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| Riddell | pef_aw: when I compile qtparted the /usr/sbin/qtparted file ends up empty | 12:18 |
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| Riddell | pef_aw: fresh recompile seem to be fine, I think my computer just crashed at the wrong moment | 12:32 |
| Riddell | pef_aw: uploaded | 12:42 |
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| Riddell | pef_aw: new kvpnc uploaded thanks | 03:46 |
| Riddell | seth_k|away: what's the status of kmobiletools? | 03:47 |
| seth_k|away | Riddell, I've been swamped with exams :/ | 03:50 |
| seth_k|away | if someone wants to finish it off it's almost done | 03:50 |
| seth_k|away | otherwise I'll probably finish next weekend | 03:50 |
| seth_k|away | e.g. not tomorrow | 03:50 |
| seth_k|away | but Friday next | 03:50 |
| Riddell | seth_k|away: maybe pef will finish it, he's very up and coming on the MOTU scene :) | 03:51 |
| seth_k|away | ok :) or if he is busy, it will be done next weekend one way or another | 03:53 |
| seth_k|away | methinks there are just minor changes left as per dholbach's comments | 03:53 |
| seth_k|away | What in the world are you still doing up Riddell, it's like 3 am there | 03:54 |
| Riddell | seth_k|away: actualy it's 21:55 here :) | 03:56 |
| Riddell | (but 3am isn't completely unusual for me either) | 03:56 |
| seth_k|away | you're not over in the UK? | 03:57 |
| seth_k|away | ohh, you're over for UBZ? | 03:58 |
| Riddell | yes, montreal | 03:58 |
| seth_k|away | yeah, I had forgotten | 03:58 |
| seth_k|away | okay, food time | 03:58 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: about your post in kde-artist mailing list.. no permission to splash package? | 04:01 |
| Tm_T | I get 403 | 04:01 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: try now | 04:02 |
| Tm_T | thanks | 04:02 |
| Tm_T | use it immediately ;) | 04:03 |
| Tm_T | have to say, very good | 04:03 |
| Tm_T | get some sleep -> | 04:03 |
| Riddell | pef_aw: kzenthing uploaded, control needed s/breezy/dapper/ | 04:13 |
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| Riddell | hi freeflying, get my e-mail? | 04:42 |
| freeflying | Riddle:let me check it | 04:43 |
| freeflying | Riddle:I've told this to minghua ,the maintainer of scim in debian | 04:45 |
| Riddell | freeflying: great | 04:46 |
| Riddell | freeflying: going to fix up skim? | 05:01 |
| freeflying | Riddle: I'm working for it now and soon it will be uploaded | 05:09 |
| Riddell | groovy | 05:12 |
| freeflying | thanks | 05:13 |
| Riddell | give me a ping when it's uploaded | 05:22 |
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| pef_aw | Riddell: thank you, but I leaved breezy for a breezy-updates upload, since the problem is similar in Breezy | 08:00 |
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| _Tonio_ | hi all | 09:37 |
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| JRe | hi _Tonio_ | 09:44 |
| _Tonio_ | hi JRe | 09:46 |
| JRe | _Tonio_: how are you ? | 09:47 |
| _Tonio_ | JRe: fine ;) | 09:50 |
| _Tonio_ | isa server to install....... | 09:50 |
| _Tonio_ | but fine ;) | 09:50 |
| JRe | :) | 09:50 |
| _Tonio_ | JRe: did you saw for standard version in packages ? 3.6.2.1 | 09:51 |
| _Tonio_ | I have to note that | 09:51 |
| _Tonio_ | s/standard/standards | 09:51 |
| Tm_T | I can't install ubuntu to my server pc | 09:51 |
| JRe | _Tonio_: ho no I didn't know | 09:51 |
| Tm_T | installer keep saying there's no ethernet but firewire | 09:52 |
| _Tonio_ | mornfall: Tm_T | 09:52 |
| Tm_T | firewire in pentium 200MHz sure | 09:52 |
| _Tonio_ | morning Tm_T | 09:52 |
| Tm_T | :) | 09:52 |
| _Tonio_ | ^^ still sleeping a bit ;) | 09:52 |
| Tm_T | morning _Tonio_ | 09:52 |
| Tm_T | well, almost no sleep here | 09:53 |
| JRe | I woke up early to give a lesson at the university but it was cancelled :) | 09:53 |
| Tm_T | well, I guess I got 2h sleep | 09:54 |
| _Tonio_ | I woke up too late to be at work and missed my morning meeting ;) | 09:54 |
| Tm_T | :p | 09:54 |
| _Tonio_ | as about always ;) | 09:54 |
| _Tonio_ | Tm_T: I was doing this for month, but from now two weeks, I try to sleep at least 5 hours per night.... | 09:55 |
