| schweeb | before hoary release, sometime | 12:02 |
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| dredg | same as me then :) | 12:03 |
| dredg | but i hit launchpad a while back and uploaded the signed coc, ssh keys and some other stuff | 12:03 |
| dredg | which reminds me, the wiki and launchpad thinks there's a few of me. i need to get them merged | 12:03 |
| schweeb | yea, that's cause they did a bunch of auto-imports | 12:09 |
| schweeb | from diff sources | 12:09 |
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| tigger^ | schweeb: let me guess. it was in a safe place? | 12:37 |
| tigger^ | :) | 12:37 |
| schweeb | yea, in my old laptop, sitting on my shelf in under my TV | 12:38 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 12:39 |
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| schweeb | there, got it to at least say I'm a ubuntite :P | 12:41 |
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| schweeb | malone's the main universe bug tracker now, right? | 12:44 |
| Nafallo | not main, but universe yes :-) | 12:45 |
| schweeb | you know damn well what I meant :P | 12:46 |
| Nafallo | no, you got me confused :-) | 12:47 |
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| Nafallo | schweeb: an admin :-) | 12:51 |
| schweeb | kamion, mako, and elmo all haven't been active for a while on IRC, so... | 12:52 |
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| schweeb | hey ogra | 12:53 |
| ogra | ho schweeb | 12:53 |
| Nafallo | ogra: ! :-) | 12:53 |
| schweeb | hrm, how does one view only universe bugs in malone | 12:54 |
| schweeb | ogra: I'm settin off to do some work now!!! | 12:54 |
| ogra | cool ! | 12:54 |
| Nafallo | ogra: I think hughsie might want you in -devel :-) | 12:55 |
| Nafallo | atleast earlier. | 12:56 |
| schweeb | is there even a way to view ONLY universe bugs in malone? | 01:00 |
| schweeb | or should I search for ones assigned to MOTU? | 01:00 |
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| ogra | Nafallo, i already told him, i'm out of time | 01:03 |
| ogra | but thanks for reminding | 01:04 |
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| schweeb | RequestExpired | 01:04 |
| schweeb | A server error occurred. | 01:04 |
| schweeb | arrrrrghhhh | 01:04 |
| Nafallo | ogra: oki | 01:05 |
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| Cashel | just a quick heads up, it seems the gnome-btdownload package is bugy/broken ... version 0.0.22 on the authors site isnt... might wanna update it.... | 01:42 |
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| Nafallo | Cashel: thanx for the heads up. I'll prepare a debdiff and send it to some random main-dude :-) | 01:53 |
| marcin | hi ppl | 01:58 |
| marcin | I want to create package that contains rnc files (Relax NG Schemas) | 01:59 |
| marcin | and I what path shoud I use to install these schemas... | 01:59 |
| marcin | there is /usr/share/sgml and /usr/share/xml but rnc schemas aren't smgl and also not xml... | 02:00 |
| marcin | any suggestions? | 02:00 |
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| Cashel | Nafallo: np :) | 02:14 |
| Nafallo | Cashel: main-devels applied lots of changes, so I gave it to them through a bug :-) | 02:15 |
| Cashel | yeah, I've been scratching my head a bit since the 13th, heh | 02:15 |
| Cashel | you guys will probably hate me, but outside of synaptic I dont see any difference in breezy... someone in #ubuntu was saying how much different gnome 2.12 looked... I dont see any different except for the available panel add-ons, heh.. | 02:16 |
| dereks | anyone here program with gtk-sharp? | 02:16 |
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| marcin | Cashel: you are right | 02:21 |
| marcin | Cashel: you have to look very carefully to find out the difference | 02:21 |
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| marcin | Cashel: propably this http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/ article could help you | 02:23 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 02:23 |
| Cashel | marcin thanks :P | 02:27 |
| marcin | Cashel: ;> | 02:28 |
| Cashel | any of you folks use qemu / vmware , etc? | 02:31 |
| Cashel | wondering is vmware is any fast... win 2k3 under qemu is mind numbingly slow... | 02:31 |
| Cashel | s/fast/faster/ | 02:31 |
| schweeb | vmware is decently fast | 02:32 |
| marcin | Cashel: ubuntu-motu folks use ubuntu software not win 2k3 ;) | 02:32 |
| schweeb | heh | 02:32 |
| schweeb | dereks: I have a little bit | 02:32 |
| marcin | ehhhhh I think that I need to decide myself | 02:33 |
| marcin | but anyway - is /usr/share/xml/rnc a good path for rnc schemas? | 02:33 |
| dereks | schweeb: how come i can't get the gtk.filechooserbutton to work | 02:41 |
| dereks | are we going to get gtk-sharp 2.6 added anytime soon? | 02:44 |
| dereks | in dapper | 02:45 |
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| Kyral | hmm | 03:18 |
| Kyral | Hows this for an experiment | 03:18 |
