[12:00] <Fordprefect> thanks guys thats cure the problem, I have used hedgehog for so long I forgot
[12:00] <TedLemon> oewyn: gnome is probably getting your wireless card's IP address.
[12:00] <TedLemon> oewyn: but I haven't looked at the code, so I can't say for sure - you'll just have to try.   :'}
[12:00] <sunshine82> i dont know what ot do i need to access internet baknkin
[12:00] <Oewyn> TedLemon: Okay thanks, brb gonna try it now
[12:00] <TedLemon> oewyn:cool
[12:01] <mojo> :D
[12:01] <Fordprefect> the wireless tools are much better these days
[12:02] <GMachine_24> i know this is very basic, but what can i use to listen to .mp3 files?
[12:02] <sunshine82> help please
[12:02] <paddel> hello..
[12:02] <GMachine_24> hello
[12:02] <Fordprefect> thansk guys for the help
[12:02] <Fordprefect> bye for now
[12:02] <paddel> i have a problem, i have updated my breezy ..to breezy badger...its all done...
[12:03] <paddel> but theres a problem, before i've made the update, i had the grub bootloader installed, and there was a config for my xp hdd..
[12:03] <Coburn> ciao
[12:03] <sunshine82> help please
[12:03] <Coburn> ho bisogno di un aiuto
[12:03] <Coburn> sorry
[12:03] <epk> GMachine_24, sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:03] <paddel> but breezy badger update, has deleted this config, i've seen in breezy before, that there was a GUI to install it again -.-
[12:03] <GMachine_24> what do you need sunshine?
[12:03] <paddel> but in breezy badger i cant find it o_O
[12:04] <GMachine_24> i have xmms epk but it doesn't seem to want to play mp3s
[12:05] <nalioth> sunshine82: when did it start doing these things?
[12:05] <jvai> rythymbox play mp3's fine.. well, on hoary anywayz
[12:05] <Oewyn> TedLemon: tried setting my ip address in hosts as . but same problem.... hrmm...
[12:05] <TedLemon> oewyn: sorry.   :'(
[12:05] <GMachine_24> rhythmbox?
[12:06] <jvai> yes.. i dl'ed some mp3s awhile ago.. rythymbox opened them up
[12:06] <Coburn> how i can install package in ubuntu downloading from an internet point and then put in a pendrive????
[12:06] <kevogod> !mp3
[12:06] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[12:06] <Coburn> i have a slowly connection in my home
[12:06] <GMachine_24> ty ubotu
[12:06] <Oewyn> brb
[12:07] <beegor> i tried to compile some modem drivers, but I got a message that I don't have linux sources installed, how to install them?
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> anyone herre playing quake4 on breezy have problems with ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open?
[12:08] <jvai> i see "eth1" listed now for wifi.. today, aftr using eth0 for eons to get on witrelessly.. this is odd, maybe now i can go to starbucks & be able to get on
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> no such file...
[12:08] <jvai> & i'm on hoary still
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> but its there..
[12:09] <lsuactiafner>  /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1 exisits
[12:10] <GamanaAm> hi
[12:10] <cesar> helo!!
[12:10] <GamanaAm> after "apt-get install gcc-3.4 cpp-3.4 make" i get "gcc not found", any ideas?
[12:10] <jvai> oi!
[12:10] <cesar> how can i mount a usb disk?
[12:10] <sunshine82> nalioth well i aptget install camstream a few days ago and debiam came into application i though it was fro camstream only but it had everything in it mplayer internet everything which made it seem odd then i though i uninstall camstream and it went away but it seem to come back when it ready
[12:11] <darkheart> GamanaAm Did you 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'?
[12:11] <nalioth> sunshine82: where did you install it from?
[12:11] <Oewyn> okay, how about this question then... is there anyway to have a script run as root when you log on to Gnome, i know it has to do something with chmod #### and the first # is the effective level that this script is run at?
[12:11] <GamanaAm> darkheart, oh! i forgot "build-essential"
[12:11] <sunshine82> nalioth i just aptget install camstream in terminal i dont recall download anything else could my ports be openor something
[12:11] <ivan> hi, should the password of loging in as super user be the same as the one I used to login to OS?
[12:12] <darkheart> GamanaAm If you are building things, you'll want that package. Your problem, though, is probably that the binary installed for gcc-3.4 is actually called '/usr/bin/gcc-3.4' and not symlinked to '/usr/bin/gcc'
[12:12] <Oewyn> ivan: i believe it's the first login you created w/ ubuntu
[12:12] <Oewyn> that password
[12:12] <sunshine82> nalioth what does it sound like
[12:12] <nalioth> sunshine82: i suspect you have not noticed your 'debian' menu before (we all have it)
[12:12] <cafuego> nalioth: I don't have one.
[12:13] <ivan> I do not think I did any operation like that
[12:13] <ivan> or should I do it know in the terminal?
[12:13] <nalioth> cafuego: hmph. that's funny
[12:14] <Cambo> Hi,
[12:14] <Cambo> Does anyone know how to change the default mail delivery method?
[12:14] <Cambo> I need to get it to forward to an external host....
[12:14] <sunshine82> nalioth im new to all this i notice everything im tellin ya it wasnt there before ever i've been on ubuntu for 2 months now it wasnt there when i was on hoary and it wasnt there when i got on breezy it just called debian application>debian then u could choose the same stuff that in sound internet etc
[12:14] <GamanaAm> darkheart, oh i see. from debian i was used to the fact that such a symlink is created automatically. the same goes for cpp?
[12:14] <jjesse> anyone know how to install lex and yacc on ubuntu, using ubuntu breezy server
[12:15] <jvai> go to the "edit" part of evolution, clik your default mail account, far right u can toggle it on & off
[12:15] <ivan> eh...how can I log in as a super user if I do not remember whatever password that I created w/ ubuntu
[12:15] <sunshine82> nalioth why does application need an area to access the same thing as the other topicd
[12:15] <jvai> i cant seem to send mail, thru gmail!
[12:16] <nalioth> sunshine82: there are lots of duplications in the menus
[12:16] <nalioth> cafuego: sunshine82: in all my ubuntu boxen i have a 'debian' menu
[12:16] <Tido> how do you run a .run? :P
[12:16] <n0odl3> does anyone use bbrb?
[12:16] <jenda> Tido: sudo sh blah.run
[12:17] <sunshine82> nalioth how can i check to see if it safe check my ports
[12:17] <djib> any one of you knows of uses cream ?
[12:17] <ivan>  eh...how can I log in as a super user if I do not remember whatever password that I created w/ ubuntu
[12:17] <h4zn> how does one install macromedia flash and shockwave player?
[12:17] <sunshine82> nalioth it not that i dont believe u but i need to use internet bankin and i need to make sure my computer is safe
[12:17] <nalioth> sunshine82: i'm not sure how to check your ports, but if your computer is shutting off by itself, i'd certainly run memtest for a day or so
[12:17] <ivan> I will not be able to install anything if I cannot log in as a super users, even though I reinstall the Unbuntu os
[12:17] <john_> hi, how do i mount my mp3 player? its a Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra
[12:17] <Coburn> how i can install packege in ubuntu , downloading from an internet point and then put in my pen drive ?????
[12:18] <nalioth> sunshine82: because it could be bad memory or your computer is overheating
[12:18] <epk> ivan, try recovery mode on startup
[12:18] <h4zn> how does one install macromedia flash and shockwave player?
[12:18] <Coburn> i have slowly computer
[12:19] <Belutz> ubotu, tell h4zn about flash
[12:19] <Coburn> sorry i have slowly connection i cant download wine for example
[12:19] <ivan> okay
[12:19] <cevizoglu> does netboot on ubuntu use tftp?
[12:19] <ivan> thanks a lot
[12:19] <djib> ivan, even if you loose your root password you still can change it
[12:20] <ivan> djib, how though?
[12:20] <Seven> !nvidia
[12:20] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:20] <djib> h4zn have you enabled universe et multiverse
[12:20] <Coburn> yes  ihave
[12:20] <ivan> by using the recovery mode?
[12:20] <cafuego> Coburn: Have a look at the 'apt-zip' command.
[12:21] <B|4ckm0r3> what about aptsh?
[12:21] <tellnes> hey all, just a little question, im running the latest ubuntu, installing ennemy teritorry, i have no sound in game, anyone know what sound system/plugin i might try?
[12:21] <djib> ivan, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#changerootpasswordforgotten
[12:21] <cafuego> Coburn: Or, if you download from somewhere else, the 'apt-move' command.
[12:21] <Coburn> yes but how i know the dipendencies
[12:21] <dseomn> where should dapper main bugs be submitted? launchpad or bugzilla?
[12:21] <ivan> djlib, thanks a lots
[12:22] <djib> Coburn, then go in synaptics and look for flash
[12:22] <cafuego> Coburn: You can only do that my checking the Package file manually.
[12:22] <djib> you will find somthing called flashplugin-nonfree Coburn
[12:22] <djib> this is what you want
[12:22] <cafuego> Coburn: packages.ubuntu.com would list them for each package.
[12:22] <Coburn> thanks dear friends
[12:22] <B|4ckm0r3> djib:  i found it buggy...i think the official www.macromedia.com plugin runs smoother
[12:23] <Coburn> and W ubuntu
[12:23] <djib> B|4ckm0r3, it's the same one, it's downloaded directly from www.macromedia.com ^^
[12:23] <B|4ckm0r3> ah ok!
[12:23] <n0odl3> h4zn you should be able to get the macromedia plugin through firefox
[12:23] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to build source code?
[12:23] <lsuactiafner> someone please priv msg cat me /etc/ld.so.conf
[12:23] <Coburn> great land new zeland cafuego
[12:24] <dabaR> n0odl3: yes, all programers here do.
[12:24] <dabaR> n0odl3: do you want to learn about building programs from source code?
[12:24] <daved> what can i use to play midi files?
[12:24] <djib> timidity
[12:24] <KinkoBlast> What's a good way to run DOS programs on Linux?
[12:24] <n0odl3> dabaR: yes i do
[12:25] <djib> if you dont have a midi card Daved
[12:25] <jenda> KinkoBlast: I've heard of FreeDOS
[12:25] <djib> Kingbahamut, dosbox
[12:25] <dseomn> KinkoBlast: wine
[12:25] <n0odl3> dabaR: oh by the way im really liking openbox
[12:25] <jenda> KinkoBlast: But wine's prolly better
[12:25] <KinkoBlast> jenda: FreeDOS is a whole other OS.
[12:25] <Oewyn> How do you make a script run with special permissions (ie run the script as the owner <root>)i thought it was chmod #### where the first number was the effective level, but maybe i'm wrong.
[12:25] <KinkoBlast> I thought Wine did the windows API, not DOS?
[12:26] <djib> no one uses cream ?
[12:26] <dseomn> KinkoBlast: I tried to run an old (works fine on DOS 5.30) game under wine and it worked
[12:26] <dabaR> n0odl3: do you want to learn about a particular package, or a generral overview of the process?
[12:26] <sunshine82> nalioth how did i get bad memory
[12:26] <dseomn> KinkoBlast: it started as w16 (3.1) and still supports 16bit progs
[12:26] <nalioth> sunshine82: you may not have bad memory, but it is one thing to check
[12:26] <jenda> KinkoBlast: I know - I think there's a way to run it in Linux, but nevermind - Wine is the solution, or DOSbox
[12:26] <lsuactiafner> please copy and paste me the contents of /etc/ld.so.conf
[12:26] <n0odl3> dabaR: well you see i got this program called torsmo but i need to compile the source code
[12:27] <n0odl3> dabaR: so i guess a general over view?
[12:27] <dabaR> KinkoBlast: did you try searching for a "dos emulator" in name and description through synaptic?
[12:27] <Seven> !nvidia
[12:27] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:27] <KinkoBlast> dabaR:No, Synaptic takes ages to start.
[12:27] <tellnes> hey all, just a little question, im running the latest ubuntu, installing ennemy teritorry, i have no sound in game, anyone know what sound system/plugin i might try?
[12:27] <dabaR> n0odl3: I would, looking at the situation think that you want to learn how to build torsmo from source code, right?
[12:27] <sunshine82> nalioth how did i check for bad memory
[12:27] <nalioth> jenda: erm 'dosemu' emulates DOS
[12:27] <voth> how well is the Dell Wireless 1450 (a/b/g) Dual-Band WLAN miniPCI Card supported under Breezy ?
[12:27] <avinoam> Hey guys- I have a USB disk that seems to have corrupted data, and now ubuntu won't read it... is there a way to format it?
[12:28] <nalioth> sunshine82: when you boot your machine, at the grub prompt you will see "memtest86" or something like that
[12:28] <dabaR> KinkoBlast: use apt-cache search?
[12:28] <dseomn> avinoam: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:28] <KinkoBlast> apt-cache search?
[12:28] <n0odl3> dabaR: yes
[12:28] <dseomn> KinkoBlast: from the terminal
[12:28] <dabaR> n0odl3: well, what version do you have?
[12:28] <jvai> shyt.. i lucked up on an orinoco gold.. on an ibm 600x
[12:28] <dabaR> KinkoBlast: try apt-cache search dos, or something.
[12:29] <djib> daved,  did you work it out ?
[12:29] <GamanaAm> weird. when i start admin tools, i get "wrong password" when i enter the pass for root, and when i enter the pass for my user, the application just closes. any ideas?
[12:29] <TestDummy> Hey, is there any sort of thing for Gnome that can pick a random background at a certain time interval?
[12:29] <avinoam> dseomn, it doesn't give me an option to format
[12:29] <dabaR> KinkoBlast: looking at the output, dosemu looks ok to try...
[12:29] <KinkoBlast> Thankls dabaR
[12:29] <zer0> how can i echo a line followed by 2 newlines (bash)? something like  echo "blah\n\n" ?
[12:29] <dabaR> KinkoBlast: its nothing - $20.
[12:29] <lsuactiafner> echo -n maybe i dont know
[12:30] <KinkoBlast> The check should be in your mail box :-P
[12:30] <lsuactiafner> or just echo twice afterwards
[12:30] <dseomn> avinoam: you have to go to the partitions tab
[12:30] <dabaR> zero use '
[12:30] <n0odl3> dabaR: I have breezy (5.10)
[12:30] <dabaR> n0odl3: what version of torsmo?
[12:30] <avinoam> dseomn, i did, it won't let me do anything
[12:30] <avinoam> dseomn, i'm in kubuntu
[12:31] <dseomn> avinoam: is it mounted? I think it won't let you format a mounted partition
[12:31] <avinoam> dseomn, says that there aren't any partitions on the disk
[12:31] <avinoam> dseomn, no
[12:31] <dseomn> avinoam: ok, go to the partitions tab and click create
[12:32] <avinoam> dseomn, that's what i'm trying to say, i can't click there- it's shaded grey
[12:32] <Fred> hey, what's the command to completely erase an external usb2 harddisk?
[12:32] <dseomn> avinoam: ok, sry, I thought you meant the format button was greyed
[12:32] <cafuego> Fred: easiest is 'mkfs'; format the whole thing.
[12:33] <Fred> thanks cafuego. does it need to be mounted first? if so, how do i do that?
[12:33] <avinoam> dseomn, so what do i do?
[12:33] <dseomn> avinoam: sounds like the drive is broken, you said it doesn't work anywhere?
[12:33] <cafuego> Fred: No, you don't need to mount it to format it.
[12:33] <dseomn> avinoam: are you familiar with opening a computer?
[12:33] <avinoam> dseomn, it's a usb disk!
[12:33] <dabaR> you actually need to unmount it:)
[12:33] <Fred> cafuego: ok thanks. what would be the path to it... like /dev/....
[12:34] <avinoam> dseomn, on key
[12:34] <iceman_> Besides Kde - gnome - xfce .. what other desktops are there for ubuntu
[12:34] <cafuego> Fred: No idea :-)
[12:34] <avinoam> dseomn, i did what cafuego said
[12:34] <Fred> ok thanks then
[12:34] <cevizoglu> on newworld PPC's, do you still need a separate bootstrap partition to dual-boot mac and ubuntu?
[12:34] <TestDummy> iceman_: Fluxbox? :o
[12:34] <cafuego> Fred: Try this: System -> Administration -> Disks -> Click the disk, choose the Partitions tab.
[12:35] <avinoam> dseomn, don't think that worked though
[12:35] <nalioth> iceman_: dozens of desktops are available
[12:35] <iceman_> nalioth where to find a list ?
[12:35] <dseomn> avinoam: so is it a memory stick or an external hard disk?
[12:35] <Fred> thanks cafuego :D
[12:35] <avinoam> dseomn, disk on key
[12:36] <iceman_> can you Apt-get flux box ....
[12:36] <xfelon> is ubuntu based off of debain?
[12:36] <dseomn> avinoam: ok, I to me disk = hard disk, not key, sry; I have no idea what to do
[12:36] <nalioth> iceman_: use synaptic
[12:36] <dseomn> xfelon: yes
[12:36] <avinoam> dseomn, let';s see, there seems to be a lost+found on the disk
[12:36] <xfelon> cool
[12:36] <avinoam> but it's locked!
[12:37] <dseomn> avinoam: it should be
[12:37] <avinoam> dseomn, how do i delete what's in there?
[12:37] <dseomn> are you familiar w/ the terminal?
[12:37] <avinoam> dseomn, yeah i formatted from there
[12:37] <djib> good  night
[12:37] <hamms> list
[12:37] <avinoam> dseomn, i couldn't cd into there, even with sudo
[12:37] <dseomn> avinoam: don't get rid of it, it's for fsck
[12:37] <avinoam> dseomn, i want to be able to read this disk on windows also
[12:37] <hamms> any know of a 64bit room?
[12:38] <dseomn> avinoam: cd is a shell builtin, you can't use it with sudo
[12:38] <avinoam> sorry about the W word
[12:38] <NightLord> does anyone know what i can use to play mp3s in rhythmbox, which can be gotten from the universal repositories?
[12:38] <dseomn> avinoam: then you need to use fat32
[12:38] <dseomn> avinoam: use "mkfs.vfat /dev/partition"
[12:39] <ColonelKernel> is there any way to view an ongoing ssh session
[12:39] <Fred> cafuego: there is no disks thing in system->admin :S
[12:39] <dseomn> ColonelKernel: if you control both ends, you can use screen, otherwise, the best you can do is strace (which will only help if your a programmer)
[12:39] <hamms> OK, here is my problem.... I can boot ubuntu 5.10 amd64 generic kernel noproblem, after i install SMP verion of kernel I cannot access my network card.... anyone have any ideas?
[12:40] <xfelon> can anyone help me install xmms
[12:40] <avinoam> dseomn, crap i can't unmount it now
[12:40] <xfelon> or xmms2 or wahtever?
[12:40] <Discipulus> xfelon, apt-get install xmms
[12:40] <dseomn> avinoam: cd out of the mountpoint and use "sudo umount /path/to/mountpoint"
[12:40] <NightLord> anyone?
[12:40] <xfelon> Discipulus what do i need to download?
[12:40] <Discipulus> xfelon, type apt-get install xmms
[12:41] <xfelon> i havent downloaded it
[12:41] <dseomn> NightLord: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:41] <NightLord> cool
[12:41] <xfelon> i dont see .tar.gz
[12:41] <xfelon> or wahtever
[12:41] <Discipulus> xfelon, that program will download it
[12:41] <dseomn> NightLord: it might not be legal in your country though
[12:41] <Discipulus> and install it
[12:41] <Discipulus> for you
[12:41] <NightLord> uk
[12:41] <avinoam> dseomn, crap i can't unmount it now
[12:41] <xfelon> oh really?
[12:41] <xfelon> i type that in xterm?
[12:41] <dseomn> NightLord: dunno, sry
[12:41] <NightLord> is it illegal in the uk?
[12:41] <avinoam> dseomn, woops ok i got it
[12:41] <avinoam> dseomn, mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[12:41] <NightLord> sod it
[12:41] <avinoam> /dev/sda: No such file or directory
[12:41] <Discipulus> xfelon, you type 'sudo apt-get install xmms'
[12:41] <NightLord> I don't have illegal music here
[12:41] <Discipulus> or 'sudo apt-get install xmms2'
[12:41] <Discipulus> or whatever
[12:41] <ColonelKernel> is apt-get for kernel linux-image or kernel-image in ubuntu?
[12:41] <dseomn> NightLord: it's a patent issue, not copyright
[12:42] <NightLord> bur[n] er I doubt it, but use the CVS
[12:42] <xfelon> lol wtf
[12:42] <dabaR> n0odl3: did you answer my last q ever?
[12:42] <xfelon> so terminal downlaods it for me?
[12:42] <bur[n] er> NightLord: why cvs?
[12:42] <n0odl3> dabaR: sorry i was trying to download it
[12:42] <dseomn> avinoam: it should be /dev/sda1 or something, not /dev/sda
[12:42] <walkerlechip> hello
[12:42] <NightLord> its easier in my opinion
[12:42] <n0odl3> dabaR: i dont know im timed out from the server but can you just explain the general process?
[12:42] <walkerlechip>  y a t'il des francais ?
[12:42] <avinoam> dseomn, woops
[12:42] <dseomn> !es
[12:42] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:42] <bur[n] er> NightLord: uhh... i want a stable codebase though ;)
[12:42] <Blake_Seven> Quick ? When I first login I get a message saying I have 1 messahe waiting. How do I view that message?
[12:42] <walkerlechip> les franciasvenez en pv svp :)
[12:43] <dseomn> !fr
[12:43] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[12:43] <walkerlechip> ouais
[12:43] <hamms> ANY one know of a SMP amd 64 bit tutorial
[12:43] <hamms> ?
[12:43] <avinoam> dseomn, yeah it is sda
[12:43] <walkerlechip>  nan besoin d'aide :)
[12:43] <dabaR> n0odl3: my question was what version of torsmo you are looking at installing.
[12:43] <xfelon> Discipulus i did that, now what?
[12:43] <NetDreamz> how do you "su" to change the permissions of a folder?
[12:43] <nalioth> dabaR: torsmo is dead. conky is the resurrection
[12:43] <avinoam> dseomn, i think i might have it
[12:43] <Discipulus> NetDreamz, sudo
[12:43] <tehdot> how do you check which display you're currently using? display 0.0, etc
[12:43] <Discipulus> xfelon, now it's installed
[12:44] <n0odl3> dabaR; .18
[12:44] <NightLord> bur[n] er: CVS is generally pretty stable anyway
[12:44] <Ekibyougami> oops
[12:44] <bur[n] er> NightLord: you follow rhythmbox devel?
[12:44] <Ekibyougami> i do so hate the wireless on off button being on the front of this laptop
[12:44] <NightLord> ope
[12:44] <Fred> cafuego: there is no disks thing in system->admin :S
[12:44] <nalioth> n0odl3: use conky instead. it's current, and based on what torsmo was
[12:44] <targetx> Ok this is driving me nuts. I legally own the game Doom 3 and I cannot get it to work on my computer (Quake 4 works fine) cause Doom 3 does NOT accept my cd key.. Could someone please help me?
[12:44] <n0odl3> nalioth: thank you
[12:45] <jenda> nalioth: I have a problem with my own 686 kernel now. I probably need to reinstall the NVIDIA driver, but the NVIDIA installer can't find my kernel source
[12:45] <avinoam> dseomn, i'm gonna go into W to see if this works
[12:45] <bur[n] er> targetx: that's an issue for www.idsoftware.com I think
[12:45] <NetDreamz> ok, how do I allow the root user to be able to login?
[12:45] <drewbie> Blake_Seven: try typing 'mail' in a terminal
[12:45] <n0odl3> naltioth: do you know how to get backgrounds on openbox. or a good program to do it with?
[12:45] <dseomn> avinoam: good luck
[12:45] <NightLord> bur[n] er: why? is there anything interesting going on with it?
[12:45] <hamms> sudo passwd root
[12:45] <bur[n] er> !tell NetDreamz about sudo
[12:45] <targetx> bur[n] er, why? linux version is unsupported
[12:45] <bur[n] er> targetx: it is?  i didn't realize
[12:45] <walkerlechip> j'ai un gros kiki
[12:45] <bur[n] er> NightLord: u said it's stable
[12:45] <nalioth> jenda: use synaptic to find and install it
[12:45] <Blake_Seven> bash: Mail: command not found
[12:46] <targetx> bur[n] er, yeah it's sad.. it USED to work though (on my ARch Linux instalation)
[12:46] <NetDreamz> I want to login to xwindows with the root user
[12:46] <xfelon> how do i close a frozen program?
[12:46] <NetDreamz> not just terminal
[12:46] <targetx> xkill
[12:46] <NightLord> I said CVS' in general are stable
[12:46] <dseomn> Blake_Seven: it should be 'mail' not 'Mail'
[12:46] <targetx> Blake_Seven, case matters
[12:46] <hobbz> Anyone experience a problem with "Lock Screen" under Hoary?
[12:46] <bur[n] er> NightLord: rrrrrrrrrrrrright
[12:46] <hamms> ps -ax |grep prog
[12:46] <hamms> kill -9 pid offrozenprog
[12:46] <NightLord> just because they aren't official releases, doesn't mean that theres anything wrong with them
[12:46] <n0odl3> nalioth: are you fimiliar with using openbox?
[12:46] <targetx> killall -9 nameofprog
[12:46] <Blake_Seven> Thanks but 'mail' is what I typed... no joy
[12:47] <bur[n] er> NightLord: new features... new bugs... new dependencies... etc.
[12:47] <targetx> Blake_Seven, no you typed Mail
[12:47] <jenda> nalioth: I think I have it installed, but I now found that synaptic can offer the precompiled module.
[12:47] <hamms> I WISH SOMEONE WOULD FIX 64 BIT SMP KERNEL
[12:47] <vertz> Hi, where can i find a nice sources.list?
[12:47] <targetx> hamms, we all have wishes. No use for upper case
[12:47] <hamms> lol
[12:47] <NightLord> meh
[12:47] <Blake_Seven> oh sorry
[12:47] <hamms> yea i know
[12:47] <walkerlechip> tu suces des pines ?
[12:47] <hamms> sniffle..
[12:47] <nalioth> n0odl3: no sir
[12:47] <walkerlechip> qui suce des pines ici ?
[12:47] <nalioth> walkerlechip: may we help you in english?
[12:47] <rsosborn> hello all
[12:48] <n0odl3> thank you
[12:48] <rsosborn> I need some help if someone doesn't mind giving a noob a hand
[12:48] <Blake_Seven> what else should I try or is there a referance I can view ?
[12:48] <walkerlechip> yes but my english is very bad :)
[12:48] <jenda> walkerlechip: je peut t'aider en francais
[12:48] <n0odl3> dabaR; sorry but i decided to use conky because for some reason im timed out from torsmo
[12:48] <walkerlechip> oo
[12:48] <KangooSport> hello everyone
[12:48] <n0odl3> dabaR: thank you anyway
[12:48] <Mr_Milenko> uh oh
[12:48] <rsosborn> When I install something in symatic manager I can't find it after I install it so I can run the program
[12:48] <hamms> dd if=/dev/zero of=/drivewithubuntu bs=1024M
[12:48] <nalioth> thats what i thought
[12:48] <rsosborn> I refreshed gnome
[12:48] <rsosborn> thinking that might help
[12:48] <rsosborn> does anyone have any ideas
[12:49] <bur[n] er> rsosborn: what app?
[12:49] <rsosborn> c++ complier
[12:49] <hamms> try ----------        rm -rf /
[12:49] <dabaR> n0odl3: both programs are in ubuntu.
[12:49] <jenda> nalioth: why did you ban walkerlechip?
[12:49] <rsosborn> I think its G++ is what its called
[12:49] <Mr_Milenko> nalioth
[12:49] <bur[n] er> rsosborn: and you're looking for a gui for it?
[12:49] <bur[n] er> rsosborn: there isn't one
[12:49] <rsosborn> oh
[12:49] <bur[n] er> rsosborn: it's a terminal based app
[12:49] <rsosborn> do I just go in the terminal and cl file.cpp ?
[12:50] <NightLord> can anyone recommend a good linux alternative to cubase?
[12:50] <vertz> HI! i have two problems, first i cant use "!" infront of commands in the terminal, and the other is that i cant find a good list of mirrors with programs on.. anyone?!
[12:50] <Fred> whats the terminal command to run a GUI-disk checker/formatter? there isnt one in any menu i can find :(
[12:50] <NightLord> vertz: use apt-get to install programs from
[12:50] <nalioth> jenda: if i'm not mistaken, walkerlechip was being very nasty
[12:50] <dseomn> NightLord: what does cubase do?
[12:50] <vertz> NightLord: yeah but i need to add some mirrors in the sources.list
[12:50] <NightLord> sequencer
[12:50] <NightLord> just uncomment  the universal repositories
[12:51] <NightLord> it has most of what you need
[12:51] <bur[n] er> rsosborn: gcc file.c app   (also use "man gcc" for the gcc manual)
[12:51] <jenda> nalioth: OK, got it now
[12:51] <kbrooks> hamms: who are you?
[12:51] <SP> HEy
[12:51] <SP> Hey*
[12:51] <drewbie> Blake_Seven: type 'man mail' for reference
[12:51] <hamms> I am me why?
[12:51] <rsosborn> so gcc is the command to complile
[12:51] <rsosborn> got ya
[12:51] <SP> I am having trouble with sound on Hoary...
[12:51] <rsosborn> thank you so much for your help
[12:51] <rsosborn> I'm new to linux and programming
[12:51] <rsosborn> so I'm trying to learn both in linux and windows
[12:51] <rsosborn> to be dynamic
[12:52] <bur[n] er> rsosborn: good call... research gtk when you go gui then... it's cross-platform (although qt 4 should be as well)
[12:52] <vertz> NightLord: not all i need : \
[12:52] <rsosborn> I will do
[12:52] <rsosborn> thanks
[12:52] <rsosborn> again
[12:52] <Blake_Seven> drewbie: no man mail referance... Have I installed properly I wonder
[12:52] <NightLord> well what you need?
[12:52] <lsuactiafner> please copy and paste me the contents of /etc/ld.so.conf
[12:52] <pooh__> anyone wanna help a newbie?
[12:52] <lsuactiafner> private msg me
[12:52] <vertz> NightLord: azureus now, and some more crap
[12:52] <nalioth> pooh__: i you ask a question
[12:53] <SP> I asked one, to busy :(
[12:53] <SP> Lol
[12:53] <NightLord> well, azureus is easy, just search for "Azureus .deb" on google
[12:53] <pooh__> i'm trying to install sharpmusique
[12:53] <lsuactiafner> bitchx users can /q lsuactiafner     and    /exec -o cat /etc/ld.so.conf
[12:53] <NightLord> woo! MP3s in rhythm box ^_^
[12:53] <vertz> NightLord: i used to install it from apt.. but i lost my sources.list
[12:53] <pooh__> .deb file doesn't seem to open in archive mgr
[12:53] <bur[n] er> good work NightLord
[12:54] <NightLord> now i need a sequencer
[12:54] <bur[n] er> pooh__: to install it... "gksudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb"
[12:54] <bur[n] er> bah
[12:54] <drewbie> Blake_Seven: you should have mail with a default install
[12:54] <rsosborn> hey burner
[12:54] <bur[n] er> pooh__: "xterm -e sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb"
[12:54] <rsosborn> another dumb question
[12:54] <rsosborn> lol
[12:54] <rsosborn> sorry bro
[12:54] <bur[n] er> !enter
[12:54] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:54] <bur[n] er> ;)
[12:54] <luisito> anyone has had problems using k3b with gnome interface like unusual failed burnings?
[12:54] <NightLord> xvidtune doesn't work in breezy :\
[12:55] <rsosborn> when writting code is it different than how I would difine it in windows
[12:55] <pooh__> thanks. i'll try that
[12:55] <bur[n] er> luisito: nope... check bugzilla?
[12:55] <bur[n] er> rsosborn: not really at the "basic" level
[12:55] <rsosborn> /c++ Program
[12:55] <rsosborn> /Richard S. Osborn
[12:55] <rsosborn> #include <iostream>
[12:55] <rsosborn> using namespace std;
[12:55] <rsosborn> int main ()
[12:55] <luisito> bur[n] er, bugzilla is for burn?
[12:55] <rsosborn> {
[12:55] <Blake_Seven> I installed breezy using the default install
[12:55] <rsosborn> cout << "Hello World" << endl;
[12:55] <rsosborn> return 0;
[12:55] <bur[n] er> !paste
[12:55] <rsosborn> }
[12:55] <ubotu> I heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:55] <hamms> I have a basic question....
[12:55] <rsosborn> so this should complie
[12:56] <Falstius> liba52 seems to crash the apt version of mplayer on my amd64 machine.. any suggestions? (I've got mplayer compiling in the background now)
[12:56] <bur[n] er> :)
[12:56] <bur[n] er> luisito: bugzilla is for everything... bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[12:56] <Fred> is there a GUI disk formatter? i cant find one but someone said there was one...
[12:57] <luisito> bur[n] er, i'll check thanks
[12:57] <hamms> me and bugzilla never get along.... I think it is co-dependancy
[12:57] <lsuactiafner> Falstius : cvs mplayer is better, developers recommend it... though current cvs is broken today.. might have been fixed already
[12:57] <ufc> hey is there eny good video ripper that I can but my clips to xvid?
[12:57] <NightLord> also, any plugins for wmas in rhythmbox?
[12:57] <bimberi> Fred: Apps -> System Tools -> Floppy Formatter
[12:57] <SEJeff> ufc: I think thoggen will do that
[12:57] <Fred> bimberi: i need to format a harddrive, not floppy
[12:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell NightLord about w32codecs
[12:58] <Falstius> is the cvs snapshot okay, or should I go direct to the daily?
[12:58] <pooh__> bur[n] er i tried that. got a password challenge. did that. now what?
[12:58] <ufc> SEJeff, thanks I thought it was only dvd rippe?
[12:58] <ufc> +r
[12:58] <drewbie> Blake_Seven: are you typing into a terminal?
[12:58] <NightLord> thanks nalioth and ubotu ^_^
[12:58] <SEJeff> ufc: I need sleep, you are right
[12:58] <bimberi> Fred: lol, i have  no idea why i went straight there, try GParted (in the same menu) :)
[12:58] <lsuactiafner> ncftpput ftp.puk.ac.za /outgoing/ /etc/ld.so.conf   <-- someone just please run that or paste me the contents of /etc/ld.so.conf my system is fscked because of the wrong contents
[12:58] <SP> Any good CD+RW formatters?
[12:58] <bur[n] er> pooh__: that's it... it's installed
[12:58] <lsuactiafner> am like depserate now..
[12:58] <pooh__> how does it start?
[12:58] <bur[n] er> SP: gnomebaker, nautilus, graveman, k3b
[12:59] <hamms> does any one here run a dual 64 bit machine with ubuntu installed on it? I need a link  to a tutorial
[12:59] <trappist> how to make an initrd for the kernel I'm trying to install?  I keep ending up with an initrd for my running kernel.  and while I'm at it, why didn't make install make my initrd for me?
[12:59] <SP> Thanks
[12:59] <Blake_Seven> Drewbie: Yes I am
[12:59] <nalioth> hamms: what kind of 64bit machine?
[12:59] <trappist> or make-kpkg for that matter
[12:59] <thresher> where do i go for newb questions that are lame
[12:59] <Falstius> trappist, do you need an initrd?
[12:59] <trappist> yes
[12:59] <nalioth> thresher: try here
[12:59] <BoD_SWAT> I installed Gforge and now I'm trying to remove it and I guess something went horribly wrong. When I try to apt-get remove the packages I get an error (process returned error code 1). Help?
[12:59] <Fred> bimberi: i dont have gparted in that menu :(
[01:00] <trappist> or, I assume I do.  I have a whole lot of modules.
[01:00] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : please upload or paste me the contents of /etc/ld.so.conf my system is really fscked
[01:00] <Falstius> trappist, you only need an initrd for modules that are required to read your filesystem (aka ext3 or reiserfs)
[01:00] <drewbie> Blake_Seven: try mailx
[01:00] <thresher> i am trying to install canon i560 printer drivers to ubuntu and the instructions i have found say to ./autogen.sh --program-suffix=i560 but I dont know how to make that work in terminal
[01:00] <bimberi> Fred: ah, you're running hoary?  if so you need to install it.
[01:00] <Falstius> if you compile in support for those, you don't need it.  In the simplest case atleast
[01:00] <luisito> nalioth, I could experiment any problems if I install the kubuntu-desktop and use it with ubuntu at the same time?
[01:00] <Falstius> if you're doing something fancy .. thats another matter.
[01:00] <Fred> ahhhh ok thanks a lot bimberi :d
[01:00] <Fred> :D
[01:01] <Blake_Seven> drewbie: no go as well
[01:01] <hamms> AMD optron mp, two of them... I can get SMP kernel installed... when i run SMP kernel my NIC fails to load....
[01:01] <trappist> Falstius: well my fs is compiled in.  so I just disable initrd support and rebuild?
[01:01] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: mine is easy  >>>  /usr/X11R6/lib
[01:01] <n0odl3> nalioth: is conky for 5.10?
[01:01] <targetx> hamms, then make sure you include the modules for your nic
[01:01] <n0odl3> im getting an error when i tried to dpkg it
[01:01] <nalioth> luisito: you can have xubuntu and kubuntu and use all the programs installed under any desktop you like
[01:01] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : thanks
[01:01] <nalioth> n0odl3: yes it is
[01:01] <ufc> SEJeff,  ist there eny alternative?
[01:01] <thresher> To build and install bjfilter:
[01:01] <thresher>         ./autogen.sh --program-suffix=<Printer Model Name>
[01:01] <thresher>         make
[01:01] <thresher>         make install
[01:01] <thresher>         * You can set the following <Printer Model Name>.
[01:01] <thresher>             i250 , i255
[01:01] <targetx> n0odl3, I can install conky just fine using apt-get install conky
[01:01] <thresher> what does that mean guys?
[01:02] <Fred> is the ubuntulinux.nl download thing down?
[01:02] <hamms> TargetX is that something that i need to do by hand or synaptic will do for me?
[01:02] <Falstius> trappist, you don't need to disable initrd support, just don't include an initrd line in grub.conf
[01:02] <bur[n] er> nalioth: i have issues iwth kubuntu-desktop... it overwrote my usplash!!!  and I can't get the "ubuntu" one back
[01:02] <targetx> hamms, Oh you are not compiling the kernel yourself?
[01:02] <Falstius> give it a try, if it doesn't work you can make the initrd later.
[01:02] <n0odl3> nalioth: oh its apt-get isntall
[01:02] <n0odl3> nalioth: i mean install
[01:02] <hamms> I was avoiding that, but i can if i need toooo
[01:02] <luisito> nalioth, no update problems of any kind, or packages problems?
[01:02] <bur[n] er> luisito: shouldn't be
[01:02] <trappist> Falstius: I did try that.  unable to mount rootfs.
[01:02] <targetx> hamms, I'd try compiling it yourself, allthough I would think the synaptic way should work
[01:03] <hamms> know of any good onlione tutorials for 64 SMP kernel building?
[01:03] <nalioth> bur[n] er: i know nothing about usplash, aren't there editors or something?
[01:03] <drewbie> Blake_Seven: well, you can try installing mailx by typing: sudo apt-get install mailx
[01:03] <targetx> hamms, no I'm sorry, I think it's exactly the same for i686 architecture
[01:03] <pooh__> how do i start sharpmusique?
[01:03] <lsuactiafner> hamms : the options ofr 64 SMP is easy enough.. its the other options that might confuse you
[01:03] <trappist> Falstius: I tried including the initrd to solve the problem.  used the wrong initrd and it doesn't contain the new /lib/modules, and I get a very different error.
[01:03] <targetx> hamms, except offcourse specifying another type of CPU in the CPU selection :)
[01:03] <Falstius> trappist: eh, then you probably compiled the fs driver as a module and you'll need an initrd.
[01:03] <nalioth> thresher: why are you pasting in here? didn't you read the /topic when you came in?
[01:03] <luisito> bur[n] er, oks..
[01:03] <bur[n] er> nalioth: afaik, it just comes in a kubuntu-artwork-usplash (or something) package and installed...  I couldn't get dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-usplash (or whatever the name) to bring the old one back
[01:03] <BluesRocker> Hi. I have problems with recording sound from microphone. How can I fix it?
[01:03] <nalioth> luisito: there should be no problems, they all run well installed together
[01:04] <trappist> Falstius: I triple-checked that the fs driver is built in, but I'm happy to build an initrd if I can figure out how to build a good one.
[01:04] <nalioth> bur[n] er: i'm having the same trouble, and it doesnt bother me a bit (i only reboot once every 3 weeks)
[01:04] <nalioth> bur[n] er: but there are ways to edit it
[01:04] <Falstius> trappist: it is a command line option to makeinitrd, but I don't remember the syntax.
[01:04] <lsuactiafner> initrd is evil.. just put what you need *
[01:04] <hamms> ok, well i have done one or two (linux)kernels in the past  by hand and i allways achive kernel panics.... I will give it a shot..... Thanks guys
[01:04] <luisito> bur[n] er, great!, thanks
[01:04] <trappist> Falstius: yeah and the man page isn't much help
[01:04] <luisito> nalioth, great!, thanks
[01:05] <targetx> I am going to kill some idsoftware developers.. or some ubuntu developers.. Doom 3 still doesn't accept my LEGAL & VALID cd key
[01:05] <bur[n] er> nalioth: yeah, i haven't put much effort either because, like you say, i only reboot once every 3 weeks or longer ;)
[01:05] <targetx> it works on Arch Linux and it worked before on Windows XP
[01:05] <lsuactiafner> hamms : best way for a newb is to take an ubuntu .config or slackware .config and then to enable the processor stuff
[01:05] <nalioth> luisito: i have x/k/ubuntu installed and have no trouble
[01:05] <lsuactiafner> hamms : from there only disable what you do know you do not need
[01:05] <thresher> nalioth
[01:06] <thresher> I asked where I a newb should go
[01:06] <hamms> thanks...
[01:06] <lsuactiafner> hamms : if you dont know exactly what something does dont change it and dont change any block devices or filesystems unless you add filesystems
[01:06] <BluesRocker> !sound
[01:06] <ubotu> well, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:06] <thresher> Please tell me where to go to being learning for a newb
[01:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell thresher about paste
[01:06] <hamms> tanks bye guys
[01:06] <bimberi> Fred: Bah, my apologies, gparted allows you to create the partition but as far as i can tell doesn't actually format it.  I've looked for a gui _formatter_ and can't see one atm.  (mkfs is the command btw)
[01:06] <nosilver4u> anyone know how to get all the buttons on a thinkpad to do what they are supposed to--suspend, hibernate, and all that?
[01:06] <lsuactiafner> thresher : just play with the system
[01:06] <Mr_Milenko> Ubuntu is by far the easiest distribution i've ever used
[01:06] <nalioth> thresher: HERE is where you go, but dont paste into the channel
[01:06] <Falstius> trappist: the wife says I have to go eat now, sorry I can't help
[01:06] <n0odl3> dabaR: is bbrb a debian standard proram to?
[01:06] <lsuactiafner> try not to break it
[01:06] <Blake_Seven>  Drewbie: all set Thanks a bunch
[01:06] <tehdot> when something says it is an X resource...where do you enter that information?
[01:06] <Mr_Milenko> and how is ubuntu updated to stable faster then Debian?
[01:07] <drewbie> Blake_Seven: :)
[01:07] <lsuactiafner> Mr_Milenko : because its not debian
[01:07] <thresher> So we could have both saved some time if you had politely siad, 'Newb thresher, it is polite Not to paste into the channel"  at which point I would have responded, I am sorry for being a newb, thank you for teaching me
[01:07] <andi5> hi. i am currently trying to jigdo ubuntu, but ran into missing "hw-detect-full_1.18ubuntu2_all.udeb". any hints here? thanks in advance!
[01:07] <targetx> bah.. go to college or something
[01:08] <Fred> bimberi: gparted does exactly what i want! i have a dead disk which i deleted all files from in windows, but windows wouldn't format the thing. thanks again :D
[01:08] <bimberi> Fred: great :)
[01:08] <pooh_> can someone please tell me how to start sharpmusique?
[01:08] <Korio> Is anyone running bitlbee?
[01:08] <lsuactiafner> Fred : you need to fdisk the disk
[01:09] <lsuactiafner> or cfdisk from linux
[01:09] <andi5> Korio: i did, now using gaim again :)
[01:09] <nalioth> pooh_: most things start from the command line with their name
[01:09] <Korio> andi5: i get some weird problem; :localhost. NOTICE AUTH :BitlBee-IRCd initialized, please go on
[01:09] <Korio> ERROR :Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to /var/lib/bitlbee/.
[01:09] <pooh_> nalioth: that's what i thought but nothing happens
[01:10] <Fred> how do i "eject" or whatever the disk? i dont wanna kill the thing again lol
[01:10] <andi5> Korio: so check what user bitlbee runs as and give it rw access to that dir ;)
[01:10] <nalioth> pooh_: did you read the docs at its website?
[01:10] <Korio> andi5: um how do i do that?
[01:10] <pooh_> nalioth: found no docs. just a .deb file
[01:10] <lsuactiafner> fred : dont pull the disk out when the pc is on.. and from nix type df anf see if its mounted, if mounted umount /dev/wahevet
[01:10] <andi5> Korio: is it in your inetd.conf
[01:11] <pooh_> nalioth: i get a command not found
[01:11] <Fred> thanks lsuactiafner :)
[01:11] <nalioth> pooh_: it has no website?
[01:11] <andi5> Korio: if you get it in ps, try ps axu
[01:11] <Korio> ....
[01:11] <Fred> and i know not to pull it out... someone else pulled it out of another pc; i just had to fix it ^_^
[01:11] <BluesRocker> can i reinstall sound driver somehow?
[01:11] <Korio> andi5: you confused me
[01:12] <andi5> Korio: iirc there are several ways to install bitlbee, i have no idea how ubuntu does it (currently trying to download it ;))
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> fred : just making sure
[01:12] <thresher> Does anyone run a canon printer on unguntu here?
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> ppl do silly things with pcs
[01:12] <thresher> ubuntu
[01:12] <Korio> andi5: i just apt-get install bitlbee ?
[01:12] <thresher> sorry for typo
[01:12] <Korio> andi5:  im in inetd.conf now what should i do?
[01:12] <pooh_> nalioth: it's on jon johanson's web site. i think he' the decss guy
[01:13] <nalioth> pooh_: ah, well. we dont advocate cracking in here, and i'm not sure anyway how to run it
[01:13] <andi5> Korio: is there something about bitlbee?
[01:13] <Korio> #:OTHER: Other services
[01:13] <Korio> 6667	stream	tcp	nowait	bitlbee	/usr/sbin/tcpd	/usr/sbin/bitlbee
[01:13] <lsuactiafner> pooh_ : whats this?
[01:14] <pooh_> nalioth: no, i'm not cracking. i'm a noob. don't know what the hell i'm doing
[01:14] <lsuactiafner> and you need to crack things to play dvds on your pc.. but might be wrong ...
[01:14] <pooh_> sharpmusique is supposed to enable iTunes functionality on linux
[01:14] <Korio> andi5: thats whats there
[01:14] <nalioth> pooh_: your program is a DRM cracker, my friend
[01:14] <nalioth> pooh_: very offtopic for #ubuntu
[01:15] <holycow> heh
[01:15] <pooh_> i just want to use my ipod w/ my linux box
[01:15] <holycow> you guys gotta start a petition to get crapple to actually support the open source stuff they derive their living from
[01:15] <pooh_> the d/l for the pkg was specifically for "breezy"
[01:15] <andi5> Korio: i would love to help you right now, but i have no debian running right now. first, check the rights of that dir by "ls -ld /var/lib/bitlbee", you know these masks?
[01:15] <lsuactiafner> holycow : no you should.
[01:15] <Korio> andi5: nope im pretty much not shure what im doing
[01:16] <andi5> Korio: what is the standard file manager?
[01:16] <andi5> nautilus?
[01:16] <holycow> lsuactiafner, i'm not an ipod user or a mac user trying to get their tech working on linux
[01:16] <holycow> and therefore, indeed, you guys (i.e. mac users) should
[01:16] <nalioth> andi5: for ubuntu? nautilus. kubuntu has konqueror
[01:16] <holycow> >_>
[01:16] <Korio> andi5: my file manager is XFE
[01:16] <pooh_> #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:16] <andi5> go to that directory and try to find out the rights/perms/permissions
[01:17] <NightLord> how well does ubuntu run on a mac?
[01:17] <andi5> Korio: but i guess this is some kind of bug, will look into that when i get it up and running :D
[01:17] <Korio> andi5: well im running xubuntu
[01:18] <nalioth> pooh_: type /j #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:18] <andi5> Korio: this is just another package selection, is not it?
[01:18] <Korio> andi5: no idea
[01:18] <andi5> nalioth: thanks for you answer btw :)
[01:19] <Korio> andi5: oh didnt understand the question, well xubuntu is ubuntu without gnome and all the bloat
[01:19] <Korio> it has xfce instead
[01:19] <iceman_> Help, got a app that start when i start kde, how to KIll it ...
[01:20] <ratschnowski> iceman_, ps afux|grep <appname>
[01:20] <ratschnowski> and then kill <processnumber>
[01:21] <thresher> can someone help me with basic installation instructions for a canon printer?
[01:22] <remyforbes777> whats a good firewall
[01:22] <andi5> Korio: two things you need to do i guess: 1) find out the user bitlbee runs as (ps axu | grep tcpd might help, maybe just the second after some connection, dunno), 2) adjust the rights for /var/lib/bitlbee; alternative: there is some bitlbee configuration file you should read (now) ;)
[01:22] <thresher> I have the file and instructions I am just having problems getting it to run properly
[01:22] <hobbz> Korio how does it run? Is it fast? and do most programs run with no issues?
[01:22] <Korio> hobbz: yea I love it
[01:22] <Korio> its sooo much nicer than gnome
[01:23] <Korio> the only downside is that the xfce file manager sucks :/
[01:23] <remyforbes777>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Tril0ggg
[01:23] <Oewyn> WHOOPS
[01:23] <Korio> rofl thx for the pass
[01:23] <Korio> :D
[01:23] <hobbz> I will check it out
[01:23] <Oewyn> change your password asap :-)
[01:23] <andi5> remyforbes777: i guess it is time to change your pw ;)
[01:23] <remyforbes777> shit
[01:23] <holycow> thresher, is it supported? canon is notoriously terribly supported under linux.  i presume you checked with www.linuxprinting.org right?
[01:23] <Oewyn> always type that in the system tab
[01:23] <remyforbes777> how the hell do i do that
[01:24] <Oewyn>  /msg nickserv HELP
[01:24] <BluesRocker> can anybody help with sound problem?
[01:24] <andi5> so, anybody that ownes "hw-detect-full_1.18ubuntu2_all.udeb", or can tell me how to get/workaround it?
[01:24] <Oewyn> alt-# changes which tab you are on
[01:24] <NightLord> is xine better than totem?
[01:25] <andi5> NightLord: i just read the there are totem-xine and totem-gstreamer, so i guess you cannot compare them ;)
[01:25] <NightLord> hmm
[01:25] <Htr> i have a wuestion
[01:25] <Htr> *question
[01:25] <_jason> Htr:  wask away :D
[01:25] <andi5> NightLord: but do it nevertheless :)
[01:25] <holycow> NightLord, gstreamer still seems to have problems with plugins and various decompression issues
[01:26] <Htr> does the new verion (5.10) support the i925x chipset
[01:26] <holycow> i don't think there are decss types of plugins to play encrypted dvds for example
[01:26] <NightLord> i know, i prefer it, i was askin opinions
[01:26] <yi> i'm having a weird problem, i have multiverse enabled but i don't see to be able to install the acroread package
[01:26] <yi> even so it is in multiverse, any ideas?
[01:26] <NightLord> still don't like totem, xine runs alot better
[01:26] <holycow> with totemxine you can however install win32codecs to watch the encrypted stuff
[01:26] <nalioth> yi: what does it tell you?
[01:26] <apokryphos> yi: you're not enabling it correctly then
[01:26] <holycow> ah oki :) sorry
[01:26] <yi> nalioth: can't find the package
[01:26] <apokryphos> yi: pastebin your sources.list
[01:26] <yi> apokryphos: other packages from multiverse get installed fine
[01:27] <NightLord> what about divx? hows that go in linux?
[01:27] <remyforbes777> woo hoo
[01:27] <apokryphos> yi: what architecture are you on?
[01:27] <remyforbes777> changed it
[01:27] <yi> http://pastebin.com/407954
[01:27] <yi> apokryphos: amd64
[01:27] <nalioth> bingo
[01:27] <holycow> xine better than totem? i would say no, but i personally would opinion that vlc simply works flawlessly imho
[01:27] <remyforbes777> who showed me how to do that, I want to thank them
[01:27] <Htr> hello?
[01:27] <hobbz> anyone know of a good comic book reader for linux
[01:27] <hobbz> ?
[01:27] <NightLord> since it runs like a bitch on windows, with audio 6 seconds out of sync
[01:27] <apokryphos> yi: no acroread for amd64
[01:27] <NightLord> erm, webcomincs hobbz?
[01:27] <yi> um
[01:27] <Htr> does the new verion (5.10) support the i925x chipset
[01:27] <yi> why is that
[01:27] <hobbz> yes, the cbr files.
[01:27] <apokryphos> who knows
[01:27] <yi> it should execute 32bit binaries just fine
[01:27] <NightLord> not a clue ^_^
[01:28] <Htr> darn
[01:28] <holycow> NightLord, divx is supported with the win32codecs running either xine or totem-xine
[01:28] <dabaR> they are different programs. they are also open source, so if one was better, they would get code from it to make theirs the same, or everyone would use the best otherwise, and the rest would disappear from usage.
[01:28] <apokryphos> yi: I'm not saying it's not possible to package; I'm just saying it wasn't packaged
[01:28] <holycow> works fine
[01:28] <Htr> i cant find one distro that supports my hardware
[01:28] <remyforbes777> hobbz: where is there online comics
[01:28] <apokryphos> holycow: no w32codecs needed for divx, in fact. Just xine/mplayer should play 'em fine
[01:28] <nalioth> hobbz: search synaptic for 'oomic' or 'cbr'
[01:28] <hobbz> nalioth, cool thanks
[01:28] <Roadkill> where can I find a good sources.list?
[01:28] <apokryphos> !tell Roadkill about sources
[01:28] <Htr> anyone know of a distro that DOES supoort the i925x chipset
[01:28] <dabaR> Roadkill: ask the bot
[01:28] <Roadkill> for breezy...
[01:29] <Roadkill> the bot?
[01:29] <NightLord> whats an oomic? :P
[01:29] <apokryphos> Roadkill: check your /msg  from ubotu
[01:29] <nalioth> Roadkill: please turn that off
[01:29] <holycow> apokryphos, divx isn't open source, have the codecs been reverse engineered?
[01:29] <Roadkill> Htr> shouldn't pose any problem
[01:29] <apokryphos> holycow: no idea
[01:29] <Htr> so then it will run on ubuntu
[01:29] <remyforbes777> i thought you set a static IP in the interfaces config file
[01:29] <andi5> how can a format be open source?
[01:29] <bur[n] er> w00t... new rhythmbox is compiled and .deb is made! :)
[01:30] <bur[n] er> nalioth: thanks for that build-dep command hte other day, it totally helped
[01:30] <NightLord> cool! Must download!
[01:30] <jayson> what dir are startup files kept in?
[01:30] <nalioth> bur[n] er: i'm full of neat stuff
[01:30] <remyforbes777> do you have to restart the network daemon in order for that to take affect?
[01:30] <Roadkill> and any Intel / Nforce controllers they are supporting it....
[01:31] <bur[n] er> bah, my package name is off for some reason though... it's called rhythmbox-0.9.1 instead of just rhythmbox :\
[01:31] <Roadkill> apokryphos> thanks
[01:31] <Htr> hey roadkill
[01:32] <bur[n] er> NightLord: let me knwo if it works for you (regardless of the version in hte name)
[01:32] <cafuego> holycow: Nore or less. What do you get when you reverse 'divx' ?;-)
[01:32] <Roadkill> ?
[01:32] <apokryphos> yi: and btw, your multiverse repository *isn't* enabled
[01:32] <Htr> will thsi kernel have support for audio
[01:32] <Htr> or will i have to comp;ile my own
[01:32] <Roadkill> should be ...
[01:32] <holycow> cafuego, heh, clever
[01:32] <Roadkill> what type of board?
[01:32] <Htr> ASUS P5AD2-E pre
[01:32] <Roadkill> exact model...
[01:32] <Roadkill> I think you will
[01:33] <Htr> what about an X800
[01:33] <Roadkill> and you can run MAC OS X x86 on it...
[01:33] <Htr> i hate unix based macs
[01:33] <Roadkill> I saw the drivers 2day... accidently came across them...
[01:33] <jayson> what dir keeps startup files?
[01:33] <Roadkill> it's heaven dude...
[01:33] <Ropechoborra> Hi :)
[01:33] <Roadkill> you should try it on x86...
[01:33] <Htr> i have been getting kernel panic errors from every distro i try
[01:34] <cafuego> Htr: The ATI closed-souce drivers should support that. They're not the best piece of software ever written, though.
[01:34] <Htr> so il write over the iamge and boot and it works fine
[01:34] <Htr> unitl ii try to run the installer
[01:34] <ArdieM> good evening... my graphiccard doesnt want to run under breezy. i followed the wiki but nothing happens. @hoary it worked just fine. (ATI)
[01:34] <ArdieM> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ATI
[01:34] <Roadkill> what type of card?
[01:34] <ArdieM> radeon 9800
[01:35] <Htr> thansk for all the help you guys are cool
[01:35] <dabaR> Htr: you do not need to tell us, we know.
[01:36] <jayson> can someone tell me what dir startup files are kept in?
[01:36] <dabaR> jayson: what are startup files?
[01:36] <Htr> you know i could just have used SVSNICK abd made you all look like noobs
[01:36] <Roadkill> Ardie> what model?
[01:36] <jayson> I don't know, it is in mysql install instructions
[01:36] <Htr> but i decided not to because you were so polite
[01:36] <dewd_> how to turn off gdm and boot into the naked shell only?
[01:37] <jayson> put mysql.server where system startup files are located for automatic launching of mysql server
[01:37] <ArdieM> Roadkill, u mean that x500 thingy .. idunno atm. but i can say that it just worked with hoary
[01:37] <hobbz> kdewd cntrl+alt+backspace
[01:37] <dabaR> jayson: how did you install mysqlserver?
[01:37] <Htr> see ya
[01:37] <dewd_> hobbz, not that, I mean turning off the gdm for good
[01:38] <jayson> source
[01:38] <hobbz> You just want to boot in cli
[01:38] <hobbz> ?
[01:38] <dewd_> yep
[01:38] <hobbz> adjust inetd to runlevel 3
[01:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dewd_ about bum
[01:39] <lsuactiafner> dewd_
[01:39] <lsuactiafner> dewd_ : chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[01:39] <lsuactiafner> as sudo
[01:39] <dewd_> lsuactiafner, nice shorthand. thanks
[01:40] <lsuactiafner> runlevels are also nice.. but i prefer runlevel 3 and cli till when i need gui
[01:40] <lsuactiafner> err default runlevel whatever it is on ubuntu
[01:40] <lsuactiafner> and then i use cli to start gi
[01:41] <Snifffurt> hi
[01:41] <apokryphos> hi there
[01:41] <pizux> is loopback install on obonto default?
[01:42] <ArdieM> Roadkill, where can i look for the radeon 9800 AIW model?
[01:43] <Roadkill> try hoary...
[01:43] <apokryphos> pizux: list of things on the ISO: http://releases.ubuntu.com/breezy/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.list
[01:43] <Roadkill> apt upgrade while xserver is running...
[01:43] <hobbz> dewd I suppose you could edit /tc/grub/menu.lst also
[01:43] <ArdieM> Roadkill, what chu talkin bout? i am running breezy
[01:44] <Roadkill> you said you were having problems with the driver no?
[01:44] <dewd_> hobbz, I see. thanks
[01:45] <ArdieM> Roadkill, yes they dont load. i am using the mesa atm.
[01:45] <ArdieM> but why should they work in hoary and in brezy not?
[01:45] <Roadkill> ..
[01:46] <DonVincenzo> Hi, when Ilaunch acroread, I see thesplash screen, then nothing, anyone know why ?
[01:46] <ArdieM> DonVincenzo, try rnning it from a console
[01:46] <ArdieM> then ull probably see an error msg
[01:47] <DonVincenzo> no, nothing
[01:47] <DonVincenzo> just the splash screen, then it vanishes
[01:47] <DonVincenzo> and nothing more happen
[01:47] <ArdieM> no info in the console?
[01:48] <BoD_SWAT> I just partitioned a 200GB HD to ext3. How come it says: 9.62GB used?
[01:50] <holycow> anyone know in which dir the splash image for gnome startup is held in?
[01:50] <holycow> gconf does not alude to the actual path of the file ... weird
[01:51] <BoD_SWAT> holy_cow, I think it's /usr/share/pixmaps/splash
[01:52] <willuknight> anyone know what to do when it says "it says "failed to install base system""
[01:52] <holycow> ah!
[01:52] <holycow> thx bod!
[01:52] <BoD_SWAT> holy_cow, you're welcome (just call me SWAT :P)
[01:53] <holycow> heh :)
[01:53] <BoD_SWAT> the nick "SWAT" was taken :(
[01:54] <Snifffurt> is it possible to link the /etc/passwd and so from my amd64 to my 32bit choot, instead of cping them? this would be allot more handy than copying in the case of any changes in one of these files.
[01:56] <Roadkill> ArdieM may this will help you out ... http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[01:57] <ArdieM> Roadkill, lol
[01:57] <holycow> well allrighty, lets test the new image :)
[01:59] <ssdd534> anyone know why i cant use lm_sensors or y it isnt in make menuconfig????
[02:00] <nekron> how i close the X using shell?
[02:00] <nekron> close the gnome..
[02:00] <yubimusubi> nekron: killall -9 gdm
[02:00] <Roadkill> init 3
[02:00] <bimberi> nekron: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[02:00] <lucy> why doesnt my cheap laptop play cd's is it because it has linux?
[02:01] <yubimusubi> lucy: my cheap laptop plays cds.
[02:01] <dewd_> hehe
[02:01] <skreet> Anyone here proficient with Ubuntu run-levels?
[02:01] <yubimusubi> lucy: hm... I don't use ubuntu...otherwise I'd offer help
[02:02] <bob2> skreet: just ask your question...
[02:02] <Cambo> playing cd's is a function that you have to pay extra money for.
[02:02] <Cambo> lol
[02:02] <bob2> skreet: also, it's documented in /usr/share/doc/sysvrc/
[02:02] <yubimusubi> Cambo: rofl
[02:02] <skreet> bob2, Thanks, I'll check that out.
[02:02] <yubimusubi> hi shatter_device
[02:02] <shatter_device> Hi
[02:02] <lucy> whe I try to play a cd it says it cant open
[02:03] <Cambo> lucy: are you running ubuntu?
[02:03] <lucy> yes
[02:03] <yubimusubi> lucy: are you using xmms?
[02:03] <Cambo> have you tried umount /dev/cdrom
[02:03] <lucy> im not shure
[02:04] <Cambo> use that command from the terminal.
[02:04] <theconartist> :o
[02:04] <lucy> im sorry I really dont know how to work with linux
[02:04] <colen> your not the only one
[02:04] <yubimusubi> lucy: yes, windows creates a virtual filesystem for the audio cd...but linux is better than that, and can read in RAW mode.
[02:05] <colen> this is my first time in linux ever
[02:05] <shatter_device> Hello, my alsamixer doesn't work, alsaconf doesn't work, and that xmms can't play sound, but I can here sound on Gaim
[02:05] <Distro^Junkie> congrats on getting here
[02:05] <colen> thank you
[02:05] <colen> I have a lot to learn though
[02:05] <crimsun> shatter_device: cat /proc/asound/modules
[02:06] <skreet> bob2, Is there a way to determine my current runlevel?
[02:06] <Distro^Junkie> well here is a great place to ask questions colen
[02:06] <bob2> skreet: "runlevel"
[02:06] <skreet> bob2, The obviousness is quite painful, Thanks!
[02:06] <bob2> skreet: it's going to be 2, tho
[02:06] <colen> distrojunkie - good, because I have about a million of them
[02:06] <bob2> skreet: are you perchance doing something involving restarting X?
[02:07] <skreet> bob2, No, installing some services. DDClient and TSServer to be exact.
[02:07] <bob2> skreet: "update-rc.d foo defaults" will just add foo to be started in all the normal runlevels
[02:07] <skreet> bob2, I'm fairly fluent in runlevels in Gentoo, but they provide the rc-update script, which I dont seem to see a simliiar program in Ubuntu.
[02:07] <lucy> is there a site I can search and get a hint how to work with ubuntu
[02:07] <skreet> bob2, And I spoke too soon.
[02:08] <colen> is this a good distro to start with?
[02:08] <skreet> colen, The best.
[02:08] <colen> for someone who knows know linux at all that is
[02:08] <bob2> lucy: wiki.ubuntu.com has lots of documentation, and is searchable
[02:08] <CarlFK_> colen - for someone who nose know Linxu two ;)
[02:08] <colen> I installed linspire a couple weeks back but that didnt really do it for me... I liek this much better already
[02:08] <skreet> colen, Ubuntu is the easiest distro to work with, and one of the easiest to set up
[02:08] <yubimusubi> colen: gentoo is fun
[02:08] <skreet> yubimusubi, Thats mean.
[02:08] <CarlFK_> and #ubuntu is a 24x7 party ;)
[02:09] !Md:*! oops! one of our servers is missing. beware of Cogent hosting
[02:09] <nalioth> lucy: help.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <yubimusubi> skreet: what? I've only used linux for six months, and gentoo was my easiest install...
[02:09] <yubimusubi> lol
[02:09] <Distro^Junkie> yubimusubi: yea its fun if all you want to do is sit and watch your pc compile 24/7
[02:09] <skreet> yubimusubi, Liar.
[02:09] <yubimusubi> Distro^Junkie: hm...I wish that was true...
[02:09] <colen> so ubuntu is a good choice for me then (I know nothing about linux).  I want a distro that wont limit me, and that once I learn and experienced I can stick with...
[02:10] <bob2> colen: yes
[02:10] <yubimusubi> Distro^Junkie: cause I really like what compiling looks like...but I'm only compiling about .01% of the time...
[02:10] <nalioth> colen: you'll be fine with ubuntu
[02:10] <lucy> anyone a UIC student that can help
[02:10] <yubimusubi> skreet: I'm a fast learner and I can read documentation :P
[02:10] <skreet> colen, I find Ubuntu isnt hard to get underneith like alot of distros that tote ease of use.
[02:10] <tom_> Hey, I am having problems running Synaptic, when I run it it flashes on for a millisecond then flashes off, this is what terminal reports: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3708
[02:10] <yubimusubi> but ubuntu is fun also.
[02:11] <Falstius> I think knoppix is the easiest "install" but I haven't tried ubuntu live.
[02:11] <colen> is there a site with the very basic commands that I should be starting with?
[02:11] <yubimusubi> Falstius: does knoppix actually install?
[02:11] <Distro^Junkie> hopefully my system won't go nuts updating through apt to breezy from hoary
[02:11] <bob2> yubimusubi: yes
[02:11] <bob2> unfortunately
[02:11] <yubimusubi> bob2: lol
[02:12] <skreet> colen: you mean for command line linux, i'm sure theres something.
[02:12] <skreet> colen: Basic file-management is similiar to DOS, if you're familiar.
[02:12] <bimberi> !cli
[02:12] <ubotu> it has been said that cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[02:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell colen about cli
[02:13] <yubimusubi> cli is teh r0x0rz
[02:13] <colen> years ago in college I did a little unix, but thats it.  so I'm pretty much starting from scratch
[02:13] <bimberi> bob2: i'll bite :)  Why "unfortunately"?
[02:13] <nalioth> colen: ubotu just sent you some links that may help you a bit
[02:14] <bob2> bimberi: because then people think they have Debian and insist they get help from Debian users
[02:14] <tsume> oi bob2
[02:14] <bimberi> bob2: yep, i can understand that
[02:14] <tsume> erm..
[02:14] <yubimusubi> woah, knoppix != debian...
[02:15] <bob2> tsume: howdy
[02:15] <bimberi> bob2: ... the annoyance of it that is :)
[02:15] <tsume> I'm having a small problem here. I've installed inetd, and telnetd. I've done /etc/init.d/inetwhatever-inetd start. Still no telnet access :(
[02:15] <bob2> uh
[02:16] <bob2> any plan involving installing telnet is DOOMED
[02:16] <leonel> is there something like  bugs.debian.org   with  ubuntu ?
[02:16] <tsume> bob2: hush :P
[02:16] <tsume> bob2: I'll install stelnet once telnet works
[02:16] <bob2> leonel: bugzilla.ubuntu.com, launchpad.net
[02:16] <bimberi> leonel: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[02:16] <bob2> tsume: really really really really don't do that
[02:16] <leonel> thanks
[02:16] <bob2> tsume: unless yo're running a MUD or something
[02:17] <tsume> bob2: router is broken(cisco) and doesn't let through enough for ssh ;)
[02:17] <Falstius> I had to install telnet for my dad because a company he works with only supports remote login by telnet and only as root.  I almost refused out of principle.
[02:18] <HaShofet> hi guys...how do you set a program to run as a service in ubuntu?
[02:18] <yubimusubi> telnet as root...
[02:18] <Cashel> can anyone recommend a nice pop3 panel notifier?
[02:18] <shatter_device> http://rafb.net/paste/results/9oOmk434.html
[02:18] <BlueTsunami> Hi
[02:18] <grodius> how to I transfer files from an NTFS partition (has no OS on it)
[02:18] <bob2> HaShofet: it's easier if you tell us what you're trying to do
[02:19] <colen> I have a quick question...  what is the difference between root and the account (the account after I installed)?  when do I want to be using root, and when do I want to be using my account?
[02:19] <BlueTsunami> Has anyone tried to install x64 Version of  Ubuntu under VMware? Its giving me a "Your CPU does not support Long Mode". Yet I have an AMD 64 3000+ (Venice)
[02:19] <bob2> BlueTsunami: uh
[02:19] <yubimusubi> colen: you never want to use root.
[02:19] <bob2> BlueTsunami: does vmware really emulate a amd64 CPU?
[02:19] <apokryphos> colen: there should be no need to ever use the actual root account
[02:19] <BlueTsunami> I thought it did lol
[02:19] <bob2> colen: you don't ever use the root account on ubuntu
[02:19] <Cashel> grodius: mount -t ntfs /dev/??? /mnt/whatever  then  cp <source> <dest>
[02:19] <BlueTsunami> I figured it was an emulation thing
[02:19] <yubimusubi> colen: root is only for installing new files, and doing administration; usually through sudo now.
[02:20] <BlueTsunami> I'll check the settings......damnit...simple enough
[02:20] <colen> I think i should go do some reading before bothering you guys
[02:20] <ouinouin_> vmware can't emulate another cpu
[02:20] <bob2> BlueTsunami: settings?
[02:20] <BlueTsunami> I've read VMware can run 64bit OSs
[02:21] <bob2> BlueTsunami: I'd be very very very surprised if vmware emulates amd64
[02:21] <BlueTsunami> hmmmm
[02:21] <bob2> BlueTsunami: anyway, ask them
[02:21] <BlueTsunami> Yesh
[02:21] <ouinouin_> the cpu under vmware is the same on your computer
[02:21] <BlueTsunami> thanks!
[02:21] <BlueTsunami> Thats what I was thinking ouinouin
[02:22] <ouinouin_> if you have a 64 bit your virtual machines work with a 64 bits
[02:22] <grodius> cashel sorry I dont understand can you claify
[02:22] <woddf2> /leave
[02:22] <e-sin> using proftpd as my sever, i've set up an account for a friend and put symbolic links in his home directory.  while on the server, if he's in the dirs i linked to and issues a CDUP, it takes him to the dir's parent folder, not back to ~.  how can i fix this?
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> tell him not to use ..
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> :D
[02:24] <e-sin> i was hoping for something a little more secure ;)
[02:24] <Cashel> grodius: sure... ok first you need to know what device the NTFS drive is on. If it was the primary slave drive, 2nd partition, on and IDE/ATA type drive, it would be /dev/hdb2, pri master, 1st part, /dev/hda1 , and so on.. you also need a mount point which is just an empty directory.. lets say /mnt/D is that point.. then you would simply issue the command:   sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb2 /mnt/D
[02:25] <BlueTsunami> oh ok
[02:25] <BlueTsunami> Update
[02:25] <shatter_device> alsamixer doesn't work, alsaconf doesn't work, and that xmms can't play sound, but I can here sound on Gaim, I did what crimsun said and got this link :   http://rafb.net/paste/results/9oOmk434.html    I am really new at linux,  I just got it installed on my computer about 3 days ago
[02:25] <BlueTsunami> VMware 64bit is experimental
[02:25] <BlueTsunami> So only 32 bit distrobutions can be used for now
[02:26] <Cashel> grodius: which would make /mnt/D have all the stuff that ntfs drive does... cp is the linux command for 'copy' , so cp /mnt/D/somefile.zip /home/grodius/whateverdir/ would copy a file...
[02:26] <yubimusubi> BlueTsunami: what if you compile to a 64 bit machine?
[02:26] <ouinouin_> ok
[02:26] <Cashel> grodius: man cp  and  man mount  for more info..
[02:26] <BlueTsunami> That should be fine yubimusubi but VMware won't take it
[02:26] <BlueTsunami> I'm trying to run Ubuntu under XP so I have access to both at once
[02:26] <BlueTsunami> With VMware
[02:27] <yubimusubi> BlueTsunami: ...why don't you just mount your windows partition onto ubuntu?
[02:27] <Zukero> is there a libasound-dev package for ubuntu ?
[02:27] <Zukero> version 1.0.9-2
[02:27] <tsume> funny how many people pireate VMware
[02:27] <tsume> I'm curious how they make money off of it
[02:27] <BlueTsunami> Companies. LOL
[02:27] <yubimusubi> shatter_device: Zukero means type: apt-cache search libasound-dev
[02:27] <BlueTsunami> They do it legit for testing
[02:28] <yubimusubi> BlueTsunami: ah, I see.
[02:28] <shatter_device> Ohhhhhh I see thank you
[02:28] <Zukero> yubimusubi : my ubuntu box is not connected to net
[02:28] <charles_> is there a way to render a page and also have a file download (at the same time)... like they click a link and it render a page and the file pops up to download?
[02:28] <weijie90> how do i change the mime type of a file?
[02:28] <yubimusubi> Zukero: aww, why not?
[02:29] <grodius> cashel if mine is a partition on the drive linux is running on (my only HD- SATA) what do i put in?
[02:29] <Zukero> because of hardware restrictions :)
[02:29] <Zukero> that's why i need to download only the .deb
[02:29] <Zukero> and
[02:29] <Zukero> at debian.org
[02:29] <erickUbuntu> gudmorning
[02:29] <Zukero> they have version 1.0.9-3
[02:29] <Zukero> and 1.0.8-x
[02:29] <Cashel> grodius: does windows call the ntfs drive C ?
[02:30] <Cashel> grodius: if so, and you installed windows first, /dev/hda1 is the first with IDE.. not sure if sata is different tho...
[02:30] <yubimusubi> Zukero: ah...
[02:30] <Zukero> ..
[02:30] <IcemanV9> BlueTsunami: can you get a test PC? and slam Ubuntu on it? :)
[02:31] <weijie90> ubuntu is slow sometimes...
[02:31] <BlueTsunami> Yes I can
[02:31] <Zukero> is there an equivalent to http://packages.debian.org/ for ubuntu ?
[02:32] <ColonelKernel> Zukero, packages.ubuntu.com
[02:32] <grodius> cashel its NTFS formatted so it could be viewed by windows, but It doesnt actually have windows on it
[02:32] <Cashel> grodius: type mount alone at a command prompt, and you should see / mount on /dev something... so whatever format that is..
[02:32] <Zukero> ok, that simply :)
[02:32] <Zukero> thx
[02:32] <Zukero> well
[02:32] <Zukero> no
[02:32] <Zukero> doesn't exist
[02:33] <Cashel> grodius: System > Administration > Disks might be helpfull to you then..
[02:33] <tsume> so, does anyone know how to turn on telnet? because the usual isn't working :)
[02:34] <Falstius> I found a very nice app for windows that allows mounting of ext3 drives with read and write support.  I don't have to format "shared" drives fat anymore.
[02:34] <Madpilot> Zukero: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ <-- it seems to exist for me
[02:34] <Zukero> oh
[02:34] <grodius> cashel theres a /dev/sda6 on /type ext3, that is my linux partition am i right? the other one is /.dev on type unknown
[02:34] <Cashel> grodius: yea thats linux
[02:34] <Zukero> raaaaaa
[02:34] <Zukero> .com
[02:34] <Zukero> notorg
[02:35] <Zukero> silly me
[02:35] <Cashel> grodius: System > Administration > Disks  will tell you whats what in X
[02:35] <yubimusubi> hey, how do I restart alsa in ubuntu? is it /etc/init.d/alsasound restart?
[02:35] <Zukero> hmmm
[02:35] <Zukero> no libasound on it
[02:36] <Zukero> no libasound-dev on it
[02:36] <Madpilot> Zukero: can you please not use your ENTER key as punctuation? Thanks...
[02:36] <Zukero> k
[02:36] <grodius> cashel hmm i dont have a disks in system-admin
[02:36] <yubimusubi> (erm, sorry I'm not on a ubuntu box...I'm trying to help a friend)
[02:36] <Cashel> ohhh mabye that just breezy
[02:36] <geargolem> hello
[02:37] <tsume> Madpilot: don
[02:37] <tsume> t
[02:37] <tsume> you
[02:37] <tsume> like
[02:37] <tsume> this?
[02:37] <tsume>  :P ;)
[02:37] <Cashel> grodius: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[02:37] <dmlinux> Where are the system icons stored>?
[02:38] <Cashel> dmlinux: /usr/share/icons in breezy...
[02:38] <Zukero> found it, thx guys
[02:38] <Cashel> dunno about hoary...
[02:38] <dmlinux> cashel thakns
[02:39] <geargolem> hello, I have a second hd that I store files on.  I tried to mount it  but it isn't showing the files.
