[12:02] before hoary release, sometime === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:03] same as me then :) [12:03] but i hit launchpad a while back and uploaded the signed coc, ssh keys and some other stuff [12:03] which reminds me, the wiki and launchpad thinks there's a few of me. i need to get them merged [12:09] yea, that's cause they did a bunch of auto-imports [12:09] from diff sources === Kaloz_ [n=kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luk [n=luk@130.187-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb finally finds his GPG key [12:37] schweeb: let me guess. it was in a safe place? [12:37] :) [12:38] yea, in my old laptop, sitting on my shelf in under my TV [12:39] :-) === segfault [i=carlos@prognus.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bur[n] er [n=burner@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] there, got it to at least say I'm a ubuntite :P === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] malone's the main universe bug tracker now, right? [12:45] not main, but universe yes :-) [12:46] you know damn well what I meant :P [12:47] no, you got me confused :-) === schweeb tries to figure out who to poke about getting his membership status fixed [12:51] schweeb: an admin :-) [12:52] kamion, mako, and elmo all haven't been active for a while on IRC, so... === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] hey ogra [12:53] ho schweeb [12:53] ogra: ! :-) [12:54] hrm, how does one view only universe bugs in malone [12:54] ogra: I'm settin off to do some work now!!! [12:54] cool ! [12:55] ogra: I think hughsie might want you in -devel :-) [12:56] atleast earlier. [01:00] is there even a way to view ONLY universe bugs in malone? [01:00] or should I search for ones assigned to MOTU? === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-39-123.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] Nafallo, i already told him, i'm out of time [01:04] but thanks for reminding === schweeb kicks malone [01:04] RequestExpired [01:04] A server error occurred. [01:04] arrrrrghhhh [01:05] ogra: oki === Treenaks [n=martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-247-16.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb decides to drink alcohol until he figures out how to use malone well === Cashel [n=doc@c-24-21-218-46.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] just a quick heads up, it seems the gnome-btdownload package is bugy/broken ... version 0.0.22 on the authors site isnt... might wanna update it.... === Mortas_ [n=kris@217.148.89.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] Cashel: thanx for the heads up. I'll prepare a debdiff and send it to some random main-dude :-) [01:58] hi ppl [01:59] I want to create package that contains rnc files (Relax NG Schemas) [01:59] and I what path shoud I use to install these schemas... [02:00] there is /usr/share/sgml and /usr/share/xml but rnc schemas aren't smgl and also not xml... [02:00] any suggestions? === DapperDrake [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.247] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-119-202.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] Nafallo: np :) [02:15] Cashel: main-devels applied lots of changes, so I gave it to them through a bug :-) [02:15] yeah, I've been scratching my head a bit since the 13th, heh [02:16] you guys will probably hate me, but outside of synaptic I dont see any difference in breezy... someone in #ubuntu was saying how much different gnome 2.12 looked... I dont see any different except for the available panel add-ons, heh.. [02:16] anyone here program with gtk-sharp? === dredg [n=nsherida@216-239-45-4.google.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jmg [n=Jernau@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:21] Cashel: you are right [02:21] Cashel: you have to look very carefully to find out the difference === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cashel nods [02:23] Cashel: propably this http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/ article could help you [02:23] :-) [02:27] marcin thanks :P [02:28] Cashel: ;> [02:31] any of you folks use qemu / vmware , etc? [02:31] wondering is vmware is any fast... win 2k3 under qemu is mind numbingly slow... [02:31] s/fast/faster/ [02:32] vmware is decently fast [02:32] Cashel: ubuntu-motu folks use ubuntu software not win 2k3 ;) [02:32] heh [02:32] dereks: I have a little bit [02:33] ehhhhh I think that I need to decide myself [02:33] but anyway - is /usr/share/xml/rnc a good path for rnc schemas? [02:41] schweeb: how come i can't get the gtk.filechooserbutton to work [02:44] are we going to get gtk-sharp 2.6 added anytime soon? [02:45] in dapper === blehbleh [n=ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487F22B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] hmm [03:18] Hows this for an experiment [03:18] I take the debs for Mezzo, Metatheme, and Orchestra and try to install them :D [03:20] metatheme is still useful? [03:20] I guess so [03:20] its sort of built into gnome these days [03:20] Orchestra depends on it [03:20] since 2.6 or something [03:20] orchewhat? [03:20] Its a part of SymphonyOS [03:20] sigh [03:21] dapper doesn't work as a pbuilder atm? [03:21] no [03:22] *sigh* [03:22] well, it actually depends what your b-ds are [03:22] debhelper ;-) [03:22] yeah, it'll be fixed/built soon [03:22] cdbs? :-) [03:23] I hope things work after the damn debhelper :-) [03:23] would be fun to have gcc and family at some point also ;-) [03:24] well a metric assload has been thrown at the buildds in addition to the sid sync, so slowness is expected [03:24] :-) [03:25] they are still not finished? :-) [03:26] gcc-4.0 is finished on three arches [03:26] failed pretty hard on amd64 [03:26] baah. don't count ia64 ;-) === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-161-910.