| _Tonio_ | it is really better during the day ;) | 09:55 |
| Tm_T | yu | 09:56 |
| Tm_T | but sometimes I feel too shit to sleep | 09:56 |
| Tm_T | anyway, trying to hunt some food -> | 09:57 |
| _Tonio_ | JRe: I will package klear toonight | 09:57 |
| JRe | _Tonio_: yep :) | 09:57 |
| _Tonio_ | and maybe kompile if klear goes quick | 09:57 |
| JRe | _Tonio_: i have finished my work on ksystemlog. it's a lot better now | 09:57 |
| _Tonio_ | here is the problem when you build a new package, it can take from 20 minutes to many hours.... | 09:58 |
| _Tonio_ | JRe: fine ;) | 09:58 |
| _Tonio_ | JRe: any ambition to work on systemsettings bugs ? ^_^ | 09:58 |
| JRe | _Tonio_: should be the case soon :) ATM i'm working on my new KFormat | 09:58 |
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| _Tonio_ | s/toolspart/tools part | 09:59 |
| _Tonio_ | JRe: nice | 09:59 |
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| pef | _Tonio_: standards-version should be 3.6.2, not 3.6.2.1 ;) | 12:23 |
| _Tonio_ | pef ? | 12:25 |
| pef | [09:51] <_Tonio_> JRe: did you saw for standard version in packages ? 3.6.2.1 | 12:26 |
| _Tonio_ | pef : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=658 | 12:26 |
| _Tonio_ | look at Riddell 's revu.... | 12:26 |
| pef | _Tonio_: I've asked to a dd, and another MOTU told me not to use last digit | 12:27 |
| _Tonio_ | pef, okay, so we'll have to make it clear ;) | 12:27 |
| _Tonio_ | pef: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=777 | 12:28 |
| _Tonio_ | same here.... | 12:28 |
| pef | _Tonio_: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=803 | 12:28 |
| pef | _Tonio_: look at #ubuntu-motu ;) | 12:29 |
| _Tonio_ | pef: okay, I admit, but then I think all revuers have to decide of a standard | 12:29 |
| pef | _Tonio_: yep | 12:29 |
| pef | Riddell: hello, I think you're wrong when setting Standards-Version to 3.6.2.1, you should'nt use last digit | 12:30 |
| pef | Riddell: allee, dholbach and amny dd in #debian-devel agree to use only 3 digits (3.6.2) | 12:31 |
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| cmvo | Riddell: Hi Jonathan! | 12:45 |
| pef | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kde-i18n/+bug/485 This is fixed by a simple rebuild. Should I upload the rebuilded version to revu, or just add a debdiff ? | 02:34 |
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| jjesse | i'm trying to build nessus thrugh the nessus installer and it is having problems with not findng flex, lex and yacc what package do i need to install for those? | 03:28 |
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| Riddell | good morning all | 03:40 |
| Riddell | pef: add a debdiff and poke me is probably good as any | 03:40 |
| Riddell | jjesse: tried installing flex and bison packages? | 03:40 |
| jjesse | is yacc in one of those packages? | 03:41 |
| Riddell | should be in bison I think | 03:42 |
| Riddell | it is a pune or play on words | 03:42 |
| jjesse | oh | 03:43 |
| Riddell | pef: that kde-i18n-se beastie is invalid | 03:48 |
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| Riddell | Mez! | 03:58 |
| Mez | Riddell!!! | 03:59 |
| Mez | hows things? | 04:00 |
| Riddell | tres bien | 04:00 |
| Mez | good good | 04:00 |
| Mez | when you flying to montreal btw? | 04:00 |
| Riddell | although the swimming pool is just too short to get a proper swim in | 04:00 |
| Riddell | last wednesday :) | 04:00 |
| Mez | oh | 04:00 |
| Mez | ok | 04:00 |
| Mez | lol | 04:01 |
| Mez | how is it? | 04:07 |
| Riddell | between the quebecois and the chinese it's quite cultural | 04:08 |
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| cmvo | Riddell: Hi Jonathan! | 04:09 |
| Mez | cold? | 04:09 |
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| Riddell | hi cmvo baby | 04:10 |
| cmvo | I think I found something (or it :-) in case of the admin problem: | 04:12 |
| cmvo | kdesu_stub gets passed "KDESYCOCA=/tmp/kde-user/ksycoca" in the environment by | 04:12 |
| cmvo | kdesu. | 04:12 |
| cmvo | /tmp/kde-user/ksycoca is a symlink to /var/tmp/kdecache-user/ksycoca | 04:13 |
