[04:52] <judax> started to work on a spec for Adept User Guide and added section to DocteamProjects
[06:20] <judax> night all
[08:20] <kevogod> fiction --> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#addingbackports
[08:22] <Burgundavia> kevogod, why do you say that?
[08:22] <Burgundavia> kevogod, dapper has not yet even opened
[08:22] <kevogod> breezy-backports does not exist
[08:22] <Burgundavia> yes, but that is a temporary thing
[08:22] <Burgundavia> file a bug about needing a note for next time
[08:22] <ajmitch> well
[08:23] <Burgundavia> stating "Backports may not start right away"
[08:23] <ajmitch> Burgundavia: what are the plans with svn & bzr?
[08:23] <Burgundavia> ajmitch, no idea
[08:23] <Burgundavia> we have talked about it
[08:23] <ajmitch> I found this & felt like trying to port it to bzr - http://www.dur.ac.uk/j.r.c.geldart/projects/barter/screenshots.html
[08:24] <Burgundavia> yes, that looks very cool
[08:24] <Burgundavia> I spoke to the developer of that a couple of months ago
[08:24] <ajmitch> ah cool
[08:24] <ajmitch> hm, icons are missing
[08:25] <ajmitch> but the 5-minute package I did seems to have worked
[08:25] <ajmitch> bbiab
[08:33] <rob^> hello
[08:35] <rob^> kevogod, no they are not yet, but will be eventually. When we write the doc we need to take everything into account, and after a certain date (string freeze) we cannot add/change the docs so it was a case of either include it now or never
[08:36] <rob^> and seeing as backports are an official project, and it is a faq when backports are available 
[08:37] <rob^> and it does no harm really to include it when they are not :)
[08:37] <kevogod> They receive an error message.
[08:37] <kevogod> And it does not work.
[08:38] <rob^> yep
[08:38] <rob^> no harm though
[08:38] <kevogod> To the computer, no.
[08:38] <kevogod> To the reliability of th e the document, yes.
[08:38] <rob^> before the review there was a note there about the issue. it was removed during review
[08:39] <Burgundavia> oops
[08:39] <rob^> iirc
[08:39] <Burgundavia> we should probably have a comment abut that for dapper
[08:39] <rob^> yeah
[08:39] <rob^> bbl baby needs feeding
[08:39] <kevogod> What is the schedule for backports, anyway?
[08:39] <Burgundavia> kevogod, no idea, we are the wrong people to ask
[08:40] <Burgundavia> kevogod, you need to talk to Mez
[08:53] <mdke> kevogod, it is not an error with the doc, it is an error with the backports, the archive should have been created
[08:54] <kevogod> They go hand in hand, IMHO.
[08:55] <mdke> no, it is a bug with backports
[08:55] <mdke> we can't represent all bugs in our documentation
[08:55] <kevogod> It is not necessarily an error in theory in the document.
[08:55] <mdke> there are plenty of errors in that document, but this is NOT one of them
[08:55] <mdke> the backports archive should be created, especially because it is commented in the default sources.list
[08:56] <kevogod> Should've, could've, would've. The user does not care.
[08:57] <mdke> ok so go pester the backports people, there is nothing wrong with the doc
[09:00] <mdke> there are thousands of bugs around, we can't predict them
[09:01] <kevogod> As a whole, it is a good document. Thanks.
[09:02] <mdke> :)
[09:03] <Madpilot> heh
[09:13] <mdke> Burgundavia, had a look at BetterWikiDocs?
[09:15] <Burgundavia> mdke, not yet
[09:17] <Burgundavia> took a look now
[09:17] <Burgundavia> about to go to bed, but will look at it tomorrow
[09:17] <ajmitch> I suppose I should start packaing
[09:17] <Burgundavia> can you give feedback on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugReports
[09:17] <ajmitch> s/packaing/packing/
[09:18] <Burgundavia> I would love to get it good enough to push to the fridge
[09:18] <Burgundavia> night all
[09:18] <mdke> night
[09:18] <ajmitch> hmm
[09:19] <ajmitch> looking like a fairly even split between duck & dragon on the fridge
[09:19] <mdke> :/
[09:22] <mdke> you guys suck
[09:23] <mdke> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake#Animals
[09:23] <mdke> perhaps it is the pokemon character
[09:25] <Madpilot> mdke: look under "Fictional creatures and characters" - first entry is for "European dragon" ;)
[09:25] <mdke> yes
[09:25] <mdke> look at the europea dragon page and search for "drake"
[09:26] <Madpilot> just did, no results. <rude noise> 
[09:27] <Madpilot> the move to Linux, summed up: "Hey! We're not in CTRL-ALT-DEL any more!"
