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pituxhello02:37
pituxi want contrib to edubuntu02:37
pituxbut my english is bad02:37
KurtKrautpitux, never mind... I belive, besides your english is bad, you are good in your mother language02:39
KurtKrautpitux, you may help edubuntu translating things to your language02:39
pituxok02:42
pituxI am interesting in create comunnity edubuntu-es02:42
KurtKrautpitux, it might be a wonderful beginning02:43
pituxfor collaborate here02:43
pituxi speaked with mhz 02:43
pituxhe speak spanish02:43
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KurtKrautpitux, yo hablo un poco tambien ;D02:44
KurtKrautpitux, pero no mucho02:44
pituxok02:45
pituxi am teacher02:45
pituxof mathematics02:45
pituxi am interesting in the integration of the Tics to the education02:46
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glen_good evening04:11
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Merlin---whats the best way to make a duplicate of an HDD? ive searched all over and have always used 'dd' on the fly; but when issueing ' dd if=/hda1 of=/hdb1 ' in shell, the 2nd hdd will have I/O errors when trying to enter any directories... is there something im missing or is there a quick application that can do an HDD clone to make a backup on a 2nd hdd?07:21
Merlin---#ubuntuhelp07:23
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getacereshi, is anyone talking spanish here?12:51
highvoltagenope.12:51
highvoltageoh, sorry, i read that as "is everyone talking..."12:52
highvoltagegetaceres: i think there are some spanish people here now and again.12:52
getaceresI want to know about the edubuntu internacionalization state12:52
highvoltagegetaceres: is it an edubuntu question or ubuntu? there's a spanish ubuntu channel on #ubuntu-es12:52
getaceresI installed gcompris in Kubuntu but I see that all the texts are in english12:53
bluefrog-10i think u need to install the spanish localisation as well12:54
bluefrog-10but as i write i think u already have it12:54
bluefrog-10don't u?12:54
getaceresthere's only files of spanish for sound12:55
getaceresbut there's no i18n package for gcompris12:55
bluefrog-10your system is english or spanish?12:55
Yagisangetaceres: only english fits on the cd, you need to download the rest12:56
getaceresI downloaded it12:59
getaceresmy system is spanish01:00
getaceresI installed it from a Kubuntu install01:00
getaceresmaybe is because I'm running it from KDE?01:00
bluefrog-10shouldn't interfere01:00
getaceresother GTK+ applications run in Spanish, like synaptic or firefox01:00
bluefrog-10if you type locale in a terminal what does it give?01:01
getaceresLANG=es_ES.UTF-801:03
getaceresLC_CTYPE="es_ES.UTF-8"01:03
getaceresLC_NUMERIC="es_ES.UTF-8"01:03
getaceresLC_TIME="es_ES.UTF-8"01:03
getaceresLC_COLLATE="es_ES.UTF-8"01:03
getaceresLC_MONETARY="es_ES.UTF-8"01:03
getaceresLC_MESSAGES="es_ES.UTF-8"01:03
getaceresLC_PAPER="es_ES.UTF-8"01:03
bluefrog-10kkk01:03
getaceresLC_NAME="es_ES.UTF-8"01:03
getaceresLC_ADDRESS="es_ES.UTF-8"01:03
getaceresLC_TELEPHONE="es_ES.UTF-8"01:03
getaceresLC_MEASUREMENT="es_ES.UTF-8"01:03
getaceresLC_IDENTIFICATION="es_ES.UTF-8"01:03
getaceresLC_ALL=01:03
bluefrog-10afraid i can't help right now01:03
bluefrog-10have a go in #ubuntu-es if u haven't tried yet01:04
getaceresok01:04
getaceresI'll try01:04
getaceresthere's something more01:05
getaceresI configured it to open in 1024x768 fullscreen, but it keeps opening in 800x60001:05
getaceresmaybe it doesn't save my configuration right?01:05
bluefrog-10obviously yes01:06
getaceresI get this when running it from a console:01:08
getaceres** (gcompris:5998): WARNING **: config_file /home/jose/.gcompris/gcompris.conf01:08
getaceres** Message: gcompris_set_locale ''01:08
getaceres** (gcompris:5998): WARNING **: Requested locale '' got 'es_ES.UTF-8'01:08
getaceresMix_OpenAudio: No available audio device.01:08
getaceres: No available audio device.01:08
getaceresinit_plugins 0,095003 sec.01:08
getaceresgcompris_load_menus 0,099230 sec.01:08
getaceresgcompris_load_mime_types 0,101184 sec.01:08
getaceres__main__:1: DeprecationWarning: Module gnome.canvas is deprecated; please import gnomecanvas in                            stead01:08
getaceresNot using psyco (psyco.sf.net), AI not a maximum speed!01:08
getaceresI haven't configured my sound card01:08
getaceresthe audio error is normal01:09
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Zaheerhello all02:09
Zaheerwhat is a good ide to develop C++ applications on ubuntu?02:10
bimberiHi Zaheer: anjuta perhaps, eclipse, kdevelop02:15
