[02:37] <pitux> hello
[02:37] <pitux> i want contrib to edubuntu
[02:37] <pitux> but my english is bad
[02:39] <KurtKraut> pitux, never mind... I belive, besides your english is bad, you are good in your mother language
[02:39] <KurtKraut> pitux, you may help edubuntu translating things to your language
[02:42] <pitux> ok
[02:42] <pitux> I am interesting in create comunnity edubuntu-es
[02:43] <KurtKraut> pitux, it might be a wonderful beginning
[02:43] <pitux> for collaborate here
[02:43] <pitux> i speaked with mhz 
[02:43] <pitux> he speak spanish
[02:44] <KurtKraut> pitux, yo hablo un poco tambien ;D
[02:44] <KurtKraut> pitux, pero no mucho
[02:45] <pitux> ok
[02:45] <pitux> i am teacher
[02:45] <pitux> of mathematics
[02:46] <pitux> i am interesting in the integration of the Tics to the education
[04:11] <glen_> good evening
[07:21] <Merlin---> whats the best way to make a duplicate of an HDD? ive searched all over and have always used 'dd' on the fly; but when issueing ' dd if=/hda1 of=/hdb1 ' in shell, the 2nd hdd will have I/O errors when trying to enter any directories... is there something im missing or is there a quick application that can do an HDD clone to make a backup on a 2nd hdd?
[07:23] <Merlin---> #ubuntuhelp
[12:51] <getaceres> hi, is anyone talking spanish here?
[12:51] <highvoltage> nope.
[12:52] <highvoltage> oh, sorry, i read that as "is everyone talking..."
[12:52] <highvoltage> getaceres: i think there are some spanish people here now and again.
[12:52] <getaceres> I want to know about the edubuntu internacionalization state
[12:52] <highvoltage> getaceres: is it an edubuntu question or ubuntu? there's a spanish ubuntu channel on #ubuntu-es
[12:53] <getaceres> I installed gcompris in Kubuntu but I see that all the texts are in english
[12:54] <bluefrog-10> i think u need to install the spanish localisation as well
[12:54] <bluefrog-10> but as i write i think u already have it
[12:54] <bluefrog-10> don't u?
[12:55] <getaceres> there's only files of spanish for sound
[12:55] <getaceres> but there's no i18n package for gcompris
[12:55] <bluefrog-10> your system is english or spanish?
[12:56] <Yagisan> getaceres: only english fits on the cd, you need to download the rest
[12:59] <getaceres> I downloaded it
[01:00] <getaceres> my system is spanish
[01:00] <getaceres> I installed it from a Kubuntu install
[01:00] <getaceres> maybe is because I'm running it from KDE?
[01:00] <bluefrog-10> shouldn't interfere
[01:00] <getaceres> other GTK+ applications run in Spanish, like synaptic or firefox
[01:01] <bluefrog-10> if you type locale in a terminal what does it give?
[01:03] <getaceres> LANG=es_ES.UTF-8
[01:03] <getaceres> LC_CTYPE="es_ES.UTF-8"
[01:03] <getaceres> LC_NUMERIC="es_ES.UTF-8"
[01:03] <getaceres> LC_TIME="es_ES.UTF-8"
[01:03] <getaceres> LC_COLLATE="es_ES.UTF-8"
[01:03] <getaceres> LC_MONETARY="es_ES.UTF-8"
[01:03] <getaceres> LC_MESSAGES="es_ES.UTF-8"
[01:03] <getaceres> LC_PAPER="es_ES.UTF-8"
[01:03] <bluefrog-10> kkk
[01:03] <getaceres> LC_NAME="es_ES.UTF-8"
[01:03] <getaceres> LC_ADDRESS="es_ES.UTF-8"
[01:03] <getaceres> LC_TELEPHONE="es_ES.UTF-8"
[01:03] <getaceres> LC_MEASUREMENT="es_ES.UTF-8"
[01:03] <getaceres> LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_ES.UTF-8"
[01:03] <getaceres> LC_ALL=
[01:03] <bluefrog-10> afraid i can't help right now
[01:04] <bluefrog-10> have a go in #ubuntu-es if u haven't tried yet
[01:04] <getaceres> ok
[01:04] <getaceres> I'll try
[01:05] <getaceres> there's something more
[01:05] <getaceres> I configured it to open in 1024x768 fullscreen, but it keeps opening in 800x600
[01:05] <getaceres> maybe it doesn't save my configuration right?
