[12:00] <sunshine82> techsolo yea i think so
[12:00] <iceman> bob2 dude command not found see flood
[12:00] <sunshine82> techsolo how do i check
[12:00] <cyphase> np
[12:00] <aurax> hello, anyone here using pptp client ?
[12:00] <techsolo> sunshine82: lsmod
[12:00] <bob2> iceman: dude, you didn't run what I said
[12:00] <bob2> iceman: outside, the, chroot.
[12:00] <cyphase> out the cd in the burner, and close the window that pops up
[12:00] <techsolo> sunshine82: and then that drivers name
[12:00] <titanium> Seveas: now when i try to do anything with nxserver ie --status, --restart it just 'freezes' and stops responding until i press enter, and then it says "quit Quit"
[12:00] <blair> anyone want a pirate copy of ubuntu breezy badger?
[12:00] <cyphase> blair, me!
[12:00] <iceman> i have know ide whats in what out ...
[12:00] <bob2> iceman: you're still in the chroot when you're running that command
[12:00] <blair> go dl one from here:  www.ubuntu.com
[12:01] <bob2> iceman: look at your bloody prompt
[12:01] <techsolo> blair: that's illigal
[12:01] <bob2> 08:00:10         iceman |  (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:/$
[12:01] <bob2> in chroot
[12:01] <jonny> u mean put it in?
[12:01] <blair> techsolo, i know...shocking, huh
[12:01] <bob2> 07:35:36         iceman |  iceman@icebox64:~$  dchroot -c mychroot -d
[12:01] <bob2> not in chroot
[12:01] <sunshine82> techsolo it on lsmod but it say ovcamchip
[12:01] <cyphase> jonny, yea
[12:01] <amitayk> bob2: How do I configure my X to use /dev/psaux? I'm really newbie with this stuff...
[12:01] <cyphase> put*
[12:01] <cyphase> :)
[12:01] <blair> you know...if the internationalization included rendering all text in "pirate"....
[12:01] <techsolo> sunshine82: yeah that's no prob
[12:01] <blair> arrr, ubuntu
[12:01] <pizux> is someone know about dialog program?
[12:01] <sunshine82> techsolo it on lsusb as well
[12:02] <bob2> amitayk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, choose it for the mouse device
[12:02] <mohkohn> the more I read I think I need to put windoze back on my pc. Just long enough to flash the iriver T30 then it should work like a usb device...or is that a stupic plan?
[12:02] <jonny> ok now what
[12:02] <iceman> bob2 see #flood
[12:02] <techsolo> sunshine82: what 's gqcam saying about your webcam
[12:02] <bob2> pizux: a) don't ever crapflood the channel again, b) instal lthe 'dialog' package
[12:02] <cyphase> jonny, did a window pop up?
[12:02] <blair> mohkohn, you could probably write a flashy thing yourself
[12:02] <bob2> iceman: that is odd
[12:02] <jonny> yes
[12:02] <bob2> iceman: 'ls /chroot/bin | wc -l'?
[12:02] <sunshine82> techsolo it sayin /dev/video no such device
[12:03] <pizux> i know sorry but dialog program doesn t exist
[12:03] <mohkohn> blair does that make sense: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81513&highlight=iriver+t30
[12:03] <pizux> http://packages.debian.org/stable/misc/dialog
[12:03] <techsolo> sunshine82: that's because the driver is'n t right configured
[12:03] <pizux> just for debian
[12:03] <cyphase> jonny, close it
[12:03] <bob2> pizux: please stop it
[12:03] <jonny> ok
[12:03] <sunshine82> techsolo am i meant to opn gqcam in terminal
[12:03] <cyphase> then right click on the iso file
[12:03] <bob2> pizux: sudo apt-get install dialog
[12:03] <iceman> bob2 flood again
[12:03] <jonny> now what
[12:03] <techsolo> sunshine82: search on gentoo or ubuntu forums for that
[12:03] <pizux> bob2,
[12:03] <pizux> ?
[12:03] <bob2> pizux: run that command
[12:03] <bob2> iceman: 'ls /chroot'
[12:03] <techsolo> sunshine82: i can't really help you from here
[12:03] <iceman> bob2 it sucks ... i know ...
[12:03] <cyphase> and click "Write To Disk..."
[12:04] <blair> mohkohn, just a sec...i need to check that link
[12:04] <techsolo> sunshine82: and in my place it's 0003 hours
[12:04] <pizux> thanks a lot
[12:04] <cyphase> don't start yet though
[12:04] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:/chroot$ ls /chroot
[12:04] <iceman> debootstrap  home  var
[12:04] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:/chroot$
[12:04] <jonny> where is that
[12:04] <bob2> w.t.f.
[12:04] <iceman> bob2 sorry for 3 line flood but was quicker
[12:04] <cyphase> right click on the iso
[12:04] <cyphase> which is probably in your home folder
[12:04] <bob2> iceman: did you just delete things in there?
[12:05] <iceman> bob2 nope
[12:05] <bob2> iceman: wait, you didn't use /var/chroot?
[12:05] <jonny> ok
[12:05] <bob2> or you did
[12:05] <titanium> i don't even know what the hell is going on now. when i try to do anything nxserver related it says "HELLO NXSERVER" and pauses and won't do anything else.
[12:05] <jonny> 3X
[12:05] <bob2> then you ignored it, and used /chroot
[12:05] <cyphase> that's good
[12:05] <blair> mohkohn, looks like ifp and lsusb have different ideas about accessing the ports
[12:05] <cyphase> start it then
[12:05] <bob2> iceman: ls /var/chroot
[12:05] <jonny> ok its doing that but iv gtg eat later
[12:06] <iceman> bob2 #flood
[12:06] <cyphase> jonny, how long
[12:06] <cyphase> because i have to do something to :)
[12:06] <jonny> to eat dinner?
[12:06] <cyphase> lol
[12:06] <cyphase> i'll brb to then
[12:06] <bob2> iceman: why were you doing anything in /chroot at all, then?
[12:06] <iceman> bob2 ? question whats ls command ?
[12:07] <bob2> iceman: ls = list contents of directory
[12:07] <bob2> iceman: 'file /var/chroot/bin/ls'
[12:07] <iceman> bob2 to run wine in 64 bit ..
[12:07] <bob2> iceman: no, your chroot is in /var/chroot.  /chroot/ is some unrelated and almost empty directory
[12:07] <thrush> speaking of ls is there a better way than ls | more to do like dir /p?
[12:07] <bob2> thrush: better how?
[12:08] <iceman> posting in flood again
[12:08] <thrush> ls is all colorful and nice more is a little bland
[12:08] <DruQks> Greetings!
[12:08] <Kassah> Question: using the LiveCD to test out on my lappy... however I left it sitting to long and I've got a screensaver password... yet I never entered a password
[12:08] <thrush> and one column
[12:08] <bob2> Kassah: known bug, sadly
[12:08] <amitayk> bob2: I've try to reconfigure my mouse but with no success. This time, I've told it to imluate a 3-button mouse (Which I use) but without the wheel option.
[12:09] <Kassah> pretty screensaver though
[12:09] <bob2> iceman: then you're fine
[12:09] <Kassah> bob2, is there a default password?
[12:09] <bob2> iceman: dchroot, then 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[12:09] <iceman> bob2 i take it that the boot stuff i wanted is there, now how to get wine working >
[12:09] <bob2> Kassah: I don't think so
[12:09] <Seveas> thread, ls --color | less
[12:09] <concept10> what is the fastest ubuntu repo us.archive.com or just archive.ubuntu.com??
[12:09] <Seveas> thrush*
[12:09] <DruQks> I require slight assistance with installing Ubuntu. It freezes at the beginning of the installation process when trying to boot up it's Kernel. I've verified my installation image.
[12:10] <P8ntKid> bob2, After i let apt download and install breezy. Should i restart my computer or what?
[12:10] <Stormx2> chmod to full read, write, whatever. How do i do it?
[12:10] <bob2> concept10: that would of course depend on where yo uare, how you and your isp are connected to the internet, and what the phase of the moon is
[12:10] <bob2> P8ntKid: once everything is done, yes
[12:10] <blair> DruQks, what kind processor and what build ubuntu?
[12:10] <bob2> Stormx2: terrible idea, but mode 777
[12:10] <iceman> bob2 nope no installation candidate this would kill flood ...
[12:10] <bob2> iceman: then fix your /etc/apt/sources.list IN THE CHROOT
[12:10] <Stormx2> bob2 - Well, what is the standard permissions for folders?
[12:10] <DruQks> It's an Acer TravelMate 8thousandsomething and it's the latest version of ubuntu I got from the website.
[12:10] <concept10> bob2, supposed to be a full moon tonight, maybe I will try when it gets dark
[12:10] <thrush> Seveas: might look better when im not ssh'd into the computer thx
[12:11] <P8ntKid> bob2, At the website you gave me. It says to do stuff for after the upgrade. Should i do that after i restart or before?
[12:11] <iceman> bob2 partly understand that ... where to get a good sources.list file
[12:11] <Seveas> thrush, works fine over ssh for me
[12:11] <cafuego> !info libc6 dapper
[12:11] <louis_> hi all
[12:12] <DruQks> Just saw that linux acpi=off noacpi should work.....
[12:12] <thrush> Seveas: got ESC for each line oh but that box is running slackware so...
[12:12] <Kassah> bob2: is there a default root password?
[12:12] <bob2> iceman: /etc/apt/sources.list OUTSIDE the chroot, just copy it in to /var/chrtoo/etc/apt/sources.list, fixing typoes
[12:12] <bob2> Kassah: no
[12:12] <bob2> cafuego: hah
[12:12] <Kassah> bob2: or some way to change the user pass from command line?
[12:12] <bob2> Kassah: yes, 'passwd ubuntu', if youcan get a terminal
[12:12] <bob2> Kassah: if you had a terminal, tho, you could just kill xscreensaver
[12:13] <iceman> bob2 trying to find the sources list in chroot .. ?
[12:13] <Kassah> bob2, I've got a console by going Ctrl+Alt+F1
[12:13] <NightLord> Why do I get an error saying "USB_Connection_Error: Not permitted in configuration file" when trying to copy music from my mp3 player
[12:13] <ispiked_> why doesn't something like <Control>. work as a keyboard shorcut in the configuration editor?
[12:13] <P8ntKid> bob2, At the website you gave me. It says to do stuff for after the upgrade. Should i do that after i restart or before?
[12:13] <Kassah> bob2, but changing the password asks me for the current one
[12:13] <sunshine82> does anyone have a ame webcam
[12:13] <blair> Kassah it should be the same as your default user password
[12:13] <bob2> iceman: no
[12:14] <sunshine82> with nw801 chipset
[12:14] <amitayk> bob2: I've try to reconfigure my mouse but with no success. This time, I've told it to imluate a 3-button mouse (Which I use) but without the wheel option.
[12:14] <bob2> iceman: copy it into the chroot
[12:14] <titanium> bob2 or seveas: if i reinstall breezy, clean, and the very first thing i do is apt-get install ssh && apt-get install freenx  (using seveas' repository) do you think that would work? im fed up with this and i need freenx
[12:14] <blair> on installation both passwords are set the same
[12:14] <NightLord> Why do I get an error saying "USB_Connection_Error: Not permitted in configuration file" when trying to copy music from my mp3 player
[12:14] <Kassah> blair, it's the livecd... never asked me for a password
[12:14] <bob2> Kassah: 'sudo passwd ubuntu'
[12:14] <iceman> bob2 knowing where to copy from and to where ...
[12:14] <bob2> P8ntKid: after
[12:14] <bob2> iceman: dude
[12:14] <bob2> 08:12:11           bob2 | iceman: /etc/apt/sources.list OUTSIDE the chroot, just copy it in to /var/chrtoo/etc/apt/sources.list, fixing typoes
[12:14] <Kassah> killing xscreensaver killed X...grr
[12:14] <bob2> iceman: I don't mind you not understanding things, but you need to say WHICH bit of my sentences confuse you
[12:15] <blair> Kassah, try ctrl-alt-F1 to get to a terminal window
[12:15] <bob2> titanium: I don't know enough about your situation to guess, sorry
[12:15] <Seveas> titanium, the problem seems to be in your network
[12:15] <bob2> amitayk: that's unelated to using a ps/2 mouse
[12:15] <Seveas> can you ping/ssh to the machine?
[12:15] <Kassah> oops... looks like I pretty well screwed up X
[12:15] <bob2> amitayk: the crucial things are telling it to use /dev/psaux, and the mouse protocol
[12:15] <Kassah> and the display
[12:16] <bob2> Seveas: he/she got login failures in auth.log when trying to connect
[12:16] <aguthrie> I just hit ctrl+alt+F1 and I got taken to some bare-bones terminal type thing. how do I get back to my graphical session. I can still hear my music playing! :P
[12:16] <blair> Kassah, can you reboot and get it back?
[12:16] <bob2> aguthrie: ctral-alt-f7
[12:16] <Kassah> well I'll be booting off the livecd... so I'll lose the data I had entered
[12:16] <blair> aguthrie, what he said
[12:16] <bob2> iceman: so
[12:16] <ispiked_> blair: cheers. :)
[12:16] <concept10> I have a problem with fixing a broken package: Setting up gtkboard (0.11pre0-3) ...
[12:16] <concept10> error in control file: `Format' value not specified at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 715, <IN> line 17.
[12:16] <iceman> bob2 i did sudo gedit, and copied my existing sources.list from my original file to var/chroot and replaced the one that was in there
[12:16] <bob2> iceman: when I say "in the chroot", I mean "after you run dchroot and see '(mychroot)' in your prompt"
[12:17] <Kassah> aguthrie, should be able to get back to X by Ctrl+Alt+F7
[12:17] <bob2> iceman: when I say "outside the chroot", I mean "quite dchroot and make sure (mychroot) is not in your prompt"
[12:17] <bob2> iceman: now, chroot in (dchroot) and run 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:17] <ispiked_> Kassah: Thanks. :)
[12:17] <P8ntKid> bob2, In the post upgrade section it says to edit something in my xorg.conf, should i do that before or after i restart?
[12:17] <ispiked_> Kassah: aguthrie was me.
[12:18] <bob2> P8ntKid: doesn't matter, but before will be simpler
[12:18] <titanium> Seveas : but if i have no firewall and i can ssh to it what could block nx?
[12:18] <P8ntKid> bob2, Ok thanks. Ill do the whole post upgrade thing before i restart i guess.
[12:18] <iceman> bob2 see flood
[12:19] <Seveas> titanium, wait a sec: you *manually* downloaded packages right?
[12:19] <dyno> bob2, nothing on the web for my soundcard :/
[12:19] <titanium> Seveas: the .deb files? i just added your site to my sources.list and did apt-get
[12:19] <Seveas> ok
[12:19] <dyno> so i can't read chinese or russian*
[12:19] <iceman> bobs doing apt-get update see what it does
[12:19] <blair> the heck with this...i gotta go grill somethin'
[12:19] <Seveas> (there are untested newer versions available too, but they're not in the lists yet :)
[12:20] <concept10> im starting to hate APT
[12:20] <kevogod> Why?
[12:20] <titanium> Seveas: i think im just going to reinstall breezy when i get home because this shit is insane, i'm out of ideas
[12:20] <amitayk> bob2: How do I do it?
[12:20] <concept10> 470 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 283 not upgraded. <-- not upgraded, WHY?
[12:20] <Seveas> concept10, apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:21] <concept10> Seveas, heh
[12:21] <concept10> oops
[12:21] <Seveas> Kassah, :)
[12:21] <P8ntKid> bob2, What window manager do you use? I was just wondering.
[12:22] <cafuego> Kassah: omg! omg! I glued like this massive wing to my cpu to speed it up!
[12:23] <Kassah> cafuego, lmao... my first cpu I tried to put in a computer.... I managed to melt to the fan... havn't messed with hardware overclocking since
[12:23] <Stormx2> FTP Client, what would you recommend?
[12:23] <concept10> Seveas, thanks...dumb mistake
[12:24] <agt> Stormx2::  gftp works for me
[12:24] <locust> Can you execute .run files on ubuntu?
[12:24] <Kassah> aww... it broke it's autodetect track record on my lappy... can't find the modem
[12:24] <jbroome> i like ncftpt
[12:24] <cappiz> can someone tell me about a nice webcam sttream server?
[12:24] <jbroome> or, if you wnat it to work, ncftp
[12:25] <sunshine82> how come nw802 driver is in warty but not in breezy#] 
[12:25] <iceman> bob2 no idea if in or out .. but it is updating a lot
[12:25] <iceman> chroot
[12:25] <amitayk> bob2: How do I tell it to use psaux?
[12:26] <iceman> bob2 seems to not want to update if in chroot
[12:26] <iceman> bob2 posted output in flood
[12:26] <aguthrie> So, I did ctrl+alt+backspace to logout but it put me to the barebones terminal thing again. How do I get back to the graphical login screen without rebooting?
[12:27] <P8ntKid> bob2, Ok, it finished downloading all the packages. But it didnt install them? Why?
[12:27] <locust> How do you use .run files in Ubuntu?
[12:28] <KurtKraut> Where can I find some plugins to be added to gnome, such as CPU graphic ?
[12:28] <P8ntKid> bob2, It also gave me an error that sais it failed to fetch these 3 packages. But it still didnt install any of them.
[12:28] <uga> hi there, anyone knows about network issues in ubuntu/kubuntu/debian?
[12:28] <iceman> (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:/$ apt-get install update
[12:28] <iceman> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:28] <iceman> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:28] <iceman> (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:/$
[12:28] <aguthrie> uga: what's up?
[12:28] <aguthrie> iceman: is synaptics running?
[12:28] <iceman> nope
[12:28] <uga> aguthrie: it looks like dhclient is failing here... the router receives the requests but no responce is received back
[12:29] <starscalling> !w32deb
[12:29] <ubotu> w32deb is probably download a ready to use w32codecs deb at http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (hoary) or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (breezy)
[12:29] <uga> i had debian installed before, which after an upgrade began with these sympthoms, now i installed kubuntu, with the same problem
[12:29] <aguthrie> uga: hrm...
[12:29] <uga> aguthrie: iptables is clear, I tried pinging with static ip, with the same problem
[12:29] <cafuego> KurtKraut: Right click the panel and choose "Add to panel...'
[12:29] <cafuego> KurtKraut: There's a system monitor applet, try that.
[12:30] <HukChobo> When I build a vanilla 2.6.13 kernel I no longer get cdrom insert detection in GNOME, although the disc is mounted in /media/cdrom0. With Ubuntu 2.6.12 I get an icon in the desktop and a nautilus window upon cdrom insertion. What do I need to do to get this to work with a vanilla kernel?
[12:30] <cafuego> KurtKraut: if that fails, try gdesktlets, which contain far more status monitor shit than you'l;ll ever need or want.
[12:30] <aguthrie> uga: so you can't even connect with a static IP?
[12:30] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help me with updating from hoary to breezy using apt? I am following the guide that is in the channel topic. It downloads all the packages but it doesnt install them, It just downloaded them.
[12:30] <iceman> anyone willing to ssh access and config this ... i'm ready to just drop 64 bit ... this has been over a 10 hour fight ..
[12:30] <uga> aguthrie: neither. No ping responses. This guy reported the same thing I just found: http://groups.google.com/http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/d144ad2c1d167134/efec30857bde1674?lnk=st&q=debian+dhcp+not+working&rnum=2#efec30857bde1674Rigroup/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/d144ad2c1d167134/efec30857bde1674?lnk=st&q=debian+dhcp+not+working&rnum=2#efec30857bde1674Ri
[12:30] <uga> sorry... argh, double paste
[12:31] <uga> http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/d144ad2c1d167134/efec30857bde1674?lnk=st&q=debian+dhcp+not+working&rnum=2#efec30857bde1674Ri
[12:31] <cafuego> iceman: hint: sudo
[12:31] <aguthrie> uga: I'm not really in a position where I can read that now. :P
[12:31] <amitayk> bob2: How do I tell it to use psaux?
[12:31] <uga> aguthrie: ahk. sorry, hehe. Well, the routing table is empty, the router receives the query, sends it back, but it doesn't receive it
[12:31] <iceman> cafuego i have done sudo ,, no sudo .. and no luck ..
[12:31] <madsen> So, does anyone know how to make sure that the mousedev module doesn't take control of my tablet when I plug it? (Via usb.)
[12:31] <cafuego> iceman: Then remove the lock file and try again.
[12:31] <locust> How can I run something in terminal as super user?
[12:32] <madsen> locust: sudo
[12:32] <cafuego> locust: sudo <comething>
[12:32] <Kassah> okay... off to try the 64 bit livecd on my desktop
[12:32] <iceman> whats locked
[12:32] <aguthrie> uga: you wouldn't know how to get back to a login screen after I did ctrl+alt+backspace, would you? hrm, could I start x and then do ctrl+alt+f7?
[12:32] <locust> so to install ati drivers I'd type sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.18.6-i386.run ?
[12:32] <madsen> cafuego: comething? Eww! :-p
[12:32] <grogoreo> hi
[12:32] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help me with updating from hoary to breezy using apt? I am following the guide that is in the channel topic. It downloads all the packages but it doesnt install them, It just downloaded them.
[12:32] <propagandhi> uga: can you paste the contents of the '/etc/network/interfaces' to the pastebin
[12:32] <cafuego> iceman: /var/lib/apt/lists/lock ?
[12:32] <uga> aguthrie: I'm a coder, so somehow I know ;)
[12:32] <iceman> IM LOST ...
[12:33] <uga> propagandhi: sure, hehe
[12:33] <grogoreo> while doing a dist-upgrade, it says Unable to fetch some archives... and says I should do a apt-get update. After, should a do another dist-upgrade?
[12:33] <cafuego> iceman: You need to be root when running apt; accrding to your pase you aren't. Make sure sudo is set up the the cheroot; it needs to be suid root.
[12:33] <cafuego> s/pase/paste/
[12:33] <grogoreo> also should i just do apt-get update --fix-missing instead of just doing apt-get update?
[12:33] <uga> propagandhi: ugh, copy pasting is impossible, I'll have to copy by hand... :/
[12:33] <uga> notice Ig ot no network there
[12:33] <iceman> Someone .... do a remote and fix this ...
[12:33] <aguthrie> help
[12:33] <P8ntKid> grogoreo, Are you trying to update from hoary to breezy?
[12:33] <aguthrie> darn. sorry about that.
[12:33] <grogoreo> P8ntKid, yep
[12:33] <propagandhi> uga: there shouldnt be much to copy
[12:33] <axteroide> wenas
[12:34] <P8ntKid> grogoreo, I have the same exact problem as you.
[12:34] <bob2> amitayk: as the mouse device...
[12:34] <bob2> P8ntKid: how could it install things it failed to fetch?
[12:34] <grogoreo> P8ntKid, the problem went after saying a connection timeout from download openoffice
[12:34] <sizzam> is there a command i can issue to get more info on my video card (chipset, etc)
[12:34] <P8ntKid> bob2, It only failed to fetch 3 packages.
[12:34] <madsen> sizzam: lspci
[12:34] <iceman> i got 42% of the x86 cd downloaded, thats my only other choice .. or fight this stupid thing, and aggrivate myself and who ever is trying to help
[12:34] <bob2> P8ntKid: so show us the error in #flood
[12:34] <cafuego> sizzam: 'lspci' ?
[12:34] <bob2> iceman: holy fuck
[12:34] <DruQks> Hey, new Ubuntu setup question. I have 15.7GB of free space, I tell the setup to use that. I have WinXP on my C: drive which I want to continue using. Should I have Ubuntu make the new partition a logical or primary one?
[12:35] <amitayk> bob2: Well, I don't really know how the set things up.
[12:35] <sizzam> thanks cafuego, madsen
[12:35] <bob2> iceman: just reinstall it them
[12:35] <madsen> sizzam: np :)
[12:35] <bob2> amitayk: so, run that command and walk through until it asks what mouse device to use
[12:35] <iceman> bob2 dude, 10 hours fighting to no avail ...
[12:35] <evil> nice program
[12:35] <bob2> iceman: I've told you command-by-command how to fix it
[12:35] <P8ntKid> bob2, I did.
[12:35] <Phazeman> hi all. how do i make services to start/stop at boot ? the alternative to mandriva's chkconfig ?
[12:35] <amitayk> bob2: I can't recall it asked for the mouse protocol.\
[12:35] <cafuego> Phazeman: 'rcconf'
[12:35] <grogoreo> but do I have a Breezy install? Or Hoary/Breezy one?
[12:35] <bob2> P8ntKid: 'sudo apt-get update', try dist-upgrade again
[12:35] <Grinak> can anyone recommend a good way to clone\image a breezy build to another hard drive?
[12:35] <bob2> DruQks: doesn't matter
[12:35] <cafuego> Grinak: 'dd' ?
[12:36] <Phazeman> cafuego: thanks
[12:36] <madsen> Phazeman: update-rc.d or System -> Administration -> Services
[12:36] <bob2> DruQks: except that windows will bitch if you have more than 4 primary partitions
[12:36] <iceman> bob2 there seems to be stuff missing ... lost, and LOcked ...
[12:36] <grogoreo> I've just done 'apt-get update --fix-missing' and nohting new's been downloaded
[12:36] <DruQks> bob2, Can I have 2 primary partitions on a HD?
[12:36] <uga> propagandhi: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3570
[12:36] <Kyral> Yes
[12:36] <P8ntKid> bob2, I got an error at the end of the update
[12:36] <DruQks> bob2, what's the difference between a primary/logical one?
[12:36] <Kyral> up to 4
[12:36] <cafuego> bob2: fdisk won't let you make more than 4.
[12:36] <uga> propagandhi: as I saw eth0 isn't in auto, I ifup'ed eth0 manually
[12:36] <P8ntKid> bob2, I pasted it in flood
[12:36] <uga> (just in case you think it's not started up ;))
[12:36] <bob2> iceman: that's because you didn't run the command I told you to
[12:36] <bob2> cafuego: ah
[12:36] <iceman> bbo2, can you ssh in if i do all the premissions and take a look at least ..
[12:36] <bob2> DruQks: yes
[12:37] <bob2> iceman: no, I'm not going to do that
[12:37] <uga> propagandhi: if you use dhcp instead of static, then it'll get no dhcp responses...
[12:37] <bob2> P8ntKid: looks like a temporary mirror issue
[12:37] <cafuego> DruQks: a logical partition is a placegholder for extended partitions; not something that contains data itself.
[12:37] <propagandhi> uga, have u tried adding a gateway line
[12:37] <iceman> bob2 i understand ... but i have done commeand in chroot, out of chroot
[12:37] <P8ntKid> bob2, Yea, your right. I did update again and it went through fine. now  do dist-upgrade?
[12:37] <uga> propagandhi: gateway when I can't even ping the gateway?
[12:37] <bob2> iceman: no, you didn't, sorry
[12:37] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:~$ dchroot
[12:37] <iceman> Executing shell in 'mychroot' chroot.
[12:37] <iceman> No directory, logging in with HOME=/
[12:37] <iceman> (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:/$ logout
[12:37] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:~$
[12:37] <bob2> iceman: and I'm not sure how to make it more clear
[12:38] <bob2> iceman: do. not. paste. crap. in. here.
[12:38] <bob2> P8ntKid: yes.
[12:38] <cafuego> DruQks: Some moron decided back in the 80s that 4 partitions should be enough for anyone, so we got this ugly-ass hack to get around that :-)
[12:38] <jsor> is there a good way to install mozilla-mailnews on breezy?  My only option seems to be downgrading libnspr4 (and most of gnome with it)
[12:38] <iceman> bob2 just lets you know where i am
[12:38] <bob2> iceman: for instance, 'apt-get install update' is not a valid command anywhere
[12:38] <P8ntKid> bob2, It says it has to download another 455mb. Is that right?
[12:38] <bob2> iceman: and I certainly did not ask you to run it
[12:38] <cafuego> jsor: thunderbird is your friend! :-)
[12:38] <uga> propagandhi: tried, didn't work...
[12:38] <bob2> P8ntKid: I don't know (you haven't told me enough)
[12:38] <calamari> is there a command line way to find out the dependencies of the installed package kstars?
[12:38] <propagandhi> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3571
[12:38] <P8ntKid> bob2, Nvm
[12:38] <bob2> iceman: run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install wine' in the chroot
[12:39] <propagandhi> uga: thats my interfaces config
[12:39] <jsor> cafuego, it's my friend for sure, but my parents are resistant to change
[12:39] <bob2> iceman: if you can't explain which part of that is confusing, then I cannot help you anymore, sorry
[12:39] <chulos> hi somebody knows about a bug on distribution keyboard?
[12:39] <bob2> calamari: apt-cache show blah
[12:39] <iceman> bob2 in chroot ... now to insure i am there ?
[12:39] <calamari> bob2: thanks
[12:39] <cafuego> jsor: Tell them it's smaller, faster, more secure.
[12:39] <Phazeman> ok.. now... how do i see through the list of installed packages ?
[12:39] <DruQks> How large should I make my linux boot partition?
[12:39] <Phazeman> something like i was used to do with rpm -q
[12:39] <madsen> calamari: Alternatively: apt-cache depends <package>
[12:39] <cafuego> jsor: Surely they won't mind thunderbird loading in1  second as opposed to mozilla's 12.
[12:39] <alekz> can someone recommend me a nice alternative of Macromedia Dream Weaver ?
[12:39] <propagandhi> uga: and if you're certain theres no other lines in the interfaces file
[12:40] <madsen> Phazeman: dpkg -l
[12:40] <propagandhi> uga: do you have webmin by chance
[12:40] <AcidPils> Phazeman: aptitude is your friend
[12:40] <Phazeman> madsen: cool ! thanks
[12:40] <iceman> bob2 i got (mychroot))iceman@icebox64:/$
[12:40] <iceman>   so that means i am in chroot ... correct
[12:40] <madsen> Phazeman: np :)
[12:40] <bob2> iceman: ok, good luck with your reinstall
[12:40] <Phazeman> AcidPils: i was asking CLI
[12:40] <calamari> madsen: excellent! :)
[12:40] <bob2> iceman: yes, I have said that about half a dozen times
[12:40] <Phazeman> madsen: it;s really hard to get used to somthing THAT different from urpmi ;-)
[12:40] <uga> propagandhi: I'm pretty sure it's not a configure issue. I've used 4 distros without problems on the same machine with the same network settings
[12:40] <madsen> Phazeman: You might want dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'}  if you just want the names of the packages. :)
[12:40] <uga> propagandhi: it's somethign to do with blocking received packs
[12:40] <Phazeman> yeah... thought of it already L()
[12:40] <iceman> bob2 i'm learning here ... what to look at .. look for, and to pay attention
[12:41] <uga> propagandhi: notice the router _does_ receive the dhcp requests
[12:41] <jsor> cafuego, if I can't install mailnews, then there isn't much of an option
[12:41] <uga> but no input is received back
[12:41] <grogoreo> well I've just restarted my computer and no breezy!
[12:41] <bob2> iceman: yes, which is why I was so expliciti
[12:41] <iceman> bob2 see flood ...
[12:41] <propagandhi> uga: yes, but you cant ping your gateway or other machines on the network right
[12:41] <P8ntKid> bob2, I got an error while its unpacking this package. Look in #flood
[12:41] <davidleeroth> I have a problem. i apt-get'd gcc and g++, but now everything I compile errors.
[12:41] <cafuego> jsor: Let me have a look...
[12:41] <bob2> iceman: (mychroot) in your prompt = in the chroto
[12:41] <madsen> K, how the heck do I block a driver (mousedev) from taking control of my tablet when I plug it in?
[12:41] <bob2> iceman: I don't know how to make that any cleaerer
[12:41] <davidleeroth> It says xxx.h not found
[12:41] <bob2> davidleeroth: install build-essential
[12:41] <davidleeroth> ok
[12:41] <uga> propagandhi: obviously, since if no dhcp responses are received, I really doubt any ping responses will reach here either
[12:41] <bob2> P8ntKid: that's fine, and not an error
[12:41] <iceman> bob2 that is what i get .. no sudo
[12:42] <alekz> can someone recommend me a nice alternative of Macromedia Dream Weaver ??'
[12:42] <bob2> iceman: right, so either install it, or su to root (I don't know how you setup the chroot)
[12:42] <cafuego> jsor: 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mailnews' isn't doing its thing?
[12:42] <madsen> alekz: vim ;-p
[12:42] <propagandhi> uga: you said even with a static IP
[12:42] <P8ntKid> bob2, Ok, i hit yes. Is it ok to eave xchat running while its upgrading?
[12:42] <bob2> alekz: you'll probably be happier on windows then
[12:42] <bob2> alekz: you may like nvu
[12:42] <uga> propagandhi: yes
[12:42] <bob2> P8ntKid: yes
[12:42] <davidleeroth> bob2, I effing love you.... You are now king of the universe and the new lead singer of Van Halen...
[12:42] <P8ntKid> bob2, Ok thanks. You are most helpful person ever.
[12:42] <plumpkin> alekz, bluefish is alright as well
[12:42] <uga> propagandhi: something is blocking network responses, and I'm not sure why
[12:42] <propagandhi> uga: I was having this problem also and thats why I am asking
[12:42] <madsen> bob2: For me vim works fine as an alternative to dreamweaver. ;)
[12:42] <cappiz> can someone tell me about a nice webcam sttream server?
[12:43] <davidleeroth> thank you so much
[12:43] <bob2> madsen: hah
[12:43] <amitayk> bob2: I'm now in the first screen dealing with the mouse. It is asking about emulating 3 button mouse.
[12:43] <starscalling> um
[12:43] <bob2> amitayk: then say yes if you have a two butotn mouse
[12:43] <grogoreo> should I do a dist-upgrade again? If I do, will the current files I downloaded be used?
[12:43] <propagandhi> I fixed mine because the kubuntu final cd when installed added a static route in  the interfaces file
[12:43] <starscalling> would anyone have another package for msttcorefonts?
[12:43] <Kassah> neat
[12:43] <madsen> amitayk: Can't harm to say yes afaik.
[12:43] <iceman> bob2 i have know idea .. how ever the web directed is what i have set up
[12:43] <propagandhi> which blocked all my traffic
[12:43] <starscalling> seems all of them time out :/
[12:43] <bob2> grogoreo: yes
[12:43] <uga> propagandhi: when I was in debian I thought I had screwed up something with the settings. Installing kubuntu now I found it's got to do with debian based distros
[12:44] <Kassah> however... the mirror'd monitors thing is kinda annoying... but so far nothing but windows autodetects the fact I have two monitors
[12:44] <iceman> bob2 here was my guide ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28debootstrap%29
[12:44] <uga> and it's something I didn't have problems with before
[12:44] <amitayk> bob2: Not it asking about enabling scroll events from mouse whell (Which I don't have)
[12:44] <madsen> uga: What's the problem?
[12:44] <bob2> starscalling: then download them manually from corefonts.sf.net, or wait and try again later
[12:44] <bob2> amitayk: then say no...
[12:44] <propagandhi> uga: have u got webmin
[12:44] <uga> madsen: dhcpclient responses arent' received by the machine...
[12:44] <DruQks> How large should I make my linux boot partition?
[12:44] <cafuego> jsor: ?
[12:44] <uga> propagandhi: unless it's default, no
[12:44] <DruQks> 1gb enough?
[12:44] <bob2> iceman: 'sudo chroot /var/chroot', from outside the chroot
[12:44] <uga> and I can't install anythign without a network
[12:45] <bob2> iceman: then, you'll be inside it, as root; run 'passwd' to set a root password for the chroot
[12:45] <madsen> uga: Hmm, i've only experienced that once in the 4 years I've been running Debian...
[12:45] <uga> madsen: no dhcp responses, nor I can ping the router with static ip settings
[12:45] <bob2> DruQks: you don't need a seperate boot partition at all
[12:45] <cafuego> DruQks: Were you the one with 15 gb free?
[12:45] <DruQks> bob2, isn't it better?
[12:45] <jsor> cafuego, yeah, any luck?
[12:45] <amitayk> bob2: Well, still the mouse is not functioning
[12:45] <DruQks> cafuego, yeah. . . was told that a seperate boot/data partition would be better.
[12:45] <cafuego> jsor: 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mailnews' isn't doing its thing?
[12:45] <cafuego> jsor: (You need the universe repository)
[12:45] <madsen> uga: You sure your NIC is setup properly? (I had a problem where it loaded 2 kernel modules for my NIC and they spent their time fighting over the NIC instead of giving me net.)
[12:45] <jsor> cafuego, wait, I missed your earlier question
[12:46] <iceman> passwd: password updated successfully
[12:46] <starscalling> thanx bob2
[12:46] <uga> madsen: NIC as in network interface configuration? yup
[12:46] <virgo> Hi, I'm wondering if it is possible to play WMV files in Ubuntu...
[12:46] <bob2> DruQks: no
[12:46] <bob2> amitayk: it never asked you for a device name?
[12:46] <DruQks> Right you are then, thanks.
[12:46] <Kassah> okay... just trying to play shoutcast... getting error: There is no element present to handle the streams mime type audio/mpeg
[12:46] <bob2> virgo: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (linked from the FAQ)
[12:46] <amitayk> bob2: Not even once
[12:46] <iceman> bob2 and a chroot prompt in ch
[12:46] <Kassah> how do I go about fixing this?
[12:46] <madsen> uga: NIC as in Network Interface Card - are you sure only 1 module is trying to take control of it?
[12:46] <cafuego> DruQks: A separate boot AFTER a windows partition is pointless. Maybe rseparate system and /home though.
[12:46] <uga> madsen: if you can access this: http://tinyurl.com/create.php
[12:46] <amitayk> bob2: Unless I'm drunk...
[12:46] <DruQks> Ok.
[12:46] <uga> madsen: it's tulip, it's loaded, but _NOT_ being used
[12:46] <uga> lsmod says 0 uses
[12:47] <uga> which gets me worried ;)
[12:47] <bob2> Kassah: you need to provide more info; e.g. what program that error is from
[12:47] <bob2> amitayk: odd
[12:47] <iceman> bob2 how to run and login to chroot ...
[12:47] <P8ntKid> I swear, bob2 is a computer.
[12:47] <P8ntKid> Lol
[12:47] <Kassah> umm... Music Player it seems
[12:47] <CrakerJak> hey guyz! can anyone please tellme how to edit my grub. so that Window is my defualt OP..?
[12:47] <madsen> uga: Yeah, it does that with my nic too - no worries there.
[12:47] <jsor> cafuego, yeah, I have universe installed.  apt-getting mozilla-mailnews returns "mozilla-mailnews: Depends: mozilla-browser (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 is to be installed"
[12:47] <uga> uhm
[12:47] <cafuego> DruQks: In which case, probably 5 GB /, 10GB /home and 512MB swap
[12:47] <amitayk> bob2: I can agree with that...
[12:47] <Kassah> Rythmbox 0.8.8
[12:47] <madsen> uga: Tried the tulip_old module? (Or whatever it's called?)
[12:47] <madsen> uga: My server's running Debian with a tulip card - no problems there. Ever.
[12:47] <cafuego> !info mozilla-browser
[12:48] <ubotu> mozilla-browser: (The Mozilla Internet application suite - core and browser), section web, is optional. Version: 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 8964 kB, Installed size: 27884 kB
[12:48] <bob2> iceman: I don't know what you mean
[12:48] <bob2> iceman: the command I gave you will get you into the chroot, as root.
[12:48] <uga> madsen: sorry, obviously I pasted the url wrong before. this guy had the same issue, this same month http://tinyurl.com/ane2g
[12:48] <bob2> CrakerJak: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:48] <cafuego> jsor: Run 'sudo apt-get update' first, then try...
[12:48] <uga> madsen: uhm. I'll check if I find such module...
[12:48] <bob2> amitayk: maybe you need to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf yourself then
[12:48] <Kassah> bob2, Rythembox
[12:48] <thestimpie> I've 3 alternatives for java, how do I make sure 1 jvm is used?
[12:49] <iceman> bob2 well i am guessin i am in chroot from the prompt .. but now ?
[12:49] <jsor> cafuego, apt-get update didn't find anything new
[12:49] <Seveas> Kassah: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[12:49] <starscalling> bob2, i just install rpm to run that font rpm right?
[12:49] <RastaMahata> update-alternatives
[12:49] <madsen> uga: What does lspci have to say about your nic?
[12:49] <CrakerJak> bob2, ok then what do I change??
[12:49] <cafuego> jsor: Hmm, do you have breezy-updates and breezy-security enabled?
[12:49] <bob2> iceman: now run the other thing I told you to run
[12:49] <jsor> cafuego, has it installed fine for you then?
[12:49] <iceman> bob2 apt-get install update ?
[12:49] <bob2> starscalling: no, this plan does not involve rpms at all
[12:50] <iceman> bob2 did the password ...
[12:50] <jsor> cafuego, I'll check my sources.list
[12:50] <bob2> iceman: no, that command does not exist, at all, ever
[12:50] <Kassah> Seveas, k
[12:50] <amitayk> bob2: How do I run an editor?
[12:50] <bob2> iceman: then 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:50] <bob2> amitayk: you've never edited a config file before?
[12:50] <calamari> after doing some updates, kstars really loads down my system.. is there a way to troubleshoot this?  top shows Xorg as using the cpu (65-70%)
[12:50] <bob2> starscalling: get the fonts themselves
[12:50] <uga> madsen: uhm, sorry, I'll be able to respond when the machine restarts. trying to rmmod tulip while eth0 was up wasn't good =)
[12:50] <iceman> sudo command not found
[12:51] <CrakerJak> bob2, So what is it that I change??
[12:51] <iceman> because i am root already .. my guess
[12:51] <madsen> uga: No, especially if you used -f . ;)
[12:51] <amitayk> bob2: In unix-like system? Never in my life.
[12:51] <bob2> CrakerJak: uh, read it? the "default" option.
[12:51] <bob2> iceman: apt-get update.
[12:51] <bob2> amitayk: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:51] <madsen> iceman: No, then it'd say that 'root' isn't allowed to sudo.
[12:51] <bob2> amitayk: or whatever the file is called
[12:51] <cafuego> jsor: There's a manual override: wget -c http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla/mozilla-browser_1.7.12-0ubuntu2_i386.deb; sudo dpkg -i mozilla-browser_1.7.12-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[12:51] <madsen> iceman: or something...
[12:51] <uga> madsen: it just seems to wait until the module is freed. I tried ifdown, but it got stuck
[12:51] <madsen> uga: :(
[12:51] <stimpie> RastaMahata, I changed Alternative to  "/usr/local/jre1.5.0_05/bin/java
[12:51] <stimpie> " but eclipse still uses "/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj"
[12:51] <iceman> bob2 it did update ...
[12:52] <bob2> iceman: now 'apt-get install wine'
[12:52] <jsor> cafuego, I have breezy-security for universe, but not breezy-updates for universe.  I'll see if I can take care of that
[12:52] <Kassah> yay... shoutcast
[12:52] <odie5533> Is there a place that has an overview of the directory structure of linux? Such as why there is /usr/lib and /lib
[12:52] <iceman> bob2 it is finaly downloading ... 14.5 mb of infor ... thanks for the extreme patients ...
[12:53] <cafuego> jsor: *nod* If it, just go the manual route. The package versions will probably sort themselves out later on when the mirrors update.
[12:53] <amitayk> bob2: I got it. Should I set it in the device field to "/dev/psaux"?
[12:53] <uga> madsen: Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation EN-1216 Ethernet adapter (rev 11)
[12:53] <bob2> amitayk: does it currently say "/dev/input/mice"?
[12:53] <amitayk> bob2: Yeap.
[12:54] <bob2> amitayk: odd that it doesn't work then, but try changing it
[12:54] <jsor> cafuego, yeah, adding breezy-updates for universe took care of the problem.  thanks for your help
[12:54] <madsen> uga: Hmm... Try 'find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -iname "*tulip*"' and see if anything comes up.
[12:54] <flint> has anyone out there dealt with making exim read more than one "canonical" machine name?  I need to have mail.flint.com get mail for flint.com as well.
[12:54] <Kassah> how do I go about setting up my desktop to span two monitors?
[12:54] <flint> gott love a good pun...
[12:55] <Kassah> is there a user friendly way of doing it?
[12:55] <starscalling> oo
[12:55] <bob2> flint: should be simple
[12:55] <flint> Kassah, not that i know of.
[12:55] <starscalling> that sounds like fun Kassah :)
[12:55] <bob2> Kassah: "xinerama" is the key word, search the wiki
[12:56] <Kassah> whee! off I go
[12:56] <uga> madsen: there's a xircom_tulip_cb, but it doesn't seem to load the card
[12:56] <madsen> uga: Hmm... Hang on a sec...
[12:56] <flint> bob2, /etc/exim/exim.conf would be the place, but what is the tag?
[12:56] <uga> madsen: uhmm... not sure if I should kiss you ;)
[12:57] <bob2> flint: you're using exim3?
[12:57] <bob2> tha's YHL, HAND territory
[12:57] <uga> madsen: something weird happenned, not sure if I was just lucky and it worked on this boot.. or ... I loaded all tulip inner modules one by one, trying to ifup eth0 on each
[12:57] <madsen> uga: Huh? I'm not sure about that either? Why would you want to do that? :)
[12:57] <HaroldJohnson_> Anyone here use text browsers?
[12:57] <uga> madsen: then I loaded tulip, and it pings my router! =)
[12:57] <uga> that's why ;P
[12:57] <jonny> cyphase...
[12:57] <flint> bob2, actually that is one of the problems bob, it appears to be exim & exim4
[12:57] <bob2> HaroldJohnson_: lots of people, best if you just ask your question
[12:57] <CrakerJak> bob2, yea I removed the savedefault from Ubuntu and added to Windowsos that it!!
[12:57] <madsen> uga: Weird!
[12:57] <bob2> flint: get rid of the exim package
[12:58] <amitayk> bob2: Well I've fuck it all up. I didn't notice this is a SERIAL connection and not a PS/2. Stupid me.
[12:58] <HaroldJohnson_> What's better: links-ssl or elinks?
[12:58] <bob2> amitayk: ah, that would be the problem then
[12:58] <bob2> amitayk: /dev/ttyS0 = com1, /dev/ttyS1 = com2, etc
[12:58] <amitayk> bob2: LOL...
[12:58] <flint> bob2, gotta go get the wife.  Rebuilding with Postfix seems like a good idea.  Thanks
[12:58] <jonny> cyphase...IT WORKED!
[12:58] <uga> madsen: in debian if I'm not wrong, it began working after I removed every iptable related module. I thought it was firewall related. Now I think it must be something debian does to the kernel...
[12:58] <HaroldJohnson_> Let me rephrase the question: What's your opinion of the best text browser out there?
[12:58] <bob2> flint: yeah, postfix will ask you this directly
[12:58] <madsen> uga: Do yourself a favour - if it's working now, do 'lsmod | awk {'print $1'} > ~/modules_list_working.txt' and save that file in case it should break on next boot.
[12:58] <bob2> HaroldJohnson_: links2
[12:59] <uga> madsen: ah sure, thanks
[12:59] <jonny> IT WORKED! IT WORKED!,cyphase!
[12:59] <nadia> Harold, Lynx
[12:59] <madsen> uga: Then you'll always know what modules were loaded when it worked. ;)
[12:59] <cyphase> hey jonny
[12:59] <jonny> woohoo
[12:59] <mike998> is there any way to make nautilus launch (for example when opening your home directory) to launch with the --no-desktop option?
[12:59] <jonny> this is so much better
[12:59] <cyphase> lol
[12:59] <cyphase> you installed it i take it
[12:59] <iceman> where can i find out hard drive space
[12:59] <madsen> uga: Uh, that might be it yeah... I think it _is_ firewall related - never used it though.
[12:59] <cyphase> tha twas fast..
[12:59] <cyphase> that was*
[12:59] <HaroldJohnson_> bob2, Why do you believe links2 is the best?
[12:59] <jonny> and, I finished my homework:)
[12:59] <bob2> HaroldJohnson_: just works
[01:00] <madsen> mike998: I think you can configure nautilus (in the prefs) not to handle the desktop at all...
[01:00] <mike998> ah-hah!
[01:00] <mike998> gconf
[01:00] <iceman> bob2 78% of wine downloaded
[01:00] <jonny> that took a lot less time than installing warty.
[01:00] <cyphase> yea
[01:01] <nadia> iceman, applications --> system tools --> system monitor --> devices
[01:01] <jonny> i dont feel like im in the 70s anymore
[01:01] <stimpie> what is a good,simple java ide?
[01:01] <madsen> mike998: Yeah, they must have removed it from the prefs. (?)
[01:01] <uga> madsen: I'm rebooting now... I hope it's not just by chance it worked, or that when I upgrade (just like debian) it won't stop working...
[01:01] <madsen> uga: K, good luck! I'm crossing my fingers! :)
[01:02] <mike998> madsen: probably like the ability to have custom icons for your launchers
[01:02] <edi> hey, im new to linux can someone please tell me how to get to the command line
[01:02] <uga> madsen: me too, it's 1am and this will be my last chance today ;)
[01:02] <madsen> uga: Heh, it's 1am here too, where are you located?
[01:02] <nadia> edi, applications --> accessories --> terminal.
[01:02] <bob2> edi: applications -> system -> terminal
[01:02] <iceman> bob2 ok still have myhroot up, and wine seems to have installed ... now ?
[01:03] <bob2> iceman: now run it
[01:03] <madsen> bob2: It's not there anymore. ;)
[01:03] <edi> thanks you
[01:03] <iceman> bob2 "type" wine "
[01:03] <uga> madsen: north spain
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> edi: You can either go to the Terminal under the Applications list, or press Ctrl-Alt-F(any number).
[01:03] <jonny> this feels a lot like mac OS 9
[01:03] <madsen> uga: Oh, ok. Denmark here. :)
[01:03] <cyphase> lol
[01:03] <jonny> no, im serious
[01:03] <uga> madsen: btw, something is b0rked and it's scary. It worked without touching anything, just ifup eth0
[01:03] <cafuego> jonny: Yes, it's nice, isn't it :-)
[01:03] <iceman> bob2 see #flood
[01:03] <bob2> iceman: yes...
[01:04] <bob2> madsen: oh, good point
[01:04] <bob2> edi: sorry about that
[01:04] <jonny> im yet to dual boot, though
[01:04] <uga> madsen: what I can't be sure is it won't fail again on following reboots :/
[01:04] <bob2> iceman: yes, drop out of the chroot and "dchroot" back in, so you're running wine as your normal user
[01:04] <madsen> uga: Hmm, true... But if you got the list of modules, then you can (hopefully) restore it to a working state if it b0rks again...
[01:05] <uga> madsen: in one of my debian tests, I found it worked once or twice after I started up using a mdk live CD
[01:05] <uga> but on the next boot it failed again
[01:05] <madsen> uga: Lol! That's fscked!
[01:05] <uga> yes
[01:05] <iceman> bob2 nope .. posted output in #flood
[01:05] <bob2> iceman: cd /home/iceman
[01:05] <madsen> uga: It's strange, I've never had that kind of problems with Debian - not plain Debian at least...
[01:05] <P8ntKid> bob2, Ok its finished. Im gona reboot and see what i get. Wish me lucj.
[01:05] <P8ntKid> luck
[01:05] <uga> madsen: I think debian felt threatened with a mdk install ;)
[01:06] <madsen> uga: Lol! Yeah, that's like my Thinkpad w/ Linux... It always behaves when there's a Mac nearby... It knows it's inferior. :-p
[01:06] <uga> madsen: this laptop has had debian on it for ages too, just I didn't upgrade for long time and the last apt get was 600 packs
[01:06] <madsen> uga: Ugh. :/
[01:06] <iceman> bob2 it hates me ... #flood post
[01:06] <jonny> how can I get KDE on breezy?
[01:06] <uga> including the gcc4 switch, etc
[01:06] <madsen> jonny: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:07] <jonny> thx
[01:07] <uga> madsen: lol@ mac thing =)
[01:07] <bob2> iceman: you still hjaven't done what I said an hour ago
[01:07] <bob2> iceman: get out, 'sudo mkdir -p /var/chroot/home/iceman ; sudo chown iceman /var/chroot/home/iceman/'
[01:07] <cafuego> jonny: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' will grab all you need.
[01:07] <madsen> Well, does anyone know how to block a driver from taking control of my tablet when I plug it in?
[01:08] <jonny> ok
[01:08] <iceman> bob2 i got windows overlapping here ...
[01:08] <cafuego> bob2: bind mount. he needs proc too, as well as /tmp
[01:08] <bob2> cafuego: yeah, true
[01:08] <cafuego> bob2: Otherwise Xauth will go poo very hard
[01:08] <bastardkestrel> hi
[01:09] <sexcopter8000m> hi, how can you retrieve your nickserv password on freenode?
[01:09] <cafuego> sexcopter8000m: You can't
[01:09] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: visit #freenode and ask politely
[01:09] <iceman> bob2 ok that worked .. posted in flood
[01:09] <cafuego> sexcopter8000m: They're stored in encrypted form
[01:10] <sexcopter8000m> ok cafuego, nalioth, thanks
[01:10] <P8ntKid> bob2, Yes! Everything went great. Thanks for the help!
[01:10] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: if you visit #freenode, they will reset it, if you linked a email address to your nick
[01:11] <bob2> P8ntKid: np
[01:11] <iceman> bob2 i take it wine may have just tried to run ... although i did not point it at a program
[01:11] <war-totem> can you actually partition with the gparted tool?
[01:11] <nalioth> war-totem: yes
[01:11] <war-totem> im not seeing how to
[01:11] <war-totem> nalioth: im not seeing any options to create
[01:12] <nalioth> war-totem: it wont work on a mounted partition
[01:12] <iceman> now how to point wine to run diablo II
[01:12] <corincole> nalioth, can u please tell me the command to completely end the gui?
[01:12] <corincole> or anyone
[01:12] <war-totem> nalioth: i have to unmount my partition? then when do i create a new one?
[01:12] <madsen> corincole: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:12] <nalioth> corincole: you mean like "ctrl-alt-backspace"?
[01:12] <corincole> no, madsen's one is it
[01:12] <corincole> ;)
[01:13] <nalioth> corincole: madsen got it for ya
[01:13] <madsen> corincole: That'll shut down X - ctrl-alt-backspace will restart it.
[01:13] <corincole> ok
[01:13] <nalioth> war-totem: got a livecd?
[01:13] <war-totem> nalioth:  no
[01:13] <corincole> or /etc/init.d/gdm start i assume
[01:13] <GTroy> what's a good access path for a second partition?
[01:13] <iceman> bob2 i have diablo II sitting in a DOS partition, now how to point Wine to that directory, which linux see's as a dos folder
[01:13] <war-totem> nalioth: is their another tooli should use for partition?
[01:13] <madsen> corincole: Well, that'll start it if it's stopped and bitch if it's not... 'restart' will, well, restart it. ;)
[01:14] <bob2> iceman: you'll have to find someone else to help you, good luck
[01:14] <bob2> iceman: cafuego outlined the steps you have to do, up
[01:14] <corincole> and whats the command line irc software again?
[01:14] <madsen> corincole: irssi-text?
[01:14] <corincole> irssi
[01:14] <corincole> :)
[01:14] <corincole> thanks
[01:14] <corincole> brb lol
[01:14] <madsen> np :)
[01:14] <nalioth> war-totem: ya got qtparted, gparted, parted, fdisk, cfdisk, and probably some others i'm forgetting
[01:15] <war-totem> nalioth: ok ill start on those then
[01:15] <war-totem> nalioth: thanks
[01:15] <madsen> corincole: Why are you shutting down X and going console? (I'm just curious 'cause everyone else seems to be going more and more gui.)
[01:15] <iceman> bob2 cant locate steps up, there lost
[01:15] <bob2> iceman: nope, scroll up
[01:15] <madsen> war-totem: I've always used fdisk/cfdisk - they're pretty neat.
[01:15] <iceman> bob2 did cant go that high up i guess
[01:16] <bob2> iceman: if your irc client is so shit that you can't scroll up, I have no sympathy, sorry
[01:16] <war-totem> madsen: do you have to use both of them?
[01:16] <amitayk> bob2: Well, I have tried what you tell me up to three ports (I don't have more) and none of them seem to work.
[01:16] <war-totem> madsen: or just one
[01:16] <iceman> bob2 i scrooled up, cant go that far ...
[01:16] <madsen> war-totem: One should suffice. :) cfdisk is probably best if you don't dig command lines and stuff. :)
[01:16] <bob2> iceman: then you need a less useless irc client.  I suggest irssi-text or xchat.  anyway, good luck
[01:17] <war-totem> madsen: :) thanks
[01:17] <bimberi> war-totem: in gparted, if you click on unallocated space the "New" button should become available
[01:18] <iceman> bob2 point me to where wine is in chroot directory
[01:19] <erisco> i am having trouble getting samba working
[01:19] <erisco> i followed the FAQ guide
[01:19] <erisco> but i still cannot view the network
[01:19] <madsen> iceman: To be frank, I think you're pushing it a little with bob2 now - he's been very helpful and patient.
[01:19] <erisco> um... specifics...
[01:20] <bob2> iceman: I've spent 2.5 hours helping you this morning, I do have to do some actual paid work at some point so I can eat this week.
[01:20] <iceman> if i can find wine's location, i can point diablo ii to run from there
[01:20] <erisco> samba appears to be functioning properly, yet when i go to Places, Network Servers, and click on Windows Network, nothing it viewable
[01:20] <amitayk> bob2: Well, I have tried what you tell me, up to three ports (I don't have more), and none of them seem to work.
[01:21] <daniel_> new ubuntu user: wondering, what is the default root password? I should probably change it, but I didn't see it asked during the install
[01:21] <starscalling> daniel_, its disabled by default
[01:21] <wotnarg> daniel_: there is no root, use sudo
[01:21] <starscalling> instead there is this awesome sudo thing :)
[01:21] <erisco> which isn't that awesome!
[01:21] <warren1> i have a thinkpad t40... and the default ubuntu install doesn't seem to do my graphic card justice... like it's full color/resolution, but like i can see the the refresh in screensavers, and when it fades out when i log out it's super chopy and stuff..... any suggestions?
[01:21] <P8ntKid> What is the thing i need to download in order to do ./configure?
[01:21] <iceman> to get this far, get wine installed, and then get let hanging .. make it all seem a waste
[01:21] <bob2> daniel_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:21] <bob2> P8ntKid: way too vague
[01:21] <erisco> can anyone assist my samba problem?
[01:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell daniel_ about root
[01:22] <nalioth> P8ntKid: build-essential
[01:22] <P8ntKid> bob2, Well. Since i just reinstalled ubuntu. It wont let me do ./configure in order to compile the source of something.
[01:22] <bob2> P8ntKid: and the source is...?
[01:22] <P8ntKid> nalioth, Thanks. Thats waht i wanted.
[01:22] <corincole> hmmm...  i forgot which server to conenct to lol
[01:22] <erisco> yes it is build-essential
[01:22] <P8ntKid> bob2, Nvm. I got it.
[01:22] <erisco> anyone going to third that motion?
[01:22] <iceman> /var/ and from there where is wine
[01:22] <corincole> btw, is there any command-line software for browsing the www?
[01:23] <bimberi> corincole: lynx
[01:23] <madsen> corincole: lynx, links, links2
[01:23] <corincole> ok
[01:23] <corincole> :D
[01:23] <DruQks> Jeebus H. Christington!
[01:23] <uga> madsen: propagandhi: anyway, thanks for the help a lot. So far it's working, even if I'm sure something smells nasty in the kernel. Hopefully following kernel upgrades will polish issues
[01:23] <amitayk> bob2: Well, I have tried what you tell me, up to three ports (I don't have more), and none of them seem to work.
[01:23] <Kassah> brb... gonna try out my edits
[01:23] <uga> now off for bed...
[01:23] <uga> goodnight
[01:23] <madsen> corincole: elinks has tabs afaicr. :)
[01:23] <corincole> and, u can guess what else i want.....
[01:23] <jonny> SO i would like to install a game, I've extracted the folder, but now what?
[01:23] <corincole> how to close gui again lol
[01:23] <corincole> (i will write it down this time :P)
[01:23] <erisco> jonny, what kind of game?
[01:24] <erisco> it isn't windows is it?
[01:24] <madsen> corincole: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:24] <daniel_> thanks all :)
[01:24] <DruQks> Allright, can someone tell me this: I've installed ubuntu, everything looks fine except for the fact that I get a black screen when the graphical interface should be loading up. It finished loading up all the checks. . . then bam, just a black screen.
[01:24] <nalioth> corincole: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:24] <madsen> corincole: mail -> pine or mutt
[01:24] <bimberi> corincole: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[01:24] <DruQks> The question is, how to fix? ;)
[01:24] <starscalling> hehe
[01:24] <corincole> madsen, u read my mind
[01:24] <corincole> :P
[01:24] <corincole> msn?
[01:24] <starscalling> and the winner is madsen :P
[01:24] <corincole> lol
[01:24] <P8ntKid> bob2, Im trying to install fluxbox and when i do ./configure I get configure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers.
[01:24] <kjdis> I've been trying to config a kernel, but video goes black right after it starts booting the kernel, and then I can still hear the HD going a bit longer and then it stops, log shows no errors, anyone got suggestions?
[01:24] <jonny> from the internet...   .tar.gz
[01:24] <madsen> corincole: centericq
[01:25] <erisco> P8ntKid, apt-cache search
[01:25] <corincole> really? for msn?
[01:25] <corincole> :P
[01:25] <madsen> corincole: RSS feeds -> snownews
[01:25] <madsen> corincole: Yup
[01:25] <erisco> P8ntKid, look for the -dev required to support those
[01:25] <bob2> P8ntKid: fluxbox is in ubuntu already
[01:25] <jonny> anyone?
[01:25] <Kassah> buya!
[01:25] <corincole> what about system monitor?
[01:25] <corincole> :P
[01:25] <iceman> (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:~$ wine /dos/diablo ii/diablo ii.exe
[01:25] <iceman> wine: cannot find '/dos/diablo'
[01:25] <iceman> (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:~$
[01:25] <erisco> jonny, what kind of game is this?
[01:25] <Kassah> first try... dual monitor works great!
[01:25] <madsen> corincole: You could also look into using bitlbee instead, then you can use your favourite irc-client (irssi of course) for msn - and in an irc-like manner. :)
[01:26] <erisco> jonny, it does not sound linux based
[01:26] <jonny> what do you mean?
[01:26] <P8ntKid> bob2, Yes. But not the newest version. I think ubuntu has 0.9.13 Im trying to get 0.9.14
[01:26] <erisco> jonny, is this a windows game?
[01:26] <jonny> linux game
[01:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell P8ntKid about xincludes
[01:26] <corincole> bitlbee?
[01:26] <erisco> jonny, well you can use apt-get for those
[01:26] <corincole> wait, brb in command
[01:26] <erisco> jonny, which game is this?
[01:26] <corincole> what is the server?
[01:26] <corincole> :P
[01:26] <wotnarg> I never quite got load advarage, whats the optimum value for it?
[01:26] <bob2> P8ntKid: they've added critical new features in a minor minor revision?
[01:26] <jonny> it's called: snowball
[01:26] <blackvd> say I'm having a weird but probably easy problem to fix. When I try and su in terminal and give it my password it says  'Authentication failure'?
[01:26] <bob2> P8ntKid: anyway, 'sudo apt-get build-dep fluxbox'
[01:27] <bob2> wotnarg: 0 = system has nothing to do
[01:27] <amitayk> bob2: I've changed to protocol to "Auto" and now everything is working fine. Thanks a lot! Good night (At least in my time zone the hour is late).
[01:27] <madsen> corincole: Oh, I can't remember - but I think bitlbee.org might now... Or bitlbee.sf.net (can't remember the url).
[01:27] <bob2> blackvd: duh, wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:27] <danl> whats teh default filesystem selected when installing ubuntu?
[01:27] <amitayk> bob2: Chag Shamach
[01:27] <wotnarg> bob2: whats the topend value, 1, 10, 100?
[01:27] <ryanpg> hi... I see "dapper exists now" where do I find the repository?
[01:27] <danl> i need to mount a drive it formatted
[01:27] <bimberi> iceman, try quoting it - wine "/dos/diablo ii/diablo ii.exe"
[01:27] <corincole> madsen, i'll check when ive left gui, what irc server are we on?
[01:27] <erisco> jonny, hmm snowball isn't supported by apt
[01:27] <bob2> amitayk: np
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> ryanpg: you don't
[01:27] <erisco> jonny, so you are looking to compile this game?
[01:27] <bob2> wotnarg: thousands if the machine is screwed
[01:27] <madsen> corincole: irc.freenode.net
[01:27] <corincole> ok
[01:27] <bob2> ryanpg: if you have to ask, you shouldn't be using it at all
[01:27] <nalioth> P8ntKid: check your private messages
[01:27] <erisco> jonny, compiling is very complicated...
[01:28] <wotnarg> bob2: So having a single or double digit load adv isnt bad?
[01:28] <natex> danl,  ext3
[01:28] <jonny> um...i dunno I just want to install it
[01:28] <danl> thats what i thought...
[01:28] <erisco> jonny, to install it you need to configure it, compile it, then install it
[01:28] <erisco> jonny, which can be a hard and dangerous thing
[01:28] <madsen> corincole: Basically, just 'irssi -c irc.freenode.net' and then (in irssi) /join #ubuntu :)
[01:28] <bob2> wotnarg: yes, it is bad
[01:28] <P8ntKid> nalioth, I did.
[01:28] <danl> it wouldn't mount... odd... all i did was accidently initrd.splash
[01:28] <iceman> bimberi (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:~$ wine "/dos/diablo II/diablo ii.exe"
[01:28] <iceman> wine: cannot find '/dos/diablo II/diablo ii.exe'
[01:28] <iceman> (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:~$
[01:28] <erisco> jonny, if you do not know what you are doing
[01:28] <ryanpg> I've been looking around ftp.ubunut.com thinking it would be uner dists/daper or testing... but nope
[01:28] <jonny> well, actually what is a game that is supported by  apt
[01:29] <erisco> jonny, i suggest you find a game supported with apt
[01:29] <nalioth> P8ntKid: then you should be set on x dev libs
[01:29] <jonny> where?
[01:29] <erisco> jonny, if it is supported by apt, why don't you apt-get install <package>
[01:29] <bimberi> iceman: where is this "dos" directory?  if it's in the current directory then leave out the first /
[01:29] <Puffball> when I type 'sudo su root' and enter the password, it switches to root, but when I try to execute anything from the terminal, it shows "Permission Denied"; any suggestions?
[01:29] <jonny> but haw do I know if it is supported by apt
[01:29] <jonny> how*
[01:30] <P8ntKid> nalioth, Thanks. Works.
[01:30] <bob2> Puffball: that's a silly thing to do, anyway
[01:30] <erisco> jonny, apt-cache search
[01:30] <erisco> jonny, apt-cache search <keyword>
[01:30] !lilo:*! Hi all. A new special interest channel is being set up for folk involved with physical therapy to compare notes, and for people who need information on physical-therapy-related topics. If this is you, please stop by ##physicaltherapy .... thanks!
[01:30] <bob2> Puffball: and you need to show us a full paste of the outputi in #flood
[01:30] <erisco> jonny, i already searched
[01:30] <iceman> bimberi dos in in the root directory ...
[01:30] <madsen> erisco: Try 'apt-cache search game' and you'll get a pretty long list....
[01:30] <Puffball> okay.
[01:30] <jonny> in the terminal
[01:30] <jonny> ?
[01:30] <iceman> a folder ... actualy a mounted dos partition
[01:30] <erisco> jonny, try apt-cache search game |less
[01:30] <jonny> ok
[01:30] <corincole> hey
[01:30] <madsen> jonny: There or search for 'game' in synaptic.
[01:30] <erisco> jonny, look for a supported game
[01:30] <corincole> :)
[01:31] <jonny> ok
[01:31] <bimberi> iceman: then you'll need to check that those directories and filenames are correct (including capitalisation)
[01:31] <thrush> jonny: compiling stuff is not a big deal  sudo apt-get install build-essential, unpack it and look at the readme
[01:31] <xxtreme> hello, does anyone know how to disable tapping on a notebook with breezy
[01:31] <erisco> jonny, wesnoth is one of my favourites
[01:31] <erisco> thrush, no it is
[01:31] <corincole> oh well, having come back, im going to go to bed, im tired
[01:31] <madsen> jonny: Yeah, wesnoth is definitely worth a try...
[01:31] <corincole> how do I exit irssi?
[01:31] <corincole> :P
[01:31] <erisco> thrush, you can break a lot of things with compiling
[01:31] <dooglus> snowball is a python game.  it doesn't need building.
[01:31] <madsen> corincole: /quit
[01:31] <corincole> k
[01:31] <corincole> thanks
[01:31] <thrush> corincole: '/quit'
[01:31] <erisco> thrush, if it is a more majour thing
[01:31] <corincole> im sure i'll be back soon to ask for more hel
[01:32] <jonny> in synaptic, how do you search?
[01:32] <nalioth> corincole: /quit
[01:32] <corincole> madsen, u always beat them to it, dont you
[01:32] <corincole> lol
[01:32] <corincole> nalioth, too late
[01:32] <erisco> jonny, did you add all the repositories?
[01:32] <cyphase> jonny, you click the big button that says search
[01:32] <cyphase> :)
[01:32] <madsen> corincole: Well, in some cases I do. :)
[01:32] <nalioth> jonny: find the button marked 'search'
[01:32] <corincole> bye all
[01:32] <jonny> ok
[01:32] <nalioth> corincole: lag is not nice, you should be
[01:32] <madsen> corincole: Bye! :)
[01:32] <erisco> is games and entertainment on default?
[01:32] <madsen> nalioth: lol!
[01:32] <erisco> or is that another repository?
[01:32] <jonny> sorry i did not see that
[01:32] <nalioth> erisco: there are games in all repos, i'm sure
[01:33] <starscalling> so how goes monday nalioth ?
[01:33] <erisco> nalioth, most likely, there are three sections to it
[01:33] <corincole> sorry nalioth, just kidding
[01:33] <corincole> :'(
[01:33] <samuel_> openoffice does not detect
[01:33] <nalioth> starscalling: monday? what's that?
[01:33] <samuel_> my printer...why is htat?
[01:33] <iceman> bimberi dang how to get thiw to see that dos directory ...
[01:33] <xxtreme> nalioth_ do you know how to disable tapping on a notebook, its too sensitive and annoying
[01:33] <starscalling> LOL
[01:34] <samuel_> it only prints to generic and it wont let me change it
[01:34] <ryanpg> sorry for repeating myself but... where does the dapper repository exist?
[01:34] <erisco> nalioth, you do not want to know what Monday is.
[01:34] <nalioth> xxtreme: i'm not much on adjusting input devices
[01:34] <iceman> or a command to run wine from dchroot
[01:34] <Puffball> bob2: I'm try to execute a file with ./, but using sudo ./..., it doesn't recognize the command
[01:34] <bob2> ryanpg: don't use it
[01:34] <bob2> Puffball: yes, that's clear
[01:34] <bob2> Puffball: the file you're trying to run is not executable
[01:34] <madsen> So... Two guys, /quit and /exit, were sitting in a row boat... /exit falls in the water and drows (oh, no!), who's left?
[01:34] <bob2> Puffball: chmod a+x ./whatever
[01:34] <bimberi> iceman: can you navigate to it? - cd /dos
[01:34] <Puffball> bob2: Oh @_@
[01:34] <ncp> any good ftp clients? ncftp and gftp is ok, but have the use for fxp and only found iglooftp that works, but its not free, so what other clients could people recommend?
[01:34] <erisco> alright back to samba... why can't i see my network? everything appears configured properly
[01:34] <bob2> haha fxp.
[01:35] <daniel_> Mount Question: When trying to mount an existing ntfs filesystem (read-only, obviously) the only way I can traverse the directories is to use "sudo" - any way around?
[01:35] <Puffball> bob2: thanks
[01:35] <samuel_> anyone
[01:35] <samuel_> ?
[01:35] <nalioth> ncp: search synaptic for "ftp" use all you find, keep what you like
[01:35] <linux-noob> Hey, IS there a Boot flopy that will have driver for a USB cdrom so i can instll ubuntu on my laptop
[01:35] <thrush> daniel mounting windows partition?
[01:35] <bob2> daniel_: umask=000 in the options field
[01:35] <nalioth> daniel_: adjust your permissions in your fstab
[01:35] <bob2> linux-noob: not simply
[01:36] <erisco> ftp? is someone looking for a ftp client?
[01:36] <ncp> erisco, yes i am
[01:36] <starscalling> ncp i happen to kinda like gftp :)
[01:36] <erisco> ncp, use mc
[01:36] <starscalling> but there are many good ones in there :P
[01:36] <madsen> ncp: lftp is nice - but command line.
[01:36] <erisco> ncp, sudo apt-get install mc
[01:36] <ncp> well both mc and gftp are fine clients
[01:36] <erisco> ncp, it is the best ftp client i have ever seen
[01:36] <iceman> ok, how to move a file from a dos partiton to the dchroot area, where i can point wine to see  it
[01:36] <erisco> ncp, gftp was absolute crap for me
[01:36] <samuel_> anyon...this is important
[01:37] <linux-noob> bob2: well does ubuntu have a networke install ?
[01:37] <thrush> midnight commander is an ftp client too?
[01:37] <erisco> ncp, couldn't do a load worth of ***
[01:37] <starscalling> mc huh, ill have to try that one :)
[01:37] <erisco> yes it is thrush
[01:37] <bob2> linux-noob: that runs from a CD, yes.
[01:37] <jonny> does macromedia flash come in synaptic?
[01:37] <erisco> I AM TELLING YOU ALL! USE MC!
[01:37] <erisco> It is the bset ftp client
[01:37] <erisco> best*
[01:37] <Seveas> erisco, stop shouting
[01:37] <bob2> jonny: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:37] <dooglus> mc?  ugh.
[01:37] <jonny> thank you
[01:37] <erisco> dooglus, aw comon, what is wrong with it?
[01:37] <starscalling> darn bob2 is fast
[01:37] <ncp> but just wanted to se if there was another program that could do the job better, but by the sound of it, i'm allready useing the best
[01:37] <dooglus> erisco: it's like linux-for-dummies.
[01:38] <iceman> Stupid restricted root access
[01:38] <erisco> dooglus, simple is best
[01:38] <jonny> is there a way to copy stuff in xchat?
[01:38] <dooglus> erisco: isn't it better to learn the command line than to rely on mc?
[01:38] <erisco> dooglus, why strain yourself?
[01:38] <linux-noob> bob2: is there any way to instal with a cd ?
[01:38] <nalioth> erisco: use all that has been suggested, keep what YOU like
[01:38] <erisco> dooglus, well mc has a bit of command line
[01:38] <bob2> iceman: no, your problem has nothing to do with that
[01:38] <cyphase> jonny, it'll copy what you select
[01:38] <erisco> whoa whoa, i just just telling that mc was the best ftp client
[01:38] <erisco> never said you HAD to use it
[01:39] <daniel_> thanks again everyone
[01:39] <linux-noob> bob2: is there any way to instal with a cd ?
[01:39] <nalioth> linux-noob: install what?
[01:39] <iceman> bob2 just directing wine to a floder on the regular filesystem... floder called dos, which is the actual dos partition on a harddrive
[01:39] <bob2> linux-noob: your question sucks
[01:39] <linux-noob> bob2: Ubuntu
[01:39] <erisco> bob2, lol
[01:39] <bob2> linux-noob: presumably you mean "Is it possible to install from a CD in a USB CD-ROM drive?"
[01:39] <bob2> linux-noob: if so, say that
[01:40] <nalioth> linux-noob: install Cds are what ubuntu come on
[01:40] <bob2> instead of useless silly vague things like "is there any way to instal with a cd ?"
[01:40] <bob2> no, the 500 000 000 cds that got sent out are not installable
[01:40] <bob2> you can only mount them on your mantlepiece
[01:40] <bob2> linux-noob: if your bios can boot the cd rom drive, it will probably work
[01:40] <erisco> oh and btw linux-noob, never, ever say "it doesn't work". I got flamed for that once =p
[01:40] <iceman> roflmao
[01:40] <bob2> linux-noob: if not, go to your LUG and ask for help
[01:40] <perlhead> Is there a way to find out exactly which patches have been applied to the 2.6.12 kernel in breezy?
[01:41] <bob2> perlhead: by reading the changelog and looking at the .diff.gz.
[01:41] <perlhead> I want to get swsusp2 working (swsusp does not work)
[01:41] <Seveas> perlhead, apt-get install linux-patch-ubuntu
[01:41] <bob2> perlhead: if it doesn't work, file a bug
[01:41] <bob2> perlhead: it should work for everyone
[01:41] <erisco> can i file a bug for samba? it aint working for me =(
[01:41] <iceman> Just pointing "wine" to the location of Diablo II.exe and i would be done i think
[01:41] <DruQks> I'm trying to edit my xorg.conf file with vim but it says it's read only. What do I do?
[01:41] <perlhead> Seveas: I got the linux-patch-ubuntu
[01:41] <bob2> if your problem is "it doesn't work with the nvidia or ati binary modules loaded", then you lose
[01:41] <bob2> DruQks: sudo vim /etc/whatever
[01:42] <perlhead> Seveas: it has a huge patch... I need to know which individual patches have been applied
[01:42] <linux-noob> bob2: ok here is my prob, I have a fujitsu p 1110 and it has no cd rom, but i baught a USB cdrom  but is still does not recognize the usb when i boot my laptop
[01:42] <bob2> linux-noob: right, which is a bios issue
[01:42] <raz0rsharp> any GTK developers here? the gtk channel is dead (specifically C and linux for GTK) ... please send me a message if you don't mnd
[01:42] <raz0rsharp> mind
[01:42] <bob2> perlhead: /usr/share/doc/linux-patch-ubuntu
[01:42] <erisco> bios, what is cool word
[01:42] <erisco> just like "ping"
[01:42] <ryanpg> ok... last try before I go off to google my way to an answer... does the dapper repository need time to spread through mirrors or am I looking in the entirely wrong places?
[01:42] <erisco> like seriously who would think of ping
[01:43] <bob2> raz0rsharp: please don't do that, it's way mroe annoying than just asking a question
[01:43] <erisco> eh, don't mind me
[01:43] <bob2> ryanpg: seriously, don't do it
[01:43] <linux-noob> bob2: i checked bios and it has he usb on, it recognize my usb flopy drive but not my usb cd drive
[01:43] <bob2> ryanpg: if you don't even know how to edit your sources.list, using the development version 1 hour after it opens is a terrible idea
[01:43] <nalioth> ryanpg: just ask your question
[01:43] <madsen> Does anyone know how to restore the original usplash? Let's just say someone accidentally installed xubuntu-artwork-usplash and saw that it was fugly and wants the original back... (I _have_ uninstalled and purged the xubuntu-artwork-usplash package.)
[01:43] <DruQks> bob2, How do I save after editing? ;)
[01:43] <DruQks> <----- doesn't know shit about vim :D
[01:43] <perlhead> bob2: I know, but it doesn tell me which patches have been applied. It just one huge patch
[01:43] <bob2> DruQks: :wq
[01:43] <raz0rsharp> bob2 sorry, how do i get user input (basically like read(0, buffer, len)) to be tied to a text view?
[01:43] <ryanpg> nalioth, ok... where's the "dapper repository"?
[01:43] <iceman> well 76% of the dang x86 cd downloaded, my be faster that getting this in 64 bit
[01:44] <nalioth> ryanpg: what is that?
[01:44] <raz0rsharp> this is for GTK
[01:44] <madsen> DruQks: :w to save :q to quit
[01:44] <DruQks> Thanks :D
[01:44] <erisco> oh well, time to pull out the good old floppy
[01:44] <bob2> raz0rsharp: I'd think you'd select() on the fd and update it yourself
[01:44] <ryanpg> nalioth, heh it's where unstable development debs make their first appearences ;)
[01:44] <erisco> forget samba
[01:44] <madsen> DruQks: np. I <3 vim. :)
[01:44] <bimberi> DruQks: some people find nano a bit easier to use
[01:44] <linux-noob> bob2: i checked bios and it has he usb on, it recognize my usb flopy drive but not my usb cd drive
[01:44] <bob2> ryanpg: why do you think you should be using dapper?
[01:44] <madsen> erisco: That's what he said... No wait.. :-/
[01:44] <bob2> linux-noob: that's great, but not an ubuntu issue
[01:45] <nalioth> ryanpg: i wouldnt advise dapper for a few months
[01:45] <erisco> madsen, i kinda lost you there :s
[01:45] <raz0rsharp> bob2 but if you type in the text view, stdin doesn't get the data ...
[01:45] <bob2> seriously, it will be utterly smashed for the next couple of weeks
[01:45] <bob2> raz0rsharp: you want to read() fro ma text box?
[01:45] <ryanpg> bob2, because building xorg 7.0RC1 from source is a monster pain, I'd rather someone else do it
[01:45] <linux-noob> bob2: well is there a letworke in stall like debain has ?
[01:45] <bob2> raz0rsharp: I really doubt they have fd's
[01:45] <bob2> linux-noob: no
[01:45] <raz0rsharp> i know, that's my question
[01:45] <madsen> erisco: Nothing, just your "time to pull out the good old floppy". :-p
[01:45] <linux-noob> bob2: ok well thanks
[01:46] <raz0rsharp> how do i tie it to an fd? if that's not possible, do you know of a way to read input in terminal-like fashion (i.e. print out a prompt and read in user input one line at a time)
[01:46] <natex> linux-noob, can you change from where you lappy boots from?
[01:46] <erisco> madsen, well i would be lieing if i said it was new, or even in the near past
[01:46] <natex> linux-noob, in the bios?
[01:46] <madsen> raz0rsharp: Can't dialog/zenity do that...
[01:46] <bimberi> linux-noob: there are some other install methods described at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[01:46] <raz0rsharp> madsen, not sure what you're talking about ...
[01:46] <linux-noob> natex: umm what do you mean
[01:46] <madsen> erisco: Huh? Now you lost me... lol!
[01:47] <madsen> raz0rsharp: And I'm not sure what you're trying to do...
[01:47] <erisco> madsen, i mean i need to spend like 5min formatting a 1mb drive
[01:47] <madsen> raz0rsharp: :)
[01:47] <erisco> madsen, it is crazy
[01:47] <iceman> all the work to get the bootstrap setup , wine downloaded, boy then no way to launch the program.... maybe x86 install might be a little faster ..
[01:47] <natex> linux-noob, when your computer boots up, can you change your bios settings?
[01:47] <madsen> erisco: Hehe, I know... I was making a pad sexual pun on your line... ;p
[01:47] <bob2> iceman: stop it
[01:47] <linux-noob> natex : in bios it is set to boot all USB
[01:47] <raz0rsharp> madsen, i'm essentially trying to write a GTK gui application where one of the frames (a text view) is basically a terminal...has a prompt, reads input, does something based on that input
[01:47] <bob2> iceman: one more threat, and you will be gone from the channel for being so bloody annoying
[01:47] <erisco> madsen, key word: bad
[01:48] <erisco> whoa error in the disk format...
[01:48] <daniel_> Music: music player complains it has no mp3 codec - where can I get one?
[01:48] <bob2> daniel_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:48] <bob2> daniel_: (install gstreamer0.8-mad)
[01:48] <madsen> raz0rsharp: Oh, sorry... I thought it was the other way around - that you wanted a nice gtk input box displayed from a shell script. Sorry.
[01:48] <erisco> oh no my whole 1mb drive is ruined! and i am out of quaters to buy a new one
[01:48] <linux-noob> natex : in bios it is set to boot all USB
[01:48] <madsen> erisco: Yeah, I know. :(
[01:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell daniel_ about mp3
[01:48] <raz0rsharp> madsen, any ideas?
[01:49] <barber> how can I tell if my ltsp workstaton is using the X settings I have for it in my lts.conf? can I get a command prompt on the local machine?
[01:49] <bob2> perlhead: bzcat /usr/src/linux-patches/i386/2.6.12/debian/patch-2.6.12-9.23.bz2 | less
[01:49] <madsen> raz0rsharp: Sorry, not a clue... It's been a long while since I did any gtk programming.
[01:49] <iceman> bob2, just seems to have got this far, and then die, and get nowhere. I just want the dang thing to work, weather that be in a new install, or the present. it this 64 install is that big a pain in the but, maybe a install where there is less configuration for a newbie, "me" might be a better idea...
[01:49] <madsen> raz0rsharp: What programming language do you write it in?
[01:50] <bob2> iceman: that's great, but this threat stuff is both stupid and of no fucking use
[01:50] <bob2> iceman: if you think reinstalling is simpler, do so
[01:50] <erisco> Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[01:50] <raz0rsharp> madsen, bob2, thanks for your help... btw (and you know this), ubuntu rocks! long redhat/fedora core user now completely converted
[01:50] <erisco> seriously...
[01:50] <erisco> it formatted correctly...
[01:50] <raz0rsharp> madsen, C
[01:50] <natex> linux-noob, ok perhaps you should try another CD to make sure it is not the cd itself
[01:50] <perre> hi, how can i uninstall open office 1.1 ??? i want to install oo2.0
[01:50] <iceman> bob2, i'd settle for a web page on telling wine where to go...
[01:50] <natex> linux-noob, try a windows or other linux install cd
[01:51] <bob2> raz0rsharp: you were asking in #gtk+ on irc.gnome.irg?
[01:51] <linux-noob> well i put the ubunto cd im my wendows comp and it butted right up
[01:51] <madsen> raz0rsharp: Hmm, there must be a sh*tload of C channels around, aren't there?
[01:51] <erisco> linux-noob, you do have this as a image cd with the .iso image burned onto it?
[01:51] <erisco> linux-noob, i made the mistake of making a data cd =p
[01:51] <perre> hi, how can i uninstall open office 1.1 ??? i want to install oo2.0
[01:52] <thrush> linux-noob: if you look at the cd in another comp its not showing like ubunt.iso is it ;)
[01:52] <raz0rsharp> nah, i will, thx for the link bob2
[01:52] <perlhead> bob2: I *know*. but that just dumps a whole lot of patches at me. What I want to know is something along the lines of "the kernel includes the frob patch v2.3, the moby patch v4.5, and the whizzie driver patch vx.y"
[01:52] <linux-noob> natex: yes
[01:52] <zblach> howdy
[01:52] <raz0rsharp> thanks all!
[01:52] <raz0rsharp> sorry to bother! good luck in your endeavors
[01:52] <zblach> i have a few Fat32 partitions i want total access to. how can i do this again?
[01:52] <DruQks> ok so, how do I get back to the "desktop" after doing the ctrl|Alt|F2 thing :D
[01:52] <zblach> DruQks, Ctrl+Alt+F7
[01:52] <zblach> or F8
[01:52] <DruQks> Ahh.
[01:52] <zblach> can't remember
[01:52] <erisco> this isn't cool... something is wrong with my floppy drive :s
[01:53] <erisco> not the floppy
[01:53] <zblach> erisco, same
[01:53] <erisco> at least i asume
[01:53] <perre> hi, how can i uninstall open office 1.1 ??? i want to install oo2.0
[01:53] <perlhead> bob2: I want to patch swsusp2 into the kernel, but it seems to be incompatible.
[01:53] <bytefoo> people still have floppy drives? :|
[01:53] <bob2> perlhead: yes
[01:53] <perlhead> bob2: with the applied patches
[01:53] <erisco> believe it or not, yes
[01:53] <linux-noob> natex: IS there a flopy that can boot up a boot mode like it would check all of th usb ports ?
[01:53] <bob2> perlhead: surgery that major will require you to either use a kernel.org kernel, or become a kernel hacker and fix it to work on ubuntu kernels
[01:53] <erisco> i could format my floppy... but i cannot mount
[01:54] <erisco> Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[01:54] <erisco> what is this error?
[01:54] <eazel7> hi ppl
[01:54] <erisco> googling now
[01:54] <perlhead> bob2: if I had a list of the patches that are included in the kernel, I could do something between the two extremes
[01:54] <madsen> erisco: the annoying kind? :-p
[01:54] <eazel7> where can I find latest mono packages for breezy?
[01:54] <noke> how do i see what version of glibc i have ?
[01:54] <bob2> eazel7: in breezy.
[01:55] <perlhead> bob2: only it seems that such a list does not exist
[01:55] <bob2> noke: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1
[01:55] <bob2> noke: why?
[01:55] <madsen> noke: dpkg -l | grep glibc
[01:55] <bob2> perlhead: I'm sure it does, in the linux-source packages
[01:55] <eazel7> bob2, not the latest ones
[01:55] <noke> to install sicstus
[01:55] <natex> linux-noob, what brand/make of laptop?
[01:55] <bob2> eazel7: the latest ones for breezy are there
[01:55] <perre> hi, how can i uninstall open office 1.1 ??? i want to install oo2.0 kan anybody help me??? please
[01:55] <erisco> madsen: lol
[01:55] <eazel7> how will be called the next released?
[01:55] <bob2> eazel7: dapper drake
[01:56] <erisco> madsen: is there a kind that is not annoying?
[01:56] <eazel7> bob2, when will it be open for development?
[01:56] <dooglus> what's the recommended way to install dapper in a chroot?
[01:56] <madsen> erisco: Sorry about all the bad jokes - I'm too tired to even try doing anything constructive... :-/
[01:56] <bob2> eazel7: an hour ago
[01:56] <bob2> dooglus: debootstrap
[01:56] <eazel7> bob2, didn't know thanks
[01:56] <bob2> dooglus: (possibly doing breezy, then dist-upgrade)
[01:56] <linux-noob> natex: Fujitsu P1110
[01:56] <dooglus> bob2: I tried debootstrap.  there's no dapper script yet
[01:56] <bob2> dooglus: as above
[01:56] <madsen> erisco: Yeah, those that say "Error: are you sure you're running as root?".
[01:56] <GTroy> uhmm module /var/log/syslog not found what do I do?
[01:56] <dooglus> bob2: ok.  that's what I was doing next.  thanks :)
[01:56] <erisco> okay heads up for 5.10 users... nautilus has a known glitch with mounting floppy drives
[01:57] <bob2> GTroy: it's a file, not a module
[01:57] <noke> i need at glibc2.3, how do i get it ?
[01:57] <bob2> noke: no,  you don't
[01:57] <bob2> noke: whatever you're doing is wrong
[01:57] <noke> why ?
[01:57] <GTroy> modprobe /var/log/syslog doesn't work
[01:57] <bob2> GTroy: duh
[01:57] <WinZ> Hey friends! Help me please: how to look what is ppp0 connection speed in console?
[01:57] <madsen> erisco: Seriously though, who (but you) uses floppies at this day and age?
[01:57] <bob2> GTroy: 'modprobe your_mum' won't work, either
[01:57] <bob2> WinZ: pppstatus
[01:57] <erisco> madsen: sure i will take that one.... still better if it just didn't complain
[01:58] <GTroy> so don't worry about that step?
[01:58] <bob2> GTroy: what are you trying to do?
[01:58] <madsen> erisco: Indeed. :)
[01:58] <DjKritical> Does anyone know of a good program for resizing jpgs & gifs?.. Not one by one, but in batches?
[01:58] <erisco> madsen: i have no clue
[01:58] <bob2> DjKritical: "convert" from imagemagick
[01:58] <madsen> DjKritical: imagemagick
[01:58] <GTroy> install netgear wg111 usb wifi adapter
[01:58] <dooglus> DjKritical: look at the 'imagemagick' package
[01:58] <bob2> noke: you need to find binaries suitable for your OS
[01:58] <zblach> what fstab params do i need for +755 status on partitions?
[01:58] <DjKritical> 3 recommendations... must be good! thanks guys
[01:58] <linux-noob> natex: Fujitsu P1110
[01:58] <noke> i need to install sicstus
[01:58] <bob2> zblach: not partitions, windows filesystems
[01:59] <madsen> DjKritical: It's Grrreat! ;)
[01:59] <zblach> bob2, Fat32
[01:59] <bob2> zblach: 022 or so
[01:59] <BrutusUnix> I have ubuntu install on my iMac but can't get it to run level 3
[01:59] <noke> and i have it for dl for glibc2.1 2.2 and 2.3
[01:59] <madsen> DjKritical: It's command-line though... Just so you know...
[01:59] <erisco> it is labelled as (Bugzilla Bug # 17562)
[01:59] <dooglus> DjKritical: it's magick!
[01:59] <DjKritical> command line =(
[01:59] <zblach> so, ro,users,umask=022?
[01:59] <dooglus> BrutusUnix: run level 3 is the same as run level 2
[01:59] <zblach> **rw,users,umask=022
[01:59] <madsen> DjKritical: lol, don't be scared, it's the best! And it's not hard to use...
[01:59] <aduryee_> I'm having a problem with my Logitech Wingman controllers.  jscalibrator isn't reading the D-pad right, and ZSNES won't read the D-pad at all (everything esle works)
[01:59] <bob2> noke: your question is crap for the following reasons: you didn't say what sicstus was, or give a url.  you didn't tell us what version of ubuntu you are using.  you didn't tell us what specific version you were trying to install.
[01:59] <erisco> google the mount floppy error and you will find something
[01:59] <WinZ> bob2, thanks!
[02:00] <aduryee_> Does anyone know how to get the D-pad working?
[02:00] <BrutusUnix> ok....but I want command line on boot
[02:00] <bob2> noke: if you get the 2.1 version it should work
[02:00] <erisco> hope that helps someone
[02:00] <Seveas> BrutusUnix, then remove gdm from runlevel 2
[02:00] <aduryee_> (I'm running Breezy, if that helps)
[02:00] <noke> and how do i get it ?
[02:00] <ford> Hi
[02:00] <balzac> could someone point me to some information on how to clean up a dependency issue? I installed some things manually that were too new and they broke dependencies.
[02:00] <noke> i'm using 5.10
[02:00] <BrutusUnix> id:2:initdefault will give me command line? in the inittab?
[02:00] <ford> the ubuntu is debian-based?
[02:00] <madsen> DjKritical: It's as simple as 'convert -scale 300x400 input_image.jpg output_image.jpg'
[02:00] <DjKritical> madsen: I'll give it a go... only because it got 3 good reviews from this channel!
[02:00] <bob2> ford: yes
[02:00] <noke> sicstus is for prolog programing
[02:00] <bob2> ford: but no the same as Debian
[02:00] <bob2> noke: yes, I know, I googled it
[02:01] <DjKritical> madsen: what about doing a whole directory?
[02:01] <eazel7> thanks bob2 for your help
[02:01] <bimberi> ford: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[02:01] <dooglus> BrutusUnix: id:2:... will give you runlevel 2 on boot.  whether that gives you command line or not depends on whether you remove gdm from runlevel 2.
[02:01] <ford> bob2, bimberi thx
[02:01] <noke> then how do i get the glibc2.1 ?
[02:01] <bimberi> ford: yw :)
[02:01] <bob2> noke: stop it
[02:01] <bob2> noke: you're being annoying and not giving anyone any useful information
[02:01] <bob2> noke: now, paste the error you got to #flood
[02:01] <aduryee_> If it helps at all, I tried two different controllers (similar models; one is wireless) and both have the same issue.
[02:02] <test34> controller-less modem means winmodem right ?
[02:02] <BrutusUnix> ok go it thanks
[02:02] <BrutusUnix> exit
[02:02] <noke> ..
[02:02] <madsen> DjKritical: Hmm, that's a little harder, but you can write a simple script for that... Like:  for i in ./*; do convert -scale 500x300 $i $i; done    That'll scale every image in the current dir to 500x300 (with relative sizes).
[02:02] <Seveas> test34, usually
[02:02] <bob2> test34: yes
[02:02] <bob2> noke: which part of that was confusing?
[02:02] <DjKritical> madsen: tricky!
[02:03] <erisco> is anyone having that mount floppy error? i found the perfect solution around it... works great
[02:03] <test34> its intel 526EP chipset
[02:03] <test34> 536..
[02:03] <erisco> most likely not... i just want to help =p
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> erisco: yeah, don't use floppies, ever
[02:03] <madsen> DjKritical: Yeah, but smart thing is that it can easilly be integrated into, say, nautilus - so you can just mark the images you want resized and then right-click and select 'resize'. ;)
[02:03] <erisco> okay that is defeating the point
[02:03] <erisco> there is seriously a mounting floppy glitch in nautilus
[02:04] <DjKritical> madsen: yeah.. or I could make a php script
[02:04] <erisco> is that not something big? i mean some people must still use floppies
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> erisco: file a bug
[02:04] <erisco> bug was already filed
[02:04] <madsen> DjKritical: You could, but it'd be easier making a bash-script I think. :)
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> erisco: tbh, I don't know anyone who uses floppies at all
[02:04] <aduryee_> Hm, anyone know what's going on when a joypad's D-pads aren't read properly?
[02:04] <erisco> i posted the bug number earlier
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> erisco: in an age of $10 USB storage
[02:04] <erisco> well now you do know someone =)
[02:05] <madsen> DjKritical: But sure, you could install php5-cli and php5-gd and use that to scale it too...
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> using floppies is an exercise in 'how quickly do you want to lose your data'
[02:05] <aduryee_> It's nothing critical, but still, I'd rather get these joypads working ASAP
[02:05] <erisco> okay you can shut-up know =p
[02:05] <Seveas> erisco, so can you...
[02:05] <warreng> i just merged apache2, but there's no apxs... how do i get that?
[02:05] <Seveas> (read that as: please adhere to the coc)
[02:05] <erisco> Seveas, sorry
[02:05] <zblach> umask=022, what does this allow for a partition?
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> erisco: floppies are an obsoleted technology
[02:05] <madsen> Ok, I installed xubuntu-artwork-usplash (don't ask!) and I regret it - how do I get back the original Ubuntu usplash? (I've already removed the xubuntu-artwork-usplash package but to no avail.)
[02:06] <erisco> HrdwrBoB, yes i know
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> madsen: it's probably a meta-package
[02:06] <HrdwrBoB> erisco: and as such should be avoided (though this doesn't make your bug any less valid)
[02:06] <madsen> zblach: It's the same as chmod 755
[02:06] <gimmulf> Shouldnt LimeWire be in the package manager?
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> gimmulf: eek. it needs java
[02:06] <kevogod> You can buy floppies in a regular store. They are NOT obsolete.
[02:06] <Seveas> madsen, afaik, sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[02:06] <erisco> HrdwrBoB, by all means what you say is true
[02:06] <dooglus> DjKritical: if you don't want to overwrite the existing images, something like this will work:
[02:06] <dooglus> for i in *.jpg; do convert photo.jpg -scale 400x300 $(echo $i | sed 's/.jpg$/_small.jpg/'); done
[02:06] <madsen> hyperactivecrond: Oh! You might have a point there. ;)
[02:06] <zblach> madsen, what to do to test settings?
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> gimmulf: use apollon or gtk-gnutella
[02:06] <erisco> HrdwrBoB, i am used to people who used tons of floppies...
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> apollon != in
[02:06] <gimmulf> hyperactivecrond:  they aint that good :)
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> but still good
[02:06] <erisco> HrdwrBoB, which i am surrounded by
[02:07] <hyperactivecrond> apollon is good imho
[02:07] <madsen> zblach: Sorry, I don't know that...
[02:07] <DjKritical> dooglus, just in console?... or is that an sh script?
[02:07] <dooglus> oops!    for i in *.jpg; do convert "$i.jpg" -scale 400x300 "$(echo $i | sed 's/.jpg$/_small.jpg/')"; done
[02:07] <erisco> HrdwrBoB, so i thought maybe this might be a big problem
[02:07] <erisco> HrdwrBoB, maybe it isn't =p
[02:07] <dooglus> DjKritical: it's a shell script, but that's what consoles run, so it's up to you.
[02:07] <dooglus> DjKritical: paste it into a file if you like - or just at the command line
[02:08] <coolaj86> anyone experienced with pvmove for dumping a few partially used physical volumes onto one or two fully used volumes?
[02:08] <coolaj86> (not yet fully used volumes)
[02:08] <iceman> Now, back... how to Point wine to the location in which i put Diablo II
[02:08] <Paradoxx> i have an external hard drive, and for some reason my box dosen't read it. It use to automatically open it like any other drive, but after i formatted it, it dosen't pick it up automatically anymore...how can i fix this?
[02:08] <hyperactivecrond> iceman: eek don't use wine use cedega for games
[02:08] <hyperactivecrond> Paradoxx: look for it in dmesg
[02:09] <hyperactivecrond> and see if it shows up
[02:09] <madsen> Brb!
[02:09] <dooglus> DjKritical: that line still isn't quite right!  I've got an extra .jpg inside the first set of quotes :(
[02:10] <iceman> aggggggggggggggggggg.          I know wine is in there ... now pointing it to the location of Diablo II
[02:10] <WinZ> hm.. pppstats doesn't show speed
[02:10] <WinZ> winz@home~$ pppstats ppp0
[02:10] <WinZ>       IN   PACK VJCOMP  VJUNC  VJERR  |      OUT   PACK VJCOMP  VJUNC NON-VJ
[02:10] <WinZ> 19027341  66546      0      0      0  |  4441811  75704      0      0  75704
[02:10] <zblach> how can i test the settings of fstab?
