[12:00] <Stormx2> ubuntu is like debian with all the differculty taken out...
[12:00] <izigo> not a good idea if you never used it.. and if its new.
[12:00] <izigo> lol
[12:00] <izigo> ok
[12:00] <izigo> that sounds good though
[12:00] <apokryphos> Ropechoborra: if you make a new user, you'll have to add them to the sudoers list for them to have sudo powers
[12:00] <izigo> :D
[12:00] <_native_> Stormx2,  IT IS for sure i just hope that usabiltiy dose not make us less secure like microcrap
[12:00] <jonny_> hey, cyphase, you here
[12:00] <phiqtion> tarheelcoxn, will i lose my gnome desktop?
[12:00] <Ropechoborra> apokryphos how is that?
[12:00] <Stormx2> _native_: Not at all
[12:00] <izigo> _native_ thats impossible :D
[12:00] <apokryphos> phiqtion: no
[12:00] <tarheelcoxn> phiqtion: no
[12:00] <apokryphos> Ropechoborra: how do you do it, you mean?
[12:00] <MojOrow_> how do i check what processes are running in bash
[12:00] <iiiears> ps -A
[12:00] <gnomefreak> i dont know about anyone else but i find ubuntu more stable than alot of other distros
[12:00] <thrush> apokryphos: couldnt u just add them to admin group?
[12:01] <apokryphos> Ropechoborra: sudo adduser $username admin
[12:01] <Ropechoborra> Oh sorry the Bell is ringin Ill be right back
[12:01] <iiiears> ps -aux
[12:01] <Ropechoborra> Oh sorry the Bell is ringin Ill be right back
[12:01] <apokryphos> thrush: same thing
[12:01] <Stormx2> MojOrow_: There are visual tools in gnome...
[12:01] <racookier> sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop (Error)
[12:01] <WarmFreeze> does ubuntu support multiple processors?
[12:01] <phiqtion> tarheelcoxn, will my login screen change?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:01] <gimmulf_> What setting in gmplayer is it that makes the size of video expand when expanding the video window?
[12:01] <nalioth> racookier: it's apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:01] <Elsan> topyli: I think I'll just reinstall....
[12:01] <Stormx2> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:01] <iiiears> yes it can add the smp kernel
[12:01] <racookier> ok
[12:01] <MojOrow_> Stormx2,  well whata re they called?
[12:01] <tarheelcoxn> phiqtion: if you choose gdm as the default, no
[12:01] <_native_> im mean always think is this secure when programming not "just get it to work"
[12:02] <Stormx2> MojOrow_: System Monitor
[12:02] <MojOrow_> i still need to know i am trying to onvert to a guiuless version of lin
[12:02] <Stormx2> Applications > System Tools > System Monitor
[12:02] <phiqtion> tarheelcoxn, then in gdm i select if i want kde or gnome?
[12:02] <racookier> thanks
[12:02] <Ropechoborra> Im here ! :)
[12:02] <tarheelcoxn> phiqtion: there is a "sessions" menu
[12:02] <zblach> ah yes, 3) mounting fat32 partitiosn properly
[12:02] <Stormx2> You're here!
[12:02] <WarmFreeze> lol
[12:02] <gnomefreak> MojOrow_, you want full text linux?
[12:02] <Ropechoborra> apokryphos so you where telling me sudo adduser $username admin  Admin ?? What goes in there?
[12:02] <vbgunz_> Is Rhythmbox very unstable for anyone here?
[12:03] <Stormx2> !mounting
[12:03] <ubotu> Not a clue, Stormx2
[12:03] <jonny_> how do you force quit?
[12:03] <phiqtion> tarheelcoxn, nice, its 400mb tho. im downloading..
[12:03] <tarheelcoxn> phiqtion: KDE and gnome should both be choices
[12:03] <racookier> where can i find a list of the packages for ubuntu (i was tring to install kde-desktop not kubuntu-desktop)
[12:03] <tarheelcoxn> phiqtion: yeah... KDE is big
[12:03] <nalioth> racookier: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:03] <KurtKraut> racookier, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:03] <gnomefreak> racookier, synaptic
[12:03] <thrush> jonny_: you mean shutdown or kill process?
[12:03] <apokryphos> Ropechoborra: sudo adduser nickname admin.  The only thing you have to alter is "username" -- place in the username that you want to have sudo powers
[12:03] <Stormx2> racookier: System > Administration > Synaptic
[12:03] <jonny_> kill
[12:03] <racookier> ok thanks
[12:03] <Stormx2> lol
[12:03] <vbgunz_> in regards to streaming music, Rhythbox tends to crash on my system... Is it like this for anyone else?
[12:03] <WarmFreeze> can anyone answer a qustion for me ?
[12:03] <SteveKerr> does anyone know of a package/program i can download that runs like itunes?
[12:03] <apokryphos> WarmFreeze: not if you don't state it
[12:04] <Blake_Seven> how do I launch Gnome in PuTTY ?
[12:04] <phiqtion> tarheelcoxn, thanks for you're help
[12:04] <WarmFreeze> obvesouly ..
[12:04] <WarmFreeze> lol
[12:04] <jonny_> WarmFreeze : what is it?
[12:04] <apokryphos> SteveKerr: in what way? Syncing with the ipod?
[12:04] <Stormx2> WarmFreeze: What was it again?
[12:04] <Ropechoborra> apokryphos I will also got the admin powers in visual mode?
[12:04] <apokryphos> Ropechoborra: no
[12:04] <tarheelcoxn> phiqtion: np
[12:04] <apokryphos> Ropechoborra: why do you want them?
[12:04] <SteveKerr> apokryphos, yeah...to be able to transfer to and from it
[12:04] <thrush> jonny_: you can type ps -A, then 'kill 3423' 3423 if the pid # u got from ps command or just type pkill firefox for example
[12:04] <WarmFreeze> i was wondaring ..i installed ubuntu on a dual xeon system ..it only sees one proc ..
[12:04] <jonny_> ok
[12:04] <Ropechoborra> apokryphos for eg. If i want to create a folder in a place that only root can...
[12:04] <apokryphos> SteveKerr: gtkpod can transfer/sync to it, but iPod is more like iTunes in the sense it handles collections/playlists etc too
[12:04] <WarmFreeze> is there any way i can use multiple processors on ubuntu ??
[12:05] <apokryphos> SteveKerr: and the new amaroK debs are just out =)
[12:05] <lorenzod> Blake_Seven: you don't
[12:05] <Stormx2> !processers
[12:05] <ubotu> Stormx2: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:05] <apokryphos> Ropechoborra: you can launch nautilus as superuser
[12:05] <Stormx2> yes :(
[12:05] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:05] <SteveKerr> sweet, thanks apokryphos
[12:05] <Stormx2> gksudo nautilus
[12:05] <Ropechoborra> nautilus ?
[12:05] <matw> Ropechoborra, do a server install, no frills, later install x-window-system-core and gnome-terminal
[12:05] <florent_> hi everybody
[12:05] <Stormx2> File Manager
[12:05] <Ropechoborra> whats that?
[12:05] <Stormx2> hey, florent_
[12:05] <tarheelcoxn> Ropechoborra: nautilus is the gnome file manager
[12:05] <cevizoglu> Ropechoborra, that's the file browser
[12:05] <iiiears> WarmFreeze, - wouldn't installing an smp kernel enable dual processor support?
[12:05] <florent_> I try to build a custom kernel based on the deb source
[12:05] <WarmFreeze> im guessing that would be a no ..or ..i dont know ..or i dont care enough to answer..
[12:06] <blUdninjuh> Hi I am new to Ubuntu!!!1 How do I keep all these games I am installing(with synaptic from the universe and multiverse... whatever that means) from hacking my computer?
[12:06] <trans_err> has anyone set up a hauppauge remote up in ubuntu that would care to give me a few pointers?
[12:06] <matw> Ropechoborra, That gets you a minimal X desktope without the gnome display manager
[12:06] <gnomefreak> isnt there a program in synaptic that will run duel proccessors?
[12:06] <apokryphos> Ropechoborra: Alt+f2 -> gksudo nautilus
[12:06] <WarmFreeze> how do i installed SMP kernal ?
[12:06] <florent_> just to add a dpatch
[12:06] <vbgunz_> matw, installing Ubuntu in that fashion results in what?
[12:06] <WarmFreeze> install*
[12:06] <jonny_> warmfreeze: yougotta nice computer!
[12:06] <lorenzod> There should be a way to slap ubotu..
[12:06] <tarheelcoxn> WarmFreeze: look at the linux-image packages
[12:06] <WarmFreeze> rockon
[12:06] <florent_> and I have an error saying abiname is missing
[12:06] <WarmFreeze> lol
[12:06] <jonny_> yaya
[12:06] <tarheelcoxn> WarmFreeze: if one says it supports your arch, then yes
[12:06] <matw> vbgunz, an X you can get at as root
[12:06] <florent_> does someone know the perfect way to deal with it ?
[12:06] <Ropechoborra> apokryphos so it will let my got sudo powers?
[12:06] <topyli> matw: what's with the gnome-terminal? it depends on too much, why won't xterm do?
[12:06] <vbgunz_> matw, oh
[12:06] <Stormx2> heya sexies
[12:06] <apokryphos> Ropechoborra: let?
[12:07] <aclonedsheep> Hey, where can I get drivers for my ATI radeon 9700 ... laptop card
[12:07] <Ropechoborra> matw thankx for the help but i didnt understand anything =( (just newbie)
[12:07] <WarmFreeze> sorry i havnt effed with linux sence the first fedora core came out O_o..
[12:07] <WarmFreeze> kinda rusty
[12:07] <florent_> can I simply make a mv 2.6.12-9.22 2.6.12-9.23custom in the debian/abi directory ?
[12:07] <Stormx2> ubotu: tell aclonedsheep about laptop
[12:07] <Ropechoborra> apokryphos it isnt said let?
[12:07] <matw> topyli, that's the point. It grabs the desctop, and you can log in as root from console, then # startx
[12:07] <Ropechoborra> =/
[12:07] <vbgunz_> IOs anyone having problems signing into IRC through GAIM?
[12:07] <florent_> unfortunately, it isn't in the WIKI
[12:07] <Stormx2> vbgunz_: Never tried. XChat not your cup of tea?
[12:08] <aclonedsheep> Stormx2, thanks
[12:08] <topyli> matw: oh, if that's what we want. why do we want that by the way? :)
[12:08] <tarheelcoxn> florent_: what are you trying to do?
[12:08] <jonny_> can anyone help? http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3613 stormx2
[12:08] <jonny_> sorry, stormx2 isnt supposed to be there!
[12:08] <matw> Ropechoborra was asking how to get a graphical root.
[12:08] <Stormx2> jonny_: Have you tried "sudo apt-get install realplayer"
[12:08] <Blake_Seven> Can I launch the gui in PuTTY ?
[12:08] <vbgunz_> I am on xchat now... I just like to consolidate my messages into one window and GAIM just doesn't wish to log me in with my handle... Not sure why, but it will log me with any other handle :(
[12:08] <Kovecses> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i3606
[12:08] <gnomefreak> vbgunz_, i use xchat lostirc and bitchx i will never use gaim for irc its too weird for me
[12:08] <florent_> and it's funny cause the current kernel is 2.6.12.23 and the abiname is in a directory 2.6.12.22.... I wonder how Ubuntu folks managed to compile it without problem
[12:09] <lorenzod> Blake_Seven: use vnc for that..
[12:09] <Ropechoborra> apokryphos matw tarheelcoxn cevizoglu Stormx2 KurtKraut  Thanks for the help, ill be going now.. ! :)
[12:09] <topyli> matw: Ropechoborra: don't do it, it's evil
[12:09] <foxgamer> Hi all. I don't seem to be able to use ./ to load programs since I re-installed this morning. Any ideas what I need?
[12:09] <florent_> tarheelcoxn : I have a problem with my soundcard snd-hda-intel that doesn't work and freeze hotplug at boot
[12:09] <Stormx2> Ropechoborra: No prob
[12:09] <Ropechoborra> ?
[12:09] <Blake_Seven> can I set up that remotly I am in an airport?
[12:09] <jonny_> thats what runs the instsaller, then it asks me where the file is located and I have no idea what the installer is
[12:09] <vbgunz_> xchat is good and I started on IRC with it on Ubuntu... I am just curious as to why it stopped on GAIM for no apparent reason... I can't figure it out and really dislike it when that happens :P
[12:09] <jonny_> where*
[12:09] <gnomefreak> <<was just at airport :(
[12:09] <florent_> I have tried a 2.6.2.22 deb kernel package patched by a guy but it's for 386
[12:10] <Stormx2> Hack those planes ^_^
[12:10] <matw> topyli, I guess it depends on your definition of evil. ;)
[12:10] <gnomefreak> vbgunz_,  there is a plug in for gaim to allow you to connect to irc
[12:10] <blUdninjuh> I'm installin all of the games I see ^ . ^
[12:10] <florent_> so I want to recompile a 2.6.2 kernel deb package for 686 and with the latest security fix so a .23custom one
[12:10] <Blake_Seven> sorry I missed you ;->
[12:10] <vbgunz_> anyone here using some like Amarok *but* made for Gnome? I tried Banshee and it is OK *but* I couldn't find any support for streaming audio...
[12:11] <vbgunz_> gnomefreak, I can connect to IRC from GAIM now. Just trying to connect to it with the name I've been using on it for over a month no longer works... I don't understand...
[12:11] <tarheelcoxn> florent_: wish I could help you
[12:11] <trans_err> vbgunz_: rhythmbox is okay, but amarok is my fav (and if you use the gtk->qt theme you can have everything in one uniform look)
[12:11] <thrush> vbgunz_: webradio and such?
[12:11] <vbgunz_> trans_err, yeah, how do I get Amarok to look like a Gnome application?
[12:12] <jonny_> is that multimedia player called beepplayer?
[12:12] <topyli> vbgunz_: yeah, banshee would be the music player to end all music player if it had streaming support
[12:12] <_mattt> can anyone tell me how to access the applications in the top gnome menu without a mouse?  :)  my touchpad has died on my laptop.
[12:12] <gnomefreak> is there a command to leave a channel or im/pm?
[12:12] <blUdninjuh> How do I install all of the games I can from Synaptic more quickly than clicking a bunch of boxes?  This is BORING :\
[12:12] <vbgunz_> thrush, Rhythmbox plays streaming audio just fine... Just if the connection goes out, it seems to crash Rhythmbox...
[12:12] <Stormx2> blUdninjuh: There may be a "games" package
[12:12] <Blake_Seven> can someone Help me set up vnc server thru puTTY ?
[12:12] <Stormx2> blUdninjuh: No wait. Applications > Add applications
[12:12] <thrush> vbgunz_: i had alot of problems over wifi with rythmbox..
[12:12] <vbgunz_> topyli, I liked banshee but uninstalled it because without streaming support its just another player to me...
[12:13] <WarmFreeze> awe man ..installd 686 SMP kernal ..system dumps ...oh well
[12:13] <_jason> _mattt:  alt+f1 is the default shortcut
[12:13] <roe> anyone have any luck getting dvdrip to work without mplayer installed?
[12:13] <WarmFreeze> guess ubuntu is pants for SMP support ..
[12:13] <vbgunz_> thrush, yeah I am on wireless and believe when my connection drops out, rhythmbox doesn't handle it gracefully
[12:13] <topyli> vbgunz_: also, it insists on creating a directory called "My Music" in your home dir. very lame
[12:13] <_mattt> _jason:  that did it, thanks :)
[12:13] <vbgunz_> topyli, yup, I saw that and deleted it after uninstall :P
[12:14] <vbgunz_> hey, trans_err can you make amarok look like a native gnome application? That would rock...
[12:14] <topyli> vbgunz_: for now, i'm sticking with rhythmbox
[12:14] <blUdninjuh> Stormx2, There are 602 packages I want to install...
[12:14] <WarmFreeze> anyone else have a multi processor machene and using ubuntu ??
[12:14] <jonny_> can you make synaptic sort alphebeticly?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> jonny it is already
[12:15] <vbgunz_> thrush, so, it seems Rhythmbox does indeed crash or freeze hard on a wifi connection if the connect drops out?
[12:15] <florent_> any kernel expert there ?
[12:15] <vbgunz_> topyli, I really like rhythmbox and it is simple... I just have a problem with it crashing overmy faulty wifi connection
[12:15] <foxgamer> jonny_, click on the column headers, each one will sort for you.
[12:15] <florent_> or better, a kernel expert for a stock ubuntu kernel package ?
[12:15] <Blake_Seven> WarmFreeze: I am a Dell 2500 dual processor  raid controller
[12:15] <thrush> vbgunz_: yes i had alot or problems could not find a solution ended up using xmms
[12:15] <jonny_> im sorry, I mean instead of categories, sort packages?
[12:15] <topyli> vbgunz_: fix your wifi :)
[12:15] <vbgunz_> rhythmbox just stopped and is frozen
[12:16] <WarmFreeze> Blake_Seven..does it even see your second proc??
[12:16] <thrush> vbgunz_: streamtuner and xmms good stuff imho
[12:17] <Blake_Seven> not sure I am still learning linux..
[12:17] <Stormx2> jonny_: Use "all"
[12:17] <hyperz> is Debian a good distro for "gaming" or running windows apps ?
[12:17] <hyperz> that
[12:17] <Stormx2> Ubuntu is debian based
[12:17] <hyperz> i know
[12:17] <Stormx2> And I can run a lot of windows apps using WINE
[12:17] <racookier> I install ubuntu from cd, but don't aks for superuser password, so the system start without superuser
[12:17] <topyli> thrush: i used xmms for a couple of hundred years. but its playlist approach is just old. and the gui sucks
[12:17] <Blake_Seven> WarmFreeze: How do I tell ?
[12:17] <Stormx2> As for gaming, that can be more tricky
[12:17] <roe> any distro is good for running that stuff if you can set it up
[12:17] <iiiears> hyperz - Cedega emulation makes most games playable.
[12:17] <rjwittams> Has totem embedded in firefox ever actually worked? I always get "No URI handler implemented for "fd://0" ".
[12:18] <Stormx2> topyli: Use BMP. Its XMMS but with gtk2
[12:18] <Amaranth> !tell racookier about sudo
[12:18] <WarmFreeze> lol i dont know ..im a noob myself
[12:18] <hyperz> but there is olso "pure"debian
[12:18] <vbgunz_> topyli, y9uo wanna hear something funny... Windows drivers are real garbage *but* Linux has far better driver support for my wifi... nice...
[12:18] <topyli> Stormx2: doesn't help with the design :(
[12:18] <ajeet> hello, what package do i need to download to get windows fonts in ubuntu?
[12:18] <roe> if your a noob stick with ubunto, debian can be for the heavy hearted
[12:18] <WarmFreeze> i looked in system moniter ..seemed like it was running on 1 processor
[12:18] <jonny_> whats the difference between beep-media-player and beep-media-player-dap?
[12:18] <Stormx2> topyli: Well, what does it lack?
[12:18] <jonny_> *dev
[12:18] <to2> bye and good night!
[12:18] <apokryphos> ajeet: msttcorefonts
[12:18] <ajeet> thanks
[12:18] <racookier> I install ubuntu from cd, but don't ask for root password, so the system start without superuser
[12:19] <apokryphos> !tell racookier about root
[12:19] <Stormx2> jonny_: dev is the developement package. Only use it if you want to develop plugins for BMP
[12:19] <vbgunz_> I just want a player that looks good... Amarok, turned me off because it just seems out of place although it looks ggreat in the screenshots, on gnome it looks wack... Plus, I couldn't drop a song from one album to another although it belonged to the album...
[12:19] <iiiears> hyperz - you can use pure debian  - i really like pretested apps. - the ubuntu logo usually means it will run.
[12:19] <topyli> Stormx2: i don't want to think about files in directories. rhythmbox presents me with a selection of artists, albums, and well, music generally
[12:19] <jonny_> oh
[12:19] <Stormx2> topyli: True.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> isnt the whole point of running linux outside of being stable to stay away from MSH*T?
[12:19] <Stormx2> topyli: I use BMP cause it is quick, small, equalisers, gtk2, plugins, etc
[12:19] <matw> racookier, in ubuntu much is done with the 'sudo' command
[12:20] <matw> it gives you temporary root access
[12:20] <Stormx2> ubotu: tell racookier about root
[12:20] <vbgunz_> does anyone here know how I can get my nick "vbgunz" back on IRC?
[12:20] <WarmFreeze> su doesnt work in ubuntu ?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> WarmFreeze,  no
[12:20] <topyli> Stormx2: yeah, i want an equalizer. not for rhythmbox, but a small thingy for all of gnome/gstreamer
[12:20] <WarmFreeze> lol
[12:20] <iiiears> vbgunz - ghost
[12:20] <Stormx2> ubotu: tell WarmFreeze about root
[12:20] <gnomefreak> WarmFreeze, sudo, sudo -i, sudo other things too
[12:20] <racookier> ok, will try (but the system will be permanent without root?)
[12:21] <WarmFreeze> whats sudo?
[12:21] <Stormx2> topyli: BMP has an equaliser :) BMP is basicly Winamp 2
[12:21] <apokryphos> vbgunz_: /msg nickserv ghost username password
[12:21] <gnomefreak> sudo=super user
[12:21] <Stormx2> Super User DO
[12:21] <matw> WarmFreeze, you can add a root account, I saw it on the ubuntu wiki somewhere
[12:21] <gnomefreak> +do
[12:21] <Stormx2> NOT ADVISABLE!
[12:21] <WarmFreeze> roger that ..O_o
[12:21] <Blake_Seven> sudo passwd root
[12:21] <topyli> Stormx2: i know it does. so does mplayer, another user interface i don't very much like :)
[12:21] <Viper550> Hello, you may have remembered me on ubuntu-art mailing list, now I'm live from Ubuntu 5.10!
[12:21] <Stormx2> Bad idea!
[12:21] <Stormx2> Bad idea!
[12:21] <apokryphos> matw: not that you should....
[12:21] <apokryphos> ok ok
[12:21] <WarmFreeze> ubuntu is still one of the strangest destros ever ..
[12:22] <gnomefreak> congrats viper550
[12:22] <apokryphos> WarmFreeze: why?
[12:22] <jonny_> at the top it says "yeah, dapper exists now" is this true?
[12:22] <dooglus> sudo == "substitute user do"
[12:22] <Viper550> I don't think it's strange
[12:22] <WarmFreeze> its just ...different ..
[12:22] <thrush> racookier: when u think about it su'ing takes as much time as sudo.  and u can always sudo -s for a perm root shell
[12:22] <gnomefreak> jonny yes but its empty
[12:22] <apokryphos> WarmFreeze: not *that* different; it's debian-based
[12:22] <Stormx2> dooglus: No. sudo = "Super User DO"
[12:22] <Viper550> Yeah, much better than Fedora Core-Red Hat 9
[12:22] <apokryphos> uses the same package management system etc etc
[12:22] <apokryphos> WarmFreeze: you want strange you should check out Linspire :P
[12:22] <topyli> WarmFreeze: i disabled root on my mandrake and debian boxen long before ubuntu was there
[12:22] <Stormx2> Ubuntu is a hell of a lot easier than fedora
[12:22] <jonny_> so it is still in development and not released yet?
[12:22] <Viper550> he he he, DCC 3!
[12:22] <roe> .deb all the way!!
[12:22] <iiiears> lol@apokryphos
[12:23] <Viper550> apt-get rox!
[12:23] <dooglus> Stormx2: no.  substitute.  it changes to a different user.  sometimes the superuser, sometimes other users.
[12:23] <zooko> Greetings, People of Ubuntu!  How do I get Java running in the Firefox web browser?  And why isn't this information already in wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?
[12:23] <Viper550> or maybe sudo apt-get install rox!
[12:23] <racookier> so, sudo works with any user (normal user)? then scurity?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> jonny: it will be out next year breezy was just released less than a month ago
[12:23] <iiiears> !java
[12:23] <ubotu> java is, like, to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[12:23] <WarmFreeze> lol fedora rocked .. it was still command line ..lmao !!
[12:23] <Stormx2> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=define%3Asudo
[12:23] <vbgunz_> apokryphos, what did that command do exactly? It seemed to have killed it then I got it back...
[12:23] <iiiears> hm - thats not so good.
[12:24] <jonny_> thats what I thought I was confused for a second! it will be out in August right?
[12:24] <dooglus> Stormx2: I imagine it's a common mistake, tes.
[12:24] <apokryphos> vbgunz_: it tells Freenode that it's a ghost user -- one signed in and not being used
[12:24] <gnomefreak> sudo= SU as with other distros and the DO was put in by debian if im not mistaken
[12:24] <vbgunz_> anyhow, thank you apokryphos, that was perfect
[12:24] <Stormx2> dooglus: Or, prehaps, you are the one who is mistaken?
[12:24] <apokryphos> vbgunz_: once you've made them leave the server, you can now /nick vbgunz   ..then identify
[12:24] <vbgunz_> apokryphos, major thanks, it worked beautifully!
[12:24] <vbgunz_> nice!
[12:24] <Stormx2> !sudo
[12:24] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:24] <Blake_Seven> Wahat port do I need to open on my router to get vnc to work ?
[12:24] <topyli> gnomefreak: sudo is an old invention, not a debian thing
[12:24] <jonny_> wich ones easier, GNOME ore KDE
[12:24] <WarmFreeze> waht does the DO mean exactly ?
[12:24] <WarmFreeze> lol
[12:24] <gnomefreak> SU in fadora and other distros is super user
[12:24] <Stormx2> jonny_: For beginners, i'd say GNOME
[12:24] <Viper550> I installed KDE on mine, and it works great!
[12:24] <gnomefreak> DO like DO this
[12:24] <Blake_Seven> wahat =ahat
[12:25] <apokryphos> jonny_: an ancient flamewar. Try them both out :)
[12:25] <Stormx2> lol!
[12:25] <iiiears> java is listed in the restricted formats page.     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[12:25] <jonny_> oh, ok, I tried out KDE and it took some getting used to
[12:25] <Stormx2> jonny_: I'd start with GNOME, some people like KDE, some like GNOME
[12:25] <topyli> WarmFreeze: su will make the shell another user's shell. sudo will only execute one command as another user
[12:25] <matw> try http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootPrivileges I think the other link just moved
[12:25] <zooko> ubotu: but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats does not tell how to make Java work in Firefox.
[12:25] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, zooko
[12:25] <Stormx2> KDE is better for developing in
[12:25] <zooko> !javadeb
[12:25] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[12:25] <dooglus> Stormx2: even wikipedia can't agree.  check what the "su" page says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_%28computing%29
[12:25] <Stormx2> dooglus: Heh ok. Well, lets just leave it at "who cares"
[12:25] <jonny_> It wont let me set default  back to GNOME though
[12:26] <gnomefreak> doogus: su = super user
[12:26] <mjr> jonny_, a common semi-objective comparison is that gnome is simpler and easier, kde more complex and flexible
[12:26] <thrush> jonny_: use kde and youre drinking from the devils teat, use gnome or fluxbox or ice
[12:26] <Viper550> I was going to use SuSE 10, but I suddenly went for 5.10 rc1
[12:26] <mjr> but that's semi
[12:26] <vbgunz> life is grand!
[12:26] <iiiears> zooko - okay you stumped me. it works for me. - i need more info.
[12:26] <topyli> gnomefreak: no. su is "substitute user". it's not always root you're su'ing to
[12:26] <jonny_> fluxbox?
[12:26] <zooko> iiiears: you mean, when you read RestrictedFormats it tells you how to install Java in Firefox??
[12:26] <Stormx2> WHO CARES WHETHER ITS SUBSTITUTE OR SUPER!
[12:27] <Stormx2> Be quiet about it!
[12:27] <Stormx2> ^_^
[12:27] <thrush> jonny_: fluxbox is what I use there is NOTHING better
[12:27] <WarmFreeze> simple and flexible ....i wondar waht MS's excuse is ....
[12:27] <jonny_> is there a sudo command?
[12:27] <topyli> Stormx2: because i might su to user ID Stormx2 instead of root :)
[12:27] <WarmFreeze> got a link to fluxbox?
[12:27] <dooglus> topyli: I'm glad someone else knows that. :)
[12:27] <iiiears> zooko - java is a global thing it is available to any app that calls "javac some_instruction"
[12:27] <topyli> heh
[12:28] <gnomefreak> no where in that site does it say sudo=supstatute user
[12:28] <lorenzod> WarmFreeze: fluxbox.org
[12:28] <Stormx2> I had problems with fluxbox on ubuntu
[12:28] <topyli> jonny_: yes there is
[12:28] <vbgunz> anyone know how to tweak Ubuntu and make it faster? Are there any general rules or tips and tricks to squeeze speed out of it?
[12:28] <thrush> jonny_: sudo apt-get install fluxbox, u can select flux or gnome from your login screen under 'sessions' everything is accessed by right click
[12:28] <WarmFreeze> that woulda been the obveous site, yes
[12:28] <racookier> so, sudo works with any user (normal user)? then scurity?
[12:28] <jonny_> Ill give it a shot
[12:28] <dooglus> gnomefreak: what site?
[12:28] <zooko> iiiears: That's a good point.  But for some funny reason a bunch of people put Java apps in their web pages and call them by this funny word "applet".
[12:28] <Stormx2> vbgunz: A general tip is not to fill it with crap
[12:28] <zooko> And I would like to see those applets work on Ubuntu...
[12:28] <apokryphos> racookier: only the ones that have sudo powers
[12:28] <gnomefreak> the one you posted dooglus
[12:28] <topyli> racookier: sudo only works for users set up properly in the /etc/sudoers file
[12:29] <CzarAlex> How do i set up evolution to check mail sent to my machine? For example: czar@mother ? what server type, what path.
[12:29] <Stormx2> zooko: Thats because they use the <applet> tag
[12:29] <dooglus> gnomefreak: the first sentence on that page says "The Unix su (subsitute user) command is used to assume the login shell of another user without logging out"
[12:29] <apokryphos> dooglus, gnomefreak: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:29] <racookier> mmm the instalation ask for normal user, so this user don't will have root access, then how to manage system without root ?
[12:29] <thrush> jonny_: fluxbox for linux, bblean for windows ;)
[12:29] <topyli> racookier: you can give some users the powers to execute system upgrades and nothing else, and other users the power to do anything. others will have no super powers
[12:29] <gnomefreak> http://www.courtesan.com/sudo/
[12:30] <Stormx2> No
[12:30] <Stormx2> Aston Shell for windows!
[12:30] <apokryphos> racookier: the first user automatically has sudo powers
[12:30] <gnomefreak> the site i posted tells you
[12:30] <gnomefreak> the first part of your site says SU
[12:30] <topyli> racookier: the first user is given all sudo rights
[12:30] <gnomefreak> not sudo
[12:30] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic -- that's the channel for general chatter
[12:30] <Stormx2> Look
[12:30] <racookier> how will make that? (repeat the installation don't ask for a root password - then i don't have root access))
[12:30] <Stormx2> Stop arguing about that sudo stands for
[12:31] <jonny_> whats bblean?
[12:31] <apokryphos> racookier: the first user you specify (your user) has sudo powers automatically
[12:31] <iiiears> zooko - hang on you can have a copy of the java.deb i used.
[12:31] <apokryphos> racookier: for any other made users, you'll have to grant it to them
[12:31] <racookier> understand,
[12:31] <topyli> racookier: if you're the first user made during installation, you have ultimate power
[12:31] <vbgunz> Stormx2: trust me, I've kept strict track of what I've done so far in Ubuntu... I think I only got what I need and know every package currently added to it... I am talking about tweaks such as no animation on minimize/maximize, no viewing a window resized in real time instead more like a border whereas window gets resized after release... Things like
[12:31] <Blake_Seven> can anyone help with vnc setup ?
[12:31] <vbgunz> well you get the idea...
[12:31] <racookier> then sudo adduser (will work?)
[12:31] <thrush> jonny_: bblean replaces the explorer shell in windows
[12:31] <thrush> jonny_: xp
[12:31] <Elsan> Can I safely copy files from my Linux Ext3 disk to my windows FAT32 disk mounted?
[12:32] <WarmFreeze> SUDO=super user drugged out
[12:32] <apokryphos> racookier: sudo adduser will make a user. sudo adduser username admin, will add username to the admin (sudo) group
[12:32] <gnomefreak> lol WarmFreeze
[12:32] <topyli> racookier: yes. sudo any-command will work
[12:32] <apokryphos> Elsan: yes
[12:32] <ironuckles> lmao
[12:32] <jonny_> o
[12:32] <Elsan> apokryphos: no error will happen?
[12:32] <jonny_> im boycotting windows!
[12:32] <topyli> ooh!
[12:32] <apokryphos> Elsan: if they're proper files, no.
[12:32] <thrush> jonny_: lets u pretend youre using linux
[12:32] <WarmFreeze> so if i type SUDO -ANY COMMAND WOUOLD WORK what will that do ?
[12:33] <jonny_> cool!
[12:33] <topyli> WarmFreeze: try it in a shell :)
[12:33] <apokryphos> WarmFreeze: read the wiki entry; /msg ubotu sudo
[12:33] <Elsan> How can I copy my GNOME settings? IS there anyway?
[12:33] <Stormx2> WarmFreeze: Let that command have full root permissions ^_^
[12:33] <ScatterBrain> Is there a way that I set permissions on a folder and always have the ownership of all files in that folder remain the same - even if new files are created?
[12:33] <WarmFreeze> lol
[12:33] <jonny_> i have XP on a seperate hard drive
[12:33] <racookier> anyway only the first user have sudo rights,
[12:33] <dooglus> ubuntu is set up by default to give sudo access to root for anyone in group 'admin'
[12:33] <WarmFreeze> fluxbox looks a little like windowmaker ..
[12:34] <racookier> thank you very much bye
[12:34] <topyli> very little, yes
[12:34] <Stormx2> i don't like fluxbox :-\
[12:34] <lorenzod> WarmFreeze: hm.. you think so?
[12:34] <Stormx2> it never works well for me
[12:34] <hyperz> what is a good program for linux to burn an .iso file ?
[12:34] <thrush> stfu Stormx2 :-)
[12:34] <apokryphos> hyperz: k3b
[12:34] <gnomefreak> WarmFreeze,  if you ask me i cant tell the difference between fluxbox and blackbox but i can with windowmaker
[12:34] <hyperz> thx m8
[12:34] <Stormx2> thrush: fuck you ^_^
[12:34] <topyli> hyperz: nautilus, your file manager
[12:34] <Elsan> ScatterBrain: "sudo chown -R user /folder/folder1" But BEWARE what file you do that to!!! I have to reinstall because I did that to my /usr/bin folder and my sudo is ****ed up.
[12:34] <Morrowyn> use cdrecord/cdrdao
[12:34] <apokryphos> thrush, Stormx2: language, please.
[12:34] <Morrowyn> if you like cli
[12:35] <lorenzod> gnomefreak: then again, flux is built on black.
[12:35] <Morrowyn> otherwise k3b :)
[12:35] <hyperz> topyli , somehow that wont work :s
[12:35] <gnomefreak> my virgin eyes :(
[12:35] <iiiears> topyli - yep right clik and viola an iso
[12:35] <WarmFreeze> blackbox was windowmaker with bling
[12:35] <WarmFreeze> lol
[12:35] <zooko> iiiears: I appreciate the help, but the installation of Java is not the proble,
[12:35] <zooko> 
[12:35] <Stormx2> HE STARTED IT >:-E
[12:35] <thrush> im sorry Stormx2 ::sobs::
[12:35] <apokryphos> irrelevant
[12:35] <iiiears> ah okay.
[12:35] <Elsan> How can I copy my GNOME settings? Is there any way?
[12:35] <topyli> hyperz: right click the file, choose burn
[12:35] <gnomefreak> thats true lorenzod
[12:35] <korio> Ever since i installed the 868 kernel; whenever i move a window there are squares in it
[12:35] <zooko> The problem is that, *given* that Java is already correctly installed, that applets do not work in Firefox!
[12:35] <korio> :S
[12:35] <apokryphos> Stormx2: and drop the caps please :)
[12:35] <zooko> My wife has figured out the fix to this problem...
[12:35] <hyperz> i know
[12:35] <iiiears> zooko - "java -version"
[12:35] <Stormx2> apokryphos: Yeah i know, I was just kidding :)
[12:36] <korio> :S
[12:36] <korio> Ever since i installed the 868 kernel; whenever i move a window there are squares in it
[12:36] <vbgunz> Elsan: its all in your home directory... check view hidden files
[12:36] <zooko> iiiears: my wife says "1.4.2_08"
[12:36] <zooko> She can compile and run Java programs.  The problem does not have to do with Java.
[12:36] <JabbaHut> SUDO from the man file: sudo allows a permitted user to execute a command as the superuser or another user, as specified in the sudoers file.
[12:37] <gnomefreak> heres a stupid question whats wrong with java from synaptic?
[12:37] <vbgunz> WarmFreeze what app got bling?
[12:37] <Elsan> vbgunz: Thanks, I wasn't sure it was that. So if I reinstall and copy all those things, my settings will work?
[12:37] <vbgunz> Yes
[12:37] <iiiears> zooko - that sounds right. - is everything checked in the browser "java, javascript"?
[12:37] <zooko> My wife is typing up her explanation of how to configure Firefox to run Java applets in Breezy.
[12:37] <zooko> Hopefully her explanation could be added to RestrictedFormats...
[12:38] <vbgunz> Sort of why it is a good idea to put your HOME directory on it's own partition
[12:38] <Stormx2> I hope so
[12:38] <topyli> zooko: whatever useful you think up, you can add it to the wiki
[12:38] <iiiears> That is great! :)  Linux Community
[12:38] <Stormx2> !java
[12:38] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-55315677ab8f9890825549fa2ecebdde4bc68087 and also see !javadeb
[12:38] <vbgunz> hey what cool ass games are available in Synaptic?
[12:38] <Stormx2> ^_^ add there
[12:38] <eventual1uddha> i have a custom init.d script from an ubuntu installation which i'd like to use in another installation. how do i install it into the proper runlevel?
[12:39] <Stormx2> vbgunz: Use "Add Applications"
[12:39] <topyli> vbgunz: nethack. and xgalaga too!
[12:39] <korio> tux racer? lmao
[12:39] <Stormx2> tux racer is so much fun XD
[12:39] <icewt> neverball
[12:39] <iiiears> tux racer, frozen bubble some doom clones
[12:39] <gnomefreak> solitaire :(
[12:39] <Stormx2> XD
[12:39] <JabbaHut> SUDO answer: Super User Do    http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/intro.html
[12:39] <topyli> kobo deluxe is pretty cool
[12:39] <vbgunz> nethack and xgalaga are cool topyli?
[12:39] <ssam> wesnoth is quite fun if you like stratergy
[12:39] <iiiears> chess backgammon some flight sims
[12:39] <vbgunz> Strom2, why use Add Applications Vs Synaptic?
[12:39] <topyli> vbgunz: don't you forget it!
[12:39] <ssam> freeciv if you ever played civilisation II
[12:40] <dooglus> nethack's cool if you like being a '@' and fighting lots of 'o's
[12:40] <gnomefreak> vbgunz, lil faster?
[12:40] <vbgunz> topyli: hehe ok, will check them out
[12:40] <iiiears> lol - there are gui versions
[12:40] <vbgunz> gnomefreak: ? lil faster the name of the game?>
[12:40] <dooglus> my pet 'd' could kick your pet 'd's ass
[12:40] <topyli> vbgunz: they are the classics. there are more modern games too though, let the youngsters speak :)
[12:40] <xxMEL0Nxx> ;
[12:40] <vbgunz> I remember galaga
[12:40] <iiiears> lol
[12:41] <gnomefreak> vbgunz, i guess im so used to using synaptic that i dont bother with add app anymore
[12:41] <korio> Ever since i installed the 868 kernel; whenever i move a window there are squares in it
[12:41] <iiiears> i play unreal tournament every morning. doom 3 runs too
[12:41] <dooglus> korio: that's a known bug with the time machine you're using
[12:41] <korio> dooglus, ....
[12:41] <Stormx2> iiiears: What ver. of unreal tournament?
[12:42] <vbgunz> yeah, I've used Synaptic too but I think I clearly understand the recommendation... It seems under the games menu is a whole lot of games... Check it out, maybe something there?
[12:42] <korio> dooglus, can it be fixed?
[12:42] <dooglus> korio: there's no 868 kernel in earth year 2005.  where have you come from?
[12:42] <iiiears> UT99, UT2k4
[12:42] <korio> 686 then
[12:42] <korio> smartass
[12:42] <gnomefreak> ok so i sit here and hear people ask how to install java and i agree its a pain but why is java in synaptic never advised is there something wrong with it? ive never had a problem with it :(
[12:42] <Blake_Seven> is there a pdf file that will give a newbie some grounding in ubuntu ?
[12:43] <iiiears> << you'll see me on one of the TKK servers just about every day.
[12:43] <yi> does it need to be in pdf?
[12:43] <yi> Blake_Seven: help.ubuntu.com is a good place to start.
[12:44] <Blake_Seven> thanks
[12:44] <matw> gnomefreak, I don't know java, but I listened into a bunch of talk about it while I was researching Eclipse
[12:44] <matw> gnomefreak, apparently different versions of the sdk behave differently
[12:45] <matw> gnomefreak, Sun put restrictions on their distribution that prevented the Ubuntu folks from distributing it
[12:45] <iiiears> really?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> matw: this isnt jdk tho this is black.... something or other i guess it does have jde but not sure about sdk
[12:45] <dooglus> korio: what do you mean about 'squares' in the windows?  I'm using the 868 kernel and I don't see squares.
[12:46] <korio> its 686
[12:46] <korio> do you have a time machine?
[12:46] <matw> sdk,jdk, like i said, I don't know java. :)
[12:46] <dooglus> etc, etc.
[12:46] <iiiears> why wouldn't they want more users? - ading restrictions seems contrary.
[12:47] <gnomefreak> matw me neither i was just wondering. i know its in multi uni and maybe people are scared to advise it seeing as its not supported
[12:47] <topyli> gnomefreak: java is not freely distributable, that's the law :)
[12:47] <Spike^> Hi all-- I have a problem. I've downloaded Ubuntu 5.10 and am trying to get it to work with my router. The network card is functioning fine and I can ping and connect to machines on the network.
[12:47] <matw> gnomefreak, look up Eclipse IDE, and you might see what I did
[12:47] <gnomefreak> ok brb
[12:47] <Spike^> However I can't connect to any remote servers. DNS lookup works fine but no connection to the server. Any ideas?
[12:48] <Spike^> Can anyone help with my problem? :)
[12:48] <Stormx2> Spike^: You have no internet access?
[12:49] <Stormx2> WAN-Wise
[12:49] <Spike^> Hi Stormx2.
[12:49] <Stormx2> Hey
[12:49] <Spike^> I can nslookup, say, google.com no problem but can't actually connect.
[12:49] <Stormx2> Hmm
[12:49] <Spike^> Whereas under Windows on the same machine all is fine.
[12:49] <roe> Spike^:what is your gateway set to?
[12:49] <Spike^> I'm getting a good IP and gateway from the DHCP server.
[12:49] <topyli> Spike^: can you ping any known server by its ip number instead of name?
[12:49] <Stormx2> Spike^: Try resetting your router/modem
[12:50] <Spike^> Topyli : No, I tried that ;)
[12:50] <Razor-X> hmmm, can someone help me out with an ssmtp problem?
[12:50] <dooglus> Spike^: what does "route" show?
[12:50] <zblach> how to use my kb media keys in xmms?
[12:50] <racookier> hi again
[12:50] <Spike^> Stormx2 : Have tried that, to no avail. I have tried using a static IP and setting the gateway manually but no joy :(
[12:50] <racookier> where to find mp3 plugin
[12:51] <rudiross> Spike^: I think its important to tell if it works with another os
[12:51] <Stormx2> !mp3
[12:51] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[12:51] <Spike^> Rudiross : It works fine in Windows (now!) :)
[12:51] <JOj0> How do I disable IPv6 in ubintu?
[12:51] <michael> !join f-spot
[12:51] <rudiross> Spike^: What about mtu?
[12:51] <topyli> zblach: by disabling all the gnome keybindings and installing something like xbindkeys. i recommend using a more modern player (like bmp maybe, since you like xmms)
[12:51] <rudiross> Spike^: What kind of encapsulation does your isp use? PPPoE?
[12:51] <Cody`> would anyone mind helping me find out why my sound stopped working on my laptop
[12:52] <Spike^> MTU is 1400.
[12:52] <Spike^> Rudiross : MTU = 1400. It's PPPoA.
[12:52] <zblach> topyli, it was working in hoary
[12:52] <Blake_Seven> how do I get a list of the mwbmin modules to install with apt-get ?
[12:52] <Blake_Seven> mwbmin=webmin
[12:52] <Spike^> Rudiross : But works fine using Windows. Same IP, same gateway and same DNS server.
[12:52] <gnomefreak> well i figured out how to close an open tab in this lost thing
[12:52] <dooglus> Spike^: what does "route" show?
[12:53] <topyli> zblach: ok, maybe it's gaining awareness of gnome :)
[12:53] <indypende> no one have experienced some problem installing the msttcorefonts package?
[12:53] <Spike^> Dooglus : I'm in Windows at the moment ;(
[12:53] <Spike^> Dooglus : Any suggestions for me if I dive back into Ubuntu?
[12:53] <rudiross> Spike^: What happens if you try to telnet an http-server, e.g. telnet www.google.com 80
[12:53] <Spike^> I thought maybe IPV6 causing a problem?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> sorry to hear that Spike^ :)
[12:53] <rudiross> Spike^: Connection?
[12:54] <Spike^> Rudiross : No connection. Just times out.
[12:54] <zblach> crap. i've setup my partitions wrong. what should full Fat32 settings be?
[12:54] <dooglus> Spike^: it sounds like a route problem.  see if you can ping the router.  see if the router is in the output of 'route'.  make a copy of the output of the 'route' command, come back and tell me.
[12:54] <iiiears> indypende - hm, - if there is a problem you can try getting it from sourceforge.net.
[12:54] <roe> anyone have any xp with DVDrip?
[12:55] <roe> transcode seems to be throwing up at me
[12:55] <Stormx2> Spike^: Yes! Thats happened to me before on fedora
[12:55] <Spike^> Dooglus : The thing is, nslookup works fine looking up DNS, so I think Ubuntu is seeing the router ok.
[12:55] <Spike^> Dooglus : Even if I flush the DNS cache on the router.
[12:56] <Stormx2> But im not sure how to fix it
[12:56] <Spike^> Stormx2 : What happened to you on Fedora?
[12:56] <Spike^> I forgot where we were,
[12:56] <iiiears> NP - lol
[12:56] <iiiears> solve the problem
[12:56] <dooglus> Stormx2: make a note of the contents of /etc/resolv.conf too then
[12:57] <Spike^> Dooglus : BRB then.
[12:57] <roe> transcode anyone?
[12:58] <Halai> hi there, can anyone help me out with setting up my intellimouse forward and back mouse buttons?
[12:58] <iiiears> roe - scratches/fingerprints?
[12:59] <bipolar> I upgraded the libgl stuff this morning and now one of my fav SDL based games, blobwars, is so slow it's unplayable. Other games are fine, even OpenGL ones.
[12:59] <roe> the dvd plays find in xine
[12:59] <bipolar> does anyone know what could be causing this?
[12:59] <nekostar> yay
[12:59] <nekostar> dual monitors friggarn roxxorz
[12:59] <indypende> i can't mount any floppy!
[01:00] <zblach> what should the options be for a fat32 fs?
[01:00] <nekostar> dooglus, found a link that had step by step :)
[01:00] <roe> perhaps this is a better topic for a forum where I can post my scripts
[01:00] <zblach> **fat32 partition
[01:00] <indypende> output is: mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified
[01:00] <dooglus> nekostar: what for?
[01:00] <indypende> no one have an idea?
[01:00] <dooglus> nekostar: oh, I see :)
[01:00] <nekostar> :D
[01:00] <_jason> Halai:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons
[01:00] <Stormx2> wow
[01:00] <Stormx2> thats pretty specific
[01:01] <jonny> when I try to make GNOME my default, it does not ask me if I would like to set that as my default! It just logs right into GNOME. BTW, KDE is my default
[01:01] <Stormx2> jonny: It should automaticly go to "Last used session"
[01:02] <jonny> oh, ok, so it will not ask me if I would like to set it as my default?
[01:02] <mindmime> does ubuntu have a GUI install ?
[01:02] <greenwom> problem: sound gxine plugin streaming vid/audio tried to swap oss/esd/alsa
[01:02] <Halai> _jason: thanks.
[01:02] <jonny> It did when I made KDE my default
[01:03] <Stormx2> mindmime: No. Well, it does to some extent ^_^ ASCII style
[01:03] <jonny> mindmime: not to my knoledge, whats wrong with text?
[01:03] <cius> hello
[01:03] <regal> yap
[01:04] <regal> lo otro amigos...
[01:04] <regal> y no molesto
[01:04] <Stormx2> Ya never know, Ubuntu 6 may have a GUI installer!
[01:04] <mindmime> nothing's wrong with text :)
[01:04] <regal> resulta que quiero escuchar una radio en formato
[01:04] <Stormx2> !es
[01:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:04] <cius> would anyone happen to know what I'd need to apt-get in order to get Xlib.h?
[01:04] <Stormx2> no idea, cius
[01:04] <mindmime> does it require a manual configuration of Xfree86?
[01:04] <jonny> Stormx2: it will just autimaticly boot into  GNOME after I log into GNOME? It will not ask me if I want ti set it ass default?
[01:05] <Stormx2> do a search in synaptic for "xlib" ?
[01:05] <bigbootay> I've got a /usr/lib/perl5/Tk/pTk/Xlib.h
[01:05] <jonny> to*
[01:05] <bigbootay> looks like you may need perl-tk
[01:05] <jonny> KDE*
[01:05] <cius> Stormx2, I'll try that, thanks
[01:05] <nekostar> dooglus, http://www.glawing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14  <<--- flawless :)
[01:05] <Stormx2> jonny: Is there even a "set as default" option? $_$
[01:05] <jonny> dont know where I got a**
[01:05] <dooglus> cius: "apt-file search /Xlib.h"
[01:05] <jonny> umm...There was when I made KDE default!
[01:06] <cius> dooglus, thanks
[01:06] <dooglus> cius: output: libx11-dev: usr/include/X11/Xlib.h
[01:06] <jas_> crimsun: Hey whats up long time no see.
[01:06] <jas_> crimsun: I got a ? for ya.
[01:06] <Spike^> Hey dooglus...
[01:06] <Spike^> :)
[01:06] <Spike^> I ran 'route'.
[01:06] <cius> think i might have found it.  libX11-dev...
[01:06] <dooglus> Spike^?
[01:06] <Spike^> 10.0.0.0        *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[01:06] <Spike^> default         mygateway1.ar7  0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[01:07] <Spike^> mygateway1.ar7 = the hostname of my router
[01:07] <jonny> I clicked on KDE and a dialoge box came up asking if I would like to set it as default or for this session only
[01:07] <nalioth> !xincludes
[01:07] <ubotu> it has been said that xincludes is for X dev libs, install xlibs-dev, xlibs-static-dev and x-window-system-dev
[01:07] <cius> dooglus, thanks again
[01:07] <Spike^> Dooglus : resolv.conf also lists 10.0.0.2 as the nameserver
[01:07] <Spike^> Dooglus : Which is correct ;)
[01:07] <jonny> r u there cyphase?
[01:07] <Stormx2> jonny: it auto-logs you in to KDE? :-|
[01:08] <dooglus> Spike^: all looks the same as mine, except for the "10.0.0.0" bit - mine says "localnet" there.  but I don't know why
[01:08] <Spike^> 10.0.0.0 is my subnet
[01:09] <Spike^> Anyone know how to remove IPV6 from Ubuntu? That might help me...
[01:09] <jonny> well, the KDE boot up screen comes up (y'know, asking for username and password) and I have to manualy change it to GNOME (and please excuse my spelling, Stormx2 I am only 12)
[01:09] <apokryphos> jonny: err, it doesn't ask you to witch gnome to default?
[01:09] <apokryphos> jonny: well, just manually change it then from the gnome menu then
[01:10] <jonny> forever and ever?
[01:10] <apokryphos> jonny: until you manually change it again, yes
[01:10] <cius> yay!  all scope errors solved, but it still gives me crap.
[01:10] <jonny> is there a command to set GNOME as default?
[01:10] <Stormx2> "No dildos for lesbians - they made their choice"
[01:11] <Cody`> would anyone mind helping me find out why my sound stopped working on my laptop
[01:11] <Stormx2> jonny: Try the forums - ubuntuforums.org
[01:11] <Cody`> it worked
[01:11] <jonny> ok
[01:11] <apokryphos> Stormx2: err, not appropriate.
[01:11] <Cody`> until  I accidentally chowned all of /etc to cody
[01:11] <Cody`> then back to root
[01:11] <dooglus> Stormx2: they chose to give up men, not penetration
[01:11] <Stormx2> dooglus: ^_^
[01:11] <apokryphos> Stormx2: er, why? Shouldn't advise forums unless no-one else has the answer...
[01:12] <Stormx2> apokryphos: That guy has been asking for ages
[01:12] <Stormx2> apokryphos: And hasn't got an answer
[01:12] <apokryphos> and he got the answer...
[01:12] <thrush> jonny: i suppose u could remove kde manager from init.d
[01:12] <apokryphos> it's not changeable from the gnome login setup?
[01:13] <Cody`> would anyone mind helping me find out why my sound stopped working on my laptop Please
[01:13] <derketzer> hi, i have a question about a webcam that freezes my system, logitech with spca5xx, and i dont know where to go, i tried the support from the codec but no answer
[01:13] <thrush> jonny: is it still taking you to your reg login screen -gdm?
[01:13] <Stormx2> apokryphos: Apparently it is auto-logging him in?
[01:13] <markie> Hi, anyone have LinkSys WPC54G working in Breezy?
[01:14] <apokryphos> Stormx2: no, he just said he had to manually change it before logging in
[01:14] <Stormx2> Hmm
[01:14] <Stormx2> What I can't understand is why its not defaulting to "Last used session"
[01:14] <Cody`> could anyone help me find out why my sound stopped working? I was using esd but accidentally chown -R cody ./ && chmod -R 755 ./ in /etc when I forgot to change my directory, so I changed ownership of all back to root
[01:14] <apokryphos> same, but doesn't really matter
[01:15] <ray69> hello!
[01:15] <apokryphos> jonny: just alt+f2 -> gksudo gdmsetup. I'm pretty sure the option would be there
[01:15] <Stormx2> heya!
[01:15] <apokryphos> though I can't check now.. not in gnome, and I don't use gdm
[01:15] <ray69> i have downloaded the ppc live cd but ... how do i tell my mac to boot from this live cd? *g*
[01:16] <godmatrix> hello
[01:16] <jonny> should I do that @ the startup screen, apokryphos ?
[01:16] <apokryphos> jonny: no, do it now
[01:16] <jonny> ok
[01:16] <ray69> nobody using ubuntu live cd on PPC? *g*
[01:17] <FJ_Sanchez> Hello
[01:17] <Cody`> could anyone help me find out why my sound stopped working? I was using esd but accidentally chown -R cody ./ && chmod -R 755 ./ in /etc when I forgot to change my directory, so I changed ownership of all back to root I guess I'll just have to go ask on the forums
[01:17] <cius> how did you accidentally chown that long ass string?
[01:18] <Spike^> Could anyone else help me with my network problem?
[01:18] <Spike^> I can connect to servers by IP but not by hostname.
[01:18] <bimberi> ray69: iirc, you hold down the C key while its powering up
[01:18] <Cody`> cius forgot to change directories before I ran the command :x
[01:18] <Spike^> However I can use nslookup to lookup hostnames no problem... :/
[01:18] <zblach> is there any way to integrate my media keyboard keys with xmms?
[01:19] <FJ_Sanchez> I installed with aptitude apache2 but I cannot access localhost... Should I change something in any config file?
[01:19] <cius> Cody, lol, man that sucks, kinda funny the way you said it though, "accidentally" and all.
[01:19] <Stormx2> zblach: There may be a plugin
[01:19] <thrush> FJ_Sanchez: is httpd running?
[01:19] <Cody`> cius: Yeah where I was suppose to chown was like ~/public_html/etc
[01:19] <Cody`> so I saw etc and didn't think twice
[01:19] <ray69> bimberi hmm, i tried ... but it didnt work out ...
[01:19] <cius> cody, man that sucks
[01:20] <gimmulf_> Why isnt Limewire in package manager, is there anything better ?
[01:20] <cius> cody can you not just chown it back?  it was root to begin with right?
[01:20] <zblach> Stormx2, all that does is kick me out of xmms
[01:20] <dooglus> Cody`: you're a good lesson in "why I shouldn't log in as root" to the rest of us
[01:20] <FJ_Sanchez> I do sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[01:20] <apokryphos> gimmulf_: Limewire needed Java to run, and it's not Free (open). gtk-gnutella is a functioning alternative
[01:20] <Cody`> dooglus: yes :P
[01:20] <Cody`> cius: No clue
[01:20] <gimmulf_> thanks apokryphos
[01:21] <thrush> and u cant goto http://127.0.0.1 ?
[01:21] <Cody`> cius wait, what's the ls param to list permissions and owners
[01:21] <Cody`> I have another breezy compy I can run it on
[01:21] <Cody`> but doubt it will work, as sound was always funky on this laptop, just esd and nothing else
[01:21] <dooglus> ls -l
[01:21] <cius> cody ls -la
[01:21] <Cody`> ty
[01:21] <FJ_Sanchez> I cannot
[01:21] <chris_> mahlzeit
[01:22] <cius> cody, no sure what sound stuff you'd need to chown back to your login, so I guess I can't be much of a help
[01:22] <FJ_Sanchez> But I don't have the httpd...
[01:22] <FJ_Sanchez> I installed apache2
[01:23] <bimberi> ray69: hm, try C and D together, but i'm really guessing; and if there's a problem with the CD itself then nothing will work :|
[01:23] <ray69> ok, i'l try, thx
[01:23] <ray69> :-)
[01:23] <Cody`> cius: What gets me is, I've done Completely remove on synaptic to esd
[01:23] <thrush> FJ_Sanchez: honestly im not familiar with apache2 under ubuntu just apache
[01:23] <Cody`> and it still fails to work
[01:24] <cius> cody, did you reinstall it?!
[01:24] <Cody`> FJ_Sanchez: what was you're question, I can probable help
[01:24] <Cody`> cius: of course :)
[01:24] <Demon_stroke> can someone tell me how to get the files off my other partitions
[01:24] <Cody`> probably*
[01:24] <FJ_Sanchez> I installes apache2 but I cannot access to localhost
[01:24] <thrush> Demon_stroke: windows partitions?
[01:24] <FJ_Sanchez> installed, sorry
[01:24] <Demon_stroke> yup
[01:24] <cius> cody, just making sure, heck I'd probly do something like that and forget to reinstall...;-)
[01:24] <cemcem> Demon_stroke : you need to mount them.
[01:24] <Cody`> lol
[01:24] <Demon_stroke> mount?
[01:24] <cemcem> Demon_stroke : mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win1/
[01:25] <thrush> Demon_stroke: example: mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hd
[01:25] <cemcem> Demon_stroke : this is just an example
[01:25] <Stormx2> !mount
[01:25] <ubotu> hmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[01:25] <matw> FJ_Sanchez, did you try http://localhost ?
[01:25] <FJ_Sanchez> Sure...
[01:25] <Stormx2> !windowsdrives
[01:25] <ubotu> well, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:25] <cemcem> Demon_stroke : you need to know that what C: exactly :) hdxy -> hda1 hdc3
[01:25] <thrush> FJ_Sanchez: lo up right ;)
[01:25] <matw> FJ_Sanchez, was there an error ?
[01:25] <Demon_stroke> now, is there a way that i can make it so itll just auto mount
[01:26] <FJ_Sanchez> Jejeje... lo down
[01:26] <FJ_Sanchez> lol
[01:26] <cemcem> Demon_stroke : ofcourse, search for automount
[01:26] <derketzer> hello someone with a webcam, that can help me?
[01:26] <FJ_Sanchez> thrush: thanks
[01:26] <FJ_Sanchez> And anyone thanks
[01:26] <cemcem> Demon_stroke : i never used ubuntu but someone told me that there is automount in ubuntu packs
[01:26] <greenwom>  Problem: gxine no sound in video stream --- changed driver from auto to alsa to oss to esd?  no sound
[01:26] <thrush> FJ_Sanchez: omg i helped you? cool
[01:27] <FJ_Sanchez> Yes, lo interface was down
[01:27] <Stormx2> !webcam
[01:27] <thrush> hah in your face seveas!
[01:27] <Demon_stroke> brb...........lol
[01:27] <cemcem> greenwom : what about other applications? can you get sound?
[01:27] <Stormx2> ubotu: tell derketzer about webcam
[01:27] <matw> lo interface?
[01:27] <greenwom> sound works great :  system / xmms amarok
[01:28] <Razor-X> anyone here use ssmtp as a simple MTA?
[01:28] <cemcem> greenwom : gxine packs? are they old or beta?
[01:28] <derketzer> Stormx2: ohh thank you, look, i have a logitech webcam, kernel 2.6.12 and codec spca5xx but when i try to configure it in gnomemeeting it freezes the system
[01:28] <josh__> hey guys can anyone give me the link to that howto for xorg?
[01:29] <greenwom> cemcem : how can I tell?
[01:29] <Stormx2> josh__: There is a command for reconfig
[01:29] <josh__> for the  low resolution
[01:29] <josh__> i know
[01:29] <jonny> cyphase, are you there?
[01:29] <cemcem> greenwom : look at the version of gxine; go through its website and look at the latest packs
[01:29] <josh__> i need that how to though
[01:29] <derketzer> Stormx2: yup i know, i have amsn 0.95b, the problem isnt that, the problem is it freezes the system, although its detected
[01:29] <Stormx2> xorg-config
[01:30] <cemcem> greenwom : also try to close all "giving sound applications" and try gxine
[01:30] <jonny> i have a problem
[01:30] <Bluemat> Any recommendations for software/tools to make a backup of a DVD?
[01:30] <bimberi> !xorg
[01:30] <ubotu> somebody said xorg was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:30] <cemcem> jonny : you have a problem?
[01:30] <zblach> jonny, we have solutions
[01:30] <jonny> KDE is my default and I dont want it to be
[01:30] <cemcem> Bluemat : k3b + iso format
[01:30] <Stormx2> jonny: Tried posting on the forums?
[01:30] <jonny> zblach, good one LOL
[01:31] <agt_> How do I install another hard drive without getting a grub error 17 on bootup?
[01:31] <jonny> I dont like making acounts
[01:31] <jonny> IM a privacy freak
[01:31] <cemcem> jonny : try kdm, gmd.
[01:31] <jonny> wazzat mean?
[01:31] <bimberi> josh__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:31] <Bluemat> cemcem, any gnome native apps?
[01:32] <cemcem> jonny : try to install gnome for example... apt-get install ubuntu-desktop gonna install gnome for you, then use gdm, kdm session selecters
[01:32] <jonny> what is kdm?
[01:32] <jonny> o sorry
[01:32] <jonny> u just answered
[01:32] <cemcem> Bluemat : there is rawrite command via bash
[01:32] <jonny> I already have GNOME , though
[01:32] <Cody`> nope, no luck, all files in /etc are root except for cups crap and I don't use cups so it's all good
[01:33] <cemcem> jonny : than apt-get install kdm or gdm
[01:33] <Bluemat> cemcem, GUi'ed app would be a hell of a lot more suitable..
[01:33] <bobby> what is ubuntus support for 64bit (amd) procs like? we are developing a squid server and I just wanted to know what the driver support is like
[01:33] <vbgunz> anybody here using Meld?
[01:33] <jonny> but what are they?
[01:33] <jonny> kdm and gdm?
[01:33] <vbgunz> Is Meld problematic at selecting files for view?
[01:33] <Bluemat> jonny, desktop management software
[01:33] <cemcem> jonny : just type "sudo gdm" if there is no gdm on sys, go install it
[01:34] <jonny> ok, so that will help me set GNOME as default?
[01:34] <vbgunz> johny: I think KDE Display Manager & Gnome Display Manager... i could be off :P
[01:34] <vbgunz> anyone here using MELD?
[01:34] <bobby> no
[01:34] <kjdis> Does linux actually run on SGI 320 and 540 boxes?  I see the option but I always thought it never really worked right
[01:34] <Bluemat> Anyone know of a Gui'ed, DVD backup software?
[01:35] <matw> bobby, ubuntu amd64 has worked well for me so far. I don't know about drvers though.
[01:35] <cemcem> jonny : kdm/gdm is GUI kit for session selection..you gonna see them before kde/gnome comes..
[01:35] <thirso> which package do i need to listen to mp3?
[01:35] <vbgunz> Bluemat: not sure if it is GUI but you can try DVDRIP
[01:35] <bobby> matw, are you using skt 939?
[01:35] <carlosqueso> can anyone help me set up my wireless card?
[01:35] <bob2> thirso: depends
[01:35] <matw> bobby, skt 939?
[01:35] <bob2> thirso: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats is a start, tho
[01:35] <bobby> socket
[01:36] <thirso> bob2: rythm wont run almost anything
[01:36] <bob2> Bluemat: where "dvd backup" = "descrypt commercial dvds and copy them"?
[01:36] <bob2> thirso: then read that paage
[01:36] <cemcem> carlosqueso : go use NDIS WRAPPER
[01:36] <bob2> carlosqueso: you need to be way mroe specific
[01:36] <bobby> matw, is there a specific version of ubuntu that I have to download...or is the x86 version good enough?
[01:36] <carlosqueso> DWL-650 w/orinoco chip set
[01:36] <matw> bobby, good question, Asus A8 V motherboard with an AMD 64 300+ cpu
[01:36] <cemcem> carlosqueso : you can run windows drivers of this card with linux :)
[01:36] <carlosqueso> wiki says it works natively
[01:36] <bob2> carlosqueso: information in your queestion needs to include: the laptop model, the wireless card model, whether it is running the i386 port or not
[01:36] <bobby> matw, that is most likely 939...thanks :)
[01:37] <cemcem> carlosqueso : with native [microsoft]  drivers yes :(
[01:37] <Bluemat> vbgunz, DVD-Rip not the best
[01:37] <Demon_stroke> i still cant mount it
[01:37] <gimmulf> Hi, when im trying to add an url like: http://www.soma.fm/indiepop.pls it doesnt get added in list im using add -> url ... Play location also wont work :(
[01:37] <matw> bobby, yes there's an amd64 version
[01:37] <gimmulf> in xmms
[01:37] <carlosqueso> bob2: hp ze4200, ubuntu i386  DWL-650 rev M1
[01:38] <matw> bobby, look at the CD download area
[01:38] <bob2> gimmulf: does xmms work at all?
[01:38] <kingtight> hello all!!!
[01:38] <gimmulf> bob2: yes
[01:38] <agt_> Bluemat, acidrip rips DVDs to compressed video files, is that what you're after?
[01:38] <Bluemat> bob2, No as in backup personal cam, footage, tv-ad DVD footage (Work) & purchased DVD that I wish to backup
[01:38] <gimmulf> bob2:  if i download the pls and play it, it works
[01:38] <carlosqueso> thx cemcem....will try that if I can't get linux drivers to work
[01:39] <agt_> Bluemat, oops :)
[01:39] <Demon_stroke> can someone help me out with mounting a windows partition
[01:39] <Bluemat> agt_, DVD -> .VOB
[01:39] <bob2> Bluemat: then just copy it with k3b or whatever
[01:39] <bob2> Bluemat: or even dd
[01:39] <cemcem> bob2 : yes "dd" :) i loved it sometimes
[01:40] <Bluemat> bob2,  I dont want to copy from DVD to DVD, I want to backup on HD, in event I ever have to burn to DVD - K3B do this?
[01:40] <cemcem> Bluemat : yes
[01:40] <nalioth> Bluemat: yes. copy to image
[01:40] <thirso> gimmulf: try with Beep Media Player
[01:41] <thirso> i think it worked here with somafm
[01:41] <Demon_stroke> anyone here experienced with mounting permanitly?
[01:41] <Bluemat> cemcem, I run GDM, I thought k3B gives me a load of KDE sh*te?
[01:41] <derketzer> Demon_stroke: you need to edit fstab
[01:41] <thirso> !fstab
[01:41] <ubotu> methinks fstab is /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[01:41] <Bluemat> unnecessaries..I may be wrong
[01:41] <bob2> Bluemat: dd can even do that
[01:42] <bobby> thanks matw, downloading now
[01:42] <carlosqueso> *sigh* guess I gotta try NDISwrapper
[01:42] <konfuzed> uhm does ubuntu run on old compaq hardware??
[01:42] <carlosqueso> how old konfuzed
[01:42] <konfuzed> as in deskpro 233 mhz
[01:42] <matw> bobby, I had trouble early on with the cd's I burned. Had to slow the burn down a lot
[01:42] <Demon_stroke> well im not sure were the windows drive is located atm anyway, can u help me with mounting it?
[01:42] <carlosqueso> holy crap...didn't know anyone had those
[01:42] <thrush> Demon_stroke: sudo gedit /etc/fstab.  Type mount command in there
[01:42] <bobby> okay
[01:43] <konfuzed> donated to a community center
[01:43] <konfuzed> about 5 years ago
[01:43] <thrush> Demon_stroke: sudo fdisk -l for partition info
[01:43] <konfuzed> running a licensed win98
[01:43] <carlosqueso> used to have one myself...no idea if ubuntu works...I'd guess probably not
[01:43] <bobby> konfuzed, I run ubuntu 5.04 on a 700mhz celeron box at home and it is *usable* ...no idea on some thing as slow as 233
[01:43] <Demon_stroke> ok brb
[01:43] <konfuzed> compaq has special issues too
[01:43] <bobby> konfuzed, though a less intensive window manager than gnome would run without a problem
[01:44] <imajuchi> hi everyone, I created a vob file using kino of and i would like to burn it so i can play it in my standard dvd, do anyone of you can tell me how can i do it or can point me to a guide so i can learn?
[01:44] <konfuzed> as in some tendency to put the bios on the boot sector of the hard drive
[01:44] <bobby> I have only ever used (desktop) linux distros on compaq's faster than 400mhz...haven't had a problem though
[01:44] <ksmurf> hey peeps.  Is there a way to use just key authenticaion instead of password for ssh?
[01:44] <ksmurf> or both?
[01:45] <KurtKraut> Is there anything lighter than nautilus that I should use ?
[01:45] <icewt> konfuzed: xfce (xubuntu-desktop) should run fine on slower machines
[01:45] <jonny> how can I mive the trash can on the panel (GNOME)
[01:45] <konfuzed> well i'd hate to have it not work and then be left with trying to ghost the crap beside it
[01:45] <jonny> move*
[01:45] <mjr> jonny, drag with middle button
[01:45] <jonny> ok
[01:45] <mindmedic> ksmurf, yes there is a way
[01:45] <bobby> does it not need to be unlocked first?
[01:45] <mjr> jonny, if it doesn't move, it's locked; you can unlock it from the right-button menu
[01:45] <konfuzed> icewt: how do I select for xubuntu ?
[01:46] <crimsun> ksmurf: there's passphrase auth, and you can hook it up to be automatic using the keychain program
[01:46] <jonny> ok
[01:46] <crimsun> konfuzed: xubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <konfuzed> I actually have the kubuntu install disk at the moment
[01:46] <konfuzed> ah
[01:46] <konfuzed> is that a sperate installer download or just changing the window manager
[01:46] <ksmurf> crimsun .... great.. I'll google it and check the wiki
[01:46] <jonny> what about at the top? I want everything to be left of the clock
[01:46] <imajuchi> does anyone know how can i burn a .vob file so i can play it on a standard dvd? thanks iin avance :)
[01:46] <bimberi> ksmurf: man ssh-copy-id
[01:47] <Bluemat> !xubuntu
[01:47] <ubotu> I heard xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[01:47] <thrush> konfuzed: i would do a server install then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:47] <ksmurf> bimeri thanks
[01:47] <Stormx2> when you download kubuntu-desktop, it can fuck up your GNOME menus. Be carefull
[01:47] <thrush> konfuzed: if u dont want kde
[01:47] <jonny> mjr: what about at the top? I want everything to be left of the clock
[01:48] <Bluemat> !tell nalioth about xubuntu
[01:48] <Demon_stroke> ok i cant figure out which one is the windows partition
[01:48] <Demon_stroke> hda3 is alrdy mounted
[01:48] <Demon_stroke> thats the linux one i think because it says its mounted to "/"
[01:48] <bobby> cat /proc/partitions and look for the sizes?
[01:48] <kingright> so what is up all?
[01:49] <P8ntKid> Whats the command that i can run in xterm or something that it tells me what the name of the key im pressing is?
[01:49] <mejde> is the sis760 driver supposed to work in breezy?
[01:49] <jonny> how can you move all the iconl LEFT of the clock?
[01:49] <thirso> whats that mejde ?
[01:49] <thrush> Demon_stroke: system info on right side will say fat or ntfs for windows
[01:49] <mejde> because a friend of mine has some trouble getting it to work... http://chaozer.zapto.org/mums.png
[01:49] <jonny> I mean to the left of the clock
[01:50] <bimberi> jonny: right-click and uncheck "Lock To Panel"
[01:51] <Demon_stroke> hmm
[01:51] <jonny> gotcha!
[01:51] <Demon_stroke> i type mount /dev/hda1 which is my windowz because of the size, but it says not found in ect/fstab or sumtin like that
[01:51] <jonny> It takes FOREVER to burn an iso image at a slow speed! UGHH!!
[01:52] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Demon_stroke about windowsdrives
[01:52] <mejde> thirso: see the snap :)
[01:52] <mustard5> Demon_stroke, check PM from ubotu
[01:52] <thirso> mejde: vga problem?
[01:53] <Ninjew> P8ntKid: xev
[01:53] <bobby> what is ubuntus sata support like? is there a list of supported chipsets?
[01:54] <phiqtion> KUBUNTU is huge and the display is set on1280. why is this so huge? please help
[01:54] <cemcem> any one have mp3's of gribin[sikimiim gelmii gemii]  and/or duman ??
[01:54] <P8ntKid> Ninjew, Thanks!
[01:55] <WhyvasLT> how do you uninstall something>'
[01:55] <WhyvasLT> compiled from source?
[01:55] <mejde> thirso: what do you mean?
[01:55] <phiqtion> KUBUNTU is huge and the display is set on1280. why is this so huge? please help
[01:55] <chaozer> thirso, this is on my new 760GX-M card.. using the sis driver.
[01:55] <dmlinux> Ok installing something with Cedega and it wont let me eject my CDrom to insert disc 2 :( eek what to do?
[01:56] <chaozer> thirso, the snap that is ;)
[01:56] <mustard5> WhyvasLT, what method of installation did you use?
[01:56] <dmlinux> cedega setup.exe
[01:56] <WhyvasLT> mustard5, ./configure, make, make install
[01:57] <mustard5> WhyvasLT, if you installed from tarball, the I would say you best read the README if it is included for uninstall information (if any)
[01:57] <kingright> hello all
[01:57] <WhyvasLT> ugh
[01:57] <Demon_stroke> o.o
[01:57] <greenwom> cemcem: no joy closed everything and ran gxine
[01:57] <dmlinux> mustard5 do you know how to force the CDrom tray to eject ? instead of it coming up with a "system device is busy"
[01:57] <thirso> chaozer: gstreamer-properties , see if you can find out anything usefull there
[01:57] <Demon_stroke> that command for manual mounting i scary
[01:57] <WhyvasLT> dmlinux, try typing eject in the console
[01:57] <cemcem> immm i dont know how to say but i have something, and it reacts with something in system, and something occurs. how can i fix this problem?
[01:58] <dmlinux> whycasLT it says its bust still
[01:58] <mustard5> dmlinux, so CD players have a little hole you can poke something into at the front that can force the CD drive to open :)  I'm not sure otherwise :D
[01:58] <WhyvasLT> are you in the directory ?
[01:58] <WhyvasLT> in the console
[01:58] <carlosqueso> this is a test to see if my wireless is working
[01:58] <carlosqueso> did anyone get that
[01:58] <kingright> heloo all
[01:58] <__XyooyX__> Hello all
[01:58] <cevizoglu> WhyvasLT, you're better off using the checkinstall tool to install apps built from source
[01:58] <cemcem> kingright: let me guess, you have a problem?
[01:58] <WhyvasLT> cevizoglu, is that like a package manager?
[01:58] <chaozer> thirso, gstreamer? .. its not really related to gstreamer....:)
[01:58] <mustard5> dmlinux, do you have a window open that is still displaing CD drive contents?
[01:58] <cevizoglu> WhyvasLT, then uninstallation is much easier
[01:58] <thirso> theres a new version of wine: deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[01:59] <cevizoglu> WhyvasLT, is makes a build-from-source into a debian package for easy  uninstall
[01:59] <cemcem> cevizoglu : Korkmaaa snmezz bu aafakk..
[01:59] <cevizoglu> cemcem, benim turkce cok kotu
[01:59] <dmlinux> mustard5 nah , i used te hole thing
[01:59] <WhyvasLT> cevizoglu, does that register the package in synaptics?
[01:59] <cevizoglu> WhyvasLT, checkinstall
[01:59] <WhyvasLT> ok
[01:59] <mustard5> dmlinux, it worked hey?
[02:00] <carlosqueso> alright, got ndiswrapper to get it recognizing my wireless card, now can anyone help get it to connect to my router
[02:00] <icewt> thirso: does it install in breezy? no dependency problems?
[02:00] <thirso> icewt: downloading right now
[02:00] <chaozer> thirso, i suspect it has something to do with cairo (or something it uses) and the new gtk and the sis driver... but I wouldnt really know ....
[02:00] <carlosqueso> hmm....maybe never mind
[02:00] <druid_> were can I get a better IRC Client?
[02:01] <druid_> Xchat sucks
[02:01] <icewt> thirso: ohh.. it's in the breezy folder too. cool. i was just today told on #winehq that those sourceforge packages won't be updated anymore ;)
[02:01] <thrush> druid_: type irc in terminal
[02:01] <dmlinux> mustard5 bah the CD2 my friend burned for me has nothing on it.. god damnit
[02:01] <thirso> icewt: er Failed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.0-winehq-1_i386.deb  Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection
[02:01] <thrush> druid_: xchat is way better that mirc
[02:01] <CandleInDark> does anyone know exactly why my computer wakeup every midnight after installation of Ubuntu?
[02:02] <thirso> ><
[02:02] <mustard5> dmlinux, bummer....might have been burnt at a high speed?
[02:02] <icewt> thirso: hmm
[02:02] <cevizoglu> CandleInDark, because it wants you to use it?  ;)
[02:02] <JabbaHut> druid_, try bitchx
[02:02] <thirso> chaozer: was it working before?
[02:02] <dmlinux> mustard5 probibly , hes not too bright...
[02:02] <druid_> is it for UBUNTU?
[02:02] <chaozer> thirso, first try with this motherboard... never used it before :)
[02:03] <thirso> chaozer: hm sry m8 i have no idea of what that is, never seen it before
[02:03] <mustard5> dmlinux, I have sometimes had success with continually trying again to load a CD that seems flaky...sometimes it decides to start working, sometimes not
[02:04] <dmlinux> mustard5 says the CD is blank but has a label
[02:04] <thirso> chaozer: ubuntuforum.com/ try to get help there
[02:04] <gimmulf> Im going to get Flash working in Mozilla, can i take all thoose:  flashplayer-mozilla, flashplugin-nonfree and libflash-mozplugin ?
[02:04] <ben__> Hey...Im obviously connecting to the net but anything I try to install in synaptic is returning an error that it cant connect to the server...any ideas why?
[02:04] <mustard5> dmlinux, on windows I would have kept trying until I got sick of retrying :D
[02:04] <thirso> icewt: hm theres something wrong with the server, download is really slow
[02:04] <chaozer> thirso, maybe i will.. but im leaning towards just getting some radeon instead and end the hassle :)
[02:05] <thirso> chaozer: heh yeah that'd work
[02:05] <mustard5> dmlnux, sometimes they can decide to work for no apparent reason....
[02:05] <icewt> thirso: ok. trying to get it now myself
[02:05] <mustard5> dmlinux, most likely won't though
[02:05] <cemo> how can i set my old laptop like "centrino2.0 1gbram ultrathin" laptop with ubuntu configuration panel?
[02:05] <ben__> oh ok so it isnt just me having trouble w/ th server?
[02:05] <thirso> druid_: use irssi its more friendly than bitchx
[02:05] <dmlinux> cemo what?
[02:06] <mustard5> ben42, have you used the pastebin before?
[02:06] <ben__> nope what is that?
[02:06] <mustard5> ben42, you could paste your errors in the pastebin and then paste the URL to the pastebin in here and we can check your error messages
[02:06] <mustard5> !pastebin
[02:06] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:07] <ben__> oh yeh.. ihave sorry I wasnt thinking
[02:07] <gimmulf> Im going to get Flash working in Mozilla, can i take all thoose:  flashplayer-mozilla, flashplugin-nonfree and libflash-mozplugin ?
[02:07] <ben__> for programming...i wasnt even thinking in those terms though heh
[02:07] <mustard5> its easier if we can read the error messages ;)
[02:07] <phiqtion> KUBUNTU is huge and the display is set on1280. why is this so huge? please help
[02:07] <ben__> its also saying everything is unauthenticated
[02:08] <mustard5> ben__, yep...sounds like you having a source.list or repository error
[02:08] <ben__> http://pastebin.com/405942
[02:08] <mustard5> thanks
[02:09] <ben__> it happened after i tried to install 'anon-proxy' I think...but i unisntalled it and checked all of my proxy settings to make sure they werent screwed up
[02:09] <mustard5> ah ok
[02:09] <escobar5> hello, i'm trying to add the universe and multiverse repositories as in the starter guide, but they fail to download, what could be happening?
[02:09] <mustard5> that sounds relevant
[02:09] <z3r0x> hi
[02:09] <cevizoglu> !say what?
[02:09] <ubotu> whatchootalkin' 'bout willis?
[02:09] <ben__> haa
[02:09] <cevizoglu> hehe.. sorry
[02:09] <jonny> r u ther cyphase
[02:09] <mustard5> ben__, it does look like your proxy is wacked out :D
[02:10] <bobby> bah there should be a site with all hardware and its current status of workingness under linux
[02:10] <cevizoglu> escobar5, don't know what to say, other than to paste your source.list into pastebin and ask people here to look at it
[02:10] <ben__> ive checked to make sure i was on direct connection to the internet
[02:10] <ben__> in synaptic
[02:10] <z3r0x> I have a problem. I just installd the autostart "patch" and edited the file /etc/autostart.sh, but the system didn't start /etc/init.d/autostart...
[02:10] <n0odl3> does anyone know what ctrl-break means?
[02:10] <mustard5> check your network settings in preferences?
[02:10] <ben__> and in preferences/proxy
[02:10] <ben__> andin firefox
[02:10] <bobby> z3r0x, is autostart executable?
[02:11] <mustard5> hmmm...
[02:11] <Demon_stroke> ok my hard drive will not mount
[02:11] <z3r0x> yes, but let me check
[02:11] <jonny> my internet connection is to slow, its a lot faster on windows, is this common?
[02:11] <jonny> too*
[02:11] <druid_> I Installed BitchX and Its not in my Applications .......
[02:11] <mustard5> ben__, so you've uninstalled anon proxy?
[02:11] <ben__> should anything be in "ignore host list"
[02:11] <ben__> yes
[02:11] <dmlinux> jonny :)
[02:11] <theine> Demon_stroke, how do you mount it and what error do you get?
[02:11] <HrdwrBoB> druid_: no, it's not
[02:11] <propagandhi> proxy wouldnt be running on port 80 though right?
[02:11] <bobby> jonny, in regard to what...web browsing or downloading?
[02:11] <HrdwrBoB> druid_: use irssi instead
[02:11] <dmlinux> jonny winblowz is the slow on, linux is blazing
[02:11] <jonny> both
[02:11] <z3r0x> @ bobby -rwxr-xr-x
[02:11] <bobby> propagandhi, 80 or 8080 is common
[02:11] <propagandhi> that ports normally http server
[02:11] <HrdwrBoB> druid_: in any case, both irssi and bitchx are console/terminal (text mode) applications
[02:11] <cevizoglu> escobar5, you might also want to comment out all the sources and then uncomment one-by-one to see which source is giving the error
[02:11] <jonny> more browsing actualy
[02:12] <ThomasM> bobby: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/
[02:12] <bobby> jonny, that is a problem with your net connection then
[02:12] <bobby> thanks ThomasM
[02:12] <jonny> ignore spelling, i only 12
[02:12] <bobby> z3r0x, check for a syntax error then... hmm
[02:12] <gimmulf> how do i take an screenshot on my desktop from terminal using fluxbox?
[02:12] <bobby> jonny, twelve and already using linux? classy :)
[02:12] <n0odl3> does anyone know what CTRL-Break is?
[02:12] <will_> hey....having serious ndiswrapper issues (HP ze4200, ubuntu i386, Dlink DWL650), crashes comp when turned on.  Anyone help?
[02:12] <Demon_stroke> ok
[02:12] <n0odl3> apparently its the only way to close  peerguardian
[02:12] <ben__> mustard5, any clue? would my "ignore host list" settings in network proxy advanced settings matter?
[02:12] <Demon_stroke> i mount using the simple mount /dev/ blah usually hda
[02:12] <z3r0x> the system doesn't even try to start this script
[02:13] <toky_> any network people here?
[02:13] <WhyvasLT> hiw can i turn off ipv6?
[02:13] <bobby> ThomasM, ! great site
[02:13] <jonny> im boycotting windows
[02:13] <WhyvasLT> nothing uses ipv6 yet eh?
[02:13] <mustard5> ben__, paste them in the same pastebin and resubmit, I'll check it out
[02:13] <Demon_stroke> and it says cannot be mounted
[02:13] <bobby> toky_, I'm a network person :) mmm networks
[02:13] <jonny> and there stupid code base from the 70s
[02:13] <toky_> lol
[02:13] <theine> Demon_stroke, nothing else?
[02:13] <dmlinux> Jawbreakers hurt  :/.
[02:13] <bobby> jonny, that's the spirit
[02:13] <z3r0x> and rc2.d sais -> S99autostart -> /etc/ini t.d/autostart
[02:13] <JabbaHut> druid_, Just open a terminal console and run 'bitchx'
[02:13] <Demon_stroke> lemmi check
[02:13] <toky_> i need help w a network diagram
[02:13] <ben__> mustart theres just two things there... localhost and 127.0.0.0/8
[02:13] <ben__> mustard5,  rather
[02:14] <ThomasM> bobby: There are others (just found that via google after you complained), but that one looks fairly comprehensive, and it includes the possibility for users to include instructions.
[02:14] <druid_> how i run bitchX whats the command
[02:14] <gnomefreak> druid_: command  is bitchx
[02:14] <druid_> ok
[02:14] <jonny> can I set up a new connection?
[02:14] <adriyel__> gnomefreak, that is an amazing surprise of a command
[02:14] <Demon_stroke> says mount: not found ect/fstab/ blah blah
[02:14] <gnomefreak> adriyel__: isnt it :)
[02:15] <mustard5> ben__, I have to say I am at a loss..
[02:15] <druid_> bash: bitchX: command not found
[02:15] <mustard5> ben__, keep asking and see who else might know
[02:15] <ben__> great =[
[02:15] <ben__> thanks for trying
[02:15] <bobby> ThomasM, yes I found several via google but a lot of them don't contain enough information or the like...the one you linked doesn't contain info for the hardware I need either :| ...oh well
[02:15] <gnomefreak> druid_: it has to be installed first try apt-get install bitchx
[02:15] <druid_> k
[02:15] <jonny> how can u set up a new network connection?
[02:15] <bobby> ifconfig ethx:x whatever :)
[02:16] <bobby> man ifconfig
[02:16] <adriyel__> gnomefreak, its almost as complex as using the command "doom3" to run...GET THIS... doom3!
[02:16] <ThomasM> bobby: Check SuSE's HCL.  It's in their knowledge base.
[02:16] <Demon_stroke> hard drive will not mount, need help please,
[02:16] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:16] <monkey89> my network printer is detected as off in HPLIP toolbox, but its on (and i can print to it) - the error is hpiod invalid device descriptor:-1 and hpssd says open failed for device.  whats up?
[02:16] <ThomasM> bobby: I think there might be something at kernel.org or linux.org, as well.  That's what I was initially hitting google for.
[02:16] <z3r0x> bobby, how can I find out where the problem is?
[02:16] <druid_> ok bitch x is up what i type ..............
[02:16] <gnomefreak> it took me a month to figure those commands out
[02:16] <jonny> bobby, how can you set up a new network connection?
[02:16] <bobby> ThomasM, checked that...got most of what I needed so far from suse and red hat hcls
[02:16] <gnomefreak> druid_:  yes no space
[02:16] <toky_> jonny
[02:17] <Demon_stroke> need help, hard drive will not mount
[02:17] <toky_> jonny: ifconfig
[02:17] <Blake_Seven> Hi all
[02:17] <gnomefreak> hi Blake_Seven
[02:17] <bobby> jonny, gnome has a gui tool for it I think... system -> administration -> networking... or type man ifconfig in terminal
[02:17] <toky_> see if you see something like "ethX"
[02:17] <adriyel__> Demon_stroke, what hard drive, how many do you have, what device is it, what command are you using, e.tc.?
[02:17] <Murrlin> evening all
[02:17] <druid_> ok bitchx is running
[02:17] <druid_> in terminal
[02:17] <druid_> now what i do ?
[02:17] <mustard5> ben__, where did you get the anon-proxy program from?
[02:17] <Blake_Seven> I am trying to get vnc to run over ssh thru puTTY and I am going nuts. Can anyone help me Thanks
[02:17] <ben__> it was in synaptic
[02:17] <jonny> iv gotten that far, but it doesnt say "new connection" anywhere
[02:17] <gnomefreak> druid_: its gonna run there its not a gui app
[02:17] <Demon_stroke> im using mount /dev/hdablah
[02:17] <Demon_stroke> and they are partitions i beleive
[02:17] <Murrlin> I see a lot of forum posts about net connection sharing where an ubuntu machine is on the net side of the crossover lan
[02:18] <mustard5> ben__, ah ok
[02:18] <druid_> how do i use Bitchx
[02:18] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:18] <HrdwrBoB> mustard5: er what
[02:18] <Murrlin> but how do I get an ubuntu machine on the tail end of the LAN to get internet?
[02:18] <toky_> man Bitchx
[02:18] <HrdwrBoB> er Murrlin
[02:18] <gnomefreak> druid_: thats a bitch no pun intended lol
[02:18] <Demon_stroke> its a windows 2k partition, and since windows 2k wont boot since i instaled linux, im having to use that
[02:18] <mustard5> ben__, did you try an 'sudo apt-get remove --purge <packagename> ?
[02:18] <druid_> huh:S
[02:18] <Murrlin> I'm assuming that my netside machine is configured ok but I'll check soon
[02:18] <ben__> mustard5,  no i did "complete removal" in synaptic
[02:18] <mustard5> HrdwrBoB, ?  did I accidently message you?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> ok druid_ hold on llet me start bitchx and ill help u
[02:19] <mustard5> HrdwrBoB, a typo on tab complete I think soz
[02:19] <Demon_stroke> and it says its hda1
[02:19] <Demon_stroke> and that wont mount
[02:19] <HrdwrBoB> mustard5: yeah
[02:19] <arzajac> ...
[02:19] <adriyel__> Demon_stroke, give me the error message in brief, Furthermore, is ntfs support in a general sense functional?
[02:19] <mustard5> ben__, try that apt-get command I showed you and just substitute the package name
[02:20] <toky_> bobby: i need help with a network diagram that i'm making
[02:20] <anup> whenever i try to burn something using my memorex cdr/rw drive it says not enough space and i need to insert a blank cd, any ideas?
[02:20] <Demon_stroke> dont know wut that means, error message; Mount: Unable to find "name" in ect/fstab or ect/mtab
[02:20] <adriyel__> Demon_stroke, also, address me with my name at the beginning of each sentence, makes it a lot easier to know when to read
[02:20] <gnomefreak> druid_:  i lied now i having issues with it
[02:20] <druid_> lol
[02:20] <Demon_stroke> adriyel__, like this
[02:21] <adriyel__> yes
[02:21] <adriyel__> perfect
[02:21] <ben__> mustard5,  I did and it said the package didnt exist :/
[02:21] <z3r0x> reboot!
[02:21] <adriyel__> Demon_stroke, do this for me. run sudo mkdir /mnt/crappyos && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/crappyos
[02:21] <mustard5> ben__, paste the command you used in #flood plz
[02:21] <Demon_stroke> adriyel__, ok brb
[02:21] <mustard5> or in here I suppose..its only one line ;)
[02:22] <gnomefreak> i feel stupid now   where the hell is the options for bitchx its logging me in as someone else and /nick wont change name
[02:22] <adriyel> bugger.
[02:22] <marcin> hi guys
[02:23] <ThomasM> gnomefreak: I don't want to start any holy wars, but there are numerous console IRC clients that many prefer to BitchX.
[02:23] <Demon_stroke> adriyel__, same error message, cannot find /dev/hda1 in /ect/fstab blah
[02:23] <gnomefreak> its telling me my nick is owed by and thats it
[02:23] <marcin> could someone help me and tell if is this possible to checkout some selected single directory from cvs?
[02:23] <mustard5> ben__, ok mate..I've hit a wall again.....time for you to seek better advice :D
[02:23] <gnomefreak> ThomasM: im using konvosation now normally its eitehr bitchx, xchat, or lostirc
[02:23] <jrattner1> Anyone here use webmin with ubuntu
[02:23] <adriyel> Demon_stroke, why is it relying upon the fstab to mount the drive? shouldn't an issue
[02:24] <ben__> Anyone her ehave better advice than mustard5 ;)
[02:24] <marcin> there is anonymous repository and it contains some huge module but I need only few files from subdir
[02:24] <adriyel> Demon_stroke, sudo nano /etc/fstab pipe it to #flood
[02:24] <Demon_stroke> adriyel__, it says ect/mtab too
[02:24] <ben__> Synaptic can't connect to anything...cant authenticate packages or download them...any ideas?
[02:24] <ThomasM> gnomefreak: You might look into irssi.  And any console IRC client is greatly enhanced by 'screen' (which, if you haven't used it, allows you to detach and re-attach sessions).
[02:24] <adriyel> just give me fstab on #flood please Demon_stroke
[02:24] <jonny> ok so here is what it says in network help
[02:24] <jonny> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3619 I have Eternet, but I see no "add button" under connections
[02:24] <ThomasM> gnomefreak: epic (and its variants) are also popular.
[02:24] <mustard5> ben_ include your pastebin link in question ;)
[02:25] <jrattner1> jonny, what type of NIC do you have
[02:25] <cemo> cevizoglu : alo
[02:25] <jonny> no idea what that EVEN means
[02:25] <jonny> im 12
[02:25] <jonny> so take it easy
[02:25] <cevizoglu> cemo: hi  :)
[02:25] <bimberi> Demon_stroke: what is the mount command you're using?
[02:25] <Demon_stroke> adriyel__, it opened a lil screen, and its all blank
[02:26] <Demon_stroke> im using mount
[02:26] <ThomasM> jonny: To help, you might want to paste the output of 'lspci' to the pastebin as well.
[02:26] <Demon_stroke> adriyel__, just empty fstab thingy
[02:26] <jrattner1> jonny, type lspci -v and put the output on pastebin
[02:26] <gnomefreak> druid_: type in /connect irc.freenode.net
[02:26] <bimberi> Demon_stroke: i meant the whole command
[02:26] <escobar5> hello, i pasted in the paste bin the problem i am having with the repositories, this is it: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3620, can you help me?
[02:26] <ben__> Heres my error when I try to install j2re: http://pastebin.com/405942
[02:26] <Demon_stroke> bimberi, mount /dev/hda1
[02:26] <jonny> ok hold on
[02:27] <druid_> k hold on a min or to
[02:27] <cemo> can ubuntu beat gentoo ? which one is faster?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> i was trying to log into bitchx with this screen name :(
[02:27] <bobby> depends on the system
[02:27] <bimberi> Demon_stroke: you need to specify a mountpoint as well (eg. mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1), /media/hda1 must exist beforehand
[02:27] <joe1011> Hello
[02:28] <marcin> cemo: ubuntu is much faster.....
[02:28] <marcin> cemo: to install ;)
[02:28] <adriyel> Demon_stroke, your fstab cannot be empty, did you type sudo /etc/fstab?
[02:28] <ssam> if you know what you are doing you can probably make gentoo fastest
[02:28] <bobby> lol
[02:28] <adriyel> sudo nano /etc/fstab, that is
[02:28] <bobby> gentoo when compiled all from source takes ages to install :P
[02:28] <Demon_stroke> adriyel__, yes i did, its empty
[02:28] <joe1011> Having trouble getting ubuntu to network, it will not get an ipv4 address from my router, any ideas what is wrong?
[02:28] <ssam> but you can make ubuntu quite fast with a bit of tweeking
[02:28] <gnomefreak> marcin: about 2 hrs faster to install :(
[02:28] <mustard5> Demon_stroke, thats not right or not good :)
[02:28] <adriyel> ssam, yes but sadly, most gentoo-ricers don't know anything about CFlags or choke-points
[02:28] <adriyel> mustard5, I think he's opening the wrong location
[02:28] <bobby> lol
[02:28] <marcin> gnomefreak: with gentoo compiled from sources?
[02:29] <mustard5> adriyel, I would assume that too
[02:29] <thirso> ben__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:29] <thirso> get the sun java
[02:29] <druid_> it dun do any thing when i di this  /connect irc.freenode.net
[02:29] <gnomefreak> marcin i had to set up and compile everything myself to install it
[02:29] <bimberi> escobar5: comment out all the breezy-backports lines in your sources.list
[02:29] <ssam> i am very temped to do a linux from source install on a via epia computer to get the most out of it
[02:29] <Demon_stroke> adriyel__, o wait, my bad, it says [newfile]  at bottom, come to think of it, i did a search on fstab and nothing came up either
[02:29] <mustard5> adriyel, he may have just deleted the contents while fiddling?
[02:29] <bobby> /server irc.freenode.net
[02:29] <Belutz> druid_, it should be /server irc.freenode.net
[02:29] <bobby> not connect
[02:29] <thirso> druid_: /server
[02:29] <marcin> gnomefreak: right - 2hrs... some quad opteron thing right?
[02:30] <escobar5> bimberi, sorry what is my sources.list?
[02:30] <ssam> it depends a lot on what you mean by fast
[02:30] <gnomefreak> marcin i quit about 1/2 way through took too long nad my head was killing me from setting up the partions
[02:30] <Demon_stroke> no i just instaled it this morning and whent on here because i cant mount my hd,
[02:30] <druid_> ok the Commands are just like MIRC ?
[02:30] <gnomefreak> druid_: yes
[02:30] <jonny> jrattner1: Ok here is the edited one http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3621
[02:30] <gnomefreak> kinda
[02:30] <bimberi> escobar5: it's a file, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    - Alternatively you can disable the repositories in Synaptic
[02:30] <ssam> if you strip half the boot scripts out of ubuntu it would boot very fast
[02:30] <druid_> ok i got it thewn
[02:30] <druid_> then
[02:31] <mustard5> Demon_stroke, the fstab file is what mounts your linux drives too, so it must have something in it for you to have loaded up linux today.....something in what you are entering in as a command is probably wrong
[02:31] <ssam> if you want apps to load fast then you need to preload them into ram somehow
[02:31] <nekostar> question: if esd is running does that mean that oss is running?
[02:31] <intelikey> anyone know a url to a good dos boot floppy image ?
[02:31] <cevizoglu> ssam, that works if you have a ton of ram
[02:31] <Demon_stroke> mustard5, i typed sudo nano /ect/fstab
[02:32] <mustard5> thats wrong
[02:32] <Demon_stroke> thats wut that one person said to type
[02:32] <ssam> cevizoglu, true, but if you just use a few apps you could have just them preload
[02:32] <Demon_stroke> so i did
[02:32] <mustard5> Demon_stroke, it 'etc'
[02:32] <Elsan> How can I gain full access to my Windows drive in a Live CD?