[02:39] <yubimusubi> hey, how to restart the alsa sound daemon?
[02:39] <grodius> cashel ok ok cool let me see
[02:39] <yubimusubi> please? heheh
[02:39] <IcemanV9> killall alsa?
[02:40] <rene> quit
[02:40] <crimsun> IcemanV9: alsa isn't a process
[02:40] <yubimusubi> IcemanV9: thanks, but I meant, for instance, the startup daemone
[02:40] <yubimusubi> daemon* damn typos...
[02:40] <grodius> cashel ok i have sda5 as my NTFS i do /dev/sda5 correct?
[02:40] <geargolem> must I edit the fstab and reboot to see the files on hd2?
[02:41] <Cashel> grodius: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /some/empty/directory
[02:41] <Cashel> geargolem: no, just mount it
[02:42] <tsume> telnet on
[02:42] <tsume> yipp
[02:42] <Cashel> geargolem: also mount -a mounts everything set for auto in fstab... in linux one rarely needs to reboot :)
[02:42] <IcemanV9> well, yubimusubi .. killall <process>; it will restart whatever the process
[02:43] <geargolem> Cashel, sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hd2 is what I did but it says it is 'busy'
[02:43] <Cashel> yubimusubi: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils may be what your looking for if your trying to restore states...
[02:43] <CarlFK_> grodius - guessing you are still running win, so you should check this out: http://www.fs-driver.org - " The "Ext2 Installable File System for Windows" software is freeware." -- and it rocks.
[02:43] <yubimusubi> IcemanV9: yes, I know what the killall command does...but I'm a gentoo user
[02:43] !lilo:*! Shutting down our poor former main rotation server that's stuck behind cogent. Shutting off new connects first.
[02:43] <yubimusubi> Cashel: thanks that sounds about right ^-^;;
[02:43] <kbrooks> Is there a general 'how to fix intermennt internet connections'?
[02:43] <Cashel> geargolem: -t <type> and make sure hd2 is a directory that esxists...
[02:44] <monteiro> when i start slackware from lilo, it appears crc error, and i need to reset the computer and try again, that strangely works, anyone knows ?
[02:44] <kbrooks> hda2
[02:44] <geargolem> Cashel, how would I test it with -t?
[02:44] <kbrooks> Cashel: no
[02:44] <kbrooks> Cashel: -t != test
[02:44] <Cashel> geargolem: what kind of file system is it?
[02:44] <kbrooks> Cashel: lsof
[02:44] <monteiro> grub i say
[02:44] <kbrooks> use it
[02:44] <Cashel> I never said it was
[02:44] <geargolem> Cashel, ext3
[02:45] <Cashel> geargolem: you sure its not already mounted? if it says busy... type mount alone and see if it is..
[02:45] <maxkelley> say, has anyone gotten their breezy cds yet?
[02:45] <maxkelley> from shipit that is
[02:45] <grodius> cashel alright apparently it mounted on my desktop, but i cant see it... am i supposed to
[02:45] <dmlinux> Anyone know how to change icons in the system tray??
[02:45] <geargolem> Cashel, it says several things about mounts
[02:46] <Cashel> grodius: what do you mean you cant see it?
[02:46] <Cashel> grodius: what command did you issue?
[02:46] <grodius> cashel i cant see it when i minimise and look at my desktop
[02:46] <hobbes_> How do I install a local .deb package with apt-get?
[02:46] <hobbes_> or do I have to use something else?
[02:47] <Cashel> geargolem: what does it say about /dev/hdb1 ?
[02:47] <grodius> cashel sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /home/grodius/Desktop
[02:47] <Cashel> hobbes_: dpkg -i <file>
[02:47] <nekrataal> hi
[02:47] <hobbes_> thanks
[02:47] <nekrataal> i have a question..
[02:47] <BluesRocker> hobbes, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[02:47] <geargolem> Cashel, /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/hd2 type ext (rw)
[02:47] <nekrataal> ld: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/crtbegin.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[02:47] <nekrataal> i get that when i try to compile something
[02:48] <nekrataal> i just upgraded from hoary to breezy
[02:48] <nekrataal> anyone knows what to do?
[02:48] <Cashel> grodius: umount /dev/sda5 , you shouldnt use you desktop dir as a mount point.... you can mkdir /home/Desktop/NTFS or something.. then do it there...
[02:48] <Hobbsee> nekrataal: ask it
[02:48] <Hobbsee> nekrataal: no one can fix it until you ask...
[02:48] <nekrataal> how to fix that?
[02:49] <qatsi> Hobbsee: he said the question :p
[02:49] <Hobbsee> qatsi: got booted...
[02:49] <qatsi> Hobbsee: he, ok then :p
[02:49] <BluesRocker> can anyone help me with sound?
[02:49] <nekrataal> i have that file, but in a 3.3.6 directory..
[02:49] <Hobbsee> nekrataal: please do me a favour and repeat the question lol?
[02:49] <Cashel> nekrataal: do you have glibc 3.3.5 installed?
[02:49] <Cashel> ahhh
[02:49] <nekrataal> i have glibc 3.3.6
[02:50] !lilo:*! Shutting down the server now....
[02:50] <nekrataal> default in breezy
[02:50] <Cashel> hrm..
[02:50] <Hobbsee> qatsi: lag was around 20 s, so i rebooted konqueror
[02:50] <nekrataal> but it seams that LD aims to 3.3.5
[02:50] <nekrataal> seems..
[02:50] <Cashel> thats odd...
[02:50] <geargolem> Cashel, /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/hd2 type ext (rw)
[02:50] <PMantis> Can anyone correc this Totem error? :  libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[02:50] <Cashel> edit the makefile? :P
[02:50] <qatsi> Hobbsee: isnt konqueror part of kubuntu ?
[02:50] <qatsi> anyone here has an Intel D or AMD 64 X2 procesor ?
[02:50] <PMantis> Or this one?:  ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-ac3
[02:50] <Hobbsee> qatsi: yes, and i meant konversation lol
[02:50] <Cashel> geargolem: so its already mounted and your question was answered before it was asked :)
[02:50] <nekrataal> yeah, its really odd..
[02:51] <intelikey> nekrataal "ls /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/crtbegin* " and see if any version is there.
[02:51] <Ropechoborra> Need help for the configuration of a modem!
[02:51] <qatsi> Hobbsee: that sounds good now :P
[02:51] <nekrataal> ls: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/crtbegin*: No such file or directory
[02:51] <nekrataal> nope
[02:51] <nekrataal> it got replaced
[02:51] <Hobbsee> qatsi: yeah, it's still too early
[02:51] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: I suggest prayer.. :)
[02:51] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: been awhile since I've done it.. what kind of modem do you have?
[02:52] <geargolem> Cashel, but all I see there is 'Lost+Found', not my files.
[02:52] <qatsi> Hobbsee: for the procesor you mean ? well, yes, but since this is the geek reunion, i thought anone here had one :p
[02:52] <grodius> cashel what command for unmount "unmount" is not it
[02:52] <intelikey> winmodems are not modems
[02:52] <Cashel> grodius: umount ... not un
[02:52] <Ropechoborra> Cashel an onboard one (PC Chips P4 mother)
[02:52] <grodius> cashel sorry
[02:53] <nekrataal> so, no one knows?
[02:53] <intelikey> Ropechoborra run wvdialconf and see if it picks up a modem or not.
[02:53] <yubimusubi> could gaim block alsa's sound for xmms?
[02:53] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: I'll see if I can find anything about weather its supported, but I'm doubting it..
[02:53] <intelikey> you may need to install it.
[02:53] <inlivingcolour> hello everyone
[02:54] <Ropechoborra> Cashel Ok... Ill do it when i reboot my pc (im not in linux) but why is that? why cant recognice all modems ??
[02:54] <Hobbsee> qatsi: well there you go, it boots you after the server doesnt respond for 45 seconds
[02:54] <Ropechoborra> And if it did not... How do i connect to internet??? buy other modem?? O_o !
[02:54] <inlivingcolour> im trying to install kde, and its telling me that some dependancies are going to be installed and wont dl kde.  how do i force dl of the dependancies?
[02:54] <ScatterBrain> Anyone runnning VMware on Breezy here?
[02:55] <qatsi> Hobbsee: never had that problem :p maybe internet conection ?
[02:55] <targetx> I'm installing VMWare as of now
[02:55] <funkyHat> inlivingcolour, what are you doing to install KDE?
[02:55] <intelikey> Ropechoborra winmodems are propriatary hardware.
[02:55] <Larsson-Sweden> I need some help. I am dualbooting with windows. Now i have reinstalled windows, and of course, grub has been overwritten so grub does not start anymore. How to fix this? Can i somehow write grub to a floppy disc?
[02:55] <Hobbsee> qatsi: could be, shouldnt though, everything else seems fine
[02:55] <funkyHat> inlivingcolour, you should be installing the package named kubuntu-desktop
[02:55] <KinkoBlast> winmodems suck
[02:55] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: some modems arent real modem but "winmodems" which means they are missing an important piece of hardware.. some such modems have linux compatible drivers, but not all..
[02:55] <Hobbsee> Larsson-Sweden: give me a sec
[02:55] <inlivingcolour> funkyhat, im trying to apt-get install kde in terminal, and trying in synaptic
[02:55] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: http://www.linmodems.org/  go there, and try their scanmodem tool
[02:55] <Larsson-Sweden> Yes Hobbsee
[02:55] <qatsi> Hobbsee: darn, im killing myself because the new procesors :S:S:S i want them all !!!
[02:55] <funkyHat> inlivingcolour, don't install kde, install kubuntu-desktop
[02:56] <Ropechoborra> Cashel Thanks!
[02:56] <geargolem> Cashel, but all I see there is 'Lost+Found', not my files.
[02:56] <qatsi> Hobbsee: i dunno why, but i like more the AMD one :p
[02:56] <hobbes_> wicked, thanks Cashel, this is working great
[02:56] <Hobbsee> Larsson-Sweden: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652
[02:56] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: if you have a serial or usb modem (or just a real old modem) laying around, you'll be better off..
[02:56] <Larsson-Sweden> Thx!
[02:56] <Hobbsee> qatsi: hehe
[02:56] <intelikey> Ropechoborra install "wvdial"  and run "wvdialconf"  it is really good at finding usable modems on a system.
[02:56] <IcemanV9> Ropechoborra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto
[02:56] <grodius> cashel k ithink it worked, but now i dont have permission to access the folder...
[02:56] <qatsi> Hobbsee: well, i could be because the 2000Mhz FSB, not the 800 one in Intel
[02:56] <inlivingcolour> ty
[02:56] <Cashel> geargolem: maybe thats all thats there?
[02:57] <Cashel> geargolem: wrong partition maybe...
[02:57] <Cashel> grodius: lol oops
[02:57] <geargolem> Cashel, I have tons of stuff on it, though
[02:57] <grodius> cashel oops :( ?
[02:57] !lilo:*! restarting services; please bear with us
[02:58] <dooglus> what is the recommended way of running GNOME from a chroot environment?
[02:58] <Cashel> grodius: are you using the user you first created in ubuntu?
[02:58] <grodius> cashel since I reformatted, yes.
[02:58] <jacob_> heloo
[02:58] <Larsson-Sweden> Hobbsee, isnt there an app that simply writes the current grub to a floppy?
[02:58] <grodius> cashel grodius is the only user i've ever made
[02:59] <grodius> cashel since i formatted
[02:59] <czr> hello, any kernel experts here?
[02:59] <chickFlick> hello
[02:59] <chickFlick> how to put colours in vim
[02:59] <targetx> ScatterBrain, whats your problem with vmware ?
[02:59] <chickFlick> like when you code in python / php
[03:00] <geargolem> Cashel, I have two hd's.  How could I have the wrong partition?
[03:00] <chickFlick> i need to put coulors
[03:00] <czr> does anyone know why kernel limits my number of threads to lower amount than /proc/sys/kernel/threads-max?
[03:00] <Hobbsee> Larsson-Sweden: could be
[03:00] <Cashel> grodius: ok, then his uid is 1000.. you need to do.. mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000 /dev/sda? /mnt/point/
[03:00] <Cashel> I think...
[03:00] <czr> I'm running without ulimits
[03:00] <Cashel> geargolem: if it says its mounted, and theres nothing there, how could you not?
[03:00] <geargolem> Cashel, because this has happened before
[03:00] <ScatterBrain> targetx: It's SLOW on my new laptop w/Breezy.
[03:01] <czr> chickFlick, you mean syntax highlighting?
[03:01] <czr> chickFlick, so that vim will color keywords in different color from other stuff?
[03:01] <ScatterBrain> targetx: so slow that it's unusable.
[03:01] <Cashel> geargolem: perhaps you dont have read access to those files?
[03:01] <chickFlick> czr, yes
[03:01] <targetx> ScatterBrain, how's the performance during normal Linux usage ?
[03:01] <Cashel> geargolem: are you doing this as root?
[03:01] <czr> chickFlick, are you sure you're using vim and not some other vi-like program?
[03:01] <chickFlick> czr, syntax color
[03:01] <geargolem> Cashel, as sudo
[03:02] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Linux runs fine - even with the VM running.
[03:02] <Cashel> geargolem: sudo ls -al /mount/point   shows nothing?
[03:02] <targetx> 'as sudo' hehe
[03:02] <chickFlick> czr yes
[03:02] <grodius> cashel not workin
[03:02] <targetx> ScatterBrain, sorry I can't help you on it mate.. I'm currently installing it myself and I'm having some trouble too
[03:02] <czr> chickFlick, then it should work automagically if your TERM is set correctly. echo $TERM?
[03:02] <geargolem> Cashel, it shows the permissions...  I'm confused.
[03:03] <Ropechoborra> Cashel si i download wvdial and install it, the run wvdialconf to see if my modem works ?
[03:03] <chickFlick> XTERM
[03:03] <chickFlick> czr XTERM
[03:03] <czr> chickFlick, in capital letters?
[03:03] <chickFlick> czr yes it was in capital
[03:03] <czr> chickFlick, then it's wrong
[03:03] <czr> chickFlick, export TERM=xterm
[03:03] <Cashel> grodius: it gives an error or what?? never done it by hand, always do it in the fstab..
[03:04] <czr> chickFlick, then try vim again
[03:04] <lancer285> hey guys, I just did a clean install of Breezy, but now Rythmbox doesn't play mp3s. is there a package I have to add on to get it to play?
[03:04] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: I dont know anything at all about wvdial
[03:04] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[03:04] <Cashel> geargolem: shows the permissions of what?
[03:04] <czr> lancer285, gstreamer-mp3 in universe
[03:04] <chickFlick> czr , it is in small letter thought..
[03:04] <lancer285> czr, thanks
[03:04] <watnou> morn
[03:05] <czr> chickFlick, which terminal are you using then?
[03:05] <geargolem> Cashel, for instance it says, "drwx----- 2 root root 4096..etc"
[03:05] <grodius> cashel mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5,
[03:05] <grodius>        missing codepage or other error
[03:05] <grodius>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[03:05] <grodius>        dmesg | tail  or so
[03:05] <tritium> grodius, please don't paste
[03:05] <grodius> tritium sorry bout that
[03:05] <czr> now, any people who know a thing or two about the kernel?
[03:05] <tritium> no worries
[03:06] <yubimusubi> czr: kernel is fun
[03:06] <czr> yubimusubi, without a doubt :-)
[03:06] <chickFlick> czr, how to check which terminal i am using
[03:06] <czr> but that wasn't really the question this time :-)
[03:06] <geargolem> Cashel, how do I set permission to the directory?
[03:06] <Ropechoborra> Cashel Ive found this scanModem. I have to install it, execute it and then it gives me a report?
[03:06] <czr> chickFlick, which program did you start to get the command line?
[03:06] <Cashel> geargolem: yes, thats the ls -al .. but do you see all the files you think you should have...
[03:06] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: I guess, I never used it
[03:06] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[03:06] <czr> yubimusubi, my question is that what is the limit of amount of threads in linux
[03:06] <chickFlick> czr , termianl command line
[03:07] <czr> chickFlick, are you using graphical desktop?
[03:07] <czr> chickFlick, if so, how did you start your "terminal"
[03:07] <geargolem> Cashel, no I don't. :(
[03:07] <czr> yubimusubi, I've set my /proc/sys/kernel/threads-max to very insane numbers
[03:07] <chickFlick> czr , application >> systemtools >> terminal
[03:07] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: you need to determin what chipset the modem uses to know if it will work... also you may just try using /dev/ttyS0 (for com1, S1 for com 2, etc) in wvdial or whatever to see if it maybe works already
[03:07] <czr> yubimusubi, but the kernel will clip the amount of threads to less than 32k
[03:08] <yubimusubi> czr: oh, I haven't played with threads
[03:08] <Cashel> geargolem: then theres nothing there
[03:08] <czr> chickFlick, hmm
[03:08] <czr> chickFlick, how did you start vim?
[03:08] <yubimusubi> although I'll have to look into it on my next kernel recompile
[03:08] <czr> yubimusubi, well, there is no kernel conf for that
[03:08] <targetx> ScatterBrain, you have installed VMWARE right ?
[03:08] <czr> not since kernel version 2.2 ;-)
[03:08] <Ropechoborra> Cashel ive tryed that already... Doesnt work... ill try with this scanModem.. :)
[03:08] <geargolem> Cashel, thanks for your help.  I reinstalled ubuntu but before I copied all my files to hd2.
[03:08] <chickFlick> czr , by typing -- vim  filename -- in command line
[03:08] <D1> does anyone know the package libtoolize belongs to?
[03:08] <D1> libtool perhaps?
[03:09] <targetx> I'd guess :D
[03:09] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Yeah it running, it's just dead dog slow.
[03:09] <czr> chickFlick, and you're sure that the TERM was 'xterm' and not 'XTERM'?
[03:09] <grodius> cashel did you get that up there?
[03:09] <Cashel> grodius: ok, lets try it a diff way, since I dunno about making it user friendly with the mount command (sudo commands will work on that drive now, but if you want the user using it its different)
[03:09] <chickFlick> czr , how to get line numbers in vim?
[03:09] <Cashel> yeah
[03:09] <czr> chickFlick, hell if I know :-)
[03:09] <chickFlick> czr, yes i am sure
[03:09] <czr> I don't use vi ;-)
[03:09] <targetx> ScatterBrain, how did you compile the vmware module? I cannot compile it.. I've installed the kernel 2.6.12-9-686 and the corresponding headers, the module won't compile though
[03:09] <czr> vi is the middle name of evil
[03:09] <Ropechoborra> Cashel Other thing.... Got this ntfs partition... It is only mounted as "Read Only" isnt any other way?
[03:09] <Linux_whore>  is this the correct way to mount a floppy > chris@ubuntu:/media$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[03:09] <targetx> ScatterBrain, I'm using the same gcc as used to compile the kernel, as stated by the vmware manual..
[03:09] <grodius> cashel k, what do i need to do
[03:10] <grodius> cashel should i mount it the regular way again
[03:10] <worthawholebean> What's a good voice recognition / dictation software?
[03:10] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: nope, there is not NTFS support for write in linux yet.. they are working on it tho..
[03:10] <nalioth> Ropechoborra: if you write to NTFS from linux, it can destroy the partition
[03:10] <czr> Ropechoborra, you need to have rw-support enabled in the ntfs driver of linux
[03:10] <geargolem> Cashel, the 'lost+found' file in the mount point denying me access.  Can I gain access?
[03:10] <yubimusubi> czr: ah, I've only compiled 2.4 and 2.6 kernels
[03:10] <targetx> ALLWAYS mount 'ntfs' read only
[03:10] <czr> actually the new version of ntfs driver is quite good
[03:10] <Cashel> you should check your pm's grodius :)
[03:10] <nalioth> czr: please dont advise that
[03:10] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Did you use the vmware-any-any patch?
[03:10] <czr> even the write support
[03:10] <D1> im trying to compile filezilla3 cvs
[03:10] <D1> finally
[03:10] <D1> a linux version
[03:10] <Cashel> geargolem: as root sure
[03:10] <targetx> ScatterBrain, come again.. what do you mean ? :-)
[03:10] <czr> nalioth, oh? did you try the new version?
[03:10] <worthawholebean> What's a good voice recognition / dictation software?
[03:10] <Ropechoborra> czr how is that ?
[03:11] <nalioth> czr: new version of what?
[03:11] <geargolem> Cashel, ls -al?
[03:11] <czr> of the ntfs driver
[03:11] <ScatterBrain> targetx: sec.
[03:11] <Cashel> geargolem: sudo ls -al
[03:11] <nalioth> czr: ubuntu doesnt have an NTFS driver
[03:11] <czr> at all?
[03:11] <targetx> I am using VMware Workstation 4.5.2-8848 by the way.. or at least im trying to use it.
[03:11] <czr> heh, serves me right for compiling my own kernels then :-)
[03:11] <targetx> :
[03:11] <nalioth> Ropechoborra: if you write to NTFS from linux, it can destroy the partition
[03:11] <geargolem> Cashel, it still denies me access
[03:11] <yubimusubi> czr: I use gentoo, so I compiled me a custom kernel
[03:11] <chickFlick> anybody have any idea about vim
[03:11] <ScatterBrain> targetx: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77040&highlight=vmware-any-any
[03:11] <Cashel> geargolem: I dont know then dude, it shouldnt
[03:12] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Response No. 3
[03:12] <Ropechoborra> Je ok...... I got partition magic 6.0 but it doesnt let me change it to FAT32 without deleting everything on it
[03:12] <sun_> how to see the content of .deb file
[03:12] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Actually response No. 2 and No. 3
[03:12] <czr> yubimusubi, I compile normally the kernels on development systems I use, even if using debian/ubuntu
[03:12] <geargolem> Cashel, thank  you for your help
[03:12] <yubimusubi> ah
[03:12] <targetx> ScatterBrain, Thanks! Greatly appreciate it!
[03:12] <CzarAlex> Where is my mail sent to root@localhost (or in my case, czar@mother) stored? and how to I set up evolution or thunderbird to read it?
[03:12] <tritium> sun_, dpkg -c <foo.deb>
[03:13] <czr> hmm, no threads experts then I guess
[03:13] <Linux_whore> i just use floppy formatter in ubuntu to format the floppy as DOS (FAT) i dont know if that is the same as vfat and i dont know if my floppy drive destroys floppies or i am doing something wrong
[03:13] <grodius> cashel sorry forgot how
[03:13] <Ropechoborra> Well... I will going now to try this things... Cashel , nalioth , czr Thanks for all ! :)
[03:13] <nalioth> tritium: where you been hiding?
[03:13] <grodius> cashel shit its like ctrl f1 i thought
[03:14] <Ropechoborra> Oh ! I was forgetting something ! a friend of mine told me to instal this sl-modem-modules-2.6.10-5-386_2.9.9a-1ubuntu2+2.6.10-34_i386.deb
[03:14] <Ropechoborra> Ive done that ... then he told me to put sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon but some error occur
[03:14] <aeon17x> Ropechoborra: what for? You have a Smartlink modem?
[03:15] <Ropechoborra> I got a PC Chips P4 M909G motherboard wich brings an onboard modem
[03:15] <Ropechoborra> let me see on the manual
[03:15] <ksmurf> anyone know about FreeNX?
[03:15] <Xenguy> this isn't meant to be a troll, but is Ubuntu now, or in the future, planning to be a fork of Debian?
[03:15] <crimsun> it's not a fork.
[03:16] <Xenguy> crimsun: why is that tho?
[03:16] <tritium> nalioth, just been busy.  You?
[03:16] <crimsun> read mark shuttleworth's blog for the real stance.
[03:16] <aeon17x> Xenguy: it's a fork and it's not.
[03:16] <Xenguy> crimsun: so it's not a fork, but I don't know why :-)
[03:17] <Xenguy> maybe
[03:17] <Madpilot> Xenguy: it's a spoon, not a fork, according to Shuttleworth ;)
[03:17] <dooglus> Xenguy: Mark Shuttleworth calls it a spoon, not a fork
[03:17] <dooglus> hmm
[03:17] <Xenguy> Madpilot: I like the Matrix so I'll probably like the spoon ;-)
[03:17] <crimsun> Xenguy: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[03:17] <yubimusubi> that's cute ^-^;;
[03:17] <aeon17x> Xenguy: but there is no sppon
[03:17] <Xenguy> crimsun: tx
[03:17] <Xenguy> ;-)
[03:17] <aeon17x> *spoon
[03:17] <yubimusubi> why the s? https?
[03:18] <Rev-Marc> someone sent me an address for the repoistory list for Breezy but I have missplaced it, could I please get it again?
[03:18] <dooglus> Rev-Marc: archive.ubuntu.com
[03:18] <Xenguy> yubimusubi: ssl = secure
[03:18] <Xenguy> yubimusubi: encrypted transmission
[03:18] <Rev-Marc> dooglus Thank you
[03:19] <ksmurf> anyone know about FreeNX? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/408483 is the issue I have
[03:19] <yubimusubi> Xenguy: I realise that, but why does he have a secure blog?
[03:19] <yubimusubi> Kinda strange...
[03:19] <Ropechoborra> aeon17x it is an HSP56MR Intel Modem (onboard)
[03:19] <crimsun> yubimusubi: everyone does.
[03:19] <crimsun> yubimusubi: that's just how wiki.ubuntu.com is configured
[03:19] <Xenguy> yubimusubi: who knows -- sounds good just on general principle to me
[03:20] <nalioth> system > prefs >windows > window selection
[03:20] <yubimusubi> hm...I guess so.
[03:21] <nalioth> darn window selector
[03:21] <targetx> ScatterBrain, thanks! VMWare compiles now..
[03:21] <Tido> what's the best tool to use for remote control that's graphical?
[03:21] <Rev-Marc> What I need is a good copy of the apt-get conf file
[03:21] <ksmurf> freeNX from what I have read
[03:22] <Tido> thanks!
[03:22] <Rev-Marc> any help greatly appreciated
[03:22] <yubimusubi> has anyone had any trouble with alsa on ubuntu? with xmms?
[03:22] <ScatterBrain> targetx: COOL!  Glad to help.
[03:22] <jack_> can anyone tell me how to hibernate or suspend on ubuntu???
[03:22] <Ropechoborra> nalioth it is an HSP56MR Intel Modem (onboard)
[03:22] <targetx> ScatterBrain, Just a thought.. have you enabled prelinking ?
[03:22] <jonny_> I love Uuntu, but I want to try out other distros. Is there any way to install other types of linux on the same hdd without affecting ubuntu?
[03:22] <larsson_> If i have a Ubuntu live CD, can i booy
[03:22] <ScatterBrain> targetx: No.
[03:22] <ksmurf> jack_ when you find out let me know
[03:22] <nalioth> Ropechoborra: i dont know much about those
[03:23] <yubimusubi> jonny_: you should try livecds first
[03:23] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[03:23] <ScatterBrain> targetx: If you get a VM installed tonight, can you let me know how it performs?
[03:23] <Ropechoborra> Thanks any way ill be going now
[03:23] <larsson_> If i have a Ubuntu live CD, can i boot my existing ubuntu installation with it?
[03:23] <jack_> ill try
[03:23] <targetx> ScatterBrain, I'm installing Windows XP on it now (just to toy with) and that shouldn't take too long I hope
[03:23] <jonny_> yubimusubi: the one I want does not have a live CD
[03:23] <crimsun> jack_: what laptop?
[03:23] <bimberi> ubotu tell Rev-Marc about repos
[03:23] <ScatterBrain> targetx: cool.
[03:23] <ksmurf> acer
[03:23] <yubimusubi> jonny_: otherwise, yes, you can repartition your hard drive and install more than one linux...at one point I had SuSE, debian, ubuntu and gentoo all installed on one hd
[03:23] <yubimusubi> jonny_: what dist you looking at?
[03:24] <bimberi> Ropechoborra: you might be on the right track for getting that modem going.  what's the error you're getting?
[03:24] <jonny_> yubimusubi: spinix
[03:24] <ksmurf> anyone known about FreeNX?
[03:25] <jonny_> how can I repartition,  yubimusub?
[03:25] <ksmurf> I can't seem to get the client and server to like each other
[03:25] <yubimusubi> jonny_: if it's a halfway-decent distro it will come with some good partitioning tools, otherwise I suggest using fdisk
[03:25] <ksmurf> johnny gparted
[03:25] <jack_> i have a HP dv1000
[03:25] <yubimusubi> ksmurf: is that graphical?
[03:26] <ksmurf> yes
[03:26] <jonny_> fdisk? is that in synaptic, yubimusubi ?
[03:26] <yubimusubi> Hm..I've only used suse's partition manager and fdisk..I like fdisk better
[03:26] <larsson_> If i have a Ubuntu live CD, can i boot my existing ubuntu installation with it? Please answer..
[03:26] <yubimusubi> jonny_: try ksmurf's idea of gparted first
[03:26] <ksmurf> yubimushi gparted is no destructive
[03:26] <jonny_> is that on synaptic?
[03:26] <ksmurf> yes
[03:27] <crimsun> larsson_: yes, presuming you have the same kernel installed
[03:27] <yubimusubi> ksmurf: fdisk is not destructive either
[03:27] <dooglus> ksmurf: gparted is a non-descructive partitioning tool?
[03:27] <ksmurf> yubimushi gparted my bad
[03:27] <aeon17x> Folks, gotta go now... I'm off to install Ubuntu on 20 computers in a local school... wish me luck.
[03:27] <Rev-Marc> bimberi <== Thank You
[03:27] <crimsun> larsson_: (should work even if you don't have the same kernel, but it may spew more verbosely)
[03:27] <ksmurf> yubimushi  my bad
[03:27] <larsson_> crimsun, its a hoary live cd, i have breezy installer now.
[03:27] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: yw :)
[03:27] <larsson_> *installed
[03:28] <jonny_> It says I already have it, where is it located?
[03:28] <crimsun> larsson_: you can still do it. linux root=/dev/fooblah
[03:28] <ksmurf> dooglus .... you can do nondestructive resizing of drives ( in theory) .....
[03:28] <jack_> crimsun: i have HP dv1000
[03:28] <dooglus> ksmurf: oh, I see what you mean.  ok.  does it work?
[03:28] <larsson_> crimsun, my problem is that grub is gone after having installed XP.
[03:28] <crimsun> larsson_: may need to pass init=foo explicitly
[03:28] <[bw] 808y> im new here whats the new codename of the latetest ubuntu?
[03:29] <[bw] 808y> i have warty
[03:29] <crimsun> jack_: is acpi confirmed to not be problematic on it?
[03:29] <[bw] 808y> then?
[03:29] <jonny_> ...found it
[03:29] <Hobbsee> [bw] 808y: breezy
[03:29] <[bw] 808y> thx
[03:29] <targetx> NEAT!! :) Vmware on linux woohoo
[03:29] <dooglus> [bw] 808y: 'breezy' was released 2 weeks ago.  'dapper' is in development
[03:29] <[bw] 808y> oki thx
[03:29] <targetx> ScatterBrain, Have you installed VMWARE TOOLS ??
[03:29] <jack_> crimsun: i dont know, how do i tell :(
[03:29] <targetx> (inside the guest operating system in vmware )
[03:30] <crimsun> jack_: search the wiki, of course :-)
[03:30] <ksmurf> dooglus.... I wouldn't trust critical data without backing it up first but I've had an 80% sucess rate
[03:30] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Yeah.
[03:30] <ksmurf> (4 of 5)
[03:30] <dooglus> ksmurf: 4 out of 5?
[03:30] <dooglus> ok.
[03:30] <jonny_> in gparted, how can you change size, yubimusubi ?
[03:30] <dooglus> my success rate is currently 0 out of 0 with gparted and 1 out of 1 with bootitng
[03:30] <ksmurf> unmount the drive the resize
[03:30] <jack_> crimsun: ok hold on
[03:31] <nalioth> jonny_: you need to run gparted from the livecd, if you are working with your current partition
[03:31] <LincTeK> general question .. what is the minimum ram you would suggest for a breezy install
[03:31] <ksmurf> Linc ....256 but 128 can be done
[03:32] <crimsun> LincTeK: to be comfortable, 256 MB. You can make do with 64, but you'll want a slimmer desktop environment.
[03:32] <nalioth> LincTeK: i second the 256
[03:32] <ksmurf> if you tweakk all
[03:32] <jonny_> I have no live cd, except for warty, nalioth
[03:32] <nalioth> jonny_: that should work
[03:32] <jonny_> ok, thx
[03:33] <ksmurf> can anyone help me get freenx going?
[03:33] <doubletwist> Geez, I hate anything less than 384... But then I tend to run a lot of progs at once.
[03:33] <ksmurf> doubletwist Linc asked for a minimum
[03:33] <doubletwist> right
[03:34] <doubletwist> But no one asked what he'd be doing with it.
[03:34] <ufc> System > Administration > Login Screen Setup > psswd > FAILED to run gdmsetup as user root Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file. ?? what is wrong?
[03:34] <doubletwist> which is the important consideration I think.
[03:34] <dooglus> ksmurf: is freenx packaged for ubuntu?  is it in the repos?
[03:35] <ksmurf> dooglus one sec
[03:35] <targetx> ScatterBrain, should I run vmware as root.. at the moment my newly created virtual machina cannot access my cdrom drive (doesn't find it at all (not even in bios of vmware machine))
[03:35] <Xenguy> crimsun: thanks; very interesting read :-)
[03:35] <LincTeK> i usually run no less than 512 mb but i was just wondering what the general thoughts were
[03:35] <sun_> i want to the detailed process of the installation of ubuntu
[03:35] <ScatterBrain> targetx: I've never had too before.
[03:35] <targetx> LincTeK, I prefer 7xx or more
[03:36] <crimsun> sun_: ...the what?
[03:36] <targetx> ScatterBrain, ok.. then it's just something odd at my place
[03:36] <LincTeK> I have edubuntu ona machine for my kids and it's a bit slow with 128 mb
[03:36] <ksmurf> !frenx
[03:36] <ubotu> ksmurf: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:36] <ksmurf> !freenx
[03:36] <ubotu> it has been said that freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[03:36] <crimsun> ksmurf: no, it's not.
[03:36] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Other than that does the VM feel responsive?
[03:36] <targetx> yep totally
[03:36] <targetx> doesn't even feel like something JAVA-ish (which usually is slow.. like limewire..)
[03:36] <targetx> I just can't get it to boot from the CD which is in my drive.. pretty odd
[03:37] <ksmurf> crimsun it's not?
[03:37] <[bw] 808y> can someone post me the source.list lines with that i can install valknut(dc client)?
[03:37] <ScatterBrain> targetx: And you're running Breezy?
[03:37] <zblach> hi. quick question. how to play .vob files?
[03:37] <crimsun> ksmurf: it's not in the archive, no.
[03:37] <Hobbsee> !tell [bw] 808y about repositories
[03:37] <ksmurf> dooglus https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX?highlight=%28Freenx%29
[03:37] <zblach> i got a dvd, and all it has are folders audio_ts and video_tx
[03:37] <zblach> **ts
[03:38] <jack_> crimsun: sorry for taking so long, wiki says nothing about weather acpi is problamatic
[03:38] <sun_> crimsun:i want to custom ubuntu,make it small,how to do it
[03:38] <dooglus> ksmurf: I see.  It's not available in the official repositories
[03:38] <targetx> ScatterBrain, yes, the latest version
[03:38] <ksmurf> not in seveas
[03:38] <dooglus> ksmurf: my mother always told me not to take binaries from strange men
[03:38] <ksmurf> no in seveas
[03:38] <zblach> .vob, .bup and .ifo
[03:38] <ksmurf> He's an op for the channel
[03:39] <icewt> zblach: try vlc. it can play dvds and supports dvd menus
[03:39] <nalioth> LincTeK: in my experience, i run a dual proc G5 powermac with 2.5gb ram, i hardly ever use more than 756 for regular stuff
[03:39] <dooglus> ksmurf: yes, i know
[03:39] <zblach> icewt, i'm not too familiar with vlc. i have it, but how to use?
[03:39] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Which video card are you using?
[03:39] <crimsun> jack_: so then you want to take a look at /etc/default/acpi-support
[03:39] <bpf> n00b question here: how can I probe my hardware to see which wireless card is built into my laptop? (i'm running breezy)
[03:39] <jack_> crimsun: ok
[03:40] <crimsun> bpf: hotplug+udev are intelligent enough, usually. lspci -v|more
[03:40] <ScatterBrain> targetx: and are you running the stock Ubuntu drivers or the accelerated driver for the card?
[03:40] <ksmurf> dooglus sorry .My wife is in labor.  My humor is not there right now
[03:40] <targetx> for my videocard?
[03:40] <ScatterBrain> targetx: yeah.
[03:40] <targetx> oh sorry didn't read the message above
[03:40] <icewt> zblach: do you have a dvd as a disc, or just the files on your hard drive?
[03:40] <crimsun> sun_: look on the wiki and the mailing list archive
[03:40] <zblach> a disc
[03:40] <targetx> ScatterBrain, I have a NVIDIA Geforce FX 5900XT 128Mb by Club3d and I'm using the Ubuntu provided nvidia-glx drivers
[03:40] <crimsun> doubletwist: doable but very, very painful
[03:40] <ksmurf> can anyone help me get freenx going?  or at least configured?
[03:40] <targetx> (which are the same as from nvidia.com.. I suppose)
[03:40] <crimsun> doubletwist: and I stress -very-
[03:41] <dooglus> ksmurf: were you planning to use freenx to watch the birth remotely?  how long do we have to get it working?
[03:41] <sun_> crimsun:)ok
[03:41] <ScatterBrain> targetx: I've got an ATI x300.  And I'm using the ATI drivers from ATI's site.
[03:41] <doubletwist> See I don't understand that...
[03:41] <ScatterBrain> targetx: I've been wondering I that is part of my problem.
[03:41] <targetx> ScatterBrain, Ati and Linux has allways been a bit more problematic than their Nvidia rivals, but I doubt that that VMWare running slow is the result of their drivers
[03:41] <doubletwist> I used to have an AT&T 6300plus. It was basically a 286 [with some XT parts]  that claimed to be able to run DOS or Unix...
[03:42] <icewt> zblach: well, then you could try file -> open disc -> and write /dev/dvd in the device section (or whatever it was)
[03:42] <targetx> ScatterBrain, try running it in a plain (VESA) X server
[03:42] <Ropechoborra> I got it !! Im downloading the drivers for my modem ! its a PCTEL could it be? And its for linux!! Now what should i do to configure it ???
[03:42] <doubletwist> I never had unix for it, but I presume it had to be usable or they wouldn't have bothered.
[03:42] <doubletwist> And it only had 1MB ram [obviously a gui would be out of the question] 
[03:43] <icewt> zblach: or just write dvd:///dev/dvd on the top box
[03:43] <carlosqueso> hey, all, how does one set IRQ's under linux?
[03:43] <Linux_whore> how can i uninstall programs that do not show in synaptic they were a .run file when i installed them
[03:43] <ksmurf> dooglus Just to mangage things here and upload (which I can do with ssh) to the ftp the video.  I was going to do the editing remotly.  She has been having contractions for 2 days so far.... still 2 Hours apart.
[03:43] <crimsun> doubletwist: Ubuntu won't run on a 286
[03:43] <carlosqueso> my wireless card shares one with my sound card and don't get along
[03:43] <doubletwist> crimsun Well yeah I know that. :)
[03:44] <doubletwist> Maybe an old slackware install will work on the 386...
[03:44] <propagandhi> an axe would work on the 386
[03:44] <stuka> hola
[03:44] <doubletwist> haha
[03:44] <yubimusubi> gentoo should have no problem with a 286
[03:44] <jack_> crimsun: what do i do with acpi-support?
[03:44] <carlosqueso> laughing at "axe"
[03:44] <zblach> icewt, i've tried a few combinations, nothing doing
[03:44] <zblach> dvd://media/cdrom <--
[03:44] <doubletwist> yubimusubi All linux has a problem with 286. There's a special kernel you need for 286. Generally linux requires at least 386
[03:44] <dooglus> ksmurf: did you try VNC instead?  It may not be so smooth, but it's probably easier to get working.
[03:44] <crimsun> jack_: uncomment ACPI_SLEEP and ACPI_HIBERNATE if you're sure they'll work
[03:45] <fcfdj> hi how long does ubuntu take to install?
[03:45] <yubimusubi> doubletwist: :P
[03:45] <icewt> zblach: i don't think that would work
[03:45] <fcfdj> its been at 6% for 15 mins
[03:45] <propagandhi> fcfdj: it depends on the loose nut behind the wheel
[03:45] <carlosqueso> fcfdj...20-30 mins on my relatively crappy comp
[03:45] <Xenguy> hah
[03:46] <fcfdj> the puter is 7 years old but its still damn good
[03:46] <Ropechoborra> http://www.modem-help.co.uk/chips/pctamr.html#linuxI got it !! Im downloading the drivers for my modem ! its a PCTEL could it be? And its for linux!! Now what should i do to configure it ???
[03:46] <LincTeK> i did breezy install in about 30 min on 933 intel box
[03:46] <alexandre> hello
[03:46] <fcfdj> it says retreiving all these files
[03:46] <ksmurf> dooglus... nah but it matters not.  I will just sftp it and edit it when I get back to the box.  I wanted to use that machine 3.4GHz 2GB ram and 600GB storage
[03:46] <carlosqueso> no one knows anything about IRQ's huh?
[03:46] <alexandre> ya t'il des francais ce soir ?
[03:46] <Ropechoborra> What is RTFM ??
[03:47] <Ropechoborra> alexandre try #ubuntu-fr
[03:47] <ksmurf> IRQ interupts?
[03:47] <yubimusubi> I did a gentoo in 2 days + another day for xorg on a 686
[03:47] <fcfdj> and i wonder if it messed up when it automatically found my drivers
[03:47] <erickUbuntu> Guys how can I install java
[03:47] <targetx> lol
[03:47] <alexandre> ok
[03:47] <targetx> 'what is rtfm' :D
[03:47] <carlosqueso> ksmurf...yes
[03:47] <alexandre> thanks ^
[03:47] <Ropechoborra> ;)
[03:47] <alexandre> ^^
[03:47] <Hobbsee> !tell erickUbuntu about javadeb
[03:47] <ksmurf> carlos u need?
[03:47] <yubimusubi>  E: Package nvidia-kernel has no installation candidate (???)
[03:47] <carlosqueso> k...yeah, my wireless and sound cards share the same one
[03:47] <erickUbuntu> thanks
[03:48] <carlosqueso> methinks that's why the wireless doesn't work
[03:48] <glick> damn! firefox goes down more then a 2 dollar crack hoe
[03:48] <holy_cow> !javadeb
[03:48] <ubotu> it has been said that javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[03:48] <Mr-Petah> Ropechoborra, what is your questin?
[03:48] <SpecialBuddy> does anyone know anything about java?
[03:48] <VeRiTTo> Hi
[03:48] <holy_cow> oh sweet
[03:48] <VeRiTTo> How can I change the name to my pc?
[03:48] <Mr-Petah> xDDD
[03:48] <Ropechoborra> targetx you told me to ask what RTFM was :P
[03:48] <fcfdj> why does everyone like firefox?
[03:48] <ksmurf> ah and that's no good?.?
[03:48] <Ropechoborra> nonononon
[03:48] <LincTeK> !javadeb
[03:48] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[03:48] <Ropechoborra> Sorry
[03:48] <Ropechoborra> TAB mistake
[03:48] <Ropechoborra> Mr-Petah You! told me
[03:48] <dooglus> fcfdj: they don't.
[03:48] <Ropechoborra> xD
[03:48] <Earthen> could some tell how to block all UDP traffic using Ip tables
[03:49] <Mr-Petah> no, i can't
[03:49] <holy_cow> awesome, jre packaged, nice
[03:49] <carlosqueso> I'm thinking not.....because the wreless messes everything else up
[03:49] <Mr-Petah> xDDD
[03:49] <holy_cow> i hated that sun installer bs
[03:49] <fcfdj> good i think it blows
[03:49] <Ropechoborra> Plz....... How do i configure my modem if i got the drivers???????
[03:49] <carlosqueso> and conflicts with my soundcard
[03:49] <Mr-Petah> question to the channel
[03:49] <carlosqueso> so I'm thinking change it and try
[03:49] <ksmurf> IRQTUNE -- A Linux IRQ Priority Optimizer
[03:49] <dooglus> fcfdj: it has less than 10% market share.  if everyone loved it, wouldn't it be higher?
[03:49] <fcfdj> alot of my buddies say its faster and im like uhh no
[03:49] <zblach> icewt, what would you recommend
[03:49] <dooglus> fcfdj: faster than what?
[03:49] <Ropechoborra> Mr Channel... could you tell me how to configure my modem if i have the drivers????
[03:49] <carlosqueso> kewl...in breezy repos?
[03:49] <fcfdj> ie for windows
[03:50] <sbalneav> lynx is the only good browser.  Well, actually, "telnet host.name 80", is even better.
[03:50] <holy_cow> dooglus, you consider that something to be ashamed of?
[03:50] <Mr-Petah> hey channel, plz, ask Ropechoborra what is RTFM plz :)
[03:50] <SpecialBuddy> what's lynx
[03:50] <fcfdj> they dont know much about computers but they all have firefox for some odd reson
[03:50] <LincTeK> carlo: did you try moving one of your cards to a different pci slot ?
[03:50] <Ropechoborra> What the f*uck is RTFM ??? ! :S
[03:50] <holy_cow> in open source circles thats a hell of an accomplishment except considering the target audience
[03:50] <dooglus> holy_cow: i'm not ashamed, no.  but I consider it to be evidence that not everyone loves firefox
[03:50] <sbalneav> Read The Fine Manual
[03:51] <carlosqueso> LincTek...only got one on stupid lappy
[03:51] <Mr-Petah> sbalneav, xDDDDDDD nono...... say wath is realyxd
[03:51] <Mr-Petah> xDDD
[03:51] <holy_cow> dooglus, i think your miscategorizing the situation
[03:51] <LincTeK> oh lappy
[03:51] <fcfdj> i am about to install linux on my old puter because i got a new laptop
[03:51] <holy_cow> it is just as likely that most people simply have never have heard of it
[03:51] <carlosqueso> yeah :-(....price I pay for convience
[03:51] <dooglus> holy_cow: there are an awful lot of windows zealots out there
[03:51] <fcfdj> i havent used linux in 7 years whats new?
[03:51] <Linux_whore> how can i remove something that was installed from a .run file and it doesnt show in synaptic
[03:51] <targetx> better sound support
[03:51] <dooglus> holy_cow: also, lots of people are suspicious of free software
[03:52] <holy_cow> dooglus, true, most home comp users i would categorize simply as clueless however
[03:52] <holy_cow> the zealots tend to be vb programmers and mcse's
[03:52] <Earthen> dooglus: lol I think of it as more like only 10% of computer user are intelengent computer users :)
[03:52] <targetx> WOW.. enabling legacy mode for your cdrom drive in VMWare seriously kills performance
[03:52] <dooglus> holy_cow: right.  most people don't know how to program their videos either
[03:52] <holy_cow> dooglus, heh, if that were only true there would be no such thing as spyware :)
[03:52] <Toma-> is gnome ment to be able to use .xpm icons on the panel?
[03:52] <targetx> yea
[03:53] <holy_cow> dooglus, i think if for example google actively promoted mozilla whatever, they could get that 10% way up there
[03:53] <dooglus> holy_cow: lots of spyware gets installed without consent using IE holes.  "drive-by installs"
[03:53] <holy_cow> at this point its a marketing issue, you need to get in front of everyones face and scream at them to use it
[03:53] <carlosqueso> kmurf...thx for the tip....found irqtune and will try it
[03:54] <carlosqueso> cow...ask jehova's witnesses how that works
[03:54] <ScatterBrain> targetx: You're right - video isn't the problem.
[03:54] <fcfdj> ha
[03:54] <dooglus> holy_cow: it's probably a good idea to iron out a few more of the bugs before spending too much on marketing.
[03:54] <targetx> ScatterBrain, ahh good, at least noww e know what's NOT it :-0
[03:54] <chickFlick> anybody know about vim colouring
[03:54] <holy_cow> dooglus, indeed
[03:54] <Earthen> I think the main reason is the IE is allready there in windows and lets face most normal people will think that i is good enough why bother download something differant
[03:54] <holy_cow> 1.5 is amazing memory wise
[03:54] <LincTeK> anyone seen those commercials for windows ...saying how much stuff windows can do for ya
[03:55] <holy_cow> i opened up 100 tabs in 1.5 rc whatever and it didn't eath hardly any ram for example
[03:55] <dooglus> holy_cow: if your unique selling point is that it's a secure browser then you look pretty silly when 7 security-fix versions come out one after the other after the big launch of 1.0
[03:55] <fcfdj> i think so
[03:55] <holy_cow> it was magic :)
[03:55] <targetx> ScatterBrain, I had to enable LEgacy CDROM Access to get VMWare to work with it, now my whole Ubuntu box is slugish cause ofi t. Is this cause it has to emulate the cd drive or something?
[03:55] <rain`> Anyone in here running dual head mode that can check a bug for me?
[03:55] <cyphase> LincTek, those are for Microsoft in general
[03:55] <bimberi> chickFlick: once in vi, type :syn on
[03:55] <holy_cow> dooglus, indeed, ff has a lot of tightening to do in that end
[03:55] <targetx> can't even play music anymore. .bah
[03:55] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Yeah.
[03:56] <holy_cow> i use epiphany in gnome however, i love the integration with the de
[03:56] <targetx> ScatterBrain, I'll have to get that fixed then.. before I enabled legacy mode preformance was great
[03:56] <dooglus> holy_cow: I raised a bug recently against firefox - it was crashing when I visited a certain page.  the responses seemed to suggest that nobody really understands the code properly.  they kind of half-fixed the bug, and left it at that.
[03:56] <targetx> * sorry for typo's btw it's realyl hard to type correct when everything lags
[03:56] <fcfdj> the ubuntu setup is still at 6%
[03:56] <dooglus> holy_cow: it doesn't inspire too much hope for the future
[03:57] <DjKritical> For apache do I need the apache2 pakage? or apache2-common?
[03:57] <targetx> fcfdj, press CTRL+ALT+F2/F3 toc heck status
[03:57] <fcfdj> that can't be right?
[03:57] <LincTeK> fcfdi : try starting over
[03:57] <chickFlick> bimberi, thanks
[03:57] <holy_cow> dooglus, for what version? 1.5rc?
[03:57] <dooglus> holy_cow: yes
[03:57] <targetx> LincTeK, that  sounds windoow-ish
[03:57] <fcfdj> the files it is retrieving chnages its not frozen its just running extremely slow
[03:58] <targetx> then just sit it out
[03:58] <holy_cow> *shrug* one can say the same about pretty much anything tho
[03:58] <dooglus> holy_cow: but it's an old bug I think - present in 1.0 too
[03:58] <bimberi> chickFlick: yw :) - you can set it permanently in you .vimrc file (see vimtutor for details)
[03:58] <fcfdj> i feel lniux is going to be hard to operate if i cant even install it lol
[03:58] <carlosqueso> irqtune doesn't like me :-(
[03:59] <carlosqueso> fcfdj...depends on what you want it to do
[03:59] <holy_cow> i don't consider ff having any real problems that most people claim as issues
[03:59] <holy_cow> the one thing i would say is an issue with ff is integration
[03:59] <LincTeK> fcfdj : how fast is the machine you are installing it on ?
[03:59] <holy_cow> it will never be able to integrate properly with whatever hosting environment
[03:59] <holy_cow> however
[03:59] <chickFlick> bimberi, thaks a lot.. where is the file .vimrc
[03:59] <holy_cow> opera integrates far less and they are doing fine, so who knows
[04:00] <fcfdj> 450 pII xenon with 512 + 128 mb
[04:00] <targetx> ScatterBrain, the instalation will take approx. 40 more minutes I'm affraid (Windows XP Pro)
[04:00] <bimberi> chickFlick: it's not created by default but needs to be in your home directory (/home/<username>)
[04:00] <targetx> fcfdj, lol can't you count 512+128 or.. ?
[04:00] <fcfdj> its a beast for 7 years old
[04:00] <ReleaseX> what's the best way to install skype? with the debian repo or following the ubuntuguide
[04:01] <fcfdj> actually now that is is written down
[04:01] <LincTeK> fcfdj: probally take over 30 min or more to fully install
[04:01] <targetx> apt-get install skype I think
[04:01] <fcfdj> i didnt feel like working
[04:01] <bimberi> ReleaseX: do you have breezy?
[04:01] <ScatterBrain> targetx: If you're willing to wait in here that long, I'll hang around.
[04:01] <fcfdj> it has been stuck at 6% for quite some time
[04:01] <holy_cow> ReleaseX, they have ubuntu debs on their site, no?
[04:01] <targetx> yeah I don't have anything to do tomorrow annyway.. it's allready 4AM though..
[04:01] <fcfdj> but it is showing some signs of action in the file names
[04:02] <targetx> but will sit this out.. wanna see if it works :)
[04:02] <LincTeK> grab a snack and chill i guess
[04:02] <carlosqueso> hmmbm...wireless card  causes keyboard...... to go all screwy
[04:02] <targetx> fcfdj, as long as VC2  or 3 show some movement..
[04:02] <carlosqueso> some sort of conflict
[04:02] <carlosqueso> ?
[04:02] <nalioth> ReleaseX: best not to follow ubuntuguide
[04:02] <[koji] > anyone using network manager?
[04:03] <fcfdj> do u find that out by pressing ctrl alt f2?
[04:03] <Hobbsee> fcfdj: yes
[04:03] <ReleaseX> bimberi: i have breezy
[04:03] <bimberi> ReleaseX: skype packaged for breezy -> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (breezy-extras)
[04:03] <jonny_> iv tried EVERYTHING and i cant get rid of kubuntu-desktop!
[04:04] <targetx> apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop -f
[04:04] <ReleaseX> bimberi: thanks
[04:04] <bimberi> ReleaseX: yw :)
[04:05] <rmd> hi there
[04:05] <flocrypt> hello ubuntus
[04:05] <targetx> hi!
[04:05] <Sean89> Hello, I am having problems mounting a windows folder with ubuntu live cd
[04:05] <carlosqueso> wish I had insurance on this lappy....an "accident"   would befall it
[04:06] <flocrypt> i could use some help with a soundproblem...
[04:06] <crimsun> flocrypt: shoot.
[04:06] <flocrypt> yeah
[04:06] <worthawholebean> Where are the ops on this channel? just curious
[04:06] <Hobbsee> worthawholebean: they're around
[04:06] <flocrypt> so my soundcard is listed with lspci but it is not installed
[04:06] <targetx> RIGHT behind you waiting to G-Line you :P
[04:07] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:07] <worthawholebean> lol
[04:07] <rmd> lol
[04:07] <Madpilot> worthawholebean: #ubuntu's ops tend to lurk; trolls tend not to notice the fin in the water until it's too late
[04:07] <Hobbsee> worthawholebean: most of them dont keep their op status all the time, but i know that they're definetly around
[04:07] <Madpilot> ;)
[04:07] <fluvvell> anybody real good at wireless?  I moved away from my ap and now cant connect with my laptop (without rebooting)
[04:07] <Sean89> The Windows folder is "192.168.0.106/SharedDocs/tiger" and I want to mount it to "/mnt/tiger" I am running the live cd. How can I properly mount it?
[04:07] <crimsun> (the bot has a list of ops.)
[04:07] <zeroth_> Hi, how do I add a wireless device to my system sofware-wise. I don't think I placed the little plus sign next to it when I installed it. Or then I did and it just doesn't work. Can someone help me with that?
[04:08] <zeroth_> Basically, I have no idea what I'm doing.
[04:08] <holy_cow> zeroth_, it really depends on the wireless card
[04:08] <holy_cow> is it a pcmcia t ype for a laptop?
[04:08] <zeroth_> Inter Pro something.
[04:08] <holy_cow> what type/model?
[04:08] <zeroth_> I think.
[04:08] <crimsun> flocrypt: and what is the sound chipset from lspci -v|grep -i audio ?
[04:08] <Epix> can someone from canada pastebin their sources.list file for me. thanks. mine is bork3d
[04:09] <zeroth_> holy_cow, I'm not sure.
[04:09] <zeroth_> The one that qualifies as centrino.
[04:09] <Sean89> Again - The Windows folder is "192.168.0.106/SharedDocs/tiger" and I want to mount it to "/mnt/tiger" I am running the live cd. How can I properly mount it?
[04:09] <fluvvell> holy_cow: do use wireless with ubuntu?
[04:09] <targetx> Intel ProWireless that is :)
[04:09] <fcfdj> i restarted and I am wondering weither i should erase or erase using lvm??
[04:09] <flocrypt> crimsun: 0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[04:09] <flocrypt>         Subsystem: C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device
[04:09] <Tido> dumb newbie question. If I create a new user and I (the administrator) want to get into their home directory to put something there, how do I override those permissions?
[04:09] <fcfdj> whats is lvm?
[04:09] <zeroth_> targetx, probably, yeah.
[04:10] <herrpoonstrikes> hi can someone help me im having problems with firestarter and samba
[04:10] <targetx> ipw2200 driver it is
[04:10] <fluvvell> targetx: Im using Intel Prowireless on my HP/Compaq with ubuntu!
[04:10] <carlosqueso> tudo..with sudo
[04:10] <crimsun> flocrypt: is this a new motherboard?
[04:10] <gnomefreak> !tell epix about sources
[04:10] <targetx> fluvvell, I used to do that on my Dell laptop
[04:10] <zeroth_> fluvvell, how do I do it?
[04:10] <Tido> sudo cd theirhomedirectory >
[04:10] <Tido> ?
[04:10] <carlosqueso> holy_cow...you on wireless?
[04:10] <holy_cow> zeroth_, when installing devinces on linux, you always need to know what the hardware is (model/make), then need to find out if its supported, and if it is find the proper instructions for installing via google
[04:10] <fcfdj> i restarted and I am wondering weither i should erase or erase using lvm??
[04:10] <carlosqueso> tido...sudo -i to keep root
[04:11] <fluvvell> targetx: it just installed correctly (its onboard) when I installed ubuntu
[04:11] <carlosqueso> then cd to thier home
[04:11] <targetx> fcfdj, just erase
[04:11] <Tido> ahhh ok
[04:11] <fluvvell> zeroth: as above
[04:11] <targetx> fluvvell, yep, for me too :) pretty cool!
[04:11] <Tido> how do I do it in the graphical file browser?
[04:11] <fcfdj> what is lvm out of curosity?
[04:11] <fluvvell> zeroth_:  you have a laptop?
[04:11] <zeroth_> Yeah.
[04:11] <holy_cow> zeroth_, what i'm getting at is that no one in the channel can run you through it, the process tends to be labourious, but i gave you the steps you need to start with
[04:11] <targetx> fcfdj, something like raid.. to manage hard disks in a efficient way
[04:11] <targetx> fcfdj, but you don't want it for a normal box, normally
[04:11] <holy_cow> zeroth_, chances are your wireless hardware isn't supported, but thats just a guess as i have no clue what chipset your hardware has
[04:11] <zeroth_> holy_cow, that's pretty homosexual. :/
[04:11] <fcfdj> ok thanx
[04:11] <flocrypt> no it is not so new, i hava an athlon 1200MHz CPU and I dont know what motherboard this is
[04:12] <fluvvell> well mine works, are you using wep encryption?
[04:12] <holy_cow> carlosqueso, sure
[04:12] <targetx> WPA Encryption even works in the latest Ubuntu (They updated the intel firmware etc!)
[04:12] <zeroth_> Cheers guys.
[04:12] <holy_cow> fluvvell, indeed
[04:12] <Epix> What apt package do I need to play mp3s? (the lib)
[04:12] <targetx> apt-get install gstreamer-media* I think it was..
[04:12] <holy_cow> zeroth_, take it or leave it, you will be doing the work, no one here will do it for  you thats for sure
[04:12] <carlosqueso> holy_cow: here's a more specific ?  I have a dlink DWL-650, 'tis supposed to be supported, running in ndiswrapper, but screws my system and doesn't work when it's in
[04:12] <carlosqueso> any ideas?
[04:12] <lsald> !tell Epix about mp3
[04:12] <bimberi> Epix: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats (under Codecs)
[04:13] <drewbie> tido, in a terminal: sudo nautilus
[04:13] <fluvvell> holy_cow: is there a list of wireless tools to peruse?
[04:13] <holy_cow> carlosqueso, no not with ndiswrapper, infact i go out of my way to ditch any such devices and buy things natively supported
[04:13] <crimsun> flocrypt: sec
[04:13] <carlosqueso> It's supposed to be, according to the wiki
[04:13] <holy_cow> fluvvell, there is a list of wireless network cards supported yes, but i don't have the link unfortunately :/
[04:13] <flocrypt> sec
[04:14] <carlosqueso> but isn't unless there're some drivers that aren't installed out of the box
[04:14] <natex> Epix, you only need gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 playback
[04:14] <bimberi> !wireless
[04:14] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:14] <sun_> what's kernel use of ubuntu
[04:14] <bimberi> fluvvell: ^^^^
[04:14] <carlosqueso> bimberi...that's what it it
[04:14] <bimberi> sun_: breezy - 2.6.12
[04:14] <gnomefreak> hoary uses same no?
[04:14] <Sean89> Can somebody please help me mount a windows folder?
[04:15] <bimberi> gnomefreak: no, hoary uses 2.6.10
[04:15] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhhh to bimberi
[04:15] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:15] <bimberi> Sean89: Places -> Connect to Server
[04:15] <sun_> where to download it
[04:15] <holy_cow> carlosqueso, don't know, sorry :/
[04:15] <fluvvell> bimberi: no, its more the ubuntu tools im interested in, my hardware is supported and works.  I just need tools to fiddle with it, adjust and do things like reconnect when I've been out of range
[04:15] <sun_> bimberi,where to download it
[04:15] <crimsun> flocrypt: lsmod|grep ^snd_cmipci
[04:16] <bimberi> sun_: http://www.ubuntu.com (click on Download)
[04:16] <bimberi> fluvvell: network-manager might be worth a look then
[04:16] <gnomefreak> im not the brightest person but why would you need a kernel your operating system already has?
[04:16] <sun_> what's difference between breezy with linux kernel 2.6.12 download from www.kernel.org
[04:17] <natex> Sean89, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch05.html
[04:17] <flocrypt> ok i will try that
[04:17] <twisted_maple> crimsun: are you around?
[04:17] <glick> gnomefreak, what the heck you talkin bout?
[04:17] <bimberi> sun_: sorry, if you want the kernel sources - http://packages.ubuntu.com (thanks for the clue gnomefreak :) )
[04:17] <crimsun> sun_: Breezy's 2.6.12 isn't 2.6.12. It's 2.6.12+lots of patches.
[04:17] <yubimusubi> gnomefreak: for compiling kernel modules
[04:17] <crimsun> bimberi: (linux-source-2.6.12)
[04:17] <yubimusubi> gnomefreak: one's that aren't already in the kernel
[04:17] <gnomefreak> yw bimberi
[04:17] <glick> sun_,  the linux kernel from kernel.org is not an operating system
[04:17] <bimberi> crimsun: yep
[04:17] <glick> sun_, breezy is
[04:17] <gnomefreak> yubimusubi: ty
[04:18] <yubimusubi> gnomefreak: yw
[04:18] <twisted_maple> crimsun:  any thoughts on the AWE64 PNPDUMP I provided the night before last.  Still getting no device errors.
[04:18] <crimsun> twisted_maple: yes, but not for much longer (for a bit). I'm about to grab something to eat.
[04:18] <holy_cow> crimsun, and appearently the kernel headers don't match the kernel as of today, i couldn't compile some drivers for vmware after upgrade :/
[04:18] <crimsun> holy_cow: err what?
[04:18] <crimsun> breezy's frozen
[04:19] <holy_cow> crimsun, sure, but somethings out of whack, i haven't tracked it down yet exactly
[04:19] <crimsun> twisted_maple: ok, did you ever try reenabling pnp os and trying a simple ''sudo modprobe snd-sbawe''?
[04:19] <kip^> can someone help me with my wi-fi card - senao 2511, prism2 chipset
[04:19] <kip^> it's showing up twice - wlan0 and wifi0
[04:19] <twisted_maple> yup... did not work.
[04:20] <stevenj> Will some some expert please take a look at my xsession error and offer any suggestions, (I am thinking it might be common) thank you! http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3709
[04:20] <sun_> how to add these pathches to kernel
[04:20] <twisted_maple> crimsun: yup did not work.
[04:20] <sun_> glick,how to add pathches to kernel
[04:20] <crimsun> sun_: it's available already patched in the 'linux-source-2.6.12' package.
[04:20] <stevenj> Also this is a clean breezy install
[04:21] <twisted_maple> crimsun:  pulled out the AWE card and stuck in an old SB8.  Still cannot do modprobe snd-sb8.  I get device not found.
[04:21] <twisted_maple> crimsun:  Think technical solution is to get a PCI sound card and enjoy.
[04:21] <sun_> crimsun,i know,i want to know the process,not the result
[04:21] <kip^> and won't connect to anything - also how can i tell which drivers i'm using
[04:21] <fcfdj> ubuntu's install doesn't want to play with my computer i better call geek squad!
[04:21] <gnomefreak> stevenj: sorry but that wasnt the one ive seen im not real sure what that one is all about. does your xsession start when you boot up?
[04:21] <glick> sun_, you have to use the patch program, but its not a good idea to use vanilla kernels unless you know what you are doing.  If you have never written or debugged a file system, or a cpu scheduler, you don't know what your doing
[04:22] <glick> sun_, plus venders add their own patches that are iincompatible with vanilla patches
[04:22] <LincTeK> geek squad LOL
[04:22] <gnomefreak> fcfdj: good luck geek squad dont know crap about linux
[04:22] <flocrypt> snd_cmipci             30368  0
[04:22] <nvez> oooooooooooooooooooooooooh
[04:22] <nvez> apt-get moo
[04:22] <nvez> :D
[04:22] <loli`> what?
[04:22] <crimsun> sun_: dpatch is used for patch management.
[04:22] <fcfdj> i just saw the comerical on tv
[04:23] <fcfdj> i cant not spell
[04:23] <fcfdj> i did it again
[04:23] <crimsun> twisted_maple: hmm, the awe64 should work just fine. We must be missing a parameter.
[04:23] <twisted_maple> fcfdj:  It is a poor mind that can spell a word in only one way.
[04:23] <stevenj> gnomefreak, yes everything "seems" to working, I have found instances of the same think on ubuntu forums, and other forums but no solution or what it even means
[04:23] <twisted_maple> Crimsun: Why the device not found message?
[04:23] <fcfdj> i like that
[04:23] <stevenj> gnomefreak, yes everything I cant type tonight
[04:24] <twisted_maple> fcfdj:  Benjamin Franklin quote...
[04:24] <fcfdj> i was gonna say are you a philosopher
[04:24] <flocrypt> crimsun:  Hi, i did the code you gave me and I got this back: snd_cmipci             30368  0
[04:24] <crimsun> twisted_maple: see missing parameter statement I just made...
[04:24] <sun_> glick:)i see
[04:24] <flocrypt> whats next?
[04:24] <crimsun> flocrypt: cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:24] <glick> i wish they would make a ubuntu using the freebsd kernel
[04:24] <x_or> I have two disks which have exactly the same /boot/grub/menu.lst, but one won't boot.  Is there a way to verify the MBRs are the same?
[04:25] <gnomefreak> stevenj: have you tried re configuring you xorg file?
[04:25] <glick> they could call it fubuntu
[04:25] <sun_> crimsun,thanks
[04:25] <crimsun> glick: it's doable, since there's Debian GNU/kBSD
[04:25] <twisted_maple> crimsun:  I did not expect modprobe to be so terse.  Hoped it would say something more explicit like:  Dear User, You are forgetting parameter XXX.
[04:25] <flocrypt> crimsun: --- no soundcards ---
[04:25] <glick> crimsun, yeah i know its duable
[04:25] <stevenj> gnomefreak, I have'nt...I wonder what to look at
[04:25] <LincTeK> fcfdj : did you download ubuntu
[04:25] <glick> crimsun, would give people some more options,
[04:25] <fcfdj> yep
[04:25] <crimsun> twisted_maple: that's what's lovely about ISA"PNP"
[04:25] <LincTeK> did u ck the mdsums
[04:26] <glick> plus you never know how this SCO thing could turn out
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> crimsun: isa is not lovely, wash your mouth out :)
[04:26] <twisted_maple> fcfdj:  You dissappointed me.  You spelled Philospher incorrectly.  It is Filosefer.
[04:26] <propagandhi> anyone tried opera 9.0 beta or the Flock browser?
[04:26] <crimsun> HrdwrBoB: (of course it isn't ;-)
[04:26] <gnomefreak> stevenj: its been so long ago i cant remember command to get you to re config it but i do remember to reconfig it you need moniter keyboard and mouse info
[04:26] <flocrypt> crimsun... --- no soundcards ---  was the sad answer of my computer
[04:27] <twisted_maple> crimsun:  I will take a look at the ALSA params and keep slogging.  Thanks for the help.
[04:27] <crimsun> flocrypt: please paste the output from ''lspci -nv'' and ''lspci -v'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:27] <gnomefreak> gedit xsession/xorg? does that sound close?
[04:27] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:27] <x_or> Anyone know how to check the MBR of a disk?
[04:27] <flocrypt> crimsun: ok, thanx
[04:27] <stevenj> gnomefreak, I mean I have it opened in gedit, just not sure what to look for :)
[04:28] <intelikey> x_or check for ?
[04:28] <gnomefreak> stevenj: just re do the settings make sure ur moniter is right so on and so forth
[04:28] <x_or> intellikey:  I have two disks, with I hope identical installs.  One boots, and the other doesn't.
[04:28] <fcfdj> via torrent
[04:28] <x_or> So, I am trying to investigate the mbr, to see if they are different.
[04:29] <Hobbsee> x_or: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:29] <gnomefreak> stevenj: that fixed the problem everyone had with X a while back hopping it will yours too but no harm in trying
[04:29] <Hobbsee> x_or: is where it's located
[04:29] <ozzy_cow> hey guys, I'm trying to mount ntfs partition and after using the winmac utility from the wiki, but I'm unable to write to the partition
[04:29] <stevenj> gnomefreak, thanks at least its a place to start
[04:29] <x_or> Hobbsee:  I diffed that with the existing (both are now plugged in and mounted) but there is no difference.
[04:29] <gnomefreak> stevenj: yw
[04:30] <fcfdj> mdcums?
[04:30] <fcfdj> mdsums?
[04:30] <fcfdj> i just am going to let ubuntu do what it wishes regardless of the time i allow
[04:30] <fcfdj> i think the cdrom drivers were misinterpreted
[04:30] <ozzy_cow> I just checked the fstab file and it should mount writtable
[04:30] <Hobbsee> x_or: does sudo fdisk -l show the same thing on both machines?
[04:30] <sirmixalot> haha
[04:30] <sirmixalot> i needed something more unique
[04:30] <silasj> hi all
[04:31] <x_or> Hobbsee:  yep, identical, boot flag is set to /dev/hda1 and /dev/hdb1.
[04:31] <silasj> hey, what's the xinit start file?
[04:32] <intelikey> hmmm something like "cut -b100 /dev/hd? | less " and see if there is a boot loader on both  mbrs but you might also "cfdisk /dev/hd? " and see if they are both active.    i assume you do mean that one fails bios bootstrap booting.   else it is not a mbr problem it is a boot loader problem.
[04:32] <Hobbsee> x_or: hmmm
[04:32] <pietro_spina> has anyone here gotten bitmap fonts to work on breezy? I installed some and ran dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig. and no dice...
[04:32] <ReleaseX> bimberi: when i use the seveas repo i get a 403 error
[04:33] <odie5533> Is there anyway to reformat a thumb drive?
[04:33] <ozzy_cow> can anyone please help me with fstab problem
[04:33] <bimberi> ReleaseX: hang on, i'll try from here
[04:33] <Hobbsee> ozzy_cow: probably, but not till you ask
[04:33] <intelikey> ozzy_cow what ya trying to do in fstab ?
[04:33] <ozzy_cow> I used the winmac utility in the wiki
[04:34] <ozzy_cow> I'm trying to mount the windows ntfs partition
[04:34] <crimsun> glick: (you're straying pretty far off topic in -devel)
[04:34] <Hobbsee> ozzy_cow: post your /etc/fstab to the pastebin?
[04:34] <ozzy_cow> this is the entry /dev/hdc5 /media/0\040GB\040Disk\040(hdc5) ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[04:34] <ozzy_cow> but the partition is not writable
[04:35] <x_or> intellikey:  I am trying your suggestion.  I don't understand the difference btw bios bootstrap booting, and boot loader issues.  It seems that it gets into grub, but then gives error 18.
[04:35] <odie5533> How do I format a thumb/flash drive?
[04:35] <bimberi> ReleaseX: hm, downloading the deb starts ok for me - http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/breezy-extras/skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb
[04:35] <carlosqueso> question....does ubuntu have the required kernel source to compile a driver?
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> ozzy_cow, you want it to be writable ?
[04:35] <ozzy_cow> yes i do :-)
[04:35] <carlosqueso> or what package do I need to get it
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> ozzy_cow, you know its dagerous to write in ntfs ?
[04:36] <ozzy_cow> it is?
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> yes ...
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> !ntfs
[04:36] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:36] <flocrypt> crimsun: hi, I have pasted those outputs...
[04:36] <ozzy_cow> im not going to boot it in the windows ever
[04:36] <crimsun> flocrypt: k
[04:36] <ozzy_cow> i dont have enough disk space to convert it
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> ozzy_cow, i recommend not writing in ntfs partitions ... others might disagree though
[04:37] <iiiears> Hi crimsun, cafuego. :)
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> anyway you mounted as ro .. which means read only
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> if you want it to be writable ... change it to rw ... read write
[04:37] <ozzy_cow> oh... well the wiki is incorrect then
[04:37] <MattKrass> hey everyone
[04:37] <MattKrass> weird problem
[04:37] <iiiears> Hi wickedpuppy :)
[04:37] <MattKrass> I have a computer, old, I dont know hte exact specs on it
[04:37] <ozzy_cow> let me try that
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> yoz iiiears  :P
[04:38] <MattKrass> any ubuntu CD fails to install with corrupt file errors, whereas slack discs work fine
[04:38] <MattKrass> so do mandriva
[04:38] <pppoe_dude> so... um, how do i remount / to ext2? My hdd is making constant intermittent activity and i suspect it to be from ext3
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> ozzy_cow, thats my opinion anyway ... i usually use fat32 as my buffer between win and lin if i dual boot
[04:38] <MattKrass> but not ubuntu
[04:38] <MattKrass> the ubuntu discs work in every other comuter itn the room
[04:38] <MattKrass> and we swapped out the drive twice
[04:39] <iiiears> MatKrass - if you have linux installed lspci in a terminal will tell you a lot about it.  - if it is windows d/l the free util "everest" system monitor
[04:39] <MattKrass> but what could be causing such a problem?
[04:39] <x_or> Hobbsee/intellikey:  Is there a way to just rewrite the MBR using fdisk and make sure it is updated properly?  I could attempt a reboot and see if that helps.  The failing drive is plugged in as a slave onto the proper system, so I can run an MBR command from there.
[04:39] <flocrypt> crimsun: what does "k" mean (-:
[04:39] <Hobbsee> !tell x_or about reinstallgrub
[04:39] <Hobbsee> x_or: see the pm
[04:40] <intelikey> x_or linux mbr is written by lilo or grub-install  windows fat type mbr is written by ms "fdisk /mbr"
[04:41] <crimsun> flocrypt: it means "ok" -- I'm looking at it
[04:41] <WinZ> Does anybody know some gedit plugin for editing files on ftp-server and saving "directly" to server?
[04:41] <odie5533> Is there anyway to reformat a thumb drive on linux?
[04:41] <crimsun> flocrypt: please attach the contents of /proc/asound/card0/cmipci
[04:41] <sbalneav> odie5533: yes
[04:42] <x_or> odie5533:  "mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda1"  You can format like any other drive.
[04:42] <grodius> guys how do i artificially mount an ISO so I dont have to burn it (like alcohol 120 for windows)
[04:42] <odie5533> can I format it to ext3? how stable is vfat?
[04:42] <Tido> on the gui file management, how do I sudo?
[04:42] <sbalneav> odie5533: Do you want it to work on windows as well?
[04:42] <titanium> i'm having some trouble getting 'sendmail' to work on my ubuntu system. i've been reading some docs on postfix but it seems like it 'comes configured'. i would assume i need to set it up to use my ISP's smtp server though. could anyone give me a hand?
[04:42] <odie5533> Not really. Linux is fine, but I'd prefer ext3. How would I do ext3?
[04:42] <pppoe_dude> odie5533: or fdisk /dev/sda then make a fat partition and a linux partition, that way you can use it one an outside windows machine
[04:42] <x_or> odie5533: vfat is totally stable.
[04:42] <intelikey> btw x_or if you have grub on hda's mbr and run ms's fdisk /mbr  from anywhere it will over write the grub on hda.
[04:43] <odie5533> then whats the benefit of ext2/3 over vfat?
[04:43] <x_or> intellikey:  I don't have windows on either of these machines.
[04:43] <Hobbsee> x_or: then follow the PM that ubotu sent you, that explains how to do it from linux
[04:43] <intelikey> then why are you playing with mbr's x_or
[04:43] <sbalneav> odie5533: ext2/3 aloow for real file permissions/ownership
[04:43] <madsen> What's the trick to getting Beagle to search in pdfs?
[04:44] <x_or> intellikey:  because I don't know what i am doing?  :)
[04:44] <intelikey> :)  oh
[04:44] <madsen> It works fine on my Agnula/Debian, but on ubuntu it doesn't. :(
[04:44] <odie5533> sbalneav: How do I format it for ext3 and how would I format it for vfat?
[04:45] <intelikey> ok you have linux on two diferent disks and want grub to boot either install x_or ?    is that correct ?
[04:45] <pppoe_dude> odie5533, mkfs.vfat /dev/sda
[04:45] <grodius> How do I mount an ISO so I can play it, without burning it
[04:45] <madsen> odie5533: mkfs.ext3 /dev/<partition> for ext3, mkfs.vfat /dev/<partition> for vfat.