[02:10] <warreng> how is there an apache-dev but no apache2-dev ??
[02:10] <iceman> basic like in dos  c:\dos\Diablo ii\Diablo ii.exe now to point wine to it ...
[02:10] <bob2> warreng: what are you trying to do?
[02:11] <GTroy> uh ifup: failed to open statefile /etc/network/run/ifstate: permission denied
[02:11] <GTroy> what can I do?
[02:11] <bob2> GTroy: you'd of course run ifup with sudo
[02:11] <GTroy> cool thanks
[02:11] <warreng> bob2: use apxs
[02:11] <warreng> to compile an apache mod
[02:11] <bob2> warreng: to build *what*?
[02:12] <GTroy> ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[02:12] <bob2> that means you didn't put wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:12] <GTroy> is that hard to do?
[02:12] <warreng> bob2: i'm trying to create a custom version of mod_auth_mysql... so i'm rewriting that mod
[02:12] <Hobbsee> zblach: see if everything's mounted where it's supposed to, as the fstab shows it should be?
[02:13] <balzac> if i use synaptic: Edit  Fix Broken Packages and it wants to remove this: http://pastebin.com/404691    is this a good idea to clean up my broken dependencies like this?
[02:13] <warreng> the easiest way to build it is through apxs.. but the ubuntu install of apache2 doesn't have the sources/apxs... and there's only apache-dev, not apache2-dev packages
[02:13] <bob2> warreng: apt-cache --names-only search apache dev
[02:13] <zblach> hobbsee, what?
[02:13] <bob2> warreng: you need a specific one
[02:13] <bob2> warreng: also, I'd think modifying the existing libapache-mod-mysql-auth package would be less hassle
[02:14] <Hobbsee> zblach: what were you wanting to test?  as in, if a particular drive is mounted?
[02:15] <zblach> hobbsee, i want to apply a umask of 022 to 4 partitions
[02:15] <warreng> bob2: apache-dev only.. i don't see apache2-dev at all in apt-cache
[02:15] <iceman> to hell with it ... 94 % of x86 downloaded .... i'll wait ... because how to config 64 bit to run 32 bit, and then point wine to 64 bit or dos to find the app, just a little much .... at least a base system, might make it easier on me
[02:15] <bob2> warreng: yes, I know, that's not what I told you to search for
[02:15] <GTroy> ok I'll look silly how do you add wlan0 to /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:15] <CaBlGuY> greetiungs..
[02:15] <gimmulf> Is gnutella better than limewire?
[02:15] <CaBlGuY> greetings even..
[02:16] <bob2> GTroy: I wouldn't bother
[02:16] <Hobbsee> zblach: right, not sure how you'd test that
[02:16] <warreng> bob2: OHHHH.... i saw prefork and threaded, and i figured those were for the mpm modules, not the apahce itself
[02:16] <CaBlGuY> got a few questions about ubuntu..
[02:16] <GTroy> then how do I get my usb wifi installed?
[02:16] <nalioth> CaBlGuY: ask away
[02:17] <warreng> bob2: you rock.. thanks :)
[02:17] <CaBlGuY> im usin ARK now, which isn't supporting my video card and the packages are kinda messed up..
[02:17] <bob2> warreng: tho it does make me wonder if every libapache2-mod-whatever package includes three copies of each module
[02:17] <hyphenated> my laptop is freezing completely during heavy IO. google didn't help much. what can I do to track the problem down?
[02:17] <CaBlGuY> does ubuntu support NVidia cards and what kinda packages are included on the iISO?
[02:17] <sockpuppe1> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted is this repo ok for use
[02:17] <hyphenated> I've tried having ssh sessions open, and tailing syslog, messages and kern.log, but they didn't output anything when the freeze occurred
[02:17] <bob2> CaBlGuY: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:18] <bob2> sockpuppe1: no, don't use it
[02:18] <sockpuppe1> damn
[02:18] <BrutusUnix> My iMac locks up on boot to a gui...anyone else heard of this problem?....its in Xorg, this is my third distro
[02:18] <sockpuppe1> i just upgraded libgl1mesa
[02:19] <sockpuppe1> 6.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy1
[02:19] <balzac> if i use synaptic: Edit  Fix Broken Packages and it wants to remove this: http://pastebin.com/404691    is this a good idea to clean up my broken dependencies like this?
[02:19] <CaBlGuY> bob, ummm  is that posed to be www.wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto  ??
[02:19] <sockpuppe1> is that ok or should i try to remove said packages
[02:19] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, I have libmesa upgrades too and I don't have hoary extra
[02:19] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, they are breezy updates
[02:20] <mustard5> let me find the version
[02:20] <bob2> CaBlGuY: no
[02:20] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, 6.3.2 ?
[02:20] <sockpuppe1> yeah
[02:20] <mustard5> yeah...they are the updates to breezy today
[02:20] <sockpuppe1> 6.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy1
[02:20] <CaBlGuY> well, it's not working then..
[02:20] <iceman> 98 % of x86 back after a reinstall ...
[02:20] <CaBlGuY> I get a 401 error..
[02:21] <sockpuppe1> so i will get rid of the other repo
[02:21] <adriyel__> wine: '/home/adriyel/.transgaming/wineserver-meow' must not be accessible by other users <--- what chown/chgrp command do I use to make it available to all users?
[02:21] <bob2> CaBlGuY: works for me.
[02:21] <frank23> when should I apply the any-any update to vmware?
[02:21] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, apparently :D
[02:21] <bob2> adriyel__: must NOT be accessible by other users
[02:21] <adriyel__> ack
[02:21] <adriyel__> crap
[02:21] <bob2> frank23: to the module source
[02:21] <adriyel__> *bangs head*
[02:21] <adriyel__> what chown/chgrp commands would I use to lock it out?
[02:21] <sockpuppe1> thanks !
[02:21] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, probably not much in there that you need...check for what is obsolete when you remove it and update
[02:22] <starscalling> hey whats a good interface to just put songs on my ipod?
[02:22] <sockpuppe1> you got it man
[02:22] <sockpuppe1> starscalling rhythmbox?
[02:22] <starscalling> o.O sweet thanx sockpuppe1 :)
[02:22] <bob2> adriyel__: chmod 600 blah
[02:22] <sockpuppe1> no prob
[02:22] <starscalling> thats even in already! <3
[02:22] <adriyel__> bob2, use nautilus to fix it methinks :P
[02:23] <CaBlGuY> ok, how bout on a scale from 1 - 10 the ease of use of Ubuntu..??
[02:23] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: compared to what?
[02:23] <adriyel__> wine: chdir to /home/adriyel/.transgaming/wineserver-meow : Permission denied
[02:23] <adriyel__> wtf.
[02:23] <sockpuppe1> depends on the hardware ,am
[02:23] <frank23> bob2: did you know that vmware is distrubuting an image for their new vmware-player which is a "secure browser": essentially hoary running firefox is what they chose
[02:23] <CaBlGuY> compared to winblowz..  since Im  a Linux n00b still..
[02:24] <mauricio> hi, does anybody knows how to use msn messenger in linux?
[02:24] <sockpuppe1> well it isnt idiot proof
[02:24] <samuel_> so anyone might know what the problem is?
[02:24] <adriyel__> bob2, see the above problem? chdir to /home/adriyel/.transgaming/wineserver-meow : Permission denied...wtf?
[02:24] <yi> mauricio: use gaim
[02:24] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: well, a lot more of it "just works" but it can be a bit more of a pain to fix things....i personally find it easier to use than windows
[02:24] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, if you hang out in here...the ease of use is good :D
[02:24] <sockpuppe1> or aMSN
[02:24] <CaBlGuY> well, I know it's not idiot proof, I've been usin ARK on and off for a good year or so..
[02:24] <Hobbsee> mauricio: gaim, kopete, aMSN
[02:25] <mauricio> where can I find them?
[02:25] <bob2> frank23: hah, pimp
[02:25] <davidleeroth> I have a prob... I am creating a kustom kernel and I dont have mkinitrd. Where can this be downloaded?
[02:25] <sockpuppe1> apt-get install gaim
[02:25] <sockpuppe1> or amsn
[02:25] <bob2> adriyel__: you can't change into dirs you don't have permissions for
[02:25] <iceman> whats the iso app for ubuntu in gnome
[02:25] <adriyel__> ...the folder belongs to my account
[02:25] <bob2> adriyel__: 600 denies you the ability to chdir (since it doesn't allow execute)
[02:25] <ramza3> how do install just plain *.deb files
[02:25] <ramza3> I
[02:25] <bob2> adriyel__: you can make files inaccessible to yourself
[02:25] <CaBlGuY> the only reason I'm lookin to change distros is support, cause ARK isn't supporting my Video card ,,  and I don't know how to "build" it so it can use it..
[02:26] <davidleeroth> ramza dpkg -i xxx.deb
[02:26] <mustard5> davidleeroth, synaptic?
[02:26] <bob2> adriyel__: tho yo ucan of course immediately giveyourself permission back again
[02:26] <samuel_> how do i upgrade fomr 4.05 to breezy?
[02:26] <CaBlGuY> so, I need a distro that requgnizes everything..
[02:26] <ramza3> davidleeroth, what about from a URL
[02:26] <Kassah> so umm... is there anyway to play MP3s on RythmBox? (aka Gnome Music Player)
[02:26] <adriyel__> bob2, it works now
[02:26] <bob2> CaBlGuY: so, give ubuntu a go
[02:26] <bob2> CaBlGuY: no one can guess if it will work for you or not
[02:26] <bob2> Kassah: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:26] <davidleeroth> ramza, wget xxx.deb, then dpkg -i xxx.deb
[02:26] <bimberi> Kassah: install gstreamer0.8-lame (from universe)
[02:26] <bob2> Kassah: that is in the FAQ
[02:26] <mauricio> so, do I have to download something?
[02:26] <davidleeroth> mkinitrd is not in the apt repo
[02:26] <ramza3> davidleeroth, ah
[02:26] <adriyel__> here's to getting HL2 running, and being windows free!
[02:26] <iceman> What app is the for burning iso's from gnome ...
[02:26] <davidleeroth> i really need that
[02:26] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: use a live cd to check that you have an internet connection, if you want - as long as you have internet, you have the resources to fix anything else that doesnt work
[02:26] <HumpBack> Hello
[02:26] <dooglus> bob2: I installed a breezy chroot, then did a 'dist-upgrade' to dapper and nothing needed upgrading.  is that to be expected?
[02:27] <CaBlGuY> has anyone else had problems with Nvidia card sin Ubuntu??  or do they generaly just work/..
[02:27] <CaBlGuY> ?
[02:27] <ramza3> is ubuntu cooler than gentoo
[02:27] <P8ntKid> How come i just installed fluxbox and it doesnt show up on my sessions list.
[02:27] <ramza3> I am a former gentoo user
[02:27] <davidleeroth> ramza, of course!
[02:27] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: dont have one, but they work better than ati ones, i hear
[02:27] <adriyel__> bob2, got an error, says could not connect to steam network, wtf?
[02:27] <sockpuppe1> cablguy did you install the drivers
[02:27] <dooglus> ramza3: if you're asking which is "cooler" you probably want to stick with gentoo :)
[02:27] <davidleeroth> gentoo is pretty cool
[02:27] <CaBlGuY> ARK isn't supporting the drivers for my card..
[02:27] <aimaz> CaBlGuY, i have a GeForce2 and it worked fine with default install of ubuntu
[02:27] <ramza3> davidleeroth, I got tired of the compiles
[02:27] <bob2> dooglus: yeah, it only opened like an hour ago, stuff is pribably still building
[02:27] <bob2> CaBlGuY: they generally work fine
[02:27] <marko> mine g force2 works great
[02:27] <davidleeroth> hell yeah ramza i hear ya
[02:27] <mustard5> davidleeroth, k.. I have two hits with a search on mkinitrd  ...mkinitrd-cd and bootcd-mkinitrd
[02:27] <frank23> CaBlGuY: nvidia mostly just work. some people might have problems with very old or very new cards
[02:28] <bob2> CaBlGuY: this is not an ark support channel, sorry
[02:28] <adriyel__> bob2, is there any reason why steam under cedega wouldn't be able to connect to the internet?
[02:28] <davidleeroth> mustard, those are of no use
[02:28] <bob2> CaBlGuY: if you want to try ubuntu, download it and install it
[02:28] <ryanpg> hehe... wow I was able to see dapper in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ for a while but then a refresh resulted in it's abrupt dissapearance, oh well I discovered xorg 7.0RC1 isn't there yet anyway :(
[02:28] <aimaz> CaBlGuY, if you want faster games though you should use the actual nvidia driver
[02:28] <sockpuppe1> i have the weirdest thin i did what gentoo did with ubuntu...sort of
[02:28] <CaBlGuY> bob, I know..
[02:28] <CaBlGuY> :p
[02:28] <bob2> adriyel__: no idea, #cedega, perhaps
[02:28] <sockpuppe1> i like to compile from source
[02:28] <CaBlGuY> I'm just tryin to get all the info I can b 4 I swap distros.
[02:28] <marko> I heard older that gf2 make problems
[02:28] <adriyel__> indeed.
[02:28] <bob2> ryanpg: yes, it won't be thee for some time
[02:28] <mustard5> davidleeroth, I figured I was just being redudant soz :)
[02:28] <davidleeroth> ramza, when i installed it it had no installed (it was a bitch)
[02:28] <P8ntKid> How come i just installed fluxbox and it doesnt show up on my sessions list.
[02:28] <bob2> sockpuppe1: compiling librarires from source is going to lead to pain
[02:28] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: just give it a shot - it's way easier to figure out something when you see it in front of you :)
[02:28] <dooglus> ryanpg: it's still there.
[02:28] <davidleeroth> anyone know where mkinitrd can be found?
[02:28] <marko> I have prob with gnome-dictionary
[02:29] <CaBlGuY> ok,
[02:29] <ryanpg> bob2, dunno... it's in debian unstable (or experimental)
[02:29] <CaBlGuY> thanks guys..
[02:29] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: no problems
[02:29] <adriyel__> bob2, #cedega appears to be dead... :( *cries*
[02:29] <bob2> ryanpg: yes, ubuntu does not get X from Debian
[02:29] <ryanpg> dooglus, yeah I've never had such a thing happen before... dapper was in /ubuntu/dists but now it's gone
[02:29] <bob2> in the past, anyway
[02:29] <bob2> davidleeroth: breezy uses initramfs
[02:29] <dooglus> ryanpg: you can't see http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/ then?
[02:29] <marko> gnome-dict seem to look for word as I type, that makes app to be very slow
[02:29] <davidleeroth> thank you!
[02:29] <ryanpg> bob2, I thought daniels was maintaining it
[02:30] <ryanpg> dooglus, nope\
[02:30] <bob2> ryanpg: in ubuntu, yes, but not in debian (tho he helps david)
[02:30] <marko> nothing in preferences to fix that
[02:30] <davidleeroth> bob2, where would i get this?
[02:30] <Kassah> bob2, umm... just wondering... can't distribute mp3 decoder.... but umm... can link to xmms which comes with an mp3 decoder?
[02:30] <bob2> davidleeroth: I don't know what you're trying to do
[02:30] <dooglus> ryanpg: maybe this is something to do with archive.ubuntu.com resolving to 3 different IP addresses - maybe they aren't all up to date yet.
[02:30] <sockpuppe1> bob definitely
[02:30] <bob2> Kassah: yes, it's a legal grey area and people are not being consistent about it
[02:30] <sockpuppe1> dependency hell
[02:30] <ryanpg> dooglus, weird eh? I was able to get the Package.bz2 though which is all I wanted
[02:30] <Kassah> ahh... just checking
[02:30] <bob2> Kassah: there are no mp3 decoders on the CD, tho, which I thin kwas the aim.
[02:30] <P8ntKid> How come i just installed fluxbox and it doesnt show up on my sessions list.
[02:30] <adriyel__> bob2, I've gotta get another bloody version of cedega. CRAP
[02:30] <davidleeroth> bob2, just forget it... i found mkinitrd
[02:30] <davidleeroth> online
[02:31] <ryanpg> dooglus, I suspected that was the case though I've gotten no help here confirming that :P
[02:31] <Kassah> bob2, that's good
[02:31] <bob2> ryanpg: archive.ubuntu.com points at 3 machines, perhaps they're not all in sync
[02:31] <bob2> adriyel__: ok
[02:31] <sockpuppe1> you guys I was thinking of using a mini-itx as a firewall
[02:31] <bob2> P8ntKid: it won't unless you add it; search the wiki for fluxbox
[02:31] <ryanpg> bob2, yeah that's what I was saying/asking earlier
[02:31] <jonny> I made KDE my default, but I would like to switch back to GNOME how can I do this?
[02:31] <bob2> davidleeroth: I think you're about to make your system unbootable; what is your aim
[02:31] <sockpuppe1> preferably with monowall
[02:31] <apokryphos> jonny: from the login screen
[02:31] <ryanpg> ok... last try before I go off to google my way to an answer... does the dapper repository need time to spread through mirrors or am I looking in the entirely wrong places?
[02:31] <odie5533> Are there any good bittorrent clients for Ubuntu?
[02:32] <Hobbsee> jonny: very easily, at the login screen, click gnome, and it will give you a dialog to use it as default
[02:32] <apokryphos> ryanpg: it, of course, takes time. You shouldn't be using it though.
[02:32] <sockpuppe1> odie there is azureus   (don't flame me)
[02:32] <ryanpg> oops didn't mean to spam that... was going to quote instead... anyway now that I know I'm not crazy I'll be using it as soon as the xorg stuff goes online
[02:32] <davidleeroth> bob2, I am making a custom kernel... all i need to do now is make an initrd
[02:32] <davidleeroth> then edit grub
[02:32] <jonny> I tried but it did ask me if I would like to make GNOME my default.
[02:32] <odie5533> When I downloaded the jar file of azureus it wouldn't run
[02:32] <ryanpg> I've learned I can't live without Exa + composite + xcompmgr :D
[02:33] <davidleeroth> bob2, do you understand my goal now?
[02:33] <jonny> can i do it through the termanil?
[02:33] <sockpuppe1> install java
[02:33] <odie5533> It is
[02:33] <sockpuppe1> blackdown
[02:33] <odie5533> Sun Java
[02:33] <sockpuppe1> no sun
[02:33] <sockpuppe1> blackdown
[02:33] <odie5533> I had tried blackdown
[02:33] <davidleeroth> use sun java
[02:33] <odie5533> ill try again
[02:33] <jonny> terminal
[02:33] <jonny> *
[02:33] <sockpuppe1> apt-cache search blackdown
[02:33] <sockpuppe1> get rid of sun
[02:33] <davidleeroth> bob2????
[02:34] <jonny> can I change my default from KDE to GNOME in the terminal
[02:34] <apokryphos> sockpuppe1: er, why?
[02:34] <dooglus> when I install packages in breezy, it gets stuck at the "Reading database..." bit for a long time, whereas my new chroot environment gets past that very quickly.  Can I re-create the database somehow to speed it up?
[02:34] <sockpuppe1> i ran into the same problem that he did
[02:34] <dooglus> jonny: I got the 'snowball' game working if you're interested.
[02:34] <apokryphos> jonny: GDM won't respect the default you set there, but startx can if you like
[02:34] <sockpuppe1> and its what worked for me
[02:34] <jonny> wow! how?
[02:34] <jonny> dooglus
[02:35] <apokryphos> sockpuppe1: er, with sun? Never had that problem.
[02:35] <dooglus> jonny: first install package 'python2.4-pygame', then cd into the 'snowball' directory and type "python snowball.py"
[02:35] <sockpuppe1> not with sun itself
[02:35] <sockpuppe1> azureus went a little crazy
[02:35] <jonny> ok i might give it a try later, is it fun?
[02:35] <dooglus> jonny: it's a Python game, so you don't need to build anything.  But it uses the pygame libraries.
[02:35] <odie5533> azureus won't even run :S
[02:35] <sockpuppe1> pinpointed the prob as java
[02:35] <Fuji-san> Knorrie
[02:35] <frank23> dooglus: you just have more package installed in your main system than in your chroot. I would say its normal to be faster in  the chroot
[02:35] <Fuji-san> KNORRIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:35] <Fuji-san> :P
[02:35] <dooglus> it's not the best, no.  kind of a puzzle game - like solomon's key if you know that.
[02:35] <jonny> is it fun, dooglus?
[02:36] <Fuji-san> KNORRIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:36] <jonny> p sorry
[02:36] <marko> does anybody have problems with gnome-dictionary, it seems very buggy to me?
[02:36] <jonny> i did not see that up there
[02:36] <dooglus> frank23: right, but it's SO much slower, and I don't have a lot more installed.  I was wondering if my database has got fragmented, or some such.
[02:36] <sockpuppe1> bob2 do yo think the mini-itx firewall thing is a good idea
[02:36] <davidleeroth> Does anyone know how to create an initrd from a vmlinuz file?
[02:36] <DruQks> Anyone here have an acer travelmate 8100 comp?
[02:36] <bob2> davidleeroth: if you're making a a custom kernel, why on earth are you using an initrd/
[02:36] <frank23> dooglus: I don't know...
[02:36] <bob2> sockpuppe1: if you have the money to burn
[02:36] <davidleeroth> bob2, so all i need is a vmlinuz file?
[02:37] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: it will work
[02:37] <dooglus> frank23: I've had the same database for 9 months or so I guess, installed and removed a whole load of stuff...
[02:37] <Knorrie> bob2: tnx
[02:37] <Xenguy> Fuji-san: now behave ;-)
[02:37] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: find you a beat-up-486 and use it for a firewwall
[02:37] <jonny> OK so when I log out and click GNOME it dies not ask me if I would like to set it as my default.
[02:37] <Fuji-san> ok
[02:37] <Fuji-san> :-)
[02:37] <sockpuppe1> but should I do that as opposed to just buying a regular firewall?
[02:37] <sockpuppe1> lol nalioth
[02:37] <sockpuppe1> not enough room
[02:38] <CosmoDad> davidleeroth: mkinitd can create initial ramdisks, but I'd also propose not to create initrd images unless necessary
[02:38] <Fuji-san> > Cannot join channel: #ubuntu-nl (You are banned) <--- i was banned for being half chinese and being proud of the fact that CHina will dominate
[02:38] <Fuji-san> :)
[02:38] <Fuji-san> damn dutch
[02:38] <jonny> anyone know?
[02:38] <davidleeroth> ok brb
[02:38] <Fuji-san> :-)
[02:38] <davidleeroth> gonna test my kernel
[02:38] <apokryphos> Fuji-san: this is off-topic
[02:38] <nalioth> Fuji-san: that is off topic
[02:38] <bob2> Fuji-san: enough
[02:38] <bob2> wtf
[02:38] <gnomefreak> dapper exists now?
[02:38] <bob2> sockpuppe1: I'd certainly go with a mini-itc and linux/bsd ahead of a commercial firewall box
[02:38] <Knorrie> Fuji-san: go sleap now, it's enaough
[02:38] <bob2> gnomefreak: yes, with nothing in it
[02:39] <Fuji-san> lol
[02:39] <bob2> sockpuppe1: but I'm just special like that
[02:39] <Knorrie> s/enaough/enough/
[02:39] <odie5533> when I try to use a sudo command I get this - sudo: can't open /var/run/sudo/odie5533/tty2 read only
[02:39] <gnomefreak> lol give it a month or 2 they should have 1st beta out
[02:39] <sockpuppe1> well is it better to use linux or bsd for that purpose (no flames please)
[02:39] <bob2> odie5533: sounds like your root filesystem is trashed
[02:39] <odie5533> that doesnt sound good
[02:39] <bob2> sockpuppe1: whichever you're more comfortable with, basically
[02:39] <odie5533> is that bad?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrr@bsd
[02:40] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: using a 486 (or mini itx) allows more configuration then a "off the shelf" firewall
[02:40] <bob2> odie5533: "yes"
[02:40] <odie5533> Fixable?
[02:40] <bob2> odie5533: oh, wait, I mean "really bad"
[02:40] <bob2> odie5533: look at the end of "dmesg"
[02:41] <sockpuppe1> I think ill try it with either monowall or some other distro
[02:41] <apokryphos> Fuji-san: this is an English speaking channel, quite obviously
[02:41] <bimberi> sockpuppe1: there's also IPCop and Smoothwall
[02:41] <apokryphos> please don't be annoying
[02:41] <cronic> How can I autodetect a new NIC in console?
[02:41] <Fuji-san> soz
[02:41] <odie5533> I have some read errors on hda and then I have apm: disabled on user request
[02:41] <cronic> odie5533: New hard drive time
[02:41] <Xenguy> sockpuppe1: shorewall  ?
[02:41] <odie5533> that bad?
[02:41] <cronic> yessir
[02:42] <Fuji-san> i ont talk in that third world language again apokryphos.. :-)
[02:42] <CosmoDad> cronic: lspci and modprobe maybe?
[02:42] <cronic> read errors are baaaad
[02:42] <Fuji-san> wiont*
[02:42] <odie5533> is there a way to make sure its that bad?
[02:42] <Fuji-san> ;)))
[02:42] <odie5533> like have a program copy files to hd, then verify their integrity?
[02:42] <apokryphos> Fuji-san: ok, just keep talk in here on-topic -- this is a help channel. #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter =)
[02:42] <odie5533> before I go buying a new hdd...
[02:42] <balzac> if i use synaptic: Edit  Fix Broken Packages and it wants to remove this: http://pastebin.com/404691    is this a good idea to clean up my broken dependencies like this?
[02:42] <jonny> how can I how can I create a new network?
[02:42] <cronic> CosmoDad: lspci doesn't see it..... odd.
[02:42] <bob2> balzac: stop pasting non-ascii stuff in here
[02:43] <P8ntKid> how do i get fluxbox to show up on the Sessions list?
[02:43] <balzac> non-ascii?
[02:43] <bob2> odie5533: read the output of dmesg and paste it to #flood
[02:43] <CosmoDad> cronic: is it an PCI card actually?
[02:43] <cronic> Yes.
[02:43] <cronic> There is one onboard, and another PCI slotted
[02:43] <gnomefreak> if im not mistaken most if not all of those packages are part of build-essentail
[02:43] <odie5533> bob2: its a REALLY REALLY long output
[02:43] <cronic> It sees the onboard one, but not the carded NIC
[02:43] <nalioth> P8ntKid: if you install it from synaptic, it should make an entry
[02:43] <odie5533> I mean, extremely long
[02:43] <CosmoDad> cronic: and "lspci|grep -i ethernet" doesn't yield anything?
[02:43] <bob2> odie5533: the last 20 lines to #flood
[02:43] <P8ntKid> nalioth, I didnt. I downloaded it from fluxbox.org
[02:44] <sockpuppe1> does anyone here use a similar device as I was describing above?
[02:44] <cronic> CosmoDad: it's Ethernet -- and no it only shows the onboard
[02:44] <bob2> balzac: tell it to install ubuntu-desktop and build-essential
[02:44] <bob2> balzac: also, paste your /etc/apt/sou to #flood
[02:44] <cronic> I already did that. ;-p
[02:44] <CosmoDad> cronic: what about dmesg?
[02:44] <cronic> Nothing.
[02:44] <nalioth> P8ntKid: visit /usr/share/xsessions  and monkey-see monkey-do
[02:44] <odie5533> bob2: is there a way to paste from a seperate session (like CTRL [F2]  paste goes over to my main CTRL F7)?
[02:44] <cronic> Only shows ETH0
[02:44] <odie5533> because I can't open a terminal on this session anymore for some reason :S
[02:44] <jonny> how do I get fluxbox?
[02:44] <Mr_Milenko> fluxbox.org
[02:44] <Knorrie> bob2: it's ok so with fuji-san tnx
[02:44] <jonny> ok
[02:44] <titanium> bob2: i now have a completely clean install of ubuntu breezy. the desktop is still loading. now, i've added Seveas' packages to my sources.list; apt-get install ssh and then apt-get install freenx? anything im missing?
[02:44] <mgwst3> does anyone know where i can get a copy of 1280patch.c?
[02:44] <CosmoDad> cronic: sounds like a hardware issue to me..
[02:44] <balzac> bob2, so i don't do the fix thing, i just reinstall those packages you mentioned?
[02:45] <Mr_Milenko> johny: they have deb packages but there outdated
[02:45] <cronic> I know the card is good, I just pulled it out of a machine....
[02:45] <Mr_Milenko> id compile from source :)
[02:45] <Knorrie> bob2: sry bout this anyway
[02:45] <bob2> odie5533: gpm, but that's not simple.  switc to #flood and try '/exec -o dmesg | tail -n20'
[02:45] <bob2> Knorrie: ?
[02:45] <CosmoDad> cronic: maybe switch pci slots to make sure it's no IRQ conflict or something
[02:45] <bob2> odie5533: yes, you don't be able to most things, your root filesystem, is read-only now
[02:45] <bob2> titanium: sounds reasonable
[02:45] <cronic> Yeah that's what Im going to do. it's all I can think of...
[02:45] <cronic> be back in a few.
[02:45] <Strog> jonny: Disregard that flippant answer. You can get fluxbox with apt-get or synaptics. It's better to grab that way since it's already patched and ready to go. ;-)
[02:46] <bob2> jonny: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[02:46] <titanium> bob2: ok. also, apt-get ssh or apt-get openssh-server? or does it matter?
[02:46] <ThomasM> titanium: 'apt-get install ssh' will install openssh-server and openssh-client, methinks.
[02:46] <Strog> titanium: apt-get install packagename
[02:46] <Knorrie> bob2: fuji-blah was really annying at ubuntu-nl he got banned there and started hunting me here, so he solicited for this ban
[02:46] <odie5533> why would it be read only? Is there anything I can do to fix this or do I need to just reinstall ubuntu?
[02:46] <jonny> Thank you
[02:46] <bob2> titanium: the latter
[02:47] <bob2> Knorrie: ah, right, thanks :)
[02:47] <leonel> where can I read about the  Mono legal issues with  Ubuntu ?
[02:47] <balzac> bob2, did you mean I need to only talk about command-line analysis and solutions, rather than discussing menu commands from synaptic?
[02:47] <Knorrie> bob2: np tnx
[02:47] <bob2> odie5533: it would be read-only because the kernel thought it was about to explode
[02:47] <bob2> odie5533: ie it was giving unfixable errors
[02:47] <odie5533> unfixable... would a reinstall of ubuntu fix them?
[02:47] <bob2> balzac: I mean "I have no idea what synapticd is doing, show us your /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:47] <bob2> odie5533: depeds wnat the problem is
[02:47] <bob2> odie5533: didn't we have this conversation a month ago?
[02:48] <bob2> leonel: there are none
[02:48] <Alchemist_> odie - if you have data on there spinrite can sometimes get it back (grc.com)
[02:48] <odie5533> I don't believe so
[02:48] <adriyel__> bob2, I just got threatened with being banned from #cedega by cyph
[02:48] <balzac> ah, that's relevant. i added at least one 'universe' - hoary extras
[02:48] <cyphase> hey jonny
[02:48] <cyphase> how's it going?
[02:48] <titanium> i swear to god, if freenx still doesnt work after this, ill stab myself
[02:48] <balzac> i can get that sources list, brb
[02:48] <zdennis> After upgrading to breezy, Eclipse 3.1 screws up with cvs
[02:48] <jonny> hey
[02:48] <bob2> adriyel__: charming
[02:49] <leonel> bob2, AFAICT   RAND is not compatible with GPL    and mono is RAND
[02:49] <spanglesontoast> hmmm
[02:49] <odie5533> bob2: should that dmesg command output nothing on a good stable system?
[02:49] <zdennis> anyone else see this problem? I get "An intenal error occured during: 'Synchronizing CVS'"
[02:49] <adriyel__> bob2, yeah, I suddenly exclaim that I got it working, and all of the sudden I am a pirate
[02:49] <zdennis> i get this whenever i try to do any cvs activities
[02:49] <bob2> leonel: RAND? as in Reasonable And Non-Discrimantory licensing?
[02:49] <bob2> adriyel__: haha, awesome
[02:49] <bob2> zdennis: as in, when you use the "cvs" command line program?
[02:49] <cyphase> jonny, is everything working?
[02:49] <zdennis> no, when using Eclipse's builtin CVS
[02:49] <bob2> odie5533: no, it will just output some kernel boot messages
[02:50] <adriyel__> bob2, its ok, I like this channel better. mutters....pr***s....
[02:50] <leonel> bob2, yes  Reasonable to one person means 1 thing  and for other person can mean other thing
[02:50] <jonny> this command does not work for me :sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[02:50] <bob2> zdennis: talk to an ecplise person
[02:50] <DruQks> Can anyone help me with ubuntu in a travelmate 8104 laptop? :D
[02:50] <bob2> leonel: RAND is code for "big companies get to screw you over"
[02:50] <zdennis> heh, the problem didn't exist until i upgraded to Breezy =)
[02:50] <grodius> What's the command to update all programs in term?
[02:50] <bob2> leonel: Mono is absolutely not under a RAND license
[02:50] <leonel> bob2, RAND is not FREE  so  not  GPL compatible
[02:50] <odie5533> well, im off to reinstall. Bye
[02:50] <bob2> leonel: it's under the BSD license
[02:50] <bob2> grodius: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[02:50] <bob2> DruQks: be way way less vague and maybe someone will
[02:51] <titanium> bob2: sigh, installing freenx now, cross your fingers :(
[02:51] <leonel> bob2, ok mono bsd   C#  rand
[02:51] <jonny> cyphase: all except for 3 things 1.that command doesn't work 2.Im stuck in KDE as default 3.I do not know how to settup a new network
[02:51] <bob2> leonel: wtf are you talking about?
[02:51] <cyphase> ...
[02:51] <cyphase> how is KDE default?
[02:51] <bob2> leonel: C# is an ECMA standard, under a "do whatever you want" license
[02:51] <DruQks> bob2, well. . . apparently having your wireless card in the travelmate 8104 work is quite a hassle. . . as well as the sound and some other stuff.
[02:51] <leonel> bob2, C# is ECMA AND RAND
[02:51] <bob2> DruQks: is it too late to return it?
[02:51] <leonel> that's my concern
[02:51] <bob2> leonel: I think that is not the case
[02:51] <balzac> bob2, i've pasted my etc/apt/sources.list in #flood. Also, I happen to know I created these broken dependencies by doing dpkg outside the apt system
[02:52] <DruQks> I need a wiz to read through "http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=46536" and help me with it :)
[02:52] <bob2> leonel: unless you have a link demonstrating that, I can only assume you're misinformed
[02:52] <Demon_stroke> help: No active partition error after ubuntu installation
[02:52] <DruQks> bob2, yes, much too late :)
[02:52] <jonny> I installed kubuntu and it will no dialoge box comes up when I switch back to GNOME so I have to manually do it every time
[02:52] <robotgeek> leonel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:52] <leonel> bob2, better yet  you show me your links
[02:52] <leonel> anyway
[02:52] <ceruleat> anyone able to get WPA+TKIP working with a Linksys BEFW11S4?
[02:52] <leonel> keep rocking
[02:52] <pupil> I need to get realplayer,,. is there a deb for it?
[02:52] <bob2> leonel: no
[02:52] <davidleeroth> my kernel didnt work :(
[02:53] <bob2> anyway, good luck
[02:53] <bob2> DruQks: why on earth are you compiling a kernel to begin with?
[02:53] <davidleeroth> Who is DruQks?
[02:53] <cyphase> jonny, did you download kubuntu?
[02:53] <DruQks> To get stuff to work?
[02:53] <jonny> Oh, cyphase, if you have a AIM screenname give it to me because I need to ask you something about Bttorrent but not here
[02:53] <pupil> I need to get realplayer,,. is there a deb for it?
[02:53] <davidleeroth> bob2, you seem to know a lot about this stuff... could you help me
[02:54] <aeon17x> pupil: go to the official Real site.
[02:54] <jonny> and not kubuntu itself, just KDE
[02:54] <jonny> Bittorrent*
[02:54] <davidleeroth> when i booted up, it said stuff about modules and no such directory
[02:54] <bob2> davidleeroth: not unless you actually explain your goal
[02:54] <bob2> davidleeroth: I've asked 3 times now and you still haven't told me
[02:54] <davidleeroth> bob2, my goal is just to have the latest kernel with my sound driver module installed
[02:54] <davidleeroth> for some reason my old kernel didnt have it
[02:54] <davidleeroth> thats it
[02:54] <bob2> davidleeroth: and the name of the module is?
[02:55] <DruQks> bob2, the forum page I linked to says that I have to get a new kernel and change it in order for my wireless card, sound and misc. buttons on my laptop to work.
[02:55] <Demon_stroke> help needed, no active partition...help please
[02:55] <titanium> bob2: PRAISE JESUS, IT WORKS
[02:55] <bob2> titanium: yay
[02:55] <DruQks> Problem is that I've never touched linux before and I think getting this far has been a miracle :D
[02:55] <davidleeroth> i did make xconfig and checked it, then I make'd, make'd module_install, then make'd install the kernel
[02:55] <bob2> davidleeroth: and the name of the module is...
[02:56] <davidleeroth> then you told me i didnt need an initrd
[02:56] <Alchemist_> echo echo
[02:56] <joshua> What's the name of the package for the firefox java plugin.  I can't find it via aptcache, and i need to use a java applet.
[02:56] <bob2> davidleeroth: you can imagine how frustrating it is when I try to help you and you refuse yto answer simple questions like this
[02:56] <davidleeroth> i dont remember the name, but it is an ati ixp ac97 soundcard
[02:56] <bob2> then find out
[02:56] <davidleeroth> dude give me a damn chance, I only have 2 hands to type with
[02:56] <Neros> can anyone see this?
[02:56] <DruQks> Neros, no.
[02:56] <bob2> balzac: those last two look dodgy
[02:56] <cyphase> jonny, did you get my PM?
[02:56] <davidleeroth> atiixp and sk98lin
[02:56] <bob2> balzac: I'd remove them
[02:57] <balzac> the last two universes?
[02:57] <brenden> has anyone here got openfas working on ubuntu?
[02:57] <bob2> /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/kernel/sound/pci/snd-atiixp.ko
[02:57] <davidleeroth> the modules are unrelated
[02:57] <bob2> davidleeroth: that module is a part of the standard ubuntu kernel
[02:57] <balzac> one is hoary extras, i've removed it
[02:57] <balzac> the other, i thought was official
[02:58] <bob2> grawert.net = ogra's private apt source
[02:58] <balzac> ok, thanks
[02:58] <davidleeroth> well anyway, 2.6.13.4 is what i made
[02:58] <davidleeroth> when i boot up
[02:58] <iceman> Can i get a good complete source's list file from someone ... to update x86
[02:58] <bob2> davidleeroth: so, there's no need to compile a kernel to get either of those modules
[02:58] <bob2> iceman: you already have one, or use apt-setup
[02:58] <Alchemist_> davidleeroth - why dont you use the standard kernel?
[02:58] <bob2> davidleeroth: now reboot into the 2.6.12 ubuntu kernel
[02:58] <DruQks> bob2, help me next!! :D
[02:58] <davidleeroth> bob2, i also have apps and my sound doesnt work
[02:58] <davidleeroth> I just need the new kernel
[02:58] <joshua> Does anyone know the package for firefox's java plugin?
[02:58] <bob2> davidleeroth: that's awesome, reboot into 2.6.12 and we can figure out why
[02:59] <bob2> joshua: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:59] <davidleeroth> i am in 2.6.13
[02:59] <davidleeroth> *12
[02:59] <joshua> Thanks bob2
[02:59] <Hobbsee> !tell joshua about javadeb
[02:59] <bob2> davidleeroth: what exactly does "uname -r" print?
[02:59] <Paradoxx> !mount
[02:59] <ubotu> somebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[02:59] <davidleeroth> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic #1 Mon Oct 10 13:27:39 BST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:59] <bob2> DruQks: all I can suggest is looking for information about it in the wiki and linux-laptop.net
[02:59] <Paradoxx> !windowsdrives
[02:59] <ubotu> methinks windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:59] <bob2> davidleeroth: great. and 'lsmod|grep ataii'?
[02:59] <davidleeroth> !gay
[02:59] <DruQks> bob2, I already found it. . . even linked to it. . . just can't understand it and need help with it :)
[03:00] <DruQks> Hence the asking for help bit.
[03:00] <davidleeroth> i did it
[03:00] <grodius> How do I change my resolution ? i'm stretching big time
[03:00] <davidleeroth> ok i did it
[03:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell grodius about fixres
[03:01] <bob2> grodius: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:01] <titanium> can't get into php so i'll ask it here: php4 or php5? development+light production server
[03:01] <bob2> whatever your code runs on
[03:02] <davidleeroth> does anyone here know how to compile kernels?
[03:02] <titanium> i have no code yet :O
[03:02] <BrutusUnix> can anyone get ubuntu working on a iMac G5?
[03:02] <Kyral> davidleeroth, I do
[03:02] <Alchemist_> brutus - im running on a mac mini G4
[03:02] <davidleeroth> kyral, can you help me!!!!?!!!?
[03:02] <bob2> davidleeroth: stop it
[03:02] <Kyral> Depends
[03:02] <Kyral> what is wrong
[03:02] <adriyel__> its not that difficult, sheesh, they have menu's...genkernel...all sorts of stuff
[03:03] <bob2> davidleeroth: 10:59:46           bob2 | davidleeroth: great. and 'lsmod|grep ataii'?
[03:03] <davidleeroth> I told you i did it!
[03:03] <BrutusUnix> g4 Xorg works good but G5 I can't get Xorg to work
[03:03] <Falstius> how can I add arbitrary directories to the "Places" menu (other than mounting them in /media)?
[03:03] <bob2> davidleeroth: and what did it print?
[03:03] <davidleeroth> nothing
[03:03] <davidleeroth> like i said
[03:03] <bob2> davidleeroth: great
[03:03] <iceman> should i have any problems getting wine to install from x86
[03:03] <bob2> davidleeroth: 'sudo modprobe ataiiwhateveritwas'
[03:03] <Paradoxx> hmm, when i do a dsmeg|less i get alot of errors
[03:03] <Paradoxx> i'm not sure how to interpret them, can some1 assist me please
[03:04] <bob2> Paradoxx: paste them to #flood
[03:04] <Alchemist_> brutus - error on X startup ?
[03:04] <that_weasel> anyone have any trouble connecting to WEP enabled access points?
[03:04] <that_weasel> i'm using NDISwrapper for my wireless carf
[03:05] <that_weasel> card
[03:05] <bob2> yay ndiswrapper
[03:05] <frank23> bob2: I installed the any-any patch to vmware and now network-manager work without destroying my system. I guess I was just lucky that vmware worked before without the patch!
[03:05] <bob2> davidleeroth: now paste the last few lines of "dmesg" to #flood
[03:05] <bob2> frank23: ah, yay
[03:06] <jonny> how can I set up a new network
[03:06] <Alchemist_> jonny - get two cans and a long piece of string
[03:06] <mauricio> Hi; I downloaded amsn, now I need to know how to install it... anybody knows?
[03:06] <jonny> Im not kidding!
[03:06] <jonny> lol
[03:06] <bob2> jonny: define what you mean by "network"
[03:06] <bob2> mauricio: don't download it, install it using synaptic
[03:06] <Xenguy> jonny: you need to be way more specific
[03:06] <frank23> mauricio: you can install amsn the easy way with synaptic
[03:06] <balzac> bob2, I've pasted my modified install plan in #flood
[03:07] <jonny> ethernet...surf the net
[03:07] <frank23> mauricio: enable universe
[03:07] <frank23> !tell maurico about repos
[03:07] <Paradoxx> bob2 how do i paste the output of the command into a text file again?
[03:07] <prg> can anyone help with a startup config question?
[03:07] <Paradoxx> >whatever.txt?
[03:07] <jonny> we have a cable modem
[03:07] <bob2> balzac: just ignore synaptic, I guess
[03:07] <bob2> prg: just ask
[03:07] <bob2> Paradoxx: yes
[03:07] <balzac> ok
[03:08] <bob2> balzac: do the upgrade with apt, then see what synaptic says
[03:08] <balzac> ok
[03:08] <Paradoxx> it dosen't work with dmeg for some reason, it creates an empty text file
[03:08] <balzac> thanks
[03:08] <adriyel__> bob2, this is the case of most Operating systems, if it tells you anything, and yet everything works, ignore all other output except that which is pertinent to the application in use
[03:08] <bob2> Paradoxx: dmesg > ./foo.txt
[03:08] <johnny> anybody here setup php on ubuntu?
[03:08] <prg> My breezy install hangs for about 30 seconds during startup at the 'Configuring Network....' operation.  Where are the config files located to control this?
[03:08] <adriyel__> aka, clicky clicky.
[03:08] <bob2> johnny: lots of people
[03:08] <bob2> prg: /etc/network/interfaces, remove the "auto eth0" line
[03:09] <johnny> the modules provided aren't enough
[03:09] <bob2> prg: then run "sudo ifup eth0" when you're actually pluggined into the network
[03:09] <bob2> johnny: be less vague
[03:09] <johnny> i need pcntl and dio.. is there an easy way to create these ?
[03:09] <Paradoxx> bob2: i should post that in flood?
[03:09] <bob2> where "pcntl" and "dio" are?
[03:09] <johnny> i have never created a dev
[03:09] <johnny> they are php modules
[03:09] <prg> bob2:  I can also enable it through the 'network manager' right?
[03:10] <johnny> i use added the use flags and done..
[03:10] <bob2> Paradoxx: yes
[03:10] <bob2> johnny: you mean libphp-diogenes - library for web site creation
[03:10] <bob2> ?
[03:10] <johnny> no
[03:10] <johnny> dio is direct io
[03:10] <bob2>  Compiled in extensions include: bcmath, bz2, calendar, ctype, dba, dbx,
[03:10] <bob2>  exif, filepro, ftp, gettext, iconv, mbstring, mime_magic, ncurses, openssl,
[03:10] <bob2>  overload, pcntl, pcre, posix, session, shmop, sockets, standard, sysvmsg,
[03:11] <bob2> also, please read the php4 package description
[03:11] <johnny> php5
[03:11] <johnny> dio isn't in that list :)
[03:11] <bob2> johnny: php5 says the same thing
[03:11] <logikal> How do i unload pics off diital camera?
[03:11] <bob2> indeed
[03:11] <johnny> i didn't actually check for pcntl ..
[03:11] <bob2> logikal: depends on the camera
[03:11] <mauricio> frank23: How do I use\e synaptic?
[03:11] <threeseas> hello
[03:11] <johnny> i just assumed that if dio wasn't included then pcntl wouldn't be either
[03:11] <bob2> mauricio: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:11] <johnny> since they are not normall needed
[03:11] <bob2> silly assumption
[03:11] <yi> ugh
[03:11] <starscalling> bob2, i looked up xinerama btw, and it seems to make 2 monitors into one seamless desktop.. but i would like to do things like maximize irc on one monitor and maximize anime on another.. is there something else i should look up to do this? im running a nvidia fx 5200 which does support this but yeah.. how does ubuntu/linux do this :P
[03:11] <johnny> well dio isn't there
[03:12] <yi> what's the deal with cups configuring it self so i can't use the web interface
[03:12] <logikal> bob2
[03:12] <yi> how can i fix that?
[03:12] <logikal> I can see the camera
[03:12] <logikal> cant unload the images or see them tho
[03:12] <Paradoxx> bob2 i got kicked...
[03:12] <Paradoxx> lol
[03:12] <Paradoxx> but here...
[03:12] <Paradoxx> here is the pastebin for it
[03:12] <Paradoxx> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3577
[03:12] <logikal> Could not read file could nt lock the device
[03:12] <bob2> logikal: pelase read what I said
[03:12] <bob2> as great as people ignoring me and answering questions I didn't ask is...
[03:12] <logikal> What did you say
[03:12] <logikal> Its a HP Photosmart 635
[03:12] <Alchemist_> starscalling: you need to setup two screens in your x-config - then you can point some apps at display:0.0 and others at display:0.1 - I do this with my tv-out
[03:12] <mauricio> bob2: thanks
[03:13] <logikal> I have it installed correctly
[03:13] <bob2> johnny: sudo apt-get build-dep php4 ; apt-get source php4 ; edit debian/rule to pass --enable-dio-whatever ; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[03:13] <bob2> logikal: good luck!
[03:13] <bob2> starscalling: adios
[03:13] <threeseas> I'm trying to compile a wireless device and it says I need the kernel sources (ubuntu 5.10) but I need to know what it is I'm supposed to get (snaptic)
[03:13] <logikal> why good luck?
[03:13] <mustard5> cause he's going :D
[03:13] <starscalling> heh so much for him in this chan
[03:13] <starscalling> but anyway
[03:13] <johnny> that should work for php5 ?
[03:13] <logikal> oh
[03:13] <Paradoxx> LOL
[03:13] <balzac> bob2 solves problems like whackamole
[03:13] <johnny> when you say edit debian/rule ?
[03:14] <johnny> that doesn't mean nothin to me
[03:14] <starscalling> x-config huh Alchemist_ .. where do i go to modify that }n00b i know gomen{
[03:14] <mustard5> what type of camera logikal ?
[03:14] <johnny> i'm not a debian guy
[03:14] <dracflamloc> hello folks, does ubuntu have sshd by default
[03:14] <Paradoxx> kk, can some1 help me please... I have an external hd and for some reason my machine dosen't pick it up anymore. This occured after i formatted it.
[03:14] <threeseas> all I see is header files for the kernel
[03:14] <johnny> dracflamloc, apt-get install openssh-server
[03:14] <dooglus> starscalling: I've got it set up nicely so that if I maximise a window it maximises on just the monitor it's on, but I can still drag apps from one monitor to the other.
[03:15] <natex> I have read and followed the directions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA  and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, I can still not get my dvd player to work properly. Someone help me out?
[03:15] <johnny> it installed the init script for ya
[03:15] <starscalling> yeah thats EXACTLY what i want there dooglus ;)
[03:15] <logikal> mustard5,
[03:15] <logikal> HP photosmart 635
[03:15] <mustard5> logikal, this may be irrelevant but wonder whether you can mount the camera and simply browse the directory that contains the files and copy and paste them out
[03:15] <dooglus> starscalling: setting up two displays will sort your maximise problem, but will break the drag-between-screens thing
[03:15] <logikal> mustard5, the camera is mounted, I see no files.
[03:15] <mustard5> ah k
[03:16] <logikal> mustard5, the camera is mounted, I can't see the files.
[03:16] <junix-br> hello all
[03:16] <dooglus> starscalling: the options I use in xorg.conf are:
[03:16] <dooglus> 	Option          "MergedNonRectangular"  "on"
[03:16] <starscalling> well masteh show me how to make it ... pimp my computer~!~
[03:16] <dooglus> 	Option          "MergedFB"		"auto"
[03:16] <Falstius> how can I add directories to the "Places" menu (other than mounting them in /media)?
[03:16] <junix-br> I migrate to breezy and my keyboard in X don't work more.. :(
[03:16] <logikal> I get the error "could not read file"
[03:16] <mustard5> logikal, I'll see what I can find online....
[03:16] <balzac> can someone knowledgeable about apt take a peek in #flood and tell me y/n for a specific command?
[03:16] <jimcooncat> just downloaded wxglade in a tar.gz file. Where should I extract this to, maybe /usr/local/bin?
[03:17] <Alchemist_> starscaling - http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=176&p_created=1101836843&p_sid=Q2Oo8TSh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NTgmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0wJnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfZm5sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9bGludXg*&p_li=&p_topview=1
[03:17] <jimcooncat> its just a bunch of python scripts
[03:18] <edgarin> Hi all
[03:18] <edgarin> howto share workbook of openoffice calc
[03:18] <edgarin> in ms excel have this function
[03:18] <dooglus> Alchemist_: nice URL :)
[03:19] <starscalling> dooglus, having found the file [seems there are two: /etc/X11 and /usr/share/xresprobe]  i dont see that option.. just add to the conf ?
[03:19] <jimcooncat> edgarlin, putting it on a shared drive doesn't do what you want?
[03:19] <edgarin> no
[03:19] <johnny> argh.. it wants some snmp package..
[03:19] <bimberi> jimcooncat: ubuntu has a package called python-wxglade (in universe)
[03:19] <jimcooncat> I've used Excel a long time but didn't know about a shared workbook
[03:19] <jimcooncat> thanks bimberi!!!!
[03:19] <starscalling> i appreciate the help btw :P
[03:19] <spanglesontoast> yay
[03:20] <bimberi> jimcooncat: yw :)
[03:20] <edgarin> In excel when you activate the function of the menu Tools --- share workbook
[03:20] <spanglesontoast> The Hanso Foundation
[03:20] <edgarin> this file is shared!!
[03:20] <edgarin> but in open office i cant put this option
[03:20] <johnny> brb
[03:20] <dooglus> starscalling: I put it in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the "Device" section
[03:20] <prg> Another question for anyone: I have a script that initializes wpasupplicant.  I want it to run during boot.  Where does it have to be placed ?
[03:21] <natex> any takers? I need help playing dvds
[03:21] <MonkeyINAbaG> W: GPG error: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:21] <MonkeyINAbaG> ^^ does anyone know where i can find this key to import it?
[03:21] <dooglus> starscalling: I think these kind of things are video-hardware specific
[03:22] <MonkeyINAbaG> prg) usually its /etc/rc.local
[03:22] <starscalling> dooglus, did you change or add a second monitor in the conf?
[03:23] <starscalling> o ok
[03:23] <starscalling> i think i see some of that in the link from Alchemist_ too ^^ [nvidia fx5200]  :)
[03:24] <andoh> Hey.. Ah. Does ubuntu 5.10 support linksys admtek adm211 chipset? 802.11b rev ii..
[03:24] <prg> MonkeyINAbag:  I've got no rc.local file.  If I make one will it be read upon startup?
[03:24] <CaBlGuY> greetings again..
[03:24] <Hobbsee> !tell MonkeyINAbaG about gpgerr
[03:24] <logikal> Hobbsee,
[03:24] <logikal> can you recomend me a didital camera program
[03:24] <Hobbsee> hi logikal
[03:24] <logikal> what's up?
[03:24] <mauricio> bob2:  I am in synaptic, what else do I have to do to install amsn?
[03:24] <CaBlGuY> that was a fsat setup..  and I LOVE  the live update..
[03:24] <CaBlGuY> :)
[03:24] <andoh> anyone?
[03:25] <Hobbsee> as in, to read off yoru digital camera?  or one for editing?
[03:25] <crimsun> andoh: do you mean 8211?
[03:25] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: yeah, it's nice and fast!
[03:25] <logikal> read
[03:25] <CaBlGuY> yes, that it is..
[03:25] <jimcooncat> edgarlin, I don't believe OOo has the spreadsheet sharing feature. According to this, the Excel sharing doesn't work very well, either. http://www.experts-exchange.com/Applications/MS_Office/Excel/Q_21529769.html Sorry, I'm not much help here.
[03:25] <Elsan> mauricio: You can just ge tthe "Add Applications" options in the GNOME menu
[03:25] <CaBlGuY> and it's doing fine with my video card..
[03:25] <dooglus> starscalling: I've only got one Monitor and one Screen
[03:25] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: yay!
[03:25] <Elsan> Has anyone here ever compiled Cedega CVS?
[03:25] <starscalling> o.o
[03:25] <bimberi> prg: either call it from /etd/init.d/bootmisc.sh or set up your own bootscript from a copy of /etc/init.d/skeleton
[03:25] <starscalling> i thought you had multiple lol
[03:25] <CaBlGuY> will it recognise windows based drives, IE: if I have a slave with windowz dir.'s on it..
[03:25] <CaBlGuY> ?
[03:26] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: if you add it to the fstab, yes
[03:26] <iceman> where can you place icon's to install them in ubuntu gnome ?
[03:26] <kevogod> Elsan, I have tried on multiple occasions, but every time I try, I receive errors.
[03:26] <Hobbsee> !tell CaBlGuY about mount
[03:26] <kevogod> Elsan, (during compiling)
[03:26] <Hobbsee> !tell CaBlGuY about windowsdrives
[03:26] <bimberi> andoh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:26] <mustard5> logikal, the only thing I could find was a bugzilla report on a different HP camera model ......  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12132
[03:26] <jimcooncat> edgarlin, we use Access at our office for this kind of sharing, but there are small databases you can use with Ubuntu for a shared backend. I think sqlite might be useful.
[03:26] <Elsan> kevogod: I can't even get past reading the licence, I read it, agree and blabla and can't press "l" to agree
[03:26] <logikal> well
[03:27] <logikal> mustard5, Im trying GTKan
[03:27] <logikal> GTkam
[03:27] <mustard5> k
[03:27] <logikal> and all it does is break
[03:27] <logikal> it seems we are having a talking problem
[03:27] <logikal> it finds it
[03:27] <threeseas> where might I find the kernal sources for ubuntu latest?
[03:27] <mustard5> logikal, perhaps you may have a bug too
[03:27] <logikal> but cant initilize
[03:28] <CaBlGuY> ok  so, what happens if I just connect the the drive as slave, and reboot? I still have to manualy mount it?
[03:28] <Elsan> kevogod: Have you gotten past that step?
[03:28] <zblach> whats the best way to archive some mp3s?
[03:28] <kevogod> Elsan, Yes, I have.
[03:28] <nalioth> zblach: burn them to cd?
[03:28] <Taken_By_Kristin> Hey everybody.
[03:28] <Taken_By_Kristin> I just got a USB adapter for my wireless network.  Is anybody willing to help me out?  Pleeease?
[03:28] <Rev-Marc> I want to setup a Ubuntu box to file share and also serve as a database server, I have the file server done but how do I set it up for the database?
[03:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Taken_By_Kristin about wireless
[03:29] <bimberi> CaBlGuY: until you have an entry in /etc/fstab, yes
[03:29] <CaBlGuY> ok, let me hook it up and I'll be right back..
[03:29] <Rev-Marc> does it have MYSql server already?
[03:29] <CaBlGuY> ;-)
[03:29] <CaBlGuY> thanks guys..
[03:29] <iceman> #flood
[03:30] <mustard5> logikal, I would be investigating whether you have discovered a bug and enquire about what process you need to use to file a bug report in the hope that it will be fixed
[03:30] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: not by default, but it's available for install
[03:30] <prg> bimberi: Thanks, I just skimmed through those. If I call the other script from bootmisc.sh, does it matter where the file is placed?  Can it be in /root?
[03:30] <mauricio> I am still working trying to get MSN... what should I do?  I just installed ubuntu, please be patient
[03:30] <Elsan> kevogood: You just opened it in Firefox and then read it and agreed and pressed "l"?
[03:30] <Hobbsee> mauricio: try running gaim
[03:30] <Rev-Marc> where do I get it and find out how to install it?
[03:30] <Hobbsee> mauricio: then tell it to connect to your msn account
[03:30] <kevogod> Elsan, Uh, No.
[03:30] <mauricio> how do I start gaim?
[03:30] <bimberi> prg: /root would be ok, /usr/local/bin (or sbin) would be more "standard" i guess
[03:30] <Toma-> mauricio: a dedicated msn client is amsn. its quite good.
[03:30] <Taken_By_Kristin> Thanks ubotu.
[03:30] <zblach> nalioth, its 1.1 gig of music, from the same cd collection
[03:31] <zblach> so i'm looking to compress & save
[03:31] <iceman> someone peek at flood ... what cat i get those repo's
[03:31] <iceman> repository errors ... help
[03:31] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: use synaptic ...
[03:31] <prg> bimberi:  thanks
[03:31] <bimberi> ubotu tell Rev-Marc about synaptic
[03:31] <bimberi> prg: yw :)
[03:31] <logikal> Hobbsee,
[03:31] <logikal> I would recomend him xopete
[03:31] <logikal> gaim isnt for MSN
[03:31] <mauricio> where can I start amsn or gaim?
[03:31] <Elsan> mauricio: I'm using aMSN right now, to add it, go in the main menu -> Applications -> Add Applications -> Internet -> More applications -> aMSN, check it
[03:32] <Elsan> kevogod: Then what did you do?
[03:32] <crimsun> logikal: gaim can connect to MSN
[03:32] <robotgeek> logikal: yes it is
[03:32] <nalioth> zblach: i dont understand "archive" zip them up, burn them to dvd-r ?
[03:32] <Elsan> kevogod: I think I got past
[03:32] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: once you have enabled the universe repository, you can use synaptic to install the mysql-server (for 4.0) or mysql-server-4.1 package
[03:32] <Hobbsee> logikal: did you mean kopete?  gaim connects to msn last time i checked, and this guy probably has gnome on his computer, and not kde, as he just installed ubuntu
[03:33] <Toma-> anyone tried amsn with tk/tcl 8.5? its so sxc.
[03:33] <CaBlGuY> one more thing b 4 I reboot, shuold I install ALL  the updates? It says theres like 116..
[03:34] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: which did you install?  hoary or breezy?  and you may as well
[03:34] <gnomefreak> there there is now my list of breezy sources on my site this way you can send them there since they are mine i know they work and they will be updated as i get the updated ones.
[03:34] <zblach> nalioth, no dvd burner. any good compression progs? i remember something called uharc from a game
[03:34] <mauricio> I have ubuntu 5.04... I can't find "add applications" in here
[03:34] <CaBlGuY> Ummm  I dunno, what are u refering to??
[03:34] <Elsan> kevogood: It's like my "l" does not work :/
[03:34] <zblach> mauricio, why not move to breezy?
[03:35] <nalioth> zblach: unfortunately, mp3s are pretty much compressed as much as they're gonna get. you can try bzip2
[03:35] <Elsan> kevogod: I am stupid. It's 1 :D
[03:35] <Rev-Marc> OK I get some kind of errors about addresses or something when running Synaptic
[03:35] <zblach> nalioth, thanks
[03:35] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: press Reload and see if they persist
[03:36] <alpha232> ok why is it when i want to uninstall Evolution, is it saying it will also uninstall ubuntu-desktop?
[03:36] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: which did you install? ubuntu 5.04, or 5.10?  5.10 is newer
[03:36] <chihau_> i have ubuntu in my ibook but i cant play wmv files...
[03:36] <zblach> another question. i remember back in win i could get accents by going Alt+####, can i do that in breezy
[03:36] <zblach> ?
[03:36] <iceman> ok how to mount a dos partition
[03:36] <CaBlGuY> 5.04 but it did the live update when I installed
[03:36] <israel> anyone know how I can install XEmacs?  I just installed Ubuntu a couple of days ago and am still figuring it out
[03:36] <imc_> Hey, anyone know how I can change the DENIED message when someone botches the password on a locked screensaver?
[03:36] <bimberi> alpha232: because ubuntu-desktop depends on evolution
[03:36] <Toma-> !tell chihau_ about w32codecs
[03:36] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: right, get the updates, then you can dist-upgrade to breezy afterwards if you wish
[03:36] <robotgeek> chihau_: the codecs are only for x86, not ppc
[03:36] <CaBlGuY> ok thanks..
[03:36] <CaBlGuY> bbiab
[03:36] <robotgeek> Toma-: nope, that doesn't work
[03:36] <imc_> !tell imc_ about w32codexs
[03:37] <Toma-> really....
[03:37] <iceman> Anyone able to walk me through mounting a DOS partition
[03:37] <alpha232> bimberi, but there is no reason for it to. Evolution is groupware (ala Outlook) no need for my desktop envrionment to hinge on that, sounds like windows needing IE
[03:37] <jjd> hmpf
[03:37] <robotgeek> Toma-: not on a PPC machine
[03:37] <mustard5> iceman, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:37] <jjd> this isn't a good start...
[03:37] <imc_> Anyone know how I can change the DENIED message when someone botches the password on a locked screensaver?
[03:37] <bimberi> alpha232: it doesn't *hinge* on it, ubuntu-desktop is just a set of what ubuntu considers to be a good desktop.
[03:37] <starscalling> dooglus, i suppose i need to log out and back in to get this to go... or do i need to restart comp would you think?
[03:38] <thesilentkiller> Hoary guide says do "apt-get install azureus" to install the BitTorrent client Azureus. I am using Breezy and I am not able to find that package. any clues?
[03:38] <Toma-> i didnt know codecs were arch dependant?
[03:38] <starscalling> thesilentkiller, one sec
[03:38] <NCLife> /whois *^:;_
[03:38] <Xenguy> zblach: that is a good question - I'm searching for some kind of solution to this issue, so let me know if you hear any useful tips please :-)
[03:38] <bimberi> israel: install xemacs21 (from universe)
[03:38] <jjd> Uhm, I was copying files and the copying program thingy froze and I cant close it
[03:38] <OneSeventeen___> are there server logs to show what all I've been doing via SSH?
[03:38] <NCLife> O.O sorry
[03:38] <starscalling> !ubontu tell thesilentkiller about sources
[03:38] <robotgeek> Toma-: they are, unfortunately
[03:38] <ubotu> starscalling: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:38] <OneSeventeen___> (I want to show my boss that I've been working all night so I can get paid :D )
 I heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[03:38] <alpha232> bimberi, right.... well then why is it going to uninstall my entire ubuntu desktop then just to freeup the space used by somthing I don't want to use. Personally i don't need it, i would rather use thunderbird
[03:38] <Toma-> i guess billy boy didnt think about the ppc when they made them :(
[03:38] <Xenguy> jjd: xkill  ?
[03:39] <Rev-Marc> can I use RPM's in Ubuntu?
[03:39] <mauricio> zblach, I have to find first where to enable amsn or breezy; where do I have to go?
[03:39] <Discipulus> Rev-Marc, no
[03:39] <starscalling> thesilentkiller, get that one there... then toss in /etc/apt/sourcesthingie and uncomment the last line as well.
[03:39] <Toma-> chihau_: http://www2.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/ try looking thu here for some codecs for ppc
[03:39] <nalioth> Rev-Marc: you CAN but it is highly not advisable
[03:39] <israel> thx, bimberi, how do I get that?  I tried uncommenting the 'universe' lines in sources.lst, and got a 'stat: no such file or directory'
[03:39] <bimberi> alpha232: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, uninstalling it doesn't take away its other dependencies
[03:39] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: best not to unless it is really necessary - what software?
[03:39] <israel> when I started up synaptic
[03:39] <titanium> is it just my imagination or does breezy load a lot slower than hoary
[03:39] <bimberi> israel: hit the Reload button
[03:40] <iceman> ok, now how to guide wine to run diablo from the dos Partition ?
[03:40] <starscalling> i personally use the ubuntu java so i didnt even do the sun one... but restricted formats is another place to check out :)
[03:40] <prg> a question about synaptic package manger:  If I externally download and compile a program and install it with make, can i somehow register it with synaptic to get it out later or has entropy increaesd in my machine?
[03:40] <kevogod> wine /path/to/diablo/
[03:40] <Rev-Marc> Well on the MYSQl channel they said there  tare RPM's for it
[03:40] <Toma-> prg: no
[03:41] <bimberi> prg: yes, use checkinstall when the install tells you to do "make install"
[03:41] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: pfff, there are debs for it too :-)
[03:41] <titanium> is there a way to make ubuntu re-load /etc/fstab aside from rebooting?
[03:41] <Belutz> titanium, sudo mount -a
[03:41] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: apt-cache search mysql* |less
[03:41] <bimberi> prg: you'll need the checkinstall package
[03:41] <jjd> Xenguy, thanks :>
[03:41] <titanium> Belutz: nice, thanks
[03:41] <thesilentkiller> starscalling: thanks. i will check it out. i added universe and multiverse repositories using synaptic. is what you are suggesting different from that?
[03:41] <prg> bimberi: is it available through the universe repo?
[03:41] <Xenguy> jjd: yw
[03:41] <iceman> kevogod Got diablo located on a Dos harddrive ... hda2 ....
[03:42] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: I meant -> dpkg -l mysql* |less
[03:42] <israel> thanks, bimberi, that worked great!  (downloading now)
[03:42] <bimberi> prg: you bet :)
[03:42] <mauricio> I found it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Thank you!
[03:42] <starscalling> look at the link... its got more repositories..
[03:42] <prg> bimberi: thanks again!
[03:42] <bimberi> israel: great, yw :)
[03:42] <bimberi> prg: yw :)
[03:42] <mauricio> please forgive my ignorance
[03:42] <alpha232> how can i move my system from using ESS to ALSA?
[03:42] <thesilentkiller> starscalling: k
[03:43] <Xenguy> .oO(you are forgiven my sun ;-)
[03:43] <iceman> how to point wine to hda2/Diablo ii/Diablo ii.exe
[03:43] <ceruleat> anyone suggest a good tool for splitting > 700 MB of files (pix, ~2MB ea) across multiple CD's in a 'smart' way? Preferably GUI (i.e. wife-friendly).
[03:43] <mebsd> use windows for diablo
[03:43] <Xenguy> mebsd: bah
[03:43] <iceman> mebsd Winblows sucks
[03:43] <Toma-> iceman: try hda2/Diablo\ ii/Diablo\ ii.exe
[03:43] <Rev-Marc> Thank you again
[03:43] <mebsd> playing game sucks
[03:44] <Toma-> better yet, type Diab then hit tab
[03:45] <zblach> hrm. is this typed rightly?
[03:45] <iceman> Toma nope ...
[03:45] <zblach> strange. 'twas right aligned there
[03:45] <Toma-> mebsd: games are awesome on linux :) i just played bf1942 for 2 hours this morning with no problems
[03:46] <Toma-> iceman: what is the exact path ay diablo?
[03:46] <Toma-> *ay=to
[03:46] <iceman> Toma how to locate hda2
[03:46] <Toma-> iceman: where did you mount it to?
[03:46] <mebsd> but config a windows emulator to play a windows game on linux and declare to hate windows, that is pathetic
[03:47] <Toma-> i dont hate windows...?
[03:47] <iceman> Toma where ever wiki page said ... i am still lost in locating all this ..
[03:47] <Toma-> iceman: are you using breezy?
[03:48] <iceman> Toma yea .. heres the link i followed ...  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:48] <Xenguy> mebsd: I'm not sure you know what you are saying :-/
[03:48] <Toma-> mebsd: besides, playing a game that was written for windows doesnt mean im endorsing windows
[03:48] <Toma-> iceman: it mounts automagically on boot anyway
[03:49] <iceman> toma seems to be the way that works ... now guiding wine to it
[03:49] <dmlinux> iceman you get wine working?
[03:49] <hippie> I need help. I'm new to Ubuntu.
[03:49] <Toma-> you may need to cd to /media/hda2/Diablo ii forst
[03:49] <Toma-> *first
[03:49] <Xenguy> hippie: ask away
[03:49] <Toma-> hippie: ask!
[03:49] <iceman> dmlinux finaly installed x86 ... now just to point wine to a auto mounted windows / dos partition
[03:49] <dmlinux> toma- you can run D2 with wine ?  :O
[03:50] <dmlinux> iceman ah hehe :P
[03:50] <hippie> alright.... i am building a computer... and i just wanna use a dialup for it... but, my win modem doesn't work. got advice?
[03:50] <Razor-X> hmmm, a quick poll, how many people out there use non-mutt MUAs?
[03:50] <dmlinux> iceman im running off of AMD64 version with no probs : o
[03:50] <dooglus> Razor-X: me
[03:50] <tritium> Razor-X: please don't conduct polls here
[03:50] <kevogod> I've run Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne with WINE and it worked pretty damn good. I'm sure Diablo II runs like a champ.
[03:50] <iceman> Hda2 is the partiton ...
[03:50] <Razor-X> tritium: no polls here?
[03:50] <Razor-X> tritium: mmmkay
[03:50] <Razor-X> dooglus: what do you use?
[03:50] <bobn> hippie, it depends on which one.
[03:50] <dooglus> Razor-X: I use 'vm'
[03:50] <jsubl2> hippie linmodem.org
[03:50] <bobn> i use mutt
[03:51] <Razor-X> dooglus: cool
[03:51] <hippie> thank you.
[03:51] <iceman> Diablo II is the folder on hda2
[03:51] <Xenguy> hippie: winmodems are not really compatible with Linux generally... but it seems to me I have seen workarounds in the distant past
[03:51] <Toma-> dmlinux: http://appdb.winehq.org/ its the top application on the list ;)
[03:51] <hippie> and another problem...
[03:51] <Toma-> you can ever run Wow on it
[03:51] <jsubl2> bobn lol
[03:51] <Earthen> I'm just setting up a new hard drive, I want windows and Ubuntu on duel boot are there any sugestions on what way I should setup the partitions?
[03:52] <comradevik> hi
[03:52] <bobn> knew there was a good resource - used it once to gaet a windmodem going in debian.
[03:52] <Razor-X> Earthen: the Ubuntu installer can take care of most of it, although if your Windows partition is an NTFS one, I suggest allocating at least free space for Ubuntu
[03:52] <hippie> the next thing... i installed ubuntu onto my dad's winXP machine... partitioned it for 20gb... and now i don't have a bootloader to GET TO linux... help?
[03:52] <adriyel__> bobn, are you bob2?
[03:52] <comradevik> i have a really big problem.. i just had to do a system restore on windows and now my GRUB is gone
[03:52] <adriyel__> hippie, did you install it to the master boot record?
[03:52] <comradevik> i'm on the liveCD
[03:52] <alpha232> is there a thinner XWM that still has the tie-in with apps being installed?
[03:53] <hippie> adriyel__: huh?
[03:53] <iceman> well... wine "or" Diablo is attempting to load the CD rom... now how to fix that
[03:53] <bobn> no.  pretty sure I've never useed theat nick.
[03:53] <thesilentkiller> Earthen: If you are planning to share data between Ubuntu and XP, then you should think about that too. I am struggling with that. so others might be able to help you out
[03:53] <adriyel__> comradevik, you'll need to reinstall grub to the master boot record
[03:53] <comradevik> how do i do that
[03:53] <adriyel__> I'm seeing a recurring theme here
[03:53] <Xenguy> alpha232: xfce4 is one alternative, depending on your needs
[03:53] <adriyel__> ummm, never had to do it myself...
[03:53] <Earthen> Razor-X I was going to partition with PQ magic I was wondering how was the best way to set things up as what partition c should come first second  etc...
[03:53] <comradevik> is it possible tho
[03:53] <adriyel__> oh yeah
[03:53] <adriyel__> I just can't think of how
[03:53] <Razor-X> Earthen: for data sharing, I suggest a simple FAT partition in between, or maybe even a ReiserFS intermediary if you want to use ReiserFS in Windows
[03:53] <bimberi> comradevik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:54] <bobn> I like fluxbox myself when RAM or CPU are short
[03:54] <hippie> adriyel__: i'm not quite sure... i added a partition and put ubuntu onto it.
[03:54] <Earthen> thesilentkiller well I can mount read only thw windows partitions
[03:54] <adriyel__> bobn, ditto
[03:54] <comradevik> tnx!
[03:54] <Razor-X> Earthen: no point, really, simply resize your NTFS partition to allocate enough free space that Ubuntu needs, and you're set
[03:54] <iceman> Well, Diablo cannot find the CD rom... how to fix that ...anyone please help
[03:54] <adriyel__> hippie, yes but you've got to have grub (the bootloader) installed to the master boot record...
[03:54] <Razor-X> bobn: I use ratpoison all the time :P
[03:54] <hippie> adriyel__ how?
[03:54] <alpha232> Xenguy, it just sucks on a 700mhz Celeron
[03:54] <thesilentkiller> Razor-X: Earthen: I created a FAT32 partition using Windows..I am having trouble trying to read/write with Ubuntu and XP
[03:55] <bobn> Razor-X: I tried ratpoison - a little *too* basic.  But that is certainly light.
[03:55] <adriyel__> hippie, it gave you the option to install it to the MBR during the install, you prolly chose no
[03:55] <Razor-X> thesilentkiller: FAT16 is better for an intermediary, I think
[03:55] <iceman> How to tell wine the CD drive is there ... HELP
[03:55] <Earthen> I was thinking to set it up like this Windows "NTFS" ! swap 1 gig ! ext2 ! then a fat 32 for sharing data
[03:55] <hippie> thanks.
[03:55] <adriyel__> hippie, sarcasm?
[03:55] <Bachus9000> I've followed the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75443 to recompile the kernel with swsup2 support and now ndiswrapper does not work.  When I insert my wireless card, the ndiswrapper module is loaded as normal, but when I try to assign an IP to the machine dhclient just goes in an loop.
[03:55] <bobn> Hey anybody here used the LTSP in 5.10?
[03:55] <thesilentkiller> Razor-X: any specific reason why not 32? Just curious
[03:55] <hippie> adriyel__ i'll check it out and probably reinstall.
[03:55] <kevogod> iceman, Does it automatically mount on the Desktop as "Diablo II, X##@"?
[03:55] <Razor-X> bobn: well, I have no real use for any of the stuff most other desktops use, I view my videos maximized, my console session is maximized, all my games are maximized
[03:55] <adriyel__> oh, k
[03:55] <adriyel__> hippie, glad to be of help
[03:55] <Razor-X> thesilentkiller: just plays better, and is less ``fat'', IMO
[03:56] <adriyel__> TESTING CS:S WITH CEDEGA!
[03:56] <hippie> adriyel__ yea... i just went to a linux group meeting in st. pete, fl.
[03:56] <Razor-X> Earthen: if you want to set everything up by hand, then, you're going to only want to do a complex setup, and you shouldn't use ext2 anymore, ya know
[03:56] <thesilentkiller> Razor-X: maybe i will reformat the partition and give it a shot. cuz, when i created a file in FAT32 with ubuntu, and tried to open it in XP, it cribbed
[03:56] <bobn> I'm getting a house (fingers crossed) and want a machine in every room with as little maintenance as possible.
[03:56] <Earthen> Razor-X why not ext2?
[03:56] <hippie> adriyel__: so i'm really getting involved tonight.
[03:56] <iceman> kevogod set a link to Diablo ii.exe to use wine... but it starts to load, and says "Diablo II was unable to locate your CD-ROM Drive. " ect .. ect ...
[03:57] <Razor-X> Earthen: because ext2 doesen't have journaled support, which ext3 does, unless you have a specific reason for not needing journaling
[03:57] <bobn> Razor-X: I often operate the same way.  BUt I have no averdion to the mouse, nor to sometimes using un=maximized windows.
[03:57] <benplaut> i've got no sound in Quake 2, using SDL... any suggestions?
[03:57] <Earthen> Razor-X O sorry doh! I ment to type Ext3
[03:57] <iceman> kevogod got a Cancel and retry button... but how to tell wine where the cd is
[03:57] <jjd> Any of you here completely on linux not using any windows, not even wine?
[03:57] <slyjab> can anyone tell me how i can open a movie file with vlc by just clicking on the file instead of doing it through the vlc panel.. when i try to right click>open with other application>and choose vlc it give the following error: could not add application to application database
[03:57] <Razor-X> bobn: I don't like the mouse only beacuse it's a foot away from my keyboard :P
[03:57] <cevizoglu> drat
[03:57] <Razor-X> Earthen: ahhh, yeah
[03:58] <natex> jjd, me
[03:58] <Razor-X> Earthen: you're going to want to setup a specific /usr, /bin, and /home if you want to set it up manually
[03:58] <iceman> ??  install wine tools ? ?
[03:58] <iceman> winetools
[03:58] <cevizoglu> !test
[03:58] <ubotu> Crashed.
[03:58] <jjd> How is it working out? I got fed up with windows so now I'm trying to boycott it completely
[03:59] <cevizoglu> !geez
[03:59] <ubotu> cevizoglu: Syntax error in line 1
[03:59] <CarlFK> HP 810c inkjet - is there a way to adjust how red red it?
[03:59] <dracflamloc> how can i default the add applications thing to open the advanced mode all the time
[03:59] <bobn> Razor-X: I agre that a good UI minimizes the need to leave the keyboard.   anything that doesn't make the alt-tab sequence immediately available generally goes by the wayside in my book.
[03:59] <Earthen> Razor-X well I don't really want to do it all manully I was just wondering mostly On the setup of the partitions what should come first and soforth or does it matter
[03:59] <mauricio> Hi... Do you know how can I create a web page?
[03:59] <thesilentkiller> can someone tell me what i have to add to the sources.list to install the BitTorrent client Azureus?
[03:59] <OneSeventeen___> does ubuntu log user activity somewhere?
[03:59] <CaBlGuY> ok, I got the windowz drive set as slave now..
[03:59] <CarlFK> mauricio - check out nvu.com
[03:59] <Razor-X> Earthen: matters not
[03:59] <CaBlGuY> so, how do i mount it?
[03:59] <Razor-X> bobn: ahhh, so was I :P
[04:00] <bobn> OneSeventeen___: havwe you looked in /var/log ?
[04:00] <Razor-X> bobn: but, Alt+Tab is useless for me, because of the fractional-second delay I get
[04:00] <Spidy> can anyone explain to me how, on the Live CD version of Ubuntu, for PowerPC, I'd mount a hard drive partition?
[04:00] <Razor-X> easier for me to use C-t than it is to use Alt+Tab, for that reason
[04:00] <mushtaq> hi is it possible to see all the ip address on the network from the ubuntu server ?
[04:00] <Hobbsee> !tell Spidy about mount
[04:00] <natex> jjd, works great, the only thing I miss is support for my printer and scanner (both canons, not linux's fault)
[04:00] <Earthen> Razor-X what format Ext3 or Riser FS ? what one is better
[04:00] <Hobbsee> !tell CaBlGuY about windowsdrives
[04:00] <cevizoglu> Earthen, depends on what you plan to do with the format
[04:01] <natex> Earthen, both fine for most users needs
[04:01] <Razor-X> Earthen: depends on your needs, ReiserFS is better for a lot of small files, it's faster, and more robust, but ext3 is good for a basic system
[04:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Spidy about ntfs
[04:01] <bobn> Razor-X: you must be young.  I'm terriblky impatitent ant alt-tab delay bothers me not.
[04:01] <nalioth> Spidy: read that, it will answer your question
[04:01] <Xenguy> Earthen: unless you know what you are doing, recommend you stick with ext3
[04:01] <OneSeventeen___> bobn yeah, but I can't tell what I should be looking at.  I'm SSHing in to a server at work, and just want to see if it has start and stop times somewhere
[04:01] <cevizoglu> Earthen, I agree with Xenguy
[04:01] <Razor-X> bobn: yes, I am young, :P
[04:01] <Razor-X> bobn: i'm probably one of the youngest in the channel, I think
[04:01] <mushtaq> hi is it possible to see all the ip address on the network from the ubuntu server ?
[04:01] <Earthen> OK thanks guys
[04:01] <Hobbsee> Razor-X: how old are you?
[04:01] <bobn> OneSeventeen___:  /var/log/messages
[04:01] <Razor-X> Hobbsee: 15
[04:02] <mebsd> kids..
[04:02] <Hobbsee> Razor-X: yeah, that probably wins...you beat me by 2 years...
[04:02] <bobn> mushtaq: fping
[04:02] <Hobbsee> lol
[04:02] <Razor-X> bobn: really, I hate delay :P
[04:02] <aeon17x> Razor-X: and you're using Linux already? Cool.
[04:02] <bobn> holy cow!  I'm 50.
[04:02] <Razor-X> aeon17x: I've been using it since 11, it's been a sweet ride since
[04:02] <starscalling> well
[04:02] <mebsd> linux has alot adult contents
[04:02] <Razor-X> bobn: o_O, you're older than my dad (but not by much, though)
[04:02] <mebsd> firewall, kernel,
[04:02] <bobn> Razor-X: very cool to be into this so young.
[04:02] <starscalling> im off to test up my dual monitors .. if you dont see me right away i messed up again XD
[04:02] <mushtaq> bobn is it default
[04:03] <natex> mebsd, mount/finger
[04:03] <bobn> mushtaq: probably not.  have you tried apt-get or synaptic to look for it?
[04:03] <iceman> ok... how to Guide wine to my CDROM
[04:03] <OneSeventeen___> bobn, that just shows different times with "--MARK--" as the message (about 4 or 5 times each hour, even when I wasn't on the server)... I'm guessing I should have turned on SSH logging somewhere
[04:03] <mauricio> carlfk - How do I install the downloaded program?
[04:03] <mebsd> lol
[04:03] <alpha232> whats the url for the codecs?
[04:04] <mushtaq> bobn no i havent
[04:04] <nalioth> mauricio: was your program not available using synaptic?
[04:04] <aeon17x> !tell alpha232 about codecs
[04:04] <Razor-X> I have to say, Linux has matured in leaps-and-bounds in the last 3 years
[04:04] <bobn> OneSeventeen___: /var/log/secure may have login info.  Check /etc/syslong.conf to see what's bveing logged and how.
[04:05] <Razor-X> Ubuntu really represents that -- you use Linux the way you want to, you can use it all mouse, full GUI, or no mouse minimal GUI, hardware overhead is severely decreased, Linux is gaining great amounts of speed
[04:05] <bobn> mushtaq: apt-get install fping
[04:05] <israel> I recently installed ubuntu and I'm trying to get Xorg configured properly for my ATI Radeon 9200
[04:05] <bobn> mushtaq: I don't know that it will work but that's where I start.  be root when you do it.
[04:05] <ghmkfyfy> i have a radeon 9200
[04:05] <mushtaq> ok bobn but as i read info for fping it says it is to send to the number of ip's together
[04:05] <OneSeventeen___> bobn, hmmm... just checked auth.log, figured that would give me login and logout times... and it looks like a single IP has been trying out tons of various names...
[04:05] <mushtaq> bobn, through a file may be
[04:05] <Toma-> Razor-X: just wait till Vista comes out, linux will gain even more momentum ;)
[04:05] <mauricio> nalioth, I didn't find a program to make a web page....  I found the program to use msn :)
[04:05] <OneSeventeen___> is there a way to block IPs from remote access?
[04:06] <something_else> does anyone have monodevelop0.8/
[04:06] <kevogod> iceman, I asked does the Diablo II CD icon automatically appear on your desktop when you put it in your drive?
[04:06] <Razor-X> Toma-: yeah, if anything, Windows is going by the wayside, IMO
[04:06] <mushtaq> but i need it to check what ips are on my network
[04:06] <iceman> Got winetools here, is there a way to Config the CD rom from here
[04:06] <israel> ok, ghmkfyfy, thx.  X11 is working, but when I try a graphics game like BZFlag, I get a frame update every second or so
[04:06] <Razor-X> hmmm, anyways, i'm going to try out an MUA now
[04:06] <mushtaq> bobn, thanks i will try thanks for the help
[04:06] <bobn> mushtaq:   fping -a -A -g first_address last_address
[04:06] <nalioth> mauricio: there are several programs for writing web pages
[04:06] <iceman> kevogod no , just the cd icon
[04:06] <bobn> that does a range.
[04:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mauricio about repos
[04:06] <natex> Razor-X, WINFS is almost here! :0
[04:06] <Razor-X> natex: *gasp*
[04:06] <nalioth> mauricio: enable universe and multiverse repos
[04:07] <Razor-X> natex: that there is scary stuff :P
[04:07] <bobn> mushtaq: fping -a -A -g 192.168.1.0/24
[04:07] <Toma-> actually, winfs has been droped from vista, last i heard
[04:07] <bobn> that does a whole network.
[04:07] <natex> Razor-X, vaporware
[04:07] <Razor-X> Toma-: as have I, and MSH is also dropped, I hear
[04:07] <ajordao> what package i need to install to have the splashscreen when loading ubuntu ?
[04:07] <aeon17x> ajordao: try gtweakui.
[04:07] <Toma-> ajordao: you using breezy?
[04:08] <ajordao> Toma-, yes
[04:08] <Toma-> usplash
[04:08] <slyjab> can anyone tell me how i can open a movie file with vlc by just clicking on the file instead of doing it through the vlc panel.. when i try to right click>open with other application>and choose vlc it give the following error: could not add application to application database
[04:08] <crimsun> slyjab: drag 'n' drop it
[04:08] <jjd> What is the "universe" and "multiverse" thing?
[04:08] <iceman> kevogod would i want /media/cdrom0  pr /dev/hdc .. or another choice .. how to find that out and set it in wine tools
[04:08] <ajordao> Toma-, usplash already in newer version
[04:08] <ghmkfyfy> how do i read a ntfs partition from ubuntu?
[04:09] <bobn> veyr carefully
[04:09] <Toma-> ajordao: then you should already have a splash screen on boot...
[04:09] <aeon17x> !tell jjd about repositories
[04:09] <nalioth> jjd: thousands of programs more than you have by default
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> !ntfs
[04:09] <mauricio> nalioth, I couldn't find universe or multiverse in synaptic
[04:09] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:09] <ajordao> Toma-, no i haven't
[04:09] <mushtaq> thanks bobn is it possible to get in reply the dns names for the following users ?
[04:09] <nalioth> mauricio: did you get the priv msg from ubotu ?
[04:09] <slyjab> crimsun: now i feel like an idiot... thanks.....lol
[04:09] <Netslayer> how long do orders take to go through on ubuntu's site for free cds? ie the date it shows it got sent to the date i get it?
[04:09] <ghmkfyfy> its about 8 weeks right?
[04:09] <JimH_> can someone tell me how to get shoutcast to work on the LIVECD
[04:09] <bimberi> jjd: universe is unsupported (by canonical) free software, multiverse is unsupported non-free software
[04:09] <natex> ghmkfyfy, modprobe ntfs, then mount the partition
[04:10] <ghmkfyfy> how do i mount?
[04:10] <mauricio> nalioth,  yes... I didn't see it before
[04:10] <bobn> mushtaq: for one or 2 use nslookup.  for abunch, check the fping man page.
[04:10] <natex> ghmkfyfy, man mount
[04:10] <Toma-> ajordao: is there the word "splash" in the kernel arguments in /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[04:11] <bobn> !tell bobn aboput ubotu
[04:11] <bobn> !help
[04:11] <Hobbsee> !ubotu
[04:11] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:11] <mushtaq> thanks bobn ;)
[04:11] <ajordao> Toma-, i know why :)
[04:11] <ajordao> Toma-, i'm with lilo
[04:11] <Toma-> oh no :(
[04:11] <ajordao> because grub doesnt work here
[04:11] <bobn> mushtaq: no problem - hope it helped.
[04:11] <Toma-> should still work tho
[04:11] <ghmkfyfy> ok thanks
[04:12] <mauricio> nalioth, gracias...
[04:12] <Toma-> put "splash" in the kernel arguments in /etc/lilo.conf
[04:12] <nalioth> bobn: you need to be registered to have ubotu help you
[04:12] <OneSeventeen___> it looks like someone keeps trying various ports and various usernames to log into my server, how do I block IP's from accessing my server?
[04:12] <iceman> Dang dang ... just guiding Diablo and Wine to find tha cd rom
[04:12] <nalioth> mauricio: da nada
[04:12] <ajordao> Toma-, ok
[04:12] <bobn> mushtaq: nmap may have some of these features too, but fping is optimized wor what you asked about.
[04:12] <sizzam> anyone know the command to restart the Gnome sound server
[04:12] <JimH_> can someone tell me how to get shoutcast to work on the LIVECD
[04:12] <bobn> nalioth: resgistered as in IRC nickserv?
[04:13] <ajordao> Toma-, just "splash" ?
[04:13] <Toma-> sizzam: esd &
[04:13] <nalioth> bobn: correct
[04:13] <Hobbsee> bobn: yes
[04:13] <Toma-> ajordao: yep
[04:13] <ajordao> Toma-, ok thx
[04:13] <ajordao> i'll try
[04:13] <Toma-> its also nice to put "quiet" in there
[04:13] <ajordao> brb
[04:13] <sizzam> Toma- what if ALSA is my default in the media selector, would it be alsa &  ?
[04:13] <Toma-> gets rid of the yucky kernel output ;)
[04:13] <bobn> actually it seems to respond to me in a pm.
[04:13] <Toma-> sizzam: nope.
[04:13] <Toma-> sizzam: thats just telling esd to use alsa
[04:14] <ajordao> Toma-, Unrecognized token "splash" at or above line 10 in file '/etc/lilo.conf'
[04:14] <Toma-> hmm.
[04:14] <CaBlGuY> ok, got the drive mounted..  thanks hobbsee
[04:14] <CaBlGuY> :)
[04:14] <sizzam> Toma- thanks
[04:14] <Hobbsee> no problems CaBlGuY
[04:14] <Toma-> ajordao: can you spam me the line?
[04:14] <bobn> but not to the help command - just said "target invalid?" anfd listed 71 topics
[04:14] <CaBlGuY> ok now, my music player keeps saying unexpected end of stream while listeing to online streams..
[04:15] <ajordao> Toma-, it just was that i pasted
[04:15] <CaBlGuY> any ideas?
[04:15] <iceman> whats the wine channel ?
[04:15] <hosler> All i get is static when trying to play mp3s in xmms. Help!
[04:15] <iceman> #winehq
[04:15] <Toma-> the line you edited
[04:15] <hosler> !mp3
[04:15] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[04:15] <CaBlGuY> I'm using rythmbox
[04:15] <Toma-> ajordao: the line you edited in lilo.conf
[04:16] <bobn> !tell bobn listkeys
[04:16] <bobn> !tell bobn lart
[04:16] <JimH_> I tried rythmbox but it doesnt work
[04:16] <bastardkestrel> im wondering, should my cpu go up to 100% when opening a browser?
[04:16] <thesilentkiller> i need to install eclipse. i am seeing mixed opinions about whether to download it directly from eclipse.org, or use synaptic. any suggestions?
[04:16] <nalioth> bobn: identify yourself and talk to ubotu in a /msg
[04:17] <Toma-> thesilentkiller: synaptic
[04:17] <hosler> All i get is static when trying to play mp3s in xmms. Help!
[04:17] <CaBlGuY> so, what should I use for stremaing radio?
[04:17] <crimsun> thesilentkiller: if you only need to use eclipse by itself, just install eclipse-platform using Synaptic
[04:17] <thesilentkiller> Toma-: are you using eclipse continuously? cuz I've heard people complain that eclipse gives errors later on....long after you start using it.
[04:17] <grodius> hey my breezy update is going at like 600 b/s are all the servers that slow?
[04:18] <Toma-> thesilentkiller: not using eclipse.
[04:18] <thesilentkiller> crimsun: "use eclipse by itself", as against?
[04:18] <ajordao> Toma-, so..
[04:18] <thesilentkiller> Toma-: okie.....
[04:18] <Toma-> thesilentkiller: thats got nothing to do with where you download it fom tho.
[04:18] <CaBlGuY> grodius, I just got done getting all the updates (113) and mine wasn't that slow..
[04:18] <hosler> !java
[04:18] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[04:18] <hosler> !javadeb
[04:18] <bastardkestrel> does anyone know if 100% cpu usage when opening a browser is normal
[04:18] <thesilentkiller> Toma-: What ive heard is that the packaging of eclipse for apt-get is kinda screwed up....i dont know the details cuz i know foot about packaging
[04:18] <crimsun> thesilentkiller: as opposed to using eclipse in addition to plugins, etc.
[04:19] <nalioth> hosler: ?? careful where you point that thing
[04:19] <CaBlGuY> bastard, no, that's not normal..
[04:19] <Spidy> Does anyone know how I'd  mount a partition on PowerPC?
[04:19] <CaBlGuY> might want to reboot
[04:19] <Toma-> ajordao: gimme the line from lilo.conf... eg "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash"
[04:19] <jasonb> pwd
[04:19] <mustard5> hosler, have you checked your preferences in xmms for which output plugin your are using?
[04:19] <ajordao> Toma-, its in your pvt
[04:19] <soporific> ls
[04:19] <bastardkestrel> CaBlGuy: it goes it only for a moment
[04:19] <hosler> mustard5: yeah, im using esd
[04:19] <thesilentkiller> crimson: u mean, adding plugins to eclipse?
[04:19] <nalioth> Spidy: did you get your PM from ubotu?
[04:19] <Toma-> i never got anything in pvt..
[04:20] <Spidy> yes, I got it.
[04:20] <mustard5> hosler, have you tried changing it?
[04:20] <sig> hey guys, is there a place where I can download the w32codecs via apt ?
[04:20] <hosler> mustard5: yeah
[04:20] <Razor-X> thesilentkiller: just a tip, are you familiar with tab-complete?
[04:20] <nalioth> Spidy: that script will take care of your mounting
[04:20] <sig> apt-get install http://place.com ?
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> bastardkestrel well, if it's only for a second, then it's not biggie, if it stayed @ 100% then, it would be an issue
[04:20] <soporific> hello does anyone know how to execute a file.pl extension i believe it's perl script
[04:20] <thesilentkiller> Razor-X: yeah, i am. why?
[04:20] <Parisi> Is anyone here on RR broadband?
[04:20] <bimberi> sig: /mst ubotu w32codecs
[04:20] <hosler> Parisi: yes
[04:20] <Toma-> soporific: "perl perlscript.pl"
[04:20] <nalioth> Parisi: only about half of us
[04:20] <sig> bimberi: ?
[04:20] <Razor-X> thesilentkiller: because you typed crimsun's name in, that's not near lazy enough :P
[04:20] <bimberi> sig: oops /msg
[04:21] <bastardkestrel> CaBlGuy:  its a centrino notebook so maybe thats normal
[04:21] <soporific> thanks toma
[04:21] <Parisi> Does everyone else's upload cap suck? or is that just me.
[04:21] <bastardkestrel> CaBlGuy:   it does go back down to 3%
[04:21] <Parisi> I find it barely adequate.
[04:21] <Spidy> nalioth: I never got a script that would do my mounting for me...and the howto didn't work.
[04:21] <Toma-> ajordao: im not getting anything in priv msgs...
[04:21] <h0sl3r> Parisi: mine is fine
[04:21] <Parisi> h0sl3r what is yours?
[04:21] <h0sl3r> over 100 kb
[04:21] <Parisi> I get 45 kb/s
[04:22] <Parisi> Thats bad.
[04:22] <thesilentkiller> Razor-X: what the heck!! nice find Razor-X. That was one type where i was impatient to get it right with tab-complete and i decided to type it myself!!! and i went wrong. aaah!
[04:22] <nalioth> Spidy: the script is called winmac_fstab
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> bastardkestrel yeah, I wouldnm't worry aboutnit to much, if it's a notebook, you should b fine
[04:22] <bastardkestrel> i managed to correct some of my laptop errors by removing glx
[04:22] <Moppin> anyone have a good repository that has liblame-dev ?
[04:22] <ajordao> Toma-, i've pasted there one more time
[04:22] <nalioth> Spidy: get it here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[04:22] <h0sl3r> Parisi: if there are a lot of people using RR in your area it might make it slow
[04:23] <Toma-> ajordao: nothing. paste in here
[04:23] <bastardkestrel> thanks
[04:23] <nalioth> Spidy: instructions are written into it
[04:23] <tritium> Moppin: multiverse
[04:23] <Spidy> nalioth: Okay, thanks!
[04:23] <Parisi> h0sl3r I wish they would up the cap, it has been 384 mbs for years.
[04:23] <WoundUp> hello
[04:23] <Parisi> Actually, 45 kb/s
[04:23] <nalioth> Toma-: do not invite folks to paste in here, please
[04:23] <Spidy> nalioth: Would I run it as a perl script, or?
[04:24] <nalioth> Spidy: it is a bash script. open it with a text editor and read the instructions
[04:24] <ghmkfyfy> hi dro
[04:24] <Spidy> nalioth: okee
[04:24] <Toma-> sigh
[04:24] <pospeselr> Can anyone help me out with a problem with my touchpad?
[04:24] <Toma-> ajordao: if its more than 1 line, throw it in a pastebin in the topic
[04:25] <pospeselr> can anyone help me out with a problem with my touchpad?
[04:25] <tritium> ajordao: or use #flood
[04:26] <WoundUp> Back to my original question:  Hey anybody here used the LTSP in 5.10?
[04:26] <strat> anyone know how to install crosover??it wont install with sudo....when i try to do  su... and enter pasword it says  password failed..how can i get su  to work under ubuntu??
[04:26] <thesilentkiller> crimsun: i am still a little confused with what you said about using eclipse directly as against using plugins. in the second case, did you mean adding plugins to eclipse?
[04:26] <crimsun> thesilentkiller: anything external that you would manually add
[04:26] <Toma-> strat: try "sudo -s"
[04:26] <ajordao> Toma-, http://pastebin.com/404797
[04:26] <Parisi> strat You could enable it if thats what you really want.
[04:26] <Razor-X> strat: or ``sudo -i''
[04:27] <Parisi> strat su passwd root
[04:27] <Netslayer> how long does it take to get ordered cds? anyone know
[04:27] <thesilentkiller> crimsun: I am not planning on adding anything manually. but i am intending to install a lot of plugins. that shouldnt be a problem?
[04:27] <WoundUp> strat are you my any chance on perlmonks with the same nick?
[04:27] <Razor-X> Netslayer: not really sure, i've heard anywhere from 2-5 weeks
[04:27] <strat> no..not me..
[04:28] <CaBlGuY> ok so, what media player do I need to get??
[04:28] <crimsun> thesilentkiller: you will want to install eclipse manually after downloading and installing a jre "the Debian way"
[04:28] <CaBlGuY> so I can play my radio streams?
[04:28] <WoundUp> OK.  probably common nick among guitar players.