| cmvo | This symlink does not exist after a reboot, but gets created by kbuildsycoca. | 04:13 |
| cmvo | When the symlink is created admin mode works, when it is delete it does not. | 04:14 |
| Riddell | cmvo: wow | 04:21 |
| cmvo | When kded later detects a change in software (I don't know what kded is watching in detail) it runs kbuildsycoca which also creates the link. | 04:23 |
| Riddell | so get kdesu to create that link and we're sorted | 04:23 |
| cmvo | This could be an explanation why the problem is so erratic. Anytime kded runs kbuildsycoca admin mode begins to work until the next reboot. | 04:24 |
| Riddell | makes me wonder what deletes that symlink | 04:25 |
| Riddell | but it does sound like the sort of thing that could get deleted by various things which is why other distros would have occational problems too | 04:25 |
| cmvo | Isn't /tmp cleaned on any reboot? | 04:26 |
| Riddell | hmm, not sure | 04:27 |
| Riddell | but if it was then how come it works most of the time | 04:27 |
| cmvo | Its cleaned in /etc/init.d/bootclean.sh after $TMPTIME days. TMPTIME is 0 int /etc/default/rcS. | 04:28 |
| cmvo | s/int/in/ | 04:29 |
| Riddell | you're ahead of me :) | 04:29 |
| Riddell | I guess it works after reboot if there's been a good reason to run kbuildsycoca | 04:29 |
| Riddell | which explains why a fresh install or new user is fine since they will have had kbuildsycoca run | 04:30 |
| cmvo | Just searched to /tmp in init.d :-) | 04:30 |
| cmvo | s/to/for/ (I type too fast) | 04:31 |
| cmvo | Also kded runs kbuildsycoca when it delects new kde programs. Then admin mode also works until the next reboot. | 04:32 |
| cmvo | But I don't think it should be kdesu to create the link. Maybe kded is the better place. | 04:33 |
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| cmvo | As a bandaid fix add: | 04:34 |
| cmvo | [General] | 04:34 |
| cmvo | CheckFileStamps=false | 04:34 |
| cmvo | to .kde/share/config/kdedrc then kbuildsycoca is run on every reboot. | 04:35 |
| cmvo | I don't know if /tmp/kde-user is a historic place for ksycoca. Maybe kdesu shouldn't pass it on in the first place. kdesu uses locateLocal() to create the tmp path. And this | 04:48 |
| cmvo | function disappears in the depth of KDE. Maybe it just searches /tmp before /var/tmp. | 04:49 |
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| pef | arg | 04:53 |
| pef | someone knows ho to find all bugs assigned to Kubuntu team in Malone ? | 04:54 |
| JRe | pef: yes go to kubuntu-team page | 05:00 |
| JRe | pef: and click on the bugs menu entry (top of the page) | 05:00 |
| JRe | pef: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+assignedbugs | 05:01 |
| pef | JRe: thank you :) | 05:02 |
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| JRe | Riddell: if I make a patch to fix layout problems of systemsettings, is there any chance that it will be integrated into breezy-updates ? | 05:21 |
| Riddell | JRe: unlikely but it would be very welcome for dapper and kde 3.5 | 05:25 |
| Riddell | and it could go in breezy-backports if you ask mez | 05:25 |
| JRe | Riddell: ok I'll try to fix it | 05:26 |
| Riddell | cmvo: do you think that if we just patch kdesu to pass KDESYCOCA=/var/tmp/kdecache-user/ksycoca that would fix it? | 05:29 |
| cmvo | I've looked through kded.cpp maybe just changing the first parameter of locateLocal() from "tmp" to "cache" could fix it too. | 05:36 |
| cmvo | I just give it a try and look and see what parameter gets passed to kdesu_stub | 05:36 |
| cmvo | s/and see// | 05:37 |
| Riddell | _Tonio_: are you a motu? | 05:42 |
| _Tonio_ | Riddell: no not yet ;) | 05:47 |
| _Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm even not a member at the moment | 05:47 |
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| Riddell | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/ktranslator/0.3-0ubuntu1/ compiled | 05:48 |
| Riddell | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/kinstaller/0.2-0ubuntu1/ compiled | 05:49 |
| Riddell | _Tonio_: are you on amd64? | 05:49 |
| _Tonio_ | no.... jre is | 05:49 |
| _Tonio_ | maybe he could try a pbuilder and tell us what about | 05:49 |