Zaheerwhat do the ubuntu developers use?02:17
bimberino idea, probably vi(m) or emacs02:18
Zaheerok abit over my head then :D02:19
Zaheeri'll try anjuta and eclipse... dont mean to sound silly but can you use kdevelop on gnome ?02:20
bimberiZaheer: you can (and it's not a silly question :) ), it just means that a lot of kde libraries need to be installed - and loaded when you run it02:21
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highvoltagehi JaneW 03:27
weasl77_bineri/zaheer: are not the education modules in edubuntu written for kde? in which case, the necessary kde is probably installed03:30
highvoltageweasl77_: kde applications do not need the entire kde, just the base kdelibs03:33
JaneWhello highvoltage 03:37
highvoltagedo you have edubuntu installed on your laptop?03:38
highvoltagei told richard that you could show him schooltool some time.03:38
JaneWhighvoltage: no I don;t have edubuntu installed yet03:39
JaneWin fact Ihave yet to upgrade to breexy03:39
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highvoltageoic.03:40
JaneWI intend to do both while I am here03:40
JaneWRichard...?03:40
highvoltageok, i gtg now. enjoy UBL!03:40
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weasl77for zaheer's benefit, was just hoping!!03:51
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symbuloshi there.04:03
symbulosDo you know of anyone using edubuntu in Ethiopia?04:03
symbulosalso, we would like to have a copy of Edubuntu cds. Is there a place that does CDs copies and sends them? we would pay postage/cds.04:04
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symbulosdo you know of anyone interested in Amharic ( eventually also Orominja / Tigrinja )localisation?04:10
juliuxsymbulos, i don't know it but i can e-mail somebody who should know it04:15
juliuxsymbulos, or you wait if ogra is here04:15
symbulosjuliux: thanks!04:15
symbulosjuliux: when is he/she here usually (time of day)04:16
juliuxsymbulos, no problem04:16
juliuxsymbulos, i don't know because is at UBZ04:16
symbulosUBZ?04:16
juliuxubuntu bellow zero04:16
juliuxin montreal/canada04:16
juliuxit is the developer meeting 04:16
juliuxbut after the ubz he is here normaly from 8:00-8:00 utc04:18
juliuxhere04:18
symbulosgood04:19
juliuxbut JaneW should it also know i think04:19
symbulosjuliux: is it possible to get a edubuntu cd from someone there? I would pay postage / cds04:20
symbulosis JaneW here around?04:20
juliuxi think so04:20
juliuxsymbulos, there are no official edubuntu cds04:20
juliuxbut if there is no other soulotion i can burn you some04:20
symbuloswhat do you mean official?04:21
symbuloswe live in very rural england, fastest speed we can get is 13K, we wanted to use it for a demo in a local school.04:22
juliuxthere are no cds from canonical 04:22
symbulosyep, I saw (well, I did NOT see :-D)04:22
juliuxbut in the internet are iso for installation and i also think livecds04:23
symbulosat the same time, do not understand why the usual distributor do not distribute edubuntu (like www.linuxshop.co.uk)04:23
juliuxyes because edubuntu is a very special product04:24
symbulosyep, but download takes ages at 13k.04:24
juliuxoh ok04:24
juliuxthat isn't very much04:24
symbulosno it is not :-D04:25
juliuxok if there no one else i can you burn the images send them to you but i am from germany 04:26
juliuxand if you want i can you also burn the edubuntu dvd04:26
symbulosthanks. I get a look around. If do not find anyone else would you be so gentle? I pay for everything.04:27
juliuxi have enough bandwith here04:27
juliuxsymbulos, if you want send me a e-mail to juliux@ubuntu-de.org04:28
symbulosok, thanks a lot04:28
juliuxnp04:28
symbuloshow can i contact JanetW?04:28
juliuxwait04:28
symbuloswaiting :-904:33
symbulos:-)04:33
juliuxyes 04:33
juliuxwaiting and drinking tee 04:33
symbulos(coffee with cream, really :-D)04:34
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symbulosjuliux: thanks. talk to you later.04:48
juliuxsymbulos, ok04:48
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JaneWjuliux: I am here, but not on IRC much, e-mails would be better if you need me to respond...06:25
JaneWthere are no printed CDs available at this time, but we are hoping to get a limited print run, but this is not yet confirmed.06:26
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jsgotangcohey JaneW 06:59
jsgotangcowhen are you flying?06:59
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\shok...last preparations....07:40
\shshoes have to be tied to my rucksack...no place left in my bag07:41