[04:45] <madsen> grodius: mount -t iso9660 -o loop <mount point> <iso image>
[04:45] <intelikey> grodius "mount -o loop <file.iso> /mount.point "
[04:46] <sbalneav> odie5533: Assuming the device is /dev/sda, then sudo /sbin/mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda1, or sudo /sbin/mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[04:46] <crimsun> flocrypt: apologies, but I have to scoot. I'll be back in an hour.
[04:46] <intelikey> type is not needed but doesn't hurt anything.
[04:46] <x_or> intellikey:  No, I have two (what I think to be, but must not be) identical installations of ubuntu.  One won't boot, the other will.  I assume when I installed I had the CD rom plugged in differently, or jumpers backwards, so it did something weird, like menu.lst point to wrong drive, but this is not the case, so I was just speculating that MBR was bad.
[04:46] <obk> how do i configure and use my wireless pcmcia card on my laptop in ubuntu
[04:46] <madsen> intelikey: true
[04:46] <obk> any help pls
[04:47] <carlosqueso> hey folks...quick question...where are kernel sources required to build NIC drivers
[04:47] <flocrypt> crimson: ok thank you so far...
[04:47] <pppoe_dude> obk, what kind of card?
[04:47] <madsen> grodius: And yeah, switch <mount point> and <iso> like intelikey said. :)
[04:47] <sizzam> if i switch from evolution to thunderbird, do i still need spamassassin?
[04:47] <obk> its a dlink 54g
[04:47] <flocrypt> by everyone....
[04:47] <madsen> sizzam: You never _need_ spamassassin...
[04:48] <madsen> sizzam: I don't have it for either, it's running on my mail server.
[04:48] <grodius> intelikey for mount point do i choose anything? like what
[04:48] <sizzam> let me rephrase:  does thunderbird use spamassassin for its spam filtering by default
[04:48] <gnomefreak> can you even set up spamassassin in thunderbird?
[04:48] <z3r0x> hi @ all
[04:48] <carlosqueso>  tbird has it's own spam system
[04:48] <hobbz> it has a filter sizzam
[04:48] <Discipulus> sizzam, no, spamassassin is to be used with a POP3 server
[04:48] <Hobbsee> hi z3r0x
[04:48] <intelikey> gordius any dir
[04:48] <z3r0x> I have a problem installing skype
[04:48] <Discipulus> sizzam, it has it's own filter
[04:48] <madsen> grodius: Make some dir in e.g. /mnt or /media - like /mnt/loop
[04:48] <sizzam> thanks
[04:48] <odie5533> If a file on an ext3 partition is given an owner, is there anyway of gaining access to read that file without knowing the correct un and pw of the owner?
[04:49] <grodius> whats the create folder command again madsen
[04:49] <z3r0x> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
[04:49] <z3r0x>  skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:
[04:49] <z3r0x>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[04:49] <tritium> grodius, mkdir
[04:49] <grodius> thx
[04:49] <madsen> odie5533: 'root'
[04:49] <obk> pppoe_dude, in my network settings , connections it says wlano is active but i can't connect thru it
[04:49] <sizzam> is there a better command to use to completely remove an application other than apt-get remove
[04:49] <madsen> odie5533: Why would you want to do that actually?
[04:49] <intelikey> be careful gordius mounting a fs over a dir with files makes the files in the dir unreachable as long as the fs is mounted there.
[04:49] <sizzam> i always feel like a lot of turds get left behind when i apt-get remove
[04:49] <pppoe_dude> obk, k... did u select the right access point?
[04:49] <hobbz> modprobe show alot of ko files.  and under file systems it has lots of file systems I dont use
[04:49] <hobbz> how do I remove these other ko files
[04:49] <tritium> sizzam, use the --purge option then
[04:49] <odie5533> madsen: I am just wondering if its possible to retrieve it, how secrure ownership is
[04:49] <madsen> sizzam: 'apt-get remove --purge <app>' (removes conf files as well).
[04:49] <obk> pppoe_dude, i am not sur abt it can u guide me pls
[04:50] <obk> sure*
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> obk, do "wlist scanning" and see what it gives you
[04:50] <madsen> odie5533: Well, root can read/write anything - others usually can't (unless they're allowed to).
[04:50] <tomfitzyuk> Which config file do I have to change to enable 32-bit emulation? I'm trying to run cube on a 64-bit processor and it says my processor doesn't have a supported cube client.
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> obk, if it gives you a lot of stuff then ull be able to get it to work easilu
[04:50] <intelikey> hobbz rmmod maybe
[04:50] <sizzam> thanks all
[04:50] <odie5533> madsen: Is there anyway for a non 'root' user to gain access to files they aren't supposed to have access to?
[04:51] <madsen> odie5533: If the permissions are: 600, then the owner may read/write and everyone else may do nothing. If it's 660, then the owner and the group of the file may read/write.
[04:51] <pppoe_dude> obk, iwlist*
[04:51] <andrew_> hallo
[04:52] <madsen> odie5533: Well, technically, yes, but practically, no. Then you'd be dealing with some badass cr4x0r. :)
[04:52] <hobbz> I think I should rephrase. I used to boot up in reiserfs and no error messages.
[04:52] <hobbz> now when I boot up I get "ext file system not found" then it does some vfs stuf
[04:52] <madsen> No one knows how to make beagle search in PDFs?
[04:52] <hobbz> then it find reiser.  Any idea why this is happening.
[04:52] <obk> wlist scanning it says cmd not found
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> obk, iwlist scanning
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> sorry
[04:53] <obk> i did iwlist i got a long list
[04:53] <geargolem> hello, how can I mount an hd2 if my /etc/fstab doesn't show it?
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> obk, k... are you connecting from an access point?
[04:53] <madsen> obk: actually, it's 'iwlist <device> scanning' I think...
[04:53] <sirmixalot> ubuntu is still running extremely slow
[04:53] <Hobbsee> !tell geargolem about mount
[04:53] <Antioch> Does anyone know if there is a config you can put in xorg.conf that sets the frequency?
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> madsen you can do iwlist scanning and it scans all of the
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> m
[04:53] <Hobbsee> !tell geargolem about windowsdrives
[04:53] <sirmixalot> its like my computer was purchased in the 70's
[04:54] <tritium> Antioch, frequency of what?
[04:54] <madsen> pppoe_dude: Oh, ok. I wasn't aware of that. Cool! :)
[04:54] <Antioch> frequency the monitor should run it
[04:54] <Antioch> Like, when you change your res in gnome it also lets you set the frequency
[04:54] <obk> i got lo , eth0, wlan0, sit0 for iwlist scanning
[04:54] <geargolem> Hobbsee, thanks!
[04:54] <e-sin> i just installed the two laptop-oriented applets from universe listed in this post: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/51 but they do not show up in the add applet dialog, though several other applets i installed at the same time did.  its kind of odd because its only the ones that they mentioned that i cant see
[04:54] <e-sin> ideas?
[04:54] <Hobbsee> geargolem: no problems
[04:54] <tritium> Antioch, HorizSync and VertRefresh?
[04:54] <obk> i got lo , eth0, wlan0, sit0 for iwlist scanning pppoe_dude
[04:54] <intelikey> nice i broke apt     :)
[04:54] <Antioch> tritium, I suppose those would be it...
[04:55] <iiiears> Is "make menuconfig" what i need to load "radio" in   /dev  so it becomes   /dev/radio?
[04:55] <pppoe_dude> wlan0 anything under wlan0? did it find any accesspoints?
[04:55] <tritium> Antioch, you can put those in the Monitor section
[04:55] <pppoe_dude> obk lol
[04:55] <nomasteryoda|w> my god... this MPC DVD drive is going to die before ubuntu boots...
[04:55] <nomasteryoda|w> ack
[04:55] <obk> pppoe_dude, it says no scan results
[04:55] <intelikey> yeah that's right i installed ubuntu again,   it may last the day...... prolly not.
[04:55] <obk> under wlan0
[04:55] <Antioch> I put vertrefresh in once and xorg compained when I tried to boot up.. whats the proper format of the numbers that follow them?
[04:55] <pppoe_dude> obk, is it turned on?
[04:56] <tritium> Antioch, man xorg.conf
[04:56] <Antioch> 
[04:56] <madsen> Beagle. Searcing in PDFs. How?
[04:56] <obk> yup it says the interface wlan0 is active in network connections
[04:56] <tritium> madsen, bribe with a dog biscuit?
[04:56] <Sean899> Newbie question but - What is the location of the desktop? For command purposes
[04:56] <ReleaseX> are the gdesklets-data fixed in breezy?
[04:56] <tritium> Sean89, ~/Desktop
[04:57] <madsen> tritium: No use, I tried giving him popplers (libpoppler) - didn't really work as expected. :-/
[04:57] <tritium> :(
[04:57] <ozzy_cow> hi, i changed my fstab and rebooted the computer but I'm still not able to write into ntfs
[04:57] <Alien|Freak> just a quick question..
[04:57] <tritium> ozzy_cow, that's a very risky thing to do
[04:57] <Alien|Freak> how do I install wpa_supplicant in ubuntu?
[04:57] <grodius> How do I change my resolution if system-prefs-screen resolutions doesnt have it?
[04:57] <e-sin> i didnt think you could write on ntfs period?
[04:58] <tritium> Alien|Freak, sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[04:58] <Alien|Freak> unless i'm not spelling it right.. apt-get install wpa_supplicant doesn't seem to want to work
[04:58] <robotgeek> grodius: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:58] <Alien|Freak> ah.. no _  thx tritium
[04:58] <Sean899> So how can I "cd desktop"?
[04:58] <Hobbsee> e-sin: there are a couple of programs that let you, but are known to occasoinally screw up the drives
[04:58] <tritium> Alien|Freak, apt-cache search supplicant would have found it
[04:58] <sirmixalot> does the sixth percent on insatlling ubuntu always take alot of time?
[04:58] <Hobbsee> Sean899: type it in a terminal
[04:58] <pppoe_dude> obk, no power switch on it? coz if there is an access point, it would either tell you "Cell 0...etc..." or "interface doesnt support scanning" if it didnt recognize your card
[04:58] <tritium> Sean899, cd ~/Desktop
[04:58] <e-sin> Sean899, cd ~/Desktop
[04:58] <WinZ> Sean899, cd ~/Desktop
[04:58] <ozzy_cow> tritium: ive accessed ntfs on my gentoo recovery cd countles times without a problem
[04:58] <madsen> Sean899: cd ~/Desktop
[04:59] <WinZ> ))
[04:59] <e-sin> or cd /home/Sean(oryourusername)/Desktop
[04:59] <ozzy_cow> is this ubutnu specific problem?
[04:59] <robotgeek> Alien|Freak: try a sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[04:59] <Alien|Freak> can't find package..
[04:59] <Alien|Freak> even without the _
[04:59] <tritium> !info wpasupplicant
[04:59] <obk> pppoe_dude, it is working when i use it in my  windows
[04:59] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: (Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.4.5-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 149 kB, Installed size: 404 kB
[04:59] <tritium> gotta go...
[04:59] <madsen> Alien|Freak: Got universe enabled?
[04:59] <Alien|Freak> E: Couldn't find package wpasupplicant
[04:59] <robotgeek> Alien|Freak: so, do u have the universe repository enabled?
[04:59] <Antioch> tritium, is there also a config for the dot clock frequency?
[04:59] <pppoe_dude> obk, k gimme a sec
[04:59] <geargolem> Hobbsee, mounted. :)  But instead of files I see 'lost+found'??
[04:59] <obk> k
[05:00] <Alien|Freak> probably not.. new install. i'm really new at Debian's admin system
[05:00] <Alien|Freak> how do I enable universe?
[05:00] <ozzy_cow> any idea why I can't write to the ntfs partition?
[05:00] <robotgeek> !tell Alien|Freak about repos
[05:00] <madsen> !tell Alien|Freak about repos
[05:00] <Hobbsee> !tell ozzy_cow about ntfs
[05:00] <Alien|Freak> ozzy_cow, you shouldn't be able to..
[05:00] <Madpilot> ozzy_cow: NTFS  is read-only
[05:00] <linuxgeek2> hi folks
[05:00] <grodius> robotgeek what if the list it gives me to select still doesnt have my resolution
[05:00] <e-sin> ozzy_cow, you can convert it to FAT
[05:00] <ozzy_cow> there is no way to write to it? i have done it before in gentoo, it just worked
[05:01] <linuxgeek2> I just installed ubuntu howevers
[05:01] <grodius> 1300X768 widescreen is what im looking for robotgeek
[05:01] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to change the background color or background with openbox?
[05:01] <linuxgeek2> I am not able to get into root
[05:01] <linuxgeek2> account
[05:01] <linuxgeek2> Coz I dunno the password
[05:01] <linuxgeek2> help
[05:01] <e-sin> linuxgeek2, it's disabled by default
[05:01] <Madpilot> linuxgeek2: there is no root in Ubuntu, use sudo instead
[05:01] <madsen> linuxgeek2: You don't, use 'sudo'.
[05:01] <ozzy_cow> can i convert it to ext3 or something like that?
[05:01] <Madpilot> !tell linuxgeek2 about root
[05:01] <robotgeek> grodius: put in in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but make sure you make a backup first
[05:01] <intelikey> Madpilot you lie.
[05:01] <pppoe_dude> obk, whats the model number? is it a G650?
[05:01] <geargolem> I mounted a second hd but my files show up as 'lost+found'.  How do I set permission to the new directory?
[05:01] <intelikey> there is root.
[05:01] <e-sin> ozzy_cow, im pretty sure not
[05:01] <Alien|Freak> write access on ntfs is "experimental" at best
[05:01] <linuxgeek2> and one more thing
[05:01] <intelikey> only the passwd may not be set.
[05:02] <Madpilot> intelikey: no, I'm just simplifying things...
[05:02] <linuxgeek2> is I have a compaq presario laptop with bg 2200 wireless card
[05:02] <Baldev> Anyone want to help me with my problem..
[05:02] <grodius> robotgeek how to i backup
[05:02] <obk> pppoe_dude, g650+
[05:02] <linuxgeek2> it is detected but I am not able to set it up
[05:02] <linuxgeek2> plz help me
[05:02] <Baldev> When I boot into ubuntu
[05:02] <obk> dwl-g650+
[05:02] <linuxgeek2> I am new to ubuntu
[05:02] <robotgeek> grodius: 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[05:02] <Baldev> I get a gray screen with lines.. and a cursor which is a grey X....
[05:02] <intelikey> to set root passwd "sudo passwd "   when it asks for your passwd type your user account password in and then set the root passwd.
[05:02] <tristanmike> cd
[05:03] <geargolem> ! tell geargolem about permissions
[05:03] <ubotu> geargolem: Not a clue
[05:04] <Hobbsee> !tell geargolem about chmod
[05:04] <pppoe_dude> obk, try "apt-get install hostapd" and see what happens...
[05:04] <e-sin> Baldev, it doesnt go any further than that?
[05:04] <obk> k
[05:04] <federico_> Why are my chances of buying an optical USB mouse and have it working on Breezy?
[05:04] <pppoe_dude> obk, make sure you do ifdown wlan0, ifup wlan0
[05:05] <Madpilot> federico_: probably very good. My MS optical USB mouse runs perfectly
[05:05] <federico_> I mean "what are"
[05:05] <robotgeek> Baldev: can u restart the machine and see if the same issue comes up? That apparently solved the issue for one user
[05:05] <natex> federico_, chances are good
[05:05] <intelikey> i have never yet installed ubuntu without setting the root password while installing.
[05:05] <sirmixalot> does the sixth percent on insatlling ubuntu always take alot of time?
[05:05] <Baldev> Oh Iv'e restarted many times
[05:05] <Baldev> Actually
[05:05] <obk> pppoe_dude, E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:05] <luis__> speaking of installing ubuntu :)
[05:05] <Baldev> It dosen't even boot into the "GUI" anymore
[05:05] <obk> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:05] <federico_> are there many different mouse protocols? should I stick to MS compatible?
[05:05] <luis__> is there any way to check the install media?
[05:05] <Sean899> Another  stupid question. I have a mount on my desktop but I want to move it to /mnt/ how can I go about doing this? Thanks alot guys!
[05:05] <Baldev> It just goes into the console
[05:05] <pppoe_dude> obk, as root or "sudo"
[05:05] <robotgeek> federico_: basic functionality of the mouse is virtually assured. the 'special' buttons may take some work
[05:06] <Baldev> I can open X
[05:06] <e-sin> federico_, all of my mice have always just worked in any linux i've used.  i think ur safe as long as it's fairly standard
[05:06] <Baldev> But then it does what I described before
[05:06] <intelikey> luis__ durring install yes.   select  expert install method and test the cd is an option
[05:06] <linuxgeek2> Plz help me
[05:06] <e-sin> Baldev, it just sits there/
[05:06] <linuxgeek2> If I give sudo passwd
[05:06] <Baldev> yea.. If I do ctrl+alt+bkspc
[05:06] <obk> pppoe_dude, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:06] <obk> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:06] <Baldev> obk
[05:07] <Baldev> Close your terminal, or maybe synaptic
[05:07] <linuxgeek2> it says "unable to lookup ash by gethostname()
[05:07] <linuxgeek2> it says "unable to lookup ash by gethostname()
[05:07] <Baldev> well
[05:07] <bimberi> obk: close synaptic
[05:07] <linuxgeek2> it says "unable to lookup ash by gethostname() when I give sudo passwd
[05:07] <luis__> intelikey: thanks
[05:07] <obk> synaptic?
[05:07] <pppoe_dude> obk, do you have synaptic open? maybe update manager is doing something?
[05:07] <Baldev> Oh my
[05:07] <Madpilot> linuxgeek2: with sudo, you don't use a root pw, you use your own user's pw
[05:07] <obk> ya updates going on
[05:07] <obk> ok i will close it
[05:07] <Baldev> You can really only use one method at a time.
[05:07] <bimberi> obk: no, wait for updates to finish
[05:07] <federico_> OK, I'll grab my wallet tomorow... Is there a tool to select the mosue type? In Fedora there was mouseconfig
[05:07] <e-sin> obk, anything dealing with packages has to be closed if you want to use something else to deal with them
[05:07] <Baldev> AFAIK.
[05:08] <obk> oh ok
[05:08] <linuxgeek2> so Madpilot u mean sudo <username> or sudo <passwd>
[05:08] <natex> anyone know of a way to have nautilus open a terminal at a current directory?
[05:08] <grodius> robotgeek how do i edit the .conf file
[05:08] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:08] <linuxgeek2> which one
[05:08] <grodius> robotgeek whats the command
[05:08] <Sean899> Another  stupid question. I have a mount on my desktop but I want to move it to /mnt/ how can I go about doing this? Thanks alot guys!
[05:08] <obk> it says 45 min more for updates shall  i close it , i can do it later
[05:08] <dtrizzle> Anybody, is there a way to skip cirtain start up task ubuntu automatically goes?
[05:08] <linuxgeek2> Guys plz help I am a new user and I have couple of problems with Ubuntu
[05:08] <Madpilot> linuxgeek2: if you read that URL that ubotu sent you, it should answer most of your questoins
[05:08] <professor_chaos> why is ubuntu overwriting my DNS addresses??
[05:08] <robotgeek> you would edit in gedit, gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:09] <pppoe_dude> obk, either way up to you :P
[05:09] <madsen> Sean899: Try 'df -h' and look if it isn't already mounted there...
[05:09] <linuxgeek2> can some one tell me the URL again
[05:09] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:09] <professor_chaos> if I change /etc/resolv.conf.... it changes back
[05:09] <linuxgeek2> can some one tell me the URL again
[05:09] <linuxgeek2> can some one tell me the URL again
[05:09] <mustard5> linuxboy, it looks like your sudo is busted, I've seen threads in the forum regarding this
[05:09] <dtrizzle> whenever i boot up, ubuntu takes like 5 minutes because it looks for my previous wireless access point
[05:09] <dtrizzle> is there a way to make it skip looking for the network
[05:09] <e-sin> Sean899, if you edit /etc/fstab you can change the mount locations of your drives, as long as the directories you're mounting to already exist.
[05:09] <madsen> Sean899: The icons on the desktop are usually just references to the device.
[05:09] <Madpilot> !tell linuxgeek2 about root
[05:09] <obk> k i closed it and tried
[05:09] <bimberi> obk: sure you can
[05:09] <obk> pppoe_dude, Reading package lists... Done
[05:09] <obk> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:09] <obk> E: Couldn't find package hostapd
[05:10] <mustard5> doh wrong person
[05:10] <iiiears> fedrico, - there are two ways i think - edit XORG.CONF or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  (clumsy becaUSE YOU ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR DISPLAY AND VIDEO CARD)
[05:10] <pppoe_dude> obk, do an apt-get update
[05:10] <mustard5> linuxboy, ignore that wrong person
[05:10] <pppoe_dude> "sudo
[05:10] <iiiears> ERM - APOLOGIES FOR CAPS...
[05:10] <obk> done update
[05:10] <iiiears> nvm - a nap is needed - lol
[05:11] <pppoe_dude> obk then try it
[05:11] <grodius> robotgeek i'm afraid i dont understand still, after opening with gedit Its blank, how would i add the ability to run 1300x768 res
[05:11] <pppoe_dude> obk, oh wait... did you just install ubuntu?
[05:11] <dtrizzle> hi all, i'm a new ubuntu user...how can i make ubuntu skip looking for an access point at boot up?
[05:11] <dtrizzle> it takes 5 minutes or so because it looks for my old access point
[05:11] <dtrizzle> is there a way to skip this process?
[05:11] <obk> well  a week back but didnt used it till now
[05:11] <intelikey> ok i've had it with this junk..... time to reinstall a real system.
[05:12] <dtrizzle> anybody...?
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> obk, k... make sure you uncomment the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list then do sudo apt-get update
[05:12] <professor_chaos> dtrizzle, you can comment out the part "auto ???" in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:12] <madsen> dtrizzle: Perhaps System -> Administration -> Services ? (I'm not sure.)
[05:12] <madsen> dtrizzle: Yeah, listen to professor_chaos. :)
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> obk, anything starting with "deb"
[05:12] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, read this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72586&highlight=unable+lookup+gethostname%28%29
[05:12] <dtrizzle> ok, i'll give that i try
[05:12] <bimberi> dtrizzle: i vote for commenting out auto's in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:13] <dtrizzle> if i do that, will i still be able to activate my wireless network after boot up?
[05:13] <bimberi> dtrizzle: yes
[05:13] <dtrizzle> ok ok, thank you all
[05:13] <dtrizzle> imma try now
[05:13] <dtrizzle> im brand new to ubuntu and just wanted to say the the community is really great
[05:13] <e-sin> dtrizzle, best part about it, init?
[05:14] <mega> anything here from brazil?!
[05:14] <bimberi> dtrizzle: onya!
[05:14] <pppoe_dude> obk, i can send you the deb package if you want
[05:14] <lancer285> hey guys, is there a way to make certain windows frameless??
[05:14] <dtrizzle> yeah, it really is
[05:14] <obk> pppoe_dude, i opened sources.list and i can see some deb lines are commented but cant edit that file
[05:14] <obk> sure pls pppoe_dude
[05:14] <pppoe_dude> obk, k you have to do it as root or sudo if you want to edit it. but i'll send you the file
[05:14] <madsen> obk: How did you open it?
[05:14] <lancer285> obk did you run sudo ?
[05:14] <mustard5> lancer285, I have read some 'hack' where you can make a terminal window with no borders and transparent background
[05:14] <lsald> obk, you need to sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <sirmixalot> i can not even get ubuntu to install
[05:15] <mega> anybody here from brazil?!
[05:15] <propagandhi> what compiler do you use to compile C code
[05:15] <madsen> lancer285: You can do it with fluxbox - but I don't think metacity can.
[05:15] <madsen> !br
[05:15] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[05:15] <lancer285> mustard5, I was thinking like KDE where you could select 'no frame' on any given window. can't do that in gnome?
[05:15] <lsald> propagandhi, gcc
[05:15] <mustard5> lancer285, don't know really
[05:15] <lancer285> mustard5, okay thanks (:
[05:15] <pppoe_dude> obk, now do a dpkg -i hostapd_1%3a0.4.2-1_i386.deb
[05:15] <grodius> Can anyone help me change my resultion the autoconfig doesnt have the correct resolution
[05:15] <madsen> lancer285: Not in gnome with metacity as the window manager.
[05:16] <GnarlyBob> Note: ubuntu-users mailing list appears to be hosed
[05:16] <pppoe_dude> obk, as sudo
[05:16] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, did you get my message earlier?  You didnt reply
[05:16] <GnarlyBob> receiving massive numbers from "Ubuntu China"
[05:16] <skreet> Is it no longer possible to download Kubuntu by using synaptic from a Ubuntu installation?
[05:16] <MrCroup> lancer285: if you use enlightenment as your window manager you can do it with eterm for the terminal
[05:16] <skreet> I dont seem to have kubuntu packages available.
[05:16] <pppoe_dude> skreet did u try kubuntu-desktop?
[05:16] <Xenguy> grodius: try reducing colours (worked for me)
[05:16] <lancer285> MrCroup, okay
[05:16] <mustard5> skreet, I would think it is possible still
[05:16] <skreet> pppoe_dude, I did a search in Synaptic for kubuntu
[05:16] <bimberi> sirmixalot: you might have a bad CD?
[05:16] <lsald> !tell skreet KDE
[05:16] <Xenguy> grodius: (if that is your issue)
[05:17] <bimberi> skreet: i can see kubuntu-desktop
[05:17] <skreet> bimberi, Hm, let me check my repos.
[05:17] <pppoe_dude> skreet do you have repos set up?
[05:17] <lsald> yea, that's it
[05:17] <grodius> xenguy reducing colors? My issue is that my resolution is too low, and when i do the autoconfig it doesnt find a resolution thats good either
[05:17] <GnarlyBob> or not... it stopped
[05:17] <MrCroup> lancer285: the gnome terminal can be transparent but the window manager controls the frame
[05:17] <robitaille> GnarlyBob,  yeah, it seems somene subscribed ubuntu-user@ubuntu.org.cn to the Ubuntu list, and send the emails to the list...
[05:17] <skreet> pppoe_dude, Shit, i'm an idiot. I'm still using CD Repos only... lol
[05:17] <pppoe_dude> skreet lol
[05:18] <pppoe_dude> skreet usually the case
[05:18] <lancer285> MrCroup, okay. I was hoping that I could have some games windowed, but w/o frames. I did it w/ kde, but I guess I'll live w/o it. Is there a way to tell gnome to remember the position of windows?
[05:18] <RancidLM> hey all
[05:18] <GnarlyBob> robitaille: was trying to head off what could have been an ugly little loop
[05:18] <skreet> pppoe_dude, Are you saying it's usually the case that people forget their repos, or it's usually the case that I'm an idiot? :)
[05:18] <pppoe_dude> skreet obviously the repo part
[05:18] <Xenguy> skreet: careful :-)
[05:18] <MrCroup> lancer285: xinitrc is the old school way to do it
[05:19] <mustard5> lancer285, I was under the impression it did that automatically
[05:19] <skreet> Xenguy, ?
[05:19] <madsen> Arg! Ffs! Why doesn't beagle just index my pdfs?!? It does on Agnula/Debian...
[05:19] <sirmixalot> has any one ever had problems installing the base system??
[05:19] <professor_chaos> lancer285, I took me a minute to find it, but heres the way.... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38938
[05:19] <lancer285> mustard5, I always have to move the window up so I don't see the fram.
[05:19] <madsen> sirmixalot: What's your problem?
[05:19] <Xenguy> MrCroup: what is the real difference between ~/.xinitrc and ~/.session ?
[05:19] <pppoe_dude> obk, anything?
[05:19] <Xenguy> skreet: press delete :-)
[05:19] <obk> no
[05:19] <sirmixalot> at six percent it just slows down
[05:19] <RancidLM> im hatin the current distro on my laptop.. its a big named distro and had Bootdisks..  my laptop has a broken cdrom and i have to use a external USB one.. is there any boot floopy's that i can use to load ubuntu installer and have it install off my usb cdr ?
[05:20] <sirmixalot> then it quits on a couple files
[05:20] <mustard5> lancer285, hmm k...gnome seems to remember position and size on mine..maybe I just haven't noticed it doesnt yet :D
[05:20] <sirmixalot> i downloaded it off of the ubuntu site
[05:20] <MrCroup> Xenguy: got me, tweaking X isn't really my thing
[05:20] <grodius> how do i change my resolution? Can anyone help?
[05:20] <madsen> sirmixalot: Hmm, what files and does it say why?
[05:20] <sirmixalot> 5.10
[05:20] <freddy> hello
[05:20] <spy> Hi
[05:20] <lancer285> professor_chaos, thanks, I'll take a look at that
[05:20] <robotgeek_away> grodius: gimme a min
[05:20] <grodius> k
[05:20] <sirmixalot> uhmm i dont remember specifically
[05:20] <pppoe_dude> obk, did it install? this is all i can think of...
[05:20] <Xenguy> MrCroup: OK, I was responding to your comment about 'old school', is all
[05:20] <freddy> i dont get it...is ubuntu hoary spose to have a burning appl by default? i cant seem to find it
[05:20] <RancidLM> so ya.. any bootfloppy's for ubuntu?
[05:21] <mustard5> freddy, usually when you put in a blank it opens up a directory for burning
[05:21] <MrCroup> Xenguy: its just how I did it with Solaris a very long time ago
[05:21] <bimberi> freddy: nautilus (the file manager) can burn data cd's and isos
[05:21] <Sean899> Madsen: Can you please give me a command that work with the livecd that allows you to mount network folders?
[05:21] <freddy> mustard5, yeah, i saw that but i was thinking if that was like the windows xp one, and i wanted to see if there was something more reliable like easy cd creator like program
[05:22] <madsen> Sean899: samba folders?
[05:22] <Sean899> yes
[05:22] <Xenguy> MrCroup: nod - I ask only because I still don't understand that real difference between those 2 files, other than ~/.xsession seems to be the preferred method these days
[05:22] <obk> pppoe_dude, Selecting previously deselected package hostapd.
[05:22] <mustard5> freddy, there are a number of other burners available through synaptic
[05:22] <obk> (Reading database ... 60718 files and directories currently installed.)
[05:22] <obk> Unpacking hostapd (from hostapd_1%3a0.4.2-1_i386.deb) ...
[05:22] <obk> Setting up hostapd (0.4.2-1) ...
[05:22] <obk> Starting advanced IEEE 802.11 management: disabled via /etc/default/hostapd
[05:22] <umif> pagi say.....
[05:22] <mustard5> no pasting in main channel obk :)
[05:22] <freddy> mustard5, oh cool, recommendation?
[05:22] <professor_chaos> freddy, what do you mean by reliable
[05:22] <obk> k sorry
[05:22] <mustard5> freddy, me thinks....
[05:22] <lsald> grodius, you can change the res in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:22] <pppoe_dude> obk coo... so it installed
[05:22] <MrCroup> Xenguy: I'm sure there's a really good explanation as to why they are different but I don't know it
[05:23] <madsen> Sean899: smbmount <share e.g. //server/share> <mount point> -o username=<username>
[05:23] <bimberi> freddy: nothing else by default, but you can install gnomebaker (or graveman or k3b)
[05:23] <mustard5> freddy, gnomebaker?
[05:23] <spy> For Repositories should all the (Universe) check box's be c hecked or only a few ?
[05:23] <obk> pppoe_dude, wat will be next
[05:23] <robotgeek> grodius: 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[05:23] <Xenguy> MrCroup: time for a google session me thinks :-)
[05:23] <madsen> Sean899: You might have to stick "sudo" in front of it depending on the mount point (I think).
[05:23] <pppoe_dude> now try sudo iwlist scanning
[05:23] <spy> Im tryin to install a media playrr to mp3's?
[05:23] <freddy> professor_chaos, oh like something more trusteable
[05:23] <umif> bbbbbbbbbb
[05:23] <freddy> sorry english is not my first language
[05:23] <freddy> mustard5, gonna try that then
[05:24] <mustard5> freddy, good luck :)
[05:24] <Sean899> Madsen: The problem is that smbmount does not work with the livecd
[05:24] <professor_chaos> freddy, no, you used the right word, its just that I think nautilus burns fine for data cds and dvd.
[05:24] <robotgeek> grodius: there's a list of things to do in this wiki article, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:24] <obk> pppoe_dude, i pasted the msg in ur pm
[05:24] <freddy> professor_chaos, oh, cool
[05:24] <spy> For Repositories should all the (Universe) check box's be c hecked or only a few ?
[05:24] <spy> Im tryin to install a media playrr to mp3's?
[05:24] <sirmixalot> madsen i was reading a froum and that the problem might be the dvd drive
[05:24] <pppoe_dude> obk i didnt get a pm
[05:25] <pppoe_dude> obk, dcc me
[05:25] <sirmixalot> i will try to install on the cdrw drive
[05:25] <professor_chaos> freddy, but gnomebaker and k3b are what I use most often.
[05:25] <madsen> Sean899: Hmm, what about nautilus? It should have an option to connect to a network share... Places -> Connect to Server...
[05:25] <sirmixalot> if i can get it to but from that
[05:25] <sirmixalot> boot
[05:25] <freddy> im having problems trying to install gnomebaker
[05:25] <madsen> sirmixalot: Hmm, ok. Well, good luck then! :)
[05:25] <bimberi> spy: rhythmbox is already installed and will play mp3s after you follow the instructions under Codecs here - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:25] <freddy> hrmm
[05:25] <mustard5> ubotu: tell spy about mp3
[05:25] <spy> ok
[05:25] <freddy> im getting a LOT of unmet dependecies
[05:25] <robotgeek> grodius: got that link?
[05:25] <mustard5> freddy, enable extra repositories
[05:25] <pppoe_dude> obk, is it a different message? does it hace a CELL in it?
[05:25] <sirmixalot> i thought ubuntu was supposed to be more user friendly i has no problem with redhat 7 years ago
[05:26] <professor_chaos> freddy, how are you installing?
[05:26] <obk> k the msg as before for iwlist scanning pppoe_dude
[05:26] <mustard5> ubotu: tell freddy about repositories
[05:26] <obk> no same as before
[05:26] <Sean899> Madsen: No it just allow Windows Shares
[05:26] <freddy> professor_chaos, sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[05:26] <grodius> robotgeek not loading i don tknow why hold on
[05:26] <madsen> Sean899: Samba IS window shares-.
[05:26] <robotgeek> grodius: i gotta go now, i will be back later. sorry :(
[05:26] <sizzam> sirmixalot: in my opinion, the user community makes ubuntu the best distro,  with sites like ubuntuguide.org and ubuntuforums.org
[05:27] <pppoe_dude> obk, k... im out of ideas.. sorry :(, try taking it out then back in, see if it changes iwlist scanning
[05:27] <pppoe_dude> obk, after you put it back in, type "dmesg" and paste me the last line
[05:27] <professor_chaos> freddy, synaptic with resolve you dependencies for you, if you have the right repositories enabled.
[05:28] <[Spooky] > ubuntu-desktop is critical to have ?
[05:28] <madsen> [Spooky] : During upgrades, yes.
[05:28] !lilo:*! Well, inadvertently-major upgrade in process on http://freenode.net/ 8)
[05:28] <mustard5> [Spooky] , its a metapackage its ok to uninstall...just reinstall when you upgrade your distribution
[05:28] <obk> pppoe_dude, [4301979.554000]  acx_probe_pci: TI acx_pci.o: Ver 0.2.0pre8 loaded successfully
[05:29] <[Spooky] > mustard5: ok, i want to uninstall Totem...
[05:29] <[Spooky] > i will try...
[05:29] <pppoe_dude> obk, line before that too plz.
[05:29] <mustard5> [Spooky] , whats wrong with Totem?
[05:29] <mustard5> :)
[05:29] <obk> [4301979.554000]  creating /proc entry driver/acx_wlan0_phy
[05:30] <obk> i got 3 more lines related to wlan0
[05:30] <linuxgeek2> finally gained access into my root account. I am actually not able to get connected to my to my wireless internet My card is bg 2200 intel
[05:30] <[Spooky] > mustard5: well i never use it...
[05:30] <pppoe_dude> obk, anything erroneous looking?
[05:30] <linuxgeek2> on my compaq laptop
[05:30] <mustard5> [Spooky] , k :)
[05:30] <obk> no pppoe_dude
[05:30] <lamb> hi, do any of you can tell me how to install a dif splash screen in breezy?
[05:30] <linuxgeek2> however the card is detected
[05:30] <mustard5> ubotu: tell linuxgeek2 about wifi
[05:30] <pppoe_dude> obk, did you try iwlist scanning after replugging it?
[05:31] <obk> not yet just tried dmedg
[05:31] <pppoe_dude> try it
[05:31] <obk> mesg*
[05:31] <mustard5> ubotu: tell linuxgeek2 about wireless
[05:31] <obk> got diff msg
[05:31] <obk> now
[05:31] <pppoe_dude> any cells?
[05:31] <linuxgeek2> thanks mustard5
[05:31] <RancidLM> can i use debian boot floppy's to load the ubuntu installer off a USB external cdrom... i needa find  a way to install ubuntu some how on this system
[05:31] <Mabus01> hi mustard5
[05:31] <mustard5> np ;)
[05:31] <obk> no it says wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Resource temporarily unavailable
[05:31] <linuxgeek2> I love u guys ur very helpful
[05:31] <mustard5> come back if you have issues linuxgeek2
[05:32] <ubuntu> hey
[05:32] <ubuntu> gah
[05:32] <mustard5> hey Mabus01 :)
[05:32] <lamb> coudl someone help me change the splash screen in ubuntu please
[05:32] <pppoe_dude> obk.. hmm, weird... try sudo iwlist scanning
[05:32] <Modi|help> i need help with grub
[05:32] <mustard5> Mabus01, all going well on your install now?
[05:32] <obk> thast wat i did pppoe_dude
[05:32] <e-sin> RancidLM, no cd-rom?
[05:32] <Modi|help> i gotta remove the boot path entry
[05:33] <intelikey> RancidLM if you had another box there somewhere, you could pull the hd plug it into the other box, install and then put the drive back for the reboot.
[05:33] <pppoe_dude> obk, ok... out of ideas.... try a reboot? then try googling your model + ubuntu
[05:33] <Modi|help> i installed it but needed the hdd space,filled up my 80
[05:33] <pppoe_dude> obk, sorry man :(
[05:33] <e-sin> RancidLM, breezy supports network installs...i have no idea how to do it, but if you could use another computer you could do it over the network
[05:33] <RancidLM> e-sin: a broken cdrom on a laptop.. i have a external cdrom (usb) but i don't have a usb boot option..normaly with suse or mandrake i justed used like 7bootdisks.. or a net install boot disk.. but just looking for something like that for ubuntu
[05:33] <Mabus01> no mustard5
[05:33] <Mabus01> I cannot get the nvidia to work
[05:34] <obk> if i do without sudo it says wlan0     Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable
[05:34] <obk>  pppoe_dude
[05:34] <sundae1888> hello all
[05:34] <Modi|help> so i formatted the 60 i have ubuntu installed on
[05:34] <sizzam> lamb:  check this howto out:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82835
[05:34] <Modi|help> BUT
[05:34] <WebLOCH> Anyone here specifically familiar with the Direct Connect Protocol and clients ?
[05:34] <mustard5> Mabus01, I am reading quite a number of threads on the forum with the same issue lately
[05:34] <Modi|help> grub i still in the boot path and errors out on me
[05:34] <Mabus01> I'm having no troubles using linux though, I'm on t right now
[05:34] <pppoe_dude> obk, it seems like something with the drives
[05:34] <mustard5> Mabus01, if you want to cruise over to ubuntuforums you might be able go see how others finally solve the issue
[05:34] <pppoe_dude> *drivers...
[05:34] <Mabus01> It's just the geforce.
[05:35] <sundae1888> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a Thinkpad 390E (P2-300 / 128MB), but I'm getting kernal panic
[05:35] <RancidLM> e-sin: does ubutnu have a ftp floppy installer.. ?
[05:35] <Xenguy> MrCroup: hrm, symlink from .xinitrc to .xsession appears to be a popular solution (but make .xsession executable also)
[05:35] <e-sin> not that i know of, but that doesn't mean no
[05:35] <Mabus01> I have googled extensively, mustard5... the people with the same problem as me never seen to come up with a solution.
[05:35] <intelikey> RancidLM one word "loadlin "    boot the install cd from your hd.
[05:35] <obk> no worries pppoe_dude . i will keep trying
[05:35] <obk> thx for ur patience
[05:35] <pppoe_dude> obk no prob, ill let you know if i think of something
[05:35] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, whats the problem?
[05:35] <obk> i wont sleep without making it work or i will never use ubuntu again
[05:35] <mustard5> Mabus01, yep...I was reading at least two threads in the forums today with people having same issue...I'm at a loss, because I am running nvidia card with no problems
[05:36] <YokoZar> Wine 0.9 package: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[05:36] <Xenguy> obk: the guantlet has been thrown down :-)
[05:36] <pppoe_dude> lol
[05:36] <Mabus01> professor_chaos: I cannot get linux to run using geforce
[05:36] <intelikey> RancidLM one word "loadlin.exe" google it.  and boot the install cd from your hd.
[05:36] <mustard5> Mabus01, you can be assured many minds are on the problem somewhere out there :)
[05:36] <RancidLM> intellikey: ill google it
[05:36] <sundae1888> anyone has the slightest idea of why i'd get kernel panic when booting x86 live & x86 install of breezy?
[05:36] <pppoe_dude> obk, blame the company who made the card, not ubuntu
[05:36] <YokoZar> sundae1888: do you have an x86?
[05:36] <YokoZar> hehe
[05:36] <YokoZar> And what kind of kernel panic?
[05:36] <obk> well its not that bad card
[05:37] <Modi|help> umm lil help
[05:37] <sundae1888> it's a p2-300 :P
[05:37] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, what problems/errors?
[05:37] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, what have you tried
[05:37] <Mabus01> Freezes at "starting hotplug subsystem"
[05:37] <Mabus01> Tried installing nvidia from synaptic.
[05:37] <linuxgeek2> how do I launch network admin
[05:37] <Mabus01> Tried installing nvidia from the nvidia site.
[05:37] <e-sin> im off
[05:37] <Xenguy> Mabus01: hardware issue ?
[05:37] <WebLOCH> Mabus01, what keyboard set do you have?
[05:37] <e-sin> good luck everyone :)
[05:37] <linuxgeek2> I go to apllications -> system tools -> network tools
[05:37] <Mabus01> Tried not using a driver, and running it anyway.
[05:37] <intelikey> RancidLM also if you have any linux installed on the hd you could use lilo or grub to kickstart the cd  but i would have to do some diging to even begin to help with that.
[05:37] <Lord> when a set the password root in ubuntu 5.10???
[05:37] <linuxgeek2> is that the one
[05:37] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:37] <pppoe_dude> obk, but the way i look at it, if they dont put the effort into making it work seamlessly on linux, then its crappy... some companies like that are: microsoft, cannon, sony
[05:37] <Mabus01> I don't know, webloch
[05:37] <linuxgeek2> how do I launch network admin
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> I go to apllications -> system tools -> network tools
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> is that the one
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:38] <WebLOCH> Mabus01, I have the same problem installing breezy preview
[05:38] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, yes
[05:38] <WebLOCH> Mabus01, what you trying to install
[05:38] <obk> hehe pppoe_dude
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> thanks mustard5
[05:38] <Lord> Hey...
[05:38] <Mabus01> A GeForce FX 5500
[05:38] <Lord> How can i set the root password in ubuntu 2.10
[05:38] <Lord> ???
[05:38] <RancidLM> intelikey: thanks im just gonna see if i have a fat* partition on the laptop
[05:38] <RancidLM> :D
[05:38] <YokoZar> sundae1888: what kernel panic, in particular?  Unable to mount root filesystem?
[05:39] <WebLOCH> Mabus01, its not the card thats causing the problem, hot plug refers to the usb stack as far as i know
[05:39] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Lord about RootSudo
[05:39] <pppoe_dude> obk, some actually make it puposely difficult for you to get it working... but staples and futureshop should have enough returns from me to figure that out
[05:39] <sundae1888> yokozar: <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[05:39] <Mabus01> works just fine without geforce though WebLOCH (I'm using it right now)
[05:39] <WebLOCH> Mabus01, it kept crashing on that for me when i had my bluetooth usb kit plugged in, but worked fine when i took it out
[05:39] <WebLOCH> ahhh
[05:39] <intelikey> to set a root password "sudo sh "   and then set it like any other passwd.
[05:39] <iiiears> Mabus01 - Hi. :)   - the nVidia driver on their site is speediest (5-10 percent)   but for my money the simplicity of installing nvidia-glx with one click is much better.
[05:39] <yi> does ubuntu upgrade packages only once every 6month or do upgrades happen in the current stable tree?
[05:39] <WebLOCH> Mabus01, fair play buddy, not sure then
[05:39] <yi> (besides security fixes)
[05:39] <YokoZar> sundae1888: no idea, sorry :(
[05:39] <bimberi> yi: security and bugfixes happen all the time
[05:40] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, did you try uninstalling all nvidia drivers, killing gdm and installing drivers again?
[05:40] <Mabus01> Tried both, iiiears
[05:40] <iiiears> Mabus01 - nvidia-glx is in synaptic ;)
[05:40] <coolkev> i'm trying to download the breezy cd and it's downloading at 34 KB/s froma  canadian site
[05:40] <YokoZar> yi: sometimes things enter the backports repository, but other than that packages are frozen at release
[05:40] <grodius> how do i save when editing with nano
[05:40] <coolkev> the torrent had no seeds
[05:40] <Mabus01> I will if you tell me how professor_chaos
[05:40] <mahangu> grodius, CTRL+X
[05:40] <yi> YokoZar: hurmm
[05:40] <mustard5> iiiears, he's done that too
[05:40] <coolkev> are there any faster sites i can use?
[05:40] <YokoZar> yi: the exception was warty, which added some things to universe
[05:40] <mahangu> it asks you if you wanna save
[05:40] <sundae1888> who/where should i direct my question?
[05:40] <ksmurf> sundae just ask
[05:40] <grodius> mahangu thankya
[05:40] <YokoZar> sundae1888: best bet would be the forums, since few people know how to diagnose a kernel panic like that
[05:40] <intelikey> gordius look at the bottom of the nano
[05:41] <yi> YokoZar: so if breezy shipped with software 'x' at version y.z, x won't be updated to a newer release until dapper?
[05:41] <iiiears> Mabus01 - did you say you had a Geforce 5200 pci?
[05:41] <mustard5> iiiears, correct
[05:41] <mustard5> 5500
[05:41] <mustard5> not 5200
[05:41] <Mabus01> FX 5500, in the PCI
[05:41] <iiiears> wow it works perfectly for me.
[05:42] <ksmurf> is it possible to run x through an ssh session?
[05:42] <YokoZar> yi: pretty much.  You can install third party packages and things that are backported into the backports repository, though.  The wine package here: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb that I made is an example of such a third party thing.
[05:42] <mustard5> iiiears, hehe I guess thats some reassurance for the future :)
[05:42] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, synaptic->uninstall everyting with the work nvidia in it.  Then press ctrl+alt+f1. Then type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop". Then apt-get install all of those nvidia drivers.
[05:42] <iiiears> mustard -let's get this working.
[05:42] <yi> YokoZar: hurmm
[05:42] <bimberi> yi: yes, that's the policy, although one exception for hoary was firefox upgrades
[05:43] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, or if installing the drivers from nvidia.com, make sure you uninstall all nvidia stuff first before you do the install
[05:43] <YokoZar> yi: you can also install the dapper development packages (your own hack of a backport), though that might break things
[05:43] <mustard5> iiiears, he really needs help because I have seen Mabus01 try nearly every angle
[05:43] <Modi|help> ok now will somene plz help me?
[05:43] <WebLOCH> firefox! yuck
[05:43] <iiiears> mustard - no acceleration?
[05:43] <yi> i see, thanks for the explanations.
[05:43] <bimberi> yi: actually, i guess they were security updates too
[05:43] <yi> bimberi: right
[05:43] <yi> so, openoffice2 will not see the light in breezy?
[05:44] <bimberi> !0002
[05:44] <ubotu> Not a clue, bimberi
[05:44] <bimberi> !ooo2
[05:44] <ubotu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[05:44] <mustard5> iiiears, my nvidia is working fine..its Mabus01's that is rooted :D
[05:44] <yi> that's rather cumbersome...especially sometimes for smaller packages like xqf
[05:44] <iiiears> Mabus01 - is it working with the nv driver?
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> I love u guys
[05:44] <yi> which have minimal impact on stability
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> thatnks for all the help
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> muah
[05:44] <bimberi> yi: perhaps it will :)
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> sweet kisses to u guys
[05:44] <yi> but have big feature improvements
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> I love u all
[05:44] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, so it worked?
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> thanks for all the help
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> yes mustard5
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> thatnks
[05:44] <mustard5> great :D
[05:44] <yi> bimberi: yeah, i saw that too actually, perhaps :)
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> I love u
[05:44] <mustard5> have fun linuxgeek2
[05:44] <Mabus01> mark for removal or for complete removal professor_chaos?
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> sure ubuntu rocks
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> for sure
[05:45] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, either
[05:45] <mustard5> Mabus01, complete removal takes out configuratin files so I would say yes?
[05:45] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, complete removal with remove conf files
[05:45] <Modi|help> GAHH!!
[05:46] <Mabus01> ok they're completely removed
[05:46] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, like if you want to lets say in the future, reinstall some software and keep all the preferences that you set up. Like mail preferences, etc.
[05:46] <intelikey> oh complete removal is --purge
[05:46] <iiiears> Mabus01 - double check the bus ID using     lspci   do those numbers match in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:46] <prg> Hi, can anyone answer this: If I download a .deb package, how can I install it and have it registered with synaptic for removal later if need be?
[05:47] <professor_chaos> either way the software is GONE! just whether you want configs kept for later on.
[05:47] <iiiears> Mabus01 - Are you running the nv, nvidia, or vesa driver now?
[05:47] <mustard5> prg, what .deb package and where did you get it from?
[05:47] <pppoe_dude> prg dpkg -i [package name] 
[05:47] <intelikey> prg man dpkg
[05:47] <prg> mustard5: is is the wxmaxima front end to maxima.  not on any repo I have seen...
[05:47] <linuxgeek2> Hey I just restarted my laptop and my gnone is hanging
[05:47] <linuxgeek2> it's not going in
[05:47] <linuxgeek2> any idea
[05:47] <linuxgeek2> Hey I just restarted my laptop and my gnone is hanging
[05:48] <linuxgeek2> Hey I just restarted my laptop and my gnone is hanging
[05:48] <linuxgeek2> any idea
[05:48] <linuxgeek2> it's not going in
[05:48] <pppoe_dude> linuxgeek2 dont flood
[05:48] <mustard5> no repeating linuxgeek2
[05:48] <prg> all: so dpkg will link it with apt/synaptic (whichever)?
[05:48] <linuxgeek2> sorry
[05:48] <pppoe_dude> prg yes
[05:48] <obk> pppoe_dude, any specific settings in connections, properties that i shd do
[05:48] <linuxgeek2> what should I do ?
[05:48] <grodius> Guys how do you set up a widescreen resolution
[05:48] <prg> Thanks again..
[05:48] <madsen> linuxgeek2: Mine does that too and I don't know why, but if I wait for, like, 10 minutes, then it continues the login. (?)
[05:49] <iiiears> !xorg
[05:49] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:49] <linuxgeek2> oh
[05:49] <linuxgeek2> madsen, what is the reason for that ?
[05:49] <pppoe_dude> obk, in network-admin?
[05:49] <linuxgeek2> 10 Minutes is too long
[05:49] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, it is a long time :)
[05:49] <intelikey> [ctrl]  [alt]  [backspace]  resets X
[05:49] <Mabus01> iiears; I'm running he default driver
[05:49] <obk> ya in network settings
[05:49] <pppoe_dude> linuxgeek2 prolly a network related thing
[05:49] <linuxgeek2> okie
[05:49] <linuxgeek2> any fix for this guys
[05:49] <pppoe_dude> obk, obviusly the connection is enabled right?
[05:49] <Mabus01> I reverted to this backup when I made it so X wouldnt even load
[05:50] <linuxgeek2> yes
[05:50] <obk> yes
[05:50] <madsen> linuxgeek2: as I said, I don't know why...
[05:50] <obk> i can see the box checked
[05:50] <obk> and it say wlan0 is active
[05:50] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, when does it hang??
[05:50] <RancidLM> intelikey: hey .. i got a question... can i just extract the cd info to my /home/ dir and add  a grub option to run it?
[05:50] <pppoe_dude> obk, iwlist should show you any cells that the card can access, even if it was deactivated
[05:50] <obk> oh ok
[05:50] <Mabus01> iiiears: what did you mean about xserver-xorg
[05:50] <pppoe_dude> obk, do you see any thing under the dropdown box ESSID?
[05:51] <linuxgeek2> professor_chaos, after I enter my username and password the gui with the mouse pointer comes up and after that it seems like it hnagsd
[05:51] <CarlFK_> can I use growisofs on CDRs?
[05:51] <grodius> IM trying to find the 855resolution pack (as seen in the resolution walkthrough) and it cant be found
[05:51] <ksmurf> is there a way to run multipul x servers?
[05:51] <Mabus01> Reconfigure it so it matches the data for nVidia in the lspci?
[05:51] <intelikey> yeah that is possable RancidLM
[05:51] <sirmixalot> ubuntu 5.10 iso wont install
[05:51] <obk> pppoe_dude, nothing just blank
[05:51] <sirmixalot> i burned it with nero
[05:51] <mustard5> sirmixalot, can you elaborate?
[05:51] <ksmurf> sirmixalot..... did u md5 the burn?
[05:51] <RancidLM> intelikey: any idea on where to start? :S
[05:51] <linuxgeek2> professor_chaos, u there ?
[05:51] <pppoe_dude> obk, this is where your accesspoint would be if this was working :p
[05:52] <linuxgeek2> professor_chaos, do u have a fix for this ?
[05:52] <pppoe_dude> obk, 1 sec ill look someting up
[05:52] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, patience :)
[05:52] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, yes, but I dont know the answer
[05:52] <obk> k
[05:52] <prg> Another question for anyone:  I just found the pakage i want to get on 'packages.debian.org'.  How can I point apt towards this so that it will correctly fill all the dependencices?
[05:52] <thesilentkiller> how do i install subversion?
[05:52] <madsen> linuxgeek2: Try waiting for it to start... It works for me - however, it sucks to wait 10 minutes for login. :(
[05:52] <iiiears> Mabus - use lspci to see the bus ID of your card add those numbers to the dpkg-reconfigure command  write down the vga card manufacture name EXACTLY and add it manually.
[05:52] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, can you try stopping gdm and then starting gdm from the command line and see what happens.
[05:52] <prg> what is the line I enter to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:52] <madsen> thesilentkiller: sudo apt-get install subversion
[05:53] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, or try startx to start another xserver
[05:53] <intelikey> set it up like you were booting a different kernel ......... mmmmm no wait. the root will be wrong.   you would have to have your home on a seperate partition, if so then set it up like you do any other kernel kickstart.  with the root set to that partition
[05:53] <linuxgeek2> professor_chaos, GDM comes up
[05:53] <thesilentkiller> madsen: thanks
[05:53] <linuxgeek2> ok fine
[05:53] <madsen> thesilentkiller: np :)
[05:53] <Mabus01> iiiears: epme
[05:53] <Mabus01> er
[05:53] <Mabus01> iiiears: #helpme
[05:53] <sirmixalot> when installing the base system it hangs
[05:53] <sirmixalot> at 6%
[05:53] <sirmixalot> i dont understand what could be wrong with the cd if i got it off their very site
[05:53] <sirmixalot> md5?
[05:53] <sirmixalot> i used nero
[05:53] <iiiears> Mabus01 - okay
[05:53] <linuxgeek2> Fatal server erro server is alraeady active
[05:54] <cafuego> ksmurf: Yeah, you vna simply add server definitions in the gdm.conf file.
[05:54] <mustard5> sirmixalot, what speed did you burn at?
[05:54] <sirmixalot> 24
[05:54] <linuxgeek2> madsen, it's sucks man
[05:54] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, but does it hang? Any messages on term1
[05:54] <sirmixalot> but nero always burns perfect
[05:54] <cafuego> sirmixalot: The internet is not a 100% reliable medium. neither are CDs.
[05:54] <mustard5> sirmixalot, burn at lowest speed MAY fix, no guarantees
[05:54] <linuxgeek2> professor_chaos, how do I check that ?
[05:54] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: it's not?
[05:54] <intelikey> RancidLM you might be able to start the installer from a running system.   that would make things a lot simpler for you.
[05:54] <linuxgeek2> messages onm term1
[05:54] <mustard5> sirmixalot, first check it is not corrupt ISO though
[05:54] <madsen> linuxgeek2: Yeah, it sucks and if I ever find out what's causing it you can bet I'll post it in the wiki.
[05:54] <HrdwrBoB> brb, talking to share traders
[05:54] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, how are you starting gdm from the commandline?
[05:55] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: OMG! I'll have them re-send the memo to you ;-)
[05:55] <sirmixalot> it was a torrent but still
[05:55] <ksmurf> cafuego K I'll try that.....
[05:55] <linuxgeek2> nope professor_chaos it automatcially comes up
[05:55] <Modi|help> ok i have a grub prompt in terminal
[05:55] <Modi|help> how do i disable it
[05:55] <cafuego> ksmurf: You can do that easily via the 'Login Manager Setup' thingie in your admin menu.
[05:55] <pppoe_dude> obk, when u did the dmesg, did you see a reference for "aetheros"?
[05:55] <sirmixalot> how can i see weither its a bad iso just burn it again?
[05:55] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, so if you bootup, it hangs after typing your login? right?
[05:55] <sirmixalot> and what is md5?
[05:55] <cafuego> sirmixalot: via md5sum
[05:55] <linuxgeek2> yes
[05:55] <madsen> professor_chaos: I have the same problem, but can't seem to fix it - it's been bugging me for 4 days. The login just hangs for 10 minutes... No useful error messages anywhere. (A bit in .xsession-errors, but I can't seem to locate the problem from it.)
[05:55] <linuxgeek2> ye professor_chaos
[05:56] <sirmixalot> does it come in a windows version?
[05:56] <cafuego> sirmixalot: Maybe, I wouldn't know :-)
[05:56] <intelikey> RancidLM but if you copy the kernel and the initrd to a boatable dos/windows drive and then use "loadlin.exe kernel initrd=initrd.name root=dev/ram "   it should work.
[05:56] <mustard5> madsen and linuxgeek2, did you both have a the hostname resolve problem with sudo earlier?  Just curious.
[05:57] <linuxgeek2> Ah finally loaded
[05:57] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, try "ctrl+alt+f1" then... "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" ... then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[05:57] <madsen> mustard5: Yup!
[05:57] <linuxgeek2> yes mustard5
[05:57] <linuxgeek2> I had to fix that
[05:57] <codept> why i can't login to Y!mail using lynx?
[05:57] <madsen> mustard5: However, that does not occur in my .xsession-errors any more. Why?
[05:57] <cafuego> mustard5: a sudo hostname issue happens when your localhost entry is /etc/hosts is broken.
[05:57] <r0d> how can i search synaptic for specific header files i need to compile?
[05:57] <intelikey> professor_chaos restart  ?
[05:57] <madsen> codept: No javascript perhaps?
[05:57] <intelikey> one command. does both
[05:57] <mustard5> cafuego, I was curious whether it was related to the login to gnome hanging...
[05:58] <madsen> r0d: What do you mean? For what?
[05:58] <RancidLM> intelikey: would this work in winxp?
[05:58] <linuxgeek2> madsen, coz of the hostname is it causing problem
[05:58] <cafuego> mustard5: It's possible i guess
[05:58] <mustard5> cafuego, both had a busted sudo with it not being able to resolve
[05:58] <shadymike> Network Question: With the system monitor I constantly get Recieved network traffic of about 6-7 kb.  However I cannot see any open connections when I run netstat.  Where is this traffic comming from?
[05:58] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, if no hanging there, then its not gdm
[05:58] <codept> i cannot login to any any authenticated site using lynx
[05:58] <linuxgeek2> ok
[05:58] <mustard5> cafuego, both have fixed it and now both have gnome hang
[05:58] <prg> Apparently I don't understand what I am talking about... are sites like 'packages.debian.org' not repositories as well?
[05:58] <cafuego> mustard5: <heh>
[05:58] <linuxgeek2> madsen, mustard5 it takes 10 minutes
[05:59] <HrdwrBoB> prg: they are, but they contain packages built for debian
[05:59] <HrdwrBoB> not ubuntu
[05:59] <r0d> madsen,  i missing header files for  a certain program to compile. so im trying to find out what dev package i need or if i can download specic header files
[05:59] <linuxgeek2> probably it's the hostname in /etc/hosts which I specified
[05:59] <intelikey> RancidLM mmmmm yeah there is a loadlin that is supposed to run from windows.  the origenal only ran from dos.    aka command prompt only   mode.
[05:59] <HrdwrBoB> r0d: 'packagename-dev
[05:59] <cafuego> linuxgeek2: You need to have '127.0.0.1    localhost' in there.
[05:59] <madsen> r0d: Is the source by any chance a deb-src?
[05:59] <linuxgeek2> yes cafuego
[06:00] <ce_zomblo> hai
[06:00] <prg> HrdwrBoB: okay, so then if I can't find a package on the ubuntu server I am out of luck then unless I compile it?
[06:00] <madsen> linuxgeek2: You got in after 10 minutes?
[06:00] <r0d> HrdwrBoB, no. its not a program im downloading is just alittle snippet of code
[06:00] <linuxgeek2> well my /etc/hosts looks like this 127.0.0.1 localhost ash
[06:00] <mustard5> linuxgeek2 and madsen, can you both join #flood channel and paste your /etc/hosts contents in that channel?
[06:00] <linuxgeek2> yes madsen , :( after 10 minutes
[06:00] <madsen> mustard5: Better, I'll rafb.net/paste it.
[06:01] <mustard5> k
[06:01] <r0d> madsen,  nope. im looking for 'windows.h'
[06:01] <cafuego> codept: installed lynx-ssl yet?
[06:01] <madsen> mustard5: http://rafb.net/paste/results/65glUI57.html
[06:01] <professor_chaos> later
[06:01] <codept> lynx-ssl???
[06:01] <intelikey> yeah
[06:01] <[Spooky] > whats the name of the html editing program ? scream or sceam ?
[06:02] <pppoe_dude> obk, i'm sure you need the madwifi (aetheros) chipset driver... try and see what a search in name/description gives you for "madwifi" in synaptic
[06:02] <madsen> r0d: Hmm, try 'packages.ubuntu.com', you can search for package content there (a little down the page)... I think you're looking for wine-dev, but I'm not sure.
[06:02] <madsen> [Spooky] : screem I think :)
[06:02] <[Spooky] > madsen: ah thanks ;)
[06:02] <madsen> [Spooky] : np :)
[06:03] <codept> cafuego: the basic lynx doesnt come with lynx-ssl?
[06:03] <intelikey> [Spooky]  vi    ?
[06:03] <linuxgeek2> WHich line do I enable in sources.list for the latest repository
[06:03] <madsen> intelikey: lol
[06:03] <linuxgeek2> in Ubuntu
[06:03] <intelikey> :)
[06:03] <madsen> !tell linuxgeek2 about repos
[06:04] <sirmixalot> what is md5sum supposed to return?
[06:04] <[Spooky] > intelikey:  no, but thanks anyway :)
[06:04] <madsen> sirmixalot: an md5 sum.
[06:04] <mustard5> madsen, your's looks ok too...I'm stumped
[06:04] <madsen> mustard5: I know... I am too...
[06:04] <sirmixalot> i think it returned a memory allocation
[06:04] <sirmixalot> or something
[06:04] <intelikey> can write html via "echo "   :)
[06:04] <sirmixalot> it returned a long line of numbers good or bad?
[06:05] <madsen> mustard5: However, it seems that esd is hanging - but I can't really verify it. I sometimes get something like 'couldn't start esd' in .xsession-errors.
[06:05] <madsen> sirmixalot: like, numbers and letters from a-f and 0-9?
[06:05] <bimberi> sirmixalot: there should be an md5sum file on the website where you downloaded the iso from.  compare the line of numbers to that
[06:05] <sirmixalot> mmhmm
[06:05] <Mabus01> mustard5: seems normally it appears like this
[06:05] <yasser> i get plugins error in opera.....anyway to fix it??
[06:05] <Mabus01> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500]  (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[06:06] <Mabus01> 0000:01:09.9 VGA compatible controller; nVidiia Corporation: unknown device 0326 (rev a1)
[06:06] <madsen> Sean89: I can't dcc - what do you want?
[06:06] <Mabus01> that's what it says for me
[06:06] <yasser> i get plugins error in opera.....anyway to fix it??
[06:06] <Mabus01> errr
[06:06] <Mabus01> 0000:01:09.9 VGA compatible controller: nVididia Corporation: unknown device 0326 (rev a1)
[06:06] <mustard5> Mabus01, try not to paste too much in main, ops get trigger happy ;)
[06:07] <yasser>  i installed amarok-xine...still cant play mp3s!!
[06:07] <ubuntu> hello
[06:07] <ubuntu> damn it
[06:07] <madsen> !tell yasser about restricted formats
[06:07] <Modi|help> i need some help plz
[06:07] <mustard5> Mabus01, its all gobbly gook to me unfortunately
[06:07] <cronik> hi everyone
[06:08] <intelikey> modi no
[06:08] <Sean89> Just needed some help.... So I use Places > Connect to Server... and get connect correctly. The mount now appears on the desktop. How can I get this mount to "/mnt/tiger"?
[06:08] <madsen> Mabus01: What's the problem?
[06:08] <Modi|help> damn
[06:08] <cronik> is there anyone that could help me with a wireless pro that i have?
[06:08] <Lord> Where i can find some documents to help me "comp the kernel"?
[06:08] <mustard5> madsen, he has an uncooperative nvidia pci card
[06:08] <madsen> Sean89: Why is that so important?
[06:08] <Mabus01> madsen: can't get computer to boot using geforce
[06:08] <Modi|help> why not?
[06:08] <madsen> Mabus01: Ugh, sorry, can't help you there. ATI Radeon here - and I know nothing about it. :(
[06:09] <cronik> can any one help
[06:09] <Sean89> So that I can run a .img that is in a folder on my WinXP machine
[06:09] <intelikey> Modi|help just ask your questions    don't ask to ask, and don't just say "help"   :)
[06:09] <mustard5> cronik, possibly
[06:09] <cronik> lol
[06:09] <mustard5> cronik, you read the wiki guides yet?
[06:09] <madsen> Sean89: And why can't you run that from where nautilus mounts it?
[06:09] <Modi|help> har har ok i need to remove grub from my boot path
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> obk u there?
[06:09] <sirmixalot> the md5sum returned good iso!!
[06:09] <sirmixalot> woohoo
[06:09] <madsen> sirmixalot: :)
[06:09] <sirmixalot> i dont feel like dling again
[06:09] <Mabus01> mustard5:  link me to the howto guides page please
[06:09] !lilo:*! Btw, http://freenode.net/ is back up, though it may be up and down while I scratch my head and figure out the new config file layouts 8)
[06:10] <intelikey> Modi|help and use what ?
[06:10] <sirmixalot> now just burn real slow?
[06:10] <mustard5> ubotu: tell cronik about wireless
[06:10] <Mabus01> so I can try a few things there again, make sure I am doing them righit
[06:10] <cronik> well i jus finish installing ubuntu and i don"t know how to put my wireless connetion to work,i have a hp dv 1000
[06:10] <mustard5> ubotu: tell cronik about wifi
[06:10] <odie5533> How do I repair the grub menu?
[06:10] <madsen> !tell Mabus01 about nvidia
[06:10] <mustard5> thanks madsen :)
[06:10] <madsen> :)
[06:10] <sirmixalot> any features amoung nero i need to enable
[06:10] <madsen> sirmixalot: Make sure you make the cd bootable. (Don't know Nero though.)
[06:11] <Modi|help> i needed to formatt my hdd with ubuntu and grub is keeping me out of my boot.ini
[06:11] <sirmixalot> i made one a2 hours ago and it booted
[06:11] <cronik> anyone knows how to fix that pro
[06:11] <Sean89> Madsen: Well I want it in /mnt/ so that I can run my commands to use the .img.... Is there a better way?
[06:11] <intelikey> Modi|help you can't just remove grub.  you can replace it with ....    but if you just simply removed it the system would not boot at all from the hd.
[06:11] <sirmixalot> so i think its default
[06:11] <Bharath> pppoe_dude, u there
[06:12] <cronik> i read everuthing
[06:12] <madsen> Sean89: Well, nautilus mounts it somewhere, so try "df -h" and see if that reveals anything to you. :)
[06:12] <Modi|help> i had it on a diff hdd and how can i replace it?
[06:12] <odie5533> How do I repair the grub menu when windows takes it over?
[06:12] <cronik> and i try everthing 2
[06:12] <mustard5> cronik, you have read the guides?
[06:12] <cronik> yup
[06:12] <bob2> odie5533: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:12] <cronik> i can even give u the link
[06:12] <mustard5> ah k...well you need to be more specific with your problem
[06:12] <pppoe_dude> Bharath yes
[06:12] <sirmixalot> my writer will only write at 24x :(
[06:12] <morphix> can someone help with getting Apache & Perl working? i have perl installed.. and of course apache.. but its not working.. cgi scripts just come up as text :(
[06:12] <cronik> u talking 2 me?
[06:12] <Sean89> Madsen: it says "/dev/hda5       13G  6.9G  5.4G  57% /"
[06:12] <madsen> Sean89: I think, that if you want to decide WHERE the smb share is mounted, then you need 'smbmount', but you're on a livecd, right?
[06:13] <mustard5> cronik, ah k...well you need to be more specific with your problem
[06:13] <mustard5> :)
[06:13] <madsen> Sean89: Nothing else?
[06:13] <cronik> ok
[06:13] <x86i> Is there any place that has a good and detailed explanation has to how the init levels work in Ubuntu?
[06:13] <pppoe_dude> Bharath?
[06:13] <Sean89> Madsen: Correct, that is why I am having the problems. No nothing else.
[06:13] <mustard5> cronik, you used pastebin before?
[06:13] <sirmixalot> should i rewrite the cd at 24x?
[06:13] <sirmixalot> same speed
[06:13] <Bharath> i was just asking did u find anyother way
[06:13] <rain`> x86i, i just found that recenetly, i try to find it again
[06:14] <intelikey> Modi|help with lilo or a dos mbr or any other bootloader.    to format a partition  from linux use "sudo mkfs.<type> /dev/hd?# " where ? is a letter and # is a number of the partiton modi|help
[06:14] <cronik> well,i just finish installin ubuntu linux today,i have a build in wirelesscard in my lap top hp dv 1000,and my comp dose not read it
[06:14] <cronik> wat can i do
[06:14] <bob2> x86i: uh, same as on every other modern unix
[06:14] <bob2> x86i: /usr/share/doc/sysvrc/
[06:14] <mustard5> ubotu: tell cronik about pastebin
[06:14] <pppoe_dude> Bharath another for obk?
[06:14] <Modi|help> ok im using the live cd atm
[06:14] <mustard5> read that link from ubotu plz cronik
[06:14] <intelikey> Modi|help you can use fdisk -l /dev/hd?  to list the partitions on a given disk.
[06:15] <bob2> x86i: especially /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.runlevels.gz
[06:15] <madsen> Sean89: Hmm, weird... I'm not sure what you're trying to do - but couldn't you just transfer the .img to your Ubuntu?
[06:15] <x86i> bob2: lol we have got to stop meeting like this :P
[06:15] <bob2> Modi|help: what are you trying to do?
[06:15] <Modi|help> ok let's try this im a linux noob
[06:15] <Bharath> pppoe_dude, oh ya sorry disconnected so came with another name
[06:15] <mustard5> cronik, you will probably need to know how to use the pastebin to solve this issue
[06:15] <Modi|help> im trying to get to my boot.ini past grub
[06:15] <pppoe_dude> Bharath oh... so ur obk?
[06:15] <Bharath> yes
[06:15] <pppoe_dude> co
[06:15] <Sean89> Madsen: No because it is the live cd and therefore there is no HDD. Thanks for your help anyway. I will try tommorow.
[06:15] <Modi|help> intel how do i do that fdisk
[06:16] <madsen> Sean89: Wait, you might be able to do: mount -t smbfs //server/share /mnt/<share> (once you've created the dir /mnt/<share>).
[06:16] <Modi|help> or can i do it from the live cd?
[06:16] <pppoe_dude> Bharath,  k... um, try lspci
[06:16] <intelikey> Modi|help you can use "fdisk -l /dev/hd? " to list the partitions on a given disk.
[06:16] <bob2> Modi|help: no, that makes no sense.
[06:16] <madsen> Sean89: Well, df -h said you had hda5 mounted... (?)
[06:16] <Modi|help> HOW
[06:16] <pppoe_dude> Bharath,  see if it gives you any reference to aetheros or madwifi
[06:16] <bob2> Modi|help: what is your goal? what is happening that you don't want to have happen?
[06:16] <Modi|help> ok i had to formatt my hdd with ubuntu installed
[06:17] <madsen> Sean89: You might have to stick 'sudo' in front of the mount command.
[06:17] <sirmixalot> could it be that the first cd a brand new DELL laptop wrote was corrupt?
[06:17] <Modi|help> grub is keepig me from booting to windows
[06:17] <madsen> sirmixalot: Well, it _is_ a Dell. :-p
[06:17] <Bharath> pppoe_dude, nothing like that
[06:17] <Modi|help> it says error 17 or something
[06:17] <bob2> Modi|help: so, #windows, and ask them how to reinstall the windows bootloader into the MBR
[06:17] <madsen> !tell Modi|help about dual boot
[06:17] <bob2> Modi|help: if you have an old windows cd, you can use "fdisk /mbr"
[06:17] <sirmixalot> it only allows me the option of 24x
[06:17] <Bharath> i can see  Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Inter face
[06:17] <realshotgun> i like this so far, but man such a change
[06:17] <sirmixalot> isnt that odd?
[06:18] <Modi|help> prob is i have 32 bit xp aand 64 bit xp
[06:18] <realshotgun> im so confused
[06:18] <bob2> sirmixalot: this is not a nero support channel...
[06:18] <x86i> bob2: I guess my question is, before when I asked for assistance, you told me that Ubuntu never reaches init level 3, I guess I was wondering why? Does it only use 0-2?
[06:18] <mustard5> sirmixalot, very odd
[06:18] <pppoe_dude> Bharath, any reference to the network card?
[06:18] <bob2> Modi|help: #windows, this is not an ubuntu issue
[06:18] <cafuego> Bharath: You are in for a world of pain.
[06:18] <Xenguy> madsen: sudo if you want to be root in Ubu
[06:18] <Bharath> pppoe_dude,  Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Inter face
[06:18] <madsen> Xenguy: huh?
[06:18] <bob2> x86i: "reaches"?
[06:18] <cafuego> Bharath: The latest acx100 driver (not the one in Ubuntu, but a CVS version) mostly works. Your best bet is 'ndiswrapper'.
[06:18] <Modi|help> ok we will see
[06:18] <Sean89> Madsen: Thanks alot for your help. I am getting on the right track, but I have to give up for tongiht. Thanks alot though, you were a bit help!
[06:18] <bob2> x86i: they are not numbered in any particular order
[06:19] <pppoe_dude> Bharath: argh,,, TI
[06:19] <bob2> x86i: you can call them foo, bar, baz, bong, bill, blow and charlie instead of 0-6
[06:19] <madsen> Sean89: No problem! Come back if you encounter more problems. :)
[06:19] <rain`> x86i: do "gedit /etc/inittab" <-- read the comments in there for more info
[06:19] <Bharath> ndiswrapper! wat is that
[06:19] <Xenguy> madsen: grunt
[06:19] <pppoe_dude> Bharath: ndiswraapper lets you use windows drivers
[06:19] <madsen> Xenguy: grunt? What? (You got me totally confused now...)
[06:19] <Xenguy> wtf
[06:19] <Bharath> oh ok how to get it
[06:20] <sirmixalot> ubuntu setup is driving me to drink
[06:20] <intelikey> grub will boot your winxp if you set it up right Modi|help
[06:20] <x86i> Well, I know its not in order, but the main system just runs everything it needs at level 2, most programs use others, just wondering why they decided on the change.
[06:20] <rain`> x86i: its all one runlevel...
[06:20] <Xenguy> madsen: I don't know what you're on about now
[06:20] <mustard5> Xenguy, you sent madsen a message earlier about root and sudo...he is wondering what you mean
[06:20] <madsen> Xenguy: Yup! :)
[06:20] <bob2> x86i: that made no sense
[06:20] <Xenguy> mustard5: oh
[06:20] <madsen> mustard5: thanks :)
[06:20] <pppoe_dude> Bharath, try with synaptic
[06:20] <bob2> x86i: things that should run on a normal system run in runlevels 2-5.
[06:21] <bob2> x86i: "most programs use others"?
[06:21] <nagual> Can someone take a look at my smb.conf file and tell me why it isn't showing up in my view workgroup computers in win xp?
[06:21] <cronik> hey man
[06:21] <Xenguy> madsen: sorry, I can't find it on my buffer anymore
[06:21] <x86i> Like take for example, webmin. Webmin normally installs its service for init 3
[06:21] <cronik> i already done all of that
[06:21] <pppoe_dude> Bharath, theres some utility software there too... but i personally recommend u try a different card, i had bad luck with texas instruments... so many wasted hours
[06:21] <bob2> x86i: no, it doesn't
[06:21] <cronik> im telling u,this thing is killing me
[06:21] <madsen> Xenguy: It's alright, you just said "sudo if you want to be root". :)
[06:21] <bob2> x86i: the webmin package runs in 2-5
[06:21] <ModiFiyd> well it was right right but i removed the
[06:21] <cronik> i don"t wanna go back to xp
[06:21] <cronik> lol
[06:21] <Xenguy> madsen: /msg ubotu root
[06:22] <pppoe_dude> Bharath, might wanna try apt-get install ndisgtk
[06:22] <madsen> Xenguy: there you go again. ;)
[06:22] <coolkev> what up ubuntu
[06:22] <intelikey> who did this to the bot ??? [ubotu(n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au)]  Please use private messages, like '/msg ubotu grub', rather than posting into the channel needlessly.   <--- in prv mgs    ;/
[06:22] <coolkev> hows every body tonight
[06:22] <Xenguy> madsen: wow, just type it dude
[06:22] <coolkev> dude
[06:22] <coolkev> where's my car
[06:22] <sirmixalot> i think the ubuntu cd may have been scratched i remember my puppy eating some cdr's lol
[06:22] <coolkev> yes maybe
[06:22] <sector10> ubuntu iooking real good if you double the panel size, then add things
[06:22] <Xenguy> coolkev: where's my country?