| Riddell | _Tonio_: then your pbuilder should be able to compile | 05:49 |
| _Tonio_ | yep | 05:49 |
| JRe | yes I do may I test these packages _Tonio_ ? | 05:49 |
| _Tonio_ | I'll test toonight | 05:50 |
| Riddell | amd64 is failing on evething | 05:50 |
| Riddell | I assume it's not KDE's fault | 05:50 |
| _Tonio_ | JRe: you may find the sources on our repo.... same sources except a patch on the .desktop file | 05:50 |
| JRe | _Tonio_: k | 05:50 |
| _Tonio_ | Riddell: if it works, I will start uploads this weekend.... | 05:51 |
| _Tonio_ | I have plenty of packages to upload :) | 05:51 |
| Riddell | _Tonio_: uploads to revu? | 05:51 |
| _Tonio_ | Riddell: yes | 05:51 |
| _Tonio_ | about 12 packages I think, something like that | 05:52 |
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| cmvo | Riddell: kdebase build still grinding along... | 06:16 |
| Riddell | I know that feeling | 06:17 |
| JRe | libreadline5: Depends: readline-common but it is not installed | 06:17 |
| Riddell | although you should be able to just cd obj-<tab>; cd kdesu; make; make install | 06:17 |
| JRe | (while running pbuilder create on amd64, dapper distrib) | 06:18 |
| JRe | Riddell: arg dapper debootstrap seem broken | 06:22 |
| cmvo | Riddell: cd obj... But only after the first build? (I still have a lot to learn about debs...) | 06:23 |
| Riddell | JRe: what's broken about it? | 06:24 |
| JRe | Riddell: does yours try to installreadline-common ? | 06:24 |
| Riddell | cmvo: run debuild until ./configure is done then you should be able to do that | 06:25 |
| JRe | Riddell: when I am trying to create the base.tgz it mess with libreadline5 | 06:25 |
| Riddell | cmvo: packages get built in obj-xx directory rather than in the source directory, keeps things tidy | 06:25 |
| Riddell | JRe: that's an amd64 problem, it's why nothing is compiling on amd64 | 06:25 |
| Riddell | JRe: tried making an i386 pbuilder? | 06:26 |
| JRe | Riddell: nop but I'm going to do that ;) | 06:26 |
| cmvo | Riddell: Is there a shortcut to create obj and the makefiles without a complete build? I tried ./configure, but should habe used the configure parameters from debian/rules. | 06:33 |
| Riddell | cmvo: run debuild | 06:35 |
| Riddell | once it gets to the compiling start stop it with control-c | 06:35 |
| Riddell | cd obj-<tab>; cd wherever; make | 06:35 |
| JRe | can it be noe with fakeroot debian/rules binary ? | 06:35 |
| JRe | ha no you need a partial rebuild | 06:36 |
| Riddell | debuild -nc will carry on the compile without cleaning it first | 06:36 |
| cmvo | Change kdesu.cpp line 300 to: QCString ksycoca = "KDESYCOCA="+QFile::encodeName(locateLocal("cache", "ksycoca")); and kdesu passes /var/tmp/kdecache... to kdesu_stub (at least here :-) | 06:48 |
| Riddell | cmvo: rocking | 06:48 |
| Riddell | can you make a debdiff? | 06:48 |
| cmvo | try to :-) | 06:49 |
| cmvo | Riddell: What do you need, a debdiff of the source packages? | 06:58 |
| Riddell | cmvo: yes please | 07:01 |
| Riddell | debdiff foo-old.dsc foo-new.dsc | 07:01 |
| cmvo | Ok, it'll take a bit, have finish the build, to get the new dsc. Do I need to change the version in changelog to get a differently named file or just move the original source files out of the way so they don't get overwritten? | 07:05 |
| cmvo | Riddell: Do I need to change the version in changelog to get differently named files or just move the original source files out of the way so they don't get overwritten? | 07:18 |
| \sh | Riddell: how is the weather in montreal? | 07:26 |
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| cmvo | \sh: It seems to be 5C and overcast :-) | 07:46 |
| _jpetso | ...ok, now for the newlyswitched ones | 07:47 |
| _jpetso | i'm trying to compile some autotools stuff that I had compiling on Gentoo before, and it doesn't work yet in Ubuntu | 07:47 |
| _jpetso | it says (extract): | 07:48 |
| _jpetso | configure.in: 8: automake requires `AM_PROG_LEX', not `AC_PROG_LEX' | 07:48 |
| _jpetso | automake: examples/fact/Makefile.am: lex source seen but `AC_DECL_YYTEXT' not in `configure.in' | 07:48 |
