[12:00] <phasegen> anyone know where to find msttcorefonts for breezy?  Synaptic cant find the installer.
[12:00] <jenda> william: found it?
[12:00] <zblach> would it not be easier to get sound juicer to support mp3?
[12:00] <signius> DIanWei now cd into the src directory
[12:00] <bille_> hallo ! kann mir jemand bitte schnell helfen,
[12:00] <william> not the codes part but i'm looking
[12:00] <Kumasan> phasegen: checked in multiverse?
[12:00] <spudse> When I apt-get fluxbox, how does X I want that WM ?
[12:00] <lsuactiafner> how do i fix
[12:00] <lsuactiafner> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/universe/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:00] <jenda> pixelPOET: don't you think so too...
[12:00] <phasegen> you betcha
[12:00] <william> got it
[12:00] <spudse> When I apt-get fluxbox, how does X I *know want that WM ?
[12:00] <VooDoo> LjL: im trying to send you my sources.list file.........take a look compare it to yours
[12:01] <lsuactiafner> spudse : it will asl you
[12:01] <VooDoo> forget that stupid idea
[12:01] <jenda> phasegen: check the wiki Restricted Formats I think it's there
[12:01] <LjL> voodoo: sorry, i'm afraid i can't accept DCCs... my ISP puts me behind a NAT
[12:01] <lsuactiafner> ask you
[12:01] <DianWei> Already there, signius
[12:01] <phasegen> Kumasan: you betcha
[12:01] <spudse> lsuactiafner, X 'knows' I installed a WM ?
[12:01] <Kumasan> Filename: pool/multiverse/m/msttcorefonts/msttcorefonts_1.2ubuntu2_all.deb
[12:01] <phasegen> jenda:  It says at-get it
[12:02] <jenda> phasegen: OK, gimme a sec
[12:02] <LjL> voodoo: anyway, what I have in my sources.list is the default sources.list with everything uncommented (except backports, since it doesn't work yet)
[12:02] <signius> DIanWei can you give me the link to where you got the source code from ?
[12:02] <elephanthunter> bille_: Mit was mssen Sie helfen?
[12:02] <VooDoo> LjL: heres my line from the sources.list remember im using the DVD install of breezy
[12:02] <VooDoo> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse
[12:02] <DianWei> I will see.
[12:02] <mAIJK> How should I do to mount my other harddrive everytime I start ubuntu? it is an FAT 32!
[12:02] <Kumasan> spudse: when you login via GDM, the session selector should allow you to chose fluxbox if you installed it via the repositories
[12:02] <DianWei> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/comical/comical-0.6.tar.gz
[12:02] <ecletrik> Could someone please tell me why I'm getting Input/Output errors while trying to move files from a DVD to my desktop?
[12:03] <kingright> BRB after i D/L and install 5.10
[12:03] <Kumasan> ecletrik: could be a dirty DVD :)
[12:03] <ecletrik> It's not.
[12:03] <jenda> mAIJK: I know we aren't supposed to do this, but ubuntuguide.org will tell you that. don't use it for other things - it's old
[12:03] <ecletrik> If I keep hitting retry the file will eventually go through and work.
[12:03] <Kumasan> ecletrik: then maybe it's scratched, or the drive itself is borked
[12:03] <ecletrik> But there are 300+ files there.
[12:03] <ecletrik> Dude it works just fine.
[12:04] <LjL> voodoo: the only real difference with mine is the presence of "multiverse"... which if i have understood correctly (which i somewhat doubt) is just for non-free packages and the likes
[12:04] <holycow> heh
[12:04] <Kumasan> ecletrik: if it worked fine, you wouldn't have a problem. *something* is borked
[12:04] <spudse> Kumasan, alright thanks. I hope fluxbox will somehow bring the speed of winxp back in my machine. Gnome is sooo slow.
[12:04] <holycow> apt horked on breezy oo.org2 dependencies
[12:04] <Amaranth> new release of alacarte (smeg, menu editor) is out, see http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte for download info :D
[12:04] <ecletrik> Kumasan, then installing Ubuntu borked my DVD drive, I suppose.
[12:04] <ecletrik> At least by your logic.
[12:04] <holycow> this is the first time i gotta say thanks for aptitude, saved me butt
[12:04] <Kumasan> ecletrik: does it show problems with other DVDs or just this one?
[12:04] <VooDoo> LjL: im not sure either to be honest!
[12:05] <ecletrik> all.
[12:05] <lsuactiafner> spudse : it will know if you used apt-get to install it
[12:05] <ecletrik> It worked fine on Windows.
[12:05] <ecletrik> It still does work fine on windows.
[12:05] <VooDoo> windows? FAONT!
[12:05] <VooDoo> FAINT!
[12:05] <VooDoo> see cant type right im in shock
[12:05] <lsuactiafner> spudse : control alt backspace will restart X
[12:05] <Kumasan> ecletrik: perhaps a driver issue, dunno without more info.
[12:05] <jenda> phasegen: got it
[12:05] <bluefrog-10> spudse, ther's no reason for gnome to be slower than xp
[12:06] <lsuactiafner> whats the line i need to add for breezy mplayer support in sources?
[12:06] <phasegen> jenda: sweet
[12:06] <ecletrik> When I drag and drop an audio file from the window that pops up that says "DVD-R", it says: Error "I/O error" while copying "/media/cdr... mix).mp3".
[12:06] <signius> DIanWei reading now
[12:06] <ecletrik> I don't know how to give you any more information than that.
[12:06] <Kumasan> ecletrik: what does dmesg say? any more info there?
[12:06] <ecletrik> If I continue hitting retry, the file will eventually be fully transferred and will have 100% integrity.
[12:07] <dell500> can someone tell me why  gaim and firefox sometimes just randomly quit?
[12:07] <jenda> phasegen: what happens if you apt-get it?
[12:07] <LjL> look, my main fear is this: the Kubuntu site says you can find packages for the new KOffice 1.4.2 at "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice142 breezy main" -- while the "normal" (breezy, universe, etc) repositories just contain koffice 1.4.1.   am i supposed to just visit the ubuntu/kubuntu site often, and add repositories when they create ones for new versions of things?
[12:07] <ecletrik> Error "I/O error" while copying "/media/cdr... mix).mp3".
[12:07] <LjL> now, perhaps the koffice 1.4.2 thing is because it's still considered "experimental", or something...? but it isn't quite clear
[12:07] <ecletrik> Kumasan, [4298848.010000]  hdc: media error (blank): error=0x80 { LastFailedSense=0x08 }
[12:07] <ecletrik> [4298848.010000]  ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[12:07] <ecletrik> [4298848.010000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 3316
[12:07] <ecletrik> [4298848.011000]  hdc: media error (blank): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete  Error }
[12:07] <phasegen> jenda: all I did was try synaptic
[12:07] <odie5533> How do I install Azureus on Ubuntu?
[12:07] <jenda> ecletrik: looks like a bad scratch to me, but I'm an amateur
[12:07] <phasegen> jenda: hang on
[12:07] <Kumasan> ecletrik: is dma enabled on the drive?
[12:08] <kemik> odie5533: you need java, that's all
[12:08] <ecletrik> jenda, I made this disk like 5 minutes ago it's not scratched mate.
[12:08] <odie5533> kemik: I have java, now what
[12:08] <ecletrik> Kumasan, how would I check/know?
[12:08] <holycow> odie5533, you don't need to, just download and run it with jave -jar auzaureus.jar ... you need java jre installed however
[12:08] <Kumasan> sudo hdparm /dev/hdc
[12:08] <DianWei> IS there a possibility I just do make without ./configure?
[12:08] <LjL> perhaps i should ask on the #kubuntu channel, they might know something specific about koffice 1.4.2 that may make matters clearer...
[12:08] <signius> DIanWei yes
[12:08] <kemik> DianWei: that's possible
[12:08] <ecletrik>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[12:08] <DianWei> I will try that, and come back.
[12:08] <signius> there isnt a config file in the src
[12:09] <odie5533> when I type java -jar Azureus2.3.0.4.jar it says Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/log4j/Layout
[12:09] <Kumasan> DianWei: if there's allready a MAkefile, yes
[12:09] <bille_>  i got a keybord problem i want to write an `e , but it only looks like  this 'e or this e
[12:09] <phasegen> jenda: phasegen@phasegenz:~$ sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[12:09] <phasegen> Reading package lists... Done
[12:09] <phasegen> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:09] <phasegen> Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:09] <phasegen> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:09] <phasegen> is only available from another source
[12:09] <phasegen> E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[12:09] <DianWei> There are a few of them
[12:09] <Kumasan> ecletrik: /sbin/hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc would turn on dma
[12:09] <ecletrik> Kumasan, should I do that?
[12:09] <phasegen> ooops!
[12:09] <signius> DIanWei there is only only 1 makefile
[12:09] <signius> DIanWei i am lloking at it now
[12:09] <Kumasan> ecletrik: it's unlikely to bork anything if you try it.
[12:10] <ecletrik> okay dma is enabled
[12:10] <Kumasan> ecletrik: does that help?
[12:10] <ecletrik> no
[12:10] <william> ok I have enabled all of the repoitories except the backports one.. I'm reading instructions that say I need to install Libraries (multiverse)... I do not see LIbraries(multiverse)
[12:10] <jenda> phasegen: why oops? I think you do not have multiverse enabled
[12:10] <ecletrik> I still get the I/O error.
[12:10] <Kumasan> ec;:(
[12:10] <ecletrik> I have a Writemaster DVD combo drive
[12:11] <william> well, libraries(multiverse)gstreamer
[12:11] <signius> DIanWei the other 2 have extentions and are not plain makefile
[12:11] <Kumasan> ecletrik: I'd try googling for the drive and Ubuntu or Linux and IO errors, see if someone else has the same problem, and a solution
[12:11] <Ropechoborra> How do i do to add an user into sudoers
[12:12] <DianWei> Ok.
[12:12] <Ropechoborra> my english suxs :(
[12:12] <phasegen> jenda:  you are so right, I goofed...
[12:12] <bille_>  i got a keybord problem i want to write an `e , but it only looks like  this 'e or this e
[12:12] <ecletrik> I tried that before I ever came here!
[12:12] <Seveas> Ropechoborra, there are several localized channels
[12:13] <signius> DIanWei can you not apt-get for this ?
[12:13] <Ropechoborra> Seveas yea... but none as good as this :P
[12:13] <jenda> phasegen: do you know how to enable that? the easiest way is in synaptic
[12:13] <opti> hi
[12:13] <nekron> in mirrors of ubunto doesn't have the beep media player?
[12:13] <Seveas> Ropechoborra, but your problem is easily solved: sudo adduser the_username admin
[12:13] <signius> it seems to be in fedora and also for os-x so makes me think it maybe
[12:13] <Seveas> !info beep-media-player
[12:13] <ubotu> beep-media-player: (Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 831 kB, Installed size: 3588 kB
[12:13] <Ropechoborra> Seveas i`ve already tryed that... it says that admin is not a gruop or something like that
[12:13] <Seveas> nekron, have you anabled universe
[12:13] <Kumasan> ecletrik: dunno then. I don;t have the drive. You might try some of the other options in hdparm, but read the manpages, and avoid the ones that say they're dangerous.
[12:13] <Seveas> Ropechoborra, are you running an upgraded warty install?
[12:14] <Ropechoborra> nop... hoary
[12:14] <DianWei> signius: search doesn't return anything for comical.
[12:14] <johnny2> has how can i build my own deb package for a php module?
[12:14] <Seveas> did you do a server install perhaps?
[12:14] <Kumasan> ecletrik: another thing to look at, is the possibility of irq conflicts I supose.
[12:14] <Seveas> johnny2, wich module?
[12:14] <phasegen> jenda: I just did it, and found the fonts...   :) thankyou!
[12:14] <johnny2> dio
[12:14] <opti> i am using a live cd now. and i managed to download opera, and also extracted the files in a new folder. how do i execute it. if i double click on it.. there is no response
[12:14] <Ropechoborra> O_o whats that ?
[12:14] <DianWei> that is, in synamptic.
[12:14] <nekron> Seveas, deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[12:14] <nekron> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[12:14] <PlanarPlatypus> does anyone know where I would file a bug against the eclipse package?
[12:14] <ecletrik> if it was an irq conflict
[12:14] <signius> DIanWei do you have all the repositries available
[12:14] <jenda> phasegen: np
[12:14] <ecletrik> why would it have worked before
[12:14] <johnny2> i have the php5-dev
[12:14] <Seveas> nekron, that's not complete
[12:15] <johnny2> and all the required build tools
[12:15] <ecletrik> I can view all of the files on the drive
[12:15] <Seveas> !tell nekron about sources
[12:15] <DianWei> repositories? are these extra compilers?
[12:15] <opti> i am using a live cd now. and i managed to download opera, and also extracted the files in a new folder. how do i execute it. if i double click on it.. there is no response
[12:15] <ecletrik> but when I try and copy them, I get that error message.
[12:15] <Ropechoborra> Seveas O_o whats server install ?
[12:15] <Kumasan> ecletrik: before what?
[12:15] <william> can someone tell me how to get multiverse?  I'm reading the starterguide but ive got everything checked and still no libraries(multiverse)
[12:15] <ecletrik> before ubuntu
[12:15] <Seveas> Ropechoborra, nvm, van you put the file /etc/group on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:15] <johnny2> Seveas, dio
[12:15] <opti> i am using a live cd now. and i managed to download opera, and also extracted the files in a new folder. how do i execute it. if i double click on it.. there is no response
[12:16] <nekron> caue@caue:~$ cd /mnt/win/
[12:16] <nekron> bash: cd: /mnt/win/: Permisso negada (access denied)
[12:16] <Seveas> opti, bad call
[12:16] <Seveas> you should download the .deb file
[12:16] <signius> DIanWei having a read about this i reckon you are going to have problems with libs also
[12:16] <Seveas> and not extract but install it
[12:16] <nekron> Seveas, and sudo cd /mnt/win > sudo: cd: command not found
[12:16] <Kumasan> ecletrik: probably a driver issue, either with the ide controller, or the drive itself I'd guess
[12:16] <Seveas> nekron, that's useless
[12:16] <opti> ya. . i did that too.. but when i tried to install it , another error came up
[12:16] <DianWei> signius: is it operator error, or is it just a bit complex for a newbie?
[12:16] <johnny2> Seveas, looks like you got your hands full here :)
[12:17] <Seveas> johnny2, no worse than normal
[12:17] <Seveas> :)
[12:17] <Ropechoborra> xD
[12:17] <signius> DIanWei you need to get wxGTK and also wxGTK-devel as well i think
[12:17] <Seveas> opti, paste that error on the pastebin please
[12:17] <johnny2> i'm not in a big rush.. i'm just tryin to kill some time
[12:17] <DianWei> signius, I can obtain those from synamptic, right?
[12:17] <opti> seveans, is it ok if i run the install.sh
[12:18] <Razor-X> anyone here use nbsmtp?
[12:18] <Seveas> johnny2, does that module come with a file named configure and a file named Makefile?
[12:18] <signius> DIanWei probably
[12:18] <opti> seveans, i tried to run the install.sh file... but nothing happend
[12:18] <Seveas> opti, read what i said
[12:18] <Seveas> you should download the .deb file
[12:18] <Ropechoborra> Seveas i dont wanna bother you =( but didnt got how to do if the admin group is not recognized
[12:18] <Seveas> that's not an install.sh file
[12:18] <opti> ok. i gues that the only way
[12:19] <Seveas> Ropechoborra, can you put the file /etc/group on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:19] <signius> DIanWei also need the libwxgtk libwxgtkgl and libwxgtk-devel also
[12:19] <Ropechoborra> Nop :( not in my machine rigth now
[12:19] <Kumasan> anyone try dapper yet?
[12:20] <Seveas> right...
[12:20] <nisq> Ropechobarra, I just came in so excuse me if I am lost, but what be the problem with the admin group
[12:20] <odie5533> How do I use Azureus with Ubuntu?
[12:20] <Seveas> !azureus
[12:20] <ubotu> azureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[12:20] <cemOzturk> odie5533 : isnt it java stuff?
[12:20] <Razor-X> Seveas: would you have any idea why I can send mail manually through nbsmtp, but not through mutt?
[12:20] <towsonu2003> stupid question: when you install xfce, does the process make it your default session?
[12:20] <nisq> have you tried sudo? super user do
[12:20] <Kumasan> towsonu2003: no, you select that in the login
[12:20] <Seveas> Razor-X, probably a postfi misconfiguration
[12:20] <LjL> hey, does breezy have an "-extras" repository too, and what is an "-extras" repository supposed to contain?
[12:20] <cemOzturk> towsonu2003 : kdm, gdm ..
[12:20] <LjL> or, perhaps,
[12:20] <LjL> !breezy-extras
[12:20] <ubotu> LjL: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:21] <LjL> no, perhaps not
[12:21] <Seveas> Razor-X, make sure you have a valid hostname in /etc/mailname
[12:21] <Ropechoborra> nisq I want to add a user acc. to the sudoers list... but when i type sudo adduser $user admin it says that admin isnt a group
[12:21] <Ropechoborra> or something like that
[12:21] <cemOzturk> any one try e17 ?
[12:21] <Razor-X> Seveas: why though? nbsmtp is a standalone program, it has no need for a daemon
[12:21] <towsonu2003> cemOzturk: couldn't get it Kumasan: thanks
[12:21] <nisq> Ah something I need to learn also... Thanks for bearing with me
[12:21] <Ropechoborra> xD
[12:21] <Seveas> Razor-X, mutt needs an MTA :)
[12:21] <Ropechoborra> Ok thanks anyway :P
[12:22] <cemOzturk> i think e17"enlightenment" gonna be the unique desktop system...
[12:22] <ecletrik> why can't I apt-get libdvdcss2?
[12:22] <cemOzturk> towsonu2003 :  i wanted to say that you can make it default via kdm or gdm
[12:22] <Razor-X> Seveas: as the instructions say, ``set sendmail="nbsmtp'' then just insert your options, and you're set
[12:22] <cemOzturk> towsonu2003 : also you can touch x session files..
[12:22] <Razor-X> Seveas: just put that in your .muttrc
[12:22] <Seveas> ecletrik, it's not in the standardrepos
[12:22] <cemOzturk> ecletrik : whats your output?
[12:22] <lsuactiafner> anyone running quake4?
[12:22] <lsuactiafner> in nix..
[12:22] <Seveas> Razor-X, then you are already beyond my mutt knowledge :)
[12:22] <towsonu2003> cem: oh okay thanks :)
[12:22] <ecletrik> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:23] <Razor-X> Seveas: meh
[12:23] <cemOzturk> lsuactiafner : i want to play but i've intel chipset graphic card :(
[12:23] <Seveas> ecletrik, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl <-- that one has it in breezy-extras
[12:23] <dell500> does anyone here have any knowledge about Image Gallery and Apache?
[12:23] <bored2k> l If i try to run synaptic or add program I get these errors Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root: . What gives?
[12:23] <opti> seveans, how do  i install the deb file. i have just downloaded it
[12:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ecletrik about libdvdcss2
[12:23] <SEJeff> dell500: Install gallery2
[12:23] <cemOzturk> ecletrik : update your aptlist
[12:23] <Ropechoborra> Other thing... i`ve been trying to connect by dial-up so i created a new connection but when i type "pon" it doesnt start dialing :(
[12:23] <dell500> SEJeff, i think i did, it updated it
[12:24] <dell500> and updated my album too
[12:24] <cemOzturk> Ropechoborra: usb dialup modem?
[12:24] <dell500> but now it's not working for some reason, it worked before after the update, but no go now
[12:24] <Seveas> bored2k, what's the output of 'sudo synaptic' in the terminal?
[12:24] <Ropechoborra> cemOzturk usb?
[12:24] <Ropechoborra> Integrated
[12:24] <vbgunz> why oh why is the dictionary eeexxxxxtreeeeeemeeely slow?
[12:24] <lsuactiafner> cemOzturk : know of anything special but the install file.run i need to download or know?
[12:24] <LjL> i'm really getting lost with repositories. must say debian seemed easier in this respect
[12:24] <vbgunz> any tweaks for that distionary?
[12:24] <cemOzturk> Ropechoborra : may i get the name of your dialup modem_?
[12:24] <nekron> Seveas, i don't understand.. how i install the beep using apt?
[12:24] <lsuactiafner> right now my system is broken... but am fixing it
[12:24] <bored2k> Seveas, sudo: must be setuid root
[12:25] <opti> seveas , i downloaded the opera deb file , how to install it
[12:25] <Seveas> bored2k, you messed up privileges in /usr/bin
[12:25] <Ropechoborra> cemOzturk wow... its onboard... with a pc chips mother
[12:25] <vbgunz> nekron, you can search for beep media player in Synaptic or I believe it is under Add Applications...
[12:25] <cemOzturk> lsuactiafner : then just type ./blabla.run & :)
[12:25] <Seveas> opti, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:25] <Seveas> nekron, did you enable universe?
[12:25] <bored2k> Seveas, how to fix it ?
[12:25] <cemOzturk> Ropechoborra : dont you know the vendor of your modem?
[12:25] <StarKruzr> so I installed postgres from apt.  when I go to createdb, it tells me the user I am on does not exist.  wth?
[12:25] <cemOzturk> Ropechoborra : query your ttys ports
[12:25] <opti> how do i go back one folder... using cd command ??
[12:26] <Seveas> bored2k, what's the output of: which sudo
[12:26] <Kumasan> opti:  cd ..
[12:26] <chicano-> !ubuntuguide
[12:26] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[12:26] <Kumasan> opti:  well, that's up, back to previous is cd -
[12:26] <chicano-> !faq
[12:26] <ubotu> somebody said faq was The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[12:26] <Ropechoborra> cemOzturk in windows its located on com3 (ttys2 isnt it?) so i configured that way
[12:26] <lsuactiafner> cemOzturk : tried that earlier and quake4 gave me a libSDL error
[12:26] <lsuactiafner> Installing symlink /usr/local/bin/quake4 -> /usr/local/games/quake4//quake4
[12:26] <lsuactiafner> ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot
[12:26] <lsuactiafner> open
[12:26] <ecletrik> damnit I still can't move files from my dvd drive to my desktop
[12:26] <cemOzturk> Ropechoborra : can kppp query ttys2 ?
[12:26] <vbgunz> Can someone please open up there dictionary Applications > Accessories > Dictionary and try to enter a word and search for it... Is it DEAD SLOW? It's always been like this for me... Any ideas? I would like a dictionary as simple as the default... Please help?
[12:26] <holycow> *hmmm*
[12:26] <ecletrik> i have $50 of music on that disk
[12:27] <lsuactiafner> right now my pc is screwe with breezy... but working on it..
[12:27] <holycow> why does breezy gnome splash screen default to debian?
[12:27] <Kumasan> ecletrik: how large are the files in question?
[12:27] <holycow> thats weird
[12:27] <chicano-> Seveas, http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/ is broken
[12:27] <chicano-> 404
[12:27] <Ropechoborra> cemOzturk how can i test that?
[12:27] <dell500> yup
[12:27] <Seveas> chicano-, try help.ubuntu.com
[12:27] <bored2k> Seveas,  /usr/bin/sudo
[12:27] <cemOzturk> lsuactiafner : have you got the exact version of libsdlxxx ?
[12:27] <lsuactiafner> i dont have a default nice system thats 100% ubuntu, thats why breezy aint too nice with me now.. but am VERY impressed it upgraded to this point
[12:27] <ecletrik> Kumasan, like 5mb each
[12:27] <lsuactiafner> cemOzturk : no idea..
[12:27] <cemOzturk> Ropechoborra : i don remember, but in kppp you can see that on top menu links
[12:27] <Kumasan> ecletrik: do you get the same error when you try from the shell?
[12:27] <ecletrik> yes
[12:27] <Seveas> !no faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://help.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[12:27] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[12:28] <LjL> seveas: is your repository made to contain packages that aren't in breezy, or new versions of things that are in breezy, or both, or what?
[12:28] <cemOzturk> Ropechoborra : there is gui for querying ttys series in kppp
[12:28] <opti> opera depends on libqt3c102-mt; however:  Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.... this is the error.. what do i do now
[12:28] <Seveas> LjL, I don't do backports, but a few packages in my repo (gksu and gftp) have features enabled that are not enabled in the standard packages
[12:28] <Ropechoborra> cemOzturk in kppp whats the k mean ?
[12:28] <LjL> opti: uh... install it? :-)
[12:28] <Ropechoborra> :(
[12:28] <cemOzturk> lsuactiafner : find | grep libSDL-1.2.so
[12:28] <Seveas> the rest is non-breezy packages
[12:28] <johnny2> k for kde...
[12:28] <opti> where to get that ljl
[12:29] <lsuactiafner> did a apt-get of libSDL-1.2.so now for breezy
[12:29] <Kumasan> ecletrik: might want to try booting a DSL or Knoppix disk "toram" and see if the problem is there too. If it isn't, then do a lsmod to get a modules list, and see if the modules for the drive and ide chipset are different.
[12:29] <lsuactiafner>  /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1
[12:29] <LjL> opti: sudo aptitude install libqt3c102-mt --- or if that doesn't work, do an apt-cache search libqt3
[12:29] <lsuactiafner> 4926 apt-get install libsdl-console libsdl-console-dev libsdl1.2debian-all
[12:29] <cemOzturk> lsuactiafner : type your problem to google search :)
[12:29] <DianWei> The make command is spitting a buncha stuff out now, with no erros yet...
[12:29] <cemOzturk> lsuactiafner : also idsoftware must have faqs/trobleshooting pages for it
[12:30] <lsuactiafner> cemOzturk : i only got console now... think its since i make my own kernel and i have a hyrbid slackware system.. problem should be specific to me
[12:30] <fookit> where can I get new themes for ubuntu ?>
[12:30] <DianWei> It looks like it went off without a hitch; do I just make install now?
[12:30] <dell500> !gallery2
[12:30] <ubotu> dell500: Are you on ritalin?
[12:30] <cemOzturk> lsuactiafner : use links
[12:30] <dell500> lol!
[12:30] <lsuactiafner> jsut ran into a huge mplayer problem and it was becuase of my setup, mplayer is working nwo though.. using lynx now for idsoftware
[12:30] <cemOzturk> lsuactiafner : links is a text-based browser
[12:30] <lsuactiafner> lynx is sexier
[12:31] <Razor-X> lynx is t3h sexy
[12:31] <Razor-X> I prefer it over links
[12:31] <cemOzturk> lsuactiafner : not like my girlfriend dude :)
[12:31] <lsuactiafner> is libglu1-mesa a good thing to have on a pc?
[12:31] <Cyklone> someone has some stuff that about historico of net HFC? Tks!
[12:31] <cemOzturk> lsuactiafner : ofcourse
[12:31] <lsuactiafner> got a feeling it gave me problems before
[12:31] <lsuactiafner> does it replace the nvidia gl?
[12:31] <vbgunz> anyone know how to tweak the dictionary application and keep it from working DEAD SLOW?
[12:31] <fookit> Are there Games On linux?
[12:31] <lsuactiafner> since i use the nvidia.run drivers
[12:32] <cemOzturk> fookit : linuxgames.org
[12:32] <Kumasan> vbgunz: works fine here, how slow is "Dead slow"?
[12:32] <lsuactiafner> does libglu1-mesa overwrite nvidia gl support? i use the NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-7667-pkg2.run and i dont want anything interferring with it
[12:33] <Kumasan> fookit: man nethack :)
[12:33] <P8ntKid> Why does fluxbox start so slow in ubuntu?
[12:33] <cemOzturk> lsuactiafner : no
[12:33] <towsonu2003> fookit: google "linux games" - gives many links
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> good thanks
[12:33] <jenda> Kumasan: ideal solution
[12:33] <william> hey I got the movies to work but they are all out of sync when I play them.. like really bad...
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> quake4 and doom3 runs in linux enough said.
[12:33] <Kumasan> jenda: ?
[12:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell william about dma
[12:33] <cemOzturk> lsuactiafner : use playstation :)
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> quake3 has open-source support now.. moves like its on fire.
[12:33] <Kumasan> lsuactiafner: yeah, but nethach is eternal
[12:34] <rexykik> can anyone see this?
[12:34] <vbgunz> Kumasan: open it right now... Type in "submarine" and tell me how slow is it to type out the word for you? Then try to replace the word with "aviation"... tell me, how slow is it?
[12:34] <jenda> Kumasan: about nnethack
[12:34] <DianWei> I tried "make install" and it says "make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[12:34] <DianWei> "
[12:34] <lsuactiafner> cemOzturk : i want to try openmosix clustering with my amd64 and ps3 i want to get
[12:34] <cemOzturk> rexykik : yes, carr on :)
[12:34] <Kumasan> jenda: yeah, it rocks
[12:34] <DianWei> Does this mean I messed something up?
[12:34] <cemOzturk> lsuactiafner : uuvvv hard stuff dude :)
[12:35] <lsuactiafner> cemOzturk : will be worth the effort..
[12:35] <Kumasan> vbgunz: it's pretty much instant for me, type in submarine in the text entry widget in the taskbar, and the entry comes up
[12:35] <lsuactiafner> cemOzturk : media encoding will be fun
[12:35] <william> nalioth, i'm playing the movies from the hard-drive as .avi
[12:35] <nalioth> william: dma affects all drives
[12:35] <william> ah
[12:35] <william> ok
[12:35] <lsuactiafner> right now it takes me 9hours on amd 3200+ to encode lord of the rings.. many options ect motion detection but still.. 9hrs is long...
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> especially @ nice -n -3
[12:36] <vbgunz> Kumasan: this is impossible... I cannot be the only one always from a fresh install of Hoary or Breezy experiencing this... I cannot believe it... Its always incredibly slow... Am I really the only one experiecing this?
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> libdvdcss-1.2.9.tar.bz2 finnally compiles
[12:37] <Kumasan> vbgunz: all I can say is that it's fast here. We are talking about the dictionary applet, right?
[12:37] <william> its already enabled but I added it to hdparm
[12:37] <pusling> should there be any problems in dual core machines ?
[12:37] <lsuactiafner>  sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh installs a very old version of libdvdcss
[12:38] <Ropechoborra> cemOzturk sorry, back to the dial up problem.. so you say it could be the conection with the port?
[12:38] <vbgunz> yes... Across four installs on two PCs it never fails to be just dead slow... Its faster to go to answers or dictionary.com search and close out there than it is with dictionary... *but* I don't need to file a bug report if I am the only one experiencing it...
[12:38] <prg_> To anyone:  What might cause Ubuntu to completely redo the networking settings (in particular /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:38] <Kumasan> vbgunz: are there any other network tasks that slow down like that?
[12:38] <vbgunz> i will assume something is wrong on my end since no one else has a problem
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> vbgunz : running the correct kernel?
[12:38] <agt> !dma
[12:39] <lsuactiafner> yeh might be dma problem.. slow disk
[12:39] <pusling> vbgunz: has time stopped ?
[12:39] <lsuactiafner>  00:47:57 up  1:04,  7 users,  load average: 0.93, 0.48, 0.30
[12:39] <vbgunz> I am on a fresh install of Breezy... Even on a fresh install of Hoary the Dictionary is just slow... I mean click on it in the menu and it pops right up... Try to enter a word and all hell in regards to slow takes place...
[12:39] <lsuactiafner> weeee...
[12:39] <DianWei> Oh snaps; there is an executable!
[12:39] <aarkerio> how many days takes the ubuntu package to come home?
[12:39] <aarkerio> I mean, ther Cds package
[12:40] <pusling> aarkerio: I got my hoary cds 3 weeks before release of breezy
[12:40] <DianWei> And it does what it's supposed to do, at least it seems so, it just doesnt move to a different directory.
[12:40] <P8ntKid> Why does fluxbox start so slow in ubuntu?
[12:40] <prg_> Does anyone have a clue what changes /etc/networks/interfaces?
[12:40] <DianWei> signius, thanks so much
[12:40] <pusling> prg_: that network configuring tool ?
[12:41] <vbgunz> lsuactiafner: I juse checked my kernel and I am running 2.6.12-9-386
[12:41] <cevizoglu> prg_, the "network" tool
[12:41] <vbgunz> pusling: time stopped?
[12:41] <aarkerio> pusling, thx
[12:41] <DianWei> One last question, probably even easier, after compiling the application, am I allowed to pu said application anywhere I want on the harddrive, and may I delete the source code?
[12:41] <pusling> vbgunz: I haven't backlogged what you have written. is it a all programs too slow-problem or is it a few applications ?
[12:41] <prg_> Okay.. so then if I write over the 'new' file with my old one I should correct anything done through that interface tool right?
[12:43] <Kumasan> vbgunz: Hm, I run it from the taskbar applet with no prob, but I just ran it from the menu, and there's a lag in the typing into the text widget. Not slow, but not instant. Try adding the applet to the taskbar and see if that's faster. If it is, I'd class that as a bug
[12:43] <Bonzodog> Ubuntu is fun on a laptop
[12:43] <NightLord> Can someone help me, I want to be able to use SSH to access a friends terminal to help him with his problems. How does he setup the ssh server on his side?
[12:43] <sizzam> !tell sizzam about spamassassin
[12:43] <vbgunz> pusling: everything seems to run fine... I mean logging into to some Windows networks is a bit slow but fast once they show up... All is good if not great... *but* the dictionary is the *only* application which when I try to type in the textfield is very slow and responsive... I mean I can type the word submarine in a second *but* it takes Dictionary about more than 5 to actually write it out... It's dead slow typing text into Dictionary.
[12:43] <Kumasan> Bonzodog: yeah, first distro that suspended out of the box on my Dell 8100
[12:43] <towsonu2003> is there an easy way to monitor the cpu temperature by using  the command cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature; I mean something like the system log (tried, did not work)? thanks.
[12:43] <Bonzodog> but research is ongoing to get it to just work on them
[12:43] <farruinn> sizzam: you can /msg ubotu directly
[12:43] <sizzam> thanks
[12:44] <manu__> hi
[12:44] <coz> hello all serious problem here
[12:44] <pusling> vbgunz: okay. I just had problems on some machines where everything was slow - even the clock.
[12:44] <NightLord> anyone?
[12:44] <dell500> does anyone know how to uninstall image gallery then reinstall?
[12:44] <manu__> anyone was able to use the AMD64 image?
[12:44] <nalioth> NightLord: he'll need openssh-server, and you'll need an account on his box
[12:44] <manu__> the live CD is broken so far
[12:44] <coz> If, in the user acount, i try to use synaptic or addprogram I get an error
[12:44] <vbgunz> Kumasan: I will try your recommendation now
[12:44] <Bonzodog> SysInfo: uname: Linux 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ 1004.906 MHz Bogomips: 1986.56 Mem: 638/998M  Diskspace: 152.37G Free: 147.35G Procs: 72 Uptime: 12 hrs 42 mins 7 secs Load: 0.06 0.52 0.53  | Vpenis: 7000000 cm Screen: nVidia Corporation GeForce 6200 (rev a1) Screen Resolution: 1280x1024 (24 bpp) eth0: In: 22.07M Out: 3.44M
[12:44] <NightLord> ok, is openssh-server installed by default?
[12:44] <pusling> NightLord: no
[12:44] <Kumasan> dell500: if you installed it via apt, then you can remove it via apt, (and give it the purge flag to delete all configs also
[12:44] <NightLord> nuts
[12:45] <coz> Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root:
[12:45] <NightLord> is it on apt-get?
[12:45] <coz>  Child terminated with 1 status
[12:45] <jenda> Seveas: remember bored2k a while ago asking about this guy who couldn't sudo?
[12:45] <pusling> NightLord: of course.
[12:45] <Kumasan> NightLord: not installed by default, but available
[12:45] <NightLord> ok
[12:45] <NightLord> so apt-get install openssh-server
[12:45] <dell500> Kumasan, how do you remove via apt?
[12:45] <vbgunz> Kumasan: nope... when you say taskbar you mean panel right? I tried both desktop and panel and tried changing permissions... Entering text is slow, I can't figure it out :(
[12:45] <ecletrik> Kumasan, would it help mentioning the drive reads CDROMs just fine?
[12:45] <pusling> dell500: apt-get remove
[12:45] <manu__> anyone know the status of the AMD64 ?
[12:45] <NightLord> just hope it works, its his apt-get hes having problems with :\
[12:45] <dell500> easy enough
[12:46] <farruinn> coz: I think you should run synaptic thusly: 'gksudo synaptic'
[12:46] <jenda> dell500: apt-get remove
[12:46] <coz> I get the same error
[12:46] <NightLord> gksudo? thats a new one
[12:46] <Kumasan> dell500: apt-get remove appfoo --purge
[12:46] <yi> any recommendations for a good cd ripping program?
[12:46] <NightLord> yi:music cd?
[12:46] <opti> how do i terminate my pppoe connection
[12:46] <opti> and then reconnect it ?
[12:46] <Kumasan> vbgunz: what locale are you using? maybe it's a slowdown in font redering?
[12:46] <NightLord> hello john
[12:46] <farruinn> NightLord: it's sudo for gtk apps
[12:47] <yi> NightLord: yes
[12:47] <NightLord> i see
[12:47] <yi> NightLord: i'm using grip with lame
[12:47] <NightLord> xcdroast i think
[12:47] <Var``> greetings everybody
[12:47] <yi> but the mp3 output is always just a couple bytes
[12:47] <Kumasan> ecletrik: might want to try booting a DSL or Knoppix disk "toram" and see if the problem is there too. If it isn't, then do a lsmod to get a modules list, and see if the modules for the drive and ide chipset are different.
[12:47] <Bonzodog> yi: you got xmms on there?
[12:47] <yi> Bonzodog: no
[12:47] <Bonzodog> you can use xmms to rip cd's
[12:47] <opti> how do i terminate my pppoe connection
[12:47] <vbgunz> Kumasan: I am in America... Using English... I tried changing Dictionary from all sources to a single source but am convinced the problem is not with the sources in which it'll search but the program itself...
[12:47] <opti> and then reconnect it ?
[12:47] <P8ntKid> Why does fluxbox start so slow in ubuntu?
[12:47] <Bonzodog> xmms is out of the box on ubunutu
[12:48] <dell500> what does this mean?
[12:48] <coz> Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root:
[12:48] <coz>  Child terminated with 1 status this is the error I get when trying to run synaptic in the user account . In the root account everything is fine
[12:48] <dell500>  * Forcing reload of web server  (Apache2)... (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[12:48] <dell500> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[12:48] <NightLord> in ubuntu there is a ppoe utility i think
[12:48] <manu__> Anyone aware of the status of the AMD64 architecture?
[12:48] <Kumasan> vbgunz: no, I mean the locale the computer is using, like us_en, ir UTF, or the like.
[12:48] <dell500> i used the command sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[12:48] <manu__> the image I burnt for the live CD is broken I think
[12:48] <Kumasan> vbgunz: IIRC, Ubuntu defaults to UTF
[12:48] <Bonzodog> manu__, I'm running it..it's stable, very stable
[12:48] <opti> how do i terminate my pppoe connection
[12:48] <vbgunz> I just don't know if it is my problem or a global problem and either no one reports it or if people are living with it... I am in the dark about it...
[12:48] <opti> and then reconnect it ?
[12:48] <prg> Okay, can anyone answer this for me:  I had my network setup so that eth0 and eth1 were NOT initalized at startup.  At home I use wpa
[12:48] <ecletrik> Kumasan, its just ide_cd
[12:48] <manu__> Bonzodog: I downloaded it today
[12:48] <NoUse> manu__ did you verify that the image was valid and not corrupt?
[12:48] <vbgunz> Kumasan: How do I find out?
[12:48] <NightLord> can someone tell john_ how to install openssh-server
[12:48] <manu__> and I keep on getting an error
[12:48] <opti> how do i terminate my pppoe connection
[12:49] <manu__> yes, the md5sum was correct
[12:49] <Bonzodog> manu__, did you do an md5sum on it after burning?
[12:49] <NightLord> please note: hes having a few issues with apt-get right now :\ because of me
[12:49] <NoUse> manu__ have you tried reburning it?
[12:49] <manu__> yep.. 2 different CD
[12:49] <NightLord> how did you burn it?
[12:49] <manu__> using k3B
[12:49] <opti> how do i terminate my pppoe connection
[12:49] <NoUse> manu__ what kind of CPU do you have
[12:49] <NightLord> anything else open?
[12:49] <Bonzodog> you need to check the md5sum after download and after burn
[12:49] <prg> ...supplicant to connect separately.  Here at work i tried to connect eth0 to a wired connection using the network manager and it completely reset my config (no wirless network anylonger and destroyed /etc/networks/interfaces... ?
[12:49] <hmrocha> hello
[12:49] <manu__> AMD64 on ACER ferrari
[12:49] <NoUse> manu__ what error do you get?
[12:50] <opti> how do i terminate my pppoe connection
[12:50] <hmrocha> my programs always segfault without core dumps, why?
[12:50] <Var``> hey... anyone in here with a dell 700m running 5.10? i am having some odd suspend issues.. where suspend only works once after a reboot.. any further attempts don't seem to do anything
[12:50] <manu__> well, during the install. it start but then during hardware detection it fails when rtrying to read from the CD
[12:50] <prg> So, I take it that network manager is NOT to be used for casually enabling or disabling networks at multiple locations?
[12:50] <opti> how do i terminate my pppoe connection
[12:50] <manu__> and it tells me that the CD might becorrupted
[12:50] <nalioth> prg: iwlist --help
[12:50] <Bonzodog> opti: please hold...
[12:50] <opti> ok..
[12:50] <vbgunz> Var``: not sure what *but* I bet you'll have to kill it with the task manager...
[12:50] <Bonzodog> we know you are there
[12:50] <manu__> I downloaded 3 times the image and burned it on 2 different CD and md5sum was correct
[12:50] <corvix> heio ... i wonder, in breezy my digicam shows all uppercase when automounted, while in hoary it was all lower?
[12:51] <Var``> whats the proc name?
[12:51] <vbgunz> Var``: I had the same problem with vmware and Rhythmbox
[12:51] <opti> sorry man.. i tot no one noticed
[12:51] <vbgunz> Var``: not sure :(
[12:51] <Var``> alright, i'll figure it out, i guess! :)
[12:51] <Var``> thanks for the help
[12:51] <NightLord> can someone tell john_ how to install openssh-server please
[12:51] <Kumasan> ecletrik: did it have the same problem in Knoppix or something other than Ubuntu?
[12:51] <vbgunz> Just ask and I bet it is running or sleeping...
[12:52] <manu__> so any idea what is going on?
[12:52] <StFS> will OpenOffice 2.0 packages appear in the default breezy apt repositories or will they stick with the 1.9something version that they had when they released?
[12:52] <john_> please, can you help this newb/idiot/ whatever you feel like calling me
[12:52] <Bonzodog> opti: do you need just to stop your ethernet connection?
[12:52] <NightLord> we were all starters at one point john
[12:52] <prg> nalioth: I can sucessfully turn on networking through the shell..no problem.  i tried to enable a wired connection using that manager in gnome (like I would using the networks panel in windows).. and it reconfigured everything.  Is that normal?  Doesn't seem so to me.
[12:52] <farruinn> StFS: I just install breezy from cd today - I have oo 2
[12:52] <opti> bonzo, yes
[12:52] <NoUse> manu__ maybe try burning the disc a slower speed
[12:52] <NoUse> manu__ 2x or 4x
[12:52] <ecletrik> Kumasan, I tried an older knoppix livecd and yes
[12:52] <StFS> farruinn: no you have a beta release of 2.0
[12:52] <Var``> one other quick question.. i was a bit surprised to be running a i386 instead of i686 kernel when i installed breezy.. how do i fix this?
[12:52] <GNULinuxGeek> Can anyone tell me how to get my flash drive to mount now that I loaded Breezy?
[12:53] <StFS> farruinn: or even a release candidate
[12:53] <manu__> humm Ok, I try that
[12:53] <Kumasan> ecletrik: then I am pretty  much out of ideas. Sorry
[12:53] <StFS> farruinn: check the about dialog
[12:53] <Bonzodog> opti, command for that: $sudo ifconfig etho down
[12:53] <manu__> when I open it it seems to read it fine
[12:53] <trinitrogen> On my fresh install of Breezy, theres an icon for my NTFS partition, but when I double click it I don't have the permissions to view it, what do I do about this
[12:53] <Bonzodog> *eth0
[12:53] <nalioth> prg: i usually plug my cat5 in to a off machine at a new place, and let dhcp do it's work
[12:54] <bimberi> Var``: install package linux-686 and reboot
[12:54] <corvix> how to change the mount options for the automounts?
[12:54] <ecletrik> Does anyone else have any idea why my DVD combo drive won't read disks?
[12:54] <manu__> the weird part is taht the live CD tries to access my harddrive when he complains about teh CD
[12:54] <Var``> thanks bimb
[12:54] <ecletrik> won't read DVD's*?
[12:54] <Bonzodog> var: you always get the 386 out of the box, there should be an option to download the 686
[12:54] <GNULinuxGeek> It does not look like there is even an entry in fstab for it
[12:54] <manu__> hey Ecletrick ,I got the same problem althgouh I using a CD on my DVD combo drive
[12:54] <manu__> it complains that the disc is corrupter
[12:55] <corvix> GNUlg ... doenst it automatically mount once plugged in?
[12:55] <Bonzodog> manu__, I think your disk is fscked for some reason...
[12:55] <Bonzodog> what speed are you burning it at?
[12:55] <GNULinuxGeek> It used to, on hoary
[12:56] <manu__> right now I am going to burn it at 4 or 6
[12:56] <DianWei> Quick question: I have a few things in my trash that I want to get rid of, but I may not because they are owned by root, is there a command I could sudo to empty the trash?
[12:56] <lsuactiafner> i get in dmesg
[12:56] <Bonzodog> I burnt the install CD at 16x
[12:56] <lsuactiafner> eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 01043:8141 bound to 0000:00:0a.0
[12:56] <lsuactiafner> eth1: Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter
[12:56] <lsuactiafner> but eth1 doesnt register..
[12:56] <lsuactiafner> 4926 ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.88 up
[12:56] <lsuactiafner> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[12:56] <manu__> what kind of writing mode should I use? DAO, TAO or RAW?
[12:56] <bimberi> DianWei: sudo rm ~/.Trash/*
[12:57] <DianWei> thanks, let's see if it works.
[12:57] <trinitrogen> farruinn: Its already mounted. I just need to know how I can use the shortcut that the install put on my desktop
[12:57] <Bonzodog> manu__, write it as an ISO
[12:57] <vbgunz> anybody have any ideas on how to improve the text field response for Dictionary?
[12:57] <Bonzodog> DAO I think
[12:57] <NightLord> does installing something of cvs automatically install the dependencies?
[12:58] <manu__> ok I am doing it
[12:58] <Bonzodog> NightLord, No
[12:58] <corvix> GNUlg: the usb behaviour changed for me too, now i get all uppercase files from my digicam
[12:58] <jenda> Coz needed your HELP and you didn't help him. Why did he need your help??? BECAUSE HE is EMPLOYED by a company to see if UBUNTU is a good alternative for their CLIENTS. That's how we LOSE OPPORTUNITIES
[12:58] <corvix> how to change the mount options for the automounts?
[12:58] <Bonzodog> it's classedas a source build
[12:58] <manu__> I just want to see how the ubuntu would work on my laptop before installing it
[12:58] <pluffsy> I just installed breezy and everything worked fine except the home icon and emacs icons doesn't work now. any ideas what to do?
[12:58] <manu__> and removing my debian
[12:58] <sizzam> anyone have spamassasssin working with evolution?
[12:58] <pluffsy> not that it's a big problem...
[12:59] <ubuntu_> i am using a live cd. and i mounted my hdd. when i try to write files, it says permission denied. how do i write files ?
[12:59] <jenda> Coz is now on #ubuntuforums, trying to get help from me and bored2k
[12:59] <Kumasan> vbgunz: looks like the slowdown is related to live lookups, but I don't think that's a feature that can be shut off. It still works faster for me in the applet though.
[12:59] <bimberi> DianWei: actually   sudo rm -r ~/.Trash/*   works better (works for directories too)
[12:59] <Bonzodog> jenda, sorry about that...so many people asking questions
[01:00] <vbgunz> Kumasan: when you mentioned earlier putting it in the taskbar... did you mean the panel?
[01:00] <corvix> which system does breezy use to automount usb-sticks etc?
[01:00] <Kumasan> vbgunz: yes
[01:00] <ubuntu_> i am using a live cd. and i mounted my hdd. when i try to write files, it says permission denied. how do i write files ?
[01:00] <woodwizzle> corvix, gnome-vfs
[01:00] <Kumasan> rt click, add application here
[01:00] <jenda> I care because I care about Ubuntu! (I'm a member of the Marketing Team. Coz is a perfect case of an important porson to help out)
[01:00] <vbgunz> Kumasan: oh ok, I thought you meant a desklet or something else...
[01:00] <P8ntKid> How do i install IMlib2?
[01:00] <Kumasan> vbgunz:  er, add to panel, sorry
[01:01] <Bonzodog> ubuntu_, you trying to write to an NTFS partition/
[01:01] <Bonzodog> ?
[01:01] <vbgunz> What are your permissions I am curious...
[01:01] <Neurosis> w00t, i got ubuntu installed now.
[01:01] <ubuntu_> no no .. its a fat32
[01:01] <ubuntu_> i have no idea. its a live cd.
[01:01] <Bonzodog> how did you mount the HDD?
[01:01] <corvix> woodwizzle: thanks, any idea how to change mounting parameters for that?
[01:01] <Neurosis> Whats a good mp3 player that will play via terminal?
[01:01] <ubuntu_> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1
[01:01] <Korio> hey guys how do i take a screenshot in xubuntu?
[01:01] <Bonzodog> as user?
[01:01] <vbgunz> Kumasan: mines are -rw-are--are--
[01:02] <Kumasan> Korio: prt screen works for me :)
[01:02] <Korio> lol
[01:02] <SomeGuy> looking for help here, i have a little computer here, with no floppy, no cd-rom, no pxe boot options. I'm wondering if I can do a net install off a usb key, 128Mb, and how i would do it
[01:02] <Korio> you have xubuntu?
[01:02] <Kumasan> vbgunz: ??
[01:02] <vbgunz> Kumasan: not sure why those got translated to ares
[01:02] <ubuntu_> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1
[01:02] <Marupa> ok, I've got this tablet that isn't a wacom.  I have windows drivers, but no linux drivers.  how would I install it?
[01:02] <NoUse> Neurosis mpg123 is areally basic one I'm sure about more advanced ones
[01:02] <DianWei> Heh, just chowned everything in my trashcan doing trashcan/*/*/*/*/*
[01:02] <NutterUK> hello can someone help me please?
[01:02] <vbgunz> where it says ares I think are are... GAIM seemed to change it OR IRC did it
[01:02] <vbgunz> -rw-are--are--
[01:02] <ubuntu_> bonzo.. what do i do now
[01:02] <DianWei> thanks guys, you've all been swell.
[01:02] <NoUse> NutterUK ask your question
[01:02] <Bonzodog> hrm....umount it, then do a sudo mount
[01:03] <vbgunz> not sure why its doint that
[01:03] <ubuntu_> i saved some html giles.. i haev to write them to hdd
[01:03] <Kumasan> vbgunz: permissions for what?
[01:03] <NutterUK> trying to install ubuntu - and while installing the packages it pops up with erros
[01:03] <NutterUK> errors
[01:03] <vbgunz> for Dictionary
[01:03] <Korio> If i installed an nvidia driver on one kernel
[01:03] <Korio> and then switched over to another one
[01:03] <vbgunz> 644 permissions
[01:03] <Korio> do i have to reinstall?
[01:03] <NutterUK> so i ignored the packages and now when it starts up it trys to install packages and does not move passed )5
[01:03] <Kumasan> vbgunz: totally lost me, what about perms?
[01:04] <corvix> woodwizzle: hmmm ... shure about that gnome-vfs thing? the stick gets mounted under /media/STICKNAME
[01:04] <ubuntu_> is there any way to copy files using command lines
[01:04] <the_white_rabbit> first forum name i get gets a referal
[01:04] <vbgunz> Kumasan: I will try gksudo gnome-dictionary to see if there is any difference
[01:04] <Bonzodog> Ubuntu: you don't know the CLI?
[01:04] <ubuntu_> whats a cli ?
[01:04] <hobbes_> I just did a clean install of 5.10 and I can't find the terminal
[01:04] <ubuntu_> whats a CLI ?
[01:04] <Bonzodog> the terminal
[01:04] <ubuntu_> yea the terminal
[01:04] <NutterUK> anyone got any ideas?
[01:04] <ubuntu_> how do i copy files using terminal
[01:04] <maxkelley> applications>accessories
[01:05] <Bonzodog> cp is the copy command
[01:05] <jenda> ubuntu_: command line interface
[01:05] <Marupa> Anyone able to help me install my tablet?
[01:05] <vbgunz> Kumasan: nope even slower :( I thought maybe permissions had something ddo with it being slow...
[01:05] <maxkelley> ubuntu_, cp <source> <dest>
[01:05] <hobbes_> thanks, maxkelley
[01:05] <maxkelley> np
[01:05] <manu__> you might want to add cp -r source dest
[01:05] <jenda> ubuntu_: cp something towhere
[01:05] <hobbes_> that's been driving me nuts
[01:05] <Kumasan> vbgunz: was it any faster in the taskbar as an applet?
[01:05] <ubuntu_> so is it like.. cp /tmp/*.* /new/
[01:05] <Bonzodog> right, that was my 10 minutes, it's gone midnight here
[01:05] <Bonzodog> bd. Night all
[01:06] <bimberi> hobbes_: you too eh? :)
[01:06] <NutterUK> can someone help me please with installing unbuntu?
[01:06] <NutterUK> ubuntu
[01:06] <vbgunz> Kumasan: no, it actually became unresponsive under gksudo and had to be murdered... Under the panel, the results seem to be the same
[01:06] <Marupa> what do you need help with, NutterUK?
[01:06] <NoUse> NutterUK what kind of errors do you get?
[01:06] <hobbes_> yeah, first actually functioning linux install
[01:06] <mAIJK> I copied a map from my NTFS disk to my ext3 ubuntu disk, i want to remove it but I cant, I have tried with this : sudo rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty  /home/maijk/Musik
[01:07] <NutterUK> when i am installing ubuntu it says it cannot install Packages due to eith corrupt CD or hd full.
[01:07] <vbgunz> Kumasan: oh wait up... I think I know what you're saying "applet" let me check if I know what you're saying
[01:07] <chicano-> !help
[01:07] <mAIJK> No error message but the map does not disapear
[01:07] <NoUse> NutterUK how big is your hard drive?
[01:07] <Marupa> and when did you burn/get the disc?
[01:07] <NutterUK> so i ignored the installation of the program packages (it was about 85%)
[01:07] <NutterUK> NoUse 60 gig
[01:07] <chicano-> !backports
[01:07] <Korio> how do i make a screenshot in xubuntu?
[01:07] <vbgunz> OH I know what you're sayting
[01:07] <NutterUK> Marup i burned
[01:08] <vbgunz> Kumasan: I got it, it is faster as an applet
[01:08] <Seveas> !java
[01:08] <ubotu> it has been said that java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-55315677ab8f9890825549fa2ecebdde4bc68087 and also see !javadeb
[01:08] <NutterUK> So when i start my PC i select Ubuntu and it sticks on 0%
[01:08] <vbgunz> Kumasan: I thought you meant add the launcher to the panel... I was bugging out but by adding the applet it is much faster and accpeting the text
[01:08] <NutterUK> is it something to do with the Ubuntu I downloaded?
[01:08] <Seveas> !no java is <reply> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[01:08] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[01:08] <Kumasan> vbgunz: yes, that's what I get, it seems slower via the full app, not sure why.
[01:08] <vbgunz> Kumasan: sorry I misunderstood you
[01:09] <Marupa> your burner might (but probably not) be dirty
[01:09] <NoUse> NutterUK how did you download the ISO?
[01:09] <NutterUK> NoUse yes i downloaded the ISO
[01:09] <Neurosis> i have mpg123.tar.gz downloaded, how can i get it to start running?
[01:09] <NoUse> NutterUK read carefully, I said how
[01:09] <vbgunz> Kumasan: OK, I have some bug reports to send in, thank you for helping make sure it is slow
[01:09] <NutterUK> oh sorry got it from the ubuntu web site
[01:09] <Kumasan> vbgunz: nb, glad to help even if it didn't solve the problem :)
[01:09] <NoUse> NutterUK did you check it with md5sum?
[01:10] <NutterUK> NoUse no how do I do that?
[01:10] <manu__> I got also my image for the AMD64 from different mirror today using bittorrent
[01:10] <mAIJK> I change to Swedish Keyboard but I cant still use the special chars we have in sweden. Why?
[01:10] <NoUse> !tell NutterUK about md5
[01:10] <Fearan> guys... i just updated from preview 5.10 to final 5.10... what's the difference really?
[01:10] <manu__> and have corrupted problem...
[01:10] <NoUse> NutterUK you should download using bittorrent as the image is verified for you
[01:10] <SEJeff> Fearan: Bug fixes
[01:10] <Fearan> kk
[01:10] <Neurosis> i have mpg123.tar.gz downloaded, how can i get it to start running?
[01:10] <Marupa> so, Anyone familiar with tablets in Ubuntu?
[01:10] <manu__> although MD5sum was correct
[01:10] <Fearan> thanks SEJeff
[01:10] <vbgunz> Kumasan: it's cool, this is better than before... I have more bug reports just with Dictionary it was different... It was persistent and i thought it was just a feature everyone is living with... Well, see what happens
[01:10] <chicano-> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:10] <chicano-> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:11] <chicano-> how to fix that?
[01:11] <NutterUK> right
[01:11] <cevizoglu> Fearan, better hardware support, more features, etc. etc.
[01:11] <manu__> chicano-: log as sroot
[01:11] <SEJeff> chicano-: Close synaptic
[01:11] <manu__> or use sudo
[01:11] <lsuactiafner> Neurosis : draconis here... you should use apt-get
[01:11] <NutterUK> SO you recommend I download using bit torrent?
[01:11] <Neurosis> how can i use it?
[01:11] <Marupa> it would probably fix the problem, NutterUK.
[01:11] <Mabus> can anyone offer some help with installing a geforce FX 5500?
[01:11] <SEJeff> chicano-: If you have "Add Applications " open and try to open synaptic, or if you have synaptic open and try to apt-get, etc. That will give you that error
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> Neurosis : apt-cache search mpg123
[01:12] <NutterUK> that md5sum will that work under windowes xp? thats what im using now
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> Neurosis : apt-get install whatever               search tells you
[01:12] <LjL> guys, just use aptitude, which has a sane dependency-removal behavior ;)
[01:12] <Neurosis> im lost
[01:12] <NoUse> NutterUK There is a way but I don't know how
[01:12] <Korio> I have installed Bittornado with apt-get how do i open it?
[01:12] <NoUse> NutterUK bittorrent is the best way to download images
[01:12] <Marupa> brb, gonna change my dns.  >.<
[01:12] <Neurosis> can you pm me lsuactiafner?
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> Neurosis : apt-get install mpg321
[01:13] <manu__> NutterUK, you will need to download the birnay tool for it if you don t have it
[01:13] <NutterUK> NoUse thats
[01:13] <manu__> but most burning program come with it
[01:13] <NutterUK> thanks
[01:13] <Neurosis> i dont get what you mean
[01:13] <NutterUK> manu i used Nero to burn
[01:13] <manu__> I think Nero does have an md5sum
[01:13] <Korio> I have installed Bittornado with apt-get how do i open it?
[01:13] <lsuactiafner> Neurosis : type apt-get install mpg321            in a terminal
[01:13] <Mabus> can anyone offer some help with installing a geforce FX 5500 please? It causes "kernel panic"
[01:13] <Neurosis> the whole file name?
[01:14] <Neurosis> or just mpg321?
[01:14] <lsuactiafner> just mpg321
[01:14] <Korio> I have installed Bittornado with apt-get how do i open it?
[01:14] <Neurosis> does it matter what directory im currently in?
[01:14] <LjL> "apt-get install mpg321", the file you have is useless, as mpg321 is in Ubuntu's software repositories
[01:14] <LjL> (or, better IMHO, "aptitude install mpg321")
[01:14] <nalioth> Korio: did you install bittornado or bittornado-gui ?
[01:15] <Neurosis> that makes sense ljl
[01:15] <manu__> NutterUK: try this http://www.nero.com/nero7/enu/Nero_MD5_Verifier.html
[01:15] <Korio> nalioth,  oops thanks :D
[01:15] <NutterUK> manu- thanks ill look at that now
[01:15] <jasongrieves> what package does the volume control panel?
[01:16] <sizzam> anyone have some advice on getting spamassassin to work in evolution
[01:16] <pluffsy> do you know what package I should install to make gaim use the new eh flash thing that applications can use when somethings happens. err.
[01:16] <yi> does mpg321 actually show the vbr information in vbr files?
[01:16] <jasongrieves> in gnome
[01:16] <pluffsy> I searched for gaim in synaptic, but nothing seems right...
[01:16] <Seveas> pluffsy, only in breezy that happens
[01:16] <SEJeff> pluffsy: gaim does use that
[01:17] <NutterUK> manu it does not have a link to download it
[01:17] <jasongrieves> gnome-volume-control i assume?
[01:17] <Korio> is there a good bittorrent client?
[01:17] <SEJeff> SEJeff: And that is a feature of gnome 2.12 aka breezy only
[01:17] <Korio> except for azareus
[01:17] <Marupa> if anyone has an answer for my question about tablets, or wants to ask me about it, PM me, please, gonna be afk for about ten minutes.
[01:17] <karl_> azureus
[01:17] <karl_> i use azureus
[01:17] <Korio> except for azareus
[01:17] <Korio> azureus*
[01:17] <karl_> uhh
[01:17] <karl_> bittornado
[01:18] <Korio> bittornado isnt all that great..
[01:18] <rexykik> yes it is
[01:18] <Korio> its decent but..
[01:18] <Neurosis> # apt-get install mpg321
[01:18] <Neurosis> Reading package lists... Done
[01:18] <Neurosis> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:18] <Neurosis> Package mpg321 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:18] <Neurosis> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:18] <Neurosis> is only available from another source
[01:18] <Neurosis> E: Package mpg321 has no installation candidate
[01:18] <rexykik> you can start your torrents in command line, in a screen. then you can remote in over ssh and check them in screen
[01:18] <Neurosis> didnt work
[01:19] <manu__> I am not sure then NutterUK
[01:19] <NutterUK> ok
[01:19] <arukirei> has anyone been able to enable the debian menu in Breazy... still trying to get it to work
[01:19] <shedi> Neurosis, apt-cache search mpg321
[01:19] <Neurosis> k hold up
[01:20] <manu__> I think there are many version of it on the net
[01:20] <manu__> als cygwin have that
[01:20] <manu__> look for cygwin (a linux layer for windows)
[01:20] <Neurosis> ok i did apt-cache search mpg321 and then it did nothing
[01:20] <Seveas> Neurosis, NEVER paste in here
[01:20] <Neurosis> oh sorry
[01:20] <Seveas> !info mpg321
[01:20] <manu__> http://www.cygwin.com/
[01:20] <ubotu> mpg321: (A Free command-line mp3 player, compatible with mpg123), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.2.10.3 (breezy), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 128 kB
[01:20] <NoUse> !tell Neurosis about mp3
[01:20] <Seveas> mpg321 is in universe
[01:20] <manu__> they will have for sure a command line to do that
[01:20] <Seveas> !tell Neurosis about repos
[01:21] <Tokenizer> hi, question regarding mp3 files.. by default, i can't play any mp3 files... what is the package for codec
[01:21] <Marupa> uh, this may sound kind of newbish, but, since I'm used to rmps, how do I install programs in ubuntu, just download them per-user?
[01:21] <Seveas> !tell Tokenizer about mp3
[01:21] <Seveas> Marupa, hell no
[01:21] <Tokenizer> seveas, i did that
[01:21] <Marupa> good.  >.<
[01:22] <Tokenizer> i did that first
[01:22] <Seveas> Ubuntu has giganti repositories, you don't need to search for packages anymore
[01:22] <Tokenizer>  . i did /msg ubotu mp3 ---- however that page doesn't load
[01:22] <Tokenizer> dns error
[01:22] <Seveas> !mp3
[01:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[01:22] <Neurosis> this didnt help me to install what i need
[01:22] <towsonu2003> I can't get the rss feed for the official security forum. using liferea, my link is to http://ubuntuforums.org/external.php?type=rss2&forumids=20 ... why? searched the forum but nothing helpful...
[01:22] <Neurosis> i just want to play music
[01:22] <pluffsy> Seveas, but I am running breezy?
[01:22] <Marupa> ok, so, is there a way to install like urpmi, and if so, how do I?
[01:22] <Seveas> towsonu2003, there is no such thing as an official security forum.
[01:22] <manu__> dman turned out that my CD got burned too fast and was corrupted... the AMD64 Is now working
[01:22] <NoUse> Tokenizer then you have DNS problem where you are
[01:22] <pluffsy> I only get that a window opens. not when I get a new message
[01:22] <LjL> Marupa: apt-cache search <name of package>      apt-cache show <name of package>     aptitude install <name of package>
[01:23] <jonny> when I put in a DVD and try to play it, this comes up: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3676
[01:23] <Seveas> Marupa, or: applications -> add applications
[01:23] <LjL> Marupa: sorry, actually in apt-cache search, you can search by description too
[01:23] <Neurosis> you can play mp3s on any linux
[01:23] <Neurosis> lol
[01:23] <Seveas> Marupa, or: system -> administratio -> synaptic package manager
[01:23] <Tokenizer> pinging "wiki.ubuntu.com" doesn't work
[01:23] <Neurosis> its just not installing the player
[01:23] <Tokenizer> times out
[01:23] <Neurosis> because i dont know why
[01:23] <NoUse> Tokenizer I can't get to it fine
[01:23] <Marupa> thanks, Seveas.
[01:24] <Neurosis> so please help
[01:24] <LjL> Marupa: or, you can use the Synaptic graphical interface, though personally I advise using aptitude, since it can remember what packages were installled "automatically" and remove them automatically, thus not cluttering up your machine with packages you didn't install
[01:24] <NoUse> Tokenizer can*
[01:24] <Seveas> Tokenizer, put the output of tracepath wiki.ubuntu.com on the pastebin
[01:24] <jonny> when I put in a DVD and try to play it, this comes up: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3676
[01:24] <Neurosis> can someone help me with mpg123?
[01:24] <NoUse> Neurosis be more specific than "its not working"
[01:24] <Neurosis> 321, whatever
[01:24] <Neurosis> i did
[01:24] <jonny> when I put in a DVD and try to play it, this comes up: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3676
[01:25] <Neurosis> i did the apt get thing and it wont work
 "its just not installing the player"
[01:25] <NoUse> Neurosis more specific!
[01:25] <jonny> anyone?
[01:25] <Neurosis> how can i be?
[01:25] <Tokenizer> seveas , no reply, no reply .. no replay (sub n)
[01:25] <NoUse> Neurosis give the error messsage
[01:25] <Seveas> Tokenizer, put the complete output on the pastebin...
[01:26] <Neurosis> i pasted it in but got in crap
[01:26] <jonny> can someone help me with playing DVDs
[01:26] <NoUse> !tell jonny about dvd
[01:26] <Marupa> ok, so, any ideas about my tablet?
[01:26] <Seveas> Neurosis, enable universe...
[01:26] <Tokenizer> that's it      imagine this        print $i." no reply" for $i (0...infinity);
[01:26] <Seveas> Tokenizer, no more output??
[01:26] <Tokenizer> yah
[01:27] <Tokenizer> well at the very end
[01:27] <Tokenizer> Too many hops: pmtu 1500
[01:27] <jonny> is libdvdread3 in synaptic?
[01:27] <Neurosis> enable universe?
[01:27] <Seveas> Tokenizer, put the complete output on the pastebin...
[01:27] <Neurosis> ehh?
[01:27] <Seveas> I ask that for a reason...
[01:27] <NoUse> Neurosis what error did you get when using apt?
[01:27] <cafuego_> johnny2: yes
[01:27] <prg> question: the multiverse repositories are the same as the 'backports' correct?
[01:27] <Seveas> prg, no
[01:27] <Neurosis> has no installation canidate, and it says some other crap.
[01:27] <cafuego_> jonny: yes, it is
[01:28] <Seveas> Neurosis, enable universe, ubotu gave you the information...
[01:28] <jonny> ok thank you
[01:28] <Neurosis> how do i enable universe?
[01:28] <prg> Seveas:  where can I find the urls to the 'multiverse' repositories?
[01:28] <NutterUK> thanks for you help everyone bye
[01:28] <Seveas> !tell prg about repos
[01:28] <NoUse> Neurosis ubotu sent you the info
[01:28] <kingright> hello all
[01:28] <Neurosis> uhh, they did?
[01:28] <Neurosis> when was i given this?
[01:28] <Tokenizer> wtf. after clicking on that link, my internet is not working
[01:28] <Neurosis> i dont recall anything
[01:28] <Tokenizer> well. fire fox isn't
[01:29] <Jemte> is there an option thats set by default to logout a user after a certain period of time
[01:29] <NoUse> !tell Neurosis about repds
[01:29] <NoUse> !tell Neurosis about repos
[01:29] <prg> Seveas: thanks.
[01:29] <bobabadabouskie> ok who wants to help an ultra newb w/ probably a simple answer
[01:29] <Neurosis> do i have to get a repository from a universe or something?
[01:29] <Neurosis> whaat?
[01:29] <Seveas> universe is a repository
[01:30] <Seveas> see www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[01:30] <Neurosis> do i have to download this?
[01:30] <NoUse> Neurossid did you even look at the intructions?
[01:30] <LjL> boba: just ask
[01:30] <Neurosis> someone just want to do a remote desktop?
[01:30] <bobabadabouskie> ubuntu not detecting my internal wireless, intel
[01:30] <LjL> ah, no idea
[01:30] <NoUse> Neurosis this really isn't that harrd
[01:30] <easy> hi just want to know how do i add a path in environment variables so when i compile it sees the directory? thanks
[01:31] <koala_man> how do I make the suspend (fn-f3) button on my compaq evo n800c laptop work? dmesg and xev shows nothing
[01:31] <Neurosis> why cant they just have it all in when you install the OS
[01:31] <PMantis> Any Ubuntu geeks that're gonna me in Montreal on Nov 3rd willing to look at this &#^$&$^#$ laptop ?
[01:31] <Seveas> Neurosis: the i-dont-want-to-learn instructions: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mpg321
[01:31] <NoUse> Neurosis because they can be sued for doing that
[01:31] <easy> hi just want to know how do i add a path in environment variables so when i compile it sees the directory? thanks
[01:31] <Korio> how do i open rar files?
[01:31] <Seveas> Korio, install unrar-nonfree from multiverse
[01:32] <Tokenizer> kk. got to that page... "sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_*.deb" --- produces --- "cannot access archive: No such file or directory"
[01:32] <Korio> thx
[01:32] <Neurosis> sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mpg321 i do this all in one command line?
[01:32] <Korio> Seveas, i can only see unrar-free
[01:32] <NoUse> Neurosis yes
[01:32] <Neurosis> k brb
[01:33] <nalioth> Tokenizer: * is a wildcard
[01:33] <Neurosis> its worrrking!
[01:33] <easy> hi is my question unworthy of this channel? :-(
[01:33] <Neurosis> thank you!
[01:33] <Tokenizer> ooh
[01:33] <grogoreo> hi
[01:33] <Korio> Seveas, i can only see unrar-free
[01:33] <easy> i'm a geek too! :-/
[01:33] <Kumasan> easy: export PATH=$PATH:newpath
[01:33] <jonny> will this work? "sudo apt-get install libDVDread3"?
[01:33] <easy> thanks Kumasan :-)
[01:34] <bobabadabouskie> does anyone know where to look for info on ubuntu not finding my wireless, i have googled myself to death, but that is probably what i will end up doing anyway
[01:34] <hobbes_> what chipset do you have, bobabadabouskie?
[01:34] <Kumasan> bobabadabouskie: what chipset
[01:34] <grogoreo> has anyone experienced any problems with the Gnome CD Player? I have Breezy now, but even in Warty and Hoary when it reached a certain track on a CD mainly track eight or higher it would carry on playing but the title would stay on the previous track
[01:34] <jonny> will this work? "sudo apt-get install libDVDread3"?
[01:35] <NoUse> !info libdvdread3
[01:35] <ubotu> libdvdread3: (Simple foundation for reading DVDs), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.9.4-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 52 kB, Installed size: 176 kB
[01:35] <NoUse> jonny probably
[01:35] <bobabadabouskie> intel
[01:35] <bobabadabouskie> far as i know
[01:36] <PMantis> Is there any way to get a list of every package installed on a system? Idea it to dump that to a text file, and make another install get all the same packages.
[01:36] <marcellus> bobabadabouskie: what does  dmesg   tell you about it?
[01:36] <Q_Continuum> I want to change my VT resolution, [Ctrl] +[Alt] +[+/-]  doesn't do it, is there another way to change this?
[01:36] <bobabadabouskie> dunno
[01:36] <bobabadabouskie> first i heard of it
[01:36] <Laz0r> can someone help me with mounting windows partitions?
[01:36] <Seveas> Q_Continuum, vga=773 as kernel parameter...
[01:36] <Seveas> Laz0r, breezy or hoary?
[01:36] <NoUse> PMantis dpkg -l does that with descriptions
[01:37] <grogoreo> Laz0r, have you tried mounting the windows drive?
[01:37] <Q_Continuum> Seveas recompile?
[01:37] <bimberi> PMantis: dpkg -l > file
[01:37] <Seveas> Q_Continuum, no, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and reboot
[01:37] <Q_Continuum> Ok.  Thanks.
[01:37] <Laz0r> how do i mount the windows drive, its a raid?
[01:37] <easy> hi Kumasan how about displaying the current value of path? thanks
[01:37] <bimberi> bah this lag NoUse :)
[01:37] <marcellus> bobabadabouskie: dmesg | grep -i intel   might give you something
[01:37] <PMantis> Cool... and play with awk to isolate the names... :)
[01:37] <bobabadabouskie> this came up during install, so i aborted, didn't want an os with no wireless
[01:37] <Kumasan> easy: as a general rule, echo $ENV will display the value of that env variable
[01:37] <grogoreo> Laz0r, well I know nothing about RAID so I don't know.
[01:38] <bobabadabouskie> can i locate the problem using the liveCD option
[01:38] <Kumasan> easy: (assuming BASH or equiv)
[01:38] <Seveas> bobabadabouskie, probably
[01:38] <easy> great!
[01:38] <Laz0r> how do i mount a windows drive?
[01:38] <Jemte> is there an option thats set by default to logout a user after a certain period of time [using breezy] 
[01:38] <Tokenizer> another question........ i installed activestate komodo in /usr/local/Komodo_3.1 ........ i run it once, then i close, ........ when i try to run it again, or shut down computer once and boot again, the Komodo_3.1 folder is empty and the "komodo" command at kernel says "can't find file" .... any clue why this is happening?
[01:38] <PMantis> Laz0r, use the mount command like you would with any other partition.
[01:39] <easy> i added the path to my env variable but when i compile my project it still doesnt see the files in the added path :-(
[01:39] <bobabadabouskie> kool
[01:39] <Kumasan> easy: did you do the compile from the same session you added the path elements in?
[01:39] <easy> yes
[01:39] <grogoreo> Laz0r, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[01:39] <Seveas> easy, compilers use other things than $PATH to determine where to look..
[01:39] <bobabadabouskie> if everything worked correctly, would i just be able to instantly get online
[01:40] <easy> i just type make
[01:40] <bobabadabouskie> no config
[01:40] <Kumasan> easy: then it's not the env that's doing it, it's the compiler or precomiler script that is.
[01:40] <Seveas> bobabadabouskie, well, depends on your network setup
[01:40] <grogoreo> Laz0r, you've got to change the /dev par and where you want to mount it
[01:40] <easy> ic i need to open the makefile?
[01:40] <bobabadabouskie> leching wireless
[01:40] <Kumasan> easy: are these libs or includes?
[01:40] <bobabadabouskie> thats my set-up
[01:40] <Seveas> shoulw work bobabadabouskie
[01:41] <easy> includes
[01:41] <Laz0r> when i try and mount it says "wrong fs type"
[01:41] <Seveas> easy, are these includes installed?
[01:41] <grogoreo> Laz0r, if you want it to mount every time you turn your computer on, you will need to add a line in your fstab
[01:41] <Kumasan> easy: add the dir to the makefile
[01:41] <grogoreo> Laz0r, hold on I'll try it
[01:41] <Laz0r> how do i had a line to in my fstab
[01:41] <Kumasan> easy: or do it via the ./configure script
[01:41] <grogoreo> Laz0r, edit it!
[01:42] <easy> that's in etc right?
[01:42] <Kumasan> easy: no
[01:42] <Laz0r> what do i add to fstab and how do i open it?
[01:42] <bobabadabouskie> but is there som kinda 'driver' that i may need to download, and if so how would i import it from winX ->UB
[01:43] <jasonb__> hey guys
[01:43] <Q_Continuum> Thanks Seveas.  Worked perfectly.
[01:43] <bimberi> Laz0r: Actually, give this a try - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:43] <grogoreo> Laz0r, well I've just tried the command it it worked. Firsty make sure you created the directory for it to be mounted to so go into /mnt and create a new folder called Windows
[01:44] <Kumasan> bobabadabouskie: some drivers simply aren't supported, others might be supported via ndiswrapper, but I have no experience with them.
[01:44] <Niomi> nalioth, /register is an unknown command?
[01:44] <bobabadabouskie> ndiswrapper?
[01:44] <WebLOCH> oreet
[01:45] <dererk> ping dooglus
[01:45] <Kumasan> bobabadabouskie: a way to use some MS drivers in Linux and other osen
[01:45] <jasonb__> i just helped a buddy install ubuntu and solve some issues w/ grub... we used a livecd to fix the grub issues.. and his USB mouse was working fine.. but when booted from the hard drive the mouse doesn't seem to work at all.
[01:45] <Seveas> bobabadabouskie, if your card is intel: don't worry
[01:45] <jasonb__> i'm sorry, it's a PS/2 mouse.
[01:45] <Neurosis> ok, how do i use mpg321 now? lol
[01:45] <jasonb__> not usb.
[01:46] <Kumasan> jasonb__: click on the ... er....
[01:46] <bobabadabouskie> seveas, y do i think u know more than u'r contibuting
[01:46] <marcellus> Neurosis: why not use xmms or some other player with a gui
[01:46] <Neurosis> ubuntu has xmms?
[01:46] <jasonb__> Kumasan, what's the problem
[01:47] <darkheart> Neurosis and bmp and mplayer and totem...
[01:47] <Neurosis> sheeeesh
[01:47] <Kumasan> jasonb__: in console, (ctrl alt F1) login, then do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-common
[01:47] <Neurosis> its already installed?
[01:47] <darkheart> Neurosis 'sudo apt-get install xmms' or whichever prog you want.
[01:48] <SEJeff> Neurosis: Try beep-media-player
[01:48] <SEJeff> Neurosis: It is a gtk2 fork of xmms that integrates much better into the rest up ubuntu
[01:48] <darkheart> bmp is nice, but xmms has been around longer and seems to have more functionality...of course I don't use either much ahah.
[01:48] <hobbes_> hey, I've got the new madwifi .tgz and I have no idea how to install it, can anybody help?
[01:48] <Neurosis> its working
[01:49] <Neurosis> is beep better than xmms on this distro?
[01:49] <SEJeff> Neurosis: beep > xmms on any distro
[01:49] <nalioth> hobbes_: untar it and read the README or INSTALL
[01:49] <WebLOCH> SEJeff, does it come with a panel like GXMMS?
[01:49] <Neurosis> i got xmms now
[01:49] <Neurosis> no worrys
[01:49] <bobabadabouskie> DSL gives me--- dmesg |grep -i intel= CPUO: intel pent II (klamath) stepping 03
[01:50] <Razor-X> SEJeff: you can pipe beep into xmms?
[01:50] <ecobuntu> can't you convert tgz w/ alien to a deb
[01:50] <darkheart> SEJeff Why do you think bmp is better?
[01:50] <bobabadabouskie> intel isa pcic probe: not found
[01:50] <SEJeff> darkheart: The beep lead devel tried sending patches to the xmms developers who refused them
[01:50] <Razor-X> darkheart: patches aren't always better
[01:50] <darkheart> SEJeff That's it?
[01:50] <jasonb__> Kumasan, anything after that or just start x back up?
[01:50] <Razor-X> errr
[01:50] <Neurosis> i got muuusic!!!
[01:50] <SEJeff> darkheart: Like xfree86 which died and was replaced by x.org... beep is a continuation of xmms
[01:50] <Razor-X> SEJeff: patches aren't always better
[01:51] <Kumasan> jasonb__: start back up
[01:51] <sizzam> anyone have spamassassin working with evolution?
[01:51] <ecobuntu> i would convert tgz to deb with alien then install
[01:51] <Kumasan> jasonb__: might want to copy the old one as a backup first
[01:51] <Razor-X> SEJeff: are you telling me we should have a deviant mutt that incorporates all the patches?
[01:51] <darkheart> SEJeff I can see it be better in the future, but xmms seems to have a lot more functionality at this point. I can't find anything that bmp can do that xmms can't...it just looks better.
[01:51] <SEJeff> darkheart: The xmms developers REFUSED any patches. Even ones that updated it to gtk2 without breaking anything
[01:51] <SEJeff> Razor-X: I am saying that the xmms devs are stupid in not accepting patches to improve
[01:52] <Razor-X> SEJeff: that's your choice *shrugs*
[01:52] <darkheart> SEJeff Well, I tend not to believe everything I hear, so I don't know if they did reject the patches or not
[01:52] <SEJeff> Razor-X: Just like the sodipodi devs. And so inkscape was born. Just like the xfree86 devs and so x.org was born
[01:52] <darkheart> SEJeff Even if they did, everyone has their own perspective.
[01:52] <SEJeff> darkheart: Neither do I, read the mailing lists
[01:52] <SEJeff> darkheart: Archives don't lie
[01:52] <Laz0r> how do i boot windows from another hard drive once linux is installed?
[01:52] <marcellus> no, they archive
[01:53] <ecobuntu> w/ grub
[01:53] <darkheart> SEJeff Well that's good you have facts then.
[01:53] <SEJeff> darkheart: And see this: http://www.sosdg.org/~larne/w/FAQ#How_did_the_fork_happen.3F
[01:53] <Razor-X> SEJeff: well, like I said, it's a perspective
[01:53] <SEJeff> darkheart: The xmms devs basicly said f* off we don't want your new functionality
[01:54] <SEJeff> darkheart: And xmms development is rather stale atm
[01:54] <jasonb__> Kumasan, thank you very much.
[01:54] <racookier> hi
[01:54] <Razor-X> I use ratpoison,  *I* think it's the best WM, others may not
[01:54] <darkheart> SEJeff You are digressing though...I was wondering what you liked about bmp over xmms and all you told me was 'the xmms devs refused patches.'
[01:54] <mjung__> Hi all. Where can I get info on wine for Ubuntu breezy?
[01:54] <Kumasan> jasonb__: did it help?
[01:54] <racookier> hi
[01:54] <Jemte> sheesh
[01:54] <ecobuntu> sudo aot-get install wine
[01:54] <SEJeff> darkheart: No I wasn't. The xmms devs don't want to continue with the OSS philosophy of evolve and conquer
[01:54] <ecobuntu> sudo apt-get install wine
[01:54] <bobabadabouskie> DSL gives me--- dmesg |grep -i intel= CPUO: intel pent II (klamath) stepping 03
[01:54] <jasonb__> works great
[01:55] <jasonb__> would you mind explaining, briefly, what that did? so i know for future reference.
[01:55] <racookier> someone knows how to add screen resolution to ubuntu (only detects one resolution)
[01:55] <Laz0r> eco, can you further explain to me about booting windows threw grub?
[01:55] <SEJeff> darkheart: And true to the OSS philosophy, the divided to conquer. Such was born beep
[01:55] <Kumasan> SEJeff: maybe they just didn't like those patches?
[01:55] <darkheart> SEJeff Huh? So basically you like it cause of the bmp devs' philosophy?
[01:55] <Razor-X> !tell racookier about resolution
[01:55] <Laz0r> through grub*
[01:55] <ecobuntu> did you install master boot record?
[01:55] <darkheart> SEJeff Forget it man...can't figure out what tangent you are going off on.
[01:55] <SEJeff> darkheart: I like beep because it isn't stale. xmms is. No real new functionality, no new ideas
[01:55] <infinito> has anyone had problems upgrading to breezy? it says to me to remove a lot of packages, including totem, ubuntu-desktop and more...
[01:56] <iratsu> what should i do if i want to change all the filenames in a directory to lowercase?
[01:56] <SEJeff> darkheart: If x.org wasn't forked from xfree86 because of the devs bureacracy, where would we be at now with the state of x and desktop linux?
[01:56] <Kumasan> infinito: are you using repositories outside of ubuntu? like marilat?
[01:56] <darkheart> SEJeff Okay, I can understand that. I didn't see anything that bmp could do that xmms couldn't, but I wasn't looking.
[01:56] <SEJeff> darkheart: devs that refuse good patches != good devs
[01:56] <iratsu> specifically, i want to change all files ending with JPG to jpg
[01:56] <darkheart> SEJeff Dude...who cares about xorg, I'm talking about xmms/bmp.
[01:56] <Kumasan> iratsu: use rename (perl script)
[01:56] <darkheart> SEJeff And that is a really generalized comment on devs.
[01:56] <SEJeff> darkheart: because it is the exact same principle that you are failing to see
[01:56] <infinito> Kumasan: not, i was using backports
[01:57] <Kumasan> SEJeff: what does beep do that xmms doesn't? I don't use either, so I don't know
[01:57] <mjung__> ecobuntu: dosnt work spits out a whol lot of messages here just the begining: Building dependency tree... Done
[01:57] <mjung__> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:57] <darkheart> SEJeff Why do you say I'm failing to see it?
[01:57] <Kumasan> infinito: that's the problem then
[01:57] <darkheart> SEJeff I'm asking the same thing that Kumasan just asked you.
[01:57] <darkheart> SEJeff But you feel the need to subject me to your point of view on developing software, which I don't give a rat's ass about.
[01:57] <SEJeff> darkheart: You are looking at it wrong... a better question would be "What does xmms do that beep doesn't?"
[01:57] <dominus> hello!!
[01:58] <SEJeff> darkheart: beep is evolving, it is gtk2. xmms is not evolving, nothing is happening.
[01:58] <SEJeff> darkheart: that is my point that you don't see
[01:58] <darkheart> SEJeff I don't care how it's phrased man...this whole time I've been asking some functionality and you haven't given me anything.
[01:58] <darkheart> SEJeff God....I SEE that already man, get off it.
[01:59] <WebLOCH> To be honest, i just installed Beep
[01:59] <WebLOCH> and overall it doesnt appear tyo be massively improved
[01:59] <Razor-X> SEJeff: is there anything else but ``future evolution'' in beep?
[01:59] <dominus> maybe i'm not an advanced user but i prefer beep.... because my ubuntu doesn't crash
[01:59] <WebLOCH> except perhaps the fact that it works with gtk2
[01:59] <Gasuza> i likes my xmms
[01:59] <SEJeff> darkheart: Open source software evolves quickly. That is the reason it is a better development model than closed source
[01:59] <WebLOCH> SEJeff, thats a bold statement
[01:59] <Razor-X> SEJeff: not neccessarily
[01:59] <Kumasan> SEJeff: not relevent, XMMS isn't closed source
[01:59] <cafuego_> That's why Rhythmbox is nice.
[02:00] <SEJeff> darkheart: Open source software that *doesn't* evolve is either perfect (non existant) or in need of new developers
[02:00] <WebLOCH> SEJeff, how many life-critical systems are developed as open source community projects?
[02:00] <Razor-X> SEJeff: that's not the reason I like OSS so much
[02:00] <yi> any german speakers around?
[02:00] <SEJeff> Kumasan: yes it is, because xmms development is stale
[02:00] <WebLOCH> yes
[02:00] <darkheart> SEJeff Just forget it man, I didn't sign up for the 'OSS is better cause bmp is OSS and xmms devs don't accept patches' lecture.
[02:00] <SEJeff> WebLOCH: Linux
[02:00] <sorush20> is there anything like share point services In open source form?
[02:00] <Kumasan> SEJeff: no, xmms isn't closed source.
[02:00] <racookier> my xorg.conf file contains the resolution sizes, but gnome only detects 640x480
[02:00] <WebLOCH> wievel taschengeld gehast du!
[02:00] <WebLOCH> SEJeff, its not a life-critical system
[02:00] <SEJeff> Kumasan: but the devs dont give a shit, that is the problem
[02:00] <kevogod> Take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:00] <mjung__> May I ask kindly again how to get wine for Ubuntu apt-get install wine does not work
[02:00] <darkheart> Okay, let's stop guys
[02:00] <sorush20> why can't I view some aspx pages on my firefox?
[02:00] <cafuego_> WebLOCH: Zwei deutschmark pro monat
[02:00] <darkheart> I just wanted a simple opinion and it spiraled out of control
[02:01] <WebLOCH> cafuego, you appear to know as much as i do ahaha
[02:01] <SEJeff> WebLOCH: ummmm dude. I am a Linux / Unix system admin. The stuff I work with (airline) is life critical
[02:01] <darkheart> This isn't #bmp or #xmms so let's knock it off.
[02:01] <SEJeff> darkheart: fair enough
[02:01] <cafuego_> WebLOCH: Ey?
[02:01] <dominus> any spanish speaker???
[02:01] <cafuego_> !es
[02:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:01] <racookier> (gnome don't detects monitor resolutions)my xorg.conf file contains the resolution sizes, but gnome only detects 640x480
[02:01] <darkheart> SEJeff And I do understand what you are saying man =) I just wanted something like 'oh you can do blah blah' or something.
[02:01] <racookier> si
[02:01] <Razor-X> I like OSS *because* it can fork, but I wouldn't give a project natural precedence for forking
[02:02] <Razor-X> plus, a lot of things appeal to niche categories, even if they wouldn't be profitable in mass
[02:02] <Razor-X> (ratpoison et emacs, par example)
[02:02] <SEJeff> darkheart: One last thing is that I *really* like gtk2 choosers. And I despise the older gtk1.2x choosers that xmms uses. It doesn't integrate into ubuntu
[02:02] <Razor-X> xzgv, for another
[02:02] <Tokenizer> still can't play any mp3 files.... tried to do as Ubotu said but that command is obsolute (according to message)...... installed k3b and k3blib and still couldn't play any mp3 files..... any other solutions?
[02:02] <darkheart> SEJeff Okay, cool. I'll take a better look at bmp when I get a chance. I didn't know about the dev situation.
[02:02] <Kumasan> Razor-X: everytime you use emacs, god gives carpal tunnel to a kitten...
[02:02] <WebLOCH> Tokenizer did you install the mp3 libaries?
[02:02] <Razor-X> !codecs
[02:02] <ubotu> it has been said that codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:02] <SEJeff> Tokenizer: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:03] <cafuego_> Tokenizer: k3b and k3blib aren't for _playing_ mp3s.
[02:03] <Tokenizer> ubunto
[02:03] <Razor-X> Kumasan: ok, I kill cats too, I have no remorse, really :P
[02:03] <marcellus> Hmm, I can't get gxmms to work with beep. It starts xmms instead.
[02:03] <SEJeff> darkheart: the bmp developer didn't want to fork. They were very rude and left him with no real choice. End of topic :)
[02:03] <remyforbes777> anyone know how to make xfce your default desktop
[02:03] <Razor-X> maybe I can even give a cat carpal tunnel syndrome *and( kill it in succession
[02:04] <Razor-X> awesome!
[02:04] <racookier> to play mp3 files add the universe and multiverse repositories in synaptic, then you will install totem-xine and the plugins needed (i work with this stuff this morning)
[02:04] <cafuego_> Tokenizer: Enable 'universe'.
[02:04] <Tokenizer> i installed anything that said Mp3
[02:04] <darkheart> SEJeff Haha =) good reason to fork. Anyway, I'm off work, headed home. Take it easy.
[02:04] <Kumasan> remyforbes777: should have that option when you login and select it for your session
[02:04] <hobbes_> I"ve untar'd the driver but it can't find the 'make' command
[02:04] <Tokenizer> cafuego, how do i enable universe
[02:04] <Razor-X> darkheart: BitchX :P
[02:04] <cafuego_> hobbes_: Which driver?
[02:04] <hobbes_> madwifi
[02:04] <hobbes_> for my atheros card
[02:04] <cafuego_> hobbes_: That's prebuilt, surely.
[02:05] <cafuego_> Tokenizer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:05] <SEJeff> Tokenizer: Open up synaptic and go to --> Settings --> repositories --> Add then check universe and multiverse
[02:05] <Razor-X> cafuego_: can you think of a reason why nbsmtp wil work if I manually give it mail, but won't work if mutt gives it mail?
[02:05] <hobbes_> well, if it is, fukd if I can tell
[02:05] <bimberi> Tokenizer: you need to do the stuff under "Codecs" on that page
[02:05] <target> Razor-X, parse error ?
[02:05] <SEJeff> Tokenizer: Then search in synaptic for gstreamer0.8-plugins. Install gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse. That will install mp3, divx, etc support
[02:05] <Mabus_> can anyone give me help with problems I've been having with my geforce fx 5500?
[02:05] <Razor-X> target: hmmmm?
[02:05] <target> Mabus, whats up
[02:05] <bimberi> Tokenizer: that is - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:06] <Mabus_> Well whenever I set it to use the card instead of onboard, using bios
[02:06] <cafuego_> hobbes_: The driver is in the 'linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)" package.
[02:06] <Mabus_> During boot it does "kernel panic"
[02:06] <target> Razor-X, it's just a quick guess but I've had a few times that program's don't work when they do it theirselves that it's some sort of parse error. Try 'strace' on it
[02:06] <WebLOCH> is  there an easy way to change my application menu icon ?
[02:06] <cafuego_> Razor-X: mutt uses the /usr/lib/sendmail command, does it not?
[02:07] <hobbes_> thanks
[02:07] <Tokenizer> gstreamer. thanks...
[02:07] <target> Mabus_, that doesn't look too good.. are you sure there is not hardware problem ?
[02:07] <Razor-X> cafuego_: you can also tell it to use something else, in my .muttrc I have ``set sendmail="nbsmtp'' and I give it the parameters I use to send mail to my smtp server of choice
[02:07] <Mabus_> Maybe a driver problem, but it was running on windows just fine.
[02:07] <SEJeff> Tokenizer: That should add mp3 support to gstreamer applications like rhythmbox, totem, etc. yw
[02:07] <target> Why is Ubuntu performing so slow btw. The previous release felt faster..
[02:07] <kevogod> WebLOCH, Applications > System Tools > Applications Menu Editor
[02:07] <Razor-X> target: why would it be a parse error, though?
[02:07] <cafuego_> Razor-X: The my guess is that's not getting parsed as it should.
[02:07] <target> Mabus,  that is very odd.. can you still use it in windows as of now ?
[02:08] <Razor-X> cafuego_: hmmm, any way I can remedy that?
[02:08] <Mabus_> Well I installed linux over it, there is no more windows.