| Kyral | I take the debs for Mezzo, Metatheme, and Orchestra and try to install them :D | 03:18 |
| tseng | metatheme is still useful? | 03:20 |
| Kyral | I guess so | 03:20 |
| tseng | its sort of built into gnome these days | 03:20 |
| Kyral | Orchestra depends on it | 03:20 |
| tseng | since 2.6 or something | 03:20 |
| tseng | orchewhat? | 03:20 |
| Kyral | Its a part of SymphonyOS | 03:20 |
| tseng | sigh | 03:20 |
| Nafallo | dapper doesn't work as a pbuilder atm? | 03:21 |
| crimsun | no | 03:21 |
| Nafallo | *sigh* | 03:22 |
| crimsun | well, it actually depends what your b-ds are | 03:22 |
| Nafallo | debhelper ;-) | 03:22 |
| crimsun | yeah, it'll be fixed/built soon | 03:22 |
| Nafallo | cdbs? :-) | 03:22 |
| Nafallo | I hope things work after the damn debhelper :-) | 03:23 |
| Nafallo | would be fun to have gcc and family at some point also ;-) | 03:23 |
| crimsun | well a metric assload has been thrown at the buildds in addition to the sid sync, so slowness is expected | 03:24 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 03:24 |
| Nafallo | they are still not finished? :-) | 03:25 |
| crimsun | gcc-4.0 is finished on three arches | 03:26 |
| crimsun | failed pretty hard on amd64 | 03:26 |
| Nafallo | baah. don't count ia64 ;-) | 03:26 |
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| Kyral | Well, it worked, but not well | 03:27 |
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| tseng | wow, even I beat you | 03:29 |
| crimsun | Nafallo: nice :-) | 03:29 |
| tseng | and I dont do anything | 03:29 |
| Kyral | Okay, how do I kill the panel at the top of XFCE? | 03:30 |
| Kyral | the taskbar ;P | 03:30 |
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| tseng | you can only hide it afaik | 03:30 |
| Nafallo | dbus -> libdbus ;-) | 03:30 |
| tseng | so ive been told | 03:30 |
| Kyral | or kill it ;P | 03:31 |
| Kyral | just pop open system monitor and BAM! ;P | 03:31 |
| tseng | sigh | 03:31 |
| tseng | thats not very persistant | 03:31 |
| Kyral | It is when I save the session | 03:32 |
| tseng | oh! | 03:32 |
| Kyral | where does XFCE keep its config files in ~/ anyway? | 03:32 |
| tseng | tried .config/ ? | 03:32 |
| crimsun | ~/.config | 03:32 |
| tseng | dont fret | 03:32 |
| tseng | freedesktop will tell you where to put your files | 03:32 |
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| tseng | here is a good mental note for you all | 03:36 |
| tseng | dont start a window manager from the console and then ^Z it | 03:36 |
| tseng | you'll be sorry | 03:36 |
| Kyral | lol | 03:36 |
| Kyral | Yah I like the iconbox better than the taskbar :D | 03:36 |
| tseng | (openbox --replace &) == better | 03:36 |
| tseng | iconbox rocks | 03:36 |
| tseng | you dont see all the open crap | 03:37 |
| Kyral | Hmm, Rox-Filer or XFFM? | 03:37 |
| tseng | Thunar | 03:37 |
| Kyral | Do they have a Deb for it yet? | 03:37 |
| crimsun | yes, it's at os-works | 03:37 |
| crimsun | don't use it yet | 03:38 |
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| crimsun | jani and I haven't merged it properly yet | 03:38 |
| Kyral | Crimsun, I just "hijacked" Mezzo from SymphonyOS into Ubuntu | 03:38 |
| crimsun | (although several people actually do use it with breezy apparently) | 03:38 |
| Kyral | I think I can handle a nonstandard package or two ;P | 03:40 |
| tseng | i hate both rox-file and xffm | 03:40 |
| Kyral | mmm, drop shadows... | 03:41 |
| Kyral | Transparency... | 03:41 |
| crimsun | I like rox-filer, but xffm has got to go | 03:41 |
| Kyral | and with both of those active its STILL faster than GNOME + MetaCity | 03:41 |
| crimsun | thunar rules them both despite its infancy | 03:41 |
| Kyral | then can I install it? | 03:42 |
| tseng | NOPE | 03:42 |
| crimsun | you're free to do whatever you want, Kyral | 03:42 |
| Kyral | I'm impulsive and bored. I installed Mezzo successfully on Ubuntu | 03:42 |
| Kyral | Anyone know what font the titlebar is using in this pic? http://www.xfce-look.org/content/pre1/23060-1.png | 03:44 |
| crimsun | download the theme and look at the file | 03:45 |
| Kyral | good point... | 03:45 |
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| Kyral | Got it nm :P | 03:46 |
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| Kyral | so can anyone reccommend a good terminal emulator that isn't GNOME Term? | 03:51 |
| crimsun | xterminal | 03:51 |
| crimsun | there are a bunch, though | 03:52 |
| crimsun | rxvt-unicode, mlterm, etc. | 03:52 |
| Kyral | What about XFCE4-Terminal? | 03:52 |
| Nafallo | apt-cache search quake :-) | 03:52 |
| crimsun | I think you need to read xterminal's description. | 03:52 |
| Kyral | lol | 03:52 |
| Kyral | xterminal removes xfce4-terminal | 03:52 |
| crimsun | we'll kill one or the other | 03:53 |
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| Kyral | Now if I could just find out why the panel disappears randomly... | 04:01 |