[02:32] <Demon_stroke> !!!
[02:32] <ubotu> from memory, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[02:32] <druid_> who hate Microsuck ?
[02:32] <Demon_stroke> o god im a moron
[02:32] <jonny> did you get that, jrattnerl ?
[02:32] <qiHEWSfi> would anyone be interested in a surround headphones and a terratec 5.1 card for 50 bucks? i am telling this because i now have a functional 5.1 system in ubuntu, and that hardware can be bought from stores for that price..if anyone has problems with alsa, i could help you out with a few pointers
[02:32] <Demon_stroke> brb!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
[02:32] <mustard5> Demon_stroke, its cool...easy to do ;)
[02:32] <escobar5> bimberi, ok i have disabled all the repositories in synaptic
[02:33] <bimberi> escobar5: all? hopefully just breezy-backports!
[02:33] <ssam> surround sound head phones?
[02:33] <anup> hello, i just installed ubuntu and here's my problem: whenever i try to burn something using my memorex cdr/rw drive it says not enough space and i need to insert a blank cd, any ideas?
[02:33] <qiHEWSfi> i am not suggesting a trade with me, that is original hardware in a store
[02:33] <jonny> did you get that, jrattner1 ?
[02:33] <ssam> how many ears do you have :-)
[02:33] <intelikey> Elsan 'sudo mount -o remount,umask=0 <windows_mount_point>'
[02:33] <qiHEWSfi> ssam yes the zalman theatre 6 5.1 headset was 80 bucks a year ago but now atleast here in Finland the price is 30 , slightly less then 30 bucks
[02:34] <escobar5> bimberi, how's that, do i need to disable only the breezy-backports?
[02:34] <ssam> qiHEWSfi, but i only have two ears, i only need to speakers
[02:34] <bimberi> escobar5: yes, they're what's causing those errors (in fact there's no such repository yet)
[02:34] <ssam> qiHEWSfi, especialy on head phones
[02:35] <Elsan> intelikey: I don't understand what the "windows mount poing" is? The folder I set it in?
[02:35] <Demon_stroke> same thing
[02:35] <Demon_stroke> blank
[02:35] <mustard5> Demon_stroke, I'm hoping you didn't blank your fstab by mistake :)
[02:35] <qiHEWSfi> ssan yes but dvd movies have surround sound and 5.1 games will come to linux someday. the point is spatialized sound which means what's on the screen sounds like that in the enviroment by position
[02:35] <intelikey> Elsan yes the directory that it is mounted on
[02:36] <jonny> is there a program that allows me to take songs off my iPod and play them?
[02:36] <cevizoglu> qiHEWSfi, huh?  Doom3 doesn't have surround sound?
[02:36] <Ninjew> God, not the "I only have 2 ears" argument
[02:36] <Demon_stroke> mustard5, i closed the terminal and restarted it and it stil does it
[02:36] <qiHEWSfi> ssam and in my experience, a working hardware combo of that class is a noteworthy thing
[02:36] <nekostar> anup, what are you using to burn?
[02:36] <mustard5> Demon_stroke, paste the command you entered this time..
[02:36] <nekostar> you might be burning too much data
[02:36] <crimsun> cevizoglu: (yes, it does. plug:surroundXX)
[02:36] <qiHEWSfi> ssam out of the box, with a tweak
[02:36] <Elsan> intelikey: It didn't work... I want to backup my Installation files
[02:36] <Demon_stroke> mustard5, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[02:36] <pupil> I downloaded and extracted the kernel sources the other day,... other than extracting the kernel source.. is there any thing I have to do before pointing to it
[02:36] <jonny> is there a program that allows me to take songs off my iPod and play them?
[02:37] <mustard5> Demon_stroke, hmmm..well looks like you might have deleted the contents of your fstab
[02:37] <jonny> or even just play them
[02:37] <intelikey> Elsan what error did it give ?
[02:37] <adriyel> omg.
[02:37] <pupil> Which file is the kernel-sources,. cause I installed it,. and when I point to it,. my installation fails for madwifi
[02:37] <ssam> qiHEWSfi, ok, i think i'd rather go to higher sample rate/bit rate before increasing speaker number, maybe thats just me
[02:37] <Demon_stroke> well then next time i reboot linux wont start?
[02:37] <adriyel> mustard5, I fscking told you he opened the wrong location
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[02:37] <nekostar> jonny, i was told that rythmbox can do something like that?
[02:37] <Ninjew> jonny: Yes, look at gtkpod and gnupod
[02:37] <jonny> are the in synaptic?
[02:37] <P8ntKid> Does anybody here have a transparency menu in thre fluxbox config menu If they have fluxbox?
[02:37] <Ninjew> jonny: gtkpod is
[02:37] <adriyel> mustard5, Demon_stroke maybe if people would listen to me and realize HEY, maybe I actually know what I am talking about...*grumble grumble*
[02:37] <mustard5> adriyel, I think he is opening the right one now though...
[02:37] <bimberi> Ron_o2: /msg nickserv help ghost
[02:37] <jonny> ok thank you
[02:38] <adriyel> mustard5, you *think* ?
[02:38] <qiHEWSfi> ssam that's you. the improvement in for example net radio is something you dont wanna miss . the quality grows to great extend
[02:38] <pupil> how do I apt-get my kernel sources?
[02:38] <Elsan> intelikey: No error, I just have access to it and can't copy
[02:38] <adriyel> pupil, sudo apt-get install linux-sources
[02:38] <adriyel> (I think)
[02:38] <intelikey> Elsan ntfs ?
[02:38] <qiHEWSfi> ssam i used to have the ac'97 chipset and with that purchase the quality is 200 %
[02:38] <pupil> adriyel, that does NOT work.
[02:38] <mustard5> adriyel, I'm wondering how I can double check though....
[02:39] <ssam> qiHEWSfi, cool
[02:39] <jonny> ninjew: does gtkpod run on GNOME?
[02:39] <mustard5> adriyel, some type of grep command or seomthing
[02:39] <adriyel> mustard5, you can't. hence he unreliability of hoomahns...
[02:39] <Elsan> intelikey: No, I converted to FAT32, the command I used is(I used tje GNOME disk manager to mount it in /Windows): "sudo mount -o remount,umask=0 /Windows"
[02:39] <adriyel> meh? now I am lost
[02:39] <qiHEWSfi> ssam just thought you guys could be interested
[02:39] <Ninjew> jonny: yes
[02:39] <cevizoglu> pupil: huh? apt-cache linux-source doesn't work?
[02:39] <jonny> ok thank you
[02:39] <mustard5> Demon_stroke, hang ten buddy....don't reboot ;)
[02:39] <Jeffrae> hi
[02:39] <adriyel> pupil, just apt-cache search for it
[02:40] <jonny> and thank YOU nekostar
[02:40] <cevizoglu> pupil: make that  apt-cache search linux-source
[02:40] <Jeffrae> is there a place where I can see when a package is planned on being upgraded?
[02:40] <pupil> cevizoglu, found it,. thanks
[02:40] <cevizoglu> !find linux-source
[02:40] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.12: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Ubuntu patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.12-9.23 (breezy), Packaged size: 39493 kB, Installed size: 39628 kB
[02:40] <adriyel> Jeffrae, you'd need to talk to the appropiate MOTU personally, more than likely
[02:40] <Jeffrae> I am wating for an updated Ghostscript in the ubuntu distro
[02:40] <agt> I installed Banshee from Synaptic but upon running 'banshee' I get a segmentation fault ... and GStreamer engine failed init tests.. disabling
[02:40] <adriyel> ubotu tell pupil about linux-source
[02:40] <Jeffrae> adriyel, Thanks!! :)
[02:40] <qiHEWSfi> the sound card is 20 for the very basic and 40 for the fun version which is enhanced and the headset is almost a legend and the price is going down as we speak
[02:41] <mustard5> Demon_stroke, can you join #kubuntu-offtopic  ...its quieter in there....
[02:41] <ben__> Synaptic is unable to authenticate any packages and will not download them either...Heres my error when I try to install j2re: http://pastebin.com/405942
[02:41] <adriyel> Jeffrae, just find the name of the MOTU that handles that category or package and you can contact them
[02:41] <adriyel> Jeffrae, np
[02:41] <Jeffrae> adriyel,
[02:41] <adriyel> yes?
[02:41] <Jeffrae> adriyel, Really.. You wouldn't feel like that is pestering them?
[02:41] <intelikey> Elsan try this then "sudo umount /Windows -f ;sudo chmod 777 /Windows ;mount -o umask=000 /dev/hd<?#> /Windows "  that should make it world read/write able
[02:41] <jonny> ninjew, do you have gtkpod?
[02:41] <Ninjew> jonny: yes
[02:42] <jonny> is it seemless
[02:42] <neologic> hello
[02:42] <Demon_stroke> mustard5, it doesnt show any channels with that name
[02:42] <adriyel> Jeffrae, if you ask politely what is you want to know (namely how soon till the next update, correct?), I'm sure they can either say, I dunno, or give you an estimate, just be polite, and be brief. Ubuntu maintainers and tech-supports in my experience are very helpful and nice. It's not called Linux for Humans for no reason
[02:42] <intelikey> Elsan the <?#> is the drive and partition address.   like  /dev/hda1
[02:42] <Ninjew> jonny: What do you mean?
[02:42] <neologic> Can someone direct me to an article describing how to enable universe and multiverse in Hoary?
[02:42] <mustard5> Demon_stroke, type '/join #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:42] <jonny> easy to use and set up, ninjew
[02:43] <Elsan> intelikey: Exactly this.
[02:43] <adriyel> mustard5, see you in there :)
[02:43] <mustard5> k
[02:43] <Ninjew> jonny: Fairly easy, yes
[02:43] <qiHEWSfi> ssam the card also has a optical in and out which is ideal for an amplifier and a dvd-player .. your computer will work as a mixer =) the output could go to a quality 2-point stereo system
[02:43] <Jeffrae> adriyel, where do I find the MOTU?  I looked in Synaptic and I found a blablabla@debian.org attached to some packages
[02:43] <mustard5> Demon_stroke, type "   /join #kubuntu-offtopic   "
[02:43] <jonny> you might have to explain some of it to me if need be, ninjew
[02:44] <Elsan> intelikey: It shows this now: >
[02:44] <Ninjew> jonny: np, just let me know what questions you have, I'll try to answer
[02:44] <jonny> ok thx
[02:44] <adriyel> Jeffrae, what package are you interested in?
[02:44] <bimberi> neologic: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:44] <Jeffrae> Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) <mhatta@debian.org> Is listed as the maintainer when I look in Synaptic
[02:45] <intelikey> Elsan the <?#> is the drive and partition address.   like  /dev/hda1     NOT /dev/hd<?#>    the ? is a letter and the # means number
[02:45] <adriyel> then email the appropiate address :)
[02:45] <Jeffrae> adriyel, gs-esp
[02:45] <WhyvasLT> so, with gtkpod, you can upload any mp3's to your ipod right?
[02:45] <escobar5> bimberi, ok did it, everything's ok.
[02:45] <intelikey> Elsan [ctrl] +C  to abort and try again
[02:45] <qiHEWSfi> ssam my setup is going to be a optical connection from a dvd player and standard output two a stereo system, plus the 5.1 headphones in the surround connection. display is my brand new syncmaster 19" which will be connected with a high quality rgb-conneection
[02:45] <davidleeroth> I have a question.... I recently had a soundcard problem. After hours of googling, i found the solution was to build a custom kernel leaving atiixp-modem uninstalled.  So, I compiled the kernel and tried to boot from it... But it said that I had an error (something along the lines of cannot boot from unknown block) Help!!!??
[02:45] <WhyvasLT> not only the itunes ones
[02:45] <Elsan> intelikey: YES I know :p I meant exactly like "/dev/hda1"
[02:45] <Jeffrae> it is a debian address I know ubuntu is a a spinoff of debian, but are the debian people really the maintainers?
[02:45] <adriyel> Jeffrae, why are you anxious for a new version of the post-script interpreter?
[02:45] <bimberi> escobar5: great :)
[02:45] <jonny> ninjew: canit upload playlists?
[02:45] <jonny> can it*
[02:45] <Elsan> intelikey: lemme see something...
[02:45] <davidleeroth> i use ephpod for my ipod
[02:46] <adriyel> Jeffrae, they maintain the packages, we add some, remove some, recompile/rebuild some
[02:46] <crimsun> Jeffrae: the last person to touch it was Ian Jackson <ian@davenant.greenend.org.uk>  Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:55:44 +0100
[02:46] <adriyel> Ubuntu is derived largely from their repository
[02:46] <phil_> i am fresh man, talk about ubuntu
[02:46] <escobar5> bimberi, but what with the breezy backports, do i have to leave them disabled?
[02:46] <intelikey> Elsan no that is an example.   i don't know where your windows partition is.    'sudo fdisk -l '  will help you find it if you don't know.
[02:46] <F-Lelo> Hello
[02:46] <Ninjew> jonny: Yep,
[02:46] <gnomefreak> escobar5: there are no breezy backports yet
[02:46] <davidleeroth> can someone help me with a kernel issue?
[02:46] <escobar5> gnomefreak, ok i get it, thanks
[02:46] <qiHEWSfi> ssam and of course the alsa-basic-mixer will be replaced with a professional software mixer .
[02:46] <bimberi> escobar5: for now yes, they don't exist yet
[02:46] <Elsan> Intelikey: I KNOW. :D It shows me this error(I made a mistake before): "mount: only root can do that
[02:46] <Elsan> "
[02:46] <F-Lelo> once I have ubuntu installed, how do I install kde?
[02:47] <jonny> how?
[02:47] <davidleeroth> apt-get install kubuntu-base
[02:47] <davidleeroth> flelo^^^
[02:47] <F-Lelo> ok, thank you :)
[02:47] <escobar5> bimberi, a simple question, what will be those repositories??
[02:47] <ben__> why would you want kde over gnome
[02:47] <intelikey> Elsan that is why the sudo's
[02:47] <hyphenated> F-Lelo: or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:47] <Jeffrae> adriyel, because it is Vers 7* and well the problem I am having with my printer make me want to try 8.. I have read some FAQs and thet told me that if my printer does then, then upgrade GS to V8
[02:47] <jonny> nevermind
[02:47] <GTroy> how do I install a driver if it says netwg111 is installed, but netwg111.inf isn't?
[02:47] <davidleeroth> i have kde installed just so i can run kde apps
[02:47] <intelikey> Elsan try this then "sudo umount /Windows -f ;sudo chmod 777 /Windows ;mount -o umask=000 /dev/hd<?#> /Windows "  that should make it world read/write able  <--- repete
[02:47] <jonny> found it, ninjew
[02:47] <gnomefreak> escobar5: when dapper drake gets underway and packages get added to it the backports should come out
[02:47] <davidleeroth> i never use it
[02:47] <Ninjew> jonny: oh heh :)
[02:47] <ben__> Synaptic is unable to authenticate any packages and will not download them either...Heres my error when I try to install j2re: http://pastebin.com/405942
[02:47] <davidleeroth> Konqueror kills Nautilus
[02:47] <ben__> whats the difference?
[02:47] <intelikey> heehhe oops  yeah
[02:48] <bimberi> escobar5: they will probably be the same name and url, hence just commenting them out for now is good
[02:48] <escobar5> ok, thank you all!
[02:48] <Elsan> intelikey: I did put the sudo before... I used exactly this: "sudo umount /Windows -f ;sudo chmod 777 /Windows ;mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /Windows
[02:48] <Elsan> "
[02:48] <qiHEWSfi> does kubuntu have any major downsides compared to ubuntu?
[02:48] <kingright> what does
[02:48] <intelikey> Elsan try this then "sudo umount /Windows -f ;sudo chmod 777 /Windows ;sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hd<?#> /Windows "  that should make it world read/write able  <--- fixed repete
[02:48] <F-Lelo> thanks ppl ;)
[02:48] <davidleeroth> rm -rf /dev/hda1/* :)
[02:48] <kingright> E: Malformed line 36 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[02:48] <davidleeroth> lol
[02:48] <kingright> E: The list of sources could not be read.mean?
[02:48] <davidleeroth> can anyone help me with a kernel issue?
[02:48] <GTroy> how do I remove a file?
[02:48] <intelikey> yeah i missed the last sudo Elsan; my bad not yours.
[02:48] <davidleeroth> rm
[02:48] <davidleeroth> gtroy, use rm
[02:48] <L4me> hi ive downloaded install cd .iso and i burned the image up on a cd then when i wanna boot it
[02:48] <gnomefreak> qiHEWSfi: its pretty much what the person likes i wouldnt say there are downsides to one and not the other
[02:48] <L4me> it wont
[02:49] <GTroy> any quotations?
[02:49] <nickrud> kingright, you have a typo in your sources.list
[02:49] <jonny> ninjew: this is going to seem like the stupidest question ever but: how can you play the songs?
[02:49] <L4me> any quote?
[02:49] <qiHEWSfi> gnomefreak that's a roger
[02:49] <kingright> how it was fine i have did nothin to it
[02:49] <L4me> i have tried sbm but same thing
[02:49] <gnomefreak> jonny: thats not as stupid as it sounds i have programs installed im not sure how to get to run :(
[02:49] <intelikey> Elsan the  ;  is a [return]   in the command line.   i was using it to link several commands togather, like a script....
[02:50] <jonny> lol
[02:50] <nickrud> kingright, if you'd post it to paste.ubuntu.nl ...
[02:50] <Elsan> intelikey: YES it did work! Thanks you! I was scared of having to personalize my Linux for the 8th time in 4 days...
[02:50] <jonny> ninjew ?
[02:50] <Ninjew> jonny: Well, you will have to pull them from the ipod first, then play them when they are on your computer
[02:50] <Ninjew> jonny: well, actually, 1 second
[02:50] <jonny> ok
[02:50] <gnomefreak> theres a program in synaptic that plays romantic songs and stuff and i dont have first clue how to get it to run
[02:50] <qiHEWSfi> http://www.verkkokauppa.com just for the sillyness of it, check that out =)
[02:50] <qiHEWSfi> the BEST net computer store..in suomi, finland =)
[02:51] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, what's the program
[02:51] <Ninjew> jonny: Go to edit -> edit preferences, then click the tools tab, and type in the command for your favorite music player
[02:51] <jonny> ok
[02:51] <davidleeroth> I have a question.... I recently had a soundcard problem. After hours of googling, i found the solution was to build a custom kernel leaving atiixp-modem uninstalled.  So, I compiled the kernel and tried to boot from it... But it said that I had an error (something along the lines of cannot boot from unknown block) Help!!!??
[02:51] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: i dont remember the name of it its beena  while
[02:51] <Ninjew> jonny: Then, in the gtkpod main iwndow, select a tract, click tools, and click play track. That SHOULD work, although I've never tried it
[02:51] <gnomefreak> i will look
[02:52] <intelikey> anyone know a url to a good DOS boot floppy disk image ?   i need a boot disk to get dosemu working..... ?
[02:52] <bimberi> ubutu noboot is <reply> If you're computer won't boot off a CD, check that the bios is set to boot from CD, verify the md5sum of the CD, check that you burned the image and not just the ISO file itself
[02:52] <thirso> Hey can anyone help me whith this error that i get when i try to install RtCW:ET ? http://pastebin.com/405982
[02:52] <davidleeroth> I have a question.... I recently had a soundcard problem. After hours of googling, i found the solution was to build a custom kernel leaving atiixp-modem uninstalled.  So, I compiled the kernel and tried to boot from it... But it said that I had an error (something along the lines of cannot boot from unknown block) Help!!!??
[02:52] <nickrud> davidleeroth, take a look at /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/alsa-base, that may fix your problem
[02:52] <jonny> where do you type the command, ninjew ?
[02:52] <qiHEWSfi> if there was a way to uninsmod .. david that was pointless if there is and disallowing the hotplug for it's part would have sorted you out with a boot
[02:52] <nickrud> no kernel recompile needed
[02:52] <gnomefreak> cynthiune.app
[02:52] <bimberi> gah, fixed the ubotu typo in /msg
[02:52] <agt> intelikey, http://www.bootdisk.com ?
[02:53] <davidleeroth> there is a module in my kernel that interferes with my sound
[02:53] <intelikey> agt ty
[02:53] <Jeffrae> Why do they continue to maintain GS-ESP 7 when 8 is out?
[02:53] <davidleeroth> although it isnt loaded
[02:53] <Ninjew> jonny: In the tools tab in the options, where there is a box for 'command for play now'
[02:53] <Elsan> intelikey: I took a screen of that command, it will be useful for putting the files BACK in after tje reinstall
 i tried sbm to boot up my cd but it wont whts the problem plz...
[02:53] <ben__> is there a gnome newsreader program that imports nzb files?
[02:53] <kingright> so how do i fix me sources.list?
[02:53] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: the program is called cynthiune.app
[02:53] <jonny> ok thnx
[02:54] <nickrud> davidleeroth, the file I pointed you to should disable that modem module for you
[02:54] <jonny> do you know the command for rythembox? ninjew
[02:54] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, and typing that in doesn't start it?
[02:54] <gnomefreak> i will try
[02:54] <NoUse> jonny rhythmbox
[02:54] <crimsun> 1) 8+8.15rc4.dfsg.1-2.1 requires a merge. 2) Limited manpower.
[02:54] <jonny> thats it?
[02:54] <crimsun> ^^ Jeffrae
[02:54] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, yeah, try "cynthiune.app"
[02:55] <NoUse> jonny yeah
[02:55] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: no it does not
[02:55] <Jeffrae> yes?
[02:55] <Ninjew> jonny: Just try typing in: 'rhythmbox %s' -- I'm not 100% on that one, because I don't use rhythmbox
[02:55] <kingright> how do i edit my sources.list?
[02:55] <gnomefreak> i tried with and without .pp tri
[02:55] <crimsun> Jeffrae: see what I wrote above.
[02:55] <Jeffrae> i did
[02:55] <jonny> what do you use
[02:55] <nickrud> kingright, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:55] <Ninjew> jonny: the %s will be replaced with filename of the song on the ipod
[02:55] <kingright> kk ty] 
[02:55] <jonny> ok
[02:55] <Jeffrae> crimsun, I see he fixed a memory leak on the 30th
[02:55] <crimsun> Jeffrae: that's why 8 still isn't in.
[02:55] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, "cynthiune" does nothing either?
[02:55] <Ninjew> jonny: I use amarok and beep-media-player, I'm a KDE user
[02:55] <gnomefreak> command not found
[02:56] <ben__> Can anyone help me fix my repository connection?  Nothing gets authenticated or downloaded.
[02:56] <qiHEWSfi> i am going to download 3 gigs 20kbs . damn opensuse mirrors, the torrents are useless
[02:56] <Ninjew> jonny: (don't put the single-quotes into gtkpod though)
[02:56] <intelikey> yes Elsan always try to make notes of things you have not yet fully learned....    you can also use the .bash_history file in your $HOME to scan for things you did that you may need later.
[02:56] <Jeffrae> ok
[02:56] <Jeffrae> I see
[02:56] <crimsun> Jeffrae: no, the two reasons that I typed, not the date -R from the changelog.
[02:56] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, check the /usr/bin directory, see if it's excuteable is there..
[02:56] <crimsun> Jeffrae: besides, Dapper -just- opened yesterday. A little patience please.
[02:56] <ben__> Can anyone help me fix my repository connection?  Nothing gets authenticated or downloaded. http://pastebin.com/405942
[02:56] <Jeffrae> crimsun, Thanks
[02:56] <gnomefreak> ok tristanmike
[02:56] <comradevik> hi i'm running an apache server and its curently on .. but i tried to do restart command and it said there is no pid running and i looked under var/run/apache2/ and there was abs nothing there.. i'm afraid to reboot my computer cuz then i wont be able to run it again
[02:57] <Jeffrae> crimsun, Thanks buddy... :)  I will wait... I was just curious..
[02:57] <Jeffrae> crimsun, What is Dapper?
[02:57] <NoUse> ben__ something is wrong with your DNS
[02:57] <crimsun> Jeffrae: the codename for Ubuntu 6.04.
[02:57] <adriyel> Jeffrae, next version of Ubuntu, codename: Dapper Drake, 6.04
[02:57] <qiHEWSfi> what can one do with strange squeky sounds coming from my headphones. EMI or an alsa problem?
[02:57] <kingright> this is line 36 deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates universe multiverse main restricted
[02:57] <ben__> NoUse, thanks...how do I check that/fix it?
[02:57] <crimsun> qiHEWSfi: need more context
[02:57] <Jeffrae> ahh
[02:57] <kingright> is that right
[02:57] <qiHEWSfi> the sounds seem to relate to my computer doing stuff
[02:57] <Jeffrae> They aready got Dapper going
[02:57] <Elsan> intelikey: Hum... I can't mount my Linux drive with all the permissions with "sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda6 /linux" It show me this: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda6,
[02:57] <Elsan>        missing codepage or other error
[02:57] <Elsan>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:57] <Elsan>        dmesg | tail  or so
[02:57] <NoUse> ben__ how do you get your IP address?
[02:57] <qiHEWSfi> crimsun that is too weird
[02:57] <jrattner1> When I go "Away" on gaim it still leaves the away message window on my desktop, is that how its suppose to work
[02:57] <ben__> NoUse, my isp's dns server is working fine if thats what you mean
[02:58] <Elsan> Oops! sorry for spam!
[02:58] <adriyel> Jeffrae, its always a work in progress, thats the nature of Open Source
[02:58] <qiHEWSfi> crimsun i have a spread spectrum option enabled in bios
[02:58] <ben__> NoUse,  im connecting ro a router running a dhcp server
[02:58] <davidlee1oth> well i rebooted
[02:58] <Jeffrae> crimsun king, Cool
[02:58] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: it says its a shell script
[02:58] <davidlee1oth> and it didnt work
[02:58] <nickrud> kingright, drop the / after ubuntu
[02:58] <adriyel> they don't crack open a bottle and sit on their asses for 2 years after each release like M$
[02:58] <qiHEWSfi> crimsun is it something you wanna use?
[02:58] <NoUse> ben__ can you browse the web?
[02:58] <davidlee1oth> nickrud
[02:58] <intelikey> Elsan no  "umask" only works for vfat & msdos file systems.
[02:58] <comradevik> if there is no pid file in my directory .. doest that mean i'm in trouble
[02:58] <Jeffrae> adriyel, Ok... But they are working on Dapper when Breezy isn't even released?  Or is it?
[02:58] <ben__> NoUse, yep
[02:58] <bimberi> L4me: sorry, i was called away, apart from those things i don't know sorry
[02:58] <reiki> grrrr.... how do I set the default app to use to open mp3  files (for example)
[02:59] <jonny> whats the command for neep media player?\
[02:59] <jonny> ninjew
[02:59] <linxeh> Jeffrae: breezy has been out a while ?
[02:59] <NoUse> ben__ what does /etc/hosts have in it?
[02:59] <nickrud> davidlee1oth, does lsmod | grep modem show that module as loaded?
[02:59] <Jeffrae> I am running Breezy
[02:59] <Ninjew> jonny: beep-media-player
[02:59] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, can you run it?
[02:59] <icewt> hm.. where do the ubuntu version numbers come from? are they always x.04, x.10, y.04, y.10 etc?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> Jeffrae: breezy came out oct 13th
[02:59] <Jeffrae> but I didn't know it was official
[02:59] <adriyel> Jeffrae, Breezy has been out for awhile, I am running Breezy, what the CRAP are you talking about?
[02:59] <intelikey> for ext# and reiserfs  you set the permissions with chmod Elsan
[02:59] <adriyel> um, yeah. it went gold awhile ago
[02:59] <qiHEWSfi> Jeffrae that's called a pre-alpha state i think
[02:59] <jonny> beep-media-player %s ninjew?
[02:59] <Jeffrae> hahahaha I am behindf
[02:59] <Jeffrae> wow
[02:59] <Mr_Milenko> ext3*
[02:59] <davidlee1oth> no nickrud, it isnt loaded
[02:59] <Ninjew> jonny: yeah,that should work -- as long as you have beep-media-player installed, that is :)
[02:59] <bimberi> ubotu tell reiki about defaultapp
[02:59] <jonny> i di
[02:59] <jonny> do*
[03:00] <Elsan> Can you give the command please, intelikey? From "sudo mount -o /dev/hda6 /linux
[03:00] <Elsan> "
[03:00] <davidlee1oth> but according to some websites my sound will not work unless that is not on the system
[03:00] <nickrud> davidlee1oth, then, if it isn't loaded, I don't see how it could interfere with sound
[03:00] <Ninjew> jonny: then that should definately work
[03:00] <davidlee1oth> My sound works, it just emits no sound
[03:00] <crimsun> qiHEWSfi: yes, it's generally something you want to use, but busses are noisy.
[03:00] <Elsan> intelikey: It's ext3
[03:00] <crimsun> davidlee1oth: cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:00] <bimberi> icewt: <year - 2000>.<month>
[03:00] <davidlee1oth> it is pissing me off big time
[03:00] <jrattner1> linux is beautiful
[03:00] <jrattner1> : )
[03:00] <reiki> thanks bimberi :)  I've done it before but couldn't remember how. It couldn't be much simpler... hahaha
[03:00] <adriyel> jrattner1, not as beautiful as my g/f, but its getting close
[03:00] <ben__> NoUse, there is no etc/hosts
[03:00] <davidlee1oth> davidleeroth@ubuntu:/root$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:00] <davidlee1oth> 0 [IXP            ] : ATIIXP - ATI IXP ATI IXP rev 2 with unknown codec at 0xc0503400, irq 17
[03:00] <bimberi> reiki: yw :)
[03:00] <qiHEWSfi> crimsun yeah got this mini-atx motherboard i think
[03:01] <icewt> bimberi: ahh, ok
[03:01] <Elsan> jrattner: Change the default themes to a theme of a color you like :)
[03:01] <joshuaxls> I am having problems getting breezy to install. While "Installing the Base System", it says it cannot find a kernel in the apt-sources. Could anyone help me with this?
[03:01] <jrattner1> adriyel, damn close : )
[03:01] <crimsun> davidlee1oth: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:01] <kingright> can some one look at my  sources.list and tell me what i need to fix?
[03:01] <NoUse> ben__ not etc/hosts /etc/hosts
[03:01] <jonny> ninjew, I gtg r u gonna be on 2morrow?
[03:01] <xiaogil> how to get Video codec 'MS WMV 8 (win32)' ?
[03:01] <linxeh> busses are noisy?
[03:01] <adriyel> jrattner1, indeed. a themed up and backgrounded breezy (namely mine) is good enough to lick
[03:01] <qiHEWSfi> joshuaxls get the iso by torrent. it should be lightning fast, and like lightning your install goes too
[03:01] <ben__> NoUse, I know, still not there
[03:01] <adriyel> girlfriend walked past monitor two days ago, went "oooohhhhh me want"
[03:01] <bimberi> crimsun: do you have a hotkey for that? :)
[03:01] <gnomefreak> has anyone ever tried to run the funny-manpages app.?
[03:02] <crimsun> bimberi: yeah, the up arrow
[03:02] <kingright> can some one look at my  sources.list and tell me what i need to fix?
[03:02] <NoUse> ben__ that could be part of your problem
[03:02] <bimberi> crimsun: lol
[03:02] <kingright> http://pastebin.com/405992
[03:02] <Jeffrae> If I uninstall gs-esp and install gs, will that take over on its own
[03:02] <jonny> ninjew ?
[03:02] <Ninjew> jonny: Sorry -- was talking to a friend
[03:02] <davidlee1oth> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3623
[03:02] <qiHEWSfi> joshuaxls, in general, it's good to have a backup cd..at least
[03:02] <ben__> NoUse, interesting...wat should be there?  I have a list of hosts in network settings
[03:02] <jrattner1> adriyel, you got a screen shot?
[03:02] <Ninjew> jonny: I hopefully should be around, buit if I"m not, ask to see if someone else is that can helkp
[03:02] <jonny> r u gonna be on tomorow (xchat that is)
[03:02] <qiHEWSfi> just a little break
[03:02] <adriyel> jrattner1, s'pose I could get one
[03:03] <intelikey> Elsan if you want every thing in there world readable sudo chmod -R +r+r+r /mount.point      but i caution you about changing permissions on things that the system will later try to use..... YOU WILL BREAK THINGS....   so make a list of what all you do; so that you can undo it.       and  "man chmod "   it will explain it's use.
[03:03] <joshuaxls> That's how I got it, and I burned it onto a CD an I'm installing it from a CD. The first time I tried to install Breezy, I didn't get this error, but my computer froze up at a later step. So I rebooted and reformatted, and now it gives me this error.
[03:03] <jonny> ok thanks so much for your help!
[03:03] <gnomefreak> kingright: why are your main sources #out?
[03:03] <adriyel> jrattner1, where do you suggest I host this mother?
[03:03] <jrattner1> yeh i got the same problem
[03:03] <jrattner1> haha
[03:03] <adriyel> got email?
[03:03] <adriyel> I got a gmail acct
[03:03] <NoUse> ben__ put it this way, I've never seen a Linux box without a hosts file
[03:03] <crimsun> davidlee1oth: mute Capture and External Amplifier
[03:03] <davidlee1oth> ok
[03:03] <Elsan> intelikey: No problem with readability, I'm going to reinstall, I just made a stupid error
[03:03] <crimsun> davidlee1oth: and Headphone, too
[03:04] <NoUse> ben__ it defines hosts for your local network usually
[03:04] <gnomefreak> i got a few gmail acct.
[03:04] <ben__> NoUse, Lol
[03:04] <adriyel> jrattner1, message me your email and I'll send it to you
[03:04] <davidlee1oth> ok i did it
[03:04] <scotty> hi
[03:04] <kingright> i sobt know
[03:04] <ben__> NoUse, well they exist somewhere...system/administration/network has a list of hosts, if thats the same
[03:04] <gnomefreak> kingright: this shows that all but 4 of your sources are commented out that means that the sources wont be used
[03:04] <davidlee1oth> it works!
[03:04] <ben__> NoUse,  do you have any suggestions?
[03:04] <davidlee1oth> crimsun, I BOW DOWN TO YOU
[03:04] <kingright> look here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3624
[03:04] <intelikey> Elsan good idea to "ls -lAR /where.ever > permissions "   so you can later go to the file "permissions " and see what it is supposed to be.
[03:05] <kingright> how do i fix it?
[03:05] <davidlee1oth> listen up everybody
[03:05] <scotty> listens
[03:05] <crimsun> that won't be necessary, thanks.
[03:05] <davidlee1oth> no take it
[03:05] <NoUse> ben__ I don't really know
[03:05] <crimsun> (besides, I prefer Gary Cherone as the vocalist)
[03:05] <davidlee1oth> HUH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
[03:06] <davidlee1oth> WHAGTASAHSAYTWGFVDSTRWVSBPIW'KXNBFGVP'[WQ
[03:06] <davidlee1oth> A
[03:06] <gnomefreak> kingright: take the # away from them
[03:06] <ben__> NoUse,  i just found it
[03:06] <davidlee1oth> DUDE i thought you were cool :(
[03:06] <agt> congrats davidlee1oth :)
[03:06] <ben__> are you in #flood?
[03:06] <jrattner1> adriyel, i got a nice one too i just took
[03:06] <Elsan> intelikey: I don't understand.
[03:06] <crimsun> davidlee1oth: never claimed to be cool :-)
[03:06] <ben__> NoUse, are you in #flood ?
[03:06] <davidlee1oth> lol crimsun, will the sound work when i reboot?
[03:06] <crimsun> davidlee1oth: yes
[03:06] <adriyel> jrattner1, let me know what you think
[03:06] <Jeffrae> Now he is King Crimson!
[03:06] <kingright> a;ll f the #?
[03:06] <NoUse> ben__ yes
[03:06] <davidlee1oth> thank you, you have solved a problem no one else knew the answer to
[03:07] <crimsun> Jeffrae: (actually it's from Dream Theater's "A Change of Seasons")
[03:07] <gnomefreak> the ones that are commenting out the sources
[03:07] <ben__> NoUse, pasted...
[03:07] <Jeffrae> Cool
[03:07] <adriyel> crimsun, wow, someone who listens to Dream Theater, sweet
[03:07] <Jeffrae> crimsun,  I said that because you were corwned by davidleeroth
[03:07] <Jeffrae> hehe
[03:07] <gnomefreak> kingright: give me a min i will give you the line numbers to take the # out
[03:07] <agt> Okay, why would beep media player work for me, but Banshee freezes when I try play an mo3 ?
[03:07] <crimsun> ok, back to on-topic stuff...
[03:07] <agt> mo3 = mp3
[03:07] <kingright> kk
[03:08] <NoUse> ben__ does synaptic work?
[03:08] <Jeffrae> adriyel, I like some Dream Theater.... I am mostly into Procupine Tree Though...
[03:08] <jrattner1> adriyel, i sent you a good one
[03:08] <kingright> are you looking at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3624 ?
[03:08] <ben__> NoUse, It runs...but nothing will authenticate in it or download, cant refresh repository indexi either
[03:08] <kingright> it has numbers
[03:08] <pupil> what do I do about this error?
[03:08] <pupil> Makefile.inc:139: *** KERNELCONF: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12//.config does not exist..  Stop.
[03:08] <crimsun> Jeffrae: more suitable for #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:08] <NoUse> ben__ but a web browser works fine? did you just install Ubuntu?
[03:08] <pupil> ohh
[03:08] <ben__> no...its been working
[03:08] <Jeffrae> crimsun, Sorry dude...
[03:08] <NoUse> ben__ did you change anything?
[03:08] <crimsun> np
[03:08] <ben__> NoUse,  Its been working, and a webbrowser works fine
[03:09] <intelikey> Elsan the ls command will list the files recursively including ownership and permissions  the redirect ">" will put the output in a new file called "permissions"  in the example i gave.   then if you break something you can search the file "permissions " for that file name and restore the ownership and permissions to what there were before.
[03:09] <qiHEWSfi> anyone know of a downloading source of free music..?
[03:09] <adriyel> jrattner1, k, cool, what do you think of mine? I suppose I should shown you the applications menu, but no big deal
[03:09] <nekostar> yes qiHEWSfi
[03:09] <ben__> NoUse, I installed a program 'anon proapticxy' but did a "complete removal" in syn
[03:09] <nekostar> try archive.org :)
[03:09] <qiHEWSfi> nekostar i mean legal
[03:09] <ben__> NoUse, Sorry, anon-proxy was its name
[03:09] <crimsun> bt.etree.org
[03:09] <nekostar> many many many TB of music
[03:09] <nekostar> its legal
[03:09] <ben__> NoUse, which sounds suspect, but i checked my proxy settings
[03:09] <Ninjew> PorcupineTreeFan: nice name :)
[03:09] <NoUse> ben__ you have apt configured to use a proxy
[03:09] <qiHEWSfi> what is it nekostar
[03:09] <nekostar> look at their terms of hosting its rather nice :O
[03:09] <ben__> NoUse, synaptic isnt configured to
[03:09] <nekostar> they get permission from the bands and the like
[03:09] <ben__> NoUse,  I checked in the pref
[03:09] <jrattner1> adriyel, i like it
[03:10] <Elsan> intelikey: Now I understand! Thanks. I just didn't see what was the use to put the permissions in a file with >
[03:10] <NoUse> ben__ look in /etc/apt
[03:10] <nekostar> there is direct download and also torrents :)
[03:10] <ben__> NoUse,  ok
[03:10] <qiHEWSfi> nekostar can you give me an address
[03:10] <nekostar> i did
[03:10] <nekostar> :D
[03:10] <adriyel> jrattner1, thank you.
[03:10] <gnomefreak> lines: 005, 009, 018, 020, 021, 023, 024, 030, 031, 032, 040, 041, 042, 047, 050, 052, 054\
[03:10] <ben__> what am i looking for?
[03:10] <adriyel> you notice the icons at the topic jrattner1 ?
[03:10] <qiHEWSfi> nekostar if it's completely legal. no warez for me
[03:10] <jrattner1> adriyel, yeh, i like doom, I got americas army its fun too
[03:10] <watnou> wawa
[03:11] <ben__> NoUse, what should I look for in that folder
[03:11] <intelikey> Elsan you would be supprised how often we hear "anyone know that the permissions are supposed to be on <blah> "    :)
[03:11] <kingright> u find it?
[03:11] <NoUse> ben__ also paste the output of 'export' in #flood
[03:11] <qiHEWSfi> jrattner you could try out cube if you got the hardware. open source beauty fps
[03:11] <nickrud> gnomefreak, doesn't he need to fix the typo in 35; the extraneous slash following ubuntu in the url?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> kingright:  they all look different to me but if you get errors after un commenting those lines let me know
[03:11] <alpha232> is there a way to run X without a windowmanager?
[03:11] <adriyel> jrattner1, yeah, got UT2004, Steam/HL2/CSS/DOD:S, Doom3...Quake4 in a couple days
[03:11] <jrattner1> adriyel, did you have to buy the cd's?
[03:11] <kingright> how do i do that>?
[03:11] <benplaut> can someone here make a really, really simple script for me?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> nick i didnt say 35
[03:11] <agt> qiHEWSfi, are you looking for legal music downloads? http://www.legaltorrents.com/index.htm ?
[03:11] <intelikey> alpha232 'startx'
[03:12] <nickrud> gnomefreak, I know
[03:12] <qiHEWSfi> agt thankyou
[03:12] <NoUse> ben__ declare -x HTTP_PROXY="http://localhost: "
[03:12] <adriyel> jrattner1, meh? cd's for what game?
[03:12] <NoUse> ben__ that means its trying to use a proxy
[03:12] <jrattner1> adriyel, all of them, there not free to download are they?
[03:12] <gnomefreak> kingright:  take out the last / after ubuntuin line 35
[03:12] <ben__> NoUse, in export...looks like proxy is set to localhost
[03:12] <ben__> NoUse, Right thats what I saw too...so how do I fix that?
[03:12] <gnomefreak> sorry nick i read it wrong and missed that one
[03:13] <ben__> NoUse, And what should I look for in /etc/apt?
[03:13] <adriyel> jrattner1, none of my games are pirated. I support developers who make Linux versions...
[03:13] <jrattner1> adriyel, is it loki games...?
[03:13] <NoUse> ben__ forget /etc/apt, we've found your problem
[03:13] <PorcupineTreeFan> Maybe I could do a really light version of windows 98 on top of linux just for printing.. :)
[03:13] <nickrud> yeah, that's the actual problem, I think.
[03:13] <adriyel> jrattner1, dude...loki is dead.
[03:13] <gnomefreak> oh and line 36 take out one of the debs
[03:13] <ben__> NoUse,  Ok great...so how do I change that setting?
[03:13] <Elsan> intelikey: There's an advantage to reinstalling again, I can add more space to my Linux partition because I uninstalled some games on Windows in prevision of using Cedega. I had put my swap partition before my ext3 partition, so I couldn't add space with Partition Magic.
[03:13] <PorcupineTreeFan> even 95 if possivle...
[03:13] <adriyel> jrattner1, cedega.
[03:13] <jrattner1> adriyel, whats the website
[03:13] <adriyel> jrattner1, *tilts head* you've never heard of cedega/wine ?????
[03:13] <watnou> *yawnz*
[03:14] <jrattner1> adriyel, never... I'm not much of a gamer though to be honest
[03:14] <jrattner1> adriyel, i do perl programming
[03:14] <kingright> nope same thing
[03:14] <NoUse> ben__ that is being set in either /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc
[03:14] <gnomefreak> did you fix the typos kingright
[03:14] <intelikey> sure.   i reinstall about twice a month whether i need too or not......  :)
[03:14] <adriyel> jrattner1, it's transgaming or wine, either one. I like the screenie btw
[03:14] <qiHEWSfi> agt thanks for the info but i think ill stick to shoutcast and my local library
[03:14] <adriyel> jrattner1, perl hacker eh? I'll stick with my gcc + assembler
[03:15] <qiHEWSfi> agt not really familiar with indie
[03:15] <jrattner1> haha
[03:15] <jrattner1> im not that good with perl yet still
[03:15] <gnomefreak> <<would really like to know why you have so many sources in ther
[03:15] <Jeffrae> hi
[03:15] <Jeffrae> seeing if Gaim is worth using for irc
[03:15] <Jeffrae> I am use to X-Chat
[03:15] <Jeffrae> hehe
[03:15] <aclonedsheep> NoUse: I wasnt paying attention to my battery and the laptop died...im on my PC now , laptop is rebooting (this is ben)
[03:16] <adriyel> Jeffrae, I generally don't bother and use xchat for IRC
[03:16] <adriyel> plus, I like the xchat-text package :)
[03:16] <qiHEWSfi> http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/                              this one is very good looking and full of content. a multiplayer/singleplayer active open source fps
[03:16] <gnomefreak> i think im using epic now
[03:16] <Jeffrae> I think I am going back to X-Chat.. I like the features for irc on x-chat
[03:16] <Jeffrae> bye
[03:16] <NoUse> aclonedsheep did you get my instructions?
[03:16] <kingright> can some one pastebin me a copy of sources.list dor 5.04 with the universe multiverse?
[03:16] <BucketHeadFan> Back
[03:16] <aclonedsheep> noUse: no It cut out before i got to...been a long day i ignored the battery warning...heh
[03:17] <aclonedsheep> it boots awfully slow...
[03:17] <aclonedsheep> 'configuring network interface' seems to take a while, but one thing at a time, heh
[03:17] <BucketHeadFan> can I VPN to a Windows VPN server?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> king are they the main 2 outside of the default ones that you want?
[03:18] <qiHEWSfi> that is the my case two. my machine is loaded with hardware, but still i think an athlon xp 2200+ with one gb 400mhz ddr should take less time to boot
[03:18] <qiHEWSfi> the boot status bar and graphics don't show up too
[03:18] <NoUse> aclonedsheep that is being set in either /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc
[03:18] <jmg> guys i think my keyboard map is bung
[03:18] <kingright> juat the defualt with universe multiverse
[03:18] <gnomefreak> i have my breezy sources at www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc click on linux link on left and there are there take out word breezy and add hoary
[03:18] <jmg> control-alt doesnt work any more
[03:19] <jmg> "linux" key doesnt work (meta)
[03:19] <aclonedsheep> ok...
[03:19] <kingright> paste it on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:19] <gnomefreak> ok
[03:19] <jmg> keyboard repeats have stopped any way i can reconfigure?
[03:19] <qiHEWSfi> almost seems that my friend's celeron 600 boots faster. that is soo strange
[03:19] <jmg> any ideas?
[03:20] <jmg> xmodmap broken?
[03:20] <aclonedsheep> nouse: how do I edit those...
[03:20] <qiHEWSfi> i have my harddrive as dma 100 ubuntu has always behaved like this for me
[03:21] <kingright> make sure its for 5.04
[03:21] <jmg> brb
[03:21] <kingright> for 5.04 pls
[03:21] <comradevik> i got this scripts debian.noip2.sh  how do i run it
[03:22] <gnomefreak> kingright: here is the brezy list change the word breezy to hoary and add your cd inplace of mine and add backports
[03:22] <qiHEWSfi> comradavik right click and run in terminal should work
[03:22] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3625
[03:22] <aclonedsheep> NoUse: are you still there? im having trouble changing the setting...not sure what im doing
[03:22] <NoUse> aclonedsheep sudo gedit filename
[03:22] <kingright> i dont know how to do that
[03:22] <aclonedsheep> oh ok
[03:22] <gnomefreak> ok hold on ill change them for you
[03:22] <ProcupineTree> I would love to run ubuntu on my i5 system... :)
[03:23] <comradevik> qiHEWSfi, dont i have to make it executable first?
[03:23] <qiHEWSfi> comradevik maybe only heard the details once. you can just try.
[03:24] <Rotan> where can i find libdvdcss?
[03:24] <Rotan> like... what repository?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> kingright: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3626
[03:25] <aclonedsheep> NoUse I dont see it in any of those three files
[03:25] <Rotan> ...
[03:25] <alpha232> OMG has anyone played those MegaTouch video games? like the ones at bars and stuff? they have a flatscreen LCD computer that runs DEB and is so so coool!
[03:25] <gnomefreak> kingright: keep your fist repo the cd one there and take out all else and add those
[03:25] <Rotan> that's sweet, alpha
[03:26] <Rotan> ... still, anyone know where i can find libdvdcss?
[03:26] <NoUse> aclonedsheep have you rebooted or logged out/in since you removed the proxy software?
[03:26] <aclonedsheep> yeh
[03:26] <alpha232> Rotan, really it is! i just wish i could get my hands on one of the machines
[03:26] <NoUse> aclonedsheep which one?
[03:27] <aclonedsheep> NoUse, ive restarted a few tiems
[03:27] <NoUse> aclonedsheep ok, try in  /etc/environment
[03:27] <anup> is there a guide for cd roms/cd burning in linux that i can look at?
[03:27] <CJhobgood> help please: i am isntalling ubuntu for the first time and its INTALLING PACKAGES and i got 69% through that and it wont go farther.  it is currently at "Installed python-gadfly"
[03:28] <aclonedsheep> NoUse: not there either
[03:28] <djjason> is anyone here using bitlbee?
[03:28] <ksmurf_> anyone know about the UsePAM option of ssh.  theres nothing in the man
[03:28] <NoUse> aclonedsheep I have no idea, its being set somewhere but I don't know where
[03:28] <crimsun> ksmurf_: any specific reason you want to enable that?
[03:29] <aclonedsheep> nouse, im doing export again and i dont see http_proxy in tehre at all anymore
[03:29] <aclonedsheep> but synaptic still wont work right, lol
[03:29] <ksmurf_> I'm trying to disable passwords and only use keys
[03:29] <NoUse> aclonedsheep apt either?
[03:29] <xjjoe01> hello all
[03:30] <crimsun> ksmurf_: why not use passphrase auth+keychain?
[03:30] <aclonedsheep> NoUse, aptget cant resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com...same sorta error
[03:30] <ksmurf_> crimsun I'm unfamiler with ssh so I know not how to set it up
[03:30] <xjjoe01> I have a question.... I changed my root password and now my GUI applications are still using my sudu passwords even if it asks for the root password...
[03:30] <kjs3> How about a OTP, like OPIE or S/Key?
[03:31] <crimsun> kjs3: sure, but they require external patches
[03:31] <ksmurf_> !ssh
[03:31] <ubotu> from memory, ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[03:31] <NoUse> aclonedsheep run this: sudo grep HTTP_PROXY /etc/*
[03:31] <kjs3> so?
[03:31] <CJhobgood> anyone know why the installation would just stop at 69% (it did it twice in a row) or how i can resolve the issue?
[03:31] <xjjoe01> CJhobgood, do you run MD5sums before you burned the cd?
[03:32] <kudude> Can GParted convert NTFS to FAT32 without formating?
[03:32] <CJhobgood> i am not sure
[03:32] <crimsun> kjs3: it's probably easiest to start ksmurf_ off with something manageable
[03:32] <CJhobgood> i dont know what that is
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> kudude: haha... no
[03:32] <CJhobgood> im a n00b at linux
[03:32] <xjjoe01> you probly have a bad cd
[03:32] <aclonedsheep> NoUse: returns nothing
[03:32] <crimsun> ksmurf_: here, I'll walk you through it.
[03:32] <CJhobgood> hmm
[03:32] <ksmurf_> k
[03:32] <crimsun> ksmurf_: in a Terminal, execute ssh-keygen
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> kudude: NTFS is not even remotely vaguely at all close to FAT32
[03:32] <kudude> HrdwrBoB, any tools in Linux can do that?
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> you cannot 'convert' as such
[03:32] <CJhobgood> last time it froze at a different installing package
[03:32] <xjjoe01> My best guess is you will have to re-dowload the CD
[03:33] <crimsun> ksmurf_: you probably want ''ssh-keygen -tdsa''
[03:33] <CJhobgood> python-pex_____ (i dont remember it exactly)
[03:33] <kudude> guess I'm gonna have to wait till I download PartitionMagic 8.0
[03:33] <CJhobgood> but ill try re-downloading it
[03:33] <CJhobgood> thanx for the help.
[03:33] <kudude> I hear that does it without a problem.
[03:33] <xjjoe01> insall a MD5sum checking program and check the image
[03:33] <xjjoe01> yupers
[03:33] <kjs3> As I recall there was an opie pam module in one of the extra libpam packages.  Pretty simple, as I recall.
[03:33] <CJhobgood> is that program for linux?
[03:33] <CJhobgood> cuz im on OS X right now
[03:34] <ksmurf_> k
[03:34] <kudude> X-Chat sucks.. I like Konversation.
[03:34] <NoUse> CJhobgood did you use bittorrent to download the image?
[03:34] <CJhobgood> no i used http
[03:34] <CJhobgood> should i use bittorrent?
[03:34] <NoUse> CJhobgood always :-)
[03:34] <xjjoe01> on your apple box, open up a command line prompt and type md5sums
[03:34] <CJhobgood> oh ok thanx
[03:34] <CJhobgood> whats the bittorrent link
[03:34] <CJhobgood> i couldnt find one
[03:34] <Tokenizer> hi. ... i'm new to linux.. and using Ubuntu 5.10 ....... if device manager says the name of my sound card, and all volumes are up, is there a reason my sound wouldn't be working?
[03:34] <CJhobgood> in case i have to redownload
[03:34] <linxeh> are there still no IRC clients for linux that have the mirc style MDI interface ? :/
[03:35] <xjjoe01> if that works, add the iso name and hit enter
[03:35] <ksmurf_> k crimsun done
[03:35] <kudude> HrdwrBoB, so there's no other tools on linux to do what I want ha?
[03:35] <xjjoe01> the correct sums are located at the same place you downloaded the ios
[03:35] <xjjoe01> iso
[03:35] <NoUse> aclonedsheep I'm out of ideas, try creating a test user and see if the problem exists for that user, that will tell you if the setting is local to your user
[03:35] <NoUse> aclonedsheep but I'm out for now
[03:35] <dabaR> Tokenizer: ask crimsun when he is done.
[03:36] <cge> In the forums someone claimed tetex 3 was in dapper, but it doesn't seem to be there for me. Is it actually there?
[03:36] <hosler> what packages do i need to have installed so i can play mp3s?
[03:36] <xjjoe01> hosler, just read the ubuntu installation notes.  it will tell you everything
[03:36] <hosler> ok
[03:36] <tristanmike> hosler, "gstreamer0.8-mad"
[03:36] <dabaR> hosler: the bot told you
[03:36] <escobar5> hello again, i'm not getting audio in totem, any ideas?
[03:36] <Tokenizer> sure. ... to be specific, i can hear sound coming out of myspeaker as if someone is tapping on a microphone..... ... as if the drivers would have switched my input/output jacks when installing Sound blaster card....
[03:37] <aclonedsheep> nouse: i appreciate all the effort you put in...
[03:37] <aclonedsheep> hopefullyi get this
[03:37] <dabaR> escobar5: what de do you use?
[03:37] <Slaj_R> I've got a wine problem: Winecfg autodetects oss, but when I click "configure," the system displays "couldn't open wineoss.drv."  Google is leading me nowhere.
[03:37] <escobar5> dabaR, what?
[03:37] <dabaR> do you use gnome?
[03:37] <escobar5> oh, sorry, yes
[03:37] <crimsun> ksmurf_: you should now have an ~/.ssh/id_dsa and an ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub
[03:38] <ksmurf_> yes
[03:38] <dabaR> escobar5: paste output of amixer onto a pastebin
[03:38] <crimsun> kjs3: sure, you can walk him through that if you'd like
[03:38] <escobar5> dabaR, how do i get the output of amixer??
[03:38] <Tokenizer> nice. got it to work....... nice... gconf
[03:38] <crimsun> ksmurf_: now scp ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub to your remote host(s)
[03:39] <dabaR> escobar5: in a terminal
[03:39] <Tokenizer> i lub this linux thing.... and i'm a microsoft person...... msdn account and all that..... but now... this is my thing.
[03:39] <escobar5> dabaR, and where is amixer?
[03:39] <Tokenizer> quit
[03:40] <kudude> anybody here pretty good with vmware worksation?
[03:40] <ksmurf_> crimsun so that would be scp ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub user@host
[03:40] <crimsun> ksmurf_: user@host:  but yes
[03:41] <ksmurf_> k
[03:41] <escobar5> how do i get the output of amixer?
[03:41] <ksmurf_> done
[03:41] <tristanmike> escobar5, just type "amixer" in a terminal
[03:42] <z3r0x> hi @ all
[03:42] <crimsun> ksmurf_: now on the remote host(s), echo ~/id_dsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 && rm ~/id_dsa.pub
[03:42] <crimsun> ksmurf_: err, s/echo/cat/
[03:43] <z3r0x> I have ubuntu 5.10 which has a splashscreen during the boot prozess. how can I change the resolution to 1024x768 ?
[03:43] <dabaR> is there a uml modeling tool for linux? dia?
[03:43] <escobar5> dabaR, ok, here's the output: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3627
[03:43] <ksmurf_> s/echo/cat or /echo/cat
[03:44] <iceman> Anyone able to help me Configure Wine "Diablo II" to Find the Internet ?
[03:44] <help_me> quick question: how can i change the number of lines the mouse scroll button scrolls per turn?
[03:44] <crimsun> ksmurf_: cat
[03:44] <cemo> hey
[03:44] <crimsun> ksmurf_: as in cat ~/id_dsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 && rm ~/id_dsa.pub
[03:44] <cemo> i cracked windows!.. i use it freely.. its free now:) no need to linux
[03:44] <NeverDream> lol
[03:44] <NeverDream> cemo: it's not that simple, I'm afraid
[03:44] <nalioth> cemo: #ubuntu-offtopic  please
[03:45] <cemo> NeverDream: thats the reason why they change the word of FREE to OPEN :)
[03:45] <dabaR> escobar5: if you run alsamixer, is the master turned down?
[03:45] <cemo> nalioth : bla bla..
[03:45] <dabaR> haha cemo, see ya
[03:46] <tristanmike> cemo, careful of who's toes you step on...
[03:46] <z3r0x> how can I change the resolution of my console?
[03:46] <cemo> tristanmike : uvv
[03:46] <escobar5> dabaR, is in 74
[03:48] <wasd> Hello!
[03:48] <vbgunz> hello all, Emacs is not included in Ubuntu by default?
[03:48] <crimsun> ksmurf_: done?
[03:48] <cemo> dabaR : pardon.
[03:48] <ksmurf_> crimsun I have an issue .  would the command be  cat ~/id_dsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 && rm ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub?
[03:49] <dabaR> escobar5: try to unmute the iec output with "m" in alsamixer
[03:49] <wasd> Can anyone direct me to a website that can help with creating an instance of zope after installing it.  I have tried zope.org already! :P
[03:49] <crimsun> ksmurf_: no, unless you scped id_dsa.pub to ~/.ssh/ on the remote host(s)
[03:49] <cge> vbgunz: I don't think it is installed by default - but it is quite easy to install with apt-get.
[03:50] <vbgunz> cge: thanks, I am just running through some tutorials that require emacs
[03:50] <vbgunz> sudo apt-get install emacs?
[03:50] <vbgunz> I'll try it now
[03:50] <ksmurf_> i scp ~/.ssh/id_sda.pub user@host
[03:50] <cge> vbgunz: Probably emacs21
[03:51] <vbgunz> cge, before I go ahead and try to download Emacs... Has it been replaced? For example, I know I have vi... Should I use this instead?
[03:51] <escobar5> dabaR, y don't get it, what iec output?
[03:51] <crimsun> ksmurf_: please tell me that you used user@host: not user@host
[03:51] <alpha232> my god ubuntu is so fat.. gack
[03:51] <joshs> I am trying to install ubuntu using grub and no external cdrom or floppy drive.  Once the kernel comes up, it is initializing my display and freezing.. what options should I pass to the kernel to make it stay pure text/
[03:51] <cge> vbgunz: No, you can go ahead and download it.
[03:51] <vbgunz> cge: ok
[03:52] <twisted_maple> looking for help with isa soundcard
[03:52] <alpha232> anyone know if http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ is down?
[03:52] <ksmurf_> Your public key has been saved in /home/**********/.ssh/id_dsa.pub is what it said
[03:52] <crimsun> alpha232: yes.
[03:52] <wotnarg> Can vmware mount random .iso files, or does it need its own format?
[03:52] <alpha232> crimsun: alternatives?
[03:52] <wasd> does anyone here have experience with zope?
[03:52] <crimsun> ksmurf_: do not remove the ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub on your local machine
[03:52] <vbgunz> cge: wow, to install emacs21 will take up 13.3MB... Isn't that a bit big for a simple consoler editor?
[03:52] <crimsun> ksmurf_: you scp that to your remote machines
[03:52] <LoneWolf071> to repair ubuntu, you insert the disk and type linux repair?
[03:52] <ksmurf_> user@host:  the colon is important?
[03:53] <crimsun> alpha232: there are no backports yet
[03:53] <cge> vbgunz: Emacs is not a simple console editor by any means.
[03:53] <twisted_maple> anyone have any luck with SB AWE64 card?
[03:53] <alpha232> crimsun, but wasn't that one of the locations to get the codecs?
[03:53] <LoneWolf071> to repair ubuntu, you insert the disk and type linux repair?
[03:53] <crimsun> twisted_maple: in a Terminal, sudo modprobe snd-sbawe
[03:53] <bob2> LoneWolf071: nope
[03:53] <crimsun> alpha232: there are no backports for Breezy yet.
[03:53] <vbgunz> cge: sorry I didn't mean it like that... Just the tutes are asking for it to show up in the console... I thought it would be smaller :P
[03:53] <bob2> LoneWolf071: first, define repair
[03:54] <jmg> hey guys i think my xmodmap is broken is this a known bug?
[03:54] <bob2> LoneWolf071: if you mean "my hard disk is failing", you need a new disk
[03:54] <twisted_maple> crimsum --- comes back with device not found.  I set it with isapnp.  Still no go.
[03:54] <crimsun> jmg: that's too vague
[03:54] <unsurreal> what is gnome's file manager, i'm having a problem with konqueror
[03:54] <bob2> LoneWolf071: if you mean "I deleted files I shouldn't have", then tell us what you did
[03:54] <vbgunz> cge: am downloading it now and continuing ahead with the tutes, thank you for pointing out emacs21
[03:54] <LoneWolf071> no, the software is failing...
[03:54] <LoneWolf071> i did apt-get autoclean
[03:54] <crimsun> twisted_maple: describe what you mean by "set it with isapnp"
[03:54] <LoneWolf071> and i reboot and it's failing
[03:54] <bob2> LoneWolf071: "software is failing" is too vague
[03:54] <jmg> crimsun: cant use ctrl+alt, meta not working properly
[03:54] <tristanmike> unsurreal, nautilus
[03:54] <cge> vbgunz: Oh, I wasn't offended, I don't actually use emacs very often - it is quite easy to accuse emacs of being bloated.
[03:54] <crimsun> jmg: hardware detail? current mapping?
[03:54] <bob2> LoneWolf071: you need to actually tell us what is happening
[03:54] <vbgunz> :)
[03:54] <propagandhi> has anyone here seen The Code
[03:54] <crimsun> ksmurf_: have you scped that file to your remote host(s)?
[03:54] <twisted_maple> pnpdump> config.cfg; edited config.cfg; isapnp config.cfg
[03:55] <jmg> crimsun: happening on both my boxes... one is a toshi laptop the other is my workstation at work
[03:55] <ksmurf_> K crimsum i ssh to the other box and entered the command as u said BUT
[03:55] <LoneWolf071> i boot and i get a network failing signel and the X server won't boot and it says (none)user instead of (redrose)user at login
[03:55] <ksmurf_> have the error cat: /home/*********/id_dsa.pub: No such file or directory
[03:56] <crimsun> twisted_maple: is PnP OS enabled in yoru bios?
[03:56] <crimsun> your^
[03:56] <bob2> LoneWolf071: that sounds like you have massive disk corruption
[03:56] <twisted_maple> yes crimsun; did it once with it; once without it.
[03:56] <bob2> ksmurf_: uh, you get asterisks?
[03:56] <crimsun> ksmurf_: probably because you failed to scp it over first
[03:56] <crimsun> twisted_maple: leave it off in bios.
[03:56] <cge> Thinking about emacs, why is there no "emacs" package (or virtual package), especially since emacs21 is the only version of GNU Emacs in breezy as far as I can tell?
[03:56] <jmg> crimsun: what info do you want?
[03:56] <crimsun> twisted_maple: then you need to sudo modprobe snd-sbawe isapnp=0
[03:57] <crimsun> jmg: keyboard info
[03:57] <twisted_maple> ah ha!  I set isapnp=1...
[03:57] <bob2> cge: there's no need for one
[03:57] <ksmurf_> the command I entered wasscp ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub *********@192.168.0.***
[03:57] <jmg> crimsun: the output from xmodmap?
[03:57] <NeverDream> cge: I believe there is an emacs package on the ubuntu cd
[03:57] <cge> bob2, NeverDream: I mean a package named "emacs"
[03:57] <bob2> cge: yes, there's no need for one
[03:57] <bob2> cge: if you want one, you're welcome to upload it to universe
[03:57] <twisted_maple> crimsun -- going to try... thanks.
[03:57] <crimsun> ksmurf_: you CANNOT leave out the trailing colon (':')
[03:58] <ksmurf_> k the colon....I got it
[03:58] <bob2> cge: there's already emacsen
[03:58] <cge> bob2: Ah - I didn't notice that.
[03:58] <LoneWolf071> bob2:well i have never had this before... and i've rebooted millions of time, and never this, but once i ran apt-get autoclean
[03:58] <crimsun> jmg: no, what keymap it's currently using
[03:59] <NeverDream> cge: there's emacs21...
[03:59] <crimsun> jmg: (and what type of keyboard it is)
[03:59] <jmg> keymap? hmm
[03:59] <bob2> LoneWolf071: that's great, but how would rebooting fix it?
[03:59] <SeekForth> i have a question about dual-booting, i already installed ubuntu, now if i want to install windows on a separate partition, will i still be able to boot into ubuntu?
[04:00] <bob2> LoneWolf071: look at the output of "dmesg" after it's been running for a while
[04:00] <bob2> SeekForth: yes, and windows will trash the MBR
[04:00] <NeverDream> SeekForth: last time I did that I had to reinstall GRUB, so have a livecd handy
[04:00] <propagandhi> SeekForth: you should have done it in the reverse order
[04:00] <phiqtion> where can i find the codecs that are not available in the ubuntu starter guide such as wincodecs?
[04:00] <jmg> crimsun: in xorg.conf i have: "xorg" "pc104"
[04:00] <propagandhi> !restricted
[04:00] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[04:00] <jmg> keyboard mapping disabled in kde
[04:00] <bob2> phiqtion: unlearn the word "codecs"
[04:00] <SEJeff> !javadebs
[04:00] <ubotu> Sun Java debs packaged for Ubuntu. Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy))
[04:00] <bob2> phiqtion: /msg ubotu w32codecs
[04:01] <bob2> phiqtion: also, ignore the "starter guide" if it says things like that
[04:01] <bimberi> SeekForth: after installing windows you'll need this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:01] <nalioth> phiqtion: also stay away from ubuntuguide
[04:01] <jmg> bob2: why are we the newspeak dictionary?
[04:01] <crimsun> jmg: then set your meta key in KDE's control center
[04:01] <jmg> bob2: "codec" is a pretty old word
[04:01] <bob2> SeekForth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:01] <bob2> jmg: because it makes people think they are some magic thing, when they really mean "windows dlls"
[04:02] <SeekForth> thanks bimberi bob2 i was looking for something like that :) but i couldn't seem to find it
[04:02] <jmg> bob2: i agree. best to teach them the real use of the word, rather than the wintendo  usage
[04:02] <bimberi> SeekForth: yw :)
[04:02] <jmg> crimsun: cant set in kcontrol no option to set
[04:02] <cge> NeverDream: Yes, I just thought that with a user like vbgunz, the user's first thought will be to do apt-get install emacs. But  this  probably is a minor issue.
[04:02] <crimsun> sure there is, I'd tell you save I'm not in KDE atm
[04:02] <NeverDream> cge: that doesn't work?
[04:03] <crimsun> jmg: please ask in #kubuntu
[04:03] <jmg> crimsun: in kcontrol, option shortcuts, modifiers... no way to change
[04:03] <ctcecil> hello all =] 
[04:03] <jtan325> does anyone here use twinview?
[04:03] <bob2> it's way better for people to know what they're installing, I'd think
[04:03] <cge> NeverDream: No
[04:03] <bob2> reading xemacs documention will confuse you if you use emacs
[04:03] <NeverDream> hmm
[04:03] <vbgunz> emacs does not exist *but* emacs21 does :)
[04:03] <twisted_maple> crimsum: still no go.
[04:04] <twisted_maple> device not found.
[04:04] <NeverDream> vbgunz: there's alway aptitude or synaptic for finding alternate package names
[04:04] <crimsun> twisted_maple: did you pass the necessary parameters to snd-sbawe via modprobe?
[04:04] <SEJeff> emacs will confuse you if you use emacs
[04:04] <bob2> only if you're easily confused
[04:04] <bob2> it makes way more sense than monstrosities like *office
[04:05] <ksmurf> sorry crimsun Battery died.  I'm Up to cat ~/id_dsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 && rm ~/id_dsa.pub
[04:05] <twisted_maple> yes: io, dma1, dma16, irq
[04:05] <crimsun> twisted_maple: there are a host of them: dma16, dma8, irq, awe_port, fm_port, mpu_port, port, isapnp
[04:05] <crimsun> ksmurf: did you execute that on the remote machine(s)?
[04:05] <jtan325> anyone here know how to get separate backgrounds on twinview?
[04:05] <ksmurf> yes
[04:05] <jtan325> i know it's a lame question
[04:05] <bob2> jtan325: #nvidia
[04:05] <crimsun> ksmurf: now ssh into the remote machine(s)
[04:05] <ksmurf> i'm ssh'd in right now
[04:05] <jtan325> ok, thanks
[04:06] <crimsun> ksmurf: it should ask you for a passphrase instead of a password
[04:06] <SEJeff> bob2: I was trolling. emacs is fine, but It gave me the "emacs claw" so I shy away from it :)
[04:06] <traveller> how many of you guys have successfully upgraded from hoary to breezy?? I tried that once, screwed up; reinstalled breezy from a cd, doesn't work; and now i reinstalled hoary :/
[04:06] <bob2> traveller: uh
[04:06] <bob2> traveller: that's a silly question unless you're going to tell us what failed
[04:06] <bob2> traveller: it worked fine for tens of thousands of people
[04:06] <twisted_maple> crimsum -- always get no such device.
[04:07] <ksmurf> k but will it still accept password's from other machines?
[04:07] <dsb> is the firefox/flash problem fixed?
[04:07] <traveller> bob2: i was actually trying to see how many have failed. the reason the clean install of breezy doesn't work has mainly got to do with networking
[04:07] <ksmurf> it asks for a passphrase now
[04:07] <alpha232> ARGH
[04:07] <ctcecil> I'm trying to get my webcam to work with somethin to take pictures... It lists it's full product name and everything in lsusb but wont even work in gnome-meeting
[04:07] <phasegen> does anyone know where there's a good tutorial for playing dvd's on breezy
[04:07] <bob2> traveller: no, the upgrade.  it works for approximately everyone
[04:07] <bob2> traveller: why would you reinstall rather than fixing it?
[04:07] <traveller> the network doesn't seem to start, and gnome depended on dns to do stuff, sometimes even sudo wouldn't work
[04:08] <bob2> phasegen: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:08] <crimsun> twisted_maple: did you specify -all- the values?
[04:08] <alpha232> the pkg gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse doesn't exist
[04:08] <bob2> dsb: firefox/flash problem?
[04:08] <dsb> sites crash using firefox with the flash plugin
[04:08] <phasegen> thankyou bob2
[04:08] <twisted_maple> only snd-sbawe isapnp=0 io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5
[04:08] <twisted_maple>  as per the faq
[04:08] <traveller> bob2: because i have run out of ideas to try to fix the upgrade
[04:08] <traveller> i couldn't even work on it
[04:08] <bob2> dsb: that sounds like a flash problem, have you reported it to macromedia?
[04:08] <bob2> traveller: which is still not a description of the problem
[04:09] <dsb> it works in gentoo
[04:09] <ctcecil> dsb - did you use the firefox plguin installer; that worked perfect for me.
[04:09] <bob2> traveller: what does "network doesn't seem to start" mean?  is your /etc/network/interfaces correct? does ifup'ing it manually work?
[04:09] <bob2> dsb: awesome
[04:09] <ksmurf> it asks for a passphrase now for my lappy but can I block anything but keys???? NO Passwords acceptted?
[04:09] <bob2> ksmurf: edit the sshd config file
[04:09] <phiqtion> nalioth: why stay away from the guide?
[04:09] <dsb> I used the ubuntu install methods
[04:10] <crimsun> twisted_maple: brb
[04:10] <ksmurf> the passphrase is good but my wife can still use the password
[04:10] <ctcecil> do i have to mount my webcam to /dev/video0 or what
[04:10] <traveller> bob2: ifconfig doesn't show any, went to the administration menu to config the interfaces brought them up, but doesn't work for subsequent reboots
[04:10] <bob2> ctcecil: no
[04:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell phiqtion about ubuntuguide
[04:10] <bob2> traveller: ignore the whatever gui tool, look at /etc/network/interfaces
[04:10] <ctcecil> bob2 : why wont it work? lsusb shows perfectly that it recognizes the cam
[04:10] <nalioth> phiqtion: it was good at one time. that time has passed
[04:10] <bob2> traveller: what specifically isn't coming up?  lo, eth0?
[04:11] <traveller> bob2: all of them
[04:11] <bob2> ctcecil: you want to mount it? what filesystem do you think it uses?
[04:11] <phiqtion> nalioth: i dont do everything it says
[04:11] <bob2> ctcecil: lsusb doesn't say anything useful in this case
[04:11] <traveller> i have a netgear car which uses Texas Instruments chipsets
[04:11] <traveller> *netgear card
[04:11] <phiqtion> nalioth: just basic things, and my ubuntu is working beautiful, but thanks
[04:11] <ctcecil> bob2 -- im not sure, it's just a usb webcam, i'm trying to just take some pictures; im a bit "new" to linux, but not too shabby.
[04:11] <bob2> ctcecil: it's reading data from the usb device, nothing more, which just means it is iphysically plugged in
[04:11] <traveller> it usually loads the acx_100 module and shows up as wlan0
[04:12] <bob2> traveller: if you don't have lo loaded, don't waste time on anything else unti lthat is fixed
[04:12] <phiqtion> bob2: the bot didn't gave me any info
[04:12] <bob2> traveller: look at your /etc/network/interfaces, does it look reasonable?
[04:12] <bob2> !+w32codecs
[04:12] <ctcecil> bob2: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 8086:0110 Intel Corp. Easy PC Camera -- but when i run camorama or gnome-meeting it cant find device...
[04:12] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[04:12] <bob2> phiqtion: there
[04:12] <Paradoxx> ...
[04:12] <ctcecil> this EasyUbuntu app has been running FOREVER installing firefox plugins...
[04:13] <bob2> ctcecil: as I said, all lsusb is saying is "yes, this device is electrically connected to the usb port".  it says nothing about whether the kernel or anything else knows how to talk to it
[04:13] <Tokenizer> question: i have a harddrive with my stuff in it, mostly my source codes and projects with no OS installed on it, it's HDB and is of NTFS format, how can i access it through Ubuntu, it recognizes it when i go to "System>Admin'n>Disks" however it doesn't show, how can i mount it basically.. sorry if this question has been asked before
[04:13] <bob2> people are still using easyubuntu?
[04:13] <traveller> bob2: hm....unfortunate the breezy installation is gone now...i'll attempt another upgrade some time later and i'll make sure i keep all system config files and stuff i see
[04:13] <nekostar> hi bob2 :)
[04:13] <ctcecil> bob2: oh, ok; thanks... so i need to find a driver of some sort, correct?
[04:13] <bob2> Tokenizer: /msg ubotu ntfs
[04:13] <traveller> thanks for the help though
[04:13] <bob2> ctcecil: or an application that can talk to it, yes.
[04:13] <bob2> nekostar: howdy
[04:13] <Mr_Milenko> Anyone know of a decent news script that i can put into my current webpage.. kind of like FusionNews?
[04:14] <Paradoxx> grr at beep media player. Why is it that xmms can play wma files and beep media player cannot?
[04:14] <Mr_Milenko> where i can just update and through some php include codes it'll be in my index?
[04:14] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[04:14] <bob2> Paradoxx: beep-media-player is xmms with AA'd menus and less plugins
[04:15] <nekostar> im having trouble getting the dual monitors to do higher resolutions: i have (1024x768, 1024x768) working fine on my fx5200 now ^^;; but i cant seem to get (1280x1024, 1280x1024) to work.. could this be because of my default color depth? if so is there a way to change that live so i can switch b/t modes that you are aware of?
[04:15] <Paradoxx> bob2: i know that its a break off. But does that mean i won't b able to play my .wmas?
[04:15] <bob2> Paradoxx: it means that it may or may not have a plugin for it
[04:15] <bob2> Paradoxx: you can check that as easily as I can
[04:16] <Paradoxx> how?
[04:16] <bob2> apt-cache search beep media
[04:16] <ksmurf> crimsun.... That works great for the keys but the user password still works
[04:16] <bob2> ksmurf: then disable passwordauth in the sshd config file
[04:16] <smacnay> bob2: Are you using ubuntu solely or Debian as well?
[04:16] <bob2> smacnay: both
[04:16] <ksmurf> bob2 k I'll try
[04:17] <twisted_maple> anyother thoughts crimsun?
[04:17] <smacnay> bob2: I usually see you in Debian.  But I am hardly ever here.
[04:17] <smacnay> bob2: cheers
[04:17] <pl3c3b0> hi
[04:17] <pl3c3b0> ^_^
[04:17] <Tokenizer> bob2, thanks
[04:17] <Tokenizer> bob2, it worked
[04:18] <Paradoxx> bob2: how do you get a more thorough description of a package from the command line?
[04:18] <bob2> Paradoxx: apt-cache show packagename
[04:19] <phiqtion> bob2, that command doesn't wprl
[04:19] <phiqtion> work
[04:19] <crimsun> twisted_maple: sorry, was helping a student (office hours)
[04:19] <crimsun> twisted_maple: let me read scrollback
[04:19] <aclonedsheep> crimsun: where do you TA at?
[04:19] <wotnarg> Do you set the CC variable to the executable of the compiler>
[04:19] <Tokenizer> question#2: is Ubuto tar based? ie, can i install tar balls? by traditional  make/install or i have to use sudo... (which looks more like rpm)....... i've been running ubunto for 1 hour now... question#3: what's a good ftp server to for ubunto (i.e it's name)...
[04:19] <DShepherd> my eth0 connection doesnt seem to be working with modem. What tools are theere that I can use to troubleshoot it?
[04:20] <Paradoxx> bob2:  what phiqtion said...
[04:20] <crimsun> aclonedsheep: I'm a prof at NC A&T
[04:20] <bob2> phiqtion: what "command" and in what way does it not work?
[04:20] <aclonedsheep> oh... that is awesome, what do you teach?
[04:20] <bob2> wotnarg: no, it depends on the software build system of whatever you're trying to compile
[04:20] <wotnarg> Tokenizer: #2 its .deb backed, but you can compile source that comes in tar files.
[04:20] <bob2> Tokenizer: "ubuntu"
[04:20] <bob2> Tokenizer: it's based on .debs, but you can obviously install thigns from source if you feel like it
[04:20] <cge> Tokenizer: You can use "checkinstall" to keep track of  things installed from source.
[04:21] <aclonedsheep> i wish my prof's hung out here :)
[04:21] <thesilentkiller> lol
[04:21] <bob2> Tokenizer: sudo is utterly utterly unrelated to rpm, or .deb or any other package management tool.  it simply lets you ru na command as a different user.
[04:21] <phiqtion> bob2: i just need the info about the w32co.....
[04:21] <Tokenizer> thanks... makes sense.... and what's a good ftp server?
[04:21] <Paradoxx> bob2: the apt-cache search show package name dosen't work. It dosen't show anything as output
[04:21] <bob2> Tokenizer: avoiding ftp if it all posible is the best solution, but if you need an anonymous one, I hear vsftpd is good
[04:21] <Tokenizer> beautiful
[04:21] <bob2> phiqtion: ffs, read the bloody channel, the bot told you EXACTLY what to do
[04:21] <Tokenizer> thanks a bunch
[04:21] <bob2> !+w32codecs
[04:21] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[04:21] <bob2> phiqtion: read
[04:22] <crimsun> aclonedsheep: iiiiiiiiii
[04:22] <bob2> DShepherd: what do you think your ethernet interface should be doing with your modem?
[04:22] <crimsun> err, sorry
[04:22] <ashtown> so how does this work if i want to get sound juicer working?
[04:22] <Paradoxx> crimsun: what school is NCA&T?
[04:22] <bob2> DShepherd: I guess you're talking about pppoe?
[04:22] <bob2> ashtown: it doesn't work?
[04:22] <crimsun> aclonedsheep: OS and programming lang
[04:22] <crimsun> Paradoxx: (www.ncat.edu)
[04:22] <ashtown> no it seg faults, it was working fine earlier
[04:22] <crimsun> twisted_maple: you're not passing enough parameters
[04:22] <aclonedsheep> crimsun: neat...I was a CS student but just switched my degree to math
[04:23] <crimsun> twisted_maple: you need to specify as many as you can
[04:23] <crimsun> twisted_maple: the ones I listed are necessary
[04:23] <DShepherd> bob2: I guess so...I look into in thanks
[04:23] <phiqtion> bob2: my bad, i thought it was a PM
[04:23] <ashtown> oh, my gf says it froze earlier and she had to restart. but that shouldnt have done anything
[04:24] <ksmurf> bob2 that worked great. crimsun thanks for the walk through!!!!
[04:24] <aclonedsheep> crimsun you don't care to take a stab at my problem?  my web is working fine but apt-get or synaptic cant connect to the repository...
[04:24] <crimsun> ksmurf: now you can hook it up to keychain for even more usefulness
[04:26] <phiqtion> bob2: where can i get xine from?
[04:26] <vbgunz> hey
[04:26] <vbgunz> no one has spoken in the last 8 minutes?
[04:26] <crimsun> aclonedsheep: what error(s) do you get? Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:26] <bob2> phiqtion: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:26] <vbgunz> NeverDream: I know I can look into Synaptic for alternate names, I just thought about asking if Emacs was installed at all... Luckily, cge, told me the exact name I needed without me resorting to Synpatic in search of it :)
[04:26] <bob2> vbgunz: no
[04:26] <twisted_maple> crimsum:  still get no such device.
[04:26] <phiqtion> bob2: after downloading w32, will mplayer play the files? or any additional config?
[04:26] <Paradoxx> grrr, i can connect to IRC, but i can't connect to msn or suft the net...
[04:26] <Paradoxx> sigh
[04:26] <crimsun> twisted_maple: and you're positive it's a genuine awe?
[04:26] <twisted_maple> Paradoxx --> what about GAIM?
[04:27] <ksmurf> k one more thing .... for the other client do I do the same thing or just transfer my private key from the .ssh dir?
[04:27] <twisted_maple> Yes:  Creative AWE64
[04:27] <twisted_maple> Works great in MT.
[04:27] <twisted_maple> NT
[04:27] <twisted_maple> Works great under Knoppix.
[04:27] <ashtown> any ideas on getting soundjuicer to rip. it plays cds fine.
[04:27] <Paradoxx> twisted_maple: yea, i use gaim to connect to irc + msn etc...
[04:28] <Paradoxx> twisted_maple: instrestingly enough though, i just installed somthing useing apt-get
[04:28] <aclonedsheep> crimsun I can paste everything but its quite simple...well the error is at least...it cant resolve the urls for whatever i try to do, update, install j2re1.4, etc
[04:28] <aclonedsheep> i think i may have a messed up proxy setting SOMEWHERE but i cant find it
[04:29] <aclonedsheep> i installed some program anon-proxy and removed it but it may have left something behind...but it isnt interfering w/ the web
[04:29] <twisted_maple> Crimsum:  Oddly I can get the card to chatter with pnpdump
[04:29] <Paradoxx> whats the command for traceroute?
[04:29] <vbgunz> bob2: why you tell me no? I didnt ask you anything?
[04:30] <bob2> 12:26:20         vbgunz |  no one has spoken in the last 8 minutes?
[04:30] <bob2> 12:26:27           bob2 | vbgunz: no
[04:30] <P8ntKid> Does anybody have a repo to the new version of fluxbox? Fluxbox 0.9.14?
[04:30] <Paradoxx> !trace route
[04:30] <ubotu> Paradoxx: I give up, what is it?
[04:30] <Paradoxx> !traceroute
[04:30] <ubotu> Paradoxx: Wish i knew
[04:30] <vbgunz> oh, so the channel died for 8 minutes?
[04:30] <bob2> Paradoxx: traceroute, surprisingly
[04:30] <bob2> vbgunz: no, not at all
[04:30] <vbgunz> oh ok I died :P
[04:30] <Paradoxx> any1 know the command to do a trace route in the console?
[04:30] <bob2> P8ntKid: is there actually anything new between 0.0.13 and 0.0.14?
[04:30] <ksmurf> crimsun one last thing do I follow the same steps for all my trusted computers?  or do I just use the key from ~/.ssh?
[04:30] <bob2> Paradoxx: dude, traceroute
[04:31] <vbgunz> bob2: thanks for the status report, one day, I'll rank with you...
[04:31] <bob2> Paradoxx: if you don't have it installed, perhaps you should fix that instead of repeating your question here
[04:31] <bimberi> Paradoxx: traceroute isn't installed by default iirc
[04:31] <vbgunz> fellas, have fun, I need to eat...
[04:31] <escobar5> hello, i'm having problems with my sound, for one side, it only works with one app at a time, and i have a 5.1 sound system, but it's only working two speakers, what is happening?
[04:31] <ashtown> i configured soundjuicer with this guys suggestion, it worked for 6 or 7 cds, now it wont work. http://www.emcken.dk/weblog/index.php?url=archives/99-MP3-encoding-with-Sound-Juicer.html
[04:31] <Paradoxx> bob2 thatdosen't work for me...
[04:31] <P8ntKid> bob2, Well. The breezy repos i have, only have 0.9.12. 9.12 and 9.13 run extremely slow on my computer. 9.14 is like lightening
[04:31] <bob2> Paradoxx: please please tell me you're kidding
[04:31] <bob2> Paradoxx: if it says "bash: command traceroute not found", you're just being silly
[04:32] <twisted_maple> Paradoxx: apt-get install traceroute; traceroute www.somewhere.net will do the trick.
[04:32] <Tokenizer> what does it mean if i try to install php via "sudo apt-get install php4" and it says "Couldn't find package php4"
[04:32] <bob2> Paradoxx: go and install it using whatever package management tool you prefer
[04:32] <bob2> Tokenizer: exactly what it says
[04:32] <bob2> Tokenizer: that package does not exist, as far as apt knows
[04:32] <Paradoxx> traceroute isn't installed by default?
[04:32] <bob2> Tokenizer: if you want the apache2 module, you want libapache2-mod-php4
[04:32] <Tokenizer> well yah, i know what it means. but i'm getting the command from ubunto site
[04:32] <bob2> Tokenizer: "ubuntu"
[04:32] <twisted_maple> crimsun: thanks for the help tonight.  W
[04:33] <bob2> Tokenizer: also, you need to give us URLs if you're going to say that
[04:33] <P8ntKid> bob2, Do you just know the breezy testing distro i can get so i can get version 0.9.14?
[04:33] <logikal> hey guys
[04:33] <logikal> How can i dim my monitor?
[04:33] <logikal> it's like too bright
[04:33] <bob2> P8ntKid: there's no such thing as a "breezy testing distro"
[04:33] <nalioth> P8ntKid: compile it yourself
[04:33] <bob2> logikal: uh, use the buttons on the screen
[04:33] <logikal> I did man
[04:33] <neologic> omg! rare event! google is down! *cries*
[04:33] <Paradoxx> bob2: y wouldn't traceroute b installed by default?
[04:33] <logikal> It's all the way down
[04:33] <exhale> is anyone having problem with the 686 kernel?
[04:33] <escobar5> hello, i'm having problems with my sound, for one side, it only works with one app at a time, and the other problem is that i have a 5.1 sound system, but it's only working two speakers, what is happening?
[04:33] <bob2> neologic: no it's not
[04:34] <bob2> neologic: bear in mind they have thousands of machines around the world
[04:34] <twisted_maple> neologic: up here.
[04:34] <ksmurf>  For the my other client do I setup another keypair or just use the on I made on this puter?
[04:34] <bob2> escobar5: configure your apps to use esd
[04:34] <ksmurf> for ssh?
[04:34] <bob2> escobar5: if you have no idea what that means, you're kinda SOL
[04:34] <ctcecil> anyone got any experiance with spca50x drivers? the channel is dead.
[04:34] <bob2> Paradoxx: not my decision
[04:34] <neologic> twisted_maple, elaborate?
[04:34] <bob2> ksmurf: depends on your aim
[04:34] <escobar5> bob2, how do i do that in totem
[04:34] <twisted_maple> google is up in there parts.
[04:34] <twisted_maple> these
[04:34] <bastardkestrel> found my problem finally
[04:35] <Paradoxx> bob2: i knoy its not your decision m8, was more of a rhetorical question, as i was surprised....
[04:35] <wotnarg> where are the kernel headers stored?
[04:35] <ksmurf> ah dumb question..... it just gets added to the autorized keys file... I get it now
[04:35] <bob2> wotnarg: in the linux-headers-$(uname -r) package
[04:35] <bob2> (ie not on your disk unless you install them)
[04:35] <wotnarg> bob2: directory :p
[04:35] <drapelyk> anyone know of a good website to learn about file permissions?
[04:35] <bastardkestrel> found my problem finally
[04:35] <wotnarg> They're installed, but to where.
[04:35] <bob2> wotnarg: dpkg -L linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:35] <bastardkestrel> nvidia is the problem
[04:36] <bastardkestrel> can someone help me with nivida?
[04:36] <bob2> bastardkestrel: you need to ask a specific question
[04:36] <bastardkestrel> i need to disable glx
[04:36] <aclonedsheep> crimsun seems like rebooting it for the upteenth time fixed it...who knows? haha
[04:36] <wotnarg> bob2: Fish is soooo much effort though :p
[04:37] <bob2> bastardkestrel: you mean "disable the binary-only nvidia drivers"? wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto, backwards
[04:37] <drapelyk> anyone know of a good website to learn about file permissions?
[04:37] <bastardkestrel> bob2: i had vesa on this notebook no problem, now with nviida the touchpad is acting weird
[04:37] <bob2> yay nvidia
[04:37] <jtan325> is there a way to easily identify which screen is which on a twinview?
[04:38] <jtan325> sorta like the big numbers that Windows shows...
[04:38] <agt> I've done a server install of Ubuntu, then installed the xubuntu-desktop package. I'm having problems getting my iPod to be recognised ... what packages should I install / modules should I modprobe?
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> jtan325: erm.. to what end?
[04:38] <bastardkestrel> bob2: i only want to disable glx not remove nviida
[04:38] <bob2> jtan325: #nvidia
[04:38] <bastardkestrel> bob2: i can do it in xorg.conf, just found it
[04:38] <exhale> is anyone having problem with the 686 kernel?
[04:38] <bob2> exhale: no
[04:38] <bob2> exhale: be less vague
[04:38] <exhale> graphical issues
[04:38] <twisted_maple> crimsum: are you there?
[04:38] <bob2> agt: xfce is not going to be doing anything magic with it
[04:38] <bastardkestrel> exhale: me too
[04:38] <bob2> exhale: still too vague
[04:39] <Tokenizer> on Ubunto, where can i go to add Mysql as a service? or what do i type in
[04:39] <josh__> hey guys
[04:39] <exhale> when i try to move a window it splits up to squares
[04:39] <escobar5> can anyone help me with my sound problem?
[04:39] <bob2> Tokenizer: ubuntu
[04:39] <neologic> hey, is there a guide somewhere explaining how to get the composite extension working on ubuntu?
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> Tokenizer: that would be 'ubuntu'
[04:39] <bob2> Tokenizer: please stop typing so badly
[04:39] <SEJeff> agt: If you want ipod goodness, use gnome
[04:39] <bastardkestrel> exhale: whats your graphic card?
[04:39] <bob2> Tokenizer: install the mysql-server package using whatever package management tool you like
[04:39] <agt> bob2, SEJeff, wah :(
[04:39] <josh__> can anyone help me instal some nvidia drivers?
[04:39] <Tokenizer> sorry
[04:39] <SEJeff> agt: I got an ipod nano yesterday and was surprised when it worked perfectly in gnome
[04:39] <exhale> bastardkestrel i have tried with both and ati radeon 9800 pro and nvidia geforce mx 440
[04:39] <josh__> its my frst install on linux
[04:39] <bastardkestrel> exhale: me too
[04:39] <bob2> josh__: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:39] <josh__> ;)
[04:40] <twisted_maple> Anyone tell me what options are supported for snd-sbawe module?
[04:40] <frank23> in order do use localhost 127.0.0.1 as a dns server I need to install a dns server right? is there an advantage to doing this?
[04:40] <Tokenizer> bob2, it's installed. i want to run it, so i type mysql at terminal it says wrong command
[04:40] <exhale> its messed up i tell you
[04:40] <bastardkestrel> exhale: try to disable glx in xorg.conf
[04:40] <agt> SEJeff, yeah I had it working on the default breezy install, I found gnome too slow though :/ thx anyhow
[04:40] <josh__> thanx
[04:40] <bob2> Tokenizer: that's not at all what you asked for
[04:40] <bastardkestrel> exhale: just put a hash mark there re-x
[04:40] <bastardkestrel> exhale: see if things change
[04:40] <exhale> bastardkestrel it works perfectly using 386 kernel
[04:40] <bob2> neologic: http://lwn.net/Articles/110357/
[04:40] <Tokenizer> bob2, i agree i asked questions badly, and i totally understand where you are comming from
[04:41] <exhale> bastardkestrel I didnt quite get that..
[04:41] <P8ntKid> So is there any repo that i can use to get fluxbox-0.9.14?
[04:41] <ashtown> ok, i figured out sound juicer for now. I cant save the mp3s i create to any root directories i dont have permission to write to.
[04:41] <bob2> Tokenizer: install mysql-clients if you want the command line client tool
[04:41] <bob2> P8ntKid: dude
[04:41] <bastardkestrel> exhale: works on 2.4 kernel for me lol
[04:41] <bob2> P8ntKid: asking 5 trillion times will not make it appear
[04:41] <djjason> I wanted to ask, powernowd does not start automatically on my laptop....I wanted to know what would be the best solution to fix that...start it in the gnome session or?
[04:41] <aeon17x> ashtown: that's natural.
[04:41] <bob2> P8ntKid: if you actually care, why don't YOU make the package?
[04:41] <bastardkestrel> exhale: in xorg.conf open it
[04:41] <bob2> djjason: "does not start"?
[04:41] <twisted_maple> ashtown: chmod a+rw directoryname will do the trick.
[04:41] <bob2> djjason: 'sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd start' fails?
[04:41] <crimsun> ksmurf: don't transfer your private key, only the pub key
[04:41] <exhale> bastardkestrel should i just disable glx?
[04:41] <ashtown> it was working earlier somehow... thanks twisted
[04:41] <bastardkestrel> exhale: do you know how to do that?
[04:41] <P8ntKid> bob2, Becuase whenever i make it. The transparency doesnt work. Thats why im asking for a PRE maid package...
[04:42] <bastardkestrel> exhale: try it, it helped me, but then no 3d
[04:42] <Tokenizer> bob2, got it
[04:42] <djjason> bob2: it seems to work fine if I start it myself
[04:42] <exhale> bastardkestrel dont you just open xorg.conf and remove glx?
[04:42] <bob2> djjason: is it in /etc/rc2.d or /etc/rcS.d?
[04:42] <crimsun> twisted_maple: any luck?
[04:42] <bob2> P8ntKid: so use the same config options as ubuntu did
[04:42] <bastardkestrel> exhale: no, sudo vim xorg.conf
[04:42] <ksmurf> k just the public key..... Or i could just go through it all again (I took notes):>   could I not?
[04:42] <P8ntKid> bob2, How do i do that? And where can i find them?
[04:42] <bastardkestrel> exhale: just comment it
[04:43] <exhale> bastardkestrel i know how to open it
[04:43] <bob2> P8ntKid: 'apt-get source fluxbox', read the debian/rules file
[04:43] <bastardkestrel> exhale: sorry
[04:43] <exhale> bastardkestrel oh well
[04:43] <twisted_maple> crimsum:  still no device found - yet I can see it when I pnpdump.
[04:43] <exhale> bastardkestrel you think it will work?
[04:43] <bastardkestrel> exhale: im curious if its nvidia,
[04:43] <bastardkestrel> exhale: or xorg.
[04:43] <agt> bob2, SEJeff, could I not mount the ipod and use say banshee or gtkpod to update from within XFCE?
[04:43] <bob2> agt: sure
[04:43] <bastardkestrel> exhale: could be kernel too, depends how you look at it
[04:43] <exhale> bastardkestrel wait a minute, isnt glx the driver for nvidia? lol
[04:43] <twisted_maple> crimsum: I have spent about 12 hours on this issue.  Works great in Knoppix under earlier kernel.
[04:44] <bastardkestrel> exhale: yes
[04:44] <agt> Ok!
[04:44] <exhale> bastardkestrel well the driver isnt the problem really
[04:44] <bastardkestrel> exhale: but you can always add it back
[04:44] <crimsun> twisted_maple: can you provide the pnpdump info to me via paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[04:44] <djjason> bob2: in rc2.d there is a S20powernowd
[04:44] <escobar5> how can i config sound to have 5.1 working?
[04:44] <exhale> bastardkestrel it was the same without drivers
[04:44] <P8ntKid> bob2, Where is the file you want me to read?
[04:44] <Antioch_> How can I change the resolution and frequency at which the GDM login-screen displays?
[04:44] <bastardkestrel> exhale: oh
[04:44] <ben__> is there a newsreader for gnome that supports NZB files? in synaptic i see one for KDE...
[04:44] <threeseas> why does a maple get twisted?
[04:44] <exhale> im getting crazy at this im even thinking of going back to win2k :/
[04:44] <bastardkestrel> exhale: did you have vesa before?
[04:44] <exhale> bastardkestrel not shur
[04:44] <exhale> e
[04:45] <agt> bob2, but are you saying that gnome will automount, whereas XFCE will not... is that the difference? u look busy, tell me to piss off if you like :)
[04:45] <bob2> djjason: do you see any output of it at boot?
[04:45] <bastardkestrel> exhale: im having problmes with graphic, windows white-ting out
[04:45] <bob2> escobar5: asking the same question over and over seems suboptimal
[04:45] <bob2> escobar5: the answer is long and hardware specific, you need to ask on the mailing list
[04:45] <bastardkestrel> exhale: i removed glx and it works so far
[04:46] <escobar5> bob2, ok, that is a good answer, thank you
[04:46] <exhale> bastardkestrel well basicly when i "hold" a window or drag it around it gets square contours
[04:46] <RabidDog> Question: I have a machine that uses the EMT64 rather then the AMD64 cpu, would all I need to do to make it properly compatible with EMT64 is upgrade it to the EMT64 Kernel after installing it, The system is a EMT64 Intel 830 Dual Core Processor?
[04:46] <djjason> bob2: none that I can remember....
[04:46] <bastardkestrel> exhale: you can try an older kernel
[04:46] <bastardkestrel> exhale: its not too hard,
[04:46] <bob2> agt: the reason gnome is so heavy is because it has things like that, xfce does not have an equivalent of gnome-vyolume-manager (that I know of)
[04:46] <exhale> bastardkestrel dude its same as the 386 one :/
[04:46] <bob2> RabidDog: best option is to exchange it for a far faster amd64 machine for the same cost
[04:46] <Kommit> why ubuntu doesn't contain "alsaconf"?
[04:46] <bastardkestrel> exhale: oh
[04:47] <bob2> RabidDog: if not, decide whether you care about binary-only crap or not
[04:47] <bob2> Kommit: what would be the point?
[04:47] <melvztechie> hello bob2: could you check this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3628, trying to run mrtg, but this always shows up?
[04:47] <threeseas> me'za want'in to build a wireless device but need'in the kernal sources. anyone know where those sources might be (linux kernel for latest ubuntu)
[04:47] <exhale> bastardkestrel i have no idea what to do..