[02:08] <target> Razor-X, cause it parses the commands you give to it, and maybe when it gets those from some other input (in this case another program) this is going wrong.
[02:08] <cafuego_> Razor-X: Why not just run postfix with a relay host, though?
[02:08] <SEJeff> target: What extra software did you install? Breezy is noticeable faster on my parents very slow computer
[02:08] <Razor-X> I'll run strace and see what can be done
[02:08] <target> SEJeff, just a base install with upgraded (Ubuntu) kernel and nvidia drivers
[02:08] <Tokenizer> and one more question.......  i installed komodo 3.5 .... into /usr/local ..... i ran it once, and it was fine........ now when i run it again, it says application can't be found..... i checked /usr/local/komodo_3.5 and it's actually now empty..... so i reinstall and all that..... run once, and exit the applicaiton..... when i close, then that folder is emptied again
[02:08] <Razor-X> cafuego_: because I need smtp authentication and TLS
[02:08] <target> nothing fancy.. really
[02:08] <cafuego_> Razor-X: Yes, postfix-tls does that just fine :-)
[02:08] <Tokenizer> komod is a Perl, php ide
[02:08] <Mabus_> target I only have linux on my system now, no windows
[02:08] <Razor-X> cafuego_: ahhh :P
[02:09] <Razor-X> cafuego_: well, nbsmtp is also pretty light
[02:09] <SEJeff> target: here is a script I wrote to speed up and tweak ubuntu out a bit http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/setup.sh Don't run it if you don't understand what it does
[02:09] <Tokenizer> Komodo*
[02:09] <target> Mabus_ I see.. your monitor does display something when running with the nvidia card enabled right ?
[02:09] <hobbes_> wicked, that's got it working, thanks cafuego_
[02:09] <cafuego_> hobbes_: cheers
[02:09] <target> SEJeff, thats very kind of you, thanks!
[02:09] <Mabus_> target: yes, how else would I know it was kernel panic? ;-)
[02:09] <Razor-X> cafuego_: I'll see what I can do, and if nothing works, i'll come back to postfix
[02:10] <SEJeff> target: yw
[02:10] <target> Mabus_, perhaps sound / sudden reboot or something. Just verifying.. I have no clue on how to fix this except try using a vanilla kernel, but I think you are.. right ?
[02:10] <Rev-Marc> I can't seem to play DVD's the players start up but when I try opening the disk they close with no warning
[02:11] <Mabus_> no clue, target, I'm a noob at this
[02:11] <target> What do you guys think about gconftool? I personally hate it..
[02:11] <target> Mabus_, if you don't know then you're probably running vanilla. Is there any other error message before the kernel panic? That might help in diagnosing the problem..
[02:12] <remyforbes777> kumasan: thanks
[02:12] <easy> does anyone here have experience installing openldap-2.3.7?
[02:12] <Mabus_> I'll try to replicate the error, hold on target
[02:12] <Tokenizer> anyone can help me with that question.. why would executing a program run it but after exiting, delete it ....... ?
[02:12] <target> SEJeff, some nice script you wrote up there m8 :)
[02:12] <Mabus_> actually target, I wanted to try something first
[02:12] <Mabus_> I downloaded the driver on this machine
[02:12] <Rev-Marc> when I try to open a database in openoffice it says "libhsqldb2 is missing" any ideas?
[02:12] <Razor-X> target: you have any ideas on *why* mutt is giving a parse error?
[02:13] <Mabus_> put it on a memory key to transfer to linux
[02:13] <Laz0r> On this "http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#addwindowsentrygrubmenu" it says " Assumed that /dev/hda1 is the location of Windows partition" what do i change if the partition is located somewhere else?
[02:13] <Mabus_> how do I install drivers?
[02:13] <SEJeff> target: I'm about to upload a huge update to it that tweaks out firefox too. I'll tell you when it's done if you want
[02:13] <ecletrik> Does anyone here know about DVD drives and getting them to work in Linux?
[02:13] <reiki> !tell reiki about deb
[02:13] <target> Razor-X, I have no clue whatsoever about your problem, I'm just saying that when it works when typed manually, and it doesn't when fed by another application, there could be a parse error invloved
[02:13] <Razor-X> yeah, 'nfortunately :(
[02:13] <target> SEJeff yeah that would be nice, though im not too frequent in this channel, i'll monitor the URL you gave me for anny change
[02:13] <Rev-Marc> I can't seem to play DVD's the players start up but when I try opening the disk they close with no warning
[02:13] <target> s
[02:14] <aeon17x> Mabus_: drivers for what>
[02:14] <aeon17x> ?
[02:14] <Maikeru> forgot I already had XCHAT open, heh
[02:14] <Razor-X> if things really don't work out though, I may just end up writing a shell script to monitor a temp file for changes that basically transposes my mail and sends it
[02:14] <target> Mabus_, you can install drivers for different things in different ways..
[02:14] <target> Razor-X, hehe.. thats.. just wrong? :)
[02:14] <Razor-X> target: :P
[02:14] <easy> i get the error "Berkeley DB not available" when i type ./configure installing openldap is this a diffrent software package that has to be installed first? thanks
[02:15] <Brozi> is it possible to install ubuntu with a small image file and letting it downloading everything else for you?
[02:15] <Mabus_> target: I have a .run file saved on my memory key, how do I use it?
[02:15] <Razor-X> well, all I have to do is set an FCC on every mail to a certain file, I can then make a shell script to do the rest
[02:15] <SEJeff> target: I meant like in about 2 minutes
[02:15] <pppoe_dude> hi all... i (think) i have a problem on my hands.
[02:15] <pppoe_dude> is there anyway to restore the original firmware on a printer after uploading a different one?
[02:15] <Rev-Marc> totem is saying it can not read title information on DVD
[02:15] <Laz0r> what do i add into grub if i want to boot from windows and the location of the partition is /dev/sda1
[02:16] <kingright> in need a program to wright iso files to disk and not k3b(it gave me err 225)
[02:16] <Laz0r> pppoe, is there a reset button on your printer?
[02:16] <Razor-X> kingright: Gnomebaker and Graveman are there
[02:16] <SEJeff> kingright: Try gnomebaker
[02:16] <target> SEJeff, that would be great! :D
[02:16] <target> Mabus_,  chmod +x the .run file and then do ./<file>.run
[02:16] <kingright> ty
[02:16] <Razor-X> or you can simply use cdrecord :P
[02:17] <Mabus_> target I'm a nooob, dumb it down for me please
[02:17] <pppoe_dude> Laz0r: it's an hp laserjet 1020.. would it have one? lemme look
[02:17] <racookier> the 855resolution pkg was not finded
[02:17] <RobGotti> anyone can help me with this question
[02:17] <bimberi> kingright: nautilus (right-click on ISO file, select write to CD)
[02:17] <reiki> I've found a .deb package made for Breezy Badger. Program name is GNUDoku (a Sudoku game). Apparently not in repositories. Is it possible to completely uninstall debs if they act weird?
[02:17] <kingright> right on
[02:17] <SEJeff> target: I just update it and now it fully tweaks out firefox too. http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/setup.sh
[02:17] <easy> how do i test if i have Berkeley networking routines installed? thanks
[02:17] <target> neat!
[02:17] <Razor-X> reiki: dpkg -r foo.deb
[02:17] <reiki> Razor-X, thanks
[02:17] <bimberi> racookier: running breezy? universe enabled?
[02:18] <Seveas> reiki, yes, but gnome-sudoku is in breezy and rocks
[02:18] <pppoe_dude> Laz0r: where would it be
[02:18] <pppoe_dude> ?
[02:18] <reiki> Seveas: you're my hero
[02:18] <reiki> :)
[02:18] <target> lol @ exit msg
[02:18] <Laz0r> pppoe, if there is one it is probably a small button on the back somewhere
[02:19] <Razor-X> hmmm, I know i'm being pedantic but, it's nice not to disrespect those from gender-dysphoria land
[02:19] <racookier> bimberi no hoary (universe enabled)
[02:19] <pppoe_dude> Laz0r, hmm, none that i can see... any other way?
[02:19] <Razor-X> mmm, anyways
[02:19] <Razor-X> nobody in #mutt is responding -_-
[02:20] <bimberi> racookier: iirc 855resolution is only in breezy :|
[02:20] <Ropechoborra> Hi!
[02:20] <target> 855resolution rocks for my laptop!
[02:20] <Ropechoborra> Question... what does kppp do?
[02:20] <target> probably some KDE PPP front-end.. guessing by the name?
[02:20] <Laz0r> pppoe: hold on, i'm looking...
[02:20] <racookier> ok, so now how to make gnome detect the resolutions of my monitor the link then don't work
[02:21] <pppoe_dude> Laz0r, thanks, well, I followed what it said on http://support.ideainformatica.com/hplj1020/ , but it prints out plurrs
[02:21] <Brozi> is there a net install I can use for ubuntu?
[02:21] <target> racookier, you need to put some link to the 855resolution program in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[02:21] <SEJeff> kppp = a dialup connection tool for kde.
[02:21] <pppoe_dude> blurrs
[02:21] <target> or some file like that.. read the 855resolution documentation (google)
[02:21] <jariep1_> hello all
[02:21] <target> if you run it before X starts, you can actually specify it in your XORG config file
[02:21] <target> hi
[02:21] <pppoe_dude> Laz0r, and the thing is, i havent tried it with the 1022 driver, which some websites hint is equivalent
[02:22] <target> SEJeff, I am assuming that I need to reboot for the changes in Gnome to come to full effect? (Or only login/log out?)
[02:22] <jariep1_> does anybody know if k3b is available on a live CD of ubuntu?
[02:22] <jariep1_> is there a ubuntu live dvd?
[02:22] <SEJeff> target: For all of the gconftool-2 changes, those are instant
[02:22] <pppoe_dude> jariep1_ google it
[02:22] <target> ok neat :) rebooting now to check out the new bootloader
[02:23] <SEJeff> target: wait a minute
[02:23] <target> SEJeff, oke
[02:23] <Laz0r> pppoe: sorry, I haven't found anything
[02:23] <Laz0r> but keep looking
[02:23] <pppoe_dude> Laz0r, k thanks
[02:23] <SEJeff> target: I'm not done with that script yet... it won't break anything, but it won't setup the boot loader with the picture yet
[02:23] <target> hey lol my GAIM Icon changed
[02:23] <racookier> my xorg has the correct resolutions but gnome only detects 640x480 60MHz
[02:23] <SEJeff> target: And it won't set the gnome splash image yet
[02:23] <Laz0r> can anyone help me add a windows entry into the grub menu?
[02:23] <target> racookier, then you need to run the 855resolution BEFORE STARTING X <sorry for uppercase>
[02:24] <SEJeff> target: It is pretty easy to do if you want me to walk you through it though
[02:24] <Razor-X> target: you don't use centericq?! :P
[02:24] <Razor-X> centericq was hellish to compile, mplayer's compile time beat it by 4 minutes
[02:24] <target> Ooh no that is not at all a problem, I can live without a fancy bootloader picture..
[02:24] <robertj^> if you want to have a voice chat with 3 or 4 people and record the audio, what's the best way to do it?
[02:24] <target> Razor-X, Nope, I prefer gaim :)
[02:24] <s3rp3nt>  anyone word on a php package with mysqli and mysql compiled into being release?
[02:25] <Razor-X> target: meh, that's useless for me, since I do most everything in a terminal emulator, and my WM makes it less fesible
[02:25] <SEJeff> target: you don't actually need to reboot for any of those changes
[02:25] <target> :) to each his own
[02:25] <target> SEJeff, oke, thanks!
[02:25] <target> let's see if I can notice the difference
[02:25] <SEJeff> target: but you might need to run sudo sysctl -p to reload the kernel tweaks I put in sysctl.conf
[02:25] <target> done
[02:25] <SEJeff> target: well the gconf-merge-tree will speed the gnome login by about ~7 seconds for me
[02:26] <s3rp3nt> how can i set per directory quotas instead of user based quotas?
[02:26] <target> let me check that.. brb!
[02:26] <ecletrik> does anyone know how to play an audio cd in linux?
[02:26] <target> whoah neat :D
[02:27] <target> but.. not to be lame or anything.. how stupid is <Insert whoever responsible for Gnome Login speed here> for not doing this by default? This makes it hella fast :D
[02:27] <pppoe_dude> nice.. i think i found it
[02:27] <pppoe_dude> (a way to reset firmware)
[02:27] <target> pppoe_dude, can you reset your firmware? thats a nice feature
[02:28] <racookier> so nobody knows how to add resolution under gnome ?
[02:28] <pppoe_dude> target, well its for a printer, and i cant reset it... but i can download originals from hp and upload the
[02:28] <pppoe_dude> m
[02:28] <target> SEJeff, thanks for the script mate :) The icon's didn't need to change really but thats ok I can change those myself.
[02:28] <Gasuza> anyone here play nwn?
[02:28] <target> SEJeff, I have a Arch Linux / Slackware -background so I'm not really used to optimizing stuff, thanks for pointing it out to me!
[02:29] <target> pppoe_dude, nice that the printer is not rendered useless
[02:29] <bimberi> racookier: there's this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:29] <target> racookier: I've told you several times how to add the resolution!
[02:29] <pppoe_dude> yes
[02:29] <racookier> bimberi: that package works for Breezy not for hoary
[02:29] <target> thanks bimberi !
[02:29] <pppoe_dude> lol
[02:30] <pppoe_dude> dammit... i can only download it as an exe
[02:30] <SEJeff> target: So I guess you understand a bit more than an average ubuntu user :)
[02:30] <pppoe_dude> i need to unzip it
[02:30] <SEJeff> target: Once I am done with it, I'm going to add a zenity based "gui" to it and post it on ubuntuforums
[02:30] <SEJeff> target: Maybe in a week or so I will be done
[02:30] <target> SEJeff, yeah I guess lol :) It's good to be back to such a nice IRC Channel again. I've been on chatjunkies #linuxhelp for ages but those people were really starting to annoy me hehe
[02:31] <racookier> bimberi - target : the xorg.conf contains the correct resolutions but gnome only works with one
[02:31] <target> racookier, you need to run 855resolution BEFORE YOU START X
[02:31] <target> do you understand the above message?
[02:31] <Ron_o> give us some time, target... hehe..
[02:31] <racookier> target : 855resolution don't work under hoary
[02:31] <SEJeff> target: It is really funny. Right now #ubuntu = 556 ppl; #fedora = 196 ppl
[02:31] <bimberi> target:  he is running hoary
[02:31] <hobbes_> how do I copy a file into a privliged directory in console?
[02:32] <target> SEJeff, yeah I was wondering about that some time ago.. how difficult is it to integrate some script into a GUI ?
[02:32] <racookier> sudo cp
[02:32] <hobbes_> thx
[02:32] <SEJeff> target: try this... zenity --info --text "Hello bloody world"
[02:32] <target> Cause I can script my way through linux, but it would be nice to make some sort of gui
[02:32] <target> neat.. does it return either 0 or 1 depending on user input (like a yes or no button)
[02:33] <dhpeterson> hi .. i have a problem booting breezy linux-image-amd64-k8-smp on a sunfire v40z (kernel crash on boot) ... where should I discuss this?
[02:33] <target> so you can catch it in Bash etc
[02:33] <pppoe_dude> is there any way to extract files from an EXE file? i tried unzip but it doesnt work
[02:33] <easy> guys what package name is Berkeley DB? it should be in the install disk that came with Ubuntu right? thanks
[02:33] <Gasuza> pppoe_dude, no...
[02:33] <target> pppoe_dude, is it a self-extracting zip file ?
[02:33] <SEJeff> target: take a look at the code in this script, it is a bash based gui using zenity: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[02:33] <pppoe_dude> target thats what it says ya
[02:33] <target> pppoe_dude, cause then you could just remove the header and open it as a normal zip file
[02:33] <SEJeff> target: yes it does
[02:33] <iiiears> SEJeff - lol - i had no idea that was there.
[02:34] <pppoe_dude> target k ill try
[02:34] <SEJeff> pretty cool what you can do with bash + zenity :)
[02:34] <SEJeff> And that guy only has mediocre bash scripting skills
[02:34] <easy> after installing using dpkg -i, do i have to run another command to update the system with the newly installed package? thanks
[02:35] <pppoe_dude> target how do i do that?
[02:35] <SEJeff> easy: no
[02:35] <iiiears> SEJeff - Are there any security concerns? - does it behave nicely with user restrictions?
[02:35] <pppoe_dude> target n/m ill figure it out
[02:35] <SEJeff> iiiears: Does what?
[02:35] <easy> what package name is BerkeleyDB then?
[02:36] <iiiears> SEJeff - what apps rely on it?
[02:36] <SEJeff> easy: try this dpkg -l | grep erkeley
[02:36] <SEJeff> iiiears: for zenity? nothing I know of bundled with ubuntu depends on zenity. I might be wrong though
[02:37] <iiiears> SEJeff - pretty cool still. - thanks for the nifty new trick. :)
[02:37] <pppoe_dude> haha
[02:37] <SEJeff> iiiears: I love open source. I learn something new every day
[02:37] <bimberi> racookier: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24923
[02:37] <pppoe_dude> i just figured out that this printer is a piece of crap, no wonder its cheap... if you unplug it it will reset the firmware...
[02:37] <pppoe_dude> haha
[02:38] <target_> hi SEJeff, my cable modem crapped out there, sorry bout that
[02:38] <dhpeterson> hi .. how can I find out who is the ubuntu maintainer for initramfs-tools package?
[02:38] <SEJeff> target_: thats cool
[02:39] <SEJeff> dhpeterson: view the changelog
[02:39] <target_> that zenity link you gave me is pretty cool.. I've tried some stuff after briefly going through zenity --help and it's really easy. This opens up whole new ways of writing scripts
[02:39] <dhpeterson> good idea ;)
[02:40] <bimberi> dhpeterson:  apt-cache show initramfs-tools | grep Maintainer
[02:40] <dhpeterson> yep
[02:40] <dhpeterson> that's what i just did .. don't know why i overlooked this
[02:40] <iceman> ok where would i got looking to fine where linux put Enemy terratory when It was installed ?
[02:40] <dhpeterson> i have found a bug in linux-image-amd64-k8-smp
[02:42] <Marshy> i need help onnecting to the internet with ubuntu any tips?
[02:42] <iceman> where Did Linux "Ubuntu" put Enemy Terratory when it installed
[02:43] <target_> probably just the command 'et' or 'wolfet'
[02:43] <racookier> thnx bimberi will try
[02:43] <target_> but I do agree that the current Ubuntu main menu (or gnome for that matter) misses a lot of applications
[02:44] <iceman> target_ want to put a shortcut to it on desktop ... how to locate
[02:44] <target_> enter 'wolfet' in the Command box
[02:44] <rain`> Ok, why is the caculator not giving an integer for the % operator, that is mod is it not?
[02:45] <iceman> well in terminal it runs from just "et"
[02:45] <target_> Automatix.. great piece of software
[02:45] <iceman> there a way to Locate where it is
[02:45] <target_> uhm yeah
[02:45] <target_> probly just type it in
[02:45] <target_> /usr/local/bin/et[tab]  to figure out if there is something there
[02:45] <iceman> wow "locate" a command i need to learn ...
[02:45] <target_> or wolfet for that matter
[02:46] <target_> iceman, yeah you can also use that.. but it's usually in /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin
[02:46] <sorush20> guys I can't write to my drive without haveing to sudo..
[02:47] <target_> sorsis, what kind of disk is it
[02:47] <target_> like.. local hard disk / remote share / nfs / etc
[02:49] <Chinstrap> sorush20, not being able to write to anywhere except /home/<yourusername> without using sudo is a FEATURE.  It is one of the things that prevents viruses on real operating systems
[02:49] <target_> lol I love that... 'real operating systems' :D
[02:50] <target_> guys, could someone enlighten me on what the correct position is to add your default gw? I've now written some custom hack in bootmisc.sh but this is clearly not the way it should be..
[02:50] <kbrooks> gw?
[02:50] <Chinstrap> gateway
[02:50] <target_> yeah.. is it /etc/network/interfaces ?
[02:50] <Chinstrap> target_, yes
[02:50] <theine> Hi, dmesg tells me "Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0" all the time. Does anybody know what's up with that?
[02:50] <hobbes_> .ping
[02:50] <target_> just put it there as an option? like 'gw <ip>' ?
[02:51] <Chinstrap> gateway <ip>
[02:51] <Chinstrap> 'man interfaces'
[02:51] <SEJeff> target_: man interfaces
[02:51] <target_> theine, it mean you pressed a key not registered by your current keyboard layout. This is probably some special key like volume etc
[02:51] <SEJeff> :)
[02:51] <target_> SEJeff, Chinstrap kb
[02:51] <target_> * thanks
[02:51] <majuno> hola
[02:51] <majuno> tengo un problema
[02:51] <rain`> In the gnome gcalctool, the modulus tool seems broken, when I do 9%4 it comes out with 0.36, when it should result in 1. Can anyone else check this for me?
[02:51] <majuno> acabo de instalar ubuntu en una laptop
[02:52] <SEJeff> majuno: #ubuntu-es
[02:52] <target_> Ubuntu is not quite like home yet hehe.. but it sure will once I finish installing Wolfenstein ET. Quake 4 runs incredibly nice here.. 5.1 surround sound even! :D
[02:52] <hobbes_> what's a good program for configuring wireless profiles on an atheros chipset?
[02:52] <majuno> y no me deja subir a 1024 pixeles la pantalla
[02:52] <target_> majuno, english please
[02:52] <reiki> !es
[02:52] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:52] <theine> target_, that could well be, thanks
[02:52] <majuno> sry
[02:53] <Chinstrap> rain`, % in gcalctool is actually percent, not modulo
[02:53] <robotgeek> rain`: the % stands for percentage, not mod
[02:53] <rain`> I thought it was mod :(
[02:53] <rain`> in the windows calculator is mod
[02:54] <target_> dont.use.windows.d0h.!
[02:54] <target_> now to register my nickname
[02:54] <rain`> I dont use windows at all, its just not the same...
[02:54] <e-sin> it hurts my heart a little every time i have to boot it :(
[02:55] <target> e-sin, hehe.. why do you ^need^ to boot it ?
[02:55] <robotgeek> rain`: try doing int(9/4)
[02:55] <escobar5> hello, i can't get my usb pendrive mounted, can you help me. For more information my HD partitions are in /dev/sda1 to /dev/sda5.
[02:55] <e-sin> flgrx wont work for me and s-video on my laptop is my only method of watching dvds
[02:55] <easy> hi what package name is Berkeley DB? thanks
[02:55] <e-sin> at least then i dont have to use it for longer than it takes to start the movie, though
[02:56] <robotgeek> escobar5: it should automount to /media/<label name> , if u use gnome
[02:56] <e-sin> im taking it to an install event next week to see if some guru can fix it  *fingers crossed*
[02:57] <sorush20> is there a kgimp around
[02:57] <targetx> I hope so for you, e-sin
[02:57] <escobar5> robotgeek, but it doesn't do you know why?
[02:57] <SEJeff> sorush20: no, thanks god :)
[02:58] <e-sin> me too.  if they can get that and wifi working, i can totally ditch windows and it'll make me so happy :D
[02:58] <marcellus> easy: apt-cache search ^libdb  | grep Berkeley
[02:58] <targetx> e-sin, I know the feeling! :D
[02:58] <Chinstrap> easy, what version do you want?  It will be libdb<version> (apt-cache search Berkeley)
[02:58] <targetx> I'm so glad my Audigy 2 soundcard works with full surround options etc.. just as good (if not better, cause I don't have to use those lame Creative drivers) as in Windows !
[02:59] <robotgeek> escobar5: try using pmount
[02:59] <rain`> robotgeek: does gcalctool even have a mod button? I need the remainder not the quotient. Of course, I could do it by hand, but im lazy right now.
[03:00] <SEJeff> rain: just use python
[03:00] <robotgeek> rain`: hmm, i am not sure. i do all my calculation in python
[03:00] <amonkey> i think it would be fun to hook up 3 computers that took turns turning eachother off in a circle
[03:00] <Chinstrap> rain: python<enter>9%4<enter>
[03:00] <z3r0x> hi @ all
[03:00] <targetx> rain`, http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=9%254&btnG=Google+zoeken&meta=
[03:00] <iiiears> !info UI::Dialog
[03:01] <rain`> See, thats what I think the % should do in gcalctool, modulus...
[03:01] <robotgeek> escobar5: pmount /dev/sda1 sda1 , not as root
[03:01] <targetx> google is your friend :)
[03:01] <escobar5> robotgeek, ok it works, but do you know why it is not automounted when i plug it in?
[03:01] <iiiears> Y-e-s,  Linux is so co-ol!    http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/zenity1.html
[03:02] <z3r0x> I can use fn + F5 or F6 to change the brightness. How can I set this kind of things for example I want to change the volume with fn+f4
[03:02] <SEJeff> iiiears: man zenity also works :)
[03:02] <robotgeek> escobar5: try System -> Prefs -> Removable Drives and Media. See if you have options turned off
[03:02] <Chinstrap> z3r0x, System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:02] <z3r0x> thx
[03:03] <sorush20> Chinstrap: that is the problem I don't know why but I can't wirte to my home /home/sam
[03:03] <targetx> SEJeff, this Debian Menu is way better than the gnome one :D
[03:03] <escobar5> robotgeek, no, it's ok.
[03:03] <robotgeek> z3r0x: if it keyboard shortcuts don't work properly, you might need to set your func key to work correctly.
[03:03] <SEJeff> targetx: ?
[03:03] <Chinstrap> sorush20, sudo "chown -R sam:sam ~sam"
[03:03] <robotgeek> escobar5: weird, try running gnome-volume-manager in a term
[03:03] <targetx> SEJeff, Automatix has an option for it.. it replaces your Gnome menu and it actually DOES show all your applications.. it's pretty good
[03:04] <z3r0x> what is 0xae ?
[03:04] <SEJeff> targetx: yeah, automatix is pretty nice
[03:04] <escobar5> robotgeek, ** (gnome-volume-manager:22617): WARNING **: manager.c/2199: already running?
[03:04] <robotgeek> z3r0x: single click on it, then press fn + f4
[03:04] <Chinstrap> z3r0x, 174
[03:05] <robotgeek> escobar5: hmm. kill it and run it again?
[03:05] <ssam> is anyone having trouble getting on the www.ubuntuforums.org site? is it down?
[03:05] <z3r0x> robotgeek, nothing happens when I press FN+F4... but fn+f5 and 6 are working
[03:05] <SEJeff> escobar5: sudo tail -f /var/log/messages
[03:05] <Chinstrap> ssam, pops right up for me
[03:05] <SEJeff> escobar5: then unplug it and plug it back in
[03:05] <robotgeek> z3r0x: does it still say the sam keycode with fn + f4?
[03:05] <ssam> host "www.ubuntuforums.org" finds the ip address. firefox and lynx wont connect to the site. even my router can ping the ip (64.21.33.9)
[03:06] <ssam> the rest of the internet works fine
[03:06] <SEJeff> ssam: can you access port 80?
[03:06] <SEJeff> ssam: on www.ubuntuforums.org?
[03:06] <airmikey_> yo guys i got this laptop its an..HP NC 60000....when i boot it on it ask for password ...how do i get into bios /
[03:07] <z3r0x> robotgeek, yes nothing happens when I press fn + something
[03:07] <ssam> SEJeff, is telnet 64.21.33.9 80 right?
[03:07] <Pablo_C> www.ubuntuforums.org works for me
[03:07] <nekostar> would anyone know of a package/program to change the desktop backgrounds in gnome automagically
[03:07] <Eddie> Im having a little trouble setting up PINE on ubuntu
[03:07] <SEJeff> ssam: that is one way. and then do this "GET / HTTP/1.0" and hit enter twice
[03:08] <ssam> SEJeff, its not getting past Trying 64.21.33.9...
[03:08] <Pablo_C> airmikey_,  I think you are in trouble
[03:08] <sorush20> I try to change the /home/sam forlder to owner can read write and edit but I get the message that some file in the subfolder is permission denied.. ?
[03:08] <escobar5> SEJeff, nothing
[03:08] <robotgeek> z3r0x: open up xev in a term, tell me the keycode you get for fn key. before that though, see if you can get a closer keyboard layout to your keyboard. System -> Prefs -> Keyboard -> Layout
[03:08] <Chinstrap> sorush20, okay, so what were you playing with as root?
[03:08] <sipayn> heyy
[03:08] <airmikey_> PABLO_C : NOTHIN I CAN DO
[03:08] <SEJeff> escobar5: that likely means that something is messed up with the drive
[03:08] <sipayn> I just installed ubuntu,, how do I install ASMN,, it's not in paket manager.....!!!!
[03:09] <robotgeek> nekostar: search on the wiki, it's there under eye candy or something
[03:09] <Chinstrap> sipayn, what is asmn?
[03:09] <SEJeff> escobar5: plug the drive in and do sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[03:09] <sipayn> amsn
[03:09] <robotgeek> sipayn: gaim works well :)
[03:09] <Laz0r> Can someone help me add a windows grub entry for a partition located at /dev/sda1
[03:09] <SEJeff> escobar5: that will list the partitons on it
[03:09] <sorush20> Chinstrap: I was not playing with root..
[03:09] <sipayn> whats gaim?
[03:09] <sipayn> is it msn?
[03:09] <nekostar> awesome robotgeek !!!
[03:09] <nekostar> thanx
[03:09] <Pablo_C> airmikey_, you can call hp support and see if they will give you the master code for that serial number machine
[03:09] <Chinstrap> sipayn, msn, yahoo, jabber, icq, whatever
[03:09] <escobar5> SEJeff, it is /dev/sdb1
[03:09] <targetx> sipayn, yes MSN is included
[03:09] <Ropechoborra> Quest. Got an onboard modem for a P4 PC Chips Mother... does ubuntu got drivers its configuration ?
[03:09] <sipayn> nice
[03:09] <sipayn> where do I find it
[03:10] <sipayn> I dont even know how to install anything on here
[03:10] <Chinstrap> sipayn, apt-get install gaim
[03:10] <ssam> does anyone here use tiscali as their isp? can you get to www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:10] <ssam>  ?
[03:10] <tristanmike> sipayn, installed by default
[03:10] <SEJeff> escobar5: ok, can you manually mount it?
[03:10] <z3r0x> robotgeek, I chose the swiss layout which is the correct one. xev shows nothing only when I press other buttons or move the mouse
[03:10] <Razor-X> do I need to save every single message in mule so it doesen't delete it by default?
[03:10] <sorush20> Chinstrap: I don't know what has happened but my home folder is suddenly not under my normal user control and I can only access it via sudo via the command line..
[03:10] <targetx> What would be a good FTP Client for linux? Support SSL connections, too.. ?
[03:10] <escobar5> SEJeff, yes
[03:10] <Razor-X> errr, not mule, but mutt
[03:10] <sorush20> Guys is there a linux certificate that I can get.. like the Microsoft one/
[03:10] <Chinstrap> sorush20, did the chown -R command work?
[03:10] <sorush20> ?
[03:10] <ssam> SEJeff, telnet says connection timed out
[03:10] <sipayn> K I'm downloading it now
[03:10] <robotgeek> z3r0x: no keycode when you press the fn button?
[03:10] <SEJeff> ssam: do sudo apt-get install nmap and tell me when it is done
[03:10] <Chinstrap> sorush20, there are several, LPI is the most well known, as well as RHCE
[03:10] <z3r0x> robotgeek, nope
[03:10] <Ropechoborra> sorush20 Linux certificate?
[03:11] <SEJeff> targetx: gftp from universe
[03:11] <targetx> SEJeff, and if I don't like gftp? are there any gui alternatives ?
[03:11] <z3r0x> it's very strange because f5 and f6 is working with the fn key
[03:11] <targetx> (except off course code my own 8-D)
[03:11] <robotgeek> z3r0x: that is weird, usually u should be getting something.
[03:11] <Chinstrap> targetx, Places->Connect to Server
[03:11] <SEJeff> targetx: nautilus. Go to file --> connect to Server
[03:11] <ssam> SEJeff, i have nmap, but if i can't even ping the site will it help? also will they mind being portscanned if it does
[03:11] <SEJeff> ssam: nmap -p 80 www.ubuntuforums.org will see if port 80 is open
[03:12] <SEJeff> ssam: if the answer is yes, it is likely you and not them
[03:12] <z3r0x> robotgeek, I also tried to press FN+F5 but xev shows nothing...but it changes the brightness
[03:12] <robotgeek> z3r0x: try fn + f4 in xev
[03:12] <SEJeff> ssam: or even nmap -sV -p 80
[03:13] <Chinstrap> ssam, tracepath www.ubuntuforums.org/80
[03:13] <z3r0x> robotgeek, I also tried to press FN+F5 but xev shows nothing...but it changes the brightness
[03:13] <ssam> nmap says no hosts up
[03:13] <targetx> SEJeff, is there any way that i can configure a secure connection through nautilus? I only want the Authentication to be TLS Secured, not the data/dir listing
[03:13] <sorush20> Chinstrap: what is that command do.. hence the fact that trying to become Linux certified and learn more?
[03:13] <GTroy> I have kubuntu-desktop installed, how do I start her up?
[03:13] <robotgeek> z3r0x: try the program showkeys in a non-x session
[03:13] <SEJeff> targetx: no, that is impossible and doesn't make much sense
[03:14] <z3r0x> robotgeek, there is a module "sonypi" which handel this things...but I don't know how to configure this
[03:14] <Chinstrap> sorush20, chown changes the ownership, -R means recurse, sam:sam says the user and group should be set to sam
[03:14] <ssam> Chinstrap, its got me 192.168.1.102, then lot of  no replies
[03:14] <robotgeek> z3r0x: no idea, powerbook here
[03:14] <Laz0r> Can someone help me add a windows grub entry for a partition located at /dev/sda1
[03:14] <Chinstrap> ssam, sounds like your firewall isn't letting you through or possibly your isp
[03:14] <sipayn> what are some good programs that are default on ubuntu
[03:14] <sipayn> that I can find in packet manager
[03:14] <sipayn> ?
[03:14] <z3r0x> robotgeek, showkeys is working
[03:15] <Chinstrap> Laz0r, title Windows<enter>rootnoverify (hd0,0)<enter>makeactive<enter>chainloader +1<enter>
[03:15] <targetx> damn.. Beep Media Player is total crap if you load more than 1000 files at once
[03:15] <ssam> Chinstrap, i have a linksys wireless router
[03:15] <typo_> hi
[03:15] <ssam> Chinstrap, but i can't see anything on it that would specifically block ubuntuforums, the rest of the web works
[03:15] <typo_> is the planet.ubuntu.com planetplanet template available somewhere?
[03:16] <robotgeek> z3r0x: the keycode for fn + f4 and f4 should be different. get the code, and put in in /etc/xmodmap.conf
[03:16] <PowerCat> hey!
[03:16] <Chinstrap> ssam, could be a routing issue between you and them
[03:16] <sorush20> Chinstrap: haveing looked at the man for chown shouldn't I use  Reference option instead..
[03:16] <ssam> Chinstrap, yeah, i might have a word with my isp
[03:16] <ssam> Chinstrap, thanks for the help
[03:17] <chaosblue> OK.  Every time I try to set a static IP for eth0, Ubuntu locks up.
[03:17] <Chinstrap> sorush20, "chown -R sam:sam /home/sam" would change the owner of everything under /home/sam to be sam
[03:17] <z3r0x> robotgeek, I found some files -> /etc/acpi/events/sony-brightness-down
[03:17] <Chinstrap> chaosblue, is your /etc/hosts correct?
[03:17] <chaosblue> If I try to use DHCP, the router and the box can't talk to each other.
[03:17] <robotgeek> z3r0x: no idea, you are on your own :(
[03:17] <GTroy> how do you get access privelages to a partition?
[03:17] <Eddie> DHCP is the spawn of satan
[03:17] <Chinstrap> chaosblue, and are your routes correct (route -n)
[03:18] <Laz0r> Thanks Chinstrap, I'm gonna go try now.
[03:18] <z3r0x> robotgeek, ok thx for help
[03:18] <robotgeek> z3r0x: np
[03:18] <chaosblue> Chinstrap: Routing table is empty.
[03:19] <Chinstrap> chaosblue, well, that would certainly mess things up
[03:19] <targetx> route add default gw <ip of gateway>
[03:19] <targetx> (as root)
[03:19] <defendguin> anyone know when flash8 is going to be released for linux?
[03:19] <targetx> defendguin, nope, sorry
[03:19] <sorush20> Chinstrap:I keep getting operation not permitted so I did sudo and now things are happy... :-) let hear it for Chinstrap.. hip hip
[03:20] <chaosblue> Also... my router is ipv4, all the hosts listed are ipv6.
[03:20] <kbrooks> defendguin: who knows?
[03:20] <sorush20> horay
[03:20] <PowerCat> i love ubuntu!!
[03:20] <chaosblue> I've tried adding to the hosts, but... nada.
[03:20] <targetx> you better!
[03:20] <PowerCat> i love you targetx!
[03:20] <targetx> w00t..
[03:20] <Rev-Marc> greetings all
[03:20] <PowerCat> i love you as a stuffed head above my fireplace! har har har
[03:20] <targetx> How are you PowerCat ? :)
[03:21] <chaosblue> Occasionally the system appears on my router, but it disappears almost instantly and can't be pinged, tracerouted, etc.
[03:21] <chaosblue> Nor can I do it from the system.
[03:21] <Rev-Marc> where can I get a repositories list for the apt-get config mine keeps reporting fail and not found?
[03:21] <chaosblue> Any idea what's going on?  This is the first time I've had a problem with any nix distro.
[03:22] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Rev-Marc about sources
[03:22] <mini> ubuntu-server problem,when i run apt-get install ..,it just can download the packages,but can't install.
[03:22] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: I tried your suggestion and i got an error saying something about an unsuported format
[03:22] <watnou> !ubuto sources
[03:22] <ubotu> watnou: What?
[03:22] <watnou> hehe
[03:23] <watnou> !ubuto sources.list
[03:23] <ubotu> watnou: What?
[03:23] <watnou> okay!
[03:23] <mustard5> ubotu: tell watnou  about sources
[03:23] <watnou> :)
[03:23] <watnou> tnx
[03:23] <mustard5> np
[03:23] <Chinstrap> Laz0r, "grep sda /boot/grub/device.map"
[03:24] <mini> ubuntu-server problem,when i run apt-get install ..,it just can download the packages,but can't install.
[03:24] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: "(hd1)   /dev/sda"
[03:24] <Rev-Marc> Thank you
[03:24] <Chinstrap> Laz0r, okay, this will be slightly longer...
[03:24] <Laz0r> Ok
[03:24] <mustard5> mini, can you paste your error messages in the pastebin plz?
[03:24] <mustard5> !pastebin
[03:24] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:25] <Razor-X> do I have to specifically save ever message in mutt so it doesen't get deleted?
[03:25] <mini> no error
[03:25] <Chinstrap> Laz0r, title Windows<enter>map (hd0) (hd1)<enter>map (hd1) (hd0)<enter>rootnoverify(hd1,0)<enter>chainloader +1<enter>makeactive<enter>
[03:25] <mustard5> mini, how do you know its not installed?
[03:26] <mini> my harddisk not work for a so long time.
[03:26] <GTroy> does anyone know a good vnc server app?
[03:26] <Hentai^sparc> can anybody point me to guide for mounting NTFS?
[03:26] <remyforbes777> hey guys , i am getting forbidden when i try to access my web page from apache
[03:26] <remyforbes777> is it something in my httpd.conf file
[03:26] <Xenguy> remyforbes777: permissions probably
[03:26] <Chinstrap> GTroy, System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[03:27] <GTroy> Chinstrap: many thanks
[03:27] <mustard5> mini, what are you installing?
[03:27] <remyforbes777> what permissions would i have to change
[03:27] <mini> apache and xfce4
[03:27] <Xenguy> remyforbes777: check file and dir permissions in your web staging area for example
[03:27] <remyforbes777> ok
[03:28] <mustard5> mini, can you paste what you are doing in the pastebin ?
[03:28] <Xenguy> remyforbes777: files have to be world readable
[03:28] <mustard5> mini, or in #flood
[03:28] <remyforbes777> you mean all my htm files have to be , or the /var/www directory
[03:29] <agt> is anyone here good with grub? I need to install an ide hard drive
[03:29] <mini> flood?
[03:29] <Xenguy> remyforbes777: files should be 644, and dir's should be 755
[03:29] <jonny> cyphase?
[03:29] <mustard5> the channel #flood
[03:29] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: ok, i'm going to try your latest suggestion
[03:29] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: thanks for your help
[03:29] <mustard5> you can paste text in #flood , mini
[03:29] <Xenguy> remyforbes777: please preface with my nick, tx
[03:29] <mustard5> mini, do you know how to join a channel?
[03:29] <Xenguy> remyforbes777: yes, /var/www and subdirectories
[03:30] <remyforbes777> xenguy : ok, thanks
[03:30] <Xenguy> remyforbes777: yw
[03:30] <mini> mustard5	maybe i have joined in flood.
[03:30] <mustard5> I see you
[03:31] <Hentai^sparc> anyone know how to mount a ntfs drive or have a guide for it in ubunut?
[03:31] <Xenguy> Hentai^sparc: google ntfs tutorial
[03:31] <Chinstrap> Hentai^sparc, you want it always mounted or just a 1 shot?
[03:31] <Hentai^sparc> 1 shot
[03:31] <Chinstrap> mount -t ntfs /dev/devname /mnt/mountpoint
[03:32] <pq> one question dvd-movies got any idea?
[03:32] <sipayn> how do I update gaim?
[03:32] <Hentai^sparc> Chinstrap will the allways mounted show up in w\e you use to browse the fs on ubuntu?
[03:32] <KinkoBlast> sipayn: sudo apt-get update gaim?
[03:33] <sipayn> huh?
[03:33] <Chinstrap> Hentai^sparc, no, if you want it to always show up you need to edit /etc/fstab, if you are the only user of the system or you don't care who can read the volume you need to add umask=000 to the options field in the fstab entry
[03:33] <Chinstrap> Hentai^sparc, otherwise it ends up only being readable by root
[03:34] <Hentai^sparc> fudge not good
[03:34] <Hentai^sparc> ok thanks
[03:34] <sipayn> what do you mean man,,, sudo??
[03:34] <watnou> Hentai^sparc: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -r -o umask=0222
[03:34] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: i got the error "ntldr is missing"
[03:34] <remyforbes777> xenguy: thanks that worked
[03:34] <KinkoBlast> What;s a good "cheater" graphical CVS client for Ubuntu? I just need to DL source from a server w/o cvsweb or the like
[03:34] <Chinstrap> Hentai^sparc, or what watnou said
[03:35] <Chinstrap> Laz0r, try getting rid of the map lines.  It's all dependent on how your disks were configured when you installed windows
[03:35] <sipayn> How do I update gaim to the new version
[03:35] <sipayn> ??
[03:35] <pq> need help and I got a answer right here google.ca have fun :)
[03:35] <Hentai^sparc> sudo apt-get update gaim
[03:35] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: what are the map lines?
[03:35] <Chinstrap> Laz0r, map (hd0) (hd1) etc
[03:35] <Xenguy> remyforbes777: yw
[03:35] <sun_> i love ubuntu
[03:35] <Chinstrap> Laz0r, or add them if you didn't before
[03:35] <PowerCat> Anyone has experience with installing the driver acx100 for DWL-650+?
[03:36] <pq> RTFM
[03:36] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: i added them earlier, so i should delete them all together
[03:36] <Chinstrap> Laz0r, yes
[03:36] <sun_> Powercat
[03:36] <KinkoBlast> sipayn: sudo apt-get update gaim
[03:36] <PowerCat> sun_
[03:37] <sun_> are you experience with powerpc development
[03:37] <PowerCat> sun_ I am not.
[03:37] <pq> Find out more at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ or take a look at some of the following:
[03:37] <pq>     * The Ubuntu Mailing Lists, where the community discusses new ideas and issues with Ubuntu.
[03:37] <pq>     * The Ubuntu Wiki, where we collaborate on the policies and strategy documents that define the direction Ubuntu will follow.
[03:37] <pq>     * Chat with the community on Freenode IRC Channel: #ubuntu .
[03:38] <sun_> powercat,you are a cat with power,ye
[03:38] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: so i should delete the map ones, and just leave "rootnoverify	(hd1,0)"
[03:38] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know what dapper's features will be
[03:38] <sipayn> KinkoBlast: I dont konw what you mean by that,, I've never used linux before
[03:38] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: yes
[03:38] <PowerCat> sun_ yes. but my power lies elsewhere.
[03:38] <GURT> wings
[03:38] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: thanks, i'm gonna go try that
[03:38] <sun_> that's good
[03:38] <KinkoBlast> sipayn: Do you know how to use terminal?
[03:38] <Lord_Maynoth> i guess thats a no
[03:39] <GURT> Lord_Maynoth: wings
[03:39] <KinkoBlast> !tell sipayn about cli
[03:39] <PowerCat> sun_: would you like a sample of my power?
[03:39] <Lord_Maynoth> ubuntu gives you wings? eh
[03:39] <GURT> wiiiiings
[03:39] <Lord_Maynoth> great
[03:39] <Chinstrap> are there any plans for an Ubuntu-SPARC?
[03:39] <sipayn> i never used it before no
[03:39] <KinkoBlast> What;s a good "cheater" graphical CVS client for Ubuntu? I just need to DL source from a server w/o cvsweb or the like
[03:39] <sun_> powercat:) i am not sure
[03:40] <Chinstrap> KinkoBlast: if you are just doing a download, what do you need a gui for?
[03:40] <KinkoBlast> Chinstrap: I have no f***ing clue how to use cvs.
[03:40] <varsedangger> hey i cn't get connected to the internet (firefox) it will connect me to ubuntu, then gnome.org somebodyt told me to do a and echo blah blagh nameserver blah blah  /  into a file but i cn't remember any of it
[03:40] <Chinstrap> cvs -z3 co :pserver:anonymous@cvs.host.name:/repository (or whatever authentication you were told to use)
[03:41] <KinkoBlast> chinstrap: Uhh......
[03:41] <PowerCat> sun_: if I was you, I'd say no.
[03:42] <Chinstrap> KinkoBlast: what source are you trying to download?
[03:42] <elephanthunter> varsedangger: You say that Firefox is not connecting to the internet?
[03:42] <KinkoBlast> Chinstrap: monologo from anon.go-mono.org
[03:42] <Chinstrap> KinkoBlast: more importantly, if you aren't capable of typing the cvs line I gave you to grab the source, are you going to be able to build it?
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> hahahahah
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> have you guys seen this
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> http://www.ubergeek.tv/article.php?pid=54
[03:42] <pq> firefox ?
[03:43] <sipayn> someoen guide me through how top update gaim
[03:43] <KinkoBlast> Chinstrap: Yeh. I'v just never used CVS before. Outside of turtlecvs on windows.
[03:43] <Hentai^sparc> sipayn open a terminal windows
[03:43] <Hentai^sparc> -s
[03:43] <maxkelley> say, has anyone gotten their cds from shipit yet? how long does it take on avg?
[03:43] <varsedangger> yes it is weird, i have the ubuntu starter page and it will follow the links ( i went to openoffice.org and it loaded but it then times out)
[03:43] <Hentai^sparc> than type sudo apt-get update gaim
[03:43] <varsedangger> --- ih have doen this for several other sites
[03:44] <sipayn> ok opened terminal
[03:44] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: this time i didn't get an error, it just idled at the booting windows screen
[03:44] <Hentai^sparc> sipayn now type sudo apt-get update gaim
[03:44] <elephanthunter> Lord_Maynoth: that was interesting...
[03:44] <Lord_Maynoth> haha yeah it was funny
[03:44] <NoUse> varsedangger the startup page is a local file so it doesn't need the internet to load
[03:44] <pq> Have fun ###@.net
[03:44] <maxkelley> ooooh, wait
[03:44] <maxkelley> I have a cool thing
[03:44] <NoUse> varsedangger how are you getting your IP address? DHCP?
[03:45] <elephanthunter> Lord_Maynoth: so, are you a supervillian?
[03:45] <Lord_Maynoth> no
[03:45] <Lord_Maynoth> LOl
[03:45] <Chinstrap> KinkoBlast: last I checked, mono doesn't use cvs, they use svn
[03:45] <sipayn> didin't work,, I'll paste what it said
[03:45] <maxkelley> stick the wrong end of a metal spoon about 2cm into your mouth
[03:45] <elephanthunter> Lord_Maynoth: :P
[03:45] <gildo> Is there an ap
[03:45] <gildo> app*
[03:45] <varsedangger> i connect with dsl  --- i set installed ubuntu for the first time last night
[03:45] <sipayn> sipayn@sipayn:~$ sudo apt-get update gaim
[03:45] <sipayn> E: The update command takes no arguments
[03:45] <sipayn> sipayn@sipayn:~$ c
[03:45] <gildo> for ubuntu so I can remote desktop to other window servers?
[03:45] <varsedangger> -- was using debian 3.1 before
[03:45] <KinkoBlast> chinstrap: "There have been no official releases made yet, so for now MonoLOGO resides in Mono CVS. The module is "MonoLOGO". The makefile is set up to use mcs but it is easily hacked to use csc -- I am still considering how to support both at once.
[03:45] <KinkoBlast> "
[03:45] <maxkelley> take your first joint from the fingernail and drum it against the back-top of the spoon
[03:45] <gildo> like windows Remote Desktop Connection?
[03:46] <maxkelley> the farther in the spoon is into your mouth, the higher the sound
[03:46] <NoUse> varsedangger you probably need to configure pppoe but I'm not familiar with that
[03:46] <elephanthunter> gildo: You could use tightVNC
[03:46] <twisted_maple> crimsun:  any thoughts on last night's awe64 attempts?
[03:46] <varsedangger> ok
[03:46] <KinkoBlast> chinstrap: Then "mono cvs" links to http://www.go-mono.org/anoncvs.html
[03:47] <elephanthunter> gildo: But I don't think there is anything for windows remote desktop in particular.
[03:47] <Hentai^sparc> sorry sipayn don't have any ideas of what to do.
[03:47] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: this time i didn't get an error, it just idled at the booting windows screen
[03:47] <chavo> gildo, there is krdc I don't know if there's a gnome equivalent though
[03:47] <sipayn> no it's ok
[03:47] <sipayn> thanks anyways
[03:47] <varsedangger> --- when i use a ubuntu live cd it does fine
[03:47] <chaosblue> Chinstrap:  Any time I try to modify the settings, Ubuntu crashes.
[03:47] <sipayn> I just dont know what I'm doing
[03:48] <gildo> hmm
[03:48] <gildo> nothing else?
[03:48] <chavo> gildo, are all the Windows boxes running xp pro?
[03:48] <varsedangger> can i jsut copy my configuration files over, if so which ones?
[03:48] <KinkoBlast> chinstrap: Never mind, I'll go try and wade through the CVS manual. Again.
[03:48] <gildo> no
[03:48] <sorush20> what program do I use to create regular HDD images for backup..
[03:48] <something_else> anyone have monodevelop0.8 deb?
[03:48] <gildo> theyre runnign win2k3
[03:48] <Chinstrap> Kingbahamut: cvs -z3  -d :pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.go-mono.org:/mono co monoLOGO
[03:48] <gildo> they have remote desktop enabled.
[03:48] <chavo> ok
[03:48] <Chinstrap> KinkoBlast: cvs -z3  -d :pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.go-mono.org:/mono co monoLOGO
[03:48] <agt> I installed ubuntu on sda1 (SATA drive). I'm now trying to connect an IDE drive with my data on it. However I get errors when I boot up...  can anyone help?
[03:48] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know what dappers goals are???
[03:48] <Chinstrap> KinkoBlast: but the cvs server seems to be down anyway
[03:48] <gildo> would  krdc work?
[03:49] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: don't know what to tell you, it's all a matter of what windows expects to find for a hard drive order.  It's not very resilient to things like that
[03:49] <chavo> gildo, works perfectly for me
[03:49] <dducko> !codecs
[03:49] <ubotu> somebody said codecs was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:49] <Laz0r> chinstrap: do you think reinstalling ubuntu would help?
[03:49] <twisted_maple> anybody out there have any luck with AWE64 install?
[03:49] <Chinstrap> chaosblue: any time you try to modify what settings?
[03:49] <KinkoBlast> chinstrap: Gah.... Thank's for the help. though
[03:49] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: ubuntu doesn't have  a problem, windows does
[03:50] <KinkoBlast> I'll try and track it down - you said maybe they had moved to svn?
[03:50] <gildo> I installed it
[03:50] <gildo> but the connect button is frozen
[03:50] <Chinstrap> KinkoBlast: according to the website they did
[03:50] <gildo> I inputted an IP
[03:51] <Laz0r> chinstrap: thanks for all your help
[03:52] <chavo> gildo, put the ip like this -> rdp:/computername
[03:52] <mustard5> what is the sudo dpkg-reconfigure command again anyone?
[03:52] <Chinstrap> KinkoBlast: svn co svn://svn.myrealbox.com/source/trunk/MonoLOGO
[03:52] <chavo> you can use vnc with krdc also, so you have to tell it which to use
[03:53] <Chinstrap> KinkoBlast: you might need to "sudo apt-get install subversion" first
[03:53] <budluva> dpkg --reconfigure package.blah
[03:53] <budluva> ?
[03:53] <Chinstrap> budluva: dpkg-reconfigure package
[03:53] <chaosblue> Chinstrap:  This time I just tried adding a host, and it gave me a child something error 187, nothing when I added the DNS addys, and locked up when I tried to configure the static IP.
[03:53] <mustard5> the one for xorg reconfiguration sorry
[03:53] <budluva> arr ok :P bit rusty with dpkg :P
[03:53] <theine> mustard5, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:53] <mustard5> theine, thats it ;)
[03:53] <mustard5> thanks
[03:53] <Chinstrap> chaosblue: what kind of network interface are you using?
[03:53] <Mr_Milenko> all my pages pass XHTML except the index when cute news is being read :'(
[03:54] <Mr_Milenko> XHTML validation*
[03:54] <theine> mustard5, xserver-xorg is an actual name of a package
[03:54] <mustard5> theine, will that redo the xorg.conf?
[03:54] <theine> mustard5, only if you haven't modified it manually
[03:54] <kevogod> Mr_Milenko, And this has to do with with...?
[03:54] <chaosblue> Chinstrap:  The router?  Netgear FM114P.  RTL8139-based ethernet card.  Cable modem.
[03:55] <Mr_Milenko> nothing :P
[03:55] <theine> mustard5, i.e. edited it
[03:55] <Mr_Milenko> just pissed
[03:55] <gildo> computer name?
[03:55] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[03:55] <elephanthunter> Mr_Milenko: do you send them as application/xhtml+xml
[03:55] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: would uninstalling linux all together allow me to boot into windows?
[03:55] <kevogod> If you don't, you are evil.
[03:55] <mustard5> k..I don't think we have theine
[03:55] <Chinstrap> chaosblue: /etc/init.d/networking restart locks you up?
[03:55] <kevogod> Use HTML 4.01 Strict if you don't send as application/xhtml+xml
[03:55] <chavo> or ip
[03:55] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: no
[03:55] <Mr_Milenko> elephanthunter: im learning as i go... i have no clue what your talking about lol
[03:55] <Mr_Milenko> im a beginner :)
[03:56] <Hentai^sparc> Laz0r getting missing ntldr?
[03:56] <Mr_Milenko> my next project is removing tables and using CSS
[03:56] <elephanthunter> Mr_Milenko: You are better off using HTML 4.01 Strict, like kevo said
[03:56] <theine> mustard5, even if you did, there's information in the header if /etc/X11/xorg.conf on how to get a fresh dpkg-reconfigured xorg.conf
[03:56] <mustard5> theine, if it was edited can you delete it and reconfigure..just courious
[03:56] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: no, it just idled at the booting windows screen
[03:56] <kevogod> Mr_Milenko, XHTML should be sent as application/xhtml+css if used.
[03:56] <mustard5> ah ok!
[03:56] <Chinstrap> Hentai^sparc: yes, and I gave him the ramap commands, but windows just hangs at the logo screen now
[03:56] <kevogod> Mr_Milenko, (MIMETYPE)
[03:56] <infinito> can anyone help me upgrading to breezy? i've got problems with sime packages....
[03:56] <KinkoBlast> your.mom.infected.us? Nice domain.
[03:56] <theine> mustard5, that'll probably work as well, but i'm not sure
[03:57] <chaosblue> Chinstrap:  Yep, knocks it dead.
[03:57] <mustard5> theine, I'll avoid that choice for now
[03:57] <elephanthunter> kevogod: application/xhtml+css?
[03:57] <KinkoBlast> (Mr_Milenko):your.mom.infected.us?
[03:57] <kevogod> err
[03:57] <kevogod> lol
[03:57] <kevogod> xml
[03:57] <Lord_Maynoth> Helloo......................................
[03:57] <Chinstrap> chaosblue: msg me your /etc/hosts and /etc/network/interfaces
[03:57] <elephanthunter> kevogod: :)
[03:58] <Mr_Milenko> KinkoBlast: my BNC's vhost
[03:58] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[03:58] <Hentai^sparc> chinstrap which os?
[03:58] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: is there a line i should of added after "makeactive" because i'm getting no error just not getting anything at all
[03:58] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know where I can find Dapper's Feature Goals... I have been looking on google to no avail.............................................................
[03:58] <Mr_Milenko> a buddy hooked me up on that one.. least "abusive" vhost i found in the list
[03:58] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[03:58] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: as long as you have makeactive and chainloader +1 you should be good
[03:58] <elephanthunter> That's one thing that really bugs me about these new XHTML folks. Using the wrong MIME type... gah!
[03:58] <Chinstrap> Hentai^sparc: some windows, probably xp
[03:58] <Mr_Milenko> on dial.. dont like NOT being on IRC :(
[03:58] <chaosblue> Chinstrap:  Will take a minute.  Still trying to boot after that last restart.  Stuck on "configuring network interfaces".
[03:58] <Mr_Milenko> elephanthunter: im learning still
[03:59] <Chinstrap> chaosblue: could be waiting for a dhcp timeout
[03:59] <kevogod> Mr_Milenko, http://hixie.ch/advocacy/xhtml
[03:59] <Mr_Milenko> elephanthunter: just started at web design
[03:59] <kevogod> Tables should still be used for tabular data.
[03:59] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: oh, im also getting "mounting local filesystems" failed during booting
[03:59] <elephanthunter> Mr_Milenko: Not you in particular. Just new people who can't admit they are doing something wrong.
[03:59] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: could that have something to do with it
[03:59] <Mr_Milenko> oh i know when im doin somethin wrong lol
[03:59] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: no
[03:59] <Mr_Milenko> it irritates the hell out of me..
[04:00] <elephanthunter> Mr_Milenko: I was thinking in retrospect of a experience I had with PunBB
[04:00] <gildo> thanks
[04:00] <gildo> it seems to work fine :)
[04:00] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: would using "root" instead of "rootnoverify" do anything?
[04:00] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: yeah, make it fail, since grub can't read ntfs
[04:01] <kevogod> elephanthunter, Well, XHTML 1.0 CAN be sent as text/html and it is not against the rules. Although 1.1 is out of the question. At least PunBB's site validates and is using strict. That can not be said about a lot of them.
[04:01] <KinkoBlast> subversion command lines are SO much mor readable than cvs
[04:02] <agt> I installed ubuntu on sda1 (SATA drive). I'm now trying to connect an IDE drive with my data on it. However grub gives me error 16 when I boot up...  can anyone help?
[04:02] <kevogod> elephanthunter, But a lot of sites have no reasont to be using XHTML except that it sounds cooler and is the 'latest'.
[04:02] <elephanthunter> kevogod: When you correct the PunBB MIME type it displays very differently
[04:02] <elephanthunter> kevogod: but I understand where you come from
[04:02] <Mr-Falkor> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82584 <--does anybody have a clue on this ?
[04:03] <kevogod> The W3C can sure be ambiguous.
[04:03] <Chinstrap> agt: grub now thinks your ide drive is drive0 instead of the sata, so it's looking at the wrong device, select the boot item from the menu and hit 'e', change (hd0 to (hd1 everywhere and then hit 'b' to boot
[04:03] <kevogod> It should be black and white. NO or YES.
[04:03] <elephanthunter> kevogod: Don't we all wish :)
[04:04] <Chinstrap> agt: if you aren't even getting that far you need to go into your bios and change the order of boot devices to make sure the sata drive comes up first
[04:04] <agt> Chinstrap, I understand :) I'll give it a go :)
[04:04] <Chinstrap> agt: it's entirely possible you'll just need to boot off a linux rescue disk, mount and chroot into your ubunto install and rerun grub-install
[04:05] <agt> Chinstrap, ok... thanks I'll try the BIOS trick first up
[04:05] <KinkoBlast> What does chroot do, anyway?
[04:05] <Chinstrap> KinkoBlast: CHange ROOT, basically jump into a directory and make that the new / for all further commands
[04:06] <Absenth> Long live 4bit color!
[04:06] <KinkoBlast> Chinstrap: Ah. Always wondered :-)
[04:06] <Chinstrap> KinkoBlast: you know, 'man' exists for a reason :)
[04:06] <KinkoBlast> Absenth: I'm partial to 2-bit myself
[04:06] <Korio> i need an archiver program that doesnt need gnome/kde
[04:06] <Absenth> KinkoBlast: I've got that on my other computer....
[04:06] <KinkoBlast> Chinstrap: Eh, I have this lazyness thing....
[04:06] <Korio> with a gui
[04:07] <Chinstrap> Absenth: you can have my 1 bit vector screen when you pry it from my cold dead hands
[04:07] <Absenth> KinkoBlast: although that's on a monochrome monitor...
[04:07] <Chinstrap> Korio: tar
[04:07] <Korio> does it have a gui?
[04:07] <Chinstrap> Korio: no
[04:07] <KinkoBlast> absenth: Wow, last time I saw a monochrome monitor i was looking at a laptop from 1990.
[04:07] <chaosblue> /mag Chinstrap # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
[04:07] <chaosblue> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
[04:07] <chaosblue> # The loopback network interface
[04:07] <chaosblue> auto lo
[04:07] <chaosblue> iface lo inet loopback
[04:07] <chaosblue> # This is a list of hotpluggable network interfaces.
[04:07] <chaosblue> # They will be activated automatically by the hotplug subsystem.
[04:07] <chaosblue> mapping hotplug
[04:07] <chaosblue> 	script grep
[04:07] <chaosblue> 	map eth0
[04:07] <Absenth> KinkoBlast works well in the server room on the mail server.
[04:07] <chaosblue> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:08] <chaosblue> auto eth0
[04:08] <chaosblue> SHIT sorry
[04:08] <JollyRoge> is there a way to go right to the CLI or terminal in Ubuntu, like not using X?
[04:08] <Korio> Chinstrap, you wouldnt happen to know a GUI program would you?
[04:08] <Chinstrap> chaosblue: Well, there's your problem right there, SHIT is not a valid keyword in interfaces
[04:08] <KinkoBlast> Absenth: I bet.
[04:09] <dducko> !restricted
[04:09] <ubotu> I heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[04:09] <Chinstrap> chaosblue: actually, your problem is the iface eth0 inet dhcp line, if you want a static IP that needs to read iface eth0 inet static
[04:09] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: yes
[04:09] <chaosblue> Chinstrap:  Obviously you haven't nursed and interfaced at the same time.  ^_~
[04:09] <Xenguy> ...
[04:09] <architect___> hi there guys
[04:09] <Chinstrap> chaosblue: and with any luck I never will, I'll leave that to my wife
[04:09] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: Ctrl-Alt-F3
[04:10] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: i added the raid my windows is installed on in the boot order in my bios and got "ntldr is missing"
[04:10] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: drop you to 'console' (from X)
[04:10] <pluffsy> mysql-server doesn't work since I upgraded to breezy. synaptic says there are dependency problems. can I somehow get more information from synaptic? any ideas what I can do? I sort of need mysql-server
[04:10] <JollyRoge> Xenguy: can I do this during the start-up?
[04:10] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: ah, you have one of those craptacular fake raids?  You need to do a whole lot of map lines then most likely
[04:10] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: yes...
[04:10] <JollyRoge> Xenguy: ok cool
[04:10] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: and are you SURE you didn't install Ubuntu onto half of your raid?
[04:10] <JollyRoge> Xenguy: thanks, I'll try that
[04:11] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: to do that, you need to de-activate/uninstall your *dm's (xdm, gdm, kdm, etc.)
[04:11] <Korio> Anyone know of a nice archiver program with a GUI?
[04:11] <KinkoBlast> Yay, MonoLOGO is working!
[04:11] <KinkoBlast> Sorta.
[04:11] <Chinstrap> JollyRoge: update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[04:11] <KinkoBlast> I think
[04:11] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: not 100% sure, but im pretty sure it is installed on my 40 gb ide drive
[04:11] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: Ctrl-Alt-F7 takes you back to X :-)
[04:12] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: what is the root of your ubuntu install?
[04:12] <Xenguy> !root
[04:12] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:12] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: how do i check?
[04:12] <JollyRoge> Xenguy: I can't get into X right now at all it seems, am I just screwed? heh
[04:12] <agt> Chinstrap, thx, bios settings changed and it worked.
[04:12] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: df
[04:12] <Chinstrap> agt: great
[04:12] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: what is the background to the problem?
[04:12] <pluffsy> and btw. when I installed kde kdm seems to the default display manager. but I usually use gnome. should I somehow change back to gdm? or does gnome always run under gdm automatically? also my computer won't wake from sleep now.
[04:13] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: "/dev/hdc1 "
[04:13] <Chinstrap> pluffsy: update-rc.d -f kdm remove; update-rc.d gdm defaults
[04:13] <JollyRoge> Xenguy: I tried to install a Nvidia driver, but for some reason it didn't work, and now it says there is some error with X, and it just goes back to the black screen, b ut I can't do anything
[04:13] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: wow...
[04:13] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: okay, so that IS an ide drive, so that's a good start, so what is on drive0 since windows is on drive1?
[04:14] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: well at least you know *why* you have a problem
[04:14] <JollyRoge> Xenguy: heh yeah I know..I can always just format the partition and start all over, heh
[04:14] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: did you just install recently?
[04:14] <JollyRoge> Xenguy: yeah, pretty recently, I won't really be losing anything
[04:14] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: how do i check? (sorry)
[04:15] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: I couldn't tell you, I'd have to be at your machine
[04:15] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: looks like you're covered then, if you can't fix what b0rk :-)
[04:15] <Demon_stroke> Need assistance, Anyone frimiliar with grub boot loader?
[04:15] <sun_> how to custom my ubuntu5.10,i want to reduce it to less 100M,then port to lite5200 board
[04:16] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda might give you a decent idea
[04:16] <JollyRoge> Xenguy: yeah, heh, I couldn't get the internet to work either hehe, I think I'm having bad luck with Linux
[04:16] <architect___> I've got an ASUS L5800 with wireless, so you guys know where can I get the drivers to put it to work in UBUNTU?
[04:16] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: if linux is new to you, you have to be patient cos it can take a little time to get up and running
[04:16] <sun_> hi ,
[04:16] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: "/dev/sda1" system "HPFS/NTFS"
[04:17] <ksmurf> hello all.I'm trying to install Seveas nxclient from the wiki and no go.....  I get /usr/NX/bin/nxclient: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:17] <ksmurf>  as the error.  I looked for the dep list but found none.  any ideas?
[04:17] <JollyRoge> Xenguy: yeah, it looks cool, its just confusing
[04:17] <sheb> what' wrong with blackdown java on breezy
[04:17] <chaosblue> Chinstrap:  Made the change to interfaces, still crashed.
[04:17] <Demon_stroke> Need help, Windows wont start with Grub boot loader
[04:17] <agt> what does it say Demon_stroke ?
[04:17] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: so sda is windows, which means it REALLY ought to be (hd0,0) in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:17] <sun_> anyone experience with customing ubuntu
[04:17] <ksmurf> Demon is win on the first parttion of the first drive?
[04:17] <Chinstrap> chaosblue: any error message in the crash?
[04:17] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: ok, so im gonna give that a try, brb
[04:17] <Demon_stroke> agt, it gives the commands, makeactive, chainloader +1, but then nothing happens
[04:18] <chaosblue> Chinstrap:  No, it locks up immediately after I hit enter.
[04:18] <JollyRoge> Xenguy: how do you uninstall Ubuntu?, can I just format the partition it is on?  is grubloader usually on the same partition?
[04:18] <Demon_stroke> agt, just sits there
[04:18] <architect___> Demon_stroke: what did you install first??? Windows or UBUNTU?
[04:18] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: very powerful; very rewarding; and also a fun time-sink ;-)
[04:18] <Demon_stroke> Windows was the Primary os
[04:18] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: get a good starter book if you have some bucks
[04:19] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: should i add the raid back into the boot order to?
[04:19] <JollyRoge> yeah that would be a good idea
[04:19] <architect___> Demon_stroke: what did you install first??? Windows or UBUNTU??
[04:19] <chaosblue> Chinstrap:  How do I set the static IP, gateway, and subnet mask without using the menu?  That's when it's crashing.
[04:19] <Chinstrap> Laz0r: you never should have taken it out, no wonder grub is confused
[04:19] <architect___> sozzz... wrong
[04:19] <ksmurf> anyone know about nxc;lient?
[04:19] <sun_> oh,my god
[04:19] <Demon_stroke> architect_, windows
[04:19] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: are you dual booting?
[04:19] <architect___> I've got an ASUS L5800 with wireless, so you guys know where can I get the drivers to put it to work in UBUNTU??
[04:19] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: ok, brb
[04:19] <JollyRoge> Xenguy: yes, just Ubuntu and Winxp
[04:19] <sun_> nobody reply me
[04:19] <Demon_stroke> architect___, windows
[04:20] <Chinstrap> chaosblue: edit /etc/network/interfaces, in another window or on another vc open 'man interfaces'
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> sun_, you never asked ...
[04:20] <sun_> how to custom ubuntu to less 100M
[04:20] <mhz> hip
[04:20] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: be cautious when installing the boot loader (GRUB by default) -- it has to go in not the usual spot IIRC
[04:20] <KinkoBlast> Do you hate me for useing a language created by Microsoft(C#)? I DO use Mono, not .NET Framework....
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> sun_, less than 100 m ? you sure you only got that small size ?
[04:21] <Demon_stroke> architect___, im pretty frimiliar with linux, i think that the location is set wrong, its set to (hd0,0). as far as i know that doesnt work and none others do either
[04:21] <Xenguy> JollyRoge: I managed to find a good solution that boot off the NT Loader (but that is a related issue I think)
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> sun_, really ... for small size ... try damn small linux
[04:21] <ecobuntu> how do i import a key for apt?
[04:21] <Chinstrap> KinkoBlast: I love C#.  Of course, I also love python, bash, php, postscript, objective-c, and I've been known to use perl, but it makes me feel dirty afterwards
[04:21] <mhz> How can I interact with applications in a different language than default english?
[04:21] <sun_> i want to port ubuntu to motorola lite5200 board
[04:21] <Xenguy> KinkoBlast: I don't hate you, but I might /ignore you ;-)
[04:21] <Topslakr> I'm getting a subnet declaration error with my dhcp server.. and one know how to solve this
[04:22] <architect___> Demon_stroke: try to reinstall everything but configure every partition by hand, in forehand, using fdisk
[04:22] <sun_> i want to know to how to custom ubuntu
[04:22] <Chinstrap> Topslakr: you have to have all of your networks defined in the config file, even if the definition says not to give out any addresses
[04:22] <KinkoBlast> chinstrap: Perl makes my head hurt. I use Lua sometimes though :-)
[04:22] <mhz> KinkoBlast: hating is no good. Freedom of choice is good.
[04:22] <SEJeff> sun_: Use matchbox as the default wm, not gpe
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> mhz, system -> admin -> language selector
[04:22] <Xenguy> Topslakr: quote the error, nevermore
[04:22] <architect___> only after that install windows on the defined partition ;)
[04:22] <Demon_stroke> architect___, im not going to reinstall
[04:22] <architect___> that way should work
[04:22] <KinkoBlast> mhz: Yeppers.
[04:22] <Topslakr> Chinstrap - I don't understand. ther is only one network. One interface
[04:22] <architect___> 2 bad then... try to instal another loader. like LILO or something :|
[04:23] <Chinstrap> Topslakr: then you possibly have a different subnet mask defined in the dhcp.conf file than what is on your interface
[04:23] <sun_> SEJeff ,what's matchbox
[04:23] <Demon_stroke> ill just figure this out myself, ty anyway architect___
[04:23] <sun_> what's wm
[04:23] <mhz> KinkoBlast: BUT.. do keep in mind that 'taking advantage' is no good either. I mean, if you use M$ stuff, please BE FAIR and pay their licenses. Otherwise, you are not doing good on any side
[04:23] <KinkoBlast> grr.... MonoLOGO's GTK console won't compile...
[04:23] <ssdd534> can anyone help me... im havin issues using ANY of the gui kernel configs
[04:24] <Laz0r> Chinstrap: i got "ntldr is missing"
[04:24] <sun_> can i use matchbox to custom ubuntu?
[04:24] <Topslakr> Chinstrap - ok, I'm sure I don't. I've just checked. The mask is 255.255.255.0 in both my ifconfig and the dhcpd.conf file
[04:25] <KinkoBlast> mhz: Heh. I use Mono's implimentation. But I agree. (Usualy. There was one license I was subjected to that make it technicaly agenst the law to run the program. I just ignored that little bit.)
[04:25] <sun_> SEFeff: can i use matchbox to custom ubuntu?
[04:25] <ssdd534> even make menuconfig fails
[04:25] <SEJeff> sun_: It is the wm that nokia hired a guy to workon full time. It is the wm that nokia uses for their linux phones
[04:25] <architect___> anyone??????? ------- I've got an ASUS L5800 with wireless, so you guys know where can I get the drivers to put it to work in UBUNTU??
[04:26] <ssdd534> can anyone help me... im havin issues using ANY of the gui kernel configs
[04:26] <SEJeff> sun_: It uses gtk2 and some gnome things: http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox
[04:26] <woodwizzle> I have a lot of images tagged in f-stop. I need to move a lot of them to a different directory though without losing their meta info. Is that possible?
[04:26] <chaosblue> Chinstrap:  OK, it didn't crash that time, but it did fail when I did /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> architect___, have you googled for it ?
[04:27] <bimberi> ubotu tell architect___ about laptop
[04:27] <bimberi> ubotu tell architect___ about wireless
[04:27] <bimberi> ssdd534: please be less vague and give us an error message to look at
[04:28] <dducko> Ok.. ive Installed the w32codecs, the Mplayer extensions...
[04:28] <dducko> but when I try to play a video in firefox
[04:29] <dducko> it wont play
[04:29] <ssdd534> can anyone help me... im havin issues using ANY of the gui kernel configs.... please help...
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> dducko, link pls ? i go try
[04:29] <dducko> .mov will crash the browser
[04:29] <Zuiden> you need a the firefox plugin dducko
[04:29] <dducko> i have it
[04:29] <Zuiden> hmm
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> ssdd534, have you read bimberi message to you ?
[04:29] <tristanmike> dducko, you have mediaplayerconnectivity?
[04:29] <dducko> it worked before with hoary
[04:29] <Zuiden> well .mov isn't a w32 codec dduck
[04:29] <Zuiden> o
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> pls give more details
[04:29] <dducko> umm huh
[04:29] <Korio> just use vlc
[04:29] <dducko> .wmv wont play either
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> .mov is quicktime
[04:29] <ssdd534> o sorry missed that
[04:29] <KinkoBlast> grr..... grgrgrgrgrgrgr......
[04:29] <ssdd534> one sec
[04:29] <sizzam> dducko:  for video, i use xine-ui,  install all codecs,  then in firefox install adblock and MediaPlayerConnectivity Plugin.
[04:29] <dducko> okay..
[04:30] <dducko> where would I get the quicktime codecs?
[04:30] <KinkoBlast> .wmv and .wma... I hate them... not even VLC can get the peices of shit to work.....
[04:30] <sizzam> dducko:  MPC plugin lets you specify the player you want to use for each movie type, then looks for embedded movies and turns them into an icon that you click to launch them into the player you chose
[04:30] <dducko> ahh cool.
[04:30] <ecobuntu> how do i make thunar my default file manager for xfce4?
[04:30] <architect___> wickedpuppy: got it mate... ty anyway... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> architect___, cheers :P
[04:30] <dducko> !quicktime
[04:30] <ubotu> well, quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about quicktime support
[04:31] <dducko> there is nothing about quicktime on that page.
[04:31] <chaosblue> Crap.  He's gone.
[04:31] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:31] <ssdd534> ok it says that i need to installncurses-devel for make menuconfig to work
[04:31] <wickedpuppy> ssdd534, then have you installed it ?
[04:31] <tristanmike> dducko, what's the video you can't see, let's have a link
[04:31] <ssdd534> cant find it in the repos
[04:31] <dooglus> ssdd534: try "make gconfig" instead
[04:32] <ssdd534> that dont work eather....
[04:32] <dducko> first one i could find heh..
[04:32] <dducko> http://www.pizazz.info/pizazz.mov
[04:32] <dducko> just testing for now
[04:32] <tristanmike> dducko, the quicktime codec is included in the w32codecs, I have no problem with quicktime, I watch the movie trailers from quicktime.com
[04:32] <dooglus> ssdd534: what failed?
[04:32] <dducko> thats what I thought  worked fine before
[04:32] <dducko> with hoary
[04:32] <tristanmike> dducko, It wants me to save it
[04:32] <ssdd534> says to make sure that GTK is installed proporly
[04:32] <dducko> mine opens in the browser
[04:32] <sizzam> dducko, tristanmike, same here, im saving and will attempt to open in xine with w32codecs
[04:33] <tristanmike> I have no problem watching it
[04:33] <dducko> im sure it will work..
[04:33] <sun_> SEJeff ,what's use of matchbox wm
[04:33] <dooglus> ssdd534: the ncurses libs are libncurses5-dev and libncursesw5-dev
[04:33] <cef> dducko: that wiki page doesn't specifically mention quicktime btw, which might confuse ppl
[04:33] <tristanmike> .......o...m....g....what is this video, is this a trick??
[04:33] <sun_> SEFeff: can i use matchbox to custom ubuntu?
[04:33] <dducko> i know.. i installed  w32
[04:33] <ssdd534> dooglus,  thanks
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> anyone having problem with planetmirror repo ?
[04:33] <dducko> its a hoorrible video
[04:34] <dducko> but its the first one i knew where was
[04:34] <dooglus> ssdd534: and the gtk lib is libgtk2.0-dev
[04:34] <mhz> wickedpuppy: .oO(what a nick you have) Thx, I am so used to Wmaker and Fluxbox that I forget that there are GUIS for such tasks.
[04:34] <tristanmike> dducko, I know it's offtopic, but, you my friend, are sick, :P
[04:34] <dducko> this is the error I getL  Totem could not play 'fd://0,.
[04:34] <SEJeff> sun_: matchbox is a window manager for an embedded environment like the motorola board
[04:34] <dducko> There is no plugin to handle this movie.
[04:34] <ssdd534> thansk you all
[04:34] <tristanmike> wickedpuppy, I was having problems a few days ago
[04:35] <dducko> i installed w32 codecs as intructed by the Wiki
[04:35] <dducko> (which that is different then the way Hoary did it isint it?)
[04:36] <sun_> that's good
[04:36] <dducko> http://media.putfile.com/TheFold-High
[04:36] <dducko> thats the wmv
[04:36] <paladinew> Hello all,  what program can I use to remote desktop into my ubuntu 5.10 machine from a XP machine ???
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> tristanmike, i still having problem ... nvm i disabled it
[04:36] <dducko> it will show me the first frame thats it
[04:36] <dducko> paladinew, Winvnc
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> mhz, cheers :P
[04:37] <dducko> google it.. or www.snapfiles.com
[04:37] <dducko> its in the free section..
[04:37] <sizzam> paladinew:  click on System > Preferences > Remote Desktop
[04:37] <cef> !quicktime
[04:37] <ubotu> well, quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support (via w32codecs), or see w32codecs
[04:37] <cef> much better
[04:37] <paladinew> dducko: I've looked at VNC, but  I can only find client software, nothing for serving
[04:37] <dducko> its in Ubuntu by default
[04:38] <dducko> vncserver
[04:38] <paladinew> how do access it?
[04:38] <sizzam> paladinew:  and then install tightvnc on your windows box
[04:38] <SEJeff> paladinew, System --> Preferences --> Remote Desktop
[04:39] <dducko> paladinew, http://www.snapfiles.com/get/tightvnc.html
[04:39] <dducko> for the windows machine
[04:39] <paladinew> dducko: thats great, let me look at that, thank you
[04:40] <dducko> then use the System-Preferences-> Remote Desktop to start the server
[04:41] <aeon17x> !real
[04:41] <ubotu> aeon17x: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:41] <aeon17x> !restrictedformats
[04:41] <ubotu> somebody said restrictedformats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:41] <maurycy> Hey. I bought PCMCIA D-Link Airplus 650+ wireless card and it does not work. After inserting the card, lights don't blink. I have installed Windows XP driver with ndiswrapper -i, ndiswrapper -l returns that hardware is present, but it changed nothing.
[04:42] <maurycy> Additionally, lspci returns that card is present either.
[04:44] <sun_> what's live cd
[04:44] <SEJeff> maurycy: enable the universe repository and install ndisgtk
[04:45] <SEJeff> It makes it easy to add and remove ndiswrapper drivers
[04:45] <mabus> live cd is ubuntu, except you don't need to install it on the HD
[04:45] <sun_> SEFeff: what's live cd
[04:45] <mabus> you can run it right from the cd
[04:45] <SEJeff> sun_: like mabus said
[04:45] <gildo> can someone help me with a mysql error?
[04:45] <mikal> What is the process for getting flash working on x86 Ubuntu?
[04:46] <dducko> !restricted
[04:46] <ubotu> I guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[04:46] <sizzam> mikal:  in firefox?
[04:46] <sun_> ok
[04:46] <dducko> its about halfway down there
[04:46] <mikal> Sizzam: Yes.
[04:46] <dooglus> how do I allow other users to send windows to my X display?
[04:46] <sizzam> mikal:   the simplest way ive found is to go to my website www.samlesher.com and click on the link to get the plugin, it works every time fo rme
[04:47] <dducko> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=wmv#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[04:47] <pppoe_dude> ok i give up on the printer
[04:47] <pppoe_dude> im gonna return it and buy the brother instead
[04:48] <mikal> Sizzam: It says no suitable plugins found. If I download the manual installer, it says it isnt compatible with x86
[04:48] <moot> i hate mp3 restrictions
[04:48] <sizzam> mikal:  weird, have you tried:   sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[04:49] <pppoe_dude> hey brother has a debian package too for their driver
[04:49] <pppoe_dude> nice
[04:50] <paladinew> dducko: when I go to system / prefs/ and run remote desktop, it tells me to connect to: "localhost.localdomain:0"  How do I set it up so I can access it from outside my home network ?
[04:50] <Kalidarn> do you think now that there is Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu (in the next release) they sometime plan on workong on a Bubuntu (BlackBox) and Fubuntu (Fluxbox)?
[04:51] <pppoe_dude> theres a xubuntu?
[04:51] <Kalidarn> no
[04:51] <mikal> Sizzam: After installing the package, sites dont show the "get pugin" but the flash doesnt show either
[04:51] <Kalidarn> there are some xubuntu-desktop packages
[04:51] <pppoe_dude> aha
[04:51] <Kalidarn> but its in the testing drake
[04:51] <grep> I have installed the xubuntu-desktop packages.  They work great
[04:51] <Kalidarn> ie the dapper drake repos
[04:51] <Kalidarn> yes do have i greb
[04:51] <sizzam> mikal:  thats odd, dont know the resolution for that on
[04:51] <Kalidarn> *grep
[04:52] <Kalidarn> but they aren't complete
[04:52] <pppoe_dude> slash pipe grep
[04:52] <dducko> Are you behind a router paladinew
[04:52] <Kalidarn> ad there isn't a install cd yet
[04:52] <paladinew>  when I go to system / prefs/ and run remote desktop, it tells me to connect to: "localhost.localdomain:0"  How do I set it up so I can access it from outside my home network ?
[04:52] <paladinew> dducko: yes
[04:52] <root> ubuntu-server how to start x?
[04:53] <dducko> You will need to forward the port it uses tothe machine
[04:53] <prg> I am new to using repositories to setup a linux system.  It seems that the ubuntu multiverse is still broken.  Are there replacements that offer similar packages?
[04:53] <dducko> i m not sure which that is
[04:53] <paladinew> k
[04:53] <sizzam> paladinew:  you have to know your IP, or have some sort of ip masker thing running like noip.com.   then you have to punch a hole in your firewall to allow traffic on port 5090.  Then you connect via ip:5090
[04:53] <paladinew> trying
[04:53] <dducko> ahh there you go
[04:54] <sizzam> paladinew:  correction, the port is 5900 for the first vnc display
[04:55] <pppoe_dude> i can think of a nice logo for xubuntu
[04:56] <aeon17x> !restricted
[04:56] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[04:57] <lightstar> hi..does anyone know how to change the mouse scroll speed in gnome?
[04:57] <pppoe_dude> so why do i think that people shouldn't hate linux because it's hard to install harware on, but they should hate the companies that make it hard for us to install
[04:57] <sizzam> lightstar:  System > Prefs > Mouse > Motion tab
[04:58] <lightstar> sizzam:thanks :)
[04:58] <W[i] zzard> ;)
[04:58] <W[i] zzard> hows it
[05:00] <j-linux> Does anyone here use Quanta on Ubuntu?
[05:00] <paladinew> dducko: where do I actually launch the remote desktop service in ubuntu ?
[05:00] <paladinew> dducko: I can see where to edit the settings, but not launch it
[05:00] <dducko> when you enable it its on
[05:01] <dducko> i believe
[05:01] <sizzam> correct
[05:01] <dducko> the first checkbox
[05:01] <lightstar> sizzam : is it possible to change the mouse wheel speed?
[05:01] <Maikeru> night people
[05:01] <Maikeru> gonna go eat ice cream (maybe) and fall asleep...RAWR!
[05:02] <sizzam> lightstar: i was afraid thats what you meant :-)
[05:02] <hajiki> do blackberrys work on ubuntu?
[05:02] <sizzam> lightstar, im not sure how to do that
[05:02] <comradevik> hi, i want to know how i can run fullscreen games with dual monitor
[05:02] <lightstar> sizzam : :)..yeah i've been trying to find out how to do it but to no avail myself:)
[05:02] <Tido> new to linux + ubuntu, what should I use as my apt-get sources? apt-get install xmms doesn't work
[05:03] <dducko> !repos
[05:03] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[05:03] <dducko> try those
[05:03] <sizzam> lightstar:  here's how to adjust it in firefox:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59705&highlight=mouse+wheel+speed
[05:03] <Xenguy> hajiki: gah! crackberries are nightmareish corporate albatross devices, completely propietary, er, Evil ;-)
[05:03] <Tido> <3 you
[05:03] <paladinew> dducko: ok, I was able to connect using my wondows pc on my network.  my question now is how would I access from outside the network since I have a router ?
[05:03] <hajiki> Xenguy, i agree w/ you, but when your job provides u with one what can you do :(
[05:03] <lightstar> sizzam:thank you:)
[05:03] <dducko> the port would have to beforward tot hat that machine
[05:04] <sizzam> lightstar:  yw :-)
[05:04] <W[i] zzard> any kylix / delphi devs here?
[05:04] <Xenguy> hajiki: you demand extra income, that's what you do
[05:04] <dducko> and you just connect to your ip
[05:04] <hajiki> Xenguy, thats what got me the blackberry LOL
[05:04] <ecobuntu> everyone try out xubuntu-desktop...it's the bomb
[05:04] <Xenguy> hajiki: it's a pager, but a pager from Hell, on crack ;-)
[05:04] <dducko> if its dynamic you can use no-ip.org or some such
[05:05] <Xenguy> hajiki: at least you were minimally compensated for the invasion of privacy =)
[05:05] <hajiki> true
[05:05] <Xenguy> hajiki: sorry not trying to be rude or anything
[05:05] <paladinew> dducko: ok, I'll set that up in a minute.  my last question is:  when I connected, it prompted me to accept or refuse the connection, is there a way to auto accept the connection ?
[05:05] <dducko> yes
[05:06] <dducko> one of the last checkboxes
[05:06] <dducko> when you did the setup
[05:06] <paladinew> ah ha, prefect!
[05:06] <paladinew> thank you sir
[05:06] <Xenguy> hajiki: anyway, a curse upon them all, and may they be overtaken by the Mavens of FOSS :-)
[05:06] <dducko> Welcome
[05:06] <vnpaven> Please help me about script and crontab?
[05:08] <war-totem> can someone tell me how to run a diagnostic on my dvd/cdrom?
[05:08] <war-totem> mine hasnt been working since breezy
[05:08] <W[i] zzard> vnpaven, www.google.com is a great place to learn
[05:08] <ecobuntu> what's google?
[05:08] <W[i] zzard> war-totem, shake the case
[05:08] <Tido> god I'm such a nub, ok how do  you edit your sources.list?
[05:08] <ecobuntu> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:09] <Murrlin> what would be the best option(s) in apt-get to just see what packages there are first, before doing any installations?
[05:09] <kevogod> ecobuntu, Google is a search engine.
[05:09] <ecobuntu> or sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:09] <ecobuntu> probably the later is easier
[05:09] <war-totem> W[i] zzard: its a laptop
[05:09] <Xenguy> Tido: an easier editor is 'gedit'
[05:09] <ecobuntu> latter
[05:09] <Tido> gedit is the text editor with gnome?
[05:09] <ecobuntu> vi is what i learned on
[05:09] <Hobbsee> Tido: yes
[05:09] <Xenguy> Tido: yah
[05:09] <ecobuntu> not as intuitive as gedit
[05:09] <Tido> ok, thanks so much for putting up with me :P
[05:09] <_jason> ecobuntu:  lol I was to point out that vi would probably require a little more info ;o
[05:09] <W[i] zzard> war-totem, try and boot off it ;)
[05:09] <Xenguy> ecobuntu: vi is much better, when you have the time :-)
[05:10] <Xenguy> Tido: ask you questions anytime
[05:10] <war-totem> W[i] zzard: ill try
[05:10] <Xenguy> er your*
[05:10] <n0odl3> which is better fluxbox or open box
[05:10] <ecobuntu> fluxbox
[05:10] <W[i] zzard> what about, closed box?
[05:10] <n0odl3> how would i install it and delete gnome?
[05:10] <ecobuntu> which is better gnome, kde, or xfce4?
[05:10] <ecobuntu> xfce4!
[05:10] <W[i] zzard> matter of opinion
[05:10] <n0odl3> can i install any of those and delete gnome safely
[05:10] <n0odl3> ?
[05:11] <Xenguy> ecobuntu: and once you've had the time, you never go back :-)
[05:11] <ecobuntu> don't delete gnome!  you need gnome to install fluxbox
[05:11] <ecobuntu> gnome is a desktop environment, fluxbox is a windows manager
[05:11] <n0odl3> oh really?
[05:11] <Xenguy> ecobuntu: I'm currently liking xfce4
[05:11] <hajiki> whats xubuntu?? new themes?
[05:11] <ecobuntu> you need gnome or kde, noodle3
[05:11] <n0odl3> do you need gnome for xfce?
[05:11] <ecobuntu> i think xfce4 is great...especially with thunar file manger
[05:11] <Xenguy> hajiki: new project
[05:12] <Xenguy> n0odl3: gawd no
[05:12] <tristanmike> hajiki, xubuntu is a version based off of a lighter window manager i believe
[05:12] <hajiki> ohh i see it now, its xfce based
[05:12] <hajiki> col
[05:12] <tristanmike> hajiki, yeah
[05:12] <ecobuntu> n0odl3: you should keep gnome until xubuntu is fully released on a cd for 6.04
[05:12] <n0odl3> Xenguy can you install xfce and delete gnome?
[05:12] <Xenguy> tristanmike: based on xfce4
[05:12] <vladuz976> is there a guide to the expert mode installation?
[05:12] <n0odl3> when ubuntu reaches 6.04 will ubuntu stop being free?
[05:12] <ecobuntu> n0odl3: so if you want to install xfce4...then sudo xubuntu-desktop
[05:13] <ecobuntu> n0odl3: nope...it will always be free
[05:13] <Xenguy> n0odl3: well, you want GNOME libraries, to run some GNOME programs
[05:13] <tristanmike> ;)
[05:13] <ecobuntu> Xenguy: you could always install gnome programs :)
[05:13] <Xenguy> n0odl3: you don't *have* to delete anything
[05:13] <KinkoBlast> n0odl3: Yep. And Bill Gates will release Windows Vista as Free Software.
[05:13] <n0odl3> last time i tried to install KDE it messed up my gpg keys and erased my book marks
[05:13] <K-Rich> anyone care to look at something and see if i am doing okay or not.... kinda OT but.... this IS the place to ask
[05:13] <Xenguy> ecobuntu: yah :)
[05:14] <hajiki> anyone running oracle on a production box using ubuntu?
[05:14] <Xenguy> K-Rich: OT is #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:14] <Murrlin> midnight commander doesn't seem to be on my ubuntu install. is there an alternative?
[05:14] <israel> can anyone help me get 3D acceration working with xorg and a Radeon 9200?
[05:14] <K-Rich> thanks Xenguy
[05:14] <n0odl3> does that usually happen?
[05:14] <Xenguy> K-Rich: if it is a technial issue, here is the place
[05:14] <crimsun> !info mc
[05:14] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[05:15] <crimsun> Murrlin: see above
[05:15] <vladuz976> anybody here used the expert mode installation? the installer returns that the cd is not a ubuntu cd
[05:15] <Murrlin> oh oh. a breezy upgrade.
[05:15] <name773> how good is the amd64 support in ubuntu?
[05:17] <dducko> to whoever recomended the mediaplayerconnectivity extension, thank you
[05:19] <israel> can anyone help me get 3D acceration working with xorg and a Radeon 9200?
[05:19] <crimsun> israel: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:20] <iiiears> israel - fglrx drivers installed?
[05:20] <W[i] zzard> poew poew :-)
[05:20] <bluefrog-10> vladuz976, didn't have pb on ubuntu neither ubu-server
[05:20] <iiiears> hi crimsun
[05:20] <israel> thx crimsun, I'll check it out.
[05:20] <K-Rich> Xenguy: i can't get anyone to respond in #ubuntu-offtopic.. think you could take a look-see for me?
[05:20] <crimsun> iiiears: hi.
[05:20] <israel> iiiears, yes, I have fglrx installed and seems to be working, based on the Xorg.0.log file
[05:20] <vladuz976> bluefrog-10: ok, i'll try again
[05:21] <Xenguy> K-Rich: /msg me
[05:21] <bluefrog-10> vladuz976, is the md5 cheksum ok for ur disc?
[05:21] <cemOzturk> hi, how can i do bodybuilding with ubuntu? i want to be like arnold.
[05:21] <something_else> I dont get it I installed auddiosrobble for beep media player
[05:21] <israel> iiiears, but when I run a gfx intensive game, e.g. tuxracer, I get a second per frame.