jsgotangcohehe07:46
jsgotangcoyou're very excited about the trip =)07:46
\shah well no...I just nervous because of take offs and landings...that's all07:47
jsgotangcoreally...07:48
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\shsince I flew with delta airlines :( 07:48
jsgotangcoargghhh07:49
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\shand I think I'll have trouble tomorrow with the security...when they see all my toys in my backpack ;)07:50
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ogra\sh, make sure to declare the toy stuff, you'll get way faster through customs 08:07
\shogra: declare?08:07
ograyes, you have to fill out a crad in the plane to declare things like tobacco, alcohol etc...08:08
ograi declared my AP and switch as tools for a commercial presentatin08:08
\shoh will do08:09
\shwell...the two laptops and the dlink AP08:09
\shthe rest is cable stuff08:09
ograso the didnt want to see the contents of my bag (which they wanted from everyone else on the plane... they all had to unpack *everything*)08:09
juliuxogra, hi08:09
ograbut wanted to see the AP and the switch... were fine and waved me through08:09
ograhi juliux 08:10
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=== enyc meeps
juliuxogra, if you have time to come to essen, would make a workshop with me abount edubuntu?08:11
ograsure08:11
juliuxogra, cool08:11
\shogra: I'm attending in essen ;) just for the "Take A Photo With A MOTU" happening *lol*08:12
juliux\sh, yeah08:12
ograheh08:14
\shogra: I'll take my two multiple sockets with me...makes 11 sockets ;) but I need them again at home ;)08:17
\shok...going to bed...08:26
highvoltageogra: hi there.08:27
highvoltageogra: i contacted Kuswanto, he's the guy who did the gartoon theme.08:27
ogracool08:28
highvoltagehe's very pleased to see his artwork in edubuntu, he didn't know how far it was used.08:28
highvoltagehe said he'll be glad to make us some OOo icons.08:28
highvoltageso i guess i'll be learning how to hack openoffice and perhaps how to package it properly this december. shew!08:28
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ograhighvoltage, ok, lets talk to doko about it then, he's mr ooo08:31
highvoltageok.08:31
=== enyc woiting to hear more from the nursery-users of edubuntu ;-)
highvoltagenursery-users?08:44
enycyes'08:44
highvoltagewhat is that?08:44
enycin daycare nursery ;p08:44
highvoltageaaaaaaah08:44
highvoltageogra: you ever listen to rammstein?08:45
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enychow silly08:45
ograhighvoltage, lets say, i can bear it :)08:45
ograits certainly not in my favorites but its ok08:45
highvoltageogra: what kind of music do you listen to then, or are you not a big music listener?08:46
ogranearly everything... i didnt hear much music the last years08:47
enyc~000008:53
JaneWargh, jet lag is catching up with me...09:34
JaneWis it bed time yet?09:34
juliuxit's 19:34 UTC09:35
JaneW4:30pm here09:40
JaneWoops 4:40 now09:40
ograJaneW, install gwordclock ;)09:43
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JaneWogra: does it take jet lag away? :)09:58
ograhehe, not really ... but you can see the time in the different timezones09:58
JaneWI am now regretting get up early this am...10:00
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mhzhi11:00
ograho11:00
mhzhow's montreal?11:00
mhzi was reading about ltspFS...it sounds pretty cool11:01
ogracold11:01
ograhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltspfs/11:01
ogra;)11:01
ograjust packaged it11:01
mhzogra: yesterday, i presented edubuntu to about 60 people (mostly highschool students)11:02
ograltspfsd is just in my hands 11:02
mhzogra: ltspfs great !!! you definately rock11:02
ogralets see... i need to get it included sanely in our environment... currently thats only the package :)11:03
mhzogra: after presentations, 5 university students asked me if they could cooperate with development. I said yes, but they have huge issues with english. Can i just start a ML edubuntu-la? and be a kind of 'interpreter' from them to you?11:04
mhzogra: but we all know you'll make it good11:04
ograi'll talk to our mailing list maintainer11:04
mhzthx11:05
mhzML will help, esp. considering we are almost ready for Edubuntu Chilean Tour11:05
ograhow many estimated initial subscribers would there be ? 11:05
mhzsubscribers today? no more than 12, for sure. Once the tour begins, no idea, but hopefully over 5011:06
mhzogra: any news about CD's or Edubuntu material for presentations (t-shirts, paper, posters, mugs or anything)?11:08