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| Riddell | how do I find the current debian standards version again? | 04:17 |
| crimsun | packages.debian.org/debian-policy | 04:21 |
| crimsun | (3.6.2.1) | 04:21 |
| Riddell | crimsun: ah, thanks | 04:28 |
| crimsun | np | 04:28 |
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| hub | there is no libiberty in Ubuntu? | 05:42 |
| YokoZar | Ok, winesetuptk is still in universe | 05:43 |
| YokoZar | I thought I sent an email asking for this to be removed a long time ago | 05:44 |
| YokoZar | All it does is break stuff now | 05:44 |
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| YokoZar | Who can remove stuff from universe? | 05:45 |
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| Kyral | remove....why remove... | 05:46 |
| YokoZar | Let's put it this way: all the package does is break wine configurations and confuse users. It doesn't setup anything anymore. | 05:49 |
| YokoZar | It was obsoleted like 2 years ago. | 05:49 |
| Kyral | ?????? | 05:49 |
| YokoZar | Oh, I'm talking about package winesetuptk | 05:49 |
| YokoZar | Didn't notice you just came in | 05:49 |
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| Kyral | I think you need to file a bug | 05:50 |
| Riddell | YokoZar: elmo can remove (move to morgue) packages | 05:56 |
| YokoZar | Riddell: thanks | 05:56 |
| Riddell | I'm not sure if there's a list somewhere of packages to be morgued | 05:57 |
| Kyral | mmm | 05:57 |
| Kyral | New kernel!! | 05:57 |
| YokoZar | We had a wiki page at one point | 05:57 |
| YokoZar | And I thought winesetuptk was there... | 05:57 |
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| hew | exit | 07:22 |
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| zyga | hello | 08:10 |
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| _Tonio_ | morning | 09:37 |
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| thesaltydog | what are these errors I got in pbuilder: warning: no utmp entry available and LOGNAME not defined; using uid of process (0) ??? | 10:37 |
| siretart | morning folks! | 10:47 |
| siretart | thesaltydog: I ignore them, they don't matter that much | 10:47 |
| zyga | morning siretart | 10:47 |
| siretart | hi zyga | 10:47 |
| === zyga needs to fix hotplug scripts borking on scanner | ||
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| StrikeForce | anyone on? | 10:50 |
| === Mortas_ looks around | ||
| Mortas_ | yep | 10:51 |
| StrikeForce | I'm still having issues with dbus since I"ve upgraded to breezy | 10:51 |
| StrikeForce | and I haven't found any bugs in bugzilla | 10:51 |
| StrikeForce | on shutdown I'm getting an error saying it can't find hald.pid | 10:52 |
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| StrikeForce | its hard writing all the info down on shutdown :( | 10:52 |
| StrikeForce | its under the /etc/dbus and one of the files there on line 49 its calling to kill hald which is fine however its not finding it on my system | 10:53 |
| Mortas | if you manually try to stop the service instead of shutting down you might get the same error with a bit of luck | 10:53 |
| StrikeForce | yeah I used to | 10:53 |
| Mortas | so you can paste it in a bug report | 10:53 |
| StrikeForce | but I dont' anymore | 10:53 |
| Mortas | ah ok | 10:53 |
| thesaltydog | siretart, yes, but they really get me confused as they can hidden other important warnings... | 10:53 |
| StrikeForce | I just tried a dpkg-reconfigure on both hal as well as dbus | 10:53 |
| StrikeForce | but that didn't fix it :( | 10:54 |
| Mortas | well I can't really help you with this because I don't have a breezy release box anymore, could you file a bug with as much info as you have? | 10:55 |
| StrikeForce | yeah I'm just reading the 20hal script | 10:56 |
| StrikeForce | and its showing the right location of hte pid? | 10:56 |
| StrikeForce | this is what has got be confused | 10:56 |
| siretart | thesaltydog: the error comes from dpkg-buildpackage, it doesn't find the userid as expected from the host system in your chroot | 10:56 |
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| thesaltydog | siretart, that was what I suspected.. Some more words on the pbuilderHowTo would be greatly appreciated..:-) | 10:57 |
| StrikeForce | is this correct kill -9 $(< $PIDFILE) || true | 10:58 |
| siretart | thesaltydog: just add them, someone with more clue will correct it when something gets wrong or confusing | 10:58 |
| StrikeForce | its coming up with a possible error under vi? | 10:58 |
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| dholbach | "morning" | 11:03 |
| StrikeForce | dholbach, morning | 11:03 |
| dholbach | hi StrikeForce | 11:03 |
| StrikeForce | can someone on a breezy box tell me what dbus files they have under /etc/default? | 11:03 |
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| StrikeForce | who takes care of dbus? | 11:14 |
| siretart | hi dholbach! | 11:14 |
| dholbach | hey siretart | 11:14 |
| dholbach | StrikeForce: pitti and daniels, i guess | 11:15 |