[09:27] <Madpilot> from http://theinquirer.net/?article=26935 via The Fridge
[09:28] <ajmitch> hah
[09:28] <Madpilot> it's a good article, actually.
[09:30] <Madpilot> I like the fifth paragraph down, about the "anguish and pain" ;)
[09:31] <ajmitch> yay
[09:31] <ajmitch> seems that my cd writer just doesn't want to cooperate today
[09:31] <ajmitch> so much for a fresh breezy install
[09:32] <Madpilot> it's contagious - I've got an audio CD here that won't play...
[09:32] <ajmitch> oh finally it starts doing something
[09:32] <ajmitch> makes a few noises
[09:33] <ajmitch> cdrecord shows a tiny bit more
[09:33] <Madpilot> meh... it plays fine in my old CDROM, but not in the CD/DVD/burner...
[09:34] <Madpilot> good thing I kept both drives... was going to ditch the CDROM
[09:34] <Madpilot> hardware is indeed fun
[09:35] <ajmitch> yay
[09:35] <ajmitch> finally I get..
[09:35] <ajmitch> cdrecord: CD/DVD-Recorder not ready.
[09:35] <ajmitch> it was because I tried using hdparm on the old cd write, I swear
[09:36] <rob^> go the dragon
[09:37] <rob^> hey has anyone checked out the adept user guide spec?
[09:37] <rob^> it reads too much like what the spec for the Kubuntu FAQ Guide should read for my liking..
[09:38] <rob^> total dupe of effort since we already have kudos as well
[09:42] <rob^> Seveas, you around?
[11:20] <Seveas> rob^, yes
[11:32] <rob^> Seveas, I do want to be part of the cc, but the meetings are usually on at 8am my time (I'm at work)
[11:32] <Seveas> rob^, next week will be different
[11:32] <Seveas> there will be a special forums meeting and i want to sneak in your membership 
[11:33] <rob^> oh
[11:33] <rob^> when is it on?
[11:33] <spayne> who here is from Wiki team?
[11:33] <spayne> hey Seveas 
[11:33] <mdke> spayne, what's up
[11:33] <Seveas> will 03:00 UTC work for you?
[11:33] <spayne> mdke: i'd like to join the Wiki team :)
[11:33] <rob^> depends what day
[11:34] <mdke> spayne, right
[11:34] <Seveas> rob^, wednesday?
[11:34] <rob^> 0300 UTC is 1pm here, also at work :(
[11:34] <Seveas> rob^, where are you?
[11:34] <rob^> east coast of Australia
[11:35] <Seveas> what times would work for you on wednesday/thursday next week?
[11:35] <mdke> spayne, there is no real barrier to entry on the wiki, just read all the docs and get to know the software
[11:36] <rob^> any time after 0700 UTC either day
[11:36] <mdke> spayne, it is not necessary to join a team as such at the moment, because everyone on the wiki has the same rights
[11:36] <mdke> spayne, but feel free to join the LP team if you want. Read the WikiGuide WikiTeam pages
[11:37] <spayne> mdke: will do - thanks
[11:37] <Madpilot> spayne: also join the ubuntu-doc mailing list, if you haven't already. It's also the wiki discussion list, really...
[11:38] <mdke> joining the LP team as such doesn't actually mean anything
[11:39] <rob^> Seveas, but before 1600 UTC at the latest
[11:40] <rob^> (which is like 2am)
[11:40] <spayne> Madpilot: done!
[11:55] <rob^> mdke you still around?
