
jtan325hahaha12:08
lacithen i can't delete ~/Dir1, only with root access12:08
crimsunmadsen: um, actually yes you do need to run sudo update-grub12:08
jtan325that's how 90% of my problems are solved12:08
gnomefreaktheres official guides for things on linux?12:09
p0windahjtan325: but its possible, dont give up :)12:09
jtan325by some guy who finally figured it out12:09
p0windahgnomefreak: apparently12:09
crimsunkevix: Warty had 2.6.8.112:09
madsencrimsun: Why? I've _never_ done that - and I've changed my menu.lst, like, 8 times within the last 24 hours...12:09
kevixlaci: what is the command, what is the error?12:09
crimsunmadsen: anything between the kernel magic lines isn't updated12:10
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p0windahanyone here a "screen" user ?12:10
crimsunp0windah: sure12:10
nevynp0windah: naturally12:10
jtan325i've used screen12:10
jtan325pretty neat12:10
ccookecrimsun: yep12:10
madsencrimsun: No, but if you just edit menu.lst and don't do it because you've installed a new kernel, then you won't need to...12:10
kamstrupI really *really* need you guys to help me with a small thing...12:10
lacikevix, the error is that the user hasn't got write permission on ~/Dir112:10
madsenponcho1: /me too12:11
ccookeer. p0windah: yep12:11
p0windahcrimsun: I like using C-a and C-e in bash to move around on a line, whats the work around with screen ?12:11
gnomefreakkamstrup, ask the question lets see if we can help12:11
kamstrupCan you try and execute: python -c "import gtk"12:11
kamstrupdoes it fail?12:11
lacikevix, but i copied that dir with the same user, and not root12:11
p0windahand to anyone else that uses screen frequently12:11
crimsunmadsen: advise people to sudo update-grub regardless, because it catches every case.12:11
ccookep0windah: okay, there are two ways to sort that out12:11
kevixlaci: what does 'ls -ld ~/Dir1' say?12:11
kamstrupgnomefreak: That is, if you have pygtk installed ofcourse12:11
ccookep0windah: you can change the escape code screen uses - screen -e^BB will make it look for Ctrl-B instead of Ctrl-A12:12
lacikevix, dr-xr-xr-x  2 laci laci 4096 1970-01-01 01:00 Picture12:12
madsencrimsun: Well, sure, it doesn't hurt.12:12
ccookep0windah: or, you can use Ctrl-a a, which sends a Ctrl-a to the app inside screen12:12
kamstrupI get:AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'CAPI'12:12
kamstrupand it freaks me out12:12
lacirm -Rf Picture said i haven't got permission to delete it12:12
lacikevix, umask is 02212:13
kevixlaci: what does 'ls -ld ~/' say?12:13
lacidrwxr-xr-x  41 laci laci 4096 2005-10-25 12:02 /home/laci/12:13
p0windahccooke: thanks, that brilliant. my productivity grows again12:13
ccookep0windah: changing the escape code, by the way, is useful for running screens inside screen12:14
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madsenArg!!! Damn crap! If breezy is stable ubuntu, then I feel sorry for the people developing on dapper...12:14
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kevixlaci: you tried to delete it from the command line or from nautilus?12:14
Nermalmadsen: hardware locking up ?12:14
naliothmadsen: ?12:15
p0windahI think I'll track down some screen fan site and learn its voodoo12:15
lacikevix, both12:15
madsenNermal: No, mono doesn't work in any way.12:15
madsennalioth: --^12:15
Nermalwell we knew that ;)12:15
Nermalit's a clone of M$ stuff and pushed so hard to 1.x status by novell marketing people it's hardly surprising12:15
naliothmadsen: give it time12:15
lacikevix, i only can delete it with sudo/root access12:15
Nermalit should still be 0.2x imho12:15
madsenNermal: Even after uninstalling (and purging) everything mono and installing it all over again nothing new has happened... *grr*12:16
p0windahits free software, use or dont use it12:16
ccookep0windah: for instance, I have a three-level screen setup - a single screen on Ctrl-Y which runs an ssh to our main login server... on that, a screen on Ctrl-B, each window of which is a screen on Ctrl-A on a different server...12:16
Nermalit just doesn't work ?12:16
kevixlaci: that is odd12:16
johnsie2kthere is no build-essentials in the repos12:16
madsennalioth: It works on my Agnula/Debian...12:16
Nermalp0windah: have a state the obvious star :)12:16
p0windahI know there are probably a couple of mono apps I'd appreciate being able to run under linux12:16
ccooke(the screen on Ctrl-Yis just there so the session persists over multiple logins - only one window)12:16
madsenNermal: Pretty much yeah...12:16
lacikevix, is somewhere a settings with i can set the default permission of the newly copied files?12:16
madsenp0windah: What kinda useless suggestion is that?12:16
kevixjohnsie2k: its 'build-essential' ( no s)12:16
thoreauput1cWill uninstalling xubuntu-artwork-usplash or whatever it's called get the ubuntu splash back or is there a further step required?12:17
kevixp0windah: I'm running tomboy and beagle!12:17
p0windahmerely pointing out that whining about novell pushing mono is not a "bad thing" tm12:17
madsenthoreauput1c: Hehe, I had that exact same problem... :)12:17
naliothmadsen: agnula?12:17
thoreauput1cmadsen: :(12:17
johnsie2kah12:18
thoreauput1cmadsen: any solutions?12:18
johnsie2k:_12:18
kevixlaci: umask. but you knew that.12:18
madsenthoreauput1c: the trick was to uninstall (and purge) xubuntu-artwork-usplash and then 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image-`uname -r`' :)12:18
madsennalioth: A GNU/Linux Audio Distribution (http://agnula.org)12:18
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thoreauput1cmadsen: aha - OK I thought I recalled a dpkg-reconfigure in there - thanks :)12:18
madsennalioth: Pretty cool, if it was better than other distros at music apps, but it's not. :-/12:19
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naliothmadsen: perhaps you'd like to join the motu team and hack on it12:19
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madsennalioth: motu?12:19
madsenpuff: lol! Tak! :)12:20
madsenpusling: --^12:20
thoreauput1cI must say breezy is very cool - it does a lot of sophisticated tricks I didn't know about like the totem plugin for firefox...12:20
gnomefreakxemacs is the text editor right?12:20
naliothmadsen: masters of the universe (repository)12:20
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kevixmadsen: how about 'dinabolic'(sp?)?12:20
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crimsunthoreauput1c: usplash and initramfs are linked, so anytime you change usplash, you have to regenerate the initramfs, which means you have to dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)12:21
kevixmadsen: masters of the universe - motu12:21
madsenkevix: You mean dynebolic? (I've heard it mentioned, but that's all I know about it.)12:21
Nermalp0windah: they did fire half my friends and fuck my career up12:21
Nermaland now they've laying off more people12:21
thoreauput1ccrimsun: I see - OK will do - not exactly intuitive is it *grin*12:21
madsennalioth: Nah, I think I have plenty to do just to get my breezy actually working...12:21
Nermalhardly a splendid company IMHO12:21
Nermalgnomefreak: more of an operating system, but yes, it has an editor :)12:22
madsenNermal: right on!12:22
gnomefreakNermal, ty so there is a difference between xemacs and gnu emacs?12:22
crimsunthoreauput1c: that's how it stands in Breezy. It may change in Dapper.12:23
madsengnomefreak: Yeah, of religious proportions, I think... But I use vim, so I don't care. ;)12:23
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davehey12:23
Nermalgnomefreak: erm.. one is console.. one is X iirc12:23
gnomefreakmadsen, alot of people are using vim12:23
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thoreauput1ccrimsun: if I pastebin my amixer output could you have a look and perhaps tell me why I can't record using a mic and gnome recorder app?12:24
madsengnomefreak: I know, and I'm one...12:24
gnomefreakty Nermal12:24
chicheyyyyyyyyyy12:24
madsengnomefreak: a lot of people are using emacs/xemacs too...12:24
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nevynhrm12:24
thoreauput1ccrimsun: if you're busy don't worry12:24
DjKriticalAnyone here use imagemagick?.. I'm trying to turn a whole directory of images into thumbnails =(12:24
gnomefreakmadsen, ty12:24
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nevynwho's responcible for shippit?12:25
DjKriticalhey it's madsen.. remember me ;D12:25
LePoulpe303hi all12:25
crimsunthoreauput1c: sure, though I need /proc/asound/cards info, too12:25
nevynshipit even.12:25
LePoulpe303anyone has a clue how i can recompile a package already installed by synaptic ?12:25
davehey guys... my battery charge monitor is stuck on 61% and says it has about 14 hours until it's fully charged... obviously something's wrong... only thing i can find is a lot of this sort of thing in syslog localhost battery-stats-collector[7886] : apm_read failed with error code 112:25
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thoreauput1ccrimsun: OK I'll see what I can come up with - thanks :)12:25
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nevynLePoulpe303: why do you want to?12:25
daveremove it, dl the source and make it?12:25
nevynLePoulpe303: you'd remove it download the source package and debuild it.12:26
nevynLePoulpe303: but why?12:26
LePoulpe303nevyn :  i have a problem of c++ abi compatibility on some libraries12:26
foxgamerHi all. So I'm having real problems with breezy. Is there a program that will inform me of any possible conflicts between software/hardware?12:26
p0windah:)12:26
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LePoulpe303nevyn : on a pc that made hoary-> breezy transition12:26
nevynLePoulpe303: ah12:26
LePoulpe303nevyn : i'm a newb in linux and for me it's hell ... :D12:27
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chicspeak spanish?12:27
nevynLePoulpe303: that's a pretty serious problem12:27
chicssssss12:27
nevynLePoulpe303: I'd probably re-install the libraries and the application before attempting to rebuild libc12:28
daveanyone feel like helping me with my battery charge monitor?12:28
kevix!es12:28
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:28
nevyndave: have you loaded the battery module?12:28
daveit's a fresh breezy install12:28
daveit used to work on hoary okay12:28
nevyndave: or has ubuntu loaded it for you?12:28
LePoulpe303nevyn : http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/194312:28
daveit's just the battery monitor usually in the top right corner12:28
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nevyndave: it's the sort of thing that should "just work" on ubuntu12:28
daveyeah thats wat i thought12:29
daveit worked fine in hoary12:29
nevyndave: that's why they were aiming for "Totally awesome" laptop support...12:29
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daveworks fine in windows12:29
nevynjdub: or was it "totally rad" ?12:29
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davebut right now, i'm plugged in12:29
daveand it says12:29
dave61%12:29
dave18 hours 55mins until charged12:29
daveand it's been like that for a few hours12:29
madsenOk, which one of you guys (or gals) started the ubuntu hype?12:29
daveif anything, that time's increasing12:30
madsen... and what's your home address, I have something interesting (and ticking) to mail you... *grr*12:30
p0windahthere are hoards of closet longtime debian users in here12:30
nevynsome of whom still havn't switched12:31
daveso yeah..12:31
p0windahdebian users never truly switch :)12:31
thoreauput1ccrimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/359512:31
madsenp0windah: I'm a long time Debian user - and I keep an extra Debian nearby at all times....12:31
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davelocalhost battery-stats-collector[7886] : apm_read failed with error code 112:31
daveis wat i got12:31
daveapmd is installed12:31
p0windahmadsen: sure thing, I'm working on two right now :)12:31
nevynexcept I deployed breezy in a server rather than sarge because the 2.6 sarge ships with has a bug in the ide driver for the intel board I was using...12:31
dave(obviously, its a fresh breezy install)12:31
nevynmost upsetting12:31
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madsenp0windah: I'm dual-booting Agnula/Debian and Ubuntu Breezy - but I have a feeling that breezy is already on it's way out...12:32
davehang on... its now 42% what the hell12:32
madsenp0windah: Not much fun in coding C# on a platform it doesn't work on.12:32
p0windahdave: the magic of linux..12:32
dave(was 61% a little while ago and it's charging)12:32
daveok, this battery monitor is obviously stuffed12:33
madsenWell, gonna try a reboot as suggested by Ubuntu... Brb to bitch some more. ;] 12:33
daveis there any other battery monitor package i can get other than this gnome applet?12:33
crimsunthoreauput1c: hmm, do you actively use optical out?12:33
kevixLePoulpe303: read http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/debian12:34
thoreauput1ccrimsun: umm... no - I don't even know what it is :)12:34
crimsunthoreauput1c: digital output to a receiver capable of handling it?12:34
thoreauput1ccrimsun: no, I don't use anything like that12:34
daveoh wow! now 79% remaining12:34
thoreauput1ccrimsun: my set up is simple - I have two speakers only12:35
crimsunthoreauput1c: ok, mute 'IEC958' and unmute 'Capture'12:35
davei'm guessing the code for this battery charge monitor is "output random number from 1 to 100"12:35
thoreauput1ccrimsun: OK12:35
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macintoshrim trying to compile some dockapps on a friend's ubuntu box12:35
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macintoshrit's missing X11/xpm.h12:35
kevixdave: try'aapt-cache search battery'12:35
sigwadai download an installtion cd of ubunutu 5.10, but when it is in the stage of installing the base system, theres an error msg sounds like this "initrd-tools, chk target/var.../, "what does it means?12:36
macintoshrwhat package is that in?12:36
macintoshri've tried libxpm, xpm, libx12:36
naliothubotu: tell sigwada about verify12:36
crimsunmacintoshr: use http://packages.ubuntu.com to search12:36
macintoshrthanks12:36
Nermalmacintoshr: you want the development packages12:36
Nermalas thats a header12:36
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davethanks12:36
agti have ubuntu installed on sda1 - i'm trying to plug in my other ide hard drive and boot up, but grub gives me error 17, any suggestions?12:36
Nermalgoogle ?12:37
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LePoulpe303kevix : thanks but i'm afraid it will not help me for that  http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/194312:37
kevixmacintoshr: libxpm-dev12:38
bazookaho can help me ?!?!?!12:38
macintoshrgot it12:38
LePoulpe303+-12:38
macintoshrjust found that one, he's installing it12:38
macintoshrthanks12:38
LePoulpe303oops felt asleep on keyb12:38
thoreauput1ccrimsun: I don't see "capture" in alsamixer - the gnome mixer has 3 settings for capture - do I just unmute the mic?12:39
davei found xbattbar12:39
davenot sure how to run it12:39
gnomefreakhow do you change names in bitchx?12:39
foxgameranyone with 64bit having problems with breezy?12:39
crimsunthoreauput1c: in alsamixer, you just need to select the mic for capture. I presume you toggled it using the space bar in the F4 screen?12:39
daveanyone with 64bit running 64bit linux (not x86) is shooting themselves in the foot until people make 64 bit drivers...12:40
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crimsunthoreauput1c: otherwise you can always amixer sset 'Capture' on12:40
thoreauput1ccrimsun: let me have another look12:40
kevixthoreauput1c: press 'tab'12:41
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foxgamerdave: I have realised that now :) Am I able to backgrade to 32bit without reformatting again?12:41
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davebackup your home directory12:42
madsenBack!12:42
daveand reinstall12:42
LePoulpe303if anyone can help me for that    http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/194312:42
davethat's the best bet12:42
daveunless your home directory's on a different partition12:42
davethen u can just install on the system partition12:42
foxgamerah cool. Thanks dave. The home directory contains all my settings too?12:42
daveyep12:42
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kevixLePoulpe303: that looks like a mess. what program did you want?12:42
nekyianwt.. is this distro... no gcc? please enlight me how would I install gcc without all the deps fuss12:43
davebeauty of linux12:43
daveu'll have to reinstall any packages tho12:43
thoreauput1ccrimsun: just testing ...12:43
dave(but that's self explanatory)12:43
foxgamerthank you :) Will be nice to have a working computer again.12:43
borisI remember when updating debian would be done a 2k/s now it is updating at 220k/s12:43
borisyum12:43
qiHEWSfii have little problems setting up a zalman theatre 6 + terratec aureon system in ubuntu. does anyone know what lfe output means?12:43
LePoulpe303kevix : the total story :   i made a python program that works well on winXP, ubuntu breezy French, but that puts this message on a Horay->Breezy german box12:43
bimberinekyian: install the build-essential package12:43
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CosmoDadis the Debian Maintainer's Guide for building packages also valid for Ubuntu debs? Any reference that shows the differences available?12:44
nekyianthnk u12:44
bimberiyw :)12:44
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gnomefreakwhat is command to change user name for freenode?12:44
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crimsunCosmoDad: wiki/DeveloperResources . Yes, it's still quite valid.12:44
CosmoDadgnomefreak: /nick <name>12:44
bimberignomefreak: /nick <newnick>12:44
CosmoDadcrimsun: thx12:44
gnomefreakty12:44
kevixLePoulpe303: compare the output of  'dpkg -l' or the french and german box.12:45
thoreauput1ccrimsun: thanks again ! Working fine now - nice to have a sound genius to consult! ;-)12:45
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crimsunthoreauput1c: np12:45
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thoreauput1ccrimsun: much appreciated12:45
nekyianbimberi, oh..btw is this ubuntu a debian style linux...please excuse my ignorance..I just need to get some work done, I usually do slackware but I happen to run across this workstation and need to install sone shit and it gives me headaches?12:45
kevixCosmoDad:  read http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/debian12:45
LePoulpe303kevix : we have checked all libraries and gcc version in synaptic all seems to be the same , but perhaps we missed some12:45
borisLePoulpe303, what is the problem ?12:46
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bimberinekyian: yes, based on debian it is :) - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/12:46
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LePoulpe303boris : please scroll up12:47
borisOh right, sorry, can't help with that12:47
kevixLePoulpe303: you said its python? isn't that supposed to be portible?12:48
madsenLePoulpe303: What was the error-msg? (Don't have a browser in handy atm... Waiting for gnome to be through hanging.)12:48
LePoulpe303kevix : don't tell me about that :  i'm very sad to see all the mess i have to make something that works with windows work using linux and mac12:49
madsenkevix: You can make any portable app unportable...12:49
NermalLePoulpe303: lol12:49
thoreauput1ccrimsun: interesting - sound on breezy seems to work best for me with OSS source and esd sink whereas on hoary I had to do the dmix thing - am I right that there's no way to have games like frozen-bubble or pingus running at the same time as other music etc?12:49
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LePoulpe303madsen : Fatal Error: Mismatch between the program and library build versions detected.12:50
LePoulpe303The library used 2.6 (no debug,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 102,wx containers,compatible with 2.4),12:50
LePoulpe303and wxPython used 2.6 (no debug,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,wx containers,compatible with 2.4).12:50
crimsunthoreauput1c: not easily.12:50
Nermalask in #python ? :)12:50
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kevixLePoulpe303: that you need folks who know wxpython. I dont suspect that would be here.12:50
jtan325holy crap twinview worked12:50
thoreauput1ccrimsun: that's fine - at least this is a major improvement :))12:50
jtan325kinda...12:50
LePoulpe303Nermal : guess the answer they made12:51
jtan325does anyone know how to identify their display device names?12:51
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jtan325is it the "Identifier" line under Section "Device" in xorg.conf?12:51
NermalLePoulpe303: I have other ways of generatig useless channel traffic12:51
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Alchemist_jtan325 - for each device section you make an Identifier line12:51
LePoulpe303kevix : nobody knows that crap :D12:51
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LePoulpe303Nermal : ???12:51
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sigwadahow can i obtain a free cd of ubuntu 5.10 here in the philippines?12:51
thoreauput1cis the esound-client package necessary for remote music using freenx? (currently music plays on the server, not the client)12:52
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jtan325Alchemist_, so how do i go about making an identifier for my second lcd monitor...12:52
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kevixjtan325: echo $DISPLAY12:52
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jtan325i already have Identifier"NVIDIA Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 Go AGP 8x] "12:52
madsenLePoulpe303: Hmm, sorry, don't think I'll be of much help. :-/12:52
jtan325(that was there before i enabled twinview)12:52
LePoulpe303madsen : thanks for trying :)12:52
kevixsigwada: go to the ubuntu website!12:52
madsenLePoulpe303: hehe, np. :)12:52
madsensigwada: http://shipit.ubuntu.com12:53
Alchemist_jtan325 - add a second device section / a second screen section and a second monitor section12:53
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kutebackports12:53
Alchemist_jtan325 - you can change the default device identifier to something easier like 'card0'12:53
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jtan325ok12:53
jtan325sounds good12:53
jtan325but then where do i do Option "Twinview"12:54
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jtan325(in which section "device")12:54
jtan325and Option "TwinViewOrientation"12:54
Alchemist_jtan325 - then you make a second device section - 'card1' but actually for the same physical device12:54
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jtan325wait12:55
jtan325so i was going to make a new device, monitor, and screen section for this external lcd monitor12:55
jtan325separate from what's already configured for my laptop screen12:55
Alchemist_jtan325 - ok - do you want twinview or dual head ?12:56
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jtan325twinview please12:56
jtan325i'm following the instructions on http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=175&p_created=1101836633&p_sid=RekL2VSh&p_lva=175&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NiZwX3Byb2RzPTAmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9mbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1hcHBlbmRpeA**&p_li=&p_topview=112:56
jtan325oh crap sorry about the paste12:56
thoreauput1cjtan325: that's close to the ugliest URL I've ever seen :)12:56
Alchemist_jtan325 - ok - well just setup a second 'monitor' and 'screen' section and add the options into one device section12:56
jtan325haha thoreauput1c12:57
jtan325Alchemist_, alright, I will try that12:57
jtan325and let's say I wanted to unplug my external lcd monitor12:57
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jtan325and take my laptop somewhere12:57
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jtan325how do i safely "disable" it?12:57
jtan325or do i have to shutdown first and then unplug12:57
thoreauput1cjtan325: if nvidia apply the same methods to their cards as their website, I'm staying away <grin>12:58
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jtan325haha thoreauput1c, at least it's more problem-free than the stuff i've heard about ATI cards12:58
sun_HIA12:58
thoreauput1cjtan325: true :)12:58
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sun_hi ,everyone12:59
sun_have a good day12:59
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madsenGawd... I'm gonna go sleep and try to dream of something that doesn't have to do with my fscked up Mono/dbus...12:59
madsenSee ya later!01:00
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jtan325Alchemist_, it says in the nvidia site to use "display device names"...01:01
jtan325but if there's only one Device section01:01
jtan325...01:01
jtan325how would I set an identifier for each screen01:02
thoreauputicOK time to go again - thanks crimsun, night all01:02
jtan325(besides the ones in their separate monitor and screen sections)01:02
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boxerboy29this is weird but kinda cool01:04
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Stormx2Does anyone know a way to seemlessly mount an ftp folder?01:04
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golan77hi to everybody!01:06
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Stormx2Hey to you!01:06
boxerboy29good morning01:06
golan77I see that this new kubuntu 5.10 rocks!01:07
manas82852/855GM graphics card in my ThinkPad is refusing to get accelerated  :( Anyone have an idea ?01:07
johnnywhere can i put my own .desktop files ?01:07
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johnnyin $HOME01:07
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golan77what do you suggest as IMAP client on ubuntu? I quite don't like thunderbird01:08
gnomefreaki love thunderbird its easy set up01:08
Nermalevolution ?01:09
Nermalbalsa ?01:09
Nermalmutt ?01:09
gnomefreakkmail01:09
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golan77what about kmail? are you currently using it as IMAP ?01:09
gnomefreaki am using ubuntu not kubuntu01:09
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golan77thanks anyway gnomefreak... well, your nick explains a lot :-)01:10
gnomefreakand my mail are all pop3 i think the ones i set up anyway01:10
johnnyevolution is a bit too much of a hog for me01:10
johnnyi just use thunderbird01:10
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golan77johnny, i agree with u01:10
johnnywaiting for some of the gtk+ performance fixes to get merged in01:10
johnnyhopefully there will be enough to make a difference by the time we get to dapper drake01:11
golan77ok01:11
johnnythe big time gtk+ folks did some serious profiling works01:11
johnnyin the recent past ..01:11
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johnnythat should make things alot nicer in the long term01:11
frans-thall, know openldap? where i can install it? i use breezy here01:11
frans-thnothing in the repos01:11
johnnyso anybody know about a place in $HOME to put .desktop files01:12
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peritusgnome is not loading when i login, i just get the brown background and the mouse. i can still move the mouse. what can be wrong?01:12
gnomefreakperitus im assuming you tried to reboot?01:12
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peritusgnomefreak: yeah01:13
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peritus5.10 fresh install01:13
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gnomefreakperitus  is this the first boot or have you made the first boot already?01:13
perituser. yesterday gnome like hung up and i just pushed the power button. started now again.01:13
peritusi have logged in succesfully before01:14
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hamouhziHELLO01:14
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Stormx2HEY01:14
Stormx2!mp301:14
ubotump3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)01:14
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Bluemat!w32codecs01:16
ubotusomebody said w32codecs was a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)01:16
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gnomefreakperitus im not sure i was gonna say try to reconfig your xorg file(setting) but i had a black screen not brown so im not real sure01:16
Turandotcomo puedo slir de la intalacion que hace el cd de ubuntu?01:16
peritusgnomefreak: oh wait01:16
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peritusgnomefreak: now, after like 5 minutes im logged in01:16
gnomefreakTurandot english please01:16
Turandothay canales de ingles?01:16
gnomefreak!es01:17
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:17
Turandotde espaol?01:17
Turandotgracias01:17
QuaruptedSi, estan Hablar en espanol01:17
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Quaruptedque?01:17
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QuaruptedAyuda?01:18
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gnomefreak!es01:20
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:20
peritusgnomefreak: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&forumid=1&threadid=225837 that seems to be my problem. the same lines in the logs01:20
QuaruptedNo I was trying to help him in Spanish, I speak english01:20
gnomefreakoh sorry01:21
Quaruptedlol its cool01:21
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jtan325has anyone gotten dual-head to work (not twinview)?01:21
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gnomefreakperitus thats not a valid address01:22
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peritusgnomefreak: what?01:22
stuart_test01:23
gnomefreakthe link you posted doesnt give me a thread01:23
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peritusgnomefreak: "The first time I login after boot it takes gdm about 5 minutes before it starts up Gnome. When I log in without X it also takes about 5 minutes to log me in (unless I log in as root for some weird reason). Anyway, after the first login it's al fast again. Any idea's how I can fix this? Any suggestions would be appreciated."01:23
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peritusand then like01:23
peritus"Sep  2 18:57:23 cc109776-a gconfd (pathfinder-4203): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only config source at position 0"01:23
stuart_can anyone advise me on user memory and used swap?01:23
peritusin the logs01:23
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flow-hello, just got 5.10 from ftp.fu.berlin and checksum of ./install/netboot/pxelinux.0 is uncorrect, install is aborting, *.iso checksum of 5.10 is correct tho01:24
stuart_i reckon there may be a problem with the way memory is handled?01:24
gnomefreakperitus im not real sure01:25
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termitor_taffhello, i have some bug with sane , who have bug too ?01:25
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egoleohey01:25
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tttripleits because your father is gay01:26
egoleohow do i recover a file deleted on ubuntu01:26
flow-can someone confirm this checksum error?01:26
qiHEWSfidoes anyone own a combination of terratec 5.1 pci aureon fun and zalman theatre6 surround headphones and has all channels outputting properly?01:26
termitor_taffxsane segfault if hpijs is setup01:26
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stuart_anyone know how  memory is handled?01:26
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tttriplehow do i pick up chicks at partys? do i need to upgrade to 5.10? or is 5.04 fine?01:26
egoleohow do i recover a deleted file01:27
stuart_my swap and user memory do not seem to get released?????01:27
mahangu_tttriple, we prefer to keep things civil in here01:27
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tttripledoesnt seem very civil at the moment01:28
tttripleeven with -ttriple01:28
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mahangu_tttriple, let's not refer to each others' fathers, that's all01:28
jtan325has anyone gotten dual-head to work (not twinview)?01:28
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qiHEWSfii have to say that this combo rocks. for 50 bucks, you have yourself semi-hifi 5.1 headphones and a fully ubuntu 5.10 compatible 5.1 system using a very high quality budget soundcard called aureon 5.1 pci fun. the speakers are known as 'zalman theatre 6'01:29
qiHEWSfithe headphones that is01:30
egoleohow do i recover a deleted01:30
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golan77a question: how can i add a "show desktop" (that is, minimize all open windows) icon on the menu bar?01:30
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Efils_Godhello all your newest newb here01:31
siimogolan77, right click > Add01:31
qiHEWSfigolean 77 click on the panel desired, select add to panel and find the icon there01:31
golan77yes but... which icon?01:31
siimogolan77, scroll down the list one is called shoe desktop01:31
Efils_Godif the files i want are in my windows my documents folder will i be unable to access them?01:32
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Efils_Godi get a message that i don't have permission to axx them01:32
golan77siimo, which list?01:32
siimoright click add to panel will show you a list golan7701:32
tttripleoi why doesnt perl work with apache01:33
stuart_can anyone advise about memory????????????01:33
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flow-hello, just got 5.10 from ftp.fu.berlin and checksum of ./install/netboot/pxelinux.0 is uncorrect, install is aborting, *.iso checksum of 5.10 is correct tho01:33
egoleohow do undelete a file on ubuntu01:33
tttripleegoleo,  if its not in the trash bin its gone01:33
stuart_surely someone here knows something about swap space...???01:33
golan77siimo, sorry i didn't mention... i'm with kubuntu01:33
tttripleflow-,  your burner is burning corrupt cds01:33
golan77maybe i need to join #kubuntu01:33
tttripleyeahhhh may be01:34
flow-no tttriple, the unpacked iso is already corrupt01:34
siimogolan77, -> # kubuntu01:34
golan77thanks!01:34
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flow-that has nothing to do with my burner01:34
siimo#kubuntu01:34
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egoleohey01:34
egoleomy assignment01:34
flow-the whole iso checksum is correct, but not the pxelinux.0 (unpacked)01:34
egoleoand i need to get it by now01:34
egoleoso is there no way i can recover that01:34
stuart_M E M O R Y help please01:35
jjdWhen I run the Synaptic Package Manager it gives me this error "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://za.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/za.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"01:35
gnomefreaki thought the only difference in commands from ubuntu to kubuntu was like gedit=kedit in kubuntu?01:35
jjdIs this a problem or can I ignore it?01:35
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bimberijjd: A "Reload" will probably clear it01:36
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Nermalstuart_: your spacebar appears to also activate itself at regular intervals01:36
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Efils_Godwould i have to move the files i want to view in ubuntu from the windows my document folder to view them?01:36
gnomefreaki know the us and uk sources work not sure about za01:36
NermalEfils_God: nope01:36
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Nermalcan read fat32 / ntfs under linux01:36
qiHEWSfiis there a 5.1 testing utility for ubuntu?01:37
stuart_i'm just attention seeking - can u help with memory?01:37
Efils_Godits saying i don't have permission to access the folder01:37
gnomefreakEfils_God  try as root?01:37
Efils_Godsystem disks program to do that?01:38
Efils_Godhmm01:38
BluematAnyone know of an text editor that has FTP built in??01:38
Bluematbesides emacs..01:38
Nermalerm01:38
Nermalmad01:39
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Efils_Godweird i can access it now01:39
gnomefreaknot sure but im assuming vim does also01:39
stuart_MMEEMMOORRYY help please01:39
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KenSentMeBluemat: i was also looking for one, but haven't found one that works the way i do01:40
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stuart_ubuntu does not allow memory to be freed up?01:40
KenSentMeBluemat: i mean 'the way i want to'01:40
Efils_Godone more question guys if its ok01:40
limguohong91Hi how do i have the special caldener thing formy Ubuntu?01:40
Efils_Godtrying to play a divx file do i need to download the audio codecs for it cause im not getting any sound01:41
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tttripleall these problems you have, can be fixed by installing windows01:41
KenSentMetttriple: now that's a solution!01:41
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gnomefreaklimguohong91 special calender thing?01:41
Efils_Godwhere the fun in that?01:41
gnomefreaktttriple only problem there is you have more problems in windows01:41
tttripleit appears to work for a while01:42
limguohong91gnomefreak: Some people have a caladener on their desktop that is not the default, On the other ways how can i change it?01:42
stuart_c'mon guys, help me with meory prob plssssse01:42
tttripleout of the box it does01:42
KenSentMeEfils_God: exactly, try searchin the wiki (wiki.ubuntu.com)01:42
gnomefreaklimguohong91 ive seen different calenders in synaptic01:42
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gnomefreakstuart_: linux doesnt allow for memory to be freed up???????01:43
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limguohong91gnomefreak okay01:43
Efils_Godit says there is no audio output available when i try and play an mp3 do i need to install drivers? I have nforce2 onboard audio01:43
gnomefreakEfils_God  you might need codecs01:43
tttripleJust like Winows 95 the memory is locked untill reboot01:43
KenSentMeEfils_God: do you get a sound when ubuntu starts up?01:43
Efils_Godyeah i do01:43
stuart_yeah maybe -- i opened a lot of photos and applications and physical memory utilisation increases and eventually swap was used01:43
larryhelp on recovery of deleted files01:44
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gnomefreakstuart_: how much memory do you have?01:44
larryhow do i recover a deleted file01:44
stuart_closing the files/applications did not result in the expected amount of memory becoming available01:44
jtan325has anyone gotten dual-head to work (not twinview)?01:44
stuart_512mb ram01:44
gnomefreakstuart_: and thats not enough?01:44
stuart_swap was set by Ubuntu at approx 780 Mb01:45
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Efils_Godwhat exactly is a wiki?01:45
gnomefreakswap should be close to double ur memory01:45
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gnomefreakEfils_God wiki is help pages01:45
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stuart_yeay it's enough, but ubuntu is stealing it and i wonder wether it's like in the days of windows 98, that the system will slowly grind to a halt with memory leakage?01:45
r00t_hi01:46
Efils_Goddo the win32 codecs include audio ones? cause i can't find just audio codecs01:46
stuart_also, it seems to resort to swap when there is still physical memory available01:46
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gnomefreakstuart_: i have 512mb ram and i dont have any memory issues i dont think ive ever used swap yet thats why im stunned.01:47
larryso there is no way to recover a file01:47
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kbrookslarry: technically there is01:47
kbrookslarry: not on ext301:47
gnomefreaklarry: not sure how to get them back01:47
kbrooksgnomefreak: You can't on ext3.01:48
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stuart_with nothing open other than wot the system starts automatically im using 119Mb swap. I dont know any way to get this back other than to reboot01:48
kbrooksI tried.01:48
gnomefreakkbrooks isnt default ext 3 on breezy01:48
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Efils_Godwhere can i find audio codecs?01:48
linxehstuart_: i've had machines running for 2-3 years without a reboot that dont grind to a halt, and various desktops at work run for 4-6 months before we reboot them - they work fine01:48
kbrooksgnomefreak: ext3 IS default on breezy01:48
stuart_(as reported by the system monitor installed by default)01:48
gnomefreakthats what i thought01:49
gnomefreakstuart_: i really think you have a hardware issue with your memory sticks01:49
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KenSentMeubotu tell Efils_God about codecs01:49
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tttripleoi flash keeps 4ucking up mozilla and the audio doesnt work01:49
kbrooksgnomefreak: please organize your sentences right01:49
stuart_how would i check that (system is stable and everything else seems fine)?01:49
kbrooksgnomefreak: "ext3 isn't default on breezy" < i read your sentence as this01:50
linxehstuart_: it will be fine. how much memory was free, and how much was still used for "buffers" ?01:50
gnomefreakkbrooks oh ok sorry i meant it is default01:50
johnmgnomefreak: swap space has nothing to do with phsyical memory01:51
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Efils_Godim looking in the wiki all i can see are the win32 codecs i've installed them but still have no sound01:51
kbrooksgnomefreak: then say so! you weren't comprehensible01:51
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tttriplei re read gnomefreak 's messages and i comprehended them01:51
marinhoCmo puedo or la cadena ser desde ubuntu?01:51
johnmstuart_: swap is used when the pages in memory are not active.. and as such is moved to swap space to save real RAM for other things01:51
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Efils_Godim using totem movie player01:51
limguohong91gnomefreak even though there is an options in Synaptic i installed the calder but how do i change it?01:51
johnmstuart_: it's normally old cached data.01:51
kbrooksfree = mem + cache + buffers01:51
Prabu^hello all01:51
kbrooksfree = mem + cache + buffers01:51
kbrooks^01:51
Prabu^are there MySQL 4.1 packages for Ubuntu ?01:51
stuart_system memory is currently sitting at aprrox 58% and swap at 15%01:52
kbrooks!info mysql01:52
larryyes01:52
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tttriple!info apache01:52
ubotuapache: (versatile, high-performance HTTP server), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.3.33-8 (breezy), Packaged size: 374 kB, Installed size: 804 kB01:52
larryhow do i recover a deleted file01:52
kbrooks!info mysql-client01:52
ubotumysql-client: (mysql database client binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 403 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB01:52
johnmstuart_: you can safely trust it sitting at 100% total usage, assumign that most og it is cached01:52
kbrooks!info mysql-server01:52
ubotumysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3471 kB, Installed size: 8796 kB01:52
linxehstuart_: run the "free -m" command01:52
kestashi, I ran a server installation but for some reason eth0 isn't getting set up on startup01:52
kbrooksPrabu^: no01:52
kbrooks^01:52
kestasI have to set it up myself with ifconfig01:52
kbrooksPrabu^: client and server are both 4.001:52
kestaswhich I don't understand because /etc/networks/interfaces is set up correctly01:52
brownie17bob2, i finally managed to get my breezy update to work, but now i want to know, in synpatic all the packages are white squares with yellow stars, what does this mean?01:52
tttriplewho wants to help me get perl working on apache01:52
stuart_so would that be web pages visited and that sort of thing?01:52
Prabu^yea01:52
limguohong91How do i add in a special calader features that other Ubuntu user have?01:53
Prabu^guess i gotta do alot of work :S01:53
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stuart_free -m   --- ill give it a go01:53
johnmstuart_: it isn't quite like that. but yeah. almost :)01:53
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kestasit may have something to do with that I changed the network card after I installed ubuntu, would this cause this problem01:53
kestas?01:53
linxehstuart_: file accesses mainly01:53
limguohong91How do i add in a special calader features that other Ubuntu user have? Instead of using the default i belive there is anyway way to show the calader in a better way01:54
kestasbob2, you're a unix guru right? I also see Seveas01:54
kestascan either of you help me out?01:54
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Efils_Godflash audio works01:54
tttriplehow01:54
kbrookskestas: dont assume anyone cant help you out. and dont ask to ask01:54
tttripleits seriosuly not wokring01:54
kbrooksJUST ASK01:54
KenSentMeEfils_God: do you get a sound when ubuntu starts up?01:55
stuart_ok -- free -m reports different figures than the sys monitor (gui)01:55
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corincolecan anyone tell me if www.projecthack.org  dispalys?  :)01:55
kestaskbrooks, I posted my question above01:55
Nermal ah.. kbrooks I was wondering when you would appear01:55
kbrooksNermal: yes?01:55
Nermaldoing the exact same thing you bitched at me for months ago01:55
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tttriplei dont trust you corincole01:55
kestaskbrooks, but it got ignored01:55
corincoletttriple? why not?01:55
iiiearsG'morning kbrooks good to see you. :001:55
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iiiears:)01:55
corincoleits going to download viruses to ure pc :P01:55
tttriplebecause01:55
kbrookslol01:55
kestaskbrooks, and Im assuming anyone cant help me out because no-one has01:55
corincole???01:55
stuart_swap is same, but of "total mem" it reports 472 with 466 used01:55
tttripleyou went :) after the url01:55
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linxehstuart_: what does it say for buffers and cached ?01:56
kbrookscorincole: 1. very few viruses in linux01:56
corincoleexactly01:56
stuart_whereas the gui suggests 60% utilisation??01:56
corincolethats a smiley face01:56
corincole: )01:56
kestasguys should I use KDE or GNOME?01:56
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corincoleas in, thankyou for helping me01:56
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tttriplei know01:56
corincolelol01:56
tttriplea suspocious one01:56
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Nermalkestas: try both and choose01:56
corincoledont if u dont want to though01:56
corincole8 -)01:56
deelercan someone convince me why to use ubuntu instead of debian ?01:56
stuart_buffers total 776, used 11801:56
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corincoleuse it u stupid ******!   ubuntu is better!!!01:57
corincolelol01:57
Nermaldeeler: faster release cycle, more user friendly out of the box ? :)01:57
kbrookscorincole: i suggest you be nice01:57
Nermalhe is01:57
deelerNermal: what about broken packages ? and the amount of packages ?01:57
Nermalhis humor is just very simple01:57
kestasis this a support channel?01:57
kestasor chat?01:57
iiiearskestas it is a matter of personal preference. - gnome is a little faster and has been developed a bit longer. but KDE is a bit nicer looking with more settings to easily change the desktop appearence.01:57
kbrookskestas: both01:57
Nermaldeeler: less packages but still plenty..01:57
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Nermalnot many broken ones on stable releases01:57
qiHEWSfido you know if changing alsa device mixer settings requires a reboot? i would like to enable as presented center/lfe output in mic connection but the connection does not seem to activate that output..01:57