[04:47] <RabidDog> bob2 THATS NOT THE QUESTION I ASKED, assshole
[04:47] <bastardkestrel> exhale: your pretty shur you narrowed it down
[04:47] <bob2> threeseas: no, what are you trying to do?
[04:47] <robotgeek> RabidDog: language
[04:47] <Kommit> seems that hard to configure my sound card
[04:47] <bastardkestrel> exhale: to kernel
[04:47] <bob2> RabidDog: awesome attitude, now answer my question below that
[04:47] <melvztechie> bob2: how can i run mrtg properly?
[04:48] <exhale> bastardkestrel ?
[04:48] <bob2> Kommit: what do you need to configure for it? just load the right module?
[04:48] <bob2> melvztechie: LANG=C /usr/bin/mrtg
[04:48] <RabidDog> robotgeek, need I say that was a anal attitude he had
[04:48] <bastardkestrel> exhale: dont know sorry
[04:48] <Kommit> Thanks, i'll try it
[04:48] <bastardkestrel> exhale: i got to run without glx which sucks
[04:48] <exhale> crap crap crap
[04:49] <bastardkestrel> exhale: then i have to enable it if i want 3d
[04:49] <exhale> thanks anyway bastardkestrel
[04:49] <RabidDog> k lemme now ask this question again with bob2 on my ignore list
[04:49] <RabidDog> Question: I have a machine that uses the EMT64 rather then the AMD64 cpu, would all I need to do to make it properly compatible with EMT64 is upgrade it to the EMT64 Kernel after installing it, The system is a EMT64 Intel 830 Dual Core Processor?
[04:49] <robotgeek> threeseas: /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/wireless
[04:49] <Tokenizer> q: where's the default folder for apache www folder?
[04:49] <HrdwrBoB> robotgeek: EM64t is a waste of time
[04:49] <bob2> Tokenizer: /var/www/
[04:49] <bastardkestrel> exhale: why not try debian with a different kerenl
[04:49] <twisted_maple> crimsum:  pnpdump was pasted as requested.
[04:49] <HrdwrBoB> robotgeek: install an i386 system on it
[04:49] <federico_> why does synaptic ask me to redownload repositories data every day? this did not happen in hoary
[04:49] <robotgeek> HrdwrBoB: not me,
[04:49] <twisted_maple> crimsun:  pnpdump was pasted as requested.
[04:49] <exhale> bastardkestrel my debian cd is broke
[04:49] <bastardkestrel> exhale: did you test with knoppix
[04:49] <exhale> and debian is to hard for me
[04:50] <HrdwrBoB> robotgeek: my apologies
[04:50] <robotgeek> HrdwrBoB: i guess it's getting pretty busy in here, no problem
[04:50] <Tokenizer> tokenizer <-- brain-washed by IIS
[04:50] <HrdwrBoB> RabidDog: yeah, pointless
[04:50] <exhale> bastardkestrel knoppix doesnt let you choose kernel or does it?
[04:50] <exhale> i dont have any cd's so it doesnt matter tho
[04:50] <RabidDog> HrdwrBoB, what is pointless?
[04:50] <melvztechie> bob2: am i just gonna type that in my terminal? it says Command not found
[04:50] <HrdwrBoB> RabidDog: EM64T
[04:50] <HrdwrBoB> RabidDog: install the i386 version
[04:50] <bob2> melvztechie: show us exactly what you ran
[04:51] <RabidDog> HrdwrBoB, it's a dual proc
[04:51] <ecobuntu> backports aren't up yet for breezy right, just hoary?
[04:51] <bastardkestrel> exhale: is it a notebook?
[04:51] <RabidDog> Imean dual core
[04:51] <melvztechie> melvz@neobox:~$ sudo LANG=C /usr/bin/mrtg
[04:51] <melvztechie> sudo: LANG=C: command not found
[04:51] <exhale> nope a desktop pc
[04:51] <bob2> melvztechie: LANG=C sudo /usr/...
[04:51] <neologic> join #gentoo
[04:51] <bastardkestrel> exhale: sorry got to go
[04:51] <RabidDog> HrdwrBoB, so install 386 SMT?
[04:51] <neologic> >_<
[04:51] <exhale> oh well thx
[04:51] <bob2> melvztechie: (LANG=C has to be at the beginning of the lince; it tells your shell to run MRTG without any locale-specific stuff)
[04:52] <HrdwrBoB> RabidDog: SMP, yes
[04:52] <RabidDog> err :)
[04:52] <RabidDog> SMP :P
[04:52] <HrdwrBoB> RabidDog: but the kernel is jsut installed afterwards
[04:52] <Toma-> RabidDog: get the 64bit install cds
[04:52] <HrdwrBoB> so just install it
[04:52] <HrdwrBoB> Toma-: NO
[04:52] <Toma-> why not?
[04:52] <HrdwrBoB> because it would run SLOWER
[04:52] <melvztechie> bob2: i search mrtg and its there in that directory, how do fix this, still noob with linux command
[04:52] <bob2> melvztechie: I don't understand you
[04:52] <Toma-> youre telling me, a 64bit install on a 64bit machine would run slow?
[04:53] <RabidDog> HrdwrBoB, I just want to take advantage of the dual core is all I'm looking to do :)
[04:53] <bob2> haha em64t
[04:53] <bob2> Toma-: er
[04:53] <HrdwrBoB> RabidDog: then just use an SMP i686 kernel on a standard i386 breezy install
[04:53] <HrdwrBoB> Toma-: yes.
[04:53] <HrdwrBoB> Toma-: em64t is a worthless piece of crap
[04:53] <bob2> Toma-: you know sparc and hppa both can run 64-bit code, but most people don't, because it's slower?
[04:53] <HrdwrBoB> HT at least has a point
[04:53] <bob2> Toma-: 64-bit code burns twice as much space for pointers, which can be a significant lose
[04:53] <RabidDog> HrdwrBoB, well EMT64 is just a renamed amd64 with a couple extra extensions?
[04:54] <logikal> http://pastebin.com/406048
[04:54] <bob2> Toma-: it's a gain if you have a shitton of memory, of course, but that's not usually the case
[04:54] <RabidDog> Intel licenced the technology from amd64
[04:54] <RabidDog> rather then play catchup
[04:54] <Toma-> i see
[04:54] <bob2> RabidDog: it's a p4 with some amd64 (but not all) stuff added
[04:54] <SEJeff> RabidDog: licensed != the same
[04:54] <queenorych> 64 bit burns twice the space for pointers?
[04:54] <bob2> RabidDog: e.g. it has no IOMMU, nor per-page execute bits
[04:54] <queenorych> It also handles 64bits at a time
[04:54] <HrdwrBoB> RabidDog: no, em64t is a completely pointless implementation of amd64 for compatibility only
[04:54] <rixth> Hey guys. http://pastebin.com/406054 I have installed libopenal0 and libopenal-dev but still get that. What package do I need? (Note the funny configure warning at the top :)
[04:54] <RabidDog> SEJeff, noticed I said with extensions
[04:54] <melvztechie> bob2: i just thought its looking for the file "mrtg" since its found at that directory... but still "command not found
[04:55] <SEJeff> RabidDog: intel licensed amd64 technology because AMD sued them for trying to reverse engineer and release it
[04:55] <bob2> queenorych: how much of your code works with 64-bit integers?
[04:55] <bob2> melvztechie: sudo /usr/bin/mrtg, then
[04:55] <RabidDog> HrdwrBoB, alrigh I'll take your word on that
[04:55] <queenorych> if it is written proper it will work
[04:55] <RabidDog> SEJeff, :P true
[04:55] <bob2> queenorych: sure it will work, but it won't be faster
[04:55] <melvztechie> bob2: okey, will do;)
[04:55] <bob2> queenorych: amd64 is an exception to the sparc/hppa rule, tho, because you get a bunch more registers
[04:56] <bob2> so running an amd64 cpu in 64-bit is a win, if you don't care about binary-only crap
[04:56] <dmlinux> mustard5 you there?
[04:56] <RabidDog> whats the point of amd64?
[04:56] <Paradoxx> bob2: binary only crap?
[04:56] <SEJeff> RabidDog: To blow xeon out of the water :)
[04:56] <HrdwrBoB> RabidDog: it's a better design
[04:56] <RabidDog> haha
[04:56] <queenorych> amd64 can be faster if you have a program that does heavy 64 bit math
[04:56] <dmlinux> Does anyone know how to "patch a kernal" ?
[04:56] <HrdwrBoB> Paradoxx: yes, flash, 'codecs', drivers, etc
[04:57] <RabidDog> amd64 only make s difference in math
[04:57] <Tokenizer> i never set any password for "root" account, now when i try "su" at terminal, i can't login using any password i could think of, what's the default ubuntu pass?
[04:57] <queenorych> such as compression (video, audio, file) as well as crypt
[04:57] <bob2> queenorych: and is faster with almost everything else because it has a trillion more registers
[04:57] <RabidDog> ah i c
[04:57] <bob2> Tokenizer: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:57] <bob2> Tokenizer: the installer told you about this, as does the FAQ
[04:57] <bob2> Paradoxx: or windows software in wine
[04:57] <SEJeff> RabidDog: Math as in compiling, rendering, password cracking, web serving, etc
[04:57] <bob2> Paradoxx: it's still possibly to run it, but more of a hassle
[04:57] <twisted_maple> crimsun: must sign out.
[04:57] <SEJeff> RabidDog: And lets not forget gaming
[04:57] <RabidDog> Tokenizer, it's the same as your primary user password
[04:57] <bob2> dmlinux: what are yo utrying to do?
[04:57] <queenorych> yes, the amd64 also has a but load of registers so even recomiling the code to use 32bit amd64 it will run faster
[04:57] <dmlinux> Can anyone explain to me or link me a HOWTO on how to patch http://www.holtmann.org/linux/kernel/patch-2.6.13-mh2.gz into my kernal ?
[04:57] <dmlinux> bob2 that
[04:57] <RabidDog> SEJeff, oh ya :)
[04:57] <bob2> queenorych: yes
[04:57] <crimsun> twisted_maple: k, ping me tomorrow. I'm looking at it now.
[04:57] <queenorych> since it can keep more in the registers
[04:57] <dhruv> hi all, i think this is a simple problem. Gnome keyboard shortcuts recognize my next/play/etc buttons and assigns them to XF86AudioNext/etc, but I can't seem to get that to work in xmms(or beep-media). Any suggestions?
[04:57] <bob2> dmlinux: why do you want that patch?
[04:58] <twisted_maple> I can stick for a while .
[04:58] <twisted_maple> crimsun: I can stick for a while.
[04:58] <ubunt2> when i minimize a program it just disappears to the botton right corner
[04:58] <RabidDog> HrdwrBoB, Just to clairfy,if I were to install amd64 it would run slower then the 386, right?
[04:58] <dmlinux> bob2 because ubuntu doesnt have bluetooth support for my particiular mouse, and my scroll button and forward/back buttons wont work unless i some how patch my kernal
[04:58] <RabidDog> on a EMT64 system
[04:58] <HrdwrBoB> RabidDog: correct
[04:58] <RabidDog> i c
[04:58] <bob2> dmlinux: it is a massive massive pain in the arse
[04:59] <bob2> dmlinux: how much do you care?
[04:59] <crimsun> twisted_maple: k, sec
[04:59] <LoneWolf071> how can i force nmap to continue it's job even after an error?
[04:59] <vik> if I dist-upgrade to breezy, will packages from hoary-backports break?
[04:59] <dmlinux> bob2 alot. i dont have ANY scroll mouse, and well, it sucks frankly
[04:59] <bob2> so, I was right and RabidDog should have traded it in for a faster amd64 machine
[04:59] <SEJeff> LoneWolf071: Error as in can't ping the host?
[04:59] <bob2> LoneWolf071: and the error is...?
[04:59] <Toma-> LoneWolf071: what kind of error?
[04:59] <bob2> vik: could do, backports are not properly tested or designed
[04:59] <r0d> i changed my root password w/ passwd and when i use gui tools that require a password, it uses the old password. why?
[04:59] <dmlinux> bob2 my scroll on my touchpad doesnt work either ( im on a laptop)
[04:59] <crimsun> vik: disable hoary-backports -before- dist-upgrading to Breezy
[04:59] <bob2> r0d: because they're using sudo, not su
[04:59] <SEJeff> LoneWolf071: nmap -P0 hostname if you can't ping which is the most common "error"
[04:59] <dmlinux> bob2 but thats another story
[05:00] <RabidDog> HrdwrBoB, so even changing the kernel to the EMT64 kernel would not make a difference?
[05:00] <wotnarg> dmlinux: How much is your time worth? More than 5$ for a cheap ps/2 scrollmouse?
[05:00] <vik> hmmm... maybe I'll wait until breezy-backports comes up
[05:00] <LoneWolf071> ?
[05:00] <dmlinux> wotnarg i spent 40 dollars on this bluetooth mouse. i want it to work
[05:00] <crimsun> vik: ...why? Breezy has those versions already.
[05:00] <bob2> dmlinux: good luck then.  I'd try reading the wiki first (tho you'll almost certainly make your system unbootable to begin with)
[05:00] <wotnarg> dmlinux: Well then, your time is worth less than 40$ to you, then go for it :)
[05:00] <vik> crimsun - what do you mean?
[05:00] <LoneWolf071> no this is a callback error
[05:00] <bob2> vik: uh, that will break things more, not less
[05:00] <Paradoxx> bob2: i must comment...you are a monster. You pay attention and provide help to so many diffrent ppl, at once. I just wanna say thanks, as most ppl don't. Thx dude.....
[05:00] <RabidDog> $10 for my optical 3 button scroll mouse :)
[05:00] <RabidDog> and it says logitech on it :P
[05:01] <Toma-> dmlinux: kde has some awesome bluetooth apps
[05:01] <bob2> Paradoxx: hah, np
[05:01] <crimsun> vik: the reason it's called hoary-backports is because you're running -Hoary- and you want packages from -Breezy-
[05:01] <bob2> tho now I have no attention span
[05:01] <GTroy_> what repos do I need for moaning goat meter?
[05:01] <ubunt2> how do i make a new bottom panel?
[05:01] <bob2> but I can procrastinate on 50 things at once
[05:01] <crimsun> vik: so obviously when you dist-upgrade to -Breezy-, you'll have those packages.
[05:01] <bob2> ubunt2: right click on the panel and choose "add new panel"
[05:01] <RabidDog> crimsun, your statement did make any sense
[05:01] <LoneWolf071> bob2 Toma-:A Callback error
[05:01] <vik> crimsun: sorry, my brain seems to have been on vacation for a few days. It all makes sense now
[05:01] <dmlinux> toma- but does it support a Microsoft ( yes microsuck) intellimouse 2.0 for bluetooth
[05:01] <RabidDog> didn't
[05:01] <wotnarg> GTroy_: Is there seriously something called moaning goat meter?
[05:01] <crimsun> RabidDog: come again?
[05:01] <dmlinux> toma- im not making the switch unless i know
[05:01] <LoneWolf071> bob2 Toma-:A callback error
[05:01] <GTroy_> wotnarg: yep
[05:02] <wotnarg> GTroy_: bwhahahah. what is it?
[05:02] <rixth> Hey guys. http://pastebin.com/406054 I have installed libopenal0 and libopenal-dev but still get that. What package do I need? (Note the funny configure warning at the top :)
[05:02] <SEJeff> dmlinux: Download the livecd and find out for yourself
[05:02] <Paradoxx> grrr, time to go back and study for this crappy SAT....talk to you all later
[05:02] <HrdwrBoB> RabidDog: em64t is pointless crap
[05:02] <GTroy_> wotnarg: system watcher
[05:02] <HrdwrBoB> RabidDog: end of story
[05:02] <dmlinux> SEJeff link?
[05:02] <vik> Is there a way to disable gnome's trash system for certain devices (i.e. usb disks)?
[05:02] <threeseas> Thanks robogeek and bob2 ... I have the driver to compile for my wireless device but the compile complains about not haveing the linux kernel sources
[05:02] <wotnarg> GTroy_: Ah. Probably universe (just a educated guess)
[05:02] <RabidDog> crimsun, the reason it's called hoary-backports is because you're running -Hoary- and you want packages from -Breezy-   <---that's not a reason
[05:02] <bob2> hahaha
[05:02] <GTroy_> wotnarg: nope got that one
[05:02] <SEJeff> dmlinux: you're not helpless, go to the ubuntu mainpage www.ubuntulinux.org and download the live cd
[05:02] <bob2> RabidDog: do tell
[05:03] <wotnarg> GTroy_: No clue then. Sorry.
[05:03] <robotgeek> threeseas: you probably need, linux-kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[05:03] <crimsun> RabidDog: you totally didn't read THE ENTIRE CONVERSATION.
[05:03] <RabidDog> it's called hoary because he's runnning hoary :)
[05:03] <dmlinux> SEjeff thanks, im sick, but not helpless no , sorry
[05:03] <Toma-> dmlinux:  http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=8475483&forum_id=1883
[05:03] <RabidDog> crimsun,  :)
[05:03] <RabidDog> crimsun, I was beginning to realize that :P
[05:03] <HrdwrBoB> robotgeek: you should use $() instead of `` it's more portable and easier to escapt things in
[05:03] <phiqtion> where can i get a program that tells me all the processes currently running?
[05:03] <r0d> bob2, is there a way make the gui programs look at my root password or be able to change the one sudo looks at?
[05:03] <robotgeek> HrdwrBoB: it's easier to type with my left hand, i'm eating
[05:03] <HrdwrBoB> r0d: ... no
[05:04] <bob2> r0d: why bother?
[05:04] <Bite_Me_Bill> phiqtion,  can't you just type top into term?
[05:04] <dmlinux> Toma- Why did you link that? lol thats MY post
[05:04] <bob2> phiqtion: you have one, called "top"
[05:04] <crimsun> twisted_maple: (still working on it)
[05:04] <HrdwrBoB> robotgeek: hehe, just letting you know :)
[05:04] <HrdwrBoB> phiqtion: system monitor
[05:04] <Toma-> really?! hahaha
[05:04] <r0d> bob2, because my old  password is 7 characters and i would prefer 8 for secuirty reasons
[05:04] <dmlinux> Toma- yep , lol thats funny
[05:04] <twisted_maple> crimsun: will be around until :30
[05:04] <bob2> r0d: (you'd need to alter the launchers to use gksu instead of gksudo, or symlink it or something)
[05:04] <Toma-> well so u have the mouse and it works?
[05:04] <HrdwrBoB> phiqtion: applications->system tools-> system monitor
[05:04] <bob2> r0d: why not change it?
[05:04] <SEJeff> r0d: Not without changing a ton of things. aka .desktop files
[05:04] <HrdwrBoB> r0d: so change your password
[05:05] <dmlinux> Toma- yes it works, but scroll wheel doesnt hehe thats what im trying to fix
[05:05] <r0d> bob2, the password is stored in .desktop?!
[05:05] <Toma-> oic
[05:05] <phiqtion> but i want one that sits on the desktop
[05:05] <toky_> anyone usin nx?
[05:05] <bob2> r0d: tf
[05:05] <HrdwrBoB> r0d: no, the call to sudo is
[05:05] <threeseas> robotgeek yeah, but are the headers all there is? I have an empty usr/src/ directory
[05:05] <Toma-> dmlinux: youve got your xorg.conf setup to use Zmapping?
[05:05] <bob2> r0d: the fact they use gksudo is
[05:05] <SEJeff> r0d: No, the .desktop has it call gksudo and you would have to change that to gksu
[05:05] <bob2> r0d: "passwd" in a terminal, for great justice
[05:05] <r0d> ahh i c. thx boabsta
[05:05] <r0d> bob2 i mean
[05:05] <r0d> :P
[05:05] <Toma-> or Zaxis or whatever
[05:06] <r0d> need to learn the gui alittle more. just thought that was strange
[05:06] <Bite_Me_Bill> phiqtion, there might be a gdesklet that does that.  I'm not sure.
[05:06] <robotgeek> threeseas: sorry, you need 'apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`' or 'apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[05:06] <threeseas> gotta logoff so to logon dialup on my ubuntu box
[05:06] <dmlinux> Toma- tried that about a hundred times, other people with the same mouse have the same problem, the scroll wheel and the forward/back buttons send the signal but linux doesnt pick it up or translate it , so the kernal is broken for this mouse
[05:07] <threeseas> ok
[05:07] <Toma-> id say bluez is broken, not the kernel
[05:07] <threeseas> thanks
[05:07] <queenorych> dmlinux: do yourself a favor and get a new mouse
[05:07] <rixth> Come on guys, help me out! I am trying to compile scorched3d. http://pastebin.com/406054 I have installed libopenal0 and libopenal-dev but still get that
[05:07] <threeseas> bbiam
[05:07] <iratsu> what's the path of the kernel source in ubuntu?
[05:07] <Bite_Me_Bill> phiqtion, you could add system monitor to your panel and then all it would be is a single click to see it.
[05:07] <rixth> iratsu, /usr/src
[05:08] <dmlinux> SEJeff ok downloading the x86 livecd, now is there a way to get it to be KDE, just go into the livecd and change the options when it boots correct? never done the live CD thing b4
[05:08] <phiqtion> i want to see the CPU, MEMORY, ETC
[05:08] <J2Dope> sup ya'll. im having problems getting my ubuntu on the net. im using the exact same settings as my winXP installation, but i can't get on the net. any ideas?
[05:08] <robotgeek> rixth: isn't it in the repos?
[05:08] <r0d> iratsu, did you download from synaptic?
[05:08] <SEJeff> dmlinux: Download the kubuntu livecd
[05:08] <Bite_Me_Bill> phiqtion, if that is what you want then look into the gdesklets.
[05:08] <queenorych> phiqtion: run top
[05:08] <rixth> robotgeek, version 38 is, but I need 39 to play online.
[05:08] <iratsu> r0d: ...no
[05:08] <SEJeff> dmlinux: ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde
[05:09] <us0bg> xx
[05:09] <SEJeff> rixth: I have an easier way for you to get scortched3d
[05:09] <r0d> iratsu, then you dont hav em. learn for "linux-source" or "kernel-source"
[05:09] <robotgeek> rixth: if u still want to compile it, apt-get build-dep scorched3d
[05:09] <r0d> one of em is the kernel source in synaptic
[05:09] <finite> is there an ubuntu netinst iso available?
[05:09] <rixth> robotgeek, the source is not available.
[05:09] <finite> eg the ~20mb one
[05:09] <rixth> SEJeff, how?
[05:09] <iratsu> r0d: well i apt-got them
[05:09] <dmlinux> SEjeff gotcha !
[05:09] <SEJeff> rixth: Open up synaptic from System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager. Search for scorched3d
[05:10] <r0d> iratsu, that works.. then just extract w/ tar
[05:10] <robotgeek> rixth: that just builds the dependencies
[05:10] <rixth> SEJeff, like I said, only version 38 is in apt...
[05:10] <crimsun> twisted_maple: sudo modprobe snd-sbawe dma16=5 dma8=1 irq=5 awe_port=0x620 fm_port=0x330 mpu_port=0x388 port=0x220 isapnp=0
[05:10] <robotgeek> rixth: for building
[05:10] <dmlinux> SEjeff lets say i like KDE so much , can i switch over on my current Ubuntu instal
[05:10] <rixth> robotgeek, I'm aware of that. E: Unable to find a source package for scorched3d
[05:10] <SEJeff> dmlinux: install kubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <robotgeek> dmlinux: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <finite> anybody here know where i can get a netinst? i think in hoary they were available on the normal downloads page but now I can't find em even with google
[05:10] <dmlinux> cool thanks guy
[05:10] <dmlinux> s
[05:10] <dmlinux> netinst whats that
[05:11] <SEJeff> network install
[05:11] <finite> a 20mb iso that runs the installer and then downloads everything else
[05:11] <SEJeff> 20mb? those normally fit on floppy disks
[05:11] <robotgeek> rixth: gimme a sec
[05:11] <finite> yeah but with debian (and ubuntu too, i thought) there is a specific 20mb cd image called "netinst"
[05:12] <rixth> finite, it is actualy 142 mb :)
[05:12] <rixth> finite, well, there is a VERY limited 50mb-ish one
[05:12] <ubunt2> what if i deleted the panel?
[05:12] <finite> it's doable on a floppy but not with one-disk-for-any-i386
[05:12] <dmlinux> SEjeff sorry for bugging you again, but can you change settings on livecd and have them stay everytime you boot it ?
[05:12] <finite> rixth, where can i get these?
[05:13] <SEJeff> dmlinux: Yes, it is called remastering it. Search google for remastering ubuntu live cd
[05:13] <rixth> finite, not sure for Ubuntu. THe Debian ones are that size, so I guess the Ubuntu ones would be similar
[05:13] <dmlinux> SEjeff ah ok ty
[05:13] <LoneWolf071> nmap keeps giving me a callback error when i do a -sR and -sV on this on server, how do i force it to continue
[05:13] <Toma-> has anyone trid using 2 mice in linux before?
[05:13] <robotgeek> rixth: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3630
[05:13] <twisted_maple> crimsun: twisted_maple: sudo modprobe snd-sbawe dma16=5 dma8=1 irq=5 awe_port=0x620 fm_port=0x330 mpu_port=0x388 port=0x220 isapnp=0
[05:13] <dmlinux> Toma- i did :P but only one cursor
[05:13] <_jason> ubunt2:  ?
[05:13] <Toma-> aww thats no fun
[05:14] <twisted_maple> crimsun: FATAL: Error inserting snd_sbawe (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-sbawe.ko): No such device
[05:14] <LoneWolf071> nmap keeps giving me a callback error when i do a -sR and -sV on this on server, how do i force it to continue
[05:14] <SEJeff> Toma-: My laptop has a touchpad and a usb mouse. Works fine
[05:14] <rixth> robotgeek, thanks!
[05:14] <Toma-> SEJeff: but not 2 pointers?
[05:14] <dmlinux> Toma- nope
[05:15] <SEJeff> Toma-: At once? that makes no sense
[05:15] <iratsu> is anyone else experiencing problems with etting nvidia drivers working after upgrading to breezy?
[05:15] <crimsun> twisted_maple: please make sure that PnP OS is -disabled-
[05:15] <Toma-> SEJeff: it would be entertaining for a while...
[05:15] <ubunt2> i got this error, i for get what it was, but i deleted the bottom panel where the programs usually sit in the tray & i want to know how to make a new one
[05:15] <Toma-> useful for c+c and so on
[05:15] <rixth> I always get this error on startup (regardless of distribution) FATAL: Error inserting genrtc (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/char/genrtc.ko): Device or resource busy, is tha related to the BIOS clock?
[05:15] <SEJeff> Toma-: and not practical for anytime
[05:15] <finite> iratsu, have you upgraded since the initial breezy upgrade?
[05:15] <LoneWolf071> anyone?
[05:15] <Toma-> meh
[05:15] <robotgeek> ubunt2: Right click and add notification area to your panel
[05:15] <iratsu> finite: no
[05:15] <rixth> robotgeek, nope, still get the error.
[05:16] <iratsu> finite: sould i do that?
[05:16] <finite> there was new glx related fixes in breezy-updates recently
[05:16] <iratsu> finite: oh, i see
[05:16] <twisted_maple> It is disabled:  BIOS PNP OFF on motherboard.  I will reboot to be sure.
[05:16] <Bite_Me_Bill> Hmm that is strange I'm not finding the netinst iso for 5.10
[05:16] <finite> i don't know if it's related to your problem, but upgrading would be my first course of action
[05:16] <Bite_Me_Bill> There was one for previous releases.
[05:16] <iratsu> finite: well i removed, reinstalled and reremoved nvidia-glx several times as desperate attempts to make it work
[05:17] <sagarp> how come the "window title font" button in the font preferences dialog became grayed out??
[05:17] <twisted_maple> crimsun: rebooting.
[05:17] <Trucker> I am unable to install azureus from apt-get .Did anybody have any luck doing so. I have 5.04
[05:17] <robotgeek> rixth: do you have that openal thing installed?
[05:17] <inthenow> hi
[05:17] <rixth> robotgeek, openal0 & openal-dev yes.
[05:17] <inthenow> does synaptic package manager resume?
[05:17] <vbgunz> anyone know why frozen bubble might not have any sounds?
[05:17] <rixth> inthenow, kinda
[05:17] !lilo:*! New project channel.... #audacious .... audacious is a fork of bmp 0.9.7.1.... the project is looking for testers and coders, talk to nenolod
[05:18] <finite> Trucker, I'm using azureus from the package manager in 5.10 and aside from being java-slow it works ok
[05:18] <Tokenizer> still new to linux file system, where does one install programs on Ubuntu? ie. what's parallel to "C:\program files" ........ i'm installing something from source, it's a program and not a sudo/.deb package
[05:18] <inthenow> rixth: kinda as in resume or kinda as in if you connection goes down it wont continue
[05:18] <rixth> inthenow, if can't resume halfway through a package but if your getting lots of packages, once it has compelted, it will not be deleted even if you stop apt-get
[05:18] <robotgeek> rixth: then either file a bug report on the openal package, with this error message. meanwhile, you might want to try compiling the openal package yourself
[05:18] <inthenow> i need resume for package management...im on dialup...suggestions?
[05:18] <Tokenizer> anyone?
[05:19] <queenorych> tokenizer: /usr/local
[05:19] <robotgeek> inthenow: i think apt-get resumes
[05:19] <Tokenizer> what's /usr/bin for?
[05:19] <Trucker> are any of you using Azureus in here?
[05:19] <rixth> inthenow, hard to explain. If you stop halfway through a file, you won't be able to resume it. Say you have to get pgk1, pkg2 & pkg3. If you get disconnected during pkg3, you only have to get pkg3 as pkg 1 & 2 will already be saved
[05:19] <queenorych> tokenizer: /usr/bin is for dynamically linked binaries
[05:19] <Tokenizer> so /usr/local is the proper practice?
[05:19] <Octane> is there a 64 bit version of skype
[05:19] <Tokenizer> thanks
[05:19] <rixth> Trucker, used to, then an upgrade to Breezy killed my torrents.
[05:19] <queenorych> tokenizer: /bin and /sbin is for  statically linked biniaries
[05:20] <bimberi> inthenow: apt-get will resume, even partway through a package (that's what the /var/cache/apt/archives/partial directory is for)
[05:20] <Bite_Me_Bill> Tokenizer, this might be for another distro but it might give you a better idea of things.  http://www.slackware.com/config/rootdir.php
[05:20] <rixth> robotgeek, yeah, a compile or the source of openal (less than 30 seconds) fixed it!
[05:21] <bimberi> inthenow: and synaptic and aptitude use the same cache
[05:21] <rixth> Now to compile 40mb of code, weeh.
[05:21] <robotgeek> rixth: cool, and not fun
[05:21] <inthenow> bimberi: can i resume it with synaptic as well them?
[05:22] <bimberi> inthenow: yes
[05:22] <inthenow> bimberi: yes youre right...thanks
[05:22] <mushtaq> hi i have an old intel mmx box and i want to install ubuntu server to share the printers on the network ?
[05:22] <bimberi> inthenow: it was one of the first things i noticed when i first used debian :)
[05:22] <mushtaq> will it work
[05:22] <inthenow> dialup sux
[05:23] <ams_> do you defrag in linux
[05:23] <robotgeek> ams_: nope
[05:23] <ams_> robot: why not
[05:23] <Toma-> !ext3
[05:23] <ubotu> Toma-: Are you smoking crack?
[05:23] <rixth> mushtaq, I can't see why not.
[05:23] <Toma-> no ur
[05:24] <Bite_Me_Bill> ams_, Cause it's not windows.  IT doesn't need to.
[05:24] <Octane> skype, amd64, yes no
[05:24] <Octane> ?
[05:24] <twisted_maple> crimsun:  no go after reboot.  device not found.
[05:24] <rixth> uboto: tell Toma- about aolbonics
[05:24] <inthenow> dialup is just rediculous im afraid
[05:24] <robotgeek> ams_: AFAIK, the files are always stored consecutively, and hence it's slightly slower than ntfs, but you don't need to defrag
[05:24] <inthenow> why no defrag in linux?
[05:24] <ams_> awesome
[05:24] <HrdwrBoB> inthenow: not needed
[05:24] <Toma-> inthenow: the file system is better ^_^
[05:24] <iratsu> I get the following errors when i try to run X, can anyone help me: http://rafb.net/paste/results/DHnJEA17.html
[05:25] <mannyman> hi, I'm a newbie
[05:25] <Bite_Me_Bill> The question should be why does MS OS's have to when others don't.
[05:25] <rixth> I wonder when work will strt on a WinFS driver
[05:25] <iratsu> Toma-: are you russian?
[05:25] <mannyman> I just installed ubuntu
[05:25] <inthenow> yes linux is built like a hummer lanbourghini
[05:25] <Toma-> iratsu: i wish...?
[05:25] <rixth> mannyman, cool :)
[05:25] <mannyman> I went throough a lot to install the Speedtouch 330 driver
[05:25] <rixth> mannyman, I take it your having a problem(s)?
[05:25] <iratsu> Toma-: ok, i'm jsut asking because i have a friend named toma and she's russian =)
[05:25] <mannyman> but no luck
[05:25] <mannyman> I'm exhausted
[05:26] <mannyman> I don't know what weent wrong
[05:26] <Toma-> so thats why i keeping getting hit on by russian guys :S
[05:26] <mannyman> I used both kernel and user
[05:26] <mannyman> to no avail
[05:26] <iratsu> haha
[05:26] <mannyman> I have no net without it
[05:26] <inthenow> is my system safe if i just updatethe kernel image?
[05:26] <rixth> mannyman, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo
[05:27] <mannyman> can someone help with a straightforward way to install a dspeedtouch 330 driver?
[05:27] <mannyman> like I said, it didn't work
[05:27] <mannyman> but thanks rixth
[05:27] <Toma-> inthenow: if the update is perfect, yeh, but if anything goes wrong, youve got a reinstall situation
[05:27] <dmlinux> whats a backport ?
[05:27] <robotgeek> inthenow: yeah, you can always go back to the older version
[05:27] <Hobbsee> !tell dmlinux about backports
[05:27] <chicano> guys am facing an 404 on updates
[05:27] <chicano> i tried many mirrors
[05:27] <inthenow> robotgeek: hows that?
[05:28] <finite> !tell finite about backports
[05:28] <inthenow> robotgeek: grub puts it there?
[05:28] <mannyman> isn't there a package that will install and do everything ilike in windows
[05:28] <Toma-> inthenow: its better to install new kernel updates, rather than install
[05:28] <Toma-> err update
[05:28] <chicano> can i paste the error here?
[05:28] <mannyman> it's so frustrating going through so many steps then ... nothing
[05:28] <Hobbsee> dmlinux, finite : those backport addresses are wrong
[05:28] <Tokenizer> i installed Activestate Komodo, and IDE for developing PHP, Perl, Python etc.... it's giving me this error, is this something associated with Ubuntu or komodo? "komodo: warning: either Komodo is taking an inordinately long time to startup or an existing Komodo is locked trying to startup
[05:28] <Tokenizer> "
[05:28] <mushtaq> rixth but it is not recognizing the cdrom even ?
[05:29] <Hobbsee> !tell chicano about pastebin
[05:29] <robotgeek> Toma-, inthenow : grub just links to a file, change the file and you are back to your older version
[05:29] <mushtaq> rixth anyother way to install ?
[05:29] <inthenow> Toma-: why how, this is dialup
[05:29] <ratschnowski> hello, one question: after upgrading from hoary to breezy, my gnome or X does not start automatically
[05:29] <rixth> mushtaq, is Ubuntu not recognizing the CD drive, or is the computer not recognizing it?
[05:29] <twisted_maple> crimsun: got to bail.  Good night and thanks.
[05:29] <finite> Hobbsee, thanks. i didn't even get them, the bot won't talk to me
[05:29] <Toma-> robotgeek: yes.. but if you overwrite the old kernel, youre in trouble..
[05:29] <finite> but what ARE the current backports, anyhow?
[05:29] <finite> eg w32codecs etc
[05:29] <Hobbsee> finite: register your nick, then it will
[05:29] <robotgeek> Toma-: you generally don't. you just change the symlink
[05:29] <morgs^^> hiya ... ima newb to ubunto and linux in general .... having problems installing wine ... and libdvddss
[05:29] <Toma-> yeh i know
[05:29] <bimberi> !w32codecs
[05:29] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[05:29] <Hobbsee> dmlinux, finite : those backport addresses are indeed correct, i screwed it up reading them
[05:29] <bimberi> finite: ^^^^
[05:30] <Toma-> mannyman: yes there is a deb package for you...
[05:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone have an approximate guess of what the cost is in electricity for me to just leave my 3.2ghz p4 system on 24/7 per month?
[05:30] <finite> thanks
[05:30] <inthenow> anyone object to breezy?
[05:30] <twisted_maple> Broken ladder: Depends where you are and what you pay per kwh.
[05:30] <mannyman> Anyone with speedtouch 330 usb experience ?
[05:30] <robotgeek> BROKEN_LADDER: interesting, but can we have this over at #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:30] <vik> what was the gnome regedit like doobie called again?
[05:30] <chicano> Hobbsee, can i msg you?
[05:30] <twisted_maple> Estimate $50/year.
[05:30] <robotgeek> vik: gconf-editor
[05:30] <Hobbsee> chicano: sure
[05:30] <inthenow> why would a person now use it now
[05:30] <iratsu> I get the following errors when i try to run X, can anyone help me: http://rafb.net/paste/results/DHnJEA17.html
[05:30] <chicano> thanks
[05:30] <vik> robotgeek: thanks
[05:30] <intelikey> BROKEN_LADDER monitor is the big user there..
[05:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> monitor sleeps
[05:31] <rixth> okay, the source won't compile, time to try alien (uh oh)
[05:31] <ecobuntu> anyone familiar with XFCE4 that might be able to help me
[05:31] <Toma-> mannyman: http://speedtouch.sourceforge.net/index.php?/download.en.html
[05:31] <Toma-> install the deb
[05:31] <ecobuntu> when i right click the desktop i can't get my xfce4 menu
[05:32] <ecobuntu> any ideas why?
[05:32] <inthenow> intelikey: what about lcd
[05:32] <vik> Is the trashcan a gnome thing, or a nautilus thing?
[05:32] <inthenow> they should put cranks on computers..so you dont need to plug them in...or make them solar powered now
[05:32] <intelikey> inthenow not sure, but probably still is.
[05:32] <magick> Getting a broken pipe with pygame install in kubuntu breezy. What is this and how do I fix it?
[05:32] <finite> vik, nautilus is a gnome thing
[05:33] <inthenow> crank your laptop or hook it up to you bycycle and generate power
[05:33] <magick> both installs are 2.4
[05:33] <inthenow> but i dont have a laptop so i cant say
[05:33] <inthenow> what are those hubcaps that spin
[05:33] <chicano-> !backports
[05:33] <vik> finite: yes, though gnome can exist without nautilus, no? So if nautilus was not there, would the trashcan system still be?
[05:33] <mushtaq> rixth the cdrom can be seen in the bios but when it comes to boot
[05:33] <mushtaq> rixth I CANNOT see it
[05:34] <bob2> backports = you lose
[05:34] <rixth> mushtaq, not sure then sorry, could you try a CD drive from another computer?
[05:34] <inthenow> what are those hubcaps that spin on car for?
[05:34] <kjdis> Is it better to --remove or --purge deb pkg'd kernels?
[05:34] <mushtaq> ok rixth
[05:34] <mushtaq> thanks
[05:34] <sazwerx> anyone know what package does the manual page of glut/freeglut included?
[05:34] <inthenow> are they wind generators?
[05:34] <finite> vik, i'd imagine when you run gnome-panel you could still put the trash applet on your panel
[05:35] <mushtaq> rixth is it possible that i copy this cd or to install from floppy ?
[05:35] <mushtaq> rixth do you know the place for that ?
[05:35] <rixth> mushtaq, not really, no
[05:35] <mushtaq> rixth thanks
[05:37] <vik> Is it possible to disable the trashcan altogether (i.e. when I delete, it _deletes_)?
[05:37] <nekostar> vik there is an option to enable the delete menu
[05:37] <nekostar> let me find it :)
[05:37] <intelikey> vik is in kde
[05:37] <nekostar> o:
[05:37] <rixth> vik, if you watn secure deletion, get wipe
[05:37] <intelikey> nekostar no i mean it is possable
[05:38] <nekostar> im not running that at the moment, #kubuntu might have the answer or google if no one here does :D
[05:38] <bob2> wipe is not secure, either
[05:38] <nekostar> i run gnome :)
[05:38] <bob2> it's not possible to do
[05:38] <bob2> if you really need to remove evidence, time to burn the drive in a furnace
[05:39] <cafuego_> vik: Right click file, choose 'Delete' and not 'Move to Trash'.
[05:39] <intelikey> cafuego_  you ok ?
[05:39] <vik> gnome, not KDE, I don't want secure deletion, I'd rather not have three different trash systems creating three different trash folders on my removable disks. Without stuffing around.
[05:39] <cafuego_> intelikey: Yeah, just marking the territory ;-)
[05:40] <inspiron> why can't i play mp3's?
[05:40] <cafuego_> !mp3
[05:40] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[05:40] <inspiron> thank you
[05:40] <wsmith> I've read the wiki:https://wiki.ubuntu.com//WacomTabletIssue. I've checked and double-checked my xorg.conf. I'm getting events in Xorg.log, but my serial wacom tablet doesn't work. I am running breezy. Anyone else had this issue?
[05:42] <defendguin> hey i need my sticky notes to always be on top why did ubuntu undo that?  its not even an option in gconf
[05:42] <nemik> can the ubuntu livecd view an XP NTFS structure like knoppix?
[05:42] <ratschnowski> defendguin: try gdesklets
[05:42] <defendguin> ratschnowski, NO
[05:42] <defendguin> sticky nots should have this functionality
[05:42] <defendguin> notes
[05:42] <bob2> nemik: of course
[05:43] <defendguin> ratschnowski, gdesklets is not even an option on this pc
[05:43] <Jonlleviathan> Wow guys im having alot of trouble with my repositories.... they wont let me install jre
[05:43] <Bite_Me_Bill> defendguin, couldn't you just use the save session option?
[05:43] <nemik> bob2, automatically? cuz it didn't seem to work? i gotta mount it myself, no?
[05:43] <ratschnowski> defendguin, ok, i see
[05:43] <defendguin> Bite_Me_Bill, are you even paying attention?
[05:43] <bob2> nemik: yes, of course. /msg ubotu ntfs
[05:44] <defendguin> Bite_Me_Bill, i need the sticky note to stay on top of all the other windows
[05:44] <aclonedsheep> defendguin: LMAO
[05:44] <Bite_Me_Bill> defendguin, Actaully I wasn't.  Just looked up and seen your couple of posts.  Sorry.
[05:44] <nemik> hmmm...didn't work
[05:44] <ratschnowski> I still wonder why my X does not start after upgrading to Breezy
[05:44] <Jonlleviathan> can anyone PM ne
[05:44] <Bite_Me_Bill> defendguin, Oh ok.  Sorry didn't see that point.
[05:44] <nemik> knoppix does it automatically...man i like ubuntu so much, wish it did that
[05:44] <defendguin> Bite_Me_Bill, ;-)  its ok i forgive you
[05:45] <Jonlleviathan> nemik can u help me with my repository probvlem >
[05:45] <bob2> nemik: you're welcome to send a patch
[05:45] <ratschnowski> I always have to use startx in order to make it work, where can i adjust that?
[05:45] <bob2> Jonlleviathan: you need to actually ask a question
[05:45] <bob2> Jonlleviathan: if you're getting an error from apt, you need to put it in #flood
[05:45] <bob2> Jonlleviathan: along with your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:45] <Jonlleviathan> umm ok bob.,..
[05:45] <Jonlleviathan> im a newb
[05:45] <bob2> yes, but you can think logically
[05:46] <bob2> and the information you gave is not nearly enough for someont to help fix it :)
[05:46] <nemik> bob2...yea i suppose. when i have more time perhaps i should look into it. are you on the dev team?
[05:46] <Jonlleviathan> yes i can ... my question is....
[05:46] <Bite_Me_Bill> defendguin, I see what you mean.  That is strange.
[05:46] <Jonlleviathan> i changed my repostiories like in the ubuntuguide 5.04 and i get error msg in synaptic about those universe andmultiverse things
[05:47] <nalioth> Jonlleviathan: dont use ubuntuguide
[05:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Jonlleviathan about ubuntuguide
[05:47] <Jonlleviathan> i have a thread in ubuntu 5.04 my names "catastrophee" no one is replying
[05:47] <Hobbsee> !tell Jonlleviathan about repositories
[05:47] <therocker> www.ubuntguide.org
[05:47] <therocker> check tht out jon
[05:47] <bob2> the forums are also useless
[05:47] <kevogod> !ubuntuguide
[05:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[05:47] <bob2> Jonlleviathan: so, paste the error to #flood
[05:47] <nalioth> therocker: please dont advise ubuntuguide in here
[05:47] <dhonn> lol i downgraded to warty, and im noticing that its snappier.  Could xfree86 be faster than xorg
[05:48] <Hobbsee> !tell chicano- about faq
[05:48] <HrdwrBoB> dhonn: not really, no
[05:49] <Bite_Me_Bill> dhonn, may I ask what your basic system specs are?
[05:49] <GTroy_> is it common for totem to play only about 3 seconds?
[05:49] <intelikey> dhonn you could have less running on the older system.   custom`i'zation is king.
[05:49] <Bite_Me_Bill> dhonn, I feelt the otherway and I'm only running a 1.4 GHZ with 512MB Ram
[05:49] <Jonlleviathan> lol
[05:50] <Jonlleviathan> i never relaized ubotu is a "bot"
[05:50] <therocker> lol
[05:50] <intelikey> never or just now ?
[05:50] <dhonn> 1.8 pentium4-m 256 mb of ram
[05:51] <Jonlleviathan> ... anyway... my repositorys are messed up the link ubotu gave me isnt progressing any further
[05:51] <Jonlleviathan> Could not download all repository indexes
[05:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Jonlleviathan about sources
[05:51] <bob2> Jonlleviathan: so, as I said 3 times, paste the error from apt to #flood
[05:51] <bob2> Jonlleviathan: along with your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:51] <Jonlleviathan> bob2 how do i do that ?
[05:51] <benplaut> anyone know what time Amaranth is usually online?
[05:51] <bob2> you join the #flood hcannel
[05:51] <Bite_Me_Bill> dhonn, Hmm..  Ok thanks for the info.  My guess would be it's the difference in the ram then.
[05:51] <Jonlleviathan> am i in flood >?
[05:51] <nalioth> benplaut: he's in and out in the evenings US central time
[05:51] <J2Dope> back ya'll .. here's my problem. i can ping ANY website. but i can't BROWSE any website (ie. in firefox)
[05:51] <felipegeek> hello to all.
[05:52] <benplaut> k
[05:52] <Toma-> anyone know how what might be causing my sound to 'no sound'? ive turned up all the alsamixer, and tried cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp and so on, but still no sound
[05:52] <nalioth> Jonlleviathan: type /j #flood
[05:52] <bob2> Jonlleviathan: nevermind
[05:52] <redmonk> help! breezy ppc livecd on a 17" powerbook, SMC2835W wireless card
[05:52] <NoUse> !seen Amaranth
[05:52] <ubotu> amaranth <n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 5h 34m 13s ago, saying: '!tell racookier about sudo'.
[05:52] <dhonn> i was running hoary and breezy too, it feels different
[05:52] <benplaut> nalioth: if you see him, tell him thanks from me for the new smeg :)
[05:52] <bob2> redmonk: your question no verb
[05:52] <nalioth> redmonk: ask a logical question, please
[05:52] <felipegeek> Anyone familiar with enabling sony laptop (PCG-FXA32) controls in Ubuntu
[05:52] <dhonn> its been ages since ive used warty until now
[05:52] <redmonk> all: getting to the verb - sorry
[05:52] <J2Dope> anyone please?
[05:52] <nalioth> benplaut: you dont want to thank a beta tester? lol
[05:53] <redmonk> the prism54 driver is loading, but the card won't setup and it's not seeing my AP
[05:53] <felipegeek> i would like to get my screen brightness down to preserve battery power.
[05:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell redmonk about wireless
[05:53] <felipegeek> i am in Miami...no power.  running off left over juice in few UPSes I own.  just blew the fuse on my car cig lighter socket to run inverter
[05:53] <nekostar> nalioth, do a lot of ppl try dual monitor's with nvidia cards?
[05:53] <cafuego_> Hint: move.
[05:53] <Bite_Me_Bill> dhonn, I was just getting ready to install it on a 800Mhz with 256 system.  Glad you said something I might reconsider it.
[05:54] <nalioth> nekostar: some do
[05:54] <felipegeek> i am trying to get power consumption down so that i can get longer life out of power sources.
[05:54] !lilo:*! new channel, ##gadgets, for builders, tinkerers and coders to talk about gadgets (hardware and software)
[05:54] <intelikey> J2Dope try another web browser see if it is ff related or not
[05:54] <nekostar> b/c in the forums i found an awesome link thats literally flawless for me :)
[05:54] <stevenj> can someone please tell me if this is normal on a clean breezy install [xsession errors]  if not, any idea what to do? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WJGvAu37.html
[05:54] <J2Dope> intelikey: what other browsers does ubuntu come with?
[05:54] <nalioth> nekostar: why do you use two nicks?
[05:54] <redmonk> nalioth: would the V2 be on the card itself?
[05:54] <nekostar> on this irc i have 3
[05:54] <redmonk> do you think?
[05:55] <nekostar> sometimes i have more than one client logged in..
[05:55] <intelikey> J2Dope i don't know.  i don't use it.
[05:55] <nekostar> sometimes from more than one comp/locatioin depending :)
[05:55] <nekostar> *location
[05:55] <nekostar> nekostar/starscalling/nipplesrulz
[05:55] <J2Dope> intelikey: well everything works fine on windowsXP on this network. but trying to get ubuntu online... its killing me
[05:55] <nalioth> redmonk: plug in the card and open a terminal. type "sudo lshw" and see what it tells you about the card
[05:56] <redmonk> ok
[05:56] <nekostar> and sometimes i just feel like one nick sometimes another.. ppl in linux chans dont seem to like nipplesrulz as much as the other two so i dont use it as much :/
[05:56] <nalioth> J2Dope: over a dozen web browsers, use synaptic and read about them
[05:56] <dhonn> brb
[05:56] <nekostar> J2Dope, what exactly are you trying to do?
[05:56] <nekostar> is the nic card configured properly?
[05:57] <J2Dope> nekostar: ok i have a network. all pc's run winxp, and they all get online fine (thru adsl)
[05:57] <nekostar> i have a custom setup on my local network
[05:57] <Bite_Me_Bill> nekostar, maybe cause it sounds like a 11 YO boy that has just found out about girls.  LOL
[05:57] <J2Dope> now i've used ubuntu before and like it... so i installed it dual boot on my laptop.. but it can't get online
[05:57] <nekostar> lol Bite_Me_Bill great story behind that nick..
[05:57] <J2Dope> it can ping any website in the world, but can't view it in mozilla.
[05:57] <nekostar> oh that MIGHT be easy J2Dope
[05:57] <nekostar> do you use static ip's on the windows machines?
[05:57] <J2Dope> please let it be easy!
[05:57] <J2Dope> i hate hard work
[05:57] <J2Dope> no. DHCP
[05:58] <nekostar> o:
[05:58] <kevogod> Are you blocking port 80 for whatever reason?
[05:58] <J2Dope> i can make em static though. i've done it before and it worked
[05:58] <nekostar> lets check that you have it set up correctly then.
[05:58] <J2Dope> not to my knowledge kevogod
[05:58] <nekostar> are you also near one of your windows machines?
[05:58] <Toma-> anyone know how what might be causing my sound to 'no sound'? ive turned up all the alsamixer, and tried cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp and so on, but still no sound. i can get sound out of tvtime but not xmms...
[05:58] <J2Dope> ok (btw im typing this from a winxp machine)
[05:58] <J2Dope> my ubuntu installation is next to me
[05:58] <kevogod> Are you using a router for the connection?
[05:59] <NoUse> Toma- when you turned  up alsasound, did you unmute the channels as well?
[05:59] <Toma-> NoUse: of course :)
[05:59] <NoUse> !tell Toma- about sound
[05:59] <nekostar> perfect: in windows pull up your nick card and do properties on tcp/ip to see: 1. system addy 2. subnet mask 3.default gateway
[05:59] <redmonk> nalioth: *-network DISABLED (product: Interstil ISL3890 [Prinsm GT/Prism Duette] )
[05:59] <J2Dope> kevogod: the adsl router is in the house.. then i run a network cable frmo the inside pc, to this room, into a router.. then me and my gf plug into the router in this room
[06:00] <J2Dope> if that makes sense
[06:00] <kevogod> So it runs through two routerse?
[06:00] <kevogod> *routers
[06:00] <J2Dope> yesm
[06:00] <nalioth> redmonk: type "sudo network-admin" and activate it
[06:00] <nekostar> then look in the other tabs [might be in advanced... my windows machine not near me]  to see your dhcp servers, shuold have internet and one from your router as well [router optional i think] 
[06:00] <NoUse> J2Dope why two routers?
[06:00] <Toma-> NoUse: the problem is, it reports no problems.
[06:00] <kevogod> How many computers do you have?
[06:00] <J2Dope> 3.. sometimes 4
[06:00] <nekostar> i also use 2 routers :)
[06:01] <visor> hi guys
[06:01] <J2Dope> the adsl router inside only has 2 spare ports. and i cbf buying another long network cable and crawling under the house with it
[06:01] <visor> how you doing?
[06:01] <nekostar> is the laptop plugged into a router that another computer is also plugged into and is getting online with?
[06:01] <J2Dope> so i just bought a router
[06:01] <redmonk> (apologies up front for the dumb Qs - first experience with linux)
[06:01] <Toma-> NoUse: modules are loaded, mixers are up, everything plays, no complains in dmesg, but no sound
[06:01] <NoUse> Toma- did you read through the links ubotu sent you?
[06:01] <J2Dope> *another router to be precise
[06:01] <Toma-> NoUse: still reading
[06:01] <NoUse> J2Dope you don't mean 'switch' do you?
[06:02] <anthony> Hey can someone please give me a link to a working respository file
[06:02] <NoUse> !tell anthony about repos
[06:02] <J2Dope> NoUse: both boxes said ROUTER when i bought them
[06:02] <Jonlleviathan> yeah here anthony
[06:02] <Jonlleviathan> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:02] <intelikey> visor ever feel invisable ?
[06:02] <nekostar> you might have a problem that i did when i started my second router J2Dope
[06:02] <J2Dope> yep. definately ROUTERS
[06:02] <visor> do you guys know if there is a kernel package with the orinoco drivers with scanning support included?
[06:02] <J2Dope> do tell nekostar
[06:02] <nekostar> it was the same kind as my first router so the signal could not get past it and on out!
[06:02] <visor> intelikey: invisable?
[06:02] <anthony> Hm
[06:02] <anthony> I've done that
[06:03] <anthony> When I go there, it gives me an error.
[06:03] <nekostar> you have to change the default gateway and fiddle with the dhcp settings on the closest one
[06:03] <kevogod> It would make more sense to me to use a switch or hub in combination with the one router.
[06:03] <intelikey> visor nm
[06:03] <NoUse> anthony what error?
[06:03] <nekostar> i dont even remember what i set mine to or i would tell ya >.<
[06:03] <J2Dope> change my default gateway to what? currently it's 192.168.1.1
[06:03] <nekostar> both linksys wired then?
[06:03] <J2Dope> pardon?
[06:04] <nekostar> if you change the CLOSEST router to the laptop to say 192.168.2.2
[06:04] <stevenj> Does anyone get * (gnome-session:8221): WARNING **: Host name lookup failure on localhost.   in Xsession errors?
[06:04] <anthony> Hm Jonlleviathan, should I put exactly that in the file?
[06:04] <redmonk> nalioth: stil says disabled, though in the network settings it says it's active
[06:04] <visor> i've heard there is support within the newest source version but i dont know where to download the drivers, do you know at least the place to get the orinoco drivers from source?
[06:04] <nekostar> then the system will access the OTHER router when trying for 192.168.1.1
[06:04] <nalioth> redmonk: are you able to wirelessly surf?
[06:04] <redmonk> nope
[06:04] <J2Dope> ah i sorta getcha nekostar, ill try changing the closet routers IP to me to 192.168.1.2 (and leave the adsl router as 192.168.1.1)
[06:04] <Toma-> NoUse: tried it all.
[06:04] <redmonk> no ping etc
[06:05] <nekostar> um
[06:05] <anthony> anthony@anthony:~$ sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[06:05] <anthony> Reading package lists... Done
[06:05] <anthony> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:05] <anthony> E: Couldn't find package thunderbird
[06:05] <anthony> I still can't install anything
[06:05] <anthony> ..
[06:05] <nekostar> i would change it to something like 2.2 but sure
[06:05] <NoUse> Toma- maybe try knoppix or a live cd and see if you get sound
[06:05] <redmonk> nalioth: this is interesting
[06:05] <nalioth> anthony: it's mozilla-thunderbird
[06:05] <Ninjew> anthony: its mozilla-thunderbird
[06:05] <anthony> ...
[06:05] <nekostar> that way its not even trying to be on the same subnet but in theory i think either would work yes
[06:05] <kevogod> anthony, It's mozilla-thunderbird, :P
[06:05] <nekostar> then fiddle with dhcp
[06:05] <redmonk> under pcmcia, the mccard is listed as "unclaimed"
[06:05] <NoUse> anthony try using apt-cache search :-)
[06:05] <Tokenizer> what's a good ftp client for Ubuntu?
[06:05] <Toma-> NoUse: i get sound out of my tvcard thats directed thru the sound card, so it works, its just being crap :(
[06:06] <anthony> heh got it.
[06:06] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> How can I Chang Ubuntu 5,10 to KDE ?
[06:06] <bimberi> Tokenizer: nautilus (Places, Connect To Server)
[06:06] <anthony> Now, I have a brother printer
[06:06] <redmonk> ah, this is telling: it's listed as SMC2835-V3 Wireless CardBus Adapter
[06:06] <anthony> Would ubuntu support this?
[06:06] <kevogod> Tokenizer, Places > Connect to Server... works
[06:06] <NoUse> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:06] <intelikey> anthony remember "apt-cache search <blah> "    :)
[06:06] <nalioth> redmonk: at this point i'm out of knowledge
[06:06] <anthony> yep, will do
[06:06] <anthony> thank you guys.
[06:06] <nekostar> nalioth, http://www.glawing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14 was the reason i was asking about the frequency of ppl trying to do dual nvidia monitors... its worked flawlessly for me and a couple others running ubuntu breezy which to me means YAY :D
[06:06] <anthony> Did you read my above sentence?
[06:06] <intelikey> anthony keeps you from feeling that way.... :)
[06:06] <redmonk> the list of supported cards lists V2
[06:06] <redmonk> thanks nalioth - you've been kind though
[06:06] <anthony> I have an OLD brother mfc 7150C printer
[06:07] <anthony> would ubuntu support this?
[06:07] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:07] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:07] <NoUse> anthony google around
[06:07] <nalioth> nekostar: yes, you posted that yesterday
[06:07] <anthony> Would I have to install some driver?
[06:07] <anthony> heh
[06:07] <NoUse> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa use sudo
[06:07] <nalioth> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: close all your apt-get windows
[06:07] <nekostar> oh, right sorry... im a little excited nalioth >_<
[06:07] <intelikey> anthony yeah i think it will print "RAW"
[06:08] <bimberi> anthony: System -> Administration -> Printing, Brother MFC 7150C is there :)
[06:08] <nalioth> nekostar: keep your URL handy, it'll be of help to folks
[06:08] <Tokenizer> kevogod: holy mother of god...... this is so efficient... i'm in love with linux
[06:08] <Tokenizer> can't switch back to windows now
[06:09] <anthony> are you serious!?
[06:09] <La_PaRCa> um,to whom should I go if I wanted to help trannslating an app in launchpad?
[06:09] <anthony> I dont have to "install" this printer?
[06:09] <anthony> ubuntu comes with it by default?
[06:09] <nekostar> nalioth, is there a way for me to scan a subnet locally? i forgot one of my router addys and it mgiht be handy to actually know >_< i remind myself of that bash about the guy that lost the computer in his house.. still pinging.. but i dont know what to ping.. :P for instance 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.5.5 or something?
[06:09] <DonL> Hi there
[06:09] <nekostar> herrow!
[06:09] <kevogod> Tokenizer, Yea, it's good. :P
[06:09] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> nouse now its doing all sorts of stuff !?
[06:09] <alekz> wich is the command to open a app with sudo permission ?
[06:10] <kevogod> GNU/Linux for the sake of Stallman.
[06:10] <NoUse> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa stuff you say? like installing software?
[06:10] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> yeah Like Dl
[06:10] <DonL> Screwed up my gnome panel. Anyone know how to get it back to normal, or at least have "Applications Places System" back?
[06:10] <anthony> holy SHIT
[06:10] <anthony> ubuntu
[06:10] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> im a noob
[06:10] <anthony> OWNS
[06:10] <anthony> how the hell does it support this printer?
[06:10] <anthony> lol
[06:10] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> Linux is Crazy
[06:10] <kevogod> anthony, Language please.
[06:10] <anthony> sorry :(
[06:11] <anthony> im just surprised
[06:11] <kevogod> anthony, Because servers need support for a lot of printers.
[06:11] <nalioth> anthony: please dont educate us in scatologicalities
[06:11] <NoUse> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa yeah it'll download and intall everything you need
[06:11] <anthony> scatologicalities, heh.
[06:11] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> then will it change to KDE automatically ?
[06:11] <Xenguy> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: crazy is good :-)
[06:12] <bastardkestrel> hi,
[06:12] <NoUse> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa you might need to select KDE as the session at th elogin screen
[06:12] <bastardkestrel> i got a simple question, by the way Ubuntu is still best distro for notebooks
[06:13] <bastardkestrel> i want to use the keyboard to applications menu
[06:13] <redmonk> anyone know if there's a non-ndis way to get the SMC2835W-V3 pccards working?
[06:13] <bastardkestrel> to highlight it
[06:13] <cafuego_> redmonk: exceedingly unlikely, unless you want 'driverloader'.
[06:14] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: hard to parse, but Ubu works nicely on my laptop
[06:14] <cafuego_> Which is 1) payware and 2) also crap
[06:14] <redmonk> grr. running PPC here, so ndis is not an option
[06:14] <redmonk> ok, thx all
[06:14] <cafuego_> redmonk: Well
[06:14] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: working very good here but have to shut off nvidia driver sometimes
[06:14] <nalioth> redmonk: if you've just purchased the card, take it back
[06:15] <cafuego_> redmonk: There are cheapish USB wifi dongles that work with free drivers.
[06:15] <redmonk> it was a loaner from work
[06:15] <nalioth> redmonk: and buy a supported-by-the-linux-kernel usb device
[06:15] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: usually somebody else has had the same problem, so you just have to find them (here or on the web)
[06:15] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: How can i get keyboard to highlight apllication?
[06:15] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> I have a 180Mhz box Here and its got a 3 gb HDD and I want to in stall Linux On it what Distro and Version should i use ?
[06:15] <cafuego_> redmonk: Note that people _are_ writing an Airport Extreme driver :-)
[06:15] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: I don't know what you mean :-)
[06:15] <Toma-> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: slackware
[06:15] <redmonk> cafuego: which people?
[06:16] <suresh> hey guys
[06:16] <suresh> is firefox broken on breezy?
[06:16] <Toma-> suresh: no
[06:16] <alekz> suresh, firefox is working very well on breezy
[06:16] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: i use arrow key and enter
[06:16] <cafuego_> redmonk: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[06:16] <Toma-> sound however, is not (
[06:16] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> btw it wont boot from any of my CDs ......except the ones for windows and what not
[06:16] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: nvidia is screwing up again
[06:16] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: like Shift-arrowkey  ?
[06:16] <nalioth> redmonk: i have a url, but right now it's very alpha in nature
[06:16] <redmonk> so i see
[06:17] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: yes, i want to only use keyboard
[06:17] <visor> so, nobody here has a orinoco based wlan card?
[06:17] <vinzer> can someone here please help me with ubuntu breezy and a smartlink modem? :)
[06:17] <redmonk> oh well. so the question is, do i still want to install this if i can only use wired access to get online
[06:17] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel:  try that then
[06:17] <frank23> visor: I read that the orinoco driver is incapable of scanning for networks
[06:17] <redmonk> hrm
[06:17] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: from the start i dont want to have to move a curser anywhere
[06:17] <bastardkestrel> ok
[06:17] <redmonk> aw hell, why not
[06:18] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: ok, but there are some other keyboard shortcuts
[06:18] <cafuego_> redmonk: Well, if you have a pcmcia slot, an orinoco 802.11b card is dirt cheap and will work.
[06:18] <z|bandito> hi
[06:18] <redmonk> yeah, i'll look into it
[06:18] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: what do you want to do?
[06:18] <Agamotto> Hallo all
[06:18] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: weird if i #glx in xorg.conf my touchpad works better
[06:18] <cafuego_> visor: Downlaod the patched orinoco driver and build it.
[06:18] <stevenj> is it ok to delete .ICEauthority?
[06:19] <z|bandito> how do you share a folder via smb?  i have the ethernet active, and the folder shared as smb, but when i try to access it I get 'incorrect password'
[06:19] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: good luck
[06:19] <visor> frank23: that's odd, i updated the kernel on fedora and it worked
[06:19] <Agamotto> stevenj:  Yes, sometimes you have to delete it when KDE goes south on you
[06:19] <visor> cafuego_: where can i get it?
[06:19] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: right thanks, im going to try fluxbox
[06:20] <nalioth> redmonk: you can get a usb dongle for >$25USD that will work fine
[06:20] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: It has its fans, and lean too I hear
[06:20] <stevenj> Agamotto, I use Gnome, the only thing I see is ice errors
[06:20] <cafuego_> visor: http://ozlabs.org/people/dgibson/dldwd/orinoco-0.15rc2.tar.gz
[06:20] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: hey
[06:20] <stevenj> Agamotto, in xsession errors
[06:20] <nalioth> stevenj: as in .ICEauthority?
[06:20] <cafuego_> visor: I use it here, works fine (kismet/airsnort)
[06:21] <Agamotto> stevenj:  Ok, fair enough.  I only know that I had problems with it under KDE, and deleting the file solved it
[06:21] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: i still cant highlight applications, shift arrow does not go out window
[06:21] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: do you live in the states BTW?
[06:21] <nalioth> stevenj: it's a known bug, just delete your ~/.ICEauthority
[06:22] <intelikey> [alt] +[tab] 
[06:22] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: yes, i just need to assign keys
[06:22] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: nashville
[06:22] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: but am eurpean
[06:22] <stevenj> nalioth, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/E8ExGo63.html
[06:22] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: down South I hear :-)
[06:22] <splatteralus> When I boot I get an error about usb ohci, when that happens the light goes out on my USB mouse and it doesn't work once I get into gnome... is this  a module problem?
[06:22] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: european, from where?
[06:23] <Hobbsee> !tell Jonlleviathan about javadeb
[06:23] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: where are you?
[06:23] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: Canada
[06:23] <visor> cafuego_: thanks, i'll try that... i guess compiling and just replacing the old modules wont work, would them?
[06:23] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: Germany and Finland, and some irish
[06:23] <meinstein> Just moved to ubuntu from gentoo, a bit confused about something: if I want to change kernels through synaptic, how do I do this?  Want to go from linux-image-386 to -686 - just install one and uninstall the other?
[06:23] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: you've moved around, cool
[06:23] <stevenj> nalioth, thanks
[06:24] <bastardkestrel> Xenguy: long story, canada uses mandrake doesnt it?
[06:24] <vinzer> anyone, please help a noob moving from mandriva to ubuntu?
[06:24] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: dunno, I never have :-)
[06:24] <bastardkestrel> mandiva
[06:24] <bastardkestrel> mandrival
[06:24] <intelikey> lol
[06:24] <bastardkestrel> vinzer: whats up?
[06:24] <iceman> ok, linux multiplayer online game... whats out here, anyone got some sites ?
[06:25] <cafuego_> visor: yeah, that'll work fine :-)
[06:25] <bastardkestrel> xenguy: wish i was canadian mate
[06:25] <Agamotto> meinstein:  install the new one, reboot, then remove the old one
[06:25] <cafuego_> visor: Just make sure you use gcc-3.4
[06:25] <vinzer> bastardkestrel: are there pre-built slmodem packages for breezy? i can't move to ubuntu without the internet working. :)
[06:25] <meinstein> agamotto: thank you!
[06:25] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: it's more the Aussie's that use that turn of phrase ;-)
[06:25] <darknuala> is there a program in ubuntu like streamripper/streamtuner, but for videos?
[06:26] <visor> cafuego_: ohh, good hint, thank you very much
[06:26] <bastardkestrel> oh!
[06:26] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: we say 'eh' a lot :P
[06:26] <Agamotto> darknuala:  Yes, streamtuner
[06:26] <bastardkestrel> lol
[06:26] <darknuala> Agamotto, i thought it was only for music
[06:26] <bastardkestrel> fken almost midnight here
[06:26] <Agamotto> darknuala:  streamtuner should be able to handle video
[06:26] <Xenguy> cafuego_: you forgot the igloos :P
[06:26] <Jonlleviathan> can anyone explain to me how to install jre please ?
[06:27] <cafuego_> Xenguy: too hard to lift :-(
[06:27] <Jonlleviathan> im donwloading them now just need to know the temrinal commands
[06:27] <Xenguy> cafuego_: cold too ;-)
[06:27] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop <---------that did a bunch of Down loading and installing but i dont see KDE in Session @ the logon Screen
[06:27] <bastardkestrel> vinzer: i dont know
[06:27] <bastardkestrel> but
[06:27] <vbhanu> hi, how do i get a for loop working on a command line, i tried this: ((for i in `find $(pwd))); do; date -r $i; done;
[06:27] <vbhanu> but it is not working
[06:27] <z|bandito> how do you share a folder via smb?  i have the ethernet active, and the folder shared as smb, but when i try to access it I get 'incorrect password'
[06:28] <GIgaClon> anyone here use kdevelop?
[06:28] <bastardkestrel> vinzer: what kind of modem?
[06:28] <iceman> anyone got a link to download enemyterratory ...
[06:28] <bastardkestrel> eh
[06:28] <bastardkestrel> eh!
[06:28] <Hhhhh> iceman, fileplanet or filefront should have it
[06:28] <bastardkestrel> xenguy: eh!
[06:28] <Jonlleviathan> Can anyone xplain how to install the java runtimeenvironment plz
[06:29] <wickedpuppy> GIgaClon, why ?
[06:29] <Xenguy> vbhanu: describe what you are trying to do
[06:29] <wickedpuppy> !java
[06:29] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-55315677ab8f9890825549fa2ecebdde4bc68087 and also see !javadeb
[06:29] <GIgaClon> I can't seem to find the CVS features in it
[06:29] <Xenguy> bastardkestrel: Amerikans say uh-huh a lot we notice ;-)
[06:29] <vbhanu> Xenguy : i am trying to get the absolute  path and the modification time of all the files in the dir, recursively
[06:29] <alekz> how can i configure a smtp to send from any domain to any domain ?
[06:29] <iceman> got to sign up, and then try to remember all the stupid passwords for fileplanet i get tired ot them
[06:30] <intelikey> un-huh
[06:30] <wickedpuppy> GIgaClon, no idea ... ask in mailing list :P
[06:30] <bastardkestrel> vinzer: try it
[06:30] <bastardkestrel> it should work
[06:30] <Xenguy> vbhanu: wow, that's a project :-)
[06:30] <Agamotto> Xenguy:  Ever notice how Italians just stretch out the end of a word instead of eh or uh
[06:30] <vbhanu> Xenguy : is it tough??
[06:30] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> 373 pakages to Dl to get KDE !!!!!
[06:30] <Xenguy> Agamotto: they use their hands a lot too =)
[06:30] <bastardkestrel> vinzer: theres a driver
[06:30] <Xenguy> vbhanu: I'd have to think about that one for awhile ;-)
[06:31] <Xenguy> vbhanu: but that's just me
[06:31] <Agamotto> Xenguy:  Most europeans couldn't speak without gestures
[06:31] <splatteralus> It seems that none of my usb ports on my laptop are working... is this a module problem?
[06:31] <vbhanu> Xenguy : haha...
[06:31] <NoUse> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa KDE doesn't advertise itself as a lightweight desktop environment
[06:31] <Agamotto> Xenguy:  I know I sure can't
[06:31] <iceman> linux needs a site like downloads . com... no stupid signup to get what u want
[06:31] <vinzer> well, i did try the sl-modem-daemon from the breezy packages, but i can't get it to compile
[06:31] <bastardkestrel> damn, i have to shut down nvidia
[06:31] <wickedpuppy> iceman, we got better ... synaptic
[06:31] <Agamotto> KDE has quite a bit too it, hence the massive download
[06:31] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> u think KDE is better than GNome ?
[06:32] <bastardkestrel> i like kde lots
[06:32] <wickedpuppy> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa, eh ah ... flame alert
[06:32] <benedict> #evince
[06:32] <NoUse> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa for future reference, you can get kubuntu CDs that will install KDE by default
[06:32] <bastardkestrel> just came from there
[06:32] <iceman> wickedpuppy dont think i can use synaptic to get wolfenstein enemy teratory
[06:32] <j-linux> KMail not working right -- it won't load all my IMAP folders.  I have about 20 folders on the server but only 4 are showing in KMAIL (all of them show in evolution)
[06:32] <vinzer> it's just sad how ubuntu doesn't include modem drivers in their releases. linux developed on the internet
[06:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> kde is way better than gnome.
[06:32] <bastardkestrel> I think its better only to have one
[06:32] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> yeah i have them Ordered
[06:32] <bastardkestrel> kde or gnome
[06:32] <wickedpuppy> iceman, cause nobody packed it ... why don't you try to pack it ?
[06:32] <z|bandito> do you have to create specific SMB users or does it use the system users?
[06:32] <j-linux> XFCE is my favorite :)
[06:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> it has configurable menus, working sessioning, and support for menu on taskbar.
[06:32] <cevizoglu> BROKEN_LADDER, no, enlightenment!
[06:33] <bastardkestrel> for me there were some minor issues having both
[06:33] <propagandhi> people need to prefix bold statements with 'In my opinion'
[06:33] <Pupeno> z|bandito: that is configurable on Samba.
[06:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> cevizoglu enlightment is just a window manager, not a desktop environment right?
[06:33] <PungeeShi> Hay guys .... how many of you are using Ubuntu Linux??
[06:33] <Jonlleviathan> Can i get some additional help on isntall java suntime
[06:33] <stevenj> nalioth, I deleted .ICEauthority, rebooted and the same ICE trans errors...strange
[06:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnome looks vastly better than kde though.
[06:33] <Xenguy> vbhanu: I dunno, it sounds like you need find and awk to do that
[06:33] <cevizoglu> BROKEN_LADDER, I was playing devil's advocate
[06:33] <wickedpuppy> PungeeShi, all of us
[06:33] <j-linux> PungeeShi: probably everyone
[06:33] <iceman> anyone have planet mirrors url...
[06:33] <bastardkestrel> kde has kmail which is cool
[06:34] <bastardkestrel> but you can run it from Ubuntu too
[06:34] <wickedpuppy> bastardkestrel, you can run kmail in gnome ..
[06:34] <wickedpuppy> yah
[06:34] <Agamotto> Kmail is a very nice program
[06:34] <bastardkestrel> yep
[06:34] <bastardkestrel> i do
[06:34] <PungeeShi> sorry to ask this silly question ... i have just start using the Ubuntu
[06:34] <j-linux> bastardkestrel: do you use KMail? I'm trying to set it up.  It doesn't download all my imap folder and I don't know why
[06:34] <wickedpuppy> so really ... there isn't much choice ... for example i always burn with k3b ... gnome or kde
[06:34] <cafuego_> iceman: deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu breezy main
[06:34] <Xenguy> vbhanu: and either 'for loop', as you say, or maybe 'xargs' -- it's too late for me to say :-)
[06:34] <bastardkestrel> but im starting to like evolution just now
[06:34] <Agamotto> PungeeShi:  The only truly silly question is the one you don't ask
[06:34] <vinzer> anyone willing to help out a noob in making a darn modem work with ubuntu, please message me. :)
[06:35] <PungeeShi> :)
[06:35] <wickedpuppy> PungeeShi, pls don't smile ... just ask pls ...
[06:35] <wickedpuppy> lol
[06:35] <intelikey> bastardkestrel you make it sound like kde and ubuntu are somehow mutually exclusive.....  duh   ubuntu is the distro kde is a desktop environment that runs on linux distros.....
[06:35] <iceman> cafuego_ thanks, can use the mirror and search .. think wolfenstein is in there
[06:35] <cafuego_> vinzer: Add the modem applet to your panel, right click it, choose "Properties' Have it detect the modem,a dd number,user,pass. Done.
[06:35] <bastardkestrel> you can run whatever you want to, its linux
[06:35] <PungeeShi> How would you rate Ubuntu compare to Redhat?
[06:35] <StarKruzr> has anyone heard of a set of commands in linux that allow you to dynamically expand a filesystem while it's mounted?
[06:36] <j-linux> PungeeShi: Ubuntu is much easier to set up and use
[06:36] <Agamotto> PungeeShi:  Much easier, as many of the config programs aren't hidden from you
[06:36] <StarKruzr> PungeeShi: a hell of a lot easier for a single user to set up and use
[06:36] <vinzer> modem applet? what's that?
[06:36] <bastardkestrel> intelikey: no i meant ubuntu and kubuntu
[06:36] <Xenguy> PungeeShi: you mean fedora, or redhat?
[06:36] <cafuego_> PungeeShi: The only time I ever used redhat was to login and reboot it so I could replace it with Debian, so I can't be of much help ;-)
[06:36] <PungeeShi> and for server ??
[06:36] <bastardkestrel> they use different desktop environments
[06:36] <Bite_Me_Bill> PungeeShi, I have seen more people stay with Ubuntu than Redhat coming from the Bowels of M$.
[06:36] <bastardkestrel> everything else should be same
[06:36] <cafuego_> vinzer: Right click panel, Chosoe 'Add to panel ...' -> Scroll to "System & Hardware', select 'Modem Monitor'.
[06:36] <j-linux> PungeeShi: I used Fedore Core 3 for a while.  It is ok but Ubuntu is much much better.
[06:37] <cafuego_> PungeeShi: For a server I'd honestly stick with Debian.
[06:37] <intelikey> bastardkestrel but either can use any disktop.   the differance is only in the default packaging...
[06:37] <bastardkestrel> intelikey: unfotunately i have a notebook that will work on only one.
[06:37] <Xenguy> cafuego_: that's the way I feel right now
[06:37] <iceman> yep, got to planet mirrors and theres enemyterratory... 2.55... now all i need is the 2.6 patch ...
[06:37] <cafuego_> Xenguy: Stability is good. And I like stability. Did I mention stability?
[06:37] <GIgaClon> power management doesn't work for me in ubuntu
[06:38] <Xenguy> cafuego_: to stability
[06:38] <bastardkestrel> intelikey: kde has the control center
[06:38] <cafuego_> cheers :-)
[06:38] <bastardkestrel> intelikey: called settings now i think
[06:38] <intelikey> and ?
[06:38] <wickedpuppy> PungeeShi, have you asked this question in #fedora or #redhat ?
[06:38] <vinzer> okay, i'll try that cafuego_. i hope that works. i'll log out of windows first. thanks! :)
[06:38] <vik> Is it possible to change the directory where Trash lives?
[06:39] <phiqtion> my memory load is completely relying on my 1gb ddr ram. why not in swap?
[06:39] <bastardkestrel> intelikey: what was your question?
[06:39] <PungeeShi> i also find Ubuntu very easy ... i got the CDs yesterday ... i am still using the Live CD.
[06:39] <bastardkestrel> intelikey: im just saying i cant use both
[06:39] <nalioth> phiqtion: your swap is for use AFTER your ram is used up
[06:39] <tito_> how long did it take for you guys to get your cd's from ubuntu
[06:39] <PungeeShi> no i didnt ask in #redhat
[06:39] <cafuego_> nalioth: Not quite.
[06:39] <wickedpuppy> PungeeShi, you know what is #fedora right ?
[06:39] <Agamotto> PungeeShi:  Live CD = ultimate security
[06:39] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> is there a Defrag type thing for linux?
[06:39] <PungeeShi> it took me arround more then 2 months
[06:39] <bastardkestrel> intelikey: i thought at first it was gdm and kdm
[06:40] <Ekibyougami> tito_ the last time i ordered cds it took about 2 weeks
[06:40] <cafuego_> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa: You don't need one.
[06:40] <NoUse> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa linux doesn't get fragmented
[06:40] <phiqtion> nalioth: how the hell on earth, running limewire, mp3 player and gaim can load 954mb of ram in kde?
[06:40] <nalioth> cafuego_: really? my swap is not ever used at more then 1% (if that)
[06:40] <tito_> cool
[06:40] <cafuego_> NoUse: yes, it does.
[06:40] <tito_> 2 months not cool
[06:40] <bimberi> vik: well you could try making ~/.Trash a symlink.  But why?
[06:40] <nalioth> phiqtion: you said java, hehhehehehehehehehhe
[06:40] <tito_> mine is working on 3weeks
[06:40] <kevogod> How can I get gnatmake for Ubuntu?
[06:40] <cafuego_> nalioth: Swap:      1012052     693348     318704
[06:40] <NoUse> cafuego_ but it defrags itself
[06:40] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> how can i see how much HDD space i have ?
[06:40] <cafuego_> nalioth: idle apps get swapped out so the ram they take up cna be used as file cache.
[06:41] <intelikey> bastardkestrel i didn't have one.     i just commented on "<bastardkestrel> kde has kmail which is cool & <bastardkestrel> but you can run it from Ubuntu too"    my comment was. "<intelikey> bastardkestrel you make it sound like kde and ubuntu are somehow mutually exclusive."
[06:41] <bastardkestrel> intelikey:  right
[06:41] <vik> bimberi: would be nice except that I want to do it on a FAT32 filesystem. Why? So I can keep the Gnome, KDE, and Windows trashes in the same folder
[06:41] <cafuego_> NoUse: No, it's just not quite as retarded about ntfs or fat32 about fragmenting to begin with.
[06:41] <bastardkestrel> well you can run kde desktop or kubuntu
[06:41] <tito_> what are the differences in the filesystems......... should i use reiserfs or xfs or ext3?????????
[06:42] <NoUse> tito_ use more question marks and maybe we'll remember
[06:42] <cafuego_> tito_: Use ext3. It's the most stable and best supported of the three.
[06:42] <kevogod> Commence filesystem flame war.
[06:42] <Agamotto> tito_:  You should pretty much stick to ext3
[06:42] <bur[n] er> reiser is faster though ;)
[06:42] <bastardkestrel> intelikey:  not sure what you mean, they are not exclusive
[06:42] <bimberi> vik: seems reasonable :) but yeah the fat32 bit, dunno 'bout that
[06:42] <kevogod> bur[n] er, You're such a nonconformist.
[06:42] <tito_> i heard reiser was faster
[06:42] <cafuego_> bur[n] er: If you want speed over stability your Linux privileges have been revoked ;-)
[06:42] <iceman> 3ddownloads linked to linuxgames, no stupid signup
[06:43] <tito_> lol
[06:43] <Agamotto> The next version of Reiser might be 'stable' enough for everyone's daily use
[06:43] <redmonk> is there a suggested order of installing dual boot OSes?
[06:43] <bur[n] er> speed for OS, and stability for my files :)
[06:43] <kevogod> I use ReiserFS on all of my partitions. Yea, that's right.
[06:43] <cafuego_> redmonk: Install Linux after whatever else you want.
[06:43] <redmonk> should i partition in OS X then install ubuntu? or vice versa
[06:43] <redmonk> ah
[06:43] <redmonk> thx
[06:43] <Agamotto> redmonk:  Windows whatever should always be installed first
[06:43] <bastardkestrel> intelikey: someone asked about kubuntu
[06:43] <bur[n] er> with an rsync backup of my reiser to another drive... just in case ;)
[06:43] <z3r0x> does anybody know how to install kdialog without installing the whole kde source? I need it for a superkaramba theme
[06:43] <cafuego_> redmonk: if sharing with OSX< sue OSX to partition the disk.
[06:44] <jmworx> Are there plans to bring OOo 2.0 to Breezy or is it going to be for the next release only?
[06:44] <bastardkestrel> intelikey: i dont see it necessary to have the 2 different window managers
[06:44] <cafuego_> redmonk: What you do is give OSX some space,a nd elave the space for Linux unpartitioned at the end of the disk.
[06:44] <redmonk> ah
[06:44] <redmonk> gotcha
[06:44] <jmworx> (I mean as opposed to the current RC version)
[06:44] <Agamotto> redmonk:  Please, foreplay should be limited to the bedroom
[06:44] <iceman> is there a app like superkaramba for gnome, better than gdesklets ?
[06:44] <Xenguy> jmworx: I thought it was already ther
[06:44] <cafuego_> redmonk: That way Linux can partition the free space as it sees fir.
[06:44] <tito_> how big should my boot partition be.. and my swap?
[06:44] <jmworx> Xenguy: I've got 1.9.129 on ly system
[06:44] <bur[n] er> z3r0x: use gdesklets instead of superkaramba if you don't want kde :)
[06:44] <Xenguy> jmworx: er, there
[06:44] <cafuego_> redmonk: (Coz it needs a special tiny HFS partition for booting from)
[06:44] <intelikey> z3r0x i believe that kdialog is part of kdebase
[06:44] <Xenguy> jmworx: guess I'll have to check...
[06:45] <z3r0x> bur[n] er, thx for the tip
[06:45] <Agamotto> tito_:  boot should be no larger than 150meg usually, with swap being equal to twice your ram
[06:45] <iceman> gdesklets seems to lack the apps like superkaramba has ..
[06:45] <bastardkestrel> intelikey:  take care dude!
[06:45] <jmworx> Xenguy: I meant updating OOo2 to the final release instead of the RC.
[06:45] <cafuego_> jmworx: It'll be in breezy-backports probably.
[06:45] <kevogod> I have 6.9 MB of free space on my boot partition.
[06:45] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> how do i install this gyach-0.9.8.tar.gz???????/
[06:45] <tito_> thanx
[06:45] <alekz> how can i run a php script from terminal ?
[06:45] <intelikey> bastardkestrel k
[06:45] <rob_p> z3r0x:  Can you have it use zenity instead?  That's the gnome equivalent.
[06:45] <bastardkestrel> like tha name
[06:45] <cafuego_> jmworx: Or add "deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/  ./" in sources.list :-)
[06:45] <iceman> cafuego_ i finaly did get diablo II installed and running in wine .thanks for the help
[06:45] <bur[n] er> anyone else finding evolution-exchange to be a bit buggy lately?
[06:45] <bastardkestrel> mines my password by mistake
[06:46] <cafuego_> alekz: install php4-cli
[06:46] <Agamotto> BRB, kitty wants out
[06:46] <Xenguy> jmworx: I see what you mean
[06:46] <kevogod> Anyone know where I can get gnatmake for Ubuntu?
[06:46] <NoUse> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa any reason you can't use Gaim?
[06:46] <Xenguy> jmworx: but does it really make a large difference ?
[06:46] <bimberi> ubotu tell jmworx about ooo2
[06:46] <intelikey> :)
[06:46] <bastardkestrel> he he
[06:46] <alekz> thans cafuego
[06:46] <iceman> awsome, et downloading ..
[06:46] <nalioth> kevogod: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[06:46] <gr00ve> hey guys, i've got a little sound problem. can i grab some assistance?
[06:46] <bur[n] er> iceman: wine or cedega?
[06:46] <vureal> hi I'm trying to do apt-get update but I get this error msg : E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[06:46] <iceman> wine
[06:47] <ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa> Athenticating error whne trying to connect to Yahoo ....................
[06:47] <kevogod> nalioth, Why?
[06:47] <cafuego_> vureal: 'sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial'
[06:47] <Xenguy> vureal: change your mirror or wait a while :-)
[06:47] <Bite_Me_Bill> ScOrPiO-DrUiD-Wa, Connecting fine here.
[06:47] <Xenguy> vureal: er, what cafuego_ said
[06:47] <iceman> bur[n] er had to go wine... updated the wine version, and just a simple install, ad a little network file reconfiguration
[06:48] <cafuego_> vureal: For cleaning the package cache next time, use 'sudo apt-get clean' instead of rm :-)
[06:48] <Xenguy> cafuego_: hah
[06:48] <intelikey> vureal if /var/cache/apt/archives exists ^  you can "ls /var/cache/apt
[06:48] <bur[n] er> iceman: very cool :)  glad to hear the open source wine is making some strides... wonder if it'll play my old warcraft 2 :)
[06:48] <iceman> Anyone know any other good game for multiplayer in linux ...
[06:48] <Xenguy> cafuego_: nicely done.  What do you think of apt-get autoclean instead BTW?
[06:48] <kevogod> bur[n] er, It plays Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne.
[06:48] <kevogod> bur[n] er, I bet it will play Warcraft 2.
[06:49] <bur[n] er> kevogod: wine?  cedega does, I didn't know wine did?
[06:49] <Mike6> rob_p would you be able to help me with a registration problem?
[06:49] <kevogod> bur[n] er, Wine runs it quite well.
[06:49] <iceman> bur[n] er there is info on one ot the warcrafts on winehq's site...
[06:49] <bur[n] er> kevogod: a side note... ever since Breezy, my war3 frozen throne is effectively dead... too slow to even navigate menus
[06:49] <Bite_Me_Bill> kevogod, have you ran into many apps that won't work in wine?
[06:49] <vureal> thanks but now I get this error: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:49] <rob_p> Mike6:  Registration problem?
[06:49] <kevogod> bur[n] er, You must use the -opengl switch
[06:49] <kevogod> bur[n] er, Or your 3D acceleration is not working
[06:50] <bur[n] er> kevogod: i'm aware... still issues
[06:50] <JustSteve> hello, has anyone tried installing the ignorance plugin for GAIM under Breezy?
[06:50] <kevogod> Bite_Me_Bill, Sure, there are a few apps that fail to work.
[06:50] <bur[n] er> kevogod: it's working... just slow... was "usable" on hoary, but horrible on breezy... i think it's the xorg packages?  in any event, i have a crappy radeon 7000 anyway
[06:50] <Mike6> rob_p: yeah, i was reading the faq and it said to contact a staffer for help removing an old nick registration
[06:50] <intelikey> vureal do you need back-ports ?     blot it out and try again
[06:50] <StarKruzr> has anyone heard of a set of commands in linux that allow you to dynamically expand a filesystem while it's mounted?
[06:50] <kevogod> I have an ATI X300
[06:50] <kevogod> pretty bottom of the line
[06:50] <StarKruzr> or a fs type that lets you do same?
[06:50] <kevogod> (for that series)
[06:51] <iceman> Anyone know any good linux based Multiplayer games... i know od Americas army, enemy terratory, what else is out there ... besides farcry, and the retail games ...
[06:51] <bur[n] er> X300 is still a lot newer than Radeon 7000 ;)
[06:51] <Bite_Me_Bill> kevogod, Ok just wanted to make sure it wasn't just me.  Almost got the township to change away from MS but one app that is needed I couldn't get to run in wine. :(
[06:51] <JustSteve> iceman, Quake 4
[06:51] <StarKruzr> iceman: from multiverse, apt-get install uqm ;)
[06:51] <rob_p> Mike6:  I see.  Well, since I'm not a staffer, I guess I can't assist you.  However, I'm sure you could find one in #freenode...
[06:51] <StarKruzr> it's *technically* multiplayer...
[06:51] <kevogod> Bite_Me_Bill, Have you tried the 0.9 version?
[06:51] <Xenguy> Bite_Me_Bill: which app?
[06:51] <iceman> whats uqm ?
[06:51] <JustSteve> also Cube is *nix isn't it?
[06:52] <bur[n] er> JustSteve: it is
[06:52] <Bite_Me_Bill> kevogod, I think that was the version I tried last friday.
[06:52] <Mike6> rob_p: ok - sorry to have troubled you - I thought you might have been a staffer - thanks for that :)
[06:52] <vureal> intelikely: do you mean comment it out from sources.list?
[06:52] <StarKruzr> iceman: http://sc2.sourceforget.net/ <-- only one of the best computer games EVER MADE
[06:52] <intelikey>  vureal yes
[06:52] <StarKruzr> sorry
[06:52] <Bite_Me_Bill> Xenguy, It's from Firehousesoftware.com
[06:52] <iceman> SatrKruzr what is uqm ?
[06:52] <StarKruzr> iceman: http://sc2.sourceforge.net/ <-- only one of the best computer games EVER MADE
[06:52] <kevogod> Sweet! An application that did not work in previous versions works now in 0.9!
[06:52] <kevogod> My life is saved.
[06:52] <rob_p> Mike6:  No problem.  Good luck.  :-)
[06:52] <Xenguy> Bite_Me_Bill: what is the name of the app?
[06:53] <Bite_Me_Bill> Xenguy, Let me look at the exact name.
[06:53] <Ekibyougami> lol
[06:53] <StarKruzr> it's not precisely *boasting*
[06:53] <Xenguy> Bite_Me_Bill: OK
[06:53] <Ekibyougami> i have a 7.2 surround system
[06:53] <kevogod> Yea, I would not call that boasting.
[06:53] <bur[n] er> true...  elating about? ;)
[06:53] <JustSteve> http://sc2.sourceforget.net/         <= that's a game?
[06:53] <Ekibyougami> and an ear infection so i'm currently 100% deaf in my left ear
[06:53] <StarKruzr> JustSteve: that's a typo :p
[06:53] <Ekibyougami> and i was just wondering if my stereo was broken cause it doesnt sound stereo
[06:53] <iceman> interesting, what about a online server for it ?
[06:53] <Bite_Me_Bill> Xenguy, the install file is fh6.exe the name of the program is Firehouse 6
[06:53] <bur[n] er> JustSteve: without the t on sourceforge ;)
[06:54] <StarKruzr> iceman: there isn't one.  still one of the greatest games ever made though
[06:54] <JustSteve> you can also play the DOOM games under nix
[06:54] <StarKruzr> it's technically multiplayer
[06:54] <Xenguy> Bite_Me_Bill: records management software, looks like
[06:54] <bur[n] er> JustSteve: not the doom maps though
[06:54] <StarKruzr> in that you can play two players on one keyboard ;)
[06:54] <iceman> looking for multiplayer, Quake4's retail JustSteve ...
[06:54] <Agamotto> I am looking forward to Civ 4 and Elder Scrolls: Oblivion myself
[06:54] <Ekibyougami> irc is multiplayer =x
[06:55] <JustSteve> there is multiplayer for DOOM3 , it just sux
[06:55] <phiqtion> how can i get azureus?
[06:55] <JustSteve> irc is multiplayer notepad
[06:55] <StarKruzr> indeed it is
[06:55] <Bite_Me_Bill> Xenguy, Yes written with Foxpro.  If there were something like that in the OSS world there would be plenty of governments running to OSS
[06:55] <Xenguy> Bite_Me_Bill: sounds hard to replace with open source easily...
[06:55] <Xenguy> Bite_Me_Bill: Foxpro is very legacy
[06:55] <JustSteve> StarKruzr, you could try Automatix from the forums
[06:56] <vureal> intelikely: okay now there is this error W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[06:56] <Tokenizer> where can i find some info on how to install Perl on Ubuntu?
[06:56] <StarKruzr> JustSteve: ?  what are you referring to?
[06:56] <Xenguy> Tokenizer: I thought it was installed by default
[06:56] <nalioth> Tokenizer: you should already have perl
[06:56] <JustSteve> StarKruzr, hold on i'll link you
[06:56] <Xenguy> Tokenizer: but seek a 2nd opinion :-)
[06:56] <vinzer_x> does anyone know how to install a smartlink modem on breezy? :)
[06:56] <phiqtion> how can i get azureus?
[06:56] <sizzam> if i upgrade my processor from an AMD Sempron to an AMD Athlon XP,  will i have to make any changes to my ubuntu installation, or will it pick up everything it needs to do on its own
[06:56] <intelikey> vureal keyring error.... but i can't help ya with that.  ask someone else.
[06:56] <Tokenizer> i made one file .pl and when http://localhost/test.pl ...... it downloads the file.. i made .cgi, and it shows it as text
[06:57] <StarKruzr> phiqtion: did you already change your sources.list to include universe and multiverse?
[06:57] <Xenguy> Tokenizer: that's a web server issue
[06:57] <Xenguy> Tokenizer: er, configuration issue
[06:57] <vureal> what is a keyring error?
[06:58] <Bite_Me_Bill> Xenguy, I tried to send you a PM to keep this on Ubuntu.
[06:58] <Xenguy> vureal: there's a factoid for that...
[06:58] <intelikey> GNU-pg error
[06:58] <Agamotto> sizzam:  You should be ok, as long as you make any necessary changes in your BIOS
[06:58] <Xenguy> vureal: just had the same issue today
[06:58] <sizzam> agamotto - thanx
[06:58] <StarKruzr> you know, Ubuntu's big thing is desktops, but I have to say that it is also the easiest server install and configure I have ever had
[06:58] <phiqtion> StarKruzr: yes
[06:58] <JustSteve> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295                  <= automatix, decent way of picking and choosing the extra stuff you need. no win32 codecs though
[06:58] <StarKruzr> phiqtion: sudo apt-get install azureus didn't work?
[06:58] <vureal> a factoid? what's that?
[06:58] <nalioth> JustSteve: please dont advise "easy scripts"
[06:58] <intelikey> vureal what did you do downgrade to hoary from breezy or something ?
[06:58] <JustSteve> alright, srry
[06:59] <vureal> no, but I may have like compiled some programs myself
[06:59] <phiqtion> StarKruzr: nope
[06:59] <Xenguy> ubotu tell vureal about gpgerr
[06:59] <JustSteve> i didn't think it was a huge issue, it's sticked in the forums
[06:59] <nalioth> !gpgerr
[06:59] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[06:59] <phiqtion> StarKruzr: no installation candidate
[06:59] <kevin06> Does anyone know of any web design programs, like NVU, that can parse PHP and access MySQL in the previews?
[06:59] <nalioth> StarKruzr: becauae "easybuntu" and "automatix" have torn up several dozen users boxen
[07:00] <nalioth> kevin06: er, NVU?
[07:00] <intelikey> vureal that "ubotu" post is yours ^
[07:00] <iceman> tryin to remember, not quake, not unreal, another Miltiplayer fps...
[07:00] <kangpeh> anyone else have a problem with breezy
[07:00] <Kira> Good day.
[07:00] <kangpeh> after awhile, gaim hangs the entire system
[07:00] <vureal> yea thanks
[07:00] <Ekibyougami> http://bash.org/?560470 <- lol
[07:00] <Kira> has anybody solved the PPPoE over WiFi problem?
[07:00] <kevin06> nalioth, Are you saying NVU can do this, or that you're not familiar with NVU?
[07:01] <StarKruzr> nalioth: might it be advisable to look through the scripts, see what they do and perform those functions manually?
[07:01] <Xenguy> kangpeh: sounds like a memory leak ?
[07:01] <[Spooky] > iceman: Tactical Ops ?
[07:01] <nalioth> kevin06: quanta, screem are both wysiwyg html editors (css, php, etc)
[07:02] <nalioth> StarKruzr: any script that uses "--force-all" is not safe
[07:02] <intelikey> misfit_toy na, just learn to keep up.
[07:02] <StarKruzr> ok
[07:02] <Agamotto> nalioth:  Much agreement
[07:02] <Xenguy> kevin06: nvu sounds worth a look
[07:02] <misfit_toy> intelikey, nah, I'll just use the forums
[07:03] <nalioth> and those 'easy scripts' in my lookin at them, do not take into account everything that may be encountered
[07:03] <intelikey> where is this script ?    i like doing the kinda things they say "aint safe"
[07:03] <Laz0r> I need some help concerning the switching between ubuntu and windows
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> Laz0r: What sort of help?