| StrikeForce | ahh k | 11:15 |
| StrikeForce | I've got a few questions just wondering whether its my system or if its a bug | 11:15 |
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| spayne | mornin' all | 11:19 |
| spayne | has anyone managed to get a dapper pbuilder workign? | 11:19 |
| Mortas | I got a dapper running, but haven't tried pbuilder yet | 11:19 |
| spayne | \sh: have you managed to get a dapper pbuilder running? | 11:20 |
| \sh | moins | 11:20 |
| \sh | spayne: yes...create a breezy one and update to dapper ;) | 11:21 |
| spayne | \sh: just when i try and create a dapper one, it fails | 11:21 |
| spayne | E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/dapper | 11:21 |
| \sh | spayne: well...could be that the debootstrap script is not in place | 11:21 |
| Mortas | get a new debootstrap first | 11:21 |
| \sh | spayne: yes... | 11:21 |
| \sh | u should download the new debootstrap from dapper and install it by hand | 11:22 |
| \sh | I think kamion fixed it the last days | 11:22 |
| spayne | \sh: now that's good thinking :) | 11:22 |
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| \sh | spayne: but the easiest way...create breezy one, and update pbuilder to dapper ;) | 11:22 |
| selinium | Hi spayne :) | 11:22 |
| Mortas | wouldn't apt-get -t dapper install debootstrap work? | 11:22 |
| \sh | should work, yes | 11:23 |
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| spayne | i'm just not running dapper on this machine yet | 11:23 |
| spayne | = main laptop | 11:23 |
| Mortas | for people like me who are to lazy to search for a package on an archive :) | 11:23 |
| spayne | = want to see how Dapper pans out :) | 11:23 |
| Mortas | got my wrecking box here set up with dapper, no issues yet | 11:23 |
| Mortas | sadly enough | 11:24 |
| Mortas | break something already, I wanna fix stuff :) | 11:24 |
| dholbach | i guess the buildlogs have enough broken stuff :) | 11:24 |
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| Mortas | dholbach: see previously mentioned point of lack of docs about that on wiki :) | 11:25 |
| highvoltage | siretart: your nick always reminds me of a prodigy song. | 11:25 |
| Mortas | or at least I haven't been able to find a starting spot for fixing dapper breakage | 11:25 |
| siretart | highvoltage: yeah? which one? | 11:25 |
| siretart | update successful | 11:25 |
| highvoltage | siretart: firestarter | 11:26 |
| dholbach | Mortas: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html | 11:26 |
| spayne | \sh: you are my hero | 11:26 |
| Mortas | dholbach: yay :) | 11:27 |
| Mortas | now where did you find that? | 11:27 |
| === \sh is just p*ssed... | ||
| Mortas | I hate asking questions | 11:27 |
| \sh | someone not right in his head enabled my office phone divertion to my mobile. | 11:27 |
| siretart | highvoltage: great song :) | 11:27 |
| \sh | since this morning I got 5 phonecalls | 11:27 |
| spayne | \sh, i take it your at Montreal? | 11:28 |
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| \sh | now I will go to the office and kick someones ass ;) | 11:28 |
| \sh | spayne: yes | 11:28 |
| spayne | \sh, how is it? | 11:28 |
| \sh | spayne: oh no...I'm flying tomorrow | 11:28 |
| \sh | spayne: ogra is already there | 11:28 |
| siretart | ok, lunch | 11:33 |
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| \sh | or better bbl | 11:36 |
| Mortas | hmm loads of ppc breakage | 11:39 |
| Mortas | time to give that ibook a use | 11:40 |
| StrikeForce | is there a need to purge pbuilder's cache before upgrading to dapper or will that automagically get done | 11:40 |
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| drbyte | so, out of curiosity, how does one get "involved" with the ubuntu project? | 12:08 |
| StrikeForce | drbyte, nag people :( although I'm not involved so I'm not sure whether I can offer any constructive advice | 12:10 |
| drbyte | StrikeForce: heh. right. | 12:10 |
| dholbach | drbyte: depends on what you want to do... | 12:11 |
| drbyte | dholbach: hi there. you may remember me ;-) | 12:11 |
| dholbach | drbyte: if you want to be a package maintainer, then #ubuntu-motu is just the right place :) | 12:11 |
| siretart | drbyte: try to do some work. If you see something that could be improved, suggest improvments. There are a lot of areas which could need improvement, I think | 12:13 |
| siretart | our wiki pages made big progess | 12:13 |
| StrikeForce | anyone know if browser-bookmarks-menu is getting worked on? | 12:16 |
| StrikeForce | I've just about finished it | 12:16 |
| StrikeForce | if a required package is python-gnome2 do I need to add gnome to it if python-gnome2 has a dependancy of gnome? | 12:18 |
| StrikeForce | lol hope that makes sense | 12:18 |
| Mortas | that will be fixed by the dependencies python-gnome2 has | 12:22 |
| StrikeForce | yeah thats right | 12:22 |
| StrikeForce | I'm just questioning whether it needs to be added or not | 12:22 |