tttriplekde is like unpro, kinda fun and childish01:57
Nermalkestas: it's a n00b-pit :|01:58
tttriplegnome doesnt put up with shit01:58
Stormx2Ubuntu is debian with all the differculty taken out ^_^01:58
kbrooksiiiears: erm, kde > gnome in terms of developing01:58
kbrookstttriple: lets not be rude01:58
tttripleit knows what it wants and wont fuck around01:58
Nermalkbrooks: hush01:58
Nermalyou flame starter you :)01:58
deelerNermal ; the reason why i want to move is because the amd64 support of debian is bad .... what about the ubuntu amd support ?01:58
kbrooksNermal: i start flames? dude.01:58
Nermaldeeler: well. ubuntu uses new kernels01:58
kestasbecause I have a problem that my interface card isn't getting set up on start up, yet /etc/networks/interfaces is set up okay, and I can set it up manually using ifconfig, yet everyone ignores my question. yet I get in depth responses for 'should I use kde or gnome'01:58
Stormx2ubuntu supports amd64 fine ^_^01:58
Nermalso I guess support on a kernel level should be better01:58
tttripleits because your father is gay01:58
kestasseems like a chat/opinion chan01:58
Nermalapp wise I dunno.. not used 64 bit ubuntu01:59
Stormx2if people need help we help them01:59
johnmNermal: do ubuntu release a 64bit userland though.. thats the real question :)01:59
Stormx2stop critisising01:59
tttriplewhoops i reposed a message by accident01:59
kbrooksNermal: this is NOT a noob pit01:59
qiHEWSfito be noted: kubuntu live torrent is extreeemely slow01:59
Nermalkbrooks: is it NOT ?01:59
iiiearsi dunno. - grin - i use gnome fast and light. still a lot of ways to change it's appearence.01:59
kestasStormx2, I need help, and kbrooks it seems to be01:59
kbrooksNermal: nope it isnt01:59
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Nermalbless01:59
stuart_u still there James?01:59
kestaseth0 isn't getting set up on startup, yet /etc/networks/interfaces is set up correctly01:59
kbrookskestas: well'01:59
kestasand I can set it up with ifconfig eht001:59
kestas*eth001:59
tttriplethis is a noob pit01:59
johnmdeeler: imo, the best thing for amd64 users is to use a full 64 bit platform. most binary distros dont do it. source ones of course will. although the actual userland isn't totally important, the kernel support is moreso.02:00
kbrookskestas: biased answers02:00
Efils_Godken sent me the audio work when ubuntu starts up flash has audio too but when i try and play an mp3 or a video file there is no audio output available for totem02:00
kbrookstttriple: stop it02:00
kbrookstttriple: no its not02:00
Nermalwaa waa02:00
Stormx2kestas: Try resetting your router/modem before booting up02:00
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tttripleit is!02:00
Nermaltoys -> pram02:00
Stormx2see if that does any good.02:00
kbrookstttriple: newbies == more users02:00
tttriplejust read it for like 5 minutes02:00
tttripleyeah02:00
Nermalkbrooks: contribute help andstop trying to herd the n00bs02:00
kbrooksmore experts02:00
tttripleok02:00
Nermal:)02:00
kestaskbrooks, what does that mean? Stormx2 this is an ethernet card which connects to my LAN02:00
tim__Hi all, is there an easy way of getting PHP to run under Apache using Ubuntu ?02:00
Nermalsudo apt-get install mod-php4 ?02:00
tttripleThis channel has alot of new users who dont know much about anything , yet.02:00
Stormx2!lamp02:00
ubotulamp is probably Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP02:00
deelerI need a server (asterisk+iptables+cups+ipsec+sshd) with a minimal desktop that needs to be able to run a browser and openoffice , i heard openoffice is problematic on amd64 .  is that true ?02:00
kestas'biased answers' just some vague comment because you have no clue kbrooks ?02:01
kbrookskestas: no, i'm telling u what i think others are saying about gnome / kde in 2 words02:01
Stormx2stop flaming.02:01
iiiearstim__ psst. - there are packages but i would chack out the "L.A.M.P." project at sourceforge02:01
zaydanawhere would i find examples from a [library] -examples package? Like the wx-examples one...02:01
tttriplekde = c hildish     gnome = pro02:02
stuart_linxeh -- are u there?02:02
kestaskbrooks, I dont care about gnome/kde, I asked to see whether I would get responses to see if people weren't responding to me or they didn't know about my question02:02
iiiearsLAMP = linux apache mysql php02:02
kestasand it seems no-one knows about my question02:02
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deeleri'm thinking of installing the latest amd64 server version of ubuntu and manually add all packeges needed for a minimal desktop + ooffice  .... should that work ???02:02
Stormx2Who cares about which is better? Its you opinion whether you use KDE or GNOME. Stop being flaming newbies and settle down.02:02
kbrookstttriple: I prefer GNOME to KDE. KDE segfaulted for me on Arch Linux02:02
kestaslisten I don't care about GNOME vs KDE, I care about why my interface card isn't getting set up on startup02:03
Stormx2The whole reason both exist is because some people use KDE and some use GNOME.02:03
tttriplei stoped liking kde once i relised i didnt like it02:03
kbrookstttriple: but if GNOME is problematic, i'll use kde then02:03
tttriplealthough i hate the gnome logo02:03
Stormx2kestas: I'm sorry I'm of no help. if i knew a solution I would tell you, but I'm new to this too.02:03
kbrookskestas: listen we already told you, restart router02:03
kestasI asked it to see whether you guys weren't listening to me, or if you didn't understand about my non-moronic question of 'why isn't my card getting set up on startup'?02:03
tttripleits like wtf im a crap logo02:03
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kestaskbrooks, I told you the card connects to my LAN, not a router02:04
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deeleri'm thinking of installing the latest amd64 server version of ubuntu and manually add all packeges needed for a minimal desktop + ooffice  .... should that work ???02:04
iiiearsdeeler - gnome isn't going to eat up that much disk space or processor cycles if you aren't using it. - why add it later?02:04
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Nermaldeeler: yup02:04
Nermalshould do02:04
Efils_Godwhat is the correct output plugin?02:04
bestadvocatehey guys02:04
kestasand you're all still going on about kde vs gnome, just like I knew you would, like a load of FAQ bots02:04
Efils_Godfor audio02:04
NermalEfils_God: for ?02:04
Nermalalsa ?02:04
kbrookskestas: okay.02:04
qt2err, does anyone know how i'd play audio on my computer in skype under ubuntu? in winows i could just set my "microphone" to be the "line out"02:04
Stormx2kestas: Can you connect to LAN, but not internet?02:04
kbrooksi'll stop now02:04
deeleri would use WindowMaker, our company uses it for about 10  years now02:04
tttriplekestas, we can talk about it if we want02:05
kbrookstttriple: no02:05
Efils_Godsound works but not for media files02:05
NermalDENIED02:05
tttriplejust because u started it with your response test, doesnt mean you can stif us02:05
deelerit's easy to configure and fully dummy-proof02:05
kestasStormx2, I can connect to the LAN, but I have to go 'ifconfig eth0 10.10.1.50', it doesn't do it by itself on startup02:05
NermalEfils_God: what media files02:05
kbrookstttriple: do you know #ubuntu-offtopic02:05
tttriplestop us02:05
kbrooks?02:05
Nermalgod.. give us some info02:05
iiiearsdeeler - windowmaker - hm - i'll have to check that out.02:05
Efils_Godmp3s divx xvid02:05
iiiearsthanks02:05
tim__iiiears :  Thanks, Ill give it a go :o)02:05
Efils_Godthe video files play but without sound02:05
NermalEfils_God: mp3 is apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad02:05
tttripleno i didnt02:05
Nermalgod.. grow up guys02:05
deeleriiiears, don't expect the features of gnome/kde ... its more minimal02:05
kestasso I looked at /etc/networks/interfaces, where the startup details are, and it looks like it's in order02:06
Nermalput your toys back in your prams or leave02:06
kbrookstttriple: tal02:06
kbrooksk t02:06
Stormx2kestas: Hmm. My thoughts are its trying to do that before bringing up the network interface... but I have no idea.02:06
kbrookser02:06
kbrookstttriple: talk there02:06
tttriplewhats does tal mean02:06
tttriplemaybe i will02:06
Stormx2#02:06
kbrookstttriple: about gnome / kde02:06
kestasStormx2, do what?02:06
Nermalgo bitchfight somewhere else02:06
deeleranyone got ubuntu+amd64+openoffice? tell me your experiences with it please02:06
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Stormx2#ubuntu-offtopic for bitchfighting02:06
Efils_Godpermission denied02:06
tttripleunless i have a proper bulshit question for this channel02:06
kestasStormx2, do what before bringing up the interface02:06
NermalEfils_God: sudo fffs02:06
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Nermal-f02:06
Efils_Godlol02:06
kbrookslets stop it all02:06
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Efils_Godoh yeah02:06
Nermaljesus02:06
Efils_Godsorry02:06
Stormx2kestas: Listen, I don't know. Sorry I don't!02:06
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kestasanyone here know anything that doesn't get asked here 1000 times a day?02:07
Stormx2kestas: I'm new to this, and sometimes people in the channel just flame. Not often.02:07
Nermalkestas: hush02:07
tttripleand why would i talk in a idle room02:07
stuart_lol kestas02:07
tttriplemight as well go talk to my cpu fan02:07
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Stormx2Have fun with that02:07
CoffeeBreakstrying to help someone remotely to check his ubuntu live CD. How do I make her check the integrity of the CD? Is there a boot option somewhere?02:07
Nermaltttriple: nah.. cpu fans are just full of hot air ;)02:07
Stormx2CoffeeBreaks: md5 sum, methinks02:08
deeleranyone got ubuntu+amd64+openoffice? tell me your experiences with it please02:08
Efils_Godi already have it on the system02:08
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Efils_Godnewest version02:08
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halibuthow can I extract the sound from an avi file to mp3?02:08
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iiiearsmd5sum - works with the terminal for files never tried to check an already botted CD.02:08
tttriplehas anyone had intocourse? tell me your experences with it please?02:08
CoffeeBreaksStormx2: md5sum was OK. I need to check the burnt CD. Usually there's a way to check the CD using a boot option. Knoppix does it.02:08
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stuart_Debian vs Ubuntu --- how come Debian (granted it has older packages) seems a lot snappier -- especially Open Office?02:08
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KenSentMestuart_: snappier?02:09
kestasSeveas, can you please help me out? no-one understands what's going wrong02:09
KenSentMewhat's that?02:09
kestasSeveas, they all just start prattling on about KDEvsGNOME02:09
Seveasfools...02:09
Seveaskestas, what's the prob?02:09
Efils_Godis there any more codecs i need other than the ones on the restricted format page?02:09
kestaseth0 isn't getting set up on startup, yet /etc/networks/interfaces is set up correctly02:10
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_native_good morning all :-)02:10
Seveaskestas, are you using network-manager?02:10
Efils_Godalso how do i unrestrict a folder so i don't have to go into diskmanager to browse it02:10
stuart_faster open office loads in about 1/3 the time. By the way, how do you make your text red to stand out?02:10
kestasSeveas, no I've installed the server system02:10
Seveaskestas, paste your interfaces file on the bin02:10
kestasSeveas, also I can do ifconfig eth0 1.2.3.4 fine02:10
iiiearsHello Seveas :)02:10
Seveashi iiiears02:10
hyphenatedkestas: if your /etc/network/interfaces file is set correctly, you should be able to do 'sudo ifup eth0'02:11
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hyphenatedkestas: note - not ifconfig02:11
apokryphosamarok 1.3.5 ubuntu packs are out: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.5.php02:11
kestasSeveas, that's a bit of a prob because I cant set up dns with ifconfig02:11
Efils_Godwhat packs are these?02:11
kestashyphenated, thanks great idea02:11
kestashyphenated, 1 sec Ill try it out02:11
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Seveaskestas, if you have a static IP, dns server addresses go in /etc/resolv.conf02:11
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kestasSeveas, hmm k02:12
NutterUKHi02:12
kestashyphenated, yes that works fine02:12
kestasany ideas on why it doesn't do it on startup?02:13
kestasone thing; I installed it, but then I changed the interface card just after installing it02:13
_native_do prism2.5 pcmcia usually work out the box?02:13
kestasbecause the card doesn't like linux02:13
kestascould this have messed up a config file?02:13
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qiHEWSfiall interfaces are found in etc/network/interfaces file02:14
kestasSeveas, I could get the interfaces file for you but I would have to install smbfs and copy it over to this machine, and upload it from here02:14
qiHEWSfior type ifconfig in terminal02:14
kestasand it looks okay02:14
hyphenatedkestas: could have, but I'd look for something more obvious first :-)02:14
kestasqiHEWSfi, thanks for that nugget of wisdom ;p02:14
Seveaskestas does it have an 'auto eth0' line?02:14
kestasSeveas, 1 sec Ill check02:14
qiHEWSfikestas yeah well you have to know the basics too :)02:14
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iiiearsSeveas you are awesome. ;)02:14
hyphenatedkestas: can you install 'etherconf' and configure it with that?02:15
qiHEWSfiifconfig eth0 inet dhcp up02:15
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qiHEWSfithat's all it takes02:15
[matrim] I need osme help, how do I restrict a user to only access it's home directory, so basicly the home/$user should be the root directory?02:15
amitaykHow do I make Windows my default in the dual boot screen?02:15
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kestasSeveas, nope, I added it, I think you may have cracked it :)02:15
woland_hello guys! i recently advised a friend to try ubuntu which she like very much, can anyone point me in the direction of a newbies guide that she can learn from?02:16
kestasSeveas, any idea why it didn't add it itself though?02:16
kestasSeveas, rebooting now btw02:16
deelerdoes ubuntu support the asc39320 SCSI controller ?02:16
qiHEWSfiif you don't wanna boot just type ifconfig et0 inet dhcp up if the device is working in the hardware level02:16
qiHEWSfikestas do that first02:16
kestasqiHEWSfi, I already have, the device works02:16
kestasqiHEWSfi, it just doesnt start up automatically02:16
kestasqiHEWSfi, but it proabbly does now02:16
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qiHEWSfimaybe you need to have auto anyway02:17
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qiHEWSfior allow-hotplug eth0 and auto eth002:17
qqqquadhi there02:17
kestasriiight02:17
linxehdeeler: it is supported by the aic79xx module in the kernel, so ubuntu should support it02:17
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Murrlindangit. how do I move the top toolbar around?02:17
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Efils_Godim missing the gstreamer0.8-lame package on synaptic would this be affecting the audio?02:17
deelerthx linxeh02:17
kestasSeveas, thanks you nailed it02:18
amitaykHi. How do I make Windows XP my default in the dual boot screen?02:18
kestasSeveas, I owe you one02:18
linxehdeeler: http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.6/1/Documentation/scsi/aic79xx.txt (the module notes)02:18
[matrim] anyone good at user acount handling02:18
linxeh[matrim] : just ask a specific question02:18
kestasSeveas, I wish this chan had more people like you and hyphenated who dont just talk about KDEvsGNOME and how to mount ntfs volumes02:18
[matrim] i did and noone replied :P02:18
kestasbye02:18
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linxehwhen they log in ?02:19
[matrim] I need tp restict a user that accesses from ssh to only be able to acces the home directory02:19
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EnliteI just installed apache2 and php4, but any php file prompts to download..02:19
linxehhow are they going to run a shell? or ls?02:19
jtan325anyone know what the mutliverse is?02:20
jtan325the defaults seem to be broken02:20
jtan325!multiverse02:20
ubotuask me about !repositories02:20
Stormx2!repos02:20
ubotusomebody said sources was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)02:20
iiiearsamitayk - grub has a config file you can edit using visudo02:20
iiiears!grub02:20
Seveas!no multiverse is <reply> see repositories02:20
uboturumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting02:20
ubotuSeveas: okay02:20
amitaykiiiears: Where I can find visudo and that file?02:21
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jtan325thanks02:21
herrpoonstrikesi cant seem to access ubuntuforums.org02:21
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herrpoonstrikesanyone else having problems?02:21
_jasonherrpoonstrikes:  yes02:22
linxehamblin: try the locate command02:22
herrpoonstrikesthanks02:22
MenZa`Yep, can't.02:22
MenZa`I'll try pinging it.02:22
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[matrim] hiw do I restrict SSH users to specific directoried, I don't want them to sniff alt he way back to my /root02:22
qqqquadHi there i changed my nick from its previous, and now its diffret, since chaning the nick i have not flamed or been rude02:22
linxeh[matrim] : did you read my replies ?02:23
nalioth_zZz[matrim] : restrict their access on the box (user permissions)02:23
qqqquadtherefore i am not the same02:23
jtan325has anyone gotten dual-head working (not twinview)?02:23
Stormx2Ack. Seveas, what disadvantages would a root account have?02:23
Stormx2!root02:23
ubotusomebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:23
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linxehgah, why is that wiki on https?!02:23
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Efils_Godif i don't have the gstreamer0.8 package is that going to affect audio?02:24
[matrim] linxeh, sorry, didn't see them, They are going to be shell users02:24
Seveas(teamwork ;)02:24
linxeh[matrim] : sure, but if you restrict their access to just their home directory they wont be able to get to /bin for things like their shell and normal userspace commands like ls02:24
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iiiearsami, the file to edit is in /boot/grub  - your editor of choice will need root priv. to edit (psst, i often use gksudo gedit - IMPORTANT CHECK your spelling and syntax twice else a mistake will make life hard after a reboot.)02:25
linxeh[matrim] : you are better off not allowing people access to things you dont want them to see using directory permissions (making things readable by yourself or a group of users))02:25
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qiHEWSfiso does the alsa system need a reboot for all settings to be recycled?02:26
qiHEWSfior is there a direct way of doing that02:26
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bestadvocateMorning everyone (atleast to those in my timezone), I have a big problem with my laptop hard crashing, and I was wondering if anyone has the ability to help me figure out why its happening and how i can stop it.02:26
amitaykiiiears: I've the priv. but I really don't have a clue how to run an editor from the Ubuntu GUI...02:27
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qiHEWSfialt-f202:27
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wickedpuppyamitayk, try this ... sudo gedit /boot/grub02:27
Efils_Godhmm i had xine gstream package installed but not totem is that why it didn't work?02:27
BooZeeis there a program like GAIM which has more features in it?02:27
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apokryphosBooZee: what type of features? Alternatives are Kopete and aMSN02:28
MenZa`Isn't Kopete for kde though?02:28
iiiearsamitayk - visudo is safer as i believe it checks syntax. but if you are like me vi is a struggle. so "gksudo gedit" will bring up a familiar notepad with root priveledges.02:28
bestadvocateBooZee: the Gaim developer was recently hired by google, and he is busy integrating the Google instant messanger's Video capacity into Gaim, so, more features to come :)02:28
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BooZeeapokryphos:  is aMSN usable for icq and aim too?02:28
apokryphosMenZa`: you can of course run kde apps in GNOME just fine02:28
apokryphosBooZee: it is02:28
MenZa`Beats me. Linux noob. just their website says "The KDE IM"02:28
MenZa`:P02:28
apokryphosBooZee: as in, not usable I mean, sorry02:29
MenZa`but okay :D02:29
Efils_Godnow its saying could not open resource for writing02:29
apokryphosBooZee: it only handles the msn protocol02:29
amitaykwickedpuppy: Where can I type it? I need a sort of a terminal or something to write it down...02:29
apokryphosMenZa`: yes, it's KDE's IM. But *all* KDE apps can be run in GNOME02:29
wickedpuppyamitayk, yes .. in a terminal02:29
MenZa`Yep, okay :)02:29
apokryphosproviding you have the necessary depends02:29
amitaykwickedpuppy: And how do I open one?02:29
BooZeeapokryphos:  and kopete can handle more protocols?02:29
waimeapokryphos: Is the same true the other way around - Gnome apps on KDE I mean02:29
wickedpuppyamitayk, you going to be using terminal often in linux so pls get used to it... accessories ->terminal02:30
apokryphosBooZee: many, yes02:30
[matrim] linxeh, thanks, I think I got it fixed now02:30
apokryphos!tell BooZee about kopete02:30
apokryphoswaime: indeed02:30
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BooZeenice... 10x02:30
waimeapokryphos: Sweet!02:30
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amitaykwickedpuppy: I know that already, but I didn't know how to open one. I've worked with neither a unix-like program nor Linux dist.02:31
iiiearsamitayk - drag and drop it to one of the taskbars it will stick there. - kinda handy actually.02:31
bestadvocateanyone have any idea on where/how I can find out why my laptop is crashing hard?02:31
wickedpuppyamitayk, i just told ya... accessories-> terminal02:31
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waimeto change from ubuntu to kubuntu (or the other way around) Is it enough to just go through synaptic to get the kubuntu-desktop or the ubuntu-desktop?02:32
jtan325has anyone gotten dual-head to work?02:32
apokryphoswaime: yes02:32
Efils_Godfor gods sake why won't my audio work02:32
Efils_Godis ther any faqs for it?02:33
waimeamitayk: Or right-click the desktop and click 'Open Terminal'02:33
Revellionjtan325: dual-head in what context? :)02:33
Murrlinmy top toolbar is stuck on the right or left. how do I move it back to the top?02:33
Hendrichello all02:33
apokryphos!tell Efils_God about sound02:33
jtan325Revellion, dual-head with a laptop and a second lcd monitor?02:33
Revellionshould work02:33
waimeMurrlin: right click it and click on properties. It should give you the option to do so02:33
Revellionmost laptops i've seen only have one display pipeline02:34
waimeapokryphos: thanks .02:34
jtan325yea i have twinview working02:34
Revellionso there's a choice between Laptop TFT or the external monitor :\02:34
jtan325but dual-head...02:34
Revellionjtan325: nvidia?02:34
jtan325yea02:34
Revellionjtan325: should be easy02:34
amitaykiiiears: it's seems I don't have the priv. as I thougth, or I writed something wrong.02:34
jtan325i know, i thought so02:34
Revellionto just use tvinview and/or xinerama02:34
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jtan325i've followed the instruction02:34
bobi__hi everybody02:34
bestadvocatehas anyone else had problems with Synapic running while hard crashes for all of Ubuntu have taken place?02:34
jtan325what's the difference between xinerama and dual-head?02:34
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jtan325or is xinerama = dual-head?02:34
Revellionjtan325: Twinview is Nvidia's own version of Xinerama02:35
bestadvocatehi bobi__02:35
jtan325nvidia's instructions doesn't mention xinerama at all02:35
RevellionXinerama is the official way the Xserver handles dual/triple/your num-headsw02:35
Revellion*heads02:35
waimeanother one: If you have both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop, how do you change between the two? Or are they mutually exclusive?02:35
jtan325yea so i have twinview working...02:35
jtan325where i can drag windows between screens02:35
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Revellionjtan325: Clone or Extended?02:35
Efils_GodTHANK YOU02:35
jtan325extended02:35
Efils_Godit works02:35
Revellionjtan325: ah02:35
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Revellionjtan325: and you desire?02:35
Murrlinwaime: I would but the apps icons are huge and taking up all the space on the panel02:35
bobi__I'm quite new to ubuntu and am looking for a friendly HTML editor and a FTP client to maintain my website. Which do you recommend?02:35
jtan325uhhh 'separate screens'02:36
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Efils_Godwas the fact i had flash using the sound :/02:36
Revellionjtan325: ah02:36
jtan325that's what i thought dual-head meant02:36
Revellionlike :0.0 and :0.1 ?02:36
Murrlinwaime: hold-dragging it only moved it to the right or left02:36
bestadvocatealas i am asking unpopular questions02:36
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Revelliontwo entirely seperate desktops?02:36
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jtan325yes, i think02:37
spiral_shellHi, where are all the fonts stored on ubuntu?  (if it is the same as general linux, I still dont know!)02:37
jtan325here's my xorg02:37
Revellionjtan325: dcc it my way02:37
iiiearsbobi - check out mozilla's NVU editor. - full featured wysiwyg02:37
Revellionand i'll fix it up for ya02:37
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jtan325http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/359602:37
Revellionor use pastebin..02:37
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jtan325it seems consistent with nvidia's instructions, as well as other people's xorg's i've found on google02:38
bestadvocatebobi__ i would seccond iiiears motion02:38
Revellionjtan325: it seems in order02:38
jtan325hmmm yea02:38
Revellionalso i don't see TwinView activated at all :|02:38
jtan325well right now i am using twinview02:39
jtan325i thought dual-head was independent of twinview02:39
waimeMurrlin: there's usually enough space if you right-click enough times or right at the edges (so top and bottom in your case)... otherwise I'm sure there's a config file somewhere that lets you hard-code it, but I don't know where... sory :(02:39
jtan325so i have two xorg's02:39
jtan325the problem i get when i use the dual-head xorg02:39
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Revellionjtan325: it depends. that config you have in the pastebin02:39
Murrlinwell I had to delete two of the app icons02:39
Revellionshould theoretically give 2 X screens02:39
Murrlinit's back now. *curse*02:39
Revellion:0.0 and :0.102:39
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jtan325yea02:39
jtan325do i have to do anything else?02:39
jtan325the problem i'm getting is that02:39
Revellionhmm02:39
jtan325gdm starts up, but the login screen doesn't appear...02:39
jtan325my laptop screen and my external monitor are both black02:40
Murrlinmy next problem is how do I determine why I can't ping from one machine to the other? (only two, connected by crossover cable)02:40
jtan325and my external monitor appears to not be receiving input...02:40
BluematAnyone know of an text editor that has FTP built in??02:40
Bluematbesides emacs..02:40
jtan325the little green light on the power button goes to orange, if that makes any sense02:40
jtan325but02:40
jtan325i can see my cursor02:40
jtan325and i can type my login and password, it logs in02:40
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tom__one more thing guys how do i make it so i have permanent access to my windows documents folder i keep on having to go to system disks and browsing from there02:40
jtan325but nothing shows still02:40
jtan325except my cursor02:40
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pirateIs Ubuntuforums down? Or is it on my side?02:41
jtan325and my cursor can only move within the laptop screen's bounds02:41
jtan325pirate, i think it's down02:41
jtan325Revellion, does that make any sense?02:41
Revellionjtan325: it makes sense yup02:41
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iiiearstom__ drag and drop your "My Documents" folder to the windows "Shared Documents" folder???02:41
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Revellionjtan325: that has a simple reason02:42
Revellionthe two screens are then seperate02:42
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bestadvocatehello,  has anyone here have an idea were I might find help for a sudden and violent crashing that happens on my laptop while running the stable version of breezy?02:42
Revellionyou could use a ugly hack to get between the two screens02:42
Revelliongonna see if i can find it02:42
jtan325uhhh02:42
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dcardamoDoes anyone know how to configure wpa_supplicant to connect to WEP networks using a WEP password?  I've only seen examples where it uses wep keys.02:42
sorush20hi.. guys..02:42
amitaykiiiears: I've successed to open the correct file (hopefully), but I don't know what to do next.02:42
jtan325so how would one get the cursor from one screen to the other?02:42
tom__ill try that but if that works i shouldn't be able to access it through the systems disk? Or does ubuntu hack the folder to access it?02:42
waimetom__: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows02:42
sorush20how you doing.. so there are really no viruses for linux at all..02:42
cionimbaHi!02:42
jtan325and i can live without an ugly hack, i'd rather get something to actually show up first :-)02:43
bestadvocateHi, cionimba02:43
iiiearsamitayk - congrats. - a bit intimidating at first but you'll do fine.02:43
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Revellionjtan325: there's a tool i remember using02:43
Revellionjtan325: that warps the pointer over to the other screen02:43
tom__aha thanks02:43
qiHEWSfiwohoo it only takes 9 hours for ubuntu live torrent to complete on a T1 .. blllaaaah02:43
jtan325hrmmmm02:43
qiHEWSfii'm almost done02:44
Revellionjtan325: then there's also... you could use Synergy to allow such behaviour :\02:44
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cionimbaDoes anybody of you know how to configure LTSP sound on Ubuntu Breezy?02:44
Revellionjtan325: so that if your pointer goes past the right-side of the Laptop screen it warps to the other screen02:44
jtan325well i can live with twinview02:44
amitaykiiiears: There is a saying in Hebrew: "Maybe yes, a maybe not..."02:44
amitaykiiiears: There is a saying in Hebrew: "Maybe yes, and maybe not..."02:44
jtan325it'd be nice if i could set the default screen though02:44
jtan325in twinview02:44
Revellionjtan325: hmm?02:44
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Revellionjtan325: the "RightOf" "LeftOf" decides that :\02:44
iiiearsamitayk - check out the examples in these links. - but make sure you back up the original file and check your changes to the working file at least twice before you reboot.02:44
iiiears!grub02:45
ubotuI heard grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting02:45
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Revellionjtan325: the screen that is to the left sort of becomes the default screenw02:45
waimeamitayk: "what is sure, is that maybe" is the end of that saying I believe ;)02:45
Revellionor more like02:45
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qiHEWSfiYeah and if that sound expert could help me with the ALSA settings on my aureon fun .. do need to reboot to change the mic line mode from input to center/pfe output02:45
RevellionScreen 0 is the default02:45
qiHEWSfido you know how to recycle the alsa driver and related systems..?02:45
jtan325yea i'd like to change that02:45
Enliteubuntuforums.org down :(02:45
bestadvocatewell, sorry if my repeated questions sounded like spam everyone, I shall bid you farewell.02:45
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jtan325i'd like my laptop monitor to be my default screen02:45
jtan325and it's on the right of my external monitor02:46
Belutzjdub, you around?02:46
jtan325kind of anti-traditional setup02:46
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Ngjtan325: so set the external monitor as screen 1 and leftof screen 002:46
jtan325but that's the space constraint my small desk imposed :-)02:46
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jtan325hmmm Ng?02:46
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Tiranhi is there an apt-get isntall command for freenx install?02:46
[matrim] where to I turn of the "always save settings on ogout"?02:47
jtan325i'm not sure how to do that...02:47
jtan325ut02:47
Tiranany recommened FAQs?02:47
Ngjtan325: you should really read the twinview docs then :)02:47
apokryphos!tell Tiran about freenx02:47
jtan325http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/359702:47
Goanproblem:02:47
Goanubuntu 5.1002:47
Goanget mozilla flash working.02:47
Goanquestion:02:47
Goanwhat reprository, what package?02:47
jtan325that's my xorg with twinview02:47
RevellionGoan: Universe02:47
apokryphos!tell Goan about enter02:47
apokryphosRevellion: multiverse02:47
Revellionouch02:47
Revellionmy bad :\02:47
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apokryphosGoan: flashplayer-mozilla02:47
apokryphosthere's also a flash-nonfree (or something), but haven't tried that02:48
Revellionaah, indeed multiverse02:48
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Revellionshould've checked my apt first :)02:48
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Ngjtan325: your TwinViewOrientation entry is wrong by the looks of it, it should be something like "CRT-1 LeftOf CRT-0", but like I said, you should read the twinview docs02:48
jtan325hmm i have an idea of how to do it02:48
jtan325one question:02:48
jtan325to set my laptop screen as 0, and the other as 1?02:48
apokryphosRevellion: I normally just deduce what it would be considering the different components (/msg ubotu components)02:48
Goanmultiverse means what?02:49
jtan325i do that in the Section "ServerLayout"?02:49
jtan325i.e. Screen 0 "LaptopScreen"02:49
Enlitecan anyone get to ubuntuforums.org?02:49
amitaykiiiears: I should write 3 in the default option for choosing the forth booting option. Am I correct?02:49
Ngjtan325: I have no idea, I have an nvidia card with two monitor outputs, so I swap Screen 0 and Screen 1 with monitor cables ;)02:49
jtan325Screen 1 "ExternalScreen"?02:49
apokryphosEnlite: it's probably down; #ubuntuforums for clarification02:49
jtan325hmm ok02:49
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amitaykwaime: Well, it's another saying.02:49
apokryphosGoan: /msg ubotu components    and /msg ubotu repositories02:49
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iiiearsamitayk - i have posted my file is -not- dual boot but then more examples can't be bad right? - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/40518802:50
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falkeplz info about free nx..?infos?02:50
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psycodeI'm trying to ssh into an ubuntu system, and login in as root. but what should i enter as the password to root ? (the password of sudo isn't the password of root..)02:50
apokryphos!freenx02:50
ubotuI guess freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX02:50
falke!freenx02:51
falkethx02:51
iiiears!ssh02:51
ubotussh is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto02:51
iiiears!scp02:51
ubotuiiiears: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about02:51
waime!ssh02:51
apokryphosGuys, investigate with ubotu in /msg02:51
waime!freenx02:51
ubotusomebody said freenx was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX02:51
qiHEWSfido i need to reboot for alsa device micinline mode change to catch up?02:51
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iiiearsapok, - psycode needed the info.02:52
hexman4hey.. how does one reconfigure their login script?02:52
waimesorry all02:52
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Goanhave i got it correctly... ubotu is some kind of software robot...02:52
waimeanyway, thanks for the help. Ciao!02:52
aftertafgoan he s a bot02:52
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aftertafirc blootbot02:53
Goanthnx.02:53
hexman4hey.. how does one reconfigure their login script?02:53
Goanthanx for warning me about asking 3 questions in a row, but....02:53
Goannobody answers the questions anyway...02:53
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hexman4cause when i start up my machine, it looks weird, and says theres an invalid command on my loginscript02:54
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aftertafhexman4:  does it say which one? is it a standalone pc?02:54
hexman4this is a standalone pc02:54
BluematAnyone know of an text editor that has FTP built in??02:54
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Goando you say, that if I have this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse02:54
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sjmurdochBluemat: Emacs has ange-ftp mode02:54
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Goanin my /etc/apt/sources.lst then I can get mozilla-flashplayer02:55
hexman4aftertaf: i thought it would be like dpkg-reconfigure or something....02:55
hexman4but i dont know what to give it02:55
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apokryphosGoan: yes, follow the instructions for adding the repository02:55
qiHEWSfiyou should have main restricted universe multiverse . unless you want everything you get to be open-source have main universe02:55
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Bluematsjmurdoch, besides emacs..02:56
qiHEWSfireally no need to not use the one mentioned first02:56
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hexman4aftertaf: any ideas?02:57
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aftertafhexman4:  hard to say. we ned to know the error message to know what the remey can be.02:58
Amaranthare the forums down for anyone else?02:58
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henryson_how do i restart gstreamer?02:58
thoreauputicAmaranth: smeg is working nicely in breezy - any plans to make browsing for icons more visual? At the moment it's kind of hard to see what you're getting...02:59
aftertafAmaranth:  which ones?02:59
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BluematAnyone know of an text editor that has FTP built in besides emacs?02:59
Amaranththoreauputic: Done.02:59
pirateI built a legacy nvidia kernel and installed the image, but the load ain't finding the kernel ... I built this with a custom kernel, but I've recently switched to installing kernels the Debian way... What am I missing? Final step to make the module?02:59
andreas__what is the default apache2 www root? can't seem to find in02:59
andreas__it02:59
Amaranthaftertaf: ubuntuforums.org02:59
pirates/load/loader02:59
thoreauputicAmaranth: really? New debs or source?02:59
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iiiearsandreas - httdocs?03:00
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iiiearsandreas - httdocs?03:00
andreas__yes03:00
Amaranththoreauputic: it's a beta03:00
andreas__where is it03:00
pirateI would look around... but ubuntuforms is my saviour... and it's down03:00
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adam_rwould anyone know why when i visit flahs pages my firefox crahses a few keyframes into the movie,03:01
thoreauputicAmaranth: aha - I'll be interested to see it :)03:01
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iiiearsandreas - ok. - lol now i am lost too. httdocs is root.03:01
aftertafAmaranth:  would seem so...03:01
Swearingenubotu: universal?03:02
ubotuI haven't a clue, Swearingen03:02
andreas__where is the htdocs forlder. The folder to put the html files in03:02
adam_rin var/www03:02
hexman4aftertaf: check pm03:02
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aftertafgotcha hexman4  ;)03:02
andreas__I thought is was /var/www03:03
adam_ryeah sorryu /var/www03:03
qiHEWSfiif you want something other then nvidia defaults you could check out omega drivers for linux driver sets : http://www.omegadrivers.net/ . dont know if they have linux drivers, but the bios settings can improve your framerates also in ubuntu03:03
PainKillercould be in your homedir andreas__03:03
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PainKiller/home/you/htdocs ?03:03
Amaranththoreauputic: http://www.realistanew.com/images/alacarte/icons.png03:04
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Stormx2I'm creating a Internet Explorer entry in the GNOME menu, what command should i use. At the moment I have wine /home/barney/.wine/dosdevices/c%3A/windows/iexplore.exe - this does nothing03:04
thoreauputicAmaranth: thank you !03:04
Amaranththoreauputic: If you want to see more join #menueditor03:04
pirateThe NV module & GLX were both working when I installed from source (and nvidia-glx-legacy), but when I rebooted they ceased.03:04
andreas__can't be /var/www becouse it contain stuff. Whan I browse my server it dont show anything03:04
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pirateSo hopefully building the deb will sort it out03:04
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adam_rie - ewww03:05
Stormx2I know03:05
hexman4aftertaf: check pm03:05
Stormx2but i need it for web developing03:05
PainKillerwebdevvers03:05
hanspirate, did you also install glx-legacy?03:05
PainKillerneed it03:05
thoreauputicAmaranth: maybe tomorrow - it's late here so I'll be gone in a few03:05
PainKillerindeed03:05
adam_rmay i ask why you need ie in linux? not questioning just asking03:05
Amaranththoreauputic: ok03:05
thoreauputicAmaranth: thanks for the link :)03:05
Stormx2Web Developing03:05
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adam_ri see03:05
Stormx2It will be a great world when everyone uses Firefox, but untill then I need to see what it looks like in IE03:05
Stormx2I have it installed and I can run it in terminal with that command03:06
Stormx2wine /home/barney/.wine/dosdevices/c%3A/windows/iexplore.exe03:06
pirateOmg. This whole thing is wobbly now.03:06
PainKillerin Winxp, I still use an IE-based browser - Maxthon03:06
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PainKillera lot of sites don't show well in firefox03:06
Stormx2in windows i Use K-Meleon03:06
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Stormx2No but really03:06
Stormx2what would be the command.03:06
thoreauputicAmaranth: just had a look at the screenshot - looks cool :)03:07
PainKilleri have no clue, Stormx2, sorry03:07
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piratehans, still - nvidia.ko is non-existant03:07
hansok03:07
Stormx2Nevermind, I have it now.03:07
PainKillerStormx2: you checked wine parameters in console?03:07
Stormx2Yes. Turns out the character escaping messed it up03:07
Stormx2Its working fine now03:08
Stormx2:) Thanks anyway03:08
PainKillercool03:08
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pirateWhat's the make-kpkg equiv. for make modules modules_install ?03:08
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pepperhallo03:08
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_native_man make-kpkg03:09
pirateFair enough =)03:09
taihoQuestion: During Boot-up after installing the linux-image-2.6.10.5-686 and booting it up my system said something about VFS: No Ext3. I use a ReiserFS system for my /03:09
pepperi can.t instal gaim 1.1503:09
pirateapt-get install man... *twiddle thumbs*03:09
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_native_or the module-assistant tool03:09
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TriKster-Abacusoops03:09
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pepperwhere i can find it03:09
pirateThe module-ASSistant tool won't build the legacy... at least I don't know how to make it build the legacy...03:09
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Belutzpepper, sudo apt-get gaim03:10
_native_lol03:10
Belutzpepper, sudo apt-get install gaim03:10
qiHEWSfiwhat do you know of the sdl error can't set palette that dosbox gives me03:10
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peppertnx i go try it03:10
qiHEWSfii just need to run two stupid dos programs03:10
qiHEWSfiand dosbox won't start03:10
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qiHEWSfiwell, i could get dos 7.10 and have a real dos03:11
qiHEWSfimaybe will do that03:11
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iiiearsfreedos?03:11
thrushtaiho: I get same message and use reiser never really looked into it...03:11
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taihothrush, it works fine for you though? If so I am ok :P03:12
qiHEWSfihttp://www.hilf-los.de/1dlmanager/download.php?id=86 figure the german page and get a enhanced true dos enviroment from a bootable cd03:12
Morrowyndamnit, my samba server cant be found on the workgroup :-/03:12
thrushtaiho: fine for about 6mo ;)03:12
hexman4hey.. how does one reconfigure their gdm.conf?03:12
taihothrush, thanks. Then I can breath normally :P03:12
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peppersorry i can not find it03:13
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iiiearshexman - is your display resolution not set up right?03:13
caonexFor my laptop i am forced to use vga=0 or vga=771 in order for ubuntu to finish loading. With or without the parameters, i am unable to see the splash loading screen. Is there a way to make ubuntu detect the monitor and not have to use vga and make it accept or work with vesafb?03:13
ncpdoes ubuntu support mounting of cue/bin files?03:13
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BluematAnyone know of an text editor that has FTP built in besides emacs?03:14
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iiiearsncp - check out sourceforge. - there is a project there have to apologize for not remembering it's title.03:14
thrushncp: i could be wrong i thing you need to convert to iso03:14
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hexman4iiiears: no.. it just gives me an error msg when i try to login03:14
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peppersorry i find not the new gaim 1.1.503:14
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iiiearshexman4, - what does the error say?03:15
pepperi can not instal 1.1.503:15
ncpwell theres is software to kde that can, so there should be one for gnome to03:15
wickedpuppypepper, gaim is .. 1.5 on my ubuntu03:15
wickedpuppywhy you want 1.5 ?03:15
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peppertnx03:15
wickedpuppyi mean 1.1.503:15
qiHEWSfiif you have an older motherboard with ac'97 you will get full audio support for all games..03:16
pepperbut i understand noting from this programm unbunto03:16
adam_rmay i ask why you need ie in linux? not questioning just asking03:16
qiHEWSfiwithout ANY fighting with your retrogames03:16
adam_rwould anyone know why when i visit flahs pages my firefox crahses a few keyframes into the movie,03:16
pepperi have the 1.1.403:16
hexman4iiiears: check pm03:16
qiHEWSfigrub can boot it03:16
wickedpuppypepper, you got 1.1.4 ?03:16
pepperyes en wil the 1.1.503:16
wickedpuppypepper, can you type this ? gaim -v03:16
pepperno03:16
wickedpuppyshow me the output03:16