[06:22] <cronik> lol
[06:23] <coolkev> em USA
[06:23] <sirmixalot> pack of 100 too
[06:23] <cronik> hey guys,a lil help here
[06:23] <Xenguy> coolkev: Amerika
[06:23] <nagual> Can someone take a look at my smb.conf file and tell me why my ubuntu box  isn't showing up in my view workgroup computers in win xp?
[06:23] <madsen> Xenguy: lol, did you smoke crack or something? I never asked for any help of any kind about 'root'! :)
[06:23] <cronik> i  don"t wanna go back to xp
[06:23] <rain`> intelikey: just say "root" to it
[06:23] <sector10> -8c it says here
[06:23] <coolkev> ohh are you one of Amerikaz most wanted gangsters
[06:23] <Xenguy> madsen: go away, I have no idea why you are stalking me ferchrisakes
[06:23] <sector10> at the top, but it cant be that cold.
[06:24] <intelikey> rain`  yeah.   funny stuff there..... :)
[06:24] <madsen> Xenguy: "06:22 < Xenguy> madsen: /msg ubotu root"
[06:24] <sector10> ice runway
[06:24] <cronik> how can i set my laptop(hp dv 1000)to work wirless
[06:24] <bob2> nagual: questions like that need to be accompanied by urls to your file
[06:24] <rain`> intelikey: well the point was that it works :P
[06:24] <mustard5> madsen, it all a miscommunication...let it die ;)
[06:24] <nagual> ok.  hold on
[06:24] <cronik> how can i set my laptop(hp dv 1000)to work wirless
[06:24] <[Spooky] > is it possible to set the nic to not response to ping ?
[06:24] <intelikey> rain`  but try telling it to tell you something
[06:24] <mustard5> madsen your both driving me nuts missing the point :D
[06:24] <moo> any idea why breezy badger stalls on the initial install? after detecting the cdrom, it just drops to the blue screen and does nothing. it's not froze and i can tab to other VC's but it never continues the install
[06:25] <lameduck> Hello everyone!
[06:25] <Xenguy> madsen: if it is a case of mistaken identity, then fuck off and let it go
[06:25] <bob2> [Spooky] : why would you want to do that?
[06:25] <coolkev> breezy badger
[06:25] <bob2> moo: verify the CD
[06:25] <sector10> what are the programs when i right click on top panel?
[06:25] <bob2> cronik: be less vague
[06:25] <coolkev> i once milked a badger
[06:25] <intelikey> rain like i just did.
[06:25] <lameduck> Quit for lunch
[06:25] <sector10> are they java?
[06:25] <moo> what's the easiest way to do that bob2
[06:25] <kevogod> Xenguy, Language please.
[06:25] <coolkev> didn't go very well
[06:25] <[Spooky] > bob2: ping flooders ?
[06:25] <rain`> itelikey: oh I see, you do "tell me about root" and then it adds that unessesary line after...
[06:25] <nagual> ok bob2:  it is here http://nagual.homelinux.net/smb.conf
[06:25] <bob2> [Spooky] : no, that's dumb
[06:26] <intelikey> yep
[06:26] <Xenguy> kevogod: scuse me I'll just bite my fsckin tongue off
[06:26] <bob2> [Spooky] : if peopel ping flood you, they've already used up your bandwidth by the time you drop the packet
[06:26] <madsen> Xenguy: It's kinda hard to when my nick is constantly highlighted... Relax - and try being a little more careful with the tab-completion, ok? It's all I ask... It's just a bit distracting and confusing.
[06:26] <sector10> looks like plesk lol
[06:26] <yasser> anyway to fix opera motif error?
[06:26] <[Spooky] > bob2: ok so what should i do ?
[06:26] <sector10> oh im on beach theme its nice
[06:26] <Xenguy> madsen: relax is the operative word - I'll see what I can do :P
[06:26] <cronik> come on guys,im tring to get rid of windows,i really need to put thing to work
[06:26] <bob2> nagual: also, you need to tell us what your windows workgroup name is, and whether the network works fine otherwise
[06:26] <bob2> cronik: begging is of no use, no one cares if you use windows or not
[06:27] <bob2> cronik: you need to find out what sort of wireless NI you have
[06:27] <cronik> how can i do that?
[06:27] <nagual> bob2: right now, neither xp computer can see the other or the ubuntu box.  workgroup name is MADELS
[06:27] <madsen> Xenguy: Hehe, thanks. :)
[06:27] <bob2> nagual: so it's a network problem then
[06:27] <Xenguy> madsen: no worries
[06:27] <nagual> bob2:  what could be causing it?  I have the windows user names on both xp pro boxes.
[06:27] <bob2> cronik: by reading your manual or box or the output of "lspci".
[06:27] <x86i> nagual: can you ping either of the box's?
[06:27] <intelikey> pciutils   lspci
[06:28] <bob2> nagual: ignore xmb entirely until you fix your network to work at all
[06:28] <cronik> ok
[06:28] <cronik> imma check it right now
[06:28] <cronik> brb
[06:28] <madsen> Well then, who knows how I can teach my bealge to fetch pdfs?
[06:28] <pppoe_dude> lol
[06:28] <sector10> he he
[06:28] <bob2> so
[06:28] <x86i> bob2: My apologies, it turns out webmin has known issues with Ubuntu unless you use the apt-get version.
[06:28] <madsen> s/bealge/beagle/
[06:29] <moo> bob2: can you tell me a way to verify the cd?
[06:29] <bob2> presumably you mean "Does anyone know how to configure Beagle to index .pdf files?"
[06:29] <madsen> bob2: Exactly, I just got tired of saying that. :)
[06:29] <bob2> moo: boot into expert mode, select "verify cd"
[06:29] <mahangu> i installed flash via apt-get
[06:29] <mahangu> but pages wont load :o
[06:29] <Xenguy> x86i: I think webmin is mostly a bad idea (but that is just heresay mostly)
[06:29] <moo> ok
[06:29] <moo> thanks
[06:29] <bob2> x86i: right, hence why packaging software involves more than checkinstall ;)
[06:29] <nagual> bob2: yes.  all boxes can ping eachother.  When i try and view workgroup computers i get "Network name cannot be found
[06:29] <bob2> nagual: eh?
[06:29] <bob2> 14:27:15         nagual |  bob2: right now, neither xp computer can see the other or the ubuntu box
[06:30] <mshade> anyone here good with touchpad issues?
[06:30] <brandon_> Can i ask a stupid question
[06:30] <nagual> bob2:  correct
[06:30] <sector10> mshade: me too
[06:30] <mustard5> brandon_, sure
[06:30] <shadymike> What is the gnome-pty-helper process?  And why do I always have a bunch of them sleeping after I log out?
[06:30] <bob2> nagual: those statements seem contradictory
[06:30] <sirmixalot> ha it was a scratch on the cd made by my hungry puppy haha
[06:30] <brandon_> Im new tolinuz and i was wondering how i run windows programs with linux
[06:30] <sirmixalot> install works now!
[06:30] <bob2> also, adios.
[06:30] <grodius> How do I configure the terminal for a proxy?
[06:30] <nagual> bob2:  what do you mean?
[06:30] <madsen> sirmixalot: Great! :)
[06:30] <bob2> brandon_: you don't, generally
[06:30] <brandon_> I have wine
[06:31] <bob2> grodius: that makes no sense
[06:31] <sector10> mshade: I think I fixed mine by taking out glx from xorg.conf
[06:31] <mustard5> brandon_, best to find an alternative that runs in linux
[06:31] <bob2> grodius: do you mean "How do I tell applications to use a HTTP proxy?"
[06:31] <mshade> sector10, hmm.. i'll give that a shot, seems unrelated though.
[06:31] <madsen> bob2: Do you know how to make it (beagle) index pdfs?
[06:31] <sector10> mshade: what you got?
[06:31] <bob2> grodius: export HTTP_PROXY=http://whateva/
[06:31] <mustard5> brandon_, what do you want to do?
[06:31] <sirmixalot> on the next cd there was a dog hair underneath it she left the scene with red paint
[06:31] <mshade> sector10, it's a sony vaio with an ALPS glidepoint
[06:31] <intelikey> hmmmm dosemu not a ub package ?
[06:31] <bob2> !+info dosemu
[06:31] <ubotu> dosemu: (The Linux DOS Emulator), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 904 kB, Installed size: 2128 kB
[06:31] <sector10> mshade: i got a vaio
[06:32] <mshade> sector10, what model?
[06:32] <sector10> mshade: using it right now, its vgn-fs660
[06:32] <lsald> intelikey, check your sources.list
[06:32] <brandon_> No, Ive heard i could use wine, so that i could run windows based programs on my linux system
[06:32] <mshade> sector10, similar to mine. i've got a vgn-s260
[06:32] <intelikey> multiverse eeek    i don't have multi..
[06:32] <sector10> mshade: its working real good
[06:32] <mshade> sector10, yeah, i like mine a lot too. SuSE did the touchpad right.. I'm just trying to get it right under ubuntu now
[06:32] <Xenguy> intelikey: you need multiverse :-)
[06:32] <mustard5> brandon_, personally I find wine a pain the behind
[06:32] <nagual> bob2:  what do you mean?
[06:33] <sector10> mshade: i had lots of things wrong
[06:33] <mustard5> brandon_, its a dog to use
[06:33] <[koji] > anyone here knows how to disable graphical startup?
[06:33] <mshade> sector10, no dice on taking glx out
[06:33] <mshade> sector10, didn't seem to help.
[06:33] <lsald> [koji] , change the default runlevel
[06:33] <mshade> sector10, mind sending me your xorg.conf?
[06:33] <brandon_> Can anyone help me or private message me with help
[06:33] <sector10> mshade: how is your touchpad?
[06:33] <mshade> sector10, what do you mean
[06:33] <mustard5> brandon_, you visited the ubuntuforums?
[06:33] <sector10> mshade: too sensative?
[06:33] <[koji] > lsald, a little guidance?
[06:34] <sector10> mshade: opening windows?
[06:34] <mshade> sector10: trying to enable scrolling etc
[06:34] <mustard5> brandon_, there are a number of threads in the forum which will give you a good idea about what you are up against
[06:34] <intelikey> would someone be so kind as to post the multiverse url for 5.04 ?
[06:34] <Xenguy> [koji] : cd /etc/init.d ; update-rd.d -f program
[06:34] <mshade> sector10: and double tap--hold to drag
[06:34] <Xenguy> er
[06:34] <mustard5> brandon_, it would be a good start to finding out whether you are heading down the right path
[06:34] <intelikey> i'll add it right quickly.
[06:34] <x86i> nagual: Have you restarted samba since you edited your config?
[06:34] <mshade> sector10: synclient -h reports 'No touchpad found'
[06:35] <nagual> yes.
[06:35] <nagual> I will try again.
[06:35] <Xenguy> [koji] : update-rc.d
[06:35] <sector10> mshade: my driver is synaptics
[06:35] <mshade> sector10: mine too
[06:35] <x86i> nagual: also make sure you dont have any firewall software running on either machine
[06:36] <realshotgun> how do I uninstall wine?
[06:36] <lsald> [koji] , inittab
[06:36] <nemik> i'm running a base install. once i do 'crontab foo.cron' will it always stay there or do i have to do it each time i restart?
[06:36] <sector10> mshade: let me test it
[06:36] <mustard5> realshotgun, how did you install it?
[06:36] <Xenguy> apt-get remove wine
[06:36] <mshade> sector10: what are you testing?
[06:36] <sector10> mshade: whats scolling?
[06:36] <realshotgun> thank you
[06:37] <sector10> mshade: maybe my english is bad
[06:37] <nemik> and where should i place me .sh script so it runs every time i boot up?
[06:37] <x86i> nagual: also, uncomment this line in the config name resolve order
[06:37] <Xenguy> nemik: what window manager/desktop environment?
[06:37] <mshade> sector10: scrolling -- moving your finger up and down the right side to scroll a page like a mouse wheel
[06:37] <iPrank> hey
[06:37] <sector10> mshade: i dont have issues with touchpad
[06:38] <iPrank> how do i get my mp3s to play?
[06:38] <lsald> Itell iPrank mp3
[06:38] <nemik> Xenguy: command line
[06:38] <nemik> the base/server install
[06:38] <grodius> bob2 do i put in the actual server or the link to the autoconfig file
[06:38] <lsald> !tell iPrank mp3
[06:38] <rob_p> nemik:  You can put it in /etc/init.d and then make the appropriate sym link to it from all wanted run level dirs.  Use the update-rc.d tool to accomplish that.
[06:38] <Xenguy> nemik: /etc/init.d/skeleton
[06:39] <grodius> bob2 is it proxy.proxy.proxy:port ?
[06:39] <Xenguy> nemik: is one idea
[06:39] <sector10> mshade: i have to hold left button down
[06:39] <nemik> thanks guys
[06:39] <mshade> sector10: :|
[06:39] <sector10> mshade: if you get a usb mouse
[06:39] <nagual> x86i: still nothin.  Why would the 2 windows boxes be able to ping eachother, but not see eachother in the view workgroup computers?  I think if I could solve this problem I could fix the samba problem.
[06:40] <nemik> and does cron run automatically on startup? and once i add something to cron (crontab foo.cron) do i have to do it each time or is once enough?
[06:40] <mshade> sector10: i had this working under a different distro.
[06:40] <mshade> sector10: i'm not accepting defeat her :)
[06:40] <Xenguy> nemik: you add the script, chmod, then update.rc-d default scriptname (I think)
[06:40] <sector10> mshade: i have this, with infra-red
[06:40] <grodius> anyone know what command to run to set up an http proxy
[06:40] <sector10> mshade: suse?
[06:40] <mshade> sector10: yeah
[06:40] <sector10> mshade: he he he
[06:40] <sector10> mshade: me too
[06:40] <sector10> mshade: but worst was wireless
[06:40] <nemik> Xenguy, thanks. i alsways run in root so chmod shouldn't be a problem but i'll just 775 it. thanks!
[06:40] <x86i> nagual: both of the windows boxes have file and printer sharing enabled.
[06:41] <sector10> mshade: in ubuntu iw2200 works
[06:41] <nagual> x86i yes
[06:41] <Xenguy> nemik: you add the script, chmod, then update.rc-d defaults scriptname (I think)
[06:41] <nemik> Xenguy, thanks. i alsways run in root so chmod shouldn't be a problem but i'll just 775 it. thanks!
[06:41] <mshade> sector10: yeah, out of the box which is nice.
[06:41] <x86i> nagual: and have been rebooted since being added to that workgroup?
[06:41] <mshade> sector10: i didn't have problems with ipw2200 at all, though.. under any distro
[06:41] <Xenguy> nemik: or 755 ?
[06:41] <iPrank> I cant get my mp3s to play....
[06:41] <nagual> x86i: yes
[06:41] <plumpkin> hey guys, i have a wireless question. i have my wireless card set up and working (its an ra2500 chipset), so i have the raconfig utility installed, and i see the link is up etc.  i just want to know how to make my computer use the wireless instead of the wired connection?
[06:41] <nemik> yea 755 is good too! :D
[06:41] <madsen> !tell iPrank about restricted formats
[06:41] <lsald> !tell iPrank about mp3
[06:41] <intelikey> madsen i don't even know what a beagle is and hate pd'format   so i can't help you.
[06:42] <madsen> intelikey: Ehrm, ok... Thanks... I guess... (?)
[06:42] <x86i> nagual: hrm. wait a sec, do you have anything shared on the windows boxes?
[06:42] <madsen> iPrank: Read the link ubotu sent you.
[06:42] <intelikey> only said that to show that you are not being ignored.
[06:42] <nagual> x86i no.  let me share something quick.  see if it helps
[06:43] <sector10> mshade: do you have nvidia
[06:43] <nagual> x86i: shouldn't there be some default widnows shares?
[06:43] <x86i> nagual: Yes, in windows you have to share something, otherwise nothing will show
[06:43] <mshade> sector10: ati
[06:43] <nemik> so is cron a process that starts up automatically on boot or much it be update.rc-d'd too?
[06:43] <nemik> so is cron a process that starts up automatically on boot or must it be update.rc-d'd too?
[06:43] <x86i> nagul: The problem with samba could be that you dont have simple filesharing in windows setup
[06:44] <Aven> hello
[06:44] <Xenguy> nemik: cron is a different mechanism than /etc/init.d/*
[06:44] <lsald> nagual, also if you're running sp2 turn off the FW
[06:44] <erickUbuntu> any counterpart of visio in ubuntu
[06:44] <Aven> does anyone know a way to run photoshop using linux?
[06:44] <madsen> erickUbuntu: What's visio?
[06:44] <Slaj_R> stupid question:  apt-get doesn't find w32codecs.  Why not?
[06:44] <intelikey> i really wish ubuntu didn't disable the windows keys in console mode........
[06:44] <Xenguy> Aven: frankscorner.org...
[06:44] <erickUbuntu> try the draw of openoffice
[06:44] <nagual> x86i:  didn't work.
[06:44] <madsen> !tell Slaj_R about restricted formats
[06:44] <nagual> lsald: have already done that
[06:44] <lsald> Slaj_R, check your sources.list
[06:44] <jbroome> Slaj_R: might not have the right repo in sources.list
[06:44] <Xenguy> Aven: or gimp.org :P
[06:44] <x86i> nagual: open up My Computer, and goto Tools
[06:44] <bimberi> Slaj_R: because if it's in an official ubuntu repository we'll all go to prison :P
[06:44] <Aven> I want photoshop, not gimp
[06:44] <stevenj> is anyone getting strange xsession errors? (breezy,gnome) possibly regarding .ICEauthority?
[06:44] <Agrajag> erickUbuntu: doesn't that do diagrams and stuff? try dia
[06:45] <intelikey> Aven will gimp not do it for you ?
[06:45] <x86i> nagual: then goto options
[06:45] <Aven> it won't :P
[06:45] <Aven> I tried wine but it's too smart :P
[06:45] <Xenguy> Aven: then pay attention (frankscorner.org)
[06:45] <erickUbuntu> madsen microsoft visio, do the diagram and other network stuff
[06:45] <erickUbuntu> agrajag k i will google it
[06:45] <madsen> erickUbuntu: Uhm, so like an app to draw diagrams - or?
[06:45] <x86i> nagual: then goto View, scroll down and check the box for simple file sharing, then re-do the file share you just did.
[06:45] <lsald> erickUbuntu, kvisio or something like that
[06:45] <DrZeus> hi all; I have an X includes error.  When doing the /configure said it didnt found the "X includes".  What happened?
[06:45] <Xenguy> erickUbuntu: dia instead
[06:46] <madsen> erickUbuntu: dia is great for that
[06:46] <nemik> Xenguy: so if i make a my.cron and crontab my.cron will it always run at the specified times even after i restart? does the crond process start automatically upon startup?
[06:46] <erickUbuntu> k guys thanks i will it
[06:46] <cronik> ok i did wat u tould me to and is unknow
[06:46] <Xenguy> nemik: stop - I think you are confusing two different things :-/
[06:46] <DrZeus> what are the X includes?
[06:47] <Xenguy> nemik: can you be more specific - what do you want to do?
[06:47] <cronik> bob2:
[06:47] <DrZeus> I did /configure for installing a software and told me it didnt found them; the X includes
[06:47] <intelikey> oh multiverse is a big supository  ;/
[06:47] <x86i> lol
[06:47] <lsald> intelikey, ouch
[06:47] <Sionide> repository*
[06:47] <x86i> LOL
[06:48] <sector10> mshade: oh well i think i had a problem with nvidia
[06:48] <sector10> mshade: maybe the kernel
[06:48] <cronik> any one know how i could set up my wirelesscard in my hp 1000?
[06:48] <nemik> xenguy: i want to make a start a process every time i boot up
[06:48] <nagual> x86i: its already checked
[06:48] <sector10> mshade: seems to be ok now
[06:48] <intelikey> errrr re-pository then.....   :)
[06:48] <Xenguy> nemik: then forget cron...
[06:48] <nemik> xenguy: i also want a cron that will then every hour restart that process
[06:48] <Xenguy> nemik: concentrate on /etc/init.d
[06:48] <madsen> intelikey: Freudian slip? ;-p
[06:48] <cronik> any one know how i could set up my wirelesscard in my hp 1000?
[06:48] <nemik> but i need both
[06:48] <DrZeus> what are X includes?
[06:48] <Xenguy> nemik: what do you want to start-up at boot?
[06:49] <cafuego> cronik: Depends on what card it is. What does 'lspci' say?
[06:49] <DrZeus> and why a /configure for compiling wouldnt find them?
[06:49] <Xenguy> nemik: ahh
[06:49] <nemik> Xenguy: yes :)
[06:49] <x86i> nagual: re check it, the only thing I can think of is the sharing info is messed up
[06:49] <Xenguy> nemik: so two issues
[06:49] <intelikey> no,   pun only.
[06:49] <cronik> tTexas Instruments: Unknown device 8034
[06:49] <cronik> thats wat it saids
[06:49] <Xenguy> nemik: what do you want to start-up at boot?
[06:49] <x86i> nagual: and sadly theres no way to 'repair' windows the easy way
[06:49] <cafuego> cronik: Can you run 'sudo update-pciids' and then run 'lspci' again?
[06:49] <plumpkin> anyone have any experience with the raconfig utility? its used for wireless cards based on the RA2x00 chipset, have a quick question
[06:49] <nemik> xenguy: daemon called smsd
[06:49] <cronik> ok
[06:50] <Xenguy> nemik: hrm I'm not familiar with that
[06:50] <stevenj> is there anyone here that knows about xsession errors?
[06:50] <nemik> xenguy: i can script the my.cron and stuff like that, i did a bit of bashing but just not sure how to initialize/set it up
[06:50] <Xenguy> stevenj: google for the error, typically
[06:50] <cronik> did it
[06:50] <Xenguy> nemik: specifics
[06:50] <cronik> i think it works now
[06:51] <cronik> how can i see if its working?
[06:51] <cafuego> cronik: 'lspci' again.
[06:51] <cronik> i did
[06:51] <cafuego> What did it say this time?
[06:51] <lsald> cronik, that will tell us the card type
[06:51] <intelikey> DrZeus you need to install xorg-devel is what the ./configure is telling you.
[06:51] <cronik> i Texas Instruments PCI6411, PCI6421, PCI6611, PCI6621, PCI7411, PCI7421, PCI7611, PCI7621 Secure Digital (SD) Controller
[06:51] <cronik> its it good?
[06:52] <DrZeus> intelikey, oh
[06:52] <cronik> u think is working now?
[06:52] <nemik> xenguy: so i add my daemon to init.d. then i make a restart_my_daemon.sh and make a my.cron with 00 * * * * * /usr/local/bin/restart_my_daemon.sh in it, then do crontab my.cron. check to see its there with crontab -l and i should be good?
[06:52] <cafuego> cronik: Ok, that's not your wifi card.
[06:52] <lsald> i believe your hp is runnining BCM4306
[06:52] <DrZeus> intelikey, then how can I install that? is it possible with apt-get?
[06:52] <cronik> how do u know
[06:52] <lsald> cronik, google
[06:52] <cafuego> cronik: Coz SD is a media reader.
[06:53] <pppoe_dude> ya
[06:53] <cronik> ooo
[06:53] <cafuego> Notably http://linux-on-laptops.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-55.html
[06:53] <pppoe_dude> and it will never work on linux
[06:53] <Xenguy> nemik: you're still using variables instead of values :-)  I think it is time for bed now
[06:53] <intelikey> only with apt-get  :)
[06:53] <lsald> pppoe_dude, they have opened up the specs
[06:53] <cafuego> What, broadcom?
[06:53] <lsald> pppoe_dude, and a project is on the way
[06:53] <jbrouhard> Ok
[06:53] <nemik> Xenguy, well i'll give it a shot. thanks for yout help though!
[06:53] <Xenguy> nemik: sounds like you know what you're doing anyway
[06:53] <pppoe_dude> lsald nicee
[06:53] <lsald> cafuego, yep
[06:53] <jbrouhard> Now i have ubuntu on my desktop
[06:53] <cafuego> ooher!
[06:53] <lsald> pppoe_dude, i am on the dev mailing list
[06:53] <pppoe_dude> lsald, coz i got one of them
[06:54] <lsald> pppoe_dude, as do i, in my mac
[06:54] <cafuego> No wonder the airport extreme driver suddently got a bunch of changes :-)
[06:54] <nemik> yea it'll just take some tweaking, makes for a fun weekend :)
[06:54] <intelikey> DrZeus are you sure that what you are trying to compile is not in the ubuntu deb's ?
[06:54] <lsald> cafuego, what do you mean, 'a bunch of changes'
[06:54] <cafuego> cronik: You can probably make that wifi card work right now using 'ndiswrapper'.
[06:55] <DrZeus> intelikey, you mean in the software that came with the CD?
[06:55] <DrZeus> no it doesnt came with it
[06:55] <intelikey> no DrZeus in the repositories
[06:56] <cronik> how?
[06:56] <cronik> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[06:56] <cronik> is that the right info?
[06:56] <DrZeus> oh; havent checked.  Let me see
[06:56] <intelikey> DrZeus so you can install it with apt-get  and it will work.
[06:57] <cafuego> lsald: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2005-October/thread.html  <-- they added some fixes halfway through october.
[06:57] <DrZeus> I think not, but will see anyway; who knows
[06:57] <cafuego> lsald: I wasn't aware broadcom had released specs
[06:57] <DrZeus> the software is "wireless assistant"
[06:57] <cronik> thats link is 4 me?
[06:57] <cafuego> cronik: No.
[06:57] <cronik> o
[06:57] <stevenj> Xenguy, I have spent hours doing just that, and still nothing. https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9136  my problem is very similer to comment #10 but that is not my post...I am just trying to figure out where to start..no one knows
[06:58] <cafuego> cronik: You need to google for a windows driver for the BCM4318 that you can use with 'ndiswrapper'.
[06:58] <cafuego> cronik: ndiswrapper is a filthy hack that allows you to use the windows driver in the Linux kernel.
[06:58] <sirmixalot> what is the best windows program to write an ubuntu iso?
[06:58] <cronik> damn,how should i type all that info in google
[06:58] <cronik> ooo
[06:59] <cafuego> linux BCM4318 ndiswrapper -> Find
[06:59] <Mabus06> deepburner is free and easy, sirmixalot
[06:59] <nemik> or gnomebaker
[06:59] <intelikey> xcdroast
[07:00] <intelikey> kb3
[07:00] <lsald> cafuego, i'm not sure how long projects like that take, but i know it will be sooner than never...
[07:00] <sirmixalot> becuase nero did not seem to work burnt to cds and they stop insatling ubuntu at two diff times
[07:00] <Mabus06> how do I restore my xorg.conf to its backup?
[07:00] <cafuego> lsald: Yep. Well, the driver as of 2 weeks ago loaded on the mac mini and detected the hardware.
[07:00] <cronik> but i think that is readying the card now
[07:00] <Mabus06> backup is xorg.conf_backup in the same folder
[07:00] <nemik> sirmixalot, i had that problem. get better CD's and try burning at a lower speed
[07:00] <lsald> Mabus06, did you make a backup
[07:01] <Mabus06> yes
[07:01] <iPrank> holy crap
[07:01] <jbrouhard> WTF?
[07:01] <jbrouhard> I should be able to get 1280x1024 resolution here
[07:01] <iPrank> i didnt think ubuntu would be this hard to operate
[07:01] <nemik> just rename the backup to xorg.conf?
[07:01] <cronik> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[07:01] <cronik> it tells me that now
[07:01] <Mabus06> I don't know how, nemik
[07:01] <intelikey> Mabus06 "ls /etc/X11/ "    and see how many backups you have...
[07:01] <Mabus06> I am brand new to linux
[07:02] <cronik> cafuego
[07:02] <iPrank> how do i install shit?
[07:02] <lsald> iPrank, can you be more detailed
[07:02] <intelikey> apt-get install shit
[07:02] <nemik> oops
[07:02] <NsOmNiAc> intelikey : LOL
[07:03] <lsald> intelikey, sudo apt-get install shit ;)
[07:03] <intelikey> :)
[07:03] <iPrank> like the new firefox
[07:03] <DrZeus> intelikey, the software is not in the repositories
[07:03] <jbrouhard> Anyone have an ATI Radeon 9200 AGP card
[07:03] <DrZeus> how can I pull the devel libraries with apt-get?
[07:03] <jbrouhard> and get a better resolution than 1024x768?
[07:03] <cge> DrZeus: sudo apt-get install lib???-dev ?
[07:03] <cafuego> jbrouhard: 1280x8whatever
[07:03] <intelikey> ok DrZeus install the development package for xorg and try the configure again
[07:04] <moquist> I've got problems with some GUI apps going into disk-sleep when I try to open files stored in my NFS-mounted home directory.  lockd and statd are running on both the NFS client and server; anybody have any ideas?
[07:04] <jbrouhard> cafuego, How do I get that resolution?  THe GUI setup won't let me go that high.
[07:04] <moquist> I'm running Breezy, and I didn't have this problem under Hoary.
[07:05] <cafuego> jbrouhard: Mine just picked it up (mac mini with LCD)
[07:05] <moquist> The problem showed up as soon as I upgraded the client to Breezy, and it has persisted even after I upgraded the server as well.
[07:05] <jbrouhard> Oh.. *mutters*
[07:05] <jbrouhard> Now I know why
[07:05] <iPrank> no ideas?
[07:06] <DrZeus> intelikey, then I call it "apt-get install xorg-devel" ?
[07:06] <cafuego> cronik: Ok.
[07:06] <lsald> iPrank, what ?
[07:06] <iPrank> for installinf the new firefox
[07:06] <cge> iPrank: Are you asking specifically about Firefox, or about software in general?
[07:07] <cafuego> cronik: You need to find (on Windows) the files: BCMWL5a.inf and BCMWL5a.sys
[07:07] <iPrank> software in general but i am trying to install the new firefox now
[07:07] <cge> iPrank: You mean 1.5 beta 2?
[07:07] <Parisi> Wireless on Linux is a pain in the ***
[07:07] <DShepherd> iPrank: 1.0.7?
[07:07] <iPrank> yea
[07:07] <RefriedTeacher> Hi, I need some help. I deleted my task bar panel in Gnome and I don't know how to get it back. Any help would be great!
[07:07] <iPrank> 1.5 beta 2
[07:08] <DShepherd> iPrank: If it is not in the repos you have to go to the site and download it
[07:08] <cafuego> Parisi: Only for people that check if the hardware is supported AFTER they hand over the money.
[07:08] <gregf> anyone here know if totem can play .dat files?
[07:08] <DrZeus> Parisi, why? what happened to you?
[07:08] <cafuego> gregf: mv foo.dat foo.mpg; play
[07:08] <iPrank> yea but its not an exe
[07:08] <iPrank> im super noob at linux
[07:09] <cge> iPrank: You could look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:09] <lsald> gregf, i don't think .dat is a media format
[07:09] <gregf> cafuego: thx
[07:09] <DShepherd> cafuego: Kooll
[07:09] <[Spooky] > is it possible to block incoming mails in Evolution ?
[07:09] <tristanmike> RefriedTeacher, the whole panel? right click--add panel?
[07:09] <DShepherd> cafuego: I didnt know you could do that...make sense though
[07:09] <cafuego> gregf: It's off a VCD eh? Just an MPEG1.
[07:09] <Parisi> cafuego,  I have bought stuff that was recommend for linux before, it is not as easy and simple as it sounds, wireless is generally tricky under linux .
[07:09] <gregf> cafuego: yes
[07:09] <DShepherd> iPrank: what the file extension?
[07:09] <cafuego> Parisi: My orinoco cards for instance, "just work".
[07:10] <Parisi> I know because i have an Atheros based wireless card, and its still kinda experimental.
[07:10] <cge> iPrank: But really, you just need to download the package off of mozilla.org, and then extract it. Then run the firefox file in the folder.
[07:10] <DrZeus> Parisi, did u used ndiswrapper, or linuxant?
[07:10] <Parisi> I have used the wrapper for my old Netgear 311v2 based on the acx111
[07:10] <cafuego> Parisi: Yes, but then afetr checking driver status I would _not_ buy an atheros card.
[07:10] <jbrouhard> Nite..
[07:10] <Parisi> cafuego, The atheros is what its hot these days.
[07:10] <DrZeus> thats true
[07:10] <cafuego> Parisi: the acx100 driver is just about starting to work properly for those (I got one too)
[07:11] <Parisi> It works beatifuly under Freebsd.
[07:11] <cafuego> Parisi: If it doesn't work properly, it's shite, not hot.
[07:11] <intelikey> hot as in advertized ?
[07:11] <Parisi> cafuego, I beg to difer.
[07:11] <DShepherd> iPrank: you can just extract it and run it from the folder
[07:11] <iPrank> nothing happens when i run it
[07:11] <RefriedTeacher> Right click add to panel wont do it. That just allows you to add to an exsisting panel.
[07:11] <Parisi> No seriusly.
[07:11] <Parisi> Seriously*
[07:11] <DShepherd> iPrank: what do you mean?
[07:11] <DShepherd> iPrank: have you extracted it from the compressed format
[07:12] <tristanmike> RefriedTeacher, right click--new panel?
[07:12] <Parisi> DrZeus, What chipset do you have?
[07:12] <iPrank> yea
[07:12] <DShepherd> iPrank: and you see the folder?
[07:12] <tarheelcoxn> I can't get to the breezy backports
[07:12] <tarheelcoxn> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:12] <tarheelcoxn> gives me a 404
[07:12] <iPrank> yea
[07:13] <DShepherd> iPrank: and you double click firefox
[07:13] <DShepherd> ?
[07:13] <kevogod> tarheelcoxn, It does not exist yet.
[07:13] <Mabus06> my xserver-xorg is not installed right
[07:13] <tarheelcoxn> o.0
[07:13] <Mabus06> how do I fix it?
[07:13] <tarheelcoxn> kevogod: just nixthe us. then?
[07:13] <tritium> Mabus06, how is it not installed right?
[07:13] <tarheelcoxn> err
[07:13] <tarheelcoxn> s/nixthe/nix the/
[07:13] <kevogod> tarheelcoxn, No. Backports for Breezy has not been created yet.
[07:13] <Mabus06> won't load, trip
[07:13] <tarheelcoxn> ahhhhhhh
[07:13] <Mabus06> tritium i mean
[07:14] <tritium> Mabus06, you can reconfigure it with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:14] <iPrank> yea
[07:14] <tarheelcoxn> I should really be on a mailing list or something
[07:14] <tarheelcoxn> :P
[07:14] <Mabus06> no, tritium
[07:14] <DShepherd> iPrank: and nothing?
[07:14] <tritium> you should also look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Mabus06
[07:14] <Mabus06> it says it's not properly installed
[07:14] <intelikey> this is crazy  apt dosemu  says "After unpacking 65.2MB of additional disk space will be used."   that's just nuts.
[07:14] <kevogod> tarheelcoxn, The document writers have no control over backports. There was going to be a note saying it would not be available initially, but it was removed.
[07:14] <iPrank> then it gives me a "run" "run in terminal" and some other options
[07:14] <Bharath> pppoe_dude, u there dude
[07:15] <tritium> Mabus06, "won't load" doesn't convey that to me.  Please be more specific.
[07:15] <kevogod> tarheelcoxn, The notice will be on Dapper Drake documentation according to one of the document writers.
[07:15] <tarheelcoxn> kevogod: thanks for straightening me out
[07:15] <intelikey> i'll run dos off a floppy first......
[07:15] <DShepherd> iPrank: click run
[07:15] <iPrank> nothing happens
[07:15] <Bharath> anyone else can help me setup my wireless card
[07:15] <sts_> HI
[07:15] <DrZeus> Parisi, Im using an INPROCOMM card
[07:15] <cge> iPrank: wait about 30 seconds or so.
[07:16] <sts_> KKKKKK
[07:16] <sts_> HI
[07:16] <sts_> HI
[07:16] <sts_> HI
[07:16] <sts_> HI\
[07:16] <iPrank> i have
[07:16] <DrZeus> Parisi, I used ndiswrapper and it worked just fine
[07:16] <iPrank> about 4 times now
[07:16] <tritium> sts_, don't do that
[07:16] <Mabus06> I don't know specifically why, tritium. I'm quite new to linux
[07:16] <tritium> Mabus06, what errors are you seeing, and where?
[07:16] <DShepherd> iPrank: I downloaded it and ran it and it launches fine for me
[07:17] <Bharath> how to get ndiswrapper
[07:17] <yi> how do you guys usually go about updating software that's already available as a package?
[07:17] <sts_> SORRY
[07:17] <DShepherd> iPrank: you have 1.0.7 opened?
[07:17] <yi> is there a guide somewhere on how to make .deb's ?
[07:17] <tritium> yi, the Debian New Maintainer's Guide is helpful
[07:17] <sts_> MAY I KNOW YOU?
[07:17] <iPrank> no
[07:18] <Bharath> tritium,
[07:18] <Parisi> DrZeus, Cool, i just stick with wired, its a desktop either way.
[07:18] <sts_> YES
[07:18] <Mabus06> one second tritium
[07:18] <yi> tritium: ok, thanks
[07:18] <DShepherd> iPrank: that's strange
[07:18] <cge> iPrank: You might want to go into the system monitor and make sure that firefox-bin isn't running.
[07:18] <sts_> DONT QUIT!
[07:18] <tristanmike> sts_, please stop using caps, it looks like you're yelling, thanx :)
[07:18] <tarheelcoxn> I think it's a bot
[07:18] <Merlin--> whats the best way to make a duplicate of an HDD? ive searched all over and have always used 'dd' on the fly; but when issueing ' dd if=/hda1 of=/hdb1 ' in shell, the 2nd hdd will have I/O errors when trying to enter any directories... is there something im missing or is there a quick application that can do an HDD clone?
[07:18] <DrZeus> try the ndiswrapper; I have my MSI PCI wireless card in stock(used it before having the laptop)
[07:19] <tritium> sts_, I'm about to quiet you
[07:19] <yi> tritium: specifically, i'm trying to upgrade xqf to it's latest version because it has q4 support, what's the "clean" way to do it?
[07:19] <sts_> what quiet??????????
[07:19] <yi> tritium: if i remove the ubuntu package, and install it from source, i lose the power of apt
[07:19] <iPrank> nope, not running
[07:19] <tritium> yi, you have the latest version available in breezy?
[07:20] <yi> tritium: yes
[07:20] <cge> iPrank: Ok, then try running it with the Run In Terminal option, and see if any error message comes up in the terminal.
[07:20] <iPrank> ok
[07:20] <DShepherd> iPrank: try cd into the uncompressed folder
[07:20] <tritium> yi, if you decide to build it from source, you can use checkinstall
[07:20] <yi> tritium: that's not the latest version of xqf though, and from what i understand, ubuntu doesn't "update" packages until a new release?
[07:20] <Bharath> tritium, can u help me set up my wireless card
[07:20] <sts_> hey!!!!!!!
[07:20] <tritium> yi, right, other than for security fixes
[07:21] <tritium> Bharath, which chipset?
[07:21] <DShepherd> iPrank: and start it from the command line
[07:21] <iPrank> the terminal pops up and then goes away real quick
[07:21] <Bharath> tritium, dlink DWL-650+
[07:21] <yi> tritium: thanks for pointing out checkinstall, looks simple enough.
[07:21] <tritium> Bharath, but what chipset does that use?
[07:21] <tritium> yi, good luck :)
[07:22] <cronik> i having some pro trying to compile the  ndiswrapper
[07:22] <madsen> sts_: Please, don't use caps all the time and ditch the multiple exclamation/question marks. It's annoying to look at and it kinda compares to yelling all the time.
[07:22] <cronik> help anyone
[07:22] <iPrank> where is the command line?
[07:22] <viper> cafuego: do you know a good .dat covertor?
[07:22] <madsen> iPrank: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[07:22] <cronik> cafuego
[07:22] <Bharath> how can i know wat chipset it is using tritium
[07:22] <iPrank> thanks
[07:22] <tritium> cronik, why are you compiling it, anyway?
[07:22] <cronik> i try to install wat u tould me to but i can"t
[07:22] <cronik> get errors
[07:22] <cronik> it tells me to
[07:23] <cronik> so how do u use it?
[07:23] <tarheelcoxn> too bad Merlin left
[07:23] <tarheelcoxn> I found an answer for him
[07:23] <tritium> cronik, what is the "it" that tells you to compile it?
[07:23] <cronik> nope
[07:23] <cronik> i went to a site
[07:23] <Bharath> tritium, how can i know wat chipset it is using
[07:23] <madsen> tarheelcoxn: Answer to what? Life, the universe and everything? (We found that already.) :-p
[07:24] <tarheelcoxn> http://www.turnpike420.net/linux/Knoppix_Uses.txt
[07:24] <cronik> damn
[07:24] <DShepherd> iPrank: works?
[07:24] <tarheelcoxn> madsen: he wanted to clone an hd
[07:24] <Mabus06> failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?
[07:24] <cronik> never knew it was so hard to put something to work in linux
[07:24] <tarheelcoxn> the link will help
[07:24] <Mabus06> anyone know how to fix that?
[07:24] <iPrank> nope
[07:24] <tritium> Bharath, by doing some research before you buy?
[07:24] <iPrank> nothing
[07:24] <Merlin---> whats the best way to make a duplicate of an HDD? ive searched all over and have always used 'dd' on the fly; but when issueing ' dd if=/hda1 of=/hdb1 ' in shell, the 2nd hdd will have I/O errors when trying to enter any directories... is there something im missing or is there a quick application that can do an HDD clone to make a backup on a 2nd hdd?
[07:24] <DShepherd> iPrank: you cd <firefox-directory>
[07:24] <tritium> cronik, it's not, generally
[07:24] <superhew> what are you trying to do mabus?
[07:24] <Bharath> tritium, i already got it
[07:25] <Mabus06> start linux..
[07:25] <tarheelcoxn> Merlin---: see the link above
[07:25] <tritium> Bharath, search through the output of dmesg, and see if iwconfig gives you any info
[07:25] <cronik> lol
[07:25] <superhew> rofl...did you recently install vga driver?
[07:25] <cronik> well ,i wanna move on,gotta stop thinking about xp
[07:25] <Mabus06> yes
[07:25] <superhew> ie ati or nvidia
[07:25] <tritium> !tell cronik about ndiswrapper
[07:25] <superhew> which?
[07:25] <intelikey> what's the perms on /tmp somebody, mine got nuked.
[07:26] <Mabus06> geforce fx5500
[07:26] <Mabus06> It's been giving me a lot of problems recently
[07:26] <superhew> using 7676 or 7667?
[07:26] <Mabus06> i don't know
[07:26] <Mabus06> I tried many things
[07:26] <superhew> ah
[07:26] <cronik> thanx
[07:26] <Mabus06> I don't remember what I have set u p right now
[07:26] <superhew> are you using breezy?
[07:26] <Mabus06> yes
[07:26] <phakso> hi
[07:26] <phakso> what do you think about ubuntu ?
[07:26] <phakso> is it a good distro ?
[07:26] <bimberi> intelikey: drwxrwxrwt  13 root root 4096 2005-10-28 15:08 /tmp
[07:27] <Mabus06> superhew: join #helpme ?
[07:27] <intelikey> k ty
[07:27] <tritium> Mabus06, did you setup the binary nvidia drivers?  What have you done so far?  can you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin?  Did you follow the BinaryDriverHowto?
[07:27] <Bharath> i got some msgs for iwconfig tritium
[07:27] <superhew> ok
[07:27] <tritium> Bharath, like what?
[07:27] <RefriedTeacher> Right click new panel does give ne a new panel, Thanks
[07:27] <Bharath> can i paste here
[07:27] <madsen> tarheelcoxn: dd could do that. :)
[07:27] <Mabus06> I don't know how to go on the internet without a gui
[07:27] <tritium> no, Bharath.  Use pastebin, or #flood
[07:27] <iPrank> I have no freaking clue why this wont work...
[07:28] <mshade> my laptop hangs on boot if there's no wireless connection... how to stop that from happening?
[07:28] <madsen> Mabus06: What do you need from the net? Download or a website?
[07:28] <tritium> Mabus06, fair enough.  Can you look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for (EE), which indicate errors?
[07:28] <cge> iPrank: You cd'ed into the directory, and then tried to run it?
[07:28] <Bharath> tritium, i pasted in #flood
[07:28] <benplaut> any clue how to get back a lost Applications menu? it's completely gone...
[07:28] <iPrank> burned it?
[07:28] <cge> iPrank: No
[07:28] <DrZeus> how do I search for packets with apt-get?
[07:29] <Hobbsee> DrZeus: apt-cache search packagename
[07:29] <Noata> apt get-search cache
[07:29] <cge> iPrank: In the terminal, you do "cd path/to/firefox", and then "./firefox" to run the program.
[07:29] <Noata> oh
[07:29] <madsen> Noata: Or use synaptic if you want a gui for it. :)
[07:29] <cge> If the directory is on your desktop, the path would be "~/Desktop/firefox/"
[07:29] <tarheelcoxn> madsen: that == ?
[07:30] <madsen> tarheelcoxn: Come again? dd?
[07:30] <tritium> Bharath, but I wasn't there at the time...please do it again...
[07:30] <tarheelcoxn> madsen: dd can do what?
[07:30] <madsen> tarheelcoxn: You can mirror a hard disk image with dd.
[07:30] <tarheelcoxn> right
[07:30] <intelikey> DrZeus use apt-cache search <blah>    and apt-cache show <blah>
[07:30] <tarheelcoxn> I think the assumption with the page I linked to is that something is dead
[07:30] <Bharath> tritium, done again
[07:30] <madsen> tarheelcoxn: -image actually.
[07:30] <DrZeus> intelikey, thanks; im looking for the xorg-devel libs
[07:31] <madsen> tarheelcoxn: Oh, ok.
[07:31] <iPrank> it says the folder doesnt exist
[07:31] <tritium> Bharath, looks like your card is supported.  What's the problem?
[07:31] <cge> iPrank: Where is the firefox folder?
[07:31] <DrZeus> btw, i tried to install the kde-devel packages, and told me that the dependencies could not be installed, nor anything else; why?
[07:31] <iPrank> my desktop
[07:31] <Noata> hmm have you tried whereis firefox
[07:31] <tarheelcoxn> madsen: that link I got from an email, which was a response to a guy writing to the list with a failing hd
[07:31] <yi> tritium: will having my own deb's cause problems down the line with dist upgrades?
[07:31] <Bharath> it even says wlan00 is active in network connections but i am not able to connect thru it
[07:31] <cge> iPrank: Hmm, try just doing "cd ~/Desktop"
[07:31] <tritium> yi, yes
[07:32] <madsen> tarheelcoxn: Yeah, I don't think dd can quite cope with that. :)
[07:32] <tarheelcoxn> :)
[07:32] <yi> tritium: that's no good.
[07:32] <madsen> iPrank: remember, case matters.
[07:32] <intelikey> DrZeus maybe something like xlib-dev  i don't know the exact name under ubuntu.
[07:32] <tritium> yi, I agree
[07:32] <yi> tritium: how do you install specific versions of software?
[07:32] <tritium> yi, if you don't like what's available in the repos, you build your own
[07:32] <intelikey> ? name of xorg development libs ?
[07:33] <cge> iPrank: And you can press tab while typing in a directory name and the shell will try to complete the name for you, or give you a list of possible names.
[07:33] <iPrank> desktop works
[07:33] <tritium> intelikey, xlibs-dev
[07:33] <DrZeus> tritium, thnx
[07:33] <intelikey> DrZeus ^   :)
[07:33] <cge> iPrank, so then try doing "cd fire" and then press tab.
[07:33] <Bharath> tritium, even after i enable that wlan0 its not showing up in connection properties
[07:33] <cronik> if my computer is reading my wireless card,could it be working already?
[07:33] <cge> iPrank: Without pressing enter after the fire.
[07:33] <yi> tritium: build my own what?
[07:34] <yi> tritium: repo?
[07:34] <tritium> yi, version of the software
[07:34] <tarheelcoxn> cronik: can you get an IP from your AP?
[07:34] <citrosack> anyone know alot about cdmod
[07:34] <yi> tritium: right, i've done that
[07:34] <citrosack> sorry  anyone know about chmod
[07:34] <iPrank> it does nothinf
[07:34] <yi> tritium: but you just said it will break upgrades down the line
[07:34] <cronik> ap?
[07:34] <yi> tritium: are you suggesting there's no clean way to do this?
[07:34] <DrZeus> intelikey, it told me that the package is missing
[07:34] <tarheelcoxn> cronik: Access Point
[07:34] <intelikey> citrosack "man chmod "
[07:34] <madsen> iPrank: Hit tab twice to get a list of possible options.
[07:34] <cronik> my ip?
[07:34] <iPrank> nothing happens
[07:34] <cronik> or a router
[07:34] <tarheelcoxn> cronik: AP = wireless base station (usually)
[07:34] <tritium> yi, right
[07:34] <cge> iPrank: Hmm... try doing "ls", and see if a firefox directory is there?
[07:34] <Noata> you could do "desktop ls"
[07:34] <iPrank> even when i push tab
[07:34] <DjKritical> Does anyone know of a wiki for setting up VSFTP in ubuntu?
[07:34] <cronik> o
[07:35] <cronik> yea
[07:35] <cronik> i think
[07:35] <phakso> yeah think
[07:35] <intelikey> 8-{ DrZeus }
[07:35] <phakso> 1 think 2 action
[07:35] <tarheelcoxn> cronik: what happens when you 'sudo ifup wlan0' ?
[07:35] <cge> Noata: ? I have never heard of the "desktop" command.
[07:35] <cronik> let me see
[07:35] <citrosack> i see that you do but   unfortionally  i need to know how  i can use chmod recursivily thru my folders but not affect my files in those folders
[07:35] <DrZeus> tarheelcoxn, it activates the wireless card
[07:35] <iPrank> it says "Desktop" when I type "ls"
[07:35] <Noata> no when in desktop do a space and add ls to see the contents
[07:35] <yi> tritium: what exactly will happen when i do a dist upgrade in the future?
[07:36] <cronik> Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0
[07:36] <cronik> thats wat i saids
[07:36] <cge> iPrank: Hmm... then do "cd Desktop", and do ls again.
[07:36] <cronik> it
[07:36] <KiwiWiki> what kernel am i supposed to install for my athlon64? inux-image-2.6.12-9-k7?
[07:36] <tritium> yi, most likely, your custom-build .deb will be upgraded by the version in the release you dist-upgrade to
[07:36] <cronik> dude
[07:36] <Bharath> tarheelcoxn, when i did sudo ifup wlan0 it says ifup: interface wlan0 already configured
[07:36] <tritium> but it depends, yi
[07:36] <tritium> Bharath, are you using WEP, or anything?
[07:36] <iPrank> ok
[07:37] <cronik> tarheel
[07:37] <Bharath> tritium, no
[07:37] <cronik> tarheel
[07:37] <iPrank> then after i did that i typed firefox and it ran 1.0.7
[07:37] <tarheelcoxn> Bharath: what does 'sudo ifconfig' spit back at you?
[07:37] <tritium> cronik, is your wireless device listed in ifconfig?  does iwconfig tell you anything?
[07:37] <yi> tritium: ah i see
[07:37] <DrZeus> Bharath, for reseating the wireless card, try this: "ifconfig wlan0 down && ifconfig wlan0 up"
[07:37] <iPrank> it wont run 1.5 beta 2
[07:37] <tarheelcoxn> Bharath: is there a valid IP matching wlan0?
[07:37] <madsen> iPrank: not 'firefox', './firefox' from the dir you're in.
[07:37] <yi> tritium: that's actually ok, since i'm not passing any specific flags to configure, but i can see how that could cause troubles
[07:37] <Noata> cd Desktop/ ... then do in the directory ks
[07:37] <realshotgun> wow this stuff is tough
[07:37] <realshotgun> lol
[07:37] <Noata> ls
[07:37] <Noata> my bad
[07:37] <niels2> all: major problem here... i seem to have unistalled gnome desktop interface somehow while trying to unistall evolution... cause when i run breezy, it is just a brown screen... what the hell do i do?
[07:38] <Tomcat_> niels2: Install "ubuntu-desktop" again.
[07:38] <Bharath> tarheelcoxn, pasted the output in #flood for sudo ifconfig
[07:38] <iPrank> oh, i just did that and nothing
[07:38] <cge> iPrank: You want to do "cd firefox" to get into the firefox directory, and then run "./firefox" to run the firefox in the folder. Just doing "firefox" will run the system's firefox.
[07:38] <tritium> you have a good IP too, Bharath
[07:38] <niels2> tomcat: where do i do this from?
[07:38] <_> #flood
[07:38] <Tomcat_> niels2: Command line :o
[07:38] <intelikey> the deps are crazy.   every thing i try to install wants to install x
[07:39] <DShepherd> iPrank: you can try redownloading it. maybe you got a bad copy
[07:39] <cge> iPrank: cd Desktop/ won't give any info, it will just change your directory to your desktop directory.
[07:39] <Tomcat_> niels2: Log in, do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"... after that, hopefully everything will work again.
[07:39] <iPrank> error
[07:39] <cronik> it don"t tell me not htin
[07:39] <cronik> nothing
[07:39] <niels2> without the desktop how do i access the terminal?
[07:39] <tritium> niels2, note that ubuntu-desktop depends on evolution, which will get installed again
[07:39] <bimberi> niels2: <ctrl><alt>F2
[07:39] <iPrank> ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open
[07:39] <Noata> if you installed fire fox all you need to do is open a terminal and write "firefox &" to open in new window
[07:39] <tarheelcoxn> Bharath: you're talking to us from the same box you're pasting that info from?
[07:39] <iPrank>  shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:39] <DShepherd> niels2: ALT+f2 and type gnome-terminal
[07:40] <cge> iPrank: Very good.
[07:40] <Bharath> tritium, then y its not connecting
[07:40] <yi> tritium: what's the policy towards shipped packages that are inherently broken?
[07:40] <Bharath> yes tarheelcoxn
[07:40] <Bharath> connected thru lan
[07:40] <niels2> all: just so you know, i am in XP at the moment
[07:40] <cge> iPrank: Do "sudo apt-get install libstdc++5"
[07:40] <bimberi> tritium: because of all that other distracting text :)
[07:40] <tritium> yi, that's a silly question
[07:40] <DShepherd> iPrank: not firefox-bin...just ./firefox
[07:40] <bimberi> tritium: ... on F1
[07:41] <tarheelcoxn> Bharath: that IPv6 address doesn't look real
[07:41] <tritium> bimberi, heh, okay, at least that's a reason :)
[07:41] <tritium> sure it does, tarheelcoxn
[07:41] <Bharath> tarheelcoxn, wat does that mean
[07:41] <dducko> Im sorry.
[07:42] <iPrank> it asks for a password, cge, i cant type anything tho
[07:42] <cge> tritium: I have had times where I don't get a login on the first screen in some distributions as well.
[07:42] <yi> tritium: example...the version of devtodo that is shipped has a bug where it will segfault on amd64 systems and other cases
[07:42] <yi> tritium: i suppose that the package is not broken, but the software itself
[07:42] <tarheelcoxn> Bharath: that you're not getting a real DHCP lease from the router for the wireless card
[07:42] <madsen> iPrank: You can't see it (security measure). Just type in your password and hit enter.
[07:42] <cge> iPrank: You can type, it just doesn't write anything to the screen when you type - so that people can't figure out how long your password is.
[07:42] <yi> tritium: now, if a bugfix release comes out, does that get included? it is not a security update
[07:42] <tritium> yi, obviously, there would not be a policy to ship broken packages.  Bugs do exists, however.
[07:42] <Bharath> tarheelcoxn, how to get it then
[07:42] <iPrank> ok
[07:42] <Bharath> tarheelcoxn, any suggestions
[07:43] <benplaut> can someone send/pastebin me a copy of their /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu  ?
[07:43] <iPrank> ok its done
[07:43] <cge> iPrank: Ok, so now try running "./firefox" again.
[07:43] <tarheelcoxn> Bharath: are you using WEP?
[07:43] <Bharath> no
[07:43] <tritium> iPrank, what are you doing, exactly?
[07:43] <iPrank> i love you guys
[07:43] <madsen> iPrank: So do we. ;-p
[07:44] <iPrank> lol
[07:44] <tarheelcoxn> Bharath: then paste your /etc/network/interfaces in #flood
[07:44] <iPrank> thanks alot
[07:44] <Bharath> tarheelcoxn, k
[07:44] <intelikey> easy way to tell if chron is running or not ?
[07:44] <madsen> :)
[07:44] <cge> iPrank: Sorry trying to explain the terminal is so hard.
[07:44] <niels2> tomcat: just so yo know, i am in Xp at the moment, how do i get to a terminal/command line?
[07:44] <intelikey> errr cron
[07:44] <madsen> intelikey: 'ps aux | grep cron'
[07:44] <tritium> pgrep cron
[07:45] <madsen> intelikey: ... or as tritium said. :)
[07:45] <phakso> i love you ubuntu
[07:45] <iPrank> yea, and having to explain to a noob sucks, i know, i get mad when people ask me something on the GFX forum I visit
[07:45] <Bharath> tarheelcoxn, pasted
[07:45] <bimberi> benplaut: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3711
[07:45] <cge> niels2: In XP?
[07:45] <intelikey> pgrep eeh     :/
[07:45] <bob2> LasseL: -cle
[07:45] <benplaut> thanks a million, bimberi
[07:45] <madsen> iPrank: Don't worry, in 6 months or so you'll be a terminal-junkie like the rest of us. ;-p
[07:46] <bimberi> benplaut: yw :)
[07:46] <madsen> intelikey: If it outputs a number, then cron is running.
[07:46] <iPrank> lol, i know, this is rather fun
[07:46] <iPrank> brb afk
[07:46] <tarheelcoxn> Bharath: and you can see the NIC with lspci?
[07:46] <mae> is there a way to tell tar to strip away levels of directory structure to the core? .. like -p2 in patch
[07:46] <tarheelcoxn> Bharath: and the corresponding driver is up and running (you can see it with lsmod)?
[07:47] <niels2> cge: yeah, you know windows... cause i can't use breezy, cause i have no desktop... i have both installed on my computer... how do you think i am talking to you all right now?
[07:47] <intelikey> yes madsen
[07:47] <cge> niels2: No, I mean, you want to open a terminal in XP?
[07:48] <intelikey> i had not used pkill pgrep before.....   nice.
[07:48] <tarheelcoxn> niels2: reboot into breezy
[07:48] <yi> !ooo2
[07:48] <niels2> cge: no, i want to know what i have to do to get to a terminal now that i cannot access one through breezy
[07:48] <ubotu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[07:48] <tarheelcoxn> niels2: when it comes back up, hold CTRL and ALT and then hit any number 1 through 6
[07:48] <cge> niels2: You boot up into breezy, when it finishes booting, do ctrl-alt-f2, and a full-screen terminal will come up, where you can enter your username and password.
[07:49] <tarheelcoxn> niels2: you can then use 'sudo aptitude' to install packages
[07:49] <niels2> tarheelcoxn: thanks
[07:49] <tarheelcoxn> niels2: what cge said
[07:49] <niels2> cge: thanks, now i get it
[07:49] <Bharath> tarheelcoxn, NIC u mean network controller?
[07:49] <niels2> all: thanks
[07:49] <tarheelcoxn> niels2: it's F1-F6 not 1-6
[07:49] <tarheelcoxn> Bharath: yes, Network Interface Card
[07:49] <cge> niels2: Though if you are only getting a brown screen, you might have bigger problems than just having uninstalled something.
[07:50] <Bharath> tarheelcoxn, i see this in lspci Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Inter face
[07:50] <intelikey> "full-screen terminal"   hehhe  it's called a "console"
[07:51] <tarheelcoxn> Bharath: and ndiswrapper is up and running?
[07:51] <Bharath> no
[07:51] <niels2> cge: it occurred after rebooting after having just uninstalled evolution... my guess is if i reinstall evolution and ubuntu-desktop i 'll be fine... if not then i'll be back
[07:51] <cge> niels2: Ok
[07:51] <Bharath> tarheelcoxn, how to get ndiswrapper
[07:51] <tritium> niels2, ubuntu-desktop depends on evolution
[07:52] <elephanthunter> I'm confused about these Mark Shuttleworth bounties. Most all the programs he names off already have python scripting interfaces with plugins.
[07:52] <madsen> niels2: You can just 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'.
[07:52] <tarheelcoxn> ubotu: tell Bharath about ndiswrapper
[07:52] <yasser> i cant find mplayer, acidrip in repos......help!!
[07:52] <bob2> elephanthunter: then go claim them!
[07:52] <niels2> madsen: thanks... so installing ubuntu-desktop will install evolution?
[07:52] <bob2> yasser: /msg ubotu repositories
[07:53] <madsen> niels2: Yup
[07:53] <Bharath> tarheelcoxn, checking the link , i will be back
[07:53] <tarheelcoxn> Bharath: :)
[07:53] <Oewyn> ubotu tell Oewyn about ati
[07:53] <elephanthunter> bob2: Unfortunately I didn't make them :)
[07:54] <DrZeus> vengo ahora
[07:54] <DrZeus> brb
[07:55] <pppoe_dude> is there a sortof cheap way of mapping the brain waves?
[07:56] <cafuego> pppoe_dude: just draw a spiral
[07:56] <mshade> how to change what services start at boot?
[07:56] <nagual> how can i install kernel sources?
[07:56] <bob2> mshade: what do you want to stop?
[07:56] <pppoe_dude> say when im sleeping...
[07:56] <bob2> nagual: what are you trying to do?
[07:56] <mshade> bob2: well, boot hangs if there's no wireless network to connect to.. and some other stuff i guess.
[07:56] <pppoe_dude> like a cheap ecg
[07:56] <nagual> I am trying to get my dlink dwl-g510 to work in my ubuntu desktop box.  apparently i have to use ndiswrapper for it, because dlink doesn't support linux.
[07:56] <bob2> mshade: so fix /etc/network/interfaces so it doesn't try to bring your wireless up on boot
[07:57] <nagual> I need to get the kernel sources installed to install ndiswrapper
[07:57] <bob2> nagual: so, you don't actually need the kernel source at all then
[07:57] <bob2> nagual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[07:57] <Xirdneh> hi there!
[07:57] <cge> Xirdneh: hello
[07:58] <Terminus> hello. does anybody have any idea why the ubuntu installer craps on me when i try to configure LVM on top of software raid?
[07:58] <bob2> Terminus: details would be useful
[07:58] <tarheelcoxn> Terminus: are you using grub?
[07:58] <Terminus> there's an error /dev/md/0p1 doesn't exist.
[07:58] <Terminus> tarheelcoxn: i'm just about to install. it won't configure LVM after the first LV.
[07:58] <cafuego> Terminus: 0p1 is not a valid identifier. Did you mean d0p1 ?
[07:59] <intelikey> anyone know where the info is that tells apt where to look for the cdrom ?
[07:59] <Xirdneh> Question... i have installed Kubuntu with APT-GET (the meta package) the thing is that i restarted the sistem and i get the Kubuntu login (blue one) but the desktop is all brown and in the Sistem menu it says ABOUT GNOME but in the Programs Menu there are some KDE programs (Konqueror, Konversation, Kopete) odd :S
[07:59] <Terminus> cafuego: well, that's what the installer said. from experience, i would have expected /dev/md0
[08:00] <tritium> Xirdneh, s/sistem/system
[08:00] <Hobbsee> intelikey: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:00] <bob2> intelikey: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:00] <Hobbsee> intelikey: at the top
[08:00] <bimberi> intelikey: /etc/apt/sources.list    line beginning with "deb cdrom"
[08:00] <intelikey> nope
[08:00] <Terminus> so, should i assume that running LVM on software raid right now is iffy?
[08:00] <intelikey> that aint it.
[08:00] <cafuego> Terminus: True; the d0p1 is normally associated with hardware raid :-/
[08:00] <Xirdneh> tritium... yea sorry i know the basics about linux what do you mean?... something specific i need to look for?
[08:00] <Hobbsee> intelikey: that is it, if it's not there, you need to add it
[08:00] <bob2> Xirdneh: so choose kde from the session menu
[08:00] <pppoe_dude> i need a simple eeg device
[08:01] <bob2> pppoe_dude: this appears to have nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:01] <bob2> pppoe_dude: try google
[08:01] <intelikey> that is not where the information is that tells apt where to look for the cd.
[08:01] <Xirdneh> bob2... you mean when i enter the username and password i can choose the KDE or Genome?
[08:01] <cafuego> pppoe_dude: mains power is probably 60Hz where you live, will that do? ;-)
[08:01] <tris622ph> i have just downloaded libgtkmm2.0-doc in synaptic, where it is located?
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> !
[08:01] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, pppoe_dude
[08:01] <bob2> Xirdneh: yes
[08:01] <Terminus> cafuego: so, should i just forget about LVM for now and just stick to software raid?
[08:01] <tritium> tris622ph, dpkg -L libgtkmm2.0-doc
[08:01] <h4zn> how do i make a graph no openoffice spreadsheet?
[08:01] <cafuego> tris622ph: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:01] <tarheelcoxn> Terminus: I saw a demonstration just a few weeks ago on that
[08:02] <bob2> intelikey: sorry, it is
[08:02] <tarheelcoxn> Terminus: it's doable
[08:02] <tarheelcoxn> lemme find the link
[08:02] <bob2> intelikey: you can claim otherwise if you like, but you'll continue to be wrong
[08:02] <tris622ph> thnx, i'll try that
[08:02] <Xirdneh> bob2.. o.o well i think theres the trick let me try it again.. sorry for the newbi question first tiem to try Kubuntu :D thnx!
[08:02] <intelikey> i'd like to change the mount point to something not in /   but i don't know where the info is stored.
[08:02] <Xirdneh> quit : bye
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> k ill find a channel thath talks about eeg
[08:02] <Terminus> tarheelcoxn: hmmm... i wonder why the installer crapped then.
[08:02] <intelikey> bull shit bob2
[08:02] <bob2> intelikey: oh, so your original wuaestion was crap then
[08:02] <tarheelcoxn> Terminus: http://www.trilug.org/~dwa/md-lvm-presentation/
[08:02] <bob2> you meant "Where do I configure where apt mounts CDs?"
[08:02] <Terminus> tarheelcoxn: thanks.
[08:03] <nagual> bob2: i get ndiswrapper-utils pkg not found
[08:03] <intelikey> anyone know where the info is that tells apt where to look for the cdrom ?  <---- original wuaestion
[08:03] <bob2> intelikey: man apt.conf
[08:03] <bob2> nagual: so paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[08:03] <tris622ph> i mean, how do i read the document files?
[08:03] <tritium> intelikey, watch your language please
[08:03] <tris622ph> the content of libgtkmm2.0-doc
[08:03] <bob2> tris622ph: depends what files they are
[08:03] <tritium> tris622ph, I told you already
[08:03] <nagual> bob2, hold on,  trying to update
[08:04] <kevogod> intelikey, Did you edit your fstab file?
[08:04] <cge> intelikey: In /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:04] <tris622ph> o i see
[08:04] <tris622ph> sorry
[08:04] <Hobbsee> intelikey: man apt.conf - see line 227 or so
[08:04] <tarheelcoxn> Terminus: I hope it's helpful... that was the slideshow that went along with a live presentation, so...
[08:04] <Terminus> tarheelcoxn: oh... that's using RHEL and assumes that you already have something running. what i want to do is place root on top of an LVM which is on top of software raid.
[08:05] <Hobbsee> intelikey: wait, never mind
[08:05] <tarheelcoxn> ahhh
[08:05] <tarheelcoxn> he didn't like that idea
[08:05] <tarheelcoxn> (the presenter)
[08:05] <tarheelcoxn> unless you're using lilo
[08:05] <tarheelcoxn> then he said it was possible
[08:05] <tarheelcoxn> but didn't say how
[08:06] <tarheelcoxn> I'm sure you could email the list and ask
[08:06] <tarheelcoxn> www.trilug.org
[08:06] <Terminus> tarheelcoxn: yeah... i've read stuff about that. not really a problem for me. what i'm having trouble with is having the ubuntu installer add an LV to a VG.
[08:06] <cge> intelikey: If I remember correctly, there is a line in /etc/apt/sources.list for the cdrom, but I am running dapper and removed the line. You can also look at the apt-cdrom command.
[08:07] <nagual> bob2, when i try and sudo modprobe ndiswrapper I get "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"
[08:07] <Terminus> tarheelcoxn: well, not really a problem. i just wanted to do it but i can just stick to only software raid for now. i just wanted the flexibility of LVM.
[08:07] <intelikey> cge thank you, but you have no idea what i was asking.
[08:07] <tarheelcoxn> Terminus: :/ good luck
[08:07] <cge> intelikey: what were you asking?
[08:07] <Terminus> tarheelcoxn: maybe i can file a bug report instead. hehehe.
[08:07] <intelikey> anyone know where the info is that tells apt where to look for the cdrom ?  <---- that.
[08:07] <tarheelcoxn> Terminus: :D
[08:08] <cge> intelikey: What do you mean?
[08:08] <Terminus> tarheelcoxn: thanks. i can't really do much here right now coz i'm just chatting from the console on a fbsd box. =D
[08:08] <Terminus> the ubuntu install is supposed to be my workstation. hehe
[08:08] <bob2> intelikey: man apt.conf
[08:08] <propagandhi> intelikey: do you mean apt-cdrom add
[08:09] <bimberi> intelikey: and man apt-cdrom
[08:09] <bob2> propagandhi: bimberi intelikey claims to be asking how to control where apt tries to find the mounted cd
[08:09] <bob2> viper: uh, no, don't do that
[08:09] <intelikey> cge not if there was a cdrom source.   i know about /etc/apt/sources.list .   but what peace of code tells apt the address to the cdrom drive.        and yes bob2 thank you i got that the first time.
[08:09] <nagual> bob2, when i try and sudo modprobe ndiswrapper I get "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"
[08:10] <bob2> intelikey: so stop asking and start reading, geez
[08:10] <propagandhi> nagual: ur doing that with sudo?
[08:10] <bob2> nagual: time to upgrade to breezy, I guess
[08:10] <nagual> Tried it as root as well
[08:10] <intelikey> i stoped asking......
[08:10] <intelikey> duh
[08:10] <bimberi> bob2: yeah, man apt-cdrom actually answers the intended question
[08:10] <intelikey> only answered the two quaries about what the question was.
[08:10] <nagual> bob2:  what is the link to the breezy upgrade guide?
[08:11] <propagandhi> !upgrade
[08:11] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:11] <geargolem> which file do you recommend installing Java to?
[08:11] <madsen> geargolem: What do you mean "which file"?
[08:11] <bob2> nagual: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes/
[08:11] <bob2> geargolem: /usr/local/java/
[08:12] <madsen> bob2: Hehe, all that support made you a mind-reader?! :)
[08:12] <geargolem> bob2, whyso?
[08:12] <bob2> geargolem: keep it out of the way, and make it easily removable
[08:12] <thux> Hi where is thing called boot-script in Breezy?
[08:12] <geargolem> bob2, rpm or self-extracting?
[08:13] <tritium> geargolem, why not use java-package to build a .deb from Sun's .bin installer?
[08:13] <geargolem> tritium, I dled RPM and self-extractor.  Thats as far as I got.
[08:14] <propagandhi> !restricted
[08:14] <ubotu> I heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[08:14] <propagandhi> geargolem: that guide works fine
[08:14] <geargolem> propagandhi, ok, thank you
[08:14] <Terminus> geargolem: get the bin instead from sun, apt-get install java-package, and read the wiki.
[08:14] <geargolem> Terminus, ok.
[08:14] <Terminus> geargolem: oh... that's also on the link ubotu gave you. hehe
[08:16] <bob2> geargolem: tarball, ideally
[08:17] <bob2> thux: what are yo utrying to do?
[08:17] <benplaut> earlier betas of OO.o2 had really nice icons, but breezy got rid of them... how do i get them back?
[08:17] <andrew> hey all - how do i get all the libraries for gcc so i can compile?  its telling me it can't find math.h and stuff
[08:17] <andrew> is that libc?
[08:17] <bob2> andrew: install build-essential
[08:17] <andrew> bob2 gotcha
[08:17] <andrew> thanks
[08:18] <thux> bob2: add commands like mknod so that I wouldn't have say them again after reboot
[08:18] <bob2> thux: to do what?
[08:19] <nagual> looks like this will take a while.
[08:19] <topyli> how hard is it to get bluetooth working these days? thinking about getting a dongle here
[08:19] <thux> bob2 mknod /dev/rfcomm0 c 216 0 and few other things
[08:19] <bob2> topyli: trivial
[08:19] <thux> bob2: what script I should edit?
[08:20] <topyli> bob2: i like the sound of that :)
[08:20] <geargolem> which file should I put SDM in?
[08:20] <p0mppu> what's SDM?
[08:20] <moo> can someone explain this bug when trying to compile a kernel on a brand new ubuntu desktop install(bb)
[08:20] <moo> sudo apt-get install build-essential fakeroot kernel-package
[08:20] <intelikey> how do ya startx with this distro ?
[08:20] <geargolem> Sun Download Manager p0mppu
[08:21] <moo> err
[08:21] <moo> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found
[08:21] <intelikey> without a daemon manbe i should specify
[08:21] <moo> root@Indica:/usr/src/linux# which gcc
[08:21] <moo> /usr/bin/gcc
[08:21] <intelikey> errr maybe.
[08:21] <varsedangger> how do i install icons and theames?
[08:21] <Terminus> geargolem: your home directory. why don't you just download from ftp/http from www.java.com though?
[08:21] <topyli> intelikey: with a default installation, gdm should start automatically. if you don't install gdm, just use startx
[08:21] <bob2> moo: install gcc-3.4...
[08:21] <topyli> intelikey: is your X broken?
[08:22] <bob2> intelikey: uh, 'startx', surprisingly
[08:22] <geargolem> Terminus, because I'm getting 50 different instructions. :P
[08:22] <moo> im running gcc 4.0
[08:22] <intelikey> there is no startx
[08:22] <moo> shouldnt that be enuf?
[08:22] <bob2> intelikey: if you mean "how do I disable gdm?", then 'sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm'
[08:22] <intelikey> no
[08:22] <bob2> !+find bin/startx
[08:22] <intelikey> there is not gdm installed
[08:22] <bob2> moo: no, install build-essential and gcc-3.4
[08:22] <Terminus> geargolem: lol. just follow one. :p
[08:22] <moo> ok
[08:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'bin/startx' (2 shown): (/usr/bin/startx) in x11/xinit ;; (/usr/bin/startxfce4) in universe/x11/xfce4-utils.
[08:22] <moo> someone should make a note of that in the kernel wiki
[08:22] <bob2> intelikey: install xinit then
[08:22] <topyli> intelikey: if there's no startx, you don't have a working X installation
[08:22] <bob2> moo: you should do it
[08:22] <moo> cos it mentions build-essential but doesnt mention anything about the version of gcc
[08:23] <fredux> je trouve a trs leg
[08:23] <moo> i think i will
[08:23] <intelikey> i installed xserver-xorg what more is needed ?
[08:23] <yasser> whr can i find avidemux???
[08:23] <bob2> intelikey: also, install x-window-system-core
[08:23] <bob2> intelikey: as above
[08:23] <DamienK_YMML> guys quick question, I need to capture /devdsp to .wav in console, how can I safely do this?
[08:23] <moo> anyway i figured out why my install was hanging, fdisk didnt like one of my drives, i removed it and it installed fine
[08:24] <bob2> DamienK_YMML: "rec" from sox.
[08:24] <moo> its def. a bug but i dont have the time or the smarts to figure out whats causing it in order to file a bug report
[08:25] <moo> also, what is a TPB file? anyone know
[08:26] <DamienK_YMML> bob2 would that be --> rec --device=/dev/dsp --file satellite.wav
[08:26] <benplaut> earlier betas of OO.o2 had really nice icons, but breezy got rid of them... how do i get them back?
[08:26] <cafuego> GROMACS Portable Binary Run Input File
[08:27] <cafuego> HiJaak PCL Soft Font File Backup
[08:27] <cafuego> take yer pick.
[08:27] <moo> anyone imported their mozilla mail from windows->linux? how do you do it
[08:28] <bob2> DamienK_YMML: no
[08:28] <bob2> DamienK_YMML: doesn't it have a manpage?
[08:28] <DamienK_YMML> bob2 yea but not a real good one!
[08:29] <thux> bob2: is boot-script somewhere in init.d?
[08:29] <xxanela> hi there
[08:29] <xxanela> i wonder if this is the place for this doubt..
[08:30] <bob2> thux: "boot-script" is nothing that exisats in Debian or Ubuntu
[08:30] <bob2> if anywhere at all
[08:30] <bob2> you're trying to emulate "rc.local"
[08:30] <xxanela> do you know how to listen to radio channels that use windows media streaming?
[08:30] <bob2> the real solution is to fix your driver so it makes that device node
[08:30] <bob2> a stopgap is to add crap to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[08:30] <bob2> xxanela: mplayer
[08:30] <xxanela> I have google it but i do not seem to get any interesting answer
[08:31] <xxanela> okidoki
[08:31] <xxanela> thanks bob2
[08:31] <moo> why does the default ubuntu kernel config have MCA enabled
[08:31] <moo> thats odd...
[08:31] <xxanela> i'll try ,
[08:32] <bob2> # CONFIG_MCA is not set
[08:32] <bob2> CONFIG_USB_IBMCAM=m
[08:32] <bob2> moo: it doesn't
[08:32] <thux> bob2: ok then in forum was bad howto it said:"Everytime that you reboot you must re apply this things (which you could insert into a boot-script)"
[08:32] <hobbes_> I get an error that says "C compiler cannot create executables" when I do ./configure.  I have gcc4 installed, how do I get around this?
