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AndyFitzg'day again02:07
Tm_Twhat's g-day?02:07
AndyFitzstill trying to figure out why qtconfig and scribuscvs don't use the  widgets library paths02:07
Tm_T;--P02:07
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AndyFitzTim_T, its a whole lot easier than saying  good day gentlemen :)02:08
Tm_Ttim?02:08
Tm_TAndyFitz: an oh, I know ;)02:08
Tm_Tjust joking02:08
Tm_Tand oh, tim?02:09
AndyFitzg'day mrdocs02:09
AndyFitzoops02:09
AndyFitztm 02:09
Tm_T:p02:09
mrdocshehe02:09
AndyFitzthe 'm' glyph has so many vertical lines..   I tricked myself into seeing 5  lines in Tm  and not 402:10
Tm_Tjust call me Tm_T ot tmt or precident or Kekkonen ;)02:10
AndyFitzTm_T it is mate :)02:10
Tm_Tpresident even02:11
Tm_Tanyway, sleep ->02:11
AndyFitznight02:11
AndyFitzRiddell, mrdocs and I are trying to sort out a QT bug  that happens with qtconfig and scribus cvs under ubuntu.  Any luck finding out where the issue is ?02:11
mrdocsRiddell: hi jon02:12
AndyFitzwe may have missed him.   its late at night over there for both you guys02:15
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mrdocsfor tomorrow02:15
AndyFitzok02:15
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_Tonio_morning09:55
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dholbachhey10:30
dholbachwould some of you guys mind coming over to #ubuntu-bugs too?10:30
dholbachto tend the kubuntu bug triagists?10:30
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Tm_Thm10:48
AndyFit1g'day Tm_T10:50
AndyFit1Riddell ping10:50
Tm_Thmh, what's with KGuitar & KGuitarTMP10:53
Tm_Tok, at least KGuitar seems to be the tool for me, I can do music again <310:57
Tm_Tthere's no loss using FOSS ;)10:57
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=== lamont-away idly notes that he will upload arts, knetworkconf, and kaffeine sometime within the next 5-6 days
lamont-awayunless someone beats him to http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/09/msg00020.html02:34
Tm_Thm02:34
Tm_Twas there somewhere midi-howto ?02:34
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apokryphos(i) link to amarok 1.3.5 changes (and their site) on the news page? (ii) "What is Kubuntu" title is there twice... might actually be down to me.06:40
apokryphos(on the FAQ page, that is)06:40
Riddellapokryphos: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.5.php  ok?06:43
apokryphosyup, perfect06:44
Riddellfaq.php fixed06:44
Riddellthanks06:44
pefRiddell: hello Jonathan06:48
Riddellhi pef baby06:49
pefRiddell: can you please upload qtparted ? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=794 06:50
Riddellpef: I triedwhen you last asked but gcc didn't want to install on my chroot so I couldn't test it, I'll try again today06:51
Riddellkeep poking me, it's the right thing to do :)06:51
pefok :] 06:52
pefa question about versions: I have foo-0.6-0ubuntu1, and it needs a rebuild, should I increase version number, or just add build1 ? 0.6-0ubuntu1build1 ?06:53
Riddellwhy does it need a rebuild?06:54
pefRiddell: empty package06:54
Riddellwhat was empty?06:55
pefbroken dependency, sorry06:55
pefmalone #357606:55
Riddellincrease version number is fine, the 0build1 stuff is just for packages from debian that bad to be rebuilt on ubuntu because of gcc change but where there was no changes to the package and we didn't want an -ubuntu version which would stop auto-sync06:55
pefRiddell: malone #3360 for empty package06:58
Riddellpatch for 3576 looks good :)06:59
pefRiddell: about #3360 if wasn't FTFFS too, and just need a rebuild, how manage revision number ?07:00
pefRiddell: not very complicated patch ;)07:00
Riddellif it's got changes in it then it needs a -ubuntu version number07:00
Riddellit already has an -ubuntu version number by looks of it so just increment that07:01
pefRiddell: like here ? http://dev.erodia.net/ubuntu/kzenexplorer/kzenexplorer_0.6-0ubuntu1.debdiff07:01
Riddellpef: that's all correct yes07:02
\shmoins07:02
pefRiddell: thank you !07:03
pefRiddell: I applied to being a MOTU, do you think you can "support" me at cc meeting ?07:05
Riddellpef: woo!  yeah07:07
pefcool :] 07:08