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wickedpuppygaim 1.1.* should be very old now03:17
pepperoke03:17
wickedpuppypls update03:17
iiiearshexman4 - sry, i haven't seen that before.03:17
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pepperi can not update03:17
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pepperi try now fot 3 days for the new wan03:17
wickedpuppypepper, are you using ubuntu ?03:17
careccawhat package do i need to install to get dh_testdir ?03:17
pepperyes  i believe03:17
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wickedpuppypepper, sudo apt-get update03:18
pepperoke tnx03:18
pepperi try it now03:18
hexman4ok.. well when i upgraded to breezy it asked should i change it or keep the new one, so me being an idiot, kept the old one.. i think that might be the prob03:18
ccookecarecca: debhelper (dpkg -S dh_testdir)03:18
hexman4iiiears: check a few lines up03:19
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thrushncp: you could always apt-get whatever u use in kde..03:19
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careccaccooke: it could not be found03:19
_native_when will hardened ubuntu tools, packs, etc.. be included in the main repos03:19
_native_so i dont have to grab and build everything my self all the time03:20
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taihoNTFS Mount was this and what addition? /dev/hdb1 /media/windows ro,user,auto, 0 003:20
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careccaERROR: SDL_GL_LoadLibrary libGL.so.1 failed: No dynamic GL support in video driver03:21
taihoNTFS Mount was this and what addition? /dev/hdb1 /media/windows ntfs ro,user,auto, 0 003:21
henryson_is there a nice friendly gui for setting up apache?03:21
wickedpuppy_native_, hardened ubuntu tools ?? can name one ?03:21
erikstiHey .. anyone know of a good tool to generate UML from C++ code?03:21
careccai get that when i try to run quake4 anon know what might be the problem ?03:21
wickedpuppyhenryson_, webmin03:21
_native_vsecurity, selinux, ssp, pax, blah.....03:22
qiHEWSfihey you dont need to fight with dos emulators and virtual enviroments , dos 7.10 is free and has moderate support for audio devices. mainly the ac'97 integrated chip in many middle-age'd pc's gives you full audio support and with the univbe drivers for your wideo carrd you will have TOTAL support for DOS games! get the bootable install disk http://www.hilf-los.de/1dlmanager/download.php?id=8603:22
henryson_isn't that a webserver in itself?03:22
thrushtaiho: u looking for umask=0000 ?03:22
Franzfranzhi all03:22
wickedpuppyhenryson_, webmin is not web server03:22
taihothread, thanks once again :)03:22
wickedpuppyhenryson_, www.webmin.org03:22
qiHEWSfithat's a friendly advice03:22
Stormx2guys, what is the difference between BMP and XMMS?03:22
taihothrush, but I have seen people use umask=000203:22
wickedpuppyStormx2, xmms is audio player ... bmp is ... no idea what03:23
Stormx2they look like the same kinda thing03:23
FranzfranzAnyone uses the Jack Connection Kit with ALSA ?03:23
Stormx2BMP = Bit Music player03:23
thrushtaiho: for my normal user i use either 0000 or 0100 dont know if that would be same for you03:23
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wickedpuppyStormx2, can bmp use gstreamer codec ?03:23
Stormx2Beep music player03:23
Stormx2actually03:23
Stormx2Not sure.03:23
Stormx2XMMS has MPEG-3 support built-in03:24
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Stormx2:-\03:24
Bronesshi guyz!!! =)03:24
wickedpuppyStormx2, not built in ...03:24
Stormx2well03:24
qiHEWSfithat dos 7.10 enviroment supports fat32 too03:24
taihothrush, I used umask=0002 now and it works fine. Don't know if it might has to do with experimental write drivers or something...03:24
Stormx2it was the first thing I installed when i installed breezy yesterday03:24
Stormx2and it played MP3s straight off.03:24
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wickedpuppyStormx2, you must have installed gstreamer as well03:25
taihoIs there any drivers for NTFS that allows rw, found some for mandrake a long time ago that worked.03:25
Stormx2wickedpuppy: No i didn't. And I still havn't03:25
wickedpuppythats the codec that enables xmms to play mp3 ...03:25
wickedpuppyStormx2, then you are not using ubuntu03:25
Stormx2wickedpuppy: Thats why I can't play MP3s on totem.03:25
qiHEWSfiwell in my experience, i don't want to have a blank screen in wine and a sdl error for running a program to write an image to your floppy drive! not really a good first touch on the dosbox and wine emulation..03:25
wickedpuppy!restrictedformats03:25
uboturumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'03:25
johnmtaiho: FUSE has an ntfs module which supports it via libntfs+xattr. claims to work03:25
Bronesshow do run programs that need active x in linux? =)03:25
wickedpuppygo check that page03:25
Stormx2wickedpuppy: I'm not stupid you idiot. I know its a restricted format. Try it for yourself.03:25
Bronesshow do you run programs that need active x in linux? =)03:25
ncpthrush, well i use gnome :( but found bchunk that could do the job03:26
johnmBroness: wine or cedega03:26
wickedpuppymp3 is by default not enabled in ubuntu03:26
Stormx2Broness: I don't think you can03:26
Stormx2Broness: it won't work in WINE for me.03:26
taihojohnm, do they work for Ubuntu?03:26
aftertaftaiho:  there is captive too...03:26
johnmtaiho: FUSE is a 2.6 kernel module. if you ahve the fuse userland tools, it will work on any 2.6 kernel.03:26
wickedpuppyStormx2, i been using ubuntu for 1+ years ... you ?03:26
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qiHEWSfiso if you have ac'97 and download a univbe dos mode universal video driver that's free and works on almost any cards giving full svga support for dos, that is the perfect dos platform after you get http://www.hilf-los.de/1dlmanager/download.php?id=8603:26
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waimeforgot to say - UBUNTUFORUMS IS UP, it's the DNS that's down.03:27
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waimeFLeiXiuSThe domain server is down for the forums. Please use : http://64.21.33.9 while we resolve the problem.03:27
taihoThanks for the help. I'll wait untill there is a good support for NTFS under linux.03:27
PainKillertaiho: you running dual boot?03:28
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qiHEWSfiyou can share your dos 7.10 fat32 partition with ubuntu for example..03:28
waimetaiho: You want to be reading from or writing to NTFS?03:28
taihoPainKiller, yes, I am running dual boot with a NTFS drive to be able to use large files on windows03:28
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punkieI need to install the package 855resolution because i have a Intel graphic-chip03:28
qiHEWSfii plan on installing permanent on my machine ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, opensuse, openbsd and dos 7.10 .. talk about good support with no fuzz03:28
johnmtaiho: it's best if you can to make a new vfat partition03:29
taihowaime, I am already reading from and it would be fun to be able to write to NTFS. But I'll just boot into windows instead.03:29
qiHEWSfiand separate ubuntu platforms for different kind of jobs03:29
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johnmqiHEWSfi: seems like such a pointless task03:29
PainKillertaiho: i use another server in my network that uses samba, for intermediate storage03:29
UpShi guys, does ubuntuforums working now?03:29
punkiebut apt-get doesn't find the package03:29
_root_hello03:29
qiHEWSfithink i will use ubuntu for common use, kubuntu for graphics, multimedia, games, opensuse for programming, openbsd for secure connections and dos 7.10 for legacy games which really still rock and are free!03:29
PainKillerthats how I get files from ubuntu to my ntfs drives03:30
punkiedoes someone know the right servers to get it03:30
qiHEWSficheck out www.the-underdogs.org and tell me you dont need a dos platform03:30
PainKilleri can't read ext2 in winxp03:30
waimetaiho: Right you are! Good luck with writing to it tho :S It's already a thrill to write to NTFS- Like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get :P03:30
UpSit was a nice topic there how to install and tweak microsoft fonts on ububtu...03:30
johnmqiHEWSfi: Im quite happy with something like freedos + qemu/vmware03:30
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taihoPainKiller, if you use Totalcommander there is a plugin to read ext2/3 on their homepage03:30
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Bronesswhat is cedega?03:30
PainKillerok taiho, thanks, i'll look into that03:30
Bronesshow do i download it for ubuntu?03:31
qiHEWSfiand my upcoming net-studies in a finnish lukio will be done with edubuntu which will greatly be enhanced in the next apt-get dist-upgrade :)03:31
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taihowaime, yes, I know. I'll just boot to windows when I need to write to the NTFS disk03:31
PainKillertaiho: does that plugin write to ext2/3 ?03:31
johnmBroness: like wine, but forked and geared more towards gamers. check out cedega on the web03:31
_root_doubt regarding nscd!!03:31
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taihoPainKiller, I use it myself when in windows and it works like a charm. I believe it can write to it.03:31
PainKillercool03:31
johnmqiHEWSfi: and why not use a normal ubuntu install? :)03:31
qiHEWSfitaiho i think ntfs is dead for a linux user. fat32 is the compatible system for simple sharing, ntfs is the windowz killer which is sort of a prison for your data03:31
derchilligephilhi!03:31
Bronessdoes cedega have a service for free or for a fee? =)03:32
qiHEWSfijohm because i wanna have that system on my machine03:32
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derchilligephilwhat should i use for a graphic lib?03:32
wickedpuppyBroness, google for cedega ...03:32
johnmqiHEWSfi: then install it.03:32
qiHEWSfiand after i install another03:32
derchilligephilGTK. Motif03:32
waimePainKiller: Use explore2fs03:32
waimeBroness: it's $3 per month03:32
derchilligephilwhat is recommened03:32
taihoMy system doesn't seem to have full support for ALSA installed. What are the files needed to install correctly?03:32
derchilligephilGTK ?03:32
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UpSHi All! Can anybody help me?03:32
wickedpuppyderchilligephil, you forgot qt ?03:32
_root_after starting service nscd, whenever i try to add password for a new user then it fails.. how can i add the password to the nscd cache?03:33
Swearingenhttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'03:33
derchilligephili want to download azureus03:33
derchilligephil:)03:33
Swearingenanyone seeing that?03:33
derchilligephiland there is GTK and motif03:33
qiHEWSfijohm hd i can just divide the whole system with insert network and hd anylysis disc called 'insert'03:33
wickedpuppyderchilligephil, i was told motif azureus is faster ...03:33
manuvcubeUpS: just ask03:33
derchilligephilah k03:33
wickedpuppybut i use gtk version and its fine :P03:33
qiHEWSfijohm just run ubuntu install in expert mode and reinstall grub afterwards03:33
derchilligephili have severall problems setting up azureus03:33
wickedpuppyderchilligephil, #azureus-users03:33
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johnmqiHEWSfi: i still dont see the pointy personally. one install is more than capable of doing all that itself. I think what would be a better use of time would be to learn how :)03:33
derchilligephilon this server?03:34
wickedpuppyyup03:34
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derchilligephilnice03:34
derchilligephilthx03:34
johnmqiHEWSfi: of course, whatever you want to do really.03:34
wickedpuppynp :P03:34
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_root_johnm: can u answer my question ?03:34
punkiedoes any one know a apt-get server to download 855resolution?03:34
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johnm_root_: not got a clue im afraid.03:34
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qiHEWSfijohnm points: major wisdom in linux, which is not on just debian but the best of the best, good support for anything you need, and let alone the handyness of just booting to your os which suits your work. no interruptions sort of03:35
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UpSI need a nice doco how to setup ms core fonts on ubuntu and how to make fonts looks like in windows. i think ububtu has bytecode interpreter switched "on" in freetype so only some config tweaks needs to be done as I think....anybody can help or point to the link?03:35
UpSit was a topic on ububtuforums.org but the forum looks like in down now...03:36
_root_johnm: when running nscd and a package adds a user, the script will fail03:36
_root_(nscd caches old passwd table):03:36
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johnmqiHEWSfi: that made no real sense.. but I think if what you're saying is using more than just debian will help you... then you're probably right. Debian imo isn't the most ideal of development platforms but a single OS (linux especially since I know it well enough to comment) is more than capable of doing all that without needing multiple installations03:36
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qiHEWSfijohnm the platforms are afterwards specialized to fit your needs when doing the spesific job, and frankly, the opensuse is itself the perfect programming platform03:36
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qiHEWSfijohnm and your fat32 with dos 7.10 contains every legacy game and they _work_ , then kubuntu for some hc network fps03:37
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manuvcubeups: The domain server is down for the forums. Please use : http://64.21.33.9 while we resolve the problem.03:37
johnmqiHEWSfi: Well I'd ask why you didnt think about vmware? then I'd ask why you can't install the dev libs/tools on ubuntu to give you the same functionality, then I'd ask why you can't have everything you need on a single install :)03:38
[matrim] hey, is there a program to monitor SSH connections?03:38
johnmqiHEWSfi: and you can install dos 7.10 on vmware, without needing to reboot.03:38
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qiHEWSfijohnm isnt't the bios boot cd system the thing that is hardware-made to work for that03:39
UpSmanuvcube, thanks for this! :)03:39
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manuvcubeuw03:39
andrishello...03:39
qiHEWSfijohnm you can't really emulate everything and expect everything to work03:39
johnmqiHEWSfi: a bios boot cd system? I have no idea what one of them are ;)03:39
_root_johnm: hope you got it03:39
johnmqiHEWSfi: vmware doesn't emulate.03:40
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johnmqiHEWSfi: vmware, xen etc are virtualised servers, so they are totallyt different.03:40
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johnmqiHEWSfi: it's the same as running it on real hardware, except the hardware isn't neccessarily real.03:40
_root_anybody there to answer my question ?03:40
qiHEWSfijohnm ill check out wmwave03:40
Bronessjohnm: is there anyway to "bypass" active x in ubuntu?03:40
[matrim] i need program that shows who's connected to me via ssh. any tips?03:40
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andrisi'm linux newbie... how to change the monitor refresh rate??03:41
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qiHEWSfijohnm do you know of the official website?03:41
johnmBroness: not really no. activex is a component of a windows app-design. what is asking you about activex?03:41
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BooZeehello, help needed - i've canceled the screen saver and now the monitor isn't shutting down after a while of idle.03:42
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johnmqiHEWSfi: vmware.com? vmware is actually pay-to-use stuff, although it is very good. There are linux alternatives like qemu, which is good for DOS but not very sophisticated.03:42
borisyeltsinso I've got a source deb that I'm trying to build and I have libmp4v2 and libmp4v2-dev installed, and yet it still won't build with support for mp4v2. how do I point the configure script to the mp4v2 stuff?03:42
qiHEWSfijohnm so you see? you have to pay for the good, but since dos 7.10 is community developed, isn't that what this whole thing is about03:43
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qiHEWSfijohnm i just wish they would have continued on 7.1003:43
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Bronessjohnm: desperately need to install some games. i'm operating an internet shop. I have successfully downloaded some online games and wine but i could not install the games. it keeps asking for Active X. and when i load Active X it could not find the right directory.03:43
creuwzyi'm linux newbie... how to change the monitor refresh rate??03:44
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brennerBooZee: checked the advanced tab in screensaver options?03:44
brennerubotu: tell creuwzy about fixres03:44
qiHEWSfijohnm and the bios boot cd system is the hardware-standardized launcher for bootable cd's like ubuntu install and dos 7.10 . a virtual or emulated prog does not sound good for os installation03:45
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johnmBroness: you're trying to run then trhough wine yes? tbh, wine isn't perfect. The best thing is maybe to give cedega a quick try after checking the online games database thing.03:45
steigweiswer hat erfahrungen mit firefox 1.5? is der endlich mal schneller gewoirden?03:45
brennercreuwzy: that link is for resolution, but the monitor rates thing is what you need and is described there as well03:45
qiHEWSfijohnm would like to continue on this but now for a 5 min break03:45
johnmqiHEWSfi: Well you seem tyo know what you want to do, and no amount of suggestions will change that. However im happy to talk about it03:45
steigweiswho uses new firefox 1.5? has it become faster?03:45
brenner1.5 is new?03:46
wickedpuppysteigweis, who has firefox 1.5 ?03:46
creuwzythanx very much...03:46
BooZeebrenner:  yes, and the power managment is working03:46
steigweiswickedpuppy: thats my question03:46
[matrim] is there a good ssh connections monitor?03:46
wickedpuppysteigweis, i got 1.0.703:47
brennerBooZee: working == enabled?03:47
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BooZeeyep03:47
Bronessjohnm: thanks a lot! you were a very big help. :) keep it up! :)03:47
steigweiswickedpuppy: yes, me to. but there is the 1.5 beta available03:47
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adam_rhi03:47
brennerBooZee: but it isn't....and that's your problem?03:47
BooZeeyep03:47
brenner*isn't working03:47
creuwzydevice manager not recognize my proccessor.... is that ok??03:47
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Blissexcreuwzy: probably OK, not much depends on processor type.03:48
wickedpuppysteigweis, beta 2 .. so they jumped from 1.0.7 to 1.5 ?03:48
wickedpuppyreminds me of java03:48
steigweisthink so03:48
wickedpuppyonly in java 1.2 == 2 will return true03:49
brennerBooZee: not sure if that's a bug or not.....maybe just set the screensaver to blank at the same time as the time you've set in the power mgt option03:49
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BooZeebut it will still work (the monitor..)03:49
brenneri.e. turn it back on03:49
cielOLA03:50
cielalguem pode me ajudar, meu GAIN nao consegue acessar...03:51
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brennerBooZee: dunno, sorry.03:51
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adam_ri use linux because i cant afford a windows licence03:52
rob__?03:52
brennerciel:  Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:53
wickedpuppyfirst time i hear someone who can't afford a windows license03:53
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adam_rim like 1703:53
cielgracias brenner03:53
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adam_ri earn like $400 a week03:53
adam_raud03:53
wickedpuppynormally nobody i know buy windows03:53
cieli am from brazil03:53
wickedpuppylol03:53
wickedpuppyciel, hello!! i like pele03:53
wickedpuppy:P03:53
cielyes...all like pele03:54
adam_rbye03:54
titaniumif i'm adding a user as an ftp user only is it reasonable to make their home directory /dev/null?03:54
titaniumor perhaps should i use something else03:54
brenneranyone familiar with zlib?  i'm compiling and get this: "ZLIB >= 1.1.0 is required".  i have zlib1g(1.2.3) and zlib1g-dev(1.2.3) installed (breezy)....why isn't it recognising the libs?03:55
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johnmtitanium: I'd suggest /bin/false but yes.03:56
johnmtitanium: not the home directory though03:56
johnmtitanium: the users shell.03:56
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johnmtitanium: the home dir is still important for ftp :)03:56
titaniumjohnm: yeah thats what im using for their shell.03:56
titaniumjohnm: oh03:56
johnmtitanium: you will probably want to check tha tthe ftpd is configured to chroot them to ~ though.03:57
titaniumah crap it is configured that way03:57
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johnmtitanium: that means they can't descend any futher down the file tree.03:57
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titaniumi had my system set up and had to reformat yesterday, i backed up stuff like the proftpd conf but forgot how to re-set up the user accounts. :P you're right, that's how i had it before. thanks03:57
johnmtitanium: np/.03:58
titaniumhehe03:58
titaniumi did a chown -R root:root / as root ;P system was working great until then03:58
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johnmtitanium: yeah, not the best move ;)03:59
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johnmtitanium: if you want security, check out grsec, pax and RBAC (all part of grsec)03:59
johnmtitanium: might be a steep learning curve though03:59
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taihoproblem setting NVIDIA up. Installed nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx nvidia-settings04:00
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BluematHow do you delete info from the keyring..?04:01
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watnouBluemat: with the right tool or an editor04:02
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vir_dbhi folk!04:03
locusthi04:04
brenneris packages.ubuntu.com down?04:04
_native_pm me if you want'em04:05
vir_dbI've a question... i'm looking for the list of patches applied to ubuntu-ppc kernel... somebody can help me?04:05
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brennernvm, it's just really slow04:08
brennerfor me at least04:08
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pescoHow do I find out which package will provide a file "foo" again?04:09
billytwowillyso if I want to set cflags during a compile I would just go ./configure CFLAGS="-I/usr/include" right?04:09
Bluematwatnou, What tool?04:09
vir_dbgoodbye04:10
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brennerpesco: dpkg -S foo (package needs to be installed) or packages.ubuntu.com04:11
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GigaClonis there a way for me to set up a local cvs repo?04:11
pescobrenner: Hm, I'm sure there was a command that could do it for uninstalled packages, too, somehow...04:11
brennerpesco: probably....i don't know it obviously04:12
CarlFKHP Deskjet 812C - how do I do the cartridge cleaning thing?04:13
pescoOkay, but packages.u.o does it, so thanks!04:13
pescoubuntu.com even04:13
johnmbrenner: right. although it normally gives you a conmfigure option for that04:14
johnmbillytwowilly: ^04:14
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brennerjohnm: re: compiling?04:14
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johnmbrenner: yeah, autocompleted the wrong nick04:14
enycheeeelp ;p04:14
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billytwowillyjohnm, so if I'm trying to configure aac support into gtkpod and the libmp4v2 headers are in /usr/include then I would just use CFLAGS="-I/usr/include" then right?04:15
Bluematwatnou, What tool?04:15
Bluemat.clear04:16
enycmy system [was hoary, upgraded to breezy after breezy-release]  -- now fails [crashes]  logging into gdm/gnome....04:16
brennerjohnm: i see options for prefixes, but zlib isn't among them04:16
enycit DOES work if i use a 386 non-smp image04:16
johnmbillytwowilly: not quite. the include path should look there for headers anyways. you will likely see a ./configure option something like --enable-aac or --with-aac[=/usr/include] 04:16
enycit always _used_ to work....04:16
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johnmbillytwowilly: ./configure --help should work04:16
Swearingencan someone point me to a good sources.list for breezy + universal and such?04:16
enycsomething in breezy changed/broken recently ;-(04:17
brennerjohnm: yeah, that's what i'm looking at now04:17
johnmbrenner: ah I didnt read ytou had an issue to :)04:17
brennerjohnm: ha04:17
brennerlooks like a similar problem though04:18
derchilligephilhow can i update my java04:18
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pescoDo you guys know if there is any outside funding for Ubuntu, yet, or is it all paid from Mark Shuttleworth's pocket so far?04:18
SwearingenI gave them $2.0004:18
richardlol04:18
pesco:) That's good.04:18
johnmbrenner: yeah it does.04:18
brennerjohnm: i see this: "--includedir=DIR        C header files in DIR [PREFIX/include] "  does zlib fall under C header files?04:19
johnmbrenner: no zlib is something different. want to PM me and I'll got rhogh it. paste the error in there04:19
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Swearingenso seriously, when try to add universe and some other repositories, I get a gpg error and some archives not found, anyone else seen this?04:19
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NinjewWhat is the first thing I should do to get involved in helping out with Dapper testing / devel. after switching my repos?04:20
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bur[n] erNinjew: make patches :)04:21
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richardanyone know the configure switch to tell amarok to look for taglib1.4 in a different dir???04:21
richardi want to keep amarok 1.3.1 for now, and install 1.3.404:21
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PainKillerdoes anyone notice slow dvd burning in ubuntu?04:21
bur[n] errichard: 1.3.5 was just released04:21
brennerPainKiller: enabled DMA?04:22
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PainKillerbrenner: i'll check.. i think so04:22
richardahh04:22
richarddidn't realise04:22
richardwhich rpo?04:22
richardrepo04:22
derchilligephili need to upadte my java04:23
derchilligephilbut i dont know how04:23
derchilligephilcan anyone help me04:23
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tonyyarussoSay, how can I disable the cute little splash screen thing that Breezy does while it's booting up (so I can just see the terminal lines)?04:23
El_Cheesc04:24
El_Chectrl + alt + f104:24
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tonyyarussoderchilligephil: The instructions on the Java site seem pretty good; have you looked at those?04:25
lorenzodtonyyarusso: sudo update-rc.d -f uspash remove ??04:25
derchilligephilim in with it :)04:25
derchilligephiljust reading04:25
derchilligephilbut how can i disable my old java04:25
derchilligephilor will it be updated04:25
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Ninjewtonyyarusso: Change your /boot/grub/menu.lst and change nonaltoptions to 'nosplash'04:26
tonyyarussoderchilligephil: Presumably you could just delete the JRE directory.  Anyone know if this is true?04:26
tonyyarussoNinjew: Thanks.04:26
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qiHEWSfitry tarring the directory, upgrading, running setup and untarring04:26
qiHEWSfirerun the java setup and replace the directory afterwards04:26
qiHEWSfiyou might need to specify version etc. in a config file04:27
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derchilligephilmh we will see :)04:27
derchilligephilbrb04:27
falkehi, what is the command to install samba on ubuntu04:27
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Stormx2Hey04:27
Stormx2Why is it that when i edit a PHP file, it creates the same file again except with a tidle (~) on the end?04:28
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Stormx2so I'll save index.php and it will create index.php~04:28
bur[n] erStormx2: automatic backing up04:28
Stormx2Hmm04:28
bur[n] erStormx2: an "undo" feature if you will04:28
Stormx2Fair enough04:28
tonyyarussoNinjew: What does the "quiet" part of the nonaltoptions line mean?  (It's in the comment as an example.)04:28
bur[n] erStormx2: rm *~ works04:29
Stormx2Beep Music Player is really good, by the way. Its like XMMS but with a nicer interface04:29
Ninjewtonyyarusso: It supresses all of the kernel messages BEFORE init starts04:29
dooglusStormx2: what editor is that?04:30
tonyyarussoNinjew: Sorry, that was over my head.  (Still new to this-sigh.)04:30
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johnmStormx2: it *is* xmms with a nicer interface :)04:30
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bur[n] ernicer == gtk2 as opposed to gtk104:31
Ninjewtonyyarusso: sorry -- when linux boots, the kernel loads and shows a bunch of information about drivers loading, etc. Then, it executes 'init', which begins loading your OS programs -- a shell, the graphical display, etc04:31
bur[n] erdooglus: it's gedit04:31
Ninjewtonyyarusso: What 'quiet' does is it makes those kernel messages about drivers and whatnot not show up04:31
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dooglusI have a dapper chroot.  When I tried updating it, it couldn't configure 'hal' - it just hung at that point.  What should I do?04:32
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tonyyarussoNinjew: Essentially meaning that the boot process looks a bit cleaner, but you might lose information that could be useful in case of problems, right?04:32
Ar3sHola04:32
dooglusHi Ars304:32
BluematGuys, I want to be able to edit files remotely from a test editor like gedit, how would I go about doing this? I seem to be able to get the files into the editor, but on a read only basis, anyone?04:32
lorenzoddooglus: those are the risks you take with dapper04:32
Ar3shi04:32
lorenzoddooglus: if you don't mind things like that happening, cool04:33
doogluslorenzod: I think it's not dapper specific - I reckon even a breezy chroot would do the same04:33
Ninjewtonyyarusso: Not really -- you can still see those messages after a boot by running 'dmesg' in a terminal, and if your boot is hanging before init starts, you can manually turn off the 'quiet' flag by hitting escape at the GRUB bootloader (before the kernel starts booting004:33
Ninjewtonyyarusso: So it looks cleaner, but the messages aren't really THAT important04:33
derchilligephilok i installed java04:33
CarlFKhttp://ubuntulinux.org = "Bad Gateway  The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server."  is this my problem or ubuntu side?04:33
derchilligephilbut when i type java -version04:33
derchilligephilits still the old one04:34
lorenzoddooglus: possible, but surely the problems go if you reboot?04:34
thrushBluemat: why not just ssh in and vi?04:34
tonyyarussoNinjew: Beautiful!  Sounds good to me.04:34
Ninjewtonyyarusso: I have quiet off because all the scrolling text looks cooler :)04:34
derchilligephilwhat should i do now04:34
BooZeeI got a problam - I have an LCD screen. I don't want any screen saver cuz I heard it better just to use power managment shutdown (or go to standby) the monitor. So I did disabled the screen saver, but now the monitor won't go off. can someone help me with this? thank you!04:34
tonyyarussoNinjew: True, that has it's attractions.04:34
doogluslorenzod: the problems don't exist outside the chroot.  But I'd like to be able up update the chroot.04:34
bur[n] erBooZee: hit hte power button when you walk away ;)04:34
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BooZeenice..04:34
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BooZeeand now for real .. ?04:35
Bluematthrush, Because i dont want to use vi, alot of coding to be done and Im not use to vi, Want to have the ease of use of an editor like gedit04:35
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lorenzoddooglus: can't help you there..04:35
Ninjewtonyyarusso: Oh, you may need to run 'sudo update-grub' after changing those settings in the grub.conf04:35
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dooglusBluemat: how are you running gedit remotely?04:35
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lorenzoddooglus: I don't have enought hdd space to run dapper in a chroot04:35
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derchilligephilshould i copy all java bin files to /bin ?04:36
tonyyarussoNinjew: Right.04:36
lorenzodso I'm upgrading Breezy->Dapper instead.04:36
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pescoHi again. Which would be the best way to install X.org from CVS an an existing Ubuntu, without harming the package management, and preferably not uninstalling the official package?04:37
Bluematdooglus, Ive tried it a few ways, mainly by trying to ftp into the desired file even used a ssh session which uses sftp04:37
Bluematdooglus, no joy tho04:37
Bluematdooglus, can it be done?04:38
dooglusBluemat: yes, run "ssh -X user@host"04:38
dooglusBluemat: that'll get you a shell onto the remote host with DISPLAY set to send gedit back to the display you're sat at04:39
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dooglusBluemat: so then just run "gedit file" and the gedit will appear on your screen04:39
iiiearsSeveas - canonical and ubuntulinux.org are unavailable. :?04:40
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Seveaslooks like it iiiears04:40
bur[n] erBooZee: u check in hte "screensaver" for the power management stuff?04:40
contahola04:40
Rotanubuntu site down?04:40
BooZeewhat's hte ?04:41
bur[n] erpesco: make .debs' out of the Xorg cvs04:41
contaespaol04:41
BooZeebur[n] er:  what's hte?04:41
dooglusBooZee: it's a typo for 'the'04:41
contaspanish04:41
brenner!es04:41
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:41
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contaok04:42
SeveasRotan, iiiears, it'll be back soon04:42
jack-!hu04:42
ubotujack-: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:42
BooZeebur[n] er:  oh, then yes04:42
dooglus!cz04:42
ubotudooglus: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:42
jack-!za04:42
ubotujack-: I give up, what is it?04:42
Seveas....04:42
jack-!no04:42
BooZeepower managment is enabled04:42
ubotujack-: Are you smoking crack?04:42
Seveasdon't play with the bot04:42
jack-!yes04:42
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, jack-?04:42
jack-:P04:42
bur[n] erBooZee: it doesn't work?04:42
jack-why not seveas :)04:42
iiiearsNo doubt. - must be doing something right to recieve so much attention ;)04:42
bur[n] erBooZee: to turn off the monitor after X minutes?04:42
BooZeebur[n] er:  nope04:42
Seveas!botabuse04:42
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.04:42
BooZeebur[n] er:  nope04:42
PatrikJohanssonhaha04:42
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jack-oke :P04:43
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gimmulfHow do i find out which PostgreSQL version i shall install for my ubuntu systen?04:43
gimmulfor can i take anyone04:43
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PatrikJohanssonanyone here got photoshop cs2 running in ubuntu??04:45
pittigimmulf: take postgresql-8.0 for breezy04:45
gimmulfoki pitti thanks04:45
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spolai have a problem with playing ogg files in juk: they play as static (with output: gstreamer) when i play the same file in rhythmbox it works just fine. what should i do?04:45
pescobur[n] er: Is there an easy way to do that?04:45
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pescoI.e. one for which I don't need to know many details?04:46
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Bluematdooglus, I did that, and its sending the file back to me..in gedit, so thats the gedit thats on that machine, and not on mine..correct04:46
dooglusdooglus: type 'hostname' before running gedit.  you'll see which machine it's on04:47
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thrushPatrikJohansson: I think theres a gimp addon to make the interface more photoshopy..I know not helpful :p04:47
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dooglusthrush: it's called gimpshop isn't it?04:48
bur[n] erpesco: not sure with X packages... seems like a lot... easy with simple packages though04:48
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thrushdooglus: is it? I mostly just deal in vague statements..04:48
mootdooglus, yes04:49
pescobur[n] er: What will happen to the old packages?04:50
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sbartleylinuxIs there a way to remove Evolution without removing ubuntu-desktop?04:52
bur[n] ersbartleylinux: nope04:52
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Seveassbartleylinux, yes there is04:53
sbartleylinux:)04:53
RevellionSeveas to the rescue i see :)04:53
Seveasuse equivs to create and install a dummy evolution package with version number 10004:53
spolais there something i can buy to get phone support for ubuntu?04:53
mootwhy do you need phone support?04:54
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Seveasspola, see the marketplace at ubuntu.com04:54
Revellionspola: IRC support ain't good enough? O_o04:54
Revellion:P04:54
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spolacuz this just aint doin it04:54
dooglussbartleylinux: or create a new ubuntu-desktop package which doesn't depend on evolution04:54
spolathx Seveas04:54
sbartleylinuxSeveas, can you explain what that does?04:54
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Bluematdooglus,  Its using gedit 0.94 on the old box Im remotely editing files, would it be possible to use the version on the box I am on currently: gedit.2.x  syntax highlighing etc.. ?04:54
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Seveassbartleylinux, it will trick your dpkg database into thinking you have evolution installed04:55
dooglusBluemat: I don't use gedit.  I don't know if it has any ability to remotely edit files.04:55
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BooZeehow can I cloak my host/ip here in irc ?04:55
snooohey ppl04:55
sbartleylinuxSeveas, So once that is done, I can then do apt-get remove evolution?04:55
SeveasBooZee, www.freenode.net/faq.shtml04:55
CarlFKNinjew - you asked about testing:  here is what I use for testing the ubuntu installer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet04:55
snoooright, i have a ati radeon 9200 card, which i bought for a song at 4504:55
sbartleylinuxSeveas, or do I do that first then install ubuntu-desktop.04:55
BooZee10x04:55
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Seveassbartleylinux, you don't need to, by installing the dumm package you remove the real package04:55
Bluematdooglus, Do you know of an editor that can remotely edit files?04:56
tom__im back again guys with another question i can't find the answer for but it should be so easy to find04:56
snoooproblem is, my games tend to crash randomly, and xvideo refuses to work04:56
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dooglusBluemat: I use GNU Emacs.04:56
sbartleylinuxSeveas, ok. thx. I will see what I can do with that.04:56
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CarlFKNinjew - I have no idea what is the best use of your time, so don't take that that as a recomendation of what to focus on04:56
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snoooshould i try and get an nvidia card instead? is it likely the ati drivers?04:56
BluematSeveas, Do you know of an editor that can remotely edit files, besides Emacs04:56
tom__how do i install quake 4? I've downloaded the file from ID but how do i run the installer?04:56
hyperzhi @ all04:56
spola$250 a year for phone support ?!!04:56
SeveasBluemat, vim via ssh04:56
Seveas(which is what I ue for web design :))04:56
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spolajeezes ill settle with you guys then =p04:57
dooglusspola: phone support for less than a dollar a day?  how can that pay?04:57
hyperzlol04:57
snoooi'll say that again so its in one line04:57
seliniumhi Seveas  :)  I had some probs with you lamp meta if you are interested :)04:57
snoooright, i have a ati radeon 9200 card, which i bought for a song at 45.  problem is, my games tend to crash randomly, and xvideo refuses to work04:57
tom__can someone point me to an faq that tells me how to install programs that don't have reposotories?04:57
Seveasselinium, what's the prob?04:57
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spoladooglus, good point04:58
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tom__anyone? i read in the faq that i copy files to a directory but what does the file i downloaded do?04:58
thrushspola: my experience the techs are just googling stuff while youre on the phone..04:58
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hyperz==>> dus any1 know a good site/link where i can learn how to work with linux , im new to all this stuff and need a little help :s04:59
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tom__i can't see anything about it on the forums so it must be something simple but if it is why is there no guides to tell me what to do04:59
Moorenkopfhi, would you choose ubuntu for an old (600MHz) Notebook?04:59
hyperzmoorenkopf , YES04:59
dooglusBluemat: do yourself a favour and learn Emacs.04:59
spolathrush wow i should start workin there then ! :p04:59
hyperzEmacs ???05:00
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lorenzodMoorenkopf: yeah, but I'd choose desktop environment accordingly.05:00
seliniumSeveas, firstly it would not install because it winged about not being able to install phpmyadmin, so I installed phpmyadmin and tried to run it again and it still complaind about the missing phpmyadmin. Then I tried to remove phpmyadmin, and it was broken and unremovable! ompaul also installed phpmyadmin to see if there was a problem with the deb and he suffered the same fate! :)05:00
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spolawhat does emacs have that vim doesnt have? (no flame: ive never tried emacs)05:00
sbartleylinuxSeveas, not having much luck in finding information on equivs.  Is that a tool in itself or a switch for apt or dpkg?05:00
thrushMoorenkopf: ubuntu sever install with fluxbox wouldnt be bad.  Or maybe vector linux if youre comfortable enough with linux in general05:00
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lorenzodspola: memory consumption ;-)05:01
dooglusspola: I don't know, I never tried vim more than for a couple of hours.05:01
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tom__can anyone give me some advice please?05:01
slyjabanyone know why xmms locks up when i try to play media?05:01
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seliniumSeveas, also have do you have code highlighting in vim?05:01
dooglusvim does syntax highlighting, yes05:01
Moorenkopfnormally I use gentoo with fluxbox05:02
Seveasselinium, yes, vim has great syntax highlighting05:02
Moorenkopfso, kde is not needed05:02
cool_guyhello ppl05:02
Seveasselinium, and I'll look at that problem you reported, thanks05:02
spolaemacs has word completion?05:02
davix_i need a good dns05:02
davix_anyone?05:03
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cool_guyhey ppl i had asked for a question over here in the afternoon regarding the installation of the wine into ubuntu05:03
cool_guybut theres a problem05:03
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cool_guyits giving me a lot of errors05:03
cool_guycan ne 1 help?05:03
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sbartleylinuxSeveas, any pointer to information on equivs documentation?05:03
gimmulf!postgresql05:03
ubotugimmulf: I don't know05:03
seliniumSeveas, How do i get vim to do highlighting?05:03
hyperzcool_guy , i have the same prob :sss05:03
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Seveassbartleylinux, apt-get install equivs05:04
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Seveasselinium, :syntax on05:04
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seliniumSeveas, lol , I have got sooo much to learn!05:04
pittigimmulf: "!postgresql" ?05:04
sbartleylinuxSeveas, Is that in Universe then?  Not finding in base.05:04
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lorenzodselinium, vim comes with some great help, :help05:04
Seveasselinium, vimtutor :05:04
Seveas:)05:04
Seveas!info equivs05:04
ubotuequivs: (Circumvent Debian package dependencies), section universe/admin, is extra. Version: 2.0.6-0.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 132 kB05:04
Seveasyes it is in universe...05:04
sbartleylinuxk. thx.05:05
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gimmulfWhats the defaultpassword for the postgres user?05:05
seliniumSeveas, i did the first 5 mins of vimtutor to do what i needed to do at the time.... I need to RTFM05:05
pittigimmulf: there is none05:05
gimmulfpitti:  it asks for it05:05
pittigimmulf: "sudo -u postgres <command>"05:06
Seveasselinium, the total vimtutor is 30mins05:06
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pittigimmulf: "it"?05:06
gimmulfahha05:06
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brennerpossible stupid question: anyone familiar with autotools? what package provides them?05:06
cool_guyhey <hyperz> what problem do u have05:06
CyJimmy264Please answer, does ubuntu linux have any relation to ubuntu.org?05:06
psycodehow can i remove my shell logs ? so that next time i open the gnome-terminal, pressing "up" won't show anything ?05:07
seliniumSeveas, I will do it now! After a reboot to bring back my /home drive online. See you later! :)05:07
cool_guycan sum1 help me out plzzzz05:07
Matrice64psycode , there should be a history file in your home directory05:07
thrushpsycode: most is stored in .bash_history in your home dir  I believe05:07
cool_guyi have a problem in ubuntu:)05:07
psycodeMatrice64, thrush - thanks05:08
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Stormx2configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check05:08
Stormx2 <-- Fix?05:08
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CyJimmy264sorry, i've been disconnected05:11
CyJimmy264and again, has ubuntu linux any relation to ubuntu.org?05:11
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CarlFKCyJimmy264 - yes.05:11
thrushif I make a hardlink shares same inode# of file and the file is deleted does the hardlink preserve the disk space from being overwritten later?05:11
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SeveasStormx2, apt-get install build-essential05:12
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SeveasCyJimmy264, no05:12
CyJimmy264CarlFK: is ubuntu linux a part of that movement?05:12
CyJimmy264hmm05:13
Seveasubuntu.org is completely unrelated to ubuntu linux05:13
gimmulfpitti:  hmmm shouldnt there be some type of password for postgres?05:13
seliniumCyJimmy264, no it isn't!05:13
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CyJimmy264ok05:13
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seliniumCarlFK, have to looked at ubuntu.org?05:13
pittigimmulf: why? no password is more secure than one :-)05:13
pittigimmulf: and usually you should not do things as postgres, apart from adding new users05:14
pittigimmulf: but if you want a password, feel free to set one with "sudo passwd postgres"05:14