[05:21] <something_else> yet I cant see it in work
[05:21] <vladuz976> bluefrog-10: didn't check that
[05:21] <iiiears> israel - ouch
[05:21] <vladuz976> bluefrog-10: but it is the cd's ubuntu sent
[05:21] <W[i] zzard> cemOzturk, haw haw ur damn funny
[05:21] <Xenguy> K-Rich: or #flood if you prefer
[05:22] <bluefrog-10> vladuz976, oh
[05:22] <vladuz976> bluefrog-10: i figured, those should be ok
[05:22] <cemOzturk> W[i] zzard : :) im bored with dealing with ubuntu for 9 hours :(((
[05:22] <K-Rich> Xenguy: not that type of thing, see /msg
[05:22] <iiiears> israel - the link crimsun showed should straighten things out nicely.
[05:22] <bluefrog-10> vladuz976, then i don't know. last expert ubuntu installed no mre than 4 hours
[05:22] <bluefrog-10> vladuz976, ago
[05:23] <W[i] zzard> cemOzturk, then... stop?
[05:23] <vladuz976> bluefrog-10: last? how many did you install?
[05:23] <Xenguy> back
[05:23] <K-Rich> Xenguy: wth was that? Xenguy left the room (quit: "K-Rich").
[05:23] <bluefrog-10> vladuz976, a few. ubuntu as well as ubuntu-server
[05:24] <Xenguy> K-Rich: an accident: I pressed /q instead of /qu :-)
[05:24] <K-Rich> ahhh
[05:24] <K-Rich> need me to send again ?
[05:24] <Xenguy> (cos I didn't get yer /msg)
[05:24] <vladuz976> bluefrog-10: in the expert mode, when you pick desktop for installation method, how is it different from the default? is the partioning different? does it put /usr on a separate one?
[05:24] <K-Rich> Xenguy: resent
[05:25] <coolkev> I have a very big complain, and i have complained before as well, but was unable to get a response then, if i can't get a response in the channel i would like to know from who or where. The question is as follows: Every since switching from Hoary to Breezy, certain application seem to close on their own, a very important application to me which i know for a fact closesly randomly, becasue of ubuntu breezy is xcha
[05:25] <coolkev> t, i have lost many hours of works and filequeues because my xchat closes because breezy has porblems
[05:25] <iiiears> Could not open device "/dev/radio" !    - added gradio and radio - /dev/radio doesn't exist.      What next :?
[05:25] <Xenguy> K-Rich: not receiving; incoming
[05:25] <mini> how to startx on ubuntu-server?
[05:25] <shagg> anybody have any experience with win4lin and ubuntu?
[05:25] <israel> I'm looking at it now, iiiears/crimsun, but so far it looks like things I've done (install fglrx drivers and add it to /etc/modules, with the changes to xorg.conf)
[05:25] <iiiears> no radio in /dev/radio  video0 yes radio no.
[05:26] <K-Rich> Xenguy: should i keep this here, or move it to ubuntuforums... http://krich.dyndns.org/
[05:26] <_jason> coolkev:  I have experienced the same thing with xchat a few times.  I am now running it in a terminal to see if I can find an error message, but it has yet to crash.
[05:26] <K-Rich> Xenguy: make it easyer
[05:26] <mini> how to startx on ubuntu-server?
[05:26] <W[i] zzard> coolkev, pawned!
[05:26] <Xenguy> K-Rich: weird, looks like yer not getting my /query either?
[05:26] <coolkev> pawned?
[05:26] <coolkev> what does that mean?
[05:27] <K-Rich> Xenguy: nothing... and i have query's from others open as well
[05:27] <Xenguy> coolkev: he appears to be joking
[05:27] <lucis> Hi, I'm trying to install a video card driver. I'm kind of unsure as how to do this.
[05:27] <mini> how to startx on ubuntu-server?
[05:27] <coolkev> I'm not laughing
[05:27] <Xenguy> K-Rich: something is odd between our networks perhaps - dunno
[05:27] <W[i] zzard> coolkev, if ppl don't listien to you there is only one thing to do, talk with your feet....
[05:28] <Xenguy> K-Rich: you can always spill it here :-)
[05:28] <K-Rich> Xenguy: strange...  did you look at the url though ?
[05:28] <K-Rich> Xenguy: should i move this to the ubuntuforums http://krich.dyndns.org/
[05:28] <W[i] zzard> fluvvell, mmm dsl for me in a few days!!
[05:28] <coolkev> W[i] zzard: Stop, please
[05:28] <Xenguy> K-Rich: I don't have time for forums (didn't look at URL sorry)
[05:29] <W[i] zzard> coolkev, stop what? I am just saying, that if a company don't listien to you then walk out and go elsewhere
[05:29] <_jason> coolkev:  I have only noticed this behavior with xchat, what other programs crashed for you?
[05:29] <mini> how to startx on ubuntu-server?
[05:29] <iiiears> israel - I had a an ati all-in-wonder card 9600 it worked with acceleration but resizing windows for games was tricky. finally broke down and bought a GeForce 6600GT+ a tuner card  nVidia drivers are much easier to configure and more flexible.
[05:29] <dducko> lucius what nm
[05:29] <coolkev> W[i] zzard: Maybe there' another medium to reahc the company, i've only tried on irc
[05:29] <YokoZar> How do I change my calender so that Sunday is on the left rather than right?
[05:29] <YokoZar> (The calender in the upper right)
[05:30] <sizzam> YokoZar:   which calendar,  in gnome or in evolution, etc
[05:30] <W[i] zzard> coolkev, what about support forums?
[05:30] <YokoZar> sizzam: gnome
[05:30] <qmanman> anyone running the latest ATI drivers?
[05:30] <YokoZar> The one where the time is
[05:30] <Xenguy> YokoZar: sounds like an option on the man page ?
[05:30] <iiiears> nVidia cooperates at least a little with open source developers ati doesn't. - fear of losing a trade secret?
[05:30] <coolkev> _jason: if i leave firefox running, i wake up firefox is no longer running, and Xchat is not running as usual, sometimes xchat closes in front of my eyes, and i just feel like stomping on which ever idiot that made the error int he ubuntu code, i tried with the ubuntu repop, xchat 2.4.4 and then complied my self xchat 2.4.5
[05:31] <YokoZar> Xenguy: well it's not in the preferences menu
[05:31] <_jason> coolkev:  the one you compiled has not crashed I assume?
[05:31] <israel> my old machine was NVIDIA, but this newer machine came with a radeon.
[05:31] <benplaut> anyone know how to recompile Beagle to have .DOC support?
[05:31] <coolkev> Obiously it crashs
[05:31] <mini>  resolution ratio
[05:31] <coolkev> all xchat crash on breezy
[05:32] <dducko> nah.. im useing xchat
[05:32] <Xenguy> YokoZar: what application?
[05:32] <dducko> works fine for me
[05:32] <W[i] zzard> all xchat base are belong to breezy?
[05:32] <coolkev> i'm not considering leaving ubuntu all together, i've been a long time user, and now if this problem doesn't get resolved, i'll have to try some other much better prodcut
[05:32] <mini> how to change the  resolution ratio of terminal?
[05:32] <YokoZar> Xenguy: Just the calender that pops up when you click the clock in the corner
[05:32] <bigfoot2> how do i register?
[05:32] <coolkev> xchat-base from the repo?
[05:33] <bigfoot2> I'm at ubuntu-offtopic room and i need to identify myself. How?
[05:33] <mini>  how to change the  resolution ratio of terminal?
[05:33] <MFen> my stepson trashed his mbr. how do i re-run grub-install
[05:33] <drapelyk> Anyone: what would be the best way to move files to a server via SSH?
[05:33] <benplaut> !grub
[05:33] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:34] <MFen> i've booted from the cd, ran the hardware update step, jumped over to the shell prompt
[05:34] <crimsun> MFen: sudo update-grub
[05:34] <iiiears> bigfoot /msg nickserv identify (your password)
[05:34] <mini> who will tell me  how to change the  resolution ratio of terminal?
[05:34] <MFen> *update*-grib
[05:34] <MFen> i'll try that
[05:34] <drapelyk> Anyone: what would be the best way to move files to a server via SSH?
[05:34] <SEJeff> drapelyk: scp
[05:35] <W[i] zzard> scp
[05:35] <drapelyk> !scp
[05:35] <ubotu> drapelyk: Not a clue
[05:35] <drapelyk> lol
[05:35] <SEJeff> drapelyk: cd into the dir that has your files
[05:35] <mini>  how to change the  resolution ratio of terminal?
[05:35] <iiiears> """"/msg nickserv help     will give you some more info""""
[05:35] <mini> who will tell me  how to change the  resolution ratio of terminal?
[05:35] <drapelyk> SEJeff moving files from a windows machine to an ubuntu server install
[05:35] <SEJeff> drapelyk: scp *.txt username@hostname:/home/username/ will copy all of the text files to the server
[05:35] <aeon17x> mini: resolution?
[05:35] <MFen> benplaut: i don't have a livecd
[05:36] <MFen> so that howto's dead on step one
[05:36] <mini> resolution
[05:36] <drapelyk> MFen download one
[05:36] <SEJeff> drapelyk: download this: http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/pscp.exe. rename it to scp.exe and put it in C:\windows\system32
[05:36] <iiiears> SEJeff - would gftp configured to use ssh be possible?
[05:36] <drapelyk> I have putty
[05:36] <coolkev> _jason did you do a upgrade to breezy using the repositories, from hoary to breezy
[05:36] <coolkev> or from a cd install
[05:36] <drapelyk> ok
[05:36] <MFen> why do i *need* a livecd. i have the install cd. the whole OS is there on hda6
[05:37] <MFen> i've got it chrooted and everything, grub just won't cooperate
[05:37] <SEJeff> iiiears: if sftp was configured on the server. I don't believe ubuntu does that by default when installing openssh-server
[05:37] <mini> i don't how to say,my english is poor,change the default 640*480 to 800*600 or higher.
[05:37] <SEJeff> I cold be wrong though
[05:37] <sizzam> drapelyk:  i use WinSCP to access my ssh server from Windows
[05:37] <sizzam> drapelyk:  its free, its an FTP style client but uses the SCP protocol instead
[05:37] <coolkev> maybe xchat crashing problem is only with those who ugrade from hoary to breezy using the repositories
[05:37] <Murrlin> can anyone use linfo?
[05:38] <Murrlin> I'm looking for glib 1.2.6
[05:38] <iiiears> !info glib
[05:38] <MFen> hah. i got update-grub working without the dumb livecd
[05:38] <Murrlin> and I can't read ^^;;;
[05:38] <mini> how to change  the default 640*480 of terminal to 800*600 or higher?
[05:39] <SEJeff> MFen: do you want to know how to do it *if* you have to use the livecd?
[05:39] <iiiears> murrlin - you can use it.
[05:39] <MFen> SEJeff: no, i just wanted to know why grub-install didn't work in the chroot
[05:39] <Xenguy> screen is so cool :-)
[05:39] <Xenguy> no muss no fuss
[05:39] <iiiears> ubotu is a very trusting bot
[05:39] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, iiiears
[05:39] <SEJeff> MFen: It's probably easier to use the grub shell in the chroot
[05:39] <Xenguy> define trusting :-)
[05:39] <Murrlin> thank you
[05:39] <MFen> well, i just ran update-grub. it ran, there were no errors, and the mbr is still screwed
[05:39] <SEJeff> MFen: I use root (hd0,4) and then setup (hd0) from the chrooted grub shell
[05:40] <SEJeff> MFen: Yes, because that won't always work
[05:40] <MFen> SEJeff: dang it, i think that's what i did the last time i had this
[05:40] <SEJeff> MFen: but my method will
[05:40] <MFen> SEJeff: i believe it will
[05:41] <israel> iiiears: I seem to have done everything correctly, but it still doesn't work.  There is one clue though:
[05:41] <israel> iiiears: when I run fglrxinfo, I get "libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed
[05:41] <israel> "
[05:41] <an2n> where am i?
[05:41] <SEJeff> MFen: I have to do that to my windows laptop after everytime I boot into windows
[05:41] <MFen> SEJeff: wth, why?
[05:41] <SEJeff> MFen: I think it has something to do with the drive geometry being reported incorrectly
[05:42] <SEJeff> MFen: I found a forum post on how to fix it, just haven't had time to do it
[05:42] <iiiears> okay, that is a start. - google is our friend let's take a look
[05:42] <P8ntKid> Where can i get a repo for E17?
[05:43] <ksmurf> anyone have any luck setting up freenx on breezy?
[05:43] <an2n> hi...hellooo? wats da topic?
[05:43] <MFen> SEJeff: well, i'll let you know in a minute..
[05:43] <sizzam> P8ntKid:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155&highlight=e17
[05:44] <iiiears> israel http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75585.html - this sucks
[05:44] <P8ntKid> sizzam: Lol thanks. I found it like 2 seconds before though!
[05:44] <P8ntKid> sizzam: lol
[05:44] <alekz_> anyone here has linuxdcpp installed ?
[05:44] <DjKritical> can anyone access http://www.drumandbass.co.nz?
[05:45] <israel> iiiears, yeah I was just reading that one myself.  Didn't see a solution yet.  Did you?
[05:45] <ksmurf> anyone have any luck setting up freenx on breezy?
[05:45] <ksmurf> DrKritical yes
[05:45] <W[i] zzard> DjKritical,  Yes
[05:45] <an2n> fuck i am lost
[05:46] <W[i] zzard> might grab some of those tracks on there, my misses loves that crap :P
[05:46] <alekz_> wich is the command that i should execute to install something from source without using make ?
[05:46] <DjKritical> umm
[05:47] <DjKritical> that url was wrong
[05:47] <W[i] zzard> install
[05:47] <DjKritical> I meant http://test.drumandbass.co.nz
[05:47] <iiiears> only a snippet of a lead a few are suggesting that the latest driver is flawed and a rollback to an earlier driver might be the answer. - i dunno - i used the fglrx driver a bout six weeks ago.
[05:47] <benplaut> anyone know how to recompile Beagle to have .DOC support?
[05:48] <ksmurf> !freenx
[05:48] <ubotu> I heard freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[05:48] <W[i] zzard> mmm url not going so well
[05:49] <israel> iiiears: to an earlier flgrx driver?  Ugggh.  How do I do that?
[05:49] <aeon17x> !prelink
[05:49] <ubotu> prelink is probably a way to load apps faster. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25274&highlight=Prelink and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45810&highlight=Prelink
[05:50] <n0odl3> hey xfce looks exactly like kde
[05:50] <iiiears>  Septor seems to have a workaround about 2/3 down the page    then Schizoid
[05:50] <iiiears>  "good stuff working for me"
[05:51] <n0odl3> what the heck?
[05:51] <charles> can someone help me with a dvd problem i'm having?
[05:51] <n0odl3> how do i get fluxbox?
[05:51] <sizzam> charles:  ask away
[05:51] <lucis> Hi, I'm trying to install a driver for a video card. I downloaded the driver and ran the install script, but I'm getting some errors.
[05:51] <n0odl3> how do i get flux box?
[05:51] <irvin> can someone explain how apt-get works?
[05:51] <ecobuntu> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[05:52] <sizzam> lucis:  what kind of video card is it
[05:52] <dougsk> n0odl3, enable universe, sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[05:52] <lucis> Sizzam: it's an Intel 82845g
[05:52] <ksmurf> anyone have any luck setting up freenx on breezy?
[05:53] <ksmurf> or anytype of secure remote (ssh) desktop inbreezy?
[05:53] <n0odl3> how would i get open box?
[05:54] <dougsk> n0odl3, same way s/fluxbox/openbox
[05:54] <ksmurf> n0oodl3 apt-get install openbox
[05:54] <n0odl3> is open box an addon to gnome like flux box is?
[05:55] <ksmurf> it is a seperate window manager
[05:55] <aeon17x> Is prelinking a good idea?
[05:55] <ksmurf> but can be used with gnome
[05:55] <ksmurf> aeon what speen is the puter
[05:55] <israel> I tried the env var suggestion from septor, nothing.
[05:55] <dougsk> n0odl3, I think metacity would be the ideal window manager for use with gnome at the moment
[05:55] <frank23> can someone recommend a good NES emulator?
[05:55] <israel> iiiears: I tried the env var suggestion from septor, nothing.
[05:56] <ksmurf> anyone have any luck setting up freenx on breezy? or anything equivilent?
[05:56] <dougsk> frank23, I think zsnes is pretty much the defacto standard
[05:56] <tristanmike> yup
[05:56] <frank23> dougsk: nes, not snes ;-)
[05:56] <dougsk> frank23, oh oops sorry
[05:56] <ksmurf> oh old skool
[05:56] <israel> iiiears: haven't yet tried restricted modules.  Doesn't seem likely, but I'll try it.
[05:56] <iiiears> israel - it looks like ati made a mistake some other distros have the same error
[05:57] <ksmurf> ati ---- a mistake?
[05:57] <dougsk> frank23,  wow, excitebike and duckhunt days eh?
[05:58] <israel> iiiears:  great.  :-(
[05:58] <n0odl3> which one is more optimal flux box or open box?
[05:58] <johnsie2k> Hi.. when I stalled ubuntu I told it that I was in GMT time zone.... I'm actually in BST. How do I chnage that?
[05:58] <tristanmike> frank23, take your pick http://www.zophar.net/unix/nes.html
[05:58] <frank23> tristanmike: ok, thanks
[05:59] <tristanmike> yup :)
[05:59] <n0odl3> which one is more optimal in performance. Flux box or open box?
[05:59] <dougsk> johnsie2k, tzconfig
[05:59] <israel> iiiears:  ok, maybe I'll swap my nvidia card out of my server and put it in the AMD64 machine
[05:59] <johnsie2k> thanks
[05:59] <n0odl3> which one is better?
[06:00] <aeon17x> ksmurf: I have 1.8 Ghz Duron.
[06:00] <iiiears> israel - That sounds a lot easier. -I am sorry i didn't have the answer for you. :/
[06:00] <johnsie2k> hmm i had it set to the right zone but every time I boot up winblows I have to restet my clock
[06:00] <ksmurf> aeon ... I have it going on my 1.4 celeron M and it seems to speed things up
[06:01] <israel> No, that was extremely helpful.  Thanks for putting the effort in.  I would rather not do the hardware mods, and would rather use the newer, better, gfx card.
[06:01] <ksmurf> anyone have any luck setting up freenx on breezy? or anything equivilent?
[06:01] <johnsie2k> linux is changing the cpu clock back an hour
[06:01] <israel> iiiears, but if I have to, I guess i have to.
[06:01] <davidleeroth> Is crimsun here?
[06:02] <ksmurf> no david
[06:02] <davidleeroth> :(
[06:02] <davidleeroth> I needed help and he knows the answer
[06:02] <n0odl3> to get open box all you have to do is sudo apt-get install openbox?
[06:02] <bluefrog-10> johnsie2k, and which one is the good time?
[06:02] <johnsie2k> lol
[06:02] <israel> johnsie2k: I have the same issue.  I think it's because I told ubuntu that the hw clock is GMT, while windows thinks it's local time
[06:02] <ksmurf> better wait for him then
[06:02] <iiiears> israel - nVidia is so easy to install you'll wonder what to do with the rest of the time you set aside for installation. it's dead simple.
[06:03] <johnsie2k> is there any way to re-tell ubunbtu about the hw clock?
[06:03] <ksmurf> I love NVIDIA.... ATi bad very bad
[06:03] <aeon17x> iiiears: you play :)
[06:03] <bluefrog-10> johnsie2k, time is good in linux or in xp?
[06:03] <johnsie2k> time is good in linux
[06:03] <bluefrog-10> johnsie2k, so tweak xp not linux
[06:03] <israel> iiiiears, yeah it's just that the radeon is newer with more memory than the MX440 card I have on the other machine
[06:03] <iiiears> israel apt-get install nvidia-glx or use synaptic
[06:04] <johnsie2k> but it's linux that is messing up my cpu clock
[06:04] <israel> iiiears, do I have to uninstall any of the radeon stuff?
[06:04] <ksmurf> night all
[06:04] <SiriX> hey... im installing 5.10 atm ... and it's got to the blue screen that has the title Ubuntu Configuration... and it got to aboyt 70% then all the words went weird
[06:04] <SiriX> and it then went down to like 20% sorta thing
[06:05] <SiriX> and now it's kinda going all over the place..
[06:05] <israel> bluefrog-10, how do you tweak XP to tell it that the clock is GMT?  I looked around a bit and couldn't find a way to do that (didn't put in alot of effort though)
[06:05] <dougsk> johnsie2k, you might try this kb article: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314054
[06:05] <iiiears> israel - I don't know. - i left it installed. - heh
[06:05] <themikester60>  I've got a question for everyone in here, for my business I've been provided the task of setting up some sort of managed password facilities that must be secure, I was thinking perhaps just using a very streamlined and hardened linux box to host the passwords but this seems like a threat in itself should the server be compromised, how does everyone in here keep track of their passwords securely?
[06:05] <SiriX> and where it'd say "Configuring (Package)" it's like "ccodlldfiuikdd dsfffsswer"
[06:05] <johnsie2k> i'd rathernot have to use win XP to be honest
[06:05] <bluefrog-10> israel, properties on clock and adjust teime zone
[06:05] <israel> iiiears, ok, that should probably work, as long as I get the .conf file set up correctly.
[06:05] <HrdwrBoB> themikester60: passwords are encrypted
[06:06] <duncanm> what's a good disk usage visualizer?
[06:06] <duncanm> xdu
[06:06] <iiiears> israel - just started with ubuntu linux in june. - still learning
[06:06] <israel> bluefrog-10, but how can I set the time zone to GMT (for the clock) but then say to display in Eastern time (my local TZ)?
[06:06] <Korio> where and how do I turn on microphone boost?
[06:06] <Korio> 'Mic Boost',1
[06:06] <themikester60> hrdwrbob, yes I know this, but I need a means of collecting all of our passwords in one place because we have like 30+ between all the employees, and having it so that they can retreive their password if they forget or need access to a particular resource
[06:07] <dougsk> themikester60, it sounds like you might be looking for something like novell's edirectory or microsoft's active directory or something like that is that right?
[06:07] <brukental> anybody know what scsi devices are under in /dev?? there is no /dev/sdX.... like /dev/sda... trying to mount a mass-usb-storage device... found okay by the kernel, all modules loaded...
[06:07] <HrdwrBoB> themikester60: so you encrpyt their passwords with a password
[06:07] <themikester60> dougsk, I'm not really sure on that, let me look those up real quick because I've never heard of either of those products
[06:07] <HrdwrBoB> themikester60: so you have one password which can get all other passwords
[06:07] <johnsie2k> If I have to go into windows to fix an error that linux is causing it defeats the purpose of havinhg linux as an o/s
[06:07] <HrdwrBoB> then keep that password secure
[06:07] <bluefrog-10> israel, i believe that windows or linux if u're in a time zone u' re not in another one at the same time...
[06:07] <Rev-Marc> how do you setup data sources in Ubuntu? (like ODBC in windows)
[06:07] <Korio> where and how do I turn on microphone boost?
[06:07] <viator> anyone know of a font similar to myriad pro thats royalty free?
[06:08] <iiiears> korio - right click on the speaker icon and select "open volume control" then "edit" then "preferences"?
[06:08] <HrdwrBoB> Rev-Marc: you don't, as such
[06:08] <themikester60> hrdwrbob, that sounds like a pretty good solution actually, quite simple too I guess I was just thinking too much about this, what encryption would you recommend though?
[06:08] <brukental> koric, try alsamixer
[06:08] <Korio> iiiears, i want to do it from the terminal as i dont have gnome
[06:08] <HrdwrBoB> themikester60: there's a whole heap of apps to do this already
[06:08] <K-Mode> Heya
[06:08] <HrdwrBoB> the sort of encryption is not overly important
[06:08] <bluefrog-10> johnsie2k, from what u were saying windows is the pb not linux...
[06:09] <israel> bluefrog-10, no, there are two different settings you want to say.  The first is what time the clock keeps (e.g. GMT is good as a standard).  The second is what time zone you are currently in, so how to adjust the std time to display properly
[06:09] <iiiears> korio - okay. - you'll ned someone a little more seasoned than myself. (sheepish grin)
[06:09] <K-Mode> Anyone Here Have A Premade Floppy Boot Disk For A CD Install?
[06:09] <Baldev> Hey guys... What's the apt-get for ATi drivers?
[06:09] <johnsie2k> Linux is the one chnaging the CPU time.
[06:09] <brukental> k-mode, no ability to boot of CD?
[06:09] <iiiears> HrdwrBoB - Hello
[06:09] <Korio> np iiiears
[06:09] <K-Mode> It's An Old Aptiva PI-200
[06:09] <themikester60> hrdwrbob, are there any that come to mind immediately?
[06:09] <bluefrog-10> israel, ok. i don't know
[06:09] <brukental> baldev, try apt-cache search ati
[06:09] <prg> Does anyone know if the multiverse repository is still offline?
[06:10] <Rev-Marc> Hrdwr a database for the computers in my church?BoB how do I us Ubuntu to share
[06:10] <HrdwrBoB> themikester60: no, search on freshmeat
[06:10] <HrdwrBoB> iiiears: hi
[06:10] <Rev-Marc> wow
[06:10] <brukental> rev-marc, samba...
[06:10] <HrdwrBoB> oh
[06:10] <israel> bluefrog-10 I may just reinstall my linux box and tell it that the HW clock is local :-)
[06:10] <themikester60> thank you for your help
[06:10] <intelikey> does ub sell the full cd set  like deb ?
[06:10] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: run 'alsamixer'
[06:10] <dabaR> israel: to set the clock?
[06:10] <iiiears> HrdwrBoB - Great to see you buddy!! - (feel a question comming?)
[06:11] <HrdwrBoB> Rev-Marc: um.. what exactly are you trying to do
[06:11] <Korio> HrdwrBoB, im doing it but how to i turn an item on?
[06:11] <n0odl3> how do i switch to flux box?
[06:11] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: press 'm'
[06:11] <Korio> im at microphone boost now but wich key do i press?
[06:11] <Korio> thx :D
[06:11] <dougsk> johnsie2k, youmight try hwclock --show to verify what the cmos clock states
[06:11] <israel> dabaR half joking
[06:11] <SiriX> hrmms seems to have completed the installation ok... just went weird for the last bit of it
[06:11] <dabaR> n0odl3: do you have it installed?
[06:11] <n0odl3> yes
[06:12] <Korio> HrdwrBoB, does it save automaticly?
[06:12] <n0odl3> i just installed it
[06:12] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: no, run 'alsactl save'
[06:12] <dabaR> n0odl3: and, you would like to go there instead of gnome now, right?
[06:12] <dducko> johnsie2k,  i may have missed something, but you can right click on the clock and adjust the timezone throgh there
[06:12] <brukental> anybody know what scsi devices are under in /dev?? there is no /dev/sdX.... like /dev/sda... trying to mount a mass-usb-storage device... found okay by the kernel, all modules loaded...
[06:12] <n0odl3> wiat
[06:12] <Korio> HrdwrBoB,  i cant input in salsamix
[06:12] <Rev-Marc> HrdwrBoB I am going to use a system to share files but I also want it to hold my woek order database for the several people to access it as needed
[06:12] <n0odl3> i thought fluxbox was an addon to gnome
[06:12] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: no, that's another command
[06:12] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: after you quite alsamixer
[06:12] <Rev-Marc> woek = work
[06:12] <iiiears> HrdwrBoB - i need a file called radio in /dev      how do i add   /dev/radio is missing.   - yep - been here about 2 hours hoping you or crimsun might help.
[06:12] <dabaR> n0odl3: log out, and log in again, but click on session first, and select fluxbox to see what it is, if you want.
[06:12] <johnsie2k> Thanks duckko... thats what I needed :-)
[06:12] <n0odl3> i thought flux box is simply a window manager
[06:13] <n0odl3> not another gui
[06:13] <HrdwrBoB> iiiears: if you're missing a file in /dev it's most likely because the driver isn't loaded right
[06:13] <Korio> $ alsactl save
[06:13] <Korio> alsactl: Unknown command 'save'...
[06:13] <dabaR> johnsie2k: it could be used that way, yes.
[06:13] <dabaR> johnsie2k: sorry.
[06:13] <dabaR> n0odl3: ^
[06:13] <brukental> rev-mark you definately need samba.. I would start with a samba introduction...
[06:13] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: sorry, 'store'
[06:13] <n0odl3> whatdoes that mean?
[06:13] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: sudo alsactl store
[06:13] <n0odl3> dabar what does that mean?
[06:13] <brukental> rev-mark man samba
[06:13] <dabaR> n0odl3: what, you want a faster gnome?
[06:13] <HrdwrBoB> Rev-Marc: brukental is correct
[06:13] <n0odl3> yes
[06:13] <Korio> thx HrdwrBoB  :D
[06:13] <intelikey> iiiears if you have /.dev it might be there.
[06:13] <n0odl3> i dont really like metacity
[06:13] <iiiears> HrdwrBoB - Okay, that helps. i had no idea if i had to  just load something or recompile the kernel.
[06:14] <Korio> HrdwrBoB, do i need to restart something?
[06:14] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: nope
[06:14] <Rev-Marc> brukental / HrdwrBoB Samba will work as a database server also?
[06:14] <brukental> how do you guys mount USB devices??
[06:14] <HrdwrBoB> Rev-Marc: no
[06:14] <brukental> rev-mark: you need mysql for that
[06:14] <HrdwrBoB> brukental: right click the icon
[06:14] <HrdwrBoB> Rev-Marc: it depends what you want from your 'database'
[06:14] <iiiears> intelikey /.dev  okay i'll take a look.
[06:15] <n0odl3> dabaR yes why do you ask
[06:15] <n0odl3> do you have any suggestions?
[06:15] <intelikey> brukental mount /dev/sd<blah> <mount.point>  usually
[06:15] <HrdwrBoB> brukental: oh, MOUNT
[06:15] <HrdwrBoB> brukental: it should automount
[06:15] <Korio> HrdwrBoB, thanks... you might be able to help me on this other problem i have with xchat. when i start it the userlist is hidden and i have to "pull it out" all the time. when i restart its the same thing :S
[06:15] <brukental> intelikey: there is no /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc.
[06:15] <brukental> hrdwrbob: ls /dev/sd* finds nothing
[06:15] <Rev-Marc> brukental / HrdwrBoB I want several people to have access to the Work Order Database ( used to track repairs) at the same time
[06:16] <n0odl3> dabaR what do you suggest? does fluxbox make it faster? is open box better?
[06:16] <HrdwrBoB> brukental: then you don't have all the drivers loaded
[06:16] <dabaR> n0odl3: give me a sec, please...Im typing.
[06:16] <mini> will anyone tell me how to start web-cp?
[06:16] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: sorry I'm not sure about that - I don't use Xchat, but it sounds odd
[06:16] <brukental> hrdwrbob: /var/log/messages finds the device, but nothing... lsusb finds the device, but no automount
[06:16] <Korio> HrdwrBoB, what program do you use?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> ive seen xchat have that issue when first ran. but never afterwards. sounds like its almost not saving its settings or somthing.
[06:16] <brukental> hrdwrbob: dmesg shows the drivers loaded... its an MP3 player
[06:16] <HrdwrBoB> brukental: hangon a tic
[06:16] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: irssi
[06:17] <Korio> cant find it :(
[06:17] <mini>  the .deb package,buti don't know how to start it.
[06:17] <Korio> it says it links to another package
[06:17] <dabaR> n0odl3: cause its a common reason to replace metacity...that is why I ask. I do not use gnome anymore at all, so I am not sure how you would change it. It is somewhere in the Apps>Sys Tools>COnfiguration Editor. I use openbox just by itself. You can use openbox instead of metacity in gnome easily, but you would have to have one terminal window open, I think, or run this command(if not in a terminal) after you hit alt+f2 "openbox --replace
[06:17] <brukental> mini: man dkpkg
[06:18] <HrdwrBoB> brukental: 'sudo modprobe sd_mod'
[06:18] <Adridon> hi
[06:18] <HrdwrBoB> brukental: it should then suddently work
[06:18] <dereks> how do i use libglade-cil? i want to create a gui in glade, and import it into mono
[06:18] <frank23> why google when ubuntuforums have all the answers!!! ;-)
[06:18] <HrdwrBoB> you may have to plug/unplug
[06:18] <brukental> mini: man dpkg
[06:18] <n0odl3> dabaR how would i run open box by itself?
[06:18] <dereks> *monodevelop
[06:18] <dabaR> n0odl3: as to what is better, learn this one thing to know the answer to any is this better question in the open source software world - it is different. If it was better, and did the same thing, it would just be used instead of the other thing, or they would incorporate its code into the other thing.
[06:18] <stepans> gg
[06:18] <frank23> got fceultra working
[06:19] <brukental> hrdwrbob thanks hrdwrbob
[06:19] <Korio> HrdwrBoB, how did you install irssi?
[06:19] <dabaR> n0odl3: no gnome? you would do the same as I told you above, log out, log in, but hit session, and select openbox there. Off course, install first.
[06:19] <n0odl3> ok
[06:19] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: it's already installed, it's a text mode application
[06:19] <n0odl3> did you uninstall gnome?
[06:19] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: start it from a terminal
[06:19] <Korio> ohh
[06:19] <HrdwrBoB> 'irrsi'
[06:19] <brukental> HrdwrBoB: forgot the name of that scsi module, thanks
[06:19] <Korio> thx yet again HrdwrBoB
[06:19] <HrdwrBoB> brukental: so did I, I had to look it up :)
[06:20] <iiiears> korio - irssi is installed by default just type irssi in a terminal
[06:20] <atripathi> On windows it supports 1100x864 Resolution. How to get it in Breezy ?
[06:20] <dabaR> n0odl3: no, I just have a good openbox menu. right click on the desktop, and the menu comes up. You can customize it, and put in any application "shortcut" you would like. To see what I am talking about when saying menu, log into openbox by itself.
[06:20] <Korio> Is irssi hard to use?
[06:20] <atripathi> it jumps to 1200 after 1024
[06:21] <n0odl3> okay thank you
[06:21] <dabaR> Korio: no, you need to know a few commands and that is it.
[06:21] <iiiears> HrdwrBoB - Does using irssi make  you instantly "37337" - lol
[06:21] <Korio> dabaR,  do you have favourites etc?
[06:21] <dabaR> Korio: what is favorites?
[06:21] <ubuntu_linux_luv> i need some modem help
[06:21] <Korio> a list of servers
[06:21] <Korio> basicly
[06:21] <wickedpuppy> iiiears, eh ... i would think using erc in emacs is more leet
[06:21] <iiiears> lol
[06:21] <HrdwrBoB> iiiears: yes
[06:21] <Korio> How do i connect to a server basicly? I know the rest
[06:22] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: I find it very good to use
[06:22] <dabaR> Korio: it can be set up, I use freenode exclusively at this time. check out their site, it has a howto on that. common usage you can ask me(like scrolling, changing windows:))
[06:22] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: /connect server
[06:22] <intelikey> iiiears no that would be using an eggdrop connection to irc that would make you instant L337
[06:22] <dabaR> Korio: /server server too.
[06:23] <ubuntu_linux_luv> okay i dl ed the driver package from intel ( its a intele 536EP chipset modem) and installed as said and it didn't work i followed everything in the help me and i still can't get ppp to dial out
[06:23] <Korio> Thanks
[06:24] <iiiears> intelikey - stumbled into a bunch of really nice scripts for xchat this morning. http://www.linuxirc.com/
[06:24] <Xenguy> avar/last avalost
[06:24] <Xenguy> gah
[06:24] <ubuntu_linux_luv> could i get some modem driver help?
[06:24] <ubuntu_linux_luv> < a newb\
[06:24] <intelikey> yep. iiiears  i genelly write my own though
[06:25] <ircleuser> is anyone willing to give help?
[06:25] <tritium> ircleuser, just ask your question
[06:25] <Xenguy> ircleuser: ask
[06:25] <brukental> ubuntu: what modem?
[06:25] <iiiears> intelikey - the best way  - still bash - ing my way through the newb stage here. - grin
[06:26] <intelikey> yes ircleuser you need to learn how to ask smart questions....  that is all the help i can offer for now.
[06:26] <brukental> ubuntu: if its winmodem anything, forget about it
[06:26] <intelikey> me too iiiears
[06:26] <stepans> hfytfuyg8
[06:26] <Xenguy> ubuntu_linux_luv: linmodem.com (from memory)
[06:26] <ircleuser> i was booting from the ubuntu iso, and when it asks me to press enter if i want to begin my installation...it freezes.
[06:26] <W[i] zzard> some win modems have lin drivers
[06:26] <ircleuser> the keyboard is usb
[06:27] <Xenguy> ircleuser: rinse, lather, repeat (buy beer first :-)
[06:27] <ubuntu_linux_luv> xenguy i checked it and it took me back to intel
[06:27] <brukental> tschuess: what ubuntu? 5.04, 5.10?
[06:27] <ubuntu_linux_luv> think ill try swapping in the conexant modem i have
[06:27] <grigora> could someone help me create a chart in OpenOffice Calc? I have a linear function (y = ax + b) and I would like to graph it for a range of values. thanks!
[06:27] <tschuess> 5.10
[06:27] <ubuntu_linux_luv> 5.04
[06:27] <Xenguy> ubuntu_linux_luv: heh, really
[06:28] <ubuntu_linux_luv> xenguy yeah
[06:28] <pierre> how do i create a shutdown timer in the terminal?
[06:28] <brukental> pierre: cron job?
[06:28] <Xenguy> ubuntu_linux_luv: probably a reason, but I don't know what
[06:28] <iiiears> ircleuser - if you have a chance check for fingerprints on the disk then md5sum the disk for integrity.  (filealyzer is free for windows) next see if you can tell us the last message you see on scren.
[06:28] <Ninjew> Hey does anybody know if kde has builtin support for starting up ssh-agent on bootup, or is that something i should manually add to my XSEssion?
[06:28] <ubuntu_linux_luv> lol
[06:28] <tritium> grigora, have you looked into using gnuplot or octave (which calls gnuplot)?
[06:28] <brukental> pierre wait
[06:28] <Xenguy> pierre: man shutdown :-)
[06:28] <brukental> pierre: actually shutdown has a timer
[06:28] <ubuntu_linux_luv> i think i would be better of building a new pc and getting an external lol
[06:28] <brukental> pierre: man shutdown
[06:28] <tschuess> i just burned teh iso today though. nothing is on it
[06:29] <dooglus> Ninjew: there's a channel #kubuntu for that kind of stuff
[06:29] <brukental> pierre: listen to xenguy, hehe =)
[06:29] <grigora> tritium: no, why?
[06:29] <Xenguy> man oh man
[06:29] <ubuntu_linux_luv> or would i have an easier time with a wireless network card
[06:29] <intelikey> pierre shutdown timer ?
[06:29] <fluvvell> I have issues with sound, once had it all working now dont.  any clues as to troubleshooting alsa?  I can get an output from speakers with the esd command.
[06:29] <ubuntu_linux_luv> cause my neighbor told me i could use her broadband if i get the card
[06:29] <tschuess> is it because i need a PS/2 mouse?
[06:29] <tritium> grigora, because you want to plot a function, and they're useful for that
[06:29] <Xenguy> intelikey: yeh
[06:29] <brukental> lol or like shell$ man woman
[06:30] <intelikey> pierre to power down at xx:xx pm ?
[06:30] <brukental> saw that on a t-shirt, haha
[06:30] <sgtbaker> whats cookin everyone?
[06:30] <Xenguy> No manual entry for woman
[06:30] <crimsun> fluvvell: you -can- or you -can't- get any sound output?
[06:30] <brukental> xenguy: booo!!!
[06:30] <sgtbaker> yes booo to that
[06:31] <Xenguy> brukental: heheh
[06:31] <grigora> tritium: yeah, but it's a simple function and besides I have spent the time to come up with 10 x/y values, but I can't the graph correct, when I highlight the 2 columns, it gives me 2 lines as if it uses all the data for X and none for Y
[06:31] <intelikey> net split over with ?
[06:31] <iiiears> the windows zombie p4wn army is restless. - lock your doors and close "Windows".
[06:31] <ubuntu_linux_luv> xen would it be easier for me just to set up a wireless network card?
[06:31] <sgtbaker> oddly enough ubuntu has been the only distro that i have been able to get the sound on my thinkpad 600e to work on
[06:31] <korio> how do i create a shutdown timer?
[06:31] <Xenguy> sgtbaker: what's odd about that :-)
[06:31] <brukental> korio: lol we saw you change your nick pierre, lol
[06:32] <n0odl3> how do i put a background in openbox
[06:32] <Alister> hello all
[06:32] <brukental> korio: what exactly do you need to do???
[06:32] <intelikey> korio to time how long it takes to shutdown or what ?
[06:32] <crimsun> fluvvell: you -can- or you -can't- get any sound output?
[06:32] <korio> brukental: i was afk and missed the answer sorry
[06:32] <korio> and then i noticed i have my wrong nick because im using irssi
[06:32] <tritium> grigora, okay, it was just a suggestion
[06:32] <Xenguy> korio: it depends on what you mean by that phrase, but 'man shutdown' is straightforward
[06:32] <n0odl3> dabaR how do i put a background in openbox
[06:32] <ubuntu_linux_luv> lol xen
[06:32] <korio> Xenguy: sometime ago a guy gave me a command it was somethling like blablalba shutdown
[06:32] <dabaR> crimsun: hi. So, is it 1. operating system = system software + utilities, or 2. system software = operating system + utilities?
[06:32] <fluvvell> crimsun: just test sound from esd.  Looking for troubleshooting pointers really, have got stuff to work on my other mandrake system fine and this worked when I first installed it.
[06:33] <grigora> tritium: I appreciate it, I just don't think I have a need for gnuplot which I assume is much more heavyweight and flexible
[06:33] <Xenguy> korio: that won't work :p
[06:33] <ubuntu_linux_luv> lol
[06:33] <korio> Xenguy: it did lol
[06:33] <iiiears> korio shutdown -r now ?  r=reboot
[06:33] <crimsun> fluvvell: cat /proc/asound/cards . Paste output in #flood
[06:33] <Xenguy> korio: hah
[06:33] <korio> Xenguy: no
[06:33] <brukental> korio: its shutdown --parameter... but go to man pages.... shell$ man shutdown
[06:33] <Xenguy> iiiears: yah
[06:33] <crimsun> dabaR: depends on your perspective
[06:33] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to use openbox?
[06:33] <ubuntu_linux_luv> i want to get my modem up so i can rid my self of windows lol
[06:33] <dabaR> n0odl3: I do not know, I know a roundabout way, with starting gnome-session in a terminal, and then stopping it, and then killall nautilus. The result is that you have the nautilus(gnome) background.
[06:33] <tschuess> i looked at the disk and retried it but still doesnt work...
[06:34] <Xenguy> ubuntu_linux_luv: what kind of modem - adsl, dialup ?
[06:34] <brukental> ubuntu: is this on a desktop or a laptop modem??
[06:34] <intelikey> Xenguy i could use the until loop of bash and make that work so don't laugh to loud
[06:34] <ubuntu_linux_luv> dailup
[06:34] <tritium> grigora, :)
[06:34] <dabaR> n0odl3: that is not a good question ^ the last one. always explauin what you mean by use something.
[06:34] <korio> Cant i create a cronjob?
[06:34] <ubuntu_linux_luv> and im trying to connect to an aol account lol
[06:34] <Xenguy> intelikey: automation is yer friend
[06:34] <crimsun> fluvvell: so sound -does- work, just not through esd?
[06:34] <ubuntu_linux_luv> i read just now that aol doesn't support ppp lol
[06:34] <dabaR> crimsun: how so? tell me if you can not answer this now too, if you are busy, or anything like that..
[06:35] <ubuntu_linux_luv> OKAY AOHELL is officially WACK
[06:35] <ubuntu_linux_luv> lol
[06:35] <fluvvell> crimsun:  I dont have the names of the tools to play with setup.  cant even find a /etc/init.d/   command to properly start the esd daemon
[06:35] <brukental> korio: cron job.. it depends on what you need to do.. if you want the machine to shutdown at a specific time, or you want to shut down in 10min lets say, you can do shutdown.... or cron job if its something more complex
[06:35] <dabaR> fluvvell: just run esd
[06:35] <n0odl3> how would i view my home folder in openbox
[06:35] <korio> brukental: thats excactly what i meant
[06:35] <ubuntu_linux_luv> ima try my hand at setting up a wireless netwrok card lol
[06:35] <fluvvell> dataR:  Then what?
[06:35] <crimsun> dabaR: generally, an operating system is the kernel and anything required for a computer to be functionally usable excluding applications
[06:35] <dabaR> n0odl3: start nautilus --no-desktop. or add a menu item for a home folder.
[06:36] <n0odl3> or like when i download something how can i locate it in the "desktop file
[06:36] <n0odl3> i see
[06:36] <ubuntu_linux_luv> i found a few on linuxquestions.com that sound pretty good
[06:36] <La_PaRCa> um, I cant get tvtimme to work with my bt878
[06:36] <dabaR> crimsun: that is what I thought. but how does it then depend?
[06:36] <brukental> ubuntu: make sure its on a supported hardware list.
[06:36] <korio> brukental: i want it to shutdown in for example 90 minutes
[06:36] <humbolt> I read that I can get my skype work with alsa through aoss and with dmix to be able to output sound while some other app is using the sound device too?
[06:36] <iiiears> ubuntu_linux_luv, aol is really different than the rest of the 'net. - you can dial in using aol peng but i don't think you can access all of their content.
[06:36] <ubuntu_linux_luv> makes since
[06:36] <dabaR> n0odl3: if you are not good in cli, or a new user overall, use openbox just as a wm inside gnome, thats my advice.
[06:36] <crimsun> dabaR: because an operating environment is not necessarily interchangable with an operating system or a system environment
[06:36] <humbolt> I read I have to setup /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc in a certain way
[06:36] <brukental> korio: shutdown command can do that
[06:36] <aeon17x> korio: info shutdown
[06:37] <humbolt> but it does not seem to work
[06:37] <brukental> korio: no need for cron job
[06:37] <humbolt> how can I narrow down the problem
[06:37] <ubuntu_linux_luv> III where can i get aol peng?
[06:37] <ubuntu_linux_luv> i hate the aol interface crap anyways lol
[06:37] <crimsun> fluvvell: is System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup checked?
[06:37] <dabaR> crimsun: why I ask is that in this one book, they say, I think, that system software is the collection of os+utilities. but I was not sure whether it said that it is perhaps os = ss+utilities.
[06:37] <ubuntu_linux_luv> <use the dialer most of the time lol
[06:38] <iiiears> ubuntu_ - aol peng and another app written by that subscription linux company. doh the name escapes me. - give me a second.
[06:38] <n0odl3> dabaR how can i close nautilis now
[06:38] <korio> brukental: thx
[06:38] <n0odl3> for some reason that menu no longer comes up
[06:38] <korio> are there console based web browsers as well?
[06:38] <fluvvell> crimsun: yep
[06:38] <dabaR> crimsun: because then, ubuntu is a system software package, not a operating system, but os+utilities.
[06:38] <brukental> korio: lynx
[06:38] <dabaR> crimsun: same for windows.
[06:39] <ubuntu_linux_luv> I just want to say I've tried knoppix and i like ubuntu lots more lol
[06:39] <brukental> korio: apt-get install lynx
[06:39] <intelikey> shutdown timer from the command line that powers down at 23:00  "until [ `date +%H` = 23 ]  ;do sleep 60 ;done ;shutdown -n"  nothing fancy just bash.
[06:39] <brukental> korio: sudo apt-get install lynx
[06:39] <dabaR> n0odl3: killall nautilus in a terminal.
[06:39] <korio> brukental: thx its really fun playing in the console
[06:39] <n0odl3> how would i open a terminal?
[06:39] <fluvvell> with esd running I can get some stuff from the system>preferences>multimedia  to work, but it crashed mplayer
[06:39] <n0odl3> i can no longer left click
[06:39] <crimsun> dabaR: it depends where one draws the line between utilities and applications
[06:39] <Xenguy> intelikey: at or cron
[06:39] <crimsun> fluvvell: are you using mplayer -ao esd
[06:39] <ubuntu_linux_luv> < enjoys the console been lookign through the man pages for a few days now lol
[06:40] <intelikey> could be forked to the background easily very little add cpu load.   so it can be done.
[06:40] <iiiears> ubuntu_linux_luv, aol dialer by linspire might be your best option it is based on a revised aol peng.
[06:40] <ubuntu_linux_luv> nice
[06:40] <ubuntu_linux_luv> sourceforge?
[06:40] <crimsun> fluvvell: dpkg -l mplayer\*|grep ^ii
[06:41] <ubuntu_linux_luv> seraching google lol
[06:41] <calvin> Can anyone tell me how to change the refresh rate of my login screen so my different monitor will show it?
[06:41] <intelikey> Xenguy :)   yeah i know.   but i don't use cron/at .... anyway.
[06:41] <dabaR> n0odl3: :P kill it in a console. alt+ctrl+f3, log in, then killall nautilus, then alt+ctrl+f7 to get back to openbox.
[06:41] <ubuntu_linux_luv> thanx iii
[06:41] <iiiears> ubuntu_ - i don't know. - last time i saw it it was part of linspire's site.
[06:41] <Xenguy> intelikey: that makes no sense - the utilities for that function already exist <shrug>
[06:41] <brukental> have fun guys, gnite.
[06:42] <ubuntu_linux_luv> you guys rock i might not be back lol if i don't its a good thing lol
[06:42] <ubuntu_linux_luv> or maybe to help someone i might lol
[06:42] <Xenguy> brettcar_: nite
[06:42] <crimsun> fluvvell: and your cpu is...?
[06:43] <fluvvell> crimsun: amd sempron
[06:43] <calvin> Can anyone tell me how to change the refresh rate of my login screen?
[06:43] <intelikey> Xenguy so does ms windows so why use linux.   errr i think you logic is flawed there.  just because a way of doing something exists, does not make another way of doing the same thing foolish.
[06:44] <Xenguy> intelikey: one needs to evaluate, exactly :-)
[06:44] <intelikey> :)
[06:44] <crimsun> fluvvell: 64-bit?
[06:44] <dabaR> crimsun: I think you missed my point. utilities are what makes your computer a useful thing to use. If you could only use the operating system, it would be boring. applications are specific to an area of application of computer usage, is how I understand it, but, system software excludes applications, it is only os+utilities - by this one definition that I have come upon...
[06:44] <fluvvell> crimsun: do you think I should uninstall and reinstall the 386 one?  No just 32bit
[06:45] <station> help! i isntalled ubuntu but it takes time to boot
[06:45] <ubuntu_linux_luv> PEACE
[06:45] <station> need help speeding up my ubuntu box
[06:45] <iiiears> anyone else feel a disruption in the "force"?
[06:46] <crimsun> dabaR: we discriminate between an OS and an operating environment. Both Windows and a Linux distribution are the latter.
[06:46] <station> please.................
[06:46] <fluvvell> iiears: yep, major disturbence
[06:46] <dabaR> crimsun: OK. thank you.
[06:46] <intelikey> that is the most pitiful cry for help i've ever seen.....  :)   "<station> help! i isntalled ubuntu but it takes time to boot"
[06:46] <crimsun> fluvvell: if you're using the 32-bit version, you should be able to use mplayer-k6
[06:46] !alindeman:*! Hi all.  Looks like a server previously in main rotation is having some connection issues; it's been removed from main rotation for a while, but still has over 3000 users on it.  We'll try to track down the problem.  Thanks!
[06:46] <dabaR> intelikey: that did not help in any way that I could see.
[06:46] <calvin> Anyone know how to change the refresh rate in the login screen?
[06:46] <iiiears> intelikey "humanity to others..."
[06:47] <iiiears> calvin - display resolution? - ubotu i think has a link to resolution.
[06:47] <tschuess> would anyone have an idea about not being able to start my ubuntu install
[06:47] <iiiears> !resolution
[06:47] <ubotu> resolution is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:47] <intelikey> yeah i agree dabaR.   but it still was, though i shouldn't have mentioned it.
[06:48] <iiiears> tscheuss - what error/s are you seeing?
[06:48] <dabaR> intelikey: well, you volunteered:))
[06:48] <intelikey> yep
[06:48] <tschuess> iiiears: i dont see any errors.  it either freezes or doesnt let me type
[06:48] <spudse> !fluxbox
[06:48] <ubotu> somebody said fluxbox was forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net, or the new blackbox, with antialias, better menu, etc.
[06:49] <calvin> iiiears, it does but once I shut down and boot up at the login screen it's too high of a refresh rate and I end up having to plug in my other monitor to login then switch back
[06:49] <dm> In KDE how do i make links to drives perminant
[06:49] <fluvvell> crimsun: thanks for that, I hadnt even heard of it!
[06:50] <Toma-> ive got PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.bin in my bashprofile but i still cant use the executables in .bin... any ideas?
[06:51] <dabaR> Toma-: you mean executables in ~/.bin?
[06:51] <Toma-> yeh
[06:51] <Xenguy> Toma-: don't use the dot ?
[06:51] <dabaR> did you restart your bash session?
[06:51] <Toma-> dabaR: yep
[06:51] <deFrysk> Toma-, put your path in .bashrc
[06:52] <dabaR> Toma-: tried without the dot(cant see how it would matter...)
[06:52] <dm> In KDE how do i make links to drives perminant
[06:52] <Xenguy> why use the dot ?
[06:52] <inva|id> dm define what you mean by links
[06:52] <dooglus> is there an equivalent of ext2's 'filefrag' for reiserfs?
[06:52] <Xenguy> intelikey: /etc/fstab
[06:52] <Toma-> Xenguy: so i dont have a bin folder in my home... i just like it al hidden
[06:52] <Toma-> thanks dabaR
[06:52] <Xenguy> Toma-: why tho ?
[06:52] <iiiears> calvin - i am wondering if  you current refresh settings are saved when you answer "Save these settings as Default" before shutdown.
[06:52] <Toma-> so i dont have to see it when i goto ~?
[06:53] <Xenguy> Toma-: try otherwise, to see if it is your problem ?
[06:53] <intelikey> Xenguy ???
[06:53] <Xenguy> intelikey: hi
[06:53] <Toma-> works a treat :) thx dabaR again
 intelikey: /etc/fstab       do what ?
[06:53] <dabaR> Toma-: deFrysk told you the answer.
[06:53] <Xenguy> intelikey: this is not your problem, yes?
[06:53] <Toma-> oh! thx deFrysk :D~
[06:54] <deFrysk> ;)
[06:54] <intelikey> just saw my name light up Xenguy
[06:54] <Xenguy> intelikey: hell  you're probably right on
[06:55] <Xenguy> intelikey: I have too many threads going I guess :-)
[06:55] <GullyFoyle>  /part
[06:56] <iiiears> calvin - Hmm - in "Sessions" >> "Session Options" > "Ask on Log out" - it asks to save setings as default  maybe refresh rate also?
[06:57] <ProxySer> need help here
[06:57] <anthonyc> hey
[06:57] <ProxySer> hi got some resolution prob
[06:57] <anthonyc> if I want to see everyone that goes to my site
[06:57] <anthonyc> what file do I checdk?
[06:57] <ProxySer> i got some resolution prob
[06:57] <inva|id> anthonyc /var/log/webserver(apache or apache2)/access.log
[06:57] <holycow> heh
[06:57] <holycow> breezy is turning out to be the single worst dist-upgrade ever
[06:58] <ProxySer> can anybody help..im new to this ubuntu
[06:58] <holycow> i have yet to have a single machine dist-upgrade gracefully
[06:58] <dabaR> ProxySer: ubotu told you what to do.
[06:58] <iiiears> ProxySer - Did you see this?
[06:58] <iiiears> !resolution
[06:58] <ProxySer> yup
[06:58] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:58] <crimsun> holycow: where is the dist-upgrade breaking?
[06:58] <eno> How can I makegrub say this: "I must not FUD. FUD is the mind-killer. FUD is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face Microsoft's FUD. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye upon its path. Where the FUD has gone there will be nothing. Only Linux will remain." when I boot?
[06:58] <Xenguy> holycow: I've been blessed then, twice
[06:58] <holycow> all over the place, usually at openoffice.org2
[06:59] <Xenguy> holycow: rinse, lather, repeat
[06:59] <synd> How do I save on a floppy?
[06:59] <dabaR> eno: do a lot of psychodelic drugs, and it will say that.
[06:59] <Xenguy> synd: mount the floppy first
[06:59] <spudse> When I install ubuntu server, what makes it different from other debian distro's ?
[06:59] <eno> very funny.
[06:59] <holycow> Xenguy, thankfully aptitude has a bit more balls, apt just kept on dying at unresolved dependency loops
[06:59] <Severian> synd, cp filename /media/floppy
[06:59] <Xenguy> mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[07:00] <Xenguy> holycow: interesting
[07:00] <dabaR> eno: you think?
[07:00] <eno> I am going to add it to my /boot/grub/menu.list and you'll never hear from me again because my computer will explode... then you'll feel like crap!
[07:00] <dabaR> eno: why do you think grub should say this?
[07:00] <crimsun> holycow: doing what for OOo2, though?
[07:00] <intelikey> prolly not.
[07:00] <dabaR> eno: why not make it your motd?
[07:01] <deFrysk> synd, you can add a disk mounter in your panel ?
[07:01] <deFrysk> -?
[07:01] <eno> I think grub is cool!
[07:01] <dabaR> eno: grub flies by.
[07:01] <intelikey> motd = wessage of the day
[07:01] <grokker> how do i run the filemanager as root?
[07:01] <eno> what is an motd?
[07:01] <dabaR> motd is shown to every used that logs in.
[07:01] <eno> not for me it doesn't!
[07:01] <user__> hi
[07:01] <eno> how do I access motd sir?
[07:01] <Severian> Or bring up Places/Computer and a floppy mounter should be there already
[07:01] <deFrysk> grokker, sudo nautilus
[07:01] <dabaR> eno: how is that that it does not fly by for you?
[07:02] <grokker> cool thanks
[07:02] <grokker> cool thanks deFrysk
[07:02] <user__> what are you talking about
[07:02] <iiiears> eno - grab an image and overlay your text for a splash screen
[07:02] <eno> because my grub says: I am going to boot ubuntu in 3 seconds unless you tell em not to
[07:02] <Xenguy> user__: message of the day
[07:02] <intelikey> eno "sudo nano /etc/motd "
[07:02] <eno> thanks intel
[07:02] <holycow> crimsun, it refused to upgrade oo.org2-help because of some package, refused to update the package until oo.org2-help was installed, apt-get -f install of course did nothing, and apt decided you could not remove oo.org2 until you install oo.org2-help  which of course is an impossobility as all apt options failed
[07:02] <holycow> i.e. checkmate
[07:02] <synd> Whats the command to unmount?
[07:03] <dabaR> eno: motd is in /etc/motd a text file. Read it to see where it is displayed(if you remember seeing it that is...
[07:03] <eno> umount
[07:03] <Severian> synd   umount
[07:03] <Xenguy> heh
[07:03] <eno> thanks dabar!
[07:03] <iiiears> sybd - umount
[07:03] <Xenguy> lazy keyboard'ists
[07:03] <crimsun> what was "some package"?
[07:03] <crimsun> ^ holycow
[07:03] <holycow> i will perform some tests on other machines here and narrow it down eventually
[07:03] <Severian> crimsun, it is a package to do some thing.
[07:03] <intelikey> synd "sudo umount <mount.point> "
[07:04] <synd> Thanks all.
[07:04] <holycow> the first time i thought it was a fluke, this time everything hung before i cared to note the package.
[07:04] <iiiears> synd - check out this link - winmac_fstab is a great introduction to how disks are handled - even editing fstab
[07:04] <iiiears> !ntfs
[07:04] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:05] <synd> Ok, I added the "Disk mounter" to the panel
[07:05] <grigora> does anyone know how to graph a simple linear function in OO Calc? thanks!
[07:05] <synd> When I click on the "mount floppy" I get an error
[07:05] <synd> "Given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[07:05] <Severian> synd, do you have a floppy disk in the drive?
[07:05] <Hobbsee> grigora: try #openoffice.org
[07:05] <eno> thanks for the tip, lads.  That is great.
[07:05] <synd> Severian: Yes
[07:05] <Severian> synd, it may be bad.
[07:05] <grigora> Hobbsee: I tried, it's dead
[07:05] <chemisus> what do i need to do to allow a windows computer to browse shared folders when using samba?
[07:05] <Hobbsee> grigora: ah ok
[07:05] <aeon17x> synd: restart your dbus
[07:06] <dabaR> eno: to add it into the grub itself, look into adding a line like title      blahblahDuneCrap:P(jk) in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[07:06] <synd> aeon17x: How?
[07:06] <Severian> chemisus, Do you want to create a share on your Linux machine for Windows machines to use?
[07:06] <chemisus> Severian, yes
[07:06] <aeon17x> I don't remember it clearly, but it goes something like sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[07:07] <Severian> chemisus, This is a several step process, but it is not hard.  I do it on a bunch of machines.
[07:07] <eno> thanks Dabar.  I will screw around with that too
[07:07] <chemisus> Severian, ok
[07:07] <Severian> chemisus, firstm go into synaptic and install    samba
[07:07] <dabaR> $20.
[07:07] <chemisus> Severian, did that already hehe
[07:08] <GTroy> anyone know a good rar opener?
[07:08] <Severian> OK, now we create the mount point where the share will go.  I usually use    sudo mkdir /public
[07:08] <aeon17x> !tell GTroy about rar
[07:08] <dabaR> GTroy: rar, unrar-nonfree. both packages.
[07:08] <Severian> chemisus,  OK, now we create the mount point where the share will go.  I usually use    sudo mkdir /public
[07:08] <lsald> 
[07:08] <lsald> 
[07:08] <lsald> 
[07:08] <lsald> 
[07:08] <aeon17x> kick that spammer, please
[07:09] <synd> lsald: Please stop.
[07:09] <lsald> sorry!
[07:09] <GTroy> aeon17x: thanks
[07:09] <dabaR> aeon17x: /msg ubotu msg the bot
[07:09] <humbolt> why can I use alsa with multible sound sources simultanously using gstreamer alsasink but not via "aoss skype" at the same time?
[07:09] <chemisus> Severian, i have a folder already i want to share
[07:09] <Severian> chemisus, what is the folder?
[07:10] <chemisus> Severian, just a folder named Files... i dont have to make it using sudo though do i?
[07:10] <chemisus> Severian, will make another one if i have to though
[07:10] <Severian> chemisus, it depends on where the folder is.  I need the full path name.
[07:10] <chemisus> /home/chemisus/Files
[07:11] <dabaR> chemisus: folders have permissions, an owner, and a group. even if that was improper at this time, you can change it all. so you would not have to make a new one, just change the wrong setting.
[07:11] <chemisus> ok
[07:11] <Severian> ok, now edit the samba config file.    sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:12] <iiiears> chemisus - I just right clicked on a folder in my home directory. answered a couple of questions when prompted and samba began installation automatically.
[07:12] <chemisus> hehe
[07:12] <chemisus> ok, i see the folder at the bottom of the list, and with 4 attributes all with value of yes
[07:12] <dm>  anyone firgure out how to make multimedia keys to work in KDE, play pause next previous, sound up down and mute
[07:12] <iiiears> smb: makes me nervous going to remove it pronto - ssh is much better.
[07:13] <Severian> chemisus, are you editing the file?
[07:13] <chemisus> Severian, yes
[07:15] <intelikey> l
[07:15] <Severian> chemisus, There are lots of ways to do this.  You can read a book on samba and you may want some setting different from what I use.  But I put the following       guest ok = yes   locking = no   writeable = yes   path = /home/chenisus/Files   public = yes   browseable = yes   force user = npbody
[07:16] <maxmouse> this may be adumb question, but is there a way to go from a 64 bit system to a 32 bit system without having to re-install?
[07:16] <intelikey> npbody ?
[07:16] <GTroy> uhmmm anyone tried 3ddesktop?
[07:16] <chemisus> Severian, ok, do i need to restart samba or anything?
[07:17] <Severian> chemisus, I also suggest some changes at the top of the file.   workgroup = YOURS    netbios name = LinuxRocks   map to guest = Bad User    hosts allow = 192.168.1.
[07:17] <Severian> chemisus, then save the file and do   /etc/init.d/samba restart
[07:18] <Severian> chemisus, you realize where I put YOURS, that you would put your own workgroup, right
[07:18] <chemisus> yea
[07:19] <chemisus> was npbody suppose to be nobody?
[07:19] <Severian> chemisus, that should be a good basic samba setup.
[07:19] <intelikey> that is what i asked  ^
[07:19] <dabaR> we know
[07:20] <intelikey> well dabaR, was it ?
[07:20] <Severian> chemisus, Yes I really meant nobody.  That is a special user name you already have defined.  You may want something else there, but I suggest starting with that.
[07:20] <dm> BROKEN_Ladder hey , you run KDE right? do you have multimedia buttons that work?
[07:20] <chemisus> ok, still cant seem to connect, but it might be a windows problem =/
[07:21] <chemisus> probably from domains or something
[07:21] <Severian> chemisus, Are your windows machines in a workgroup or a domain?
[07:21] <chemisus> workgroup
[07:21] <linuxgeek2> Hi folks I am new user of ubuntu
[07:21] <odie5533> Is there a way to burn a multisession cd on linux?
[07:21] <linuxgeek2> I am using fc4
[07:22] <iiiears> chemisus - windows doesn't refresh very often maybe every fifteen minutes or so.
[07:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> dm they don't work in kde
[07:22] <linuxgeek2> I want to install ubuntu on my laptop
[07:22] <Noata> fadora core 4 eh
[07:22] <Severian> When you say not working, can you be more specific?  what happens?
[07:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> but now that i'm in breezy, tons of things on my keyboard don't work.  x is afu.
[07:22] <linuxgeek2> Whow do I do a hard disk install
[07:22] <linuxgeek2> ?
[07:22] <dm> Broken_ladder why? are they going to fix that?
[07:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> dm i wish they would.  i dunno.  but kde is so vastly more mature than gnome i can't justify switching back for that.
[07:22] <chemisus> Severian, ok, each time i connect though, it prompts me for a user name and password. when i put in username it retries with a computer name first then username
[07:23] <chemisus> Severian, the computer name doesnt wont mess it up will it?
[07:23] <odie5533> Is there anyway to make a multisession cd on ubuntu?
[07:23] <Severian> chemisus, When it prompts you, just leave the fields blank.  What happens then?
[07:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh my god
[07:24] <intelikey> hmmmm nobody has a passwd of *  nice.
[07:24] <iiiears> chemisus - hm - my other machines show this one but not the shared folder. looks like editing samba.conf is absolutely inescapeable. - lol
[07:24] <chemisus> Severian, wont let me =P the ok box is disabled
[07:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> out of nowhere i have a new konqueror problem.  i love problems that happen for no apparent reason.
[07:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> out of the blue
[07:24] <Severian> chemisus, I did not get that.
[07:24] <cutie_girl> ?
[07:24] <dm> broken_ladder but they do plan on fixing it correct?
[07:24] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, is it a "vastly more mature" problem?  ;)
[07:25] <Severian> chemisus, just bring up a command prompt.  type net use R: \\192.168.1.111\share
[07:25] <linuxgeek2> how to install ubuntu onto the hard disk
[07:25] <linuxgeek2> how to install ubuntu onto the hard disk
[07:25] <linuxgeek2> how to install ubuntu onto the hard disk
[07:25] <linuxgeek2> how to install ubuntu onto the hard disk
[07:25] <linuxgeek2> how to install ubuntu onto the hard disk
[07:25] <linuxgeek2> plz help ?
[07:26] <odie5533> Hmm so is it possible to make a multisession cd from ubuntu?
[07:26] <intelikey> odie5533 sure
[07:26] <chemisus> hmm
[07:26] <chemisus> this is strange
[07:26] <odie5533> how?
[07:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> dm i wish they would.  i have no idea.
[07:27] <intelikey> odie5533 what app you using ?
[07:27] <odie5533> Gnomebaker
[07:27] <chemisus> i typed net use \\otter (otter = my linux box) and it prompts for user and pass, i put them in with my account and pass, and it says invalid
[07:27] <Severian> chemisus, if you want to see how the Linux side is handling things, look in /var/log/samba
[07:27] <chemisus> ok
[07:27] <intelikey> pass.   never used that one.        i like xcdroast.
[07:27] <iiiears> chemisus - first a prompt to log on to the remote machine - okay that seems fine - then a prompt for password for the machine i am already on. - seems odd to me.
[07:27] <odie5533> intelikey, is that for gnome?
[07:28] <intelikey> it's for X  yes it will run in gnome
[07:28] <Severian> chemisus, you don't show that you typed a drive letter.  It should be   net use r: \\otter\sharename
[07:28] <bjy83> how much file space will i need for a regular installation
[07:28] <odie5533> installing... so how do I do it on xcdroast?
[07:28] <chemisus> nah, i tried that also
[07:28] <roney>  vte_terminal_forkpty...,after I installed a new libvte,my gnom-terminal(no start) and synaptic(crash) are down...
[07:28] <tritium> bjy83, about 2GB, roughly
[07:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> i can't get konqueror to keep my view detailed.  i move directories and it goes back to icon.
[07:29] <bjy83> I have 1.9 and it said it couldn't fit it all
[07:29] <intelikey> odie5533 the check box is in plain sight on xcdroast  just look around.
[07:29] <bjy83> should I add like 500mb
[07:29] <odie5533> ok
[07:29] <iiiears> the windows machine shows the username and password already filled in but password is asterisks and clicking okay gets an invalid password response
[07:29] <Severian> chemisus, so show me exactly what you typed.  And look in that log directory.
[07:29] <roney> may anybody tell me what can I do?
[07:29] <intelikey> bbib
[07:30] <bjy83> would 2.4gb be enough, bucause it can't see to fit everything on 1.9gb?
[07:31] <litage> after installing postfix, i noticed that these files exist in /etc/postfix/. can i remove all world privileges from them?:   post-install, postfix-files, postfix-script
[07:31] <tritium> bjy83, it'll be tight.  Won't have much room for personal files
[07:31] <jamieter> hey all, im a complete linux newbie, can some one tell me how do i install something when i have all the install files needed on my harddrive
[07:31] <chemisus> Severian, hmm, in the log it has a lot of write errors
[07:31] <iiiears> Severian - should the path be \\backslashes\ or //forwardslashes/ ?
[07:31] <Severian> Bjoern-Erik, I have a pretty well setup Breezy box.  The root file system has 2.8 gig in use.
[07:31] <bjy83> tritium, what is your recommended minimum?
[07:32] <Severian> iiiears, \\
[07:32] <tristanmike> I'm getting a "MAIL FROM command failed: Must issue a STARTTLS command first 19sm1296053nzp." error when trying to send and email via evolution using pop, any ideas?
[07:32] <iiiears> Thx
[07:32] <tritium> bjy83, it depends on your needs, really, but 2.4 is a bit on the low side
[07:32] <duncanm> hmm
[07:32] <bjy83> im really not goint to be dling much
[07:32] <duncanm> so i bought a new DVD burner, and i successfully burned a DVD
[07:32] <bjy83> just sampling it a bit for a whle
[07:33] <Severian> chemisus, I can't quite see those errors from here.  Could you tell me what you see?
[07:33] <bjy83> I may be getting a new PC soon and converting this one to a linux rig
[07:33] <duncanm> now i put a new disk in, and it keeps on saying "Reload a rewritable or blank disc"
[07:33] <chemisus> Severian, [2005/10/27 01:20:24, 0]  lib/util_sock.c:send_smb(647)
[07:33] <chemisus>   Error writing 4 bytes to client. -1. (Connection reset by peer)
[07:33] <duncanm> what's going on?
[07:33] <bjy83> wondering it its enough to fool around with for a bit
[07:34] <Severian> chemisus, did you put nobody or some other user name?
[07:34] <chemisus> nobody!
[07:34] <grokker> is there a manual on how to use ldap? like for example when i have the slapd daemon already running?
[07:34] <grokker> thanks
[07:34] <bob2> grokker: ah, ldap is extremely complicated
[07:35] <grokker> oops sorry wrong channel
[07:35] <Neurosis> Hello
[07:35] <Neurosis> lol
[07:35] <mahangu> how hard is it to install flash for firefox?
[07:35] <Severian> chemisus, could you show me the net use command you used.  If you showed me, I missed it.
[07:35] <chemisus> Severian, net use r: \\otter\Files
[07:35] <duncanm> oh
[07:35] <Neurosis> i just installed ubuntu today
[07:35] <Neurosis> i love it
[07:36] <duncanm> what's this message about? Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?
[07:36] <duncanm> : Operation not permitted
[07:36] <grokker> they say ubuntu is better than sex is it?
[07:36] <duncanm> cdrecord: Found DVD+ media but DVD+R/DVD+RW support code is missing.
[07:36] <duncanm> cdrecord: If you need DVD+R/DVD+RW support, ask the Author for cdrecord-ProDVD.
[07:36] <Neurosis> i even put screen shots on my livejournal lmao
[07:36] <Severian> chemisus, what is the ip address of otter?
[07:36] <chemisus> 192.168.1.1
[07:36] <iiiears> Severian - I am wondering if Windows needs to be configured as multi-user password protected log on.  i can browse it's folders but it can't browse the folders on this linux machine.
[07:36] <chemisus> same
[07:36] <odie5533> How do I burn a cd with xcdroast?
[07:37] <tritium> odie5533, I think you'll find gnomebaker or graveman easier to use
[07:37] <Severian> iiiears, I doubt it.  I don't see how that would help.
[07:37] <tritium> or k3b, if you prefer kde
[07:37] <odie5533> tritium: Then how do I burn a multisession on one of those?
[07:37] <Korio> can anyone recommend any easy, yet simple window manager? except for fluxbox, blackbox, icewm and xfce
[07:37] <Korio> lol
[07:37] <Severian> chemisus, Do you know how to use pastebin?
[07:37] <chemisus> Severian, which site should i use?
[07:38] <bob2> Korio: it'd be easier if you explained your reasons for not wanting the
[07:38] <Severian> There is one that people use here a lot.  I think it is pastebin.com, but maybe someone will pipe up.
[07:38] <Korio> bob2, im just trying out as many as I can
[07:39] <thehil> What laptops are compatible with Fedora Linux?
[07:39] <iiiears> Severain - the windows machine prompts for a login while i am sitting in front of it. "localhost.localdomain"  - weird eh?
[07:39] <odie5533> Korio: Windowmaker
[07:39] <bob2> Korio: apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager
[07:39] <bob2> thehil: uh, #fedora
[07:39] <chemisus> what do you want me to paste?
[07:39] <chemisus> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:39] <chemisus> thats in the motd
[07:39] <Severian> iiiears, do you mean while the computer is starting?
[07:40] <Severian> chemisus, OK use that one
[07:40] <_native_> is there a  hostAP binary packege so i dont "have" to build from source?
[07:40] <odie5533> Can I burn a multisession data cd with gnomebaker or graveman?
[07:40] <Mabus06> How come I install games from synaptic, but I can't see them in the games menu under applications?
[07:41] <Severian> chemisus, and  put two things there.  Put the contents of /etc/samba/smb.conf  and the error log from /var/log/samba
[07:41] <odie5533> bob2: If you want to burn a simple data cd, what program do you use?
[07:41] <Mabus06> Howdy Severian!
[07:41] <Mabus06> Guess what OS I'm talking on? :D
[07:41] <bob2> odie5533: the file manager
[07:41] <odie5533> The File Manager? Or Nautilus?
[07:41] <Severian> Mabus06, Is this the Halifax fella?  How is it going?  Are you up and running now?
[07:42] <phiqtion> is there a program that will record the yahoo launch video streams? or is there a way to record such thing? thank you.
[07:42] <Mabus06> Yes, great, yes.
[07:42] <Mabus06> lol
[07:42] <Severian> Mabus06, Ubintu, I hope.
[07:42] <bob2> odie5533: one and the same
[07:42] <Mabus06> Ubuntu, yes
[07:42] <bob2> phiqtion: mplayer, probably
[07:42] <odie5533> bob2: Its burns data cds?
[07:42] <Mabus06> Got it working and connected.
[07:42] <bob2> odie5533: of course. just insert a blank cd.
[07:42] <phiqtion> bob2: how?
[07:42] <Mabus06> My problem now is installing programs using synaptic
[07:42] <chemisus> Severian, the log: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3682 and then the config: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3683
[07:42] <odie5533> wow I had no idea
[07:43] <bob2> phiqtion: mplayer -streamdump http://...
[07:43] <Severian> phiqtion, there is a way to use mplayer at the command line and have it save streams.  I have seen it done, but don't know the syntax, off hand.
[07:43] <chemisus> Severian, i moved the folder to desktop also
[07:44] <odie5533> bob2: When I try to write to disc it doesn't give my cd writer as an option to write to, only file image, any ideas?
[07:44] <Mabus06> So Severian, I tried to install Quake2
[07:44] <bob2> odie5533: the obvious...
[07:44] <Mabus06> But it doesn't appear in my games folder under applications.
[07:44] <bob2> nautils doesn't know or care about your burner
[07:44] <iiiears> Severain - "map network drive" >> Mshome tree appears > right click  'explore' on "Ubuntu-1.8" >>  title bar "Connect to localhost.localdomain" empty user/ password fill in ubuntu user info prompted for the same info but this time with the blanks filled in. clicking "Okay" does'nt help.
[07:44] <phiqtion> bob2: i will try that
[07:44] <odie5533> bob2: Then how do I burn to my burner?
[07:45] <Severian> chemisus, I think that looks like a firewall problem with Windows.  Are you running XP with the firewall on?
[07:45] <_native_> install Gnome baker
[07:45] <odie5533> Why won't nautilus let me burn to it? Is there any way to tell it its a cd burner?
[07:45] <bob2> odie5533: nevermind then
[07:45] <chemisus> nope
[07:45] <Mabus06> Severian, I tried to install Quake2 using synaptic but it is not found under applications>games
[07:45] <Severian> Mabus06, Some programs don't add a menu item.  You can add those easily enough with smeg.
[07:46] <Mabus06> How
[07:46] <iiiears> Severian - "localhost.localdomain" login on th windows box?
[07:46] <phiqtion> bob2: where that command saves the file to?
[07:46] <bob2> phiqtion: pwd
[07:46] <Severian> Mabus, Applications/System Tool/Applications Menu Editor
[07:47] <phiqtion> bob2: pwd?
[07:47] <odie5533> bob2: So is there anyway to then burn a cd with nautilus?
[07:47] <iiiears> Severain - Thanks i think i learned something.
[07:47] <Severian> iiiears, Mabus06 , and chemisus   I have to step away for 5 minutes. I'll be back.
[07:47] <Mabus06> Okay Severian, I'm at that menu but how do I add quake? Where is it found?
[07:47] <user__> heeee
[07:47] <bob2> phiqtion: ...run it.
[07:47] <user__> cxvfhtjyuk
[07:47] <user__> klklkl
[07:47] <user__> eeeee
[07:48] <bob2> odie5533: yes, of course, not in the mood to walk you through it, tho, sorry
[07:48] <bob2> user__: enough
[07:48] <duncanm> hmmm
[07:48] <duncanm> Executing 'builtin_dd if=/home/duncan/image.iso of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=0'
[07:48] <duncanm> :-( /dev/hdd: 2295104 blocks are free, 2296258 to be written!
[07:48] <duncanm> what's the deal?
[07:48] <Mabus06> There is no Quake option with a checkbox to check or uncheck in the menu editor, Severian
[07:48] <phiqtion> bob2: firefox can't enter launch yahoo. i need netscape on ubuntu. anyways, im just trying to download nirvana's videos on high quality. any other place you might know of?
[07:49] <bob2> phiqtion: this plan will not invloving using a browser
[07:49] <dabaR> bob2: all your base are belong to us
[07:49] <bob2> phiqtion: get the url out of the page and run mplayer from the command line.
[07:49] <phiqtion> bob2: to get the url i first need the nirvana video link
[07:50] <phiqtion> bob2: only way is accessing the website
[07:50] <iiiears> Mabus - many apps are installed to your home folder but the files are hidden by a period .quake  - Ctrl+H may show where it is in your home folder  (unhide)
[07:50] <jamieter> i hav the ooo2 install files on my desktop, can anyone help me with installing it? iv never installed anything on linux/ubuntu b4
[07:51] <Mabus06> iiiears: I am a complete noob at this
[07:51] <iiiears> np - me too (June)
[07:51] <Mabus06> me more.. (today_
[07:51] <Mabus06> :D
[07:52] <iiiears> Mabus - Welcome to the linux community! :)!
[07:53] <iiiears> linux is unlimited freedom.
[07:53] <Neurosis> i am realy loving this OS
[07:54] <Mabus06> Well I got my LAN to work today, first day linux was working properly.
[07:54] <_native_> yeah its good
[07:54] <Mabus06> Went months without getting my darn windows lan to work.
[07:54] <_native_> still has some quirks though
[07:54] <shadyb0x> hey anyone in here know what the heck is up with the realplayer install on breezy
[07:54] <shadyb0x> runs some kinda installer thats looking for an rpm?
[07:54] <Severian> Mabus06, If there is no option and I did not expect there would be, you have to add one.
[07:54] <cevizoglu> shadyb0x, read the ubuntu realplayer docs
[07:54] <shadyb0x> when i put in the dir path for the .deb
[07:54] <shadyb0x> i thought i did....
[07:55] <shadyb0x> ubuntuguide?
[07:55] <bob2> shadyb0x: why are you installing realplayer at all?
[07:55] <cevizoglu> !realplayer
[07:55] <ubotu> [realplayer]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:55] <shadyb0x> bob2, what else would you recommend?
[07:55] <iiiears> Mabus - i learned a neat trick today check this out. in a terminal try this  "zenity --list --checklist --column "Buy"  --column  "Item"  TRUE Apples TRUE Oranges FALSE Pears FALSE Toothpaste
[07:55] <iiiears> "
[07:55] <shadyb0x> thx ubotu
[07:55] <cevizoglu> !tell shadyb0x about ubuntuguide
[07:56] <phiqtion> how can i run windows xp in ubuntu? is there such package? like vmware? thank you
[07:56] <Severian> chemisus, are you still here.  Any luck with the firewall setting, or was I wrong about your version.
[07:56] <cevizoglu> !botsnack
[07:56] <ubotu> thanks cevizoglu :)
[07:56] <propagandhi> phiqtion: yeah vmware is good for that
[07:56] <bob2> shadyb0x: to do what?
[07:57] <tristanmike> phiqtion, you can also use Wine
[07:57] <tristanmike> !tell phiqtion about wine
[07:57] <shadyb0x> ok wow, thanks for the ubuntuguide update
[07:57] <shadyb0x> just did a fresh install was using hoary b4
[07:57] <shadyb0x> bob2, i want to stream .pls
[07:57] <Severian> phiqtion, you could run a windows virtual machine in a vmware player hosted on Ubuntu.  But, why would you want to.  XP is awful.
[07:57] <propagandhi> using wine to run windows wouldnt be very easy
[07:57] <bob2> shadyb0x: realplayer is probably the worst possible choice
[07:57] <propagandhi> if at all possible
[07:57] <bob2> propagandhi: wine doesn't run windows at all
[07:58] <bob2> or try to
[07:58] <shadyb0x> bob2, what would you suggest?
[07:58] <shadyb0x> bob2, kaffeine is crap, cpu hog
[07:58] <propagandhi> I didnt imagine so
[07:58] <bob2> shadyb0x: anything else.  I'd use mplayer, but xmms or rhytmbox (installed by default) work ok
[07:58] <phiqtion> Severian: where can i get vmware from?
[07:58] <Severian> bob2, I am not crazy about RealPlayer.  But I like the streaming audio from the BBC and it is only in realmeadia format.
[07:58] <bob2> phiqtion: www.vmware.com
[07:58] <bob2> Severian: mplayer can play that
[07:58] <iiiears> phiqtion - yes, vmware is good. Cedega works pretty well and is easy to use also (Winex)  is much less expensive
[07:58] <cevizoglu> that's odd.. ubotu's faq looks like it's out of date
[07:59] <shadyb0x> !faq
[07:59] <ubotu> [faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://help.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[07:59] <Severian> phiqtion, www.vmware.com   The player itself is now free, but you have to have the commercial version($200) to create the virtual machines.
[07:59] <cevizoglu> !faq
[07:59] <ubotu> The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[08:00] <Severian> bob2, I'll try again.  I had bad luck in the past.  Thanks.
[08:00] <firestorm> Hi. I'm using ms true type font Times for my OO.o drawing. When I export to PDF it looks very bad. As I have 80 text areas in the drawing I don't want to manually change font 80 times...is there a nice way to make a global font change?
[08:00] <Severian> iiiears, OK, what was your login problem?
[08:00] <iiiears> phiqtion - windows is really good at directx applications (games) - linux is for everything else certaainly anything on the 'net it is much safer.
[08:01] <iiiears> Severain - lol - thanks for your help. i am going to use ssh instead.
[08:01] <Severian> iiiears, and when I need a Windows to run some directx app, I use Windows 2000.  It is much less evil than XP.
[08:01] <bob2> Severian: it may require windows dlls for that
[08:01] <bob2> phiqtion: note that vmware is of no use for games
[08:01] <bob2> last I checked, anyway
[08:01] <Severian> iiiears, ok.
[08:02] <YokoZar> I packaged up Wine 0.9 for Ubuntu, if you're wondering
[08:02] <Severian> YokoZar, why.  Didn't they just release 1.0
[08:02] <YokoZar> umm
[08:02] <YokoZar> no
[08:02] <YokoZar> We released 0.9
[08:02] <YokoZar> Our beta release
[08:03] <Severian> YokoZar, OK, then.  That is good then.
[08:03] <YokoZar> And there's an ubuntu package here: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[08:03] <iiiears> YokoZar, - Very nice. :)
[08:07] <LaschW> May anyone give me a helping hand how to get rid of "The platform you are running is not supported by this tool" message on supported systems (Ububntu Breezy; upgrade from Debian Sid). Its a message which always pops up in users-admin, anoying indeed...
[08:07] <Mabus06> Severian: You said I had to add an option... how do I do that?
[08:08] <Severian> I decided you were gone and I just closed the program.  Hold a minute.
[08:09] <Severian> Mabus06, Do you have smeg open?
[08:11] <cevizoglu> LaschW, you upgraded from Debian Sid???   :O
[08:11] <LaschW> cevizoglu: Yepp
[08:12] <wx9j> what is the defalt player for an MP3 file in ubuntu
[08:12] <aftertaf> wx9j:  depends which version...
[08:12] <LaschW> cevizoglu: Updating over the last months. Sid repositories removed a month ago
[08:12] <Severian> wx9j, Open nautilu.  Double click on an mp3 file.  What does it bring up?
[08:12] <wx9j> Breezy, it tries to use totem but that says I have not got the right decoder
[08:12] <aftertaf> wx9j:  and you can change it...
[08:13] <cevizoglu> wx9j, on Breezy, I think it's totem
[08:13] <Severian> ubotu, tell wx9j about RestrictedFormats
[08:13] <wx9j> yes I will probably go to xmms but do not know why totem will not work
[08:13] <Mabus06> Yes Sev, I have smeg open
[08:13] <aftertaf> wx9j:  instal the codecs that ubotu told you about
[08:13] <wx9j> where do I find them ?
[08:14] <lunatech> wx9j: it is rhythmbox
[08:14] <phiqtion> tristanmike: on the tutorial about winetools, IE6 won't download. maybe link is dead?
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> Quick question: I installed Istanbul Desktop Session Recorder, and I wanted to use that to show a friend who is still running Windows what Breezy is like.  It records video in ogg format, and I was wondering whether / what Windows apps would play that.  (I've heard of ogg audio, but not video.)  Any suggestions?
[08:14] <Severian> Mabus06, select Games in the first column and press the "New Entry" button at the bottom towards the right.
[08:14] <Mabus06> got that far already
[08:14] <Mabus06> what now
[08:15] <Severian> Mabus06, what program do you want to add a menu item for.  Pick one to start.
[08:15] <Mabus06> Quake 2
[08:15] <tristanmike> phiqtion, don't use wine, but if i understand correctly, you should be able to download ie6 from microsoft's site and install it, i think, but again, I have never used it, just know of its existance
[08:15] <bob2> tonyyarusso: ogg is not an audio or video format, it's a container, like avi
[08:15] <Severian> Mabus06, did you install Quake 2 from Synaptic?
[08:15] <Mabus06> yes
[08:15] <bob2> tonyyarusso: the video would be theora, and there are windows directshow dlls for it
[08:15] <cevizoglu> phiqtion, the wine pages say that IE 5.5 works well with wine
[08:15] <wx9j> aftertaf, where do I find the plugins for totem and how are they installed ?
[08:16] <iiiears> Quake 2 is open source now? - Ah the memories. - grin
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> bob2: I see.  So it should be fine?
[08:16] <Severian> Mabus, if you don't know the name of the executable, we have to find that first.  Do you know it?
[08:16] <bob2> tonyyarusso: if they install the decoder, yes
[08:16] <Mabus06> no
[08:16] <Mabus06> whatever the default it is when you install quake using synaptic
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> bob2: Sounds good.  Thanks!
[08:16] <cevizoglu> does Quake2 require any other files to be installed?  or just Quake2-data
[08:16] <YokoZar> phiqtion: don't use winetools (out of date).  There's a tutorial for how to install IE somewhere else...
[08:16] <Mabus06> quake2-data, but that was installed using synaptic too
[08:16] <bob2> tonyyarusso: (you could use mencoder or something else to convert theora to mpeg-2 or something else that windows can play natively)
[08:16] <YokoZar> This stuff should probably end up at Ubuntuguide once I figure it out
[08:17] <Severian> Mabus06, OK, open synaptic, and search for quake 2.  select the item and press the properties button at the top.
[08:17] <iiiears> cevizoglu, - hm, were you thinking that the map .bsp files would still be unavailable?
[08:17] <cevizoglu> that's odd, because launching quake2 gives me the error "Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx"
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> bob2: Can I get that with apt?
[08:18] <bob2> tonyyarusso: yes, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:18] <bob2> cevizoglu: you need to have the pak files in the right location
[08:18] <aftertaf> tonyyarusso:  yep.... and mplayer is fantastic with mencoder....
[08:19] <iiiears> cevizoglu, - how large is the synaptic Q2 install?
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> bob2: I'll take a look.  That might be a little easier for the person on the other end.
[08:19] <shadyb0x> so where are you saying we get these quake 2 maps?
[08:19] <Mabus06> what next sev
[08:19] <phiqtion> can i use RPM on ubuntu? or is there any way to convert it to DEB? Thanks
[08:19] <bob2> phiqtion: man alien
[08:19] <AMDXP> i have a flashcard reader for my camera I have to mount it in order to use it correct even though it automounts my digicam
[08:19] <iiiears> shadyb0x - not too sure unless you already own the CD
[08:19] <bob2> phiqtion: it's best to find stuff in less silly formats, tho (e.g. source tarballs)
[08:20] <cevizoglu> iiiears, looks like 9k and 1.2mb
[08:20] <Xitium> when I open synaptic i get this error >> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3684
[08:20] <phiqtion> bob2: im downloading vmware. should i download RPM or TAR ?
[08:20] <Severian> Mabus06, go to the Installed Files tab.   Scroll throygh the list looking for the executable.  It will probably be a file under /usr/bin
[08:20] <AMDXP> tar
[08:20] <bob2> phiqtion: tar
[08:20] <Mabus06> installed files tab?
[08:20] <bob2> Xitium: that errors seems pretty clear...
[08:20] <iiiears> cevizoglu - ah, okay. - can't be the whole thing CD is almost 500 mbs
[08:21] <Xitium> i just got this installed and working never used synaptic before not sure how i can fix it
[08:21] <Severian> You said you had pressed the Properties button.
[08:21] <phiqtion> bob2: can you help me install it? will these make it available in the gnome menu?
[08:21] <Severian> Mabus, You said you had pressed the Properties button.
[08:21] <Mabus06> oh right
[08:21] <aftertaf> you need the data files still thogh right? quake2 ?
[08:21] <Mabus06> looking in wrong place
[08:21] <bob2> Xitium: did you read the error?
[08:21] <Xitium> yeah
[08:22] <bob2> Xitium: it tells you exactly what is wrong...you have duplicate lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:22] <Mabus06> Severian: I don't see an executable file?
[08:22] <bob2> phiqtion: there's little to do, just follow the instructions
[08:22] <Mabus06> Is it not like windows? (exe)
[08:22] <iiiears> aftertaf - yes, likely you need to install it on windows to open the cab files and then copy the installed game to linux and overwrite the windows exe with a linux executable.
[08:22] <phiqtion> bob2: what's man alien?
[08:22] <bob2> phiqtion: get the tarball
[08:22] <Severian> Mabus06, can you post the entire list to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[08:23] <melvztechie> bob2: hello thanks for helping me out on mrtg yesterday, its workin now but how can I run it as daemon and wont need to start manully?
[08:23] <bob2> uh
[08:23] <Severian> Mabus06, then put the url back in this list.
[08:23] <aftertaf> you use the cd or download shareware data
[08:23] <bob2> it already runs as a daemon
[08:23] <Xitium> bob2, how did it get that way I just installed ubuntu and I get that error
[08:23] <bob2> Xitium: no idea
[08:23] <bob2> melvztechie: it runs out of cron
[08:23] <Severian> phiqtion, Be aware that to do VMWare right you should have a gig of ram or better.
[08:24] <Mabus06> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3685
[08:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> breezy gives me more bugs every day.
[08:24] <phiqtion> Severian: i got 1gb and 2gb swap
[08:24] <Xitium> bob2,  is it ok to go and remove one?
[08:24] <bob2> Xitium: yes
[08:24] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: are you reporting them?
[08:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 you're right.  i should.
[08:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> what program do you suggest for reporting bugs?
[08:25] <phiqtion> bob2: i downloaded the tarball
[08:25] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[08:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> k
[08:25] <Severian> Mabus06, look at /usr/games/quake2   Is that an executable file.
[08:25] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: your web browser
[08:25] <melvztechie> bob2: but if for example i restarted my server, i need to run it manually again, okey ill just check in my cron jobs
[08:25] <bpf> hi all
[08:26] <bob2> melvztechie: no
[08:26] <bob2> melvztechie: it's already running as a cron job
[08:26] <Severian> Mabus06, It probably is.  Do you know how to tell?
[08:27] <phiqtion> bob2: i downloaded the tarball
[08:27] <melvztechie> bob2: oh okey, thanks again;)
[08:27] <bpf> i was just reading about Network Magic (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkMagic). is there a package to install it? there aren't any instructions on how to get it
[08:28] <srbaker> hey
[08:28] <Mabus06> I got an error, Sev.
[08:28] <srbaker> anyone know fo an RSS aggregator that will, when given a blog, and a planet that syndicates that blog know when i've read an article that appears in both places?
[08:28] <bob2> phiqtion: great
[08:28] <bob2> bpf: no, that's a proposal
[08:28] <aeon17x> !restricted
[08:28] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[08:28] <bob2> bpf: networkmanager is close
[08:28] <phiqtion> can anyone help me install vmware? people here tell me to download a "tarball" and then don't help. i just downloaded the vmware player tarball. what do i do next? thank you
[08:29] <Mabus06> Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[08:29] <bpf> bob2, thx. how well does networkmanager work?