[01:06] <bluefrog-10> obviously yes
[01:08] <getaceres> I get this when running it from a console:
[01:08] <getaceres> ** (gcompris:5998): WARNING **: config_file /home/jose/.gcompris/gcompris.conf
[01:08] <getaceres> ** Message: gcompris_set_locale ''
[01:08] <getaceres> ** (gcompris:5998): WARNING **: Requested locale '' got 'es_ES.UTF-8'
[01:08] <getaceres> Mix_OpenAudio: No available audio device.
[01:08] <getaceres> : No available audio device.
[01:08] <getaceres> init_plugins 0,095003 sec.
[01:08] <getaceres> gcompris_load_menus 0,099230 sec.
[01:08] <getaceres> gcompris_load_mime_types 0,101184 sec.
[01:08] <getaceres> __main__:1: DeprecationWarning: Module gnome.canvas is deprecated; please import gnomecanvas in                            stead
[01:08] <getaceres> Not using psyco (psyco.sf.net), AI not a maximum speed!
[01:08] <getaceres> I haven't configured my sound card
[01:09] <getaceres> the audio error is normal
[02:09] <Zaheer> hello all
[02:10] <Zaheer> what is a good ide to develop C++ applications on ubuntu?
[02:15] <bimberi> Hi Zaheer: anjuta perhaps, eclipse, kdevelop
[02:17] <Zaheer> what do the ubuntu developers use?
[02:18] <bimberi> no idea, probably vi(m) or emacs
[02:19] <Zaheer> ok abit over my head then :D
[02:20] <Zaheer> i'll try anjuta and eclipse... dont mean to sound silly but can you use kdevelop on gnome ?
[02:21] <bimberi> Zaheer: you can (and it's not a silly question :) ), it just means that a lot of kde libraries need to be installed - and loaded when you run it
[03:27] <highvoltage> hi JaneW 
[03:30] <weasl77_> bineri/zaheer: are not the education modules in edubuntu written for kde? in which case, the necessary kde is probably installed
[03:33] <highvoltage> weasl77_: kde applications do not need the entire kde, just the base kdelibs
[03:37] <JaneW> hello highvoltage 
[03:38] <highvoltage> do you have edubuntu installed on your laptop?
[03:38] <highvoltage> i told richard that you could show him schooltool some time.
[03:39] <JaneW> highvoltage: no I don;t have edubuntu installed yet
[03:39] <JaneW> in fact Ihave yet to upgrade to breexy
[03:40] <highvoltage> oic.
[03:40] <JaneW> I intend to do both while I am here
[03:40] <JaneW> Richard...?
[03:40] <highvoltage> ok, i gtg now. enjoy UBL!
[03:51] <weasl77> for zaheer's benefit, was just hoping!!
[04:03] <symbulos> hi there.
[04:03] <symbulos> Do you know of anyone using edubuntu in Ethiopia?
[04:04] <symbulos> also, we would like to have a copy of Edubuntu cds. Is there a place that does CDs copies and sends them? we would pay postage/cds.
[04:10] <symbulos> do you know of anyone interested in Amharic ( eventually also Orominja / Tigrinja )localisation?
[04:15] <juliux> symbulos, i don't know it but i can e-mail somebody who should know it
[04:15] <juliux> symbulos, or you wait if ogra is here
[04:15] <symbulos> juliux: thanks!
[04:16] <symbulos> juliux: when is he/she here usually (time of day)
[04:16] <juliux> symbulos, no problem
[04:16] <juliux> symbulos, i don't know because is at UBZ
[04:16] <symbulos> UBZ?
[04:16] <juliux> ubuntu bellow zero
[04:16] <juliux> in montreal/canada
[04:16] <juliux> it is the developer meeting 
[04:18] <juliux> but after the ubz he is here normaly from 8:00-8:00 utc
[04:18] <juliux> here
[04:19] <symbulos> good
[04:19] <juliux> but JaneW should it also know i think
[04:20] <symbulos> juliux: is it possible to get a edubuntu cd from someone there? I would pay postage / cds
[04:20] <symbulos> is JaneW here around?