| Mortas | thankfully not, otherwise you'd need to add xorg and everything gnome depends on as well :) | 12:22 |
| Mortas | that's the whole idea of the dependency system | 12:23 |
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| StrikeForce | yeah I know just making sure | 12:23 |
| StrikeForce | cause I"ve seen some big dependancy chains | 12:23 |
| Mortas | build it in a clean pbuilder environment, it will shout if it misses stuff | 12:23 |
| StrikeForce | yeah I have | 12:23 |
| StrikeForce | the building isn't the issue | 12:23 |
| StrikeForce | the running of it is | 12:23 |
| StrikeForce | its only 1 python file | 12:24 |
| StrikeForce | and a config file | 12:24 |
| Mortas | ah runtime depends | 12:24 |
| StrikeForce | yep | 12:24 |
| Mortas | you should be able to use 'pbuilder login' to get in the chroot, install the package and see if it grabs everything you need to run it | 12:24 |
| StrikeForce | I've tested it in breezy and it works fine | 12:26 |
| Mortas | well in that case you should put it on revu I guess | 12:27 |
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| pef | someone can confime that Standards-Version should be set to 3.6.2 instead of 3.6.2.1 ? | 12:28 |
| StrikeForce | can't atm unmet deps Mortas | 12:28 |
| StrikeForce | although if someone wants to revu it | 12:28 |
| StrikeForce | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=830 | 12:28 |
| StrikeForce | :) | 12:29 |
| dholbach | pef: 3.6.2 is fine, only the first 3 digits matter | 12:29 |
| StrikeForce | and rufus has been there since breezy froze :( | 12:29 |
| dholbach | pef: the last one is just for typos and the like | 12:29 |
| StrikeForce | hopefully someone have another look at it | 12:29 |
| dholbach | pef: dpkg -l debian-policy | 12:29 |
| pef | dholbach: I just wanted a confirmation, thanks ! | 12:29 |
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| Mortas | StrikeForce: I'll give it a try once I get this ppc box running | 12:30 |
| dholbach | de rien | 12:30 |
| StrikeForce | Mortas: thanks | 12:30 |
| StrikeForce | Mortas, there are unmet deps in dapper obviously so pbuilder builds fine but installing it I can't install the unmet deps | 12:30 |
| _Tonio_ | dholbach: i've been asked for putting 3.6.2.1, that's why we wanted the information with pef | 12:31 |
| _Tonio_ | just to be sure all revuers are waiting for the same thing | 12:31 |
| dholbach | 3.6.2.1 is not incorrect, but simply not necessary | 12:31 |
| dholbach | (that's what i've been told half a year ago ;))) | 12:32 |
| _Tonio_ | dholbach: okay. | 12:32 |
| slomo | the last digit is only for cosmetical changes | 12:32 |
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| StrikeForce | dholbach: do you know if I'm allowed to edit the universe candidates page to advise that one package is in REVU? | 12:34 |
| StrikeForce | dholbach: never mind I've just finished editiing it and its worked :) | 12:35 |
| dholbach | StrikeForce: sure, thanks for taking care | 12:35 |
| slomo | is someone of you using mc (midnight commander)? | 12:36 |
| slomo | i uploaded a version with utf8 support some minutes ago... would be nice if you can tell me if it works for you too :) | 12:36 |
| dholbach | slomo: every 2 months :) | 12:36 |
| dholbach | but i can give it a spin, once it's there | 12:37 |
| pef | SloMo: hello, do you know "mc-light" ? | 12:37 |
| slomo | pef: no... what's that? | 12:37 |
| slomo | give me url,etc please ;) | 12:37 |
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| Yagisan | slomo: I use mc and utf-8 | 12:38 |
| Yagisan | slomo: * and need | 12:38 |
| slomo | Yagisan: perfect :) you can probably use the dapper package without modifications or recompilation on breezy... | 12:39 |
| slomo | just wait until 4.6.1-1ubuntu1 is in the archives | 12:39 |
| Yagisan | slomo: no worries - I've been waiting a long time for this | 12:39 |
| pef | SloMo: http://mc.linuxinside.com | 12:40 |
| slomo | if something doesn't work as before blame me ;) i got a patch for utf8 support with slang1... and ported it to slang2 | 12:40 |
| slomo | pef: thanks... will take a look | 12:40 |
| pef | SloMo : look a the screenshots, very nice ! | 12:40 |
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| pef | SloMo: question about mc, is it normal that display is weird when using it under virtual consoles ? (ctrl+alt+Fx) | 12:41 |
| Yagisan | slomo: some time ago debian broke tab completion with a security update | 12:41 |
| Yagisan | slomo: it never got fixed | 12:41 |
| slomo | "there is no possibilities to compile it without some X parts, like Glib." ok, i stop reading the mc-lite page :P | 12:41 |
| slomo | pef: what do you mean with weird? | 12:41 |
| Yagisan | slomo: I doubt that you can do worse then that | 12:42 |
| slomo | Yagisan: tab completion in mc? | 12:42 |
| Yagisan | slomo: yes, it used to have tab completion like bash | 12:42 |
| slomo | Yagisan: uh, when? i used it the first time years ago... and there was nothing like tab completion since then ;) | 12:43 |