pittigimmulf: however, "sudo -u postgres createuser foo" (or whatever command) is really prefered05:14
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seliniumCyJimmy264, CarlFK:  ubuntu.org = World Forum of Civil Society Networks - UBUNTU.05:14
gimmulfpitti:  im installing gphotocoll, a software that handles pictures from my camera and it uses postgresql so when i start the software it asks for postgresqldatabase name / username / password ... i have created an database though05:15
pittigimmulf: then you should create an user for you, and then create a db that is owned by you, not postgres05:16
slyjabdoes anyone know why my xmms freezes (without error messages)when i try to load media05:16
pittigimmulf: see /usr/share/doc/postgresql-common/README.Debian05:16
PatrikJohanssonthrush: yeah but what im really missing are some of the tools in photoshop...05:16
gimmulfoki thanks05:16
pittigimmulf: this explains the steps to get you going05:16
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seliniumslyjab: open a term and type xmms. It may give you an error there05:17
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hjrahi to all05:18
seliniumslyjab: also type    ps -C xmms   in the term to see if there are any instances running in the background05:18
qiHEWSfijust to be on the safe side, make your password cryptic for others but easy for yourself and include some symbols as separators and numbers on clarifiers, and make the text sections begiin or end in capital letters05:19
[Spooky] PatrikJohansson: swede ? :)05:19
cool_guywhats the best way to make all softwares work on linux?05:19
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slyjabselinium: this is what i get in term ..libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:20
carslothehello05:20
cool_guywhats the best way to make all softwares work on linux?05:20
brennercool_guy: don't get too specific now. :)05:20
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sperezhello05:20
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sperezsomebody05:20
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sperezinstall dovecot in ubuntu ?05:21
cool_guysorry brenner05:21
cool_guyi need help man05:21
seliniumslyjab, There is your problem! What are you running Breezy?05:21
cool_guycomon atleast u help me:)05:21
infernallhow can i list text in console and only display the first column of 5?05:21
brennercool_guy: what programs do you want to work?05:21
infernallwoiuld sed do this?05:21
brennercool_guy: you asked a very broad question, that's all. :)05:21
cool_guyi want to install wine05:21
cool_guym sorry05:21
selinium!wine05:21
cool_guy??05:22
seliniumcool_guy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2999605:22
slyjabselinium: hoary05:22
cool_guyno05:22
cool_guytats not the point05:22
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cool_guyi have wine rpm n i tried to install it using apt-get05:22
cool_guyi couldnt it game me lot of error messages05:23
GigaCloncool_guy, use alien05:23
brennercool_guy: apt-get doesn't use rpms05:23
seliniumcool_guy, that wont work! You could try to alien /path/to/rpm but i would do it from the cvs05:23
carslotheI have a question. Can totem and mozilla pugins be loaded thrugh the ubuntu update? I feell that for people not used to linux it would be better to have a program for installing plugins05:23
soce_32slyjab: aptitude search mikmod, and see if the libmikmod stuff is installed05:23
cool_guybut i tried it in alien also05:24
cool_guyalien -i wine05:24
thrushis wine not in repos?05:24
cool_guybut no go05:24
cool_guyit gave lot of error messages05:24
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cool_guyi can send u a pic of it05:24
cool_guylemme send it to u05:24
cool_guy:)05:24
brennercarslothe: afaik, no. installing optional packages shouldn't be the updater's responsibility anyway if you ask me05:25
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slyjabsoce its there and installed05:25
carslothenot evryone can use linux05:25
brennerthrush: yes, it seems to be05:26
cool_guybrenner i have sent u the pics05:26
cool_guyu can accept it theres nothing other than my ubuntu pics :)05:26
Xappeanyone have any suggestions about this problem I have with skype (not the dependency/broken package problem)? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8179205:26
gimmulfpitti:  when i try to create the user using:  sudo createuser -A -D gimmulf it says createuser: could not connect to database template1: FATAL:  user "root" does not exist05:26
gimmulfdo you have any clue ?05:26
soce_32slyjab: ls -la /usr/lib/libmikmod*, and see if there is a libmikmod.so.2 and check for dead symlinks05:26
brennercool_guy: i didn't get a request.....anyway, like thrush said, it's in the repo...just install it that way05:26
brennercool_guy: or CVS like selinium said05:26
brenneri'm sure he/she will walk you through it05:27
PatrikJohansson[spooky] , jajemn :P05:27
brennercarslothe: i agree.... :)05:27
cool_guybrenner can u say it again05:27
cool_guyi was busy searching for the pics:)05:27
[Spooky] PatrikJohansson: hehe ok :)05:27
cool_guyi dnt know what a cvs is:)05:27
brennercool_guy: er, scrol up then05:27
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witlesshello.  i'm taking a look at OOo2 Base.  is it possible to define a calculated field in a query?05:28
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cool_guyi did but what is it?05:28
brennercool_guy: basically. why are you installing from an rpm when it's in the repo05:28
seliniumubotu tell cool_guy about wine05:28
cool_guywhats the actual command that shopuld be given in alien??05:28
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seliniumcool_guy, alien /path/to/rpm05:29
carslotheI live in Nova Scotia and Finding someone to give a crash corse is difacult05:29
Se7hshouldnt python-pygame be at latest version already? o.005:29
seliniumcool_guy, :)05:29
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witlessif you live on the water i'll come up on vaca and help you out  :-)05:29
cool_guythanx selinium05:29
francoishello everybody05:29
cool_guyis that the command?05:29
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CyJimmy264gis revido!05:30
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neologichello05:30
cool_guyselinium is that the actual command05:30
cool_guyi could find it in the man pages05:31
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cool_guythere was sumthing like -t, --to-deb sumthing like that05:31
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brennercarslothe: i understand....but using linux still requires the user to learn imo05:31
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carslotheu can add Armada m700 to the list of laptops that run ubuntu05:31
ompaulcool_guy, what package do you want to install?05:32
Strogsure, but try to take my wife's grandmother and teach her windows. It wasn't pretty05:32
seliniumcool_guy, i dont know where your wine.rpm is located.... alien /usr/yourname/Desktop/wine.rpm ? How would I know? :)05:32
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brennerStrog: :)05:32
thrushcool_guy: if youre not going to compile it I would just apt-get install wine or whatever05:32
seliniumompaul, He want to install wine... I've said not to use alien and the rpm but....05:32
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ompaulcool_guy, you deserve no help if you want to break the system and then blame the system05:33
carslotheimo ?05:34
seliniumthrush: good idea! cool_guy if you aren't going to compile it just sudo apt-get install wine05:34
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yephello05:34
ompaulcool_guy, it is in what is called a repository and that repos has the name universe, you add that and away you go - no problem05:34
cool_guycomon guys i am not here to annoy ne 105:34
cool_guyi am new to this thats it05:34
cool_guyis there ne thing wrong in learning?05:34
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brennercarslothe: nice. what brand is that?05:35
cool_guyi tried guys05:35
ompaulcool_guy, your learning to break your system05:35
cool_guyi sudo apt-get wine.rpm05:35
cool_guybut it said that sumthing is not found sumthing is missing05:35
yephello05:35
ompaulcool_guy, only if you have installed the relevant repo05:35
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cool_guywhats a repo?05:35
ompaul!tell cool_guy about reps05:35
carslotheCompaq armada m700 p3 600mhz05:35
ompaul!tell cool_guy about repos05:35
MenZa`!tell me about pie05:35
yepsomeone can help me i ve some pb with my sound cart05:35
MenZa`o_O05:35
cool_guywhere do u get io??05:35
seliniumcool_guy, sudo apt-get install wine05:35
cool_guywhere do u get it??05:36
ompaulcool_guy, read that page the bot sent you05:36
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ompaulcool_guy, then installing wine will be easy05:36
amarockubuntu is so BUGGY! Im having tons of problems! SOS! helpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp!05:36
carslothebrenner A'm I saposed to type you'r name first?05:36
cool_guyok guys i will read it05:36
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enycim having real hassle with my system since updates to breezy / kernel [was alright on breezy+breezy-kernel in the past.....] 05:36
falkehi there what is the command for installing openSSH?05:37
enyci have to use a 386 [non smp]  kernel05:37
GigaClonamarock, whats your probelm05:37
Seveasfalke, sudo apt-get install ssh05:37
seliniumcarslothe, It just makes it beep/highlight the message!05:37
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brennercarslothe: it helps. :)05:37
enycelse i get crash entering gnome etc.05:37
brennerwhat selinium said05:37
carslothesorry05:37
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tom__how do i execute .run files?05:37
seliniumcarslothe, no problems! :)05:37
enycim using a 440bx with dual p3 / 512kb cache each05:37
brennercarslothe: old news...you're already listed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsCompaq05:38
brenner:)05:38
enycit USED to work on this hardware but somethings broken recently ;-((05:38
carslothewow05:38
seliniumcool_guy, private message?05:38
joevandykI want to submit feedback about the Gnome ISO burning utility that's included in Breezy.  Who should I send it to?05:38
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enycseemingly software/ubuntu updates has broken it05:38
amarockoften i land up in console mode for no apparent reason...then i reboot...then i get into kde....and this ONLY happens when it tells me that hda6 was not cleanly mounted...also i cant go to google or ubuntuforums at times....help!05:38
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cool_guyguys what is kubuntu?05:39
tom__How do i run the quake 4 installer?05:39
cantonacan I use dapper repos.?05:39
seliniumcool_guy, it is ubuntu using the KDE gui instead of Gnome05:39
thrice`cool_guy, ubuntu, with KDE instead of gnome05:39
GigaCloncool_guy, ubuntu packaged with KDE instead of Gnome05:39
thrushcool_guy: kubuntu is basically just kde instead of gnome I personally dont like kde05:39
thrice`tom__, sh quake-4-XXX.run ?05:39
carslothebrenner I had winxp but it kiked the crak and whanted me to begg pirate-soft to use it05:40
GigaClonKDE = ItLooksLikeWindows TM05:40
brennercarslothe: heh05:40
ompaulcool_guy, have you done the repo thing05:40
Belutzkubuntu is... well, some people just said that already05:40
tom__thats it05:40
thrice`cantona, no, probably a bad idea05:40
tom__what is a .run file? and what does the sh command mean?05:41
psb154tom_: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/Quake4FrontPage?action=show&redirect=FrontPage05:41
thrice`tom__, well, a .run file is just an executiable basically...sh uses bash to run it05:41
Whistler!azureus05:41
ubotumethinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository05:41
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tom__how can i find this stuff out? I can't find anything on google05:41
cantonathrice`: really? compare to debian sid05:42
mxpxpoddoes anyone else running devhelp on breezy get a segfault when it starts up?05:42
carslotheis anyone runing 5.10?05:42
GigaClontom__, sh stands for shell,05:42
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thrice`cantona, dapper will be extremely unstable at the moment05:42
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enyccasr: me ;p05:42
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ompaulcarslothe, loads05:42
ompaulcarslothe, I have several boxes doing it05:42
seliniumcarslothe, me!05:42
mula`hi all05:42
amarockno one to hep:(05:42
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Whistlercan anybody paste good sources.list for breezy?05:42
tom__if i bought linux for dummies would it tell me all this stuff?05:42
seliniumhi mula`05:42
carslotheis it good?05:43
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cool_guyi will do it:)05:43
gimmulfWhen gphotocoll tries to connect to my postgresql database it says it cant connect, im using debian and created the database by doing this: $sudo -u postgres sh  and then createuser -A -D gimmulf and then createdb -O gimmulf photos  ... when i start gphotocoll (the software which need to use an postgresqldb) it asks me to fill in localhost/portnumber(5432)/dbname(photos)/username(gimmulf)/password(password for my user gimmulf) but it s05:43
ompaulcarslothe, what are you running?05:43
Whistlercan anybody paste good sources.list for breezy?05:43
seliniumSeveas, can we get a breezy sources list on ubuntulinux.nl ?05:43
Whistler!sources05:43
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)05:43
Belutzwhen i'm trying to start postgresql, it says "TCP/IP connections must be enabled for SSL" how do i enable that?05:44
mula`after upgrading to 5.10, i got an error message when the gnome login window appears telling me that something in my config is wrong and defaults are used. where can i try to look up the error?05:44
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ompaulmula`, the best way to do that is via google or malone.launchpad.net05:44
seliniumcool_guy, if you type in the person nick before answering it will highlight/beep the person you are talking to. If you type in the first few letters of the nick and press tab it will auto-complete the nick.05:45
mula`where is gdm logging its error messages?05:45
carslothehedge hog and the only prob I had other that no skills at linux wus one day all apps opened at once05:45
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mula`perhaps i can find it by myself :)05:45
brennertom__: yes, books on linux are a start....maybe look at tldp.org as well as linux.com's tutes05:45
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Whistlercan anybody paste good sources.list for breezy?05:46
Paralla1.05:46
ompaulmula`, that question :  /var/log/gdm05:46
Se7hquestion: why does my external hd turns off by itself from time to time?05:46
thrice`!repos05:46
ubotumethinks sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)05:46
seliniummula`, I had a similar problem myself.05:46
Paralla1.05:46
carslotheI had worse happen in windope05:46
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mula`thx guys05:46
ompaulWhistler, there is no such thing as good/bad sources have you broken yours?05:46
Whistleri think so05:46
Whistlercan you paste yours ompaul?05:46
thrice`Whistler, I just showed you the link05:47
thrice`http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/232505:47
GigaClonWhistler, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/232505:47
ompaulWhistler, it will only be like the ones on paste05:47
mula`Whistler: just change the word hoary with breezy05:47
ompaulcarslothe, if it works don't break it05:47
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mula`maybe this one is causing the error message? Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!05:48
ompaulcarslothe, the difference is not that substantial05:48
carslotheI was the kid that tore a part every thin05:48
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carslotheompaul the sad thing is I was useing computers since the radio shack tr-8005:50
Se7hdoes anyone as a similar 'problem' to this?05:50
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mula`Se7h: are you using a notebook?05:50
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Nekomagesanyone know where that link went to add mirrors to ubuntu for more packages?05:51
ompaulcarslothe, so get a book and sit down with it, go through it three times, or read all docs.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com they may assist in understanding this Linux stuff05:51
mula`ar, external. my fault05:51
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Se7hmula` not at all05:51
carslothecool05:51
carslothegot to run05:51
Se7hso, no power savings, if thats  on ur mind05:51
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Se7hnot that it is so bad05:52
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Nekomagesguess not >_>05:52
mula`maybe hdparm sends it asleep?05:52
Revellionman hdparm says it does :)05:52
Se7hbut its kinda annoying working with it and suddenly it 'standsby'05:52
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Se7hmaybe, and why?05:53
tom__has anyone installed quake 4 on linux?05:53
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Whistlerany good file manager for ubuntu?05:53
seliniumSe7h, You can use hdparm to solve, type man hdparm and read...  :)05:53
Whistlersmt like total cmd05:53
mula`dunno, tell hdparm not to do so :)05:53
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Se7hlolol05:53
Se7hok, ill do that :>05:53
Se7hty anyway05:53
ompaulwhats the regex for carriage return05:53
mula`i guess your hdd is configured to use accustic level05:54
neologicanyone here play planeshift?05:54
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thrushWhistler: midnight commander isnt bad but its in a terminal..05:54
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seliniumSe7h, You can also google hdparm and you can find some tuts.... :)05:55
mula`Whistler: nautilus05:55
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Whistlermula` nautilus is like explorer05:55
thrushWhistler: nautilus is pretty nice and already installed supports cd burning drag and drop and everything05:55
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Whistleri really do not like nautilus05:56
mula`then thou shall use mc05:56
thrushapt-get install mc and see if u like it05:56
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Whistlerthrush how midnight cmd package is called?05:57
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mula`can anybody teach me how to debug a gdm non-critical message --.--05:57
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just_inrecently did an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade on 5.04 and I lost the tabs for open programs on my bottom panel? How do I get them back?05:57
thrushWhistler: just mc05:57
mula`Whistler: mc05:57
cionimbaltsp-build-client error: Failed getting release file http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release05:57
cionimba. Solution?05:57
spyI can't play any mp3's on a newly installed ubuntu ?05:57
amarocchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. what to do?05:57
brennerthrush: yeah, nautilus *is* nice...i'd like drag selection in list view though05:57
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thrushbrenner: i just like the fancy thumbnails for all my tv shows ;)05:58
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brennerheh05:58
mula`amaroc: install Qt devel05:58
meuserj|workWhistler, try rox-filer or xffm405:58
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Whistlermeuserj|work thx05:59
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Whistlerthrush thx mc suits me just fine thx again05:59
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Morrowynmorning05:59
spyI can't play any mp3's on a newly installed ubuntu ?05:59
thrushWhistler: np05:59
ompaul!tell spy about restricted05:59
thrushspy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com you have to install a few things05:59
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mula`anybody here got an error message at logon from gdm after upgrading to 5.10 ?05:59
rantoI am having strange segfaults gdm, kdm and xdm  in breezy (amd64) when making a remote query from a specific host, but not from all... Anyone had a similar problem?05:59
Se7hmula` nop06:00
spyLike?06:00
Morrowyndoes anyone here have any experience with setting up linux on a notebook that has an ati card in it?06:00
joetheoddspy: I use xmms. sudo apt-get install xmms06:00
joetheoddI'm having trouble getting apache to display PHP files properly.06:00
spyHow do i get bmp06:00
mula`ranto: segmentation faults are nasty ...could be a messed driver or stuff06:00
spybeep media player?06:00
just_inwhat program controlls the tabs on the bottom panel in gnome - the tabs for all the open programs?06:01
Morrowynjoetheodd is the php module loaded? maybe add index.php to the prior to the part that says index.html06:01
ompaulspy enable the repo universe06:01
ompaul!tell spy about repos06:01
rantomula`: the strange thing is that the display is remote, so it has barely somerhing to do with display drivers.. I was thinking in some amd64 port problem06:01
Morrowynspy , run synaptic and do a search on : beep media player06:01
joetheoddMarrowyn, I don't have a index.html.06:02
Morrowynits somewhere in the httpd.conf06:02
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avalostare there any utilities to remote connect & admin a windows machine? I am trying to help a friend get rid of viruses/spyware and stuff06:02
Morrowynits the files that apache is looking for startup execution, say: your dir contains no index.html/php then apache shows the directory listing instead06:03
spyok06:03
Morrowynbut if index.html/php exist, it runs that06:03
spygot it06:03
brennerMorrowyn: me, but i'm using the vesa driver, so i can't help i'm guessing06:03
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Morrowynavalost www.realvnc.com  install the server on your friends pc and run the viewer on yours06:03
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avalostMorrowyn: thanks06:04
Morrowynmake sure you open up the proper ports on your friends router if he is behind a nat06:04
mula`avalost: if he uses xp, use remote desktop06:04
joetheoddMorrowyn, looks like I have apache installed instead of apache2, but the php module is for apache2.06:04
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Morrowyn?06:04
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Morrowynjust install apache2 or compile php for apache 1.3.xx06:04
seliniumavalost, there are better things than vnc in linux06:04
Whistlercan i instal program from source and later remove it using apt-get?06:05
Morrowynselinium its for connecting to a windows box06:05
Morrowyni dont recall windows having good remote connection stuff06:05
Morrowyncorrect me if im wrong06:05
seliniumavalost, sorry, missed the beginng... Morrowyn is right! for connecting to a windows box.06:05
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Morrowynotherwise : ssh :)06:05
seliniumMorrowyn, have you looked at freenx06:06
Morrowynnope, lemme see06:06
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abdllahhi all :)06:06
seliniumMorrowyn, you are missong out!06:06
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dragonkhhi06:06
Morrowynlooks cool06:06
dragonkhwhen I try to install kde-devel it says a diiferent version of the lib will be installed to the one that it depends on06:06
dragonkhany idea how to solve this?06:07
dragonkhdo I need to re-install ?06:07
sunshine82ive tar -xzvf a tar.gz file but it turn out the file is the wrong file i needed how do i delete it from my system i tried apt-get remove but that didnt work#06:07
ompaulsunshine82,  make clean06:07
ompaulsunshine82,  make remove06:07
ompaulsunshine82,  make uninstall <<< that one sorry06:07
mula`or simply delete it by hand06:08
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Morrowyni'd go for rm -rf /path/to/dir/06:08
peritusis it possible to use 8859-1 instead of UTF-8?06:08
mula`y not?06:08
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mula`anybody got vmware player running on breezy?06:08
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sunshine82ompaul it say there is no rule fro uninstall06:09
abdllahany idea how to create accounts in mysql ? or HOW-TO ?06:09
mula`my dear, it's in the apt cache :)06:09
echylohi, anyone has installed ubuntu on laptop : Acer 1692 and had troubles with it?06:09
seliniumMorrowyn, It is it is quick as well, full screen graphics. much better than vnc06:09
mula`why dont u use remote desktop??06:10
ompaulsunshine82, by hand then you may not get everything - but  it will be close and packages can be corrected if anything funny happened06:10
mula`you don't need extra stuff for this06:10
peritusis it possible to use 8859-1 instead of UTF-8?06:10
ompaulsunshine82, what package did you want install?06:10
ompaulperitus, yes - if you want to06:11
sunshine82ompaul it say when i try and delte it from the home directory that i dont have permission qc-usb-messenger-0.806:11
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mjrperitus, as ompaul said, yes, but why and where?06:11
Morrowynman compiling takes ages06:11
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ompaulsudo make uninstall << I would have thought that was obvious but (snigger) obviously not (ohh those puns kill me)06:11
ompaulsunshine82, ^^ 4 u06:12
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mula`sunshine82: how come you don't have permission on your home directory?06:12
mula`lol06:12
peritusompaul: yeah, i want to. all my files using swedish characters are in 8859-1 and everyone I know on IRC is using 8859-1 too. UTF-8 is nicer, but I have use 8859-1.06:12
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perituswhere do i change it?06:12
Whistler./autogen.sh: line 33: autopoint: command not found06:13
Whistler what can i do?06:13
Zeksershi, i'm doing some things to my friends pc via ssh but i run in to problems06:13
Zeksersdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kwin-baghira:06:13
Zeksers kwin-baghira depends on libidn11 (>= 0.5.18); however:06:13
Zeksers  Version of libidn11 on system is 0.5.13-1.0.06:13
Zeksers kwin-baghira depends on libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.5); however:06:13
Zeksers  Version of libqt3-mt on system is 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5.06:13
sunshine82ompaul it has alock on it i have permission that just what it say06:13
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Zeksershow can i update them?06:13
mula`Whistler: check what line 33 wants to do06:13
Morrowynapt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?06:13
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paisonekann mir einer erzhlen warum mein mplayer lauter ist als der gmplayer??06:13
henderhey guys06:13
mula`and install autopoint?06:13
hendermy screensaver doesn't work anymore06:13
ompaulMorrowyn, if you have a fast machine and a long time try compiling OOo and leave the house for a couple of days - also run time on the command :-)06:13
ompaul!de06:14
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe06:14
Morrowynlol i compiled kde for fun06:14
Whistlermula` $AUTOPOINT --force || exit 106:14
Whistlerthis is line 3306:14
ompaulZeksers, never ever paste in here use paste06:14
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Zeksersok06:14
ompaul!tell Zeksers about paste06:14
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henderwhenever the screensaver is meant to start, the screen just goes black in a very smooth and beautiful manner06:14
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Morrowyndecided to quit after 2 days although it was on a p3 450mhz with 64mb ram and tons of swap06:14
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mula`it says you dont have thecommand autopoint installed or in your $PATH06:14
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avalostok, anyone have a suggestion as to which client to use to connect to a realvnc server running on windows?06:14
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henderany ideas why my screensaver might not be working?06:15
avalosttightvnc, xvnc or other?06:15
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MonsieurBonsomeone here to help me with my wireless card?06:15
Whistlermula` any ideas of how can i install it06:15
Whistler?06:15
peritushey, did you know how i could change UTF-8 to 8859-1?06:15
Zeksershttp://rafb.net/paste/results/A3Q8a379.html06:15
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mula`since i dont know that siftwre this is, no06:15
Morrowyninstall realvnc on both the windows as well as the linux box, realvnc comes with a server and client06:15
mula`software06:15
Zekserssudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade didn't work06:15
paisonewo findet man denn hier einen deutschsprachigen channel?06:15
mirakhi06:16
henderperitus, in firefox, you press view -> character encoding, and then select the encoding of your choice06:16
mula`man du lamer #ubuntu-de06:16
mirakdoes ubuntu installer suggests PPPoE as network config during the install ?06:16
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MonsieurBonpaisone, #ubuntu-de06:16
avalostI don't see a realvnc client for linux in synaptic06:16
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Morrowynok, i dont know if its in the ubuntu rep, i just grabbed the tarballs06:16
avalostand on the website just the windows server & client06:17
peritushender: yeah, but i want to change it everywhere06:17
ompaulZeksers, thats a kde thing you might get better help in #kubuntu06:17
henderanyone have any idea how I can get my screensaver working again? It works fine in Xfce (haven't tried KDE). In Gnome is just goes smoothly and beautifully black06:17
mirakdoes ubuntu installer suggests PPPoE as network config during the install ?06:17
Whistlermirak i think so06:17
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avalostok, i'll just install from source06:17
ompaulhender,  have a look in system preferences screensaver06:17
hendernevermind, I got it working by changing away from GL to Color in advanced06:17
henderthanks, ompaul :)06:17
mirakWhistler: that's for a friend, he sucks06:17
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Morrowynanyhere runs ubuntu with a ati video card?06:18
Morrowyns/anyhere/does anyone in here06:18
Morrowyndmn typos06:18
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dragonkhhow do I force install something ?06:18
Morrowyn-f ?06:18
dragonkhI want to dpkg force it06:18
pabloescMorrowyn, Me for instance06:18
ompaul!tell Morrowyn about ati06:18
MonsieurBonany wireless expert in here?06:19
ompaulMorrowyn, that was 6 lines and the first one was understandable;06:19
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ompaulMorrowyn, 4 but what a waste as this points out :-)06:19
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MonsieurBonMorrowyn, it was 3, the last one was an answer! ;)06:20
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just_inhow do I upgrade from hoary to breezy? Is there anything to watch out for?06:20
Morrowyn:)06:20
ompaulMonsieurBon, by the time we were finished it was getting on for 1006:20
ompaul:-)06:20
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brennerjust_in: see topic06:21
mula`!dist-upgrade06:21
ubotuI don't know, mula`06:21
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mula`arr06:21
MonsieurBonompaul, right you are! what a waste. So you'd bette help me with my wlan card! ;)06:21
Revellion...06:21
Morrowynim planning on buying a notebook, but all notebooks with an amd64 cpu seem to come with an ati card, so im wondering if ati performs and install nicely on linux06:21
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Zekserstehy aren't helping me06:21
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Zeksersi just need to know how to upgrade those dependencies in theory06:22
henderMorrowyn: no06:22
Zeksershttp://rafb.net/paste/results/MhnPiM97.html06:22
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signiusMonsierBon06:22
Morrowynhender, so its not worth buying an ati and running linux?06:22
just_inbrenner: thanks06:22
signiusMonsierBon what wirless card you goit and whats the problem ?06:22
ompaulMonsieurBon, you emabarrassed me I know nothing of those cards - seems to be a pain unless you have a natively supported card have a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper06:22
henderMorrowyn: Ati has awful linux drivers, I haven't tried it myself, but this is what I've heard. I've also heard that recently it's been getting better :P06:23
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MonsieurBonompaul, it does not work with ndiswrapper06:23
MonsieurBonsignius, Realtek with RTL8180L chip06:23
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signiussome people say ati linux are better than nvidia and others swear nvidia drivers for linus are better06:23
signiusfrom what i recall realtek does need ndiswrappers06:24
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ompaulsignius, I doubt if Linus runs nvidia06:24
mula`:P06:24
henderI've never heard anything about ati being better than nvidia06:24
psb154is there a way of selecting all Development packages from Synaptic in ubuntu?06:24
Morrowynwell im running nvidia cards for quite a long time now, and installing them on linux isnt that hard and they perform nicely06:24
Zeksersompaul, what then?06:24
signiuswhy ?06:24
ompaulZeksers, nothing more - just suggested that you could ask there06:25
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amarockubuntu breezy IS buggy...im having the same probs http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=44185006:25
MonsieurBonsignius, it does not work at all. It used to work some 6 months ago after some expert did something for half an hour. But as that was my first day with Linux I don't have a clue, what he did. And no, it does not work with ndiswrapper. at least not until now...06:25
signiusMonsierBon http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?Keyword=818006:25
seliniumI have never had a problem with nvidia cards06:25
ompaulsignius, they want to touch his kernel06:25
Morrowynbut looking at the forum, seems quite a pain to install the ati drivers, but then again, if you survive that, does it run nicely :)06:25
amarochttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=44185006:25
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henderMorrowyn, sorry, but I have no clue =/06:26
Morrowynk06:26
signiusi always use nidia its a preference i have come to over the years even before using linux06:26
MonsieurBonsignius, could you write my name with "u" so it gets highlighted? thx... The drivers from realtek are for fedora, right?06:26
signiusati drivers have always been buggy as hell IMHO06:26
mula`pls assist me dudes, how can i debug a gnome error message at login time..i am getting stick06:26
signiusMonsiuerBon http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?Keyword=818006:26
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signiusoops06:27
XenguyHi - I see there is talk of a bad Firefox memory leak in the version released with Breezy - is this true, and if yes, does anyone know if there is a fix in the works?06:27
MonsieurBonsignius, the u after the e! ;)06:27
signiusMonsieurBon even06:27
Morrowynmaybe i'll just wait a while till amd/nvidia notebook arrive06:27
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dragonkhcan I do an internet install of ubuntu without any media?06:27
seliniummula`, It is a bug yes, but it only effects the login page. If you cant find any help today try again later. No need to worry06:28
Morrowynand spend my money on a ibook06:28
MonsieurBonsignius, those drivers are for fedora, can I use them in ubuntu???06:28
dragonkhlike from my current distro?06:28
henderXenguy, firefox has always been memory-hungry on linux, but if you get a problem, you can install konqueror instead, or maybe even epiphany06:28
henderXenguy, I've not experienced any problems06:28
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mjrdragonkh, you can do a local area network install, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOnCluster06:29
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Xenguyhender: no thanks, I don't want another browser.06:29
mula`disable ipv6 lookups in firefox and get happy06:29
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mula`of course not if you live in asia06:29
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henderXenguy, as I said, I haven't experienced any problems. Did this come from a reliable source?06:30
Xenguyhender: http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2005102500726OSHLSW06:31
francoisis someone knows how to write reverse adresses ipv4 in awk ? (read a file and generate reverse adresses)06:31
signiuschecking it out now06:31
Xenguyhender: part of the reason I'm asking is to verify -- I don't know how reliable the source is, or whether this is affecting more than the author :-)06:31
MonsieurBonsignius, can I compile them on my machine and they work with ubuntu?06:31
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henderXenguy: It's true that Firefox is very memory-hungry but judging from your name you're not new to linux, and might already know that it generally uses ~100MB memory06:32
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taihoOGL working, 920+FPS, but cannot change resolution.06:33
Zukerohender : it is supposed to be a "leightweight" web browser06:33
Xenguyhender: hehe - my name precedes Xen :-)  Anyway, I think there is a difference between 'memory-hungry' and 'memory-leak' also06:33
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henderXenguy: A lightweight cross-platform browser using XUL ;)06:33
St^Anger^19m100mb is lightweight????06:33
Xenguyhender: yeah, really06:33
dmlinuxhey guys, how do install a RPM file>? im kinda clueless when it comes to them06:33
inva|iddmlinux: man alien06:34
Zukerouse alien06:34
Xenguydmlinux: you shouldn't if you don't have to - what software?06:34
henderXenguy: It's lightweight on windows, but mostly just in terms of interface ... you might want to try installing Firefox 1.5 like the article suggests06:34
Zukeroalien file.rpm file.deb06:34
Zukerothen dpkg -i file.deb06:34
dmlinuxXenguy Limewire. they have a .sh i can run , but it doesnt work for me for some reason06:34
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Zukerobut you may have to solve the dependencies manually06:34
DawnFhi06:34
Xenguyhender: I might try that - I just wanted the developers to know, if they don't know already06:34
dmlinuxInvalid no entry for alien06:35
St^Anger^19mlightweight on windows? and not on linux?06:35
amarocone interesting question: is there any other debian-based distro like ubuntu???06:35
DawnFi have a question on transfering a HD with ubuntu to a new computer.06:35
DawnFanyone in the know in that area?06:35
henderXenguy: I'll see if I can report it on launchpad or bugzilla :) thanks06:35
ZukeroSt^Anger^19m not even lightweight on windows06:35
inva|iddmlinux:  Zukero's intructions will work06:35
Xenguyhender: thank you very much06:35
dmlinux!tell dmlinux about alien06:36
Zukeroamaroc : ton's of them06:36
dmlinuxzukero where is the dependency06:36
Xenguydmlinux: an alternative is 'gtk-gnutella' - that's about all I can offer to help06:36
Zukeroi don't know06:36
St^Anger^19mZukero: so why does every1 say its a lightweight one?06:36
henderZukero: On Windows it uses max 50MB of memory, except when it leaks, commonly only about 30MB, on linux it uses about 100MB06:36
signiusMonsieurBon http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers.802.11b.html#RealtekGPL06:36
Zukerobut as rpm do not manages dependencies, you will havve to find it out yourself06:36
dmlinuxXenguy thats what im using, but its slow and doesnt work half the time06:36
hender150MB right now, actually06:36
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Zukerohender : on a winbox right now : firefox : 83 Mb06:37
signiusMonsieurBon these are GPL drivers with source by the looks of it06:37
amaroca debian-based distro which is free, packs newset stuff??06:37
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amarocand is easily installable?06:37
Xenguydmlinux: good luck (googling on limewire ubuntu might be worth it)06:37
henderZukero: Woah! How'd you do that? :D06:37
Zukero [Current Uptime]   2days 14hrs 48mins 54secs  [Record Uptime]   2wks 1day 3hrs 55mins 21secs06:37
MonsieurBonsignius, yep, they are. But they are not for my chip....06:38
francois#msg francois06:38
Zukerofirefox never closed06:38
Zukero20 tabs06:38
dmlinuxXenguy i had it running with the SH file they give us, but it no longer works for soem reason06:38
amaroc i dont think there is any distro like ubuntu:(06:38
taihoCannot change resolution, NVIDIA card works good though.06:38
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VooDoothe ubuntu dvd is both installable and a live cd :)06:38
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henderah, that explains it then06:38
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signiusMonsieurBon you said an rtl8180L06:39
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Communist_FireFowhere is the ubuntu off topic channel06:39
taihoQuestion: How to change resolution when no other choice then 640x480 is available in Resolutions Manager?06:39
dmlinuxwhat is the apt-get or download for ALIEN06:39
tony_hi all! i am trying out gparted .. can i create a new partition while the hd is mounted?06:39
mula`sure06:40
VooDoodmlinux: sudo apt-get install alien06:40
tony_taiho: i think i can answer that?06:40
tony_taiho: w806:40
MonsieurBonsignius, yeah, but they say it's for philips and maxim. What's that supposed to mean then?06:40
Fanskapetyeah what's alien? :)06:40
taihotony_, I'll wait :)06:40
dmlinuxVooDoo o lol , yeah im dumb06:40
Fanskapetbesides a creature from another planet? :)06:41
VooDoo:)06:41
signiusMonsieurBon No it says that is other features that chipset supports06:41
VooDooalien: lets you convert rpm to deb etc etc06:42
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mula`how can i disable the ntp synchronisation at boot time?06:42
MonsieurBonsignius, ah right! well, I found my laptop in that list!06:43
Morrowyncya;ll off food06:43
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VooDooanyone know how to get the extra debian menu in breezy?  installing menu didn't work!06:44
signiusMonsieurBon If you read the info on the sourceforge link it explains in much more detail06:44
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francoislu mad-d06:44
MonsieurBonsignius, just read it! how do I download that with the cvs?06:44
taihotony_, How is it going finding the info?06:45
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mula`got it06:45
mula`sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove06:45
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mad-deuh franois, je t'ai propos une "conversation en priv"... enfin en thorie06:45
francoismarche po06:46
francoisattend06:46
signiusMonsieurBon You need to install CVS then use that to get the files06:46
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signiusMonsieurBon Or download the drivers of sourceforge06:47
tony_taiho: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53406:47
francoismad-d, ca fonctionne pas apparement06:47
taihothank you tony_06:47
tony_taiho: i hope it helps06:47
francoisretente06:47
mad-dt'as pas un onglet "mad-d" apparu  cot de l'onglet ubuntu en bas de la conv ??06:47
francoisnon06:47
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francoisils bloquent les msg prives06:47
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mad-drha06:48
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tony_question: anyone able to tell me how to partition free space on ext3 hd where ubuntu is mounted? I am trying gparted but that wont allow me to.. it wants me to unmount06:48
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mula`english pls06:48
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thrushdamn roomates06:49
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absenthtony_: you might be able to use a live cd distro to modify the partition.06:49
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jmazaredodoes the ubuntu 5.10(server) has a default internet sharing?06:49
absenthtony_: I don't claim to know what that might do to the existing install though.06:49
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jmazaredo??06:50
tony_absenth: thanx i thought of that but i was just looking to see if i could do it this way :) is gparted included in the live? would u use a command line program?06:50
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syndI got a 802.11g PCI card and a built in NIC. Is there a way that I can "share" the internet connection with a system that's connected to the NIC?06:51
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dmlinuxOk so instal ALIEN, then i turn the rpm into a deb, and dpkg -i and it say setting up limewire etc etc etc. then when i type limewire, it says runLime.sh could not be found06:52
absenthtony_: honestly, I've never tried resizing a partition with that wasn't NTFS using anything other then Ghost....06:52
tony_absenth: is that included in the live-cd?06:52
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absenthtony_: ghost is a norton product.06:53
sambagirlhow do you change screen sizes?06:53
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dmlinuxxenguy you get athat?06:53
tony_absenth: thx anyway!06:53
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zoexiihello, does anyone know how to make amaroK play aac (iTunes) files?06:54
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sambagirlhow do you change screen sizes?06:54
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dmlinuxsambagirl what do you mean screen sizes06:54
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sambagirl768x102406:55
sambagirl600x40006:55
sambagirllike that06:55
dmlinuxsambagirl system / prefrences /screen resolution06:55
zoexiisambagirl, system>prefs>screen resolution06:55
St^Anger^19mresolutions :S06:55
sambagirli ffind it06:55
sambagirl:)06:55
sambagirlok grazie06:55
taihoQuestion: How do I activate higher resolutions? My NVIDIA is setup the same as last install, yet something is not working.06:55
St^Anger^19mlol @ sambagirl's nick06:55
taihotony_, sorry, didn't help me.06:55
dmlinuxXenguy Ok so instal ALIEN, then i turn the rpm into a deb, and dpkg -i and it say setting up limewire etc etc etc. then when i type limewire, it says runLime.sh could not be found06:56
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dmlinuxcrap xenguy isnt on :P06:56
syndI got a 802.11g PCI card and a built in NIC. Is there a way that I can "share" the internet connection with a system that's connected to the NIC?06:56
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digitize!repositories06:56
ubotusources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)06:56
dmlinuxsynd no06:57
dmlinuxsynd you can get a cheapy wireless router and do it that way,06:57
absenthdmlinux: if you set up routed, or the like why wouldn't an ad-hoc -> cabled nic work as a gateway?06:58
synddmlinux: I was told you can.06:58
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djibanyone has a Wacom Volito 2 ?06:58
syndI remember someone writing up a HOWTO on this issue, but I can't remember the URL and I can't find it in my history.06:58
djibI can't get mine working06:58
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dmlinuxabsenth wireless cards arent for port forwarding. i have never heard of this being done. I have tried to do it on many occasions. the wireless cards support 1 type of connectioin, not the two , adhoc and infastructure06:59