[04:20] <juliux> i think so
[04:20] <juliux> symbulos, there are no official edubuntu cds
[04:20] <juliux> but if there is no other soulotion i can burn you some
[04:21] <symbulos> what do you mean official?
[04:22] <symbulos> we live in very rural england, fastest speed we can get is 13K, we wanted to use it for a demo in a local school.
[04:22] <juliux> there are no cds from canonical 
[04:22] <symbulos> yep, I saw (well, I did NOT see :-D)
[04:23] <juliux> but in the internet are iso for installation and i also think livecds
[04:23] <symbulos> at the same time, do not understand why the usual distributor do not distribute edubuntu (like www.linuxshop.co.uk)
[04:24] <juliux> yes because edubuntu is a very special product
[04:24] <symbulos> yep, but download takes ages at 13k.
[04:24] <juliux> oh ok
[04:24] <juliux> that isn't very much
[04:25] <symbulos> no it is not :-D
[04:26] <juliux> ok if there no one else i can you burn the images send them to you but i am from germany 
[04:26] <juliux> and if you want i can you also burn the edubuntu dvd
[04:27] <symbulos> thanks. I get a look around. If do not find anyone else would you be so gentle? I pay for everything.
[04:27] <juliux> i have enough bandwith here
[04:28] <juliux> symbulos, if you want send me a e-mail to juliux@ubuntu-de.org
[04:28] <symbulos> ok, thanks a lot
[04:28] <juliux> np
[04:28] <symbulos> how can i contact JanetW?
[04:28] <juliux> wait
[04:33] <symbulos> waiting :-9
[04:33] <symbulos> :-)
[04:33] <juliux> yes 
[04:33] <juliux> waiting and drinking tee 
[04:34] <symbulos> (coffee with cream, really :-D)
[04:48] <symbulos> juliux: thanks. talk to you later.
[04:48] <juliux> symbulos, ok
[06:25] <JaneW> juliux: I am here, but not on IRC much, e-mails would be better if you need me to respond...
[06:26] <JaneW> there are no printed CDs available at this time, but we are hoping to get a limited print run, but this is not yet confirmed.
[06:59] <jsgotangco> hey JaneW 
[06:59] <jsgotangco> when are you flying?
[07:40] <\sh> ok...last preparations....
[07:41] <\sh> shoes have to be tied to my rucksack...no place left in my bag
[07:46] <jsgotangco> hehe
[07:46] <jsgotangco> you're very excited about the trip =)
[07:47] <\sh> ah well no...I just nervous because of take offs and landings...that's all
[07:48] <jsgotangco> really...
[07:48] <\sh> since I flew with delta airlines :( 
[07:49] <jsgotangco> argghhh
[07:50] <\sh> and I think I'll have trouble tomorrow with the security...when they see all my toys in my backpack ;)
[08:07] <ogra> \sh, make sure to declare the toy stuff, you'll get way faster through customs 
[08:07] <\sh> ogra: declare?
[08:08] <ogra> yes, you have to fill out a crad in the plane to declare things like tobacco, alcohol etc...
[08:08] <ogra> i declared my AP and switch as tools for a commercial presentatin
[08:09] <\sh> oh will do
[08:09] <\sh> well...the two laptops and the dlink AP
[08:09] <\sh> the rest is cable stuff
[08:09] <ogra> so the didnt want to see the contents of my bag (which they wanted from everyone else on the plane... they all had to unpack *everything*)
[08:09] <juliux> ogra, hi
[08:09] <ogra> but wanted to see the AP and the switch... were fine and waved me through
[08:10] <ogra> hi juliux 
[08:11] <juliux> ogra, if you have time to come to essen, would make a workshop with me abount edubuntu?
[08:11] <ogra> sure
[08:11] <juliux> ogra, cool
[08:12] <\sh> ogra: I'm attending in essen ;) just for the "Take A Photo With A MOTU" happening *lol*
[08:12] <juliux> \sh, yeah
[08:14] <ogra> heh
[08:17] <\sh> ogra: I'll take my two multiple sockets with me...makes 11 sockets ;) but I need them again at home ;)
[08:26] <\sh> ok...going to bed...
[08:27] <highvoltage> ogra: hi there.