[07:04] <Jonlleviathan> Can someone get ubotu to tell me the link of the tutorial to install the nvidia graphics driver ?5.04
[07:04] <thewayofzen> is it normal to get system mail stating stuff about cron.daily
[07:04] <thewayofzen> /usr/share/man/man1/rmiregistry.1.gz
[07:04] <thewayofzen> and dangling symlinks
[07:04] <CarlFK__> Jonlleviathan - search symantic for nvidia
[07:04] <phiqtion> how can i get azureus?
[07:04] <vureal> now when I try to update I get E: Lists directory /var/lib/apt/lists/partial is missing.
[07:04] <kevin06> !nvidia
[07:04] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:05] <cafuego_> thewayofzen: On occasion, yep. just rm -f the symlinks as root.
[07:05] <CarlFK__> Jonlleviathan - there is a package that will take care of most of it, then a command to patch... that s the page.
[07:05] <cafuego_> vureal: sudo mkdir /var/lib/apt/lists/partial
[07:05] <threeseas> solved my wireless problem -- gave up on trying to compile a driver for my usb device, but instead found that I have a card I can use that works out of the bos with Breezy... I'll install it tomorrow.
[07:05] <kangpeh> xenguy: how do i fix the memory leak
[07:05] <kangpeh> it is a standard ubuntu packag e:(
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> Laz0r: I have a dual boot Ubuntu Breezy / Windows XP right now, btw.
[07:05] <thewayofzen> cafuego,  is that going to break anything
[07:05] <vureal> oh okay thanks
[07:05] <JustSteve> Is there anything special someone might know that would preclude me from being able to install GAIM plugins that are not founf in Ubuntu apt-get repositories?
[07:05] <Jonlleviathan> i see i dwonloaded this though NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run
[07:05] <thewayofzen> cafuego, and does it hurt anything to leave them be?
[07:05] <Jonlleviathan> my synaptic search isnt working either
[07:05] <cafuego_> thewayofzen: Nope, just means it'lls top mailing you to remind you to delete those links :-)
[07:05] <jdnewmil> hello all... trying to get my secondary disk (SATA) to mount automatically, having no success... all I have to do after boot is do a "mount -a" and it works... but apparently the fsck and "mount -a" in the boot sequence occur before those drivers are loaded... I have tried adding scsi_mod,libata,sata_promise to my /etc/mkinitrd/modules and rebuilding initrd, but no luck... in fact, I think the kernel may not be loading any modules at 
[07:05] <Xenguy> kangpeh: I have no idea :-)
[07:05] <Severian> phiqtion, Install java first.  Then, just go to the azeurus site and install their installer.  It worked fine for me.
[07:06] <cafuego_> thewayofzen: a dangling symlink is a symlink that points to a non-existant file; deleting it will cause zero issues.
[07:06] <Jonlleviathan> where can i find this package in sunaptic
[07:06] <StarKruzr> dude, I really wanna know what they're playing in this McDonald's on the radio
[07:06] <Laz0r> I have 3 hard drives, 2 are raided with windows installed, and the other has ubuntu installed and im having trouble switching between the os's
[07:06] <kangpeh> :-)
[07:06] <thewayofzen> cafuego,  thank you so much for your help.  i appreciate it muchly
[07:06] <Severian> StarKruzr, with your mind
[07:06] <kangpeh> nobody else has that prob with gaim though
[07:06] <kangpeh> i wonder if there is an alternative gtk aim application
[07:07] <kangpeh> :|
[07:07] <StarKruzr> with my mind?
[07:07] <CarlFK__> Severian - is there a wiki page for insatlling java from main?  (I started and never got it done)
[07:07] <StarKruzr> my mind hasn't helped me figure out what radio station this is yet.
[07:07] <robotgeek> kangpeh: unlike gaim? does that not work?
[07:07] <cafuego_> !java
[07:07] <StarKruzr> kangpeh: how about ncurses?  :0
[07:07] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-55315677ab8f9890825549fa2ecebdde4bc68087 and also see !javadeb
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> Laz0r: What sort of trouble; do you have any other details that might help people help you?
[07:07] <kangpeh> robotgeek:  gaim makes my entire system hang after being open for awhile
[07:07] <StarKruzr> :)
[07:07] <Severian> StarKruzr, they are playing with your mind.  You asked a question about it.
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> Laz0r: I just have entries in GRUB for each of them, and no problems.
[07:07] <robotgeek> kangpeh: that's weird
[07:08] <cafuego_> kangpeh: gaim or beagle?
[07:08] <StarKruzr> ah.  slow on the uptake tonight.  it's late.
[07:08] <phiqtion> Severian: which one?
[07:08] <kangpeh> cafuego:  beagle??
[07:08] <CarlFK__> didnt sun java get kicked out of main?
[07:08] <Jonlleviathan> Carlfk ... can u help me find that file on synaptic... my search isnt working
[07:08] <cafuego_> kangpeh: Are you running beagle index/search?
[07:08] <intelikey> jdnewmil you can add that line "mount -a" in the highest number script in /etc/rc2  just put it at the end  (before any exit command of course)
[07:08] <kangpeh> beagle index/search nope
[07:08] <CarlFK__> Jonlleviathan - tell us about your search not working
[07:08] <StarKruzr> kangpeh: http://ojnk.sourceforge.net/ not GTK, but really cool
[07:08] <nalioth> CarlFK__: sun java got kicked all the way out
[07:09] <Severian> CarlFK, I think there is.  I did not install it the right way.  I just used the binary installer at Sun.  There is a repository somewhere that has a package for Sun, but I don't know it off hand.  It is probably listed on the wiki.  I can take a look and get back to you.
[07:09] <Jonlleviathan> i search and nothing happens
[07:09] <vureal> do you know where I can get more repositories?
[07:09] <Jonlleviathan> its like bugged or something
[07:09] <Severian> CarlFK, or maybe not.  I assme nalioth would know.
[07:09] <Jonlleviathan> nevermind i was clicking on the search at the bottom of synaptic ....
[07:09] <Severian> CarlFK, assme -> assume
[07:10] <Laz0r> is there a way i should be switching between operating systems besides just switching the boot order (which isn't working)
[07:10] <Toma-> if you run "tail /dev/dsp" then run something like xmms, should it spew out ascii? because i get nothing
[07:10] <intelikey> vureal you got multiverse and universe ?
[07:10] <vureal> yes
[07:10] <Jonlleviathan> my search is working CarlFK! Which nvidia drivers do i get i got a gefroce 4200ti ? te green on e?
[07:10] <nalioth> CarlFK__: Severian: there are javas available in the repos, but not sun java
[07:10] <Tokenizer> when you are done editing using "vi" . how do you save and exit?
[07:11] <vureal> is there an experienmental repository where I can download the latest versions for programs?
[07:11] <CarlFK__> nalioth - what is the name of the other javas?
[07:11] <cafuego_> !find bin/unix2dos
[07:11] <CarlFK__> Tokenizer - :wq
[07:11] <intelikey> Tokenizer [esc]   :wq
[07:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'bin/unix2dos' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/unix2dos) in utils/sysutils.
[07:11] <CarlFK__> Tokenizer - :wq = command,write, exit
[07:11] <robotgeek> Tokenizer: :wq , also if interested type vimtutor in a terminal
[07:11] <Xenguy> vureal: ZZ
[07:11] <vureal> ZZ?
[07:12] <Xenguy> Tokenizer: ZZ
[07:12] <intelikey> if in insert mode :qw = :qw (text)   lol
[07:12] <vureal> I could actually add debian repositories right?
[07:12] <Jonlleviathan> CarlFK can u help me install the nivdia drivers ? which one do i get the binary ?
[07:13] <intelikey> vureal sure if you like to reinstall the os.    cause that will break it.
[07:13] <nalioth> CarlFK__: blackdown
[07:13] <vureal> oh okay, that isn't a good idea then.
[07:13] <nalioth> CarlFK__: i forgot IBM java is only available from IBM
[07:13] <phiqtion> Severian: which one?
[07:14] <CarlFK__> nalioth- so blackdown will run Azureus?
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> CarlFK, yes
[07:14] <intelikey> vureal sounds like something i might try..... 8-{
[07:14] <julius> j /#ubuntu-es
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> i am running azureus with blackdown java
[07:14] <Severian> phiqtion, which one what?
[07:14] <phiqtion> Severian: azureus
[07:14] <vureal> just wanna know if there's another way to search for files in repositories instead of just using apt-cache search
[07:15] <wickedpuppy> vureal, use synaptic
[07:15] <robotgeek> vureal: packages.ubuntu.com/<search term>
[07:15] <intelikey> synaptic
[07:15] <intelikey> aptitude
[07:15] <phiqtion> Severian: GTK or MOTIF?
[07:15] <nalioth> CarlFK__: azureus doesnt like it, but yes it will
[07:15] <phiqtion> Severian: or source
[07:16] <Severian> phiqtion, I don't know what you are asking.  I installed the 1.5 version of Sun Jave and the latest azeurus.
[07:16] <Jonlleviathan> Whats restarting X mean ?
[07:16] <Severian> phiqtion, GTK
[07:16] <intelikey> vureal filter your searches.     "apt-cache search mozilla | grep -ie'firefox' "
[07:16] <phiqtion> Severian: GTK is a auto installer? how do i install it?
[07:16] <intelikey> Jonlleviathan [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace] 
[07:17] <anthonyc> hello, if I want to install a .exe (windows app) on ubuntu is this possible?
[07:17] <jbroome> nope
[07:17] <Laz0r> what does it mean when it says "read only" in troubleshooting guide about mounting a NTFS partition
[07:17] <Severian> phiqtion, the gtk libraries are already in Ubuntu.  They are an important part of GNOME.
[07:17] <nalioth> anthonyc: depends on what type of .exe it is
[07:17] <CarlFK__> anthonyc - maybe using wine
[07:17] <Toma-> anthony: only if youve got wine
[07:17] <StarKruzr> anthonyc: there is a program called "WINE" that may allow you to do that.
[07:18] <StarKruzr> heh
[07:18] <intelikey> wine maybe.   but probably not anthonyc
[07:18] <Tokenizer> thanks xenguy
[07:18] <StarKruzr> anthonyc: it gets progressively less likely the more complicated the program is, with certain exceptions
[07:18] <Xenguy> Tokenizer: yw
[07:18] <kevogod> Absolutely, 100% guaranteed to work. Use WINE from the WINE debian repository.
[07:18] <vureal> cool
[07:18] <intelikey> Laz0r means you cant change anything on the ntfs.  but you can read from it.
[07:18] <Tokenizer> we trying to find out why apache gives 403 error by default on anything in www
[07:19] <CarlFK__> anthonyc -  best to find a linux app that does what you need
[07:19] <Severian> phiqtion, I had no dependancies to resolve when I installed azeurus, as long as I had a java runtime already installed.  I am research now to see if any jre besides Sun's should work.
[07:19] <StarKruzr> ok, I need to stop procrastinating
[07:19] <phiqtion> does ubuntu come with a FAQ? or something for begginers other than this help channel?
[07:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell phiqtion about faq
[07:19] <Xenguy> StarKruzr: yer on IRC, that's impossible :-)
[07:19] <Severian> phiqtion, There is a wiki and a nice online forum.
[07:19] <XiCillin> does anyone else have trouble installing themes>?
[07:19] <kevogod> !faq
[07:19] <ubotu> I heard faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[07:19] <StarKruzr> Xenguy: you have struck upon the perfect impossibility of existence as a CS grad student
[07:19] <Agamotto> http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[07:20] <Xenguy> phiqtion: yep, it's got a whole web site
[07:20] <vureal> oh do you guys know off the top of your head, to delete a program in linux, you can just rm the binary and the etc folder right?
[07:20] <StarKruzr> vureal: in general, NO
[07:20] <Xenguy> StarKruzr: aha!
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> Laz0r: Possibly a mounting mask issue.  I had that problem with a VFat mount.  Can you access it rw if you log in as root?
[07:20] <Agamotto> Or just remove it via synaptic... much safer
[07:20] <Xenguy> StarKruzr: :-)
[07:20] <jbroome> the whole /etc/ folder?
[07:20] <kevogod> vureal, Err... that is not a good practice.
[07:20] <StarKruzr> he means the folder that the package put into /'etc/
[07:20] <intelikey> vureal if it is a ub package then use apt-get remove
[07:20] <vureal> oh.... what if you compiled the program, then synaptic will not work
[07:20] <wickedpuppy> vureal, you do apt-get remove or use synaptic
[07:21] <Xenguy> StarKruzr: you got to enter the ZONE, man, you got ta CODE :-)
[07:21] <intelikey> then cd into the compile dir and run "sudo make uninstall "
[07:21] <StarKruzr> sadly, I am a terrible programmer
[07:21] <StarKruzr> another black mark on my existence here
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> Laz0r: Could also just be a version thing.  I don't know if Hoary could even write to NTFS, and I haven't tried it yet in Breezy, but it seems to act like it's better at interacting with them.  Anyone know?
[07:21] <StarKruzr> holy shit
[07:21] <StarKruzr> intelikey: that WORKS?!
[07:22] <Xenguy> StarKruzr: (preferably with the red hot chilli peppers backing you, y'know? :-)
[07:22] <anthonyc> well its a software
[07:22] <anthonyc> that ive purchased
[07:22] <anthonyc> for windows, but theres no linux app for it... ;/
[07:22] <CarlFK__> anthony - what does it do?
[07:22] <vureal> and if you have deleted the ./configure file and the install file just cuz you are stupid enough to think that you don't need the source right after you install your stuff
[07:22] <vureal> what would you do?
[07:22] <intelikey> StarKruzr if you didn't rm the dir or it's contents, yes that works.
[07:23] <CarlFK___> vureal - I would just leave it installed
[07:23] <wickedpuppy> good answer CarlFK
[07:23] <StarKruzr> Linux needs a more sensible way to handle "make install" events
[07:23] <wickedpuppy> i would do the same
[07:23] <intelikey> vureal you could recompile just to uninstall.........
[07:23] <vureal> I see,
[07:23] <Xenguy> StarKruzr: what about 'checkinstall' ?
[07:23] <StarKruzr> i.e. when someone performs a make install, the system logs the changes made and puts them in a rollback file somewhere
[07:24] <anthonyc> CarlFK, www.stardevelop.com
[07:24] <StarKruzr> Xenguy: gah?
[07:24] <vureal> thanks
[07:24] <anthonyc> thats what I ned to install on ubuntu
[07:24] <anthonyc> (the client)
[07:24] <Tokenizer> if i want to re-start apache at the terminal, what do i type?
[07:24] <Xenguy> StarKruzr: press delete if not relevant :-)
[07:24] <intelikey> vureal if the compile was pretty smooth and short.  i would.
[07:24] <iceman> thats the game tribes 2 for linux....
[07:24] <Xenguy> Tokenizer: apachectl start
[07:24] <anthonyc> Tokenizer, locate apachectl and then /path/to/apachectl restart
[07:25] <CarlFK_> anthonyc - looks like VoIP - there are at least 2 in Ubuntu;s synantipic
[07:25] <StarKruzr> anthonyc: never, ever, EVER happen
[07:25] <anthonyc> CarlFK,  thats no VOIP
[07:25] <StarKruzr> Carl it's not just VOIP
[07:25] <vureal> intelikey, what are the essential files necessary in the source to keep so that I would be able to delete the program later?
[07:25] <anthonyc> its a chat..
[07:25] <anthonyc> live chat
[07:25] <Xenguy> Tokenizer: er, apachectl stop ; apachectil start
[07:25] <StarKruzr> anthonyc: you MIGHT, MIGHT get lucky with WINE
[07:25] <anthonyc> for when users hit our website
[07:25] <vureal> cuz sources take up space.
[07:25] <CarlFK_> anthonyc, like what we are doing here?
[07:25] <intelikey> the makefile
[07:25] <iceman> Shoot voip would be sweet in linux ...
[07:25] <anthonyc> *i work for a hosting company and i need this tool*
[07:25] <anthonyc> no
[07:26] <Xenguy> Tokenizer: er, apachectl stop ; apachectl start
[07:26] <wickedpuppy> iceman, skype
[07:26] <anthonyc> someone goes to our site
[07:26] <anthonyc> initiate chats
[07:26] <anthonyc> i have the client (.exe) install and can talk to them through the program
[07:26] <kevogod> Gizmo, man
[07:26] <intelikey> errr plural   keep the subdir makefiles too
[07:26] <anthonyc> look at the site, it has a windows app not linux though
[07:26] <intelikey> some times there are many of them/
[07:26] <vureal> oh okay sweet thanks
[07:26] <StarKruzr> I wonder if there is a make delete source or something that keeps the Makefiles and nothing else
[07:27] <StarKruzr> I suppose that would be relatively trivial to script, though
[07:27] <vik> I'm trying to dist-upgrade, and apt-get tells me "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:27] <kevogod> iceman, http://www.gizmoproject.com/
[07:27] <vik>   update-manager: Depends: python-apt but it is not going to be installed
[07:27] <vik>                   Depends: synaptic but it is not going to be installed
[07:27] <vik> " then stops
[07:27] <StarKruzr> "is this file Makefile?  no?  delete it, else continue"
[07:27] <iceman> wickedpuppy which version of skype for ubuntu
[07:27] <StarKruzr> recurse recurse recurse, done
[07:28] <CarlFK_> anthony - im guessing you are hosed
[07:28] <StarKruzr> anthonyc: it's really not likely, but you can try WINE
[07:28] <purserj> iceman: The current version of Skype in the repository is 1.1
[07:29] <StarKruzr> anthonyc: this program looks very "pretty!Windows," and that says "libraries that are probably not supported in WINE yet"
[07:29] <intelikey> vureal you can after you compile something, do a "make clean"  and  "cd .. ;tar -cjvf uninstall.tar.bz2 <dir-name> "  then you have a tidy uninstaller if you need it.  you just un tar it and make uninstall.
[07:29] <CarlFK_> anthonyc- another idea: some sort of virtual machien that lets you run mswidnows in a linux window
[07:29] <iceman> would i want the debian package for skype or one of the rpm's
[07:29] <adam_> ok, so im wondering just what else i need to do to be able to watch wmv files. For some reason when i type in: "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" it says this:           "Reading package lists... Done
[07:29] <adam_> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:29] <adam_> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:29] <adam_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:29] <adam_> is only available from another source
[07:29] <adam_> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate"
[07:29] <wickedpuppy> adam_, pls dont paste
[07:29] <CarlFK_> iceman - don;t try skype first... try some of the other voips
[07:29] <nalioth> adam_: please dont paste in here
[07:30] <iceman> gizmo ?
[07:30] <adam_> oh i didnt know that was bad. sorry
[07:30] <wickedpuppy> iceman, skype.com
[07:30] <CarlFK_> iceman -  like openwango ...or...
[07:30] <StarKruzr> adam: you can ask for help first, then paste in pm :)
[07:30] <vureal> thanks
[07:30] <anthonyc> is wine hard to install?
[07:30] <vureal> does anyone here use enlightenment?
[07:30] <adam_> my bad
[07:30] <nalioth> intelikey: be clean and neat, recommend !checkinstall
[07:30] <nalioth> heh
[07:30] <vik> adam_: you need to get it from some other repository
[07:30] <purserj> CarlFK_: why not skype?
[07:30] <wickedpuppy> anthony, sudo et install wine
[07:30] <wickedpuppy> anthony, sudo apt-get install wine
[07:30] <intelikey> oh yeah....
[07:30] <anthonyc> once  I install wine
[07:31] <anthonyc> would I have to configure anything?
[07:31] <CarlFK_> purserj - closed source, and they hijack your band width without teliing you
[07:31] <anthonyc> or could I start downloading windows apps?
[07:31] <adam_> i thought that i added the extra repositories, but how can i check for sure?
[07:31] <iceman> wickedpuppy hay have him update the wine, today the new versions cam out...
[07:31] <wickedpuppy> anthony, wine is not complete windows replacement
[07:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adam_ about w32codecs
[07:31] <nalioth> adam_: what extra repos?
[07:31] <intelikey> wickedpuppy is that the full package name ?
[07:31] <wickedpuppy> iceman, new version always take time to get into repo .. and new means likely to have bugs
[07:31] <Bite_Me_Bill> Xenguy, Is there a way to contact you through IM client?
[07:32] <wickedpuppy> oh ... wine ... wait no ... xwine i think
[07:32] <StarKruzr> wow
[07:32] <StarKruzr> checkinstall is nifty
[07:32] <purserj> CarlFK_: apart from the closed source issue, never had any problem with bandwidth theft
[07:32] <iceman> wickedpuppy i will send you the repo links
[07:32] <wickedpuppy> i forgot the full name of the wine ..
[07:32] <adam_> well, i was looking at the unofficial ubuntu guides... thats how i "added the extra repos"
[07:32] <CarlFK_> purserj - how would you know?
[07:32] <Xenguy> Bite_Me_Bill: you should do it on the channel, so that others may benefit, and more 'others' may help you :-)
[07:32] <wickedpuppy> iceman, repo links ? why ?
[07:32] <adam_> but that is for hoary, and i have breezy...
[07:32] <anthonyc> i know it isnt
[07:33] <anthonyc> but once I install wine
[07:33] <anthonyc> how do I know which windows aps i can download?
[07:33] <wickedpuppy> anthony, well ... that you got to ask the wine guys #wine
[07:33] <phiqtion> how can i install azureus? i downloaded the GTK install version
[07:33] <wickedpuppy> or mailing list
[07:33] <iceman> wickedpuppy it will make his attempt to use wine a lot easier
[07:33] <Bite_Me_Bill> Xenguy, I've installed wine again and ran winecfg and trying to run the fh6.exe to install the firehouse program and was wondering if you could make sence of the error.
[07:33] <CarlFK_> anthonyc - you can try any.  none are gaurantteed to work in win or wine
[07:33] <wickedpuppy> phiqtion, azureus is java app ... you know how to run java apps right ?
[07:33] <Xenguy> anthonyc: check out the wine web site, and frankscorner.org
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> anthonyc: I'm a bit confused.  I checked the site, and the minimum system reqs say it's cross platform, but that you need Windows for the Windows application (whatever that is).  What would be in the minumum install, and do you really need this other app with it?
[07:34] <iceman> http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/  on of the repo's to add to synaptic
[07:34] <phiqtion> wickedpuppy: no im new to linux
[07:34] <iceman> http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/
[07:34] <anthonyc> thats what I use
[07:34] <Xenguy> Bite_Me_Bill: /join #flood
[07:34] <wickedpuppy> phiqtion, i said java ... not linux
[07:34] <wickedpuppy> :P
[07:34] <anthonyc> the windows app
[07:34] <phiqtion> wickedpuppy: no puppy, i dont
[07:34] <iceman> second ... those come from wiki
[07:34] <vik> adam_: Hmm... can't seems to find the extra repos suddenly. hold on a sec...
[07:34] <anthonyc> tonyyarusso, theres two things
[07:34] <Bite_Me_Bill> Xenguy, Working on typing out the error box.
[07:35] <adam_> ok
[07:35] <wickedpuppy> phiqtion, not java either ? go to azureus and type ./azureus that should do it
[07:35] <anthonyc> one source you add to the web server (remote)
[07:35] <anthonyc> and the client app
[07:35] <anthonyc> which I need to use
[07:35] <StarKruzr> wickedpuppy: don't be a pedant :p  it's not the same in Linux, in Windows you just run the program and the process of using Java is transparent to you
[07:35] <anthonyc> get it now?
[07:35] <wickedpuppy> StarKruzr, really .. i thought everyone knows how to run java and vb ...
[07:35] <malv> I have an option called "Create a PDF document", but when I try to print it says that printing pdfs is not supported
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> anthonyca: Meaning the cross-platform thing does all the work, but you need the other thing to interact with it.  That's royally annoying.
[07:35] <malv> how can I enable it to print pdfs?
[07:35] <josh__> how do i get steam on linux?
[07:35] <vureal> how do i know what my x.org version is?
[07:35] <wickedpuppy> josh__, cs ?
[07:35] <iceman> wickedpuppy if he will install those links in synaptic, and update, boy i had worked for 2 days trying to get diablo to work, installed that and it just took off ...
[07:35] <phiqtion> wickedpuppy: i created a .sh script for limewire. does this work the same?
[07:35] <StarKruzr> I would imagine there are plenty of people that don't know about "java whatever.jar"
[07:35] <josh__> si
[07:35] <intelikey> wickedpuppy i don't....
[07:36] <Tokenizer> how does one go about installing perl packages on ubuntu?
[07:36] <intelikey> hehhe and don
[07:36] <josh__> u do need steam on linux right?
[07:36] <intelikey> don't want too
[07:36] <wickedpuppy> phiqtion, you know how to run shell scripts ? eh ah go to azureus folder , after you unzipped it... and type ./azureus
[07:36] <Bite_Me_Bill> Xenguy, "Could not initialize installation.  C:\windows\temp\GLC404.tmp file not found"  Any clues on where to look to get this figured out?
[07:37] <Xenguy> josh__: steam?
[07:37] <josh__> ya
[07:37] <z|bandito> hi
[07:37] <wickedpuppy> josh__, hl2 doesn't work with wine ... unless i am mistaken
[07:37] <wickedpuppy> neither with cedega
[07:37] <josh__> :(
[07:37] <z|bandito> are there some instructions online about sharing a folder via smb or nfs?  i've tried with both protocols and I can't get it working... i can see the smb share on the network but it won't accept the password... :\
[07:37] <vureal> does anyone know how to configure for true transparency for x.org?
[07:37] <Xenguy> Bite_Me_Bill: I'm no WINE expert; is there a C:\windows\temp  ?
[07:37] <vik> adam_: I think it was in backports/extras at some point, then it prolly got pulled (being illegal and all). Anyways, have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=414513
[07:37] <Bite_Me_Bill> Xenguy, and yes the Wine install is from winehq 0.9 version
[07:38] <Xenguy> Bite_Me_Bill: this is ubu wine ?
[07:38] <purserj> CarlFK_: I keep an eye on what goes out and what comes in
[07:38] <josh__> i whent to steampowered.com and got steam but its exe and i dont know how to install it
[07:38] <bimberi> z|bandito: you need to set up a samba password - sudo smbpasswd -a <user>
[07:38] <CarlFK_> huh?
[07:38] <adam_> hmmm
[07:38] <z|bandito> cool, i wondered about that.  thanks bimberi
[07:38] <adam_> ill check out that thread
[07:38] <Bite_Me_Bill> Xenguy, I beleive the winecfg said there was and yes used the method from Winehq to install the ubuntu version.
[07:38] <bimberi> z|bandito: yw
[07:38] <wickedpuppy> josh__, you need wine but as i said last i heard wine doesn't support hl2 ...
[07:38] <Xenguy> Bite_Me_Bill: OK, so back to question 1
[07:38] <z|bandito> is smb or nfs generally faster/more efficienter?
[07:39] <CarlFK_> purserj - oh skype... do you stay behind a firewall?
[07:39] <tritium> Bite_Me_Bill, if you installed wine from winehq.com, might as wel get winetools as well.  It makes setting up wine trivial.
[07:39] <josh__> wine?
[07:39] <CarlFK_> nfs client is 2x as fast as smb client
[07:39] <bimberi> z|bandito: more here - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba :)
[07:39] <josh__> the first time lol i thought you said "mine"
[07:39] <josh__> lol
[07:39] <purserj> CarlFK_: No just a nat router
[07:39] <CarlFK_> i was just checking out nfs, smb and clifs speeds a week or so ago
[07:39] <vik> I've got a slight problem trying to apt-get dist-upgrade. Have just pasted into the pastebin
[07:40] <josh__> where do i get wine?
[07:40] <Hobbsee> !wine
[07:40] <josh__> !!!
[07:40] <ubotu> hmm... ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[07:40] <z|bandito> when i tried sharing the folder via nfs, the other machines don't even see it.. :\
[07:40] <Hobbsee> !tell josh__ about wine
[07:40] <CarlFK_> purserj - thats a firewall, and so the other skypers can't get to your box, so you end up having to use some other exposed skyper if you want to talk to another firewalled client
[07:40] <jonlleviathan> wow is there anyway to test to see if my nvidia drivers are installed
[07:40] <josh__> hey thanx man
[07:40] <jonlleviathan> that wiki guide i got linked to really helped!!!
[07:40] <josh__> one more thing :)
[07:41] <CarlFK_> purserj - so you are ether being the hijacker or jackee... to me both suck
[07:41] <josh__> how come your words are red to me?
[07:41] <Bite_Me_Bill> tritium, Winetools isn't showing up in the repo.  After adding what winehq says to add to the repos
[07:41] <tritium> josh__, it's called nick highlighting
[07:41] <CarlFK_> jonlleviathan - there is an xorg.conf setting to show the nf splash screen
[07:41] <StarKruzr> ur team iz red 2 me
[07:41] <jonlleviathan> CarlFK_ wheres that located ?
[07:42] <intelikey> josh__ whos words ?
[07:42] <josh__> did it work?
[07:42] <tritium> Bite_Me_Bill, it was there last I checked
[07:42] <josh__> when ever someone says my name
[07:42] <josh__> lol
[07:42] <CarlFK_> jonlleviathan /etc/X11/x...something...conf
[07:42] <purserj> CarlFK_: As far as I know, Skype has never tried to hide the fact that it is based on Peer to Peer technologies.
[07:42] <intelikey> yep.
[07:42] <jonlleviathan> Nvidia screen did splash before ubuntu worked.... but how do i like check my fps in the termina; ?
[07:42] <josh__> but i doubt you type out josh__ every time
[07:42] <Hobbsee> josh__: tab completion
[07:43] <z|bandito> CarlFK did you mean only the ubuntu nfs client , or in general?  most of my clients will be osx.,.
[07:43] <Hobbsee> ie, so start typing the name, then hit tab, then pick which one you want
[07:43] <josh__> what?
[07:43] <CarlFK_> purserj - most skypers think there connection is only used for there own calls, not someone elses
[07:43] <intelikey> jo[tab] 
[07:43] <phiqtion> wickedpuppy: how can i add azureus to my internet menu?
[07:43] <Bite_Me_Bill> tritium, It shows a winesetupk but that is the only one.  The site shows the tools.
[07:43] <tritium> josh__, just like the shell's tab-completion
[07:43] <budluva> anyone here familiar with e17 themes? i downloaded one and put it in my ~/.enlightenment/themes dir and open the theme manager and it doesn't display, is it the same as metacity themes where you just drag them into the window?
[07:43] <tritium> Bite_Me_Bill, you have the winehq.com repo?
[07:43] <josh__> are my words red yet?
[07:43] <wickedpuppy> phiqtion, smeg
[07:43] <CarlFK_> josh__- say josh__ bla bla'
[07:43] <jonlleviathan> so CarlFK_ what do i do in that dircytory
[07:43] <Bite_Me_Bill> tritium, yes.
[07:44] <intelikey> tritium he's never used tab-completition
[07:44] <tritium> josh__, no, your words would only be red to someone whose nick you use
[07:44] <jonlleviathan> In X11
[07:44] <josh__> josh__ bla bla
[07:44] <josh__> josh__ bla bla'
[07:44] <tritium> josh__, type "trit" and hit the tab key
[07:44] <CarlFK_> jonlleviathan - find the conf file, edit it, find the splash screen setting, change it. save, restart X
[07:44] <josh__> tritium, ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[07:44] <josh__> tritium, sweet
[07:44] <tritium> ;)
[07:45] <wickedpuppy> josh__, terminal has it too ...
[07:45] <jonlleviathan> xorg.conf ?
[07:45] <Tokenizer> what's the command for "make install" on ubunto?
[07:45] <intelikey> josh__ welcome to linux  :)
[07:45] <josh__> sweet
[07:45] <josh__> lol
[07:45] <CarlFK_> jonlleviathan - i think so
[07:45] <jonlleviathan> can u link me to that wiki page that tells me how to edit it ?
[07:45] <jonlleviathan> im not sure...
[07:45] <vik> I'm trying to dist-upgrade, but it tells me synaptic isn't going to be installed, then fails. ideas?
[07:45] <tritium> Tokenizer, installing from source?  (Are you sure you have to do that?)  make install is the same on ubuntu as on any other distro
[07:45] <josh__> tritium, lol i think installing on linux is hard
[07:46] <tritium> josh__, installing Windows can be just as hard
[07:46] <CarlFK_> jonlleviathan - no clue what wiki page you are talking about
[07:46] <josh__> i havent installed anything yet cuz im afraid ill kill my pc
[07:46] <jonlleviathan> so how do i edit that file ?
[07:46] <tritium> jonlleviathan, which do you want to edit?
[07:46] <Hobbsee> josh__: just make sure you have a backup, and then if you do kill your PC, you wont be in trouble
[07:46] <CarlFK_> jonlleviathan - if you dont know, you better practice on a dummy file first
[07:46] <Tokenizer> i typed make install, it says "unrecognized command make" ..... i have to do this for CPAN CGI::Session
[07:46] <bimberi> jonlleviathan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:46] <jonlleviathan> umm im trying to get my nvidia drivers installed ....
[07:46] <josh__> tritium, i mean intalling an application on my pc
[07:47] <StarKruzr> does anyone know if ytalk and the ytalkd are in ubuntu?
[07:47] <tritium> josh__, right, I figured
[07:47] <jonlleviathan> and i wanna make sure ther installed
[07:47] <josh__> tritium, on windows its like next next i agree next browse finish
[07:47] <tritium> StarKruzr, apt-cache search ytalk
[07:47] <Tokenizer> bash: make: command not found
[07:47] <intelikey> !nvidia
[07:47] <tritium> or use synaptic to search
[07:47] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:47] <tritium> or search on packages.ubuntu.com
[07:47] <josh__> you know?
[07:47] <jonlleviathan> i dont know what to put in the file....
[07:47] <ksmurf> Theoretically could you protect a wireless connection with SSH?  Maybe a SSH connection to a wired box and then a ssh back to the portable?  is there an easier way to do the?
[07:47] <ksmurf> *this
[07:47] <tritium> josh__, and in synaptic, it's like click click
[07:47] <intelikey> jonlleviathan ^ ubotu
[07:47] <CarlFK_> Tokenizer - ah!  you need to install gcc, make, etc.... build-esssomething
[07:48] <tritium> build-essential
[07:48] <jbroome> essential
[07:48] <josh__> i wish i had a friend with linux so he could show me how to install stuff
[07:48] <josh__> im such a newb
[07:48] <CarlFK_> yeah.. i need to learn my spelling betters.... ;)
[07:48] <tritium> josh__, we're all friends here
[07:48] <josh__> tritium,  ;)
[07:48] <ksmurf> josh__ that's what the forums are ... your friend
[07:48] <Agamotto> josh_:  At least you are asking the questions...
[07:48] <josh__> <_<
[07:49] <josh__> >_>
[07:49] <StarKruzr> tritium: thanks, I didn't know about packages.ubuntu.com
[07:49] <josh__> meh
[07:49] <tritium> :)
[07:49] <josh__> ;0
[07:49] <josh__> lol
[07:49] <Tokenizer> gcc isn't installed by default?
[07:49] <intelikey> ^_^
[07:49] <josh__> titanium, thanx man
[07:49] <nalioth> Tokenizer: it is not. install 'build-essential'
[07:49] <CarlFK_> Tokenizer - nope.
[07:50] <josh__> tritium,  peace out
[07:50] <CarlFK_> Tokenizer - this is linux for people, not linux for geeks ;)
[07:50] <StarKruzr> Carl: that's HUMANS, not people
[07:50] <HiddenFly> whats the linux equivalent for tracert?
[07:50] <phiqtion> wickedpuppy: what's smeg?
[07:50] <StarKruzr> get it RIGHT!  ;)
[07:50] <bimberi> HiddenFly: traceroute
[07:50] <CarlFK_> HiddenFly - spell it out: route
[07:50] <adam_> does anyone know why my computer completely freezes everytime i transfer a large file from my external hd to the internal hd?
[07:50] <HiddenFly> bimberi: ok thanks
[07:50] <phiqtion> wickedpuppy: it's not in the smeg menu
[07:50] <HiddenFly> bash: traceroute: command not found :)
[07:51] <StarKruzr> adam: what kind of external hd is it?
[07:51] <mikal_> Anyone up for giving me some help getting my shared printer to print?
[07:51] <tritium> josh__, see you
[07:51] <vik> adam_: what size?
[07:51] <pickett_> network tools in system tools
[07:51] <bimberi> HiddenFly: have to install it - package is .............. traceroute :P
[07:51] <CarlFK_> adam_ - what size file?
[07:51] <adam_> it is a 160 gb formated at HFS+
[07:51] <adam_> a 800MB avi file
[07:51] <StarKruzr> firewire/usb?
[07:51] <HiddenFly> bimberi: yea i guessed that lol
[07:51] <adam_> firewire
[07:51] <tritium> CarlFK, my dog is deeply distraught that ubuntu is not for her
[07:51] <Bite_Me_Bill> tritium, Is winetools only available in the tar.gz?
[07:51] <mikal_> I have a HP PSC on my XP box and im trying to print wirelessly from my Ubuntu notebook. I have all the connection info and the printer says "Ready" but nothing ever prints.
[07:51] <HiddenFly> thought they would install basic tools like this by default
[07:51] <vik> adam: and what is the internal HD?
[07:52] <intelikey> they ?
[07:52] <nalioth> HiddenFly: ubuntu is designed for users, not developers
[07:52] <StarKruzr> ubarku: Linux for Canines
[07:52] <tritium> Bite_Me_Bill, last I checked the .deb was available in winehq.com's repository
[07:52] <iceman> Got a strange question, is there a application that can monitor and display what network information is being transmited ?
[07:52] <HiddenFly> nalioth: yea i know :)
[07:52] <adam_> there is a 120 gb and a 160.. if that is enough info
[07:52] <HiddenFly> there seems to be tracepath by default
[07:52] <jonlleviathan> I need help editing the xorg.conf file for nvidia installation
[07:52] <CarlFK_> iceman - etherial
[07:52] <tritium> jonlleviathan, you don't have to edit it by hand.  You can run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:52] <intelikey> anyone that needs gcc should know how to install gcc ......   makes sence to me.
[07:52] <CarlFK_> jonlleviathan - try kedit
[07:53] <vik> adam_: what filesystem - and have you tried copying it to both of the drives?
[07:53] <iceman> CarlFK_ I want to be able to pop on Battle.net, using Diablo II, and see what info they are pulling off my pc ....
[07:53] <jonlleviathan> tritium i alreayd did that
[07:53] <CarlFK_> iceman - etherial
[07:53] <bimberi> iceman: note that it's "ethereal" :)
[07:53] <jonlleviathan> but the tut says to Note: RenderAccel has a bug. Memory leak and crashes. Disable it in xorg.conf in the section "Device".\
[07:54] <iceman> cai i get with apt-get ?
[07:54] <jonlleviathan> thats where im stuck
[07:54] <tritium> jonlleviathan, which editor do you like to use?
[07:54] <tritium> StarKruzr, no, silly
[07:54] <bimberi> iceman: yes (in universe)
[07:54] <StarKruzr> there is untold amounts of software out there which is simply not in any packages
[07:54] <HrdwrBoB> StarKruzr: that's a bunch of garbage
[07:54] <jonlleviathan> i dont know what an editor is ?
[07:54] <jonlleviathan> gedit ?
[07:54] <Tokenizer> CarlFK. lol . linux for geeks........ srry for delay in response.... kinda retarded
[07:54] <HrdwrBoB> StarKruzr: and none of them are needed to 'use' the computer
[07:54] <iceman> bimberi thanks ethereal ... correct name
[07:55] <Hobbsee> jonlleviathan: that is an example of an editor, or text editor, yes
[07:55] <ksmurf> Theoretically could you protect a wireless connection with SSH?  Maybe a SSH connection to a wired box and then a ssh back to the portable?  is there an easier way to do the?
[07:55] <StarKruzr> you have severely restricted freedom without a compiler environment, guys
[07:55] <adam_> well...i guess that is another issue. i dont exactly know where "both" drives are. when i go to system>administration>disks both hard drives show up.. so i guess they are working properlly??
[07:55] <mikal_> Anyone have experience setting up nework printers?
[07:55] <ksmurf> *this
[07:55] <jonlleviathan> ok... yeah im most familiar with GEDIT if im familiar with naything related to linux!
[07:55] <tritium> ksmurf, that does not protect the wireless connection itself
[07:55] <HrdwrBoB> ksmurf: just only use ssh to connect to things over the wireless link
[07:55] <Hobbsee> mikal_: ask your question - someone might be.  How's it connected?
[07:55] <bimberi> jonlleviathan: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:56] <mikal_> I have a HP PSC on my XP box and im trying to print wirelessly from my Ubuntu notebook. I have all the connection info and the printer says "Ready" but nothing ever prints.
[07:56] <iceman> ok, seeing that why cant i get a fps display from glxgears ?
[07:56] <jonlleviathan> hmm how ocme this one is not "read only" like the xorg files i tried to edit ?
[07:56] <mikal_> For some reason, the "Connection" tab doesnt seem to save the Username field, but when I look on my XP box, I see some of the jobs as "Guest"
[07:56] <bimberi> jonlleviathan: did you use sudo before?
[07:56] <vik> adam_: not unless you mounted them
[07:57] <adam_> what i have been trying is draging the file from the external hd to the desktop
[07:57] <CarlFK_> mikal_ - i have seen that missing username too, not sure what is going on, but I was able to print no problem to my win2000 pritner
[07:57] <jonlleviathan> no i opened it manuallly
[07:57] <ksmurf> tritium... I know it does squat from the WAP but I can't get wpa working so that's a no go.  I was thinking of doing remote X the my web stuff from there.
[07:57] <adam_> so this is not done automaticlly?
[07:57] <vik> is there enough space on your internal drive?
[07:57] <ilba7r> is there a feed for breezy updates?
[07:57] <vik> Does it work copying it to another computer?
[07:57] <Swaty> Hi
[07:58] <adam_> yes, most definitly enough space
[07:58] <jonlleviathan> ok well its edited properly
[07:58] <intelikey> StarKruzr ub is not without a compiler.   in fact the best compiler in the world may in deed be in the repositories.   the fact that it is not installed by the default installation is of little consequense.   anyone that can use gcc can surely issue the command that installs gcc.
[07:58] <Agamotto> Time for me to go to bed.
[07:58] <adam_> no, i have not tried to transfer to another comp
[07:58] <bimberi> jonlleviathan: that's why then.  you need to have superuser privs to be able to change that file
[07:58] <jonlleviathan> I inserted that line.. now how do i check if its working
[07:58] <Agamotto> I will chat with you lot later
[07:58] <jonlleviathan> oh thx for tellin me... lol
[07:58] <jonlleviathan> ] noob linux bumberi
[07:58] <adam_> things work fine both ways with small files and large series of small files
[07:58] <iceman> What control does ethereal allow ?
[07:58] <tritium> ksmurf, but how will you secure your network?
[07:58] <CarlFK_> iceman - lots ;)
[07:59] <BROKEN_LADDER>  okay, i understand what standby and power off are.  what is "suspend" on my monitor?
[07:59] <Swaty> I have a problem, I am installing Ubuntu, and i have error " bootstrap.log"
[07:59] <jonlleviathan> s0 how do i check if my nvidia card is installed properly ?
[07:59] <pietro_spina> iceman,  glxgears -printfps
[07:59] <Swaty> I have a problem, I am installing Ubuntu, and i have error " bootstrap.log"  Help me, Spanish?
[07:59] <tritium> StarKruzr, your freedom is in no way restricted.  If you want a compiler, install it.  It's really that simple.
[07:59] <Bite_Me_Bill> Ok figured out how to get the intaller for the FH program to start but the errors are our of the roof..  UGH
[07:59] <odie5533> How do I install a Azureus on Ubuntu
[07:59] <CarlFK_> Swaty- /join #ubuntu-es
[07:59] <StarKruzr> intelikey: that's true, but the fact remains that huge swaths of highly useful software are unusable without a compiler installed
[08:00] <intelikey> not relevent
[08:00] <iceman> 1920 fps ...
[08:00] <StarKruzr> since it would be trivial to install a compiler by default, I don't understand the decision not to include it
[08:00] <phiqtion> where can i get xine from?
[08:00] <CarlFK_> StarKruzr- and huge swaqths of people just need a web browser and a word processor.
[08:00] <tritium> StarKruzr, most users don't need one
[08:00] <iceman> 2500+ fps ... acceptable
[08:00] <jonlleviathan> How can i check if my new nvidia card is working ...
[08:00] <Swaty> I have a problem, I am installing Ubuntu, and i have error " bootstrap.log"  Help me
[08:00] <Hobbsee> !info xine
[08:00] <tritium> jonlleviathan, does gdm start?
[08:00] <jonlleviathan> gdm ?
[08:01] <StarKruzr> I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that
[08:01] <tritium> do you see a graphical login screen?
[08:01] <aftertaf> Swaty:  do a md5 checksum on your d
[08:01] <jonlleviathan> .... lol not sure what you mean by a graphical login screen
[08:01] <bimberi> jonlleviathan: log out, key <ctrl><alt>F1 (gets you a console), log in, then "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart"
[08:01] <aftertaf> Swaty:  on your cd... try burning it slower if the checksumworks out.
[08:01] <bimberi> tritium: jonlleviathan has just modified xorg.conf
[08:01] <pietro_spina> iceman,  now try    glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[08:01] <therocker> swaty jst put out the cd and try using some other installation cd if u have....worked for me
[08:02] <phiqtion> where can i get xine from?
[08:02] <StarKruzr> lol
[08:02] <jonlleviathan> how will i keep that pasted if i log out
[08:02] <StarKruzr> pietro_spina: is that for real?
[08:02] <adam_> vik: any more helpful info? thanks btw
[08:02] <odie5533> Swaty: If burning at a lower speed doesn't help, try using a different type of media, worked for me
[08:02] <pietro_spina> try it
[08:02] <bimberi> jonlleviathan: pen and paper :)
[08:02] <pietro_spina> it works
[08:02] <StarKruzr> that's awesome
[08:02] <intelikey> the distro is not geared toword development nor programing. it is geared toword windows users that want to try a linux release.   that is the reason StarKruzr, like it or not it is ubuntu.
[08:03] <Bite_Me_Bill> tritium, Xenguy, any idea where to start to look on how to get this to be able to install?  http://pastebin.com/406151
[08:03] <jonlleviathan> damnit
[08:03] <malv> any reasons why fonts don't appear when using ps2pdf?
[08:03] <ksmurf> tritium the network is as secure as it is going to get.  I have stirct rules on the 2 Desktops and the laptop.  All have most ports closed.  I have mac filtering enabled on the WAP and only the ip's I am using available.  so they would have to break the key (Not that wep encrpt is worth anything) spoof the mac addy,drop one of the other boxes, get through firestarter to get into the box.  I was thinking that ssh would encryt the traffi
[08:03] <ksmurf> c if i understand it right
[08:03] <malv> is it a bug, or am I missing something?
[08:03] <StarKruzr> intelikey: I don't see how what it's geared toward is relevant to leaving out a method of software installation by default, that's all
[08:03] <jonlleviathan> theres no damn paper
[08:03] <jonlleviathan> any alternative method
[08:04] <StarKruzr> nb: I am not a developer, by any means
[08:04] <Hobbsee> jonlleviathan: back of your hand?
[08:04] <tritium> Bite_Me_Bill, I have no idea what that output you just pasted is.  How about giving me some context?
[08:04] <phiqtion> xine is not in the repositories, where can i get it from?
[08:04] <nalioth> tritium: that was an interesting paste, heh
[08:04] <nalioth> phiqtion: it is. enable universe and multiverse
[08:04] <CarlFK_> StarKruzr- next Q: what should be removed to make room for gcc and friends?
[08:04] <tritium> indeed
[08:04] <bimberi> jonlleviathan: save it in a file in your home directory.  You'll be able to "cat <file>" when you're logged into the console
[08:04] <intelikey> StarKruzr size !
[08:05] <therocker> now ppl can u help me install azureus on my pc
[08:05] <iceman> wow .. ethereal is nice ... thanks for the info
[08:05] <jonlleviathan> ok
[08:05] <therocker> while installing azureus it gives me this error: azureus:
[08:05] <therocker>  Depends: sun-j2sdk1.5  but it is not installable or
[08:05] <therocker>  	java2-runtime  but it is not installable
[08:05] <bimberi> jonlleviathan: also, if X doesn't restart properly, typing "irc" will get you into a text irc client (irssi)
[08:05] <tritium> ksmurf, sounds reasonable, given your constraints
[08:05] <tritium> therocker, please don't paste
[08:05] <jonlleviathan> what do i need the console for
[08:05] <Bite_Me_Bill> tritium, trying to install a program called Firehouse 6 from firehousesoftware.com if this software can run underwine then the township will move away from MS to Ubuntu and the rest of the OSS world.
[08:05] <Hobbsee> !tell therocker about javadeb
[08:05] <iceman> how do you run a .run file
[08:05] <therocker> ok i wont, but tht was a message
[08:05] <intelikey> StarKruzr the word bloat mean anything to you ?
[08:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell therocker about javadeb
[08:06] <tritium> Bite_Me_Bill, sorry, I'm no wine guru
[08:06] <ksmurf> Unless I'm missing an easier wya
[08:06] <mikal_> Ok, so in my Printer setup when I click Test Page" it will say spooling on my XP box and  then instantly the job disappears without printing.
[08:06] <ksmurf> way
[08:06] <therocker> nalioth :got it
[08:06] <therocker> thanks
[08:06] <bimberi> jonlleviathan: to type that gdm restart command
[08:06] <intelikey> iceman if it is executable    ./file.run
[08:07] <CarlFK_> Bite_Me_Bill -  I would recomend getting the fire system running on a Win terminal server box, then using Ubuntu's TS client to connect and run the app
[08:07] <StarKruzr> "room?"
[08:08] <CarlFK_> StarKruzr - space on the install cd
[08:08] <StarKruzr> how big is gcc?
[08:08] <tritium> StarKruzr, it hasn't been something that users have been asking for by default
[08:08] <Danny|> Mplayer requires xmms to be installed? .
[08:08] <Danny|> :|
[08:08] <CarlFK_> Bite_Me_Bill - I have no clue what the licencing is for non MS connections
[08:08] <intelikey> disk space required for default install is also a consideration.
[08:08] <iceman> intelikey ok how to run it as sudo, premission deined
[08:09] <mushtaq> hi is there any floppy boot for ubuntu ?
[08:09] <bimberi> !info gcc
[08:09] <Bite_Me_Bill> CarlFK, thanks for the idea but as of right now this is a two computer township.  LOL  They are looking to grow and thinclients was an idea that was being discussed but wanted to stay single format.
[08:09] <ubotu> gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4:4.0.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[08:09] <aftertaf> CarlFK:  each TS clent connection needs a TS licence
[08:09] <kevogod> CarlFK, I would assume that it does not matter what OS the client is running. Terminal services is only concerned whether or not there is a session.
[08:09] <StarKruzr> sorry, back
[08:09] <StarKruzr> anyway
[08:09] <bimberi> StarKruzr: ^^^^^
[08:09] <StarKruzr> I don't think including gcc would count as bloat when it adds so much more flexibility to the system in terms of what end-users can install
[08:09] <StarKruzr> I don't know how big gcc is
[08:09] <iceman> iceman@Icebox64:~$ ./tribes2-25026-cdrom-x86.run
[08:09] <iceman> bash: ./tribes2-25026-cdrom-x86.run: Permission denied
[08:09] <iceman> iceman@Icebox64:~$
[08:09] <StarKruzr> (when all gzipped up and eensy-weensy)
[08:09] <iceman> why
[08:09] <StarKruzr> let's see
[08:10] <tritium> StarKruzr, again, most users aren't needing or asking for it
[08:10] <phiqtion> nalioth: under what name?
[08:10] <intelikey> iceman "sudo ./file.run "   but if it is not executable you can change the perms or even use ". file.run "
[08:10] <CarlFK_> StarKruzr - the CD is packed.  someting would have to be dropped
[08:10] <StarKruzr> nonono
[08:10] <StarKruzr> that's wrong
[08:10] <StarKruzr> !info build-essential
[08:10] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[08:10] <brownie17> how do i discover which of the "hdc" type thingos is my cdrom1 drive?
[08:10] <nalioth> phiqtion: in a console or synaptic search 'xine'
[08:10] <StarKruzr> o_O
[08:10] <StarKruzr> that can't be right
[08:10] <tritium> That's only a metapackage, StarKruzr
[08:10] <CarlFK_> StarKruzr - that doesnt include the deps
[08:10] <Hobbsee> brownie17: sudo fdisk -l?
[08:11] <intelikey> brownie17 "sudo fdisk -l "
[08:11] <tritium> you'd have to check the size of the dependencies
[08:11] <StarKruzr> guess I can't get it to drill down the dependencies
[08:11] <StarKruzr> well, anyway
[08:11] <phiqtion> nalioth, nothing. why is this? universe and multiverse are in the list
[08:11] <bimberi> iirc, all build-essential dependencies are on the CD, they're just not installed by default
[08:11] <tito_> is there any software for my wireless card in my laptop...so that i can scan for a network?
[08:11] <brownie17> Hobbsee, intelikey, that tells me hard drives not cdrom drives
[08:11] <tritium> right, bimberi
[08:11] <budluva> anyone here using e17 right now?
[08:11] <StarKruzr> o_O
[08:11] <Hobbsee> brownie17: try mount
[08:12] <StarKruzr> I would say that supports what I'm saying even more
[08:12] <CarlFK_> Bite_Me_Bill - any idea what database engine fire thing uses?
[08:12] <budluva> or uses e17 at all
[08:12] <nalioth> phiqtion: are you sure? i get several xine pkgs when i search my apt-cache
[08:12] <StarKruzr> no cost to put it on the cd because it's already there
[08:12] <budluva> im looking for a better file manager than the one that comes with e17
[08:12] <tritium> StarKruzr, but no need for a default install
[08:12] <phiqtion> nalioth: can you please tell me the correct steps to enable multiverse and universe? maybe im doing something wrong?
[08:12] <brownie17> Hobbsee, that tells me info about it, but i am enabling dma and i want to know what "hda" type thing it is called. like hdc or hdb or what
[08:13] <Bite_Me_Bill> CarlFK, Foxpro
[08:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell phiqtion about repos
[08:13] <tritium> Okay, we've debated build-essential long enough.  Please continue to discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic all you want
[08:13] <tito_> is there any software for my wireless card in my laptop...so that i can scan for a network?
[08:13] <Bite_Me_Bill> CarlFK, funny thing is I'm seeing it installed in proper directory.
[08:13] <CarlFK_> Bite_Me_Bill - any idea what database engine fire thing uses?
[08:13] <intelikey> brownie17 ls -l /dev/cdrom
[08:13] <CarlFK_> er
[08:13] <CarlFK_> damm, hit Up before enter
[08:13] <StarKruzr> although
[08:14] <StarKruzr> I should probably be in there anyway
[08:14] <brownie17> intelikey, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-10-26 16:03 /dev/cdrom -> hdc
[08:14] <brownie17>        but i have a dvd drive and a cdrom drive, which is which?
[08:14] <CarlFK_> Bite_Me_Bill - wine.  vfp is/was #1 on wines "make this work' list
[08:14] <intelikey> brownie17 eject /dev/hdc   and see which opens
[08:15] <Bite_Me_Bill> CarlFK, Ok.  I'm still playing with it.  See what I can figure out whether I understand what it's doing or not.  LOL
[08:15] <CarlFK_> Bite_Me_Bill - I have gotten a VFP app to run, but ran into problems getting the mssql driver installed, and gave up cuz I didnt; reallyt need it to work
[08:15] <hns> tito: yes there is. however cannot remember. search in synaptic and google
[08:16] <intelikey> brownie17 they are probably already set up in fstab......  cat /etc/fstab      duh  why were we working on the wrong end of the thing    ;/
[08:16] <CarlFK_> Bite_Me_Bill -  start here and follow the links: http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~WineIsNotAnEmulator~SoftwareEng
[08:17] <intelikey> brownie17
[08:17] <intelikey> brownie17  !
[08:17] <phiqtion> nalioth: i did the steps, still nothing from xine
[08:17] <brownie17> intelikey, does the guide ubotu gave me for dma when  i asked !dma include breezy, because it looks like there is a different method for breezy
[08:17] <Bite_Me_Bill> CarlFK, Ok Thanks.
[08:17] <brownie17> intelikey, i worked out which one was which
[08:17] <nalioth> phiqtion: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[08:18] <mikal_> If anyone is interested my printing problem was on my XP box. I didnt know I needed spooling turned on.
[08:18] <intelikey> brownie17 i don't know about the guide.   i've never seen it.
[08:18] <CarlFK_> intelikey - i hear the guide is pretty out of date
[08:18] <StarKruzr> ubotu, guide?
[08:18] <ubotu> StarKruzr: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:19] <StarKruzr> guess not
[08:19] <brownie17> CarlFK, ok
[08:20] <vik> apt-get is preventing me upgrading to breezy - Have pasted info into paste.ubuntulinux.nl ideas anyone?
[08:20] <StarKruzr> that's awesome
[08:20] <StarKruzr> dpkg and ubotu talk to each other?  :)
[08:20] <frank> what?
[08:20] <frank> !info info
[08:20] <ubotu> info: (Standalone GNU Info documentation browser), section doc, is standard. Version: 4.7-2.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 173 kB, Installed size: 336 kB
[08:20] <Severian> vik, we need the whole url
[08:20] <frank> I guess so...
[08:20] <CarlFK_> im off
[08:20] <xris> is there an easy way to install ubuntu without formatting the disk?  I see no option like "use current partition table"...  I have an lvm with / formatted as XFS and an fc4 installation on it (moved out of the way).  Can't just reformat because I need the data.
[08:21] <frank> is there any way to block access to the network for a specific program? for example allow one browser but not another?
[08:21] <CarlFK_> good night all, or good day to my canadian friends, eh
[08:21] <therocker> odie u still around??
[08:21] <mustard5> xris, you using default or expert install?
[08:21] <vik> Severian: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3637 (sorry, thought it would be obvious)
[08:21] <intelikey> hmmmm my kernel enables dma by default, so i've never messed with that....
[08:21] <xris> mustard5: tried both..  they both get to the "partitioning" stage and won't let me go around it.
[08:21] <bob2> xris: uh, where do you want ubuntu to go then?
[08:22] <mustard5> xris, expert install should give you the option to not use certain partitions
[08:22] <xris> bob2: I want it to go to my existing / partition.
[08:22] <xris> right now, / only contains /old which has all of my old files on it.
[08:22] <xris> mustard5: I want to USE the partitions.  just don't want to format them.
[08:22] <bob2> xris: tell it to mount it as /
[08:22] <xris> bob2: there's no "mount" option.  only "repartition"
[08:22] <iceman> ok, where to get codex's for movies ..
[08:22] <xris> it won't let me go beyond that without changing the partition table
[08:23] <guest702> Hi, everyone.
[08:23] <bimberi> vik: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list too
[08:23] <intelikey> xris expert mode ?
[08:23] <bob2> xris: hit enter on it
[08:23] <bob2> xris: I'm really sure there's an option for 'mount it'
[08:23] <Mabus> I'm having troubles installing ubuntu
[08:23] <bob2> Mabus: you need to be way less vague
[08:24] <Mabus> It keeps freezing on the "starting hotplug subsystem" part.
[08:24] <intelikey> bob2 you'll have him formating it......
[08:24] <xris> bob2: may be after that stage.  It's my work box, so I can't do anything about it now (since I'm at home)...   would think there would be something there to just use the existing info, though
[08:24] <iceman> bob2 thanks for the assist on getting wine up, did the new release today, and everything installed great ... thanks for all your help
[08:24] <pef> hello
[08:24] <bob2> xris: dude
[08:24] <bob2> xris: hit enter in partman on the partition, then it lets you do all sorts of things to it
[08:25] <xris> bob2: yes.  but when you do those things, it still sends you back to the "write partition table" thing when you're done.
[08:25] <iceman> now... the decodes for MPEG;s and moves .. where can i get them
[08:25] <intelikey> xris  expert install
[08:25] <vik> bimberi: I've appended it
[08:25] <frank> iceman: you installed wine released today? with the wine repo?
[08:25] <brownie17> !dma
[08:25] <xris> but maybe I'll see something when I poke around tomorrow morning when I'm less tired from a day of work.
[08:25] <bob2> Mabus: read the help screens before the installer starts and then use various combinations of "noapic", "acpi=off" and "nolapic"
[08:25] <bob2> xris: which is fine
[08:25] <xris> thought someone here might have a quick answer.
[08:25] <bob2> that is the quick answer
[08:25] <Mabus> Noob it down for me, bob2. This is my first linux installation.
[08:25] <iceman> frank installed via synaptic ... added link to source forge to get wine 9 ... released today
[08:25] <bob2> xris: then read what it says it wants to do
[08:26] <brownie17> sudo hdparm /dev/hdc
[08:26] <bob2> xris: note that it is not changing the table at all, then continue
[08:26] <frank> iceman: ok
[08:26] <xris> bob2: I do that.  nothing happens.  just refreshes the same screen
[08:26] <xris> but like I said, maybe I missed something
[08:26] <ilba7r> is there an rss feed for breezy updates and general ubuntu news?
[08:26] <iceman> where and i get the codex's for movies ?
[08:26] <bob2> Mabus: you'll need to boot and have a look then
[08:26] <bimberi> vik: those non-ubuntu repos are the problem
[08:26] <bob2> ilba7r: yes, read the website
[08:26] <mustard5> xris, sometimes the bottom of the menu is off the bottom of th screen
[08:26] <bob2> ilba7r: and fridge.ubuntu.com
[08:26] <vik> bimberi: I'll give that a try.
[08:27] <mustard5> xris, and you can't see the options till you scroll down
[08:27] <xris> mustard5: no, I checked
[08:27] <Mabus> bob2: It doesn't go to any help screens. This is the part after the boot from the CD rom, where it's installing the files from the HD or whatever.
[08:27] <Severian> mustard5, can you adjust your monitor?
[08:27] <ilba7r> thanx bob2
[08:27] <mustard5> xris, I can only tell you that I have done it many times :)
[08:27] <bob2> Mabus: no
[08:27] <bob2> Mabus: reboot the installer, and read the help screens
[08:27] <mustard5> Severian, I'm ok thanks :)
[08:27] <bimberi> vik: while you're at it, add multiverse to your breezy-security line
[08:27] <Mabus> bob2: brings me right to this loading screen, goes through all of the things as normal, and then freezes at starting hotplug subsystem
[08:28] <Mabus> bob2: as in, reboot from CD?
[08:28] <vik> bimberi - good point - hadn't noticed that
[08:28] <bimberi> vik: :)
[08:28] <StarKruzr> do not adjust your monitor
[08:28] <xris> anyway, thanks for the info.  hopefully I'll find it tomorrow, or I'll be stuck with fedora for another few days.
[08:28] <StarKruzr> we control the horizontal.  we control the vertical.
[08:28] <mustard5> xris, good luck :)
[08:28] <intelikey> yeah "they say" that you cant set the root passwd durring the install of ub.   "they say" you cant install lilo durring the install.   but "what do they know."      :)
[08:29] <StarKruzr> heh
[08:29] <iceman> Anyone know a good movie player for ubuntu
[08:29] <therocker> why am i gettin such lame speeds d/lin java from giannaros
[08:29] <StarKruzr> why would you want to use lilo rather than grub, intelikey
[08:29] <iceman> i lack the codex pack's
[08:29] <therocker> gettign paltry 2.5kbps
[08:29] <Mabus> bob2: as in, reboot from CD?
[08:29] <Severian> iceman, totem does nicely for me.
[08:29] <brownie17> can someone help me, why is there no damn sound when playing a DVD in TOTEM?
[08:29] <intelikey> StarKruzr why would you want to use brub rather than lilo ?
[08:30] <therocker> from where can i download mrock??
[08:30] <vik> iceman: I like mplayer personally
[08:30] <iceman> Severian how do you update the codex package
[08:30] <brownie17> intelikey, grub is better
[08:30] <Severian> iceman, have you visited the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki?
[08:30] <intelikey> lilo is better
[08:30] <frank> iceman: others you might want to try: gxine, vlc
[08:30] <bob2> brownie17: pkill esd, try again
[08:30] <StarKruzr> grub seems to me to be prettier when it comes to managing multiboots
[08:30] <bob2> intelikey: please don't make silly subjective statements like that
[08:30] <StarKruzr> produces that nice little timeout menu for you at startup
[08:30] <Severian> ubotu, tell iceman about RestrictedFormats
[08:30] <bob2> iceman: /msg ubotu mplayer
[08:30] <intelikey> bob2 ?
[08:30] <vik> bimberi: d'oh - dist-upgrade still bums out with the same error
[08:30] <therocker> from where can i download mrock?? can somebody comment
[08:31] <bimberi> vik: did you sudo apt-get update ?
[08:31] <vik> bimberi: yep
[08:31] <bob2> therocker: what does google say?
[08:31] <bob2> therocker: or, yo ucould just tell us what you hope to use "mrock" for
[08:31] <brownie17> bob2, didn't work. just upgraded to breezy
[08:31] <brownie17> bob2,  used to work fine
[08:31] <bob2> brownie17: does mplayer work?
[08:31] <brownie17> bob2,  how do i run a dvd throuhgh mplayer?
[08:32] <brownie17> bob2,  i thought it was command line
[08:32] <bob2> mplayer -dvd-device /dev/hdc dvd://1
[08:32] <bimberi> vik: um, pastebin the sources.list again
[08:32] <bob2> yes, of course it is.
[08:32] <Mabus> so bob, reboot from the cd you mean, rather than from HD?
[08:33] <brownie17> bob2, alsa-uninit: pcm closed
[08:33] <Vw790> hey all
[08:34] <all> hey
[08:34] <Vw790> hey i been trying for days to get java to work with this and still no lucky any one with anything would be greatly appreciated
[08:35] <vik> bimberi: done. http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3641
[08:35] <dane> hi
[08:35] <Mabus> when installing from CD, what's the difference between choosing "erase entire disk...." and 'erase entire disk and use LVM...'
[08:35] <dane> good pm
[08:36] <deeler> Mabus: logical volume management
[08:36] <HrdwrBoB> Mabus: one uses LVM
[08:36] <brownie17> bob2, sound works for wrong button clicks and stuff and the multimedia systems selcetor test button works fine with alsa and esd
[08:36] <Mabus> This means, to a linux noob?
[08:36] <Vw790> ty Mabus
[08:36] <deeler> Mabus, google lvm linux, for a basic description
[08:36] <wickedpuppy> !lvm
[08:36] <ubotu> somebody said lvm was (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[08:36] <mustard5> Mabus, I logical volume manager allows you to treat a number of partitions as one group
[08:36] <bob2> brownie17: mplayer -vo xv -ao esd -dvd-device /dev/hdc dvd://1
[08:37] <Mabus> okay so, inessential
[08:37] <mustard5> yep
[08:37] <mustard5> dont need it really
[08:37] <bimberi> vik: hm, try changing "fftp://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu/" to "http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" (like the deb-src line below it)
[08:37] <StarKruzr> Mabus: It means you need to get the magic mini-penguins to dance their voodoo dance on your hard drive.  Simple, really.
[08:37] <Mabus> Oh okay, makes sense StarKruzr
[08:37] <StarKruzr> hold on.  have to feed mine.
[08:38] <Mabus> Wait a minute, I'm not stupid. Everybody knows magic mini-penguins are extinct.
[08:38] <mustard5> :D
[08:38] <Vw790> lol
[08:38] <Vw790> well i need one of them penquins :(
[08:38] <brownie17> bob2, Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.] 
[08:38] <Vw790> share the wealth Star
[08:38] <Mabus> I just plain need to get linux installed. :(
[08:39] <Severian> Any Zope3 Ubuntu users here.  The package in Breezy is not working.
[08:39] <Vw790> i found Ubuntu easy to install
[08:39] <Mabus> Well for me, Vw790
[08:39] <Vw790> :P
[08:39] <Mabus> It keeps freezing at one part of the installing from HD part.
[08:39] <Vw790> hey im weak ;)
[08:39] <Vw790> damn
[08:40] <Vw790> last time i had that happen i had a bad rom
[08:40] <vik> bimberi: nope - same again
[08:40] <Mabus> The computer was running Windows just fine, Vw790.
[08:40] <Vw790> no cd rom
[08:40] <Mabus> Oh.
[08:40] <Vw790> i was trying like hell to get windows to reinstall from disk
[08:40] <mustard5> Mabus stalling at the hotplug part?
[08:40] <bob2> brownie17: -vo x11 then
[08:40] <Mabus> Well I downloaded the iso from one of the mirrors listed at the ubuntu main page.
[08:40] <Mabus> Yes mustard.
[08:40] <Vw790> and the rom juz quit every time
[08:40] <StarKruzr> hey, I don't suppose anyone has some spare PC100 DIMMs they want to get rid of, do they?
[08:41] <mustard5> Mabus ah ok,, I thought I saw that earlier
[08:41] <Mabus> Someone told me that it was supposed to take a while, and only to worry if it took longer than 15 minutes
[08:41] <bimberi> vik: you are editing /etc/apt/sources.list (sorry, i'm starting to struggle here :) )
[08:41] <StarKruzr> I'll trade you some magic mini penguin eggs.
[08:41] <mustard5> Mabus you got many devices plugged into it?
[08:41] <Mabus> Didn't budge after 30 minutes.
[08:41] <Mabus> Um, define devices?
[08:41] <Mabus> Video card, audio card
[08:41] <vik> bimberi: yep, and apt-get updating
[08:41] <Vw790> Mabus i got 5 x86 disks to send out
[08:41] <Mabus> wireless mouse and keyboard
[08:41] <brownie17> bob2, nope, i give up
[08:41] <theves> ubuntu
[08:42] <theves> any good
[08:42] <mustard5> Mabus, hmm mk
[08:42] <Mabus> monitor...
[08:42] <Mabus> that's it
[08:42] <bob2> mabus needs to try noapic/acpi=off/nolapic
[08:42] <theves> i use t knipxx and mandrake
[08:42] <bob2> theves: no, use Fedora
[08:42] <theves> whys that
[08:42] <Mabus> yes but I asked you to noob it down for me bob2, I don't know what you're talking about
[08:42] <brownie17> bob2, how do i add dma to the hdparm in breezy?
[08:42] <Mabus> you're talking to a fresh windows convert, here.
[08:42] <Vw790> theves knipxx any good?
[08:42] <theves> e
[08:42] <theves> knoppix
[08:42] <theves> i like alkot
[08:42] <Vw790> right
[08:42] <bob2> brownie17: hdparm is a program, not something you add things to
[08:42] <Severian> Mabus, can you describe your computer?
[08:42] <bob2> brownie17: -c3
[08:42] <theves> std i use
[08:42] <theves> most
[08:43] <theves> honresly
[08:43] <Vw790> you got an installable version of knoppix?
[08:43] <theves> live
[08:43] <theves> cd
[08:43] <theves> i do
[08:43] <bob2> Mabus: yes, I know, I'm hopeing someone else will have the patience to explain it to you
[08:43] <Vw790> no i want installable
[08:43] <Mabus> ASUS mobo, p4 processor, one 180gb hard drive, one dvd burner
[08:43] <bob2> theves: Vw790 #knipxx
[08:43] <mustard5> Mabus I'm up for helping you :)
[08:43] <brownie17> !dma
[08:43] <yi> how do i find out which file belongs to what package with apt?
[08:43] <bimberi> vik: pastebin the output from "apt-cache policy synaptic"
[08:43] <bob2> yi: dpkg -S filename
[08:43] <mustard5> Mabus, can you join #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[08:43] <mustard5> its quieter
[08:44] <Vw790> bob2 knipxx? is that installable?
[08:44] <brownie17> bob2, let me re-iterate  the sudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf
[08:44] <bob2> Vw790: I'm politely mocking you and theves in the hope you will either talk about ubuntu, or go away
[08:44] <Vw790> i been trying bob
[08:45] <Vw790> but seeing how im invisable i figured why not talk bout something else till someone notices me
[08:45] <vik> bimberi: done; url is http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3643 I've also put up what would happen if I were to 'apt-get install synaptic python-apt' at http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3642
[08:45] <brownie17> bob2, do you know how to add dma to startup in breezy?
[08:45] <bob2> Vw790: no, being annoying will get you removed from the channel, not noticed
[08:46] <Vw790> oh im sorry bob i thought this was a help channel
[08:46] <bob2> the real solution is to get non-broken hardware, so the kernel does it for you
[08:46] <Vw790> and realizing that most of the HELPERS are rather busy i desided to wait my turn
[08:46] <bob2> otherwise, read that file
[08:46] <brownie17> bob2, was that dir4ected at me?
[08:46] <Vw790> im sorry i didnt realize you were god
[08:46] <bob2> brownie17: read that file already
[08:46] <bob2> Vw790: oh, stop being such a gimp
[08:47] <Vw790> lmfao
[08:47] <Vw790> gimp
[08:47] <bob2> brownie17: the bottom shows you exactly how to do it
[08:47] <aftertaf> Vw790:  what is your java prblem?
[08:47] <StarKruzr> he can't tell you, aftertaf
[08:47] <StarKruzr> he's banned now.
[08:47] <aftertaf> hehe too late
[08:48] <bimberi> vik: are you running hoary or breezy (lsb_release -a will confirm)?
[08:48] <intelikey> bob2 forget to take your meds ?
[08:48] <bob2> intelikey: your wit continues to astound me
[08:49] <intelikey> just asking......
[08:49] <StarKruzr> what was vw790's problem?
[08:49] <StarKruzr> i.e. what was he asking about?
[08:49] <vik> bimberi: hoary
[08:50] <bimberi> vik: aha, then you don't need breezy repositories - unless you want to upgrade
[08:50] <DjKritical> can someone go to http://test.drumandbass.co.nz and tell me if it loads?...
[08:50] <vik> bimberi: well, that was the whole idea...
[08:50] <bob2> DjKritical: yes
[08:50] <StarKruzr> DjKritical: works for me too.
[08:50] <DjKritical> wtf?! it does?...
[08:50] <intelikey> DjKritical yep
[08:50] <DjKritical> it just stopped working for me ;O
[08:51] <DjKritical> thanks guys
[08:51] <DjKritical> I was about to do a shutdown -r ;O
[08:51] <Gman> hi all
[08:51] <StarKruzr> DjKritical: out of curiosity, what are you using for mp3 streaming?
[08:51] <Gman> could someone here help me out with a problem?
[08:52] <aftertaf> StarKruzr:  a java pb i think.
[08:52] <intelikey> gman not until you describe it in detail.
[08:52] <vik> Gman: hit the reset button
[08:52] <bimberi> vik: ok, i missed that bit :)
[08:52] <vik> bimberi: is dist-upgrade used for anything but upgrading the distro?
[08:52] <Gman> I've installed quake2
[08:53] <StarKruzr> Gman: your best bet when you have a problem is to describe exactly what the problem is in detail.  not only does this help someone answer you right away, but you stand out because your question is so long ;)
[08:53] <Gman> everything works great except that sound is really choppy
[08:53] <Gman> i've tried a killall esd
[08:53] <Gman> but that does not help
[08:53] <bimberi> vik: it's also good for keeping up to date
[08:54] <DjKritical> StarKruzr, no mp3 streaming at the moment, only mp3 downloading
[08:54] <bimberi> vik: how about "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[08:54] <vik> bimberi: how is that different to apt-get upgrade? That's what I've been using for the past 5-odd years
[08:55] <bimberi> vik: upgrade won't bring in new dependencies
[08:56] <vik> bimberi: but new dependencies shouldn't occur unless installing something new, no?
[08:56] <vik> bimberi: apt-get -f install does nothing. Says 1013 packages not upgraded.
[08:57] <baccardi> is there a way to install ubuntu with more control over what gets installed? like if i dont want some of the things that are installed even with the "server" install option
[08:57] <bimberi> vik: not always, a packages dependencies might change
[08:57] <bob2> baccardi: remove them then
[08:57] <bob2> baccardi: or use the expert install
[08:58] <baccardi> can i remove stuff like inet superserver or exim MTA
[08:58] <vik> bimberi: I suppose; I guess I'm still living in debian-stable land where things don't change between releases except for security updates.
[08:58] <bob2> you can remove whatever you want
[08:58] <bob2> aside from exim
[08:58] <bob2> since ubuntu doesn't install that
[08:59] <intelikey> baccardi server-expert   but i don't think it gives any more control over packages.   you can only uninstall a few that are installed that way without trashing the system.
[08:59] <bimberi> vik: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall update-manager"
[08:59] <StarKruzr> does ubuntu install sendmail?
[08:59] <baccardi> hmm ok
[08:59] <bob2> StarKruzr: no
[08:59] <bimberi> StarKruzr: no
[08:59] <StarKruzr> fair enough.
[08:59] <vik> bimberi: should I keep sources.list pointing to breezy, or put it back to hoary?
[08:59] <bimberi> vik: oh yes, back to hoary (and update)
[09:00] <Madpilot> StarKruzr: sendmail is in the repos, though
[09:00] <baccardi> bob2, would you use synaptic package manager to remove stuff or something else?
[09:00] <StarKruzr> so is exim, no?
[09:00] <StarKruzr> !info exim
[09:00] <ubotu> exim: (An MTA (Mail Transport Agent)), section universe/mail, is extra. Version: 3.36-17ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 758 kB, Installed size: 1428 kB
[09:00] <bob2> StarKruzr: no, postfix is the default
[09:00] <bob2> exim is exim3, which is dead
[09:00] <StarKruzr> hrm
[09:00] <bob2> baccardi: if the server install has too much for you, you won't have synaptic
[09:00] <StarKruzr> "dead" meaning what?  "has no installation candidate?"
[09:00] <intelikey> baccardi 'usdo apt-get remove <package> '   it won't let you break things, i don't think.
[09:01] <bob2> meaning "no one has developed it in years"
[09:01] <StarKruzr> hah
[09:01] <StarKruzr> ok
[09:01] <bob2> baccardi: use aptitude
[09:01] <aftertaf> baccardi:  if minimal.. use apt.
[09:01] <baccardi> intelikey, ahh thanks
[09:01] <xiaogil> Totem could not play 'mms://vipmms.canalplus.fr/canalplus/grandjournal_050908_c.wmv'. What can i do ?
[09:01] <z|bandito> what kind of transfer speeds should be possible using SMB over gigE?
[09:01] <aftertaf> xiaogil:  do you have w32codecs installed?
[09:01] <StarKruzr> night people
[09:01] <aftertaf> !tell xiaogil about w32codecs
[09:01] <xiaogil> aftertaf: yes
[09:01] <aftertaf> night StarKruzr :)
[09:01] <vik> 'night
[09:01] <aftertaf> xiaogil:  try sth else, not totem...
[09:02] <intelikey> bob2 if he did a server install like he said, synaptic is no issue. there is no xserver installed.
[09:02] <traveller> i've followed the instructions for restricted formats in the wiki but i still can't play one of my DVDs, is there anything else anyone can suggest?
[09:02] <xiaogil> aftertaf: what else ?
[09:02] <baccardi> right i'd use apt
[09:02] <bimberi> ubotu tell traveller about dvd
[09:02] <Muiske> Is there anyone else who had troubles with NVidia drivers in Breezy?
[09:02] <nalioth> xiaogil: if you install mimms or mmsclient, you may be able to d/l that media and play it locally
[09:02] <aftertaf> xiaogil:  mplayer, xine, run them from command line, so you see any errors.
[09:02] <vik> bimberi: perhaps I should dist-upgrade on hoary first...
[09:02] <baccardi> so how do i see a list of everything thats installed with the minimal "server" option
[09:02] <bjv> how do i configure window/titlebar colors in gnome?
[09:03] <aftertaf> baccardi:  you can istall with it as the option, then tpe dpkg -l
[09:03] <bimberi> vik: yes, i think you need to get your system into a consistent state before upgrading
[09:03] <Muiske> I've disabled the nvidia drivers, but I want to play games that use OpenGL. What should I use?
[09:03] <traveller> bimberi: i followed that exactly, still won't read, it'd read until the menu, and when i wanted to play the movie it just stopped and asked whether i was trying to play an encrypted dvd without libdvdcss2
[09:03] <aftertaf> Muiske:  Nvidia drivers.....
[09:03] <intelikey> baccardi ummm some switch on dpkg   man dpkg
[09:04] <aftertaf> traveller:  run the libdvdcss2 script then.....
[09:04] <traveller> aftertaf: i don't think i catch you
[09:04] <baccardi> cool thanks
[09:04] <traveller> i've already got libdvdcss2 install, i've even done regionset, no good
[09:04] <bimberi> traveller: sorry, beyond me now :)
[09:04] <aftertaf> traveller:  there is a script to dopwnload the encryption library. It is restriced and cant be supplied with ubuntu.....
[09:04] <aftertaf> traveller:  oh ok...
[09:04] <bimberi> vik: also, check here -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:05] <traveller> looks like i'm out of luck, thanks anyway bimberi, aftertaf
[09:05] <svizzero> anyone knows how to reconfig grub mbr after windows messed it up?
[09:05] <vik> bimberi: dist-upgrade doesn't say anything about update-manager or anything apt-related
[09:05] <bimberi> vik: and you can probably switch back to the iinet repos (to save your bandwitch allocation) :)
[09:05] <ompaul> !tell svizzero about grub
[09:05] <bob2> svizzero: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:06] <ompaul> svizzero, read what the bot sent you
[09:06] <bimberi> vik: so it worked?
[09:06] <vik> bimberi: it's downloading.
[09:06] <intelikey> svizzero see the web page ^
[09:06] <Gman> How do i stop choppy sounds in quake2?
[09:06] <Gman> evrything else works perfectly
[09:07] <ChinaForge> quit
[09:07] <svizzero> ok thx :)
[09:07] <bimberi> vik: k, unfortunately i've gtg, good luck :)
[09:07] <vik> bimberi: thanks heaps for the help - will keep trying :)
[09:07] <svizzero> and do you know how to partition a disk for windows xp from linux with cfdisk?
[09:09] <vik> Gman: does sound work OK outside quake?
[09:09] <intelikey> svizzero not for ntfs.... i don't.   for fat32 it's EZ
[09:09] <bob2> svizzero: to actually make partitions? just make them of some windows-sounding type.
[09:09] <bob2> svizzero: to put filesystems on them, use mkfs.
[09:10] <svizzero> bob2, I tried but the windows installer don't see the partition I created
[09:10] <intelikey> svizzero  select it and  type   then choose the type of partition
[09:10] <bob2> then set them to have the right partition type
[09:11] <bob2> (!= filesystem type)
[09:11] <svizzero> I tried with fat32
[09:11] <svizzero> and ntfs
[09:11] <svizzero> but nothing to do :(
[09:12] <Gman> sound works perfectly outside of quake
[09:12] <Gman> no problems
[09:12] <Gman> sound DOES work but it is mute for a few seconds and really laggy
[09:12] <Gman> inside quake2
[09:12] <vik> Gman: what's your CPU/Memory?
[09:13] <Gman> 2.8 GHz P4 / 512 MB Ram
[09:13] <Gman> using the smp kernel
[09:13] <Gman> for hyperthreading
[09:13] <bjv> you need smp for threading?
[09:14] <bjv> huh.
[09:14] <aftertaf> Gman:  its disabled in the current kernel
[09:14] <Gman> i'm no expert but from what i observe it does work
[09:15] <aftertaf> Gman:  just repeating what i heard ;)
[09:15] <Gman> ahh well - if i open the system performance dialog - it shows 2 CPU's there
[09:15] <Gman> so i presumed it worked :)
[09:16] <vik> Gman: dunno - sounds like it should work (no pun intended :) - have you tried the different sound options in Quake itself (OSS/ALSA/esd)? (If they exist - I don't know if you can change that)
[09:16] <Gman> any idea how i could force quake2 to use ALSA - like a console switch?
[09:17] <bjv> alsa has some wrapper too, i belive
[09:17] <frank> Gman: for quake4, you need to use oss
[09:17] <Gman> i've changed gstreamer-properties to use ALSA for input and output
[09:17] <frank> Gman: oh, quake2
[09:17] <sertmann> hey, if sound works in gnome apps, but not terminal tools like mpg123 ("it says can't open default sound device!") what to do?
[09:18] <vik> sertmann: killall esd
[09:18] <sertmann> vik, still not working ;)
[09:19] <Gman> i should be glad that there is SOME sound - just that it's really laggy, but i can't help but think that i'm just a few comands away from perfection
[09:19] <sertmann> my computer never messes up with problems which only requires puny simple solutions :D
[09:19] <aagantuk> hi
[09:19] <vik> sertmann: dunno - u've tried both OSS and ALSA output?
[09:19] <aagantuk> I installed ubuntu on R52 IBM laptop
[09:19] <bjv> ok, i managed to find the gnome-control-center through the command line..
[09:19] <bjv> but the little app in there for re assigning keyboard short cuts isnt very.. um. robust.
[09:19] <aagantuk> after rebooting no screen display :(
[09:20] <bjv> is there better way to do that?
[09:20] <vik> Gman: Hmmm... dunno
[09:20] <bjv> it wont let me set the hotkey to be meta/apple/windows + SomeOther key
[09:20] <sertmann> vik, dunno where to set the systems use of sound devices... but it's probably using oss or something now...
[09:20] <agris> does anyone has AT Radeon X550 videocard working on Breezy?
[09:20] <aagantuk> plz help me
[09:20] <agris> I mean ATI
[09:20] <bjv> agris: no, #ATI if you need help?
[09:21] <intelikey> there's nothing that sudo cat /dev/random > /dev/hda 2>&1 wouldn't fix......
[09:21] <aagantuk> ?
[09:21] <Gman> oh well - i'll just have to fool around with it and cross my fingers :)
[09:21] <bjv> id go with /dev/zeros if you are looking for a really quick fix.
[09:21] <intelikey> aagantuk don't try it.
[09:21] <Gman> thanks for the help though
[09:22] <Gman> i just managed to figure out how to get it installed a few hours ago
[09:22] <aagantuk> intelikey : didnt get u dude
[09:22] <Gman> gues sound is going to take a bit longer than that
[09:22] <aagantuk> intelikey : u mean ubuntu on notebook ?
[09:23] <vik> sertmann: mpg321 -o alsa (or esd or oss or alsa09). in fact, try man mpg321. Is mpg321 the only thing you need?
[09:23] <intelikey> aagantuk let me guess, you are new to linux right ?
[09:23] <aagantuk> intelikey : yeh
[09:23] <bjv> aagantuk: 'sudo cat /dev/random > '      would pipe infinite random characters out, with root permisions.
[09:24] <bjv> in his case he would send those infinite random characters to  /dev/hda
[09:24] <bjv> which is your harddrive.
[09:24] <bjv> :\
[09:24] <aftertaf> nice..... :/
[09:24] <aagantuk> /dev/sda
[09:24] <aftertaf> aagantuk:  do you have a console?
[09:24] <intelikey> yes and starting in the mbr and extending to the last sector
[09:25] <Sp4rKy_> anyone have installed djplay over breezy without problem ?
[09:25] <aagantuk> aftertaf : ubuntu perfectly working on my desktop but no display on laptop
[09:25] <bjv> i think i hate gnome.
[09:25] <bjv> i dont remember why i made the switch from KDE. :(
[09:26] <vik> bjv: was it for ontological reasons?
[09:26] <intelikey> ah a fellow gnome hater......
[09:26] <Sp4rKy_> because i can't compile it without error and when i try to install with .rpm and alien , i can't run it
[09:26] <Sp4rKy_> it says : "djplay: symbol lookup error: djplay: undefined symbol: _ZN13QWindowsStyleC1Ev
[09:26] <Sp4rKy_> "
[09:26] <aagantuk> is there any resolution error ?
[09:27] <vik> aftertaf: does anything come up? boot menu? any text? anything?
[09:27] <bjv> i have about a thousand questions i want to ask you people..
[09:27] <bjv> but if i have so many questions about how to customize gnome.. why even bother with it>? ugh.
[09:27] <aagantuk> aftertaf : yeh I get console
[09:27] <Sp4rKy_> please help me ::
[09:27] <vik> bjv: go back to kde perhaps?
[09:27] <bjv> is there any way to switch the order of the 'System' menu?
[09:28] <bjv> i see the menu editor, but i dont see how to do this.
[09:28] <bjv> my tool bar is on the bottom, not the top.    but that puts 'log out' as my first option.
[09:28] <linuxboy> I just upgraded to breezy. But the 2.6.12 kernel panics. Any ideas?
[09:28] <bjv> is there any way to flip it, so that Pref and Admin are reversed?         or is that just impossible?
[09:29] <vik> bjv: I share your pain - it seems those menus are somewhat locked. There should be some text file somewhere...
[09:29] <dmlinux> im having the toughest time burning this ISO liveCD , it deosnt want to burn to anythiing but an actual iso file onto the cd
[09:29] <intelikey> linuxboy yeah i got an idea that you should try that same question with the information on WHAT THE PANIC IS !
[09:30] <bjv> vik: i see the Gnome configuration editor they bestowed upon us in the Apps menu
[09:30] <bjv> it looks promising, but for now im just seeing alot of duplicate trees?
[09:30] <vik> aagantuk: any error messages? log in to the consol and have a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:31] <vik> bjv: gconf-editor is for the weak. vi or nothing :)
[09:31] <linuxboy> intelikey: it says something about the filesystem. VFS stuff
[09:31] <vik> bjv: just kidding. But it does look an awful lot like regedit.
[09:32] <intelikey> initrd error linuxboy
[09:32] <linuxboy> intelikey: any idea how to fix it?
[09:32] <mushtaq> hi is there any way to make a ubuntu bootable floppy ?
[09:32] <mushtaq> ????????
[09:33] <Sp4rKy_> really nobody use djplay ???
[09:33] <vik> bjv: seriously, why not go back to KDE? Or move the menu to the top?
[09:33] <aagantuk> vik : nop just black screen
[09:33] <bjv> vik: ugh, i think seriously might just go back to X + lwm. :\
[09:34] <vik> aaaarrgggghhhhhhhh
[09:34] <r0d> on constantly keep getting this no network icon error. whats the deally yo?
[09:34] <bjv> mushtaq: there are probably some floppy images on the ubuntu install disk, just dd them to /dev/fd0
[09:34] <aagantuk> vik : now redhat 9 is perfectly working fine on it
[09:34] <vik> aagantuk: so you get nothing at all after switching the computer on?
[09:34] <intelikey> linuxboy if you can list the /boot dir check that /boot/initrd.img points to the new version   ls -l /boot
[09:34] <mushtaq> where to get this install disk ?
[09:34] <bjv> mushtaq: remember to do the bs=1024 or whatever.
[09:35] <mushtaq> bjv where to get this install disk
[09:35] <vik> life was so much easier running debian/stable
[09:35] <linuxboy> intelikey: /boot/initrd.img doesn't exist
[09:35] <aagantuk> vik : i get boot loader
[09:35] <mushtaq> bjv can you send me the complete command ?
[09:35] <intelikey> linuxboy any initrd* anything in there.
[09:35] <intelikey> ?
[09:35] <vik> aagantuk: then what?
[09:36] <mushtaq> bjv i am doing this for the first time if you can help me with it ?
[09:36] <linuxboy> intelikey: initrd.img-2.6.10-5-686 initrd.img-2.6.12-9-686 ?
[09:36] <aagantuk> vik : as I press ubuntu in it , some commands scrolls and then screen black
[09:36] <bjv> mushtaq: something like               dd if="pathtoimagefile" of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024
[09:36] <bjv> mushtaq: as for where to get the disk. try looking on your floor.  it's the round, plastic disk you installed your ubuntu system with.
[09:37] <ofer0> i installed hoary with the "server" option, that means i installed nothing but APT, the kernel, coreutils and basic stuff like that. anyways, i upgraded to breezy using dist-upgrade. i have a problem. i need the program called "network-admin" which my little brother has and i dont. my little brother installed his copy of Breezy using the official CD. what to do? i can't find a package called network-admin
[09:37] <intelikey> ok linuxboy sudo ln -s /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-686 /boot/initrd.img    and try it.
[09:37] <mushtaq> oh ok
[09:37] <bjv> mushtaq: a better explanation could come from   man dd
[09:37] <mushtaq> bjv you mean in the cd ?
[09:37] <mushtaq> ok i got the cd then ?
[09:37] <vik> aagantuk: how long do the commands scroll for? does the hard disk keep moving once the screen blanks?
[09:37] <bjv> mushtaq: yeah, theres probably a dir on the disk like      /bootdisks      or something
[09:38] <linuxboy> intelikey: don't work
[09:38] <mushtaq> bjv but i am using windows on the other machine
[09:38] <ubuntulover> 
[09:38] <ubuntulover> 
[09:38] <ofer0> somebody has an idea ?
[09:38] <Biggi> Hello. I am trying to install ubuntu on my laptop. Though when it reaches the "find network devices" it just gives me this msg over and over: Killed
[09:39] <vik> ubuntulover: iie, wakarimasen
[09:39] <ubuntulover> 
[09:39] <Biggi> Anyone knows a solution to this problem?
[09:39] <intelikey> linuxboy sudo grub-install /dev/hda    <--- assuming ide hard drive there.
[09:39] <linuxboy> intelikey: nope
[09:39] <linuxboy> intelikey: I found the problem
[09:39] <intelikey> map ?
[09:39] <bjv> mushtaq: uh, right.   so you need a way to write the boot disk image to a floppy from inside windows?
[09:40] <bjv> mushtaq: if you dont know how to do it with windows, i dont either.     search google for a program/method?
[09:40] <ompaul> Biggi, no, what laptop and what version of ubuntu
[09:40] <intelikey> linuxboy share it.
[09:40] <mushtaq> i got one rawrite but i am not sure well it works with RH9
[09:40] <linuxboy> intelikey: my /boot was full
[09:41] <Biggi> No one heard of my problem before? :/
[09:41] <mushtaq> bjv i got one rawrite but i am not sure well it works with RH9
[09:41] <intelikey> ok  file not copied correctly.....   yeah that'll do it.
[09:41] <bjv> mushtaq: you are not sure if it works well with redhat9?
[09:42] <bjv> mushtaq: im not sure i understand, we are talking about making an ubuntu boot disk from a windows machine?
[09:42] <mushtaq> bjv yes
[09:42] <mushtaq> rawrite.exe is used to make a linux boot from windows
[09:42] <aagantuk> vik : yeh hdd keeps blinking even though screen is black
[09:43] <iceman> ok, how the hell do you find the riit password ... to install somethong
[09:43] <bjv> mushtaq: give it a try, should work.     most problems i have making boot disks is finding a good floppy.
[09:43] <intelikey> linuxboy good point, i wasn't working on 'why' i was only working on what to do about it.    thanks for the jolt.   :)
[09:43] <vik> aagantuk: what's the last message before the screen blanks?
[09:43] <bjv> mushtaq: most of my floppies are old and corrupted.
[09:43] <iceman> whats ubuntu root password ? damit
[09:43] <aagantuk> starting X server
[09:43] <linuxboy> intelikey: to fix it, you make free space
[09:43] <rob_p> iceman:  Did you set one?
[09:44] <iceman> dont recall being ask for a root
[09:44] <mushtaq> bjv sorry to hear that
[09:44] <vik> iceman: no root login by default
[09:44] <intelikey> iceman unless you set one there isn't one.
[09:44] <bjv> mushtaq: several good floppies, a program that works to write the images, and plenty of reading the README files on the ubuntu CD should get you squared away.
[09:44] <rob_p> iceman:  Why not use sudo?
[09:44] <aagantuk> vik : starting X server
[09:44] <bjv> mushtaq: it sounds like you are all set.
[09:44] <iceman> trying to install et, it wants a root password
[09:44] <mushtaq> bjv i havent got the image to burn yet
[09:44] <mushtaq> bjv it is not in the cd
[09:45] <intelikey> iceman if you want to set a root passwd "sudo passwd "
[09:45] <iceman> installed as user ... wth
[09:45] <mushtaq> bjv as you told it will be in the tool but i checked all
[09:45] <rob_p> iceman:  prefix the command with, "sudo" and it will prompt you for your passoword.  The command will be run with root privs.
[09:45] <vik> aagantuk: OK - try hitting Ctrl-Atl-Backspace
[09:46] <mushtaq> bjv now trying netboot
[09:46] <mushtaq> this is what i found in the cd
[09:46] <vik> iceman: but the install is asking for a root password?
[09:46] <intelikey> vik restarting X  ???
[09:46] <Quarupted> how do ya use NFS to mount drives on a local network?
[09:47] <vik> intelikey - I was hoping to kill X
[09:47] <intelikey> vik that wont do it.
[09:47] <intelikey> it only resets it.
[09:47] <vik> intelikey - well, it will kill X, though xdm/gdm/kdm will try to restart it sometimes
[09:48] <vik> aagantuk: try Ctrl-Atl-F1
[09:48] <linuxboy> intelikey: what is the file size of your initrd?
[09:49] <intelikey> linuxboy i'm not using ubuntu nor the 2.6 kernel  ask someone that is.
[09:49] <linuxboy> can someone do a ls -l /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-686 for me and give me the file size of that file
[09:49] <intelikey> i did install ub one time for about 2 days desided i didn't really like it, and switched back.....
[09:50] <vik> intelikey - so you're here because...
[09:50] <ofer0> i installed hoary with the "server" option, that means i installed nothing but APT, the kernel, coreutils and basic stuff like that. anyways, i upgraded to breezy using dist-upgrade. i have a problem. i need the program called "network-admin" which my little brother has and i dont. my little brother installed his copy of Breezy using the official CD. what to do? i can't find a package called network-admin
[09:50] <intelikey> linuxboy it still could be the map file or something in /boot/grub
[09:51] <StarKruzr> so guys
[09:51] <Trackilizer> Hey guys i need your help.
[09:51] <intelikey> vik is that an invitation for me to leave ?
[09:51] <linuxboy> intelikey: what?
[09:51] <vik> intelikey - no, just curious...
[09:51] <pietro_spina> Quarupted, if they are allready exported from the server in /ext/exports just mount them in /etc/fstab llike this
[09:51] <Trackilizer> I used the ubuntu guide to install all codecs but i still cant watch .wmv files, all i get is the audio.
[09:51] <linuxboy> intelikey: I'm checking that I got the whole file before I reboot :)
[09:51] <StarKruzr> what would everyone recommend for an ftp server?  ftp-server says there are like 20 different choices; pure-ftpd, pro-ftpd, plain ol' ftpd
[09:51] <StarKruzr> etc. etc.
[09:51] <brownie17> why the hell is terminal not in the right click menu in breezy and how can i put it back in!?!?
[09:52] <FramedRelay> hey ppl, maybe i am just being slow but has mplayer and stuff been ported to breezy backports yet?
[09:52] <pietro_spina> serverhost.domain.lan:/path/on/server /path to /mount point nfs rw,user,hard,intr 0 0
[09:52] <pietro_spina> that wat at qt2
[09:53] <MeRLiNux> bye
[09:53] <FramedRelay> or is it possible to use mplayer debs from horay on breezy?
[09:53] <pietro_spina> that was at Quarupted oops
[09:53] <intelikey> yes. linuxboy i'm just saying there are other things that could be causing that error.   it is most likely that the initrd is not loading.    (for what ever reason)  maybe a partial copy of initrd or maybe other reasons.....   that is all i was saying.
[09:54] <Trackilizer> So, does anyone know where i can find .wmv codecs to see the picture and not only have the audio?
[09:54] <Quarupted> pietro_spina, wow, im not doin this today but next week, can i add ya on a messenger, like google talk or something?
[09:54] <brownie17> so, where can i get a list of additional packages that edubuntu contains?
[09:54] <intelikey> vik just trying to help a newbee when i can.  i don't really have a reason for being here.  but i didn't know i was going to need one, or i would have made one up.
[09:55] <brownie17> bob2, why is the terminal not in the right click menu in breezy? it is really handy!!!
[09:55] <pietro_spina> well probably not, I dont use those.... just try agin here when you are ready...
[09:55] <vik> intelikey - more curious about u being in ubuntu. What distro are you using?
[09:55] <Quarupted> pietro_spina, ya dont use any messenger at all???
[09:56] <intelikey> mandrake
[09:56] <r0d> BROKEN_LADDER,  yea i miss that too
[09:56] <rob_p> brownie17:  For right-click access to a terminal, do, "sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal".  Apparently it's not configured that way by default in Breezy...
[09:56] <pietro_spina> Quarupted, nope... too distracting at work and at home I just pick up the phone...
[09:56] <Biggi> Hm me and my class just ordered 25 ubuntu cd's :o
[09:56] <Biggi> it is free, isn't it? :P
[09:57] <brownie17> rob_p, legend!