[11:56] <mdke> yeah
[11:56] <rob^> just regarding the userguide, have you looked at the xfce userguide at all? (the way they do it)
[11:57] <rob^> basically the userguide is a simple overview and a few other things, the sections are written by others
[11:57] <rob^> there is a "user guide" and "manuals"
[11:57] <rob^> http://www.loculus.nl/xfce/documentation/docs-4.2/
[11:57] <mdke> i'll look
[11:58] <mdke> ok, but they don't have a StarterGuide
[11:58] <mdke> for us, I see overlap as a MAJOR issue
[11:58] <rob^> it is
[11:58] <mdke> hence my suggestion 3
[11:58] <rob^> see my comment on UserGuide
[11:59] <mdke> ok so you would faviour my suggestion 1
[11:59] <rob^> if we choose to keep the userguide (just say), the way xfce do it would be easier to do then trying to write one massive document
[11:59] <mdke> i think that is gonna be pretty hard
[12:00] <rob^> I can't say suggestion 1 as I'm not the one contributing to it
[12:00] <mdke> sure
[12:00] <rob^> from where I sit suggestion three would be better
[12:00] <mdke> my problem with suggestion 1 is not the contribution, it's the theoretical difficulty of finding a dividing line and applying it
[12:00] <mdke> the userguide and starterguide would have to continuous interlink
[12:01] <rob^> it would be easier to scrap the user guide and make the faq guide the userguide (with much work)
[12:01] <mdke> well, now you're getting into semantics ;)
[12:02] <mdke> that is still suggestion 3 :)
[12:02] <rob^> i just made the other suggestion as I'm sure there will be people who are in love with the userguide but dont contribute :P
[12:02] <mdke> heh
[12:03] <rob^> ok, well I'm happy with nr 3
[12:04] <mdke> looks like jerome is too
[12:05] <rob^> well thats all three of us ;)
[12:05] <mdke> btw rob^ there is a thread on the forum about Unofficial versus Official guide
[12:05] <rob^> oh
[12:05] <rob^> I don't frequent the forums much, got a link?
[12:06] <mdke> yeah
[12:07] <mdke> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=444162
[12:08] <mdke> sorry that is not the top
[12:08] <rob^> yeah
[12:13] <Madpilot> the forums have even more silly crap and bad advice on them than #ubuntu ever does...
[12:13] <rob^> heh yeah I bet
[12:31] <Belutz> hello all
[12:31] <Belutz> i'm confuse when translating the faqguide
[12:31] <rob^> hi Belutz 
[12:31] <rob^> whats the problem your having?
[12:32] <Belutz> when i'm translating the faqguide, should i presume that the user is using ubuntu in my language, or presume that the user is using ubuntu in english? because the menu names is different
[12:32] <rob^> off the top of my head I'd say your language, mdke?
[12:33] <mdke> me too
[12:35] <Belutz> ok then
[12:35] <Belutz> :)
[12:35] <Belutz> are there anything i could do for the doc team, instead just translating it?
[12:38] <rob^> there is always the wiki
[12:38] <rob^> we are always needing help there!
[12:39] <Belutz> ok :)
[12:39] <rob^> if your into xml/docbook at all you can also check out our subversion repository
[12:39] <Belutz> may i ask about the rosetta in here?
[12:39] <mdke> in #launchpad
[12:40] <mdke> for docteam contributions, check out doc.ubuntu.com
[12:40] <Belutz> well, i've been thinking to make a book of ubuntu in my language
[12:46] <mdke> cool
[12:46] <mdke> but it is even cooler if you help on the English docs, so they can be made available in all languages!
[12:47] <Belutz> yes, i will help too, i'll be learning about the docbook
[12:48] <mdke> great
[12:48] <Belutz> i love ubuntu, and i have to contribute something to what i love
[12:49] <mdke> :)
[12:50] <bhuvan> this is regarding rss for w.u.c/RecentChanges. i've a suggestion. shall we discuss here ?
[12:53] <mdke> bhuvan, what is the suggestion?
[12:55] <bhuvan> how about including rss link in our RecentChanges page with 'link' html tag. it'd help firefox users in big extent
[12:55] <rob^> mdke, I replied to that thread
[12:56] <bhuvan> something similar to the one we have at, http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/RecentChanges
[12:57] <mdke> bhuvan, i don't think that our wiki supports rss
[12:57] <bhuvan> it is!
[12:57] <bhuvan> just try, RecentChanges?type=rss_rc
[12:58] <bhuvan> s/type/action
[12:58] <mdke> oh cool
[12:58] <bhuvan> :)
[12:59] <mdke> how do we enable it?
[12:59] <bhuvan> enable, it's fine if we make changes to the script which renders RecentChanges page
[01:00] <bhuvan> if you see the source code of http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/RecentChanges, there's a link tag. we can have something similar over here
[01:00] <mdke> yes
[01:02] <rob^> mdke, whats with #57 on this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=440049
[01:03] <rob^> "The New User Literature Project of the Ubuntu Marketing Team has created in brainstorm a scheme of guide-building inspired by the Unofficial Ubuntu Starter Guide"
[01:03] <rob^> what the heck?