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] Well, it worked, but not well === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-161-910.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo makes his first upload to dapper :-) [03:29] wow, even I beat you [03:29] Nafallo: nice :-) [03:29] and I dont do anything [03:30] Okay, how do I kill the panel at the top of XFCE? [03:30] the taskbar ;P === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-99-40.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] you can only hide it afaik [03:30] dbus -> libdbus ;-) [03:30] so ive been told [03:31] or kill it ;P [03:31] just pop open system monitor and BAM! ;P [03:31] sigh [03:31] thats not very persistant [03:32] It is when I save the session [03:32] oh! [03:32] where does XFCE keep its config files in ~/ anyway? [03:32] tried .config/ ? [03:32] ~/.config [03:32] dont fret [03:32] freedesktop will tell you where to put your files === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-161-910.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] here is a good mental note for you all [03:36] dont start a window manager from the console and then ^Z it [03:36] you'll be sorry [03:36] lol [03:36] Yah I like the iconbox better than the taskbar :D [03:36] (openbox --replace &) == better [03:36] iconbox rocks [03:37] you dont see all the open crap [03:37] Hmm, Rox-Filer or XFFM? [03:37] Thunar [03:37] Do they have a Deb for it yet? [03:37] yes, it's at os-works [03:38] don't use it yet === Kyral falls down [03:38] jani and I haven't merged it properly yet [03:38] Crimsun, I just "hijacked" Mezzo from SymphonyOS into Ubuntu [03:38] (although several people actually do use it with breezy apparently) [03:40] I think I can handle a nonstandard package or two ;P [03:40] i hate both rox-file and xffm [03:41] mmm, drop shadows... [03:41] Transparency... [03:41] I like rox-filer, but xffm has got to go [03:41] and with both of those active its STILL faster than GNOME + MetaCity [03:41] thunar rules them both despite its infancy [03:42] then can I install it? [03:42] NOPE [03:42] you're free to do whatever you want, Kyral [03:42] I'm impulsive and bored. I installed Mezzo successfully on Ubuntu [03:44] Anyone know what font the titlebar is using in this pic? http://www.xfce-look.org/content/pre1/23060-1.png [03:45] download the theme and look at the file [03:45] good point... === Nafallo builds dapper-things with breezy cause dapper is broken :-P [03:46] Got it nm :P === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-50-19.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] so can anyone reccommend a good terminal emulator that isn't GNOME Term? [03:51] xterminal [03:52] there are a bunch, though [03:52] rxvt-unicode, mlterm, etc. [03:52] What about XFCE4-Terminal? [03:52] apt-cache search quake :-) [03:52] I think you need to read xterminal's description. [03:52] lol [03:52] xterminal removes xfce4-terminal [03:53] we'll kill one or the other === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-161-910.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] Now if I could just find out why the panel disappears randomly... === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] how do I find the current debian standards version again? [04:21] packages.debian.org/debian-policy [04:21] (3.6.2.1) [04:28] crimsun: ah, thanks [04:28] np === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [n=sz@p5089D46D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [n=sz@p5089EE11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@ip101109.101.nas.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:42] there is no libiberty in Ubuntu? [05:43] Ok, winesetuptk is still in universe [05:44] I thought I sent an email asking for this to be removed a long time ago [05:44] All it does is break stuff now === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-161-910.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:45] Who can remove stuff from universe? === yi [i=yi@rollright.bmsc.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] remove....why remove... [05:49] Let's put it this way: all the package does is break wine configurations and confuse users. It doesn't setup anything anymore. [05:49] It was obsoleted like 2 years ago. [05:49] ?????? [05:49] Oh, I'm talking about package winesetuptk [05:49] Didn't notice you just came in === Kyral shrugs [05:50] I think you need to file a bug [05:56] YokoZar: elmo can remove (move to morgue) packages [05:56] Riddell: thanks [05:57] I'm not sure if there's a list somewhere of packages to be morgued [05:57] mmm [05:57] New kernel!! 