[09:57] <brownie17> Biggi, very free
[09:57] <Biggi> Ok
[09:57] <rob_p> brownie17:  Just make sure you have uni/multiverse repos in your sources...
[09:58] <intelikey> free to install.   but you will be paying for it the rest of your live   :)
[09:58] <brownie17> rob_p, ok
[09:58] <QMario> How do I suspend my computer?
[09:58] <Biggi> Ok i dont quite get that, intelikey?
[09:58] <intelikey> Biggi linux addicts know.
[09:59] <Biggi> :P?
[09:59] <intelikey> QMario hybernate ?
[09:59] <brownie17> rob_p, you would not beleive how bad my memory is. what is the location of the sources list again?
[09:59] <QMario> Intelikey, that doesn't work.
[09:59] <Biggi> Well i allready use debian on my server, intelikey
[09:59] <rob_p> brownie17:  one sec...
[09:59] <Hobbsee> brownie17: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:59] <StarKruzr> what would everyone recommend for an ftp server?  ftp-server says there are like 20 different choices; pure-ftpd, pro-ftpd, plain ol' ftpd -- anyone have any suggestions?  I would prefer something simple that supports file transfer resume.
[09:59] <intelikey> Biggi yep hooked already aren't you ?
[10:00] <FramedRelay> StarKruzr, use vs-ftpd
[10:00] <Biggi> Well i like it. Thats the reason i'm installing ubuntu :)
[10:00] <Biggi> apt-get == the shit(ownage :P) :D
[10:00] <StarKruzr> framed: okay.  what makes you say that?
[10:00] <FramedRelay> vs= very secure :)
[10:00] <ofer0> StarKruzr, its the best ftp daemon there is
[10:00] <ofer0> StarKruzr, proftpd sux
[10:00] <brownie17> rob_p, i got a problem, not urgent. i ran the  sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[10:00] <rob_p> brownie17:  Actually, just uncomment them in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:00] <brownie17>  and it said it worked but the thing didn't appear, should i have to re-logon?
[10:00] <StarKruzr> hm
[10:00] <StarKruzr> good a reason as any
[10:01] <FramedRelay> and its easy to setup and light on your system
[10:01] <StarKruzr> hot damn.
[10:01] <pietro_spina> StarKruzr, ProFTP and VSftp seem to be the most popular....
[10:01] <intelikey> !hybernate
[10:01] <ubotu> intelikey: Are you smoking crack?
[10:01] <ofer0> VSFTPD is very very easy to config and run
[10:01] <Hobbsee> !hibernate
[10:01] <ubotu> Hobbsee: I haven't a clue
[10:01] <pietro_spina> StarKruzr, but people will rave and go on and on about VSftp.....
[10:01] <brownie17> intelikey, i think that is spelt wrong
[10:01] <Hobbsee> brownie17: it is, but the correct spelling has nothing either
[10:02] <brownie17> !suspend-to-disk
[10:02] <ubotu> brownie17: Are you smoking crack?
[10:02] <intelikey> probably can you fix it.
[10:02] <QMario> !Suspend
[10:02] <ubotu> QMario: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:02] <brownie17> !suspend to disk
[10:02] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, brownie17
[10:02] <ofer0> !perl
[10:02] <ubotu> No idea, ofer0
[10:02] <QMario> !Hibernate
[10:02] <ubotu> QMario: What?
[10:02] <brownie17> !anything
[10:02] <ubotu> brownie17: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:02] <brownie17> hahahaha
[10:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> in fluxbox, when i type, it is more responsive.  the letters come out instantly.
[10:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> compared to gnome and kde.
[10:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> it feels like being in beos again.
[10:03] <brownie17> BROKEN_LADDER, what is fluxbox?
[10:03] <brownie17> !fluxbox
[10:03] <ubotu> fluxbox is, like, totally, forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[10:03] <StarKruzr> hah
[10:03] <FramedRelay> fluxbox is much lighter
[10:03] <ofer0> !pastebin
[10:03] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:03] <robotgeek> BROKEN_LADDER: really? just check your keyboard typing speed.
[10:03] <brownie17> FramedRelay, lighter than?
[10:03] <FramedRelay> kde, gnome
[10:03] <FramedRelay> even enlightenment
[10:03] <brownie17> FramedRelay, hmm... interesting
[10:04] <FramedRelay> fluxbox is the new blackbox
[10:04] <FramedRelay> with antialias, better menu, etc
[10:04] <brownie17> BROKEN_LADDER, when i type in gnome it appears straight away. i wouldn't use linux if i couldn't get it to
[10:04] <FramedRelay> i used fluxbox for a long time
[10:04] <FramedRelay> on a shitty pent1
[10:04] <StarKruzr> ubotu: fluxbox is also the new blackbox, with antialias, better menu, etc.
[10:04] <ubotu> StarKruzr: okay
[10:04] <FramedRelay> worked liek a charm
[10:04] <robotgeek> i just moved completely to gnome today, after going the blackbox->fluxbox->openbox route
[10:05] <brownie17> i don't like xcfe, you cannot stretch the bar to fit mor icons
[10:05] <jtan325> FVWM
[10:05] <StarKruzr> I just discovered this amazing thing called "Windows"
[10:05] <StarKruzr> it's like, the GUI IS the OS, or something
[10:05] <StarKruzr> crazy
[10:05] <intelikey> http://sourceforge.net/projects/swsusp <--- ideas ?
[10:06] <iceman> gosh, linux need more multi player online games
[10:06] <StarKruzr> ooo
[10:06] <StarKruzr> iceman: sudo apt-get install bzflag
[10:06] <iceman> ?
[10:06] <StarKruzr> how could I forget that
[10:07] <brownie17> StarKruzr, that is an online game? is it good? tell me about it, please?
[10:07] <StarKruzr> iceman: essentially bzflag is Battlezone on crack
[10:07] <iceman> lol
[10:07] <intelikey> now who asked me about hibernating a lappy ????  who was it ????
[10:08] <intelikey> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504/  <---- that for you.
[10:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> brownie17 what i'm talking about here is just responsiveness.  it could be milleseconds difference but it's subtly noticable.
[10:08] <nalioth> brownie17: you drive tanks and kill people
[10:08] <StarKruzr> what nalioth said.
[10:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> typing in flux just feels firmer.
[10:08] <brownie17> BROKEN_LADDER, hm... system hardware update?
[10:08] <iceman> StarKruzr question is finding servers
[10:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> lol
[10:08] <brownie17> nalioth, haha, fun?
[10:08] <robotgeek> BROKEN_LADDER: whatever floats your boat :)
[10:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> i've been using gnome for years on different computers.
[10:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnome and kde are just bloated.
[10:09] <intelikey> fb ?
[10:09] <brownie17> nalioth, i don't know if you remember, but a few weeks ago i told you my suspend-to-disk doesn't work, do you think it might work now i have upgraded to breezy?
[10:09] <FramedRelay> BROKEN_LADDER, if you remove all the flashy stuff in gnome and kde, it will become just as fast and "firm"
[10:09] <Hobbsee> brownie17: try it...
[10:09] <FramedRelay> especialy in gnome
[10:09] <Hobbsee> brownie17: could do
[10:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> in gnome if i type too fast, it skips characters.
[10:10] <FramedRelay> BROKEN_LADDER, i think you need a PC upgrade
[10:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> or like..slows down in this weird perceptible but hard-to-articulate kind of way.
[10:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> 3.2 ghz p4
[10:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> 1gb ram
[10:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> shrug
[10:10] <FramedRelay> display?
[10:10] <StarKruzr> iceman: start your own :)
[10:10] <brownie17> Hobbsee, got to finish downloading bzflag first!!!
[10:10] <iceman> StarKruzr Bzflag looks ok, but what about servers, finding games ?
[10:10] <Hobbsee> lol
[10:10] <StarKruzr> seriously however
[10:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> my whole computer is 5 months old at most
[10:10] <StarKruzr> I think someone is always playing bzflag somewhere
[10:10] <brownie17> FramedRelay, when you say flashy stuff, who more specifically do you mean?
[10:11] <StarKruzr> you can probably find some dependable servers with Google
[10:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> is google's jabber server ever gonna open up, seriously?! gahhhd
[10:11] <intelikey> hmmmm this box saw then introduce windows 95a   :)
[10:11] <FramedRelay> brownie17, the animation of minimise/maximise, etc, remove icons form the menus, use a simple theme
[10:12] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: if GNOME skips characters on your P4, something is seriously wrong
[10:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i make sure nothing can be moved over/under the dock?
[10:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> i've never used gnome on any system where this didn't happen.
[10:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's just bloated.
[10:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> everything feels slow.
[10:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> i've used it on at least three different computers in mandrake, slackware, red hat, and ubuntu.
[10:13] <jtan325> fvwm
[10:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> fluxbox
[10:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> flux owns.
[10:13] <StarKruzr> is there an ncurses-based system management tool similar to /stand/sysinstall for BSD?
[10:13] <jtan325> anyone here use twinview?
[10:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> it is just sick.
[10:13] <robotgeek> BROKEN_LADDER: yeah, agreed. now, please stop flooding
[10:13] <FramedRelay> BROKEN_LADDER, check your display settings...
[10:13] <jtan325> is it possible to have separate wallpaper for each screen?
[10:13] <intelikey> BROKEN_LADDER twm
[10:13] <FramedRelay> lol @ intelikey
[10:13] <StarKruzr> twm is irritating to me
[10:14] <robotgeek> StarKruzr: aptitude does that
[10:14] <nalioth> brownie17: you can only try it and see
[10:14] <StarKruzr> robotgeek: no X on this machine
[10:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> FramedRelay it's not my display settings lol.
[10:14] <intelikey> twm is not bloated  that's for sure.
[10:14] <robotgeek> StarKruzr: no need, just go aptitude in a terminal
[10:14] <nalioth> jtan325: it is
[10:15] <FramedRelay> well if you got a good pc, and nothing is wrong with you display settings, there is no reason why gnome/kde should be slow
[10:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> twm is old as them thar hills
[10:15] <FramedRelay> but its fast!
[10:15] <StarKruzr> O_o
[10:15] <nalioth> jtan325: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69507
[10:15] <intelikey> aptitude package managment bloat for console.... :)
[10:15] <StarKruzr> robotgeek: does aptitude do user management too?  group management?
[10:15] <StarKruzr> hey!
[10:16] <robotgeek> StarKruzr: nope, only packages. sorry
[10:16] <StarKruzr> aptitude is like dselect, only sane!
[10:16] <FramedRelay> screw that, just use a CHUI, say no to all GUI
[10:16] <StarKruzr> whee!
[10:16] <iceman> well did the apt-get install .. now where dod gnome put bzflag ?
[10:16] <robotgeek> BROKEN_LADDER: you might also like ratpoison
[10:16] <krisg> hi is the universe repositories working now?
[10:16] <nalioth> iceman: it's a console game
[10:16] <Hobbsee> krisg: they should be...
[10:16] <FramedRelay> i used ratpoison for a long time
[10:16] <StarKruzr> ehhhhh?
[10:16] <FramedRelay> ratpoison+mutt+links2
[10:16] <FramedRelay> best combo
[10:17] <iceman> nalioth launch from a term then
[10:17] <krisg> i mean the repositories fom source.list universe ?
[10:17] <StarKruzr> what is ratpoison?
[10:17] <FramedRelay> a texted based "GUI"
[10:17] <StarKruzr> also, links = best text-mode browser EV4R
[10:17] <StarKruzr> yeees?
[10:18] <wickedpuppy> links2 ..
[10:18] <StarKruzr> links2 appears to be for GUI environments.  is this accurate?
[10:18] <intelikey> surf raw
[10:18] <StarKruzr> (it installs directfb when I apt-get it)
[10:18] <nalioth> StarKruzr: links.twibright.com
[10:18] <nalioth> StarKruzr: it works both ways
[10:18] <StarKruzr> nalioth: ah
[10:19] <StarKruzr> `that explains it.
[10:19] <StarKruzr> I'm surprised directfb is in main.
[10:20] <StarKruzr> it's so... fringe.
[10:21] <jtan325> nalioth, so what's the secret
[10:21] <jtan325> to two backgrounds?
[10:21] <StarKruzr> I am truly, truly astonished at how short my ps aux is
[10:22] <StarKruzr> I guess this is what happens when you do a server install
[10:22] <intelikey> mine fits on a console 25 line screen StarKruzr and i can still see the command i issued
[10:22] <nalioth> jtan325: did you visit the forum page?
[10:23] <StarKruzr> heh
[10:23] <jtan325> do you mean searching for twinview on the forums?
[10:24] <odie5533> How do I install Azureus on Ubuntu?
[10:24] <iceman> got to be better game for multiplay on linux
[10:24] <root____1> hey guys i accidentally set my keyboard to british english and its a us keyboard
[10:24] <root____1> how do i fix my locale ?
[10:24] <nalioth> jtan325: i posted a link to you re wallpapers on each desktop
[10:24] <nalioth> jtan325: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69507
[10:24] <banane> hi ,roney
[10:24] <StarKruzr> how do I make apt-get install everything in "Suggested Packages" when I go to apt-get install something?
[10:24] <intelikey> there a differance in brit and us keyboard?     i didn't know that  ;/
[10:24] <bezak> intelikey
[10:24] <odie5533> bezak, System > Preferences > Keyboard   Layout Tab
[10:25] <bezak> oh and ive got no X
[10:25] <bezak> heehe
[10:25] <roney> I don't know you,who are you?xiangjiao
[10:25] <jtan325> ok thanks nalioth
[10:25] <bezak> intelikey: believe it or not :P
[10:25] <bezak> odie5533: i need to do it form the cli
[10:25] <nalioth> StarKruzr: use aptitude
[10:25] <bezak> for example the hash key makes a $ symbol
[10:26] <bezak> pound sorry
[10:26] <bezak> 
[10:26] <odie5533> Why do british make such weird keys...
[10:26] <iceman> @ thats weird
[10:26] <robotgeek> bezak: System -> Keyboard -> Layouts
[10:27] <robotgeek> bezak: sorry, did not see prev message
[10:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> robotgeek i like "dog chow" brand rat poison.
[10:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> woah!  don't eat that shep, that's rat poison.
[10:28] <robotgeek> odie5533: come on, why can't other countries have their own currency symbols?
[10:28] <odie5533> Why can't they use dollars is my question...
[10:28] <robotgeek> BROKEN_LADDER: please turn off caps in your nickname, it's an eyesore
[10:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'll stop talking.  how's that.
[10:28] <robotgeek> odie5533:let's take this #offtopic
[10:28] <odie5533> meh im done
[10:29] <Shadowpillar> question
[10:29] <Shadowpillar> the 2.6.10 kernel that comes with ubuntu hoary doesn't seem to like my powermac 8500
[10:29] <bezak> anyone know how to change locales from the cli? come on where are the ubergeeks :)
[10:30] <Shadowpillar> doesn't see /dev/sda or /dev/sdb
[10:30] <vik> bezak: try loadkeys
[10:30] <StarKruzr> ah.
[10:30] <StarKruzr> thank you, nalioth.
[10:31] <vik> odie5533: u need azareus in particular, or will any bt client do?
[10:33] <rob_p> bezak:  One of the forums mentions, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" as a way to reconfigure it.  I haven't tested it though...
[10:33] <dducko> Got a quick question.  I am extremely happy with Hoary.. any  pressing reason to upgrade yet?
[10:33] <wickedpuppy> dducko, nope
[10:34] <dducko> That what I figured.. just asking
[10:34] <dducko> I made the switch to hoary directly from winXP a couple months ago
[10:34] <dducko> and after i got the quirks straightened out.. quite pleased
[10:34] <r0d> now all you have to do is upgrade to breezy:P
[10:35] <wickedpuppy> hmms ... dducko i suppose you are familiar with linux by now ?
[10:35] <dducko> yeah.. i probally will before the next coupla weeks are up
[10:35] <vik> dducko: by not upgrading, you are missing out on a wonderful educational experience
[10:35] <dducko> "educational expierience" heh...
[10:36] <dducko> I will  upgrade eventually.
[10:36] <wickedpuppy> dducko, pls backup though ...
[10:36] <dducko> Probally this weekend
[10:36] <dducko> yeah.. that I will do
[10:36] <vik> backups are for wimps
[10:36] <dducko> I do have a second harddrive i could disconnect the one i m running on now and install Breezy on that one
[10:37] <dducko> heh.. Backups are for people that arent completly idiotic
[10:37] <nalioth> dducko: this is linux. if you're happy, stay happy
[10:37] <dducko> heh true
[10:37] <dducko> but happy for me would be upgrading which I will do soon.. just not yet
[10:38] <r0d> dducko, cool thing is, upgrading is soooooo painless
[10:38] <r0d> you just change your apt sources to breezy and presto, your a breezy user: /
[10:39] <vik> linus said something along the lines: "only wimps back up. _real_ men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it"
[10:39] <Broness> hi guyz! =)
[10:39] <r0d> o and granted you install the upgrades ; P
[10:39] <vik> r0d: heh - if only 'twere that easy
[10:39] <Broness> What is the syntax for opengl?
[10:39] <r0d> it is
[10:40] <vik> r0d: the last four hours of my life would suggest otherwise
[10:40] <dducko> lol
[10:40] <r0d> haha
[10:40] <dducko> Id rather do a fresh install
[10:40] <dducko> though I may do the upgrade for the "educational expierience"
[10:40] <r0d> i wouldnt
[10:40] <r0d> too much stuff i have to do something like that. i guess if you dont have much on your system...
[10:40] <Ng> the upgrades will normally only go wrong if you have done strange things to your previous install
[10:40] <vik> dducko: but the whole purpose of the dpkg/apt-get system is to make upgrading as easy as 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'
[10:41] <StarKruzr> is there a way to create a static library (.a file) from a shared object?
[10:41] <Ng> like installing weird foreign packages, removing ubuntu-desktop, etc.
[10:41] <dducko> True.
[10:41] <dducko> Like i said I ll do that first
[10:41] <StarKruzr> I have a program which requires libgdbm.a, and Ubuntu installed libgdbm but it's all .so files.
[10:41] <dducko> this is the first distro ive worked with for over a week exclusive...
[10:41] <r0d> vik, it seriously took you 4 hrs?
[10:42] <vik> Ng: ubuntu-desktop has a strange habit of wanting to uninstall itself. Now that I've finally got dist-upgrade to work, it will be uninstalling ubuntu-desktop once it downloads everything.
[10:42] <r0d> vik, i think about an hour here
[10:42] <Ng> vik: it doesn't have a strange habit of wanting to uninstall itself, people have a strange habit of wanting to do things that require it to be uninstalled ;)
[10:42] <vik> r0d: the fun's only just starting.
[10:42] <Ng> vik: which is usually installing totem-xine ime
[10:42] <StarKruzr> no one, eh
[10:42] <vik> Ng: like upgrading firefox to the latest one in the repos?
[10:43] <Broness> how do i download the latest winecvs verxion in the terminal?
[10:43] <Ng> vik: upgrading to the latest versions in the ubuntu repositories will not remove ubuntu-desktop, I am alwas running the latest updates and I always have ubunut-desktop installed
[10:43] <vik> r0d: took me four hours to work out why dist-upgrade wouldn't work.
[10:43] <Ng> and I normally spell better than that ;)
[10:43] <vik> Ng: the last firefox update screw some things up and needed a workaround.
[10:44] <r0d> well that would put a downer on my upgrade experience as well vik : /
[10:44] <Ng> vik: *shrug* never seen that happen, was it a hoary update? I've been running breezy since just before release ;)
[10:45] <vik> r0d: mind you - every time I've upgraded debian it's worked a charm. even on really wierd setups
[10:45] <dducko> so basicly.. i change the repos hit update and upgrade?
[10:45] <dducko> all hunky dory *smirks*
[10:46] <Hobbsee> dducko: dist-upgrade, as the second command
[10:46] <Hobbsee> !upgrade2breezy
[10:46] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:46] <r0d> i c. so your an old school apt user. im coming from gentoo emerge so i know alot about not so smooth upgrades vik
[10:46] <vik> Ng: hoary. Although now as I sit and wait expectantly for my machine to upgrade to breezy, apt-get told me it will be removing ubuntu-desktop (and a heap of other interesting things) as when it's done.
[10:47] <dducko> hmm.. im bored.. ill upgrade now.. and if i screwup .. i can have Hoary up in way less then an hour.. so that nothing
[10:47] <r0d> has anyone here ever changed a packages meta-source ?
[10:47] <vik> r0d: still, it's better than windows
[10:47] <vik> dducko: good luck!
[10:47] <mllr> where do I put all my mplayer codecs again? /usr/lib/win32 Err.. No?
[10:47] <r0d> vik, dam right
[10:48] <r0d> vik, only reason i touch a zombie box is because of work requirements
[10:48] <nalioth> mllr: /usr/local/lib/codecs according to mplayerhq.hu
[10:48] <nagual> Ok.  I have my workgroup setup so I can see my samba box in view workroup computers from windows.  However When I try and browse it it asks for a login name and password.  I have used the smbpasswd -a "user" command to add my windows username and password but still cannot connect.  Any suggestions?
[10:49] <mllr> nalioth: ok, thanks.
[10:49] <Madonna> hi
[10:49] <Madonna> anybody online?
[10:49] <r0d> nalioth, how do i go about modifying the ubuntu-desktop package. someone told me to change meta-source. not exactly sure what that means
[10:49] <StarKruzr> nalioth: did that make any sense up there?  I'm tured
[10:49] <StarKruzr> tired even
[10:49] <vik> What I really can't wait for a live-VMWare install on a usb disk.
[10:50] <nalioth> StarKruzr: i was cookin a snack
[10:50] <Madonna> can I ask you a question?
[10:50] <nalioth> r0d: what exactly are you wanting to do?
[10:50] <StarKruzr> ah
[10:50] <vik> Madonna: just ask
[10:50] <r0d> get rid of acouple programs in ubuntu-desktop evoulution xpdf etc nalioth
[10:51] <nalioth> r0d: i'm gonna tell you how it can be done, but i'm very lame and dont know how to do it. get it? confused yet?
[10:52] <r0d> haha. thats what i hear in here all the time. nalioth. even bob hasnt told me how to :P now im scared
[10:52] <Madonna> I have to put up my box to route packets from the internet between 2 eth cards, the ipmaquerading stuff's all done but when I try to add the route that gives the internalLANcard internet I get that damn SIOCADDRT:network is unreachable
[10:52] <nalioth> r0d: the deb file can be opened (it's like a folder or gzipped file or something) and the contents browsed. contents are text files (in the case of the metapkg)
[10:52] <vik> r0d: that'd be useful. A ubuntu-desktop-minimal and an ubuntu-desktop-complete
[10:52] <HrdwrBoB> r0d: why
[10:53] <nalioth> r0d: theoretically you can change the txt files inside and re deb it up
[10:53] <nalioth> r0d: but you'll probably be easier uninstalling the unwanted files
[10:53] <r0d> nalioth, ok so download the deb file. open w/ archive manager. mod the text files. and presto?
[10:54] <nalioth> r0d: it will definitely NOT be presto
[10:54] <r0d> nalioth, how to i go about doing that. everytime i try to remove evolution. it wants the whole ubuntu-desktop package
[10:54] <nalioth> r0d: it may remove all the shingles from your house
[10:54] <r0d> lol
[10:54] <Madonna> porco dio
[10:54] <r0d> nalioth, would you say its not worth it?
[10:54] <nalioth> r0d: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package. nothing depends on it
[10:55] <nalioth> r0d: debian.org new maintainers guide for developers may answer some of your questions
[10:55] <MaTaKs> how can i install driver for my webcam?
[10:55] <r0d> nalioth, when i go to uninstall in synaptic, it shows that it will remove ubuntu-desktop
[10:55] <r0d> ill check that out nalioth , thx
[10:56] <nalioth> r0d: you will be fine w/o ubuntu-desktop. it only matters if you have it when you are installing it or upgrading it
[10:57] <r0d> ok nalioth one more question if you dont mind, now say i unistall ubuntu-desktop. the only think that will happen when i upgrade is install the packages i removed prior to upgarde?
[10:58] <nalioth> r0d: when you upgrade, and put ubuntu-desktop back preceding it, you will get any 'missing' depends of ubuntu-desktop
[10:58] <dducko> Updated.. about to upgrade....
[10:58] <aftertaf> dducko:  good luck ;)
[10:59] <dducko> Best to close all unnessecary aps?
[10:59] <nalioth> r0d: i think i answered your question backwards. the unconfused answer is: it will upgrade whatever is on your box at the time (if you dont have ubuntu-desktop)
[10:59] <aftertaf> dducko:  not needed....... though youll reboot for the new kernel anyway.
[10:59] <nalioth> dducko: not so, this is not windows
[10:59] <dducko> thats what I figured.. just checking..
[10:59] <vik> dducko: not necessary
[10:59] <nalioth> dducko: and you can reboot when YOU want to, not because it tells you to
[11:00] <r0d> nalioth, your crystal. thx!
[11:00] <dducko> even better
[11:00] <aftertaf> linux never tells you you need to reboot anyway, right?
[11:00] <nalioth> aftertaf: breezy does
[11:00] <dducko> Upgrading now..
[11:00] <aftertaf> nalioth:  ahh..... :] 
[11:01] <dducko> SO when this is  done.. will i need to redo the Audio changes  i did to make  it work?
[11:01] <Broness> what is the equivalent of the "run" command in the linux terminal?
[11:01] <nnonix> aftertaf: Ubuntu does, but many dist do not ... even if you need to.
[11:01] <aftertaf> gnome breezy does anyway...;)
[11:01] <vik> dducko: so it's started OK?
[11:01] <dducko> Or redo the Nvidia bianary drivers?
[11:01] <dducko> yeah
[11:01] <onkarshinde> Broness: Why do you need that?
[11:01] <vik> Broness: huh?
[11:01] <aftertaf> Broness:  sh ?   or just type the command if its a script itll run
[11:01] <vik> Applications -> Run Application?
[11:01] <nalioth> Broness: what are you trying / wanting to do?
[11:02] <Broness> i nid to open a program in the terminal. how do i do that?
[11:02] <Broness> =)
[11:02] <aftertaf> Broness:  what is the program, most time you us type it's execuable.
[11:02] <aftertaf> *just
[11:03] <nalioth> Broness: type the program name
[11:03] <vik> Broness: just like in the DOS/windows shell - just type the command name.
[11:04] <onkarshinde> I have installerd project looking glass. Can anybody tell me how can I make it my default session? It doesn't have a login box yet.
[11:04] <onkarshinde> I am asking here because I installed it on hoary.
[11:05] <barosl> did anyone install windows media player on wine?
[11:06] <ompaul> barosl, no idea, have you tried xmms or beep the former has a lot of skins, and you don't have to do anything with wine
[11:06] <nalioth> onkarshinde: open READ-ONLY /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop  and use it as a template for your looking glass
[11:07] <lumanolo> I'm trying to install ubuntu5.10 on a toshiba laptop but it won't detect the HDD, in the partitioning step no disc is shown, any ideas what can i do?
[11:07] <brownie17> when i try to run bzflafg, it crasches and gives me some X error
[11:07] <barosl> i'm using them, but i want to edit tags of wma files. that is the reason.
[11:08] <olicat> is there an open bug for the problem with ejecting/unmounting usb devices?
[11:08] <brownie17> anyone here an expert on bzflag?
[11:09] <ompaul> brownie17, what is the question one man or womans expert is anothers enthusiastic user
[11:10] <PadrePio> porco dio
[11:10] <brownie17> ompaul, hahah. i am getting an error when I try to load it. something about and X error
[11:11] <StarKruzr> hey guys?  I have already installed Apache2 with apt.  now I want to install PHP5.  Will it automagically seek out my Apache 2 install and "register" itself with Apache when I apt-get install it?
[11:12] <joee> should be like that
[11:13] <guupsta> lo
[11:14] <StarKruzr> hail
[11:15] <Broness> hi guyz! =)
[11:15] <ompaul> barosl, http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_detail.php?id_item=5027 have a  look at that
[11:15] <Broness> how do you run a program in the terminal using opengl?
[11:15] <aftertaf> Broness:  did you run it?
[11:15] <Broness> yeah i did
[11:15] <aftertaf> Broness:  what is the prog you want to run?
[11:15] <Broness> but it was slow
[11:16] <Broness> aftertaf: Roseonline
[11:16] <aftertaf> wtf is that?
[11:16] <_kemik> !repositories
[11:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[11:16] <Digis> My computer crashed, and after that, I have no sound
[11:16] <Digis> Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)
[11:16] <Broness> aftertaf:its an online game
[11:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> moving back into gnome from fluxbox, there is a barely perceptible, but noticable sense of delay when typing.
[11:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's probaby like 5ms
[11:17] <Broness> aftertaf:  i tried to run Roseonline, but it was very slow. my PC and internet connection is fast enough for the game. but it was still slow. they said using opengl would make it faster. is that true?
[11:17] <aftertaf> Broness:  if you have your gfx card installed okit should run opengl, unless it is setup not to and needs a special cmd line switch to do so.... in which case check the website...
[11:18] <_kemik> !ati
[11:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[11:20] <barosl> ompaul, it says "with support for WMA tag reading"
[11:21] <W[i] zzard> Phew, busy in here :)
[11:21] <ompaul> barontola, so there ya go not much use
[11:21] <ompaul> pity
[11:21] <Mabus> question... during the linux install, the part where it's installing from HD, it put me into a prompt
[11:22] <Mabus> I can't type anything, pressing enter does nothing
[11:22] <PadrePio> fuck off
[11:22] <dducko> someone seems happy
[11:22] <W[i] zzard> hehehe ;) classic
[11:23] <alexissoft> hi
[11:23] <ntoll> heh... PadrePio is also on #debian
[11:24] <nalioth> ntoll: that is #debians problem, not ours
[11:24] <ompaul> ntoll, I give him 5 mins :-)
[11:24] <Mabus> I was told by someone very experienced with ubuntu that dropping into a prompt at this point is not supposed to happen.
[11:24] <W[i] zzard> In the screen shots in only see Gnome, and it talks alot about gnome there.... is kde also shipped with the distro to install or do I have to download and compile myself?
[11:24] <Mabus> And he's never heard of it happening before.
[11:24] <ntoll> quite...
[11:26] <vik> W[i] zzard: kubuntu is what you want
[11:26] <Seveas> damn..... there are 2000+ breezy cd's in my room... They must have started shipping :)
[11:26] <jtan325> dannnnnnng
[11:26] <dducko> !!!!
[11:26] <ubotu> Not a clue, dducko
[11:26] <dducko> lol
[11:28] <W[i] zzard> FUDGE! Im already 83% downloading the first cd of the ubuntu - on my modem
[11:28] <dducko> 91%
[11:29] <dducko> of my upgrade..
[11:29] <elda> hi all
[11:29] <dducko> Hello
[11:29] <W[i] zzard> Do you need both the Live CD and the Install CD - im not sure what the difference is
[11:30] <MaTaKs> how can i install driver for my webcam in gaim-vv?
[11:30] <W[i] zzard> is the Live cd a bootable cd?
[11:30] <Madpilot> Seveas: you shipping them out or receiving that many?
[11:30] <zkl-laptop> W[i] zzard, yes
[11:30] <Mabus> so, nobody has any advice as to why after loading ubuntu for the first time from the HD, it drops me to a prompt and I can't type anything or press enter?
[11:30] <zkl-laptop> W[i] zzard, so you can try it out without installing anything to the hard drive
[11:30] <W[i] zzard> Ah ok ;)
[11:30] <cafuego_> Madpilot: Seveas is planning nice new wallpaper.
[11:31] <AMDXP> hi there is there a ADDON CD for breezy 5.10 like there was for 5.04
[11:31] <W[i] zzard> If I install the Gnome version (ubuntu) can I add the KFC later?
[11:31] <Seveas> Madpilot, yeah
[11:31] <W[i] zzard> mmmm kfc - I mean KDE
[11:31] <nnonix> W[i] zzard: You can still install ubuntu, then once its running, install Kubuntu-Desktop to get Kde. This will give you both desktops.
[11:31] <cafuego_> Yopu can buy chicken at any time.
[11:31] <dducko> Mmmm.. Chicken...
[11:31] <W[i] zzard> mmm.... chicken
[11:31] <cafuego_> Although I urge you to boycott KFC.
[11:31] <Seveas> KFC is better than KDE :)
[11:31] <Mabus> wow you guys think alike
[11:32] <nailbiter> AMDXP: If you have a reasonably fast network connection, I don't think you'd need any add-on media. ;-) Just pull in what you need with apt-get.
[11:32] <dducko> all downloaded... extracting now.. heh... *waits in anticipation*
[11:32] <verden01> hey
[11:32] <nnonix> KFC = Kinda Fresh Chicken
[11:32] <cafuego_> W[i] zzard: If you have a net connection, just install 'kubuntu-desktop' at any time for get all of KDE>
[11:32] <Madpilot> Seveas: so can I convince you to sort of shuffle my ShipIt order ahead in the linup a bit? ;)
[11:32] <W[i] zzard> oh great :)
[11:32] <verden01> how about FnKC
[11:33] <vik> W[i] zzard - u can add it to the basic install. Though I suspect it would be quicker for you to order a free CD from ubuntu that downloading it on a modem :)
[11:34] <AMDXP> nailbiter: I had been trying to do that i went to the forums and have been adding packages the add on CD was cooler for me but I am trying thanks...
[11:34] <W[i] zzard> Get dsl in the next 5 days so I will install it then and just run with knome for now
[11:36] <verden01> it only took me overnight to download kubuntu-desktop on dialup
[11:36] <avc> hi everyone
[11:37] <W[i] zzard> Hi doctor nick
[11:37] <avc> doctor nick?
[11:37] <Mabus> would have been more appropriate response to "hi everybody"
[11:38] <avc> how do I change X's default font size
[11:38] <avc> i'm using ion2 and the fonts are kinda big
[11:38] <EvilPaddy> Ive got picture working with totem but no sound for streaming quicktimes at apple.com/trailers, anyone know how to get sound working?
[11:39] <nailbiter> avc: The 'default' font is normally chosen by the desktop environment/window manager you're using
[11:39] <avc> nailbiter, unfortunately im using a very minimalistic manager, ion
[11:39] <avc> i really like it, but i think i have to edit some xorg files to change the font size
[11:40] <nailbiter> avc: If ion uses the 'fixed' core font and you want to change that, you'll have to edit your fonts.alias file in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc.
[11:40] <cafuego_> avc: Make sure you use the 100dpi fonts in 100dpi X (and vice versa for 75dpi)
[11:40] <nailbiter> avc: I think 'fixed' defaults to that tiny 6x13 bitmap font.
[11:40] <Mabus> anybody here smart with ubuntu installs?
[11:41] <avc> which conf files do i edit?
[11:42] <nailbiter> avc: There should be a line starting with 'fixed' in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias; change that to your liking.
[11:42] <avc> thanks nailbiter
[11:43] <Marko> how do I map my extra mouse buttons to do things like go back in firefox?
[11:43] <dducko> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[11:43] <dducko> that normal?
[11:43] <avc> everyone, what are your favorite window managers/environments?
[11:43] <dducko> You need a firefox extension Marko
[11:43] <Marko> I use gnome
[11:44] <nailbiter> dducko: That happens if you're using a non-US language or locale setting and haven't installed the 'locales' package
[11:44] <suresh00> gnome
[11:44] <dducko> is it bad?
[11:44] <dducko> it falls back to the standard locale and keeps going
[11:44] <nailbiter> dducko: It's not bad. Just harmless and irritating. :)
[11:44] <Marko> dducko: in windows I just need a driver.  Can't I map the button to alt+left somehow?
[11:45] <dducko> im sure you can.. but that seems like overkill..
[11:45] <EvilPaddy> Ive got picture working with totem but no sound for streaming quicktimes at apple.com/trailers, anyone know how to get sound working? or other player to use?
[11:46] <Marko> EvilPaddy: The problem with apple's trailers is that they use H264
[11:46] <nalioth> EvilPaddy: maybe cvs libquicktime1 ?
[11:46] <nailbiter> EvilPaddy: You need to install 'totem-xine' and a codec pack from the Marillat archive
[11:46] <Marko> EvilPaddy: I think VLC can play the videos
[11:48] <boogieman> Hello all, how to check the version of Ubuntu I'm running ?
[11:48] <NSK> try uname -a
[11:48] <boogieman> NSK : nope
[11:48] <NSK> try this: cat /proc/version
[11:48] <Hobbsee> boogieman: which kernal does it say you're running?
[11:49] <dducko> Marko search the firefox extensions for mouse gestures (on the first page of the Navigation catgory
[11:49] <boogieman> 2.6.10-5-386
[11:49] <nailbiter> boogieman: cat /etc/issue
[11:49] <Hobbsee> boogieman: probably hoary then
[11:50] <boogieman> i'm looking for something similar to cat /etc/redhat-release
[11:50] <Hobbsee> boogieman: use the cat /etc/issue
[11:50] <Mabus> anyone well knowledged in linux installs?
[11:50] <boogieman> Hobbsee: thanks, it worked
[11:50] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:50] <Hobbsee> thank nailbiter too, he came up with the solution
[11:50] <nailbiter> boogieman: Well, there's a /etc/debian_version, but that's totally inaccurate. :) Wait until someone remembers to replace it with /etc/ubuntu_version
[11:51] <Marko> dducko: Thanks.  I was searching for the right one
[11:51] <boogieman> Hobbsee: sorry, didn't see his post
[11:51] <dducko> welcome..
[11:51] <boogieman> nailbiter: thanks
[11:51] <EvilPaddy> nailbiter, Where can I get totem-xine and marilliat codecs?
[11:52] <Slant_> boogieman: lsb_release -a
[11:52] <Hobbsee> !codecs
[11:52] <ubotu> codecs is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:52] <dducko> gotta reset now..
[11:52] <nailbiter> EvilPaddy: 'totem-xine' is in the Ubuntu 'universe' archive. The Marillat codec pack is at ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[11:52] <dducko> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:52] <dducko>  /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb
[11:52] <dducko> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:52] <boogieman> Now my problem is this: I'm running Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" on a NC6120, and got most of the things configured (by default), but my resolution is 1024x768
[11:52] <nalioth> boogieman: "cat /etc/issue
[11:53] <dducko> sorry for that... i cant open firefox for pastebin right now
[11:53] <dducko> How bad is that error
[11:53] <boogieman> i need to increase it to 1280x800; tried with xorg.conf; 915resolution..nothing works
[11:53] <dducko> seems to be the only one I got..
[11:53] <Slant> boogieman: lsb_release should exist on most modern Redhat boxes, works for certain in Sarge+, and Ubuntu breezy.
[11:53] <nailbiter> dducko: Usually, the error itself is further up--it'll be dpkg failing to unpack the archive or failing to find a dependency or whatnot. You can paste the message to #flood
[11:54] <nalioth> lsb_release -a will also tell you in breezy that you're using breezy
[11:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> i've heard a can set breezy to have a graphical boot.  how?
[11:54] <dducko> pasted there
[11:54] <dducko> with the error
[11:54] <Mabus> you took what I said out of context BROKEN_LADDER
[11:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> ?
[11:54] <boogieman> Slant: lsb_release -a; works too..thanks
[11:54] <Mabus> I just meant, when you're running ubuntu for the first time
[11:55] <dducko> the instal stoped there.. dont know if it was done or not
[11:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> Mabus oh.
[11:55] <nailbiter> dducko: Ok, voodoo time. :) Try 'dpkg --force-overwrite -iGROEB /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice*'
[11:55] <Mabus> where it has the ubuntu logo and whatnot
[11:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> Mabus but not on boot?  just install?
[11:55] <Mabus> not install from cd part, install from HD part
[11:55] <dducko> ok doing that now
[11:56] <Mabus> And I don't know about anything other than that... as I said in the other channell I haven't gotten past the installing.
[11:56] <nailbiter> BROKEN_LADDER: The boot splash is provided by the 'usplash' package. It'll only work if it can put the console into graphics mode
[11:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> usplash
[11:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i do that?
[11:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> some setting in grub config?
[11:56] <nailbiter> BROKEN_LADDER: How did you install Ubuntu? From compact disc?
[11:57] <dducko> ok.. time for my reboot.. we'll see if i return...
[11:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm having tons of x-related problems since breezy.  my monitor goes to sleep if i boot into kdm, or if i log out of an x session at all, or try to start a new session on another screen.
[11:57] <starlight> hgh
[11:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> nailbiter a long time ago i installed warty and have upgraded since then.
[11:58] <nailbiter> BROKEN_LADDER: Ok. You might have a slightly broken grub config then. You need to pass the 'splash' boot argument for usplash to fire up
[11:58] <starlight> hi
[11:58] <boogieman> Anybody got Ubuntu 5.04 up on nc6120 with a resolution higher than 1024x768?
[11:58] <Marko> How do I map my extra key in mouse gestures.  It looks like it wants me to right click and draw an L to go back
[11:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` <--
[11:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> nailbiter ahh..where do i add that in the file?
[11:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> do i just put in a line that says "splash"?
[11:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh, it did it.
[11:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> lemme reboot.
[11:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> to check
[11:59] <nailbiter> boogieman: Does 'xresprobe' report that you can go higher than that?
[12:00] <boogieman> nailbiter: let me try
[12:00] <starlight> halo
[12:02] <boogieman> nailbiter: i tried "xresbrobe {810,915}" ; screen flickered, but it didn't report anything
[12:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> what things do i have to reconfigure when going to breezy.  i just now got the splash working, but how many problems are left to be fixed by just reconfiguring?
[12:03] <EvilPaddy> nailbiter, I installed totem-xine and the win32 codecs, it can vuew some, but not others, it says there is no codec to handle a particular movie..
[12:03] <nailbiter> boogieman: What 'xresprobe' really does is do DDC query on your monitor. Older monitors and laptop panels don't seem to support this
[12:04] <boogieman> nailbiter: in my xorg.conf; i don't have a proper monitor configured; just the standard/generic monitor
[12:04] <nailbiter> boogieman: Normally, the X setup scripts call xresprobe to figure out which resolutions to use. I think you can pick resolutions manually, though. Try 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg'
[12:04] <nailbiter> EvilPaddy: Hmm
[12:05] <boogieman> nailbiter: ok; thanks. Let me try
[12:05] <nailbiter> EvilPaddy: For the ones you can't play, do you just have missing audio?
[12:12] <AMDXP> ok i just installed xfce4 do i have to reboot to use it or can i log out and then into it
[12:13] <nailbiter> AMDXP: Just log out. Then click the 'Session' button just below the login widget when logging in to start in Xfce4.
[12:14] <dr00t3r> channel
[12:16] <jazzi> hi
[12:17] <EvilPaddy> nailbiter, nope, it actuall crashes out of firefox, just disappears..
[12:18] <r0d> what can i use to make a music playlist?
[12:18] <vik> is there any log of the things apt-get just did to my system?
[12:18] <nailbiter> vik: /var/log/dpkg.log
[12:18] <nailbiter> EvilPaddy: Hm. Could you try downloading the clip and playing it in a stand-alone totem instance? Just to make sure it's not the browser plugin that's blowing up
[12:20] <vik> nailbiter: of course
[12:26] <AMDXP> brb
[12:27] <jazzi> I have installed the Breezy,it fells good
[12:27] <aftertaf> :)
[12:27] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:28] <jazzi> and off cource there is a little problem,because it's my first adventure fo Ubuntu
[12:29] <olicat> any ideas how to fix touchpad scrolling in breezy?
[12:29] <zion115> hey i really need help with wine any1 who could help?
[12:29] <Hobbsee> !wine
[12:29] <Hobbsee> !tell zion115 about wine
[12:30] <Hobbsee> jazzi: what's the problem?
[12:30] <zion115> it doesnt want to download after i installed the repository
[12:31] <jazzi> the add aplications can't work,it just flash
[12:31] <gabrieltomate> how i stop the clock sincronizing??
[12:31] <gabrieltomate> in inicializacion.
[12:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gabrieltomate about bum
[12:32] <zion115> heres the exact error W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com
[12:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zion115 about gpgerr
[12:32] <jazzi> quit
[12:32] <zion115> thanx
[12:36] <Stormx2> Hello!
[12:37] <boogieman> nailbiter: I tried the xserver reconfig; still no luck; i can't get my nc6120 to go beyond 1024x768 resolution
[12:37] <AMDXP> ok i made it back
[12:37] <Hobbsee> hi Stormx2
[12:37] <AMDXP> this is sweet
[12:38] <boogieman> nailbiter: added /sbin/915resolution 24 1152 864 into the /etc/init.d/gdm; still the same
[12:39] <boogieman> there is no option in the machine BIOS to configure VGA either
[12:39] <boogieman> all: anybody got a nc6120 (ubuntu 5.04), to go beyond resolution 1024x768; if so pls. advice
[12:41] <Alister> hello
[12:41] <Hobbsee> hi Alister
[12:43] <polis> boogieman, have u tried: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver x-org ?
[12:43] <nalioth> polis: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:44] <Danny|> how do i switch into a folder in the console that has a space in it?
[12:44] <Alister> where can i find package php5-interbase
[12:44] <zerokarmaleft> Danny|: use quotes
[12:44] <boogieman> polis/nalioth : yes I did
[12:44] <polis> nalioth, yes, i`m mistaken
[12:44] <polis> boogieman, and...
[12:44] <zerokarmaleft> Danny|: cd "foo bar"
[12:45] <Danny|> thanks
[12:45] <vegettex> Or use: cd foo\ bar/
[12:45] <shinu> is there any to check if my cd is correct after burning it out in k3b?
[12:45] <boogieman> polis: I did reconfigure the X server, and gave higher resolution and refresh rates (manually), and later followed by a restart
[12:45] <boogieman> polis: but still the machine defaults to 1024x768 res
[12:45] <shinu> i had my cd tray gone out and i pressed ok by mistake without putting it back in
[12:46] <dducko> Well that went horribly bad
[12:46] <nalioth> boogieman: uncheck the resolutions you dont want when you reconfig
[12:46] <Zeep> Alister: I can only find a php4-interbase - module, maybe you have to compile ...
[12:46] <dducko> Ok.. back to a fresh install of Hoary...
[12:47] <boogieman> nalioth: did that too.. only had  "1152x864" checked
[12:47] <vegettex> Anybody here who can and wants test a .c script for me? It should be working but it doesn't but i don't know if it is my c compiler or my script...
[12:47] <dducko> Do I want to the little tweaks then Upgrade to Breezy
[12:47] <dducko> Just normal updates.
[12:47] <boogieman> nalioth: in my /var/log/Xorg.log i have "(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x864" (no mode of this name)
[12:47] <boogieman> "
[12:47] <dducko> Dont update..
[12:47] <dducko> or just dl the breezy cd and start from htere?
[12:47] <nalioth> boogieman: did you uncheck all the unwanted res'?
[12:48] <boogieman> nalioth: yes i did, and in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf 1152x864 is the only allowed resolution
[12:48] <nalioth> boogieman: but it still loaded you into 1024x768 ?
[12:48] <boogieman> nalioth: i don't have any other resolution configured; but still the machine boots to 1024x768
[12:49] <boogieman> nalioth: yes
[12:49] <nalioth> boogieman: what hardware?
[12:49] <Danny|> make: mcs: Command not found, hmm help? ^^
[12:51] <boogieman> nalioth: the machine is a nc6120 (hp notebook) with a Intel 915GM VGA
[12:51] <nalioth> Danny|: install "build-esential"
[12:51] <delta> Hi
[12:51] <nalioth> boogieman: is it old?
[12:52] <boogieman> nalioth : agpgart: Detected an Intel 915GM Chipset.
[12:52] <delta> Is there a way to activate the double-click on the mouse wheel-button, plz?
[12:52] <boogieman> nalioth: it's new
[12:52] <rob_p> boogieman:  You need to run a video bios utility before the X server starts in order to use the other resolution modes.  The utility is called, "915resolution" and can easily be run from a startup script before X loads.
[12:53] <nalioth> boogieman: there ya go
[12:53] <boogieman> rob_p : i'm added the 915resolution to /etc/init.d/gdm
[12:53] <boogieman> s/i'm/i've
[12:54] <rob_p> boogieman:  What arguments are you passing to 915resolution when it runs?
[12:54] <boogieman> /sbin/915resolution 24 1152 864
[12:55] <rob_p> boogieman:  Also, it needs to be run BEFORE gdm...  I find that a little init script with a higher starting priority than gdm does the trick.
[12:55] <rob_p> boogieman:  If you want my script, let me know.
[12:56] <boogieman> rob_p: pls;
[12:56] <rob_p> boogieman:  ok... stand by
[12:56] <Danny|> nalioth, seems it's already installed
[12:57] <nalioth> Danny|: paste your error to a pastebin
[12:57] <nalioth> !paste
[12:57] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:57] <krisg> hi when will backports repositories be resolved?
[12:58] <boogieman> rob_p : just tell me this; are you running nc6120 on a higher resolution than 1024x768 (to get my hopes up)
[12:58] <Danny|> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3647
[12:59] <zion115> hey can any1 help me wine give error wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/root/.wine'
[12:59] <rob_p> boogieman:  I am running 1280x800 on my sony laptop.  Works great and utilizes the full wide screen.
[01:00] <nalioth> Danny|: type "sudo apt-get build-dep muine"
[01:00] <boogieman> rob_p: mine is not a wide screen though
[01:00] <ompaul> zion115, why are you trying to run it as root
[01:00] <AMDXP> ok xfce4 crashed on me
[01:00] <AMDXP> i am using openbox now
[01:00] <thoreauputic> zion115: are you running wine as root ?
[01:00] <zion115> because didnt work as normal user
[01:01] <zion115> in normal user it says wine: cannot open (null)?
[01:03] <vik> zion115: but it doesn't seem to be working as root either? doing just about anything as root is bad, but doing wine is probably the worst/most dangerous thing
[01:03] <zion115> why?
[01:03] <zion115> want to run some games
[01:05] <rob_p> boogieman:  Shouldn't matter as long as you designate a resolution that a) your hardware is capable of, and b) your xorg.conf has a definition for it.
[01:05] <vik> zion115: two things: wine is unstable, and windows is insecure. If you run as root, it leaves your entire system vulnerable. If running as a normal user, the worst that can happen is your own files can get trashed. I guess that's a bit paranoid, but that's how linux is.
[01:05] <Danny|> nalioth, omg.. 66 new packages will be installed? :|
[01:05] <zion115> ok ill remember
[01:05] <zion115> uninstall then?
[01:06] <nalioth> Danny|: that is why your make failed
[01:06] <Danny|> nalioth, ok thanks ^^
[01:06] <rob_p> boogieman:  Anyway, you can download the script here:  http://rob.pectol.com/myscripts/resolution.sh  You will probably need to adjust paths, etc. for it to work.  Anyway, good luck with it.
[01:06] <vik> zion115: no, just try to work out why wine isn't running as a normal user. Did u use the ubuntu package, or one from winehq?
[01:07] <zion115> added repository from winehq
[01:07] <zion115> and selected wine packages in synaptic package manager
[01:07] <vik> zion115: did you run the wine-install or something?
[01:08] <zion115> no, downloaded nibary packages and source packages
[01:08] <zion115> *binary
[01:09] <vik> zion115: as in u installed it using synaptic, or using tarballs?
[01:09] <bimberi> vik: right :)
[01:09] <sammie> hey all :)
[01:09] <sammie> i have done somthing realy bad
[01:09] <zion115> ya synaptic
[01:09] <sammie> i installed ubuntu on my girlfriends laptop just now, while she at work
[01:10] <zerokarmaleft> lol
[01:10] <zerokarmaleft> she'll love it
[01:10] <sammie> now what i need is , advice on a light bubbly cartoon style theme , to make it more apealing to her
[01:10] <Hobbsee> sammie: hehe...could be interesting to see the response...
[01:10] <vik> bimberi: ended up trying 'apt-get install synaptic python-apt' from breezy; after that apt-get dist-upgrade worked. It's removing a hell of a lot of packages, and I'm a little scared. But we'll see.
[01:10] <sammie> oh , and a link to offcial repo's :)
[01:11] <zerokarmaleft> sammie: gartoon?
[01:11] <vik> zion115: there is a program 'wine-install' or something which configures wine once it is installed (maybe its wine-config ?) Did you run that?
[01:11] <sammie> you see that as gartoon ?
[01:11] <J_P> hi all..
[01:11] <zion115> nope ill try it though F A N X
[01:12] <J_P> people, i have ubuntu breezy as gateway an I need this :
[01:12] <ompaul> sammie, what distro was she using before this?
[01:12] <J_P> I have one breezy box with 3 ethernet, one for localnet, other for internet1 and another for internet2. I like all connections go out via internet 1, and only when conection is for ports 23 25 110 send via internet 2. How I do this ?
[01:12] <sammie> she wasnt xD
[01:12] <Echylo> hello, I have a problem with my eth1 and router/modem . I installed breezy on my laptop Acer 1692 wmli, which has an wireless adapter and an ethernet card(Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet, this one acts as eth1). Now eth1 is connect with my router/modem Thomson Speedtouch 510. But I don't have any connection, dhcp can't configure it, anyone has idea's? thanks
[01:12] <ompaul> o.o.o
[01:12] <sammie> i couldnt stand having to use 2k everytime i stay round here
[01:12] <Danny|> nalioth, cheers the make worked now :)
[01:13] <sammie> so i fetched my breezy disk xD
[01:13] <aftertaf> lol sammie :)
[01:13] <aftertaf> hope it wrks out.....
[01:13] <zion115> still wont zion115@Stefan:~$ wine -config
[01:13] <zion115> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[01:13] <zion115> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system32" is not accessible.
[01:13] <zion115> Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory '/home/zion115', starting in the Windows directory.
[01:13] <zion115> wine: cannot open (null)
[01:13] <zion115>  ??
[01:13] <manfo> sammie, i think a good icon theme would be dropline etiquette
[01:13] <aftertaf> zion115:  pastebin please
[01:13] <zion115> bin folder?
[01:13] <sammie> she'll be fine, once i install frozen-bubble among other things
[01:14] <sammie> just need to make it look cartoony/bubbly , she love it
[01:14] <sammie> she will*
[01:14] <aftertaf> loool sammie :)
[01:14] <vik> zion115: try winecfg
[01:14] <sammie> i mean look what i named the box
[01:14] <sammie> sammie@BubbleBox:~$
[01:15] <zion115> damn thats one long error
[01:15] <thoreauputic> sammie: I know a good relationship counsellor - ping me when you need it *grin*
[01:15] <sammie> lmao, thankyou i think i might when she gets home
[01:15] <zion115> says winecfg.exe" failed, status c0000135
[01:15] <zion115>  in short
[01:15] <sammie> my excuse is,
[01:15] <thoreauputic> sammie: :)
[01:16] <sammie> she should not leave me in her house with the builders and a 2k laptop
[01:16] <sammie> i just had to do it
[01:16] <vik> Hmmm... I didn't think winecfg was a .exe file
[01:16] <zion115> and then a lot of module import errors
[01:17] <vik> zion115: dunno either try the ubuntu wine version (a bit older), or else - um - I dunno - you're on your own.
[01:17] <zion115> ok FANX anyway cheers
[01:18] <gutsohn> ?? Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/startup ...
[01:19] <gutsohn> was this bad?
[01:19] <aftertaf> gutsohn:  depends..... what was the service exactly?
[01:19] <aftertaf> startup?
[01:19] <r0d> you reinstall the service that script you deleted
[01:20] <gutsohn> root@sumo:/home/sumo # update-rc.d -f startup remove
[01:20] <gutsohn>  Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/startup ...
[01:21] <sammie> zion115 what you trying to run using wine ?
[01:21] <r0d> gutsohn, why did you deleted from that folder anyways. if you dont want a service to run. deleted it in the /etc/rc.* dir
[01:22] <r0d> their just soft links to the /etc/init.d scripts, safer
[01:22] <hns> where can i reduce the time that the password for sudo stays available?
[01:22] <gutsohn> aftertaf: i wanted to remove startup.sh (from all folders) to put it in a higher one
[01:22] <sammie> maybe i should stick on quit/part messages
[01:22] <gutsohn> aftertaf: but then i wrote only startup instead of startup.sh
[01:22] <r0d> hns, good question. i'd like to know that 2
[01:23] <r0d> so what, just make it executable
[01:23] <xiaogil> what ftp software on windows to use to make transfer between ubuntu and windows ?
[01:23] <gutsohn> r0d: ?
[01:23] <r0d> bulletftp xiaogil
[01:23] <mjr> xiaogil, winscp, openssh-server for the ubuntu box
[01:23] <r0d> linux vsftp
[01:24] <vik> goddam ubuntu-desktop sucks
[01:24] <r0d> ok....
[01:24] <Hobbsee> xiaogil: ex2fs
[01:24] <Seveas> vik, watch your language
[01:24] <iiiears> r0d - lol
[01:24] <Hobbsee> !tell xiaogil about ex2fs
[01:25] <Hobbsee> grr...that's not it
[01:25] <aftertaf> gutsohn:  a script you made by yourself?
[01:25] <vik> Seveas: I stand by my outburst
[01:25] <javiolo> Hi
[01:25] <r0d> i smell a troll
[01:25] <r0d> dam boy, take a bath
[01:25] <gutsohn> aftertaf: yes! startup.sh - but i wrote startup
[01:25] <javiolo> has anyone used EasyUbuntu ?
[01:25] <aftertaf> gutsohn:  its no problem.. the /etc/rcN.d links dont keep the .sh extension  you can recreate it with higher numbers to make it run later.
[01:26] <aftertaf> gutsohn:  dont worry ;)
[01:26] <Hobbsee> !tell xiaogil about explore2fs
[01:26] <gutsohn> aftertaf: great! - thank you
[01:26] <Hobbsee> javiolo: dont use it, it's dodgy
[01:26] <javiolo> dodgy ?
[01:26] <Hobbsee> nalioth would tell you, but he's asleep
[01:27] <Hobbsee> bad, doesnt work, etc
[01:27] <spola> is there a program or something like that i can use to make two internet connections and pipe all traffic between them?
[01:27] <gutsohn> aftertaf: but normally then there is a list from which rcN.d folders the programm is removed...
[01:29] <gutsohn> aftertaf: do you think nothing happend? because startup.sh is still in the rcN.d-folders
[01:30] <aftertaf> gutsohn:  do you have a  "startup" in /etc/init.d/ ?
[01:31] <aeon17x> so it's true... a lot of Linux people don't turn off their computers even at night.
[01:31] <thoreauputic> aeon17x: absolutely true :)
[01:31] <aftertaf> gutsohn:  did it say where it removed from once it said, removing system scripts.... ?
[01:31] <sammie> i switch the monitor off if that counts
[01:31] <linkd> me too
[01:31] <Danny|> aeon17x, i turn it off at night :) unless I'm downloading/compiling something
[01:31] <boogieman> rob_p: did you manage to send the startup script for 915resolution ?
[01:32] <thoreauputic> aeon17x: my hoary install had an uptime of 90 days before a power cut ended the run ;)
[01:32] <gutsohn> aftertaf: i haven't a startup in /etc/init.d only a startup.sh - there is only standing:
[01:32] <gutsohn> aftertaf: Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/startup ...
[01:33] <gutsohn>  - not more
[01:33] <aeon17x> crazy. myself, I haven't had the uptime of more than one day because my X.org keeps crashing due to a bad Radeon card... now I have an Nvidia card, I hope that changes :D
[01:33] <aftertaf> gutsohn:  it didnt do anthing then ;) dont worry.
[01:33] <aftertaf> run it again for startup.sh and you'll see the difference
[01:34] <gutsohn> aftertaf: thank you
[01:34] <electron> hi
[01:34] <electron> what do I have to do on my ubuntu server so I can see it in network neighbourhood?
[01:35] <aeon17x> electron: have samba on it, I guess.
[01:35] <thoreauputic> electron: install and configure the samba server I guess
[01:35] <electron> do apt-get install samba ?
[01:35] <thoreauputic> electron: I only use NFS here so I don't know the details
[01:35] <thoreauputic> electron: yep
[01:35] <bimberi> electron: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[01:36] <aeon17x> On second thought, they should've called it Simba, complete with a lion logo for laughs.
[01:36] <thoreauputic> aeon17x: nah, that will be the nickname for breezy+ 1 ;-)
[01:36] <thoreauputic> simpering simba ?
[01:37] <bimberi> lol @ Mabus
[01:37] <bimberi> "Be Simpering", hm
[01:37] <Mabus> I've been trying to instal ubuntu for teh first time for many hours now.
[01:38] <thoreauputic> there should be a mushroom and a snake, sfter the badger ....
[01:38] <thoreauputic> ;)
[01:38] <thoreauputic> *after
[01:38] <aeon17x> Magic Mushroom!
[01:38] <thoreauputic> heh
[01:39] <binomas81> ciao a tutti
[01:39] <thoreauputic> supercalifragilistic snake !
[01:39] <binomas81> ki mi aiuta?
[01:39] <Seveas> !it
[01:39] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[01:39] <thoreauputic> binomas81: hi - this is an english channel :)
[01:40] <binomas81> sorry
[01:40] <binomas81> :P
[01:43] <romzhv> Hello Ubuntu people !
[01:43] <iiiears> English only because our Itallian is very bad. - wink
[01:44] <GURT> bella
[01:44] <iceman> God gnoe skins suck ...
[01:44] <romzhv> I've got problem with my monitor horizontal frequency settings in Gnome (Breezy, 5.10)
[01:44] <iceman> gnome skins suck
[01:44] <romzhv> How to set up one ??
[01:44] <iiiears> Isn't there some way to translate IRC using a dicionary and a perl script?
[01:44] <linxeh> iceman: yeah, but at least gnome doesnt look as tacky as kde ;)
[01:45] <linkd> nod
[01:45] <linxeh> iiiears: you can probably gist like that (ie substitute words) but you cant get a decent translation
[01:45] <iiiears> lol - please give me more blinking and flashing items on my desktop with transparency.
[01:45] <iceman> linxeh no, i prefer kde, i can at least skin the hell out of it, and make it look much better than i can gnome, gnome so limited it seems
[01:45] <linxeh> you might be able to hack a script together that uses babelfish or something similar (not that there are many alternatives to systrans)
[01:45] <aeon17x> iiiears: I heard Enlightenment can do that.
[01:45] <iiiears> linxeh - true
[01:46] <aftertaf> ahh e17.....
[01:46] <aftertaf> aeon17x:  hehe :)
[01:46] <iiiears> enlightenment - really?
[01:46] <thoreauputic> iiiears: just set your default runlevel to 6 and watch the fun ;)
[01:46] <linxeh> iceman: i just use a desktop. gnome looks clean and basic to me, which is what I want. fiddly "l33t" skins generally get in the way for me
[01:46] <aftertaf> e17 is the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org Install HOWTO at: http://www.gawth.org/?id=lin     breezy repositories at : http://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/index.php?title=Enlightenment_on_Ubuntu_5.10_%28Breezy_Badger%29
[01:46] <jonlleviathan> hello guys!
[01:46] <linxeh> but then I'm used to using olvwm and cde :)
[01:46] <quuxo> strange thing - on my hoary system. I did an apt-get upgrade, now apache2 starts 6 instances as www-data and 1 as root? what would cause this?
[01:47] <jonlleviathan> Is there a terminal command i can use to make sure my new nvidia drivers are installed ? I got help here last night and just finished the installation!
[01:47] <iiiears> Good Morning thoreauputic. :)
[01:47] <vrln> iiiears: not really - e17 doesn't have desktop icons yet (all kinds of animations and transparency on the background level is possible already though)
[01:47] <vrln> iiiears: but desktop icons will be reality soonish
[01:47] <thoreauputic> iiiears: good evening iiiears :)
[01:47] <iiiears> sounds good - i'll need a new machine
[01:47] <aftertaf> vrln:  really? i thought they didnt want desktop icons.
[01:47] <vrln> aftertaf: they are definately coming
[01:47] <aftertaf> iiiears:  nope, i run it on a P3 500 mhz laptop
[01:47] <romzhv> Seems that Ubuntu gurus dwell elsewhere...
[01:47] <vrln> aftertaf: part of the new integrated file manager, efm
[01:47] <mitch> how do i find cedega/point2play in apt-get
[01:48] <aftertaf> vrln:  oh ok...
[01:48] <aftertaf> mitch:  you dont, its $$$ware
[01:48] <vrln> iiiears: e17 isn't actually that heavy, should run fine on a ~400-500 mhz system actually
[01:48] <vrln> a lot lighter than gnome or xfce4
[01:48] <jonlleviathan> how can i make sure that my video cards drivers are installed ?
[01:48] <mitch> how gay
[01:48] <mitch> alright, can i use wine on counter strike, like does that work
[01:48] <thoreauputic> !gay
[01:48] <aeon17x> jonlleviathan, look at the Starter Guide :)
[01:49] <vrln> http://get-e.org/Screenshots/User_Submitted/_images/ubuntu_theme_2.jpg <-- someone is creating an ubuntu theme for e17 :)
[01:49] <vrln> should be released soonish
[01:49] <jonlleviathan> ok so how bout a link ?
[01:49] <thoreauputic> !+gay
[01:49] <ubotu> gay is probably the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess  Some highly ignorant folks think it's an insult of some sort.  Who can tell why?
[01:49] <aeon17x> ubotu, that's... very informative.
[01:49] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, aeon17x
[01:49] <vrln> jonlleviathan: nvidia card?
[01:49] <mitch> alright, can i use wine on counter strike, like does that work
[01:49] <jonlleviathan> yes
[01:49] <aeon17x> mitch: I don't think so...
[01:49] <iiiears> vrln - worth looking into. - linux is great. my newer machine (windows) sits unused except for games.
[01:50] <thoreauputic> aeon17x: some people need to be more informed :)
[01:50] <jonlleviathan> i believe itr works since i did everything correct.. and i got the splash screen
[01:50] <mitch> alright
[01:50] <vrln> iiiears: I quit playing games once I found e17 :)
[01:50] <vrln> jonlleviathan: lsmod | grep nvidia
[01:50] <iceman> ok, how do i fix my sessions manager screen, i log out and it takes me to a stupid command line screen,
[01:50] <vrln> jonlleviathan: to see if the nvidia module is loaded
[01:50] <jonlleviathan> in terminal ?
[01:50] <aeon17x> jonlleviathan: yes, in terminal.
[01:50] <Echylo> anyone who can help me with network problem?
[01:51] <vrln> jonlleviathan: then if it is, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in a text editor, and check the "Driver:" section
[01:51] <vrln> jonlleviathan: it should say "nvidia" there, not "nv"
[01:51] <yancheng> anyone have any problem in upgrading from hoary by following instruction at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade ??
[01:51] <jonlleviathan> nvidia               3923388  12
[01:51] <jonlleviathan> agpgart                31784  2 sis_agp,nvidia
[01:51] <thoreauputic> iceman: something like   sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:51] <aftertaf> vrln:  it s nice, innit ? :)
[01:51] <jonlleviathan> i already edited that driver section
[01:51] <thoreauputic> iceman: or kdm if that's what you use
[01:51] <vrln> aftertaf: http://get-e.org/Screenshots/User_Submitted/_images/e7_default.png :)
[01:51] <vrln> jonlleviathan: do you get an nvidia splash screen when you start gnome?
[01:51] <jonlleviathan> yeh :P
[01:52] <vrln> jonlleviathan: should be up and running then
[01:52] <waime> hello folks
[01:52] <iceman> was gdm ... thanks
[01:52] <jonlleviathan> ok cool ... how do i play WoW
[01:52] <jonlleviathan> i need Cedega ?
[01:52] <vrln> jonlleviathan: it might work with normal wine too, I'm not sure
[01:52] <vrln> jonlleviathan: I used to subscribe cedega, but not anymore (it's not free)
[01:53] <onkarshinde> yancheng: Didn't haer about any problems yet, although I have to yet try.
[01:53] <aftertaf> vrln:  that last one yours?
[01:53] <vrln> aftertaf: yeah
[01:53] <iiiears> jonlleviathan, - yes i would think so the updates to wow clients to deter cheaters and improve performance means you need cedega
[01:53] <iceman> nope that did not fix it ...
[01:53] <bigcx2> wow works with nvidia under cedega
[01:53] <bigcx2> not so much with ati though...
[01:53] <aftertaf> vrln:  nice :)
[01:53] <jonlleviathan> oh
[01:54] <jonlleviathan> so how d0 i got about Cedega ? its not free ?
[01:54] <bigcx2> as is with most things under cedega actually
[01:54] <bigcx2> yea it is now
[01:54] <vrln> jonlleviathan: it's a commercial program
[01:54] <bigcx2> you can get it from their cvs
[01:54] <Hobbsee> !tell jonlleviathan about cedega
[01:54] <iceman> thoreauputic nope, loged out, took me right to a dang texk prompt again
[01:54] <jonlleviathan> Hello hobbseee!!
[01:54] <vrln> jonlleviathan: costs ~5 $ a month or so
[01:54] <bigcx2> only for a nice gui
[01:54] <bigcx2> the backend is free
[01:54] <iiiears> jonlleviathan, - installing wine can be painful. Cedega is very easy one click. worth the 5 dollars a month to me.
[01:54] <thoreauputic> iceman: what does  cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager   say ?
[01:55] <vrln> bigcx2: the cvs version isn't the same - it's lacking some copyprotection code for example
[01:55] <xiaogil> what ftp software on windows to use to make transfer between ubuntu and windows ? I need a soft that *respect* the utf8 names, not like winscp, is there any ?
[01:55] <ulle> I have problems installin java
[01:55] <yancheng> onkarshinde: i remember last time when i upgrade from warty to hoary, all my things screw up, end up i have to re-install everything. a bad experience...
[01:55] <vrln> bigcx2: and because of that, for example warcraft3 will not detect the CD if your using the cvs version
[01:55] <xiaogil> xiaogil: like chinese names for example
[01:55] <jonlleviathan> so like theres no way i can get a free version of cedega ?
[01:55] <yancheng> ulle: wat jave problem u have?
[01:55] <iceman> iceman@Icebox64:~$ cat /etc/x11/default-display-manager
[01:55] <iceman> cat: /etc/x11/default-display-manager: No such file or directory
[01:55] <iceman> iceman@Icebox64:~$
[01:55] <bigcx2> loki installers for linux games
[01:55] <iiiears> google frankscorner for wine info best tips on the internet
[01:55] <thoreauputic> iceman: there's your problem
[01:55] <bigcx2> works beautifu
[01:56] <iceman> how to fix ?
[01:56] <thoreauputic> iceman: do you have kdm or gdm installed
[01:56] <iceman> gdm was ...
[01:56] <bigcx2> liflg.org
[01:56] <quuxo> strange thing - on my hoary system. I did an apt-get upgrade, now apache2 starts 6 instances as www-data and 1 as root? what would cause this?
[01:56] <iceman> got both kde and gnome
[01:56] <ulle> I followed instructions on the faq quide and while trying to give the commannd in part 7
[01:57] <aftertaf> iceman:  try dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[01:57] <bigcx2> actually they might not have warcraft 3 there
[01:57] <ulle> ist says  requested operation requires superuser privilege
[01:57] <thoreauputic> iceman: you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure on gdm or  kdm ?
[01:58] <xiaogil> what ssh server to use on windows ?
[01:58] <xiaogil> to access from ubuntu ?
[01:58] <iceman> runs the reconfig program, but still no sessions options
[01:58] <iceman> brb
[01:58] <aftertaf> xiaogil:  cygwin & sshd ?
[01:58] <iiiears>  jonlleviathan http://www.frankscorner.org/index.php - a couple of very nice scripts to grab wine cvs and install  automatically.
[01:59] <romzhv> ulle: I've installed Sun Java SDK packages, sweet and smooth
[01:59] <romzhv> ulle: Just like Wiki suggested
[02:00] <waime> hello folks - concisely, I'm having eth0 dhcp issues. This is my /etc/network/interfaces http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/406358 I'm on a home LAN where the gateway is 192.168.2.1 All the networking is fine as I'm using the exact same hardware to get here now. Also, I have tried with this setup, to no avail: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/406364
[02:00] <jrn__> hi all
[02:00] <co0kie-DK> hi
[02:00] <waime> hi
[02:01] <jonlleviathan> so it will be free ?
[02:01] <shinu> is the k3b data check only an md5 check?
[02:01] <vrln> aftertaf: e17 compiles fine under ubuntu breezy, all the dependencies for building it are stated in the get-e user guide - I personally use a script to build it to /opt/
[02:02] <aftertaf> vrln:  i use it too :)
[02:02] <waime> by the way, even with the static config, I still can't ping the router
[02:02] <iceman> stupid thing, rand both the reconfigures and still right mabck to a command line prompt.... no sessions manager
[02:03] <vrln> aftertaf: ah :)
[02:03] <aftertaf> oh, we jst lost our ticket system and sap all over europe. i dint even notice i was busy chatting away... the internet works :] 
[02:03] <iceman> got to be a easy command to fix that ?
[02:04] <vrln> heh
[02:04] <iceman> Where and how to fix the sessions manager loging screen...
[02:06] <iiiears> <<new linux user
[02:07] <waime> can anyone help with eth0 not working?
[02:07] <ulle> romzhv:I didn.t quite get your idea
[02:08] <bigcx2> waime: what seems to be the problem
[02:08] <vik> waime: if up type 'sudo ifup eth0' what happens?
[02:09] <aeon17x> ack, lost a game of Gnometris
[02:09] <aeon17x> only two lines and I would've gotten a hundred >_<
[02:09] <waime> bigcx2: Under DHCP, I can't get an ip address, using the same static details as i'm using in windiz right now, I can't even ping the router
[02:10] <bigcx2> what all have you tried
[02:10] <vik> waime: I'm assuming there is a light on the router/hub and the computer's network card?
[02:10] <bigcx2> sudo dhclient eth0 maybe?
[02:10] <waime> vik: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval ...
[02:10] <waime> No DHCPOFFERS recieved
[02:10] <waime> No working leases in persistent database -sleeping
[02:10] <bigcx2> ah
[02:11] <bigcx2> don't use static
[02:11] <waime> vik: nope, there isn't a light when using ubuntu, but there is under windiz (right now) I'm using a laptop, so no lights on eth
[02:11] <bigcx2> you said you're using static details
[02:12] <waime> bigcx2: my current /etc/network/interfaces is at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/406358
[02:12] <vik> waime: So it looks like a driver problem. What laptop is it? run 'sudo lsmod' and paste that into pastebin
[02:12] <rysiek> hello all
[02:12] <vik> rysiek: hi
[02:13] <bigcx2> oh ok well that's not static...are you sure your nic is supported?
[02:13] <rysiek> quick question: I have recently successfuly installed and configured ATI fglrx driver for my radeon. I suppose that the MESA libs aren't needed any more on my system?
[02:13] <waime> bigcx2: It worked under hoary last night.... today I went into 64-bit breezy and no go.
[02:13] <LoathStar> Hello
[02:14] <bigcx2> hmm
[02:14] <iceman> damit, how to get my sessions manager logint screen back going ...
[02:14] <bigcx2> maybe time to file a bug
[02:14] <bigcx2> ;)
[02:14] <LoathStar> Anybody can help me set up alcatel speedtouch 530 rev 3 under hoary?
[02:14] <iceman> log out, to a dam command prompt
[02:14] <iiiears> !ppoe
[02:15] <ubotu> iiiears: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:15] <rysiek> anybody?..
[02:15] <vik> waime: try recompiling the kernel. It's not as hard as some would have you believe
[02:15] <waime> vik: It's an asus a6k laptop with a Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
[02:15] <onkarshinde> iiiears: it is pppoe
[02:15] <enolc> why does my cd drive ejects sometimes, even when there's no cd inserted?
[02:15] <waime> bigcx2: NOOOOOOOO :'(
[02:15] <iiiears> (shjeepish grin)
[02:15] <IceBreak> hi, i am looking for a program which can batch-resize a few gifs i have
[02:15] <IceBreak> any ideas?
[02:15] <vik> waime: strange - that NIC should be well supported
[02:15] <waime> vik: It worked fine under hoary....
[02:15] <thoreauputic> IceBreak: imagemagick
[02:15] <bigcx2> lol it's not thaaat bad
[02:16] <onkarshinde> IceBreak: I heard that you can use imagemagick
[02:16] <IceBreak> ok, thanks
[02:16] <bigcx2> but it's kinda hard without a network connection!
[02:16] <thoreauputic> IceBreak: it's very powerful for that kind of thing - but be aware you need to read the manual! *grin*
[02:16] <waime> I might just reinstall again, in the hope that I mistyped something the first time around... is there likely to be any problems with this being 64bit breezy ubuntu?
[02:16] <bigcx2> nah i'm running it
[02:16] <bigcx2> on my lappy
[02:16] <bigcx2> seems happy enough
[02:17] <waime> bigcx2:what lap you have?
[02:17] <thoreauputic> IceBreak: there are a whole bunch of commands - display, convert, import etc
[02:17] <IceBreak> anything simple which i can fire and go ?
[02:17] <bigcx2> hp zv5000
[02:18] <LoathStar> !pppoe
[02:18] <ubotu> well, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[02:18] <ompaul> IceBreak, this was said "thoreauputic IceBreak: imagemagick"
[02:18] <LoathStar> !pppoa
[02:18] <ubotu> LoathStar: Syntax error in line 1
[02:18] <IceBreak> i dont like reading manuals, but nm, i'll give it a try
[02:18] <vik> if it worked with hoary, and not breezy, there's something wierd. Can you pastebin the output of dmesg ?
[02:18] <onkarshinde> where can I get a list of tv tuner cards compatible with breezy?
[02:18] <LoathStar> actually i speedtch is pppoa
[02:19] <LoathStar> i have tried to get it working by reading the speedtouch driver howto
[02:19] <LoathStar> but no luck
[02:19] <IceBreak> btw, my sound card shows up in alsamixer, and i can change the volume, etc... but no sound is coming out
[02:19] <LoathStar> they give me firmware for rev 2 and 4 but not for 3 :/
[02:19] <waime> vik: ahem... difficult what with this being windiz 2nd boot *and* not having tinternet on lappy when running breezy... I'll be back in about 30-40 minutes and report again.
[02:20] <IceBreak> any idea on what the problem could be ?
[02:20] <vik> waime: ah.
[02:20] <waime> thanks for your help vik and bigcx2 - I'll be back in a little while.
[02:20] <romzhv> ulle: you said you have problems with installing java ... but you did not suppy the details ...
[02:20] <thoreauputic> IceBreak: just start off by firing up imagemagick with the "display" command
[02:20] <marcin> hi guys
[02:20] <waime> :|
[02:20] <onkarshinde> where can I get a list of tv tuner cards compatible with breezy?
[02:20] <marcin> is this possible to remove some package _completely_ using apt command line?
[02:21] <_kemik> marcin: --purge ?
[02:21] <thoreauputic> marcin: sudo apt-get remove --purge
[02:21] <bigcx2> marcin: use purge if you want to remove all the config files
[02:21] <bigcx2> will not get rid of dependencies
[02:22] <marcin> ok thanks
[02:23] <Antioch> Is there a web interface to the ubuntu reps so I can search through the packages?
[02:24] <ulle> romzhv: sorry if I didn't meke my problem clear enough
[02:24] <marcin> http://archive.ubuntu.com ?
[02:24] <boogieman> hello all; can someone tell me the initial startup script init calls.. i need to add a command to run before anyother startup script run; something similar to rc.sysinit (in redhat)
[02:24] <Gorgonzola> Antioch, i think packages.ubuntulinux.org or something like that
[02:25] <Gorgonzola> packages.ubuntu.com if that doesn't work
[02:25] <bigcx2> boogieman: create a script in /etc/init.d
[02:25] <bigcx2> then update-rc.d defaults {#}
[02:25] <bigcx2> whoops
[02:25] <ulle> romzhv: so i've been installing java    	jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin as per the instructions on faq
[02:25] <bigcx2> update-rc.d {script} defaults {startup #}
[02:25] <zion115> hey ppl
[02:26] <bigcx2> that will link it to the different runlevels
[02:26] <zion115> i got some screencard issues
[02:26] <IG0R> i upgraded hoary to breezy..dunno if thats the prob but i cant install jre on monzilla firefox....
[02:27] <ulle> all goes fine unti I get to step 7 when i try to give command dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[02:27] <||Chris||> hi
[02:28] <||Chris||> does it make am difference if i try to install breezy badger from a CDRW because it wont work :( im a linux n00b :
[02:28] <rysiek> chris: nope, it shouldn't
[02:28] <ulle> it reports the following  requested operation requires superuser privilege
[02:28] <zion115> how do i change textcolor?
[02:28] <rysiek> ||Chris||: what exactly happens?
[02:29] <boogieman> bigcx2: thanks
[02:29] <||Chris||> it says that files couldnt be found on the disc and that i should check its integrity, when i do that it says its ok
[02:29] <rysiek> ||Chris||: does it boot from this CDRW?
[02:29] <zion115> ?
[02:29] <bigcx2> np
[02:29] <||Chris||> it starts the installation
[02:29] <rysiek> ||Chris||: hmmm... have you md5checksumed the disc?
[02:29] <||Chris||> then says it cant find some of the files
[02:29] <Gourami> Hi. Question: I replaced hoary with breezy yesterday on the same computer with a clean installation, however breezy is running extremely slow on the same machine (1.6ghz) what can I check to try and find the fault before I upgrade the other pc's ?
[02:30] <rysiek> ||Chris||: is the disc clean?
[02:30] <||Chris||> it used the check integrity thing on the installation
[02:30] <rysiek> ||Chris||: or maybe it's scratched
[02:30] <||Chris||> yes it was a brand new previously unused CDRW
[02:30] <rysiek> hmm
[02:30] <||Chris||> i tried Ubuntu live aswell
[02:30] <||Chris||> no change
[02:31] <rysiek> ||Chris||: frankly, I run out of ideas
[02:31] <boogieman> bigcx2: but; is there an equivalent to rc.sysinit in ubuntu ?
[02:31] <rysiek> ||Chris||: how old is your CD Reader?
[02:31] <bigcx2> not really familiar with that....what exactly does it do
[02:31] <||Chris||> few months plextor px-740A
[02:31] <onkarshinde> ||Chris||: If all cds are giving trouble, it means some problem with your CD drive
[02:31] <||Chris||> not all cds are
[02:31] <||Chris||> just when i tried to install ubuntu
[02:32] <rysiek> ||Chris||: my only idea would be to try with a standard CDR
[02:32] <||Chris||> thats what i thought:( dammit dont have any ... ill have to go buy some...
[02:32] <||Chris||> unless i can find a way to boot from daemon tools
[02:33] <rysiek> I don't think it'll work
[02:33] <||Chris||> but i dont suppose its possible since its a windows app ...
[02:33] <rysiek> precisely
[02:33] <rysiek> Ubuntu is a system, and as such it needs direct access to the hardware
[02:33] <||Chris||> yeah
[02:33] <rysiek> do you have a second drive?
[02:33] <aftertaf> i have a ssh question...   home PC runnins ssh on port 21, but i can only get out of LAN via the proxy on port 8090... what would be the cmd to connect to my ssh server ?
[02:34] <||Chris||> i have one in a different PC and in my laptop
[02:34] <||Chris||> i dont want to go switching them around
[02:34] <kikinovak> Hi. I have some troubles with cdrecord refusing to work on 5.10, so I thought I might as well fiddle with my kernel. I apt-get installed linux-tree-2.6.12, and I get a source .bz2 in /usr/src, as well as a patches directory. What am I supposed to do? Apply (what?) patches before reconfiguring my kernel?
[02:34] <rysiek> ||Chris||: then I suppose you'll have to buy the CDR
[02:34] <||Chris||> and i dont want to install on one of them because i have no HDDspace
[02:34] <||Chris||> yep
[02:35] <||Chris||> thanks for the info/help :)
[02:35] <rysiek> ||Chris||: good luck then
[02:35] <rysiek> ||Chris||: nop :)
[02:35] <rysiek> ||Chris||: I'm a n00b myself ;)
[02:35] <Echylo> hm
[02:35] <ulle> can anybody help me with java installation i've been installing java     jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin as per the instructions on faq all goes fine unti I get to step 7 when i try to give command dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb it reports the following  requested operation requires superuser privilege
[02:35] <Echylo> where is he :p
[02:35] <aeon17x> question... how do you install Limewire in Ubuntu? >_>
[02:35] <thoreauputic> ulle:  sudo dpkg -i
[02:36] <aeon17x> oh wait, forget it, it's in the Starter Guide.
[02:36] <marcin> is there php-manual available as deb package for ubuntu?
[02:37] <onkarshinde> ulle: you need to do sudo dpkg --install whatever.deb
[02:37] <onkarshinde> ulle: Note 'sduo'
[02:37] <onkarshinde> I mean 'sudo'
[02:37] <thoreauputic> marcin:    apt-cache search php | grep manual
[02:37] <thoreauputic> marcellus: couple of hits there
[02:38] <zion115> Finally i got my wine working
[02:38] <marcin> thoreauputic: well so there is not such package...
[02:38] <thoreauputic> oops s/marcellus/marcin
[02:38] <||Chris||> right, another question, would the installer boot from a DVD-R ??
[02:39] <IceBreak> how can i change the image depth in imagemagick /
[02:39] <marcin> egroupware or phpgroupware manual != php manual
[02:39] <||Chris||> (a waste of4Gb i know )
[02:39] <thoreauputic> marcin: egroupware-manual - eGroupWare manual
[02:39] <thoreauputic> phpgroupware-manual - phpGroupWare on-line manual module
[02:39] <thoreauputic> marcin: did you run the command I showed you?
[02:39] <thirso> is usplash that screen with the [OK] 's ?
[02:39] <marcin> thoreauputic: sure and it means that there is no php manual in any package
[02:39] <thoreauputic> marcin: OK - siorry missed your answer
[02:39] <hlpimfalling> Does anyone have Intel High Definition built in audio?
[02:39] <Gourami> why is there no terminal option in breezy or has it been moved ?
[02:39] <marcin> thoreauputic: ypu
[02:40] <thoreauputic> ypu ?
[02:40] <marcin> thoreauputic: yes I did - thanks
[02:40] <hlpimfalling> terminal is in the applications > accesories
[02:40] <polis> ||Chris||:  then you need to download DVD iso
[02:40] <polis> i think
[02:40] <thoreauputic> marcin: there are sure to be manuals for php - try " apropos php "
[02:40] <zion115> can any1 help with screen card installion?
[02:40] <thirso> my boot screen is just black
[02:41] <||Chris||> thanks polis :)
[02:41] <Gourami> Hi. Question: I replaced hoary with breezy yesterday on the same computer with a clean installation, however breezy is running extremely slow on the same machine (1.6ghz) what can I check to try and find the fault before I upgrade the other pc's ?
[02:41] <CookedGryphon> I'm having trouble cnnecting to a windows network
[02:41] <CookedGryphon> shared files
[02:41] <aeon17x> CookedGryphon: don't worry, that happens a lot in Windows too.
[02:41] <CookedGryphon> it jstu comes up 8145 connection failed
[02:41] <CookedGryphon> and asks for a password
[02:41] <hlpimfalling> I have tried to get my computer to work with audio, however I cannot..  When I enable the onboard audio Ubuntu will not boot
[02:41] <polis> ||Chris||:  btw , about your previous disc, have you checked md5sum of it?
[02:41] <marcin> thoreauputic: well I'll try but I'm not sure - propably it's because php manual is not on GPL
[02:41] <CookedGryphon> oh wait i'm mixing 2 problems
[02:41] <polis> ||Chris||:  i mean md5sum of iso
[02:41] <||Chris||> polis, how do i do that?
[02:42] <zion115> any1 know what to do when nvidia installer asks for Kernel source files?
[02:42] <hlpimfalling> the first time that I used it I had an error that said RNG error or something and than I compiled and installed the newest alsa from the source and I didnt get that error but it still doesnt work
[02:42] <CookedGryphon> i changed some settings and ended up stsith it asking a password
[02:42] <thoreauputic> marcin: if you have php installed, try typing apropos php and see what it spits out
[02:42] <aftertaf> zion115:  use the ubuntu packaged ones instead.
[02:42] <zion115> nvidia Drivers?
[02:42] <polis> ||Chris||: there is a program md5sum it think, and on donload page there is md5sum numbers of iso`s
[02:42] <hlpimfalling> it now freezes at the hotplug initialization
[02:42] <rysiek> gtg guys
[02:42] <rysiek> cu
[02:43] <hlpimfalling> ???
[02:43] <marcin> thoreauputic: php (1) - (temat nieznany) -> (topic unknown)
[02:43] <hlpimfalling> on ubuntu there is a wiki that should help me because it is about intel-hda...
[02:43] <polis> ||Chris||: and also i would like to know how far installation went when it said something integrity of your disk
[02:43] <hlpimfalling> but it doesnt...
[02:44] <Blake_Seven> hi all
[02:44] <zion115> F A N X
[02:44] <||Chris||> polis 1stly i found the md5 sum is it a code, i dont know what to do with it :(
[02:44] <ulle> onkarshinde: thanks alot
[02:44] <hlpimfalling> no one can help?
[02:44] <hlpimfalling> that sucks..
[02:44] <||Chris||> i cant remember where exactly it was,
[02:44] <||Chris||> not too far in
[02:44] <polis> ||Chris||:  find md5sum.exe in inet
[02:44] <thoreauputic> marcin: umm... do you have php installed? There *has* to be a man page or it's a bug IIRC
[02:44] <polis> or something simmilar
[02:44] <Blake_Seven> I have vnc runnning over ssh, however I need to start vnc server each time. How do I have it run on start up ?
[02:45] <hlpimfalling> go to your sessions settings
[02:45] <jojo> hello. i'm configuring xorg, cose i've just installed the flgrx drivers for a Radeon 9200se. It is an agp card an yet the setup says"PCI:1:0:0". is that correct ?
[02:45] <thirso> ok my usplash isnt working and i cant remove it cause it will also remove ubuntu-desktop, what can i do?
[02:45] <hlpimfalling> jojo that sounds fine
[02:45] <polis> ||Chris||: your cddrive is IDE?
[02:45] <thoreauputic> marcin: the problem is more likely to be "which php package are you installing?" - there are many of them
[02:45] <||Chris||> http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ - im looking there, md5sum.gpg or just md5sum>
[02:45] <jojo> hlpimfalling, so agp is taken into account, right ? thx.
[02:46] <bob2> jojo: you can just leave it blank, too
[02:46] <thoreauputic> marcin:  apt-cache search php scrolls off the page ....
[02:46] <hlpimfalling> just try it, if it doesnt work you will have to type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup xorg.conf
[02:46] <hlpimfalling> thats if you back it up
[02:46] <hlpimfalling> sounds like you used easy ubuntu though
[02:46] <jojo> hlpimfalling, that's supposing i made a backup ;)
[02:46] <jojo> ok thx.
[02:46] <hlpimfalling> yup
[02:46] <||Chris||> yes its ide i think
[02:47] <hlpimfalling> so does anyone have any information on my problem...
[02:47] <polis> ||Chris||:  are you on windows now?
[02:47] <||Chris||> yes
[02:47] <polis> ||Chris||: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html
[02:47] <polis> redi it
[02:47] <polis> read
[02:47] <polis> there is md5sum checker for win
[02:47] <hlpimfalling> yes
[02:47] <hlpimfalling> there are many
[02:47] <||Chris||> thanks
[02:48] <hlpimfalling> cant remember the names but a quick google should find them
[02:48] <bob2> hlpimfalling: disable apic, acpi and lapic and see if it helps
[02:48] <G2> anyone install open-xchange on ubuntu-server?
[02:48] <Gourami> can anyone help me to find out why my installation is running so incredibly slow ?
[02:48] <hlpimfalling> Bob2 its interesting because it works fine when I disable the onbaord sound in the bios
[02:49] <thirso> !usplash
[02:49] <ubotu> methinks usplash is for your information, about Usplash : if you use a home-built kernel, required options are initramfs & framebuffer, that's all ... don't take any prerequisites used for bootsplash or patches in consideration
[02:50] <hlpimfalling> ok well thanks anyways
[02:50] <hlpimfalling> gtg
[02:50] <hlpimfalling> bye
[02:50] <thirso> where can i download an usplash picture?
[02:50] <aftertaf> Gourami:  have you installed the corect kernel for your processor type?*
[02:51] <Gourami> aftertaf I installed directly from the installation cd I dont know
[02:51] <aftertaf> Gourami:  what is your processor type? and how much mem do you have?
[02:52] <Gourami> aftertaf mem is 256 and cpu 1.7 intel celeron
[02:52] <||Chris||> polis the md5sums are the same
[02:52] <electron> hi, i've install samba, but how do I set it up?
[02:52] <Gourami> aftertaf hoary worked perfectly on the same system
[02:52] <bob2> electron: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:52] <IceBreak> i'm running 5.10 on a laptop with 600mhz celeron and 192mb of ram :)
[02:54] <Gourami> is there such a thing as device manager which will show if there is a driver issue ?
[02:54] <thoreauputic> Gourami: have you run "top" in a terminal to see if a rogue process is eating your resources ?
[02:54] <bob2> the device manager is basically of no use
[02:54] <bob2> just ignore it
[02:54] <polis> ||Chris||: at what speed have you writen iso?
[02:55] <Gourami> thoreauputic top give me only 2 active with max of 7% usage
[02:55] <thoreauputic> Gourami: so is the slowness in th eresponse of X / gnome or similar?
[02:55] <Gourami> thoreauputic although as soon as I run anything cup jumps to 100% and stays there till app is run
[02:56] <iceman> ok, i do not see a app to install themes in kde, got several from kde-look, but where do you put them
[02:56] <||Chris||> polis 4x
[02:56] <Gourami> thoreauputic it seems to affect everything even browsing applications menu or loading any app even mouse movement from time to time
[02:57] <||Chris||> shall i try 2x?
[02:58] <polis> ||Chris||:  ok then check in you bios that your ccddrive shoud be mounted as cd-rom and not auto
[02:58] <thoreauputic> Gourami: your description could fit quite a few possibiliies - I don't know what in particular would be causing it - perhaps you need to dig into looking a t what processes are running and see if you have something in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[02:58] <||Chris||> ok
[02:59] <||Chris||> ill check
[02:59] <||Chris||> brb
[02:59] <thoreauputic> Gourami: also do th e same things happen if you create a new user and run a session as that user?
[02:59] <iceman> where the hell do you install KDE theme from kde-look ...
[03:00] <Gourami> thoreauputic have only used as root
[03:00] <iceman> there not *.kcsrc files ...
[03:00] <marcin> thoreauputic: I dind't ask for php manual -> man
[03:00] <thoreauputic> Gourami: umm - you should *not* run X as root
[03:00] <marcin> thoreauputic: php manual is available on pl.php.net in documentation section in various formats such as html or pdf
[03:00] <thoreauputic> marcin: whatever - I was just trying to help
[03:01] <Gourami> thoreauputic root being user created at installation which is not root I guess
[03:01] <marcin> thoreauputic: sure
[03:01] <marcin> thoreauputic: and thanks
[03:01] <thoreauputic> Gourami: of course not - that's just your first user
[03:01] <marcin> thoreauputic: there is man php but it is just manual for php executable
[03:01] <thoreauputic> marcin: np - good luck :)
[03:01] <BluesRocker> how can I use nvidia tv out with program nvtv?
[03:02] <marcin> thoreauputic: php manual from their website contains full documentation for all php functions and modules
[03:02] <marcin> thoreauputic: unfortunately this documentation is available under php fundation licence
[03:02] <thoreauputic> marcin: ah - looks like you found what you wanted then :)
[03:02] <thoreauputic> oh
[03:03] <marcin> thoreauputic: and propably it is possible to create deb package with this documentation
[03:03] <thoreauputic> marcin: I would think there are lots of good docs on php on the web
[03:03] <Gourami> thoreauputic load average for past 15 minutes is 0.98, I suspect it to be graphics related how can I check ?
[03:03] <marcin> thoreauputic: but permission from PHP guys is required for distribution
[03:03] <bartp> hi
[03:03] <bob2> BluesRocker: the program really has no documentation?
[03:04] <BluesRocker> has, but i cant find anything useefull
[03:04] <marcin> thoreauputic: yes you are right but I want to integrate this php documentation as context sensitive hepl in emacs
[03:04] <marcin> thoreauputic: and this is why I thought that maybe it will be available in deb format
[03:05] <thoreauputic> Gourami: I'm no expert but if it's graphics related I would expect to see X up near the top of "top" if you follow me...
[03:05] <bob2> BluesRocker: and by that you mean...?
[03:07] <Gourami> should Xorg be constantly using 40-50% cpu ?
[03:07] <thoreauputic> Gourami: also maybe try a different window manager to see if it's gnome-related or whatever
[03:07] <thoreauputic> Gourami: no
[03:07] <orlowsks> Is there any how to for wireless nic cards, I have a NL-2511CD Plus and would like to get it working.
[03:07] <thoreauputic> Gourami: X using 40-50% is ridiculously high
[03:07] <polis> ||Chris||:  so the problem remained?
[03:07] <bob2> orlowsks: find out what chipset it has, first
[03:08] <Gourami> thoreauputic thats what im picking up now Xorg running user root with constant cpu usage
[03:08] <mino> ls
[03:08] <mino> list
[03:08] <mino> hi
[03:08] <opticalcircuit> hi
[03:08] <mino> i need help
[03:08] <thoreauputic> Gourami: even my ancient P200 only uses about 6-7% in total if it's just sitting doing nothing
[03:08] <mino> can something help me?
[03:09] <orlowsks> How do I find the chipset manufacture
[03:09] <Gourami> thoreauputic where would I find the error file u mentioned earlier ?
[03:09] <iiiears> lspci usually gives hints
[03:09] <||Chris||> polis, it still didnt work on cd/dvd instead of auto
[03:09] <orlowsks> Sorry I'm a newbie when it comes to wireless
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Gourami: in your home directory
[03:09] <mino> i install now ubuntu 5.10
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Gourami: .xsession-errors (note the dot)
[03:09] <mino> but i don't know what is de pass for superuser
[03:10] <polis> ||Chris||:  this is also for you http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80226
[03:10] <iiiears> in a terminal  "lspci"   lists devices
[03:10] <polis> may be this could help
[03:10] <mino> and it doesn't tell me
[03:10] <thoreauputic> !tell mino about root
[03:10] <thoreauputic> mino: read the message ubotu sent you
[03:10] <mino> thnx
[03:10] <||Chris||> cheers polis im reding it
[03:11] <iiiears> newb question what is modprobe.conf ?   how do i know what modules are included in my kernel?
[03:11] <||Chris||> by the way install stops at: "retrieving libc6-udeb" 20%
[03:11] <IceBreak> how can i do a test if my sound card works ok or not ? it shows on alsamixer, and i can do stuff there, but i dont think it makes any sound....
[03:12] <polis> ||Chris||:  then it could be problem with CD, try to reburn it
[03:12] <thoreauputic> IceBreak: play a CD ?
[03:12] <monirith> i spasse koi la
[03:12] <iiiears> IceBreak - has it worked before in linux? - is it muted?
[03:12] <aeon17x> There's nothing particularly fatal with this statement in my xorg.conf file, right? -- ubuntu NVIDIA Corporation NV40? [Unknown nVidia Card] 
[03:12] <IceBreak> not muted
[03:12] <||Chris||> tried that before, no luck
[03:12] <||Chris||> ill try and find a different one
[03:13] <polis> ||Chris||:  hmm and could you repaet waht error it said
[03:13] <sven-tek__> anyone got flash to work in breezy? are there backports or something to use?
[03:13] <||Chris||> "retrieving libc6-udeb" 20%
[03:13] <IceBreak> i put a cd and press play, and the soudn juicer is stuck....
[03:14] <iiiears> sven-tek__, flash works
[03:14] <aeon17x> Anyone?