[08:29] <bob2> bpf: try and see
[08:29] <bob2> phiqtion: uh
[08:29] <fr33mind> I want to : apt-get install phppgadmin.  But... The following packages will be REMOVED:
[08:29] <fr33mind>   libapache2-mod-php5 php5
[08:29] <fr33mind>    and I don't want to remove PHP5 !!!
[08:29] <bpf> heh
[08:29] <bob2> phiqtion: now you read the documentation
[08:29] <Severian> Mabus06, I don't understand.  How could you get an error looking to see if the file is executable?
[08:30] <Mabus06> I tried to run it
[08:30] <Mabus06> from the terminal
[08:30] <aftertaf> fr33mind:  dont install phppgadmin then... it must have conflicts with php5
[08:30] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  you dont have the 40Mb of data.
[08:30] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:30] <phiqtion> can i convert a RPM to DEB? and will install everything and even the menu?
[08:30] <bob2> phiqtion: no
[08:30] <Severian> Mabus06, whell that was not so good an idea, I suppose.  Now tell me if it is an executable file, please.
[08:30] <bob2> phiqtion: now, stop what you're doing
[08:30] <jenda> phiqtion: YES! Use alien
[08:30] <bob2> phiqtion: and go back to the vmware site
[08:31] <Mabus06> The only way I know how to do that is trying how to execute it.
[08:31] <fr33mind> phiqtion, aliens ___.rpm
[08:31] <Mabus06> Keep in mind I've been using windows for a decade, linux for a few hours.
[08:31] <fr33mind> phiqtion, sudo apt-get install aliens
[08:31] <jenda> phiqtion: But follow bob2's instructions...
[08:31] <Severian> Mabus06, do   ls -l /usr/games/quake2
[08:31] <bob2> phiqtion: http://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/ws_install_linux.html#wp1031176
[08:32] <aftertaf> quake2 is hashed (/usr/games/quake2)
[08:32] <aftertaf> $ type quake2
[08:32] <fr33mind> aftertaf, phppgadmin works with php5...
[08:32] <Mabus06> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 686 2005-09-05 23:29 /usr/games/quake2
[08:32] <aftertaf> fr33mind:  then there moust be another conflict somewhere that makes it want/need to remove php5
[08:33] <Severian> aftertaf, what do you mean it is hashed?  I don't know what that would mean for an executable.
[08:33] <fr33mind> aftertaf, it want to install php4 :p
[08:33] <thewayofzen> is anyone free to help me with an explanation of how to change a FAT /dev/hdb1 to a ext3 /dev/hdb1
[08:33] <bob2> thewayofzen: mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb1
[08:33] <fr33mind> is it possible to modify dependencies by hand?
[08:33] <thewayofzen> bob2,  no need to repartition or anything?
[08:33] <thewayofzen> just bang and thats it
[08:33] <bob2> fr33mind: it conflicts for a reason
[08:33] <aeon17x> I was about to say you format it. >_>
[08:33] <bob2> thewayofzen: you're not partitioning, you're making a filesystem
[08:34] <Severian> Mabus06, I see there is a man page, or it looks like there is.  try    man quake2
[08:34] <thewayofzen> bob2,  so its THAT easy
[08:34] <aftertaf> fr33mind:  there you go,a dependancy error. contact the maintainer....
[08:34] <thewayofzen> shoot thanks
[08:34] <bob2> thewayofzen: windows kinda mixes those two concepts up a bit
[08:34] <thewayofzen> bob2,  u are always WICKED good to help.
[08:34] <fr33mind> forget it.. I will install from .tar.gz.
[08:35] <Mabus06> didn't really explain much, Severian
[08:35] <Severian> Mabus06, does it tell you how to start the program?
[08:35] <Mabus06> the manual
[08:35] <citrosack> hello   i just made a fileserver using  and i use xfce as the DE can i start XFCE thru starx and not thru a bulky DM like GDM  ? and set up some kinda VNC so i can access it thru other computers?
[08:35] <Mabus06> by typing quake2
[08:36] <Mabus06> which I already tried
[08:36] <Mabus06> and gave me an error
[08:36] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  did it ask you to download or rovide the quake2 data files?
[08:36] <Mabus06> aftertaf: I already downloaded the quake2 data files from synaptic
[08:36] <Severian> Mabus06, so the Quake2 in the repository is probably not really working.
[08:36] <aftertaf> citrosack:  yep. you put it in .xinitrc and deactivate gdm
[08:36] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  not same thing....
[08:37] <aftertaf> QUake 2 once installed, asks you to download nonfree level files that cant be part of the repos.
[08:37] <Mabus06> So quake2 is not free?
[08:37] <phiqtion> bob2: unable to find "make" program
[08:37] <bob2> phiqtion: install build-essential
[08:38] <Mabus06> Oh and, how easy is it for me to make a backup Severian?
[08:38] <Severian> Mabus06, evidently the license on some parts of quake2 is not sufficiently free.
[08:38] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  not free != non free ....     it is free, but not freely available as open source
[08:38] <Mabus06> I want to get my video card running, but I don't want to completely mess up everything again.
[08:38] <Mabus06> I've installed linux enough times for the past day.
[08:38] <Severian> Mabus06, What are you going to backup to?
[08:39] <Mabus06> Don't know.
[08:39] <Severian> Mabus06, How can that be.  I think we only did it a few times.
[08:39] <Mabus06> My windows machine, maybe?
[08:39] <Mabus06> Yes but I've been working while you were gone, too.
[08:40] <Mabus06> I have like 60 gigs on my XP machine, I could backup to it I think.
[08:40] <Mabus06> Then again I don't know what I'm talking about.
[08:40] <Severian> Mabus, I don't know a simple way. to do that backup.
[08:40] <Mabus06> Oh.
[08:40] <Mabus06> Well someone, I think mustard5, reccomended I do that.
[08:40] <iiiears> Quake 2 links  -  http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Quake-HOWTO-3.html
[08:41] <Mabus06> thanks iiiears.
[08:41] <phiqtion> bob2: it's asking me to locate the "make" program by hand. should i type no? if not, what do i type? i already installed "make" with that command you gave me.
[08:42] <Severian> phiqtion, open another terminal prompt and type   which make
[08:42] <bob2> phiqtion: what does "dpkg -l build-essential | tail -n1" print out?
[08:42] <phiqtion> Severian: thanks
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> bob2: Um, so man pages are a beast; do you happen to know how to use it to encode to mpeg?  Otherwise I'll do some reading when it's a more sensible hour.
[08:43] <phiqtion> bob2: Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[08:43] <phiqtion> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2".
[08:44] <dougsko> anyone use bitpim?
[08:44] <bob2> phiqtion: there you go
[08:44] <bob2> phiqtion: CC=gcc-3.4 ./vmwareconfig...
[08:44] <phiqtion> bob2: that last command? please explain
[08:45] <thewayofzen> bob2,  any chance u know the proper fstab for the new /dev/hdb1  so that all users on the system can read and write to the drive?
[08:45] <phiqtion> bob2: the setup was aborted after it displayed that error message
[08:46] <Mabus06> Anyone (Severian, maybe?) have advice for getting my GeForce FX 5500 to work?
[08:46] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  use linux-restricted-modules NVIDIA drivers
[08:46] <jan__> NVIDIA guide on the Unoffical Ubuntu GUide site
[08:46] <bob2> thewayofzen: you don't set user permissions in /etc/fstab for unix filesystems
[08:46] <bob2> thewayofzen: that's just a cheap hack to work around the fact fat32 and ntfs don't store unix permissions
[08:46] <thewayofzen> bob2,  so i just need to chown or chgrp the mount point
[08:46] <bob2> thewayofzen: you use chmod on the filesystem itself
[08:46] <bob2> thewayofzen: once it's mounted, yes
[08:46] <bob2> phiqtion: run the version I gave you then
[08:46] <Mabus06> aftertaf: what do you mean?
[08:47] <thewayofzen> bob2,  so if its not letting anyone other then root user.. i unmount.. remount as a reg user and then ?
[08:47] <bob2> thewayofzen: ?
[08:47] <bob2> thewayofzen: no, you just set the permissions on the filesystem with chmod to whatever you want
[08:47] <thewayofzen> bob2,  i think that was my way of saying "shoot im lost"
[08:47] <jan__> Q: How to install Graphics Driver (NVIDIA)?
[08:47] <jan__>    1. Read General Notes
[08:47] <jan__>    2. Read How to add extra repositories?
[08:47] <jan__>    3.
[08:47] <jan__> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:47] <jan__> sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[08:47] <jan__> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[08:48] <jan__> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:48] <jan__> sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop
[08:48] <Mabus06> heh
[08:48] <phiqtion> bob2: command not found
[08:48] <jenda> thewayofzen: o no no... keep it mounted, but run the chmod command (waht as it now)
[08:48] <thewayofzen> bob2,  ive never used chmod before. chown and chgrp yes
[08:48] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  jan said something and sacrificed himself to explain ;)
[08:48] <jenda> thewayofzen: *what was it now...
[08:48] <phiqtion> bob2: what do you mean by: CC=gcc-3.4 ./vmwareconfig...
[08:49] <thewayofzen> brw-rw----  1 root disk 3, 65 2005-10-27 03:15 /dev/hdb1
[08:49] <bob2> phiqtion: I mean, "type that into your terminal and hit enter"
[08:49] <bob2> thewayofzen: ignore that
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> bob: Ignore that last one, I think I may of gotten it...
[08:49] <thewayofzen> bob2, ok..?
[08:49] <bob2> thewayofzen: if it's a ext3 partition on a fixed hard disk, it will be mounted by /etc/fstab
[08:49] <phiqtion> bob2: no such file or directory
[08:49] <bob2> thewayofzen: the permissions you care about are the ones on where it is mounted
[08:49] <thewayofzen> bob2,  as in the /mnt/media
[08:49] <thewayofzen> the mount point i created
[08:50] <aftertaf> phiqtion:  what was the command you typed?
[08:50] <bob2> phiqtion: uh, use some lateral thinking and expand "./vmwareconfig..." to whatever script the isntructions told you to run...
[08:50] <bob2> thewayofzen: if it's mounted, yes
[08:50] <thewayofzen> ok
[08:50] <Sp4rKy> anyone know what could i do when i've this message "djplay.cpp: In function int main(int, char**):
[08:50] <Sp4rKy> djplay.cpp:113: erreur: QWindowsStyle was not declared in this scope" during compilation
[08:50] <phiqtion> bob2: using you're so called "lateral thinking" and that's when the bash told me command not found
[08:50] <bob2> Sp4rKy: the code is broken
[08:51] <bob2> phiqtion: so show us what you ran, including your promopt
[08:51] <n0odl3> how do i remove flux box?
[08:51] <Mabus06> yeah I saw that, aftertaf. lol
[08:51] <n0odl3> is it sudo apt-get remove fluxbox?
[08:51] <Sp4rKy> bob2, thx, and what could i do ?
[08:51] <bob2> Sp4rKy: talk to whoever wrote it
[08:51] <Sp4rKy> nOodl3 apt-get remove fluxbox :/
[08:51] <wiwolf> hi. i'm trying to figure out why my setup for apache on breezy can't run php. i've set LoadModule php4_module, and other stuff in my httpd.conf
[08:51] <phiqtion> bob2: CC=gcc-3.5 ./vmware-install.pl
[08:51] <phiqtion> bob2: 4 sorry
[08:51] <Mabus06> little unimportant question... why is the graphic for python files a cobra?
[08:51] <Sp4rKy> bob2 , the line 113 is : "QWindowsStyle *style=new QWindowsStyle;"
[08:51] <wiwolf> apache starts fine but when i go to an index.php page, firefox gives me a download prompt
[08:52] <HrdwrBoB> Mabus06: it's a "python"
[08:52] <bob2> phiqtion: that does not include your prompt
[08:52] <bob2> wiwolf: apache2 does not use httpd.conf
[08:52] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to remove flux box?
[08:52] <Mabus06> HrdwrBoB: snakes with that shape head are cobras
[08:52] <bob2> Sp4rKy: their code is broken, you'll need to talk to them
[08:52] <wiwolf> bob2: i did apt-get install apache. does that install apache2?
[08:52] <Mabus06> spitting cobra, king cobra, etc
[08:52] <bob2> n0odl3: uh, 4 people told you how
[08:52] <bob2> wiwolf: no
[08:52] <n0odl3> oh sorry
[08:53] <n0odl3> thank you
[08:53] <Sp4rKy> bob2, do you know how ?
[08:53] <Mabus06> pythons don't have that crown-like head
[08:53] <wiwolf> apache -v
[08:53] <wiwolf> Server version: Apache/1.3.33 (Debian GNU/Linux)
[08:53] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  we dont care!!!!!!! :p
[08:53] <Mabus06> lol
[08:53] <wiwolf> bob2: i seem to have apache 1.3.33
[08:53] <phiqtion> bob2: what's the command due
[08:53] <Sp4rKy> bob2 , it's strange, the soft seems work correctly over other distro
[08:53] <phiqtion> dude
[08:53] <yi> i'm having a weird sound problem, sound works fine in mplayer but with mpg321 it gives me
[08:53] <yi> Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)
[08:53] <yi> any ideas?
[08:53] <bob2> wiwolf: yes, then read /usr/share/doc/libapache-mod-php4/README.Debian
[08:54] <bob2> Sp4rKy: talk to the author
[08:54] <bob2> Sp4rKy: I'm not going to unfuck someone's shitty Qt code over irc, sorry
[08:54] <aftertaf> yi:  esd is blocking sound maybe?
[08:54] <fimion> Okay, i have a touch screen, and I have it working, but i'm wanting a better graphical interface so i can use the touchscreen better. anyone have any ideas?
[08:54] <bob2> Sp4rKy: perhaps they're using an older compiler that was more tolerant of broken code
[08:54] <Mitja> Hi! I installed ubuntu, but now I cannot see Fedora which was previously installed when I boot. What should I do?
[08:54] <yi> aftertaf: esd isn't running
[08:55] <Mr_Milenko> did you install to another partition?
[08:55] <Hhhhh> keep it that way? ;)
[08:55] <wiwolf> bob2: locate libapache |grep -i readme
[08:55] <phiqtion> bob2: what's the command?
[08:55] <Mr_Milenko> or the same partition O_o
[08:55] <Sp4rKy> bob2, ok, i'm trying with gcc3.4
[08:55] <bob2> phiqtion: stop it
[08:55] <Mitja> Mr_Milenko: yes
[08:55] <wiwolf> bob2: no file but i'll google for it
[08:55] <bob2> phiqtion: show us what you actually ran, or go away (including your prompt)
[08:55] <Mr_Milenko> yes...what
[08:55] <bluefrog-10> Mitja, u have to edit grub and write the entry for FC
[08:55] <Mitja> Mr_Milenko: another partition
[08:55] <Mr_Milenko> oh
[08:55] <yi> aftertaf: hurmm i see
[08:55] <Mr_Milenko> hmm
[08:55] <Mitja> bluefrog-10: where do I do that?
[08:55] <yi> aftertaf: it doesn't work *because* esd wasn't running
[08:56] <phiqtion> bob2: can't scroll up again
[08:56] <yi> that's quite annoying...
[08:56] <Hhhhh> Mitja, keep it that way? ;)
[08:56] <bluefrog-10> Mitja, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:56] <yi> aftertaf: how do i turn off esd?
[08:56] <Mitja> bluefrog-10: thanks
[08:56] <bob2> phiqtion: that's awesome
[08:56] <elephanthunter> sudo pkill esd?
[08:56] <bob2> phiqtion: now show us what I asked for
[08:56] <witless> how do i create a calculated column in an OOo2 Base query?
[08:56] <witless> oops wrong channel
[08:56] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:57] <CaiN_SA> ok guys, i have a custom menu.lst for grub, when i do a dpkg-reconfigure for linux-image-`uname -r`, that file gets overwitten where is thos default stuff stored ?
[08:57] <cevizoglu> Mitja, be sure to back up the file before you edit it; like:  "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.bak.lst"
[08:57] <varsedangger> i just installed ubuntu last night and i can't get firefox connected to the internet
[08:57] <bob2> varsedangger: that's not a question
[08:57] <elephanthunter> yi: sudo pkill esd?
[08:58] <yi> but that causes sound _not_ to work
[08:58] <phiqtion> bob2: you wanna help or what? i already said the terminal won't let me scroll up to find what i typed because im running the installation again?
[08:58] <phiqtion> again..
[08:58] <bob2> varsedangger: to help you, you'd need to tell us what sort of connection you have, if it ever worked, and what you've tried to do to connect so far.
[08:58] <bob2> phiqtion: holy god
[08:58] <bob2> phiqtion: I cannot see your screen
[08:58] <bob2> phiqtion: unless you show me what it says, I have no idea what you did wrong
[08:58] <Mr_Milenko> phiqtion: rm -rf / and try again
[08:58] <elephanthunter> yi: what are you expecting when you "turn off" esd? :)
[08:59] <bob2> phiqtion: so, either fix your terminal, or run it again and show me the whole thing in #flood
[08:59] <CaiN_SA> bob2, do you know maby ?
[08:59] <bob2> CaiN_SA: read the file
[08:59] <Mabus06> brb all
[08:59] <phiqtion> Mr_milenko: that command is erasing everything or no?
[08:59] <yi> elephanthunter: sound to work
[08:59] <CaiN_SA> which file bob2 ?
[08:59] <yi> elephanthunter: sound support shouldn't depend on the existence of esd
[09:00] <bob2> CaiN_SA: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:00] <iiiears> *Gives bob2 a cold Pepsi and a hearty thanks. :)
[09:00] <phiqtion> damn Mr_milenko..
[09:00] <CaiN_SA> bob2, it gets overwritten by something else :/
[09:00] <elephanthunter> yi: hmm... you'd have to ask somebody else I suppose
[09:00] <Mr_Milenko> ...
[09:00] <Mr_Milenko> please tell me you didnt just type that
[09:00] <phiqtion> i did
[09:00] <elephanthunter> he didn't
[09:01] <phiqtion> i dont know anything about linux
[09:01] <phiqtion> everything is gone
[09:01] <phiqtion> no icons
[09:01] <Mr_Milenko> stop lieing dumbass..
[09:01] <varsedangger> dsl, i just had a live cd in and the connection is fine, i was having the same problem with debian 3.1 but a really nice person told me an echo /nameserver Blah BLah  >> resolv.conf line to enter into my shell  but every time my compuer went into screen saver mode i had to enter that line in again... it was a good fix but i didn't -- and still don't understand waht that line means
[09:01] <phiqtion> thank god i have a fat32 partition
[09:01] <phiqtion> with my multimedia
[09:01] <phiqtion> but thanks again guys
[09:02] <wiwolf> bob2: i read http://nehru.mat.upm.es/cgi-bin/dwww?type=file&location=/usr/share/doc/libapache-mod-php4/README.Debian.gz
[09:02] <phiqtion> im gonna go and reinstall everything
[09:02] <wiwolf> and i believe i took care of all those settings
[09:02] <bob2> CaiN_SA: dude, seriously
[09:02] <bob2> CaiN_SA: read. it.
[09:02] <bob2> wiwolf: did you actually install libapache-mod-php4?
[09:02] <Mr_Milenko> This is why children should not use Linux.
[09:02] <Mr_Milenko> 1) It confuses them.. 2) Children annoy me..
[09:03] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[09:03] <wiwolf> bob2: yes. apt-get says libapache-mod-php4 is already the newest version.
[09:03] <dm> I somehow changed the color of my fonts in KDE desktop from white to black, how do i change it back?
[09:03] <citrosack> anyone know how to set up a vnc using xfce?
[09:03] <bluefrog-10> varsedangger, right now are talking to us on ur ubuntu pc?
[09:03] <elephanthunter> Mr_Milenko: Children are the future of linux.
[09:04] <Mr_Milenko> yeah... but why can't there be smart children :(
[09:04] <elephanthunter> haha
[09:04] <Mr_Milenko> Lieing on IRC doesn't make your e-penis grow...
[09:04] <Mr_Milenko> i hate that shit
[09:04] <Mr_Milenko> erm
[09:04] <Mr_Milenko> whoops
[09:04] <tritium> Mr_Milenko, watch the language please
[09:04] <Mr_Milenko> stuff
[09:04] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[09:04] <Mr_Milenko> appologies
[09:04] <varsedangger> both
[09:05] <varsedangger> that was a big line to through out there
[09:05] <Mr_Milenko> hmm?
[09:05] <Nick_Roberts> Hmmm.... I followed the advice that person gave me
[09:06] <Nick_Roberts> Went to that guide.
[09:06] <Nick_Roberts> Did what the guide said
[09:06] <Nick_Roberts> And now I have an error
[09:06] <Nick_Roberts> "failed to start the x server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"
[09:07] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  ubuntuguide?
[09:07] <Nick_Roberts> yeah
[09:07] <iiiears> Nick_Roberts - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg      and lspci (t get the device name and bus ID
[09:08] <Nick_Roberts> I'm not at a command prompt
[09:08] <Nick_Roberts> I'm at the message I just posted
[09:08] <Nick_Roberts> There is yes, or there's no.
[09:08] <aftertaf> nick58b:  say yes.
[09:08] <aftertaf> nick58b:  sorry...
[09:08] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  say yes
[09:09] <Nick_Roberts> Oh...
[09:09] <Nick_Roberts> This is Mabus06 btw
[09:09] <Nick_Roberts> Didn't realise I was on my other acct.
[09:09] <shadyb0x> anyone know why realplayer tells me this every time i open something.  Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6
[09:09] <shadyb0x> anything streaming
[09:10] <bjv> sudo apt-get remove firefox says:
[09:10] <bjv> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[09:10] <bjv>   epiphany-browser firefox gnome-core gnome-desktop-environment yelp
[09:10] <bjv> ?
[09:10] <bjv> i checked apt-cache show   gnome-core
[09:10] <shadyb0x> mplayer
[09:10] <bob2> bjv: yes, things want firefox installed
[09:10] <shadyb0x> not realplayer, mplayer Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6
[09:10] <bjv> but it did not list firefox as a dep?
[09:10] <Nick_Roberts> I viewed it, aftertaf, but it said nothing important
[09:11] <bjv> bob2: oh, i see. gnome-core depends on epiphany, and epiphany needs firefox. :\
[09:12] <bjv> wtf is epiphany?
[09:12] <bob2> bjv: yeah
[09:12] <bob2> bjv: gnome browser based on firefox (well, moz)
[09:12] <Mr_Milenko> Oh yes.. dependancys.. so fun
[09:12] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  quit out then, and type startx, whats the error? (dont paste it here)
[09:13] <Mr_Milenko> (ctrl alt backspace to restart X)
[09:13] <Mr_Milenko> i think
[09:13] <bjv> :\  well ive been using 1.5beta2 so i was gonna remove 1.0.7 or whatever ubuntu wanted.
[09:13] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:13] <bjv> oh well.
[09:14] <Xitium> I need some help with getting my wireless card to work with breezy, I got ndiswrapper installed and seems to be working cuz I can see the name of the connection that I want to connect to but I can't get anywhere online
[09:14] <Nick_Roberts> what do you mean, what's the error, don't paste it here?
[09:14] <Nick_Roberts> don't be redundant :S
[09:14] <aftertaf> Xitium:  can you ping?
[09:14] <Mr_Milenko> Nick: paste it in #flood
[09:14] <Mr_Milenko> or pastebin
[09:14] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  you can paste one line if a onle line error, otherwise paste it to a pastebin
[09:14] <bob2> Xitium: did you associate to it? request a dhcp lease?
[09:15] <Xitium> aftertaf, no I can't ping
[09:15] <Nick_Roberts> pastebin?
[09:15] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[09:15] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:15] <dm> Anyone know how to change the color of the fONTS on the desktop in KDE
[09:15] <Xitium> bob2, I thought I did
[09:17] <Mr_Milenko> dm: i dont play well with KDE... sorry
[09:17] <Nick_Roberts> How am I supposed to paste the error here, or anywhere for that matter?
[09:17] <wiwolf> i need some help. can someone with a working apache/php config pastebin their /etc/apache/conf.d/php4.conf and httpd.conf
[09:17] <Nick_Roberts> The linux is crippled, this is my xp machine
[09:17] <Mr_Milenko> ouch
[09:17] <Mr_Milenko> XP = spawn of satan
[09:17] <Mr_Milenko> go 2k if your gonna use windows :)
[09:17] <Mr_Milenko> i do
[09:18] <Nick_Roberts> well it's working, linux isn't
[09:18] <Mr_Milenko> hehe
[09:18] <Nick_Roberts> linux can't run my geforce
[09:18] <Nick_Roberts> it's been really really really (times a million) pissing me off
[09:18] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  it can, you dont know how to set it up thats all.
[09:18] <Nick_Roberts> nor do many experts who have tried to help
[09:18] <Mr_Milenko> yeah dude i had it running on my sisters computer
[09:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any reason that an upgrade from hoary to breezy might necessitate changes to xorg.conf?
[09:18] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  not having a go, but its not always easy, thats all.
[09:18] <Mr_Milenko> what kind of GeForce card we lookin at here
[09:18] <Nick_Roberts> FX 5500
[09:19] <Mr_Milenko> oh.. nevermind
[09:19] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: yeah the complete change in location of fonts
[09:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> hmm.
[09:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> okay, other than fontpath?
[09:19] <Nick_Roberts> nevermind?
[09:20] <wiwolf> ok. no one with working php4 and apache setup?
[09:20] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  if you can get onto the internet without X, you can irc in console and get help and try it out while you type... can you do that?
[09:20] <Nick_Roberts> I'm too noobish for that.
[09:20] <Nick_Roberts> But as I said.
[09:20] <Nick_Roberts> I'm on my xp machine right here.
[09:20] <Nick_Roberts> linux right next to me, no need to have linux on irc
[09:21] <Severian> wiwolf, I know apache better than php.  What is the problem.
[09:21] <Nick_Roberts> hey sev
[09:21] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  ok, 2 macines ;) cool
[09:21] <Nick_Roberts> my X is completely broken. :(
[09:21] <Severian> Howdy, Nick_Roberts
[09:22] <Nick_Roberts> Oh, I'm mabus06 btw
[09:22] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  does it give a specific error when you type startx ?
[09:22] <wiwolf> Severian: i'm tryin to get php pages to work on my apache setup. so i've got ubuntu breezy, apache 1.3.33, php4 and a test page in /var/www/test.html
[09:22] <wiwolf> and also another /var/www/index.php
[09:22] <Nick_Roberts> it gives like a page of errors
[09:22] <aftertaf> okkkkk Nick_Roberts Mabus06
[09:22] <Mr_Milenko> reinstall X would be my only opinion.. but dont listen to me.. i've been awake for 44 hours
[09:22] <Mr_Milenko> o.o
[09:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> what do i change in xorg.conf to try to use the framebuffer for switching modes.
[09:22] <Xitium> Under system > admin > networking it says my wlan0 is active but it doesn't seem to be
[09:22] <Nick_Roberts> what are you looking for exactly aftertaf
[09:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> Mr_Milenko surely you are hearing voices by now.
[09:22] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  the (EE) ones are the important ones
[09:22] <wiwolf> Severian: when i try to go to those pages, the index.php gets pushed back to firefox as x-httpd-php download type
[09:23] <Mr_Milenko> Broken: heh.. i hear voices all day everyday even with enough sleep :P
[09:23] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  do this.... sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:23] <wiwolf> when i go to index.html which has <!php inside it, those commands just show up in the page rather than being parsed
[09:23] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  then edit the line saying "nvidia", change it to just "nv"
[09:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> how many things have to be dpkg-reconfigured when upgrading from hoary to breezy? i've had to do two so far.  one was to get my splash on boot.
[09:23] <aftertaf> BROKEN_LADDER:  normally the ugrade des that for you, no?
[09:24] <Mr_Milenko> depends on how the update went..
[09:24] <Mr_Milenko> i remember i ran into some problems updating from warty to hoary
[09:24] <Severian> wiwolf, It sounds like apache does not know about php.  Probably a missing module in the conf file.  But, I don't know that part well.  I can look at mine, if you give me a moment.
[09:24] <Mr_Milenko> then again it was "bleeding edge not so beta"
[09:24] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:24] <Nick_Roberts> aftertaf I think theres a problem there
[09:25] <wiwolf> Severian: thanks. i appreciate it
[09:25] <Nick_Roberts> I think my nvidia driver device is actually my onboard device with the wrong driver
[09:25] <morgs^^> hiyas
[09:25] <wiwolf> Severian: i don't mind just copying all your configs. i have standard breezy, just installed today
[09:26] <Mr_Milenko> ello rob_p
[09:26] <Severian> wiwolf, my apache is 2.0, so it will be different from yours.
[09:26] <rob_p> Mr_Milenko:  Hi!
[09:26] <Mr_Milenko> (noticed the hostmask.. lol)
[09:27] <Xitium> my iwlist scan returned these results so I think that the ndiswrapper is working fine. Anyone know why I can't ping anything >>> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3686
[09:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> doh..i can't see my screen.  reconfiguring xorg.conf, it  tried to autodetect my monitor and now i'm sitting here with a sleeping monitor.  reboot...
[09:27] <morgs^^> i have a problem ... i dont understand compiling enough to install d3d9patch.2005-06-13 for wine ... can anybody be any help here please ?
[09:27] <rob_p> :-)
[09:27] <wiwolf> Severian: ok. maybe i can list what i did
[09:27] <wiwolf> Severian: to httpd.conf, I added LoadModule php4_module ...libphp4.so
[09:28] <wiwolf> then DirIndex index.php index.html
[09:28] <wiwolf> AddHandler php-script php
[09:28] <wiwolf> AddHandler php5-script php
[09:28] <wiwolf> AddType text/html php
[09:28] <DarthTode> bonjour everybody!
[09:29] <adriyel> hello....
[09:29] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  what do you mean? did you try chaging xorg?
[09:29] <spiral> hi
[09:29] <Nick_Roberts> yes
[09:29] <Nick_Roberts> But I don't have a clue what's going on
[09:31] <Xitium> anyone here get a broadcom card working with ndiswrapper?
[09:32] <morgs^^> could someone help me with compiling directx patch pleasr ? im stumped
[09:32] <wiwolf> Severian: do i need to do anything with /etc/php4/apache/php.ini
[09:32] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  ok, changed it. now try startx again
[09:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> where are the xkb map files that breezy uses?
[09:33] <Severian> wiwolf.  Hold on.  I am looking something up.  I don't know the answer to your question.  I told you I did not know the php part well.
[09:33] <Nick_Roberts> changed what, aftertaf?
[09:34] <Nick_Roberts> it keeps saying the same thing whenever I do it aftertaf
[09:34] <Nick_Roberts> and you asked me to tell you what it says
[09:34] <Nick_Roberts> but it's an entire page, be more specific as to what you want me to tell you
[09:36] <Nick_Roberts> the two things that appear to be bad to me are
[09:36] <Nick_Roberts> NV: no matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:9:0) found
[09:36] <Nick_Roberts> No devices detected
[09:36] <Nick_Roberts> Fatal server error:
[09:37] <Nick_Roberts> no screens found
[09:37] <aftertaf> Nick_Roberts:  not NV, nv !!!!
[09:37] <Nick_Roberts> no, it says NV
[09:37] <Xitium> Nick_Roberts, I had that same problem with my ATI card I had to go and type Option "noaccel" under the bus id
[09:38] <bluefrog-10> Nick_Roberts, if u have installed the nvidia drivers from synaptic, enable nvidia as it said in synaptic and reboot (to be safe) then it's working.
[09:38] <Nick_Roberts> blargh
[09:38] <Nick_Roberts> I don't know what you're all talking about!
[09:38] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:38] <elephanthunter> wiwolf: You still need help with apache and php setup?
[09:38] <iiiears> Nick_Roberts - i added an extra zero as a place holder to the bus ID and it seemed to help.   was >> 0.01.00    changed >> 00.01.00      extra leading zero.
[09:38] <nickRiviera> how to query ldap server daemon for its contents?
[09:38] <elephanthunter> wiwolf: I had working apache and php4 in hoary
[09:39] <Mabus06> place holder? bus ID?
[09:39] <varsedangger> is there a good reason to download sources files form apt-get?
[09:39] <Mabus06> noaccel?
[09:39] <iiiears> yes
[09:39] <bluefrog-10> Mabus06, oh ok it-s u, no use fiddling i guess...
[09:39] <wiwolf> elephanthunter: yes, cool
[09:39] <Mabus06> I don't know what you guys are talking about, sorry
[09:39] <wiwolf> elephanthunter: i've got breezy, apache 1.3.33
[09:39] <Mabus06> You'll have to dumb it down a notch.
[09:39] <wiwolf> and current status is that php pages are pushed back as downloads
[09:40] <Xitium> Mabus06,  so basicly when you are trying to start Ubuntu X crashes right?
[09:40] <Mabus06> what, bluefrog-10?
[09:40] <wiwolf> and pages with <!php are not parsed
[09:40] <Mabus06> Yes, Xitium
[09:40] <elephanthunter> wiwolf: Are you registered on Freenode?
[09:40] <Mabus06> But I definately know my X settings are wrong
[09:40] <Mabus06> now
[09:40] <bluefrog-10> Mabus06, log on using the console
[09:40] <Mabus06> And don't be the hundredth person to post me how to recongifure x ;-)
[09:41] <Xitium> Mabus06,  try this type pico /etc/X11/xorg.config
[09:41] <Mr_Milenko> Xitium and Mabus06: you guys should go to PM and try to fix this seeing as theres alot of people talking/joinging here.. it would prolly be easier
[09:41] <Mabus06> I've gotten to that screen. The problem is, I have no idea what to d.
[09:41] <wiwolf> elephanthunter: i am now
[09:41] <bluefrog-10> Mabus06, wait a sec
[09:41] <Xitium> Mr_Milenko,  right-o
[09:41] <ndlovu> what's a good place to install applications from source? /usr/share? /opt ?
[09:41] <Severian> wiwolf, None of my apache machines have php installed. I am doing a test install on a new machine at the moment.  I'll put php on it.  If you don't have an answer in an hour, ask me again and I'll look at those config files.  OK?
[09:41] <dducko> I wanting to learn some programing..  Python/C++  Any suggestions of where to look and what I should install?
[09:41] <Mabus06> Xitium: #helpme
[09:42] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:42] <dducko> Perhaps Perl
[09:42] <Mr_Milenko> fairly easy answer dducko.. google it
[09:42] <Mr_Milenko> not trying to be an arse
[09:42] <Mr_Milenko> being serious lol
[09:42] <dducko> Yeah I know that.. and can gets lots of information that way
[09:42] <dducko> I wanted to know if you guys had any suggestions
[09:42] <varsedangger> hey waht do you guys use for your sources.list
[09:43] <dducko> google is no problems
[09:43] <dducko> !repos
[09:43] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[09:43] <dducko> and what whould you suggest learning first?
[09:44] <Severian> dducko, Python
[09:44] <Xitium> anyone good at solving wifi problems?
[09:44] <dducko> Cool Ill look there first
[09:45] <CuriousCat> does anyone know how to get a winmodem working in breezy
[09:45] <dducko> What program do I need to open /chm?
[09:46] <dducko> err.   .chm
[09:46] <Severian> dducko, Python is used for a number of canonical projects.  So, it is a good skill to have.  I'm learning it now, myself.
[09:46] <SiriX> is there any reason why ubuntu wouldnt like running at 1920x1200 on an X800XT?
[09:47] <crisco> hello?
[09:47] <SiriX> i just dl'd the live cd to test on my main box... and it came up with an xserver error just after i selected the res
[09:47] <SiriX> crimsun: hi
[09:47] <SiriX> err..
[09:47] <dducko> nevermind.. got it
[09:47] <sn0wman> good morning everybody
[09:47] <crisco> i just started with linux and im having a few issues can anyone help?
[09:47] <SiriX> crisco: lo
[09:48] <SiriX> crisco: heh good luck :)
[09:48] <dducko> Ask away
[09:49] <Xitium> I need help getting my wifi working correctly anyone here got some time to help me?
[09:49] <Mr_Milenko> Xitium: i coul NEVER get my wifi to work with ubuntu
[09:49] <Mr_Milenko> >:(
[09:49] <crisco> im only having 2 issues-first is i just downloaded real player for linux but i dont know how to find it and start it
[09:49] <signius> WOO HOO my new Senao Wireless card just arrived from the postman :-)
[09:50] <Mr_Milenko> crisco: open an xterm (command prompt)
[09:50] <Mr_Milenko> type sudo updatedb locate
[09:50] <Mr_Milenko> when its done
[09:50] <Xitium> Mr_Milenko, well I guess im getting closer than most cuz look at this, >> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3686
[09:50] <crisco> yeah i read that-how do i get to that?
[09:50] <Mr_Milenko> ok click the GNOME Foot
[09:50] <signius> 200mW with Prism 2.5 chipset and 2 x External Antenna Jacks
[09:50] <Mr_Milenko> or the KDE "K"
[09:51] <Mr_Milenko> then go to run
[09:51] <Mr_Milenko> type xterm
[09:51] <signius> How sad is it that i can get so excited over some new hardware
[09:51] <signius> LOL
[09:51] <dducko> Not like that for Breezy
[09:51] <Mr_Milenko> for real?
[09:51] <Mr_Milenko> wtf..
[09:51] <Severian> signius, that is a good nic.  It should work well.
[09:51] <Mr_Milenko> Breezy moved gnome around?
[09:51] <dducko> Application -Accessorie -> Terminal
[09:51] <crisco> where is the foot?
[09:51] <bjv> i had some .desktop files for mounting/unmounting harddisk partitions in KDE
[09:51] <bjv> under ubuntu/gnome they dont work?
[09:51] <ndlovu> would /usr/share/ be a good place to install NVU from binaries?
[09:52] <signius> Yeah i had to search around a bit for a UK supplier but i am so fed up with all the problems the various wireless nics got under Linux
[09:52] <dducko> Right click on terminal and Add to panel
[09:52] <dducko> youll appreciate it there
[09:52] <bjv> does gnome support mounting/unmounting parts by clicking a desktop icon?
[09:52] <Mabus06> bluefrog-10 does it feel good to ridicule people who aren't as knowledged at llinux as you?
[09:52] <crisco> oh ok
[09:53] <Xitium> Mabus06,  does it feel good to ask the same question 100 times have people answer you and then say uhh ask me more specificly
[09:53] <Severian> signius, On my Prism 2 and 2.5 card, I never had any problem under Linux.  I just plug them in and they work.  I use them at the local library and at a local restaurant.
[09:53] <Mr_Milenko> crisco:once you got a terminal running type sudo updatedb locat
[09:53] <Mr_Milenko> locate**
[09:53] <signius> Orinoco have to contqastantly patch the kernel for RFMON my cisco aironet card the UBUNTU 2.6.12 kernel is broken and cant work properly as the kernel is broken (which is completely un-accpetable to break such an old and solid chipsetset driver)
[09:53] <bluefrog-10> Mabus06, i was willing to help u but as obviously u're just here to pull the leg of others, i don't see the point of going on..
[09:53] <Mr_Milenko> sorry
[09:54] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  you edit thefile, change the NV to nv... its cases ensitive
[09:54] <SiriX> umm... so any ideas on X800XT + Ubuntu Live not working? also i925 chipset onboard nic not workin' either...
[09:54] <Mabus06> Pull legs? I'm not here to pull legs.
[09:54] <signius> i have various other wireless nics that i can get working with ndiswrappers but they wont support RFMON either
[09:54] <Mabus06> You're here to make fun of me b ecause I'm not as smart at linux.
[09:54] <bluefrog-10> Mabus06, yeah right :)
[09:54] <Mabus06> You said "can you read"... that's pretty insulting
[09:54] <Mr_Milenko> Mabus06: no offense but can i ask how old you are please?
[09:54] <crisco> im ther now...what do i type?
[09:54] <Mabus06> 18
[09:54] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  did you edit your xorg.conf file and change the dvice to "nv" ?
[09:54] <Xitium> under system > admin > networking I see my wlan0 card and it says its active but I can't ping with it or anything, any ideas? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3686
[09:55] <Mr_Milenko> crisco:  sudo updatedb locate
[09:55] <signius> The cisco aironet card is absolutely fantastic and a very capable card i cannot believe the kernel guys have broken the kernel for these cards
[09:55] <Mabus06> yes, aftertaf
[09:55] <Mabus06> did not help
[09:55] <Mr_Milenko> should pause for a minute or so
[09:55] <Mr_Milenko> then return to text input
[09:55] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  when you startx, what error do you have?
[09:55] <signius> Severian I have heard the Prism 3 chipset isnt so great under Linux tho
[09:55] <Mabus06> no devices detected
[09:55] <crisco> i tried updatedb locate but it said im not authorized
[09:56] <Mr_Milenko> crisco: type sudo before that command
[09:56] <Xitium> crisco, sudo updatedb locate
[09:56] <signius> Severian which is a shame as the senao prism 3 card with 2 x externals was a third of the price
[09:56] <Mabus06> and NV: No matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:9:0) found
[09:56] <Tomcat_> SiriX: Sure. :o
[09:56] <bjv> SiriX: i cant.
[09:56] <signius> Severian which would have been an absolute bargain at 15 by any standards
[09:57] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  not NV, nv!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:57] <cevizoglu> SiriX, no cussing
[09:57] <rob_p> Xitium:  Does your wireless interface have an IP address assigned and is it static or DHCP?
[09:57] <Mabus06> aftertaf, I know
[09:57] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  it is case sensitive
[09:57] <SiriX> cevizoglu: cussing..?
[09:57] <cevizoglu> SiriX, yes
[09:57] <Xitium> rob_p, its DHCP
[09:57] <SiriX> cevizoglu: such as..
[09:57] <Mr_Milenko> you said shxt
[09:57] <Mabus06> I did not type NV anywhere, whatsoever, in any fashion on any keyboard except on this one telling you the error
[09:57] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:57] <Severian> signius, I don't have any with 2 antennae.  But, mine were all prety cheap  The most I paid was $20.  I imagine 2 attannae helps the range.
[09:57] <Mabus06> The NV is there some other reason
[09:57] <cevizoglu> SiriX, look it up in the dictionary
[09:57] <rob_p> Xitium:  Does it successfully get an IP from the DHCP server?
[09:57] <SiriX> i wouldnt call sh*t cussing..
[09:57] <crisco> now what?
[09:57] <Xitium> rob_p, im not sure how to check that
[09:57] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  then type this:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:57] <rob_p> Xitium:  ifconfig
[09:57] <Xitium> rob_p, but I don't think so
[09:58] <Mr_Milenko> crisco: type locate nameofrealplayerdownloadhere
[09:58] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:58] <Xitium> rob_p, no it doesn't
[09:58] <SiriX> so umm..
[09:59] <SiriX> no one has *any* ideas on why an X800XT doesnt seem to work on the live cd?
[09:59] <Mabus06> aftertaf
[09:59] <signius> Severian yes i got a real cheap external omni antenna and it performs really well my only hassle now is getting my GPS to work through my usb to serial adapter which i had working under Hoary but i havnt managed to get it working under breezy and like an idiot i forgot to write down the settings befire i upgraded and cant get it working for the life of me now :-(
[09:59] <Mabus06> attempt to autodetect hardware?
[09:59] <aftertaf> try it.
[09:59] <Antioch_> How can I get GDM to use a larger resolution?] 
[09:59] <rob_p> Xitium:  Ok, so apparently it's not able to get a lease from the DHCP server.  Maybe you aren't connecting to the AP successfully.
[10:00] <rob_p> Xitium:  Does your AP require a WEP key?  If so, do you have one loaded for your wireless interface?
[10:00] <crisco> it says command not found
[10:00] <Mabus06> aftertaf: select the desired x server driver
[10:00] <Mabus06> I'll pick nv as you will probably reccomend, default seems to be i810
[10:00] <Xitium> rob_p, that would be my guess as well, but also when I go the the computers icon near the clock I can't even switch it to wlan0 only eth0 and lo
[10:01] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  nv yeah
[10:01] <Xitium> rob_p, No I turned off the WEP key for now just to try and get it working easier
[10:01] <Mabus06> are you sure these arent teh settings of my onboard, aftertaf?
[10:01] <rob_p> Xitium:  Good idea!  It's always easier to troubleshoot wireless issues without WEP.
[10:01] <Mabus06> because the default name for the device is like "intel something or other"
[10:01] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  i dont know what your onboard is, Mabus06 ........ disble it in bios?
[10:01] <Xitium> rob_p, plus its like 1am not a lot of people gonna be scamming off my wifi right now heh
[10:01] <Mabus06> No, that causes the kernel to panic
[10:02] <Mr_Milenko> crisco: what did you type?
[10:02] <Mr_Milenko> hmm maybe.. type sudo locate thenameofthedownloadhere
[10:02] <Mabus06> it seems to plain just not want me to use my nvidia
[10:03] <Mabus06> intel corporation 82865g integrated graphics device
[10:03] <Xitium> rob_p, if I manualy type wlan0 in the connection prorperties window it just stays on idle, so I don't know how to make it try and get an IP from my router
[10:03] <Mabus06> that's what the default "identifier" for my video card is
[10:03] <crisco> nameofrealplayerdownloadhere
[10:03] <rob_p> Xitium:  Are you sure that you removed WEP from your wireless router/AP?  I'd double-check that and then maybe reboot it too.  Some wireless routers are a bit funny that way and require reboots after making config changes.
[10:03] <Mabus06> aftertaf, #helpme?
[10:04] <SiriX> Tada!
[10:04] <Danny|> anyone has any ideas why firestarter is throwing me errors? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82519
[10:04] <ubuntu_user1111> hi you all, how can i instal Ariel Font (whare do i donload it frim)?
[10:04] <SiriX> EOI: Ubuntu Live + X800XT = No Workies... Any Ideas?
[10:05] <ubuntu_user1111> hi, how do i instal Ariel Font ( & whare do i donload it from)?
[10:05] <rob_p> Xitium:  If it connects successfully to the router, it will automatically try and negotiate an IP address, provided that you have specified, "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" in the wireless networking config.
[10:06] <kevix> apt-get install msttcorefonts
[10:06] <daaku> i'm trying to build a new system, anyone feel like helping me out with compatibility suggestions?: A WD 250G SATA 7200RPM 3Gb/s HD - LCD w/ 1920x1200 - Foxconn NF4K8MC EKRS Socket 939 Nvidia nForce4 Micro ATX AMD w/ 300W Power - ASUS EN6600/TD/128 Geforce 6600 128MB DDR PCI e x16 - Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 1Ghz FSB
[10:06] <kevix> ubuntu_user1111,  apt-get install msttcorefonts
[10:07] <kevix> daaku, sweet! seems ok.
[10:07] <daaku> and RAID using 2x of the mentioned HD
[10:07] <SiriX> meh..
[10:07] <SiriX> thanks for the help...
[10:07] <daaku> kevix: thanks. its basically ripped out arstechnica system guide
[10:07] <ubuntu_user1111> can i install msttcorefonts from Synoptic manager?
[10:07] <SiriX> ima go figure it out for myself..
[10:08] <daaku> only wish i could go for the god box :p
[10:08] <ubuntu_user1111> can i install msttcorefonts from Synaptic manager?
[10:08] <daaku> ubuntu_user1111: yup, just search for it
[10:08] <ubuntu_user1111> ok ty!
[10:09] <daaku> anyone with suggestions on the keyboard and mouse?
[10:09] <rob_p> Xitium:  Also, make sure your wireless router is setup for backwards compatibility with the older 802.11b devices if there's a setting for it.  Maybe your wireless interface is only working in the legacy mode.  If your router is setup for the newer G only mode, that could be a source of trouble.
[10:09] <Mabus06> my x is still down...
[10:10] <daaku> kevix: any idea if the 300w power supply is enough?
[10:10] <kevix> daaku, I love my 'happy hacking keyboard'!
[10:10] <ubuntu_user1111> ok, found it :) thanks agin.
[10:10] <kevix> daaku, its a micro, so ok. but its not a problem if it has more watts.
[10:12] <daaku> kevix: it comes with the case, so i wasnt sure if i should bother replacing it or just leave it
[10:13] <daaku> and kinda lost with desktop hardware - been away for a while!
[10:15] <crisco> ok-i cant find where i downloaded real plaer-can ayone tell me how to find it so i can type it in and install it
[10:15] <B_166-ER-X> how do we set a timer on xchat ? i dont understant the 'help' about it ..
[10:15] <quail_linux> SysInfo: uname: Linux 2.6.10-5-686 CPU: Pentium III (Coppermine) 730.992 MHz Bogomips: 1449.98 Mem: 214/504M [||||||||||]  Diskspace: 35.26G Free: 25.76G Uptime: 1 day 10 hrs 46 mins 46 secs Load: 1.26 1.24 1.33  Procs: 84 Graphic: nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro]  (rev 15) Screen: 1280x1024 (24 bpp) nVidia Corespeed: 141.986 MHz Netinfo: eth0: In: 722.67M Out: 362.38M
[10:16] <cam> Hi; is there a way to change gnome-settings-deamon's keyboard shortcut actions so that volume up would increase the volume of master volume?
[10:16] <crisco> im at configuring realplayer and its asking me where it was downloaded to
[10:16] <[Spooky] > B_166-ER-X: type /timer then hit enter....
[10:16] <B_166-ER-X> ...
[10:16] <B_166-ER-X> Usage: TIMER [-refnum <num>]  [-repeat <num>]  <seconds> <command>
[10:16] <B_166-ER-X>         TIMER [-quiet]  -delete <num>
[10:16] <B_166-ER-X> i call that, 'unclear'
[10:17] <[Spooky] > why ?
[10:17] <B_166-ER-X> * -0 :Unknown command
[10:17] <B_166-ER-X> * 0 :Unknown command
[10:17] <B_166-ER-X> * <0> :Unknown command
[10:17] <B_166-ER-X> ...
[10:18] <[Spooky] > what is * -0 ?
[10:18] <B_166-ER-X> on irc my timer would be /timer 0 500 /command
[10:18] <B_166-ER-X> i dont see how to do this here, there is more than jsut repeat and time
[10:19] <kevix> daaku, this is the model I will get (I have the older one). Its $$ but worth it! http://store.yahoo.com/pfuca-store/haphackeylit1.html
[10:19] <nerdy2> on irc?
[10:19] <B_166-ER-X> mIRC
[10:19] <B_166-ER-X> that is
[10:19] <nerdy2> what does that command do on mirc
[10:19] <Xitium> rob_p, I am now connected to you all via wifi :) and they said it couldn't be done with a broadcom card! muhahah
[10:19] <nerdy2> [i.e. what more than repeat/time does it do?] 
[10:19] <rob_p> Xitium:  Nice work!  :-)
[10:20] <deeLer> i've installed ooffice2 via apt-get ... seems to work, but i need two other languages than english: french and dutch ... so i've downloaded ooffice2.org-i10n-nl and fr .... how do i configure it now ??? i want to be able to run office in dutch and in french
[10:20] <kevix> crisco, apt-get install realplay
[10:20] <B_166-ER-X> well....depends on the 'command' you put after the timer ?
[10:20] <B_166-ER-X> wich can be naything
[10:20] <B_166-ER-X> i need a timer ban
[10:20] <nerdy2> B_166-ER-X, yes it depends on the command, but the x-chat one also has a command, i don't see what the problem is?
[10:20] <rob_p> Xitium:  What was the issue?
[10:20] <nerdy2> B_166-ER-X, e.g. type /timer 5 whois nerdy2    ...
[10:21] <phiqtion> nalioth: where can i find a good source list?
[10:21] <dducko> !repos
[10:21] <ubotu> hmm... sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[10:21] <daaku> kevix: nice. but i'm leaning towards wirless kb/mouse
[10:22] <daaku> kevix: although being used to laptop kb's, this is tempting
[10:22] <Mabus06> I'm sitting here with noway to get the gui to load for ubuntu, and nobody seems to be able to help?
[10:22] <B_166-ER-X> nerdy2... that jsute a '5' ...theres not repeat , or time command.. and  it jsut does a whois one time.
[10:22] <dducko> What video card Mabus06?
[10:22] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  deactivate the intel gfx card in the bios
[10:23] <Andre4s> witch package should I install to get the kernel source ? kernel source to the running kernel in ubuntu 5.10
[10:23] <nerdy2> B_166-ER-X, yes, and the xchat statement tells you how to get a repeat,  /timer -repeat 2 5 whois nerdy2
[10:23] <deeLer> where is the mondo-rescue package for debian amd64 ?
[10:23] <dducko> run uname -r in a terminal
[10:23] <deeLer> sorry ubuntu 64 :)
[10:23] <dducko> then search for that in Sym
[10:23] <kevix> deeLer, 'LC_ALL=ja_JP.utf8  gedit' would tell gedit to show japanese menus. So, you need to substitute your locale.
[10:23] <mahangu> is there anyway to transfer files across shells?
[10:23] <Andre4s> yes, but I dont fint it
[10:23] <mahangu> i mean
[10:23] <mahangu> my local shell
[10:24] <mahangu> to another
[10:24] <mahangu> remote shell
[10:24] <mahangu> ssh
[10:24] <Xitium> rob_p, not sure I just restarted the router and all the computers and now it works
[10:24] <dducko> 2.6.12-9-386.
[10:24] <kevix> mahangu, scp
[10:24] <dducko> is the one i have 2.6.12-9-386 (no period)
[10:24] <dducko> its in synaptic
[10:25] <deeLer> kevix, what about simultaneous french and dutch, via ltsp ??? is that possible ?
[10:25] <dducko> probally the same this is  fresh instal of Breezy
[10:25] <housetier> Mabus06 maybe the mailinglist guys will be able to help
[10:25] <Andre4s> I only find 2.6.11
[10:25] <mahangu> kevix, scp?
[10:25] <usuario> org
[10:25] <aftertaf> dducko:  whats your processor?
[10:25] <dducko> amd
[10:25] <rob_p> Xitium:  Yeah... I've seen that a time or two!  Anyway, glad you got it up and running.
[10:25] <kevix> deeLer, oh well. dont know that!
[10:25] <dducko> but I have the normal 386 installed
[10:25] <aftertaf> mahangu:  scp....
[10:26] <aftertaf> dducko:  install linux-k7 package then
[10:26] <kevix> mahangu, scp myfile hostip@user:.
[10:26] <aftertaf> mahangu:  scp file user@remotepc:/path
[10:26] <Mabus06> aftertaf
[10:26] <dducko> Is there a reason I need to if 386 is working fine for me?
[10:26] <Mabus06> when I change the bios to read the pci card instead of onboard
[10:27] <Mabus06> it causes kernel panic
[10:27] <aftertaf> dducko:  optimised == faster
[10:27] <bt> Anyone here that have a SOHO PCI 10/100 LAN Network card ?
[10:27] <kevix> mahangu, if you read the man page 'man scp' it may help. if not, try something. then ask again.
[10:27] <dducko> So which do i want to install?  The Restricted or what?
[10:27] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  no idea then. reinstall with intel onboard disabled?
[10:28] <Mabus06> no, it won't work
[10:28] <Xitium> rob_p, me to this makes ubuntu the first fully working distro with my computer and everything but the video and wifi worked right out of the box
[10:28] <aftertaf> dducko:  linux-k7 & all the dependencies
[10:28] <deeLer> kevix, how do i change the locale ?
[10:28] <Mabus06> freezes up at hotplug part of boot
[10:28] <Xitium> rob_p, even all my function keys
[10:28] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  maybe borked hardware ten?
[10:29] <mahangu> kevix, i didn't know you were referring to a command, thanks
[10:29] <Xitium> aftertaf, in regards to Mabus06's problem I had a similar one with my ATI card and I had to add option "noaccel" and then it worked fine
[10:29] <kevix> deeLer, type 'locale', do you see at lot of 'en_US.UTF-8'
[10:29] <aftertaf> Xitium:  aha... ;)
[10:29] <deeLer> thx kevix
[10:30] <Mabus06> I doubt it, aftertaf
[10:30] <Mabus06> It worked just fine two days ago when my linux box was a windows comp
[10:30] <dducko> be right back  (hopefully)
[10:30] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  out of my league then  im afraid
[10:30] <aftertaf> dducko:  hehe ;) whats your gfx card?
[10:30] <dducko> nvidia
[10:31] <kevix> deeLer, those variable tell the computer what language to use to output text
[10:31] <Xitium> aftertaf, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=373844
[10:31] <dducko> i have the glx driver installed.. broke didnt it?
[10:31] <aftertaf> dducko:  drivers installed are ubuntu or NVIDIA .run ?
[10:31] <dducko> ubuntu
[10:31] <aftertaf> dducko:  should be fine then.
[10:31] <Quarupted> How can I install Ubuntu, with no Floppy or Blank CDrom?
[10:31] <deeLer> okay, thx
[10:31] <dducko> i have the .run but didnt install it cause it worked with the ubuntu  ones
[10:31] <Xitium> Mabus06, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=373844
[10:31] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  install on a pc with cdrom then cange drive to another machine?
[10:32] <dducko> and since the kernel is compiled with 3.4 caused issues i havent learned my way around yet
[10:32] <bt> Anyone here that have a SOHO PCI 10/100 LAN Network card ?
[10:32] <aftertaf> dducko:  yeah me too ;)
[10:32] <kevix> Quarupted, what do you mean a black cdrom?
[10:32] <Quarupted> aftertaf, I have a cdrom drive, no media to burn the ISO
[10:32] <Quarupted> kevix, I meant Blank CDR
[10:32] <dducko> ok time for  a reboot.. all else fails.. install doesnt take too long
[10:32] <aftertaf> dducko:  or youreboot on 386 kernel.
[10:33] <Quarupted> Im looking for maybe a net install or something?
[10:33] <kevix> Quarupted, UBUNTU will send you a CD for free. go to the web site (takes about 3-4 weeks)
[10:33] <bt> Does anyone here know for a fact that Radeon x800 pro will work with ubuntu?
[10:33] <Quarupted> kevix, I know this
[10:34] <Quarupted> kevix, That doesnt help me when I need to get linux on these 3 machines tonight
[10:34] <kevix> Quarupted, then get someone else (like from a local linux users group) to burn it for you.
[10:34] <Quarupted> I dun wanna do a Knoppix HD install but its looking like my only choice
[10:34] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  tough one there mate.
[10:35] <Quarupted> kevix, again that doesnt help me, I need to do this now, just forget it, you dont get the situation
[10:35] <Quarupted> basically Im looking for a net-install?
[10:35] <aftertaf> debian has one, on a cd.
[10:35] <Quarupted> lol yea I know
[10:35] <Quarupted> Well I have a warty disk
[10:35] <kevix> Quarupted, I do. but 'not planning ahead' can not be fixed by anyone. cheers!
[10:35] <Quarupted> but only 64 megs of ram
[10:35] <rob_p> Xitium:  Yeah, I hear ya.  I now have Breezy running on my Sony Vaio laptop and everything works except 2 little special function keys.  Wireless, full widescreen video, ethernet, touchpad, etc. all are working perfectly.  It's nice.
[10:36] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  that will do.... you mount the iso as a deb source.
[10:36] <dducko> Yay!
[10:36] <Severian> aftertaf, They had a set of floppies you could make to do a net install.  Is that gone?
[10:36] <aftertaf> Severian:  no idea man...
[10:36] <Quarupted> kevix, again you havent a clue what you are talking about, there was no time to plan this was just handed to me
[10:36] <bt> Does anyone here know for a fact that Radeon x800 pro will work with ubuntu?
[10:36] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  only 64 meg ram?
[10:36] <Quarupted> Yup Im thinking Fluxbox
[10:36] <kevix> Quarupted, huh. so use the warty disk.
[10:37] <aftertaf> use the warty disk mount the breezy iso as a source when installed and upgrade it
[10:37] <Quarupted> I will, but is there an option to not install Gnome?
[10:37] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  server install.
[10:37] <aftertaf> on warty, custom
[10:37] <Quarupted> aftertaf, no you have to go from warty to Hoary then to Breezy
[10:38] <Quarupted> aftertaf, what ya mean Custom?
[10:38] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  send someone to buy a cd, or say its not possible in the timescale you have been given.
[10:38] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  an install option.
[10:38] <Quarupted> aftertaf, its 2 am
[10:38] <crisco> help can anyone help me
[10:38] <deeLer> where is the mondo-rescue package for ubuntu amd64 ? does it exist ?
[10:38] <rdw200169> what's up crisco
[10:38] <Quarupted> aftertaf, is that when i first put it in, i have to do something before i press enter?
[10:38] <Severian> Quarupted, Walmart is open 24 hours around here.  They have blank CDRs.
[10:39] <crisco> im trying to get realplayer on this
[10:39] <kevix> Quarupted, so you have a warty cd. and you have a machine with 64mb.
[10:39] <crisco> i downloaded it
[10:39] <dducko> !restricted
[10:39] <ubotu> I heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[10:39] <dducko> Near the bottom of that....
[10:39] <crisco> i cant figure out how to get it to work
[10:39] <Quarupted> Kevix YUP
[10:39] <crisco> i saved it upon my desktop
[10:39] <Seven> !nividia
[10:39] <ubotu> Seven: Wish i knew
[10:39] <Seven> !nvidia
[10:39] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:39] <kevix> Quarupted, and you have warty installed?
[10:40] <Quarupted> kevix, no, im on Knoppix live right now
[10:40] <crisco> im at configuring realplayer window
[10:40] <dducko> hang on crisco i havent did it yet.. ill see where i get to
[10:40] <crisco> it says "realplayer has been downloaded to?"
[10:40] <crisco> ok
[10:40] <kevix> Quarupted, so is you goal to install any UBUNTU or must you have the latest?
[10:41] <dducko> crisco is there a reason you didnt use apt to get it?
[10:41] <crisco> apt?
[10:41] <Quarupted> kevix, I would like Ubuntu Breezy, but I dont need Gnome, but I do need some kinda WM, im thinking fluxbox
[10:41] <dducko> or the Synamptic program?
[10:41] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  an impossible mission, with 64 meg you're gonna have a headache dude.
[10:41] <Quarupted> Naw
[10:41] <Linuxdogmatiker> hi, i installed ubuntu and i wasn't asked for the setting the root-password. is this normal?
[10:42] <Quarupted> I have done it before
[10:42] <dducko> Linuxdogmatiker, yes
[10:42] <Quarupted> Just need to remeber how to skip gnome
[10:42] <dducko> Root is disabled by default
[10:42] <Linuxdogmatiker> dducko: how to set it?
[10:42] <dducko> sudo passwd root
[10:42] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  install option: custom. on cd boot.
[10:42] <kevix> Quarupted, so install warty, upgrade to breeze, remove xdm and gdm, and then install fluxbox.
[10:42] <Quarupted> aftertaf, LIKE I said, i dunno wtf that means
[10:42] <dm> Is there anything like GDESKLETS Starterbar for Superkaramba, that can become Up and down, not like macosx bar, where its only horizontal
[10:42] <bluefrog-10> Linuxdogmatiker, u don't need to set it
[10:43] <Xitium> with evolution how can I make it so that emails show the images?
[10:43] <crisco> i really dont know how to get it i did what peeps told me-but to no avail
[10:43] <dducko> crisco open a terminal
[10:43] <Linuxdogmatiker> okay, tkx
[10:43] <crisco> ok
[10:43] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  forgive the bluntness, read the screen you get when you boot on the warty cd and you will know
[10:43] <Quarupted> kevix, I cant install it with any of that at all i only have 64 megs of ram
[10:43] <crisco> got it
[10:43] <dducko> sudo apt-get install realplaye
[10:43] <dducko> sudo apt-get install realplayer
[10:43] <dducko> sorry
[10:43] <kevix> Xitium, I think that's the default.
[10:43] <Quarupted> No i have looked at it, and i dont know what your talking about
[10:44] <ompaul> Quarupted, so give the job to someone who can do it, you obviously don't really stand a chance you have been talking about this 64 megs for the last 3 days if you had started something you would have been finished by now
[10:44] <kevix> Quarupted, I would expect that it will install, but I would then uninstall gnome, then you can install fluxbox
[10:45] <Quarupted> No IT wont thats what I am saying I have tried IT WONT
[10:45] <crisco> it says "realplayer is already newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, o to remove and 0 not upgraded
[10:45] <Xitium> kevix, I would think it would show images on default but it doesn't
[10:45] <cevizoglu> crisco, you're already installed the package then
[10:45] <kevix> Quarupted, what I mean is that I wouldn't RUN gnome with 64 meg, but the install should allow you to install it
[10:45] <cevizoglu> er, you've
[10:46] <kevix> Xitium, right click on the message area, IIRC there should be a menu
[10:46] <Quarupted> What do you mean give it to someone else...  You don't understand the webserver on my uncles business blew up, i need to get him a webserver running redundant rais in the next 3 hours or his business is dead
[10:46] <crisco> but ti doesnt start
[10:46] <dm> Is there anything like GDESKLETS Starterbar for Superkaramba, that can become Up and down, not like macosx bar, where its only horizontal
[10:46] <crisco> and i didnt go through any setup
[10:46] <cevizoglu> !tell crisco about realplayer
[10:46] <Mr_Milenko> Quarupted: lol.... dude that sucks
[10:47] <Quarupted> No it wont let you install GDM or Gnome without anything less than 128 Megs of ram
[10:47] <Mr_Milenko> install tintlogin
[10:47] <Mr_Milenko> and fluxbox
[10:47] <Mr_Milenko> tinylogin*
[10:47] <Severian> Quarupted, Do you have any memory you can borry to do the install?
[10:47] <Severian> Quarupted, Do you have any memory you can borrowo do the install?
[10:47] <Mr_Milenko> borrow*
[10:47] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[10:48] <ompaul> to install the most basic of systems when the command prompt comes up at the start of an install you type the word "server" this puts together a basic install no WM
[10:48] <ompaul> after that you add what you can
[10:48] <ompaul> if that does not work the machine is not able to cope
[10:48] <Mr_Milenko> oh yeah.. forgot about that
[10:48] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  install sarge then
[10:49] <ompaul> in which case do something else and stop wasting time or the 3 hours are over and
[10:49] <rob_p> Quarupted:  Why not do a server install and then add a wm afterwards?
[10:49] <kevix> Xitium, if you go to the file Edit, go to preferences, then to mail pereferences. ...
[10:49] <aftertaf> rob^:  he doesnt nkow how to.
[10:49] <ompaul> aftertaf, I have given explicit instruction on how to do this
[10:49] <boogieman> Hello all, i'm still trying to get my nc6120 (AGP : Intel 915GM / 5.04 Hoary) to go beyond 1024x768 resolution.. I have tried 915resolution/855resolution tools, played with xorg.conf, but still nothing worked; can someone please help me?
[10:49] <aftertaf> rob^:  sorry, rob_p he dont know how to
[10:50] <Xitium> kevix, thanks
[10:50] <bluefrog-10> Quarupted, if it's a matter of life and death for your uncles then ask thm for 300$ and go get a decent machine. I am not joking...
[10:50] <aftertaf> boogieman:  can both card and monitor manage that?
[10:50] <aftertaf> bluefrog-10:  best suggeston yet.
[10:50] <boogieman> aftertaf: it should I guess, but i really don't know
[10:50] <ompaul> $300 - more like 1 k give yourself the space to do an install in 20 mins
[10:50] <rob_p> aftertaf:  Oh... well then maybe he's bitten off more than he can chew...  Good luck to him!
[10:50] <Quarupted> I dont have time to buy anything
[10:50] <Quarupted> Nothing is open
[10:51] <bluefrog-10> Quarupted, if it's a matter of life and death for your uncles then ask thm for 300$ and go get a decent machine. I am not joking...
[10:51] <ompaul> Quarupted, I have given explicit instruction on the most basic of ubuntu installs if you machine can't handle that you need to do debian
[10:51] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  are you purposely trolling here?
[10:51] <kresten> I'm having troubles with an external cd-drive, that won't mount automaticly what do I do? e.g. how do I mount manually?
[10:51] <ompaul> Quarupted, and to be honest you have been asking for 3 days
[10:51] <Quarupted> Im not trolling
[10:51] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  you are using what machine right now?
[10:51] <bluefrog-10> Quarupted, how many machines at ur uncles?
[10:51] <Quarupted> you guys dont understand your presuming things
[10:51] <Quarupted> but you dont understand
[10:51] <kevix> Quarupted, while you may be well intentioned. It aint enough. time. patience. experience.
[10:51] <adriyel> helloz.
[10:52] <Quarupted> What No I havent been asking for 3 days.. WTF...
[10:52] <adriyel> Quarupted, whats the prob?
[10:52] <ompaul> Quarupted, I was not here last night I was here two nights ago and you had the same machine
[10:52] <adriyel> kevix, time patience and experience are what made my Linux experience transition into something smooth
[10:52] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  donate him the machine you're irc'ing on.
[10:52] <Quarupted> ompaul, what are you talking about.. I was in here the other day asking about a completely different machine
[10:52] <Quarupted> My Machine
[10:52] <adriyel> Quarupted, what is the problem
[10:52] <ompaul> well give him a lone of yours
[10:53] <Quarupted> ompaul, you are full of BS the only other machine I have ever asked about in here was my own it has @GB of ram not 64
[10:53] <bluefrog-10> Quarupted, so take your machine, lend them for a few days until they have a decent machine to play withj..
[10:53] <kevix> adriyel, that is my point. he dont have it.
[10:53] <Xitium> ok I have a question I like to listen to Coast to Coast AM and have a subscription to thier streaming audio how do I play it? when I click on the link it wants to save it and open it in gedit
[10:53] <ccooke> Quarupted: You have knoppix?
[10:53] <Quarupted> Right now Im on Knoppix
[10:53] <ccooke> Quarupted: and you want to install Ubuntu on three machines?
[10:53] <ccooke> and you can access the hard disks?
[10:53] <ccooke> from Knoppix?
[10:53] <aftertaf> ccooke:  that have 64MB ram and without a cdrom to burn the iso onto
[10:54] <Quarupted> Well right now Im worried about the webserver Ill get to th DB box and the Fileserver later
[10:54] <dducko> !tell dducko about realplayer
[10:54] <ccooke> aftertaf: easy.
[10:54] <Quarupted> I HAVE  CDROM
[10:54] <kevix> Xitium, what kind of file is it? real player?
[10:54] <Quarupted> wtf
[10:54] <cevizoglu> Quarupted, do you have enough RAM on the machine you're irc'ing on?
[10:54] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  all 3 died?
[10:54] <ccooke> Quarupted: okay, that's very easy.
[10:54] <Xitium> it says its cgi
[10:54] <ccooke> Quarupted: How good are you with linux?
[10:54] <adriyel> kevix, so what is the noise in this channel about? this needs to be taken into offtopic if it isn't going to be about Ubuntu
[10:54] <Mr_Milenko> Yall are confusing the kid
[10:54] <Mr_Milenko> rofl
[10:54] <Quarupted> Been an admin for 6 years why?
[10:54] <crisco> ok so i got through finally and it asking me whaere it was downloaded to
[10:54] <Xitium> kevix, it says its name is stream.cgi
[10:54] <ccooke> Quarupted: you'll need to understand grub to do this. It's not hard, but I'm at work and I can't talk you through it.
[10:54] <Quarupted> It is about Ubuntu
[10:55] <crisco> where do i find it-all it did was put an icon on my desktop
[10:55] <dducko> crisco check your private chat
[10:55] <ccooke> Quarupted: Okay. On knoppix, you have fdisk
[10:55] <adriyel> Quarupted, you've admin'ed for 6 years, and you're in here?
[10:55] <kevix> Xitium, could I see the URL, if that's ok?
[10:55] <bluefrog-10> Quarupted, am willing to help, move to a channel and tell me which..
[10:55] <ccooke> adriyel: I've been a sysadmin for the last 8 years. Your point being?
[10:55] <ccooke> Quarupted: Use fdisk to partition the disks.
[10:55] <Quarupted> never worked Ubuntu, OKAY I can handle I only have 1 Question, thats it, how do I install without Gnome...?
[10:55] <ompaul> to install the most basic of systems when the command prompt comes up at the start of an install you type the word "server" this puts together a basic install no WM
[10:55] <ccooke> Quarupted: then, use debootstrap to build an ubuntu distro on the disks.
[10:55] <kevix> adriyel, he is free to troll here all he wants its a free internet.
[10:55] <Terminus> hello. anybody here ever tried running lvm over software raid? the ubuntu installer is crapping on me when i tried to do that. it configured the first LV just fine but won't let me add another LV. there's also an error when i start the LVM configuration. /dev/md/0p1 doesn't exist yet so linux won't know about any changes.
[10:56] <ccooke> Quarupted: after that, chroot into the new distro, install a kernel and configure Grub
[10:56] <adriyel> ccooke, meh. I've been using Linux for 4-5 years on/off...don't know that much but usually don't need to ask questions anymore :P
[10:56] <adriyel> unless they're programming related, but thats a whole diff issue
[10:56] <ccooke> Quarupted: there's information on doing all of that online
[10:56] <bluefrog-10> Quarupted, am willing to help, move to a channel and tell me which..
[10:56] <aftertaf> ompaul:  server? on warty too?
[10:56] <ompaul> iirc y
[10:57] <ccooke> adriyel: heh. The day you believe you've learned everything is the day you become obsolete ;-)
[10:57] <Quarupted> OMG this is stupid can anyone tell me how to install and skip all graphical elements for now
[10:57] <Quarupted> thats all I need to know
[10:57] <ccooke> Quarupted: I just did.
[10:57] <bluefrog-10> Quarupted, am willing to help, move to a channel and tell me which..
[10:57] <Quarupted> Dun tell me RTFM, i dun have time or I would
[10:57] <dducko> Its been said several times.
[10:57] <ccooke> Quarupted: be calm, and read what I said again.
[10:57] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  i did too. type server at boot prompt on cd.
[10:57] <johnnybezak> hey guys what font does fedora use for their desktop?
[10:57] <Quarupted> Thanks was that hard
[10:57] <Mr_Milenko> Quarupted: ok.. put the disc in... and where it says "Installation" type server
[10:57] <Quarupted> But seriously thank you
[10:57] <Mr_Milenko> and you were told this about 15 minutes ago
[10:57] <Mr_Milenko> twice
[10:57] <Terminus> anybody willing to help me? :)
[10:57] <Mr_Milenko> be more obervant
[10:57] <ompaul> Terminus, ask
[10:58] <Mr_Milenko> observant
[10:58] <Terminus> or should i just skip running lvm on top of software raid for now?
[10:58] <ompaul> Mr_Milenko, glad you saw that :-)
[10:58] <aftertaf> Terminus:  no idea :/
[10:58] <AEnertia> Hi all
[10:58] <Quarupted> Mr_Milenko, nope I was told what to do but not how to do it
[10:58] <Terminus> ompaul: i did. i can ask again if you want. :)
[10:58] <ccooke> Quarupted: Debootstrap is the tool which ubuntu and debian use to build installs. It'll give you a very minimal environment, but everything needed to install more stuff
[10:58] <signius> software RAID is evil
[10:58] <ompaul> Terminus,  do :)
[10:58] <Terminus> ompaul: hello. anybody here ever tried running lvm over software raid? the ubuntu installer is crapping on me when i tried to do that. it configured the first LV just fine but won't let me add another LV. there's also an error when i start the LVM configuration. /dev/md/0p1 doesn't exist yet so linux won't know about any changes.
[10:58] <ccooke> Quarupted: you can pull the ubuntu deb from the ubuntu archive
[10:58] <bluefrog-10> Quarupted, am willing to help, move to a channel and tell me which..fourth time
[10:58] <AEnertia> Is the breezy kernel patched with softwaresuspend2 and reiser4?
[10:58] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  not exactly true.... we did say boot on the cd and type server.
[10:59] <Quarupted> nope ya didnt
[10:59] <Terminus> signius: yes, it is. but useful when you don't have enough resources too. :)
[10:59] <Quarupted> bluefrog-10, thanks but i dont need help anymore
[10:59] <Quarupted> like I said everytime you repeated yourself
[10:59] <kresten> *sigh*
[10:59] <meng> what is the apt line for breezy backports?
[10:59] <dducko> crisco did you get your problem fixed?
[10:59] <bluefrog-10> Quarupted, so quit talking and run to save the lives of ur uncles...
[10:59] <ompaul> Terminus, no idea, not doing that :-/
[11:00] <adriyel> Quarupted, if you don't need help anymore, then, BUH-BYE, take your rude butt out of here, thank you.
[11:00] <AEnertia> alternatiely is there a kernel .config for the brezzy kernel on the web somewhere?
[11:00] <boogieman> Terminus: Are you trying to do RAID or LVM ?
[11:00] <Quarupted> No I think Ill stay here while I build another Machine real quick
[11:00] <aftertaf> AEnertia:  you have one on your disk... in /boot/
[11:00] <Quarupted> I 4got I cant do RAID on this machine anyways
[11:00] <AEnertia> aftertaf, not if i'm not running ubuntu!
[11:00] <signius> I cannot assist with your LVM on SW RAID but i would say if something is important enough to be requiring needing RAID it has got to be worth the expense of even a real cheap HW RAID Card
[11:00] <AEnertia> ;-p
[11:00] <Quarupted> Ill have to scrap one together
[11:01] <Mr_Milenko> "LAWL I'm a servar admun fur 6 yars.. i r know teh linoox really good"
[11:01] <aftertaf> lol :) right.
[11:01] <Severian> meng, backports is not ready yet, as far as I know.  There needs to be a little more time.
[11:01] <bluefrog-10> Quarupted, u wouln't have other nicks such as nickroberts and mabus by chance?
[11:01] <AEnertia> I just want the kernel config and sources
[11:01] <Mr_Milenko> what kind of server admin doesnt know how to install linux :-/
[11:01] <aftertaf> AEnertia:  i'll mail you mine.. PM.
[11:01] <adriyel> signius, or getting a mobo with raid.
[11:01] <aftertaf> Mr_Milenko:  lol
[11:01] <cevizoglu> yeah, and he can't afford more than 64 MB of ram...
[11:01] <meng> Severian: is this correct: deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/ breezy-backports-staging main universe multiverse restricted
[11:01] <Quarupted> bluefrog-10, nope only other alias is quar
[11:01] <Mr_Milenko> I'm running a 400mhz pos system on dialup
[11:01] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[11:01] <Quarupted> I'm seriously not a troll and I'm sorry if I was bein rude, which I was
[11:01] <signius> I always go the route of a dedicated raid card when possible not a great fan of onboard raid
[11:02] <boogieman> Terminus: Are you trying to do RAID or LVM ?
[11:02] <dawnF> anyone know if it's possible to use kate under gnome?
[11:02] <Mr_Milenko> yes dawnF
[11:02] <AEnertia> dawnF, of course it is
[11:02] <Mr_Milenko> its possible :)
[11:02] <signius> boogieman he is trying to LVM on top of RAID
[11:02] <Quarupted> Just I was woken up by a call from my uncle and he was all the UPS blew up and the fire took out 3 boxes and he was all FIX IT
[11:02] <Severian> meng, it looks good, but there is nothing there yet.
[11:03] <cevizoglu> Quarupted, how do you install anything on burned up boxes?
[11:03] <kresten> How do I mount a cd-drive?
[11:03] <boogieman> signius: is he trying to do all this @ install time or after installation ?
[11:03] <Quarupted> of course the main webserver is right next to the ups then the fileserver
[11:03] <Quarupted> and the database box
[11:03] <signius> From what i can gather i only just got back in the room he is trying to do all this during the install
[11:03] <Mr_Milenko> cevizoglu: put a good system on top of the burnt boxes and use them as a desk?
[11:04] <Quarupted> cevizoglu, im not, hence the 64megs of ram, there scrap systems i threw together from parts around my shop
[11:04] <Mr_Milenko> REEEECYCLE!
[11:04] <dawnF> hows can you do that without isntalling the KDE
[11:04] <dawnF> ?
[11:04] <scanwinder> how do i set the CC environment variable?
[11:04] <Quarupted> couple PII and a 486
[11:04] <aftertaf> dawnF:  kate has its dependencies.....
[11:04] <cevizoglu> Quarupted, what's stopping you from using dsl?
[11:04] <kemik> export CC="aapapapapap"
[11:04] <dawnF> so if i just use the synaptic package manager
[11:04] <Quarupted> cevizoglu, what dsl?
[11:04] <dawnF> and download all that is required
[11:04] <cevizoglu> Quarupted, damn-small linux
[11:04] <dawnF> it should work?
[11:05] <bluefrog-10> Quarupted, may i suggest something?
[11:05] <adriyel> Quarupted, Damn Small Linux, its a minimalist distro
[11:05] <Quarupted> Cause he demands all his boxes run Ubuntu
[11:05] <scanwinder> kemik: how do i set it to gcc version 3.4.5?
[11:05] <Quarupted> he is a contributer
[11:05] <dudes> how is that
[11:05] <signius> maybe checkout Vector Linux also
[11:05] <signius> or SLAX
[11:05] <adriyel> Quarupted, a contrib wants to host stuff.
[11:05] <dm> EEEK serious problem with amaroK, i play an mp3 and it "lags" and drags some of the playback, its wierd
[11:05] <kemik> scanwinder: why do you have to set the CC var btw ?
[11:05] <adriyel> signius, he already said Ubuntu was a requirement
[11:05] <Quarupted> huh?
[11:05] <brownie17> bob2, are you guys official volunteers?
[11:05] <kemik> it's usually done in the makefiles
[11:05] <Quarupted> No his company has nothing to do with Ubuntu he just contributes to them
[11:06] <brownie17> Quarupted, you talking to me?
[11:06] <scanwinder> kemik: i need to set it to gcc version 3.4.5 to install vmware
[11:06] <signius> You cannot insist you got have UBUNTU and als that it has to run on a 486 and expext it to happen and work just becuase you say it has to be so
[11:06] <scanwinder> kemik: it had an error and said i need to do that
[11:06] <Quarupted> Im talking to ever said a contributer wants to host stuff
[11:06] <adriyel> Quarupted, we've established that, thank you.
[11:06] <kemik> scanwinder: well i dunno but, export CC="gcc" or CC="gcc-3.4.5" perhaps
[11:06] <Pyrotas> #ubuntu-de
[11:07] <Quarupted> adriyel, no someone hadnt "established" it if you would look
[11:07] <aftertaf> Quarupted:  if you're installing, can we move on to something else please?
[11:07] <kemik> #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps
[11:07] <Quarupted> aftertaf, you dont have to listen to me just type /ignore Quarupted
[11:07] <adriyel> Quarupted, I still don't understand why you're here. indeed @ kemik offtopic please.
[11:07] <Xitium> kevix, you still around?
[11:07] <adriyel> hello Illifor
[11:07] <Illifor> hello adriyel
[11:08] <Quarupted> Im allways in here, I have Idled here for the last 2 years
[11:08] <kevix> Xitium, yes. I'm listening to coast to coast!
[11:08] <aftertaf> i know that, thx.....there are new users that also need help. dont monopolise.
[11:08] <aftertaf> how can you be building the box if .... you're yabbering on channel
[11:09] <Quarupted> aftertaf, well I guess im just good cause all I have left is the RAID card and its done
[11:09] <Quarupted> and I found another stick of RAM yey
[11:09] <Quarupted> Now it will have 128 at least
[11:09] <kresten> How do I mount a cd-drive from the teminal?
[11:10] <Quarupted> sudo mount /dev/(whatever the device is) /mountpoint
[11:10] <Xitium> kevix, :) how did you get it to work?
[11:10] <Ng> kresten: This ought to do the trick: sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[11:10] <Severian> kresten, are you running breezy?
[11:10] <kevix> kresten, with the mount command
[11:10] <kresten> Severian, yup!
[11:10] <dawnF> great kate works, i love kate!
[11:10] <Ng> kresten: in fact you shouldn't even need the sudo if the drive was detected by the ubuntu installer
[11:10] <Severian> kresten, the CD should auto mount.  So, just put it in.
[11:10] <kevix> Xitium, you need a web browser, real player and the realplayer web plugin. and then you need to set it up.
[11:11] <Quarupted> yea then ya dun have all the permissions problems
[11:11] <aftertaf> kresten:  a cd, or an iso image?
[11:11] <kresten> I installed from the drive, but it doesn't auto mount
[11:11] <boogieman> kresten: cat /etc/fstab and find your cdrom device (if it's detected; it should be there)
[11:11] <Xitium> ok well I have a web browser (firefox) I don't have the other stuff can I get them with synaptic?
[11:11] <adriyel> Xitium, yes
[11:11] <Ng> erk
[11:11] <kevix> Xitium, I am checking...
[11:12] <adriyel> Xitium, make sure you refresh/update it first
[11:12] <Ng> adriyel: the realplayer in apt sucks, 10GOLD from real.com is far better
[11:12] <Quarupted> I just wish i could figure out how to mount a remote drive with NFS as a regular user
[11:12] <adriyel> Xitium, repositories might be an issue...
[11:12] <kresten> Does it make any difference that it is a usb drive?
[11:12] <adriyel> Ng, no prior experience. He asked for the existence of it, not the quality
[11:12] <adriyel> binary question, not qualitative
[11:12] <elephanthunter> Ubuntu is supposed to be a major supporter of python.
[11:12] <Quarupted> kresten, ya it does that means its probably not /dev/cdrom
[11:12] <elephanthunter> What projects for Ubuntu are coded in python?
[11:12] <dawnF> does anyone know where GAIM settings are saved on the system?
[11:12] <Ng> adriyel: imo people here should be anticipating what people are *really* asking and giving them the best answers :)
[11:13] <adriyel> Ng, pass on the psychic powers kindly.
[11:13] <kevix> elephanthunter, lots.... Mark Shuttleworth LOVES python!
[11:13] <Ng> adriyel: you don't need to be psychic
[11:13] <boogieman> kresten: tail -f /var/log/messages and plug the USB, it'll show you the device, if not; try tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[11:13] <Xitium> adriyel, what would I search for? I tried real player and didn
[11:13] <adriyel> Ng, I wasn't outfitted with branch prediction in my processor either
[11:13] <Xitium> t find anything
[11:14] <kresten> It shows up under "cat /etc/fstab"
[11:14] <adriyel> Ng, does multiverse need to enabled for real-player? or should he just grab a .deb?
[11:14] <elephanthunter> kevix: Is there a list or something of them? :)
[11:14] <dducko> get the deb
[11:14] <kresten> But under options it says " noauto"???
[11:14] <dducko> youll end up with that anyway
[11:14] <elephanthunter> kevix: Cause I'm a programmer and dying to do some development
[11:14] <boogieman> kresten: if it's a CDROM, you can mount it: mount /media/cdrom
[11:14] <adriyel> sudo dpkg -i blah.
[11:14] <Ng> adriyel: you need to download the installed from http://www.real.com/freeplayer/?rppr=hc.org - there's no deb that I know unfortunately
[11:14] <Ng> "installer" I meant
[11:15] <adriyel> Ng, tell him, not me. I don't use RealPlayer
[11:15] <adriyel> I just use XMMS/BMP + MP3/FLAC
[11:15] <Sp4rKy> anyone use metisse ?
[11:15] <kevix> elephanthunter, checkout the site for 'bounties' they offer money for doing requested things.
[11:15] <kresten> boogieman, "/dev/scd0 does not exist"
[11:15] <dducko> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/r/realplay/
[11:15] <NutterUk> hello if someone wants to control my desktop how do they do it?
[11:15] <kresten> boogieman, it says...
[11:15] <dducko> theres the deb.. its the bottom one Ng
[11:16] <adriyel> NutterUk, VNC is usually a handy method.
[11:16] <Severian> NutterUk, they could ask you.
[11:16] <Ng> dducko: interesting
[11:16] <NutterUk> I have set it up for remote desktop but how do they do it?
[11:16] <kevix> Xitium, check here http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/#realplayer (come back if you need more help)
[11:16] <adriyel> NutterUk, I assume you mean your literal desktop and not your box. In a more expert sense, they could hack your box, install a rootkit and ssh in and steal your bank account. But noone does that stuff anymore, right guys?
[11:16] <Severian> NutterUk, VNC is the most common method.  FreeNX is coming up fast, though.
[11:16] <boogieman> kresten: tell me, are you trying to mount a IDE CDROM or something else
[11:16] <Xitium> kevix, thanks
[11:16] <dducko> very bottom choice Ng  just dpkg -i real*.deb
[11:16] <ompaul> adriyel, not since last week anyway
[11:17] <NutterUk> VNC - where can I get that from?
[11:17] <adriyel> ompaul, LOL
[11:17] <dducko> You have it by default NutterUk
[11:17] <Ng> dducko: I already have it installed from the real.com installer anyway and I would rebuild that .deb myself first anyway ;)
[11:17] <Severian> NutterUk, they run their vnc client software and give it your ip address or name.
[11:17] <NutterUk> dducko thanks Ill look for it now
[11:17] <Ng> dducko: but thanks for pointing it out, maybe it can make it into multiverse or something
[11:17] <adriyel> FreeNX eh? that'll be my new paranoid schizophrenic toy then
[11:17] <NutterUk> Srverian thanks
[11:17] <Sp4rKy> because i try to run METISSE and i can't
[11:17] <Sp4rKy> it doesn't want to run
[11:17] <dducko> System _> Preference -> Remote Desktop NutterUk
[11:18] <dducko> that starts the server for you
[11:18] <kresten> boogieman, tail gives "localhost kernel: [4367323.146000]  usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 24"
[11:18] <dducko> there other system will need a client
[11:18] <Severian> NutterUk, do they already have a vnc client or do you need a pointer?
[11:18] <NutterUk> dducko Ive set that bit up but how would i access there computer?
[11:18] <selinium> elephanthunter, if you want to help out   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[11:18] <dducko> They would need a server too..
[11:18] <boogieman> kresten: vi the file and check that message block; it should give you the device name
[11:18] <adriyel> dducko, are you certain he's not trying to be a 1337 h4x0r?
[11:19] <Mr_Milenko> PICO!!!
[11:19] <dducko> What OS are you on trying connect to what OS?
[11:19] <NutterUk> Cause what it is I've started using Linux and my sister has XP
[11:19] <NutterUk> and she always needs to me do something to her PC
[11:19] <NutterUk> I use to use messenger
[11:19] <adriyel> ahhh, k.
[11:19] <Mr_Milenko> install vnc
[11:19] <aftertaf> NutterUk:  use rdesktop then
[11:19] <Mr_Milenko> or vnc
[11:19] <elephanthunter> selinium: Very creative name
[11:19] <Severian> Tell your sister to go to realvnc.com and download the free version.
[11:19] <dducko> yeah..
[11:19] <kresten> boogieman, sorry, I don't understand? (noob)
[11:19] <NutterUk> OK Thanks guys
[11:19] <johnsie2k> Anyone know any good war games apart from wesnorth and netpanzer?
[11:20] <dducko> then vncviewer in a terminal on your side
[11:20] <adriyel> VNC is good fun.
[11:20] <Severian> johnsie2k, I like Risk2
[11:20] <dducko> lol yes it is
[11:20] <dducko> and super useful
[11:20] <Mr_Milenko> RAdmin for windows is fun...
[11:20] <dducko> use it to admin a NWN server
[11:20] <Mr_Milenko> i scared the bejesus out of my sister with that
[11:20] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[11:20] <adriyel> john the ripper is amusing.
[11:20] <selinium> elephanthunter, :)
[11:20] <adriyel> dducko, you admin a ded NWN server with VNC?
[11:21] <adriyel> inefficient, dontcha think? :P
[11:21] <larsrohdi> Hi! Does mplayer play .rm?
[11:21] <dducko> ded?
[11:21] <boogieman> kresten: edit (vi) your log files (/var/log/messages,dmesg) and search for the device name
[11:21] <selinium> elephanthunter, so what other than python do you know?
[11:21] <dducko> dead?
[11:21] <adriyel> larsrohdi, try it and let me know
[11:21] <Mr_Milenko> people still play never winter nights?
[11:21] <adriyel> dducko, dedicated = ded
[11:21] <dducko> its sorta dedicated
[11:21] <Mr_Milenko> he uses it to cheat
[11:21] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[11:21] <Xitium> kevix, I get this >> ./realplay-10.0.2.608-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:21] <Mr_Milenko> opens up the console and types in some stuff
[11:21] <johnsie2k> hmm could fidn risk2 in the repos
[11:21] <Illifor> i used to love neverwinter nights
[11:21] <Mr_Milenko> "lawl i r teh ubar now"
[11:21] <larsrohdi> adriyel, ok, but what player does?
[11:21] <kresten> boogieman, ok, will do.
[11:22] <Illifor> how about the new axis and allies
[11:22] <usuario> server irc.irc-hispano.org
[11:22] <elephanthunter> selinium: php, C#, OO pascal, VB .net,
[11:22] <dducko> mainly used ot reboot the machine and restart the nwn server
[11:22] <Severian> johnsie2k, Risk2 is not in the repos.  I did not know that was a requirement for you.  You should say that.  It is a commercial closed source game.  But, I like it.
[11:22] <fishdish> there should be a support for rm in mplayer( i havent tried), but still there are other options such as vlc or the real realplayer for linux ;-)
[11:22] <boogieman> kresten: do this; tail -f /var/log/messages /var/log/dmesg; plug out the USB, and plug it back in .. it should show you the device
[11:23] <elephanthunter> selinium: I know enough C++ to be dangerous
[11:23] <johnsie2k> well it's nnopt really a requirement hehe
[11:23] <johnsie2k> just amkes it eaiser
[11:23] <boogieman> Hello all, i'm still trying to get my nc6120 (AGP : Intel 915GM / 5.04 Hoary) to go beyond 1024x768 resolution.. I have tried 915resolution/855resolution tools, played with xorg.conf, but still nothing worked; can someone please help me?
[11:23] <Severian> boogieman, how about just doing a lsusb while it is plugged in?
[11:24] <selinium> elephanthunter, cool.. funnily enough there is a chap in ##uk that is looking for some c++ help. But don't worry about that!
[11:24] <aftertaf> boogieman:  check with nvidia that your card can go beyond, an that your monitor can to.
[11:24] <selinium> elephanthunter, I am a php programmer aswell!
[11:24] <aftertaf> nethack doesnt look like fun
[11:24] <kresten> boogieman, Will try it out later! Thanks for your help.
[11:25] <boogieman> aftertaf: 915resolutions -l says it can
[11:25] <kevix> Xitium, you need 'apt-get install libstdc++5'
[11:25] <fishdish> selinium: good, want a job?
[11:25] <boogieman> anybody uses a compaq nc6120 here ??
[11:25] <elephanthunter> selinium: One of my favorite languages
[11:25] <kevix> elephanthunter, in linux we have mono, not c#
[11:26] <fishdish> novell monkeyboogielanguage
[11:26] <fishdish> =DD
[11:26] <Xitium> kevix, E: Package libstdc++5 has no installation candidate
[11:26] <elephanthunter> kevix: You mean Mono instead of Framworks .NET
[11:26] <bluefrog-10> boogieman, is that a laptop?
[11:26] <elephanthunter> kevix: C# and VB.NET are still supported
[11:26] <boogieman> bluefrog-10: yes, it's a HP Compaq NC6120
[11:26] <Severian> boogieman, why do you have one.  Are both ports active?
[11:26] <boogieman> bluefrog-10: yes, it's a HP Compaq NC6120 laptop
[11:27] <bluefrog-10> boogieman, is there a possibility u install breezy instead of hoary on it?