[04:28] <patrickj> does guifications work in ubuntu?
[04:28] <Toma-> ajordao: you want it like this... http://pastebin.com/404798
[04:28] <patrickj> because I wanna install it for Gaim
[04:28] <phasegen> have they got dvd movie support working for breezy yet?
[04:28] <ajordao> Toma-, i've done that
[04:28] <nalioth> phasegen: yes
[04:29] <ajordao> Toma-, didn't work to
[04:29] <thesilentkiller> crimsun: okie. i guess i will install it manually. i have installed jdk1.5 and that seems to be holding on fine. also, eclipse's updating feature is pretty good by itself. so i guess i wouldnt need to have it under synaptic
[04:29] <frank23> phasegen: dvd's have always worked if you install what you need
[04:29] <Toma-> hmmm. i now hate lilo even more
[04:29] <ajordao> Toma-, Unrecognized token "splash" at or above line 16 in file '/etc/lilo.conf'
[04:29] <ajordao> Toma-, i hate grub
[04:29] <Razor-X> Toma-: *points to the GRUB-happy-rainbow
[04:29] <patrickj> also once I make and make install something, can I delete the source directory's?
[04:29] <phasegen> nalioth: is it posted in the wiki where to find it?
[04:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell phasegen about dvd
[04:30] <Toma-> ajordao: well im stumped. and i gotta goto work.
[04:30] <Toma-> good luck :S
[04:31] <patrickj> how do I install the compiler packages in breezy?
[04:31] <israel> what do I need to install to get fonts.  I get the message "Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion all over the place.
[04:31] <tritium> patrickj: install build-essential
[04:31] <nalioth> patrickj: install "build-essential"
[04:31] <patrickj> E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[04:31] <crimsun> build-essential
[04:31] <bimberi> patrickj: drop the last s
[04:32] <ajordao> anyone can help me in this subject ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80282&highlight=grub+17
[04:32] <patrickj> haha I noticed :P
[04:32] <thesilentkiller> what torrent client would you guys suggest for breezy? in XP, i am used to Azureus. but it acts a bit cranky in breezy (throws errors in the background)
[04:32] <patrickj> im compiling guifications, so I kinda needed the build essentials
[04:32] <patrickj> breezy rox, I like it out of all linux distros :P
[04:32] <adriyel__> thesilentkiller, use the default client that comes with Breezy?
[04:32] <bimberi> patrickj: also, you should consider using checkinstall (another package) when the install process reaches "make install"
[04:32] <qt2> away. o>
[04:32] <strat> ??how do you enable su  ?tried  sudo -s  and sudo -i..neither worked
[04:32] <Razor-X> thesilentkiller: qtorrent or gtorrent for GUI, and BitTornado for CLI
[04:32] <Spidy> noliath: the script worked, but I can't actually access the partitions. Any other ideas?
[04:33] <phasegen> Goodnight all, peace and love, or at least a piece of love...
[04:33] <CaBlGuY> ok, now I need a radio stream player, and a video player, as totem isn't playing any of my flix..
[04:33] <CaBlGuY> anyone?
[04:33] <Razor-X> CaBlGuY: have you tried mplayer?
[04:33] <nalioth> strat: that is unusual
[04:33] <patrickj> bah wont compile, some stupid error
[04:33] <patrickj> o well
[04:33] <thesilentkiller> adriyel__: hmm, k. using that now. thanks
[04:33] <patrickj> any alternative to it?
[04:33] <CaBlGuY> where do I get it?
[04:33] <thesilentkiller> Razor-X: will check those out. thanks
[04:33] <adriyel__> thesilentkiller, no problem.
[04:33] <israel> what do I need to install to get fonts.  I get the message "Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion all over the place.
[04:33] <nalioth> Spidy: what errors do you get? (dont paste more than a line in here)
[04:34] <CaBlGuY> Razor-xwhere do I get it?
[04:34] <Spidy> nalioth: invalid fs type
[04:34] <CaBlGuY> Razor-x where do I get it?
[04:34] <perre> there is a problem with my kde 3.4, it doesnt mount devices automatically, how can i fix this?
[04:34] <Razor-X> CaBlGuY: as long as you have the codecs, the repos should have it
[04:34] <CaBlGuY> sorry, not typing good tonight.  :p
[04:34] <Riddell> perre: install kdebase updates from breezy-updates
[04:34] <strat> crossover says i need to either log in as root or  use su..it wont worl with sudo..
[04:34] <Razor-X> and you too CaBlGuY, are you using tab-complete? :P
[04:34] <perre> thnx riddell
[04:34] <Razor-X> strat: not even sudo -s or sudo -i ?
[04:35] <CaBlGuY> tab complete??
[04:35] <bimberi> CaBlGuY: try typing "raz" then hit the tab key
[04:35] <nalioth> Spidy: what kind of mac are you using?
[04:35] <CaBlGuY> and where do I go to get to the repos?
[04:35] <Spidy> nalioth: eMac
[04:35] <patrickj> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3579
[04:35] <CaBlGuY> bimberi,  word..  :p
[04:35] <bimberi> CaBlGuY: :)
[04:35] <Razor-X> CaBlGuY: exactly what bimberi said, do you really think I spend the type and spell your name out in full special capitalization? :P
[04:35] <Razor-X> CaBlGuY: i'm much too lazy for that
[04:35] <perre> riddell it says that the package is already updetes
[04:36] <perre> updated
[04:36] <CaBlGuY> Razor-X,  LMAO..  yeah I hear ya..
[04:36] <patrickj> i need a really nice XMMS/BMP theme, not one of those tacki 1996 looking ones
[04:36] <nalioth> Spidy: paste your /etc/fstab to a pastebin
[04:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Spidy about paste
[04:36] <Razor-X> CaBlGuY: I almost *never* type in a person's name in full, two to three leters suffices
[04:36] <Spidy> nalioth, how would I get my /etc/fstab?
[04:36] <strat> nope..sudo -s didnt work..and sudo -i,,it did same thing..but wouldnt even launch the installer..complained about something about x
[04:36] <CaBlGuY> Razor-X,  so where do I find the repos??
[04:36] <Hobbsee> !repos
[04:36] <ubotu> sources is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[04:36] <Razor-X> oh, he beat me to it :P
[04:37] <nalioth> Spidy: open a terminal and type "gedit /etc/fstab"
[04:37] <Razor-X> maybe I should add an emacs macro for !repos
[04:37] <Spidy> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3580
[04:37] <that_weasel> anyone using ndiswrapper with a wep key?
[04:38] <bimberi> patrickj: enable the source repisotories, then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[04:38] <nalioth> Spidy: now type "mount" in your terminal and paste it, please
[04:38] <patrickj> I DO have gaim install though, that the thing
[04:38] <strat> guess ill try the crossover room..
[04:38] <Discipulus> Why couldn't Avagadro have kids?
[04:38] <patrickj> and I dont have time to build it anyways :P
[04:38] <samue1> hi again :)
[04:38] <patrickj> Im using it right now ffs
[04:38] <Razor-X> Discipulus: hahahaha!
[04:38] <CaBlGuY> Razor-X, ok, lets say that Im a total n00b to all this..  (cause I am) :p and I have no clue on how to get stuff from the repos. unless it's in the drop down (start) menu...
[04:38] <Spidy> nalioth, paste the entire /etc/fstab?
[04:39] <bimberi> patrickj: yes, maybe, but not the source code requirements for compiling gaim
[04:39] <Hobbsee> Spidy: in the pastebin, yes
[04:39] <Razor-X> Discipulus: who would want a father that made such a lame law, and had such a lame constant named after him?
[04:39] <patrickj> urgh
[04:39] <Discipulus> Razor-X, because he couldn't mole-tiply?
[04:39] <Razor-X> !tell CaBlGuY about repos
[04:39] <Discipulus> -?
[04:39] <Razor-X> Discipulus: :P
[04:39] <patrickj> I wont bother with the damm thing then, Ill do it morrow, but if I do what you said, will I still have my current gaim?
[04:39] <patrickj> as main one
[04:39] <Razor-X> Discipulus: but you know, he didn't coin the mole constant
[04:39] <patrickj> or will it overwrite?
[04:39] <Spidy> nalioth, how do I paste it into the terminal?
[04:39] <Razor-X> Discipulus: it was simply named after him
[04:39] <Discipulus> Razor-X, who made it?
[04:39] <Razor-X> Discipulus: he made the gas law though
[04:39] <CaBlGuY> Razor-X, yeah, I got those..  but ummm  I dunno what to do with em..
[04:40] <CaBlGuY> :o/
[04:40] <Discipulus> ah
[04:40] <P8ntKid> Where can i get the extra repos for breezy?
[04:40] <nalioth> Spidy: type "mount" <enter> and copy what is returned to you in the terminal
[04:40] <Spidy> nalioth, okee
[04:40] <Razor-X> Discipulus: I don't remember offhand who coined mole constant
[04:40] <nalioth> Spidy: paste that text in a pastebin, please
[04:40] <Discipulus> Razor-X, who made the law of uncertainty?
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> I'm running tpb (ThinkPad buttons), and I want a button to open Firefox.  My problem is that when it does so it also opens the Profile Manager.  The browser still opens just fine, but it's a bit annoying to have to go back and close the PM each time.  Does anyone know how I should modify my command line in tpbrc to force the PM not to show?
[04:40] <Razor-X> CaBlGuY: you ran an update in apt-get or uncertainty?
[04:40] <Razor-X> Discipulus: Heisenburg, of course
[04:40] <patrickj> bimberi: ?
[04:40] <deadangel> umm?  i'm lost
[04:40] <Spidy> nalioth, k
[04:40] <Razor-X> Discipulus: contributed by Einstein who used research from Planck
[04:41] <CaBlGuY> Razor-X,  I ran aop get in Terminal..
[04:41] <dracflamloc> does an intel pro wireless 2915 work in ubuntu?
[04:41] <CaBlGuY> *apt - get
[04:41] <samue1> ok i have had fedora and ubuntu both on this PC, i wanna ditch fedora but grub was installed by fedora, how do i reinstall grub from ubuntu? i tried grub > setup (hd0) and root (hd1,1) and it says selected disk does not exist!
[04:41] <Spidy> nalioth, how do I copy it out of the terminal? Ctrl+c doesn't seem to work.
[04:41] <Razor-X> CaBlGuY: ``apt-get update'' ?
[04:41] <Discipulus> Razor-X, Heisenburg got pulled over by a cop. Cop said, 'do you know how fast you were going?' and Heisenburg said 'No, but I know exactly where I am at.'
[04:41] <Razor-X> Discipulus: HAHAHAHAHAHA
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> dracflamloc: Mine does.
[04:41] <Razor-X> that's an *excellent* joke
[04:41] <nalioth> Spidy: highlight and right click
[04:41] <Razor-X> I have a Calculus one, if you wanna listen
[04:41] <bimberi> patrickj: (i missed it because you didn't use my nick :) ) yes
[04:41] <Spidy> nalioth, ah, thank you.
[04:41] <nalioth> Spidy: or use f12 since you have no right click
[04:41] <Discipulus> I'm in pre-calc, I might not understand it
[04:42] <CaBlGuY> Razor-X,  ummmm  what u talkin about??  I did the update on the wizard thingy..
[04:42] <Discipulus> but give it a shot
[04:42] <deadangel> no wonder i'm fuckin lost.  i'm out.
[04:42] <that_weasel> P8ntKid: start synaptic...Settings>Repositories the click the Settings button, and select "Show disabled software sources"
[04:42] <dracflamloc> tonyyarusso, awesome =)
[04:42] <Razor-X> Discipulus: mmm, so am I, but I research math ahead, so...
[04:42] <tritium> Razor-X, Discipulus please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:42] <Spidy> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3582
[04:42] <Razor-X> CaBlGuY: oh, great
[04:42] <Razor-X> Discipulus: yeah, let's take it to offtopic
[04:42] <CaBlGuY> Razor-X,  :o)
[04:42] <Razor-X> CaBlGuY: now try search for mplayer
[04:42] <patrickj> okay so It just downloads the sources, doesnt overwrite the default gaim that comes with ubuntu?
[04:42] <Spidy> nalioth, nah, I have right click. 8 button mice rule.
[04:42] <Discipulus> Razor-X, you mean #offtopic ?
[04:42] <Razor-X> Discipulus: #ubuntu-offtopic, yeah
[04:42] <CaBlGuY> Razor-X,  ummmm where?
[04:42] <patrickj> bimberi: okay so It just downloads the sources, doesnt overwrite the default gaim that comes with ubuntu?
[04:42] <patrickj> therE :P
[04:43] <man_exec> hi all
[04:43] <CaBlGuY> Howdy man o/
[04:43] <man_exec> I'm in breezy and can't see my vfat drives
[04:43] <Weems> what do I need to install to enable xshm tinting in xchat 2.4.5 (trying to compile as there is no binary)
[04:43] <Razor-X> CaBlGuY: in synaptic/kynaptic/apt-get (pick one of those that applies)
[04:43] <man_exec> can anyone help me access them?
[04:43] <bimberi> patrickj: yes :) it just downloads, it won't compile and install an alternative gaim.  You have to do that separately
[04:43] <man_exec> I can find them in cfdisk
[04:43] <nalioth> Spidy: one more thing: type "sudo fdisk -l" and paste that please
[04:43] <patrickj> okay
[04:43] <CaBlGuY> !tell man_exec windows drives
[04:44] <Spidy> nalioth, k
[04:44] <patrickj> so once i get that I can install guifications?
[04:44] <minnie> Trying to get my hp psc 1350 printer working with the HP driver..anybody had any luck with that before?
[04:44] <Spidy> nalioth, _ALL_ of it?
[04:44] <patrickj> bimberi: how do I enable the source repos?
[04:44] <nalioth> Spidy: there isnt that much
[04:44] <CaBlGuY> Razor-X,  ahh  you mean the app installer thingy??
[04:44] <nalioth> CaBlGuY: it's !tell <NICK> about <FACTOID>
[04:44] <bimberi> patrickj: i don't know about the guifications, i'm going from the build error you pastebinned
[04:44] <tritium> patrickj: you can get guifications at any time (it's in the repos)
[04:44] <Spidy> nalioth, I've got about 16000 lines.
[04:44] <CaBlGuY> nalioth,  word..
[04:44] <dutchguy> has anyone tried the Ubuntu Server?
[04:44] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:45] <bimberi> patrickj: uncomment them in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:45] <nalioth> Spidy: when you type "sudo fdisk -l" you get thousands of lines?
[04:45] <Spidy> nalioth, yes. Those are apparently under drivers, though. I killed it quickly and this is what I got: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3584
[04:45] <bimberi> patrickj: they will be lines beginning with "deb-src".
[04:46] <patrickj> aparently already had em uncommented :/
[04:46] <patrickj> lol
[04:46] <nalioth> Spidy: did you type "sudo" ?
[04:46] <dutchguy> anyone know how to add telnet server to the Ubuntu server version?
[04:46] <Spidy> nalioth, yes.
[04:46] <Spidy> nalioth, wait...no.
[04:46] <bimberi> patrickj: fine, you can go straight to apt-get build-dep gaim
[04:47] <Spidy> nalioth, with sudo though, same thing.
[04:47] <patrickj> one step ahead of you :P
[04:47] <frank23> dutchguy: wouldn't ssh be better?
[04:47] <chris86wm> hey guys, i have a bunch of pictures that i want to set to cycle as my screensaver. can i do that in ubuntu?
[04:47] <nalioth> Spidy: in your terminal type "man mount"
[04:47] <bimberi> dutchguy: probably apt-get install telnetd (although ssh is better)
[04:47] <Spidy> nalioth, k
[04:47] <tritium> patrickj: why are you building gaim, anyway?
[04:47] <johnny> uggh.. telnet is scary
[04:47] <Spidy> nalioth, okay, got that.
[04:47] <dutchguy> its just on an LAN though so its ok
[04:47] <patrickj> im not, its guifications :P
[04:47] <minnie> Chris...that's easy.
[04:48] <chris86wm> lol i cant find the option to do it
[04:48] <tritium> patrickj: okay, why are you building guifications, instead of just installing them?
[04:48] <CaBlGuY> Razor-X, ok, did a search, nothin..  it's not there..
[04:48] <bimberi> tritium: patrickj got this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3579
[04:48] <minnie> Go into System, preferences, screen saver Chris
[04:48] <chris86wm> i assume its in the screensaver preferences window
[04:48] <chris86wm> yeah
[04:48] <patrickj> oh..is there a package in the repos?
[04:48] <johnny> argh.. can't get build deps for php5 .. cuz it needs some snmp libs.. which i dont' even care about
[04:48] <chris86wm> im there
[04:48] <minnie> And then at the top there is a pulldown men.
[04:48] <minnie> You have the option of one screensave..
[04:48] <patrickj> E: Couldn't find package guifications
[04:48] <minnie> or multiple...or whatever.
[04:48] <chris86wm> yeah
[04:48] <patrickj> thats why :P
[04:49] <Spidy> nalioth, just read it
[04:49] <tritium> patrickj: apt-cache search guifications
[04:49] <Spidy> nalioth, ?
[04:49] <tritium> !info gaim-guifications
[04:49] <ubotu> gaim-guifications: (toaster popups for gaim), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.12-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 133 kB, Installed size: 844 kB
[04:49] <samue1> if my first hard drive is windows and my second hard drive is ubuntu in grub would i type setup (hd0) or setup (hd1) ?
[04:49] <minnie> So click random and check the ones you want to cycle through Chris.
[04:49] <tritium> patrickj: you've got to look around a bit ;)
[04:49] <bimberi> patrickj: sorry, i should of thought of that :/ (thanks tritium)
[04:49] <nalioth> Spidy: i'm not much on mounting things
[04:49] <patrickj> haha thanks :P
[04:49] <Spidy> nalioth, okee, gonna read it and attempt to stumble through. Thanks for the help, though.
[04:49] <dooglus> minnie: you didn't read his question properly.  he has a bunch of photos he wants to see, not a bunch of screensavers.
[04:50] <chris86wm> well see, i dont want to cycle through screensavers. just some pictures that i took
[04:50] <nalioth> Spidy: google may provide some simpler howtos
[04:50] <chris86wm> would it be this "image manipulation" thing?
[04:50] <iceman> Ok, god Diablo to work, now to get bnet to Work in wine ... anyone able to help there
[04:51] <frank23> iceman: check the transgaming wiki
[04:51] <man_exec> back again.  hi again.
[04:51] <adriyel__> iceman, can't help you, cedega user here. happy for it too
[04:51] <Spidy> nalioth, alright, thank you.
[04:51] <frank23> iceman: there is a network thing to do
[04:51] <chris86wm> hmm
[04:51] <frank23> iceman: oh wine. I read cedega
[04:52] <patrickj> alright nice, I got it going :P
[04:52] <patrickj> thanks
[04:52] <chris86wm> you think it would be in the screensavers list
[04:53] <dooglus> chris86wm: wouldn't you!  I'm trying to find it too
[04:53] <chris86wm> lol
[04:53] <dooglus> chris86wm: perhaps 'xlockmore' has something?
[04:53] <chris86wm> i was looking in the forums but didnt find anything on it
[04:54] <iceman> cedega got a link to them .. is it available with apt-get
[04:54] <vengeful> cedega isnt free software
[04:55] <dooglus> vengeful: the source code is available from CVS though
[04:55] <vengeful> i guess
[04:55] <chris86wm> im thinking its in the advanced tab
[04:55] <iceman> can you Apt-Get Cedega ?
[04:55] <Orborde> Why is it that some web pages seem to require 2D hardware acceleration and others don't? Due to incompatibility, I don't have any graphical acceleration, and so on most pages scrolling is kind of laggy in Firefox. But on a few pages, it's blazing fast. Why?
[04:55] <vengeful> they dont really like people doing that..and encourage you not to on the website
[04:55] <bur[n] e1> iceman: no, you buy it ;)
[04:55] <patrickj> im making an ubuntu wallpaper and I need a good version of the logo
[04:56] <CaBlGuY> im not finding mplayer in the software downloads..
[04:56] <CaBlGuY> :
[04:56] <patrickj> with a transparent background
[04:56] <bur[n] e1> CaBlGuY: got universe repositories?
[04:56] <aeon17x> Orborde: some pages have a lot of graphical stuff on them... anyway, why don't you have graphical acceleration. What card are you using?
[04:56] <bur[n] e1> patrickj: ubuntu.com has a page with ubuntu artwork for use
[04:56] <CaBlGuY> bur[n] e1,  wussat??
[04:56] <iceman> Well, got to buy it, no trial... screwed up...
[04:56] <bur[n] e1> !tell CaBlGuY about repositories
[04:56] <patrickj> alright sweet :P
[04:56] <bur[n] e1> CaBlGuY: check yer msgs
[04:56] <goodwill> is there a reason why scroll lock does not light up under X?
[04:56] <bur[n] e1> iceman: it's only $5 a month for a total of 3 months... == $15
[04:57] <bur[n] e1> iceman: it works well though!  I'll vouch for it
[04:57] <patrickj> not seeing it there...
[04:58] <iceman> #winehq
[04:58] <patrickj> ?
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> man_exec: Are you still looking for vfat drive help?
[04:58] <bur[n] e1> patrickj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityArtwork
[04:58] <CaBlGuY> bur[n] e1,  ok Razor-X  already showed me that, but I dunno what to do with it..
[04:58] <CaBlGuY> what am I posed to do with it??
[04:58] <patrickj> thnks :D
[04:58] <_jason> !tell patrickj about art
[04:58] <bur[n] e1> CaBlGuY: you read it and apply what you read
[04:58] <bur[n] e1> patrickj: np
[04:59] <chris86wm> dang man, i dont know
[04:59] <theine> Has anybody seen a Debian package for the VMware player?
[04:59] <seife> Where do i get into theme preview?
[04:59] <CaBlGuY> bur[n] e1,  read what??  It's a bunch of http sites, and deb stuff whatever the hell that is.,.
[04:59] <samuel__> openoffice reads my printer but it does not print and just stays qued
[04:59] <adriyel__> theine, there won't be one for awhile...well, there might be one in unstable eventually...
[04:59] <CaBlGuY> one more time just so EVERYONE knows..
[05:00] <samuel__> what do i do?
[05:00] <CaBlGuY> :p
[05:00] <dooglus> chris86wm: I can't find anything.  That's really quite strange.  Why no 'image' screensaver?
[05:00] <bur[n] e1> CaBlGuY: so read what is on those "http" sites
[05:00] <chris86wm> you would think it would be a standard thing. they have the "scrolling text"
[05:00] <samuel__> openoffice reads my printer but it does not print and just stays qued
[05:00] <bur[n] e1> that msg points you to a wiki page
[05:00] <bur[n] e1> read that wiki page
[05:00] <samuel__> what do i do?
[05:00] <nalioth> CaBlGuY: we're all new to something
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> How can I leave a memo for someone with nickserv?  (I know this is off-topic, so if there's somewhere you can redirect me to, that's fine.)
[05:01] <bur[n] er`> tonyyarusso: using memoserv
[05:01] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: /msg memoserv help
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> 'k, thanks.
[05:01] <CaBlGuY> dammit..
[05:02] <theine> adriyel__, I'm not looking for an `official' one
[05:02] <chris86wm> dooglus: from what i am reading, i think there is one in kde
[05:02] <CaBlGuY> all I wanna do is be able to hear my radio streams and watch my videos..
[05:02] <bur[n] er`> CaBlGuY: don't be lazy
[05:02] <theine> adriyel__, just something somebody cooked up in his speartime...
[05:02] <bur[n] er`> CaBlGuY: all the info is laid out pretty well in the wiki
[05:03] <CaBlGuY> be lazy???   how the fuk am I being lazy when I have NO CLUE wtf to do?!?!
[05:03] <sig> is ubuntuguide.org dead?
[05:03] <tritium> CaBlGuY: easy on the bad language
[05:03] <CaBlGuY> whatever the hell wiki is..
[05:03] <bur[n] er`> !restricted
[05:03] <dooglus> chris86wm: I remember something in KDE, yes.
[05:03] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[05:03] <sig> CaBlGuY: I'll help yolu
[05:03] <nalioth> sig: it might as well be, it is way out of sync with breezy (and will kill it quickly)
[05:04] <nalioth> CaBlGuY: help.ubuntu.com
[05:04] <sig> I see
[05:04] <sig> CaBlGuY: get mplayer
[05:04] <shinu> i want to run a small loop in the shell, how do i use a variable: say, wget something(variable).jpg?
[05:04] <sig> and w32codecs
[05:04] <sig> mplayer -vo xv -ao alsa -fs movie.avi
[05:04] <sig> etc...
[05:04] <bur[n] er`> ooh... nice link for newbs nalioth :)
[05:04] <CaBlGuY> sig yeah yur the 3rd person to tell me that..
[05:04] <shinu> where variable is going to be incremented after each iteration
[05:04] <chris86wm> dooglus: ah found it!!!!
[05:04] <CaBlGuY> but, it's not in the software dowload thingy..
[05:04] <thesilentkiller> i found ubuntuguide very useful for hoary. wish they wud continue the good work
[05:04] <dooglus> shinu: for i in a b c; do wget http://blah.com/$i.html; done
[05:05] <bur[n] er`> !w32codecs
[05:05] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[05:05] <tritium> CaBlGuY: yes, it is.
[05:05] <chris86wm> dooglus: its called GLSlideshow
[05:05] <CaBlGuY> not in mine it's not..
[05:05] <CaBlGuY> hang on..
[05:05] <dooglus> chris86wm: that's a screensaver?
[05:05] <chris86wm> dooglus: yes, it is in the list
[05:05] <chris86wm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32382&highlight=image+screensaver
[05:05] <bur[n] er`> dooglus: it is
[05:05] <chris86wm> i was wrong, it was in the forums
[05:06] <P8ntKid> What file managers do you all use?
[05:06] <sig> mcedit
[05:06] <CaBlGuY> apllications installer, sound and video, all I have is...  Music player, sound juicer, Totem, and XMMS..  that's it..
[05:06] <sig> mc
[05:06] <CaBlGuY> nothin else.
[05:06] <dabaR> P8ntKid: ones that come with the system:P
[05:06] <var> P8ntKid: konqueror for gui  and mc for cli
[05:06] <dooglus> shinu: i=0; while ((i<10)); do wget http://blah.com/$i.jpg; ((i=i+1)); done
[05:06] <shinu> dooglus: do i need double brackets around 'a b c' ?
[05:06] <P8ntKid> Anybody use rox?
[05:06] <shinu> oh...
[05:06] <P8ntKid> What terminals do you all use?
[05:06] <var> P8ntKid: gentoo is good also.
[05:07] <shinu> i use rox
[05:07] <dooglus> shinu: depends what you want to do.  if you're doing 'math' then use (( and ))
[05:07] <shinu> rarely though
[05:07] <dabaR> P8ntKid: did you consider posting a poll on the forums?
[05:07] <P8ntKid> var, I thought gentoo was a distro?
[05:07] <adriyel__> var, I'll pass on the cross-distro propaganda, thx :P
[05:07] <bytefoo> holy crap
[05:07] <bytefoo> i can highlight a music file and it will play a snippet
[05:07] <bytefoo> omg thats awesome :O
[05:07] <samuel__> openoffice reads my printer but it does not print and just stays qued
[05:07] <samuel__> what do i do?
[05:07] <cafuego> P8ntKid: No, it's ana abomination unto the eyes of Me.
[05:07] <sig> bytefoo: your lucky yours does, mine doesn't do that
[05:07] <var> so yall are saying you don't know that gentoo is a file manager ?
[05:07] <shinu> dooglus: what do you mean by that?..
[05:08] <dooglus> shinu: did you see the 'while' loop line?
[05:08] <cafuego> P8ntKid: ... and clearly off-topic here.
[05:08] <shinu> dooglus: yeah, should i do that instead of for?
[05:08] <dabaR> P8ntKid: but a poll on ther forums is fine...
[05:08] <nalioth> var: yes gentoo is a file manager, so is mc and krusader
[05:08] <sambagirl> paintkid what is rox?
[05:09] <dooglus> shinu: it depends what you want to do.  the "for i in a b c; do; ...; done" loop will set i to 'a', 'b' and 'c' in turn.  if you want numbers, use the while loop instead.
[05:09] <nalioth> sambagirl: rox-filer is a file manager/desktop manager
[05:09] <sambagirl> ohh
[05:09] <var> glad someone knew that nalioth
[05:09] <sambagirl> thjank you
[05:09] <pupil> where can I get the kernel sources for 2.6.12-9
[05:09] <P8ntKid> sambagirl, Its a file manager that I love.
[05:09] <iceman> OK how to set wine up to find the internet
[05:09] <shinu> dooglus: ok
[05:09] <sambagirl> does it work with ubuntu?
[05:09] <dooglus> shinu: I use 'for' mostly to do stuff like "for file in *.jpg; do convert $file; done"
[05:09] <cafuego> pupil: linux-source-2.6.12
[05:09] <chris86wm> YAY, i got it working!
[05:10] <shinu> dooglus: see..
[05:10] <Orborde> aeon17x: Sorry for the long delay. I have an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M, which, despite sounding incredibly sexy, I can't figure out how to configure with X.
[05:10] <dabaR> sambagirl: did you searc for it in your synaptic?
[05:10] <Bachus9000> I've followed the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75443 to recompile the kernel with swsup2 support and now ndiswrapper does not work.  When I insert my wireless card, the ndiswrapper module is loaded as normal, but when I try to assign an IP to the machine dhclient just goes in an loop.
[05:11] <jbroome> !ubuntuforums
[05:11] <ubotu> jbroome: Are you smoking crack?
[05:11] <jbroome> crap
[05:11] <cafuego> !forums 75443
[05:11] <pupil> cafuego, what exactly are you talking about ?
[05:11] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 75443 is: HOWTO: Suspend2 in Breezy - Ubuntu Forums
[05:11] <dabaR> jbroome: use !+ubuntuguide, or /msg ubotu tell person about ubuntuguide
[05:11] <shinu> dooglus: i corrected my for loop, it worked fine. i had a quote sign before my http:// so it didnt work :P
[05:12] <shinu> dooglus: thanks a lot :)
[05:12] <cafuego> pupil: The soruce for the 2.6.12-9 kernels is 'linux-source-2.6.12'. Youc na install it with apt-get.
[05:12] <dabaR> jbroome: preferably the other, I know what ubuntuguide is
[05:12] <josh43> Hey, with Breezy, I'm finally getting the ntfs partitions on the desktop, but I'm not allowed to read them (file permission error) - there's nothing special in fstab, is there anything I should check?
[05:12] <pupil> cafuego, ohh,. excellent,. thanks
[05:12] <cafuego> pupil: the -9 is appended in the build process.
[05:13] <sig> when I highlight sound files it doesn't play samples
[05:13] <sig> any idea?
[05:13] <sig> I have sound: preview: always on
[05:13] <dabaR> sig: foget you heard about it?
[05:13] <abarbaccia> hey all - i need some help with fans on MB headers and ubuntu - i want to reduce the voltage to a fan because its SO FREAKIN LOUD
[05:13] <sambagirl> what dabar i sorry i was playing TCE :D
[05:14] <sambagirl> hi dabar
[05:14] <sig> dabaR: ?
[05:14] <var> sig shot in the dark here, but in kde you can specify the max file size that it samples.  gnome may be like that too.
[05:14] <dabaR> hi
[05:14] <Hentai^sparc> does a officejet v40 work with ubuntu?
[05:14] <dabaR> sig: explain the use of that feature, and I will be a believer in it.
[05:15] <aeon17x> Hentai^sparc, what's an officejet v40?
[05:15] <sig> dabaR: so I can look for a song that I want
[05:15] <sig> instead of having to open each song
[05:15] <jbroome> it sprays ink in your face?
[05:15] <Hentai^sparc> its a all-in-one printer scanner fax copy
[05:15] <aeon17x> Look at System > Administration > Printing, and see if it has a driver for it.
[05:16] <dabaR> sig: isnt that what a name is for?
[05:16] <Hentai^sparc> oh boy crap
[05:16] <dabaR> sig: maybe I dont get it cause I dont have enough songs for that feature to be useful...
[05:16] <sig> dabaR: I have lots of music by #'s
[05:16] <nalioth> Hentai^sparc: you wander into the wrong room?
[05:16] <Hentai^sparc> and if it does aeon17x?
[05:16] <sig> dabaR: you just answered your own question with that last reply
[05:16] <dabaR> sig: use cddb
[05:16] <Hentai^sparc> nalioth no trying to get info about a printer
[05:16] <sig> bbiaf
[05:16] <dabaR> sig: I know.
[05:16] <aeon17x> Hentai^sparc: choose that one, and it'll create a printer setup for you.
[05:17] <Hentai^sparc> the printer is connected via usb but dunno if ubuntu should of autdetected that
[05:17] <pudland> msg NickServ IDENTIFY pudland
[05:17] <sambagirl> hehe pudland :D
[05:17] <nalioth> pudland: use a preceding / next time
[05:17] <pupil> lol
[05:17] <aeon17x> pudland: you forgot the slash.
[05:17] <jbroome> and a good password
[05:17] <Hentai^sparc> slash man use the slash
[05:17] <pudland> thanks, ive been drinking a bit
[05:17] <pudland> :-P
[05:18] <var> publand and change your passwd
[05:18] <nalioth> pudland: when you're sober, configure your client to do it for you
[05:18] <thesilentkiller> pudland frantically rushes to change his secret password :)
[05:18] <Hentai^sparc> nalioth just got to get my mom's printer setup to work with ubuntu than everything will be ok over there
[05:18] <dabaR> var: and use nicktab
[05:18] <var> yeah
[05:19] <CaBlGuY> sig u still there>??
[05:20] <dabaR> he is
[05:20] <adriyel__> Hentai^sparc, do you use sparc workstations/servers ?
[05:20] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> what app do i need to play WMA files?
[05:20] <pudland> nalioth: how do i change my psswrd?
[05:20] <dabaR> pudland: /msg nickserv help
[05:20] <CaBlGuY> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa,  good luck getting it..
[05:20] <adriyel__> w32-codecs doesn't play WMA?
[05:21] <jbroome> pudland: maybe you need a designated IRC'r
[05:21] <CaBlGuY> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa,  I've been tryin to get mplayer now for about an hour..  with no luck..
[05:21] <SystemX> i can install ubuntu and add debian sources and pretty much make it a debian install right?
[05:21] <CaBlGuY> :/
[05:21] <dabaR> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: you need codecs, w32codecs, yes. ask ubotu about it.
[05:21] <adriyel__> ubotu tell ScOrPiO-druid-Wa about restricted formats
[05:21] <adriyel__> done.
[05:21] <adriyel__> have at it
[05:21] <adriyel__> I
[05:21] <nalioth> pudland: /msg nickserv help
[05:21] <adriyel__> am off to collect on that bowl of rice :D
[05:21] <dabaR> CaBlGuY: its really easyy. enable multiverse, and then install mplayer-386 or whatever arch you use
[05:21] <nalioth> SystemX: no you can turn it into a broken door stop
[05:21] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> were do i get Codecs
[05:21] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> ?
[05:22] <nalioth> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: check your priv msgs
[05:22] <dabaR> adriyel__: tell him about w32codecsm rather
[05:22] <ICEMAN-AMD64> Crap working in windows ... excuse the language, how to get wine to find the internet when running Diablo II
[05:22] <SystemX> nalioth: whats wrong with debian? ubuntu is based on it
[05:22] <CaBlGuY> dabaR what is multivers and how do I load it??
[05:22] <dabaR> CaBlGuY: add it its a repo.
[05:23] <CaBlGuY> how do I add it??
[05:23] <regeya_> I know how to turn off the internet
[05:23] <nalioth> SystemX: the binaries are very different, and using debian binaries will kill your ubuntu
[05:23] <adriyel__> ubotu tell ScOrPiO-druid-Wa about w32codecs
[05:23] <dabaR> give it a sec...
[05:23] <SystemX> i thought you could add sources to apt-get. i mean ubuntu is a pretty minimal distro
[05:23] <dabaR> CaBlGuY: the ubotu told you about relevant links.
[05:23] <adriyel__> SystemX, you have no idea what minimal is, LOL
[05:23] <nalioth> SystemX: not binary sources
[05:24] <ICEMAN-AMD64> I launch Diablo II, that works from Wine, in LInux, but the minute i click to go online, it freezes linux completly
[05:24] <SystemX> adjacent: i have a pretty good idea. iv been using linux and other operating systems for years now
[05:24] <josh43> ICEMAN-AMD64, I assume you are not running ubuntu a64?
[05:24] <var> SystemX: the installer cd for ub doesn't even come close to qualifing as minimal.
[05:25] <pudland> nalioth: thhanks
[05:25] <CaBlGuY> dabaR wich tell me nothin cause I dunno what to do with "relivant links"..
[05:25] <frank23> ICEMAN-AMD64: did you take a look at the transgaming wiki. I think there is something about adding localhost to your hosts file
[05:25] <ICEMAN-AMD64> josh43 nope, got tired of fighting 64 bit, and backporting it to run wine, so i installed x86
[05:25] <josh43> SystemX: There are distros that run entirely from a 640k floppy
[05:25] <josh43> ICEMAN-AMD64, Yeah, same here
[05:25] <mmiller> list
[05:26] <pudland> nalioth: quick ques... the backports repos cant be found.. are there new ones?
[05:26] <var> 549k floppy ?
[05:26] <ICEMAN-AMD64> how to tell wine, or linux, to go and find the net ?
[05:26] <nalioth> pudland: not yet, wait a few weeks
[05:26] <var> err 640k ?
[05:26] <Linux_n00b> there
[05:26] <Linux_n00b> NOW does everyone see that I know squat??
[05:26] <pudland> nalioth: kk, so its a known issue.
[05:26] <hosler> How do I get ubuntu to detect my printer?
[05:27] <nalioth> pudland: one needs a developement distro to back port from
[05:27] <SystemX> var: lots of the mac classic distros run off 640
[05:27] <ICEMAN-AMD64> right now i am just putting all my d2 installs in a dos directry, where linux plays fairly nice with them
[05:27] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: a link is a url, like http://dabar.selfip.org . you right click, select open link, and go and read the page that tells you relevant steps for what you are doing.
[05:27] <var> SystemX: ok, see i'm mac illerit  :)
[05:27] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> What do i do with the Codec once i Dl im a neebie i know nothing
[05:28] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: also, there is a mplayer installation page on the wiki, not great, but helpful(from what I hear.)
[05:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ScOrPiO-druid-Wa about cli
[05:28] <SystemX> haha, many other os's are pretty small. qnx and beos, aswell as a bunch of linux distros
[05:28] <frank23> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: what are you trying to install?
[05:28] <pudland> nalioth: so since the Breezy release... Warty would be the development distro?
[05:28] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: tell me you knew what a link is.
[05:28] <jbroome> with a nick like ScOrPiO-druid-Wa i'm very happy for tab complete in my client
[05:28] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> I just wanna Play Back WMA files
[05:28] <SystemX> im just trying to choose which distro i want to go with. and by the looks of it i may as well just go slack. or debian. maybe gentoo..... gah i dont know.
[05:29] <ICEMAN-AMD64> God just getting diablo running and on Battlenet... would be nice ...
[05:29] <nalioth> pudland: dapper drake is starting developement in a few weeks
[05:29] <Linux_n00b> dabaR, I know what a link is, and I know how to read "help files" but what I don't know is what im posed to do with a bunch of URL's that don't tell me nothin..
[05:29] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: you raed the info on them?
[05:29] <ICEMAN-AMD64> back in a bit .. back to linux ...
[05:29] <SystemX> i wish i could ask someone what the best distro is and get a non bias answer. if only it were that easy
[05:29] <sambagirl> who is official programmer for ubuntu? who is leader?
[05:29] <var> SystemX: yes, size of distro was not my question.   640k floppy was.   i've never see a floppy formated to 640k.
[05:29] <pudland> nalioth: thanks
[05:29] <gnuyen> hi guys, i'm trying to follow these directions
[05:29] <gnuyen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74660
[05:30] <SystemX> var remember those huge old floppys
[05:30] <nalioth> sambagirl: wiki.ubuntu.com will answer your questions
[05:30] <var> SystemX: the best distro, is .......
[05:30] <SystemX> var: could have been before your time
[05:30] <dabaR> sambagirl: go read the MarkShuttleworth page on the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[05:30] <sambagirl> okay
[05:30] <var> yes i do.
[05:30] <SystemX> think tandy computer
[05:30] <gnuyen> but i don't understand where to get the diff dsc and other tarballs
[05:30] <frank23> SystemX: there is no one best distro. Every one is using what they think is the best. That's why you always get a biased answer
[05:30] <var> .... the one you like the best.
[05:30] <SystemX> frank23: im aware. i just think it sucks. i hate always having to think for myself
[05:30] <locust> So I decided that instead of dual booting Windows XP and Ubunut, I'd use straight Ubuntu.
[05:30] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> how do i change my shit to KDE ?
[05:31] <SystemX> but i quess i could just install a bunch of distros
[05:31] <pudland> nalioth: I'm running out of needed things for my comp.  besides playing with the dvd burner i just got, I dont know what else to play with.
[05:31] <SystemX> harddrives are cheap as borsh
[05:31] <nalioth> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: please mind your tongue, and install "kubuntu-desktop" with apt-get
[05:31] <locust> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa, download Kubuntu :P
[05:31] <jbroome> and cause less gas
[05:31] <frank23> SystemX: ;-)  Just download a few Iso and try them. Suse, Fedora, Ubuntu
[05:31] <SystemX> ewww id never use fedora
[05:31] <nalioth> pudland: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[05:31] <frank23> SystemX: Try Ubuntu (or Kubuntu) last and you'll stick with it. ;-)
[05:31] <var> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: snaptic install kdebase  and select kde when you login.
[05:31] <locust> What was that wiki site url that told how to fix your screen resolution?
[05:31] <sig> gnome all the way
[05:32] <locust> Gnome > KDE :D
[05:32] <sambagirl> i seen bigger floppy on ibm mini comuters than baby tandy ;)
[05:32] <nalioth> distro comparisons can go to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:32] <SystemX> frank23: iv tryed ubuntu. it was nice for a new linux user but its not my style
[05:32] <Linux_n00b> ok..
[05:32] <Linux_n00b> is this correct?>??
[05:32] <Linux_n00b> sudo apt-get install mplayer-k6
[05:32] <seife> anyone knows wich this font is ? http://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/gimp3.png
[05:32] <Linux_n00b> a simple yes orno will suffise..
[05:32] <sambagirl> systemx how much does cost borsch?
[05:32] <slyjab> <---still has his C-64
[05:32] <sambagirl> sounds dreadful borsch
[05:33] <pudland> nalioth: i have everything listed in http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[05:33] <SystemX> locust fluxbox > then any other desktop
[05:33] <sambagirl> wow i have my brothers c64
[05:33] <nalioth> Linux_n00b: looks good
[05:33] <Linux_n00b> Great..
[05:33] <nalioth> pudland: that is not good
[05:33] <sambagirl> has tape drive too
[05:33] <kevogod> !ubuntuguide
[05:33] <pudland> nalioth: why????
[05:33] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[05:33] <nalioth> !tell pudland about ubuntuguide
[05:33] <slyjab> tape drive is long dead
[05:33] <sambagirl> and 300bps modem too!
[05:33] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: did you enable multiverse?
[05:33] <Hentai^sparc> ok thanks ll pretty straight forward on that
[05:33] <nalioth> !tell pudland about sources
[05:33] <sambagirl> i have his tandy 100 too!
[05:33] <Linux_n00b> nalioth, ok, it's saying this---> Couldn't find package mplayer-k6
[05:33] <nalioth> pudland: you should have the sources ubotu just sent you links to
[05:34] <Linux_n00b> how do I enable multivers??
[05:34] <nalioth> Linux_n00b: dabaR asked you a question
[05:34] <slyjab> read something about getting c-64 retro games for linux
[05:34] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: read the pages shown there.
[05:34] <sambagirl> cool
[05:34] <pudland> nalioth: kk, thanks.  thats not justt for breezy?
[05:34] <dabaR> did you get messages from ubotu, Linux_n00b ?
[05:34] <nalioth> pudland: ubuntuguide has been breaking computers since warty warthog
[05:35] <dabaR> along with backports:)
[05:35] <pudland> nalioth: ooyyy, ive been using it and everything worked.  Ive got everything from it.
[05:35] <nalioth> dabaR: backports are official for breezy
[05:35] <dabaR> so what? they sucked in hoary...
[05:35] <nalioth> pudland: then hope your machine isnt compromised too badly
[05:35] <pudland> nalioth: i'll change the repos now
[05:35] <dabaR> I hope they start teaching people how to use them, that will make a change...
[05:36] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto shows how, if you did not get it yet.
[05:36] <nalioth> dabaR: breezy backports are going to be safe to use (they are part of the ubuntu community now)
[05:36] <dabaR> meh:-/
[05:36] <dabaR> Left to be seen.
[05:36] <thesilentkiller> is there a good disk manager which will show me the disk usage in fancy graphics, like a pie chart....which i can zoom in to see how much space each folder takes...i vaguely remember some tool that can do this
[05:36] <dabaR> nalioth: good luck to them.
[05:36] <nalioth> thesilentkiller: xdiskusage
[05:37] <thesilentkiller> nalioth: okie. thanks.
[05:37] <johnny> thesilentkiller, i know filelight can.. but it's qt
[05:37] <johnny> there must be one for gtk as well
[05:37] <kjdis> May I paste in about 10 lines of video info from boot? I am trying to figure out where I messed up my kernel, system boots and it's up, but video goes black
[05:37] <johnny> not here..
[05:37] <nalioth> thesilentkiller: if you use xdiskusage, you can click around in it
[05:37] <thesilentkiller> johnny: hmmm, k. i will give xdiskusage a shot
[05:37] <iceman> what app to use with shoutcast, streamlink or something like that ... what was it
[05:37] <dabaR> they licensed qt with gpl at some point.
[05:37] <nalioth> !tell kjdis about paste
[05:37] <johnny> they already did
[05:38] <johnny> even for win32
[05:38] <nalioth> kjdis: please use a pastebin
[05:38] <johnny> iceman, streamripper?
[05:38] <dabaR> that's what I said, no? I said they licensed it at some point..
[05:38] <thesilentkiller> nalioth: i am looking at screeshots of xdiskusage. seems like it will do what i want . thanks
[05:38] <johnny> oh.. oops..
[05:38] <iceman> streamripper ? close ... that available with apt-get ?
[05:38] <johnny> but the win32 licensing was only added recently..
[05:38] <johnny> ie: in the past year
[05:38] <johnny> no idea.. i don't really use ubuntu
[05:38] <pudland> nalioth: im updating now
[05:38] <kjdis> http://pastebin.ca/26568
[05:38] <dabaR> ah
[05:39] <pudland> ubotu: thanks for the quick info
[05:39] <ubotu> de nada, pudland
[05:39] <kjdis> if anyone cares to look, although that info has no errors or anything, but someone might see an issue with it switching modes , perhaps
[05:39] <johnny> i haven't used debian based stuff since early woody
[05:39] <johnny> i switched to gentoo about 3 years ago
[05:39] <var> johnny: what are you doing here?  that's my line......
[05:39] <slyjab> sambagirl: checkout www.c64.com
[05:39] <johnny> i setup ubuntu for friends and clients
[05:39] <johnny> thus i'm relearning all my debianisms
[05:40] <dabaR> hah
[05:40] <johnny> hopefully minus the elitism..
[05:40] <iceman> ok now pointing to the app, where does ubuntu put them
[05:40] <dabaR> hah
[05:40] <var> one can only hope....
[05:40] <pudland> nalioth: thanks again
[05:40] <kenneth> i can't get rhthymbox to stream audio files
[05:40] <dabaR> put who, iceman ?
[05:40] <starscalling> ok
[05:41] <sambagirl> oks,lyjab
[05:41] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> if im on Ubuntu do i want .deb files?
[05:41] <sambagirl> but i am big amiga fan
[05:41] <nalioth> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: use synaptic to install your programs
[05:41] <sambagirl> i love amigas :D
[05:41] <dabaR> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: you want debs from the repos, yes, and very rarely debs you download
[05:41] <locust> It's so nice how easy it is to update ubuntu.
[05:41] <iceman> dabaR where are apps put like xmms and the like .. to point shoutcast to the app
[05:41] <starscalling> i THINK i have this closer to down on the dual monitor under nvidia dualhead setup.. but how can i tell what horizsynch and vertrefresh to set for my monitors?
[05:42] <dabaR> iceman: the executables in /usr/bin usually
[05:42] <iceman> ty
[05:42] <dabaR> $20
[05:42] <var> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: yes but you want .deb files made for your flavor of ub
[05:42] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> well im Dl a codec that .deb
[05:42] <jessid> hello!
[05:42] <dabaR> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: the w32codecs?
[05:42] <Linux_n00b> ok, I got universal installed..
[05:42] <kenneth> when i try to stream audio files with rhythmbox, it says unexpected end of stream.
[05:42] <nalioth> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: then d/l it to your home directory or desktop
[05:42] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: ok, universe, and now add multiverse.
[05:42] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> yeah
[05:43] <Linux_n00b> in synaptic?
[05:43] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: read this to get background info... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view , and yes, synaptic.
[05:43] <jessid> A little question: is it posible to start session connecting through Internet in another machine?
[05:43] <dabaR> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: yes, that .deb is fine to download from somewhere else than repos, since it is just files, um...you will need to know sudo dpkg -i w32codecs.deb to install it...
[05:43] <nalioth> jessid: yes it is
[05:44] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> where do i put this :S sudo dpkg -i w32codecs.deb
[05:44] <nalioth> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: in a terminal. read the cli info ubotu sent you
[05:44] <var> mmmm cli
[05:45] <dabaR> nalioth: the question by jessid is an example of how you should be more specific. Yes, it is possible, provided some conditions...
[05:46] <adriyel__> cli pwnzor
[05:46] <nalioth> jessid: yes it is possible if the machine you want to log into has a ssh server running and you have an account on it
[05:46] <adriyel__> that makes me want to switch into a tty now
[05:46] <adriyel__> darn yu
[05:46] <iceman> How to get wine to find the internet when i launch Diablo II
[05:47] <dabaR> nalioth: also, the one from which he is logging in has to have an x-server, right, and his ssh-server on host machine has to have xforwarding enabled...
[05:47] <iceman> i can run Diablo II, but i click to go online and Diablo Freeze's
[05:47] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> Ok the Codec or the .deb ius on my Desktop what i typr in terminal to install it ?
[05:47] <Linux_n00b> dabaR ok, I read it, now what..
[05:48] <johnny> dpkg -i <deb>
[05:48] <johnny> err sudo dpkg -i <deb>
[05:48] <nalioth> dabaR: jessid did not mention what type of session
[05:48] <sambagirl> cli yes
[05:49] <dabaR> nalioth: I thought he meant a gnome-session] 
[05:49] <var> hmmm unspecified session = x-session ?
[05:49] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: added multiverse?
[05:49] <dabaR> I would think so
[05:49] <var> could be chat session
[05:50] <dabaR> thats wh jessid should be more specific.
[05:50] <adriyel__> ctrl-alt-F2....
[05:50] <var> nalioth: we do not excuse those we are forced to solute
[05:51] <var> then why the [ctrl]  ??????
[05:51] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> dpkg: error processing w32codecs_*.deb (--install):
[05:51] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[05:51] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:51] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa>  w32codecs_*.deb
[05:51] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> druid@ubuntu:~$
[05:51] <adriyel__> var, try hitting ctrl-alt-F2
[05:52] <dabaR> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: you downloaded it into another folder...
[05:52] <Linux_n00b> dabaR I dind't see anything about multiverse..
[05:52] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> Desktop
[05:52] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> ....
[05:52] <nalioth> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: please dont paste in here
[05:52] <iceman> ok, stupid question, in gnome there is a mac style menu bar, what is it, where to get it
[05:52] <var> why would i want to add the [ctrl]  key.   in console the third key is not needed  ;p
[05:52] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> lol
[05:52] <nalioth> iceman: you mean gdesklets?
[05:52] <adriyel__> var, you're in console eh?
[05:53] <adriyel__> what irc client do you use?
[05:53] <jessid> nalioth text based...in a console
[05:53] <dabaR> iceman: dock-style app?
[05:53] <iceman> nalioth be my guess, can you apt get it ..  ?
[05:53] <nalioth> jessid: yes, see my original answer
[05:53] <var> xchat-text   BitchX somethimes though
[05:53] <nalioth> iceman: yes you can, make sure you have universe and multiverse enabled
[05:54] <iceman> nalioth thanks ...
[05:54] <var> adriyel__: i guess you also think i'm root      hehhe.
[05:55] <dabaR> iceman: install openssh-server package on the machine you want to log into. look into dyndns.org free domain names, and ez-ipupdate package, to get a domain(instead of connecting through IP addresses.)_ and then ssh username@hostname from the computer you are logging in from.
[05:55] <dabaR> jessid: the iceman message above is for you.
[05:55] <dabaR> iceman: sorry.
[05:55] <jessid> nalioth so the command is ssh?
[05:55] <josh43> Any way I can mount my ntfs drives so I can read them as a regular user? (I can read them as root right now)
[05:55] <dabaR> josh43: have you read the ntfs factoid from ubuntu?
[05:56] <adriyel> heheh
[05:56] <dooglus> jessid: ssh user@host.com
[05:56] <adriyel> xchat-text eh? :)
[05:56] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> debR so the files on my Desktop what do i type in Terminal to install it m8
[05:56] <var> josh43: umask=0
[05:56] <josh43> dabaR, I tried the wiki, and I just found a placeholder
[05:56] <abarbaccia> hey all - i need some help with fans on MB headers and ubuntu - i want to reduce the voltage to a fan because its SO FREAKIN LOUD
[05:56] <dabaR> josh43: read what ubotu sent you, its pretty handy
[05:57] <adriyel> wow, I need framebuffer for this. I am going to die
[05:57] <josh43> var; instead of default?
[05:57] <iceman> nalioth ok, now got gdesklets, now where to get plugin's
[05:57] <adriyel> sourceforge.net @ nalioth?
[05:57] <var> josh43: with default    default,umask=0
[05:58] <nalioth> iceman: visit the gdesklets homepage
[05:58] <josh43> var=Perfect, thanks
[05:58] <var> :)
[05:59] <dabaR> ok, sorry
[05:59] <nalioth> dabaR: ot
[05:59] <dabaR> dunno why I had that ida
[06:00] <dabaR> idea
[06:00] <adriyel__> dabar, wth?
[06:00] <nalioth> adriyel__: OT along with dabaR
[06:01] <ams_> how do i check my ip address?
[06:02] <dabaR> ams_: ifconfig in a terminal works
[06:02] <chet_awesomelase> ifconfig should do it
[06:02] <adriyel__> nalioth, was that a rebuke? :(
[06:02] <var>  /whois ams_
[06:02] <josh43> dabaR, Thanks for the heads up on that - var found what I was missing, but that cleared up a couple other isses, thanks
[06:02] <nalioth> adriyel__: please stay somewhat on topic
[06:03] <ams_> thanks dabar and var
[06:03] <adriyel__> nalioth, duly noted.
[06:03] <dabaR> josh43: very useful script when setting up someone else's computer, personally, I dont mount ntfs, and I mount everything manually, cause I dont boot that often...
[06:03] <adriyel> var
[06:03] <adriyel> var, why does xchat-text have random numbers in the output?
[06:03] <Zealot87> how do I get a microphone to work
[06:03] <Zealot87> and can someone send me the winmac fstab script please?
[06:03] <var> adriyel: mine doesn't
[06:04] <dabaR> Zealot87: ask the bot
[06:04] <Zealot87> how do i ask a bot
[06:04] <var> err i guess i should tell you adriyel i'm not on ubuntu
[06:04] <adriyel__> ubotu tell Zealot87 about microphones
[06:04] <qiHEWSfi> !tell nick topic i think
[06:04] <Linux_n00b> dabaR ok, I did all it said on that page..  as far as I can tell anyway..
[06:04] <adriyel__> bugger.
[06:04] <Linux_n00b> and Im still not finding mplayer..
[06:04] <adriyel__> ubotu tell Zealot87 about sound
[06:04] <dabaR> Zealot87: he told you. ubotu is his name, and he sent you a pm.
[06:05] <Zealot87> hahaha, i typed "microphones" and he said, "are you on ritalin"
[06:05] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: that is strange. I bet you did not enable multiverse. Wanna learn how to edit repos list in a terminal?
[06:05] <adriyel__> I think ubotu is cute...am I strange?
[06:05] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> ok so I installed the Codec .....will i be able to listen to Mp3s ????
[06:05] <Zealot87> my drive is a VFAT drive though
[06:05] <pudland> nalioth: stupid question.. how do you upgrade to breezy?
[06:05] <Hobbsee> !tell pudland about upgrade2breezy
[06:05] <Linux_n00b> dabaR yes, please, I use term much better than readin a bunch of crap that I don't understand..
[06:05] <Linux_n00b> ;o)
[06:06] <adriyel__> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:06] <Linux_n00b> super user mode?
[06:06] <dabaR> Zealot87: I am not sure whether that is what winmac_fstab script mounts, but you can try.
[06:06] <adriyel__> @ pudland
[06:06] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: open the terminal, and sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:06] <Linux_n00b> super user mode?
[06:06] <qiHEWSfi> btw, i am building an OS set on my ultra azo's ... currently planning on mandriva, ubuntu, kubuntu and openbsd. i have a couple of bootable system tools also. does this sound good?
[06:06] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: then paste it to http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:06] <sig> no
[06:06] <Linux_n00b> dabaR super user mode??
[06:06] <Linux_n00b> or regular??
[06:07] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is a superuser prepended command, just use the commands I tell you...
[06:07] <Linux_n00b> d00d..  do I need root or not??
[06:07] <dabaR> no, sudo works like root.
[06:07] <nalioth> dabaR: winmac_fstab mounts ntfs (RO), vfat (RW) and hfsplus(RW)
[06:08] <qiHEWSfi> should i consider gentoo over openbsd?
[06:08] <Linux_n00b> see that wasn;t so hard now awas it../
[06:08] <var> dabaR: you should quote commands that you want people to copy and paste to terminals.....
[06:08] <jessid> thanks to all of you! This is why I love ubuntu, jejje
[06:08] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> I Dl the Codec to the Home Dir now I still cant get Audio to come over the speekers ........
[06:08] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: took much longer than I wanted:P
[06:08] <nalioth> qiHEWSfi: ask that question in #freenode, please
[06:08] <jessid> chao y gracias again!
[06:08] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: Im getting carpal tunnel cause ppl dont follow exact instructions.
[06:08] <qiHEWSfi> ok
[06:08] <pudland> adriyel_:  whats that?
[06:09] <Zealot87> the sound problem page doesnt say anything about microphones
[06:09] <dabaR> var: like, type in "sudo aptitude install dabaR" ?
[06:09] <var> dabaR: yes
[06:09] <dabaR> var: thanks, Ill try.
[06:09] <Linux_n00b> dabaR well maybe if you were more direct with your answeres, you wouldn't..
[06:09] <Linux_n00b> :p
[06:10] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: no, my job is stupid, I would anyhow.
[06:10] <Linux_n00b> ok, so what am I doing with this huge list of stuff that popped up??
[06:10] <dabaR> And I type in a bad style, and I have bad posture...so...
[06:10] <Linux_n00b> im pasting that in somewhere??
[06:10] <dabaR> it should be the geditor, with a file. You are posting it to pastebin.
[06:10] <dabaR> scroll up for the URL.
[06:11] <Linux_n00b> what should be the geditor..  and I posting what where??
[06:11] <Linux_n00b> I thuink I see the URL..
[06:11] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> man I still can play audio im a winer
[06:11] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> cant
[06:12] <Linux_n00b> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa, welcome to the club bro..
[06:12] <Linux_n00b> :o/
[06:12] <Zealot87> soo
[06:12] <Zealot87> anyone know what to do with microphones hah
[06:12] <Zealot87> the sound debugging thing did nothing
[06:12] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: well, I have finite patience, too...
[06:12] <[Spooky] > ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: what are you trying to do ?
[06:13] <kjdis> Is there no grub.conf on Kubuntu using kernel pkgs?
[06:13] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: :) open a terminal, a normal one, that is why i did not say a root terminal, and type in "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and then the editor window opens, so paste the contents of that file it opens to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:14] <Linux_n00b> ok, how do I get it to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl  ??
[06:14] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> man i cant even play an Mpg says i need a plug in fook
[06:14] <dabaR> copy and paste
[06:14] <Linux_n00b> copy and paste where??
[06:14] <nalioth> Linux_n00b: once you copy it, you can paste it at the pastebin
[06:14] <sid> Ubuntu update manager has problem, it does not open
[06:14] <var> just an observation,  if dabaR and Linux_n00b would both /join #flood_3   and then Linux_n00b would type /exec -o cat /etc/apt/apt.conf      or what ever the name of that file is it would paste the file dirrectly to dabaR in an environment that would allow interaction.....      that is just a thought....
[06:14] <Linux_n00b> do I paste the list into the termainal??
[06:14] <dabaR> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: what program are yo using?
[06:14] <nalioth> Linux_n00b: open your browser to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:15] <nalioth> Linux_n00b: and you'll see where to paste it
[06:15] <dabaR> var: I was thinking the same thing, can you go help him, please?
[06:15] <melvztechie> Linux_noob: open the site with a browser -> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:15] <Linux_n00b> ok.. I see..
[06:15] <var> can't steel you thounder dabaR.....
[06:15] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: a big thing about linux is trying something before asking for help.
[06:16] <nalioth> Linux_n00b: "linux is for tinkerers"
[06:16] <Linux_n00b> ok, so I pasted it and now I hit send??
[06:16] <[Spooky] > ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: in what player ?
[06:16] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: try it...
[06:16] <wtf> nalioth: not true
[06:16] <dabaR> ot
[06:17] <sid> apt, and synaptic are not working, can someone tellme what would be the problem
[06:17] <dabaR> sid: you tell us.
[06:17] <Hobbsee> sid: any error messages?
[06:17] <dabaR> sid: what is not working...
[06:17] <Linux_n00b> ok I thik it's here--->   http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3585
[06:17] <sid> I type sudo apt-get update...... no response after I give the pw
[06:17] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: good
[06:18] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: see the word multiverse anywhere there?
[06:18] <Linux_n00b> nope..
[06:18] <dabaR> ok, you did not add it.
[06:18] <nalioth> Linux_n00b: put a # in front of the bottom line, please
[06:18] <sid> When I try to open synaptic, its not opening too
[06:19] <dabaR> add to that file multiverse on all lins that say universe. put multiverse on the end of the lines.
[06:19] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: and heed nalioth's advice, too
[06:19] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> ok heres a Good Question How do i map a network drive?
[06:19] <Linux_n00b> this--->  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3586   ??
[06:19] <D1> whoo hoo! got turboprint to work.
[06:19] <D1> now my setup is complete!
[06:19] <Linux_n00b> congrats D1
[06:19] <dabaR> sid: full hard disk?
[06:19] <Linux_n00b> :)
[06:20] <D1> thanks. =] 
[06:20] <dabaR> talk2me: nice nick
[06:20] <D1> I dont know why i keep windows around anymore, I never use it.
[06:20] <D1> I just fear I'll get something from school requiring it.
[06:20] <talk2me> hey dabaR
[06:20] <dabaR> me neither, but always good to have a backup.
[06:20] <DShepher1> d1: :-D
[06:20] <Linux_n00b> D1 im workin my way over..
[06:20] <D1> yeah.
[06:20] <var> sid you didn't rm sudo did you ?
[06:20] <Linux_n00b> :)
[06:20] <nalioth> Linux_n00b: everywhere you see "universe" make it say "universe multiverse"
[06:20] <talk2me> need help
[06:20] <talk2me> tryinhg to install PEAR
[06:21] <D1> the only thing I miss is a good full featured ftp client.
[06:21] <D1> but filezilla will be ported to linux soon
[06:21] <Linux_n00b> nalioth, ok then what??
[06:21] <D1> and thats gonna rock
[06:21] <talk2me> can anyone help me installing pear?
[06:21] <nalioth> Linux_n00b: save it, and sudo apt-get update
[06:21] <DShepher1> D1.. I miss the nice games ;(
[06:21] <DShepher1> :(
[06:21] <dabaR> nalioth: aptitude:)
[06:21] <sid> I did not do "rm sudo"
[06:21] <D1> luckly, I don't play many games.
[06:21] <dabaR> sid: that would not do anything
[06:21] <D1> but on the rare occassion I have windows around I suppose.
[06:21] <Linux_n00b> OH!!  u mean in the gedit form.. yes??
[06:22] <dabaR> talk2me: change your nick, its weird. do you go to "chat" channels with that?
[06:22] <sid> I am checking if my HD is full
[06:22] <dabaR> df -h
[06:22] <var> sid "which sudo"    if sudo is not there it will give the odd results you have described.
[06:22] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> my fucking questions are donr being answerd in here i guess
[06:22] <dabaR> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: you did not answer ours.
[06:22] <Linux_n00b> nalioth, OH!!  u mean in the gedit form.. yes??
[06:22] <sid> how can I add sudo
[06:23] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: ya, there, not on the web page:)
[06:23] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> im buys trying to do what u say
[06:23] <test> hello
[06:23] <dabaR> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: what app are you running it in, was the question
[06:23] <nalioth> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa: your tongue needs controlling. cursing doesnt help things
[06:23] <Linux_n00b> and I need to add ## on the very last line.??
[06:23] <dabaR> iam2cool: haha, thats better.
[06:23] <iam2cool> haha
[06:23] <dabaR> ok, so, pear, for php? there is no package...
[06:23] <DShepher1> ok..I know this is off /topic but... has anyone really used Base in openoffice.org?
[06:23] <dmlinux> sc0rpi0-druid-wa heres an idea, dont have a dumbass name that people have trouble typing
[06:23] <sid> which sudo = "/usr/bin/sudo
[06:23] <sid> "
[06:23] <var> sid does "which sudo" say 'no file found' or something like that ?      (sounds like a path error maybe)
[06:23] <dabaR> sid, see its there.
[06:23] <josh43> ANyone have experience with ubuntu and wayv?
[06:23] <var> k
[06:24] <dabaR> sid, what about the hard drive?
[06:24] <Madpilot> DShepher1: there's a #openoffice.org channel
[06:24] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> im trying to get a simple Mp3 Audio file to ply in XMMS or any application that will just play the simple file
[06:24] <sid> I can't check that also
[06:24] <var> disreguard the former ^
[06:24] <iam2cool> dabaR .. installed xampp so it came with pear..
[06:24] <DShepher1> Madpilot:  I know...i often go there...no one talks in there though...nothing
[06:24] <sid> System-> Administration-> Disks ---- thats not working too
[06:24] <ecobuntu> does anyone use Xubuntu in here?
[06:24] <sid> how can I check free space in HD
[06:24] <josh__> hi
[06:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ScOrPiO-druid-Wa about mp3
[06:25] <ecobuntu> and if you do do you know how to make XFCE4 automatically locate your flashdrive?
[06:25] <var> sid "ls -l /usr/bin/sudo "  is it executable ?
[06:25] <adriyel__> ecobuntu, creative.
[06:25] <ecobuntu> creative?
[06:25] <ecobuntu> oh my nick?
[06:25] <ecobuntu> i see
[06:25] <ecobuntu> i'm an ecologist
[06:25] <josh__> ok look i just installed ubuntu but im stuck on a low resolution. is there a way to fix this?
 how can I check free space in HD <--- "df -h "
[06:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell josh__ about fixres
[06:26] <dabaR> josh__: ask the bot about resolution
[06:26] <josh__> THANKS!!!
[06:26] <Linux_n00b> ok, I think I got it..  like this??  ----->   http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3587
[06:26] <chickFlick> how can I test that I have installed PEAR
[06:26] <sid> -rwsr-xr-x  1 root root 93076 2005-09-30 16:11 /usr/bin/sudo
[06:26] <josh43> josh__, You may want to look at the binarydriverhowto as well to bump up your graphics a bit and fix the res all in one go
[06:26] <dabaR> chickFlick: wth? did you install it or not?
[06:26] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> what do those links have to do with playing an Mp3 File ?
[06:26] <sid> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[06:26] <sid> /dev/hda5             7.2G  2.5G  4.4G  37% /
[06:26] <sid> tmpfs                 502M     0  502M   0% /dev/shm
[06:26] <sid> tmpfs                 502M   13M  490M   3% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/volatile
[06:27] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> i dont wanna Decode the file
[06:27] <josh43> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa, Yes you do
[06:27] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> i do
[06:27] <chickFlick> dabaR: i installed xamp
[06:27] <dabaR> chickFlick: did you install php4-pear?
[06:27] <josh43> ScOrPiO-druid-Wa, You need to decode to play
[06:27] <sector10a> how do i turn off glx?
[06:27] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> ahh
[06:27] <dabaR> chickFlick: do you know what to do with it at all?
[06:27] <Linux_n00b> dabaR is that correct??   -->  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3587
[06:28] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> kk
[06:28] <chickFlick> dabaR: xampp comes with it... yes i kinda know how to use it.. but how to install it?
[06:28] <Linux_n00b> except for the ##  at the last line..
[06:28] <chickFlick> dabaR: or how to check if it is installed?
[06:28] <var> hmmm sid you say synaptic wont open and apt-get hangs, or errors out; which one?
[06:29] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3 <------I did that .....:)
[06:29] <sector10a> why isnt lbstdc installed by default?
[06:29] <omoore> i'm running ubuntu live cd on my laptop next to me... it's connected via land line (nic).. i want to install 'make' .. can someone advise please
[06:30] <Linux_n00b> :op
[06:30] <omoore> not sure how (under ubuntu) to find/install packages that contain a particular program
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> not sure the live cd can install stuff.
[06:30] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> ok i did the Decoder thing
[06:30] <sid> no error messages when I do apt-get update, there is just no response
[06:30] <sector10a> omoore: like what?
[06:30] <omoore> make
[06:30] <omoore> the live cd version doesn't have it installed
[06:31] <sector10a> omoore: use synaptic
[06:31] <omoore> if ound the package for gcc
[06:31] <omoore> but, not make
[06:31] <omoore> k
[06:31] <omoore> i'll man synaptic
[06:31] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: put a # on the beginning of the last line, save the file in the gedit window, close the window with the little x in the top right, and then "alias u='sudo aptitude update'" <enter> then "u"  <enter> type in your password, and then se it update, and then "alias i='sudo aptitude install'" <enter> i mplayer-(_insert_ _your_ _architecture_ _here_) <enter> and then you have it installed.
[06:31] <dabaR> !+find mplayer
[06:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'mplayer' (11 shown): mozilla-mplayer ;; mplayer-386 ;; mplayer-586 ;; mplayer-686 ;; mplayer-custom ;; mplayer-doc ;; mplayer-fonts ;; mplayer-k6 ;; mplayer-k7 ;; mplayer-nogui ;; xmms-xmmplayer.
[06:32] <var> omoore: also 'build-essentials' or some such has to be installed.
[06:32] <sector10a> omoore: its there
[06:32] <sector10a> scroll down to m
[06:32] <omoore> i assume when i install the package for make, it'll include dependent packages
[06:32] <omoore> sector10a, k
[06:32] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> ok So i did this sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3 in terminal now What ?
[06:32] <sector10a> omoore: of course
[06:33] <dabaR> Linux_n00b: there should be a "" around the "i mplayer-()" <enter> above.
[06:33] <sector10a> omoore: if thats all you want
[06:33] <omoore> sector10a, i was using the gui package manager
[06:33] <sector10a> omoore: oh
[06:34] <omoore> and searched for make there.. it didn't show a package.. wasn't sure what ubuntu used for pakcage management.. thx.. waiting for it to finish booting now...
[06:34] <omoore> i'm sure i'll easily find it with synaptic
[06:34] <sector10a> omoore: my notebook is know running well
[06:34] <dabaR> chickFlick: well, whatever, to see whether it is installed, the easiest thing would be to search for it, "aptitude search php4-pear php-pear" and see whether there is an i on the left of it.
[06:34] <P8ntKid> Can anybody post there fluxbox menu file in #flood please?
[06:34] <Sourceror> Does anyone know how to keep the obnoxious mplayer plugin for Mozilla from stealing my MP3 files?  It's buggy as hell and I'm already running XMMS, and plus I can only have one program use sound at a time.
[06:34] <sector10a> omoore: click search
[06:34] <ScOrPiO-druid-Wa> hh
[06:34] <Sourceror> Every day I feel more and more like my computer's bitch...
[06:35] <sid> can I install KDE in Ubuntu ?
[06:35] <omoore> sector10a, lol.. in the gui app? i did.. maybe the live cd just doesn't have a full package list
[06:35] <sector10a> omoore: type make, if it does not find it, then page down
[06:35] <josh43> Sourceror, Welcome to the new era of computing
[06:35] <r0d> sid yea
[06:35] <nalioth> P8ntKid: visit fluxbox.sourceforge.net, they have a nice sample menu there
[06:35] <sector10a> omoore: live huh!
[06:35] <sid> just by using apt-get ?
[06:35] <dabaR> Sourceror: just remove stupid programs like that.
[06:35] <FOOKIT> ther i fixes my name AKA DRUID WALKER
[06:35] <sector10a> omoore:  do apt-get i
[06:35] <r0d> in synaptic look for kubuntu-desktop
[06:36] <P8ntKid> nalioth, Where is the nice "sample" menu?
[06:36] <nalioth> P8ntKid: in the faq
[06:36] <sid> many thanks
[06:36] <sector10a> omoore:  do.  sudo apt-get install make
[06:36] <dabaR> P8ntKid: tried openbox?
[06:36] <Sourceror> Father, I think I convinced some poor soul to install Ubuntu today...
[06:37] <sector10a> omoore:  i dont use ubuntu live
[06:37] <tarheelcoxn> anybody having trouble getting to multiverse?
[06:37] <tarheelcoxn> I'm getting 404s
[06:37] <sector10a> last time way to slow
[06:37] <FOOKIT> hey I did what the page said on Mp3 Decodeing and now im lost
[06:37] <var> omoore: if you know your way around a console "man apt-cache "  really handy for searching for packages.
[06:37] <tarheelcoxn> sector10a: if you have 512 MB or RAM or more, you should try loading to RAM
[06:37] <tarheelcoxn> it'll be MUCH faster
[06:38] <nalioth> P8ntKid: here is a nice howto http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fluxbox
[06:38] <P8ntKid> dabaR, No
[06:38] <omoore> sector10a, ahh. .just saw the gui synaptic package mangaer i was using "Add Application"
[06:38] <dabaR> tarheelcoxn: thats cause you have us. in front of some rows, or the repos are down for a while at the worst.
[06:38] <sector10a> is there another way to tweak graphic settings other than xorg.conf?
[06:38] <P8ntKid> nalioth, I know how to make a menu. I just want it to look cool. Like this one. http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/zoom.php?shots-dev/majes_fluxbox.jpg
[06:38] <omoore> sector10a, ahhh.. much better
[06:38] <sector10a> omoore:  lol
[06:38] <dabaR> P8ntKid: you should, I roll up all my windows in that program, it is very sweet.
[06:38] <dabaR> sleek
[06:38] <omoore> var, yes.. i do.. thx.. didn't know ubuntu was apt based.. cool
[06:38] <nalioth> P8ntKid: then having us randomly send you menus isnt gonna do it
[06:39] <dabaR> later
[06:39] <sector10a> omoore: yep
[06:39] <sector10a> omoore: !apt
[06:39] <omoore> this synaptic app is cool
[06:39] <sector10a> !apt
[06:39] <ubotu> well, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[06:39] <omoore> beats the pants off of rhm
[06:39] <P8ntKid> dabaR, Whats better about openbox then fluxbox?
[06:39] <omoore> (red hat manager gui app thingy)
[06:39] <P8ntKid> nalioth, Then how do i make it look cool
[06:39] <sector10a> type ! plus key word
[06:40] <var> well it has dpkg as the package manager omoore, and apt as a front end to that.
[06:40] <dabaR> P8ntKid: try it, it is at most 5 seconds to start.
[06:40] <omoore> var .. ahh
[06:40] <nalioth> P8ntKid: you
[06:40] <dabaR> P8ntKid: universe.
[06:40] <sector10a> but you can use the bot yourself
[06:40] <nalioth> 'll have to learn how using the fluxbox howtos
[06:41] <omoore> just from what i see off the live cdrom so far.. i'm planning on installing ubutnu.. very clean efficient distro so far
[06:41] <sector10a> omoore: type "!vim"
[06:41] <dabaR> sector10a: read messages from ubotu
[06:41] <FOOKIT> im installing K3b is that relivent to playing Mp3s?
[06:41] <omoore> searcher`, omore loves vi, it's even his command line interpretror (ie.. set -o vi)
[06:41] <tarheelcoxn> dabaR: I tried without us.
[06:41] <dabaR> FOOKIT: its a burning program.
[06:41] <tarheelcoxn> different error
[06:41] <tarheelcoxn> still can't get anything
[06:41] <omoore> searcher`, sorry.. that was for sector10a
[06:41] <n0odl3> how do i listen to internet radio broadcasts?
[06:41] <var> hehhe i get a vim not installed error   :)
[06:41] <dabaR> FOOKIT: you can ask the bot what a package does.
[06:42] <sector10a> those are good messages
[06:42] <FOOKIT> ok i did the Decodeing Mp3 thing now what do i need to do >
[06:42] <FOOKIT> ?
[06:42] <tarheelcoxn> "Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com'"
[06:42] <P8ntKid> dabaR,  I have used it before. I dont really like it.
[06:42] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to listen to radio broadcasts?
[06:42] <dabaR> haha, thats prolly illegal
[06:42] <dabaR> P8ntKid: ok
[06:42] <sector10a> anyway for anybody who is interested
[06:43] <n0odl3> does anyone know?
[06:43] <sector10a> i solved the graphic problem with my nvidia
[06:43] <chickFlick> dabaR: aptitude search php4-pear php-pear
[06:43] <chickFlick> p   php4-pear                                             - PEAR - PHP Extension and Application Repository
[06:43] <chickFlick> p   php4-pear-log                                         - Log module for PEAR
[06:43] <dabaR> chickFlick: ask the bot about paste
[06:43] <Agamotto> Noodl3:  sudo apt-get install streamtuner
[06:43] <nalioth> chickFlick: please do not paste in here
[06:43] <Linux_n00b> my brain hurts..
[06:43] <Linux_n00b> bbl
[06:43] <sector10a> just remove some options from xorg.conf
[06:43] <bur[n] er> n0odl3: i go to shoutcast.com and just pick a station
[06:43] <dabaR> i hope that guy installed it...:D
[06:44] <sector10a> glx is not working right so just remove it
[06:44] <bur[n] er> n0odl3: you might want to check out "streamtuner" though
[06:44] <sector10a> i can add it later always
[06:44] <nalioth> n0odl3: vlc also plays streaming media
[06:44] <dabaR> chickFlick: the p means you did not install it, so isntall the php4-pear, "sudo aptitude install php4-pear"<enter>
[06:45] <metrix> I am looking for a "calendar sharing" program.. can anyone lead me in the right direction?
[06:45] <Agamotto> metrix:  Hmmm, Evolution?
[06:46] <sector10a> there is one good web based one
[06:46] <dooglus> is it possible to run a dapper 'gdm' at the same time as breezy's gdm is running?
[06:46] <metrix> agamotto: i've tried evolution, but I can't seem to find documentation on how to point it to a webserver calendar (or even how to set one up!)
[06:46] <dmlinux> anyone know if Battelfield2 works with wine :P hehe
[06:46] <metrix> I think that may be my problem. just how to create a multi-user calander
[06:46] <var> calendar ?????    cal & at    :)
[06:46] <Agamotto> metrix:  I can understand that, unfortunately, it isn't something I have ever needed myself
[06:46] <nalioth> dooglus: theoretically, but i imagine you'd end up with a broken box
[06:47] <sector10a> metrix: for home or server
[06:47] <chickFlick> dabaR : thanks.. now its installed...
[06:47] <var> metrix: you didn't mean from scratch tho.....
[06:47] <chickFlick> dabar: i am suppossed run somethign for the pear configuration right?
[06:47] <dooglus> nalioth: the problem at the moment is that the dapper chroot doesn't see my mouse in /dev/input/mice
[06:47] <metrix> sector10a: I would like it on a server. so it could be shared
[06:47] <metrix> var: no not from scratch
[06:47] <sector10a> im using one
[06:48] <sector10a> for a few people
[06:48] <nalioth> dooglus: dapper just started today, iirc, give it some time
[06:48] <dooglus> nalioth: does that mean I need to run udev?  or mount the real /dev inside the chroot?  or what?
[06:48] <metrix> sector10a what are you using? do you know of any good howto's?
[06:48] <dooglus> nalioth: it's currently the same as breezy, so it's a good time to get it working
[06:48] <nalioth> dooglus: heh, i'm just a user of may years, i know not those words
[06:48] <ubenguin> hello all...damn I screwed up; hope someone can help... I killed grub (it's a long story), and while trying to reinstall it I deleted my initrd and vmlinux in /boot
[06:48] <abarbaccia> hey all - i need some help with fans on MB headers and ubuntu - i want to reduce the voltage to a fan because its SO FREAKIN LOUD
[06:49] <sector10a> metrix: let me see what we got
[06:49] <sector10a> metrix: i think its called just calendar
[06:49] <dooglus> ubenguin: do you want copies of those files?
[06:49] <ubenguin> dooglus: no
[06:49] <dooglus> ubenguin: so what do you want?
[06:49] <sid> sudo does not work for me :(
[06:49] <n0odl3> where is vlc located
[06:49] <ubenguin> dooglus: oh..duh, I thought it said do I have copies
[06:49] <n0odl3> i cant find the location so i can open it with vlc
[06:50] <metrix> sector10a LOL it's that easy.. how are you sharing it?
[06:50] <dooglus> n0odl3: it's in universe
[06:50] <sun_> hi
[06:50] <FOOKIT> if this is the CMD to install sudo dpkg -i realplayer_*.deb , what it the cmd to uninstall?
[06:50] <ubenguin> dooglus: so it's as simple as that?
[06:50] <sun_> anyone here
[06:50] <dabaR> no
[06:50] <n0odl3> i mean in the file system
[06:50] <nalioth> n0odl3: enable universe and multiverse
[06:50] <sun_> i'm new
[06:50] <dabaR> me 4
[06:50] <dooglus> n0odl3: vlc is /usr/bin/vlc
[06:50] <sun_> hahaha
[06:50] <sun_> heheh
[06:50] <sun_> ye
[06:50] <Agamotto> sun_:  Welcome aboard
[06:51] <var> sid:  have you added a user or changer your user account ?
[06:51] <metrix> sector10a is it via a web page?
[06:51] <dooglus> ubenguin: if all you've done is deleted those 2 files, then putting them back should sort you out
[06:51] <sid> yes I deleted a user and added another user
[06:51] <sector10a> http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php
[06:51] <tritium> sid: did you delete the first user you created?
[06:51] <ubenguin> dooglus: I thought the initrd was different for each computer, just a generic file?
[06:51] <sid> yes
[06:51] <var> thats it.  you are not in the /etc/sudoers file
[06:51] <dooglus> sid: when you create a user, make sure you give them admin privaleges.  it's in the 'advanced' tab I think
[06:51] <sector10a> metrix: i hope i dont have that version lol
[06:51] <dooglus> ubenguin: it's a binary in the .deb file I think
[06:51] <spudse> How can I run sudo commands in sessions-->startup ?
[06:52] <var> sid you will probably have to reboot to single user mode to fix it.
[06:52] <n0odl3> thanks
[06:52] <n0odl3> its working
[06:52] <sid> yes, its not even opening
[06:52] <ubenguin> dooglus: well, it's worth a try, so you know where I can get them?
[06:52] <tritium> sid: yes, reboot into single-user mode, then adduser <username> admin
[06:52] <var> unless you have set a root passwd, the only way to get to root is single
[06:52] <metrix> sector10a thanks for the help! I will research this
[06:52] <dooglus> ubenguin: i might be wrong about that.  I can't find boot/initrd in any package.  sorry!
[06:52] <sector10a> metrix: i can view other peoples appointments
[06:53] <sector10a> good luck
[06:53] <sid> ok I will try that
[06:53] <ubenguin> dooglus: didn't think it was a package... :0
[06:53] <sid> give me the exact command
[06:53] <dabaR> he did
[06:53] <sid> you mean I shold login to safe mode
[06:53] <ubenguin> dooglus: I didn't think of that though , let me google for it real quick
[06:54] <dabaR> recovery, , then "adduser <username> admin"
[06:54] <var> sid: tritium or he could just edit /etc/sudoers when in single user and change his old user name to the new one.
[06:54] <qiHEWSfi> i am going to download mandriva from a ftp server which has the distro in a directory tree. does ubuntu come with a graphical ftp program and/or which would be a good one?
[06:54] <var> sid not safe mode    "1"
[06:54] <tritium> var: I'd add the user to the admin group, as dabaR pointed out
[06:55] <sid> ok, I think I can do it
[06:55] <metrix> sector10a: LOL actually that's ok.. it's small enough group that it won't be a problem. it's just for a small office.
[06:55] <qiHEWSfi> no problem i found the isos =)
[06:55] <dooglus> ubenguin: I guess what you need to do is download the linux-image-2.6.12-9-386.deb and initramfs-tools.deb packages from packages.ubuntu.com and then boot into 'rescue' mode and install them with dpkg -i
[06:56] <dooglus> ubenguin: if you're lucky, the .deb files are already in your package cache, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:56] <tritium> dabaR: :)
[06:56] <dooglus> qiHEWSfi: friends don't help friends download mandriva isos
[06:56] <ubenguin> dooglus: and I would just run initramfs? after I install them?
[06:56] <var> tritium: well there may be 'gui' reasons for that, i agree; but just editing sudoers will give access to root via sudo and from there any other fix can be applied
[06:57] <dooglus> ubenguin: I think that installing the kernel will make the initrd for you
[06:57] <ubenguin> dooglus: aahhh
[06:57] <ubenguin> dooglus: sounds like it might work...I'll give it a shot and check back; thanks
[06:57] <tritium> var: yes, the main thing is to get sudoer priveleges
[06:58] <absolute_> hi, i just installed ubuntu 5.04, and i never got to set a root passwd.. can i do that now?
[06:58] <dabaR> var: group admin is not a gui thing:)
[06:58] <tritium> absolute_: you can, but you're encouraged to try sudo instead
[06:58] <qiHEWSfi> dooglus i am going to install ubuntu, kubuntu and edubuntu and mandriva on my machine..
[06:59] <sector10a> metrix: do it in groups of 4
[06:59] <absolute_> yes but how can i do the upgrades in gui with sudo?
[06:59] <qiHEWSfi> dooglus later on gentoo and openbsd
[06:59] <dabaR> absolute_: just use your password
[06:59] <tritium> !tell absolute_ about rootsudo
[06:59] <absolute_> it dosnt work
[06:59] <qiHEWSfi> dooglus totally hooked on linux =)
[06:59] <tritium> it does, absolute_
[06:59] <absolute_> ok ill try
[06:59] <dooglus> qiHEWSfi: I hear OpenSUSE 10 is worth a look too, if you're in the mood
[07:00] <qiHEWSfi> dooglus nice to know thanks
[07:00] <propagandhi> yeah Suse 10 is very good
[07:00] <adriyel__> propagandhi, um. no.
[07:00] <sector10a> no its not
[07:00] <dooglus> qiHEWSfi: http://madpenguin.org/cms/html/47/5382.html
[07:00] <propagandhi> yes it certainly is
[07:00] <var> absolute_: yes you can set a root passwd now if you wish.   "sudo passwd "  and first enter your user password then set the root password.
[07:00] <FOOKIT> sorry what dose this mean im gonna post it just once plz dont get mad
[07:00] <FOOKIT> Unpacking realplayer (from realplayer_10.0.4-0.2_i386.deb) ...
[07:00] <FOOKIT> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of realplayer:
[07:00] <FOOKIT>  realplayer depends on libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1); however:
[07:00] <FOOKIT>   Package libstdc++5 is not installed.
[07:00] <FOOKIT> dpkg: error processing realplayer (--install):
[07:00] <FOOKIT>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[07:01] <FOOKIT> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:01] <sector10a> bad on my notebook
[07:01] <FOOKIT>  realplayer
[07:01] <dabaR> FOOKIT: ask the bot about paste
[07:01] <sector10a> suse 10 has bzflag and it works
[07:01] <dabaR> you guys are fast
[07:01] <dabaR> lol
[07:01] <sector10a> thats all
[07:01] <sector10a> lol
[07:02] <iceman> ok, anyone, any game's lilke Diablo available for linux, that are multiplayer online
[07:02] <josh__> ey guys. who wansta help a noob
[07:02] <adriyel__> g'night all
[07:02] <nalioth> FOOKIT: please dont paste in here
[07:02] <nalioth> josh__: ask your question
[07:02] <dabaR> josh__: ask the bot about ask
[07:02] <sector10a> FOOKIT: like, wered you get the name?
[07:02] <qiHEWSfi> dooglus i think i will have suse instead of mandriva
[07:02] <josh__> how
[07:02] <bhearsum> does the x.org version that comes with breezy have the Composite extension?
[07:02] <sector10a> mandrival and sukse huh?
[07:02] <dabaR> josh__: he told you.
[07:02] <dooglus> qiHEWSfi: at least SUSE is properly free now.
[07:03] <qiHEWSfi> dooglus a programmin platform is much more useful than another windows clone
[07:03] <propagandhi> whilst ubuntu is my absolute preferred, suse has always been a really good distro
[07:03] <absolute_> thanks tritium
[07:03] <var> mmmmm mandrake-vay
[07:03] <chickFlick> dabaR: how can I make pear work ?
[07:03] <josh__> lol
[07:03] <josh__> i dont like the bot
[07:03] <chickFlick> dabar : now its installed..
[07:03] <dabaR> chickFlick: did you install the thing yet???
[07:03] <dabaR> ha
[07:03] <chickFlick> dabaR : yes
[07:03] <sector10a> dooglus: its a nice distro except for wireless
[07:03] <p0windah> chickFlick: they've just php files you include in your code...
[07:04] <p0windah> they're
[07:04] <dabaR> chickFlick: it works now, wdo you know how t use it?
[07:04] <josh__> look guys i just want to know how to get good resolution on my pc
[07:04] <sector10a> dooglus: ubuntu's wireless works out of box
[07:05] <sector10a> dooglus: in suse the eth0 and eth1 were reversed
[07:05] <propagandhi> depending on your wireless card
[07:05] <wickedpuppy> josh__, system -> preference -> screen resolution
[07:05] <FOOKIT> when i install Realplyer theres a Dependency error .........
[07:05] <sector10a> and acpi
[07:05] <josh__> no im not that noobish
[07:05] <dabaR> josh__: ask the bot about resolution
[07:05] <FOOKIT> im that noobish
[07:05] <sector10a> its more than the wireless device
[07:06] <wickedpuppy> josh__, you said you are a noob
[07:06] <josh__> i only have 1 resolution there its 640x480
[07:06] <wickedpuppy> now you said you are not
[07:06] <josh__> im a linux noob
[07:06] <dooglus> sector10a: apparently wireless is a lot better in SUSE 10
[07:06] <josh__> not a pc noob
[07:06] <josh__> or a cs noob
[07:06] <FOOKIT> im a noob i need help :(
[07:06] <dabaR> stop about that, its not helping anyone
[07:06] <dooglus> sector10a: I'll be staying with ubuntu anyway.
[07:06] <propagandhi> sector10a: my wireless functions just as well on suse as it does under ubuntu
[07:06] <sector10a> dooglus: a little
[07:06] <sid> how do it restart in single user mode
[07:06] <locust> I'm so happy. I have 3D acceleration now!
[07:06] <Uchiha> does ubuntu support apple internal modems?
[07:06] <dooglus> sid: sudo init 1
[07:06] <wickedpuppy> josh__, your graphics card ?
[07:06] <var> josh__: maybe  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "
[07:07] <p0windah> I'm not a noob but can anyone tell me where c: drive is in ubuntu ?
[07:07] <josh__> see thats where im a noob
[07:07] <sector10a> well i think my nvidia card/graphics were casausing problems
[07:07] <josh__> where do i typr tht
[07:07] <dabaR> sid: you gotta leave the channel, reboot, and press escape at some poit during the boot to see the menu, then select recovery mode. then the command, that you wrote down by now
[07:07] <wickedpuppy> josh__, terminal
[07:07] <sector10a> i know that sounds crazy
[07:07] <propagandhi> josh__: what is the resolution you're trying to achieve
[07:07] <dooglus> p0windah: C: is a windows thing.
[07:07] <FOOKIT>  Package libstdc++5 is not installed
[07:07] <josh__> but it said i have to be in root to type that
[07:07] <dabaR> FOOKIT: are you that guy that pasted?
[07:07] <p0windah> dooglus: I'm not a noob, I know my computer has a c: drive
[07:07] <cahoone> hi everybody
[07:07] <sid> Ok
[07:07] <FOOKIT> yeah
[07:07] <agt> lol
[07:07] <nalioth> p0windah: there is no C: drive or anything like it
[07:08] <josh__> at least 1024x720
[07:08] <FOOKIT> i need help so bad
[07:08] <dabaR> FOOKIT: do what ubotu told you
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[07:08] <sector10a> dooglus: i removed some lines in xorg.cong and now my wirless and mousetter work be
[07:08] <sector10a> mouse work better
[07:08] <wickedpuppy> josh__, sudo
[07:08] <sector10a> dman
[07:08] <FOOKIT> did every shared of what the bot sait
[07:08] <var> sid use the key "E" to edit the entry in grub before the boot peocess begins.  and add  "1"  to the line that boots ubuntu  then use "B" to boot into single user mode.
[07:08] <josh__> how do i get to root?
[07:08] <FOOKIT> said
[07:08] <deang> Would someone mind cluing me in on the difference between VIM for Gnome and GTK?
[07:08] <sid> exit
[07:08] <iceman> where could i find screenshots of cedega in action ..
[07:08] <sector10a> lol
[07:08] <Uchiha> Hey
[07:08] <Uchiha> so
[07:08] <Uchiha> anyway
[07:08] <dabaR> deang: why is this important?
[07:08] <Sirrush> Hello Everyone
[07:08] <josh__> ok hold on
[07:08] <Uchiha> do apple internal modems work with ubuntu?
[07:09] <tritium> Hi Sirrush
[07:09] <wickedpuppy> josh__, did you type sudo as well ?
[07:09] <p0windah> iceman: are you thinking of paying those criminals ?
[07:09] <Sirrush> Howdy tritium
[07:09] <josh__> ok im at the terminal
[07:09] <deang> dabaR: Inquiring mind.
[07:09] <josh__> i havent typed anything yet
[07:09] <propagandhi> true, why would you pay?!
[07:09] <dabaR> josh__: then scroll up and see the command
[07:09] <wickedpuppy> josh__, then type what var told ya
[07:09] <cahoone> is there any video editor in ubuntu synaptic??
[07:09] <cahoone> I tried Kino but there's no way to add sound to your video
[07:09] <dabaR> deang: did you install both and seen for yourself?
[07:09] <josh__> last time i put anything in it it turned off my pc
[07:10] <nalioth> cahoone: several
[07:10] <josh__> ok ill try
[07:10] <var> sid when finished in single user mode type init 5    (or what ever your normal runlevel is.)
[07:10] <propagandhi> has anyone seen Revolution OS
[07:10] <cahoone> really? like what?
[07:10] <wickedpuppy> josh__, anything ? what about ls ?
[07:10] <lymz> there used to be a "display settings" application under system >administration; where did it go? (i'm on a fresh install of breezy)
[07:10] <Uchiha> Gee, can I use my apple internal modem with ubuntu?
[07:10] <bob2> var: 2.
[07:10] <josh__> whats ls do
[07:10] <josh__> ?
[07:10] <nalioth> Uchiha: yes, you should be able to use your apple modem
[07:10] <Uchiha> thanks
[07:11] <p0windah> a.k.a dir in windows josh__
[07:11] <var> ub defaults to 2    hmmmmm  ok
[07:11] <wickedpuppy> josh__, instead of asking us what each command does ... you can either try it or do man <command>
[07:11] <deang> dabaR: it's one or the other. vim-gnome or vim-gtk.  I would prefer a URL or quick summary.
[07:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell josh__ about cli
[07:11] <wickedpuppy> if not you will never be a linux pro
[07:11] <p0windah> or quite telling us he isnt a noob
[07:11] <p0windah> quit, rather
[07:11] <bob2> var: as does debian and other non-rh-based systems
[07:11] <iceman> #cedega
[07:12] <wickedpuppy> so p0windah have you found ya C drive in ubuntu ?
[07:12] <josh__> i typed that stuff u told me and it said  Package `xserver' is not installed and no info is available.
[07:12] <josh__> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[07:12] <josh__> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[07:12] <josh__> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver is not installed
[07:12] <var> i've set up linux with only 2 runlevels run and reboot    and i've changed the same system to have 12 runlevels   it is all in /etc/inittab  bob2
[07:12] <p0windah> wickedpuppy: yeah, I pulled my head out of my ass and found it
[07:12] <nalioth> josh__: please dont paste in here
[07:12] <bob2> var: yes, I know how it works
[07:13] <josh__> ok
[07:13] <josh__> sorry
[07:13] <tritium> josh__: it's xserver-xorg, and please don't paste
[07:13] <p0windah> wickedpuppy: I was mocking myself there, not you btw
[07:13] <josh__> im just trying to get help
[07:13] <josh__> what do i do then?
[07:13] <var> last time i used it slakware used rl 4 as gui mode
[07:14] <var> josh it is xserver-xorg  not xserver
[07:15] <deadLikeMe> dabaR: installed pear.. but there are so many DB.php files
[07:15] <josh__> ok i typed ls and it just says " desktop" in blue
[07:15] <cahoone> i looked for iMira and Lives and Broadcast 2000 & Avidemux but only found Kino
[07:15] <cahoone> for video editors
[07:15] <stjepan> hello
[07:15] <nalioth> cahoone: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[07:15] <starlight> hi
[07:15] <deadLikeMe> hello
[07:15] <stjepan> is ubuntu really unstable?
[07:15] <bob2> stjepan: of course not
[07:15] <cahoone> only universe
[07:15] <dabaR> deadLikeMe: I cant teach you to use pear, ask in #php or something.
[07:16] <AIO> ello
[07:16] <bob2> stjepan: please don't believe or spread stupid rumours
[07:16] <p0windah> stjepan: no
[07:16] <DShepher1> breezy...for desktop, for school, for servers...Ubuntu; Brown Sugar is good for you :)
[07:16] <stjepan> but slackware, debian and other distros are more stable
[07:16] <var> josh__: maybe  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "  <---- note not 'xserver'  but  'xserver-xorg'  major differance there.
[07:16] <cahoone> i'll add multiverse, then, and look again
[07:16] <Agamotto> stjepan:  Please define stable
[07:16] <nalioth> cahoone: enable multiverse and you'll fine many more video editors
[07:16] <Parisi> Back
[07:17] <cahoone> ok thanks
[07:17] <josh__> okokok
[07:17] <stjepan> no crashing :)
[07:17] <cool_guy> hello ppl
[07:17] <stjepan> no missed libarries :)
[07:17] <starlight> hi
[07:17] <cool_guy> can sumone help me on ubuntu 5.04????
[07:17] <bob2> stjepan: please stop it
[07:17] <josh__> i did it and it wants to know how much memory to give my gfx card
[07:17] <bob2> stjepan: or leave, your choice
[07:17] <josh__> how much should i give it?
[07:17] <nalioth> josh__: how much memory is on your graphics card?
[07:17] <bob2> stjepan: semi-coherent clueless rambling about ubuntu being "unstable" is off-topic and silly
[07:18] <bob2> josh__: leave it blank
[07:18] <josh__> i dunno
[07:18] <josh__> ok
[07:18] <var> josh__: it also says if you dont know leave it blank
[07:18] <stjepan> are there free shipit kubuntu cds?
[07:18] <Agamotto> cool_guy:  Go ahead
[07:18] <bob2> stjepan: read the kubuntu website (no)
[07:18] <furic> Hey, im trying to sort out hibernation on my hoary installation, on another box (well, this one, im connected via vnc from the problem pc so i can reboot and stuff) everything is fine, but on the problem pc i get a kernel panic and the console freezes, is there any log file i can look at to see what was off screen when it froze?
[07:18] <dabaR> stjepan: see at shipit.ubuntu.com
[07:18] <p0windah> stjepan: what does the ubuntu website say ?
[07:19] <ksmurf> bounce something of you guys.  I've been trying to think of a way to setup a decent file server from my main 'puter.  I have no idea about NFS (since they are all Linux boxes) and samba only seems to work about 1/2 the time.  I am thinking about apache?  I have no web setup experience but started playing with 1.3.3 and seems it might serve the purpose.  I am behind a router so 1. would this be safe (with be such a noob) and 2.  Any bet
[07:19] <ksmurf> ter ideas?