[03:14] <thoreauputic> sven-tek__: if yu mean the flash plugin, yes it's working here
[03:14] <thoreauputic> *you
[03:14] <sven-tek__> iiiears, it crashes here by default
[03:14] <polis> ||Chris||: ok, then try to find another CD, and read the last link i gave you
[03:14] <||Chris||> ok
[03:14] <||Chris||> i have a new cd-rw
[03:14] <polis> it could help if you`ll had other problems
[03:14] <polis> :)
[03:14] <polis> good
[03:14] <defcon8> why didnt you get a dvd writer man
[03:15] <||Chris||> burning/reading now :)
[03:15] <polis> ok
[03:16] <iiiears> thoreauputic - You taught me a little something about linux. What you didn't say was the more i know the more i want/need to know. - grin
[03:16] <Gourami> thoreauputic cant seem to get a browser open to paste here ubuntulinux.nl
[03:17] <thoreauputic> iiiears: heh - the addiction is permanent I'm afraid ;-)
[03:17] <iiiears> thoreauputic, - wide grin
[03:18] <iiiears> << Reading russian info on my TV Card - lol
[03:19] <thoreauputic> Gourami: hmm - you can install a lightweight browser perhaps: dillo or even links2 ( links2 -g will run it graphically) or use w3m... even lynx
[03:19] <defcon8> graphical links?
[03:19] <defcon8> cool!
[03:19] <iiiears> surprisingly the commands are in english pretty easy to follow along with the examples.
[03:19] <alex_2> hi
[03:19] <Gourami> thoreauputic taking me this long to get a browser & editor up to pate .errors file I think there is something in there
[03:19] <thoreauputic> defcon8: yes - you run links2 with the -g command option
[03:19] <||Chris||> thanks polis ive read it, sort of understand most, thats what ill try if this disc doesnt work ... after that ill try the dvd version.
[03:20] <tennyi> hi
[03:20] <tennyi> anyone there ??
[03:20] <thoreauputic> Gourami: sounds like the install is borked, frankly
[03:20] <thoreauputic> Gourami: did you upgrade or is it a fresh install ?
[03:20] <Gourami> thoreauputic fresh
[03:20] <tennyi> i am using live cd. how do i mount my harddisk ??
[03:20] <thoreauputic> Gourami: hmm
[03:21] <sven-tek__> nope, if i use "sudo sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" firefox crashes after moving away from a flash site
[03:21] <thoreauputic> tennyi:  sudo mount /dev/hdaX /mnt  where X is the partition you need
[03:21] <tennyi> if i try to use mount -t fat32 /dev/hda1 ... it says only root can do it
[03:21] <Gourami> thoreauputic ok got it pasted
[03:21] <thoreauputic> tennyi: use sudo
[03:22] <thoreauputic> tennyi: on th elive Cd it won't ask for a password
[03:22] <tennyi> oh.. ok man. thanks. will try it and come back..
[03:23] <sven-tek__> oh cool, flash works in epiphany, at least something i can work with
[03:23] <thoreauputic> tennyi: also your mount syntax is wrong
[03:23] <tennyi> why so ?
[03:23] <Gourami> thoreauputic http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3650
[03:23] <thoreauputic> tennyi:  mount -t filesystemtype /dev/foo /mount/point
[03:23] <alex_2> small qeustion: is there a way to change refresh rate in tty?
[03:23] <tennyi> ya .. thats what....   mount -t fat32 /dev/hda1
[03:24] <thoreauputic> tennyi: e.g.  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt
[03:24] <thoreauputic> tennyi: no mount point in your command
[03:24] <tennyi> ohh...
[03:24] <tennyi> whats a mount point :(
[03:24] <IceBreak> where you want your drive to be mounted to
[03:24] <tennyi> what do  i give there
[03:25] <tennyi> shall i create a directory
[03:25] <thoreauputic> tennyi: the folder you want to find the content in :)
[03:25] <tennyi> and give that ?
[03:25] <IceBreak> yes
[03:25] <thoreauputic> tennyi: use  /mnt
[03:25] <IceBreak> it's a normal convention to make those dirs in /mnt
[03:25] <thoreauputic> tennyi: that's already there
[03:25] <tennyi> oooh.. ok ok thanks man :) love ya
[03:25] <thoreauputic> or /media
[03:25] <thoreauputic> Gourami: sorry hang on a bit ;)
[03:26] <yme> bigcx2:I didn't get tinternet working...  but I reinstalled and it worked like a peach
[03:26] <yme> :$
[03:26] <yme> bigcx2: Sry, it's waime here....
[03:26] <Gourami> thoreauputic no prob I understand
[03:28] <skullzBOFH> we
[03:28] <thoreauputic> Gourami: I don't really understand that output to be honest - maybe someone else can help
[03:28] <Gourami> thoreauputic ok u suggest reinstall ? theres nothing on the machine so theres no issue there
[03:28] <thoreauputic> Gourami: just a shot in th edark: is your loopback enabled in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:29] <selinium> hi thoreauputic , long time no see! :)
[03:29] <Gourami> thoreauputic not sure, how do I check, network is working fine, also slow performance if I dont connect to network
[03:29] <thoreauputic> selinium: yeah, reality keeps getting in  the way of IRC ;-)
[03:30] <rysiek> hello
[03:30] <yme> hi all - can someone please remind me where the ubuntu wiki is with the repo list?
[03:30] <rysiek> does anybody know how to resize a film in gmplayer?
[03:30] <selinium> thoreauputic, Shame, we've missed ya!
[03:30] <thoreauputic> Gourami: see if you have a line like "iface lo inet loopback"  in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:30] <selinium> ubotu tell yme about repos
[03:31] <Gourami> thoreauputic ok checking
[03:31] <thoreauputic> Gourami: and see if your hostname is properly set in /etc/hosts
[03:31] <selinium> yme, you got that?
[03:31] <rysiek> once again ;) does anybody know how to resize a film in gmplayer?
[03:32] <yme> selinium: yes, thanks... how do you do that?
[03:32] <thoreauputic> Gourami: in /etc/hosts there should be a line like " 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost prospero
[03:32] <thoreauputic>  " (prospero is th ename I gave this box - yours will differ) But this is unlikely to be the issue since you said X was using 40-50% of your resources
[03:33] <pl3c3b0> does anyone know how to force a change in screen size?
[03:33] <pl3c3b0> and resolution
[03:34] <selinium> yme, do you know about ubotu? It is the channel bot. It has lots of info stored, if you want to ask it a question type /msg ubotu <question>
[03:34] <pl3c3b0> please?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> rysiek: I seem to recall an option called "zoom" in the mplayer config that did it for me (I use totem-xine now mostly)
[03:34] <yme> selinium: Thanks...
[03:34] <selinium> pl3c3b0, What is the prob? system/prefs/screen resolution
[03:35] <iiiears> !resolution
[03:35] <ubotu> resolution is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:35] <Gourami> thoreauputic ok interfaces contains iface lo inet loopback
[03:35] <thoreauputic> Gourami: OK
[03:35] <pluffsy> has a lot of folks had problems trying to upgrade to breezy?
[03:35] <thoreauputic> Gourami:  less /etc/hosts to see if your host is configured
[03:36] <ben__> Hey, I'm getting very slow boottimes...on 'configuring network interface' ...
[03:36] <ben__> I guess because I am booting w/o a connection?  How do I fix it though
[03:36] <thoreauputic> Gourami: but this may be the wrong direction - are you using an ATI card or something like that? Are your drivers right for your vid card?
[03:37] <topyli> ahh. on irc again.. i love this stupid phone :-)
[03:37] <Gourami> thoreauputic intel on board
[03:37] <rob_p> ben__:  Disable that interface until you need it.
[03:37] <rysiek> thoreauputic: hmmm when I zoom, I get a bigger window... but the image size stays the same (surrounded by a huge amount of black)
[03:37] <thoreauputic> Gourami: and it worked fine on hoary, right?
[03:37] <Gourami> thoreauputic yes no problems with hoary
[03:37] <rob_p> ben__:  That or else set a static IP for it.
[03:38] <thoreauputic> rysiek: I'll be frank - I prefer totem-xine - I know mplayer is powerful and a good player, but it can be a pain to configure
[03:38] <ben__> rob_p,  it always seems to enable itself on boot
[03:38] <rysiek> thoreauputic: ok, tryin' totem-xine :)
[03:38] <electron> root@guardian:/home # /etc/init.d/samba start
[03:38] <electron>  * Starting Samba daemons..                                                                                            [fail] 
[03:38] <rob_p> ben__:  Then it hasn't been disabled.
[03:39] <Gourami> thoreauputic ok hosts contains 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
[03:39] <deeler> ben__, remove auto eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces
[03:39] <thoreauputic> rysiek: here it works with everything - your mileage may vary
[03:39] <tiefox> is ubuntu capable of reading and writing to ntfs partitions ?
[03:39] <thoreauputic> Gourami: ah - what is the name of the box?
[03:39] <ben__> deeler,  thanks...will that disconnect me now though if i do it or just affect the boot?
[03:39] <thoreauputic> Gourami: there should be a name at the end as well
[03:39] <deeler> just at boot
[03:39] <iiiears> ntfs captive project has a driver tht works
[03:39] <rob_p> ben__:  System --> Administration --> Networking
[03:40] <Gourami> thoreauputic callcentre 200 which is at the end of 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
[03:40] <deeler> ben__, what connection do you have?
[03:40] <Gourami> thoreauputic callcentre200 (no space)
[03:40] <thoreauputic> Gourami: ah OK if it's there then that seems normal
[03:40] <ben__> deeler: right now I'm on wirelesss
[03:40] <iiiears> tiefox, - you use windows drivers encapsualted by linux wrappers for ntfs  write support.
[03:40] <thoreauputic> Gourami: I'm running out of wild guesses ;)
[03:40] <Gourami> thoreauputic k looks im gonna do a new install
[03:41] <rob^^^> ok, easy question! How do you make the system logger keep back weeks as well as back months and days
[03:41] <ben__> rob_p,  network settings says eth0 is 'not active'
[03:41] <rob^^^> err weeks and months as well as days
[03:41] <Gourami> thoreauputic thanks for the help
[03:41] <rob_p> ben__:  Then edit your /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:41] <thoreauputic> OK nearly midnight here- time to sleep :)
[03:41] <thoreauputic> Gourami: good luck :)
[03:42] <rob_p> ben__:  Do as deeler suggested and comment out auto ethX for that interface
[03:42] <aeon17x> thoreauputic, is this bad? --> NVIDIA Corporation NV40? [Unknown nVidia Card] 
[03:42] <ben__> rob_p,  comment out "auto ath0" ?
[03:42] <thoreauputic> aeon17x: I don't know
[03:42] <thoreauputic> goodnight all !
[03:43] <aeon17x> Good night to ya.
[03:43] <rob_p> ben__:  Is that the interface that isn't being used?
[03:43] <rysiek> thoreauputic: ok, just tell me how to load the subtitles and I'm happy :] 
[03:43] <aeon17x> *sigh*
[03:43] <yme> night night
[03:43] <aeon17x> rysiek: VLC media player could do it.
[03:43] <aeon17x> (I think).
[03:43] <ben__> rob_p: I am using it currently but on boot it doesnt get internet connectivity because I need to connect to a vpn network first
[03:44] <deeLer> ben__, do a ifconfig, identify which interface has the ip your on , comment that interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:44] <rob_p> ben__:  Oh.  I see.  Well then you can manually bring up the interface
[03:44] <ben__> rob_p,  the one i'm not using currently is the ethernet card which is eth0
[03:44] <ben__> should I comment out iface eth0 inet dhcp
[03:44] <deeLer> on wireless . .. ???
[03:45] <rob_p> ben__:  You can comment out the auto eth0 and it won't come up automatically.  Then you can ifup eth0 once you are ready to bring it up.
[03:45] <deeLer> no ben__ just auto eth0
[03:45] <rysiek> aeon17x: ehhhh... another player to test ;)
[03:45] <denmax> hi ..
[03:45] <rob_p> ben__:  Not if you are relying on DHCP for an address!
[03:45] <ben__> is ifup eth0 just the command to activate it , same as from network settings?
[03:45] <ben__> haha ok rob
[03:46] <denmax> i am using live cd. and i am not able to mount my harddisk. can someone help ?
[03:46] <deeLer> ifup eth0 will start a dhcp client too in your case
[03:46] <ben__> # = comment line? i was about to do // and realized its not C++ hehe
[03:46] <deeLer> denmax: scsi or ide ?
[03:46] <denmax> ide
[03:46] <linkd> does it appear in /dev?
[03:46] <deeLer> mkdir /mnt/test
[03:46] <denmax> i dunno .. how to chk that
[03:46] <deeLer> mount -t vfat /dev/hda /mnt/test
[03:47] <deeLer> wild guess
[03:47] <deeLer> :)
[03:47] <Jejjo> hi
[03:47] <denmax> ok . i'll try that
[03:47] <ben__> I havent booted windows since I installed ubuntu on my laptop...i might just go ahead and get rid of my ntfs partition...haha
[03:47] <linkd> hehe
[03:48] <linkd> having a few large FAT partitions is what u wanna do if u have a dual boots :P
[03:48] <ben__> why?
[03:48] <linkd> both systems can use them
[03:48] <rysiek> aeon17x: ok, how to load the subs in VLC player then? :)
[03:48] <ben__> yeh but I have no reason to need that
[03:48] <ben__> and I have my ntfs partition mounted anyway...have no trouble accessing files on that
[03:48] <Hoxzer> rysiek: just open file and you can choose sub file for it
[03:48] <OneSeventeen> if I type in ifconfig > ifstatus.txt does this spit the results of ifconfig into the ifstatus.txt file?  (I've seen people do stuff like this all the time, but never really done it myself)
[03:49] <deeLer> OneSeventeen, yes
[03:49] <Jejjo> hi i have a problem: i stopped accidentaly my dist-upgrade pressing esc. i'm upgrading do breezy. now i'm asked to "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:49] <Jejjo> " what can i do?
[03:49] <Hoxzer> rysiek: file -> open file
[03:49] <denmax> i used that mount command ... and the cursor came to next line. there was no result
[03:49] <linkd> yea i know, but urs is only a dual boot in the sense its on ur drives, for a real dualboot - one where both systems are used regulary, having an exchange partition is essential
[03:49] <rysiek> Hoxzer: ok, I got it ;)
[03:49] <aeon17x> rysiek: hmm... I used to do it in Windows (eek! *dodges snowball), but I don't have it in my Ubuntu yet, so I can't remember. >_>
[03:49] <OneSeventeen> deeLer: If I then change stuff and type ifconfig > ifstatus.txt again, will it replace the contents, or add to the file?
[03:49] <Enquest> Could somebody explain me why the pdf won't load in IE, see my code snipit http://pastebin.com/406467
[03:49] <deeLer> OneSeventeen, it will, >> will append
[03:49] <deeLer> just try it
[03:50] <linkd> in IE? on ubuntu...?
[03:50] <OneSeventeen> cool, thanks
[03:50] <deeLer> OneSeventeen, np
[03:50] <ben__> the only reason i need to keep windows right now is for my mathematica assignments...but im looking if they have a linux version now
[03:50] <Enquest> I'm on ubuntu but people on Windows complain the pdf won't automatically open the pdf
[03:50] <linkd> ok
[03:50] <Enquest> sorry wrong channel
[03:50] <linkd> indeed
[03:50] <linkd> :P
[03:51] <Enquest> lol
[03:51] <denmax> hey linkd
[03:51] <Jejjo> anyone can help?
[03:51] <_kemik> OneSeventeen: but beware ">" overwrites files aswell.. ">>" appends
[03:51] <denmax> can u help me out with that mounting thind
[03:51] <linkd> hell denmax
[03:51] <Enquest> ben__ i believe something like AIR can help you
[03:51] <ben__> Enquest, what is AIR?
[03:51] <OneSeventeen> A friend called stating PHP wouldn't install no matter what he tried, I asked him to cover the steps he took, and he described downloading an installer, double-clicking it, and following the on-screen instructions
[03:51] <deeLer> deeLer, opening attachments in  firefox gives an empty firefox window and the application for the attachment. How to get rid of the empty window ?
[03:51] <OneSeventeen> But IIS still doesn't recognize PHP
[03:51] <Enquest> ben__ a programe for maths and stats
[03:52] <Belutz> Jejjo, you want to continue upgrading?
[03:52] <Enquest> I never used it but I heard about it
[03:52] <OneSeventeen> I told him "apt-get install PHP" but then realized he was using Windows...
[03:52] <Jejjo> belutz yes
[03:52] <Jejjo> i do
[03:52] <ben__> Enquest, is it in synaptic?
[03:52] <Belutz> Jejjo, try run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again
[03:52] <aeon17x> I've been asking this the whole day... there's nothing too wrong with this, right? --> NVIDIA Corporation NV40? [Unknown nVidia Card] 
[03:52] <Enquest> No idea
[03:52] <denmax> can anyone help me out with that mounting thing
[03:53] <Enquest> denmax, whats the problem
[03:53] <linkd> denmax: what drives do you have in /dev, by that i mean like ls -l /dev | grep hd
[03:53] <deeLer> denmax, is your partition fat32 ?
[03:53] <aeon17x> I'm kinda scared my Linux might crash because of that.
[03:53] <Jejjo> belutz it gives me the answer : E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:53] <denmax> yes dat32
[03:53] <denmax> fat32
[03:53] <deeLer> mount -t vfat /dev/hda /mnt/test
[03:53] <denmax> i tried that
[03:53] <ben__> Enquest, any advice on where to find it then...searching for "air" is only slightly vague ;)
[03:53] <denmax> it says fat32 is unknown type
[03:53] <Jejjo> belutz, but if i give the command it doesn't work
[03:54] <Enquest> don't forget to make /mnt/test demax
[03:54] <linkd> hmm
[03:54] <denmax> ok waiot
[03:54] <deeLer> hda might also be hdb, hdc ... depending on the slave/master/ide1/ide2 cable
[03:54] <Belutz> Jejjo, then run it, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:54] <deeLer> do an fdisk -l to make sure
[03:54] <Enquest> I know sorry ben__ somebody told me about it.. More I do not know... He said thanks to AIR I finaly can go 100% to GNU/linux
[03:54] <Enquest> I'm not intrested in AIR
[03:54] <ben__> Enquest, hmm ok...well ill see what google does with AIr and linux
[03:55] <Enquest> good luck
[03:55] <denmax> when i try to create /mnt/test using mkdir. it says permission denied.  i am using live cd
[03:55] <linkd> ah!
[03:55] <linkd> u need to sudo whilst doing the commands
[03:55] <denmax> ok...
[03:55] <linkd> sudo mkdir /mnt/test
[03:55] <Jejjo> Belutz, ups! now it workS! i have tryed it 20 times before and now it worked! thank's anyway
[03:55] <Belutz> Jejjo, great :)
[03:56] <Jejjo> belutz, tnks! :)
[03:56] <deeLer> denmax, su root
[03:56] <ben__> hmm no luck...so far
[03:56] <Belutz> Jejjo, no worries mate
[03:56] <denmax> ohh.
[03:57] <mino> excuseme , i have a partition to exchange files with the another partition with Win XP . Ubunt dectect this partition and it show me in desktop but i want open a file in some program i don't know where to find it
[03:57] <deeLer> example mino
[03:57] <pluffsy> hi
[03:57] <Jejjo> Belutz, final question i got this msg after dist-upgrade finished: Errors were encountered while processing: ubuntu-base.   think is a big ploblem?
[03:57] <deeLer> hi
[03:58] <mino> in amsn i want to open a photo that i its in the other partition but when i find it i don't where is it
[03:58] <Belutz> Jejjo, after dist upgrade finish, run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[03:59] <mino> but in the desktop i see hda2
[03:59] <pluffsy> I'm trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy. I'm replacing hoary with breezy in the reps, I had one called hoary-extras but when synaptic tried to reload the lists with breezy it couldn't find breezy-extras. am I doing something wrong?
[03:59] <deeLer> mino, do a df to see where partitions are mounted
[03:59] <ben__> I have another question...i installed the drivers for my video card in synaptic...how do I configure hardware acceleration now
[03:59] <deeLer> mino , prolly /mnt/hda2
[03:59] <mino> thnx
[03:59] <deeLer> np
[03:59] <mino> i new in ubuntu...
[03:59] <mino> jeje
[03:59] <mino> hehehe
[04:00] <Kimppa> Hello. Could someone please help me, I'm having serious problems with apt-get. I cannot install/remove anything
[04:00] <deeLer> first distro mino?
[04:00] <Belutz> mino, so am i :)
[04:00] <linkd> Kimppa: errors?
[04:00] <_kemik> Kimppa: using sudo ?
[04:00] <mino> ubuntu mount it in /media/hda2 and it not mount where i hope, in /mnt/hda2
[04:00] <mino> no...
[04:00] <deeLer> voila
[04:00] <mino> i install anothers
[04:00] <_kemik> mino: edit your /etc/fstab
[04:00] <mino> fedora, debian
[04:00] <deeLer> mmmmmmmmmmmm debian :)
[04:00] <mojo__> hi every1
[04:01] <mojo__> i am just up to dapper
[04:01] <linkd> ubuntu is sexier debian
[04:01] <linkd> :P
[04:01] <mino> yes
[04:01] <mino> its more easy
[04:01] <mojo__> so breaky so far but fun, cmon ppl lets fly like dapper
[04:01] <mino> for instance , install programs its more easy with the installer
[04:02] <deeLer> hm ... synaptic runs on debian to if thats what u mean
[04:02] <Kimppa> linkd: when I try to install something, it says something about dependencies and that I should run -f install, but when I do that, I get a broken pipe error -> http://pastebin.com/406487
[04:02] <linkd> i just do most my work on the command line but with a pretty wallpaper
[04:02] <Kimppa> _kemik: yes, always
[04:02] <linkd> gotcha
[04:02] <deeLer> but nevertheless ubuntu is better over debian for hw detection , better stock kernels and strict release scheme
[04:02] <Jejjo> Belutz, i think i did't configure well my repositorys i get many errors
[04:02] <spacenine> I have hoary and unable to install azureus from apt-get. Do you guys have any sugestions?
[04:02] <linkd> i dont have a clue with that one sorry Kimppa, im sure someone else here will though
[04:03] <Kimppa> This hinders me from even upgrading to breezy, or doing anything at all
[04:03] <mojo__> spacenine: jre1.5 installed yet?
[04:03] <spacenine> I can not install jre either
[04:03] <deeLer> hinders?
[04:03] <Belutz> ubotu, tell Jejjo about sources
[04:03] <linkd> it means "stops" or "Makes it harder" deeLer
[04:03] <spacenine> I havea belive it could be my source.list
[04:03] <Kimppa> linkd: :/
[04:04] <deeLer> verhinderen?
[04:04] <Belutz> Jejjo, and please read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade :)
[04:04] <Kimppa> deeLer: look at the link I pasted, I cannot install/remove anything, I get always those errors
[04:04] <spacenine> when I am trying to install azureus I get E: Couldn't find package azureus
[04:05] <Jejjo> belutz tnks you're great :D
[04:05] <Belutz> Jejjo, you're welcome, and i'm not great :D
[04:05] <linkd> heh
[04:05] <deeLer> uninstall the xlibmesa
[04:05] <Belutz> Jejjo, ubuntu developers are great :)
[04:06] <linkd> and those that fund the ubuntu developers :P
[04:06] <iiiears> FM Tuner "Cannot open /dev/radio"   nothing called "radio" in /dev    What is the next step?
[04:06] <Jejjo> belutz, yes they are! do you think it's easy to install microsoft access under wine?
[04:06] <Kimppa> deeLer: http://pastebin.com/406493
[04:06] <Belutz> Jejjo, hmm don't know about that
[04:07] <Jejjo> belutz oky thanks!
[04:07] <Belutz> :)
[04:08] <deeLer> Kimppa, uninstall the xlibmesa
[04:08] <Kimppa> deeLer: if you open the link I just pasted, you will see what happened when I tried to do that
[04:09] <deeLer> oh, sorry Kimppa , old clipboard data:)
[04:09] <linkd> Kimppa: i have an idea
[04:10] <Kimppa> linkd: please do share, I'm ready to try anything before I have to do a clean reinstall
[04:10] <linkd> might not work, but try dpkg -i --force-overwrite xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10.1_i386.deb
[04:10] <deeLer> Kimppa,  apt tries to upgrade the xlibmesa
[04:10] <zkl-laptop> hoorah for language selector!
[04:10] <deeLer> uninstall completely
[04:12] <Whistler> i installed game using run file.How can i remove it now?
[04:12] <Kimppa> linkd: didn't help -> http://pastebin.com/406504
[04:13] <ben__> Whats the best program to scan the area for availible wifi connections and stats?
[04:13] <ben__> btw i just rebooted and it was much faster :)
[04:13] <linkd> then i think you need to go thru and work out which order they need to be installed in to stop the dependancy problem
[04:13] <Whistler> i installed game using run file.How can i remove it now?
[04:13] <loki35> Do you know an aplication like Tera Term for Linux
[04:13] <loki35> ?
[04:14] <robotgeek> loki35: what does that do?
[04:14] <bur[n] er> loki35: ssh
[04:14] <bur[n] er> Tera Term == ssh client
[04:15] <Kimppa> linkd: ok, thank you
[04:15] <robotgeek> bur[n] er: ty
[04:15] <Whistler> can anybody help me?
[04:15] <linkd> like use apt-get -d install package name to just download all the packages, then dpkg -i them one by one. sorry i couldnt help more
[04:16] <bur[n] er> robotgeek: ssh -l username -X hostname.com  <--- man ssh will tell you more
[04:16] <shawarma> Whistler: If you installed it that way, there's no simple way to remove it.
[04:16] <robotgeek> bur[n] er: i know that, i did not know about terra term
[04:16] <shawarma> Whistler: You're dependent on the game having an uninstaller.
[04:16] <robotgeek> ben__: try network-manager, it's pretty neat. if it works for you, that is :)
[04:16] <bur[n] er> robotgeek: aww, forgot it was loki35 who asked ;)
[04:16] <bur[n] er> hehe, sorry
[04:17] <z|bandito> how do you enable sshd in breezy?
[04:17] <djib> I have no sound in flash animations in Firefox ?
[04:17] <z|bandito> just apt-get install sshd?
[04:18] <djib> I read the wiki but the two things don't work for me
[04:18] <djib> what shall I do ?
[04:18] <linkd> djib: what two things?
[04:18] <robotgeek> djib: lemme pull up a link, 1 sec
[04:18] <iiiears> What is the next step to add /dev/radio to devices?   radio    isn't in /dev/
[04:18] <_jason> what does %u after a command do?  And where could I find a list of all of the possibilities? (for example the gnome shrotcut for firefox is "firefox %u)
[04:19] <djib> linkd, the two things on that page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Flash
[04:19] <robotgeek> _jason: i belive that's for url
[04:19] <djib> robotgeek, ok
[04:19] <linkd> ok
[04:19] <_jason> robotgeek:  thanks
[04:19] <z|bandito> it's not for 'user' ?
[04:20] <robotgeek> djib: i don't run flash, but here is a link that might help you. non-wiki, YMMV. http://roel.wordpress.com/2005/10/19/fix-sound-for-flash-on-ubuntu/
[04:21] <djib> ok I'll try
[04:23] <ben__> Im trying to save a config file in gedit into my vpnc folder and its saying I can't...is it a permissions thing?
[04:23] <Whistler> how can i remove a directory?
[04:23] <Whistler> using terminal
[04:23] <Crasp> rm -r
[04:23] <iiiears> ben__ gksudo will give gedit super root powers "gksudo gedit"
[04:23] <[Spooky] > ben_d: have you sudo gedit ?
[04:23] <Belutz> Whistler, using mv
[04:24] <Belutz> Whistler, oh remove, sorry
[04:25] <morphix> :|
[04:25] <cosimo321> Hello all
[04:25] <morphix> perl doesnt work with apache.. anyone got any ideas why
[04:25] <OneSeventeen> I have a static IP, but I used to have a dynamic one, so dhclient is still running in the background giving me a new dynamic IP each time the old one expires.... how do I stop dhclient from doing this?
[04:25] <cosimo321> I have a dumb question how does one get onto the jabber network with gaim I have tried and keep getting dissconnected with unauthorized
[04:28] <rob_p> OneSeventeen:  Get rid of, "iface ethx inet dhcp" from the interface configuration and replace that line with, "iface ethx inet static" with x being the interface number.
[04:28] <rob_p> OneSeventeen:  The file of interest would be /etc/network/interfaces...
[04:29] <gila_> where can I change the way modules and what modules get loaded with the stock ubuntu kernel
[04:29] <OneSeventeen> rob_p, my internet configuration is set for static, and has been for the past few days, but each night around 9 or 10 the server realizes the dynamic IP has expired, then it gets a new one, in spite of the /etc/network/interfaces file
[04:30] <OneSeventeen> Here's my ifconfig before and after a /etc/init.d/networking restart: http://pastebin.com/406517
[04:31] <rob_p> OneSeventeen:  Paste your /etc/network/interfaces file.
[04:33] <OneSeventeen> Here's my /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastebin.com/406526
[04:34] <OneSeventeen> (the IP, netmask, and gateway were given by our IT department)
[04:34] <morphix> remove the auto eth1?
[04:34] <rob_p> morphix:  Not if he wants the interface to come up automatically.
[04:35] <ben__> Hi...why cant I find a command to disconnect or restart vpnc? I did vpnc--long-help and dont see anything
[04:35] <rob_p> OneSeventeen:  So if you do a, "/etc/init.d/networking restart", does it come up right away with the correct IP?
[04:35] <kevinz> mouse is OK but i feel the touchpad of my laptop is too sensitive. what can i do
[04:35] <Paradosso> hi everybody
[04:35] <Paradosso> got an interesting matter here
[04:36] <Paradosso> trying to compile museek undre breezy
[04:36] <paulproteus> kevinz: GNOME has a mouse configuration thing from which you can control acceleration and sensitivity.
[04:36] <OneSeventeen> rob_p yes it does, in this thread [ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=444624#post444382 ]  someone mentioned dhclient refreshing old dynamic IP addresses
[04:36] <paulproteus> System -> Desktop preferences -> Mouse, iirc.
[04:37] <Paradosso> error is described here: http://forums.slsknet.org/ipb/index.php?showtopic=4675
[04:37] <kevinz> paulproteus: but will it also affect my mouse which i feel is now working properly.
[04:37] <OneSeventeen> and if I run pgrep dhclient it returns a process number, meaning dhclient is still active and is still giving my server a dynamic IP when the old ones expire.
[04:37] <hernando> how to play mp3 and mpg files in ubuntu?
[04:37] <paulproteus> kevinz: Oh, right.
[04:37] <rob_p> OneSeventeen:  Do a, "ps aux | grep dhclient | grep -v grep" and see if you have a dhclient process running.
[04:38] <ben__> does anyone know how I can restart or disconnect the vpnc once its running in the background
[04:38] <hernando> anyone knows how to play mp3 and mpg files in ubuntu?
[04:38] <paulproteus> Paradosso: Hold on a sec, let me investigate this.
[04:38] <NoUse> !tell hernando about mp3
[04:38] <linkd> there is a FAW on that. hold on hernando ill get it u
[04:39] <hernando> ok
[04:39] <linkd> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-09-16.3469703387
[04:39] <Paradosso> ok paulproteus
[04:39] <linkd> note: ubuntulinux.oprg != offical ubuntu site. but thats how i did it
[04:39] <hernando> will review
[04:40] <sgtnasty> I have aquestion about ulive
[04:40] <hernando> yestaerday i go to wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats but don't work
[04:40] <andres> is there a howto for drivers setup ?
[04:40] <paulproteus> Paradosso: Do you have build-essential installed?
[04:40] <linkd> there is that too
[04:40] <Paradosso> paulproteus, check this out too: http://thegraveyard.org/daelstorm/museekfaq.php
[04:40] <paulproteus> andres: It varies from driver to drive.
[04:40] <paulproteus> andres: It varies from driver to driver.
[04:40] <ben__> yeh andres im having trouble getting my video card working too...i installed all the dirvers though
[04:40] <Paradosso> build-essential is a package? lemme check
[04:40] <paulproteus> Paradosso: I was just reading that. :)
[04:41] <Samuli^> hey, anyone have an idea where i could get the w32codecs?
[04:41] <andres> im try to make a i915 video from intel to work
[04:41] <Paradosso> don't have build-essential
[04:41] <ben__> Sweet...got mathematica working in linux =] 
[04:41] <paulproteus> Paradosso: Install it.
[04:41] <ben__> i think thats al my software i need now
[04:42] <enyc> Samuli^: see  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:42] <paulproteus> Paradosso: If that makes the difference, email the museek guy and tell him to put that in the FAQ: "To compile this in Ubuntu, I had to install install build-essential."
[04:42] <OneSeventeen> is there anything special I need to do to connect to a non secured wireless network?  Secured connections with WEP keys work fine, but those without I can't seem to connect to
[04:42] <Samuli^> enyc, thanks.
[04:42] <ben__> is there a guide on getting a radeon video card's hardware acceleration running?
[04:42] <paulproteus> !ati
[04:42] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:43] <ben__> Thanks paul!
[04:43] <ben__> that first link to wiki isnt updated for breezer badgy
[04:43] <enyc> Samuli^: either use DEBs referenced there.... or... get the 'essential' codecs pack from mplayerhq and extract it yourself [/usr/lib/win32 iirc] 
[04:43] <sgtnasty> how do i store my session settings (bookmarks, etc) when using Live?
[04:44] <ben__> !laptop
[04:44] <ubotu> hmm... laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[04:44] <loki35> morphix did U try CGI ?
[04:44] <rob_p> OneSeventeen:  Don't specify a wireless-key in the applicable device entry in /etc/network/interfaces.  You can simply comment it out with a, "#" at the beginning if you like.
[04:45] <ben__> Hows this for a bug...I cant click on anything in the task bar...I need to alt tab between apps
[04:45] <andres> i get DRI divers can not be installed without hte latest kernel modules
[04:45] <paulproteus> What do people use for being able to select nearby wifi networks in the GUI?
[04:45] <ben__> i can click fine within an app
[04:45] <ben__> just not on the task bar
[04:45] <Paradosso> paulproteus, it works so far!
[04:46] <paulproteus> Paradosso: If it works out in the end, then I *urge* you to email the guy who wrote it with what I said.
[04:46] <paulproteus> That way, others can figure it out with asking me. :)
[04:46] <rob_p> ben__:  Do a, "killall gnome-panel" and it will reload and hopefully function normally.
[04:46] <hernando> there says that add debian-marillat to sources list, but don't talk about the ftp or what
[04:46] <Paradosso> Checking for iconv input type... char**
[04:46] <Paradosso> I definitely will paulproteus
[04:47] <Paradosso> however I've got quite a bit more issues with qt
[04:47] <Paradosso> Couldn't find Qt. Make sure the QTDIR environment variable is set, or
[04:47] <Paradosso> disable building of the Qt client by adding MUSEEQ=0 to the scons
[04:47] <Paradosso> commandline.
[04:47] <Paradosso> I'll workaround this
[04:47] <Paradosso> had the same in hoary
[04:48] <rob_p> ben__:  Any luck?
[04:48] <hernando> so if i do "sudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[04:48] <hernando> " he says that don't find package
[04:49] <linkd> which package?
[04:49] <paulproteus> Paradosso: install libqt3-mt-dev, iirc
[04:49] <hernando>  totem-xine gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> hernando, enabled multiverse ?
[04:49] <paulproteus> Paradosso: Once you're done, you should email the guy a list of Ubuntu packages required to compile his thing.
[04:49] <amarock> anyone here who used initng to reduce boot time and never faced any probs??
[04:50] <Paradosso> I've got libqt3mt-dev
[04:50] <linkd> hernando: all i did was add/uncomment the universe repository from sources.list then apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 support.. unless im confused about what ur trying to do
[04:50] <hernando> if download totem-xine from debian packages (version conflict with totem)
[04:50] <Paradosso> what's iirc? can't find it in the repositories
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> iirc is not a package ...
[04:51] <wpmegee> if i recall corectly
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> there you have it! iirc is not a package iirc
[04:51] <paulproteus> Paradosso: iirc means "if I recall correctly"
[04:52] <paulproteus> hernando: Eek, I don't suggest getting packages from Debian.
[04:52] <Paradosso> ah ok :)
[04:52] <linkd> iirc is also an old irc client
[04:52] <djjason> is anyone here using irssi
[04:52] <hernando> i know that, but then how to play mp3 filess?
[04:52] <linkd> djjason: me :P
[04:53] <jbroome> djjason: yeah
[04:53] <linkd> hernando: oh, i see
[04:53] <Paradosso> paulproteus I just think I have to set $QTDIR to include /usr/lib/qt3 path
[04:53] <linkd> i just used the native programs to check it worked
[04:53] <paulproteus> Paradosso: Okay.
[04:53] <djjason> linkd, I am having problems with the charset, i need to use ISO-8859-1 but the chars are all messed up
[04:53] <timo_> Hello ev1
[04:53] <linkd> like media player and such. then got other stuff once i checked
[04:53] <ben__> my task bar is broken =o
[04:53] <paulproteus> Email the developer and tell him you had to do that.  It's lame that it couldn't figure it out itself.
[04:53] <hernando> i have "w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb" how to add to the addons of totem?
[04:54] <djjason> linkd, I tried changing the recode_out_default_charset but it did not make a difference
[04:54] <Paradosso> I will e-mail hyriand
[04:54] <Paradosso> hopefully after I've resolved this
[04:54] <amarock> hernando: whr did u get it from?
[04:54] <timo_> I have the following problem
[04:54] <timo_> The following extra packages will be installed:
[04:54] <timo_>   ttf-baekmuk ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-kochi-mincho
[04:54] <timo_> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[04:54] <timo_>   ttf-baekmuk ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-kochi-mincho
[04:54] <timo_> 0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 114 not upgraded.
[04:54] <timo_> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[04:54] <paulproteus> timo_: What's the problem?  That looks fine.
[04:54] <amarock> can i get w32codecs etc. from debian marillat repo??
[04:55] <timo_> paulproteus, yeah... but it doesn't install
[04:55] <OneSeventeen> rob_p: sorry about the delay, each time I take out the WEP key and choose a network from the drop-down menu that doesn't use WEP, it just sits there for about 5 minutes or so then looks like it is connected (sends and receives tiny packets) but still no internet
[04:55] <hernando> that's mentioned on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-09-16.3469703387
[04:55] <aeon17x> timo_, what do you mean by 'it doesn't install'?
[04:55] <linkd> djjason: u changed the terminal charset?
[04:55] <Kuolio> amarock: yes you can, or you can also get them from mplayer's website and follow the install instruction
[04:55] <timo_> paulproteus, it says that CD is no good...
[04:55] <djjason> linkd, hmmm....that I might not have done
[04:56] <Samuli^> is it possible to have totem-xine play .rm files?
[04:56] <rob_p> OneSeventeen:  Hrmm.  Strange.  Don't know what to tell ya!
[04:56] <timo_> Unpacking ttf-baekmuk (from .../ttf-baekmuk_2.2-1ubuntu1_all.deb) ...
[04:56] <timo_> dpkg-deb (subprocess): error in buffer_read(stream): failed to write to pipe in copy: Input/output error
[04:56] <timo_> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2
[04:56] <timo_> dpkg: error processing /cdrom//pool/main/t/ttf-baekmuk/ttf-baekmuk_2.2-1ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):
[04:56] <timo_>  short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/share/fonts/truetype/baekmuk/batang.ttf')
[04:56] <hernando> or how to add the debian-marillat repository to your Ubuntu sources.list
[04:56] <Paradosso> hm paulproteus
[04:57] <Paradosso> I set QTDIR to /usr/lib/qt3
[04:57] <paulproteus> timo_: Are you out of hard drive space?
[04:57] <Seveas> timo_, stop pasting in here
[04:57] <Paradosso> it keeps saying me it can't find qt
[04:57] <Seveas> there are pastebins for that
[04:57] <paulproteus> timo_: If you had pasted in only the bottom line, "short read", or just the "input/output error" line, it would have been okay.
[04:57] <timo_> /dev/hda1              18G  1.8G   16G  11% /
[04:58] <Modi|ubuntu> hello
[04:58] <linkd> hernando: sorry, what are you doing?
[04:58] <Modi|ubuntu> i need a lil help getting to another irc room
[04:58] <paulproteus> Paradosso: Back in "the bad old days", one had to try doing ./configure --with-qt-headers and --with-qt-libraries .  Try those.
[04:58] <timo_> I have plenty of space
[04:58] <paulproteus> Modi|ubuntu: Type "/join #other_room".
[04:58] <Modi|ubuntu> its on another server
[04:59] <sgtnasty> (LIVE) how do i save my settings on a usb drive so on reboot i dont have to retype it all in again?
[04:59] <paulproteus> Modi|ubuntu: Then do "/server other.server.net"
[04:59] <Modi|ubuntu>  ahh thats it
[04:59] <Paradosso> paulproteus, museek builds through sconstruct, does your piece of advice applies the same?
[04:59] <Modi|ubuntu> thanks
[04:59] <ben__> Gotta got to go to class, thanks to everyone who gave me advice this morning, talk to you later
[04:59] <linkd> later ben__
[04:59] <paulproteus> Paradosso: I don't know about sconstruct.
[05:00] <dave_> please help
[05:00] <defcon8> how do i make the cvspass?
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> dave_, with ?
[05:01] <defcon8> please?
[05:01] <hosler> how can i get mplayer to be my default player instead of totem?
[05:01] <selinium> is there a flag for installing recommanded files in command line apt-get?
[05:01] <dave_> um tu nekdo esky??
[05:02] <dave_> soory i cant speak english ... :))
[05:02] <william_> hey I got a bunch of cds in the mail but they were all 5.04 i'm downloading the ISO of the newest one but does 5.04 come with any program I can burn ISO's with?
[05:02] <timo_> paulproteus, so what you think?
[05:03] <dave_> password from super user please help . :((
[05:03] <Whistler> william_ nope you have to install it manually
[05:03] <timo_> paulproteus, how can i update those packages from Internet?
[05:03] <Seveas> !tell dave_ about root
[05:03] <william_> whats the name of the program?
[05:03] <hosler> how can i get mplayer to be my default player instead of totem?
[05:03] <bintut>  how can i enable att605 keymap on my ssh-client? or, what ssh client or f/oss terminal emulator that supports att605 keys?
[05:03] <ssh_rdp> dave_:  use sudo passwd in a terminal
[05:04] <dave_> Seveas soory i cant speak English :((
[05:04] <hosler> dave_: its the same as your password
[05:05] <djjason> linkd, thanks that made the difference
[05:05] <hosler> how can i get mplayer to be my default player instead of totem?
[05:05] <defcon8> when is civIV coming out?
[05:05] <aeon17x> dave_: you just did.
[05:05] <dave_> pasword from SU super user
[05:05] <dave_> please help
[05:05] <Seveas> dave_, ubuntu uses sudo instead of su
[05:05] <william_> Whistler, what program do I need to burn ISO's and where can I get it?
[05:05] <Seveas> and sudo needs your own password
[05:06] <Whistler> william_ gnome-burner will fit you
[05:06] <william_> cool
[05:06] <Whistler> william_ you can install it using synaptic
[05:06] <Paradosso> paulproteus, I had to set QTDIR to the libqt3-mt-dev package path /usr/share/qt3, not the libqt3-mt one (/usr/lib/qt3)
[05:06] <william_> alright
[05:07] <william_> thanks
[05:07] <Whistler> !sources
[05:07] <ubotu> I heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[05:07] <ssh_rdp> hosler: in e nautilus file browser right click on the file you want to be always opened by mplayer then properities
[05:07] <Whistler> william_ check this out http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:07] <ssh_rdp> hosler: in open with tab you change the default player for that type of media
[05:07] <Whistler> cause in order to install gnome-baker you need to enable repositories
[05:07] <ssh_rdp> hosler: Ok?
[05:08] <dave_> i m need default pasword from super user HELP
[05:08] <taiho> dave_, do a sudo passwd root
[05:08] <ssh_rdp> dave_:  your super user currently doesn't have password
[05:09] <ssh_rdp> dave_:  you can set it with sudo passwd in a terminal
[05:09] <hernando> the first password that request the system when you do "sudo passwd root" it's your user password
[05:09] <dave_> OK thank you
[05:10] <taiho> Question: Fresh install Ubuntu 5.04, install nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings. nvidia-glx-config enable and then setup the desktop file for the settings to be in the menu. restart and only able to use 640x480, but GL is working good.
[05:11] <william_> any idea what section it would be in Whistler
[05:11] <Whistler> william_ em just use search
[05:11] <william_> CD Burning front-end for Nautilus?
[05:12] <hosler> ssh_rdp: ok so how do i get totem out of my firefox browser. i want the mplayer plugin to handle media files.
[05:12] <Whistler> william_ search for gnome-baker
[05:12] <ssh_rdp> hosler: have you already installed the mplayer plugin for firefox?
[05:13] <william_> nothing under gnome-baker
[05:13] <_kemik> !w32codec
[05:13] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[05:14] <Seveas> hosler, remove all libtotem files from the mozilla plugin dir
[05:14] <SamanthaGothLove> Can somebody please help me im tryin to install packages to listen to mp3's but i get this error----->> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) <<---------- What do i do?
[05:14] <william_> Whistler, no luck on gnome-baker but I see stuff like
[05:14] <Seveas> SamanthaGothLove, sudo apt-get update
[05:14] <Loevborg> SamanthaGothLove, do an "apt-get ipdate" before
[05:14] <SamanthaGothLove> yup
[05:14] <hernando> i have the packege w32***codecs, how to add to totem addons ?
[05:14] <Whistler> william_ you need to enable repositories first
[05:14] <Whistler> william_ check this out http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:14] <william_> ohh duh ok.. *goes and reads*
[05:14] <Whistler> :)
[05:15] <Loevborg> hernando, I'd like to know that myself.
[05:15] <Seveas> hernando, apt-get install totem-xine
[05:15] <Seveas> totem-gstreamer cannot handle w32codecs
[05:15] <Loevborg> Seveas, you sure of it?
[05:15] <taiho> Question: Good program for browsing Windows shares and computers under Gnome?
[05:15] <_kemik> totem.. *shudders*
[05:16] <hernando> apt-get install totem-xine (don't fine how to get the totem-xine pkg)
[05:16] <_kemik> taiho: nautilus ?
[05:16] <Seveas> Loevborg, well, with gstreamer0.8-pitfdll you may have success
[05:16] <_kemik> hernando: use multiverse/universe repositories
[05:16] <taiho> _kemik, ah, so that is for browsing network shares...*bangs head in wall*
[05:16] <SamanthaGothLove> now i got this error http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:16] <SamanthaGothLove> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:16] <SamanthaGothLove> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:17] <aeon17x> SamanthaGothLove: it seems gzip didn't handle properly whatever it was you downloaded.
[05:17] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[05:17] <SamanthaGothLove> What do i do
[05:17] <SamanthaGothLove> Please walk me throught this
[05:17] <Seveas> SamanthaGothLove, paste your sources.list on the pastebin
[05:17] <Seveas> you probably have some duplicates in there
[05:17] <SamanthaGothLove> on where?
[05:17] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:18] <_kemik> teh pastebin
[05:18] <_kemik> ;)
[05:18] <SamanthaGothLove> Can you just post the link for the mp3 packages link
[05:19] <SamanthaGothLove> Dose this mean i hve to refdormat and install again
[05:19] <SamanthaGothLove> coz i have this will be the 4 time
[05:19] <taiho> Question: Where do I find codecs for playing movies?
[05:19] <Seveas> SamanthaGothLove, no, just paste the contents of that file on the pastebin
[05:19] <_kemik> !tell taiho about w32codecs
[05:20] <SamanthaGothLove> Wheres the pastebin and what file please?
[05:20] <taiho> _kemik, oh...right...forgot about those, thanks again
[05:20] <Seveas> pastebin is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl file is /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:20] <_kemik> btw, isit legal being in windows while helping out in here? ;)
[05:20] <_kemik> hehe
[05:20] <mula`> can someone tell me why some applications don
[05:21] <mula`> 't create an icon in gnome menue ?
[05:21] <Samuli^> !ATI
[05:21] <ubotu> ati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[05:21] <SamanthaGothLove> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:21] <taiho> !tell taiho about w32codecs
[05:21] <amarock> mula`: coz all apps are not gnome apps..install menu...then u'll easily find all installed programs....
[05:22] <_kemik> taiho: you can just /msg ubotu whatyouwanttoknow
[05:22] <NoUse> SamanthaGothLove did you put that file on pastebin?
[05:22] <Seveas> SamanthaGothLove, if you don't cooperate, how are we supposed to help..?
[05:22] <amarock> !love
[05:22] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, amarock
[05:22] <amarock> hehe
[05:22] <taiho> _kemik, just saw that. sorry to send needless messages in the channel
[05:22] <mula`> is there a way to tell gnome itself to do this, like kde's ksycoca --rebuild ??
[05:22] <mino> hello again
[05:22] <_kemik> taiho: no worries ;)
[05:22] <Loevborg> mula`, I don't know, I can't find a way to display the original "debian" menu either
[05:23] <Seveas> mula`, use the menu editor
[05:23] <SamanthaGothLove> What fiile am i supposed to passte in the bin?
[05:23] <_kemik> smeg
[05:23] <SamanthaGothLove> sorry im very new at linux
[05:23] <NoUse> SamanthaGothLove we've told you twice
[05:23] <SamanthaGothLove> don't understand
[05:23] <_kemik> SamanthaGothLove: sources.list
[05:23] <Seveas> SamanthaGothLove, i told you 2 times already
[05:23] <mula`> k thx
[05:23] <_kemik> SamanthaGothLove: the stuff inside /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:23] <SamanthaGothLove> ok
[05:23] <Seveas> Loevborg, the menu editor can do that debian menu thing too :)
[05:23] <mino> i can't play videos in Totem player 'cause it produces an error due to that i don't have a decoders... can somebody help me?
[05:24] <Loevborg> Seveas, can't be enabled
[05:24] <NiLz> hi, where can I download firefox 1.5 beta 2 .deb for ubuntu?
[05:24] <mula`> are u talking bout smeg?
[05:24] <taiho> Question: OpenGL works fine but cannot change resolution from 640x480. NVIDIA GeForce 5500 AGP 8.
[05:24] <Seveas> mino, apt-get install totem-xine and install w32codecs from ftp://cipherpunk.com/deb
[05:24] <NoUse> !tell taiho about fixres
[05:24] <Seveas> mula`, yesm the smeg menu editor is cool
[05:25] <taiho> NoUse, Thanks
[05:25] <mino> thnx
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> ## distribution.
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> ## repository.
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[05:25] <ssh_rdp> wow
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[05:25] <mula`> lamer alert
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> ## team.
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[05:25] <Shadowline> gahh
[05:25] <ssh_rdp> :D
[05:25] <jbroome> kick!
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[05:25] <NoUse> !help
[05:25] <SamanthaGothLove> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[05:25] <GURT>  well she said she was new
[05:25] <_kemik> omg
[05:25] <_kemik> GURT: being new doesnt mean you can be retarded aswell
[05:26] <_kemik> i mean... following simple instructions.....
[05:26] <ssh_rdp> leave it
[05:26] <ssh_rdp> :))
[05:26] <GURT> it happens
[05:26] <Seveas> too stupid
[05:26] <Seveas> far too stupid
[05:26] <_kemik> im with Seveas on this one ;)
[05:26] <timo_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:26] <timo_>   skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed
[05:26] <timo_> E: Broken packages
[05:27] <Seveas> timo_, don't paste in here
[05:27] <Seveas> and use skype from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:27] <selinium> Hi Seveas, is there a command line flag that installs the recommended apps?
[05:27] <Seveas> selinium, yes, read the manpage of apt-get or aptitude :)
[05:27] <timo_> Seveas, but how can i show my problem?
[05:27] <Seveas> it's eith-recommended I believe
[05:27] <majkel> apt-get dude...
[05:27] <timo_> without pasting?
[05:27] <Seveas> timo_, we have pastebins for that
[05:27] <NoUse> !tell timo_ about pastbin
[05:27] <NoUse> !tell timo_ about pastebin
[05:27] <NiLz> is there a .deb for firefox 1.5 beta?
[05:27] <selinium> Seveas, I have read the man page! But i will try aptitude! :)
[05:27] <iceman> ok how do you install a run file ?
[05:28] <william_> thanks Whistler I'll be back with 5.10 in an hour
[05:28] <majkel> just run it :D
[05:28] <Whistler> william_ my pleasure :)
[05:28] <iceman> got a program that is xxxxx.x86.run .... command to install it ?
[05:28] <majkel> i fyou have like install.run
[05:28] <Seveas> selinium, apt-get -o WithRecommended=yes oslt
[05:28] <majkel> the do sh install.run
[05:28] <Jejjo> hi i cant get vmware towork after upgrade to breezy. the app doesn't start at all. any clue?
[05:28] <Seveas> see man apt.conf for the right option
[05:28] <DARKMORNA> can somebody tell me about the breezy backports?
[05:28] <Seveas> DARKMORNA, there are non
[05:28] <majkel> or sh ./install.run ( if you are in the directory that script is
[05:29] <selinium> Seveas: Cheers
[05:29] <DARKMORNA> how long it may takes??
[05:29] <mino> Seveas, the url that u tell me doesn't works
[05:29] <iceman> sh ./doom3-linux-1.1.1286-demo.x86.run
[05:29] <iceman>   seems to have worked ... thanks
[05:29] <timo_> Seveas, i see your site... but there is on how to
[05:30] <timo_> Seveas, i see your site... but there is *no* how to
[05:30] <Seveas> timo_, click on the breezy-extras link
[05:30] <Seveas> and then look for the skype deb
[05:30] <albert_> erh guys ive changed my keybord layout in the keybord app thingy
[05:30] <albert_> but it dosent change
[05:31] <timo_> but i am using hoary
[05:31] <Seveas> mino, my brain was on vacation
[05:31] <Seveas> ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/
[05:31] <Seveas> timo_, sec...
[05:31] <albert_> I am uing breezy btw.
[05:31] <New2UbuntuStupid> Im so sorry you guys :D
[05:31] <joachim> I have a ton of drive icons on my desktop. are they shown there automatically because my drives are mounted in /media?
[05:31] <albert_> argh
[05:31] <joachim> will changing the mount point remove them?
[05:31] <albert_> this is getting anoying :p
[05:32] <Jejjo> no one has any clue? actually vmware doesn't work no more and skype neither. but nerolinux is. what could i do?
[05:32] <NiLz> any1 is there a .deb for firefox 1.5 beta?
[05:32] <Seveas> timo_, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/skype_hoary.deb
[05:32] <Seveas> NiLz, not that I know of
[05:32] <New2UbuntuStupid> Seveas Hi :D
[05:32] <timo_> Seveas, how do i install that?
[05:33] <GURT> how do i install that too
[05:33] <ssh_rdp> timo_: first download the package dpkg -i skype_haory.deb
[05:33] <albert_> no ideas }
[05:34] <albert_> ?
[05:34] <mino> ok, i can play the video
[05:34] <GURT> lol
[05:34] <timo_> ok, in 3 min. i shall now what happened... it's downloading
[05:34] <iceman> one thing i got to hate about ubuntu, is limited root access, i understand the idea, and reasoning, but shoot trying to install with limiets
[05:34] <mino> but now i don't lisent the audio...
[05:34] <mino> :P
[05:35] <GURT> wow
[05:35] <iceman> dang doom III demo installs fast ...
[05:35] <majkel> dom III sucks ass
[05:35] <Seveas> majkel, language...
[05:35] <jbroome> hopefulle it uninstalls just as fast. :)
[05:35] <mino> can somebody help me?
[05:35] <ams_> where can I get a divx codec for linux
[05:36] <Seveas> !tell ams_ about divx
[05:37] <GURT> so much for humanity to others :P
[05:37] <kikinovak> Hi. I'm having troubles with cdrecord on a fresh breezy install. hdparm says dma is _on_... cdrecord -scanbus says it's _off_. Erg. Q: where do I define piix module to get loaded _before_ ide-core? In Hoary, that was /etc/modules
[05:37] <taiho> Question not Ubuntu related: How do I play Windows Shared files in VLC?
[05:38] <majkel> when it comes too burning i got nero linux
[05:38] <majkel> i tried 2 days to make dvd iso burning happen on my fresh ubuntu box
[05:38] <kikinovak> majkel and did you succeed?
[05:38] <majkel> i just didn`t have patience, grabbed nero for linux, everything runned smoothly till then
[05:38] <ssh_rdp> taiho: 2 steps 1) copy 2) open them as regular files // you can mount them with smbfs too
[05:38] <mino> Seveas, can u help me? i can't listen the audio of videos...
[05:39] <taiho> ssh_rdp, thanks. I'll do the mount then. apt-get install smbfs I guess?
[05:39] <majkel> type nero linux in google
[05:39] <ssh_rdp> taiho: yes
[05:39] <majkel> the y have a demo to download for free
[05:39] <mino> what its the codec that i need ?
[05:39] <majkel> ready deb package
[05:39] <ssh_rdp> ssh_rdp: then mount -t smbfs ,,,
[05:40] <ams_> what is a good movie player?
[05:40] <timo_> humm... that didn't work well... skype is running but none of my contacts are on...
[05:40] <timo_> :((
[05:40] <joachim> is there a way to make xchat highlight my name when people say it?
[05:40] <swadex> gogogo http://www.msn-wizz.com/article-13126-5147.html
[05:40] <dean> hay anyone know how to add programs to startup
[05:41] <ssh_rdp> dean: what program ?
[05:41] <taiho> ssh_rdp, how was it? In fstab I should put IP/networkname:/sharename /mountpoint smbfs default 0 0 ?
[05:41] <Amaranth> dean: System->Preferences->Sessions
[05:41] <dean> am ubuntu-firewall, ipv6.sh and lampp start
[05:42] <ams_> anyone recomend a good movie player?
[05:42] <dean> need that this has to be run as root
[05:42] <Kyynara> ams_: totem-xine
[05:42] <alumno> ?
[05:42] <ssh_rdp> dean: add them to your init script
[05:42] <ams_> kyynara thanks
[05:43] <Kyynara> np
[05:43] <dean> am but then there are some problems with stoping them
[05:43] <hender> does anyone know why Freeciv doesn't work in Breezy?
[05:43] <dean> or idon't know how to add
[05:43] <timo_> Seveas, how do i uninstall your .deb???
[05:43] <hender> (or how to fix it)?
[05:43] <timo_> Seveas, humm... that didn't work well... skype is running but none of my contacts are on...
[05:43] <Seveas> timo_, apt-get remove --purge skype
[05:43] <ssh_rdp> taiho: add username=$user,password=$pass in the options
[05:43] <ams_> kyynara, add aplications does not show xine, where could I download it
[05:44] <taiho> ssh_rdp, ok. thanks.
[05:44] <dean> sh files for init.d should be some scripts that has ability to stop start, ...
[05:44] <mino> Kyynara, please can u say me the codec that i need to listen the audio of the videos?
[05:44] <timo_> Seveas, thanx
[05:44] <bastardkestrel> how can i access hda1?
[05:44] <qbeek> hi, I can't configure my keyboard in us_intl under Breezy: Is it normal?
[05:44] <bastardkestrel> my windows partition
[05:44] <hender> Does anyone know how to get a working version of Freeciv, or how to make the repository version work?
[05:45] <Kyynara> mino: doesn't win32codecs have em all
[05:45] <bastardkestrel> i need to get some files from windows partition.
[05:45] <ecobuntu> is pine not available for ubunt?
[05:45] <ssh_rdp> you can simply put them in the /etc/init.d/networking after the ifups
[05:45] <ecobuntu> ubuntu?
[05:45] <ecobuntu> !pine
[05:45] <ubotu> ecobuntu: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:46] <mino> i've installe but the sound doesn't works
[05:46] <aeon17x> !tell bastardkestrel about ntfs
[05:46] <Juhaz> ecobuntu, use nano
[05:46] <dean> sifups?
[05:46] <bastardkestrel> thanks
[05:46] <dean> ifups
[05:46] <ams_> hender, you just look under add aplpications
[05:46] <ecobuntu> why nano?
[05:46] <ecobuntu> !nano
[05:46] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ecobuntu
[05:46] <Juhaz> ecobuntu, sorry, nevermind, misread
[05:46] <ecobuntu> pine is text-based mail client
[05:46] <hender> ams_, I've installed Freeciv from repositories, but it hangs infinitely when I press "Start game"
[05:47] <mAIJK> Hello, I have an simple question: I use ubuntu, gnome. I have installer ubuntu on my scondary harddrive, and I have MSwindows installed on my primary. But I cant find my windows harddrive in ubuntu. I have tried in Disk manager and made it accesible and so on.  But i couldnt write to the disk and so on. Is there isnt any other metod to make this work? Thank you!
[05:47] <bastardkestrel> does anyone know if outlook pst files are importable in to any linux programs?
[05:47] <jcharette> hi, is there a pptp vpn client for ubuntu?
[05:47] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i have a pdf file (also have it in ps format) which i want to print, but double-sided. evince doesn't seem to support this, so what does?
[05:47] <kip^> maijk: is your hard drive formatted with ntfs
[05:47] <nick58b> ecobuntu: use mutt?
[05:47] <ams_> dont know about that, I am still a newbie
[05:47] <mAIJK> My windows is ntfs
[05:47] <hernando> ok, now i can play mpg movies, but don't find the packega "gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse"
[05:47] <kip^> then you can't write to it
[05:47] <linkd> thats why
[05:47] <ecobuntu> i guess i could use mutt
[05:47] <ecobuntu> !mutt
[05:47] <ams_> did it give any errors while installing?
[05:47] <ubotu> ecobuntu: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[05:47] <linkd> ntfs is read only
[05:47] <kip^> you should make a fat32 partitoin if you want to write to it
[05:47] <hernando> where to find this package
[05:47] <ssh_rdp> dean: search for the line ifup -a and add your scripts there btw they should return or go too background
[05:47] <hernando> where to find this package?
[05:48] <_thumper_> anyone here familiar with the nvidia GeForce FX 5200?
[05:48] <mAIJK> So I cant write to my ntfs windows disk???
[05:48] <mAIJK> okay
[05:48] <linkd> mAIJK: thats correct
[05:48] <mAIJK> damn!!
[05:48] <linkd> :)
[05:48] <bastardkestrel> aeon17x: I thought 5.10 was to have auto mount of win partition?
[05:48] <kip^> make like a 1gb fat32 partition
[05:48] <mino> i've installed w32codecs but the sound doesn't works
[05:48] <kip^> and use it to swap files back and forth
[05:48] <rapha> Hi all!
[05:48] <mAIJK> I think the best should be to just throw out windows :)
[05:48] <hernando> hi
[05:48] <mino> Kyynara, i've installed w32codecs but the sound doesn't works
[05:49] <_thumper_> hi rapha
[05:49] <mAIJK> ubuntu is really good.
[05:49] <Kyynara> mino: then I can't really help you...
[05:49] <ecobuntu> what's the add/remove application GUI in GNOME called?  not Synaptic but the other GUI
[05:49] <rapha> I need help! I want to "apt-get source vdr" but it says "sh: dpkg-source: command not found". What do I have to do?
[05:49] <kip^> << is installing ubuntu right now on his laptop... 54% done iinstalling packages
[05:49] <mino> Kyynara, thnx
[05:49] <mAIJK> Is it hard to make gnome abit more nice? It does not look very cool :)
[05:49] <ufc> mino,  my prob is that my vid dosent work :)
[05:49] <ssh_rdp> dean: are you sure that does applications dont add themselves too init scripts?
[05:49] <hernando> now just need to add the package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[05:49] <Juhaz> ecobuntu, pine has evil license which is why many distributions don't have it,
[05:49] <kip^> majik: you can use different gtk themes or a different WM
[05:49] <ecobuntu> i see
[05:50] <hender> rapha, what program are you trying to install?
[05:50] <bina> mAIJK theres a http://gnome-look.org for themes etc i think
[05:50] <Gourami> I have a problem of very poor performance on a clean installation of breezy, the machine is practically unusuble. advice please
[05:50] <rapha> hender: The sources for vdr.
[05:50] <mAIJK> kip^, okay, I have installed KDE but i didn\t like it
[05:50] <linkd> dont u mean gstreamer0.8-plugins from the multiverse repositories?
[05:50] <mAIJK> Thanks!
[05:50] <mula`> !qemu
[05:50] <ubotu> methinks qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[05:50] <mino> ufc, i don't understand u
[05:50] <kip^> majk: no i meant you can use a different windowmanager with gnome
[05:50] <ufc> hey... how can I found out what version of ubuntu?
[05:50] <kip^> such as icewm or windowmaker or enlightenment
[05:50] <mino> ufc, what is the problem?
[05:51] <hender> rapha, apt packages are normally in one word. Your command would install two packages: source and vdr
[05:51] <mAIJK> kip^, aha, im sorry to ask. but what do you mean with windowmanager? :)
[05:51] <NoUse> ufc lsb_release -a
[05:51] <hernando> moni: reconfigure synaptic adding repositories universe and multuverse, and will work exept for  gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[05:51] <mino> ufc, the problem that u see...
[05:51] <ssh_rdp> kip^: before login change the session
[05:51] <kip^> maijk: it's the thing that sits on top of gnome and draws your windows
[05:51] <kip^> the default gnome one is sawfish
[05:51] <hender> rapha, you should probably search for vdr in synaptic ... I can't right now since I'm installing something
[05:51] <ufc> mino,  I cannot see the video but the sound works
[05:52] <linkd> hernando: do you mean the gstreamer0.8-plugin from the multiverse repositories?
[05:52] <graabein> hi i was wondering how i change the icons for launchers in gnome panel. right clicking and selecting does not work, it just changes back
[05:52] <kip^> read on the official site forums for more info
[05:52] <labluez> is there a way to get Verizon Broadband Wireless working on ubuntu
[05:52] <mAIJK> Where can I find another and how do I change? I like gnome but I want it to be "cooler"
[05:52] <mAIJK> okay
[05:52] <mAIJK> thanks
[05:52] <graabein> this is for the humility icon package. i dont like the icons for firefox and gaim
[05:52] <rapha> hender: Oh I found the problem! You need to install "dpkg-dev" first! Thanks!
[05:52] <NoUse> labluez have you searched google at all?
[05:52] <mino> i download w32codecs and the video works but the sound doesnt works
[05:52] <ufc> NoUse, thanks...
[05:52] <bastardkestrel> how can i move a file from windows partition to ubuntu?
[05:52] <hernando> mino : i'm tring to solve same problem
[05:53] <bastardkestrel> i can see the file, but it wont copy
[05:53] <labluez> yeah couldn't find much
[05:53] <mino> uffff
[05:53] <labluez> I was wondering if a program like win4lin would work
[05:53] <linkd> bastardkestrel: cp /media/hda1/the.file ~
[05:53] <ssh_rdp> mino: can you hear any sound from your computer? for example when you log in
[05:53] <ufc> bastardkestrel,  just move it?
[05:53] <mino> yes
[05:53] <linkd> oh? why wont it copy bastardkestrel ?
[05:53] <bastardkestrel> i tried
[05:53] <Gourami> I cant believe that the error when ending a terminal server session has not been fixed !
[05:53] <linkd> bastardkestrel: what errors?
[05:53] <hernando> i think with pack  gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse  but where the hell is the pcg
[05:53] <ufc> bastardkestrel,  you need to chmod the file... because you have only read when its ntfs
[05:53] <mino> before i hearing with XMMS music
[05:53] <hernando> i think with pack  gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse  but where the hell is the pkg
[05:54] <ssh_rdp> mino: what is your media player?
[05:54] <mino> totem
[05:54] <bastardkestrel> im looking at a picture in windows hda1 and i try to copy and paste or drag
[05:54] <bastardkestrel> it does not show up
[05:54] <ssh_rdp> totem-xine or totem-gstream?
[05:54] <mino> totem-xine
[05:54] <bastardkestrel> oh
[05:54] <NoUse> labluez I doubt it, your problem will most likely be a driver for that card
[05:54] <ssh_rdp> mino: breezy ?
[05:54] <mino> first i've installed a totem-gstream
[05:55] <yi_> hi, how do i reinstall xorg? i accidentaly deleted some files
[05:55] <mino> but in a web i see that i have install the totem-xine
[05:55] <mino> and i install it
[05:55] <yi_> i tried apt-get --reinstall xserver-xorg
[05:55] <mino> yes breezy
[05:55] <yi_> but that didn't seem to do the right things
[05:55] <yi_> (i.e. not symlinking,e tc)
[05:55] <bastardkestrel> ufc: do you know how to chmod it
[05:56] <ssh_rdp> mino: maybe the pcm volume is low ?:-?
[05:56] <mino> no
[05:56] <NoUse> yi_ what files did you delete?
[05:56] <bastardkestrel> ufc: i was using administration: disks to view ntfs
[05:56] <mino> wait
[05:56] <mino> in totem i up the level
[05:56] <yi_> NoUse: /usr/lib/X11R6
[05:56] <bastardkestrel> ufc: there is also a hda1 icon on deskto that wont open
[05:57] <mino> is it that?
[05:57] <ssh_rdp> mino:  no in the top panel double click on the speaker icon
[05:57] <yi_> NoUse: if i symlink Xorg to X
[05:57] <mino> ok
[05:57] <bastardkestrel> !chmod
[05:57] <ubotu> hmm... chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[05:57] <yi_> it gives me an error about not being able to move the log
[05:57] <mino> but its not low
[05:58] <mAIJK> I have downloaded a GTK 2.x Theme to my ubuntu but where do I activate it? :)
[05:58] <mino> do u think i install totem-gstreamer?
[05:58] <ssh_rdp> mino: may be you dont have the audio codec for that type of movie
[05:58] <Seveas> mAIJK, http://art.gnome.org/faq.php
[05:58] <taiho> Question: 12114: Connection to 69.69.69.69: failed when trying to mount a Windows share. Have smbfs installed and all, IP is right.
[05:58] <mAIJK> Ty
[05:58] <mino> i try 2 movies
[05:59] <mino> one DVD and one move
[05:59] <mino> movie
[05:59] <Jejjo> somebody got skype latest version to work?
[05:59] <ssh_rdp> mino: what are the audio video codec?
[05:59] <mino> i dont know
[05:59] <mino> how i can see?
[05:59] <yi_> xserver-xorg is _the_ meta package for x11 right?
[05:59] <bastardkestrel> my windows partition is read only how can i change that?
[06:00] <Splinter> hi all
[06:00] <linkd> bastardkestrel: if its ntfs. u cant.
[06:00] <hernando> mino: go to synaptic, add repositories (under sttings) including the universe and multiverse repositories, now you can choose the addons form the list (totem-xine - gstreames pluggins - corefonts - etc.)
[06:00] <Splinter> I have a question regarding trying to connect to the internet, basically I can log into my router and see my settings etc... but I can not browse
[06:00] <mula`> bastardkestrel: use knoppix to do that
[06:01] <NoUse> yi_ but if you just delete files dpkg doesn't know that its depencies are missing
[06:01] <ssh_rdp> mino: let me see
[06:01] <mino> hernando, synaptic?where is it?
[06:01] <mula`> Splinter: i guess you haven't even a connection then
[06:01] <bastardkestrel> mula`: uh not a good answer
[06:01] <linkd> Splinter: see if u can ping google.com or something
[06:01] <Splinter> im windows at that moment
[06:02] <bastardkestrel> mula`:  this is ubuntu right
[06:02] <Splinter> as i could not connect :/
[06:02] <hernando> mino: go to "https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto" you will find how to add repositories
[06:02] <linkd> check you can resolve stuff
[06:02] <jasongrieves> what's th best log to check for when the system locks up, i'm getting a lockup at least once or twice a day
[06:02] <yi_> NoUse: ok so how do i get a clean xorg install
[06:02] <bastardkestrel> mula`:  there should be an easy way to read windows files. its auto on most distros
[06:02] <mino> ok
[06:02] <Tonik> Is there a Mac OS X Dock Linux clone that doesn't suck?
[06:03] <Swetko> i have problems with compiling .  So ubuntu installs without gcc. I installed gcc and g++. But when i type gcc c.c  when c.c = [ int main () { return 0;} ]  the following message appears   " /usr/bin/ld: ctrl.o: no such file: no such file or directory \n  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[06:03] <farruinn> Tonik: probably not
[06:03] <linkd> Splinter: my advice when u go back, first try to ping google.com, then try and ping a known ip. (like resolve google.com first and write it down) see if either of those work
[06:03] <Tonik> :(
[06:03] <timo_> * anyone know how to migrate Outlook 2002 to Evolution 2.x
[06:03] <hernando> and the pluggin to play mp3 (under synaptic) is gstreamer0.8-plugins
[06:03] <bastardkestrel> linkd: I dont want to write to ntfs, i want to copy from
[06:03] <NoUse> yi_ here is a list of packages that own files in /usr/lib/X11, try reinstalling them http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=%2Fusr%2Flib%2FX11&searchmode=searchfilesanddirs&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[06:03] <farruinn> Tonik: there's that e17 tool that's pretty cool, but it doesn't integrate w/gnome well imo
[06:03] <Tonik> farruinn, ok maybe a sucky one, but gtk based ?
[06:03] <Splinter> linkd if it does now work how should i move on from there?
[06:03] <linkd> bastardkestrel: oh.
[06:03] <jasongrieves> timo_ can you do csv export/import?
[06:04] <hernando> mino: don't forget to install totem-xine, to play (this will uninstall totem)
[06:04] <linkd> Splinter: it depends on if both of those work or not
[06:04] <ssh_rdp> mino: can you use other players? like xine (with the xine-ui package) or mplayer
[06:04] <bastardkestrel> linkd: i can see the photo but cant copy it.
[06:04] <linkd> bastardkestrel: drop into a shell and cp it
[06:04] <bastardkestrel> linkd: it say in permission i cant change them
[06:04] <linkd> ah
[06:04] <Splinter> linkd i am on dhcp mode not static ip, will this make a difference, how would i set it to make connection in dhcp?
[06:04] <linkd> bastardkestrel: sudo cp it then
[06:04] <timo_> yeah, for contacts and so on...
[06:04] <Splinter> linkd i tried setting it to ivp4
[06:04] <hernando> make sudo cp
[06:04] <ufc> what was the command for partion list.. ?
[06:04] <timo_> but tasks and calender?
[06:05] <Jejjo> timo_ did you get skype to work?
[06:05] <timo_> jasongrieves, yeah, for contacts and so on...
[06:05] <linkd> Splinter: does ur router recognise ur machine and give a listed ip address for it?
[06:05] <NoUse> ufc sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:05] <bastardkestrel> linkd:  but i want to browse and copy like all the other easier distros
[06:05] <timo_> Jejjo,
[06:05] <timo_> timo_ nope :(
[06:05] <Splinter> linkd yeah ican login to my router and it shows me ip address etc
[06:05] <timo_> timo_ i mean, yes... it it didn't have my contacts
[06:05] <timo_> timo_ so, i removed it
[06:05] <timo_> timo_ now, i am updating hoary to see if it helps
[06:05] <bastardkestrel> linkd:  why wont ubuntu do it?
[06:05] <Jejjo> timo try this
[06:06] <Jejjo> sudo apt-get install fakeroot alien
[06:06] <Jejjo> fakeroot alien --to-tgz skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb
[06:06] <Jejjo> sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt
[06:06] <Jejjo> fakeroot alien --to-deb skype-1.2.0.17.tgz
[06:06] <Jejjo> sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.17-2_all.deb
[06:06] <linkd> bastardkestrel: i have no idea why ur having problems. i guess you could paste a couple lines of ur /etc/fstab for us to check out
[06:06] <bastardkestrel> ok
[06:06] <NoUse> Jejjo don't paste in here, use pastebin
[06:06] <farruinn> bastardkestrel: you probably don't have /etc/fstab set up well. You probably need to include 'users' in the options
[06:06] <linkd> Splinter: then u already have an ip do it wont be that
[06:06] <ssh_rdp> mino: got to go
[06:06] <Jejjo> ups sorry
[06:06] <linkd> *so it
[06:06] <ssh_rdp> bye
[06:06] <yi_> NoUse: hurmm it's a suid/permission problem i think
[06:06] <bastardkestrel> thanks
[06:06] <timo_> Jejjo, thanx
[06:07] <bastardkestrel> farruinn: thanks, that sounds right
[06:07] <linkd> indeed it does
[06:07] <Splinter> linkd do i have to set up anything from within any of ubuntu;s menus?
[06:07] <hernando> ok... now i play mpg and mp3 files, will try divx
[06:07] <Swetko> Please helpl me. I have problems compiling .  So ubuntu installs without gcc. I installed gcc and g++. But when i type gcc c.c  when c.c = [ int main () { return 0;} ]  the following message appears   " /usr/bin/ld: ctrl.o: no such file: no such file or directory \n  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[06:07] <Splinter> linkd as its not auto detecting it
[06:07] <linkd> Splinter: auto detecting what?
[06:07] <NoUse> Swetko install the build-essential package
[06:07] <farruinn> Swetko: I don't know for sure, but you might need buil-essential
[06:07] <Splinter> linkd my connection
[06:08] <Swetko> 10x
[06:08] <linkd> Splinter: i thought u said u could connect to ur router?
[06:08] <NoUse> yi_ what kind of problem?
[06:08] <mino> hernando, thnx i've solved the problem
[06:08] <mino> :P
[06:08] <bastardkestrel> farruinn: i go this: /dev/hda1  /media/hda1 ntfs defaults 0  0
[06:08] <Gourami> I am having a problem with extremely poor performance and I have noticed that the hard drive needs stops reading/writing, it is a fresh installation ? Any ideas
[06:08] <yi_> NoUse: it can't move Xorg.log
[06:08] <FylleMisstaget> Hi..I'm allready a Gentoo user...convince me to install ubuntu on p com :)
[06:08] <Gourami> needs = never
[06:08] <Splinter> linkd i can
[06:08] <NoUse> yi_ maybe delete the log and let it recreate it
[06:09] <Splinter> linkd but how come i cant not browse?
[06:09] <bastardkestrel> farruinn: should i just add users here?
[06:09] <yi_> that doesn't do it
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> FylleMisstaget,  thats not the linux style. :P Use what you like. or not.
[06:09] <linkd> Splinter: well i cant really help you until u know the results of those pings
[06:09] <yi_> can i recursively remove all packages dependend on xorg-common and just reinstall it?
[06:09] <farruinn> bastardkestrel: I *think* it will work if you do 'defaults,users' in the otpoins column
[06:09] <bastardkestrel> farruinn: maybe i need to change the o to 1
[06:09] <FylleMisstaget> Dr_Willis hehe okay
[06:09] <NoUse> yi_ I think so but I'm not sure how
[06:09] <Splinter> linkd : ill be back in a wee bit
[06:09] <hernando> ready mino?
[06:09] <farruinn> bastardkestrel: change only one thing at a time
[06:09] <linkd> Splinter: if you can ping ips but not domains check out ur /etc/resove.conf
[06:09] <bastardkestrel> ok
[06:09] <bastardkestrel> right
[06:09] <linkd> *resolv.conf
[06:10] <Swetko> 10x
[06:10] <Swetko> now it works
[06:11] <richie_> OMG how did it get my belkin wireless to work instantly? When I installed debian, it never worked instantly!
[06:11] <mula`> hi
[06:11] <Gourami> please help what would cause continuous hard drive access on a new installation crippling the machine
[06:11] <richie_> Not even windows can do that
[06:11] <aeon17x> richie_: it's magic (TM).
[06:12] <FylleMisstaget> is it easy to install programs in Ubuntu? I'm use to the excellent portage in Gentoo....
[06:12] <mula`> anyone here got experiences in reactos with qemu ?
[06:12] <richie_> I was shocked when it enabled it with just a click
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> FylleMisstaget,  see richie_  as to why he likes Ubuntu. :P
[06:12] <farruinn> FylleMisstaget: it is easier to install packages on ubuntu - portage is stupid once you get used to apt
[06:12] <NoUse> FylleMisstaget have you ever used apt-get?
[06:12] <mula`> FylleMisstaget: ubuntu uses the mighty apt
[06:12] <FylleMisstaget> NoUse no..never
[06:12] <mula`> so your answer is--YES
[06:12] <NoUse> FylleMisstaget thats too bad
[06:12] <farruinn> dpkg is THE BEST packaging solution (imo)
[06:13] <FylleMisstaget> Is apt-get anything like emerge in gentoo?
[06:13] <chavo> what's gentoo?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> FylleMisstaget,  in the fact that it downloads and installs stuff... yes. :P
[06:13] <NoUse> FylleMisstaget yeah except you don't need to wait 2 days while everything compiles
[06:13] <mula`> is emerge used to manage packets?
[06:13] <yi_> NoUse: x works for root now, but not normal user
[06:14] <FylleMisstaget> emerge downloads and compiles and install all pckets you need for the program u want
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> In Theory. :P
[06:14] <chavo> I think emerge is when you come out of the closet
[06:14] <NoUse> yi_ what error did you get when you try to run x as a user
[06:14] <farruinn> FylleMisstaget: apt downloads binaries and their dependencies
[06:14] <farruinn> FylleMisstaget: you skip the compiling step (saves wasted time)
[06:14] <FylleMisstaget> okay..so I compile myself?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> I normally compile source code.. not myself.
[06:15] <NoUse> FylleMisstaget no ubuntu uses precompiled packages
[06:15] <farruinn> FylleMisstaget: no, they're binaries - already compiled for you architecture
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> that sounds painfull.
[06:15] <Broness> Hi guyz! =)
[06:15] <FylleMisstaget> aha
[06:15] <yi_> NoUse: "Cannot move old log file("/var/log/Xorg.log.0" to "/var/log/Xorg.log.0.old")
[06:15] <NoUse> yi_ google that error
[06:15] <yi_> which makes sense because a regular user shouldn't have write permissions to /var/log
[06:15] <olicat> any ideas why when i try to open firefox, i get a dialog telling me to create a new profile? i don't have any other firefox processed running
[06:15] <yi_> yeah i wll
[06:15] <yi_> *wiil, gotta run now though
[06:16] <Broness> If i will install cvscedega will it erase wine too? =)
[06:16] <FylleMisstaget> so for example apt-get mozilla-firefox would install firefox and when it's done all I have to do is start it?
[06:16] <spiral> hi
[06:16] <NoUse> FylleMisstaget yeah
[06:16] <Fawzib> is there a way of blocking some users from using email accounts?
[06:16] <mula`> exactly
[06:16] <FylleMisstaget> NoUse sounds nice
[06:16] <farruinn> FylleMisstaget: as long as you do 'apt-get install <package>'
[06:16] <FylleMisstaget> ah okay
[06:17] <farruinn> !apt-howto
[06:17] <ubotu> [apt-howto]  at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[06:17] <farruinn> read that, it's great
[06:17] <FylleMisstaget> thanx
[06:17] <NoUse> FylleMisstaget there is also a GUI frontend
[06:17] <olicat> any ideas folks?
[06:17] <NoUse> !tell FylleMisstaget about synaptic
[06:17] <timo_> Any good link to export Thunderbird e-mail to Evolution 2.x
[06:18] <farruinn> timo_: do you have the option of using imap?
[06:18] <Broness> If i will install cvs cedega will it erase wine? =)
[06:19] <timo_> farruinn, hum... it's just pop accounts
[06:19] <TauReX> ehlo
[06:19] <aeon17x> Broness: no.
[06:20] <TauReX> anyone know why vim gives "no mapping found" msg
[06:20] <TauReX> thought it might be not finding the sytax files but it's not that
[06:20] <Kimppa> Hi. Having small problem with upgrading to breezy. The dist-upgrade stop and gave me this ->
[06:20] <Kimppa> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:20] <Kimppa>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libopenh323-1.15.3c2_1.15.6-1_i386.deb
[06:20] <Kimppa> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:20] <stabface> hi
[06:21] <Kimppa> I tried apt-get upgrade and it told me there was something wrong with the dependencies and that I should run -f install
[06:21] <bastardkestrel> i tried adding users to fstab no luck
[06:21] <bastardkestrel> how can i access a windows file?
[06:21] <Kimppa> -f install stoped giving the same error as dist-upgrade, any ideas?
[06:22] <j0sh> Hey guys, I need help with hooking a printer to my Ubuntu system
[06:22] <Rawplayer> re
[06:22] <stabface> When i try to install  Ubuntu it the system restarts right after i press enter to install, i have tried the other install options like, buffer false,  but to no avail any help?
[06:22] <zion115> hey guys can any1 help me with nvidia FX 5200 driver installtion?
[06:22] <bastardkestrel> i foound this: nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[06:22] <qt2> err
[06:22] <farruinn> j0sh: plug one end of the cable into the printer and the other into the computer :P
[06:22] <qt2> is tere a way to restore the default oss install?
[06:23] <kikinovak> Hi. Anyone knows if compiling a 2.6.13 kernel from kernel.org (pristine sources) is likely to break things in my ubuntu install? How _patched_ is the Ubuntu kernel actually?
[06:23] <j0sh> farruinn: Thanks I've got that far
[06:23] <foxgamer> Hi all. I've been trying to set up my deskjet printer, but nothing seems to be working. Can anyone help? Thanks.
[06:23] <bastardkestrel> it should be easier to access windows files not more difficult in ubuntu
[06:23] <j0sh> I need to make the system recognize it as new hardware
[06:24] <derchilligephil> hi
[06:24] <zion115> hi can you help me?
[06:24] <derchilligephil> what is the command for adding user in samba
[06:24] <sartek> hi i have installed firestarter on my kubuntu 5.10 how can i set to start at booting?
[06:25] <Broness>  there is a free cedega in http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45 im not sure if it works though. =)
[06:25] <farruinn> sartek: firestarter modifies the system's firewall, you don't need to run firestarter to have the firewall in effect (to my knowledge)
[06:25] <zion115> I really rally need to install Nvidia FX 5200 drivers any1?
[06:25] <sartek> thx farruinn
[06:26] <wickedpuppy> !nvidia
[06:26] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:26] <qt2> err, i broke OSS somehow, how do i restore the default install?
[06:26] <zion115> FANX
[06:27] <Toma-> qt2: u mean alsa?
[06:27] <qt2> Toma-, no, oss, asla works fine, just not oss.
[06:27] <j0sh> Anyone know how to get print drivers for Linux
[06:27] <OneSeventeen> I'm upgrading a laptop right now from 5.04 to 5.10, is it better to upgrade or start with a fresh install?
[06:27] <defcon8> OneSeventeen, is pepsi or cola better?
[06:27] <j0sh> cola
[06:28] <OneSeventeen> defcon8: cool, point taken
[06:28] <zion115> pepsi
[06:29] <erUSUL> j0sh, linuxprinting.org
[06:29] <zion115> how do i change my font color?
[06:30] <erUSUL> zion115, which aplication? whole gnome? title bars? ???????????
[06:30] <OneSeventeen> Open Source Cola: http://www.colawp.com/colas/400/cola467_recipe.html
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> OneSeventeen,  from the # of people ive seen with 'upgrade' issues.. id have to say fresh install - if you can.
[06:31] <doubletwist> Anyone here familiar with reiser4 ?
[06:31] <j0sh> erUSUL: thanks
[06:31] <barongas> If I would install windoze on my spare hd, will it screw up my boot tables or something for ubuntu?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> barongas,  yes it can.
[06:31] <doubletwist> Specifically, is there a functioning [and somewhat stable]  resizefs for reiser4, or should I stick with reiser [3?] 
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> barongas,  what vrsion of windows  anyway?
[06:31] <OneSeventeen> Dr_Willis: cool, I'm just finishing up the upgrade, so after restarting I figured if it gives me more than 10 minutes trouble, it's fresh install time
[06:31] <barongas> Dr_Willis, are there any guides helping me avoid it? I was thinking 2k
[06:31] <aggressive> barongas, look for device mapping
[06:32] <erUSUL> barongas, yes, but is pretty easy to restore grub whith the livecd
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> barongas,  best bet. remove (unplug) the linux hard drive.. do the windows install..  put hd back in.. boot to linux an fix grub to boot your windows install.
[06:32] <nekron> the xmms on ubuntu is ok?
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> BUT on my system i have - i can hit a key and get to the bios "boot this Hd" menu :P which works for me,
[06:33] <j0sh> euUSUL: if I can't fine my printer in the list of printers does that mean I'm SOL?
[06:33] <farruinn> nekron: beep-media-player is better imo, uses gtk2
[06:33] <yme> hi guys, I got java1.5 to install with no errors on 64bit breezy, but java -version tells me I have blackdown 1.4 - how do I correct this?
[06:33] <nekron> the xmms on ubuntu breezy is ok?
[06:33] <erUSUL> barongas, Dr_Willis recipe seems the best one
[06:33] <barongas> Dr_Willis, thanks, I'll try that
[06:33] <barongas> erUSUL, agreed.
[06:33] <nekron> farruinn yeah, but the xmms is ok or not?
[06:33] <richie_> Everyone that uses xmms, try beep-media-player, you wont regret it!!!
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> xmms works good :P
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> but this is linux - use what you like.
[06:34] <richie_> beep-media-player is sexy :)
[06:34] <nekron> yeah.. but nobody says me.. xmms is ok on ubuntu?
[06:34] <richie_> it is
[06:34] <erUSUL> j0sh, i'm afraid that yes :(
[06:34] <richie_> alrite for me :P
[06:34] <nekron> okz :}
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> define
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> define  "ok" - xmms has worked for linux for years. :P
[06:35] <farruinn> anyone have any showstopping problems installing breezy on an iBook?
[06:35] <Splinter> linkd even my router cant ping
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> farruinn,  it workd ok on my imac-dv :P \
[06:36] <farruinn> Dr_Willis: hmm... that's a different animal... but that works for me!
[06:36] <farruinn> laters
[06:37] <barongas> xmms and beep have always crashed for me, I'm using totem cause there's no hassle.
[06:37] <richie_> beep-media-player support video?
[06:37] <EvilPaddy> Everytime I reply to an email in Evolution, I get a copy of the mail coming back to my inbox, like its CC'ing me on the reply - How do I stop this?
[06:37] <barongas> err not totem. The music player
[06:37] <j0sh> erUSUL: ok thanks well it says gimp-print is the best driver
[06:37] <j0sh> erUSUL: I ran apt-get install cupsys-driver-gimpprint-data and it says that it is already the newest version
[06:38] <erUSUL> j0sh, so there is actually a driver...
[06:38] <EvilPaddy> Everytime I reply to an email in Evolution, I get a copy of the mail coming back to my inbox, like its CC'ing me on the reply - How do I stop this?
[06:38] <j0sh> erUSUL: yeah gimp-print....but apparently I've already got it, my printer is still not listed when I try go to print from any app though
[06:39] <j0sh> erUSUL: is ther anyway to perform a check for new hardware...sorry I just switched to Linux
[06:40] <nagual>  What would I put in my smb.conf to make a directory writeable?  I thought it was writable = yes, but I cannot write to the file.
[06:40] <erUSUL> j0sh, System->Administration->Printers does not work?
[06:40] <richie_> nagual: check ubuntuguide.org
[06:41] <erUSUL> j0sh, or worked?
[06:41] <erUSUL> nagual, check unix permissions
[06:42] <j0sh> erUSUL: ok sorry I was being a n00b, I didn't even notice that was there
[06:42] <freemanen> how do install java 1.5 sdk on ubuntu
[06:42] <flogiston> Firefox shutsdown when trying to play a wm videostream.
[06:42] <flogiston> I have Mplayer plugin.
[06:43] <erUSUL> j0sh, we all have been n00bs, no shame on that... ;)
[06:43] <j0sh> erUSUL: haha thanks, apparently all I have to do now is dl the driver and pointer the Add printer to it
[06:44] <Ninjew> Hey, how do I get my fonts to get hinted like they do in Fedora: http://linux-blog.org/uploads/Reviews/nostreamingmusic.png?
[06:44] <EvilPaddy> Anyone know of an alternative to connecting to MS Exchange other than Evolution?
[06:46] <barongas> Anyone managed to get mplayer-plugin to work in opera yet?
[06:47] <richie_> Why use opera?
[06:47] <tiredbones> I have Hoary now and would like to upgrade to Breezy,Is this going to be a pleasant experience? For those who have done this what should I watch out for?
[06:48] <richie_> You just put the CD in and it upgrades?
[06:48] <anthony> hey, im installing wine.. do I need to configure anything when im done? how do I know which windows apps I can run on my computer once im done installing?
[06:48] <richie_> not tried it but it sounds pretty easy
[06:48] <barongas> richie_, obviously the recent versions of firefox aren't that nice. Mine started complaining as soon as it hit a javascript
[06:49] <chavo> anthony, google will help tons in figuring out which apps work with wine
[06:49] <richie_> anthony: works fine for me with alot of things
[06:49] <richie_> barongas: what site you have problems with?
[06:50] <spudse> Can I do a second install of ubuntu (server this time) and will grub see the other ubuntu and make dual boot ?
[06:50] <anthony> richie_, im using apt-get install wine
[06:50] <anthony> would I have to do anything after that or can I attempt to download something??
[06:50] <richie_> anthony: that should do it, check out xwine too
[06:51] <barongas> richie_, It was rarlabs.com, all the download links failed and then I saw the same errors on some other websites and switched to opera
[06:51] <richie_> barongas: fine for me, thats odd?
[06:52] <barongas> Yeah, for me it was right after clean install as well
[06:52] <barongas> I could try it again
[06:52] <richie_> barongas: I only installed yesterday
[06:52] <doubletwist> Anyone else here get an error on boot complaining about mdrun?
[06:52] <richie_> Used linux for a fair amount of time tho
[06:52] <doubletwist>  mdrun: eval: line 104: syntax error near unexpected token `then'
[06:52] <silasj> hi all.
[06:53] <doubletwist> in breezy?
[06:53] <silasj> hey guys, what is package of X development files? I need Xlib.h...
[06:53] <barongas> richie_, heh, worked perfect now
[06:53] <doubletwist> That's on a clean install
[06:53] <richie_> doubletwist: il look it up
[06:53] <barongas> richie_, maybe cause I hadn't messed enough with my repositories at that time and upgraded to some weird version or sumn
[06:54] <richie_> The mdrun program is the main computational chemistry engine within GROMACS.
[06:54] <richie_> what the hell ?
[06:54] <_jason> barongas:  by recent version are your eferring to 1.0.7 or 1.5b2?
[06:54] <doubletwist> Um
[06:54] <chavo> silasj, try x-window-system-dev
[06:54] <doubletwist> no its not...
[06:54] <richie_> sorry
[06:54] <richie_> lol
[06:54] <richie_> mdrun - autodetect and activate all raid partitions.
[06:54] <richie_> do you have a raid?
[06:54] <silasj> Chavo, I will, thank you.
[06:54] <doubletwist> Yeah that's the one :)
[06:54] <tralalala> hello!
[06:55] <doubletwist> I'm not using the software raid, no.
[06:55] <richie_> You could just disable it
[06:55] <tralalala> Im using ubuntu hoary livecd in a amd64... is it possible to install wine?
[06:55] <spudse> Does someone know some Rox Filer alternatives ?
[06:55] <barongas> _jason, 1,07 atm
[06:55] <doubletwist> I can and will, but is no one else getting that problem?
[06:55] <barongas> _jason, 1.0.7 even
[06:55] <erUSUL> tralalala, not in the livecd
[06:55] <doubletwist> If its just me, then there might be something else odd on my install.
[06:55] <richie_> Not me
[06:55] <richie_> Dont have a raid mobo
[06:56] <_jason> barongas:  well I never had a javascript problem with ff but 1.5 looks really good... seems like they cleaned up a lot of code
[06:56] <tralalala> erUSUL: in the live cd I can install anything else trhu apt, why  not wine? the prblem is its a amd64
[06:56] <morale> i cannot find on the wiki what ${EXTEN:4} refers to.. does that mean the last 4 digits of the dialed numbre?
[06:56] <tralalala> dpkg: error processing wine_0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--install):
[06:56] <tralalala>  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[06:56] <richie_> Oh yes
[06:56] <WildZeck> lol
[06:56] <richie_> Theres a new version of wine
[06:57] <ecobuntu> what's the add/remove application GUI in GNOME called?  not Synaptic but the other GUI
[06:57] <tralalala> where do I find the amnd64 bit wine
[06:57] <richie_> are they working on a package update?
[06:57] <richie_> like 0.9 or something
[06:57] <qiHEWSfi> hi
[06:57] <nagual> ok.  One last question.  I have all my samba problems fixed.  I have my web page up but when I type in the address i get a listing of the files.  My index page is called index.htm and I have added this to the Directory index of apache2.conf.  Any suggestions on getting it to bring up my page?
[06:57] <doubletwist> And why does it try to remove my kernel when I apt-get remove mdadm?
[06:57] <_jason> ecobuntu:  gnome-app-install ?
[06:58] <doubletwist> Who came up with that dependancy?
[06:58] <anthony> hey richie_
[06:58] <anthony> I installed wine
[06:58] <anthony> but when I download a .exe
[06:58] <ecobuntu> yup!  thnkas!
[06:58] <anthony> and try to open it, it says it cant be displayed
[06:58] <richie_> ant: yes?
[06:58] <anthony> can anyone help me please?
[06:58] <nagual> NM.  Forgot to reload the webserver
[06:58] <richie_> did you do wine <filename>
[06:59] <richie_> in terminal?
[06:59] <anthony> hrmf
[06:59] <anthony> no
[06:59] <tralalala> so is it not possible to install wine in a amd64?
[06:59] <anthony> okay I did wine file.exe
[06:59] <anthony> i see a bunch of scrolling
[06:59] <anthony> what do I do now?
[06:59] <richie_> paste output in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:59] <anthony> its _ALOT_
[07:00] <anthony> heh
[07:00] <richie_> thats why i said to use pastebin
[07:00] <richie_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:00] <anthony> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3656
[07:00] <anthony> thats only half of it
[07:01] <anthony> It just hangs there and does nothing.
[07:01] <richie_> what are you trying to run exactly?
[07:01] <bastardkestrel> hi
[07:01] <anthony> www.stardevelop.com
[07:01] <anthony> that
[07:01] <bastardkestrel> my evolution mail program wont open
[07:01] <anthony> www.commit1.com
[07:01] <anthony> which runs there
[07:01] <anthony> and I work for commit1
[07:01] <anthony> so it's important that I have this installed
[07:02] <richie_> hmm a setup exe then?
[07:02] <bastardkestrel> is evolution working? i cant open it?
[07:02] <richie_> paste the bottom half anthony
[07:02] <gildo> what do you mean setup the exe?
[07:03] <gildo> rich
[07:03] <gildo> that is the bottom half
[07:03] <tralalala> bastardkestrel: what happens when u trt to open it from the terminal?
[07:03] <gildo> it hangs right there
[07:03] <richie_> oh ok
[07:03] <joey__> hello
[07:03] <bastardkestrel> tralalala: crap i just used it, first a couple sent mails dissapeared now it wont open
[07:04] <richie_> anthony: windows server on linux?
[07:04] <joey__> if i install hoary can i upgrade to breezy? how?
[07:04] <tralalala> is it possible to install wine on amd64?
[07:04] <bastardkestrel> tralalala: nothing wont open
[07:04] <tralalala> bastardkestrel: killall evolution; evolution
[07:04] <bastardkestrel> tralalala: i got soem important messages there
[07:05] <tralalala> bastardkestrel: can't help you then. sory
[07:05] <bastardkestrel> tralalala: thanks it worked
[07:05] <bastardkestrel> tralalala:  is it a graphic problem
[07:05] <gildo> richie_, linux serer
[07:06] <bastardkestrel> tralalala:  i use nvidia
[07:06] <bastardkestrel> tralalala: the last time this happened i could not get back into gnome even
[07:06] <tralalala> f*ck sake...can't install wine on amd64 arch
[07:06] <tralalala> ??
[07:06] <bastardkestrel> anybody got problems with evolution crashing??
[07:07] <bastardkestrel> going to kmail
[07:07] <snooo> hey ppl
[07:08] <snooo> what programs provided with ubuntu could rip a playstation disc to a bin/cue file? i'm using pcsx, and i have a playstation already so this is legit
[07:08] <assasukasse> hi all
[07:08] <bastardkestrel> i noticed if i remove glx for nvidia it wont crash
[07:08] <assasukasse> does anyone know what are the system resources needed for installing ubuntu? minimum of course
[07:09] <ufc> how can I mount windows drives that they will be mounted after I restart the system?
[07:09] <bastardkestrel> crap
[07:09] <jonlleviathan> Hi guys im looking for some help in installing wine/cedega the free stuff... can anyone help !?
[07:09] <rekrutacja> hi all do you know how to switch ubuntu laptop to external monitor?
[07:09] <bastardkestrel> got an electric shock just now
[07:10] <digs> is there any skype package for ubuntu?
[07:10] <paradox78> hi.. how can i de-install certain software completely in ubunutu?