absenthsynd: this isn't on ubuntu, this is using openbsd, and has some fairly specific restrictions on "how" he configured it to work, but you might be able to adjust a thing or two.  http://www.cisns.net/lab/lab01.shtml06:59
dmlinuxabsenth to connect to a router they are on infastructure06:59
synddmlinux: My wireless Mac does it.06:59
PatrikJohanssonHas anyone here gotte photoshop cs2 to work in ubuntu??06:59
dmlinuxsynd then it was mad to do so06:59
syndWith it's built in NIC and wireless card.06:59
dmlinuxsynd most cards dont support it06:59
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dmlinuxsynd made*07:00
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peritusmy wireless network is disconnecting often, but it keeps alive when im ping my router all the time07:00
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cens0redhi. What's the best app for watching ram video files?07:00
dmlinuxperitus what mode is it in07:00
peritusdmlinux: mode?07:01
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PatrikJohanssonperitus; how do you make it connect again??07:01
syndcens0red: VLC maybe?07:01
dmlinuxperitus a/b/g07:01
cens0redsynd vlc ?07:01
peritusPatrikJohansson: well it does not really disconnect, i just loose the ssh-connection to my server07:01
PatrikJohanssonperitus; aha ok then not the same problem i have :P07:01
syndcens0red: sudo apt-get install vlc07:01
peritusdmlinux: how can i find out?07:01
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syndcens0red: Or Google it.07:02
Ninjewwoot, got a deb of wine .9 built and installed -- I can't wait to test it out07:02
cens0redsynd is it good for streaming?07:02
thrushcens0red: nice thing about vlc is it includes its own codecs.  You dont have to worry about downloading extra stuff07:02
wickersok, so anyone else having shotty centrino (ipw2100) driver issues?07:02
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dmlinuxperitus umm you should know what your wireless card supports, 802.11a or b or g07:02
syndcens0red: Sure.07:02
cens0redsynd and thrush cheers.07:02
syndcens0red: mplayer or totem-xine is good as well07:02
dmlinuxwickers 2100 is bad, very bad07:02
wickersdmlinux, yeah, so I've experienced.07:02
DonChullioHi here is a very good Browser Game !!!! http://www.street-conflicts.de.ki !!!!! It's about Gangster and ...... !!!!!!07:02
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cens0redsynd got totem-xine. won't run this: http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200510/r62273_171748.ram07:02
peritusdmlinux: g07:02
SlutHi i can't play any mp3's somebody help please?07:03
dmlinuxperitus what is your router?07:03
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dmlinuxperitus so your wireless card is g only?07:03
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Colloidif i set up an ubuntu server (mysql/apache/php) with the standard desktop installation can i access the box via something similar to RDP on win32?07:03
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conconsomeone here from german ?07:04
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WildZeckColloid, in text yes07:04
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WildZeckColloid, install ssh07:04
stephankconcon: lots in #ubuntu-de07:05
WildZeckColloid, and access remote ith putty under windows07:05
ItkovianIf I build a regular kernel for ubuntu-powerpc, how do I build the appropriate initrd? mkintird -o foo version-bar seems to do nothing07:05
peritusdmlinux: im not sure. the card is wg511t from netgear(http://www.netgear.com/products/details/WG511T.php) , and the AP is linksys WAP54G07:05
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dmlinuxperitus chek your settings on your router, make sure they do not read "super G mode " or "gaming mode" that makes the connection fast but unreliable07:06
peritusdmlinux: my AP is in "mixed" mode07:07
peritusbtw. iwconfig says07:07
peritusath0      IEEE 802.11g07:07
dmlinuxperitus put it in G only if no one else uses your router.07:07
peritusokey07:08
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peritusdmlinux: now im in G-Only07:08
dmlinuxperitus that MIGHT fix it.07:09
dmlinuxperitus try it out for a bit07:09
peritusyeah07:09
peritusthanks07:09
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tencohi! where can i get a mysql-doc package for breezy ? its not in the repos07:09
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dmlinuxperitus similar thing was happening to my Girlfriends connection with my router. i had it in gaming mode, and it was very unstable, so since my wifi card supports a/b/g and hers is b, i put it in B mode, and i have NEVER had a disconnection since07:10
PatrikJohanssonHas anyone here gotten photoshop cs2 to work in ubuntu??07:10
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dmlinuxit is07:11
peritusdmlinux: ahh i see07:11
Itkoviancens0red: it exists on MacOSX too07:11
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dmlinuxperitus could be as little as the router was working too hard translating modes07:12
cens0redItkovian i c. ty.07:12
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dmlinuxlater taters07:12
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tencohi! where can i get a mysql-doc package for breezy ? its not in the repos07:13
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amarocktenco: u can download the whole mysql reference from mysql.com07:14
paxmasterhow could I burn a iso image07:14
Itkoviantenco: patience ...07:14
paxmasterusing cdrecord07:14
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ssamare you running breezy?07:14
amarockpaxmaster: are u on linux? use k3b or gnomebaker07:14
paxmasterI can burn with k3b07:15
n00bixgnomebaker is pretty good.07:15
ssampaxmaster, breezy you can right click on an iso and there is an option to burn it07:15
patrick_hello, does anyone have a little time to spare to help an ubuntu noob to overcome fakeroot error on creating .deb from .bin installing j2eesdk java07:15
sunshine82how do i fix v4l -conf07:15
paxmasterbut I want to make a script so I could burn it07:15
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paxmasterthat the reason it will be better for me to use cdrecord07:16
sunshine82how do i delete files from home directory that has a lock on them07:16
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djibPatrikJohansson, use the gimp ^^07:16
djibhave you tried installing it and running it in wine ?07:17
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Itkoviansunshine82: erm, become root?07:17
Colloidif i set up an ubuntu server (mysql/apache/php) with the standard desktop installation can i access the box via something similar to RDP on win32? - a *GRAPHICAL* desktop accessable protocol...07:17
haseldenColloid: you could try vnc07:18
dewdColloid, yes, use nomachine.com and freenx07:18
paxmasterwell I try to do cdrecord -scanbus but it didn't give the correct output of dev=07:18
dewdColloid, it's a very cool way to access a linux server07:18
DawnFdoes anyone know how to boot ubuntu when transfering the HD to a machine that has Windows07:18
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DawnF(probably changing the MBR, but i don't know how...)07:18
Boelratyinstall Grub07:19
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Boelratyor Lilo07:19
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moraleanyone running ubuntu on amd64 with an ATI videocard and it actually work properly07:19
thrushDawnF: switch the boot order in your bios might be easiest07:19
dewdColloid, check out the nomachine.com site and the Ubuntu Breezy FreeNX packages: deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas freenx07:19
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DawnFbut will grub find the right config?07:19
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DawnFi mean, the setup is slightly different (now IDE instead of SATA for Windows)07:19
Kuoliomorale: yes _o/07:19
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KurtKrautI've done sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/swap bs=1M count=3000 - how can I undo this command ?07:19
Kuolioi have 64bit ubuntu and fully working ati 3d07:20
DawnFcan i just run the installation CD to re-install grub?07:20
sonofx51i'm having problems trying to play mp3's on this ubuntu box.. and i was wondering if there was a link or soemthing i could read or do to find out how to fix this. Xmms freezes when i use it and totem says it doesnt have the proper plugin...07:20
feruloey, 2.6.14 packages for ubuntu anywhere?07:20
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SeveasKurtKraut, sudo rm /tmp/swap07:20
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thrushDawnF: plug your ubuntu hd in the same ide slot and everything it should show up as ha then..07:20
KurtKrautSeveas, thx07:20
moralekuolio, does the fireglcontrolpanel work without giving you a libexpat.so.1 relocation error?07:20
Kuolioit is messed up atm, but there is good how-to on ubuntu forums ---> breezy ---> 64bit to get it going07:20
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thrushDawnF: then you need to setup grub to boot windows..07:20
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gleesondwhat is a good program to burn dvd's and audio cds?07:21
Kuoliomorale, thats the problem "out-of-the-box", you'll find the fix in that forum thread07:21
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Bachus9000I don't know whether to ask this here or in a Cedega channel, but since I only have the problem with Ubuntu I guess I'll start here. :)  Anyway, when loading games through Cedega I've noticed that if the game runs in 640x480 normally, then Cedega will start it at 1280x1024.  This wouldn't be a huge deal, but my monitor makes an annoying clicking sound when it switches out of that resolution, which makes me believe I really07:21
Bachus9000shouldn't run at that res. :)  Running the same game (same Cedega version, too) on a different distribution--for example, Suse--gives the expected 640x480 resolution.07:21
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DawnFokay i'll try it07:21
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sunshine82itkovian then what what the command07:21
DawnFi'm kind of curious to see if it works, since the configs are kind of different on both pc's07:21
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thrushDawnF: xp can be picky dont know if moving hd will cause it to complain07:21
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paxmasterwell I did this  but I don't think is the right command cdrecord -v -pad speed=1 dev=0,0,0 src.iso07:21
pantrahi07:22
moralekuolio, ok thanks07:22
DawnFso how should i re-install grub?07:22
Kuoliomorale: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7558507:22
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thrushin ubuntu or from floppy?07:22
DawnFfrom floppy07:22
DawnF(cd)07:22
DawnFI can't boot ubuntu now07:22
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thrushDawnF: you have livecd?07:22
DawnFnope07:23
DawnFbut i just installed breezy on a different system07:23
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PatrikJohanssondjib, yes i have but i cant manage to import the registration from regedit in windows so when i start it i get an error that itt cant find serialnumber and user information and then it quits :(07:23
thrushprob easiest with knoppix or ubuntu live07:23
DawnFand noticed that at some point there was an option for the grub menu installation07:23
sunshine82im gettin this error  when i type xawtv -c /dev/video107:24
sunshine82: v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway v4l2: open /dev/video1: No such file or directory07:24
sunshine82 how do i fix this07:24
DawnFthanks trush07:24
DawnFi'll download the livecd then07:24
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sonofx51does anyone else have problems using XMMS, when i go to use it to play a mp3 it freezes..07:24
thrushcome back w/ livecd very easy to reinstall grub07:24
kev_i have two ubuntu desktops (A and B) and a single printer connected to A. both are running firestarter and allow incoming traffic on port 631. with firestarter enabled on computer B, B can't see the printer attached to A. but if i disable firestarter on B it works fine. what ports, other than ipp (631) need to be open?07:24
tencoItkovian: sorry, amarock: thanks. do you know why it was removed? afaics, mysql is in ubuntu main07:25
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hyperzhi07:25
Itkoviantenco: hey, np.07:25
tencoamarock: phps license issues?07:25
ItkovianI can get pretty impatient too, sometimes07:25
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tenco:)07:25
hyperzhey , hoiw do i open a .run file (its a game demo) ?!?07:26
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hyperzhow*07:26
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hyperzany1 ? :sss07:26
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djibPatrikJohansson, I'm sorry I don't use Wine... I can't tell you07:26
kev_hyperz: run chmod +x filename.run; ./filename.run07:27
Ninjewhyperz: sh filename.run07:27
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hyperzi dont use wine either , its supose to be a linux demo07:27
hyperzquake307:27
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hyperzfor linux...07:27
Ninjewhyperz: yeah, just do sh quake3-install-whatever.run or whatever07:27
amarocktenco: im sorry but i cant get what ur trying to ask buddy07:28
hyperzif i click on it it wont open but try's to open it with some sort of "notepad"07:28
tencoamarock: np. was mysql-doc removed from the ubuntu main repository because of license issues?07:29
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hyperzthe problem is , i cant install (dont know how) things in linux amarock07:29
amarocktenco: oh...dunno that dude07:29
hyperzkk07:30
Ninjewhyperz: Open a terminal07:30
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amarockhyperz: ask then...we're here to help..read some guides..its easy07:30
kev_hyperz: it opens in gedit (notepad like program) b/c the file's permissions do not include "execute". right-click, choose properties, then permissions, then check the owner's execute box07:30
Itkovianhyperz:  sh foo.run ?07:30
Itkovianhyperz: do 'file foo.run'07:30
Itkovianwhat does that say?07:30
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sunshine82does anyone know about xawtv07:31
sunshine82or configurin v4l07:31
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kev_sunshine82: i do, somewhat07:32
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hyperzeuh , hold on Itkovian plz07:32
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Itkoviansure07:32
hyperzthx07:32
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PatrikJohanssondjib; np07:33
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Sithy`hi, the installer isnt displaying my current partitions, howcome ?07:34
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sunshine82kev_ im tryin to get my webcam to work i need to set up the v4l and xawtv07:34
n00bixanyone else having difficulty getting this stream? http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2005/s1490610.htm07:34
n00bixit's a current affairs program.07:34
kev_are there known issues with firestarter and ipp-style network printing07:35
n00bixsorry this is the stream http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200510/r62273_171748.ram07:35
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kev_sunshine82: have you checked the ubuntu wiki? or checked google for instructions specific to your webcam?07:35
sunshine82kev_ when i xawtv -c /dev/video007:35
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kev_sunshine82: i've only used v4l2 when tv tuner cards (hauppauge 250 and 500) so my webcam knowledge is minimal07:36
sunshine82kev_ when i xawtv -c /dev/video0 it comes up with cant open /dev/video07:36
sunshine82kev_ do u know how to config /dev/cideo07:36
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hyperza 1000 times thx to all the peeps here who gave info to me , it works now :DDD07:36
kev_sunshine82: you need to load some sort of driver/module to support your webcam. loading that module will cause /dev/video to be created, and then xawtv will likely start working07:36
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sunshine82kev_ do u know how to config v4l07:36
tristanmiken00bix, I have it going, not the clearest, but I hear and see it07:37
kev_sunshine82: it's not so much configuring v4l (or v4l2 -- the 2nd generation of v4l) as opposed to finding a module that supports your webcam and the v4l interface07:37
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nebularI'm running hoary and my dvd and cd driver always startup with dma off.. how can I get it to enable automatically?07:37
kev_sunshine82: have you searched google or the wiki?07:37
n00bixtristanmike well I've got problems with my totem-gstreamer/ vlc set up then.07:37
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sunshine82kev_ i got my driver07:38
Tomcat_nebular: Change /etc/hdparm.conf07:38
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tristanmiken00bix, do you use firefox?07:38
nebularTomcat_: thanks I knew I was missing something obvious07:38
n00bixtraveller *nod nod*07:39
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n00bixtristanmike  *nod nod*07:39
tristanmiken00bix, do you have the mediaplayerconnectivity extention? and I'm using totem to view it07:39
VanguardeAh, here it is, fantastic07:39
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Sithy`partman only displays my drive (SCSI (0,0,0) (sda) - 160.0 GB ATA WDC WD1600JS-OOM) in the "partman", i can i only create a new partitions table, and not just create the necessary aditional partitions on the existing table, how come ?07:39
kev_sunshine82: which driver is that? and what type of webcam do you have?07:39
sunshine82kev_ i07:39
VanguardeI'm getting an error compiling WINE 0.9 -> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext07:40
VanguardeAny way I can solve this?07:40
sexcopter8000mhi there, I really like the way in xubuntu you can define a list of pictures and at log-in it picks one at random and sets it as the desktop wallpaper. is it possible in gnome to do that?07:40
n00bixtristanmike I haven't heard of a "mediaplayerconnectivity extention". Is that in the standard repositories somewhere?07:40
VanguardeI read something about makedefs but I wouldn't know how07:40
sunshine82kev_ driver is mw802 and webcam is ame group cu-98a07:40
tristanmiken00bix, no, it's on the firefox webpage07:40
mula`has anyone in here installed vmwareplayer on breezy?07:40
thomerzhi, which line i have to uncomment, if i don't want to have sudo rights for my user?07:40
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n00bixtristanmike aaah.07:40
n00bixtristanmike do I need that to get streaming?07:41
mula`vi /etc/sudoers07:41
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LokeDKhmm crap.. update-manager is broken.. http://pastebin.com/405488 this is the error it closes with07:41
smgilI have a proble with apache2 trying to access a directory out of document root using a <Directory> clause,07:41
tristanmiken00bix, it doesn't hurt...https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=44607:42
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WaernerI have a question about fsck and reiserfsck. How does it work? I get the error "Partition /dev/hda1 is mounted with write permissions, cannot check it"   -But I still want to use it, what should I do...?07:42
mula`anybody got a running lexmark Z600 series on 5.10 ? d'oh !!!07:43
smgilI made this configuration in ms windows before and it worked, do Ubutu has any special surity restriction to access files in this way07:43
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kev_sunshine82, give me a sec. i'm searching for more info on your webcam07:43
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mula`Waerner: you dont need to fsck a reiserfs partition07:43
mula`it is a journalling system07:43
GreenFireDhello, how can  I install gtk 2.0 skype?07:43
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GreenFireDhello, how can  I install gtk 2.0 style?07:43
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RevellionGreenFireD: simple07:43
sunshine82kev_ http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=59807:43
RevellionGreenFireD: put it in your ~/.themes07:43
GreenFireDhow? :L07:44
RevellionGreenFireD: i.e lets say you have hotthemegtk2.tar.gz07:44
thrushvanguarde: dunno if this will help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29996.html07:44
Revellionand you tar -xvzf it07:44
Revellionyou might get hotthemegtk2/gtk2.0/gtkrc in the terms of structure07:44
VanguardeI'll have a look at it, thanks07:44
Revellionthen you just mkdir .themes in your home07:44
Revellionand mv hotthemegtk2 .themes07:44
Waernermula': But is there anyway to check the whole drive then? Like MS CHKDSK... I think it might be some physical errors07:44
Revellionand voila07:44
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Revellionthen use your theme manager of choice and choose it ^_^07:44
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GreenFireDRevellion, thanks, I am trying it now07:45
ssamare the forums down?07:45
tristanmikessam, I'm there07:46
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kev_sunshine82, so what driver do you have?07:46
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ssamtristanmike, thats odd, i can't get to them07:46
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XiCillinI know ubuntu can work with amd64's but what about amd64 X2 processors?07:46
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PatrikJohanssonhow do i run .sh files??07:46
lilgHey all07:46
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XiCillinsh file.sh07:47
PatrikJohanssonyeah07:47
Sithy`the ubuntu installer only displays my drive (SCSI (0,0,0) (sda) - 160.0 GB ATA WDC WD1600JS-OOM) in the "partman", i can i only create a new partitions table, and not just create the necessary aditional partitions on the existing table (ie it doesnt seem ot detect my other partitions) how come ?07:47
thrushPatrikJohansson: or chmod a+x filename..07:47
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sunshine82kev_ nw802-2.4-0.0.9907:47
sunshine82 im tryin to configure it it comin up error07:47
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kev_sunshine82: what error?07:47
LokeDKhmm crap.. update-manager is broken.. http://pastebin.com/405488 this is the error it closes with07:48
lilgi was wondering if anyone has had any problems with the installation of 5.10, problems beeing not wanting to retreive pcakages at 6%07:48
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GreenFireDRevellion, where is the filed after i did tar -xvzf ?07:49
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GreenFireDfiles*07:49
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sunshine82kev_when i tryot make it say inux/kernel.h: No such file or directory07:49
sunshine8207:49
mula`LokeDK: reinstall it?07:49
lilglo lonewolff :)07:49
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brandonzhi trying to switch to using maildir format with breezy. Having a real hard time because mutt is not accepting the maildir directive in .muttrc. Seems like a system-wide muttrc file has little effect too. anyone else run into this sort of thing?07:49
LokeDK... err okay07:50
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OfeHi. I'm trying to get flash to work under firefox or any program. I've installed flashplugin-nonfree with command "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree". do I have to install any other plugins to firefox to make flash work under it?07:50
anacronhey!07:50
RevellionGreenFireD: in a nice dir named the swame as the tar.gz?07:50
Revellionlike hotthemegtk2.tar.gz could produce hotthemegtk2 <= dir07:50
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sunshine82kev_when i try to make usbvideo.c:20:24: error: linux/slab.h: No such file or directory07:50
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mula`you need the devel files07:51
GreenFireDwhat is the mean mkdir .themes in my home ?07:51
kev_sunshine82: have you installed the kernel header package?07:51
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punkiei have problems with my xwindow? it's my video card i think? it's an ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600 TURBO PRO?  do i need to instal extra drivers? or are the drivers from ubuntu ok?07:51
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GreenFireDI am getting :07:51
GreenFireDroot@212:/home/dima/Desktop# mv Clearlooks-Quicksilver BROWN .themes07:51
GreenFireDmv: cannot stat `Clearlooks-Quicksilver': No such file or directory07:51
GreenFireDmv: cannot stat `BROWN': No such file or directory07:51
Revellion....07:51
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sunshine82kev_how do i install that07:51
Revellionwhy in hell are you running as root?07:51
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Revellionpunkie: fglrx07:52
Revellionpunkie: xorg-driver-fglrx07:52
GreenFireDme?07:52
RevellionGreenFireD: yes..07:52
anacronis there any ubuntu channel in spanish?07:52
LokeDKcould anyone tell me how to reinstall a package with apt-get? dun remember the command07:52
kev_sunshine82: load a terminal and run 'uname -a'.07:52
brandonznailed it. nevermind. it was the /etc/Muttrc file07:52
HappyFool!es07:52
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:52
brandonzthanks for listening07:52
Ofe!es07:52
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ssamanacron, maybe #ubutnu-es07:53
kev_sunshine82: then load synatpic and search for 'linux-headers'. find the package with the same version number and select to install it.07:53
anacronthanks07:53
lilgp07:53
RevellionLokeDK: man apt-get + /reinstall07:53
kev_sunshine82: also ensure you have the build-essential package installed07:53
billhello, i am new to using linux and i am having trouble getting my printer to work could someone help me?07:53
anacron~~07:53
sunshine82kev_Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Thu Sep 15 21:14:32 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux07:53
punkieRevellion: with apt-get?07:53
Revellionkev_: apt-get install kernel-package should provide the headers stoo07:53
Revellion*too07:53
Revellionpunkie: yes?07:53
Revellionapt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx07:53
GreenFireDRevellion, ok so how i need to delete the files that I tar -xvzf?07:54
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lilgbill: tried using samba?07:54
RevellionGreenFireD: did'nt you see the output of the command?07:54
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Revellionthen you should've seen the folder it created07:54
Revellionand a simple rm -r *theme-folder* should do it07:54
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Revellionin your case07:54
HappyFoolRevellion: kernel-package does not obvious have linux-headers-* as dependencies07:54
RevellionClearlooks..... and BROWN07:54
punkieRevellion: and then?07:54
RevellionHappyFool: ouch07:54
kev_Revellion: how does it know which set of headers to isntall if you have multiple kernel packages installed?07:55
GreenFireDwhich?07:55
Revellionkev_: good Q :|07:55
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billno i  havent it reconizes printer it just doesnt print what is samba?07:55
GreenFireDok07:55
RevellionGreenFireD: both where created by unpacking it or?07:55
kev_HappyFool: so kernel-package does not pull in linux-headers?07:55
HappyFooli believe linux-headers-<arch> is the standard package on ubuntu07:55
HappyFoolkev_: doesn't look like it, no07:55
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n00bixhey HappyFool  I remember from #python07:56
n00bix*remember you07:56
sunshine82kev_Linux header 2.6.12-9-386, 2.6.12-9 , and 386 are installed07:56
HappyFoolhey n00bix. a while since i've been there07:56
GreenFireDlook, it is one name, why it wrote me twice?07:56
GreenFireDroot@212:/home/dima/Desktop# rm -r Clearlooks-Quicksilver BROWN07:56
GreenFireDrm: cannot remove `Clearlooks-Quicksilver': No such file or directory07:56
GreenFireDrm: cannot remove `BROWN': No such file or directory07:56
HappyFoolGreenFireD: try putting the name in quotes07:56
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HappyFoolrm -r "Clearlooks-Quicksilver BROWN"07:56
transgressGreenFireD: put a \ before the space after quicksilver07:56
Colloidi installed ubuntu on an old box and it's uber choppy07:57
kev_HappyFool: any chance you're knowledgeable with networking printing via ipp?07:57
Colloidlike i can't even move the mouse07:57
Colloidwtf is wrong.07:57
Colloidp3 with 256mb ram07:57
GreenFireDok thanks07:57
sunshine82kev_ i just though of something u know when u told me to uname -a i got linux 2.6.12.8 but the linux header that are installed are 2.6.12.907:57
HappyFoolkev_: sorry, i haven't used a printer with ubuntu07:57
GreenFireDnow I need to do every thing again now not in SU?07:57
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punkieRevellion: what now i have downloaded07:58
billlilg?07:58
Revellionpunkie: the fglrx driver hopefully07:58
Sithy`the only options in the installer are "ERASE ENTIRE DISK", and in "manual mode" i cant see my current partitions07:58
kev_sunshine82: hmmm. was there not a version of the headers that matched exactly?07:58
Revellionpunkie: to setup the xorg server to use the driver easily you could use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:58
GreenFireDmkdir: cannot create directory `.themes': File exists07:59
sunshine82kev_ there isnt a linux header with 2.6.12.807:59
Turandotbuenas07:59
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sunshine82kev_ they are all 2.6.12.907:59
Turandotalguien me podria dar un server del hispano?07:59
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rai0dirc-hispano.org08:00
kev_anyone know if there are changes in the kernel headers between minor-minor-minor versions? ie, 2.6.12.8 vs 2.6.12.9?08:00
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GreenFireDRevellion, I can't mkdir .themes . it writes me:08:01
GreenFireDmkdir: cannot create directory `.themes': File exists08:01
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sunshine82kev_ the build essitial is installed08:01
transgressthen move them into that directory that already exists08:01
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mula`cd .themes08:01
tristanmikeGreenFireD, "ls -a" to see all of the hidden files too08:01
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kev_sunshine82: i;m not 100% positive if the different header versions matter08:02
mirakWhistler: I can't use a && in a gnome launcher ?08:02
kev_sunshine82: you can try building the driver again and see what happens....08:02
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mirakI can't do command1 && command208:02
GreenFireDok I am seeing this folder in the desktop, but have still write me this08:02
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dell500for some reason my XMMS isn't playing flac, is there a plugin for flac on XMMS?08:04
synddell500: Check the xmms site.08:04
synddell500: I do believe that there is a FLAC plugin.08:04
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synddell500: It might even be in the apt.08:05
tristanmikeGreenFireD, what are you trying to do?08:05
MonsieurBonpastebin?08:05
MonsieurBon!pastebin08:05
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:05
dell500yup, it's in apt08:05
dell500thanks08:05
sunshine82kev_ how ddo i do that08:06
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sunshine82kev_ is this the right page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelByHandHowto08:07
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mdkeNEWSFLASH: badgers break into prison http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005490413,00.html08:11
mdkethem pesky badgers are everywhere08:11
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Digidestinedofdrhi08:12
thebeei have a question. i'm trying to play a mp3 on my ubuntu box and totem says it doesnt have the plugin and XMMS freezes when i try to play a mp308:12
thrushok i could google this but how do i scroll up in irssi?08:13
tristanmike!tell thebee about mp308:13
x86iCan you use Debians NetInstall images to install Ubuntu?08:13
thrushtheir wiki seems down08:13
mdkethrush, page up08:13
iiiearsthebee - gstreamer0.8-mad seemed to work for me.08:13
thebeei'll try it08:13
thrushnow thats embarrasing ;) ty08:13
Digidestinedofdr??08:13
Revellionx86i: should work :)08:13
Digidestinedofdrcan someone tell me what ur talkin about08:14
Revellionx86i: just use Ubuntu's reps instead of the debian one's08:14
Revellionand it should work08:14
Revellioni were able to install Breezy Badger using just a Hoary CD in a similar fashion08:14
tris622phi am trying to compile a project in glade. unfortunately, it doesn't show the pixmaps. it says "Couldn't find pixmap file: file.png"08:14
dell500is there a better version of ipod-linux to play flac files?  i heard it drains battery a lot more than the regular os for ipod08:14
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tris622phwhat shall i do08:14
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ubuntuyo peopel08:14
ubuntu*people08:15
thrushomg it ubuntu!08:15
ubuntui am using a live cd of ubuntu08:15
ubuntuwhats the roots password08:15
Tomcat_lol08:15
x86iRevellion: So I just mod the confiruation of the Install image to point to the local cd rom of another machine that contains the Ubuntu cd?08:15
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Tomcat_ubuntu: There is none.08:15
Tomcat_!tell ubuntu about rootsudo08:15
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Revellionx86i: nah08:15
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Revellionx86i: easier to just point it at the Ubuntu repositories08:15
iiiears!kernel08:15
Tomcat_!kernel08:15
Syrusssh08:16
Tomcat_:P08:16
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qiHEWSfiso what software can i use to run a dos-utility to write a floppy image08:16
qiHEWSfidosbox and wine both refused08:16
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x86iRevellion: True, but I just want to know if you COULD do that. I might be installing it in some offline sites.08:16
Revellionx86i: it should be possible08:16
Revellionx86i: since apt allows fetching from http08:16
Revellionyou should basically be able to mount the CDROM and share it through ftp or http jsut fine08:16
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sexcopter8000mhi, trying to compile a small application a forumite made, and get this error: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3603 does this mean i'm lacking a program for the compiling?08:17
iiiearskernel is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelByHandHowto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageHowto08:17
ssadikk!ntfs08:17
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions08:17
Tomcat_qiHEWSfi: Sounds complicated, but one sure way is to use a DOS boot disk (find it on Google) and then boot from it.08:17
iiiearsubotu kernel is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelByHandHowto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageHowto08:17
ubotuiiiears: okay08:17
qiHEWSfitomcat yes i am trying to write a dos boot disk image08:17
qiHEWSfitomcat floppy08:17
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ubuntuok thanks08:18
qiHEWSfitomcat don't really wanna waste a cd08:18
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x86iRevellion: Thanks, thats kinda what I was thinking, just didnt know if that net image would freak out if there was a filename difference.08:18
Tomcat_qiHEWSfi: CDRW? :>08:18
qiHEWSfiTomcat_ have none right now08:18
Tomcat_:\08:18
Revellionx86i: :)08:18
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XiCillincan ubuntu take advantage of dual core CPU's?08:20
michuksure08:20
Tomcat_XiCillin: Yes.08:20
michukit has smp in kernel by default08:20
XiCillinsweeeet08:20
qiHEWSfiTomcat_ besides, the place to go is bootdisk.com08:20
XiCillinawesome08:20
Tomcat_qiHEWSfi: Yeah, I don't know that by heart... I ask Google. :>08:20
seifeim trying to find a window manager called sawbox, tigmill and a theme called ancient. help  me out please08:21
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Tomcat_seife: Didn't Google find anything? :o08:21
seifelet me see08:21
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firestormHowdy. In OpenOffice do I have access to Times New Roman and Arial fonts?08:22
bam_finally tried kde desktop08:22
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bam_yuk, just a personal opinion08:22
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qiHEWSfiTomcat_ but i do have the dos 7.10 bootable cd =)08:23
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PatrikJohanssonis linux similar to mac(osx) ??08:23
qiHEWSfiTomcat_ maybe it will run 'live'08:23
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Tomcat_PatrikJohansson: Let's say it has similarities... I wouldn't call it similar.08:23
Dr_WillisPatrikJohansson,  in a very Vague loose way. :P08:23
tristanmikefirestorm, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts08:23
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firestormtristanmike: thanks :)08:24
wickershey, just wondering... is there a more advanced # on this server?08:24
tristanmikefirestorm, np08:24
Tomcat_PatrikJohansson: Especially, if you're going for the desktop, the differences are huge. There are more similarities under the hood.08:24
OfeWhat's the latest version of Mozilla Firefox available for Ubuntu 5.04? Synaptic says it is 1.0.2 but www.getfirefox.com says 1.0.7 is out.08:24
Tomcat_PatrikJohansson: Although both aim for a similar user interface.08:24
Dr_WillisBut the power under the 'hood' is often hidden on OS-X08:24
PatrikJohanssontomcat_ dr_willis, hehe, i was just thinking... wouldnt it be easier to emulate osx than windows since its more similar to linux and more programs and games work on it?08:24
dell500is there a good flac to mp3 converter?08:24
PatrikJohanssoni mean more games than on linux08:24
Dr_WillisPatrikJohansson,  personally - i dont like OS-X and the 'emulate this or that' is a moot point.. why not be BETTER.08:25
Nick_HillPatrikJohansson, MacOSx has a posix-like system behind the scenes. GNU/Linux is also posix. The GUI system on macOSX is proprietary. There are UIs for GNU/Linux you may or may not prefer.08:25
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Tomcat_PatrikJohansson: Well, there are applications that can be compiled on both systems... and I doubt the emulation layer is smaller in any case. :o08:25
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Dr_WillisThe whole field of the "GUI"  design - seems to be getting worse in ways.. and better in ways. :P08:25
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Ofe!firefox08:25
ubotuOfe: No idea08:25
PatrikJohanssonthe point is: i need photoshop in some wat, and i need it bad :P08:25
PatrikJohansson*way08:26
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kbrooksPatrikJohansson: gimp08:26
Dr_WillisNever used Photoshop. :P for my needs GIMP does it.08:26
PatrikJohanssonare there any mac-emulators available08:26
Dr_Willisbut each person has their own needs.08:26
PatrikJohansson??08:26
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kbrooksPatrikJohansson: WHY?08:26
Dr_WillisTHere are Mac Emulator stuff out.. never used any.08:26
kbrooksPatrikJohansson: Linux native first ...08:26
iiiearsThere is a project to make GIMP's interface like photoshop "GIMP Shop"08:27
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PatrikJohanssonwell i personaly "need" photoshop because i have tried gimp and i just miss photoshop too much :D08:27
Nick_HillPatrikJohansson, Much of it is about ends and means. MacOSx is based on a system which was free before Apple got hold of it. OTOH, the same cannot happen to the linux kernel. But if you were to start putting proprietary apps on the linux kernel you are back to square 1.08:27
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aclonedsheephi, i just installed 3d desktop from synaptic...how do I use it?08:27
tristanmike!tell Ofe about backports08:27
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PatrikJohanssonnick_hill, are there any macos emulators for linux??08:27
Dr_Willisaclonedsheep,  i think the wikis have a page on it.08:28
Dr_Willisaclonedsheep,  you mean the 'desktop changer' tool?08:28
kbrooksPatrikJohansson: gimpshop08:28
kbrooksPatrikJohansson: ^ use08:28
thrushPatrikJohansson: are you unable to install PS with wine?08:28
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iiiearskbrooks thats it.08:28
lilgbill: ??08:28
kbrooksthrush: GIMPshop08:28
thrushkbrooks: i agree ;-)08:29
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PatrikJohanssonkbrooks, its not the inteface i miss its the tools, but gimpshop has the same tools as gimp right??08:29
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PatrikJohanssonthrush, i cant seem to get it working :(08:29
kbrooksPatrikJohansson: http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=24108:29
thrushPatrikJohansson: hear u might need to install IE using wine as well dont know why that might be..08:29
Nick_HillPatrikJohansson, As I see it, the big difference between (FreeBSD|Linux) and MacOSX is the cocoa infrastructure and desktop/ window manager, all are proprietary. It may be possible to make a free software implementation, but you would be up against the same bigger picture issues as wine.08:30
BoD_SWATcan qtparted resize (into a larger one) a ext3 partition? (without data loss?)08:30
iiiearsIE on linux? - What is next activex scripting?  (Doh! slaps forehead)08:30
Nick_HillBoD_SWAT, resize2fs08:30
BoD_SWATiiiears, nnooo, no IE, please.... don't ;)08:30
PatrikJohanssonwell, my problem might be simple but here goes: when i try to install photoshop it just wont work, the guys at winehq told me to instead copy the ps folder, well after that i cant use it because it needs the regedit info, and i cant seem to export it from windows so it works :(08:31
thrushheard cs needs it but not ps 7..08:31
Nick_HillBoD_SWAT, qtparted is a front end for the command-line based parted. Parted support for late ext2 and ext3 is not so good. resize2fs is better.08:31
PatrikJohanssonnick_hill, thx08:31
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BoD_SWATNick_Hill, thanks, I'll take a look at it08:32
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tris622phiam having a problem using glade, who can help?08:32
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iiiearsPatrikJohansson - i have an answer though not an easy one - "InstallRite" snapshots your system to make application install packages.08:32
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BoD_SWATNick_Hill, I want to finally delete my ntfs partition and make my HD full ext3..... I just need to make my current partition bigger withy any data loss (it's important I don't lose anything)08:33
iiiearsPatrikJohansson, - It is free but you need to snapshot your windows system before you install photoshop and immediately afterwards08:33
PatrikJohanssoniiiears, that might be an option, how do i do it??08:34
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LasseLwhich device is the joystick port?08:34
iiiearswww.epsilonsquared.com/installrite.htm08:34
PatrikJohanssonthrush, have you got cs2 working in linux??08:34
GloXHmm I'm having a problem with the install cd, I'm on a 1280x800 laptop. The screen isn't aligned right, a part of the bottom is at the top.08:34
PatrikJohanssoniiiears, thx ill check it out08:34
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iiiearsI was so grateful i left them a micro-payment you might like that well too.08:35
Nick_HillBoD_SWAT, If the NTFS partition is at the beginning of the drive, there may be a dance to resize the partition.08:35
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PatrikJohanssoncant i just copy all the reg information from windows and give it to wine :P ???08:36
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Nick_HillPatrikJohansson, It is possible to copy various DLLs but to copy the reg info would be surgical.08:36
PatrikJohanssoniiiears, hopefully  yes :D08:36
iiiearsPatrikJohansson, i think that you can. - i just don'yt know where to start to get it all.08:36
iiiearsPatrikJohansson, - PhotoShop is best.08:37
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Nick_HillBoD_SWAT, if the NTFS partition is before the partition you want to grow, you will forst need to re-locate the partition towards the front of the drive, then stretch it.08:37
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Nick_HillBoD_SWAT, IOW, you cannot stretch partitions from the front, only from the back. If the NTFS partition is bigger than the ext3 partition, this may be easier than it sounds.08:38
dpmhi there08:38
PatrikJohanssonnick_hill, iiears.... well the people att winehq said to export the info from windows and then add it to the sytem.reg file in wine08:38
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iiiearsPatrikJohansson, - regmon   from the sysinternals site should let you peek at what reg keys photoshop needs as it runs.08:38
SurakHello. I want to ask where are the VTs on the latest breezy live?08:38
PatrikJohanssonnick_hill, iiears.... but i cant find the info specific for PS08:38
Nick_HillPatrikJohansson, I am not sufficiently up to speed with wine devel to know there is a regedit for wine.08:38
dpmquick question: does anyone know what an "upstream developer" is?08:39
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BoD_SWATNick_Hill, thanks dude. I just wanted to be sure :D08:39
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dell500is there another browser besides mozilla on gnome?08:39
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SurakI want to ask where are the VTs on the latest breezy live? There are no more VTs on it. Which prevents the machine from showing the shutdown messages.08:39
PatrikJohanssoniiiears, please tell me more about that.... how??08:39
Surakdel500: Firefox and epyphany.08:39
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Surakdell500: all use gecko, tough.08:39
pickett_dillo aswell08:40
PatrikJohanssonnick_hill, well there is a file that contains all the reg info.. but i cant seem to insert the right values for PS08:40
Nick_HillBoD_SWAT, If your ntfs partition is hda1 and your ext partition is hda2, and hda1 is bigger than hda2, you can relocate the file system like this: dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hda1 ###this is dangerous.08:40
iiiearssysinternals is a site filled with truely unique and powerful windows tools08:40
chaosblueCan anyone help me with a network config issue?  rtl8139 ethernet, Hoary.08:40
pickett_and some text based browsers..08:40
PatrikJohanssonnick_hill, and yes you can run the regedit.exe through wine08:40
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misfit_toyoff-topic but can someone confirm for me that Cisco routers and switches number their ports 1-24 and not 0-23?08:40
chaosblueI've exhausted everything I've found.08:40
BoD_SWATNick_Hill, I'll use qtparted or resize2fs :)08:40
BoD_SWATNick_Hill, thanks mate :D08:41
iiiearsthey sell more powerful suites of tools but the command line and limited gui tools a free.08:41
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PatrikJohanssoniiiears. ok ill check it out too08:41