[08:33] <moo> the one i got from apt-get did
[08:33] <moo> maybe it was a module but it was turned on
[08:33] <mshade> laptop finally suspends... :)
[08:33] <bob2> thux: boot script is a concept, not a filename
[08:33] <bob2> hobbes_: install build-essential
[08:33] <benplaut> never know what alchemy can do with a tear >:D
[08:33] <mshade> lol
[08:34] <benplaut> *squish squish*
[08:34] <mshade> any ideas on how to auto suspend if idle?  or perhaps a gnome toolbar button?
[08:34] <point>  >.>  <.<
[08:34] <hobbes_> thanks, bob2
[08:35] <thux> bob2: ok, so rc.local is real file to edit?
[08:35] <bob2> mshade: apt-cache show sleepd
[08:35] <bob2> thux: no, that's not what I said
[08:35] <bob2> 16:30:38           bob2 | the real solution is to fix your driver so it makes that device node
[08:35] <bob2> 16:30:49           bob2 | a stopgap is to add crap to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[08:36] <mshade> thanks, bob2
[08:36] <DamienK_YMML> will have to work this out over the weekend, thx bob2, going home for now ciao!
[08:36] <jmcnaught> i was wondering if anybody knew if the memory leaks with beagle are caused by beagle or by mono
[08:37] <bob2> leaking in C# is kinda hard
[08:37] <HiddenFly> if i have installed a program by compiling (configure/make/make install), how do i remove it from the system?
[08:37] <intelikey> so is " x-window-system-core "  absolutely nessesary for x to run ?      cause it's too heavy to this box.
[08:38] <bob2> intelikey: of course not
[08:38] <bob2> intelikey: installing less than that requires you to go and figure out what you need yourself, tho
[08:38] <bob2> HiddenFly: delete the dir you installed it to
[08:38] <bob2> HiddenFly: if it was /usr/, you lose, don't do it again
[08:38] <HiddenFly> bob2: ok
[08:38] <madsen> jmcnaught: Memory leaks in beagle? How?
[08:38] <bob2> HiddenFly: (make uninstall might work if you still have the source tree around)
[08:38] <HiddenFly> bob2: it propably went to /usr/ :/
[08:39] <HiddenFly> cos i ran it with sudo
[08:39] <BlueT_> hello everybody :)
[08:39] <HiddenFly> fortunately i have them still around :)
[08:39] <topyli> HiddenFly: usually, install scripts put stuff in /usr/local unless you specified otherwise
[08:39] <HiddenFly> hi
[08:39] <mshade> where to add commands to run on boot in ubuntu?
[08:39] <HiddenFly> k
[08:39] <jmcnaught> madsen: well, it uses about 125 MB of memory most of the time, but twice now it's used up all my swap (600 MB) and it took 5 minutes to switch to a console and kill -9 all the mono processes it had going
[08:40] <topyli> HiddenFly: use checkinstall in the future, so you can remove/upgrade/whatever with apt :)
[08:40] <bob2> mshade: to do what?
[08:40] <HiddenFly> topyli: ok
[08:41] <mshade> bob2: commands that i want to run every boot
[08:41] <madsen> jmcnaught: Hmm, I saw something on that, I'm not sure whether it's because beagle is indexing (can consume quite a lot of resources) or if it's really a memleak.
[08:41] <mshade> bob2: equiv to rc.local in slackware i guess
[08:41] <bob2> mshade: to do what?
[08:41] <BlueT_> I'm mirroring security.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com
[08:41] <HiddenFly> looks like i was lucky this time, as it seems to be removed now :)
[08:41] <bob2> mshade: my answer depends on your answer...
[08:41] <mshade> bob2: start sleepd :)
[08:41] <HiddenFly> thanks for everyone
[08:41] <BlueT_> but it seens that they're all the same?
[08:41] <jmcnaught> madsen: i'm pretty sure it would have maxed out all my ram and swap if it hadn't been killed
[08:42] <mshade> bob2: and make /proc/acpi/sleep writable by group 'power'
[08:42] <madsen> jmcnaught: http://mg.pov.lt/blog/beagle.html <- There's a bit, but it doesn't really give any answers.
[08:42] <dwerf> how are file associations changed in Linux?
[08:42] <madsen> jmcnaught: Might be a problem with user_xattr, but I don't know anything about that.
[08:42] <intelikey> mshade look in /etc/rcS.d/  and go from there.
[08:42] <varsedangger> how do i install mouse cursers?
[08:43] <BlueT_> can anyone tell me what's the difference between the two? (security.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com) @@"
[08:43] <bob2> dwerf: that's not a linux thing
[08:43] <bob2> dwerf: it's a "whatever desktop environment or application are you talking about"-thing
[08:43] <topyli> dwerf: linux doesn't care about them. gnome or whatever you're using handles them
[08:43] <miked> need help with mounting fat32 partition
[08:43] <jmcnaught> madsen, thanks, i'll check that out.  i have user_xattr set.  it must be a bug, it rendered my computer unusable.  i had already indexed everything with that excercise the dog variable
[08:43] <Hobbsee> !tell miked about mount
[08:43] <Hobbsee> !tell miked about windowsdrives
[08:43] <dwerf> bob2 > but like *.jpg-files open in a certain program
[08:43] <bimberi> dwerf: /msg ubotu defaultapp
[08:44] <dwerf> bimberi > thanx
[08:44] <bimberi> dwerf: np :)
[08:44] <bob2> dwerf: it depends on what you're trying to look at them with
[08:44] <bob2> dwerf: gnome, I ssume?
[08:45] <madsen> jmcnaught: Hmm, weird. I haven't experienced anything like it (yet - knock-on-wood) with beagle. Hope I won't have to. :)
[08:45] <BlueT_> i want to mirror both archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com
[08:45] <dwerf> bimberi > i typed the command, what now?
[08:45] <BlueT_> but my HDD already full
[08:45] <bob2> BlueT_: that's great
[08:46] <bob2> BlueT_: so don't mirror the whole thing
[08:46] <bimberi> dwerf: type it in your irc client :)
[08:46] <bimberi> dwerf: ubotu will respond with the info
[08:46] <dwerf> bimberi > i know, a new window should open in xchat, but it doesn't
[08:46] <madsen> jmcnaught: By the way - does your beagle index pdfs (or just their names)? I can't seem to make mine do it.
[08:46] <BlueT_> bob2: do you know what's the different between archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com? @@?
[08:46] <dwerf> bimberi > what am i doing wrong?
[08:46] <jmcnaught> madsen: from what i've been able to find, it doesn't happen to everybody, so i don't know what is causing it.
[08:46] <varsedangger> how do i change my mouse theme?
[08:47] <bimberi> dwerf: that'll be because you're not identified ...
[08:47] <bimberi> !defaultapp
[08:47] <ubotu> To change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting
[08:47] <jmcnaught> madsen, just the names, not the content.. i haven't tried fixing that.
[08:47] <bimberi> dwerf: ^^^^ :)
[08:47] <bob2> BlueT_: uh, one has security updates, one has the archive?
[08:47] <BlueT_> bob2: coz it seens all the same.. :(
[08:47] <topyli> madsen: beagle does index them. perhaps you don't have the tools installed? xpdf-utils or something
[08:47] <benplaut> varsedangger: i'm looking on it... so far, i can't find anything (grrrR)
[08:47] <dwerf> shit
[08:47] <madsen> topyli: I do - and I have restarted beagled (with the exercise var set to 1) since I installed them.
[08:47] <varsedangger> gerr
[08:47] <jmcnaught> madsen, somebody in #dashboard on ircd.gimp.org told me that the issue was known about and being addressed.. but they didn't say what the issue was.
[08:48] <BlueT_> bob2: but security.ubuntu.com has archive too @@"
[08:48] <varsedangger> has anyone had any luck with gdesklets?
[08:48] <madsen> jmcnaught: The pdf issue or the memleak?
[08:48] <dwerf> bimberi > how do i identify?
[08:48] <bob2> varsedangger: lots of people have
[08:48] <bimberi> dwerf: /msg nickserv help
[08:49] <bimberi> dwerf: and register your nick
[08:49] <varsedangger> so i've downloaded some gdesklets , how do i install them... haven't found a lot of info
[08:49] <varsedangger> the gdesklets shell doesn't have tips of the day, is that normal?
[08:50] <jmcnaught> madsen: sorry.. the memleak.
[08:50] <madsen> jmcnaught: Oh, ok. Well, best of luck with it. If you figure out the pdf thingy, let me know. (Of course I'll let you know if I figure it out first.) :)
[08:50] <fdelacruz> Guys got this error Xsession: warning: unable to write to /tmp X session may exit with an erro" I got this error whaen I update or should I say install kde-desktop using the apt cmd
[08:51] <jmcnaught> madsen, cheers.
[08:51] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  what is the link between the error and installing KE? i dont get it.
[08:52] <BlueT_> bob2: and they cost the same hdd space..... (almost the same, i guess)
[08:52] <bob2> fdelacruz: you should read the error
[08:52] <jmcnaught> varsedangger, download some sensors and displays, and drag them on to the gdesklet window.  then double click on them to activate.
[08:52] <bob2> fdelacruz: and then look at what on earth happened to /tmp
[08:52] <BlueT_> bob2: coz the connection between me and security.ubuntu.com is very slow
[08:52] <fdelacruz> aftertaf: yeah, Installation of kde-desktop is successful but when Im going to login I got that error
[08:52] <bob2> BlueT_: they're all in the sambe building
[08:52] <bob2> BlueT_: probably in the same rack
[08:52] <sn0n> g'evening all  :-D
[08:53] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  how did you install kde exactly? and check /tmp like bob2 said.
[08:53] <fgdfd> what is a good java complier?
[08:53] <BlueT_> bob2: so i haven't finished mirror security :(
[08:53] <fdelacruz> aftertaf I use apt-get install kde-desktop
[08:53] <topyli> fgdfd: sun's jde i suppose
[08:53] <Terminus> fgdfd: there's the original javac from sun. you might also want to check out jikes from ibm.
[08:53] <sn0n> fgdfd, if you were a jave developer, i imagine you'd know that?
[08:53] <jmcnaught> i think a killer gdesklet would be a terminal that is always there on the desktop.
[08:54] <p0mppu> jmcnaught, I thought that was done already
[08:54] <sn0n> jmcnaught, there is one, its called gnome-terminal
[08:54] <sn0n> LoL
[08:54] <BlueT_> bob2: so, maybe i should just give up mirroring security.ubuntu.com ? :S
[08:54] <p0mppu> not necessarily with gdesklets though
[08:54] <fgdfd> well i just got ubuntu today
[08:54] <fgdfd> i know windows
[08:54] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  do you mean kubuntu-desktop?
[08:54] <fdelacruz> insatlling is successful, the deafualt login is on KDE desktop now, I was able to login but after the authentication the error occur
[08:54] <madsen> Wtf?!? Metacity can't make sticky windows!
[08:54] <fdelacruz> yes aftertaf
[08:55] <bob2> BlueT_: yes
[08:55] <p0mppu> I once had actually a transparent (except text) terminal sitting on my desktop, behind of course, but it wasn't so cool afterwards
[08:55] <bob2> madsen: uh, yes it can
[08:55] <aftertaf> fgdfd:  forget windows, this aint the same world, dont try to apply analogies, itll help more in the long run
[08:55] <madsen> bob2: Not via the window menu (I know it can via shortcuts).
[08:55] <BlueT_> bob2: okay, thanx :)
[08:55] <onkarshinde> Are there any CD covers/stickers for Ubuntu as there are for OOo?
[08:55] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  and after the failed login it threw you back to kdm login?
[08:56] <fgdfd> when i had linux like 7 years ago i had transpernt windows what program lets u do that?
[08:56] <fdelacruz> aftertaf yes
[08:56] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  ok. go to console and remove the .ICEAuthority file in your home folder, then try again.
[08:56] <BlueT_> bob2: btw, i'm mirroring them on apt.ubuntu.org.tw :)
[08:56] <fdelacruz> aftertaf k
[08:56] <BlueT_> bob2: nice to meet you ^_^
[08:57] <fdelacruz> aftertaf where can I find that file
[08:57] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  in your home folder. it is hidden, it has a . in front of it
[08:58] <cafuego> fgdfd: Transparent terminals, yes. Start gnome-termional, edit the default profile, set the background to be transparent.
[08:58] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  type ls -A in your home
[08:58] <superhew> does removing it permanently fix that Iceauthority problem?
[08:59] <aftertaf> superhew:  mystery of the modern world, but it does work sometimes
[08:59] <hobbes_> how do I remove some source I installed incorrectly?
[08:59] <superhew> i have always had to chown my-user-name it
[08:59] <aftertaf> superhew:  Kde recreates it each time anyway
[08:59] <superhew> hmm, so im somehow starting the kdm everytime i run gnome?
[09:00] <dmlinux> anyone know the guide URL for fixing ATI card to not list as Mesa project, and installing fglrx etc
[09:00] <superhew> must be from running kde native programs under gnome
[09:00] <aftertaf> superhew:  if you setup kdm as your login manager yes
[09:00] <superhew> nah its set to gdm
[09:00] <fgdfd> i need to get to bed its like 3 and i have class at 9
[09:00] <aftertaf> you can remove it and use gdm if u want
[09:00] <onkarshinde> Are there any CD covers/stickers for Ubuntu as there are for OOo?
[09:00] <dwerf> is there a way to 'restore' an application if it returns many errors?
[09:01] <dwerf> it's nautilus
[09:01] <fdelacruz> aftertaf its not working still got that error
[09:01] <jenda> dwerf: what are the errors?
[09:01] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  then check the rights on the /tmp folder.
[09:02] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  what is the text of the error exactly?
[09:02] <fdelacruz> aftertaht I already change the permission
[09:02] <dwerf> jenda, when i right-click on a file and click 'proprties', nautilus quits unexpectedly
[09:02] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  show the text, then we'll try sth else.....
[09:02] <fdelacruz> Xsession: warning: unable to write to /tmp X session may exit with an error
[09:02] <aftertaf> dwerf:  sounds like a bug.
[09:02] <dwerf> it does
[09:03] <jenda> dwerf: Hmmm... no clue. Any file?
[09:03] <dwerf> yep
[09:03] <onkarshinde> dwerf: what kind of file is it? What is size?
[09:03] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  ok.....    go to console, and type this:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[09:03] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  are you using this same pc for irc right now?
[09:03] <fdelacruz> and after the error you can prees okay but when I press the ok it will return kde login
[09:04] <fdelacruz> no this is centos for my server
[09:04] <aftertaf> ok cool. ttype that command then....
[09:04] <dwerf> jenda, folders are displayed properly
[09:04] <dwerf> jenda, folder properties are displayed properly
[09:04] <benplaut> earlier betas of OO.o2 had really nice icons, but breezy got rid of them... how do i get them back?
[09:04] <odie5533> Is there a way to test my hard drive to make sure its good?
[09:05] <benplaut> odie5533: Ultimate Boot CD
[09:05] <benplaut> google it
[09:05] <fdelacruz> aftertaf the kdm is now stop what will be the next
[09:05] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  done?   now type ps -A and see if you have X running still (shouldnt have)
[09:05] <onkarshinde> odie5533: fsck. But unmount the drive first.
[09:05] <jenda> dwerf: Sorry dwerf, I don't know.
[09:05] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  Xorg to be precise...
[09:06] <sun_> what's breezy mean
[09:06] <fdelacruz> aftertaf no x is running
[09:06] <aftertaf> sun_:  breezy badger, just a funky name
[09:06] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  ok:  sudo killall Xorg
[09:07] <osfameron> good moaning
[09:07] <osfameron> anyone else here had problems with skype telephone on hoary?
[09:07] <osfameron> I can't get it to work from either my laptop or work PC
[09:07] <p0mppu> I'm leaving for a vacation....one of the good sides of being an officer :D
[09:07] <p0mppu> (the rest is just a bunch of bad sides)
[09:07] <p0mppu> bye
[09:07] <osfameron> laptop fron www cafe, PC from work network (but with firewall port for skype open - ohther people use it ok)
[09:08] <osfameron> I'm using the dynamic binary, as the package didn't install due to conflicting versions of libmt
[09:08] <osfameron> er, qt
[09:08] <osfameron> so, when I try to make a call, it just says "connecting", doesn't do anything
[09:08] <osfameron> then skype im stops working, and eventually the thing just hangs
[09:08] <fdelacruz> aftertaf its done
[09:09] <moo> what command do i run after make xconfig? the wiki is vague on what flags make-kpgs needs and ive never built a 2.6 kernel before
[09:09] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  ok col. now type:     startx
[09:09] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  does X start ok?
[09:09] <sn0n> anyone gotta fix for the gstreamer ffmpeg crashing ?  (aka : build instructions)
[09:09] <jasonb_> is the set of attributes and objectclasses predefined or i have to define them myself just like in c++ classes?
[09:09] <osfameron> any suggestions for skype telephony problem?
[09:10] <onkarshinde> Please someone provide any answer. Are there any CD covers/stickers for Ubuntu as there are for OOo?
[09:11] <fdelacruz> aftertaf my GNOME X start
[09:11] <osfameron> onkarshinde: the CDs they send out come in little cardboard sleeves, is that what you mean?
[09:11] <fdelacruz> aftertaf I want to use the KDE desktop and check the diff bet the two
[09:11] <fdelacruz> so wat will be the next step
[09:12] <crimsun> fdelacruz: then install kubuntu-desktop
[09:12] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  ok... so X aint busted. tats god.
[09:12] <aftertaf> thats good
[09:12] <fdelacruz> crimsum I already install the kubuntu-desktop
[09:12] <onkarshinde> osfameron: No. I mean if I want to distribute CDs there should be a better way to say that it is Ubuntu other than writing on every CD by marker. OpenOffice.org has such stickers which can be pasted on CD.
[09:12] <crimsun> fdelacruz: then choose KDE from the gdm Session menu
[09:12] <aftertaf> fdelacruz:  join  #kubuntu
[09:12] <fdelacruz> aftertat thanks
[09:13] <aftertaf> crimsun:  no show, /tmp file errors
[09:13] <osfameron> onkarshinde: aha, good idea, dunno
[09:13] <crimsun> aftertaf: what sort?
[09:13] <onkarshinde> osfameron: whom can I convey the idea?
[09:13] <osfameron> onkarshinde: if it doesn't already exist, I guess you could design one, then link it from ubuntu wiki
[09:14] <aftertaf> crimsun:  "Xsession: warning: unable to write to /tmp X session may exit with an error"
[09:14] <Madpilot> onkarshinde: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityArtwork - there might be something linked to off the 2nd page, I haven't checked
[09:14] <fdelacruz> is there an option X that I can switch from one desktop to another?
[09:14] <dmlinux> nalioth any idea what this means ?dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of fglrx-control:
[09:14] <onkarshinde> osfameron: I am not a graphics designer. But at least I can present an idea. But I don't know where?
[09:14] <crimsun> aftertaf: did you suggest stopping gdm and kdm, erasing everything in /tmp, and restarting gdm or kdm?
[09:15] <aftertaf> crimsun:  stopped kdm. not erased all in tmp though...
[09:15] <crimsun> it's probably the ole iceauthority issue
[09:15] <aftertaf> crimsun:  i got him to rm it in ~
[09:15] <dmlinux> Can anyone tell me how to fix this ??? dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of fglrx-control:
[09:15] <sun_> what's the command that list all the installed packages
[09:15] <sn0n> how do you do a 'silent' compile? like the only thing you see are warning msg's and errors ?
[09:15] <crimsun> sun_: dpkg -l
[09:15] <aftertaf> sun_:  dpkg -l
[09:15] <aftertaf> :] 
[09:16] <Madpilot> onkarshinde: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtTeam
[09:16] <crimsun> sn0n: redirect stdout to /dev/null
[09:16] <sn0n> example?  ;-)
[09:16] <sn0n> <~~~ noobish
[09:16] <sn0n> :-X
[09:16] <crimsun> sn0n: see the bash man page
[09:16] <sn0n> :-p
[09:16] <sn0n> kk
[09:16] <benplaut> "man bash
[09:17] <theaks> i've just started with ubuntu, but familiar enough with linux... after roughly 20 minutes my two filesystems (/ and /home) turn read only... any idea why?
[09:18] <crimsun> theaks: what does dmesg say regarding remounting the filesystems read-only? Don't flood here.
[09:18] <Madpilot> does anyone know if gLabels can read SVG graphics? there doesn't seem to be anything either way on the website or gLabel's Help...
[09:18] <fdelacruz> aftertaf sr what will I do next
[09:19] <osfameron> aha, http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?p=148934 gives some details on skype problems
[09:19] <onkarshinde> Madpilot: osfameron: I am talking something like this. http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/galleries/cdart/#christian_z
[09:19] <osfameron> !skype
[09:19] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free, or breezy debs: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:19] <theaks> crimsun, i will let you know when it happens again
[09:20] <CuriousCat> !swap
[09:20] <ubotu> [swap]  used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[09:20] <osfameron> oh, marvelous, left headphones at flat, can't really test...
[09:20] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:20] <Mr_Milenko> that sucks
[09:20] <sun_> what's use of the package "locales"
[09:20] <aftertaf> !info locales
[09:20] <ubotu> locales: (GNU C Library: National Language (locale) data [support] ), section base, is important. Version: 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 (breezy), Packaged size: 3126 kB, Installed size: 10584 kB
[09:21] <Madpilot> onkarshinde: nice stuff... there's nothing like that for Ubuntu, AFAIK, but follow up w/ the Art Team and suggest it - perhaps the graphics from the front of the pressed CDs could be made available
[09:23] <onkarshinde> Madpilot: And how to contact them? Do I have to join the mailing list?
[09:23] <osfameron> aha!  I can connect to echo123 at least, I'll pick up headphones in afternoon
[09:23] <taotime> anybody know how to make rhythmbox work, tried gtreamer - mad etc.
[09:23] <taotime> i basically want to get rhythmbox started and then use streamripper
[09:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone else having gmail problems?
[09:26] <osfameron> gah, irc clients that pimp themselves on /quit is definitely wrong
[09:26] <Sionide> haha
[09:26] <Sionide> awesome
[09:26] <osfameron> BROKEN_LADDER: gmail is ok for me
[09:26] <barongas> Yeah my gf has gmail probs, she's on ms windows though so it's prolly something weird.
[09:26] <Sionide> http://www.ucc.asn.au/services/ubuntu.ucc  <-- the UCC has "Ubuntu on TAP"
[09:26] <barongas> my gmail works though
[09:26] <Javid> hello internet
[09:26] <aftertaf> osfameron:  that pimp themwelses :) lol
[09:27] <Javid> I am a linux noob that wants to get XMMS working
[09:27] <andrew> Javid: Are you running breezy?
[09:27] <superhew> sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:27] <Javid> I will assume I am not since I do now know what that is
[09:27] <barongas> Javid, my biggest issue with getting xmms working was installing alsa and making sure the esd is off, lemme see if I can snag up a guide...
[09:28] <thoreauputic> barongas: no need on breezy
[09:28] <Javid> pretend you're speaking to a retard, since I may as well be as far as linux is concerned
[09:28] <manuvcube> how do find out kernel version?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> Javid: in a terminal type  "  cat /etc/issue "
[09:28] <bob2> to make xmms work: install xmms. run xmms. preferences -> sound output -> esound. enjoy!
[09:28] <bob2> manuvcube: uname -r
[09:28] <superhew> manuvcube: uname -r
[09:28] <andrew> Javid: you are running ubuntu, do you know which version? Breezy is the latest also called 5.1
[09:28] <thoreauputic> Javid: tell us what that says
[09:29] <Javid> you know I'm going to actually come in here when I'm in linux
[09:29] <Javid> brb
[09:29] <barongas> thoreauputic, is that so? How sweet, my next install will most definetively be breeezy then
[09:29] <manuvcube> aha. THX!
[09:29] <osfameron> is it easy to upgrade to breezy?
[09:29] <osfameron> or do you have to backup and reisntall?
[09:29] <thoreauputic> barongas: breezy seems to have the dmix thing working :)
[09:30] <barongas> thoreauputic, suhweet, cause that's one thing that I was afraid would bother people new to linuxes - having to turn on and off esd etc..
[09:30] <bob2> osfameron: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[09:30] <bob2> osfameron: if it doesn't upgrade, it's a bug
[09:30] <bob2> (or you broke it)
[09:30] <andrew> In breezy I still have to turn off esd to run audacity
[09:30] <osfameron> bob2: thanks
[09:30] <osfameron> very reassuring :-)
[09:31] <osfameron> is it likely/known to completely break and lose data during upgrade?
[09:31] <osfameron> oh, I know, I'll rtfm that page first...
[09:31] <thoreauputic> barongas: the only apps that don't cooperate fully are things like frozen-bubble or skype that use OSS and don't know what to do with the newer config
[09:31] <jmcnaught> is anybody here going to ubuntu below zero?
[09:31] <bob2> how would you lose data?
[09:31] <thoreauputic> barongas: but htat isn't a big issue
[09:31] <aftertaf> frozen bubble works ok for me on kubuntu 5.10... :)
[09:33] <Jabid> ok back
[09:33] <barongas> thoreauputic, sounds sweet
[09:33] <Jabid> so, installing xmms on ubuntu
[09:33] <osfameron> bob2: dunno how the upgrade works, I seem to remember that windows upgrades for example would sometimes trash things by mistake
[09:34] <thoreauputic> bob2: if you remember, I was asking about a bug in apt-get where the /var/lib/apt/lists disappear - I confirmed an existing bug in bugzilla. Seems to be related to anacron/cron daily and network not being up (hence a problem on dialup)
[09:34] <bob2> that's because windows is inherently broken
[09:34] <bob2> all an upgrade on ubuntu is is installing new versions of packages
[09:34] <bob2> thoreauputic: hm, odd
[09:34] <Jabid> so what did you want me to do to see my version
[09:35] <andrew> what doesn't work about xmms Jabid?
[09:35] <Jabid> I have no idea how to install things
[09:35] <thoreauputic> bob2: not just odd - quite serious in my view for dialup users: i have worked around it by making a backup of the lists
[09:35] <thoreauputic> bob2: otherwise you have to re-get the whole shebang each time
[09:36] <bob2> thoreauputic: why is cron running apt at all?
[09:36] <barongas> Jabid, Ok. uname -r for version
[09:36] <thoreauputic> bob2: only happens on breezy
[09:36] <Terminus> bob2: maybe because of the update notifier?
[09:37] <Jabid> 2.6.12-9-386
[09:37] <thoreauputic> bob2: I don't know but the sequaence this morning was - boot up - connect - apt-cache search works: anacron runs - apt-cache immediately borked
[09:37] <thoreauputic> bob2: so I don't know what's happening there
[09:38] <andrew> Jabid: type cat /etc/issue into the command line
[09:38] <Jabid> 5.10 breezy badger
[09:38] <barongas> Jabid, yeah I accidently threw you off the track there with uname, sorry :/
[09:38] <Jabid> \n \l
[09:38] <barongas> Jabid,  That's good, means you wont have the hassle I had :)
[09:39] <bob2> Terminus: oh, good point, didn't think of that
[09:39] <barongas> Jabid, tpe sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:39] <andrew> Jabid: xmms should already be there. Have you looked under applications/sound and video?
[09:39] <taotime> okay installed xmms now how to play internet radio station
[09:39] <Jabid> well holy shit it is
[09:39] <Jabid> i r dum
[09:39] <andrew> lol
[09:39] <Jabid> but then again I click it ant nothing comes uo
[09:39] <thoreauputic> Jabid: I recommend you get beep-media-player instead of xmms - if you like things to look nice :) It's xmms with up to date looks <grin>
[09:39] <andrew> Jabid: have fun!
[09:40] <taotime> andrew : i have installed xmms with apt-get install xmms now how do i get it to play internet radio station
[09:40] <Terminus> bob2: hehe. i just remembered it coz this is my first time using ubuntu. i've never seen a distro with something like that before. :)
[09:40] <_jaypee> how can you find out where your usb device is located, ex:/dev/usb/tts0
[09:40] <_jaypee> i have lcd screen i want to set up for lcdproc
[09:40] <andrew> taotime: I'm not really sure, to be honest with you. I don't really use xmms.
[09:41] <El_Che> taotime: rhythmbox is already installed, it can be use to play radiostations
[09:41] <Jabid> how do I make it open even
[09:41] <thoreauputic> taotime: easy and nice way - install streamtuner
[09:41] <bob2> _jaypee: depends on the device
[09:41] <taotime> andrew : sorry its just that i am going nuts trying to play radio stations on my xmms, rhythmbox or totem from my home country
[09:41] <bob2> _jaypee: most don't appear there at all
[09:41] <cronik> HEY GUYS
[09:41] <_jaypee> bob2: is there command like lsmod to list it?
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Jabid: try opening a terminal and typing xmms - see if you get errors
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Jabid: accessories >> terminal
[09:42] <andrew> taotime: did you see that El_Che said to use Rythbox. It can be used to play radio stations
[09:42] <cronik> CAN ANYONE TELL ME WERE I CAN FIND THE DRIVER OF A HP DV1000,I GOT THE CD BUT I DON"T KNOW WISH ONE I THE DRIVER
[09:42] <cronik> IS
[09:42] <Juhaz> cronik, DON'T SHOUT
[09:42] <thoreauputic> cronik: no need to shout
[09:42] <manuvcube> can I connect to an iTunes library over the net with ubuntu?
[09:42] <bob2> _jaypee: lsusb
[09:43] <bob2> cronik: uh, do that again and you're gone
[09:43] <taotime> andrew: two weeks two hours everyday rhythm box or totem don
[09:43] <Jabid> xmms: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:43] <cronik> sorry
[09:43] <taotime> andrew : dont work
[09:43] <thoreauputic> Jabid: odd
[09:43] <_jaypee> bob2: thanks!
[09:43] <thoreauputic> Jabid: try  sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[09:44] <andrew> jabid: are you trying to play mp3 files?
[09:44] <thoreauputic> ah
[09:44] <bob2> _jaypee: tho that doesn't help you find device nodes
[09:44] <bob2> _jaypee: what are you trying to do?
[09:44] <Jabid> yes
[09:44] <Jabid> @andrew
[09:44] <andrew> you need to get the codecs then.
[09:44] <_jaypee> bob2: i'm trying to configure my LCDd.conf file so that it has correct node on it
[09:44] <Jabid> that is all my xp install can do that I can't here
[09:44] <cronik> anyone knows were i can get a hp dv1000 wireless driver?
[09:44] <Jabid> aka all that keeps me not using this 24/7
[09:44] <ubuntulnx> im still running hoary.. anything that really sticks out as bad in the upgrade process?
[09:45] <thoreauputic> andrew: that doesn't explain the fact it's looking for gtk1.2 stuff and not fnding it
[09:45] <taotime> cronic: did u try the companie's website
[09:45] <cronik> yea
[09:45] <_jaypee> bob2: everytime i load LCDd it gives me errors because i believe default node is wrong
[09:45] <cronik> but they gave me a .exe file
[09:45] <bob2> _jaypee: what on earth is "LCDd.conf"?
[09:45] <Jabid> so how hard is that? I  installed something the ubuntu wiki said I had to
[09:45] <taotime> cronik: just give me  a sec
[09:45] <cronik> ok
[09:45] <bob2> cronik: unzip it with unzip
[09:45] <thoreauputic> Jabid: how did you install xmms ?
[09:45] <_jaypee> bob2: its created after you install lcdproc
[09:45] <cronik> is a .exe
[09:46] <cronik> not a .zip
[09:46] <Jabid> it apparently came with ubuntu
[09:46] <Juhaz> what driver are you talking about anyway?
[09:46] <_jaypee> bob2: I have a matrix orbital mx212 i want to work under linux
[09:46] <bob2> cronik: indeed. now unzip it with the "unzip" command.
[09:46] <thoreauputic> Jabid: my breezy install doesn't include xmms by default
[09:46] <cronik> how can i do that
[09:46] <Jabid> uninstalling it and trying again
[09:46] <bob2> cronik: "unzip blah.exe"
[09:46] <cronik> if may ask
[09:46] <andrew> jabid: hold on a sec and I can point you in the right direction
[09:46] <barongas> So... would it be a good idea to upgrade to breezy or should one make a clean install?
[09:46] <Jabid> ok thanks
[09:47] <cronik> from the shell
[09:47] <bob2> barongas: reinstalling seems silly, why would you do that?
[09:47] <taotime> cronik : check this out :http://searchopensource.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid39_gci1134910,00.html
[09:48] <barongas> bob2, I'm thinking maybe a bunch of my packages/settings wouldn't like breezy that much... or something
[09:48] <thoreauputic> Jabid: seriously - install beep-media-player : it's much nicer and works fine
[09:49] <Jabid> if it runs mp3s fine
[09:49] <Jabid> the question is how do I install it
[09:49] <crimsun> enable universe and install it
[09:49] <thoreauputic> Jabid: it does - you can install it from universe
[09:49] <bob2> barongas: did you install stuff from outside ubuntu?
[09:49] <thoreauputic> crimsun: too quick :)
[09:49] <taotime> thoreauptic :  installed xmms installed streamtuner like u said, now everytime i click on an internet station, it opens totem media player but says cannot find the file stream or unable to play stream something like that
[09:49] <grodius> Hi guys- For some reason when I go to config my resolutions i only have 640
[09:50] <Jabid> what is universe
[09:50] <andrew> Jabid: have you changed any of your repositories?
[09:50] <bob2> !+fixres
[09:50] <ubotu> I heard fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:50] <bob2> grodius: ^
[09:50] <crimsun> !tell Jabid about repos
[09:50] <grodius> bob2 huh?
[09:50] <sun_> haha
[09:50] <Jabid> andrew: I would have to know how to do that first wouldn't I?
[09:50] <thoreauputic> taotime: under Edit Preferences in streamtuner, see if xmms is the default player
[09:50] <cronik> the site u gave me don"t have anything
[09:51] <bob2> grodius: "read what ubotu just said, then do it"
[09:51] <bob2> cronik: so, just do what I said
[09:51] <andrew> Jabid: you need to go to the ubuntu Wiki or ubuntu forums. the answer is there very readily
[09:51] <bob2> cronik: you could have fixed it by now
[09:51] <thoreauputic> taotime: in streamtuner, when you click "Tune in" you should get xmms by default I think
[09:51] <Jabid> I was there
[09:51] <Jabid> I really have no idea what I am doing
[09:51] <taotime> thoreauputic: let me try just give me a sec  dont go away
[09:51] <andrew> Jabid: also try ubuntuguide.org you can learn how to add repositories and get what you need to play mp3
[09:51] <bob2> !+repositories
[09:51] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[09:52] <thoreauputic> taotime: heh - I'll be here for a while :)
[09:52] <anup> hey i'm having problems getting my burner to work in breezy badger, can someone help?
[09:52] <thoreauputic> !ubuntuguide
[09:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[09:52] <bob2> Jabid: read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:52] <bob2> Jabid: if some particular part is confusing, say so
[09:52] <andrew> bob2: he doesn't even know what a repository is
[09:52] <barongas> bob2, I don't think I did.. well I did install cedega... but that can be undone..
[09:53] <cronik> im trying
[09:53] <bob2> barongas: then you'll almost certainly be fine.
[09:53] <cronik> is hard for someone new to this
[09:53] <grodius> bob2 i configured the xorg file, and it says i can run a bunch of resolutions , but when i go to the system thing it says 640
[09:53] <Jabid> ok, hum
[09:53] <barongas> bob2, Sweet.
[09:53] <cronik> and i can"t unzip the .exe file
[09:53] <anup> when i try to burn i get this error: ATAPI40X CDROM DRIVE 3.4A (/dev/hdc, ) at /media/cdrom1 [CD-ROM]  [Error]  [None] 
[09:53] <anup> Memorex CRW-1622 D4.0 (/dev/hdd, ) at /media/cdrom0 [CD-R; CD-RW; CD-ROM]  [Error]  [TAO; RAW; RAW/R16] 
[09:53] <taotime> thoreauptic: says it cannot open sound
[09:54] <bob2> grodius: did you read that URL or not?
[09:54] <bob2> cronik: that's not a useful description of a problem
[09:54] <bob2> cronik: if you got an error from the command I gave you, tell us what it was
[09:54] <taotime> thoreauputic :  says i have to make sure i have to check about sound card, no audio, etc. i have no audio on this computer for two weeks.
[09:54] <cronik> ok
[09:54] <grodius> bob2 yes, several times. no need to be rude
[09:54] <bob2> grodius: rude != terse
[09:54] <cronik> nd-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[09:54] <cronik>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[09:54] <cronik>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[09:54] <cronik>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[09:54] <cronik> unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of SP30379.exe or
[09:54] <cronik>         SP30379.exe.zip, and cannot find SP30379.exe.ZIP, perio
[09:55] <geargolem> I'm having no luck installing java on hoary
[09:55] <cronik> there it is
[09:55] <thoreauputic> taotime: oh so it's a sound issue ?
[09:55] <thoreauputic> taotime: you never had sound on this install ?
[09:55] <bob2> geargolem: and the problem is...
[09:55] <taotime> thoreauputic : man i can listen to music cd and the opening and closing music which ubuntu plays
[09:55] <geargolem> bob2, /usr/bin/sum no such file or directory
[09:55] <grodius> bob2 well whatever you are, you're acting like im an idiot
[09:56] <grodius> bob2 i configured the thing like it said to, nothing happened then when i rebooted i could only run in 640
[09:56] <bob2> grodius: no, I'm acting like I don't want to have to ask you if what I suggested worked or not, because I was hoping you'd just tell me
[09:56] <bob2> geargolem: it really said exactly that?
[09:56] <geargolem> yes
[09:56] <cronik> bob
[09:56] <geargolem> bob2, yes
[09:56] <cronik> u saw the error
[09:56] <bob2> cronik: yes
[09:56] <thoreauputic> taotime: under system- preferences - multimedia systems selector, seeif you have esd as sink and oss as source
[09:56] <geargolem> bob2, there were more errors
[09:57] <bob2> geargolem: paste them all to #flood
[09:57] <thoreauputic> taotime: and if you are getting system sounds but not others, I suggest you turn off system sounds and log back in
[09:57] <grodius> bob2 it didnt work, I said that.
[09:57] <taotime> thoreauputic : i have alsa as sink and oss as source
[09:57] <DonnieDarko> what irc client do you guys use? Xchat or something else?
[09:57] <thoreauputic> taotime: try changing sink to esd - is this breezy?
[09:58] <cronik> so what can i do ?
[09:58] <geargolem> bob2, ok
[09:58] <taotime> thoreauputic: yes the latest one they had i downloaded and installed about 2 weeks ago.
[09:58] <bob2> DonnieDarko: irssi-text
[09:58] <bob2> cronik: you need to find a copy of your driver
[09:58] <Juhaz> cronik, that's a laptop, right? what makes you think you need any drivers?
[09:58] <thoreauputic> taotime: OK try esd sink and test
[09:58] <bob2> cronik: it's probably on your windows partition
[09:58] <thoreauputic> taotime: works here
[09:58] <cronik> i don"t have windows no more
[09:59] <taotime> thoreauputic: works as esd and also worked as alsa before
[09:59] <phil_> hellow everyboy
[09:59] <bob2> cronik: you'll need to go find the driver yourself then
[09:59] <cronik> i got the comp cd
[09:59] <bob2> cronik: linux-laptop.net would be a good start
[09:59] <thoreauputic> taotime: but if esd sink works it might solve our problem
[09:59] <phiqtion> nalioth: are you busy bro?
[09:59] <thoreauputic> taotime: try it out
[09:59] <nalioth> phiqtion: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[10:00] <DonnieDarko> anyone know anything about getting my display to show up when coming out of sleep/hibernate?
[10:00] <phil_> how was the eclipse installed in ubuntu?
[10:00] <thoreauputic> taotime: in which case you need the output plugin for xmms set to esound of course
[10:01] <taotime> thoreauputic: how do i change xmms to direct to esound
[10:01] <thoreauputic> taotime: ah actually you don't - I just noticed mine runs fine with alsa output plugin
[10:01] <thoreauputic> taotime: under options- preferences, output plugin
[10:01] <Jabid> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:02] <Jabid> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:02] <Jabid> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:02] <Jabid> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:02] <Jabid> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:02] <thoreauputic> taotime: you might need to try various options out
[10:02] <bob2> DonnieDarko: report a bug
[10:02] <bob2> Jabid: do not crapflood the channel
[10:02] <bob2> Jabid: also, don't use backports if you have no idea what you're doing
[10:02] <thoreauputic> Jabid: don't paste here, pleease
[10:02] <Madpilot> Jabid: there are no Breezy backports yet, AFAIK
[10:02] <Jabid> someone said follow the guide on ubuntulinux.org
[10:02] <zkl-laptop> DonnieDarko, switching to a virtual terminal and then switching back should work
[10:02] <bob2> Jabid: get rid of them
[10:03] <thoreauputic> Jabid: why do you have hoary-backports if you are using breezy ?
[10:03] <thoreauputic> Jabid: Pleas ignore ubuntuguide
[10:03] <Madpilot> Jabid: if you mean ubuntuguide.org, do NOT repeat NOT use that site...
[10:03] <Jabid> because thd stupid guide someone said to use said do what I did
[10:03] <DonnieDarko> zkl-laptop: I'm a newb. How do I do that? is it something in /etc/default/acpi-support?
[10:03] <thoreauputic> Jabid: it's out of date
[10:03] <rosa> hola
[10:03] <Jabid> someone IN HERE not 5 minutes ago
[10:03] <zkl-laptop> wow people are installing hoary backports on breezy?
[10:03] <zkl-laptop> tsk tsk
[10:03] <Jabid> so did I break something?
[10:03] <natecull> hi
[10:03] <bob2> Jabid: no, just turn them of
[10:04] <rosa> hay alguien espaol
[10:04] <bob2> and don't enable things you don't understand
[10:04] <bob2> rosa: no
[10:04] <Madpilot> !es
[10:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:04] <thoreauputic> Jabid: just remove those hoary lines and update your sources
[10:04] <natecull> I'm playing with amsn (latest CVS snapshot) to see if I can get webcam conferencing going
[10:04] <Jabid> so I'm back to square one
[10:04] <natecull> is there anyone here who is running MSN Messenger with webcam support?
[10:04] <taotime> thoreauputic: i have tried that and works thanxs a bunch i m trying to show it to my wife that you can listen to radio on linux. anyways. i don't understand it all, can you like write me down two or three lines of manual.. like ok whas alsa, what is esd. ofcourse i don't want to know the whole thing, i want to know why this works now and not for two weeks
[10:04] <zkl-laptop> DonnieDarko, , ctrl-alt-f1-f6 switch between virtual terminals...ctrl-alt-f7 switches you back to your X session
[10:05] <Jabid> that being "how the shit do i make this computer play a god damn m[3 without having it explode"
[10:05] <thoreauputic> taotime: basically breezy works with a thing called "dmix" which can use esound happily
[10:05] <Madpilot> !tell Jabid about mp3
[10:05] <zkl-laptop> DonnieDarko, f1 gives you the first terminal, f2 gives you the second, etc.
[10:05] <thoreauputic> taotime: I don't know enough to give you a full explanation :)
[10:05] <Jabid> thank you for linking me to a page I read already and confused me
[10:05] <Madpilot> Jabid: follow the URL ubotu just sent you - mp3 support is relatively easy to get going...
[10:05] <phil_> Eclipse was installed my ubuntu, but it has a lot of problem, how do i setup my java path?
[10:06] <bob2> Jabid: so
[10:06] <thoreauputic> taotime: esd is a "sound server"
[10:06] <bob2> Jabid: stop ranting
[10:06] <grodius> how do you start 855resolution
[10:06] <bob2> Jabid: and explain WHICH BIT IS CONFUSING
[10:06] <bob2> grodius: from the command line, with sudo
[10:07] <grodius> bob2 sudo 855resolution ??
[10:07] <grodius> cuz apparently it installed but its saying that doesnt owrk
[10:08] <DonnieDarko> zkl-laptop: so after pressing ctrl-alt-f1 how do I go put the laptop in sleep. I'm a little lost, sorry.
[10:08] <Jabid> when I do the command it says I get an error that says "do apt-get update to fix this" or some such, and I do that, and  I get another error
[10:09] <mllr> thi si is insane im so drunk th e screen looks up.
[10:09] <Madpilot> Jabid: what is the exact error you get?
[10:09] <bob2> grodius: with whatever flags you need to provide
[10:09] <Jabid> I pasted my last error and got yelled at for spam
[10:09] <bob2> Jabid: stop it
[10:10] <bob2> Jabid: do not paste shit in here, use #flood
[10:10] <thoreauputic> Jabid: use the pastebin in th echannel topic
[10:10] <thoreauputic> !paste
[10:10] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:10] <bob2> Jabid: you got that error because you added crap to your sources.list.  remove it and it will work.
[10:10] <DonnieDarko> zkl-laptop: so after pressing ctrl-alt-f1 how do I go put the laptop in sleep. I'm a little lost, sorry.
[10:10] <cronik> well thacks 4 the help every one
[10:11] <bob2> cronik: you found the drier?
[10:11] <cronik> nope
[10:11] <thoreauputic> Jabid: I know you're frustrated, but remember people here are volunteers
[10:11] <cronik> :( looks like im not gonna be able to stay with it
[10:11] <Ironfrost> Hi - I'm trying to compile a program using MPI, and I'm having trouble with it
[10:11] <cronik> :(
[10:11] <bob2> Jabid: which is again caused by you not having enabled the universe repository
[10:11] <Jabid> I'm more frustrated at the os than the people
[10:11] <bob2> Jabid: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[10:12] <bob2> the OS is utterly i nthe right
[10:12] <taotime> thoreauputic: check this out for me por fabor ; www.raaga.com click hindi click anything select all songs and see if you can listen to them
[10:12] <Jabid> it's empty
[10:12] <Ironfrost> (if you remember me from a few days ago, it's the same program, but I managed to get it working for serial mode and now I'm trying to sort it out with parallel)
[10:12] <Jabid> it was all commented out before I used the guide someone linked me to
[10:12] <Ironfrost> I put up the error I am getting on http://pastebin.com/408670
[10:12] <thoreauputic> taotime: umm - I have a stream playing and I'm on dialup :)
[10:12] <bob2> Jabid: if it's empty, you're screwed
[10:12] <bob2> Jabid: show it to us
[10:12] <barongas> Here goes... dist-upgrading
[10:13] <thoreauputic> taotime: checking the URL -hang on :)
[10:13] <Ironfrost> but basically, g77 is telling me that -b has to come at the start of the command
[10:13] <Jabid> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[10:13] <Jabid> someone IN HERE said use that
[10:13] <bob2> Jabid: so, ignore that
[10:13] <taotime> thoreauputic :  i know bro, i lived with dialup for about 11 years, i appreciate in a texas manner what you are doing for me.
[10:13] <bob2> Jabid: I don't care
[10:13] <Jabid> well I already DID it
[10:13] <bob2> Jabid: put your sources.list back the way it was
[10:14] <Ironfrost> (I've tried adding a -b to it, but it's not that simple - it doesn't make any difference)
[10:14] <Jabid> I don't remember the way it was
[10:14] <Jabid> so i need like a default copy of that..
[10:14] <Madpilot> !+repos
[10:14] <ubotu> hmm... sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[10:14] <bob2> Jabid: so, second lesson from today: don't ever modify config files until you've backed them up
[10:14] <bob2> Jabid: now run 'sudo apt-setup' to get the default back
[10:14] <Madpilot> Jabid: assuming you're running Breezy, use the last URL in ubotu's post above ^^^
[10:15] <Jabid> bob2: and THAT wants a cd in the drive..
[10:15] <bob2> awesome
[10:15] <phil_> the sources of hoary can be used by breezy?
[10:15] <bob2> ignore it
[10:16] <Madpilot> phil_: no
[10:16] <wickedpuppy> phil_, no .. sources are built for specific distro
[10:16] <bob2> phil_: the source packages? yes, but why would you want to?
[10:16] <Jabid> ok so now what
[10:16] <thoreauputic> taotime: erm, thay seem tohab=ve some kind of "built-in" player
[10:17] <thoreauputic> taotime: I have no idea what sort of stream that would be
[10:17] <taotime> thoreauputic : first of all i appreciate what you did for me.
[10:17] <bob2> Jabid: uh, it asks you what sources to use
[10:17] <bob2> Jabid: tell it to use http
[10:17] <pwu7> cd
[10:18] <phil_> a lot of other package for hoary
[10:18] <Jabid> ok that worked
[10:19] <thoreauputic> taotime: bleh - that site is full of ads and spam :(
[10:19] <taotime> thoreauputic: i don't know what but if i play it on windows ( dont' tell nobody around here i touch windows) it starts a small window and says, checking for media player and then asks me to choose between windows media player and real player i choose one of them, and it starts working. i know why but i don't know how of doing it in linux, and i want to show my wife it can be done in linux.
[10:19] <alexissoft> hi
[10:19] <thoreauputic> taotime: you might need to install realplayer then
[10:20] <taotime> thoreauputic :  has to be it is the only thing from my country that has some decent selection of free music so they punish you with spam and popus and stuff like that.
[10:20] <thoreauputic> taotime: google real player for linux
[10:20] <wezzer> hi
[10:20] <taotime> thoreauputic: i installed real player about two weeks ago, right after i installed ubuntu on my laptop.... but i can't get it to work, as in with that website.
[10:20] <thoreauputic> taotime: I have realplayer working OK here - I need it to listen to the BBC
[10:21] <lala> lll
[10:21] <taotime> thoreuputic: i have real player working and all that... it just won't play that site. i don't know why?
[10:21] <Jabid> ugh..
[10:21] <thoreauputic> taotime: well, that site is doing something weird with its "player" - it might have issues with th elinux version, I don't know
[10:22] <lala> give up
[10:22] <thoreauputic> taotime: mine works fine with the BBC "player" but just hangs on your site
[10:22] <thoreauputic> taotime: does realplay work for you on BBC streams?
[10:23] <taotime> thoreauputic:  that's coool, i might send the site administrator a terse email asking for help....  but in the mean while, you know how to get streamripper running with streamtuner since i have streamtuner, xmms, and rhythmbox, not to mention totem
[10:23] <bob2> Jabid: so, so the answer is in that file
[10:23] <lala> hfg
[10:23] <bob2> Jabid: it explains exactly how to enable the universe repository
[10:23] <taotime> thoreauputic: let me check about that bbc stuff
[10:23] <lala> heloo..
[10:23] <lala> anyone can help me?
[10:23] <bob2> Jabid: hint: # at the beginning of a line makes it a comment; removing it enables the line
[10:23] <bob2> lala: plase just ask an actual question
[10:23] <thoreauputic> taotime: if you installed streamripper, you can just click "record" in streamtuner
[10:23] <Jabid> I know about comments, I didn't read the file yet
[10:23] <Jabid> how do i edit it?
[10:24] <bob2> Jabid: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:24] <dmlinux> Anyone know if there is a CPU scaling monitor for KDE's panel?
[10:24] <taotime> thoreauputic : streamtuner has pre installed radio stations. how about i want to go to some xyz-website-.com and listen to their tunes and download
[10:25] <taotime> thoreauputic: can i just do it any website or is it limited to live365 etc.
[10:25] <thoreauputic> taotime: then you need to get the m3u or pls file, and load the right url in streamripper
[10:25] <thoreauputic> and/or streamtuner
[10:25] <taotime> thoreauputic :  any direct way of doing it like click and play
[10:26] <lala> me..
[10:26] <budluva> hey, can someone point me in the right direction here, im using this guide >>> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074 to install the NVIDIA drivers... and it asks me to ctrl-alt-f1 to console and kill gdm well i killed gdm and entrance and ran the nvidia installer but it still asks me to log off x, well im not running X, i've followed the guide precisely, whats wrong?
[10:26] <thoreauputic> taotime: normally firefox pops up a dialogue box that asks what you want to do with the stream - you can choose for instance totem or beep or xmms etc
[10:26] <lala> justb pres quit
[10:27] <wickedpuppy> budluva, run top ...do you see Xorg ?
[10:27] <thoreauputic> taotime: if that works you can set "dp this every time"
[10:27] <bob2> budluva: ignore that
[10:27] <budluva> no
[10:27] <bob2> budluva: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:27] <thoreauputic>   /s/dp/do
[10:27] <bob2> in general, assume guides on the forums are wrong, unless proven otherwise
[10:27] <budluva> but there is a X0-lock so nvidia install thinks x is running...let me get the error again...
[10:27] <taotime> thoreauputic :  what if if dosen't how to make it change, like i said, i just opens totem, and looks at me like a drooling child who has no clue about who broke the bottle
[10:27] <thoreauputic> bob2: heh
[10:28] <budluva> nano /var/log/nvidia-installer.log
[10:28] <grodius> what is the command to run 855resolution? When I run it I get command not found
[10:28] <bob2> budluva: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:28] <bob2> grodius: uh, then install it?
[10:28] <budluva> -> The file /tmp/.X0-loacl exists...an X server appears to be running
[10:28] <grodius> bob2 i did
[10:28] <thoreauputic> taotime: heh - umm - ifthe format is compatible, it should play
[10:28] <budluva> please exit x
[10:28] <bob2> budluva: that guide is wrong, ignore it
[10:28] <grodius> bob2 when i go to synaptic it says its installed
[10:28] <lala> but if have not seen a image..
[10:28] <bob2> grodius: and the name of the package is.,..?
[10:28] <thoreauputic> taotime: you have mp3 support and win 32 codecs installed?
[10:29] <thoreauputic> !tell taotime about restricted
[10:29] <grodius> bob2 after using alien: 855resolution_0.4-2_all.deb
[10:29] <budluva> bob2 maybe they should delete obsolete guides in the forums then :P isnt that a moderator's job? :P
[10:29] <taotime> thoreauputic : dont't know how do i check it
[10:29] <thoreauputic> taotime: read the URL ubotu just messaged to you
[10:29] <bob2> grodius: ha ha ha
[10:29] <bob2> grodius: dpkg -L 855resolution | grep bin
[10:30] <thoreauputic> taotime: see it?
[10:30] <taotime> thoreauputic : got it i m gonn read it.
[10:30] <bob2> budluva: I'm shocked it slipped through, really
[10:30] <bob2> normally the forums contain only correct and well-reviewd information
[10:30] <taotime> thoreauputic : yeah i see it... just gimme a sec
[10:30] <grodius> bob2 what does it mean
[10:30] <thoreauputic> taotime: also a good place to read is http://help.ubuntu.com
[10:30] <bob2> grodius: it's a command for you to run
[10:30] <thoreauputic> !tell taotime about docs
[10:30] <thoreauputic> taotime: and that one
[10:31] <grodius> bob2 after i run it should sudo 855resolution -l work
[10:31] <grodius> bob2 cuz it doesnt
[10:31] <barongas> I'm annoyed, my OpenGL flickers all the time with ati fglrx installed :/
[10:31] <viller> hi
[10:31] <taotime> thoreauputic : yeah i m off to read http://help.ubuntu.com
[10:32] <thoreauputic> taotime: most of th einfo you need is there :)
[10:32] <taotime> thoreauputic: thank you i appreciate it.
[10:32] <thoreauputic> taotime: plus other useful stuff
[10:32] <Danny|> is there a way to search for a package with apt-get?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> taotime: you're welcome :)
[10:32] <bob2> grodius: no, of course not
[10:33] <bob2> grodius: just run the bloody command and show us what it printed
[10:33] <ktogias> Danny|, apt-cache search
[10:33] <bob2> Danny|: apt-cache search key words
[10:33] <Danny|> thanks
[10:33] <thoreauputic> Danny|: apt-cache search <keyword>
[10:33] <grodius> bob2 didnt print anything
[10:33] <Danny|> lol
[10:33] <bob2> grodius: then you're doomed
[10:33] <bob2> grodius: go and get the i855 source and compile it
[10:34] <after8> can anyone talk me through setting up a nat/LAN on my 2 pcs........ i have this pc with 2 NICS but i cant get it to work right...
[10:34] <andis> ir ok :)
[10:35] <thoreauputic> grr.. gnome-terminal with tabs doesn't like alt-number with irssi... just changes tabs,,,
[10:35] <grodius> bob2 to install the package am i meant to do dpkg -i <855resfilename.deb>
[10:35] <bob2> grodius: please read what I said
[10:35] <StarKruzr> zzz
[10:35] <bob2> grodius: but yes
[10:35] <bob2> grodius: not that it matters, since your "package" is fucked.  go compile i855 from source.
[10:36] <qchr> how install libmp3lame?
[10:36] <Ironfrost> Sorry to repeat, but nobody answered me the first time: I have a problem compiling a program with MPI (for parallel)
[10:37] <Ironfrost> I put up the error message to http://pastebin.com/408670
[10:37] <Ironfrost> but basically G77 is saying "`-b' must come at the start of the command line"
[10:37] <rob_p> after8:  Internet connection sharing howto and NAT routing script for Ubuntu -->  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/12/27/
[10:37] <Ironfrost> just adding -b to the start makes no difference
[10:37] <bob2> Ironfrost: you're extraordinarily unlikely to get help with fortran compilation here
[10:37] <after8> thx rob_p ill take a peek
[10:38] <Ironfrost> bob2 - OK, sorry. Where would be a good place?
[10:38] <explos> how to network 2 pcs in linux?
[10:38] <bob2> Ironfrost: perhaps the ubuntu-sers list
[10:38] <bob2> explos: please be far more specific
[10:38] <bob2> explos: also, stop chaning your nick, that's just annoying
[10:39] <thoreauputic> qchr: what are you trying to do? If you need lame just install lame
[10:39] <thoreauputic> !info lame
[10:39] <Ironfrost> OK, I'll look for somewhere more suitable. Sorry for bothering you all.
[10:39] <ubotu> lame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB
[10:39] <explos> haaa..bob  u r clever :)
[10:39] <indypende> what's about a good cover editor?
[10:39] <bob2> "cover editor"?
[10:39] <indypende> what's about a good cd cover editor?
[10:39] <bob2> explos: no, just annoyed at you being so silly
[10:39] <cafuego> !info lame dapper
[10:39] <grodius> bob2 where can i find source?
[10:39] <bob2> grodius: no idea
[10:40] <explos> im trying to connect 2 pcs which are running debian on 2.4 kernel they are connected using crossover cable
[10:40] <Madpilot> indypende: gLabels has CD cover templates in it, but it's a pretty basic editor
[10:40] <jenda> grodius: surce ta what?
[10:40] <ubotu> lame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (dapper), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB
[10:40] <grodius> bob2 will it consist of .dsc and 2 .gz files?
[10:40] <cafuego> thoreauputic: you must be in australia or china then
[10:40] <bob2> grodius: no, it will be a source tarball, which you will build and install to /usr/local/
[10:40] <thoreauputic> cafuego: well yes, as you know by now :)
[10:41] <explos> infact im not silly im new to IRC i dont know the etiquette when it comes to typing the stuff
[10:41] <bob2> if you don't know how to find packages and you're using dapper, please don't have children.
[10:41] <qchr> thoreauputic, i need libmp3lame to compile mplayer
[10:41] <thoreauputic> hah @ bob2
[10:41] <jenda> bob2: That was nasty
[10:41] <explos> bob2:can you help me out
[10:41] <cafuego> thoreauputic: the -users mailing list is a tad of a dead giveaway though ;-)
[10:41] <simbad> I have an notebook without cd and floppy. I copied the files of an ubuntu-iso to an extra partition. I am using grub to boot the ubuntu-installation from the hd, but during the installation ubuntu searches for a physical cdrom instead of simply using the mounet /cdrom directory. Any ideas how to avoid this?
[10:41] <bob2> explos: the ettiquete is "do not keep changing your nick. ask an actual useful question, specifying what you hope to achieve and where you are now."
[10:41] <bob2> jenda: but fair!
[10:41] <thoreauputic> qchr: what's wrong with the mplayer in multiverse?
[10:41] <bob2> using dapper does not make you eleet
[10:42] <jenda> bob2: I must admit that.
[10:42] <indypende> anyone know that it's planned an update of libsane for breezy?
[10:42] <cafuego> No, to be eleet you must use gentoo.
[10:42] <qchr> thoreauputic, i dont tried mplayer in multiverse
[10:42] <thoreauputic> cafuego: heh - well maybe I should use my @ubuntu.com address ;-) (But I think that would be a bit of a wank, honestly)
[10:42] <bob2> indypende: extremely unlikely unless a security hole has been found
[10:42] <viller> i want to install linuxwacom drivers, the guide on the website (linuxwacom.sourceforge.net) is talking about xfree, I googled it and it seems to be something similar to xorg, ubuntu doesn't have that?
[10:42] <cafuego> indypende: Is there a vulnerability or bug?
[10:42] <budluva> ok
[10:42] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-586
[10:43] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[10:43] <itziar> chipirones me vais a comer la polla
[10:43] <indypende> bob2, bad news!
[10:43] <budluva> so how do i know if this nvidia glx legacy binary installed right?
[10:43] <bob2> indypende: ?
[10:43] <cafuego> budluva: If you didn't get errors it worked.
[10:43] <itziar> I will reconpilate your kernel chipirona
[10:43] <Mr_Milenko> night everybody
[10:43] <budluva> i dont see an nvidia logo when restarting x, but i never have so i dont know, do i still have to change "nv" to "nvidia" in xorg.conf?
[10:43] <jenda> Mr_Milenko: Good morning
[10:43] <bob2> indypende: this is an english-speaking channel...
[10:43] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[10:43] <bob2> budluva: that wiki page doesn't explain it?
[10:43] <itziar> I will fuck you all
[10:43] <explos> i just want the second pc to share my internet connection using the network interface
[10:43] <Mr_Milenko> 5am
[10:44] <Mr_Milenko> time for sleep
[10:44] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[10:44] <viller> i want to install linuxwacom drivers, the guide on the website (linuxwacom.sourceforge.net) is talking about xfree, I googled it and it seems to be something similar to xorg, ubuntu doesn't have that?
[10:44] <cafuego> budluva: No, sumply run 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'
[10:44] <bob2> explos: so, setup both interfaces, then install firestarter
[10:44] <viller> i want to install linuxwacom drivers, the guide on the website (linuxwacom.sourceforge.net) is talking about xfree, I googled it and it seems to be something similar to xorg, ubuntu doesn't have that?
[10:44] <bob2> viller: please don't repeat
[10:45] <bob2> viller: xfree86 is the abandoned old X server, everyone uses x.org now
[10:45] <grodius> bob2 i found a site, but under 'source files' has .dsc, .gz, and .gz files
[10:45] <thoreauputic> viller: ubuntu uses xorg, not xfree86, yes
[10:45] <grodius> bob2 i dont use these?
[10:45] <bob2> grodius: use whatever you want
[10:45] <bob2> grodius: dpkg-source -x foo.dsc
[10:45] <simbad> Would cdrom-checker accept a loop-device using a .iso ?
[10:45] <grodius> bob2 but i dont understand how to do this source thing you're speaking of
[10:45] <viller> bob2, thoreauputic: so if it says something about xfree i'll do stuff with xorg instead??
[10:45] <bob2> grodius: awesome
[10:46] <budluva> glxinfo causes seg fault
[10:46] <bob2> simbad: just use md5sum
[10:46] <bob2> budluva: then you screwed up
[10:46] <bob2> budluva: also read the last bit of "dmesg"
[10:46] <explos> bob2:how to get the second pc IP address?'coz when i look into the second pc add i get that one as 127.0.0.1 which is loc ass
[10:46] <bob2> viller: may work
[10:46] <bob2> explos: ignore that
[10:46] <simbad> bob2: Why md5sum?
[10:46] <bob2> grodius: download. put all 3 into one dir. dpkg-source -x foo.dsc.
[10:46] <bluefrog-10> budluva, after enabling it, reboot
[10:46] <bluefrog-10> budluva, not just restart X server
[10:46] <bob2> simbad: is cdrom-checker the d-i module that verifies the CD?
[10:47] <budluva> ok
[10:47] <simbad> bob2: I think so, yes.
[10:47] <explos> bob2:how to connect the pc thru command console?
[10:47] <explos> bob2:without installing firestarter
[10:47] <larsson_> I need to get grub back, so i have been reading this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652&highlight=restore+grub    , but HOW do i mount the partitions?
[10:47] <bob2> explos: I have no idea what that sentence means
[10:47] <simbad> bob2 hmmm, maybe I am on the wrong path
[10:48] <bob2> simbad: what are you trying to do?
[10:48] <viller> i can't use my expensive wacom on linux, i have to go back to windows, http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/beforestart it's sooo messy text, i don't understand a thing
[10:49] <hobbes_> anybody awake?
[10:49] <thoreauputic> larsson_:  sudo mount -t <filesystem type> /dev/hdX /mount/point
[10:49] <bob2> viller: that's a shame, but good luck with windows.  seeya!
[10:49] <mips> yes, it is 10:50am here
[10:49] <thoreauputic> larsson_: where X and the othe rbits depend on your setup
[10:49] <hobbes_> cool
[10:49] <grodius> bob2 do i replace foo.dsc w the name of my file?
[10:49] <hobbes_> I'm having some trouble getting the wireless client to connect to my router
[10:49] <grodius> bob2 for example i have them all in a folder called source on my desktop
[10:50] <grodius> bob2 do i need to put the full path in the command?
[10:50] <simbad> bob2: I have a notebook without any removeable medias. So I installed every file of an ubuntu-installation to an extrapartition, used grub to start the installation. Now it searches for a ubuntu-cd. I think it should work if I copy a iso to this partition using losetup. thx
[10:50] <thoreauputic> larsson_: you can usually just use /mnt as a mount point
[10:50] <bob2> grodius: ...yes.
[10:50] <bob2> grodius: you put them wherever the hell you want
[10:50] <bob2> grodius: you run the command in whatever dir you put them in
[10:50] <mips> hobbes, sorry cant help there, what chipset does it use ?
[10:50] <hobbes_> atheros
[10:50] <larsson_> But i am in the partition setup now, and you are supose to be able to mount your partitions there.
[10:50] <grodius> bob2 it still does not work weird
[10:50] <bob2> simbad: it cant tftp-boot?
[10:50] <bob2> grodius: "does not work" is not a useful description of the problem
[10:50] <budluva1> how do i make usplash background white not black?
[10:50] <hobbes_> I'm trying to get it out of IP6
[10:50] <bob2> grodius: you need to show us the error (in #flood)
[10:51] <budluva1> and now my x is right fooked
[10:51] <grodius> k
[10:51] <_D> where do i find the freenode opers ?
[10:51] <bob2> _D: why?
[10:51] <budluva1> where is the config which decides what login manager to use? i have entrance for e installed, but want to go back to gdm
[10:51] <wickedpuppy> _D, why ?
[10:51] <_D> i want a nick droped
[10:52] <_D> so i can register
[10:52] <bob2> #freenode
[10:52] <bettong_BOFH> anyone know how to change the port bit torrent uses?
[10:52] <thoreauputic> _D: #freenode ?
[10:52] <mips> hobbes, have you had a look at the Ubuntu Networking/Laptop forums ?
[10:52] <larsson_> thoreauputic, But i am in the partition setup now, and you are supose to be able to mount your partitions there.
[10:52] <_D> #freenode is +m
[10:52] <bob2> grodius: so
[10:52] <wickedpuppy> you can drop it yourself
[10:52] <bob2> grodius: that error is quite clear
[10:52] <bob2> grodius: also, don't use sudo
[10:52] <wickedpuppy>  /msg nickserv help
[10:52] <aeon17x> bettong_BOFH: depends on what client you're using.
[10:52] <simbad> bob2: yes, it can. But I decided before for this solution (Obviously a fault :-)
[10:52] <bettong_BOFH> bit torrent
[10:52] <i-x> Hello! Anyone in here who is skilled at QEMU
[10:52] <i-x> ?
[10:52] <_D> wickedpuppy :its not mine but it looks like it gavent been used for more than 60 days
[10:52] <bettong_BOFH> the one that comes with ubuntu
[10:52] <bob2> grodius: also, 'dpkg-source -x whatever.dsc'.  as I said, run it in the directory you put them, then you only need to specify the filename.
[10:53] <bob2> simbad: tftp is a lot simpler...I don't know if it's even possible to do what you're trying to do
[10:53] <wickedpuppy> _D, then you gotta wait ...
[10:53] <jenda> I need help with installing the NVIDIA driver
[10:53] <grodius> bob2 how do i run it in a specific directory
[10:53] <bob2> grodius: cd /what/eva/
[10:53] <grodius> bob2 k
[10:53] <jenda> I've had it installed before, but I innstalled the 686 kernel and need to reinstall the driver as a result.
[10:53] <simbad> bob2: I will find out. I was not sure, if ubuntu starts things like nfs during bootup.
[10:54] <bettong_BOFH> so is there anyway to change the port in the bittorrent client that comes with ubuntu?
[10:54] <bluefrog-10> jenda, just enable it again should do
[10:54] <_D> yeah now i understand how this work i go to #freenode and wait :-)
[10:54] <Java_the_Hutt> I have an oKI C3200 printer but seems there's no driver for it. What can i do ?
[10:54] <bob2> jenda: uh? install linux-686, reboot, all done.
[10:55] <jenda> bluefrog-10, bob2: that's what I did, but I had to disable the driver - X wouldn't start
[10:55] <aeon17x> bettong_BOFH: I don't use the default torrent client in Ubuntu (I prefer Azureus), but you might want to look up "man gnome-btdownload" in the terminal and try the options.
[10:55] <bob2> jenda: you really installed that package?
[10:55] <after8> jenda> nvidia site driver, or ubuntu package driver?
[10:55] <grodius> bob2 look in flood
[10:55] <jenda> bluefrog-10, bob2: I thaought the driver needs a 686 module
[10:55] <bob2> jenda: um, which is installed when you install the linux-686 package.
[10:55] <bettong_BOFH> aeon17x, is Azureus any good and will it run in ubuntu?
[10:55] <bob2> grodius: so it's done
[10:55] <godkilla> 'lo
[10:56] <bluefrog-10> jenda, they are in 686 restricted modules
[10:56] <grodius> bob2 now i have this folder, how do i install the prog?
[10:56] <after8> jenda> if you used the nvidia .run package, rerun it with the --uninstall flag
[10:56] <jenda> bob2: damn. Why didn't it start up then? And the nvedia installer says that it can't find a module on my PC, can't DL one, nor can it compile one (no source
[10:56] <bob2> grodius: blah
[10:56] <after8> jenda> dont use that package. thats why. use the ubuntu ones
[10:56] <jenda> after8: are you sure?
[10:57] <grodius> bob2 :) sorry nub here
[10:57] <aeon17x> bettong_BOFH: actually that's what I'm using right now. And it's quite good.
[10:57] <bob2> grodius: cd into it, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us
[10:57] <after8> 10000000%
[10:57] <after8> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[10:57] <bob2> jenda: any plan involving an "nvidia installer" is doomed
[10:57] <bob2> jenda: just don'teven try
[10:57] <jenda> bob2: hehe... So what DO I do?
[10:57] <bettong_BOFH> aeon17x,  which do i want?
[10:57] <after8> jenda> rerun it...... ./NVIDIAblah.run --uninstall
[10:57] <bob2> jenda: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:57] <bob2> jenda: please don't tell me you used the installer last time
[10:57] <aeon17x> bettong_BOFH: I don't know, it's your choice.
[10:57] <bluefrog-10> jenda, same for me, was talking about having the ubuntu drivers...
[10:58] <jenda> bob2: unfortuanately
[10:58] <bob2> you lose
[10:58] <grodius> bob2 i did just like you said is that wrong? ill post flood
[10:58] <bob2> now follow that wiki page
[10:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi after8
[10:58] <GamanaAm> my problem is that i set a password for root during the install. and now several admin tools dont work. when i follow the FAQ to disable the root account by "sudo passwd -l root", i can still login as root with the root pass i set. any ideas?
[10:58] <bob2> haha
[10:58] <after8> oh yeah..... forgot.
[10:58] <bob2> GamanaAm: did you fix sudo?
[10:58] <jenda> bob2... I followed the instructions in the fora somewhere. checking out the wiki now
[10:58] <bluefrog-10> jenda, install ubntu drivers should solve ur pb
[10:58] <bob2> jenda: bes to ignore the forums
[10:58] <GamanaAm> bob2, how can i "fix" sudo?
[10:59] <bob2> grodius: install build-essential and fakeroot
[10:59] <jenda> bob2: alrighty
[10:59] <godkilla> someone here got experience with cable modems on ethernet ?
[10:59] <godkilla> because mine wont work for any hd installs
[10:59] <bob2> godkilla: just ask your question
[10:59] <godkilla> well its just doesnt work.
[10:59] <bob2> GamanaAm: set it up so your user can "sudo ls" with no errors
[10:59] <grodius> bob2 k
[10:59] <godkilla> my question is what it could be
[10:59] <GamanaAm> bob2, the point is: how?
[10:59] <bob2> wtf
[11:00] <bob2> GamanaAm: first lesson: don't mess with the installer if you don't know what you're doing
[11:00] <bluefrog-10> jenda, apt-get-install nvidia-glx
[11:00] <bob2> rob     ALL=(ALL) ALL
[11:00] <bob2> GamanaAm: add that to the end of /etc/sudoers, subsituting rob with whatever
[11:00] <godkilla> so anyone got help?
[11:00] <budluva1> whats the best way to kill a fubar'd x session? sudo killall xorg?
[11:01] <grodius> bob2 shit real quick whats the command to config a certain http proxy and port
[11:01] <bob2> budluva1: fubar'd = ?
[11:01] <GamanaAm> bob2, its too late for the first lesson since i get along with debian and fedora core pretty well. the point where the root account has to be disabled is ubuntu specific. and thats why i am asking here.
[11:01] <budluva1> i cant ctrl-alt-f1 or f2 or any console
[11:01] <larsson_> How to restore grub after having installed windows? I an using breezy. I got a hoary install CD and a hoary live cd. If i can boot up my installed system, i could write grub from there.
[11:01] <bob2> GamanaAm: it doesn't have to be disabled at all
[11:01] <bob2> GamanaAm: you just need to setup sudo
[11:01] <grodius> bob2 cuz when i dont use synaptic(has proxy config in it) i go so slow, and I LIKE TERM
[11:01] <bob2> you should be using sudo on debian and fedora, anyway
[11:01] <bob2> grodius: export HTTP_PROXY=http://whatever/
[11:01] <GamanaAm> bob2, but all admin tools refuse to work with the active root account
[11:01] <cronik> hey guys is me again
[11:01] <bob2> larsson_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:02] <godkilla> hello?
[11:02] <grodius> bob2 is that http a link to proxy:port or to proxy autoconfig.pac
[11:02] <cronik> just came to thank u
[11:02] <signius> Good morning
[11:02] <cronik> i finally got it to work
[11:02] <godkilla> is there anyone that can help me?
[11:02] <bob2> GamanaAm: why do you think that is the problem rather than the fact sudo does not work?
[11:02] <bob2> godkilla: you haven't provided nearly enough information for someone to help
[11:02] <signius> When the boot up screen appears does that use frame buffers ?
[11:02] <godkilla> then tell me what info you nee bob2
[11:02] <bluefrog-10> GamanaAm, do u use the install created user or a user u created afterwards?
[11:02] <bob2> grodius: former
[11:02] <cronik> by the way,do u guys know of any good p2p program for linux that i could use
[11:02] <jenda> bluefrog-10: I have a GeForce 2 - should I apt-get nvidia-glx-legacy instead?
[11:02] <budluva1> whats the best way to kill a frozen x session? sudo killall xorg? i cant ctrl alt f1 or f2 to any consoles
[11:02] <aftertaf> dmesg is ranting about unknown keys, and says to use 'setkeycodes', what is wrong?
[11:02] <signius> My screen flickers like crazy on my laptop until i get to the proper login screen
[11:02] <budluva1> but i can ssh into my box
[11:02] <cronik> bob
[11:02] <cronik> i finally did it
[11:02] <bob2> ugh
[11:03] <godkilla> i got a cablemodem on ethernet and a static ip
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> jenda, yes
[11:03] <jenda> cronik: LimeWire, Azureus
[11:03] <cronik> i got the wireless card to work
[11:03] <godkilla> dhcp fails
[11:03] <bob2> godkilla: e.g. how it's setup, whether it works at all, if it worked in the past
[11:03] <godkilla> on all interfaces
[11:03] <cronik> were can i find them for linux?
[11:03] <godkilla> bob2 im currently online so it
[11:03] <godkilla> doe
[11:03] <godkilla> s
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> budluva, ctrl alt return
[11:03] <jenda> cronik: just a sec
[11:03] <godkilla> just not on hd install
[11:03] <cronik> ok
[11:03] <godkilla> im on a live cd currently
[11:03] <bob2> godkilla: "just not on hd install" is not specific enough
[11:04] <bob2> godkilla: when you run 'sudo dhclient ethN', do you get a lease?
[11:04] <signius> and if does can i turn off the frame buffer so i get a proper boot up with no flickering ?
[11:04] <godkilla> on none os on hard drive, neither windows nor any linux
[11:04] <godkilla> but it did work already
[11:04] <godkilla> on all os'
[11:04] <Sputn1k> how to change this icon?
[11:04] <Sputn1k> http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/5559/screenshot9pz.png
[11:05] <godkilla> i had this problem once already and have been given a few installs and 2 scripts to fix it plus an instruction
[11:05] <godkilla> but lost the instruction and thei nstaller
[11:05] <godkilla> :/
[11:05] <tris622ph> i am having a problem on compiling a gtkmm-2.4 program. the error says "error: `slot' undeclared in namespace `SigC'"
[11:05] <StrikeForce> can someone tell me what dbus files they have under /etc/defaults
[11:05] <StrikeForce> default
[11:06] <tris622ph> how do i compile a multifile program with header file>?
[11:06] <deeLer> can someone help me getting xdm running, screen goes black and returns to text console .... no errors
[11:06] <jenda> cronik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing
[11:06] <godkilla> bob2 godkilla: when you run 'sudo dhclient ethN', do you get a lease? <-- yes dhclient fails on all interfaces as said.
[11:06] <aftertaf> deeLer> type startx and tell us what the (ee) lines say
[11:07] <cronik> thanx
[11:07] <deeLer> aftertaf, startx works fine, i get my windowmanager and all .........
[11:07] <grodius> bob2 u are a god man.
[11:07] <grodius> bob2 i thank you
[11:08] <[devil-boy] > greetings people
[11:08] <[devil-boy] > i have a problem with a mount
[11:08] <jenda> cronik: no prob
[11:08] <pybe> is there much difference between ubuntu and debian when running a non gui machine
[11:09] <alsh> pybe: there is
[11:09] <[devil-boy] > it doesn't let me access files that are on a windows ntfs partition
[11:09] <aftertaf> pybe> runlevel by default...