[11:27] <selinium> fishdish, take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <kevix> Xitium, ++5 is not the current version. So you need a newer version of realplayer (helix)
[11:28] <boogieman> bluefrog-10: I thought HP supports better on this port
[11:28] <boogieman> Severian: you mean breezy / hoary ??
[11:28] <Xitium> kevix, I tried getting the one from the realplayer website and get the same error
[11:28] <selinium> elephanthunter, you might be able to help on a little project of mine! :)
[11:29] <bluefrog-10> boogieman, too bad, breezy gets 915GM working straight 1200x800 with 3D (at least on my sony)
[11:29] <elephanthunter> selinium: sounds fun
[11:29] <adriyel> what is it with people and realplayer? I just don't understand it
[11:29] <selinium> elephanthunter, pm?
[11:29] <selinium> elephanthunter, :)
[11:29] <elephanthunter> selinium: kk
[11:30] <Severian> boogieman, no I thought you were talking about a dual port nic from Compaq.  The part number is similar.
[11:31] <kevix> Xitium, you have warty or breezy?
[11:31] <Xitium> kevix,  breezy
[11:31] <Severian> boogieman, and I have been thinking about getting a dual port nic for my firewall.  That was why I asked.
[11:32] <kevix> Xitium, try this: http://ubuntuguide.org/#realplayer
[11:32] <boogieman> bluefrog-10: I'm only 3 days old with Ubuntu, can you tell me a bit about hoary vs. breezy ?
[11:32] <Xitium> kevix, will do thanks again
[11:32] <boogieman> Severian: ok, no worries
[11:33] <bluefrog-10> boogieman, breezy latest release so u'd better download that one, u'll get more things working (hopefully)
[11:33] <boogieman> bluefrog-10: thanks, will try that
[11:33] <nekostar> eh
[11:34] <nekostar> when i add a user
[11:34] <nekostar> i get no sound on the system,...
[11:34] <nekostar> how do i configure my sound card to work?
[11:34] <kevix> boogieman, Ubuntu make new version of its OS every 6 months. warty warthog, hoard hedgehog, breezy bagger, and the latest...
[11:34] <bluefrog-10> u need t add the user to the audio group
[11:34] <daaku> could someone with current knowledge of hardware do me a favor: on this page, http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/system-guide-200508.ars/2, the seem to refer to the motherboard as being ATX, but it seems newegg says otherwise: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813186066. does this mean their cabinet suggestion is a mismatch (since it is ATX)?
[11:34] <deeLer> i've installed xorg and xdm .... when xdm runs, screen goes black and returns to console .... startx works and launches windowmaker .... what's wrong ?
[11:34] <nekostar> o right./... i keep forgetting that thnx
[11:35] <adriyel> deeLer, have you checked your xinitrc?
[11:36] <deeLer> adriyel, no ... what about it ?
[11:36] <Severian> daaku, newegg is down at the moment.  What did Newegg call it?
[11:36] <boogieman> kevix: thanks, downloading 5.10 now
[11:37] <silasj> hello all
[11:37] <silasj> hey people, I would like to start "pon" in Ubuntu start, and disable gdm. Any idea?
[11:38] <silasj> it seems not having a rc.local script...
[11:38] <daaku> Severian: it says the MB is Micro ATX and the cabinet is ATX Mid Tower
[11:38] <deeLer> adriyel, it says . /etc/X11/Xsession
[11:38] <Xitium> kevix, ok I found a repository with that lib installed that and real player so now I am able to to connect to the stream but it plays about 1 second and then starts rebuffering again
[11:38] <adriyel> deeLer, your xinitrc might have something to do with it?
[11:38] <Severian> daaku, Are you looking for a good budget system?  Because computer geeks has a great deal at the moment.  (and I don't have any relationship with them except as a customer)
[11:39] <adriyel> ubuntu, creative name there.
[11:39] <kevix> daaku, I see C720 (atx) Z720 (micro-atx) from the 'ars' article.
[11:39] <adriyel> ubuntu, is it african?
[11:39] <deeLer> is there a  log file for xdm  ?
[11:39] <ubuntu> lol
[11:39] <ubuntu> I don't lnow
[11:39] <ubuntu> know*
[11:39] <ubuntu> ;>
[11:39] <cevizoglu> adriyel, south african
[11:39] <alexissoft> hi
[11:39] <Severian> daaku, a Micro-ATX motherboard will fit in a ATX case, almost always.
[11:39] <deeLer> when i run it on the console, no output whatsoever
[11:39] <daaku> Severian: yup, i am. kinda out of touch, so going with arstechnica's bugdet config mostly
[11:39] <ubuntu> I'm LV user ;))
[11:40] <daaku> kevix: i saw that, but it seems like they implied both the MB and case they selected to be ATX, but newegg said the MB was micro atx, so i wasnt sure if they made a mistake
[11:40] <kevix> Xitium, try it again.
[11:40] <adriyel> cevizoglu, I was being facetious
[11:41] <Mabus06> sevarian
[11:41] <daaku> Severian: link?
[11:41] <Mabus06> Any reason why I shouldn't give up on ubuntu and try to see if nvidia works with fedora?
[11:41] <adriyel> Mabus06, whats the problem?
[11:41] <adriyel> I have nvidia-glx working fine here
[11:41] <Xitium> kevix, well I guess I have to settle for 8k quality :( cuz on 20 it just keeps buffering - congestion
[11:42] <deeLer> i've installed xorg and xdm .... when xdm runs, screen goes black and returns to console .... startx works and launches windowmaker .... what's wrong ?
[11:42] <adriyel> Mabus06, this isn't being biased, Fedora really sucks man. If you're gonna try something else, try Mepis
[11:42] <pipoun> Hey I'va installed the mplayer plugin for firefox but the videos keep on beaing played with totem in firefox, any advice??
[11:42] <kevix> Xitium, it played find here (more or less) could just be an internet traffic jam on your end.
[11:42] <Xitium> maybe
[11:42] <Severian> daaku, look at http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=GW4100-BB
[11:42] <Mabus06> adriyel: okay, when I start it up with the bios set to use my nvidia instead of onboard
[11:42] <kevix> Xitium, I'm on dialup? what you got?
[11:42] <Mabus06> it freezes at starting hotplug subsystem
[11:42] <adriyel> onboard what?
[11:42] <Mabus06> video
[11:42] <Severian> daaku, or lets go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:42] <cevizoglu> Mabus06, if you're going to try something else, I personally would try suse or mandriva
[11:43] <adriyel> cevizoglu, uh, no, Mepis.
[11:43] <adriyel> lol
[11:43] <adriyel> cevizoglu, SuSE is buggy, I suppose Mandriva would be ok
[11:43] <Mabus06> Well, I already have fedora downloaded and I have friends who use it who could help me
[11:43] <PadrePio> hi all
[11:43] <daaku> Severian: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:43] <adriyel> Mabus06, seriously though, you need to install the OS with the nvidia already enabled
[11:44] <PadrePio> can someone help me with ip masquerading?
[11:44] <Mabus06> that was what I tried first install, adriyel
[11:44] <adriyel> what NVidia card do you have?
[11:44] <kevix> PadrePio, apt-get install ipmasq
[11:44] <Xitium> kevix, cable
[11:44] <Mabus06> and it freezes at the same part
[11:44] <Xitium> kevix, were you listening to the 20k or 8k?
[11:44] <kevix> Xitium, that seems odd?!
[11:44] <Mabus06> (starting hotplug subsystem)
[11:44] <PadrePio> kevix really I wanted to use iptables
[11:44] <Mabus06> FX 5500
[11:44] <kevix> Xitium, I only get 4k on a good day, so must be 8k
[11:45] <scanwinder> i need to install C header files, what package would that be?
[11:45] <adriyel> Mabus06, alright, what happens when you try it with a normal install with the nvidia already enabled?
[11:45] <frans-th> hi all, i use breezy, and dont want to use gij,
[11:45] <kevix> PadrePio, ok. use iptables. I was just suggesting an easier way.
[11:45] <frans-th> can i remove it and replace with sun java?
[11:45] <Mabus06> freezes at the same part it freezes now
[11:45] <Xitium> kevix, yeah I can get the 8k fine but 20k is all messed up
[11:45] <PadrePio> kevix is it esier to use ipmasq?
[11:45] <adriyel> scanwinder, linux-headers search for that in synaptic
[11:45] <kevix> PadrePio, it was for me.
[11:45] <Mabus06> works fine until first boot, freezes at starting hotplug subsystem
[11:46] <adriyel> or sudo apt-get install linux-headers-386
[11:46] <adriyel> or 686, or whatever the case may be
[11:46] <PadrePio> because actually I set up actually almost everything
[11:46] <kevix> PadrePio, I wanted to attach a computer to my internet connected pc.
[11:46] <adriyel> Mabus06, they both do the same thing, no matter what way you install huh?
[11:46] <Mabus06> yes
[11:46] <adriyel> well.
[11:47] <odie5533> Anyone know how to make nautilus know I have a cd burner?
[11:47] <Mabus06> and my card had full functionality using windows
[11:47] <frans-th> anyonw have tips to replace gij with sun java ?
[11:47] <kevix> scanwinder, apt-get install build-essential
[11:47] <Xitium> is there something for linux that will play the windows media streaming audio?
[11:47] <PadrePio> what I need to do is, with 2 eth cards, route packets with my pc instead of the router
[11:47] <adriyel> I'm sure it did Mabus06, AFTER you installed drivers
[11:47] <Mabus06> yup
[11:47] <adriyel> I am emphasizing the after you installed drivers, because Linux isn't being given the opportunity to work out a driver...
[11:47] <Mabus06> but I installed the drivers and such on this one too
[11:48] <adriyel> use the onboard, install nvidia-glx, get it configged properly
[11:48] <adriyel> then reboot, swap, boot
[11:48] <kevix> Xitium, xine, but using realplayer is more linux compatible.
[11:48] <Mabus06> adriyel, #helpme
[11:48] <Xitium> yeah
[11:49] <Ng> Xitium: mplayer will often play windows streams that other things won't, but the very newest WMA/WMV standards aren't supportet yet afaik
[11:49] <scanwinder> where are the C header files kept?
[11:49] <Ng> all that damn DRM
[11:49] <kevix> scanwinder, apt-get install build-essential
[11:49] <scanwinder> kevix: ive done that
[11:50] <scanwinder> im trying to install vmware and it cant find them
[11:50] <odie5533> how do I make an ISO of a cd?
[11:50] <NutterUk> hello how do i installed .deb files?
[11:50] <Xitium> Ng what about vlc?
[11:50] <adriyel> ubotu tell Mabus06 about nvidia glx
[11:50] <NutterUk> install
[11:50] <adriyel> ubotu tell Mabus06 about nvidia
[11:50] <aftertaf> NutterUk:  dpkg -i debfile.deb
[11:50] <odie5533> NutterUk, dpkg -i <package name>
[11:50] <kevix> scanwinder, /usr/include/
[11:50] <Ng> Xitium: possibly, I don't tend to use that myself, I use totem first and then fallback on mplayer
[11:51] <Xitium> Ng, totem crashes my x
[11:51] <NutterUk> is it not possible to get a prograsm that does it?
[11:51] <Ng> Xitium: lame, have you reported a bug about it? X should never crash :/
[11:51] <scanwinder> kevix: it says they arent for my running kernel - what do i do?
[11:52] <Xitium> Ng haha with my video card im amazed that it doesn't burst into flames this stupid ati 200m was a bear to get working
[11:52] <kevix> scanwinder, what say that?
[11:52] <adriyel> scanwinder, sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[11:52] <scanwinder> kevix: vmware when i give it the directory to the C header files....when i give it /usr/include
[11:52] <adriyel> scanwinder, run that command LITERALLY
[11:53] <scanwinder> adriyel: ok
[11:54] <scanwinder> adriyel: i installed linux-kernel-headers and, still have the same problem
[11:54] <adriyel> scanwinder, tell me why you're installing the headers again?
[11:54] <scanwinder> adriyel: to install vmware - it wants them
[11:54] <odie5533> is there anyway to tell nautilus my cd writer can write cds?
[11:54] <adriyel> give me the exact error message please scanwinder
[11:54] <kevix> scanwinder, 'sudo apt-get install kernel-package'
[11:55] <adriyel> kevix, he's already got the headers installed
[11:55] <kevix> scanwinder, that is the only thing I use: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
[11:55] <Xitium> i installed vlc but I can't find where it put it, i want to tell firefox that when it encounters this type of file to open it with vlc but i can't find it anyone know where it is?
[11:55] <kevix> adriyel, is he trying to build a kernel inside of vmware?
[11:56] <NutterUk> hi trying to  dpkg -i debfile.deb but it says i need superuser prvialiges
[11:56] <kevix> Xitium, 'whereis vlc'
[11:56] <adriyel> kevix, I think VMWare wants it to install itself
[11:56] <adriyel> kevix, I can't be certain why myself, but w/e
[11:56] <adriyel> haven't installed the bloody thing in years
[11:57] <Xitium> kevix, how do I know which one to point it to? >> vlc: /usr/bin/vlc /usr/lib/vlc /usr/bin/X11/vlc /usr/share/vlc /usr/share/man/man1/vlc.1.gz
[11:57] <scanwinder> When i give it /usr/src/linux/include, it says its not an existing directory and if i give it /usr/include it says its for the wrong kernel version
[11:58] <kevix> odie5533, under 'places' do you have cd/dvd creator (on nautilis)
[11:58] <kevix> Xitium, the 'executable' file contains /bin/ or /sbin/ .
[11:59] <Xitium> thanks
[11:59] <odie5533> kevix: I do
[12:00] <kevix> odie5533, if you go to that, it will have a menu option, 'file' -> write to disk. this should has where your cd writer is.
[12:01] <odie5533> It does, but when I am in the disc writer it doesnt have the cd as an option, only file image
[12:01] <stewski> hi anyone know any easy way to drop breezy back to no GUI?
[12:02] <deeLer> i've installed xorg and xdm .... when xdm runs, screen goes black and returns to console .... startx works and launches windowmaker .... what's wrong ?
[12:02] <stewski> when I kill gdm it never gets back to command
[12:02] <kevix> stewski, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[12:02] <stewski> Ill give it a go cheers kevix
[12:07] <Proximus> hi, does anyone know what i have to install in order for the vi text editor to start colour coding my C programs? thanks
[12:07] <robotgeek> Proximus: syn on
[12:08] <kevix> Proximus, you do that at the ':' prompt (or you can add it to vimrc -- dont recall the exact way)
[12:08] <robotgeek> Proximus: colon command, :syn on
[12:09] <Proximus> hmm ok, thanks :)
[12:09] <robotgeek> Proximus: or in your .vimrc, set syntax on
[12:09] <adriyel> ubotu tell Mabus06 about nvidia
[12:09] <Proximus> do you need to install any extra packages?
[12:09] <emilq> mencoder do not record sound what can be wrong?
[12:09] <robotgeek> Proximus: nope
[12:10] <emilq> i hear sound
[12:10] <Proximus> thanks a lot, it worked ;)
[12:10] <kevix> Proximus, it also works for bash, perl and others...
[12:11] <robotgeek> Proximus: basically, any language u have a syntax file for
[12:11] <stewski> nop kevix that does the same as killing the gdm process
[12:11] <kevix> deeLer, maybe try to install 'gdm' and see if that helps.
[12:12] <stewski> on breezy theres a new start process/output
[12:12] <Proximus> i c, great... i m still a newbie, had no idea about that
[12:12] <stewski> and killing gdm drops me back to that not to a command line login
[12:12] <kevix> stewski, you can go to the console with 'control-alt-f1'.
[12:13] <robotgeek> Proximus: have u gone thru vimtutor?
[12:14] <Proximus> hmm nopes.... cos i started a course on C programming for Unix Systems and i m relatively new to Unix/Linux
[12:14] <robotgeek> Proximus: hmm, go thru that and the html manual at http://vimdoc.sf.net. Plus, if u are a fan of RSS feeds, i would suggest the vimtips rss feed :)
[12:14] <kevix> Proximus, as robotgeek said, learn vim with vimtutor will save you time in the long run.
[12:15] <Proximus> wicked... thanks for the tip, i never knew about this stuff
[12:16] <robotgeek> Proximus: of course, the text version can be accessed by doing a :help or :h
[12:16] <kevix> Proximus, and what ever you do: beware emacs! hehe
[12:17] <stewski> cheers kevix thats the ticket
[12:17] <stewski> its been a while since Ive used a systemV type OS
[12:17] <robotgeek> i guess it's alrite for us to talk about such stuff since it's so slowww
[12:18] <stewski> how do you get back to the desktop when you've moved away to a virtual terminal again?
[12:18] <robotgeek> stewski: ctl + alt + f7
[12:18] <kevix> stewski, well gnu/linux is a leap forward for usabiltiy!
[12:18] <Proximus> i c
[12:18] <Proximus> lol... how come?
[12:18] <stewski> yeah Im V impressed
[12:18] <odie5533> does vim do any syntax highlighting?
[12:18] <robotgeek> Proximus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor_wars
[12:18] <suresh00> i upgraded from hoary to breezy
[12:19] <suresh00> and my firefox broken
[12:19] <stewski> each release seems to be getting closer to a user friendly environment and the edubuntu stuffs promising too
[12:19] <kevix> stewski, I just use 'alt-left arrow' or 'alt-right arrow' until I hit vt1 or vt7
[12:19] <Proximus> ohh i c :)
[12:19] <robotgeek> odie5533: yeah, just put 'set syntax on' in your ~/.vimrc
[12:19] <Mabus06> man, ubuntu and nvidia just plain don't get along
[12:19] <stewski> its flooding back, not been using nix since SCO Openserver *spits*
[12:19] <robotgeek> kevix: you are talking about virtual desktops or virtual terms?
[12:20] <suresh00> i ran firefox as root first and it disabled all my previous extentions and then ran as normal user, it works
[12:20] <odie5533> robotgeek, unknown option on
[12:20] <stewski> Mabus06 Im running Nforce2 OK whats the probs?
[12:20] <robotgeek> odie5533: it's just 'syntax on'
[12:21] <kevix> robotgeek, vt
[12:21] <robotgeek> kevix: i do that with my desktops
[12:21] <Mabus06> ALways freezes at starting hotplug subsystem, stewski
[12:22] <kevix> robotgeek, in gnome(metacity) I use ctrl-alt-arrow but on the vt, I use alt-arrow
[12:22] <suresh00> how to set my locale fonts
[12:22] <suresh00> ?
[12:22] <Proximus> anyways thanks to all for your help, i learnt quite a bit in 5 minutes :), cya another time
[12:22] <kevix> suresh00, 1) set locale 2) install fonts  that are 2 differnt things.
[12:22] <JustSteve> Is there a way to determine what driver or module II'm using for my network card? I can't seem to find it listed in lsmod
[12:22] <robotgeek> kevix: same here, but i use apple+<1> <2> and apple + arrow keys
[12:22] <stewski> Mabus06 what makes you suspect Nvidia for freeze on hotplug?
[12:23] <robotgeek> JustSteve: do a 'lspci | less'
[12:23] <Mabus06> using onboard video doesn't freeze
[12:23] <kevix> robotgeek, ok. ppc!
[12:23] <robotgeek> kevix: yeah, ppc. :)
[12:23] <JustSteve> thanks will try
[12:24] <kevix> robotgeek, it sad to steve go to mac-tel!
[12:24] <suresh00> kevix, i've installed multiple fonts for my language and how do I choose to use a specific font?
[12:24] <robotgeek> JustSteve: though if the modules has been loaded, it should show up with lsmod
[12:24] <stewski> which onboard video?
[12:24] <robotgeek> kevix: don't really care. I run linux now
[12:24] <Mabus06> the one.... on my motherboard?
[12:24] <Mabus06> what do you mean?
[12:24] <JustSteve> robotgeek, i dunno it wasn't before, but with $ lsmod | less it's right at the top
[12:24] <stewski> are you using specific drivers for your onboard then switching to an nvidia card?
[12:25] <robotgeek> JustSteve: it must have scrolled over :)
[12:25] <kevix> suresh00, what language do you need?
[12:25] <dooglus> is there an equivalent of ext2's 'filefrag' for reiserfs?
[12:25] <JustSteve> boggles the mind. i figured it was sk98lin, just not sure
[12:25] <Mabus06> I was using the onboard
[12:25] <JustSteve> oh well. cheers all thanks for quick reponse
[12:25] <Mabus06> used it to install nvidia drivers
[12:25] <Mabus06> still freezes at same spot
[12:25] <kevix> dooglus, I didnt think you needed to do that?
[12:26] <dooglus> kevix: 'filefrag' shows you how fragmented a file is.
[12:26] <dooglus> kevix: it's a way of checking whether you need to defrag or not
[12:26] <stewski> can you boot single user (recovery mode) with the nvidia card in?
[12:27] <suresh00> kevix, tamil
[12:27] <dooglus> kevix: but it doesn't work on reiserfs filesystems
[12:27] <Mabus06> how do I do that stewski?
[12:27] <kevix> dooglus, maybe its me, but I've never heard of folks doing that.
[12:27] <Mabus06> (this is my first time using linux)
[12:27] <robotgeek> suresh00: hey, tamil here too :)
[12:27] <stewski> at boot you should get options of which OS and kernel to boot (grub)
[12:27] <suresh00> robotgeek, cool
[12:28] <kevix> suresh00, here is a place to go: http://www.planet-india.randomink.org/
[12:28] <Mabus06> nope, stewski
[12:28] <Mabus06> tehre are no options, it just goes to boot screen
[12:28] <Mabus06> where it freezes
[12:28] <kevix> suresh00, someone there will surely know. but not me!
[12:28] <Mabus06> I have no chance to change anything except for before the boot screen, in teh bios
[12:28] <suresh00> kevix, np, thanks
[12:28] <stewski> Odd Mab which version of ubuntu have you installed?
[12:29] <kevix> robotgeek, you have tamil? cool!
[12:29] <Mabus06> new one
[12:29] <Mabus06> breezy
[12:29] <robotgeek> kevix: nope, i am a tamil
[12:29] <fasted> so if I disable agp I have glxgears improvments!! how can that be??
[12:30] <stewski> Kevix does breezy default give you recovery mode (ingle user) boot option in grub (I did an upgrade)
[12:30] <fasted> also on breezy...
[12:30] <kevix> robotgeek, ok. checkout that link. it's indian gnu/linux folks.
[12:30] <robotgeek> kevix: ty
[12:31] <stewski> Mabus did you disable onbaord video in your BIOS?
[12:32] <Mabus06> yes
[12:32] <kevix> stewski, that only thing I know is that grub you can 'esc' to edit mode and add 'single' to boot options I dont have ubuntu infront of me.
[12:32] <stewski> OK mate
[12:32] <Mabus06> freezes at hotplug
[12:32] <stewski> OK 2 suggestions mab
[12:33] <stewski> 1. try removing everything not required for basic boot hardware wise (to prove not a conflict)
[12:33] <stewski> so just video hdd keyboard
[12:33] <Mabus06> tried that yesterday
[12:33] <stewski> OK
[12:33] <Mabus06> tried a million things with a bunch of people helping me
[12:33] <stewski> check up on grub
[12:34] <Mabus06> nothing worked, until I made it use onboard video instead of geforce
[12:34] <Mabus06> check up on grub?
[12:34] <frans-th> anyone can help me replace gij in breezy with sun java sdk?
[12:34] <Mabus06> don't underestimate my noobness ;-)
[12:34] <stewski> thats the boot loader that alows single user non GUI recovery mode
[12:34] <Mabus06> i don't know what you're talking about, sorry
[12:35] <robotgeek> frans-th: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:35] <robotgeek> frans-th: sorry, i need coffee
[12:35] <stewski> /boot/grub/menu.lst <--- contains possible boot options
[12:35] <frans-th> robotgeek: i cannot remove gij, right now i delete the java file in /usr/bin
[12:36] <robotgeek> frans-th: try sudo update-alternatives --config java-sdk , though i am not sure if it works
[12:36] <Mabus06> permission denied
[12:36] <stewski> sudo
[12:36] <Mabus06> command not found
[12:36] <frans-th> robotgeek: there is no sun java sdk, only  gij and java-gcj
[12:36] <stewski> try sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:37] <frans-th> robotgeek: no alternative for java-sdk
[12:37] <stewski> should how you a list of possible options
[12:37] <Mabus06> gtwk-warning cannot open display
[12:37] <stewski> show
[12:37] <Mabus06> gtk*
[12:37] <robotgeek> frans-th: if you want to use the sun java runtime, do --config java. not sure about anything else
[12:37] <stewski> OK are you talking to me on a broken system mab?
[12:38] <stewski> because gedit is simply the text editor in gnome?
[12:38] <Mabus06> I'm trying to get help
[12:38] <frans-th> robotgeek, cannot :( but thx i will find out how to add the java config in there, only gij and gcj there
[12:38] <Mabus06> Wouldn't lie to ya lol
[12:38] <robotgeek> frans-th: ah, ok
[12:38] <stewski> lol
[12:38] <Mabus06> But I'm talking to you on an XP machine
[12:38] <Mabus06> right next to my linux one
[12:38] <Mabus06> not dual boot
[12:39] <Mabus06> could you tell me how to restore my xserver to a backup I saved?
[12:39] <stewski> yeah but what Im saying is, is the machine youre trying to install an nvidia card on seriously messed already?
[12:39] <Mabus06> yes, but it was not before
[12:39] <stewski> as you say you cant open gedit on it?
[12:40] <Mabus06> I messed it up since then
[12:40] <Mabus06> I was using the gui before, internet and everything
[12:40] <Mabus06> working just fine
[12:40] <Mabus06> messed with the xserver settings trying to make it work for geforce
[12:40] <Mabus06> and thats probably what is making it so bad now
[12:40] <stewski> how much stuff has it got on it, can you do a clean reinstall of 5.10 with the Nvidia card in place?
[12:40] <Mabus06> Oh no, it was freshly installed yesterday on a newly formatted drive, I don't really have much to save
[12:41] <Mabus06> but I assure you, clean install with nvidia enabled WILL freeze at hotplug
[12:41] <stewski> during the install process?
[12:41] <stewski> or on first boot
[12:41] <Mabus06> before the second phase or whatever of the install process
[12:41] <stewski> I get you
[12:41] <stewski> first time you try to load X
[12:42] <Mabus06> yes
[12:42] <Mabus06> I just finished burning off fedora... should I try to use that distro instead of this one?
[12:42] <Mabus06> I know, I know, you'll all tell me fedora is worse.
[12:43] <Mabus06> But I will use windows 95 if its the only thing that my geforce will run on... the svideo component is the main use of my computer
[12:43] <onkarshinde> I am trying to run Project Looking Glass on Linux. I have to take current X down before running it in session mode. How can I configure it so as to choose it from session options at graphical login?
[12:43] <kevix> Mabus06, have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[12:43] <stewski> how old is your geforce?
[12:44] <Mabus06> yes, I think thats what changed my not working with geforce setup, to just plain not working, kevix
[12:44] <stewski> kevix hes saying when he boots with the new hardware it locks
[12:44] <Mabus06> um, I don't know how old
[12:44] <robotgeek> onkarshinde: create a session file in /etc/gdm/sessions . that way it shows up in your gdm login
[12:44] <Mabus06> GeForce FX5500
[12:44] <Mabus06> Hi, aftertaf
[12:45] <kevix> stewski, is he using a nv or nvidia driver.
[12:45] <Mabus06> tried with both kevix
[12:45] <stewski> I dont think he'll know, Mab vim /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:45] <kevix> Mabus06, both locked your machine?
[12:45] <Mabus06> yes
[12:45] <ulle> how do I run Java programs in Breezy
[12:45] <Mabus06> well no
[12:45] <Mabus06> I can install drivers just fine
[12:45] <Linuxdogmatiker> hello, where can i get unofficial ubuntu packages?
[12:45] <onkarshinde> robotgeek: I did. I used gnome.desktop from /etc/gdm/xsessions as template. But it doesn't show. Also please note that project looking glass needs that an X server is not running already.
[12:45] <kevix> Mabus06, did you try the 'vesa' (plain) driver?
[12:46] <Mabus06> it's when I go to the bios and switch to the geforce that causes it to freeze on hotplug
[12:46] <dducko> !repos
[12:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:46] <Mabus06> kevix yes, I can run ubuntu just fine using the regular driver
[12:46] <robotgeek> onkarshinde: yeah, but did you restart gdm with a 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' ?
[12:46] <stewski> it would be good if mab could try to boot without X (single user) to show what it is thats causing the hang
[12:46] <Mabus06> But not using my geforce is unacceptable
[12:46] <kevix> Mabus06, so do you NEED the other drivers or can you live with the vesa ones?
[12:46] <propagandhi> ulle: read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:46] <Mabus06> NEED
[12:47] <Mabus06> I didn't spend all this money to watch downloaded tv episodes on my TV
[12:47] <Mabus06> to not do so
[12:47] <stewski> Mab can you boot with the geforce as your video source using a vesa driver?
[12:47] <onkarshinde> robotgeek: I restarted my machine. O:-)
[12:47] <Mabus06> I assume that's what it tried to do the first time, stewski, so no
[12:47] <Mabus06> because it froze before I had a chance to install drivers the first time
[12:48] <Mabus06> if I use the onboard I can go into linux, install drivers
[12:48] <stewski> no Mab you said you installed the Nvid driver when using the onboard?
[12:48] <kevix> !module-assistant
[12:48] <ubotu> kevix: No idea
[12:48] <Mabus06> but then again, stalls on hotplug
[12:48] <Mabus06> Tried many things, stewski
[12:48] <stewski> OK so before you install Nvidi drivers but when the bios has the Gforce installed it hangs
[12:48] <stewski> sounds hardware to me.
[12:49] <kevix> does anybody know which repository contains 'module-assistant'?
[12:49] <aftertaf> stewski:  borked card?
[12:49] <Mabus06> But I was using the full functionality of it on windows.
[12:49] <robotgeek> onkarshinde: okay, do this. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3690 is the stuff u need to put in /etc/gdm/Sessions
[12:49] <doojin> hi
[12:49] <aftertaf> kevix:  universe/misc
[12:49] <stewski> in the same system with same bios settings?
[12:49] <doojin> What is Live CD of ubuntu?
[12:49] <kevix> aftertaf, tanks.
[12:49] <Mabus06> Yes, stewski
[12:50] <doojin> Is it like winlinux?
[12:50] <aftertaf>  ;) /msg ubotu info module-assistant
[12:50] <robotgeek> onkarshinde: btw, did you make the file executable with a chmod +x <file> ?
[12:50] <Mabus06> Using windows.
[12:50] <stewski> OK
[12:50] <doojin> Mabus06 : what is live cd?
[12:50] <Mabus06> See before I knew it was a problem I didn't bother with it.
[12:50] <kevix> !info module-assistant
[12:50] <ubotu> module-assistant: (tool to make module package creation easier), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 0.9.5ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 69 kB, Installed size: 364 kB
[12:50] <onkarshinde> robotgeek: Which file?
[12:50] <Mabus06> Live CD is the same thing as regular except it doesnt install on the HD
[12:50] <kbrooks> doojin: it does not use windows
[12:50] <doojin> on the hd?
[12:50] <kevix> aftertaf, thanks again.
[12:50] <Mabus06> Although I'm the worst person to ask questions, here. I'm the one asking them.
[12:51] <kbrooks> dooglus: hard drive
[12:51] <doojin> Mabus06 : where does it install?
[12:51] <kevix> Mabus06, 'module-assistant' may help you.
[12:51] <Mabus06> It doesn't I dont think?
[12:51] <Mabus06> You need the CD every boot.
[12:51] <stewski> it runs in a ramdisk (so all from memory)
[12:51] <kbrooks> doojin: you misread
[12:51] <doojin> hahaha
[12:51] <kbrooks> Mabus06: context please'
[12:51] <robotgeek> onkarshinde: for a 'session' to show up in the gdm login screen, you need to put the file in /etc/gdm/Sessions/<file with session name> <- this file needs to be executable.
[12:51] <doojin> I understand now
[12:51] <kbrooks> Mabus06: 'live'
[12:52] <Mabus06> What?
[12:52] <doojin> I can directly boot into linux with cd
[12:52] <kbrooks> Mabus06: you missed that word
[12:52] <Mabus06> Yes, doojin
[12:52] <Mabus06> No I didn't...
[12:52] <Mabus06> We're talking about live....
[12:52] <kbrooks> Mabus06: "the CD"
[12:52] <doojin> mabus06 : do you know how to perform floppy disk installation?
[12:52] <Hajuu> Hey whats up.. Anyone help me with my dvd playing woes?
[12:53] <dooglus> kbrooks: RS232 Interface
[12:53] <doojin> I want to use ftp to download linux
[12:53] <Mabus06> No! stop asking me questions, I've been using linux for less than a day. lol
[12:53] <robotgeek> onkarshinde: the stuff to put in there is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3691
[12:53] <Mabus06> Don't bother with live, doojin.
[12:53] <Mabus06> Get the other one.
[12:53] <Mabus06> the regular one.
[12:53] <kbrooks> Mabus06: please
[12:53] <Mabus06> please what?
[12:53] <Mabus06> I don't know what you're talking about kbrooks
[12:53] <doojin> kbrooks : I want to boot with a floppy and install linux through ftp... can I install ubuntu with that method?
[12:54] <kbrooks> Mabus06: u do know the livecd can be used for testing out ubuntu
[12:54] <mini> why can't i use web-cp?
[12:54] <kbrooks> dooglus: Why?
[12:54] <Mabus06> Yes, kbrooks
[12:54] <kbrooks> doojin: why?
[12:54] <stewski> what are people using for DVD play back?
[12:54] <mini> who knows anything about web-cp?
[12:54] <doojin> I want ftp-download install
[12:54] <Mabus06> That's what I was telling him.
[12:54] <kbrooks> dooglus: srry
[12:54] <doojin> I can't burn a cd
[12:54] <Mabus06> Good reason...
[12:54] <propagandhi> isnt there a dvd that has live and install
[12:54] <kbrooks> doojin: no need
[12:54] <dooglus> kbrooks: because you told me "hard drive".  aren't we playing the "name random pieces of computer kit" game?  I can't think why else you would answer "hard drive" to my question about "filefrag".
[12:55] <robotgeek> doojin: you want to install over the internet, is that it? i think there are netboot install on the wiki
[12:55] <kbrooks> dooglus: i said
[12:55] <Hajuu> So um... SOME of my dvds play... But no commercial ones... EVERY dvd player crashes with them.. XINE says something about Nav packets and stops playing just before it reaches the menu... any ideas?
[12:55] <kbrooks> "hd" = "hard drive"
[12:55] <doojin> robotgeek : let's talk privately
[12:55] <robotgeek> Hajuu: do u have libdvdcss2 installed?
[12:55] <onkarshinde> robotgeek: thanks.
[12:55] <kbrooks> dooglus: ^ indirectly
[12:55] <NutterUk> hello im trying to add an application using Add Application, but when I apply what I want its not adding it. Any ideas?
[12:55] <robotgeek> onkarshinde: cool
[12:55] <Hajuu> Yeah I just installed that.. Still the same problem.. Company logo thing plays, but crashes at the menu
[12:56] <Hajuu> Wouldn't have to restart for that would I?
[12:56] <doojin> robotgeek : see my message
[12:56] <dooglus> kbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:56] <NutterUk> hello im trying to add an application using Add Application, but when I apply what I want its not adding it. Any ideas?
[12:56] <kevix> Mabus06, check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7448.html
[12:57] <wickedpuppy> NutterUk, which application you wish to add ?
[12:57] <NutterUk> artmanager
[12:57] <robotgeek> Hajuu: no, try ogle for dvd's. i thin it might be the menu's which are crashing it, nt sure
[12:57] <wickedpuppy> is it opensource or commercial ?
[12:57] <onkarshinde> robotgeek: Can't try now. At office. Will have to try at home. Will let you know tomorrow.
[12:57] <Hajuu> Tried ogle too
[12:58] <Hajuu> Same result
[12:58] <Hajuu> :(
[12:58] <wickedpuppy> i say its commercial... it should come with its own installer NutterUk
[12:59] <NutterUk> wickedpuppy how do i get it?
[12:59] <stewski> kevix Mabus06 was saying his sytem hangs regardless of driver?
[12:59] <wickedpuppy> NutterUk, get what ?
[12:59] <NutterUk> the installer
[12:59] <robotgeek> onkarshinde: ty, it should work though. it works for me :)
[01:00] <wickedpuppy> NutterUk, i said it should come with it ... you have it dude
[01:00] <stewski> Mab can you boot your lin box and press escape just as the bios post screen finishes?
[01:00] <onkarshinde> robotgeek: Have you tried it with Project Lokking Glass?
[01:00] <stewski> you should be able to catch the boot loader and go into edit mode
[01:00] <NutterUk> oh right but its not selected in the Add Applications section
[01:00] <robotgeek> onkarshinde: want to , but am not going to do it. my machine is pretty slow
[01:00] <wickedpuppy> NutterUk, really .. you are not thinking ... whats the file extension of the software you got ?
[01:01] <onkarshinde> robotgeek: will be back in some time.
[01:01] <NutterUk> wickedpuppy what do you mean? Sorry only installed linux today
[01:01] <robotgeek> onkarshinde: looked at the screenies, pretty neat.
[01:02] <wickedpuppy> NutterUk, ah k .. so you are newb .. its ok .. i was once too
[01:02] <kevix> stewski, he also says, windows - no prob. so either its bios, driver or hw? any guess?
[01:02] <NutterUk> wickedpuppy thanks :)
[01:02] <wickedpuppy> NutterUk, the software ... what is the file extension ? .exe .bin .???
[01:02] <wickedpuppy> NutterUk, its alright ... even linus was a newbie once lol
[01:03] <kevix> wickedpuppy, I say something but its a windows program.
[01:03] <NutterUk> wickedpuppy not sure because im just using the program Add Applications and it lists programs you can add. There is a program that I would like in it so I just ticked it and pressed apply
[01:03] <viller> i have problems with breezy's repos again, i had to reinstall ubuntu because ubuntu doesn't work
[01:03] <wickedpuppy> oh hmms ... see artmanager is a windows program NutterUk ?
[01:03] <viller> how to let the bot tell me about it?
[01:03] <stewski> yeah tis odd kev, Id like to hear the results of a single user NO X boot to see if it is hardware conflict
[01:04] <NutterUk> wickedpuppy - it has it in my ubuntu Add Applications
[01:04] <kevix> wickedpuppy, www.artmanager.com is what I saw.
[01:04] <emilq> is it possible turn off alsa in ubuntu and using oss only?
[01:04] <viller> how to let the bot tell me about extra repositories in breezy???????
[01:05] <kevor> Can't play this dvd, get error i don't have libdvdcss
[01:05] <kevix> stewski, but then he's have to start X manually.
[01:05] <NutterUk> art manager is just a program that you install gnome themes easier
[01:05] <kevor> but can't seem to find it in Apt-get
[01:05] <Hajuu> kevor: So install it :)
[01:05] <wickedpuppy> NutterUk, forget that add program things ... thats windows
[01:05] <Hajuu> apt-get install libdvdcss2
[01:05] <viller> how to let the bot tell me about extra repositories in breezy?????
[01:05] <wickedpuppy> NutterUk, may i know where you get the artmanager from ?
[01:05] <wickedpuppy> thanks for info kevix
[01:05] <robotgeek> !tell kevor about mp3
[01:05] <wickedpuppy> !repositories
[01:05] <ubotu> sources is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[01:06] <wickedpuppy> there you go viller
[01:06] <NutterUk> wickedpuppy from my applications menu
[01:06] <kevix> wickedpuppy, it seems I was thinking of a diff. prob.
[01:06] <robotgeek> kevor: read that link
[01:06] <NutterUk> im using linux not windows
[01:06] <kevor> ok
[01:06] <kevor> thanks
[01:07] <wickedpuppy> NutterUk, you got artmanager in your menu ? are you using ubuntu ? if so where is it ? can be more specific ?
[01:07] <dreumah> hi
[01:07] <dreumah> i just upgraded my hoary to breezy
[01:08] <Mabus06> anyone know how to restore my xorg.conf to a backup I made?
[01:08] <dreumah> and was wondering where i can get win32 codecs and those to play dvd
[01:08] <wickedpuppy> NutterUk, ah i see
[01:08] <NutterUk> wickedpuppy Yes i'm using ubuntu. I clicked applications at the top, then clicked Add Application. Went to the graphics section. The more programs. And there is a program called art manager that it will download if you tick it then click apply
[01:08] <wickedpuppy> so you ticked on that ?
[01:08] <stewski> just copy the back up over the current Mabus06
[01:08] <NutterUk> yes
[01:09] <Mabus06> easier said than done to a noob stewski
[01:09] <wickedpuppy> alright .. now go to terminal and type artmana then press tab
[01:09] <Mabus06> what is the syntax, please?
[01:09] <wickedpuppy> see if you get artmanager
[01:09] <wickedpuppy> oh and i suggest you use synaptic instead ...
[01:09] <NutterUk> wickedpuppy nope nothing just beeped
[01:09] <stewski> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:10] <wickedpuppy> oh hell ... let me install it myself
[01:10] <wickedpuppy> hold on
[01:10] <Mabus06> you sure stewski?
[01:10] <NutterUk> wickedpuppy thanks
[01:10] <Mabus06> that doesn't take into account what my backup is
[01:10] <stewski> but never trust advice straight from the net without doing
[01:10] <viller> wicedpuppy: it doesn't work
[01:10] <wickedpuppy> give me 10 min ... in mean time  .. enable your universe and multiverse ... and check out synaptic
[01:10] <stewski> man cp
[01:10] <stewski> or man "command"
[01:10] <Mabus06> stewski, I am completely new at this
[01:10] <Mabus06> don't assume I know things
[01:10] <stewski> to get an idea of what you're doing
[01:10] <Hajuu> Hi Im having problems playing some dvds... SOME of my dvds play... But no commercial ones (ones imported from bali do)... EVERY dvd player crashes with them.. XINE says something about Nav packets and stops playing just before it reaches the menu... Ogle does the same (cept without the Nav packet error)... VLC does its usual, hey screw you im just not going to play or say anything... etc etc
[01:11] <Nick_Hill> !ralink
[01:11] <bimberi> Mabus06: what is your backup?
[01:11] <wickedpuppy> NutterUk, you did click apply ... right ?
[01:11] <kevix> NutterUk, here is it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66227
[01:11] <NutterUk> wickedpuppy universal and multiverse? I'm a linux dummy
[01:11] <viller> i had to reinstall ubuntu because its a piece of crap that doesn't work and now i can't get the fucking repos to work again
[01:11] <NutterUk> yes i did
[01:11] <stewski> Mab theres no assumption, Ive given you the command line
[01:11] <wickedpuppy> NutterUk, i pm you ?
[01:11] <kevix> NutterUk, here is it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66227
[01:11] <Nick_Hill> @ralink
[01:11] <NutterUk> yes please
[01:11] <NutterUk> thanks kevix
[01:11] <stewski> but always learn as you go, using man pages is very useful
[01:11] <Mabus06> your command line doesnt take into consideration what my backup is, so it can't be that
[01:11] <stewski> lmao
[01:12] <stewski> Mab I cant read your mind
[01:12] <Mabus06> I know but you could have put something like backupname
[01:12] <kevix> Mabus06, the config of /etc/X11/xorg.conf is not that hard to 'back up'.
[01:12] <propagandhi> Mab: but i can and you're thinking about beer
[01:12] <stewski> lol mmmmmm beer
[01:12] <kevix> !beer
[01:12] <ubotu> Wish i knew, kevix
[01:13] <kevix> !info beer
[01:13] <Mabus06> How do I get from black screen with cursor to login screen again?
[01:13] <Mabus06> it was like f1 or something...
[01:13] <bimberi> Mabus06: <ctrl><alt>F7
[01:13] <Nick_Hill> Who maintains ubotu?
[01:13] <propagandhi> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/beer-faq/part3/index.html
[01:14] <Mabus06> didnt work bimberi
[01:14] <kevix> Mabus06, ctrl-alt-f7 goes to X, ctrl-alt-f1 to console.
[01:14] <Nick_Hill> Or rather, how do we make Ubotu print factoids into the channel?
[01:14] <Mabus06> neither do anything for me kevix
[01:14] <kevix> Mabus06, they work only if X is running.
[01:14] <Mabus06> x is not running properly, that's what I'm trying to fix
[01:14] <Nick_Hill> !hoary
[01:14] <ubotu> methinks hoary is a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[01:14] <robotgeek> !factoid
[01:14] <ubotu> A list of all my factoids can be found at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au
[01:15] <aftertaf> Mabus06:  on bot, just when console mode disappears for when X starts to run, hit CTL ALT F1
[01:15] <viller> ok, i fixed the fucking shit
[01:15] <stewski> I still ay mab the thing you need is to prove that a single user recovery mode boot works
[01:15] <robotgeek> viller: language
[01:15] <StrikeForce> Can someone help me out with my mail server setup?
[01:15] <Mabus06> I'm giving up on geforce for now  stewski
[01:15] <bimberi> nick58b: cafuego
[01:15] <StrikeForce> I'm losing emails for some wierd reason
[01:16] <Mabus06> single user recovery mode boot works makes no sense to me anyway
[01:16] <bimberi> Nick_Hill: cafuego (sry nick58b)
[01:16] <Mabus06> just a string of words I don't understand
[01:16] <viller> robotgeeks: sorry but you don't know how angry i am on ubuntu right now
[01:16] <stewski> youusesafeemodeiwidows?
[01:16] <robotgeek> viller: what is the prob?
[01:16] <Nick_Hill> bimberi, Thanks. Ubotu appears to be printing factoids into channel now.
[01:16] <stewski> remoteekeoarddlowbatteryy
[01:16] <propagandhi> viller: ubuntu is angry at you
[01:17] <Mabus06> so what is the syntax to replace my backup to /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[01:17] <Mabus06> from
[01:17] <Mabus06> rather
[01:17] <bimberi> Nick_Hill: k :)
[01:17] <viller> robotgeek: i fixed it allready, the problem was that x didn't start, i reinstalled ubuntu, but then the repositories didn't work again, i allways have that problem, now everything's ok
[01:18] <Mabus06> I know, it's probably some simple command. But I don't want to do something stupid like lose my backup.
[01:18] <kevix> Mabus06, to make a backup just 'cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[01:18] <Mabus06> no!
[01:18] <Mabus06> I have the backup already.
[01:18] <Mabus06> I want to restore it.
[01:18] <Mabus06> the backup file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[01:18] <bimberi> Mabus06: to restore the backup "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:18] <kevix> Mabus06, to restore 'cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/x11/xorg.conf'
[01:19] <Mabus06> okay, thanks
[01:19] <stewski> Mab for your understanding
[01:19] <Mabus06> both of you
[01:19] <Mabus06> lol
[01:19] <kevix> go to go, see ya in 20 hours.
[01:19] <stewski> sudo (stands for super user do) is like run as administrator on windows
[01:19] <stewski> cp is copy
[01:19] <cafuego> !test
[01:19] <ubotu> Failed.
[01:19] <rod> heja
[01:19] <cafuego> bot's fine
[01:19] <Mabus06> I read the wiki article on sudo
[01:20] <robotgeek> www.linuxcommand.org
[01:20] <stewski> you are simply copying one file over the top of another
[01:20] <Mabus06> and I know cp is copy
[01:20] <Mabus06> yes but stewski
[01:20] <stewski> then when X restarts it will read the file named /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:20] <Mabus06> I would have felt pretty stupid if I mixed up the backup and crapped out xorg.conf... and ended up writing over my backup
[01:21] <stewski> hence man cp
[01:21] <viller> ubuntu people talk about contributing in developing ubuntu, do they take everyone who wants to do something? this would end-up in bad quality
[01:21] <Mabus06> Hence my want for exact syntax from someone who knows what they're doing
[01:21] <stewski> man cp hows the syntax of the command
[01:21] <stewski> Im not having a go Im saying dont always trust in just a friendly user
[01:21] <stewski> your understanding is good
[01:21] <robotgeek> viller: i dont code much. i spend my time here
[01:22] <stewski> all you needed to know was wich was around the copy comand works
[01:22] <stewski> cp sourceFile destinationFile
[01:22] <viller> i'd like to contribute in art, but i'm not sure i can
[01:22] <kresten> Hi there! Im having troubles mounting my USB cdrom. I get this message "mount: /dev/scd0 is not a block device" anyone got clue what it means and what I should do? It worked fine back in warty...
[01:22] <viller> i've done a few backgrounds allready
[01:23] <robotgeek> viller: maybe you can make icon sets/ wallpapers
[01:23] <viller> but not "officialy"
[01:23] <viller> robotgeek: that would be really fun
[01:23] <robotgeek> viller: have u put them up at art.ubuntu.com
[01:24] <Mabus06> other criticisms of fedora aside
[01:24] <Mabus06> how likley is it that I'd have less problems with my geforce using it?
[01:24] <viller> robotgeek: yes
[01:24] <viller> robotgeek: my username there is commodore
[01:25] <brownie17> i am having some file permission errors, will someone help me? i have a file name "Warcraft III" and i want to get permissions, but chmod -rw won't work because it tries to treat Warcraft and III as two different files.
[01:25] <robotgeek> viller: neat,
[01:25] <koala_man> brownie17: quote it
[01:25] <bimberi> brownie17: put double quotes around the filename
[01:25] <stewski> Hard to say Mabus06, you say you cant boot with vesa drivers and the geforce on ubuntu sound pretty fundamental to me
[01:25] <poningru> oooh I just found out what alt+z does
[01:25] <viller> robotgeek: i can do 2d too
[01:25] <poningru> on xchat
[01:26] <brownie17> koala_man, i tried single, thankyou
[01:26] <viller> i don't know how to join ubuntu-art mailing list
[01:26] <Mabus06> but stewski, I can use the most advanced functions of geforce with windows
[01:26] <greedyb> hello all, can I take a couple momments of someones time and ask some questions like.... how do I get multi-verse in repositories?
[01:26] <Mabus06> and from googling, I see many other people who have nvidia/ubuntu problems
[01:26] <Seveas> !tell greedyb about repos
[01:26] <Mabus06> many the exact same problem
[01:26] <robotgeek> viller: http://art.ubuntu.com/contact.php
[01:26] <kresten> Hi there! Im having troubles mounting my USB cdrom. I get this message "mount: /dev/scd0 is not a block device". Has anyone got a clue what it means and what I should do? It worked fine back in warty...
[01:27] <koala_man> how would I change the on/off button on my laptop to hibernate rather than halt?
[01:27] <brownie17> bimberi, i just realised through ls that it's name in the terminal is different to it;s name when it is on the desktop!
[01:28] <stewski> but stewski, I can use the most advanced functions of geforce with windows <-- so you say mab, but linux detects its hardware different to windows
[01:29] <bimberi> brownie17: not quite with you sorry, were you able to chmod then?
[01:29] <brownie17> bimberi, i tried "sudo chmod -rw "Warcraft III.desktop" and it just gave no-one permissions to use it!!
[01:29] <greedyb> okay, how about what file do I need to paste this info to?  I know I could manually edit one by one but what file can I edit?
[01:29] <greedyb> Respositories file
[01:30] <bimberi> brownie17: yes, if that's what you want, +rw will do the opposite
[01:30] <brownie17> bimberi, oh ok
[01:30] <viller> robotgeek: the link you gave is all about gnome, not ubuntu
[01:30] <brownie17> bimberi, now it gave root permission, but still not me
[01:31] <bimberi> brownie17: er, yes, hang on
[01:31] <robotgeek> viller: that's all i know
[01:31] <linuxgeek2> ubuntu is cool
[01:31] <hador> hi...
[01:31] <greedyb> Seveas, so I need to copy and paste this stuff to a Repositories, what is that file?
[01:31] <viller> robotgeek: ok, thanks anyway
[01:32] <hador> where I find a config file for eth0 ?
[01:32] <bimberi> brownie17: try o+rw
[01:32] <linuxgeek2> Like the live CD does the hard disk install Ubuntu version have support for wireless devices
[01:32] <linuxgeek2> ?
[01:32] <wickedpuppy> of course ... ibm works with it ...
[01:32] <wickedpuppy> or lenova
[01:32] <wickedpuppy> same anyway
[01:32] <iiiears> Hello Seveas.
[01:32] <kresten> When trying to mount my cdrom I get this message "mount: /dev/scd0 is not a block device". Has anyone got a clue what it means and what I should do? It worked fine back in warty...
[01:33] <linuxgeek2> ok i have compaq
[01:33] <brownie17> bimberi, ok
[01:33] <bimberi> linuxgeek2: you can check here ...
[01:33] <bimberi> !wireless
[01:33] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:33] <linuxgeek2> I am actually on wireless
[01:33] <linuxgeek2> But I have a live cd versiob booted thro' cd
[01:33] <greedyb> Does anyone know where the Repositories file is?  Not the GUI version
[01:33] <brownie17> bimberi, yeah pretty good, but it still tells me i am not the owner, can i even change the ownership?
[01:34] <iiiears> Hey wickedpuppy you still here? Don't ya ever sleep? - lol - good to see you. - grin
[01:34] <bimberi> brownie17: sure "sudo chown <youruser> <file>"
[01:34] <wickedpuppy> iiiears, i am helping someone :P
[01:34] <wickedpuppy> good to see ya too dude
[01:34] <linuxgeek2> So If I install the proper hdd version of ubuntu then will it be the same support for drivers like in live cd
[01:35] <linuxgeek2> Redhat is crap did'nt even detect wireless devices
[01:35] <linuxgeek2> ubuntu is cool
[01:35] <brownie17> bimberi, ok. that is much easier then isn't it?
[01:35] <hador> hey.. help me ;P whare i find config file for eth0 ?
[01:35] <bimberi> brownie17: haha, yeah :)
[01:36] <iiiears> linuxgeek - aw c'mon RH is less painful than compiling netBSD. - erm okay only a little.
[01:36] <onkarshinde> hador: What exactly do you want to do?
[01:36] <pekka> how can i put windows as a default boot for my parents' computer?
[01:36] <robotgeek> hador: try /etc/network/interfaces
[01:36] <iiiears> pekka - check out ubotu
[01:36] <iiiears> !grub
[01:36] <ubotu> it has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:37] <hador> i want turn off an option that changing /etc/resolv.conf
[01:37] <onkarshinde> pekka: Edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file. There is a entry named default:
[01:37] <linuxgeek2> does the hdd install version install grub automatically and configure this
[01:37] <linuxgeek2> things
[01:37] <linuxgeek2> does the hdd install version install grub automatically and configure things
[01:37] <iiiears> iiiears happy to bail you out if you get into to any scrapes. - pretty easy step by step.
[01:38] <e-sin> i just used that Automatix app from ubuntuforums.org and now my session startup is blank, and when i add apps to it, they immediately disappear when i exit the session manager.  any idfeas?
[01:38] <onkarshinde> hador: May be you should try from GUI, System->Administration->Network
[01:38] <kresten> When trying to mount my cdrom I get this message "mount: /dev/scd0 is not a block device". Has anyone got a clue what it means and what I should do? It worked fine back in warty...
[01:38] <iiiears> onkarshinde - will he need to use sudo su gedit or gksudo gedit to edit the file?
[01:38] <viller> XD i just said thank you to nickserv
[01:38] <tewny> when i partition all my partitions during the breezy install what should i label primary and what should be extended partitions ?
[01:39] <onkarshinde> iiiears: sudo gedit filename
[01:39] <hador> ok tnx
[01:39] <andres_> hi all
[01:39] <bimberi> linuxgeek2: yes it does.  I've seen (in here) occasions where people say their wireless works in livecd and not install but it's pretty rare
[01:39] <onkarshinde> tewny: It won't matter if you install Ubuntu on primary or secondary.
[01:39] <linuxgeek2> bimberi, what du mean
[01:40] <linuxgeek2> do mean
[01:40] <viller> sudo handjob
[01:40] <viller> XD
[01:40] <e-sin> or even, where in the filesystem are the gnome startup programs listed so that i can try editing them manually?
[01:40] <linuxgeek2> So if I install the proper hard disk install will wireless run properly is my question
[01:40] <linuxgeek2> In the live cd is working perfecly
[01:40] <bimberi> linuxgeek2: i know, and my answer is "most likely but not definitely"
[01:40] <brownie17> e-sin, the update-rc.d
[01:41] <linuxgeek2> Ok to make it work what will I have to do ?
[01:41] <linuxgeek2> If it does'nt work
[01:41] <viller> is this channel for only asking help? can't people have just talk about ubuntu? where can i find ubuntu servers channels?
[01:42] <bimberi> linuxgeek2: check on that wiki page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:42] <brownie17> viller, to just chat /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:42] <onkarshinde> viller: This channel is for anything related to Ubuntu.
[01:42] <bimberi> linuxgeek2: or perhaps the forums if still unsure
[01:42] <linuxgeek2> k
[01:42] <brownie17> viller, mostly people use it for support, but just to chat about ubuntu is fine here too
[01:43] <brownie17> bob2, now i have updated to breezy, nautilus keeps "quitting unexpectedly"
[01:43] <viller> thank you! brownie17 and onkarshinde
[01:43] <kresten> When trying to mount my cdrom I get this message "mount: /dev/scd0 is not a block device". Has anyone got a clue what it means and what I should do? It worked fine back in warty...
[01:43] <MaTaKs> how can i install my driver on my webcam in ubuntu?
[01:43] <iiiears> viller - check out a "L.A.M.P." package prepared and ready to go linux apache mysql and php. ready to go some even have content management systems.
[01:44] <pekka> onkarshinde, in the default setting is windows NUM 3 ? I only have ubuntu and xp installed on this machine
[01:44] <pekka> i.e. should I put 3 in the place of 0?
[01:44] <brownie17> viller, haha unless you won't a 14 line automated response, don't thank onkarshinde!! but me on the otherhand, i soak it up!
[01:44] <viller> iiiears: i didn't understand a thing you said lol :P
[01:44] <Seveas> greedyb, /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:44] <iiiears> viller - no ned to struggle putting everything together. more time to be creative.
[01:44] <bimberi> !lamp
[01:44] <ubotu> I guess lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:45] <iiiears> viller - google L.A.M.P.
[01:45] <signius> Is anyone up for the challenge of me getting my GPS talking to my Laptop because i am out of ideas of how to do it
[01:45] <signius> It used to work under hoary
[01:45] <viller> iiiears: what does lamp do?
[01:45] <signius> the device is listed as ttyUSB0
[01:46] <tewny> what is the max number of XFS partitions you can have in a extended partition ?
[01:46] <signius> But i am not getting any data coming on on gpsdrive when is et the device to /dev/ttyUSB0
[01:46] <greedyb> thanks Seveas
[01:47] <signius> Is anyone else running GPSdrive with a gps unit attahced to a USB to Serial adaptor in breezy ?
[01:47] <iiiears> !gps
[01:47] <ubotu> iiiears: I don't know
[01:47] <iiiears> aw
[01:47] <PadrePio> hi all
[01:48] <PadrePio> i have a problem with vlc
[01:48] <signius> or is there any way for me to see if gpsd is recieveing any data at all from the gps unit ?
[01:48] <cpbs3167> hallo
[01:48] <a8514> Hi
[01:49] <viller> iiiears: why do i need lamp?
[01:49] <PadrePio> i cannot see udp streams but vlc creates traffic anyway
[01:49] <brownie17> signius, are you sure it is not a problem you need to ask your grps manufacturor about?
[01:49] <cpbs3167> wie kann man in cippool java programmieren?  ich kann einfach die ide nicht finden
[01:49] <aeon17x> !mplayer
[01:49] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:49] <signius> no because i had this gps unit with the same laptop and usb to serial adpater fully working under hoary
[01:50] <iiiears> viller - you don't - ubuntu server is wonderful and very secure. - i was thinking you might want php for dynamic content.
[01:50] <signius> its stopped working since i upgraded to breezy
[01:50] <brownie17> can anyone help me? i updated to breezy and now every two mins nautilus quits unexpectedly
[01:50] <brownie17> except now i am begining to expect it! :)
[01:50] <PadrePio> anybody?
[01:50] <e-sin> lol
[01:50] <andres_> i couldnt change the screen resolution
[01:50] <signius> I am seriously thinking abotu downgrading back to hoary
[01:50] <PadrePio> i cannot see udp streams but vlc creates traffic anyway
[01:51] <cpbs3167> can some1 help me?  how can i use java-jdk or ide in cip-pool?
[01:51] <brownie17> signius, same, breezy is giving me the shits as well, but it will be a pain to reinstall all my applications and setting again
[01:51] <cpbs3167> i cant find the java-ide......
[01:52] <signius> Personally i havnt noticed any advantages to upgrading to breezy and have had quite a couple of real important to me things broken in this release and things that i feel shouldnt have been broken
[01:52] <iiiears> andres_ - What are you seeing? - any error messages?
[01:52] <signius> I am starting to think this forced new releases every 6 months strategy maybe isnt such a great thing
[01:52] <greedyb> hey how can I increase my refresh rate on my laptop? its only giving me the option for 60Hz
[01:52] <kbrooks> signius: Why?
[01:53] <andres_> no i just cant select the correct values (1200x800)
[01:53] <kbrooks> signius: it is a good idea to me.. look at debian
[01:53] <andres_> i have a i915 and have installed the drivers for it
[01:53] <iiiears> greedyb - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:53] <iiiears> !display
[01:53] <ubotu> display is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution
[01:53] <signius> Debian might be slow but its rock solid and reliable and if you want the latest just use unstable
[01:53] <andres_> then i run sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:54] <brownie17> signius, is it as easy to use as ubuntu?
[01:54] <signius> I dont think it is drastically harder
[01:55] <signius> if you want simple dont need to learn or do anything use Linspire
[01:55] <A-star> hi everyone
[01:55] <iiiears> andres_ - do you mean on the desktop the options are greyed out or don't appear?
[01:55] <A-star> is there an expert who knows alot about tomcat?
[01:55] <signius> If debian is so bad why is it that 8 out 10 distros are based upon Debian ?>
[01:56] <WoundUp> debian isn't bad.  but it's slow to catch up.  security reeleasee only for 'stable' and stable was a 2.4 kernel untiul may, for example.
[01:57] <signius> I am refering to things like the cisco aironet drivers being broken in breezy and things like this, this is not exotic or new hardware this is rock solid stuff that has worked for years and now all of a sudden its been broken though i will put alot of the blame for that with the kernel developers
[01:57] <kurtkraut> Where can I find my Xorg log ? I'm getting some trouble with that and I need to check the log
[01:57] <WoundUp> also, debian's installer isn't that hot.  and they do massively strange things to the configuratiion files of common apps such as apache and postfix.
[01:57] <greedyb> iiiears, what do I need to make the changes work? I did the xorg config and guessed the ranges of my hsync and vsync
[01:57] <tris622ph> what function in c++ that return the free disk space on drive?
[01:57] <bimberi> kurtkraut: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:58] <tris622ph> or in C langusage
[01:58] <tris622ph> or in C language
[01:58] <iiiears> greedyb - two things to try. first try sudo dpkg-xserver-xorg. and use the simple settings
[01:59] <WoundUp> signius: I don't have specific knowledge to address that.  debian might be more solid than ubuntu in that regard.
[01:59] <greedyb> YAY I love you guys... my movies arent out of sync anymore!
[01:59] <greedyb> oh I did advanced iiiears I'll re-do it
[01:59] <aeon17x> !ubotu are you on weed
[01:59] <ubotu> aeon17x: Syntax error in line 1
[02:00] <wickedpuppy> tris622ph, ##c
[02:00] <Seveas> tris622ph, there is no such function
[02:00] <wickedpuppy> tris622ph, i can just do df ...
[02:00] <iiiears> greedyb - the second thing to try is a bit more interesting. - write down the FCC device ID # down on the back of your monitor and use that number on the fcc.gov site to read the product description detaiils for you monitor.
[02:00] <greedyb> its a laptop screen
[02:00] <greedyb> so the refresh rate is gonna be higher then normal
[02:01] <WoundUp> iiiears: now there's a coool idea.  have to remmebr that one somehow.
[02:01] <Carizma> hi.
[02:01] <kurtkraut> bimberi, thanks
[02:01] <iiiears> iiears - nearly every electronic device that emits a magnetic field is listed there.
[02:01] <signius> this is where Mandrake used to fall down all the time by pushing the latest versions of things and releasing new releaeses often but it proved to be very unstable and unreliable becuase of this alot of the time
[02:01] <bimberi> kurtkraut: yw :)
[02:03] <e-sin> argh.  even if i launch gnome-session-properties using sudo it still won't save startup apps.  i thought maybe it was a permissions thing somehow
[02:03] <greedyb> ok I did medium
[02:03] <e-sin> i hate when things just spontaneously break
[02:04] <iiiears> e-sin - murphy was an optimist.
[02:04] <Seveas> e-sin, if you do that as root, you save the settings for root...
[02:04] <greedyb> iiiears, how do I restart xorg so I can see the changes?
[02:04] <e-sin> Seveas, oh.  oops.
[02:04] <Seveas> so that will have no effect at all on your environment
[02:05] <ulle> in trying to run a program from a .jar-file with command java jar filename.jar amd it gives the following error message Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: jar
[02:05] <mitch> wats a program i can use to take .isos of cds
[02:05] <e-sin> well then im completely scoobied
[02:05] <iiiears> greedyb - i don't know the correct way. - lol usually i ctrl+alt+backspace  or drop to F2 terminal and  "kill gdm"
[02:05] <greedyb> ok how would I get back
[02:05] <greedyb> I've done that before just dont know how to get back
[02:05] <wickedpuppy> startx
[02:05] <iiiears> greedyb - then        startx
[02:06] <greedyb> ahhh okay :) thanks brb
[02:06] <mitch> wats a program i can use to make a iso from a cd
[02:07] <[Spooky] > mitch: dd would be fine...
[02:07] <aftertaf> mkisofs -help
[02:07] <aftertaf>  ?
[02:07] <mitch> [Spooky]  is it called dd, or is the name longer
[02:08] <thoreauputic> mitch: if you want a GUI, graveman or gnomebaker will do that (and burn CDs of course)
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> dd is dd :P
[02:08] <[Spooky] > mitch: its called dd, try man dd
[02:08] <Mabus06> how do I play doom from the synaptic package manager?
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> Mabus06, if you can play doom from synaptic ... i be surprised
[02:09] <mitch> thanks thoreauputic [Spooky] 
[02:11] <ulle> Can anybody help me I'm trying to run a program from a .jar-file with command java jar filename.jar amd it gives the following error message Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: jar
[02:11] <greedyb> iiiears, I broke it :P
[02:11] <Mabus06> hey wickedpuppy could you maybe be helpful instead of sarcastic?
[02:12] <iiiears> greedyb - erm - broke it? - please say you are kidding me.
[02:12] <A-star> anyone expierince with tomcat?
[02:12] <greedyb> how can I get back into the place to reconfigure xorg
[02:12] <Mabus06> the doom that gets INSTALLED FROM synaptic
[02:12] <greedyb> yeah it gives me errors and wont let me back in
[02:12] <iiiears> greedyb - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:12] <greedyb> ahhh I was doing xorg
[02:12] <greedyb> ok
[02:13] <carm> hi all
[02:13] <ian_> why does ubuntu always think my blank CDs are full, whenever I try and write data to a disc it always asks me to insert a disc with enough space.
[02:13] <iiiears> A-star tomcat is nice
[02:13] <carm> i cant start my nfs-kernel-server via /etc/init.d
[02:13] <carm> nfs is activated in the kernel, portmap works...
[02:14] <iiiears> A-star - what kind of pages do you want to serve? flat? dynamic? database?
[02:14] <thoreauputic> carm: are you sure it isn't running already? Or try sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-servver restart
[02:14] <carm> and when i try to start nfs all i get is "starting rpc nfsd... failed"
[02:14] <Mabus06> how do you play the doom that gets installed from synaptic?
[02:14] <thoreauputic> carm: oops typo in that ...
[02:15] <thoreauputic> carm: one extra "v" ;)
[02:15] <carm> thoreauputic: yes, im sure it isnt running already
[02:15] <thoreauputic> carm: try "restart" ?
[02:15] <iiiears> Mabus - likely same deal as Q2 - no retail lvls included only those made by enthusiasts.
[02:15] <carm> and when i try a restart its the same result
[02:16] <Mabus06> but it said there were things you could download if you didnt have the commercial version
[02:16] <Mabus06> which I did
[02:16] <selinium_> Mabus06, Hav eyou found the Doom packages?
[02:16] <thoreauputic> carm: do you have nfs-common installed, and have you configured your exports etc ?
[02:16] <Mabus06> but how do I run it?
[02:16] <Mabus06> Yes selinium_, I installed everything doom related
[02:16] <greedyb2> alright, I got it fixed but I'm still 60hz lol
[02:16] <iiiears> Mabus06 - that sounds like fun. - doom ? or doom2
[02:16] <thoreauputic> carm: if nfs finds no exports it won't start
[02:17] <Mabus06> well except for the ones where there were two options
[02:17] <selinium_> Mabus06, which one did you download? freedoom?
[02:17] <Mabus06> doom
[02:17] <Mabus06> I dont know?
[02:17] <greedyb2> the reason why I want to change it is because the screen on this laptop has weird problems when I run low refresh rate
[02:17] <carm> nfs-common is installed and /etc/exports is well configured
[02:17] <selinium_> lxdoom
[02:17] <Mabus06> one second
[02:17] <Mabus06> yeah, lxdoom
[02:17] <iiiears> Mabus06 - poke around your home folder after CTRL+H an see if the executable file to start it is there.
[02:17] <Mabus06> that sounds familliar
[02:17] <selinium_> type lxdoom in the term
[02:17] <thoreauputic> carm:  /msg ubotu nfs
[02:18] <Mabus06> aswesome, thanks
[02:18] <A-star> iiiears, I'm just trying to set it up. I want to call a jsp script from apache that gets executed by tomcat.
[02:18] <Mabus06> whoa uh...
[02:18] <Mabus06> any way to get it to be a larger window?
[02:18] <A-star> iiiears, sorry if this is a little obscure, but we are learning to setup a server with that for school, and they just say: google for it.
[02:19] <A-star> msg NickServ  users-subscribe@tomcat.apache.org
[02:19] <iiiears> A-star - tomcat is pretty easy. apache has a lot more info tho.
[02:20] <Mabus06> how do I run lxdoom, making it with a larger window?
[02:20] <Mabus06> it's like 2 by 3 inches big
[02:20] <iiiears> A-star - if you have enough time d/l and pick apart one of those tomcat multi package installs you know the ones that include mysql etc.
[02:20] <A-star> iiiears: well I have tomcat setup so that is listens on port 8080, but I'm having problems on linking apache and tomcat together.
[02:21] <A-star> I have build the required module, but I just can't get it to work
[02:21] <Mabus06> :| can at least someone tell me if its not a simple solution or if it is?
[02:21] <Mabus06> even if they don't feel like blessing me with how to do it?
[02:22] <pybe> Mabus06: try lxdoom --help or man lxdoom
[02:22] <guiss> how can i build support for iso-8859-1 in ubuntu?
[02:24] <ulle> Can anybody help me I'm trying to run a program from a .jar-file with command java jar filename.jar amd it gives the following error message Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: jar
[02:24] <A-star> iiiears: do you have an example of such a package?
[02:24] <A-star> ulle: isn't the right command java -jar filename?
[02:25] <iiiears> A-star - best i could find not too much help. http://www.quakernet.org.uk/sites/ituse/CMSs.htm
[02:27] <tris622ph> what is the equivalent of CView in gtkmm?
[02:27] <A-star> iiiears: thanks for the help, I'll have a look
[02:28] <ulle> A:star thanks I remembered the command wrong
[02:28] <iiiears> A-star - make great tarball backups it's java. - grin
[02:28] <greedyb2> hmmm can I not run 32bit graphcs on this laptop with Ubuntu?
[02:28] <greedyb2> its an NvidiaGeforce2Go
[02:29] <onkarshinde> greedyb2: What is meant by 32bit graphics?
[02:29] <greedyb2> well i'm looking at images online (wallpapers) and the gradients look off
[02:30] <iiiears> greedyb - installed nvidia-glx         in place of NV ???
[02:30] <greedyb2> okay I will try
[02:31] <iiiears> greedyb - nvidia-glx is speedy. ;)
[02:31] <greedyb2> thats not through xserver-xorg is it
[02:32] <iiiears> greedyb -  it is in synaptic
[02:32] <greedyb2> okay i'm already searchin
[02:32] <greedyb2> g
[02:32] <iiiears> greedyb - grin
[02:32] <ChristianP> hi all
[02:32] <iiiears> Good Morning ChristianP
[02:33] <ChristianP> i have to access with gftp to an ubuntu instance
[02:33] <ChristianP> i need to access as "root" user
[02:33] <ChristianP> is there a way to do this?
[02:33] <bluefrog-10> sudo
[02:34] <ChristianP> bluefrog-10, in gftp???
[02:34] <bluefrog-10> sudo gftp
[02:34] <bluefrog-10> gftp will be run as root
[02:35] <hellfire> I`ve installed real player 10GOLD on Ubuntu 5.10, but when i try to open .avi file i get "The following components are required: AVI"
[02:35] <hellfire>  I`ve installed w32 codecs
[02:35] <ChristianP> bluefrog-10, but i'm not in under ubuntu, the pc where i want to enter is ubuntu
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> bluefrog-10, i don't think thats what he is asking
[02:35] <hellfire> and i don`t have problems playing movies with other programs
[02:35] <hellfire> I don`t have problems playing .mp3s however
[02:35] <hellfire> Any ideas?
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> ChristianP, thats tricky .. you know ubuntu by default does not have root account ... everything goes by sudo
[02:36] <william_> oh that is much iiiears  thank you very much!
[02:36] <william_> wow I cant type today.. that is much better thank you
[02:36] <bluefrog-10> ChristianP, unless u set up ftp to allow root, u won't
[02:36] <iiiears> william did yu change your nickname?
[02:36] <ChristianP> wickedpuppy, i know, so there isn't a way to use gftp as the root user in the ubuntu pc?
[02:37] <hellfire> can you help me with my Real Player problem?
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> ChristianP, unless that ftp server is running as root ?
[02:37] <xiaogil> ubuntu is incredibly slow on iMac (2nd generation), is that normal ?
[02:37] <xiaogil> it's unusable
[02:37] <holam> Hi
[02:37] <ChristianP> wickedpuppy, excuse me, i access into ssh server
[02:37] <william_> yeah I was greedyb b4 I restarted xserver
[02:37] <hellfire>  I`ve installed real player 10GOLD on Ubuntu 5.10, but when i try to open .avi file i get "The following components are required: AVI"
[02:38] <hellfire> can you help me?
[02:38] <holam> Pls help me to find fonts on the internet?
[02:38] <william_> works great! everything looks soo much better
[02:38] <ChristianP> as a user (not root becouse ubuntu has no root user
[02:38] <iiiears> ah - okay WHEW! (thought i might be having a "senior moment" a bit scarey at 43 - rofl
[02:38] <bluefrog-10> ChristianP, if u were telling us what u want to do, there's maybe a workaround..
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> ah great ChristianP you can stop ftp server and start with sudo
[02:38] <william_> hellfire, have you installed w32codecs ?
[02:39] <william_> haha it's all good iiiears atleast you can type... unlike me
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> maybe that might work
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> no idea
[02:39] <Gourami> can someone help me with the problem I am having, I have a clean installation of Breezy but for some reason there is non stop hard drive activity which is crippling the machine
[02:39] <iiiears> hellfire there are a bunch of codecs for avi synaptic search avi or "mad"
[02:40] <ChristianP> bluefrog-10, i want to access into a ubuntu server with gftp throw ssh2 as a "root" user, but i can't do it becouse ubuntu has no root user
[02:40] <ArdieM> can tell me a sfv checker??
[02:40] <william_> man these nvidia-glx drivers work like 100% better
[02:40] <bluefrog-10> ChristianP, unless ftp is specifically configured for, u won't be ablle to log in ftp as root
[02:40] <ChristianP> bluefrog-10, i use SSH2
[02:40] <ChristianP> not ftp
[02:40] <bluefrog-10> why do u kneed to be root to go in ftp, that is my question
[02:41] <Seveas> split splat
[02:41] <iiiears> ChristianP - ya can set up a root user   - check out ubotu's link
[02:41] <iiiears> !rootsudo
[02:41] <ubotu> methinks rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:42] <iiiears> sudo passwd root
[02:42] <ChristianP> bluefrog-10, i need an account to "manage" my ubuntu instance from remote with gftp to tranfers files everywhere in the filesystem
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> ChristianP, rsync
[02:42] <iiiears> sudo passwd root -l     l=lock
[02:42] <ChristianP> iiiears, thanks
[02:43] <Gourami> can someone help me with the problem I am having, I have a clean installation of Breezy but for some reason there is non stop hard drive activity which is crippling the machine
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> Gourami, can you type top ? tell us which is the .. top most
[02:44] <Gourami> wickedpuppy top most is Xorg
[02:44] <iiiears> Gourami - do a ps -e  to see what's running or  top    - then   kill app_name    until you find it. - very unusual.
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> oh ... then ah ... X is taking that much resources ?
[02:45] <hellfire> Anyone using real player?
[02:45] <e-sin> after using Automatix to install a few things, applications listed under the Startup Programs tab of Gnome's session manager no longer exist.  Further, adding applications to the list has no effect; as soon as i close and reopen the session properties dialog they are missing agian.  other accounts work fine.  i've reinstalled gnome-session, gnome, and ubuntu-desktop, to no avail.  i have no idea what to try next.
[02:45] <targetx> hi everyone!
[02:46] <Gourami> wickedpuppy Xorg is only using around 7% its not cpu usage it seems that there is some sort of hardware or config problem relating to how the hard drive is accessed
[02:46] <e-sin> and um...if you help me fix it, i'll give you a cookie :D
[02:46] <simon__> hola
[02:46] <simon__> hello
[02:46] <simon__> da
[02:46] <Gourami> wickedpuppy and I have installed twice with the same result
[02:46] <targetx> hi e-sin
[02:46] <e-sin> hello!
[02:46] <simon__> im spanish
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> Gourami, 7% of ?
[02:47] <simon__> alguien habla espaol
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> simon__, #ubuntu-es
[02:47] <simon__> ?
[02:47] <iiiears> hola - our espanol is very limited - you might find more help at ubuntu-es
[02:47] <targetx> CPU Usgae (7%)
[02:47] <simon__> ok
[02:47] <iiiears> you are certainly welcome here.
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> Gourami, for me its only 1.3%
[02:47] <bluefrog-10> ChristianP, maybe i don't understand all. if u need to change some files in the system this must be a one time shot, maybe more but most certainly not on a regular basis. so if it's not regular u send files using ftp if u like and then using ssh u put them where u want. if it's regular i think ther's something wrong in the thinking
[02:48] <Gourami> wickedpuppy right now cpu usage is 0.7% of which X is using 0.3% 1 task running
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> Gourami, then still blinking ?
[02:48] <e-sin> top is pretty neat.  didnt know about that
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> e-sin, you can kill process from there as well :P
[02:49] <e-sin> nifty :)
[02:49] <Gourami> wickedpuppy if system is completely idle no hdd activity but if I do anything lick launch browser or click applications menu hdd will run non stop for while
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> Gourami, whats ya ram and cpu ?
[02:49] <M-> anyone able to give me a hand mounting the breezy initrd (as a loopback fs)?
[02:49] <Gourami> wickedpuppy 256
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> 256 ... swap space ?
[02:50] <iiiears> Gourami - do you have more than one desktop installed? - maybe two gdm running?
[02:50] <Gourami> wickedpuppy not sure of swap how can I check ? (told Ubuntu to auto partition)
[02:50] <Gourami> iiiears no its is a completely clean installation
[02:50] <iiiears> Gourami - interesting.
[02:51] <dooglus> e-sin: press shift-A in top and it goes multi-windowed.  not sure what all the windows mean, but it looks neat :)
[02:51] <Gourami> iiiears and I reinstalled in case it was a problem with first installation
[02:51] <Gourami> how do I check swap file size ?
[02:51] <sauron_the_mad> hello
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> Gourami, type free
[02:51] <e-sin> craziness
[02:52] <iiiears> Gourami - google or bugzilla.ubuntu.com might turn something up.
[02:52] <dooglus> Gourami: "swapon -s"
[02:52] <tomorrow> dfsf
[02:52] <Gourami> wickedpuppy Swap: total 369452 used 91824 free 277628
[02:52] <brenner> dooglus: ah, yes, but how do you scrool top's output to see the bottom processes? :)
[02:52] <brenner> scroll even. :)
[02:53] <dooglus> brenner: j and k?
[02:53] <dooglus> brenner: same keys as in vi and nethack for up and down
[02:53] <e-sin> k is kill
[02:53] <brenner> dooglus: not working for me...
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> Gourami, well you got lots of free memory ...
[02:53] <Gourami> can I check DMA on a hdd or only CD ?
[02:53] <brenner> j is unknown, k is as e-sin says
[02:54] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, How much ram do you have?
[02:54] <targetx> Gourami, you can check it on a hdd too
[02:54] <dooglus> brenner: no, I ammend my previous answer to "no brenner, I don't, but I thought I did, and I certainly used to"
[02:54] <Gourami> Nick_Hill 256
[02:54] <Nick_Hill> hdparm /dev/hda
[02:54] <dooglus> brenner: maybe it was on HP-UX where 'j' and 'k' work?
[02:54] <brenner> dooglus: but it *did* work?
[02:55] <brenner> dooglus: reason is, i asked before and no-one seemed to know
[02:55] <Gourami> dma = 1/on
[02:55] <e-sin> Oooo pretty.  z for color
[02:55] <sauron_the_mad> i have a problem with the sreenrefreshrate... cant go higher than 60hz (gforce2)
[02:55] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, To set DMA (assuming first drive on first IDE channel: sudo -d1 /dev/hda
[02:55] <e-sin> nice and orange :)
[02:55] <Nick_Hill> oops
[02:55] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, To set DMA (assuming first drive on first IDE channel: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[02:55] <dooglus> brenner: I've definitely scrolled through top's output before.  I can't be sure it was in Linux.  I'll find out for you.
[02:56] <brenner> !tell sauron_the_mad about fixres
[02:56] <Gourami> what I dont get is this machine was running hoary fine
[02:56] <MenZa`> Anyone here from London?
[02:56] <brenner> sauron_the_mad: that isn't dedicated to refresh rate, but it has a section on monitor rates....that's your problem
[02:56] <sauron_the_mad> thnx, ill try
[02:56] <Gourami> Nick_Hill dma should be left on though I presume
[02:57] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, You canget a better view of memory, swap, cpu usage with the command 'top'
[02:57] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, Yes. DMA makes drive accesses much faster and less CPU intensive.
[02:57] <targetx> hey when I try to install any software that came with Ubuntu (like bittorrent, cause I prefer bittornado) it says it can only be removed by removing 'Ubuntu-Desktop' also... isn't that lame?
[02:57] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, DMA will make the difference between 5Mb/s and 100% CPU utilisation, and 60Mb/s with 10% utilisation
[02:57] <Gourami> Nick_Hill I have used top: cpu usage is 0.7% of which X is using 0.3% 1 task running
[02:57] <e-sin> i've been wondering about that too
[02:58] <e-sin> the ubuntu-desktop thing
[02:58] <targetx> e-sin, ahh great :) Then I'm not the only one.. I mean.. wether or not I want bittorrent installed, I should still be able to keep the ubuntu-desktop
[02:58] <brenner> dooglus: don't trouble yourself. :) it's not that important to me.
[02:58] <e-sin> yes
[02:59] <e-sin> i think u can reinstall it after the removal
[02:59] <iiiears> ubotu gps is http://www.geekindenial.com/blog/archives/2004/11/my_gps_sort_of_1.html
[02:59] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[02:59] <xiaogil> ubuntu is incredibly slow on iMac (2nd generation), is that normal ?
[02:59] <MenZa`> Anyone here who lives in, or knows London well?
[02:59] <targetx> e-sin, I think that would reinstall bittorrent though
[02:59] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, If HDD is going crazy when you do anything, there is clearly a virtual memory issue
[02:59] <Gourami> hard drive only goes mad when I run anything but there is no impact on the output of top
[02:59] <Nick_Hill> MenZa`, Yes
[02:59] <Seveas> MenZa`, please take offtopic discussions elsewhere
[02:59] <e-sin> ah
[02:59] <MenZa`> Sorry 'bout that
[03:00] <warthawg> where do you go or what do you use to reconfigure sound cards?
[03:00] <e-sin> i guess ubuntu-desktop is the package with all the apps ubuntu bundles?
[03:00] <Seveas> e-sin, no it's a metapackage that depends on all of them
[03:00] <Seveas> so ubuntu-desktop can be uninstalled safely - nothing will get lost
[03:00] <e-sin> really?
[03:00] <iiiears> warthog - alsa-config ?
[03:00] <targetx> Seveas, but it says that it is required for certain updates
[03:01] <Seveas> but during upgrades to newer ubuntu versions you should have it installed
[03:01] <warthawg> iiiears,   thanks
[03:01] <Gourami> Nick_Hill solution ? as I have done two standard clean installation
[03:01] <targetx> "It is safe to remove this package if some of the desktop system
[03:01] <targetx> packages are not desired.  However, it is recommended that you keep
[03:01] <targetx> it installed, because it is used to carry out certain upgrade
[03:01] <targetx> transitions (such as adding new packages to the system)."
[03:01] <e-sin> hm
[03:01] <e-sin> interesting
[03:01] <targetx> lol I think I'll just remove the bittorrent entry from my menu.. I think I'll forget to reinstall ubuntu-desktop when the next update is comming lol
[03:01] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, I have my thinking hat on.
[03:02] <Gourami> Nick_Hill mine has a huge bite out of it...
[03:02] <Seveas> --> thoreauputic (n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic) has joined #ubuntu
[03:02] <Seveas> I see the cloaks are working :)
[03:02] <e-sin> i was making this login screen and i didnt realize how bad of an idea it was to login under the same username twice.  after doing that, it somehow broke ubuntu-desktop package and when logging in after a full logout, my desktop wouldn't display until i reinstalled the package from w/in KDE
[03:02] <e-sin> so i thought it was REALLY important to have
[03:02] <iiiears> Seveas - i have installed a radio card. - where do i add    radio   to /dev/   so it is  /dev/radio ?
[03:02] <thoreauputic> Seveas: thanks for that - got a msg from lilo  :)
[03:03] <targetx> I guess it just overwritten some stuff that you messed up :)
[03:03] <Seveas> e-sin, no, logging in twice as the same user is simply not good
[03:03] <e-sin> yeah that was before i knew about xnest
[03:03] <iiiears> Good Morning thoreauputic.
[03:03] <Seveas> iiiears, -ENOCLUE
[03:03] <targetx> I wouldn't even know how to login twice as the same user lol
[03:03] <thoreauputic> hi iiiears  :)
[03:03] <targetx> Seveas, lol have you used Gentoo ? :)
[03:03] <iiiears> Seveas - lol okay. i'll google it.
[03:03] <e-sin> hehe it's in system tools->new login
[03:03] <Seveas> targetx, for a brief black period in my life
[03:04] <targetx> e-sin, ah I see.. bah I really should've used more desktop-linux. All I used for the last 2 years were linux servers
[03:05] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, Does the machine take long to boot up? When you run top, does it show the full 256Mb of ram? What chipset/CPU?
[03:05] <targetx> Seveas, I have never used it myself. Why was it so bad ?
[03:05] <frank_b> is there a list of graphic cards supported by ubuntu?
[03:05] <targetx> all graphiccards supported by linux I suppose.. are supported by Ubuntu too.
[03:05] <targetx> you could try checkin out the hardware compatability list on www.linuxquestions.org
[03:06] <targetx> frank_b, which card do you want to use on Linux?
[03:06] <iiiears> !hardware
[03:06] <ubotu> from memory, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:06] <frank_b> targetx: is. but ubuntu supports more. is there a list?
[03:06] <ovihc> so equa
[03:06] <targetx> frank_b, IF that is true, then I would be guessing it is on the ubuntu website.. But I seriously doubt your statement
[03:06] <frank_b> targetx: an ATI radeon.
[03:07] <targetx> frank_b, I think that will be supported through the regular ATI drivers, dont you think?
[03:07] <enajeirak> does anyone know what mp3 player accually works with ubuntu?
[03:07] <Seveas> targetx, www.funroll-loops.org
[03:07] <frank_b> ubotu: I'll check it htanks
[03:07] <ubotu> frank_b: What?
[03:07] <e-sin> enajeirak,  mp3 player as in xmms or as in iPod?
[03:07] <targetx> Seveas, hahaha thanks :)
[03:08] <targetx> I think he means a hardware player
[03:08] <iiiears> frank_b, - ATI is okay. the free drivers work fine for everything but games
[03:08] <enajeirak> i mean somthing that will contiuousy play on the computer
[03:08] <enajeirak> no hardware
[03:08] <dooglus> brenner: I can't find anything about scrolling in top(1).  but to be honest, after the first screen all the processes are using so little CPU that they change order pretty much at random.  maybe the scrolling function was useless enough that it got dropped.
[03:08] <targetx> enajeirak, I like beep-media-player
[03:08] <iiiears> frank_b, - fglrx will give you acceleration
[03:08] <e-sin> enajeirak, beep, xmms, amaroK are ones i like
[03:08] <Gourami> Nick_Hill start boot to login screen 1min30sec
[03:08] <frank_b> ok. thanks all. I got it
[03:08] <enajeirak> okay, i will give that a try
[03:09] <enajeirak> thank you, the ones that ubuntu comes with are retarded
[03:09] <e-sin> yes
[03:09] <dooglus> enajeirak: they all work, but they all need a codec to decode mp3s
[03:09] <nisa> haLO BOLEH KENALAN NGGAK?
[03:09] <enajeirak> oooh im a newbie, can i install that with synaptic?
[03:10] <sazwerx> nisa, halooo???
[03:10] <targetx> enajeirak, yes you definately can
[03:10] <dooglus> well, mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the
[03:10] <frank_b> thanks targetx, iiiears, ubotu. bye all
[03:10] <dooglus>               RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[03:10] <sazwerx> nisa, :p
[03:10] <targetx> enajeirak, but you might need to enable multiverse / universe repositories
[03:10] <targetx> frank_b, np! good luck
[03:10] <enajeirak> wunderbar!!!
[03:10] <AMDXP> man i am loving this 5.10
[03:10] <iiiears> enajeirak, checkout gstreamer0.8-mad r find a copy of w32codec on sourceforge
[03:10] <brenner> dooglus: thanks. i did some searching ages ago...i was under the impression it was never implemented at all (but you've obviously seen it).  you're right though, it's not that big a deal not being able to scroll....i was just wondering if it's actually possible.
[03:11] <AMDXP> let me see how this is
[03:11] <dooglus> brenner: maybe not now, and maybe not on linux, but sometime, somewhere it was once possible.  and it sucked.  :)
[03:11] <iiiears> gstreamer mad is in synaptic   community supported
[03:11] <signius> is anyone familar with how ubuntu treats devices
[03:11] <targetx> signius, I think it used udev
[03:11] <Gourami> Nick_Hill login screen to ready 2m15sec
[03:11] <enajeirak> okay, that is great,i always get so much help when in come in here
[03:11] <signius> I am 100% sure my gps unit is on /dev/ttyUSB0 but if i look in /dev i cannot find this device
[03:12] <iiiears> Linux Community :)
[03:12] <signius> i am a bit of a noob still so i may be being dumb here
[03:12] <brenner> is variable sample bit rates normal using OGG?
[03:12] <targetx> signius, no problem, this is Ubuntu support so go ahead :)
[03:12] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, hmmm.
[03:12] <brenner> dooglus: hehe....you must be quite old then to have seen it first hand :P
[03:12] <signius> well i am not getting any data at all from my gps unit connected on /dev/ttyUSB0
[03:12] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, The boot to log-in screen is about right. Launching GTK applications is taking the time.
[03:13] <signius> but the device is being seen
[03:13] <targetx> sig, try looking for any device named /dev/tty* and see if it matches the name closely (uppercase etc matters)
[03:13] <signius> but this device doesnt seem to appear i /dev
[03:13] <iiiears> brenner - variable bit rate adapts to keep as much song data in each song file as possible. on lossless encoding is better.
[03:13] <signius> i = in
[03:13] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, A shot in the dark.. but have you tried changing the graphics card driver to vesa?
[03:13] <signius> this all worked before in hoary
[03:13] <iiiears> brenner - erm "only
[03:13] <sg> just booted up with the Breezy live CD and I seem to be limited to a 640X480 screen resolution, can this be changed?
[03:14] <e-sin> signius,  i have a similar problem with my digital camera.  i cant find it to unmount it.
[03:14] <Gourami> Nick_Hill and hard drive does not stop at all during that time, sorry this machine actually has 128 not 256
[03:14] <e-sin> but i can get pics from it
[03:14] <locky> Hello, I have just installed Ubuntu, great dist. but is i possible to get Gnome to look more cool than is does from the beginning, and so some of you guys know a guide howto?
[03:14] <Gourami> Nick_Hill its onboard intel
[03:14] <targetx> signius, sorry I cannot help you then I'm affraid. I've only started using Ubuntu a week ago :-), so I don't know about Ubuntu-specific issuess. (I've used Arch Linux & Slackware for several years though)
[03:14] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, Which chip set? Try lspci
[03:14] <brenner> iiiears: thanks for the info.  i'm guessing FLAC gives 192kpbs?
[03:14] <Gourami> Nick_Hill total 125332 used 122748 ???? free 2516
[03:15] <signius> I f cant get all this broken stuff sorted by tonight in breezy i am going back to hoary or possibly back to using SuSe
[03:15] <iiiears> brenner - i like flac best
[03:15] <signius> if you are used to Slackware you will hate Ubuntu i am sure
[03:15] <signius> you will be going back to slackware real fast
[03:15] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, 128Mb will make GUI slow, but shouldn't slow to that extent. Unless Breezy has loaded memory-hungry daemons.
[03:15] <targetx> signius, no I hated the slackware packagemanagement, and that was not a problem for running it on one of my servers
[03:16] <targetx> but I'm not gonna run slackware on my Desktop box
[03:16] <highvoltage> where is the default docroot for apache2 in breezy?
[03:16] <targetx> highvoltage, /home/httpd/html perhaps
[03:16] <Gourami> Nick_Hill same machine ran hoary fine
[03:16] <highvoltage> a friend just phoned me and said he's putting files in /var/www and nothing appears
[03:16] <brenner> iiiears: what sort of rip rate do you get?  i'm getting ~4 using OGG, and a CD takes roughly 10 minutes....i'm guessing flac takes longer?
[03:16] <highvoltage> targetx: is that the default?
[03:16] <targetx> highvoltage, let him try /home/httpd/html. I don't know for sure but that is a reasonable spot
[03:16] <brenner> using sound juicer i meant
[03:16] <signius> then perhaps gentoo is more fo you has alot more in common with slack but has a first class package manager
[03:16] <iiiears> brenner - yeah - pretty darn slow about 3X
[03:17] <targetx> highvoltage, I don't know, I just started using Ubuntu a week ago so I don't know about Ubuntu's defaults yet, but those were the defaults on Arch and Slackware
[03:17] <targetx> signius, I will never run Gentoo
[03:17] <targetx> never ever
[03:17] <signius> why not ?