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Nick_HillBoD_SWAT, Ok, but you may need to use dd and fdisk. It may be better to create a separate /home partition then delete other partitions, re-create and re-install, unless you are experienced.08:42
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PatrikJohanssoniiiears. is it sysinternals.com??08:42
iiiearsYes08:43
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iiiearsAnalogX is a similar site with some very unique and useful tools.08:43
sunshine82im tryin to rebuild my kernel can someone please help me08:43
BoD_SWATNick_Hill, thanks for all the advice. I think I'll do the partitioning tomorrow, for now I'll try to install my ATI drivers (got the howto already here :D)08:43
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ImBriananyone know if it's possible to run PHP4 on Apache1.3x on Breezy?  I keep getting a dependancy for PHP4 asking for Apache2.  If I disable Apache2 and run Apache1, PHP stops working.08:43
sunshine82my unmae -a does not match my linux header08:44
iiiearsImBrian - erm, - I have been using "L.A.M.P." linux apache mysql php - it is a preasembled package on source forge. - very convenient08:46
aclonedsheepdoes anyone use 3ddesktop? the opengl desktop changer tool08:46
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aclonedsheepiinstalled it but dont know what to do now08:46
Nick_HillImBrian, Check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP08:47
pepperhelp me please im canot find and instal gaim 1.1.508:47
ImBrianiiiears, but I have specific needs (PHP4, Apache 1.3).  Does LAMP include those?  I would assume it was only the most current of each.08:47
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Nick_HillImBrian, LAMP stands for Limux Apache Mysql (PERL|PHP)08:47
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ImBrianNick_Hill, yes, I know08:48
iiiearsIMBrian - i think you are right. - also if your job depends on it there is no better feeling than to have built a solid package on your own.08:48
lukewarm*cough*Python*cough*08:48
pepperhow can i find gaim 1.1.508:48
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ImBrianiiiears, when time allows, yes  ;)08:48
Nick_Hilllukewarm, :-)08:48
aclonedsheepis there a good chess training tool?08:48
pepperi search al for two fucking days08:48
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pepperkan iemand me gvd helpen08:49
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iiiearsaclonedsheep, "GNUChess"?08:49
ImBrianhrmmm...maybe I'll have to stick with Apache2/PHP4 for now  :/08:49
varunjainiitkcan any body tell me how to mount windows drive on ubuntu08:49
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jesseHello can anybody help a (relative) newbie w/ a major dependency problem? (I mean ubuntu has a problem)08:49
pepperwat een klote programma die unbuntu08:49
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djibvarunjainiitk, what type of file is it ?08:50
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pepperje krijgt niks gedownload en geinstaleerd  en als je iets geinstaleerd krijgt vind je het niks terug08:50
iiiearsvarunjainiitk, - check out this link.08:50
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varunjainiitkNTFS partition08:50
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iiiears!ntfs08:50
ubotufrom memory, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions08:50
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pepperen hier zijn jullie ook al zo vreindelijk08:50
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LasseL!nl08:50
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.08:50
J`when I am exploring my file system, changing folders - is there any way how to force the active window not to resize (e.g if im maximized and change a folder - the window minimizes!)08:50
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pepperwat een klootzakken zijn julliew allemaal08:51
Enlitei just installed apache2 and php5, and restarted apache, but php docs prompt the user to download rather than execute08:51
chaosblueI have a rtl8139 based ethernet card on Hoary that isn't working.  I'm trying to set it up with a static IP.  The router will spot it for a few seconds, then nothing.  All the hardware checks out.  However, nothing happens, and it disappears from the router.08:51
iiiearsvarun - it has a link to winmac_fstab - the script is one click and easy to understand if you examine it to see how it works08:51
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ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:51
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pepperhelp maar klootzak08:51
ImBrianlook how funny pepper is!08:51
MonsieurBonI just wanted to compile a package and get this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3600 Any ideas?08:51
PatrikJohanssonyeah .... hahaha08:51
pepperk9ijk wat voor kanker hoer jij bent08:52
aclonedsheepiiiears, I have gnuchess its an AI for something like eboards right?08:52
Enlitei just installed apache2 and php5, and restarted apache, but php docs prompt the user to download rather than execute08:52
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jesseIs there a good noobie channel?08:52
pepperinbrian is een gore flikker08:52
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tristanmikejesse, you're on the best now :)08:52
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jessetanks08:53
iiiearsacloned - it has been developed over a long period of time. it should play a strong game08:53
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jesseI got a dependency problem w packages maybe u can help?08:53
pepperhier helpt niemand yesse08:53
budluvacan someone take a look at this? wine / winesetuptk packages are broken, it wont let both packages install http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/360508:53
pepperze laten je allemaal stikkemn08:53
budluvawine wants to remove winesetuptk and winesetuptk wants to remove wine08:53
aclonedsheepcool...I guess I should just play it over and over again, I had this program for windows that was like a "trainer" gave you specific problems etc08:53
tristanmikejesse, general rule of thumb here is just ask, and someone usually helps right off the bat08:54
pepperalles geeft problemen met unbuntu08:54
Subliminali'm trying to install opera, i'm getting errors about it depending on libt3c102-mt, i'm on breezy and i have libqt3-mt but opera refuses to install :-/08:54
sunshine82need help building kernel08:54
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omerlhI need gcc that the kernel was build with. It 3.4.5. How do I install it?08:54
pepperwat you is pech hebben08:54
chaosblueOK... Is there a channel for networking issues?08:54
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PatrikJohanssoniiiears, nick_hill, thrush, kbrooks, thanks very much for your help... but now i have to go, ill see if any of it works later, cya08:55
iiiearsbudluva - this site has some nice automated scripts to install wine from the latest CVS snapshot.     (http://www.frankscorner.org/index.php08:55
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LasseLomerlh, i think it is just apt-get install gcc-3.408:55
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ubotu[ops]  Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth08:55
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sunshine82need help building kernel08:55
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omerlhOK, thanks.08:55
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PatrikJohanssoniiiears... huh??08:55
LasseLomerlh, though i thought that breezy was based on gcc 408:55
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Enlitepepper.... stfu08:55
nagualOk.  I have my workgroup setup so I can see my samba box in view workroup computers from windows.  However When I try and browse it it asks for a login name and password.  I have used the smbpasswd -a "user" command to add my windows username and password but still cannot connect.  Any suggestions?08:55
kbrooksEnlite: ignore him08:55
LasseL!kernel08:55
omerlhNo, I check, it 3.4.508:55
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sunshine82please help me08:55
iiiearswe help each oither.  only windows OS has users  - lol08:55
kbrooksAmaranth: did you get hilighted or did you see the spam? ;)08:56
sunshine82my uname -a does not match my linux header08:56
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omerlhHow can I check  which boot loader I have?08:56
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PatrikJohanssoniiiears. well thats one of the many things i love...08:56
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kbrooksAmaranth: :)08:56
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PabloKhi08:56
Amaranthomerlh: If you're running Ubuntu you more than likely have grub08:56
trans_errwhen playing quake4 my sound card drops frames so the sound is all garbled-- its a problem with alsa, but I don't know how to fix it. I get this error over and over: snd_pcm_writei short write: 940 out of 102408:56
MonsieurBonanyone knows, why I get this error when running make? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/360008:57
omerlhThanks08:57
aclonedsheepDoes anyone know how to use 3d desktop?08:57
PatrikJohanssoniiiears. well thx again and i hope it works :D08:57
foxgamerHey all. Anyone here use xfce? I'm having a few problems. Cheers08:57
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Enlitecan someone help w/ my php prob?.. when a php file is clicked from my webserver, it asks to download the php file08:57
Surakaclonedsheep: 3ddesktop is just a virtual screen switcher.08:57
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jesseI tried to install flightgear version 0.9.4 directly from synaptic which was  unsuccesful.When I restarted Synaptic I got an error telling me to fix 3 broken packages. So I did, and then was about to apply some other (minor) changes that I made when I read the fine print and saw that synaptic wants to remove 191 pacakges08:58
jesseHElp08:58
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sunshine82i have macromedia player but it doesnt seem to be workin how can i fix it08:58
iiiears Sun Java 3D Desktop seems interesting anyone tried it?08:59
trans_erriiiears: I have-- awhile ago-- its still mostly unusable08:59
nagualOk.  I have my workgroup setup so I can see my samba box in view workroup computers from windows.  However When I try and browse it it asks for a login name and password.  I have used the smbpasswd -a "user" command to add my windows username and password but still cannot connect.  Any suggestions?08:59
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iiiearstrans_err - okay - saved me a few aspirin. - grin08:59
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trans_erriiiears: yeah, its fun to play with-- but I wouldn't use it seriously for anything09:00
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thrushEnlite: i believe there is a #php channel on freenode09:00
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iiiearsExcept maybe spiking share price with a quick demo.... - lol09:01
Subliminali'm trying to install opera, i'm getting errors about it depending on libt3c102-mt, i'm on breezy and i have libqt3-mt but opera refuses to install :-/09:01
Some_Person[sickDoes any1 here have Simcity 3000?09:01
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LasseLjesse, if you don't get help here try searching http://ubuntuforums.org/09:01
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aclonedsheepHas anyone here had any luck getting vpnc or cisco's vpn client working?  I cant get either working...trying to get on my university's wireless09:01
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jesseoh yes I got help there but09:01
EvilDinhay09:01
PabloKhi, I need help with my fstab, somebody can help me?09:01
sunshine82does anyone know how to fix skype09:01
jessenobody could solve the problem09:01
jesse.)09:01
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EvilDinhow would i add programs to boot as user not us root09:02
LasseLjesse, that sucks, was it ubuntu-desktop it tried to remove?09:02
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Suraksunshine82: skype: there are issues with sound? look at ubuntuforums.09:02
jesseL. It wanted to remove 191 different packages09:02
EvilDinanyone any idea09:02
jesseI tried to compile flight gear and had an unsuccesful install of libc6 >02.3.2.ds1-21 and lib gcc1 and fgfs base >0.9.8 .09:02
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LasseLjesse, right, and everything depends on libc609:03
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Zuidensomeone told me the other day that ndiswrapper is on the ubuntu CD on Breezy09:03
Zuidenthey are a dirty rotten liar09:03
jesseL. yup09:03
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jesseI installed the hoary version of libc6 and then opend up Synaptic again. Unfortunately, I get more or less the same problem. 6 Broken packages.09:03
iiiearsEvilDin - thats a pretty good question would love to know the answer.09:04
bjronerm, how come the breezy kernel is 2.6.12, but there are only source packages for 2.6.10 and 11?  Am I missing something?09:04
jesseflightgear 0.9.8-3 libc6dev 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu libc6-i686 libgcc1 1:4.0.2-2 libstdc++6 4.0.2.2 locales 2.3.2ds1-20ubuntu all broken09:04
EvilDinbecause whemn my pc reboot all programs shuts down and have to run them again09:04
LasseLjesse, maybe you have backports enabled?09:04
crimsunbjron: of course linux-source-2.6.12 exists.09:04
jesseyes09:05
jesseis that bad ?09:05
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LasseLjesse, i had a something similar and I fixed that by disabling backports09:05
GloXwow, the scroll on my touchpad works in ubuntu, it does't even in windows in most apps :o09:05
Zuidenwhere can i find a ndiswrapper package for breezy?09:05
LasseLjesse, and then tried to fix the packages from synaptic09:05
bjronah, yes I was missing something, I was looking at kernel-source-2.6.x09:06
jesseLassel, OK thanks Ill give it a try!!09:06
LasseLjesse, my guess is that you should try to disable backports and install libc609:06
LasseLjesse, is this your post?09:07
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jesseLassel,  I dont understand What post?? I posted under ubuntu forums as user Cud "synaptic wants to remove everything" You mean this?09:08
LasseLhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80432&highlight=broken+packages+libc609:08
iiiearsEvilDin - still pretty neat but not it yet. http://ae-www.technion.ac.il/InfoPages/FAQ/job_control/background.txt09:08
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Stormx2Hey. Is it possibly to seamlessly mount an FTP connection into a folder?09:09
Zuidenwhere can i find a ndiswrapper package for breezy that i can download and move over to my ubuntu machine09:09
jesseyeah thats me09:09
SurakZuiden: ndiswrapper is easy to compile from source.09:09
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christoeveng all09:10
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Zuidennot without kernel headers and source installed on my machine09:10
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sunshine82does anyone know how i can get macromedia flash player to work09:10
LasseLjesse, maybe upgrading to breezy could save you if all else fails09:11
Suraksunshine82: please explain.09:11
jesseLassel,09:11
jesseLasoops09:11
ZuidenSurak: i don't have a internet connection on my machine so i would have to install the headers and compiler for me to be able to compile ndiswrapper and i need ndiswrapper to be able to connect to the internet to be able to download everything....09:11
sunshine82surak i've check the macromedia website it is installed but when i go to abc website it say the video is loading but it doesn t do anything09:12
jesseI meant, thanks, Im trying the synaptic thing now09:12
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iiiearsEvilDin - still a bit puzzling but it looks like you can add ~/.yourprogram to the home folder with a .sh file in the folder to start it. - i hate being new.09:12
Suraksunshine82: please try another site. For instance, video.google.com09:12
SurakZuiden: can't you arrange a wired net connection?09:13
Zuidenno09:13
iiiearsTorsmo is the example i found. - hope it is helpful.http://wiki.blagblagblag.org/Torsmo09:13
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Subliminalcould somebody tell me how to stop firefox freezing so often in breezy?09:13
budluvadoes this mean i have to install cvs? as the commands not found? or how do i do this? im trying to run WineCVS.sh /home/budluva/.WineCVS/Functions/RunWineCVS: line 736: cvs: command not found09:13
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TrackilizerHey guys.. i need your help.09:14
Surakbudluva: it seems so :-)09:14
SurakZuiden: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/debian09:14
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TrackilizerI connected my 250MB USB stick and deleted all the audio files i had on it, however i only have 78MB of freespace no and not 250MB.. there are no files on the stick anymore.09:15
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budluvais wine 3.3 the newest? or should i get the latest cvs release?09:15
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SurakTrackilizer: empty the trash.09:16
TrackilizerI did.09:16
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TrackilizerThere is no trash.09:16
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sunshine82surak it playin in video@google.com could adblock has block it somehow09:16
ponkI tryed to install a package but I got an error that it depands on pppoe. I checked in the package manager and it says I do have it (I even reinstalled it but nothing).09:16
ssamTrackilizer, do veiw -> hidden files in nautilus09:17
budluvaiiiears you there?09:17
SurakTrackilizer: go to a terminal and do a ls -la /media/usbdisk (or whatever it is)09:17
sunshine82surak at the abc website09:17
iiiearsYes09:17
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budluvaiiiears im having problems with that winecvs.sh script09:17
Suraksunshine82: maybe.09:17
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Suraksunshine82: or maybe just a bad route from where you're at to abc..09:17
sunshine82surak there is no sound in google though how do i fix adblock09:17
TrackilizerSurak, there seem to be some files on there.09:17
TrackilizerWhat now?09:17
ssadikhow can i change the resolution of my screen during boot?09:18
budluvaiiiears its askin me for a cvs password??? it says Password is probably : cvs so i enter cvs and then it just shows up asking me for a transgaming membership and does nothing09:18
ProN00bi am currently working with a 8051 microcontroller and our teacher only gave us some !windows! trialware compiler and flasher stuff, has anyone ever worked with something like that and knows how to get a decent development environment on linux ?09:18
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ssadikhow can i change the resolution of my screen during boot?09:18
iiiearsI have to admit i tried to install frm CVS most were succesful. - being a newb i got Cedega.09:18
sunshine82surak we could try and fix adblock and see if it work09:18
SurakTrackilizer : rm -rf .trash09:18
TrackilizerWhy does this happen anyways?09:18
Suraksunshine82: sorry, I don't know nothing about adblock.09:18
budluvaiiiears i want wine for dvd decrypter / dvd shrink, not for gaming09:18
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SurakTrackilizer: They're probably at a trash for a different user, isn't it?09:18
ponkI tryed to install a package but I got09:19
Trackilizerls -la /media/usbdisk09:19
Trackilizertotal 2009:19
Trackilizerdrwx------  2 erhard erhard 16384 1970-01-01 01:00 .09:19
Trackilizerdrwxr-xr-x  8 root   root    4096 2005-10-25 21:08 ..09:19
ProN00bthey should put autoflush on usbdisks, as well as not storing stuff in .trash, both fucks with my player atm09:19
ponkomg, can anyone help me with my problem?09:19
ssadikhow can i change the resolution of my screen during boot?09:19
TrackilizerWhat do i do now?09:19
vbgunz_Rhythmbox likes to crash a lot... How can I diagnose it?09:19
budluvassadik edit your xorg.conf?09:19
Surakbudluva:  wine latest release is 0.909:19
Stormx2ponk, whats the problem?09:19
ProN00bponk, doesn't apt-get/synaptic resolve dependancies automatically ?09:19
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ponkI tryed to install a package but I got an I tryed to install a package but I got error that it depands on pppoe. I checked in the package manager and it says I do have it (I even reinstalled it but nothing).09:20
SurakTrackilizer: try to format the unit.09:20
vbgunz_ProN00b, what player you have?09:20
iiiearsbudluva - http://www.frankscorner.org/index.php this is what i have.09:20
vbgunz_Anyone having a problem connecting to IRC through GAIM?09:20
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sunshine82does anyone know hwo to stop adblock from block in things09:20
TrackilizerWhy can't i just delete them?09:20
ponkdamn copy-paste...09:20
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MaTaKshow to install driver for my webcam?09:20
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TrackilizerHow do i delete it?09:20
Surak. and .. are default files. The're not really files...09:20
Stormx2ponk: You may have the wrong version installed09:20
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budluvaiiiears how long did it take?09:20
ponk<ProN00b>, I dont know.09:20
Stormx2ponk: Sometimes packages depend on older versions of other packages09:20
bkwMy gnome workspaces are gone from the panel, how can I readd them?09:21
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ProN00bsome chinese thingy, and if i reload it with 128 mb of shit, it gets on instantly, but i need to unmount it cleanly so its really on it, and that takes ages, vbgunz_09:21
Zuidenok why doesn't someone include the ndiswrapper on the CD and not the DVD09:21
Zuidenblah09:21
ponkdid anyone tryed to install eciadsl drivers on ubuntu?09:21
SurakTrackilizer: type df and take a look at your usb drive.09:21
isaawe32anyone have any luck with AWE32 isa card being recognized under Breezy badger 5.1009:21
vbgunz_bkw, just right click the panel and add workspaces too it09:21
iiiearsbudluva to install Cedega? - about 4 minutes and $15 dollars total.09:21
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TrackilizerYes.09:21
ProN00bponk, could you paste the error apt-get gives you somewhere ?09:21
SurakZuiden: did that package work for you?09:22
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thrushsunshine82: pkill adblock? :)09:22
vbgunz_ProN00b, ahh, I hear you, I have the SONY NW-HD1 and sad I haven't found support for it yet...09:22
Trackilizer70% used.09:22
CGAhi all09:22
ponkI cant... :-/ I dont have internet on linux...09:22
ProN00biiiears, and 5 bucks reoccuring per month09:22
Zealot87if i wanted to minimize all the windows on a desktop, what would the command be in terminal?09:22
Zuidenwell i am trying to see if ubuntu has a the dvd packages somewhere09:22
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SurakTrackilizer: if it shows only "." and "..", then there's somwething wrong.09:22
ponkbut I dont think its apt-get... I did dkpg...09:22
Zuideni would prefer to install something that is precompiled for my specific brand of debian09:22
SurakZealot87: control alt d09:22
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Trackilizer/dev/sda                251496    175880     75616  70% /media/usbdisk09:22
bkwvbgunz_: right, thank you.09:23
Zealot87surak, but what is the command in terminal?09:23
iiiearsyes - but for games you need the uipdates - he wanted to use DVD decrypt and DVD Shrink. - no need for a continuing subscription there.09:23
SurakNo idea.09:23
ProN00bvbgunz_, thats why you should nowdays only buy those thingys when they got some generik mass storage driver09:23
isaawe32Anyone have any luck with AWE soundcard?09:23
CGAhave you seen the "new" MSN spaces' logo? it's a plagiarism of the Ubuntu logo .. anyone here knows Shutlleworth email?09:23
ponkanyway, did anyone here installed eciadsl drivers on ubuntu?09:23
Zealot87what is the command to hide all windows, in terminal?09:23
SurakCGA: its old stuff09:23
ProN00bponk, dpkg, thats unereete09:23
CGASurak i just noticed09:23
vbgunz_ProN00b, I can use it as a haddisk without any problems. I just cannot use it to store music and play it :(09:24
ponkthats what???09:24
CGASurak, anyway i think that something should be done09:24
ProN00banyone knows how to change breezy bootlogo ? ^^09:24
SurakTrackilizer: sudo umount /dev/sda ; parted /dev/sda -s mkpartfs fat32 etc....09:24
iiiearsCedega - Handles Disk Copy protection included in most of todays games.09:24
SurakProNoob: which one? usplash?09:24
TrackilizerThat will reformat?09:24
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vbgunz_bkw, you're welcome :)09:24
ProN00bvbgunz_, try unmounting it from console and waiting till its done09:24
Zealot87does anyone know the command in terminal for minimizing all windows09:24
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SurakWill erase the partition and create another one.09:24
ProN00bi think its called uspalsh, Surak09:24
Zealot87or does anyone know where the macros are configured??09:24
meuserj|workZealot87, I dont' think there is one09:24
TrackilizerSo, do i have to do this everytime i delete stuff on my USB stick?09:24
jesseLasseL, it didnt work. I still get this message about having to remove 191 packages, if I try to ubgrade09:24
SurakTrackilizer: no.09:24
Surakit seems something's wrong.09:25
TrackilizerWhy did it happen?09:25
ponk<ProN00b>: thats what????09:25
vbgunz_ProN00b, it plays the OMA format... :(09:25
LasseLjesse, did you try to install libc609:25
ProN00bwhats OMA, vbgunz_, and does it only play that ?09:25
TrackilizerSo, what's the terminal command to format it?09:25
Iam8upanyone know why xwindows fails to start? i just formatted the hard drive and went through the installation, and on it's first boot it fails to start =/09:25
isaawe32sound card is detected on boot - but devices are not created (sound).  Any idea why?09:25
SurakTrackilizer: mformat /dev/sda  , or sudo gparted09:25
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jesseLasseL,  I installedl ibc6_2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13_i386.deb from a downloaded package09:26
aclonedsheephow do i create a file09:26
ProN00bponk, could you pm me your question again ?09:26
isaawe32> file09:26
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jesseLasseL, when I tried09:26
ProN00bSurak, know how to change that usplash thingy ?09:26
LasseLjesse, yes, but try to install the default one again09:26
vbgunz_SONYs NW-HD1 is not really an MP3 player... It has a 20GB HD *but* plays SONYs proprietary format I believe it is ATRAC3 or something like that... not sure... *but* looking at the music on the browser shows them all formatted as .OMA09:26
iiiearsIam8up - need more info. Error message/s ?09:26
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jesseLasseL, to upgrade libc609:26
Iam8upiiiears - it just says fails to start x windows, and asks if i want a debug window, but i don't have a clue what to look for...09:26
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LasseLjesse, I am a n00b too, I just try to help b/c you got ignored by everybody else even though your problem is severe09:27
thrushaclonedsheep: what kind of file?09:27
ProN00bvbgunz_, well, then just try to play the music on some non sony software player, and it will tell you what format it is, i am pretty sure you can convert to it09:27
vbgunz_ProN00b, I never bothered to look into it but maybe something is out there :|09:27
aclonedsheepi wanna make a config file for vpnc09:27
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vbgunz_ProNoob sounds like a good idea09:27
jesseLasseL, OK09:27
aclonedsheepsomeone on the forums just posted to create it without saying how and im newb :(09:27
ProN00bu dual booting windows for your mp3 player, vbgunz_ ? ^^09:27
jesseLasseL, thanks though! :)09:27
christowhat special things do I need to do to set up a ubuntu system as a print server on the network?09:27
iiiearsIam8up - hoping a more seasoned user can help with your question.09:27
vbgunz_yes09:27
SurakProN00b: there's something inside initrd. I don't remember exactly what.09:27
ProN00b*_*09:28
thrushaclonedsheep: what I do is 'echo 'some text' >> filename.conf09:28
ProN00bis that a config file ?09:28
MaTaKsi have a question. new in linux here, how can you tell that the distro is debian base?09:28
LasseLjesse, my guess is that you gotta force the default libc6 package to install over the broken one you got09:28
Iam8upiiiears - mm, ok - would using a 5200 128MB in PCI help? any known issues w/the card?09:28
SurakMaTaks: It will probably use .DEB files.09:28
vbgunz_ProNoob, damn... I searched for OMA in Synaptic and came back with 1000 hits :P09:28
ProN00bthere is the debian name everywhere, and is uses apt-get, MaTaKs09:28
jesseLasseL,  ok i'll try that09:28
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ProN00blol, vbgunz_ thats why you use apt-get oma|grep sony09:28
iiiearsIam8up - no problem with that card i use that same card with pci09:29
MaTaKshow bout the others, like mandrake fedora.. what base do they into09:29
chaosblueHello?09:29
ponkProN00B???09:29
ProN00bfedory is redhat, mandrake is suse or something evil ^^09:29
SurakMatakz: mandrake, suse are redhat based. Fedora is redhat09:29
Iam8upiiiears - all right, thanks09:29
ProN00balot of those are their own bases, MaTaKs09:29
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MaTaKsProN00b: can you name some of the common bases09:29
SurakProN00b: Suse and Mandrake (and conectiva also) are redhat forks.09:29
vbgunz_ProN00b, thanks, *but* I got an "Invalid Operation OMA"... It's cool, I am looking into it, will report back09:30
ProN00bponk, i can't find your question anymore, you could pm me09:30
ponkI sent you a dcc invite...09:30
isaawe32Looking for soundcard advice -- breezy awe3209:30
ProN00boh, vbgunz_ its apt-cache search oma|grep sony09:30
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ProN00bponk, its privmsg, i don't like dcc09:30
aclonedsheepthrush: what if it i need multiple lines in it09:30
SurakMataks: Most distributions are debian or redhat based. There are others too, of course.09:30
MaTaKsso there's a redhat base :)09:30
MaTaKsisn't that redhat a name of the distro09:31
SurakMataks: Gentoo is a entirely different beast, and so is Slackware.09:31
ProN00bdebian base > shitty other base09:31
MaTaKsbut now it's called fedora09:31
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ponkI sent you a private msg...09:31
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SurakMataks: Fedora is redhat's free version.09:31
vbgunz_ProNoob, nothing returned... I will try something else09:31
iiiearsIam8up - i think you can try this first in a terminal type " lspci " look for the bus ID of your VGA card should be something like this "0.01.00 " plug the number you see into this command okay.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ubotu may have a helpful link.09:31
Cody`how do I mount a cd without joliet?09:31
ProN00bMaTaKs, debian is the name of a distro too, remember ?09:31
iiiears!display09:31
ubotusomebody said display was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution09:31
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MaTaKsoh yea there's also a distro called debian :P09:31
isaawe32Anyone know if there is an equivalent to isapnp in breezy?09:32
ProN00bvbgunz_, you should check google for the file format and then apt-cache search that09:32
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SurakMataks: Redhat was only one distribution several years ago. They split in 3 versions: enterprise, workstation and free. The free version eventually became fedora.09:32
iiiearsIam8up - Did that help?09:32
ponkProN00b, did you got the msg?09:32
sunshine82can someone explain to me how adblock works please09:32
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ZuidenSaruk: that package didn't work09:32
TrackilizerSurak, thanks it worked.. so. what should i do to avoid thid in the future?09:32
vbgunz_ProN00b thank you for the hints!09:32
Trackilizerthis*09:32
thrushaclonedsheep: after that you can open it in gedit09:32
ProN00bno, ponk, i didn't even get a dcc invite09:32
MaTaKsSurak: how bout the enterprise and workstation, what are they're names09:33
ponkI tryed to install a package, but it says it needs pppoe (acording to my package manager I have it)09:33
chaosblueIs there anyone who can help me troubleshoot an ethernet connection?09:33
ProN00bvbgunz_, sorry that i couldn't help more, i haven't worked with audio formats much (mp3/ogg is your god ^^)09:33
Cody`how do I mount a cd without joliet?09:33
thrushaclonedsheep: thats not the best way i just normally either echo or type 'vi filename' and use vi as the text editor09:33
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SurakMataks: Redhat Enterprise and Redhat Workstation!09:34
SurakZuiden: Sorry, I'm quite busy now, or else I would compile it for you.09:34
SurakTrackilizer: empty the trash and umount the unit before removing it.09:34
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ProN00bponk, whats the exact package name it wants ?09:34
ponkpppoe09:34
viktorhi.. i have a small problem.. when i try to comple a app i get a errormsg saying i'm missing libstdc++.la how do i fix that?09:34
Zuidenits alright surak09:34
vbgunz_ProN00b, yup, I hear you... i am finding information about it now09:34
Zuideni appreciate your help09:34
Zuideni am going to post on the forums09:34
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GloXI'm having a problem with the display in console, the screen is shifted down, and the bottom part is at the top09:34
thrushaclonedsheep: you could prob just open your file manager and rightclick select like new something..09:35
GloXI think it's trying to do 1024x768 on my widescreen (1280x800) monitor ...09:35
ProN00bponk, it may need pppoe-dev or something, ponk09:35
ponkit says pppoe... whats pppoe-dev?09:36
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relanyone who dist-upgraded to dapper? did it break somthing badly?09:36
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SurakFabbione: why ubuntu live no longer has virtual consoles at vt1 thru vt6?09:36
chaosblueHello?09:37
ProN00bmaybe source code of pppoe so it can compile something with it, and did you install ppp stuff yet ?09:37
aclonedsheepIs anyone good with vpnc that could help me get it configured for my uni's network?09:37
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-WaI need to know apout Mp3 Decodeing and Realplayer any one got a link09:37
ponkI dont know man... I'm totaly new to linux... all I'm trying to do is to install drivers for my modem.09:37
sunshine82i have macromedia but it doesnt want to work on this website how can i fix this09:37
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wamy name is like this B/c i am an Op on another server09:37
fabbioneSurak: it does...09:37
jesseLasseL,  no luck. but libc6 itself is not broken09:37
SurakScOrPiO-Druid-WA: what do you need?09:37
ProN00bponk, do the default drivers work ?09:37
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ProN00bdid you check google for a step by step tutorial on installing em on ubuntu or maybe debian ?09:38
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ponkno default drivers... its a usb adsl modem and I need eciadsl to make it work.09:38
chaosblueAm I invisible?09:38
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wai need to know about restricted formats MP3 Decodeing MPeg Decodeing09:38
sunshine82i have macromedia but it doesnt want to work on the abc website how can i fix this09:38
B_166-ER-Xchaosblue yes09:38
chaosblueXD Thanks.09:38
Iam8upiiiears - i havn't tried it, but i'll try it once i get a chance09:38
iiiearschaosblue - nah you show up fine on screen09:38
B_166-ER-X(....)09:38
Iam8upiiiears - thanks for the suggestion09:38
sunshine82i think it has to do with adblock or popup block09:39
Surakfabbione: I'm trying in three different machines, none of them shows the virtual consoles. One is a intel mobo with a celeron, one is a msi mobo (via chip) with a amd64 and a msi (sis) with em64t. None of them has virtual consoles with breezy live.09:39
iiiears"Linux Community"09:39
iiiears;)09:39
ponkdid anyone here tryed to install eci-adsl on ubuntu?09:39
jesseEy everyone I can't remove a package W/out removing almost the entire system.09:39
fabbioneSurak: it works here.. i dunno.. file a bug in bugzilla09:39
Surakyes.09:39
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ProN00bponk, what has driven you to get a usb adsl modem ? *_*09:40
christoI installed ubuntu on my spare laptop, but it never asked me to provide a root password, so now I can't su - what's the trick here?09:40
Surakfabbione: any idea against who should I file a bug?09:40
brandonzcan't get postfix to use maildir instead of mbox even with home_mailbox09:40
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ProN00bethernet card + default modem = teh win, even inbuild card is better, ponk09:41
brandonzanyone seen this?09:41
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ponkomg, thats what i got from my ISP...09:41
ProN00band you still didn't paste your error message, ponk09:41
fabbioneSurak: nope..09:41
EvilDinanyone here which know how to set user startup (like for root, but that programs would be run by user, not root)09:41
NoUse!tell christo about root09:41
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wawhere can I get REALPLAYER for Ubuntu ?09:41
jonny_cyphase, do you live on here :)09:41
ProN00blol, ponk, your isp should provide support to you then, them fuxxors09:41
ProN00bScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa, did you try synaptic... ?09:41
iiiearsjesse - "ubuntu-desktop" (crosses fingers AND knocks on wood) is a meta package that can reinstall most of it09:41
budluvaconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH09:41
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wayeah09:41
ponkthey dont know what linux is...09:41
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wanothing09:41
budluvadoes that mean i have to install gcc?09:41
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thrushchristo: there is no root account 'sudo su' or 'sudo -s' or 'sudo command' and use your pass09:42
jonny_can I get edubuntu with a get-apt command?09:42
thrushchristo: its disabled09:42
ponkI ask them what to do and they keep saying I have windows...09:42
ProN00bponk, they ARE lying to you, you can be sure 99% of their hardware runs linux, other unix flavors...09:42
crimsunjonny_: sure, aptitude install edubuntu-desktop09:42
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Waim installing K3b right now ....................09:42
christothrush,NoUse - okay thanks09:42
chaosblueponk: I feel your pain.09:42
jonny_thanks09:42
christoweird tho09:42
christoI don't really like that09:42
iiiearschristo gksudo will give many apps root powers09:42
ProN00bponk, insist on talking to the master chief, and if you are talking to him, flame him09:42
iiiearsgksudo gedit09:43
jonny_BTW, thrash, the file was not corrupted!09:43
thrushponk: ask to speak with a 2nd level or 2nd tier tech maybe09:43
ponk<ProN00b>, well the support guys dont know nothing about linux...09:43
thrushponk: ask to speak with a 2nd level or 2nd tier tech maybe09:43
jonny_thrush*09:43
ProN00bponk, then insist on talking to the master chief...09:43
Surakponk: support guys are monkes :-)09:43
jesseiiiears, can I find ubuntu-desktop on synaptic09:43
ponkI dont see how will it help... the modem just dont have drivers...09:44
ProN00bsupport people never know anything09:44
Surakponk: what modem?09:44
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ponkALE13009:44
ProN00bonly stupid people use/need their help09:44
iiiearsjesse yes, that would be the best place. - synaptic handles conflicts a little better than apt-get i think.09:44
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ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wawhere do i go to loearn about Resrticted Formats ?09:44
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chaosblueI can't get my ethernet card to work.  It's rtl8139 based.09:44
Surakponk: what kind of modem is this?09:44
ponkusb adsl09:45
Surakhm... no good.09:45
chaosblueI was able to configure eth0, but the router isn't seeing it.09:45
ssamiiiears, apt-get and synaptic are pretty much the same, the are a few more deleloper tools on the command line09:45
thrushponk: you cant use ethernet?09:45
jesseiiiears, hmmm, synaptic still tells me that many many packages will be removed09:45
Surakjesse: what did you try to remove?09:45
ponkit has druvers at eciadsl... but I having trouble installing them.09:45
richie_any other guides to configuring nvidia apart from ubuntuguide.org?09:46
ssamiiiears, aptitude however has a fancy thing for uninstalling stuff you dont need anymore09:46
iiiearsjesse - i hope someone has an answer for you . looks like a very tough choice.09:46
chaosblueI've tried googling, but any help I find even close to my problem asks me to configure files that don't exist.09:46
Surakponk: If there's a ethernet interface, use it.09:46
chaosblueThe forums aren't any help, either.09:46
iiiearsThanks ssam. :)09:46
ssamiiiears, no problem09:46
jonny_this command does not work for me:aptitude install edubuntu-desktop09:46
ssamjesse, whaat are you trying to remove09:46
ponkethernet? I dont think I an  ethernet09:47
jessesurak, flightgear, libc6dev, libc609:47
jesselibgcc109:47
Surakjesse: do not remove libc609:47
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ponkit syas its supported over here http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/09:47
ssamjesse, those are important system files09:47
jessesurak, ok09:47
brandonzokay postfix under breezy will just not accept the home_mailbox directive.09:47
brandonzthis is frustrating.09:47
Surakjesse: nor libgcc109:47
Surakthen try again09:47
thrushponk: cant imagine who would make a dsl modem with only usb connection.09:48
ssamjesse, you dont want to remove libc stuff09:48
jessesurak, Ok09:48
EvilDindoes maybe anone know how can root start thing as some other user09:48
ponkwell, it costs like 2$ so...09:48
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ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Waany one still use windows at times ?09:48
thrushponk: whats model name?09:48
SurakEvilDin: man sudo09:48
ssamjesse, is flightgear a game?09:48
jessesurak, flightgear, libc6dev, libc6, libstd++6 and locales are all Broken09:48
sunshine82how do i fix my macromedia flash09:48
jessesurak, yes09:49
ProN00bchaosblue, that chipset sounds verry common, in fact i might even have it ^^ you might try configuring your connection than blame it on your hardware...09:49
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Suraksunshine82: is not your flash that's broken.09:49
chaosblueI tried that, too.09:49
ponkthis is my modem http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/modems.php?modem=3309:49
ssamEvilDin, su username -c 'command' i think09:49
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wahow come when i try to play a MP3 in XMMS it says i need a Codec ?:S09:49
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EvilDintnx09:49
godmatrixwhats up guys09:49
godmatrixwhats going on09:49
ProN00bponk, get quality hardware, it will save you serious trouble most of the time09:49
ompaul!tell ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa about w32codecs09:50
Surakjesse: download libc6 again, as well as libstd++6. Make synaptic reinstall them.09:50
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ponkwell, isnt it a windows like solution? :-)09:50
TerminXsince when are mp3s in xmms covered under w32codecs?09:50
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Waty09:50
sunshine82surak but when i went to google i could hear anything09:50
chaosblueBasically, eth0 is configured, the router is configured, but they aren't talking to each other.09:50
Bonfantialle<federicomattina666> no cmq per le immagini devi sentire giorgio http://www.clickevolution.com/surf/join.php?refid=9998450609:50
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sunshine82surak sorry but when i went to google i couldnt hear anything09:50
jessesurak, yok Ill try09:50
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa.!tell ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa about RestrictedFormats09:50
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa!tell ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa about RestrictedFormats09:50
ProN00bxmms is teh outdated people, use bmp !!!09:50
jonny_what does edubuntu get me that breezy does not have?09:50
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Suraksunshine82: take a look at ubuntuforuns. There were issues with oss and alsa some time ago. Perhaps you changed something for skype to work?09:51
Iam8up!tell iam8up about RestrictedFormats09:51
GigaClonScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa, you can also say tell me about bla09:51
ssamjonny_, thin client stuff09:51
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GigaClon!tell me about RestrictedFormats09:51
jonny_like, it is easier to use?09:51
sunshine82surak the forum keep timin out09:51
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ponk<ProN00b>:  isnt it a windows like solution? :-)09:51
GigaClonno09:51
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sunshine82surak what about macromedia flash player09:51
chaosblueThe problem starts during installation - it won't find the DHCP.09:51
jessesurak, but the problem is when I try to do that, syxnaptic threatens me with the removal of 190 other packages09:52
ssamGigaClon, what happens if someone has "me" as their nick?09:52
GigaCloni guess there are SOL09:52
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NoUsejonny_ I think it has some educational software and is designed to be used in a thin client environment09:52
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metry it now09:52
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jessesurak, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80432 is the complete description of my prob if you want to take a look09:52
ProN00bno, ponk, quality hardware is always good, you can't just go and hack your own drivers (unless the device is really 1337)09:52
SurakJesse: then use apt-get.09:52
Surakuse apt-get --download-only (those packageS), and then go to /var/cache/apt/archives and install it with dpkg --force-all -i09:52
ProN00band network over usb is just....09:52
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KurtKrautjonny_, try asking that on #edubuntu. Their website doesnt give too much data about what comes with edubuntu.09:53
ssam!tell me about RestrictedFormats09:53
soxfunhi09:53
Fredhey, is there a shell command to reverse-lookup an IP to see what hostname it resolves to?09:53
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Surakjesse: use apt-get --download-only (those packageS), and then go to /var/cache/apt/archives and install it with dpkg --force-all -i09:53
soxfuncan anyone tell me how to search files in ubuntu?09:53
Iam8upFred - network-tools.com09:53
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KurtKrautFred, yes... nslookup IP09:53
soxfunI want to know where de mldonkey kernel is :D09:53
Fredthanks KurtKraut :D09:53
ponkwell, I dont have money to get new modem... I'm only in high school...09:53
Surakjesse: if event that does not work, download the files manually and dpkg --force-all -i on them :-)09:53
ssamGIgaClon, did you get sent anything?09:53
GIgaClonno09:53