[07:19] <var> josh__: read all of every screen in that config.     don't skim
[07:19] <p0windah> video detection and resolution stuff has room for improvement, thats for sure
[07:20] <nalioth> ksmurf: nfs would be worth the time learning
[07:20] <p0windah> ksmurf: ftp
[07:20] <starlight> hi
[07:21] <ksmurf> nalioth any good sites.... or just google it ...;>
[07:21] <starlight> hi
[07:21] <nalioth> ksmurf: nfs is a *nix standard, therea are many howtos starting with
[07:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ksmurf about nfs
[07:21] <starlight> wanna chat with me
[07:21] <nalioth> starlight: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:21] <starlight> hey ohmer
[07:21] <p0windah> starlight: sure thing, whats your phone number ?
[07:22] <var> br549
[07:22] <krontabz> howsit going folks
[07:22] <mitchell> gyaah
[07:22] <cool_guy> is no1 ready to help me????
[07:22] <ksmurf> nalioth Thanks!!!
[07:22] <mitchell> what is the http port for cups?
[07:22] <tritium> cool_guy: trustno1 ;)
[07:23] <cool_guy> :)
[07:23] <cool_guy> can i trust u
[07:23] <starlight> hi
[07:23] <Agamotto> cool_guy:  We have been waiting for you to state your query.
[07:23] <krontabz> quick question folks... wheres the libdvdcss ubuntu package at?
[07:23] <cool_guy> ok
[07:23] <dabaR> starlight: we see your hi
[07:23] <p0windah> what was his question ?
[07:23] <cool_guy> i actually sent u a pm:)
[07:23] <cool_guy> but its ok
[07:23] <cool_guy> i will say it again
[07:23] <tarheelcoxn> krontabz: there isn't
[07:23] <var> cool_guy: i didn't notice you asking any linux question
[07:23] <bob2> come on folks
[07:23] <krontabz> figured as much...
[07:23] <krontabz> hehe
[07:23] <bob2> this isn't AOL
[07:23] <starlight> hi
[07:23] <Agamotto> krontabz:  Doesn't exist due to legal issues... google and seek it out
[07:23] <bob2> starlight: this is not a chat channel.
[07:24] <cool_guy> i installed ubuntu 5.04 n i am not able to set the resolution i mean the screen resolution
[07:24] <bob2> starlight: if you don't have an ubuntu question, I'll have t ask you to leave
[07:24] <bob2> cool_guy: yes, you can
[07:24] <bob2> cool_guy: /msg ubotu fixres
[07:24] <starlight> hi dabar
[07:24] <cool_guy> i am getting only 1 option tat is 640x480
[07:24] <krontabz> yeah figured i'd just compile it... but thought there might be a precompiled binary for deb / ubuntu
[07:24] <nalioth> krontabz: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[07:24] <Agamotto> cool_guy:  What hardware as far as video card and monitor?
[07:24] <propagandhi> !restricted
[07:24] <krontabz> thanks
[07:24] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[07:24] <var> cool_guy maybe  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "
[07:24] <propagandhi> krontabz: take a look at the above link
[07:25] <FOOKIT> hey I got realplyer installed now its saying Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it.
[07:25] <krontabz> yay...
[07:25] <cool_guy> i have D865GBF intel original motherboard with built in graphics card of 64 mb
[07:25] <krontabz> there it is... thanks mate
[07:25] <bob2> FOOKIT: pkill esd, try again
[07:25] <cool_guy> var wats tat?
[07:25] <nalioth> dabaR: i wonder, too heh
[07:25] <FOOKIT> whats that mean Bob
[07:25] <dabaR> haha
[07:25] <dabaR> its all logged
[07:25] <var> to walk you through the reconfiguration process for your xserver.
[07:25] <cool_guy> hey <bob2> wats /msg ubotu fixres????
[07:26] <FOOKIT> bob2: whats that mean?
[07:26] <krontabz> thanks prop
 how do i do tat reinstall?
[07:26] <ChazZ> question:  has anyone else gotten corrupted packages in the breezy install iso?
[07:26] <tritium> cool_guy: type this: "/msg ubotu fixres"
[07:26] <volga> can someone point me to package for libc documentation!
[07:26] <cool_guy> i did
[07:26] <cool_guy> i typed /msg ubotu fixres
[07:26] <FOOKIT> hey I got realplyer installed now its saying Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it.
[07:26] <cool_guy> n nothing happened
[07:26] <dabaR> FOOKIT: why do yo care?:) its to kill the process with name esd, and it restarts itself, and it works
[07:27] <bob2> cool_guy: uh, type it into your IRC client
[07:27] <p0windah> is there a point where we can suggest ubuntu might be too hard for some users to use ?
[07:27] <dabaR> or maybe not restarts it
[07:27] <cool_guy> ok
[07:27] <bob2> FOOKIT: that means "do what I said and it will work"
[07:27] <Parisi> p0windah,  Hard ?
[07:27] <FOOKIT> i dont really just wanted to know cuzz he was talking to me
[07:27] <bob2> FOOKIT: where "what I said" = "run 'pkill esd' in a terminal"
[07:27] <dabaR> 4gl
[07:27] <cool_guy> it says private message from unregistered users are currently blocked
[07:27] <cool_guy> wat do i do?
[07:27] <Agamotto> cool_guy:  Ok, seems to be good enough kit.  Please describe what you have done in trying to set your resolution
[07:27] <Parisi> p0windah,  Do not see how it can be any harder then any other Linux distro.
[07:28] <maximaus> FOOKIT, it should "just work" under Breezy. but if you've got another audio app running it can "hijack" the audio output. :)
[07:28] <volga> why does ubuntu doesnt package gcc with its cd.
[07:28] <var> !fixres
[07:28] <ubotu> it has been said that fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:28] <bob2> cool_guy: ffs, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:28] <p0windah> Parisi: this is #ubuntu after all
[07:28] <volga> most developer unfriendly thing to do
[07:28] <maximaus> volga, "apt-get install build-essential"
[07:28] <nalioth> volga: gcc is on the cd, install "build-essential"
[07:28] <FOOKIT> got it
[07:28] <bob2> dabaR: postgresql is quite lovely.
[07:28] <tritium> volga: it's geared toward the user
[07:28] <bob2> volga: right, because no one considered the rammifications of not installing it by default
[07:28] <maximaus> volga, the install CD is a single disc so no room
[07:29] <dabaR> bob2: ya, no, I was off on a tangent, thinking about something else:)
 i installed n i went to the system tools on the top panel i clicked the screen resolution n i wasnt able to fix the resolution other than 640x480 there is no other option my screen looks huge now n really ackward
[07:29] <bob2> volga: there was a huge discussion before warty, and it was realised that people who claim to be develoeprs are smart enough to run one apt command
[07:29] <volga> bob2, i recommeneded ubuntu to lot of people . but they came back with it doesnt have gcc
[07:29] <volga> i mean many students asked for some cd
[07:29] <Agamotto> cool_guy:  go to the website that has been mentioned, and there is a walkthrough to fix your problem.
[07:29] <p0windah> volga: surely you jest
[07:29] <bob2> volga: then recommend something that won't confuse them
[07:29] <bob2> like lindows
[07:30] <p0windah> volga: they couldnt come to grips with apt ?
[07:30] <tritium> volga: surely they can install packages
[07:30] <cool_guy> thanx
[07:30] <bob2> volga: but you're right, windows comes with a full development system installed
[07:30] <volga> they can but they dont have internet
[07:30] <cool_guy> i will check it out
[07:30] <cool_guy> :)
[07:30] <bob2> oh, wait
[07:30] <p0windah> volga: its on the cd
[07:30] <cool_guy> i have more problems i will tell u after i fix my resolutiion:)
[07:30] <cool_guy> thanx guys
[07:30] <Agamotto> Hell, if you can't come to grips with apt, how would you manage with .dll errors in Windows???
[07:31] <volga> bob2, i like ubuntu with what it has done with gnome.
[07:31] <volga> i am comfortable with it
[07:31] <var> yeah bob2 they were doing that back in 95,,,,,,  right ?
[07:31] <volga> but since ubuntu cds are so readily available
[07:31] <Parisi> I like ubuntu other then dull theme.
[07:32] <cool_guy> !fixres
[07:32] <ubotu> [fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:32] <p0windah> I like how ubuntu supports my c: drive
[07:32] <Nicks_Suck> can someone help me getting amsn working on Ubuntu?
[07:32] <bob2> Nicks_Suck: you don't like gaim?
[07:32] <Parisi> Nicks_Suck, Why would you wanna use that?
[07:32] <volga> Agamotto, i am talking of ppl who can be taught to use apt , but they dont have luxury of a internet connection
[07:32] <Nicks_Suck> bob2:  how do I get msn working with gaim?
[07:32] <var> c drive    lol
[07:32] <tritium> volga: it's on the CD, as we've said
[07:32] <nalioth> volga: gcc is on the cd
[07:33] <cahoone> oh, there's an error in my multiverse repos
[07:33] <volga> ok :P
[07:33] <p0windah> volga: apt works with the install CD
[07:33] <Agamotto> volga:  Ahhh, I stand corrected
[07:33] <bob2> Nicks_Suck: add a msn account...
[07:33] <Nicks_Suck> hehe, lemme give it a shot
[07:33] <cahoone> it says 404 Not Found Error
[07:34] <m0zone> i find gaim works well for msn stuffs
[07:34] <dabaR> s
[07:34] <cahoone> is that common? is the server down now but maybe in a couple of hours will be online?
[07:35] <Nicks_Suck> haha cool, ok
[07:35] <bob2> cahoone: vague statements of your problem make it impossible to guess
[07:35] <Nicks_Suck> bob2:  my bad man, first time using Ubuntu and it's pretty cool :)
[07:35] <cahoone> the error says: http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[07:35] <bob2> cahoone: if the issue is that you ran apt-get update recently, but dist-upgrade is failing, it means your mirror is broken
[07:35] <m0zone> bah sister uses msn and she cant work a vcr lol
[07:35] <cahoone> ok
[07:36] <cahoone> I can add another mirror, can't I?
[07:36] <bob2> cahoone: ah, duh
[07:36] <bob2> cahoone: don't use backports
[07:36] <cahoone> ok, what can I do then?
[07:36] <bob2> cahoone: get rid of that line from your sources.list
[07:36] <dabaR> coment it out, put a # in from of the line, or remove it, by replacing it with nothing.
[07:37] <cahoone> ok
[07:37] <var> ah someone remind me what the name of the file that contains the sources is ?
[07:38] <dabaR> var: /etc/apt/s<tab>
[07:38] <benplaut> anyone know how to recompile/configure Beagle to have .DOC support?
[07:38] <krontabz> could anyone direct me to instructions for an easy way of editing the Gnome application menu?
[07:38] <var> dabaR: only works on a ub system.....
[07:38] <benplaut> ubotu tell krontabz about smeg
[07:38] <nalioth> krontabz: you run breezy?
[07:38] <tritium> good night
[07:39] <krontabz> yup...
[07:39] <dabaR> var: wth? oh, you mean you are on something else, ok.
[07:39] <yapyccky> hello, does anyone knows if is possible to join a x.25 net by a normal modem and a normal telephone line?
[07:39] <dabaR> night
[07:39] <nalioth> krontabz: right click on your menu
[07:39] <dabaR> nalioth: in debian, or in ubuntu too?
[07:39] <krontabz> I officially suck if its that easy...
[07:39] <krontabz> hehe
[07:39] <var> yes dabaR
[07:39] <cool_guy> what is vertical refresh rate and horizontal sync frequency that they have mentioned how do i get to know tat??
[07:39] <nalioth> dabaR: in ubuntu what?
[07:40] <krontabz> awesome... im a recent slackware/debian convert....  I've never heard of smeg before...
[07:40] <dabaR> its a new app too, anyhow
[07:40] <Agamotto> cool_guy:  That info should be in the manual to your monitor
[07:40] <Myrtti> where could I add my suggestions for the programs I'd like to have added to Ubuntu?
[07:40] <Myrtti> (and bear with me, I'm tired)
[07:41] <cool_guy> where is the manual?
[07:41] <bob2> Myrtti: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU links to it
[07:41] <nalioth> krontabz: one of our developers did it for ubuntu, it'll get around
[07:41] <var> Agamotto: and on the back of some of them
[07:41] <cool_guy> int he os itself?
[07:41] <Myrtti> bob2: thanks
[07:41] <nalioth> !faq
[07:41] <ubotu> hmm... faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[07:41] <krontabz> ohh!! ok... so this is new then...
[07:41] <cool_guy> is tat for me?
[07:42] <Myrtti> actually I know that that it would be a case of just copying it from debian contrib to ubuntu
[07:42] <var> cool_guy: no the paperwork that came with the monitor....
[07:42] <madsen> Anyone (but me) had problems with mono? (Mine b0rks hardcore...)
[07:42] <madsen> I can't even run monodoc...
[07:42] <Myrtti> wouldn't need any porting per se
[07:42] <Orborde> I need some ndiswrapper help, I think.
[07:42] <krontabz> man... thats awesome.  This has been a problem with the recent versions of Gnome... the menu not having a built in editor
[07:43] <Agamotto> cool_guy:  A manual is a binding of papers that usually comes with a monitor that specifies what it is and is not capable of displaying
[07:43] <cool_guy> is there ne other way of finding them on net
[07:43] <Orborde> I use ndiswrapper -i blah, and modprobed ndiswrapper, and ndiswrapper -l gives: bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present, but I don't see any new network interfaces.
[07:43] <cool_guy> i have a samsung 793s monitor
[07:43] <dabaR> cool_guy: yes, its all on that page, read, please
[07:43] <madsen> Agamotto: ... or can usually be downloaded from the hardware companys website.
[07:43] <var> cool_guy: also you can check http://monitorworld.com  i think it is, they have a search script.
[07:43] <Agamotto> cool_guy:  Hint - if you don't have a manual, go the samsung website and look up your hardware
[07:44] <cool_guy> thanx guys
[07:44] <cool_guy> i will try it out
[07:44] <Darkhack> Orborde - when you type iwconfig wlan0 should appear, does it not?
[07:45] <madsen> Anyways, if anyone's got some dirt on Mono, give me a msg! It's driving me nuts... A _lot_ of cool stuff is mono, you know... :-/
[07:45] <Myrtti> ah, my brain segfaults again
[07:45] <var> Agamotto: what's that   <blank_stare>
[07:45] <Orborde> Darkhack: Negative.
[07:45] <var> stair even
[07:45] <bob2> madsen: you haven't even shown us a traceback yet
[07:45] <Orborde> Darkhack: I just now did modprobe -r ndiswrapper, and then modprobe ndiswrapper. Still negative.
[07:46] <Agamotto> It is much like people who have college educations and yet can't figure square feet/metres
[07:46] <Darkhack> how was it installed?  Did it come with your distro, was it apt-getted or compiled?
[07:46] <Darkhack> ndiswrapper, i mean
[07:47] <Orborde> Darkhack: The module came with Breezy (AMD64, btw), and I apt-got ndiswrapper-utils
[07:47] <Centaur5> Does anybody know if they have wine for 64 bit because I don't see it in synaptic?
[07:47] <cahoone> ok, I already removed the backports from sources.list
[07:47] <cahoone> now, how can I access multiverse?
[07:47] <bob2> Centaur5: "64-bit"? you mean amd64? no.
[07:48] <Orborde> bob2: Why not?
[07:48] <bob2> cahoone: /msg ubotu repositories
[07:48] <Centaur5> bob2: yes sir, that's what I mean
[07:48] <bob2> Orborde: why not what?
[07:48] <nalioth> cahoone: in your sources.list, everywhere you see 'universe', make it say "universe multiverse"
[07:48] <Orborde> bob2: Why can't Wine be used on AMD64 ?
[07:48] <bob2> Centaur5: i you care about binary only crap, use the i386 port (or make a i386 chroot)
[07:48] <bob2> Orborde: do you know what wine does?
[07:48] <cahoone> ok
[07:49] <Orborde> bob2: Emulates Windows function calls, doesn't it?
[07:49] <Centaur5> bob2: I don't care if they don't have a 64 bit version of wine but for some reason it's not in synaptic
[07:49] <bob2> Orborde: right, while running the application normally; it can't run it as a 64-bit application.
[07:49] <bob2> Centaur5: uh
[07:49] <bob2> Centaur5: perhaps those two thigns are related?
[07:49] <bob2> Orborde: I guess with ia32-libs it would work.
[07:49] <Orborde> Centaur5: If you're on amd64, synaptic automatically ignores non-64bit packages.
[07:49] <bob2> Centaur5: (it's not in the list because it's not available on amd64)
[07:49] <Centaur5> I figured so
[07:49] <dabaR> bob2: whats with firefox? is it buggy right now, or what? how can I make it not use the built-in player?
[07:49] <dabaR> video player that is.
[07:50] <madsen> bob2: Heh, what do you want, there's really not much...
[07:50] <Orborde> bob2: So I could maybe get Wine under a 32bit userland, right?
[07:50] <Centaur5> Okay, I guess I'll just have to wait
[07:50] <Orborde> bob2: chroot, that is
[07:50] <bob2> Orborde: sure, it'll work fine in a chroot
[07:50] <bob2> Orborde: right
[07:50] <bob2> (I said that to Centaur5 above, fwiw...)
[07:50] <madsen> bob2: "Unhandled Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object" and that _all_ it gives when I do 'monodoc'.
[07:50] <Centaur5> Okay, any documentation on doing chroot?
[07:50] <bob2> dabaR: built-in player? if you mean video, I've never let firefox have a vide plugin
[07:50] <madsen> bob2: same goes for beagle, banshee and stuff...
[07:51] <bob2> Centaur5: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28debootstrap%29
[07:51] <Orborde> bob2: Dagnabbit; you beat me to it.
[07:51] <dabaR> bob2: I found at least one bug right now...anyhow, how do I turn it off?
[07:51] <Centaur5> thanks bob2
[07:51] <benplaut> anyone know how to recompile/configure Beagle to have .DOC support?
[07:52] <Centaur5> I suppose that I could also use chroot to install a 32 bit version of firefox to use macromedia?
[07:52] <FOOKIT> how do  I map a network folder ?
[07:52] <FOOKIT> or drive
[07:52] <madsen> benplaut: Doesn't it have that by default?
[07:52] <bob2> benplaut: apt-get source beagle ; edit debian/rules ; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us
[07:52] <benplaut> madsen: nope
[07:52] <bob2> benplaut: assuming it's really a compile time option
[07:53] <benplaut> i have no idea...
[07:53] <benplaut> i'm still a n00b for most things :(
[07:53] <topyli> ooh! the DRI updates of today just gave me hardware acceleration :)
[07:53] <dabaR> bob2: how do I stop letting totem_embedded from starting>
[07:53] <bob2> dabaR: rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem_mozilla.so, I guess
[07:53] <bob2> dabaR: it seems I do have it installed, but just don't ever see pages where it kicked in
[07:53] <madsen> bob2: No guesses on the mono-stuff?
[07:53] <dabaR> I never use firefox so I dont know:)
[07:54] <bob2> anyway, unless someone wants to help me with 8051 assembler, adios
[07:55] <bob2> madsen: I'd try reinstalling the mono libs, I guess; I've seen them randomly get corrupted and break things in odd ways before
[07:55] <cool_guy>  have 1 more problem
[07:55] <cool_guy> i tried to install wine into the os but it says tat sumthings missing
[07:55] <madsen> bob2: Ok, I'll try that - thanks! :) If you had a dime for every answer you gave to ppl on this channel, you'd be filthy stinking rich... :)
[07:55] <Orborde> When I'm setting up a chroot, approx. how long does the stage "I: Checking component main on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu...
[07:55] <Orborde> " take?
[07:55] <cool_guy> i donno wats tat
[07:55] <dabaR> bob2: better.
[07:56] <cool_guy> i mean i tried installing it using shell by the command "rpm -i wine*******.rpm"
[07:56] <bob2> Orborde: depends on your net connection
[07:56] <bob2> cool_guy: no, you don't ever use rpm on ubuntu
[07:56] <Orborde> bob2: Blazingly fast.
[07:56] <bob2> cool_guy: sudo apt-get install wine
[07:56] <bob2> Orborde: not very long
[07:56] <cool_guy> y?
[07:56] <cool_guy> what happens if i use rpm?
[07:56] <Orborde> bob2: I'm worried, because I think it crashed the last time I tried it.
[07:56] <Agamotto> cool_guy:  Open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install wine
[07:57] <madsen> cool_guy: You _can_ use 'alien' and convert the RPM to a .deb package... It might work, it might not...
[07:57] <cool_guy> ok
[07:57] <yapyccky_> god..i hate my connection today!!!
[07:57] <yapyccky_> ..
[07:57] <cool_guy> what is alien?
[07:57] <cool_guy> et???
[07:57] <Orborde> cool_guy: Don't use RPM because the infrastructure that does the packages is not set up for it.
[07:57] <cool_guy> :)
[07:57] <yapyccky_> can anyone please help me in setting up my modem?
[07:57] <cool_guy> ok
[07:57] <Agamotto> cool_guy:  RPMs are for other distros.  You could use their packages, but you would have to convert them with alien, and risk having a warped system
[07:57] <madsen> cool_guy: Oh, you're trying to install wine! Use 'sudo apt-get install wine' or synaptic instead.
[07:57] <cool_guy> what is synaptic n alien??
[07:58] <bob2> cool_guy: apt-cache show synaptic
[07:58] <bob2> cool_guy: apt-cache show alien
[07:58] <madsen> cool_guy: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[07:58] <yapyccky_> my ubuntu doenst recognize my modem...
[07:58] <cool_guy> no what is that actually?
[07:58] <cool_guy> is it an installer?
[07:58] <bob2> cool_guy: run those commands
[07:58] <bob2> yapyccky_: you need to be less vague
[07:58] <bob2> yapyccky_: e.g. tell us if it's a serial modem or not
[07:59] <cool_guy> ok
[07:59] <cool_guy> 1 more thing
[07:59] <dabaR> bob2: thank you so much, I have a friend that I installed firefox, and ever since the upgrade2breezy it's been crashing all the time, and I think this will fix it.
[07:59] <bob2> dabaR: np
[07:59] <yapyccky_> bob2 : its inside my laptop
[07:59] <cool_guy> i found a real player package n i dnt know to install it
[07:59] <cool_guy> how fdo i do it?
[07:59] <bob2> yapyccky_: then it's probably a useless winmodem
[07:59] <yapyccky_> bob2 : lspci show me
[07:59] <bob2> yapyccky_: www.linux-laptop.net, look up your laptop
[07:59] <Agamotto> cool_guy:  the same way you install the others
[07:59] <bob2> yapyccky_: ouch
[08:00] <Agamotto> cool-guy:  sudo apt-get install 'packagename'
[08:00] <madsen> cool_guy: In synaptic?
[08:00] <cool_guy> using apt-get install?
[08:00] <cool_guy> how do i do tat inm synaptic?
[08:00] <madsen> cool_guy: Or synaptic, if you're more comfortable with a graphical interface.
[08:00] <cool_guy> ok
[08:00] <var> cool_guy: you need to do a little reading.    two things please.   "man man "  <--- do that and read.    and  "man apt "  and read
[08:00] <madsen> cool_guy: right-click on it and 'mark for installation' and then 'apply', when you've marked all you want to install.
[08:01] <cool_guy> so synaptic is a add n remove programs tat is present in windows???
[08:01] <xfelon> hey
[08:01] <bob2> cool_guy: "tat" is not a word in English
[08:01] <bob2> cool_guy: synaptic is a tool for installing and removing software, tho, thes
[08:01] <bob2> er, 'yes'
[08:01] <xfelon> ive hooked my printer up, how do i make ubuntu recognize it?
[08:01] <cool_guy> :)
[08:01] <cool_guy> ok
[08:01] <bob2> xfelon: system -> admin -> printers
[08:01] <madsen> cool_guy: NO! synaptic is NOT Add/Remove Programs... It's _way_ better.
[08:02] <xfelon> thanks obb2
[08:02] <cool_guy> i have sum redhat source code cds can i install the softwares present in those cds?
[08:02] <bob2> cool_guy: no
[08:02] <madsen> cool_guy: Why would you?
[08:02] <bob2> cool_guy: not simply, and it's not likely to be useful
[08:02] <cool_guy> i need sum video players
[08:02] <madsen> cool_guy: I bet 99.9% of the RPMS are in Apt as .debs as well...
[08:02] <yapyccky_> Modem: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02)
[08:02] <cool_guy> the totem video player hangs if i play a video
[08:02] <madsen> cool_guy: Seriously, google for "ubuntu introduction" or something...
[08:03] <yapyccky_> bob2 : on linuxlaptop there is no mine
[08:03] <bob2> yapyccky_: ouch
[08:03] <var> cool_guy: you need to do a little reading.    two things please.   "man man "  <--- do that and read.    and  "man apt "  and read   please please please.....
[08:03] <bob2> cool_guy: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:03] <madsen> yapyccky_: What laptop?
[08:04] <yapyccky_> madsen : asus l5970
[08:04] <Orborde> bob2: If I'm setting up a chroot for the sole purpose of running a few 32-bit apps, would it be a Bad Idea to mount bind /etc/ to /chroot/etc ?
[08:04] <madsen> yapyccky_: Weird... I think the most common intel modems should be supported... (?)
[08:04] <cool_guy> k guys thanx for the help
[08:04] <cool_guy> i will ask u more questions later
[08:04] <cool_guy> :)
[08:05] <cool_guy> i will read that man stuff n get back to this:)
[08:05] <cool_guy> bye
[08:05] <cool_guy> thanx again for such a good help:)
[08:05] <yapyccky_> madsen : i dunno what to do...could u please (even more or less) tel me how to move?
[08:05] <cahoone> ok, I changed my source.list with multiverse, opened Synaptic and reloaded the package information
[08:05] <mike_douglas> Can anyone help me identify this typesetting language a friend sent me? It uses "h2." for smaller headers, three backquotes for code, and "n." for comments
[08:05] <madsen> yapyccky_: Sorry, I've _never_ used a modem. :-/
[08:05] <yapyccky_> madsen : :-( thx anyway...
[08:05] <mike_douglas> and @ around inline code
[08:06] <cahoone> but I still can't find another video editor or I don't the names of that apps
[08:06] <madsen> mike_douglas: Sounds a little like some red-cloth or whatever it's called...
[08:06] <var> yapyccky_: modem issue ?
[08:06] <cahoone> or I don't know the names of that apps I mean
[08:06] <yapyccky_> var: ?
[08:06] <alekz> Hi everyone! can someone tell me how to have simultaneus sounds on several opened apps ? i installed ALSA and i choose it in my Multimedia System Selector but i can have sound on Firefox while im using amaroK.
[08:07] <nalioth> cahoone: cinepaint
[08:07] <xfelon> hmm
[08:07] <xfelon> do i need to  reboot for it to recognize the printer?
[08:07] <xfelon> its not working
[08:07] <nalioth> cahoone: did you search synaptic for 'video' or 'editing'
 yapyccky_: Sorry, I've _never_ used a modem. :-/ <---- that.  i missed where it came from, and was asking if you have a modem issue.
[08:07] <mike_douglas> madsen: textile, of course. thanks a lot.
[08:07] <xfelon> Printing: open device failed; will retry in 30 seconds...
[08:07] <cahoone> with video editor it gives me only kino
[08:08] <yapyccky_> var: yes, my ubuntu doesnt recognize my modem , and i dunno how to do
[08:08] <phasegen> nalioth: thank you for the help a couple of hours ago since then I've installed breezy and updated it.  thanks again, and goodnight
[08:08] <cahoone> but I saw the cinepaint there
[08:08] <madsen> mike_douglas: Oh, right, it's called textile... Red-cloth just parses it. :)
[08:08] <EviLBorF_> How can I list the currently logged in users?
[08:08] <mike_douglas> I was thinking one of the older *roff derivatives. Doesn't say much for textile :P
[08:08] <madsen> EviLBorF_: 'who'
[08:08] <var> yapyccky_: is it a winmodem ?
[08:09] <cahoone> can I add music to my movie with cinepaint? (kino can't add audio)
[08:09] <ubenguin> dooglus: just wanted to let you know it worked
[08:09] <EviLBorF_> thx madsen.  My hard drive was goin crazy for some reason on my ubuntu server.  I am the only one logged in, and it shouldn't be accessible from the outside world, at least not in any publicized way.  Any idea what could be goin on?
[08:09] <cahoone> I thought cinepaint was only for special effects
[08:09] <var> if it is not a winmodem yapyccky_ it will be /dev/ttyS[0-4]     but if it is a winmodem, you probably wont be able to use it with linux.
[08:09] <madsen> EviLBorF_: updatedb perhaps...
[08:10] <nalioth> cahoone: search sourceforge.net
[08:10] <ubenguin> dooglus: I just had to install the linux-image deb and it generated the initrd and ran grub automagically
[08:10] <EviLBorF_> madsen: updatedb?
[08:10] <madsen> EviLBorF_: Try 'top' and see if 'find' is consuming a lot of resources.
[08:10] <cahoone> ok, nalioth
[08:10] <nekostar> hey btw
[08:10] <madsen> EviLBorF_: Yeah, it indexes everything, so you can use 'locate' to search for it fast. (WAY faster than with 'find'.)
[08:11] <bob2> Orborde: not terrible, but I don't know why you would; you're only going to be running the binary things in there anyway
[08:11] <nekostar> nalioth, if anyone wants to get dual monitor support going
[08:11] <nekostar> using a nvidia card
[08:11] <var> yapyccky_: wvdial's wvdialconf is really good at finding and configuring modems.
[08:11] <nekostar> and not use the single screen thing so you can maximize things on each
[08:11] <EviLBorF_> madsen: Is that something that ubuntu automatically does?  I haven't told it to do anything like that.
[08:11] <nekostar> ive got the most wonderful link
[08:11] <cahoone> i wanted to use Synaptics because it's excellent, but I'll download a tarball then
[08:11] <nekostar> this should be on the bot somewhere for darn sure
[08:11] <nekostar> b/c its the only thing that was close to right
[08:11] <Orborde> bob2: Well, for stuff like passwd or whatever. But yeah, I see your point.
[08:11] <nekostar> and it was perfect
[08:12] <madsen> EviLBorF_: Yeah, I think all linux distros does that. (My server (plain Debian) does it at 6:30am every day.)
[08:12] <EviLBorF_> ok.  that would probably be it then.
[08:12] <madsen> EviLBorF_: Try 'top' and see if 'find' is running.
[08:12] <nekostar> http://www.glawing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14  <<--- that be the pimp shit !!
[08:12] <var> cron jobs
[08:13] <dabaR> bob2: why is all my sound linked, like xine and totem, and xmms?
[08:13] <nekostar> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7938&highlight=dual+monitor+nvidia  <<--- its in the last post on the ubuntu forums there :)
[08:13] <dabaR> bob2: if I turn it down in one, it gets turned down in the other two.
[08:13] <cahoone> thanks a lot and see you around
[08:13] <EviLBorF_> madsen: doesn't appear to be, however my hard drive isn't going nuts anymore.
[08:13] <bob2> dabaR: that's how sound works
[08:13] <bob2> dabaR: youre altering your mixer setting
[08:13] <bob2> s
[08:13] <dabaR> didnt before breezy
[08:13] <madsen> EviLBorF_: Sounds a lot like updatedb. :)
[08:14] <var> dabaR: ?
[08:14] <dabaR>  if I turn it down volume in one media player, it gets turned down in the other two.
[08:15] <EviLBorF_> madsen: doesn't say that update db is running, and when I run who it only shows me logged in
[08:15] <nekostar> now with that all wonderful, ive a totally stupid question... whats the name of the screenshot thing in gnome? i dont seem to have it this time around for some reason >.<
[08:15] <var> it does that here dabaR
[08:15] <madsen> EviLBorF_: Yeah, it's run from cron.
[08:15] <crimsun> nekostar: System> Take Screenshot?
[08:15] <madsen> EviLBorF_: 'man cron'
[08:15] <nekostar> thanx crimsun
[08:15] <var> that is not a breezy thing dabaR
[08:15] <dabaR> crimsun: why is sound like that in breezy?
[08:15] <crimsun> dabaR: -ECONTEXT
[08:15] <EviLBorF_> ok.  thats what i needed.  thanx man
[08:15] <dabaR> does that change it?
[08:16] <madsen> EviLBorF_: np :)
[08:16] <Orborde> bob2: How to I get a 32bit chrooted Firefox to comply with my selected gnome theme?
[08:16] <alekz> Hi everyone! can someone tell me how to have simultaneus sounds on several opened apps ? i installed ALSA and i choose it in my Multimedia System Selector but i can have sound on Firefox while im using amaroK.
[08:16] <bob2> Orborde: run switch2 in the chroot, I guess
[08:16] <Orborde> bob2: switch2?
[08:16] <madsen> alekz: Try choosing esd / Enlightened Sound Daemon instead.
[08:16] <bob2> Orborde: from gtk-theme-switch
[08:17] <crimsun> alekz: you need to install either amarok-xine or amarok-gstreamer, then
[08:17] <madsen> alekz: Oh, sorry... KDE - not my thing... Forget what I just said.
[08:17] <alekz> maddler, i uso gnome
[08:17] <alekz> *use
[08:18] <crimsun> alekz: if you use amarok-xine, as long as you set alsasink for System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink, you'll use ALSA. If you use amarok-gstreamer, you need to configure Amarok> Engine> gstreamer> alsasink.
[08:18] <madsen> alekz: Hmm, I'm not sure if amarok can output to esound, but you can try...
[08:18] <alekz> let me check crimsun thanks :)
[08:18] <madsen> alekz: Listen to crimsun, he's smarter than me. :)
[08:18] <crimsun> s/smarter/more jaded/
[08:18] <var> lol
[08:19] <madsen> crimsun: Nah, you seem to actually know what you talk about. :)
[08:19] <kisielk> crimsun gets around
[08:19] <kisielk> he's everywhere :p
[08:19] <madsen> Arg! Why is my mono b0rked! What did I do to deserve this?!?
[08:20] <Agamotto> Time for me to plod off for sleep
[08:20] <cafuego> madsen: http://www.cafuego.net/melty_kahlua.png
[08:21] <cafuego> Ugh, never mind, /me asleep. mono, not mobo ;-)
[08:21] <PatrikJohansson> cafuego: and he blamed ubuntu :P ^
[08:21] <cafuego> PatrikJohansson:Are you related to Scarlett?
[08:21] <Orborde> bob2: Amazing! A complete system hang! Couldn't even get in by ssh!
[08:22] <bob2> Orborde: by doing what?
[08:22] <topyli> PatrikJohansson: i always blame the system, whatever i'm using. convenient!
[08:22] <Orborde> bob2: Any log file I can check to see what happened?
[08:22] <Orborde> bob2: At the time, I was running a massive apt-get install,
[08:22] <PatrikJohansson> cafuego: ??
[08:22] <PatrikJohansson> topyli: :P
[08:22] <cafuego> PatrikJohansson: Well, are you?
[08:23] <PatrikJohansson> cafuego: who is that?
[08:23] <cafuego> PatrikJohansson: my girlfriend
[08:23] <madsen> PatrikJohansson: I think he means Scarlett Johanson, the actress... From Lost in Translation and others...
[08:23] <PatrikJohansson> cafuego: oh yeah
[08:24] <PatrikJohansson> madsen: oh
[08:24] <Orborde> bob2: What is that switch2 thing you mentioned?
[08:24] <aftertaf> schwing Scarlett J :] 
[08:24] <topyli> johansson must be the most common name in scandinavia :)
[08:24] <PatrikJohansson> madsen, cafuego, no im not, in sweden Johansson is one of the most common names
[08:24] <madsen> PatrikJohansson: I know, I'm danish ('madsen')... :)
[08:25] <PatrikJohansson> madsen: :P
[08:25] <cafuego> PatrikJohansson: Oh well :-)
[08:25] <kisielk> my name is quite uncommon :p
[08:25] <ShotNtheDark> hmmmmm i need me one of those long nicks that makes every post take multi-lines.....
[08:25] <topyli> it would be nice to have a name that's all mine
[08:25] <bob2> Orborde: apt-cache show gtk-theme-switch
[08:26] <kisielk> topyli: mine is pretty close
[08:26] <topyli> like bruford van lightning
[08:26] <kisielk> although I've found about 2 people through google searches with the same name
[08:26] <kisielk> but it's pretty rare heh
[08:27] <PatrikJohansson> kiselki: haha
[08:27] <Orborde> bob2: THanks
[08:27] <madsen> kisielk: Searching for my full name on google will return results on one person... Me...
[08:27] <tomaj> what's your name kisielk?
[08:27] <topyli> kisielk: there's a colleague at my universtity who's my exact namesake. nice confusion
[08:27] <kisielk> tomaj: Kamil Kisiel
[08:27] <tomaj> where u from?
[08:28] <kisielk> originated from Poland
[08:28] <tomaj> is kamil polish?
[08:28] <PatrikJohansson> my website turns up second when googling for "Patrik Johansson" SEO i call it :P
[08:28] <kisielk> it's French
[08:28] <kisielk> Camille
[08:28] <tomaj> i see
[08:28] <kisielk> but Polish spelling
[08:28] <tomaj> lol when i google Tomaj i get some dance instructor guy
[08:28] <tomaj> he looks gay imo
[08:28] <PatrikJohansson> tomaj: haha
[08:29] <tomaj> disgracing my name
[08:29] <kisielk> lol
[08:29] <PatrikJohansson> tomaj: but you cant judge that by looking ???
[08:29] <topyli> hey, the guy's got a career
[08:30] <don> hello
[08:30] <madsen> PatrikJohansson: If you google for "anders k. madsen" the first hit is my HP. ;)
[08:30] <pef> hello
[08:30] <kisielk> heh
[08:30] <don> yes
[08:30] <kisielk> the first 2 pages are all me heh..
[08:30] <kisielk> first my site
[08:30] <tomaj> patrik i wasn't being serious, i dont care about his sexuality as long as he isnt gay
[08:30] <kisielk> then a bunch of mailing lists I posted on
[08:30] <bob2> tomaj: uh, enough
[08:30] <alekz> crimsun, not working :( i only have sound in amaroK and even if a close amaroK i have no sound in firefox, can u help me ?
[08:31] <tomaj> because if he is i cant defend myself if someone says my name is gay
[08:32] <PatrikJohansson> tomaj, if someon who is gay has your name your name is gay ????????????????????
[08:32] <topyli> i get good hits if i use juha k. siltala but without the k. all the biggest hits are for the other guy
[08:32] <gleesond> what is a good tool to manage my partitions. I currently have a NFTS file system that I want to delete and I want to make my /home partition bigger to compensate. Is there a good way to do this?
[08:32] <bob2> gleesond: parted, qtparted, gparted
[08:32] <all4n> gleesond, I find gparted to be good for my usage
[08:32] <bob2> gleesond: make sure you have backupes
[08:32] <gleesond> yes definately
[08:34] <aftertaf> "In a world without walls, who needs gates or windows?"
[08:35] <PatrikJohansson> aftertaf: mmmmm, briliant :D
[08:35] <crimsun> alekz: what did you do?
[08:36] <aftertaf> PatrikJohansson:  i just quote, soemone sent me it in my mail this morning ;)
[08:36] <alekz> crimsun, i set amarok's engine to gstreamer with output alsasink and i set my Defalt Audio Sink to ALSA
[08:36] <PatrikJohansson> aftertaf: still briliant
[08:37] <crimsun> alekz: and you use GNOME, not KDE, correct?
[08:37] <alekz> correct crimsun gnome :)
[08:37] <crimsun> alekz: did you uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup ?
[08:38] <alekz> its unchecked sir :)
[08:38] <crimsun> alekz: cat /proc/asound/modules
[08:38] <alekz> alekz@ubuntu:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules
[08:38] <alekz> 0 snd_intel8x0
[08:38] <crimsun> alekz: is this a fresh install of 5.10?
[08:39] <alekz> yes crimsun 1 week :)
[08:39] <PatrikJohansson> does anyone here have any experience with steam throuhg wine??
[08:39] <crimsun> alekz: and you didn't create an /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc, correct?
[08:39] <alekz> crimsun, it's created
[08:40] <crimsun> alekz: ~/.asoundrc will exist, yes, but did you modify it in any way?
[08:41] <alekz> yes crimsun i edited it
[08:42] <crimsun> alekz: what did you change?
[08:43] <alekz> crimsun, i deleted it and paste some bin that i found in a forum
[08:43] <crimsun> alekz: argh
[08:43] <crimsun> alekz: please don't do that
[08:43] <alekz> :(
[08:43] <alekz> im new :(
[08:43] <alekz> crimsun, how can i correct that ?
[08:43] <crimsun> alekz: please mv ~/.asoundrc ~/.asoundrc.old
[08:44] <crimsun> alekz: then set-default-soundcard 0
[08:44] <alekz> done crimsun
[08:44] <omoore> i've successfully installed ubuntu, configured my wiereless (netgear wg111 usb) nic, now...
[08:44] <omoore> i'd like to reconfigure X to do something more than 800x600...
[08:45] <frank23> !tell omoore about fixres
[08:45] <omoore> during the install, it did ask me what resolutions i wanted to enable.. i did enable 1024x768 and 1152x768 but after rebooting, those are not available...
[08:45] <omoore> k
[08:45] <threeseas> hehe, trying to install ipython and there are two deb to install, each of which is has a depend on the other... meaning its got a catch 22 disease
[08:45] <crimsun> alekz: please confirm that your ~/.asoundrc looks like http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3588
[08:45] <alekz> let me check crimsun
[08:46] <alekz> crimsun, it's the same :)
[08:46] <nalioth> threeseas: at the risk of the shingles flying off of your house, you can force it
[08:46] <crimsun> alekz: good, now log out of and back into GNOME, then test amarok again
[08:46] <ShotNtheDark> omoore   maybe this will help you.  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "
[08:46] <threeseas> you mean it might explode?
[08:46] <nadia> I'd like to connect to my ubuntu box from home using vnc.  I've managed to connect locally.  I've forwarded port 5900 on my router, but can't connect.  Anything I need to check on my ubuntu box?
[08:46] <alekz> crimsun, another think, i made the same with /etc/asound.conf it's now fixed too ?
[08:46] <cool_guy> hello ppl
[08:46] <cool_guy> i am back
[08:47] <nalioth> nadia: from home to where?
[08:47] <nadia> from work to home were my box is.
[08:47] <mae> when will OOo 2.0 final make it into breezy, or will it at all?
[08:47] <Bieleke> nadia, i use realvnc for that
[08:47] <cool_guy> hello bob
[08:47] <ShotNtheDark> cool_guy: did you read "man man "  ?
[08:47] <cool_guy> yeah but
[08:48] <Orborde> What packages provides the nice mouse cursors and whatnot?
[08:48] <cool_guy> there are many things tat i dnt understand:)
[08:48] <cool_guy> i want to ask u a question
[08:48] <nadia> I've got the client on my laptop... I try to connect to my WAN IP.  My router has that WAN IP which then forwards anything on port 5900 to my ubuntu box...  but still no connect..  anyone connect to their box from the net using vnc?
[08:48] <cool_guy> i have real player n y does it hang when i play a video?
[08:48] <alekz> crimsun, or should i paste ~./asoundrc bin to /etc/asound.conf ?
[08:48] <topyli> mae: i doubt they will change the version now that breezy is stable. i'm pretty sure there will be a backport once it hits dapper repositories :)
[08:49] <cool_guy> ??????????????
[08:49] <propagandhi> nadia: according to portforward.com, vnc uses ports 5500,5800,5900 tcp and udp
[08:49] <cool_guy> ne help???
[08:49] <Bieleke> nadia, no idea, i can connect to my home xp box from ubuntu, but haven't tried the other way yet
[08:49] <Bieleke> i think you need a vnc server to run.
[08:50] <madsen> cool_guy: That's like saying "my car doesn't work, what's wrong?"...
[08:50] <crimsun> alekz: rm /etc/asound.conf
[08:50] <nadia> that's a lot of ports...
[08:50] <alekz> ok crimsun
[08:50] <cool_guy> hahaha
[08:50] <cool_guy> comon man
[08:50] <cool_guy> i am new to this
[08:50] <cool_guy> u guys have to help me:)
[08:50] <ShotNtheDark> i know nothing about real player, sorry;  but as for that manpages.  ---> that's ok, as long as you do understand "man <any_command> "  is supposed to explain how to use the named command.... cool_guy
[08:50] <nadia> the vnc server is running on my ubuntu box..  like I said, I can connect from my win xp box to my ubuntu box when I'm inside my network.. when outside... No joy!
[08:50] <madsen> cool_guy: I know, but you gotta be more descriptive... Saying "realplayer doesn't work, what's wrong?" doesn't help us to help you. :)
[08:51] <alekz> crimsun, nothing :( firefox still without sound :(
[08:51] <nalioth> nadia: do you have your external IP?
[08:51] <cool_guy> ok
[08:51] <nadia> I'll try to open up more ports...  see if that helps...
[08:51] <cool_guy> here it is
[08:51] <aftertaf> cool_guy:  and have you tried alternatives to realplayer?
[08:51] <propagandhi> nadia: you have both tcp and udp ports forwared?
[08:51] <nadia> yes.. got external IP
[08:51] <alekz> crimsun, and amaroK is closed :(
[08:51] <cool_guy> the real player hangs
[08:51] <cool_guy> what alternatives?
[08:51] <madsen> cool_guy: Did you install real-player from synaptic/apt? What file were you trying to view?
[08:51] <cool_guy> ne codes or sumthing?
[08:51] <nadia> I tried forwarding port 5900 for both.
[08:51] <cool_guy> a video
[08:51] <Bieleke> nadia, i think you have to accept the connection from outside by the use of a config file ?
[08:51] <cool_guy> a dat file
[08:52] <crimsun> alekz: what are you using to test firefox?
[08:52] <kevin> topyli: as Ubuntu is based on 'sid' and OO2.0 hasn't hit sid, of course it would be in dapper, no?
[08:52] <Bieleke> like hosts.allow or something like that... but i'm lost here
[08:52] <madsen> cool_guy: Huh? What kind of video is that?
[08:52] <alekz> crimsun, lot of pages that have noices like joecartoon.com and otherones
[08:52] <cool_guy> its a video from the vcd
[08:52] <nadia> Bieleke, I heard of that with ssh, don't know which config file... that's what I was hoping some would point me in the right direction.
[08:52] <Bieleke> cool_guy, are you trying to play a DVD ?
[08:52] <cool_guy> no
[08:52] <cool_guy> vcd
[08:52] <crimsun> alekz: are they Flash-based, or...?
[08:52] <alekz> yes crimsun
[08:52] <crimsun> alekz: you can't test Flash + ALSA reliably.
[08:53] <Bieleke> cool_guy, have you installed the w32codecs ?
[08:53] <aftertaf> cool_guy:  use xine then
[08:53] <cool_guy> i cant play ne mpeg or mpg format videos
[08:53] <aftertaf> !tell cool_guy about w32codecs
[08:53] <alekz> crimsun, then how can i have flash sound ?
[08:53] <logikal>  I want to get my USB headset working, how do i go about this?
[08:53] <topyli> kevin: OOo2 was updoaded to unstable three days ago, but since it changes the naming scheme, it's still waiting for approval from FTP masters
[08:53] <madsen> logikal: Tried plugging it in?
[08:53] <logikal> I did
[08:53] <crimsun> alekz: you can install the alsa-oss package, then try ''aoss firefox''
[08:53] <logikal> its plugged in
[08:54] <logikal> SHould I unplug my other thingy?
[08:54] <alekz> let me try crimsun
[08:54] <madsen> logikal: What does 'dmesg | tail' say? (pastebin.com or other)
[08:54] <cool_guy> i cant play mp3 on the player instead it play only ogg vorbis
[08:54] <aftertaf> cool_guy:  read the link ubotu sent you
[08:54] <cool_guy> i cant sit n convert all the mp3 files that i have into ogg
[08:54] <madsen> !tell cool_guy about restricted formats
[08:54] <cool_guy> what can i do for that
[08:54] <aftertaf> cool_guy:  read the link ubotu sent you
[08:54] <cool_guy> do i get ne codecs for tat?
[08:55] <logikal> oined #ubuntu
[08:55] <madsen> cool_guy: Read the links... Believe me, it's what you're looking for.
[08:55] <cool_guy> ok
[08:55] <logikal> http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/404970
[08:55] <cool_guy> i will
[08:55] <logikal> tgere
[08:55] <cool_guy> i will meet u later
[08:55] <cool_guy> thanx for the  help guys
[08:55] <cool_guy> :)
[08:55] <logikal> I need to be able to switch from this headset to speakers
[08:55] <logikal> often too
[08:56] <alekz> crimsun, alsa-oss is already the newest version and i have not noice in firefox :(
[08:56] <crimsun> alekz: I'll warn you that the sound quality is going to be subpar
[08:56] <crimsun> alekz: it works fine for me (just tested homestarrunner)
[08:56] <madsen> logikal: Looks like it actually detected the stuff and loaded a driver for it... That's a good start...
[08:57] <davidbro> I have had to revert to Hoary - too many problems upgrading - tried various ways!  I cannot connect to the Haory reposiotories to update Hoary - are they not available, or is there a problem with my set up?
[08:57] <alekz> not working for me crimsun :(
[08:57] <madsen> Anyone else experiences Mono being absolutely fubar?
[08:57] <logikal> What should I do next maddler
[08:57] <logikal> madsen
[08:57] <PatrikJohansson> does anyone here have any experience with steam throuhg wine??
[08:57] <madsen> logikal: What have you tried already?
[08:57] <logikal> xmms
[08:57] <madsen> PatrikJohansson: I saw a guide on that somewhere... Try googling for it.
[08:57] <logikal> I want to use teamspeak
[08:57] <alekz> any idea crimsun ?
[08:57] <logikal> and this headset has a MIC
[08:58] <madsen> logikal: Heh, ok... Well, try 'ls /dev/dsp*'
[08:58] <madsen> logikal: Should give you either 1 or two devices.
[08:58] <logikal> logikal@linuxbox:~$ ls /dev/dsp*
[08:58] <logikal> /dev/dsp  /dev/dsp1
[08:59] <julius> canal de espaol?
[08:59] <madsen> logikal: K, I would think /dev/dsp1 is your headset then... But how on _earth_ you get that going...
[08:59] <crimsun> alekz: do two simultaneous instances of aplay work?
[08:59] <madsen> !tell julius about #ubuntu-es
[08:59] <logikal> :(
[08:59] <eliphas_> morning
[08:59] <julius> thanks
[08:59] <alekz> crimsun, just amaroK works :()
[09:00] <Bieleke> nadia, there some pasting from google
[09:00] <Bieleke> Try using a different VNC server.
[09:00] <Bieleke> I recommend the package vnc4server to share virtual desktops:
[09:00] <Bieleke> sudo apt-get vnc4server
[09:00] <PatrikJohansson> madsen, yeah i have read alot of guides for it, i just wanted to hear how it worked for people... if its not just playable but if its worth playing through wine..
[09:00] <madsen> logikal: Don't worry, I think it's pretty trivial. :) Should be, at least.
[09:00] <madsen> PatrikJohansson: Oh, sorry then. :)
[09:00] <agt> You know when you run, say, Synaptic and it pops up a box for the root password... whats the package that does that.. ?
[09:00] <ShotNtheDark> madsen: prolly not.    dsp1  should be either dsp2 or some sd*
[09:00] <madsen> agt: gksu
[09:01] <agt> thx
[09:01] <crimsun> alekz: you need to test 2+ instances of aplay from the Terminal
[09:01] <PatrikJohansson> madsen, np ;)
[09:01] <madsen> ShotNtheDark: Come again, you lost me there...
[09:01] <alekz> crimsun, ok let me try
[09:01] <madsen> agt: It's mostly gksu I think, sometimes it looks a bit different I think, but that might be gksu too... (?)
[09:02] <ShotNtheDark> dsp1 will be on the sound card it's self i think.  and didn't logikal say "usb" ?
[09:02] <logikal> Yes?
[09:02] <logikal> I have 2 things going.
[09:02] <madsen> ShotNtheDark: He did, but unless he has two soundcards, what could /dev/dsp1 be?
[09:02] <logikal> One is onboard nvidia sound
[09:03] <logikal> and the other is a USB device, which is kinda it's own soundcard.
[09:03] <madsen> ShotNtheDark: It also loaded snd-usb-audio for it...
[09:03] <cool_guy> ppl is there ne good games forlinux?
[09:03] <ShotNtheDark> madsen: i have only one sound card and nothing else and dsp & dsp1 is my sound card.
[09:03] <cool_guy> i need sum to play
[09:03] <madsen> cool_guy: wesnoth is pretty cool... Nexuiz (nexuiz.com) is quite cool too. :)
[09:03] <cool_guy> with good graphics n
[09:04] <cool_guy> where do we get it?
[09:04] <aftertaf> !equivalents
[09:04] <ubotu> equivalents is, like, A decent list of linux equivalents and analogues can be found here: http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml#1
[09:04] <madsen> ShotNtheDark: Weird... You don't have a built in modem? (That can act as a soundcard too.)
[09:04] <cool_guy> do we get games as we get in windows?
[09:04] <ShotNtheDark> madsen: no
[09:04] <Bieleke> cool_guy, don't worry be happy
[09:04] <madsen> cool_guy: Seriously... Open up synaptic, search for 'games' and start choosing...
[09:04] <Bieleke> cool_guy, did you installed w32codecs ?
[09:04] <ShotNtheDark> it's just the sound card.
[09:04] <cool_guy> not the built in games guys
[09:05] <madsen> ShotNtheDark: Weirdness...
[09:05] <topyli> cool_guy: yes, we have lots of games. but they are not the same games of course
[09:05] <cool_guy> i want games like u know the 1 we play in windows/
[09:05] <alekz> crimsun, it's now working bro thank u so much u are a wizard :)
[09:05] <crimsun> alekz: amarok and aoss firefox?
[09:05] <threeseas> dpkg -force focre use the force luke
[09:05] <topyli> cool_guy: it would help if you told us which game you're talking about
[09:05] <alekz> crimsun, yes sir :)
[09:05] <crimsun> alekz: excellent.
[09:05] <aftertaf> cool_guy:  do you even reply when people ask you questions?
[09:05] <cool_guy> yes man
[09:06] <Bieleke> aftertaf, seems not :-)
[09:06] <cool_guy> comon i have to think
[09:06] <madsen> cool_guy: Would you please just understand that almost anything in Ubuntu is installed in synaptic... That windows-mentality where you find stuff all over the net is a thing of the past... (Or a MS-thing at least.)
[09:06] <cool_guy> :)
[09:06] <alekz> crimsun, is so fuc**** excellent :P well time to sleep i have 2 exams 2morow c ya thanks :)
[09:06] <davidbro> Is there a problem with the Hoary repositories?  I can't connect to them
[09:06] <cool_guy> ok man i understand
[09:06] <crimsun> alekz: g'luck
[09:06] <threeseas> who's got the secret decoder ring on how to use the force in dpkg?
[09:06] <aftertaf> lol Bieleke :)
[09:06] <alekz> crimsun, 10x :)
[09:06] <madsen> cool_guy: You can find wesnoth in synaptic, you can see screenshots of it on wesnoth.org
[09:06] <crimsun> threeseas: dpkg(1) does
[09:06] <bob2> davidbro: paste the error to #flood
[09:06] <cool_guy> i told u i am new to this so i need to know wat stuffs are in linux rite?
[09:06] <madsen> threeseas: dpkg --force-help
[09:07] <cool_guy> ok let me tell u the name of the games
[09:07] <aftertaf> cool_guy:  just about anything is in there.... discovering is part of the fun too.
[09:07] <madsen> cool_guy: Yeah, but it doesn't hurt _trying_ to find out a little bit for yourself... E.g. reading some short introduction to Ubuntu...
[09:07] <cool_guy> ne thing like ut or nfs
[09:07] <topyli> cool_guy: UT works iirc
[09:07] <cool_guy> ok man i will surely try to learn the most part of it
[09:08] <cool_guy> it takes time u know?
[09:08] <cool_guy> :)
[09:08] <cool_guy> where do we get those games
[09:08] <topyli> what is nfs?
[09:08] <cool_guy> ne site
[09:08] <cool_guy> need for speed
[09:08] <cool_guy> :)
[09:08] <madsen> cool_guy: I know, I spent 2 years just learning, before I felt capable of doing weird stuff on my own...
[09:08] <dooglus> does anyone know how to use "Xnest"?
[09:08] <ShotNtheDark> madsen: on this DSL distro with one sound card and a modem i have dsp dsp1 dsp2 dsp3   no usb anything so i still think that you need to look in /dev/usb/  or possably even /dev/sd*    but  after all "check my nick"
[09:08] <threeseas> dpkg --force-help doesn't help... maybe if I force it :)
[09:08] <frans-th> hi all
[09:08] <cool_guy> i would like to ask u ppl 1 more thing:)
[09:09] <dooglus> I see a new, nested X screen, with display ":1", but it won't let me sent it any windows.
[09:09] <cool_guy> i have a multi boot system
[09:09] <frans-th> i want to join to the ddrake of ubuntu development ep the branding
[09:09] <frans-th> know where to find?
[09:09] <madsen> ShotNtheDark: lol, I don't know then...
[09:09] <cool_guy> with win 2000 n win xp n ubuntu
[09:09] <topyli> frans-th: #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel
[09:09] <crimsun> madsen: / ShotNtheDark: what's the issue?
[09:09] <madsen> threeseas: lol!
[09:09] <cool_guy> when i installed ubuntu to a free space in the hard disk
[09:09] <ShotNtheDark> usb headset
[09:09] <cool_guy> i will not be able to boot in to the xp
[09:10] <nnonix> What's the best way to get cpu temp, fan speed, motherboard stat info in Ubuntu?
[09:10] <cool_guy> it says that hal.dll is missing or sum shit
[09:10] <cool_guy> io hate to c that
[09:10] <crimsun> ShotNtheDark: what about it?
[09:10] <topyli> cool_guy: you can boot win2k but not xp?
[09:10] <ShotNtheDark> device file/inode
[09:10] <cool_guy> yes
[09:10] <threeseas> this ipython advanced python shell needs to be installed in order to install it
[09:10] <cool_guy> thats rite:)
[09:10] <madsen> crimsun: logikal has one and we can't help him make it work...
[09:10] <topyli> cool_guy: how did you dual boot the windows versions previously?
[09:10] <crimsun> ShotNtheDark: why are you worry about the dev node? You shouldn't access it directly ever.
[09:10] <crimsun> worrying^
[09:11] <madsen> crimsun: http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/404970 <- output from dmesg when he plugs the headset in.
[09:11] <aftertaf> cool_guy:  hal.dll isnt on the mbr, so lilo wont have killed it.... i dont think. i dual XP/ubuntu no pbs
[09:11] <cool_guy> i just started the system it asked for the booting options i then used to enter either 1 of the systems
[09:11] <madsen> crimsun: I started the /dev-talk because I asked if /dev/dsp1 existed.
[09:11] <cool_guy> then what can i do?
[09:11] <aftertaf> cool_guy:  sounds like a repair from xp cd is needed, but doont touch the mbr.
[09:11] <ShotNtheDark> non-sense......   but it isn't me anyway crimsun it is logikal
[09:11] <cool_guy> how do i repair it?
[09:11] <crimsun> logikal: cat /proc/asound/modules
[09:12] <Bieleke> nadia, still there ?
[09:12] <cool_guy> without touching the mbr
[09:12] <cool_guy> ..................
[09:12] <topyli> cool_guy: maybe you will have to add xp to win2k's boot loader. so you can choose linux/windows with grub and if you boot windows you have another choice =)
[09:12] <logikal> 0 snd_intel8x0
[09:12] <logikal> 1 snd_usb_audio
[09:12] <cool_guy> how can i add??
[09:12] <madsen> logikal: Hehe, crimsun knows his stuff. :) You're in good hands.
[09:12] <topyli> oh, i don't know how windows boots
[09:12] <cool_guy> i tried to fixboot n fixmbr in thre be
[09:12] <logikal> yeah he does lol
[09:13] <crimsun> logikal: so choose the USB headset using System> Preferences> Sound> Default sound card
[09:13] <cool_guy> but no go:(
[09:13] <logikal> I just loaded the intel8x0 module the other day
[09:13] <logikal> defualt?
[09:13] <logikal> hunh
[09:13] <cool_guy> ?????
[09:13] <cool_guy> what can i do?
[09:13] <madsen> logikal: LOL! I said it'd be trivial... You just have to know where to go...
[09:13] <aftertaf> cool_guy:  fixmbr will kill grub. boot to 2K and edit its bootloader to add XP.
[09:13] <cool_guy> now i can only load win 2000 n ubuntu
[09:13] <cool_guy> i cant get into xp
[09:13] <crimsun> logikal: are you in GNOME or KDE?
[09:13] <dooglus> which repository is ut in?
[09:14] <cool_guy> ok
[09:14] <logikal> KDE
[09:14] <cool_guy> thats it?
[09:14] <logikal> I go to system settings > Personal > Sound and Multimedia
[09:14] <cool_guy> but what bout the hal.dll stufrf?
[09:14] <aftertaf> cool_guy:  worth trying.... and google around for hal.dll
[09:14] <crimsun> logikal: that's for GNOME
[09:14] <cool_guy> ok
[09:14] <logikal> I go to system settings > Personal > Sound and Multimedia
[09:14] <logikal> Im there
[09:14] <cool_guy> i have another problem
[09:14] <logikal> Under the tab Hardware
[09:14] <cool_guy> i have a hard disk of 80 gb
[09:14] <logikal> SELECT THE AUDIO DEVICE ->
[09:14] <madsen> crimsun: Any way to make the box output mono sound? (Don't ask.)
[09:14] <logikal> dwhat do i sleect?
[09:15] <cool_guy> i have totally 2 primary partitions
[09:15] <madsen> logikal: What can you choose from?
[09:15] <cool_guy> i donno how that happened
[09:15] <logikal> Open sound
[09:15] <logikal> ALSA
[09:15] <logikal> Enlightened sound domain
[09:15] <madsen> logikal: Huh? That's sound-system, not sound cards...
[09:15] <cool_guy> i want to convert one of the primary partitions into the logical partitions
[09:15] <logikal> Netowrk audio
[09:15] <cool_guy> how can i do that?
[09:15] <threeseas> hehehe..... its like getting your first drivers car.. gotta have car insurance before you can buy it and you can't get insurance untill you have a car
[09:15] <logikal> OH lol
[09:15] <logikal> where do i need to go
[09:15] <threeseas> Sombody has to lie
[09:15] <Bieleke> cool_guy, partition magic
[09:15] <ShotNtheDark> cool_guy: up to 4 primary partitions is not a problem.
[09:15] <threeseas> And I figured out how to lie to ipython
[09:16] <madsen> logikal: Don't know, I haven't used KDE since kde 2.2 I think...
[09:16] <logikal> wow lol
[09:16] <cool_guy> but cant i convert a primary partition into a logical drive?
[09:16] <logikal> I love KDE
[09:16] <Bieleke> logikal, you're nuts (just kidding)
[09:16] <cool_guy> can i?
[09:16] <topyli> kde was ok when gnome was at version 1 and sucked. after gnome 1.2, i haven't really used kde :)
[09:16] <madsen> threeseas: Can you lie to my Mono and perhaps make it think that it works?
[09:16] <ShotNtheDark> yeah probably cool_guy but working with partitions is always a good place wipe out data....
[09:17] <cool_guy> comon man dnt say that
[09:17] <cool_guy> i have precious data on my disk n i dnt want that to be deleted
[09:17] <threeseas> it wanted a version for python 2.3 installed.. so I tried and then synaptic told me I had a proken package --- ipython for python 2.3 (2.4 is whats installed)
[09:17] <cool_guy> i will tell u the order of the drives i have
[09:17] <madsen> cool_guy: Then don't mess with the partition tables.
[09:17] <aftertaf> burn it then.... but dont touch if you're not sure what you're doing either....
[09:17] <Bieleke> cool_guy, do you actually READ what ppl tell you ???
[09:17] <cool_guy> try to tell me what i can do bout that
[09:17] <topyli> cool_guy: you probably can't do that non-destructively
[09:17] <PatrikJohansson> well crap, now i have to go to school :(, and btw gnome is much nicer than kde imo.
[09:17] <logikal> crimsun, do you know?
[09:17] <crimsun> madsen: yes, you need to edit your ~/.asoundrc and create a stanza using softvol. The directive you want is "count 1".
[09:18] <Bieleke> PatrikJohansson, i agree :-)
[09:18] <ShotNtheDark> topyli: like you said that was when kde was "ok"  now it is pretty kewl.
[09:18] <madsen> crimsun: Awesome! Thanks! :)
[09:18] <cool_guy> i will read what ppl tell me
[09:18] <Kruzr|ZZZ> guys, how do I change my default network configuration to A) not be DHCP B) be whatever IP, router, and DNS settings I want them to be?  bear in mind I have no graphical environment installed on this machine.
[09:18] <cool_guy> but i need more info
[09:18] <aftertaf> bunch of trollers.......
[09:18] <topyli> ShotNtheDark: i'm sure it works these days
[09:18] <PatrikJohansson> bieleke, about school or gnome? :D
[09:18] <cool_guy> the more u learn the better u will be rite?
[09:18] <aftertaf> Kruzr|ZZZ:  you edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:18] <Bieleke> PatrikJohansson, gnome :-)
[09:18] <PatrikJohansson> haha
[09:18] <crimsun> logikal: select ALSA
[09:18] <threeseas> so I used synaptic to remove the broken package and it decided to configure the two packages of ipython for p[ython 2.4
[09:18] <Kruzr|ZZZ> aftertaf: that includes DNS configuration?
[09:18] <logikal> it's selected crimsun
[09:19] <aftertaf> dns conf is in resolv.conf iirc
[09:19] <Kruzr|ZZZ> okay.
[09:19] <threeseas> I now have ipython for python 2.4 working
[09:19] <Kruzr|ZZZ> many thanks.
[09:19] <crimsun> logikal: there should be a text entry field or a dropdown menu for device
[09:19] <aftertaf> Kruzr|ZZZ:  YW :)
[09:19] <logikal> Overrde device location
[09:19] <logikal> ?
[09:19] <logikal> and it has a text box
[09:20] <threeseas> morall of the story: when in a catch 22 situation make it worse so to collapse it upon itself and go away
[09:20] <crimsun> logikal: yes, in it type hw:1,0
[09:20] <cool_guy> c drive(primary)(win2000)  :  [Extended (d drive(logical)(winxp) : e drive(logical) : f drive(logical) : g drive(logical) : h drive
[09:20] <cool_guy> (logical)
[09:20] <cool_guy> n then is another primary partition
[09:20] <topyli> uh-oh. i've configured my nightly backup cron job for 10AM it seems
[09:20] <crimsun> logikal: you should of course match it with the output from ''cat /proc/asound/devices''
[09:20] <crimsun> (don't paste here)
[09:21] <cool_guy> i have a primary partition before the extended partitions that is at the beginning n another at the end of the extended partitions
[09:21] <logikal> I put in
[09:21] <logikal> hw:1,0
[09:21] <threeseas> it 3:20am and I get up for work at 5:45am ... should I go to sleep?
[09:21] <benkong2_> hey folks anyway to force synaptic to install 0.14 version of rails?
[09:21] <logikal> restarted
[09:21] <logikal> and it doesnt work
[09:21] <cool_guy> i am not pasting
[09:21] <cool_guy> i am typing all these
[09:21] <logikal> I still hear sound from the onboard
[09:21] <benkong2_> threeseas; naw just take a power nap
[09:21] <cool_guy> so that i can give u more accurate info of my problem
[09:21] <ShotNtheDark> cool_guy: i see nothing wrong with that setup....
[09:21] <MojOrow_> how do i use putty to copy files to and from my lin box
[09:21] <crimsun> logikal: did you log out of and back into KDE?
[09:21] <logikal> nope
[09:21] <logikal> should I?
[09:22] <cool_guy> ohhh
[09:22] <cool_guy> then is that ok???
[09:22] <threeseas> whats a power nap?
[09:22] <topyli> MojOrow_: there's another tool called pscp for that
[09:22] <cool_guy> what happens if i install a new os in the last primary partition that is at the end of all the other drives?
[09:22] <ShotNtheDark> primary and extended partitions can be in any order. yes cool_guy.
[09:22] <aftertaf> threeseas:  where you stop typing for 10 mins and let a screensaver soothe your eyes... )
[09:22] <threeseas> :)
[09:23] <madsen> cool_guy: then your new os will probably run just fine...
[09:23] <threeseas> that sounds more like a power down nap
[09:23] <cool_guy> ok
[09:23] <cool_guy> but i have booting problems
[09:23] <aftertaf> cool_guy:  this is further than ubuntu help..... you need to learn some stuff about your pc as well dude...
[09:23] <benkong2_> any ruby on rails setup folk hereh?
[09:23] <madsen> cool_guy: Unless it's windows98...
[09:23] <cool_guy> i cant get into another os if i install a new os
[09:23] <cool_guy> no not win98
[09:24] <cool_guy> i use xp n 2000
[09:24] <madsen> benkong2_: I'm sure there are some on #rails or #ruby. :)
[09:24] <cool_guy> i have lot of booting problems
[09:24] <threeseas> gnite
[09:24] <cool_guy> i feel like breaking the whole system sumtimes:)
[09:24] <Bieleke> cool_guy, you screwed it yourself by running fixmbr
[09:24] <madsen> cool_guy: Seriously, google for "dual boot linux windows" - that will give you everything (and more) on the topic.
[09:24] <benkong2_> madsen; thanks I have a synaptic problem about repos and rails version i'll ask though
[09:24] <aftertaf> cool_guy:  it might be a good idea to sart afresh. why dualboot with xp & 2000 anyway?
[09:24] <topyli> cool_guy: so tell your boot loader about all your operating systems. look at the win2k stanza in /boot/grub/menu.lst and create one for xp
[09:25] <MojOrow_> topyli all i have right about now is putty
[09:25] <MojOrow_> r
[09:25] <madsen> benkong2_: Oh, it wasn't because I'd mind you asking here - I just thought you'd get better help on #rails or #ruby-lang. :)
[09:25] <logikal> Ok
 wgar is that???
[09:25] <logikal> it works!
[09:25] <logikal> How do i switch back to regular sound tho?
[09:25] <topyli> MojOrow_: you need pscp from the putty home site
[09:25] <cool_guy> i mean what is that?
[09:25] <crimsun> logikal: reverse what you did.
[09:25] <ShotNtheDark> grub/lilo will tell the bios to boot which ever partition you select, cool_guy no problemo.  the booting problem is problably that the xp partition is not active or not bootable for some reason.... you should work out that issue and then reinstall grub or lilo which ever you use.
[09:25] <cool_guy> can u tell that to me in a more accurate way??
[09:25] <MojOrow_> topyli, i have already logged on i am just wonderong what i should do next
[09:25] <logikal> wait
[09:25] <logikal> I still hear things on my speakers
[09:25] <logikal> :(((
[09:25] <MojOrow_> topyli, oh ok
[09:25] <madsen> cool_guy: GOOGLE! FFS!!!
[09:26] <topyli> cool_guy: not really, i told you exactly what to do :)
[09:26] <benkong2_> madsen; ok I just need to know if I can force version 0.14 instead of 0.13 that's in the repos
[09:26] <MojOrow_> topyli, where will i need it on both computers or just the sending or recieving compy
[09:26] <crimsun> logikal: you will if those applications are hardcoded to use a specific device
 do i have to do that in ubuntu??
[09:26] <topyli> MojOrow_: you just need that on the windows client
[09:26] <cool_guy> cuz its like /boot/grub/menu
[09:26] <madsen> benkong2_: Huh? If there aren't packages for 0.14, then you'll have to do a manual install - like described on rubyonrails.org (or something).
[09:27] <cool_guy> do i have to edit the file?
[09:27] <topyli> cool_guy: it's easiest, yes
[09:27] <MojOrow_> topyli, ok i'll be back in a minute with my results
[09:27] <topyli> cool_guy: of course
[09:27] <cool_guy> ok
[09:27] <benkong2_> madsen; ok
[09:27] <cool_guy> i wil.l edit it with the editor n then what do i have to add?
[09:27] <logikal> crimsum
[09:27] <logikal> can we get my mic working too?
[09:27] <madsen> !tell cool_guy about google
[09:27] <topyli> cool_guy: please search the web for examples. i have no idea how to boot windows
[09:28] <cool_guy> no
[09:28] <cool_guy> u said to look at the win2k stanza in /boot/grub/menu.lst and create one for xp
[09:28] <cool_guy> is there ne thing in that
[09:28] <topyli> right
[09:28] <cool_guy> like ne configuration
[09:28] <cool_guy> ne text part?
[09:29] <Bieleke> title           Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[09:29] <Bieleke>    root            (hd0,0)
[09:29] <Bieleke>    savedefault
[09:29] <Bieleke> makeactive
[09:29] <Bieleke> chainloader     +1
[09:29] <ShotNtheDark> cool_guy: "man grub "
[09:29] <Bieleke> cool_guy
[09:29] <cool_guy> ok
[09:29] <cool_guy> then
[09:29] <topyli> it's a text file for $deity's sake
[09:29] <cool_guy> what can i do there?
[09:29] <Bieleke> change hd0,0 to the right partition
[09:29] <cool_guy> like?
[09:29] <logikal> crimsun, how can we get my Microphone working?
[09:30] <crimsun> logikal: is it set to be the default device?
[09:30] <logikal> not sure?
[09:30] <Bieleke> cool_guy, well if you installed ubunty while xp was on it, then hd0,0 should be ok imho
[09:30] <madsen> logikal: You got the headphones working?
[09:30] <logikal> no
[09:30] <logikal> kinda
[09:30] <topyli> cll.
[09:30] <logikal> i heard a sound when kde started
[09:30] <ShotNtheDark> well the example just posted "is an example" you will have to change the (hd0,0) to your correct xp partition's address
[09:30] <topyli> cool_guy: you're the only one who knows where your xp installation is
[09:31] <Bieleke> :-)
[09:31] <cool_guy> rite
[09:31] <cool_guy> ok so if its its on the second partition
[09:31] <ShotNtheDark> fdisk -l will help you with that...
[09:31] <cool_guy> then?
[09:31] <logikal> I hate linux
[09:31] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:31] <Bieleke> hd0,1
[09:31] <topyli> cool_guy: and it's a primary partition right?
[09:31] <madsen> logikal: Whoa! Calm down, man...
[09:31] <madsen> logikal: ;)
[09:31] <cool_guy> no
[09:31] <logikal> :(
[09:31] <ShotNtheDark> topyli: probably not
[09:32] <cool_guy> i have xp on logical partition that is the second drive D drive
[09:32] <Bieleke> logikal, usb even suxx on winblows :-) buy you a normal headphone :-)\
[09:32] <topyli> cool_guy: is it on the first disk?
[09:32] <crimsun> logikal: did you answer my question?
[09:32] <madsen> logikal: It's alright, we know that deep down, you didn't really mean it.
[09:32] <madsen> logikal: :-p
[09:32] <cool_guy> no
[09:32] <logikal> what's that?
[09:32] <logikal> Set to defualt device?
[09:32] <logikal> where?
[09:32] <cool_guy> its on D drive thats the second one
[09:32] <logikal> I set it to that hw:1,0
[09:32] <crimsun> logikal: the same menu you were looking at...
[09:32] <Bieleke> cool_guy, second drive or second partition ???
[09:32] <Bieleke> be carefull before you screw everything :-)
[09:32] <logikal> Select the audio device : ALSA
[09:32] <cool_guy> man................
[09:33] <cool_guy> i am a bit confused
[09:33] <Bieleke> so are we :-)
[09:33] <ShotNtheDark> cool_guy: second ntfs/vfat partition.....   use "fdisk -l " to check the addressing
[09:33] <crimsun> logikal: you kinda blindly typed without confirming. I asked you to confirm via output from cat /proc/asound/devices
[09:33] <cool_guy> its on the first partition iof the extended partition
[09:33] <topyli> cool_guy: so, open a terminal and do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb" and see what partitions you have, and which one would be the xp installation
[09:33] <crimsun> (no, don't paste here)
[09:33] <Bieleke> cool_guy, okay, then it is hd0,1
[09:33] <logikal>  18: [0- 2] : digital audio playback
[09:33] <logikal>  25: [0- 1] : digital audio capture
[09:33] <logikal>  16: [0- 0] : digital audio playback
[09:33] <logikal>  24: [0- 0] : digital audio capture
[09:33] <logikal>   0: [0- 0] : ctl
[09:33] <logikal>   1:       : sequencer
[09:33] <madsen> AAAaaarggg!!!
[09:33] <logikal>  33:       : timer
[09:33] <logikal>  48: [1- 0] : digital audio playback
[09:33] <ShotNtheDark> topyli: hda
[09:33] <logikal>  56: [1- 0] : digital audio capture
[09:34] <nalioth> !paste
[09:34] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[09:34] <nalioth> logikal: ^^^^
[09:34] <logikal> im sorry
[09:34] <logikal> I didn't mean to do it
[09:34] <cool_guy> what if the xp is on 3rd partition
[09:34] <topyli> Bieleke: logical partitions start from 5 IIRC, so it would be (0,4) or something. i wouldn't do a thing before checking fdisk
[09:34] <cool_guy> ???
[09:34] <logikal> but crimsun
[09:34] <logikal> what do you think?
[09:35] <Bieleke> topyli, sorry :-( forgive me
[09:35] <cool_guy> then
[09:35] <ShotNtheDark> fdisk -l <----- cool_guy did you do that yet
[09:35] <Bieleke> cool_guy, then the menu option of grub won't work :-)
[09:35] <crimsun> logikal: take a screenshot of that menu for me please.
[09:35] <crimsun> be back in 5 minutes.
[09:35] <topyli> cool_guy: why don't you check? "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda" and you will see for yourself. we can't really see your disk from here
[09:35] <cool_guy> i will try that out
[09:36] <madsen> logikal: I've got a little shell script that pastes to rafb.net/paste if you want it... Then you can just do 'nopaste <file>'. ;)
[09:36] <logikal> How?
[09:37] <ShotNtheDark> madsen: dcc me that puppy  :)
[09:37] <logikal> How do itake a screenie of the menu?
[09:37] <madsen> logikal: Hang on, I'll just use it to paste itself...
[09:37] <Bieleke> logikal, system - screendump
[09:37] <madsen> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ky8FVt91.html <- Nopaste shell script ('nopaste --help' for help.)
[09:38] <topyli> logikal: use "gnome-panel-screenshot --delay 5" -that will give you time to open the menu
[09:38] <madsen> ... requires ruby though...
[09:38] <logikal> http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/4167/snapshot52tw.png
[09:38] <logikal> I'm on KDE
[09:39] <Bieleke> logikal, argh :-) ksnapshot :-)
[09:39] <madsen> logikal: In "Select the audio device", what's there? ALSA, Esound and stuff?
[09:40] <frank23> are the dapper repos up?
[09:40] <madsen> logikal: You probably want 'full duplex' too (if it supports it). :)
[09:40] <logikal> http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/9493/snapshot63ld.png
[09:40] <nalioth> madsen: where is that script used?
[09:40] <frank23> madsen: what is 'full duplex'?
[09:41] <logikal> transmit and recieve sound
[09:41] <logikal> at the same time
[09:41] <madsen> logikal: Yeah, ok, ALSA should be it.
[09:41] <madsen> logikal: Yup.
[09:41] <MojOrow_> topyli,  i am having some trouble
[09:41] <cool_guy> k thanx guys
[09:41] <logikal> I hace alsa selected
[09:41] <cool_guy> thanx for the help
[09:41] <madsen> nalioth: What do you mean?
[09:41] <logikal> alsa
[09:41] <cool_guy> i will do the things that u asked me to do
[09:41] <MojOrow_> topyli,  how exactly am i supposed to go by sending the info
[09:41] <cool_guy> i will check all those stuff n come back to u tomorrrow with new questions:)
[09:41] <cool_guy> thanx fot the halp:)
[09:42] <usuario> Is there copper at Michigan?
[09:42] <topyli> MojOrow_: sorry, i've lost track of you. :) what trouble are you referring to?
[09:42] <nalioth> madsen i'm gettin weird errors with that script
[09:43] <cool_guy> guys 1 more thing
[09:43] <logikal> Ok listen
[09:43] <logikal> for the sound device for the progam
[09:43] <logikal> I used
[09:43] <cool_guy> do we get ne distortion softwares for linux??
[09:43] <logikal> /dev/sfb1
[09:43] <MojOrow_> topyli,  i dont know how i am supposed to send files with pscp
[09:43] <logikal> and it works
[09:43] <Kyynara> http://pastebin.com/404984 could someone tell me why I get so many undefined references
[09:43] <topyli> oh yeah
[09:43] <Kyynara> and it's not the makefile
[09:43] <Kyynara> it has worked for other people
[09:43] <MojOrow_> topyli, i think i am using hte wrong syntax
[09:44] <madsen> nalioth: Like what?
[09:44] <usuario> How many different places are there in the world that make chips?
[09:44] <cool_guy> do we get ne distortion softwares for linux??
[09:44] <madsen> nalioth: I told you it requires ruby...
[09:44] <cool_guy> ne help regarding this???
[09:44] <topyli> MojOrow_: IIRC, you run pscp.exe and use something like scp c:\temp user@host:/tmp
[09:44] <topyli> MojOrow_: but i forget
[09:45] <nalioth> madsen: i have libruby
[09:45] <madsen> nalioth: What errors do you get?
[09:45] <logikal> So
[09:45] <logikal> to change it back
[09:45] <MojOrow_> topyli, i think i am using hte wrong syntax
[09:45] <logikal> all i have to do is
[09:45] <logikal> remove hw:1,0
[09:45] <topyli> MojOrow_: put the files in c:\temp first, windows paths make nasty writing
[09:46] <nalioth> madsen: i issue ./nopaste --help and it hangs
[09:46] <crimsun> logikal: /dev/sfb1?
[09:46] <usuario> What kind of energy is it used to make chips?
[09:46] <MojOrow_> it says connection refused
[09:46] <madsen> nalioth: weird!
[09:46] <MojOrow_> do you have any idea why that may b
[09:47] <nalioth> madsen: what ruby libs are necessary?
[09:47] <madsen> nalioth: What if you run:  ruby -e 'puts "hello world"'  ?
[09:47] <madsen> nalioth: libruby should be enough... And of course the ruby executable.
[09:47] <logikal> not sfb
[09:47] <logikal> whatever it is
[09:47] <topyli> MojOrow_: ssh works and scp doesn't. surely a syntax error
[09:47] <crimsun> /dev/dsp1?
[09:47] <logikal> yes
[09:47] <logikal> it seems to be my headset
[09:47] <crimsun> that's oss, and you won't be able to dmix
[09:47] <logikal> and it is work
[09:48] <nalioth> madsen: can you give me a hint on ruby? which ones (only about 400 rolled by when i searched apt)
[09:48] <logikal> I only hear it in my left ear
[09:48] <logikal> I use kmix
[09:48] <crimsun> then adjust the volume using kmix or alsamixer -c1
[09:48] <madsen> nalioth: You need 'ruby' and 'libruby' and that's it...
[09:48] <topyli> MojOrow_: i don't have a windows box handy so i can't check. in normal ssh clients the syntax is "scp foo user@host:foo
[09:48] <MojOrow_> topyli, right now i have scp then the directory of the files i want to send then the USER@IP:Preferred DEstination directory
[09:48] <nalioth> lemme try again
[09:49] <logikal> alsa mixer doesnt adjust it
[09:49] <madsen> nalioth: what did  ruby -e 'puts "hello world"'  say?
[09:49] <logikal> and neither does kmix
[09:49] <logikal> LOL
[09:49] <topyli> MojOrow_: don't try to send many files at once with pscp. zip the files first and send the archive
[09:49] <MojOrow_> topyli,  where abouts would i go about entering a password
[09:49] <crimsun> logikal: did you type alsamixer -c1 ?
[09:49] <logikal> yep
[09:49] <logikal> it doesnt work.
[09:49] <topyli> MojOrow_: it should ask for it
[09:50] <crimsun> logikal: what error does it give you?
[09:50] <logikal> it works
[09:50] <benplaut> goodnight
[09:50] <logikal> but it doesnt adjust my volume
[09:50] <MojOrow_> topyli, LOL the reason i am sending them to the linux ox is to zip them
[09:50] <agt> How do I change the 'sensible-browser'?
[09:50] <topyli> hehe
[09:50] <crimsun> logikal: then you -must- use kmix to change it
[09:50] <MojOrow_> topyli, it;s 17 gigs of d8a
[09:50] <logikal> kmix doesnt work either.
[09:51] <crimsun> logikal: did you select the right card in kmix?
[09:51] <madsen> agt: System -> Preferences -> Prefered Applications
[09:51] <topyli> MojOrow_: oh. i'd go to nonags.com and search for a proper sftp client for such data
[09:51] <Kyynara> http://pastebin.com/404984 could someone tell me why I get so many undefined references
[09:51] <logikal> Yes crimsun
[09:51] <nalioth> madsen: now i get this, having installed ruby1.8, and libruby1.8 >>> /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory
[09:51] <madsen> nalioth: How's it working out?
[09:51] <logikal> I selected "Logitech USB headset"
[09:51] <logikal> still deosnt do nothing
[09:51] <agt> madsen, any idea how to get there in xfce? :)
[09:52] <logikal> BRB Im going to look for my standalone MIX
[09:52] <crimsun> logikal: does kmix give you an option of "software volume control"?
[09:52] <logikal> MIC
[09:52] <MojOrow_> topyli, when i just type in scp it syas "-r copy directories recursivly" would this help
[09:52] <madsen> nalioth: Oh, maybe try changing that first line to '#!/usr/bin/ruby' instead of '#!/usr/bin/env ruby'...
[09:52] <logikal> nope
[09:52] <madsen> agt: Sorry, no... Never used XFCE.
[09:52] <usuario> Where was Henry Ford born?
[09:52] <topyli> MojOrow_: oh ok, pscp does know how to do that. i thought it was more primitive :)
[09:53] <crimsun> logikal: screenshot of kmix, please
[09:53] <nalioth> madsen: did they not tell you i break things by paying attention to them? >>  bash: ./nopaste: /usr/bin/ruby: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[09:53] <madsen> nalioth: Wtf!?! How did you do that?!?
[09:54] <madsen> nalioth: That's amazing! Almost as fscked up as my Mono installation.
[09:54] <nalioth> madsen: did you write this?
[09:54] <lawrence> Hmm.. I think I made a mistake.. does anyone know how to fix it?
[09:54] <lawrence> here is what I did
[09:54] <madsen> nalioth: Could you (manually) paste the output of 'dpkg -l | grep ruby' somewhere?
[09:54] <MojOrow_> topyli, i am as you have probably guessed very knew to solid command line apps i am wondering where specifically should i insert that command before the directories or at the end of everything
[09:54] <madsen> nalioth: Nope, I didn't.
[09:54] <iceman> Well, can not get Wine to properly run Diablo II, i Launches and then when i attempt to go online, the who thing sreezes ..
[09:54] <lawrence> I went sudo -R username usr
[09:54] <crimsun> nalioth: you need both ruby and ruby1.8 installed
[09:55] <lawrence> now I lose all privileges as root
[09:55] <crimsun> nalioth: ruby is the package that creates /usr/bin/ruby
[09:55] <madsen> crimsun: I thought ruby depended on ruby1.8... (?)
[09:55] <juliux> morning
[09:55] <nalioth> bah!
[09:55] <crimsun> madsen: sure
[09:55] <juliux> does someone knows a groupware which works with evolution as client?
[09:55] <lawrence> could someone please help me?
[09:55] <nalioth> madsen: now with ruby installed, i get syntax errors out the wazoo
[09:55] <madsen> crimsun: Oh, ok, but if he didn't install 'ruby' but just 'ruby1.8'...
[09:55] <MojOrow_> topyli,  gar i put it right after pscp and i am still having no luck
[09:55] <iceman> #winehq
[09:55] <topyli> MojOrow_: if pscp knows wildcards, you can do "scp -r directory user@host:directory". or that's how it should go
[09:56] <madsen> nalioth: Really, paste them! :)
[09:56] <nalioth> madsen: you may have had ruby installed from something else
[09:56] <MojOrow_> topyli,  gar i put it right after pscp and i am still having no luck
[09:56] <MojOrow_> topyli,  gar i put it right after pscp and i am still having no luck
[09:56] <MojOrow_> foor
[09:56] <MojOrow_> fook wrong compy
[09:56] <madsen> nalioth: Nope, I'm running a pretty vanilla Breezy here... Installed it a couple of days ago.
[09:56] <topyli> MojOrow_: i thought you'd use scp in the pcsp window
[09:56] <logikal> Crimsum
[09:56] <logikal> I found a mic
[09:57] <logikal> nevermind
[09:57] <MojOrow_> you are confusing me a little
[09:57] <arbir> hello
[09:57] <topyli> MojOrow_: run pscp.exe and you get another shell window, right?
[09:57] <arbir> what do i do for the hoary-security repository?
[09:57] <arbir> shall i change that to breezy-security?
[09:58] <MojOrow_> topyli, no actually i get a rundown of the commands and then it exits
[09:58] <nalioth> arbir: if you are upgrading to breezy, yes
[09:58] <arbir> yeah yeah i am
[09:58] <madsen> topyli: pscp is straight command-line. :)
[09:58] <arbir> can i just search and replace all hoary with breezy ?
[09:58] <MojOrow_> topyli,  to run somthing with it as far as i see i need to type pscp at the start of the line
[09:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell arbir about upgrade2breezy
[09:58] <topyli> MojOrow_: oh, perhaps you have to use "pscp user@host" and you get an ftp-like shell. i forget
[09:59] <madsen> MojOrow_: 'pscp <source file> <destination>'
[09:59] <arbir> nalioth: i am reading that
[09:59] <arbir> and then i saw more reps than mentioned there
[09:59] <madsen> topyli: No, it's scp, not ftp...
[09:59] <arbir> which is why i asked here @ nalioth
[09:59] <MojOrow_> topyli, when i run pscp only it says...
[10:00] <madsen> MojOrow_: Don't paste here!
[10:00] <topyli> MojOrow_: listen to madsen, he actually sounds like he's used pscp recently :)
[10:00] <nalioth> arbir: follow the wiki, and you'll be fine
[10:00] <arbir> ok nalioth
[10:00] <MojOrow_> topyli, usage pscp {options} {user@}host:source target
[10:00] <madsen> topyli: Not recently - once... A year ago - but I AM used to command lines. ;) (Got 3 terminals on the current desktop.) :)
[10:00] <topyli> there you go
[10:01] <madsen> MojOrow_: What are you trying to and how are you trying?
[10:01] <MojOrow_> topyli, or usage pscp {options} source [source...] {user@}host:target
[10:01] <arbir> madsen
[10:01] <arbir> are you tim madsen?
[10:01] <madsen> arbir: Heh, no... (See: /whois madsen)
[10:01] <topyli> madsen: yep, i just seemed to recall that pscp has its own quirks. but the syntax seems pretty standard
[10:01] <madsen> arbir: Who's Tim Madsen?
[10:01] <madsen> topyli: Yup, it better be. ;)
[10:02] <arbir> sorry heheh... i have a buddy madsen who is up all night so i was just curious
[10:02] <topyli> madsen: i've only used putty lately on my phone, and pscp not for ages
[10:03] <madsen> topyli: Hehe, I don't even use putty - haven't got a windows nearby...
[10:03] <arbir> can i leave irc on and do my distro upgrade?
[10:03] <arbir> will that be safe ?
[10:03] <madsen> arbir: Well, I _have_ been up all night, but apart from that... Sorry. :)
[10:03] <nalioth> arbir: yes of course
[10:03] <MojOrow_> so far i have done this   pscp -4 c:\distos\ username@computerip:/home/username/desktop
[10:03] <topyli> madsen: me neither, but the phone doesn't run unix either yet :)
[10:03] <arbir> is now upgrading his dostro
[10:04] <MojOrow_> topyli, so far i have done this   pscp -4 c:\distos\ username@computerip:/home/username/desktop
[10:04] <madsen> topyli: hehe
[10:04] <madsen> MojOrow_: That looks about right...
[10:05] <iceman> aant one able to help me get wine an Diablo to go online ?
[10:05] <MojOrow_> topyli,  and as a result i get "Fatal: Network error: Connection refsed"
[10:05] <arbir> is fetching packages at 240kbps
[10:05] <arbir> estimated time is 51 mins
[10:05] <arbir> how can i change my login manager ?
[10:05] <topyli> MojOrow_: but ssh works?
[10:06] <arbir> is there a GUI to change it?
[10:06] <madsen> MojOrow_: Is SSH started (or even installed) on the machine you're trying to scp to?
[10:06] <mojo> Hi.  I want to install mplayer, but dont' know which version.  I have an amd64 but presently run Breezy 32-bit.  What is the mplayer-custom (vs mplayer-586 or mplayer-k6)???  Thanks!
[10:06] <mojo> ps - ubotu points me to a hoary-oriented page on this
[10:06] <MojOrow_> topyli,  gar i thinnk i may have the ipwrong lets see what happens
[10:06] <MojOrow_> topyli, i already logged into it with putty
[10:07] <topyli> ok, the server is there
[10:07] <MojOrow_> topyli, ok
[10:07] <kevix> arbir:'cat /etcc/X11/default-display-manager'
[10:08] <MojOrow_> topyli, yeah it way my fault
[10:08] <MojOrow_> topyli, but i am still having a problem
[10:08] <arbir> sounds good to me kevix
[10:08] <arbir> let me try i kevix.. thanks
[10:08] <kevix> arbir:'cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager'
[10:09] <kevix> arbir: also, if you 'dpkg-reconfigure xdm' it will ask what you want to use.
[10:09] <MojOrow_> top this time i loged in with it but it said "pscp: unable to open /home/username/desktop/: failure""
[10:09] <MojOrow_> topyli,  this time i loged in with it but it said "pscp: unable to open /home/username/desktop/: failure""
[10:09] <MojOrow_> topyli,  and it did it like 40 times
[10:10] <madsen> MojOrow_: You should perhaps replace 'username' with your actual username on the box...
[10:10] <MojOrow_> topyli,  i did
[10:10] <lawrence> sudo: must be setuid root
[10:11] <MojOrow_> topyli, wherever it says username on this screen fo my writing it is a paceholder for my real username (i;m kinda paranoid i dont know why either)
[10:11] <madsen> MojOrow_: Does the dir 'desktop' exist in your home-dir on the machine?
[10:12] <topyli> MojOrow_: it's Desktop not desktop
[10:12] <MojOrow_> topyli, i tried it again now it's transfering the files
[10:13] <MojOrow_> topyli,  w00t
[10:13] <topyli> \o/
[10:13] <MojOrow_> topyli,  i think i ma have created a desktop directory
[10:13] <MojOrow_> topyli,  rightnext to my Desktop one
[10:14] <topyli> MojOrow_: ok. the main thing is the data is moving :)
[10:14] <MojOrow_> topyli,  i am so happy i am finally being productive with y boxed
[10:15] <topyli> yeah, soon you'll have DATA on the machine =)
[10:15] <MojOrow_> topyli,  i am only getting 2.5 mbps tho : (
[10:15] <kevix> MojOrow_: not only productive, but using a secure protocol!
[10:15] <MojOrow_> w00t
[10:15] <topyli> with open source tools!
[10:16] <MojOrow_> i can feel my linux newbishism just leaking away slowly but steadily
[10:16] <arbir> what is the general pattern of fav. text editors ?
[10:16] <arbir> who uses what ?
[10:16] <MojOrow_> what kind of speeds am i supposed to get on a 10/100 network
[10:16] <topyli> MojOrow_: 1 PH33R ur ski11z!
[10:17] <kevix> arbir: well you have either vim or emacs. each has its own religion!
[10:17] <MojOrow_> topyli, rolfmao
[10:17] <topyli> MojOrow_: depends on duplex settings, and the hardware
[10:18] <topyli> and whatever else
[10:18] <topyli> !start an editor war
[10:18] <ubotu> jed is better than emacs
[10:18] <MojOrow_> do you think a router would be why it;s slower
[10:18] <arbir> i know.. kevix just wanting a quick statistics
[10:18] <MojOrow_> and does the encryptioin have a large effect on the process
[10:18] <kevix> arbir: but ALL unix like systems have 'vi', so its always good to know.
[10:18] <arbir> i was using VI lots and still use it... but now i use Scintilla
[10:18] <topyli> MojOrow_: the slowest gadged makes the rules
[10:19] <topyli> gadget
[10:19] <MojOrow_> igotcha
[10:19] <topyli> MojOrow_: and no, the encryption doesn't have that much of an effect
[10:20] <MojOrow_> what is an easier way to network the 2 computers to eachother in a secure way
[10:20] <kevix> arbir: I've always used vim. never had the patience to learn emacs.
[10:20] <MojOrow_> well as secure as somthing can be that is on the internet
[10:21] <MojOrow_> and i just did a check i did actually create a new directory
[10:21] <kevix> arbir: when you say text editor--is that for editing any file or for creating reports--if so, use latex!
[10:21] <MojOrow_> gret now i have 2 desktops
[10:21] <topyli> MojOrow_: i have two boxes together with just a crossover cable from NIC to NIC, no dhcp but static IPs. works well, is simple
[10:22] <MojOrow_> i have a similar setup
[10:22] <nevyn> MojOrow_: place a network cable between them
[10:22] <MojOrow_> on my network i shut of dhcp and only have a few availiable select ips
[10:22] <nevyn> in a condute.. with gas in the condute
[10:22] <arbir> kevix i agree
[10:22] <nevyn> place armed guards every 50M
[10:22] <MojOrow_> basically then both of the compys are connected to the router
[10:22] <arbir> but i would love to also use emacs and see how good it is too
[10:23] <arbir> the process of learning is most intersting
[10:23] <topyli> MojOrow_: i nailed the ips down in hosts files
[10:23] <MojOrow_> his is the first transfer between the 2
[10:23] <nevyn> shoot anyone comming within 10m of the cable that looks vaguely like an isp
[10:23] <nevyn> shoot anyone comming within 10m of the cable that looks vaguely like an antenna
[10:23] <MojOrow_> is there a hosts in lin
[10:23] <kevix> MojOrow_: do you mean connect in the same room like a lan or over a network -- wan?
[10:23] <MojOrow_> if so where is it
[10:23] <MojOrow_> same room
[10:23] <MojOrow_> but i want as best security as possibly
[10:23] <nevyn> MojOrow_: run cabling
[10:24] <topyli> MojOrow_: i have a different setup then. this box is connected to the adsl modem and routes to the other box
[10:24] <MojOrow_> i am not using wireless
[10:24] <kevix> arbir: it takes a while, but no WP compares!
[10:24] <nevyn> shield the wires
[10:24] <Severian> MojOrow_, for the best security, use a crossover cable between the computers and don't connect them to anything else.
[10:24] <MojOrow_>  you mean keep them off of the net
[10:25] <nevyn> ethernet isn't secure.
[10:25] <nevyn> people have sniffed off a wire using a long wire antenna
[10:25] <MojOrow_> and thats why i want atleast some form of encryption
[10:25] <topyli> RIP OFF THE NICS
[10:25] <MojOrow_> my brother knows how to do that
[10:25] <nevyn> MojOrow_: use ipsec?
[10:25] <glyn> What's up everyone?  I'm having trouble with wine
[10:25] <kevix> MojOrow_: there is physical security (locked room) and network security (one crossover cable)
[10:26] <MojOrow_> i dont know what that is yet
[10:26] <glyn> how do I get wine to recognize the DLL library on my windows partition?  or is there a way around this?
[10:26] <MojOrow_> is there any way to get  some form of encryption over the crossover cable
[10:26] <nevyn> MojOrow_: security is something of a double edged sword
[10:26] <nevyn> MojOrow_: sure.
[10:27] <kevix> MojOrow_: google freeswan
[10:27] <nevyn> MojOrow_: use ipsec or a vpn tunnel between the machines but performance is going to suck and it's gonna be less reliable
[10:27] <glyn> I know Wine has a virtual C drive, does it have a virtual driver library too?
[10:27] <nevyn> MojOrow_: because you're adding more complexity
[10:27] <glyn> can anyone offer any assistance please?
[10:27] <Severian> MojOrow_, You can get nics that encrypt the traffic.  Intel makes some. There are other ways, too.
[10:27] <nevyn> MojOrow_: and massive overheads
[10:27] <amarock> i get a serious error..can i post it here plz?
[10:28] <nevyn> amarock: #flood
[10:28] <kevix> MojOrow_: as nevyn said, if you use secure protocols, it zap cpu to do the encryption.
[10:28] <MojOrow_> thats not really a problem
[10:28] <MojOrow_> for me right now
[10:28] <nevyn> yes it is.
[10:28] <kevix> amarock: only if its ONE line
[10:28] <nevyn> MojOrow_: what are you doing on this network?