[03:17] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, Try running top, then press capital M. This will sort processes by memory usage
[03:17] <Gourami> Nick_Hill lspci gives Intel Corp 82845G
[03:17] <targetx> signius, cause I hate those Gentoo posers 'omg 1337 CFLAG' etc :)
[03:18] <targetx> and I don't think doing regular work is worth compiling everything from scratch
[03:18] <signius> you dont have to go out partying with them
[03:18] <Gourami> Nick_Hill top mem is gnome with 8.8%
[03:18] <targetx> signius, lol. thats true.. but I could never tell anyone I'm using gentoo hehe
[03:19] <Gourami> Nick_Hill total 125332 used 122748 ???? free 2516 how can 122 be used if top doesnt report who is using it ?
[03:19] <signius> and besides they dont have a patch on the OpenBSD boys for L337 attitude and talking down to people
[03:19] <n> anyone here knowledgeable on openldap? thanks
[03:20] <targetx> signius, true. I have to agree with you on that, but I still won't ever install Gentoo on my machine :)
[03:20] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, Integrated graphics chipsets reserve memory for viseo frame store.
[03:20] <signius> i used to gentoo for a while on my laptop and to be honest once you use it for a bit its a real nice system
[03:20] <signius> and has 1st class documentaion also
[03:20] <targetx> so is Arch Linux & Slackware & perhaps Ubuntu
[03:20] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, It is possible it could incorrectly be allocating 32 or 64Mb
[03:20] <targetx> Arch Linux being the fastest of the 3 I think
[03:21] <Gourami> Nick_Hill can this be confirmed or adjusted ?
[03:21] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, Check /var/log/Xorg.log i
[03:22] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, You may also want to check BIOS settings whether you can manually set reserved memory for video.
[03:23] <Gourami> Nick_Hill there is no Xorg.log only Xorg.0.log ok ?
[03:24] <Nick_Hill> yes
[03:24] <Gourami> Nick_Hill ok there is a lot in this file what am I looking for ?
[03:25] <Nick_Hill> any references to video memory
[03:25] <iiiears> Gourami - "swappiness"    http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8308     or sysctrl may have a switch to help manage memory.
[03:25] <sexcopter8000m> hi, can anyone recommend a package to record a video stream?
[03:26] <brenner> what exactly does synaptic do when you mark a package for re-installation? does it remove it first?
[03:26] <aftertaf> no i think it unpacks the deb again and overwrites all the files
[03:26] <njs12345> hmm
[03:27] <njs12345> I just installed hoary on my system with RAID
[03:27] <njs12345> and I have two RAID arrays on my system, one for swap and one for root
[03:27] <njs12345> and mdadm only sets up one
[03:27] <aftertaf> w00t
[03:27] <Seveas> brenner, yes
[03:27] <mina> hi
[03:27] <Seveas> but it will keep configuration files installed
[03:28] <mina> how can i setup he OpenGl
[03:28] <Gourami> Nick_Hill there is a line: Will attempt to tell the BIOS that thereis 12288 KB VideoRAM
[03:28] <njs12345> mina: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:28] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, What resolution/ colour depth are you using?
[03:29] <mina> thanks
[03:29] <brenner> Seveas: i tried to remove a package using apt-get remove(hoping to fix it by installing again) and it warned me of possible major breakage....would synaptic cause similar problems if i mark it for reinstall?
[03:29] <Gourami> Nick_Hill 800x600 not sure which depth
[03:29] <Seveas> brenner, apt-get install --reinstall will immediately reinstall and therefor not issue warnings
[03:30] <aftertaf> brenner:  wha is the package?
[03:30] <Seveas> that's essentially what synaptic does
[03:30] <Doktoreas> hi to all guys
[03:30] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, Then you aren't using any more than 2Mb video mem. 12288 is over-allocating. Try changing video card to vesa. That might make a difference.
[03:30] <brenner> well....zlib1g. i'm trying to compile something and it complains about not finding zlib.....i've been told i have issues with autotools as well...don't really know where to start fixing these problems
[03:31] <n> anyone know where to find package for "lynx" program? thanks
[03:31] <Seveas> brenner, apt-get install zlib1g-dev
[03:31] <Doktoreas> got a meeting in the next month, and i like to present ubuntu live, but i need to upgrade some package that are inside the official one
[03:31] <brenner> done so
[03:31] <Nick_Hill> !multiverse
[03:31] <ubotu> hmm... sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[03:31] <Gourami> Nick_Hill you mean physically replace the card ?
[03:31] <Doktoreas> can this be done?
[03:31] <Seveas> what are you compiling?
[03:31] <aftertaf> brenner:  hmm. check you have automake, but remove any before 1.5
[03:31] <brenner> zsnes WIP
[03:31] <Seveas> !info lynx
[03:31] <thoreauputic_> !info lynx
[03:31] <ubotu> lynx: (Text-mode WWW Browser), section web, is optional. Version: 2.8.5-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1811 kB, Installed size: 4580 kB
[03:31] <brenner> someone else compiled it cleanly on hoary and breezy
[03:31] <Seveas> lynx is in main, so apt-get install lynx should work
[03:31] <brenner> i seem to be having problems
[03:31] <Seveas> brenner, zsness is in the repositories
[03:31] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, No, change the driver X windows is using to drive your graphics.
[03:31] <aftertaf> brenner:  check autoconf too... have nly latest version.
[03:32] <Gourami> Nick_Hill sorry how would I do that ?
[03:32] <brenner> Seveas: i know..i need (want, really) a later version...it resolves some issues that bug me
[03:32] <Seveas> brenner, if you insist on compiling: sudo apt-get build-dep zsnes (that drags in all you need for building)
[03:32] <brenner> i did that too :)
[03:32] <Seveas> and also: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:32] <brenner> and that :)
[03:32] <Janitux> gcc
[03:32] <Janitux> g++
[03:32] <aftertaf> brenner:  you got xorg-dev?
[03:32] <Nick_Hill> !xorg
[03:32] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:33] <Seveas> brenner, was about to ask for that :)
[03:33] <brenner> i think so. let me check
[03:33] <Nick_Hill> so at a command prompt, you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:33] <DonVincenzo> hi, is anybody running mediawiki here ?
[03:33] <Nick_Hill> DonVincenzo, Yes
[03:33] <Seveas> MoinMoin > Mediawiki :)
[03:33] <Nick_Hill> An older version
[03:34] <aftertaf> Nick_Hill:  yes
[03:34] <brenner> aftertaf, Seveas yes to libx11-dev, if that's what you meant
[03:34] <aftertaf> brenner:  hmmmmm
[03:34] <Gourami> Nick_Hill sorry how would I go about finding the right driver/changing drivers
[03:34] <brenner> why does pastebin.com delete entries? :-/
[03:34] <DonVincenzo> Nick_hill, I have a problem: my server worked the first time i used it, but now when I try to access it, it doesn't display the front page, but ask me to download a file
[03:34] <brenner> last time i use *that* site
[03:34] <Seveas> use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:34] <Seveas> that does not delete entries
[03:35] <Seveas> (and is nice ubuntu-themed :))
[03:35] <Nick_Hill> DonVincenzo, Seems like a MIME type problem
[03:35] <DonVincenzo> Nick_Hill: and it is impossible to access it from outside (only reachable using localhost, and not my IP adress
[03:36] <iiiears> DonVincenzo, - check out the mime-type encoding for html is it document or octet stream?
[03:36] <Nick_Hill> DonVincenzo, Also, do you have PHP installed?
[03:36] <DonVincenzo> yes
[03:36] <DonVincenzo> everything ran the first time
[03:36] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, if you do lspci, what does the line which mentions VGA say?
[03:37] <brenner> Seveas: i know...just thought it might be/should be used for ubuntu-related pastes only....anyway, done so.  here's the error/s i get: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3692  ... numerous people have told me it's a problem with my autotools
[03:37] <DonVincenzo> Nick_Hill: php is not supposed to run as a kind of deamon, right ?
[03:37] <indypende> no one get the libsane1.0.16 installed without the libusb problem?
[03:37] <Nick_Hill> DonVincenzo, Correct
[03:37] <n> lynx is not in the /pool/main/l/ subdir of my ubuntu install disk i also cant find it in any subdir in my filesystem? is it under a different name?
[03:37] <n> btw is lynx a perl package?
[03:37] <brenner> the only thing i can think of is that i used a bad mirror and got dud packages somehow
[03:38] <Nick_Hill> DonVincenzo, When it asks if you want to download, what does it download? The HTML page or the PHP code?
[03:38] <Gourami> Nick_Hill VGA comp contr Intel Corp 82845G/GL [Brookdale-G] 
[03:38] <Nick_Hill> DonVincenzo, Save to disc, then open file.
[03:38] <Seveas> brenner, that's definitely an autotools error
[03:38] <DonVincenzo> Nick_Hill: phtml
[03:38] <Flux0r> i'm running a virtualhost but i didn't configure it to log in an other file than the standard access.log . strangely it won't log to that file; where is it being logged then?
[03:38] <Flux0r> err in apache2
[03:38] <Nick_Hill> DonVincenzo, If you open the file, do you see HTML or PHP?
[03:39] <Seveas> brenner, can you paste the autogen.sh script on the bin too
[03:39] <n> lynx is not in the /pool/main/l/ subdir of my ubuntu install disk i also cant find it in any subdir in my filesystem? is it under a different name?
[03:39] <n> lynx is not in the /pool/main/l/ subdir of my ubuntu install disk i also cant find it in any subdir in my filesystem? is it under a different name?
[03:39] <n> btw is lynx a perl package?
[03:39] <n> thanks
[03:39] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, Do you have a spare memory module?
[03:39] <Seveas> lynx is not on the cd
[03:39] <aftertaf> n keyboard problems?
[03:39] <Seveas> only in the onlin repos
[03:39] <brenner> Seveas: second....do you want a link to the actual app i'm trying?
[03:39] <n> aftertaf yes sorry
[03:39] <Seveas> brenner, that would help
[03:39] <aftertaf> n :)
[03:39] <DonVincenzo> Nick_Hill: I guess it is php (lot of if, case, etc... )
[03:40] <n> now help me :)
[03:40] <DonVincenzo> Nick_Hill: functions,objects,...
[03:40] <thoreauputic_> n: sudo apt-get install lynx  :)
[03:40] <Gourami> Nick_Hill no I dont, plus this is 1 of 12 machines currently running hoary that I want to upgrade so I cant upgrade all of them
[03:40] <else> is there any possibility to rescue data from unmountable ext3 partitions?
[03:40] <else> it's very very urgent...
[03:41] <n> sorry i have to paste this error im getting
[03:41] <brenner> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3693 http://ipherswipsite.com/zsnes/ (i'm using the 20/10 WIP)
[03:41] <n> root@burgmann27:/# apt-get install lynx
[03:41] <n> E: Malformed line 32 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[03:41] <n> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[03:41] <n> root@burgmann27:/#
[03:41] <thoreauputic_> n: so fix your list
[03:41] <Seveas> n correct your sources.list
[03:41] <Seveas> !tell n about sources
[03:41] <Nick_Hill> DonVincenzo, Then the apache config file is not passing the files with that extension to the php processor. Try renaming from phtml to php
[03:41] <Gourami> Nick_Hill no way to force amount of memory being allocated for vidoe ?
[03:41] <Flux0r> i'm running a virtualhost on apache2 but i didn't configure it to log in an other file than the standard access.log . strangely it won't log to that file; where is it being logged then?
[03:42] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, there is usually a VideoRam parameter which you can pass to the X driver, but we need to first isolate this as a cause of the problem you are having.
[03:42] <soce_32> else: can you fsk the partition?
[03:42] <jharrisonwk> adriyel__: ping
[03:42] <n> i usually just put the package in my current working directory and type dpkg -i "packge_name.deb" because i don't know how to manipulate source.list
[03:42] <n> is there a way that way?
[03:43] <soce_32> s/fsk/fsck/
[03:43] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, If you ahve another add-in graphics adapter, then perform a re-install with that, it will at least isolate the graphics system as being/ not being the cause of the problem.
[03:43] <brenner> n: ubotu should have sent you two pastebin links containing sources.list files...choose the one for your distro, overwrite your old one with it, then apt-get update
[03:43] <Gourami> Nick_Hill I can take a memory module from another machine, you want me to do that then see how the machine performs with 256 ?
[03:44] <else> soce_32, will try that
[03:44] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, That would be a solution. But it wouldn't prove the new version of Ubuntu will work as you expect on 128Mb
[03:45] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, ...A solution to detecting the source of the problem.
[03:45] <n> what's the command to know the Ubuntu version?
[03:45] <Seveas> n, cat /etc/issue
[03:45] <iiiears> Gourami - i have 385mbs and am using 85mbs
[03:45] <n> man this is really steep learning curve :-( lots of details
[03:45] <brenner> Seveas: shed any light?
[03:45] <Gourami> Nick_Hill ok I will do that and also install on another machine thats not intel on board based
[03:45] <iiiears> n - uname -a
[03:46] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, Good idea.
[03:46] <giggsey> I'm using 5.0.4
[03:46] <Seveas> brenner, looks like an error in the sources
[03:46] <Gourami> iiiears Ubuntu is allocating 122mb of 128 to video memory
[03:46] <ugo> hi guys
[03:46] <giggsey> I'm using 5.04 livecd, and my network won't work on ot
[03:46] <ugo> i cant see the manpage for pthreads
[03:46] <brenner> Seveas: i doubt it.....like i said, a dev in #zsnes compiled it cleanly on hoary and breezy
[03:46] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, I thought it was allocating 12Mb
[03:46] <n> something tells me i need to log these conversations for future reference
[03:46] <ugo> how do i install it
[03:46] <Seveas> but apart from a warning in autogen.sh it works here
[03:46] <brenner> i also tried previous wips
[03:46] <iiiears> Seveas are there switches for   agppart ?
[03:46] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, .. or at least asking to allocate 12Mb, and possibly allocating more
[03:48] <brenner> Seveas: that confirms what i dread....i'm the only one seeing this problem
[03:48] <Seveas> brenner, if you want I can give you a breezy .deb of it
[03:48] <brenner> of the WIP?
[03:49] <brenner> that would be brilliant.
[03:49] <point> is it better to have the SWAP partition at the front of my drive, rather than behind the main partition?
[03:49] <indypende> no one get the libsane1.0.16 installed without the libusb problem?
[03:49] <thoreauputic> point: with a fast modern drive it doesn't matter much
[03:50] <Seveas> brenner, http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/zsnes-wip_0.0-1_i386.deb
[03:50] <mannyman> I'm faced with the choice at installation of "linux-386", "linux-image-386", or "linux-image-2.6.12-9-396" what does each mean?
[03:50] <ugo> anyone know how to make pthreads work?
[03:50] <ugo> sorry man pthreads_init
[03:50] <ugo> it doesn't work on my box
[03:50] <Seveas> ugo, this is not a programming channel...
[03:50] <point> thoreauputic, thats what i lack.
[03:50] <brenner> Seveas: cheers! i hope this works.
[03:50] <bluefrog-10> mannyman, take first the others will be installed as well
[03:51] <mannyman> ok
[03:51] <Gourami> Nick_Hill from what top says: 125332 total and 121740 used but the item using it isnt in top
[03:51] <ugo> well im using ubuntu i just want to know what package provides the documentation
[03:51] <DonVincenzo> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[03:51] <DonVincenzo> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[03:51] <thoreauputic> point: did you say something or is my client broken?
[03:51] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, An interesting page: http://www.x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/i810.4.html
[03:51] <DonVincenzo> Nick_Hill: when I type sudo apache2ctl restart, it writes
[03:51] <DonVincenzo> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[03:51] <ugo> Seveas: do you know what the package is?
[03:51] <DonVincenzo> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[03:51] <point> thoreauputic: i did..
[03:51] <DonVincenzo> sorry for the flood
[03:51] <thoreauputic> hmm
[03:51] <Seveas> ugo, manpages-dev
[03:52] <thoreauputic> haha theme changes
[03:52] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, The total used memory is a combination of all processes.
[03:52] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, And that reserved for graphics
[03:52] <j0sh> can anyone tell me where the files are that control what window manager you are using?
[03:52] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, It appears you can force the video emmory to 4Mb
[03:53] <point> gnome-vfs-daemon: needed?
[03:53] <thoreauputic> point: I changed my background colour and your posts disappeared ;-)
[03:53] <Gourami> Nick_Hill maxminum "process" using mem is nautilus 8.8%
[03:53] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:53] <point> :-S
[03:53] <brenner> Seveas: it worked...many thanks!!
[03:53] <CookedGryphon> hi, i'm having problems conecting to a network drive, I think i may have done somethign to my setting but i'm not sure what
[03:53] <Nick_Hill> Add a line under the line which says Driver "i810" as follows:
[03:53] <thoreauputic> point: I think the old idea was that putting swap at the beginning of the drive was a good move
[03:54] <n>  when i run apt-get update how much memory does it usually consume? im kinda low on internet qupota.
[03:54] <ugo> Seveas: thanks
[03:54] <point> thoreauputic. that's what i have read; wanted more insight on the idea.
[03:54] <CookedGryphon> i can't connect to shared windows folders on the network anymore, because it asks me for a username and password and my username and password won't work, it worked without one before
[03:54] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, VideoRam "4096"
[03:54] <ArdieM> /dev/hda9              5036284   4607860    172592  97% /
[03:54] <ArdieM> i need to free space on /
[03:54] <thoreauputic> point: something to do with angular velocity I seem to recall
[03:55] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, Then save file, then restart X
[03:55] <ArdieM> where are the temp files??? maybe apt-get temp files?
[03:55] <CookedGryphon> does anybody know how i can reset my network settigns maybe?
[03:55] <giggsey> I'm using 5.04 livecd, and my network won't work on it
[03:55] <Raptor`> kubuntu is the best OS ever!!
[03:55] <Gourami> Nick_Hill ok let me do that
[03:55] <thoreauputic> point: I guess the beginning of the drive tends to be close to the outer edge of the disk on old disks
[03:55] <targetx> Where could I obtain smbfs support? I cannot seem to mount any samba shares
[03:56] <targetx> though it does show in /proc/filesystems
[03:56] <Nick_Hill> DonVincenzo, It appears you only have IPv6 addresses in apache.conf.
[03:56] <point> thoreauputic, i was under the impression that it was faster, because of less space for the heads to travel
[03:56] <brenner> n: ~1mb i think
[03:56] <ph8> My printer is still being a pain in the arse
[03:56] <giggsey> anyone?
[03:56] <ph8> it's an HP 1410 which i run with the 1400 drivers, as told to on the ubuntu website
[03:56] <ph8> ph8 suddenly the system thinks that the printer is 'stopped' and i can't get it out of this state
[03:56] <ph8> ph8 i've tried removing the printer and readding it, but during the addition process I can't even print a 'test page'
[03:56] <thoreauputic> point: hmm - not sure really to be quite honest
[03:56] <deeLer> alt-gr isn't working in X , any suggestions ?
[03:56] <brenner> n: well, it takes as long as a 1mb d.load for me on my dialup connection
[03:56] <ph8> erm, not sure why my nick appeared there :D
[03:56] <giggsey> because without getting a network working, I can't install gentoo
[03:56] <CookedGryphon> targetx: i'm having similar problems
[03:56] <ph8> but does anyone have any ideas on how to help me?
[03:57] <bluefrog-10> targetx, install smbfs
[03:57] <CookedGryphon> i have that already and still no go
[03:57] <targetx> omg lol :) apt-get install smbfs
[03:57] <bluefrog-10> y
[03:57] <n> is it ok to stop it cause it will eat up my quiota
[03:57] <targetx> bluefrog-10, how come it did show up in /proc/filesystems ?
[03:57] <giggsey> anyone?
[03:57] <teroedni> giggsey:TRy 5.10
[03:57] <bluefrog-10> targetx, don't know sry
[03:57] <targetx> oke, thanks for helping me out!
[03:58] <Seveas> giggsey, does this look like #gentoo?
[03:58] <sorush20> can I unlock phones using linux?
[03:58] <point> thoreauputic, a little of topic...can you recommend a decent terminal emulator, thats light on resources?
[03:58] <giggsey> teroedni, it doesn't matter what version, 5.04 was the version I had on a livecd, all I need is the same network working
[03:58] <brenner> n: 1mb left on your quota? :) if you stop it, you won't get an updated package list and therefore, probably can't install all the packages from the repo
[03:58] <DonVincenzo> Nick_Hill: xx.xxx.xxx.xx:80 is not valid ?
[03:58] <teroedni> giggsey:You cannot connect to the net right
[03:58] <Gourami> Nick_Hill failed to start the x server...
[03:58] <thoreauputic> point: yes, urxvt from the rxvt-unicode package
[03:59] <DonVincenzo> I use it as ServerName
[03:59] <giggsey> I can't connect to my network
[03:59] <teroedni> giggsey:5.10 is newer and have therefore bigger chance of eworking
[03:59] <thoreauputic> point: or aterm - but aterm doesn't do utf8
[03:59] <point> thoreauputic, great, thanks
[04:00] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, Looks like there may be a syntax error in the xorg file
[04:00] <teroedni> giggsey:why would younuse 5.04 anyway?
[04:00] <n> yes is there a way to update package like downloading from interenet and then apt-get locally or just use dpkg?
[04:00] <Gourami> Nick_Hill The VidoeRam keyword requires a number to follow it, should it be 4096 instead of "4096"
[04:00] <targetx> yay! I can finally play all the music I have on my server through SMB :) w00t
[04:00] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, Yes. Try it.
[04:01] <brenner> n: dpkg'ing locally is the most common method afaik....i've also heard of apt-zip, but that requires the comp you are gonna download the packages from to have a debian-based distro on it iirc
[04:01] <teroedni> seveas: giggsey, does this look like #gentoo?<---what dou you mean by this????
[04:01] <brenner> n: someone could possibly tell you how to set up a local repo maybe
[04:03] <giggsey> teroedni -> I know, but I went for the livecd for ubuntu for check the network details, which its meant to auto detect and connect to
[04:04] <n> btw its not merely 1MB download i just used up 55MB when i ran apt-get / apt-get update
[04:04] <giggsey> and 5.04 is the livecd I have a copy off
[04:04] <giggsey> I don't have the latest version on livecd
[04:04] <aven> hello!
[04:04] <targetx> hi
[04:05] <aven> hrm
[04:05] <Gourami> Nick_Hill problem solved
[04:05] <brenner> n: that's weird. using the pastebin's repo list....55mb is way too high.
[04:05] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, Great!
[04:06] <FaBouLoUz> er irc.tin.it 6667
[04:06] <aven> hm?
[04:06] <rodietze> how can I make my panel icons to pop when mouse pass over them? on KDE and if possible on Gnome, coz I noticed that they just glow when I pass the mouse over them :(
[04:06] <ptlo> hmm .. how can I get a list of all packages available in ubuntu? i need the list in .txt format, just looking at synaptic is not an option; apt-cache search '' seems to work, it shows around 17800 packages, could this be a real number?
[04:06] <teroedni> giggsey:You dont have a possible chance of downloading and burn 5.10?
[04:07] <highvoltage> how do i let a script run as root, when it's executed by normal users?
[04:07] <highvoltage> i know i've done it with cdrecord before, but forgot how.
[04:07] <ptlo> highvoltage: ask users to run 'sudo script'
[04:07] <Gourami> Nick_Hill is 4096 standard or could it be less or not adviseable ? reason I ask is that it still seems slower than the Hoary installation
[04:07] <thoreauputic> ptlo: dpkg -l | less
[04:07] <thoreauputic> for installed packages anyway
[04:07] <highvoltage> ptlo: i want the script to run as root.
[04:07] <highvoltage> ptlo: actually, i want apache to run it.
[04:08] <giggsey> teroedni -> and spend 5 hours downloading it whilst I know this version will work with networking...
[04:08] <ptlo> thoreauputic: that's for installed, i'd like to have a complete list of all available packages
[04:08] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, At 800x600, you could get away with 2Mb depending on colur depth, but I don't think you'll gain as much as you might loose.
[04:08] <thoreauputic> ptlo: have a dig in /var/lib/apt/lists
[04:08] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, In which case, 2048
[04:08] <brenner> ptlo: what distro?
[04:09] <ptlo> highvoltage: if you chmod +s (super-user sticky bit) and chown the script to root, it will be run under root's effective id, thus having all privileges
[04:09] <rodietze> how can I make my panel icons to pop when mouse pass over them? on KDE and if possible on Gnome, coz I noticed that they just glow when I pass the mouse over them :(
[04:09] <ptlo> brenner: breezy
[04:09] <ptlo> thoreauputic: thanks
[04:09] <teroedni> giggsey:that depends: It may be that your network is not supported in 5.04, and besides 5,04 is way more trublesome than 5.10;)
[04:09] <Gourami> Nick_Hill ultimately it will be 1280x1024 so I will just play with the numbers
[04:09] <Nick_Hill> yes
[04:09] <brenner> ptlo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/allpackages.en.txt.gz
[04:09] <ptlo> brenner: thanks!
[04:09] <giggsey> It worked on Fedora Core 4, its got nothing to do with the version of ubuntu
[04:09] <brenner> ptlo: they even gzipped it for you :)
[04:09] <giggsey> it worked whilst I was installing gentoo a month ago
[04:09] <ptlo> yes, how nice of them :)
[04:10] <Gourami> Nick_Hill one last thing, to change default depth which is 24 I just modify that line in xorg.conf and nowhere else ?
[04:11] <skullzBOFH> we
[04:11] <teroedni> yea but different dist have different ways of implenting things on and Ubuntu is much more never than gentoo after what i know, thjerefore it is recommended to get 5.10 which is the newest and is the version which have best support for hardware of all three ubuntu release;)
[04:11] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, that will do it. However, by changing xorg.conf directly, you will be disabling the Debian configuration system for X-windows.
[04:12] <giggsey> its not hardware
[04:12] <Gourami> Nick_Hill where should I change colour depth ?
[04:12] <teroedni> no exactly
[04:12] <teroedni> it is the driver;)
[04:12] <giggsey> ubuntu can read the hardware, like FC and gentoo and windows
[04:12] <ptlo> what i'm trying to do: i'l get the entire list of available packages, and ask a few friends to provide me with their lists of installed packages, so i can build a list of frequently installed packages that *aren't* in ubuntu install cd; and if many people seem to install practically the same additional packages, create a dvd with these "extras", for users that aren't on broadband and frequent apt-get install is inconvenient for them
[04:12] <giggsey> I'm trying "network settings"
[04:13] <teroedni> yes buit that doesnt help without drivers does it;)
[04:13] <giggsey> they all reconise the card
[04:13] <giggsey> gise*
[04:13] <blaise`> where can i get w32codecs for amd64 breezy ?
[04:13] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, By editing xorg.conf at all, you will disable the Debian Xwindows config system. That may be OK for you.
[04:13] <brenner> ptlo: i wonder how legal that'd be....iirc, someone did a starter CD in the past. i think (not sure) the operation was shut down
[04:14] <giggsey> damn livecd taking 20 minutes to load up "network settings"
[04:14] <brenner> teroedni: i can finally enable DMA on this laptop using the new kernel...
[04:14] <highvoltage> ptlo: thanks
[04:15] <blaise`> is there amd64 specific documentation for w32codecs ?
[04:15] <brenner> granted, it could've been done manually, but this way was much easier/nicer. :)
[04:15] <bigcx2> blaise`: there is no such thing
[04:15] <teroedni> giggsey i have some old isa network card Ubuntu sees them but cannot use them as then i need drivers;)
[04:15] <blaise`> no w32codecs for breezy amd64 ?
[04:15] <ptlo> brenner: do you remember any details about it (url/name/author)? i'd like to look it up. btw i wouldn't want to create a dvd-install of ubuntu, just a companion dvd that supplements the install, and comprised only of packages available from official ubuntu repositories - so i don't believe there would be any legal barriers to it - except for perhaps including the stuff that maybe breaks patents-copyrights (like w32codecs, or similar stuff)
[04:16] <bigcx2> no w32codecs for amd64 anything
[04:16] <teroedni> also it seem the hardware but ou still ned drivers
[04:16] <teroedni> and 5.10 have more network drivers than 5.04 so please try out 5.10
[04:16] <bluefrog-10> any1 installed webmin from tgz and having pb with the init script not being written?
[04:17] <nico_be> hi
[04:17] <brenner> ptlo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30147 ... yes, those patent-copyright sensitive packages were what i was suggesting
[04:17] <limes> anybody get 5.10 to install in virtual pc?
[04:17] <ptlo> thanks
[04:17] <bluefrog-10> !webmin
[04:17] <bigcx2> limes: you mean vmware?
[04:18] <limes> no, ms virtual pc
[04:18] <bigcx2> oh, no
[04:18] <Anjay> Hey all, I was in here last night and asked about whether Ubuntu could resize an NTFS partition. I was told it could, but that it could not format it. Therefore from this I gather if I used Ubuntu to resize my NFTS partition, it wouldn't be able to install itself on the one part of this? Cheers.
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> holy
[04:18] <giggsey> Anjay, afaik it could
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> limes, you speak of the unholy software
[04:19] <teroedni> lol
[04:19] <giggsey> because resizing it would leave HDD free space, and then you just create a new partition
[04:19] <brenner> ptlo: reading that, it seems like it
[04:19] <brenner> * is still active
[04:19] <teroedni> limes:Doesnt you have support on your product?
[04:20] <brenner> and the link still works
[04:20] <highvoltage> ptlo: the file is owned by root, and has +s, but doesn't execute. any ideas?
[04:20] <limes> teroedni, support for my product? ms doesn't support installing linux using vpc
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> highvoltage, you need +x not +s
[04:20] <limes> but vpc.visualwin.com says you're able to
[04:20] <Anjay> giggsey: So Ubuntu should be able to make my two NTFS partitions smaller and then install Ubuntu in the free space (not forgetting the SWAP partition)?
[04:20] <gypsymauro> hello
[04:21] <thoreauputic> Anjay: correct
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> highvoltage, and sudo
[04:21] <teroedni> limes:thats suck:(
[04:21] <teroedni> limes: Have you tried installing?
[04:21] <Anjay> thoreauputic: Thanks. Great news. :)
[04:21] <limes> teroedni, installing what
[04:21] <gypsymauro> there are some extra iso CD? where to find other packages that aren't on the official CD..(for ppl that doesn't have xDSL)
[04:22] <teroedni> limes:Ubuntu 5.10
[04:22] <limes> teroedni, uh, i am trying to install 5.10
[04:22] <limes> when i start the install, it kernel panics
[04:22] <[A] ndy80> I've fixed a bug in MySQL Browser package shipped with ubuntu: mysql-admin search for mysql-query-browser-bin when you want to edit tables, while mysql-query-browser is installed. I made a symbolic link to it and it got fixed!
[04:22] <thoreauputic> Anjay: if you have the live CD you could fire that up and use the gparted program to resize and partition as well
[04:22] <Gourami> Nick_Hill thanks for all the help, appreciate it
[04:23] <teroedni> ahh
[04:23] <highvoltage> wickedpuppy: i need this script to execute from a cgi page, so it runs as user www-data
[04:23] <point> *, trying to rid myself of openoffice...it states ( and by it i mean synpatic ) that i will remove ubuntu-desktop aswell, i heard of a force option for apt, but also heard that it's not so safe to use...anyone shead some light on this subject, thanks
[04:23] <thoreauputic> Anjay: if you are more comfortable with a graphical app gparted does well
[04:23] <highvoltage> wickedpuppy: so sudo won't help me much :/
[04:23] <teroedni> i really hope you not payed for ...
[04:23] <limes> teroedni, nah, school gives vpc out for free ;p
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> oh cgi ... well then i have no idea
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> :P
[04:23] <thoreauputic> point: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[04:24] <Anjay> thoreauputic: Thanks for that. So gparted should work well then?
[04:24] <ptlo> gypsymauro: we're just talking about that, there was companion cd for hoary that contained some extra packages....
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> limes, return and ask for refund :P
[04:24] <thoreauputic> point: quite safe to remove
[04:24] <teroedni> lime::)
[04:24] <limes> i didn't pay for it :P
[04:24] <teroedni> :P
[04:24] <sproingie> point: openoffice is part of ubuntu-desktop, so if you remove it, you break u-d.  since nothing new will be added to u-d in the stable branch, it's quite safe to remove it
[04:24] <thoreauputic> Anjay: yes, worked here anyway ;)
[04:24] <gypsymauro> ptlo: and for breezy?:)
[04:24] <Nick_Hill> Gourami, np, I have written a mini-howto..
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> limes, do yaself a favour .. don't touch that evil stuff ...
[04:24] <thoreauputic> Anjay: have a look at it on the live CD - it's in the menus
[04:24] <point> Great, thanks
[04:25] <deeLer> startx seems to work, but xdm doesn't , what  could this be ?
[04:25] <point> ^_^
[04:25] <thoreauputic> Anjay: for breezy that is
[04:25] <limes> sorry, but i don't have the money for vmware
[04:25] <deeLer> xdm just return without errors
[04:25] <Nick_Hill> !i845 breezy
[04:25] <deeLer> any ideas?
[04:25] <Nick_Hill> !i845 breezy
[04:25] <ptlo> gypsymauro: there's no such extra cd/dvd as of yet, sorry :( , but hopefully it will "soon" (where 'soon' is a really relative term :)
[04:25] <sproingie> limes: qemu is free
[04:25] <Anjay> thoreauputic: Ok thanks for that - I'll give it a look and try it out. Here's to hoping! :D
[04:25] <viller> hi
[04:25] <sun_> what's the command of "d-i"
[04:25] <gypsymauro> ptlo: I hope that too:)
[04:26] <limes> sproingie, i'll check it out, thanks
[04:26] <viller> how to change a folders permissions so that i change the permissions of all the files inside at the same time?
[04:26] <thoreauputic> Anjay: partitioning is always a "take a deep breath" experience ;-) Make sure you have backups!
[04:26] <limes> point taken.
[04:26] <digits> What's special about Ubuntu? I've only tried it for a brief time, and too me it looks like a debian wich installs Gnome by default... (don't start flaming now, just curious)
[04:27] <thoreauputic> viller: chmod -R
[04:27] <n> im trying to run ethereal as root but its been ahiwle and forgotten the password for it, its not the same as the OS (Ubuntu) root password is there a way to recover this from some directory since i am the root user anyway?
[04:27] <limes> digits, it a hell of a lot less hassle to setup.
[04:27] <Anjay> thoreauputic: Yes, I know what you mean, heh. Yup got everything I need backed up - so shouldn't be any worries there.
[04:27] <sproingie> digits: that's basically what ubuntu is.  it cycles faster than debian, since it cuts a new release every 6 months
[04:27] <thoreauputic> viller: but be careful with recursive chmods
[04:28] <digits> limes, sproingie: ok :)
[04:28] <mpt> Does anyone know why the default /etc/apt/sources.list has security updates and major bug fixes *off*?
[04:28] <deeLer> startx seems to work, but xdm doesn't , what  could this be ?
[04:28] <deeLer> xdm just return without errors
[04:28] <Nick_Hill> limes, Ubuntu uses the new Debian installer
[04:28] <deeLer> any ideas?
[04:28] <viller> thoreauputic: what are recursive chmods?
[04:28] <sproingie> Nick_Hill: so does the new debian ;)
[04:29] <Nick_Hill> sproingie, Quite so
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> chmod -R
[04:29] <teroedni> limes: Join #chat
[04:29] <thoreauputic> viller:  chmod -R changes permissions recursively  - which is what you were asking
[04:29] <Gourami> Nick_Hill nice :)
[04:29] <thoreauputic> viller: i.e. it changes all files/ directories
[04:29] <sproingie> if you're comfortable with the bleeding edge, running debian unstable will give you all the same debian goodness as ubuntu and even more packages.  not everyone wants to deal with that though
[04:29] <thoreauputic> in the dir you specify
[04:30] <thoreauputic> viller: it's esy to break your system with chmod if you aren't careful
[04:31] <thoreauputic> *easy
[04:32] <viller> thoreauputic: could you give an example of the command with a directory
[04:32] <thoreauputic> deeLer: sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start
[04:32] <n> how do i uninstall a program in ubuntu? thanks
[04:32] <viller> it says too few arguments and i don't know what to put in the mode space
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> n , use synaptic or dpkg -r
[04:33] <thoreauputic> viller: I could, but I suggest if you want to i=use the command it would be an idea to look at the man page :)
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> or apt-get ... a lot of ways really ... how you installed it ?
[04:33] <thoreauputic> viller: permissions are a whole subject in themselves
[04:33] <ekimus> does anyone know if the cloop filesystem stuff has been ported to other unices (namely openbsd). or if there is some user space implementation?
[04:33] <thoreauputic> viller: do you understand *nix permissions?
[04:34] <bluefrog-10> any1 installed webmin from tgz and could help me, pls? having pb with the init script not being written?
[04:34] <OneSeventeen> is it possible to make plugging in a USB drive trigger a shell script or something?  (I want to be ablet to plug in a USB stick and have it automatically copy a specific file over, then disconnect the drive)
[04:34] <thoreauputic> !tell n about docs
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> bluefrog-10, there is webmin in synaptic repo ...
[04:34] <viller> thoreauputic: unix permissions? if i right click properties they look exactly the same as an ftp server thingie
[04:34] <DonVincenzo> what is the apt-get command to completely remove application and their configuration files ?
[04:34] <koala_man> OneSeventeen: udev could
[04:34] <flogiston> Hi I accidently set up to start multiple GUI in vlc.
[04:35] <bluefrog-10> wickedpuppy, ye but not latest
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> DonVincenzo, man apt-get
[04:35] <flogiston> Now the program crashes.
[04:35] <thoreauputic> n: you might also find help.ubuntu.com a good place to visit
[04:35] <thoreauputic> viller: yes, ftp servers usually use *nix permissions
[04:35] <flogiston> A complete removal and reinstallation won't help.
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> bluefrog-10, you want the latest issit ? webmin got very good documentation ... you should read README or INSTALL
[04:35] <bluefrog-10> wickedpuppy, but indeed will be going to see how it writes the script..
[04:35] <DonVincenzo> wickedpuppy: :-)I do not have yt this habit, thanks
[04:36] <viller> thoreauputic: can you then please give me an example
[04:36] <OneSeventeen> koala_man: thanks, man'ing udev now
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> DonVincenzo, cheers :P
[04:36] <point> *, been reading up on, and learning python...is this a good choice for the linux platform? my goals and motives include: better understand the OS, and it's internal functions, among other things.
[04:36] <sproingie> point: python won't teach you a thing about unix
[04:36] <thoreauputic> viller:  well say   chmod -R 644 directoryname
[04:36] <point> -.-
[04:37] <viller> thoreauputic: thank you
[04:37] <thoreauputic> viller: but that would be a bad move as all subdirs would be inaccessible
[04:37] <sproingie> point: as for better understanding the OS, is this from a user point of view, an admin, or a programmer?
[04:37] <thoreauputic> viller: that's why you need to understand what the numbers mean
[04:37] <n> i just installed an application and it didn't ask me to set any password. but when i run it as root it asks me for password i was thinking it owuld be the same as the root password but its not... hmm anyone encountered same problem before?
[04:37] <point> sproingie, programmer
[04:37] <viller> thoreauputic: i just put 777 :D
[04:37] <sproingie> point: you want to learn C then
[04:38] <flogiston> VLC crashes when using multiple GUI. so i cant change it back.
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> point, good at python makes you a good python programmer ... nothing to do with linux
[04:38] <thoreauputic> viller: depending on th edirectory that can break things spectacularly
[04:38] <viller> thoreauputic: where do i learn what do the numbers mean?
[04:38] <sproingie> python in fact is probably more useful for windows admin stuff than linux
[04:38] <thoreauputic> viller: *sigh* - I told you about an hour ago
[04:39] <digits> thoreauputic: man chmod
[04:39] <thoreauputic> viller: type  man chmod
[04:39] <digits> duh,
[04:39] <n> help! :-)
[04:39] <sproingie> perl does all the text-munging stuff that unix wants, python scripts COM objects, the way windows wants
[04:39] <viller> thoreauputic: i just need it for documents, i had to reinstall ubuntu and now i copied my documents back from the windows partition
[04:39] <sproingie> you can script com objects in perl, but the syntax is pretty yacksome
[04:39] <viller> thoreauputic: sorry i didn't know what was man pages before
[04:40] <thoreauputic> viller: ah OK :)
[04:40] <point> sproingie, hmm, as much as i hate saying this...i come from windows and visual basic...so it makes me very unclear
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> point, you wanna know linux ... get dirty and learn C
[04:40] <thoreauputic> viller: if it's in you home directory 777 is OK although not a good security idea - also it makes *everything* executable
[04:41] <thoreauputic> /s/you/your
[04:41] <william_> hey can I turn off the animation of minimizing and maximizing?
[04:41] <sproingie> point: well, for programming windows, python is sort of a better visual basic.  for programming unix, you gotta learn C.  unix has no single system programming model like windows apps do, so when you want to get at the OS, you do it in C
[04:41] <bluefrog-10> wickedpuppy, fo info, webmin can't install init script (even though the dir its looking for are created and w by everybody) so I just take the init script from the tgz and put it in /etc/init.d
[04:42] <limes> is there a way to install in text mode?
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> bluefrog-10, does it appear in documentation ?
[04:42] <Ninjew> Is there a command-line util that I can use to manage my /etc/rc*.d symlinks, ala rc-update in gentoo?
[04:42] <bluefrog-10> wickedpuppy, no
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> bluefrog-10, i installed the usual way .. synaptic so i didn't realise the problem
[04:42] <point> sproingie, i was looking for the right motivation to start C..this just may be it
[04:42] <thoreauputic> Ninjew: rcconf
[04:42] <viller> thoreauputic: is 770 ok?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> viller: better
[04:43] <avalost> !win32codecs
[04:43] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, avalost
[04:43] <viller> ok i'm leaving now
[04:43] <viller> bye
[04:43] <avalost> !w32codecs
[04:43] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[04:43] <Ninjew> thoreauputic: thanks :)
[04:43] <iiiears> avalost you can find them at sourceforge
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> there go someone who got the fish but never learn how to fish
[04:43] <thoreauputic> Ninjew: also see man update-rc.d
[04:43] <iiiears> ah - even better.
[04:44] <sproingie> point: C is not a lot of fun at all, it feels like only a couple steps above assembly language.  but it's what unix and windows are both written in, so you may as well learn int
[04:44] <sproingie> s/int/it/
[04:44] <bluefrog-10> wickedpuppy, does the webmin from synaptic has the right path for modules configuration?
[04:44] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[04:44] <Ninjew> thoreauputic: thanks again, update-rc.d is more along the lines of wha tim looking for :)
[04:44] <iiiears> << Fortran impersonator. - lol
[04:44] <thoreauputic> Ninjew: yw :)
[04:44] <wickedpuppy> bluefrog-10, yup ... its tested after all ...
[04:44] <civi> whats the rule of indexing partitions by grub ?
[04:44] <civi> how to check which partition hd0 from it is
[04:45] <civi> hd0,0 i mean
[04:45] <Doktoreas> re
[04:45] <wickedpuppy> sproingie, eh ah C is fun ...
[04:45] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:45] <Doktoreas> guys apt-get ubuntu-desktop will install all ubuntu desktop?
[04:45] <Seveas> Doktoreas, yes
[04:45] <thoreauputic> civi: in grub, a=0 and 1 becomes 0 for the first partition
[04:46] <sproingie> wickedpuppy: for some masochistic definition of fun.  C++ with a garbage collector is tolerable.  straight C is like sorting sand with tweezers
[04:46] <iiiears> sproingie - zenity and perl make life much eeasier.
[04:46] <thoreauputic> civi: so (0,0) is  hda1
[04:46] <Seveas> iiiears, sproingie, please take progeamming language discussions to the -offtopic chan
[04:46] <Megzlna> With Ubuntu: Can I download a package to my desktop.. a package that will run on any version of Ubuntu... Double click on it, and install it?
[04:46] <Seveas> Megzlna, no, packages are built for a specific verion of Ubuntu
[04:46] <Megzlna> ok, later
[04:47] <Seveas> and you don't need to manually download things...
[04:47] <thoreauputic> Megzlna: use the synaptic package manager
[04:47] <point> -.-"
[04:47] <Doktoreas> Seveas: but not app like xchat,OOo, ecc..
[04:47] <Doktoreas> ?
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Doktoreas: yes, it will
[04:48] <Doktoreas> i'll explain.. i am making a live distro
[04:48] <Doktoreas> to run some software
[04:48] <civi> thoreauputic: ok, thanks
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Doktoreas: and it's   sudo apt-get install <package>   :)
[04:48] <bluefrog-10> wickedpuppy, it's tested ok but with what? dhcp module not looking for breezy dhcp3 path. I'll stick to latest as I will have to modify the modules in any case. ty for helping
[04:48] <Doktoreas> how can i have a base ubuntu installation?
[04:48] <civi> thats pretty logical, but its good to be sure :)
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Doktoreas: use the server install
[04:49] <Doktoreas> i can only use apt-get command
[04:49] <thoreauputic> Doktoreas: just type ' server" at the prompt
[04:49] <labluez> good morning....how do I configure my media reader on my laptop..it is one of those built in five and one readers
[04:49] <labluez> I put a SD stick in and it doesn't mount or read
[04:49] <Doktoreas> to get package i'll put in livedistro
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> bluefrog-10, no prob .. for specific distro wise , i don't think webmi will be working on it
[04:50] <labluez> hello?
[04:51] <labluez> can anyone help me?
[04:52] <[Spooky] > labluez: with ?
[04:52] <limes> a non mounting sd card
[04:52] <labluez> configuring the media readr
[04:52] <n3t0> how i can remove the usplash on 5.10 boot.. i want the boot on text mode
[04:52] <n3t0> only
[04:53] <sproingie> n3t0: apt-get remove usplash
[04:54] <n3t0> thanks
[04:54] <labluez> any ideas?
[04:56] <DonVincenzo> When I try to install apache2, it says: it looks like you've deleted /etc/apache2/mods-available/cgi.load, so cgi can not be enabled.  To fix this, please purge and reinstall apache2-common, what do they mean by purge ?
[04:57] <NoUse> DonVincenzo I think its in the apt-get man page but I think its apt-get remove --purge apache2-common
[04:58] <skullzBOFH> we
[05:00] <DonVincenzo> thanks NoUse
[05:00] <blaise-> i'm having some trouble reading ntfs drives as a user account on a fresh install of ubuntu breezy amd64.  my fstab for one ntfs partition is the following, it appears, on my desktop.. but says no permission to access.  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    auto,users,gid=users,umask=0007     0       0
[05:00] <labluez> I kind of feel like I am being ignored here
[05:01] <highvoltage> how do i specify a password to sudo in a script?
[05:01] <highvoltage> without any user interaction?
[05:01] <nalioth> highvoltage: have your script run as a system script
[05:01] <martii> labluez: what media reader ?
[05:01] <amarock> there aint many users around....no one is intentionally ignored  btw
[05:01] <martii> labluez: is it supported by linux ?
[05:01] <labluez> I have a built in media reader
[05:02] <labluez> not sure if it is supported
[05:02] <martii> labluez: IDE ?
[05:02] <blaise-> can anyone see where i am going wrong with /etc/fstab ?
[05:02] <labluez> I think so
[05:02] <martii> labluez: so you will have to mount it manually I think
[05:02] <labluez> where do I find it?
[05:02] <martii> labluez: or might not work (hotswap problems)
[05:02] <riverside> highvoltage: I'm not sure if you can do that - you may need to enable the root account and run the script as root
[05:03] <riverside> it's being run from a crontab presumably?
[05:03] <martii> labluez: check what dmesg says when you put SD card in
[05:03] <labluez> dmesg? I am new at this
[05:03] <highvoltage> nalioth: what do you mean?
[05:04] <martii> labluez: run terminal
[05:04] <martii> type dmesg
[05:04] <doubletwist> blaise- I've always had to set it so that one specific user had rights to read the ntfs partition [uid=username,gid=usergroup] 
[05:04] <martii> and check output
[05:04] <NoUse> highvoltage you can also configure sudo to allow certain commands to be run without a password
[05:04] <NoUse> highvoltage in /etc/sudoers
[05:05] <robertbb> How do I specify an application to use by default to open a certain file type?
[05:05] <labluez> doesn't anything about it
[05:05] <labluez> ran dmesg
[05:05] <labluez> took out card
[05:05] <labluez> ran dmesg
[05:05] <labluez> put card back in
[05:05] <labluez> ran dmesg
[05:05] <doubletwist> But I don't have ntfs on my machine anymore so I can't test out your ntfs options.
[05:05] <labluez> looked same
[05:06] <adam_r> Hi there is there by chance a webpage outlining how to setup a USB adsl modem in Ubuntu
[05:06] <Aphax-> hi
[05:06] <doubletwist> I'm so glad none of my dsl providers ever sent me a usb modem
[05:06] <Aphax-> I would just like to say that Ubuntu is cool
[05:06] <adam_r> i had no choice... thats all they offer
[05:07] <adam_r> its adsl+2 compatible though that will be handy when they upgrade my local exchange
[05:07] <Seveas> usb was never meant for networking...
[05:08] <adam_r> well they decided it should be apparentley
[05:08] <psusi> is anyone else here running the amd64 build of breezy?  could you check how much memory clock-applet is using according to system monitor?
[05:08] <adam_r> usb is to slow for real networkign isnt it
[05:08] <nalioth> highvoltage: make your script belong to the system and make it executable by users
[05:08] <psusi> adam_r: it can't be used for real networking, it is a master/slave protocol
[05:08] <psusi> you can't connect a master to a master
[05:08] <labluez> any ideas martii
[05:08] <Swearingen> hi hi
[05:09] <Swearingen> got a question
[05:09] <highvoltage> nalioth: how do i make it "belong to the system"?
[05:09] <adam_r> i mean they make usb ehternet devices
[05:09] <adam_r> so its converting ethernet into usb
[05:09] <psusi> adam_r: oh, yea... that's kind of silly
[05:09] <nalioth> highvoltage: go to /usr/bin/bash  and right click on it, select properties and monkey see monkey do on the permissions
[05:09] <highvoltage> NoUse: I think the sudo option is best, I've added the user to sudoers, how do i disable it asking for passwd?
[05:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell highvoltage about cli
[05:09] <psusi> I mean, I guess it isn't THAT bad if you have usb2
[05:09] <Swearingen> why is it sometimes I get monitor refresh speeds of 60,75,85... but most of the time there's only 60 to choose from
[05:09] <psusi> but still.... it's kind of silly...
[05:10] <highvoltage> nalioth: this pc doesn't have gnome installed :)
[05:10] <Aphax-> test
[05:10] <adam_r> Swearingen, its becasey thats all your videocard / monitor can handle
[05:10] <nalioth> highvoltage: does it have any gui installed?
[05:10] <highvoltage> nalioth: no
[05:10] <doubletwist> highvoltage use NOPASSWD in the sudoers file...
[05:10] <adam_r> at higher resolutions it has lower refresh rates
[05:10] <Swearingen> adam_r: on the same machine, changing from boot to boot?
[05:10] <nalioth> highvoltage: then "ls -a /bin/bash" and see it that way.
[05:10] <adam_r> yes.. you have a magic monitor
[05:11] <Swearingen> adam_r: heh
[05:11] <highvoltage> doubletwist: in which field should I put NOPASSWD
[05:11] <highvoltage> nalioth: i can see /bin/bash, what's the point of that :)
[05:11] <sizzam> im trying to make a shortcut on my desktop that opens Gmail in Firefox.   why cant i figure this out lol
[05:11] <adam_r> i cant stand 60hz, i can see the monitor flicker and refresh so much it makes me literaly sick
[05:12] <Swearingen> adam_r: I'm old school X, where does Xorg specify the drivers?
[05:12] <nalioth> highvoltage: i apologize, i just woke up
[05:12] <highvoltage> sizzam: have you tried an launcher with command "mozilla-firefox http://www.gmail.com" ?
[05:12] <highvoltage> nalioth: ok.
[05:12] <doubletwist> highvoltage: username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
[05:12] <adam_r> so i cant run highest res... i should of forked out $$$ for better hardware
[05:12] <bur[n] er> Swearingen: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:12] <highvoltage> doubletwist: thank you!
[05:12] <Swearingen> adam_r: I agree
[05:12] <psusi> is anyone else here running the amd64 build of breezy?  could you check how much memory clock-applet is using according to system monitor?
[05:12] <Swearingen> bur[n] er: thanks
[05:12] <sizzam> highvoltage:  that works, thanks
[05:13] <adam_r> falocking IE is stuck at 44%...
[05:13] <nalioth> highvoltage: basically, make system the owner of your script and give group and users read and execute permissions
[05:14] <adam_r> interesting, right clicking the setup window made it work again
[05:14] <adam_r> i stop using windows to install a windows emulator in linux, does it make sense?
[05:15] <doubletwist> adam_r Unless you are gaming it should work just fine.
[05:15] <adam_r> gaming...
[05:15] <doubletwist> I gave up windows completely at home...
[05:15] <doubletwist> Even my gaming is just in linux. No linux client, I don't buy the game.
[05:16] <adam_r> what about big budget blockbuster games
[05:16] <doubletwist> adam_r What about them? Quake 4 has a linux client. Bought it...
[05:17] <MenZa`> cryo: I think this track is just you
[05:17] <doubletwist> Amazingly most of the games I like to play have linux clients. [Ok, a couple I had to install Cedega for] 
[05:17] <MenZa`> Wrong chan.
[05:17] <adam_r> is cedega free
[05:17] <nosilver4u> no, it's not
[05:17] <doubletwist> adam_r Nope
[05:17] <adam_r> didnt think so
[05:18] <doubletwist> But I have native linux installs of Quake 2, Quake 3, Quake 4, UT2004, Neverwinter Nights, Serious Sam:TSE [and hopefully soon Serious Sam 2] 
[05:18] <doubletwist> Doom3
[05:18] <adam_r> quake and doom3 have linux versions?
[05:18] <doubletwist> yeah
[05:18] <adam_r> interesting
[05:19] <bur[n] er> adam_r: cedega == $15
[05:19] <doubletwist> I use cedega for Diablo 2 [can't give that up] , and Half-Life 2 & its mods.
[05:19] <bur[n] er> not an arm and a leg
[05:19] <nosilver4u> hey all, i'm trying to figure out how to install ubuntu on a thinkpad 240 which has no cd-rom or floppy, would it work to pop the hdd into another computer for the install process, or does anyone else have any ideas?
[05:20] <doubletwist> I don't actually use ubuntu for my main desktop though.
[05:20] <bur[n] er> nosilver4u: that would work to pop it over... otherwise network boot?  or boot via usb?
[05:20] <adam_r> $15 us = $25 aud i suspose
[05:20] <nosilver4u> it won't do usb
[05:20] <adam_r> very reasonable
[05:20] <doubletwist> Didn't realize it had any effect on openGL performance.
[05:21] <doubletwist> nosilver4u Yes its possible to do it that way.
[05:21] <nosilver4u> and i have no idea how to do a network boot
[05:21] <adam_r> installing it on another computer woulnt be to good
[05:21] <bur[n] er> nosilver4u: pop it over then ;)
[05:21] <adam_r> hardware detecthin
[05:21] <adam_r> network boot would be bettery
[05:21] <bur[n] er> eh... linux is good with working with different hardware :)
[05:21] <NoUse> nosilver4u if you look on wiki.ubuntu.com and search for installation there are some instructions for funky installtion setups
[05:21] <bur[n] er> might have to do some tweaking to get X to work though
[05:21] <doubletwist> As long as the other machines hardware isn't too far different, but unline windows it can handle being put in another machine... :)
[05:21] <nosilver4u> but ubuntu should autodetect the new hardware, right?
[05:22] <nosilver4u> so X should be my only hangup, eh?
[05:22] <doubletwist> nosilver4u at most you might have to manually add a few modules to /etc/modules
[05:22] <nosilver4u> i can probably pull the current config file off there
[05:22] <bur[n] er> nosilver4u: probably... possibly sound &/or network too
[05:23] <nosilver4u> it should all be pretty well supported, since it's running suse 7.3 right now
[05:23] <nosilver4u> network will be all automatic with a dlink pcmcia card
[05:24] <bur[n] er> nosilver4u: then go for it already ;)
[05:24] <nosilver4u> okie, i'm gonna try it
[05:24] <simbad> I copied all files from a UbuntuCD (breezy) to hd and I am trying now to install ubuntu via grub (I have noCD-Drive or Floppy). I used ther kernel options root=/dev/hda7 (<-- Location of installCD-files) but it doesnt work. Any hints?
[05:24] <doubletwist> simbad I may be wrong, but I don't think thats going to work.
[05:25] <adam_r> itunes doesnt work with wine?
[05:25] <bur[n] er> doubletwist: he said it doesn't ;)
[05:25] <Nick_Hill> simbad, The files you copied, are they .deb ?
[05:25] <adam_r> australia just got itunes store... i want to check it out
[05:25] <bur[n] er> adam_r: works with crossover office... somewhat
[05:25] <doubletwist> hehe I know, but I mean a few hints isn't going to make it work either :)
[05:25] <bur[n] er> bleh, itunes store is crap
[05:25] <bur[n] er> emusic is cooler ;)
[05:25] <blaise-> i had the same problem when i modifed my partition table from xfs to ext2 for /boot it rearranged my partitioning names, next boot, all went smooth
[05:25] <bur[n] er> itunes files are DRMed
[05:25] <doubletwist> bur[n] er It's really easy to remove the drm on itunes files.
[05:25] <adam_r> yeah but people have cracked it
[05:25] <blaise-> s/boot/install (grub)
[05:25] <psusi> anyone here running amd64 breezy?
[05:25] <simbad> Nick_Hill: No, I took the files from the .iso-image (not the iso-image itself). I get a kernelpanic when trying to boot the vmlinuz from the boot-cd
[05:26] <bur[n] er> doubletwist: adam_r: but why support that DRM culture when other viable options are available?
[05:26] <blaise-> psusi i am using breezy amd64
[05:26] <adam_r> because they are reasonable with there drm?
[05:26] <adam_r> unlike others
[05:26] <doubletwist> bur[n] er Well, I don't. The only files I've downloaded from itunes were either free demos or when I got a pepsi cap with a free song code.
[05:26] <psusi> blaise-: could you check in system monitor how much ram clock-applet is using?
[05:27] <blaise-> sure
[05:27] <doubletwist> And I will agree with adam_r. I'd prefer no DRM, but itunes is fairly liberal with what their drm allows.
[05:27] <bur[n] er> they are reasonable? #1 they don't support linux  #2 it's a pain in the ass
[05:27] <Nick_Hill> simbad, To get that anywhere near working, you would need to copy a workable root file system to the drive. The install CDs don't contain that.
[05:27] <adam_r> linux is a minority
[05:27] <bur[n] er> emusic gives out mp3s with no DRM and a good bitrate
[05:28] <bur[n] er> a minority I'm a part of :)
[05:28] <blaise-> clock-applet 113.0 MiB
[05:28] <adam_r> yeah me too
[05:28] <aikon> hi @ all
[05:28] <aikon> are there any germans???
[05:28] <bur[n] er> maybe if apple released itunes for linux I'd sing a different tune... but probably not ;)
[05:28] <psusi> blaise-: ok, I'm not the only one then :)
[05:29] <simbad> Nick_Hill: thats a good argument :-(
[05:29] <NoUse> !de
[05:29] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[05:29] <bur[n] er> i would contemplate getting an iPod over a Creative Zen though ;)
[05:29] <aikon> #ubuntu-de
[05:29] <aikon> ups
[05:29] <aikon> thx
[05:29] <doubletwist> I'm happy with my iRiver...
[05:29] <adam_r> i think the apple company is very good ish ism
[05:30] <adam_r> i have a elcheapo iriver
[05:30] <simbad> Does anyone know of bootstrap for installation for Ubuntu?
[05:30] <bur[n] er> adam_r: they are the epitome of closed source... even closed hardware
[05:30] <psusi> simbad: huh?
[05:31] <Nick_Hill> Whether someone feels today Apple is a good company, does not make me feel happier that they may control my experience of music.
[05:31] <Unreal_IX> anyone know what causes a segmentation fault? I keep getting it when trying to run the Modeler emulator
[05:31] <psusi> bur[n] er: they aren't, they are worse: they also monopolize the hardware
[05:31] <NoUse> bur[n] er their closed source software works
[05:31] <william_> anyonje have any experience installing gimpshop under Ubuntu?
[05:31] <adam_r> yeah IBM wanted that too didnt they
[05:31] <bur[n] er> psusi: agreed
[05:31] <psusi> Unreal_IX: buggy program
[05:31] <adam_r> but they Reversed engineered it
[05:31] <simbad> psusi: forget my last message :-)
[05:31] <NoUse> adam_r they did in the 80s, now they are all about selling services
[05:31] <Unreal_IX> it worked fine in hoary 5.04 though
[05:31] <alexandros> has anyone had a issue with opera not being able to find java?
[05:31] <william_> When I install programs not on synaptic, do I go for Debian Packages?
[05:31] <Nick_Hill> Unreal_IX, program trying to write to memory it has no business with.
[05:32] <bur[n] er> william_: i wouldn't if you don't want problems
[05:32] <bur[n] er> william_: u have universe repositories?
[05:32] <adam_r> oh well
[05:32] <Nick_Hill> william_, There is a difference between ubuntu .deb and Debian .deb
[05:32] <william_> ahh
[05:33] <william_> yeah I have universe and multiverse
[05:33] <william_> Im looking to install Gimpshop
[05:33] <Unreal_IX> also can I switch my bpp on the fly from 24 to 16?
[05:33] <Nick_Hill> william_, The file format etc is the same, but they may be linked with different library versions, deifferent dependencies etc
[05:33] <bur[n] er> william_: source?
[05:34] <adam_r> how do i run xp only programs in wine
[05:34] <bur[n] er> william_: it's worth a shot with gimpshop .debs though... u can always remove it ;)
[05:34] <william_> lol I dont know enough to experiement
[05:34] <Nick_Hill> william_, I strongly recommend you don't go down a route of manually downloading any debs. Always let your package manager do it for you.
[05:34] <doubletwist> You could use the source deb maybe.
[05:34] <bur[n] er> adam_r: wine blah.exe
[05:34] <william_> I didnt see it for Synaptic
[05:34] <bur[n] er> Nick_Hill: some are ok though... ie, opera ;)
[05:35] <william_> surprised no-one has done it for ubuntu
[05:35] <Nick_Hill> william_, If you need something not listed on your package manager, look for a repository which might have it, then add it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:35] <adam_r> but it says "please install windows xp to run this program"
[05:35] <william_> ok
[05:35] <doubletwist> I think what would be neat [if it doesn't already exist]  is a package manager that uses solely the deb source packages and compiles them. Kind of a gentoo/ports system for debian/ubuntu.
[05:35] <Nick_Hill> bur[n] er, In which case, you are probably talking about binary non-free. programs. I avoid these.
[05:36] <markybob> i've got a bit of a problem. my gnome panel has gone blank and i cant click on it or do anything with it.  killing it makes it come back in that same state.  restarting x did nothing.  i removed .gconf .gconfd .gnome .gnome2 and it still comes back crippled.  i've removed it, purged it and reinstalled it.  no go.  any ideas?
[05:36] <bur[n] er> Nick_Hill: sometimes
[05:36] <nalioth> william_: http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/
[05:36] <doubletwist> Something like 'apt-source install whatever' and it will download all the source packages and dependancies and compile them.
[05:37] <bur[n] er> markybob: try with a different user?
[05:37] <william_> yeah thats what Ive got up but do I dare follow the instructions?
[05:37] <markybob> bur[n] er, that works.  i've even created a new home dir and changed this user's home dir in /etc/passwd to point to the new, clean home dir.  that doesnt work.
[05:37] <markybob> bur[n] er, i need this user to work, though.
[05:38] <Seveas> doubletwist, that exists...
[05:38] <Nick_Hill> markybob, if no-one can help on that here, you might like to try #gnome
[05:38] <bur[n] er> markybob: possibly some applet is b0rking it... or evolution?
[05:38] <Seveas> apt-get -b source blah
[05:38] <bur[n] er> markybob: evolution hooks into the clock-applet which could be an issue?
[05:38] <Seveas> but it's completely useless
[05:38] <sauron_the_mad> "short" question: hot to update a non-smp-kernel to a smp?
[05:38] <psusi> sauron_the_mad: install the smp kernel package
[05:38] <Seveas> sauron_the_mad, apt-get install linux-686-smp
[05:39] <Seveas> reboot
[05:39] <bur[n] er> markybob: I'm assuming if you did "mv ~/.* ~/tmp" things would work
[05:39] <Seveas> done :)
[05:39] <nalioth> william_: that is a very good howto
[05:39] <markybob> bur[n] er, i assumed the same.  no.  :-)
[05:39] <william_> okay, I will try
[05:39] <sergej> Hi i have a problem, my fonts in GTK2 are very small. Can somebody help me?
[05:39] <william_> do you think it could break anything
[05:39] <sauron_the_mad> thnx seveas
[05:39] <bur[n] er> markybob: purge yourself of your current username... start a new life as "newusername" ;)
[05:40] <bur[n] er> sergej: System -> Preferences -> fonts
[05:40] <markybob> bur[n] er, it's not my box.  it's a work box
[05:40] <sergej> no that is not the problem
[05:40] <bur[n] er> markybob: i was kidding to some extent anyway ;)  If it works with another user though, it's gotta work with yours... probably a config or maybe even a permissions problem?
[05:40] <sergej> not my gnome fonts
[05:41] <william_> nalioth, do you think it could break anything?
[05:41] <bur[n] er> i can't belive "mv ~/.* ~/tmp" doesn't work
[05:41] <bur[n] er> sergej: u said gtk2 fonts... thats where gtk2 fonts are adjusted
[05:41] <nalioth> william_: the only think i recommend is that you use "checkinstall" isntead of "make install"
[05:41] <nalioth> william_: and i dont send folks URLs that are harmful
[05:42] <markybob> bur[n] er, not even a new home dir for the same user worked
[05:42] <william_> haha okay, just checking thank you nalioth
[05:42] <Nick_Hill> markybob, Will it work for a different user?
[05:42] <markybob> Nick_Hill, yes
[05:42] <markybob> which boggles my mind
[05:42] <bur[n] er> mine too markybob ;)
[05:42] <Nick_Hill> markybob, Have you rebooted / cleaned out /tmp
[05:43] <markybob> yes.
[05:43] <nalioth> william_: if you are not familiar with checkinstall, you should be, it makes your self compiled programs easier to track
[05:43] <GURT> how can i listen to m4a files in rhythmbox?
[05:43] <sergej> the fonts are only in xmms and mplayer so very small
[05:43] <Nick_Hill> markybob, How about moving everything from the user's home directory, then seeing if it works. If so, move half back, and so on?
[05:44] <nalioth> GURT: you need gstreamer0.8-faad and -faac, i believe
[05:44] <bur[n] er> Nick_Hill: that doesn't work ;)  don't you read the scrollback!
[05:44] <bur[n] er> hehe
[05:44] <Nick_Hill> markybob, Have you checked the owner and mode of the user's home directory?
[05:44] <Nick_Hill> ls -l /home
[05:45] <markybob> Nick_Hill, yes, that looks fine.  it cant be related to the home directory, though, because creating a new one and changing that info in /etc/passwd still didnt work.
[05:45] <Swearingen> adam_r: I killed X and when it restarted I'm at 85
[05:45] <Nick_Hill> markybob, I noticed the mv .* ~/tmp but that doesn't move everything
[05:45] <Swearingen> adam_r: weird huh?
[05:45] <bur[n] er> Nick_Hill: it doesn't?
[05:45] <markybob> wtf else is there?
[05:45] <adam_r> sorry
[05:46] <adam_r> oh the rates
[05:46] <adam_r> strange
[05:46] <Xenguy> !enter
[05:46] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[05:46] <Nick_Hill> bur[n] er, Isn't that only going to move the hidden files starting with period?
[05:46] <GURT> nalioth: thanks. do i have to restart anything after installing them?
[05:46] <bur[n] er> Nick_Hill: right... but that's the only place config files sit
[05:46] <GURT> other than rhythmbox i'd imagine
[05:46] <nalioth> GURT: you do not
[05:46] <GURT> thanks
[05:47] <Nick_Hill> bur[n] er, When you have exhausted the obvious...
[05:47] <bur[n] er> :)
[05:47] <adam_r> wines giving me sith so im goint to bed
[05:47] <adam_r> bye
[05:49] <foxgamer> Hi all. Can anyone point me in a direction where I can learn about using my computer to run my own website?
[05:49] <bur[n] er> foxgamer: learn about apache
[05:49] <foxgamer> Thanks bur[n] er
[05:49] <GURT> hmm. i can only hear m4a in VLC
[05:49] <reon> Help!  I'm trying to find the post in UbuntuForums that deals with an automated install script for things like Skype etc. ??
[05:49] <bur[n] er> apache == webserver... you'll also have to forward port 80 from your router to your webserving box
[05:50] <lucaas> reon, its a sticky on the customization section
[05:50] <lucaas> in the maybe
[05:50] <NoUse> !skype
[05:50] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free, or breezy debs: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:51] <sizzam> what do i have to do to get ssl support in mail-notification
[05:51] <nalioth> GURT: your programs may have to recompiled with mp4/aac support (idk much about their plugin systems)
[05:51] <reon> lucaas, thanks a mil, dunno how i missed it, must have my eyes checked ;)
[05:51] <nalioth> GURT: you may also try installing libfaac and libfaad
[05:52] <psusi> I don't get the deal with the patent encumberment on mp3
[05:53] <NoUse> psusi mp3 is patented, thus Ubutnu can't legally include support for it without paying for it
[05:53] <rikva> What should I do when make says "differs in signedness"? I'm trying to compile some modules on Breezy.
[05:53] <psusi> I thought the deal was that mp3 is an open standard and is patent free, it is only the fraugnhoffer codec, which is a particular implementation, that charges the 75 cents... there are other implementations out there, like lame
[05:53] <lucaas> reon, np :>
[05:53] <NoUse> psusi you are thinking off
[05:53] <NoUse> psusi ogg vorbis
[05:53] <NoUse> psusi mp3 is very much patened
[05:53] <aphax> what is the default root password on the ubuntu live-cd?
[05:54] <lucaas> is lame decoding too?
[05:54] <VooDoo> Greetz
[05:54] <spy> woah mega cool
[05:54] <lucaas> i thought it was only encoding
[05:54] <zer0`> foxgamer: if you want to apache with php+mysql https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:54] <stefano> hello
[05:54] <spy> Hello
[05:54] <psusi> got any references to the patents?  because a few years ago when I did some research on the topic, it looked like the 75 cents was for the fraugnhoffer implementation, but lame was a free alternative that was not encumbered by patents
[05:54] <psusi> yes, lame does decoding too
[05:54] <stefano> just reading posts, newbie.
[05:54] <reon> lucaas, found it. Automatix: Automated Graphical Installer and Tweaker
[05:54] <foxgamer> Thanks zer0` :)
[05:55] <lucaas> reon, yup, tahts the one
[05:55] <spy> Yea im a newbie here
[05:55] <jenda> VooDoo: greetz back
[05:55] <NoUse> psusi patents don't cover specifc implementations, they cover a method, in this case encoding audio
[05:55] <foxgamer> I don't even know anything about it, so I am just learning it to see if I want to. I get very curious about such things
[05:55] <VooDoo> Hay Jendo, hows tricks
[05:55] <NoUse> psusi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mp3#Licensing_and_patent_issues
[05:55] <VooDoo> Jenda even...sorry not had enough coffee
[05:55] <psusi> NoUse: right... which is why I don't get it... the method was made an open standard, which I thought, prevented anyone from patenting it after that
[05:56] <sizzam> how do i install the gtk development libraries
[05:56] <Revellion> sizzam: apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev ?
[05:56] <Revellion> :)
[05:56] <NoUse> psusi lame reverse engineering mp3, that doesn't make the patent null/void
[05:56] <VooDoo> sizzam: try synaptic
[05:56] <jenda> VooDoo: funny. "jendo" is actually the proper vocative form
[05:56] <spy> I just reformated today and installed Ubuntu again but this time it did'nt ask to be updated and it did the last time i installed it anybody know why?
[05:56] <psusi> NoUse: no... the method is well described by the standard, you can download it
[05:56] <NoUse> psusi yeah, thats called a paten
[05:56] <psusi> no reverse engineering is required
[05:56] <bur[n] er> spy: give it time... it'll ask
[05:56] <sizzam> thanks Revellion
[05:56] <nalioth> sizzam: search in synaptic for libgtk * -dev
[05:57] <VooDoo> spy: what you installed from?  a breezy iso?
[05:57] <NoUse> psusi you publish the method, and then anyone who uses that method has to pay ou
[05:57] <psusi> no, not a patent, an ISO standard... or it might have been another standards body, I forget
[05:57] <spy> A install Ubuntu cd rom 5.4
[05:57] <sizzam> thanks, apparently thats what i need to get ssl support working in mail-notification
[05:57] <spy> I got it in mail just last week
[05:57] <VooDoo> try sudo apt-get update
[05:57] <doubletwist> http://www.mp3-tech.org/patents.html
[05:58] <william_> I got gimpshop working, I downloaded a .deb from the Ubuntu forums :)
[05:58] <NoUse> psusi why would people invent ogg if mp3 was an open standard?
[05:58] <Freddie> does anyone use ogg
[05:59] <MenZa`> Yep?
[05:59] <MenZa`> Sometimes, I like ogg vorbis.
[05:59] <spy> i did stil not askin to update
[05:59] <VooDoo> i use ogg no idea why though!
[05:59] <doubletwist> I use ogg
[05:59] <doubletwist> Which is why I love my iRivier.
[05:59] <bur[n] er> ogg is neat, but won't play in my car or my portable player :\
[05:59] <doubletwist> iRiver rather
[05:59] <psusi> NoUse: I never understood that myself...
[05:59] <VooDoo> maybe your uptodate!
[05:59] <blaise-> i am using breezy amd64 and when i play a mp3 via totem it terminates the application.  is mp3 a win32 codec ?
[05:59] <william_> I know a guy who is a real hippy who his group that he belongs to only uses ogg because of quality even though there music is recorded like crap and is old
[05:59] <Tido> ugh, my KVM works fine on linux, but doesn't work at all on windows
[05:59] <bur[n] er> blaise-: get gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:59] <Tido> you'd think it would be the other way around
[06:00] <VooDoo> blaise: you have the g8streamer-mad thingy installed?
[06:00] <spy> Im sure im not i think its coz i didn't take the cd rom out of the cd rom drive when it asked me to
[06:00] <spy> Could that be the reasion?
[06:00] <NoUse> psusi because mp3 is not an open stanard
[06:00] <doubletwist> Plus when re-encoding my music down to a very low bitrate [for my portable]  the ogg ends up sounding better than mp3.
[06:00] <spy> coz other then that i can't think of anything else i did diffrent
[06:00] <blaise-> bur[n] er, i have that already :(
[06:00] <psusi> NoUse: well, it IS an ISO standard... the question is, which came first, the patent or the standard
[06:00] <bur[n] er> blaise-: have totem-xine by chance?
[06:00] <psusi> if the standard came first, the patent is invalid
[06:00] <Korio> you cant re-encode an mp3 to ogg :p it woulld sound really bad
[06:00] <blaise-> no i dont
[06:00] <VooDoo> spy: nah if theres any updates running sudo apt-get update should find them then sudo apt-get upgrade should install them
[06:01] <blaise-> didn't think i'd need it
[06:01] <spy> ok
[06:01] <bur[n] er> blaise-: you shouldn't
[06:01] <blaise-> actually i do have it
[06:01] <bur[n] er> do those mp3s play in any other apps?  rhythmbox for example?
[06:01] <NoUse> psusi http://www.mp3-tech.org/patents.html
[06:01] <bur[n] er> blaise-: if you do have it, then you need something else to play mp3s
[06:01] <VooDoo> only if you have gstreamer-mad installed
[06:01] <doubletwist> Korio I mean when I downsample an mp3 to a low bitrate mp3, it doesn't sound as good when i downsample an ogg to a lower bitrate ogg.
[06:01] <bur[n] er> if totem isn't using the gstreamer backend, then gstreamer0.8-mad does nothing
[06:01] <squid0> hi
[06:02] <VooDoo> good point
[06:02] <squid0> i'm told i need to install glib to use make. which version should i install?
[06:02] <Korio> ctcp
[06:02] <bur[n] er> as a side note blaise-, did you ever do gst-register-0.8 ?
[06:02] <iceman> how do download xfce ... ?
[06:02] <Korio> doesnt BMP play mp3s out of the box?
[06:02] <blaise-> yes i did
[06:02] <bur[n] er> iceman: get xubuntu-desktop :)
[06:02] <spy> I have 70+Gigabytes of mp3's how do i lisen to them on here there on my other hdd i keep for backups and in ntfs filesystem is it possible to listen to them from there and what program should i use coz none of the media players on Ubuntu play mp3's i?
[06:03] <Prezzman> guys I need some help. I'm reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaly frustrated with ubuntu. Is there anyone who can help me out? pleasssssse.
[06:03] <bur[n] er> blaise-: rhythmbox work?
[06:03] <squid0> that is, glib or glib-devel or glib2 or glib-devel2?
[06:03] <VooDoo> korio: no
[06:03] <bur[n] er> blaise-: or beep-media-player ?
[06:03] <Korio> VooDoo: well doesnt BMP-mp3 do the trick ?
[06:03] <nalioth> Korio: it does not
[06:03] <bur[n] er> blaise-: try this?  http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[06:03] <iceman> bur[n] er thanks ....
[06:03] <jenda> Prezzman: Wassa matta?
[06:03] <Korio> well i was listening to some web radio..
[06:03] <blaise-> its playing fine in rhythumbox
[06:03] <sexcopter8000m> hi, can anyone recommend a program to record a video stream from the internet?
[06:04] <Korio> that sends in mp3
[06:04] <nalioth> Korio: vlc is the only media player with patented codec support ootb
[06:04] <Prezzman> thanks jenda...lemme xplain.
[06:04] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: streamripper
[06:04] <blaise-> cannot do -- amd64
[06:04] <bur[n] er> blaise-: odd it wont' play in totem :\
[06:04] <sexcopter8000m> thank nalioth
[06:04] <blaise-> thank you
[06:04] <bur[n] er> aww... 64 bit... i have no idea then ;)
[06:04] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: there are gui frontends available for streamripper, also
[06:04] <Korio> nalioth: well bmp plays mp3 with a bit of modifcation then
[06:04] <jenda> There's a guy who posted on the forum, asking about rebuilding Ubuntu for i686. Does anyone here have a clue?
[06:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Korio about mp3
[06:04] <Korio> rofl
[06:04] <Korio> bmp plays mp3s :)
[06:05] <iceman> from what i can tell, 64 bit still has a ways to go....
[06:05] <Korio> maybe not out of the box but still
[06:05] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth, can i use kstreamripper in gnome?
[06:05] <Prezzman> I've had an old version of ubuntu (livedvd) for a while now. everytime i used to try n run it, it would go thru set up, scan my 'cd-rom' and then when copying some files to the hdd, it would say problem copying a file from the cd-rom.
[06:05] <apokryphos> iceman: in what way exactly?
[06:05] <spy> Dose anybody have the link for Ubuntu restricted packages?
[06:05] <bur[n] er> sexcopter8000m: sure can
[06:05] <Prezzman> so i downloaded 5.10 today. burned it onto cd. same thing!!!!!!! burnt it onto another cd...same thing!!!!! burnt it onto a dvd-rw...same thing with the exact same file!!!
[06:06] <bur[n] er> sexcopter8000m: or streamtuner works decently as a frontend
[06:06] <sexcopter8000m> thank bur[n] er
[06:06] <jenda> Prezzman: Well that looks more like a hardware problem. Bad DVD or something
[06:06] <doubletwist> Need 64bit java plugins, flash, and w32codecs :) [w64codecs as it were? :) ] 
[06:06] <apokryphos> spy: packages from ubuntu's "restricted" repository. Or, packages that are restricted?
[06:06] <Korio> Prezzman: what was the error? was it something about initrd tools?
[06:06] <spy> Well need to play mp3's what ever will help
[06:06] <jenda> Prezzman: OK got ya now...
[06:06] <Mars^s> Hi i have question. I was wondering what profits ubuntu developers have, that they can send me Ubuntu cd's for free. How do they make money on ubuntu?
[06:06] <psusi> so why are the maintainers of lame not being sued?
[06:06] <Prezzman> it's a brand new dvd-drive. just popped out of the box last night. and the media brand new as well.
[06:07] <riverside> Prezzman: I had that exact same issue - I solved it by using ext3 as the file system instead or reiserfs - I have no idea why that worked, but it did
[06:07] <riverside> s/or/of
[06:07] <Prezzman> let me get u the exact error msg
[06:07] <apokryphos> doubletwist: all the issues aren't anything to do with ubuntu, though, note.
[06:07] <jenda> Prezzman: Did you use reiserfs?
[06:07] <Korio> Prezzman: what does the integrity check say?
[06:07] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: any kde app can be run under gnome, and vice versa
[06:07] <Korio> Prezzman: try burn at a lower speed
[06:07] <doubletwist> apokryphos Oh yes I'm aware of that... same problems in 64bit debian, xBSD etc...
[06:07] <jenda> There's a guy who posted on the forum, asking about rebuilding Ubuntu for i686. Does anyone here have a clue?
[06:07] <B|4ckm0r3> hi all! i need help, i'm trying to build gaim from cvs!but i can't login into cvs server!
[06:07] <ayamtua> how do i install kmplayer using apt-get? i dont have that package in my repos
[06:07] <apokryphos> doubletwist: and re: flash, Windoze too :P
[06:07] <blaise-> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH -- i'm missing a c compiler for dvd playback
[06:07] <ayamtua> and what repos do i have to add in ?
[06:07] <bur[n] er> Prezzman: how are you burning the .iso... i hope you're not just burning the .iso as a file on the cd...
[06:08] <apokryphos> ayamtua: you would need to compile it
[06:08] <jenda> bur[n] er: It vouldn't even boot
[06:08] <apokryphos> ayamtua: what's wrong with Kaffeine/xine/mplayer?
[06:08] <nalioth> jenda: there is a 686 kernel for ubuntu
[06:08] <doubletwist> I also had problems with a new adaptec aacraid card in 64bit. :( The driver itself works ok, but the management utils don't work at all. Kind of useless really.
[06:08] <nalioth> blaise-: install 'build-essential' with apt-get or synaptic
[06:08] <ayamtua> apokryphos, is there any player for playing avi just as windows media player do ?
[06:08] <Prezzman> i haven't even got far enuf to choose the filesystem.
[06:08] <jenda> nalioth: And is the kernel enough?
[06:08] <nalioth> jenda: yes it is
[06:08] <blaise-> thank you nalioth
[06:08] <ayamtua> apokryphos, i cant play avi files
[06:08] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth, bur[n] er this streamripper seems to only do audio...
[06:08] <bur[n] er> awww.. Prezzman... check the md5sum
[06:08] <apokryphos> ayamtua: if you get the w32codecs, then xine/kaffeine should be able to play pretty much everything
[06:09] <aikon> install w32codecs @ ayamtua
[06:09] <ayamtua> apokryphos, where do i get that?
[06:09] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: what type of streams did you wish? (assumptions lead to audio)
[06:09] <apokryphos> !tell ayamtua about w32codecs
[06:09] <jenda> nalioth: maybe it would be best if you told the guy - I don't really enderstand the problem. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=446953
[06:09] <Prezzman> "there was a problem reading data from the cd-rom. please make sure it is in the drive. if retryin does not work, u should check the intetgrity of ur cd-rom"
[06:09] <riverside> ayamtua: I did apt-get install xmms and that played mp3 files out of the box, on breezy - although real player actually plays them better, possibly due to more recent codecs?
[06:09] <ayamtua> thanka bro
[06:09] <nalioth> jenda: forums are full of misinformed people
[06:10] <jenda> nalioth: And?
[06:10] <sexcopter8000m> i'm not sure exactly what format, but a friend wants to record a video programme. he can watch it via an internet stream
[06:10] <riverside> apokryphos: habit :-)
[06:10] <nalioth> jenda: be careful what you read
[06:10] <doubletwist> apokryphos Many people used it for years while there wasn't a better option.
[06:10] <apokryphos> I know
[06:10] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: depending on the stream, there are different ways to capture it
[06:10] <doubletwist> Plus familiarity with winamp
[06:10] <riverside> what is recommended generally now as an xmms replacement?
[06:10] <apokryphos> doesn't really justify using it now at all, IMO 8). Only for ol' fogies, or sentimentalists :P
[06:10] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth, ok, i shall try to find out :)
[06:10] <bur[n] er> riverside: beep-media-player
[06:10] <nalioth> riverside: beep media player
[06:11] <apokryphos> riverside: many infinitely superior players
[06:11] <spy> Dose anybody have the url for Ubuntu restricted packages? to get help with playin mp3's?
[06:11] <Prezzman> any idea why that error msg? it was the same msg with the older version of ubunu!
[06:11] <bur[n] er> xmms has more plugins than bmp in ubuntu though
[06:11] <ui> my firefox crash when i try to see a video straming
[06:11] <bur[n] er> hence xmms is still popular :P
[06:11] <jenda> nalioth: Yeah... but it's not me who needs the help. I'm trying to find the solution for another guy... calls himself JOKe
[06:11] <doubletwist> I've been using rhythmbox, but I wish you could edit the id3 tag/ogg info
[06:11] <apokryphos> riverside: a lot of people like beep, but there's far better players than even that IMO.
[06:11] <NoUse> !tell spy about mp3
[06:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell spy about mp3
[06:11] <doubletwist> from within rhythmbox
[06:11] <bur[n] er> doubletwist: join the club ;)  it's all dependent on gstreamer's ability to do so
[06:11] <apokryphos> go taglib!
[06:11] <bur[n] er> doubletwist: u can use banshee in the meantime banshee-project.org
[06:11] <Prezzman> burner: sorry for being ignorant. but what u mean by md5sum? how do i check it n how will it help?
[06:12] <nalioth> jenda: then recommend he simply use the 686 kernel available (unless he just wants to recompile everything <to each their own>)
[06:12] <doubletwist> bur[n] er I'll check it out.
[06:12] <spy> Yea tell me about mp3?
[06:12] <jenda> nalioth: Alrighty
[06:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Prezzman about verify
[06:12] <nalioth> spy: check your private messages
[06:12] <ui> !codecs
[06:12] <ubotu> [codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:12] <bur[n] er> Prezzman: when you download an .iso, there is a "md5sum" on the download page... after you download the .iso run the md5sum on your own iso and see if the output matches that of the website... then you know you have the whole file
[06:12] <apokryphos> doubletwist: or just use JuK/amaroK which are the best :D
[06:12] <bur[n] er> aww... i didn't realize ubotu knew verify... and i wrote all that crap ;)
[06:13] <spy> o sorry
[06:13] <maxim_> Hello , is there anyone who knows how to add subtitles with XDVDShrink ?
[06:13] <doubletwist> Well, I'm trying to keep my qt based programs to a minimum...
[06:13] <bur[n] er> doubletwist: banshee is gtk
[06:13] <apokryphos> up to you
[06:13] <Prezzman> thanks burner. lemme check.
[06:13] <bur[n] er> amarok > all :)
[06:13] <doubletwist> bur[n] er Yeah, I was responding to apokryphos's suggestion to use Juk?amaroK...
[06:13] <jenda> nalioth: How do you choose the kernel. Expert install?
[06:13] <bur[n] er> doubletwist: my bad, didn't see it ;)
[06:14] <doubletwist> The only QT app I use regularly is K3b...
[06:14] <apokryphos> doubletwist: why trying to keep them to a minimum?
[06:14] <nalioth> jenda: use synaptic
[06:14] <jenda> nalioth: That simple? Amazing.
[06:14] <apokryphos> I tend to just use whichever program is better for the job
[06:14] <nalioth> jenda: apt-get makes things simple, yes
[06:15] <doubletwist> apokryphos partially for gui consistancy, partially for not having to load libs that aren't necessary. Maybe not with some qt apps, but I notice a lot of qt apps load a bunch of kde libs when they run.
[06:15] <aeon17x> jenda: and a lot less frustrating - it also tries to resolve the dependencies for ya.
[06:15] <ayamtua> isa there any sample for apt-get source-list ?
[06:15] <sexcopter8000m> what is qt and gtk actually? or is that a hard question to answer?
[06:15] <ayamtua> im using default one
[06:16] <aeon17x> !ubotu
[06:16] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:16] <doubletwist> It's been awhile since I tried gnomebaker. Maybe I'll try it again then if it has caught up with k3b's functionality.
[06:16] <apokryphos> doubletwist: well, then they're kde apps and not just Qt ones. Though, if you already have a KDE/Qt app then ipso facto you have the Qt/KDE libs (in which case trying to "keep them to a minimum" seems a little futile).
[06:16] <squid0> !add
[06:16] <ubotu> I guess add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[06:16] <iiiears> How can i measure my download speed?
[06:16] <bur[n] er> apokryphos: ever notice the RAM usage difference when using amarok compared to rhythmbox from within gnome?  it's a hefty difference
[06:16] <jenda> aeon17x: I know. I love synaptic. But I had no clue it'll even be enough to switch to 686 kernel. I just thought that'll be more difficult.
[06:16] <doubletwist> apokryphos Yes the kde libs are installed, but they are only loaded into ram when I run the program. So I try not to run the kde based progs.
[06:16] <nalioth> iiiears: www.dslreports.com speed test may enlighten you
[06:16] <ayamtua> ubotu azureus
[06:16] <ubotu> [azureus]  a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[06:16] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: wouldn't doubt it; amarok is necessarily more heavyweight
[06:17] <ayamtua> bur[n] er, how do i add hoary extras repos ?
[06:17] <aeon17x> !extras
[06:17] <ubotu> I heard extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:17] <ayamtua> i dont have one
[06:17] <iiiears> nalioth - Thanks.    is there a linux tool?
[06:17] <bur[n] er> apokryphos: better test... ram usage of amarok in gnome compared to amarok in kde ;)
[06:17] <sexcopter8000m> jenda, the only thing that's more complcated is you have to reboot after updating the kernel ;)
[06:17] <apokryphos> sure
[06:17] <bur[n] er> !tell ayamtua about repositories
[06:17] <B|4ckm0r3> ayamtua:  use bittorrent official client!azureus uses a lot of ram
[06:17] <bur[n] er> azureus also has more features
[06:18] <thomerz> hi, i have installed gvlc and gnome-vlc, how do i start one of them? i only can find vlc
[06:18] <apokryphos> azureus is really CPU-intensive though, unfortunately
[06:18] <bur[n] er> most notable... rss plugin for azureus to automatically download "the daily show" for me ;)
[06:18] <apokryphos> thomerz: it's gvlc, isn't it?
[06:18] <nalioth> iiiears: i usually got to mozilla.org and d/l mozilla suite (just to see the d/l speed) mozilla usually has good pipes
[06:18] <thomerz> apokryphos, no isnt there
[06:18] <iiiears> nalioth -  is there a CLI option?  would gkrellem be the best option?
[06:18] <apokryphos> thomerz: hoary/breezy?
[06:18] <doubletwist> Actually I don't even run gnome. I run xfce4. I try to keep my system as lean as possible while retaining as much functionality as possible.
[06:18] <thomerz> apokryphos, breezy
[06:18] <apokryphos> !info gvlc
[06:18] <ubotu> gvlc: (GTK+ frontend for VLC (dummy legacy package)), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 60 kB
[06:18] <apokryphos> thomerz: it's there
[06:18] <aeon17x> apokryphos: not that much on CPU, but on the memory side... it's like" OMG RAM YUM YUM"
[06:19] <apokryphos> thomerz: you haven't enabled the Universe repository. /msg ubotu repositories   ...to find out how to.
[06:19] <doubletwist> Although I do go ahead and waste ram running nautilus and gnome-volume-manager for my desktop :)
[06:19] <apokryphos> aeon17x: both, in fact. Especially once you get quite a few torrents going.
[06:19] <thomerz> apokryphos, i have installed it already, but there is no binary for it
[06:19] <nalioth> iiiears: gkrellm or conky will tell you your current up/down rate, yes
[06:19] <iiiears> nalioth - ah heck i'm being a pest. - lol -  really do appreciate your help.  - Thanks again.
[06:19] <bur[n] er> wow... azureus really is horrible with ram... 400+ here
[06:19] <apokryphos> thomerz: installs fine here. You on i386?
[06:19] <Prezzman> burner: I'm currently using a windows machine. is there any other way of checking? and could that really be the problem? I never seem to have problems installing other distros.
[06:20] <thomerz> apokryphos, yes
[06:20] <aeon17x> Hmm... do we have an extras repository for breezy?
[06:20] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: ktorrent! :P
[06:20] <doubletwist> I tend to use btdownloadcurses for torrents. :)
[06:20] <jessid__> is there a tool to send messeges though the Internet using the IP???
[06:20] <nalioth> aeon17x: not yet
[06:20] <jessid__> I dont care if it is in text mode or graphical mode
[06:20] <NoUse> jessid__ like IM?
[06:20] <jenda> sexcopter8000m: Cool. And I thought I was lucky that I didn't need to do that. Actually; under what circumstances should you use a different kernel than the default?
[06:20] <apokryphos> thomerz: can't test since I'm on amd64, but I seriously doubt that they'd not have it for i386 if it's available for 64-bit...
[06:20] <aeon17x> nalioth: so we have to use hoary's for now?
[06:20] <bur[n] er> apokryphos: gnome-btdownload! :P
[06:21] <apokryphos> yuck :P
[06:21] <bur[n] er> lol
[06:21] <iiiears> coffee can only do so much. - time for a nap. - grin  BBL
[06:21] <thomerz> apokryphos, i have the icons and so on for gnome-vlc and gvlc, but no binary
[06:21] <bur[n] er> ktorrent really is nice
[06:21] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: last time I tried it it was reaally lacking in features. What's it like now?
[06:21] <ayamtua> i cant play avi files eventhough i installed w32codecs
[06:21] <bur[n] er> i wish KDE was ;)
[06:21] <sexcopter8000m> jenda, i think the default is usually fine, as long as it is kept up do date (which the update manager will do)
[06:21] <bur[n] er> apokryphos: same ;)  hence my azureus usage
[06:21] <apokryphos> ayamtua: launching it in xine?
[06:21] <jessid__> NoUse I dont know, something I can use using the ip,
[06:21] <ayamtua> apokryphos, kaffeine
[06:21] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: eh?
[06:21] <aeon17x> !kaffeine
[06:21] <ubotu> aeon17x: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:21] <davisti-3> hola
[06:22] <davisti-3> hello
[06:22] <apokryphos> ayamtua: well, you might need extra gstreamer libs for that. Try playing in xine for a sec.
[06:22] <aeon17x> ubotu doesn't sleep much I guess
[06:22] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, aeon17x
[06:22] <bur[n] er> apokryphos: gnome-btdownload still lacks features
[06:22] <apokryphos> indeed
[06:22] <jessid__> I want to send a message to someonet is trying to enter to mi PC
[06:22] <nalioth> aeon17x: give it a few weeks for the "backports" and "extras"
[06:22] <jessid__> :)
[06:22] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: ktorrent isn't all that featureful yet too, admittedly, but it's progressing quite quickly. Promising.