GIgaClondid you09:53
richie_I tried to install nividia-glx with my Geforce 3 MX but it crashed XOrg at startup?09:53
ssamyes09:53
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ProN00bmx is for loosers ^^09:54
richie_well09:54
jonny_OK thank you, oh yeah, I forget to bookmark the restrictedformats wiki, could somebody please give it to me?09:54
richie_im poor at the moment09:54
richie_:P09:54
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sunshine82does anyone know how i can get the info that in uname -a to match my linux header09:54
ProN00bmx is the looser indicator, richie_09:54
ponkbut it says this modem is supported... and some ppl actualy got him to work :-/09:54
jessesurak, ok Ill try thanks09:54
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GIgaClonjonny_, search for it09:54
soxfunno help? :)09:54
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jonny_ok09:54
cevizoglumx what?09:54
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ProN00byou should have bought a real gf2 instead of a 3mx, thad been better, richie_09:54
budluvageforce mx09:54
richie_Its old anyway09:54
ProN00bofc09:55
budluvalol gf3mx pfffff...09:55
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budluvabeat that :P09:55
richie_but i want at least a decent resoloution09:55
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ProN00bTNT2 > all !09:55
Surakanyway, I just love my voodoo409:55
ProN00b!!!09:55
ubotuhmm... ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me09:55
richie_like 1024x76809:55
loekicam someone help me here?09:55
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budluvayour gf3 can handle 1024x768 no prob, my tnt2 can fine :P09:55
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Amaranthgf4 with 128MB is enough for me09:55
cevizoglulol, nice one ubotu09:56
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Amaranthubotu: bad bot09:56
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ubotuno, you'red a bad person amaranth!09:56
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa!tell ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa about MPEG09:56
loekii have a problem to see the windows partitions under linux09:56
Amaranthubotu: botsnack09:56
ubotuthanks amaranth :)09:56
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ssamgrrr ubuntuforum.org is in a mood with me :-( it wont let me on09:56
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loekican someone help me09:56
ssamjonny_,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:56
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budluvaloeki you want to mount your windows partition?09:56
Amaranthssam: It seems to be having problems, I coulnd't get on earlier.09:56
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loekiyes09:57
ProN00bgf4 isn't enough for me, neways, does anyone know how to enable fastwrite and all that shit ? (i got a second pci ati card in this box)09:57
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Surakloeki: Take a look at ubuntu sites. Specially if they're NTFS.09:57
AmaranthProN00b: No swearing, please.09:57
loekiunder my windows i have 2 partitions09:57
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ssamAmaranth, i wondered how it could just me be09:57
loekione where my windows is09:57
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loekiand the other one with media09:57
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budluvaloeki mount -t ntfs -o loop /dev/HDX /where/ever/you/want/mounted09:57
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mauricioHi, I want to use the music player, but it asks me for a url to play... so you know any of soft music (rock or Spanish)?09:57
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Amaranthhmm, my d is running away09:57
loekiand i can't get mij second partition to see under linux09:57
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richie_Shall I compile the nvidia drivers if the binary dont work?09:57
Amaranthrichie_: why doesn't the package work?09:58
budluvaloeki read above, i just showed you, /dev/HDX is your windows partition09:58
richie_No idea09:58
ProN00bmaybe check Why it doesn't work, richie_09:58
richie_Can you help me do that please?09:58
ProN00bit works for other people, ya know, richie_09:58
wobsterhi. which software could I use to down-sample mp3s to constant 128kb/s? blade-enc is missing somehow. are there alternatives?09:58
wotnargmauricio: What player are you speaking of?09:58
sunshine82surak is there no way of fixin macromedia so it could work in abc website09:58
richie_Yeh im just unlucky09:58
jessesurak, what is the exact command for apt-get download only ? I got "Invalid operation libc6 " as an error09:58
Suraksunshine82: no idea.09:58
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ProN00bcheck Xorg.log, richie_, in /var/log/09:58
richie_thanks09:58
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SurakjessE: apt-get --download-only09:58
dell500is there a concrete howto for 3d accel with a ATI 9600XT?09:58
Amaranthsunshine82: We have no control over the flash player, it's up to macromedia to fix it.09:59
ProN00bafter a failed xorg start from rescue or something, richie_09:59
Amaranthsunshine82: This is why closed-source software is bad. ;)09:59
Surakdell500: they call those boards r300 or something like that. you need a proprietary driver for now.09:59
chusohi!09:59
Amaranthdell500: You need the fglrx package09:59
soxfunHow can I find files in ubuntu?09:59
mauricio???09:59
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wais there a better IRC client then Xchat for linux09:59
soxfunwell, search for files09:59
chusoplease, does anybody get vmware works on ubuntu breezy?09:59
haseldensoxfun > go to places > search for files10:00
Amaranth!info xorg-driver-xglrx10:00
TerminXvmware works fine10:00
richie_Whats wrong with xchat?10:00
dell500Amaranth, isn't that  really buggy?10:00
Suraksoxfun: there's a places - search10:00
haseldenor do a 'man find' from the term window10:00
Amaranthdell500: install the xorg-driver-xglrx10:00
jonny_RestrictedFormats commands do not work for me10:00
dell500Amaranth, that's all?10:00
Amaranthdell500: it's ati's closed-source driver, so probably10:00
Amaranthdell500: yep10:00
chusoTerminX: i couldnt make it works on my lapton and on my pc too10:00
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wotnargjonny_: Did you enable restricted in sources.list?10:00
jesse++610:00
soxfunbut it doesn't find me anything!10:00
Amaranthdell500: ack, it's xorg-driver-fglrx10:00
jonny_no, is that in the wicki?10:00
dell500ok, i'll try it10:00
dell500last time i did it on hoary it kinda screwed up10:01
KurtKrautScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa, if you are trying to find a software, go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and them type 'IRC'. See what you get. May be you can find something interesing between the results. Most them won't feet for you.10:01
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soxfunI want to know where MLNET is...10:01
wotnargjonny_: Not sure, but you might need to depending on what your trying to do.10:01
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Amaranthdell500: basically it's that or nothing for any ATI card newer than Radeon 925010:01
jonny_flash and java instilation10:01
Amaranthdell500: there are people working on open source drivers for your card but they are a bit iffy right now10:01
jonny_installation*10:01
dell500Amaranth, wow, i didn't know it was that easy, i was following these other howtos that made it so difficult10:02
dell500ya10:02
wotnargjonny_: gimme a link to the page your having trouble with?10:02
SurakAmaranth: Did I say correctly: are those the r300?10:02
jonny_ok, hold on10:02
AmaranthSurak: yeah, the 9600 is an r30010:02
AmaranthSurak: or r310 or something, basically the same thing10:02
Surakyes10:03
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jonny_http://www.wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:03
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corincolehey all10:03
mauriciowotnarg, applications>sound & video>music player10:03
corincolelinks http://localhost10:03
soxfunanyone has configured KMLDONKEY?10:03
wotnargjonny_: Ok. what command isnt breaking.10:03
wotnargmauricio: If you want to play a local file, the notation is: file:///directory/to/song/song.ogg :)10:04
jonny_there are 2 so far10:04
wotnargjonny_: I mean is breaking in above message ;)10:04
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mojo_howdy all!  I am setting up Ubuntu on a dual boot sys for my friend.  He wants to use NetZero dial-up (since he is too far out for dsl or cable).  NetZero offers .deb files for Linspire.  Will this work on Ubuntu?  Anyone have good exp. w/a dial-up and Ubuntu that compares rate-wise (9.95/mo) with local access no's in middle TN?10:04
richie_does nividia drivers work with all kernel versions?10:04
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corincolewhat command-line software is there for opening we pages?10:05
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corincolelinks, links2 and lynx arent working... unless im using them wrong...10:05
corincole?10:05
soxfuncornicole10:05
LasseLmojo_, I heard that linspire is partly based on ubuntu now, so there should be a chance10:05
dell500Amaranth, after installing the xorg-driver-fglrx should I reboot?10:05
soxfunyou can youse w3m10:05
mojo_LasseL: oh, that sounds promising!10:05
shutdownrunnercorincole: maybe you should apt-get links, links2 or lynx10:05
jonny_sudo apt-get install j2re1.410:05
corincoleok10:06
shutdownrunnercorincole:apt-get install of course:D10:06
corincolebrb10:06
LasseLjonny_, why get an old vm?10:06
corincolei know that lol10:06
soxfunw3m www.webpage.whatever10:06
jonny_what is a new one?10:06
chusonobody here got problems installing vmware on ubuntu freezy?10:06
chusos/freezy/breezy10:06
LasseLhehe10:06
soxfunjeje10:06
jonny_is that the right command?10:07
soxfunno  problems10:07
wotnargbrrr... that typo is cold.10:07
LasseL!java10:07
ubotujava is probably to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb10:07
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peritus21:56:26 <firstaid`nypon> ..10:07
soxfunjava sucks10:07
LasseLno sun sucks10:07
soxfunyes..... :)10:07
wotnargjonny_: You need to enable multiverse. Do you know how to enable repositories?10:07
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Lars_GHi all.10:08
jonny_no, but I know how to get to the repositories10:08
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jonny_im there10:08
Lars_GQuestion, in a debian/ubuntu source package, what file is the one that defines the options that will be passed to configure?10:08
soxfunjonny: nano /etc/apt/sources.list10:08
jonny_on command line?10:08
soxfunand then you put multiverse where you can see universe10:09
D1how is abiword compared to openoffice for basic word processing?10:09
sunshine82how do i unmute the mic in alsamixer10:09
wotnargjonny_: In sources.list? Ok, where you see a line with universe in it, uncomment it if its not already, and add multiverse to the end of the line.10:09
Suepahflyis there a 'upgrade' option in the install of 5.10 ?10:09
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ssamjonny_, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:09
ssamjonny_, its easier10:09
dell500Amaranth, after installing the xorg-driver-fglrx should I reboot?10:09
jonny_ok, hold on10:09
Amaranthdell500: no, just logging out and back in should do it10:09
KurtKrautSuepahfly, yes, but you should upgrade it installing the new version from scratch.10:09
LasseLsunshine82, the 'm' key?10:09
Amaranthdell500: otherwise log out, hit ctrl-alt-backspace, then login10:09
Amaranthdell500: just do that second one so you're sure you've got it10:09
KurtKrautSuepahfly, it avoids problems.10:10
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soxfunit's not easier... it's slower... :)10:10
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shutdownrunnerD1: abiword is much better. loads fast and has all the necessary features10:10
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bam_ok how do I install kde-desktop10:11
bam_rather un-install10:11
SuepahflyKurtKraut: so you are basicly telling me i have to spend another 2 days building, configing every thing after i install 5.10?10:11
D1I'm thinking of switching since I do light word processing10:11
koyodahello all, I wanted to ask if anybody could give me a link of an ubuntu repository?10:11
jonny_what do you mean by uncomment10:11
wotnargbam_: apt-get remove/install kubuntu-desktop < try that10:11
wotnargjonny_: If the like starts  with a #, remove it10:11
iiiears!repositories10:11
ubotusources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)10:11
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bam_cool10:11
wotnargjonny_: *line10:11
jonny_ok10:11
shutdownrunnerD1: just install abiword apart from openoffice,test it and enjoy10:11
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sunshine82lassel i still cant hear myself10:12
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iiiearskoyoda -  ^^^10:12
rikvaIs it recommended to use ReiserFS as filesystem for / and /home (at a new install)?10:12
sunshine82lassel my mic was workin before i dont know what to do10:12
ssamrikva, no10:12
wotnargrikva: Just use ext310:12
rikvawhy?10:12
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jonny_instead of universe, multiverse10:12
jonny_?10:12
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mauriciowotnarg, the link is not working10:12
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ssamrikva, they are generaly not considered as stable as ext310:13
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wotnargjonny_: No, add multiverse, not replace10:13
wotnargmauricio: What do you mean?10:13
rikvaok, thanks10:13
jonny_ok10:13
mauriciowotnarg, it didn't open10:13
ssamrikva, and its only slightly faster under a few conditions10:13
wotnargmauricio: Did you directly copy the link I showed you?10:13
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jonny_do I need to uncomment the following linus like it says?10:14
mauricioyes10:14
jonny_lines*10:14
wotnargjonny_: Yes.10:14
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jonny_ok10:14
wotnargmauricio: It was just an example link, you need to replace it with an actual file on your computer. :p10:14
GregAschewhat's wrong with this crontab line?10:14
GregAsche60/2 * * * * sudo ntpdate ntp0.mcs.anl.gov10:14
mauriciowotnarg, ok... thank you10:15
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jonny_ok, now what10:15
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sunshine82somethin weird jsut happen im tryi to sudo something and it say im not in the sudoer file how do i fix this10:15
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wotnargsunshine82: add your user to the admin group.10:16
pigeonfligh1How do I get OO.o 2 Docs working?10:16
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wotnargsunshine82: Which would require a user able to use sudo :p10:16
haseldensunshine82: are you logged in as a user other than the one you set up your machine with?10:16
wotnargpigeonfligh1: What do you mean? Open them?10:16
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fraggstaI'm compiling my own kernel using kernel-package since I need to in order to get VMWare running.  The question is, with kernel-package is there any way to package up the Nvidia drivers, rather than installing them manually?10:17
sunshine82i havent change computer i just did this sudo usermod -Gaudio sunshine10:17
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sunshine82how do i get mmyself back out10:18
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pigeonfligh1wotnarg: Yes10:18
Surakfraggstta: you really mean kernel-package or linux-source?10:18
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jonny_it still does not work!10:18
wotnargpigeonfligh1: Do you have openofffice.org2 installed?10:18
jonny_I get an error when I try10:18
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wotnargjonny_: in a terminal, do sudo apt-get update10:18
jonny_ok10:18
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pigeonfligh1wotnarg: I Have them apt-gotted but when I look at help in OO.o2 it says help could not be started10:19
frank23how do I use fakeroot with alien?10:19
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-WaWhat App Will play MPG files ?10:19
ssamScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa, xine, mplayer, vlc10:19
SurakScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: totem10:19
fraggstaSurak: Yes, I really mean kernel-package.  I'm watching it do make-kpkg modules_image kernel_image right now.10:19
wotnargpigeonfligh1: What is the error message?10:19
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ScOrPiO-DrUiD-WaVLC for Linux?10:19
jonny_even that does not work!10:19
wotnargfrank23: Just use sudo, its less hassle :p10:19
sunshine82any ideas i type this sudo usermod -Gaudio sunshine and now im getin im not in sudoer file how do i get back10:19
wotnargjonny_: What error message?10:20
[matrim] if there is a user that is using irssi via my server, is there is a way that i can send a message over that users irssi session?10:20
fraggstaSurak: Well, I used a kernel-source package to build with though.  I didn't download my kernel source from kernel.org if that's what you mean.10:20
jonny_hold on...let me type it10:20
bimberisunshine82: that command will remove you from any groups that you don't list (ie. admin).  You'll need to boot into recovery mode and "adduser sunshine admin"10:20
pigeonfligh1wotnarg: The Help system could not be started10:20
ssamScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa, yes vlc for linux :-)10:20
wotnargpigeonfligh1: Does the whole application not work, or just the help option?10:20
frank23wotnarg: I don't like to use sudo when I don't know exaclty what will happen10:20
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wotnargfrank23: It will generate a .deb package from an .rpm. Nothing else.10:21
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pigeonfligh1wotnarg: Just Help10:21
P8ntKidWhere is the defualt menu file for fluxbox in ubuntu? I think its in some kind of x11 folder.10:21
frank23wotnarg: the why does it need sudo to do that?10:21
wotnargfrank23: Frankly, I don't know.10:21
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frank23wotnarg: exactly ;-)10:21
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wotnargfrank23: But its not going to take over your system, or hack you. :p10:22
wotnargpigeonfligh1: Hrm. I'm not sure. You can still open the file though, right?10:22
jonny_E: 'Uncomment' is not known on line 12 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list10:22
frank23wotnarg: I just tried fakeroot alien file.rpm and it seems to be working10:22
pigeonfligh1wotnarg: Which file?10:22
wotnargjonny_: You actually typed uncomment in the file?10:23
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Waif im on Ubuntu 5.10 do i want the .Deb vlc file10:23
dell500how do  you check to see if fglrx is working? like fglrx-gears/10:23
wotnargfrank23: Thats good then :)10:23
pigeonfligh1wotnarg: When I looked the OO.o docs were not installed so I apt-got them10:23
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pigeonfligh1Restarted OO.o Restarted Ubuntu Restarted the Machine10:23
jonny_no10:23
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wotnargpigeonfligh1: oh, I misunderstood the original question. I thought you ment you couldn't open a .odt file :p10:23
frank23ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: intsall vlc with synaptic. not from a random deb you download10:23
pigeonfligh1Still getting the same error10:23
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pigeonfligh1:-)10:23
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pigeonfligh1wotnarg: great being on the same page ;-)10:24
dell500Amaranth, how do you  check to see if fglrx works?10:24
wotnargjonny_: paste your sources.list file in paste.ubuntu.org10:24
Amaranthdell500: try running a game10:24
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Waso VLC is already on the PC i just need to install it ?10:24
jonny_I typed " sudo apt-get update10:24
dell500Amaranth,  like?10:24
jonny_ok10:24
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hedonickdell500: or run a opengl based xscreensaver (some can be set up to show fps as well)10:25
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wotnargpigeonfligh1: I can't really help you then, sorry :/10:25
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frank23ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: synaptic will download from the internet for you. You have to enable universe in synaptic though10:25
jonny_paste.ubuntu.org is invalid?!?!?10:25
frank23!tell ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa about sources10:25
wotnargjonny_: paste.ubuntu.us10:26
pigeonfligh1wotnarg: Cool Who can?10:26
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[Phaedrus] hello y'all10:26
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jonny_ok10:26
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wotnargpigeonfligh1: Ask again in the channel? *shrug*10:26
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wawhat is a Universe ?10:26
wotnargpigeonfligh1: Try #openoffice.org10:26
pigeonfligh1How do I get OO.o 2 Docs working?10:26
bimberipigeonfligh1: iirc, you have to install openoffice.org-help-en (or the like) to activate help inOOo10:26
pigeonfligh1They are a tad silent :)10:26
metalsandbesides apt-get update, what are the other cmds that update Ubuntu?10:26
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frank23ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: look at the link ubotu sent you10:26
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pigeonfligh1bimberi: What if I have already?10:26
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wak10:26
haseldenmetalsand apt-get dist-upgrade10:27
wotnargmetalsand: apt-get upgrade brings the packages up to date.10:27
pigeonfligh1metalsand: apt-get dist-upgrade10:27
frank23ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: universe is a repository for synaptic to use to get more programs10:27
bimberipigeonfligh1: then that's not the problem10:27
metalsandAh, thanks much :D10:27
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pigeonfligh1Oh whats gam_server?10:27
wotnargjonny_: You do that? Then paste the address of the page in here.10:27
[Phaedrus] i have a question, a little divergent from Ubuntu though: Do Wifi Cards work with Wimax?10:27
dell500ya, it doesn't seem to be working... do i need to change the driver in xorg.conf to fglrx?10:27
patrickjhttp://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8460/ubuntuwall17ii.png10:28
jonny_that takes me to domail.discount24.com or something!10:28
fraggstapigeonfligh1: I don't know but every now and then it goes psycho and takes up 99% CPU time on my machine.  You can safely kill it, it seems.10:28
patrickjmy contribution to the ubuntu project :P10:28
jonny_domain*10:28
pigeonfligh1fraggsta: You too?10:28
thrush!paste10:28
ubotufrom memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text10:28
wotnargjonny_: heh, see ubotus message.10:28
thrushjonny_: ^ try that one10:28
fraggstapigeonfligh1: well it used to, I haven't seen it do that since upgrading to breezy though10:28
wotnargsheesh... 2 bad paste urls in a row. I need to learn my pastebin urls better :p10:29
jonny_wich one?10:29
jonny_nevermind10:29
bimberipigeonfligh1: try running oowriter2 from a terminal and seeing if an error pops up when you access the help10:29
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nubuntuI installed VLC media player, and it works fine, BUT I dont get any sound. Unable to fix it. Help here?10:29
eliphas_evening10:30
sunshine82im tryin to test my alsa and im gettin this error ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream10:30
sunshine82 what doe sit mean and how do i fisx thisn10:30
mojo_Hi again.  my friend is shy of signing up with NetZero w/o being *sure* the .debs for linspire will work on Ubuntu.  Anyone on high-speed dial-up with *ANY* provider that *IS* working with Ubuntu 100%??  I realize vanilla dialup will work almost universally, but I mean with an accellerator.  Any takers?10:30
Suepahflyhow smart is to do pat-get dist-upgrade with bdager repo's on a hoary system?10:30
Suepahflyapt*10:30
robbkiddAnyone else getting bzip2 integrity errors on Universe's Packages.gz?10:30
patrickjwho here likes me wallpapa?10:30
eliphas_how can I make my term to show all the directories and hidden files when I type ls ?10:30
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eliphas_or dir10:31
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robbkiddeliphas: ls -a10:31
eliphas_oh yes baby10:31
eliphas_thanks10:31
fraggstaSuepahfly: Well, that will upgrade it to breezy if that's what you mean..It might break along the way and you may have to "apt-get -f install", or maybe even manually fix dependencies with dpkg.  But it should be possible.10:31
thrushnubuntu: do you have any sound? like when gnome starts?10:31
jonny_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/360710:31
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nubuntuthrush, yeah I have xmms working fine10:31
[Phaedrus] Do Wifi Cards work with Wimax?10:31
jonny_BTW im running breezy if that matters10:31
wotnargmojo_: High speed dialup is largely marketing crap, just fyi :p10:31
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D1wow10:32
sunshine82does anyone know about alsa10:32
D1abiword is smoooooooooth10:32
eventualbuddhai'm having a problem with one of my servers. i removed the network cable and then put it back in, and now i can't access the internet. there were other (firewall) changes too, but i don't think that affected it. any ideas?10:32
Amaranthompaul: come back for a minute please10:32
qt2Is there a program like "virtual audio cables" for linux? Virtual audio cables allows you to take the audio output from one program, and use it as the input for another program, for example, form skype, to a recording program.10:32
[Phaedrus] wotnarg: high speed dialup eh?10:32
ompaulAmaranth, k10:32
Suepahflywell i will find out after 1 hour downing an installing :)10:32
Surakeventualbuddha - mii-tool10:32
shutdownrunnerSuepahfly: just install breezy. I have only got hoary install cd. I install hoary then upgrade to breezy and everything works fine10:32
KurtKrauteventualbuddha, have you tried to undo the last firewall changes ?10:32
tom__Sys_Error: SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual what does this mean and how can i fix it?10:32
wotnarg[Phaedrus] : hrm?10:32
tom__trying to run quake410:33
Surakqt2: like piping the /dev/pcm ?10:33
[Phaedrus] wotnarg: just curious which fella is using "high speed dialup" as a marketing term10:33
XenguyHi - I have some output I'd like to run by the Developers if possible - a GPG-key error when I attempt to apt-get update...10:33
XenguyW: GPG error: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>10:33
tom__im installing the different sdl packages but i don't really know what im doing10:33
XenguyW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems10:33
thrushnubuntu: options in vlc make sure esd is selected for sound10:33
sunshine82i need to record adn paly alsa but im getin this error ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream10:33
hedonickqt2: I know one program that kindof does that (not from one program to the other... but it records the output on the sound device)... it's vsound10:33
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jonny_wotnarg, did you get that?10:33
eventualbuddhaKurtKraut: no10:33
wotnarg[Phaedrus] : Just in general :p You can't accelerate dialup except by compression, cache, etc.10:33
XenguyDoes anyone know what that output means/implies ?10:33
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ScOrPiO-DrUiD-WaVLC is not on the SYS10:34
nubuntuthrush, ok10:34
qt2Surak, yeah, pretty much.10:34
wotnargjonny_: Get what? Did you post the url?10:34
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qt2hedonick, thanks, i'll look into it.10:34
fraggstatom__: try installing libsdl1.2debian-alsa10:34
bimberi!gpgerr10:34
ubotuIf you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.10:34
Suepahflyshutdownrunner: it took me 2 days installing breezy, so i'm willing to try a shortcut10:34
KurtKrauteventualbuddha, just try to do that to check if the problem is beeing caused by your last firewall changes. This is the most probable source.10:34
jonny_yes I will again:10:34
jonny_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/360710:34
qt2Surak, although, i believe skype on linux uses /dev/dsp for both input and output.10:34
ProN00bcan i somehow open a terminal to my com-port ?10:34
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Surakdsp, sorry10:34
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shutdownrunnerSuepahfly: what do you mean by 2 days? downloading or problems with upgrading?10:35
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garychey folks10:35
wotnargjonny_: add a # before any line that does not start with 'deb'10:35
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tom__do i need to restart or anything after i've installed that library?10:35
nubuntuthrush, whats esd. Cannot see that one. And Audio output frequncy was set to -1. What?10:35
eventualbuddhaKurtKraut: k, will try back in a bit10:35
garycdoes anyone have a minute to check my ftp server10:35
jonny_ok10:35
bimberiProN00b: a program like minicom can do that10:35
Suepahflyshutdownrunner: installing, building, finding the required libs, and so on10:35
KurtKrautgaryc, if it accepts connection ? Just say the addres or Ip and the port.10:35
fraggstatom__: no, is it still crashing?10:36
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tom__Sys_Error: SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual same thing10:36
whiskasHello.10:36
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Xenguyftpmaster@ubuntu.com  <-- would this person happen to be around by any chance ?10:36
fraggstatom__: well, is your 3D card set up properly?10:36
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bimberiubotu tell Xenguy about gpgerr10:37
tom__i don't know i've left it how it was when i installed ubuntu10:37
whiskasHey folks, can I jump in with a Radeon problem, as well?10:37
wotnarggaryc: I will if no one else.10:37
tom__do i need to do other things?10:37
garycwotnarg, , ip=68.90.183.219   user=agora  pass=agoramin10:37
fraggstatom__: is it an ATi or Nvidia?10:37
tom__ati10:37
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tom__9800pro10:37
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chaosblueGREAT.  Now it's not seeing eth0 at all.  >_<10:37
whiskas3D acceleration works like a charm, XVideo same, but 2D is so damn slooooow.10:37
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whiskasAnyone experiencing this?10:37
whiskasI've tried both the OS driver and fglrx.10:38
GloXok, I solved my monitor problem by adding vga=771 to the boot parameters, is there anything I should do to get it work when I don't use the cd too ?10:38
sunshine82when i arecord test.wav i get this error ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream10:38
sunshine82 what does it mean10:38
fraggstatom__: I think this should solve it..."sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`" - you'll need to reboot after doing that10:38
garycwotnarg, tell me if you see other folders or jus your home folder10:38
eventualbuddhaKurtKraut: it was my stupidity: i plugged the cable into the wrong ethernet port :)10:38
thrushnubuntu: sorry not on linux box right now.  maybe someone else can help you out configuring vlc10:38
shutdownrunnerSuepahlfy: building? in breezy? what for? why? it installs without any major glitches10:38
KurtKrauteventualbuddha, it may happen to everyone ;D10:38
ProN00bbimberi, ok, can you give me an example how the command would look like ?10:38
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crimsunnubuntu: please install vlc-plugin-alsa10:39
Xenguybimberi: tx - I have another question.  I have a friend who's chkrootkit reported a problem with '/usr/bin/find'.  We compared md5sums and mine doesn't match his, yet we are both running Breezy.  Any idea how this can be?10:39
bimberiProN00b: er, "minicom" (once it's installed) - but then CTRL-A Z to get help on configuration10:39
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sunshine82ahhh10:39
fraggstaXenguy: maybe one of you upgraded to a newer version?10:40
nubuntucrimsun, ok10:40
wotnarggaryc: Nothing in it right now10:40
crimsunnubuntu: then in the preferences, check advanced options then choose alsa for the audio driver10:40
ProN00bbimberi, its just that it looks kinda hard...10:40
jonny_wotnarg: can you just post ehat it should be and ill copy that?10:40
garycwotnarg, are you in10:40
jonny_it wont let me type anything!10:40
Xenguyfraggsta: I'm just not sure how that can happen if we are both updated to Breezy10:40
sunshine82where do i go to get help with alsa10:40
wotnargjonny_: Ok.10:40
garycwotnarg, it is just empty10:40
wotnarggaryc: Yes.10:40
bimberiXenguy: someone reported that the other day too (can't recall the nick)10:41
uihow do i insstall this? :   install.jar10:41
fraggstaXenguy: if one of you has done apt-get upgrade recently and the other hasn't, and it upgraded whatever package has find in it10:41
tom__fraggsta how do i execute that command when i press enter it just drops down a line10:41
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garycwotnarg, can you do an up dir to parent or are you locked in that folder10:41
Xenguybimberi: Do you think it is anything to be concerned about?10:41
fraggstatom__: copy and paste it, it works fine here10:41
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wotnargjonny_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/360810:42
jonny_thx10:42
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bimberiXenguy: i can't say no, but don't know for sure sorry10:42
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wotnarggaryc: Im locked in konq at least.10:42
tom__sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`" is this correct am i missing anytthing off it?10:42
Xenguybimberi: tx for the feedback10:42
jonny_it wont let me use any of the letters or numbers in that list! I can ctrl+a but not any letters or even backspace!10:42
bimberiXenguy: yw10:42
fraggstatom__: yes, tehre shouldn't be any " characters in it :)10:42
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garycwotnarg, do you mind doing a makdir just to see if you can creat a folder  -- maybe put something there10:43
nubuntucrimsun, is that vlc-preferences-advanced-other-channel mixer?10:43
wotnarggaryc: Ok.10:43
GorgaporI've been having problems getting Eclipse to work in ubuntu, can anyone help me?10:43
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bimberiProN00b: have a play with it, <CTRL>A O will get you to the configuration stuff10:43
crimsunnubuntu: no, should be first option10:43
kingtightis the a way to update to 5.10 from 5.04 with out the lost of data?10:43
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fraggstatom__: should just be sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`10:43
nubuntuok10:43
thrushkingtight: yes but dont do it10:44
wotnarggaryc: Ok, I make a folder and a file.10:44
kingtighty is that?10:44
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tom__linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386 is already the newest version.10:44
tom__0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.10:44
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tom__that means that it had already been done?10:44
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thrushkingtight: u could lose data10:44
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thrushkingtight: ;)10:45
nubuntucrimsun, well there is no first option :|10:45
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kingtightthat sucks worked so hard to install all the stuff i wanted on this10:45
wotnarggaryc: Bleh, pardon my grammar, I'm tired :p Anything else I should do?10:45
jcharettehi everyone, trying out Ubuntu.  Usually use Gentoo or fedora10:45
jonny_wotnarg, it wont let me backspace or anything!10:45
wotnargjonny_: Where?10:45
qt2hedonick, ah, see, that is only half a solution for me, as it only records the output half(the other caler) and not the input half(the stuff coming from my mic)...10:45
jonny_in sources.list10:46
crimsunnubuntu: sure there is. It's the top one for Audio10:46
bimberihi jcharette10:46
fraggstatom__: there should be a page in the Ubuntu guide somewhere on what to do once the driver is installed, I just can't find it..10:46
budluvausing dvdshrink to copy a dvd to fit on a 4.7gig disk, just compresses the movie right? is the compression going to screw with the resolution? like will i be able to see the difference between the original and the backup?10:46
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tom__ok ill take a look is that on the wiki page?10:46
sunshine82please help me somebody what does this mean ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream10:46
sunshine82 howdf o i get the other one that record and play10:46
fraggstatom__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI10:46
thrushkingtight: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change hoary to breezy then apt-get update then distupgrade10:46
jonny_do you know what the problem is?10:46
nubuntucrimsun, enable audio I see... and audio output volume10:47
robbkiddOokay. The US package archive is killing me with bzip errors and bad headers.10:47
garycwotnarg, hey I see the test folder   thanks  -  I am happy with that10:47
jcharetteI take it this is the best way to get support?10:47
fraggstatom__: only where it says /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 you should use /etc/X11/xorg.conf instead10:47
wotnarggaryc: Ok ,I added a random image file too, so as far as i can tell, everything works. Anything else, or should I log out?10:47
tom__so it stills applies to breezy?10:47
garycwotnarg, I had to log in as agora to view it,  that what took me so long10:47
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wotnarggaryc: ah, I see.10:48
sunshine82just tell me where i can go fro help then10:48
jonny_should I restart my computer?10:48
_native_paging DR. Watson10:48
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wotnarggaryc: err... doesn't root have access to the ftp filesystem?10:48
fraggstatom__: well breezy uses X.Org, and I can't see anything in there that would be different in Breezy10:48
wotnarggaryc: Or did you not bother10:48
Gorgapori've been having some trouble installing eclipse in ubuntu, can anyone help me?10:48
bimberijcharette: sometimes it is :) but there's also forums (ubuntuforums.org) and a mailing list (lists.ubuntu.com)10:48
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jcharettecool, thanks bimberi10:48
garycwotnarg, I wanted to jail the user in his own folder10:48
bimberijcharette: yw :)10:48
wotnarggaryc: *nod* Ok, I'm logged out. Enjoy.10:49
hyperzhello , how do i run/install as a superuser plzz ??10:49
jonny_wotnarg,should I10:49
Discipulussudo10:49
garycwotnarg, It looks like it works10:49
wotnarghyperz: sudo command10:49
fraggstadamn it takes ages to compile a kernel now..the default is to have just about EVERYTHING as a module.. :|10:49
mindmedichyperz, look in the wiki... search for sudo10:49
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tom__is hoary a previous version of ubuntu?10:50
hyperzeuhh , what is wiki ? im kinda new in linux :s10:50
iiiearsfraggsta - I had to back up my first try at compiling a kernel to DVD!!!  - lol10:50
jonny_tom yes10:50
bimberitom__: yes (5.04)10:50
iiiearsj/k10:50
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sunshine82 what does this mean ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream10:50
sunshine82when i arecord test.wav i get this error ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream10:50
kingtightok now how do i do that once more?10:50
garycwotnarg, I am not using anonymous ftp.  I just want specific users to have a web folder to share data and stuff10:50
haseldenhyperz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/10:51
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sunshine82how do i change thisa10:51
wotnarggaryc: I figured it wasnt anonymous when I had to log in :p10:51
richie_what repro is build-essensial in?10:51
thrushrichie_: should be universe10:51
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jonny_WOTNARG: WHAT DO i DO?10:51
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rexykikcan anyone link me to the ubuntu thin client guide?10:52
rexykikjonny_, please turn off the caps10:52
garycwotnarg, Thank you for the test.  I just now reloaded with 5.10  was on 5.04 til today10:52
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iiiears!thin10:52
ubotuiiiears: What?10:52
wotnargjonny_: paste the file from the link to your sources.list, then apt-get update10:52
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iiiears!thinclient10:52
ubotuWish i knew, iiiears10:52
Sturmkraehehowdy10:52
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wotnarggaryc: No problem. Adios.10:52
jonny_oh! sorry, I did not realize!10:52
pigeonfligh1Hooray Dapper :)10:52
hyperzthx haselden , ill have a look there :)10:52
pigeonfligh1!dhcp10:53
ubotupigeonfligh1: Wish i knew10:53
garycwotnarg, buy the way, is it possible to upgrade 5.04 to 5.1 without reloading10:53
bimberikingtight: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade10:53
pigeonfligh1!openoffice10:53
ubotupigeonfligh1: Did you get hit by a windmill?10:53
jonny_I can not delete or type anything in my sources.list, though10:53
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nalioth_zZzjonny_: use sudo10:53
iiiears"Thin is in!"     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto10:53
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pigeonfligh1jonny_: open it with sudo10:53
bur[n] er!breezyupgrade10:54
rexykikiiiears, thanks a bunch10:54
ubotuit has been said that breezyupgrade is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade10:54
jonny_err...sudo /etc/apy/sources.list?10:54
bur[n] erthere you go garyc10:54
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iiiears!ubotu thin client is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto10:54
ubotuiiiears: okay10:54
jonny_*apt?10:54
garycbimberi, was that my answer10:54
bur[n] eriiiears: u can do that in a private message ;)10:54
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bur[n] eranyone tried compiling rhythmbox 0.9.1 yet??10:54
=== bur[n] er would be happy to test a package ;)
garycbimberi, buy the way, is it possible to upgrade 5.04 to 5.1 without reloading10:54
wotnarggaryc: I didn't bother, but yes. It can be error-ridden though10:54
jonny_pigeonflight: sudo /etc/apt/sources.list?10:55
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Zealot87how do i ping a website?10:55
dell500does anyone know how to get gallery to reinstall?10:55
=== bur[n] er wasn't error ridden when upgrading
bimberigaryc: possibly, but i don't know what you mean by reloading. reinstalling?10:55
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tarheelcoxnZealot87: man ping10:55
cevizoglubur[n] er, what do you mean yet?  I installed it, no reason to compile10:55
hedonickZealot87: not all websites responds to pings though10:55
bur[n] ercevizoglu: .9.1??  from where?10:55
jonny_how do i open sources.list wit sudo?10:56
Zealot87then after man ping, do i enter the website?10:56
_native_sudo nano sources.list10:56
bur[n] ercevizoglu: .9 is in breezy... .9.1 was just released recently10:56
bimberigaryc: you don't have to reinstall, but you must reload repositories as part of the process10:56
thrushjonny_: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:56
fraggstaZealot87: no, "man ping" is THE MANUAL, which will tell you how to use it.10:56
sunshine82anyone free to help me yet10:56
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cevizoglubur[n] er, i c10:56
tom__fraggsta so im just changing the driver "ati" part to fglrx?10:57
fraggstatom__: yup10:57
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garycbimberi, yes I just reinstalled with a full wipe and re-partition today and I am back up to speed10:57
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bimberigaryc: k :)10:57
Fraiserhello10:57
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kingtighthello Fraiser10:57
cevizoglubur[n] er, why, is there a nicer feature in .9.1?10:57
garycbimberi, thought I might have done it wrong -  that the upgrade is better10:57
bur[n] ercevizoglu: several :)10:58
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Zealot87uhh i still dont get how to use ping10:58
jonny_still there...wotnarg?10:58
Zealot87i have a website, and i want to ping it, what would i enter10:58
orgI made a big problem.10:58
_native_man ping10:58
wotnargjonny_: Yes.10:58
bimberigaryc: not at all, if a clean install is possible it's usually the best option :)10:58
orgMy problem was, that i gave my young brother a connection from my internet10:58
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organd now he's making my internet slow, damn.10:58
_native_sudo ping -c5 url10:58
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garycbimberi, wotnarg said upgrade is flaky10:58
orgCan't i just limit him?10:58
jonny_ok, so I did that and "apt-get update" does not work10:59
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bimberigaryc: i can only agree - i've had some problems myself10:59
Zealot87_native_, that doesnt help me, it just gives a bunch of letters and says that they do all this crazy stuff, no where in the manual does it say, to ping a website, do this:10:59
_native_yes you can limit him if you have a router10:59
kbrooksI use mouse numpad emulation under X. At gdm, it is fast, but not in gnome. Why?10:59
_native_sudo ping -c5 url10:59
wotnarggaryc: Can be. Or not. it just depends.10:59
sunshine82when i arecord test.wav i get this error ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream10:59
jonny_wotnarg  I did that and "apt-get update" does not work10:59
wotnargjonny_: What doesnt work?10:59
garycbimberi, It took about 2 hours to get back to full speed on the complete re-install10:59
sunshine82how do i change this10:59
jonny_an error comes up10:59
wotnargjonny_: What error?11:00
hyperzwhen i use this -> "sudo -e file eta.run" <-11:00
hyperzcommand with sudo i can type a password but when i try to type NO letters apear :'( , what do i do now ??11:00
bimberigaryc: definitely a good option for you then :)11:00
Stormx2OK11:00
_native_Zealot87: sudo ping -c5 website11:00
Stormx2Im now gonna stay on ubuntu perminantly11:00
wotnarghyperz: Its so people cant see your password. Just ignore it11:00
bur[n] ercevizoglu: check yer msgs11:00
naliothhyperz: no characters will appear for your security11:00
hyperzk11:00
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thrushjonny_: 99% of time when happens to me its because I mistyped a url in sources11:00
Stormx2It is actually a whole lot better for web dev11:00
garycbimberi, bummer though - my cdrw still wont burn - do you remember me working on that?11:00
bur[n] erStormx2: gftp is lacking for me :\11:00
Zealot87_native_, ok thanks11:01
_native_np11:01
Stormx2bur[n] er: me too11:01
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Stormx2bur[n] er: But guess what! Places > Connect to server11:01
bur[n] erStormx2: other than that small thing, i totally agree11:01
jonny_see this for errors:http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/361011:01