[10:29] <MojOrow_> all i want is a way to securly send the info between the compys
[10:29] <nevyn> MojOrow_: define securely?
[10:29] <amarock> its 3 lines
[10:29] <nevyn> do you trust the systems at each end?
[10:29] <MojOrow_> actually i am learning to be an admin
[10:29] <amarock> are u guys there in the #flood channel? plz help me
[10:29] <topyli> MojOrow_: i wouldn't worry about your home lan as long as you manage to keep the evil internet out of your system
[10:29] <nevyn> MojOrow_: ahhhh....
[10:29] <MojOrow_> i have done admining for windows boxes for 3 years now
[10:29] <kevix> MojOrow_: do you work for the NSA or CIA? x-)
[10:30] <agt> Hmm I need libfaac0, liblame0, and libxvidcore4 ... whereabouts can I find these packages?
[10:30] <MojOrow_> and my brother a computer god, imo, said that if i wanna get anywhere i will need to get off my ass a nd learn linux
[10:30] <madsen> !tell agt about restricted formats
[10:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell agt about repos
[10:30] <ompaul> MojOrow_, if you want a good vpn use OpenVPN and read the online help pages there are some brilliant faqs out there for it
[10:30] <MojOrow_> i said i would learn how to admina  basica linux system by next year
[10:30] <MojOrow_> and i will
[10:30] <nalioth> agt: enable universe and multiverse
[10:30] <topyli> MojOrow_: he's right :)
[10:31] <nevyn> MojOrow_: you're over complicating this. but learning a vpn solution of some description is valueable
[10:31] <kevix> agt: probably 'universe'
[10:31] <ompaul> MojOrow_, and stay away from serial do it over IP
[10:31] <dmlinux> its 4:30 am and i cant sleep : /
[10:32] <agt> thx kevix, nalioth, madsen
[10:32] <kevix> MojOrow_: all the linux doc are online and free, just read, read, read and ask question.
[10:32] <MojOrow_> the first thing he ever said to my when i asked him about computers all those years ago when i was a little kid he said was RTFM
[10:32] <MojOrow_> it took me 3 months of annoying him to get him to tell me what it means
[10:33] <MojOrow_> or meant
[10:33] <amarock> im disappointed with kubuntu breezy...hoary booted & shutdown sooooooo fast!!....breezy takes soooo much time!!
[10:33] <MojOrow_> and i was like 8 at the time so i was really annoying
[10:33] <kevix> dmlinux: ok. do 2 things, stop drinking caffine and 2 stop playing nethack!
[10:33] <MojOrow_> and of all the lessons i have ever learned in my life that is the number one formost one
[10:33] <topyli> MojOrow_: he's got the tao of unix, he never gets annoyed
[10:34] <MojOrow_> i actually had to get him drunk to get him to tell me
[10:34] <julius> #ubuntu-es
[10:34] <topyli> every guru has his weakness
[10:34] <julius> #/ubuntu-es
[10:35] <topyli> (in fact, looks like most gurus have the same weakness)
[10:35] <julius> canal espaol?
[10:35] <nalioth> julius: escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[10:35] <MojOrow_> well basically he just bought a house  and i am a little jealous
[10:35] <PHOENIX_> REGISTER 255819
[10:35] <julius> thanks ;)
[10:35] <PHOENIX_> sux=)
[10:35] <dmlinux> kevix hehe i was playing BF2 thank you :P
[10:35] <topyli> hehe
[10:35] <MojOrow_> i vowed to myself to learn more than him many years ago
[10:35] <MojOrow_> and I WILL DO IT
[10:36] <MojOrow_> patience is a virtue
[10:36] <MojOrow_> i sya by the time i am 20-21 i will know more than him
[10:36] <topyli> bah. i always learn what i absolutely have to get the stuff done that i want done (but then, i don't much look after other people's machines)
[10:36] <_Rappy_> how can I seach which packages I have installed (from treminal)
[10:37] <_Rappy_> *seach = see
[10:37] <amarock> on this note, what would be a nice linux book for me??
[10:37] <topyli> _Rappy_: dpkg --get-selections
[10:37] <aftertaf> amarock:  http://pizza.unbsj.ca/content/help/tutorials/crash.html
[10:37] <topyli> _Rappy_: you may want to output that into a file
[10:38] <kevix> _Rappy_:  'dpkg -l' or 'dpkg --get-selections'
[10:38] <dmlinux> does locking the screen stop all processes?
[10:38] <arbir> kevix: try scintilla
[10:38] <PHOENIX_> Russian channel?
[10:38] <arbir> www.scintilla.org
[10:38] <aftertaf> dmlinux:  nope...
[10:39] <_Rappy_> thankx topyli & kevix :)
[10:39] <dmlinux> aftertaf because im downloading something , but it will take all night, i want to close the lid of my laptop and let it download while i sleep
[10:39] <MojOrow_> who here says warm by the heat of teir computers
[10:39] <aftertaf> if laptop goes into hibernate.... it willstop ;)
[10:39] <dmlinux> afterlaf my lappy doesnt go into hibernate
[10:40] <amarock> aftertaf: thanks.....but how abt a comprehensive printed book:)??
[10:40] <MojOrow_> topyli, do you have any suggestions as to learning c++
[10:40] <aftertaf> amarock:  one that is good enough to really help, never found one (never looked tbh)
[10:40] <MojOrow_> topyli,  and possibly some linux oriented programming languages
[10:40] <topyli> MojOrow_: nope, i don't code. learn C if you're into unix
[10:40] <nalioth> dmlinux: enable powersaving and let your display depower
[10:41] <MojOrow_> topyli, i tink the shell script language is pearl
[10:41] <dmlinux> nalioth id does :P
[10:41] <dmlinux> nalioth :) i dont mind if the screen goes off all night anyay, thats why i put up a SS
[10:41] <johnny> perl*
[10:41] <topyli> MojOrow_: my scripts do just fine with sh. perl is good for a little more complex stuff, yes
[10:41] <dmlinux> Good night all
[10:42] <johnny> hmm... i normally recommend python. ..
[10:42] <kevix> MojOrow_: perl and bash at least
[10:42] <johnny> lots of quality code out there to look at.. and the guide is specactular
[10:42] <johnny> ruby is nice too tho
[10:42] <ccooke> hmm.
[10:42] <MojOrow_> do you guys suggest me getting books to read from and of so from what publishers
[10:42] <kevix> johnny: I yes I forgot Mr. Shuttleworth LOVES python!
[10:42] <johnny> not a lot of quality perl code to read :)
[10:42] <ccooke> If you're doing systems scripting, dealing mainly with files and programs, you should probably be using shell.
[10:42] <johnny> i never needed a book
[10:43] <topyli> johnny: i wouldn't write my system scripts in python though. languages have their uses
[10:43] <ccooke> otherwise, on ubuntu, python is a good choice.
[10:43] <madsen> johnny: I prefer Ruby... And Bash.
[10:43] <ccooke> but perl and ruby do the job perfectly well.
[10:43] <johnny> python is everywhere tho
[10:43] <topyli> !start a language war
[10:43] <ubotu> VB.Net is better than Perl!
[10:43] <johnny> at least everywhere i go :)
[10:43] <johnny> gentoo and ubntu
[10:43] <johnny> ubuntu*
[10:43] <ccooke> johnny: well. Python doesn't have the reach that perl does.
[10:43] <madsen> topyli: LOL!
[10:43] <olicat> i'm switching to ruby, because of rails
[10:43] <johnny> true..
[10:43] <kevix> MojOrow_: O'reily is king
[10:43] <johnny> rails ialright
[10:43] <johnny> is alright
[10:43] <Severian> MojOrow_, There are some good books you can download free.  But, it really depends on how you would best learn and I think that varies from person to person a lot.
[10:43] <ccooke> *shell*, however, *is* everywhere.
[10:43] <johnny> but it's nothing that my CMS can't do..
[10:44] <johnny> just need to make it easier er
[10:44] <johnny> ccooke, that's not exactly true..
[10:44] <johnny> if your script has alot of bashisms it won't work on csh or tcsh
[10:44] <MojOrow_> i learn best by mood not material
[10:44] <MojOrow_> i know that may sound strange
[10:44] <olicat> coming from zope development, rails is a godsend
[10:44] <Severian> ccooke, Python is a better language in most respects than perl.  But, perl has a great asset in CPAN.
[10:44] <ccooke> um. most sh scripts will fail under csh
[10:44] <MojOrow_> but thats what my aptitude tests oriived
[10:44] <ccooke> but then, csh considered harmful
[10:44] <johnny> only to you :)
[10:44] <MojOrow_> proved
[10:45] <johnny> i don't use it personally
[10:45] <Goan> hi! i'm gonna install ubuntu 5.10 on my bosses computer.
[10:45] <ccooke> johnny: the point you miss, though, is that csh is a login shell.
[10:45] <johnny> uhmm.. just as much as bash is
[10:45] <Goan> can someone give me a couple of quick suggestions how to get mp3 and video codecs working?
[10:45] <ccooke> every box with csh as the default shell will *also* have a bourne (or, more usually these days) korn shell as /bin/sh
[10:45] <Nermal> Goan: wiki
[10:45] <Myrtti> smile, you're on screenshot.
[10:46] <johnny> a korn shell? yuckcity :)
[10:46] <Nermal> :)
[10:46] <ccooke> and most of the features in bash come from the korn shell anyway
[10:46] <madsen> :)
[10:46] <ccooke> johnny: why yuck?
[10:46] <topyli> we used to have csh as the default shell on the university unix boxes. very very strange
[10:46] <johnny> i know MS designed monad of ksh
[10:46] <johnny> off*
[10:46] <Nermal> lies!
[10:46] <MojOrow_> what do you suggest i stick away from in my linux endeavors
[10:46] <johnny> stick away from?
[10:46] <johnny> like?
[10:46] <ccooke> ksh88 *still* has features bash doesn't have yet, and almost any bash script will run under it.
[10:46] <johnny> most of the languages have their usages
[10:47] <ccooke> johnny: er... no.
[10:47] <johnny> i just don't prefer perl
[10:47] <johnny> CPAN is good tho..
[10:47] <ccooke> ksh93 is the most sane scripting shell I've ever worked with.
[10:47] <nnonix> Moj0row_: crazy zealots in IRC chatrooms!
[10:47] <topyli> !start a shell war
[10:47] <ubotu> topyli: Do they come in packets of five?
[10:48] <johnny> hehe .. that's a good start :)
[10:48] <johnny> i don't think we're having a war..
[10:48] <Viper12> Goan, go to this thread. should get you going. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79449&highlight=w32codec
[10:48] <topyli> oh. ubotu misses some features
[10:48] <kevix> MojOrow_: the whole point of FLOSS is to explore what you want, not to avoid stuff
[10:48] <johnny> i can surely say i've explored mucho thanks to FLOSS..
[10:48] <MojOrow_> ok i should have clarified that
[10:48] <johnny> and certainly farther than the word software would make you think..
[10:49] <MojOrow_> i mean what is dangerous to try right now if i dont know to mucha bout it
[10:49] <ccooke> as to bash... well, try this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3592
[10:49] <johnny> they are all about the same :)
[10:50] <topyli> MojOrow_: first thing is to get everything working. after that, back up your configuration and data. then, hack away!
[10:50] <grant> Can anyone please help me in finding drivers? eg Intel 955 chipset drivers
[10:50] <nnonix> Moj0row_: $2 hookers. They are very dangerous.
[10:50] <topyli> MojOrow_: and make a backup plan
[10:50] <kevix> MojOrow_: loging in as root too often (and then using rm -rf)
[10:51] <Myrtti> http://velhottaret.net/~myrtti/05-10-25.png
[10:51] <MojOrow_> thanx for the help guys
[10:51] <twibbler> good morning all ....
[10:51] <amarock> moin
[10:51] <MojOrow_> right now i need rto go and buy some energy because i havent slept tonight as of yet
[10:51] <johnny> i'm trying to write a lil daemon  that reads from a serial port and updates a database , trying to pick the language
[10:51] <MojOrow_> so i;ll be back when i have gotten some pop
[10:52] <johnny> not sure if i'm gonna try to pickup python, ruby, or c# ..
[10:53] <kevix> MojOrow_: oh yea! dont do any thing that affects a critical system if you are sleepy or drunk!
[10:53] <twibbler> And now for the Ubuntu Breezy ?. Toshiba Laptop. I need to switch screen modes, for projector use. I can boot up viewing the projector or screen . How do I activate the hot key switch ?.
[10:53] <MojOrow_> ok lol
[10:53] <kevix> johnny: there should be some short C programs on the net for simple serial port reads
[10:53] <topyli> Myrtti: what's that showing the ampparit headlines? a gdesklet?
[10:54] <johnny> C doesn't really do anything for me ..
[10:54] <johnny> i prefer interpretive languages for the most part..
[10:54] <Myrtti> topyli: yup. LTRSSgrap modified a bit
[10:54] <Myrtti> grab, even
[10:55] <johnny> altho... C# and java have alot of play out there.. so i might bite the bullet..
[10:55] <johnny> don't really see a reason to learn anymore C than i know now.. just enough to fix some kernel patches..
[10:55] <topyli> Myrtti: i have to take a look. they update too often for any other method :)
[10:55] <johnny> hmm.. that remnids me.. i have to figure out what's wrong with my USB device.. seems to cause problems on input
[10:55] <topyli> johnny: C is what makes unix systems though
[10:56] <Myrtti> also xmltv-gdesklet is modified.
[10:56] <johnny> historically yes.
[10:56] <johnny> most the apps i use on a day to day.. are not written in C..
[10:56] <johnny> they are usually written in python or C# .. and then bound to some sort of C library
[10:56] <topyli> Myrtti: modified how? patched, or some configuration-fu?
[10:57] <johnny> like gtk+  ..
[10:57] <kevix> twibbler: toshset or toshutils
[10:57] <johnny> that way i don't have to worry about the memory management issues myself ..
[10:57] <twibbler> kevix: thanks....
[10:59] <Myrtti> topyli: I just edited some stuff out from the source
[10:59] <kevix> twibbler: if you google, there is a toshiba linux mailing list (i'm on it)
[10:59] <twibbler> kevix: will google
[11:00] <topyli> Myrtti: ok, thanks for the hint. i just might make my desktop the ultimate news portal
[11:03] <twibbler> kevix: Required kernel toshiba support not enabled ?.
[11:04] <kevix> twibbler: 'sudo modprobe toshiba' may do it.
[11:04] <heatxsink> anyone in here successfully used a em8300 decoder card and xine together in ubuntu?
[11:05] <twibbler> kevix: nope fatl error inserting toshiba toshiba.ko ... hum looks like its going to be fun ...
[11:06] <seb29> english irc ?
[11:06] <kevix> heatxsink: that needs some special source only kernel drivers?
[11:07] <kevix> seb29: yes.
[11:08] <heatxsink> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10543
[11:09] <Quarupted> theres Ubuntu for PPC?
[11:09] <kevix> topyli: does ubuntu have 'module-assistant'? if so, which repo?
[11:09] <nalioth> Quarupted: yes. many of us use it
[11:10] <Quarupted> wow
[11:10] <Quarupted> whats wrong with OSX?
[11:10] <nalioth> Quarupted: that is a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:10] <Quarupted> lol
[11:10] <Quarupted> no one is ever in there
[11:11] <nalioth> Quarupted: i'll be more than happy to answer that one in there
[11:11] <Quarupted> k
[11:11] <topyli> kevix: apt-cache finds it immediately, it's in universe
[11:11] <kevix> Quarupted: yes. the breezy has a livecd for ppc.
[11:11] <topyli> whatever it is :)
[11:11] <Quarupted> thats cool
[11:13] <kevix> topyli: I was asking in reference to the em8300 kernel driver
[11:13] <Muiske> Ok. I'm having problems with equake, and now xmms as well. I think it's because of the nvidia drivers (strace shows it locks up at an nvidia related point)... anyone know what I could or should do?
[11:13] <amarock> how should i checkinstall....as normal user or sudo?
[11:13] <kevix> topyli: it automates making source-only kernel drivers
[11:14] <kevix> amarock: its always safer to try normal user first.
[11:14] <amarock> kevix: ok
[11:17] <madsen> You know that thing, when you look directly at the sun or into a light, you can, like, see that spot of light with the eyes closed...
[11:17] <madsen> I've got that with the google logo now...
[11:17] <kevix> madsen: DONT DO THAT!
[11:18] <madsen> kevix: How the heck am I then supposed to find any solution to my broken Mono install?
[11:18] <amarock> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.
[11:18] <agt> Why does XMMS get installed when I install mplayer ? :[
[11:19] <amarock> dependency stuff u see......
[11:19] <kevix> madsen: ok. I was refering to looking at the sun! as for mono, ask on #mono or look in the pkg-mono-devel list
[11:19] <amarock> i cant compile kaffeiene.........checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.
[11:20] <madsen> kevix: You didn't see what I wrote just after that thing with the sun?
[11:21] <kevix> madsen: google is everwhere. you cant get rid of google. I've got google-on-the-brain!
[11:21] <madsen> kevix: hehe
[11:21] <kevix> madsen: although, now I have my own google, beagle!
[11:22] <madsen> kevix: Yeah, once I get Mono working I'll have that too... And Banshee... And monodoc...
[11:22] <joachim_> what's the "right way" to say that dialog boxes are showing up as main windows? I want to file a bug on gnome-app-inst
[11:22] <alexissoft> hi
[11:23] <madsen> joachim_: I think "normal windows" is just fine... Or maybe 'non-modal', but I'm not so sure about that...
[11:23] <joachim_> ok thanks
[11:24] <kevix> joachim_: you mean if you have 3 desktops and the dialog only goes to #1?
[11:24] <joachim_> nope
[11:24] <joachim_> I mean they show in the window list
[11:26] <kevix> joachim_: ok. do you mean the window list shows windows on other desktops.
[11:26] <ubuntuguy> anyone: is there an unrar utility for ubuntu?
[11:26] <madsen> ubuntuguy: unrar-nonfree (I think)
[11:27] <kevix> ubuntuguy: should be'aapt-get install unrar or unrar-nonfree'
[11:27] <joachim_> kevix, no. I mean do Help -> About. The about dialog gets a button in the window list. It shouldn't
[11:27] <madsen> kevix: actually, 'sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree' ;)
[11:27] <madsen> ubuntuguy: --^
[11:28] <kevix> madsen: I have debian and ubuntu. I'm on debian at the moment. so I didn't know if you had both.
[11:28] <ubuntuguy> thank you
[11:29] <madsen> kevix: huh? who? what? where?
[11:30] <amarock> i cant compile kaffeiene.........checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.
[11:30] <kevix> madsen:  you said 'unrar-nonfree'. I know that you need 'sudo' but I forgot that U needs it.
[11:31] <madsen> kevix: Oh, unrar-free is there too, but I think nonfree supports more versions.
[11:31] <dave> hey
[11:31] <ubuntuguy> there is an unrar-free and unrar-nonfree, which .... oh nonfree supports more versions?
[11:32] <nalioth> yes it does
[11:32] <dave> hi guys... i got a prob with my battery charge monitor on breezy... anyone feel like helping me out?
[11:32] <kevix> amarock: you may need 'xlibs-dev'
[11:33] <dave> im stuck on 61% battery level
[11:33] <dave> says 13hrs 57mis till fully charged
[11:33] <dave> (im plugged in)
[11:33] <aftertaf> dave:  dead batery?
[11:34] <dave> nah, battery works fine in windows
[11:34] <dave> only thing i can see is in my system log:
[11:34] <dave> localhost battery-stats-collector[8763] : apm_read failed with error code 1
[11:34] <dave> not sure if its related
[11:35] <dave> (i have apmd installed, it's a fresh breezy install)
[11:35] <kevix> dave: do you know if your lappy needs apm or acpi?
[11:35] <CarlFK> HP Deskjet 812C - how do I do the cartridge cleaning thing?
[11:35] <dave> no idea
[11:36] <dave> but in hoary it worked fine
[11:36] <dave> on the same laptop
[11:36] <dave> i didnt apt-get... completely new hard drive (old one corrupted) and a fresh install of breezy... and no go
[11:36] <madsen> what does the 'p' at the beginning of a line in the output from 'dpkg -l' mean?
[11:37] <Belutz> what are the alternative login managers instead of gdm and kdm?
[11:37] <madsen> Belutz: xdm
[11:37] <Belutz> madsen, thanks :)
[11:38] <madsen> Belutz: It's not very slick though - but hey, it works. :)
[11:38] <MojOrow_> i;m bak
[11:38] <MojOrow_> how do you tell how much space is left on a ard drive?
[11:38] <Belutz> madsen, i'm trying to make the lightest ubuntu :D
[11:38] <kevix> CarlFK: djtools may help.
[11:38] <madsen> MojOrow_: df -h
[11:38] <CarlFK> thanks
[11:38] <madsen> dell500: Oh! :) Nice!
[11:39] <kevix> madsen: purged
[11:39] <kevix> Belutz: I like wdm !
[11:39] <madsen> kevix: So ^pi means "purged and installed"... (?)
[11:39] <rysiek> hi all
[11:39] <rysiek> does anybody know how and in which program can I view a film WITH subtitles from a text file?
[11:39] <Belutz> kewvix, wdm? i'll try that also
[11:40] <madsen> rysiek: vlc, mplayer - probably xine too.
[11:40] <dbug> any idea when xubuntu cd released ?
[11:40] <shinu> if someone is on my wifi network, is it normal i cant ping them?
[11:40] <nevyn> xubuntu?
[11:40] <dbug> ubuntu + xfce
[11:40] <nevyn> shinu: depends on a bunch of stuff..
[11:41] <rysiek> madsen: thx, trying
[11:41] <kevix> madsen: if you look at the first 3 lines of 'dpkg -l' it says  'desired state, current state'
[11:41] <nevyn> shinu: not least of which is if they're running a broken firewall or not
[11:41] <amarock> anyone tried vlc player?
[11:41] <nevyn> anyone who blocks ICMP is breaking a fundamental part of the internet (mtu path discovery)
[11:42] <shinu> nevyn: they are running a windows xp so i guess they might have win fw on
[11:42] <madsen> kevix: Huh? So ^pi means desired: purged, current state: installed... (!?!)
[11:42] <MojOrow_> madsen, thanx
[11:42] <madsen> MojOrow_: np :)
[11:42] <kevix> rysiek: what do you mean 'from a text file'
[11:42] <shinu> nevyn: i tried to do an nmap -sS 192.168.0.* but the person doesnt come up
[11:42] <madsen> kevix: it's at dbus and hal!
[11:43] <madsen> kevix: Well, reinstalling them helped...
[11:43] <CarlK> kevix, after apt-get install djtools, where do I find it?
[11:43] <rixth> Okay, I know it is possible to use Shockwave on Linux but can't remember where to get the package?
[11:43] <MojOrow_> which is better for large amounts of data rzip or 7zip
[11:44] <fraser> can someone tell me why after i upgraded to breezy Xchat IRC will simply not open? it gives me the server screen but nothing more
[11:44] <kevix> madsen: you can reinstall them
[11:44] <madsen> MojOrow_: Depends on the data...
[11:44] <madsen> kevix: Yeah, I did that. :)
[11:44] <amarock> bye all....lunch time
[11:44] <MojOrow_> madsen, tel me more if you can
[11:45] <MojOrow_> madsen,  and i amtalking multi gig
[11:45] <rysiek> kevix:
[11:45] <tsw> Hi, Im having problems with ati X550 PCI-e card (on amd64). I installed drivers from ati but it wont work without ChipID override (now working with 0x5B60) but is slow.. any ideas?
[11:45] <kevix> CarlK: well 'grep bin /var/lib/dpkg/info/djtools.list' may give a clue
[11:45] <Belutz> how do i restore dissapeared panel in xfce4 ?
[11:45] <rysiek> kevix: say, I have an XVid copy of my DVD
[11:45] <madsen> MojOrow_: So, not a lot of plain txt I assume...
[11:45] <brownie17> is it just me, or after updating to breezy then connect and close buttons on Xchat IRC are swapped?
[11:45] <rysiek> kevix: but it's a foreign fil and I want to have subtitles
[11:45] <madsen> MojOrow_: Well, usually music and video is already compressed, so it's very little you gain by trying to compress them more...
[11:45] <MojOrow_> madsen, no not really
[11:46] <MojOrow_> what if they are dvd rips
[11:46] <madsen> MojOrow_: I'd say just 'tar' it up.
[11:46] <dbug> Belutz, restart session
[11:46] <MojOrow_> madsen, what if they are dvd rips
[11:46] <rysiek> kevix: there are webpages out there, where you can find text files, appropriately formatted, that with a suitable player will work as subtitles for a film
[11:46] <nalioth> brownie17: i think you've been drinking ;)
[11:46] <madsen> MojOrow_: lol! You mean, hypothetically? :-p
[11:46] <Belutz> dbug, ok
[11:47] <topyli> scientific curiosity
[11:47] <p0windah> ripping your own dvds for personal use is legal
[11:47] <madsen> MojOrow_: Well, I don't think you'd really gain very much from compressing them... You can always try with a single one first and see what you gain.
[11:47] <MojOrow_> a famil member died and i enherited their media collection
[11:47] <madsen> p0windah: Sure...
[11:47] <p0windah> madsen: I do
[11:47] <kevix> rysiek: can this file format have subtitles? I ususally use xine
[11:47] <MojOrow_> madsen,  a family member died and i enharited their media collection
[11:47] <MojOrow_> madsen,  i am trying to archive it
[11:47] <nalioth> p0windah: MojOrow_ legalities belong in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:48] <madsen> MojOrow_: Oh, I'm sorry. :(
[11:48] <MojOrow_> madsen, because my dvde player is my compy
[11:48] <aftertaf> MojOrow_:  use mencoder...
[11:48] <moimoctoc> \q
[11:48] <madsen> MojOrow_: Yeah, you could encode it... But that'd take quite a while...
[11:48] <madsen> MojOrow_: They're raw dvd rips?
[11:48] <moimoctoc> \quit
[11:49] <MojOrow_> yeah i is currently taking 3 hours amovie
[11:49] <madsen> moimoctoc: Try: /quit ;)
[11:49] <p0windah> heh
[11:49] <kevix> rysiek: oh, now I get it. the text files contain the subtitle for the movie.
[11:49] <MojOrow_> and it takes about and hour to rip it
[11:49] <MojOrow_> so at 5 movies a day it;s quite a hassle
[11:49] <aftertaf> MojOrow_:  it aint a fast business...
[11:49] <sigwada> how could i upgrade to ubuntu 5.10 coz im using 4.10 and i dont have a installation cd?
[11:49] <aftertaf> sigwada:  change your repositories and update....
[11:49] <p0windah> sigwada: you can do it over the internet easily enough
[11:50] <aftertaf> !tell sigwada about upgrade
[11:50] <MojOrow_> thats why i am just ripping them right nwo and thinking to compresds them so that i can batch encode later
[11:50] <highvoltage> sigwada: press alt+f2, then type in "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:50] <gnomefreak> sigwada type /topic theres a link there that explains it very well
[11:50] <highvoltage> then, change all the warty 's to breezy
[11:50] <kevix> sigwada: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to 'breezy'
[11:50] <highvoltage> then "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" from commant line
[11:51] <MojOrow_> basically so that i can do the batch encoding in batches
[11:51] <gnomefreak> comment out the backports or erase them
[11:51] <kevix> sigwada: but then you have to do 'sudo apt-get update'
[11:51] <Fanskapet> ahh there is a LiveCD for Zeta R1.1 available for download now :)
[11:52] <topyli> MojOrow_: good idea. you can leave mencoder crunching away with the movies at nights
[11:52] <Antioch> Can anyone give me a hand? Just a little snafu with a new icon set's icons not being displayed correctly...   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81321
[11:52] <MojOrow_> thats why i am moving them to my lin box
[11:52] <MojOrow_> if ou read  up above it;ll say a little info about it
[11:53] <eliphas_> hello I am installing vmplayer and I got a question
[11:53] <eliphas_> export CC=gcc-3.4
[11:53] <eliphas_> oops
[11:53] <MojOrow_> right now i am wondering what i should do about compression do yo have any sggestions madsen
[11:53] <eliphas_> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[11:53] <eliphas_> kernel?
[11:53] <eliphas_> where is that ?
[11:54] <crimsun> eliphas_: linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:54] <madsen> Antioch: I don't think you actually can change that - unless you hack firefox...
[11:54] <crimsun> eliphas_: which will give you /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[11:54] <p0windah> MojOrow_: check out doom9.net, but as was mentioned earlier.... #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:55] <kevix> eliphas_: /usr/src/kernel-header*
[11:55] <crimsun> kevix: we don't use kernel-headers*
[11:55] <Antioch> madsen well what about gnome-terminal?
[11:55] <eliphas_> oh thanks guys
[11:56] <madsen> Antioch: I don't think so - it's built into the programs afaik...
[11:56] <madsen> Antioch: So, if you get the source, change it a bit and compile, then I think you'll be able to...
[11:56] <Antioch> madsen haha, gotcha... thanks =)
[11:56] <madsen> Antioch: np. :) Sorry I couldn't help you actually fix it. :-/
[11:57] <jtan325> hi, i've got a dell inspiron 8500, and would like to get a dual-head setup with my 20.1" lcd of the same resolution...
[11:57] <jtan325> any good tutorials on how to do this?
[11:58] <Alchemist_> jtan - which video card?
[11:58] <jtan325> nvidia 4200 go
[11:58] <jtan325> 64 mb of memory
[11:58] <jtan325> graphics, that is
[11:58] <eliphas_> my usr/src/ has only a rpm directory
[11:58] <Alchemist_> jtan - http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=176&p_created=1101836843&p_sid=RekL2VSh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NTgmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0wJnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfZm5sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9bGludXg*&p_li=&p_topview=1
[11:58] <crimsun> eliphas_: you have to install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:59] <p0windah> nilink jtan325
[11:59] <eliphas_> i have to
[11:59] <eliphas_> okie do
[11:59] <gnomefreak> :( rpms
[11:59] <jtan325> thanks Alchemist_ but i think i want the twinview
[11:59] <jtan325> where i can drag windows between both screens
[11:59] <jtan325> (if possible)
[12:00] <kevix> eliphas_: does 'dpkg -l |grep headers' show anything kernel related?
[12:00] <Alchemist_> jtan - the nvidia site also has faq on twinview
[12:00] <Alchemist_> jtan - I find dual head nicer
[12:00] <p0windah> jtan325: its possible, but not documented very well unfortunately. you will have to read around a couple of linux sites and play around with your config files by hand a little
[12:00] <madsen> Mmm...
[12:01] <jtan325> so maybe i don't really understand what dual-head means
[12:01] <jtan325> if each screen is its own X screen
[12:01] <jtan325> you can't drag windows between them, correct?
[12:01] <ccooke> that's correct
[12:01] <gnomefreak> jtan325,  no
[12:01] <Alchemist_> dual head lets you have two seperate X screens - you cant drag - but you can launch apps to specific screens
[12:02] <kevix> jtan325: google xinerama
[12:02] <eliphas_>  dpkg -l |grep headers
[12:02] <eliphas_> ii  comerr-dev                            2.1-1.38-2ubuntu1                    c
[12:02] <eliphas_> etc... etc ....
[12:02] <brownie17> can someone tell me where tthe grub config file is stored please?
[12:02] <eliphas_> kevix, yes
[12:02] <gnomefreak> jtan325,  if im not mistaken the purpose is kinda like the different work spaces you have now only you can see both at same time
[12:02] <crimsun> brownie17: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:02] <Alchemist_> brownie17 - on your boot partition - you probably need to mount it first
[12:02] <kevix> !xinerama
[12:03] <ubotu> kevix: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:03] <jtan325> hmmm
[12:03] <jamieter> hi all, need some help, im a complete newbie but totally keen on linux and open source, got ubuntu 5.04 and downloaded open office 2, please can someone help me on installing it
[12:03] <johnsie2k> hi... what package do i need installed to "make"  something?
[12:03] <kevix> eliphas_: so you dont have linux-headers or kernel-headers package ?
[12:04] <crimsun> it's linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:04] <crimsun> explicitly
[12:04] <crimsun> don't change the $()
[12:04] <p0windah> jtan325: you can drag between them
[12:04] <jtan325> yea i'm looking into this stuff
[12:04] <jtan325> thanks guys
[12:05] <kevix> johnsie2k: 'sudo apt-get install kernel-package' will do it (and other cool stuff)
[12:05] <jtan325> hopefully i don't fux0r my xconfig
[12:05] <gnomefreak> jamieter, not sure how to install oo2 on hoary it comes with breezy tho :)
[12:05] <Alchemist_> jtan325 - yeah back it up first :-)
[12:05] <johnsie2k> thanks
[12:05] <jtan325> lol of course
[12:05] <p0windah> jtan325: its called "spanned mode"
[12:05] <p0windah> jtan325: where desktop 1 will be both your lcd's
[12:06] <eliphas_> kevix, ii  linux-kernel-headers                  2.6.11.2-0ubuntu13                   Linux Kernel Headers for development
[12:06] <kevix> crimsun: which distros had < 2.6.12 kernel?
[12:06] <jtan325> p0windah, you're talking about the dual-head xinerama?
[12:06] <guillem101> johnsie2k, I would say build-essentials
[12:06] <madsen> kevix: I think hoary did...
[12:06] <brownie17> crimsun, after changing my grub menu.lst should i have to run sudo update-grub before my changes take effect?
[12:06] <p0windah> jtan325: when I had it working I didnt use the xinerama stuff
[12:06] <madsen> brownie17: Nope
[12:06] <Antioch> How can I change the behavior of gnome such that when I double click a window's title bar it doesnt maximize, but instead "rolls up" (windowblind style)?
[12:06] <brownie17> madsen, thanks
[12:06] <johnsie2k> i got the kernel-package and the make command is doing something...cheers
[12:07] <laci> hi
[12:07] <p0windah> jtan325: but its possible, whats cool is picking whether you want window maximises to span across both lcd's :)
[12:07] <guillem101> Antioch, System->Settings->Window settings
[12:07] <jtan325> haha
[12:07] <guillem101> Antioch, at the menu...
[12:07] <kevix> eliphas_: eurika! that is it.
[12:07] <Antioch> guillem101 thanks, I forgot where to find it... =)
[12:07] <jtan325> p0windah, so you just used the basic dual-head stuff described on the nvidia site?
[12:07] <guillem101> :)
[12:07] <laci> i'get a permission problem with copying from cdrom to home dir
[12:08] <madsen> Antioch: Hehe, shading windows is higly addictive. ;)
[12:08] <p0windah> jtan325: well I did it with an ati 9800pro and found that most of the official guides were out of date
[12:08] <p0windah> jtan325: I found some obscure posting on a forum that explained things clearly, in the end
[12:08] <laci> for example i copied Dir1 from /media/cdrom to ~/ with nautils
[12:08] <eliphas_> kevix now  need to find it to point it to vmplayer
[12:08] <jtan325> hahaha
[12:08] <laci> then i can't delete ~/Dir1, only with root access
[12:08] <crimsun> madsen: um, actually yes you do need to run sudo update-grub
[12:08] <jtan325> that's how 90% of my problems are solved
[12:09] <gnomefreak> theres official guides for things on linux?
[12:09] <p0windah> jtan325: but its possible, dont give up :)
[12:09] <jtan325> by some guy who finally figured it out
[12:09] <p0windah> gnomefreak: apparently
[12:09] <crimsun> kevix: Warty had 2.6.8.1
[12:09] <madsen> crimsun: Why? I've _never_ done that - and I've changed my menu.lst, like, 8 times within the last 24 hours...
[12:09] <kevix> laci: what is the command, what is the error?
[12:10] <crimsun> madsen: anything between the kernel magic lines isn't updated
[12:10] <p0windah> anyone here a "screen" user ?
[12:10] <crimsun> p0windah: sure
[12:10] <nevyn> p0windah: naturally
[12:10] <jtan325> i've used screen
[12:10] <jtan325> pretty neat
[12:10] <ccooke> crimsun: yep
[12:10] <madsen> crimsun: No, but if you just edit menu.lst and don't do it because you've installed a new kernel, then you won't need to...
[12:10] <kamstrup> I really *really* need you guys to help me with a small thing...
[12:10] <laci> kevix, the error is that the user hasn't got write permission on ~/Dir1
[12:11] <madsen> poncho1: /me too
[12:11] <ccooke> er. p0windah: yep
[12:11] <p0windah> crimsun: I like using C-a and C-e in bash to move around on a line, whats the work around with screen ?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> kamstrup, ask the question lets see if we can help
[12:11] <kamstrup> Can you try and execute: python -c "import gtk"
[12:11] <kamstrup> does it fail?
[12:11] <laci> kevix, but i copied that dir with the same user, and not root
[12:11] <p0windah> and to anyone else that uses screen frequently
[12:11] <crimsun> madsen: advise people to sudo update-grub regardless, because it catches every case.
[12:11] <ccooke> p0windah: okay, there are two ways to sort that out
[12:11] <kevix> laci: what does 'ls -ld ~/Dir1' say?
[12:11] <kamstrup> gnomefreak: That is, if you have pygtk installed ofcourse
[12:12] <ccooke> p0windah: you can change the escape code screen uses - screen -e^BB will make it look for Ctrl-B instead of Ctrl-A
[12:12] <laci> kevix, dr-xr-xr-x  2 laci laci 4096 1970-01-01 01:00 Picture
[12:12] <madsen> crimsun: Well, sure, it doesn't hurt.
[12:12] <ccooke> p0windah: or, you can use Ctrl-a a, which sends a Ctrl-a to the app inside screen
[12:12] <kamstrup> I get:AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'CAPI'
[12:12] <kamstrup> and it freaks me out
[12:12] <laci> rm -Rf Picture said i haven't got permission to delete it
[12:13] <laci> kevix, umask is 022
[12:13] <kevix> laci: what does 'ls -ld ~/' say?
[12:13] <laci> drwxr-xr-x  41 laci laci 4096 2005-10-25 12:02 /home/laci/
[12:13] <p0windah> ccooke: thanks, that brilliant. my productivity grows again
[12:14] <ccooke> p0windah: changing the escape code, by the way, is useful for running screens inside screen
[12:14] <madsen> Arg!!! Damn crap! If breezy is stable ubuntu, then I feel sorry for the people developing on dapper...
[12:14] <kevix> laci: you tried to delete it from the command line or from nautilus?
[12:14] <Nermal> madsen: hardware locking up ?
[12:15] <nalioth> madsen: ?
[12:15] <p0windah> I think I'll track down some screen fan site and learn its voodoo
[12:15] <laci> kevix, both
[12:15] <madsen> Nermal: No, mono doesn't work in any way.
[12:15] <madsen> nalioth: --^
[12:15] <Nermal> well we knew that ;)
[12:15] <Nermal> it's a clone of M$ stuff and pushed so hard to 1.x status by novell marketing people it's hardly surprising
[12:15] <nalioth> madsen: give it time
[12:15] <laci> kevix, i only can delete it with sudo/root access
[12:15] <Nermal> it should still be 0.2x imho
[12:16] <madsen> Nermal: Even after uninstalling (and purging) everything mono and installing it all over again nothing new has happened... *grr*
[12:16] <p0windah> its free software, use or dont use it
[12:16] <ccooke> p0windah: for instance, I have a three-level screen setup - a single screen on Ctrl-Y which runs an ssh to our main login server... on that, a screen on Ctrl-B, each window of which is a screen on Ctrl-A on a different server...
[12:16] <Nermal> it just doesn't work ?
[12:16] <kevix> laci: that is odd
[12:16] <johnsie2k> there is no build-essentials in the repos
[12:16] <madsen> nalioth: It works on my Agnula/Debian...
[12:16] <Nermal> p0windah: have a state the obvious star :)
[12:16] <p0windah> I know there are probably a couple of mono apps I'd appreciate being able to run under linux
[12:16] <ccooke> (the screen on Ctrl-Yis just there so the session persists over multiple logins - only one window)
[12:16] <madsen> Nermal: Pretty much yeah...
[12:16] <laci> kevix, is somewhere a settings with i can set the default permission of the newly copied files?
[12:16] <madsen> p0windah: What kinda useless suggestion is that?
[12:16] <kevix> johnsie2k: its 'build-essential' ( no s)
[12:17] <thoreauput1c> Will uninstalling xubuntu-artwork-usplash or whatever it's called get the ubuntu splash back or is there a further step required?
[12:17] <kevix> p0windah: I'm running tomboy and beagle!
[12:17] <p0windah> merely pointing out that whining about novell pushing mono is not a "bad thing" tm
[12:17] <madsen> thoreauput1c: Hehe, I had that exact same problem... :)
[12:17] <nalioth> madsen: agnula?
[12:17] <thoreauput1c> madsen: :(
[12:18] <johnsie2k> ah
[12:18] <thoreauput1c> madsen: any solutions?
[12:18] <johnsie2k> :_
[12:18] <kevix> laci: umask. but you knew that.
[12:18] <madsen> thoreauput1c: the trick was to uninstall (and purge) xubuntu-artwork-usplash and then 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image-`uname -r`' :)
[12:18] <madsen> nalioth: A GNU/Linux Audio Distribution (http://agnula.org)
[12:18] <thoreauput1c> madsen: aha - OK I thought I recalled a dpkg-reconfigure in there - thanks :)
[12:19] <madsen> nalioth: Pretty cool, if it was better than other distros at music apps, but it's not. :-/
[12:19] <nalioth> madsen: perhaps you'd like to join the motu team and hack on it
[12:19] <madsen> nalioth: motu?
[12:20] <madsen> puff: lol! Tak! :)
[12:20] <madsen> pusling: --^
[12:20] <thoreauput1c> I must say breezy is very cool - it does a lot of sophisticated tricks I didn't know about like the totem plugin for firefox...
[12:20] <gnomefreak> xemacs is the text editor right?
[12:20] <nalioth> madsen: masters of the universe (repository)
[12:20] <kevix> madsen: how about 'dinabolic'(sp?)?
[12:21] <crimsun> thoreauput1c: usplash and initramfs are linked, so anytime you change usplash, you have to regenerate the initramfs, which means you have to dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[12:21] <kevix> madsen: masters of the universe - motu
[12:21] <madsen> kevix: You mean dynebolic? (I've heard it mentioned, but that's all I know about it.)
[12:21] <Nermal> p0windah: they did fire half my friends and fuck my career up
[12:21] <Nermal> and now they've laying off more people
[12:21] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: I see - OK will do - not exactly intuitive is it *grin*
[12:21] <madsen> nalioth: Nah, I think I have plenty to do just to get my breezy actually working...
[12:21] <Nermal> hardly a splendid company IMHO
[12:22] <Nermal> gnomefreak: more of an operating system, but yes, it has an editor :)
[12:22] <madsen> Nermal: right on!
[12:22] <gnomefreak> Nermal, ty so there is a difference between xemacs and gnu emacs?
[12:23] <crimsun> thoreauput1c: that's how it stands in Breezy. It may change in Dapper.
[12:23] <madsen> gnomefreak: Yeah, of religious proportions, I think... But I use vim, so I don't care. ;)
[12:23] <dave> hey
[12:23] <Nermal> gnomefreak: erm.. one is console.. one is X iirc
[12:23] <gnomefreak> madsen, alot of people are using vim
[12:24] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: if I pastebin my amixer output could you have a look and perhaps tell me why I can't record using a mic and gnome recorder app?
[12:24] <madsen> gnomefreak: I know, and I'm one...
[12:24] <gnomefreak> ty Nermal
[12:24] <chic> heyyyyyyyyyy
[12:24] <madsen> gnomefreak: a lot of people are using emacs/xemacs too...
[12:24] <nevyn> hrm
[12:24] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: if you're busy don't worry
[12:24] <DjKritical> Anyone here use imagemagick?.. I'm trying to turn a whole directory of images into thumbnails =(
[12:24] <gnomefreak> madsen, ty
[12:25] <nevyn> who's responcible for shippit?
[12:25] <DjKritical> hey it's madsen.. remember me ;D
[12:25] <LePoulpe303> hi all
[12:25] <crimsun> thoreauput1c: sure, though I need /proc/asound/cards info, too
[12:25] <nevyn> shipit even.
[12:25] <LePoulpe303> anyone has a clue how i can recompile a package already installed by synaptic ?
[12:25] <dave> hey guys... my battery charge monitor is stuck on 61% and says it has about 14 hours until it's fully charged... obviously something's wrong... only thing i can find is a lot of this sort of thing in syslog localhost battery-stats-collector[7886] : apm_read failed with error code 1
[12:25] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: OK I'll see what I can come up with - thanks :)
[12:25] <nevyn> LePoulpe303: why do you want to?
[12:25] <dave> remove it, dl the source and make it?
[12:26] <nevyn> LePoulpe303: you'd remove it download the source package and debuild it.
[12:26] <nevyn> LePoulpe303: but why?
[12:26] <LePoulpe303> nevyn :  i have a problem of c++ abi compatibility on some libraries
[12:26] <foxgamer> Hi all. So I'm having real problems with breezy. Is there a program that will inform me of any possible conflicts between software/hardware?
[12:26] <p0windah> :)
[12:26] <LePoulpe303> nevyn : on a pc that made hoary-> breezy transition
[12:26] <nevyn> LePoulpe303: ah
[12:27] <LePoulpe303> nevyn : i'm a newb in linux and for me it's hell ... :D
[12:27] <chic> speak spanish?
[12:27] <nevyn> LePoulpe303: that's a pretty serious problem
[12:27] <chic> ssssss
[12:28] <nevyn> LePoulpe303: I'd probably re-install the libraries and the application before attempting to rebuild libc
[12:28] <dave> anyone feel like helping me with my battery charge monitor?
[12:28] <kevix> !es
[12:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:28] <nevyn> dave: have you loaded the battery module?
[12:28] <dave> it's a fresh breezy install
[12:28] <dave> it used to work on hoary okay
[12:28] <nevyn> dave: or has ubuntu loaded it for you?
[12:28] <LePoulpe303> nevyn : http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1943
[12:28] <dave> it's just the battery monitor usually in the top right corner
[12:28] <nevyn> dave: it's the sort of thing that should "just work" on ubuntu
[12:29] <dave> yeah thats wat i thought
[12:29] <dave> it worked fine in hoary
[12:29] <nevyn> dave: that's why they were aiming for "Totally awesome" laptop support...
[12:29] <dave> works fine in windows
[12:29] <nevyn> jdub: or was it "totally rad" ?
[12:29] <dave> but right now, i'm plugged in
[12:29] <dave> and it says
[12:29] <dave> 61%
[12:29] <dave> 18 hours 55mins until charged
[12:29] <dave> and it's been like that for a few hours
[12:29] <madsen> Ok, which one of you guys (or gals) started the ubuntu hype?
[12:30] <dave> if anything, that time's increasing
[12:30] <madsen> ... and what's your home address, I have something interesting (and ticking) to mail you... *grr*
[12:30] <p0windah> there are hoards of closet longtime debian users in here
[12:31] <nevyn> some of whom still havn't switched
[12:31] <dave> so yeah..
[12:31] <p0windah> debian users never truly switch :)
[12:31] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3595
[12:31] <madsen> p0windah: I'm a long time Debian user - and I keep an extra Debian nearby at all times....
[12:31] <dave> localhost battery-stats-collector[7886] : apm_read failed with error code 1
[12:31] <dave> is wat i got
[12:31] <dave> apmd is installed
[12:31] <p0windah> madsen: sure thing, I'm working on two right now :)
[12:31] <nevyn> except I deployed breezy in a server rather than sarge because the 2.6 sarge ships with has a bug in the ide driver for the intel board I was using...
[12:31] <dave> (obviously, its a fresh breezy install)
[12:31] <nevyn> most upsetting
[12:32] <madsen> p0windah: I'm dual-booting Agnula/Debian and Ubuntu Breezy - but I have a feeling that breezy is already on it's way out...
[12:32] <dave> hang on... its now 42% what the hell
[12:32] <madsen> p0windah: Not much fun in coding C# on a platform it doesn't work on.
[12:32] <p0windah> dave: the magic of linux..
[12:32] <dave> (was 61% a little while ago and it's charging)
[12:33] <dave> ok, this battery monitor is obviously stuffed
[12:33] <madsen> Well, gonna try a reboot as suggested by Ubuntu... Brb to bitch some more. ;] 
[12:33] <dave> is there any other battery monitor package i can get other than this gnome applet?
[12:33] <crimsun> thoreauput1c: hmm, do you actively use optical out?
[12:34] <kevix> LePoulpe303: read http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/debian
[12:34] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: umm... no - I don't even know what it is :)
[12:34] <crimsun> thoreauput1c: digital output to a receiver capable of handling it?
[12:34] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: no, I don't use anything like that
[12:34] <dave> oh wow! now 79% remaining
[12:35] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: my set up is simple - I have two speakers only
[12:35] <crimsun> thoreauput1c: ok, mute 'IEC958' and unmute 'Capture'
[12:35] <dave> i'm guessing the code for this battery charge monitor is "output random number from 1 to 100"
[12:35] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: OK
[12:35] <macintoshr> im trying to compile some dockapps on a friend's ubuntu box
[12:35] <macintoshr> it's missing X11/xpm.h
[12:35] <kevix> dave: try'aapt-cache search battery'
[12:36] <sigwada> i download an installtion cd of ubunutu 5.10, but when it is in the stage of installing the base system, theres an error msg sounds like this "initrd-tools, chk target/var.../, "what does it means?
[12:36] <macintoshr> what package is that in?
[12:36] <macintoshr> i've tried libxpm, xpm, libx
[12:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sigwada about verify
[12:36] <crimsun> macintoshr: use http://packages.ubuntu.com to search
[12:36] <macintoshr> thanks
[12:36] <Nermal> macintoshr: you want the development packages
[12:36] <Nermal> as thats a header
[12:36] <dave> thanks
[12:36] <agt> i have ubuntu installed on sda1 - i'm trying to plug in my other ide hard drive and boot up, but grub gives me error 17, any suggestions?
[12:37] <Nermal> google ?
[12:37] <LePoulpe303> kevix : thanks but i'm afraid it will not help me for that  http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1943
[12:38] <kevix> macintoshr: libxpm-dev
[12:38] <bazooka> ho can help me ?!?!?!
[12:38] <macintoshr> got it
[12:38] <LePoulpe303> +-
[12:38] <macintoshr> just found that one, he's installing it
[12:38] <macintoshr> thanks
[12:38] <LePoulpe303> oops felt asleep on keyb
[12:39] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: I don't see "capture" in alsamixer - the gnome mixer has 3 settings for capture - do I just unmute the mic?
[12:39] <dave> i found xbattbar
[12:39] <dave> not sure how to run it
[12:39] <gnomefreak> how do you change names in bitchx?
[12:39] <foxgamer> anyone with 64bit having problems with breezy?
[12:39] <crimsun> thoreauput1c: in alsamixer, you just need to select the mic for capture. I presume you toggled it using the space bar in the F4 screen?
[12:40] <dave> anyone with 64bit running 64bit linux (not x86) is shooting themselves in the foot until people make 64 bit drivers...
[12:40] <crimsun> thoreauput1c: otherwise you can always amixer sset 'Capture' on
[12:40] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: let me have another look
[12:41] <kevix> thoreauput1c: press 'tab'
[12:41] <foxgamer> dave: I have realised that now :) Am I able to backgrade to 32bit without reformatting again?
[12:42] <dave> backup your home directory
[12:42] <madsen> Back!
[12:42] <dave> and reinstall
[12:42] <LePoulpe303> if anyone can help me for that    http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1943
[12:42] <dave> that's the best bet
[12:42] <dave> unless your home directory's on a different partition
[12:42] <dave> then u can just install on the system partition
[12:42] <foxgamer> ah cool. Thanks dave. The home directory contains all my settings too?
[12:42] <dave> yep
[12:42] <kevix> LePoulpe303: that looks like a mess. what program did you want?
[12:43] <nekyian> wt.. is this distro... no gcc? please enlight me how would I install gcc without all the deps fuss
[12:43] <dave> beauty of linux
[12:43] <dave> u'll have to reinstall any packages tho
[12:43] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: just testing ...
[12:43] <dave> (but that's self explanatory)
[12:43] <foxgamer> thank you :) Will be nice to have a working computer again.
[12:43] <boris> I remember when updating debian would be done a 2k/s now it is updating at 220k/s
[12:43] <boris> yum
[12:43] <qiHEWSfi> i have little problems setting up a zalman theatre 6 + terratec aureon system in ubuntu. does anyone know what lfe output means?
[12:43] <LePoulpe303> kevix : the total story :   i made a python program that works well on winXP, ubuntu breezy French, but that puts this message on a Horay->Breezy german box
[12:43] <bimberi> nekyian: install the build-essential package
[12:44] <CosmoDad> is the Debian Maintainer's Guide for building packages also valid for Ubuntu debs? Any reference that shows the differences available?
[12:44] <nekyian> thnk u
[12:44] <bimberi> yw :)
[12:44] <gnomefreak> what is command to change user name for freenode?
[12:44] <crimsun> CosmoDad: wiki/DeveloperResources . Yes, it's still quite valid.
[12:44] <CosmoDad> gnomefreak: /nick <name>
[12:44] <bimberi> gnomefreak: /nick <newnick>
[12:44] <CosmoDad> crimsun: thx
[12:44] <gnomefreak> ty
[12:45] <kevix> LePoulpe303: compare the output of  'dpkg -l' or the french and german box.
[12:45] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: thanks again ! Working fine now - nice to have a sound genius to consult! ;-)
[12:45] <crimsun> thoreauput1c: np
[12:45] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: much appreciated
[12:45] <nekyian> bimberi, oh..btw is this ubuntu a debian style linux...please excuse my ignorance..I just need to get some work done, I usually do slackware but I happen to run across this workstation and need to install sone shit and it gives me headaches?
[12:45] <kevix> CosmoDad:  read http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/debian
[12:45] <LePoulpe303> kevix : we have checked all libraries and gcc version in synaptic all seems to be the same , but perhaps we missed some
[12:46] <boris> LePoulpe303, what is the problem ?
[12:46] <bimberi> nekyian: yes, based on debian it is :) - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[12:47] <LePoulpe303> boris : please scroll up
[12:47] <boris> Oh right, sorry, can't help with that
[12:48] <kevix> LePoulpe303: you said its python? isn't that supposed to be portible?
[12:48] <madsen> LePoulpe303: What was the error-msg? (Don't have a browser in handy atm... Waiting for gnome to be through hanging.)
[12:49] <LePoulpe303> kevix : don't tell me about that :  i'm very sad to see all the mess i have to make something that works with windows work using linux and mac
[12:49] <madsen> kevix: You can make any portable app unportable...
[12:49] <Nermal> LePoulpe303: lol
[12:49] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: interesting - sound on breezy seems to work best for me with OSS source and esd sink whereas on hoary I had to do the dmix thing - am I right that there's no way to have games like frozen-bubble or pingus running at the same time as other music etc?
[12:50] <LePoulpe303> madsen : Fatal Error: Mismatch between the program and library build versions detected.
[12:50] <LePoulpe303> The library used 2.6 (no debug,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 102,wx containers,compatible with 2.4),
[12:50] <LePoulpe303> and wxPython used 2.6 (no debug,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,wx containers,compatible with 2.4).
[12:50] <crimsun> thoreauput1c: not easily.
[12:50] <Nermal> ask in #python ? :)
[12:50] <kevix> LePoulpe303: that you need folks who know wxpython. I dont suspect that would be here.
[12:50] <jtan325> holy crap twinview worked
[12:50] <thoreauput1c> crimsun: that's fine - at least this is a major improvement :))
[12:50] <jtan325> kinda...
[12:51] <LePoulpe303> Nermal : guess the answer they made
[12:51] <jtan325> does anyone know how to identify their display device names?
[12:51] <jtan325> is it the "Identifier" line under Section "Device" in xorg.conf?
[12:51] <Nermal> LePoulpe303: I have other ways of generatig useless channel traffic
[12:51] <Alchemist_> jtan325 - for each device section you make an Identifier line
[12:51] <LePoulpe303> kevix : nobody knows that crap :D
[12:51] <LePoulpe303> Nermal : ???
[12:51] <sigwada> how can i obtain a free cd of ubuntu 5.10 here in the philippines?
[12:52] <thoreauput1c> is the esound-client package necessary for remote music using freenx? (currently music plays on the server, not the client)
[12:52] <jtan325> Alchemist_, so how do i go about making an identifier for my second lcd monitor...
[12:52] <kevix> jtan325: echo $DISPLAY
[12:52] <jtan325> i already have Identifier"NVIDIA Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 Go AGP 8x] "
[12:52] <madsen> LePoulpe303: Hmm, sorry, don't think I'll be of much help. :-/
[12:52] <jtan325> (that was there before i enabled twinview)
[12:52] <LePoulpe303> madsen : thanks for trying :)
[12:52] <kevix> sigwada: go to the ubuntu website!
[12:52] <madsen> LePoulpe303: hehe, np. :)
[12:53] <madsen> sigwada: http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[12:53] <Alchemist_> jtan325 - add a second device section / a second screen section and a second monitor section
[12:53] <kute> backports
[12:53] <Alchemist_> jtan325 - you can change the default device identifier to something easier like 'card0'
[12:53] <jtan325> ok
[12:53] <jtan325> sounds good
[12:54] <jtan325> but then where do i do Option "Twinview"
[12:54] <jtan325> (in which section "device")
[12:54] <jtan325> and Option "TwinViewOrientation"
[12:54] <Alchemist_> jtan325 - then you make a second device section - 'card1' but actually for the same physical device
[12:55] <jtan325> wait
[12:55] <jtan325> so i was going to make a new device, monitor, and screen section for this external lcd monitor
[12:55] <jtan325> separate from what's already configured for my laptop screen
[12:56] <Alchemist_> jtan325 - ok - do you want twinview or dual head ?
[12:56] <jtan325> twinview please
[12:56] <jtan325> i'm following the instructions on http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=175&p_created=1101836633&p_sid=RekL2VSh&p_lva=175&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NiZwX3Byb2RzPTAmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9mbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1hcHBlbmRpeA**&p_li=&p_topview=1
[12:56] <jtan325> oh crap sorry about the paste
[12:56] <thoreauput1c> jtan325: that's close to the ugliest URL I've ever seen :)
[12:56] <Alchemist_> jtan325 - ok - well just setup a second 'monitor' and 'screen' section and add the options into one device section
[12:57] <jtan325> haha thoreauput1c
[12:57] <jtan325> Alchemist_, alright, I will try that
[12:57] <jtan325> and let's say I wanted to unplug my external lcd monitor
[12:57] <jtan325> and take my laptop somewhere
[12:57] <jtan325> how do i safely "disable" it?
[12:57] <jtan325> or do i have to shutdown first and then unplug
[12:58] <thoreauput1c> jtan325: if nvidia apply the same methods to their cards as their website, I'm staying away <grin>
[12:58] <jtan325> haha thoreauput1c, at least it's more problem-free than the stuff i've heard about ATI cards
[12:58] <sun_> HIA
[12:58] <thoreauput1c> jtan325: true :)
[12:59] <sun_> hi ,everyone
[12:59] <sun_> have a good day
[12:59] <madsen> Gawd... I'm gonna go sleep and try to dream of something that doesn't have to do with my fscked up Mono/dbus...
[01:00] <madsen> See ya later!
[01:01] <jtan325> Alchemist_, it says in the nvidia site to use "display device names"...
[01:01] <jtan325> but if there's only one Device section
[01:01] <jtan325> ...
[01:02] <jtan325> how would I set an identifier for each screen
[01:02] <thoreauputic> OK time to go again - thanks crimsun, night all
[01:02] <jtan325> (besides the ones in their separate monitor and screen sections)
[01:04] <boxerboy29> this is weird but kinda cool
[01:04] <Stormx2> Does anyone know a way to seemlessly mount an ftp folder?
[01:06] <golan77> hi to everybody!
[01:06] <Stormx2> Hey to you!
[01:06] <boxerboy29> good morning
[01:07] <golan77> I see that this new kubuntu 5.10 rocks!
[01:07] <manas> 82852/855GM graphics card in my ThinkPad is refusing to get accelerated  :( Anyone have an idea ?
[01:07] <johnny> where can i put my own .desktop files ?
[01:07] <johnny> in $HOME
[01:08] <golan77> what do you suggest as IMAP client on ubuntu? I quite don't like thunderbird
[01:08] <gnomefreak> i love thunderbird its easy set up
[01:09] <Nermal> evolution ?
[01:09] <Nermal> balsa ?
[01:09] <Nermal> mutt ?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> kmail
[01:09] <golan77> what about kmail? are you currently using it as IMAP ?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> i am using ubuntu not kubuntu
[01:10] <golan77> thanks anyway gnomefreak... well, your nick explains a lot :-)
[01:10] <gnomefreak> and my mail are all pop3 i think the ones i set up anyway
[01:10] <johnny> evolution is a bit too much of a hog for me
[01:10] <johnny> i just use thunderbird
[01:10] <golan77> johnny, i agree with u
[01:10] <johnny> waiting for some of the gtk+ performance fixes to get merged in
[01:11] <johnny> hopefully there will be enough to make a difference by the time we get to dapper drake
[01:11] <golan77> ok
[01:11] <johnny> the big time gtk+ folks did some serious profiling works
[01:11] <johnny> in the recent past ..
[01:11] <johnny> that should make things alot nicer in the long term
[01:11] <frans-th> all, know openldap? where i can install it? i use breezy here
[01:11] <frans-th> nothing in the repos
[01:12] <johnny> so anybody know about a place in $HOME to put .desktop files
[01:12] <peritus> gnome is not loading when i login, i just get the brown background and the mouse. i can still move the mouse. what can be wrong?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> peritus im assuming you tried to reboot?
[01:13] <peritus> gnomefreak: yeah
[01:13] <peritus> 5.10 fresh install
[01:13] <gnomefreak> peritus  is this the first boot or have you made the first boot already?
[01:13] <peritus> er. yesterday gnome like hung up and i just pushed the power button. started now again.
[01:14] <peritus> i have logged in succesfully before
[01:14] <hamouhzi> HELLO
[01:14] <Stormx2> HEY
[01:14] <Stormx2> !mp3
[01:14] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[01:16] <Bluemat> !w32codecs
[01:16] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[01:16] <gnomefreak> peritus im not sure i was gonna say try to reconfig your xorg file(setting) but i had a black screen not brown so im not real sure
[01:16] <Turandot> como puedo slir de la intalacion que hace el cd de ubuntu?
[01:16] <peritus> gnomefreak: oh wait
[01:16] <peritus> gnomefreak: now, after like 5 minutes im logged in
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Turandot english please
[01:16] <Turandot> hay canales de ingles?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> !es
[01:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:17] <Turandot> de espaol?
[01:17] <Turandot> gracias
[01:17] <Quarupted> Si, estan Hablar en espanol
[01:17] <Quarupted> que?
[01:18] <Quarupted> Ayuda?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> !es
[01:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:20] <peritus> gnomefreak: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&forumid=1&threadid=225837 that seems to be my problem. the same lines in the logs
[01:20] <Quarupted> No I was trying to help him in Spanish, I speak english
[01:21] <gnomefreak> oh sorry
[01:21] <Quarupted> lol its cool
[01:21] <jtan325> has anyone gotten dual-head to work (not twinview)?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> peritus thats not a valid address
[01:22] <peritus> gnomefreak: what?
[01:23] <stuart_> test
[01:23] <gnomefreak> the link you posted doesnt give me a thread
[01:23] <peritus> gnomefreak: "The first time I login after boot it takes gdm about 5 minutes before it starts up Gnome. When I log in without X it also takes about 5 minutes to log me in (unless I log in as root for some weird reason). Anyway, after the first login it's al fast again. Any idea's how I can fix this? Any suggestions would be appreciated."
[01:23] <peritus> and then like
[01:23] <peritus> "Sep  2 18:57:23 cc109776-a gconfd (pathfinder-4203): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only config source at position 0"
[01:23] <stuart_> can anyone advise me on user memory and used swap?
[01:23] <peritus> in the logs
[01:24] <flow-> hello, just got 5.10 from ftp.fu.berlin and checksum of ./install/netboot/pxelinux.0 is uncorrect, install is aborting, *.iso checksum of 5.10 is correct tho
[01:24] <stuart_> i reckon there may be a problem with the way memory is handled?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> peritus im not real sure
[01:25] <termitor_taff> hello, i have some bug with sane , who have bug too ?
[01:25] <egoleo> hey
[01:26] <tttriple> its because your father is gay
[01:26] <egoleo> how do i recover a file deleted on ubuntu
[01:26] <flow-> can someone confirm this checksum error?
[01:26] <qiHEWSfi> does anyone own a combination of terratec 5.1 pci aureon fun and zalman theatre6 surround headphones and has all channels outputting properly?
[01:26] <termitor_taff> xsane segfault if hpijs is setup
[01:26] <stuart_> anyone know how  memory is handled?
[01:26] <tttriple> how do i pick up chicks at partys? do i need to upgrade to 5.10? or is 5.04 fine?
[01:27] <egoleo> how do i recover a deleted file
[01:27] <stuart_> my swap and user memory do not seem to get released?????
[01:27] <mahangu_> tttriple, we prefer to keep things civil in here
[01:28] <tttriple> doesnt seem very civil at the moment
[01:28] <tttriple> even with -ttriple
[01:28] <mahangu_> tttriple, let's not refer to each others' fathers, that's all
[01:28] <jtan325> has anyone gotten dual-head to work (not twinview)?
[01:29] <qiHEWSfi> i have to say that this combo rocks. for 50 bucks, you have yourself semi-hifi 5.1 headphones and a fully ubuntu 5.10 compatible 5.1 system using a very high quality budget soundcard called aureon 5.1 pci fun. the speakers are known as 'zalman theatre 6'
[01:30] <qiHEWSfi> the headphones that is
[01:30] <egoleo> how do i recover a deleted
[01:30] <golan77> a question: how can i add a "show desktop" (that is, minimize all open windows) icon on the menu bar?
[01:31] <Efils_God> hello all your newest newb here
[01:31] <siimo> golan77, right click > Add
[01:31] <qiHEWSfi> golean 77 click on the panel desired, select add to panel and find the icon there
[01:31] <golan77> yes but... which icon?
[01:31] <siimo> golan77, scroll down the list one is called shoe desktop
[01:32] <Efils_God> if the files i want are in my windows my documents folder will i be unable to access them?
[01:32] <Efils_God> i get a message that i don't have permission to axx them
[01:32] <golan77> siimo, which list?
[01:32] <siimo> right click add to panel will show you a list golan77
[01:33] <tttriple> oi why doesnt perl work with apache
[01:33] <stuart_> can anyone advise about memory????????????
[01:33] <flow-> hello, just got 5.10 from ftp.fu.berlin and checksum of ./install/netboot/pxelinux.0 is uncorrect, install is aborting, *.iso checksum of 5.10 is correct tho
[01:33] <egoleo> how do undelete a file on ubuntu
[01:33] <tttriple> egoleo,  if its not in the trash bin its gone
[01:33] <stuart_> surely someone here knows something about swap space...???
[01:33] <golan77> siimo, sorry i didn't mention... i'm with kubuntu
[01:33] <tttriple> flow-,  your burner is burning corrupt cds
[01:33] <golan77> maybe i need to join #kubuntu
[01:34] <tttriple> yeahhhh may be
[01:34] <flow-> no tttriple, the unpacked iso is already corrupt
[01:34] <siimo> golan77, -> # kubuntu
[01:34] <golan77> thanks!
[01:34] <flow-> that has nothing to do with my burner
[01:34] <siimo> #kubuntu
[01:34] <egoleo> hey
[01:34] <egoleo> my assignment
[01:34] <flow-> the whole iso checksum is correct, but not the pxelinux.0 (unpacked)
[01:34] <egoleo> and i need to get it by now
[01:34] <egoleo> so is there no way i can recover that
[01:35] <stuart_> M E M O R Y help please
[01:35] <jjd> When I run the Synaptic Package Manager it gives me this error "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://za.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/za.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"
[01:35] <gnomefreak> i thought the only difference in commands from ubuntu to kubuntu was like gedit=kedit in kubuntu?
[01:35] <jjd> Is this a problem or can I ignore it?
[01:36] <bimberi> jjd: A "Reload" will probably clear it
[01:36] <Nermal> stuart_: your spacebar appears to also activate itself at regular intervals
[01:36] <Efils_God> would i have to move the files i want to view in ubuntu from the windows my document folder to view them?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> i know the us and uk sources work not sure about za
[01:36] <Nermal> Efils_God: nope
[01:36] <Nermal> can read fat32 / ntfs under linux
[01:37] <qiHEWSfi> is there a 5.1 testing utility for ubuntu?
[01:37] <stuart_> i'm just attention seeking - can u help with memory?
[01:37] <Efils_God> its saying i don't have permission to access the folder
[01:37] <gnomefreak> Efils_God  try as root?
[01:38] <Efils_God> system disks program to do that?
[01:38] <Efils_God> hmm
[01:38] <Bluemat> Anyone know of an text editor that has FTP built in??
[01:38] <Bluemat> besides emacs..
[01:38] <Nermal> erm
[01:39] <Nermal> mad
[01:39] <Efils_God> weird i can access it now
[01:39] <gnomefreak> not sure but im assuming vim does also
[01:39] <stuart_> MMEEMMOORRYY help please
[01:40] <KenSentMe> Bluemat: i was also looking for one, but haven't found one that works the way i do
[01:40] <stuart_> ubuntu does not allow memory to be freed up?
[01:40] <KenSentMe> Bluemat: i mean 'the way i want to'
[01:40] <Efils_God> one more question guys if its ok
[01:40] <limguohong91> Hi how do i have the special caldener thing formy Ubuntu?
[01:41] <Efils_God> trying to play a divx file do i need to download the audio codecs for it cause im not getting any sound
[01:41] <tttriple> all these problems you have, can be fixed by installing windows
[01:41] <KenSentMe> tttriple: now that's a solution!
[01:41] <gnomefreak> limguohong91 special calender thing?
[01:41] <Efils_God> where the fun in that?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> tttriple only problem there is you have more problems in windows
[01:42] <tttriple> it appears to work for a while
[01:42] <limguohong91> gnomefreak: Some people have a caladener on their desktop that is not the default, On the other ways how can i change it?
[01:42] <stuart_> c'mon guys, help me with meory prob plssssse
[01:42] <tttriple> out of the box it does
[01:42] <KenSentMe> Efils_God: exactly, try searchin the wiki (wiki.ubuntu.com)
[01:42] <gnomefreak> limguohong91 ive seen different calenders in synaptic
[01:43] <gnomefreak> stuart_: linux doesnt allow for memory to be freed up???????
[01:43] <limguohong91> gnomefreak okay
[01:43] <Efils_God> it says there is no audio output available when i try and play an mp3 do i need to install drivers? I have nforce2 onboard audio
[01:43] <gnomefreak> Efils_God  you might need codecs
[01:43] <tttriple> Just like Winows 95 the memory is locked untill reboot
[01:43] <KenSentMe> Efils_God: do you get a sound when ubuntu starts up?
[01:43] <Efils_God> yeah i do
[01:43] <stuart_> yeah maybe -- i opened a lot of photos and applications and physical memory utilisation increases and eventually swap was used
[01:44] <larry> help on recovery of deleted files
[01:44] <gnomefreak> stuart_: how much memory do you have?
[01:44] <larry> how do i recover a deleted file
[01:44] <stuart_> closing the files/applications did not result in the expected amount of memory becoming available
[01:44] <jtan325> has anyone gotten dual-head to work (not twinview)?
[01:44] <stuart_> 512mb ram
[01:44] <gnomefreak> stuart_: and thats not enough?
[01:45] <stuart_> swap was set by Ubuntu at approx 780 Mb
[01:45] <Efils_God> what exactly is a wiki?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> swap should be close to double ur memory
[01:45] <gnomefreak> Efils_God wiki is help pages
[01:45] <stuart_> yeay it's enough, but ubuntu is stealing it and i wonder wether it's like in the days of windows 98, that the system will slowly grind to a halt with memory leakage?
[01:46] <r00t_> hi
[01:46] <Efils_God> do the win32 codecs include audio ones? cause i can't find just audio codecs
[01:46] <stuart_> also, it seems to resort to swap when there is still physical memory available
[01:47] <gnomefreak> stuart_: i have 512mb ram and i dont have any memory issues i dont think ive ever used swap yet thats why im stunned.
[01:47] <larry> so there is no way to recover a file
[01:47] <kbrooks> larry: technically there is
[01:47] <kbrooks> larry: not on ext3
[01:47] <gnomefreak> larry: not sure how to get them back
[01:48] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: You can't on ext3.
[01:48] <stuart_> with nothing open other than wot the system starts automatically im using 119Mb swap. I dont know any way to get this back other than to reboot
[01:48] <kbrooks> I tried.
[01:48] <gnomefreak> kbrooks isnt default ext 3 on breezy
[01:48] <Efils_God> where can i find audio codecs?
[01:48] <linxeh> stuart_: i've had machines running for 2-3 years without a reboot that dont grind to a halt, and various desktops at work run for 4-6 months before we reboot them - they work fine
[01:48] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: ext3 IS default on breezy
[01:48] <stuart_> (as reported by the system monitor installed by default)
[01:49] <gnomefreak> thats what i thought
[01:49] <gnomefreak> stuart_: i really think you have a hardware issue with your memory sticks
[01:49] <KenSentMe> ubotu tell Efils_God about codecs
[01:49] <tttriple> oi flash keeps 4ucking up mozilla and the audio doesnt work
[01:49] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: please organize your sentences right
[01:49] <stuart_> how would i check that (system is stable and everything else seems fine)?
[01:50] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: "ext3 isn't default on breezy" < i read your sentence as this
[01:50] <linxeh> stuart_: it will be fine. how much memory was free, and how much was still used for "buffers" ?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> kbrooks oh ok sorry i meant it is default
[01:51] <johnm> gnomefreak: swap space has nothing to do with phsyical memory
[01:51] <Efils_God> im looking in the wiki all i can see are the win32 codecs i've installed them but still have no sound
[01:51] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: then say so! you weren't comprehensible
[01:51] <tttriple> i re read gnomefreak 's messages and i comprehended them
[01:51] <marinho> Cmo puedo or la cadena ser desde ubuntu?
[01:51] <johnm> stuart_: swap is used when the pages in memory are not active.. and as such is moved to swap space to save real RAM for other things
[01:51] <Efils_God> im using totem movie player
[01:51] <limguohong91> gnomefreak even though there is an options in Synaptic i installed the calder but how do i change it?
[01:51] <johnm> stuart_: it's normally old cached data.
[01:51] <kbrooks> free = mem + cache + buffers
[01:51] <Prabu^> hello all
[01:51] <kbrooks> free = mem + cache + buffers
[01:51] <kbrooks> ^
[01:51] <Prabu^> are there MySQL 4.1 packages for Ubuntu ?
[01:52] <stuart_> system memory is currently sitting at aprrox 58% and swap at 15%
[01:52] <kbrooks> !info mysql
[01:52] <larry> yes
[01:52] <tttriple> !info apache
[01:52] <ubotu> apache: (versatile, high-performance HTTP server), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.3.33-8 (breezy), Packaged size: 374 kB, Installed size: 804 kB
[01:52] <larry> how do i recover a deleted file
[01:52] <kbrooks> !info mysql-client
[01:52] <ubotu> mysql-client: (mysql database client binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 403 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB
[01:52] <johnm> stuart_: you can safely trust it sitting at 100% total usage, assumign that most og it is cached
[01:52] <kbrooks> !info mysql-server
[01:52] <ubotu> mysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3471 kB, Installed size: 8796 kB
[01:52] <linxeh> stuart_: run the "free -m" command
[01:52] <kestas> hi, I ran a server installation but for some reason eth0 isn't getting set up on startup
[01:52] <kbrooks> Prabu^: no
[01:52] <kbrooks> ^
[01:52] <kestas> I have to set it up myself with ifconfig
[01:52] <kbrooks> Prabu^: client and server are both 4.0
[01:52] <kestas> which I don't understand because /etc/networks/interfaces is set up correctly
[01:52] <brownie17> bob2, i finally managed to get my breezy update to work, but now i want to know, in synpatic all the packages are white squares with yellow stars, what does this mean?
[01:52] <tttriple> who wants to help me get perl working on apache
[01:52] <stuart_> so would that be web pages visited and that sort of thing?
[01:52] <Prabu^> yea
[01:53] <limguohong91> How do i add in a special calader features that other Ubuntu user have?
[01:53] <Prabu^> guess i gotta do alot of work :S
[01:53] <stuart_> free -m   --- ill give it a go
[01:53] <johnm> stuart_: it isn't quite like that. but yeah. almost :)
[01:53] <kestas> it may have something to do with that I changed the network card after I installed ubuntu, would this cause this problem
[01:53] <kestas> ?
[01:53] <linxeh> stuart_: file accesses mainly
[01:54] <limguohong91> How do i add in a special calader features that other Ubuntu user have? Instead of using the default i belive there is anyway way to show the calader in a better way
[01:54] <kestas> bob2, you're a unix guru right? I also see Seveas
[01:54] <kestas> can either of you help me out?
[01:54] <Efils_God> flash audio works
[01:54] <tttriple> how
[01:54] <kbrooks> kestas: dont assume anyone cant help you out. and dont ask to ask
[01:54] <tttriple> its seriosuly not wokring
[01:54] <kbrooks> JUST ASK
[01:55] <KenSentMe> Efils_God: do you get a sound when ubuntu starts up?
[01:55] <stuart_> ok -- free -m reports different figures than the sys monitor (gui)
[01:55] <corincole> can anyone tell me if www.projecthack.org  dispalys?  :)
[01:55] <kestas> kbrooks, I posted my question above
[01:55] <Nermal>  ah.. kbrooks I was wondering when you would appear
[01:55] <kbrooks> Nermal: yes?
[01:55] <Nermal> doing the exact same thing you bitched at me for months ago
[01:55] <tttriple> i dont trust you corincole
[01:55] <kestas> kbrooks, but it got ignored
[01:55] <corincole> tttriple? why not?
[01:55] <iiiears> G'morning kbrooks good to see you. :0
[01:55] <iiiears> :)
[01:55] <corincole> its going to download viruses to ure pc :P
[01:55] <tttriple> because
[01:55] <kbrooks> lol
[01:55] <kestas> kbrooks, and Im assuming anyone cant help me out because no-one has
[01:55] <corincole> ???
[01:55] <stuart_> swap is same, but of "total mem" it reports 472 with 466 used
[01:55] <tttriple> you went :) after the url
[01:56] <linxeh> stuart_: what does it say for buffers and cached ?
[01:56] <kbrooks> corincole: 1. very few viruses in linux
[01:56] <corincole> exactly
[01:56] <stuart_> whereas the gui suggests 60% utilisation??
[01:56] <corincole> thats a smiley face
[01:56] <corincole> : )
[01:56] <kestas> guys should I use KDE or GNOME?
[01:56] <corincole> as in, thankyou for helping me
[01:56] <tttriple> i know
[01:56] <corincole> lol
[01:56] <tttriple> a suspocious one
[01:56] <Nermal> kestas: try both and choose
[01:56] <corincole> dont if u dont want to though
[01:56] <corincole> 8 -)
[01:56] <deeler> can someone convince me why to use ubuntu instead of debian ?
[01:56] <stuart_> buffers total 776, used 118
[01:57] <corincole> use it u stupid ******!   ubuntu is better!!!
[01:57] <corincole> lol
[01:57] <Nermal> deeler: faster release cycle, more user friendly out of the box ? :)
[01:57] <kbrooks> corincole: i suggest you be nice
[01:57] <Nermal> he is
[01:57] <deeler> Nermal: what about broken packages ? and the amount of packages ?
[01:57] <Nermal> his humor is just very simple
[01:57] <kestas> is this a support channel?
[01:57] <kestas> or chat?
[01:57] <iiiears> kestas it is a matter of personal preference. - gnome is a little faster and has been developed a bit longer. but KDE is a bit nicer looking with more settings to easily change the desktop appearence.
[01:57] <kbrooks> kestas: both
[01:57] <Nermal> deeler: less packages but still plenty..
[01:57] <Nermal> not many broken ones on stable releases
[01:57] <qiHEWSfi> do you know if changing alsa device mixer settings requires a reboot? i would like to enable as presented center/lfe output in mic connection but the connection does not seem to activate that output..
[01:57] <tttriple> kde is like unpro, kinda fun and childish
[01:58] <Nermal> kestas: it's a n00b-pit :|
[01:58] <tttriple> gnome doesnt put up with shit
[01:58] <Stormx2> Ubuntu is debian with all the differculty taken out ^_^
[01:58] <kbrooks> iiiears: erm, kde > gnome in terms of developing
[01:58] <kbrooks> tttriple: lets not be rude
[01:58] <tttriple> it knows what it wants and wont fuck around
[01:58] <Nermal> kbrooks: hush
[01:58] <Nermal> you flame starter you :)
[01:58] <deeler> Nermal ; the reason why i want to move is because the amd64 support of debian is bad .... what about the ubuntu amd support ?
[01:58] <kbrooks> Nermal: i start flames? dude.
[01:58] <Nermal> deeler: well. ubuntu uses new kernels
[01:58] <kestas> because I have a problem that my interface card isn't getting set up on start up, yet /etc/networks/interfaces is set up okay, and I can set it up manually using ifconfig, yet everyone ignores my question. yet I get in depth responses for 'should I use kde or gnome'
[01:58] <Stormx2> ubuntu supports amd64 fine ^_^
[01:58] <Nermal> so I guess support on a kernel level should be better
[01:58] <tttriple> its because your father is gay
[01:58] <kestas> seems like a chat/opinion chan
[01:59] <Nermal> app wise I dunno.. not used 64 bit ubuntu
[01:59] <Stormx2> if people need help we help them
[01:59] <johnm> Nermal: do ubuntu release a 64bit userland though.. thats the real question :)
[01:59] <Stormx2> stop critisising
[01:59] <tttriple> whoops i reposed a message by accident
[01:59] <kbrooks> Nermal: this is NOT a noob pit
[01:59] <qiHEWSfi> to be noted: kubuntu live torrent is extreeemely slow
[01:59] <Nermal> kbrooks: is it NOT ?
[01:59] <iiiears> i dunno. - grin - i use gnome fast and light. still a lot of ways to change it's appearence.
[01:59] <kestas> Stormx2, I need help, and kbrooks it seems to be
[01:59] <kbrooks> Nermal: nope it isnt
[01:59] <Nermal> bless
[01:59] <stuart_> u still there James?
[01:59] <kestas> eth0 isn't getting set up on startup, yet /etc/networks/interfaces is set up correctly
[01:59] <kbrooks> kestas: well'
[01:59] <kestas> and I can set it up with ifconfig eht0
[01:59] <kestas> *eth0
[01:59] <tttriple> this is a noob pit
[02:00] <johnm> deeler: imo, the best thing for amd64 users is to use a full 64 bit platform. most binary distros dont do it. source ones of course will. although the actual userland isn't totally important, the kernel support is moreso.
[02:00] <kbrooks> kestas: biased answers
[02:00] <Efils_God> ken sent me the audio work when ubuntu starts up flash has audio too but when i try and play an mp3 or a video file there is no audio output available for totem
[02:00] <kbrooks> tttriple: stop it
[02:00] <kbrooks> tttriple: no its not
[02:00] <Nermal> waa waa
[02:00] <Stormx2> kestas: Try resetting your router/modem before booting up
[02:00] <tttriple> it is!
[02:00] <Nermal> toys -> pram
[02:00] <Stormx2> see if that does any good.
[02:00] <kbrooks> tttriple: newbies == more users
[02:00] <tttriple> just read it for like 5 minutes
[02:00] <tttriple> yeah
[02:00] <Nermal> kbrooks: contribute help andstop trying to herd the n00bs
[02:00] <kbrooks> more experts
[02:00] <tttriple> ok
[02:00] <Nermal> :)
[02:00] <kestas> kbrooks, what does that mean? Stormx2 this is an ethernet card which connects to my LAN
[02:00] <tim__> Hi all, is there an easy way of getting PHP to run under Apache using Ubuntu ?
[02:00] <Nermal> sudo apt-get install mod-php4 ?
[02:00] <tttriple> This channel has alot of new users who dont know much about anything , yet.
[02:00] <Stormx2> !lamp
[02:00] <ubotu> lamp is probably Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:00] <deeler> I need a server (asterisk+iptables+cups+ipsec+sshd) with a minimal desktop that needs to be able to run a browser and openoffice , i heard openoffice is problematic on amd64 .  is that true ?
[02:01] <kestas> 'biased answers' just some vague comment because you have no clue kbrooks ?
[02:01] <kbrooks> kestas: no, i'm telling u what i think others are saying about gnome / kde in 2 words
[02:01] <Stormx2> stop flaming.
[02:01] <iiiears> tim__ psst. - there are packages but i would chack out the "L.A.M.P." project at sourceforge
[02:01] <zaydana> where would i find examples from a [library] -examples package? Like the wx-examples one...
[02:02] <tttriple> kde = c hildish     gnome = pro
[02:02] <stuart_> linxeh -- are u there?
[02:02] <kestas> kbrooks, I dont care about gnome/kde, I asked to see whether I would get responses to see if people weren't responding to me or they didn't know about my question
[02:02] <iiiears> LAMP = linux apache mysql php
[02:02] <kestas> and it seems no-one knows about my question
[02:02] <deeler> i'm thinking of installing the latest amd64 server version of ubuntu and manually add all packeges needed for a minimal desktop + ooffice  .... should that work ???
[02:02] <Stormx2> Who cares about which is better? Its you opinion whether you use KDE or GNOME. Stop being flaming newbies and settle down.
[02:02] <kbrooks> tttriple: I prefer GNOME to KDE. KDE segfaulted for me on Arch Linux
[02:03] <kestas> listen I don't care about GNOME vs KDE, I care about why my interface card isn't getting set up on startup
[02:03] <Stormx2> The whole reason both exist is because some people use KDE and some use GNOME.
[02:03] <tttriple> i stoped liking kde once i relised i didnt like it
[02:03] <kbrooks> tttriple: but if GNOME is problematic, i'll use kde then
[02:03] <tttriple> although i hate the gnome logo
[02:03] <Stormx2> kestas: I'm sorry I'm of no help. if i knew a solution I would tell you, but I'm new to this too.
[02:03] <kbrooks> kestas: listen we already told you, restart router
[02:03] <kestas> I asked it to see whether you guys weren't listening to me, or if you didn't understand about my non-moronic question of 'why isn't my card getting set up on startup'?
[02:03] <tttriple> its like wtf im a crap logo
[02:04] <kestas> kbrooks, I told you the card connects to my LAN, not a router
[02:04] <deeler> i'm thinking of installing the latest amd64 server version of ubuntu and manually add all packeges needed for a minimal desktop + ooffice  .... should that work ???
[02:04] <iiiears> deeler - gnome isn't going to eat up that much disk space or processor cycles if you aren't using it. - why add it later?
[02:04] <Nermal> deeler: yup
[02:04] <Nermal> should do
[02:04] <Efils_God> what is the correct output plugin?
[02:04] <bestadvocate> hey guys
[02:04] <kestas> and you're all still going on about kde vs gnome, just like I knew you would, like a load of FAQ bots
[02:04] <Efils_God> for audio
[02:04] <Nermal> Efils_God: for ?
[02:04] <Nermal> alsa ?
[02:04] <kbrooks> kestas: okay.
[02:04] <qt2> err, does anyone know how i'd play audio on my computer in skype under ubuntu? in winows i could just set my "microphone" to be the "line out"
[02:04] <Stormx2> kestas: Can you connect to LAN, but not internet?
[02:04] <kbrooks> i'll stop now
[02:04] <deeler> i would use WindowMaker, our company uses it for about 10  years now
[02:05] <tttriple> kestas, we can talk about it if we want
[02:05] <kbrooks> tttriple: no
[02:05] <Efils_God> sound works but not for media files
[02:05] <Nermal> DENIED
[02:05] <tttriple> just because u started it with your response test, doesnt mean you can stif us
[02:05] <deeler> it's easy to configure and fully dummy-proof
[02:05] <kestas> Stormx2, I can connect to the LAN, but I have to go 'ifconfig eth0 10.10.1.50', it doesn't do it by itself on startup
[02:05] <Nermal> Efils_God: what media files
[02:05] <kbrooks> tttriple: do you know #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:05] <tttriple> stop us
[02:05] <kbrooks> ?
[02:05] <Nermal> god.. give us some info
[02:05] <iiiears> deeler - windowmaker - hm - i'll have to check that out.
[02:05] <Efils_God> mp3s divx xvid
[02:05] <iiiears> thanks
[02:05] <tim__> iiiears :  Thanks, Ill give it a go :o)
[02:05] <Efils_God> the video files play but without sound
[02:05] <Nermal> Efils_God: mp3 is apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:05] <tttriple> no i didnt
[02:05] <Nermal> god.. grow up guys
[02:05] <deeler> iiiears, don't expect the features of gnome/kde ... its more minimal
[02:06] <kestas> so I looked at /etc/networks/interfaces, where the startup details are, and it looks like it's in order
[02:06] <Nermal> put your toys back in your prams or leave
[02:06] <kbrooks> tttriple: tal
[02:06] <kbrooks> k t
[02:06] <Stormx2> kestas: Hmm. My thoughts are its trying to do that before bringing up the network interface... but I have no idea.
[02:06] <kbrooks> er
[02:06] <kbrooks> tttriple: talk there
[02:06] <tttriple> whats does tal mean
[02:06] <tttriple> maybe i will
[02:06] <Stormx2> #
[02:06] <kbrooks> tttriple: about gnome / kde
[02:06] <kestas> Stormx2, do what?
[02:06] <Nermal> go bitchfight somewhere else
[02:06] <deeler> anyone got ubuntu+amd64+openoffice? tell me your experiences with it please
[02:06] <Stormx2> #ubuntu-offtopic for bitchfighting
[02:06] <Efils_God> permission denied
[02:06] <tttriple> unless i have a proper bulshit question for this channel
[02:06] <kestas> Stormx2, do what before bringing up the interface
[02:06] <Nermal> Efils_God: sudo fffs
[02:06] <Nermal> -f
[02:06] <Efils_God> lol
[02:06] <kbrooks> lets stop it all
[02:06] <Efils_God> oh yeah
[02:06] <Nermal> jesus
[02:06] <Efils_God> sorry
[02:06] <Stormx2> kestas: Listen, I don't know. Sorry I don't!
[02:07] <kestas> anyone here know anything that doesn't get asked here 1000 times a day?
[02:07] <Stormx2> kestas: I'm new to this, and sometimes people in the channel just flame. Not often.
[02:07] <Nermal> kestas: hush
[02:07] <tttriple> and why would i talk in a idle room
[02:07] <stuart_> lol kestas
[02:07] <tttriple> might as well go talk to my cpu fan
[02:07] <Stormx2> Have fun with that
[02:07] <CoffeeBreaks> trying to help someone remotely to check his ubuntu live CD. How do I make her check the integrity of the CD? Is there a boot option somewhere?
[02:07] <Nermal> tttriple: nah.. cpu fans are just full of hot air ;)
[02:08] <Stormx2> CoffeeBreaks: md5 sum, methinks
[02:08] <deeler> anyone got ubuntu+amd64+openoffice? tell me your experiences with it please
[02:08] <Efils_God> i already have it on the system
[02:08] <Efils_God> newest version
[02:08] <halibut> how can I extract the sound from an avi file to mp3?
[02:08] <iiiears> md5sum - works with the terminal for files never tried to check an already botted CD.
[02:08] <tttriple> has anyone had intocourse? tell me your experences with it please?
[02:08] <CoffeeBreaks> Stormx2: md5sum was OK. I need to check the burnt CD. Usually there's a way to check the CD using a boot option. Knoppix does it.
[02:08] <stuart_> Debian vs Ubuntu --- how come Debian (granted it has older packages) seems a lot snappier -- especially Open Office?
[02:09] <KenSentMe> stuart_: snappier?
[02:09] <kestas> Seveas, can you please help me out? no-one understands what's going wrong
[02:09] <KenSentMe> what's that?
[02:09] <kestas> Seveas, they all just start prattling on about KDEvsGNOME
[02:09] <Seveas> fools...
[02:09] <Seveas> kestas, what's the prob?
[02:09] <Efils_God> is there any more codecs i need other than the ones on the restricted format page?
[02:10] <kestas> eth0 isn't getting set up on startup, yet /etc/networks/interfaces is set up correctly
[02:10] <_native_> good morning all :-)
[02:10] <Seveas> kestas, are you using network-manager?
[02:10] <Efils_God> also how do i unrestrict a folder so i don't have to go into diskmanager to browse it
[02:10] <stuart_> faster open office loads in about 1/3 the time. By the way, how do you make your text red to stand out?
[02:10] <kestas> Seveas, no I've installed the server system
[02:10] <Seveas> kestas, paste your interfaces file on the bin
[02:10] <kestas> Seveas, also I can do ifconfig eth0 1.2.3.4 fine
[02:10] <iiiears> Hello Seveas :)
[02:10] <Seveas> hi iiiears
[02:11] <hyphenated> kestas: if your /etc/network/interfaces file is set correctly, you should be able to do 'sudo ifup eth0'
[02:11] <hyphenated> kestas: note - not ifconfig
[02:11] <apokryphos> amarok 1.3.5 ubuntu packs are out: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.5.php
[02:11] <kestas> Seveas, that's a bit of a prob because I cant set up dns with ifconfig
[02:11] <Efils_God> what packs are these?
[02:11] <kestas> hyphenated, thanks great idea
[02:11] <kestas> hyphenated, 1 sec Ill try it out
[02:11] <Seveas> kestas, if you have a static IP, dns server addresses go in /etc/resolv.conf
[02:12] <kestas> Seveas, hmm k
[02:12] <NutterUK> Hi
[02:12] <kestas> hyphenated, yes that works fine
[02:13] <kestas> any ideas on why it doesn't do it on startup?
[02:13] <kestas> one thing; I installed it, but then I changed the interface card just after installing it
[02:13] <_native_> do prism2.5 pcmcia usually work out the box?
[02:13] <kestas> because the card doesn't like linux
[02:13] <kestas> could this have messed up a config file?
[02:14] <qiHEWSfi> all interfaces are found in etc/network/interfaces file
[02:14] <kestas> Seveas, I could get the interfaces file for you but I would have to install smbfs and copy it over to this machine, and upload it from here
[02:14] <qiHEWSfi> or type ifconfig in terminal
[02:14] <kestas> and it looks okay
[02:14] <hyphenated> kestas: could have, but I'd look for something more obvious first :-)
[02:14] <kestas> qiHEWSfi, thanks for that nugget of wisdom ;p
[02:14] <Seveas> kestas does it have an 'auto eth0' line?
[02:14] <kestas> Seveas, 1 sec Ill check
[02:14] <qiHEWSfi> kestas yeah well you have to know the basics too :)
[02:14] <iiiears> Seveas you are awesome. ;)
[02:15] <hyphenated> kestas: can you install 'etherconf' and configure it with that?
[02:15] <qiHEWSfi> ifconfig eth0 inet dhcp up
[02:15] <qiHEWSfi> that's all it takes
[02:15] <[matrim] > I need osme help, how do I restrict a user to only access it's home directory, so basicly the home/$user should be the root directory?
[02:15] <amitayk> How do I make Windows my default in the dual boot screen?
[02:15] <kestas> Seveas, nope, I added it, I think you may have cracked it :)
[02:16] <woland_> hello guys! i recently advised a friend to try ubuntu which she like very much, can anyone point me in the direction of a newbies guide that she can learn from?
[02:16] <kestas> Seveas, any idea why it didn't add it itself though?
[02:16] <kestas> Seveas, rebooting now btw
[02:16] <deeler> does ubuntu support the asc39320 SCSI controller ?
[02:16] <qiHEWSfi> if you don't wanna boot just type ifconfig et0 inet dhcp up if the device is working in the hardware level
[02:16] <qiHEWSfi> kestas do that first
[02:16] <kestas> qiHEWSfi, I already have, the device works
[02:16] <kestas> qiHEWSfi, it just doesnt start up automatically
[02:16] <kestas> qiHEWSfi, but it proabbly does now
[02:17] <qiHEWSfi> maybe you need to have auto anyway
[02:17] <qiHEWSfi> or allow-hotplug eth0 and auto eth0
[02:17] <qqqquad> hi there
[02:17] <kestas> riiight
[02:17] <linxeh> deeler: it is supported by the aic79xx module in the kernel, so ubuntu should support it
[02:17] <Murrlin> dangit. how do I move the top toolbar around?
[02:17] <Efils_God> im missing the gstreamer0.8-lame package on synaptic would this be affecting the audio?
[02:17] <deeler> thx linxeh
[02:18] <kestas> Seveas, thanks you nailed it
[02:18] <amitayk> Hi. How do I make Windows XP my default in the dual boot screen?
[02:18] <kestas> Seveas, I owe you one
[02:18] <linxeh> deeler: http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.6/1/Documentation/scsi/aic79xx.txt (the module notes)
[02:18] <[matrim] > anyone good at user acount handling
[02:18] <linxeh> [matrim] : just ask a specific question
[02:18] <kestas> Seveas, I wish this chan had more people like you and hyphenated who dont just talk about KDEvsGNOME and how to mount ntfs volumes
[02:18] <[matrim] > i did and noone replied :P
[02:18] <kestas> bye
[02:19] <linxeh> when they log in ?
[02:19] <[matrim] > I need tp restict a user that accesses from ssh to only be able to acces the home directory
[02:19] <Enlite> I just installed apache2 and php4, but any php file prompts to download..
[02:19] <linxeh> how are they going to run a shell? or ls?
[02:20] <jtan325> anyone know what the mutliverse is?
[02:20] <jtan325> the defaults seem to be broken
[02:20] <jtan325> !multiverse
[02:20] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[02:20] <Stormx2> !repos
[02:20] <ubotu> somebody said sources was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[02:20] <iiiears> amitayk - grub has a config file you can edit using visudo
[02:20] <iiiears> !grub
[02:20] <Seveas> !no multiverse is <reply> see repositories
[02:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:20] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[02:21] <amitayk> iiiears: Where I can find visudo and that file?
[02:21] <jtan325> thanks
[02:21] <herrpoonstrikes> i cant seem to access ubuntuforums.org
[02:21] <herrpoonstrikes> anyone else having problems?
[02:22] <_jason> herrpoonstrikes:  yes
[02:22] <linxeh> amblin: try the locate command
[02:22] <herrpoonstrikes> thanks
[02:22] <MenZa`> Yep, can't.
[02:22] <MenZa`> I'll try pinging it.
[02:22] <[matrim] > hiw do I restrict SSH users to specific directoried, I don't want them to sniff alt he way back to my /root
[02:22] <qqqquad> Hi there i changed my nick from its previous, and now its diffret, since chaning the nick i have not flamed or been rude
[02:23] <linxeh> [matrim] : did you read my replies ?
[02:23] <nalioth_zZz> [matrim] : restrict their access on the box (user permissions)
[02:23] <qqqquad> therefore i am not the same
[02:23] <jtan325> has anyone gotten dual-head working (not twinview)?
[02:23] <Stormx2> Ack. Seveas, what disadvantages would a root account have?
[02:23] <Stormx2> !root
[02:23] <ubotu> somebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:23] <linxeh> gah, why is that wiki on https?!
[02:24] <Efils_God> if i don't have the gstreamer0.8 package is that going to affect audio?
[02:24] <[matrim] > linxeh, sorry, didn't see them, They are going to be shell users
[02:24] <Seveas> (teamwork ;)
[02:24] <linxeh> [matrim] : sure, but if you restrict their access to just their home directory they wont be able to get to /bin for things like their shell and normal userspace commands like ls
[02:25] <iiiears> ami, the file to edit is in /boot/grub  - your editor of choice will need root priv. to edit (psst, i often use gksudo gedit - IMPORTANT CHECK your spelling and syntax twice else a mistake will make life hard after a reboot.)
[02:25] <linxeh> [matrim] : you are better off not allowing people access to things you dont want them to see using directory permissions (making things readable by yourself or a group of users))
[02:26] <qiHEWSfi> so does the alsa system need a reboot for all settings to be recycled?
[02:26] <qiHEWSfi> or is there a direct way of doing that
[02:26] <bestadvocate> Morning everyone (atleast to those in my timezone), I have a big problem with my laptop hard crashing, and I was wondering if anyone has the ability to help me figure out why its happening and how i can stop it.
[02:27] <amitayk> iiiears: I've the priv. but I really don't have a clue how to run an editor from the Ubuntu GUI...
[02:27] <qiHEWSfi> alt-f2
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> amitayk, try this ... sudo gedit /boot/grub
[02:27] <Efils_God> hmm i had xine gstream package installed but not totem is that why it didn't work?
[02:27] <BooZee> is there a program like GAIM which has more features in it?
[02:28] <apokryphos> BooZee: what type of features? Alternatives are Kopete and aMSN
[02:28] <MenZa`> Isn't Kopete for kde though?