[07:10] <rekrutacja> digs there is on skype website
[07:10] <ufc> paradox78,  use package manager
[07:10] <digs> i tried to install debian package
[07:10] <BluesRocker> digs, use apt-get for skype
[07:10] <paradox78> and what about the dependencies?
[07:11] <Nick_Hill> snooo, I don't think most people here will moralise whether it is legit. However, I think a cue file is a CDRwin-specific file type. You can easily rip a CD to a .iso.
[07:11] <digs> apt-get from ubuntu repos?
[07:11] <BluesRocker> digs, apt-get install skype
[07:11] <ufc> +sudo
[07:11] <rekrutacja> please help us, this is critical issue -  we got an ubuntu presentation and  cannot connect beamer to laptop
[07:11] <snooo> Nick_Hill: okies. any faves as to regards what to use? i just found graveman...
[07:11] <digs> it says that doesn't exist
[07:12] <jenda> What is it you need help with?
[07:12] <digs> i'm using breezy
[07:12] <digs> and got multiverse and universe repos configured
[07:12] <Nick_Hill> rekrutacja, Have you checked whether the laptop has a button cycling between external VGA and internal monitor?
[07:12] <rekrutacja> jenda how to tell ubuntu laptop to switch to external monitor/mbeamer
[07:12] <BluesRocker> use extra respositories?
[07:12] <BluesRocker> digs, use extra respositories?
[07:12] <ufc> rekrutacja, one whay is to keep laptop screen closet so default is VGA
[07:12] <Nick_Hill> rekrutacja, on an IBM thnkpad, it is Fn F7
[07:12] <digs> no ;( i'm new to ubuntu, don't know extra repos
[07:13] <digs> for it
[07:13] <rekrutacja> Nick_Hill, it hp dv1000
[07:13] <Nick_Hill> closing the laptop screen should cause macnine to hibernate
[07:13] <jonlleviathan> Can someone help me install free cedega ?
[07:13] <BluesRocker> digs, http://ubuntuguide.org/
[07:13] <Nick_Hill> rekrutacja, Are there any legends along the F keys which look like a monitor symbol?
[07:13] <digs> thanks
[07:14] <NoUse> !ubuntuguide
[07:14] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[07:14] <jenda> digs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28repositories%29
[07:14] <ufc> Nick_Hill,  not when u are booting
[07:14] <snooo> Nick_Hill: which doesnt seem to work...
[07:14] <rekrutacja> Nick_Hill, just a minute
[07:14] <cycom> Nick_Hill: and whoever else: you may want to check your bios settings to see if there are settings for on screen close and video output
[07:14] <jenda> digs: do not use ubuntuguide, it is old
[07:14] <BluesRocker> can somebody help me with nvtv? :)
[07:14] <Subliminal> what files (outside of home directories) should i backup? so far xorg.conf, fstab and mtab
[07:14] <jenda> digs: use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:14] <jonlleviathan> can i get help installing free cedega/wine ?
[07:15] <tralalala> f*ck sake...can't install wine on amd64 arch?
[07:15] <shekhar> hello can someone help me out with gtkwifi applet?
[07:15] <digs> the extra repos is the backports ?
[07:15] <DaveRag> Anybody can help me with setting up a webserver in Ubuntu?  I want to host websites on it so I have to enter nameservers in my registrar... how do i do this?
[07:15] <gpled> having trouble getting x window working on amd64.  x window works under knoppix.  this is a new install.  have run apt-get update and upgrade.  any ideas?
[07:15] <NoUse> jonlleviathan which one cedega or wine? wine is just sudo apt-get install wine
[07:15] <jenda> digs: no. Just Universe and Multiverse
[07:15] <jonlleviathan> well whichever one i can play gmaes with
[07:15] <Nick_Hill> snooo, I have only ripped (non-playsataion) CDs as isos. There may be aother apps, but don't know about them. (There are 15,000+ packages for debian-like systems).
[07:15] <jonlleviathan> i think i need both
[07:15] <digs> i'm using them
[07:15] <rekrutacja> Nick_Hill, no there is nothing loike that
[07:15] <digs> but in 5.10
[07:15] <jonlleviathan> Wine/Cedega: Cedega CVS
[07:16] <jonlleviathan> i see some tutorials but im gonna need help with them...
[07:16] <jenda> digs: In 5.10, no backports yet
[07:16] <snooo> Nick_Hill: okie. seems to need non standard software, but i think ive found a howto. cheers anywya
[07:16] <snooo> anyway*
[07:16] <NoUse> jonlleviathan I think that Cedega CVS doesn't have the licenced software that allows you to play certain games
[07:16] <taotime> anybody know how to install gcc it did not install by default
[07:16] <digs> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[07:16] <Nick_Hill> rekrutacja, Just to make sure, you have a Laptop, Ubuntu works well on there. You plug a ptojector into the VGA port, nothing comes up on projector.
[07:16] <gildo> can someone tell me how i would install limewire on ubuntu?
[07:16] <digs> that's what i'm using
[07:16] <jenda> taotime: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:16] <jonlleviathan> Well how can i check >
[07:17] <BluesRocker> I get this message when trying tv out: Fatal: Cannot find 'Normal' mode 800 x 600
[07:17] <alexandros> have anyone had success installing opera?
[07:17] <NoUse> jonlleviathan google
[07:17] <jenda> gildo: look at the forums. There is a good howto
[07:17] <unitizacao1> fvbhfbsadl
[07:17] <jonlleviathan> ?
[07:17] <gildo> jenda,  got a link?
[07:17] <Cookie> jemand hier der auch deutsch redet?
[07:17] <Nick_Hill> rekrutacja, Do you have another laptop to verify projector works? Otherwise you could try changing resolution, in case projector doesn't work witht he refresh rate/ resolution your laptop uses.
[07:17] <jenda> gildo: wait a sec - I'll get it for you
[07:17] <jonlleviathan> I wanna play like AA
[07:18] <NoUse> jonlleviathan search google, I don't know that much about cedega
[07:18] <gildo> thanks
[07:18] <Nick_Hill> !de
[07:18] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[07:18] <jonlleviathan> so does anyone here use ubuntu to play games ?
[07:18] <tralalala> !pt
[07:18] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:18] <taotime> jenda: hey this is cool, i like ubuntu, always loved debian also.
[07:18] <Cookie> thx @ ubotu
[07:19] <jenda> jonlleviathan: You'll have to compile it if you don't want to pay...
[07:19] <jonlleviathan> so is there guides on compiling ?
[07:19] <jenda> gildo: do you have java installed?
[07:19] <jonlleviathan> Im a total freking n00b
[07:20] <NoUse> jonlleviathan if you are a noob you shouldn't compile
[07:20] <jonlleviathan> true say... how should i get started than ?
[07:20] <NoUse> jonlleviathan just get the cedgea binary
[07:20] <dave> in
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> or spend a day reading a few tutorials.
[07:20] <dave> Hi
[07:20] <erUSUL> jonlleviathan, then you shoul not compile
[07:20] <gildo> jenda,  I dont think so
[07:20] <gildo> how do I install java?
[07:20] <jenda> jonlleviathan: I dont really know but for noobs, compilation is a no no
[07:20] <jenda> gildo OK
[07:20] <gildo> heh ;/
[07:20] <gpled> anyone having trouble getting memtest to work from amd64 cd?
[07:20] <_jason> !tell gildo about java
[07:21] <jonlleviathan> well .... is my linux dream goen then >
[07:21] <richie_> why dont the tell thing work anymore?
[07:21] <richie_> or does only gildo see the msg :P
[07:21] <NoUse> jonlleviathan get the cedega binary
[07:21] <dave> Please advise st. to need classical password to super user
[07:22] <_jason> richie_:  it msg him
[07:22] <jenda> gildo: JAVA howto - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php
[07:22] <tralalala> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:22] <jonlleviathan> how so nouse ?
[07:22] <jonlleviathan> i dont want to pay !
[07:22] <jonlleviathan> lol
[07:22] <NoUse> jonlleviathan well thats where your problem lies I think
[07:22] <tarheelcoxn> dave: use "sudo" instead
[07:22] <jenda> gildo: oops - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76754
[07:23] <richie_> !tell me about nvidia
[07:23] <jonlleviathan> .... yeah sure it does but isnt there guides on ubuntu's database on compiling cvs ?
[07:23] <_jason> richie_:  you can just /msg ubotu nvidia (to reduce on channel chatter)
[07:23] <jenda> gildo: LimeWire HOWTO - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76754
[07:23] <NoUse> jonlleviathan don't compile stuff, I'm sure you can find cedega on bittorent or something
[07:23] <richie_> It dont reply?
[07:23] <richie_> mayeb it dont know that
[07:23] <jonlleviathan> and wont i still have to pay ?
[07:24] <dave> Please advise st. to need classical password to super user PLEASE
[07:24] <dave> Please advise st. to need classical password to super user PLEASE
[07:24] <richie_> want it to give information on nividia-glx
[07:24] <jenda> jonlleviathan: I thnk you will
[07:24] <_jason> dave:  what?
[07:24] <dave> Please advise st. to need classical password to SUDO PLEASE
[07:24] <NoUse> jonlleviathan if you download it off bittorrent, then no
[07:24] <_jason> dave:  stop repeating
[07:24] <jenda> dave: You set that during installation
[07:24] <NoUse> jonlleviathan but is $15 really out of the question?
[07:24] <dave> please help
[07:24] <_jason> dave:  clarify what you mean
[07:24] <jonlleviathan> yep ... plus i wanna learn stuff
[07:25] <gildo> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:25] <gildo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:25] <gildo> is only available from another source
[07:25] <gildo> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[07:25] <_jason> !tell dave about sudo
[07:25] <jenda> gildo: I see gimme a while
[07:25] <_jason> dave:  read what ubotu sent you
[07:25] <NoUse> jonlleviathan learn stuff by compiling free software, don't steal software from a company that helps you play games on Linux
[07:25] <dave> PLEASE HELP PLEASE HELP PLEASE HELP
[07:25] <mr> can anybody help me?
[07:26] <dave> JELP ME.
[07:26] <dave> HELP ME:
[07:26] <gildo> ?
[07:26] <mr> i want to compile a program with linux
[07:26] <_jason> dave:  did you read what ubotu sent you?
[07:26] <mula`> kick me?
[07:26] <richie_> !tell gildo about respritories
[07:26] <tristanmike> dave, please stop using caps
[07:26] <richie_> lol oops
[07:26] <jonlleviathan> well unfortunatly thats my task ... since its in my way of playing "free" games
[07:26] <ufc> Where can I find breezy  extra reporities?
[07:26] <jenda> gildo: did you try the HOWTO on  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76754
[07:26] <mr> im a very new linux user
[07:26] <NoUse> jonlleviathan ok well I can't help you
[07:27] <jenda> ufc: use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:27] <barongas> mr What kind of program do you want to compile?
[07:27] <gildo> yes
[07:27] <jenda> jonlleviathan: free games?
[07:27] <mr> mplayer
[07:27] <tristanmike> !tell gildo about javadeb
[07:27] <gildo> its telling me to do that
[07:27] <jonlleviathan> so even if i install this free cedega it wotn work >?
[07:27] <jonlleviathan> ofllowing this guide You can use a CVS version of cedega (this is free),
[07:27] <NoUse> jonlleviathan https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[07:27] <dave> _jason need classical passwoed from SUDO
[07:27] <jonlleviathan> yah im there
[07:27] <jenda> gildo: can you tell after which command it gives you the error?
[07:28] <_jason> dave:  when sudo asks you for your password it is thje same as your user password
[07:28] <NoUse> jonlleviathan follow those intructions, but thats all I know about Cedega
[07:28] <mr> i have downloaded a tar.bz2 archive
[07:28] <barongas> mr Are you sure you need to compile it? In ubuntu you can you synaptic to find most programs without compiling.
[07:28] <Seveas> dave, we have told you numerous times how sudo works
[07:28] <mr> i dont know quite anything
[07:28] <tralalala> can't I install wine on amd64 arch?
[07:28] <Seveas> mr, get mplayer from the repositories instead of compiling yourself
[07:28] <erUSUL> dave, i'm afraid that noone here understand what you're asking for
[07:28] <Seveas> !tell mr about mplayer
[07:29] <jonlleviathan> im going to need someone to walk me thru installing cedega...
[07:29] <gildo> jenda
[07:29] <gildo> i showed you the error, scroll up
[07:29] <bastardkestrel> evolution crashed and i lost my desktop background
[07:29] <jonlleviathan> mebe ill try later
[07:29] <gildo> its saying the package isn't there
[07:29] <zion115> just got my wine up running :)
[07:29] <nicklas> Currently setting up ndiswrapper, but when i do a ndiswrapper -l it says driver present, but not that my hardware is present.. Got any tips?
[07:29] <tralalala> zion115: on a amd64??
[07:29] <Rich43> what card nicklas?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> jonlleviathan,  theres several pages out that tell ya how to use the cvs stuff - or spend the  $15 or so and regiester/license it for a few mo.
[07:29] <mr> hmm
[07:29] <zion115> nope soz
[07:29] <Rich43> nicklas: what card u settin up?
[07:30] <nicklas> rich43 its a linksys WPC54 V. 2
[07:30] <jonlleviathan> well will that free cvs work for me ?
[07:30] <jenda> gildo: which COMMAND did you issue to get that error?
[07:30] <jonlleviathan> i have foudn several tuts on installing it
[07:30] <jonlleviathan> one on the wiki
[07:30] <zion115> tralalala doesnt synaptic work ?
[07:30] <nicklas> rich43 Correction: its a linksys WPC54G V. 2
[07:30] <tralalala> zion115: doesn't find wine...
[07:30] <jenda> gildo: I'll guide you: download this: http://jdl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=10274
[07:31] <barongas> jonlleviathan, There's no guarantees that the cvs cedega will work
[07:31] <jonlleviathan> not aksing for a guarantee...
[07:31] <zion115> did you try wineHQ
[07:31] <zion115> ?
[07:31] <tralalala> yes
[07:31] <jenda> gildo?
[07:31] <gildo> yes, downloading
[07:31] <zion115> dunno then
[07:32] <jenda> gildo: OK
[07:32] <zion115> how do you change font color?
[07:32] <jonlleviathan> i found cedega on limewire
[07:32] <Marupa> Hi, I just tried to install ubuntu, and, when I started the install, it ran through all the initializations, but froze on ACPI: Processor [CPU]  (supports 8 throttling states)   It's been frozen for a day, and I don't know what I need to change to get it to work.
[07:32] <Rich43> nicklas: works with me belkin without drivers, tried System --> Administration --> Networking first?
[07:32] <jonlleviathan> is it a 7,470kb file ?
[07:32] <erUSUL> zion115, which aplication? whole gnome? title bars? ???????????
[07:32] <Rich43> Ubuntu's wireless support must be the best in linux
[07:32] <barongas> jonlleviathan, Something like that, either a .deb file or tar.gz file
[07:32] <Rich43> that i have used
[07:32] <nicklas> rich43: well, ubuntu can't find the card.
[07:33] <Rich43> :O
[07:33] <zion115> dont worry .. how do i set up sound for quake3?
[07:33] <mula`> !sources
[07:33] <ubotu> sources is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[07:33] <jonlleviathan> its a tgz
[07:33] <jenda> jonlleviathan: that is illegal and WRONG
[07:33] <erUSUL> Marupa, boot with acpi=off or noacpi kernel option
[07:33] <jonlleviathan> ok >
[07:33] <gildo> jenda,
[07:33] <mula`> !sources breezy
[07:33] <ubotu> mula`: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:33] <gildo> its done.
[07:33] <jonlleviathan> ubotu tell jena about me
[07:34] <Sagrath79> c
[07:34] <xukun> are there problems installing vmware on breezy, or can I just go ahead installing it?
[07:34] <labluez> I just installed ubuntu for the first time
[07:34] <labluez> is there a default password for root
[07:34] <nicklas> Got any tips on a pcmcia wireless network card, that ubuntu support automaticly?
[07:34] <_jason> !tell labluez about sudo
[07:34] <jenda> labluez: no. you set that on installation
[07:34] <labluez> it didnt ask
[07:34] <erUSUL> !tell labluez about sudo
[07:34] <Marupa> thanks.
[07:34] <Rich43> nicklas: try a belkin?
[07:34] <Rich43> I have a PCI card, other cards should use similar chipset
[07:35] <esad> hi
[07:35] <vbgunz> hello all, 've just reached the end of the "man ssh" page in the console... How do I break out of it and get back to the command line? I am pressing Ctrl+C but nothing s happening
[07:35] <mr> barongas  i've downloaded      MPlayer-1.0pre7try2.tar.bz2
[07:35] <_jason> vbgunz:  q
[07:35] <erUSUL> vbgunz, q for quit
[07:35] <xukun> vbgunz, :q
[07:35] <mr> and the file is on my desktop
[07:36] <labluez> so root password ...anyone?
[07:36] <esad> i have probkem with inst of the gdesklet on ubuntu 5.1
[07:36] <Marupa> yay!  that worked!  thanks!
[07:36] <tiefox> hmmm...nautilus is crashing when i try to copy some directory's from sftp
[07:36] <vbgunz> excellent, q quits it but is there anyway to keep it on screen with me outside of opening up a new tab or a new console?
[07:36] <jenda> labluez: what do you need it for? If you use sudo, all you need is your pwd
[07:36] <tiefox> any idea?
[07:36] <barongas> mr, if you want mplayer installed easily go to system/administration/synaptic
[07:36] <xukun> anybody using vmware on breezy host?
[07:36] <mr> hmm okay i try
[07:36] <tiefox> xukun: yes
[07:37] <erUSUL> vbgunz, no
[07:37] <barongas> Then search for mplayer
[07:37] <mr> it is diffucult to write the commands for the console?
[07:37] <labluez> I just booted the thing up first time
[07:37] <Marupa> well, I will return if and when I have a problem!
[07:37] <labluez> said there was updates
[07:37] <labluez> when clicked on show updates
[07:37] <vbgunz> erUSUL: thank you! and thanks to _jason and xukun, q is the answer!
[07:37] <labluez> asked for root password
[07:37] <jenda> try your own pwd
[07:37] <labluez> and in general I would like to know
[07:37] <xukun> tiefox, did you had any problems installing it? and which version of vmware are you using
[07:38] <erUSUL> labluez, there is no root pass in ubuntu
[07:38] <erUSUL> labluez, you've been told about sudo.. use it
[07:38] <labluez> so is everyuser able to root
[07:38] <barongas> mr no, you can just write sudo apt-get install mplayer-(architecture) where (architecture) is what kind of computer architecture you have - 386 - 586 k7 etc
[07:38] <jenda> erUSUL: there is in Breezy
[07:38] <soce_32> vbgunz: export PAGER="less -X" the -X flag for less will keep text on the screen
[07:39] <_Din> hay
[07:39] <erUSUL> labluez, no only the ones in the sudoers file
[07:39] <vbgunz> oh just one more question... I am being told to check out " ssh-agent(1) AND  ssh-agent(8)" for more specific information but putting into the console "man ssh-agent(1)"  OR  "man ssh-agent(8)" doesn't do anything... how do I jump to those man references?
[07:39] <FJ_Sanchez> Hi everybody
[07:39] <mr> barongas is this everything?
[07:39] <_Din> am is there possible to add ipv6 configuration to linux that way that i wouldn't need to set it each reboot
[07:39] <vbgunz> soce_32: I was just learning about more and less... that is interesting, thank you!
[07:40] <soce_32> vbgunz:  man 8 ssh-agent
[07:40] <vbgunz> soce_32: ok I will try that
[07:40] <barongas> mr, Yeah, for me with a 386 computer just write sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 and enter my password
[07:40] <FJ_Sanchez> How can I use uim and anthy to input japanese? I don't wan't to install SCIM because I don't use gnome/KDE
[07:40] <FJ_Sanchez> Can anybody help me?
[07:40] <mr> pentium 4 is 586?
[07:40] <erUSUL> vbgunz, you put the (1) and (8) get rid of them
[07:40] <bastardkestrel> is evolution the preffered email client or is there something else?
[07:40] <jenda> mr: I believe it's 686
[07:41] <mr> ok
[07:41] <jonlleviathan> can anyone tell me why sometimes ubuntu detects my temperatures at 60 and 70C and shuts down before it gets to the login screen
[07:41] <vbgunz> ok man 8 ssh doesn't work, lemme try ssh-agent like you recommended... maybe that is it
[07:41] <bofh80> Anyone having problems with the installation? after reboot, it's says Preparing Installation at 0%. apt-get has hung at 99/100 cpu, and nothing happens, if i kill apt-get it appears that i have to install some stuff manually, (apt-get etc), sleecting all the right options, still won't work. anyone know why the install hangs?
[07:41] <jonlleviathan> It says System Critical Temperature REached (65C)  and it will shut down
[07:42] <soce_32> vbgunz:  ssh-keysign(8), sshd(8) are the ones at the end of the ssh man page
[07:42] <Answer> Anybody know WinSCP?  I would like a gui SCP client like that for ubuntu
[07:42] <ofer0> i installed hoary with the "server" option, that means i installed nothing but APT, the kernel, coreutils and basic stuff like that. anyways, i upgraded to breezy using dist-upgrade. i have a problem. i need the program called "network-admin" which my little brother has and i dont. my little brother installed his copy of Breezy using the official CD. what to do? i can't find a package called network-admin
[07:42] <jenda> jonlleviathan: did you clock your CPU manually?
[07:42] <soce_32> Answer: try gftp
[07:42] <Amaranth> Answer: nautilus does that, go to Places->Connect to server and for the server type choose ssh
[07:43] <Amaranth> Answer: then it'll show up in the Places menu and on your desktop
[07:43] <vbgunz> soce_32: ok, I think I have it, something else was being referenced *but* I did check out "man 1 ssh-agent" and it did bring something up... Very cool! Thank you!
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Answer,  winscp works very well. for me..  :P i think the gnome file manager can do simile rthings however. or remote mount scp systems.
[07:43] <_Din> hay anyone know about ipv6 anything
[07:43] <oidia> how do i play .rmvb files???
[07:43] <jonlleviathan> no this is stricly ubuntu detecting temps
[07:43] <jonlleviathan> everything is default
[07:43] <Answer> Amaranth:  what would be your second choice, if you didn't want to map drives.  I just want a one-time client sortof
[07:43] <FJ_Sanchez> How can I use uim and anthy to input japanese? I don't wan't to install SCIM because I don't use gnome/KDE
[07:44] <mr> rudi@rudolph:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer-586
[07:44] <mr> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:44] <mr> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:44] <mr> rudi@rudolph:~$
[07:44] <Answer> soce_32: gftp does scp ?
[07:44] <Answer> mr: killall synaptic
[07:44] <Amaranth> Answer: scp on the command line is about the only other option
[07:44] <bofh80> help on install? or debian is going on. i've burnt 10 cd's since i downloaded it. only 1 installation has gone through successfully. i even managed to be patient and wait for a disk to burn at 12X so the that the buffer never went.
[07:44] <vbgunz> mr: close out synpatic or add programs interfaces and try again
[07:44] <Answer> Amaranth: so windows has a gui scp program and linux doesn't? wth
[07:44] <Amaranth> Answer: or you can just point nautilus to sftp://user@host
[07:45] <soce_32> Answer: sftp, but similar in the way that it has the 2 pane interface for local/remote
[07:45] <oidia> how do i play .rmvb files???
[07:45] <Amaranth> Answer: gnome has one built right into the DE, that's what i'm telling you
[07:45] <Answer> Amaranth: it's not actually an sftp server, it's using scp over ssh port 22
[07:45] <barongas> mr, It's because synaptic is using the apt directory, synaptic is a frontend for apt and they can't be run at the same time.
[07:45] <Amaranth> oidia: sounds like you want realplayer
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Or use that ssh file system thinggie. :P i read about somehere.
[07:45] <oidia> ok ...
[07:45] <indypende> hi all!
[07:45] <Amaranth> Answer: i'm pretty sure nautilus can do the scp fallback if sftp doesn't work, just like winscp
[07:45] <zion115> hi
[07:45] <Amaranth> Answer: just try it
[07:45] <magoseitor> guys, hello.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if 'mc' can do scp that way..
[07:46] <Answer> soce_32: the 2 pane gui is what I want.. i'll look for gftp
[07:46] <[TheRookie] > hi to all
[07:46] <soce_32> Answer: ssh/scp/sftp are all part of the same daemon, usually if you can do one, you can do all
[07:46] <magoseitor> could please ayone tell me where does ubuntu create the network divices? in my case eth0 and wlan0
[07:46] <Palint> How do you find the USB ports?  I can't seem to point gnome-pilot in the right direction!
[07:46] <Amaranth> magoseitor: /dev, iirc
[07:47] <peace> Tag
[07:47] <bofh80> wow. this is good. watching everyone help newbies use mplayer and work out where /dev is. and all i want to know is why apt-get hangs during the install.
[07:47] <Palint> I did the /dev but could not find them - no ttyUSB0
[07:47] <magoseitor> Amaranth, my problem is that i can't find them anywhere
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> bofh80,  servers maybe over loaded..
[07:47] <erUSUL> Amaranth, network hardware do not get device files
[07:47] <Answer> soce_32, Amaranth: thanks, I think gftp or nautilus will suffice
[07:47] <Amaranth> bofh80: If someone knows, they will usually answer. If you need more than that you could try paid support.
[07:47] <bofh80> Dr_Willis after 10 attempts and stupid amounts of cd's wasted, i'd like to know if other people experience this problem. besides if i run apt-get afterwards it works fine.
[07:48] <bofh80> it's the latest download 5.10
[07:48] <vbgunz> I have an interesting question... I just did "man ssh"... I learned from more and/or less commands that if I put in a / I could search the document... What would be the equivalent to F3 to continue searching without actually having to manually input the search string again?
[07:48] <erUSUL> magoseitor, they do not get created use ifconfig -a to list them
[07:48] <OneSeventeen> weird, a simple upgrade worked on my laptop!
[07:48] <bluefrog-10> my processor is I686. ubuntu keeps on installing I386. Should I care or am I just wasting chasing ghosts?
[07:48] <bofh80> i've got debians net install coming down. ii'm using it.
[07:48] <vbgunz> forget it
[07:48] <jonlleviathan> I need help installing cedega....
[07:48] <Amaranth> bluefrog-10: Only the 386 kernel is on the CD, there isn't room to fit all of them.
[07:48] <bofh80> bluefrog-10 , should be fine. check apt-get afterwards
[07:48] <vbgunz> I see what happened.. pretty cool but all search terms are actually highlighted
[07:49] <vbgunz> nice
[07:49] <jessid> hello. Some of you know how can I do to execute a script when I double click the icon? I mean: I want to run a command that is in some directory, o in the script I write cd /my/directory and then write the command...
[07:49] <Amaranth> bluefrog-10: If you want the 686 one afterward you can get it with synaptic or apt-get
[07:49] <oly> hi, having a prob alsa seems locked is there a way i can tell what has the lock as nothing plays sound, and rebooting does not help ?
[07:49] <magoseitor> how not??? until now i have always had them in /dev/net/eth0 (other distros)
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> !cedega
[07:49] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[07:49] <kemik> vbgunz: you can jump to the next tho
[07:49] <jonlleviathan> cedega_4.4.1-1_i386.deb ive got this file and it wont dpkg
[07:49] <vbgunz> kemik: how?
[07:49] <jessid> how can I do to make the terminal to keep open after the command has run?
[07:49] <vbgunz> kemik: whats up, long time no see bro
[07:49] <bluefrog-10> Amaranth, is it that important to put i686 to your opinion?
[07:49] <vbgunz> kemik: appreciate it :)
[07:49] <oly> it happened after messing around with jackd
[07:49] <jonlleviathan> i cant install the debian file...
[07:49] <Abraxas> hi, got some major issues... upgraded ubuntu through changing the repositories and doing an upgrade..a week later...an issue from nvidia driver mismatches causes me to reinstall them...then suddenly gdm gives me a blank error log even when i use the nv driver instead of nvidia...
[07:49] <Amaranth> bluefrog-10: Some people think it makes their computer run faster, I've never noticed a difference.
[07:49] <zion115> does any1 know how to acitvate your sound for quake3?
[07:49] <kemik> vbgunz: "n" > next
[07:49] <bofh80> bluefrog-10 (i think) i found one of the boot options was for a 686 kernel. can't remember. normally you ahve to type linux26 at the boot cd prompt or something. maybe not on ubuntu tho
[07:49] <vbgunz> kemik: lemme try it out
[07:50] <kemik> vbgunz: so /searchword<enter><n>
[07:50] <Amaranth> bofh80: Only the 386 kernel is on the install CD.
[07:50] <bluefrog-10> Amaranth, haven't seen a difference either.
[07:50] <vbgunz> kemik: sweet, it does work, thank you bro1
[07:50] <tristanmike> jessid, I believe "&" at the end of the command is what you're looking for
[07:50] <kemik> vbgunz: my computer is sort of broken
[07:50] <zion115> any1?
[07:50] <Abraxas> now i can't get X up (though the beautiful grahpical startup works right) and i'm stuck here in windows due to unwillingness to try to install ircii
[07:50] <OneSeventeen> oops, upgrade didn't work... the gnome menus don't pop up, they just highlight the title if I click on them...
[07:50] <kemik> first i thought it was the 2.6 kernel
[07:50] <bluefrog-10> bofh80, both kernels are on the server disk I think
[07:50] <kemik> but it seems it's either my RAM or my mobo :/
[07:51] <jessid> tristanmike that is to run in the back ground, isnt' it?
[07:51] <Bergcube> I'm doing a Ubuntu server install, from the specialized server CD.  From what I've read on the Ubuntu users mailing-list it sounds like /WEBMIN/ is a good tool for administration.  ( Is there any better / preferred alternatives? )  Will /LINKS/ be sufficient to access webmin on Localhost or is there another console web-browser better suited?
[07:51] <xukun> is there realy nobody who point me a good howto for installing vmware on breezy?
[07:51] <Novagenesis> I have a feeling nothing i typed worked because the name was taken, so i'll retype..sorry if it was
[07:51] <Novagenesis> hi, got some major issues... upgraded ubuntu through changing the repositories and doing an upgrade..a week later...an issue from nvidia driver mismatches causes me to reinstall them...then suddenly gdm gives me a blank error log even when i use the nv driver instead of nvidia...
[07:51] <Novagenesis>  now i can't get X up (though the beautiful grahpical startup works right) and i'm stuck here in windows due to unwillingness to try to install ircii
[07:52] <tristanmike> jessid, um, no, I just typed "firefox &" and it brought up firefox and I could still type in the terminal, wasn't exactly clear on your question.
[07:52] <bofh80> Bergcube webmin IS really useful. i usually grow tired of it, or forget about it altoghether tho :P i don't think the modules are up to date anymore . . .
[07:52] <vbgunz> my wife is here and wants to play frozen bubble... anyone know why there is no sound in the game?
[07:52] <xukun> gues that is no
[07:52] <xukun> hmm
[07:52] <jessid> tristanmike I'll try, let me see
[07:52] <oly> anyone know of a command to find what has a lock on my sound card ?? or is there a killall esd equivelent for alsa ?
[07:53] <Novagenesis> my gdm log is completely blank
[07:53] <magoseitor> guys, come on please, there gotta be an eth0 device somewhere
[07:53] <[TheRookie] > try killall esd, sometimes it helps
[07:53] <kemik> Novagenesis: try your xlog and syslog
[07:53] <bofh80> xukun - have you tried and failed?
[07:53] <bluefrog-10> Bergcube, webmin as u can install it from the repos or direct from webmin.com will have to be tweaked for almost all modules. but once it's done you'll be fine
[07:53] <tristanmike> jessid, ok :)
[07:53] <oly> yeah no processes are getting killer
[07:53] <Bergcube> bofh80~  But if it isn't up to date it sort of sounds a little fishy to install it......  Or?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> magoseitor,  first id ever heard of a eth0 device actually.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> magoseitor,  try the 'find' command ?
[07:53] <oly> and they shoudl not be i removed anything i could that used esd
[07:53] <magoseitor> tried slocate
[07:54] <magoseitor> and0 results.
[07:54] <Novagenesis> kemik: those don't just look in log files that are already there?
[07:54] <bofh80> magoseitor
[07:54] <bofh80> magoseitor - i have eth0 on mine. what commands would you like me to type
[07:54] <oly> is there no command to find what has the lock
[07:54] <oly> which sound system or which app
[07:54] <civi> im trying to install ubuntu from amd64 install dvd and installation hangs in random moment.. (this time on unpacking module-init-tools)... i have no idea what other symptoms to give.. maybe its known issue with this install media ?
[07:54] <magoseitor> where do you have eth0?
[07:54] <magoseitor> where do you have eth0? bofh80?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> slocate - uses a database that may be ignoring /dev/ entries
[07:54] <spritey> hi@all
[07:54] <kemik> Novagenesis: huh? cat /var/logs/syslog and /var/log/X-something
[07:54] <bofh80> magoseitor /etc/network/interfaces :P
[07:55] <bofh80> now the device. what i do use slocate? do i do that as root?
[07:55] <spritey> can i boot to runlevel3 by saying something to yaboot?
[07:55] <magoseitor> nomed, if i sloate hd* for example, y get all the devices, same for the modem and others...
[07:55] <Bergcube> bluefrog-10~  I see.  Hm, I don't feel like doing that.  ( To be honest it sounds like too much reading and self-study just to get going with a server I'm setting up "for fun". )  Do you have any other more or less similar tools to suggest, or is webmin it?
[07:55] <erUSUL> magoseitor, the network drivers has always been an odd case on unix thy do not have device files in /dev/ you can list them whith ifconfig
[07:55] <cevizoglu> magoseitor, really?  locate doesn't turn up /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid    <--?
[07:55] <Novagenesis> kemik: already looked in those, syslog shows nothing and Xorg.log is from an previous run of X
[07:56] <kemik> Novagenesis: ah. sux
[07:56] <bofh80> magoseitor - a better question is WHY, do you want to find eth0
[07:56] <bluefrog-10> Bergcube, what kind of server do u want?
[07:56] <erUSUL> magoseitor, i do not have /dev/ppp0 no /dev/lo neither /dev/sit0 all of wich are listed by ifconfig -a
[07:56] <jonlleviathan> Preparing to replace cedega 4.4.1-1 (using cedega_4.4.1-1_i386.deb) ...
[07:56] <jonlleviathan> Unpacking replacement cedega ...
[07:56] <jonlleviathan> Setting up cedega (4.4.1-1) ...
[07:56] <jonlleviathan> does this mean it is installed ?
[07:56] <magoseitor> cause i need it for an application who wants the EXACT path for the device
[07:56] <Novagenesis> kemik: i removed a chunk of stuff for nvidia, then reinstalled it....that is the only change i made that it could be...so i have narrowed it down to some
[07:56] <bofh80> jonlleviathan - usually yes
[07:57] <Amaranth> jonlleviathan: Yes, but please don't paste in here.
[07:57] <jenda> jonlleviathan: looks like it
[07:57] <jonlleviathan> So I can begin copying games that are compatable
[07:57] <Answer> Is there any way to specify the GRUB option to load next when I click on Shutdown->Restart the computer?
[07:57] <erUSUL> magoseitor, you wont find it anywhere in the filesystem
[07:57] <jonlleviathan> sorry
[07:57] <bofh80> magoseitor that's a bit odd :P/ what application
[07:57] <magoseitor> i come form gentoo and i used to have /dev/net/ppp0 and /dev/net/eth0
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> jonlleviathan,  now ya get to read some docs on how to actually use cedega :P
[07:57] <Palint> Hey, can anyone help me find my USB ports to configure gnome-pilot?
[07:57] <magoseitor> i plug-in for SCEPTRE
[07:58] <magoseitor> the application is a plug-in for SCEPTRE
[07:58] <bofh80> is there a default root password, or do i have to reboot into recovery and set it again
[07:58] <Bergcube> bluefrog-10~  Local on a LAN, firewalled off from the internet.  FTP, file & print, samba for my wife's XP machine.  Webserver for local copy of LDP and a few other pages.  No LDAP or DHCP etc.
[07:58] <karl_notwork> does anyone know how to make mplayer loop properly?  -loop 0 stops and restarts really badly
[07:58] <Answer> Is there any way to specify the GRUB option to load next when I click on Shutdown->Restart the computer?
[07:59] <karl_notwork> or any other video player that can loop infinitely?
[07:59] <qiHEWSfi> http://www.tlm-project.org/public/distributions/
[07:59] <magoseitor> i don know if i am going mad, but i really really remember to have /dev/net/ppp0 and /dev/net/eth0 in gentoo
[07:59] <Bergcube> bluefrog-10~  And probably apt-proxy.....
[07:59] <qiHEWSfi> bookmark that in mind the next ubuntu distro hazzle
[07:59] <erUSUL> magoseitor, it must be some kind of emulation or something but in unix and linux there are not network file devices
[07:59] <bur[n] er> Answer: other than resetting the "default" in /boot/grub/menu.lst... no
[07:59] <jonlleviathan> where can i see a list of the cedega games
[07:59] <jonlleviathan>  ?"
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> Answer,  actually i THINK there is.. but not sure how. ive seen it done once befor. theymay of reset the default in the menu.lst.
[07:59] <bur[n] er> jonlleviathan: www.transgaming.com
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> jonlleviathan,  what 'cedega' games?
[07:59] <magoseitor> erUSUL....oh..see...now thats other thing...
[07:59] <kemik> Novagenesis: tried a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[08:00] <bluefrog-10> Bergcube, u'd be better off doing all that by hand then and using firestarter (if u have 2 cards) for firewall
[08:00] <Answer> bur[n] er, Dr_Willis,  ok I just thought it would be cool to say in windows,  Boot Into Ubuntu, or vice versa.  instead of having to catch the grub menu
[08:00] <magoseitor> i was used t have all those devices sitted there...
[08:00] <Novagenesis> kemik hmm...no... i didn't think of that one
[08:00] <qiHEWSfi> jonlleviathan search for the game cube in google. it's free, open source, new and shiny and VERY beatiful fps with multi-and singleplayer mode
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> Answer,  well its doable from linux.. but from windows.. :P nah..
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> lol
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> "Cube" is a nice little fast First person shooter.
[08:00] <bur[n] er> Answer: not "easily" an option at this point
[08:01] <Novagenesis> ok, hopping to linux and tryin it out
[08:01] <jonlleviathan> a list of compatable games with cedega
[08:01] <Answer> How to see which distribution and version is running from the command line?
[08:01] <Bergcube> bluefrog-10~  But I already have a very good dedicated firewall also acting as DHCP.  I see no reason to mess with it.  I'll take your advice for the rest of it!
[08:01] <jonlleviathan> game cube ?
[08:01] <magoseitor> thanks all for the answers
[08:01] <xukun> I,m install vmware on breezy, now I get this "What is the location of the "make" program on your machine?"
[08:01] <bur[n] er> Dr_Willis: is there a .deb for cube that you know of?
[08:01] <erUSUL> magoseitor, what you used them for? i can not thing a single thing to do whith them
[08:02] <Answer> How to see which distribution and version is running from the command line?
[08:02] <civi> and no solution for installation hangs on amd54 from dvd ?
[08:02] <magoseitor> the devices?
[08:02] <bur[n] er> xukun: alt+f2, xterm -e sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:02] <karl_notwork> answer: uname -a
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> bur[n] er,  no idea. i do know theres a variant or 2 of cube allready out also.
[08:02] <bur[n] er> xukun: otherwise, which make
[08:02] <erUSUL> Answer, cat /etc/lsb-release
[08:02] <bur[n] er> xukun: /usr/bin/make == my location
[08:02] <xukun> bur[n] er, thanks
[08:03] <xukun> I will try that
[08:03] <bur[n] er> Dr_Willis: thanks
[08:03] <bluefrog-10> xukun, if it's asking u're likely without it on your machine. install build-essential
[08:03] <bur[n] er> xukun: good luck
[08:03] <karl_notwork> so anyone know a video player that can loop properly?
[08:03] <qiHEWSfi> build essential is not by default installed
[08:03] <erUSUL> magoseitor, yes the devices
[08:03] <bluefrog-10> xukun, install linux-headers as well
[08:03] <frank> xukun: install build-essential,  gcc-3.4, linux-headers for your kernel
[08:03] <bur[n] er> qiHEWSfi: is that a question?  if so... no it's not
[08:03] <qiHEWSfi> you have to add it with synaptic. selecting just build-essentiial gives you everything you need
[08:03] <walter> hola
[08:04] <erUSUL> !es
[08:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:04] <ratschnowski> hi, got a question, after upgrading to breezy, the fontsize in some programms like xmms is miniscule, but only in the options or filebrowser, the frontend works fine
[08:04] <frank> xukun: some people need to any-any- patch for vmware to make it work properly in breezy
[08:05] <dmlinux> For the life of me i cant get my LiveCD for Kubuntu to load when i boot up, and im booting from the CD , anyone have an idea, nothing wants to MOUNT the ISO on the CD , they all just put the ISO file on the cd..
[08:05] <jonlleviathan> why cant i eject my cd ?
[08:05] <mr> barongas
[08:05] <bur[n] er> dmlinux: u can't burn iso's like that
[08:05] <jonlleviathan> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[08:05] <jonlleviathan> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[08:05] <jonlleviathan> eject: unmount of `/dev/hdb' failed
[08:05] <mr> ?
[08:05] <magoseitor> well, i study electric enginering, and we used a lot an app called SCEPTRE, and it has a plug-in who NEEDS to have a path to the eth0 device, if you put the plain device "eth0" it won't work, ....maybe it's a programmer fault...i can't think any more of it, it that app was a rewrite in fortran from an old one that IBM made
[08:05] <bluefrog-10> xukun, btw what version do u have if it's only 5 don't bother to install and grab the latest beta.
[08:05] <jbroome> jonlleviathan: are you in a directory on that cd?
[08:05] <jonlleviathan> no i closed everything
[08:05] <frank> dmlinux: look for burn image to cd in your program
[08:05] <jbroome> type cd .. and try unmounting again
[08:05] <jessid> tristanmike i have tryied, but can't find solution: the question is this: I want to run a java app, but when I run it from the command line, I have to cd to a specific directory. Then write java ejecutable/Principal That app has to run until the terminal is closed or until i press ctrl+c
[08:06] <dmlinux> bur[n] er how do i do it then, so that the Livecd will boot from the cd
[08:06] <bur[n] er> jessid: java /path/to/java.app & (sends it to background leaving terminal open)
[08:07] <bur[n] er> dmlinux: look at what frank said :P
[08:07] <erUSUL> magoseitor, never heard of something like that maybe you can make it work whith socat it can redirect an acces to a file to the network
[08:07] <JaZyLNX> when my machine boots up after the bootloader i get ext3fs cannot be found.. that purdee much means hdd gone bad?
[08:07] <dmlinux> frank what program do you use
[08:07] <bastardkestrel> is anybody having problems with nvidia and nautilus?
[08:07] <frank> dmlinux: you mean in windows?
[08:07] <erUSUL> magoseitor, install it and read documentation...
[08:07] <dmlinux> frank that and linux
[08:07] <frank> dmlinux: I used nero in windows, in linux I use k3b
[08:08] <cesar> hola
[08:08] <cesar> hi
[08:08] <magoseitor> allright, i'll take your advices erUSUL, many thanks for your time :-)
[08:08] <erUSUL> cesar, mejor prueba en #ubuntu-es
[08:08] <cesar> perdon
[08:08] <cesar> sorry
[08:08] <erUSUL> magoseitor, you are wellcome
[08:08] <magoseitor> coo erUSUL, hablas espaol?
[08:08] <dmlinux> fank illl try k3b , been using gravman but it was giving me some strange errors
[08:08] <erUSUL> magoseitor, si
[08:08] <cesar> thanks erUSUL
[08:08] <frank> dmlinux: are you in ubuntu right now?
[08:08] <dmlinux> fank yes
[08:09] <magoseitor> jajaja...que cosa,...voy a tener que ponerme magoseitor_es :-P
[08:09] <erUSUL> magoseitor, galizian 100%
[08:09] <cesar> join #ubuntu-es
[08:09] <cesar> #join #ubuntu-es
[08:09] <frank> dmlinux: If you want kubuntu, just install kubuntu-desktop
[08:09] <cesar> #join ubuntu-es
[08:09] <magoseitor> oye, y gracias ehh :-)
[08:09] <dmlinux> frank i want to try it before i install it.
[08:09] <frank> dmlinux: ok
[08:09] <erUSUL> magoseitor, nada...
[08:09] <grogoreo> hi
[08:10] <EvilGuru> hello
[08:10] <dmlinux> frank ive never switched desktops so if i dont like it i dont want to get it all setup and have to go back if i dont like it, people say its got more bluetooth apps
[08:10] <bastardkestrel> !nautilus
[08:10] <ubotu> bastardkestrel: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:10] <frank> dmlinux: if you install kubuntu-dektop, both kde and gnome will be available. They're both installed at the same time
[08:11] <grogoreo> why doesn't Totem play MPEG or AVI files? I'm on Breezy now, but when I was running Hoary totem's speed was very bad. I used VLC which was far better but I don't get why as they both use Gstreamer
[08:11] <bastardkestrel> How can I tell if nautilus is crashing?
[08:11] <frank> grogoreo: vlc does not use gstreamer
[08:11] <kemik> grogoreo: vlc uses it's own codecs
[08:11] <labluez> is there a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal
[08:11] <shekhar> can someone help me with skype, it keeps resetting the sound
[08:11] <grogoreo> frank kemik, oh right thanks
[08:12] <karl_notwork> is there a way to tell vlc/totem a new FOURCC code?
[08:12] <kemik> grogoreo: you need w32codecs and totem-xine if you wanna use totem (and i don think you want to use totem really.. vlc+mplayer is far better)
[08:12] <grogoreo> would you suggest that I make totem a front end to mplayer? as mplayer has some good codecs
[08:12] <karl_notwork> ie, for mencoder mpeg4 (DMP4 vs old DIVX) ?
[08:12] <frank> grogoreo: you can try gxine as well
[08:12] <dmlinux> frank burn iso image is the one i want?
[08:12] <grogoreo> kemik, yeah, I don't really like totem but it was the default player and I couldnt get VLC to be the default. I'll tryit now that ive got breezy
[08:12] <karl_notwork> and is there a way to make any of vlc/totem/mplayer loop infintiely?  the -loop 0 option to mplayer doesn't actually loop, it just restarts
[08:13] <frank> dmlinux: yeah
[08:13] <grogoreo> frank, ive tried (g)xine as well, but didn't really like it as a normal media player
[08:13] <frank> grogoreo: I'm on kde here so I never really use any of the gnome players...
[08:14] <Keito> i ordered ubuntu 5.04 cds with the shipit service, will i recieve breezy cds without any additional effort? (couldn't seem to log in to my account, so i wondered if ubuntu's gotten a new account system or something)
[08:14] <grogoreo> frank, oh right
[08:14] <mr> hello can anyboda help me
[08:14] <frank> Keito: I think they will be breezy
[08:14] <mr> i want to install mplayer
[08:14] <highvoltage> mr: anyboda is a strange god, he might or might not help you
[08:14] <mr> i meant anybody
[08:15] <io_> hi
[08:15] <grogoreo> io_, hi
[08:15] <Keito> frank, i mean, like, i did recieve hoary cds, but will i also recieve breezy when they're ready for takeoff?
[08:15] <highvoltage> mr: do you have universe enabled in your repositories?
[08:15] <highvoltage> if you have, you could just apt-get install mplayer-686
[08:15] <mr> i dont know
[08:15] <BooZee> how can I change the port sshd uses?
[08:15] <mr> i typed already the command
[08:15] <io_> i have some problem to configure a webserver on my pc
[08:15] <frank> Keito: oh, you proabably have to order again if you already recieved cds
[08:16] <dmlinux> frank Cdrecord has no permission to open device..
[08:16] <mr> but it cant find the package
[08:16] <Keito> well then, okay
[08:16] <dmlinux> frank You may use k3bsetup2 to solve this problem
[08:16] <dmlinux> frank where do i get to k3bsetup
[08:16] <dmlinux> k3b
[08:16] <frank> dmlinux: try to run that on the command line
[08:17] <GlueGadget> Hi, I'm with the ubuntu 5.04, I want to install SVN but I'm not able to find it with the apt-get
[08:17] <spudse> hello, my system hang while it was formatting my hd to ext3. Is my hd ruined ?
[08:17] <jessid> bur[n] er but if I want to run that app when the os has loaded, what do I have to do?
[08:17] <Keito> spudse, no
[08:17] <Keito> you can format it again
[08:17] <mr> highvoltage
[08:17] <civi> spudse: for me ubuntu hanged 4 times when tried to install it
[08:18] <civi> each time a bit further
[08:18] <karl_notwork> GlueGadget: apt-get install subversion ?
[08:18] <jessid> bur[n] er i understan that ii I write that in a terminal, the app is going to run, but what I want is to create some kind of icon to run that app
[08:18] <karl_notwork> apt-cache search svn ?
[08:18] <spudse> Keito: the partition manager from ubuntu install keeps saying "No physical volumes were found in your system", what can I do ?
[08:18] <mr> highvoltage    x@xx:/tmp$ sudo apt-get install mplayer-586
[08:18] <mr> Reading package lists... Done
[08:18] <mr> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:18] <mr> E: Couldn't find package mplayer-586
[08:18] <spudse> civi: how did you manage to get you harddisk usable again ?
[08:19] <Keito> spudse, now that is weird. is that gparted you're using?
[08:19] <GlueGadget> karl_notwork, hehe, thanks :)) [In the 5.10 the package name is SVN] 
[08:19] <civi> maybe my problem nature is different, my hdd is useable all the time
[08:19] <barongas> mr, Of course, you need to edit your repositories
[08:19] <spudse> Keito, I use the partitioner from the ubuntu badger installation
[08:19] <barongas> mr, It can either be done in synaptic or console
[08:19] <mr> how
[08:19] <spudse> Keito: can you guide me through it maybe ?
[08:20] <Keito> spudse, ok, i have not really used breezy badger, but i guess it's gparted you're using. anyway, is that a secondary harddrive you were formatting?
[08:20] <barongas> mr in console you type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <spudse> Keito, its the primairy (only disk)
[08:20] <intelikey> mr sudo apt-setup   to edit the list of sources
[08:20] <barongas> mr In there is a list of servers that apt/synaptic use to find files
[08:20] <bluefrog-10> spudse, aren't you trying to use the LVM option of the partitioner?
[08:20] <PatrikJohansson> "What is the location of the "make" program on your machine?", yeah what is the location of the make program on my machine??
[08:21] <Keito> spudse, ok, i see. the installer partitioning tool
[08:21] <koyoda> !repository
[08:21] <ubotu> koyoda: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:21] <frank> PatrikJohansson: install build-essential
[08:21] <koyoda> :)
[08:21] <bluefrog-10> PatrikJohansson, if it's asking you don't have it. install build-essential
[08:21] <spudse> Keito, My system just hang again, so I rebooting now
[08:21] <PatrikJohansson> ok
[08:21] <Keito> spudse, did you try more than once? does it say that no harddrive was found every time?
[08:21] <Kruzr|ZZZ> that's weird.  ubotu should know what a repository is.
[08:21] <barongas> My entire screen flickers whenever I start an opengl program. I have fglrx installed and "working"... any ideas?
[08:21] <gnomefreak> koyoda: i think its !sources
[08:22] <karl_notwork> I suppose you can install ubuntu without make.
[08:22] <koyoda> !sources
[08:22] <ubotu> hmm... sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[08:22] <karl_notwork> seems a bit odd to me, but then, I've always had make on windows too :)
[08:22] <intelikey> barongas ism't apt-setup safer for editing the sources list, seeing it also calls apt-get update and if you have an error it loops back to the edit option. ?
[08:22] <koyoda> gnomefreak, thanx :)
[08:23] <barongas> intelikey, I've never used apt-setup and so I wouldn't know. From what you said now it seems pretty much so.
[08:23] <gnomefreak> koyoda:  no problem
[08:23] <spudse> Keito, it says that more than once. When I go to the option volume manager (somewhat like that) I can create, remove, etc volumes. But whenever I click a option the screencolor turns red and it tells me that I dont have a physical volume
[08:23] <PatrikJohansson> frank, how exactly should i run the command??
[08:23] <gnomefreak> red screens :(
[08:23] <mr> files for what and what are respositories
[08:24] <frank> PatrikJohansson: you can use synaptic to install programs. open synaptic and search for build-essential
[08:24] <bluefrog-10> spudse, have you configured a partiotn as LVM?
[08:24] <PatrikJohansson> frank. thx
[08:24] <frank> PatrikJohansson: what are you trying to do anyways?
[08:24] <spudse> bluefrog-10, what is LVM ?
[08:24] <gnomefreak> mr repositories are sources that you get files from it is in the form of an http or ftp link
[08:24] <MaTaKs> how can i install my webcam driver on gaim-vv?
[08:24] <Anjay> Hi folks. I was wondering, how good is Ubuntu at partioning NTFS? I've a 250GB SATA hard drive, currently with 1 fat and 2 ntfs partitions and i want to resize the ntfs ones.
[08:24] <barongas> mr The files are programs like mplayer of firefox that you can download via apt
[08:24] <mr> but i have already the mplayer archive
[08:24] <PatrikJohansson> frank, im trying to install a program and i got that error
[08:25] <spudse> Keito, bluefrog-10: The first thing the partitioner says is " manually edit partition table" there are no other option. So I click that one now
[08:25] <bluefrog-10> spudse, if u don't kn ow then quit trying to install it, just select the first option from the partitioner
[08:25] <mr> its stored in tmp
[08:25] <frank> Anjay: ubuntu can partition but it can't format ntfs. windows will have to format later
[08:25] <spudse> bluefrog-10, there is only one option.
[08:25] <bluefrog-10> spudse, ok then select create partition
[08:25] <MaTaKs> how can i install my webcam driver on gaim-vv? anyone
[08:26] <Anjay> frank: could you explain a bit more? Why will Windows then have to format the partition?
[08:26] <barongas> mr Using apt is one of the BIG advantages with ubuntu. Once you get is set up properly it downloads and installs thousands of different programs easily with no hassle about compiling etc
[08:26] <frank> PatrikJohansson: however you can resize ntfs with ubuntu
[08:26] <spudse> okay first I click "manually edit partition table", because this is the first screen
[08:26] <gnomefreak> frank: why cant ubuntu format ntfs partions? if you install ubuntu it will erase ntfs or fat partions
[08:26] <bluefrog-10> spudse, ok then what do u have?
[08:26] <PatrikJohansson> frank.... huh??
[08:26] <frank> Anjay: ubuntu can create the partition ("the space") but not format ntfs (create the filesystem)
[08:26] <spudse> bluefrog-10, now it asks: "configure software raid", "configure the logical volume manager", "guided partitioning", "help on partitioning"
[08:27] <GURT> StarKruzr: ntfs is slow compaired to what linux uses, right?
[08:27] <intelikey> mr using the tools made for the system makes the system run much smoother.  always try to install via the package manager for your distro first.  because packages are usually compiled specificly for one release, of one distribution, of one os.
[08:27] <GURT> oops.. wasn't addressing that to anyone
[08:27] <soma_> is there anyone who would argue that I should move from debian on my server to ubuntu? :)
[08:27] <frank> PatrikJohansson: what program are you trying to install?
[08:27] <dmlinux> Gurt i find linux 3x faster then winblowz
[08:27] <PatrikJohansson> frank: vmware :D
[08:28] <GURT> i have a drive thats ntfs, and i find that i have to wait for it sometimes in gnome
[08:28] <mr> oaky
[08:28] <GURT> is that because its ntfs?
[08:28] <dmlinux> GURT idk , but windows sucks for speed
[08:28] <bluefrog-10> spudse, if u do back once u arrive at manually parttion and what happens if u do back once more?
[08:28] <gnomefreak> main reason its faster is its lighter than windows
[08:28] <mr> but i cant find mplayer
[08:28] <frank> PatrikJohansson: that's what I guessed ;-)   did you try to use synaptic? what error did you get?
[08:28] <mr> in synaptic
[08:28] <gnomefreak> and unix blows dos out of water
[08:28] <PatrikJohansson> frank, i didnt find it in synaptic, is it there??
[08:29] <spudse> bluefrog-10, I think my hd is not installed right
[08:29] <PatrikJohansson> frank, im using the installer from their homepage
[08:29] <gnomefreak> mr: i think mplayer is in universe repo
[08:29] <frank> PatrikJohansson: It's in system administration or something in the menu
[08:29] <mr> hmm
[08:29] <mr> sry but it doesnt tell me anything
[08:29] <frank> PatrikJohansson: you have to use the vmware installer but before doing that, you need to install a few things
[08:30] <soma_> gnomefreak, define faster... i find windows generally "feels" faster in apps than X.. but that could just be my subjective opinion
[08:30] <gnomefreak> mr: are you using breezy?
[08:30] <bluefrog-10> spudse, HDD right or not u should have more choices for partitioning,
[08:30] <mr> what is breezy
[08:30] <gnomefreak> mr: ubuntu 5.10?
[08:30] <thewayofzen> is there a plugin for k3b or some form of GUI that would allow burning of VCD?
[08:30] <PatrikJohansson> frank: i found synaptic :D its just the program vmware find :D
[08:30] <mr> ubuntu 5.04
[08:31] <PatrikJohansson> frank: i found synaptic :D its just the program vmware *i cant* find :D
[08:31] <gnomefreak> soma: faster as in gets files faster and things like that not really running programs that all depends on program
[08:31] <irc> help
[08:31] <intelikey> mr if you will run "sudo apt-setup "  and edit the sources by hand from there, uncommenting (that is removing the # mark) the lines in that file that refer to universe and multiverse, then you can install mplayer via synaptic.
[08:31] <PatrikJohansson> frank: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3660
[08:31] <frank> PatrikJohansson: you wont find vmware in synaptic, if that's what you're trying to do
[08:31] <spudse> bluefrog-10, I reset my computer and saw that my hd was not installed right
[08:31] <ph8> #!/bin/bash
[08:31] <ph8> rkhunter --update
[08:31] <ph8> rkhunter --createlogfile -c --skip-keypress
[08:31] <ph8> You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root
[08:31] <mr> ill try
[08:31] <ph8> erm
[08:31] <ph8> whoops.
[08:31] <PatrikJohansson> frank: i thought you suggested that??
[08:32] <dmlinux> soma_ loads , unloads, calculates, cpu usage is less, mem usage is less. and no chance of spyware, viruses are very very very rare slim to none, and installing things you want/need are free.. so the installation is also fast because its all on the net
[08:32] <frank> PatrikJohansson: in synaptic install build-essential, gcc-3.4
[08:32] <spudse> bluefrog-10, Im running install again
[08:32] <gnomefreak> ph8: please dont paste in here use pastebin to paste
[08:32] <ph8> hi all, i'm really struggling with this and would appreciate all help: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=444867#post444867
[08:32] <dmlinux> soma_ windows is very feniky :)
[08:32] <ph8> that's what i meant to paste
[08:32] <karl_notwork> oh, if anyoen wants to know how to make mplayer loop properly,
[08:32] <karl_notwork> it's mplayer file.avi -loop 0
[08:32] <karl_notwork> mplayer -loop 0 file.avi loops the playlist and is extremely chunky
[08:33] <karl_notwork> the other way round loops the single file and is what you would expect
[08:33] <soma_> dmlinux, hehe.. well.. im running ubuntu too.. i just feel that apps, such as eclipse feels faster in windows than in linux generally, and thats when im using the same jvm
[08:33] <frank> PatrikJohansson: also install linux-headers-? for your kernel
[08:33] <intelikey> irc ok you need to learn how to look for help.   first goto the ubuntu web site and search the 'wiki' for answers to your problem. then google "how to ask smart questions" and then come back and ask your question.
[08:33] <PatrikJohansson> frank: how??
[08:33] <Revellion> soma_: Java sucks on any platform :|
[08:33] <Revellion> imho
[08:33] <jessid> chao a todos y a todas
[08:33] <dmlinux> soma_ well if its a port thats a different story, or if you are running a windows app via wine
[08:33] <soma_> Revellion, heh, well.. eclipse does not
[08:34] <frank> !tell PatrikJohansson about synaptic
[08:34] <soma_> dmlinux, its a java app
[08:34] <gnomefreak> ph8: did you set printer using cups?
[08:34] <Revellion> soma_: you actually use eclipse :|
[08:34] <intelikey> lag.... looks like he already left.
[08:34] <pder> UBUNTU ARE NOT SUPPORT COMPUTER
[08:34] <dmlinux> soma_ i dont even know what eclipse is  :P
[08:34] <mr> i uncommented the"following two lines"
[08:34] <NoUse> Revellion Eclipse is awesome
[08:34] <bluefrog-10> spudse, ok normal install i presume?
[08:34] <soma_> Revellion, yes.. why wouldnt i? .. it excellent
[08:35] <dmlinux> what is eclipse
[08:35] <soma_> dmlinux, its an IDE, primarily for java development
[08:35] <Revellion> soma_: well i prefer other means of development :)
[08:35] <dmlinux> gotcha
[08:35] <Revellion> which are less GUI dependent ;)
[08:35] <pder> I TRY THE LINUX AND IT ARE CRAP
[08:35] <soma_> Revellion, like? .. and dont tell me emacs, cause it sucks :P
[08:35] <Revellion> soma_: emacs...eww
[08:35] <gildo> hey
[08:35] <gildo> I want to be able to burn cd
[08:35] <gildo> audio and data
[08:35] <gnomefreak> pder than bring your unhappy ass back to windows dont complain about it
[08:36] <gildo> can someone recommend a program?
[08:36] <dducko> Hmm got an interesing Problem..
[08:36] <Revellion> good old nano and a compiler + debugger and some tools around is all i need :|
[08:36] <NoUse> gildo k3b
[08:36] <pder> gnomefreak I PREFER HURD
[08:36] <gnomefreak> gildo: program for what?
[08:36] <dducko> Went to the Nvidia site to get thire video drivers
[08:36] <gildo> apt-get install k3b?
[08:36] <dmlinux> gildo k3b if you use KDE , Graveman if you use gnome
[08:36] <dducko> and I get a page not found for the link to the .run
[08:36] <Revellion> dmlinux: what's the status of Gnomebaker o_o
[08:36] <PatrikJohansson> frank: which headers should i install?? (sry for all the stupid questions man :( )
[08:36] <gildo> i have gnome
[08:36] <dducko> anybody know where I might pick them up at?
[08:37] <soma_> Revellion, for what environment and language? .. i feel eclipse is really neat for java dev... but im mostly doing ruby work now, and it is.. well.. less than optimal tho.. .i wouldnt want to work in nano tho :P
[08:37] <dmlinux> REvellion never heard/used it
[08:37] <pder> UBUNTU DO NOT SUPPORT HARD DISK
[08:37] <gildo> Reading package lists... Done
[08:37] <gildo> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:37] <gildo> E: Couldn't find package Graveman
[08:37] <Revellion> soma_: C / C++ / Python and Perl :)
[08:37] <dmlinux> pder what are you shouting about?
[08:37] <frank> PatrikJohansson: you have the x86 version of Ubuntu, and never changed your kernel?
[08:37] <Revellion> mostly C
[08:37] <bluefrog-10> gildo, intall K3b is fine. the only thing it will install some KDE stuff but no worries, eveything works
[08:37] <Revellion> dmlinux: oh
[08:37] <spudse> bluefrog-10, yeah normal install again, but still it hangs at 49%
[08:37] <mr> i uncommented the"following two lines"
[08:37] <gnomefreak> gildo: what repos do you have enabled in your sources list?
[08:37] <PatrikJohansson> frank, at least i think so :D
[08:37] <meli> haui
[08:37] <Revellion> dmlinux: they are saying that Gnomebaker should be the best burning app for the Gnome/GTK enviroment :|
[08:37] <bluefrog-10> spudse, 49% of what?
[08:37] <soma_> Revellion, if you like python you should look up ruby.. its really nice
[08:38] <Revellion> soma_: nah
[08:38] <dmlinux> revellion is it out yet?
[08:38] <digits> Hey guys, I'm trying to compile my kernel... did as the tutorial said, but the kernel wants gcc-3.4 but I have gcc-4.0 (breezy default installed)... why?
[08:38] <shagg> anybody had any experience with win4lin on Ubuntu (ie. is it possible)?
[08:38] <pder> gnomebaker suxors
[08:38] <Revellion> soma_: bad reps about Ruby still throws me off
[08:38] <soma_> Revellion, like?
[08:38] <frank> PatrikJohansson: install linux-headers-386  It should be what you need. to check in a console type uname -a
[08:38] <Revellion> soma_: Python/Perl i use mostly for quick shell stuff or prototypes
[08:38] <intelikey> mr put a space in front of them so your irc client doesnt think they are commands.
[08:38] <intelikey>  /blah blah
[08:38] <Revellion> soma_: and Python/Perl is widely more supported than Ruby for the work i do :\
[08:38] <soma_> Revellion, hehe.. yeah well ruby is more fun :)
[08:39] <mr>  okay
[08:39] <Revellion> soma_: that's odd
[08:39] <Revellion> soma_: most of my friends got nightmares about Ruby :\
[08:39] <soma_> Revellion, how's that?
[08:39] <PatrikJohansson> frank: "Linux patrik 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:39] <PatrikJohansson> "
[08:39] <Revellion> soma_: dunno :)
[08:39] <frank> PatrikJohansson: then you have the 386 kernel
[08:39] <Revellion> soma_: they said it was a pain in the ass to work with
[08:39] <Ravi`s> i need request UBUNTU CDS
[08:40] <PatrikJohansson> frank.. so the one you suggested is right??
[08:40] <frank> PatrikJohansson: yeah
[08:40] <lJlolel> hello
[08:40] <jenda> lJlolel hello
[08:40] <soma_> Revellion, oh okay.. well its not your average c-style syntax.. perhaps thats whats bothering them
[08:40] <lJlolel> postfix is only accepting e-mail from localhost,how do i make it accept mail from like yahoo?
[08:40] <Ravi`s> help....
[08:40] <digits> Why does "make menuconfig" complain about gcc-3.4 not being installed? (I thought 4.0 was breezy default)
[08:40] <Revellion> soma_: so maybe that's why it won't work for me neither :)
[08:41] <PatrikJohansson> frank. ok now i see i was looking at the package with the kernel version but now it installed that one aswell :P
[08:41] <Revellion> soma_: since most stuff i've worked on has been C and C++ :)
[08:41] <frank> digits: the kernel is compiled with 3.4
[08:41] <Revellion> since a long time
[08:41] <bluefrog-10> digits, install 3.4 and u'll be fine
[08:41] <Revellion> old habits die hard :|
[08:41] <soma_> Revellion, well, you should always be open for new stuff
[08:41] <Ravi`s> i need request UBUNTU CDS version 5.10
[08:41] <digits> frank, bluefrog-10: oh... can't i just recompile it with 4.0?
[08:41] <Revellion> soma_: i should indeed
[08:41] <frank> PatrikJohansson: so you installed everything in synaptic?
[08:41] <gnomefreak> ravi's go to shipit on ubuntu.org
[08:41] <frank> digits: not the kernel
[08:42] <PatrikJohansson> frank: yeah
[08:42] <digits> frank: ok, thanks
[08:42] <Revellion> soma_: but still it would probably never become a language i'd use regularly
[08:42] <Ravi`s> gnomefreak <--- thank you
[08:42] <soma_> Revellion, i recently attended a class in Haskell.. .. now that was different from "normal" programming
[08:42] <gnomefreak> Ravi`s, no problem
[08:42] <bluefrog-10> spudse, where u at now?
[08:42] <soma_> Revellion, you never know, you might like it :)
[08:42] <^DodGeR^> evening every1
[08:42] <frank> PatrikJohansson: now  in the console   export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4   then   vmware-config   or whatever the script name is
[08:43] <lJlolel> so has anyone gotten postfix to work?
[08:43] <gnomefreak> soma_, isnt haskel based on java or python or something?
[08:43] <^DodGeR^> quick q, how do i get home , myPc, trash icons on the desktop ? (breezy)
[08:43] <soma_> gnomefreak, uhm.. no
[08:44] <soma_> gnomefreak, python is partly based on functional programming languages like haskell tho
[08:44] <bluefrog-10> ^DodGeR^, drag and drop from the menus
[08:44] <chris__> hi
[08:44] <PAK_013> ibook touch pad problem.... if somebody can help me please call me on private
[08:44] <frank> PatrikJohansson: the reason you do this is because gcc-4 is the default compiler but the kernel and kernel modules need to be compiled with gcc-3.4 instead
[08:44] <gnomefreak> soma_,  maybe thats what i was thinking
[08:44] <chris__> I'm having problems getting sound
[08:44] <ekimus> anyone can recommend me a good java decompiler?
[08:44] <marek_> hi
[08:45] <^DodGeR^> ty bluefrog-10 , will give it a shot
[08:45] <^DodGeR^> ekimus , 'jad' is still best i recon
[08:45] <marek_> i'm having problem with FLEX
[08:45] <chris__> Why won't sound work???
[08:45] <marek_> i can't install wine
[08:45] <NoUse> !tell chris about sound
[08:46] <chris__> first day using ubuntu and can't even get sound :(
[08:46] <Juhaz> am I hallucinating here or does firefox prefer /etc/mailcap over gnome mime system?
[08:46] <Amaranth> !fixsound
[08:46] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Amaranth
[08:46] <Amaranth> hrm
[08:46] <Amaranth> !sound
[08:46] <ubotu> somebody said sound was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:47] <jenda> marek_ of course you can. what's the matter?
[08:47] <intelikey> chris__ the url is for you ^
[08:47] <Amaranth> Juhaz: firefox does not integrate fully into GNOME :(.
[08:47] <Amaranth> i should try to write the firefox extensions i use as epiphany extensions
[08:48] <Juhaz> Amaranth, indeed, but it is capable of using gnome mime system - IF there is no mailcap entry
[08:48] <Amaranth> anyway, lunch time
[08:48] <Amaranth> Juhaz: in that case it's a bug, please file it in bugzilla
[08:48] <richie_> Easy q for many ppl... How do I make a crypt password in shell?
[08:48] <PatrikJohansson> frank: do i need to reebot before installing vmware??
[08:49] <frank> PatrikJohansson: no
[08:49] <soma_> richie_, encrypted how?
[08:49] <fasted> hello everyone!
[08:49] <PatrikJohansson> frank: so now it should work?
[08:49] <ph8> gnomefreak: I'm just using all the GUIS
[08:49] <lJlolel> is anyone here familiar with postfix smtp server?
[08:49] <ph8> I don't know much about cups
[08:49] <ph8> gnomefreak: I'm just using all the GUIs
[08:49] <frank> PatrikJohansson: did you run the configuration script with all the network settings?
[08:49] <richie_> soma: you know the unix passwords? they use crypt
[08:49] <soma_> lJlolel, sure
[08:49] <fasted> could need some hints on nvidia and glxgears performance....
[08:49] <ph8> my connection at uni is horribly lagged - apologies for slow replies
[08:49] <ekimus> lJlolel: depends on what you want to do...
[08:49] <lJlolel> soma_, i can only send mail locally
[08:50] <lJlolel> soma_, i mean, ican't get yahoo to send mail to my server
[08:50] <soma_> lJlolel, have you tried dpkg-reconfigure postfix?
[08:50] <Ng> richie_: quite often they use md5 these days
[08:50] <lJlolel> soma_, i'll try that now
[08:50] <PatrikJohansson> frank: im still trying to install vmware.... what script??
[08:50] <marek_> where i found flex?
[08:50] <marek_> i can't install wine!!!
[08:50] <Juhaz> Amaranth, yeah, was planning on it, I just wondered if someone could confirm, since it's rather strange that nobody has filed it, considering how annoying it is that it insists on opening .c files with less, for example
[08:50] <j5y> how do i install addons in firefox?
[08:50] <richie_> ng: how i make a crypt passwd anyway, i wanna try somethin
[08:50] <frank> did you install vmware already?
[08:50] <soma_> lJlolel, but you do know that having an open smtp-server visible on the internet is a potential security risk?
[08:51] <PatrikJohansson> frank: no its the installer im trying to run
[08:51] <NoUse> marek_ what happens when you enter 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[08:51] <lJlolel> soma_, oh, how would i minimize that risk?
[08:51] <BluesRocker> marek_, use synaptic package manager
[08:51] <ekimus> lJlolel: can you actually send local mail with postfix? can you send local mail to other hosts, does you isp allow you to have port 25 open, are you behind a firewall? (that would be the order in which i'd try to debug the settings)
[08:51] <soma_> lJlolel, .. uh well, .. dont run it :)
[08:51] <bluefrog-10> PatrikJohansson, u need to sudo to run the installer
[08:51] <frank> PatrikJohansson: ok run it after you export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[08:51] <fasted> after using the nvidia driver instead of nv, is there much else to be done? other changes in order to get good performance?
[08:51] <ekimus> soma_: so what, having a computer plugged to the net is a potential security risk :)
[08:51] <marek_> thanks, im check it
[08:52] <soma_> ekimus, sure :P
[08:52] <lJlolel> soma_, great, it works now!
[08:52] <PatrikJohansson> frank: still get the same error
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> All right, so I have a couple of quick questions:
[08:52] <frank> PatrikJohansson: what error?
[08:52] <soma_> lJlolel, now we should all use your mail server for our spam forwarding :)
[08:52] <PatrikJohansson> frank : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3660
[08:52] <Ng> richie_: I'm not sure of a way to do it from a command line. You could make a temporary user and set their password, but the username is usually part of the hash, so that wouldn't work for another user. sorry I can't be of more use, but I expect google may be able to help
[08:52] <lJlolel> soma_, hmm
[08:53] <budluva> anyone here use e17?
[08:53] <ekimus> guess i'm too old style for ubuntu, i'd start configuring my mail server by digging the config files, and tail -f <logs> :)
[08:53] <frank> PatrikJohansson: the export command will fix that
[08:53] <marek_> package lost
[08:53] <marek_> HoUse
[08:53] <lJlolel> soma_, but I don't allow relaying
[08:53] <marek_> package lost
[08:53] <soma_> lJlolel,  :)
[08:53] <PatrikJohansson> frank then the export command didnt work for me :(
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> First, I want to disable the system bell, for shutdown warnings and the like.  I had succeeded in doing so in Hoary by adding set bell-style none in ~/.bashrc and /etc/inputrc and deselecting it under System>Sound>System Bell, but that's not doing it now in Breezy.
[08:54] <intelikey> richie_ "man gpg "  or  "man md5 "   or even "man shadow "  any of those might point you in the right dirrection.   you can also write your own decoding key with tr "man tr "
[08:54] <gildo> Guys, I just wanted to point out that jenda has been a GREAT help for me today. He seems to be a good asset to the channel, we need more people like him :)
[08:54] <gildo> People like him will definitely keep the ubuntu community growing.
[08:54] <BluesRocker> anyone knows how to configure TV out?
[08:54] <gildo> Thanks jenda!
[08:54] <frank> PatrikJohansson: type gcc-3.4 -v in a console
[08:54] <marek_> redhat have RPM, what have a Ubuntu??
[08:55] <marek_> what kind of packages?
[08:55] <gnomefreak> marek_ ubuntu uses .deb
[08:55] <BluesRocker> marek_ .deb
[08:55] <fasted> marek_, deb
[08:55] <marek_> thanks
[08:55] <frank> PatrikJohansson: is the last line gcc 3.4.5 ....
[08:55] <BluesRocker> marek_, you can transform rpm to deb with "alien" command
[08:56] <PatrikJohansson> frank, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3662
[08:56] <PatrikJohansson> frank: looks like it
[08:56] <budluva> anyone aware of a file manager i can use for e17 besides the one that comes with e? it blows :P
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> The second is hypothetical (trying to anticipate things that a friend of mine might do accidentally when they try Linux for the first time): Say you have Grub installed on the mbr, and in /boot/grub/menu.lst set it to autoboot to a default option with 0 time delay, but that option is set as Windows.  How would someone recover from that?  (Can you edit the grub menu from windows / will hitting esc be possible with no wait time?)
[08:56] <SpoonyLivin> Hello
[08:56] <fredforfaen> hey
[08:56] <SpoonyLivin> I have a quick question
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> Have any of you had success disabling the system bell under Breezy?
[08:57] <SpoonyLivin> Does anybody know of an IRC client that support transparent windows?
[08:57] <frank> PatrikJohansson: you need to run the installer   in the same console as export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[08:57] <SpoonyLivin> a la Xterm?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, configure your grub boot menu
[08:57] <PatrikJohansson> ok
[08:57] <fredforfaen> xchat SpoonyLivin
[08:57] <marek_> do you know any place in internet with deb packages for download?
[08:57] <SpoonyLivin> xchat does that?
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: The question is how.
[08:57] <fredforfaen> yeah
[08:57] <crimsun> marek_: archive.ubuntu.com ...?
[08:57] <SpoonyLivin> via the ~/.Xresources file?
[08:57] <SpoonyLivin> or some other file?
[08:57] <marek_> thanks crimsun
[08:57] <beruic> Can anyone help me upgrading from Hoary to Breezy?
[08:58] <intelikey> tonyyarusso [esc]  will work.   load the key buffer just before it starts the boot process.
[08:58] <crimsun> beruic: have you read the upgrade notes in the topic?
[08:58] <izmaelis> beruic, follow instructions in wiki and everything will be ok
[08:58] <beruic> Can't find ti...
[08:58] <crimsun> /topic
[08:58] <Juhaz> marek_, you don't usually need or want to download debs by hand, but set up the repositories and let apt-get/aptitude/synaptic handle installing software
[08:58] <ben_w> hey...this is kind of a trivial problem, I want to set an icon for an application shortcut on the tool bar, i browsed to the icons location but it was grayed out
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: So it will automatically register the key press as soon as it reaches that point?  Perfect.  Thanks.
[08:58] <beruic> Think I found something now...
[08:59] <PatrikJohansson> frank: what is NAT networking?? (the other thing worked now THX )
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> Still wondering about the system bell thing though.
[09:00] <frank> PatrikJohansson: you can answer yes to all the questions....   NAT means that vmware machines will share your computer's connection
[09:00] <lJlolel> soma_, ah! how do i stop my computer from being an open relay?
[09:00] <PatrikJohansson> frank: ok, good
[09:02] <frank> PatrikJohansson: when you setup a virtual machine, you have to choose how it is conencted. I always use MA
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> It seems that the Gnome-accessible bell setting under Preferences>Sound doesn't affect whether terminal actions will still trigger it.
[09:02] <frank> PatrikJohansson: NAT
[09:02] <PatrikJohansson> frank: now it seems to have run the entire installer without problems :D
[09:02] <PatrikJohansson> frank: thx alot
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> Or they only sometimes do, which is quite confusing.
[09:02] <dducko> !repos
[09:02] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[09:03] <frank> PatrikJohansson: no problem
[09:04] <PatrikJohansson> frank: what now?? (sry man but your so helpful :D )
[09:04] <dducko> where do i find the aditional repos for Breezy?
[09:05] <linkd> aditional repositories?
[09:05] <dducko> yeah
[09:05] <dducko> Multiverse and such
[09:05] <Seveas> !repos
[09:05] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[09:05] <marek_> which command install deb file (in Mandrake: rpm -i xxx.rpm)? what is in ubuntu?
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> Okay, I've collected more data.  When I first boot the computer and Gnome starts up and I've logged in through the gdm, if I open a terminal window through Apps>Accessories>Terminal, and then do a shutdown command, it's silent like I want it to be.
[09:05] <lasindi[lappy] > How can I install Flash for Konqueror in Ubuntu?
[09:05] <linkd> you just need to change the distro in the deb directives of /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:05] <Seveas> marek_, dpkg -i
[09:05] <yi_> how do I make xorg look in /usr/X11R6/lib64/ for drivers
[09:05] <marek_> thx
[09:05] <yi_> nvidia installer puts them there instead of the usual /usr/X11R6/lib
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> If I switch to say tty2 by Ctrl-Alt-F2, and log in there, and run shutdown, the system bell beeps.
[09:06] <PatrikJohansson> frank: nm i think i figured this one out myself
[09:06] <dducko> Hmm Do I want Hoary Extras with Breezy?
[09:06] <intelikey> if you used that command is mdk no wonder you didn't stay with it.   it is "urpmi <file.rpm> "
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> After that, if I then switch back to Gnome on tty7, and open a terminal window as before, now it will beep on a shutdown command.
[09:06] <lasindi[lappy] > dducko, Seveas, I've added those sources, but which package(s) do I need to download?
[09:07] <Seveas> lasindi[lappy] , flashplayer-mozilla
[09:07] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : you have any unofficial sources added?
[09:07] <cappiz> someone here has a good HOWTO/guide for secure NFS server over ssh? or something
[09:07] <mirak> the X server configuration on linux is really catastrophic
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> Someone had mentioned on an unrelated topic that ~/.login only runs if you log in through the terminal, might I need to add a set bell-style none to that file as well or something to stop it from beeping?
[09:08] <lsuactiafner> mirak : i dont think it is
[09:09] <lsuactiafner> mirak : run xorgconf
[09:09] <intelikey> and shouldn't it also be "sudo apt-get install </path/file.deb> "  in place of "dpkg -i <blah> "  so that apt can check the dependancies also.
[09:09] <mirak> lsuactiafner: I think it is. We should not have to run xorgconf manually
[09:09] <mirak> lsuactiafner: windows or OS X don't fail miserably to show something on the screen
[09:09] <mirak> linux does always
[09:09] <mirak> that's a huge flaw
[09:10] <lsuactiafner> mirak : if you run vesa as the xorg driver it will also work regardless of hardware like windows does
[09:10] <lasindi[lappy] > Seveas, I discovered I have a problem with multiverse; this is the error I get: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/8096HC19.html
[09:10] <lsuactiafner> mirak : but its much easier to set up a linux box than some windows boxen
[09:10] <mirak> lsuactiafner: then it should as a default
[09:11] <lsuactiafner> it is the default.
[09:11] <mirak> lsuactiafner: yet gdm fail to start the server and show something
[09:11] <j5y> how can i change language in the spellcheck in gaim?
[09:11] <mirak> there is not even a fallback
[09:11] <lsuactiafner> mirak : then you have a very screwed up card if it doesnt support vesa
[09:12] <lsuactiafner> the fallback is the console
[09:12] <intelikey> mirak if you don't like X don't use it.
[09:12] <lsuactiafner> i dont even use a GUI, just a console and i use my pc mostly for media/entertainment
[09:12] <Seveas> lasindi[lappy] , sudo apt-get update
[09:13] <lsuactiafner> but my geforce 6600 256ram 128bit works perfectly
[09:13] <intelikey> hmmm i use kde for that but it is seldom started.
[09:13] <mirak> intelikey: ahah that's brilliant
[09:13] <intelikey> brilliant ?   mirak
[09:13] <mirak> lsuactiafner: It works on windows, I don't know what you are talking about
[09:14] <intelikey> mirak what kind of hardware you got there?  vidio that is?
[09:14] <StFS> Hello, I'm trying to run the Kubuntu 5.10 live CD on my Dell D810 and when I get to the "blue screen" (where I should select the country, keyboard layout etc) the screen goes blank and just sort of flashes the image at me from time to time... anybody have an idea of what might be going on?
[09:14] <lsuactiafner> mirak : format your windows pc and stick in a windows xp cd and see if it will work perfectly without you configuring 100 devices and settings.
[09:15] <Detox> help!!!!  I am trying to use the live cd on a dell inspiron 1150 laptop and I cannot get any video
[09:15] <lsuactiafner> and yes, what card do you have anyway
[09:15] <NoUse> Detox what kind of video card?
[09:15] <Detox> intel 82852
[09:16] <lasindi[lappy] > Seveas, I get this error with apt-get update: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Pvr89y51.html
[09:16] <lasindi[lappy] > *errors
[09:16] <dmlinux> if in apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will it keep all my settings icons etc
[09:16] <NoUse> Detox do you get just dumped to the console?
[09:16] <mirak> intelikey: that's a radeon 9600 pro
[09:16] <Detox> no,,, just no video
[09:16] <ChazZ> hey, if i have kdm set as my default desktop manager, how can i switch that back to gdm?
[09:16] <mirak> lsuactiafner: at least it will display something
[09:16] <dmlinux> frank you still there?
[09:16] <zezzy> hey, im trying to install ubuntu - it stoped tho: [DR-DOS]  A:\>
[09:16] <frank> dmlinux: yeah
[09:17] <zezzy> what do i type there?
[09:17] <frank> ChazZ: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm I think
[09:17] <dmlinux> frank if i apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will kt keep all my icon settings etc.. or is it just better to wipe the partition out and start from kubuntu install ?
[09:17] <Strog> zezzy: Do you have a floppy in the drive?
[09:17] <zezzy> no floppy
[09:17] <ChazZ> thanks frank
[09:17] <zezzy> i use cd-room
[09:18] <mirak> xchat crashed I clicked on the systray
[09:18] <ChazZ> yeah that worked
[09:18] <StFS> hmm... using the vga=771 boot parameter seems to have fixed the problem for now
[09:18] <Strog> zezzy: and you have no floppy drive at all?
[09:18] <zezzy> nope
[09:18] <NoUse> Detox check to see if there are any failsafe boot options
[09:18] <zezzy> not on that comp
[09:18] <Detox> ok
[09:18] <Detox> trying nv mode now
[09:18] <Mr_Milenko> i need some suggestions or constructive critisizm on my webdesign
[09:18] <Detox> same result
[09:18] <Mr_Milenko> anyone wanna reveiw it lol
[09:18] <Detox> selected 80x25
[09:18] <frank> dmlinux: I think the kde preferences are mostly independant of the gnome ones
[09:18] <Detox> will see how it works
[09:18] <NoUse> Detox you'd want like vesa mode or something
[09:19] <Detox> ok
[09:19] <StFS> hmm... why doesn't the setup stuff automatically select an Icelandic keyboard layout when I've told it I'm in Iceland?
[09:19] <intelikey> Mr_Milenko url ?
[09:19] <sorush20> any women here?
[09:19] <zezzy> do i need a floppy?
[09:20] <dmlinux> frank one think i like about gnome is that it has the TWO panels one on top one on bottom,, can i change KDE to do that?
[09:20] <Mr_Milenko> www.milenko.org
[09:20] <Mr_Milenko> i tried my best to keep it simple but clean/nice
[09:20] <frank> dmlinux: I am sure you can but I don't know exactly how
[09:20] <intelikey> no zezzy.  but you may need another cd that one is not booting properly.
[09:20] <Mr_Milenko> and used the php addy for the news script.. i know its mostly html :P
[09:20] <dmlinux> frank my bt mouse worked as soon as i entered liveCD which is nice, too bad scroll button still doesnt
[09:20] <zezzy> oh
[09:22] <zezzy> i dont have to format my hdd to install it?
[09:22] <ogi_> are there any backports for breezy already?
[09:22] <Amaranth> no
[09:22] <Amaranth> dapper just opened
[09:23] <intelikey> Mr_Milenko looks ok  but hardcoded to size is not browser friendly. not everyone will be using that rezzzzelution
[09:24] <gnomefreak> Amaranth,  have we heard when the beta1 for dapper is comming out?
[09:24] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: we don't have betas, we have milestones
[09:24] <sorush20> any women here?
[09:24] <Mr_Milenko> what should i use?
[09:24] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: it's just a point in the dev cycle where everything on the CD installs
[09:24] <frank> gnomefreak: probably 5 months
[09:24] <NoUse> sorush20 take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:24] <djfal> i am a beautiful woman with long flowing hair
[09:24] <gnomefreak> ok ty guys
[09:25] <djfal> also i would like to know how to add a new panel to the gnome desktop
[09:25] <tarheelcoxn> lol
[09:25] <Amaranth> djfal: right click on a current panel
[09:25] <intelikey> dynamic scaling maybe
[09:26] <sorush20> djfal: don't use gnome sorry?
[09:26] <djfal> thanks
[09:26] <djfal> what do you use sorush
[09:27] <intelikey> i'm not a html anything Mr_Milenko but i know that some pages fit whatever size window they are opened in and the rest just make me mad..... :)
[09:27] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:27] <Mr_Milenko> but it does look alright right?
[09:27] <alexandros> asnyone had a problem with installing opera, it seems to can't find libawt.so and libjvm. I am using 5.10
[09:28] <intelikey> yeah if i didn't have to horizonal scrool to see it all Mr_Milenko it looks fine.
[09:28] <dducko> How do i set my gcc from 4 to 3.4 so i can instal nvidia drivers?
[09:28] <meho_> hi i would liek to know how i can play .exe files
[09:29] <bluefrog-10> dducko, install them from synaptic
[09:29] <dducko> did that
[09:29] <meho_> can anyone help me please
[09:29] <intelikey> back later maybe.....
[09:29] <bluefrog-10> dducko, have u enabled nvidia afterwards?
[09:30] <_jason> meho_:  what are you trying to do
[09:30] <dducko> i cant install it because it wont compile
[09:30] <dducko> 3.4 was used to make the kernel and it looks to 4 when it compiles it
[09:30] <meho_> i have exe short games that i want to execute and how would i be able to do that
[09:30] <bluefrog-10> dducko, not sure i understand, those from the repo don't work for u?
[09:30] <dducko> it ll compile.. it cant be added into the kernel
[09:31] <brockilyguy21> can somebody help me, i cant install anything, compile sometimes works, but when i compile, make doesnt work
[09:31] <dducko> is there an enviroemental setting of which gcc compiler is used
[09:31] <bluefrog-10> dducko, what did u choose in synaptic?
[09:31] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: why are you compiling? use apt
[09:31] <coz> Hello All
[09:31] <ricky43> how am i supposed to install . deb packages
[09:31] <odie5533> How do I reformat a USB Thumb Drive?
[09:31] <_jason> meho_:  linux doesn't use exe files, are these windows games?
[09:31] <brockilyguy21> that doesnt work either
[09:31] <gnomefreak> Alexandros: do you have java installed?
[09:31] <dducko> gcc 3.4 and all the files with it
[09:32] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: do you get an error with apt?
[09:32] <coz> you can format it just as any drive
[09:32] <brockilyguy21> yes
[09:32] <war-totem> is it possible to install windows drivers in linux?
[09:32] <meho_> most likely as they have .exe extensions
[09:32] <dducko> im useing Nvidia's driver
[09:32] <bluefrog-10> dducko, am talking of the nvidia drivers
[09:32] <farruinn> ricky43: dpkg -i <filename>
[09:32] <coz> why format it to what file system?
[09:32] <dducko> No not useing that.. unless its been fixed
[09:32] <_jason> meho_:  look into WINE and CEDEGA on forums.ubuntu.com
[09:32] <dducko> i had nothing but problems with that one in Hoary
[09:32] <_jason> meho_:  err sorry ubuntuforums.org
[09:32] <bluefrog-10> dducko, have u tried the nvidia drivers that u find in ubuntu repository
[09:32] <dducko> and prefer the Nvidia proprietary driver
[09:33] <dducko> i had nothing but problems with that one in Hoary
[09:33] <brockilyguy21> wait, what type of apt files should i use
[09:33] <mitsuhiko> hiho
[09:33] <ricky43> farruinn, yes but then it asks for the root password
[09:33] <mitsuhiko> any hoary hedgehog user here?
[09:33] <bluefrog-10> dducko, if u're in breezy u should stop thinking hoary
[09:33] <meho_> _jason: what about burning dvd's or vcd's
[09:33] <coz> odie 5533 why format the thumb drive?
[09:33] <dducko> ok ill try it
[09:33] <brockilyguy21> im new to ubuntu, i usually use suse, but i wanted to try this out
[09:33] <farruinn> ricky43: do you not have root access?
[09:33] <gnomefreak> alexandros: those are missing java libs i think (my memory is shot) so i would install java jre than try the opera install again
[09:33] <athlon> hi guys, do you have any tips on exporting a password-protected pdf to another format ?
[09:34] <ricky43> farruinn, nobody with ubuntu has, your not supposed to. so how the hell am i supposed to be installing these packages :D
[09:34] <mitsuhiko> nobody?
[09:34] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: to install a package you do 'sudo apt-get install <package-name>' at the terminal or use Synaptic (Applications>Add Software)
[09:34] <bluefrog-10> ricky43, sudo
[09:34] <brockilyguy21> ok
[09:34] <coz> get the password
[09:34] <farruinn> ricky43: use sudo: 'sudo dpkg -i <filename>'
[09:34] <brockilyguy21> what type of file should i use
[09:34] <_jason> meho_:  you can do that, but I haven't done it so I don't know... ask again in the chat without my name and someone else can probably help
[09:34] <farruinn> ricky43: and when it asks for your password give your _user_ pass
[09:34] <brockilyguy21> .tar.gz, .tgz, .bin, .rpm etc...?
[09:34] <ricky43> bluefrog-10,  farruinn , thankyou very much
[09:34] <lsuactiafner> dducko : also prefer nvidia .run files
[09:34] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: apt will download the files for you
[09:35] <brockilyguy21> what about for stuff that it doesnt have as an option like games
[09:35] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: taht's the beauty of apt - it knows where to get the files and will install everything necessary for you to run that package
[09:35] <odie5533> Is there anyway to format a USB Flash Drive?
[09:35] <brockilyguy21> ok
[09:35] <brockilyguy21> thanks
[09:35] <coz> odie 5533 why format it?
[09:35] <iiiears> Hello Seveas, Amaranth, cafuego :)
[09:35] <ricky43> synaptic really should be able to install .deb files for you by now ffs. :P thanks people
[09:35] <dducko> i have the run file
[09:35] <Enlite> which php package gives me the ability to use php at the command line?
[09:35] <iiiears> lol
[09:36] <ricky43> are there any other repositories besides Universe which i should be using?
[09:36] <Seveas> php5-cli
[09:36] <rexykik> anyone have experience in booting thin clients with ltsp?
[09:36] <lsuactiafner> odie5533 : depends to what file system format
[09:36] <rexykik> anyone have experience in booting thin clients with ltsp?
[09:36] <coz> ODIE 5533 why format the thumb drive??
[09:36] <Enlite> Seveas: thanks
[09:36] <farruinn> ricky43: no, mixing repositories is generally not a good idea
[09:36] <_jason> meho_:  be sure to read help.ubuntu.com, specifically http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installgnomebaker
[09:36] <dducko> it wont finish because the kernel is compiled with gcc 3.4 and gcc 4 is what it is set to use
[09:36] <odie5533> I don't know the format. How can I find out?
[09:36] <farruinn> ricky43: if there's a package you can't find, you may have to enable universe or multiverse
[09:36] <coz> ODIE5533 the thum drives are general in FAT
[09:36] <lsuactiafner> odie5533 : do you want to format it or determine its format?
[09:37] <odie5533> The System > Administration > Disks thing won't start for me...
[09:37] <coz> that way they are cross platform
[09:37] <dducko> short of uninstalling gcc 4 is there anyway to make it look to gcc 3.4
[09:37] <odie5533> lsuactiafner, both
[09:37] <ricky43> farruinn, yes i understand. is Universe ok to use? and i meant further ubuntu repositories, i've seen something about Multiverse, but that appears to be for the previous version?
[09:37] <root____1> test
[09:37] <Ninjew> dducko: Use update-alternatives to switch to default compiler to GCC 3.4
[09:37] <coz> there really is no need to format them unless they have become corrup somehow
[09:37] <root____1> What the hell happened to my nick -.-
[09:37] <dducko> thank you
[09:37] <sorush20> i was laying eggs this morning do you think I have bird flu?
[09:37] <coz> if you have a windows machine format them in FAT
[09:37] <coz> not FAT32
[09:37] <metalsand> woot.
[09:37] <linkd> no. ur just a smart chicken sorush20
[09:37] <farruinn> ricky43: yes, universe is generally safe
[09:37] <njan> sorush20, moreover, I think you could quite possibly just be a bird :P
[09:37] <ricky43> anybody want to tell me what i need to install for the java vm ,ie the jre equivalent. i installed sable, but it doesn't seem to work with firefox
[09:38] <ricky43> farruinn, cheers!
[09:38] <jenda> dducko: Is this about the NVIDIA driver? could you summarize the problem? I might be able to help
[09:38] <coz> sudo apt-get
[09:38] <lsuactiafner> odie5533 : dont know the gui trick, but mount /dev/sdX /mnt      where X is a b c or whatever the device is called, insert it and wait 1 minute, then run dmesg and it should tell you what X is
[09:38] <jenda> dducko: solved, i see
[09:38] <linuxboy> I'm trying to add a cdrom as an apt source, but it fails. and ideas?
[09:38] <odie5533> lsuactiafner, how do I know what x is?
[09:39] <odie5533> its on /dev/sda
[09:39] <bluefrog-10> linuxboy, what fails?
[09:39] <coz> you might have to put the cdrom into your sources list I am not sure
[09:39] <odie5533> type vfat.... is vfat stable?
[09:39] <linuxboy> bluefrog-10: it was an /etc/fstab problem ;)
[09:39] <Seveas> odie5533, yes
[09:39] <odie5533> more stable than ntfs or ext3?
[09:40] <ricky43> i am a quilified MCSE I AM A KNOW ALL
[09:40] <coz> fat is cross platform odie window/mac/linux can read the same drive in fat
[09:40] <iiiears> lol banned?
[09:41] <tristanmike> lol, that's what happens to mcse's in here. haha
[09:41] <dmlinux> ok so i just rebooted after i apt-get kubuntu-desktop and it loads gnome..,
[09:41] <dmlinux> helop
[09:41] <godmatrix> whats up people
[09:41] <kingtight> can some one pastebin me the sources.list that comes with ubuntu 5.04?
[09:41] <Seveas> !sources
[09:41] <ubotu> I heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[09:41] <Amaranth> dmlinux: in gdm (login screen) choose the session option
[09:41] <Seveas> ^-- kingtight
[09:41] <JohannesTai> hello people
[09:41] <godmatrix> anyone in here famiiar with openvpn?
[09:41] <godmatrix> for linux
[09:41] <dmlinux> amaranth o
[09:41] <odie5533> Seveas, can you send me a link to the CoC? I don't want to get banned like that :S
[09:41] <farruinn> what's MCSE?
[09:41] <brockilyguy21> i need help, how do i add files to the add programs in Synaptic Package Manger
[09:41] <Seveas> !coc
[09:41] <ubotu> from memory, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[09:41] <rexykik> anyone have experience in booting thin clients with ltsp?
[09:41] <JohannesTai> I need help on getting WMV-videos working on Ubuntu 5.10
[09:41] <godmatrix> anyone familiar with OpenVPN for linux -ubuntu?
[09:41] <NoUse> farruinn Microsot Certified System Engineer
[09:42] <budgester> MineSweeper Consultant Solitaire Expert = MCSE
[09:42] <odie5533> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCSE
[09:42] <kingtight> i love bots and ty
[09:42] <NoUse> budgester haha
[09:42] <gnomefreak> i hate that word :(
[09:42] <_jason> JohannesTai:  have you isntalled the w32codecs?
[09:42] <brockilyguy21> i need help, how do i add files to the add programs in Synaptic Package Manger
[09:42] <JohannesTai> I didn't fing them either on Synaptic or with apt-get
[09:42] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, what's your pb?
[09:42] <coz> Johannes Tai do you have your dvds and other video working ?
[09:42] <to2> hi ..
[09:42] <rexykik> ubuntu.
[09:42] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: which package are you trying to install specifically?
[09:42] <rexykik> pb...problem?
[09:42] <_jason> !tell JohannesTai about w32codecs
[09:42] <gnomefreak> brockilyguy21, are you tryign to install from synaptic or put files into synaptic?
[09:43] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, yes
[09:43] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: I don't understand what you mean by "add files" - you shouuldn't need to add files
[09:43] <brockilyguy21> stuff i download and gimp perl
[09:43] <godmatrix> I guess no one is familar with openvpn for linux
[09:43] <brockilyguy21> like download them and install them
[09:43] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: don't download source or tarballs or anything like that.  use apt
[09:43] <JohannesTai> can't say on dvd, since I don't have dvd-player, but other videos I tried work well
[09:43] <kingtight> !universe multiverse
[09:43] <ubotu> kingtight: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:43] <Seveas> brockilyguy21, that's not how you install things on ubuntu
[09:43] <rexykik> problem is that it will boot pxe from the server but i'm thinking that it doesnt load X from an X server. It is seeming to create an X session locally rather than remotely (i get xdm, but when i log in it just kills my x session before starting a new one automatically)
[09:43] <brockilyguy21> how can i download stuff that they dont have as an option then
[09:43] <linkd> thats not a parse error, thats a syntax error
[09:43] <_jason> JohannesTai:  read what ubotu sent you for the codecs
[09:43] <Seveas> brockilyguy21, enable universe
[09:43] <Seveas> that has all you need and more
[09:44] <Seveas> !tell brockilyguy21 about repos
[09:44] <gnomefreak> !sources      kingtight
[09:44] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Are you on ritalin?