ogramhz, not yet... JaneW and i had not much time to talk yet11:09
ograbut i have one contact in germany who would probably be willing to produce CDs on demand11:10
mhzogra: Tour/ if we endup getting funds (we'll see once we begin, as we are knocking on some biz doors) we'd like to continue with a LA tour.11:10
ogramhz, then you should contact mdz, he's local11:10
mhz? what you mean?11:10
mhzBTW, we're working with a couple of Math teacher in order to combine Chilean educational curriculum with Edubuntu tools. Also, we're working on a kind of survey that helps us identify different teachers profiles and see who would actually be open minded enough to use IT tools.11:13
mhzSo far, we've detected som reticent teacher to use IT tools :(11:13
ogramdz is from LA11:16
ogramhz ^^11:16
mhzooohh11:18
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tinker1976good evening, who can answer me on simple questions about edubuntu?11:22
mhzshoot11:24
tinker1976isnt any live version of edubuntu?11:24
tinker1976even an old one?11:24
tinker1976i like it and i'd like to use it at school but 11:25
tinker1976they have got winxp installed and the system administrator is paranoic 11:25
tinker1976when he has to repartioning HDs :)11:26
mhznot yet11:26
tinker1976in italy we have got a distro eduknoppix 11:26
tinker1976and they distribute it at school 11:26
tinker1976but it hasnt as much as edulinux11:27
mhztinker1976: that admin MUST be paranoic esp. if he uses XP :) he knows the system will fail11:27
mhzagree11:27
tinker1976eheheh ... 11:27
tinker1976i wanted to show some progs to my students like 11:27
tinker1976(i dont remember the name)11:27
tinker1976the program to draw geometric figures11:28
tinker1976Kfig? 11:28
tinker1976anyway thanx a lot. I hope to see soon a live distro of edubuntu ... or my sysadmin changed school. See you soon. Bye 11:29
ogratinker1976, with the next release we'll have a liveCD too11:30
tinker1976really , when will it exit?11:31
mhzapril, i guess11:32
tinker1976what about the support for foreign languages?11:33
mhzwhat you mean?11:33
mhzI am already using edubuntu in spanish and english11:34
ogramhz, is it really edubuntu-la, not edubuntu-cl you want ? 11:34
ogratinker1976, we support 90 languages already 11:34
mhzwell... of course I'd prefer CL but then i thought I was being selfish ignoring other people needs in LA.11:35
tinker1976which differences are there beetween Cl and La? 11:35
tinker1976cleveland or los angeles :-))11:35
ogramhz, we wont support mailing lists for continents or continental parts ;) 11:35
ograjust pick your language or country for the suffix11:35
ograso it would be -cl i guess11:36
mhztinker1976: cl and la.. not many diff. LA and ES? well, many diff. because they use several (too many) words we do no tuse in Latin amercia11:36
mhzogra: okidoki11:36
ograwould you like to become listmaster ? 11:36
tinker1976ehehe i'll look for ubuntu-it :-) italian then11:36
mhzogra: will that be helpful? won't i be stepping on someone elses responsibilities? if not, then Ok, I have no problems11:37
ogramhz, normally it would be me.. but since i have no clue about spanish or any spanish based lang, i couldnt even consider spam from non spam11:38
mhzhehe11:38
ogramhz, are you ubuntu member already ? 11:38
mhzok, then i volunteer11:38
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mhzI can apply if you want/need me to. I hadn't mainly because I felt it was for developers (programmers or admins)11:39
ograit absolutely isnt !11:40
mhzlol11:40
ograbut you need a signed gpg key to sign the code of conduct...11:40
mhzsorry, that was my first impression the only time i though tabout it11:40
mhzogra: sure, gpg, no problem i can manage11:40
ograbut we have many LoCo team members that only do local support and documentation ... all are members11:41
mhzok, I'll start the process immediately11:41
mhzbut first I'll see if i fulfill the requirements11:42
mhzor that is not necessary?11:42
ogramake a wikipage that describes you... 11:42
ograadd all your contributions you made to ubuntu/edubuntu so far ...11:43
ogracreate a launchpad account and sign the code of conduct, the add yourself to the CommunityCouncil Agenda and apply for the launchpad members team...11:43
mhzoh, it sounds "well thought" and yet simple11:48
ograyou must attend the meeting and will be considered for member then ... 11:50
ograconsidering that jane and i will speak up for you (you already did a lot of good stuff) it should be fairly easy11:50
mhzcool, thx for the confidence11:54

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