[08:27] <highvoltage> ogra: i contacted Kuswanto, he's the guy who did the gartoon theme.
[08:28] <ogra> cool
[08:28] <highvoltage> he's very pleased to see his artwork in edubuntu, he didn't know how far it was used.
[08:28] <highvoltage> he said he'll be glad to make us some OOo icons.
[08:28] <highvoltage> so i guess i'll be learning how to hack openoffice and perhaps how to package it properly this december. shew!
[08:31] <ogra> highvoltage, ok, lets talk to doko about it then, he's mr ooo
[08:31] <highvoltage> ok.
[08:44] <highvoltage> nursery-users?
[08:44] <enyc> yes'
[08:44] <highvoltage> what is that?
[08:44] <enyc> in daycare nursery ;p
[08:44] <highvoltage> aaaaaaah
[08:45] <highvoltage> ogra: you ever listen to rammstein?
[08:45] <enyc> how silly
[08:45] <ogra> highvoltage, lets say, i can bear it :)
[08:45] <ogra> its certainly not in my favorites but its ok
[08:46] <highvoltage> ogra: what kind of music do you listen to then, or are you not a big music listener?
[08:47] <ogra> nearly everything... i didnt hear much music the last years
[08:53] <enyc> ~0000
[09:34] <JaneW> argh, jet lag is catching up with me...
[09:34] <JaneW> is it bed time yet?
[09:35] <juliux> it's 19:34 UTC
[09:40] <JaneW> 4:30pm here
[09:40] <JaneW> oops 4:40 now
[09:43] <ogra> JaneW, install gwordclock ;)
[09:58] <JaneW> ogra: does it take jet lag away? :)
[09:58] <ogra> hehe, not really ... but you can see the time in the different timezones
[10:00] <JaneW> I am now regretting get up early this am...
[11:00] <mhz> hi
[11:00] <ogra> ho
[11:00] <mhz> how's montreal?
[11:01] <mhz> i was reading about ltspFS...it sounds pretty cool
[11:01] <ogra> cold
[11:01] <ogra> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltspfs/
[11:01] <ogra> ;)
[11:01] <ogra> just packaged it
[11:02] <mhz> ogra: yesterday, i presented edubuntu to about 60 people (mostly highschool students)
[11:02] <ogra> ltspfsd is just in my hands 
[11:02] <mhz> ogra: ltspfs great !!! you definately rock
[11:03] <ogra> lets see... i need to get it included sanely in our environment... currently thats only the package :)
[11:04] <mhz> ogra: after presentations, 5 university students asked me if they could cooperate with development. I said yes, but they have huge issues with english. Can i just start a ML edubuntu-la? and be a kind of 'interpreter' from them to you?
[11:04] <mhz> ogra: but we all know you'll make it good
[11:04] <ogra> i'll talk to our mailing list maintainer
[11:05] <mhz> thx
[11:05] <mhz> ML will help, esp. considering we are almost ready for Edubuntu Chilean Tour
[11:05] <ogra> how many estimated initial subscribers would there be ? 
[11:06] <mhz> subscribers today? no more than 12, for sure. Once the tour begins, no idea, but hopefully over 50
[11:08] <mhz> ogra: any news about CD's or Edubuntu material for presentations (t-shirts, paper, posters, mugs or anything)?
[11:09] <ogra> mhz, not yet... JaneW and i had not much time to talk yet
[11:10] <ogra> but i have one contact in germany who would probably be willing to produce CDs on demand
[11:10] <mhz> ogra: Tour/ if we endup getting funds (we'll see once we begin, as we are knocking on some biz doors) we'd like to continue with a LA tour.
[11:10] <ogra> mhz, then you should contact mdz, he's local
[11:10] <mhz> ? what you mean?
[11:13] <mhz> BTW, we're working with a couple of Math teacher in order to combine Chilean educational curriculum with Edubuntu tools. Also, we're working on a kind of survey that helps us identify different teachers profiles and see who would actually be open minded enough to use IT tools.
[11:13] <mhz> So far, we've detected som reticent teacher to use IT tools :(
[11:16] <ogra> mdz is from LA
[11:16] <ogra> mhz ^^
[11:18] <mhz> ooohh
[11:22] <tinker1976> good evening, who can answer me on simple questions about edubuntu?