[02:28] <iiiears> amitayk - visudo is safer as i believe it checks syntax. but if you are like me vi is a struggle. so "gksudo gedit" will bring up a familiar notepad with root priveledges.
[02:28] <bestadvocate> BooZee: the Gaim developer was recently hired by google, and he is busy integrating the Google instant messanger's Video capacity into Gaim, so, more features to come :)
[02:28] <BooZee> apokryphos:  is aMSN usable for icq and aim too?
[02:28] <apokryphos> MenZa`: you can of course run kde apps in GNOME just fine
[02:28] <apokryphos> BooZee: it is
[02:28] <MenZa`> Beats me. Linux noob. just their website says "The KDE IM"
[02:28] <MenZa`> :P
[02:29] <apokryphos> BooZee: as in, not usable I mean, sorry
[02:29] <MenZa`> but okay :D
[02:29] <Efils_God> now its saying could not open resource for writing
[02:29] <apokryphos> BooZee: it only handles the msn protocol
[02:29] <amitayk> wickedpuppy: Where can I type it? I need a sort of a terminal or something to write it down...
[02:29] <apokryphos> MenZa`: yes, it's KDE's IM. But *all* KDE apps can be run in GNOME
[02:29] <wickedpuppy> amitayk, yes .. in a terminal
[02:29] <MenZa`> Yep, okay :)
[02:29] <apokryphos> providing you have the necessary depends
[02:29] <amitayk> wickedpuppy: And how do I open one?
[02:29] <BooZee> apokryphos:  and kopete can handle more protocols?
[02:29] <waime> apokryphos: Is the same true the other way around - Gnome apps on KDE I mean
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> amitayk, you going to be using terminal often in linux so pls get used to it... accessories ->terminal
[02:30] <apokryphos> BooZee: many, yes
[02:30] <[matrim] > linxeh, thanks, I think I got it fixed now
[02:30] <apokryphos> !tell BooZee about kopete
[02:30] <apokryphos> waime: indeed
[02:30] <BooZee> nice... 10x
[02:30] <waime> apokryphos: Sweet!
[02:31] <amitayk> wickedpuppy: I know that already, but I didn't know how to open one. I've worked with neither a unix-like program nor Linux dist.
[02:31] <iiiears> amitayk - drag and drop it to one of the taskbars it will stick there. - kinda handy actually.
[02:31] <bestadvocate> anyone have any idea on where/how I can find out why my laptop is crashing hard?
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> amitayk, i just told ya... accessories-> terminal
[02:32] <waime> to change from ubuntu to kubuntu (or the other way around) Is it enough to just go through synaptic to get the kubuntu-desktop or the ubuntu-desktop?
[02:32] <jtan325> has anyone gotten dual-head to work?
[02:32] <apokryphos> waime: yes
[02:32] <Efils_God> for gods sake why won't my audio work
[02:33] <Efils_God> is ther any faqs for it?
[02:33] <waime> amitayk: Or right-click the desktop and click 'Open Terminal'
[02:33] <Revellion> jtan325: dual-head in what context? :)
[02:33] <Murrlin> my top toolbar is stuck on the right or left. how do I move it back to the top?
[02:33] <Hendric> hello all
[02:33] <apokryphos> !tell Efils_God about sound
[02:33] <jtan325> Revellion, dual-head with a laptop and a second lcd monitor?
[02:33] <Revellion> should work
[02:33] <waime> Murrlin: right click it and click on properties. It should give you the option to do so
[02:34] <Revellion> most laptops i've seen only have one display pipeline
[02:34] <waime> apokryphos: thanks .
[02:34] <jtan325> yea i have twinview working
[02:34] <Revellion> so there's a choice between Laptop TFT or the external monitor :\
[02:34] <jtan325> but dual-head...
[02:34] <Revellion> jtan325: nvidia?
[02:34] <jtan325> yea
[02:34] <Revellion> jtan325: should be easy
[02:34] <amitayk> iiiears: it's seems I don't have the priv. as I thougth, or I writed something wrong.
[02:34] <jtan325> i know, i thought so
[02:34] <Revellion> to just use tvinview and/or xinerama
[02:34] <jtan325> i've followed the instruction
[02:34] <bobi__> hi everybody
[02:34] <bestadvocate> has anyone else had problems with Synapic running while hard crashes for all of Ubuntu have taken place?
[02:34] <jtan325> what's the difference between xinerama and dual-head?
[02:34] <jtan325> or is xinerama = dual-head?
[02:35] <Revellion> jtan325: Twinview is Nvidia's own version of Xinerama
[02:35] <bestadvocate> hi bobi__
[02:35] <jtan325> nvidia's instructions doesn't mention xinerama at all
[02:35] <Revellion> Xinerama is the official way the Xserver handles dual/triple/your num-headsw
[02:35] <Revellion> *heads
[02:35] <waime> another one: If you have both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop, how do you change between the two? Or are they mutually exclusive?
[02:35] <jtan325> yea so i have twinview working...
[02:35] <jtan325> where i can drag windows between screens
[02:35] <Revellion> jtan325: Clone or Extended?
[02:35] <Efils_God> THANK YOU
[02:35] <jtan325> extended
[02:35] <Efils_God> it works
[02:35] <Revellion> jtan325: ah
[02:35] <Revellion> jtan325: and you desire?
[02:35] <Murrlin> waime: I would but the apps icons are huge and taking up all the space on the panel
[02:35] <bobi__> I'm quite new to ubuntu and am looking for a friendly HTML editor and a FTP client to maintain my website. Which do you recommend?
[02:36] <jtan325> uhhh 'separate screens'
[02:36] <Efils_God> was the fact i had flash using the sound :/
[02:36] <Revellion> jtan325: ah
[02:36] <jtan325> that's what i thought dual-head meant
[02:36] <Revellion> like :0.0 and :0.1 ?
[02:36] <Murrlin> waime: hold-dragging it only moved it to the right or left
[02:36] <bestadvocate> alas i am asking unpopular questions
[02:36] <Revellion> two entirely seperate desktops?
[02:37] <jtan325> yes, i think
[02:37] <spiral_shell> Hi, where are all the fonts stored on ubuntu?  (if it is the same as general linux, I still dont know!)
[02:37] <jtan325> here's my xorg
[02:37] <Revellion> jtan325: dcc it my way
[02:37] <iiiears> bobi - check out mozilla's NVU editor. - full featured wysiwyg
[02:37] <Revellion> and i'll fix it up for ya
[02:37] <jtan325> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3596
[02:37] <Revellion> or use pastebin..
[02:38] <jtan325> it seems consistent with nvidia's instructions, as well as other people's xorg's i've found on google
[02:38] <bestadvocate> bobi__ i would seccond iiiears motion
[02:38] <Revellion> jtan325: it seems in order
[02:38] <jtan325> hmmm yea
[02:38] <Revellion> also i don't see TwinView activated at all :|
[02:39] <jtan325> well right now i am using twinview
[02:39] <jtan325> i thought dual-head was independent of twinview
[02:39] <waime> Murrlin: there's usually enough space if you right-click enough times or right at the edges (so top and bottom in your case)... otherwise I'm sure there's a config file somewhere that lets you hard-code it, but I don't know where... sory :(
[02:39] <jtan325> so i have two xorg's
[02:39] <jtan325> the problem i get when i use the dual-head xorg
[02:39] <Revellion> jtan325: it depends. that config you have in the pastebin
[02:39] <Murrlin> well I had to delete two of the app icons
[02:39] <Revellion> should theoretically give 2 X screens
[02:39] <Murrlin> it's back now. *curse*
[02:39] <Revellion> :0.0 and :0.1
[02:39] <jtan325> yea
[02:39] <jtan325> do i have to do anything else?
[02:39] <jtan325> the problem i'm getting is that
[02:39] <Revellion> hmm
[02:39] <jtan325> gdm starts up, but the login screen doesn't appear...
[02:40] <jtan325> my laptop screen and my external monitor are both black
[02:40] <Murrlin> my next problem is how do I determine why I can't ping from one machine to the other? (only two, connected by crossover cable)
[02:40] <jtan325> and my external monitor appears to not be receiving input...
[02:40] <Bluemat> Anyone know of an text editor that has FTP built in??
[02:40] <Bluemat> besides emacs..
[02:40] <jtan325> the little green light on the power button goes to orange, if that makes any sense
[02:40] <jtan325> but
[02:40] <jtan325> i can see my cursor
[02:40] <jtan325> and i can type my login and password, it logs in
[02:40] <tom__> one more thing guys how do i make it so i have permanent access to my windows documents folder i keep on having to go to system disks and browsing from there
[02:40] <jtan325> but nothing shows still
[02:40] <jtan325> except my cursor
[02:41] <pirate> Is Ubuntuforums down? Or is it on my side?
[02:41] <jtan325> and my cursor can only move within the laptop screen's bounds
[02:41] <jtan325> pirate, i think it's down
[02:41] <jtan325> Revellion, does that make any sense?
[02:41] <Revellion> jtan325: it makes sense yup
[02:41] <iiiears> tom__ drag and drop your "My Documents" folder to the windows "Shared Documents" folder???
[02:42] <Revellion> jtan325: that has a simple reason
[02:42] <Revellion> the two screens are then seperate
[02:42] <bestadvocate> hello,  has anyone here have an idea were I might find help for a sudden and violent crashing that happens on my laptop while running the stable version of breezy?
[02:42] <Revellion> you could use a ugly hack to get between the two screens
[02:42] <Revellion> gonna see if i can find it
[02:42] <jtan325> uhhh
[02:42] <dcardamo> Does anyone know how to configure wpa_supplicant to connect to WEP networks using a WEP password?  I've only seen examples where it uses wep keys.
[02:42] <sorush20> hi.. guys..
[02:42] <amitayk> iiiears: I've successed to open the correct file (hopefully), but I don't know what to do next.
[02:42] <jtan325> so how would one get the cursor from one screen to the other?
[02:42] <tom__> ill try that but if that works i shouldn't be able to access it through the systems disk? Or does ubuntu hack the folder to access it?
[02:42] <waime> tom__: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[02:42] <sorush20> how you doing.. so there are really no viruses for linux at all..
[02:42] <cionimba> Hi!
[02:43] <jtan325> and i can live without an ugly hack, i'd rather get something to actually show up first :-)
[02:43] <bestadvocate> Hi, cionimba
[02:43] <iiiears> amitayk - congrats. - a bit intimidating at first but you'll do fine.
[02:43] <Revellion> jtan325: there's a tool i remember using
[02:43] <Revellion> jtan325: that warps the pointer over to the other screen
[02:43] <tom__> aha thanks
[02:43] <qiHEWSfi> wohoo it only takes 9 hours for ubuntu live torrent to complete on a T1 .. blllaaaah
[02:43] <jtan325> hrmmmm
[02:44] <qiHEWSfi> i'm almost done
[02:44] <Revellion> jtan325: then there's also... you could use Synergy to allow such behaviour :\
[02:44] <cionimba> Does anybody of you know how to configure LTSP sound on Ubuntu Breezy?
[02:44] <Revellion> jtan325: so that if your pointer goes past the right-side of the Laptop screen it warps to the other screen
[02:44] <jtan325> well i can live with twinview
[02:44] <amitayk> iiiears: There is a saying in Hebrew: "Maybe yes, a maybe not..."
[02:44] <amitayk> iiiears: There is a saying in Hebrew: "Maybe yes, and maybe not..."
[02:44] <jtan325> it'd be nice if i could set the default screen though
[02:44] <jtan325> in twinview
[02:44] <Revellion> jtan325: hmm?
[02:44] <Revellion> jtan325: the "RightOf" "LeftOf" decides that :\
[02:44] <iiiears> amitayk - check out the examples in these links. - but make sure you back up the original file and check your changes to the working file at least twice before you reboot.
[02:45] <iiiears> !grub
[02:45] <ubotu> I heard grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:45] <Revellion> jtan325: the screen that is to the left sort of becomes the default screenw
[02:45] <waime> amitayk: "what is sure, is that maybe" is the end of that saying I believe ;)
[02:45] <Revellion> or more like
[02:45] <qiHEWSfi> Yeah and if that sound expert could help me with the ALSA settings on my aureon fun .. do need to reboot to change the mic line mode from input to center/pfe output
[02:45] <Revellion> Screen 0 is the default
[02:45] <qiHEWSfi> do you know how to recycle the alsa driver and related systems..?
[02:45] <jtan325> yea i'd like to change that
[02:45] <Enlite> ubuntuforums.org down :(
[02:45] <bestadvocate> well, sorry if my repeated questions sounded like spam everyone, I shall bid you farewell.
[02:45] <jtan325> i'd like my laptop monitor to be my default screen
[02:46] <jtan325> and it's on the right of my external monitor
[02:46] <Belutz> jdub, you around?
[02:46] <jtan325> kind of anti-traditional setup
[02:46] <Ng> jtan325: so set the external monitor as screen 1 and leftof screen 0
[02:46] <jtan325> but that's the space constraint my small desk imposed :-)
[02:46] <jtan325> hmmm Ng?
[02:46] <Tiran> hi is there an apt-get isntall command for freenx install?
[02:47] <[matrim] > where to I turn of the "always save settings on ogout"?
[02:47] <jtan325> i'm not sure how to do that...
[02:47] <jtan325> ut
[02:47] <Tiran> any recommened FAQs?
[02:47] <Ng> jtan325: you should really read the twinview docs then :)
[02:47] <apokryphos> !tell Tiran about freenx
[02:47] <jtan325> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3597
[02:47] <Goan> problem:
[02:47] <Goan> ubuntu 5.10
[02:47] <Goan> get mozilla flash working.
[02:47] <Goan> question:
[02:47] <Goan> what reprository, what package?
[02:47] <jtan325> that's my xorg with twinview
[02:47] <Revellion> Goan: Universe
[02:47] <apokryphos> !tell Goan about enter
[02:47] <apokryphos> Revellion: multiverse
[02:47] <Revellion> ouch
[02:47] <Revellion> my bad :\
[02:47] <apokryphos> Goan: flashplayer-mozilla
[02:48] <apokryphos> there's also a flash-nonfree (or something), but haven't tried that
[02:48] <Revellion> aah, indeed multiverse
[02:48] <Revellion> should've checked my apt first :)
[02:48] <Ng> jtan325: your TwinViewOrientation entry is wrong by the looks of it, it should be something like "CRT-1 LeftOf CRT-0", but like I said, you should read the twinview docs
[02:48] <jtan325> hmm i have an idea of how to do it
[02:48] <jtan325> one question:
[02:48] <jtan325> to set my laptop screen as 0, and the other as 1?
[02:48] <apokryphos> Revellion: I normally just deduce what it would be considering the different components (/msg ubotu components)
[02:49] <Goan> multiverse means what?
[02:49] <jtan325> i do that in the Section "ServerLayout"?
[02:49] <jtan325> i.e. Screen 0 "LaptopScreen"
[02:49] <Enlite> can anyone get to ubuntuforums.org?
[02:49] <amitayk> iiiears: I should write 3 in the default option for choosing the forth booting option. Am I correct?
[02:49] <Ng> jtan325: I have no idea, I have an nvidia card with two monitor outputs, so I swap Screen 0 and Screen 1 with monitor cables ;)
[02:49] <jtan325> Screen 1 "ExternalScreen"?
[02:49] <apokryphos> Enlite: it's probably down; #ubuntuforums for clarification
[02:49] <jtan325> hmm ok
[02:49] <amitayk> waime: Well, it's another saying.
[02:49] <apokryphos> Goan: /msg ubotu components    and /msg ubotu repositories
[02:50] <iiiears> amitayk - i have posted my file is -not- dual boot but then more examples can't be bad right? - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/405188
[02:50] <falke> plz info about free nx..?infos?
[02:50] <psycode> I'm trying to ssh into an ubuntu system, and login in as root. but what should i enter as the password to root ? (the password of sudo isn't the password of root..)
[02:50] <apokryphos> !freenx
[02:50] <ubotu> I guess freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[02:51] <falke> !freenx
[02:51] <falke> thx
[02:51] <iiiears> !ssh
[02:51] <ubotu> ssh is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[02:51] <iiiears> !scp
[02:51] <ubotu> iiiears: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:51] <waime> !ssh
[02:51] <apokryphos> Guys, investigate with ubotu in /msg
[02:51] <waime> !freenx
[02:51] <ubotu> somebody said freenx was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[02:51] <qiHEWSfi> do i need to reboot for alsa device micinline mode change to catch up?
[02:52] <iiiears> apok, - psycode needed the info.
[02:52] <hexman4> hey.. how does one reconfigure their login script?
[02:52] <waime> sorry all
[02:52] <Goan> have i got it correctly... ubotu is some kind of software robot...
[02:52] <waime> anyway, thanks for the help. Ciao!
[02:52] <aftertaf> goan he s a bot
[02:53] <aftertaf> irc blootbot
[02:53] <Goan> thnx.
[02:53] <hexman4> hey.. how does one reconfigure their login script?
[02:53] <Goan> thanx for warning me about asking 3 questions in a row, but....
[02:53] <Goan> nobody answers the questions anyway...
[02:54] <hexman4> cause when i start up my machine, it looks weird, and says theres an invalid command on my loginscript
[02:54] <aftertaf> hexman4:  does it say which one? is it a standalone pc?
[02:54] <hexman4> this is a standalone pc
[02:54] <Bluemat> Anyone know of an text editor that has FTP built in??
[02:54] <Goan> do you say, that if I have this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[02:54] <sjmurdoch> Bluemat: Emacs has ange-ftp mode
[02:55] <Goan> in my /etc/apt/sources.lst then I can get mozilla-flashplayer
[02:55] <hexman4> aftertaf: i thought it would be like dpkg-reconfigure or something....
[02:55] <hexman4> but i dont know what to give it
[02:55] <apokryphos> Goan: yes, follow the instructions for adding the repository
[02:55] <qiHEWSfi> you should have main restricted universe multiverse . unless you want everything you get to be open-source have main universe
[02:56] <Bluemat> sjmurdoch, besides emacs..
[02:56] <qiHEWSfi> really no need to not use the one mentioned first
[02:57] <hexman4> aftertaf: any ideas?
[02:58] <aftertaf> hexman4:  hard to say. we ned to know the error message to know what the remey can be.
[02:58] <Amaranth> are the forums down for anyone else?
[02:58] <henryson_> how do i restart gstreamer?
[02:59] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: smeg is working nicely in breezy - any plans to make browsing for icons more visual? At the moment it's kind of hard to see what you're getting...
[02:59] <aftertaf> Amaranth:  which ones?
[02:59] <Bluemat> Anyone know of an text editor that has FTP built in besides emacs?
[02:59] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: Done.
[02:59] <pirate> I built a legacy nvidia kernel and installed the image, but the load ain't finding the kernel ... I built this with a custom kernel, but I've recently switched to installing kernels the Debian way... What am I missing? Final step to make the module?
[02:59] <andreas__> what is the default apache2 www root? can't seem to find in
[02:59] <andreas__> it
[02:59] <Amaranth> aftertaf: ubuntuforums.org
[02:59] <pirate> s/load/loader
[02:59] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: really? New debs or source?
[03:00] <iiiears> andreas - httdocs?
[03:00] <iiiears> andreas - httdocs?
[03:00] <andreas__> yes
[03:00] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: it's a beta
[03:00] <andreas__> where is it
[03:00] <pirate> I would look around... but ubuntuforms is my saviour... and it's down
[03:01] <adam_r> would anyone know why when i visit flahs pages my firefox crahses a few keyframes into the movie,
[03:01] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: aha - I'll be interested to see it :)
[03:01] <iiiears> andreas - ok. - lol now i am lost too. httdocs is root.
[03:01] <aftertaf> Amaranth:  would seem so...
[03:02] <Swearingen> ubotu: universal?
[03:02] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Swearingen
[03:02] <andreas__> where is the htdocs forlder. The folder to put the html files in
[03:02] <adam_r> in var/www
[03:02] <hexman4> aftertaf: check pm
[03:02] <aftertaf> gotcha hexman4  ;)
[03:03] <andreas__> I thought is was /var/www
[03:03] <adam_r> yeah sorryu /var/www
[03:03] <qiHEWSfi> if you want something other then nvidia defaults you could check out omega drivers for linux driver sets : http://www.omegadrivers.net/ . dont know if they have linux drivers, but the bios settings can improve your framerates also in ubuntu
[03:03] <PainKiller> could be in your homedir andreas__
[03:03] <PainKiller> /home/you/htdocs ?
[03:04] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: http://www.realistanew.com/images/alacarte/icons.png
[03:04] <Stormx2> I'm creating a Internet Explorer entry in the GNOME menu, what command should i use. At the moment I have wine /home/barney/.wine/dosdevices/c%3A/windows/iexplore.exe - this does nothing
[03:04] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: thank you !
[03:04] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: If you want to see more join #menueditor
[03:04] <pirate> The NV module & GLX were both working when I installed from source (and nvidia-glx-legacy), but when I rebooted they ceased.
[03:04] <andreas__> can't be /var/www becouse it contain stuff. Whan I browse my server it dont show anything
[03:04] <pirate> So hopefully building the deb will sort it out
[03:05] <adam_r> ie - ewww
[03:05] <Stormx2> I know
[03:05] <hexman4> aftertaf: check pm
[03:05] <Stormx2> but i need it for web developing
[03:05] <PainKiller> webdevvers
[03:05] <hans> pirate, did you also install glx-legacy?
[03:05] <PainKiller> need it
[03:05] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: maybe tomorrow - it's late here so I'll be gone in a few
[03:05] <PainKiller> indeed
[03:05] <adam_r> may i ask why you need ie in linux? not questioning just asking
[03:05] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: ok
[03:05] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: thanks for the link :)
[03:05] <Stormx2> Web Developing
[03:05] <adam_r> i see
[03:05] <Stormx2> It will be a great world when everyone uses Firefox, but untill then I need to see what it looks like in IE
[03:06] <Stormx2> I have it installed and I can run it in terminal with that command
[03:06] <Stormx2> wine /home/barney/.wine/dosdevices/c%3A/windows/iexplore.exe
[03:06] <pirate> Omg. This whole thing is wobbly now.
[03:06] <PainKiller> in Winxp, I still use an IE-based browser - Maxthon
[03:06] <PainKiller> a lot of sites don't show well in firefox
[03:06] <Stormx2> in windows i Use K-Meleon
[03:06] <Stormx2> No but really
[03:06] <Stormx2> what would be the command.
[03:07] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: just had a look at the screenshot - looks cool :)
[03:07] <PainKiller> i have no clue, Stormx2, sorry
[03:07] <pirate> hans, still - nvidia.ko is non-existant
[03:07] <hans> ok
[03:07] <Stormx2> Nevermind, I have it now.
[03:07] <PainKiller> Stormx2: you checked wine parameters in console?
[03:07] <Stormx2> Yes. Turns out the character escaping messed it up
[03:08] <Stormx2> Its working fine now
[03:08] <Stormx2> :) Thanks anyway
[03:08] <PainKiller> cool
[03:08] <pirate> What's the make-kpkg equiv. for make modules modules_install ?
[03:08] <pepper> hallo
[03:09] <_native_> man make-kpkg
[03:09] <pirate> Fair enough =)
[03:09] <taiho> Question: During Boot-up after installing the linux-image-2.6.10.5-686 and booting it up my system said something about VFS: No Ext3. I use a ReiserFS system for my /
[03:09] <pepper> i can.t instal gaim 1.15
[03:09] <pirate> apt-get install man... *twiddle thumbs*
[03:09] <_native_> or the module-assistant tool
[03:09] <TriKster-Abacus> oops
[03:09] <pepper> where i can find it
[03:09] <pirate> The module-ASSistant tool won't build the legacy... at least I don't know how to make it build the legacy...
[03:10] <Belutz> pepper, sudo apt-get gaim
[03:10] <_native_> lol
[03:10] <Belutz> pepper, sudo apt-get install gaim
[03:10] <qiHEWSfi> what do you know of the sdl error can't set palette that dosbox gives me
[03:10] <pepper> tnx i go try it
[03:10] <qiHEWSfi> i just need to run two stupid dos programs
[03:10] <qiHEWSfi> and dosbox won't start
[03:11] <qiHEWSfi> well, i could get dos 7.10 and have a real dos
[03:11] <qiHEWSfi> maybe will do that
[03:11] <iiiears> freedos?
[03:11] <thrush> taiho: I get same message and use reiser never really looked into it...
[03:12] <taiho> thrush, it works fine for you though? If so I am ok :P
[03:12] <qiHEWSfi> http://www.hilf-los.de/1dlmanager/download.php?id=86 figure the german page and get a enhanced true dos enviroment from a bootable cd
[03:12] <Morrowyn> damnit, my samba server cant be found on the workgroup :-/
[03:12] <thrush> taiho: fine for about 6mo ;)
[03:12] <hexman4> hey.. how does one reconfigure their gdm.conf?
[03:12] <taiho> thrush, thanks. Then I can breath normally :P
[03:13] <pepper> sorry i can not find it
[03:13] <iiiears> hexman - is your display resolution not set up right?
[03:13] <caonex> For my laptop i am forced to use vga=0 or vga=771 in order for ubuntu to finish loading. With or without the parameters, i am unable to see the splash loading screen. Is there a way to make ubuntu detect the monitor and not have to use vga and make it accept or work with vesafb?
[03:13] <ncp> does ubuntu support mounting of cue/bin files?
[03:14] <Bluemat> Anyone know of an text editor that has FTP built in besides emacs?
[03:14] <iiiears> ncp - check out sourceforge. - there is a project there have to apologize for not remembering it's title.
[03:14] <thrush> ncp: i could be wrong i thing you need to convert to iso
[03:14] <hexman4> iiiears: no.. it just gives me an error msg when i try to login
[03:14] <pepper> sorry i find not the new gaim 1.1.5
[03:15] <iiiears> hexman4, - what does the error say?
[03:15] <pepper> i can not instal 1.1.5
[03:15] <ncp> well theres is software to kde that can, so there should be one for gnome to
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> pepper, gaim is .. 1.5 on my ubuntu
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> why you want 1.5 ?
[03:15] <pepper> tnx
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> i mean 1.1.5
[03:16] <qiHEWSfi> if you have an older motherboard with ac'97 you will get full audio support for all games..
[03:16] <pepper> but i understand noting from this programm unbunto
[03:16] <adam_r> may i ask why you need ie in linux? not questioning just asking
[03:16] <qiHEWSfi> without ANY fighting with your retrogames
[03:16] <adam_r> would anyone know why when i visit flahs pages my firefox crahses a few keyframes into the movie,
[03:16] <pepper> i have the 1.1.4
[03:16] <hexman4> iiiears: check pm
[03:16] <qiHEWSfi> grub can boot it
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> pepper, you got 1.1.4 ?
[03:16] <pepper> yes en wil the 1.1.5
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> pepper, can you type this ? gaim -v
[03:16] <pepper> no
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> show me the output
[03:17] <wickedpuppy> gaim 1.1.* should be very old now
[03:17] <pepper> oke
[03:17] <wickedpuppy> pls update
[03:17] <iiiears> hexman4 - sry, i haven't seen that before.
[03:17] <pepper> i can not update
[03:17] <pepper> i try now fot 3 days for the new wan
[03:17] <wickedpuppy> pepper, are you using ubuntu ?
[03:17] <carecca> what package do i need to install to get dh_testdir ?
[03:17] <pepper> yes  i believe
[03:18] <wickedpuppy> pepper, sudo apt-get update
[03:18] <pepper> oke tnx
[03:18] <pepper> i try it now
[03:18] <hexman4> ok.. well when i upgraded to breezy it asked should i change it or keep the new one, so me being an idiot, kept the old one.. i think that might be the prob
[03:18] <ccooke> carecca: debhelper (dpkg -S dh_testdir)
[03:19] <hexman4> iiiears: check a few lines up
[03:19] <thrush> ncp: you could always apt-get whatever u use in kde..
[03:19] <carecca> ccooke: it could not be found
[03:19] <_native_> when will hardened ubuntu tools, packs, etc.. be included in the main repos
[03:20] <_native_> so i dont have to grab and build everything my self all the time
[03:20] <taiho> NTFS Mount was this and what addition? /dev/hdb1 /media/windows ro,user,auto, 0 0
[03:21] <carecca> ERROR: SDL_GL_LoadLibrary libGL.so.1 failed: No dynamic GL support in video driver
[03:21] <taiho> NTFS Mount was this and what addition? /dev/hdb1 /media/windows ntfs ro,user,auto, 0 0
[03:21] <henryson_> is there a nice friendly gui for setting up apache?
[03:21] <wickedpuppy> _native_, hardened ubuntu tools ?? can name one ?
[03:21] <eriksti> Hey .. anyone know of a good tool to generate UML from C++ code?
[03:21] <carecca> i get that when i try to run quake4 anon know what might be the problem ?
[03:21] <wickedpuppy> henryson_, webmin
[03:22] <_native_> vsecurity, selinux, ssp, pax, blah.....
[03:22] <qiHEWSfi> hey you dont need to fight with dos emulators and virtual enviroments , dos 7.10 is free and has moderate support for audio devices. mainly the ac'97 integrated chip in many middle-age'd pc's gives you full audio support and with the univbe drivers for your wideo carrd you will have TOTAL support for DOS games! get the bootable install disk http://www.hilf-los.de/1dlmanager/download.php?id=86
[03:22] <henryson_> isn't that a webserver in itself?
[03:22] <thrush> taiho: u looking for umask=0000 ?
[03:22] <Franzfranz> hi all
[03:22] <wickedpuppy> henryson_, webmin is not web server
[03:22] <taiho> thread, thanks once again :)
[03:22] <wickedpuppy> henryson_, www.webmin.org
[03:22] <qiHEWSfi> that's a friendly advice
[03:22] <Stormx2> guys, what is the difference between BMP and XMMS?
[03:22] <taiho> thrush, but I have seen people use umask=0002
[03:23] <wickedpuppy> Stormx2, xmms is audio player ... bmp is ... no idea what
[03:23] <Stormx2> they look like the same kinda thing
[03:23] <Franzfranz> Anyone uses the Jack Connection Kit with ALSA ?
[03:23] <Stormx2> BMP = Bit Music player
[03:23] <thrush> taiho: for my normal user i use either 0000 or 0100 dont know if that would be same for you
[03:23] <wickedpuppy> Stormx2, can bmp use gstreamer codec ?
[03:23] <Stormx2> Beep music player
[03:23] <Stormx2> actually
[03:23] <Stormx2> Not sure.
[03:24] <Stormx2> XMMS has MPEG-3 support built-in
[03:24] <Stormx2> :-\
[03:24] <Broness> hi guyz!!! =)
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> Stormx2, not built in ...
[03:24] <Stormx2> well
[03:24] <qiHEWSfi> that dos 7.10 enviroment supports fat32 too
[03:24] <taiho> thrush, I used umask=0002 now and it works fine. Don't know if it might has to do with experimental write drivers or something...
[03:24] <Stormx2> it was the first thing I installed when i installed breezy yesterday
[03:24] <Stormx2> and it played MP3s straight off.
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> Stormx2, you must have installed gstreamer as well
[03:25] <taiho> Is there any drivers for NTFS that allows rw, found some for mandrake a long time ago that worked.
[03:25] <Stormx2> wickedpuppy: No i didn't. And I still havn't
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> thats the codec that enables xmms to play mp3 ...
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> Stormx2, then you are not using ubuntu
[03:25] <Stormx2> wickedpuppy: Thats why I can't play MP3s on totem.
[03:25] <qiHEWSfi> well in my experience, i don't want to have a blank screen in wine and a sdl error for running a program to write an image to your floppy drive! not really a good first touch on the dosbox and wine emulation..
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> !restrictedformats
[03:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[03:25] <johnm> taiho: FUSE has an ntfs module which supports it via libntfs+xattr. claims to work
[03:25] <Broness> how do run programs that need active x in linux? =)
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> go check that page
[03:25] <Stormx2> wickedpuppy: I'm not stupid you idiot. I know its a restricted format. Try it for yourself.
[03:25] <Broness> how do you run programs that need active x in linux? =)
[03:26] <ncp> thrush, well i use gnome :( but found bchunk that could do the job
[03:26] <johnm> Broness: wine or cedega
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> mp3 is by default not enabled in ubuntu
[03:26] <Stormx2> Broness: I don't think you can
[03:26] <Stormx2> Broness: it won't work in WINE for me.
[03:26] <taiho> johnm, do they work for Ubuntu?
[03:26] <aftertaf> taiho:  there is captive too...
[03:26] <johnm> taiho: FUSE is a 2.6 kernel module. if you ahve the fuse userland tools, it will work on any 2.6 kernel.
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> Stormx2, i been using ubuntu for 1+ years ... you ?
[03:26] <qiHEWSfi> so if you have ac'97 and download a univbe dos mode universal video driver that's free and works on almost any cards giving full svga support for dos, that is the perfect dos platform after you get http://www.hilf-los.de/1dlmanager/download.php?id=86
[03:27] <waime> forgot to say - UBUNTUFORUMS IS UP, it's the DNS that's down.
[03:27] <waime> FLeiXiuS	The domain server is down for the forums. Please use : http://64.21.33.9 while we resolve the problem.
[03:27] <taiho> Thanks for the help. I'll wait untill there is a good support for NTFS under linux.
[03:28] <PainKiller> taiho: you running dual boot?
[03:28] <qiHEWSfi> you can share your dos 7.10 fat32 partition with ubuntu for example..
[03:28] <waime> taiho: You want to be reading from or writing to NTFS?
[03:28] <taiho> PainKiller, yes, I am running dual boot with a NTFS drive to be able to use large files on windows
[03:28] <punkie> I need to install the package 855resolution because i have a Intel graphic-chip
[03:28] <qiHEWSfi> i plan on installing permanent on my machine ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, opensuse, openbsd and dos 7.10 .. talk about good support with no fuzz
[03:29] <johnm> taiho: it's best if you can to make a new vfat partition
[03:29] <taiho> waime, I am already reading from and it would be fun to be able to write to NTFS. But I'll just boot into windows instead.
[03:29] <qiHEWSfi> and separate ubuntu platforms for different kind of jobs
[03:29] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: seems like such a pointless task
[03:29] <PainKiller> taiho: i use another server in my network that uses samba, for intermediate storage
[03:29] <UpS> hi guys, does ubuntuforums working now?
[03:29] <punkie> but apt-get doesn't find the package
[03:29] <_root_> hello
[03:29] <qiHEWSfi> think i will use ubuntu for common use, kubuntu for graphics, multimedia, games, opensuse for programming, openbsd for secure connections and dos 7.10 for legacy games which really still rock and are free!
[03:30] <PainKiller> thats how I get files from ubuntu to my ntfs drives
[03:30] <punkie> does someone know the right servers to get it
[03:30] <qiHEWSfi> check out www.the-underdogs.org and tell me you dont need a dos platform
[03:30] <PainKiller> i can't read ext2 in winxp
[03:30] <waime> taiho: Right you are! Good luck with writing to it tho :S It's already a thrill to write to NTFS- Like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get :P
[03:30] <UpS> it was a nice topic there how to install and tweak microsoft fonts on ububtu...
[03:30] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: Im quite happy with something like freedos + qemu/vmware
[03:30] <taiho> PainKiller, if you use Totalcommander there is a plugin to read ext2/3 on their homepage
[03:30] <Broness> what is cedega?
[03:30] <PainKiller> ok taiho, thanks, i'll look into that
[03:31] <Broness> how do i download it for ubuntu?
[03:31] <qiHEWSfi> and my upcoming net-studies in a finnish lukio will be done with edubuntu which will greatly be enhanced in the next apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[03:31] <taiho> waime, yes, I know. I'll just boot to windows when I need to write to the NTFS disk
[03:31] <PainKiller> taiho: does that plugin write to ext2/3 ?
[03:31] <johnm> Broness: like wine, but forked and geared more towards gamers. check out cedega on the web
[03:31] <_root_> doubt regarding nscd!!
[03:31] <taiho> PainKiller, I use it myself when in windows and it works like a charm. I believe it can write to it.
[03:31] <PainKiller> cool
[03:31] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: and why not use a normal ubuntu install? :)
[03:31] <qiHEWSfi> taiho i think ntfs is dead for a linux user. fat32 is the compatible system for simple sharing, ntfs is the windowz killer which is sort of a prison for your data
[03:31] <derchilligephil> hi!
[03:32] <Broness> does cedega have a service for free or for a fee? =)
[03:32] <qiHEWSfi> johm because i wanna have that system on my machine
[03:32] <derchilligephil> what should i use for a graphic lib?
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> Broness, google for cedega ...
[03:32] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: then install it.
[03:32] <qiHEWSfi> and after i install another
[03:32] <derchilligephil> GTK. Motif
[03:32] <waime> PainKiller: Use explore2fs
[03:32] <waime> Broness: it's $3 per month
[03:32] <derchilligephil> what is recommened
[03:32] <taiho> My system doesn't seem to have full support for ALSA installed. What are the files needed to install correctly?
[03:32] <derchilligephil> GTK ?
[03:32] <UpS> Hi All! Can anybody help me?
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> derchilligephil, you forgot qt ?
[03:33] <_root_> after starting service nscd, whenever i try to add password for a new user then it fails.. how can i add the password to the nscd cache?
[03:33] <Swearingen> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[03:33] <derchilligephil> i want to download azureus
[03:33] <derchilligephil> :)
[03:33] <Swearingen> anyone seeing that?
[03:33] <derchilligephil> and there is GTK and motif
[03:33] <qiHEWSfi> johm hd i can just divide the whole system with insert network and hd anylysis disc called 'insert'
[03:33] <wickedpuppy> derchilligephil, i was told motif azureus is faster ...
[03:33] <manuvcube> UpS: just ask
[03:33] <derchilligephil> ah k
[03:33] <wickedpuppy> but i use gtk version and its fine :P
[03:33] <qiHEWSfi> johm just run ubuntu install in expert mode and reinstall grub afterwards
[03:33] <derchilligephil> i have severall problems setting up azureus
[03:33] <wickedpuppy> derchilligephil, #azureus-users
[03:33] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: i still dont see the pointy personally. one install is more than capable of doing all that itself. I think what would be a better use of time would be to learn how :)
[03:34] <derchilligephil> on this server?
[03:34] <wickedpuppy> yup
[03:34] <derchilligephil> nice
[03:34] <derchilligephil> thx
[03:34] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: of course, whatever you want to do really.
[03:34] <wickedpuppy> np :P
[03:34] <_root_> johnm: can u answer my question ?
[03:34] <punkie> does any one know a apt-get server to download 855resolution?
[03:34] <johnm> _root_: not got a clue im afraid.
[03:35] <qiHEWSfi> johnm points: major wisdom in linux, which is not on just debian but the best of the best, good support for anything you need, and let alone the handyness of just booting to your os which suits your work. no interruptions sort of
[03:35] <UpS> I need a nice doco how to setup ms core fonts on ubuntu and how to make fonts looks like in windows. i think ububtu has bytecode interpreter switched "on" in freetype so only some config tweaks needs to be done as I think....anybody can help or point to the link?
[03:36] <UpS> it was a topic on ububtuforums.org but the forum looks like in down now...
[03:36] <_root_> johnm: when running nscd and a package adds a user, the script will fail
[03:36] <_root_> (nscd caches old passwd table):
[03:36] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: that made no real sense.. but I think if what you're saying is using more than just debian will help you... then you're probably right. Debian imo isn't the most ideal of development platforms but a single OS (linux especially since I know it well enough to comment) is more than capable of doing all that without needing multiple installations
[03:36] <qiHEWSfi> johnm the platforms are afterwards specialized to fit your needs when doing the spesific job, and frankly, the opensuse is itself the perfect programming platform
[03:37] <qiHEWSfi> johnm and your fat32 with dos 7.10 contains every legacy game and they _work_ , then kubuntu for some hc network fps
[03:37] <manuvcube> 	ups: The domain server is down for the forums. Please use : http://64.21.33.9 while we resolve the problem.	
[03:38] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: Well I'd ask why you didnt think about vmware? then I'd ask why you can't install the dev libs/tools on ubuntu to give you the same functionality, then I'd ask why you can't have everything you need on a single install :)
[03:38] <[matrim] > hey, is there a program to monitor SSH connections?
[03:38] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: and you can install dos 7.10 on vmware, without needing to reboot.
[03:39] <qiHEWSfi> johnm isnt't the bios boot cd system the thing that is hardware-made to work for that
[03:39] <UpS> manuvcube, thanks for this! :)
[03:39] <manuvcube> uw
[03:39] <andris> hello...
[03:39] <qiHEWSfi> johnm you can't really emulate everything and expect everything to work
[03:39] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: a bios boot cd system? I have no idea what one of them are ;)
[03:39] <_root_> johnm: hope you got it
[03:40] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: vmware doesn't emulate.
[03:40] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: vmware, xen etc are virtualised servers, so they are totallyt different.
[03:40] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: it's the same as running it on real hardware, except the hardware isn't neccessarily real.
[03:40] <_root_> anybody there to answer my question ?
[03:40] <qiHEWSfi> johnm ill check out wmwave
[03:40] <Broness> johnm: is there anyway to "bypass" active x in ubuntu?
[03:40] <[matrim] > i need program that shows who's connected to me via ssh. any tips?
[03:41] <andris> i'm linux newbie... how to change the monitor refresh rate??
[03:41] <qiHEWSfi> johnm do you know of the official website?
[03:41] <johnm> Broness: not really no. activex is a component of a windows app-design. what is asking you about activex?
[03:42] <BooZee> hello, help needed - i've canceled the screen saver and now the monitor isn't shutting down after a while of idle.
[03:42] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: vmware.com? vmware is actually pay-to-use stuff, although it is very good. There are linux alternatives like qemu, which is good for DOS but not very sophisticated.
[03:42] <borisyeltsin> so I've got a source deb that I'm trying to build and I have libmp4v2 and libmp4v2-dev installed, and yet it still won't build with support for mp4v2. how do I point the configure script to the mp4v2 stuff?
[03:43] <qiHEWSfi> johnm so you see? you have to pay for the good, but since dos 7.10 is community developed, isn't that what this whole thing is about
[03:43] <qiHEWSfi> johnm i just wish they would have continued on 7.10
[03:43] <Broness> johnm: desperately need to install some games. i'm operating an internet shop. I have successfully downloaded some online games and wine but i could not install the games. it keeps asking for Active X. and when i load Active X it could not find the right directory.
[03:44] <creuwzy> i'm linux newbie... how to change the monitor refresh rate??
[03:44] <brenner> BooZee: checked the advanced tab in screensaver options?
[03:44] <brenner> ubotu: tell creuwzy about fixres
[03:45] <qiHEWSfi> johnm and the bios boot cd system is the hardware-standardized launcher for bootable cd's like ubuntu install and dos 7.10 . a virtual or emulated prog does not sound good for os installation
[03:45] <johnm> Broness: you're trying to run then trhough wine yes? tbh, wine isn't perfect. The best thing is maybe to give cedega a quick try after checking the online games database thing.
[03:45] <steigweis> wer hat erfahrungen mit firefox 1.5? is der endlich mal schneller gewoirden?
[03:45] <brenner> creuwzy: that link is for resolution, but the monitor rates thing is what you need and is described there as well
[03:45] <qiHEWSfi> johnm would like to continue on this but now for a 5 min break
[03:45] <johnm> qiHEWSfi: Well you seem tyo know what you want to do, and no amount of suggestions will change that. However im happy to talk about it
[03:45] <steigweis> who uses new firefox 1.5? has it become faster?
[03:46] <brenner> 1.5 is new?
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> steigweis, who has firefox 1.5 ?
[03:46] <creuwzy> thanx very much...
[03:46] <BooZee> brenner:  yes, and the power managment is working
[03:46] <steigweis> wickedpuppy: thats my question
[03:46] <[matrim] > is there a good ssh connections monitor?
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> steigweis, i got 1.0.7
[03:47] <brenner> BooZee: working == enabled?
[03:47] <BooZee> yep
[03:47] <Broness> johnm: thanks a lot! you were a very big help. :) keep it up! :)
[03:47] <steigweis> wickedpuppy: yes, me to. but there is the 1.5 beta available
[03:47] <adam_r> hi
[03:47] <brenner> BooZee: but it isn't....and that's your problem?
[03:47] <BooZee> yep
[03:47] <brenner> *isn't working
[03:47] <creuwzy> device manager not recognize my proccessor.... is that ok??
[03:48] <Blissex> creuwzy: probably OK, not much depends on processor type.
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> steigweis, beta 2 .. so they jumped from 1.0.7 to 1.5 ?
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> reminds me of java
[03:48] <steigweis> think so
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> only in java 1.2 == 2 will return true
[03:49] <brenner> BooZee: not sure if that's a bug or not.....maybe just set the screensaver to blank at the same time as the time you've set in the power mgt option
[03:49] <BooZee> but it will still work (the monitor..)
[03:49] <brenner> i.e. turn it back on
[03:50] <ciel> OLA
[03:51] <ciel> alguem pode me ajudar, meu GAIN nao consegue acessar...
[03:51] <brenner> BooZee: dunno, sorry.
[03:52] <adam_r> i use linux because i cant afford a windows licence
[03:52] <rob__> ?
[03:53] <brenner> ciel:  Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> first time i hear someone who can't afford a windows license
[03:53] <adam_r> im like 17
[03:53] <ciel> gracias brenner
[03:53] <adam_r> i earn like $400 a week
[03:53] <adam_r> aud
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> normally nobody i know buy windows
[03:53] <ciel> i am from brazil
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> lol
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> ciel, hello!! i like pele
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> :P
[03:54] <ciel> yes...all like pele
[03:54] <adam_r> bye
[03:54] <titanium> if i'm adding a user as an ftp user only is it reasonable to make their home directory /dev/null?
[03:54] <titanium> or perhaps should i use something else
[03:55] <brenner> anyone familiar with zlib?  i'm compiling and get this: "ZLIB >= 1.1.0 is required".  i have zlib1g(1.2.3) and zlib1g-dev(1.2.3) installed (breezy)....why isn't it recognising the libs?
[03:56] <johnm> titanium: I'd suggest /bin/false but yes.
[03:56] <johnm> titanium: not the home directory though
[03:56] <johnm> titanium: the users shell.
[03:56] <johnm> titanium: the home dir is still important for ftp :)
[03:56] <titanium> johnm: yeah thats what im using for their shell.
[03:56] <titanium> johnm: oh
[03:57] <johnm> titanium: you will probably want to check tha tthe ftpd is configured to chroot them to ~ though.
[03:57] <titanium> ah crap it is configured that way
[03:57] <johnm> titanium: that means they can't descend any futher down the file tree.
[03:57] <titanium> i had my system set up and had to reformat yesterday, i backed up stuff like the proftpd conf but forgot how to re-set up the user accounts. :P you're right, that's how i had it before. thanks
[03:58] <johnm> titanium: np/.
[03:58] <titanium> hehe
[03:58] <titanium> i did a chown -R root:root / as root ;P system was working great until then
[03:59] <johnm> titanium: yeah, not the best move ;)
[03:59] <johnm> titanium: if you want security, check out grsec, pax and RBAC (all part of grsec)
[03:59] <johnm> titanium: might be a steep learning curve though
[04:00] <taiho> problem setting NVIDIA up. Installed nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx nvidia-settings
[04:01] <Bluemat> How do you delete info from the keyring..?
[04:02] <watnou> Bluemat: with the right tool or an editor
[04:03] <vir_db> hi folk!
[04:04] <locust> hi
[04:04] <brenner> is packages.ubuntu.com down?
[04:05] <_native_> pm me if you want'em
[04:05] <vir_db> I've a question... i'm looking for the list of patches applied to ubuntu-ppc kernel... somebody can help me?
[04:08] <brenner> nvm, it's just really slow
[04:08] <brenner> for me at least
[04:09] <pesco> How do I find out which package will provide a file "foo" again?
[04:09] <billytwowilly> so if I want to set cflags during a compile I would just go ./configure CFLAGS="-I/usr/include" right?
[04:09] <Bluemat> watnou, What tool?
[04:10] <vir_db> goodbye
[04:11] <brenner> pesco: dpkg -S foo (package needs to be installed) or packages.ubuntu.com
[04:11] <GigaClon> is there a way for me to set up a local cvs repo?
[04:11] <pesco> brenner: Hm, I'm sure there was a command that could do it for uninstalled packages, too, somehow...
[04:12] <brenner> pesco: probably....i don't know it obviously
[04:13] <CarlFK> HP Deskjet 812C - how do I do the cartridge cleaning thing?
[04:13] <pesco> Okay, but packages.u.o does it, so thanks!
[04:13] <pesco> ubuntu.com even
[04:14] <johnm> brenner: right. although it normally gives you a conmfigure option for that
[04:14] <johnm> billytwowilly: ^
[04:14] <brenner> johnm: re: compiling?
[04:14] <johnm> brenner: yeah, autocompleted the wrong nick
[04:14] <enyc> heeeelp ;p
[04:15] <billytwowilly> johnm, so if I'm trying to configure aac support into gtkpod and the libmp4v2 headers are in /usr/include then I would just use CFLAGS="-I/usr/include" then right?
[04:15] <Bluemat> watnou, What tool?
[04:16] <Bluemat> .clear
[04:16] <enyc> my system [was hoary, upgraded to breezy after breezy-release]  -- now fails [crashes]  logging into gdm/gnome....
[04:16] <brenner> johnm: i see options for prefixes, but zlib isn't among them
[04:16] <enyc> it DOES work if i use a 386 non-smp image
[04:16] <johnm> billytwowilly: not quite. the include path should look there for headers anyways. you will likely see a ./configure option something like --enable-aac or --with-aac[=/usr/include] 
[04:16] <enyc> it always _used_ to work....
[04:16] <johnm> billytwowilly: ./configure --help should work
[04:16] <Swearingen> can someone point me to a good sources.list for breezy + universal and such?
[04:17] <enyc> something in breezy changed/broken recently ;-(
[04:17] <brenner> johnm: yeah, that's what i'm looking at now
[04:17] <johnm> brenner: ah I didnt read ytou had an issue to :)
[04:17] <brenner> johnm: ha
[04:18] <brenner> looks like a similar problem though
[04:18] <derchilligephil> how can i update my java
[04:18] <pesco> Do you guys know if there is any outside funding for Ubuntu, yet, or is it all paid from Mark Shuttleworth's pocket so far?
[04:18] <Swearingen> I gave them $2.00
[04:18] <richard> lol
[04:18] <pesco> :) That's good.
[04:18] <johnm> brenner: yeah it does.
[04:19] <brenner> johnm: i see this: "--includedir=DIR        C header files in DIR [PREFIX/include] "  does zlib fall under C header files?
[04:19] <johnm> brenner: no zlib is something different. want to PM me and I'll got rhogh it. paste the error in there
[04:19] <Swearingen> so seriously, when try to add universe and some other repositories, I get a gpg error and some archives not found, anyone else seen this?
[04:20] <Ninjew> What is the first thing I should do to get involved in helping out with Dapper testing / devel. after switching my repos?
[04:21] <bur[n] er> Ninjew: make patches :)
[04:21] <richard> anyone know the configure switch to tell amarok to look for taglib1.4 in a different dir???
[04:21] <richard> i want to keep amarok 1.3.1 for now, and install 1.3.4
[04:21] <PainKiller> does anyone notice slow dvd burning in ubuntu?
[04:21] <bur[n] er> richard: 1.3.5 was just released
[04:22] <brenner> PainKiller: enabled DMA?
[04:22] <PainKiller> brenner: i'll check.. i think so
[04:22] <richard> ahh
[04:22] <richard> didn't realise
[04:22] <richard> which rpo?
[04:22] <richard> repo
[04:23] <derchilligephil> i need to upadte my java
[04:23] <derchilligephil> but i dont know how
[04:23] <derchilligephil> can anyone help me
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> Say, how can I disable the cute little splash screen thing that Breezy does while it's booting up (so I can just see the terminal lines)?
[04:24] <El_Che> esc
[04:24] <El_Che> ctrl + alt + f1
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> derchilligephil: The instructions on the Java site seem pretty good; have you looked at those?
[04:25] <lorenzod> tonyyarusso: sudo update-rc.d -f uspash remove ??
[04:25] <derchilligephil> im in with it :)
[04:25] <derchilligephil> just reading
[04:25] <derchilligephil> but how can i disable my old java
[04:25] <derchilligephil> or will it be updated
[04:26] <Ninjew> tonyyarusso: Change your /boot/grub/menu.lst and change nonaltoptions to 'nosplash'
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> derchilligephil: Presumably you could just delete the JRE directory.  Anyone know if this is true?
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> Ninjew: Thanks.
[04:26] <qiHEWSfi> try tarring the directory, upgrading, running setup and untarring
[04:26] <qiHEWSfi> rerun the java setup and replace the directory afterwards
[04:27] <qiHEWSfi> you might need to specify version etc. in a config file
[04:27] <derchilligephil> mh we will see :)
[04:27] <derchilligephil> brb
[04:27] <falke> hi, what is the command to install samba on ubuntu
[04:27] <Stormx2> Hey
[04:28] <Stormx2> Why is it that when i edit a PHP file, it creates the same file again except with a tidle (~) on the end?
[04:28] <Stormx2> so I'll save index.php and it will create index.php~
[04:28] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: automatic backing up
[04:28] <Stormx2> Hmm
[04:28] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: an "undo" feature if you will
[04:28] <Stormx2> Fair enough
[04:28] <tonyyarusso> Ninjew: What does the "quiet" part of the nonaltoptions line mean?  (It's in the comment as an example.)
[04:29] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: rm *~ works
[04:29] <Stormx2> Beep Music Player is really good, by the way. Its like XMMS but with a nicer interface
[04:29] <Ninjew> tonyyarusso: It supresses all of the kernel messages BEFORE init starts
[04:30] <dooglus> Stormx2: what editor is that?
[04:30] <tonyyarusso> Ninjew: Sorry, that was over my head.  (Still new to this-sigh.)
[04:30] <johnm> Stormx2: it *is* xmms with a nicer interface :)
[04:31] <bur[n] er> nicer == gtk2 as opposed to gtk1
[04:31] <Ninjew> tonyyarusso: sorry -- when linux boots, the kernel loads and shows a bunch of information about drivers loading, etc. Then, it executes 'init', which begins loading your OS programs -- a shell, the graphical display, etc
[04:31] <bur[n] er> dooglus: it's gedit
[04:31] <Ninjew> tonyyarusso: What 'quiet' does is it makes those kernel messages about drivers and whatnot not show up
[04:32] <dooglus> I have a dapper chroot.  When I tried updating it, it couldn't configure 'hal' - it just hung at that point.  What should I do?
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> Ninjew: Essentially meaning that the boot process looks a bit cleaner, but you might lose information that could be useful in case of problems, right?
[04:32] <Ar3s> Hola
[04:32] <dooglus> Hi Ars3
[04:32] <Bluemat> Guys, I want to be able to edit files remotely from a test editor like gedit, how would I go about doing this? I seem to be able to get the files into the editor, but on a read only basis, anyone?
[04:32] <lorenzod> dooglus: those are the risks you take with dapper
[04:32] <Ar3s> hi
[04:33] <lorenzod> dooglus: if you don't mind things like that happening, cool
[04:33] <dooglus> lorenzod: I think it's not dapper specific - I reckon even a breezy chroot would do the same
[04:33] <Ninjew> tonyyarusso: Not really -- you can still see those messages after a boot by running 'dmesg' in a terminal, and if your boot is hanging before init starts, you can manually turn off the 'quiet' flag by hitting escape at the GRUB bootloader (before the kernel starts booting0
[04:33] <Ninjew> tonyyarusso: So it looks cleaner, but the messages aren't really THAT important
[04:33] <derchilligephil> ok i installed java
[04:33] <CarlFK> http://ubuntulinux.org = "Bad Gateway  The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server."  is this my problem or ubuntu side?
[04:33] <derchilligephil> but when i type java -version
[04:34] <derchilligephil> its still the old one
[04:34] <lorenzod> dooglus: possible, but surely the problems go if you reboot?
[04:34] <thrush> Bluemat: why not just ssh in and vi?
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> Ninjew: Beautiful!  Sounds good to me.
[04:34] <Ninjew> tonyyarusso: I have quiet off because all the scrolling text looks cooler :)
[04:34] <derchilligephil> what should i do now
[04:34] <BooZee> I got a problam - I have an LCD screen. I don't want any screen saver cuz I heard it better just to use power managment shutdown (or go to standby) the monitor. So I did disabled the screen saver, but now the monitor won't go off. can someone help me with this? thank you!
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> Ninjew: True, that has it's attractions.
[04:34] <dooglus> lorenzod: the problems don't exist outside the chroot.  But I'd like to be able up update the chroot.
[04:34] <bur[n] er> BooZee: hit hte power button when you walk away ;)
[04:34] <BooZee> nice..
[04:35] <BooZee> and now for real .. ?
[04:35] <Bluemat> thrush, Because i dont want to use vi, alot of coding to be done and Im not use to vi, Want to have the ease of use of an editor like gedit
[04:35] <lorenzod> dooglus: can't help you there..
[04:35] <Ninjew> tonyyarusso: Oh, you may need to run 'sudo update-grub' after changing those settings in the grub.conf
[04:35] <dooglus> Bluemat: how are you running gedit remotely?
[04:35] <lorenzod> dooglus: I don't have enought hdd space to run dapper in a chroot
[04:36] <derchilligephil> should i copy all java bin files to /bin ?
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> Ninjew: Right.
[04:36] <lorenzod> so I'm upgrading Breezy->Dapper instead.
[04:37] <pesco> Hi again. Which would be the best way to install X.org from CVS an an existing Ubuntu, without harming the package management, and preferably not uninstalling the official package?
[04:37] <Bluemat> dooglus, Ive tried it a few ways, mainly by trying to ftp into the desired file even used a ssh session which uses sftp
[04:37] <Bluemat> dooglus, no joy tho
[04:38] <Bluemat> dooglus, can it be done?
[04:38] <dooglus> Bluemat: yes, run "ssh -X user@host"
[04:39] <dooglus> Bluemat: that'll get you a shell onto the remote host with DISPLAY set to send gedit back to the display you're sat at
[04:39] <dooglus> Bluemat: so then just run "gedit file" and the gedit will appear on your screen
[04:40] <iiiears> Seveas - canonical and ubuntulinux.org are unavailable. :?
[04:40] <Seveas> looks like it iiiears
[04:40] <bur[n] er> BooZee: u check in hte "screensaver" for the power management stuff?
[04:40] <conta> hola
[04:40] <Rotan> ubuntu site down?
[04:41] <BooZee> what's hte ?
[04:41] <bur[n] er> pesco: make .debs' out of the Xorg cvs
[04:41] <conta> espaol
[04:41] <BooZee> bur[n] er:  what's hte?
[04:41] <dooglus> BooZee: it's a typo for 'the'
[04:41] <conta> spanish
[04:41] <brenner> !es
[04:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:42] <conta> ok
[04:42] <Seveas> Rotan, iiiears, it'll be back soon
[04:42] <jack-> !hu
[04:42] <ubotu> jack-: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:42] <BooZee> bur[n] er:  oh, then yes
[04:42] <dooglus> !cz
[04:42] <ubotu> dooglus: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:42] <jack-> !za
[04:42] <ubotu> jack-: I give up, what is it?
[04:42] <Seveas> ....
[04:42] <jack-> !no
[04:42] <BooZee> power managment is enabled
[04:42] <ubotu> jack-: Are you smoking crack?
[04:42] <Seveas> don't play with the bot
[04:42] <jack-> !yes
[04:42] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, jack-?
[04:42] <jack-> :P
[04:42] <bur[n] er> BooZee: it doesn't work?
[04:42] <jack-> why not seveas :)
[04:42] <iiiears> No doubt. - must be doing something right to recieve so much attention ;)
[04:42] <bur[n] er> BooZee: to turn off the monitor after X minutes?
[04:42] <BooZee> bur[n] er:  nope
[04:42] <Seveas> !botabuse
[04:42] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[04:42] <BooZee> bur[n] er:  nope
[04:42] <PatrikJohansson> haha
[04:43] <jack-> oke :P
[04:43] <gimmulf> How do i find out which PostgreSQL version i shall install for my ubuntu systen?
[04:43] <gimmulf> or can i take anyone
[04:45] <PatrikJohansson> anyone here got photoshop cs2 running in ubuntu??
[04:45] <pitti> gimmulf: take postgresql-8.0 for breezy
[04:45] <gimmulf> oki pitti thanks
[04:45] <spola> i have a problem with playing ogg files in juk: they play as static (with output: gstreamer) when i play the same file in rhythmbox it works just fine. what should i do?
[04:45] <pesco> bur[n] er: Is there an easy way to do that?
[04:46] <pesco> I.e. one for which I don't need to know many details?
[04:46] <Bluemat> dooglus, I did that, and its sending the file back to me..in gedit, so thats the gedit thats on that machine, and not on mine..correct
[04:47] <dooglus> dooglus: type 'hostname' before running gedit.  you'll see which machine it's on
[04:47] <thrush> PatrikJohansson: I think theres a gimp addon to make the interface more photoshopy..I know not helpful :p
[04:48] <dooglus> thrush: it's called gimpshop isn't it?
[04:48] <bur[n] er> pesco: not sure with X packages... seems like a lot... easy with simple packages though
[04:48] <thrush> dooglus: is it? I mostly just deal in vague statements..
[04:49] <moot> dooglus, yes
[04:50] <pesco> bur[n] er: What will happen to the old packages?
[04:52] <sbartleylinux> Is there a way to remove Evolution without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[04:52] <bur[n] er> sbartleylinux: nope
[04:53] <Seveas> sbartleylinux, yes there is
[04:53] <sbartleylinux> :)
[04:53] <Revellion> Seveas to the rescue i see :)
[04:53] <Seveas> use equivs to create and install a dummy evolution package with version number 100
[04:53] <spola> is there something i can buy to get phone support for ubuntu?
[04:54] <moot> why do you need phone support?
[04:54] <Seveas> spola, see the marketplace at ubuntu.com
[04:54] <Revellion> spola: IRC support ain't good enough? O_o
[04:54] <Revellion> :P
[04:54] <spola> cuz this just aint doin it
[04:54] <dooglus> sbartleylinux: or create a new ubuntu-desktop package which doesn't depend on evolution
[04:54] <spola> thx Seveas
[04:54] <sbartleylinux> Seveas, can you explain what that does?
[04:54] <Bluemat> dooglus,  Its using gedit 0.94 on the old box Im remotely editing files, would it be possible to use the version on the box I am on currently: gedit.2.x  syntax highlighing etc.. ?
[04:55] <Seveas> sbartleylinux, it will trick your dpkg database into thinking you have evolution installed
[04:55] <dooglus> Bluemat: I don't use gedit.  I don't know if it has any ability to remotely edit files.
[04:55] <BooZee> how can I cloak my host/ip here in irc ?
[04:55] <snooo> hey ppl
[04:55] <sbartleylinux> Seveas, So once that is done, I can then do apt-get remove evolution?
[04:55] <Seveas> BooZee, www.freenode.net/faq.shtml
[04:55] <CarlFK> Ninjew - you asked about testing:  here is what I use for testing the ubuntu installer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet
[04:55] <snooo> right, i have a ati radeon 9200 card, which i bought for a song at 45
[04:55] <sbartleylinux> Seveas, or do I do that first then install ubuntu-desktop.
[04:55] <BooZee> 10x
[04:55] <Seveas> sbartleylinux, you don't need to, by installing the dumm package you remove the real package
[04:56] <Bluemat> dooglus, Do you know of an editor that can remotely edit files?
[04:56] <tom__> im back again guys with another question i can't find the answer for but it should be so easy to find
[04:56] <snooo> problem is, my games tend to crash randomly, and xvideo refuses to work
[04:56] <dooglus> Bluemat: I use GNU Emacs.
[04:56] <sbartleylinux> Seveas, ok. thx. I will see what I can do with that.
[04:56] <CarlFK> Ninjew - I have no idea what is the best use of your time, so don't take that that as a recomendation of what to focus on
[04:56] <snooo> should i try and get an nvidia card instead? is it likely the ati drivers?
[04:56] <Bluemat> Seveas, Do you know of an editor that can remotely edit files, besides Emacs
[04:56] <tom__> how do i install quake 4? I've downloaded the file from ID but how do i run the installer?
[04:56] <hyperz> hi @ all
[04:56] <spola> $250 a year for phone support ?!!
[04:56] <Seveas> Bluemat, vim via ssh
[04:56] <Seveas> (which is what I ue for web design :))
[04:57] <spola> jeezes ill settle with you guys then =p
[04:57] <dooglus> spola: phone support for less than a dollar a day?  how can that pay?
[04:57] <hyperz> lol
[04:57] <snooo> i'll say that again so its in one line
[04:57] <selinium> hi Seveas  :)  I had some probs with you lamp meta if you are interested :)
[04:57] <snooo> right, i have a ati radeon 9200 card, which i bought for a song at 45.  problem is, my games tend to crash randomly, and xvideo refuses to work
[04:57] <tom__> can someone point me to an faq that tells me how to install programs that don't have reposotories?
[04:57] <Seveas> selinium, what's the prob?
[04:58] <spola> dooglus, good point
[04:58] <tom__> anyone? i read in the faq that i copy files to a directory but what does the file i downloaded do?
[04:58] <thrush> spola: my experience the techs are just googling stuff while youre on the phone..
[04:59] <hyperz> ==>> dus any1 know a good site/link where i can learn how to work with linux , im new to all this stuff and need a little help :s
[04:59] <tom__> i can't see anything about it on the forums so it must be something simple but if it is why is there no guides to tell me what to do
[04:59] <Moorenkopf> hi, would you choose ubuntu for an old (600MHz) Notebook?
[04:59] <hyperz> moorenkopf , YES
[04:59] <dooglus> Bluemat: do yourself a favour and learn Emacs.
[04:59] <spola> thrush wow i should start workin there then ! :p
[05:00] <hyperz> Emacs ???
[05:00] <lorenzod> Moorenkopf: yeah, but I'd choose desktop environment accordingly.
[05:00] <selinium> Seveas, firstly it would not install because it winged about not being able to install phpmyadmin, so I installed phpmyadmin and tried to run it again and it still complaind about the missing phpmyadmin. Then I tried to remove phpmyadmin, and it was broken and unremovable! ompaul also installed phpmyadmin to see if there was a problem with the deb and he suffered the same fate! :)
[05:00] <spola> what does emacs have that vim doesnt have? (no flame: ive never tried emacs)
[05:00] <sbartleylinux> Seveas, not having much luck in finding information on equivs.  Is that a tool in itself or a switch for apt or dpkg?
[05:00] <thrush> Moorenkopf: ubuntu sever install with fluxbox wouldnt be bad.  Or maybe vector linux if youre comfortable enough with linux in general
[05:01] <lorenzod> spola: memory consumption ;-)
[05:01] <dooglus> spola: I don't know, I never tried vim more than for a couple of hours.
[05:01] <tom__> can anyone give me some advice please?
[05:01] <slyjab> anyone know why xmms locks up when i try to play media?
[05:01] <selinium> Seveas, also have do you have code highlighting in vim?
[05:01] <dooglus> vim does syntax highlighting, yes
[05:02] <Moorenkopf> normally I use gentoo with fluxbox
[05:02] <Seveas> selinium, yes, vim has great syntax highlighting
[05:02] <Moorenkopf> so, kde is not needed
[05:02] <cool_guy> hello ppl
[05:02] <Seveas> selinium, and I'll look at that problem you reported, thanks
[05:02] <spola> emacs has word completion?
[05:02] <davix_> i need a good dns
[05:03] <davix_> anyone?
[05:03] <cool_guy> hey ppl i had asked for a question over here in the afternoon regarding the installation of the wine into ubuntu
[05:03] <cool_guy> but theres a problem
[05:03] <cool_guy> its giving me a lot of errors
[05:03] <cool_guy> can ne 1 help?
[05:03] <sbartleylinux> Seveas, any pointer to information on equivs documentation?
[05:03] <gimmulf> !postgresql
[05:03] <ubotu> gimmulf: I don't know
[05:03] <selinium> Seveas, How do i get vim to do highlighting?
[05:03] <hyperz> cool_guy , i have the same prob :sss
[05:04] <Seveas> sbartleylinux, apt-get install equivs
[05:04] <Seveas> selinium, :syntax on
[05:04] <selinium> Seveas, lol , I have got sooo much to learn!
[05:04] <pitti> gimmulf: "!postgresql" ?
[05:04] <sbartleylinux> Seveas, Is that in Universe then?  Not finding in base.
[05:04] <lorenzod> selinium, vim comes with some great help, :help
[05:04] <Seveas> selinium, vimtutor :
[05:04] <Seveas> :)
[05:04] <Seveas> !info equivs
[05:04] <ubotu> equivs: (Circumvent Debian package dependencies), section universe/admin, is extra. Version: 2.0.6-0.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 132 kB
[05:04] <Seveas> yes it is in universe...
[05:05] <sbartleylinux> k. thx.
[05:05] <gimmulf> Whats the defaultpassword for the postgres user?
[05:05] <selinium> Seveas, i did the first 5 mins of vimtutor to do what i needed to do at the time.... I need to RTFM
[05:05] <pitti> gimmulf: there is none
[05:05] <gimmulf> pitti:  it asks for it
[05:06] <pitti> gimmulf: "sudo -u postgres <command>"
[05:06] <Seveas> selinium, the total vimtutor is 30mins
[05:06] <pitti> gimmulf: "it"?
[05:06] <gimmulf> ahha
[05:06] <brenner> possible stupid question: anyone familiar with autotools? what package provides them?
[05:06] <cool_guy> hey <hyperz> what problem do u have
[05:06] <CyJimmy264> Please answer, does ubuntu linux have any relation to ubuntu.org?
[05:07] <psycode> how can i remove my shell logs ? so that next time i open the gnome-terminal, pressing "up" won't show anything ?
[05:07] <selinium> Seveas, I will do it now! After a reboot to bring back my /home drive online. See you later! :)
[05:07] <cool_guy> can sum1 help me out plzzzz
[05:07] <Matrice64> psycode , there should be a history file in your home directory
[05:07] <thrush> psycode: most is stored in .bash_history in your home dir  I believe
[05:07] <cool_guy> i have a problem in ubuntu:)
[05:08] <psycode> Matrice64, thrush - thanks
[05:08] <Stormx2> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[05:08] <Stormx2>  <-- Fix?
[05:11] <CyJimmy264> sorry, i've been disconnected
[05:11] <CyJimmy264> and again, has ubuntu linux any relation to ubuntu.org?
[05:11] <CarlFK> CyJimmy264 - yes.
[05:11] <thrush> if I make a hardlink shares same inode# of file and the file is deleted does the hardlink preserve the disk space from being overwritten later?
[05:12] <Seveas> Stormx2, apt-get install build-essential
[05:12] <Seveas> CyJimmy264, no
[05:12] <CyJimmy264> CarlFK: is ubuntu linux a part of that movement?
[05:13] <CyJimmy264> hmm
[05:13] <Seveas> ubuntu.org is completely unrelated to ubuntu linux
[05:13] <gimmulf> pitti:  hmmm shouldnt there be some type of password for postgres?
[05:13] <selinium> CyJimmy264, no it isn't!
[05:13] <CyJimmy264> ok
[05:13] <selinium> CarlFK, have to looked at ubuntu.org?
[05:13] <pitti> gimmulf: why? no password is more secure than one :-)
[05:14] <pitti> gimmulf: and usually you should not do things as postgres, apart from adding new users
[05:14] <pitti> gimmulf: but if you want a password, feel free to set one with "sudo passwd postgres"
[05:14] <pitti> gimmulf: however, "sudo -u postgres createuser foo" (or whatever command) is really prefered
[05:14] <selinium> CyJimmy264, CarlFK:  ubuntu.org = World Forum of Civil Society Networks - UBUNTU.
[05:15] <gimmulf> pitti:  im installing gphotocoll, a software that handles pictures from my camera and it uses postgresql so when i start the software it asks for postgresqldatabase name / username / password ... i have created an database though
[05:16] <pitti> gimmulf: then you should create an user for you, and then create a db that is owned by you, not postgres
[05:16] <slyjab> does anyone know why my xmms freezes (without error messages)when i try to load media
[05:16] <pitti> gimmulf: see /usr/share/doc/postgresql-common/README.Debian
[05:16] <PatrikJohansson> thrush: yeah but what im really missing are some of the tools in photoshop...
[05:16] <gimmulf> oki thanks
[05:16] <pitti> gimmulf: this explains the steps to get you going
[05:17] <selinium> slyjab: open a term and type xmms. It may give you an error there
[05:18] <hjra> hi to all
[05:18] <selinium> slyjab: also type    ps -C xmms   in the term to see if there are any instances running in the background
[05:19] <qiHEWSfi> just to be on the safe side, make your password cryptic for others but easy for yourself and include some symbols as separators and numbers on clarifiers, and make the text sections begiin or end in capital letters
[05:19] <[Spooky] > PatrikJohansson: swede ? :)
[05:19] <cool_guy> whats the best way to make all softwares work on linux?
[05:20] <slyjab> selinium: this is what i get in term ..libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:20] <carslothe> hello
[05:20] <cool_guy> whats the best way to make all softwares work on linux?
[05:20] <brenner> cool_guy: don't get too specific now. :)
[05:20] <sperez> hello
[05:20] <sperez> somebody
[05:21] <sperez> install dovecot in ubuntu ?
[05:21] <cool_guy> sorry brenner
[05:21] <cool_guy> i need help man
[05:21] <selinium> slyjab, There is your problem! What are you running Breezy?
[05:21] <cool_guy> comon atleast u help me:)
[05:21] <infernall> how can i list text in console and only display the first column of 5?
[05:21] <brenner> cool_guy: what programs do you want to work?
[05:21] <infernall> woiuld sed do this?
[05:21] <brenner> cool_guy: you asked a very broad question, that's all. :)
[05:21] <cool_guy> i want to install wine
[05:21] <cool_guy> m sorry
[05:21] <selinium> !wine
[05:22] <cool_guy> ??
[05:22] <selinium> cool_guy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996
[05:22] <slyjab> selinium: hoary
[05:22] <cool_guy> no
[05:22] <cool_guy> tats not the point
[05:22] <cool_guy> i have wine rpm n i tried to install it using apt-get
[05:23] <cool_guy> i couldnt it game me lot of error messages
[05:23] <GigaClon> cool_guy, use alien
[05:23] <brenner> cool_guy: apt-get doesn't use rpms
[05:23] <selinium> cool_guy, that wont work! You could try to alien /path/to/rpm but i would do it from the cvs
[05:23] <carslothe> I have a question. Can totem and mozilla pugins be loaded thrugh the ubuntu update? I feell that for people not used to linux it would be better to have a program for installing plugins
[05:23] <soce_32> slyjab: aptitude search mikmod, and see if the libmikmod stuff is installed
[05:24] <cool_guy> but i tried it in alien also
[05:24] <cool_guy> alien -i wine
[05:24] <thrush> is wine not in repos?
[05:24] <cool_guy> but no go
[05:24] <cool_guy> it gave lot of error messages
[05:24] <cool_guy> i can send u a pic of it
[05:24] <cool_guy> lemme send it to u
[05:24] <cool_guy> :)
[05:25] <brenner> carslothe: afaik, no. installing optional packages shouldn't be the updater's responsibility anyway if you ask me
[05:25] <slyjab> soce its there and installed
[05:25] <carslothe> not evryone can use linux
[05:26] <brenner> thrush: yes, it seems to be
[05:26] <cool_guy> brenner i have sent u the pics
[05:26] <cool_guy> u can accept it theres nothing other than my ubuntu pics :)
[05:26] <Xappe> anyone have any suggestions about this problem I have with skype (not the dependency/broken package problem)? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81792
[05:26] <gimmulf> pitti:  when i try to create the user using:  sudo createuser -A -D gimmulf it says createuser: could not connect to database template1: FATAL:  user "root" does not exist
[05:26] <gimmulf> do you have any clue ?
[05:26] <soce_32> slyjab: ls -la /usr/lib/libmikmod*, and see if there is a libmikmod.so.2 and check for dead symlinks
[05:26] <brenner> cool_guy: i didn't get a request.....anyway, like thrush said, it's in the repo...just install it that way
[05:26] <brenner> cool_guy: or CVS like selinium said
[05:27] <brenner> i'm sure he/she will walk you through it
[05:27] <PatrikJohansson> [spooky] , jajemn :P
[05:27] <brenner> carslothe: i agree.... :)
[05:27] <cool_guy> brenner can u say it again
[05:27] <cool_guy> i was busy searching for the pics:)
[05:27] <[Spooky] > PatrikJohansson: hehe ok :)
[05:27] <cool_guy> i dnt know what a cvs is:)
[05:27] <brenner> cool_guy: er, scrol up then
[05:28] <witless> hello.  i'm taking a look at OOo2 Base.  is it possible to define a calculated field in a query?
[05:28] <cool_guy> i did but what is it?
[05:28] <brenner> cool_guy: basically. why are you installing from an rpm when it's in the repo
[05:28] <selinium> ubotu tell cool_guy about wine
[05:28] <cool_guy> whats the actual command that shopuld be given in alien??
[05:29] <selinium> cool_guy, alien /path/to/rpm
[05:29] <carslothe> I live in Nova Scotia and Finding someone to give a crash corse is difacult
[05:29] <Se7h> shouldnt python-pygame be at latest version already? o.0
[05:29] <selinium> cool_guy, :)
[05:29] <witless> if you live on the water i'll come up on vaca and help you out  :-)
[05:29] <cool_guy> thanx selinium
[05:29] <francois> hello everybody
[05:29] <cool_guy> is that the command?
[05:30] <CyJimmy264> gis revido!
[05:30] <neologic> hello
[05:30] <cool_guy> selinium is that the actual command
[05:31] <cool_guy> i could find it in the man pages
[05:31] <cool_guy> there was sumthing like -t, --to-deb sumthing like that
[05:31] <brenner> carslothe: i understand....but using linux still requires the user to learn imo
[05:31] <carslothe> u can add Armada m700 to the list of laptops that run ubuntu
[05:32] <ompaul> cool_guy, what package do you want to install?
[05:32] <Strog> sure, but try to take my wife's grandmother and teach her windows. It wasn't pretty
[05:32] <selinium> cool_guy, i dont know where your wine.rpm is located.... alien /usr/yourname/Desktop/wine.rpm ? How would I know? :)
[05:32] <brenner> Strog: :)
[05:32] <thrush> cool_guy: if youre not going to compile it I would just apt-get install wine or whatever
[05:32] <selinium> ompaul, He want to install wine... I've said not to use alien and the rpm but....
[05:33] <ompaul> cool_guy, you deserve no help if you want to break the system and then blame the system
[05:34] <carslothe> imo ?
[05:34] <selinium> thrush: good idea! cool_guy if you aren't going to compile it just sudo apt-get install wine
[05:34] <yep> hello
[05:34] <ompaul> cool_guy, it is in what is called a repository and that repos has the name universe, you add that and away you go - no problem
[05:34] <cool_guy> comon guys i am not here to annoy ne 1
[05:34] <cool_guy> i am new to this thats it
[05:34] <cool_guy> is there ne thing wrong in learning?
[05:35] <brenner> carslothe: nice. what brand is that?
[05:35] <cool_guy> i tried guys
[05:35] <ompaul> cool_guy, your learning to break your system
[05:35] <cool_guy> i sudo apt-get wine.rpm
[05:35] <cool_guy> but it said that sumthing is not found sumthing is missing
[05:35] <yep> hello
[05:35] <ompaul> cool_guy, only if you have installed the relevant repo
[05:35] <cool_guy> whats a repo?
[05:35] <ompaul> !tell cool_guy about reps
[05:35] <carslothe> Compaq armada m700 p3 600mhz
[05:35] <ompaul> !tell cool_guy about repos
[05:35] <MenZa`> !tell me about pie
[05:35] <yep> someone can help me i ve some pb with my sound cart
[05:35] <MenZa`> o_O
[05:35] <cool_guy> where do u get io??
[05:35] <selinium> cool_guy, sudo apt-get install wine
[05:36] <cool_guy> where do u get it??
[05:36] <ompaul> cool_guy, read that page the bot sent you
[05:36] <ompaul> cool_guy, then installing wine will be easy
[05:36] <amarock> ubuntu is so BUGGY! Im having tons of problems! SOS! helpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp!
[05:36] <carslothe> brenner A'm I saposed to type you'r name first?
[05:36] <cool_guy> ok guys i will read it
[05:36] <enyc> im having real hassle with my system since updates to breezy / kernel [was alright on breezy+breezy-kernel in the past.....] 
[05:37] <falke> hi there what is the command for installing openSSH?
[05:37] <enyc> i have to use a 386 [non smp]  kernel
[05:37] <GigaClon> amarock, whats your probelm
[05:37] <Seveas> falke, sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:37] <selinium> carslothe, It just makes it beep/highlight the message!
[05:37] <brenner> carslothe: it helps. :)
[05:37] <enyc> else i get crash entering gnome etc.
[05:37] <brenner> what selinium said
[05:37] <carslothe> sorry
[05:37] <tom__> how do i execute .run files?
[05:37] <selinium> carslothe, no problems! :)
[05:37] <enyc> im using a 440bx with dual p3 / 512kb cache each
[05:38] <brenner> carslothe: old news...you're already listed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsCompaq
[05:38] <brenner> :)
[05:38] <enyc> it USED to work on this hardware but somethings broken recently ;-((
[05:38] <carslothe> wow
[05:38] <selinium> cool_guy, private message?
[05:38] <joevandyk> I want to submit feedback about the Gnome ISO burning utility that's included in Breezy.  Who should I send it to?
[05:38] <enyc> seemingly software/ubuntu updates has broken it
[05:38] <amarock> often i land up in console mode for no apparent reason...then i reboot...then i get into kde....and this ONLY happens when it tells me that hda6 was not cleanly mounted...also i cant go to google or ubuntuforums at times....help!
[05:39] <cool_guy> guys what is kubuntu?
[05:39] <tom__> How do i run the quake 4 installer?
[05:39] <cantona> can I use dapper repos.?
[05:39] <selinium> cool_guy, it is ubuntu using the KDE gui instead of Gnome
[05:39] <thrice`> cool_guy, ubuntu, with KDE instead of gnome
[05:39] <GigaClon> cool_guy, ubuntu packaged with KDE instead of Gnome
[05:39] <thrush> cool_guy: kubuntu is basically just kde instead of gnome I personally dont like kde
[05:39] <thrice`> tom__, sh quake-4-XXX.run ?
[05:40] <carslothe> brenner I had winxp but it kiked the crak and whanted me to begg pirate-soft to use it
[05:40] <GigaClon> KDE = ItLooksLikeWindows TM
[05:40] <brenner> carslothe: heh
[05:40] <ompaul> cool_guy, have you done the repo thing
[05:40] <Belutz> kubuntu is... well, some people just said that already
[05:40] <tom__> thats it
[05:40] <thrice`> cantona, no, probably a bad idea
[05:41] <tom__> what is a .run file? and what does the sh command mean?
[05:41] <psb154> tom_: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/Quake4FrontPage?action=show&redirect=FrontPage
[05:41] <thrice`> tom__, well, a .run file is just an executiable basically...sh uses bash to run it
[05:41] <Whistler> !azureus
[05:41] <ubotu> methinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[05:41] <tom__> how can i find this stuff out? I can't find anything on google
[05:42] <cantona> thrice`: really? compare to debian sid
[05:42] <mxpxpod> does anyone else running devhelp on breezy get a segfault when it starts up?
[05:42] <carslothe> is anyone runing 5.10?
[05:42] <GigaClon> tom__, sh stands for shell,
[05:42] <thrice`> cantona, dapper will be extremely unstable at the moment
[05:42] <enyc> casr: me ;p
[05:42] <ompaul> carslothe, loads
[05:42] <ompaul> carslothe, I have several boxes doing it
[05:42] <selinium> carslothe, me!
[05:42] <mula`> hi all
[05:42] <amarock> no one to hep:(
[05:42] <Whistler> can anybody paste good sources.list for breezy?
[05:42] <tom__> if i bought linux for dummies would it tell me all this stuff?
[05:42] <selinium> hi mula`
[05:43] <carslothe> is it good?
[05:43] <cool_guy> i will do it:)
[05:43] <gimmulf> When gphotocoll tries to connect to my postgresql database it says it cant connect, im using debian and created the database by doing this: $sudo -u postgres sh  and then createuser -A -D gimmulf and then createdb -O gimmulf photos  ... when i start gphotocoll (the software which need to use an postgresqldb) it asks me to fill in localhost/portnumber(5432)/dbname(photos)/username(gimmulf)/password(password for my user gimmulf) but it s
[05:43] <ompaul> carslothe, what are you running?
[05:43] <Whistler> can anybody paste good sources.list for breezy?
[05:43] <selinium> Seveas, can we get a breezy sources list on ubuntulinux.nl ?
[05:43] <Whistler> !sources
[05:43] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[05:44] <Belutz> when i'm trying to start postgresql, it says "TCP/IP connections must be enabled for SSL" how do i enable that?
[05:44] <mula`> after upgrading to 5.10, i got an error message when the gnome login window appears telling me that something in my config is wrong and defaults are used. where can i try to look up the error?
[05:44] <ompaul> mula`, the best way to do that is via google or malone.launchpad.net
[05:45] <selinium> cool_guy, if you type in the person nick before answering it will highlight/beep the person you are talking to. If you type in the first few letters of the nick and press tab it will auto-complete the nick.
[05:45] <mula`> where is gdm logging its error messages?
[05:45] <carslothe> hedge hog and the only prob I had other that no skills at linux wus one day all apps opened at once
[05:45] <mula`> perhaps i can find it by myself :)
[05:45] <brenner> tom__: yes, books on linux are a start....maybe look at tldp.org as well as linux.com's tutes
[05:46] <Whistler> can anybody paste good sources.list for breezy?
[05:46] <Paralla1> .
[05:46] <ompaul> mula`, that question :  /var/log/gdm
[05:46] <Se7h> question: why does my external hd turns off by itself from time to time?
[05:46] <thrice`> !repos
[05:46] <ubotu> methinks sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[05:46] <selinium> mula`, I had a similar problem myself.
[05:46] <Paralla1> .
[05:46] <carslothe> I had worse happen in windope
[05:46] <mula`> thx guys
[05:46] <ompaul> Whistler, there is no such thing as good/bad sources have you broken yours?
[05:46] <Whistler> i think so
[05:46] <Whistler> can you paste yours ompaul?
[05:47] <thrice`> Whistler, I just showed you the link
[05:47] <thrice`> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[05:47] <GigaClon> Whistler, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[05:47] <ompaul> Whistler, it will only be like the ones on paste
[05:47] <mula`> Whistler: just change the word hoary with breezy
[05:47] <ompaul> carslothe, if it works don't break it
[05:48] <mula`> maybe this one is causing the error message? Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
[05:48] <ompaul> carslothe, the difference is not that substantial
[05:48] <carslothe> I was the kid that tore a part every thin
[05:50] <carslothe> ompaul the sad thing is I was useing computers since the radio shack tr-80
[05:50] <Se7h> does anyone as a similar 'problem' to this?
[05:50] <mula`> Se7h: are you using a notebook?
[05:51] <Nekomages> anyone know where that link went to add mirrors to ubuntu for more packages?
[05:51] <ompaul> carslothe, so get a book and sit down with it, go through it three times, or read all docs.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com they may assist in understanding this Linux stuff
[05:51] <mula`> ar, external. my fault
[05:51] <Se7h> mula` not at all
[05:51] <carslothe> cool
[05:51] <carslothe> got to run
[05:51] <Se7h> so, no power savings, if thats  on ur mind
[05:52] <Se7h> not that it is so bad
[05:52] <Nekomages> guess not >_>
[05:52] <mula`> maybe hdparm sends it asleep?
[05:52] <Revellion> man hdparm says it does :)
[05:52] <Se7h> but its kinda annoying working with it and suddenly it 'standsby'
[05:53] <Se7h> maybe, and why?
[05:53] <tom__> has anyone installed quake 4 on linux?
[05:53] <Whistler> any good file manager for ubuntu?
[05:53] <selinium> Se7h, You can use hdparm to solve, type man hdparm and read...  :)
[05:53] <Whistler> smt like total cmd
[05:53] <mula`> dunno, tell hdparm not to do so :)
[05:53] <Se7h> lolol
[05:53] <Se7h> ok, ill do that :>
[05:53] <Se7h> ty anyway
[05:53] <ompaul> whats the regex for carriage return
[05:54] <mula`> i guess your hdd is configured to use accustic level
[05:54] <neologic> anyone here play planeshift?
[05:54] <thrush> Whistler: midnight commander isnt bad but its in a terminal..
[05:55] <selinium> Se7h, You can also google hdparm and you can find some tuts.... :)
[05:55] <mula`> Whistler: nautilus
[05:55] <Whistler> mula` nautilus is like explorer
[05:55] <thrush> Whistler: nautilus is pretty nice and already installed supports cd burning drag and drop and everything
[05:56] <Whistler> i really do not like nautilus
[05:56] <mula`> then thou shall use mc
[05:56] <thrush> apt-get install mc and see if u like it
[05:57] <Whistler> thrush how midnight cmd package is called?
[05:57] <mula`> can anybody teach me how to debug a gdm non-critical message --.--
[05:57] <just_in> recently did an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade on 5.04 and I lost the tabs for open programs on my bottom panel? How do I get them back?
[05:57] <thrush> Whistler: just mc
[05:57] <mula`> Whistler: mc
[05:57] <cionimba> ltsp-build-client error: Failed getting release file http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release
[05:57] <cionimba> . Solution?
[05:57] <spy> I can't play any mp3's on a newly installed ubuntu ?
[05:57] <amaroc> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. what to do?
[05:57] <brenner> thrush: yeah, nautilus *is* nice...i'd like drag selection in list view though
[05:58] <thrush> brenner: i just like the fancy thumbnails for all my tv shows ;)
[05:58] <brenner> heh
[05:58] <mula`> amaroc: install Qt devel
[05:58] <meuserj|work> Whistler, try rox-filer or xffm4
[05:59] <Whistler> meuserj|work thx
[05:59] <Whistler> thrush thx mc suits me just fine thx again
[05:59] <Morrowyn> morning
[05:59] <spy> I can't play any mp3's on a newly installed ubuntu ?
[05:59] <thrush> Whistler: np
[05:59] <ompaul> !tell spy about restricted
[05:59] <thrush> spy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com you have to install a few things
[05:59] <mula`> anybody here got an error message at logon from gdm after upgrading to 5.10 ?
[05:59] <ranto> I am having strange segfaults gdm, kdm and xdm  in breezy (amd64) when making a remote query from a specific host, but not from all... Anyone had a similar problem?
[06:00] <Se7h> mula` nop
[06:00] <spy> Like?
[06:00] <Morrowyn> does anyone here have any experience with setting up linux on a notebook that has an ati card in it?
[06:00] <joetheodd> spy: I use xmms. sudo apt-get install xmms
[06:00] <joetheodd> I'm having trouble getting apache to display PHP files properly.
[06:00] <spy> How do i get bmp
[06:00] <mula`> ranto: segmentation faults are nasty ...could be a messed driver or stuff
[06:00] <spy> beep media player?
[06:01] <just_in> what program controlls the tabs on the bottom panel in gnome - the tabs for all the open programs?
[06:01] <Morrowyn> joetheodd is the php module loaded? maybe add index.php to the prior to the part that says index.html
[06:01] <ompaul> spy enable the repo universe
[06:01] <ompaul> !tell spy about repos
[06:01] <ranto> mula`: the strange thing is that the display is remote, so it has barely somerhing to do with display drivers.. I was thinking in some amd64 port problem
[06:01] <Morrowyn> spy , run synaptic and do a search on : beep media player
[06:02] <joetheodd> Marrowyn, I don't have a index.html.
[06:02] <Morrowyn> its somewhere in the httpd.conf
[06:02] <avalost> are there any utilities to remote connect & admin a windows machine? I am trying to help a friend get rid of viruses/spyware and stuff
[06:03] <Morrowyn> its the files that apache is looking for startup execution, say: your dir contains no index.html/php then apache shows the directory listing instead
[06:03] <spy> ok
[06:03] <Morrowyn> but if index.html/php exist, it runs that
[06:03] <spy> got it
[06:03] <brenner> Morrowyn: me, but i'm using the vesa driver, so i can't help i'm guessing
[06:03] <Morrowyn> avalost www.realvnc.com  install the server on your friends pc and run the viewer on yours
[06:04] <avalost> Morrowyn: thanks
[06:04] <Morrowyn> make sure you open up the proper ports on your friends router if he is behind a nat
[06:04] <mula`> avalost: if he uses xp, use remote desktop
[06:04] <joetheodd> Morrowyn, looks like I have apache installed instead of apache2, but the php module is for apache2.
[06:04] <Morrowyn> ?
[06:04] <Morrowyn> just install apache2 or compile php for apache 1.3.xx
[06:04] <selinium> avalost, there are better things than vnc in linux
[06:05] <Whistler> can i instal program from source and later remove it using apt-get?
[06:05] <Morrowyn> selinium its for connecting to a windows box
[06:05] <Morrowyn> i dont recall windows having good remote connection stuff
[06:05] <Morrowyn> correct me if im wrong
[06:05] <selinium> avalost, sorry, missed the beginng... Morrowyn is right! for connecting to a windows box.
[06:05] <Morrowyn> otherwise : ssh :)
[06:06] <selinium> Morrowyn, have you looked at freenx
[06:06] <Morrowyn> nope, lemme see
[06:06] <abdllah> hi all :)
[06:06] <selinium> Morrowyn, you are missong out!
[06:06] <dragonkh> hi
[06:06] <Morrowyn> looks cool
[06:06] <dragonkh> when I try to install kde-devel it says a diiferent version of the lib will be installed to the one that it depends on
[06:07] <dragonkh> any idea how to solve this?
[06:07] <dragonkh> do I need to re-install ?
[06:07] <sunshine82> ive tar -xzvf a tar.gz file but it turn out the file is the wrong file i needed how do i delete it from my system i tried apt-get remove but that didnt work#
[06:07] <ompaul> sunshine82,  make clean
[06:07] <ompaul> sunshine82,  make remove
[06:07] <ompaul> sunshine82,  make uninstall <<< that one sorry
[06:08] <mula`> or simply delete it by hand
[06:08] <Morrowyn> i'd go for rm -rf /path/to/dir/
[06:08] <peritus> is it possible to use 8859-1 instead of UTF-8?
[06:08] <mula`> y not?
[06:08] <mula`> anybody got vmware player running on breezy?
[06:09] <sunshine82> ompaul it say there is no rule fro uninstall
[06:09] <abdllah> any idea how to create accounts in mysql ? or HOW-TO ?
[06:09] <mula`> my dear, it's in the apt cache :)
[06:09] <echylo> hi, anyone has installed ubuntu on laptop : Acer 1692 and had troubles with it?
[06:09] <selinium> Morrowyn, It is it is quick as well, full screen graphics. much better than vnc
[06:10] <mula`> why dont u use remote desktop??
[06:10] <ompaul> sunshine82, by hand then you may not get everything - but  it will be close and packages can be corrected if anything funny happened
[06:10] <mula`> you don't need extra stuff for this
[06:10] <peritus> is it possible to use 8859-1 instead of UTF-8?
[06:10] <ompaul> sunshine82, what package did you want install?
[06:11] <ompaul> peritus, yes - if you want to
[06:11] <sunshine82> ompaul it say when i try and delte it from the home directory that i dont have permission qc-usb-messenger-0.8
[06:11] <mjr> peritus, as ompaul said, yes, but why and where?
[06:11] <Morrowyn> man compiling takes ages
[06:11] <ompaul> sudo make uninstall << I would have thought that was obvious but (snigger) obviously not (ohh those puns kill me)
[06:12] <ompaul> sunshine82, ^^ 4 u
[06:12] <mula`> sunshine82: how come you don't have permission on your home directory?
[06:12] <mula`> lol
[06:12] <peritus> ompaul: yeah, i want to. all my files using swedish characters are in 8859-1 and everyone I know on IRC is using 8859-1 too. UTF-8 is nicer, but I have use 8859-1.
[06:12] <peritus> where do i change it?
[06:13] <Whistler> ./autogen.sh: line 33: autopoint: command not found
[06:13] <Whistler>  what can i do?
[06:13] <Zeksers> hi, i'm doing some things to my friends pc via ssh but i run in to problems
[06:13] <Zeksers> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kwin-baghira:
[06:13] <Zeksers>  kwin-baghira depends on libidn11 (>= 0.5.18); however:
[06:13] <Zeksers>   Version of libidn11 on system is 0.5.13-1.0.
[06:13] <Zeksers>  kwin-baghira depends on libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.5); however:
[06:13] <Zeksers>   Version of libqt3-mt on system is 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5.
[06:13] <sunshine82> ompaul it has alock on it i have permission that just what it say
[06:13] <Zeksers> how can i update them?
[06:13] <mula`> Whistler: check what line 33 wants to do
[06:13] <Morrowyn> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[06:13] <paisone> kann mir einer erzhlen warum mein mplayer lauter ist als der gmplayer??
[06:13] <hender> hey guys
[06:13] <mula`> and install autopoint?
[06:13] <hender> my screensaver doesn't work anymore
[06:13] <ompaul> Morrowyn, if you have a fast machine and a long time try compiling OOo and leave the house for a couple of days - also run time on the command :-)
[06:14] <ompaul> !de
[06:14] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[06:14] <Morrowyn> lol i compiled kde for fun
[06:14] <Whistler> mula` $AUTOPOINT --force || exit 1
[06:14] <Whistler> this is line 33
[06:14] <ompaul> Zeksers, never ever paste in here use paste
[06:14] <Zeksers> ok
[06:14] <ompaul> !tell Zeksers about paste
[06:14] <hender> whenever the screensaver is meant to start, the screen just goes black in a very smooth and beautiful manner
[06:14] <Morrowyn> decided to quit after 2 days although it was on a p3 450mhz with 64mb ram and tons of swap
[06:14] <mula`> it says you dont have thecommand autopoint installed or in your $PATH
[06:14] <avalost> ok, anyone have a suggestion as to which client to use to connect to a realvnc server running on windows?
[06:15] <hender> any ideas why my screensaver might not be working?
[06:15] <avalost> tightvnc, xvnc or other?
[06:15] <MonsieurBon> someone here to help me with my wireless card?
[06:15] <Whistler> mula` any ideas of how can i install it
[06:15] <Whistler> ?
[06:15] <peritus> hey, did you know how i could change UTF-8 to 8859-1?
[06:15] <Zeksers> http://rafb.net/paste/results/A3Q8a379.html
[06:15] <mula`> since i dont know that siftwre this is, no
[06:15] <Morrowyn> install realvnc on both the windows as well as the linux box, realvnc comes with a server and client
[06:15] <mula`> software
[06:15] <Zeksers> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade didn't work
[06:15] <paisone> wo findet man denn hier einen deutschsprachigen channel?
[06:16] <mirak> hi
[06:16] <hender> peritus, in firefox, you press view -> character encoding, and then select the encoding of your choice
[06:16] <mula`> man du lamer #ubuntu-de
[06:16] <mirak> does ubuntu installer suggests PPPoE as network config during the install ?
[06:16] <MonsieurBon> paisone, #ubuntu-de
[06:16] <avalost> I don't see a realvnc client for linux in synaptic
[06:16] <Morrowyn> ok, i dont know if its in the ubuntu rep, i just grabbed the tarballs
[06:17] <avalost> and on the website just the windows server & client
[06:17] <peritus> hender: yeah, but i want to change it everywhere
[06:17] <ompaul> Zeksers, thats a kde thing you might get better help in #kubuntu
[06:17] <hender> anyone have any idea how I can get my screensaver working again? It works fine in Xfce (haven't tried KDE). In Gnome is just goes smoothly and beautifully black
[06:17] <mirak> does ubuntu installer suggests PPPoE as network config during the install ?
[06:17] <Whistler> mirak i think so
[06:17] <avalost> ok, i'll just install from source
[06:17] <ompaul> hender,  have a look in system preferences screensaver
[06:17] <hender> nevermind, I got it working by changing away from GL to Color in advanced
[06:17] <hender> thanks, ompaul :)
[06:17] <mirak> Whistler: that's for a friend, he sucks
[06:18] <Morrowyn> anyhere runs ubuntu with a ati video card?
[06:18] <Morrowyn> s/anyhere/does anyone in here
[06:18] <Morrowyn> dmn typos
[06:18] <dragonkh> how do I force install something ?
[06:18] <Morrowyn> -f ?
[06:18] <dragonkh> I want to dpkg force it
[06:18] <pabloesc> Morrowyn, Me for instance
[06:18] <ompaul> !tell Morrowyn about ati
[06:19] <MonsieurBon> any wireless expert in here?
[06:19] <ompaul> Morrowyn, that was 6 lines and the first one was understandable;
[06:19] <ompaul> Morrowyn, 4 but what a waste as this points out :-)
[06:20] <MonsieurBon> Morrowyn, it was 3, the last one was an answer! ;)
[06:20] <just_in> how do I upgrade from hoary to breezy? Is there anything to watch out for?