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[10:47] morning folks! [10:47] thesaltydog: I ignore them, they don't matter that much [10:47] morning siretart [10:47] hi zyga === zyga needs to fix hotplug scripts borking on scanner === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-15-65.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:50] anyone on? === Mortas_ looks around [10:51] yep [10:51] I'm still having issues with dbus since I"ve upgraded to breezy [10:51] and I haven't found any bugs in bugzilla [10:52] on shutdown I'm getting an error saying it can't find hald.pid === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:52] its hard writing all the info down on shutdown :( [10:53] its under the /etc/dbus and one of the files there on line 49 its calling to kill hald which is fine however its not finding it on my system [10:53] if you manually try to stop the service instead of shutting down you might get the same error with a bit of luck [10:53] yeah I used to [10:53] so you can paste it in a bug report [10:53] but I dont' anymore [10:53] ah ok [10:53] siretart, yes, but they really get me confused as they can hidden other important warnings... [10:53] I just tried a dpkg-reconfigure on both hal as well as dbus [10:54] but that didn't fix it :( [10:55] well I can't really help you with this because I don't have a breezy release box anymore, could you file a bug with as much info as you have? [10:56] yeah I'm just reading the 20hal script [10:56] and its showing the right location of hte pid? [10:56] this is what has got be confused [10:56] thesaltydog: the error comes from dpkg-buildpackage, it doesn't find the userid as expected from the host system in your chroot === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:57] siretart, that was what I suspected.. Some more words on the pbuilderHowTo would be greatly appreciated..:-) [10:58] is this correct kill -9 $(< $PIDFILE) || true [10:58] thesaltydog: just add them, someone with more clue will correct it when something gets wrong or confusing [10:58] its coming up with a possible error under vi? === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A65009.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:03] "morning" [11:03] dholbach, morning [11:03] hi StrikeForce [11:03] can someone on a breezy box tell me what dbus files they have under /etc/default? === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:14] who takes care of dbus? [11:14] hi dholbach! [11:14] hey siretart [11:15] StrikeForce: pitti and daniels, i guess [11:15] ahh k [11:15] I've got a few questions just wondering whether its my system or if its a bug === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:19] mornin' all [11:19] has anyone managed to get a dapper pbuilder workign? [11:19] I got a dapper running, but haven't tried pbuilder yet [11:20] \sh: have you managed to get a dapper pbuilder running? [11:20] <\sh> moins [11:21] <\sh> spayne: yes...create a breezy one and update to dapper ;) [11:21] \sh: just when i try and create a dapper one, it fails [11:21] E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/dapper [11:21] <\sh> spayne: well...could be that the debootstrap script is not in place [11:21] get a new debootstrap first [11:21] <\sh> spayne: yes... [11:22] <\sh> u should download the new debootstrap from dapper and install it by hand [11:22] <\sh> I think kamion fixed it the last days [11:22] \sh: now that's good thinking :) === zyga invites everyone interested in hardware related discussions to #ubuntu-hardware [11:22] <\sh> spayne: but the easiest way...create breezy one, and update pbuilder to dapper ;) [11:22] Hi spayne :) [11:22] wouldn't apt-get -t dapper install debootstrap work? [11:23] <\sh> should work, yes === herzi [n=herzi@d014083.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:23] i'm just not running dapper on this machine yet [11:23] = main laptop [11:23] for people like me who are to lazy to search for a package on an archive :) [11:23] = want to see how Dapper pans out :) [11:23] got my wrecking box here set up with dapper, no issues yet [11:24] sadly enough [11:24] break something already, I wanna fix stuff :) [11:24] i guess the buildlogs have enough broken stuff :) === siretart is updating dapper pbuilder on tiber [11:25] dholbach: see previously mentioned point of lack of docs about that on wiki :) [11:25] siretart: your nick always reminds me of a prodigy song. [11:25] or at least I haven't been able to find a starting spot for fixing dapper breakage [11:25] highvoltage: yeah? which one? [11:25] update successful [11:26] siretart: firestarter [11:26] Mortas: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html [11:26] \sh: you are my hero [11:27] dholbach: yay :) [11:27] now where did you find that? === \sh is just p*ssed... [11:27] I hate asking questions [11:27] <\sh> someone not right in his head enabled my office phone divertion to my mobile. [11:27] highvoltage: great song :) [11:27] <\sh> since this morning I got 5 phonecalls [11:28] \sh, i take it your at Montreal? === sedak [n=fred@home.nenya.info] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:28] <\sh> now I will go to the office and kick someones ass ;) [11:28] <\sh> spayne: yes [11:28] \sh, how is it? [11:28] <\sh> spayne: oh no...I'm flying tomorrow [11:28] <\sh> spayne: ogra is already there [11:33] ok, lunch === \sh is brb [11:36] <\sh> or better bbl [11:39] hmm loads of ppc breakage [11:40] time to give that ibook a use [11:40] is there a need to purge pbuilder's cache before upgrading to dapper or will that automagically get done === slomo [n=slomo@vpn-imt11.