[11:24] <mhz> shoot
[11:24] <tinker1976> isnt any live version of edubuntu?
[11:24] <tinker1976> even an old one?
[11:25] <tinker1976> i like it and i'd like to use it at school but 
[11:25] <tinker1976> they have got winxp installed and the system administrator is paranoic 
[11:26] <tinker1976> when he has to repartioning HDs :)
[11:26] <mhz> not yet
[11:26] <tinker1976> in italy we have got a distro eduknoppix 
[11:26] <tinker1976> and they distribute it at school 
[11:27] <tinker1976> but it hasnt as much as edulinux
[11:27] <mhz> tinker1976: that admin MUST be paranoic esp. if he uses XP :) he knows the system will fail
[11:27] <mhz> agree
[11:27] <tinker1976> eheheh ... 
[11:27] <tinker1976> i wanted to show some progs to my students like 
[11:27] <tinker1976> (i dont remember the name)
[11:28] <tinker1976> the program to draw geometric figures
[11:28] <tinker1976> Kfig? 
[11:29] <tinker1976> anyway thanx a lot. I hope to see soon a live distro of edubuntu ... or my sysadmin changed school. See you soon. Bye 
[11:30] <ogra> tinker1976, with the next release we'll have a liveCD too
[11:31] <tinker1976> really , when will it exit?
[11:32] <mhz> april, i guess
[11:33] <tinker1976> what about the support for foreign languages?
[11:33] <mhz> what you mean?
[11:34] <mhz> I am already using edubuntu in spanish and english
[11:34] <ogra> mhz, is it really edubuntu-la, not edubuntu-cl you want ? 
[11:34] <ogra> tinker1976, we support 90 languages already 
[11:35] <mhz> well... of course I'd prefer CL but then i thought I was being selfish ignoring other people needs in LA.
[11:35] <tinker1976> which differences are there beetween Cl and La? 
[11:35] <tinker1976> cleveland or los angeles :-))
[11:35] <ogra> mhz, we wont support mailing lists for continents or continental parts ;) 
[11:35] <ogra> just pick your language or country for the suffix
[11:36] <ogra> so it would be -cl i guess
[11:36] <mhz> tinker1976: cl and la.. not many diff. LA and ES? well, many diff. because they use several (too many) words we do no tuse in Latin amercia
[11:36] <mhz> ogra: okidoki
[11:36] <ogra> would you like to become listmaster ? 
[11:36] <tinker1976> ehehe i'll look for ubuntu-it :-) italian then
[11:37] <mhz> ogra: will that be helpful? won't i be stepping on someone elses responsibilities? if not, then Ok, I have no problems
[11:38] <ogra> mhz, normally it would be me.. but since i have no clue about spanish or any spanish based lang, i couldnt even consider spam from non spam
[11:38] <mhz> hehe
[11:38] <ogra> mhz, are you ubuntu member already ? 
[11:38] <mhz> ok, then i volunteer
[11:39] <mhz> I can apply if you want/need me to. I hadn't mainly because I felt it was for developers (programmers or admins)
[11:40] <ogra> it absolutely isnt !
[11:40] <mhz> lol
[11:40] <ogra> but you need a signed gpg key to sign the code of conduct...
[11:40] <mhz> sorry, that was my first impression the only time i though tabout it
[11:40] <mhz> ogra: sure, gpg, no problem i can manage
[11:41] <ogra> but we have many LoCo team members that only do local support and documentation ... all are members
[11:41] <mhz> ok, I'll start the process immediately
[11:42] <mhz> but first I'll see if i fulfill the requirements
[11:42] <mhz> or that is not necessary?
[11:42] <ogra> make a wikipage that describes you... 
[11:43] <ogra> add all your contributions you made to ubuntu/edubuntu so far ...
[11:43] <ogra> create a launchpad account and sign the code of conduct, the add yourself to the CommunityCouncil Agenda and apply for the launchpad members team...
[11:48] <mhz> oh, it sounds "well thought" and yet simple
[11:50] <ogra> you must attend the meeting and will be considered for member then ... 
[11:50] <ogra> considering that jane and i will speak up for you (you already did a lot of good stuff) it should be fairly easy
[11:54] <mhz> cool, thx for the confidence