[06:20] <Morrowyn> :)
[06:20] <ompaul> MonsieurBon, by the time we were finished it was getting on for 10
[06:20] <ompaul> :-)
[06:21] <brenner> just_in: see topic
[06:21] <mula`> !dist-upgrade
[06:21] <ubotu> I don't know, mula`
[06:21] <mula`> arr
[06:21] <MonsieurBon> ompaul, right you are! what a waste. So you'd bette help me with my wlan card! ;)
[06:21] <Revellion> ...
[06:21] <Morrowyn> im planning on buying a notebook, but all notebooks with an amd64 cpu seem to come with an ati card, so im wondering if ati performs and install nicely on linux
[06:21] <Zeksers> tehy aren't helping me
[06:22] <Zeksers> i just need to know how to upgrade those dependencies in theory
[06:22] <hender> Morrowyn: no
[06:22] <Zeksers> http://rafb.net/paste/results/MhnPiM97.html
[06:22] <signius> MonsierBon
[06:22] <Morrowyn> hender, so its not worth buying an ati and running linux?
[06:22] <just_in> brenner: thanks
[06:22] <signius> MonsierBon what wirless card you goit and whats the problem ?
[06:22] <ompaul> MonsieurBon, you emabarrassed me I know nothing of those cards - seems to be a pain unless you have a natively supported card have a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:23] <hender> Morrowyn: Ati has awful linux drivers, I haven't tried it myself, but this is what I've heard. I've also heard that recently it's been getting better :P
[06:23] <MonsieurBon> ompaul, it does not work with ndiswrapper
[06:23] <MonsieurBon> signius, Realtek with RTL8180L chip
[06:23] <signius> some people say ati linux are better than nvidia and others swear nvidia drivers for linus are better
[06:24] <signius> from what i recall realtek does need ndiswrappers
[06:24] <ompaul> signius, I doubt if Linus runs nvidia
[06:24] <mula`> :P
[06:24] <hender> I've never heard anything about ati being better than nvidia
[06:24] <psb154> is there a way of selecting all Development packages from Synaptic in ubuntu?
[06:24] <Morrowyn> well im running nvidia cards for quite a long time now, and installing them on linux isnt that hard and they perform nicely
[06:24] <Zeksers> ompaul, what then?
[06:24] <signius> why ?
[06:25] <ompaul> Zeksers, nothing more - just suggested that you could ask there
[06:25] <amaroc> kubuntu breezy IS buggy...im having the same probs http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=441850
[06:25] <MonsieurBon> signius, it does not work at all. It used to work some 6 months ago after some expert did something for half an hour. But as that was my first day with Linux I don't have a clue, what he did. And no, it does not work with ndiswrapper. at least not until now...
[06:25] <signius> MonsierBon http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?Keyword=8180
[06:25] <selinium> I have never had a problem with nvidia cards
[06:25] <ompaul> signius, they want to touch his kernel
[06:25] <Morrowyn> but looking at the forum, seems quite a pain to install the ati drivers, but then again, if you survive that, does it run nicely :)
[06:25] <amaroc> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=441850
[06:26] <hender> Morrowyn, sorry, but I have no clue =/
[06:26] <Morrowyn> k
[06:26] <signius> i always use nidia its a preference i have come to over the years even before using linux
[06:26] <MonsieurBon> signius, could you write my name with "u" so it gets highlighted? thx... The drivers from realtek are for fedora, right?
[06:26] <signius> ati drivers have always been buggy as hell IMHO
[06:26] <mula`> pls assist me dudes, how can i debug a gnome error message at login time..i am getting stick
[06:26] <signius> MonsiuerBon http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?Keyword=8180
[06:27] <signius> oops
[06:27] <Xenguy> Hi - I see there is talk of a bad Firefox memory leak in the version released with Breezy - is this true, and if yes, does anyone know if there is a fix in the works?
[06:27] <MonsieurBon> signius, the u after the e! ;)
[06:27] <signius> MonsieurBon even
[06:27] <Morrowyn> maybe i'll just wait a while till amd/nvidia notebook arrive
[06:27] <dragonkh> can I do an internet install of ubuntu without any media?
[06:28] <selinium> mula`, It is a bug yes, but it only effects the login page. If you cant find any help today try again later. No need to worry
[06:28] <Morrowyn> and spend my money on a ibook
[06:28] <MonsieurBon> signius, those drivers are for fedora, can I use them in ubuntu???
[06:28] <dragonkh> like from my current distro?
[06:28] <hender> Xenguy, firefox has always been memory-hungry on linux, but if you get a problem, you can install konqueror instead, or maybe even epiphany
[06:28] <hender> Xenguy, I've not experienced any problems
[06:29] <mjr> dragonkh, you can do a local area network install, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOnCluster
[06:29] <Xenguy> hender: no thanks, I don't want another browser.
[06:29] <mula`> disable ipv6 lookups in firefox and get happy
[06:29] <mula`> of course not if you live in asia
[06:30] <hender> Xenguy, as I said, I haven't experienced any problems. Did this come from a reliable source?
[06:31] <Xenguy> hender: http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2005102500726OSHLSW
[06:31] <francois> is someone knows how to write reverse adresses ipv4 in awk ? (read a file and generate reverse adresses)
[06:31] <signius> checking it out now
[06:31] <Xenguy> hender: part of the reason I'm asking is to verify -- I don't know how reliable the source is, or whether this is affecting more than the author :-)
[06:31] <MonsieurBon> signius, can I compile them on my machine and they work with ubuntu?
[06:32] <hender> Xenguy: It's true that Firefox is very memory-hungry but judging from your name you're not new to linux, and might already know that it generally uses ~100MB memory
[06:33] <taiho> OGL working, 920+FPS, but cannot change resolution.
[06:33] <Zukero> hender : it is supposed to be a "leightweight" web browser
[06:33] <Xenguy> hender: hehe - my name precedes Xen :-)  Anyway, I think there is a difference between 'memory-hungry' and 'memory-leak' also
[06:33] <hender> Xenguy: A lightweight cross-platform browser using XUL ;)
[06:33] <St^Anger^19m> 100mb is lightweight????
[06:33] <Xenguy> hender: yeah, really
[06:33] <dmlinux> hey guys, how do install a RPM file>? im kinda clueless when it comes to them
[06:34] <inva|id> dmlinux: man alien
[06:34] <Zukero> use alien
[06:34] <Xenguy> dmlinux: you shouldn't if you don't have to - what software?
[06:34] <hender> Xenguy: It's lightweight on windows, but mostly just in terms of interface ... you might want to try installing Firefox 1.5 like the article suggests
[06:34] <Zukero> alien file.rpm file.deb
[06:34] <Zukero> then dpkg -i file.deb
[06:34] <dmlinux> Xenguy Limewire. they have a .sh i can run , but it doesnt work for me for some reason
[06:34] <Zukero> but you may have to solve the dependencies manually
[06:34] <DawnF> hi
[06:34] <Xenguy> hender: I might try that - I just wanted the developers to know, if they don't know already
[06:35] <dmlinux> Invalid no entry for alien
[06:35] <St^Anger^19m> lightweight on windows? and not on linux?
[06:35] <amaroc> one interesting question: is there any other debian-based distro like ubuntu???
[06:35] <DawnF> i have a question on transfering a HD with ubuntu to a new computer.
[06:35] <DawnF> anyone in the know in that area?
[06:35] <hender> Xenguy: I'll see if I can report it on launchpad or bugzilla :) thanks
[06:35] <Zukero> St^Anger^19m not even lightweight on windows
[06:35] <inva|id> dmlinux:  Zukero's intructions will work
[06:35] <Xenguy> hender: thank you very much
[06:36] <dmlinux> !tell dmlinux about alien
[06:36] <Zukero> amaroc : ton's of them
[06:36] <dmlinux> zukero where is the dependency
[06:36] <Xenguy> dmlinux: an alternative is 'gtk-gnutella' - that's about all I can offer to help
[06:36] <Zukero> i don't know
[06:36] <St^Anger^19m> Zukero: so why does every1 say its a lightweight one?
[06:36] <hender> Zukero: On Windows it uses max 50MB of memory, except when it leaks, commonly only about 30MB, on linux it uses about 100MB
[06:36] <signius> MonsieurBon http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers.802.11b.html#RealtekGPL
[06:36] <Zukero> but as rpm do not manages dependencies, you will havve to find it out yourself
[06:36] <dmlinux> Xenguy thats what im using, but its slow and doesnt work half the time
[06:36] <hender> 150MB right now, actually
[06:37] <Zukero> hender : on a winbox right now : firefox : 83 Mb
[06:37] <signius> MonsieurBon these are GPL drivers with source by the looks of it
[06:37] <amaroc> a debian-based distro which is free, packs newset stuff??
[06:37] <amaroc> and is easily installable?
[06:37] <Xenguy> dmlinux: good luck (googling on limewire ubuntu might be worth it)
[06:37] <hender> Zukero: Woah! How'd you do that? :D
[06:37] <Zukero>  [Current Uptime]   2days 14hrs 48mins 54secs  [Record Uptime]   2wks 1day 3hrs 55mins 21secs
[06:38] <MonsieurBon> signius, yep, they are. But they are not for my chip....
[06:38] <francois> #msg francois
[06:38] <Zukero> firefox never closed
[06:38] <Zukero> 20 tabs
[06:38] <dmlinux> Xenguy i had it running with the SH file they give us, but it no longer works for soem reason
[06:38] <amaroc>  i dont think there is any distro like ubuntu:(
[06:38] <taiho> Cannot change resolution, NVIDIA card works good though.
[06:38] <VooDoo> the ubuntu dvd is both installable and a live cd :)
[06:38] <hender> ah, that explains it then
[06:39] <signius> MonsieurBon you said an rtl8180L
[06:39] <Communist_FireFo> where is the ubuntu off topic channel
[06:39] <taiho> Question: How to change resolution when no other choice then 640x480 is available in Resolutions Manager?
[06:39] <dmlinux> what is the apt-get or download for ALIEN
[06:39] <tony_> hi all! i am trying out gparted .. can i create a new partition while the hd is mounted?
[06:40] <mula`> sure
[06:40] <VooDoo> dmlinux: sudo apt-get install alien
[06:40] <tony_> taiho: i think i can answer that?
[06:40] <tony_> taiho: w8
[06:40] <MonsieurBon> signius, yeah, but they say it's for philips and maxim. What's that supposed to mean then?
[06:40] <Fanskapet> yeah what's alien? :)
[06:40] <taiho> tony_, I'll wait :)
[06:40] <dmlinux> VooDoo o lol , yeah im dumb
[06:41] <Fanskapet> besides a creature from another planet? :)
[06:41] <VooDoo> :)
[06:41] <signius> MonsieurBon No it says that is other features that chipset supports
[06:42] <VooDoo> alien: lets you convert rpm to deb etc etc
[06:42] <mula`> how can i disable the ntp synchronisation at boot time?
[06:43] <MonsieurBon> signius, ah right! well, I found my laptop in that list!
[06:43] <Morrowyn> cya;ll off food
[06:44] <VooDoo> anyone know how to get the extra debian menu in breezy?  installing menu didn't work!
[06:44] <signius> MonsieurBon If you read the info on the sourceforge link it explains in much more detail
[06:44] <francois> lu mad-d
[06:44] <MonsieurBon> signius, just read it! how do I download that with the cvs?
[06:45] <taiho> tony_, How is it going finding the info?
[06:45] <mula`> got it
[06:45] <mula`> sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[06:45] <mad-d> euh franois, je t'ai propos une "conversation en priv"... enfin en thorie
[06:46] <francois> marche po
[06:46] <francois> attend
[06:46] <signius> MonsieurBon You need to install CVS then use that to get the files
[06:47] <signius> MonsieurBon Or download the drivers of sourceforge
[06:47] <tony_> taiho: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=534
[06:47] <francois> mad-d, ca fonctionne pas apparement
[06:47] <taiho> thank you tony_
[06:47] <tony_> taiho: i hope it helps
[06:47] <francois> retente
[06:47] <mad-d> t'as pas un onglet "mad-d" apparu  cot de l'onglet ubuntu en bas de la conv ??
[06:47] <francois> non
[06:47] <francois> ils bloquent les msg prives
[06:48] <mad-d> rha
[06:48] <tony_> question: anyone able to tell me how to partition free space on ext3 hd where ubuntu is mounted? I am trying gparted but that wont allow me to.. it wants me to unmount
[06:48] <mula`> english pls
[06:49] <thrush> damn roomates
[06:49] <absenth> tony_: you might be able to use a live cd distro to modify the partition.
[06:49] <jmazaredo> does the ubuntu 5.10(server) has a default internet sharing?
[06:49] <absenth> tony_: I don't claim to know what that might do to the existing install though.
[06:50] <jmazaredo> ??
[06:50] <tony_> absenth: thanx i thought of that but i was just looking to see if i could do it this way :) is gparted included in the live? would u use a command line program?
[06:51] <synd> I got a 802.11g PCI card and a built in NIC. Is there a way that I can "share" the internet connection with a system that's connected to the NIC?
[06:52] <dmlinux> Ok so instal ALIEN, then i turn the rpm into a deb, and dpkg -i and it say setting up limewire etc etc etc. then when i type limewire, it says runLime.sh could not be found
[06:52] <absenth> tony_: honestly, I've never tried resizing a partition with that wasn't NTFS using anything other then Ghost....
[06:52] <tony_> absenth: is that included in the live-cd?
[06:53] <absenth> tony_: ghost is a norton product.
[06:53] <sambagirl> how do you change screen sizes?
[06:53] <dmlinux> xenguy you get athat?
[06:53] <tony_> absenth: thx anyway!
[06:54] <zoexii> hello, does anyone know how to make amaroK play aac (iTunes) files?
[06:54] <sambagirl> how do you change screen sizes?
[06:54] <dmlinux> sambagirl what do you mean screen sizes
[06:55] <sambagirl> 768x1024
[06:55] <sambagirl> 600x400
[06:55] <sambagirl> like that
[06:55] <dmlinux> sambagirl system / prefrences /screen resolution
[06:55] <zoexii> sambagirl, system>prefs>screen resolution
[06:55] <St^Anger^19m> resolutions :S
[06:55] <sambagirl> i ffind it
[06:55] <sambagirl> :)
[06:55] <sambagirl> ok grazie
[06:55] <taiho> Question: How do I activate higher resolutions? My NVIDIA is setup the same as last install, yet something is not working.
[06:55] <St^Anger^19m> lol @ sambagirl's nick
[06:55] <taiho> tony_, sorry, didn't help me.
[06:56] <dmlinux> Xenguy Ok so instal ALIEN, then i turn the rpm into a deb, and dpkg -i and it say setting up limewire etc etc etc. then when i type limewire, it says runLime.sh could not be found
[06:56] <dmlinux> crap xenguy isnt on :P
[06:56] <synd> I got a 802.11g PCI card and a built in NIC. Is there a way that I can "share" the internet connection with a system that's connected to the NIC?
[06:56] <digitize> !repositories
[06:56] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[06:57] <dmlinux> synd no
[06:57] <dmlinux> synd you can get a cheapy wireless router and do it that way,
[06:58] <absenth> dmlinux: if you set up routed, or the like why wouldn't an ad-hoc -> cabled nic work as a gateway?
[06:58] <synd> dmlinux: I was told you can.
[06:58] <djib> anyone has a Wacom Volito 2 ?
[06:58] <synd> I remember someone writing up a HOWTO on this issue, but I can't remember the URL and I can't find it in my history.
[06:58] <djib> I can't get mine working
[06:59] <dmlinux> absenth wireless cards arent for port forwarding. i have never heard of this being done. I have tried to do it on many occasions. the wireless cards support 1 type of connectioin, not the two , adhoc and infastructure
[06:59] <absenth> synd: this isn't on ubuntu, this is using openbsd, and has some fairly specific restrictions on "how" he configured it to work, but you might be able to adjust a thing or two.  http://www.cisns.net/lab/lab01.shtml
[06:59] <dmlinux> absenth to connect to a router they are on infastructure
[06:59] <synd> dmlinux: My wireless Mac does it.
[06:59] <PatrikJohansson> Has anyone here gotte photoshop cs2 to work in ubuntu??
[06:59] <dmlinux> synd then it was mad to do so
[06:59] <synd> With it's built in NIC and wireless card.
[06:59] <dmlinux> synd most cards dont support it
[07:00] <dmlinux> synd made*
[07:00] <peritus> my wireless network is disconnecting often, but it keeps alive when im ping my router all the time
[07:00] <cens0red> hi. What's the best app for watching ram video files?
[07:00] <dmlinux> peritus what mode is it in
[07:01] <peritus> dmlinux: mode?
[07:01] <PatrikJohansson> peritus; how do you make it connect again??
[07:01] <synd> cens0red: VLC maybe?
[07:01] <dmlinux> peritus a/b/g
[07:01] <cens0red> synd vlc ?
[07:01] <peritus> PatrikJohansson: well it does not really disconnect, i just loose the ssh-connection to my server
[07:01] <PatrikJohansson> peritus; aha ok then not the same problem i have :P
[07:01] <synd> cens0red: sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:01] <peritus> dmlinux: how can i find out?
[07:02] <synd> cens0red: Or Google it.
[07:02] <Ninjew> woot, got a deb of wine .9 built and installed -- I can't wait to test it out
[07:02] <cens0red> synd is it good for streaming?
[07:02] <thrush> cens0red: nice thing about vlc is it includes its own codecs.  You dont have to worry about downloading extra stuff
[07:02] <wickers> ok, so anyone else having shotty centrino (ipw2100) driver issues?
[07:02] <dmlinux> peritus umm you should know what your wireless card supports, 802.11a or b or g
[07:02] <synd> cens0red: Sure.
[07:02] <cens0red> synd and thrush cheers.
[07:02] <synd> cens0red: mplayer or totem-xine is good as well
[07:02] <dmlinux> wickers 2100 is bad, very bad
[07:02] <wickers> dmlinux, yeah, so I've experienced.
[07:02] <DonChullio> Hi here is a very good Browser Game !!!! http://www.street-conflicts.de.ki !!!!! It's about Gangster and ...... !!!!!!
[07:02] <cens0red> synd got totem-xine. won't run this: http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200510/r62273_171748.ram
[07:02] <peritus> dmlinux: g
[07:03] <Slut> Hi i can't play any mp3's somebody help please?
[07:03] <dmlinux> peritus what is your router?
[07:03] <dmlinux> peritus so your wireless card is g only?
[07:03] <Colloid> if i set up an ubuntu server (mysql/apache/php) with the standard desktop installation can i access the box via something similar to RDP on win32?
[07:04] <concon> someone here from german ?
[07:04] <WildZeck> Colloid, in text yes
[07:04] <WildZeck> Colloid, install ssh
[07:05] <stephank> concon: lots in #ubuntu-de
[07:05] <WildZeck> Colloid, and access remote ith putty under windows
[07:05] <Itkovian> If I build a regular kernel for ubuntu-powerpc, how do I build the appropriate initrd? mkintird -o foo version-bar seems to do nothing
[07:05] <peritus> dmlinux: im not sure. the card is wg511t from netgear(http://www.netgear.com/products/details/WG511T.php) , and the AP is linksys WAP54G
[07:06] <dmlinux> peritus chek your settings on your router, make sure they do not read "super G mode " or "gaming mode" that makes the connection fast but unreliable
[07:07] <peritus> dmlinux: my AP is in "mixed" mode
[07:07] <peritus> btw. iwconfig says
[07:07] <peritus> ath0      IEEE 802.11g
[07:07] <dmlinux> peritus put it in G only if no one else uses your router.
[07:08] <peritus> okey
[07:08] <peritus> dmlinux: now im in G-Only
[07:09] <dmlinux> peritus that MIGHT fix it.
[07:09] <dmlinux> peritus try it out for a bit
[07:09] <peritus> yeah
[07:09] <peritus> thanks
[07:09] <tenco> hi! where can i get a mysql-doc package for breezy ? its not in the repos
[07:10] <dmlinux> peritus similar thing was happening to my Girlfriends connection with my router. i had it in gaming mode, and it was very unstable, so since my wifi card supports a/b/g and hers is b, i put it in B mode, and i have NEVER had a disconnection since
[07:10] <PatrikJohansson> Has anyone here gotten photoshop cs2 to work in ubuntu??
[07:11] <dmlinux> it is
[07:11] <peritus> dmlinux: ahh i see
[07:11] <Itkovian> cens0red: it exists on MacOSX too
[07:12] <dmlinux> peritus could be as little as the router was working too hard translating modes
[07:12] <cens0red> Itkovian i c. ty.
[07:12] <dmlinux> later taters
[07:13] <tenco> hi! where can i get a mysql-doc package for breezy ? its not in the repos
[07:14] <amarock> tenco: u can download the whole mysql reference from mysql.com
[07:14] <paxmaster> how could I burn a iso image
[07:14] <Itkovian> tenco: patience ...
[07:14] <paxmaster> using cdrecord
[07:14] <ssam> are you running breezy?
[07:14] <amarock> paxmaster: are u on linux? use k3b or gnomebaker
[07:15] <paxmaster> I can burn with k3b
[07:15] <n00bix> gnomebaker is pretty good.
[07:15] <ssam> paxmaster, breezy you can right click on an iso and there is an option to burn it
[07:15] <patrick_> hello, does anyone have a little time to spare to help an ubuntu noob to overcome fakeroot error on creating .deb from .bin installing j2eesdk java
[07:15] <sunshine82> how do i fix v4l -conf
[07:15] <paxmaster> but I want to make a script so I could burn it
[07:16] <paxmaster> that the reason it will be better for me to use cdrecord
[07:16] <sunshine82> how do i delete files from home directory that has a lock on them
[07:16] <djib> PatrikJohansson, use the gimp ^^
[07:17] <djib> have you tried installing it and running it in wine ?
[07:17] <Itkovian> sunshine82: erm, become root?
[07:17] <Colloid> if i set up an ubuntu server (mysql/apache/php) with the standard desktop installation can i access the box via something similar to RDP on win32? - a *GRAPHICAL* desktop accessable protocol...
[07:18] <haselden> Colloid: you could try vnc
[07:18] <dewd> Colloid, yes, use nomachine.com and freenx
[07:18] <paxmaster> well I try to do cdrecord -scanbus but it didn't give the correct output of dev=
[07:18] <dewd> Colloid, it's a very cool way to access a linux server
[07:18] <DawnF> does anyone know how to boot ubuntu when transfering the HD to a machine that has Windows
[07:18] <DawnF> (probably changing the MBR, but i don't know how...)
[07:19] <Boelraty> install Grub
[07:19] <Boelraty> or Lilo
[07:19] <morale> anyone running ubuntu on amd64 with an ATI videocard and it actually work properly
[07:19] <thrush> DawnF: switch the boot order in your bios might be easiest
[07:19] <dewd> Colloid, check out the nomachine.com site and the Ubuntu Breezy FreeNX packages: deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas freenx
[07:19] <DawnF> but will grub find the right config?
[07:19] <DawnF> i mean, the setup is slightly different (now IDE instead of SATA for Windows)
[07:19] <Kuolio> morale: yes _o/
[07:19] <KurtKraut> I've done sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/swap bs=1M count=3000 - how can I undo this command ?
[07:20] <Kuolio> i have 64bit ubuntu and fully working ati 3d
[07:20] <DawnF> can i just run the installation CD to re-install grub?
[07:20] <sonofx51> i'm having problems trying to play mp3's on this ubuntu box.. and i was wondering if there was a link or soemthing i could read or do to find out how to fix this. Xmms freezes when i use it and totem says it doesnt have the proper plugin...
[07:20] <ferulo> ey, 2.6.14 packages for ubuntu anywhere?
[07:20] <Seveas> KurtKraut, sudo rm /tmp/swap
[07:20] <thrush> DawnF: plug your ubuntu hd in the same ide slot and everything it should show up as ha then..
[07:20] <KurtKraut> Seveas, thx
[07:20] <morale> kuolio, does the fireglcontrolpanel work without giving you a libexpat.so.1 relocation error?
[07:20] <Kuolio> it is messed up atm, but there is good how-to on ubuntu forums ---> breezy ---> 64bit to get it going
[07:20] <thrush> DawnF: then you need to setup grub to boot windows..
[07:21] <gleesond> what is a good program to burn dvd's and audio cds?
[07:21] <Kuolio> morale, thats the problem "out-of-the-box", you'll find the fix in that forum thread
[07:21] <Bachus9000> I don't know whether to ask this here or in a Cedega channel, but since I only have the problem with Ubuntu I guess I'll start here. :)  Anyway, when loading games through Cedega I've noticed that if the game runs in 640x480 normally, then Cedega will start it at 1280x1024.  This wouldn't be a huge deal, but my monitor makes an annoying clicking sound when it switches out of that resolution, which makes me believe I really
[07:21] <Bachus9000> shouldn't run at that res. :)  Running the same game (same Cedega version, too) on a different distribution--for example, Suse--gives the expected 640x480 resolution.
[07:21] <DawnF> okay i'll try it
[07:21] <sunshine82> itkovian then what what the command
[07:21] <DawnF> i'm kind of curious to see if it works, since the configs are kind of different on both pc's
[07:21] <thrush> DawnF: xp can be picky dont know if moving hd will cause it to complain
[07:21] <paxmaster> well I did this  but I don't think is the right command cdrecord -v -pad speed=1 dev=0,0,0 src.iso
[07:22] <pantra> hi
[07:22] <morale> kuolio, ok thanks
[07:22] <DawnF> so how should i re-install grub?
[07:22] <Kuolio> morale: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75585
[07:22] <thrush> in ubuntu or from floppy?
[07:22] <DawnF> from floppy
[07:22] <DawnF> (cd)
[07:22] <DawnF> I can't boot ubuntu now
[07:22] <thrush> DawnF: you have livecd?
[07:23] <DawnF> nope
[07:23] <DawnF> but i just installed breezy on a different system
[07:23] <PatrikJohansson> djib, yes i have but i cant manage to import the registration from regedit in windows so when i start it i get an error that itt cant find serialnumber and user information and then it quits :(
[07:23] <thrush> prob easiest with knoppix or ubuntu live
[07:23] <DawnF> and noticed that at some point there was an option for the grub menu installation
[07:24] <sunshine82> im gettin this error  when i type xawtv -c /dev/video1
[07:24] <sunshine82> : v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway v4l2: open /dev/video1: No such file or directory
[07:24] <sunshine82>  how do i fix this
[07:24] <DawnF> thanks trush
[07:24] <DawnF> i'll download the livecd then
[07:24] <sonofx51> does anyone else have problems using XMMS, when i go to use it to play a mp3 it freezes..
[07:24] <thrush> come back w/ livecd very easy to reinstall grub
[07:24] <kev_> i have two ubuntu desktops (A and B) and a single printer connected to A. both are running firestarter and allow incoming traffic on port 631. with firestarter enabled on computer B, B can't see the printer attached to A. but if i disable firestarter on B it works fine. what ports, other than ipp (631) need to be open?
[07:25] <tenco> Itkovian: sorry, amarock: thanks. do you know why it was removed? afaics, mysql is in ubuntu main
[07:25] <hyperz> hi
[07:25] <Itkovian> tenco: hey, np.
[07:25] <tenco> amarock: phps license issues?
[07:25] <Itkovian> I can get pretty impatient too, sometimes
[07:25] <tenco> :)
[07:26] <hyperz> hey , hoiw do i open a .run file (its a game demo) ?!?
[07:26] <hyperz> how*
[07:26] <hyperz> any1 ? :sss
[07:26] <djib> PatrikJohansson, I'm sorry I don't use Wine... I can't tell you
[07:27] <kev_> hyperz: run chmod +x filename.run; ./filename.run
[07:27] <Ninjew> hyperz: sh filename.run
[07:27] <hyperz> i dont use wine either , its supose to be a linux demo
[07:27] <hyperz> quake3
[07:27] <hyperz> for linux...
[07:27] <Ninjew> hyperz: yeah, just do sh quake3-install-whatever.run or whatever
[07:28] <amarock> tenco: im sorry but i cant get what ur trying to ask buddy
[07:28] <hyperz> if i click on it it wont open but try's to open it with some sort of "notepad"
[07:29] <tenco> amarock: np. was mysql-doc removed from the ubuntu main repository because of license issues?
[07:29] <hyperz> the problem is , i cant install (dont know how) things in linux amarock
[07:29] <amarock> tenco: oh...dunno that dude
[07:30] <hyperz> kk
[07:30] <Ninjew> hyperz: Open a terminal
[07:30] <amarock> hyperz: ask then...we're here to help..read some guides..its easy
[07:30] <kev_> hyperz: it opens in gedit (notepad like program) b/c the file's permissions do not include "execute". right-click, choose properties, then permissions, then check the owner's execute box
[07:30] <Itkovian> hyperz:  sh foo.run ?
[07:30] <Itkovian> hyperz: do 'file foo.run'
[07:30] <Itkovian> what does that say?
[07:31] <sunshine82> does anyone know about xawtv
[07:31] <sunshine82> or configurin v4l
[07:32] <kev_> sunshine82: i do, somewhat
[07:32] <hyperz> euh , hold on Itkovian plz
[07:32] <Itkovian> sure
[07:32] <hyperz> thx
[07:33] <PatrikJohansson> djib; np
[07:34] <Sithy`> hi, the installer isnt displaying my current partitions, howcome ?
[07:34] <sunshine82> kev_ im tryin to get my webcam to work i need to set up the v4l and xawtv
[07:34] <n00bix> anyone else having difficulty getting this stream? http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2005/s1490610.htm
[07:34] <n00bix> it's a current affairs program.
[07:35] <kev_> are there known issues with firestarter and ipp-style network printing
[07:35] <n00bix> sorry this is the stream http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200510/r62273_171748.ram
[07:35] <kev_> sunshine82: have you checked the ubuntu wiki? or checked google for instructions specific to your webcam?
[07:35] <sunshine82> kev_ when i xawtv -c /dev/video0
[07:36] <kev_> sunshine82: i've only used v4l2 when tv tuner cards (hauppauge 250 and 500) so my webcam knowledge is minimal
[07:36] <sunshine82> kev_ when i xawtv -c /dev/video0 it comes up with cant open /dev/video
[07:36] <sunshine82> kev_ do u know how to config /dev/cideo
[07:36] <hyperz> a 1000 times thx to all the peeps here who gave info to me , it works now :DDD
[07:36] <kev_> sunshine82: you need to load some sort of driver/module to support your webcam. loading that module will cause /dev/video to be created, and then xawtv will likely start working
[07:36] <sunshine82> kev_ do u know how to config v4l
[07:37] <tristanmike> n00bix, I have it going, not the clearest, but I hear and see it
[07:37] <kev_> sunshine82: it's not so much configuring v4l (or v4l2 -- the 2nd generation of v4l) as opposed to finding a module that supports your webcam and the v4l interface
[07:37] <nebular> I'm running hoary and my dvd and cd driver always startup with dma off.. how can I get it to enable automatically?
[07:37] <kev_> sunshine82: have you searched google or the wiki?
[07:37] <n00bix> tristanmike well I've got problems with my totem-gstreamer/ vlc set up then.
[07:38] <sunshine82> kev_ i got my driver
[07:38] <Tomcat_> nebular: Change /etc/hdparm.conf
[07:38] <tristanmike> n00bix, do you use firefox?
[07:38] <nebular> Tomcat_: thanks I knew I was missing something obvious
[07:39] <n00bix> traveller *nod nod*
[07:39] <n00bix> tristanmike  *nod nod*
[07:39] <tristanmike> n00bix, do you have the mediaplayerconnectivity extention? and I'm using totem to view it
[07:39] <Vanguarde> Ah, here it is, fantastic
[07:39] <Sithy`> partman only displays my drive (SCSI (0,0,0) (sda) - 160.0 GB ATA WDC WD1600JS-OOM) in the "partman", i can i only create a new partitions table, and not just create the necessary aditional partitions on the existing table, how come ?
[07:39] <kev_> sunshine82: which driver is that? and what type of webcam do you have?
[07:39] <sunshine82> kev_ i
[07:40] <Vanguarde> I'm getting an error compiling WINE 0.9 -> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext
[07:40] <Vanguarde> Any way I can solve this?
[07:40] <sexcopter8000m> hi there, I really like the way in xubuntu you can define a list of pictures and at log-in it picks one at random and sets it as the desktop wallpaper. is it possible in gnome to do that?
[07:40] <n00bix> tristanmike I haven't heard of a "mediaplayerconnectivity extention". Is that in the standard repositories somewhere?
[07:40] <Vanguarde> I read something about makedefs but I wouldn't know how
[07:40] <sunshine82> kev_ driver is mw802 and webcam is ame group cu-98a
[07:40] <tristanmike> n00bix, no, it's on the firefox webpage
[07:40] <mula`> has anyone in here installed vmwareplayer on breezy?
[07:40] <thomerz> hi, which line i have to uncomment, if i don't want to have sudo rights for my user?
[07:40] <n00bix> tristanmike aaah.
[07:41] <n00bix> tristanmike do I need that to get streaming?
[07:41] <mula`> vi /etc/sudoers
[07:41] <LokeDK> hmm crap.. update-manager is broken.. http://pastebin.com/405488 this is the error it closes with
[07:41] <smgil> I have a proble with apache2 trying to access a directory out of document root using a <Directory> clause,
[07:42] <tristanmike> n00bix, it doesn't hurt...https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=446
[07:42] <Waerner> I have a question about fsck and reiserfsck. How does it work? I get the error "Partition /dev/hda1 is mounted with write permissions, cannot check it"   -But I still want to use it, what should I do...?
[07:43] <mula`> anybody got a running lexmark Z600 series on 5.10 ? d'oh !!!
[07:43] <smgil> I made this configuration in ms windows before and it worked, do Ubutu has any special surity restriction to access files in this way
[07:43] <kev_> sunshine82, give me a sec. i'm searching for more info on your webcam
[07:43] <mula`> Waerner: you dont need to fsck a reiserfs partition
[07:43] <mula`> it is a journalling system
[07:43] <GreenFireD> hello, how can  I install gtk 2.0 skype?
[07:43] <GreenFireD> hello, how can  I install gtk 2.0 style?
[07:43] <Revellion> GreenFireD: simple
[07:43] <sunshine82> kev_ http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=598
[07:43] <Revellion> GreenFireD: put it in your ~/.themes
[07:44] <GreenFireD> how? :L
[07:44] <Revellion> GreenFireD: i.e lets say you have hotthemegtk2.tar.gz
[07:44] <thrush> vanguarde: dunno if this will help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29996.html
[07:44] <Revellion> and you tar -xvzf it
[07:44] <Revellion> you might get hotthemegtk2/gtk2.0/gtkrc in the terms of structure
[07:44] <Vanguarde> I'll have a look at it, thanks
[07:44] <Revellion> then you just mkdir .themes in your home
[07:44] <Revellion> and mv hotthemegtk2 .themes
[07:44] <Waerner> mula': But is there anyway to check the whole drive then? Like MS CHKDSK... I think it might be some physical errors
[07:44] <Revellion> and voila
[07:44] <Revellion> then use your theme manager of choice and choose it ^_^
[07:45] <GreenFireD> Revellion, thanks, I am trying it now
[07:45] <ssam> are the forums down?
[07:46] <tristanmike> ssam, I'm there
[07:46] <kev_> sunshine82, so what driver do you have?
[07:46] <ssam> tristanmike, thats odd, i can't get to them
[07:46] <XiCillin> I know ubuntu can work with amd64's but what about amd64 X2 processors?
[07:46] <PatrikJohansson> how do i run .sh files??
[07:46] <lilg> Hey all
[07:47] <XiCillin> sh file.sh
[07:47] <PatrikJohansson> yeah
[07:47] <Sithy`> the ubuntu installer only displays my drive (SCSI (0,0,0) (sda) - 160.0 GB ATA WDC WD1600JS-OOM) in the "partman", i can i only create a new partitions table, and not just create the necessary aditional partitions on the existing table (ie it doesnt seem ot detect my other partitions) how come ?
[07:47] <thrush> PatrikJohansson: or chmod a+x filename..
[07:47] <sunshine82> kev_ nw802-2.4-0.0.99
[07:47] <sunshine82>  im tryin to configure it it comin up error
[07:47] <kev_> sunshine82: what error?
[07:48] <LokeDK> hmm crap.. update-manager is broken.. http://pastebin.com/405488 this is the error it closes with
[07:48] <lilg> i was wondering if anyone has had any problems with the installation of 5.10, problems beeing not wanting to retreive pcakages at 6%
[07:49] <GreenFireD> Revellion, where is the filed after i did tar -xvzf ?
[07:49] <GreenFireD> files*
[07:49] <sunshine82> kev_when i tryot make it say inux/kernel.h: No such file or directory
[07:49] <sunshine82> 
[07:49] <mula`> LokeDK: reinstall it?
[07:49] <lilg> lo lonewolff :)
[07:49] <brandonz> hi trying to switch to using maildir format with breezy. Having a real hard time because mutt is not accepting the maildir directive in .muttrc. Seems like a system-wide muttrc file has little effect too. anyone else run into this sort of thing?
[07:50] <LokeDK> ... err okay
[07:50] <Ofe> Hi. I'm trying to get flash to work under firefox or any program. I've installed flashplugin-nonfree with command "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree". do I have to install any other plugins to firefox to make flash work under it?
[07:50] <anacron> hey!
[07:50] <Revellion> GreenFireD: in a nice dir named the swame as the tar.gz?
[07:50] <Revellion> like hotthemegtk2.tar.gz could produce hotthemegtk2 <= dir
[07:50] <sunshine82> kev_when i try to make usbvideo.c:20:24: error: linux/slab.h: No such file or directory
[07:51] <mula`> you need the devel files
[07:51] <GreenFireD> what is the mean mkdir .themes in my home ?
[07:51] <kev_> sunshine82: have you installed the kernel header package?
[07:51] <punkie> i have problems with my xwindow? it's my video card i think? it's an ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600 TURBO PRO?  do i need to instal extra drivers? or are the drivers from ubuntu ok?
[07:51] <GreenFireD> I am getting :
[07:51] <GreenFireD> root@212:/home/dima/Desktop# mv Clearlooks-Quicksilver BROWN .themes
[07:51] <GreenFireD> mv: cannot stat `Clearlooks-Quicksilver': No such file or directory
[07:51] <GreenFireD> mv: cannot stat `BROWN': No such file or directory
[07:51] <Revellion> ....
[07:51] <sunshine82> kev_how do i install that
[07:51] <Revellion> why in hell are you running as root?
[07:52] <Revellion> punkie: fglrx
[07:52] <Revellion> punkie: xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:52] <GreenFireD> me?
[07:52] <Revellion> GreenFireD: yes..
[07:52] <anacron> is there any ubuntu channel in spanish?
[07:52] <LokeDK> could anyone tell me how to reinstall a package with apt-get? dun remember the command
[07:52] <kev_> sunshine82: load a terminal and run 'uname -a'.
[07:52] <brandonz> nailed it. nevermind. it was the /etc/Muttrc file
[07:52] <HappyFool> !es
[07:52] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:52] <brandonz> thanks for listening
[07:52] <Ofe> !es
[07:53] <ssam> anacron, maybe #ubutnu-es
[07:53] <kev_> sunshine82: then load synatpic and search for 'linux-headers'. find the package with the same version number and select to install it.
[07:53] <anacron> thanks
[07:53] <lilg> p
[07:53] <Revellion> LokeDK: man apt-get + /reinstall
[07:53] <kev_> sunshine82: also ensure you have the build-essential package installed
[07:53] <bill> hello, i am new to using linux and i am having trouble getting my printer to work could someone help me?
[07:53] <anacron> ~~
[07:53] <sunshine82> kev_Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Thu Sep 15 21:14:32 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:53] <punkie> Revellion: with apt-get?
[07:53] <Revellion> kev_: apt-get install kernel-package should provide the headers stoo
[07:53] <Revellion> *too
[07:53] <Revellion> punkie: yes?
[07:53] <Revellion> apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:54] <GreenFireD> Revellion, ok so how i need to delete the files that I tar -xvzf?
[07:54] <lilg> bill: tried using samba?
[07:54] <Revellion> GreenFireD: did'nt you see the output of the command?
[07:54] <Revellion> then you should've seen the folder it created
[07:54] <Revellion> and a simple rm -r *theme-folder* should do it
[07:54] <Revellion> in your case
[07:54] <HappyFool> Revellion: kernel-package does not obvious have linux-headers-* as dependencies
[07:54] <Revellion> Clearlooks..... and BROWN
[07:54] <punkie> Revellion: and then?
[07:54] <Revellion> HappyFool: ouch
[07:55] <kev_> Revellion: how does it know which set of headers to isntall if you have multiple kernel packages installed?
[07:55] <GreenFireD> which?
[07:55] <Revellion> kev_: good Q :|
[07:55] <bill> no i  havent it reconizes printer it just doesnt print what is samba?
[07:55] <GreenFireD> ok
[07:55] <Revellion> GreenFireD: both where created by unpacking it or?
[07:55] <kev_> HappyFool: so kernel-package does not pull in linux-headers?
[07:55] <HappyFool> i believe linux-headers-<arch> is the standard package on ubuntu
[07:55] <HappyFool> kev_: doesn't look like it, no
[07:56] <n00bix> hey HappyFool  I remember from #python
[07:56] <n00bix> *remember you
[07:56] <sunshine82> kev_Linux header 2.6.12-9-386, 2.6.12-9 , and 386 are installed
[07:56] <HappyFool> hey n00bix. a while since i've been there
[07:56] <GreenFireD> look, it is one name, why it wrote me twice?
[07:56] <GreenFireD> root@212:/home/dima/Desktop# rm -r Clearlooks-Quicksilver BROWN
[07:56] <GreenFireD> rm: cannot remove `Clearlooks-Quicksilver': No such file or directory
[07:56] <GreenFireD> rm: cannot remove `BROWN': No such file or directory
[07:56] <HappyFool> GreenFireD: try putting the name in quotes
[07:56] <HappyFool> rm -r "Clearlooks-Quicksilver BROWN"
[07:56] <transgress> GreenFireD: put a \ before the space after quicksilver
[07:57] <Colloid> i installed ubuntu on an old box and it's uber choppy
[07:57] <kev_> HappyFool: any chance you're knowledgeable with networking printing via ipp?
[07:57] <Colloid> like i can't even move the mouse
[07:57] <Colloid> wtf is wrong.
[07:57] <Colloid> p3 with 256mb ram
[07:57] <GreenFireD> ok thanks
[07:57] <sunshine82> kev_ i just though of something u know when u told me to uname -a i got linux 2.6.12.8 but the linux header that are installed are 2.6.12.9
[07:57] <HappyFool> kev_: sorry, i haven't used a printer with ubuntu
[07:57] <GreenFireD> now I need to do every thing again now not in SU?
[07:58] <punkie> Revellion: what now i have downloaded
[07:58] <bill> lilg?
[07:58] <Revellion> punkie: the fglrx driver hopefully
[07:58] <Sithy`> the only options in the installer are "ERASE ENTIRE DISK", and in "manual mode" i cant see my current partitions
[07:58] <kev_> sunshine82: hmmm. was there not a version of the headers that matched exactly?
[07:58] <Revellion> punkie: to setup the xorg server to use the driver easily you could use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:59] <GreenFireD> mkdir: cannot create directory `.themes': File exists
[07:59] <sunshine82> kev_ there isnt a linux header with 2.6.12.8
[07:59] <Turandot> buenas
[07:59] <sunshine82> kev_ they are all 2.6.12.9
[07:59] <Turandot> alguien me podria dar un server del hispano?
[08:00] <rai0d> irc-hispano.org
[08:00] <kev_> anyone know if there are changes in the kernel headers between minor-minor-minor versions? ie, 2.6.12.8 vs 2.6.12.9?
[08:01] <GreenFireD> Revellion, I can't mkdir .themes . it writes me:
[08:01] <GreenFireD> mkdir: cannot create directory `.themes': File exists
[08:01] <sunshine82> kev_ the build essitial is installed
[08:01] <transgress> then move them into that directory that already exists
[08:01] <mula`> cd .themes
[08:01] <tristanmike> GreenFireD, "ls -a" to see all of the hidden files too
[08:02] <kev_> sunshine82: i;m not 100% positive if the different header versions matter
[08:02] <mirak> Whistler: I can't use a && in a gnome launcher ?
[08:02] <kev_> sunshine82: you can try building the driver again and see what happens....
[08:02] <mirak> I can't do command1 && command2
[08:02] <GreenFireD> ok I am seeing this folder in the desktop, but have still write me this
[08:04] <dell500> for some reason my XMMS isn't playing flac, is there a plugin for flac on XMMS?
[08:04] <synd> dell500: Check the xmms site.
[08:04] <synd> dell500: I do believe that there is a FLAC plugin.
[08:05] <synd> dell500: It might even be in the apt.
[08:05] <tristanmike> GreenFireD, what are you trying to do?
[08:05] <MonsieurBon> pastebin?
[08:05] <MonsieurBon> !pastebin
[08:05] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:05] <dell500> yup, it's in apt
[08:05] <dell500> thanks
[08:06] <sunshine82> kev_ how ddo i do that
[08:07] <sunshine82> kev_ is this the right page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelByHandHowto
[08:08] <homer65> 7
[08:11] <mdke> NEWSFLASH: badgers break into prison http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005490413,00.html
[08:11] <mdke> them pesky badgers are everywhere
[08:12] <Digidestinedofdr> hi
[08:12] <thebee> i have a question. i'm trying to play a mp3 on my ubuntu box and totem says it doesnt have the plugin and XMMS freezes when i try to play a mp3
[08:13] <thrush> ok i could google this but how do i scroll up in irssi?
[08:13] <tristanmike> !tell thebee about mp3
[08:13] <x86i> Can you use Debians NetInstall images to install Ubuntu?
[08:13] <thrush> their wiki seems down
[08:13] <mdke> thrush, page up
[08:13] <iiiears> thebee - gstreamer0.8-mad seemed to work for me.
[08:13] <thebee> i'll try it
[08:13] <thrush> now thats embarrasing ;) ty
[08:13] <Digidestinedofdr> ??
[08:13] <Revellion> x86i: should work :)
[08:14] <Digidestinedofdr> can someone tell me what ur talkin about
[08:14] <Revellion> x86i: just use Ubuntu's reps instead of the debian one's
[08:14] <Revellion> and it should work
[08:14] <Revellion> i were able to install Breezy Badger using just a Hoary CD in a similar fashion
[08:14] <tris622ph> i am trying to compile a project in glade. unfortunately, it doesn't show the pixmaps. it says "Couldn't find pixmap file: file.png"
[08:14] <dell500> is there a better version of ipod-linux to play flac files?  i heard it drains battery a lot more than the regular os for ipod
[08:14] <tris622ph> what shall i do
[08:14] <ubuntu> yo peopel
[08:15] <ubuntu> *people
[08:15] <thrush> omg it ubuntu!
[08:15] <ubuntu> i am using a live cd of ubuntu
[08:15] <ubuntu> whats the roots password
[08:15] <Tomcat_> lol
[08:15] <x86i> Revellion: So I just mod the confiruation of the Install image to point to the local cd rom of another machine that contains the Ubuntu cd?
[08:15] <Tomcat_> ubuntu: There is none.
[08:15] <Tomcat_> !tell ubuntu about rootsudo
[08:15] <Revellion> x86i: nah
[08:15] <Revellion> x86i: easier to just point it at the Ubuntu repositories
[08:15] <iiiears> !kernel
[08:15] <Tomcat_> !kernel
[08:16] <Syruss> sh
[08:16] <Tomcat_> :P
[08:16] <qiHEWSfi> so what software can i use to run a dos-utility to write a floppy image
[08:16] <qiHEWSfi> dosbox and wine both refused
[08:16] <x86i> Revellion: True, but I just want to know if you COULD do that. I might be installing it in some offline sites.
[08:16] <Revellion> x86i: it should be possible
[08:16] <Revellion> x86i: since apt allows fetching from http
[08:16] <Revellion> you should basically be able to mount the CDROM and share it through ftp or http jsut fine
[08:17] <sexcopter8000m> hi, trying to compile a small application a forumite made, and get this error: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3603 does this mean i'm lacking a program for the compiling?
[08:17] <iiiears> kernel is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelByHandHowto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageHowto
[08:17] <ssadikk> !ntfs
[08:17] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:17] <Tomcat_> qiHEWSfi: Sounds complicated, but one sure way is to use a DOS boot disk (find it on Google) and then boot from it.
[08:17] <iiiears> ubotu kernel is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelByHandHowto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageHowto
[08:17] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[08:17] <qiHEWSfi> tomcat yes i am trying to write a dos boot disk image
[08:17] <qiHEWSfi> tomcat floppy
[08:18] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[08:18] <qiHEWSfi> tomcat don't really wanna waste a cd
[08:18] <x86i> Revellion: Thanks, thats kinda what I was thinking, just didnt know if that net image would freak out if there was a filename difference.
[08:18] <Tomcat_> qiHEWSfi: CDRW? :>
[08:18] <qiHEWSfi> Tomcat_ have none right now
[08:18] <Tomcat_> :\
[08:18] <Revellion> x86i: :)
[08:20] <XiCillin> can ubuntu take advantage of dual core CPU's?
[08:20] <michuk> sure
[08:20] <Tomcat_> XiCillin: Yes.
[08:20] <michuk> it has smp in kernel by default
[08:20] <XiCillin> sweeeet
[08:20] <qiHEWSfi> Tomcat_ besides, the place to go is bootdisk.com
[08:20] <XiCillin> awesome
[08:20] <Tomcat_> qiHEWSfi: Yeah, I don't know that by heart... I ask Google. :>
[08:21] <seife> im trying to find a window manager called sawbox, tigmill and a theme called ancient. help  me out please
[08:21] <Tomcat_> seife: Didn't Google find anything? :o
[08:21] <seife> let me see
[08:22] <firestorm> Howdy. In OpenOffice do I have access to Times New Roman and Arial fonts?
[08:22] <bam_> finally tried kde desktop
[08:22] <bam_> yuk, just a personal opinion
[08:23] <qiHEWSfi> Tomcat_ but i do have the dos 7.10 bootable cd =)
[08:23] <PatrikJohansson> is linux similar to mac(osx) ??
[08:23] <qiHEWSfi> Tomcat_ maybe it will run 'live'
[08:23] <Tomcat_> PatrikJohansson: Let's say it has similarities... I wouldn't call it similar.
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> PatrikJohansson,  in a very Vague loose way. :P
[08:23] <tristanmike> firestorm, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[08:24] <firestorm> tristanmike: thanks :)
[08:24] <wickers> hey, just wondering... is there a more advanced # on this server?
[08:24] <tristanmike> firestorm, np
[08:24] <Tomcat_> PatrikJohansson: Especially, if you're going for the desktop, the differences are huge. There are more similarities under the hood.
[08:24] <Ofe> What's the latest version of Mozilla Firefox available for Ubuntu 5.04? Synaptic says it is 1.0.2 but www.getfirefox.com says 1.0.7 is out.
[08:24] <Tomcat_> PatrikJohansson: Although both aim for a similar user interface.
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> But the power under the 'hood' is often hidden on OS-X
[08:24] <PatrikJohansson> tomcat_ dr_willis, hehe, i was just thinking... wouldnt it be easier to emulate osx than windows since its more similar to linux and more programs and games work on it?
[08:24] <dell500> is there a good flac to mp3 converter?
[08:24] <PatrikJohansson> i mean more games than on linux
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> PatrikJohansson,  personally - i dont like OS-X and the 'emulate this or that' is a moot point.. why not be BETTER.
[08:25] <Nick_Hill> PatrikJohansson, MacOSx has a posix-like system behind the scenes. GNU/Linux is also posix. The GUI system on macOSX is proprietary. There are UIs for GNU/Linux you may or may not prefer.
[08:25] <Tomcat_> PatrikJohansson: Well, there are applications that can be compiled on both systems... and I doubt the emulation layer is smaller in any case. :o
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> The whole field of the "GUI"  design - seems to be getting worse in ways.. and better in ways. :P
[08:25] <Ofe> !firefox
[08:25] <ubotu> Ofe: No idea
[08:25] <PatrikJohansson> the point is: i need photoshop in some wat, and i need it bad :P
[08:26] <PatrikJohansson> *way
[08:26] <kbrooks> PatrikJohansson: gimp
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> Never used Photoshop. :P for my needs GIMP does it.
[08:26] <PatrikJohansson> are there any mac-emulators available
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> but each person has their own needs.
[08:26] <PatrikJohansson> ??
[08:26] <kbrooks> PatrikJohansson: WHY?
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> THere are Mac Emulator stuff out.. never used any.
[08:26] <kbrooks> PatrikJohansson: Linux native first ...
[08:27] <iiiears> There is a project to make GIMP's interface like photoshop "GIMP Shop"
[08:27] <PatrikJohansson> well i personaly "need" photoshop because i have tried gimp and i just miss photoshop too much :D
[08:27] <Nick_Hill> PatrikJohansson, Much of it is about ends and means. MacOSx is based on a system which was free before Apple got hold of it. OTOH, the same cannot happen to the linux kernel. But if you were to start putting proprietary apps on the linux kernel you are back to square 1.
[08:27] <aclonedsheep> hi, i just installed 3d desktop from synaptic...how do I use it?
[08:27] <tristanmike> !tell Ofe about backports
[08:27] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill, are there any macos emulators for linux??
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> aclonedsheep,  i think the wikis have a page on it.
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> aclonedsheep,  you mean the 'desktop changer' tool?
[08:28] <kbrooks> PatrikJohansson: gimpshop
[08:28] <kbrooks> PatrikJohansson: ^ use
[08:28] <thrush> PatrikJohansson: are you unable to install PS with wine?
[08:28] <iiiears> kbrooks thats it.
[08:28] <lilg> bill: ??
[08:28] <kbrooks> thrush: GIMPshop
[08:29] <thrush> kbrooks: i agree ;-)
[08:29] <PatrikJohansson> kbrooks, its not the inteface i miss its the tools, but gimpshop has the same tools as gimp right??
[08:29] <PatrikJohansson> thrush, i cant seem to get it working :(
[08:29] <kbrooks> PatrikJohansson: http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241
[08:29] <thrush> PatrikJohansson: hear u might need to install IE using wine as well dont know why that might be..
[08:30] <Nick_Hill> PatrikJohansson, As I see it, the big difference between (FreeBSD|Linux) and MacOSX is the cocoa infrastructure and desktop/ window manager, all are proprietary. It may be possible to make a free software implementation, but you would be up against the same bigger picture issues as wine.
[08:30] <BoD_SWAT> can qtparted resize (into a larger one) a ext3 partition? (without data loss?)
[08:30] <iiiears> IE on linux? - What is next activex scripting?  (Doh! slaps forehead)
[08:30] <Nick_Hill> BoD_SWAT, resize2fs
[08:30] <BoD_SWAT> iiiears, nnooo, no IE, please.... don't ;)
[08:31] <PatrikJohansson> well, my problem might be simple but here goes: when i try to install photoshop it just wont work, the guys at winehq told me to instead copy the ps folder, well after that i cant use it because it needs the regedit info, and i cant seem to export it from windows so it works :(
[08:31] <thrush> heard cs needs it but not ps 7..
[08:31] <Nick_Hill> BoD_SWAT, qtparted is a front end for the command-line based parted. Parted support for late ext2 and ext3 is not so good. resize2fs is better.
[08:31] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill, thx
[08:32] <BoD_SWAT> Nick_Hill, thanks, I'll take a look at it
[08:32] <tris622ph> iam having a problem using glade, who can help?
[08:32] <iiiears> PatrikJohansson - i have an answer though not an easy one - "InstallRite" snapshots your system to make application install packages.
[08:33] <BoD_SWAT> Nick_Hill, I want to finally delete my ntfs partition and make my HD full ext3..... I just need to make my current partition bigger withy any data loss (it's important I don't lose anything)
[08:33] <iiiears> PatrikJohansson, - It is free but you need to snapshot your windows system before you install photoshop and immediately afterwards
[08:34] <PatrikJohansson> iiiears, that might be an option, how do i do it??
[08:34] <LasseL> which device is the joystick port?
[08:34] <iiiears> www.epsilonsquared.com/installrite.htm
[08:34] <PatrikJohansson> thrush, have you got cs2 working in linux??
[08:34] <GloX> Hmm I'm having a problem with the install cd, I'm on a 1280x800 laptop. The screen isn't aligned right, a part of the bottom is at the top.
[08:34] <PatrikJohansson> iiiears, thx ill check it out
[08:35] <iiiears> I was so grateful i left them a micro-payment you might like that well too.
[08:35] <Nick_Hill> BoD_SWAT, If the NTFS partition is at the beginning of the drive, there may be a dance to resize the partition.
[08:36] <PatrikJohansson> cant i just copy all the reg information from windows and give it to wine :P ???
[08:36] <Nick_Hill> PatrikJohansson, It is possible to copy various DLLs but to copy the reg info would be surgical.
[08:36] <PatrikJohansson> iiiears, hopefully  yes :D
[08:36] <iiiears> PatrikJohansson, i think that you can. - i just don'yt know where to start to get it all.
[08:37] <iiiears> PatrikJohansson, - PhotoShop is best.
[08:37] <Nick_Hill> BoD_SWAT, if the NTFS partition is before the partition you want to grow, you will forst need to re-locate the partition towards the front of the drive, then stretch it.
[08:38] <Nick_Hill> BoD_SWAT, IOW, you cannot stretch partitions from the front, only from the back. If the NTFS partition is bigger than the ext3 partition, this may be easier than it sounds.
[08:38] <dpm> hi there
[08:38] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill, iiears.... well the people att winehq said to export the info from windows and then add it to the sytem.reg file in wine
[08:38] <iiiears> PatrikJohansson, - regmon   from the sysinternals site should let you peek at what reg keys photoshop needs as it runs.
[08:38] <Surak> Hello. I want to ask where are the VTs on the latest breezy live?
[08:38] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill, iiears.... but i cant find the info specific for PS
[08:38] <Nick_Hill> PatrikJohansson, I am not sufficiently up to speed with wine devel to know there is a regedit for wine.
[08:39] <dpm> quick question: does anyone know what an "upstream developer" is?
[08:39] <BoD_SWAT> Nick_Hill, thanks dude. I just wanted to be sure :D
[08:39] <dell500> is there another browser besides mozilla on gnome?
[08:39] <Surak> I want to ask where are the VTs on the latest breezy live? There are no more VTs on it. Which prevents the machine from showing the shutdown messages.
[08:39] <PatrikJohansson> iiiears, please tell me more about that.... how??
[08:39] <Surak> del500: Firefox and epyphany.
[08:39] <Surak> dell500: all use gecko, tough.
[08:40] <pickett_> dillo aswell
[08:40] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill, well there is a file that contains all the reg info.. but i cant seem to insert the right values for PS
[08:40] <Nick_Hill> BoD_SWAT, If your ntfs partition is hda1 and your ext partition is hda2, and hda1 is bigger than hda2, you can relocate the file system like this: dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hda1 ###this is dangerous.
[08:40] <iiiears> sysinternals is a site filled with truely unique and powerful windows tools
[08:40] <chaosblue> Can anyone help me with a network config issue?  rtl8139 ethernet, Hoary.
[08:40] <pickett_> and some text based browsers..
[08:40] <PatrikJohansson> nick_hill, and yes you can run the regedit.exe through wine
[08:40] <misfit_toy> off-topic but can someone confirm for me that Cisco routers and switches number their ports 1-24 and not 0-23?
[08:40] <chaosblue> I've exhausted everything I've found.
[08:40] <BoD_SWAT> Nick_Hill, I'll use qtparted or resize2fs :)
[08:41] <BoD_SWAT> Nick_Hill, thanks mate :D
[08:41] <iiiears> they sell more powerful suites of tools but the command line and limited gui tools a free.
[08:41] <PatrikJohansson> iiiears. ok ill check it out too
[08:42] <Nick_Hill> BoD_SWAT, Ok, but you may need to use dd and fdisk. It may be better to create a separate /home partition then delete other partitions, re-create and re-install, unless you are experienced.
[08:42] <PatrikJohansson> iiiears. is it sysinternals.com??
[08:43] <iiiears> Yes
[08:43] <iiiears> AnalogX is a similar site with some very unique and useful tools.
[08:43] <sunshine82> im tryin to rebuild my kernel can someone please help me
[08:43] <BoD_SWAT> Nick_Hill, thanks for all the advice. I think I'll do the partitioning tomorrow, for now I'll try to install my ATI drivers (got the howto already here :D)
[08:43] <ImBrian> anyone know if it's possible to run PHP4 on Apache1.3x on Breezy?  I keep getting a dependancy for PHP4 asking for Apache2.  If I disable Apache2 and run Apache1, PHP stops working.
[08:44] <sunshine82> my unmae -a does not match my linux header
[08:46] <iiiears> ImBrian - erm, - I have been using "L.A.M.P." linux apache mysql php - it is a preasembled package on source forge. - very convenient
[08:46] <aclonedsheep> does anyone use 3ddesktop? the opengl desktop changer tool
[08:46] <aclonedsheep> iinstalled it but dont know what to do now
[08:47] <Nick_Hill> ImBrian, Check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:47] <pepper> help me please im canot find and instal gaim 1.1.5
[08:47] <ImBrian> iiiears, but I have specific needs (PHP4, Apache 1.3).  Does LAMP include those?  I would assume it was only the most current of each.
[08:47] <Nick_Hill> ImBrian, LAMP stands for Limux Apache Mysql (PERL|PHP)
[08:48] <ImBrian> Nick_Hill, yes, I know
[08:48] <iiiears> IMBrian - i think you are right. - also if your job depends on it there is no better feeling than to have built a solid package on your own.
[08:48] <lukewarm> *cough*Python*cough*
[08:48] <pepper> how can i find gaim 1.1.5
[08:48] <ImBrian> iiiears, when time allows, yes  ;)
[08:48] <Nick_Hill> lukewarm, :-)
[08:48] <aclonedsheep> is there a good chess training tool?
[08:48] <pepper> i search al for two fucking days
[08:49] <pepper> kan iemand me gvd helpen
[08:49] <iiiears> aclonedsheep, "GNUChess"?
[08:49] <ImBrian> hrmmm...maybe I'll have to stick with Apache2/PHP4 for now  :/
[08:49] <varunjainiitk> can any body tell me how to mount windows drive on ubuntu
[08:49] <jesse> Hello can anybody help a (relative) newbie w/ a major dependency problem? (I mean ubuntu has a problem)
[08:49] <pepper> wat een klote programma die unbuntu
[08:50] <djib> varunjainiitk, what type of file is it ?
[08:50] <darkheart> !de
[08:50] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[08:50] <pepper> je krijgt niks gedownload en geinstaleerd  en als je iets geinstaleerd krijgt vind je het niks terug
[08:50] <iiiears> varunjainiitk, - check out this link.
[08:50] <varunjainiitk> NTFS partition
[08:50] <iiiears> !ntfs
[08:50] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:50] <pepper> en hier zijn jullie ook al zo vreindelijk
[08:50] <LasseL> !nl
[08:50] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[08:50] <J`> when I am exploring my file system, changing folders - is there any way how to force the active window not to resize (e.g if im maximized and change a folder - the window minimizes!)
[08:51] <pepper> wat een klootzakken zijn julliew allemaal
[08:51] <Enlite> i just installed apache2 and php5, and restarted apache, but php docs prompt the user to download rather than execute
[08:51] <chaosblue> I have a rtl8139 based ethernet card on Hoary that isn't working.  I'm trying to set it up with a static IP.  The router will spot it for a few seconds, then nothing.  All the hardware checks out.  However, nothing happens, and it disappears from the router.
[08:51] <iiiears> varun - it has a link to winmac_fstab - the script is one click and easy to understand if you examine it to see how it works
[08:51] <pepper> g
[08:51] <pepper> g
[08:51] <pepper> g
[08:51] <pepper> g
[08:51] <pepper> g
[08:51] <pepper> g
[08:51] <budluva> !pastebin
[08:51] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:51] <pepper> g
[08:51] <pepper> g
[08:51] <pepper> gtg
[08:51] <pepper> g
[08:51] <pepper> g
[08:51] <LasseL> please stop
[08:51] <PatrikJohansson> please waste the morron
[08:51] <pepper> never
[08:51] <pepper> help maar klootzak
[08:51] <ImBrian> look how funny pepper is!
[08:51] <MonsieurBon> I just wanted to compile a package and get this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3600 Any ideas?
[08:51] <PatrikJohansson> yeah .... hahaha
[08:52] <pepper> k9ijk wat voor kanker hoer jij bent
[08:52] <aclonedsheep> iiiears, I have gnuchess its an AI for something like eboards right?
[08:52] <Enlite> i just installed apache2 and php5, and restarted apache, but php docs prompt the user to download rather than execute
[08:52] <jesse> Is there a good noobie channel?
[08:52] <pepper> inbrian is een gore flikker
[08:52] <PatrikJohansson> !de
[08:52] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[08:52] <tristanmike> jesse, you're on the best now :)
[08:53] <jesse> tanks
[08:53] <iiiears> acloned - it has been developed over a long period of time. it should play a strong game
[08:53] <jesse> I got a dependency problem w packages maybe u can help?
[08:53] <pepper> hier helpt niemand yesse
[08:53] <budluva> can someone take a look at this? wine / winesetuptk packages are broken, it wont let both packages install http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3605
[08:53] <pepper> ze laten je allemaal stikkemn
[08:53] <budluva> wine wants to remove winesetuptk and winesetuptk wants to remove wine
[08:53] <aclonedsheep> cool...I guess I should just play it over and over again, I had this program for windows that was like a "trainer" gave you specific problems etc
[08:54] <tristanmike> jesse, general rule of thumb here is just ask, and someone usually helps right off the bat
[08:54] <pepper> alles geeft problemen met unbuntu
[08:54] <Subliminal> i'm trying to install opera, i'm getting errors about it depending on libt3c102-mt, i'm on breezy and i have libqt3-mt but opera refuses to install :-/
[08:54] <sunshine82> need help building kernel
[08:54] <omerlh> I need gcc that the kernel was build with. It 3.4.5. How do I install it?
[08:54] <pepper> wat you is pech hebben
[08:54] <chaosblue> OK... Is there a channel for networking issues?
[08:55] <PatrikJohansson> iiiears, nick_hill, thrush, kbrooks, thanks very much for your help... but now i have to go, ill see if any of it works later, cya
[08:55] <iiiears> budluva - this site has some nice automated scripts to install wine from the latest CVS snapshot.     (http://www.frankscorner.org/index.php
[08:55] <pepper> kj
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <LasseL> omerlh, i think it is just apt-get install gcc-3.4
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <iiiears> Patrik "Linux Communitty"
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <kbrooks> !ops
[08:55] <ubotu> [ops]  Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <sunshine82> need help building kernel
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <omerlh> OK, thanks.
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <tristanmike> bye pepper
[08:55] <pepper> k
[08:55] <PatrikJohansson> iiiears... huh??
[08:55] <LasseL> omerlh, though i thought that breezy was based on gcc 4
[08:55] <Enlite> pepper.... stfu
[08:55] <nagual> Ok.  I have my workgroup setup so I can see my samba box in view workroup computers from windows.  However When I try and browse it it asks for a login name and password.  I have used the smbpasswd -a "user" command to add my windows username and password but still cannot connect.  Any suggestions?
[08:55] <kbrooks> Enlite: ignore him
[08:55] <LasseL> !kernel
[08:55] <omerlh> No, I check, it 3.4.5
[08:55] <sunshine82> please help me
[08:55] <iiiears> we help each oither.  only windows OS has users  - lol
[08:56] <kbrooks> Amaranth: did you get hilighted or did you see the spam? ;)
[08:56] <sunshine82> my uname -a does not match my linux header
[08:56] <omerlh> How can I check  which boot loader I have?
[08:56] <Amaranth> got highlighted
[08:56] <PatrikJohansson> iiiears. well thats one of the many things i love...
[08:56] <kbrooks> Amaranth: :)
[08:56] <PabloK> hi
[08:56] <Amaranth> omerlh: If you're running Ubuntu you more than likely have grub
[08:56] <trans_err> when playing quake4 my sound card drops frames so the sound is all garbled-- its a problem with alsa, but I don't know how to fix it. I get this error over and over: snd_pcm_writei short write: 940 out of 1024
[08:57] <MonsieurBon> anyone knows, why I get this error when running make? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3600
[08:57] <omerlh> Thanks
[08:57] <aclonedsheep> Does anyone know how to use 3d desktop?
[08:57] <PatrikJohansson> iiiears. well thx again and i hope it works :D
[08:57] <foxgamer> Hey all. Anyone here use xfce? I'm having a few problems. Cheers
[08:57] <Enlite> can someone help w/ my php prob?.. when a php file is clicked from my webserver, it asks to download the php file
[08:57] <Surak> aclonedsheep: 3ddesktop is just a virtual screen switcher.
[08:58] <jesse> I tried to install flightgear version 0.9.4 directly from synaptic which was  unsuccesful.When I restarted Synaptic I got an error telling me to fix 3 broken packages. So I did, and then was about to apply some other (minor) changes that I made when I read the fine print and saw that synaptic wants to remove 191 pacakges
[08:58] <jesse> HElp
[08:58] <sunshine82> i have macromedia player but it doesnt seem to be workin how can i fix it
[08:59] <iiiears>  Sun Java 3D Desktop seems interesting anyone tried it?
[08:59] <trans_err> iiiears: I have-- awhile ago-- its still mostly unusable
[08:59] <nagual> Ok.  I have my workgroup setup so I can see my samba box in view workroup computers from windows.  However When I try and browse it it asks for a login name and password.  I have used the smbpasswd -a "user" command to add my windows username and password but still cannot connect.  Any suggestions?
[08:59] <iiiears> trans_err - okay - saved me a few aspirin. - grin
[09:00] <trans_err> iiiears: yeah, its fun to play with-- but I wouldn't use it seriously for anything
[09:00] <thrush> Enlite: i believe there is a #php channel on freenode
[09:01] <iiiears> Except maybe spiking share price with a quick demo.... - lol
[09:01] <Subliminal> i'm trying to install opera, i'm getting errors about it depending on libt3c102-mt, i'm on breezy and i have libqt3-mt but opera refuses to install :-/
[09:01] <Some_Person[sick> Does any1 here have Simcity 3000?
[09:01] <LasseL> jesse, if you don't get help here try searching http://ubuntuforums.org/
[09:01] <aclonedsheep> Has anyone here had any luck getting vpnc or cisco's vpn client working?  I cant get either working...trying to get on my university's wireless
[09:01] <jesse> oh yes I got help there but
[09:01] <EvilDin> hay
[09:01] <PabloK> hi, I need help with my fstab, somebody can help me?
[09:01] <sunshine82> does anyone know how to fix skype
[09:01] <jesse> nobody could solve the problem
[09:01] <jesse> .)
[09:02] <EvilDin> how would i add programs to boot as user not us root
[09:02] <LasseL> jesse, that sucks, was it ubuntu-desktop it tried to remove?
[09:02] <Surak> sunshine82: skype: there are issues with sound? look at ubuntuforums.
[09:02] <jesse> L. It wanted to remove 191 different packages
[09:02] <EvilDin> anyone any idea
[09:02] <jesse> I tried to compile flight gear and had an unsuccesful install of libc6 >02.3.2.ds1-21 and lib gcc1 and fgfs base >0.9.8 .
[09:03] <LasseL> jesse, right, and everything depends on libc6
[09:03] <Zuiden> someone told me the other day that ndiswrapper is on the ubuntu CD on Breezy
[09:03] <Zuiden> they are a dirty rotten liar
[09:03] <jesse> L. yup
[09:03] <jesse> I installed the hoary version of libc6 and then opend up Synaptic again. Unfortunately, I get more or less the same problem. 6 Broken packages.
[09:04] <iiiears> EvilDin - thats a pretty good question would love to know the answer.
[09:04] <bjron> erm, how come the breezy kernel is 2.6.12, but there are only source packages for 2.6.10 and 11?  Am I missing something?
[09:04] <jesse> flightgear 0.9.8-3 libc6dev 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu libc6-i686 libgcc1 1:4.0.2-2 libstdc++6 4.0.2.2 locales 2.3.2ds1-20ubuntu all broken
[09:04] <EvilDin> because whemn my pc reboot all programs shuts down and have to run them again
[09:04] <LasseL> jesse, maybe you have backports enabled?
[09:04] <crimsun> bjron: of course linux-source-2.6.12 exists.
[09:05] <jesse> yes
[09:05] <jesse> is that bad ?
[09:05] <LasseL> jesse, i had a something similar and I fixed that by disabling backports
[09:05] <GloX> wow, the scroll on my touchpad works in ubuntu, it does't even in windows in most apps :o
[09:05] <Zuiden> where can i find a ndiswrapper package for breezy?
[09:05] <LasseL> jesse, and then tried to fix the packages from synaptic
[09:06] <bjron> ah, yes I was missing something, I was looking at kernel-source-2.6.x
[09:06] <jesse> Lassel, OK thanks Ill give it a try!!
[09:06] <LasseL> jesse, my guess is that you should try to disable backports and install libc6
[09:07] <LasseL> jesse, is this your post?
[09:08] <jesse> Lassel,  I dont understand What post?? I posted under ubuntu forums as user Cud "synaptic wants to remove everything" You mean this?
[09:08] <LasseL> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80432&highlight=broken+packages+libc6
[09:08] <iiiears> EvilDin - still pretty neat but not it yet. http://ae-www.technion.ac.il/InfoPages/FAQ/job_control/background.txt
[09:09] <Stormx2> Hey. Is it possibly to seamlessly mount an FTP connection into a folder?
[09:09] <Zuiden> where can i find a ndiswrapper package for breezy that i can download and move over to my ubuntu machine
[09:09] <jesse> yeah thats me
[09:09] <Surak> Zuiden: ndiswrapper is easy to compile from source.
[09:10] <christo> eveng all
[09:10] <christo> ^evening
[09:10] <Zuiden> not without kernel headers and source installed on my machine
[09:10] <sunshine82> does anyone know how i can get macromedia flash player to work
[09:11] <LasseL> jesse, maybe upgrading to breezy could save you if all else fails
[09:11] <Surak> sunshine82: please explain.
[09:11] <jesse> Lassel,
[09:11] <jesse> Lasoops
[09:11] <Zuiden> Surak: i don't have a internet connection on my machine so i would have to install the headers and compiler for me to be able to compile ndiswrapper and i need ndiswrapper to be able to connect to the internet to be able to download everything....
[09:12] <sunshine82> surak i've check the macromedia website it is installed but when i go to abc website it say the video is loading but it doesn t do anything
[09:12] <jesse> I meant, thanks, Im trying the synaptic thing now
[09:12] <iiiears> EvilDin - still a bit puzzling but it looks like you can add ~/.yourprogram to the home folder with a .sh file in the folder to start it. - i hate being new.
[09:12] <Surak> sunshine82: please try another site. For instance, video.google.com
[09:13] <Surak> Zuiden: can't you arrange a wired net connection?
[09:13] <Zuiden> no
[09:13] <iiiears> Torsmo is the example i found. - hope it is helpful.http://wiki.blagblagblag.org/Torsmo
[09:13] <Subliminal> could somebody tell me how to stop firefox freezing so often in breezy?
[09:13] <budluva> does this mean i have to install cvs? as the commands not found? or how do i do this? im trying to run WineCVS.sh /home/budluva/.WineCVS/Functions/RunWineCVS: line 736: cvs: command not found
[09:14] <Trackilizer> Hey guys.. i need your help.
[09:14] <Surak> budluva: it seems so :-)
[09:14] <Surak> Zuiden: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/debian
[09:15] <Trackilizer> I connected my 250MB USB stick and deleted all the audio files i had on it, however i only have 78MB of freespace no and not 250MB.. there are no files on the stick anymore.
[09:15] <budluva> is wine 3.3 the newest? or should i get the latest cvs release?
[09:16] <Surak> Trackilizer: empty the trash.
[09:16] <Trackilizer> I did.
[09:16] <Trackilizer> There is no trash.
[09:16] <sunshine82> surak it playin in video@google.com could adblock has block it somehow
[09:16] <ponk> I tryed to install a package but I got an error that it depands on pppoe. I checked in the package manager and it says I do have it (I even reinstalled it but nothing).
[09:17] <ssam> Trackilizer, do veiw -> hidden files in nautilus
[09:17] <budluva> iiiears you there?
[09:17] <Surak> Trackilizer: go to a terminal and do a ls -la /media/usbdisk (or whatever it is)
[09:17] <sunshine82> surak at the abc website
[09:17] <iiiears> Yes
[09:17] <budluva> iiiears im having problems with that winecvs.sh script
[09:17] <Surak> sunshine82: maybe.
[09:17] <Surak> sunshine82: or maybe just a bad route from where you're at to abc..
[09:17] <sunshine82> surak there is no sound in google though how do i fix adblock
[09:17] <Trackilizer> Surak, there seem to be some files on there.
[09:17] <Trackilizer> What now?
[09:18] <ssadik> how can i change the resolution of my screen during boot?
[09:18] <budluva> iiiears its askin me for a cvs password??? it says Password is probably : cvs so i enter cvs and then it just shows up asking me for a transgaming membership and does nothing
[09:18] <ProN00b> i am currently working with a 8051 microcontroller and our teacher only gave us some !windows! trialware compiler and flasher stuff, has anyone ever worked with something like that and knows how to get a decent development environment on linux ?
[09:18] <ssadik> how can i change the resolution of my screen during boot?
[09:18] <iiiears> I have to admit i tried to install frm CVS most were succesful. - being a newb i got Cedega.
[09:18] <sunshine82> surak we could try and fix adblock and see if it work
[09:18] <Surak> Trackilizer : rm -rf .trash
[09:18] <Trackilizer> Why does this happen anyways?
[09:18] <Surak> sunshine82: sorry, I don't know nothing about adblock.
[09:18] <budluva> iiiears i want wine for dvd decrypter / dvd shrink, not for gaming
[09:18] <Surak> Trackilizer: They're probably at a trash for a different user, isn't it?
[09:19] <ponk> I tryed to install a package but I got
[09:19] <Trackilizer> ls -la /media/usbdisk
[09:19] <Trackilizer> total 20
[09:19] <Trackilizer> drwx------  2 erhard erhard 16384 1970-01-01 01:00 .
[09:19] <Trackilizer> drwxr-xr-x  8 root   root    4096 2005-10-25 21:08 ..
[09:19] <ProN00b> they should put autoflush on usbdisks, as well as not storing stuff in .trash, both fucks with my player atm
[09:19] <ponk> omg, can anyone help me with my problem?
[09:19] <ssadik> how can i change the resolution of my screen during boot?
[09:19] <Trackilizer> What do i do now?
[09:19] <vbgunz_> Rhythmbox likes to crash a lot... How can I diagnose it?
[09:19] <budluva> ssadik edit your xorg.conf?
[09:19] <Surak> budluva:  wine latest release is 0.9
[09:19] <Stormx2> ponk, whats the problem?
[09:19] <ProN00b> ponk, doesn't apt-get/synaptic resolve dependancies automatically ?
[09:20] <ponk> I tryed to install a package but I got an I tryed to install a package but I got error that it depands on pppoe. I checked in the package manager and it says I do have it (I even reinstalled it but nothing).
[09:20] <Surak> Trackilizer: try to format the unit.
[09:20] <vbgunz_> ProN00b, what player you have?
[09:20] <iiiears> budluva - http://www.frankscorner.org/index.php this is what i have.
[09:20] <vbgunz_> Anyone having a problem connecting to IRC through GAIM?
[09:20] <sunshine82> does anyone know hwo to stop adblock from block in things
[09:20] <Trackilizer> Why can't i just delete them?
[09:20] <ponk> damn copy-paste...
[09:20] <MaTaKs> how to install driver for my webcam?
[09:20] <Trackilizer> How do i delete it?
[09:20] <Surak> . and .. are default files. The're not really files...
[09:20] <Stormx2> ponk: You may have the wrong version installed
[09:20] <budluva> iiiears how long did it take?
, I dont know.
[09:20] <Stormx2> ponk: Sometimes packages depend on older versions of other packages
[09:21] <bkw> My gnome workspaces are gone from the panel, how can I readd them?
[09:21] <ProN00b> some chinese thingy, and if i reload it with 128 mb of shit, it gets on instantly, but i need to unmount it cleanly so its really on it, and that takes ages, vbgunz_
[09:21] <Zuiden> ok why doesn't someone include the ndiswrapper on the CD and not the DVD
[09:21] <Zuiden> blah
[09:21] <ponk> did anyone tryed to install eciadsl drivers on ubuntu?
[09:21] <Surak> Trackilizer: type df and take a look at your usb drive.
[09:21] <isaawe32> anyone have any luck with AWE32 isa card being recognized under Breezy badger 5.10
[09:21] <vbgunz_> bkw, just right click the panel and add workspaces too it
[09:21] <iiiears> budluva to install Cedega? - about 4 minutes and $15 dollars total.
[09:21] <Trackilizer> Yes.
[09:21] <ProN00b> ponk, could you paste the error apt-get gives you somewhere ?
[09:22] <Surak> Zuiden: did that package work for you?
[09:22] <thrush> sunshine82: pkill adblock? :)
[09:22] <vbgunz_> ProN00b, ahh, I hear you, I have the SONY NW-HD1 and sad I haven't found support for it yet...
[09:22] <Trackilizer> 70% used.
[09:22] <CGA> hi all
[09:22] <ponk> I cant... :-/ I dont have internet on linux...
[09:22] <ProN00b> iiiears, and 5 bucks reoccuring per month
[09:22] <Zealot87> if i wanted to minimize all the windows on a desktop, what would the command be in terminal?
[09:22] <Zuiden> well i am trying to see if ubuntu has a the dvd packages somewhere
[09:22] <Surak> Trackilizer: if it shows only "." and "..", then there's somwething wrong.
[09:22] <ponk> but I dont think its apt-get... I did dkpg...
[09:22] <Zuiden> i would prefer to install something that is precompiled for my specific brand of debian
[09:22] <Surak> Zealot87: control alt d
[09:22] <Trackilizer> /dev/sda                251496    175880     75616  70% /media/usbdisk
[09:23] <bkw> vbgunz_: right, thank you.
[09:23] <Zealot87> surak, but what is the command in terminal?
[09:23] <iiiears> yes - but for games you need the uipdates - he wanted to use DVD decrypt and DVD Shrink. - no need for a continuing subscription there.
[09:23] <Surak> No idea.
[09:23] <ProN00b> vbgunz_, thats why you should nowdays only buy those thingys when they got some generik mass storage driver
[09:23] <isaawe32> Anyone have any luck with AWE soundcard?
[09:23] <CGA> have you seen the "new" MSN spaces' logo? it's a plagiarism of the Ubuntu logo .. anyone here knows Shutlleworth email?
[09:23] <ponk> anyway, did anyone here installed eciadsl drivers on ubuntu?
[09:23] <Zealot87> what is the command to hide all windows, in terminal?
[09:23] <Surak> CGA: its old stuff
[09:23] <ProN00b> ponk, dpkg, thats unereete
[09:23] <CGA> Surak i just noticed
[09:24] <vbgunz_> ProN00b, I can use it as a haddisk without any problems. I just cannot use it to store music and play it :(
[09:24] <ponk> thats what???
[09:24] <CGA> Surak, anyway i think that something should be done
[09:24] <ProN00b> anyone knows how to change breezy bootlogo ? ^^
[09:24] <Surak> Trackilizer: sudo umount /dev/sda ; parted /dev/sda -s mkpartfs fat32 etc....
[09:24] <iiiears> Cedega - Handles Disk Copy protection included in most of todays games.
[09:24] <Surak> ProNoob: which one? usplash?
[09:24] <Trackilizer> That will reformat?
[09:24] <vbgunz_> bkw, you're welcome :)
[09:24] <ProN00b> vbgunz_, try unmounting it from console and waiting till its done
[09:24] <Zealot87> does anyone know the command in terminal for minimizing all windows
[09:24] <Surak> Will erase the partition and create another one.
[09:24] <ProN00b> i think its called uspalsh, Surak
[09:24] <Zealot87> or does anyone know where the macros are configured??
[09:24] <meuserj|work> Zealot87, I dont' think there is one
[09:24] <Trackilizer> So, do i have to do this everytime i delete stuff on my USB stick?
[09:24] <jesse> LasseL, it didnt work. I still get this message about having to remove 191 packages, if I try to ubgrade
[09:24] <Surak> Trackilizer: no.
[09:25] <Surak> it seems something's wrong.
[09:25] <Trackilizer> Why did it happen?
 thats what????
[09:25] <vbgunz_> ProN00b, it plays the OMA format... :(
[09:25] <LasseL> jesse, did you try to install libc6
[09:25] <ProN00b> whats OMA, vbgunz_, and does it only play that ?
[09:25] <Trackilizer> So, what's the terminal command to format it?
[09:25] <Iam8up> anyone know why xwindows fails to start? i just formatted the hard drive and went through the installation, and on it's first boot it fails to start =/
[09:25] <isaawe32> sound card is detected on boot - but devices are not created (sound).  Any idea why?
[09:25] <Surak> Trackilizer: mformat /dev/sda  , or sudo gparted
[09:26] <jesse> LasseL,  I installedl ibc6_2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13_i386.deb from a downloaded package
[09:26] <aclonedsheep> how do i create a file
[09:26] <ProN00b> ponk, could you pm me your question again ?
[09:26] <isaawe32> > file
[09:26] <jesse> LasseL, when I tried
[09:26] <ProN00b> Surak, know how to change that usplash thingy ?
[09:26] <LasseL> jesse, yes, but try to install the default one again
[09:26] <vbgunz_> SONYs NW-HD1 is not really an MP3 player... It has a 20GB HD *but* plays SONYs proprietary format I believe it is ATRAC3 or something like that... not sure... *but* looking at the music on the browser shows them all formatted as .OMA
[09:26] <iiiears> Iam8up - need more info. Error message/s ?
[09:26] <jesse> LasseL, to upgrade libc6
[09:26] <Iam8up> iiiears - it just says fails to start x windows, and asks if i want a debug window, but i don't have a clue what to look for...
[09:27] <LasseL> jesse, I am a n00b too, I just try to help b/c you got ignored by everybody else even though your problem is severe
[09:27] <thrush> aclonedsheep: what kind of file?
[09:27] <ProN00b> vbgunz_, well, then just try to play the music on some non sony software player, and it will tell you what format it is, i am pretty sure you can convert to it
[09:27] <vbgunz_> ProN00b, I never bothered to look into it but maybe something is out there :|
[09:27] <aclonedsheep> i wanna make a config file for vpnc
[09:27] <vbgunz_> ProNoob sounds like a good idea
[09:27] <jesse> LasseL, OK
[09:27] <aclonedsheep> someone on the forums just posted to create it without saying how and im newb :(
[09:27] <ProN00b> u dual booting windows for your mp3 player, vbgunz_ ? ^^
[09:27] <jesse> LasseL, thanks though! :)
[09:27] <christo> what special things do I need to do to set up a ubuntu system as a print server on the network?
[09:27] <iiiears> Iam8up - hoping a more seasoned user can help with your question.
[09:27] <vbgunz_> yes
[09:27] <Surak> ProN00b: there's something inside initrd. I don't remember exactly what.
[09:28] <ProN00b> *_*
[09:28] <thrush> aclonedsheep: what I do is 'echo 'some text' >> filename.conf
[09:28] <ProN00b> is that a config file ?
[09:28] <MaTaKs> i have a question. new in linux here, how can you tell that the distro is debian base?
[09:28] <LasseL> jesse, my guess is that you gotta force the default libc6 package to install over the broken one you got
[09:28] <Iam8up> iiiears - mm, ok - would using a 5200 128MB in PCI help? any known issues w/the card?
[09:28] <Surak> MaTaks: It will probably use .DEB files.
[09:28] <vbgunz_> ProNoob, damn... I searched for OMA in Synaptic and came back with 1000 hits :P
[09:28] <ProN00b> there is the debian name everywhere, and is uses apt-get, MaTaKs
[09:28] <jesse> LasseL,  ok i'll try that
[09:28] <ProN00b> lol, vbgunz_ thats why you use apt-get oma|grep sony
[09:29] <iiiears> Iam8up - no problem with that card i use that same card with pci
[09:29] <MaTaKs> how bout the others, like mandrake fedora.. what base do they into
[09:29] <chaosblue> Hello?
[09:29] <ponk> ProN00B???
[09:29] <ProN00b> fedory is redhat, mandrake is suse or something evil ^^
[09:29] <Surak> Matakz: mandrake, suse are redhat based. Fedora is redhat
[09:29] <Iam8up> iiiears - all right, thanks
[09:29] <ProN00b> alot of those are their own bases, MaTaKs
[09:29] <MaTaKs> ProN00b: can you name some of the common bases
[09:29] <Surak> ProN00b: Suse and Mandrake (and conectiva also) are redhat forks.
[09:30] <vbgunz_> ProN00b, thanks, *but* I got an "Invalid Operation OMA"... It's cool, I am looking into it, will report back
[09:30] <ProN00b> ponk, i can't find your question anymore, you could pm me
[09:30] <ponk> I sent you a dcc invite...
[09:30] <isaawe32> Looking for soundcard advice -- breezy awe32
[09:30] <ProN00b> oh, vbgunz_ its apt-cache search oma|grep sony
[09:30] <ProN00b> ponk, its privmsg, i don't like dcc
[09:30] <aclonedsheep> thrush: what if it i need multiple lines in it
[09:30] <Surak> Mataks: Most distributions are debian or redhat based. There are others too, of course.
[09:30] <MaTaKs> so there's a redhat base :)
[09:31] <MaTaKs> isn't that redhat a name of the distro
[09:31] <Surak> Mataks: Gentoo is a entirely different beast, and so is Slackware.
[09:31] <ProN00b> debian base > shitty other base
[09:31] <MaTaKs> but now it's called fedora
[09:31] <ponk> I sent you a private msg...
[09:31] <Surak> Mataks: Fedora is redhat's free version.
[09:31] <vbgunz_> ProNoob, nothing returned... I will try something else
[09:31] <iiiears> Iam8up - i think you can try this first in a terminal type " lspci " look for the bus ID of your VGA card should be something like this "0.01.00 " plug the number you see into this command okay.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ubotu may have a helpful link.
[09:31] <Cody`> how do I mount a cd without joliet?
[09:31] <ProN00b> MaTaKs, debian is the name of a distro too, remember ?
[09:31] <iiiears> !display
[09:31] <ubotu> somebody said display was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution
[09:31] <MaTaKs> oh yea there's also a distro called debian :P
[09:32] <isaawe32> Anyone know if there is an equivalent to isapnp in breezy?
[09:32] <ProN00b> vbgunz_, you should check google for the file format and then apt-cache search that
[09:32] <Surak> Mataks: Redhat was only one distribution several years ago. They split in 3 versions: enterprise, workstation and free. The free version eventually became fedora.
[09:32] <iiiears> Iam8up - Did that help?
[09:32] <ponk> ProN00b, did you got the msg?
[09:32] <sunshine82> can someone explain to me how adblock works please
[09:32] <Zuiden> Saruk: that package didn't work
[09:32] <Trackilizer> Surak, thanks it worked.. so. what should i do to avoid thid in the future?
[09:32] <vbgunz_> ProN00b thank you for the hints!
[09:32] <Trackilizer> this*
[09:32] <thrush> aclonedsheep: after that you can open it in gedit
[09:32] <ProN00b> no, ponk, i didn't even get a dcc invite
[09:33] <MaTaKs> Surak: how bout the enterprise and workstation, what are they're names
[09:33] <ponk> I tryed to install a package, but it says it needs pppoe (acording to my package manager I have it)
[09:33] <chaosblue> Is there anyone who can help me troubleshoot an ethernet connection?
[09:33] <ProN00b> vbgunz_, sorry that i couldn't help more, i haven't worked with audio formats much (mp3/ogg is your god ^^)
[09:33] <Cody`> how do I mount a cd without joliet?
[09:33] <thrush> aclonedsheep: thats not the best way i just normally either echo or type 'vi filename' and use vi as the text editor
[09:34] <Surak> Mataks: Redhat Enterprise and Redhat Workstation!
[09:34] <Surak> Zuiden: Sorry, I'm quite busy now, or else I would compile it for you.
[09:34] <Surak> Trackilizer: empty the trash and umount the unit before removing it.
[09:34] <ProN00b> ponk, whats the exact package name it wants ?
[09:34] <ponk> pppoe
[09:34] <viktor> hi.. i have a small problem.. when i try to comple a app i get a errormsg saying i'm missing libstdc++.la how do i fix that?
[09:34] <Zuiden> its alright surak
[09:34] <vbgunz_> ProN00b, yup, I hear you... i am finding information about it now
[09:34] <Zuiden> i appreciate your help
[09:34] <Zuiden> i am going to post on the forums
[09:34] <GloX> I'm having a problem with the display in console, the screen is shifted down, and the bottom part is at the top
[09:35] <thrush> aclonedsheep: you could prob just open your file manager and rightclick select like new something..
[09:35] <GloX> I think it's trying to do 1024x768 on my widescreen (1280x800) monitor ...
[09:35] <ProN00b> ponk, it may need pppoe-dev or something, ponk
[09:36] <ponk> it says pppoe... whats pppoe-dev?
[09:36] <rel> anyone who dist-upgraded to dapper? did it break somthing badly?
[09:36] <Surak> Fabbione: why ubuntu live no longer has virtual consoles at vt1 thru vt6?
[09:37] <chaosblue> Hello?
[09:37] <ProN00b> maybe source code of pppoe so it can compile something with it, and did you install ppp stuff yet ?
[09:37] <aclonedsheep> Is anyone good with vpnc that could help me get it configured for my uni's network?
[09:37] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> I need to know apout Mp3 Decodeing and Realplayer any one got a link
[09:37] <ponk> I dont know man... I'm totaly new to linux... all I'm trying to do is to install drivers for my modem.
[09:37] <sunshine82> i have macromedia but it doesnt want to work on this website how can i fix this
[09:37] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> my name is like this B/c i am an Op on another server
[09:37] <fabbione> Surak: it does...
[09:37] <jesse> LasseL,  no luck. but libc6 itself is not broken
[09:37] <Surak> ScOrPiO-Druid-WA: what do you need?
[09:37] <ProN00b> ponk, do the default drivers work ?
[09:38] <ProN00b> did you check google for a step by step tutorial on installing em on ubuntu or maybe debian ?
[09:38] <ponk> no default drivers... its a usb adsl modem and I need eciadsl to make it work.
[09:38] <chaosblue> Am I invisible?
[09:38] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> i need to know about restricted formats MP3 Decodeing MPeg Decodeing
[09:38] <sunshine82> i have macromedia but it doesnt want to work on the abc website how can i fix this
[09:38] <B_166-ER-X> chaosblue yes
[09:38] <chaosblue> XD Thanks.
[09:38] <Iam8up> iiiears - i havn't tried it, but i'll try it once i get a chance
[09:38] <iiiears> chaosblue - nah you show up fine on screen
[09:38] <B_166-ER-X> (....)
[09:38] <Iam8up> iiiears - thanks for the suggestion
[09:39] <sunshine82> i think it has to do with adblock or popup block
[09:39] <Surak> fabbione: I'm trying in three different machines, none of them shows the virtual consoles. One is a intel mobo with a celeron, one is a msi mobo (via chip) with a amd64 and a msi (sis) with em64t. None of them has virtual consoles with breezy live.
[09:39] <iiiears> "Linux Community"
[09:39] <iiiears> ;)
[09:39] <ponk> did anyone here tryed to install eci-adsl on ubuntu?
[09:39] <jesse> Ey everyone I can't remove a package W/out removing almost the entire system.
[09:39] <fabbione> Surak: it works here.. i dunno.. file a bug in bugzilla
[09:39] <Surak> yes.
[09:40] <ProN00b> ponk, what has driven you to get a usb adsl modem ? *_*
[09:40] <christo> I installed ubuntu on my spare laptop, but it never asked me to provide a root password, so now I can't su - what's the trick here?
[09:40] <Surak> fabbione: any idea against who should I file a bug?
[09:40] <brandonz> can't get postfix to use maildir instead of mbox even with home_mailbox
[09:41] <ProN00b> ethernet card + default modem = teh win, even inbuild card is better, ponk
[09:41] <brandonz> anyone seen this?
[09:41] <ponk> omg, thats what i got from my ISP...
[09:41] <ProN00b> and you still didn't paste your error message, ponk
[09:41] <fabbione> Surak: nope..
[09:41] <EvilDin> anyone here which know how to set user startup (like for root, but that programs would be run by user, not root)
[09:41] <NoUse> !tell christo about root
[09:41] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> where can I get REALPLAYER for Ubuntu ?
[09:41] <jonny_> cyphase, do you live on here :)
[09:41] <ProN00b> lol, ponk, your isp should provide support to you then, them fuxxors
[09:41] <ProN00b> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa, did you try synaptic... ?
[09:41] <iiiears> jesse - "ubuntu-desktop" (crosses fingers AND knocks on wood) is a meta package that can reinstall most of it
[09:41] <budluva> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[09:41] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> yeah
[09:41] <ponk> they dont know what linux is...
[09:41] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> nothing
[09:41] <budluva> does that mean i have to install gcc?
[09:42] <thrush> christo: there is no root account 'sudo su' or 'sudo -s' or 'sudo command' and use your pass
[09:42] <jonny_> can I get edubuntu with a get-apt command?
[09:42] <thrush> christo: its disabled
[09:42] <ponk> I ask them what to do and they keep saying I have windows...
[09:42] <ProN00b> ponk, they ARE lying to you, you can be sure 99% of their hardware runs linux, other unix flavors...
[09:42] <crimsun> jonny_: sure, aptitude install edubuntu-desktop
[09:42] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> im installing K3b right now ....................
[09:42] <christo> thrush,NoUse - okay thanks
[09:42] <chaosblue> ponk: I feel your pain.
[09:42] <jonny_> thanks
[09:42] <christo> weird tho
[09:42] <christo> I don't really like that
[09:42] <iiiears> christo gksudo will give many apps root powers
[09:42] <ProN00b> ponk, insist on talking to the master chief, and if you are talking to him, flame him
[09:43] <iiiears> gksudo gedit
[09:43] <jonny_> BTW, thrash, the file was not corrupted!
[09:43] <thrush> ponk: ask to speak with a 2nd level or 2nd tier tech maybe
, well the support guys dont know nothing about linux...
[09:43] <thrush> ponk: ask to speak with a 2nd level or 2nd tier tech maybe
[09:43] <jonny_> thrush*
[09:43] <ProN00b> ponk, then insist on talking to the master chief...
[09:43] <Surak> ponk: support guys are monkes :-)
[09:43] <jesse> iiiears, can I find ubuntu-desktop on synaptic
[09:44] <ponk> I dont see how will it help... the modem just dont have drivers...
[09:44] <ProN00b> support people never know anything
[09:44] <Surak> ponk: what modem?
[09:44] <ponk> ALE130
[09:44] <ProN00b> only stupid people use/need their help
[09:44] <iiiears> jesse yes, that would be the best place. - synaptic handles conflicts a little better than apt-get i think.
[09:44] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> where do i go to loearn about Resrticted Formats ?
[09:44] <chaosblue> I can't get my ethernet card to work.  It's rtl8139 based.
[09:44] <Surak> ponk: what kind of modem is this?
[09:45] <ponk> usb adsl
[09:45] <Surak> hm... no good.
[09:45] <chaosblue> I was able to configure eth0, but the router isn't seeing it.
[09:45] <ssam> iiiears, apt-get and synaptic are pretty much the same, the are a few more deleloper tools on the command line
[09:45] <thrush> ponk: you cant use ethernet?
[09:45] <jesse> iiiears, hmmm, synaptic still tells me that many many packages will be removed
[09:45] <Surak> jesse: what did you try to remove?
[09:45] <ponk> it has druvers at eciadsl... but I having trouble installing them.
[09:46] <richie_> any other guides to configuring nvidia apart from ubuntuguide.org?
[09:46] <ssam> iiiears, aptitude however has a fancy thing for uninstalling stuff you dont need anymore
[09:46] <iiiears> jesse - i hope someone has an answer for you . looks like a very tough choice.
[09:46] <chaosblue> I've tried googling, but any help I find even close to my problem asks me to configure files that don't exist.
[09:46] <Surak> ponk: If there's a ethernet interface, use it.
[09:46] <chaosblue> The forums aren't any help, either.
[09:46] <iiiears> Thanks ssam. :)
[09:46] <ssam> iiiears, no problem
[09:46] <jonny_> this command does not work for me:aptitude install edubuntu-desktop
[09:46] <ssam> jesse, whaat are you trying to remove
[09:47] <ponk> ethernet? I dont think I an  ethernet
[09:47] <jesse> surak, flightgear, libc6dev, libc6
[09:47] <jesse> libgcc1
[09:47] <Surak> jesse: do not remove libc6
[09:47] <ponk> it syas its supported over here http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/
[09:47] <ssam> jesse, those are important system files
[09:47] <jesse> surak, ok
[09:47] <brandonz> okay postfix under breezy will just not accept the home_mailbox directive.