[01:03] <mdke> no idea
[01:03] <rob^> talk about stoming on the docteams toes
[01:04] <rob^> s/stoming/stomping
[01:05] <mdke> that happens all the time, no worries
[01:06] <rob^> who the heck are ubuntupeople anyway?
[01:06] <mdke> no idea
[01:10] <Belutz> they say they are the marketing team
[01:10] <mpt> http://www.ubuntupeople.com/file/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17
[01:10] <rob^> yeah just read that
[01:11] <mpt> bbl, gotta conserve RAM...
[01:11] <rob^> do these people even know whats happening in the ubuntu community or what?
[01:11] <rob^> wackos
[01:11] <ajmitch> often the way
[01:11] <ajmitch> people get enthusiastic about something but don't think to work with the established community
[01:11] <Belutz> rob^, mdke, the docbook you're using are XML right? not SGML?
[01:12] <mdke> that is correct
[01:12] <mdke> rob^, no cause for concern
[01:13] <rob^> no I'm not concerned, just dumbfounded
[01:13] <Belutz> ok
[01:13] <rob^> alright, I'm going to bed, night mdke, ajmitch 
[01:13] <ajmitch> night
[01:14] <Belutz> nite nite rob^ 
[01:14] <Belutz> nite nite ajmitch 
[01:47] <jsgotangco> hi
[01:47] <mdke> hey jerome
[01:49] <jsgotangco> hey mdke :)
[01:58] <jsgotangco> ADEPT ROCKS
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:00] <jsgotangco> hehe
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> what did you just do? or is this a general revelation?
[02:15] <jsgotangco> hehe
[02:15] <jsgotangco> i decided to punish (reward?) myself by committing to doing Kubuntu for dapper FULL TIME
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:35] <mdke> full time?
[02:35] <mdke> what about work?
[02:43] <Seveas> dos anyone have the e-mailaddress of rob^?
[02:43] <mdke> sure, he uses it on the mailing list
[02:43] <Seveas> ah of course
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[02:53] <jsgotangco> mdke: i meant full time kubuntu in my spare time :)
[02:53] <jsgotangco> heheh
[02:53] <mdke> ;)
[02:54] <jsgotangco> i don't think Riddell has the budget to pay for slackers like me
[02:56] <jsgotangco> hello jjesse 
[02:56] <jsgotangco> :)
[02:56] <jjesse> morning jsgotangco 
[03:02] <Lathiat> bing!
[03:02] <mdke> hi
[03:02] <mdke> read the spec?
[03:03] <Lathiat> reaidng now
[03:03] <Lathiat> brb
[03:21] <mdke> hey bob2 
[03:21] <mdke> which problem were you concerned has no evidence?
[03:31] <jjesse> mdke what was the spec for user guide? on the wiki
[03:32] <mdke> UserGuide, but there is not much there
[03:33] <mdke> bob2?
[03:34] <mdke> i added an example to the first bullet point, but would be interested in any improvements you might suggest
[04:02] <judax> mornin
[04:08] <jjesse> moring judax
[04:08] <judax> hi jjesse 
[04:16] <mdke> rob^, i think I know why those xincludes aren't working, it must be because they are outside chapters. Inserting them into a chapter however screws up the dtd... so I can't think of any solution
[04:30] <jsgotangco> are we still in branch?
[04:33] <mdke> yeah /me peers at jbailey 
[04:39] <jjesse> kubuntu docs should be merged back into trunk per Riddell 
[04:39] <jjesse> Riddell: have you applied the kubuntu stylesheet to userguide yet?
[04:50] <jsgotangco> jjesse: awesome
[05:31] <jsgotangco> hehe i added an emblem to the lp doc team
[05:31] <mdke> nice
[05:32] <mdke> we need a hackergotchi now
[05:36] <jsgotangco> yeah
[05:36] <jsgotangco> hehe
[05:36] <jsgotangco> hmm
[05:37] <jsgotangco> is sean quinn still active?
[05:39] <mdke> i still maintain he has never committed
[05:39] <jsgotangco> deactivate?
[05:40] <jsgotangco> we'll see if he complains :)
[05:40] <mdke> you can always reactivate if he does something
[05:40] <jsgotangco> yeah
[05:42] <jsgotangco> i have 9 proposed members but i have no idea who these people are
[05:42] <jsgotangco> i guess i have to email them :)
[05:44] <mdke> i know who some of them are
[05:44] <mdke> but none of em have commit access
[05:52] <mdke> jbailey, did you get anywhere on the merge?