peffoo-1.5.3-3 isn't packaged yet into Ubuntu, new changelog entry should be 1.5.4-0ubuntu1, right ?07:48
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Riddellpef: I don't understand07:49
Riddellif uptream is 1.5.3 and there's no debian call it 1.5.3-0ubuntu107:49
pefRiddell: this is this package http://packages.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/c/checkinstall/checkinstall_1.5.3-3/changelog07:50
Riddelland what are you asking?07:51
pefwhat the new changelog version entry should be07:52
Riddellwhat are you doing to it?07:52
Riddellpef: oh kcheckgmail got into dapper I saw07:53
Riddellvia debian, with your changes07:53
pefnice :)07:53
pefRiddell: adding make to Depends, checkinstall doesn"t work without it (malone #3142)07:53
Riddellthen it should be 1.5.3-3ubuntu107:55
pefRiddell: I don't understand the "3" before ubuntu, shouldn't it be a 0, since the package wasn't yet packaged by ubuntu ?07:56
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pefRiddell: such a change is important enough for breezy-updates ?08:03
Riddellpef: the 3 is the debian number, since that's the number debian uses ubuntu needs to inherit that08:04
Riddellpef: which change?08:05
Riddellbreezy-updates is very strictly controlled and only minor and serious patches get in08:05
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pefRiddell: adding make to Depends for checkinstall08:06
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Riddelluniverse.  not sure who controls breezy-updates for universe08:08
\shthe same people who are in control for main ;)08:09
\shmdz that is right now08:09
Riddelllamont: go ahead, or if you wait a few hours I might well get round to doing it08:09
pefRiddell: thanks for you patience to answer my lames questions ;)08:10
\shhmmm08:11
\shdpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3:3.3.4-4) qt3-dev-tools (>= 3:3.3.4-4)08:12
\shbut08:12
\shshermann@nc6000-laptop:~/packages/breezy/qscintilla/debian/qscintilla-1.6$ apt-cache madison libqt3-mt-dev08:12
\shlibqt3-mt-dev | 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 | http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages08:12
lamontRiddell: almost done, gonna test build it to make sure it's happy/etc.  you want a bug in bz with the diff?08:12
lamontarts frees up a few things, and it still leaves kaffeine, knetworkconf, koffice, konversation, ksystemlog for you to do. :-)08:12
\shoh I'm doomed...missing a -S08:12
Riddelllamont: in bz?08:13
Riddelloh, bugzilla.  sure08:13
lamontbugzilla.ubuntu.com.. you know..08:13
lamontoh, and sanekonsole08:13
\shqscintilla uploaded :(08:31
Riddell\sh: why is that bad?08:33
\shRiddell: because it belongs to my "toolchain" of python-qt stuff, means, I untightend one build-dep and uploaded it as ubuntu version with purpose08:34
pefbye all :)08:35
Riddell\sh: but you uploaded it08:35
\shRiddell: yeah...I need it for python-qt3 08:36
Riddell\sh: so you're saabout your upload?08:36
Riddell\sh: so you're sad about your upload?08:36
\shRiddell: yes..because the whole python-qt situation is a bit "strange"...as long as pyQT upstream doesn't follow simple rules like "documenting your work" :(08:37
Simesupport for qscintilla has to be built with PyQt. annoying.08:38
\shSime: that's why I made a "stupid" change to "debian/control" to have a ubuntuX version...which p*sses me off somehow08:39
Simewhat do you mean by 'stupid'?08:39
\shSime: removing a tightend build-dep...08:40
Simeoh08:40
\shSime: this is what I name " 'stupid' change"08:40
\shbut it's with a purpose08:41
\shbut I'm happy to see "eric" in dapper again ;)08:43
Simecool, are there any big additions planned for dapper? (apart from 3.5)08:50
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\shSime: I hope we can get a working qt4 implementation of pyqt at least for universe..08:54
Sime\sh: I'm don't know how useful it will be in 6 months.08:55
\shSime: thinking about kde4, we need to have a working version...if not, we have to remove some stuff from kubuntu main which is not nice :(08:57
Sime\sh: errr... there won't be a KDE4 in 6 months though08:59
\shSime: but after 7 months we will work on it...so it should be qt4 ready (the python stuff)09:01
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