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| jpetso | ...I hope no one has said something important? seems like I'm getting disconnected regularly... (which also wasn't the case in Gentoo, but hey) | 07:52 |
| \sh | jpetso: what did u try to compile and why? | 08:05 |
| jpetso | kdevelop-pg, the new parser generator for KDevelop, because I'm writing a grammar for it | 08:05 |
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| \sh | jpetso: and how do you compile? looks like u have a wrong version auf autotools stuff | 08:07 |
| jpetso | I've got the breezy standard stuff | 08:07 |
| jpetso | \sh: ...and just tried installing automake1.9 additionally, don't help so far | 08:08 |
| jpetso | \sh: except automake --version still says 1.4 | 08:08 |
| \sh | jpetso: so u called aclocal-1.9 \n automake-1.9? | 08:08 |
| jpetso | \sh: I didn't, what does that do? | 08:09 |
| \sh | jpetso: the default version "aclocal/automake" is 1.4 | 08:10 |
| jpetso | yup | 08:10 |
| \sh | jpetso: to call 1.9 version u have to call aclocal-1.9 and automake-1.9 | 08:10 |
| Riddell | cmvo: dch -i to add a new changelog entry | 08:10 |
| jpetso | ok, seems logical | 08:10 |
| Riddell | \sh: slightly nippy but not freezing | 08:10 |
| jpetso | \sh: done, but automake --version still says 1.4 | 08:11 |
| \sh | jpetso: yes...because it's 1.4 and not 1.9 | 08:11 |
| \sh | Riddell: ok..good to have warm clothes with me | 08:12 |
| jpetso | \sh: ok...so how do I get 1.9 to be used by make -f Makefile.cvs | 08:12 |
| Riddell | jpetso: remove automake, install automake1.9 | 08:12 |
| Riddell | /usr/bin/automake just points to alternatives | 08:12 |
| jpetso | Riddell: remove like rm, or like in Adept? | 08:13 |
| \sh | jpetso: rm like rm ;) | 08:13 |
| Riddell | jpetso: adept :) | 08:13 |
| jpetso | ok... | 08:13 |
| Riddell | don't listen to \sh | 08:13 |
| \sh | lol | 08:13 |
| Riddell | especially when he tells you to rm -rf / | 08:13 |
| \sh | *grmpf* i never tell such stupid things | 08:13 |
| \sh | well...anyways...it's actually the wrong way | 08:14 |
| \sh | the right way is debootstrap a breezy or better dapper | 08:14 |
| \sh | and compile there | 08:14 |
| \sh | and create a real .deb package | 08:14 |
| jpetso | \sh: if I knew now what debootstrapping means, maybe | 08:14 |
| \sh | jpetso: everything to learn is on wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources ... there is a link to Debootstrap | 08:15 |
| Riddell | jpetso: ubw:DebootstrapChroot | 08:15 |
| jpetso | thanks | 08:15 |
| \sh | jpetso: just like installing gentoo from the installer iso with a clean HD | 08:15 |
| \sh | but much easier | 08:15 |
| \sh | jpetso: ubw: works only in konqueror... | 08:16 |
| jpetso | \sh: i knew that, i even knew i had replaced smth:bla with smth bla | 08:16 |
| \sh | need to find a way to implement this in ff, too | 08:16 |
| jpetso | Riddell, \sh: so cool, it worked! | 08:20 |
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| cmvo | Riddell: Got to go. The build is still running, tried to continue it, but --nc implies -b, which means no source. So the diff has to wait till tomorrow. Cu! | 09:04 |
| Riddell | \sh_away: can you see Edit Emblem on https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team ? | 09:46 |
| Riddell | might be on one of the subpages | 09:47 |
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| lamont | Riddell: Build-Depends: ..., g++-3.4 [ | 10:23 |
| lamont | arm m68k hppa] | 10:23 |
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| Riddell | lamont: what's the problem? | 10:28 |
| lamont | lack of build-depends kinda makes gcc-3.4 unusable... | 10:30 |
| lamont | see http://buildd.mmjgroup.com/buildLogs/k/kdenetwork/4\:3.4.3-0ubuntu1/kdenetwork_4\:3.4.3-0ubuntu1_20051028-1307-hppa-failed.gz | 10:30 |
| lamont | well, without the \ chars... | 10:30 |
| lamont | http://buildd.mmjgroup.com/buildLogs/k/kdenetwork/4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1/kdenetwork_4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1_20051028-1307-hppa-failed.gz | 10:31 |
| lamont | I uploaded a -0ubuntu2 with the build-dep above | 10:31 |
| Riddell | ah, oops, sorry | 10:35 |
| lamont | np | 10:35 |
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