[11:09] <aftertaf> [devil-boy] > read or write?
[11:09] <[devil-boy] > i think both
[11:09] <barongas>  Is there anything I should do after a dist-upgrade? Or is it all to go?
[11:09] <pybe> aftertaf: not if there both installed with out gui they both start in 2 dont they
[11:09] <aftertaf> [devil-boy] > you cant write to ntfs in linux. however you can read....
[11:10] <[devil-boy] > ot keeps saying that i do not have priveledge
[11:10] <aftertaf> pybe> dunno...
[11:10] <bluefrog-10> [devil-boy] , in fstab user,umask=0222 instead of defaults
[11:10] <[devil-boy] > but the root can read from it
[11:10] <[devil-boy] > ahhh
[11:10] <aftertaf> hehe
[11:10] <[devil-boy] > let get the file
[11:10] <barongas> I'm getting alot of perl locale settings warnings when upgrading to breezy...
[11:11] <modifiyd> hey i was on ealyer
[11:11] <modifiyd> i had a prob with grub
[11:11] <barongas> It also seems to swapping my xorg for a newer version, will I need to reconf it?
[11:11] <modifiyd> i fixed it mayself it wasent a prob with windows
[11:11] <aftertaf> how can i swap which NIC is eth0 and which is eth1 ? eth0 is an integrated NIC
[11:12] <modifiyd> it was as simple as installing ubuntu again
[11:12] <barongas> aftertaf, Why do you need to do that?
[11:12] <modifiyd> well thanks
[11:12] <[devil-boy] > /dev/sda5       /media/sda5     ntfs    nls=utf8.umask=0222	0	0
[11:12] <[devil-boy] > should i put
[11:12] <aftertaf> barongas> to test the NICs, to test why a crossed cable wont let me setup a LAN between 2 pcs.... to find out why.
[11:12] <[devil-boy] > /dev/sda5       /media/sda5     ntfs    user,umask=0222	0	0
[11:13] <bluefrog-10> [devil-boy] , if u want
[11:13] <[devil-boy] > ?? bluefrog-10
[11:13] <[devil-boy] > but will i be able to access it in the future
[11:13] <hyphenated> aftertaf: how long is the cable?
[11:13] <[devil-boy] > and will it be mounted on boot?
[11:13] <bluefrog-10> [devil-boy] , well if not working with nls yes swap it with user
[11:13] <aftertaf> hyphenated> seriously?
[11:13] <pybe> I have an old laptop I use for some basic apache and ssh on a non gui install would I benefit apt-get upgrading it to ubuntu breezy from debian sarge?
[11:13] <bluefrog-10> [devil-boy] , or just add user
[11:13] <hyphenated> aftertaf: if it's shorter than 2 metres, I would be surprised if it worked
[11:14] <aftertaf> hyphenated> really? hmmm. its about 2M actually.
[11:14] <marcin> hi all
[11:14] <barongas> aftertaf, ok... Do you really need to change the names for that? Isn't that doable if you just switch the settings on which is up and down?
[11:14] <bluefrog-10> [devil-boy] , then unmount the ntfs drive and sudo mount -a
[11:15] <aftertaf> barongas> true.... i can try eth1 on dhcp here, see if it works...
[11:15] <hyphenated> aftertaf: because a packet is about 2 meters long at 100mbit
[11:15] <marcin> short question is dapper installable - I would like to upgrade my repo but I'm little affraid that there could be a lot of broken packages...
[11:15] <rob_p> aftertaf:  In answer to your query, interface mapping can be set to your liking in /etc/iftab.
[11:15] <aftertaf> thx rob_p :)
[11:16] <barongas> hyphenated, is that true? That could explain some of my weird connection problems.. Good thing I don't have a gigabyte card, would need what? 20m? :)
[11:16] <rob_p> aftertaf:  You're welcome!
[11:16] <jenda> bluefrog-10? When I run  "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:16] <jenda> ", it throws an error. It tells me that the X configuration has been altered and it cannot continue.
[11:16] <[devil-boy] > it's working
[11:16] <jenda> should I paste the error?
[11:17] <[devil-boy] > cheers bluefrog-10
[11:17] <_D> jenda :you can edit the xorg.conf yourself
[11:17] <qchr> mplayer from multiverse work fine but mencoder i have lots of dropped frames
[11:17] <hyphenated> barongas: google for 'gigabit ethernet minimum cable length' or something :-)
[11:17] <[devil-boy] > hey peeps
[11:17] <jenda> _D: I know. But I'm not sure what to change. I s it just driver "nvidia" ?
[11:17] <_D> jenda :sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.cong and change the driver from "nv" to "nvidia"
[11:17] <budluva1> how
[11:17] <[devil-boy] > i have a pcmia wireless card
[11:18] <[devil-boy] > d-link DWL-g650+
[11:18] <_D> jenda :yeah
[11:18] <kyle_> hi all... can someone help me out wiht login probs im having
[11:18] <[devil-boy] > can't get it to work
[11:18] <jenda> _D: OK, (I prefer nano :))
[11:18] <bluefrog-10> jenda, the original config should be /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old or backup. put in place the original config and try again
[11:18] <[devil-boy] > it shows itself as active
[11:18] <pybe> whats the lowest spec machine anyone has usefully running linux on?
[11:18] <[devil-boy] > but it fails to get an ip from dhcp
[11:18] <thoreauputic> jenda: pico is a symlink to nano in ubuntu ;))
[11:19] <jenda> bluefrog-10: hehe - didn't know that. Never tried pico. alrighty. will be back...
[11:19] <taomaster> is there a easy way 2 install java in ubuntu?
[11:19] <jenda> taomaster: Search the Wiki
[11:19] <thoreauputic> !java
[11:19] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[11:19] <pybe> taomaster: 1.4 is in uni or multiverse iirc
[11:19] <thoreauputic> !javadeb
[11:19] <ubotu> it has been said that javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[11:19] <bluefrog-10> kyle, speak up
[11:20] <_D> ok perhaps someone could help me with my problem my lg lcd l1510s wont shutdown after the 1 minute ive set it to shutdown in system->pref->screensaver->advanced
[11:21] <kyle_> @bluefrog, yeh i have forgoten my pw to login, how i go about reseting it?
[11:21] <kyle_> had a quick look around, couldnt find much
[11:21] <bluefrog-10> kyle, reboot in recovery mode
[11:22] <kyle_> how is this done? (kinda new to ubuntu)
[11:22] <bluefrog-10> kyle, and change it:    passwd user
[11:22] <thoreauputic> kyle_: choose recovery mode from the boot menu
[11:22] <bluefrog-10> kyle, at reboot choose recovery
[11:23] <kyle_> ok, thanks mate. will go try
[11:23] <thoreauputic> kyle_: if yo uonly have ubuntu instaled you may need to hit <esc> to get the boot screen
[11:23] <barongas> If my videocard showed some tendencies of weird flickering in windows and now it freaks out almost every time it uses opengl(or maybe every time it renders 3d?) it reasonably should be the card that's broken in some way. Right?
[11:23] <barongas> Cause I can't find any people with my symptoms near any fglrx forums...
[11:23] <bluefrog-10> kyle, then when u have updted the password u will type     init 2
[11:24] <_D> barongas :or bad drivers... did you install the proper drivers in windows ?
[11:24] <jenda> Not good. When I changed the driver to nvidia, X fails to start
[11:24] <barongas> _D, Yeah, direct from atis website... They only make you choose operative system and I got that :)
[11:24] <larsson_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  <-- I am using that guide to recover grub. I am at the last step. When typing the last command "/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda" i get a error message saying: Could not find device for /boot: not found or not a valid block device. What am i doing wrong?
[11:25] <jenda> bluefrog-10: Any idea what could've gone wrong? (I changed the driver to nvidia and X failed to start. had to change it back)
[11:25] <thoreauputic> larsson_: /dev/hda is the first hard disk on the master - is that the right disk?
[11:25] <Xitium> what is a good dvd player for linux?
[11:25] <_D> jenda :whats the error ?
[11:25] <jenda> Xitium: I prefer xine-ui
[11:26] <thoreauputic> Xitium: vlc, xine-ui, totem-xine....
[11:26] <bluefrog-10> jenda, sry don't know then, u have to try to tweak ur xorg.conf
[11:26] <larsson_> thoreauputic, yes it should be. Windows is: /dev/hda1 and linux is /dev/hda6
[11:26] <thoreauputic> larsson_: hmm
[11:27] <jenda> _D: It won't say. It just doesn't do anything. Or maybe I didn't look properly. I'll try again and try noticing the error.
[11:27] <larsson_> thoreauputic, maybe you can guide me through the process in PM?
[11:27] <bluefrog-10> jenda, /va/log/Xorg.log
[11:28] <thoreauputic_> larsson_: I'm not really up on grub etc - I never had to do this :)
[11:28] <larsson_> Ok..
[11:28] <sn0n> is drake testable yet ?
[11:28] <sn0n> breezy is annoying the hell outta me, im bout to go back to hoary
[11:28] <[devil-boy] > hey
[11:28] <sn0n> at least there firefox didnt crash, and it wasnt slow. ;-
[11:29] <sn0n> ;)
[11:29] <apokryphos> sn0n: dapper shouldn't be used until the colonies are out. i.e. many months
[11:29] <[devil-boy] > how do i kill a non responding application?
[11:29] <sn0n> many months.. isnt it a 6 month release schedule
[11:29] <sn0n> lol
[11:29] <apokryphos> [devil-boy] : killall application
[11:29] <Madpilot> [devil-boy] : kill <name of app>
[11:29] <apokryphos> sn0n: yes
[11:29] <sn0n> that puts it on ' month ' ish
[11:29] <sn0n> lol
[11:29] <larsson_> thoreauputic, know anyone in here that can help me?
[11:29] <sn0n> 6 months is hardly many months.. thats a few months
[11:29] <thoreauputic_> [devil-boy] : or xkill, and zap it - but killall is more thorough ;)
[11:29] <apokryphos> Madpilot: nah, you'd need the PID for that command
[11:30] <jenda> OK, it says it can't load the kernel module - AFAIK, I have it installed
[11:30] <thoreauputic> larsson_: if someone can help, they will
[11:30] <bluefrog-10> jenda, did u reboot
[11:30] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: pkill <app> is useful :)
[11:30] <larsson_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  <-- I am using that guide to recover grub. I am at the last step. When typing the last command "/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda" i get a error message saying: Could not find device for /boot: not found or not a valid block device. What am i doing wrong?
[11:30] <bluefrog-10> jenda, and ... hang on
[11:30] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: many many ways to do it 8)
[11:31] <jenda> I did reboot after the kernel install, but nat after thi nvidia-glx install
[11:31] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: yes, Linux has many aggressive kill options ;-)
[11:31] <barongas> larsson_, If the command you used above failed, which is unlikely, you will need to configure GRUB manually (it isn't too hard) (from the wiki)
[11:32] <bluefrog-10> jenda, u need to reboot after glx install. do u have nvidia-kernel-common installed as well?
[11:32] <larsson_> barongas, Yes, but i wonder why it failed... I am probably doing something wrong.
[11:32] <jenda> bluefrog-10: I'll check
[11:32] <barongas> larsson_, Mounting the drive was no sweat right?
[11:32] <Madpilot> apokryphos: meh, you're right, sorry... it's late here...
[11:32] <jenda> bluefrog-10: Yes I do. So rebbot it is...
[11:33] <larsson_> barongas, no.
[11:33] <jenda> bluefrog-10: Should I first change xorg.conf to "nvidia"
[11:33] <bluefrog-10> jenda, yes try, u certainly could load them by hand but i don't know how to do it
[11:33] <larsson_> I have rebooted now. Gonna try again. Want to guide me?
[11:33] <hogfarmer> ubuntu lagged my terminal
[11:33] <bluefrog-10> jenda, have u run the nvidia thing enable?
[11:34] <aeon17x> Damn, how fast can Tux go in PlanetPenguin Racer? I just registered over 200 kph.
[11:34] <hogfarmer> planetpenguin is faggot shit
[11:34] <jenda> Yes, but it won't work. should I post the error?
[11:34] <barongas> larsson_, I can help you as good as I can but I'm not experienced enough to guide you.. Haven't been tweaking grub that much myself.
[11:34] <thoreauputic> hogfarmer: language
[11:34] <aeon17x> hogfarmer: maybe you're just awful at it.
[11:34] <hogfarmer> ubuntu is for newbies
[11:34] <jenda> bluefrog-10: Yes, but it won't work. should I post the error?
[11:34] <larsson_> barongas, i have rebooted. Gonna try again. It would be cool if you could guide me via PM (easier to talk there)
[11:35] <larsson_> barongas, i think you are good enough.
[11:35] <bluefrog-10> jenda, tell me what u have in /etc/X11/ talking about xorg.conf and similar
[11:35] <aeon17x> Excellent ownage there, thor.
[11:36] <jenda> bluefrog-10: the files? there's xorg.conf, xorg.conf_backup
[11:36] <kyle_> ok, so im in recovery mode, but im unsure what to type, you said somethign before like :    passwd user ?
[11:36] <bluefrog-10> jenda, join #glx
[11:37] <kyle_> can you explane that i little better?
[11:37] <bluefrog-10> kyle_, yes the name of ur user
[11:37] <barongas> larsson_, You still around?
[11:37] <kyle_> so i would put: "newPassword" kyle
[11:37] <kyle_> ?
[11:38] <mustard5> what you doing kyle?
[11:38] <larsson_> barongas, yep. I have rebooted the computer now. Can you pm me?
[11:38] <barongas> larsson_, Thought I did... I suck at irc :)
[11:38] <larsson_> Wait.
[11:38] <mustard5> what you doing kyle_  ? maybe I can pick up from where you are?
[11:38] <HorzA> is there a special trick to mount a 200 gig ntfs?
[11:38] <godkilla> how cna i find out the label of my networkcard?
[11:39] <godkilla> other than lookign at it?
[11:39] <kyle_> trying to change/reset my login password
[11:39] <mustard5> ah ok
[11:39] <larsson_> barongas, you mu register your nick.
[11:39] <barongas> Is there a way to prevent perl from shouting out it's annoying local settings warning
[11:39] <mustard5> kyle_, what's the user name?
[11:39] <morgs^^> is anyone familiar with kpackage ?
[11:39] <kyle_> or maybe even username, i might have forgoten that aswell.
[11:39] <godkilla> how cna i find out the label of my networkcard?
[11:39] <kyle_> im pritty sure the user name is just: kyle
[11:39] <larsson_> barongas, must
[11:40] <mustard5> kyle_, ok try sudo passwd kyle
[11:40] <godkilla> how can i find out the label of my networkcard?
[11:40] <mustard5> kyle_, you in root kyle_ ?
[11:41] <mustard5> kyle_, probably don't need the sudo part if you are logged in as root :)
[11:41] <mustard5> kyle_, just passwd kyle
[11:41] <mustard5> let me read the manual for passwd to be sure ;)
[11:41] <Xitium> I am having a very strange problem and I know its not a problem with ubuntu cuz it happens in windows too but I thought I might get your thoughts on this, my time is moving twice as fast as it should, 30seconds = 1minute, but in the bios time seems to be moving normaly
[11:42] <thoreauputic> mustard5: he doesn't need sudo in recovery mode :)
[11:42] <thoreauputic> or root
[11:42] <mustard5> thoreauputic, yeah my bad...I'm picking this up half way through..seems to have lost his helper
[11:42] <thoreauputic> kyle_: just passwd kyle should do it
[11:43] <kyle_> ok,, i will try that, just waiting for it to load recovery, thanks
[11:43] <mustard5> k
[11:45] <godkilla> why does nobody answer me ffs????
[11:45] <godkilla> is there a way to find out the label fo my network card?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> godkilla: your question isn't very clear?
[11:45] <ptepper> you mean the mac address?
[11:45] <godkilla> the maker
[11:45] <godkilla> manufacter
[11:45] <apokryphos> godkilla: language, please. If someone is willing/able to help, they will.
[11:45] <kyle_> ok. now im having the same problem as when i did when i installed. It asks for the password, but when i type nothing comes up. even if i type the same things it says password dont match ??
[11:45] <godkilla> prdocut id aso
[11:45] <thoreauputic> godkilla: lspci
[11:45] <mustard5> this is more a hardware question, but I put a couple of new 400 DDR ram sticks in today, but when I changed the BIOS settings I keep getting kernel panic.  If switch back to 333 all goes well, any ideas on what the issue might be?
[11:46] <godkilla> apokryphos, ive been asking 3 times and nobody answered
[11:46] <apokryphos> so what?
[11:46] <godkilla> thoreauputic, thanks
[11:46] <thoreauputic> godkilla: and please show some patience in future
[11:46] <iceman> Where can you find good theme's ... thos on KDE look, and Gnome Look are limited ... I have seen much better
[11:46] <godkilla> sorry, trying to get my internet running for over an day
[11:47] <mustard5> kyle_, the password is never visible when you type it in
[11:47] <apokryphos> iceman: kdelook seems pretty unlimited for good stuff :P
[11:47] <ptepper> hey - I just installed ubuntu on a friends laptop and the installation quit while installing the ubuntu-desktop. Now when I try to install various pacakages I'm getting dependency errors like "Errors were encountered while processing: ubuntu-desktop"
[11:47] <ptepper> anyone seen this kind of thing before?
[11:47] <iceman> I am familure with KDE ... Gnome ... Flux ... Enlightment Desktops .... What others are there ...
[11:48] <mustard5> kyle_, I would first make sure you are definitely typeing the same password in in..make it a two letter password as a test maybe
[11:48] <kyle_> its ok guys, i got it
[11:48] <radix> what has replaced the deprecated /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager stuff in the release of Gnome that's in Breezy?
[11:48] <mustard5> ok :)
[11:48] <kyle_> yeh... i had the wrong username...
[11:48] <pybe> iceman: icewm xfce
[11:48] <mustard5> ahhh!
[11:48] <mustard5> :D
[11:48] <kyle_> :- /
[11:48] <iceman> apokryphos I cant figure out how to install the Files on KDE-look
[11:48] <UdontKnow> was he versionflooding the channel?
[11:48] <morgs^^> has anyone here managed to get GTA3 running in cedega ?
[11:49] <mustard5> ptepper, sounds like sources are not enabled
[11:49] <UdontKnow> morgs^^: it works
[11:49] <apokryphos> iceman: what files?
[11:49] <iceman> what command to apt-get xfce
[11:49] <thoreauputic> iceman: http://xwinman.org for info on wm s
[11:49] <pybe> iceman: there is a good list of wm's here http://xwinman.org/
[11:49] <ptepper> mustard5: you mean the repositories?
[11:49] <mustard5> ptepper, if you could paste the errors in the pastebin it would be easier to diagnose
[11:49] <ptepper> how do I enable the sources?
[11:49] <thoreauputic> iceman: sudoa pt-get install xfce4
[11:49] <iceman> going there now
[11:49] <mustard5> !pastebin
[11:49] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:49] <ptepper> oh
[11:49] <thoreauputic> *apt-get
[11:49] <morgs^^> UdontKnow, for the moment .... i can install but not get the game going
[11:49] <mustard5> read message from ubotu above ptepper
[11:50] <ptepper> gotcha
[11:50] <kyle_> got back to normal login screen, and password incorrect? ;-/ I Will try again with somethign diffrent.
[11:50] <mustard5> ptepper, then use the pastebin to show me your error messages....don't paste in main channel ;)
[11:50] <morgs^^> UdontKnow, is it just about telling it the winows is nt or xp as opposed to 98 ?
[11:50] <ptepper> yea, I'll have to log in again, brb
[11:50] <mustard5> ptepper, I am thinking repositories aren't enabled yes
[11:51] <UdontKnow> morgs^^: I dont remember... check the transgaming forum
[11:51] <morgs^^> im new to scripts
[11:51] <morgs^^> but thanks
[11:51] <wayde> hey guys
[11:51] <UdontKnow> ?
[11:51] <UdontKnow> scripts?
[11:52] <barongas> Will updating to breezy affect any of my config files?
[11:52] <UdontKnow> I told you to check the website... theres a game database there
[11:52] <UdontKnow> morgs^^: ;)
[11:52] <mustard5> barongas, backup to be sure...something may go wrong
[11:52] <thoreauputic> kyle_: to check username, type  ls /home and see what your home dir is called :)
[11:52] <UdontKnow> morgs^^: inside the private area, that is
[11:52] <mustard5> store you entire home folder in a tar.gz
[11:52] <barongas> mustard5, too late now.. I could use the exercise to reconf em :)
[11:52] <iceman> apokryphos i have several of what kde-look calls theme,s they unpack to a png files and such ,,,, seems KDE for Ubuntu wants ksrvs files ?
[11:52] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: I prefer whoami :P
[11:52] <wayde> anybody know how to get the sound working for enemy territory when i boot?
[11:52] <mustard5> barongas, ok :)
[11:53] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: yes but in recovery mode it will say "root"
[11:53] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:53] <mustard5> barongas, if your doing dist-upgrade is SHOULD be ok :D
[11:53] <apokryphos> iceman: I never use the collective theme thing; always just make my own with different styles, icons etc
[11:53] <morgs^^> UdontKnow, haha like i said im new   ;p
[11:53] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: ah, indeed.
[11:53] <barongas> mustard5, I'll find out in a few minutes :)
[11:53] <mustard5> barongas, did you reinstall ubuntu-desktop metapackage beforehand?
[11:53] <mustard5> barongas, if it was uninstalled thati
[11:54] <iceman> apokryphos has to be a means to import those ?
[11:54] <signius> barongas unless you got a real good reason to upgrade i would check out some of the prgrams and stuff you use first as i have had loads of hassle with stuff since upgrading and would advice IMHO to hold fire upgrading just for the sake of upgrading isnt always a wise move
[11:54] <mustard5> signius, he sounds pretty comitted already
[11:54] <mustard5> :)
[11:54] <mustard5> its happening now
[11:55] <apokryphos> iceman: of course; check the howtos or something
[11:55] <signius> Well i gave my 2 pennies worth of adive all the same so he lost his right to come to me crying if it goes tits up now :-p
[11:55] <iceman> can you apt-get fvwm ?
[11:55] <thoreauputic> iceman: sure
[11:55] <ptepper> ok, sorry mustard5, i was on a different machine than the problem laptop
[11:55] <qchr> ubuntu works better then windows for me
[11:55] <thoreauputic> iceman: apt-cache search fvwm
[11:55] <mustard5> k
[11:56] <Stanley> Hi, how do i access samba shares via XP?
[11:56] <mustard5> I'll give you a link from ubotu ptepper
[11:56] <thoreauputic> !info fvwm
[11:56] <ubotu> fvwm: (F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.5), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:2.5.14-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2914 kB, Installed size: 6444 kB
[11:56] <mustard5> ubotu: tell ptepper about repositories
[11:56] <iceman> fvwm looks sweet ...
[11:56] <jenda> qchr: Duh. :)
[11:56] <thoreauputic> iceman: yeah, once you do all the configuration it needs :)
[11:56] <mustard5> ptepper, ok ubotu should have sent you the links to the guides
[11:57] <signius> Yeah some of the window managers other than kde/gnome are real nice once you get used to them
[11:57] <iceman> only way i am going to get used to LIux is Beat myself silly trying this stuff
[11:57] <signius> you realise how much bloat and stuff you dont need is in kde and gnome
[11:57] <signius> Athough i do think KDE is much much more guilty of this
[11:57] <ptepper> mustard5, k thanks, I'm gonna try that
[11:57] <mustard5> ptepper, I suppose I should see the errors in the pastebin first hehe...I'm getting ahead of mysef
[11:57] <gagrus> jwhhd
[11:57] <aeon17x> !fluxbox
[11:57] <ubotu> I heard fluxbox is forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net, or the new blackbox, with antialias, better menu, etc.
[11:57] <mustard5> give it go, ptepper I reckon thats the problem ;)
[11:58] <signius> and while KDE looks prettier it just has too many ways of doing stuff and doesnt seemt o have any real goals or solid direction IMHO
[11:58] <barongas> So should I reboot my machine/x-windows or something when my dist-upgrade is finished?
[11:59] <ptepper> mustard5 - I think ubuntu-desktop isn't installed correctly, so I'm going to update the sources and try installing it again...
[11:59] <jenda> Will dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg regenerate xorg.conf
[11:59] <jenda> ?
[11:59] <mustard5> that will be the acid test barongas
[11:59] <aeon17x> barongas: I think it'll reboot itself automatically.
[11:59] <signius> gnome is much more business like and is working toward solid reliable and more simplistic in how things are achieved if soemthing can be done 1 way and that way works and is efficient why do you need to re-invent the wheel another 20 times just because you can and in the prcess introduce a whole raft of other ways for things to break and get messed up ?
[11:59] <mustard5> ptepper, k
[11:59] <barongas> aight...
[12:00] <aeon17x> signius: KDE looks too much like the Windows interface to me.
[12:00] <jenda> Poeple: Will dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg regenerate xorg.conf?
[12:00] <signius> But maybe i preaching to the already converted
[12:01] <mustard5> jenda I think the method of regenarating xorg.conf is in the first few lines of xorg.conf itself
[12:01] <mustard5> jenda, try cd'ing to the directory and type cat xorg.conf and read the first few lines
[12:01] <aeon17x> !uptime
[12:01] <jenda> mustard5: right
[12:01] <signius> Actually in all fairness the layout of windows and the UI isnt bad at all and because of the money MS have available to them they can invest heavly in research into this area Apple is in the same position and apple do do some really intuitive and nice GUIs
[12:01] <mustard5> jenda, I think its in /etc/X11/something
[12:01] <mustard5> :D
[12:02] <signius> It is a very very difficult thing to achive between getting simplistic but not taking away more advanced users needs also
[12:02] <mustard5> jenda, I know that command you put up allows you to reconfigure, but that might be different from resetting it to default
[12:03] <aeon17x> signius: placing the Shut Down button within the Start menu = bad idea. But that's about it.
[12:03] <jenda> mustard5: found it
[12:03] <barongas> signius, Well the opensource community also have quite a bunch of inituitive projects going down. Check out www.symphonyos.com for example
[12:03] <mustard5> is it a different command?
[12:03] <signius> Eric Raymend wrote a good paper about this and how bad OS developers are at meeting the needs of every day users and designing a system before thinking of a UI
[12:03] <mustard5> jenda  is it a different command listed in the xorg.conf?
[12:04] <barongas> signius, That goes for almost all software developers. People who don't think who they are making the programs for
[12:05] <jenda> mustard5: yes. "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[12:05] <signius> yes exactly before a prgrammer just stats coding he should sit down with a pen and paper and think about what it is the users are going to be doing and how they will want to use it
[12:05] <mustard5> jenda ah wow..I wonder what -phigh is :)
[12:05] <signius> however this is seldom the case
[12:05] <signius> or she
[12:05] <barongas> And often work with testers even before he/she writes a single line of code.
[12:05] <WiLloW> hi all
[12:05] <HorzA> what burning program is there to ubuntu 5.10?
[12:05] <mustard5> hey WiLloW
[12:06] <jenda> mustard5: I just found out that it will only enable update again
[12:06] <qchr> do u know what to do totem play mp3?
[12:06] <mustard5> jenda, what does that mean?
[12:06] <signius> barongas that is exactly what i was referring to with MS and Apple having the resources to do this available to them
[12:06] <ptepper> mustard5 - the repositories were there, tried to install ubuntu-desktop got an error
[12:06] <ptepper> see pastebin
[12:06] <mustard5> ptepper, paste the URL to pastebin in here
[12:06] <qchr> horza gnome backer and k3b but i dont try them yet
[12:06] <mustard5> plz :)
[12:07] <ptepper> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3725
[12:07] <jenda> mustard5: the autoupdate switches off if you edit the file. That switches htem back on. It doesn't default the file back
[12:07] <barongas> signius, Indeed... there really should be somewhere for designers/testers/coders to meet...
[12:07] <signius> I do think UBUNTU is addressing this issue though and is working towards solving alot of these things
[12:07] <bimberi> HorzA: nautilus, with gnomebaker, gnomebaker, k3b installable
[12:07] <mustard5> jenda, is that good for you?
[12:07] <HorzA> il try gnome backer qchr
[12:07] <coz> hello all bonjourno tutti
[12:07] <barongas> Finally my dist-upgrade is complete... Should I just reboot x or the entire computer?
[12:07] <mustard5> jenda, its all confusing to me :D
[12:07] <WiLloW> i love ubuntu ... but it is givin me a headache ... could someone help me please?
[12:07] <jenda> mustard5: Unfoncho, nope
[12:07] <coz> anyone know about wacom tblets on ubuntu
[12:07] <qchr> horza it looks very nice
[12:08] <signius> I just worry they are going to make it too simplistic i noticed a big difference between hoary and breezy and how much more stuff has been hidden way in breezy
[12:08] <mustard5> ptepper, I have NEVER seen that error before
[12:08] <barongas> WiLloW, what's up?
[12:08] <coz> what is the problme willow
[12:08] <mustard5> ptepper, you got a tough problem
[12:08] <WiLloW> kiak, /dev/dsp and alsa ...
[12:08] <qchr> /dev/audio
[12:08] <WiLloW> and spdif out
[12:08] <coz> what up with alsa?
[12:08] <ptepper> mustard5, yea, the hard drive made a repetitive sound, I have a feeling there might be bad block on the disk
[12:08] <signius> But i do tend to use Linux more for technical things i need to do and am perhaps short sighted in this area because of my own uses and needs
[12:09] <barongas> Hiding things can be a good way to ensure stability and consistency for beginner users. I believe that it should be easy for experienced users to change settings though
[12:09] <qchr> WiLloW, dont u have sound?
[12:09] <coz> a little more info
[12:09] <WiLloW> kiax can't read from /dev/dsp
[12:09] <signius> thats what i said about it being very hard to get the balance correct
[12:09] <ptepper> mustard5. I'm not sure how to check for bad blocks though
[12:09] <barongas> brb, rebooting
[12:09] <WiLloW> yes i've got sound
[12:09] <WiLloW> but not in kiax
[12:09] <ptepper> mustard5, I think it's e2fsck - not surehow to make a boot disk to do that though
[12:10] <mustard5> ptepper, you would need to run fsck I think, but you can't run it on a mounted drive
[12:10] <pepsi> mount it readonly
[12:10] <ptepper> mustard5, right
[12:10] <mustard5> you can use the live CD I think ptepper
[12:10] <pepsi> go into single user mode
[12:10] <WiLloW> cant record with sox too, /dev/dsp: no such device
[12:10] <mustard5> ptepper, ask someone in here maybe
[12:10] <ptepper> LiveCD - i can try that
[12:10] <coz> did you check to see if alsa mixer is muted for that I am not real up on this
[12:10] <signius> On a much deeper techinical level i think the LSB can only be a good thing for Linux. when all the distros and doing things how ever the hell they want and feel like its not constructive over all and is a waste of recourse i feel
[12:11] <qchr> WiLloW, /sbin/modprobe snd-mixer-oss, /sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss meybe it helps
[12:11] <ptepper> anyone know how to make a boot disk for running e2fsck?
[12:11] <qchr> if not then use /dev/audio
[12:11] <ptepper> pepsi - were you talking to me?
[12:11] <HorzA> does gnomebaker burn .img files?
[12:11] <envel> Hello! How to make LyX 1.3.6 to show formulas not as "gamma + delta" in edit window, but with correct mathematical symbols and greek letters? LyX 1.3.4 did it.
[12:11] <AMDXP> do they have a mp3 tag editor
[12:11] <mustard5> ptepper, ask if it can be done via LIVE CD
[12:11] <thoreauputic> ptepper: why not use the live CD ?
[12:11] <ptepper> oh
[12:11] <envel> Maybe i need some extra fonts???
[12:11] <coz> yes just burned img file withgnome twominutes ago
[12:11] <ptepper> thoerauputic - so it can be done from the Live CD?
[12:11] <pepsi> ?
[12:12] <pepsi> why bother?
[12:12] <signius> The underlying code needs to be standardised to some extent that all the distros share and use regardless of what distro it is
[12:12] <defcon8> is it possible to open a shell in one of the divisions of mc?
[12:12] <thoreauputic> ptepper: sure - it's a standard linux command
[12:12] <signius> this is where the BSDs tread all over Linux and are much more stable and rock solid because of this approuch
[12:12] <ptepper> thoreauputic - right, ok, I'm off to check for bad blocks.
[12:13] <WiLloW> all stuff from alsa is loaded and running ... i can hear TV from spdif ... but cant record with sox o capture audio from kiax
[12:13] <mustard5> thanks thoreauputic , I had no idea, never done it :D
[12:13] <iceman> there a way to put a toolbar in xfce ?
[12:13] <qchr> WiLloW, if how u record from tv?
[12:13] <thoreauputic> iceman: toolbar?
[12:13] <qchr> WiLloW, mencoder?
[12:13] <WiLloW> with arecord
[12:13] <iceman> Menubar ?
[12:14] <WiLloW> sorry ...
[12:14] <thoreauputic> iceman: you mean like mac OS-X ?
[12:14] <WiLloW> arecord to record from radio
[12:14] <WiLloW> can't do it with sox and gnomeradio
[12:14] <iceman> Something like that ? a blank screen kinda sucks
[12:14] <thoreauputic> iceman: did you install xfce or xfce4 ?
[12:15] <Danny|> how can i change how many lines the scrool thingy on my mouse scrools at a time? the default setting is pretty low
[12:15] <qchr> WiLloW, i record
[12:15] <iceman> xfce4
[12:15] <qchr> WiLloW, i need unmute capture
[12:15] <slibs> can you guys give me direct connect client names?
[12:15] <thoreauputic> iceman: you can also install xubuntu-desktop in breezy - that gives you the dock and all the goodies
[12:16] <iceman> already have it ... just learning to configure it all
[12:16] <iceman> brb
[12:16] <thoreauputic> iceman: you shouldn't have a blank screen with xfce4 - you should have a dock and a bar at the top for minimised apps etc
[12:17] <morgs^^> has anyone looked at linspire?   complete with all the cedegas etc ?
[12:17] <jenda> nalioth_zZz: I meight need your holp with the 686 kernel
[12:17] <duce74> pl
[12:17] <mustard5> hehe..bad time to ask jenda
[12:17] <mustard5> :D
[12:17] <slibs> anyone? name some dc clients
[12:17] <nalioth_zZz> jenda: is it life or death?
[12:18] <thoreauputic> morgs^^: last time I looked at linspire I ran away fast...
[12:18] <nalioth_zZz> slibs: dcgui is it
[12:18] <jenda> nalioth_zZz: nope
[12:18] <nalioth_zZz> jenda: can we do it in a few hours?
[12:18] <jenda> nalioth_zZz: Sure
[12:18] <defcon8> slibs, dcgui and stuff: apt-cache search direct connect
[12:18] <defcon8> apt-cache search dc
[12:18] <thoreauputic> morgs^^: I hope it has improved (e.g. it had no man pages last time I looked
[12:18] <nalioth_zZz> jenda: dont be afraid to ask mustard5 or thoreauputic they are smarter than i am
[12:18] <jenda> mustard5: It seems like I missed something...?
[12:18] <morgs^^> liking ubunti better ?
[12:18] <mustard5> nalioth_zZz, hahaha
[12:18] <WiLloW> yes, it's unmuted. All in my system is running except /dev/dsp ... if i do "cat /dev/dsp" this is the response: "no such device". Maybe snd_pcm_oss module options are wrong: dsp_map=4 adsp_map=4. If i comment this line, sox can record from /dev/dsp but can't hear tv or radio from spdif
[12:18] <nalioth_zZz> jenda: and there are other people in here hiding their lights under bushels
[12:18] <slibs> thanks
[12:18] <thoreauputic> nalioth_zZz: nice try :)
[12:19] <nalioth_zZz> jenda: see ya later
[12:19] <nalioth_zZz> night all
[12:19] <slibs> defcon8: synaptic didn't find anything when i searched like that
[12:19] <jenda> Alrighty... the thing is that X can't load the kernel module
[12:19] <morgs^^> just read linspire five-0 has cedega and point2play native
[12:19] <jenda> nalioth_zZz: I see. Goo dmight
[12:19] <radix> anyone know how to specify an alternate gnome-compatible window manager like sawfish? In ubuntu 5.04 I edited a gconf key, but in breezy that key is deprecated
[12:19] <jenda> nalioth_zZz: *Good night
[12:19] <mustafu> my comp randomly restarts whether in WinXP or Ubuntu....also freezes when it does stay booted for a while...what could be the issue?
[12:19] <jenda> mustafu: hardware problem
[12:20] <nalioth_zZz> mustard5: run the memtest for 24 hours (from your grub menu)
[12:20] <thoreauputic> morgs^^: well, try it and see - this is kind of more a subject for #ubuntu-offtopic though
[12:20] <derchilligephil> hi guys
[12:20] <derchilligephil> ive got a little problem
[12:20] <mustard5> nalioth_zZz, roger
[12:20] <Danny|> what the hell..? The filename "danny.cfg" indicates that this file is of type "cfg document". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "plain text document". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.
[12:20] <derchilligephil> Unable to copy XAuthorizaion file
[12:20] <Stanley> How do i restart samba in Kubuntu?
[12:20] <derchilligephil> what can i do ?
[12:20] <nalioth_zZz> mustafu: run the memtest for 24 hours (from your grub menu)
[12:20] <morgs^^> thoreauputic cheers ... appreciate your input
[12:20] <thoreauputic> Danny|: yeah I hate that message
[12:20] <mustafu> nalioth: k, thanks
[12:20] <nalioth_zZz> mustafu: not you, your almost-twin
[12:21] <nalioth_zZz> mustafu: it's either bad memory or heat
[12:21] <thoreauputic> Danny|: I think it needs rewriting at the least
[12:21] <Danny|> thoreauputic, i was opening that file just fine earlier today without the message.. is there a way to turn it off?
[12:21] <jenda> thoreauputic, mustard5: Any idea?
[12:21] <Danny|> hmm k
[12:21] <nalioth_zZz> mustafu: bad memory is survivable, but heat kills
[12:21] <thoreauputic> Danny|: if you find out please tell me
[12:21] <mustard5> jenda, actually no..I'm skimped for ideas
[12:21] <thoreauputic> Danny|: it reminds me so much of windoze...
[12:21] <jenda> thoreauputic, mustard5: X won't load the kernel module after I installed 686 kernel.
[12:21] <jenda> mustard5: great... :)
[12:22] <mustafu> nalioth_zZz:k, thanks for all of the insight ;)
[12:22] <Danny|> thoreauputic, lol, well all i did was upload the file to my ftp via nautilus.. it didn't show the message before i did that :/
[12:22] <derchilligephil> unable to copy user's XAuthorization file
[12:22] <derchilligephil> what can i do
[12:22] <mustard5> jenda, I'll dwell on it for a while....
[12:22] <mustard5> best I can do :)
[12:22] <thoreauputic> Danny|: one of the reasons I mostly run fluxbox and rox filer :)
[12:22] <jenda> mustard5: even better. Thanks
[12:23] <Stanley> How do i restart samba in Kubuntu?
[12:23] <mustard5> jenda, something might bubble up from the subconcious ;)
[12:23] <jenda> mustard5: Right...
[12:23] <thoreauputic> Danny|: although I'm in gnome atm - easier to answer questions about the UI this way
[12:23] <thoreauputic> Stanley:  sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[12:24] <jenda> Is it better to have a precompiled kernel module, or to let he NIVIDIA installer do the job?
[12:24] <Danny|> thoreauputic, hehe.. well it's throwing me this message all the time now with all my cfg's :( it didn't do it 10 mins ago... :|
[12:24] <mustard5> jenda, have you pastebin'ed any error messages I can see?
[12:24] <Danny|> anyone has any idea how to turn it off
[12:24] <Danny|> i work with a lot of cfg's, this is going to be a pain :/
[12:24] <thoreauputic> Stanley: in konsole if that's your preference in terminals :)
[12:24] <jenda> Nope. The error message was: Cannot load kernel module...
[12:25] <mustard5> jenda, thats pretty succinct error message :)
[12:25] <dmlinux> anyone know about this error with amaroK ? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3727
[12:25] <thoreauputic> Danny|: install rox filer ;)
[12:25] <jenda> mustard5: Yes. We'll agree on that.
[12:25] <thoreauputic> Danny|: nautilus has issues IMO
[12:25] <Danny|> nah i like nautilus
[12:25] <Danny|> it's working good enough for me
[12:25] <thoreauputic> Danny|: no accounting for tastes ;-)
[12:26] <Danny|> ;P
[12:26] <thoreauputic> yeah nautilus is OK - but it's nautilus that's giving you those messages
[12:26] <WiLloW> anyway ... thanks, guys. Long live Ubuntu ... ;)
[12:26] <jenda> WiLloW: Long live...
[12:27] <qchr> mplayer-586 and mencoder-586 from multiverse working vary well :)
[12:27] <thoreauputic> qchr: glad to hear you sorted it out :)
[12:27] <pepsi> qchr, vary or very? :)
[12:28] <thoreauputic> pepsi: variable spelling ?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[12:28] <mustard5> I gotta reboot, my tv card hasn't been recognised..can't work without my tV to watch :)
[12:28] <pepsi> well if there was no smiley, he might have meany varyingly well
[12:29] <thoreauputic> pepsi: I followed the gist ;)
[12:29] <pepsi> confusing :)
[12:29] <qchr> vary wall :)
[12:29] <barongas> For some reason upgrading to breezy destroyed my opera installation... nevermind
[12:30] <thoreauputic> now I'm vary vary verry confused
[12:30] <pepsi> hah
[12:30] <avc> any idea why a 100 Mbps network card is running slower than a 10 Mbps card on the same laptop?
[12:30] <WildZeck> avc wrond drv?
[12:30] <aeon17x> avc: you mean in relation to the Internet?
[12:30] <radix> aha. export WINDOW_MANAGER=sawfish in .gnomerc.
[12:30] <avc> in relation to my LAN
[12:31] <avc> downloading stuff off a windows machine
[12:31] <barongas> avc: What card does the windows machine have?
[12:31] <barongas> avc: And are there any bottlenecks like an old 10mbps hub or something?
[12:32] <avc> the windows is an i810 chipset ethernet
[12:32] <heatxsink> hello all
[12:32] <heatxsink> has anyone here setup a saa7134 tvcard with tvtime?
[12:32] <heatxsink> i'm having some really messed up problems
[12:32] <avc> barongas, the 10mbps card is running 3 times faster than the 100!
[12:32] <avc> same laptop, same network
[12:32] <avc> and in windows, the 100 card runs full speed
[12:32] <avc> driver is xircom_tulip_cb
[12:33] <avc> any known problems with that one?
[12:34] <thoreauputic> avc: I seem to recall mii-tool can tell you something about how your cards are running - been a whila since I used it
[12:34] <thoreauputic> hmm there's a thing called mii-diag (looks like "diagnosis" ?
[12:35] <avc> i see it installed...
[12:35] <kyle_> hey, im back.. i pritty much got it figured out. there was two diffrent user names, dont knwo how that happend? but anyways, is there a way to change the passwd in ubuntu?
[12:36] <thoreauputic> avc: yeah, it fgives you info - and the man pages are there ( for instance mmi-diag has a -v for verbose)
[12:36] <avc> thanks i'll check it out
[12:36] <thoreauputic> *mii-diag
[12:36] <jenda> Still no idea? :)
[12:37] <avc> kyle, are you talking about the passwd command?
[12:37] <bill> morning all
[12:37] <avc> hi bill
[12:37] <intelikey>  /  has been mounted 49,710 days without being checked, check forced.  <---- lol is that a record or a bug ?
[12:37] <jenda> morning
[12:37] <bill> Question...with Ubuntu, and XFCE 4 how do I add something to start up on login automaticly?
[12:37] <avc> intelikey, probably a clock issue hehe
[12:37] <derchilligephil> hey guy
[12:37] <derchilligephil> s
[12:37] <derchilligephil> need really help
[12:37] <thoreauputic> kyle_: it's just the command passwd <username>
[12:37] <derchilligephil> got a real prob i think ...
[12:38] <bill> hey derchi
[12:38] <derchilligephil> hi
[12:38] <bill> whats your prob?
[12:38] <intelikey> avc ont 136 years worth of clock issue   lol
[12:38] <thoreauputic> derchilligephil: well, ask a question then
[12:38] <derchilligephil> when i want to login hes telling me something about cant load users xauthorization file
[12:38] <intelikey> besides the clock is right avc
[12:38] <derchilligephil> gdm cant load because of no read/write acces in home dir
[12:39] <derchilligephil> but i can read and write
[12:39] <avc> intelikey, perhaps when you installed linux, it was wrong
[12:39] <avc> and the time has been updated since
[12:39] <thoreauputic> derchilligephil:  your ~/.Xuthority file ahs probably become owned by root
[12:39] <avc> via ntpdate or something
[12:39] <bill> have you tried with say kdm or another WM?
[12:39] <thoreauputic> *.Xauthority
[12:39] <derchilligephil> no its own by the user
[12:39] <intelikey> avc if i rm /lost+found and then reboot i get that and then it reboots after making lost+found  then same error next boot.
[12:40] <thoreauputic> derchilligephil: and .ICEauthority ?
[12:40] <intelikey> avc it is nothing to do with the clock.
[12:40] <sorush20> guys why is my arial font like this.. ?
[12:40] <derchilligephil> owned by user and group is root
[12:40] <avc> bill, check the /etc/X11 dir for startup scripts
[12:40] <sorush20>    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	   asdf
[12:40] <thoreauputic> sorush20: like what ?
[12:40] <sorush20> my arial font is just a bunch of beetles..
[12:41] <derchilligephil> everything in home directory is owned by the user
[12:41] <derchilligephil> brb will check out the error message exactlx
[12:41] <thoreauputic> derchilligephil: -rw-------  1 peter peter 1129 2005-10-28 20:09 .ICEauthority
[12:41] <thoreauputic> derchilligephil: should be owned by the user
[12:42] <thoreauputic> and group should be user too
[12:42] <derchilligephil> drnec
[12:42] <thoreauputic> ? drnec ?
[12:42] <derchilligephil> cant be read in $HOME
[12:42] <MasterPUA> how can I get a cloak?
[12:42] <thoreauputic> wtf is that ? *laugh*
[12:43] <jenda> MasterPUA: Go to the nearest department store and buy one?
[12:43] <derchilligephil> drnrc
[12:43] <derchilligephil> is it called
[12:43] <Seveas> MasterPUA, www.freenode.net/faq.shtml
[12:43] <derchilligephil> there is no file like this
[12:44] <DonVincenzo> what are the best free alternatives to realmedia for streaming ?
[12:44] <Seveas> ogg
[12:44] <Seveas> flumotion streamer
[12:44] <bimberi> MasterPUA: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[12:44] <derchilligephil> he talking about, that the rights of this file are not correct. so it will be ignored
[12:44] <derchilligephil> and then it goes further
[12:44] <derchilligephil> after that cames an error message, GDM cant write into the authorization file
[12:44] <derchilligephil> and a very long text :P
[12:45] <Seveas> derchilligephil, right
[12:45] <Seveas> derchilligephil, go to a console with <ctrl><alt><f1> (<alt><f7> brings you back)
[12:45] <derchilligephil> any ideas, im new to this :)
[12:45] <Seveas> then do these commands after logging in there:
[12:45] <kyle_> ok. i will check it out. thanks for all your help guys ! :-D
[12:45] <Seveas> rm ~/.ICEauthority
[12:45] <Seveas> rm ~/.Xauthority
[12:46] <Seveas> chmod 644 ~/.dmrc
[12:46] <Seveas> chmod og-w ~
[12:46] <Seveas> rm -rf /tmp/*
[12:46] <Seveas> then logout there and login in the gui
[12:46] <avc> derchilligephil, when that happened to me, i renamed my home dir, created a new home dir, and let "default gnome session" build a new setup for me
[12:46] <derchilligephil> k will check it out
[12:46] <derchilligephil> but i wont rm my tmp :)
[12:46] <avc> then put my old files back in
[12:46] <derchilligephil> there are many important files
[12:47] <derchilligephil> not important
[12:47] <Seveas> derchilligephil, ok, then clean out everything from /tmp that is not important to you
[12:47] <derchilligephil> k
[12:47] <Seveas> things like /tmp/gconfd-*
[12:47] <Seveas> or /tmp/orbit-*
[12:47] <GNULinuxer> Seveas: what is the ubuntu channel cloak policy?
[12:48] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, cloaks are allowed, only members can get ubuntu/member/$nickname cloaks
[12:48] <jenda> mustard5: I probably found it. With bluefrog-10's help.
[12:48] <GNULinuxer> Seveas: aah, i see
[12:48] <avc> can i disable gdm? i want to be able to get to the console when i quit my display manager
[12:48] <iceman> Help... i'm trying to open my "HOME" folder, but get this error ... help...he Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[12:48] <iceman> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.
[12:48] <avc> but i dont know how to start my manager. (ion2)
[12:48] <derchilligephil> thx for your help man, just restarting
[12:49] <thoreauputic> avc: there are several ways - you can do  echo "false" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[12:49] <derchilligephil> what right sould /tmp have?
[12:49] <derchilligephil> rights
[12:49] <Seveas> drwxrxwrxw
[12:49] <thoreauputic> avc: or just disable the start up for gdm in /etc/init.d
[12:49] <Seveas> plus the sticky but should be set
[12:50] <barongas> Can mount handle .img/cue/ccd files?
[12:50] <avc> i guess i dont fully understand how X and ion interact
[12:50] <MasterPUA> angina
[12:50] <iceman> Weird error ... and cannot stop the application
[12:50] <avc> i dont even know how to run ion without gdm
[12:51] <Seveas> barongas, no
[12:51] <avc> any tutorials on X in debian or ubuntu?
[12:51] <Seveas> barongas, maybe bchunk can convert them for you
[12:51] <thoreauputic> avc: I assume the man page would tell you
[12:51] <thoreauputic> avc: I don't think it's an X issue as such, is it ?
[12:51] <aeon17x> avc: look at the help files.
[12:52] <iceman> wow Killall nautilus does not stop this .. help someone
[12:52] <WildZeck> killall nautilus
[12:52] <selinium> iceman, sudo pkill nautilus
[12:53] <Seveas> killall -9 nautilus (kills your desktop too, so you might as well kill -9 -1)
[12:53] <selinium> Hi thoreauputic , Seveas :)
[12:53] <iceman> selinium nope... started right back up ...
[12:53] <thoreauputic> hi selinium :)
[12:53] <selinium> :)
[12:53] <iceman> whats the command to bring up all running apps
[12:53] <Seveas> top
[12:53] <MasterPUA> Hi guys!  I think I have mild angina - can anybody talk to me about this?
[12:53] <Seveas> or ps aux
[12:53] <Seveas> MasterPUA, not in here
[12:54] <thoreauputic> MasterPUA: #heart perhaps ?
[12:54] <kbrooks> MasterPUA: ask your doctor
[12:54] <iceman> tried to open my home folder and nautilus will crash, but will not let me kill the process ..
[12:54] <avc> why are you guys here so helpful? it's refreshing after having toured other linux channels :)
[12:55] <kbrooks> avc: :)
[12:55] <thoreauputic> avc: we're just suckers I guess ;-)
[12:55] <avc> haha
[12:55] <MasterPUA> 50kg?
[12:55] <thoreauputic> just to redress the balance *g*
[12:55] <MasterPUA> 5kg?
[12:55] <iceman> ouch .. big manual .... l)
[12:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> MasterPUA: you havent seen a UNIX manual ;)
[12:56] <thoreauputic> MasterPUA: no, this is the collected works of 35 years ;)
[12:56] <MasterPUA> unix manuals are usually out of date
[12:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> MasterPUA: yeh, i have one for systemV
[12:56] <deeLer> can someone tell me how to keep my consoles F1 to F6 when i startx ? When X starts i can't get back to the text consoles
[12:56] <iceman> how to kill this app...
[12:56] <os2mac> can someone tell me how to change the login screen back to the kubuntu login after installing Gnome on kubuntu?
[12:57] <avc> deeLer what keys are you pressing to try to get back?
[12:57] <MasterPUA> os2mac!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROTFL!
[12:57] <avc> ctrl-alt-f1, etc?
[12:57] <deeLer> CRTL-ALT-F1
[12:57] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: the smallest one would be "The Wit and Wisdom of the SCO group"
[12:57] <derchilligephil> Seveas: thx, work great!
[12:57] <thoreauputic> ;)
[12:57] <Seveas> os2mac, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[12:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic lol
[12:57] <iceman> This process will not die iceman@Icebox64:~$ killall nautilus
[12:57] <iceman> iceman@Icebox64:~$ sudo pkill nautilus
[12:58] <iceman> and it restarts
[12:58] <avc> deeLer, were you ever able to do it?
[12:58] <deeLer> avc, no ... i've installed xorg from command line using apt-get
[12:59] <iceman> how do you bring up running process list
[12:59] <Seveas> iceman, ps aux
[12:59] <avc> iceman, or use top
[12:59] <thoreauputic> deeLer: have you lookined at the getty lines in /etc/inittab ?
[12:59] <thoreauputic> *looked
[12:59] <slibs> hmm
[01:00] <slibs> is there anything simpler than dcgui
[01:00] <sorush20> could someone please send me an Arial Narrow font to this email sorush20@postmaster.co.uk
[01:00] <slibs> there are like 10000 options i don't have any clue what they are
[01:00] <iceman> well, now... how to Kill this process ... brb log out and back in
[01:00] <slibs> and it won't work "just like that"
[01:00] <os2mac> for the record the dpkg did not correct it...
[01:01] <os2mac> the last time I had to do this I had to edit a file and point it to a /usr/bin/x
[01:01] <deeLer> thoreauputic, yes they're there
[01:01] <thoreauputic> deeLer: hmm
[01:01] <lawrence> has anyone here managed to burn an ISO to a CD in ubuntu?
[01:02] <thoreauputic> deeLer: I don't know then - maybe someone else will help
[01:02] <thoreauputic> lawrence: sure
[01:02] <jenda> lawrence: Use nomebaker or k3b
[01:02] <jenda> lawrence: *Gnomebaker
[01:02] <Cryptid> Which is the best Download manager available for Ubuntu??????
[01:02] <thoreauputic> lawrence: or just right click the ISO in nautilus and choose to burn it
[01:02] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: depends
[01:03] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: some would say wget
[01:03] <lawrence> yeah.. it tells me that I need to put a blank CD in the drive..
[01:03] <BoD_SWAT> I've got a palm zire which won't sync anymore (very strange) error = "SYNC_ERROR_BIND"
[01:03] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: if you want a GUI try d4x
[01:03] <aeon17x> thoreauputic: you can do it straight from Nautilus, and it'll burn the ISO's contents to the CD?
[01:03] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, k i will try d4x what bout kget hows is it?
[01:03] <thoreauputic> aeon17x: yep
[01:04] <lawrence> aeon17x: it's supposed to..
[01:04] <aeon17x> thoreauputic: I thought it'll burn the ISO as a... well... an ISO.
[01:04] <lawrence> but it doesn't for me..
[01:04] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: kget is OK I guess- I use wget personally from CLI
[01:04] <thoreauputic> aeon17x: no, it works
[01:04] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, is d4x and wget user friendly?
[01:04] <lawrence> what's an MiB?
[01:04] <thoreauputic> wget isn't  :)
[01:04] <DonVincenzo> Cryptid: kget works very well
[01:04] <darksatanic> lawrence: 1024 KiB
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: if you like KDE use kget
[01:05] <lawrence> what's with the i?
[01:05] <aeon17x> thoreauputic: hah, strike one up for Ubuntu. *wonders if Vista will have that feature in the future*
[01:05] <darksatanic> lawrence: 1048576 bytes
[01:05] <DonVincenzo> thoreauputic can you resume download with wget ?
[01:05] <bimberi> aeon17x: i did my breezy install cd that way :)
[01:05] <thoreauputic> DonVincenzo: yes ( the -c option)
[01:05] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, i dont like KDE so i think i will stick to d4x
[01:06] <thoreauputic> DonVincenzo: wget has about 70 options ;)
[01:06] <lawrence> darksatanic: (ohh.. nice name by the way).. I've noticed in Windows, it's just an MB..
[01:06] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: d4x looks quite nice
[01:06] <darksatanic> lawrence: Technically 1MB is 1000000 bytes, which is smaller than 1MiB
[01:06] <[devil-boy] > hello
[01:06] <[devil-boy] > anyone speaks spanish and english?
[01:07] <[devil-boy] > i'm trying to install ndis drivers on my unbuntu box
[01:07] <derchilligephil> i now cerveza
[01:07] <[devil-boy] > but i can't get it right
[01:07] <lawrence> darksatanic: I have never heard of an MiB before.. this is all.. new to me..
[01:07] <[devil-boy] > hacker@linuxbox:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/hacker/downloads/winxp/GPLUS.INF
[01:07] <thoreauputic> lawrence: welcome to our weird world ;-)
[01:07] <darksatanic> lawrence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
[01:08] <aeon17x> I thought it was a mibibyte. >_>
[01:08] <darksatanic> It's all about standardisation, and precision of expression.
[01:08] <lawrence> ahhh!!
[01:08] <[devil-boy] > does anyone knows how to install windows drivers on ubuntu?
[01:08] <aeon17x> [devil-boy] : windows drivers?
[01:08] <[devil-boy] > yes
[01:08] <[devil-boy] > winxp to be more precise
[01:08] <lawrence> so what is 511MiB equivelent to?
[01:08] <DonVincenzo> what software do you use to open realmedia content
[01:09] <DonVincenzo> ?
[01:09] <darksatanic> aeon17x: It's the same as the SI prefix, with the last two letters replaced by "bi"
[01:09] <Seveas> !realplayer
[01:09] <ubotu> realplayer is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:09] <aeon17x> [devil-boy] : I don't think you can do that.
[01:09] <lawrence> would that fit onto a 700 motorbike cd?
[01:09] <[devil-boy] > you can!
[01:09] <Seveas> [devil-boy] , your approach was coorect
[01:09] <Seveas> what went wrong?
[01:09] <jenda> lawrence: yes
[01:09] <darksatanic> lawrence: 511MiB == 511 * 1024 * 1024 bytes == 535822336
[01:09] <thoreauputic> aeon17x: I think he's using ndiswrapper
[01:09] <[devil-boy] > well it created the folder
[01:09] <[devil-boy] > gplus
[01:09] <aeon17x> !ndiswrapper
[01:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:09] <[devil-boy] > but there is no content
[01:09] <[devil-boy] > therefore the wireless card is not working still
[01:09] <Seveas> [devil-boy] , whats's the output of sudo ndiswrapper -l
[01:10] <aeon17x> I need to read up on that one. *steps away for a bit*
[01:10] <[devil-boy] > heheh
[01:10] <[devil-boy] > Installed ndis drivers:
[01:10] <[devil-boy] > gplus   invalid driver!
[01:10] <lawrence> Hmm.. well it's actually 612MiBs..
[01:10] <Seveas> so the driver is incorrect...
[01:11] <Seveas> is there both an .inf and a .sys file?
[01:11] <[devil-boy] > but i went to the location and all it's there is a folder called gplus
[01:11] <[devil-boy] > no .inf and no .sys
[01:11] <[devil-boy] > and i can't copy the files to that location
[01:13] <Cryptid> which other Browsers are present which are better than FireFoX???
[01:14] <eythian> Cryptid: when using KDE, I like Konqueror
[01:14] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: depends what you like I guess
[01:14] <bimberi> wine+ie6 :P
[01:14] <AMDXP> ewww
[01:14] <gnomefreak> i like firefox and opera
[01:14] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: there's epiphany and galeon...
[01:14] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, i only know bout FF i have no idea bout the other browsers
[01:14] <AMDXP> epiphany is not bad
[01:14] <Cryptid> is galeon good
[01:15] <thoreauputic> bimberi: growl .... *g*
[01:15] <MasterPUA> how about hamlet - is that any good?
[01:15] <aeon17x> Can I use ndiswrapper on monitors?
[01:15] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: galeon is very good
[01:15] <aftertaf> Seveas:  remember like 3 months ago when you sent me your start_nat script? it is now in use :)
[01:15] <bimberi> thoreauputic: sry, didn't recognise you in that cloak :)
[01:15] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: but it's a matter of taste
[01:15] <[devil-boy] > i think it only works for wireless
[01:15] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, does it have more features than FF
[01:15] <Seveas> aftertaf, lol :)
[01:15] <thoreauputic> bimberi: hahah
[01:16] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: umm - why not just try it and see if you  like it?
[01:16] <aftertaf> Seveas:  it was a cruddy crossover cable in the end.... i am now using one that i thought worked, and it does ;)
[01:16] <lawrence> yay.. I have an A64 too..
[01:16] <MasterPUA> which is the best online casino site?
[01:16] <aftertaf> now to setup a firewall correctly to make my mini lan invisible to the corporate pigdogs and their scanners :)
[01:17] <thoreauputic> MasterPUA: you are determined to be as off-topic as possible aren't you ?
[01:17] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, ok i will do that but now i got to get Ubuntu5.10 its been almost a month that i ordered for the cd and still havent got it so i have to download it now
[01:17] <eythian> aftertaf: OpenBSD is good for that
[01:18] <signius> I can highly recommend m0n0wall for a firewall
[01:19] <signius> OpenBSD is a complete head-fuck unless you know how to use it inside out
[01:19] <MajorPain> hi peeps
[01:19] <grumbel> how many packages does ubuntu has compared to debian? are any larger parts of debian missing or contain universe/multiverse basically everything?
[01:19] <Seveas> grumbel, everything and more
[01:19] <thoreauputic> grumbel: the lateer
[01:19] <thoreauputic> *latter
[01:19] <DonVincenzo> the ATI proprietary driver is asking me "Do you want to initialize xfree86-dga", should I dothis ?
[01:20] <Seveas> no
[01:20] <DonVincenzo> Seveas: what is this thing ?
[01:21] <signius> Im not saying OpenBSD isnt good it rock solid very well coded and very secure but its not for the faint haearted and the OpenBSD lads are very Elite attitude and not very forgiving to newbies
[01:21] <thoreauputic> signius:  -->> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:21] <Seveas> DonVincenzo, something that always crashes my Xorg if i enable it :)
[01:21] <signius> I was commenting on what someone posted a few moments ago
[01:21] <DonVincenzo> ok this is a good reason Seveas !
[01:22] <thoreauputic> signius: yes I know - just that we've seen BSD wars erupt in the past :)
[01:23] <eythian> signius: true, but it's firewalling system is pretty nice.
[01:23] <thoreauputic> guys seriously - feel free to discuss BSD in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:23] <DonVincenzo> Seveas: what about Do you want to use the external AGP GART module (y/n) ?
[01:23] <signius> True but a systerm is only ever as good as the person who's knowledge of using it is
[01:24] <Seveas> you were warned
[01:24] <adeen> if i'm using ClamAV to scan for viruses, where do i really need to scan?
[01:24] <Seveas> adeen, incoming mail
[01:24] <aftertaf> that was a gagging order..... ;)
[01:24] <barongas> Which reposiroty do I need to add for the w32 codecs?
[01:25] <aeon17x> That's gotta hurt...
[01:25] <Seveas> barongas, marillat has them, but download them manually
[01:27] <kbrooks> erm
[01:27] <kbrooks> i need a filelist (manifest) of a package
[01:27] <Seveas> apt-file list $package
[01:28] <thoreauputic> Seveas: i like your fade-out for gksudo etc :) Why was it dropped from breezy?
[01:28] <barongas> Seveas, found some w32 codec dated 20050412... good enough?
[01:28] <Seveas> thoreauputic, consumes too much CPU but i wanted it back :)
[01:28] <Seveas> barongas, yes
[01:28] <thoreauputic> Seveas: ah I see :)
[01:29] <kbrooks> brb
[01:29] <linuxgeek2> Hi folks
[01:29] <barongas> Seveas, suhweet
[01:29] <Torps> lo all
[01:29] <linuxgeek2> I just installed ubuntu today it's amazing
[01:30] <linuxgeek2> better than redhat which I used to use before
[01:30] <Seveas> linuxgeek2, welcome on the light side
[01:30] <Torps> how can i find out what my ip is in linux, like ipconfig in windows would do?
[01:30] <linuxgeek2> I have to install the C libraries
[01:30] <Sourceror> Can I use the installation script to setup a dual-boot system?
[01:30] <Tomcat_> Torps: ifconfig
[01:30] <Seveas> Torps, ifconfig
[01:30] <thoreauputic> Seveas: is there any point in updating sun jre from 1.5.x to the next minor upgrade? i have the older one ...
[01:30] <Torps> thanks
[01:30] <gnomefreak> torps: ifconfig
[01:30] <linuxgeek2> How do I do that ? C libraries
[01:30] <Seveas> linuxgeek2, without those you wouldn't have a syste,
[01:30] <Seveas> they are installed
[01:30] <Tomcat_> thoreauputic: Usually it's not that important... a few bugs fixed, maybe a security hole... that's about it.
[01:30] <Seveas> thoreauputic, -ENOCLUE
[01:31] <thoreauputic> OK thanks guys :)
[01:31] <linuxgeek2> But howvever when I type gcc and the file name I get an stdio.h error
[01:31] <aeon17x> A bit offtopic, but why is it called ifconfig and not ipconfig?
[01:31] <a_l_e> hello, i'd like to know if it's easy (if there is a how-to for it) to take a ubuntu live cd and make a copy with one program more up-to date than the installed version?
[01:31] <Tomcat_> thoreauputic: If you don't use Java software or applets from untrusted people/web sites it's alright to stay at an old one.
[01:31] <Seveas> linuxgeek2, apt-get install build-essential
[01:31] <thoreauputic> Tomcat_: that was more or less my assumption :)
[01:31] <Torps> is there a tutorial on how to get vnc working anywhere ?
[01:31] <Coweater> aeon17x: interface
[01:31] <Seveas> Torps, yeah you kick it out and use freenx :)
[01:31] <Torps> need to start a vnc server on my linux box
[01:31] <iceman> god i may need to reinstall.... Gnome has some serious issues, is there a way to Complete uninstall and reinstall gnome
[01:31] <Tomcat_> Torps: Enable it, then connect to it :D
[01:31] <Seveas> Torps, wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[01:31] <gnomefreak> aeon17x, my guess would be is that ipconfig was taken by microcrap
[01:31] <Torps> thanks
[01:31] <Tomcat_> Torps: If you got Ubuntu installed, VNC is in "Remote Desktop".
[01:31] <linuxgeek2> how do I do it with synaptics
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> iceman: yes there is
[01:32] <linuxgeek2> ?
[01:32] <kbrooks> gnomefreak:
[01:32] <Seveas> iceman, use debfoster to prune ubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: "interface config"
[01:32] <iceman> Nautilus has issues, and I tried Synaptic ... to reinstall.. but the Error will not go away
[01:32] <Torps> ta
[01:32] <mustard5> linuxboy, type build-essential in the search field
[01:32] <raingrove> does anyone know how to reduce font size of the motif apps like emacs?
[01:32] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, , type build-essential in the search field
[01:32] <linuxgeek2> ok
[01:32] <linuxgeek2> thanks mustard5
[01:32] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: ty
[01:32] <aeon17x> ah, so if in ifconfig stands for interface. Got it.
[01:32] <eythian> aeon17x: because it configures InterFaces, not just IP addresses
[01:33] <iceman> debfoster whats that
[01:33] <kbrooks> eythian: he knows
[01:33] <eythian> kbrooks: yeah, I got there too late :)
[01:33] <Torps> whats the command to start a pppoe connection again =)
[01:33] <aeon17x> Torps: pppoeconf
[01:33] <Torps> this must be irritating
[01:33] <Torps> thanks=)
[01:34] <iceman> Seveas What is debfoster ?
[01:34] <aeon17x> wait... you said start, right?
[01:34] <aeon17x> then it's just pon.
[01:34] <barongas> I downloaded and installed w32codecs_20050412-0unofficialubuntu2_i386.deb
[01:34] <barongas>  but neither vlc, mplayer or totem can handle wvm-files still... Any ideas?
[01:34] <Seveas> iceman, a really cool program :)
[01:34] <thoreauputic> !debfoster
[01:34] <ubotu> hmm... debfoster is A command to weed unnecessary .deb packages. See http://www.fruit.eu.org/debfoster/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2440
[01:34] <kbrooks> mono - > main?
[01:34] <kbrooks> Seveas: do you know why?
[01:34] <Seveas> hmm?
[01:34] <Seveas> what do you mean?
[01:34] <thoreauputic> barongas: install totem-xine :)
[01:35] <linuxgeek2> bingo solved the problem
[01:35] <kbrooks> "Build Mono 1.1, get it into main"
[01:35] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, good work
[01:35] <iceman> Problem is, I try to open and brouse File's and Nautlis keeps crashing ..
[01:35] <kbrooks> hmm
[01:35] <linuxgeek2> I am surely enjoying ubuntu man. I am gonna use it for life
[01:35] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, I like it when people solve their own problems ;) hhehehe
[01:35] <linuxgeek2> No more redhat and crap
[01:36] <kbrooks> "Beagle is wanted in the desktop seed for searching documents.
[01:36] <kbrooks> "
[01:36] <aftertaf> linukso:  good choice:)
[01:36] <linuxgeek2> ur an angel buddy mustard5
[01:36] <Seveas> !info mono
[01:36] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, best way to learn is to do ;)
[01:36] <ubotu> mono: (Mono CLI (.NET) runtime), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.1.8.3-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[01:36] <kbrooks> :)
[01:36] <linuxgeek2> yup i i sir
[01:36] <Seveas> mono is in main already
[01:36] <DonVincenzo> glxgears start fine, but after some seconds it slow down with the proprietary ATI drivers, did you have the same Seveas ?
[01:36] <kbrooks> Seveas: really.
[01:36] <kbrooks> !info monodevelop
[01:36] <ubotu> monodevelop: (C#/Boo/Java/Nemerle/ILasm Development Environment), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.7-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1308 kB, Installed size: 4788 kB
[01:36] <kbrooks> :( universe
[01:37] <gnomefreak> C# is different than C/C++?
[01:37] <Seveas> yes
[01:37] <Seveas> a lot
[01:37] <aftertaf> ms java :)
[01:37] <Seveas> they should not have called it C
[01:38] <gnomefreak> ah ty
[01:38] <kbrooks> C# > C(++)
[01:38] <Juhaz> well, they couldn't admit it's java clone...
[01:38] <kandoora_> how do i change grub so that the default os is windows
[01:38] <aftertaf> ok. got my nat up. gonna digest guarddog docs now :)
[01:38] <Seveas> kandoora_, change the line that starts with default
[01:38] <aeon17x> nobody tell him, we have to make him stick to ubuntu! >:)
[01:38] <aftertaf> kandoora_:  you edit /boot/grub/menu/lst
[01:39] <Seveas> (in /boot/grub.menu.lst)
[01:39] <barongas> thoreauputic, thanks, totem-xine did the trick
[01:39] <GNULinuxer>  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:39] <kandoora_> thanx guys
[01:39] <thoreauputic> barongas: :)) Great! You're welcome
[01:40] <sazwerx> arie-chan, alow.. ^_^ ketemu lagi
[01:40] <thesamet> Does anyone knows how to make the week on the date applet starts on Sunday, without editing the locale file?
[01:40] <kbrooks> sazwerx: english please
[01:40] <[devil-boy] > does anyone has a clue how to use ndiswrapper?
[01:41] <raingrove> does anyone know how to change font size for the menu and interface of emacs?
[01:41] <kbrooks> sazwerx: this is a english speaking channel
[01:41] <kbrooks> arie-chan: ask
[01:41] <sazwerx> kbrooks, sorry, bro.. i just say hi to my friend.. once again, sorry ^_^
[01:41] <arie-chan> any1 can help me how to have free shell ?
[01:41] <mustard5> [devil-boy] , you read the wiki guide?
[01:41] <Seveas> arie-chan, what do you mean?
[01:41] <aftertaf> free shell?
[01:41] <thoreauputic> [devil-boy] : you read  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper  ?
[01:42] <kbrooks> Seveas: erm, telnet / ssh access
[01:42] <thoreauputic> [devil-boy] : I assume you knew about that
[01:42] <linuxgeek2> Hey! When I download thro synaptic so may packages get pulled down I hope my hdd does'nt get flooded up with deb packages
[01:42] <[devil-boy] > going there now
[01:42] <thoreauputic> ah
[01:42] <arie-chan> any1 can help me how to have/make free shell for psybnc/eggdrop ?
[01:42] <mustard5> [devil-boy] , k
[01:42] <Seveas> linuxboy, apt-get clean cleans it out (is run from cron regularly)
[01:42] <aftertaf> linuxboy:  ^^^^^^
[01:42] <aftertaf> Seveas:  too darn fast ;)
[01:42] <linuxgeek2> ok
[01:42] <Seveas> linuxgeek2*
[01:42] <linuxgeek2> cool
[01:42] <arie-chan> Seveas : i need free shell for psybnc or eggs
[01:42] <Seveas> arie-chan, that's highly off-topic in here
[01:42] <kbrooks> arie-chan: you dont?
[01:43] <linuxboy> :)
[01:43] <linuxboy> lol
[01:43] <linuxgeek2> What's the latest distro
[01:43] <aftertaf> Seveas:  and we both got autotabbed into wrongness ;)
[01:43] <linuxgeek2> I am using breezy  badger
[01:43] <linuxgeek2> Is that the one ?
[01:43] <aftertaf> linuxgeek2:  yep
[01:43] <Seveas> breezy is the latest
[01:43] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, yep
[01:43] <linuxgeek2> cool
[01:43] <kbrooks> Seveas: well, psst, he could run a ssh server and use the ssh server
[01:43] <linuxgeek2> amazing
[01:43] <linuxgeek2> does ubu work on mac also
[01:43] <Seveas> yes
[01:43] <linuxgeek2> ?
[01:43] <kbrooks> yes
[01:43] <Seveas> and on amd64
[01:43] <kbrooks> :)
[01:43] <linuxgeek2> wow
[01:43] <Seveas> (and sparc and hppa)
[01:43] <aftertaf> lol linuxgeek2 :)
[01:44] <aftertaf> we have another convert, people
[01:44] <aftertaf> !disco
[01:44] <ubotu> Woo Yeah, boogie on down...... **flashing lights*** party :D
[01:44] <kbrooks> Seveas: prove it works on sparc
[01:44] <Seveas> !lart aftertaf
[01:44] <mustard5> :)
[01:44] <linuxgeek2> aftertaf, I new to this community feels great and make me proud
[01:44] <Seveas> kbrooks, http://ports.ubuntu.com/
[01:44] <aftertaf> linuxgeek2:  good for you pal ;)    (i know the feeling)
[01:44] <linuxgeek2> Feels like I am flying
[01:44] <Seveas> lol
[01:45] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, you visited the forums yet?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> linuxgeek2: nah, we're a hard bunch in here - we try really hard to be nasty and elitist ;-)
[01:45] <linuxgeek2> nopy
[01:45] <linuxgeek2> mustard5,
[01:45] <aftertaf> linuxgeek2:  if you want to hang around, you're willing ;)    and for pointless random stuff, come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:45] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, there is whole other world of niceness in the forum too :)
[01:45] <linuxgeek2> what's that ?
[01:45] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, the offtopic forum is for chatting ;)
[01:45] <aftertaf> linuxgeek2:  a channel wherewe can talk about nonubuntu stuff ;)
[01:46] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, channel I should say
[01:46] <linuxgeek2> ok
[01:46] <thoreauputic> linuxgeek2: and be rude about #ubuntu ;)
[01:46] <Torps> does any1 know how i can stop ubunut linux trying to synchronize clock with the server at startuo?
[01:46] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:46] <aftertaf> Torps:  yep... you can disable it
[01:46] <aftertaf> mustard5:  he has ;)
[01:46] <aftertaf> Torps:  you want to stop it, or make it do it after net connection is up?
[01:46] <linuxgeek2> got of a taste of it aftertaf
[01:46] <linuxgeek2> hahaha
[01:47] <aftertaf> re Kamping_Kaiser
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi aftertaf
[01:47] <Torps> aftertaf: make it do it after the net connections up.
[01:47] <aftertaf> Torps:  the commands are in /etc/init.d    and have symlnks in /etc/rcN.d folders
[01:47] <Paradoxx> !mount
[01:47] <ubotu> mount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[01:48] <Paradoxx> !fat32
[01:48] <arie-chan> where i can create account for shell ?
[01:48] <ubotu> fat32 is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[01:48] <aftertaf> Torps:  go have a look in there ;)  ill tell you what to do after :)
[01:48] <Torps> ok thanks
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> bloody Linux :S so unstable
[01:48] <onkarshinde> When will be the HP custom CD for breezy be available for i386?
[01:48] <Torps> busy with trying to get it to connect to the net first, thanks though
[01:48] <arie-chan> where can i create account for shell ?
[01:49] <aftertaf> Torps:  hehe :)   ok. look in those folders though, it is very good to know how and what starts things on boot ;)
[01:49] <arie-chan> help pls..
[01:49] <Torps> ta
[01:49] <frenkel> arie-chan $ sudo useradd -m <name>
[01:49] <frenkel> arie-chan $ sudo passwd <name>
[01:49] <onkarshinde> arie-chan: what do you mean exactly?
[01:50] <_dexter> hi
[01:50] <arie-chan> onkarshinde : i need shell
[01:50] <gnomefreak> i have this feeling he means "shell" as in isp type shell but not sure
[01:50] <_dexter> anyone know why the ati fglrx module won't use its GL lib but Mesa instead?
[01:50] <arie-chan> $ sudo useradd -m <arie>
[01:50] <linuxgeek2> does ubuntu have a terminal
[01:50] <linuxgeek2> I really can't see it
[01:51] <frenkel> arie-chan no, without the < >'s
[01:51] <onkarshinde> When will be the HP custom CD of breezy for HP laptops be available for i386?
[01:51] <aeon17x> linuxgeek2: it's in Accessories now.
[01:51] <arie-chan> $ sudo useradd -m arie
[01:51] <linuxgeek2> ok
[01:51] <gnomefreak> linuxgeek2,  it has a few terminals
[01:51] <frenkel> arie-chan yes
[01:51] <AMDXP> anyone using cacti?