Stormx2bur[n] er: Then you can browse FTP in a drag + drop environment11:01
bur[n] erStormx2: very true... just not what i'm used to ;)11:01
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shutdownrunnerbur[n] er: try tuxcmd11:01
jonny_ see this for errors: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/361011:01
=== bur[n] er just wants DnD for gftp
Stormx2bur[n] er: gFTP does lack a lot11:01
shutdownrunnerit's not in rep, but you can install it quickly11:01
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Stormx2bur[n] er: But if you do connect to server, it is handled in nautilus, so it is uber-handy11:02
aclonedsheep2 /join #birdsofprey11:02
garycbimberi, cyberdrive cw068d reads fine but wont burn11:02
_native_well then get coding or requesting features.11:02
_native_;-] 11:02
bur[n] ershutdownrunner: looks like emelfm, gentoo, and all the other mc clones ;)11:02
jonny_how do you make it red so the oerson your typing to can see it in red?11:02
wotnargjonny_: I have to go, other people will help you Im sure.11:02
aclonedsheep2finally on my universitys vpn/wireless w00t11:02
bimberigaryc: yeah, i don't have anything startlingly new for you though :/11:02
jonny_ok11:02
shutdownrunnerbur[n] er:but it works11:02
ScOrPiO-DrUiD-WaHow Do I MAP A NETWORK DRIVE?11:02
wotnargjonny_: You say thier name in your message.11:02
bur[n] ershutdownrunner: it does ftp?  screenshots don't show that11:02
haseldenScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: places > network servers11:02
Gorgaporjonny_, if the other person is using X-Chat, you just say their name.11:02
Gorgapordarn beat me to it11:03
jonny_oh, is it red when I type to you11:03
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jonny_?11:03
hyperzVerifying archive integrity... All good.11:03
hyperzUncompressing Enemy Territory 2.55...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................11:03
hyperzIt is recommended to install as the super user11:03
hyperzPlease enter the root password or hit enter to continue as is11:03
hyperzPassword:11:03
hyperzsu: Authentication failure11:03
shutdownrunnerbur[n] er: it does. I've tested it11:03
hyperzSorry.11:03
hyperzThis installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / x86_6411:03
hyperz(tried to run setup)11:03
hyperzSee http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/ for troubleshooting11:03
hyperzThe setup program seems to have failed on x86_64/glibc-2.011:03
shutdownrunnerit's almost like total comander11:03
hyperzSee http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/ for troubleshooting11:03
hyperzwhat i get now :sss11:03
naliothhyperz: please dont paste in here11:03
jonny_like, does this work, Gorgapor11:03
bur[n] erblah, quit pasting11:03
hyperzwith good pass (i think)11:03
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wotnarghyperz: Dont paste in channel, do in #paste or a pastebin11:03
hyperzsry11:03
Gorgaporyes, it was red, jonny_11:03
shutdownrunnerI mean functionality11:03
Subliminalcould somebody help me figure out, why since i upgraded to breezy firefox has become really unstable?11:03
jonny_cool!11:03
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bur[n] ershutdownrunner: but it doesn't do ftp!11:03
_native_jonny is your question answered11:04
GorgaporSubliminal, i've noticed firefox crashing occasionally too11:04
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SubliminalGorgapor: www.radiotimes.com seems to be a killer for me, every time11:04
Stormx2Subliminal: Try uninstalling & reinstalling11:04
haseldenSubliminal: i too have noticed issues with firefox11:04
Gorgaporlemme try it out11:04
haseldenalthough i'm pretty stable on the new beta11:04
haseldenand it runs faster11:04
SubliminalStormx2: just tried that :-/11:04
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hyperzbut is there a default pass for super user ?11:04
_native_jonny: did you sudo apt-get update or just apt-get update?11:04
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shutdownrunnerbur[n] er: it does. I don't have it installed now(fresh ubuntu install), but when I tested it 2 weeks ago it had all the ftp support you need11:04
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=== bur[n] er tries out radiotimes.com
Subliminalhaselden: did you have to compile the source?11:05
wotnarghyperz: sudo only works for the user you made when you installed.11:05
jonny_so I am trying to "apt-get update" and I get these errors:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/361011:05
kbrooksI use mouse numpad emulation under X. At gdm, it is fast, but not in gnome. Why?11:05
GloXI selected some wrong resolutions for X during the install, is there any way to add / remove more ?11:05
bur[n] ershutdownrunner: ftp bookmarking with password saving?11:05
bur[n] er:)11:05
_native_jonny: did you sudo apt-get update or just apt-get update?11:05
haseldenSubliminal: no11:05
jonny_does anyone know what to do?11:05
kbrooksand hilight me please!11:05
sunshine82hello11:05
haseldenSubliminal: looking for the link...one sec11:05
kbrooksI use mouse numpad emulation under X. At gdm, it is fast, but not in gnome. Why?11:05
kbrooksI use mouse numpad emulation under X. At gdm, it is fast, but not in gnome. Why?11:05
bur[n] erradiotimes.com seems ok to me11:05
Stormx2radiotimes.com works fine for me11:05
shutdownrunnerbur[n] er: just give me a moment if you want screenshots11:05
_native_jonny: did you:  sudo apt-get update or just:  apt-get update?11:05
wotnargkbrooks: WM hasn't loaded yet in gdm?11:05
Subliminalit crashes for me everytime :-/11:05
jonny_just apt-get update11:06
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haseldenSubliminal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:06
kbrookswotnarg: gdm login screen i mean11:06
Subliminalhaselden: thx11:06
Stormx2use sudo apt-get update11:06
bur[n] ershutdownrunner: not in ubuntu!!! ;)11:06
_native_jonny sudo apt-get update thats the answer11:06
qt2err, does anyone know if soxmix is included in the sox package?11:06
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freeloaderdoes anyone know how I would go about my business to get anjuta to let me use syntax highlighting for other languages?11:06
jonny_thanks11:06
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shutdownrunnerbur[n] er: you're not afraid of ./configure, are you?11:06
to2good evening11:06
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_native_permimsion denied means you need to use sudo before the command your trying to do.11:07
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Stormx2usually11:07
_native_usually11:07
Stormx2^_^11:07
to2one short question, please ...11:07
bur[n] ershutdownrunner: i haven't had good luck with rhythmbox 0.9.1 or amarok 1.3.5 so far today :\11:07
GorgaporSubliminal, i just browsed around that site and didn't have any problems11:07
shutdownrunnerbur[n] er:maybe I'll do a package for ubuntu one day11:07
jonny_how is breezy better than hoary?11:07
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kbrookswotnarg: well?11:07
shutdownrunnerrhythmbox: works fine for me. I don't like amarok. too kdeish11:07
Stormx2jonny_: it is faster, more stable, more sexy, and better equiped11:07
jonny_oh11:07
_native_well its supported and it has new features11:07
naliothbur[n] er: if you would like some note comparison, join #kubuntu-offtopic (i compiled amarok 1.3.5 yesterday)11:07
bur[n] erkde bugs me, but amarok is the best of breed11:07
wotnargkbrooks: yea. The gnome window manager doesn't load until you log into gnome. Thats the only thing I can think of.11:07
_native_yes11:08
SubliminalGorgapor: :-/ are you running the mozilla.org version?11:08
wotnargkbrooks: Its probably a setting in accessability.11:08
GorgaporSubliminal, no, just firefox 1.0.711:08
bur[n] ernalioth: already got a package? ;)  I'll test it out11:08
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kbrookswotnarg: no, its X11:08
to2have s.o. here installed the nvidia driver with 'ubuntu-breezy' with the card: GeForce2 Ti ????11:08
SubliminalGorgapor: must be something to do with my system11:08
SubliminalGorgapor: :-(11:09
to2no chance to find any solution!11:09
HusioHi, i Have problems with conf. my LAN ---> Ubuntu server and 4 others comp.11:09
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wotnargkbrooks: ?11:09
SubliminalGorgapor: whenever i go on it, firefox will get so far and then completely freeze11:09
Husiosome instructions how to configurate? ubuntu 5.10 ;] 11:09
kbrookswotnarg: shift + numlock.11:09
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wotnargkbrooks: What is shift + numlock, the mousekeys?11:10
_native_Husio could you paste your errors or probs in the http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/11:10
kbrookswotnarg: yeah11:10
kbrookswotnarg: its fucking  slow11:11
wotnargkbrooks: ok... so what?11:11
wotnargkbrooks: yea, speed is probably a gnome setting11:11
jonny_can you run KDE in warty?11:11
kbrookswotnarg: no11:11
kbrooksi said its X11:11
Stormx2Surely its gnome?11:11
_native_upgrade for sure jonny_11:11
XenguyHi - can someone running Breezy please give me their output from this -> md5sum /usr/bin/find11:11
_native_its easy11:11
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kbrooksStormx2: test shift + numlock, numpad keys (numbers) move the mouse11:12
frank235b7f2cac9527a6e82b781460f771dc58  /usr/bin/find11:12
Stormx2ea7e2c9c8ac4d78614350de40d6c4b03  /usr/bin/find11:12
frank23(i386)11:12
tom__got the graphics working just need to sort out the audio now11:12
Stormx2same11:12
peritusea7e2c9c8ac4d78614350de40d6c4b03  /usr/bin/find11:12
XenguyThanks all11:12
peritusi38611:12
_native_my guess is that it would be best to enter runlevel 3 or 1 and do a dist-upgrade11:12
hedonickea7e2c9c8ac4d78614350de40d6c4b0311:12
roehey all, new to ubunto here, can anyone give me some pointers on getting dvd play back to work11:12
hedonickhere to11:12
haseldenea7e2c9c8ac4d78614350de40d6c4b03  /usr/bin/find11:12
_native_cause my dist-upgrade failed in runlevel 511:12
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frank23Stormx2: peritus why is mine different>?11:12
Stormx2that seems to be the popular option11:13
Stormx2frank23: I have absolutely no idea11:13
naliothubotu: tell roe about dvd11:13
to2.... think my question is going under  ...11:13
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Amaranthfrank23: amd64 or ppc?11:13
naliothkurtkraut: please turn that off11:13
frank23Amaranth: i386 like the others11:13
to2noonme has a nvidia GeForce2 Ti ????11:13
Amaranthto2: you need to to use legacy package11:13
_native_breezy or hoary? frank2311:13
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Amaranthfrank23: you've been rooted :P11:14
Stormx2frank23: Don't worry. If you havn't got problems it is of no concieuqence11:14
frank23breezy11:14
to2Amaranth, where i can fetch them??11:14
jonny__native_ I already upgraded, I was just curious11:14
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_native_well if ubuntu included a better security configuration root would be alot harder to get11:14
Amaranth!+info nvidia-glx-legacy11:14
ubotunvidia-glx-legacy: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 1.0.7174-0ubuntu25 (breezy), Packaged size: 2985 kB, Installed size: 9760 kB11:14
sambagirlhello11:15
_native_i have to spend 10 minutes just adding basic config changes to get it somewhat secure11:15
naliothAmaranth: you're talking too loud, and woke me up11:15
sambagirlnow i am sing open office are there templates avaiable for the draw application?11:15
sambagirlusing not sing11:15
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frank23what package is find in?11:15
Subliminalcould somebody help me fix mplayer, it's gone really slooooow since i upgraded to breezy11:16
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iiiears_native_ - do you have an URL?11:16
_native_for what?11:16
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iiiearsimproving security?11:16
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_native_i have many bookmarks11:17
woland_http://www.ie.openbsd.org11:17
iiiearsAw, okay..11:17
_native_the debian harden doc package helps11:17
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Amaranthnalioth: hehe11:17
_native_i think its included in ubuntu11:17
koriowhenever i move a window i see theese black squares in it11:17
koriowhats up with that?11:17
iiiears_native_ - Thanks i'll take a look.11:17
_native_maybe i cant remember11:17
Segrohi, i need some help with the libdvdcss2 file. can't find it with apt-get.11:18
_native_im sick : Flu11:18
to2ubotu, thanks for that hint!11:18
ubotuno problem, to211:18
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_native_:-0...11:18
koriowhats up with that?11:18
koriowhenever i move a window i see theese black squares in it11:18
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thrusheww11:19
iiiears_native_ It's there - Thanks again.11:19
tarheelcoxnkorio: built-in graphics or AGP or something else?11:19
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roeany idea why xine-check complains of not having xine-lib?11:19
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naliothroe: because you dont have it installed?11:19
_native_iiiears: there is a hardened ubuntu project the daughter project of hardened debain.11:20
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koriotarheelcoxn, i have an ati radeon 9800 pro with the glrx driver installed and choosed11:20
korio:&11:20
roeI installed xine and can't find a seperate package for xine-lib11:20
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iiiears_native_ - sounds good i need the info. - new to linux.11:20
_native_iiiears: that documentation is also on the debian.org site11:20
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tarheelcoxnkorio: good luck. I wouldn't brave anything beyond the 952011:21
iiiears!ubotu hardened is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/11:21
ubotuiiiears: okay11:21
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BoD_SWATkorio, tarheelcoxn, for the record I just installed the ATI drivers from the ATI site. They work fine here11:21
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korioSo you mean i cant run it on linux?11:21
korioo11:21
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korioare there debs for that?11:21
BoD_SWATkorio, are  you talking to me?11:22
korioyes11:22
joosthello :) I probably have a n00b question (again) about gdesklet, i created a profile I like, and I want that to load when I boot ubuntu. I added gdesklet to my startup programs in sessions, but ubuntu won't load with it.. am i doing something wrong?11:22
matwI just ran 'apt-get update' and got a GPG "public key not available" error.11:22
matwcan I work around it?11:22
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to2ubotu, may be a stupid question, but there are neccassary the headers and kernel-sources too:-)11:22
ubotuto2: I think you lost me on that one11:22
BoD_SWATkorio, try to begin your sentence with the name of the person you wish to talk to. What's your exact problem/question? (there are no debs by the way)11:22
naliothiiiears: what are you whispering in the bots ears?11:23
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koriowell BoD_SWAT  it was kind of obvious11:23
to2don't know what you mean, sorry11:23
korioBoD_SWAT, how did you install it anyhow?11:23
iiiearsnalioth - (suddenly worried i have done something wqrong...) - erm . just passing on what i know. as i learn it.11:23
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iiiearsHello nalioth. :011:24
BoD_SWATkorio, it's kinda easy. When do you wish to do it? I'm planning to update my website tomorrow and I'll post everything there (with the entire xorg.conf file, because it's a bit tricky this time)11:24
iiiears:)11:24
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BoD_SWATkorio, I'm used to installing ati drivers :)11:24
korioBoD_SWAT, um I want to do it now11:24
korio:)11:24
joostis there an other way to load my gdesklet profile on startup than to start gdesklet itself?11:24
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BoD_SWATkorio, uhhhhh....... how much time do you have?11:24
Subliminalroe: i dont have it either :-/11:24
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korioIm not shure though, are the glrx drivers no good for an 9800 pro?11:24
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koriobecause thats what the other guy was saying11:25
koriofglrx*11:25
BoD_SWATkorio, you'll need to take hardcopy notes and have at least 30-60 minutes of time available11:25
roeSubliminal: ahah! so I am not crazy11:25
haseldenjoost: i think you can add it to your startup session11:25
korioholy..11:25
matwI just tried to access the seveas.ubuntulinx repository and got a GPG key error. Can I work around it?11:25
haseldentry system>prefs>sessions11:25
naliothmatw: it wont keep you from the software11:25
korioi believe there was a tutorial on the forums though BoD_SWAT , it didnt seem to take more than 5 minutes11:25
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BoD_SWATkorio, I have an ATI Radeon 9700 pro and I need the ATI drivers to my dual-screen will work correctly11:25
matwHow can I access without apt-get?11:25
joosthaselden, i added gdesklet itself to the startip programs, but ubuntu failed loading when i had gdesklets over there11:26
_native_iiiears: http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail594.html11:26
BoD_SWATkorio, the tutorial is flaud11:26
iiiearsnalioth - lol - Good news your patient teaching has gotten me to ignore a nearly new windows machine. only an occasional game11:26
korioi wish i had an nvidia card!11:26
korio-.-11:26
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Subliminalroe: but i'm also having video fun, but my xine-ui does work11:26
_native_iiiears: http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail620.html11:26
naliothiiiears: ok then11:26
Seveasmatw, look at the homepage of that site...11:26
iiiears_native_ Excellent! :)11:26
korioheck im going to put in my old mx 44011:26
matwwww.seveas.ubuntulinux.org?11:26
roeSubliminal: mine crashes11:26
_native_yeah podcasts rock for really learning from the experts11:27
haseldenjoost: try logging out and "save current session"....i think that will start your desktop with whatever you had running11:27
naliothmatw: .nl i think11:27
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matwAh! sorry!11:27
joostokay, gonna try, thanks :)11:27
haseldenjoost: but if you have a bunch of other progs running too, it'll launch those as well :)11:27
BoD_SWATkorio, by the way, I installed an Nvidia here for one time only (just to test  it). I couldn't even install it correctly. So ATI drivers may be worse, they're easier to install111:27
Seveasmatw, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (no www)11:27
joostthx!11:27
matwThanks! I'll check it out.11:27
Seveasjust like in the deb line...11:27
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korioBoD_SWAT, I have never had a problem with an nvidia card under linux11:27
c6h12o6lo peoples11:28
koriowell im going to reinstall and put i a new card BoD_SWAT11:28
iiiearskorio - If you don't need FPS newegg has a good choice of cards under $60 - 5xxx series11:29
BoD_SWATkorio, if you are able to wait a day or so, I can put it on my website. Then it's a five-minute install :D11:29
rexykikis there a way i can boot straight to a terminal rather than booting to X (from a hard drive install)? For some reason a couple moments after loading X and going to load Gnome everything freezes...mouse, keyboard, all. Cant even CTRL+ALT+backspace11:29
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c6h12o6hmm, what's a good online job site in the u.s?11:29
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RopechoborraHiz !11:29
thrushc6h12o6: careerbuilder or monster11:29
c6h12o6something like monster, but better11:29
_native_they all suck!11:29
_native_jk11:29
Seveasc6h12o6, -ETOPIC ask somewhere else...11:29
RopechoborraDoes anybody knows how to run xf86config on hoary ?11:29
joosthmmm it saved my gaim and my skype, but not my gdesklets :(11:29
c6h12o6hmm, i'm not getting anything from monster..11:29
rexykik_native_ = right11:29
_native_:-] 11:29
naliothrexykik: /msg ubotu bum11:29
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BoD_SWATkorio, the URL is www.schauenburg.nl  If you want you can check it tomorrow :D11:29
SeveasRopechoborra, you don't -- hoary uses xorg11:29
c6h12o6seveas, well i'm here about linux..11:29
RopechoborraOh11:29
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rexykikbum?11:29
c6h12o6but my job with cogent is getting phased out... so11:30
thrushc6h12o6: i prefer careerbuilder or america job bank11:30
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RopechoborraSeveas Youve just destroyed hours of investigation11:30
rexykikis that an insult...or...?11:30
RopechoborraxD11:30
c6h12o6aparently it's cheaper to hire a highschool linux geek than pay for me11:30
Seveas!tell rexykik about bum11:30
Seveasrexykik, ubotu told you11:30
topylic6h12o6: i'm sure ubuntu will help you find a job. still, you're off topic11:30
c6h12o6anyway, so what was new in breezy?11:30
RopechoborraSo... how do i run xorg ??? just typeing "xorg" ?11:31
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topylic6h12o6: little stuff mostly, nothing dramatic11:31
c6h12o6i read about the gnome updates, it said something about editable menus..11:31
_native_read the release notes for more detail11:31
sunshine82does anyone know what this mean and how i can change it ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream11:31
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c6h12o6does that mean i can change them completely?11:31
thrushRopechoborra: gdm?11:31
RopechoborraWhat?11:32
_native_yes11:32
c6h12o6that's cool11:32
RopechoborraDont got that =( (not well at english)11:32
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topyliyou can upgrade with a couple of commands. see the link given in the channel topic11:32
rexykikSeveas, is bum standard install with 5.1?11:32
Seveasno11:32
_native_c6h12o6: gosh i cant type that cryptic nick fast enough11:33
Seveas5.10 has something I consider better11:33
rexykik...11:33
thrushRopechoborra: wet the steel the raven croaks! the sparrow flies at midnight!11:33
rexykikso what does bum do me any good with?11:33
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topyli_native_: c6-TAB is easier for me than _n-TAB :)11:33
ElsanI need help. I accidentally(or stupidly) gave myself control over /usr/bin and now my sudo command does not work anymore and I can't launch applications requiring a sudo password from the GNOME menu.11:33
Stormx2Elsan: Hang on11:34
Stormx2!sudo11:34
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ubotusudo is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo11:34
Stormx2Check that page11:34
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rexykik!ninja11:34
uboturexykik: Are you smoking crack?11:34
agtWhere should I put fonts? I have a bunch of .pcf fonts I want to add11:34
Stormx2it gives you a command to disable the root account11:34
rexykik!ninj11:34
uboturexykik: Bugger all, i dunno11:34
tarheelcoxn_native_: use a better irc client that allows for tab completion of nicks11:34
Stormx2!botsnack11:34
ubotuthanks stormx2 :)11:34
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c6h12o6_native_, juz call me glucose11:34
c6h12o6it's easier11:34
rexykiklol11:34
DShepherdagt: try font://11:35
iiiearsBe nice to the bot his wife is the department of motor vehicles computer. - grin11:35
topyliElsan: you mean you changed ownership of /usr/bin to yourself instead of root?11:35
rexykiktab complete owns11:35
Stormx2so type /nick glucose o.O11:35
Elsantopyli: YES11:35
DShepherdagt: I think you need admin access to add fonts11:35
_native_man im new to irc so still learning all the shortcuts. :-)11:35
Ropechoborra[18:33]  <thrush> Ropechoborra: wet the steel the raven croaks! the sparrow flies at midnight! <--- i got that but has no sense11:35
Elsantopyli: and after all I found I didn't need to :/11:35
rexykikStormx2, then it wouldn't be clever11:35
Stormx2irc is just multiplayer text editing11:35
topyliElsan: congratulations :) -- you might be able to fix it in single user mode11:35
rexykikRopechoborra, he was just messing with you11:35
RopechoborraI imagined that11:35
Ropechoborranoonon11:35
RopechoborraGuesss that11:36
Ropechoborrathats the word :P11:36
rexykikor writing poetry11:36
Stormx2x.x11:36
rexykikone of the two11:36
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iiiearsStorm2 - "BFG" Big Font Game?11:36
RopechoborraxD11:36
rexykikmaybe he is trying to serenade you?11:36
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cas^hello! i am having problems with printing in breezy. changing resolution of my printings doesn't work. it doesn't matter whether i'm using gnome-cups-manager or cups' web interface: resulting printout is always at the lowest possible quality11:36
RopechoborraThanks anyway11:36
Stormx2XD11:36
Ropechoborrahehehehe11:36
Elsantopyli: Thank you :) Reinstalling is not an option, at least for a first one, I just configured everything to my tastes and it was the 7th time in 4 days.11:36
topyliiiiears: big fraggin' gun11:36
agtDShepherd, thanks11:36
Stormx2!printing11:36
ubotuprinting is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org11:36
Elsantopyli: How do I do it? I add root as login?11:36
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DShepherdagt: no problem11:36
cas^i have an epson c4211:36
topyliElsan: you ever make backups? :)11:36
zero_hm, is that online?11:37
tarheelcoxnubotu: tell cas^ about printing11:37
cas^it did work perfectly in all my previous distros11:37
zero_i wonder if i'm really online, trying hard this evening to get in...11:37
topyliElsan: you can't do anything about sudo since sudo doesn't work. and you have no root login. it's init 1, single user mode baby11:37
Elsantopyli: I just finished installing it yesterday and I have no space and don't know how to make some with Linux, I can backup my /home/user folder, no problem, but I don'T want to reinstall and redownload EVERYTHING for the 8th time!!11:37
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RopechoborraHi again xD11:37
Ropechoborralol11:37
topyliElsan: yeah that sucks, really11:38
Elsantopyli: can I just login as root(after setting it on) and changing user permissions11:38
jonny_cyphase , are you there?11:38
Elsan*cries*11:38
test34anyone using a modem for answering machine/call blocker (with callerID)? if so, what modem works good ?11:38
rexykikElsan, what do you mean "make some space"?11:38
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zero_@Elsan: Sorry for bothering, but am i online?? (no joke)11:39
RopechoborraHow do i connect by dial up with hoary ?????11:39
jonny_zero_ yes11:39
tasukizero_ try ping...11:39
topyliElsan: find out about single user mode, this is no place for a complete tutorial. basically, you give a "single" or "init=1" option to the boot loader, and it boots linux in single user mode, i.e. God mode11:39
Elsanzero_: Yes, you are. :P I see you in the user list11:39
iiiearstest34 are there good answering machine packages for linux? - last time i looked is mgetty/vgetty config hell.11:39
cas^zero_: thx, but all this is useless. the problem is that there is something wrong with cups or gimp-print in breezy11:39
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Elsantopyli: uh... ok...11:39
zero_strange because my comp tells me something other11:39
tasukishould I mount cd before trying to burn it?11:39
test34iiiears, the only thing Ive seen so far is vgetty11:40
zero_thanx anyway to everybody ;)11:40
DShepherdtasuki: are you using breezy?11:40
sremingtoniiiears: asterisk makes a pretty good answering machine ;)11:40
iiiearstest34 "" same11:40
cas^it doesn't respect any settings related to quality11:40
Stormx2tasuki: inserted blank cds should mount automaticly.11:40
tasuki(I tried both mounting it and not mounting it and neither works )-:11:40
test34iiiears, but I never tried it so I don't know11:40
topyliElsan: then you can change the permissions, and make any system changes. all that's missing is the network (and thus, the gui)11:40
zero_btw, it's a dial up with hoary11:40
iiiearsasterisk. hm11:40
jonny_man, ubuntus complicated11:40
Elsanrexyzik: I meant backups11:40
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tasukiI use breezy, yes, and automount somehow doesnt work here...11:40
RopechoborraHow do i connect to internet by dial up with hoary ?????11:40
rexykikjonny_, LOL!!!11:40
iiiearsThanks sremington :)11:40
Stormx2jonny_: When you get used to it, it isn't11:40
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zero_@Rope.. Try PPPoE...11:41
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Elsantopyli: It says "opration non permise" when I try to change it wit hthe H11:41
Stormx2We all probably found windows complicated when we first started11:41
test34Ropechoborra, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto11:41
zero_that's what i did and it seems to work :)11:41
Elsanthe GNOMe terminal11:41
Ropechoborrazero_ whats that ?? :(11:41
Stormx2then we just gae up ^_^11:41
cas^it juest keeps ignoring them. i had several distros before, for example pld, and it did work11:41
jonny_oh, and im switching from the all-so-easy-yey-all-so-annoying XP11:41
RopechoborraThankx!!!! =)11:41
_native_KC you here?11:41
jonny_*yet11:41
Elsantopyli: It's not permitted11:41
DShepherdtasuki: well you will have to mount it yourself11:41
zero_i read it at "ubuntuusers.de"11:41
Elsantopyli: I can always try recovery mode in GRUB11:41
Stormx2jonny_: What do you need help with?11:41
zero_it searches your modem (analog, isdn or dsl or something else)11:41
jonny_well...its off topic...but installing real player11:42
zero_try: sudo pppoeconf11:42
jonny_if you have an AIM acount I could ask you there.11:42
tasukidshepherd: it says: "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc" when I try to mount a blank cd11:42
cas^it would be great if someone here could tell me if changing printing quality settings works for him in breezy11:42
zero_submit and follow instructions11:42
RopechoborraOther thing... ive tryed to open OpenOffice text editor but it doesnt ...  =(11:42
cas^especially owner of an epson11:42
marioHOLA11:42
topyliElsan: well, if root doesn't own the executables it cannot run them. and you cannot run them because they depend on libraries in /usr/lib owned by root (who, as you remember, doesn't own the executable). or something like that :)11:42
marioALGUIEN QUE ESCRIBA EN CASSTELLANO11:42
tasukidshepherd: cds with something on them mount just fine...11:42
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test34Ropechoborra, gives you any errors ?11:42
Ropechoborramario11:43
Stormx2jonny_: For realplayer, check the restricted formats wiki11:43
iiiears!ubuntu-es11:43
ubotuiiiears: I haven't a clue11:43
Stormx2!mp311:43
ubotuI guess mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)11:43
Elsantopyli: DAMN11:43
RopechoborraTenes que entrar en ubuntu-es para espaol11:43
DShepherdtasuki: what is the fs type you using?11:43
Seveas!es11:43
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:43
nalioth!es11:43
Ropechoborrahahahaha11:43
RopechoborraIm the live-one traductor11:43
Ropechoborra:P11:43
Belutzhas anyone installed postgres 7.4 in breezy?11:43
jonny_I did, but I get confused about the .bin thing!?! , Stormx211:43
Elsantopyli: Can I stop "gdm" and change those permissions?11:43
Ropechoborraalive-one ore living one ?11:43
tasukidshepherd: errr, iso?11:43
madsenOk, I've got an strace with a _lot_ of failing stat64() in... But wtf is stat64()?11:43
marioRopecoborra: como se entra en ubuntu-es???????????????????11:43
topyliElsan: since it's such a new installation, i would reinstall and get some practice on the side11:43
Ropechoborramario tipea /j #ubuntu-es11:44
Elsantopyli: ARG! Practice! I got some for the 7th time this week! ARG11:44
Stormx2jonny_: let me take a look11:44
topyliElsan: no, gdm has nothing to do with it. you need to reboot to the almighty single user mode11:44
jonny_@ what?11:44
DShepherdtasuki: iso9660? right11:44
jonny_the wiki?11:44
Elsantopyli: I know now I should put my sh file in /usr/local/bin now, I had forgotten about it before11:44
topyliElsan: hack on! =)11:44
tasukidshepherd: uh, probably :)11:45
zero_bye @ll11:45
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RopechoborraOther thing... ive tryed to open OpenOffice text editor but it doesnt ...  =(11:45
Stormx2jonny_: have you tried (in terminal) sudo apt-get install realplayer11:45
topyliElsan: you also know now that permissions on system files are not arbitrary, but set for a purpose :)11:45
DShepherdtasuki: do you know how to mount devices, if you should man mount11:45
Stormx2Ack!11:46
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Stormx2Fedora Core >.>11:46
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Elsantopyli: Great, my iPod does not work anymore so I can't make my backups, I'll try recovery mode :/11:46
tasukidshepherd: well, I thought I knew, but not sure anymore :-)  (sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0/)11:46
jonny_yes, the installer launches but something happens with some .bin thing. it tells me to enter where it is, but I dont know11:46
Elsantopyli: I did it for some folders before.11:46
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jonny_stormx2: yes, the installer launches but something happens with some .bin thing. it tells me to enter where it is, but I dont know11:46
topyliElsan: yeah, when grub the bootloader comes up, press ESC and you can pass the "single" parameter to the kernel11:47
Elsantopyli: What would be the command to copy a file/folder to a specififc folder?11:47
_native_jonny_, just hit enter11:47
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RopechoborraHow do i change user priorities ?11:47
DShepherdtasuki:  that seems right11:47
RopechoborraHow do i change users priorities ?11:47
Stormx2jonny_: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl - show me what you mean. Copy & Paste (its Ctrl + Shift + C in terminal)11:47
tarheelcoxnElsan: cp11:47
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madsenNo one knows what stat64() is and why it could be failing with, say, "stat64("libc.so.6", 0xbfb15b84)         = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)"?11:47
DShepherdtasuki: that doesnt work?11:47
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cevizogluRopechoborra, give them things to do11:47
jonny_I did and it said that it did not reckognize it at that location11:47
tasukidshepherd: it doesnt :(11:47
Seveascevizoglu, rofl11:47
jonny_sorry, spelling erroes11:47
topyliElsan: cp foo bar, where foo is the original file and bar is the copy. for directories, you need the -a switch11:47
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tarheelcoxnElsan: cp -aR for a directory and all its contents11:48
jonny_errors* LOL11:48
Blake_SevenI am net to ubuntu I have a server up and running. What I need help with is How do I lock down my server so I can manage it remotely, ftp, web server, smtp, pop.11:48
matwI'm running am64-breezy, will the seveas FreeNX binaries work with amd64?11:48
_native_jonny_, did you download it to your home/jonny dir11:48
Blake_Sevennet=new11:48
Belutzwhen i'm trying to start postgresql, it says "TCP/IP connections must be enabled for SSL" how do i enable that?11:48
cevizogluRopechoborra, but for permissions, use chmod, chown, chgrp11:48
jonny_ummmmmmm11:48
Elsantopyli, tarhellcoxn: can you give me an example?11:48
Seveasmatw, no, but you can apt-get source them and build them yourself11:48
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jonny_no idea11:48
jonny_ill try that11:48
Seveasmatw: add deb-src http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas freenx11:49
Stormx2_native_: He used apt-get install - so it didn't download to his home dir11:49
Ropechoborracevizoglu got that... but, to do it on every file??? :( isnt there some general option ?11:49
Seveasthen: apt-get -b source nx freenx11:49
_native_ok11:49
Seveasand install the locally created packages with dpkg -i11:49
matwseveas, I'm unfamiliar with source. should I get .dsc, diff.gz, tar.gz, or all of them?11:49
DShepherdtasuki: trying it myself11:49
Elsantopyli: I checked my GRUB menu and it does have the single parameter under recovery mode.11:49
topyliElsan: ok. copy all your porn from /home/topyli to /var/svass: 'cp -a /home/topyli/pr0n /var/svass/topylis-pr0n'11:49
Seveasmatw, I just explained it ;)11:49
topylifor a directory11:49
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tasukidshepherd: dmesg says this: [50413.547549]  attempt to access beyond end of device  [50413.547561]  hdc: rw=0, want=68, limit=4  [50413.547569]  isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=1611:49
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topyliElsan: great, you have it easy. i remember now, ubuntu does that11:49
_native_Stormx2, , so should'nt be instlalled11:49
racookierhi11:50
matwThanks Seveas, I need to take notes.11:50
_native_Stormx2, , so should'nt it11:50
_native_*11:50
cevizogluRopechoborra, chmod *.txt  will, for example, change all files ending with .txt11:50
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Elsantopyli: My porn's on Windows, I haven't made all my switch ;)11:50
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thrushElsan: no! you cant treat pr0n like that you have to tar it!11:50
Stormx2_native_: Keyboard problems? ;-)11:50
Seveastar and feathers...11:50
Elsantopyli: Thanks! I'll get to it in a sec and get back to you.11:50
cevizogluRopechoborra, -R will change all files in a folder11:50
topyliElsan: quick! your porn will go sour on ntfs drives!11:50
RopechoborraOk! is there anyway that i could access to the Visual mode with the root user ?11:50
Elsanthrush: What do you mean?11:50
_native_Stormx2, book in front of me11:50
BoD_SWATQuestion: My 1st screen = 95*96dpi and my 2nd=75*75dpi. I need to change the dpi for my 2nd monitor. How can I do this? (xorg?)11:50
_native_:-)11:50
Belutz:-(11:50
KurtKrautRopechoborra, no11:50
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Elsantopyli: I converted it in FAT32 with Partition Magic before installing Ubuntu.11:51
Ropechoborra=(11:51
jonny_here you go! :http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3613 stormx211:51
RopechoborraOk11:51
DShepherdtasuki: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0--- works for me11:51
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DShepherdtasuki: that was a cdR that's why I mounted it as readonly11:51
Cole--whats the del command in Konsole?11:51
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topyliElsan: ok you can use fat3211:51
jonny_here you go!: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3613 stormx211:51
KurtKrautRopechoborra, or at least, the is not a way that I know. But for security issues, you shouldnt do that even you you can.11:51
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thrushElsan: tar makes a kind of archive file u can tar multiple dir and files into one file.tar..nm11:51
jonny_sorry about not making it a link!11:51
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Elsanthrush: Ok11:52
ElsanThanks. I'll reboot in recovery.11:52
racookierhow to change gnome desktop to kde ?11:52
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Stormx2jonny_: You are using ubuntu right? And you issued "sudo apt-get install realplayer" ?11:52
phiqtionwhere do i add new X11 CURSOR sets?11:52
RopechoborraKurtKraut But for example... everitime i try to open something or modify something it says i dont got the permissions11:52
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tasukidshepherd: for me it doesnt (with blank cds, that is...)11:52
thrushracookier: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:52
Stormx2jonny_: I have 0 idea why it is talking about rpms...11:52
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DShepherdtasuki:11:52
Elsanracookier: Type in a terminal "sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop" and choose kdm as the default manager11:52
KurtKrautRopechoborra, but it doesnt asks for a password ?11:52
topyliElsan: good luck!11:52
tasukidshepherd: and I tried different ones to be sure...11:52
Cole--whats the del command in Konsole?11:53
Elsanracookier: Or when you login, click on session and choose KDE11:53
Stormx2rm11:53
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iiiearsracooker - you can d/l all the packages  "kubuntu-desktop"   100+ mbs11:53
phiqtionwhere do i add new X11 CURSOR sets?11:53
RopechoborraKurtKraut not from the visual mode11:53
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Elsanracookier: sorry it's "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"11:53
KurtKrautRopechoborra, are you using Ubuntu with GNOME ?11:53
Ropechoborrayap11:53
tarheelcoxnphiqtion: in gnome?11:53
jonny_Oh well, realplayer isnt vital, stormx211:53
matwseveas, I added the deb-src line as you wrote it, but I couln't apt-get because of the GPG error11:53
phiqtiontarheelcoxn, yes11:53
KurtKrautRopechoborra, because visually, when you attemp to do something that root should do, Ubuntu asks for a password and then you are free to do what you need.11:54
tarheelcoxnphiqtion: if you figure that out, let me know11:54
Seveasmatw, if you looked at the homepage, you can see how to solve this error11:54
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phiqtionwhere do i add new X11 CURSOR sets?11:54
Elsanracookier: Or get Kubuntu if you don't want GNOME at all11:54
tarheelcoxnphiqtion: I switched to kde in anger because I spent a day and a half trying to figure that out11:54
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pititoHay alguien quehable espaol en lina ahora msmo?11:54
_native_plugable authentication modules rule!11:54
zblach!ubuntu-es11:54
ubotuzblach: No idea11:54
DShepherdtasuki: I dont have a blank anywhere11:54
Blake_Sevencan you get gnome thru shh shell ?11:54
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_native_*pluggable11:54
RopechoborraKurtKraut oh... but no... it says "Contact the root for permissions" or something like that11:54
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tarheelcoxnubotu: tell pitito about spanish11:54
phiqtiontarheelcoxn, well. i use to like KDE, but i find gnome better11:54
Stormx2jonny_: I suggest you use "Beep Media player", download it from Synaptic! System --> Administration --> Synaptic package manager11:54
matwseveas, Thanks! I see the fix now. :-)11:54
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tarheelcoxnphiqtion: ditto11:54
_native_Blake_Seven, yes11:55
KurtKrautRopechoborra, are you using Ubuntu and GNOME ?11:55
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pDalERROR: SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual11:55
pDal - i get this error while trying to start quake4 and glxgears turns slow, so i have been told that its my conig or drivers thats the problem, please help11:55
Stormx2jonny_: And remember that there are a good 17,000 packages in Synaptic with universe and multiverse enabled.11:55
_native_Blake_Seven, if i understand your question correctly11:55
Cry_Mac_UbuntuHey, what's a good program for unraring files11:55
zblachi've had to replatform recently, so i'm trying to get some more things up and running. 1) 3d-acceleration with radeon, 2)java 1.5 sdk. any help is appreciated11:55
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Blake_Sevenwhat is the command.. I am in a airport with nonting to do for @#%2 hours...11:55
tasukidshepherd: ok, nevermind, thanks for trying... :)11:55
phiqtiontarheelcoxn, so you're using kubuntu?11:55
RopechoborraKurtKraut Ive instal Ubuntu 5.04 and ive read it brings GNOME with it (Im newbie on this :( )11:55
Stormx2Cry_Mac_Ubuntu: File Roller11:55
KurtKrautCry_Mac_Ubuntu, seach for RAR on www.ubuntuguide.org11:55
naliothCry_Mac_Ubuntu: install unrar-nonfree and then your gui file mangler will handle all of them11:55
Stormx2Ropechoborra: yes, it does.11:56
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Blake_SevenI have Putty running now11:56
_native_zblach,  i got cha11:56
Cry_Mac_Ubuntustormx2 Didn't work.11:56
tarheelcoxnphiqtion: I installed ubuntu then added the kubuntu-desktop package11:56
KurtKrautRopechoborra, you shouldnt be experiencing that problem. Please, post your problem on ubuntuforums.org11:56
naliothKurtKraut: please dont advise ubuntuguide11:56
Stormx2Ropechoborra: GNOME is the default desktop environment11:56
zblach_native_, you rule11:56
tarheelcoxnI have both gnome and KDE11:56
_native_zblach,  what radeon11:56
phiqtiontarheelcoxn, and how's the login screen?11:56
zblach_native_, 9700 pro11:56
Cry_Mac_Ubuntunalioth I don't know what that meant, but I'll figure it out. thanks.11:56
izigoo my o my this chat was active11:56
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izigodamn11:56
KurtKrautnalioth, ok... but why not ?11:56
RopechoborraOk...11:56
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RopechoborraThankx! anyway11:56
naliothubotu: tell KurtKraut about ubuntuguide11:56
tarheelcoxnphiqtion: I picked kdm as the default display manager11:56
tarheelcoxnso... blue11:56
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Stormx2Ropechoborra: I don't know why he told you that...11:57
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Stormx2Ropechoborra: Were you just asking whether it included GNOME?11:57
_native_zblach, so your sure you dont have accel out of the box11:57
zblach_native_, how to test in 5.1011:57
zblach?11:57
_native_zblach, you should pm me11:57
izigohow old is ubuntu?11:57
Stormx2Um11:57
Stormx2no idea11:57
Stormx2^_^11:57
c6h12o6heh, raid0 of two quantum bigfoots is funny11:57
izigolol11:57
tarheelcoxnizigo: a year11:57
gnomefreak18 months lol11:57
nalioth_native_: nobody can talk to you in a /pm. because you are unregisterd with services11:57
RopechoborraStormx2 I supous yes...11:57
c6h12o6a whole 16g of raid11:57
izigothat old? well its still young :D11:57
Stormx2Ropechoborra: So there wasn't a problem? :-\11:58
_native_u huh he just did11:58
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tarheelcoxnizigo: it's got a lot of debian history, though11:58
izigoi guess i should try it.. but then again all my systems is production systems.11:58
gnomefreaknew version every 6 months 3rd just came out11:58
zblachizigo, newest version is about 2 weeks11:58
apokryphosizigo: it's been around for longer, but only really gained acknowledgement at Hoary, really.11:58
nalioth_native_: nobody will recieve YOUR /pms11:58
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Stormx2really?11:58
_native_ill identify real quick11:58
Stormx2Ubuntu is awesome11:58
RopechoborraStormx2 My problem is that i cant enter to the visual mode with root so ive created a new user called Ropechoborra (lol) but in that user i dont got permission and is anoying having to change them from the text mode one by one11:58
Stormx2Better than the rest11:58
phiqtiontarheelcoxn, where i get the kubuntu package11:58
_native_yeah11:59
izigoStormx2 thats what everyone sayes about all distros hehe.11:59
RopechoborraStormx2 file by file...11:59
iiiearsphiqtion, synaptic kubuntu-desktop  ?11:59
tarheelcoxnphiqtion: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:59
tarheelcoxnas root11:59
Stormx2Ropechoborra: That is strange. I suggest you post on the forums11:59
gnomefreakfor being as new to linux as ubuntu is they are really kicking butt11:59
tarheelcoxnphiqtion: or you can use synaptic11:59
apokryphosRopechoborra: why do you want graphical root?12:00
izigoproblem is my systems depend on stability and reliability. and since i never used ubuntu its like going from redhat as standard user to slackware ;)12:00

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