[09:44] <coz> johannestai gedit /etc/sources.list
[09:44] <godmatrix> brock.. download files?  untar.gz is that what you mean
[09:44] <JohannesTai> _jason, thanks
[09:44] <brockilyguy21> yea
[09:44] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, what ltsp did u install on breezy?
[09:44] <godmatrix> so you want to run something.. that is tar
[09:44] <budgester> or even sudo gedit /etc/sources.list
[09:44] <brockilyguy21> yes
[09:44] <rexykik> i think it was called 'ltsp-standalone-general'
[09:44] <godmatrix> [filename] .tar.gz
[09:44] <godmatrix> right
[09:44] <brockilyguy21> yup
[09:44] <godmatrix> ok
[09:44] <godmatrix> simple
[09:45] <brockilyguy21> and i tried compiling and the make file stuff
[09:45] <rexykik> there is a wiki for booting clients...i've already set up NAT.
[09:45] <godmatrix> you using ubuntu
[09:45] <brockilyguy21> yup
[09:45] <godmatrix> did you untar.gz already
[09:45] <brockilyguy21> yes
[09:45] <rexykik> brockilyguy21, did you install the program's dependencies before trying to install the program itself?
[09:45] <budgester> or even tar -zvf file.tar.gz
[09:45] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, if u don't use edubuntu u 'd be better off installing normal ltsp not standalone
[09:45] <budgester> or even tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[09:45] <JohannesTai> budgester, what should I add there? and there's a problem installing tarballs, since I have no clue on how to :P
[09:45] <rexykik> i used edbuntu
[09:45] <brockilyguy21> no
[09:45] <rexykik> in which case should i be in #edbuntu?
[09:45] <brockilyguy21> they wont install either
[09:46] <iiiears> How do i add  (module?) radio.  /dev/radio   ?
[09:46] <jonny> hey I would like to UNinstall kubuntu desktop on breezy
[09:46] <coz> johannesaaaaaTai first you need to get rid of toten gstreamer
[09:46] <mnirr> can i use debian packages (.deb) on ubuntu?
[09:46] <to2> someone has a hint how to leave the automatically 'update' the red button in the gnome-panel if i don't want the specially files ...?
[09:46] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: I don't know why you're trying to install from source - apt does all the work for you. You're making more work for yourself
[09:46] <JohannesTai> ah, that file is .deb
[09:46] <coz> and instal totem-xine
[09:46] <godmatrix> I know... my openvpn is hitting the same problem.. then I had to restart
[09:46] <rexykik> mnirr: sudo dpkg <filename>.deb
[09:46] <brockilyguy21> nvm, i will just get a book for Debian
[09:46] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, u could :). i can give u complete setup for ltsp on normal breezy as well
[09:46] <rempresent> how to i mount my fat32 harddrive from the terminal
[09:46] <_jason> JohannesTai:  dpkg -i filename.deb
[09:46] <rexykik> i've done ltsp before
[09:46] <rexykik> i'm on a server now
[09:46] <rexykik> some setting is wrong though.
[09:46] <budgester> ltsp is fun
[09:47] <rexykik> i'll try edbuntu
[09:47] <civi> damn it, ubuntu installation hanged my PC again
[09:47] <civi> now from normal cd
[09:47] <gnomefreak> farruinn, apt-get only works if the program is in the sources that you have enabled
[09:47] <civi> not dvd
[09:47] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, hang on try...
[09:47] <JohannesTai> _jason, thank you again :)
[09:47] <rexykik> yeah so edbuntu totally isnt a channel
[09:47] <_jason> JohannesTai:  np
[09:47] <iiiears> rempresent - check out this script winmac_fstab ubotu has the link
[09:47] <gnomefreak> rexykik,  try #edubuntu
[09:47] <farruinn> gnomefreak: yes, and there additional ubuntu sources that aren't enabled by default (which he probably hasn't enabled)
[09:47] <iiiears> !ntfs
[09:47] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:47] <rexykik> ahh
[09:47] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, sudo rm /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts if you have that on your server..
[09:47] <rempresent> thanks
[09:47] <gnomefreak> farruinn, yes uni and multi uni
[09:48] <mirak> what's a twat ?
[09:48] <budgester> the guys in the #ltsp channel are really good, and jim the main dev hangs out in there as well
[09:48] <linuxboy> is there a doc/wikipage on managing lots of ubuntu PCs? Or should I start one?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> mirak, thats just a bit off topic?
[09:48] <StarKruzr> yes
[09:48] <odie5533> mirak: female genitilia, and lets end it at that
[09:48] <Ralth> ! need help when you get a chance -- having problems installing ubuntu.
[09:48] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Ralth
[09:48] <StarKruzr> take it to #ubuntu-sex, please
[09:48] <mirak> gnomefreak: they called me a twat
[09:48] <mirak> lol
[09:48] <mirak> I am kidding
[09:48] <jonny> can I uninstall kubuntu deskto on breezy?
[09:48] <StarKruzr> LOL
[09:49] <mirak> odie5533: oh like pussy you mean ?
[09:49] <StarKruzr> SOMEONE REGISTERED #UBUNTU-SEX
[09:49] <Seveas> jonny, sure
[09:49] <odie5533> jonny: yes
[09:49] <jonny> how
[09:49] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, and then sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys. it's an edubuntu bug but i think that'sur pb as well with the standalone
[09:49] <gnomefreak> jonny: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <Seveas> StarKruzr, drop the caps
[09:49] <odie5533> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <jonny> I said uninstall
[09:49] <gnomefreak> oops uninstall
[09:49] <gnomefreak> sorry
[09:49] <jonny> no prob
[09:49] <rexykik> i'll give it a try
[09:49] <gnomefreak> instead of install put remove
[09:49] <StFS> should I use LVM? I'm setting up Kubuntu on a Dell D810 with a 80Gb SATA HD
[09:49] <odie5533> johnny: man apt-get
[09:49] <jonny> ok
[09:50] <Seveas> StarKruzr, there is no purpose in shouting...
[09:50] <beruic> Is it normal that when I update from Hoary to Breezy, a message is shown when I reload the sources that a lot of things can't be updated???
[09:50] <bobbyd> does the livecd include lspci? and can I boot to a command line?
[09:50] <StarKruzr> Seveas: it expresses enthusiasm!
[09:50] <odie5533> Is vFat more stable than Ext3?
[09:50] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, but tit might be xdm causing u pb. u should stick with gdm
[09:50] <iiiears> bobbyd - yes
[09:50] <gnomefreak> beruic, disable the backports
[09:50] <beruic> What?
[09:50] <rexykik> bluefrog-10, know how to set it to boot to gdm instead of xdm?
[09:50] <beruic> What is that?
[09:50] <StarKruzr> odie more "stable?"  what do you mean?
[09:51] <budgester> rex: apt-get install gdm, followed by apt-get remove xdm
[09:51] <gnomefreak> beruic, paste your errors on pastebin adn we will look at the errors
[09:51] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, have u installed xdm?
[09:51] <rexykik> i believe so
[09:51] <beruic> 2 sec...
[09:51] <gnomefreak> beruic, ok
[09:51] <bobbyd> iiiears, how do i boot to a command line
[09:51] <beruic> Pastebin, What is that?
[09:52] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, if u don't recall installing it i bet it's not installed
[09:52] <_jason> !pastebin
[09:52] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:52] <rexykik> yeah?
[09:52] <jonny> and does "sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop" work?
[09:52] <rexykik> well then no
[09:52] <gnomefreak> ty _jason
[09:52] <StFS> can anyone tell me what this LVM (Large Volume Manager) actually does? Should I use that option or the one that doesn't have that when setting up Kubuntu?
[09:52] <beruic> thx
[09:52] <Ralth> OK. I will just go ahead and ask..... When I try to install, it freezes up with a message of "Loading module 'ide-cd' for 'Linux ATAPI CD-ROM'..."  Any idea what is wrong or how to fix it?
[09:52] <civi> shit, now installation hange in moment where its downloading additional langs
[09:52] <webtoe> bobbyd, you mean everytime? or just this once?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> jonny should work
[09:52] <civi> is it close to installation finish ?
[09:52] <iiiears> bobbyd -  i think you can always get one after booting by using CTRL+ALT+F2 - is that helpful?
[09:52] <budgester> rex: you also need xdmcp (?) available in gdm/xdm otherwise the it won't allow you to connect
[09:52] <puff> Every nwo and then it seems that my up/down arrorws and pageup/pagedown stop working in firefox.
[09:52] <bobbyd> webtoe, just once
[09:52] <Seveas> StFS, LVM combines several physical disks into one logical disk
[09:52] <puff> Thoguh the mouse scorll-wheel still works.
[09:52] <StarKruzr> StFS: you probably won't hurt anything by using it.  it allows you to easily reallocate partitions, among other things
[09:52] <rexykik> budgester, ahhh
[09:52] <jonny> ok, thats easier for me (12 year old) to use, correct, gnomefreak
[09:52] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, so try the ssh trick. if not working afterwards, install normal ltsp instead of standalone
[09:53] <jonny> ?
[09:53] <StFS> StarKruzr, Seveas: ok... thanks
[09:53] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, working fine
[09:53] <rexykik> bluefrog-10, i'm attempting bootage now
[09:53] <webtoe> bobbyd, year iiiears is right. ctrl-alt-F2 will do it. Then use alt-F7 to get back to the desktop
[09:53] <gnomefreak> jonny i cant remember if its in the sources (edubuntu-desktop)
[09:53] <StarKruzr> isn't that a COPPA violation?
[09:53] <bobbyd> webtoe, I just wanted to boot to the command line instead of booting X
[09:53] <jonny> is there any downsides as apposed to breezy?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> jonny: ive never used edubuntu
[09:54] <lsuactiafner> ok ive never ever before ran an ubuntu kernel but now ive upgraded to gcc4/breezy and need a gcc4 kernel.. how do i install the kernel
[09:54] <StarKruzr> (not that I would ever discourage a 12 year old from using open source software)
[09:54] <kingtight> ty Seveas & gnomefreak
[09:54] <civi> maybe anyone know why installation of amd64 ubuntu hangs in random place ?
[09:54] <webtoe> bobbyd, to boot to the command line without X running you need to change your run level
[09:54] <StarKruzr> jonny: edubuntu IS breezy, just like kubuntu is breezy too
[09:54] <JohannesTai> _jason, I tried that command, but it says it needs superuser privilege
[09:54] <StarKruzr> "breezy" is just the revision of the packages in the distro
[09:54] <_jason> !tell JohannesTai about sudo
[09:54] <jonny> but if i try i can do "sudo apt-get remove edubuntu-desktop" correct, gnomefreak?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> StarKruzr, dont forget about xubuntu :)
[09:55] <StarKruzr> gnomefreak: that too :)
[09:55] <kingtight> my sources.list is all gold now
[09:55] <_jason> JohannesTai:  just use: "sudo" in front of it but read about it in the link that ubotu sent you
[09:55] <gnomefreak> to install it type sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <StarKruzr> it must be hard to download gold into your computer
[09:55] <jonny> if i dont like it that is
[09:55] <bobbyd> webtoe, how do I do that?
[09:55] <StarKruzr> I'm not sure if it would fit into the wires
[09:55] <iiiears> StarKruzr - uses "Alchemy 2.0" - grin
[09:56] <lsuactiafner> what package is the kernel called?
[09:56] <StarKruzr> oy :)
[09:56] <gnomefreak> jonny: sudo apt-get remove is used to remove programs sudo apt-get install is used to install programs sudo apt-get upgrade is to update programs
[09:56] <lsuactiafner> for breezy amd64
[09:56] <rexykik> budgester: you know how to make xdmcp available in gdm/xdm for ltsp?
[09:56] <webtoe> bobbyd, if you just want to do it temporarily. Type ctrl-alt-F2 to get to the command line, then type telinit 1. that will put you in single user mode
[09:56] <webtoe> bobbyd, you'll need to use sudo telinit 1 actually
[09:57] <gnomefreak> beruic, your welcome and please dont pm me without asking first
[09:58] <beruic> k
[09:58] <civi> lsuactiafner: one question... you didnt expects system hangs during the installation of ubuntu amd64 ?
[09:59] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, change /etc/gdm/gdm.conf with XDMCP enable=true
[09:59] <bobbyd> webtoe, thanks
[09:59] <lsuactiafner> civi : i installed breezy and only upgraded from here..
[09:59] <budgester> rexykik: should be in the config file of gdm
[09:59] <JohannesTai> _jason, works now, so great big bundle of thanks and happiness to you :)
[09:59] <lsuactiafner> err installed hoary
[09:59] <_jason> JohannesTai:  your welcome
[09:59] <jonny> when I do "sudo apt-get upgrade" I get this: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3663
[10:00] <rexykik> woah...i dont think i have gdm installed either
[10:00] <rexykik> gdm.conf doesnt exist
[10:00] <gnomefreak> jonny: you used sudo?
[10:00] <budgester> apt-get gdm
[10:00] <Seveas> jonny, double check that you use sudo
[10:00] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, have u installed ubuntu server only?
[10:01] <jonny> no I did not! sorry to waste your time
[10:01] <kingtight> how so i install this http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[10:01] <rexykik> bluefrog-10, yeah. and openssh server
[10:01] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, sad :)
[10:01] <gnomefreak> jonny: not a waste here to help
[10:01] <rexykik> :)
[10:01] <rexykik> its a test project
[10:01] <rexykik> might be installing something remotely in turkey
[10:01] <Neurosis> Hello
[10:01] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, install from normal ubuntu. u'll get less pb
[10:02] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, hello
[10:02] <jonny> now i get this!
[10:02] <budgester> rexykik: you might want to try reading through the docs on the ltsp site or try k12ltsp
[10:02] <gnomefreak> lol jonny
[10:02] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, or at least now do an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:02] <Neurosis> I just got my pack of Ubuntu cds yesterday.
[10:02] <jonny> oh nevermind, yet another error
[10:02] <jonny> hold on
[10:02] <rexykik> eh...i feel a bit swarmed now. why ubuntu desktop?
[10:02] <budgester> rexykik: I know k12ltsp works real well, I had 200 machines running of it at a school i admin at
[10:02] <_jason> Neurosis:  when did you order?
[10:02] <jonny> ill give it to you
[10:02] <rexykik> i mean...i have KDE...i installed full edubuntu
[10:03] <bluefrog-10> budgester, no need to go K12, ltsp working fine on breezy
[10:03] <jonny> here: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3664
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Seveas, is there a way to take my ubuntu system as is and burn it to be installable with all the programs on it now?
[10:03] <Neurosis> A while back
[10:03] <Neurosis> Iv only tried the live cds so far
[10:03] <Seveas> gnomefreak, dpkg --get-selections will help :0
[10:03] <gnomefreak> jonny: do you have synaptic open?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> ty Seveas
[10:03] <budgester> bluefrog-10: fair one been a while since I used it, but I know k12 just loads up straight away and does all the config
[10:03] <jonny> no, I did have another terminal open though
[10:04] <StarKruzr> so guys, how do I change my system - permanently - to statically configure its IP address instead of using DHCP?
[10:04] <budgester> bluefrog-10: even my nan could do it :-)
[10:04] <rexykik> budgester: yeah i know...i'm doing this for my company; we install ltsp on a regular basis
[10:04] <gnomefreak> jonny close one terminal and try it again
[10:04] <bluefrog-10> budgester, i know. been using it long enough. i just can' stand how slow is gnome desktop on FC
[10:04] <jonny> ok i will when Im finished with the other one
[10:04] <budgester> bluefrog-10: tell it like it is brother
[10:05] <rexykik> FC=:(
[10:05] <jonny> how is breezy better than hoary?
[10:05] <iiiears> Does    chmod 666 /dev/video0   sound like a good idea?
[10:05] <Neurosis> Can i mount my NTFS drive with Ubuntu?
[10:05] <Camper_Jo> yepp
[10:05] <gnomefreak> Seveas, omfg what was that? ok wait i know what that was is there a way to burn it all together tho?
[10:05] <budgester> iiiears: depends what your trying to do
[10:05] <Seveas> gnomefreak, not that i know od
[10:05] <Camper_Jo> why isnt there a netinstall for ubuntu.. that would have been superb
[10:06] <gnomefreak> jonny: breezy has newer versions of programs and some other programs that hoary didnt have
[10:06] <gnomefreak> ok ty Seveas
[10:06] <jonny> oh
[10:06] <iiiears> Neurosis - Welcome to Ubuntu! :)  - check out the link and especially the winmac_fstab.sh script you can learn some nice tricks from it. - i did
[10:06] <ncp> is there a special way i have to install nvidia drivers on ubuntu 5.10 64bits? i get this error when i change my xorg.conf to nvidia " Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":  No symbols found " an not sure how to fix it
[10:06] <iiiears> !ntfs
[10:06] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:06] <StarKruzr> Camper_Jo: you can netinstall ubuntu using a Debian CD
[10:06] <jonny> i didnt notice much difference between the 2, is breezy more stable?
[10:07] <iiiears> budgester - "Device available to root" - is what i have know.
[10:07] <Neurosis> Where is the link iiiears?
[10:07] <jonny> oh, actually, come to think of it, I never had hoary, just warty, before breezy!
[10:07] <Camper_Jo> starkruzr : really, cool, any hints on where I can read more about that, or can you give me some quick tips on howto?
[10:07] <gnomefreak> jonny: that im not sure of but i havent had a problem with either that i would concider unstable
[10:07] <ncp> !nvidia
[10:07] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:07] <Neurosis> i got it
[10:07] <Neurosis> Thank you much.
[10:07] <iiiears> budgester - you'll look at it? - AH great! - give me a second :)
[10:07] <Camper_Jo> I am already downloading the debian netinstall cd
[10:07] <jonny> is it more stable than XP? gnomefreak
[10:08] <gnomefreak> jonny: linux in general is more stable than xp
[10:08] <budgester> jonny: does the pope wear a funny hat ?
[10:08] <jonny> I like it better because every day you face a new problem and its fun to solve them
[10:08] <Neurosis> Also, id like to know if there is ways i can save my last settings on ubuntu live cds?
[10:08] <budgester> jonny: yer learning is fun
[10:08] <Camper_Jo> jonny: and you dont have defragmentation problems.. windows is a "format every 3 months" OS...
[10:08] <gnomefreak> jonny out side of winME xp is the most unstable version
[10:09] <budgester> gnomefreak: didn't use 3.1 much then did ya :-)
[10:09] <ncp> Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":  No symbols found << get this error when i have installede the nvidia driver on my ubuntu 5.10 64bits... the nvidia logo comes up, an then this error. any idea on how to fix it?
[10:09] <jonny> is it? I figured like 3.1 or something like that would be!
[10:09] <gnomefreak> Camper_Jo, i dont remember ever seeeing anything about defrag in linux until the oteher day lol
[10:09] <gnomefreak> budgester, nope never
[10:09] <Camper_Jo> :)
[10:10] <budgester> gnomefreak: your a lucky man, the most stable system i ever used was OS/400 but thats cos no one wanted to use it
[10:10] <Neurosis> When i go to install Ubuntu, will it automaticaly set partitions or should i clean all my partitions before starting?
[10:10] <bluefrog-10> Neurosis, u will be able to partition as u want during the install
[10:11] <budgester> Neurosis: it gives you the option of blatting your HD if you want
[10:11] <gnomefreak> jonny: think about this linux=1 maybe 2 viruses (that attack email only) windows=millions of them that attack your file system :) better choice is??
[10:11] <jonny> yah
[10:11] <budgester> blat = wipe = clean =re-format
[10:11] <gnomefreak> lol budgester
[10:11] <Neurosis> Alright.
[10:11] <Neurosis> Good help.
[10:11] <gnomefreak> is the new java os linux?
[10:12] <theine> gnomefreak, new java os?
[10:12] <budgester> gnomefreak: which java os would that be
[10:12] <Neurosis> i got shipped like 40 cds
[10:12] <Neurosis> hehe
[10:12] <Mike219> can someone here help me with installing a x600 graphics card?
[10:12] <gnomefreak> :( ok tell me im not crazy
[10:12] <gnomefreak> i gotta find this lol
[10:13] <budgester> gnomefreak: you not crazy, but you are very very wierd ;-)
[10:13] <budgester> gnomefreak: but thats ok cause we still love ya
[10:13] <Pyrotas> #ubuntu-de
[10:13] <gnomefreak> lol budgester
[10:13] <towsonu2003> test (sorry, cgi:irc; never tried before)
[10:14] <iiiears> bugester - lol
[10:14] <bluefrog-10> Neurosis, so that u can have for breakfast during a bit more than a month?
[10:14] <iiiears> budegester  - still willing to take a look?  http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/407021
[10:15] <kingright> where do i get drives for a HP 3520 printer?
[10:15] <budgester> iiiears: whats was you trying to to mate
[10:15] <kingright> for linux
[10:16] <iiiears> budgester - trying to get a video/fm card working. -  no /dev/radio  listed a bit baffled at what is likely obvious to you. ;)
[10:16] <towsonu2003> finally i'm here - nice - hi
[10:16] <rexykik> rex: you also need xdmcp (?) available in gdm/xdm otherwise the it won't allow you to connect
[10:16] <gnomefreak> http://digg.com/software/Java_OS   guys its not an os but this is what i was talking about  i think its made by sun tho
[10:17] <hart> how do i install chinese fonts, trying apt-get install ttf-han but nothing, is han chinese?
[10:17] <KurtKraut> If I let my computer turned on untouched for more than 10h, Xorg gets from 80 to 100% CPU nonstop. I can't use my PC for more than 10h. I reve to reboot to get this solved. I've already pasted with the same machine using WinXP 5 days online with no significant loss of performace.
[10:18] <KurtKraut> Do I have to install WinXP to use my computer for more than 10h ? Why Xorg on Ubuntu gets so much processing ?
[10:18] <HaloGray> Hello.
[10:18] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Are you using the x.org composite extension?
[10:18] <HaloGray> Anybody do anything with hardware RAID support and linux?
[10:19] <HaloGray> Specifically, I'm looking to install Breezy on an nforce3 raid set
[10:19] <budgester> iiiears, and what application are you using to interface with the card ?
[10:19] <HaloGray> Looking for RAID1 support from it.
[10:19] <iiiears> budgester, - gnomeradio, radio and tvtime.
[10:19] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I don't know... how can I check that ?
[10:19] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: If you don't know, you probably aren't
[10:20] <Neurosis> Is Abuntu all in all a good Distrobution for Linux?
[10:20] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I've never changed Xorg settings. I didn't changed any .conf files. So, that means that Ubuntu shouldn't be used for more than 10h ?
[10:20] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, abuntu?
[10:20] <Neurosis> ubuntu
[10:20] <Neurosis> i mean
[10:20] <Neurosis> ;D
[10:21] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: no, something is wrong
[10:21] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, yes its a great distro ask anyone here they will tell u same thing :)
[10:21] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, yes, I bet that ;) Any suggestions ?
[10:21] <EvilGuru> agreed
[10:21] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, really what do you plan on using it for?
[10:21] <towsonu2003> although I posted this to ubuntuforums, I wanted to ask it here as well: my modem (an slmodem, using slmodemd precompiled) is working only in ubuntu, and I did not load the slmodem deamon. Any one has any ideas about this?
[10:21] <Neurosis> Kay, great.  I got a pack of like 30 cds from the netherlands of this distro, lmao!.
[10:21] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: I'm thinking -- what kind of video card do you have
[10:21] <iiiears> budgester - How is radio  added to /dev    so it becomes /dev/radio  ?
[10:22] <Neurosis> Im internested in trying lots of diff distros
[10:22] <budgester> iiiears: and you got it set to use v4l drivers ?
[10:22] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, NVIDIA... GeForce MX 440... a very popular one.
[10:22] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, once you go ubuntu you will never go back to winblows well atleast i didnt :)
[10:22] <bluefrog-10> Neurosis, besides wasting fundation's money, what r u going to do with 40 cds?
[10:22] <iiiears> budgester - yes -  think so how can i make sure?
[10:22] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Do you know if you are using nVidia's proprietary drivers, or the builtin x.org ones
[10:22] <Neurosis> I only use windows for chatting, my other box runs on Gentoo Linux
[10:23] <gnomefreak> my cds havent come yet :(
[10:23] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I've acquired NVIDIA drivers from aptitude
[10:23] <jenda> gnomefreak: neither have mine. 4-6 weeks they say
[10:23] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, when X stats, a logo of NVIDIA appears on the screen
[10:23] <budgester> iiiears: to be honest, its not really my field
[10:23] <Neurosis> Give them out to the school bluefrog-10
[10:23] <gnomefreak> Neurosis,  i can tell you ubuntu is 100% easier to install than gentoo
[10:23] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, when X starts, a logo of NVIDIA appears on the screen
[10:23] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: ok, so you are using the proprietary drivers, hmmm
[10:23] <bluefrog-10> Neurosis, ok then
[10:23] <towsonu2003> gnomefreak: mine either :(
[10:24] <Eddie> hrm
[10:24] <iiiears> budgester - lol - i understand - I appreciate your help though thank you :)
[10:24] <Eddie> I need a little help setting up fetchmail on ubuntu
[10:24] <gnomefreak> jenda: all i remember is i ordered them b4 oct1 im gonna see if you can still check on order
[10:24] <Eddie> basically I want to use pine like the good old days
[10:24] <Neurosis> Is it as easy as Mandrake install? lol
[10:24] <budgester> gnomefreak:thats like saying jumping is easier than flying
[10:24] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, yes
[10:25] <Eddie> Can anyone send me where I can get fetchmailconf for ubuntu
[10:25] <Neurosis> Hehe.
[10:25] <bobbyd> if ubuntu recognises my PCI modem will it automatically be under /dev/modem?
[10:25] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: I'm not sure, then -- video is the first thing that comes to mind, but it could be software - you're using gnome?
[10:25] <Neurosis> I like Ubuntu from what i have done with the live cd.
[10:25] <gnomefreak> budgester,  i had a hell of a time installing gentoo with guide up on one pc and gentoo install on other :(
[10:25] <budgester> iiiears: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24813
[10:25] <grgcsmc> how do i install a .tar.bz2 file?
[10:25] <iiiears> budgester - there isn't a radio (module?) in /dev/radio  - how do i add it?
[10:26] <Neurosis> Problems installing your drivers for it?
[10:26] <jenda> gnomefreak: but they didn't come out till the 13
[10:26] <towsonu2003> bobbyd: you could try sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf to find out where it is...
[10:26] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I'm using XFCE4 at the moment, to get a less worse performance. I if use gnome, the performance gets even worse.
[10:26] <gnomefreak> jenda i know :(
[10:26] <budgester> gnomefreak: why do people put themselves through that pain ?
[10:26] <grgcsmc> how do i install a .tar.bz2 file?
[10:26] <gnomefreak> budgester, i wanted to try it i was in my trying every distro i could download
[10:26] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak:  what about the gentoo install did you have issues with ?
[10:26] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: if you restart XFree, does it go back to normal CPU usage? Or do you have to reboot the whole computer
[10:26] <jenda> gnomefreak: mine are "sent to shiping company"
[10:26] <farruinn> grgcsmc: do you *need* to?
[10:27] <hart> why can't i apt-get install mplayer?
[10:27] <Neurosis> When i install Ubuntu, can i put KDE on it?
[10:27] <iiiears> budgester - Thats perfect. nice link. :)
[10:27] <farruinn> grgcsmc: apt is a better solution unless the software you're looking for is simply unavailable
[10:27] <towsonu2003> KurtKraut: would you advice a newbie coming from windows xp to use xfce?
[10:27] <kent> Neurosis, yes you can.  :) Just install it with synaptic..
[10:27] <bobbyd> towsonu2003, if that detects it does that mean it's supported?
[10:27] <Neurosis> oh so KDE comes in the cd too
[10:27] <grgcsmc> farrunn: its the only format that i can find the gimp version 2.3.4 in
[10:27] <budgester> iiiears: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8949.html looks like you need to prod udev
[10:27] <Neurosis> Good
[10:27] <ks1> is there an easy way to have ubuntu boot to console instead of gdm? like changing default runlevel or does something else  have to be done?
[10:27] <towsonu2003> bobbyd: yes :)
[10:28] <gnomefreak> Gentoo_Junkie, the part after the partioning i cant remember what it was exactly
[10:28] <bobbyd> towsonu2003, :)
[10:28] <kent> Neurosis, not sure its on the cd, but it is in the ubuntu archive..
[10:28] <Neurosis> Alright
[10:28] <Neurosis> Thats good
[10:28] <lsuactiafner> KurtKraut : use blackbox or fluxbox
[10:28] <gnomefreak> jenda: mine too
[10:28] <farruinn> grgcsmc: is there a feature in 2.3 you need that's not available in the breezy version?
[10:28] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak, : determining which filesys to use or extracting stage3 tarball ?
[10:28] <budgester> iiiears: google is your friend :-)
[10:28] <jonny> when I do "sudo apt-get remove edubuntu-desktop" This is at the end, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3665
[10:28] <iiiears> budgester - spend any time here and i cannot help but learn something. "udev"???
[10:28] <grgcsmc> farruinn: yes
[10:28] <KurtKraut> lsuactiafner, do I have to use blackbox or fluxbox for a 2.4ghz processor and 256mb DDR for RAM !?
[10:28] <towsonu2003> Neurosis: you could try kubuntu (kde ubuntu)
[10:28] <gnomefreak> extracting stage tarball was it
[10:29] <selinium> towsonu2003, why use xfce? It is a front end for older machines?
[10:29] <ks1> is there an easy way to have ubuntu boot to console instead of gdm? like changing default runlevel or does something else  have to be done?
[10:29] <Neurosis> I never got cds on Kubuntu
[10:29] <grgcsmc> farruinn: how would i install it?
[10:29] <budgester> iiiears: userland automatic device configuration i believe
[10:29] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak, : well i am assuming your done with gentoo eeh ?
[10:29] <iiiears> budgester - It sure is. and linux users are a helpful bunch.
[10:29] <Neurosis> I love Gentoo
[10:29] <KurtKraut> towsonu2003, no, never... but my problem is, even with gnome or XFCE, after 10h turned on, my Xorg processes uses 100% of CPU.
[10:29] <kent> ks1, /etc/inittab
[10:29] <KurtKraut> I'm getting very upset with Ubuntu because of that.
[10:29] <ks1> kent change it to 4 instead of 2.
[10:29] <towsonu2003> selinium: yes, my mom has an old computer...
[10:29] <gnomefreak> Gentoo_Junkie, i might try it again but the guide was very lil help when it got to that part and #gentoo was 0 help there
[10:30] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Does restarting X fix the problem? OR is it just rebooting the entire machine
[10:30] <jonny> when I do "sudo apt-get remove edubuntu-desktop" This is at the end, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3665
[10:30] <grgcsmc> farruinn: how would i install it?
[10:30] <iiiears> budgester - Thanks much  ;)
[10:30] <farruinn> grgcsmc: you need to unarchive it: tar -xvj <filename>, then enter the directory and follow the instructions in INSTALL and README
[10:30] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak: actually the gentoo installation guide is pretty helpful if you do everything exactly the guide sez everything should run smooth except perhapt the kernel config
[10:30] <budgester> iiiears: your welcome
[10:30] <Neurosis> Im going to install Ubuntu to my machine today.
[10:30] <thirso> Can anybody tell me how do i fix my usplash?
[10:30] <gnomefreak> jonny: breezy doesnt have backports
[10:30] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, to check that, I have to press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, right ? I'm downloading some stuff at the moment. The downloads will be lost if I do that ?
[10:30] <selinium> towsonu2003, but if it can run xp it will run gnome or KDE (gnome is my pref) but if it can't then use xfce. I use gnome on a athlon 900 128k ram
[10:30] <grgcsmc> thx
[10:31] <Gentoo_Junkie> anyone know how to setup neomagic cards with opengl ?
[10:31] <jonny> how can I remove edubuntu?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> Gentoo_Junkie, the tarball part said to type "soandso" and i wasnt sure if they meant word for word or if i had to put something in there
[10:31] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: yes, they will, but that will restart X
[10:31] <budgester> Kurt: yup your downloads will die
[10:31] <gnomefreak> jonny: is it installed?
[10:31] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I will do it now. Just hold a sec.
[10:31] <jonny> yup
[10:31] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak: tar xvjpf stage3-verison- should of done it
[10:31] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Either way, if X continues to use 100% CPU after doing that, perhaps you have a kernel / hardware problem - has this happened in other linux distros?
[10:31] <thirso> where can i download a image for usplash?
[10:32] <Camper_Jo> oh yeah.. about the xorg 7.0 modular rc1, does it exist for ubuntu?
[10:32] <Rawplayer> re
[10:32] <jonny> i dont like it
[10:32] <budgester> KurtKraut: for downloads try wget and background it
[10:32] <gnomefreak> Gentoo_Junkie,  the version threw me
[10:32] <jonny> (as much)
[10:32] <budgester> then you can restart X a will
[10:32] <Eddie> im having trouble listening to www.queensradio.org on rhythmbox
[10:32] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak: i would suggest dl'ing the latest tarball for both stage3 and the portage tree.
[10:32] <Eddie> is there some kind of plugin I need to install
[10:32] <gnomefreak> jonny: go into you repos and uncheck the the backports repo
[10:32] <budgester> Eddie: you say that like its a bad thing :-)
[10:32] <thirso> Eddie: try with Beep Media Player
[10:32] <jonny> ok
[10:33] <Eddie> budgester, isnt it?
[10:33] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I've restarted X and now the CPU is absolutely free.
[10:33] <Eddie> thirso, can i apt-get it?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> Gentoo_Junkie, is that the hardest part of it? or does it get harder?
[10:33] <budgester> Eddie: dunno never listened to it ;-)
[10:33] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, now it is normal. I've I keep this machine running for more 10h, the problem will happen again.
[10:33] <Eddie> budgester, its our university radio server :D so alot of my friends are on it most of the time
[10:33] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak: i would have to say for a new gentoo user the kernel config is the hardest part, but once you have done once it gets lots easier since its the same configuration everytime.
[10:33] <towsonu2003> sorry I'm posting again, but maybe someone missed it? : slmodemd working only in ubuntu. why could that be?
[10:34] <farruinn> Eddie: beep is in universe
[10:34] <gnomefreak> Gentoo_Junkie, and im assuming the guide will get me past that?
[10:34] <thirso> Eddie: yeah you can
[10:34] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak: it should yes.
[10:34] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: OK, so here is what I would do to troubleshoot this problem: go into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and try changing your video card drivers from 'nvidia' to 'nv'. See if it happens then (note you won't get 3d acceleration under nv, but we can worry about that later)
[10:34] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak: if not just use the genkernel.
[10:34] <jonny> wich one is the backports repo?
[10:35] <thirso> Eddie: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[10:35] <gnomefreak> gentoo:yes i will give gentoo another try after dinner
[10:35] <LasseL> gnomefreak, I ran gentoo 2,5 years and it was just like having a second job as a sysadmin every time i turned my computer on :(
[10:35] <Neurosis> Good gnomefreak.
[10:35] <gnomefreak> the one that says backports
[10:35] <dm> anyone know what format icon packs have to be in to install them to KDI
[10:35] <Neurosis> tis a good distro
[10:35] <budgester> gnomefreak: with all the compiling you don't just do gentoo after dinner surely
[10:35] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I should do this change and let the PC running for another 10 hours to see if the CPU problem happens again, right ?
[10:35] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Comment out anything that says "composite" in it also, if you see it
[10:35] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Its worth a shot
[10:35] <gnomefreak> budgester,  i know i will start on it after dinner
[10:36] <EvilGuru> gentoo takes a good day
[10:36] <Gentoo_Junkie> shrug once you compile the program once you can use the older version until the new version is done compiling.
[10:36] <EvilGuru> ubuntu a good hour
[10:36] <budgester> gnomefreak: and finish compiling sometime next year
[10:36] <jonny> wich one is the backports repo?
[10:36] <Neurosis> Oh hell yeah Evilguru
[10:36] <towsonu2003> could not find in forums either
[10:36] <towsonu2003> another question: I am apt-getting the linux kernel image 686. Should I know anything before I do a reboot? I looked at wiki but nothing.
[10:36] <Gentoo_Junkie> its about how hardcore you wanna be with your linux distro.
[10:36] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, now that I can browse at least, I've found about more than 5 posts on ubuntuforums.org reporting the same problem
[10:36] <El_Che> towsonu2003: nope, pretty straight forward
[10:36] <Gentoo_Junkie> i use ubuntu and gentoo.
[10:36] <gnomefreak> jonny: how did you get into your repos list?
[10:36] <Eddie> the reason I like rhythmbox is its itunes-esque appearance
[10:36] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Also, keep asking around to see if anyone has run into this specific problem -- I had the same problem (except after only a few minutes), but it was when I had composite enabled
[10:36] <kingright> can I update for 5.04 > 5.10
[10:36] <Eddie> it doesnt work the best in the world though
[10:36] <dm> anyone know what format icon packs have to be in to install them??
[10:36] <kingright> From*
[10:36] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: do they say anything useful?
[10:36] <cevizoglu> Gentoo_Junkie, if compiling random junk is hardcore, then we live in a very, very confused world
[10:37] <jonny> synaptic--->settings----->repos
[10:37] <kent> kingright, yes you can.
[10:37] <cevizoglu> Gentoo_Junkie, maybe for people who don't know how to write software
[10:37] <budgester> gentoo is for people not hard core enough to use http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[10:37] <gnomefreak> ok jonny do you see anything that says "backports" in the repo anywhere?
[10:37] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, no. They only describe exactly what is going on with my machine, including the fact that it never happened on Hoary
[10:37] <jonny> no
[10:37] <towsonu2003> El_Che: I'm gonna fall in love with ubuntu if this works :) not compiling kernel? wow ;)
[10:37] <iiiears> towsonu - no problems here for the single processor kernel. desktop
[10:37] <Neurosis> LFS, iv made my own of that waaaay back in the day
[10:37] <civi> 20:40 <@psychopata> no, ja mam koncepcje o zlozonosci dlugosc*szerokosc; powinna sie sprawdzic
[10:37] <kingright> ok what can i find info for it?
[10:37] <ncp> i used gcc-3.4 to install kernel, an also have gcc4.0 now, but when i remove gcc4.0 gcc gets removede to, an need 3.4 to install nvidia driver otherwise it fails when i try with gcc4.0 :( is there an way to go around this problem?
[10:37] <civi> ops, sorry :D
[10:37] <civi> pasted by accident
[10:38] <cevizoglu> Gentoo_Junkie, I prefer to use my cpu cycles compiling my **own** software, not other people's
[10:38] <Gentoo_Junkie> cevizoglu: your right gentoo isn't for everyone.
[10:38] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: hmmm
[10:38] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, there are people reporting this problem using Radeon 7500 insted NVIDIA
[10:38] <jonny> gnomefreak: no
[10:38] <gnomefreak> jonny close synaptic out and give me 2 seconds
[10:38] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: OK scratch that video idea
[10:38] <felyph> ola?
[10:38] <jonny> ok
[10:38] <kingright> how do i update to 5.10 from 5.04?
[10:39] <kent> kingright, bottom of this page.. http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/index.html
[10:39] <cevizoglu> !upgradetobreezy
[10:39] <ubotu> cevizoglu: What?
[10:39] <cevizoglu> oops
[10:39] <budgester> kignright: you mean downgrade ?
[10:39] <kingright> ty kent
[10:39] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: I have no idea, then -- when i had a similar problem, it was related to video ...
[10:39] <cevizoglu> !upgrade2breezy
[10:39] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:39] <gnomefreak> jonny: paste this command into a terminal    sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:40] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, wow... now I found more than 10 posts reporting the same problem. All of them had no good solution.
[10:40] <felyph> hello?
[10:40] <felyph> hello?
[10:40] <farruinn> do you have something to say?
[10:40] <budgester> felyph: goodbye ?
[10:40] <gnomefreak> jonny: after you run that command another screen should open
[10:40] <thirso> which program u guys use to burn cds?
[10:40] <felyph> ok
[10:40] <budgester> k3b for burning
[10:40] <Neurosis> Any Ubuntu users in Canada?
[10:41] <_jason> is there a way to change the way gnome resizes windows?  For example in XP you can make it just show you the outline of the window as you drag and ignore the content.  Default behavior seems to be laggy for me on gnome.
[10:41] <kent> kingright, sorry. That page was wrong.  read the line from ubotu above.
[10:41] <gnomefreak> jonny: paste everything thats in that screen that opened into pastebin
[10:41] <budgester> Neurosis: probably, but are you asking if there are any in here ?
[10:41] <Neurosis> Yeah
[10:41] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: No idea, then... sorry :( I guess keep asking around
[10:41] <towsonu2003> hmm, any from Turkey?
[10:41] <iiiears> thirso - right click will burn most CDs else gnomebaker or with KDE libs (large dowbnload) K3B are the utils
[10:41] <jonny> ok, and btw, when I open synaptic ,this comes up every single time http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3666
[10:41] <jonny> and let me do wat u just said
[10:42] <sw> same question as _jason here :)
[10:42] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I've been doing this for the last days. I will really to uninstall Ubuntu and unrecommend it to my friends
[10:42] <jonny> how can you copy commands in here, gnomefreak ?
[10:42] <kingright> ok ty kent
[10:42] <Eddie> how do i change file associations
[10:42] <iiiears> jonny - pastebin
[10:42] <iiiears> !pastebin
[10:42] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:42] <jonny> no, COPY
[10:42] <gnomefreak> jonny highlight it and press ctrl+c
[10:42] <Eddie> ie make mp3s open in beep-media-player
[10:43] <gnomefreak> assuming your using xchat
[10:43] <jonny> ok
[10:43] <iiiears> highlight then CTRL+C  ?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> iiiears, to copy
[10:43] <budgester> highlight then use middle button to paste
[10:43] <selinium> ubotu tell Eddie about mp3
[10:43] <wotnarg> iiiears: Use x paste
[10:43] <gnomefreak> budgester,  i dont have a middle button :)
[10:43] <budgester> gnomefreak: click both buttons at once
[10:44] <selinium> Eddie, you need the w32codecs :)
[10:44] <selinium> ubotu tell Eddie about w32codecs
[10:44] <Severian> gnomefreak, press both buttons at once to simulate a middle button
[10:44] <Eddie> selinium, I need to change the file associations, the files play fine, I just want the default app to be something else
[10:44] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, "You need to change "nv" to "nvidia" in the line that refers to the driver for your video card.'
[10:44] <gnomefreak> Severian, ty i didnt know that
[10:44] <budgester> or press the wheel if it acts as a middle button
[10:44] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, there are people recommending to do the opposite you told me to do to solve this in the forums ;P
[10:44] <selinium> Eddie: easy right click on the file that you want to change
[10:45] <Eddie> selinium, thanks
[10:45] <budgester> Kurt: what a dilema who do you believe ?
[10:45] <selinium> Eddie: properties
[10:45] <budgester> Us or them ?
[10:46] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Yeah, that was my original thought, but
[10:46] <jonny> gnome: here you go! http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3667
[10:46] <anygan> hello
[10:46] <KurtKraut> budgester, sorry... are you talking to me ?
[10:46] <gnomefreak> jonny ty brb
[10:46] <jonny> make that gnomefreak
[10:46] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: since you were already running the proprietary nvidia drivers, I figuredthat you should try swithcing back to see if it helped
[10:46] <Gentoo_Junkie> testing
[10:46] <selinium> Eddie: open with, then choose appropriate. if you cant find it go to /usr/bin
[10:46] <budgester> nights kids, gotta do some work
[10:46] <selinium> Eddie: does that make sense?
[10:46] <selinium> :)
[10:47] <gnomefreak> jonny the 3rd part from bottom you need to add a # infront of each of the 2 repos in there its the big part
[10:47] <KurtKraut> Ninjew,         Driver          "nvidia"
[10:47] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I should replace it by 'nv', right ?
[10:47] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: well, give it a shot
[10:47] <anygan> i would like to open a folder with the konsole but my folder is named "projet antenne" and the konsole don't nderstand composed name how can i do?
[10:47] <jonny> can you paste what it should be and ill just copy it in?
[10:47] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: COmment out any Option lines in that section, too
[10:48] <selinium> KurtKraut, What is the problem?
[10:48] <keyes> hello! Is DMA actived by default with Breezy?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> jonny: this repo just add a # infront of it and the one under it so it looks like this  # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:48] <selinium> Hi Seveas, i am just installing  pbuilder!   :)
[10:48] <gnomefreak> same with one just below it
[10:48] <jonny> i still do not understand, I know im dumb
[10:48] <selinium> keyes nope
[10:48] <ainaker> hi
[10:49] <selinium> keyes, hdparm
[10:49] <ainaker> selinium: pbuilder = powerbuilder?
[10:49] <kingright> do i need the Breezy CD to upgrade?
[10:49] <keyes> ok this is just to know
[10:49] <KurtKraut> selinium, after 10 hours turned on, my Xorg processes uses 100% of CPU constantly.
[10:49] <gnomefreak> ok jonny i will paste the whole thing in pastebin just get rid of what you have in there and place what i paste ok?
[10:49] <keyes> is the bug with amd via and Intel chips with DMA corrected ?
[10:49] <KurtKraut> selinium, it never gets below 80%
[10:49] <jonny> ok, Thank You
[10:49] <NoUse> kingright no you can do it from synaptic
[10:50] <NoUse> !tell kingright about upgrade2breezy
[10:50] <KurtKraut> selinium, more than 10 people are reporting this with different video cards in ubuntuforums but no one got a solution
[10:50] <richie> HELP! I installed firestarter and it screwed my WIRELESS connection. Im chatting to you on my WIRED 100Mbit LAN connection now. I uninstalled firestarter and this has not fixed my connection. How to I get it back as it was?
[10:50] <kingright> so just put in  Distribution: breezy
[10:50] <kingright> and thats it
[10:50] <jonny> kingright https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:50] <selinium> KurtKraut, wow! Has it been reported as a bug?
[10:50] <KurtKraut> selinium, I didn't check it in bugzilla... I will do it
[10:50] <richie> Can anyone help me?
[10:51] <ompaul> richie, use pastebin and put the output of what I request there >> sudo iptables -L <<
[10:51] <selinium> richie: give people a chance! :)
[10:51] <thirso> do i need any extra packages for Rythym to play shoutcast radios?
[10:51] <thirso> nvm
[10:51] <jenda> Speaking of bugs: We all need to fix Bug #1!!!
[10:51] <selinium> hi ompaul :)
[10:52] <ompaul> evening selinium
[10:52] <selinium> jenda indeed!
[10:52] <richie> I disabled the wireless lan so i can talk to u now...
[10:52] <gnomefreak> jonny: here is the revised sources list http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3668   after changing it to this click save than close that window and type sudo apt-get update in terminal
[10:52] <ompaul> jenda, well I work on it every day
[10:52] <jenda> I'm working on it right now... basically all of today
[10:52] <dropper> hi
[10:52] <towsonu2003> jenda: now that's _hard_ ...
[10:52] <dm> Does ANYONE know what a VALID icon theme pack is , so i can install this damn thing !!
[10:52] <selinium> Hi nalioth :)
[10:52] <nalioth> howdy folks
[10:52] <jonny> ok, hold on
[10:52] <kingright> so where ever it has hoary put in breezy even in the URLs right?
[10:53] <thirso> is it worth it for me tu use the K7 kernel? My proc is a Athlon XP
[10:53] <thirso> to*
[10:53] <dropper> how to upgrade hoary to breezy??
[10:53] <Profeta> hey, when I open my firefox on windows, the fonts seems differents, is there a packet on ubuntu to isntall that fonts ?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> jonny: ok let me know of any errors if you get any
[10:53] <psycose> hi, i don't see my boot Grub menu (7 items) on booting, the hiddenmenu is not set,  when i hit ESC nothing appens, any tips (Ubuntu Breezy/i386) ? thanks
[10:53] <jonny> NO ERRORS!
[10:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dropper about breezy
[10:53] <ompaul> richie, I asked you a quesion, I am not worried about how you are connected - if firestarter has anything to do with it that command will tell me, if it does not well so be it :-0
[10:53] <jonny> yes! yes!
[10:53] <ompaul> :-) even
[10:53] <gnomefreak> lol jonny
[10:53] <selinium> psycose: one mo..
[10:53] <spudse> hello
[10:54] <spudse> I just installed x-server and fluxbox on a Ubuntu server installation, but when I "startx" I only see a black screen with nothing running
[10:54] <dropper> nalioth,  : Thanx
[10:54] <dm> Does ANYONE know what a VALID icon theme pack is , so i can install this damn thing !!
[10:54] <gnomefreak> btw jonny my sources list is on my site www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc on the linux tab if you ever need to check on it
[10:54] <richie> heres output of iptables -L http://pastebin.com/407082
[10:54] <richie> k?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> !tell gnomefreak about breezy
[10:55] <dropper> also I'm looking for whats the prefered programming language for ubuntu.. and what IDEs exist??
[10:55] <unforcer> I was just installing dcpp I did apt-get upgrade etc xserver wont start up enymore
[10:55] <jonny> thx
[10:55] <ddajs> hi..... everyone...i have just a question, what is the best msn client?
[10:55] <cowbud> @find dream
[10:55] <farruinn> gnomefreak: you can /msg ubotu
[10:55] <unforcer> ddajs aMSN
[10:55] <gnomefreak> ty farruinn  it just told me that
[10:55] <ddajs> thx
[10:55] <farruinn> :D
[10:55] <gnomefreak> yw jonny
[10:55] <elephanthunter> dropper: STE, Anjuta, Bluefish Editor...
[10:56] <kingright> so i need to change all hoary to  breezy in the SPM?
[10:56] <jenda> Can someone point me to a good New Mail sound? :) Very important
[10:56] <unforcer> ddajs install the cvs
[10:56] <richie> ompaul u there?
[10:56] <ddajs> ok
[10:56] <ompaul> richie, yes
[10:56] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : Thanx
[10:56] <elephanthunter> dropper: ... monodevelop, Glade, Screem
[10:56] <jenda> Anyone?
[10:56] <dropper> nalioth,  : that links not working
[10:56] <huffers> hi, can anyone here play dvds in ubuntu?
[10:56] <unforcer> ddajs ubuntuforum has guide for it use that it event supports webcam's
[10:56] <elephanthunter> those are the ones I have installed
[10:57] <richie> ompaul: see anything wrong with my paste? http://pastebin.com/407082
[10:57] <jenda> huffers: sure
[10:57] <bluefrog-10> huffers, install gxine
[10:57] <huffers> I've tried ogle and mplayer
[10:57] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : is monodevelop in the repositories??
[10:57] <selinium> psycose: pm?
[10:57] <ddajs> thx, enforcer
[10:57] <ddajs> *unforcer sry
[10:57] <huffers> thx bluefrog - I'll give it a try now...
[10:58] <elephanthunter> dropper: I believe so
[10:58] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : whats the bluefish for ?
[10:58] <ompaul> richie, there is nothing stopping that machine left over from Firestarter, there is no firewall in place, I suggest you go through the steps you first undertook to get your card working
[10:58] <dropper> nalioth,  : sorry It is working
[10:58] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : do u use it?
[10:58] <andrei__> Tere
[10:58] <elephanthunter> dropper: Web development
[10:58] <jenda> huffers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:58] <selinium> psycose, hello?
[10:58] <andrei__> On siin eestlasi_
[10:58] <elephanthunter> dropper: yeah, I use it
[10:58] <psycose> selinium yes
[10:58] <jenda> huffers: It's all there
[10:59] <selinium> psycose, pm?
[10:59] <dropper> ah! do you know if php 5 is available on ubuntu
[10:59] <selinium> dropper yep
[10:59] <elephanthunter> yes
[10:59] <richie> ompaul: I installed ubuntu, enabled it and it worked?
[10:59] <psycose> selinium, sorry i don't udestand
[10:59] <jenda> I actually didn't mean that as a joke: I need a good new mail sound!
[10:59] <selinium> psycose private message :)
[10:59] <psycose> ok ;-)
[10:59] <selinium> psycose is it ok if I private message you
[10:59] <psycose> selinium, yes
[10:59] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : hows it compare to the likes of sharpdevelop ? or even VS 2003.. do u know if its on framework 2.0?
[11:00] <elephanthunter> dropper: Are you talking about monodevelop?
[11:00] <Eddie> im having trouble with my windows drive
[11:00] <ompaul> richie, well I don'tknow what you did to break it however try this: System Administration Networking and see if you can enable it there
[11:00] <Eddie> i cant view it as a normal user
[11:00] <towsonu2003> I swear I won't ask again :)  : slmodem only working with ubuntu, anyone has any ideas why? Also, anyone from Turkey?
[11:00] <Eddie> ive added the "user" option to fstab
[11:00] <Eddie> and unmounted and remounted the partition
[11:00] <ompaul> !tell Eddie about ntfs
[11:00] <Eddie> its a fat partition
[11:00] <richie> ompaul: I did enable connection sharing when I installed it
[11:00] <Eddie> deliberately so, as to allow me to share files between windows and linux
[11:00] <richie> ompaul: can this break it?
[11:01] <jackmacokc> can someone tell me how to restart GDM
[11:01] <Eddie> I just need users to have RW access to it
[11:01] <ompaul> richie, my knowledge of wireless is very limited, I asked you to try something which I believe may help you, have you tried that?
[11:01] <Eddie> despite having rw and user in my fstab for that partition
[11:01] <elephanthunter> dropper: The best way atm to use monodevelop is with Glade.
[11:01] <Eddie> I still cant access it
[11:01] <jenda> Come on folks... I need a cool sound for New Mail... I'm desperate can't you see ? Boo hoo
[11:02] <dropper> elephanthunter,
[11:02] <dropper> elephanthunter,  yes
[11:02] <elephanthunter> dropper: It has no native wysiwyg interface
[11:02] <Eddie> Jedrick, search google for gotmail.wav
[11:02] <Eddie> Jedrick, its my favourite, been using it for years
[11:02] <dropper> ok ! so how do I check what version I'm on
[11:02] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : doh!
[11:02] <Severian> Eddie, can you post your entire fstab file in pastebin and give me the url?
[11:02] <haselden> i got mail yaaay
[11:02] <Eddie> ok
[11:02] <jonny> how can I get rid of KDE?
[11:03] <jenda> jonny: sudo rm -rf
[11:03] <Razor-X> anyone here now who uses nbsmtp?
[11:03] <jonny> ok
[11:03] <Razor-X> jenda: don't even joke about that
[11:03] <jenda> jonny: DO NOT DO THAT! JUST KIDDING
[11:03] <Razor-X> jonny: NO
[11:03] <richie> ompaul: thats how I get my internet to break...
[11:03] <nalioth> jenda: not a nice joke
[11:03] <Razor-X> jonny: do NOT type that IN
[11:03] <jenda> Sorry, just realised that it's not a good joke...
[11:03] <trans_err> I'm having a problem while playing quake 4-- the sound is distorted and I get the following error in the console-- I've noticed this error before any ideas? :snd_pcm_writei short write: 940 out of 1024
[11:03] <trans_err> 
[11:03] <Eddie> http://pastebin.ca/26784
[11:03] <jenda> jonny? Still alive?
[11:03] <grant_> can anyone please offer me some help updating the kernel????
[11:03] <towsonu2003> jonny: dont do that
[11:04] <Razor-X> we have a quake 4?
[11:04] <jonny> what does that do?
[11:04] <nalioth> Razor-X: it released last week
[11:04] <jenda> jonny: oof
[11:04] <trans_err> grant_: whats the problem?
[11:04] <Razor-X> jonny: it erases everything off your root partition
[11:04] <Razor-X> nalioth: ahhh
[11:04] <jenda> jonny: that deletes everything
[11:04] <jonny> AH!
[11:04] <ompaul> jonny kills all files on the file system
[11:04] <jonny> luckily I mispelled it
[11:04] <Eddie> how bizarre, it thinks its ntfs....
[11:04] <jenda> jonny: It does remove KDE...
[11:04] <grant_> Have installed the 64 bit edition of Ubuntu and have downloaded the latest kernal from Ubuntu HQ
[11:04] <jonny> lol
[11:04] <towsonu2003> jonny: oh he's alive :) good
[11:04] <grant_> but how do I install it
[11:04] <Eddie> well for now at least, can i at least read it
[11:05] <Eddie> ill convert it to fat32 later
[11:05] <Razor-X> jonny: how did you install KDE, or do you use Kubuntu?
[11:05] <Mabus> *poke* Severian?
[11:05] <trans_err> grant_: dpkg -i <package>
[11:05] <ompaul> Jenda, don't go there, not funny in the slightest
[11:05] <nalioth> grant_: if you've used adept, it should install itself
[11:05] <richie> jonny use synaptic
[11:05] <richie> to remove kde
[11:05] <jonny> i installed kubuntu desktop
[11:05] <jonny> i dont like it
[11:05] <grant_> adept????
[11:05] <ompaul> richie, did you go and work with that?
[11:05] <Razor-X> jonny: then simply, ``sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop''
[11:05] <iiiears> Hi nalioth!
[11:05] <richie> installt he gnome packages
[11:05] <nalioth> grant_: you are a kubuntu user, yes?
[11:05] <trans_err> no one has any idea about my sound problem?
[11:05] <nalioth> iiiears: howdy
[11:05] <richie> the*
[11:05] <jonny> ok
[11:05] <Severian> Mabus, howdy.  Sorry Islept through my alarm clock.  What was that other channel we were on?
[11:05] <grant_> ubuntu
[11:05] <jenda> ompaul: Yes yes... I know. I now realise how easy it is to abuse that.
[11:06] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : what type of development do u do ?
[11:06] <towsonu2003> does he have ubuntu-desktop? (jonny)
[11:06] <Eddie> ideally there are two things id like to be able to do by an hours time
[11:06] <nalioth> grant_: sorry, misread some text. if you've used synaptic, it should install itself
[11:06] <Eddie> 1) get fetchmail running
[11:06] <richie> ompaul: what? the wireless still breaks internet when turned on
[11:06] <Mabus> kubuntu-offtopic
[11:06] <Eddie> and 2) watch the x files eps on my windows partition
[11:06] <iiiears> nalioth - i need "radio" in /dev/radio    how is that added?
[11:06] <Eddie> but its been so long
[11:06] <nalioth> iiiears: add it?
[11:06] <Mabus> And Sev don't worry about it, I just woke up too.
[11:06] <Eddie> since ive used linux all my "knowledge" is out of date
[11:06] <Eddie> fetchmailrc has an entirely new syntax
[11:06] <Razor-X> nalioth: you have any idea why nbsmtp works with a mail message saved from mutt, but not from mutt directly?
[11:06] <jenda> Mabus: I'm just going to bed...
[11:06] <nalioth> iiiears: i have no idea, never heard of 'radio' in a linux /dev/
[11:07] <iiiears> nalioth - what are the files listed in /dev called
[11:07] <Eddie> ham radio?
[11:07] <trans_err> iiiears: the appropriate drivers will create the device
[11:07] <nalioth> Razor-X: they dont speak on the same frequency
[11:07] <Razor-X> nalioth: well, I assumed that
[11:07] <Mabus> hi, nalioth
[11:07] <jenda> ompaul: One thing's for sure. I'll never type that publically again.
[11:07] <nalioth> iiiears: i have no clue
[11:07] <jonny> towsonu2003: I installed ubuntu breezy, then KDE, but KDE is autamaticly setting itself as default
[11:07] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, here is my post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=445668&posted=1#post445668
[11:07] <Razor-X> nalioth: but, i'm using the same set ``sendmail="'' string as i'm using to send the normal mail
[11:07] <Razor-X> in my .muttrc
[11:07] <Razor-X> errr
[11:08] <penguinone> hello...
[11:08] <Razor-X> ``set sendmail="''
[11:08] <iiiears> trans_err - thank you :)
[11:08] <Razor-X> penguinone: hey
[11:08] <nalioth> Razor-X: mutts direct output is not to nbsmtp's taste
[11:08] <jonny> cyphase ?
[11:08] <towsonu2003> jenda: you're dangerous :)
[11:08] <pro> anyone know how i can change /etc/sudoers to allow www-data to run /usr/local/bin/mysh with out it asking for a password?
[11:08] <spudse> when I have installed ubuntu server, then x, and then fluxbox. How do I start X with running Fluxbox ?
[11:08] <iiiears> nalioth - thank you. :)
[11:08] <penguinone> i have found a bug..
[11:08] <Razor-X> nalioth: i've seen many people use it with mutt :(, I guess i'm going to have to do some more googling
[11:08] <Severian> jonny, usually, you just logoff.  On the login screen there should be a button called sessions or something similar.  It will let you switch back to gnome.
[11:08] <huffers> ogle, mplayer, and gzine don't play dvds for me :-/
[11:08] <jonny> there is
[11:08] <pro> spudse, echo fluxbox > ~/.xinitrc
[11:08] <huffers> I've looked at loads of forums
[11:09] <jonny> when i do that...
[11:09] <kingright> what is up with thisW: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fHoary%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:09] <kingright> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fHoary%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_hoary_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:09] <kingright> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:09] <huffers> gxine I mean
[11:09] <penguinone> how to send a bug to ubuntu'
[11:09] <jonny> ...it does not ask me if i would like to make that default
[11:09] <towsonu2003> jonny: there is an option to choose  a session type (gnome or else) when logging in to gnome. I'm not sure whether it is also in kde's logging screen (where it asks your pass)
[11:09] <jonny> and it isnt
[11:09] <nalioth> spudse: you need a window manager. install xdm, or gdm or kdm
[11:09] <Mabus> Severian: #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:09] <nalioth> kingright: please dont paste in here
[11:10] <jonny> so i want gnome to be my default
[11:10] <kingright> ok
[11:10] <Razor-X> jonny: if you're using gdm or kdm, you can select the session
[11:10] <African_Assassin> I have 1 small question - what would be the partitioning setup for an ubuntu only setup with single 200gig drive
[11:10] <jonny> where
[11:10] <penguinone> lib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[11:10] <penguinone> Xlib: No protocol specified
[11:10] <penguinone> Traceback (most recent call last):
[11:10] <penguinone>   File "/usr/bin/bluepin", line 39, in ?
[11:10] <penguinone>     import gtk
[11:10] <penguinone>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 37, in ?    from _gtk import *
[11:10] <Razor-X> kingright: you want to use pastebin or #flood for pasting, preferably pastebin
[11:10] <jonny> and what are they
[11:10] <penguinone> RuntimeError: could not open display
[11:10] <jonny> penguinone: do not paste in here
[11:10] <nalioth> NO PASTING! it's written on the sign that meets every one of you when you arrive!
[11:11] <Hendric> OMG.. a helpchan noob
[11:11] <jonny> uncofertable silence
[11:11] <Razor-X> I never knew that
[11:11] <kbrooks> me?
[11:11] <kingright> ok what does this mean http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3670
[11:11] <Razor-X> I just knew the pastebin rule since I came here :P
[11:11] <African_Assassin> yep - thats me
[11:12] <Razor-X> nalioth: any word on my whole op thing?
[11:12] <pro> kingright, put the 2nd disk in
[11:12] <jonny> Razor-x: how can I set GNOME back to my default
[11:12] <jonny> ?
[11:12] <rexykik> anyone know much about doing thin client booting on ltsp? When I boot a terminal I seem to get to xdm on the terminal, but when I logon my x server just restarts, which makes me believe that it is a local X session rather than booting from the X-server of the ltsp server.
[11:12] <Eddie> ok I just took a look around
[11:12] <Hendric> pastebin is not understandable :p
[11:12] <Eddie> root can read the drive perfectly
[11:12] <nalioth> Razor-X: whole op or op whole?
[11:12] <kingright> i only have one disk
[11:12] <Eddie> so its mounted correctly
[11:12] <Razor-X> jonny: are you using gdm? (did you have gnome installed first?)
[11:12] <Eddie> my problem is a permissions problem
[11:12] <nalioth> Razor-X: whichever it is, join -nun for discussion
[11:12] <jenda> towsonu2003: thanx :)
[11:12] <Eddie> I need it to be readable by the user eddie
[11:12] <Razor-X> nalioth: oh yes, thanks
[11:12] <kingright> same fhing
[11:12] <kingright> thing*
[11:12] <jonny> razor-x: yes
[11:13] <jenda> http://ivlad.unixgods.net/lj/linuxisevil.gif
[11:13] <Razor-X> jonny: then you should be able to look through a list of ``sessions''
[11:13] <jenda> Check that out
[11:13] <kingright> il just get thr iso for 5.10
[11:13] <jenda> Get the FUD
[11:13] <psycose> nobody has invisible grub menu problem on boot ? (U breezy/i386)
[11:13] <ompaul> Hendric, yes it is, "Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting"
[11:13] <jenda> errr... FACTS!
[11:14] <spudse> when I have installed ubuntu server, then x, and then fluxbox. How do I start X with running Fluxbox ?
[11:14] <ompaul> jenda, again not helpful
[11:14] <nalioth> jenda: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:14] <jenda> sorry
[11:14] <jonny> ok, IM in the sessions
[11:14] <jonny> now what
[11:14] <Hendric> ompaul: i was kidding lol
[11:14] <ompaul> jenda, go to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:14] <nalioth> spudse: install gdm, and there you can choose sessions
[11:14] <nalioth> spudse: if you scroll up, jonny is having a similar problem worked out
[11:14] <Razor-X> jonny: pick Gnome
[11:15] <kingright> what is a fast server to D/L it offf of?
[11:15] <Razor-X> jonny: if you don't see Gnome there, just tell me the list of choices
[11:15] <wicked_> #ubuntu-es
[11:15] <jonny> just default razot-x
[11:15] <cognosco> I need to pass a parameter to a kernel module whenever it is loaded, how do I do this on Ubuntu (i.e. what file to I need to edit/create)
[11:15] <jonny> make that razor-x
[11:16] <Razor-X> hmmmmm....
[11:16] <gpd> cognosco: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst iirc
[11:16] <Razor-X> jonny: do you have Gnome installed?
[11:16] <GregAsche> is the firefox version that ships with breezy unstable as hell for anyone else?
[11:16] <jonny> yes
[11:16] <haselden> GregAsche: yes
[11:16] <jonny> it came with that
[11:16] <ompaul> kingright, put ie. in front of archive if you want, they have ehh buckets of bandwidth
[11:16] <GregAsche> thought I was the only one
[11:16] <GregAsche> is there an update in the repos yet?
[11:16] <jonny> thats what im using
[11:16] <haselden> i've seen quite a bit of people putting issues onto the forums
[11:16] <mpmc> Whats a good GUI for FTP?
[11:17] <Razor-X> jonny: type in ``ls -a /usr/share/xsessions'' and show me the result in pastebin
[11:17] <elephanthunter> dropper: sorry, was doing laundry :D
[11:17] <haselden> GregAsche: i've had resonable success with this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:17] <jonny> ok, hold on
[11:17] <gpd> mpmc: gftp is good... does ssh / sftp too
[11:17] <nalioth> mpmc: try gftp
[11:17] <zpierreski> Hi, does anyone know the best way to rip DVDs to xvid?
[11:17] <nalioth> zpierreski: dvdrip
[11:17] <cognosco> gpd: isn't there an equivalent to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 etc...
[11:17] <elephanthunter> dropper: I do mostly php mysql web development at work
[11:17] <gpd> cognosco: you said kernel parameters not modules ???
[11:18] <zpierreski> nalioth: does dvdrip compress the DVD as well into xvid?
[11:18] <kingright> now what ompaul
[11:18] <nalioth> zpierreski: /msg ubotu info dvdrip
[11:18] <cognosco> gpd: I said module
[11:18] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : I'm looking for a php mentor you up for it? what distro u use?
[11:18] <elephanthunter> dropper: Ubuntu Breezy
[11:18] <elephanthunter> dropper: Sure
[11:19] <dropper> and u got php5 on there
[11:19] <kingright> i found a germany FTP one it will take 2 and a hafe hour
[11:19] <gsnedders> hi
[11:19] <kingright> but what do u mean by ie. ompaul ?
[11:19] <elephanthunter> dropper: yes
[11:19] <jonny> razor-x here you go! http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3671
[11:19] <dropper> elephanthunter,  :   php OO but is compiled like in c#?
[11:20] <jenda> kingright: ie = that is
[11:20] <selinium> dropper elephanthunter: if you are going totalk about installing php on ubuntu fine, if you want to talk php, private message it.
[11:20] <cognosco> gpd: I think /etc/modprobe.d/ is what I'm looking for
[11:20] <grant_> Can anyone tell me how to run this file - patch-2.6.14-rc5-git6
[11:20] <selinium> dropper elephanthunter: :)
[11:20] <elephanthunter> selinium: I'm trying lol
[11:20] <Razor-X> jonny: thanks
[11:20] <jonny> yup
[11:20] <P8ntKid> Is ubuntu Debian based?
[11:20] <selinium> elephanthunter, /query dropper
[11:21] <dropper> ooohh .. sorryr.. if elephanthunter  : don
[11:21] <kingright> but i still dont know what ompaul meant
[11:21] <Razor-X> P8ntKid: yeah, it is
[11:21] <haselden> P8ntKid yes
[11:21] <dropper> if elephanthunter dont mind the pm
[11:21] <gsnedders> is it possible to take a screenshot from the cli?
[11:21] <Razor-X> jonny: I may ignore what you say for a while, because my browser is in another ratpoison window
[11:21] <Razor-X> gsnedders: ``import -window root foo.png''
[11:21] <nalioth> P8ntKid: yes it is, what program are you wanting today? ;)
[11:21] <iiiears> p8n -yes  follow ubotu's link
[11:21] <Razor-X> gsnedders: or ``xwd -root | convert - foo.png''
[11:21] <dropper> selinium,  : whats the query for ?
[11:21] <iiiears> !ubuntu
[11:21] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[11:22] <jonny> k
[11:22] <iiiears> !awards
[11:22] <ubotu> [awards]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[11:22] <gsnedders> thanks :)
[11:22] <Razor-X> gsnedders: I screenshot a lot :P, I even have my own script for automatic screenshot naming :P
[11:22] <ompaul> kingright, the archives you want all have the word archive in them, put ie. in front of the word archive in the file using the command >sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list< in a terminal - find a terminal by applications - accessories - terminal
[11:22] <selinium> dropper if you type /query <nick> it creates a private message tab for you two to talk in ?
[11:22] <jonny> is ur browser still screwing up?
[11:23] <iiiears> ubuntu was also included in PC Maazines top fifty best products of the year.
[11:23] <Razor-X> jonny: it's not screwing up, it just takes up the whole screen, basically
[11:23] <nalioth> selinium: only if the user is registered and ID'd
[11:23] <dropper> selinium, thanx
[11:23] <jonny> ok
[11:23] <kingright> im slow today i still dont get it?
[11:23] <sorrytoanoiy> hi all
[11:23] <PlanarPlatypus> Does anyone know if there is a sensible way to install eclipse plugins if one has installed eclipse using synaptic?
[11:23] <selinium> nalioth, you have to be to gain access to ubutu , dont you?
[11:24] <elephanthunter> nalioth: how does one register and ID?
[11:24] <sorrytoanoiy> um I have 10mins before work to format and partiion a hardrive
[11:24] <nalioth> to register your nickname, type /msg nickserv help register
[11:24] <sorrytoanoiy> could some on give me the comands
[11:24] <nalioth> sorrytoanoiy: use gparted
[11:24] <sorrytoanoiy> I want to put 1 partion on hdb
[11:25] <sorrytoanoiy> and format it in ext
[11:25] <PlanarPlatypus> or should I just abandon the idea of using the eclipse package and use the one from eclipse.org?
[11:25] <dropper> elephanthunter, Is that pm window thinggy working>?
[11:25] <nalioth> dropper: you cannot send /pm to folks. you are not registerd. see above
[11:25] <marek_> wine: could not exec wineserver
[11:25] <marek_> what i should do?
[11:25] <marek_> help
[11:25] <elephanthunter> dropper: I'm going to try and register so we can PM
[11:25] <sorrytoanoiy> nalioth: what would be the comand to but one partions on the whole hdb hardrive?
[11:26] <dropper> oh! how do I register?
[11:26] <jenda> sorrytoanoiy: suda apt-get install gparted
[11:26] <dropper> nalioth,  : where above exactly
[11:26] <jenda> sorrytoanoiy: that is a very easy to use program
[11:26] <nalioth> sorrytoanoiy: use gparted, it's point-n-clicky quick
[11:26] <nalioth> to register your nickname, type /msg nickserv help register
[11:26] <grant_> Can anyone pls pls tell me how to run this file under Ubuntu (patch-2.6.14-rc5-git6)
[11:26] <Eddie> will divx files play with as good a quality in ubuntu as on windows?
[11:26] <jenda> grant_: what filetype?
[11:27] <njan> grant_, what is "this file", and where did you get it from?
[11:27] <Eddie> ive been told linux plays divx quite poorly due to old codec usage
[11:27] <_jason> does anyone know of a way other than "reduced resources" to make metacity use wireframe resizing?
[11:27] <towsonu2003> grant_: isn't that a kernel patch?
[11:27] <dropper> REGISTER mypassword
[11:27] <grant_> I got this file from Ubuntu Head quarters as the latest Kernel patch
[11:27] <sorrytoanoiy> i just wanted the common linux comnad line that works over all linux
[11:27] <nalioth> Eddie: depends on the quality of the divx
[11:27] <marek_> i have problem with wine, wine: could not exec wineserver
[11:28] <nalioth> dropper: /msg nickserv register <PASSWORD>
[11:28] <marek_> and don't start
[11:28] <Eddie> nalioth, so not always/
[11:28] <Eddie> ?
[11:28] <elephanthunter> oh
[11:28] <nalioth> Eddie: if you have a shite divx, it's gonna be shite on all platforms
[11:28] <sorrytoanoiy> nalioth would the comon cmdline opiton be fdisk for the partioning?
[11:28] <grant_> Anyone else know how to undate the kernel??????
[11:28] <elephanthunter> /msg nickserv register beaniebaby
[11:28] <nalioth> sorrytoanoiy: use cfdisk
[11:29] <grant_> update i mean
[11:29] <william> hey guys what do I do about playing movies / getting codecs while being in Ubuntu?
[11:29] <Eddie> right well my x files episodes are now playing satisfactorily
[11:29] <NoUse> !tell william about w32codecs
[11:29] <selinium> elephanthunter, without the space
[11:29] <Eddie> all I need to do now is configure fetchmail
[11:29] <sorrytoanoiy> nalioth: ok cool um
[11:29] <haselden> !tell haselden about w32codecs
[11:29] <Eddie> does anyone here have any experience with fetchmail on ubuntu
[11:29] <nalioth> selinium: elephanthunter is exampling
[11:29] <selinium> nal
[11:29] <towsonu2003> grant_: sorry, I always use synaptic even to update kernel...
[11:29] <Razor-X> jonny: back, sorry, my mom called me down for some errands
[11:29] <selinium> nalioth, Doh! sorry elephanthunter :)
[11:30] <kingright> william do sudoapt-get install w32codecs
[11:30] <elephanthunter> selinium: np :D
[11:30] <sorrytoanoiy> could  you give me example say im useing hdb and i want to put one partion on the whole thing
[11:30] <doubletwist> I installed linux-source-2.6.12 but can't seem to find the forcedeth driver in there anywhere. Where is it?
[11:30] <kingright> william do sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[11:30] <jenda> grant_: Don't update the kernel. It's not needed.
[11:30] <VooDoo> kingright: that wont work if your using breezy
[11:30] <nalioth> kingright: w32codecs are not in the repos due to legal reasons
[11:30] <selinium> kingright, w32codecs are not in the repos anymore...
[11:30] <kingright> oh ok
[11:30] <VooDoo> i have them as a deb package however :)
[11:31] <selinium> ubotu tell william about w32codecs
[11:31] <Razor-X> I compiled allmy codecs in meself
[11:31] <william> thank you
[11:31] <selinium> william, the  sudo dpkg -i /path/to/w32codecs.deb
[11:31] <elephanthunter> finally got it working selinium nalioth, :thanks
[11:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kingright about w32codecs
[11:31] <VooDoo> if any one one wants the w32 codecs for ubuntu that work in breezy then let me know!
[11:31] <selinium> elephanthunter, np
[11:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell VooDoo about w32codecs
[11:31] <IG0R> how can i choose xmms as the defult mp3 player?
[11:31] <doubletwist> how do I tell the source to compile forcedeth??
[11:32] <nalioth> VooDoo: thank you. we have them, too
[11:32] <spudse> hello can somebody help me with installing fluxbox on ubuntu ?
[11:32] <nalioth> doubletwist: say again?
[11:32] <Eddie> ubotu tell me about w32codecs
[11:32] <william> do I have to do the same thing for Breezy for the respositories
[11:32] <william> ?
[11:32] <nalioth> spudse: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[11:32] <VooDoo> sorry lol :) DOH! didnt think
[11:32] <selinium> william, ?
[11:32] <doubletwist> the forcedeth driver [for nforce ethernet] . It's in the source tree, but there's no config for it.
[11:32] <towsonu2003> ubotu: tell towsonu2003 about ubuntu
[11:32] <sorrytoanoiy> nalioth:  could you give me an expamle for partion hdb with cfdisk with ext?
[11:32] <spudse> nalioth, I first installed x-server, then fluxbox, but I get nothing but a black screen when I run "startx"
[11:32] <jonny> razor-x how old r u?
[11:32] <nalioth> sorrytoanoiy: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[11:32] <william> earlier today when I had 5.04 I was told to add repositories do I have to do that with 5.10
[11:33] <nalioth> spudse: again, i say install 'gdm'
[11:33] <kingright> no what program will be the ez on to brun a ISO file?
[11:33] <Eddie> the official channels on freenode really do take the word "pedantic" to its limits
[11:33] <spudse> nalioth, I did that, still black screen
[11:33] <sorrytoanoiy> nalioth: ok thanks for all that  :)
[11:33] <VooDoo> william: there all in the sources.list file you may have to uncomment a couple of lines
[11:33] <Razor-X> jonny: if you could, can you put the results of ``cat /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop'' and ``cat /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop''
[11:33] <Razor-X> jonny: 15
[11:33] <selinium> william, the repos you added are the breezy repos. if you want a clean repo list use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[11:33] <jonny> r u gonna be on 2nit
[11:33] <marek_> pls help me: i'm having problem with wine; i can't start wine
[11:33] <jenda> william: do that for universe and multiverse, not backports
[11:33] <marek_> wine: could not exec wineserver
[11:34] <nalioth> spudse: do you have a large hard disk?
[11:34] <william> no no it was 5.04
[11:34] <william> but ok
[11:34] <spudse> nalioth: I got 10gb
[11:34] <jonny> i gtg to my soccer game
[11:34] <Razor-X> jonny: depends on the time, I'm on at 12 AM PDT for sure, though
[11:34] <ecletrik> How can I play music on a "MP3 DVD"?
[11:34] <selinium> ubotu tell marek_ about wine
[11:34] <william> are there instructions to w32?
[11:34] <william> w32codecs
[11:34] <jonny> well ill get on after my game and c if ur on, wish me luck
[11:35] <thirso> http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[11:35] <selinium> william, sudo dpkg -i w32codecs
[11:35] <VooDoo> william: just download them and run dpkg -i /path.to/w32codecs.file
[11:35] <doubletwist> Nevermind I found it... grrr
[11:35] <Nikopol> jonny, gl
[11:35] <Zeep> william, Mom, I'll search them for you
[11:35] <Zeep> william, Hang on a sec ;-)
[11:35] <Zeep> selinium, There is also a special repository available
[11:35] <Razor-X> jonny: good luck
[11:35] <nalioth> spudse: i'm a dummy when it comes to this, but if you install ubuntu-desktop, and flux, you can have flux as your default session (and have wonderful gnome programs)
[11:35] <Razor-X> Nikopol: OpenGL?
[11:36] <selinium> Zeep,  i don't want to muddy the water, If you start adding repos and you dont konw what you are doing you can break your ubuntu
[11:36] <Nikopol> Razor-X, no gl = goodluck :)
[11:36] <kingright> now what program will be the ez one to use to burn a ISO file?
[11:36] <jonny> thx bye
[11:36] <selinium> ubotu tell william about w32codecs
[11:36] <VooDoo> kingright: gnome baker or k3b
[11:36] <signius> cdrecord
[11:36] <spudse> nalioth, will not I loose efficiency with all the gnome library's ? I want speedy system :)
[11:36] <El_Che> kingright: k3B
[11:36] <william> I already downloaded it
[11:36] <william> :)
[11:36] <kingright> ok ty
[11:36] <NutterUK> hello I currently have WIndows Xp and Suse installed. I want to get rid of Suse and install Ubuntu. How do I do that?
[11:37] <selinium> william, cool then sudo dpkg -i <file>
[11:37] <nalioth> spudse: if you only load flux session, there shouldnt be all that many things running from gnome
[11:37] <Zeep> william, That's it, but I see, you allready downloaded them ;-)
[11:37] <ecletrik> How can I play music on a "MP3 DVD"?
[11:37] <signius> suse is a good distro why do you want to remove it ?
[11:37] <VooDoo> william: check this out......everything you need to no for [hoary]  but will work with breezy www.ubuntuguide.org/
[11:37] <spudse> nalioth, thats nice. I think I will try that way
[11:37] <NutterUK> signius it is not working with my wireless card and ubuntu livecd did
[11:37] <Zeep> I'm pretty happy with SuSE on my laptop, too - they even have apt, so, everything is fine ;-)
[11:38] <selinium> ubotu tell VooDoo about ubuntuguide
[11:38] <selinium> ubotu tell william  about ubuntuguide
[11:38] <signius> if it works under ubuntu live it will work under suse
[11:38] <jenda> william: be careful about the ubuntuguide: it is outdated. Most things work, but not all
[11:38] <SEJeff> signius: That is not true necessarily
[11:38] <signius> NutterUK what wireless card is it ?
[11:38] <selinium> VooDoo, Don't recommend ubuntuguide
[11:38] <NutterUK> signius ubuntu livecd did it straight away without any config. Ive tried loads of htings on suse and nothing will work
[11:38] <Zeep> Another ressource is wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:39] <VooDoo> selinuim: roger!
[11:39] <SEJeff> signius: SUSE goes against the FHS and puts things in all kind of nonstandard locations. /opt/gnome is a good example
[11:39] <selinium> VooDoo, :)
[11:39] <william> what player should I be using Totem?
[11:39] <Zeep> SEJeff, It actually IS a standard location ;-)
[11:39] <signius> SEJeff Loads of distros so that
[11:39] <NutterUK> GlobespanVirata Prism 802.11g
[11:39] <jenda> selinium: It can be used for some things. Work is in progress on urdating it...
[11:39] <VooDoo> xine is ok william, but its a matter of choice
[11:39] <Zeep> SEJeff, According to the LSB-rules, this is a possible location :-)
[11:39] <SEJeff> signius: But thats not FHS compliant, and ubuntu is
[11:39] <signius> Its one of things holding back progress of linux IMHO i am all for the LSB
[11:39] <william> well I did the w32codecs and tried to run the .avi file and no luck
[11:40] <SEJeff> Zeep: gnome is not a user added extra package...
[11:40] <signius> NutterUK what wireless card is it ?
[11:40] <NutterUK> GlobespanVirata Prism 802.11g
[11:40] <Zeep> SEJeff, I read some discussions about this issue, maybe I can find some information, mom ;-)
[11:40] <signius> NutterUK what prism chipset ?
[11:40] <SEJeff> Zeep: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#OPTADDONAPPLICATIONSOFTWAREPACKAGES
[11:40] <VooDoo> william: i know i shouldnt but this really worked for me http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#xine-ui
[11:40] <Zeep> SEJeff, But, to cut it down, it depends on how you interpret the standard
[11:41] <selinium> VooDoo, Aaaargh!
[11:41] <jenda> huffers quit? He was just asking about his DVD...ah well his loss
[11:41] <NutterUK> signius who do i find that?
[11:41] <VooDoo> LOL well it works
[11:41] <zpierreski> When I try to install dvdrip, I get this message:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:41] <zpierreski>   dvdrip: Depends: transcode (>= 2:0.6.14) but it is not installable
[11:41] <zpierreski> E: Broken packages
[11:41] <jenda> zpierreski: Hoary?
[11:41] <zpierreski> yup
[11:41] <selinium> VooDoo, Are you going to be around when he folows some of the other stuff? :)
[11:42] <Zeep> SEJeff, I see, LSB and FHS are not the same thing, so, SuSE builds it's filesystem according to the LSB-standard ;-)
[11:42] <jenda> zpierreski:  Thought so
[11:42] <zpierreski> oh yeah, my backports aren't working either
[11:42] <NutterUK> signius who do i find that?
[11:42] <Amaranth> !backports
[11:42] <signius> NutterUK lspci
[11:42] <bluefrog-10> NutterUK, just put the install cd in and boot. install over the suse or elsewhere if u have space
[11:42] <Ex-Cyber> can anyone recommend a free tool (or set of tools) for backing up a drive image to DVD+RW that will span multiple disks?
[11:42] <NutterUK> im using winxp
[11:42] <SEJeff> Zeep: LSB builds off of FHS
[11:42] <Amaranth> !tell zpierreski about backports
[11:42] <zpierreski> jenda: U had this problem b4
[11:42] <VooDoo> XP!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAARRRRGHGHH im melting
[11:42] <NutterUK> thanks bluefrog
[11:42] <Amaranth> zpierreski: you're probably using the old unofficial backports
[11:42] <jenda> zpierreski: Yes This is a known problem, search the forum. I dunno what it was solved by
[11:42] <Amaranth> zpierreski: they break things and they got shut down
[11:42] <NutterUK> lol
[11:43] <concept10> The ubuntu 5.10 server doesnt automatically ifup eth0 during start.  Anyone familiar with the changes of /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:43] <jenda> Amaranth: No this is a Hoary issue
[11:43] <towsonu2003> VooDoo ehehehe
[11:43] <bluefrog-10> Ex-Cyber, is it just the matter to transfer the image or u want to create the image right away on the cd?
[11:43] <Amaranth> jenda: So?
[11:43] <jenda> zpierreski: Gimme a sec
[11:43] <Amaranth> jenda: hoary unofficial (mirrormax) backports broke lots of installs
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> right eth0 works but eth1 doesnt how do i determine which of card is eth0 or eth1?
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> i have two cards..
[11:44] <SEJeff> Zeep: If you read http://lsbbook.gforge.freestandards.org/install-app.html you will see the LSB specifically references FHS
[11:44] <jenda> Amaranth: I hod this prb before
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> nevermind eth0: Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter
[11:44] <Amaranth> lsuactiafner: i think lspci has that info
[11:44] <Zeep> SEJeff, Okay, thanks for your informations ;-)
[11:44] <Ex-Cyber> bluefrog-10: I'm not sure exactly what you mean... I don't think I can really create an intermediate file because some partitions are larger than others and I don't think it would result in a coherent image to take the image while writing to the partition...
[11:44] <zpierreski> crap!  I hate how I can apt-get programs one day, then can't the next!
[11:44] <Amaranth> zpierreski: Don't use unofficial sources and you won't have that problem.
[11:44] <jenda> zpierreski: not their fault...
[11:45] <VooDoo> my problems with apt was that i hadnt enable multiverse :)
[11:45] <zblach> what is the better replacement for sound juicer?
[11:45] <Zeep> SEJeff, Didn't know that, so ...
[11:45] <zpierreski> jenda: Is there a way to manually download packages and install them?
[11:45] <VooDoo> zblach: i use grip :)  works ok for me
[11:45] <SEJeff> Zeep: Learn something new every day :-)
[11:45] <zblach> i'd like to rip some CDs to MP3, but sj doesn't have it
[11:45] <jenda> zpierreski: yes
[11:45] <Zeep> SEJeff, Even after using Linux for years ;-)
[11:45] <selinium> zpierreski, if you have the wrong repos in your sources.list you can break your ubuntu.
[11:46] <jenda> zpierreski: You downlad a deb file
[11:46] <zpierreski> jenda: then do I use dpkg
[11:46] <jenda> zpierreski: and run "dpkg -i filename"
[11:46] <lsuactiafner> driver for 0000:00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
[11:46] <twisted_maple> crimsun: alive?
[11:46] <jenda> zpierreski: yes
[11:46] <NutterUK> ok thanks for your help just going to install ubuntu now.
[11:46] <lsuactiafner> is nforce reverse engineered?
[11:46] <Zeep> SEJeff, But, I guess, that's the reason why we all are linux-fanatics
[11:46] <zpierreski> jenda:  Thanx!
[11:46] <jenda> zpierreski:  with sudo
[11:46] <lsuactiafner> forcedeth
[11:46] <jenda> zpierreski: np
[11:47] <NutterUK> hopefully will be back in 20mins with it working!
[11:47] <SEJeff> Zeep: yes
[11:47] <LjL> hello, i've just recently installed ubuntu and have some doubts about repositories... the basic idea is that 1) the "breezy" repository only contains the same packages (and package versions) as there are on the Breezy CD  2) the "breezy-updates" repository contains the same packages as the "breezy" repository, with no new features or new packages, but only fixes to major bugs  3) the "breezy-security" repository contains only packages with fixes 
[11:47] <LjL> is this correct?
[11:47] <VooDoo> zeep: fanatics? me *twitch twitch*
[11:47] <DianWei> Probably an extremely quick question... I followed a tutorial on how to compile a source, at a given step it says "run ./configure" but when I try to do this, the terminal says command not found, what did I do wrong?
[11:47] <seth_k|lappy> DianWei, just type ./configure
[11:47] <VooDoo> LjL: i had the same issue, until i put multiverse in the sources.list file
[11:47] <SEJeff> Zeep: /usr is for the "main distribution" and /opt is for "additional" binaries. Most would agree that Ubuntu is a desktop distro primarily and gnome is part of the main distro
[11:47] <seth_k|lappy> not run ./configure
[11:47] <twisted_maple> crimsun: earth to crimsun, come in crimsun.
[11:48] <Razor-X> DianWei: just ``./configure''
[11:48] <bluefrog-10> Ex-Cyber, i think partimage can write to cd. u should have a look
[11:48] <LjL> voodoo: isnt multiverse basically about "non-free" packages?
[11:48] <Zeep> SEJeff, Yeah, I pretty much agree - altough I prefer KDE over GNOME ;-)
[11:48] <Razor-X> DianWei: the `.' specifies the current directory, and the `/' is the delimeter you use to imply something in the contents of a directory
[11:48] <twisted_maple> DianWei: just that.
[11:48] <DianWei> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[11:48] <Ex-Cyber> bluefrog-10: thanks
[11:48] <marek_> Bye
[11:48] <cevizoglu> LjL: there's universe repos also
[11:48] <VooDoo> LjL: not sure about that, but it enabled me to download apps like blam! and pan etc
[11:48] <signius> DIanWei ignore the run and just type ./configure
[11:48] <selinium> It's 22:48 in the UK, Good night all! :)
[11:48] <DianWei> That's what it returns.
[11:48] <bluefrog-10> Ex-Cyber, at least partimage can write to network so u can backup on a server
[11:48] <Zeep> VooDoo, You are the Windows Server guy, right :-D
[11:48] <VooDoo> night swlinium
[11:48] <SEJeff> Zeep: Same goes for KDE :) /usr
[11:49] <Razor-X> DianWei: is there a file called ``configure'' in the directory?
[11:49] <VooDoo> zeep: damn susssed
[11:49] <PadrePio> hi
[11:49] <selinium> LjL, Look at the repos list ubotu showed you
[11:49] <jenda> LjL: if you want to install programs, you will probably need the universe
[11:49] <nalioth> DianWei: perhaps there is not a configure script
[11:49] <PadrePio> no
[11:49] <Zeep> SEJeff, that's pretty clear ;-)
[11:49] <PadrePio> selinium yes
[11:49] <signius> DIanWei you need to be in the same directory as the source you are trying to compile
[11:49] <DianWei> no there is none.
[11:49] <selinium> lj
[11:49] <DianWei> I am i hope... let me check.
[11:49] <VooDoo> jenda: isnt universe there by defaut?
[11:49] <LjL> i have universe
[11:49] <ubuntuman> test
[11:49] <ubuntuman> helllouuuu... :)
[11:49] <PadrePio> ubuntuman no
[11:49] <bluefrog-10> Ex-Cyber, the only thing it has to be launched with a -L argument or something like it on the server os u won't be bothered with identification
[11:49] <jenda> VooDoo: no. It has to be enabled
[11:50] <VooDoo> hello ubuntuman
[11:50] <cevizoglu> LjL: there are third-party breezy repos also...
[11:50] <nalioth> DianWei: good rule of thumb, read the README or INSTALL in the source pkg
[11:50] <LjL> but, leaving universe for later for the moment... the other repositories (the ones i mentioned) *never* contain new releases, is that correct?
[11:50] <william> VooDoo, that page didnt work, all the packages are  "but is referred to by another package.
[11:50] <william> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:50] <william> is only available from another source
[11:50] <william> "
[11:50] <william> sorry
[11:50] <DianWei> I will try the readme.
[11:50] <Razor-X> DianWei: yeah, what nalioth said, INSTALL generally deals with the compilation process
[11:50] <cevizoglu> LjL: security contains security-related fixes to patch holes
[11:50] <elephanthunter> dropper45 : you there?
[11:50] <jenda> LjL: yes
[11:50] <signius> DIanWei also have you untarred the source 9 times out of 10 the source needs to be uncompressed
[11:51] <jenda> LjL: except for the security fixes
[11:51] <nalioth> william: please dont paste
[11:51] <LjL> jenda: ... and "major bug fixes" for breezy-updates, no?
[11:51] <DianWei> I have untarred the source.
[11:51] <jenda> LjL: yes
[11:51] <LjL> ok
[11:51] <DianWei> Unless I have to untar several times.
[11:52] <LjL> now what about universe? can it contain new releases even between ubuntu releases?
[11:52] <signius> DIanWei ok good
[11:52] <nalioth> DianWei: now cd into the directory the untarring process created
[11:52] <nalioth> DianWei: perhaps joining #kubuntu-offtopic where it is easier to keep up
[11:52] <kbrooks> DianWei: don't know the directory? hint: -v
[11:52] <jenda> LjL: I do not think so - that's what the backports are for
[11:52] <Razor-X> DianWei: if it's a .tar then a simple tar -vf should do the trick, .tar.gz is tar -xvzf, and .tar.bz2 is -xvjf
[11:52] <VooDoo> what you using LjL? hoary or breezy?
[11:53] <william> ok, so I installed w32codes but Totem player still gives me and error when I try and watch my movies
[11:53] <LjL> voodoo: breezy
[11:53] <jenda> VooDoo: Good Q
[11:53] <Ex-Cyber> bluefrog-10: I'm not sure this will work as it seems to require filesystem support and I have NTFS and BSD partitions which are listed as beta/experimental
[11:53] <jenda> william: DVD movies?
[11:53] <Ex-Cyber> otherwise it seems perfect ;)
[11:53] <VooDoo> i installed the DVD yesterday and the only thing i had to do was uncomment a few lines and add multiverse!
[11:53] <kbrooks> VooDoo: wow
[11:53] <william> well its an .avi
[11:53] <VooDoo> kbrooks: ?? wow?
[11:54] <kbrooks> VooDoo: yes wow
[11:54] <LjL> jenda: but, backports are from a *newer* distribution to an *older* distribution, aren't they? what about *between* distributions? in other words -- for example -- why are the latest KOffice packages only in an external repository (whose URL is mentioned on the Kubuntu site) and in none of the "standard" repositories?
[11:54] <kbrooks> LjL: Yes. they are
[11:54] <VooDoo> LjL bakports dont work for breezy yet the repository isnt enabled yet
[11:54] <VooDoo> kbrooks: you mean you dont have a copy? lol
[11:54] <jenda> william: I don't mean to scare you but avi are sometimes unplayable.
[11:54] <kbrooks> VooDoo: yet anyway
[11:54] <LjL> kbrooks: are in the standard repositories?
[11:54] <kbrooks> LjL: ?
[11:54] <towsonu2003> VooDoo: now I understand the thing with backports :)
[11:55] <kbrooks> LjL: rephrase
[11:55] <signius> DIanWei whats occuring ?
[11:55] <william> are you serious
[11:55] <VooDoo> :)
[11:55] <william> :(
[11:55] <LjL> kbrooks: you said "yes they are", what is where?
[11:55] <kbrooks> ljl: first question
[11:55] <DianWei> Oh, I've followed up to that point, I cded to that directory before coming here.
[11:55] <jenda> william: this doesn't have to be the case... but I have an avi that I just can't get to work while all others do work
[11:56] <william> lemme try other ones
[11:56] <william> all ive done is sudo the .deb package for w32codes
[11:56] <signius> DIanWei what are you trying to compile from source ?
[11:56] <LjL> voodoo: but the idea is that when backports is enabled, i'll get new packages also *before* the next Ubuntu release?
[11:56] <bluefrog-10> Ex-Cyber, so far I've never had pb with ntfs, but i may be lucky. about bsd i don't know. setup a machine with a quick xp and try it. otherwise if u really need to be sure u will have to go nortonghost. u could try freeghost as well btw.
[11:56] <jenda> william:  "sudo dpkg -i"?
[11:56] <DianWei> A comic reader program: comical.
[11:56] <signius> DIanWei also are you doing this as root
[11:56] <VooDoo> LjL: which packages? in particular?
[11:56] <william> yea
[11:56] <DianWei> I am using sudo.
[11:56] <LjL> i mean, you know, i'm used to Debian -- there packages are just updated incrementally, unless you use "stable"... "testing" and "unstable" get updated incrementally, and i'm just trying to map this to the way Ubuntu works
[11:57] <LjL> voodoo: updates... in general
[11:57] <signius> DIanWei so you did sudo su ?
[11:57] <Ex-Cyber> bluefrog-10: freeghost?
[11:57] <jenda> LjL: yes, it works similarly
[11:57] <DianWei> should I sudo su?
[11:57] <VooDoo> LjL: ah i see! well if you have all the repos enable you should be able to update using sudo apt-get update and it will pull down all the updates!
[11:57] <mAIJK> Hello. I have an FAT32 win disk and want to use it in ubuntu. Do I have to log in to DISK MANAGER every time I boot up and make it accessible and so on? Cant i make it so it can be accessed in \mnt ?
[11:58] <william> is that all I have to do to get the .deb package installed?
[11:58] <VooDoo> then sudo apt-get update
[11:58] <jenda> william: And did you get all the other codecs? (I am not sure if they are needed)
[11:58] <jenda> william: yes
[11:58] <william> which ones?
[11:58] <bluefrog-10> Ex-Cyber, yes ghost for linux. google a bit; can't remember the exact name right now
[11:58] <LjL> jenda: but with just "breezy", "breezy-updates", "breezy-security" and "universe" i just haven't gotten any new packages in the last four days or so... with debian, i had at least two or three packages every day, or sort of like that -- that's why i was thinking that Ubuntu worked differently
[11:58] <signius> yes
[11:58] <bluefrog-10> Ex-Cyber, maybe G4L or something like this
[11:58] <jenda> william: click system>help>Ubuntu Starter Guide and look for codecs
[11:58] <ecletrik> Could someone please tell me why I'm getting Input/Output errors while trying to move files from a DVD to my desktop?
[11:58] <StarKruzr> meh
[11:58] <Ex-Cyber> bluefrog-10: oh, g4u... that seems to only support network, no backup to CD/DVD
[11:58] <VooDoo> LjL: remember breezy hasnt been released that long, there may not be many
[11:59] <DianWei> Ok I sudo su'd
[11:59] <Ex-Cyber> bluefrog-10: I'll probably just try to cook up a shell script that uses dd, heh
[11:59] <Ex-Cyber> and try to shuffle my partitions appropriately
[11:59] <william> okay, thank you
[12:00] <jenda> LjL: As voodoo says, Breezy's fresh. I don't get many updates either
[12:00] <LjL> voodoo: i realize that, but, seeing the KOffice 1.4.2 released in an *external* repository (see http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-142.php) made me wonder whether Ubuntu just worked differently
[12:00] <pixelPOET> o wow....quite a bit more active that ubuntuforums
[12:00] <Ropechoborra> Hiz :)