[06:22] <bur[n] er> apokryphos: you're a saint for putting up that amarok 1.3.5 info on ubotu
[06:22] <apokryphos> 8)
[06:23] <bur[n] er> apokryphos: ktorrent has a notification-area icon, that's good enough for me ;)
[06:23] <apokryphos> =)
[06:23] <NoUse> jessid__ if they are using a *nix machine you could probably send mail to root@IP and it might work
[06:23] <doubletwist> Bummer. Breezy doesn't have a distributed.net package? :(
[06:23] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: I like the simplistic UI; nice.
[06:23] <Hampster> Hey
[06:23] <ui> can somebody show me  yours repositories of breezzy? :(
[06:23] <doubletwist> [grumble grumble]  make me do it the hard way [grumble]  :)
[06:23] <jenda> sexcopter8000m: Why would someone want to switch to i686 kernel, then?
[06:23] <apokryphos> !tell ui about sources
[06:23] <jessid__> NoUse ok, ill try
[06:24] <Prezzman> please could anyone help me?
[06:24] <bur[n] er> apokryphos: if KDE had a nice icon theme, i'd use it... i know it's fickle, but I hate the blue ;)
[06:24] <Hampster> Does anyone know how to set up verizon DSL with Ubuntu?
[06:24] <aeon17x> Prezzman: restate your problem.
[06:24] <bur[n] er> Hampster: get a cat5 cable instead of a USB :)
[06:24] <sexcopter8000m> jenda, i think it may be just optimised for more up-to-date processors, but it's a good question. i'd like to know if it's worth it *looks at #ubuntu for an answer*
[06:24] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: aesthetically, I think kde is least lacking in the icon department -- there's seriously some really great ones. Check out nuvola, pastels-nuvola, amaranth themes, and all RAD icons. Quite something :)
[06:24] <Hampster> I know to use an ethernet cable
[06:25] <Hampster> but what utility would I use
[06:25] <TaQ> hey, does 5.10 have an option to choose the kind of session, gnome or kde, on login?
[06:25] <aeon17x> Taq: yes.
[06:25] <Hampster> I've never set up DSL in linux before
[06:25] <Hampster> always dialup
[06:25] <doubletwist> jenda: it can make more efficient use of the abilities of the particular processor by using a kernel for that proc.
[06:25] <NoUse> Hampster I think you probably need to configure pppoe but I've never used DSL
[06:25] <ETT> hey guys i need help with a lexmark printer in ubuntu, what program i can use to check the ink leves and head aligments?
[06:25] <jessid__> is it possible to know if someone is connected to my PC, someone thats trying to damage my files? or who knows what he/she wants
[06:25] <aeon17x> Hampster: pppoeconf
[06:25] <bluefrog-10> !dvd
[06:25] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can obtain by installing 'libdvdread3' and then running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[06:25] <Prezzman> "there was a problem reading data from the cd-rom. please make sure it is in the drive. if retryin does not work, u should check the intetgrity of ur cd-rom"
[06:25] <TaQ> aeon17x, didn't know about that! so what the kubuntu dudes will make now? :-)
[06:25] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: and the one I'm using now is really great too -- nuoveXT
[06:26] <din> jessid__: type w in a terminal
[06:26] <Hampster> thank you
[06:26] <jenda> doubletwist: Thanks. And for the pentium IV proc - it's 686, neh?
[06:26] <ETT> hey guys i need help with a lexmark printer in ubuntu, what program i can use to check the ink leves and head aligments?
[06:26] <doubletwist> jenda Yeah, i686 should work for Pentium Pro through P4.
[06:26] <bluefrog-10> !DVD
[06:26] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can obtain by installing 'libdvdread3' and then running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[06:27] <Prezzman> did u see that aeon17x?
[06:27] <aeon17x> Hardware problem?
[06:27] <jenda> doubletwist:  Cool. And con something go massively wrong if I sudo apt-get my new kernel?
[06:28] <ETT> hey guys i need help with a lexmark printer in ubuntu, what program i can use to check the ink leves and head aligments?
[06:28] <doubletwist> jenda it *can* but probably won't :)
[06:28] <bur[n] er> apokryphos: nuoveXT isn't bad... though the firefox icon bugs me ;)  humanistic for KDE is what I'm hoping for for dapper ;)
[06:28] <doubletwist> jenda And it will keep your current kernel in grub, so you can still boot into your known working kernel.
[06:28] <jenda> doubletwist: I even considered compiling my own - but I decided to put that off for a while...
[06:28] <doubletwist> jenda even if the new one doesn't work.
[06:28] <sexcopter8000m> so doubletwist if i install "linux-686" does that cover everything?
[06:28] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: ugly brown? Yuck :D
[06:28] <apokryphos> sexcopter8000m: kernel-wise, yes.
[06:29] <sexcopter8000m> apokryphos, what else could there be?
[06:29] <jenda> doubletwist: Even better. Love tis system. Been loving it since even before I begun using it.
[06:29] <doubletwist> jenda yeah 'apt-get install linux-image-686'
[06:29] <WildZeck> ui, check your private for the sourcelist
[06:29] <apokryphos> sexcopter8000m: that's it
[06:29] <doubletwist> jenda or 'linux-image-686-smp' if you have one of the new dual-core p4's.
[06:29] <ETT> hey guys i need help with a lexmark printer in ubuntu, what program i can use to check the ink leves and head aligments?
[06:30] <jenda> doubletwist: Nope, not that. But what's the diff between linux-686 and linux-image-686?
[06:30] <nalioth> jenda: you'll be fine
[06:30] <doubletwist> jenda nothing
[06:30] <doubletwist> or rather
[06:30] <jessid__> din is that all?
[06:31] <jessid__> only w to know who is working in my machine?
[06:31] <doubletwist> linux-686 just ends up calling linux-image-686 which in turn calls linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 :)
[06:31] <jenda> nalioth: Cool. I osked originally because someone else needed the 686 and now it's me installing it. I thought you needed it for something hi tech (like a dual core)
[06:31] <NoUse> jessid__ yeah that shows logged in users, what makes you think someone is in your machine?
[06:32] <jenda> nalioth, doubletwist, sexcopter8000m: Thanks!
[06:32] <doubletwist> jenda no problem.
[06:32] <Prezzman> thanks guys. think I'll stick with another distro. laters.
[06:32] <jenda> @ Prezzman... ouch
[06:33] <doubletwist> hehe
[06:33] <jessid__> NoUse I am seeing in firestarter red messeges that says someone is using this protocols: telnet, ssh, Auth and Omirr
[06:33] <NoUse> jessid__ people are probably just scaning your machine
[06:33] <clurin> hello, everyone. I have a quick question. I just installed 5.10 on a system, and we need Apache, mod-perl, perl, and rt. How do I install there? I can't find gcc...
[06:33] <nalioth> jenda: 686 addressed more memory is the biggest difference in kernels
[06:33] <ETT> looks like the curse of windows will never end, i think i have to go back to windows again
[06:33] <jessid__> NoUse two hours ago?
[06:34] <NoUse> jessid__ people scan ports all the time
[06:34] <aeon17x> ETT: if your printer's LED is flashing red, it means you're nearly running out of ink.
[06:34] <NoUse> jessid__ I just runa hardware firewall and don't worry about it
[06:34] <aeon17x> ETT: That's for the ink level.
[06:34] <doubletwist> ETT yeah lexmark isn't known for its supportability. :)
[06:34] <D> hello
[06:34] <Juhaz> ETT, and when it won't print anything any more, you've ran out of ink :)
[06:34] <doubletwist> I've been VERY happy with my Brother laser printer....
[06:34] <frank23> clurin: use synaptic to install (frontend for apt)
[06:35] <jessid__> NoUse ok ok! thanks!
[06:35] <doubletwist> Juhaz hahah
[06:35] <doubletwist> That's the method i use of checking ink levels.
[06:35] <jenda> nalioth: Does that mean that one needs more mem with 686?
[06:35] <D> ive just installed ubuntu is this the place to get help ?
[06:35] <aeon17x> Seveas, is that really you?
[06:35] <jenda> D: yup
[06:35] <clurin> frank: ok. I'm very new to Ubuntu.. where do I find Synaptic? ^^;
[06:35] <Seveas> aeon17x, no
[06:35] <aeon17x> !tell clurin about synaptic
[06:35] <jenda> clurin: System> Admin>Synaptic
[06:35] <doubletwist> D it is one of the places to get help.
[06:35] <D> ok so first question xchat resolves everything to 1.0.0.0
[06:35] <nalioth> jenda: no. it means that if you have an i386 kernal and 4gb of ram, the i386 kernel will not use near all of it, where the i686 kernel will
[06:36] <D> whats wrong ?
[06:36] <clurin> thanks!!
[06:36] <D> heres what it said
[06:36] <ETT> aeon17, doubletwist, junaz: i know, what im really interested is to clean the heads, i cant, even thouth i can print without problems
[06:36] <D> * Looking up irc.freenode.net
[06:36] <D> * Connecting to irc.freenode.net (1.0.0.0) port 6667...
[06:36] <jessid__> NoUse what is the porpouse of scanning ports all the time?
[06:36] <Orborde> Why does the clock applet have 114 MEGABYTES listed in top's "VIRT" column? What does "VIRT" mean? Virtual memory?
[06:36] <jenda> nalioth: Great. But I have only 768 Megs... will it be affected?
[06:36] <D> i had to nslookup in order to login
[06:36] <NoUse> jessid__ people trying to hack into machines
[06:36] <jenda> clurin:np
[06:37] <lorbas> hi@all
[06:37] <doubletwist> ETT: I've never had a lexmark, but most of the inkjet printers I've used had a way to clean the heads from the printer itself [like hold two buttons down for 2 seconds kind of thing] 
[06:37] <nalioth> jenda: you should be just fine with either kernel
[06:37] <Juhaz> do the head cleaning tools ever actually do anything useful other than whir and click convincingly for a minute?
[06:37] <jessid__> NoUse jaja! thats what i say!
[06:37] <jenda> nalioth: Alight.
[06:37] <doubletwist> hehe
[06:37] <jenda> nalioth: *Alright.
[06:37] <NoUse> jessid__ yeah but just because they are scanning doesn't mean they have cracked your machine
[06:37] <lorbas> can i install the mplayer for ubuntu online ?
[06:37] <aeon17x> Juhaz: they result in cleaner printouts once the head is clean.
[06:38] <ETT> doubletwist: i will try to search for that function in my 4200 series
[06:38] <NoUse> !tell lorbas about mplayer
[06:38] <jenda> lorbas: Yes type sudo apt-get install mplayer-%architecture%
[06:38] <jessid__> NoUse yes you are right! but if they keep trying, they'll probably get it, doesn't it?
[06:38] <D> any hints on why xchat fails to resolve dns ?
[06:39] <jenda> lorbas: replace architecture with your architecture...
[06:39] <NoUse> jessid__ not if you have good passwords, you won't be able to stop them from scanning
[06:39] <doubletwist> ETT: I never liked all those printer maintenence utilities in windows anyway. They always got in the way and just sat there wasting memory and slowing down the machine.
[06:39] <jessid__> NoUse ok!
[06:39] <ayamtua> i have no sound in kaffeine
[06:39] <ayamtua> how do i enable my sound
[06:39] <jessid__> NoUse only passwords and firewall can "stop" them?
[06:39] <ayamtua> im using kubuntu
[06:40] <doubletwist> ayamtua Do you have sound in other programs?
[06:40] <Juhaz> aeon17x, yeah, sure, cleaner heads do cleaner prints, but the question is does the head actually become any cleaner for it. I've never seen them help, but I suppose it depends on lots of factors
[06:40] <ayamtua> doubletwist, yes i do
[06:40] <lorbas> and whit the synaptic work it ? mplayer insatll ?
[06:40] <meuserj|work> ayamtua, are you using the xine backend or gstreamer?
[06:40] <ayamtua> doubletwist, like xmms after i made some config in alsamix
[06:40] <ETT> aeon17x: doubletwist: I really love Ubuntu im setting up my office, thats the reason i was asking you guys about it, sorry im newie
[06:40] <doubletwist> ETT: no problem at all
[06:40] <ayamtua> meuserj|work, xine back end
[06:41] <D> Failed to run network-admin as user root:
[06:41] <D>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file. i get this when i try to edit my network settings
[06:41] <D> :-/
[06:41] <NoUse> jessid__ firewall is your best solution
[06:42] <NoUse> jessid__ most of those scanners are looking for windows machines anyway
[06:42] <aikon> have you hoary or breezy @ D
[06:42] <ayamtua> there must be something i ve to config to enable the sound
[06:42] <jessid__> NoUse ok! my last question. is firestarter good enough?
[06:42] <D> sec ill check
[06:42] <ayamtua> is it snd_kload ?
[06:42] <D> i have the latest one .10
[06:42] <NoUse> jessid__ yeah
[06:42] <D> sec
[06:42] <doubletwist> ayamtua Don't know, I haven't used Kaffeine in forever.
[06:42] <targetx> hi all
[06:42] <ayamtua> doubletwist, what do you use ?
[06:42] <doubletwist> ayamtua gxine
[06:43] <ayamtua> doubletwist, i have gxine
[06:43] <doubletwist> But I don't use KDE, so I avoid the kde/QT apps when I can.
[06:43] <aikon> what is you problem?? you cant use networksetup??
[06:43] <D> ehhhh uname -a doesnt show
[06:43] <ayamtua> it can playe avi movie
[06:43] <ayamtua> but no sound
[06:43] <ayamtua> how do i enable the sound
[06:43] <lorbas> apt-get install mplayer = Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:43] <jessid__> NoUse thanks!!! now i am more relaxed, jejejeje :)
[06:43] <aikon> reboot @ lorbas
[06:43] <doubletwist> ayamtua Not sure, it just worked for me.
[06:44] <doubletwist> doubletwist There's got to be something in the preferences/options regarding audio or /dev/dsp
[06:44] <aikon> uname -a must show anythink
[06:44] <doubletwist> afkb
[06:45] <sexcopter8000m> can anyone help me with this error? http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3603
[06:45] <ayamtua> my sound card is detected
[06:45] <ayamtua> 0000:01:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[06:45] <ayamtua> the only thing is the sound doesnt come out
[06:45] <D> aikon, ive got Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger"
[06:45] <aikon> kk
[06:46] <MaTaKs> how can i resume my downloads when it stops, like on windows there's getright
[06:46] <targetx> sexcopter8000m, go into the directory before running compile.sh
[06:46] <targetx> cd ~/Desktop/wpswitcher/
[06:46] <D> system->admin->network wont work
[06:46] <targetx> ./compile.sh
[06:46] <sexcopter8000m> ok targetx thanks
[06:46] <jessid__> chao a todos y gracias, especialmente a NoUse
[06:46] <targetx> sexcopter8000m, np
[06:46] <lorbas> i search a ubuntu germany channel ?
[06:46] <aikon> go terminal an write
[06:46] <aikon> su
[06:46] <aikon> than passwd
[06:46] <aikon> end than
[06:47] <targetx> then
[06:47] <MaTaKs> how can i resume my downloads when it stops, like on windows there's getright
[06:47] <D> ok done so far
[06:47] <mxpxpod> what is lvm?
[06:47] <D> im root in terminal
[06:47] <mxpxpod> and what's the difference between that and the regular partition scheme?
[06:47] <yi> how can i get apt to handle binary packages?
[06:47] <NoUse> MaTaKs I don't know about a GUI program but wget -c will continue a download
[06:47] <aikon> kk
[06:47] <aikon> than
[06:47] <apokryphos> MaTaKs: wget -c http://someurl.com/file.txt
[06:47] <aikon> gedit /etc/hosts
[06:47] <yi> i'd like to be able to install adobe reader with apt
[06:47] <mahangu> how can i install a speling module for vi?
[06:47] <MaTaKs> ok
[06:47] <aikon> sry fpr bad englisch iam german
[06:48] <mahangu> yi, use xpdf
[06:48] <yi> mahangu: no
[06:48] <yi> that's not a solution.
[06:48] <mahangu> yi, why not?
[06:48] <targetx> aikon, lol being german is not an excuse :P
[06:48] <aikon> what shows the first line ??
[06:48] <yi> because xpdf/evince/gpdf are quite terrible pdf readers compared to adobe acrobat reader
[06:48] <aikon> lol @ target
[06:48] <yi> and none of them support form.s
[06:48] <aeon17x> !adobe
[06:48] <ubotu> aeon17x: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:48] <aeon17x> !pdf
[06:48] <ubotu> aeon17x: Not a clue
[06:49] <aikon> D ???
[06:49] <aeon17x> yi: adobe reader is in the repositories... it's named acroread.
[06:50] <yi> aeon17x: apt-cache search acroread doesn't show it
[06:50] <D> sec...
[06:50] <aikon> kk
[06:50] <D> the first line shows 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost angelina
[06:50] <yi> aeon17x: i have both universe and multiverse
[06:50] <NoUse> !info acroread
[06:50] <ubotu> acroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22263 kB, Installed size: 53192 kB
[06:50] <D> then there are some ipv6 stuff i dont understand
[06:51] <NoUse> !tell yi about repos
[06:51] <aikon> jo thats okay
[06:51] <doubletwist> just love desktop support emergencies.. wheeee
[06:52] <aikon> have you configure the networks anytimes
[06:52] <aikon> or is that the first moment
[06:52] <Sionide> gah, upgrading to breezy broke my installation
[06:52] <spy> Umm i need help if anybody knows about Synaptic?
[06:52] <NoUse> Sionide define broke
[06:52] <Sionide> because "libofx2" seems to be broken
[06:52] <spy> Could you please pm me?
[06:52] <Sionide> or won't install properly
[06:52] <aikon> lol @ Sionide
[06:52] <D> i did the networkconfig by sudo before
[06:53] <aeon17x> !tell spy about synaptic
[06:53] <aikon> go to terminal and write
[06:53] <aikon> gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:53] <aikon> thats the place where ubuntu the networkconfig
[06:54] <Sionide> aikon, what's it got to do with netconfig?
[06:54] <aikon> my uncle have the same problems with libofxs2 because there was some problems with the paket GnuCash
[06:54] <spy> Well i only have the first CD Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" (Binary) Officially supported Restricted copyright checked is that ok?
[06:54] <yi> NoUse: i have multiverse
[06:54] <aikon> @ Sionide
[06:54] <aikon> nothing
[06:54] <yi> NoUse: i still don't see the package
[06:54] <Sionide> aikon, yeah gnucash - can i just get rid of gnucash ? what's the command for that? i don't really use it anyways
[06:54] <aikon> thas wasn to you
[06:54] <aikon> that was to D
[06:54] <NoUse> yi paste your sources.list do pastebin
[06:54] <spy> And nothing else is checked so what should be checked if i want to download packages to play mp3's?
[06:55] <NoUse> !tell yi about pastebin
[06:55] <zer0`> !mp3
[06:55] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[06:55] <D> aikon, ok it looks normal
[06:55] <aikon> mhm
[06:55] <zaphands> Hello, I have a problem setting a screen for nvidia. X won't start! Can anyone help? Xlog says: screen(s) found but no usable configurations.
[06:55] <Wellark> hi. rosetta is missing libgksuui1.0.. without it gksu can not be localized completely..
[06:55] <yi> NoUse: http://pastebin.com/407942
[06:56] <amarock> how do i use find command to search for dir named star?
[06:56] <sizzam> i want to run an app from a terminal, but i dont want  the terminal to stay open the whole time.   i want it to launch the executable, then close the terminal.  how do i do that?
[06:56] <Wellark> the buttons of the window are in libgksuui...
[06:56] <aikon> you must type
[06:56] <Sionide> sizzam, put a & after the command for the app
[06:56] <aikon> the name of the progamm and &
[06:56] <aikon> like
[06:56] <sizzam> thanks
[06:56] <aikon> firefox &
[06:56] <sizzam> so THATS what thats for
[06:56] <sizzam> lol
[06:56] <aikon> than you can close the terminal
[06:56] <Sionide> aikon, what can i do about the libofx2 thing?
[06:56] <davisti-3> hola
[06:56] <Wellark> so.. who desides what goes in rosetta?
[06:57] <Sionide> sudo apt-get --purge remove gnucash  <- aikon ?
[06:57] <NoUse> yi look at the official sources.list, you are using an odd multiverse repo
[06:57] <aikon> yes
[06:57] <D> aikon, thanks for the help ill try a couple of things on my own and than my be register a nick here and come back thank you very much !
[06:57] <aikon> orr apt-get install -f
[06:57] <NoUse> !tell yi about repos
[06:57] <Sionide> i just did the -f thing and it didn't work
[06:57] <Sionide> i think my locale settings are mucked up too
[06:57] <aikon> orr apt-get -f install
[06:58] <Sionide> what's the language-pack code for en_GB ?
[06:58] <smiroldo> hi there
[06:58] <aikon> i didnt know
[06:58] <aikon> iam german
[06:58] <yi> NoUse: ?
[06:58] <smiroldo> someone could help me with grub? i've problem booting windows
[06:58] <yi> NoUse: i'm using a mirror that's listed on ubuntu's site
[06:58] <yi> NoUse: what is "odd"?
[06:58] <doubletwist> Sionide dunno, I'm american, we don't speak English here. :)
[06:59] <doubletwist> smiroldo whats the problem?
[06:59] <Sionide> i thought it was en_GB
[06:59] <sizzam> ugh, this is killing me
[06:59] <chemisus> americans dont speak english?
[06:59] <Tido`> nope, we speak....um...American :P
[06:59] <doubletwist> chemisus Most of us don't seem to. :)
[06:59] <sizzam> im trying to make a shortcut to launch gmail in a firefox browser
[06:59] <Sionide> chemisus, they speak american english which is a messed up dialect
[06:59] <sizzam> if my login is saved, the browser closes
[06:59] <smiroldo> doubletwist, error13: invalid or unsupported executable format
[06:59] <sizzam> firefox http://www.gmail.com &
[06:59] <sizzam> if my login is not saved, it works
[07:00] <Sionide> ok brb
[07:00] <doubletwist> smiroldo That's a new one. What does the windows part of your /boot/grub/menu.lst say?
[07:01] <yi> NoUse: even replacing the mirror url with archive.ubuntu.com didn't help.
[07:01] <smiroldo> doubletwist, just a sec i'm booting linux... now i'm chatting on a second pc...hold on
[07:01] <chemisus> and now im walking down the stairs, one sec
[07:02] <doubletwist> smiroldo it should be something like: title Windows
[07:02] <doubletwist> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[07:02] <doubletwist> makeactive
[07:02] <doubletwist> chainloader +1
[07:02] <NoUse> yi have you run apt-get update?
[07:03] <Tido`> ugh, anyone have any ideas why a KVM works fine with Linux, but not with Window? And it says it supports Windows? It's a USB mouse and keyboard.
[07:03] <yi> yes..
[07:03] <NoUse> what does apt say when you 'sudo apt-get install acroread'?
[07:03] <aikon> because windows suckt
[07:04] <Tido`> lol, besides that :P
[07:04] <doubletwist> aikon I think that is taken as a given.
[07:04] <sizzam> wow,   firefox crashes if you set your homepage to www.gmail.com and save your login
[07:04] <NoUse> yi paste your sources.list to pastebin again
[07:05] <yi> ugh...
[07:05] <chemisus> sizzam, no it doesnt, just did it, worked perfectly fine
[07:05] <sizzam> chemisus:  is your login info saved
[07:05] <chemisus> sizzam, yep
[07:05] <sizzam> weird, wonder why mine is crashing
[07:06] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, back
[07:06] <sizzam> it crashes when it refreshes off of the 'loading' page
[07:06] <yi> NoUse: http://pastebin.com/407954
[07:06] <chemisus> sizzam, worked twice!
[07:06] <sizzam> chemisus, did you close your browser and reopen it
[07:06] <chemisus> sizzam, yep
[07:06] <sizzam> k
[07:06] <doubletwist> smiroldo K
[07:07] <sizzam> chemisus, must be an extension, i'll disable them all and enable one at a time
[07:07] <doubletwist> smiroldo: It should look like what's posted at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#GRUB_boot_menu
[07:08] <doubletwist> smiroldo: although it might also have a line that says 'savedefault'
[07:08] <doubletwist> smiroldo: the (hd0,0) part assumes that your windows parition is on the first partition of the first hard drive.
[07:08] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, the problem is that i've a ide one and a sata one...
[07:09] <doubletwist> smiroldo: ok, look at /boot/grub/device.map it will tell you which HD's it considers hd0, hd1 etc.
[07:10] <doubletwist> You can change that if you want it to for instance consider sda [your sata drive]  as hd0
[07:10] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, ok
[07:10] <doubletwist> I've had to do that in the past.
[07:10] <labluez> how do I install real in 5.10 ...I tried apt-get install realplayer but it said realplayer not found
[07:10] <doubletwist> Now I just boot off the ide drives.
[07:10] <labluez> whoops...nevermind ran apt-get update
[07:10] <labluez> sorry
[07:11] <NoUse> !info realplayer
[07:11] <ubotu> realplayer: (Real Player (installer)), section multiverse/net, is optional. Version: 8.0.11 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[07:11] <doubletwist> smiroldo: but WARNING! If you change that, you will also have to change your entries for linux as well!!!!
[07:11] <NoUse> !tell labluez about repos
[07:11] <doubletwist> smiroldo: or you won't be able to boot into linux either :)
[07:11] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, on the sata one i've both, linux and win, and is hd1
[07:11] <doubletwist> ok...
[07:11] <Sionide> aikon, the apt-get install -f command doesn't fix things, it gets an error overwriting /usr/share/libofx/dtd/opensp.dcl
[07:12] <yi> NoUse: any more ideas?
[07:12] <doubletwist> smiroldo: so your windows entry should have root (hd1,0)
[07:12] <aikon> thats a problem
[07:13] <aikon> we have fix the problem so
[07:13] <aikon> and than we type apt-get remove --purge gnucash
[07:13] <doubletwist> smiroldo: if you test that, and it works, then you can change the line that says "# groot=(hd0,0)" to say hd1,0 [keep the # there]  so that it will use the right setting when if apt-get upgrade upgrades grub
[07:13] <Sionide> aikon, that doesn't work
[07:13] <doubletwist> And they say linux has gotten easy. :)
[07:13] <targetx> it did
[07:14] <aikon> do you take a dis upgrade
[07:14] <aikon> orr a newinstall
[07:14] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, you right :)
[07:14] <doubletwist> smiroldo personall it'd probably just be easiest to change the device.map
[07:14] <doubletwist> smiroldo so that hd0 points to the HD that has linux and windows on it.
[07:15] <LinuxMute> hi all, can anybody help me with my ati drivers? i'm new to linux and i wish to play some games :)
[07:15] <NoUse> yi, nope sorry
[07:15] <doubletwist> LinuxMute: yeah, get an nvidia card! [just kidding] ... [mostly] 
[07:15] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, so i just invert it
[07:15] <LinuxMute> :(
[07:15] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxMute about ati
[07:16] <doubletwist> smiroldo: yes. THen just make sure the linux entries use hd0 and not hd1.
[07:16] <Sionide> aikon, dist-upgrade
[07:16] <LinuxMute> hope that will work thanks
[07:16] <aikon> mhm
[07:17] <stbain> Greetings all.  I like Ubuntu so much I decided to install it on an old iMac in addition to my x86 boxen. The initial install process went great, but after the CD ejected and the system rebooted, it's nothing but a blank screen while the HDD goes crazy in the background. Is this usual for a G3 iMac install?
[07:17] <doubletwist> I finally decided to stop booting off the sata drive because for some reason, if I had a USB or firewire drive plugged in and turned on, IT ended up being /dev/sda instead of the sata drive and it wouldn't boot :(
[07:19] <aikon> i thg you must do a newinstall
[07:19] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, ok i'm just modifying
[07:19] <blaise-> my gnome desktop is missing the main volume control at the upper right hand corner of the screen
[07:19] <Sionide> aikon, no way :s i have too much data i can't afford to lose
[07:19] <doubletwist> stbain I'd imagine that it's not usual, but i've never installed on a g3 imac, so I don't know :)
[07:19] <blaise-> amd64
[07:19] <aikon> havent you a extra home??
[07:19] <stbain> doubletwist: my sentiments exactly
[07:19] <doubletwist> Sionide: That's why I put my /home on separate HD [a raid1 mirror actually] .
[07:20] <doubletwist> Sionide So I can reinstall all I want, and my data is safe.
[07:20] <NoUse> stbain did you verify the ISO image and have you tried reinstalling?
[07:20] <stbain> ISO image is definitely good to go
[07:20] <stbain> this is first attempt
[07:20] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, so the linux line is: root            (hd0,5)
[07:20] <aikon> i think load the sources.list backup
[07:20] <Sionide> i just did a simple dist-upgrade, following the notes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes and it's mucked everything up :/
[07:20] <stbain> but since the HDD is going crazy, I didn't want to stop it and risk messing up the install process
[07:21] <aikon> and repair the old system
[07:21] <aikon> than deinstall gnucash
[07:21] <aikon> and do the dis uprgade
[07:21] <doubletwist> smiroldo_ Looks reasonable as long as in device.map hd0 points to the Hd linux is on, and your boot/root partition is on the first extended partition of that drive :)
[07:21] <Blank> hello everybody
[07:22] <runedude> hello all.. i have some sort of video card problem, (one i cant fix) and i need to get my network up so i can ssh to get to the box.. however, with my monitor messed up.. i dont have any display so i cant see whats going on , on the terminal.. is there any command i can run to automatically find a dhcp server and setup the network without much input?
[07:22] <doubletwist> runedude: is it even messed up if you boot into single user mode? [ie. console only, no gui] 
[07:22] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, the boot/root partition is on the first extender partition of the ide drive
[07:22] <runedude> oh no doubletwist its a video card problem.. i need to buy a new video card this weekend
[07:22] <doubletwist> runedude: or if you type CTRL-ALT-F1
[07:23] <doubletwist> ah
[07:23] <ubuntu> elo
[07:23] <runedude> i cant even see the display at all
[07:23] <runedude> all i have on my screen is distorted
[07:23] <runedude> so i just need to type commands here to get the dhcp server to give me an ip
[07:23] <doubletwist> runedude : well CTRL-ALT-F1 should get you to the console. Then enter your username, hit enter, enter password, hit enter and you will be at the shell...
[07:23] <doubletwist> runedude then 'dhclient' should get you an ip address
[07:23] <runedude> doubletwist: its not an ubuntu problem, its a system problem :P
[07:24] <Blank> hello everybody, after upgrading from hoary to breezy, i cant use the nvidia driver any more. ive been recompiling the nvidia kernel module several times, but xorg crashes after showing the nvidia logo for half a second.  Logfile says only: Fatal server error: caught signal 11           . any suggestions?? im desperate
[07:24] <aikon> reinstall nvidia driver
[07:25] <Blank> i did!
[07:25] <aikon> but??
[07:25] <delta> Hi.
[07:25] <Blank> i wont work
[07:25] <aikon> i have some problems with the linux-image and the linux-header
[07:25] <gand> I'm upgrading from 5.01 to 5.10 with apt-get dist-upgrade, where can I find a mirror list, instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[07:26] <Sionide> aikon, i'm gonna try going back to hoary then taking gnucash off then doing dist-upgrade again :s brb
[07:26] <aikon> because the image was k7 and the header 386
[07:26] <aikon> have you upgrade the linux-source
[07:26] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, i'm not good with grub, but yesterday evening my friend configure it for me, but i forgot to set the windows lines...
[07:26] <aikon> yes
[07:26] <delta> anyone using kile?
[07:26] <aikon> i think thats he best idea
[07:27] <doubletwist> smiroldo_ have you made any of those changes yet? [if not, don't] 
[07:27] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, not already saved
[07:27] <doubletwist> smiroldo_ ok, undo the changes.
[07:28] <runedude> doubletwist: not `dhclient eth0` ?
[07:28] <runedude> or just dhclient
[07:28] <doubletwist> smiroldo_ Which HD is the windows partition on?
[07:28] <targetx> lol episode 9 of southpark is hilarious :D
[07:28] <doubletwist> runedude that'll work too
[07:28] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, sata one
[07:28] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, and linux too...
[07:28] <runedude> doubletwist: hmm ok
[07:28] <Blank> hello everybody, after upgrading from hoary to breezy, i cant use the nvidia driver any more. ive been recompiling the nvidia kernel module several times, but xorg crashes after showing the nvidia logo for half a second.  Logfile says only: Fatal server error: caught signal 11           . any suggestions?? im desperate
[07:28] <doubletwist> smiroldo_ ok, in the device map, which hd is sda listed as?
[07:28] <runedude> well i hve a choice: either i use this card thats screwed up, or i can use a card that doesnt have a heatsink on it
[07:29] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, hd1
[07:29] <myongoh> Hello - I have just instaed ubuntu:) now I want to register my irc nick name but do not understand where I should write that (/msg nickserv register <your-password>) and where do I set my nickname and passeword? Could you help me?
[07:29] <doubletwist> smiroldo_ ok, then your windows section should look like this:
[07:29] <doubletwist> title Windows
[07:29] <modifiyd> hello
[07:29] <doubletwist> rootnoverify (hd1,0)
[07:29] <doubletwist> makeactive
[07:29] <modifiyd> need help
[07:29] <doubletwist> chainloader +1
[07:30] <modifiyd> audigy ls sound probs
[07:30] <doubletwist> smiroldo_ make it look like that, save it and reboot and see if it works.
[07:30] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, ok i'll modify!
[07:30] <smiroldo_> doubletwist, brb
[07:31] <gand> myongoh type it as you type to send a message here
[07:31] <myongoh> ok
[07:32] <Bicchi> i am running breezy AMD64 and I have a program whose dependencies are CUPS but for 32 bits. How do i install the CUPS 32 bit library ?
[07:32] <modifiyd> yea sim problem here
[07:32] <Dekkard> anyone haveing any crashes with the update manager?
[07:32] <doubletwist> didn't know there were programs that were so picky as to require a 32bit cups.
[07:33] <Bicchi> doubletwist: yamipod
[07:33] <modifiyd> im runnig the 64 bit ubuntu and i need help with my sound
[07:34] <doubletwist> why does an ipod program need access to the printers? And why doesn't it just send a print job like everything else?
[07:34] <Dekkard> modifiyd,  did you already mess with sound in the prefs?
[07:34] <modifiyd> nope
[07:35] <Dekkard> give it a shot
[07:35] <donar73> good evening
[07:35] <modifiyd> i avent used unbuntu bafor
[07:35] <modifiyd> befor*
[07:35] <Dekkard> ok.. well.. this is sort of a gnome thang
[07:35] <modifiyd> where's that at?
[07:35] <Dekkard> system.preferences.sound
[07:35] <Bicchi> doubletwist: not sure, the programmer of yamipod told me that i needed the 32bit version of the CUPS library. Not exactly sure he is using it to send output to the printer.
[07:35] <Dekkard> oops system>preferences>sound
[07:35] <Dekkard> top bar...
[07:35] <modifiyd> i have been here
[07:36] <smiroldo> doubletwist, back with no good news
[07:36] <modifiyd> all it say's here is ca0106
[07:36] <doubletwist> smiroldo bummer :)
[07:36] <doubletwist> smiroldo what did it do?
[07:36] <Dekkard> do you have sound server enabled?
[07:36] <smiroldo> doubletwist,  he told me the same error 13
[07:36] <modifiyd> checked yes
[07:36] <modifiyd> and for events aswell
[07:37] <joetheodd> Is there any way to put "Run Application" back in my applications menu after upgrading to breezy?
[07:37] <aeon17x> I second what joetheodd said.
[07:37] <tristanmike> modifiyd, have you right clicked the "Volume Control" and select preferences and toyed around there too?
[07:37] <doubletwist> smiroldo does it start loading windows at all?
[07:37] <Xenguy> joetheodd: Alt-F2 works in a pinch
[07:37] <Dekkard> got your volume turned up?
[07:37] <smiroldo> doubletwist, no
[07:38] <modifiyd> dek yes
[07:38] <modifiyd> trist where?
[07:38] <Xenguy> joetheodd: (IIRC)
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> :) i always have a few term windows open.
[07:38] <tristanmike> modifiyd, on the...top panel perhaps, it is for me, the little speaker icon
[07:38] <aeon17x> Xenguy: anyway to get that into a launcher?
[07:38] <Dekkard> ok..try this..system>preferences>multimedia
[07:38] <doubletwist> smiroldo It might be windows complaining that its not on what's considered the "first" hard drive.
[07:38] <djp> can anyone tell me how i go about making an iso that keeps the directory structure? basically i want to make an iso that includes 1 directory. however when i used this command, sudo mkisofs -v -o cd1.iso -RJ *, in the directory above the one that i want in the iso image, my final burned cd only includes all the files within the directory that i wanted to be on the cd! (i hope that makes sense!) any advice as to where i am goi
[07:38] <djp> ng wrong?
[07:39] <doubletwist> smiroldo it might work if you modify the device.map to make it hd0 and change your menu.list accordingly.
[07:39] <Xenguy> aeon17x: there must be; isn't there a menu editor somewhere?
[07:39] <modifiyd> dek been here
[07:39] <modifiyd> trist its on
[07:39] <doubletwist> smiroldo And make sure in your BIOS that it's the first HD considered for boot.
[07:39] <Xenguy> aeon17x: sorry gotta jet
[07:39] <Dekkard> did the sound setup work??
[07:39] <Dekkard>  did you get tones?
[07:39] <doubletwist> smiroldo beyond that, I don't know.
[07:40] <modifiyd> nope
[07:40] <smiroldo> doubletwist, i try, so i invert all the "0" with one
[07:40] <modifiyd> the alsa
[07:40] <musik> how do i unmount /dev/hda6?
[07:40] <Dekkard> did you change the sound daemon?
[07:40] <egoleo> any game like fifa 2003 on linux?
[07:40] <doubletwist> smiroldo yeah
[07:40] <modifiyd> failed to construck
[07:40] <joetheodd> Xenguy: smeg, but it doesn't allow a run application thing.
[07:40] <tristanmike> modifiyd, if you right click and select preferences, you should get a whole slew of different options
[07:40] <modifiyd> all that does is test
[07:40] <musik> is an ext2 partition problematic in anyway??
[07:40] <joetheodd> Xenguy: Alt+F2 worked though =)
[07:40] <Amaranth> Run Application is gone forever from the menus
[07:40] <HappyFool> musik: try 'sudo umount /dev/hda6'
[07:41] <Dekkard> well if it cant construct a pipe you wont have sound...
[07:41] <modifiyd> thats alsa
[07:41] <aeon17x> Amaranth: </insert Darth Vader "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO" here>
[07:41] <Dekkard> you need to try the other osudn daemons
[07:41] <modifiyd> sound deamon just says testing
[07:41] <Dekkard> sound
[07:41] <modifiyd> i did
[07:41] <musik> HappyFool: sudo: unmount: command not found
[07:41] <Dekkard> ok..
[07:41] <aeon17x> musik: use umount.
[07:41] <HappyFool> musik: 'umount' -- no n after u
[07:41] <Dekkard> have you looked for a driver for your sound card?
[07:41] <smiroldo> doubletwist, brb again.... rebooting
[07:42] <modifiyd> yea
[07:42] <musik> HappyFool: oh....thx:)
[07:42] <HappyFool> musik: from the same guys (i presume) who brought you 'cp', 'rm' and 'creat'
[07:42] <modifiyd> crap too many windows
[07:42] <Dekkard> ok.. and???????
[07:42] <modifiyd> hangon
[07:42] <modifiyd> ok
[07:43] <modifiyd> emu10k1
[07:43] <modifiyd> its a sound balaster audigy ls
[07:43] <Dekkard> now you lost me
[07:43] <Dekkard> ok..
[07:43] <smiroldo> doubletwist, back and windows boot!!!!! thank you so much...now i can play gta san andreas!
[07:43] <Dekkard> have you tried the wiki  or forums?
[07:44] <doubletwist> smiroldo sweet
[07:44] <modifiyd> nope i just installed this
[07:44] <modifiyd> bout 2 hours ago
[07:44] <Dekkard> k
[07:44] <modifiyd> ran the live cd liked it
[07:44] <Dekkard> you should try the wiki , or forums..
[07:44] <modifiyd> i run way to many os's
[07:44] <ompaul> modifiyd, start alsa mixer and check for mute in there
[07:44] <modifiyd> kk
[07:44] <modifiyd> no the alsa cant biuld a pipe
[07:45] <Dekkard> try osd
[07:45] <Dekkard> oops esd
[07:45] <HappyFool> !sound
[07:45] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[07:45] <tristanmike> modifiyd, check for a "Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack" or something similar
[07:45] <musik> ......./dev/hda6: clean......does this mean its nice & clean:)???
[07:45] <smiroldo> doubletwist, now is not booting linux but i know the problem and now i fix it...thank you again!
[07:45] <ompaul> modifiyd,  alsamixer does not work for you?
[07:46] <modifiyd> if i test it cant build a pipe it says
[07:46] <Stukkm> Um... I think I broke my apt. Can I get some help here?
[07:47] <ompaul> modifiyd, how do you mean test?
[07:47] <doubletwist> smiroldo glad I could help. :)
[07:47] <modifiyd> multimedia sys selector
[07:47] <ompaul> Stukkm, how did you think you broke it
[07:47] <tristanmike> Stukkm, just ask away, and if someone can help, I'm sure they will
[07:47] <modifiyd> alsa pipeline test
[07:47] <modifiyd> the only 1 that works is esd
[07:48] <modifiyd> but i get no sound
[07:48] <ompaul> modifiyd, no - I said run the program, I meant in a terminal - applications - accessories - terminal
[07:48] <modifiyd> it says testing thats all
[07:48] <startxwhite2> hi i have a 2.5 gig hd and 3 partitions    /dev/hda1   1307Mb   /dev/hda2 707Mb  and /dev/hda3   542Mb. How can i merge hda1 and hda2 to form one single partition /dev/hda1 and then recreate hda3 as hda2 which will be swap?? without destroying data on hda1. hda2 and hda3 are expendable
[07:48] <Stukkm> I was having some problems before with "sudo apt-get update". Something happened when I tried to add repositories and even changing sources.list back to the original did nothing
[07:48] <musik> ......./dev/hda6: clean......does this mean its nice & clean:)???.....after e2fsck......
[07:48] <modifiyd> ok dude i havent used linux in ages
[07:48] <Stukkm> So I did "rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/"
[07:48] <HappyFool> musik: it just means you can mount it without problems
[07:49] <modifiyd> got terminal up what now?
[07:49] <Stukkm> I saw the directory on the ubuntuguide about backing up and restoring the apt cache (and I didn't back it up before), so I figured: Hey, clear the cache and start over...
[07:49] <musik> but on almost every bootup it says it was not ceanly mounted..what cud be prob???
[07:49] <musik> HappyFool: but on almost every bootup it says it was not ceanly mounted..what cud be prob???
[07:49] <patrick_> hi all
[07:49] <HappyFool> musik: i think it roughly means the filesystem is in a consistent state. you can lose consistency if you reboot without properly shutting down
[07:49] <Stukkm> So, now it looks like I'm a little bit screwed
[07:50] <lon3tree> hi guys
[07:50] <HappyFool> musik: at a guess you are 'hard' booting (pushing the reset button) or having power failures
[07:50] <ompaul> Stukkm, when you changed them back did you "sudo apt-get update"?
[07:50] <lon3tree> anyone can help me with wpa-psk in ubuntu?
[07:50] <Stukkm> Yep, that's when I got errors
[07:50] <musik> HappyFool: i always shut down properly...and i get this even without power failures.....
[07:50] <Stukkm> Not raelly "errors" more like "warnings"
[07:50] <patrick_> I have dwnload some files  with amule, but I can't find it ???
[07:50] <tristanmike> !tell Stukkm about ubuntuguide
[07:50] <lon3tree> ut seems that I can't get it to automate at startup
[07:50] <coolkev> how much longer before ubuntu starts shipping their cds, i ordered the cds on October 10th and it's 27th today
[07:50] <lon3tree> anyone?
[07:51] <Amaranth> coolkev: see you in 5 months
[07:51] <patrick_> in what can Ifind it ??
[07:51] <doubletwist> patrick_ I think it puts them in ~/.aMule/Incoming
[07:51] <Amaranth> coolkev: seriously, i just got my hoary CDs 6 weeks ago
[07:51] <Stukkm> tristanmike: I already know about it... hmm, why didn't I get nick notified?
[07:51] <coolkev> when did u order them
[07:51] <HappyFool> musik: as far as i know, an 'unclean' partition is one which was not properly unmounted. You can maybe check in the shutdown sequence if there are errors when /dev/hda6 is unmounted
[07:51] <doubletwist> patrick_ Although you can set in the preferences to have it put them elsewhere I think.
[07:51] <Amaranth> coolkev: couple days before hoary released
[07:51] <patrick_> I take a look , thx ;)
[07:51] <tristanmike> Stukkm, you need to register to get pm's from ubotu
[07:51] <ompaul> Stukkm, paste the replies you are getting into paste.ubuntulinux.nl and then paste the url here
[07:52] <coolkev> damn
[07:52] <lon3tree> anyone please me on wpa-psk issue please
[07:52] <musik> is an ext2 partition problematic in anyway??
[07:52] <Amaranth> musik: ext3 is better
[07:52] <musik> hda6 is ext2
[07:52] <coolkev> musik: no it's very good, just doesn't have journalling
[07:52] <HappyFool> musik: not usually; not if it's properly unmounted
[07:52] <doubletwist> musik no, it'll just require an fsck if it's not unmounted cleanly.
[07:52] <lon3tree> sigh
[07:52] <TTilus> lon3tree: just ask your question
[07:52] <modifiyd> ^^ he did
[07:52] <lon3tree> didn't i spelled out my question TTilus
[07:52] <delta> anyone using kile?
[07:52] <psusi> ext3 is more resistant to not being cleanly unmounted... but is slower than ext2
[07:53] <Stukkm> ompaul: well, it's a bit late for that. After rm'ing that directory I get "E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing."
[07:53] <TTilus> lon3tree: yes you propably did
[07:53] <coolkev> muzik: ext2 is even faster then ext3
[07:53] <modifiyd> :P
[07:53] <coolkev> ext2 is one fo the fastest file systems out there
[07:53] <TTilus> lon3tree: i arrived just like 3 sec ago  :)
[07:53] <patrick_> bin, dev, ect ????
[07:53] <TTilus> lon3tree: (waite a sec)
[07:53] <lon3tree> ya so dun make this comment then
[07:53] <HappyFool> Stukkm: tried 'sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial' ?
[07:53] <lon3tree> sorry to be hush
[07:53] <lon3tree> TTilus
[07:54] <patrick_> sorry but i'am a new inux user
[07:54] <psusi> coolkev: reiser3/4 are faster, and don't require a long fsck after a crash
[07:54] <doubletwist> patrick_ what about bin, dev etc?
[07:54] <coolkev> psusi: I've seen results where ext2 is faster
[07:54] <coolkev> in data access and file read
[07:54] <lon3tree> so can you help me TTilus?
[07:54] <doubletwist> patrick_ if you mean for .aMule the ~ in ~/.aMule means your home directory.
[07:55] <doubletwist> afkb - stupid conference...
[07:55] <Stukkm> Well, crap. Thanks, HappyFool, for pointing out the such a simple solution :D
[07:55] <psusi> coolkev: there are a ton of bunchmarks at namesys.com that show reiserfs to be faster than ext2 in almost every category... sometimes a little, sometimes a lot
[07:55] <patrick_> I don't know in what dir
[07:55] <Stukkm> Now I can post the errors I'm getting
[07:55] <Alex_BO2> HELLO!I'd like to receive the system e-mail into my inbox.how can i do?
[07:55] <HappyFool> Stukkm: on the pastebin, not here please
[07:55] <coolkev> can breezy be installed on a resier4 fs?
[07:55] <Stukkm> Yes, of course
[07:55] <thirso> dasdas
[07:55] <patrick_> nothing in my home directory ??
[07:55] <xet7> Is OO.org2 on ubuntu compiled with gcj? What it uses, so that Base works?
[07:56] <psusi> coolkev: no, ubuntu only supports reiser3
[07:56] <coolkev> why? is resier4 still in beta stages?
[07:56] <HappyFool> Alex_BO2: the /etc/aliases file is probably what you want
[07:56] <Stukkm> Zounds! I've fixed it!
[07:56] <HappyFool> Alex_BO2: mine has automatically been setup to forward root's mail to me
[07:56] <Alex_BO2> HappyFool, let me see
[07:56] <psusi> coolkev: sort of...
[07:57] <TTilus> lon3tree: what do you mean by "automate at startup"
[07:57] <coolkev> i taught it was supported in the new kernals availble
[07:57] <TTilus> lon3tree: want it to start automatically at bootup or?
[07:57] <psusi> one of these days I'm going to build a custom kernel with reiser4 support, and switch over and do some of my own benchmarking
[07:57] <tristanmike> Stukkm, that's good, how did you do it?
[07:57] <psusi> nope, reiser4 isn't in the official kernel yet
[07:57] <lon3tree> TTilus, wat i mean is I want my notebook to obtain an ip from the router on system start up
[07:57] <TTilus> psusi: when you are done, publish the results and let me know too
[07:57] <Stukkm> Well, first I did what HappyFool is and just made the directory, and then I took the cdrom line out of the source.list
[07:58] <lon3tree> are you using wpa-psk too?
[07:58] <psusi> TTilus: heh... ok
[07:58] <Stukkm> Now I'm going to look into this help file thingy
[07:58] <psusi> right now what I'd really like to get working though is suspend and hibernation
[07:58] <tristanmike> Stukkm, glad to hear it :)
[07:58] <psusi> but I still have some cleaning up to do for hardware fakeraid support that I managed to get going
[07:59] <psusi> need to make a few patches and update the howto wiki I made
[07:59] <TTilus> lon3tree: to be honest, i have no idea what wpa-psk is.
[07:59] <lon3tree> oh
[07:59] <lon3tree> ok
[07:59] <GamanAm> brb
[07:59] <lon3tree> thanks for the help anyway
[07:59] <psusi> reiser4 does look very interesting though
[08:00] <holycow> hey guys
[08:00] <holycow> a couple of questions
[08:00] <TTilus> lon3tree: your router runs dhcp and leases ip addresses?
[08:00] <lon3tree> yup
[08:00] <TTilus> lon3tree: so you need dhcp client
[08:00] <holycow> why does the gnome splash screen default to debian on breezy, and why does open office have those ugly icons in the apps menu?
[08:00] <Xitium> is there a linux irc client like mIRC that lets you do scripting and such?
[08:00] <psusi> but right now I'm trying to figure out what breakage is causing the amd64 build of ubuntu to eat ram like it's going out of style
[08:00] <TTilus> lon3tree: but what the hec is wpa-psk
[08:00] <lon3tree> wat do you mean TTilus
[08:01] <HappyFool> Xitium: i think xchat is mirc-like
[08:01] <TTilus> lon3tree: mean by what?
[08:01] <lon3tree> wat do you  mean by dhcp client?
[08:01] <TTilus> lon3tree: what was the unclear part?
[08:01] <TTilus> lon3tree: ah, it's the piece of software which handles the address retrieval
[08:02] <lon3tree> do i really need that?
[08:02] <crimsun> occy: the theme is included in the tarball
[08:02] <occy> crimsun, heh
[08:02] <lon3tree> I thought my wireless card could do that?
[08:02] <occy> howdy bud
[08:02] <MeisterQ> hi
[08:02] <Xitium> how come everytime I restart I have to reset my clock?
[08:02] <occy> crimsun, 9 days to IMFL
[08:02] <crimsun> occy: nice
[08:02] <TTilus> lon3tree: if you want to retrieve an ip automatically thats what you need
[08:02] <lon3tree> occy , are you ezeedin?
[08:02] <occy> lon3tree, sorry?
[08:02] <TTilus> lon3tree: check dhcp3-client -package
[08:03] <lon3tree> occy, I'm asking if you are ezeedin, a name
[08:03] <MeisterQ> some german here?
[08:03] <occy> lon3tree, heh, no, I'm Trae
[08:03] <occy> heh
[08:03] <occy> aka: occy
[08:03] <occy> *chuckle*
[08:03] <TTilus> lon3tree: ?
[08:03] <HappyFool> !de
[08:03] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[08:03] <Seven> !gcc
[08:03] <lon3tree> occy: sorry
[08:03] <ubotu> methinks gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.
[08:03] <TTilus> lon3tree: oops, sorry
[08:04] <MeisterQ> #ubuntu-de
[08:04] <lon3tree> TTilus, but I dun understand
[08:04] <HappyFool> MeisterQ: /join #ubuntu-de
[08:04] <lon3tree> if I use WEP, I can get IP from the router
[08:04] <coz> Hello all
[08:04] <lon3tree> why do I need this piece of software?
[08:04] <TTilus> lon3tree: aa, you are wireless
[08:04] <Seven> anyone has any idea why the hell the C libraries didn't get installed with my gcc?
[08:04] <psusi> lon3tree: what is your question?
[08:04] <MeisterQ> thx
[08:05] <HappyFool> Seven: install 'build-essential'
[08:05] <lon3tree> psusi : I am trying to make wpa work on my notebook
[08:05] <HappyFool> Seven: will install libc6-dev too
[08:05] <Seven> HappyFool, thank you ;)
[08:05] <coz> has anyone tried ubuntu on a pen tablet yet?
[08:05] <lon3tree> psusi: I installed wpasupplicant and it seems to work if I do it manually
[08:05] <psusi> lon3tree: ohh... what's wrong with WEP?
[08:05] <TTilus> lon3tree: can you get your net up and running manually?
[08:05] <lon3tree> psusi: but if I do it as a shell script on start up, it doesn;t work at all
[08:06] <TTilus> lon3tree: have you read logs?
[08:06] <lon3tree> psusi, nothing wrong with WEP actually
[08:06] <Seven> HappyFool: you just saved my life man :P
[08:06] <TTilus> lon3tree: any traces in dmesg?
[08:06] <lon3tree> I am just switching over to wpa
[08:06] <Alex_BO2> how do I access my local unix mailbox from thunderbird?
[08:06] <psusi> I see...
[08:06] <HappyFool> Seven: np. bear in mind you may need more -dev packages for whatever you're compiling. 'apt-get build-dep' can be very useful
[08:06] <bur[n] er> has anyone seen rhythmbox 0.9.1 packages for x86?
[08:07] <TTilus> Alex_BO2: /var/spool/mail/[username] 
[08:07] <TTilus> Alex_BO2: (just a guess)
[08:07] <lon3tree> no traces TTilus
[08:07] <Seven> HappyFool: thank you once again i owe you one
[08:07] <lon3tree> so any one here use wpa for wireless?
[08:07] <hemppa> hi, i have problem with printing in breezy. my printer is hp710c. job get stuck to the print queue.
[08:08] <TTilus> lon3tree: are you sure it tryes to do the same on bootup than you do manually?
[08:08] <crimsun> lon3tree: I do
[08:08] <lon3tree> perhaps can share
[08:08] <lon3tree> great, crimsun
[08:08] <TTilus> bur[n] er: Good!!!
[08:08] <Seven> !emacs
[08:08] <ubotu> Seven: I don't know
[08:09] <HappyFool> Seven: not on the CD (alas!). you need to get it via apt
[08:09] <crimsun> lon3tree: do you need something with wpasupplicant?
[08:09] <lon3tree> wat are you using crimsun? ipw or ndiswrapper, or madwifi?
[08:09] <Alex_BO2> TTilus, there is the system e-mail there
[08:09] <lon3tree> yes I do crimsun
[08:09] <icewalker> Hi, changed everything "breezy" to "dapper" in sources.list, after an update there where just 6 packages to upgrade. Is dapper still the same as breezy and time needed to get bleeding edge in?
[08:09] <Alex_BO2> TTilus, but i'd like to receive it in thunderbird
[08:09] <TTilus> Alex_BO2: "system email"?
[08:09] <crimsun> lon3tree: wpasupplicant on ipw2200
[08:09] <HappyFool> Seven: i think the top-level package is emacs21 -- so 'sudo apt-get install emacs-21' ought to work
[08:09] <lon3tree> oh
[08:10] <lon3tree> crimsun, I'm using atheros chipset and I suppose it is madwifi
[08:10] <HappyFool> icewalker: i think you might be jumping the gun ;)
[08:10] <Alex_BO2> TTilus, yes: the system messages that you can see in /var/mail/[user] 
[08:10] <TTilus> Alex_BO2: can't you set up your TB account so that inbox is /var/spool/... and you dont use imap/pop retrieval?
[08:10] <crimsun> lon3tree: works fine with wpasupplicant
[08:10] <bur[n] er> icewalker: dapper has gnome 2.13.1 stuff already
[08:10] <tristanmike> icewalker, Dapper is the next release, perhaps sometime in April of next year, and considering Breezy was just released like a week and half ago, yeah, you might be jumping the gun
[08:10] <lon3tree> i can do it manually
[08:10] <HappyFool> Seven: oops, 'sudo apt-get install emacs21', of course
[08:10] <richie_> I installed the nvidia-glx package and typed the "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" command. When I rebooted, X Crashed and said the driver wasnt there.
[08:10] <bur[n] er> icewalker: i had 206 packages to upgrade
[08:10] <richie_> Heres the log: http://www.richieward.com/filedump/Xorg.0.log.old
[08:10] <[A] ndy80> I'm compiling a package on ubuntu 5.10 and it requires  libgtkhtml-3.0 but I cannot find it in any repository. Which package do I have to install?
[08:10] <lon3tree> crimsun, how do you start up your wireless?
[08:11] <Alex_BO2> TTilus: uhm...let me see
[08:11] <Seven> HappyFool: heh gee thanks once more... i was getting kind of worried :P
[08:11] <richie_> Any ideas why?
[08:11] <TooSad> hi
[08:11] <lon3tree> by shell script?
[08:11] <TTilus> lon3tree: double check what you have in /etc/rc...
[08:11] <thirso> richie_. whats ur vga?
[08:11] <richie_> thirso: what you mean?
[08:11] <TooSad> why my arrow of mouse is always black?
[08:11] <thirso> ur card
[08:11] <lon3tree> TTilus, thanks a lot
[08:11] <richie_> thirso: I have a Geforce 3 TI 500
[08:11] <lon3tree> I have check that upteem times
[08:11] <icewalker> bur[n] er: can't be. havnt seen anything like that. is it enough replacing dapper with breezy or is there more?
[08:11] <TTilus> lon3tree: :)
[08:11] <lon3tree> thanks
[08:11] <richie_> thirso: nothing special :)
[08:12] <bur[n] er> icewalker: that's all i did
[08:12] <icewalker> tristanmike: HappyFool, well I like bleeding edge :)
[08:12] <lon3tree> crimsun
[08:12] <icewalker> bur[n] er: odd
[08:12] <bur[n] er> icewalker: be prepared for "broken" too witht hat bleedign edge
[08:12] <TTilus> lon3tree: next thing would be to backup the startup script and add debugging output yourself
[08:12] <bur[n] er> icewalker: also... maybe your mirror isn't updated yet
[08:12] <TooSad> why my arrow of mouse is always black? it should be white?
[08:12] <Alex_BO2> TTilus, no i can't
[08:12] <HappyFool> 'torn-tissue-and-fractured-bone' edge
[08:13] <bur[n] er> TooSad: change it if you don't like it
[08:13] <lon3tree> TTilus, i would be delighted if you could help me on this debugging thing
[08:13] <icewalker> bur[n] er: have always ran bleeding gnome on gentoo. never had major breakage. just little issues. gnome doesn't change that much in unstable :)
[08:13] <TTilus> lon3tree: print out things which reveal whats happening
[08:13] <crimsun> lon3tree: it's started on boot automatically when ipw2200.ko is loaded
[08:13] <seife> How do i install a font pack that is on a .tar.gz file?
[08:13] <icewalker> bur[n] er: the mirror. that should be it
[08:13] <bur[n] er> icewalker: it's not just "gnome" it's everything... X, hal, dbus, etc.
[08:13] <crimsun> lon3tree: then wpasupplicant starts
[08:13] <thirso> richie_. have you tried to apt-get remove --purge it and get it again?
[08:14] <richie_> thirso, I could try...
[08:14] <TooSad> bur[n] er how can i change the color?
[08:14] <bur[n] er> icewalker: i'm just saying be prepared ;)
[08:14] <icewalker> bur[n] er: true. hmm, but I could always revert back :)
[08:14] <lon3tree> crimsun, can you post your wpasupplicant.conf file?
[08:14] <bur[n] er> TooSad: system -> preferecnes -> cursor selection
[08:14] <TTilus> lon3tree: is it a script you use to kick net on?
[08:14] <crimsun> lon3tree: there's an example one in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[08:15] <lon3tree> yes crimsun, i followed thru
[08:15] <lon3tree> and it din work
[08:15] <alekz> how can i install a .tar.gz fonts package ?
[08:15] <lon3tree> but manually it does work
[08:15] <TTilus> lon3tree: what do you exactly do when you bring up net?
[08:15] <TooSad> bur[n] er i have selected the Human cursor, i have only this
[08:16] <lon3tree> wat do you mean TTilus
[08:16] <TTilus> lon3tree: $ ifup all
[08:16] <bur[n] er> TooSad: get more from gnomelook.org :)
[08:16] <TTilus> lon3tree: ?
[08:16] <icewalker> bur[n] er: can I have your sources.list?
[08:16] <TTilus> lon3tree: what do you run/click when you turn your net on manually
[08:17] <lon3tree> TTilus, I run the wpa command to make it work
[08:17] <lon3tree> and it just work
[08:17] <TTilus> Alex_BO2: toobad
[08:17] <TooSad> bur[n] er initially the cursor was white, when i have installed ubuntu, yesterday it is became black, why?
[08:17] <TTilus> lon3tree: what says which wpa?
[08:17] <lon3tree> but it does not work automatically when system starts
[08:17] <nagual> Hey everyone.  I am trying to follow a guide located at http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.04_p4, and have gotten to the postfix part.  The guide says i need to install libsas12, but when i try and apt-get install it says "couldn't find package libsas12.  Anybody know of a substitute for this?
[08:17] <ams_> Do any of you know where I can get a H264 codec?
[08:17] <TTilus> lon3tree: if you issue command "which wpa"
[08:18] <bur[n] er> TooSad: got me... reboot ;)
[08:18] <KursK> I have alsa with oss support installed, but it seems that the inline is only forwarded on the also output but not the oss device, any idea?
[08:18] <HappyFool> nagual: is libsasl2 -- ell 2, not one 2
[08:18] <nagual> let me check,
[08:18] <crimsun> KursK: please restate clearly.
[08:18] <TooSad> bur[n] er just made it
[08:18] <ams_> Do any of you know where I can get a H264 codec?
[08:18] <TooSad> bur[n] er nothing
[08:19] <crimsun> lon3tree: what's the precise syntax you use to invoke wpa_supplicant manually?
[08:19] <nagual> Thx HappyFool.  That worked.  I feel like a noob now.
[08:19] <lon3tree> sudo wpa_supplicant -B -i ath0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w -d , TTilus
[08:19] <KursK> crimsun, basically, I want that all I feed in the inline of the soundcard on /dev/dsp
[08:19] <alekz> anyone knows why aMSN dont get my fonts from ~/.fonts ?
[08:19] <CookedGryphon> could somebody help me? I'm tryign to onnect to a folder on a serer, my user space on my uni's network, but I can't browse samba files or connect to the folder, as it keeps asking for a username and password, then when i type in my password, the same box just coems up again and again
[08:20] <crimsun> KursK: that's still unclear
[08:20] <HappyFool> CookedGryphon: is it a windows domain ? (ADS or whatever)
[08:20] <TTilus> lon3tree: where that command is run from during startup?
[08:20] <KursK> crimsun, what is not clear?
[08:20] <bur[n] er> CookedGryphon: alt+f2, nautilus smb://servername   work?
[08:20] <crimsun> KursK: do you want to hear on your speakers everything that is piped in through line-in?
[08:20] <sweeny> i'm trying to run fpga advantage (proprietary vhdl design software) and i'm getting the error "Could not create FontSet for font '-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*'."
[08:20] <lon3tree> '/etc/init.d
[08:21] <sweeny> any ideas?
[08:21] <KursK> crimsun, yes! Actually, I do but it's not played via /dev/dsp
[08:21] <TTilus> lon3tree: no i mean where its run, i.e. where its linked to?
[08:21] <crimsun> KursK: why are you concerned with /dev/dsp? It's not ALSA-related.
[08:22] <crimsun> lon3tree: and what's the command line specified in /etc/default/wpasupplicant ?
[08:22] <lon3tree> TTilus, basically, I have this shell script that is run in /etc/init.d/ and link to rcS.d
[08:22] <ams_> where can i find a quicktime codec
[08:22] <KursK> crimsun, that's the deal, I got an app which only takes the stuff from /dev/dsp
[08:22] <crimsun> KursK: what app?
[08:22] <TTilus> lon3tree: on what phase its run on rcS.d?
[08:23] <lon3tree> crimsun, you mean the option part?
[08:23] <HappyFool> sweeny: hmm. i'm no font guru but on my machine 'xlsfonts -fn -adobe-helvetica-medium-\*' lists a lot of font names
[08:23] <KursK> darkice
[08:23] <sweeny> same here, HappyFool
[08:23] <crimsun> lon3tree: uh no, it should exist in rc2.d, not rcS.d
[08:23] <lon3tree> TTilus 40
[08:23] <sweeny> i don't understand why this software can't see it
[08:23] <TTilus> mm
[08:23] <crimsun> lon3tree: installing wpasupplicant automatically creates the correct symlinks with update-rc.d
[08:24] <crimsun> KursK: why not use icecast2 instead?
[08:24] <crimsun> KursK: with ices2?
[08:24] <KursK> crimsum, mh I need mp3...doesn't icecast only play ogg?
[08:24] <lon3tree> but the guides showed me to put to rcS.d
[08:25] <crimsun> KursK: do you mean you need output -encoded- as mp3?
[08:25] <lon3tree> so wat should I do, crimsun
[08:25] <KursK> crimsun, no, output
[08:25] <crimsun> lon3tree: how precisely did you install wpasupplicant?
[08:25] <TTilus> lon3tree: mmm... is that something which should be run before or after 'networking' is started?
[08:25] <crimsun> TTilus: wpasupplicant runs after networking runs
[08:25] <VooDoo> evenin all
[08:25] <TTilus> lon3tree: do you have /etc/rcS.d/S40networking
[08:26] <lon3tree> i followed exactly, crimsun, except the -i and -D part
[08:26] <lon3tree> yes I do TTilus
[08:26] <crimsun> lon3tree: no. From where did you install it?
[08:26] <Under^Uni> is ubuntu just 1 cd?
[08:26] <crimsun> Under^Uni: yes
[08:26] <HappyFool> not if you want emacs *sniffle*
[08:26] <KursK> crimsun, sorry, I mean, output on icecast server should be mp3
[08:26] <Under^Uni> how come its smaller than other linux vesion?
[08:27] <lon3tree> crimsun, universe i suppose
[08:27] <lon3tree> i just do an apt-get
[08:27] <KursK> oh okay it does mp3
[08:27] <TTilus> lon3tree: so interfaces are tried to turn on _before_ you wlan thingie runs
[08:27] <NoUse> Under^Uni they don't put the whole library of software on the installation media
[08:27] <sweeny> i installed the gsfonts-x11 package, which claims to make the ghostscript fonts available to x11 including the "adobe" aliases
[08:27] <crimsun> lon3tree: if you used the package from Ubuntu's repository, it's set up correctly by default
[08:27] <CookedGryphon> bur[n] er: no that doesn't work, it asks for a password
[08:27] <crimsun> lon3tree: you should not have changed the rc*.d symlinks
[08:28] <[devil-boy] > man
[08:28] <lon3tree> crimsun, i did an apt-get install wpasupplicant
[08:28] <[devil-boy] > i can't get my external wireless card working
[08:28] <HappyFool> Under^Uni: the CD has a specific selection of apps (gnome, firefox, openoffice and more); there are other apps available to install via internet sources
[08:28] <lucky_strike> hi
[08:28] <[devil-boy] > it sucks
[08:28] <VooDoo> NoUSE: unless you have the DVD
[08:28] <crimsun> lon3tree: you need to ensure that the command line used in /etc/default/wpasupplicant matches the command that you type manually
[08:28] <NoUse> VooDoo right
[08:28] <TTilus> lon3tree: remove the additions you have made and try again
[08:28] <jonlleviathan> I need help with installing and working with Cedega
[08:28] <socketbind> howdy, I always get a segfault with dosemu on any machine I tried, is there any way to fix it without recompiling? :D
[08:28] <mohkohn> Hi having another go at getting my iriver t30 to work
[08:28] <Under^Uni> ok whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[08:29] <crimsun> Under^Uni: GNOME, KDE, respectively
[08:29] <VooDoo> ubuntu = gnome kubuntu = kde
[08:29] <TTilus> lon3tree: if you have deb you should really be fine from right out of the box
[08:29] <socketbind> mohkohn: did you have and MTP version of it too? :D
[08:29] <lon3tree> crimsun, have i duone something wrong?
[08:29] <mohkohn> My tale of woe can be seen at the url: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81513
[08:29] <lon3tree> i noe, TTilus
[08:29] <mohkohn> yes it is mtp
[08:29] <crimsun> lon3tree: read the last two things I typed that are addressed to you
[08:29] <lon3tree> the problem is it does work on manual
[08:29] <TTilus> lon3tree: i just thought you are whistling with some third party extensions
[08:29] <lon3tree> I am actually using my notebook now
[08:29] <lon3tree> with wpa
[08:30] <socketbind> wmohkohn: well I returned it and got a Creatiev Zen Plus
[08:30] <sweeny> no one else has any ideas for my font problem?
[08:30] <socketbind> mohkohn: but neverthless it works with ifp_gui
[08:30] <lon3tree> which is? crimsun
[08:30] <mohkohn> I should be able to convert it to ums by updateing the firmware
[08:30] <socketbind> mohkohn: did you tried that?
[08:30] <crimsun> lon3tree: if it works manually, then there are two possible problems. 1) timing, 2) different parameters
[08:30] <lucky_strike> can anybody help me - ive just tried to install ubuntu on my pc. at the step "istalling the base system" after making the partitions it said "the debootstrap programm exited with a error (return value 1)... for details - logs in taget/var/bootstrap/log, but i have winXP on this pc only so i cant read these logs...
[08:30] <lon3tree> crimsun, I am sure the para are same
[08:30] <crimsun> lon3tree: so make sure the parameters you type are precisely the same ones that are in /etc/default/wpasupplicant
[08:30] <lon3tree> but timing wise
[08:30] <VooDoo> anyone know how to get the debian menu in breezy?
[08:31] <lon3tree> wat do you mean by that?
[08:31] <mohkohn> E: Couldn't find package ifp_gui
[08:31] <socketbind> mohkohn: well I searched for an UMS firmware too, but a very knowledgeable friend told me that it's impossible
[08:31] <TTilus> lon3tree: i think the wpa command should reside in /etc/network/interfaces ...
[08:31] <kbrooks_> VooDoo: apt-get install menu
[08:31] <lon3tree> wait crimsun
[08:31] <socketbind> mohkohn: with older models you were able to flash it but in the case of Txx series it doesn't works
[08:31] <VooDoo> ok cheers
[08:31] <HappyFool> lucky_strike: you can try reading the files in the linux partition from windows using explore2fs
[08:31] <lon3tree> the para that you mention in the /default/wpasupplicant
[08:31] <HappyFool> lucky_strike: just google for it; shouldn't be hard to find
[08:31] <socketbind> mohkohn: and afaik there are no alternative firmwares for it
[08:31] <lucky_strike> HappyFool, thank you
[08:31] <erUSUL> lucky_strike: you have to change to another console, pressing Crtl. + Alt. + F2, and read the file there
[08:32] <lon3tree> are you referring to the option part?
[08:32] <crimsun> lon3tree: yes
[08:32] <socketbind> mohkohn: I hope however someone produces a working UMS firmware for T30
[08:32] <lucky_strike> dont anyone know/guess what the problem is?..
[08:32] <mohkohn> Me too
[08:32] <stefo> hi
[08:32] <stefo> kaksi
[08:32] <stefo> ot kadesi we
[08:32] <mohkohn> I will have to use windoze :(
[08:32] <socketbind> works under linux too
[08:32] <socketbind> :)
[08:32] <lon3tree> ok crimsun, so do you mean that the para in default must be the same para i did in manual method?
[08:33] <crimsun> lon3tree: yes
[08:33] <socketbind> mohkohn: did you tried ifp_gui?
[08:33] <mohkohn> ifp ls
[08:33] <mohkohn> iRiver iFP device not found.
[08:33] <mohkohn> Note: Please check USB connection.
[08:33] <socketbind> try ifp_gui
[08:33] <socketbind> it worked for me
[08:33] <mohkohn> I have the command line version
[08:33] <socketbind> well it created for me a device node under /dev
[08:33] <mohkohn> Where did you get it. apt-cache search doesn't show
[08:33] <socketbind> and I could use it for whatever I want
[08:34] <chris_> when i do an iwlist wlan0 scan, i get this error: Warning: Driver for device wlan0 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension,
[08:34] <mohkohn> socketbind, are you using breezy?
[08:34] <chris_> but has been compiled with version 17, therefore some driver features
[08:34] <chris_> may not be available...
[08:34] <socketbind> mohkohn: I compiled it from source
[08:34] <lon3tree> crimsun, so if my manual method is sudo wpa_supplicant -B -i ath0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w -d , do i type the same as in the default/wpasupplicant?
[08:34] <mohkohn> ok
[08:34] <chris_> any suggestions?
[08:34] <socketbind> but it worked
[08:34] <mohkohn> I'll give it a go
[08:34] <socketbind> good luck ;) it worked for me
[08:34] <crimsun> lon3tree: then your options are "-B -i ath0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w"
[08:34] <socketbind> though I returned it because I didn't liked it :(
[08:34] <nosilver4u> i've got a dlink dwl-650 pcmcia wlan card, where should i start on getting that to work?
[08:34] <socketbind> I've got now a creative zen plus
[08:34] <crimsun> lon3tree: you don't need the "-d" for debugging
[08:34] <socketbind> works fine as an UMS device
[08:35] <lon3tree> ok crimsun, let me show you wat is my para in my default/wpasupplicant
[08:35] <CarlFK> how do I change the hostname?  guessign I need to just edit /etc/hostname, or is there a "right way" ?
[08:36] <lon3tree> crimsun: OPTIONS="-i ath0 -D madwifi -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf"
[08:36] <chris_> Warning: Driver for device wlan0 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension, but has been compiled with version 17, therefore some driver features may not be available...    <-- any suggestions?
[08:36] <crimsun> lon3tree: you're missing "-B -w"
[08:37] <aeon17x> chris_: did you miss any features?
[08:37] <chris_> yea, it wont connect!
[08:37] <chris_> aeon17x,
[08:37] <chris_> aeon17x, however it does see it in the scan
[08:38] <lucky_strike> ok will try to reach the logs
[08:38] <aeon17x> chris_: I haven't had much experience with wireless LAN, sorry.
[08:38] <crimsun> chii: what are you trying to do?
[08:38] <crimsun> chii: sorry
[08:38] <crimsun> chris_: what are you trying to do?
[08:38] <chris_> connect to my wifi
[08:38] <socketbind> mohkohn: did you managed to make it work?
[08:38] <chris_> er i keep forgetting
[08:38] <chris_> crimsun, to connect to my wifi
[08:39] <glick> excuse me how can i get java sdk and netbeans for ubuntu?
[08:39] <mohkohn> socketbind, I have untarred it. But I can't cd into it
[08:39] <crimsun> chris_: what encryption does your AP use?
[08:39] <chris_> crimsun, it sees the router fine, ecept for quality is 0/100, and it refuses to connect
[08:39] <chris_> crimsun, WEP
[08:39] <cafrex> hi, new ubuntu guy needs help installing enlightement?!?!
[08:39] <socketbind> mohkohn: how does it come you can't cd into it? :D
[08:39] <crimsun> chris_: how did you specify the key?
[08:40] <crimsun> chris_: i.e., hex or ascii?
[08:40] <chris_> crimsun, hex, 26 character
[08:40] <coz> Hello all is there a source on the net with a list of most common, and uncommon terminal comands?
[08:40] <glick> ?
[08:40] <mohkohn> What does it mean when the file is green in the shell?
[08:40] <crimsun> chris_: did you specify it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:40] <glick> is there a java sdk and netbeans package for ubuntu?
[08:40] <socketbind> well afaik it has +x flag
[08:40] <socketbind> glick: j2sdk1.4
[08:41] <chris_> crimsun, didnt know i had to, one sec i try that
[08:41] <glick> socketbind, does that come with netbeans?
[08:41] <HappyFool> mohkohn: means the file is marked as executable
[08:41] <socketbind> glick: afaik not
[08:41] <socketbind> glick: it's just the core JDK
[08:41] <cafrex> sbdy knows where can I find a complete enlightment package for ubuntu breezy?
[08:41] <socketbind> glick: there is a standalone version of netbeans afaik, you should grab that
[08:41] <mohkohn> So it should be ./ifp_gui
[08:41] <mohkohn>  ?
[08:42] <crimsun> cafrex: which version?
[08:42] <cafrex> E17 for example
[08:42] <socketbind> mohkohn: do you have all the required qt lib headers and such? did the compile went ok?
[08:42] <socketbind> and yes, it should be ifp_gui
[08:42] <cafrex> crimsum: the same english or spanish one
[08:42] <mohkohn> error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:43] <mohkohn> Apparently not!
[08:43] <chris_> crimsun, is it possible for me to PM you whats in my /etc/network/interfaces for wlan0 ? it doesnt appear right
[08:43] <mohkohn> Build essential?
[08:43] <socketbind> you need the multithreaded libs of qt
[08:43] <aeon17x> !tell mohkohn about buildessential
[08:43] <jas_> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to unpack .rar files or rather how to do it.
[08:43] <socketbind> there is a gnome version of ifpgui but it uses ifp commandline client
[08:43] <aeon17x> jas_: install the rar package from the repos.
[08:43] <Amaranth> !info unrar-nonfree
[08:43] <mohkohn> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:43] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[08:43] <crimsun> chris_: I only need to know if you have the "wireless key foo" directive under your wireless stanza in /etc/network/interface
[08:44] <crimsun> /etc/network/interfaces, rather
[08:44] <jas_> aeon17x: From the repos?
[08:44] <thirso> snd-seq-oss and snd-pcm-oss are not loading autimatically, i gotta modprobe them everytime, how do i make it auto?
[08:44] <socketbind> mohkohn: i can hardly remember it, but the gnome version did not work
[08:44] <socketbind> mohkohn: gnome version uses the commandline client, the qt one uses libifp
[08:44] <smgil> hi, nybody knows a program to download a real media video to my computer ?
[08:45] <crimsun> thirso: snd-pcm-oss should be
[08:45] <chris_> crimsun, wait, i see what seems wrong, the key was blank from a test i did with encryption off on the laptop and router, i'll readd it, but the "auto wlan0" appears to be kind of far down from the rest (lots of space)
[08:45] <cafrex> crimsun: I've tried to download an enlightenment from nooms.de or sth like that but id dead
[08:45] <aeon17x> !tell jas_ about repositories
[08:45] <socketbind> mohkohn: well you need to grab the QT multithreaded libs
[08:45] <thirso> crimsun. nope
[08:45] <thirso> th@ubuntu:~$ lsmod | grep oss
[08:45] <thirso> th@ubuntu:~$
[08:45] <jas_> aeon17x: Thanks
[08:46] <crimsun> thirso: cat /proc/asound/modules
[08:46] <socketbind> mohkohn: you should try libqt3-mt
[08:46] <thirso> crimsun. 0 snd_cmipci
[08:46] <thirso> thats all
[08:46] <socketbind> mohkohn: i'll try to compile for myself too
[08:46] <joh> Hi, I'm testing a custom xkb configuration, but when activating it (in gnome), I get an error dialog saying an error occured when activating the XKB configuration. It doesn't say anything about *why* it failed. So my question is: is there any command-line tool for activating xkb configurations which will produce a more helpfull error message?
[08:46] <crimsun> thirso: did you install your own ALSA files?
[08:47] <mohkohn> socketbind, that was my next question! :)
[08:47] <kundabuffer> Ciao
[08:48] <socketbind> mohkohn: it seems to me that the developers included a statically linked binary package for ifp_gui too
[08:49] <mohkohn> Its compiled ok. getting the not connected message
[08:50] <socketbind> when you run it from the console, do you get a message that it created a device node?
[08:50] <Ropechoborra> Ubuntu has what in windows is Scan Disk ?
[08:50] <erUSUL> Ropechoborra: fsck
[08:50] <Ropechoborra> and to run it just tipe that?
[08:50] <socketbind> Kaloz: szia kaloz :D
[08:50] <Ropechoborra> fsck ?
[08:50] <mohkohn> Not Connected- Try unplugging....
[08:50] <mohkohn> doing that
[08:50] <chris_> crimsun, it now has a wireless-key <hexhere> line under wlan0 , then some blank lines, then auto wlan0 , blank line, then auto eth0
[08:50] <johnsie2> what is a good program to provide pop3 email accounts to people? has to have smtp and pop3
[08:51] <Alex> johnsie2: You need an MTA and then something to provide pop3 ontop - I use postfix and dovecot
[08:51] <erUSUL> Ropechoborra: you better do it from the live cd (if you plan to run it in /) as the fs must to be umounted
[08:52] <crimsun> chris_: that's fine. sudo ifdown --force wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan0
[08:52] <pippin> hmm,. gnome-panel dies with: gnome-panel: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgnome-menu.so.2: undefined symbol:  FAMNoExists    after hoary->breezy
[08:52] <johnsie2> an mta does what?
[08:53] <Ropechoborra> erUSUL ok.. and it works for the floppy too ?
[08:53] <Alex> johnsie2: delivers and recieves email
[08:53] <johnsie2> ok
[08:53] <socketbind> mohkohn: afaik I had a device node called /dev/ifp when I ran the program for the first time
[08:53] <socketbind> mohkohn: i'm a little confused now
[08:53] <mohkohn> You have the t30
[08:53] <socketbind> I returned it but I got it working
[08:53] <erUSUL> Ropechoborra: it should read documentation. man fsck
[08:53] <aeon17x> I must say, gdesklets is sooo slow.
[08:54] <mohkohn> info: ignoring device with UMS firmware.
[08:54] <mohkohn> ifp Device NOT found
[08:54] <socketbind> well maybe it's an UMS version after all
[08:55] <socketbind> if it displays that message
[08:55] <crimsun> pippin: is the dist-upgrade complete/
[08:55] <Xitium> I can get my wifi working when I turn off wep on the AP but if I turn on wep I can't seem to connect to it any ideas?
[08:55] <mohkohn> How did it work with Windoze media player then?
[08:55] <ams_> does anyone know where I can get a H264 codec?
[08:55] <crimsun> ams_: one's included with vlc if you use i386 or ppc
[08:55] <crimsun> ams_: (but not amd64)
[08:55] <pippin> crimsun: everything seems to indicate that
[08:55] <mohkohn> maybe is should try to mount it
[08:55] <ams_> i tried vlc, doesnt seem to work
[08:55] <crimsun> pippin: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[08:56] <ams_> just plays sound
[08:56] <socketbind> mohkohn: well it should mount it automatically
[08:56] <crimsun> ams_: are you on amd64?
[08:56] <davidmlz> how can I donwload a complete enlightment version for ubuntu breezy??
[08:56] <ams_> no
[08:56] <ams_> amd 32
[08:56] <Chris_Tucker> crimsun, never worked
[08:56] <crimsun> ams_: what type of media file/
[08:56] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: ?
[08:56] <mohkohn> Thats true
[08:56] <Chris_Tucker> i was chris_ just a sec ago crimsun
[08:57] <pippin> crimsun: only change from apt is that aptitude also pulled in new versions of OOo
[08:57] <thirso> crimsun. no i didnt install my own alsa files
[08:57] <ams_> .mkv video file, with H264 and AAC
[08:57] <ams_> sound works fine
[08:57] <HappyFool> davidmlz: try 'apt-cache search enlightenment' or use synaptic's search feature
[08:57] <crimsun> ams_: vlc is compiled without matroska support in Breezy
[08:57] <socketbind> mohkohn: have you tried it under windoze?
[08:58] <ams_> crap, how can I get it to have it crimsun?
[08:58] <crimsun> ams_: recompile vlc
[08:58] <Xitium> I can get my wifi working when I turn off wep on the AP but if I turn on wep I can't seem to connect to it any ideas?
[08:58] <mohkohn> Yes. Works in windoze
[08:58] <ams_> haha, linux newbie
[08:58] <socketbind> mohkohn: and WMP immediately pops up?
[08:58] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: dmesg output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:58] <Amaranth> ams_: ...
[08:58] <Ropechoborra> Why the root shouldnt login in the visual mode?
[08:58] <ams_> i wouldnt know where to start, is there anyway I can download it already compiled?
[08:58] <Ropechoborra> *log in
[08:58] <socketbind> mohkohn: well it's funny that it says that you have an UMS version
[08:59] <ompaul> !tell Ropechoborra about root
[08:59] <damien_> salut
[08:59] <mino> i have a little problem
[08:59] <ompaul> Ropechoborra, why should root ever log in  - see the message from ubotu
[08:59] <damien_> ya des francais ?
[08:59] <Ropechoborra> thnkx
[08:59] <davidmlz> HppyFool: It doesn't find anything
[08:59] <ompaul> !fr
[08:59] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:59] <mohkohn> Well it tells me I have connected something. What do you want to do with this file
[08:59] <aeon17x> !keyboard
[08:59] <damien_> oui
[08:59] <ubotu> aeon17x: Are you on ritalin?
[08:59] <ams_> yes amaranth?
[08:59] <crimsun> thirso: echo "snd-pcm-oss" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules && echo "snd-seq-oss" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[08:59] <Ropechoborra> !tell ropechoborra about root
[08:59] <Ropechoborra> xD
[08:59] <HappyFool> !fr
[08:59] <mohkohn> then I pick media player
[08:59] <damien_> ya de fr ?
[08:59] <Amaranth> ams_: Calling people newbies isn't nice.
[08:59] <Ropechoborra> I`ve closed the window
[08:59] <aeon17x> I hate you, ubotu.
[08:59] <ompaul> !tell Ropechoborra about message the bot
[08:59] <ams_> amaranth, I am the newbie
[09:00] <damien_> lol
[09:00] <ompaul> !tell Ropechoborra about message
[09:00] <ompaul> !tell Ropechoborra about msg
[09:00] <aeon17x> !shortcuts
[09:00] <ubotu> aeon17x: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:00] <Amaranth> ams_: Oh, well it isn't nice to self-deprecate.
[09:00] <mino> the tool bar where its the buttons of the minimized windows, it disapear
[09:00] <ompaul> Ropechoborra, as you can tell thats a lot of noise in the channel :-)
[09:00] <socketbind> mohkohn: well maybe you have tough luck and newer firmware revisions don't work with it
[09:00] <Ropechoborra> ompaul i`ve discovered that already
[09:00] <Ropechoborra> :)
[09:00] <Amaranth> I think that's the word.
[09:00] <socketbind> mohkohn: geez why did they made the european version MTP?
[09:00] <mino> can somebody tell me how get it again?
[09:00] <ompaul> Amaranth, that is the word
[09:00] <aeon17x> How do I figure out what key on the keyboard does the Keyboard Shortcuts map to?
[09:00] <Xitium> I can get my wifi working when I turn off wep on the AP but if I turn on wep I can't seem to connect to it any ideas??
[09:01] <ams_> amaranth, its the truth though, I have no clue how to compile anything let alone a video player
[09:01] <ompaul> mino, move mouse to edge of window top or bottom to change right click etc
[09:01] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: tell me the url when you've done it
[09:01] <socketbind> mohkohn: creative loves to license windoze technology but they made all their players as an UMS device
[09:01] <pippin> crimsun: any other idea what might have gone awry?
[09:01] <mino> its not down of the other bar...
[09:02] <crimsun> pippin: is this from a fresh boot?
[09:02] <mohkohn> How can i tell what the device number is ie: sda1
[09:02] <mohkohn> ?
[09:02] <Chris_Tucker> crimsun, good timeing, just finished, got a lot of unkown key pressed there, then the wifi appears to be trying to use ipv6!, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3694
[09:02] <mohkohn> Bus 001 Device 009: ID 4102:1119 iRiver, Ltd.
[09:02] <mohkohn> Its frustrating. Can see it taunting me!!!
[09:03] <poosnarky> hey all, I can't play m4a's in rhythmbox, what lib do i need to install to play the,?
[09:03] <davidmlz> I can't find any enlightment package for installing
[09:03] <MouseJstr> What is the command to let me choose a "profile" of pre-configured packages before running select?
[09:03] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: does the AP ever see the request?
[09:04] <pippin> crimsun: yep,. (the preexisting gnome session of course worked after the upgrade),. initially I tried just removing all the .g* dirs thinking it might be a config file issue that made gnome-panel respawn,. but after starting gnome-session from a "failsafe" x session,. I saw what it said when it dies
[09:04] <HappyFool> !tell davidmlz about repos
[09:04] <Chris_Tucker> crimsun, good question, wonder why i havent bothered checking
[09:04] <HappyFool> davidmlz: setup your repositories
[09:04] <jonlleviathan> I need help with installing WoW on Cedega .... i get an error message in termimal
[09:04] <socketbind> mohkohn: well I was suprised too when I noticed it doesn't work as an UMS device
[09:04] <davidmlz> any idea for a server list?
[09:05] <poosnarky> jonlleviathan: Wow on cedega has been broken since the most recent patch
[09:05] <socketbind> mohkohn: then I returned it because nobody told me that it's an MTP device
[09:05] <jonlleviathan> oh....
[09:05] <dducko> it was in the link you were given davidmlz
[09:05] <jonlleviathan> but i cant even install the game ?
[09:05] <dducko> !tell davidmlz about repos
[09:05] <poosnarky> jonlleviathan: the initial install should work if you have the absolute newest cedega
[09:05] <poosnarky> !tell poosnarky about repos
[09:05] <jonlleviathan> yeah i know that but i dont know why it wont :P
[09:06] <poosnarky> do you have the newest version?
[09:06] <jonlleviathan> ~$ Missing symbol {Error%dOpening%s}! (SymbolTable::UnmappedSymbolSubstitution)
[09:06] <jonlleviathan> Missing symbol {ContactTechSupport}! (SymbolTable::UnmappedSymbolSubstitution)
[09:06] <jonlleviathan> ya
[09:06] <poosnarky> hmmm, best to ask in #cedega for that
[09:06] <jonlleviathan> The wow installer opens then i click install.... and it freezes at soundmpci
[09:07] <HappyFool> hrm. my connection speed to the ubuntu archive has been steadily dropping in speed. *annoyance*
[09:07] <Xitium> I can get my wifi working when I turn off wep on the AP but if I turn on wep I can't seem to connect to it any ideas?
[09:07] <MouseJstr> ok, let me ask the question another way.. what is the gnome meta package to install that gets everything else?
[09:07] <poosnarky> jonlleviathan: also note than cedega, and even wine in general is sketchy in ubuntu
[09:07] <Chris_Tucker> crimsun, nope, AP never sees a request
[09:08] <jonlleviathan> well that sucks.... i just wnana be able to play games what do you suggesdt ?
[09:08] <HappyFool> MouseJstr: ubuntu-desktop ?
[09:08] <poosnarky> jonlleviathan: uhhh :-( windows is really the only way to run WoW stabally
[09:08] <poosnarky> jonlleviathan: no one wants to use windows, i know
[09:09] <psusi> do what I did... quit playing wow... you'll have a lot more time for more productive things ;)
[09:09] <jonlleviathan> lol that is a heartbreaker
[09:09] <socketbind> poosnarky: i dualboot windoze for games, it is a necessary evil
[09:09] <poosnarky> socketbind: yep, me too, i only use doze for games
[09:09] <Ropechoborra> I`ve installed hoary twice... The first time It request me to create a user and a password but the second one not... (but yes the root one) now i cant use the new user i`ve created with the sudo command. And if I tipe sudo adduser <user> admin it says that the group doesnt exist... :(
[09:09] <jonlleviathan> doze
[09:09] <jonlleviathan> ?>
[09:09] <poosnarky> doze == windows
[09:10] <jonlleviathan> what fualbooting ?
[09:10] <jonlleviathan> dualbooting ?
[09:10] <Chris_Tucker> crimsun, ?
[09:10] <poosnarky> yeah i dualboot
[09:10] <jonlleviathan> a linux and windows on 1 system
[09:10] <socketbind> well it's an extremely lite version
[09:10] <poosnarky> yes, its quite easy to do with ubuntu
[09:10] <socketbind> has no MSN, IE or WMP
[09:10] <psusi> I kept windows around just in case... but have not booted into it in weeks
[09:10] <mohkohn> I am going to look at it in windoze
[09:10] <socketbind> all the evil stuff is ripped away
[09:10] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: I'm at work, give me a few minutes
[09:10] <Chris_Tucker> ok crimsun
[09:10] <socketbind> winxp castrated edition :D
[09:11] <poosnarky> anyone know what the m4a/mp4 playing library/package is?
[09:11] <jonlleviathan> I cant get my win xp installed... anyone know where i can get a new freeware one ?
[09:11] <poosnarky> hehehe windows isnt freeware
[09:11] <Ropechoborra> lol
[09:11] <Xitium> that was a funny joke
[09:11] <jonlleviathan> yeah i know that
[09:11] <ompaul> poosnarky, and that is good enough a reason not to use it
[09:11] <jonlleviathan> i meant a free copy ?
[09:11] <jonlleviathan> pirated version ...
[09:12] <ompaul> this is not a channel to discuss that
[09:12] <psusi> we don't support breaking the law around here
[09:12] <Ropechoborra> Ohh isnt it ??? f*ck ! i`ve been useing it with out bill`s permission ! :S
[09:12] <poosnarky> ompaul: well, i can see charging for it, i'd rather it be opensource and pay for it than closed and free
[09:12] <jonlleviathan> im sure theres gotta be some where to do that
[09:12] <poosnarky> ompaul: but its both evils, and i only use it to game, but games like doom3 with a linux client are nice
[09:12] <stock> is there an equivalent of /etc/rc.local or /etc/conf.d/local.start in ubuntu?
[09:12] <socketbind> q4 too poosnarky :)
[09:13] <poosnarky> and ut2k4
[09:13] <iceman> how do you install KDE-LOOK.ORG colors and themes ... in kubuntu
[09:13] <bozel> i wanted to program with qwt, but he says:  cannot find -lqwt
[09:13] <poosnarky> and 2k6 whenever that comes out (soon hopefully)
[09:13] <bozel> where should the qwt-lib be?
[09:13] <Ropechoborra> jonlleviathan obviusly you can have a illegal copy of windows... Its plenty of them... But thats against the law so... sorry =/
[09:13] <jonlleviathan> well where can i get one psst psst lol
[09:14] <socketbind> bozel: libqwt-dev?
[09:14] <titanium> i need to set up 'sendmail' so php4 can send emails on my ubuntu system. could anyone tell me where i can find help with this? the man page doesn't really explain what config file to edit.