| dholbach | Glib has nothing to do with X | 12:43 |
| pef | SloMo: when scrolling on list of files, disply is not refreshed, so you have garbage on the screen | 12:43 |
| slomo | dholbach: that's why i stopped reading that page ;) | 12:43 |
| dholbach | right | 12:43 |
| slomo | pef: hm, works for me | 12:43 |
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| pef | SloMo: I'm using FR locale, maybe this is the problem ? | 12:44 |
| slomo | pef: fr_FR.UTF-8? | 12:45 |
| pef | SloMo: yes | 12:46 |
| slomo | pef: ok, i'll test it | 12:47 |
| Yagisan | slomo: pre-sarge on debian it worked | 12:49 |
| slomo | Yagisan: hmm... do you know which patch it is? | 12:49 |
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| Yagisan | slomo: nope, apparently M-tab is also a shortcut | 12:50 |
| Yagisan | slomo: but in my gnome terminal that doesn't work, as X intercepts that | 12:51 |
| slomo | pef: works fine here... hmm | 12:51 |
| Yagisan | slomo: mc command list http://twiki.med.yale.edu/twiki/bin/view/Tools/MidnightCommanderShortcuts | 12:52 |
| fujisan | dont whois me please :( | 12:53 |
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| slomo | Yagisan: thanks | 12:53 |
| pef | SloMo: I'm taking a screenshot with my camera :) | 12:53 |
| fujisan | lol | 12:53 |
| slomo | fujisan: why? :P | 12:54 |
| fujisan | :P | 12:54 |
| dholbach | slomo: maybe to take pictures of the installer :) | 12:54 |
| slomo | dholbach: ? | 12:55 |
| dholbach | slomo: erm... nevermind | 12:55 |
| slomo | dholbach: ok :) | 12:55 |
| dholbach | slomo: i thought you were asking pef "why?" :) | 12:55 |
| pef | I don't understand something with launchpad...I have assinged some bugs to me, but I can't see them when I click on my account on "bugs" | 12:56 |
| slomo | dholbach: nope... he will make a photo of mc ;) | 12:56 |
| fujisan | i'm an operator :P | 12:57 |
| slomo | pef: btw, the problem you have could be utf8 related... i had something similar before without the utf8 patch... maybe the working-with-utf8 version fixes it | 12:57 |
| Yagisan | slomo: it seems ESC+tab gets tab completion working again. /me wonders why that wasn't listed anyware | 12:57 |
| slomo | Yagisan: yes, esc+tab works here too :) | 12:58 |
| slomo | thanks | 12:58 |
| pef | SloMo: http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/9648/dscn02391pn.jpg (big picture) | 12:58 |
| Yagisan | pef: I get that too | 12:59 |
| slomo | pef: wrong terminal font or because of no utf8 support before... please retest with the version uploaded soon | 12:59 |
| slomo | Yagisan, pef please tell me when this is fixed later :) | 01:00 |
| pef | SloMo: I have distribution default fonts settings... will test your version :) | 01:01 |
| Yagisan | slomo: I too use breezy defaults, perhaps main should ship a nice unicode font for us | 01:02 |
| slomo | well, it works with utf8 chars for me | 01:02 |
| fujisan | :p | 01:02 |
| Yagisan | fujisan - what's the deal with asking me to go to #ubuntu-banned | 01:03 |
| fujisan | lol | 01:03 |
| fujisan | :) | 01:03 |
| fujisan | joke | 01:03 |
| pef | SloMo : new version for dapper or breezy-updates ? | 01:03 |
| slomo | pef: dapper... it's a fairly big change... maybe something for backports later | 01:04 |
| Yagisan | fujisan: not funny | 01:04 |
| fujisan | haha | 01:04 |
| slomo | pef: but the binary should work without recompilation on breezy | 01:04 |
| fujisan | "when nature calls we all shall drown..." | 01:04 |
| fujisan | :) | 01:04 |
| slomo | fujisan: part of the lyrics of a good song by tiamat :P | 01:05 |
| fujisan | :P | 01:05 |
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| pef | dholbach: do you know if someone is working on UniverseDesktopFileAbsolutePath ? | 01:10 |
| dholbach | erm, no | 01:11 |
| dholbach | pef: Mortas wrote it | 01:11 |
| pef | Mortas: :) | 01:11 |
| pef | dholbach: tanks, I haven't found his irc nickname | 01:11 |
| pef | Mortas: hello, are you working on UniverseDesktopFileAbsolutePath ? | 01:11 |
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| slomo | dholbach, pef, Yagisan: built fine on x86 and ppc... amd64 didn't build because of some dependency problems... will be given-back | 01:37 |
| slomo | please write bugreports to malone or mail@slomosnail.de | 01:37 |
| slomo | i won't be online until tuesday evening | 01:37 |
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| pef | dholbach: hello Daniel | 02:02 |
| Mortas | pef: when I see packages that don't confirm yes | 02:02 |
| Mortas | however not active at the moment | 02:02 |
| Mortas | just finished ppc installation (which I'm working on now) to go take a poke at the failing builds | 02:03 |
| Mortas | but feel free to pick it up if you want to | 02:03 |
| Mortas | best thing to do imho is to just check packages that you're working on anyway, because there are quite a lot of them most likely | 02:03 |
| pef | Mortas: does this problem justify a new version ? or just make this changes with anothers ones more important ? | 02:03 |