[01:51] <frenkel> _dexter: sudo apt-get xorg-driver-fglrx and then edit your xorg.conf and reboot
[01:51] <onkarshinde> arie-chan: do you mean terminal? You just need to start gnome-terminal. You don't need to create an account for it.
[01:52] <_dexter> frenkel: already done. .conf looks good. perms for DRI are alright. that's why I ask.
[01:52] <gnomefreak> yeah they  moved the reg. terminal but the root terminal is put in system tools :(
[01:53] <frenkel> _dexter did you change Driver "ati" in Driver "fglrx" ?
[01:53] <_dexter> well, actually ran fglrxconfig and manually edited what it gave me
[01:53] <arie-chan> $ sudo useradd -m arie
[01:53] <arie-chan> $ sudo useradd -m arie
[01:53] <aftertaf> Torps:  internet to autostart on boot?
[01:53] <frenkel> ah
[01:53] <_dexter> frenkel: fglrxconfig did that of course. without bragging, but im thru the n00b issues ;)
[01:53] <mustard5> sudo apt-get install open-terminal if you want to open terminal from your context menu...  I love it ;)
[01:54] <frenkel> _dexter: are there any errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[01:54] <_dexter> no EE
[01:54] <frenkel> and on dmesg ?
[01:55] <_dexter> nothing either
[01:55] <gnomefreak> mustard5, cant find open-terminal
[01:55] <frenkel> _dexter:  did you reboot? or at least restart X?
[01:56] <_dexter> frenkel: meh, didnt identify, cant privmsg, moment
[01:56] <_dexter> but problem is solved
[01:56] <mustard5> bah...sorry.. nautilus-open-terminal
[01:56] <frenkel> _dexter: how did you solve it?
[01:56] <mustard5> gnomefreak you see that ?
[01:57] <_dexter> apt-get update just finished and for reasons beyond me now I have ATI rendering
[01:57] <frenkel> lol :)
[01:57] <nekostar> o.o
[01:57] <_dexter> funny since fglrx wasn't updated
[01:57] <frenkel> enjoy :p
[01:57] <gnomefreak> mustard5, yes ty that one worked
[01:57] <nekostar> how can i get glxgears to show framerate?
[01:57] <_dexter> yah. sheer mystery. I gave up investigating such matters :)
[01:57] <mustard5> gnomefreak, the lazy man's terminal choice ;)
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> nekostar: by using the -iacknowlagethatthistestisnotabenchmark switch
[01:58] <nekostar> ................
[01:58] <gnomefreak> mustard5, is it the one with the S in the screen?
[01:58] <nekostar> i already knew that
[01:58] <nekostar> and i EVEN saw a post with that
[01:58] <nekostar> but how do i get it to do so?
[01:58] <aeon17x> nekostar: actually, Kamping_Kaiser is serious.
[01:59] <aeon17x> glxgears -iacknowlagethatthistestisnotabenchmark
[01:59] <mustard5> gnomefreak, just find a blank area on desktop and right click
[01:59] <frenkel> Warrning: unknown parameter: -iacknowlagethatthistestisnotabenchmark
[01:59] <sleon|tuX> hi
[01:59] <sleon|tuX> hi to configure adsl under ubuntu
[01:59] <nekostar> frenkel,
[01:59] <aeon17x> wrong spelling, I guess.
[01:59] <nekostar> ignroe them
[01:59] <nekostar> they thing its #debian
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> frenkel: i cant spell ;)
[01:59] <darksatanic> frenkel: acknowledge
[01:59] <nekostar> *think
[01:59] <aeon17x> sleon|tuX: you have a pppoe connection?
[02:00] <frenkel> nekostar no, i heard of it, it is really that way, but not that exact sentence
[02:00] <aeon17x> sleon|tuX: if you do, then it's pppoeconf
[02:00] <nekostar> whatever
[02:00] <sleon|tuX> aeon17x, thxxxx
[02:00] <nekostar> ive had it do that
[02:00] <nekostar> and it was nothing like that
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> nekostar: shall i look it up for you?
[02:00] <frenkel> Warrning: unknown parameter: -iacknowledgethatthistestisnotabenchmark
[02:00] <gnomefreak> mustard5, i cant open it it tells me failed to execute child terminal or something like that
[02:00] <MaTaKs> how can i install my driver for my webcam?
[02:00] <mustard5> gnomefreak, interesting....
[02:01] <mustard5> gnomefreak, thats not right :)
[02:01] <nekostar> Bogomips: 3301.37 <-- a useful way of saying how much my cpu can do
[02:01] <gnomefreak> mustard5, no such file or directory is the error
[02:02] <mustard5> gnomefreak, I'd sudo apt-get remove --purge nautilus-open-terminal and reinstall
[02:02] <nekostar> Add this alias to the bottom of your /etc/bash.bashrc file. alias glxgears='glxgears -printfps'
[02:03] <frenkel> nekostar, i know, but what is the cool long name for printfps? :p
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> frenkel: -iacknowlaedgethatthstoolisnotabenchmark
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> *sp
[02:04] <haffe> Hi, I have a DL dvd that I want to copy to two sl dvds. Whats the easiest way to do that under ubuntu?
[02:04] <nekostar> alias glxgears='glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark'
[02:04] <nekostar> ill be dammed
[02:04] <mustard5> gnomefreak, do you run a root account enabled out of curiousity?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> no mustard5
[02:04] <frenkel> Kamping_Kaiser, nekostar, thanks :) :P
[02:04] <mustard5> k
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> frenkel: :D
[02:04] <gnomefreak> i just tried it again and same thing
[02:04] <mustard5> gnomefreak, bummer that it didnt work..its pretty handy
[02:05] <atripathi> goodevening peeps
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[02:05] <mustard5> evening atripathi
[02:05] <haffe> Evening? It's the middle of the day here :)
[02:05] <gnomefreak> mustard5, if its the one with the S in the screen (icon) than its still there after purging it out
[02:05] <atripathi> does anybody here use webmin with breezy ?
[02:06] <atripathi> haffe here we have ppl from all across the globe ;)
[02:06] <mustard5> no..it appears in your context menu when your right click on a blank area of desktop
[02:06] <haffe> atripathi, I know :)
[02:06] <gnomefreak> ok let me try again
[02:06] <hill0703> how do I show disk usage
[02:06] <HrdwrBoB> df -h
[02:07] <hill0703> thanks
[02:07] <HrdwrBoB> also applications-> system tools-> system monitor
[02:07] <gnomefreak> mine doesnt
[02:07] <atripathi> webmin worked fine with hoary but since today morning when I fresh installed breezy and the webmin packages ..... webmin wont show up ..not even on manual invoke
[02:07] <gnomefreak> do i need to restart gnome?
[02:07] <mustard5> gnomefreak, I don't know...I wouldnt think so, but you never know
[02:08] <gnomefreak> mustard5, im gonna try to restart
[02:08] <arie-chan> how to register at this channel
[02:08] <aftertaf> !register
[02:08] <ubotu> Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. This has meant that #ubuntu has had to be closed to unregistered users (for the moment).
[02:09] <aftertaf> ^^^^^^^isregard everyone.
[02:09] <arie-chan> !register
[02:09] <aeon17x> I guess that entry's outdated.
[02:09] <nekostar> heh
[02:09] <iceman> Ok, who can help. Somehow I have screwed up the ability to open and search Folders in gnome
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol aftertaf
[02:09] <atripathi> anyone?
[02:09] <NuB> !register
[02:09] <ubotu> Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. This has meant that #ubuntu has had to be closed to unregistered users (for the moment).
[02:09] <nekostar> and it doesnt work as a bash alias
[02:09] <mustard5> arie-chan, type /msg nickserv help register
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> should update ubotu
[02:09] <aftertaf> !register
[02:10] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser:  just have ;)
[02:10] <aftertaf> !register
[02:10] <ubotu> somebody said register was type /msg nickserv help register
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, ok :D
[02:10] <arie-chan> $ sudo useradd -m arie
[02:10] <tidsrom> oops, i managed to remove myself from the admin group, and now i can't sudo anymore. what to do?
[02:10] <iceman> How to fix nautlis .... so i can open folders
[02:11] <mustard5> iceman, any clues on what you might have done to it?
[02:11] <iceman> The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[02:11] <iceman> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.
[02:11] <iceman> no idea
[02:11] <atripathi> dpkg-reconfigure nautilus
[02:11] <aftertaf> tidsrom:  root account enabled or not?
[02:11] <atripathi> maybe it helps
[02:11] <gnomefreak> mustard5,  rebooting gnome put it in context menu
[02:11] <tidsrom> eftertaf: root account not enabled
[02:11] <mustard5> gnomefreak, yay :)
[02:11] <gnomefreak> :)
[02:11] <mustard5> gnomefreak, you like?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> mustard5, so far i havent seena difference
[02:12] <aftertaf> tidsrom:  type su - in a console.....
[02:12] <mustard5> gnomefreak, I just find that one easier to use than going up to the menus all the time
[02:13] <BeGu> hello
[02:13] <gnomefreak> brb playing with it
[02:13] <Paradoxx> whats the command to make a fat32 partition?
[02:13] <tidsrom> $ su -
[02:13] <tidsrom> Password:
[02:13] <tidsrom> su: Authentication failure
[02:13] <tidsrom> Sorry
[02:13] <robertbb> Paradoxx, mkfs.vfat
[02:14] <mustard5> tidsrom, no pasting in main channel plz
[02:14] <mustard5> tidsrom, use #flood or the pastebin
[02:14] <robertbb> Paradoxx, Though if you want it to work in Windows for dual-boot, best to format the partition using Windows.
[02:14] <robertbb> (in FAT32)
[02:14] <aftertaf> tidsrom:  you're in a mess then.
[02:14] <tidsrom> mustard5: sorry, will read topic more carefully... :)
[02:14] <robertbb> Ubuntu will then be able to read it and mount it, just make sure you pass the correct options in /etc/fstab
[02:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> tidsrom: try safe mode
[02:15] <aftertaf> safe == recovery ;)
[02:15] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[02:15] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[02:15] <robertbb> Paradoxx, e.g. line in /etc/fstab is:       /dev/sda4       /home/robertbb/data     vfat            defaults,uid=robertbb,gid=robertbb,umask=022    0       1
[02:15] <yhager> hill0703, I am not getting any sound since upgrade to breezy. Any ideas?
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: :p
[02:15] <robertbb> And on that note, time to go out and enjoy Friday night.
[02:15] <robertbb> :-D
[02:16] <yhager> hill0703,  I am not getting any sound since upgrade to breezy. Any ideas? (sorry for previous msg)
[02:16] <nomed> do you know if it exists a script to generate the ubuntu livecd initrd?
[02:16] <mustard5> yhager, I'm thinking about it....no light bulbs going off yet :)
[02:16] <corincole> is there a list anywhere of command-line software, such as irssi and links ?
[02:16] <Paradoxx> just looked at the man page for it..
[02:16] <Paradoxx> so command would b
[02:16] <linuxgeek2> mustard5, that problem of gnome hanging is still there
[02:17] <alex43> Hi !
[02:17] <Paradoxx> mkfa.vfat F 32 /dev/sda1
[02:17] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, what changed?
[02:17] <linuxgeek2> I am using a laptop with a wireless device
[02:17] <Paradoxx> that would make a fat32 partition
[02:17] <yhager> mustard5, thanks. I can't seem to find anything wrong, any error message, I just can't hear anything..
[02:17] <linuxgeek2> Gnome takes 10 minutes to load when wirless devices are activated
[02:17] <corincole> anyone? is there a list anywhere of command-line software, such as irssi and links?
[02:18] <eythian> corincole: there are literally thousands of command line apps
[02:18] <hill0703> where does it get stuck that it takes so long to load?
[02:18] <corincole> is there a list of commonly-used ones?
[02:18] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, ah ok, did that ever get fixed today?
[02:18] <linuxgeek2> I have no idea
[02:18] <linuxgeek2> nope mustard5
[02:18] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, I thought it was all better
[02:18] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, ok
[02:18] <alex43> I have no sound on ubuntu with my PCI Creative Ensonyc although I see signal on VU meter. Anyone can help please ? Thanks :)
[02:18] <linuxgeek2> I have no clue
[02:19] <corincole> casser? what does that mean?
[02:19] <corincole> to break?
[02:19] <darksatanic> Yes
[02:19] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, I've got no ideas
[02:19] <linuxgeek2> oh
[02:19] <nomed> copilot, mutt,vim,links,mc
[02:19] <eythian> corincole: not really, they're all used a lot :) apt-cache search can help find things though
[02:19] <mustard5> yhager, you want me to go through it with you, we can check simple stuff first
[02:20] <nomed> sorry .. corincole
[02:20] <corincole> eythian, can i pm you? :)
[02:20] <corincole> or nomed, or someone clever...
[02:20] <corincole> :P
[02:20] <eythian> corincole: I'm kinda distracted right now, not paying much attention to IRC
[02:20] <yhager> I already checked alsamixer volume settings, mplayer error messages (none). Anything else trivial?
[02:21] <tidsrom> Kamping_Kaiser: recovery mode got me back my root account. thanks!
[02:21] <mustard5> yhager, type /join #kubuntu-offtopic  ....its quieter..this could take a while
[02:21] <ArdieM> anybody know any good howTo for installing my radeon 9800??
[02:21] <ArdieM> i just dont get it :(
[02:21] <corincole> brb
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> tidsrom: cool :)
[02:21] <aeon17x> !tell ArdieM about radeon
[02:21] <alex43> I have no sound on ubuntu with my PCI Creative Ensonyc although I see signal on VU meter. Anyone can help please ? Thanks :)
[02:21] <tidsrom> note to self: don't try to add self to group with usermod -G
[02:22] <ArdieM> aeho_, didnt worked
[02:22] <ArdieM> !tell ArdieM about ati
[02:22] <ArdieM> ah ok
[02:24] <canpolat> hoi
[02:24] <TheCode> hello!
[02:24] <canpolat> ist da jemand?
[02:24] <canpolat> german?
[02:24] <TheCode> my openoffice calk works wrong...
[02:25] <whitefloyd> ja... deutscher irc ist #ubuntu-de
[02:25] <canpolat> i dont ne no office :)
[02:25] <canpolat> cool, bin zum ersten male hier
[02:25] <TheCode> =dateif(M2;HEUTE();"y") no dateif in calc?
[02:25] <canpolat> wieso trennen alle :)
[02:26] <canpolat> canpolat hat betreten
[02:26] <canpolat> nein verlassen :)
[02:26] <DonVincenzo> after installing the ATI proprietary drivers I found in /var/log/Xorg.0.log  "Kernel Module version does *not* match driver"
[02:27] <DonVincenzo>  incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will
[02:27] <DonVincenzo> not work
[02:27] <DonVincenzo> what should I do ?
[02:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> DonVincenzo: recompile atis driver
[02:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> using gcc3.4
[02:28] <_dexter> talk about recompiling: I tried the other day to install a cvs version of gtk2-engines-gtk-qt (whose real name is gtk-qt-engines btw. why do debian peeps always have to mess with the packages name?). in short: I didn'z get it working. are there any helper tools for building .debs? the apt-howto approaches drove me nuts.
[02:29] <christoph_> test
[02:29] <mustard5> What does kubuntu use instead of multimedia selector in menus?
[02:31] <NanoBCN28> hi people
[02:31] <chx> reading http://wiki.kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges I feel the urge to try the new kernel (for example, I run FUSE as a module). any unofficial repos maybe?
[02:31] <ubuntu> hello all
[02:31] <ubuntu> is there a torrent for ubu 5.10?
[02:31] <NanoBCN28> just one question. has any of you connected to the soulseek network through mldonkey?
[02:32] <chx> ubuntu tried googling?
[02:32] <dunston> Is the ubuntu guide opdatet for breezy?
[02:33] <DonVincenzo> in case I get stuck without my x server, what IRC text client do you advice me to use ?
[02:33] <chx> ubuntu: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ ...
[02:33] <ubuntu> chx, thnx i'll check
[02:34] <Juhaz> DonVincenzo, irssi
[02:34] <kbrooks> DonVincenzo: Use irssi, which is symlinked by irc
[02:34] <ubuntu> chx, it was there:) thnx a lot
[02:35] <corincole> can someone experienced with command-line please pm me so i can ask a few questions? :)
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> corincole: ask in the channel
[02:35] <HrdwrBoB> corincole: just ask
[02:35] <corincole> ok
[02:36] <corincole> just like DonVin....  im looking for non-gui software
[02:36] <corincole> i alread new irssi though lol
[02:36] <BeGu> I have a problem: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories when I'm modifying that sources.list I haven't got that section mentioned in that guide... so I tried just to paste those following lines to somewhere in that sources.list...  now when I try apt-get update it says E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. so it didn't work
[02:36] <corincole> what is the best for text editing?
[02:36] <BeGu> so could some one send me working sources.list or something?
[02:36] <thoreauputic> BeGu: don't use ubuntuguide - it's out of date
[02:36] <targetx> Hello everyone!
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> corincole: nano is easiest
[02:36] <thoreauputic> !tell BeGu about sources
[02:37] <barongas> corincole, I use nano
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> corincole: when you want to get into flame wars use either vim or emacs
[02:37] <barongas> corincole, If you're going to code n stuff you should check up vi and emacs but they're a bit trickier
[02:37] <thoreauputic> BeGu: you got  the bot's message?
[02:37] <BeGu> thanks thoreauputic
[02:37] <thoreauputic> BeGu: np :)
[02:37] <aeon17x> corincole: if you just want to type, gedit or kwrite will do it for you.
[02:37] <corincole> barongas, what are vi and emacs?
[02:38] <corincole> aeon17x, gedit didnt working for me...
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> corincole: advanced text editors
[02:38] <barongas> aeon17x,  they are X programs aren't they?
[02:38] <corincole> Kamping_Kaiser, flame wars?
[02:38] <barongas> corincole, What kaiser said
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> corincole: arguments
[02:38] <thoreauputic> !start an editor war
[02:38] <ubotu> vim is better than emacs
[02:38] <corincole> ok
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> !botsnacks
[02:38] <ubotu> :)
[02:38] <thoreauputic> !ed
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[02:38] <ubotu> ed is the standard editor! ed, man! man ed!
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> ed :O sif
[02:38] <corincole> ok...  for msn?
[02:39] <corincole> centericq?
[02:39] <barongas> corincole, vi and emacs are really advanced editors with highly developed functions for programmers. They can be tricky to learn but fast and efficient once mastered
[02:39] <corincole> ok
[02:39] <thoreauputic> corincole: gaim does msn
[02:39] <corincole> in command-line too?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> corincole: and gaim is installed by default
[02:39] <thoreauputic> no
[02:39] <barongas> Hmmm, command-line msn...
[02:39] <corincole> thoreauputic, we're talking about command-line software...  keep track :P
[02:40] <corincole> lol
[02:40] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[02:40] <eazel7> hi ppl
[02:40] <corincole> last 2.4 mins would have done...
[02:40] <corincole> lol
[02:40] <corincole> lol
[02:40] <corincole> anyway, command-line msn...,?
[02:40] <barongas> corincole, http://freshmeat.net/redir/lmme/18723/url_homepage/lmme
[02:40] <eazel7> can I do clustering with ubuntu?
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> none afaik
[02:41] <eazel7> corincole: did you try centericq? (supports msn)
[02:41] <aftertaf> eazel7:  yes, but i dont know how.
[02:41] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: ouch that *really* hurt
[02:41] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:41] <corincole> ok
[02:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:41] <corincole> ummm
[02:42] <corincole> what other command-line stuff do i need?
[02:42] <corincole> -_-
[02:42] <eazel7> corincole: for what?
[02:42] <thoreauputic> corincole:  man man
[02:42] <corincole> anything lol
[02:42] <corincole> man man?
[02:42] <eazel7> corincole: you wanna live in a console?
[02:42] <barongas> corincole, in order to compile lmme you probably need to install curses/ncurses and maybe dev packages
[02:42] <thoreauputic> corincole: it exists actually
[02:42] <corincole> eazel7, yes, on one pc
[02:43] <corincole> thor....  what is it? (and can you shorten your name lol)
[02:43] <jenda> eazel7: I do. Diogenes lived in a barrel - why couldn't I live in a console?
[02:43] <aftertaf> corincole:  tab ;)
[02:43] <eazel7> corincole: like an uterus, haha, well, I'm sure you will want to install links2?
[02:43] <thoreauputic> corincole: though the most useful man page is probably man intro
[02:43] <corincole> tab?
[02:43] <aftertaf> autocomplete.
[02:43] <eazel7> jenda: hehehehehe
[02:43] <thoreauputic> corincole: thore <hit tab>
[02:43] <corincole> :)
[02:43] <corincole> it works
[02:43] <corincole> :D
[02:44] <barongas> corincole, I suppose you have lynx already... If you need a bittorrent client that works without X I'd go for torrentflux if you plan to install mysql/php/apache that is
[02:44] <DonVincenzo> are the xorg-driver-fglrx the same drivers as ATI (proprietary) ?
[02:44] <jenda> corincole: In Xchat: Settings>Preferences>Input Box
[02:44] <corincole> kk
[02:44] <corincole> lol
[02:44] <jenda> corincole: In Xchat: check the "autocomplete"
[02:44] <thoreauputic> corincole: for a n intro to CLI  type   man intro  as I said
[02:44] <corincole> yup
[02:44] <aftertaf> hes a cli man
[02:44] <corincole> it works
[02:44] <corincole> but im using gaim lol
[02:44] <corincole> brb
[02:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> just use Gnome-terminal :|
[02:45] <jenda> How do you IRC in CLI?
[02:45] <thoreauputic> jenda:  irssi
[02:45] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:45] <aftertaf> irssi
[02:45] <jenda> I tried NAIM, but couldn't lg in
[02:45] <targetx> BitchX all the way
[02:45] <thoreauputic> targetx: bah
[02:45] <aftertaf> !start an irc war
[02:45] <ubotu> aftertaf: Are you smoking crack?
[02:45] <thoreauputic> !start an IRC war
[02:45] <ubotu> thoreauputic: What?
[02:45] <aftertaf> looooooooool
[02:45] <thoreauputic> !start an IRC client war
[02:45] <ubotu> irssi is better than gaim !
[02:45] <eazel7> centericq works very well to me
[02:46] <jenda> ubotu: Who isn't?
[02:46] <ubotu> jenda: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:46] <lunatech> irssi rules
[02:46] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: great minds ;)
[02:46] <ajeet> Hello, is there a way to view Nautilus in root mode?
[02:46] <corincole> hey
[02:46] <jenda> ubotu: xplain what?
[02:46] <ubotu> jenda: I give up, what is it?
[02:46] <thoreauputic> ajeet:  gksudo nautilus
[02:46] <ajeet> Thanks!
[02:46] <lunatech> ajeet: sudo nautilus --no-desktop
[02:46] <aftertaf> thoreauputic:  yeah ;)
[02:46] <mustard5> ubotu bitchx is smokin'
[02:46] <ubotu> mustard5: okay
[02:46] <targetx> ajeet; sudo nautilus
[02:46] <thoreauputic> mustard5: yeah, smokin crack
[02:47] <mustard5> hehe
[02:47] <jenda> ubotu: xplain what?
[02:47] <ubotu> jenda: Wish i knew
[02:47] <jenda> ubotu: Right...
[02:47] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, jenda
[02:47] <sorush20> anyone know about international  keyboards around or not?
[02:48] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[02:48] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> jenda: when you say ubotu <something> it tries to add it to it's memeory
[02:48] <jenda> sorush20: I mightt
[02:48] <mustard5> sorush20, whats your problem?
[02:48] <lunatech> ubotu: 42
[02:48] <ubotu> lunatech: What?
[02:48] <jenda> ubotu something
[02:48] <ubotu> jenda: Are you smoking crack?
[02:48] <thoreauputic> !life
[02:48] <ubotu> The answer to the question about life, the universe and everything is ... 42
[02:49] <jenda> ubotu: Nah. I don't smoke anything
[02:49] <ubotu> jenda: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:49] <lunatech> heh
[02:49] <sorush20> jenda: I'm a multilinugist and type in different languages but don't have an international keyboard is there one avaiblable.. i mean one that has an LCD, or colour TFT for each key, enabling it to show any character from any language just by it software?
[02:49] <corincole> a windmill? im going to sleep in a windmill tonight
[02:49] <jenda> ubotu: Not recently
[02:49] <ubotu> jenda: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[02:49] <corincole> :P
[02:49] <corincole> true story
[02:49] <corincole> ;)
[02:49] <jenda> sorush20: Sorry, no idea
[02:49] <thoreauputic> jenda: if you want to play with the bot you can type /query ubotu and have a private session ( leave out the !)
[02:50] <mustard5> sorush20, I saw something like this once....
[02:50] <mustard5> let me check something....
[02:50] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[02:50] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[02:50] <thoreauputic> heh
[02:50] <corincole> links localhost
[02:50] <eazel7> ubotu: isn't ubuntu nudist?
[02:50] <ubotu> eazel7: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:50] <eazel7> ubotu: yes, you?
[02:50] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:51] <eazel7> stupid ubotu
[02:51] <thoreauputic> OK - enough with the bot
[02:51] <targetx> heh. I never knew you guys where ops :-)
[02:52] <thoreauputic> targetx: we're sneaky ;)
[02:52] <jenda> Is ubotu really a bot?
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:52] <corincole> can anyone think of anything interesting to do?
[02:52] <corincole> :)
[02:52] <targetx> jenda, lol yes
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> jenda: yes, realy :)
[02:52] <thoreauputic> jenda: yup
[02:52] <mustard5> sorush20, I'm waiting for my dialup to open a page...I hope its got something interesting for you
[02:52] <jenda> cool
[02:52] <targetx> corincole, find a way for me to get Doom 3 to accept my legal cd key
[02:52] <corincole> i mean, something interesting to do with command-line
[02:52] <targetx> o.. right
[02:52] <corincole> not something boring  ;)
[02:52] <barongas> corincole, check out http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/aaxine.1.html an ascii video player :)
[02:52] <corincole> lol
[02:53] <barongas> corincole, and you WILL need nethack
[02:53] <corincole> how do i copy that link?
[02:53] <corincole> and what is nethack?
[02:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> barongas: just use mplayer in framebuffer mode :)
[02:53] <jenda> Anyone here can help me switch from 386 to 686 kernel and install NVIDIA? I had some troubles - trying again.
[02:53] <corincole> barongas, how can I copy and past?
[02:53] <barongas> Just mark it with your mouse and then paste to your browser or you in console now?
[02:53] <jenda> corincole: nethack is the linux version of World of Warcraft
[02:53] <ajeet> Is "sudo -K" the command to kill the process?
[02:53] <barongas> Kamping_Kaiser, I didn't know that :)
[02:53] <jjesse> what packages do i need to install to get lex and yacc (installed ubuntu server 5.10)
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:54] <mustard5> sorush, something like this http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=247
[02:54] <corincole> and is there a way of viewing images in ascii?
[02:54] <barongas> corincole, nethack is an ascii game which is extremely wellmade
[02:54] <corincole> ok
[02:54] <targetx> corincole; seejpeg
[02:54] <mustard5> sorush20, something like this http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=247
[02:54] <jenda> corincole: As I said, it is the linux version of World of Warcraft
[02:54] <targetx> ARGH! No WoW please.. I thought people using linux had intelect
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:55] <barongas> corincole, lynx works ok as a webbrowser but I find it has problems with many pages, any more up-to-date console browsers?
[02:55] <barongas> targetx, nope, we're just nerdier
[02:55] <jenda> targetx: Yes, they do. They play nethack.
[02:55] <Seveas> links2
[02:55] <barongas> targetx, and what jenda says.
[02:55] <targetx> jenda, barongas, those games just exist to waste precious time.
[02:55] <jenda> All games do.
[02:56] <jenda> Anyone here can help me switch from 386 to 686 kernel and install NVIDIA? I had some troubles - trying again.
[02:56] <targetx> and personally I think they are for people with no social life, cause they can really play ' in their own world and be someone else ' in WoW-like games
[02:56] <barongas> targetx, There's nothing precious about my time... I need to go eat soon...
[02:56] <corincole> how can i open .zip files, or play musu
[02:56] <corincole> music*
[02:56] <targetx> unzip file.zip
[02:56] <jenda> mplayer musicfile
[02:56] <barongas> targetx, I totally agree, they tend to have quite boring gameplay as well...But this is going offtopic :)
[02:56] <targetx> barongas, ok :)
[02:57] <corincole> and then how do i open a .jpg file?
[02:57] <jenda> MMORPGs are the bane of humankind
[02:57] <targetx> seejpeg file.jpg
[02:57] <targetx> Half-Life 2 all the way! yeahh
[02:57] <targetx> and Wolfenstein ET
[02:57] <targetx> and Quake 4 / Doom 3
[02:57] <targetx> etc etc
[02:57] <targetx> but HL2 the most
[02:57] <mustard5> sorush20, you still around? did you see the keyboard at the link I showed you?  That looks like what you are after
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> targetx: yay :D
[02:57] <jenda> targetx: ET rocks
[02:57] <targetx> yeah it's real good!
[02:57] <corincole> seejpeg doesnt work
[02:58] <targetx> the performance is excellent on my linux box, too
[02:58] <corincole> and sudo apt-get install seejpeg does nothing...
[02:58] <Seveas> corincole, eog
[02:58] <ajeet> I've just replaced the blue firefox logo with the proper orange one, but when i load firefox, it still has the old logo in the top left corner, why is this?
[02:58] <targetx> corincole, it might not be installed  < OR > you might not be running a SVGA terminal
[02:58] <corincole> SVGA?
[02:58] <jenda> me 2. I gotta reboot now into 686... be back
[02:58] <targetx> jenda, cya
[02:58] <barongas> targetx, 3D-shooters are kind of dull as well imho... There is still no game that can match Master of Magic or Monkey Island
[02:58] <jenda> cya 2
[02:58] <targetx> corincole, never mind, you probably don't have it
[02:58] <targetx> barongas, you consider Monkey Island one of the best made games ever ?
[02:58] <corincole> so how can i open jpgs?
[02:59] <targetx> corincole, you only want to use a terminal ?
[02:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> corincole: in a terminal you cant
[02:59] <corincole> yup
[02:59] <corincole> lol
[02:59] <corincole> :o
[02:59] <targetx> Kamping_Kaiser, not in a xterminal. You can in a VC
[02:59] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: yes you can
[02:59] <ajeet> I've just replaced the blue firefox logo with the proper orange one, but when i load firefox, it still has the old logo in the top left corner, why is this?
[02:59] <thoreauputic> in a tty
[02:59] <corincole> thoreauputic:   how?
[02:59] <targetx> ajeet, stop spamming your question
[02:59] <targetx> thoreauputic, exactly
[02:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0
[02:59] <thoreauputic> corincole: I',\m trying to remember the name
[02:59] <barongas> targetx, Not for gameplay maybe but it's hilarious for the time it takes to finish. Now HL and those games get dull quite fast.
[02:59] <thoreauputic> ...
[02:59] <corincole> ok thoreauputic
[03:00] <targetx> barongas, I don't agree at that. I really enjoyed Half-Life & Half-Life 2 including every addon they made (Blue Shift, Opposing Force etc..)
[03:00] <hophop> hi all!
[03:00] <jc-denton> hi all
[03:00] <BlackDalek> hello
[03:00] <targetx> barongas, I personally think those are the best games ever made by mankind :-)
[03:00] <B|4ckm0r3> hi all!i've stopped a print process and now my printer wont print anything else...is there a way to get it work again?(i've already restarted cups)
[03:00] <mustard5> hi jc-denton and hophop :)
[03:00] <hophop> :)
[03:01] <targetx> so.. anyone in for some ET ?
[03:01] <jc-denton> can i get newer versions of some packages especially mono
[03:01] <jc-denton> for breezy
[03:01] <barongas> targetx, Well I always liked tactical games, weird and/or silly games more than fast-paced shooters
[03:01] <corincole> ive got to go now, thoreauputic, if you remember anything, could you please email me at corincole@gmail.com   :)
[03:01] <corincole> man, smiley faces look nice here
[03:01] <corincole> :D
[03:01] <targetx> barongas, Ok, then I just think that we have a completely different taste :-)
[03:01] <hophop> ps/2 optical mouse is supported by ubuntu?
[03:01] <corincole> -_-
[03:01] <corincole> |-)
[03:01] <thoreauputic> corincole: heh - OK :)
[03:01] <targetx> *(-_-)*
[03:01] <corincole> thanks
[03:01] <barongas> targetx, yup, seems so :)
[03:01] <corincole> ooh, ohh, targetx, im liking it!
[03:01] <corincole> ;)
[03:02] <BlackDalek> does anyone have a link where I can download a 32bit version of ubuntu live CD which will run on an AMD duron? I can only find 64bit and it won't run on my processor
[03:02] <targetx> hahaha
[03:02] <corincole> *(-_-)*
[03:02] <mustard5> hophop, yeah
[03:02] <[bw] 808y> hi
[03:02] <targetx> BlackDalek, just download the normal one for intel
[03:02] <corincole> oh, it doesnt working lol
[03:02] <[bw] 808y> what i have 2 do do update my warty to breezy
[03:02] <corincole> does anyone want to give me a free PC?
[03:02] <corincole> :)
[03:02] <thoreauputic> corincole:  bmv
[03:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> [bw] 808y: pray to your fav deity ;)
[03:02] <thoreauputic> oops
[03:02] <corincole> ?
[03:02] <corincole> bvm?
[03:02] <jc-denton> i need a newer mono version cos beagle does not build anymore with the old
[03:03] <hophop> mustard5 , my mouse absolutely dead! O_o
[03:03] <thoreauputic> corincole: xzgv
[03:03] <[bw] 808y> kaiser? what do y mean
[03:03] <thoreauputic> corincole: hahah
[03:03] <corincole> are you just typing random letters?
[03:03] <corincole> lol
[03:03] <conan> oi
[03:03] <thoreauputic> corincole: hold on
[03:03] <targetx> BlackDalek, "PC (Intel x86) install CD" You need that release
[03:03] <BlackDalek> ok thanks targetx. I think I got that version already somewhere.. I just thought this machine might not run it :)
[03:03] <thoreauputic> zgv
[03:03] <targetx> BlackDalek, no problem you're welcome
[03:03] <corincole> *(-_-)*
[03:03] <thoreauputic> that one is the one I think
[03:03] <targetx> hehe
[03:03] <corincole> sfg?
[03:03] <conan> oi
[03:03] <corincole> :P
[03:03] <targetx> corincole, that smiley is NOT GPL. You need to pay me money now
[03:03] <conan> oi
[03:03] <thoreauputic> corincole: zgv
[03:03] <corincole> lol
[03:03] <mustard5> hophop, I would be asking the channel if they know how to get a ps/2 optical mouse going on ubuntu
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> [bw] 808y: skipping a version can cause problems, especialy missing Hoary, but it sould work
[03:04] <thoreauputic> corincole: apt-cache show zgv
[03:04] <[bw] 808y> say me what i have 2 do
[03:04] <mustard5> hophop, I don't have a clue myself, but it shouldn't be a big issue
[03:04] <hophop> mustard5, this is problem: http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/7770
[03:04] <[bw] 808y> e.g i have my sourlce list with the new entries of hoary and breezy
[03:04] <corincole> thoreau
[03:05] <corincole> thoreauputic: it shows the actualy pic, like gui!
[03:05] <corincole> :o
[03:05] <corincole> how does it do that without gui?
[03:05] <thoreauputic> corincole: if you install zgv you will be able to view images in a tty
[03:05] <corincole> i did
[03:05] <corincole> ;)
[03:05] <thoreauputic> corincole: vga libs
[03:05] <corincole> ?
[03:05] <corincole> vga libs?
[03:05] <Danny|2> omg wth is going on.. i have deleted every single bloody libflashplayer.so thing that i could find and yet firefox is still reporting that it's using that plugin.. WHERE?!
[03:05] <mustard5> hophop, looking at it now....
[03:05] <thoreauputic> actually svga
[03:05] <corincole> what?
[03:05] <corincole> im getting confused...
[03:05] <mustard5> hophop, nothing there I get 404
[03:06] <corincole> so many random letters...
[03:06] <corincole> sdf
[03:06] <corincole> eeysa
[03:06] <thoreauputic> *sigh* look it up mate ;-)
[03:06] <corincole> hgf
[03:06] <corincole> sdsf
[03:06] <corincole> ?
[03:06] <conan> fgfd
[03:06] <thoreauputic> corincole: wtf
[03:06] <conan> dffg
[03:06] <corincole> *(-_-)*(
[03:06] <thoreauputic> ;)
[03:06] <conan> kf
[03:06] <thoreauputic> !wtf
[03:06] <corincole> lol
[03:06] <ubotu> wtf do you mean, thoreauputic ?
[03:06] <hophop> mustard5, refresh?
[03:06] <conan> T_T
[03:06] <thoreauputic> ;)
[03:06] <conan> T_T
[03:06] <corincole> ok, so what was it again?
[03:06] <targetx> Oooh.. running zgv in a xterm is not recommended *_*
[03:06] <mustard5> hophop, put the link up again
[03:06] <Kimppa> Hello. I'm having small problems after upgrading to breezy. Every time I open a screen, I get this error message "Could not write /var/run/utmp: No such process". It's on the monitor a split of a second and then the screen opens. Any idea how to fix this?
[03:06] <conan> T_T
[03:06] <corincole> no, what was the text editor first
[03:06] <conan> T_T
[03:06] <hophop> http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/7770
[03:06] <conan> T_T
[03:06] <conan> T_T
[03:06] <conan> T_T
[03:06] <conan> T_T
[03:07] <conan> T_T
[03:07] <conan> T_T
[03:07] <aeon17x> conan: we have flood control here.
[03:07] <avalost> conan: stop that shit you annoying wanker
[03:07] <targetx> BAN ?? :O
[03:07] <Seveas> that language is not tolerated in here
[03:07] <targetx> wow :) ok
[03:07] <targetx> rules should be enforced
[03:07] <haffe> I have a rather strange problem, I want to send a calendarfile to my cellphone. But the calendarfile seems to have an incorrect timezone. How do I remedy this?
[03:07] <corincole> thoreauputic: ure OP?
[03:07] <corincole> Seveas: hey
[03:07] <[bw] 808y> hey guy
[03:07] <targetx> corincole, no he just act's like that
[03:07] <thoreauputic> corincole: yes obviously :)
[03:07] <corincole> lol
[03:07] <targetx> corincole, lol
[03:07] <mustard5> hophop, its 404'ing sorry
[03:08] <thoreauputic> targetx: watch your step ;)
[03:08] <targetx> ;) just messing with ya and you know it
[03:08] <[bw] 808y> can some one tell me how can i get my warty 2 haoary upgradet
[03:08] <corincole> what was the text editor again?
[03:08] <thoreauputic> targetx: :D
[03:08] <corincole> i wrote it in a text file...
[03:08] <corincole> lol
[03:08] <mustard5> ubotu: tell hophop about pastebin
[03:08] <[bw] 808y> plz
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> !upgrade
[03:08] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:08] <[bw] 808y> thx
[03:08] <corincole> ?
[03:09] <blackcat> hi !
[03:09] <Torps> lo ppl
[03:09] <targetx> hi
[03:09] <jc-denton> so does anybody here know stuff about mono on breezy?
[03:09] <jc-denton> or shall i ask somewhere else
[03:09] <Torps> having trouble starting freenx server
[03:09] <Danny|2> anyone has a idea why flash is not working in firefox?
[03:09] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[03:09] <ubotu> methinks anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[03:09] <mustard5> jc-denton, I know nothing about it sorry
[03:10] <corincole> anyone? what command-line software for opening text files???
[03:10] <targetx> nano / joe / pico
[03:10] <Danny|2> i can see it under about:plugins .. and it says it's enabled :| but it's not working
[03:10] <thoreauputic> corincole: nano, vim, emacs....
[03:10] <thoreauputic> etc etc
[03:10] <corincole> thanks
[03:10] <corincole> ;)
[03:11] <golan> hi guys, a silly question: when you browse www.slashdot.org, do you see ads in english, or in italian?
[03:11] <Torps> i get mv: cannot stat '/.shh/.disabled': No such file or directory
[03:11] <thoreauputic> avalost: sending private notices to ops is not a good idea - why wou;d  you think I wouldn't back up Seveas ?
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> Torps: ssh
[03:11] <kirkland> I'm having problems with getting sound please help
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> not shh
[03:11] <avalost> it was a simple question
[03:11] <Torps> ja
[03:11] <Torps> sorry
[03:11] <Torps> ssh
[03:11] <Torps> typo
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[03:11] <delphiuk> hi, how can i find out where my dvdrom drive is? such as /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc
[03:11] <joe_b> hi guys, is there a meta-package for installing the base c++/c development tools in breezy?
[03:12] <pepino> where is ubuntu in spanish
[03:12] <pepino> ?
[03:12] <avalost> i've spent a heap of time here helping people, and to say one word and get banned really ticks me off
[03:12] <Seveas> !es
[03:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:12] <kirkland> Please may you help me get sound :(\
[03:12] <mustard5> delphiuk, /dev/cdrom ?
[03:12] <pepino> what is the server
[03:12] <pepino> ?
[03:12] <joe_b> delphiuk, have a look at the output of dmesg
[03:12] <corincole> ok, ive got to go, might not be  back for a few days, think of me visiting a windmill in Norfolk (UK, where i live), and a friends house in Cambridge
[03:12] <Seveas> this server pepino
[03:12] <corincole> c u all
[03:12] <thoreauputic> avalost: well, don't take it personally
[03:12] <delphiuk> mustard5: ah, yes, that did it :) thanks
[03:12] <chinagirl> HIHI
[03:12] <Torps> has any1 here got some experience with freenx?
[03:12] <barongas> golan, I see english ones
[03:12] <mustard5> delphiuk, np
[03:12] <thoreauputic> avalost: you notice the gag was removed
[03:13] <avalost> yes, I did
[03:13] <kirkland> how do I get sound???
[03:13] <golan> thanks barongas... it means that they localize ads... I'm curious how can they do that without overloading the machines...
[03:13] <chinagirl> here user china?
[03:13] <Seveas> Torps, wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[03:13] <slibs> how can i write to ntfs
[03:13] <hophop> mustard5 , ok, thanks
[03:13] <mustard5> slibs you cant
[03:13] <selinium> Hi all, I have initiated a download of an iso via ssh on a remote machine. If I close xterm here, will it stop the download on the remote machine. Should I have used screen?
[03:13] <golan> barongas: where are you from?
[03:13] <slibs> mustard5: your lying, i know i can somehow
[03:13] <targetx> selinium, you should have used screen
[03:13] <green-mouse> delphiuk, /dev/hda - first IDE controler  Master drive,  /dev/hdb - first IDE controler  Slave drive, /dev/hdc - second IDE controler  Master drive, /dev/hdd - second IDE controler  slave drive,
[03:13] <Seveas> slibs, boot into windows
[03:13] <Torps> Seveas, thanks but tried that cant get the breezy thing to work, so i downloaded the package from freenx site
[03:13] <avalost> selinium: yes it'll stop it
[03:14] <kirkland> How do I get SOUND
[03:14] <Seveas> then you can write to it
[03:14] <chinagirl> 
[03:14] <selinium> targetx, Thought as much! :)
[03:14] <joe_b> delphiuk, "dmesg | grep hd"
[03:14] <Seveas> Torps, that won't work on breezy
[03:14] <Torps> Cant get the server to start
[03:14] <targetx> selinium, you can abort the download and start a screen, then do: wget -c <link> and it will try to resume the file
[03:14] <Rockinrodent> greetings folks.
[03:14] <Seveas> Torps, the ones mentioned on the wiki work on breezy
[03:14] <slibs> Seveas: heh, i don't have windows installed :D
[03:14] <Seveas> slibs, then why do you have ntfs?
[03:14] <Rockinrodent> I could use some help.
[03:14] <slibs> but then again, can windows access to ext3?
[03:14] <tris622ph> how do i draw in Gtk project. is it the GtkGC (Gtk Graphics Context)?
[03:14] <Seveas> reformat it into ext3
[03:14] <slibs> Seveas: i haven't been able to convert it
[03:14] <hophop> mustard5, :P
[03:14] <Torps> Seveas, when i type sudo apt-get update
[03:14] <Torps> it fails
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> slibs: no it cant
[03:14] <Seveas> Torps, the nx server is not a daemon
[03:14] <slibs> since there's so much data
[03:15] <Seveas> Torps, put the complete error on the pastebin
[03:15] <kirkland> Please help me get sound
[03:15] <erUSUL> chinagirl, this an english chanel. do not know if there is a china equivalent in freenode
[03:15] <joe_b> is there a meta-package for installing the base c++/c development tools in breezy?
[03:15] <targetx> I'll be right back
[03:15] <aeon17x> kirkland: More details please.
[03:15] <Rockinrodent> I just burned the latest ubuntu live cd. it doesn't seem to like my optical mouse, or my usb wifi adapter. any suggestions?
[03:15] <slibs> i though there was some program which allowed to write in ntfs
[03:15] <Torps> Seveas, the freenx error?
[03:15] <Seveas> Torps, yes
[03:15] <Torps> ok
[03:15] <selinium> targetx, CHeers, there isn't an issue with leaving the xterm open this time. Just asked the question for future reference. Thanks! :)
[03:15] <darksatanic> slibs: captive, I think.
[03:15] <Torps> just need to move over to linux box
[03:15] <Seveas> slibs, paragon ntfs for linux, quite expensive
[03:15] <K-Rich> joe_b: build-essentials
[03:16] <joe_b> K-Rich: ta very much
[03:16] <kirkland> How can you get sound ???
[03:16] <bluefrog-10> slibs, captive ntfs
[03:16] <slibs> so they cost something
[03:16] <darksatanic> slibs: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[03:16] <mustard5> kirkland, what version of ubuntu?
[03:16] <slibs> bluefrog-10: thanks
[03:16] <selinium> kirkland, Your question isn't very helpful, do you have no sound at all? are you using breezy?
[03:16] <pepino> hola
[03:16] <pepino> hermanos
[03:16] <targetx> selinium, oke, no problem mate
[03:16] <kirkland> 5.10
[03:16] <selinium> kirkland do you have any sound?
[03:16] <Rockinrodent> my optical mouse isn't working on the live version....any suggestions?
[03:17] <bluefrog-10> kirkland, are us sing the install created user?
[03:17] <mustard5> kirkland what sound card?
[03:17] <chinagirl> thank you
[03:17] <kirkland> yes I am using the install created user
[03:17] <Torps> Seveas: must i paste the message in this channel?
[03:17] <thoreauputic> !pate
[03:17] <ubotu> thoreauputic: I give up, what is it?
[03:17] <thoreauputic> !!paste
[03:17] <ubotu> thoreauputic: Are you smoking crack?
[03:17] <bluefrog-10> kirkland, what says the sound applet when u bring the mouse over it?
[03:18] <green-mouse> Rockinrodent, what mouse usb ps2?
[03:18] <thoreauputic> hahah
[03:18] <Seveas> Torps, NO
[03:18] <Seveas> on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:18] <thoreauputic> I give up too
[03:18] <Torps> ok
[03:18] <Rockinrodent> ps2. it's a general electric. 2 button wheel mouse.
[03:18] <tris622ph> where is the common icon located in ubuntu?
[03:18] <Torps> Seveas, just saw something i missed, says http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl does not exist
[03:18] <Rockinrodent> the wheel seems to work, but not the pointer. the laser isn't coming on either.
[03:18] <kirkland> i don't think the sound card is installed but I have no idea how to install it (its meant for windows I think)
[03:18] <tris622ph> such as new, save, open icons
[03:19] <Torps> aggg
[03:19] <tris622ph> print etc
[03:19] <bluefrog-10> kirkland, what says the sound applet when u bring the mouse over it?
[03:19] <Torps> Seveas, just saw something i missed, says /usr/lib/nx/nxloadconfig does not exist
[03:19] <bluefrog-10> kirkland, rightclick on the applet and choose preferences
[03:19] <kirkland> sound applet? sorry I have never used linux before
[03:19] <kirkland> (first day)
[03:20] <bluefrog-10> kirkland, top right of the taskbar soud icon
[03:20] <aeon17x> kirkland: you have a lot of reading to do.
[03:20] <aeon17x> kirkland: that's for sure.
[03:20] <thoreauputic> kirkland: the little loud speaker thing :)
[03:20] <Seveas> Torps, you need the nxlibs...
[03:20] <miked> hello i have a problem with xmms
[03:20] <Seveas> that's why you should use packages, the dependency system solves that
[03:20] <miked> it just freezes when i try to play an mp3
[03:20] <kirkland> ya i've got to preferences now what?
[03:20] <mustard5> miked it locks up when you play?
[03:20] <mustard5> thought so :)
[03:20] <miked> yes
[03:20] <miked> it freezes
[03:20] <bluefrog-10> kirkland, what's the selected device?
[03:20] <green-mouse> Rockinrodent, send to me output from cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:20] <mustard5> umm...trying to remember what fixes it :)
[03:20] <thoreauputic> miked:  options- preferences set the output to esound
[03:21] <miked> oh and i cant close it :D
[03:21] <kirkland> hda inter (Alsa Mixer)
[03:21] <thoreauputic> miked: the output plugin
[03:21] <targetx> miked, xkill
[03:21] <Rockinrodent> green-mouse:you lost me there...i'm using the live version of ubuntu
[03:21] <mustard5> miked keep clicking the kill button ;)
[03:21] <bluefrog-10> kirkland, what's the selected track just underneath?
[03:21] <thoreauputic> miked: or killall xmms in  terminal
[03:21] <targetx> thoreauputic, is that correct.. calling killall without the '-9' flag?
[03:22] <kirkland> PCM
[03:22] <thoreauputic> targetx: sure
[03:22] <targetx> it defaults to -9 ?
[03:22] <thoreauputic> targetx: -9 is not necessary usually
[03:22] <bluefrog-10> kirkland, not muted i ssume
[03:22] <targetx> thoreauputic, ah oke.. thanks for the info
[03:22] <kirkland> nope its not muted :)
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaise1> default is 15
[03:22] <mustard5> kirkland, try to type the persons name you are talking at the start of your text
[03:22] <miked> erm after i killed it i cant launch it :P
[03:22] <skullzBOFH> hi
[03:22] <bluefrog-10> kirkland, any other device u can choose form the drop down menu?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> targetx: pkill xmms  is another way
[03:23] <Rockinrodent> I also don't think my usb wifi adapter is working with it either.
[03:23] <miked> i dit xkill
[03:23] <miked> did"
[03:23] <targetx> what would be the difference between a killall -9, a normal killall and a pkill ?
[03:23] <kirkland> Pc Speaker, Capture and Capture 1
[03:23] <targetx> ( @ thoreauputic )
[03:23] <thoreauputic> miked: do  killall xmms
[03:23] <bluefrog-10> kirkland, any other device u can choose form the drop down menu of device
[03:23] <thoreauputic> targetx: pkill finds the process for you and kills it
[03:23] <green-mouse> Rockinrodent, and what? U must have whis file
[03:23] <targetx> thoreauputic, so does killall ..?
[03:24] <kirkland> yes Pc Speaker, Capture and Capture 1
[03:24] <thoreauputic> targetx: for the rest you need  "man signal" ;P
[03:24] <Rockinrodent> green-mouse>where would this file be?
[03:24] <miked> i dont have esound in output
[03:24] <targetx> thoreauputic, i'll read up on it!
[03:24] <mustard5> thoreauputic, I reckon the madly click on kill button method is best :D
[03:24] <rsosborn> Hello all
[03:24] <thoreauputic> mustard5: more fun but slower ;)
[03:24] <joe_b> targetx: a 9 (KILL) signal cannot be ignored by the process whereas as a 15 (TERM) can, i think
[03:24] <rsosborn> got a dumb question cause I'm a noob
[03:25] <green-mouse> Rockinrodent, just run terminal and type "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[03:25] <thoreauputic> miked: yes you do
[03:25] <joe_b> targetx: so killall asks nicely
[03:25] <targetx> joe_b, ahh interesting. I really find this interesting lol.. I'm reading man signal as of now
[03:25] <rsosborn> I'm trying to set up a apache web server
[03:25] <mustard5> rsosborn, I like easy questions
[03:25] <joe_b> targetx: so killall -9 tells it :)
[03:25] <targetx> joe_b, like a SIG TERM and a SIG KILL ?
[03:25] <miked> im in audio i/o plugins
[03:25] <thoreauputic> miked: at the bottom, on th eoptions-preferences
[03:25] <miked> cant see esound
[03:25] <rsosborn> andI'm trying to stick my html files in www/apach default
[03:25] <joe_b> targetx: yup
[03:25] <rsosborn> but it says I don't have premission
[03:25] <defcon8> rsosborn, /var/www
[03:25] <targetx> joe_b, thanks for your help!
[03:25] <thoreauputic> miked: output plugin
[03:25] <rsosborn> its strange cause I'm the only user for this box
[03:26] <rsosborn> and when I right click on the folder all th options are grayed out
[03:26] <rsosborn> on premessions
[03:26] <rsosborn> any idea ?
[03:26] <jenda> rsosborn: did you try sudo?
[03:26] <defcon8> /var/www
[03:26] <rsosborn> no
[03:26] <mustard5> you on breezy?
[03:26] <rsosborn> not an experient in the terminal
[03:26] <mustard5> rsosborn, you on breezy?
[03:26] <thoreauputic> miked: this is *in* xmms - not in the general settings for gnome
[03:26] <rsosborn> no ubuntu horay I think
[03:27] <mustard5> rsosborn, bummer...their is a help menu in breezy to get root in nautilus
[03:27] <miked> yes :)
[03:27] <Rockinrodent> green-mouse:how do I run a program if the mouse isn't working...or do you mean something I run from the boot prompt?
[03:27] <rsosborn> hmmm
[03:27] <rsosborn> I might have to try it next time
[03:27] <miked> i have mpeg 1/2/3 ogg vorbis tone generator
[03:27] <rsosborn> where do can Idownload it
[03:27] <miked> but no esound
[03:27] <thoreauputic> miked: you are looking at the wrong dialogue
[03:28] <miked> ok i found it :P
[03:28] <thoreauputic> miked: it's at the bottom in options- preferences from memory
[03:28] <mustard5> rsosborn, don't worry about that option...its a bit much to go just to get this task done
[03:28] <miked> ^^
[03:28] <miked> yes
[03:28] <miked> found it
[03:28] <green-mouse> Rockinrodent, from where u typing now?
[03:28] <rsosborn> aight cool man
[03:28] <Rockinrodent> an irc prg running under xp.
[03:28] <rsosborn> ya I'm still a noob so maybe that can come laterz
[03:28] <mustard5> rsosborn, you don't like terminal I take it?
[03:28] <rsosborn> lol
[03:28] <defcon8> i love terminal
[03:29] <rsosborn> I don't dislike it
[03:29] <rsosborn> I just not very good in it yet
[03:29] <defcon8> i actually use the terminal for 80 percent of what i do
[03:29] <mustard5> well you could use the cp command to overcome this problem :)
[03:29] <miked> thoreauputic thanks
[03:29] <rsosborn> all I can do in it is write little silly c++ programs from my school
[03:29] <defcon8> file managing and everything really
[03:29] <thoreauputic> miked: working now ?
[03:29] <miked> yes
[03:29] <rsosborn> how do I see a list of commands
[03:29] <thoreauputic> ah good :)
[03:29] <defcon8> rsosborn, LOL
[03:29] <defcon8> rsosborn, press tab twice
[03:30] <defcon8> see what happens
[03:30] <mustard5> rsosborn, type man cp in terminal
[03:30] <thoreauputic> rsosborn: type  man intro
[03:30] <Seveas> rsosborn, www.linuxcommand.org
[03:30] <miked> thoreauputic i need something like total commander for linux
[03:30] <rsosborn> cool
[03:30] <defcon8> miked, mc
[03:30] <rsosborn> awesome
[03:30] <K-Rich> Can I get someone to paste the contents of a few directories for me, i think i borked my init scripts in /etc/rc0.d /etc/rcS.d and /etc/rc2.d while trying to speed up boot and shutdown
[03:30] <rsosborn> thanks guys
[03:30] <Seveas> miked, mc
[03:30] <defcon8> midnight commander
[03:30] <defcon8> i dont really use mc either
[03:30] <miked> is it in synaptic?
[03:30] <targetx> I personally hate it ..
[03:30] <defcon8> find just plain terminal to be much faster
[03:30] <thoreauputic> miked: I don't know total commander - there's a cli file app called mc - midnight commander
[03:30] <defcon8> yes miked
[03:31] <miked> in which category?
[03:31] <targetx> what was the flag to /exec to make it echo it into the irc channel ?
[03:31] <thoreauputic> miked: look for "mc"
[03:31] <Seveas> K-Rich, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3735
[03:31] <K-Rich> thanks Seveas
[03:31] <thoreauputic> miked: type "mc" in the search field
[03:31] <Seveas> targetx, that flag is evil
[03:31] <miked> ok
[03:31] <Seveas> and don't use it in here
[03:31] <Seveas> (it's -o)
[03:31] <targetx> Seveas, thanks! (I don't use it, I just wanted to know)
[03:31] <miked> does it have ftp support ?
[03:32] <Seveas> miked, yes
[03:32] <Seveas> ftp and ssh
[03:32] <thoreauputic> Seveas: useful in #flood :)
[03:32] <miked> now about breezy
[03:32] <K-Rich> Seveas: that's breezy right?
[03:32] <miked> im updating my linux now
[03:32] <miked> thru automatic update
[03:32] <Seveas> K-Rich, yes
[03:32] <targetx> what would a /exec -o cat /dev/urandom have for effect ? :)
[03:32] <miked> is it gonna upgrade to breezy?
[03:32] <Torps> Seveas, can i ask a quick question, cause i got the freenx server started
[03:32] <rsosborn> okay I found the files in terminal for default
[03:32] <rsosborn> how to I deleted them all
[03:32] <targetx> cause that commend clearly never terminates.. so will it hang your xchat ?
[03:32] <thoreauputic> targetx: don't even think about it ;)
[03:32] <rsosborn> is there a comman in terminal for deletting files
[03:32] <green-mouse> Rockinrodent, sorry but I don`t have any Idea, I must see what system say about u mouse... And I don`t know about thist secific problem... Try to search in ubuntu web site...
[03:33] <K-Rich> Seveas: thanks just making sure :)
[03:33] <targetx> thoreauputic, let me try it in #gentoo.. PLEASE? :D
[03:33] <joe_b> rsosborn: rm
[03:33] <thoreauputic> :|
[03:33] <defcon8> miked, why dont you just go to the page of mc and look at its features?
[03:33] <miked> its ok with mc
[03:33] <miked> i trust u guys :p
[03:34] <Rockinrodent> green-mouse:ok, thanks...one more thing, do you (or anyone else) know if usb wifi devices are supported?
[03:34] <miked> now about breezy
[03:34] <miked> im doing automatic update now
[03:34] <thoreauputic> targetx: I suspect you would get cut off from the network in a flash
[03:34] <Torps> does ubuntu use gnome or kde by default ?
[03:34] <miked> is it gonna upgrade to breezy?
[03:34] <joe_b> Torps: gnmoe
[03:34] <targetx> thoreauputic, think so too
[03:34] <rsosborn> okay rm seems to work to delete how to a list mulitple files to delete ?
[03:34] <joe_b> Torps: their is a kubuntu which is developed for KDE
[03:34] <targetx> then they either have to be in a directory and you want to delete all: rm *
[03:35] <delphiuk> Torps: gnome
[03:35] <targetx> or they have to all start / end with the same phrase: rm *.exe / rm filename-0*
[03:35] <Torps> joe_b, thanks
[03:35] <rsosborn> that makes sense
[03:35] <defcon8> joe_b, s/their/there
[03:35] <joe_b> defcon8: :)
[03:35] <targetx> lol.. allways the seds to replace typo's.. geeks ;)
[03:35] <defcon8> :D
[03:35] <miked> i also have a problem in device manager
[03:35] <Torps> does any1 know how to use vnc with freenx from a windows machine to a linux box?
[03:36] <defcon8> s/allways/always :D
[03:36] <thoreauputic> targetx: misuse of apostrophe there in your last post ;)
[03:36] <joe_b> you dont expect me to sort out problems and spell correctly do you?
[03:36] <miked> the processor video card etc  shows as unkwon
[03:36] <defcon8> miked, cd /dev && ls
[03:36] <targetx> lol
[03:36] <defcon8> joe_b, well yeah :p
[03:36] <erUSUL> someone knows where to find kernel incremental patches. The like to go 2.6.14-rc5 --> 2.6.14
[03:36] <joe_b> defcon8: oh ye gods, I could be in trouble then
[03:36] <miked> and i installed linux core for k7
[03:37] <targetx> erUSUL, www.kernel.org perhaps ?
[03:37] <thoreauputic> OK enough IRC for one day - goodnight all
[03:37] <defcon8> bye
[03:37] <targetx> bye thoreauputic
[03:37] <miked> lol
[03:37] <miked> here is 16:00 :P
[03:37] <targetx> goodnight btw? its
[03:38] <targetx> Fri Oct 28 15:38:00 CEST 2005
[03:38] <miked> goodnight :P
[03:38] <targetx> lol ok.. goodnight hehe
[03:38] <defcon8> targetx, it is called living in a different time zone
[03:38] <targetx> defcon8, I know, but what timezone has night now ?
[03:38] <defcon8> actually where do you live thoreauputic?
[03:38] <erUSUL> targetx, no luck there you find patchs of 4MB at a time 2.6.13 --> 2.614 :(
[03:38] <miked> defcon why does my processor show as unkwon in device manager?
[03:38] <targetx> erUSUL, oh sorry
[03:38] <defcon8> places in asia i guess
[03:38] <defcon8> like singapore and stuff
[03:39] <defcon8> >thoreauputic_< CTCP TIME
[03:39] <defcon8> -thoreauputic_- TIME Fri Oct 28 23:39:07 2005
[03:39] <targetx> neat :D
[03:39] <sexcopter8000m> hi, does anyone know about mldonkey? i want to try it, have installed packages "mldonkey-server" and "mldonkey-gui" and can't get any further :s
[03:39] <defcon8> sexcopter8000m, yes
[03:39] <thoreauputic_> hmm I'm not quite gone yet
[03:39] <defcon8> sexcopter8000m, install kmldonkey aswell for your gui
[03:39] <thoreauputic_> ;)
[03:39] <defcon8> it is better than mlgui
[03:39] <miked> in device manager all things show as unkwon execept for the nforce2 drivers
[03:40] <sexcopter8000m> ok defcon8
[03:40] <defcon8> but if you want mldonkey-gui use mlgui as the command
[03:40] <GhostWarr1or> i prefer amule
[03:40] <defcon8> why GhostWarr1or ?
[03:40] <GhostWarr1or> isn like emule
[03:40] <sexcopter8000m> amule is what i'm used to, GhostWarr1or, just feel i should try mldonkey ;)
[03:40] <mannyman> is there a firewall for Linux that prompts you with friendly prompts like zonealarm in Windows?
[03:40] <defcon8> what do you think is better about amule?
[03:40] <GhostWarr1or> ok
[03:40] <defcon8> mannyman, :D
[03:40] <defcon8> you want to use linux like your use windows
[03:40] <GhostWarr1or> i gont think is better
[03:40] <GaryAlex> hi if anyone can help me with an issue with 5.10 ... I can't find kernel-source package to install software ... not sure what i'm doing wrong ... please privmsg me thx
[03:41] <miked> do i need a firewall or antivirus for linux?
[03:41] <defcon8> try out firestarter. i think tyhats the easiest firewall configuration youll get
[03:41] <targetx> mannyman, if any, firestarter
[03:41] <GhostWarr1or> but i think its easyest
[03:41] <targetx> miked, no
[03:41] <defcon8> use snort for notifications of intrusion though
[03:41] <targetx> miked, unless you start running services
[03:41] <mannyman> thanks all
[03:41] <nekostar> cyall after work
[03:41] <defcon8> miked, there is no such thing as viruses on linux
[03:41] <miked> what do you mean by services?
[03:41] <sexcopter8000m> defcon8, ok, have installed kmldonkey, now how do i launch it?
[03:42] <defcon8> like web servers
[03:42] <rsosborn> Okay another dumb question
[03:42] <targetx> miked, like a ftp server / web server
[03:42] <targetx> rsosborn, shoot!
[03:42] <defcon8> sexcopter8000m, kmldonkey in the terminal
[03:42] <rsosborn> how to a move a file from terminal
[03:42] <miked> aha i wont do that :)
[03:42] <rsosborn> lol
[03:42] <targetx> mv <source> <destination>
[03:42] <defcon8> rsosborn, man mv
[03:42] <rsosborn> got it
[03:42] <rsosborn> cool
[03:42] <defcon8> but be careful
[03:42] <defcon8> it will overwrite if there is already a fiel with the name you want to move to
[03:42] <joe_b> defcon8: there have been virii for linux
[03:42] <miked> now can someone pls help me --->  in device manager all the devices show as unknown except for the nforce2 drivers that work !
[03:43] <defcon8> joe_b, man that isnt english, it is latin
[03:43] <defcon8> but i guess there are root kits and stuff
[03:43] <joe_b> defcon8: there have been viruses for linux :P
[03:43] <Juhaz> it's not latin either
[03:43] <stimpie> how do I give a user rights to access usb storage devices? In user priviliges I enabled "automatic acccess to external storage devices"?
[03:43] <defcon8> you still have to get shell access dont you
[03:43] <defcon8> Juhaz, what is it? bastardisation of the english language?
[03:44] <Juhaz> probably something someone who knew a bit of latin but not enough made up
[03:44] <mannyman> ok, what about a friendly anti-virus?
[03:44] <defcon8> yeah
[03:44] <defcon8> its like half latin half english
[03:44] <miked> defcon ! :)
[03:44] <defcon8> it is lame
[03:44] <miked> now can someone pls help me --->  in device manager all the devices show as unknown except for the nforce2 drivers that work !
[03:44] <targetx> mannyman, you don't need that on linux
[03:44] <targetx> miked, what do you mean ?? :D
[03:44] <defcon8> mannyman, the antivurses that you will find for linux are for mail servers and the like that will scan attachements for windows users
[03:44] <miked> if i highlight processor
[03:44] <targetx> miked, it shows up as unknown for me too, but don't trust that
[03:44] <mannyman> ok
[03:44] <bill> mike can you give more detail
[03:45] <miked> it says unknown
[03:45] <patter> friendly antivirus, what  could be easier than 'mount / -oremount,ro' ?
[03:45] <targetx> miked, the Vendor / Device etc is unknown for loads of stuff on my system too, except the nforce2
[03:45] <miked> memory too
[03:45] <targetx> patter, rofl!
[03:45] <miked> targetx  the same with me
[03:45] <targetx> miked, don't worry about that. It's not like on Windows. If it works fine (ea sound etc all works fine) and it doesn't show up in device manager; big deal :)
[03:45] <mustard5> miked, the point is that its nothing unusual
[03:45] <GaryAlex> so can anyone help me ... Trying to install modem drivers and its complaining that it needs the kernel source in /usr/src/linux and I can't find a kernel source package
[03:45] <miked> targetx  the only thing that shows is the nforce 2
[03:45] <targetx> miked, don't worry about it
[03:45] <rsosborn> sweet
[03:45] <rsosborn> got my first page up
[03:46] <mustard5> rsosborn, your a linux guru now ;)
[03:46] <miked> ok now how can i play quake 3&4 World of Warcraft and Counter-strike 1.6 in linux ? :)
[03:46] <rsosborn> lol
[03:46] <rsosborn> ha
[03:46] <targetx> miked, quake3 & 4 yes
[03:46] <miked> i saw the wine utilities in cross platform
[03:46] <rsosborn> ya I have only install it for one week
[03:46] <bill> brb gotta restart xfce
[03:46] <rsosborn> never used linux in my life
[03:46] <targetx> miked, if you play WoW then I refuse to help you though
[03:46] <rsosborn> I think I'm doing good
[03:46] <miked> i play a little
[03:46] <targetx> rsosborn; as long as you WANT to learn everyone can learn linux
[03:46] <rsosborn> hahahhaa
[03:46] <rsosborn> lol
[03:46] <miked> like 10 hours in 15 days :)
[03:46] <rsosborn> its easy
[03:47] <rsosborn> just got to know the commands
[03:47] <rsosborn> hey does anyone know where I can get a guide on my how to configure my DNS ?
[03:47] <miked> i mean a total of 10 hours played in 15 days ...
[03:47] <targetx> miked, there's no excuse for playing lame games :)
[03:47] <joe_b> rsosborn: DNS server or client?
[03:47] <targetx> miked, and I don't think it works on linux
[03:47] <miked> i9 just tried it on taiwan beta
[03:47] <rsosborn> well know
[03:47] <defcon8> miked, get winex
[03:47] <rsosborn> I want my ip pointed to my web page
[03:47] <defcon8> from cvs
[03:48] <targetx> miked, Quake 3 & 4 do though. Just like Doom 3 and Wolfenstein ET
[03:48] <rsosborn> does that happen automatically ?
[03:48] <defcon8> winex from cvs wont compile on ubuntu actually, can anyone help?
[03:48] <moot> can anyone suggest a utility to convert text files into html?
[03:48] <targetx> rsosborn, are you being a router ?
[03:48] <miked> targetx i have the windows version of q3 and 4
[03:48] <miked> targetx with exe
[03:48] <defcon8> moot, what kind of text files?
[03:48] <sexcopter8000m> defcon8, i get an error "Connection to the core was refused. Are you sure it is running?"
[03:48] <targetx> miked, you can install it using Linux Binaries and use the windows data files
[03:48] <moot> defcon8, simple text files
[03:48] <rsosborn> na I'm straight into the modem right  now
[03:48] <sexcopter8000m> defcon8, and i pointed it to the mlnet file in the setup
[03:48] <rsosborn> I'm just doing some testing
[03:48] <defcon8> sexcopter8000m, sorry, run mlnet first
[03:48] <rsosborn> just so I can learn
[03:48] <rsosborn> I don't even have a static ip
[03:48] <moot> defcon8, specifically, a text file with 3 colums of data
[03:48] <targetx> rsosborn, then your www.whatismyip.com IP will point directly to your pc, and it will also point to whatever you run at it.
[03:48] <miked> i had cedega 4.4.1 and point2play
[03:49] <miked> but i dont know how to install them manually :)
[03:49] <defcon8> sexcopter8000m, and when configging kmldonkey you can find the path of mlnet with ' whereis mlnet ' in the terminal
[03:49] <sexcopter8000m> defcon8, ah, ok :)
[03:49] <defcon8> sexcopter8000m, without the ' s
[03:49] <rsosborn> what is the command in terminal to view my ip
[03:49] <targetx> rsosborn, I suggest www.dyndns.org for a static hostname mapped to your dynamic IP. (Oh and please type the person's name your saying something to, before the msg.. makes it easier to read)
[03:49] <moot> rsosborn, ifconfig
[03:49] <defcon8> moot, you can do that in python and perl and stuff i think, dunnohow
[03:49] <defcon8> rsosborn, ifconfig
[03:49] <sexcopter8000m> defcon8, it's ok i found mlnet ok, but i use slocate to find stuff. what's the difference with whereis?
[03:49] <defcon8> moot, damn you are the first person to beat me today :p
[03:49] <targetx> rsosborn, http://adsl-66-141-170-221.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net/ <-- working!
[03:49] <rsosborn> targetx: my bad but thank you for your help
[03:50] <moot> defcon8, don't know of a simple utility?
[03:50] <miked> targetx and i dont know how to install or use the linux binaries
[03:50] <defcon8> sexcopter8000m, i dunno i have always used whereis. finds stuff real quick
[03:50] <targetx> rsosborn, but your documentroot is invalid
[03:50] <targetx> rsosborn, (one directory too low)
[03:50] <defcon8> sexcopter8000m, it looks in the binary path, doesnt actually search for it
[03:50] <targetx> miked, just google for Quake 4 installer for linux
[03:50] <joe_b> rsosborn: yours is 66.141.170.221
[03:50] <defcon8> moot, no sorry, apt-cache search text html maybe?
[03:50] <targetx> miked, they will explain how it works
[03:50] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> ifconfig
[03:50] <xet7> How can I get apt-get/synaptic to ignore "broken" updated skype deb package? It installed ok, but apt-get wants to remove it.
[03:50] <miked> aha
[03:50] <ubuntu> where can i find support for wireless connectivity for linux?
[03:50] <joe_b> rsosborn: its in you domain name
[03:50] <moot> defcon8, yeah... suppose i'll try that
[03:50] <miked> wow
[03:51] <targetx> we should be able to > /dev/null 2>&1 those removes ban messages :)
[03:51] <defcon8> automated
[03:51] <Seveas> targetx, yeah
[03:51] <rsosborn> only shit
[03:51] <miked> ok im going on google to culture myself about linux :P
[03:51] <mustard5> xet7, are you trying to install something and it wants to remove it?
[03:51] <rsosborn> targettx: this is working
[03:51] <targetx> Whats this channels stance on Illegal Software for personal (educational) use ?
[03:51] <sexcopter8000m> defcon8, can kmldonkey connect to soulseek?
[03:52] <joe_b> rsosborn: blue test page? :)
[03:52] <moot> targetx, education does not validate illegality
[03:52] <targetx> rsosborn, you need to configure your document root
[03:52] <K-Rich> hmmmmmmm
[03:52] <rsosborn> targettx: did I put it in the wrong place ? the index file ?
[03:52] <xet7> mustard5: yes, installing skype_1.2.0.18.deb that has security fix
[03:52] <targetx> moot, but for example: My school FORCES me to use windows software for some stuff, and I don't have the money to buy a windows license. When I install Windows just to run those few apps, is that illegal ?
[03:52] <miked> targetx one more thing    where can i set the settings for my nvidia card? like refresh rate overrides vertical sync, etc
[03:52] <joe_b> rsosborn: you could just put it in /var/www
[03:53] <defcon8> sexcopter8000m, no, but mldonkey can and kmldonkey happens to be a mldonkey client :D
[03:53] <rsosborn> joe_b
[03:53] <targetx> rsosborn, I think so, your website is now pointing to the folder: apache2-default (check it yourself at http://adsl-66-141-170-221.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net/)
[03:53] <targetx> miked, apt-get install nvidia-settings
[03:53] <targetx> then run nvidia-settings
[03:53] <xet7> mustard5: it installed and works ok, but apt-get complains about broken package
[03:53] <patter> thats not documentroot, it'll be a redirectmatch
[03:53] <targetx> miked, be sure you have the nvidia drivers installed though (and refresh rate should be configured in /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[03:53] <rsosborn> tartetx: I will do that, hey what part of texas are you from
[03:53] <rsosborn> I'm in Keller
[03:53] <targetx> patter, oh yeah im sorry :)
[03:53] <sexcopter8000m> defcon8, that's what i meant :P so do you know how i can do this? do i have to find the soulseek server address(es) and just add them?
[03:53] <tsw> targetx: You should ask your school for a license
[03:53] <targetx> rsosborn, not texas lol
[03:53] <rsosborn> lol
[03:53] <moot> targetx, no... that's why they have academic licensing
[03:54] <targetx> tsw, they will never do that cause 'only windows is supported'
[03:54] <moot> and computer labs
[03:54] <rsosborn> targetx; my bad
[03:54] <miked> targetx does ubuntu install the drivers automatically
[03:54] <miked> targetx?
[03:54] <targetx> rsosborn, np :P I'm from the netherlands
[03:54] <thirso> what could cause a recently installed kernel to fail to start X ?
[03:54] <targetx> miked, no
[03:54] <defcon8> sexcopter8000m, no you dont. it will find them for you. just enable soulseek from the settings
[03:54] <tsw> targetx: I have Windows XP lisense and Server 2003 lisense plus tens of Programming software from school
[03:54] <targetx> thirso, a couple of million reasons I think
[03:54] <rsosborn> targetx: let me move this index in www/ and see what happens
[03:54] <tsw> I just cant use it for real programming
[03:54] <miked> targetx command pls to get drivers
[03:54] <targetx> tsw, neat :) Unfortunately my school doesn't do that.. :(
[03:54] <rsosborn> brb
[03:54] <march> hi@all
[03:54] <thirso> targetx. make me a list
[03:54] <mustard5> xet7, do you still have the skype repo enabled in synaptic?  is that how you installed it?
[03:54] <targetx> miked, dunno, run synaptic package manager and search for nvidia
[03:54] <tsw> targetx: they should :) just ask again and again until they will
[03:54] <sexcopter8000m> defcon8, ah, found it, cheers :)
[03:54] <targetx> thirso, list for what ?
[03:54] <joe_b> thirso: have a look int /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:55] <miked> ok
[03:55] <targetx> tsw, I might do that then.. I do prefer to run things legally
[03:55] <xet7> mustard5: no, I installed deb. Where is skype repo?
[03:55] <targetx> but I'm not paying 90$ for a windows OS i'll never use
[03:55] <mustard5> xet7, nevermind then :)
[03:55] <ghb> Is gcc installed by default on ubuntu?
[03:55] <marcin> hi guys
[03:55] <moot> targetx, stealing software isn't right... but it does have to be done sometimes. However, during those times it's best to keep quiet about it.
[03:55] <joe_b> thirso: anything with (EE) at the start
[03:55] <defcon8> no ghb
[03:55] <marcin> got a question about apache2 configuration
[03:55] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> ghb, no, install build-essential first
[03:55] <trappist> when does it have to be done?
[03:55] <defcon8> ghb, i think apt-get install build-essential
[03:55] <targetx> moo, I am not stating I'm using illegal software, I'm just asking your guys opinion :)
[03:55] <tsw> targetx: so do I. At first they didnt like the idea, but I asked again and again and now its a normal practise
[03:55] <mustard5> xet7, I'm wondering whether its the libqt3cxxx.mt package
[03:56] <ghb> defcon8: Thanks, will try that.
[03:56] <DShepherd> kdeprinter is in my start menu, but not my synaptic. I cant apt-get remove it either. any ideas to get rid of it??
[03:56] <targetx> tsw, nice!
[03:56] <defcon8> mustard5, is it skype?