[09:14] <ompaul> jonlleviathan, please stop that
[09:14] <jonlleviathan> i just need to know how to play games with ubuntu thats all... dont worry
[09:14] <bozel> ???
[09:14] <KinkoBlast> jonlleviathan: ubuntulinux.com
[09:14] <bozel> what is libqwt-dev?
[09:14] <socketbind> bozel: well you need the .la files to link to it
[09:14] <socketbind> bozel: a package :D
[09:14] <KinkoBlast> ... or was it ubuntu-linux.org?
[09:14] <bozel> no
[09:14] <socketbind> ubuntulinux.com
[09:15] <poosnarky> last chance, anyone know what libs/packages would allow me to play mp4's or m4a's
[09:15] <bozel> i have only the source
[09:15] <poosnarky> its also ubuntu.com
[09:15] <Ropechoborra> I`ve installed hoary twice... The first time It request me to create a user and a password but the second one not... (but yes the root one) now i cant use the new user i`ve created with the sudo command. And if I tipe sudo adduser <user> admin it says that the group doesnt exist... :(
[09:15] <ompaul> !tell poosnarky about restricted
[09:15] <crimsun> poosnarky: gstreamer0.8-faad
[09:15] <poosnarky> they have a ton of web addies now
[09:15] <bozel> and compiled it with qmake && make
[09:15] <poosnarky> crimsun: thanks
[09:16] <poosnarky> crimsun: which repo has those?
[09:16] <KinkoBlast> Does anyone know where you can get the UT(99) linux thing? I have the win install disk for the data, just need the engine...
[09:16] <Chris_Tucker> crimsun, i have to go,phone call (yea, dialup, been complaining at the isp for better) i'll come back later
[09:16] <socketbind> KinkoBlast: look at liflg.org
[09:16] <bringert> when I try to unmount my 4G iPod, connected with firewire, the machine locks up quite nicely every time. I've got Breezy om amd64 with the 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 kernel. any clues?
[09:17] <crimsun> !info gstreamer0.8-faad
[09:17] <bringert> nothing in the logs after the mounting, since it locks up :-)
[09:17] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-faad: (AAC decoding plugin for GStreamer), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 92 kB
[09:17] <crimsun> poosnarky: see above
[09:17] <socketbind> KinkoBlast: http://liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=51
[09:17] <socketbind> the '99 version was the GOTY edition isn't it?
[09:17] <Xitium> I can get my wifi working when I turn off wep on the AP but if I turn on wep I can't seem to connect to it any ideas?
[09:18] <KinkoBlast> socketbind: GOTY was 99 with some other stuff included.
[09:18] <reon> Automatix question: Why does it not work properly ? Not all apps are installed and some report problems during installation ?
[09:18] <iceman> How the hell do you install the color styles from kde-look ..
[09:18] <socketbind> KinkoBlast: well the above installer should work for you
[09:18] <adriyel__> Baldev, hi bub.
[09:18] <KinkoBlast> socketbind: Thanks! Now if only Valve would support linux as a client....
[09:19] <socketbind> KinkoBlast: if only :D but they doesn't even plan it afaik :(
[09:19] <adriyel__> KinkoBlast, I have steam running on Linux, just not native. Valve has no intentions of ever supporting Linux, they rely too heavily on a Microsoft-centric environment. DirectX Api's, ATI, e.t.c.
[09:19] <socketbind> KinkoBlast: and source engine is mainly about d3d so there will be no native client
[09:19] <war-totem> anyone ever have their bottom panel bar disappear and become unuseable?
[09:20] <adriyel__> socketbind, exactly.
[09:20] <socketbind> and that's a sad thing :/
[09:20] <socketbind> well it runs under cedega acceptable
[09:20] <adriyel__> socketbind, who cares? I've got quake4 installed on this beast
[09:20] <adriyel__> socketbind, yeah, CS:S runs just fine
[09:20] <socketbind> :)
[09:20] <tristanmike> war-totem, right click and select "new panel" ?
[09:20] <jonlleviathan> psssst psst who can help me with dual booting pssst psst
[09:20] <KinkoBlast> aocketbind:Nope, they don't plan it... I WOULD use wine, but HL slows down on win98, so in wine would probably be unbearable.
[09:20] <adriyel__> KinkoBlast, it runs fine dude.
[09:21] <adriyel__> KinkoBlast, just use cedega
 modemconfig
[09:21] <war-totem> tristanmike: i dont want to make a new panel, i want my panel back without having to log out
 Are you smoking crack?
[09:21] <Ropechoborra> xDDDDDDDDDDD
[09:21] <socketbind> well hl runs fine on cedega for me
[09:21] <jonlleviathan> crak ?
[09:21] <Ropechoborra> hahahaha
[09:21] <adriyel__> socketbind, I've no complaints about it. its slower than windows native, sure. but who needs anti-aliasing when you're a CAL player?
[09:21] <tristanmike> war-totem, what did you do? hide the panel? or did it just dissapear?
[09:21] <Ropechoborra> That bot is my new idol
[09:21] <KinkoBlast> adriyel: On YOUR system. I'm on a Pentium II 293 mhz or something in that area....
[09:21] <war-totem> tristanmike: i heard a beep then it dissappeared
[09:22] <war-totem> tristanmike: my recycle bin is still there
[09:22] <Benjamin_L> is tehre a way to change epiphany mouse gestures button ?
[09:22] <adriyel__> hmm, I just cleaned up init.d in breezy. that was NOWHERE near as bad Fedora
[09:22] <adriyel__> hooray to faster boot times
[09:22] <tristanmike> war-totem, did you see if it's just gone transparent?
[09:22] <poimen> -> /etc/rc.d/rc.local << here this does not exist were is a equivalent to that here?
[09:22] <socketbind> well I would  love to try q4 too maybe I can lay my hands on it somewhere near us
[09:22] <stock> speaking of init.d, is there an equivalent of /etc/rc.local or /etc/conf.d/local.start in ubuntu?
[09:22] <stock> lol, poimen
[09:22] <socketbind> when it'll be available in europe?
[09:22] <sbalneav> jonlleviathan: What's your problem with dual boot?
[09:22] <stock> i'm wondering the same thing
[09:22] <Ropechoborra> Does anybody knows how to configure my Pc Chips P4 Onboard modem ???
[09:22] <adriyel__> socketbind, ignore the reviews. its a great game, I'd give it a solid 9/10
[09:23] <socketbind> can't wait to try it :)
[09:23] <socketbind> I loved Q2
[09:23] <war-totem> tristanmike: none of my open windows are showing now and neither is the workspace switcher
[09:23] <Benjamin_L> is there a way to change epiphany mouse gestures button from middle to right for example ??
[09:23] <tristanmike> war-totem, just the recycle bin? that's weird
[09:23] <adriyel__> socketbind, I don't know if you'd notice the difference or not, but having the polygon hit system in Q4 instead of hitboxes is a joy
[09:23] <poimen> stock lol same question  lo
[09:23] <war-totem> tristanmike: its been happening a lot lately
[09:23] <stock> it seems that this sshould be a quick question to answer
[09:23] <adriyel__> socketbind, its like my favorite feature of the Doom3 engine, bar none
[09:24] <tristanmike> war-totem, breezy?
[09:24] <KinkoBlast> adriyel_: And if i remember single player doesn't work under any of the windows layers. And as I can't use steam (below specs) I'd have a big chunk of wasted hard drive space.
[09:24] <sbalneav> jonlleviathan: What's your problem with dual boot?
[09:24] <stock> surely someone knows how to start programs on boot?
[09:24] <poimen> stock : but it seems no onw kwons
[09:24] <socketbind> adriyel_: doom3 engine uses hitboxes by default?
[09:24] <Ropechoborra> Does anybody knows how to configure my Pc Chips P4 Onboard modem ???
[09:24] <war-totem> stock: edit your sessions
[09:24] <stock> war-totem, i'm not sure i follow
[09:24] <war-totem> go to start up and add whatever you want
[09:24] <socketbind> adriyel_: all raven games tend to have polygon based hit detection
[09:24] <stock> my 'sessions'?
[09:24] <adriyel__> socketbind, wrong. it doesn't use them. Carmack implemented a per polygon hit system, not hitboxes. you shoot it, you hit it. none of this lagbox nonsense like HL2
[09:24] <socketbind> adriyel_: and because of that all raven games rock :D
[09:24] <war-totem> stock: systems/preferences/sessions
[09:24] <tristanmike> stock, system--prefs--sessions?
[09:25] <adriyel__> socketbind, I was rather pleased with Jedi Academy, played that like a whore
[09:25] <stock> this is going to sound bad, but how do i find that?
[09:25] <socketbind> adriyel_: me too :D
[09:25] <socketbind> adriyel_: I loved it played it thousands of times
[09:25] <adriyel__> socketbind, <--- dual sabers for life!
[09:25] <socketbind> adriyel_: it's a little short :(
[09:25] <tristanmike> stock, it's on the top panel by default
[09:25] <sbalneav> jonlleviathan: Third and last time: What's your problem with dual boot?
[09:25] <stock> er, this box is headless
[09:25] <stock> i want to start stuff on boot
[09:25] <stock> not with x
[09:25] <socketbind> adriyel_: haha I always got dual sabers :D
[09:25] <socketbind> adriyel_: dual sabers r00lz j0 :D
[09:26] <war-totem> stock: no clue
[09:26] <Myrtti> erm
[09:26] <adriyel__> socketbind, darn skippy!
[09:26] <stock> ah, thanks for the help
[09:26] <stock> i'll keep looking
[09:26] <tristanmike> stock, me either, but then again, I'm a fool :P
[09:26] <adriyel__> Jedi Academy was a breeze to get running under Cedega :)
[09:26] <socketbind> well it's a darn good game
[09:26] <titanium> i need to set up 'sendmail' so php4 can send emails on my ubuntu system. could anyone tell me where i can find help with this? the man page doesn't really explain what config file to edit.
[09:26] <socketbind> i dunno why is it so short
[09:26] <adriyel__> I'm surprised they didn't release a Linux client, there were whole clans focused around playing it on Linux
[09:26] <adriyel__> socketbind, yeah, its too short, but the multiplayer duel mode made up for that
[09:27] <KinkoBlast> using System; class thinger { public static void Main { Console.WriteLine("I like C#")}}
[09:27] <socketbind> we played a bunch of duels in the summer on landuro'05 :D
[09:27] <socketbind> C# is rotoscope of satan :D
[09:27] <adriyel__> socketbind, LOL
[09:27] <poimen> stock were out of luck with that I have been looking for a good time now
[09:28] <socketbind> but well it's far better than java
[09:28] <rep2> where can i get libexif-dev (>= 0.6.9-6) for ubuntu amd64 hoary?
[09:28] <KinkoBlast> adriyel_: MS probably forbade it in the contract for the X Box Dev kit or something
[09:28] <socketbind> tough I develop in java
[09:28] <socketbind> +h
[09:28] <poimen> and I just want to load hdparm dma for my cd-roms in boot :(
[09:28] <adriyel__> KinkoBlast, Jedi Academy came out for PC first, based upon a game engine that HAD been ported to Linux, in an OpenGL based game
[09:28] <socketbind> poimen: /etc/default/hdparm?
[09:29] <socketbind> poimen: you can nicely set it there
[09:29] <adriyel__> brb
[09:29] <phiqtion> nalioth: are you busy?
[09:29] <socketbind> anyone remembers Heavy Metal f.a.k.k.2? :D
[09:30] <rep2> where can i get libexif-dev (>= 0.6.9-6) for ubuntu amd64 hoary? the only package available is 0.6.9-4
[09:30] <socketbind> it had a buggy linux clilent but I loved it
[09:30] <KinkoBlast> ariyel__: But they were probably working on the XBox version simultaniously, and something like that WOULD be the sort of trick MS would pull. They had Bungie REMOVE stuff from Halo for Mac, remember.
[09:30] <stock> i want to run some stuff for iptabels--is there an /etc/defaults/hdparm equivalent for that?
[09:30] <tristanmike> socketbind, I have that game
[09:30] <socketbind> tristanmike: the Loki version?
[09:30] <tristanmike> socketbind, no :(
[09:30] <socketbind> well the linux version is buggy :D
[09:30] <socketbind> but you can fix it easily
[09:31] <poimen> socketbind : I just add whta -d1 -c1 -k1 /dev/hdb or I have to put hdparm -k1 -d1 -c1 /dev/hdparm???
[09:31] <nalioth> phiqtion: nope
[09:31] <VooDoo> LO!
[09:31] <poimen> l /deb/hdb imean
[09:31] <KinkoBlast> I wish I cold get gtk# working on mac os X.
[09:31] <socketbind> harddisks="/dev/hdb"  <- hd's separated by spaces
[09:31] <socketbind> hdparm_opts="" <- the options you want
[09:31] <socketbind> hdparm="-d1 -c1 -k1"
[09:31] <stock> is there something like that for iptables?
[09:31] <socketbind> ahemm hdparm_opts
[09:31] <poimen> ok thankx a lot :))
[09:31] <KinkoBlast> Then I wouldn't have to write all my guis twice. Once in gtk# and once in cocoa#
[09:32] <phiqtion> nalioth: you might remember me from last time. you helped me set up some new repositories. do you still have that link?
[09:32] <socketbind> poimen: hope it helps ;)
[09:32] <pippin> crimsun: <sigh> I guess a reinstall might be my best bet to make this machine working again,.. although I don't think I've done any evil stuff to the hoary before trying to turn it into breezy
[09:32] <nalioth> stock: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[09:32] <KinkoBlast> Not that I use GUIs very often, it's usualy too much work :-P
[09:32] <nalioth> phiqtion: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[09:32] <dducko> !tell phiqtion about repos
[09:32] <Pr0meteux> hi
[09:32] <Pr0meteux> please
[09:32] <poimen> arddisks="/dev/hda /dev/hdb"
[09:32] <poimen> hdparm_opts="-c1 -d1 -k1"
[09:33] <TTilus> stock: if you want to run something on every network interface startup/shutdown put them in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:33] <poimen> like that??
[09:33] <Pr0meteux> what is the default root password on ubuntu install ?
[09:33] <stock> iptables is all configured, though
[09:33] <socketbind> poimen: yep :D
[09:33] <dducko> there isnt one Pr0meteux
[09:33] <stock> up /path/to/iptablescript?
[09:33] <dducko> !tell Pr0meteux about root
[09:33] <socketbind> poimen: I have all my harddisks in udma6 and 32bit transfer mode by default
[09:33] <nalioth> Pr0meteux: yours
[09:33] <rexykik> could someone point me toward the wiki article for LTSP under edubuntu?
[09:34] <Pr0meteux> nagual, what i have to put when it prompt me a password ?
[09:34] <Yellindamic> Can anyone help with getting my display to show when coming out of Suspend to Memory? I've scoured the forums and tried many things with no luck.
[09:34] <dducko> Pr0meteux, your password
[09:34] <tristanmike> Pr0meteux, the password you put in when you installed
[09:34] <bozel> i ve downloaded qwt-20050831.tar.bz2
[09:34] <bozel> how i must install it?
[09:34] <crimsun> Yellindamic: which driver?
[09:34] <socketbind> bozel: why don't you try the package?
[09:35] <bozel> which package?
[09:35] <socketbind> bozel: simply install it and you can link against qwt
[09:35] <TTilus> stock: man interfaces
[09:35] <socketbind> bozel: libqwt-dev
[09:35] <Pr0meteux> dducko, hi didnt ask me for a root password ?
[09:35] <Yellindamic> crimsun: I'm not really sure. It's on my Dell inspiron 1000 laptop.
[09:35] <Pr0meteux> only for user password
[09:35] <bozel> yes, but where can i get libqwt-dev?
[09:35] <Pr0meteux> am
[09:35] <nalioth> bozel: search in synaptic
[09:35] <tristanmike> Pr0meteux, that's the one
[09:35] <socketbind> bozel: through apt
[09:35] <dducko> rexykik, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/StepByStepLtspSetup?highlight=%28LTSP%29
[09:35] <Pr0meteux> ok is the user password
[09:35] <Pr0meteux> thans
[09:35] <crimsun> Yellindamic: have you searched the wiki?
[09:35] <tristanmike> !root
[09:35] <ubotu> from memory, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:35] <socketbind> bozel: sudo apt-get install libqwt-dev
[09:35] <bozel> does it works with QT4?
[09:36] <stock> TTilus, i think 'up /path/to/iptablesscript' in ifup worked, thanks
[09:36] <socketbind> bozel: I don't know:/
[09:36] <socketbind> bozel: I suppose it should
[09:36] <bozel> qwt 4.2.0 doesnt work with qt4
[09:36] <TTilus> stock: yes, that's exactly the ting
[09:36] <Yellindamic> crimsun: yes, I tried doing some of the things with other Dell laptops. But I didn't see anything on there for the 1000.
[09:36] <bozel> only qwt5.x
[09:36] <TTilus> stock: thing...
[09:36] <dducko> rexykik, without the hightlighting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/StepByStepLtspSetup
[09:36] <stock> that was phrased horribly, but you get what i'm trying to say
[09:37] <bozel> but how can i install qwt5.x?
[09:37] <TTilus> stock: remember to add down-entry too which reverses what you do in up-entry
[09:37] <socketbind> bozel: compile it from source
[09:37] <poimen> stock good luck , socketbind THANKX!
[09:37] <bozel> and how to link the libs?
[09:37] <socketbind> -lqwt?
[09:37] <bozel> he doesnt find -lqwt
[09:38] <bozel> yes but he doesnt find it
[09:38] <socketbind> you compiled it from source?
[09:38] <bozel> yes
[09:38] <Bonzodog_> it's pretty unique
[09:38] <socketbind> try issuing a ldconfig
[09:38] <bozel> with "qmake && make"
[09:38] <Bonzodog_> hrm..need to think of a secondary nick
[09:38] <Yellindamic> Anyone here running Ubuntu on a Dell inspiron 1000?
[09:38] <crimsun> bozel: you need ot modify the ld path
[09:38] <crimsun> +to
[09:39] <adriyel__> Yellindamic, highly unlikely, just ask your question or state your problem
[09:39] <socketbind> well by default it should install it under /usr/local/lib
[09:39] <bozel> i look
[09:39] <socketbind> and that's in ld path by default
[09:39] <socketbind> try to do an ldconfig too
[09:39] <bozel> ldconfig?
[09:39] <socketbind> sudo ldconfig
[09:39] <dougsko> Yellindamic: not on a dell, but im running breezy
[09:39] <jonlleviathan> hey guys i get this error " cannot create direct sound " when loading up a game using cedega  whats that mean ?
[09:40] <drarcheh> How do i make gpg (gnupg) setuid the proper way?
[09:40] <bozel> i ve compiled the source, and its now on the desktop
[09:40] <bozel> and now?
[09:40] <drarcheh> dpkg-reconfigure gnupg doesn't do anything
[09:40] <bozel> what shall i do?
[09:40] <drarcheh> and i did get the configure question once upon a time
[09:41] <socketbind> bozel: you want to link your application against qwt huh?
[09:41] <bozel> yes
[09:41] <jonlleviathan> do you need direct x on linux ?
[09:41] <socketbind> bozel: have you issued ldconfig before the compilation?
[09:41] <Yellindamic> When I suspend to memory, or hibernate I can't get my display to come back up. I also think my keyboard may not be working when coming out of those. Is this something that can be fixed by adding a module?
[09:41] <nalioth> jonlleviathan: direct what?
[09:41] <jonlleviathan> lol .... nvm
[09:41] <jonlleviathan> its a program to play games
[09:41] <socketbind> bozel: do a "sudo ldconfig" and then try to compile it
[09:41] <Ropechoborra> Does anybody knows how to configure my Pc Chips P4 Onboard modem ???
[09:41] <bozel> i make "ldconfig"
[09:41] <phiqtion> nalioth: i got disconnected, did you read my message?
[09:41] <bozel> ok
[09:42] <nalioth> jonlleviathan: i know what it is, we use open gl and other methods here (open source methods)
[09:42] <nalioth> phiqtion: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[09:42] <jonlleviathan> oh i see so how do i install those ?
[09:42] <jonlleviathan> Im trying to play games using cedega
[09:42] <socketbind> jonlleviathan: cedega "emulates" directx for you
[09:42] <Bonzodog_> Ropechoborra: eek....tis a true-style on board win-modem, a VERY cheapo one at that. I would get a hardware modem
[09:43] <socketbind> jonlleviathan: you don't need to install it
[09:43] <adriyel__> jonlleviathan, take it to kubuntu-offtopic, nalioth and I can help you there
[09:43] <adriyel__> socketbind, its not a bloody emulator, its an implementation
[09:43] <drarcheh> anyone on configuring gnupg setuid?
[09:43] <socketbind> adriyel__: sry adriyel, it's dynamic recompilation or what, I know it's far from emulation
[09:43] <skykhan> tkleri grelim ?
[09:44] <rexykik> what file do I need to edit to make my box get ip from dhcp rather than statically?
[09:44] <adriyel__> socketbind, no, its an implementation of Windows API's on Linux
[09:44] <targetx> rexykik, /etc/network/interface
[09:44] <adriyel__> socketbind, it is inherently inefficient, because of the nature of it. But its not an emulation or an interpreter in the truest sense
[09:45] <chris_> crimsun, still there?
[09:45] <socketbind> adriyel__: well I'm not english and I couldn't find the best word for it, sry, I know what you mean
[09:45] <Yellindamic> Can anyone direct me in regards to Modules in /etc/default/acpi-support
[09:45] <spiderworm> hey is there anyone here that has experience setting up an icecast steam with icecast and mpd on ubuntu?
[09:45] <adriyel__> socketbind, its cool, your english is fine. better than most American's (where I am) english anyways
[09:46] <socketbind> adriyel__: :) thx I hope I get it improved soon because my grammar totally sux:D
[09:46] <psusi> I'm looking for something that is like a wiki for database type information... like an easy to use web site that you can configure a simple database for tracking things on...
[09:46] <psusi> anyone know of anything like that?
[09:46] <dougsko> anyone try using bitpim?
[09:46] <adriyel__> socketbind, bah. utter crap, your grammar is fine
[09:46] <adriyel__> socketbind, you don't understand, the current state of education in the department of English in American schools really sucks right now
[09:47] <psusi> the current state of education period in America sucks right now
[09:47] <tobbel2> hi
[09:47] <targetx> hi
[09:47] <socketbind> :D
[09:47] <bozel> @socketbird: he cant find -lqwt
[09:47] <KursK> any idea why I only could have libasound.so.2 but not libasound.so?
[09:47] <Curare> hi
[09:47] <bozel> i tried first "sudo ldconfig" then "qmake && make"
[09:47] <psusi> the country is going to hell in a handbasket... if all my friends and familiy didn't live here, and I didn't like the weather, I'd move... heh...
[09:47] <socketbind> bozel: hmm well... :D
[09:48] <KursK> oops
[09:48] <bozel> ??
[09:48] <socketbind> the gnu compiler need those .a files to link against something?
[09:48] <bozel> how can i set the path to the lib?
[09:48] <freakazoid333> which country  is that?
[09:48] <jonlleviathan> Why do i get an error "CAnnot create Sound Device " when laoding games ?
[09:48] <adriyel__> psusi, there'll be an election in 2 and a half years, things will improve
[09:48] <socketbind> bozel: LD_LIBRARY_PATH i presume
[09:48] <targetx> Cause you do not have permission to access the sound devices.. perhaps ?
[09:48] <freakazoid333> nevermind
[09:48] <jonlleviathan> so how do i fix that up ?
[09:48] <crimsun> chris_: yes?
[09:48] <tobbel2> can i install ubuntu on a firewiredrive to boot my mac?
[09:49] <targetx> jonlleviathan, first, try running the game as root and see if you still get the error. If that is the case then you know for sure it's a permission problem
[09:49] <chris_> crimsun, any ideas since?
[09:49] <jonlleviathan> it is a permission problem
[09:49] <psusi> adriyel__: I don't know... look at all the damage that has been done, and the fact that there are tons of idiots who still support Bush, and all the manipulative bastards still spewing crap to convince the idiots to continue to do so
[09:49] <jonlleviathan> wine: '/home/ubuntu/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you
[09:49] <bozel> to the lib directory?
[09:49] <psusi> like Fox News
[09:49] <TTilus> tobbel2: can your mac boot anything from fw drive?
[09:49] <jonlleviathan> targetx what should i do !?
[09:50] <socketbind> bozel: well try to append to it this way: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/where/is/the/lib
[09:50] <targetx> err.. I think someone else should help you on this sorry, I have to leave right now. Good luck!
[09:50] <Ropechoborra> Where are java manuals in spanish ?
[09:50] <targetx> on google
[09:50] <Ropechoborra> targetx thankx :P
[09:50] <psusi> that reminds me... I need to go pick up Al Franken's new book
[09:50] <holycow> targetx, rofl
[09:51] <extreeeeee> hola cabrones
[09:51] <freakazoid333> yeah i saw it on amazon "After lies comes the truth"
[09:51] <tobbel2> TTilus: it can boot osx from fw drive and yellowdog linux is supposed to work also
[09:51] <romey> anybody know if there is going to be a thunderbird 1.5 rc package?
[09:51] <curso01> hola
[09:51] <pppoe_dude> any body got ideas on how to make good pasta?
[09:52] <extreeeeee> cabron de mierda
[09:52] <extreeeeee> cago en 10
[09:52] <curso01> todos los de linux estais gilipollas
[09:52] <Ekibyougami> anyone tried the new flock browser yet?
[09:52] <targetx> FWD #linux-es
[09:52] <bozel> i tried export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/home/bozel/Desktop/qwt-20050831/lib/
[09:52] <jbroome> yes
[09:52] <steve> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me get access to the ubuntu forums
[09:52] <Ropechoborra> curso01 porque decis eso?
[09:52] <bozel> he doesnt find
[09:52] <jonny_> jonny
[09:52] <jonny_> oh sorry
[09:52] <Yellindamic> steve: what do you mean get access?
[09:52] <curso01> viva windows linux es una castaa
[09:52] <extreeeeee> por q esto no hay dios que lo entienda
[09:52] <chris_> Warning: Driver for device wlan0 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension, but has been compiled with version 17, therefore some driver features may not be available...  <-- anyone know how to fix this?
[09:53] <dougsko> pppoe_dude: make yr water real salty, add a couple tbl spoons of olive oil, get it boiling, add pasta, in a bout 8-10 min (depending on what kind of pasta is is) it should be good
[09:53] <socketbind> bozel: did you issued make install?
[09:53] <jonny_> how do you get rid of kubuntu-desktop and edubuntu-desktop?
[09:53] <bozel> no
[09:53] <aeon17x> chris_: I think it's about time you post it on the forums.
[09:53] <bozel> only "make"
[09:53] <curso01> sois todos unos ubuntus
[09:53] <dougsko> pppoe_dude: kinda off topic though... :)
[09:53] <Ropechoborra> curso01 en primer lugar, nosotros no estamos en contra de nadie, solo a favor del software libre y segundo este es un canal en ingles #ubuntu-es para espaol ;)
[09:53] <chris_> aeon17x, i have alraedy done that
[09:53] <pppoe_dude> dougsko: thanks... well im hungry
[09:53] <bozel> the readme says: first "qmake" then "make"
[09:53] <aeon17x> chris_: Then wait and bump it regularly.
[09:53] <socketbind> bozel: because you can't install system wide because you lack of privileges?
[09:53] <bozel> shall i try "make install"?
[09:53] <pppoe_dude> dougsko, i might actually try that... olive oil
[09:53] <jonny_> how do you get rid of kubuntu-desktop and edubuntu-desktop?
[09:53] <extreeeeee> y como se dice chupamela en ingles
[09:54] <socketbind> bozel: well you should :DD
[09:54] <extreeeeee> que no lo se?
[09:54] <dougsko> pppoe_dude: itll keep it from sticking together
[09:54] <socketbind> bozel: sudo make install
[09:54] <Ropechoborra> extreeeeee ......................
[09:54] <pppoe_dude> nice
[09:54] <bozel> i can install system wide
[09:54] <jonny_> how do you get rid of kubuntu-desktop and edubuntu-desktop?
[09:54] <Ekibyougami> jonny_ remove them via synaptic
[09:54] <bozel> it s my own computer :)
[09:54] <chris_> aeon17x, i am "bumping" it regularly here :P some people come and go that know about these things
[09:54] <steve> well every time I try to go ther I get an operation timed out error, tried via windows with firefox and ie and through Linux again with firefox and conqueror ..same result
[09:54] <extreeeeee> que te pasa
[09:54] <adriyel__> jonny_, sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[09:54] <socketbind> bozel: well then install it:D
[09:54] <curso01> vaya mierda de chat. no se ve nada de lo que se pone
[09:54] <extreeeeee> cuentame como se chupa porfa
[09:54] <jonny_> Ekibyougami and how do you do that?
[09:54] <Yellindamic> steve: but you can go to other sites fine?
[09:54] <socketbind> bozel: that was your problem all the way I think
[09:55] <Ropechoborra> curso01 es question de seguir la conversacion
[09:55] <steve> no problem at all just the forums
[09:55] <Yellindamic> steve: your are going to ubuntuforums.org
[09:56] <Ropechoborra> Just a question... In case of non deseated users in the chat... who`s the one that take control over here?
[09:56] <rexykik> anyone know what sit0 is?
[09:56] <curso01> linux es una mierda, mi software tambien es libre, no he pagado un duro por el
[09:56] <rexykik> anyone know what sit0 is in ifconfig?
[09:56] <Ropechoborra> curso01 eso es ilegal
[09:56] <socketbind> rexykik: it's the ipv6 tunnel
[09:56] <thirso|AFK> curso01 callate puto
[09:56] <crimsun> Ropechoborra: type !ops
[09:56] <curso01> hay muchas cosas ilegales
[09:56] <[A] ndy80> where can I find OO 2.0 final version packages for Ubuntu 2.0 ?
[09:56] <curso01> y se hacen
[09:56] <steve> yes, I can even get to the non english forums unfortunately I only speak English
[09:56] <crimsun> Ropechoborra: in private
[09:56] <[A] ndy80> sorry...
[09:56] <socketbind> rexykik: don't ask me what's it I don't know :D
[09:56] <[A] ndy80> for ubuntu 5.10
[09:56] <[A] ndy80> :)
[09:56] <bozel> if i "make install" it says "no targets"
[09:56] <crimsun> [A] ndy80: none yet
[09:56] <j0sh> Where can I find the file that controls what window manager I am using?
[09:57] <[A] ndy80> crimsun: will they be released soon?
[09:57] <bozel> ?-(
[09:57] <socketbind> bozel: I'll download it and try it for myself ok? :D
[09:57] <GhostWarr1or> si no te gusta linux pos no lo suses y deja d joder/if you dont like linux just dont use it ant stop fucking
[09:57] <rexykik> t's not a real physical network adaptor so you can't use it instead of eth0. sit0 is the generic tunnel device. It's used when setting up IPv6 connections that tunnel through a normal IPv4 connection.
[09:57] <bozel> ok
[09:57] <GigaClon> j0sh, you can change window managers by loging out
[09:57] <bozel> but download qwt-20050831
[09:57] <bozel> thats the newest version
[09:57] <bozel> and it works with Qt4
[09:57] <socketbind> bozel: do I need QT4 devel for it?
[09:58] <bozel> it also works with Qt3
[09:58] <aeon17x> GhostWarr1or: watch your language.
[09:58] <socketbind> well we'll see :D
[09:58] <bozel> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13693&package_id=161312
[09:58] <GhostWarr1or> ok i'm sorry
[09:58] <Ropechoborra> * curso01 has quit IRC ("Abandonando") GhostWarr1or "pos dej de joder" XD
[09:58] <socketbind> bozel: thx bozel i'm downloading it now
[09:59] <socketbind> i dunno why sf is so slow for me
[09:59] <j0sh> GigaClon: and how do I set it to the one I want?
[09:59] <curso> ow are you
[09:59] <Ropechoborra> curso what do you want?
[09:59] <bozel> maybe try mesh solutions, works fastly
[10:00] <curso> i want speak with you
[10:00] <grogoreo> hi
[10:00] <grogoreo> does anyone here use gPHPEdit?
[10:00] <william_> GRRR I hate GoDaddy
[10:00] <Ropechoborra> You should try Ubuntu, you know... At least just as an experience
[10:00] <william_> such a crap interface
[10:00] <GhostWarr1or> como mando un privado?? /// how can i send a private message??
[10:00] <Ropechoborra> GhostWarr1or  /query USER
[10:01] <curso> i am instaling bind9
[10:01] <barongas> GhostWarr1or, /msg <name> <message>
[10:01] <curso> the bind9 is very dificult
[10:01] <socketbind> bozel: i'm downloading the QT devel packages it'll take some time
[10:01] <Ropechoborra> OK bye
[10:01] <socketbind> bozel: 39secs to be precise :D
[10:01] <bozel> ok lol
[10:02] <curso> i need a manual  the bind9
[10:02] <GigaClon> j0sh, use Session button
[10:02] <socketbind> bozel: can you give me a sample application what I can try to compile?
[10:02] <bozel> qt4?
[10:02] <bozel> or qwt?
[10:03] <GhostWarr1or> can someone tell me some apt-get repositories for ubuntu??
[10:03] <socketbind> well i have qt3 development packages
[10:03] <bozel> both have examples included
[10:03] <socketbind> the latest unstable only works for qt4?
[10:03] <Ekibyougami> !tell GhostFreeman about repos
[10:03] <curso> i need a good page that explicates the functionally of bind
[10:03] <curso> good bye
[10:03] <Ekibyougami> oops, wrong one =x
[10:03] <bozel> in $QWTDIR/examples
[10:03] <Ekibyougami> !tell GhostWarr1or about repos
[10:03] <socketbind> bozel: i'm missing one header named qpoint.h
[10:03] <Ekibyougami> there =x
[10:03] <bozel> ???
[10:04] <socketbind> bozel: the compilation of qwt fails because I have no header called qpoint.h
[10:05] <bozel> dont know
[10:05] <socketbind> i'm missing some package
[10:05] <bozel> i could compile it
[10:06] <Kromonos> how can I configure my new webcam?
[10:06] <aeon17x> So will Dapper Drake be a duck or a dragon? =/
[10:07] <steve> has anyone else had problems accessing the English Ubuntu Forums?
[10:07] <freakazoid333> not me
[10:07] <luckyaba_> anyone know why my computer would freeze when i bring up my screensaver settings.. or when the screensaver kicks on?
[10:07] <Nikopol> steve, nope
[10:08] <tom_> Hey, I'm having trouble opening Synaptic, when I run it from terminal I get:
[10:08] <tom_> (synaptic:8106): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[10:08] <tom_> (synaptic:8106): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[10:08] <tom_> Segmentation fault
[10:08] <tom_> anybody any reasons why?
[10:08] <crimsun> please flood in #flood or on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:08] <steve> does anyone have any ideas as to why that is the only site I know of that  I cant reach
[10:09] <tom_> crimsun: Sorry
[10:09] <Nikopol> steve, could be lots of things
[10:09] <socketbind> bozel: well it utterly fails for me i'm making some corrections to the makefile
[10:09] <Nikopol> steve, I had some trouble like that when I had set my router incorrectly
[10:09] <steve> what was wrong?
[10:10] <hobbz> hello
[10:10] <Nikopol> steve, can't remember exactly I think it was the MTU that was set incorrectly
[10:10] <Nikopol> steve, you changed any of you setting recently?
[10:10] <bluefrog-10> !hibernate
[10:10] <ubotu> bluefrog-10: Are you on ritalin?
[10:10] <bozel> i only need to know, where the libs are saved
[10:10] <elephanthunter> luckyaba_: Do you have 3d acceleration working?
[10:10] <bozel> and how to set the path to the lib
[10:10] <bozel> LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesnt work
[10:11] <GodKilla-> hey all
[10:11] <luckyaba_> elephanthunter: not sure.. how would i check?
[10:11] <hobbz> whatup
[10:11] <GodKilla-> ive got a problem with my ethernet cable
[10:11] <GodKilla-> wont let me go online on hd install
[10:11] <GodKilla-> currently under live cd
[10:11] <GodKilla-> i got a static ip
[10:11] <aeon17x> glxinfo | grep rendering
[10:11] <hlpimfalling> no dhcp?
[10:12] <elephanthunter> luckyaba_: glxgears
[10:12] <steve> not on the router that I know about, total newb to linux and routers I'm afraid, I have been playing around with depos and installed firestarter and Nessus recently
[10:12] <GodKilla-> hlpimfalling normalyl does work but for soem reason ti stopped after i changed cables
[10:12] <elephanthunter> luckyaba_: or what aeon17x said
[10:12] <hobbz> change cables back
[10:12] <hobbz> maybe defective cables
[10:12] <GodKilla-> hobbz not possible, because i moved the computer
[10:12] <Kromonos> Is the Logitech QuickCam Communicate STX compatible with Linux?
[10:12] <GodKilla-> but i knwo the cable does work
[10:12] <GodKilla-> tested it on this computer
[10:12] <NightLord> I've just used apt-get to install openssh, how do i start and setup the server?
[10:13] <luckyaba_> elephanthunter: says no
[10:13] <GodKilla-> just it stopped working afteri  unplugged trhe modem and replugged it etc, but its everything put in its right place
[10:13] <luckyaba_> elephanthunter: it never froze before a couple days ago though?
[10:13] <GodKilla-> afaik there are scripts out there that fix this problem
[10:13] <socketbind> bozel: I managed to compile it
[10:13] <NightLord> anyone?
[10:13] <aeon17x> luckyaba_: it means you don't have 3d acceleration
[10:13] <socketbind> bozel: now I'm trying the examples
[10:14] <soce_32> NightLord: configs are in /etc/ssh, and the daemon should start upon install and then at each boot
[10:14] <NightLord> ok
[10:14] <soce_32> NightLord: ps -ef | grep ssh to see if it's running
[10:14] <elephanthunter> luckyaba_: mhm, you might need to ask somebody more proficient about that screensaver problem
[10:14] <socketbind> bozel: did you get a bunch of warnings when you compiled it?
[10:14] <GodKilla-> so, is there anybody that could help me
[10:14] <luckyaba_> aeon17x: it worked a couple days ago though?
[10:14] <soce_32> NightLord: if not sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[10:14] <aeon17x> luckyaba_: what do you mean it worked a couple of days ago?
[10:14] <bozel> yes
[10:15] <bozel> some
[10:15] <NightLord> failed :|
[10:15] <elephanthunter> luckyaba_: His screensaver freezes
[10:15] <elephanthunter> dur
[10:15] <luckyaba_> aeon17x: well i would leave my computer and the screensaver would just go
[10:15] <hobbz> GodKilla - sorry at wor and just reading..so I cant help right now
[10:15] <NightLord> does that mean its already started?
[10:15] <elephanthunter> aeon17x: His screensaver freezes
[10:15] <GodKilla-> np thanks anyway :/
[10:15] <lachoss> hi
[10:15] <soce_32> NightLord: ps -ef | grep sshd will tell you if it is running
[10:15] <GodKilla-> 'lo
[10:15] <socketbind> bozel: well compiling the examples just seem fine bozel
[10:15] <NightLord> it said something, which i cannot dechipher
[10:16] <luckyaba_> aeon17x: is it possivle that the 3d rendering just got disabled?
[10:16] <NightLord> bruce    28929 28891  0 20:12 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager
[10:16] <NightLord> root     29793     1  0 21:00 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[10:16] <NightLord> bruce    30153 29373  3 21:14 pts/0    00:00:00 grep ssh
[10:16] <bozel> you compiled it?
[10:16] <bluefrog-10> am stuck at reboot at swsusp partition wrong signature. same in recovery mode. am i on to reinstall an image?
[10:16] <tristanmike> NightLord, no pasting in here please :)
[10:16] <socketbind> cd examples && qmake && make
[10:16] <aeon17x> luckyaba_: if it was, it should've said 'disabled', not no.
[10:16] <kingright> do i have to format CD-Rs befor using them in linux? (cuz it keeps telling me no blank disk in the CD Drive)
[10:16] <socketbind> bozel: however the LD lib path needs to be corrected
[10:16] <soce_32> NightLord: don't flood here, but the line with /usr/sbin/ssh means it's running
[10:16] <lachoss> i got a little problem with gnome.. sometimes it won't start. when i enter username &password it just shows the brown background and there it stays. if i restart it usually works. any ideas on how to solve this ? i'm running breezy. thanks!
[10:16] <luckyaba_> aeon17x: i have 2 nvidia 6600 gt's?
[10:16] <bozel> how did you set it?
[10:16] <NightLord> ok, good
[10:16] <NightLord> and sorry
[10:17] <socketbind> bozel: works perfect
[10:17] <aeon17x> luckyaba_: did you get the drivers for them?
[10:17] <luckyaba_> aeon17x: yeah
[10:17] <bozel> how did you set the libpath?
[10:17] <hlpimfalling> um anyone have any idea about the Intel-HDA audio, when I disable it the computer will start up, when not it wont,  Iam using breezy and I already viewed the wiki and did what it said....
[10:17] <socketbind> bozel: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/home/socketbind/qwt-version/lib
[10:17] <socketbind> bozel: i did this
[10:17] <NightLord> so basically its running and someone just has to connect now
[10:17] <luckyaba_> aeon17x: i get the nvidia screen before the splash screen
[10:17] <socketbind> but you can just put the contents of the lib subdir into /usr/local/lib
[10:17] <kingright> do i have to format CD-Rs befor using them in linux? (cuz it keeps telling me no blank disk in the CD Drive)
[10:18] <bozel> my LD_LIBRARY_PATH is empty
[10:18] <bozel> is this normal?
[10:18] <luckyaba_> aeon17x: maybe this would help... when i bring up the preferences for the screensaver it freezes as well?
[10:18] <aeon17x> luckyaba_: ...did you enable the drivers for them?
[10:19] <hlpimfalling> pleae help
[10:19] <hlpimfalling> please
[10:19] <socketbind> bozel: now that's what I call serious stuff :D bunch of diagrams
[10:19] <bluefrog-10> am stuck at reboot at swsusp partition wrong signature. same in recovery mode. am i on to reinstall an image?
[10:19] <flogiston> win32codecs
[10:19] <luckyaba_> aeon17x: enabke it?.. how would you do that?
[10:19] <soce_32> NightLord: yes, you can test it out by doing ssh yourmachinename
[10:19] <socketbind> bozel: it's normal
[10:19] <hlpimfalling> um anyone have any idea about the Intel-HDA audio, when I disable it the computer will start up, when not it wont,  Iam using breezy and I already viewed the wiki and did what it said....
[10:19] <luckyaba_> aeon17x: enable
[10:20] <kingright> do i have to format CD-Rs befor using them in linux? (cuz it keeps telling me no blank disk in the CD Drive)
 ardiem@ubuntu:~$ sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx
 Password:
 FATAL: Module fglrx not found.
[10:20] <bozel> now its working :)
[10:20] <hlpimfalling> you dont have it installe.d...
[10:20] <ArdieM> i think i broke my sys a bit. could some help me to repsir it? i ant to get my graphic card work
[10:20] <dougsko> anyone esle find that video4linux freezes the crap out yr box, so you have to hard boot?
[10:20] <aeon17x> luckyaba_: assuming you use nvidia-glx ---> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:20] <socketbind> bozel: i'm glad you managed to get it work
[10:20] <bozel> i copied all libqwt.so* into the "/usr/lib" path
[10:21] <bozel> thank you very much
[10:21] <dougsko> ive tried different drivers, but v4l seems the be the right one, it recognizes my webcam, but when i try and use it, it freezes
[10:21] <socketbind> bozel: have fun with it :)
[10:21] <ArdieM> im getting crazy... plz.
[10:21] <bozel> :)
[10:21] <steve> is there somewher other than the forums for a newb to get help
[10:21] <hlpimfalling> I guess no one knows....
[10:21] <hlpimfalling> um anyone have any idea about the Intel-HDA audio, when I disable it the computer will start up, when not it wont,  Iam using breezy and I already viewed the wiki and did what it said....
[10:22] <ompaul> steve here
[10:23] <steve> anywhere else?
[10:23] <ompaul> steve, which forums were you in?
[10:23] <hlpimfalling> ubuntuforums.org?
[10:23] <rexykik> can anyone lead me to a good guide for ltsp on edubuntu? the stepbystep guide is really aweful.
[10:23] <nalioth> kingright: something doesnt sound right, with your cd-r issue
[10:23] <luckyaba_> aeon17x: doesn't modprobe enable the driver?
[10:23] <hlpimfalling> darn it
[10:23] <steve> well thats the problem I cant access the English forums
[10:23] <hobbz> gcc version of hoary?? anyone know so I can install it and use make.  I know there is a command for it.
[10:23] <hlpimfalling> this is the only thing that doesnt work with my desktop
[10:24] <hlpimfalling> stupid intel chipset
[10:24] <hobbz> that will tell me what it is
[10:24] <hlpimfalling> I dont have money for another sound card..
[10:24] <hlpimfalling> oi
[10:24] <ompaul> steve they are mirrored by a mailing list
[10:24] <kingright> well i put in a blank CD-R and it tell me i have no CD in and that is in all programs
[10:24] <nalioth> hobbz: i dont understand your last statement
[10:24] <zkl-laptop> hobbz, install build-essential
[10:24] <ompaul> steve,  http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[10:24] <hobbz> Thank you zkl
[10:24] <steve> I'm sorry no idea what that means
[10:24] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, have u tried mine or is it what u call step by step?
[10:25] <kingright> cuz im trying to burn 5.10 to cd to upgrade
[10:25] <ompaul> steve, that is a url go to it with your web browser
[10:25] <KinkoBlast> Has anyone gotten Unreal Tournament working?
[10:25] <KinkoBlast> Whenever i launch it. it crashes.
[10:25] <bozel> bye
[10:25] <GhostWarr1or> yes
[10:25] <GhostWarr1or> y have ut2004
[10:25] <hlpimfalling> anyone have any idea about the Intel-HDA audio, when I disable it the computer will start up, when not it wont,  Iam using breezy and I already viewed the wiki and did what it said....
[10:26] <KinkoBlast> GhostWarrior: No, not ut2004. Unreal Tournament. The origional.
[10:26] <kingright> cuz i need to update to breezy
[10:26] <steve> sorry I have to look at keys to type and missed url
[10:26] <ompaul> hlpimfalling, wait about 15/20 mins let the audience change a bit and those who are busy might be back
[10:26] <hlpimfalling> scroll up...
[10:26] <hlpimfalling> ok thanks
[10:26] <kingright> and i cat get SPM to do it for me
[10:27] <ompaul> steve,  http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users  << -- use a mouse on this
[10:27] <GhostWarr1or> ok, sorry
[10:27] <aeon17x> luckyaba_: modprobe?
[10:27] <steve> Thanks Ompaul
[10:27] <KinkoBlast> is there a way to make it so i don't have to type ./ every time i want to launch a program in the local directory?
[10:28] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, have u tried my ltsp setup, if this one is awful tell me where u have pb, i have reibstalled one and it's working
[10:28] <luckyaba_> aeon17x: after the driver is installed i "modprobe nvidia" that enables the driver right?
[10:28] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, you don't want that it is a documented security risk
[10:28] <hlpimfalling> what programs are you trying to run KinkoBlast?
[10:28] <GhostWarr1or> has anyone quake3 working??? in does not work on mi ubuntu 5.10
[10:29] <Bonzodog_> GhostWarr1or: you do have the original game disk don't you?
[10:29] <Bonzodog_> the windows CD?
[10:29] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, in the home directory create a "bin" directory add that to your path
[10:29] <KinkoBlast> ompaul: Being able to type mario instead of ./mario (for a dumb script me and a friend wrote) is a security risk?
[10:29] <GhostWarr1or> i dont know... inst a cd that install it on linux
[10:30] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, not mario but ls if someone put ls in your path
[10:30] <GhostWarr1or> i cant remember where i found it
[10:30] <Bonzodog_> for the Quake 3 thing to work you need the windows game
[10:30] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, in your home directory
[10:30] <Bonzodog_> for the Quake 3 data
[10:30] <KinkoBlast> ompaul: ...
[10:30] <KinkoBlast> ompaul: And what are the chances of that happening?
[10:30] <GhostWarr1or> no
[10:30] <NightLord> can someone tell me the lines i need to add to sources.list to add the official debian repositories
[10:30] <Bonzodog_> you have to copy the data files off the game disk into your linux insta;;
[10:30] <GhostWarr1or> ins installs ok
[10:30] <Bonzodog_> *install
[10:30] <GhostWarr1or> the problem is when runing
[10:30] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, how many people sit beside your machine?
[10:31] <kingright> can some one help me with upgrading to 5.10 from 5.04 with the SPM cuz i just dont get it
[10:31] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, how many programs do you download and run?
[10:31] <rexykik> bluefrog-10, i'm going through and hitting problems because it is ubuntu and it is assumed that I know some of the things they are saying, and because they exit out of a program (ltspadmin) and then in the next step they are still in it...and I find it confusing. I'm trying to set up for edubuntu.
[10:31] <ompaul> that you don't check
[10:31] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, u there?
[10:31] <rexykik> yea
[10:31] <tom_> Hey, I'm having trouble running Synaptic, when I run it it flashes on and then off, the terminal shows me this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3700
[10:31] <KinkoBlast> ompaul: Let's see... I use my computer, I use it, and occasiably I use it.
[10:31] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, move to a channel and tell me which
[10:32] <KinkoBlast> ompaul: And as for security: Oh no! They might be able to steal my Nethack bones file!
[10:32] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, move it to your /usr/local/bin directory
[10:32] <rexykik> i'll be in allnitecafe
[10:32] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, no they might be able to use your box as a platform for attacks elsewhere
[10:32] <KinkoBlast> ompaul:Yeh, like I care.
[10:32] <socketbind> http://www.flickr.com/photos/canderson/27661669/in/set-625857/
[10:33] <socketbind> squirells squirells squirells
[10:33] <socketbind> :D
[10:33] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, well the people who would be attacked by your machine might care enough to cause you problems no net access - law suits etc
[10:33] <kingright> can some one help me with upgrading to 5.10 from 5.04 with the SPM cuz i just dont get it
[10:34] <Lievens> breezy rocks!
[10:34] <KinkoBlast> ompaul: And anyway, I CAN'T MOVE THE EXECUTABLE FILE OR IT WON'T BE ABLE TO FND THE DATA FILES IT NEEDS!
[10:34] <Lievens> just finfished installing breezy sweet
[10:34] <Lievens> t
[10:35] <steve> Is there a gnu/linux version of CRTL-ALT-DEL?
[10:35] <KinkoBlast> ps and kill?
[10:36] <steve> ps & kill?
[10:36] <steve> ??
[10:36] <socketbind> haha
[10:37] <socketbind> gnome system guard or what? :D
[10:37] <kingright> can some one help me with upgrading to 5.10 from 5.04 with the SPM cuz i just dont get it
[10:37] <socketbind> there was something like that
[10:37] <chris_> does anyone know where to get the ndiswrapper 1.1 source?
[10:38] <Lord_Athur> hi
[10:38] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, #ubuntu-offtopic please and I will talk you though a script that will launch that file but I will not help you make that directory part of your path
[10:38] <heyodee> if i need to install aplications that is not included in the Ubuntu default package list where do i loooook?
[10:38] <aeon17x> luckyaba_: no, it just installs it.
[10:38] <KinkoBlast> charles@CharlesUbuntu:/mnt/storage/charles/ut$ ./ut
[10:38] <KinkoBlast> Signal: SIGIOT [iot trap] 
[10:38] <KinkoBlast> Aborting.
[10:38] <KinkoBlast> What does that meen?
[10:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell heyodee about sources
[10:40] <nalioth> heyodee: ubotu has sent you some info to read on where and how to get access to over 16000 programs
[10:40] <luckyaba_> aeon17x: ok... well it has the nvidia screen before the splash screen and my xorg is set to use nvidia?
[10:40] <otroean> Hi I'm thinking about buying a sata controller for my ubuntu machine. What kind do you recommend?
[10:41] <tobbel2> nalioth, i'd like to have that info too
[10:41] <colm> devs/testers/everyone involved...   quite simply thanks :-)  linux that works
[10:41] <luckyaba_> aeon17x: ok... how would i enable it then.. nvidia-glx-... didn't work
[10:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tobbel2 about yourself
[10:42] <socketbind> bye
[10:42] <mojo> HELP HELP I have changed my screen resolution in GNOME and somehow "accepted" it when it does not display on my video card.  Now even Gnome-Failsafe logs in to a blank screen because of the resolution setting.  Other user logins work, though.  Just not mine.  Anyone know where that setting is saved?????  THANKS@!!!
[10:42] <aeon17x> !tell luckaba_ about nvidia
[10:42] <KinkoBlast> Has anyone here gotten Unreal Tournament (NOT 2003 or 2004!) to work on ubuntu? I used the loki installer but the program crashes every time!
[10:42] <tobbel2> thanks :)
[10:42] <hlpimfalling> I cant get my resolution to set the way I want it
[10:42] <hlpimfalling> using the utility in system
[10:43] <hlpimfalling> > preferences
[10:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hlpimfalling about fixres
[10:43] <nalioth> mojo: you have a console, right?
[10:43] <tarvid> how do i make the default shell for new users /bin/false
[10:44] <mojo> yeah, console works.  gdm login on other login accounts work too, so I am sure it is a setting in the home dir somewhere
[10:44] <hlpimfalling> I have the resolution I want in the xorg.conf... it just wont work in system > preferences
[10:44] <kingright> can some one help me with upgrading to 5.10 from 5.04 with the SPM cuz i just dont get it
[10:44] <nolan_> hi
[10:44] <hlpimfalling> change res
[10:44] <nolan_> can someone help me install from a tarball?
[10:44] <nalioth> nolan_: what program are you wanting?
[10:44] <mojo> i looked at xorg.conf but believe it is only to give the list of options.  it is not where the user selected resolution is.
[10:44] <nalioth> hlpimfalling: read what ubotu sent you please
[10:44] <nolan_> nalioth: i got the gdiplus tarball
[10:44] <KinkoBlast> nolan_:Extract it, run "make". In general, anyway (you need build-essential)
[10:44] <nolan_> im new to linux
[10:45] <nalioth> mojo: in your console, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and fix your self
[10:45] <hlpimfalling> I tried...
[10:45] <nalioth> nolan_: is it available in the ubuntu repos?
[10:45] <spiderworm> hey is there anyone here that has experience setting up an icecast steam with icecast and mpd on ubuntu?
[10:45] <hlpimfalling> Still wont work..
[10:45] <hlpimfalling> hr
[10:45] <hlpimfalling> m
[10:45] <hlpimfalling> I will try again though
[10:45] <hlpimfalling> thanks
[10:45] <hlpimfalling> k
[10:45] <nalioth> hlpimfalling: read what i just told mojo
[10:45] <nolan_> i dont know, i downloaded it when i was using windows
[10:45] <bogado> Any one here can help me with a not-so-simple X keyboard configuration?
[10:46] <hlpimfalling> I have to go.  Thanks guys I will talk to you later
[10:46] <hlpimfalling> by
[10:46] <bogado> I have a external keyboard in my laptop that has a different model then the laptop one
[10:46] <mojo> nalioth: um, xserver with gdm login works FINE for other user logins.  How will dpkg-reconfigure help with the preferences for a particular user?  Other than maybe to remove the offending resolution from the list, which I suppose I can try just by editing xorg.conf in /etc/X11/... :(
[10:46] <thouters> should't installing dvd+rw-tools result in a dvdrecord binary? if not how do I write isos to dvds?
[10:47] <El_Che> thouters: try k3b
[10:47] <Vivaldi> hello
[10:47] <luckyaba_> aeon17x: ok... now i was able to disable the screensaver?.. it would freeze the computer when i tried before and i didn't change anything?
[10:47] <nalioth> mojo: if you configure the xserver to only have ONE resolution, nobody will ever have any more rez problems (due to no weird choices)
[10:47] <Vivaldi> what do i need to do to install a working java subsystem?
[10:47] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, sigiot - signal input output trap - its a throwback to bsd the original fault name came from the PDP/11 and it should now be SIGABRT  however what causes it - it seems that there are two main culprits Gnome and hardware that is all I know about it - but then again your not in #ubuntu-offtopic getting your other issues sorted
[10:47] <nalioth> thouters: dvdrecord is not a F/OSS program
[10:48] <thouters> nalioth: which backend does k3b use then, or is it also impossible to write dvds with ubuntu
[10:48] <thouters> (vanilla ubuntu that is, without all the goodies)
[10:48] <ompaul> nalioth, I believe that schilling if thats his name is only going to support it on Open Solaris now - we are freeeeeeee
[10:48] <OneSeventeen> When I plug a USB drive into my laptop, I want it to execute a shell script, I've been told udev could help, but I can't figure out how to use it.  (I've read the man page)
[10:49] <KinkoBlast> ompaul: I figured out a way to do it myself... just wrote a quick and dirty script that runs the program and used sudo mv to copy it to /usr/bin
[10:49] <nalioth> thouters: cdrecord is what k3b uses, and i burn dvds fine
[10:49] <ompaul> thouters, growfs
[10:49] <mips> Hi,
[10:49] <nalioth> ompaul: that will be great!
[10:49] <joachim_> is there a problem with hotplug in AMD64 Breezy? My new AMD64 does not mount my digital camera, and that used to work on i386
[10:49] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, the correct place is actually in /usr/local/bin/
[10:49] <mips> I cannot seem to install Automatix on a fresh breezy install, any ideas ?
[10:49] <thouters> oh, I was under the asumption that cdrecord couldn't do dvds..
[10:50] <nalioth> djnolan: why are you messenging me?
[10:50] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, just in case your interested, that is the standard for non base programs
[10:50] <aeon17x> mips: wait for version 3 of it, it should be out by next week.
[10:50] <KinkoBlast> ompaul: Whatever, it works.
[10:50] <e-sin> hehe that made my heart jump a little
[10:50] <e-sin> my nick used to be j0sh^
[10:51] <j0sh> haha sorry
[10:51] <japega> Hi!
[10:51] <japega> Help here!
[10:51] <j0sh> hey guys, can anyone tell me how to change the default window manager from gnome to something else
[10:51] <ompaul> !tell japega about ask
[10:51] <joachim_> even dmesg or lspci does not show any USB mass storage device when I plug in my camera
[10:51] <j0sh> I want to use enlightenment and I have it install I just don't know how to start it instead of gnome
[10:52] <mips> aeon17x, I would like a productive/working system by Friday. Other people dont seem to have hassles ?
[10:52] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, :-)
[10:52] <japega> I have install Ubuntu on my laptop, but it says that i'm using my batery and the lap is pulg in
[10:53] <KinkoBlast> ompaul:Is it posable to ad, say, ~/CSharp to my path? I use that directory for programs I'm working on, so it would be nice to not have to type ./ for those.
[10:54] <aeon17x> mips: Just follow the Starter Guide in the help files. It'll take you a wee bit longer though.
[10:54] <Madeye> Hi, I'm trying to get Verdana.ttf font accessible in Java applications, any idea?
[10:54] <leitao> please, i made i dist-upgrade to breezy, and its kernel doesnt support sata driver. How can i solve this issue?
[10:54] <daaku> j0sh: depending on how you start X, you want to modify .xsession or .xinitrc
[10:54] <leitao> any kernel patch?
[10:54] <pippin> crimsun: slap me over the forehead with a 4x4,. I had some conflicting libraries in /usr/local/lib/
[10:54] <OneSeventeen> how do I search a folder for all files containing a certain word via the command line?
[10:54] <b|d-vorador> hi i need help trying to burn a .bin/.cue file (image).  I installed gnomebaker fine but when I try to burn the disc it errors out saying that the disc isn't large enough when it is.  Can someone give me any help to remedy this?
[10:54] <daaku> OneSeventeen: grep
[10:54] <KinkoBlast> Has anyone here gotten Unreal Tournament (NOT 2003 or 2004!) to work on ubuntu? I used the loki installer but the program crashes every time!
[10:54] <djnolan> nalioth: how do i use the ./configure command, i get bash ./configure not found error
[10:55] <e-sin> what's that paste site for long urls and configs, etc?
[10:55] <OneSeventeen> cool, thanks daaku
[10:55] <djnolan> i mean, no file
[10:55] <GodKilla-> reboot, bb
[10:55] <e-sin> ah sorry
[10:55] <mips> aeon17x: hehe I know what you mean by a 'wee bit longer', trying to avoid that...
[10:55] <e-sin> nm
[10:55] <japega> Nobody wants to help me?
[10:55] <Lord_Athur> from kubuntu I connot install edubuntu-desktop, what should I do?
[10:55] <bipolar> Has anyone ever run into this in the XOrg log file?
[10:55] <bipolar> (WW) Ignoring request to load module GLcore
[10:55] <djnolan> can somebody help me configure, build and install a source tarball?
[10:56] <j0sh> daaku: I didn't have a .xinitrc file in my home dir so I made one
[10:56] <bipolar> I've got the nvidia drivers installed, I get X but with lousy framerates.
[10:56] <nalioth> j0sh: join #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll help you find your enlightenment
[10:56] <mojo> nalioth: I tried it, but it seems to remember the old resolution setting anyway.  so i stopped gdm again and put the xorg.conf back how it was.  Of course, i should edit out the offending resolution.  But one way or the other it still seems to remember the previous user setting.  I tried renaming the .metacity direcotry but that didn't help.. guess i need to 'speriment.  i am like 99% sure it's something saved in the home dir
[10:56] <nalioth> ANTDx1: that is not polite at all, please dont do it again
[10:56] <daaku> j0sh: if you use an .xinitrc, you'll wanna use 'startx' to start X
[10:56] <ANTDx1> sorry...
[10:56] <nalioth> mojo: it's not your metacity
[10:56] <nalioth> djnolan: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[10:56] <targetx> nalioth, why is that not polite
[10:57] <KinkoBlast> Lord_Athur: Don't. All the stuff in edubuntu is available on it's own. You may want to install ubuntu_desktop, as that is the GNOME package
[10:57] <antix> I can't find any php5-mcrypt package? can somebody help me?
[10:57] <mojo> nalioth: yeah.. that didn't help either... ;D
[10:57] <b|d-vorador> hi i need help trying to burn a .bin/.cue file (image).  I installed gnomebaker fine but when I try to burn the disc it errors out saying that the disc isn't large enough when it is.  Can someone give me any help to remedy this?
[10:57] <nalioth> targetx: getting versions of the whole channel (esp a channel as large as this) has in the past been prelude to an attack of some kind
[10:58] <daaku> antix: 'apt-cache search mcrypt' maybe?
[10:58] <mojo> how is every one doing?
[10:58] <ompaul> KinkoBlast, sorry it took me a moment to find what you were looking for - you need to edit the file .bash_profile at the end you will see how
[10:58] <b|d-vorador> is there a better package out there to burn images
[10:58] <mojo> this is a mojo friend also typeing
[10:59] <ANTDx1> I can assure you i don't know how to attack anything, nor would I want to
[10:59] <antix> daaku, there is only a php4-mcrypt. but for sarge there is a php5-mcrypt... how can I find out the package manager of php4-mcrypt and ask him/her?
[10:59] <nalioth> b|d-vorador: k3b
[11:00] <daaku> antix: packages.ubuntu.com maybe?
[11:00] <mojo> damn ya'll all speakingt Greek to me
[11:00] <nalioth> ANTDx1: i was just answering his question, with why it isnt polite
[11:00] <rexykik> or are you speaking geek to you?
[11:00] <ANTDx1> Alright
[11:00] <rexykik> are we*
[11:00] <ANTDx1> well I won't do it again, so eh
[11:00] <nalioth> ANTDx1: there are ops here who'd remove you if they were here for that, tho ( a word to the wise)
[11:00] <daaku> b|d-vorador: if you're not afraid of using the command line you could try cdrdao, iirc it supports bin/cue
[11:00] <mojo> mojo kown alot more about this stuff then i do
[11:01] <ANT|away> for getting the version of everyone?
[11:01] <nalioth> ANT|away: yessir
[11:01] <mojo> oh by the way i'm his friend
[11:01] <ompaul> ANT|away, the away gets people kicked
[11:01] <b|d-vorador> gnomebaker is supposed to support bin/cue yet it doesnt work
[11:01] <b|d-vorador> kinda lame
[11:01] <ANT|away> hmm
[11:02] <ompaul> change bacl
[11:02] <mojo> his trying to fix this guy comp.
[11:02] <ompaul> :)
[11:02] <b|d-vorador> and isnt k3b a KDE app or i can install it even though im running ubuntu/gnome?
[11:02] <mojo> and i think he just got it
[11:02] <ANTDx1> any other rules I should know about?
[11:02] <KinkoBlast> KDE apps work just fine under gnome
[11:03] <ompaul> ANTDx1, read the coc stuff other than that  enjoy - ohh and No Pasting --- that one is how fast can you be kicked out
[11:03] <ANTDx1> alright thanks.
[11:03] <joachim_> something definitely seems wrong wih hotplug on (my) AMD64 - anyone else encountered that?
[11:03] <targetx> nalioth, Oh I didn't know he CTCP Versioned the whole channel
[11:03] <mojo> oh by the way my name is jeremy
[11:03] <aeon17x> b|d-vorador: it depends on the kdelibs though, so you have to install some KDE components.
[11:03] <ompaul> ANTDx1, 99.9998% is it friendly :)
[11:03] <targetx> nalioth, I agree CTCP VERSIONing a whole channel is not nice :)
[11:04] <mojo> why is it called Gnome
[11:04] <targetx> why NOT ? :)
[11:04] <mojo> lol
[11:04] <ompaul> targetx, getting 615 replys might teach the ctcping person a thing or two
[11:04] <b|d-vorador> aeon17x:  installing kde components wont have any negative effect on my ubuntu/gnome install will it?
[11:04] <djnolan> someone please help with using the ./configure command
[11:04] <targetx> mojo, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Agnome&btnG=Google+zoeken&meta=
[11:04] <KinkoBlast> mojo: Because the gnu project calls everything gn-something.
[11:04] <daaku> b|d-vorador: cdrdao write --device x,x,x --driver generic-mmc --speed x name_of.cue
[11:04] <meuserj|work> GNOME = GNU Network Object Modeling Environment
[11:05] <meuserj|work> (I think)
[11:05] <daaku> to find the device number: cdrecord --scanbus
[11:05] <mojo> remide me of metal gear solid
[11:05] <targetx> Maybe this is a tip for everyone: use the define:<any word here> tag on google to get nice definitions from WIKI's
[11:05] <KinkoBlast> And I thought it was sad when i memorized google's ip.
[11:05] <mojo> thank you meuserj
[11:05] <aeon17x> b|d-vorador: not much, you do get some extra entries on your Applications menu though.
[11:05] <meuserj|work> it might be GTK Network Object Modeling Environment
[11:05] <targetx> KinkoBlast, I just filled it in on google.com, didn't wrote that from scratch lol :D
[11:05] <nalioth> mojo: visit http://www.gnome.org
[11:06] <antix> daaku, thanks I found the package but not the maintainer so far...
[11:06] <KinkoBlast> Hen
[11:06] <mojo> this is not mojo this is his friend
[11:06] <KinkoBlast> Off topic, but has anyone gotten GTK# working with mono on OS X?
[11:06] <mojo> hey i am back... sorry my friend was going keyboard happy with the chat...
[11:06] <targetx> =D
[11:07] <targetx> never leave your pc unlocked..
[11:07] <mojo> I found several config files under ~/.gconf and found one that had the resolution set in it... but editing it didn't seem to help either.
[11:07] <nalioth> silvermaster: please dont msg me
[11:07] <nalioth> silvermaster: you may join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[11:08] <daaku> antix: there's a dsc link on the package page
[11:08] <KinkoBlast> (J/K!)
[11:08] <daaku> antix: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/php4-mcrypt/php4-mcrypt_4.3.10-1ubuntu1.dsc
[11:09] <ventz> hey everyone
[11:09] <ventz> can someone tell me what the user/pass are on the live cd. I logged out and would like to know how to log-back in without rebooting
[11:09] <JaZyLNX> okay guys i need to run a fsck because my / isn'tloading. i can boot from the install cd but it's a 4.10 what command can i use for a fsck
[11:09] <JaZyLNX> ?
[11:09] <KinkoBlast> ventz: Um... guest/guest?
[11:10] <ventz> nope, does'nt work
[11:10] <ventz> tried root/root and demo/demo
[11:10] <ventz> tried ubuntu/breezy
[11:10] <ventz> no luck
[11:10] <_jason> ubuntu/ubuntu ?
[11:10] <ventz> yep, tried that too
[11:10] <KinkoBlast> breezy/breezy?
[11:10] <daaku> ventz: tried a blank password?
[11:10] <KinkoBlast> um, linux/linux?
[11:11] <ventz> tried breezy breezy
[11:11] <RezDawg> Can someone help me with my USB thumb drive, it says its a read-only drive and wont let me delete from it
[11:11] <thouters> RezDawg: ntfs?
[11:11] <ventz> tried blank pass. Tried linux/linux. Nothing
[11:11] <nosilver4u> i have a dlink wireless card with the realtek chipset, how can i get that working?
[11:11] <ventz> can't seem to find documentation on the site either
[11:11] <RezDawg> thouters, FAT
[11:11] <Pistahh> RezDawg: some USB thumb drives have a physical switch on them for write protection
[11:11] <silvermaster> alright i have a question, i'm trying to get my modem to connect to the net.. i did pppconfig and set it up, (my modem wasn't automatically detected, but i know its COM3 (dos) which is ttys2, yet when i type pon, nothing happens
[11:12] <RezDawg> Pistahh, i just bought it so i dont know
[11:12] <_jason> ventz:  my only guess would be to try to put some caps so Linux/Linux etc. but idk
[11:12] <antix> daaku, thanks a lot!
[11:12] <Pistahh> RezDawg: so check it. :)
[11:12] <KinkoBlast> um, is it  ""/""?
[11:12] <RezDawg> Pistahh, i dont see any switch
[11:12] <daaku> RezDawg: do you have write access as root? if yes, you need to change the way its mounted to be able to write as a user
[11:12] <mojo> nalioth: I tried editing ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/screen/default/0/%gconf.xml to change the resolution entered there, but it didn't work either.  Am I barking up the right tree there?
[11:13] <mojo> nalioth: It *did* have the offending resolution entered there
[11:13] <nalioth> mojo: using "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:13] <RezDawg> daaku, i put data on it but now it wont let me delete it
[11:13] <mojo> nalioth: already tried that to no avail. :(
[11:13] <nalioth> mojo: you can select the one rez that the machine is optimal at, and deselect the rest
[11:13] <mojo> nalioth: that's what i was doing while my friend was typing here for a minute
[11:13] <daaku> RezDawg: so you can modify a file/create a file but not delete it?
[11:13] <KinkoBlast> why does unreal tournamwnt crash with SIGIOT whenever I start it?
[11:14] <ventz> no luck
[11:14] <nalioth> mojo: you deselected all but one rez in the dpkg wizard?
[11:14] <ventz> i can't believe this isn't the first thing on the live cd page
[11:14] <mojo> nalioth: Okay, I can try that again. But I did make sure that the offending res was not listed in there.  I didn't deslect them ALL but ONE, but I *did* remove the offending resolution.
[11:14] <RezDawg> daaku: i just got the thumb drive yesterday, i put some songs on it and now i want to delete those and put some different one on
[11:14] <KinkoBlast> well, if you figure it out, tell us so we can slap it on the wiki somewhere
[11:15] <nalioth> mojo: only have the optimal rez in it
[11:15] <mojo> nalioth: k will do...
[11:15] <spektr> Hi, I try to run the quake2 extension packs on ubuntu hoary (from the q4 special edition). I tried the quake2 package from multiverse - the game works, but the extension packs are simply not recognized. Then I tried the binaries from idsoftware, using this doc: http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Quake-HOWTO-3.html - the extension packs are recognized, but the game segfaults when I change the driver (video is completly distorted). Any hints? W
[11:15] <JaZyLNX> anyone have any clues? when i try to boot i get ext3-fs error unable to read inode block.. is there any way running a fs check? from cd rom?
[11:15] <Pistahh> RezDawg: when mounting it did it say "mounting read only" ?
[11:15] <_jason> ventz:  can you figure out the username by going to "users and groups" under administration?
[11:15] <DonVincenzo> is somebody using mathcad under wine ?
[11:15] <cyphase> ventz, the username is ubuntu
[11:15] <ventz> _jason: i am currently NOT logged in
[11:15] <ventz> that's the problem :)
[11:15] <Berhert> How am I supposed to get my broadcom wirless card in my hp nx9020 laptop to speak with my router? ....anyone....
[11:15] <Korio> lol my speakers started to blip and blop and suddenly I had sound in Gaim wtf??
[11:15] <nalioth> JaZyLNX: boot into rescue mode, or use a livecd
[11:16] <cyphase> as for the password, i don't know
[11:16] <RezDawg> Pistahh, i had it in the USB slot before i turned on the puter so it was already mounted when i booted
[11:16] <ventz> i know a simple sudo will get me root otherwise
[11:16] <cyphase> maybe it's blank
[11:16] <JaZyLNX> nalioth, i have the 4.10 cd can that one boot into rescue mode?
[11:16] <Pistahh> RezDawg: command prompt, type mount, does it say ro or rw?
[11:16] <Korio> lol my speakers started to blip and blop and suddenly I had sound in Gaim wtf??
[11:17] <bipolar> Does anyone know why my Xorg log has this in it after setting up the nvidia drivers? "(WW) Ignoring request to load module GLcore"
[11:17] <bipolar> I'm getting a lousy framerate
[11:17] <nalioth> JaZyLNX: i think you'll need a livecd
[11:17] <D1> anyone know how to fix this?
[11:17] <JaZyLNX> alright once i get the live cd.. then what? fsck?
[11:17] <D1> ./filezilla: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.6' not found (required by ./filezilla)
[11:18] <JaZyLNX> or will i have to mount the drive and then runn the fsck
[11:18] <jjesse> anyone install nessus on a ubuntu server install?
[11:18] <RezDawg> pistahh: i unmounted it before you gave me the command and now im trying to figure out how to mount it again
[11:18] <jjesse> having problems w/ SSL and the libraries
[11:18] <Korio> lol my speakers started to blip and blop and suddenly I had sound in Gaim wtf??
[11:20] <warthawg> has anyone ever figured out why audigy 2 works out of the box with hoary but not with breezy?
[11:20] <targetx> warthawg, probably some new detection routine for it
[11:20] <targetx> does anyone know how to install resurrection of evil (Doom 3 Addon). ?
[11:21] <satori> just did a fresh install of breezy.. and cant seem to apt-get mplayer-286 mplayer or any of the gstreamer media stuff..
[11:21] <targetx> cause I have doom 3 installed and the Resurrection of Evil cd right next to me .. but I dunno how to install :)
[11:21] <satori> is this normal or something wrong with the repos
[11:21] <targetx> satori, have you tried refreshing repositories ?
[11:21] <satori> targetx,  its a fresh install should i have to?
[11:22] <targetx> satori, I think I had to
[11:22] <satori> root@br0k3n:/home/delaney# apt-get install mplayer-386
[11:22] <satori> Reading package lists... Done
[11:22] <satori> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:22] <satori> E: Couldn't find package mplayer-386
[11:22] <mitch_> wine is not wokring, it is not running, what is my problem
[11:22] <satori> targetx,  didnt work.
[11:22] <Berhert> How am I supposed to get my broadcom wirless card in my hp nx9020 laptop to speak with my router? ....anyone....
[11:22] <RezDawg> Pistahh: its RW
[11:23] <Pistahh> RezDawg: so can you write it as root?
[11:23] <aeon17x> mitch_: what do you mean by it isn't working?
[11:24] <RezDawg> pistahh: im not quite sure how to do that
[11:24] <Korio> anyone know how to replace the ubuntu firefox icon with the real one?
[11:24] <aeon17x> Korio: http://iconpacks.mozdev.org... I think
[11:25] <Pistahh> RezDawg: how did you mount it?
[11:25] <djnolan> what modem do you guys recommend for use with ubuntu or linux? im using freeware drivers and its 14.4kpbs max, i have to pay for the 56k drivers
[11:25] <RezDawg> i unplugged it and then plugged it back in
[11:26] <b|d-vorador> im still having the same issue with k3b as i did with gnomebaker wtf
[11:26] <b|d-vorador> says disc isnt large enough when it is!!!!!! GOD
[11:27] <RezDawg> Pistahh, okay it let me delete them one at a time, but i couldnt delete the folder
[11:27] <KinkoBlast> rm -r (whatever)
[11:27] <NetDreamz> wow
[11:27] <NetDreamz> I'm on ubuntu right now
[11:27] <NetDreamz> 3rd disk I grapped was the right one
[11:27] <NetDreamz> :D
[11:28] <mojo> nalioth: Thanks for all your help so far.  Setting xorg.conf to just one resolution didn't help...  I am beginning to suspect it may be something else.  I can go the long way around and try to re-make the user's account.  Thanks again for trying.
[11:28] <Korio> aeon17x, i installed an icon via firefox but it didnt work
[11:28] <Korio> from that site
[11:28] <factotum> hehe, got a g4 dual today, wonder what I should do with it...hmmm
[11:29] <RezDawg> Pistahh, well thanks for your help, i dont know what happened but i got them removed 1 at a time and then it let me delete the folder afterwards
[11:29] <TTilus> factotum: distributed computing challenges?
[11:29] <TTilus> factotum: find new primes?
[11:30] <RezDawg> part
[11:30] <factotum> heh heh, actually i need it for work, adobe n such. <<one of those lame design brats
[11:31] <aeon17x> Korio: good thing you tried it, I was about to do the same thing =/
[11:31] <TTilus> factotum: work?  who needs dual G4 to work!?  :D
[11:31] <factotum> but at least i can quit with the bother of dual-booting anything anymore
[11:31] <factotum> haha
[11:31] <Mabus01> 
[11:32] <kurtkraut> Hi. I have this USB deviced plugged in my PC. How can I access its memory ? Bus 003 Device 002: ID 10d6:1100 Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd
[11:32] <kurtkraut> It is a MP3 player. I would like to transfer mp3 from mu hard disk to this device.
[11:33] <SuperBob> maybe you should mount it?
[11:33] <nalioth> mojo: if its a userspace problem, instead of mucking with settings, you might make a new user account
[11:33] <TTilus> kurtkraut: it doesnt mount automatically?
[11:34] <palace> j
[11:34] <kurtkraut> TTilus, where it is mounted ? what folder ?
[11:34] <daaku> anyone know if there are any issues i should read on regarding RAID 0 w/ ubuntu? (still waiting on my system, but wanna make sure i know what to do when it gets here)
[11:34] <TTilus> kurtkraut: see if you have /dev/sd*
[11:34] <palace> hello
[11:34] <TTilus> kurtkraut: if it mounts automatically it appears to /media and to your desktop too
[11:34] <palace> how can i mount my modem?
[11:35] <JaZyLNX> heh mount
[11:35] <TTilus> palace: "mount modem"?
[11:35] <palace> yes
[11:35] <TTilus> palace: what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:35] <aeon17x> palace: you only mount drives, I think.
[11:35] <aeon17x> palace: or partitions.
[11:35] <kurtkraut> TTilus, it is not on /media ... /media has only /media/cdrom and /media/floppy and /media/floppy0
[11:35] <SuperBob> maybe /dev/sda1?
[11:35] <TTilus> aeon17x: if modem has disk drive embedded?  :D
[11:35] <palace> i cant fiks the driver for my modem
[11:35] <intelikey> cli Q: command to install all security patches ?
[11:36] <jas_> Can someone help me with an install of quake4?
[11:36] <TTilus> kurtkraut: then ls /dev/sd*
[11:36] <intelikey> mount modem ?????
[11:36] <aeon17x> TTilus: a SIM card??
[11:36] <jas_> I may be retarded but I can't get this .run file to run
[11:36] <aeon17x> oh man, he left us
[11:36] <ksmurf> hello all. anyone have any exper with getting nxclient working on breezy?
[11:36] <TTilus> palace: so, you have a modem, is it xDSL or telephone thingie?
[11:37] <kurtkraut> TTilus, /dev/sda
[11:37] <kurtkraut>  was listed. How can I mount it ?
[11:37] <TTilus> PalleLap: you use word "fix", has the modem worked before?
[11:37] <jas_> cafuego: Hey whats up?
[11:37] <luisito> hi!
[11:37] <TTilus> kurtkraut: man mount
[11:37] <ksmurf> or FreeNX as a whole?
[11:37] <TTilus> kurtkraut: sudo mkdir /media/usbdrive
[11:37] <miq> did anyone try qt-designer on breezy?
[11:38] <kurtkraut> TTilus, and then mount /dev/sda /media /usbdrive, right ?
[11:38] <TTilus> kurtkraut: sudo mount /dev/sda /media/usbdrive
[11:38] <cjuner_> I have problems with my microphone. I am using Breezy's default kernel. As far as I understand OSS (or rather the installed Alsa-OSS emulator) is set up for recording and ALSA for playing sound. Playing sound is just fine. If I unmute my microphone I can hear the sounds from my speakers but when I am trying to record something (with gnome-sound-recorder) it only records some wierd snaps. Also the settings of gnome-volume-control are neve
[11:38] <cjuner_> r stored :(
[11:38] <luisito> I need to know something about wxWidgets
[11:38] <jas_> Can anyone hlp me?
[11:39] <intelikey> anybody    cli Q: command to install all security patches ?
[11:39] <TTilus> cjuner_: something wrong with the mixer perhaps?
[11:39] <cjuner_> jas_ I am not sure. Did you try to run it in the command line? :D
[11:39] <TTilus> cjuner_: have you tried another mixer app
[11:39] <kurtkraut> TTilus, thanks a lot :D
[11:39] <jas_> cjuner: I am new to linux for the most part I am not really sure on commands on how to run stuff.
[11:40] <cjuner_> TTilus, could be. alsamixer is stored after setting something but gnome-volume-control does not load those settings. It seems like the gnome-sound-recorder ignores those.
[11:40] <TTilus> kurtkraut: mounted successfully?
[11:40] <aeon17x> intelikey: Ubuntu has its own update manager, it'll tell you when the patches are out and ask you to install it automatically.
[11:40] <jas_> cjuner_: I am new to linux for the most part I am not really sure on commands on how to run stuff.
[11:40] <luisito> in Synaptic I see a 2.4 version and a 2.6 version. The 2.6 covers the 2.4?
[11:40] <TTilus> cjuner_: i would go with alsamixer
[11:40] <skullzBOFH> adios
[11:40] <kurtkraut> TTilus, no errors were prompted
[11:40] <TTilus> kurtkraut: ls /media/usbdrive
[11:40] <cjuner_> TTilus, another application I can test recording? It doesn't work with gnome-sound-recorder.
[11:40] <intelikey> aeon17x so does that mean there are no patches for hoary ?
[11:41] <cjuner_> jas_ Just open up a terminal (Applications -> System tools -> Terminal).
[11:41] <TTilus> cjuner_: audacity?
[11:41] <kurtkraut> TTilus, yes, it was successufly mounted
[11:41] <TTilus> kurtkraut: there you go!
[11:41] <intelikey> i didn't think so.    so what is the command ?
[11:41] <ksmurf> or is then anyway to use ssh change configs in gnome over ssh?
[11:41] <luisito> jas_, google for "bash commands"
[11:41] <TTilus> kurtkraut: remember to unmount before you pull the plug  :)
[11:41] <cjuner_> TTilus, seems like audacity only supports OSS. Probably have to kill esd...
[11:42] <ksmurf> cjuner kill the sound server
[11:42] <jas_> cjunner_: Yeah I just need to know how I open the file it is in .run format.
[11:42] <ksmurf> then start audacity
[11:42] <intelikey> aeon17x and a better question might be how does it tell you ?    what does it use to notify users ?
[11:42] <cjuner_> ksmurf thanks :)
[11:42] <TTilus> cjuner_: huhh... i dont really know that much about linux sound gadgets, if you know what you are doing, just go on...  ;)
[11:42] <ksmurf> the restart sound server if u need it
[11:42] <kurtkraut> TTilus, I can only copy files to the mounted unit with sudo. How can I avoid that ?
[11:42] <TTilus> kurtkraut: mount parameters
[11:42] <kurtkraut> TTilus, oh, ok
[11:42] <cjuner_> TTilus, I usually don't :(
[11:42] <ksmurf> hello all. anyone have any exper with getting nxclient working on breezy?
[11:43] <ksmurf> or FreeNX as a whole?
[11:43] <Fordprefect> hi there
[11:43] <TTilus> kurtkraut: filesystem type is propably something fat-related
[11:43] <luisito> jas_, usually you type "./filename" in the terminal
[11:43] <ksmurf> hey ya Ford
[11:43] <cjuner_> jas_ Well... double clicking not seems to work. So open up the terminal. type "cd /media/cdrom0" (if that is you cdrom drive) and then "./.run"
[11:43] <Fordprefect> how it going ?
[11:43] <ksmurf> good.... u?
[11:43] <luisito> jas_, or "bash filename"
[11:44] <Fordprefect> not bad, having a few funnies with badger but hey ho
[11:44] <n0odl3> does anyone here use open box?
[11:44] <TTilus> kurtkraut: man mount -> "Mount options for fat"
[11:44] <Fordprefect> sorry I don't
[11:44] <ksmurf> welcome to the club... what up?
[11:44] <TTilus> kurtkraut: you have to set uid=value and gid=value
[11:44] <cjuner_> TTilus, ok audacity records. But the quality is really bad :(
[11:44] <n0odl3> does anyone here use openbox ?
[11:45] <luisito> jas_, be sure you are routed into the directory the file you want to run is in
[11:45] <Fordprefect> well I was using hedgehog and I was able to use all the back ports and security tools
[11:45] <jas_> Thanks it worked
[11:45] <TTilus> kurtkraut: sudo mount -o uid=youruid,gid=yourgid dev dir
[11:45] <cjuner_> jas_ Have fun!
[11:45] <Fordprefect> but badger refuses to let me install security tools using apt-get
[11:45] <TTilus> cjuner_: weird...
[11:45] <TedLemon> Can anyone give me some pointers on diagnosing why sound isn't working on my laptop with Breezy?
[11:46] <ksmurf> the auditing tools?
[11:46] <aeon17x> Fordprefect: you have to activate the repositories for it.
[11:46] <Fordprefect> I keep getting stat errors
[11:46] <ompaul> Fordprefect, sudo apt-get install whatever_is_in_my_repos
[11:46] <TTilus> cjuner_: clicks or distortion?
[11:46] <ompaul> !tell Fordprefect about repos
[11:46] <cjuner_> TTilus, distortion... Any problems known with nforce2 mainboards? Worked with hoary...
[11:47] <TTilus> cjuner_: check microphone gain from mixer
[11:47] <Fordprefect> activate repositories ? I can get all the boring stuff using apt-get
[11:47] <cjuner_> TTilus, mic boost is active. I'll try to turn it off.
[11:47] <TTilus> cjuner_: if the mic gives too strong signal it makes adc clip
[11:47] <Fordprefect> I need tools like amap, kismet and auditing stuff
[11:48] <TTilus> cjuner_: yep, boost off
[11:48] <jpfarias> hi
[11:48] <Oewyn> I'm connecting to the internet through a simple script that makes my wireless network connect, and dhclient3 to get dhcp information, but whenever i try to log into gnome, i get the popup: cannot find internet address for . <log-in> or <try again> i hit log-in and the popup stays there.
[11:48] <jpfarias> I've installed lilo on MBR but now I want to go back to GRUB, how do I do that?
[11:48] <ColonelKernel> is there a howto for installing the ati driver in ubuntu?
[11:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ColonelKernel about ati
[11:48] <TedLemon> ttilus - does that mean that you can use a typical x86 audio card microphone in for line-level audio?
[11:48] <RezDawg> I thought i fixed my usb drive problem but i didnt, how do i just format the whole drive
[11:48] <ompaul> Fordprefect, the bot told you about repos enable them and then try again
[11:48] <bluefoxicy> does the ubuntu-devel mailing list block unsubscribed posters?
[11:49] <TedLemon> oewyn: that's because your DNS PTR record isn't set up right.
[11:49] <TTilus> TedLemon: it definitely does not  :)
[11:49] <TedLemon> ttilus: Oh well, I figured not, but thought maybe I'd been missing out all these years.   :')
[11:49] <cjuner_> TTilus, still sounds not better. I sound like a robot :)
[11:49] <Oewyn> TedLemon: I looked at /etc/hosts and it looked like it had ipv6 info in it...
[11:49] <Fordprefect> so it's sudo apt-get install  <package??>
[11:49] <jenda> nalioth: About the 686 kernel from earlier,...
[11:49] <nalioth> jenda: yes?
[11:49] <ksmurf> Ford or use synaptic
[11:49] <TTilus> TedLemon: even if there is gain control present it propably cant do that much
[11:49] <TedLemon> oewyn: that won't do you any good with the dhcpv3 client - that only does dhcpv4.   I'm working on a v6 client, but it's not ready for prime time yet.
[11:49] <jpfarias> I've installed lilo on MBR but now I want to go back to GRUB, how do I do that?
[11:50] <Fordprefect> synaptic doesn't offer me the things I need
[11:50] <cjuner_> TTilus, any ideas?
[11:50] <TTilus> cjuner_: bad microphone?
[11:50] <jenda> nalioth: It seems what they were looking for is a way to rebuild everithing to be 686
[11:50] <Fordprefect> one sec I will try that
[11:50] <ksmurf> jp with great pain
[11:50] <TTilus> cjuner_: does it work anywhere else?
[11:50] <nalioth> jenda: pointless, but time consuming
[11:50] <luisito> anyone have installed the lmule?
[11:50] <Oewyn> TedLemon: is there anyway to avoid the error, or do i have to make sure that i'm not connected before logging on to be able to continue?
[11:50] <ptlo> Fordprefect, synaptic and apt-get install consult the same package list. if you don't see it in synaptic, apt-get install also won't work
[11:51] <bluefoxicy> jpfarias:  either grub-install \(hd0\) or use 'grub' and from the grub shell do 'root (hd0,0)' and 'setup (hd0)', where hd0,0 is your / partition (it should have /boot on it) and hd0 is the hard disk that gets booted
[11:51] <jenda> nalioth: Alright. I guess I'll just leave them to it.
[11:51] <cjuner_> TTilus, worked three weeks ago with hoary. I'll test it again.
[11:51] <cjuner_> TTilus, so... Thanks for your help.
[11:51] <nalioth> jenda: to each their own, as it goes
[11:51] <TTilus> cjuner_: ok, then its most propably software issue
[11:51] <jpfarias> bluefoxicy, ok, thanks
[11:51] <TedLemon> oewyn: I just ignore the error, personally, or get my ISP to fix up my PTR record.   If you have a NAT, you can set up an internal DNS server, but it's hardly worth the effort.
[11:52] <Fordprefect> I still keep getting stat errors and thats on the standard archive
[11:52] <bluefoxicy> jpfarias:  I tend to use the grub command line; I've had grub-install freeze.  That's how I get warty/hoary/breezy to install grub to XFS
[11:52] <TedLemon> oewyn:I think the long-term solution to the problem is to figure out why gnome wants the PTR record to have correct information in it, and find some other way to accomplish the same goal (i.e., I would describe this as a bug).
[11:52] <jenda> nalioth: Yup. THanks anyway
[11:52] <Fordprefect> I never got this problem with hedgehog
[11:52] <RezDawg> Can anyone help me with my usb thumbdrive problem, i cant seem to format it.
[11:52] <ptlo> Fordprefect, run: sudo apt-get update to u pdate the package lists
[11:52] <chaosblue> I'm trying to troubleshoot a faulty connection.  I noticed today when I checked netstat that the only IP actively listening is the localhost.  Isn't it supposed to be the IP?
[11:52] <Oewyn> TedLemon: the problem is though, i get that error all the time, but normally it's when i'm not connected to the internet, i can click continue, and go on, but if i make my script so that i'm connected to the internet and i get this popup when i log-in, i cannot continue, i have to ctrl-alt-backspace, and login via failsafe terminal
[11:52] <Fordprefect> ok
[11:53] <TedLemon> oewyn: ah.
[11:53] <Fordprefect> thats working better thanks
[11:53] <Oewyn> TedLemon: The button does the "depressed" animation, then the system doesn't do anything else
[11:53] <TedLemon> oewyn: when you get this error, try to log in on a console, and see what your IP address is.   If any.   Hack a /etc/hosts entry for that IP address, and maybe gnome will let you in.
[11:54] <sunshine82> there somethin odd goin on on my computer debian installed it selff in application it disappears adn appears when it eady what does this mean my computer is login it self out as well
[11:54] <Oewyn> TedLemon: okay is there anyway to pause irssi or switch to another console w/out quiting it?
[11:54] <TedLemon> oewyn: you can get a console window with ctl+alt+F1, and get back to Gnome with CTL+alt+F7.
[11:54] <Fordprefect> thats brilliant, thanks guys. I was just doing something stoopid
[11:54] <Distro^Junkie> how do I update kubuntu 5.04 to the latest release ?
[11:54] <Oewyn> ah okay
[11:55] <jpfarias> gotta reboot :-)
[11:55] <mitch_> im having probllems instaLLING AGAME
[11:55] <DonVincenzo> is anybody connected to Kad network here ?
[11:55] <sionide> what do i do if "apt-get -f install" still doesn't fix stuff?
[11:55] <mitch_> i RIPPED THE ISOS, BECAUSE IT WANTS TO CHANGE DISCs, *sorry for caps* and i dunno what to do right now, it doesn't see isos, it wants a cd, and if i unmount/mount again it doesnt work, what should i do (using wine)
[11:56] <sionide> trying to upgrade to breezy and it's gone shit so far
[11:56] <cjuner> TTilus, hmm I had another try and turned the mic recording volume down. In audacity it now worked quite well. In gnome-sound-control it is now distorted (instead of in a wrong pitch or so).... Really curious. One moment ago it did not work at all.
[11:56] <nalioth> sionide: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[11:56] <sionide> nalioth: why? i don't use kubuntu
[11:56] <nalioth> sionide: it's a quiet channel where you wont have to scroll all the time
[11:56] <nalioth> sionide: i dont use kubuntu either
[11:56] <jenda> sionide:  #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:56] <sionide> ok good idea
[11:57] <sionide> heh
[11:57] <mitch_> i RIPPED THE ISOS, BECAUSE IT WANTS TO CHANGE DISCs, *sorry for caps* and i dunno what to do right now, it doesn't see isos, it wants a cd, and if i unmount/mount again it doesnt work, what should i do (using wine)
[11:58] <sunshine82> help
[11:58] <sunshine82> there somethin odd goin on on my computer debian installed it selff in application it disappears adn appears when it eady what does this mean my computer is login it self out as well
[11:58] <Oewyn> TedLemon: Should i be looking for my wireless card's IP address, or ip address seen by the world (behind NAT)
[11:59] <mojo> nalioth: I fount that ~/.gnome2/yelp is the text file that keeps the user's screen geometry.  I changed it and now I can get the user logged back in to GNOME.  YAY!!!!!!
[11:59] <cevizoglu> which port does nfsd/nfs use?
[11:59] <nalioth> mojo: great!
[12:00] <sunshine82> is there somekind of hikjaker on my computer