[09:47] <brandonz> this is frustrating.
[09:47] <Surak> jesse: nor libgcc1
[09:47] <Surak> then try again
[09:48] <thrush> ponk: cant imagine who would make a dsl modem with only usb connection.
[09:48] <ssam> jesse, you dont want to remove libc stuff
[09:48] <jesse> surak, Ok
[09:48] <EvilDin> does maybe anone know how can root start thing as some other user
[09:48] <ponk> well, it costs like 2$ so...
[09:48] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> any one still use windows at times ?
[09:48] <thrush> ponk: whats model name?
[09:48] <Surak> EvilDin: man sudo
[09:48] <ssam> jesse, is flightgear a game?
[09:48] <jesse> surak, flightgear, libc6dev, libc6, libstd++6 and locales are all Broken
[09:48] <sunshine82> how do i fix my macromedia flash
[09:49] <jesse> surak, yes
[09:49] <ProN00b> chaosblue, that chipset sounds verry common, in fact i might even have it ^^ you might try configuring your connection than blame it on your hardware...
[09:49] <Surak> sunshine82: is not your flash that's broken.
[09:49] <chaosblue> I tried that, too.
[09:49] <ponk> this is my modem http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/modems.php?modem=33
[09:49] <ssam> EvilDin, su username -c 'command' i think
[09:49] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> how come when i try to play a MP3 in XMMS it says i need a Codec ?:S
[09:49] <EvilDin> tnx
[09:49] <godmatrix> whats up guys
[09:49] <godmatrix> whats going on
[09:49] <ProN00b> ponk, get quality hardware, it will save you serious trouble most of the time
[09:50] <ompaul> !tell ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa about w32codecs
[09:50] <Surak> jesse: download libc6 again, as well as libstd++6. Make synaptic reinstall them.
[09:50] <ponk> well, isnt it a windows like solution? :-)
[09:50] <TerminX> since when are mp3s in xmms covered under w32codecs?
[09:50] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> ty
[09:50] <sunshine82> surak but when i went to google i could hear anything
[09:50] <chaosblue> Basically, eth0 is configured, the router is configured, but they aren't talking to each other.
 no cmq per le immagini devi sentire giorgio http://www.clickevolution.com/surf/join.php?refid=99984506
[09:50] <sunshine82> surak sorry but when i went to google i couldnt hear anything
[09:50] <jesse> surak, yok Ill try
[09:50] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> .!tell ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa about RestrictedFormats
[09:50] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> !tell ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa about RestrictedFormats
[09:50] <ProN00b> xmms is teh outdated people, use bmp !!!
[09:50] <jonny_> what does edubuntu get me that breezy does not have?
[09:51] <Surak> sunshine82: take a look at ubuntuforuns. There were issues with oss and alsa some time ago. Perhaps you changed something for skype to work?
[09:51] <Iam8up> !tell iam8up about RestrictedFormats
[09:51] <GigaClon> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa, you can also say tell me about bla
[09:51] <ssam> jonny_, thin client stuff
[09:51] <GigaClon> !tell me about RestrictedFormats
[09:51] <jonny_> like, it is easier to use?
[09:51] <sunshine82> surak the forum keep timin out
  isnt it a windows like solution? :-)
[09:51] <GigaClon> no
[09:51] <sunshine82> surak what about macromedia flash player
[09:51] <chaosblue> The problem starts during installation - it won't find the DHCP.
[09:52] <jesse> surak, but the problem is when I try to do that, syxnaptic threatens me with the removal of 190 other packages
[09:52] <ssam> GigaClon, what happens if someone has "me" as their nick?
[09:52] <GigaClon> i guess there are SOL
[09:52] <NoUse> jonny_ I think it has some educational software and is designed to be used in a thin client environment
[09:52] <me> try it now
[09:52] <jesse> surak, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80432 is the complete description of my prob if you want to take a look
[09:52] <ProN00b> no, ponk, quality hardware is always good, you can't just go and hack your own drivers (unless the device is really 1337)
[09:52] <Surak> Jesse: then use apt-get.
[09:52] <Surak> use apt-get --download-only (those packageS), and then go to /var/cache/apt/archives and install it with dpkg --force-all -i
[09:52] <ProN00b> and network over usb is just....
[09:53] <KurtKraut> jonny_, try asking that on #edubuntu. Their website doesnt give too much data about what comes with edubuntu.
[09:53] <ssam> !tell me about RestrictedFormats
[09:53] <soxfun> hi
[09:53] <Fred> hey, is there a shell command to reverse-lookup an IP to see what hostname it resolves to?
[09:53] <Surak> jesse: use apt-get --download-only (those packageS), and then go to /var/cache/apt/archives and install it with dpkg --force-all -i
[09:53] <soxfun> can anyone tell me how to search files in ubuntu?
[09:53] <Iam8up> Fred - network-tools.com
[09:53] <KurtKraut> Fred, yes... nslookup IP
[09:53] <soxfun> I want to know where de mldonkey kernel is :D
[09:53] <Fred> thanks KurtKraut :D
[09:53] <ponk> well, I dont have money to get new modem... I'm only in high school...
[09:53] <Surak> jesse: if event that does not work, download the files manually and dpkg --force-all -i on them :-)
[09:53] <ssam> GIgaClon, did you get sent anything?
[09:53] <GIgaClon> no
[09:53] <GIgaClon> did you
[09:53] <richie_> I tried to install nividia-glx with my Geforce 3 MX but it crashed XOrg at startup?
[09:53] <ssam> yes
[09:54] <ProN00b> mx is for loosers ^^
[09:54] <richie_> well
[09:54] <jonny_> OK thank you, oh yeah, I forget to bookmark the restrictedformats wiki, could somebody please give it to me?
[09:54] <richie_> im poor at the moment
[09:54] <richie_> :P
[09:54] <sunshine82> does anyone know how i can get the info that in uname -a to match my linux header
[09:54] <ProN00b> mx is the looser indicator, richie_
[09:54] <ponk> but it says this modem is supported... and some ppl actualy got him to work :-/
[09:54] <jesse> surak, ok Ill try thanks
[09:54] <GIgaClon> jonny_, search for it
[09:54] <soxfun> no help? :)
[09:54] <jonny_> ok
[09:54] <cevizoglu> mx what?
[09:54] <ProN00b> you should have bought a real gf2 instead of a 3mx, thad been better, richie_
[09:54] <budluva> geforce mx
[09:54] <richie_> Its old anyway
[09:55] <ProN00b> ofc
[09:55] <budluva> lol gf3mx pfffff...
[09:55] <budluva> beat that :P
[09:55] <richie_> but i want at least a decent resoloution
[09:55] <ProN00b> TNT2 > all !
[09:55] <Surak> anyway, I just love my voodoo4
[09:55] <ProN00b> !!!
[09:55] <ubotu> hmm... ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[09:55] <richie_> like 1024x768
[09:55] <loeki> cam someone help me here?
[09:55] <budluva> your gf3 can handle 1024x768 no prob, my tnt2 can fine :P
[09:55] <Amaranth> gf4 with 128MB is enough for me
[09:56] <cevizoglu> lol, nice one ubotu
[09:56] <Amaranth> ubotu: bad bot
[09:56] <ubotu> no, you'red a bad person amaranth!
[09:56] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> !tell ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa about MPEG
[09:56] <loeki> i have a problem to see the windows partitions under linux
[09:56] <Amaranth> ubotu: botsnack
[09:56] <ubotu> thanks amaranth :)
[09:56] <ssam> grrr ubuntuforum.org is in a mood with me :-( it wont let me on
[09:56] <loeki> can someone help me
[09:56] <ssam> jonny_,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:56] <budluva> loeki you want to mount your windows partition?
[09:56] <Amaranth> ssam: It seems to be having problems, I coulnd't get on earlier.
[09:57] <loeki> yes
[09:57] <ProN00b> gf4 isn't enough for me, neways, does anyone know how to enable fastwrite and all that shit ? (i got a second pci ati card in this box)
[09:57] <Surak> loeki: Take a look at ubuntu sites. Specially if they're NTFS.
[09:57] <Amaranth> ProN00b: No swearing, please.
[09:57] <loeki> under my windows i have 2 partitions
[09:57] <ssam> Amaranth, i wondered how it could just me be
[09:57] <loeki> one where my windows is
[09:57] <loeki> and the other one with media
[09:57] <budluva> loeki mount -t ntfs -o loop /dev/HDX /where/ever/you/want/mounted
[09:57] <mauricio> Hi, I want to use the music player, but it asks me for a url to play... so you know any of soft music (rock or Spanish)?
[09:57] <Amaranth> hmm, my d is running away
[09:57] <loeki> and i can't get mij second partition to see under linux
[09:57] <richie_> Shall I compile the nvidia drivers if the binary dont work?
[09:58] <Amaranth> richie_: why doesn't the package work?
[09:58] <budluva> loeki read above, i just showed you, /dev/HDX is your windows partition
[09:58] <richie_> No idea
[09:58] <ProN00b> maybe check Why it doesn't work, richie_
[09:58] <richie_> Can you help me do that please?
[09:58] <ProN00b> it works for other people, ya know, richie_
[09:58] <wobster> hi. which software could I use to down-sample mp3s to constant 128kb/s? blade-enc is missing somehow. are there alternatives?
[09:58] <wotnarg> mauricio: What player are you speaking of?
[09:58] <sunshine82> surak is there no way of fixin macromedia so it could work in abc website
[09:58] <richie_> Yeh im just unlucky
[09:58] <jesse> surak, what is the exact command for apt-get download only ? I got "Invalid operation libc6 " as an error
[09:58] <Surak> sunshine82: no idea.
[09:58] <ProN00b> check Xorg.log, richie_, in /var/log/
[09:58] <richie_> thanks
[09:58] <Surak> jessE: apt-get --download-only
[09:58] <dell500> is there a concrete howto for 3d accel with a ATI 9600XT?
[09:59] <Amaranth> sunshine82: We have no control over the flash player, it's up to macromedia to fix it.
[09:59] <ProN00b> after a failed xorg start from rescue or something, richie_
[09:59] <Amaranth> sunshine82: This is why closed-source software is bad. ;)
[09:59] <Surak> dell500: they call those boards r300 or something like that. you need a proprietary driver for now.
[09:59] <chuso> hi!
[09:59] <Amaranth> dell500: You need the fglrx package
[09:59] <soxfun> How can I find files in ubuntu?
[09:59] <mauricio> ???
[09:59] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> is there a better IRC client then Xchat for linux
[09:59] <soxfun> well, search for files
[09:59] <chuso> please, does anybody get vmware works on ubuntu breezy?
[10:00] <haselden> soxfun > go to places > search for files
[10:00] <Amaranth> !info xorg-driver-xglrx
[10:00] <TerminX> vmware works fine
[10:00] <richie_> Whats wrong with xchat?
[10:00] <dell500> Amaranth, isn't that  really buggy?
[10:00] <Surak> soxfun: there's a places - search
[10:00] <haselden> or do a 'man find' from the term window
[10:00] <Amaranth> dell500: install the xorg-driver-xglrx
[10:00] <jonny_> RestrictedFormats commands do not work for me
[10:00] <dell500> Amaranth, that's all?
[10:00] <Amaranth> dell500: it's ati's closed-source driver, so probably
[10:00] <Amaranth> dell500: yep
[10:00] <chuso> TerminX: i couldnt make it works on my lapton and on my pc too
[10:00] <wotnarg> jonny_: Did you enable restricted in sources.list?
[10:00] <jesse> ++6
[10:00] <soxfun> but it doesn't find me anything!
[10:00] <Amaranth> dell500: ack, it's xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:00] <jonny_> no, is that in the wicki?
[10:00] <dell500> ok, i'll try it
[10:01] <dell500> last time i did it on hoary it kinda screwed up
[10:01] <KurtKraut> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa, if you are trying to find a software, go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and them type 'IRC'. See what you get. May be you can find something interesing between the results. Most them won't feet for you.
[10:01] <soxfun> I want to know where MLNET is...
[10:01] <wotnarg> jonny_: Not sure, but you might need to depending on what your trying to do.
[10:01] <Amaranth> dell500: basically it's that or nothing for any ATI card newer than Radeon 9250
[10:01] <jonny_> flash and java instilation
[10:01] <Amaranth> dell500: there are people working on open source drivers for your card but they are a bit iffy right now
[10:01] <jonny_> installation*
[10:02] <dell500> Amaranth, wow, i didn't know it was that easy, i was following these other howtos that made it so difficult
[10:02] <dell500> ya
[10:02] <wotnarg> jonny_: gimme a link to the page your having trouble with?
[10:02] <Surak> Amaranth: Did I say correctly: are those the r300?
[10:02] <jonny_> ok, hold on
[10:02] <Amaranth> Surak: yeah, the 9600 is an r300
[10:02] <Amaranth> Surak: or r310 or something, basically the same thing
[10:03] <Surak> yes
[10:03] <jonny_> http://www.wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:03] <corincole> hey all
[10:03] <mauricio> wotnarg, applications>sound & video>music player
[10:03] <corincole> links http://localhost
[10:03] <soxfun> anyone has configured KMLDONKEY?
[10:03] <wotnarg> jonny_: Ok. what command isnt breaking.
[10:04] <wotnarg> mauricio: If you want to play a local file, the notation is: file:///directory/to/song/song.ogg :)
[10:04] <jonny_> there are 2 so far
[10:04] <wotnarg> jonny_: I mean is breaking in above message ;)
[10:04] <mojo_> howdy all!  I am setting up Ubuntu on a dual boot sys for my friend.  He wants to use NetZero dial-up (since he is too far out for dsl or cable).  NetZero offers .deb files for Linspire.  Will this work on Ubuntu?  Anyone have good exp. w/a dial-up and Ubuntu that compares rate-wise (9.95/mo) with local access no's in middle TN?
[10:04] <richie_> does nividia drivers work with all kernel versions?
[10:05] <corincole> what command-line software is there for opening we pages?
[10:05] <corincole> links, links2 and lynx arent working... unless im using them wrong...
[10:05] <corincole> ?
[10:05] <soxfun> cornicole
[10:05] <LasseL> mojo_, I heard that linspire is partly based on ubuntu now, so there should be a chance
[10:05] <dell500> Amaranth, after installing the xorg-driver-fglrx should I reboot?
[10:05] <soxfun> you can youse w3m
[10:05] <mojo_> LasseL: oh, that sounds promising!
[10:05] <shutdownrunner> corincole: maybe you should apt-get links, links2 or lynx
[10:05] <jonny_> sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[10:06] <corincole> ok
[10:06] <shutdownrunner> corincole:apt-get install of course:D
[10:06] <corincole> brb
[10:06] <LasseL> jonny_, why get an old vm?
[10:06] <corincole> i know that lol
[10:06] <soxfun> w3m www.webpage.whatever
[10:06] <jonny_> what is a new one?
[10:06] <chuso> nobody here got problems installing vmware on ubuntu freezy?
[10:06] <chuso> s/freezy/breezy
[10:06] <LasseL> hehe
[10:06] <soxfun> jeje
[10:07] <jonny_> is that the right command?
[10:07] <soxfun> no  problems
[10:07] <wotnarg> brrr... that typo is cold.
[10:07] <LasseL> !java
[10:07] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[10:07] <peritus> 21:56:26 <firstaid`nypon> ..
[10:07] <soxfun> java sucks
[10:07] <LasseL> no sun sucks
[10:07] <soxfun> yes..... :)
[10:07] <wotnarg> jonny_: You need to enable multiverse. Do you know how to enable repositories?
[10:08] <Lars_G> Hi all.
[10:08] <jonny_> no, but I know how to get to the repositories
[10:08] <jonny_> im there
[10:08] <Lars_G> Question, in a debian/ubuntu source package, what file is the one that defines the options that will be passed to configure?
[10:08] <soxfun> jonny: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:08] <jonny_> on command line?
[10:09] <soxfun> and then you put multiverse where you can see universe
[10:09] <D1> how is abiword compared to openoffice for basic word processing?
[10:09] <sunshine82> how do i unmute the mic in alsamixer
[10:09] <wotnarg> jonny_: In sources.list? Ok, where you see a line with universe in it, uncomment it if its not already, and add multiverse to the end of the line.
[10:09] <Suepahfly> is there a 'upgrade' option in the install of 5.10 ?
[10:09] <ssam> jonny_, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:09] <ssam> jonny_, its easier
[10:09] <dell500> Amaranth, after installing the xorg-driver-fglrx should I reboot?
[10:09] <jonny_> ok, hold on
[10:09] <Amaranth> dell500: no, just logging out and back in should do it
[10:09] <KurtKraut> Suepahfly, yes, but you should upgrade it installing the new version from scratch.
[10:09] <LasseL> sunshine82, the 'm' key?
[10:09] <Amaranth> dell500: otherwise log out, hit ctrl-alt-backspace, then login
[10:09] <Amaranth> dell500: just do that second one so you're sure you've got it
[10:10] <KurtKraut> Suepahfly, it avoids problems.
[10:10] <soxfun> it's not easier... it's slower... :)
[10:10] <shutdownrunner> D1: abiword is much better. loads fast and has all the necessary features
[10:11] <bam_> ok how do I install kde-desktop
[10:11] <bam_> rather un-install
[10:11] <Suepahfly> KurtKraut: so you are basicly telling me i have to spend another 2 days building, configing every thing after i install 5.10?
[10:11] <D1> I'm thinking of switching since I do light word processing
[10:11] <koyoda> hello all, I wanted to ask if anybody could give me a link of an ubuntu repository?
[10:11] <jonny_> what do you mean by uncomment
[10:11] <wotnarg> bam_: apt-get remove/install kubuntu-desktop < try that
[10:11] <wotnarg> jonny_: If the like starts  with a #, remove it
[10:11] <iiiears> !repositories
[10:11] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[10:11] <bam_> cool
[10:11] <wotnarg> jonny_: *line
[10:11] <jonny_> ok
[10:11] <shutdownrunner> D1: just install abiword apart from openoffice,test it and enjoy
[10:12] <sunshine82> lassel i still cant hear myself
[10:12] <iiiears> koyoda -  ^^^
[10:12] <rikva> Is it recommended to use ReiserFS as filesystem for / and /home (at a new install)?
[10:12] <sunshine82> lassel my mic was workin before i dont know what to do
[10:12] <ssam> rikva, no
[10:12] <wotnarg> rikva: Just use ext3
[10:12] <rikva> why?
[10:12] <jonny_> instead of universe, multiverse
[10:12] <jonny_> ?
[10:12] <mauricio> wotnarg, the link is not working
[10:13] <ssam> rikva, they are generaly not considered as stable as ext3
[10:13] <wotnarg> jonny_: No, add multiverse, not replace
[10:13] <wotnarg> mauricio: What do you mean?
[10:13] <rikva> ok, thanks
[10:13] <jonny_> ok
[10:13] <mauricio> wotnarg, it didn't open
[10:13] <ssam> rikva, and its only slightly faster under a few conditions
[10:13] <wotnarg> mauricio: Did you directly copy the link I showed you?
[10:14] <jonny_> do I need to uncomment the following linus like it says?
[10:14] <mauricio> yes
[10:14] <jonny_> lines*
[10:14] <wotnarg> jonny_: Yes.
[10:14] <jonny_> ok
[10:14] <wotnarg> mauricio: It was just an example link, you need to replace it with an actual file on your computer. :p
[10:14] <GregAsche> what's wrong with this crontab line?
[10:14] <GregAsche> 60/2 * * * * sudo ntpdate ntp0.mcs.anl.gov
[10:15] <mauricio> wotnarg, ok... thank you
[10:15] <jonny_> ok, now what
[10:15] <sunshine82> somethin weird jsut happen im tryi to sudo something and it say im not in the sudoer file how do i fix this
[10:16] <wotnarg> sunshine82: add your user to the admin group.
[10:16] <pigeonfligh1> How do I get OO.o 2 Docs working?
[10:16] <wotnarg> sunshine82: Which would require a user able to use sudo :p
[10:16] <haselden> sunshine82: are you logged in as a user other than the one you set up your machine with?
[10:16] <wotnarg> pigeonfligh1: What do you mean? Open them?
[10:17] <fraggsta> I'm compiling my own kernel using kernel-package since I need to in order to get VMWare running.  The question is, with kernel-package is there any way to package up the Nvidia drivers, rather than installing them manually?
[10:17] <sunshine82> i havent change computer i just did this sudo usermod -Gaudio sunshine
[10:18] <sunshine82> how do i get mmyself back out
[10:18] <pigeonfligh1> wotnarg: Yes
[10:18] <Surak> fraggstta: you really mean kernel-package or linux-source?
[10:18] <jonny_> it still does not work!
[10:18] <wotnarg> pigeonfligh1: Do you have openofffice.org2 installed?
[10:18] <jonny_> I get an error when I try
[10:18] <wotnarg> jonny_: in a terminal, do sudo apt-get update
[10:18] <jonny_> ok
[10:19] <pigeonfligh1> wotnarg: I Have them apt-gotted but when I look at help in OO.o2 it says help could not be started
[10:19] <frank23> how do I use fakeroot with alien?
[10:19] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> What App Will play MPG files ?
[10:19] <ssam> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa, xine, mplayer, vlc
[10:19] <Surak> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: totem
[10:19] <fraggsta> Surak: Yes, I really mean kernel-package.  I'm watching it do make-kpkg modules_image kernel_image right now.
[10:19] <wotnarg> pigeonfligh1: What is the error message?
[10:19] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> VLC for Linux?
[10:19] <jonny_> even that does not work!
[10:19] <wotnarg> frank23: Just use sudo, its less hassle :p
[10:19] <sunshine82> any ideas i type this sudo usermod -Gaudio sunshine and now im getin im not in sudoer file how do i get back
[10:20] <wotnarg> jonny_: What error message?
[10:20] <[matrim] > if there is a user that is using irssi via my server, is there is a way that i can send a message over that users irssi session?
[10:20] <fraggsta> Surak: Well, I used a kernel-source package to build with though.  I didn't download my kernel source from kernel.org if that's what you mean.
[10:20] <jonny_> hold on...let me type it
[10:20] <bimberi> sunshine82: that command will remove you from any groups that you don't list (ie. admin).  You'll need to boot into recovery mode and "adduser sunshine admin"
[10:20] <pigeonfligh1> wotnarg: The Help system could not be started
[10:20] <ssam> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa, yes vlc for linux :-)
[10:20] <wotnarg> pigeonfligh1: Does the whole application not work, or just the help option?
[10:20] <frank23> wotnarg: I don't like to use sudo when I don't know exaclty what will happen
[10:21] <wotnarg> frank23: It will generate a .deb package from an .rpm. Nothing else.
[10:21] <pigeonfligh1> wotnarg: Just Help
[10:21] <P8ntKid> Where is the defualt menu file for fluxbox in ubuntu? I think its in some kind of x11 folder.
[10:21] <frank23> wotnarg: the why does it need sudo to do that?
[10:21] <wotnarg> frank23: Frankly, I don't know.
[10:21] <frank23> wotnarg: exactly ;-)
[10:22] <wotnarg> frank23: But its not going to take over your system, or hack you. :p
[10:22] <wotnarg> pigeonfligh1: Hrm. I'm not sure. You can still open the file though, right?
[10:22] <jonny_> E: 'Uncomment' is not known on line 12 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <frank23> wotnarg: I just tried fakeroot alien file.rpm and it seems to be working
[10:22] <pigeonfligh1> wotnarg: Which file?
[10:23] <wotnarg> jonny_: You actually typed uncomment in the file?
[10:23] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> if im on Ubuntu 5.10 do i want the .Deb vlc file
[10:23] <dell500> how do  you check to see if fglrx is working? like fglrx-gears/
[10:23] <wotnarg> frank23: Thats good then :)
[10:23] <pigeonfligh1> wotnarg: When I looked the OO.o docs were not installed so I apt-got them
[10:23] <pigeonfligh1> Restarted OO.o Restarted Ubuntu Restarted the Machine
[10:23] <jonny_> no
[10:23] <wotnarg> pigeonfligh1: oh, I misunderstood the original question. I thought you ment you couldn't open a .odt file :p
[10:23] <frank23> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: intsall vlc with synaptic. not from a random deb you download
[10:23] <pigeonfligh1> Still getting the same error
[10:23] <pigeonfligh1> :-)
[10:24] <pigeonfligh1> wotnarg: great being on the same page ;-)
[10:24] <dell500> Amaranth, how do you  check to see if fglrx works?
[10:24] <wotnarg> jonny_: paste your sources.list file in paste.ubuntu.org
[10:24] <Amaranth> dell500: try running a game
[10:24] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> so VLC is already on the PC i just need to install it ?
[10:24] <jonny_> I typed " sudo apt-get update
[10:24] <dell500> Amaranth,  like?
[10:24] <jonny_> ok
[10:25] <hedonick> dell500: or run a opengl based xscreensaver (some can be set up to show fps as well)
[10:25] <wotnarg> pigeonfligh1: I can't really help you then, sorry :/
[10:25] <frank23> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: synaptic will download from the internet for you. You have to enable universe in synaptic though
[10:25] <jonny_> paste.ubuntu.org is invalid?!?!?
[10:25] <frank23> !tell ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa about sources
[10:26] <wotnarg> jonny_: paste.ubuntu.us
[10:26] <pigeonfligh1> wotnarg: Cool Who can?
[10:26] <[Phaedrus] > hello y'all
[10:26] <jonny_> ok
[10:26] <wotnarg> pigeonfligh1: Ask again in the channel? *shrug*
[10:26] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> what is a Universe ?
[10:26] <wotnarg> pigeonfligh1: Try #openoffice.org
[10:26] <pigeonfligh1> How do I get OO.o 2 Docs working?
[10:26] <bimberi> pigeonfligh1: iirc, you have to install openoffice.org-help-en (or the like) to activate help inOOo
[10:26] <pigeonfligh1> They are a tad silent :)
[10:26] <metalsand> besides apt-get update, what are the other cmds that update Ubuntu?
[10:26] <frank23> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: look at the link ubotu sent you
[10:26] <pigeonfligh1> bimberi: What if I have already?
[10:26] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> k
[10:27] <haselden> metalsand apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:27] <wotnarg> metalsand: apt-get upgrade brings the packages up to date.
[10:27] <pigeonfligh1> metalsand: apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:27] <frank23> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: universe is a repository for synaptic to use to get more programs
[10:27] <bimberi> pigeonfligh1: then that's not the problem
[10:27] <metalsand> Ah, thanks much :D
[10:27] <pigeonfligh1> Oh whats gam_server?
[10:27] <wotnarg> jonny_: You do that? Then paste the address of the page in here.
[10:27] <[Phaedrus] > i have a question, a little divergent from Ubuntu though: Do Wifi Cards work with Wimax?
[10:27] <dell500> ya, it doesn't seem to be working... do i need to change the driver in xorg.conf to fglrx?
[10:28] <patrickj> http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8460/ubuntuwall17ii.png
[10:28] <jonny_> that takes me to domail.discount24.com or something!
[10:28] <fraggsta> pigeonfligh1: I don't know but every now and then it goes psycho and takes up 99% CPU time on my machine.  You can safely kill it, it seems.
[10:28] <patrickj> my contribution to the ubuntu project :P
[10:28] <jonny_> domain*
[10:28] <pigeonfligh1> fraggsta: You too?
[10:28] <thrush> !paste
[10:28] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:28] <wotnarg> jonny_: heh, see ubotus message.
[10:28] <thrush> jonny_: ^ try that one
[10:28] <fraggsta> pigeonfligh1: well it used to, I haven't seen it do that since upgrading to breezy though
[10:29] <wotnarg> sheesh... 2 bad paste urls in a row. I need to learn my pastebin urls better :p
[10:29] <jonny_> wich one?
[10:29] <jonny_> nevermind
[10:29] <bimberi> pigeonfligh1: try running oowriter2 from a terminal and seeing if an error pops up when you access the help
[10:29] <nubuntu> I installed VLC media player, and it works fine, BUT I dont get any sound. Unable to fix it. Help here?
[10:30] <eliphas_> evening
[10:30] <sunshine82> im tryin to test my alsa and im gettin this error ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream
[10:30] <sunshine82>  what doe sit mean and how do i fisx thisn
[10:30] <mojo_> Hi again.  my friend is shy of signing up with NetZero w/o being *sure* the .debs for linspire will work on Ubuntu.  Anyone on high-speed dial-up with *ANY* provider that *IS* working with Ubuntu 100%??  I realize vanilla dialup will work almost universally, but I mean with an accellerator.  Any takers?
[10:30] <Suepahfly> how smart is to do pat-get dist-upgrade with bdager repo's on a hoary system?
[10:30] <Suepahfly> apt*
[10:30] <robbkidd> Anyone else getting bzip2 integrity errors on Universe's Packages.gz?
[10:30] <patrickj> who here likes me wallpapa?
[10:30] <eliphas_> how can I make my term to show all the directories and hidden files when I type ls ?
[10:31] <eliphas_> or dir
[10:31] <robbkidd> eliphas: ls -a
[10:31] <eliphas_> oh yes baby
[10:31] <eliphas_> thanks
[10:31] <fraggsta> Suepahfly: Well, that will upgrade it to breezy if that's what you mean..It might break along the way and you may have to "apt-get -f install", or maybe even manually fix dependencies with dpkg.  But it should be possible.
[10:31] <thrush> nubuntu: do you have any sound? like when gnome starts?
[10:31] <jonny_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3607
[10:31] <nubuntu> thrush, yeah I have xmms working fine
[10:31] <[Phaedrus] > Do Wifi Cards work with Wimax?
[10:31] <jonny_> BTW im running breezy if that matters
[10:31] <wotnarg> mojo_: High speed dialup is largely marketing crap, just fyi :p
[10:32] <D1> wow
[10:32] <sunshine82> does anyone know about alsa
[10:32] <D1> abiword is smoooooooooth
[10:32] <eventualbuddha> i'm having a problem with one of my servers. i removed the network cable and then put it back in, and now i can't access the internet. there were other (firewall) changes too, but i don't think that affected it. any ideas?
[10:32] <Amaranth> ompaul: come back for a minute please
[10:32] <qt2> Is there a program like "virtual audio cables" for linux? Virtual audio cables allows you to take the audio output from one program, and use it as the input for another program, for example, form skype, to a recording program.
[10:32] <[Phaedrus] > wotnarg: high speed dialup eh?
[10:32] <ompaul> Amaranth, k
[10:32] <Suepahfly> well i will find out after 1 hour downing an installing :)
[10:32] <Surak> eventualbuddha - mii-tool
[10:32] <shutdownrunner> Suepahfly: just install breezy. I have only got hoary install cd. I install hoary then upgrade to breezy and everything works fine
[10:32] <KurtKraut> eventualbuddha, have you tried to undo the last firewall changes ?
[10:32] <tom__> Sys_Error: SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual what does this mean and how can i fix it?
[10:32] <wotnarg> [Phaedrus] : hrm?
[10:33] <tom__> trying to run quake4
[10:33] <Surak> qt2: like piping the /dev/pcm ?
[10:33] <[Phaedrus] > wotnarg: just curious which fella is using "high speed dialup" as a marketing term
[10:33] <Xenguy> Hi - I have some output I'd like to run by the Developers if possible - a GPG-key error when I attempt to apt-get update...
[10:33] <Xenguy> W: GPG error: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[10:33] <tom__> im installing the different sdl packages but i don't really know what im doing
[10:33] <Xenguy> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:33] <thrush> nubuntu: options in vlc make sure esd is selected for sound
[10:33] <sunshine82> i need to record adn paly alsa but im getin this error ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream
[10:33] <hedonick> qt2: I know one program that kindof does that (not from one program to the other... but it records the output on the sound device)... it's vsound
[10:33] <jonny_> wotnarg, did you get that?
[10:33] <eventualbuddha> KurtKraut: no
[10:33] <wotnarg> [Phaedrus] : Just in general :p You can't accelerate dialup except by compression, cache, etc.
[10:33] <Xenguy> Does anyone know what that output means/implies ?
[10:34] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> VLC is not on the SYS
[10:34] <nubuntu> thrush, ok
[10:34] <qt2> Surak, yeah, pretty much.
[10:34] <wotnarg> jonny_: Get what? Did you post the url?
[10:34] <qt2> hedonick, thanks, i'll look into it.
[10:34] <fraggsta> tom__: try installing libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[10:34] <bimberi> !gpgerr
[10:34] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[10:34] <Suepahfly> shutdownrunner: it took me 2 days installing breezy, so i'm willing to try a shortcut
[10:34] <KurtKraut> eventualbuddha, just try to do that to check if the problem is beeing caused by your last firewall changes. This is the most probable source.
[10:34] <jonny_> yes I will again:
[10:34] <jonny_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3607
[10:34] <qt2> Surak, although, i believe skype on linux uses /dev/dsp for both input and output.
[10:34] <ProN00b> can i somehow open a terminal to my com-port ?
[10:34] <Surak> dsp, sorry
[10:35] <shutdownrunner> Suepahfly: what do you mean by 2 days? downloading or problems with upgrading?
[10:35] <garyc> hey folks
[10:35] <wotnarg> jonny_: add a # before any line that does not start with 'deb'
[10:35] <tom__> do i need to restart or anything after i've installed that library?
[10:35] <nubuntu> thrush, whats esd. Cannot see that one. And Audio output frequncy was set to -1. What?
[10:35] <eventualbuddha> KurtKraut: k, will try back in a bit
[10:35] <garyc> does anyone have a minute to check my ftp server
[10:35] <jonny_> ok
[10:35] <bimberi> ProN00b: a program like minicom can do that
[10:35] <Suepahfly> shutdownrunner: installing, building, finding the required libs, and so on
[10:35] <KurtKraut> garyc, if it accepts connection ? Just say the addres or Ip and the port.
[10:36] <fraggsta> tom__: no, is it still crashing?
[10:36] <tom__> Sys_Error: SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual same thing
[10:36] <whiskas> Hello.
[10:36] <Xenguy> ftpmaster@ubuntu.com  <-- would this person happen to be around by any chance ?
[10:36] <fraggsta> tom__: well, is your 3D card set up properly?
[10:37] <bimberi> ubotu tell Xenguy about gpgerr
[10:37] <tom__> i don't know i've left it how it was when i installed ubuntu
[10:37] <whiskas> Hey folks, can I jump in with a Radeon problem, as well?
[10:37] <wotnarg> garyc: I will if no one else.
[10:37] <tom__> do i need to do other things?
[10:37] <garyc> wotnarg, , ip=68.90.183.219   user=agora  pass=agoramin
[10:37] <fraggsta> tom__: is it an ATi or Nvidia?
[10:37] <tom__> ati
[10:37] <tom__> 9800pro
[10:37] <chaosblue> GREAT.  Now it's not seeing eth0 at all.  >_<
[10:37] <whiskas> 3D acceleration works like a charm, XVideo same, but 2D is so damn slooooow.
[10:37] <whiskas> Anyone experiencing this?
[10:38] <whiskas> I've tried both the OS driver and fglrx.
[10:38] <GloX> ok, I solved my monitor problem by adding vga=771 to the boot parameters, is there anything I should do to get it work when I don't use the cd too ?
[10:38] <sunshine82> when i arecord test.wav i get this error ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream
[10:38] <sunshine82>  what does it mean
[10:38] <fraggsta> tom__: I think this should solve it..."sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`" - you'll need to reboot after doing that
[10:38] <garyc> wotnarg, tell me if you see other folders or jus your home folder
[10:38] <eventualbuddha> KurtKraut: it was my stupidity: i plugged the cable into the wrong ethernet port :)
[10:38] <thrush> nubuntu: sorry not on linux box right now.  maybe someone else can help you out configuring vlc
[10:38] <shutdownrunner> Suepahlfy: building? in breezy? what for? why? it installs without any major glitches
[10:38] <KurtKraut> eventualbuddha, it may happen to everyone ;D
[10:38] <ProN00b> bimberi, ok, can you give me an example how the command would look like ?
[10:39] <crimsun> nubuntu: please install vlc-plugin-alsa
[10:39] <Xenguy> bimberi: tx - I have another question.  I have a friend who's chkrootkit reported a problem with '/usr/bin/find'.  We compared md5sums and mine doesn't match his, yet we are both running Breezy.  Any idea how this can be?
[10:39] <bimberi> ProN00b: er, "minicom" (once it's installed) - but then CTRL-A Z to get help on configuration
[10:39] <sunshine82> ahhh
[10:40] <fraggsta> Xenguy: maybe one of you upgraded to a newer version?
[10:40] <nubuntu> crimsun, ok
[10:40] <wotnarg> garyc: Nothing in it right now
[10:40] <crimsun> nubuntu: then in the preferences, check advanced options then choose alsa for the audio driver
[10:40] <ProN00b> bimberi, its just that it looks kinda hard...
[10:40] <jonny_> wotnarg: can you just post ehat it should be and ill copy that?
[10:40] <garyc> wotnarg, are you in
[10:40] <jonny_> it wont let me type anything!
[10:40] <Xenguy> fraggsta: I'm just not sure how that can happen if we are both updated to Breezy
[10:40] <sunshine82> where do i go to get help with alsa
[10:40] <wotnarg> jonny_: Ok.
[10:40] <garyc> wotnarg, it is just empty
[10:40] <wotnarg> garyc: Yes.
[10:41] <bimberi> Xenguy: someone reported that the other day too (can't recall the nick)
[10:41] <ui> how do i insstall this? :   install.jar
[10:41] <fraggsta> Xenguy: if one of you has done apt-get upgrade recently and the other hasn't, and it upgraded whatever package has find in it
[10:41] <tom__> fraggsta how do i execute that command when i press enter it just drops down a line
[10:41] <garyc> wotnarg, can you do an up dir to parent or are you locked in that folder
[10:41] <Xenguy> bimberi: Do you think it is anything to be concerned about?
[10:41] <fraggsta> tom__: copy and paste it, it works fine here
[10:42] <wotnarg> jonny_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3608
[10:42] <jonny_> thx
[10:42] <bimberi> Xenguy: i can't say no, but don't know for sure sorry
[10:42] <wotnarg> garyc: Im locked in konq at least.
[10:42] <tom__> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`" is this correct am i missing anytthing off it?
[10:42] <Xenguy> bimberi: tx for the feedback
[10:42] <jonny_> it wont let me use any of the letters or numbers in that list! I can ctrl+a but not any letters or even backspace!
[10:42] <bimberi> Xenguy: yw
[10:42] <fraggsta> tom__: yes, tehre shouldn't be any " characters in it :)
[10:43] <garyc> wotnarg, do you mind doing a makdir just to see if you can creat a folder  -- maybe put something there
[10:43] <nubuntu> crimsun, is that vlc-preferences-advanced-other-channel mixer?
[10:43] <wotnarg> garyc: Ok.
[10:43] <Gorgapor> I've been having problems getting Eclipse to work in ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[10:43] <bimberi> ProN00b: have a play with it, <CTRL>A O will get you to the configuration stuff
[10:43] <crimsun> nubuntu: no, should be first option
[10:43] <kingtight> is the a way to update to 5.10 from 5.04 with out the lost of data?
[10:43] <fraggsta> tom__: should just be sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[10:43] <nubuntu> ok
[10:44] <thrush> kingtight: yes but dont do it
[10:44] <wotnarg> garyc: Ok, I make a folder and a file.
[10:44] <kingtight> y is that?
[10:44] <tom__> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386 is already the newest version.
[10:44] <tom__> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:44] <tom__> that means that it had already been done?
[10:44] <thrush> kingtight: u could lose data
[10:45] <thrush> kingtight: ;)
[10:45] <nubuntu> crimsun, well there is no first option :|
[10:45] <kingtight> that sucks worked so hard to install all the stuff i wanted on this
[10:45] <wotnarg> garyc: Bleh, pardon my grammar, I'm tired :p Anything else I should do?
[10:45] <jcharette> hi everyone, trying out Ubuntu.  Usually use Gentoo or fedora
[10:45] <jonny_> wotnarg, it wont let me backspace or anything!
[10:45] <wotnarg> jonny_: Where?
[10:45] <qt2> hedonick, ah, see, that is only half a solution for me, as it only records the output half(the other caler) and not the input half(the stuff coming from my mic)...
[10:46] <jonny_> in sources.list
[10:46] <crimsun> nubuntu: sure there is. It's the top one for Audio
[10:46] <bimberi> hi jcharette
[10:46] <fraggsta> tom__: there should be a page in the Ubuntu guide somewhere on what to do once the driver is installed, I just can't find it..
[10:46] <budluva> using dvdshrink to copy a dvd to fit on a 4.7gig disk, just compresses the movie right? is the compression going to screw with the resolution? like will i be able to see the difference between the original and the backup?
[10:46] <tom__> ok ill take a look is that on the wiki page?
[10:46] <sunshine82> please help me somebody what does this mean ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream
[10:46] <sunshine82>  howdf o i get the other one that record and play
[10:46] <fraggsta> tom__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:46] <thrush> kingtight: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change hoary to breezy then apt-get update then distupgrade
[10:46] <jonny_> do you know what the problem is?
[10:47] <nubuntu> crimsun, enable audio I see... and audio output volume
[10:47] <robbkidd> Ookay. The US package archive is killing me with bzip errors and bad headers.
[10:47] <garyc> wotnarg, hey I see the test folder   thanks  -  I am happy with that
[10:47] <jcharette> I take it this is the best way to get support?
[10:47] <fraggsta> tom__: only where it says /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 you should use /etc/X11/xorg.conf instead
[10:47] <wotnarg> garyc: Ok ,I added a random image file too, so as far as i can tell, everything works. Anything else, or should I log out?
[10:47] <tom__> so it stills applies to breezy?
[10:47] <garyc> wotnarg, I had to log in as agora to view it,  that what took me so long
[10:48] <wotnarg> garyc: ah, I see.
[10:48] <sunshine82> just tell me where i can go fro help then
[10:48] <jonny_> should I restart my computer?
[10:48] <_native_> paging DR. Watson
[10:48] <wotnarg> garyc: err... doesn't root have access to the ftp filesystem?
[10:48] <fraggsta> tom__: well breezy uses X.Org, and I can't see anything in there that would be different in Breezy
[10:48] <wotnarg> garyc: Or did you not bother
[10:48] <Gorgapor> i've been having some trouble installing eclipse in ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[10:48] <bimberi> jcharette: sometimes it is :) but there's also forums (ubuntuforums.org) and a mailing list (lists.ubuntu.com)
[10:48] <jcharette> cool, thanks bimberi
[10:48] <garyc> wotnarg, I wanted to jail the user in his own folder
[10:48] <bimberi> jcharette: yw :)
[10:49] <wotnarg> garyc: *nod* Ok, I'm logged out. Enjoy.
[10:49] <hyperz> hello , how do i run/install as a superuser plzz ??
[10:49] <jonny_> wotnarg,should I
[10:49] <Discipulus> sudo
[10:49] <garyc> wotnarg, It looks like it works
[10:49] <wotnarg> hyperz: sudo command
[10:49] <fraggsta> damn it takes ages to compile a kernel now..the default is to have just about EVERYTHING as a module.. :|
[10:49] <mindmedic> hyperz, look in the wiki... search for sudo
[10:50] <tom__> is hoary a previous version of ubuntu?
[10:50] <hyperz> euhh , what is wiki ? im kinda new in linux :s
[10:50] <iiiears> fraggsta - I had to back up my first try at compiling a kernel to DVD!!!  - lol
[10:50] <jonny_> tom yes
[10:50] <bimberi> tom__: yes (5.04)
[10:50] <iiiears> j/k
[10:50] <sunshine82>  what does this mean ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream
[10:50] <sunshine82> when i arecord test.wav i get this error ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream
[10:50] <kingtight> ok now how do i do that once more?
[10:50] <garyc> wotnarg, I am not using anonymous ftp.  I just want specific users to have a web folder to share data and stuff
[10:51] <haselden> hyperz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[10:51] <sunshine82> how do i change thisa
[10:51] <wotnarg> garyc: I figured it wasnt anonymous when I had to log in :p
[10:51] <richie_> what repro is build-essensial in?
[10:51] <thrush> richie_: should be universe
[10:51] <jonny_> WOTNARG: WHAT DO i DO?
[10:52] <rexykik> can anyone link me to the ubuntu thin client guide?
[10:52] <rexykik> jonny_, please turn off the caps
[10:52] <garyc> wotnarg, Thank you for the test.  I just now reloaded with 5.10  was on 5.04 til today
[10:52] <iiiears> !thin
[10:52] <ubotu> iiiears: What?
[10:52] <wotnarg> jonny_: paste the file from the link to your sources.list, then apt-get update
[10:52] <iiiears> !thinclient
[10:52] <ubotu> Wish i knew, iiiears
[10:52] <Sturmkraehe> howdy
[10:52] <wotnarg> garyc: No problem. Adios.
[10:52] <jonny_> oh! sorry, I did not realize!
[10:52] <pigeonfligh1> Hooray Dapper :)
[10:52] <hyperz> thx haselden , ill have a look there :)
[10:53] <pigeonfligh1> !dhcp
[10:53] <ubotu> pigeonfligh1: Wish i knew
[10:53] <garyc> wotnarg, buy the way, is it possible to upgrade 5.04 to 5.1 without reloading
[10:53] <bimberi> kingtight: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:53] <pigeonfligh1> !openoffice
[10:53] <ubotu> pigeonfligh1: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:53] <jonny_> I can not delete or type anything in my sources.list, though
[10:53] <nalioth_zZz> jonny_: use sudo
[10:53] <iiiears> "Thin is in!"     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto
[10:53] <pigeonfligh1> jonny_: open it with sudo
[10:54] <bur[n] er> !breezyupgrade
[10:54] <rexykik> iiiears, thanks a bunch
[10:54] <ubotu> it has been said that breezyupgrade is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:54] <jonny_> err...sudo /etc/apy/sources.list?
[10:54] <bur[n] er> there you go garyc
[10:54] <iiiears> !ubotu thin client is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto
[10:54] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[10:54] <jonny_> *apt?
[10:54] <garyc> bimberi, was that my answer
[10:54] <bur[n] er> iiiears: u can do that in a private message ;)
[10:54] <bur[n] er> anyone tried compiling rhythmbox 0.9.1 yet??
[10:54] <garyc> bimberi, buy the way, is it possible to upgrade 5.04 to 5.1 without reloading
[10:54] <wotnarg> garyc: I didn't bother, but yes. It can be error-ridden though
[10:55] <jonny_> pigeonflight: sudo /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:55] <Zealot87> how do i ping a website?
[10:55] <dell500> does anyone know how to get gallery to reinstall?
[10:55] <bimberi> garyc: possibly, but i don't know what you mean by reloading. reinstalling?
[10:55] <tarheelcoxn> Zealot87: man ping
[10:55] <cevizoglu> bur[n] er, what do you mean yet?  I installed it, no reason to compile
[10:55] <hedonick> Zealot87: not all websites responds to pings though
[10:55] <bur[n] er> cevizoglu: .9.1??  from where?
[10:56] <jonny_> how do i open sources.list wit sudo?
[10:56] <Zealot87> then after man ping, do i enter the website?
[10:56] <_native_> sudo nano sources.list
[10:56] <bur[n] er> cevizoglu: .9 is in breezy... .9.1 was just released recently
[10:56] <bimberi> garyc: you don't have to reinstall, but you must reload repositories as part of the process
[10:56] <thrush> jonny_: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:56] <fraggsta> Zealot87: no, "man ping" is THE MANUAL, which will tell you how to use it.
[10:56] <sunshine82> anyone free to help me yet
[10:56] <cevizoglu> bur[n] er, i c
[10:57] <tom__> fraggsta so im just changing the driver "ati" part to fglrx?
[10:57] <fraggsta> tom__: yup
[10:57] <garyc> bimberi, yes I just reinstalled with a full wipe and re-partition today and I am back up to speed
[10:57] <bimberi> garyc: k :)
[10:57] <Fraiser> hello
[10:57] <kingtight> hello Fraiser
[10:57] <cevizoglu> bur[n] er, why, is there a nicer feature in .9.1?
[10:57] <garyc> bimberi, thought I might have done it wrong -  that the upgrade is better
[10:58] <bur[n] er> cevizoglu: several :)
[10:58] <Zealot87> uhh i still dont get how to use ping
[10:58] <jonny_> still there...wotnarg?
[10:58] <Zealot87> i have a website, and i want to ping it, what would i enter
[10:58] <org> I made a big problem.
[10:58] <_native_> man ping
[10:58] <wotnarg> jonny_: Yes.
[10:58] <bimberi> garyc: not at all, if a clean install is possible it's usually the best option :)
[10:58] <org> My problem was, that i gave my young brother a connection from my internet
[10:58] <org> and now he's making my internet slow, damn.
[10:58] <_native_> sudo ping -c5 url
[10:58] <garyc> bimberi, wotnarg said upgrade is flaky
[10:58] <org> Can't i just limit him?
[10:59] <jonny_> ok, so I did that and "apt-get update" does not work
[10:59] <bimberi> garyc: i can only agree - i've had some problems myself
[10:59] <Zealot87> _native_, that doesnt help me, it just gives a bunch of letters and says that they do all this crazy stuff, no where in the manual does it say, to ping a website, do this:
[10:59] <_native_> yes you can limit him if you have a router
[10:59] <kbrooks> I use mouse numpad emulation under X. At gdm, it is fast, but not in gnome. Why?
[10:59] <_native_> sudo ping -c5 url
[10:59] <wotnarg> garyc: Can be. Or not. it just depends.
[10:59] <sunshine82> when i arecord test.wav i get this error ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream
[10:59] <jonny_> wotnarg  I did that and "apt-get update" does not work
[10:59] <wotnarg> jonny_: What doesnt work?
[10:59] <garyc> bimberi, It took about 2 hours to get back to full speed on the complete re-install
[10:59] <sunshine82> how do i change this
[10:59] <jonny_> an error comes up
[11:00] <wotnarg> jonny_: What error?
[11:00] <hyperz> when i use this -> "sudo -e file eta.run" <-
[11:00] <hyperz> command with sudo i can type a password but when i try to type NO letters apear :'( , what do i do now ??
[11:00] <bimberi> garyc: definitely a good option for you then :)
[11:00] <Stormx2> OK
[11:00] <_native_> Zealot87: sudo ping -c5 website
[11:00] <Stormx2> Im now gonna stay on ubuntu perminantly
[11:00] <wotnarg> hyperz: Its so people cant see your password. Just ignore it
[11:00] <bur[n] er> cevizoglu: check yer msgs
[11:00] <nalioth> hyperz: no characters will appear for your security
[11:00] <hyperz> k
[11:00] <thrush> jonny_: 99% of time when happens to me its because I mistyped a url in sources
[11:00] <Stormx2> It is actually a whole lot better for web dev
[11:00] <garyc> bimberi, bummer though - my cdrw still wont burn - do you remember me working on that?
[11:00] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: gftp is lacking for me :\
[11:01] <Zealot87> _native_, ok thanks
[11:01] <_native_> np
[11:01] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: me too
[11:01] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: But guess what! Places > Connect to server
[11:01] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: other than that small thing, i totally agree
[11:01] <jonny_> see this for errors:http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3610
[11:01] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: Then you can browse FTP in a drag + drop environment
[11:01] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: very true... just not what i'm used to ;)
[11:01] <shutdownrunner> bur[n] er: try tuxcmd
[11:01] <jonny_>  see this for errors: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3610
[11:01] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: gFTP does lack a lot
[11:01] <shutdownrunner> it's not in rep, but you can install it quickly
[11:02] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: But if you do connect to server, it is handled in nautilus, so it is uber-handy
[11:02] <aclonedsheep2>  /join #birdsofprey
[11:02] <garyc> bimberi, cyberdrive cw068d reads fine but wont burn
[11:02] <_native_> well then get coding or requesting features.
[11:02] <_native_> ;-] 
[11:02] <bur[n] er> shutdownrunner: looks like emelfm, gentoo, and all the other mc clones ;)
[11:02] <jonny_> how do you make it red so the oerson your typing to can see it in red?
[11:02] <wotnarg> jonny_: I have to go, other people will help you Im sure.
[11:02] <aclonedsheep2> finally on my universitys vpn/wireless w00t
[11:02] <bimberi> garyc: yeah, i don't have anything startlingly new for you though :/
[11:02] <jonny_> ok
[11:02] <shutdownrunner> bur[n] er:but it works
[11:02] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> How Do I MAP A NETWORK DRIVE?
[11:02] <wotnarg> jonny_: You say thier name in your message.
[11:02] <bur[n] er> shutdownrunner: it does ftp?  screenshots don't show that
[11:02] <haselden> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: places > network servers
[11:02] <Gorgapor> jonny_, if the other person is using X-Chat, you just say their name.
[11:03] <Gorgapor> darn beat me to it
[11:03] <jonny_> oh, is it red when I type to you
[11:03] <jonny_> ?
[11:03] <hyperz> Verifying archive integrity... All good.
[11:03] <hyperz> Uncompressing Enemy Territory 2.55...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
[11:03] <hyperz> It is recommended to install as the super user
[11:03] <hyperz> Please enter the root password or hit enter to continue as is
[11:03] <hyperz> Password:
[11:03] <hyperz> su: Authentication failure
[11:03] <shutdownrunner> bur[n] er: it does. I've tested it
[11:03] <hyperz> Sorry.
[11:03] <hyperz> This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / x86_64
[11:03] <hyperz> (tried to run setup)
[11:03] <hyperz> See http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/ for troubleshooting
[11:03] <hyperz> The setup program seems to have failed on x86_64/glibc-2.0
[11:03] <shutdownrunner> it's almost like total comander
[11:03] <hyperz> See http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/ for troubleshooting
[11:03] <hyperz> what i get now :sss
[11:03] <nalioth> hyperz: please dont paste in here
[11:03] <jonny_> like, does this work, Gorgapor
[11:03] <bur[n] er> blah, quit pasting
[11:03] <hyperz> with good pass (i think)
[11:03] <wotnarg> hyperz: Dont paste in channel, do in #paste or a pastebin
[11:03] <hyperz> sry
[11:03] <Gorgapor> yes, it was red, jonny_
[11:03] <shutdownrunner> I mean functionality
[11:03] <Subliminal> could somebody help me figure out, why since i upgraded to breezy firefox has become really unstable?
[11:03] <jonny_> cool!
[11:03] <bur[n] er> shutdownrunner: but it doesn't do ftp!
[11:04] <_native_> jonny is your question answered
[11:04] <Gorgapor> Subliminal, i've noticed firefox crashing occasionally too
[11:04] <Subliminal> Gorgapor: www.radiotimes.com seems to be a killer for me, every time
[11:04] <Stormx2> Subliminal: Try uninstalling & reinstalling
[11:04] <haselden> Subliminal: i too have noticed issues with firefox
[11:04] <Gorgapor> lemme try it out
[11:04] <haselden> although i'm pretty stable on the new beta
[11:04] <haselden> and it runs faster
[11:04] <Subliminal> Stormx2: just tried that :-/
[11:04] <hyperz> but is there a default pass for super user ?
[11:04] <_native_> jonny: did you sudo apt-get update or just apt-get update?
[11:04] <shutdownrunner> bur[n] er: it does. I don't have it installed now(fresh ubuntu install), but when I tested it 2 weeks ago it had all the ftp support you need
[11:05] <Subliminal> haselden: did you have to compile the source?
[11:05] <wotnarg> hyperz: sudo only works for the user you made when you installed.
[11:05] <jonny_> so I am trying to "apt-get update" and I get these errors:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3610
[11:05] <kbrooks> I use mouse numpad emulation under X. At gdm, it is fast, but not in gnome. Why?
[11:05] <GloX> I selected some wrong resolutions for X during the install, is there any way to add / remove more ?
[11:05] <bur[n] er> shutdownrunner: ftp bookmarking with password saving?
[11:05] <bur[n] er> :)
[11:05] <_native_> jonny: did you sudo apt-get update or just apt-get update?
[11:05] <haselden> Subliminal: no
[11:05] <jonny_> does anyone know what to do?
[11:05] <kbrooks> and hilight me please!
[11:05] <sunshine82> hello
[11:05] <haselden> Subliminal: looking for the link...one sec
[11:05] <kbrooks> I use mouse numpad emulation under X. At gdm, it is fast, but not in gnome. Why?
[11:05] <kbrooks> I use mouse numpad emulation under X. At gdm, it is fast, but not in gnome. Why?
[11:05] <bur[n] er> radiotimes.com seems ok to me
[11:05] <Stormx2> radiotimes.com works fine for me
[11:05] <shutdownrunner> bur[n] er: just give me a moment if you want screenshots
[11:05] <_native_> jonny: did you:  sudo apt-get update or just:  apt-get update?
[11:05] <wotnarg> kbrooks: WM hasn't loaded yet in gdm?
[11:05] <Subliminal> it crashes for me everytime :-/
[11:06] <jonny_> just apt-get update
[11:06] <haselden> Subliminal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:06] <kbrooks> wotnarg: gdm login screen i mean
[11:06] <Subliminal> haselden: thx
[11:06] <Stormx2> use sudo apt-get update
[11:06] <bur[n] er> shutdownrunner: not in ubuntu!!! ;)
[11:06] <_native_> jonny sudo apt-get update thats the answer
[11:06] <qt2> err, does anyone know if soxmix is included in the sox package?
[11:06] <freeloader> does anyone know how I would go about my business to get anjuta to let me use syntax highlighting for other languages?
[11:06] <jonny_> thanks
[11:06] <shutdownrunner> bur[n] er: you're not afraid of ./configure, are you?
[11:06] <to2> good evening
[11:07] <_native_> permimsion denied means you need to use sudo before the command your trying to do.
[11:07] <Stormx2> usually
[11:07] <_native_> usually
[11:07] <Stormx2> ^_^
[11:07] <to2> one short question, please ...
[11:07] <bur[n] er> shutdownrunner: i haven't had good luck with rhythmbox 0.9.1 or amarok 1.3.5 so far today :\
[11:07] <Gorgapor> Subliminal, i just browsed around that site and didn't have any problems
[11:07] <shutdownrunner> bur[n] er:maybe I'll do a package for ubuntu one day
[11:07] <jonny_> how is breezy better than hoary?
[11:07] <kbrooks> wotnarg: well?
[11:07] <shutdownrunner> rhythmbox: works fine for me. I don't like amarok. too kdeish
[11:07] <Stormx2> jonny_: it is faster, more stable, more sexy, and better equiped
[11:07] <jonny_> oh
[11:07] <_native_> well its supported and it has new features
[11:07] <nalioth> bur[n] er: if you would like some note comparison, join #kubuntu-offtopic (i compiled amarok 1.3.5 yesterday)
[11:07] <bur[n] er> kde bugs me, but amarok is the best of breed
[11:07] <wotnarg> kbrooks: yea. The gnome window manager doesn't load until you log into gnome. Thats the only thing I can think of.
[11:08] <_native_> yes
[11:08] <Subliminal> Gorgapor: :-/ are you running the mozilla.org version?
[11:08] <wotnarg> kbrooks: Its probably a setting in accessability.
[11:08] <Gorgapor> Subliminal, no, just firefox 1.0.7
[11:08] <bur[n] er> nalioth: already got a package? ;)  I'll test it out
[11:08] <kbrooks> wotnarg: no, its X
[11:08] <to2> have s.o. here installed the nvidia driver with 'ubuntu-breezy' with the card: GeForce2 Ti ????
[11:08] <Subliminal> Gorgapor: must be something to do with my system
[11:09] <Subliminal> Gorgapor: :-(
[11:09] <to2> no chance to find any solution!
[11:09] <Husio> Hi, i Have problems with conf. my LAN ---> Ubuntu server and 4 others comp.
[11:09] <wotnarg> kbrooks: ?
[11:09] <Subliminal> Gorgapor: whenever i go on it, firefox will get so far and then completely freeze
[11:09] <Husio> some instructions how to configurate? ubuntu 5.10 ;] 
[11:09] <kbrooks> wotnarg: shift + numlock.
[11:10] <wotnarg> kbrooks: What is shift + numlock, the mousekeys?
[11:10] <_native_> Husio could you paste your errors or probs in the http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[11:10] <kbrooks> wotnarg: yeah
[11:11] <kbrooks> wotnarg: its fucking  slow
[11:11] <wotnarg> kbrooks: ok... so what?
[11:11] <wotnarg> kbrooks: yea, speed is probably a gnome setting
[11:11] <jonny_> can you run KDE in warty?
[11:11] <kbrooks> wotnarg: no
[11:11] <kbrooks> i said its X
[11:11] <Stormx2> Surely its gnome?
[11:11] <_native_> upgrade for sure jonny_
[11:11] <Xenguy> Hi - can someone running Breezy please give me their output from this -> md5sum /usr/bin/find
[11:11] <_native_> its easy
[11:12] <kbrooks> Stormx2: test shift + numlock, numpad keys (numbers) move the mouse
[11:12] <frank23> 5b7f2cac9527a6e82b781460f771dc58  /usr/bin/find
[11:12] <Stormx2> ea7e2c9c8ac4d78614350de40d6c4b03  /usr/bin/find
[11:12] <frank23> (i386)
[11:12] <tom__> got the graphics working just need to sort out the audio now
[11:12] <Stormx2> same
[11:12] <peritus> ea7e2c9c8ac4d78614350de40d6c4b03  /usr/bin/find
[11:12] <Xenguy> Thanks all
[11:12] <peritus> i386
[11:12] <_native_> my guess is that it would be best to enter runlevel 3 or 1 and do a dist-upgrade
[11:12] <hedonick> ea7e2c9c8ac4d78614350de40d6c4b03
[11:12] <roe> hey all, new to ubunto here, can anyone give me some pointers on getting dvd play back to work
[11:12] <hedonick> here to
[11:12] <haselden> ea7e2c9c8ac4d78614350de40d6c4b03  /usr/bin/find
[11:12] <_native_> cause my dist-upgrade failed in runlevel 5
[11:12] <frank23> Stormx2: peritus why is mine different>?
[11:13] <Stormx2> that seems to be the popular option
[11:13] <Stormx2> frank23: I have absolutely no idea
[11:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell roe about dvd
[11:13] <to2> .... think my question is going under  ...
[11:13] <Amaranth> frank23: amd64 or ppc?
[11:13] <nalioth> kurtkraut: please turn that off
[11:13] <frank23> Amaranth: i386 like the others
[11:13] <to2> noonme has a nvidia GeForce2 Ti ????
[11:13] <Amaranth> to2: you need to to use legacy package
[11:13] <_native_> breezy or hoary? frank23
[11:14] <Amaranth> frank23: you've been rooted :P
[11:14] <Stormx2> frank23: Don't worry. If you havn't got problems it is of no concieuqence
[11:14] <frank23> breezy
[11:14] <to2> Amaranth, where i can fetch them??
[11:14] <jonny_> _native_ I already upgraded, I was just curious
[11:14] <_native_> well if ubuntu included a better security configuration root would be alot harder to get
[11:14] <Amaranth> !+info nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:14] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-legacy: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 1.0.7174-0ubuntu25 (breezy), Packaged size: 2985 kB, Installed size: 9760 kB
[11:15] <sambagirl> hello
[11:15] <_native_> i have to spend 10 minutes just adding basic config changes to get it somewhat secure
[11:15] <nalioth> Amaranth: you're talking too loud, and woke me up
[11:15] <sambagirl> now i am sing open office are there templates avaiable for the draw application?
[11:15] <sambagirl> using not sing
[11:15] <frank23> what package is find in?
[11:16] <Subliminal> could somebody help me fix mplayer, it's gone really slooooow since i upgraded to breezy
[11:16] <iiiears> _native_ - do you have an URL?
[11:16] <_native_> for what?
[11:16] <iiiears> improving security?
[11:17] <_native_> i have many bookmarks
[11:17] <woland_> http://www.ie.openbsd.org
[11:17] <iiiears> Aw, okay..
[11:17] <_native_> the debian harden doc package helps
[11:17] <Amaranth> nalioth: hehe
[11:17] <_native_> i think its included in ubuntu
[11:17] <korio> whenever i move a window i see theese black squares in it
[11:17] <korio> whats up with that?
[11:17] <iiiears> _native_ - Thanks i'll take a look.
[11:17] <_native_> maybe i cant remember
[11:18] <Segro> hi, i need some help with the libdvdcss2 file. can't find it with apt-get.
[11:18] <_native_> im sick : Flu
[11:18] <to2> ubotu, thanks for that hint!
[11:18] <ubotu> no problem, to2
[11:18] <_native_> :-0...
[11:18] <korio> whats up with that?
[11:18] <korio> whenever i move a window i see theese black squares in it
[11:19] <thrush> eww
[11:19] <iiiears> _native_ It's there - Thanks again.
[11:19] <tarheelcoxn> korio: built-in graphics or AGP or something else?
[11:19] <roe> any idea why xine-check complains of not having xine-lib?
[11:19] <nalioth> roe: because you dont have it installed?
[11:20] <_native_> iiiears: there is a hardened ubuntu project the daughter project of hardened debain.
[11:20] <korio> tarheelcoxn, i have an ati radeon 9800 pro with the glrx driver installed and choosed
[11:20] <korio> :&
[11:20] <roe> I installed xine and can't find a seperate package for xine-lib
[11:20] <iiiears> _native_ - sounds good i need the info. - new to linux.
[11:20] <_native_> iiiears: that documentation is also on the debian.org site
[11:21] <tarheelcoxn> korio: good luck. I wouldn't brave anything beyond the 9520
[11:21] <iiiears> !ubotu hardened is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/
[11:21] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[11:21] <BoD_SWAT> korio, tarheelcoxn, for the record I just installed the ATI drivers from the ATI site. They work fine here
[11:21] <korio> So you mean i cant run it on linux?
[11:21] <korio> o
[11:21] <korio> are there debs for that?
[11:22] <BoD_SWAT> korio, are  you talking to me?
[11:22] <korio> yes
[11:22] <joost> hello :) I probably have a n00b question (again) about gdesklet, i created a profile I like, and I want that to load when I boot ubuntu. I added gdesklet to my startup programs in sessions, but ubuntu won't load with it.. am i doing something wrong?
[11:22] <matw> I just ran 'apt-get update' and got a GPG "public key not available" error.
[11:22] <matw> can I work around it?
[11:22] <to2> ubotu, may be a stupid question, but there are neccassary the headers and kernel-sources too:-)
[11:22] <ubotu> to2: I think you lost me on that one
[11:22] <BoD_SWAT> korio, try to begin your sentence with the name of the person you wish to talk to. What's your exact problem/question? (there are no debs by the way)
[11:23] <nalioth> iiiears: what are you whispering in the bots ears?
[11:23] <korio> well BoD_SWAT  it was kind of obvious
[11:23] <to2> don't know what you mean, sorry
[11:23] <korio> BoD_SWAT, how did you install it anyhow?
[11:23] <iiiears> nalioth - (suddenly worried i have done something wqrong...) - erm . just passing on what i know. as i learn it.
[11:24] <iiiears> Hello nalioth. :0
[11:24] <BoD_SWAT> korio, it's kinda easy. When do you wish to do it? I'm planning to update my website tomorrow and I'll post everything there (with the entire xorg.conf file, because it's a bit tricky this time)
[11:24] <iiiears> :)
[11:24] <BoD_SWAT> korio, I'm used to installing ati drivers :)
[11:24] <korio> BoD_SWAT, um I want to do it now
[11:24] <korio> :)
[11:24] <joost> is there an other way to load my gdesklet profile on startup than to start gdesklet itself?
[11:24] <BoD_SWAT> korio, uhhhhh....... how much time do you have?
[11:24] <Subliminal> roe: i dont have it either :-/
[11:24] <korio> Im not shure though, are the glrx drivers no good for an 9800 pro?
[11:25] <korio> because thats what the other guy was saying
[11:25] <korio> fglrx*
[11:25] <BoD_SWAT> korio, you'll need to take hardcopy notes and have at least 30-60 minutes of time available
[11:25] <roe> Subliminal: ahah! so I am not crazy
[11:25] <haselden> joost: i think you can add it to your startup session
[11:25] <korio> holy..
[11:25] <matw> I just tried to access the seveas.ubuntulinx repository and got a GPG key error. Can I work around it?
[11:25] <haselden> try system>prefs>sessions
[11:25] <nalioth> matw: it wont keep you from the software
[11:25] <korio> i believe there was a tutorial on the forums though BoD_SWAT , it didnt seem to take more than 5 minutes
[11:25] <BoD_SWAT> korio, I have an ATI Radeon 9700 pro and I need the ATI drivers to my dual-screen will work correctly
[11:25] <matw> How can I access without apt-get?
[11:26] <joost> haselden, i added gdesklet itself to the startip programs, but ubuntu failed loading when i had gdesklets over there
[11:26] <_native_> iiiears: http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail594.html
[11:26] <BoD_SWAT> korio, the tutorial is flaud
[11:26] <iiiears> nalioth - lol - Good news your patient teaching has gotten me to ignore a nearly new windows machine. only an occasional game
[11:26] <korio> i wish i had an nvidia card!
[11:26] <korio> -.-
[11:26] <Subliminal> roe: but i'm also having video fun, but my xine-ui does work
[11:26] <_native_> iiiears: http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail620.html
[11:26] <nalioth> iiiears: ok then
[11:26] <Seveas> matw, look at the homepage of that site...
[11:26] <iiiears> _native_ Excellent! :)
[11:26] <korio> heck im going to put in my old mx 440
[11:26] <matw> www.seveas.ubuntulinux.org?
[11:26] <roe> Subliminal: mine crashes
[11:27] <_native_> yeah podcasts rock for really learning from the experts
[11:27] <haselden> joost: try logging out and "save current session"....i think that will start your desktop with whatever you had running
[11:27] <nalioth> matw: .nl i think
[11:27] <matw> Ah! sorry!
[11:27] <joost> okay, gonna try, thanks :)
[11:27] <haselden> joost: but if you have a bunch of other progs running too, it'll launch those as well :)
[11:27] <BoD_SWAT> korio, by the way, I installed an Nvidia here for one time only (just to test  it). I couldn't even install it correctly. So ATI drivers may be worse, they're easier to install1
[11:27] <Seveas> matw, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (no www)
[11:27] <joost> thx!
[11:27] <matw> Thanks! I'll check it out.
[11:27] <Seveas> just like in the deb line...
[11:27] <korio> BoD_SWAT, I have never had a problem with an nvidia card under linux
[11:28] <c6h12o6> lo peoples
[11:28] <korio> well im going to reinstall and put i a new card BoD_SWAT
[11:29] <iiiears> korio - If you don't need FPS newegg has a good choice of cards under $60 - 5xxx series
[11:29] <BoD_SWAT> korio, if you are able to wait a day or so, I can put it on my website. Then it's a five-minute install :D
[11:29] <rexykik> is there a way i can boot straight to a terminal rather than booting to X (from a hard drive install)? For some reason a couple moments after loading X and going to load Gnome everything freezes...mouse, keyboard, all. Cant even CTRL+ALT+backspace
[11:29] <c6h12o6> hmm, what's a good online job site in the u.s?
[11:29] <Ropechoborra> Hiz !
[11:29] <thrush> c6h12o6: careerbuilder or monster
[11:29] <c6h12o6> something like monster, but better
[11:29] <_native_> they all suck!
[11:29] <_native_> jk
[11:29] <Seveas> c6h12o6, -ETOPIC ask somewhere else...
[11:29] <Ropechoborra> Does anybody knows how to run xf86config on hoary ?
[11:29] <joost> hmmm it saved my gaim and my skype, but not my gdesklets :(
[11:29] <c6h12o6> hmm, i'm not getting anything from monster..
[11:29] <rexykik> _native_ = right
[11:29] <_native_> :-] 
[11:29] <nalioth> rexykik: /msg ubotu bum
[11:29] <BoD_SWAT> korio, the URL is www.schauenburg.nl  If you want you can check it tomorrow :D
[11:29] <Seveas> Ropechoborra, you don't -- hoary uses xorg
[11:29] <c6h12o6> seveas, well i'm here about linux..
[11:29] <Ropechoborra> Oh
[11:29] <rexykik> bum?
[11:30] <c6h12o6> but my job with cogent is getting phased out... so
[11:30] <thrush> c6h12o6: i prefer careerbuilder or america job bank
[11:30] <Ropechoborra> Seveas Youve just destroyed hours of investigation
[11:30] <rexykik> is that an insult...or...?
[11:30] <Ropechoborra> xD
[11:30] <c6h12o6> aparently it's cheaper to hire a highschool linux geek than pay for me
[11:30] <Seveas> !tell rexykik about bum
[11:30] <Seveas> rexykik, ubotu told you
[11:30] <topyli> c6h12o6: i'm sure ubuntu will help you find a job. still, you're off topic
[11:30] <c6h12o6> anyway, so what was new in breezy?
[11:31] <Ropechoborra> So... how do i run xorg ??? just typeing "xorg" ?
[11:31] <topyli> c6h12o6: little stuff mostly, nothing dramatic
[11:31] <c6h12o6> i read about the gnome updates, it said something about editable menus..
[11:31] <_native_> read the release notes for more detail
[11:31] <sunshine82> does anyone know what this mean and how i can change it ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:746:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream
[11:31] <c6h12o6> does that mean i can change them completely?
[11:31] <thrush> Ropechoborra: gdm?
[11:32] <Ropechoborra> What?
[11:32] <_native_> yes
[11:32] <c6h12o6> that's cool
[11:32] <Ropechoborra> Dont got that =( (not well at english)
[11:32] <topyli> you can upgrade with a couple of commands. see the link given in the channel topic
[11:32] <rexykik> Seveas, is bum standard install with 5.1?
[11:32] <Seveas> no
[11:33] <_native_> c6h12o6: gosh i cant type that cryptic nick fast enough
[11:33] <Seveas> 5.10 has something I consider better
[11:33] <rexykik> ...
[11:33] <thrush> Ropechoborra: wet the steel the raven croaks! the sparrow flies at midnight!
[11:33] <rexykik> so what does bum do me any good with?
[11:33] <topyli> _native_: c6-TAB is easier for me than _n-TAB :)
[11:33] <Elsan> I need help. I accidentally(or stupidly) gave myself control over /usr/bin and now my sudo command does not work anymore and I can't launch applications requiring a sudo password from the GNOME menu.
[11:34] <Stormx2> Elsan: Hang on
[11:34] <Stormx2> !sudo
[11:34] <ubotu> sudo is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:34] <Stormx2> Check that page
[11:34] <rexykik> !ninja
[11:34] <ubotu> rexykik: Are you smoking crack?
[11:34] <agt> Where should I put fonts? I have a bunch of .pcf fonts I want to add
[11:34] <Stormx2> it gives you a command to disable the root account
[11:34] <rexykik> !ninj
[11:34] <ubotu> rexykik: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:34] <tarheelcoxn> _native_: use a better irc client that allows for tab completion of nicks
[11:34] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[11:34] <ubotu> thanks stormx2 :)
[11:34] <c6h12o6> _native_, juz call me glucose
[11:34] <c6h12o6> it's easier
[11:34] <rexykik> lol
[11:35] <DShepherd> agt: try font://
[11:35] <iiiears> Be nice to the bot his wife is the department of motor vehicles computer. - grin
[11:35] <topyli> Elsan: you mean you changed ownership of /usr/bin to yourself instead of root?
[11:35] <rexykik> tab complete owns
[11:35] <Stormx2> so type /nick glucose o.O
[11:35] <Elsan> topyli: YES
[11:35] <DShepherd> agt: I think you need admin access to add fonts
[11:35] <_native_> man im new to irc so still learning all the shortcuts. :-)
[11:35] <Ropechoborra> [18:33]  <thrush> Ropechoborra: wet the steel the raven croaks! the sparrow flies at midnight! <--- i got that but has no sense
[11:35] <Elsan> topyli: and after all I found I didn't need to :/
[11:35] <rexykik> Stormx2, then it wouldn't be clever
[11:35] <Stormx2> irc is just multiplayer text editing
[11:35] <topyli> Elsan: congratulations :) -- you might be able to fix it in single user mode
[11:35] <rexykik> Ropechoborra, he was just messing with you
[11:35] <Ropechoborra> I imagined that
[11:35] <Ropechoborra> noonon
[11:36] <Ropechoborra> Guesss that
[11:36] <Ropechoborra> thats the word :P
[11:36] <rexykik> or writing poetry
[11:36] <Stormx2> x.x
[11:36] <rexykik> one of the two
[11:36] <iiiears> Storm2 - "BFG" Big Font Game?
[11:36] <Ropechoborra> xD
[11:36] <rexykik> maybe he is trying to serenade you?
[11:36] <cas^> hello! i am having problems with printing in breezy. changing resolution of my printings doesn't work. it doesn't matter whether i'm using gnome-cups-manager or cups' web interface: resulting printout is always at the lowest possible quality
[11:36] <Ropechoborra> Thanks anyway
[11:36] <Stormx2> XD
[11:36] <Ropechoborra> hehehehe
[11:36] <Elsan> topyli: Thank you :) Reinstalling is not an option, at least for a first one, I just configured everything to my tastes and it was the 7th time in 4 days.
[11:36] <topyli> iiiears: big fraggin' gun
[11:36] <agt> DShepherd, thanks
[11:36] <Stormx2> !printing
[11:36] <ubotu> printing is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[11:36] <Elsan> topyli: How do I do it? I add root as login?
[11:36] <DShepherd> agt: no problem
[11:36] <cas^> i have an epson c42
[11:36] <topyli> Elsan: you ever make backups? :)
[11:37] <zero_> hm, is that online?
[11:37] <tarheelcoxn> ubotu: tell cas^ about printing
[11:37] <cas^> it did work perfectly in all my previous distros
[11:37] <zero_> i wonder if i'm really online, trying hard this evening to get in...
[11:37] <topyli> Elsan: you can't do anything about sudo since sudo doesn't work. and you have no root login. it's init 1, single user mode baby
[11:37] <Elsan> topyli: I just finished installing it yesterday and I have no space and don't know how to make some with Linux, I can backup my /home/user folder, no problem, but I don'T want to reinstall and redownload EVERYTHING for the 8th time!!
[11:37] <Ropechoborra> Hi again xD
[11:37] <Ropechoborra> lol
[11:38] <topyli> Elsan: yeah that sucks, really
[11:38] <Elsan> topyli: can I just login as root(after setting it on) and changing user permissions
[11:38] <jonny_> cyphase , are you there?
[11:38] <Elsan> *cries*
[11:38] <test34> anyone using a modem for answering machine/call blocker (with callerID)? if so, what modem works good ?
[11:38] <rexykik> Elsan, what do you mean "make some space"?
[11:39] <zero_> @Elsan: Sorry for bothering, but am i online?? (no joke)
[11:39] <Ropechoborra> How do i connect by dial up with hoary ?????
[11:39] <jonny_> zero_ yes
[11:39] <tasuki> zero_ try ping...
[11:39] <topyli> Elsan: find out about single user mode, this is no place for a complete tutorial. basically, you give a "single" or "init=1" option to the boot loader, and it boots linux in single user mode, i.e. God mode
[11:39] <Elsan> zero_: Yes, you are. :P I see you in the user list
[11:39] <iiiears> test34 are there good answering machine packages for linux? - last time i looked is mgetty/vgetty config hell.
[11:39] <cas^> zero_: thx, but all this is useless. the problem is that there is something wrong with cups or gimp-print in breezy
[11:39] <Elsan> topyli: uh... ok...
[11:39] <zero_> strange because my comp tells me something other
[11:39] <tasuki> should I mount cd before trying to burn it?
[11:40] <test34> iiiears, the only thing Ive seen so far is vgetty
[11:40] <zero_> thanx anyway to everybody ;)
[11:40] <DShepherd> tasuki: are you using breezy?
[11:40] <sremington> iiiears: asterisk makes a pretty good answering machine ;)
[11:40] <iiiears> test34 "" same
[11:40] <cas^> it doesn't respect any settings related to quality
[11:40] <Stormx2> tasuki: inserted blank cds should mount automaticly.
[11:40] <tasuki> (I tried both mounting it and not mounting it and neither works )-:
[11:40] <test34> iiiears, but I never tried it so I don't know
[11:40] <topyli> Elsan: then you can change the permissions, and make any system changes. all that's missing is the network (and thus, the gui)
[11:40] <zero_> btw, it's a dial up with hoary
[11:40] <iiiears> asterisk. hm
[11:40] <jonny_> man, ubuntus complicated
[11:40] <Elsan> rexyzik: I meant backups
[11:40] <tasuki> I use breezy, yes, and automount somehow doesnt work here...
[11:40] <Ropechoborra> How do i connect to internet by dial up with hoary ?????
[11:40] <rexykik> jonny_, LOL!!!
[11:40] <iiiears> Thanks sremington :)
[11:40] <Stormx2> jonny_: When you get used to it, it isn't
[11:41] <zero_> @Rope.. Try PPPoE...
[11:41] <Elsan> topyli: It says "opration non permise" when I try to change it wit hthe H
[11:41] <Stormx2> We all probably found windows complicated when we first started
[11:41] <test34> Ropechoborra, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[11:41] <zero_> that's what i did and it seems to work :)
[11:41] <Elsan> the GNOMe terminal
[11:41] <Ropechoborra> zero_ whats that ?? :(
[11:41] <Stormx2> then we just gae up ^_^
[11:41] <cas^> it juest keeps ignoring them. i had several distros before, for example pld, and it did work
[11:41] <jonny_> oh, and im switching from the all-so-easy-yey-all-so-annoying XP
[11:41] <Ropechoborra> Thankx!!!! =)
[11:41] <_native_> KC you here?
[11:41] <jonny_> *yet
[11:41] <Elsan> topyli: It's not permitted
[11:41] <DShepherd> tasuki: well you will have to mount it yourself
[11:41] <zero_> i read it at "ubuntuusers.de"
[11:41] <Elsan> topyli: I can always try recovery mode in GRUB
[11:41] <Stormx2> jonny_: What do you need help with?
[11:41] <zero_> it searches your modem (analog, isdn or dsl or something else)
[11:42] <jonny_> well...its off topic...but installing real player
[11:42] <zero_> try: sudo pppoeconf
[11:42] <jonny_> if you have an AIM acount I could ask you there.
[11:42] <tasuki> dshepherd: it says: "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc" when I try to mount a blank cd
[11:42] <cas^> it would be great if someone here could tell me if changing printing quality settings works for him in breezy
[11:42] <zero_> submit and follow instructions
[11:42] <Ropechoborra> Other thing... ive tryed to open OpenOffice text editor but it doesnt ...  =(
[11:42] <cas^> especially owner of an epson
[11:42] <mario> HOLA
[11:42] <topyli> Elsan: well, if root doesn't own the executables it cannot run them. and you cannot run them because they depend on libraries in /usr/lib owned by root (who, as you remember, doesn't own the executable). or something like that :)
[11:42] <mario> ALGUIEN QUE ESCRIBA EN CASSTELLANO
[11:42] <tasuki> dshepherd: cds with something on them mount just fine...
[11:42] <test34> Ropechoborra, gives you any errors ?
[11:43] <Ropechoborra> mario
[11:43] <Stormx2> jonny_: For realplayer, check the restricted formats wiki
[11:43] <iiiears> !ubuntu-es
[11:43] <ubotu> iiiears: I haven't a clue
[11:43] <Stormx2> !mp3
[11:43] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[11:43] <Elsan> topyli: DAMN
[11:43] <Ropechoborra> Tenes que entrar en ubuntu-es para espaol
[11:43] <DShepherd> tasuki: what is the fs type you using?
[11:43] <Seveas> !es
[11:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:43] <nalioth> !es
[11:43] <Ropechoborra> hahahaha
[11:43] <Ropechoborra> Im the live-one traductor
[11:43] <Ropechoborra> :P
[11:43] <Belutz> has anyone installed postgres 7.4 in breezy?
[11:43] <jonny_> I did, but I get confused about the .bin thing!?! , Stormx2
[11:43] <Elsan> topyli: Can I stop "gdm" and change those permissions?
[11:43] <Ropechoborra> alive-one ore living one ?
[11:43] <tasuki> dshepherd: errr, iso?
[11:43] <madsen> Ok, I've got an strace with a _lot_ of failing stat64() in... But wtf is stat64()?
[11:43] <mario> Ropecoborra: como se entra en ubuntu-es???????????????????
[11:43] <topyli> Elsan: since it's such a new installation, i would reinstall and get some practice on the side
[11:44] <Ropechoborra> mario tipea /j #ubuntu-es
[11:44] <Elsan> topyli: ARG! Practice! I got some for the 7th time this week! ARG
[11:44] <Stormx2> jonny_: let me take a look
[11:44] <topyli> Elsan: no, gdm has nothing to do with it. you need to reboot to the almighty single user mode
[11:44] <jonny_> @ what?
[11:44] <DShepherd> tasuki: iso9660? right
[11:44] <jonny_> the wiki?
[11:44] <Elsan> topyli: I know now I should put my sh file in /usr/local/bin now, I had forgotten about it before
[11:44] <topyli> Elsan: hack on! =)
[11:45] <tasuki> dshepherd: uh, probably :)
[11:45] <zero_> bye @ll
[11:45] <Ropechoborra> Other thing... ive tryed to open OpenOffice text editor but it doesnt ...  =(
[11:45] <Stormx2> jonny_: have you tried (in terminal) sudo apt-get install realplayer
[11:45] <topyli> Elsan: you also know now that permissions on system files are not arbitrary, but set for a purpose :)
[11:45] <DShepherd> tasuki: do you know how to mount devices, if you should man mount
[11:46] <Stormx2> Ack!
[11:46] <Stormx2> Fedora Core >.>
[11:46] <Elsan> topyli: Great, my iPod does not work anymore so I can't make my backups, I'll try recovery mode :/
[11:46] <tasuki> dshepherd: well, I thought I knew, but not sure anymore :-)  (sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0/)
[11:46] <jonny_> yes, the installer launches but something happens with some .bin thing. it tells me to enter where it is, but I dont know
[11:46] <Elsan> topyli: I did it for some folders before.
[11:46] <jonny_> stormx2: yes, the installer launches but something happens with some .bin thing. it tells me to enter where it is, but I dont know
[11:47] <topyli> Elsan: yeah, when grub the bootloader comes up, press ESC and you can pass the "single" parameter to the kernel
[11:47] <Elsan> topyli: What would be the command to copy a file/folder to a specififc folder?
[11:47] <_native_> jonny_, just hit enter
[11:47] <Ropechoborra> How do i change user priorities ?
[11:47] <DShepherd> tasuki:  that seems right
[11:47] <Ropechoborra> How do i change users priorities ?
[11:47] <Stormx2> jonny_: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl - show me what you mean. Copy & Paste (its Ctrl + Shift + C in terminal)
[11:47] <tarheelcoxn> Elsan: cp
[11:47] <madsen> No one knows what stat64() is and why it could be failing with, say, "stat64("libc.so.6", 0xbfb15b84)         = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)"?
[11:47] <DShepherd> tasuki: that doesnt work?
[11:47] <cevizoglu> Ropechoborra, give them things to do
[11:47] <jonny_> I did and it said that it did not reckognize it at that location
[11:47] <tasuki> dshepherd: it doesnt :(
[11:47] <Seveas> cevizoglu, rofl
[11:47] <jonny_> sorry, spelling erroes
[11:47] <topyli> Elsan: cp foo bar, where foo is the original file and bar is the copy. for directories, you need the -a switch
[11:48] <tarheelcoxn> Elsan: cp -aR for a directory and all its contents
[11:48] <jonny_> errors* LOL
[11:48] <Blake_Seven> I am net to ubuntu I have a server up and running. What I need help with is How do I lock down my server so I can manage it remotely, ftp, web server, smtp, pop.
[11:48] <matw> I'm running am64-breezy, will the seveas FreeNX binaries work with amd64?
[11:48] <_native_> jonny_, did you download it to your home/jonny dir
[11:48] <Blake_Seven> net=new
[11:48] <Belutz> when i'm trying to start postgresql, it says "TCP/IP connections must be enabled for SSL" how do i enable that?
[11:48] <cevizoglu> Ropechoborra, but for permissions, use chmod, chown, chgrp
[11:48] <jonny_> ummmmmmm
[11:48] <Elsan> topyli, tarhellcoxn: can you give me an example?
[11:48] <Seveas> matw, no, but you can apt-get source them and build them yourself
[11:48] <jonny_> no idea
[11:48] <jonny_> ill try that
[11:49] <Seveas> matw: add deb-src http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas freenx
[11:49] <Stormx2> _native_: He used apt-get install - so it didn't download to his home dir
[11:49] <Ropechoborra> cevizoglu got that... but, to do it on every file??? :( isnt there some general option ?
[11:49] <Seveas> then: apt-get -b source nx freenx
[11:49] <_native_> ok
[11:49] <Seveas> and install the locally created packages with dpkg -i
[11:49] <matw> seveas, I'm unfamiliar with source. should I get .dsc, diff.gz, tar.gz, or all of them?
[11:49] <DShepherd> tasuki: trying it myself
[11:49] <Elsan> topyli: I checked my GRUB menu and it does have the single parameter under recovery mode.
[11:49] <topyli> Elsan: ok. copy all your porn from /home/topyli to /var/svass: 'cp -a /home/topyli/pr0n /var/svass/topylis-pr0n'
[11:49] <Seveas> matw, I just explained it ;)
[11:49] <topyli> for a directory
[11:49] <tasuki> dshepherd: dmesg says this: [50413.547549]  attempt to access beyond end of device  [50413.547561]  hdc: rw=0, want=68, limit=4  [50413.547569]  isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16
[11:49] <topyli> Elsan: great, you have it easy. i remember now, ubuntu does that
[11:49] <_native_> Stormx2, , so should'nt be instlalled
[11:50] <racookier> hi
[11:50] <matw> Thanks Seveas, I need to take notes.
[11:50] <_native_> Stormx2, , so should'nt it
[11:50] <_native_> *
[11:50] <cevizoglu> Ropechoborra, chmod *.txt  will, for example, change all files ending with .txt
[11:50] <Elsan> topyli: My porn's on Windows, I haven't made all my switch ;)
[11:50] <thrush> Elsan: no! you cant treat pr0n like that you have to tar it!
[11:50] <Stormx2> _native_: Keyboard problems? ;-)
[11:50] <Seveas> tar and feathers...
[11:50] <Elsan> topyli: Thanks! I'll get to it in a sec and get back to you.
[11:50] <cevizoglu> Ropechoborra, -R will change all files in a folder
[11:50] <topyli> Elsan: quick! your porn will go sour on ntfs drives!
[11:50] <Ropechoborra> Ok! is there anyway that i could access to the Visual mode with the root user ?
[11:50] <Elsan> thrush: What do you mean?
[11:50] <_native_> Stormx2, book in front of me
[11:50] <BoD_SWAT> Question: My 1st screen = 95*96dpi and my 2nd=75*75dpi. I need to change the dpi for my 2nd monitor. How can I do this? (xorg?)
[11:50] <_native_> :-)
[11:50] <Belutz> :-(
[11:50] <KurtKraut> Ropechoborra, no
[11:51] <Elsan> topyli: I converted it in FAT32 with Partition Magic before installing Ubuntu.
[11:51] <Ropechoborra> =(
[11:51] <jonny_> here you go! :http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3613 stormx2
[11:51] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[11:51] <DShepherd> tasuki: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0--- works for me
[11:51] <DShepherd> tasuki: that was a cdR that's why I mounted it as readonly
[11:51] <Cole--> whats the del command in Konsole?
[11:51] <topyli> Elsan: ok you can use fat32
[11:51] <jonny_> here you go!: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3613 stormx2
[11:51] <KurtKraut> Ropechoborra, or at least, the is not a way that I know. But for security issues, you shouldnt do that even you you can.
[11:51] <thrush> Elsan: tar makes a kind of archive file u can tar multiple dir and files into one file.tar..nm
[11:51] <jonny_> sorry about not making it a link!
[11:52] <Elsan> thrush: Ok
[11:52] <Elsan> Thanks. I'll reboot in recovery.
[11:52] <racookier> how to change gnome desktop to kde ?
[11:52] <Stormx2> jonny_: You are using ubuntu right? And you issued "sudo apt-get install realplayer" ?
[11:52] <phiqtion> where do i add new X11 CURSOR sets?
[11:52] <Ropechoborra> KurtKraut But for example... everitime i try to open something or modify something it says i dont got the permissions
[11:52] <tasuki> dshepherd: for me it doesnt (with blank cds, that is...)
[11:52] <thrush> racookier: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:52] <Stormx2> jonny_: I have 0 idea why it is talking about rpms...
[11:52] <DShepherd> tasuki:
[11:52] <Elsan> racookier: Type in a terminal "sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop" and choose kdm as the default manager
[11:52] <KurtKraut> Ropechoborra, but it doesnt asks for a password ?
[11:52] <topyli> Elsan: good luck!
[11:52] <tasuki> dshepherd: and I tried different ones to be sure...
[11:53] <Cole--> whats the del command in Konsole?
[11:53] <Elsan> racookier: Or when you login, click on session and choose KDE
[11:53] <Stormx2> rm
[11:53] <iiiears> racooker - you can d/l all the packages  "kubuntu-desktop"   100+ mbs
[11:53] <phiqtion> where do i add new X11 CURSOR sets?
[11:53] <Ropechoborra> KurtKraut not from the visual mode
[11:53] <Elsan> racookier: sorry it's "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[11:53] <KurtKraut> Ropechoborra, are you using Ubuntu with GNOME ?
[11:53] <Ropechoborra> yap
[11:53] <tarheelcoxn> phiqtion: in gnome?
[11:53] <jonny_> Oh well, realplayer isnt vital, stormx2
[11:53] <matw> seveas, I added the deb-src line as you wrote it, but I couln't apt-get because of the GPG error
[11:53] <phiqtion> tarheelcoxn, yes
[11:54] <KurtKraut> Ropechoborra, because visually, when you attemp to do something that root should do, Ubuntu asks for a password and then you are free to do what you need.
[11:54] <tarheelcoxn> phiqtion: if you figure that out, let me know
[11:54] <Seveas> matw, if you looked at the homepage, you can see how to solve this error
[11:54] <phiqtion> where do i add new X11 CURSOR sets?
[11:54] <Elsan> racookier: Or get Kubuntu if you don't want GNOME at all
[11:54] <tarheelcoxn> phiqtion: I switched to kde in anger because I spent a day and a half trying to figure that out
[11:54] <pitito> Hay alguien quehable espaol en lina ahora msmo?
[11:54] <_native_> plugable authentication modules rule!
[11:54] <zblach> !ubuntu-es
[11:54] <ubotu> zblach: No idea
[11:54] <DShepherd> tasuki: I dont have a blank anywhere
[11:54] <Blake_Seven> can you get gnome thru shh shell ?
[11:54] <_native_> *pluggable
[11:54] <Ropechoborra> KurtKraut oh... but no... it says "Contact the root for permissions" or something like that
[11:54] <tarheelcoxn> ubotu: tell pitito about spanish
[11:54] <phiqtion> tarheelcoxn, well. i use to like KDE, but i find gnome better
[11:54] <Stormx2> jonny_: I suggest you use "Beep Media player", download it from Synaptic! System --> Administration --> Synaptic package manager
[11:54] <matw> seveas, Thanks! I see the fix now. :-)
[11:54] <tarheelcoxn> phiqtion: ditto
[11:55] <_native_> Blake_Seven, yes
[11:55] <KurtKraut> Ropechoborra, are you using Ubuntu and GNOME ?
[11:55] <pDal> ERROR: SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[11:55] <pDal>  - i get this error while trying to start quake4 and glxgears turns slow, so i have been told that its my conig or drivers thats the problem, please help
[11:55] <Stormx2> jonny_: And remember that there are a good 17,000 packages in Synaptic with universe and multiverse enabled.
[11:55] <_native_> Blake_Seven, if i understand your question correctly
[11:55] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Hey, what's a good program for unraring files
[11:55] <zblach> i've had to replatform recently, so i'm trying to get some more things up and running. 1) 3d-acceleration with radeon, 2)java 1.5 sdk. any help is appreciated
[11:55] <Blake_Seven> what is the command.. I am in a airport with nonting to do for @#%2 hours...
[11:55] <tasuki> dshepherd: ok, nevermind, thanks for trying... :)
[11:55] <phiqtion> tarheelcoxn, so you're using kubuntu?
[11:55] <Ropechoborra> KurtKraut Ive instal Ubuntu 5.04 and ive read it brings GNOME with it (Im newbie on this :( )
[11:55] <Stormx2> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu: File Roller
[11:55] <KurtKraut> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu, seach for RAR on www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:55] <nalioth> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu: install unrar-nonfree and then your gui file mangler will handle all of them
[11:56] <Stormx2> Ropechoborra: yes, it does.
[11:56] <Blake_Seven> I have Putty running now
[11:56] <_native_> zblach,  i got cha
[11:56] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> stormx2 Didn't work.
[11:56] <tarheelcoxn> phiqtion: I installed ubuntu then added the kubuntu-desktop package
[11:56] <KurtKraut> Ropechoborra, you shouldnt be experiencing that problem. Please, post your problem on ubuntuforums.org
[11:56] <nalioth> KurtKraut: please dont advise ubuntuguide
[11:56] <Stormx2> Ropechoborra: GNOME is the default desktop environment
[11:56] <zblach> _native_, you rule
[11:56] <tarheelcoxn> I have both gnome and KDE
[11:56] <_native_> zblach,  what radeon
[11:56] <phiqtion> tarheelcoxn, and how's the login screen?
[11:56] <zblach> _native_, 9700 pro
[11:56] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> nalioth I don't know what that meant, but I'll figure it out. thanks.
[11:56] <izigo> o my o my this chat was active
[11:56] <izigo> damn
[11:56] <KurtKraut> nalioth, ok... but why not ?
[11:56] <Ropechoborra> Ok...
[11:56] <Ropechoborra> Thankx! anyway
[11:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell KurtKraut about ubuntuguide
[11:56] <tarheelcoxn> phiqtion: I picked kdm as the default display manager
[11:56] <tarheelcoxn> so... blue
[11:57] <Stormx2> Ropechoborra: I don't know why he told you that...
[11:57] <Stormx2> Ropechoborra: Were you just asking whether it included GNOME?
[11:57] <_native_> zblach, so your sure you dont have accel out of the box
[11:57] <zblach> _native_, how to test in 5.10
[11:57] <zblach> ?
[11:57] <_native_> zblach, you should pm me
[11:57] <izigo> how old is ubuntu?
[11:57] <Stormx2> Um
[11:57] <Stormx2> no idea
[11:57] <Stormx2> ^_^
[11:57] <c6h12o6> heh, raid0 of two quantum bigfoots is funny
[11:57] <izigo> lol
[11:57] <tarheelcoxn> izigo: a year
[11:57] <gnomefreak> 18 months lol
[11:57] <nalioth> _native_: nobody can talk to you in a /pm. because you are unregisterd with services
[11:57] <Ropechoborra> Stormx2 I supous yes...
[11:57] <c6h12o6> a whole 16g of raid
[11:57] <izigo> that old? well its still young :D
[11:58] <Stormx2> Ropechoborra: So there wasn't a problem? :-\
[11:58] <_native_> u huh he just did
[11:58] <tarheelcoxn> izigo: it's got a lot of debian history, though
[11:58] <izigo> i guess i should try it.. but then again all my systems is production systems.
[11:58] <gnomefreak> new version every 6 months 3rd just came out
[11:58] <zblach> izigo, newest version is about 2 weeks
[11:58] <apokryphos> izigo: it's been around for longer, but only really gained acknowledgement at Hoary, really.
[11:58] <nalioth> _native_: nobody will recieve YOUR /pms
[11:58] <Stormx2> really?
[11:58] <_native_> ill identify real quick
[11:58] <Stormx2> Ubuntu is awesome
[11:58] <Ropechoborra> Stormx2 My problem is that i cant enter to the visual mode with root so ive created a new user called Ropechoborra (lol) but in that user i dont got permission and is anoying having to change them from the text mode one by one
[11:58] <Stormx2> Better than the rest
[11:58] <phiqtion> tarheelcoxn, where i get the kubuntu package
[11:59] <_native_> yeah
[11:59] <izigo> Stormx2 thats what everyone sayes about all distros hehe.
[11:59] <Ropechoborra> Stormx2 file by file...
[11:59] <iiiears> phiqtion, synaptic kubuntu-desktop  ?
[11:59] <tarheelcoxn> phiqtion: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:59] <tarheelcoxn> as root
[11:59] <Stormx2> Ropechoborra: That is strange. I suggest you post on the forums
[11:59] <gnomefreak> for being as new to linux as ubuntu is they are really kicking butt
[11:59] <tarheelcoxn> phiqtion: or you can use synaptic
[12:00] <apokryphos> Ropechoborra: why do you want graphical root?
[12:00] <izigo> problem is my systems depend on stability and reliability. and since i never used ubuntu its like going from redhat as standard user to slackware ;)