| pef | ok :) | 02:04 |
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| Mortas | ooh bootsplash on ppc looks hella ugly | 02:05 |
| Mortas | well on my powerbook atleast | 02:05 |
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| keyes | I need help to make a Enemy Territory package | 02:20 |
| keyes | The sound don't work if don't run this command as root (don't work with sudo) before running the game echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss | 02:21 |
| keyes | how can I do it (add it to bootmisc.sh is not very clean) | 02:22 |
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| Yagisan | keyes: you also need to add export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.2 to the et shell script | 02:39 |
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| Yagisan | keyes: that workaround only needs to be done on systems that don't have hardware mixing on the audio card | 02:48 |
| Yagisan | keyes: the esddsp workaround should be ok on i386 (assuming ubuntu stays with esd), but won't work with amd64 | 02:49 |
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| Mez | siretart: ping | 03:57 |
| Fuji-san | ? | 03:59 |
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| siretart | Mez: pong | 04:10 |
| siretart | Fuji-san: huh? | 04:10 |
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| \sh | re | 04:12 |
| Treenaks | \sh: wb | 04:12 |
| \sh | I hate my bank | 04:12 |
| Treenaks | ? | 04:12 |
| \sh | Treenaks: waiting for my bloody salary | 04:12 |
| Treenaks | argh | 04:12 |
| siretart | wb \sh | 04:12 |
| \sh | re siretart | 04:13 |
| \sh | I hate to fly with knowing that my account is empty | 04:13 |
| siretart | fuck.. :( | 04:13 |
| \sh | and everybody else has their salary already on the account... | 04:13 |
| \sh | so its my bloody stupid bank | 04:13 |
| Treenaks | we have one bank like that in .nl | 04:14 |
| Treenaks | takes up to 9 days(!) for people to get their money | 04:14 |
| \sh | Treenaks: let me take a guess...a daughter of the german sparkasse? ,-) | 04:14 |
| Treenaks | \sh: no, not that one | 04:15 |
| \sh | Treenaks: well...the company transfered the money on monday...4 days for one transfer normally... | 04:15 |
| siretart | Mez: you pinged me earlier? whats up? | 04:16 |
| \sh | and I have to buy some stuff for the flight I'm really really *censored* | 04:16 |
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| \sh | does somebody know if I can get money with my ec card in canada? | 04:18 |
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| Yagisan | Fuji-san: | 04:46 |
| siretart | ok, I'm on my way home now, cu later | 04:48 |
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| chillywilly | lalala | 04:53 |
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| dholbach | how about a MOTUDocumentation BOF? :) | 05:22 |
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| tritium | Wow, your conference starts tomorrow. | 05:28 |
| sivang | tritium: conference starts nnow? | 05:29 |
| tritium | sivang, as far as I remember. I thought Saturday was the first day. I'm not going, so I could be wrong. | 05:30 |
| sivang | tritium: right | 05:30 |
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| \sh | Treenaks: sunday the conf is starting | 05:58 |
| \sh | argl | 05:58 |
| \sh | tritium: i mean ;) | 05:58 |
| tritium | \sh, oh, my mistake | 05:58 |
| rbelem | hello people | 06:02 |
| dholbach | hi rbelem | 06:05 |
| tritium | hi rbelem, dholbach | 06:05 |
| dholbach | tritium: hey michael :) | 06:05 |
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| === tritium will be with all of you at UBZ in spirit | ||
| rbelem | can you indicate a book or something like to get deeper my knowledge in C? My C knowledge level is only academic. I was trying to fix some bugs, but my knowledge don't allow me go on. | 06:06 |
| rbelem | :'( | 06:06 |
| siretart | dholbach: what exactly do you want to discuss at MOTUDocumentation? | 06:06 |
| dholbach | siretart: the wiki pages and how people get into "the motu thing" | 06:07 |
| dholbach | siretart: i got a lot of mails and requests on irc to tell people "what to do" and "what it's all about" | 06:07 |
| rbelem | hi dholbach, tritium ;-) | 06:07 |
| siretart | dholbach: this would be a very good idea, since this would help to attract more potential motus! | 06:07 |
| dholbach | i'm fine with that | 06:07 |
| dholbach | but i think we can do better | 06:07 |
| \sh | ok...what do i need | 06:07 |
| siretart | yeah | 06:07 |
| \sh | mvos wifi router packed | 06:08 |
| \sh | sivangs book packed | 06:08 |
| tritium | It would be good to lower the entry barrier for new folks, and folks that are trying to get re-involved | 06:08 |
| rbelem | dholbach: i listed at my wiki page some links to people get into "the motu thing" | 06:09 |
| \sh | toshiba laptop and power supply packed | 06:09 |
| \sh | mobile charger packed | 06:09 |
| dholbach | rbelem: oh cool, which one is it? | 06:09 |