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d015175.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === drbyte [n=byte@fedora/byte] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:08] so, out of curiosity, how does one get "involved" with the ubuntu project? [12:10] drbyte, nag people :( although I'm not involved so I'm not sure whether I can offer any constructive advice [12:10] StrikeForce: heh. right. [12:11] drbyte: depends on what you want to do... [12:11] dholbach: hi there. you may remember me ;-) [12:11] drbyte: if you want to be a package maintainer, then #ubuntu-motu is just the right place :) [12:13] drbyte: try to do some work. If you see something that could be improved, suggest improvments. There are a lot of areas which could need improvement, I think [12:13] our wiki pages made big progess [12:16] anyone know if browser-bookmarks-menu is getting worked on? [12:16] I've just about finished it [12:18] if a required package is python-gnome2 do I need to add gnome to it if python-gnome2 has a dependancy of gnome? [12:18] lol hope that makes sense [12:22] that will be fixed by the dependencies python-gnome2 has [12:22] yeah thats right [12:22] I'm just questioning whether it needs to be added or not [12:22] thankfully not, otherwise you'd need to add xorg and everything gnome depends on as well :) [12:23] that's the whole idea of the dependency system === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] yeah I know just making sure [12:23] cause I"ve seen some big dependancy chains [12:23] build it in a clean pbuilder environment, it will shout if it misses stuff [12:23] yeah I have [12:23] the building isn't the issue [12:23] the running of it is [12:24] its only 1 python file [12:24] and a config file [12:24] ah runtime depends [12:24] yep [12:24] you should be able to use 'pbuilder login' to get in the chroot, install the package and see if it grabs everything you need to run it [12:26] I've tested it in breezy and it works fine [12:27] well in that case you should put it on revu I guess === tigger^ [n=tigger@gentoo/developer/tigger] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:28] someone can confime that Standards-Version should be set to 3.6.2 instead of 3.6.2.1 ? [12:28] can't atm unmet deps Mortas [12:28] although if someone wants to revu it [12:28] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=830 [12:29] :) [12:29] pef: 3.6.2 is fine, only the first 3 digits matter [12:29] and rufus has been there since breezy froze :( [12:29] pef: the last one is just for typos and the like [12:29] hopefully someone have another look at it [12:29] pef: dpkg -l debian-policy [12:29] dholbach: I just wanted a confirmation, thanks ! === keyes [n=keyes@lns-bzn-34-82-249-240-180.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:30] StrikeForce: I'll give it a try once I get this ppc box running [12:30] de rien [12:30] Mortas: thanks [12:30] Mortas, there are unmet deps in dapper obviously so pbuilder builds fine but installing it I can't install the unmet deps [12:31] <_Tonio_> dholbach: i've been asked for putting 3.6.2.1, that's why we wanted the information with pef [12:31] <_Tonio_> just to be sure all revuers are waiting for the same thing [12:31] 3.6.2.1 is not incorrect, but simply not necessary [12:32] (that's what i've been told half a year ago ;))) [12:32] <_Tonio_> dholbach: okay. [12:32] the last digit is only for cosmetical changes === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:34] dholbach: do you know if I'm allowed to edit the universe candidates page to advise that one package is in REVU? [12:35] dholbach: never mind I've just finished editiing it and its worked :) [12:35] StrikeForce: sure, thanks for taking care [12:36] is someone of you using mc (midnight commander)? [12:36] i uploaded a version with utf8 support some minutes ago... would be nice if you can tell me if it works for you too :) [12:36] slomo: every 2 months :) [12:37] but i can give it a spin, once it's there [12:37] SloMo: hello, do you know "mc-light" ? [12:37] pef: no... what's that? [12:37] give me url,etc please ;) === dholbach only knows M.C. Lyte :-p [12:38] slomo: I use mc and utf-8 [12:38] slomo: * and need [12:39] Yagisan: perfect :) you can probably use the dapper package without modifications or recompilation on breezy... [12:39] just wait until 4.6.1-1ubuntu1 is in the archives [12:39] slomo: no worries - I've been waiting a long time for this [12:40] SloMo: http://mc.linuxinside.com [12:40] if something doesn't work as before blame me ;) i got a patch for utf8 support with slang1... and ported it to slang2 [12:40] pef: thanks... will