[05:53] <mdke> perhaps we can do something?
[06:24] <jsgotangco> mdke: it would be nice to have a doc like the starter guide link to UserDocumentation it has been improving a lot
[06:24] <mdke> agreed
[06:26] <mdke> we need that merge
[06:29] <mdke> i wonder if all it takes is a bit of copy and pasting
[06:32] <mdke> jbailey!!
[06:35] <jsgotangco> sure its copy and pasting and making sure the entities *work*
[06:40] <mdke> well isn't that quite easy?
[06:41] <jsgotangco> well sure but i'd like to see the stuff that jbailey planned in the first place
[06:42] <mdke> me too
[06:42] <jsgotangco> oh well
[06:42] <jsgotangco> i gotta sleep
[06:42] <jsgotangco> its past 1
[06:42] <jsgotangco> hehe
[06:42] <jsgotangco> later
[08:13] <mdke> anyone know how to insert some html code into the top of the faqguide html when I build it?
[09:54] <linuxboy> hi
[09:54] <linuxboy> I got a question about a wiki doc
[09:54] <linuxboy> can I ask it here
[09:56] <mdke> sure
[09:58] <spayne> linuxboy: ogra is the edubuntu guy - he may be able to help
[09:58] <linuxboy> I have a bunch of ubuntu pcs at work, which I manage. I use things like 'dsh' to do so. Is there a wiki page/doc all about managing muliple ubuntu pcs in a office situation?
[09:58] <linuxboy> hes not here
[09:58] <mdke> linuxboy, the best you can do is to use the search
[09:58] <mdke> edubuntu uses ltsp, that's not what you want right?
[09:58] <linuxboy> mdke: what do i search for?
[09:58] <linuxboy> mdke: no
[09:58] <linuxboy> spayne: he work with highvoltage ?
[09:59] <spayne> linuxboy: not sure but i know ogra is the main man for edubuntu
[09:59] <mdke> they work on related projects
[10:00] <linuxboy> spayne: but its not edubuntu
[10:00] <linuxboy> its a bunch of normal ubuntu pcs
[10:00] <linuxboy> but I want this doc to have tips like "dsh"
[10:00] <linuxboy> if it doesn't exist, I'll start it
[10:01] <spayne> linuxboy: go for it!
[10:01] <linuxboy> spayne: any ideas for a name?
[10:01] <spayne> linuxboy: how about
[10:01] <linuxboy> ManagingMultipleUbuntuPCs ?
[10:01] <spayne> UbuntuOffice
[10:02] <linuxboy> mdke: what do you think?
[10:02] <spayne> UbuntuOfficeEnvrionment
[10:03] <mdke> linuxboy, anything you like
[10:03] <linuxboy> well...
[10:03] <linuxboy> UbuntuOfficeEnvrionment is too specific
[10:03] <linuxboy> and ManagingMultipleUbuntuPCs is too long
[10:03] <mdke> cut the "ubuntu"
[10:03] <spayne> linuxboy: how about ManagingMultiplePCs
[10:03] <spayne> mdke:  :)
[10:03] <linuxboy> cool
[10:03] <mdke> linuxboy, check out the page WikiGuide for help on editing and rules for guides
[10:04] <spayne> mdke: Wiki people like me and mdke will check it out
[10:04] <spayne> whoops!
[10:04] <spayne> that was meant for linuxboy
[10:05] <linuxboy> heh
[10:05] <linuxboy> what wiki does ubuntu use?
[10:06] <linuxboy> well
[10:06] <mdke> moinmoin
[10:06] <linuxboy> ok
[10:06] <linuxboy> never used that
[10:06] <mdke> :)
[10:06] <linuxboy> I've used mediawiki
[10:07] <mdke> this is quite simple too
[10:07] <mdke> that guide page should help a bit
[10:07] <linuxboy> cool
[10:07] <mdke> and point you towards more comprehensive docs if you need em
[10:07] <linuxboy> now, have I created an account?
[10:07] <mdke> :)
[10:07] <linuxboy> I'm not sure
[10:07] <mdke> if not, now is the time
[10:07] <mdke> search for your name at https://launchpad.net/people
[10:08] <linuxboy> I'm busy remotly upgrading an ubuntu pc
[10:10] <linuxboy> I have registered
[10:11] <linuxboy> oh, hi highvoltage 
[10:11] <highvoltage> hi linuxboy 
[10:11] <linuxboy> didn't see you there
[10:11] <highvoltage> where?