| \sh | 2 power plug converter packed | 06:09 |
| rbelem | dholbach: RodrigoBelem | 06:09 |
| siretart | I'm also thinking about what to bring | 06:09 |
| \sh | camera charger | 06:09 |
| dholbach | tritium: i guess at the moment, we're all a bit confused ourselves, so it's hard to get people into "working" | 06:09 |
| tritium | dholbach, I can understand that. | 06:10 |
| dholbach | do you think teams would make it easier? | 06:10 |
| dholbach | motu subteams | 06:10 |
| \sh | hp nc6000 will be packed later | 06:10 |
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| tritium | I can only speak for myelf, but I would need some focus/direction, either from a subteam, or a mentor, or a leader who can delegate a bit | 06:10 |
| dholbach | rbelem: wow, that's cool | 06:11 |
| \sh | multiple socket will be packed as well later | 06:11 |
| \sh | passport packed | 06:11 |
| dholbach | tritium: i think i will go out have a smoke and think about it :) | 06:11 |
| \sh | clothes packed | 06:11 |
| \sh | I think I'm ready | 06:11 |
| tritium | dholbach, be safe :) | 06:12 |
| dholbach | merci :) | 06:12 |
| rbelem | dholbach: i see that there is many wiki pages, but nothing that link then | 06:12 |
| dholbach | tritium: and thanks for telling your views on it | 06:12 |
| \sh | siretart: I'll go just now to my bank and check on the cash machine if the money is there...I'm really really p*ssed | 06:12 |
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| tritium | dholbach, thanks for listening too | 06:12 |
| dholbach | rbelem: absolutely... i'd like to have kind of a "round trip" on the wiki, showing people around, telling them all our instruments/processes/tools/... | 06:13 |
| dholbach | rbelem: it's the beginning of a new release cycle, so this is the perfect time to DO IT :) | 06:13 |
| rbelem | dholbach: i can help you to write it | 06:14 |
| rbelem | ;-) | 06:14 |
| dholbach | rbelem: COOL :) | 06:14 |
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| tritium | dholbach, if there were well-documented processes/procedures for such things as merging, etc., we could pitch in whenever we had a spare hour or two | 06:14 |
| rbelem | heheheeheh | 06:14 |
| rbelem | =) | 06:14 |
| dholbach | tritium: absolutely | 06:15 |
| hub | hi | 06:15 |
| dholbach | hey hub | 06:15 |
| hub | I have some license question | 06:15 |
| hub | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=738 | 06:15 |
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| thesaltydog | dholbach, have you ever heard of complains concerning ppc perl installation in breezy? | 06:15 |
| dholbach | thesaltydog: no | 06:15 |
| hub | thesaltydog: was working fine on my laptop | 06:15 |
| thesaltydog | It seems that the stddef.ph file can't be found on perl 5.8.7... I do not have a ppc so I can't test | 06:16 |
| dholbach | hub: can't you get the upstream author commenting on that? | 06:16 |
| siretart | sh: good luck! | 06:16 |
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| hub | dholbach: I haven't asked him. so ok, will do that | 06:18 |
| hub | I have plenty of time now | 06:19 |
| rbelem | dholbach: can i start today night? i have to work at afternoon (here 12:19 now) | 06:19 |
| dholbach | hub: it's the easiest... if people feel uneasy about "some files are under different licences", i can understand that | 06:19 |
| dholbach | rbelem: sure, that'd be awesome... i'll think about it and make additions or discuss it with you | 06:19 |
| hub | make sense | 06:19 |
| rbelem | dholbach: cool ;-) | 06:20 |
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| \sh | k guys...going to bed....cu tomorrow (at least some of u) in .ca | 08:29 |
| crimsun | 'night | 08:29 |
| dredg | dholbach: good morning | 08:29 |
| \sh | siretart: will call you when I'm hitting ffm ground :) | 08:29 |
| dholbach | dredg: re :) | 08:30 |
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| siretart | gn8 \sh_away | 08:58 |
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| LaserJock | welcome back tritium ;-) | 11:21 |
| tritium | LaserJock, heh, thanks. My laptop decided it wanted to reboot for some reason ;) | 11:21 |
| LaserJock | bummer | 11:21 |
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| LaserJock | lol, again? | 11:23 |
| tritium | yep, heh | 11:23 |
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| LaserJock | overheat? | 11:24 |
| tritium | no idea | 11:24 |
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| linlin | Hi Im wondering if I can request a few apps to be added to the repos. | 11:59 |
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| linlin | I dont know if anyone is here right now to hear this so ill jsut say the names: CTorrent and kftpgrabber | 11:59 |
| LaserJock | linlin: you might wat to take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates | 12:00 |
| linlin | kthx | 12:01 |
| Riddell | kftpgrabber is in revu | 12:02 |
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