take a look [12:40] SloMo : look a the screenshots, very nice ! === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] SloMo: question about mc, is it normal that display is weird when using it under virtual consoles ? (ctrl+alt+Fx) [12:41] slomo: some time ago debian broke tab completion with a security update [12:41] slomo: it never got fixed [12:41] "there is no possibilities to compile it without some X parts, like Glib." ok, i stop reading the mc-lite page :P [12:41] pef: what do you mean with weird? [12:42] slomo: I doubt that you can do worse then that [12:42] Yagisan: tab completion in mc? [12:42] slomo: yes, it used to have tab completion like bash [12:43] Yagisan: uh, when? i used it the first time years ago... and there was nothing like tab completion since then ;) [12:43] Glib has nothing to do with X [12:43] SloMo: when scrolling on list of files, disply is not refreshed, so you have garbage on the screen [12:43] dholbach: that's why i stopped reading that page ;) [12:43] right [12:43] pef: hm, works for me === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0498.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] SloMo: I'm using FR locale, maybe this is the problem ? [12:45] pef: fr_FR.UTF-8? [12:46] SloMo: yes [12:47] pef: ok, i'll test it [12:49] slomo: pre-sarge on debian it worked [12:49] Yagisan: hmm... do you know which patch it is? === fujisan [n=fujisan@d46120.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] slomo: nope, apparently M-tab is also a shortcut [12:51] slomo: but in my gnome terminal that doesn't work, as X intercepts that [12:51] pef: works fine here... hmm [12:52] slomo: mc command list http://twiki.med.yale.edu/twiki/bin/view/Tools/MidnightCommanderShortcuts [12:53] dont whois me please :( === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] Yagisan: thanks [12:53] SloMo: I'm taking a screenshot with my camera :) [12:53] lol [12:54] fujisan: why? :P [12:54] :P [12:54] slomo: maybe to take pictures of the installer :) [12:55] dholbach: ? [12:55] slomo: erm... nevermind [12:55] dholbach: ok :) [12:55] slomo: i thought you were asking pef "why?" :) [12:56] I don't understand something with launchpad...I have assinged some bugs to me, but I can't see them when I click on my account on "bugs" [12:56] dholbach: nope... he will make a photo of mc ;) [12:57] i'm an operator :P [12:57] pef: btw, the problem you have could be utf8 related... i had something similar before without the utf8 patch... maybe the working-with-utf8 version fixes it [12:57] slomo: it seems ESC+tab gets tab completion working again. /me wonders why that wasn't listed anyware [12:58] Yagisan: yes, esc+tab works here too :) [12:58] thanks [12:58] SloMo: http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/9648/dscn02391pn.jpg (big picture) [12:59] pef: I get that too [12:59] pef: wrong terminal font or because of no utf8 support before... please retest with the version uploaded soon [01:00] Yagisan, pef please tell me when this is fixed later :) [01:01] SloMo: I have distribution default fonts settings... will test your version :) [01:02] slomo: I too use breezy defaults, perhaps main should ship a nice unicode font for us [01:02] well, it works with utf8 chars for me [01:02] :p [01:03] fujisan - what's the deal with asking me to go to #ubuntu-banned [01:03] lol [01:03] :) [01:03] joke [01:03] SloMo : new version for dapper or breezy-updates ? [01:04] pef: dapper... it's a fairly big change... maybe something for backports later [01:04] fujisan: not funny [01:04] haha [01:04] pef: but the binary should work without recompilation on breezy [01:04] "when nature calls we all shall drown..." [01:04] :) [01:05] fujisan: part of the lyrics of a good song by tiamat :P [01:05] :P === koke_ [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] dholbach: do you know if someone is working on UniverseDesktopFileAbsolutePath ? [01:11] erm, no [01:11] pef: Mortas wrote it [01:11] Mortas: :) [01:11] dholbach: tanks, I haven't found his irc nickname [01:11] Mortas: hello, are you working on UniverseDesktopFileAbsolutePath ? === markuman [n=supermar@p50925B24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487F22B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:37] dholbach, pef, Yagisan: built fine on x86 and ppc... amd64 didn't build because of some dependency problems... will be given-back [01:37] please write bugreports to malone or mail@slomosnail.de [01:37] i won't be online until tuesday evening === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:02] dholbach: hello Daniel [02:02] pef: when I see packages that don't confirm yes [02:02] however not active at the moment [02:03] just finished ppc installation (which I'm working on now) to go take a poke at the failing builds [02:03] but feel free to pick it up if you want to [02:03] best thing to do imho is to just check packages that you're working on anyway, because there are quite a lot of them most likely [02:03] Mortas: does this problem justify a new version ? or just make this changes with anothers ones more important ? [02:04] ok :) === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] ooh bootsplash on ppc looks hella ugly [02:05]