[10:12] <linuxboy> so, I've now got my password
[10:12] <highvoltage> oh. here.
[10:12] <linuxboy> whats my username?
[10:12] <highvoltage> your e-mail address, i think
[10:12] <linuxboy> ah
[10:12] <linuxboy> that would make sense
[10:14] <linuxboy> how the heck do I create a new page?
[10:14] <linuxboy> visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManagingMultiplePCs?action=edit
[10:14] <linuxboy> I assume?
[10:14] <highvoltage> type https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThisIsNewPage in URL
[10:15] <highvoltage> yep
[10:15] <linuxboy> then?
[10:15] <linuxboy> wheres the edit button like mediawiki?
[10:15] <highvoltage> you click on "Create new empty page"
[10:16] <linuxboy> You are not allowed to edit this page.
[10:16] <highvoltage> what i do with moinmoin, is go to my UserPreferences,
[10:16] <highvoltage> and choose the option that double-click means edit.
[10:16] <highvoltage> then i just double-click on the pages to edit them.
[10:17] <linuxboy> where is UserPreferences ?
[10:17] <highvoltage> i have edubuntu skin... let me just switch...
[10:17] <linuxboy> ah
[10:17] <spayne> linuxboy: have you logged in?
[10:17] <linuxboy> found it
[10:17] <spayne> :)
[10:21] <mpt> MoinMoin's login process is a bit poor
[10:21] <mpt> you have to log in, then click Back twice, then click Reload
[10:23] <mdke> yeah that blows
[10:23] <linuxboy> heh
[10:23] <mdke> not like launchpad :)
[10:23] <linuxboy> I don't like moinmoni
[10:23] <linuxboy> moinmoin
[10:23] <mdke> i do :)
[10:23] <highvoltage> moinmoin is okay, but it takes getting used to.
[10:23] <mdke> give it a chance
[10:24] <highvoltage> people tend to have difficulty going from moinmoin to mediawiki or vice versa.
[10:24] <linuxboy> Thank you for your changes. Your attention to detail is appreciated.
[10:24] <linuxboy> Status of sending notification mails:
[10:24] <linuxboy> [en]  JeromeGotangco, DanielHolbach2, DanielRobitaille, JonathanRiddell, AndrewMitchell: Mail sent OK
[10:24] <judax> just added kde/adeptguide with first-pass skel of a doc and screenshots, etc.
[10:24] <linuxboy> 
[10:24] <linuxboy> heh
[10:24] <linuxboy> they will see the crap I wrote
[10:25] <mdke> you didn't insert a COMMENT!!
[10:25] <mdke> you must die
[10:25] <highvoltage> hehe
[10:25] <linuxboy> I'll read the rules *after* I've broken them
[10:25] <mdke> it says to insert a comment on the WikiGuide
[10:26] <mdke> if we succeed in moving the wiki documentation, we'll have to hack moin and make that mandatory :)
[10:28] <jjesse> judax: just saw the adeptguide stuff that rocks
[10:28] <judax> jjesse: thx, very early, but it is a start
[10:29] <mdke> oof nice work
[10:29] <mdke> we should have that contribution stuff in a separate page though
[10:31] <mdke> omg i was just looking at the spec, now I see there is a doc already too!
[10:31] <mdke> like judax 
[10:31] <mdke> like/nice
[10:31] <judax> hehe, thx
[10:32] <jjesse> hey kubuntu docs are quick now :)
[10:33] <judax> kubuntu rocks!
[10:34] <linuxboy> night guys
[10:34] <judax> night linuxboy 
[10:34] <linuxboy> I'll add real content to my wiki tomorrow
[10:34] <mdke> nite and welcome
[10:34] <linuxboy> if I get a chance
[11:22] <judax> just found an open-box mac mini at the store for cheap-cheap, looks like it is time for kubuntu ppc
[11:47] <spayne> night all
[11:47] <spayne> judax: i just bought a Mac Mini - it is sweet ass!
[11:48] <spayne> judax: i have it dual booting between OS X and Ubuntu
[11:48] <spayne> http://www.evolutionconsultancy.com/~spayne/photos/CD-Macs.jpg
[11:48] <judax> spayne: cool, I am glad I got it!
[11:48] <spayne> http://www.evolutionconsultancy.com/~spayne/photos/SebFace.jpg
[11:48] <spayne> http://www.evolutionconsultancy.com/~spayne/photos/SebMac.jpg