[03:56] <rsosborn> joe_b and targetx: try hitting my site at root now
[03:56] <mustard5> defcon8, yes
[03:56] <marcin> I would like to set up apache2 to have access and run some website that I develop in my /home workspace
[03:56] <defcon8> mustard5, search wiki.ubuntu.org for skype. itll tell you how to sorrt that prob out
[03:56] <joe_b> rsosborn: sorted :)
[03:56] <defcon8> sort*
[03:56] <targetx> tsw, moot: I have a Windows XP Profesional license for Windows XP on my laptop, when I run it on my main box with the same key (i never use them at the same time) is that legal?
[03:56] <targetx> rsosborn, workin!
[03:56] <thirso> joe_b. no EE, just WW
[03:56] <rsosborn> snap
[03:56] <defcon8> it works for me fine after reading that page
[03:56] <targetx> though the blue background is pretty _wrong_
[03:56] <xet7> mustard5: yes, it doesn't find it, but libqt3-mt package replaces it and it still works ok
[03:56] <rsosborn> joe_b and targetx: Thank You both
[03:56] <rsosborn> I'm done for the day
[03:57] <thirso> joe_b. but that log is for the kernel im using and working
[03:57] <rsosborn> and I get it now duhhhh TARGET   X
[03:57] <rsosborn> lol
[03:57] <rsosborn> ha
[03:57] <defcon8> bye rsosborn
[03:57] <rsosborn> laterz
[03:57] <targetx> rsosborn, np!
[03:57] <mustard5> xet7, defcon8 reckons we can find a solution in the wiki...one tick
[03:57] <marcin> so I added /home/myusername/workspace/siteiworkon dir to /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[03:57] <ghb> defcon8: Umm... I'm getting some weird errors... =(
[03:57] <tsw> targetx: I really dont know much about windows lisensing.. but my guess is it is illegal
[03:57] <moot> targetx, I think the EULA says it is -illegal- to use the same key on multiple machines
[03:57] <defcon8> mustard5, naah i know. dont it myself :)
[03:57] <defcon8> done*
[03:57] <marcin> but I get 403 forbidden when trying to run this website on localhost
[03:57] <marcin> any help?
[03:57] <targetx> moot, but I never use them at the same time!!
[03:57] <defcon8> ghb, what like?
[03:57] <moot> it's not a matter of time
[03:57] <moot> it's location
[03:58] <patter> marcin: the apache error.log will tell you why
[03:58] <targetx> that would be lame licensing imho :) I do own the code and I use the same product just on different machines. I'm the only user at any given time.. odd licensing :(
[03:58] <Seveas> I do own the code <-- no you don't
[03:58] <thirso> joe_b. found it, wow thats a bunch of EE
[03:58] <targetx> tsw, moot thanks for your opinions on this
[03:58] <joe_b> thirso: :)
[03:58] <Seveas> you own a license to use it on one virtual cpu
[03:58] <targetx> Seveas, virtual ?
[03:58] <Seveas> (Yes, MS licensing is getting suckier)
[03:58] <joe_b> thirso: anything stand out?
[03:58] <ghb> defcon8: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:58] <ghb> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:58] <targetx> Seveas, hehe
[03:59] <thirso> joe_b. (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[03:59] <defcon8> ghb, turn of synaptic and other package managers
[03:59] <thirso> joe_b. then it aborts
[03:59] <Seveas> targetx, for HT (2 cpus) to be used, you need an SMP license
[03:59] <mustard5> xet7, check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype?highlight=%28skype%29
[03:59] <defcon8> ghb, and do this as root
[03:59] <targetx> Seveas, you're kidding right?
[03:59] <DShepherd> neva mind I figured it out
[03:59] <ghb> defcon8: Oh yeah... Forgot I had synaptic up... =)
[03:59] <joe_b> thirso: try 'sudo modprobe nvdia'
[03:59] <Seveas> targetx, no
[03:59] <targetx> Seveas, that would be so incredibly lame lol
[03:59] <targetx> Seveas, but that *IS* one CPU
[03:59] <marcin> patter: well I know why but I don't know how to avoid this
[03:59] <Seveas> targetx, that's just the *start* of the MS licensing lameness
[03:59] <ghb> defcon8: Damn. It says it can
[03:59] <defcon8> sorry?
[04:00] <thirso> joe_b. if that doenst work should i apt-get remove the nvidia driver?
[04:00] <marcin> patter: /var/log/apache2/error.log says that Permission denied
[04:00] <targetx> bah.. I hope google will show their balls some day by buying MS :P That would be incredible
[04:00] <ghb> defcon8: It can't stat source package ... lots of them...
[04:00] <Seveas> ghb, apt-get update
[04:00] <defcon8> ghb, i dont know what you mean man
[04:00] <ghb> Seveas: Righto.
[04:00] <xet7> mustard5: thanks :)
[04:00] <funkyHat> targetx, hahaha
[04:00] <marcin> patter: question is - how to set permissions to my /home/myusername dir to get an access
[04:00] <joe_b> thirso: apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx
[04:00] <miked> targetx where do i set the refresh rate?  under Modes?
[04:01] <mustard5> thanks to defcon8 too ;)
[04:01] <miked> targetx in xconf
[04:01] <targetx> miked, you have to configure the correct Vertical / Horizontal Hz for your monitor
[04:01] <funkyHat> marcin, look in your apache config file, and find the group that apache is running as
[04:01] <defcon8> mustard5, np
[04:01] <targetx> miked, maybe someone else can help you, I'll be back in a couple of minutes...
[04:01] <joe_b> thirso: and make sure you have a line nvidia in you /etc/modules file
[04:01] <miked> targetx SubSection "Display"
[04:01] <miked> 		Depth		16
[04:01] <miked> 		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[04:01] <ghb> Seveas: Oh crap. Now I get a bunch of dependency errors... =(
[04:01] <marcin> funkyHat: and add myself to this group?
[04:01] <thirso> joe_b. yep, its there
[04:01] <funkyHat> marcin, then chown yourusername:thatgroup /home/yourusername
[04:02] <moot> defcon8, found something on google... text2html
[04:02] <K-Rich> cd aarrgghh
[04:02] <defcon8> moot, nice one
[04:02] <ghb> defcon8: I get dependency errors. =(
[04:02] <thirso> joe_b. k ill try that thanks
[04:02] <miked> how can i acces nvidia settings/
[04:02] <miked> ?
[04:03] <ghb> defcon8: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[04:03] <ghb>                             libc-dev
[04:03] <ghb>                    Depends: g++ (>= 3:3.3) but it is not going to be installed
[04:03] <targetx> I allready told you.. apt-get install nvidia-settings and then run nvidia-settings
[04:03] <K-Rich> i can't seem to get audacity to work on my box :/ and when i try the test button under Multimedia Systems Selector i get errors no matter what i so
[04:03] <miked> targetx i installed it
[04:03] <funkyHat> marcin, then change the permissions of that folder to allow the group read and execute access
[04:03] <defcon8> ghb, i dunno man sorry, you musta b0rked something
[04:03] <miked> targetx and the driver also
[04:03] <xet7> mustard5: but newest skype is skype_1.2.0.18.deb, not skype_1.2.0.17-1
[04:03] <ghb> defcon8: Oh ok. Thanks anyway.
[04:03] <ld> hi, I'd like to re-install the whole system. how do I do that ?
[04:03] <targetx> ld just boot from the cd and let the installer format everything
[04:04] <funkyHat> marcin, only allow the owner write access
[04:04] <ld> I mean I want, for every package currently installed, to re-install
[04:04] <ld> targetx: well, I was thinking of a less destructive way ;)
[04:04] <targetx> ld oh sorry.. cause you said 'the whole system'
[04:04] <mustard5> xet7, I'm not sure what the problem is with the new one xet7
[04:04] <ld> my fault :)
[04:04] <Danny|2> how can i find out which version of the nvidia driver I'm using?
[04:04] <mustard5> xet7, I'm still using the old one
[04:04] <targetx> if you want to preserve /home for example, then just chose to use that partition as /home during installation
[04:04] <miked> targetx run nvidia-settings    ----> command not found :)
[04:04] <ld> I know you can re-install a package... I want to re-install all currently install packages.
[04:04] <joe_b> ld: why?
[04:04] <targetx> ld, and format the other partitions according to your preference :)
[04:05] <marcin> funkyHat: thanks for hint
[04:05] <targetx> miked, apt-get install nvidia-settings
[04:05] <funkyHat> marcin, got it working?
[04:05] <marcin> funkyHat: unfortunately apache2 is runned by www-data user that belongs to root group
[04:05] <marcin> funkyHat: I'll try without chown
[04:05] <targetx> that a FEATURE... not unfortunately :)
[04:05] <K-Rich> figured out my error.... but it used to work right in hoary... but it's not working in breezy...
[04:05] <xet7> mustard5, newest one has the same problem, needs to be patched too
[04:05] <marcin> funkyHat: just a moment
[04:05] <ld> joe_b: because there was a problem with the drive... I don't know exactly what went wrong but things are not working as they should...
[04:05] <miked> ok i did it with run aplication :) but i cant override the refresh rates
[04:05] <funkyHat> marcin, does it not say group is www-data as well?
[04:05] <Seveas> xet7, working on it
[04:06] <targetx> miked, I allready told you that you need to do that in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.. are you reading my reactions or what ?
[04:06] <ld> that sounded newbie-ish
[04:06] <stimpie> someone knows how to change permissons of /media/usbdisk? In gnome permissions show user "fred"  "ls -al" shows user "bob"???
[04:06] <mustard5> xet7, I'd say we will have to wait till someone knowledgeable do so
[04:06] <marcin> funkyHat: no there is no such group
[04:06] <targetx> stimpie, maybe fred ownst the directory that it is mounted in, and the files ON the disk are owned by bob ?
[04:06] <miked> targetx
[04:06] <symbulos> hi there. do you know of anyone using / distributing ubuntu in Ethiopia?
[04:07] <miked> i in xorg.conf
[04:07] <miked> im in
[04:07] <mustard5> xet7, I'd say we will have to wait till someone knowledgeable does so
[04:07] <targetx> hi ScatterBrain!
[04:07] <Seveas> ghb, don't mix ubuntu and debian
[04:07] <K-Rich> Anyone know how to fix it when "Enable Sound Server Startup" is checked under Sound Preferences for it to allow Audacity to work?
[04:07] <miked> targetx but i cant seem to find what im looking for
[04:07] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Hey.
[04:07] <GURT> whats the best way to back up my home dir to another drive without having to deal with readonly errors and such?
[04:07] <ScatterBrain> targetx: You're up bright and early.
[04:07] <funkyHat> marcin, is that the default setup for apache on ubuntu (i don't know, i run apache on debian not on my desktop)
[04:07] <ghb> Seveas: ?
[04:07] <mustard5> xet7, keep an eye on the wiki page for updates
[04:07] <targetx> miked, HorzSync and VertRefresh
[04:07] <joe_b> ld: i think the fact that your not sure what went wrong would lead me to advise maybe starting again, can you be a bit more specific about the 'things are not working as they should' ?
[04:07] <targetx> ScatterBrain, not really...
[04:07] <targetx> Fri Oct 28 16:07:52 CEST 2005
[04:07] <ghb> Seveas: I just want to be able to run gcc... =(
[04:07] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Or did you even go to bed?
[04:07] <xet7> mustard5: thanks :)
[04:07] <K-Rich> i seem to have a choice between having system sounds and having the ability to record audio
[04:07] <stimpie> targetx, from the commandline "fred" owns everyting. Just not /media thats root
[04:08] <targetx> ScatterBrain, yeah I slept for 6 hours..
[04:08] <K-Rich> i'd like to have both
[04:08] <targetx> stimpie, I don't know then sorry.. you got me stumbled hehe
[04:08] <marcin> funkyHat: yes it's default setup
[04:08] <Seveas> ghb, put your sources.list on the pastebin
[04:08] <Seveas> pastebin is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:08] <miked> targetx ok i need to add that right ? cause it isnt added :)
[04:08] <targetx> miked, no it IS in there
[04:08] <targetx> in section "Monitor"
[04:09] <ld> joe_b: well, for example, when I start gnome, all my umm... applets are they called ? anyway, they all die besides the clock... my theme is not there anymore and a default theme is used instead... some manual pages are missing...
[04:09] <targetx> miked, but you probably don't know what to fill in annyway, so first thing to do is figure out the specs of your monitor
[04:09] <targetx> ld: apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop -f ?
[04:09] <Seveas> xet7, newer correct skype pacages can be found on seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:09] <symbulos> do you know of anyone using / distributing ubuntu in Ethiopia? do you know of anyone interested in Amharic ( eventually also Orominja / Tigrinja )localisation?
[04:09] <ld> joe_b: some perl packages are not there anymore, even though they show up as installed
[04:09] <GURT> hmm.. if i update to breezy, you think i'll lose my home dir?
[04:09] <linkd> GURT: no you wont
[04:09] <targetx> GURT, depends on the options you chose during formatting
[04:10] <targetx> * partitioning
[04:10] <GURT> i dont plan on doing any new partitioning
[04:10] <linkd> if its just a dist upgrade ull be find
[04:10] <linkd> then ull be fine
[04:10] <GURT> i just want ot update hoary to breezy
[04:10] <funkyHat> targetx, no it doesn't
[04:10] <mustard5> xet7, you get that?
[04:10] <ld> joe_b: and basically there seem to be a lot of files that just disappeared (could well be because I had a drive failure and I had to run fsck which found tons of errors and fixed them, but with losing lots of files too)
[04:10] <targetx> funkyHat, neat :)
[04:10] <joe_b> ld: try apt-get --reinstall dist-upgrade
[04:10] <joe_b> ld: although i have never done that myself
[04:10] <funkyHat> targetx, just change /etc/apt/sources.list and then update ;)
[04:10] <targetx> ld: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop -f
[04:10] <K-Rich> anyone know where the alsa.conf file was moved to in breezy?
[04:10] <targetx> funkyHat, ooh that is incredibly neat :-D
[04:11] <ghb> Seveas: What's the location of the source file?
[04:11] <targetx> funkyHat, Ubuntu get's better the more I know about it
[04:11] <Seveas> ghb, /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:11] <ld> targetx, joe_b: thanks :)
[04:11] <targetx> ld: no problem, hope you get it fixed
[04:11] <ld> I'll let you know :)
[04:13] <ld> how do I find out info about an installed package ? (info = a description)
[04:13] <ld> (or what man page should I read for that ?)
[04:13] <HrdwrBoB> man dpkg
[04:13] <HrdwrBoB> dpkg is the package tool
[04:13] <ld> HrdwrBoB: cool, thanks :)
[04:13] <ld> -I
[04:13] <HrdwrBoB> no worries
[04:14] <HrdwrBoB> ld: you asked a very good question, good work :D
[04:14] <ld> cool, dpkg looks very much like qpkg
[04:14] <ld> (actually, I think it's the other way around :D)
[04:14] <marcin> funkyHat: hmm yet another question - I got apache2 listed 3 times on ps list
[04:14] <HrdwrBoB> heh
[04:14] <linkd> thats just because it threads marcin
[04:14] <ld> marcin: it's forking :)
[04:14] <marcin> funkyHat: 2 times user is www-data, and 1 time user is root
[04:15] <linkd> marcin: yea it uses one as root for all the real work and the other 2 for security
[04:15] <marcin> linkd: sooo www-data is not real apache2 owner?
[04:15] <linkd> www-data is the real owner yes.
[04:15] <miked> targetx pls check priv
[04:15] <miked> targetx pls check priv :))
[04:16] <GURT> here goes nothin'
[04:16] <marcin> linkd: so maybe you know how to set permissions to my home dir and some subdirectory in my home dir
[04:16] <marcin> linkd: to run this dir with apache?
[04:17] <linkd> just chown www-data:www-data dir_for_apache then use regular permissions. it needs at least x and r
[04:17] <marcin> linkd: (it's my workspace where I work on some website and I just want to test this website as I work without copying to /var/www)
[04:17] <targetx> miked I didnt receive anything
[04:17] <linkd> if u configured apache in httpd.conf to do so, you can just create a subdir called ~/public_html and apache will read that by default
[04:17] <dwight> hi DShepherd
[04:17] <linkd> aswell as /var/www
[04:18] <DShepherd> Hey dwight
[04:18] <dwight> DShepherd, what's up
[04:18] <DShepherd> dwight: nm, u
[04:18] <miked> targetx erm i pm'ed you
[04:18] <K-Rich> Where did /etc/asound.conf go in breezy ?
[04:18] <dwight> DShepherd, ok
[04:18] <ld> I tried to install a package and something went wrong (it's related to my disk problems). anyway, now, whenever I try to install something else with apt-get, I get an error related to the package that could not be installed... how do I get rid of that package ?
[04:19] <dwight> ld apt-get update
[04:19] <HrdwrBoB> ld: dpkg --purge will get rid of it and any trace it ever existed
[04:19] <ld> HrdwrBoB: already tried that... it's still there :(
[04:19] <miked> targetx well im talking to n=target@f55140.upc-f.chello.nl :)
[04:20] <targetx> miked, I'm sorry I did not receive you'r PM's
[04:20] <dwight> ld, try updating apt-get
[04:20] <ld> dwight: just did that now... same problem
[04:20] <targetx> miked, brb
[04:20] <ld> after that, I did a dpkg --purge -a
[04:21] <ld> then I tried apt-get install package, and it still nags me about that package...
[04:21] <miked> targetx k tell me if u see what i write to u
[04:21] <ld> s/that package/the package that could not be installed earlier/
[04:21] <dwight> ld, can youu apt-get remove the package
[04:22] <dwight> ld, ok
[04:22] <deltasudo> Hi. Does root exist on ubuntu?
[04:22] <ld> dwight: yap, worked like charm :) thanks :)
[04:22] <dwight> ld, no prob
[04:23] <ld> still got a lot to learn about dpkg/apt
[04:23] <miked> deltasudo yes it does :P
[04:23] <marcin> linkd: hmmm doesn't work
[04:23] <dwight> deltasudo, not buy default
[04:23] <dwight> ld, me too
[04:23] <linkd> deltasudo: yea it does. there is a FAQ somewhere on how to enable it. but most people just use sudo. i.e. sudo command_that_needs_root
[04:23] <marcin> linkd: what permissions should I have on my /home/user directory?
[04:23] <joe_b> deltasudo: you can just do 'sudo su -'
[04:23] <linkd> chmod o+x /home/user
[04:23] <marcin> linkd: currenlty I got 700
[04:24] <jsubl2> deltasudo, alias su='sudo -i' works well
[04:24] <mustard5> deltasudo, or even sudo -i or sudo -s :)
[04:24] <linkd> and i thin o+r too
[04:24] <linkd> that wont work marcin. u need to give permissions for other users
[04:24] <trappist> default here seems to be 755
[04:24] <Aron_Figaro> has anyone fixed the flash drive permission problem in breezy yet?
[04:24] <WinZ> 700
[04:24] <joe_b> mustard5: ah, i did wonder if there was a better way, never really used sudo until I played with ubuntu
[04:24] <linkd> marcin: try 755
[04:24] <targetx> miked, no I can't see it
[04:24] <targetx> miked, use /msg <my nickname> <message>
[04:24] <miked> targetx i cant understant it
[04:24] <trappist> good luck getting mail delivered to a 700 $HOME
[04:24] <joe_b> mustard5: have been a gentoo kid for a long time :)
[04:25] <KinkoBlast> Is there a native engine for Lemmings? It's REALLY slow in dosbox and doesn't work in wine.
[04:25] <mustard5> joe_b, :)
[04:25] <deltasudo> thanks all, I'll try that.
[04:25] <ld> targetx: apt-get tells me it can't find the package ubuntu-desktop
[04:25] <mustard5> KinkoBlast, I haven't heard of one myself
[04:25] <patter> KinkoBlast: try dosemu
[04:25] <ld> targetx: I tried apt-get install ubuntu-desktop -f
[04:25] <targetx> ld, lemme check, that seems odd
[04:26] <Aron_Figaro> Does anyone have USB flash drives working in Breezy?
[04:26] <miked> targetx do you see it now?
[04:26] <thirso> joe_b. didnt work..
[04:26] <ld> targetx: my system is very broken though, so it might just be me
[04:26] <targetx> miked, no
[04:26] <miked> targetx grr
[04:26] <clast> hi everyone, i wanna build the newest 2.6.14 kernel on my breezy. which patches do I need and where do I get them?
[04:26] <targetx> synaptic package manager: search: ubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <miked> targetx i dotn wanna spam main chat
[04:26] <joe_b> thirso: still getting the same error?
[04:26] <targetx> shows me edubuntu-, kubuntu- ubuntu- and xubuntu- desktop
[04:26] <miked> targetx cause i wanna show u the contents of my xconf.org
[04:26] <mustard5> miked, join #flood then
[04:27] <targetx> miked, trust me I dont want to see it
[04:27] <joe_b> thirso: what do you get as the output of lsmod | grep nv
[04:27] <thirso> joe_b. i tried to modprobe nvidia but it says theres no nvidia module
[04:27] <ld> targetx: isn't there a pseudo-package like "world" in gentoo ?
[04:27] <targetx> miked, I've allready told you: you need to find out the horizontal and the vertical rates yourself
[04:27] <thirso> joe_b. nothing
[04:27] <miked> targetx well there isnt
[04:27] <targetx> ld, not that I know of, but I've only been using Ubuntu for a week now :-)
[04:27] <targetx> miked, on google
[04:27] <miked> targetx looked really good
[04:27] <ld> targetx: welcome to the club :)
[04:27] <targetx> type in the make of your monitor and hope someone else figured it out for you
[04:27] <miked> targetx i know the rates for example 1024x768@85hz
[04:28] <miked> targetx 800x600@100hz
[04:28] <cristian23___> hello
[04:28] <joe_b> thirso: thats very odd
[04:28] <targetx> ld, I've been using Linux for over 4 years though, so I know my way around.. just not Ubuntu-specific
[04:28] <miked> targetx thats all i need
[04:28] <targetx> miked, you don't know the refresh rates lol
[04:28] <targetx> miked, you need the horizontal and the vertical rates
[04:28] <cristian23___> i'm having a problem with kdm
[04:28] <joe_b> thirso: ill have a look at the stuff i have installed
[04:28] <thirso> joe_b. the kernel i installed is the k7 one
[04:28] <miked> targetx ok
[04:28] <targetx> it's in section monitor
[04:28] <cristian23___> xdcmp only listen to ipv6 addresses
[04:28] <targetx> check ubuntu for a guide or something.. it is definately on there
[04:28] <Aron_Figaro> Guys - Breezy + Flash Drives? Anyone using one?
[04:28] <targetx> Aron_Figaro, nope, not me
[04:28] <ld> targetx: same here :) but I've been a gentoo-er for the past few years...
[04:28] <mustard5> Aron_Figaro, nope
[04:29] <cristian23___> how can i change that configuration
[04:29] <Aron_Figaro> Oh, great. :p
[04:29] <thirso> joe_b. i realized theres a linux-restriced-modules for the k7 kernel
[04:29] <joe_b> thirso: have you got linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-k7-nvidia-legacy
[04:29] <mustard5> !anyone
[04:29] <ubotu> somebody said anyone was 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[04:29] <joe_b> thirso: :)
[04:29] <Aron_Figaro> Question: how do I change the owner of a device?
[04:29] <targetx> ld, ah I see :) Does gentoo exist for 4 years allready ?
[04:30] <marco_> HI ! I have a question.. I want to use the IPO influence in an armature in the last blender 2.4 (conference)...  I doesnt see how !
[04:30] <marcin> linkd: well with 755 it worked - thanks
[04:30] <ld> targetx: I dunno... might be :)
[04:30] <linkd> marcin: np
[04:30] <thirso> joe_b. yeah i configured my internet on this kernel just for that and forgot it :D
[04:30] <ld> targetx: I think I started with it a few weeks after it came out...
[04:30] <cristian23___> i'm trying to connect from another pc and it loops restarting X
[04:30] <marcin> linkd: but now this subdirectory is owned by www-data
[04:31] <mustard5> Aron_Figaro, is it a device in your fstab?
[04:31] <linkd> marcin: then change it to ur user and 755 it also
[04:31] <marcin> linkd: so to have write access I should add to group www-data and set permissions on this folder to write for group?
[04:31] <targetx> ld, I see.. Well I started using linux with some fairly uncommon distro, don't recall the name.. then Red Hat 9.. Slackware 8 / 9 / 9.1 then Arch Linux 6 / 7 and now Ubuntu 4.1
[04:31] <cristian23___> any sugestion?
[04:31] <ld> targetx: ah, there, 2001 :)
[04:31] <targetx> ld: time goes fast! wow
[04:31] <linkd> marcin: yea thats how i do it.
[04:32] <ld> targetx: indeed :)
[04:32] <targetx> I can recall it like yesterday.. that gentoo just started out etc
[04:32] <linkd> marcin: i gotta go out now anyway so i hope it goes well.
[04:32] <ld> targetx: php is 10 years old, I just noticed
[04:32] <targetx> heh PHP rokcs
[04:32] <ld> targetx: damn, I'll soon need a walking stick :)
[04:32] <targetx> ld: LOL!
[04:32] <marcin> linkd: ok - thanks for all help
[04:33] <clast> hi everyone, i wanna build the newest 2.6.14 kernel on my breezy. which patches do I need and where do I get them?
[04:33] <dwight> ld and  when you get it that walking stick will be running linux
[04:33] <mythtv> hi
[04:33] <mythtv> oops
[04:33] <targetx> lol dwight
[04:33] <cristian23___> does anybody have problems with kdm and xdcmp...it only listen to ipv6 addresses
[04:33] <ld> dwight: lol
[04:33] <targetx> MythTV rocks :)
[04:34] <ld> dwight: it will be running microsoft windows for walking sticks
[04:34] <targetx> rofl!!
[04:34] <Aron_Figaro> mustard5 yup
[04:34] <targetx> stripped down media or not ? :) thats the question
[04:34] <ld> (tm)
[04:34] <ld> (r)
[04:34] <ld> (etc)
[04:34] <Aron_Figaro> mustard5 - actually, it just randomly vanished from my dev list. I'm going to reboot it so hotplug restarts and redetects it...hopefully.
[04:34] <targetx> hehe
[04:34] <Aron_Figaro> actually wait...1 sec.
[04:34] <dwight> ld  but what will happen to you if there's a blue screen of death
[04:35] <dwight> ld does that mean the end of you...and the stick
[04:35] <Aron_Figaro> SCORE
[04:35] <targetx> nah, just put Linux on it
[04:35] <cristian23___> ok thanks anyway
[04:35] <Aron_Figaro> fixed it
[04:35] <ld> dwight: that'd be a red screen of death
[04:35] <mustard5> Aron_Figaro, I wonder whether you could use suid or uid to set it...I don't really totally understand them
[04:35] <ld> literally
[04:35] <targetx> :)
[04:35] <dwight> ld k
[04:35] <mustard5> Aron_Figaro, you worked it out?
[04:35] <targetx> then i'd definately put linux on it.. if my life would depend on some windows system.. bah
[04:35] <mustard5> Aron_Figaro, well done :D
[04:35] <Aron_Figaro> mustard5, yeah, I just changed the ownership of the damn device.
[04:35] <Aron_Figaro> mustard5, it's messy, but hey - it worked.
[04:35] <mustard5> :)
[04:36] <mustard5> whatever works ;)
[04:36] <mustard5> without breakin' stuff :P
[04:36] <ld> targetx: well, just make sure you don't buy and bmws with windows on them
[04:36] <dwight> ld, To me windows is not that bad, its just too overweight and expensive
[04:36] <targetx> dwight, it uses WAY too much memory
[04:37] <targetx> dwight, and you shouldn't trust closed-source software
[04:37] <ld> dwight: well, it got better lately, I'd have to admit
[04:37] <agheih> that's a great statement
[04:37] <Aron_Figaro> mustard5 - yeah, well, next steps are video card drivers (stupid ATI) and Windows network integration, and WINE. That should be interesting. ;)
[04:37] <ld> dwight: but I just absolutely love microsoft's error messages
[04:37] <ld> I'm a fan
[04:37] <mustard5> Aron_Figaro, I hate wine. NOthing but grief trying to make it work
[04:37] <haffe> Is there an app for linux that will detect my Bluetooth cellphone and start playing a tune when it detects it?
[04:38] <dwight> targetx, that;s what closed-software people say about opensource too
[04:38] <targetx> ld, lol.. they make everything with a wizzard and then when you cannot login to MSN they say: Cannot connect to the network (0x5593)
[04:38] <targetx> that 0xblabla thing is so funny hehe
[04:38] <targetx> dwight, but they can't make a valid statement about that
[04:38] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Aron_Figaro about ati
[04:38] <ld> dwight: I just got a message the other day: "unexpected error 0xff04912 occured". which, of course, means "can't bind port 80". of course, what was I thinking
[04:38] <mustard5> you seen that stuff that ubotu sent you Aron_Figaro ?
[04:38] <dwight> targetx, and the argument will go on
[04:38] <targetx> ld haha!
[04:38] <trappist> ubotu: tell trappist about ati
[04:38] <targetx> dwight, nah, open source is by people for people. Everyone can see it and fix it :)
[04:39] <targetx> dwight, there's no valid statement that closed source is better than open source, if there is I want to know.. ?
[04:39] <dwight> targetx, i agree but micro.... is good at adverstiising, brainwashing, people
[04:39] <targetx> dwight, thats true
[04:39] <mustard5> *cough* targetx, dwight  >>offtopic ;)
[04:40] <ld> I was gonna say that :)
[04:40] <targetx> nah we are discussing open source vs closed source
[04:40] <hawking> hi I have some programmes of which I don't know their original name they are in my gnome desktop menus. I'll start to use fluxbox and I want to learn the original names of this programmes like (Dr. Geo or Eric Python IDE etc.) how can i do that?
[04:40] <dwight> targetx,  anyways I like windows cause in some ways it forces linux to get better,,,And I love that
[04:40] <agheih> brainwashing, eh? isn't all advertising brainwashing?
[04:40] <miked> targetx
[04:40] <ld> dwight: well, everything for the better :)
[04:40] <targetx> dwight, true, peer pressure is a good thing
[04:41] <miked> targetx how can i watch avi extension movies?
[04:41] <Seveas> people, take off-topic discussions elsewhere please
[04:41] <Seveas> this is a support channel
[04:41] <dwight> agheih, yup. basically
[04:41] <defcon8> anyone use plone?
[04:41] <thirso> joe_b. geez it just wont work
[04:41] <targetx> just like HL2 / Doom 3 / Fear set the standard for future 3d gaming
[04:41] <miked> targetx what player / codec do i need?
[04:41] <targetx> Seveas, noted, sorry!
[04:41] <targetx> miked, gstreamer-media* I think
[04:41] <dwight> defcon8, my boss does
[04:41] <defcon8> i put PloneChat in the products dir of zope and restarted it but it still isnt showing up
[04:41] <targetx> Seveas, can we discuss these kind of topics in ##linux ?
[04:41] <Seveas> defcon8, try #plone or #zope
[04:41] <K-Rich> Hi all, This is driving me nuts, is there a way to getsystem sounds and audacity to play nice together? i have to turn off the sound server now to use audacity and lose my system sounds :/
[04:41] <dwight> have you added the product
[04:41] <Seveas> targetx, I don't know that channel... #ubuntu-offtopic will do for sure
[04:42] <dwight> defcon8, have you added the product
[04:42] <targetx> ahh great.. thanks
[04:42] <roney> may I find a friend here for frinedship and my poor English?
[04:42] <dwight> defcon8, go to sitsetup, add/remove products and you should be in business
[04:42] <mustard5> roney, whats your native tongue?
[04:43] <Seveas> roney, I doubt it, this is an Ubuntu support channel.
[04:43] <targetx> try #hotchicks
[04:43] <mustard5> I was going to redirect him Seveas ;)
[04:43] <thirso> joe.b: now it says that the nvidia kernel's version is different from the X version
[04:43] <roney> I am a ubuntu fan too:)
[04:43] <targetx> anyone knows #linuxhelp on the ChatJunkies server ?
[04:43] <mustard5> what is your native language roney?
[04:44] <defcon8> dwight, exactly. it doesnt show up in add prodcutys
[04:44] <MenZa`> If you're not here for support, tru #ubuntu-offtopic :d
[04:44] <roney> Chinese
[04:44] <mustard5> there is a chinese channel
[04:44] <dwight> oh ok. try #plone or #zope then
[04:44] <Seveas> roney, try #ubuntu-zh
[04:45] <roney> Thank you very much
[04:45] <dwight> defcon8, where did you put the product again?
[04:45] <ld> I'm still trying to re-install all the installed packages... so far I've tried apt-get --reinstall upgrade and apt-get --reinstall dist-upgrade but I still can't make it do what I want...
[04:45] <dwight> defcon8, the path
[04:45] <ld> they all tell me there are 0 packages to reinstall
[04:45] <targetx> ld, try with -f ?
[04:45] <defcon8> /usr/share/zope/Products/PloneChat
[04:45] <kandoora_> is there something like windows movie maker for ubuntu
[04:46] <ld> targetx: just tried both commands with -f, same story
[04:46] <Seveas> kandoora_, yes
[04:46] <targetx> ld, crap :(
[04:46] <GURT> i'm updating to breezy and it downloaded a ton of stuff.. now it's asking me about login.defs.. not too sure what to do here..
[04:46] <kandoora_> what is it called
[04:46] <mustard5> GRUT, login.defs  sounds scary :)
[04:46] <Seveas> I forgot :)
[04:46] <Seveas> hang on
[04:46] <kandoora_> sure
[04:46] <K-Rich> kino
[04:47] <K-Rich> or cinelarra
[04:47] <zpierreski> kandoora_: apt-get kino
[04:47] <targetx> Seveas, whats your relation the the Ubuntu team?
[04:47] <K-Rich> or ummmm a few others as well
[04:47] <Davey> GURT, for me, IIRC, I just accepted that one, but hit "d" I think, and it'll show you the differences, you can then choose to accept it or keep your current one
[04:47] <Davey> GURT, IIRC, it just added some comments
[04:47] <zpierreski> I like kino b/c it's a lot like premiere pro
[04:47] <dwight> defcon8, not too sure, try the guys at #plone or #zope.. they know alot more
[04:47] <Seveas> targetx, I'm an Ubuntu member, which means a contibuting person from the community
[04:47] <zpierreski> and It's got a good fx plugin
[04:47] <defcon8> no replies from there dwight
[04:48] <targetx> Seveas, are you just monitoring this channel or do you also provide code etc ?
[04:48] <Seveas> targetx, www.launchpad.net/people/dennis
[04:48] <K-Rich> Seveas: do you know how yo get Audacity and Esd to play nice, seems i can't use audacity if the sound server option is checked :/
[04:48] <Seveas> K-Rich, sorry, I don't know audacity that well
[04:48] <GURT> i hit d and its a bunch of stuff i have no idea about. and im at the end of the page.. how do i get back to the prompt?
[04:49] <thirso> Does anyone have the k7 kernel installed?
[04:49] <Mstrshade> Morning All
[04:49] <mustard5> K-Rich, I think you might just have have sound server off
[04:49] <jsubl2> thirso, yes.  using it now
[04:49] <zpierreski> I'm trying to apt-get dvdrip, but it's not working;  I get this message: Depends: transcode (>=2:0.6.14) but it is not installable
[04:49] <Mstrshade> Anyone got realplayer to be able to stream music off a web site?
[04:50] <mustard5> K-Rich, I can't run any other sound stuff with audacity myself
[04:50] <Seveas> zpierreski, enable multiverse
[04:50] <dwight> defcon8, try this link.... http://ingeniweb.sourceforge.net/Products/PloneChat/
[04:50] <Mstrshade> I got the program to install and it works, but how do I get it to play a fee off a web site
[04:51] <defcon8> ok
[04:51] <mustard5> Mstrshade, play a fee?
[04:51] <GURT> shit.. i am back at a promt and i didn't finish the install
[04:51] <dwight> defcon8, it say something about portal_quickinstaller , maybe that will help
[04:51] <defcon8> dwight, naah it doesnt. iev tried that. that is the thing to install products anyway
[04:51] <zpierreski> I already have
[04:51] <GURT> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[04:52] <zpierreski> Seveas: I have, but it still doesn't work
[04:52] <mustard5> GURT, doesnt sound good
[04:52] <NightLord> i tried converting the limewire rpm to a deb with alien, but it won't run, does anyone know a proper deb for limewire?
[04:52] <GURT> well what do i do now?
[04:52] <Mstrshade> Ok well does anyone have a media player that I can stream music from a website
[04:52] <K-Rich> xms can
[04:52] <jsubl2> Mstrshade, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer..  then get the codecs
[04:52] <K-Rich> xmms
[04:52] <Mstrshade> Really ?
[04:52] <NightLord> mstrshade: rhythmbox
[04:52] <zpierreski> NightLord: don't try using a deb to install it
[04:52] <Mstrshade> I could never get mplayer to install
[04:52] <NightLord> i can't find a deb thats the problem
[04:53] <zpierreski> NightLord: go to www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:53] <dwight> defcon8, I new to plone to, soo I guess you need somebody with a little more experience
[04:53] <GURT> Davey: ? anyone?
[04:53] <Seveas> zpierreski, ubuntuguide sucks
[04:53] <zpierreski> NightLord: they give u really really easy instructions on how to install it
[04:53] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[04:53] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[04:53] <mustard5> GURT, I think you better describe your entire circumstance to the channel to bring people up to date
[04:53] <Mstrshade> jsubl2, Heres what I get
[04:53] <NightLord> cool
[04:53] <Mstrshade> E: Couldn't find package mozilla-mplayer
[04:53] <selinium> NightLord, You can create your own deb from source. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConfigureMakeMakeInstall
[04:53] <zpierreski> NightLord: it works great for installing limewire
[04:53] <MenZa`> zpierreski: Rather extensive though
[04:53] <dwight> zpierreski, there's a ubuntuguide in ubuntu
[04:54] <jsubl2> Mstrshade, you need to enable universe and multiverse
[04:54] <dwight> zpierreski, under your help menu
[04:54] <Mstrshade> one sec I will double check
[04:54] <selinium> zpierreski, Don't recommend ubuntuguide in this channel please. :)
[04:54] <GURT> well you seemed to have been following along with your commentary
[04:54] <ld> ah, there :) apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg --get-selections | cut -f1`
[04:54] <mustard5> GURT, I don't know the answer
[04:55] <zpierreski> selinium: no prob, srry
[04:55] <Whistler> how can i view nautilus log?
[04:55] <kandoora_> just from the looks of the screenshots of kino and cinerella, both look very promising, has anyone tried both, what's your opinion
[04:55] <thirso> Can anyone help me? X wont start, it says the nvidia's kernel version is different from the X version (ive installed the k7 kernel).
[04:55] <ld> thought it would be a more straight-forward way
[04:55] <mustard5> GURT, if you like I will refrain from commenting :)
[04:55] <Whistler> nautilus just quit without saying anything
[04:55] <ld> s/it/there/
[04:55] <selinium> zpierreski, no problem! :)
[04:55] <Whistler> admin@ubuntu:~$ nautilus
[04:55] <Whistler> Illegal instruction
[04:56] <Whistler> i ge this msg then i try to start nautilus again
[04:56] <Whistler> *get
[04:56] <kandoora_> zpierreski, have you tried both kino and cinerella
[04:56] <mustard5> Whistler, you tried /etc/init.d/nautilus restart?
[04:56] <zpierreski> does anyone know if there is a good alternative to dvdrip
[04:56] <zpierreski> I need to transcode a dvd to xvid
[04:57] <NightLord> hey, cool, it worked ^_^ thanks
[04:57] <Whistler> mustard5 /etc/init.d/nautilus restart
[04:57] <Whistler>   ?
[04:57] <mustard5> forget that
[04:57] <thirso> !nvidia
[04:57] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:57] <mustard5> it doesn work :D
[04:57] <Whistler> i c
[04:57] <Whistler> :)
[04:57] <ld> targetx: victory :) if you ever need to reinstall everything, that should do it :)
[04:57] <mustard5> Whistler, I think you do something like killall nautilus, I'm not sure
[04:57] <targetx> ld, apt-get install victory ? :)
[04:58] <kandoora_> is there anything in linux like windows registry
[04:58] <ld> targetx: that too, but apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg --get-selections | cut -f1` # should work better :)
[04:58] <dwight> targetx, lol
[04:58] <Whistler> mustard5 i cant kill him .Cause he is closed
[04:58] <Whistler> he quit
[04:58] <Whistler> by itself
[04:58] <targetx> ld: neat!
[04:58] <mustard5> Whistler, hmmm...
[04:58] <ld> muhaha
[04:58] <selinium> Whistler, type ps -C nautilus  to see if there is an active process
[04:58] <kandoora_> is there registry in linux
[04:59] <ld> it only has to reinstall 1217 packages
[04:59] <Whistler> selinium PID TTY          TIME CMD
[04:59] <Whistler> this is what i get
[04:59] <Mstrshade> ok I got universe enabled
[04:59] <dwight> kandoora_, not in ubuntu
[04:59] <jsubl2> Mstrshade, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[04:59] <selinium> Whistler, ok no active process then.
[04:59] <Mstrshade> I don't see multi verse
[04:59] <zpierreski> im back, did anyone mention a good dvdrip alternative?
[05:00] <zpierreski> I found one called handbrake
[05:00] <jsubl2> Mstrshade, multiverse  one word not 2
[05:00] <selinium> Whistler: and just typing nautilus does nothing?
[05:00] <zpierreski> but I only have the source
[05:00] <dwight> ld hope your system is better
[05:00] <Whistler> Illegal instruction
[05:00] <jsubl2> Mstrshade, i generally add multiverse to the end of lines with universe on them
[05:00] <Whistler> i get this then just typing nautilus
[05:00] <miked> after i installed mc where do i look for it?
[05:00] <selinium> zpierreski, you can compile your own deb from source... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConfigureMakeMakeInstall
[05:00] <kandoora_> dwight, i'm trying to shift fully to linux, but i need to know a few things, so if there's no registry, is there anything simillar, where do the values get stored
[05:00] <selinium> Whistler, try sudo nautilus
[05:01] <ld> dwight: yap, me too... if it's not, I live at the 8th floor...
[05:01] <targetx> kandoora_, config files
[05:01] <ld> dwight: and the computer is very close to the balcony...
[05:01] <jsubl2> kandoora_, values for what
[05:01] <mustard5> Whistler, bit of a sticky one
[05:01] <targetx> kandoora_, usually residing in /home/<username>/.<appname>
[05:01] <Whistler> still the same :(
[05:01] <dwight> ld lol
[05:01] <Mstrshade> just added multiverse to the end of the universe line
[05:01] <kandoora_> do any of you out there use ubuntu and only ubuntu, w/o windows
[05:02] <selinium> Whistler, Really? what were you doing when it stopped functioning?
[05:02] <jsubl2> Mstrshade, apt-get update
[05:02] <Mstrshade> wow that worked
[05:02] <mustard5> kandoora_, me
[05:02] <zpierreski> selinium: great, I'll give this a shot
[05:02] <kandoora_> mustard5, are you happy with the situation
[05:02] <jsubl2> Mstrshade, get the codecs.. i use the ones from the mplayer site
[05:02] <selinium> zpierreski,  np
[05:02] <mustard5> kandoora_, 99% happy
[05:02] <Whistler> selinium just as every day, browsing web(Opera), listening to music(xmms),chatting(xchat) thats it
[05:02] <Mstrshade> is there a way to apt-get them ?
[05:02] <mustard5> kandoora_, no games :(
[05:02] <ld> I start liking dpkg :) I just hope it won't download a package if I already have it in cache...
[05:02] <GURT> can someone help me out with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3737 i was in the middle uf updating to breezy
[05:02] <miked> how do i run mc after i got it from synaptic?
[05:03] <selinium> zpierreski, when you learn to do this it opens a whole new world of packages to you!  :)
[05:03] <Whistler> miked type mc in terminal
[05:03] <kandoora_> mustard5, i take it you are a gaming person
[05:03] <jsubl2> flock seems to crash with mplayer less than firefox.. anyone else tested this
[05:03] <miked> how can i create a desktop shortcut for mc to desktop
[05:03] <mustard5> kandoora_, normally
[05:03] <ld> flock's beta... it's a beta program running a beta gecko ;)
[05:04] <mustard5> kandoora_, I will try cedega one day, that might give me some happiness
[05:04] <thirso> joe.b: now it says that the nvidia kernel's version is different from the X version
[05:04] <kandoora_> thanx all you out there
[05:04] <mustard5> kandoora_, for now I am too lazy to bother :D
[05:04] <Jowi> hi all
[05:04] <Mstrshade> Hey jsubl2, do you know how I can use realplayer to play streaming content from a web site?
[05:04] <selinium> Whistler, Really strange. I am not sure where to go from here. Normally you would have done something to bork nautilus... Not even any updates?
[05:04] <ld> miked: ln -sf `which mc` ~/Desktop/
[05:05] <Whistler> selinium nope
[05:05] <jsubl2> Mstrshade, have not used realplayer in quite a while.. just about all the sites i frequent like cnn use wmv's
[05:05] <thirso> Can anyone help me? X wont start, it says the nvidia's kernel version is different from the X version (ive installed the k7 kernel).
[05:05] <Whistler> selinium maybe i should view nautilus log?
[05:05] <Whistler> if there is one
[05:05] <Mstrshade> the site I am talking about is honestly raaga.com, when you get there my realplayer starts up , but it never plays any music from the site.
[05:05] <mustard5> thirso, I am seeing a pattern of k7 kernels and nvidia problems
[05:05] <selinium> Whistler, I really dont know what is going on then... I am not sure.. I'll look.
[05:05] <Jowi> i ve noticed in auth.log that CRON open a root session and close it the same minute. This repeats every half an hour. root has no cron and neither does the users (all empty). anyone got any ideas of what it means?
[05:06] <mustard5> thirso, many threads going on the forums about same problem
[05:06] <Jowi> btw, CRON (pam_unix) is the service to which a root session is opened
[05:06] <mustard5> thirso, I'm on 686 kernel and nvidia is behaving
[05:06] <Mstrshade> Hmm wellt hank you kindly for your help :) jsubl2
[05:07] <jsubl2> Mstrshade,  sorry i could not help you more with the realplayer thing.
[05:07] <thirso> mustard5. wierd
[05:07] <Belutz> hmm offtopic question, but what ports does limewire use?
[05:07] <thirso> mustard5. was is the nvidia driver updated?
[05:07] <Mstrshade> Hey man I got one of the two working
[05:07] <thirso> mustard5. was the nvidia driver updated?
[05:08] <mustard5> thirso, you might monitor the threads in the forum for solutions
[05:08] <Mstrshade> Real player installed , I just cant get it to automatically play from that site like it does in winblows
[05:08] <thirso> coz it was working fine b4 i reinstalled ubuntu this week
[05:08] <mustard5> thirso, if it was I never updated
[05:08] <mustard5> thirso, I'm on latest nvidia 7667 drivers
[05:08] <selinium> Whistler, try sudo gedit /var/log/system  and see if that has any refs to nautilus, or other fails
[05:09] <selinium> Whistler, try sudo gedit /var/log/syslog  and see if that has any refs to nautilus, or other fails  Sorry
[05:09] <mustard5> thirso, I downloaded them quite some time ago, I don't imagine they update old versions though I suppose
[05:09] <Mstrshade> ok well I downloaded the codecs but its in a file like essential-20050412.tar.bz2
[05:09] <Mstrshade>  how do I convert to .deb and install?
[05:09] <thirso> mustard5. the error im getting is that the nvidia kernel version is 7174 and the X module is 7667
[05:09] <GURT> is there anyone that can help me with a problem that i've run into upgrading from hoary to breezy?
[05:10] <selinium> Mstrshade, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConfigureMakeMakeInstall
[05:10] <teodie> is there a superkaramba version for ubuntu or for gnome?
[05:10] <Seveas> GURT, what's the prob?
[05:10] <mustard5> thirso, perhaps its an issue with the k7 kernel, I would only be guessing though.
[05:10] <teodie> really like the mac os x dock bar effect
[05:10] <Whistler> selinium nope nothing about nautilus
[05:10] <mustard5> thirso, I'm a bit of noob with linux :D
[05:10] <mustard5> thirso, I'm on AMD too
[05:10] <GURT> Seveas: i upgraded via apt-get and it got to a part where it asked me if i wanted to replace logins.defs
[05:10] <mustard5> thirso, just running 686 kernel
[05:11] <GURT> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3737
[05:11] <teodie> is there a superkaramba version for ubuntu or for gnome???
[05:11] <GURT> and i went to view differences
[05:11] <thirso> mustard5 well guess ill just boot to kernel 386 and check the threads
[05:11] <GURT> and i was at the end of the page and didn't know how to get back to the option
[05:11] <jsubl2> Mstrshade, it is not a package you run  make on.. it is a tar file.. you have to tar xf filename
[05:11] <GURT> so i hit ctrl+c
[05:11] <selinium> Whistler, Ok... Urmmm... Don't know! :)
[05:11] <mustard5> thirso, whatever works is best :)
[05:11] <Seveas> GURT, ouch
[05:11] <GURT> and now i'm kind of stuck
[05:11] <thirso> :D
[05:11] <Seveas> a q would have done
[05:11] <selinium> Whistler, Sorry..
[05:12] <GURT> ah
[05:12] <Seveas> GURT, try this: sudo dpkg --configure --pending
[05:12] <Whistler> thats ok
[05:12] <GURT> ill try that
[05:12] <teodie> is there a superkaramba version for ubuntu or for gnome???
[05:12] <Seveas> !info superkaramba
[05:12] <ubotu> superkaramba: (A program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.36-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 429 kB, Installed size: 1228 kB
[05:12] <GURT> ok taht workd Seveas
[05:12] <nosilver4u> teodie: the closest you'll get to that for gnome is gdesklets
[05:13] <mustard5> Where do these obscure command come from Seveas :)  I'm amazed :)
[05:13] <GURT> do you think i should use the default option? (No)
[05:13] <Mstrshade> Well I used archive manager extracted it into a dir selfnamed
[05:13] <Mstrshade> I tried ./configure
[05:13] <Mstrshade> No good
[05:13] <agheih> how would i remove files from the command line with a certain timestamp?
[05:13] <selinium> Seveas: Whistler is having problems starting nautilus, it wont start under sudo or anything. It isn't running (ps -C nautilus) Any ideas?
[05:14] <Whistler> i had this prob this morning
[05:14] <Mstrshade> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[05:14] <Whistler> i just rebooted and it went ok
[05:14] <patter> agheih: man find
[05:14] <Whistler> but now it happened again
[05:14] <teodie> ubuto im  using gnome will superkaramba still work?
[05:14] <selinium> Whistler, Who are yu talking to?
[05:14] <Whistler> u
[05:14] <selinium> ok :)
[05:14] <ld> teodie: sure it will
[05:15] <teodie> thanks :)
[05:16] <Mstrshade> jsubl2,  configure, make , make install did not work
[05:16] <mustard5> Mstrshade, install build-essential?
[05:17] <Mstrshade> should I do a sudo apt-get build-essential?
[05:17] <mustard5> Mstrshade, sudo apt-get install build essential
[05:17] <mustard5> with the hyphen
[05:17] <mustard5> hehe
[05:17] <mustard5> sorry typo
[05:18] <mustard5> Mstrshade, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:18] <Mstrshade> gotcha
[05:18] <Mstrshade> then I can do a ./configure make mane install?
[05:18] <mustard5> yep
[05:18] <GURT> i've got another upgrade speed bump now.. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3738
[05:19] <Mstrshade> build essential installed properly
[05:19] <dragonkh> hi
[05:19] <dragonkh> anyone here use yakuake ?
[05:19] <delphiuk> is there any way to be able to use command line completion with the command directly after sudo?
[05:19] <pusling> dragonkh: I do
[05:19] <Seveas> that sounds like some weird japanese dish...
[05:19] <Mstrshade> lol
[05:19] <patter> with cream :)
[05:20] <Validdot> hello, if someone got time and already installed and made a ATI TV-card work?  I neither get sound or a image of the card. With SuSe it had an image, but no sound. Can someone please aide me?
[05:21] <mustard5> Validdot, I'm thinking.....
[05:21] <Mstrshade> mustard5, build essentil installed properly, what should I do next? I tried ./configure , make make install nothing worked? or am I done?
[05:21] <mustard5> Mstrshade, you in the right working directory?  type pwd
[05:21] <Twitch> hey guys, im haing ubuntu problems. :(
[05:21] <Twitch> gnome will load
[05:21] <Twitch> but
[05:21] <Twitch> itll freeze
[05:21] <Twitch> at the login screen
[05:21] <Twitch> im running hoary
[05:21] <Twitch> like
[05:22] <Twitch> right after i log in
[05:22] <Mstrshade> Yes I hope so
[05:22] <Twitch> itll give you the splash
[05:22] <Twitch> and then freeze
[05:22] <tritium> Twitch, please use puncuation rather than hitting enter every 2 words
[05:22] <Twitch> :(
[05:22] <Mstrshade> ?essential-20050412
[05:22] <Twitch> ah.
[05:22] <Validdot> Twitch: Did it work proper or is it direct after the system installation?
[05:22] <Seveas> hi tritium !
[05:22] <GURT> Seveas: I have another problem now..  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3738
[05:22] <tritium> Hi Seveas :)
[05:22] <targetx> lol @ Twitch
[05:22] <Twitch> direct after the installation.
[05:22] <delphiuk> Twitch: can you not upgrade to breezy?
[05:22] <Twitch> not currently, no.
[05:22] <Twitch> unless i order some cds.
[05:22] <mustard5> Validdot, you using xawtv?
[05:23] <Twitch> 56k :(
[05:23] <Seveas> GURT, was that the complete error?
[05:24] <jstrubberg> hey folks.  Any mail server gurus around today?
[05:24] <Mstrshade> I untarred the essential in /home/user/download/essential-
[05:25] <spiral> hi
[05:25] <GURT> Seveas: heres more http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3739
[05:25] <Twitch> oh, and, anyone know any good mainstream linux friendly ISPs?
[05:25] <electron> ip.h:125: error: redefinition of `struct in_addr'
[05:25] <mustard5> Mstrshade, and you have done cd /home/user/download/
[05:25] <Mstrshade> yes sir, I am in that directory now
[05:25] <electron> config.h:23:18: warning: extra tokens at end of #undef directive
[05:25] <electron> make: *** [flood.o]  Error 1
[05:25] <Twitch> 56k that is.
[05:25] <electron> how can I fix this?
[05:25] <mustard5> Mstrshade, I'm stumped then :)
[05:25] <Mstrshade> /home/maegus/downloads/essential-20050412
[05:25] <mustard5> what is this thing you are installing?
[05:25] <Mstrshade> :)
[05:26] <Mstrshade> Mplayer codecs
[05:26] <Mstrshade> fromt he mplayer website
[05:26] <jstrubberg> I'm having troulbe getting my mail server to work.  I have postfix and courier-IMAP installed.  I can't seem to authenticate to the IMAP server.
[05:26] <mustard5> are they like w32codecs?
[05:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mstrshade: as if you didnt get the 'all' codecs pack :|
[05:26] <tritium> GURT, have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install", followed by "sudo dpkg --configure --pending" ?
[05:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mstrshade: where are you stuck?
[05:26] <Seveas> GURT, try apt-get dist-upgrade again too
[05:27] <GURT> i tried sudo dpkg --configure --pending
[05:27] <mustard5> Mstrshade,  are they like w32codecs?
[05:27] <GURT> ok im doing sudo apt-get -f install now
[05:27] <Mstrshade> Well I did the tar xf essential-tar xf essential-20050412.tar.bz2
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> mustard5: not perse
[05:28] <mustard5> Kamping_Kaiser, k
[05:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> they are mplayers provided codecs. only work with mplayer afaik
[05:28] <Mstrshade> Hey Kamping_Kaiser
[05:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[05:28] <Mstrshade> I downloaded mplayer and installed it , works fine as of 5 mins ago thanks to jsubl
[05:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool
[05:28] <mustard5> Mstrshade, I just wonder if installing w32codecs would be easier
[05:28] <ubuntu> Hey
[05:29] <Mstrshade> ok how do I do that sudo apt-get install w32codecs?
[05:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> mustard5: i just untared the mplayer codecs, it's not that hard
[05:29] <ubuntu> I am just a new user of Ubuntu
[05:29] <mustard5> Kamping_Kaiser, k
[05:29] <ubuntu> Can anyone help me?
[05:29] <mustard5> whats your question ubuntu?
[05:29] <dedalus> hi
[05:29] <tritium> ubuntu, welcome.  Please don't hesitate to just ask your question.
[05:29] <dedalus> i need help about a wireless network with peap
[05:30] <ubuntu> I'm using the Live version...Isn't it possible to access my hard drive?
[05:30] <dedalus> i can't get it to work
[05:30] <GURT> Seveas: "sudo dpkg --configure --pending" does nothing and "apt-get dist-upgrade" yeilds http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3740
[05:30] <dedalus> i can't find certificates
[05:30] <mustard5> Mstrshade, you untarring them or trying to install them?
[05:30] <Mstrshade> Yes Sit
[05:30] <dedalus> does anyone use peap ??
[05:30] <mustard5> Mstrshade, from the sounds of it Kamping_Kaiser knows what to do :D
[05:30] <Mstrshade> Did the Tar xf essential , it untarred and created essential-20050412
[05:30] <GURT> oh i forgot sudo
[05:30] <Twitch> ah, it freezes when i try the live CD too
[05:31] <Mstrshade> I went into essential...and did ./configure
[05:31] <Twitch> which means its the computer.
[05:31] <Mstrshade> nothing.
[05:31] <mustard5> ubuntu, you may have to mount your drive, I'm not sure
[05:31] <tritium> ubuntu, yes, you can mount your hard drive
[05:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mstrshade: why are you trying to ./configure the codec pack?
[05:31] <ubuntu> I've tried Knoppix and I can access my hard disks when I used it...Is there anything that I should do to access my hard disk drives?
[05:31] <Mstrshade> yes
[05:32] <Mstrshade> I guess I was following someone else's advice Kamping_Kaiser
[05:32] <mustard5> Mstrshade, I think thats the problem
[05:32] <Mstrshade> After I untar I should not have to do anything?
[05:32] <dwight>  ubuntu is it windows ntfs drives you want to moount?
[05:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mstrshade: unless your compiling the codecs into mplayer, you don't need to configure stuff
[05:32] <Mstrshade> Kool  then problem Solved !
[05:32] <Mstrshade> YAY!
[05:32] <mustard5> :)
[05:32] <Mstrshade> I knew there was a reason I switched to this distro
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mstrshade: now 'sudo mkdir /usr/local/codecs && sudo cp * /usr/local/codecs'
[05:33] <ubuntu> Windows FAT 32 only, Dwight.
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> asuming your in the codecs dir
[05:33] <dwight> ubuntu, are you using a breezy live cd?
[05:33] <Twitch> you people and your breezy :(
[05:33] <Mstrshade> looks liek it worked
[05:34] <Twitch> how well does breezy work with wifi?
[05:34] <Seveas> GURT, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:34] <Seveas> very well
[05:34] <ubuntu> Breezy? What's the difference of Breezy with the AMD 64 Live version? (=
[05:34] <Seveas> (these words come to you over a wifi link)
[05:34] <tritium> Twitch, it's worth the upgrade
[05:34] <trinidad> hello all
[05:34] <Mstrshade> Thanks Kamp, Mustard for that
[05:34] <Mstrshade> Now I got another Q.
[05:34] <Twitch> hah awesome.. i guess ill order some of the cd's then.
[05:35] <trinidad> anyone notice the repositories are down
[05:35] <mustard5> Mstrshade, hehe
[05:35] <trinidad> ?
[05:35] <mustard5> trinidad, nope
[05:35] <Seveas> they're not
[05:35] <GURT> Seveas: thanks. I'm on it
[05:35] <mustard5> didnt notice
[05:35] <trinidad> last week, us.archive.ubuntu was down
[05:35] <trinidad> this week, archive.ubuntu is down
[05:35] <Validdot>     type : v4l2
[05:35] <Validdot>     name : BT878 video.... it it selected automatic with xawtv?
[05:35] <Mstrshade> I got a dual booted box here, I have the windows partition mounted, yet I can't erase any data from the drive it tells me this
[05:35] <trinidad> i can't ping em
[05:35] <trinidad> maybe a restart
[05:35] <Seveas> trinidad, probably level3 is crapping out o you
[05:35] <Validdot> oh
[05:35] <trinidad> level3?
[05:35] <trinidad> Seveas, please explain
[05:35] <dwight> ubuntu, if you are using a breezy livecd you can go to. System-admin-disk. Select the disk, go to the Partitions tab and click enable
[05:36] <trinidad> I'm using Hoary
[05:36] <Seveas> trinidad, level3 (company with big internet pipes) has problems
[05:36] <trinidad> ahh, ok
[05:36] <trinidad> thx
[05:36] <mustard5> Validdot, try running v4l-conf and see if it gives errors?
[05:36] <dwight> ubuntu, this is not available in hoary, that why i aked
[05:36] <trinidad> I will try again this afternoon.  I am trying to instal msttfonts for open office 2 here at work
[05:36] <Mstrshade> /dev/hda1      /media/windows   ntfs    iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0       0
[05:36] <Mstrshade> Theres the fstab lines for the mount
[05:36] <trinidad> hopefully i can migrate and persuade others to use linux
[05:36] <Jowi> I got this: Oct 28 17:09:01 localhost CRON[7431] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[05:37] <Jowi>  , Oct 28 17:09:01 localhost CRON[7431] : (pam_unix) session closed for user root. This repeats every 30 minutes. All crontabs are empty (incl. root). why does pam (or cron) behave like this?
[05:37] <trinidad> thx all
[05:37] <mustard5> Mstrshade, it would be mounted read only
[05:37] <ubuntu> Ok, Dwight! I really appreciate your advice. (= But can I ask what a Hoary is?
[05:37] <mustard5> Mstrshade, linux can't write to ntfs
[05:37] <Mstrshade> how do I mount it so I can delete files off it ?
[05:37] <ubuntu> Sorry, I'm just new here. (=
[05:37] <mustard5> Mstrshade, boot into windows :)
[05:37] <dwight> ubuntu, oh your very new to ubuntu
[05:37] <Validdot> ... it seems that there is no problem with video4linux
[05:38] <Twitch> are there any adavantages to using linux over windows for wardriving?
[05:38] <Mstrshade> Well I would, but this damm virus propogates the moment I restart, and my mis guy won't give me a damm cd to re install windowd
[05:38] <mustard5> you got dga support when you ran v4l-conf Validdot ?
[05:38] <Jowi> messages taken from /var/log/auth.log btw
[05:38] <dwight> ubuntu 'hoary' is the previous version of ubuntu linux
[05:38] <jenda> Twitch: I'll bet there are... like you can't catch a virus :)
[05:38] <Twitch> ROFL
[05:38] <dwight> ubuntu 'breezy' is the current version
[05:39] <dougsko> Validdot: r u trying to fix v4l freezing yr box?
[05:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> Twitch: you can spoof mac addresses with 'ease'
[05:39] <mustard5> Mstrshade, you are in a bind I think
[05:39] <Mstrshade> Dang
[05:39] <Twitch> so each computer has a mac adress, not each network?
[05:39] <Twitch> im new to wireless.. :(
[05:39] <dougsko> Twitch: all the good tools are written for linux
[05:39] <Mstrshade>  I was hopign there was some way to mount the drive and erase the amm files
[05:39] <tritium> Twitch, each NIC has a MAC address
[05:40] <Twitch> ah.
[05:40] <ubuntu> Thanks, Dwight!
[05:40] <mustard5> Mstrshade, you could format it ....thats a bit of a sledgehammer approach :)
[05:40] <electron> how can I set my pc now to reply to pings?
[05:40] <dwight> ubuntu, you are welcome. did you mount the disk?
[05:40] <mustard5> Mstrshade, programs that write to ntfs from linux cost many dollars I believe
[05:40] <Mstrshade> yeah but then I have to go and fidn this guy hopefully he can add me to the domain and its much more problematic, why do you think I added ubuntu as a second boot and am using it now :)
[05:40] <Twitch> i had no clue so many people had wireless... on the way back from the orthodontist today i turned on netstumbler
[05:41] <Twitch> rural area
[05:41] <Twitch> and i get 15 APs
[05:41] <Twitch> even this church had an AP.
[05:41] <ubuntu> I tried clicking the "Enable" button but still it says that the drive is still inaccessible.
[05:41] <dwight> ubuntu you can go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com//. and search for Releases
[05:42] <ubuntu> ok
[05:42] <Mstrshade> well ti was worth a try I guess, I had to ask
[05:42] <ubuntu> Thanks again!
[05:42] <dougsko> Twitch: the sad part is how little people properly secure them
[05:42] <Twitch> yeah, thatll be fixed soon enough though
[05:42] <tritium> dougsko, big people secure them too ;)
[05:42] <Twitch> making wardriving a once in forever thing
[05:42] <mustard5> Validdot, something that I had to do with my Haupage card was direct it to use /dev/video0 and /dev/vbi0 as it was looking for /dev/video and /dev/vbi
[05:42] <dougsko> lol
[05:43] <Twitch> soon enough theyll all be secured or we'll get nationwide wireless like japan.
[05:43] <mustard5> Mstrshade, doesnt hurt to ask
[05:43] <dougsko> theyre working on nationwide access
[05:43] <dwight> ubuntu, You may have to mount it yourself. Have you ever manually  mounted a disk?
[05:43] <ubuntu> Hey, Dwight! What is a WiKi anyway? What should I look for at the URL Address that you gave me? (=
[05:44] <ubuntu> Physically? Yes. I have mounted disks before.
[05:44] <Twitch> i have an AMD64 processor... are there any specific benefits to using the 64 bit breezy over the i386?
[05:44] <dwight> Crtl+f and type Release. It has links there about the versions of ubuntu. If you want to read
[05:44] <dougsko> has anyone had success with stopping video4linux from totally freezing theyre box when starting a webcam?
[05:44] <mustard5> ubuntu, I can't think of a simple explanation of a wiki :)
[05:44] <Twitch> it doesnt seem like its worth the hassle to me
[05:45] <Twitch> a wiki is an information resource thats openly editable to anyone.
[05:45] <Twitch> :)
[05:45] <tritium> ubuntu, it's a collaborative webpage
[05:45] <dwight> ubuntu go to www.wikipeda.com and type wiki. That should help
[05:45] <ubuntu> ...and WiKi stands for...?
[05:45] <Coweater> it doesn't
[05:45] <ubuntu> Aaaahhhh...Ok.
[05:45] <Twitch> its a coolass word though.
[05:45] <Twitch> wiki.
[05:45] <Mstrshade> nope, and You guys are nice enough to help.
[05:45] <mustard5> Twitch, I don't think its worth the effort to go AMD64 myself with the loss of functionality in some areas
[05:45] <ubuntu> Salamat ng marami! (Thanks a lot!)
[05:46] <ubuntu> Salamat ng marami! (Thanks a lot!)
[05:46] <Mstrshade> I guess I have to thank my teacher in linux + class for making us use ubuntu
[05:46] <electron> How do I install a .c program?
[05:46] <Twitch> ah, so ill just go 386.
[05:46] <tritium> ubuntu, did you know that there's a Tagalog ubuntu channel?
[05:46] <dougsko> electron: you have to compile it with gcc
[05:47] <electron> so gcc appname.c ?
[05:47] <dougsko> but, you'll probly have to apt-get build-essentials to get it to work
[05:47] <dwight> tritium, I think he just excited
[05:47] <Validdot> Thanks for your help mustard5, but I must go now
[05:47] <Mstrshade> nof if only my damm bit torrent program woudl download to an ftp server
[05:47] <dougsko> gcc -o filename filename.c
[05:47] <mustard5> Validdot, k
[05:47] <mustard5> Validdot, come back another day
[05:47] <ubuntu> Not yet, this is the first time that I logged in here. (=  How did you know that's Tagalog ?
[05:47] <tritium> ubuntu, my wife is Pinay
[05:48] <Twitch> oh yes.
[05:48] <Twitch> my breezy cd's are ordered.
[05:48] <ubuntu> Ok...and you are...?
[05:48] <dwight> ubuntu, wikipedia is a great encyclopedia. bookmark it will answer lots of your question
[05:48] <tritium> ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-ph :)
[05:48] <electron> jolt.c: In function `main':
[05:48] <electron> jolt.c:95: error: structure has no member named `ip_csum'
[05:48] <electron> how do I fix this?
[05:48] <ubuntu> Ok, Dwight! Thanks for the info!
[05:49] <dwight> ubuntu, no problem
[05:49] <dougsko> electron: if that's what i think it is, that's not a very nice program
[05:49] <Mstrshade> Hey kamping I got a werid problem when I start mplayer
[05:50] <electron> dougsko :p
[05:50] <electron> Im using it for testing
[05:50] <Mstrshade> new face failed, maybe the font path is wrong `mplayer/subfont.ttf???
[05:50] <toffy> bunjour
[05:51] <dougsko> electron: you're probly missing some c libraries. search for gcc in synaptic and get what you think you might need
[05:51] <_jason> !fr
[05:51] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[05:51] <dougsko> electron: i really dont know exactly what youre missing
[05:51] <wdh> !nl
[05:51] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[05:51] <toffy> ok merci
[05:51] <mustard5> Mstrshade, I've always got that same error with mplayer myself
[05:51] <dunston> Anybody know what packet that i should install to play mp3?
[05:51] <wdh> lol :P
[05:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mstrshade: yeh, I'm getting a font error as well, but havent had time to check it out
[05:51] <yi> hurm
[05:52] <yi> ubuntu doesn't have rc.local?
[05:52] <Mstrshade> I hoep this thing plays dis and son on
[05:52] <mustard5> Mstrshade, it doesnt seem to mess with the functionality of mplayer though
[05:52] <dougsko> electron: p.s. - jolt is really outdated. jolt2 is a *little* newer
[05:52] <yi> does it have an equivalent where one could put startup scripts in?
[05:52] <mustard5> yi, if I knew what rc.local was I tell you :)
[05:52] <bluefrog-10> jenda, what was the trick then?
[05:53] <ubuntu> There are lots of scripts at the WiKi...I think mounting and accessing my drives will not be easy. I still have to learn about 'em.
[05:53] <dougsko> ubuntu: check out the man page for fstab
[05:53] <mustard5> ubuntu try learning the command line interface first perhaps?
[05:53] <dwight> dunston go to  System-Help-Ubuntu Starter Guide-applications-Music and Movies #everything you need to play any filetypes
[05:53] <mustard5> ubotu: tell ubuntu about cli
[05:54] <Twitch> i guess ill go watch crouching tiger hidden dragon..
[05:54] <KinkoBlast> Help! Every time I launch dosemu, it segfaults
[05:54] <jenda> bluefrog-10: I used the non-legacy packages, restarted X and was ready to give up, but then I thought I'll give rebooting a shot, and it worked. I suspect I might've done the mistake of not rebooting earlier.
[05:55] <adjacent> blah. does flash work properly for anyone? ive never been able to get it to play things properly.
[05:55] <Mstrshade> are there any repositories I should make open in my sources.list ?
[05:55] <tritium> yi, man update-rc.d
[05:55] <mustard5> adjacent, yep ..working for me
[05:55] <joss> salut
[05:55] <yi> tritium: right i knew about that
[05:55] <dunston> dwight: thx... that was usefull
[05:55] <yi> tritium: but that actually installs the scripts into your runlevels
[05:55] <tritium> yi, yes
[05:55] <adjacent> damn. that bugs me. ive tried all sorts of stuff. no luck. things load, play for a hot second, the freeze
[05:56] <dwight> dunston, no problem. Help is right there in the starter guide. it's very useful
[05:56] <mustard5> ubotu: tell adjacent about flash
[05:56] <yi> tritium: heh, sorry, i come from a bsd style init world, i guess that's what i will do then
[05:56] <dwight> ubuntu, how is mounting coming on?
[05:56] <GURT> Seveas, trin, Davey thank you for your help
[05:56] <adjacent> mustard5: thanks. but of course i tried that before coming here
[05:56] <GURT> i think it's all done now
[05:56] <mustard5> adjacent, k
[05:56] <tritium> yi, you can edit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh perhaps
[05:57] <yi> tritium: ah ok, thanks, i will take a look
[05:57] <mustard5> adjacent, you tried the forums
[05:57] <mustard5> ?
[05:57] <adjacent> mustard5: ive looked around, but i havent made apost
[05:58] <adjacent> i suppose thats the next step
[05:58] <mustard5> adjacent, you might find something in customisation tips and tricks
[05:58] <_native_> is hostap driver included in kernel 2.6.13.4?
[05:58] <ubuntu> Dwight, it's  very late at night here in the Philippines, I guess I will have to explore and study about Ubuntu next time. I
[05:58] <KinkoBlast> Help! Every time I launch dosemu, it segfaults!
[05:59] <dwight> ubuntu, want me to walk you thru mounting
[05:59] <DonVincenzo> How can I remove mysql autostart ?
[05:59] <dwight> ubuntu, it's quite easy
[05:59] <Seveas> DonVincenzo, sudo update-rc.d -f remove mysql
[05:59] <Terminus> hello. are there any mirrors for apt in ubuntu? something like ftp.jp.debian.org...
[05:59] <Revellion> Terminus: yes there is
[06:00] <Revellion> and it's the first 2 letters in the domain name
[06:00] <Revellion> i.e
[06:00] <ubuntu> Thank you so much for your help/assistance, peeps! May be next time, Dwight. I really appreciate your effort. (=
[06:00] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Terminus about mirrors
[06:00] <Terminus> oh... stupid me... i just found the wiki entry.
[06:00] <Terminus> thanks. :)
[06:00] <_native_> Is the hostap driver included in linux kernel 2.6.13.4?
[06:00] <Revellion> :)
[06:01] <DonVincenzo> Seveas: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/remove: file does not exist
[06:01] <tritium> _native_, that kernel is not in breezy
[06:01] <dunston> dwight: i got a problem, the help to add the multivers and the univers, but when it trys to get the packet list, it says it cant find the server
[06:01] <Seveas> DonVincenzo, sudo update-rc.d -f mysql remove
[06:01] <Seveas> (my mistake)
[06:02] <_native_> yeah i know, just thought id ask.  :-)
[06:02] <KinkoBlast> ERROR: cpu exception in dosemu code outside of VM86()!
[06:02] <KinkoBlast> trapno: 0x0e  errorcode: 0x00000004  cr2: 0x468a5b2d
[06:02] <KinkoBlast> eip: 0x468a5b2d  esp: 0xbfe9ffc5  eflags: 0x00010286
[06:02] <KinkoBlast> cs: 0x0073  ds: 0x007b  es: 0x007b  ss: 0x007b
[06:02] <KinkoBlast> Page fault: read instruction to linear address: 0x468a5b2d
[06:02] <KinkoBlast> CPU was in user mode
[06:02] <KinkoBlast> Exception was caused by non-available page
[06:02] <KinkoBlast> /usr/bin/dosemu: line 218:  1756 Segmentation fault      $SUDO $BINARY $XFLAG "$@"
[06:02] <KinkoBlast> Can I make it not to that?
[06:02] <mustard5> no pasting in main KinkoBlast
[06:02] <mustard5> read /topic
[06:02] <DonVincenzo> Seveas, and if I want to autostart it again,later, what should I do ?
[06:03] <Seveas> DonVincenzo, sudo update-rc.d mysql default
[06:03] <mustard5> ubotu: tell KinkoBlast about pastebin
[06:04] <DonVincenzo> Seveas: wow I respect you
[06:04] <tritium> KinkoBlast, please don't paste again
[06:05] <[bw] 808y> hi i need help
[06:05] <KinkoBlast> tritium: What do you think Mustard5 was yelling at me about?
[06:05] <[bw] 808y> i have upgraded 2 breezy from warty
[06:05] <mustard5> welcome [bw] 808y whats your question
[06:05] <[bw] 808y> but i cant still login in as root
[06:05] <tritium> KinkoBlast, pasting ;)
[06:06] <[bw] 808y> and have 2 use sudo
[06:06] <dducko> That is how its suppose to be [bw] 808y
[06:06] <[bw] 808y> no im mean i cant never login as root
[06:06] <dducko> !tell [bw] 808y about root
[06:06] <Seveas> [bw] 808y, you're not supposed to
[06:07] <cycom> [bw] 808y: login as root is bad.
[06:07] <cycom> sudo is your friend
[06:07] <adjacent> [bw] 808y: sudo -s
[06:07] <[bw] 808y> andthx
[06:07] <adjacent> [bw] 808y: and BAM! root shell
[06:07] <[bw] 808y> because i read some where that it was removed
[06:08] <mustard5> [bw] 808y, it is disabled for security and safety
[06:08] <[bw] 808y> i that way that i could login as root, but thx
[06:08] <[bw] 808y> *bigthx*
[06:08] <BFL> hi guys, I would like to install Ubuntu (5.04) on the same hard drive that I've got Gentoo running on, but I'm not sure when to do the partitioning: during the installation or before?
[06:08] <jenda> BFL: during
[06:08] <mustard5> BFL, installation
[06:08] <KinkoBlast> When I launch dosemu, it gives me the stuff here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3741
[06:08] <KinkoBlast> Can I make it NOT segfault?
[06:09] <mustard5> BFL, try expert installation if you are linux guru :)
[06:09] <cycom> BFL: I'd do it before from gentoo.  just easier.
[06:09] <adjacent> id do it before, but thats just me
[06:09] <cycom> BFL: use your existing partitions as you wish.  You can share the swap :)
[06:09] <BFL> thanks everyone. I'm no linux guru, so do you think it would be less hazardous to do it before?
[06:09] <cycom> BFL: I'd make the home dirs a partition, and each have it's own base / partition
[06:10] <trappist> KinkoBlast: what kind of cpu do you have
[06:10] <cycom> BFL: just make sure you resize them safely.  ask somone how to do that
[06:10] <bluefrog-10> is there a way to add a user to several groups in one shot?
[06:10] <KinkoBlast> trappist: Um.. pentium 2.
[06:10] <jenda> cycom, BFL: Gparted is my favorite tool for that
[06:11] <[bw] 808y> another question i have ? after "apt-get install valknut" i get " /var/cache/apt/archives/libdc0c2_0.3.7-2ubuntu2_i386.deb
[06:11] <[bw] 808y> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:11] <[bw] 808y> "
[06:11] <BFL> sharing the swap is a good idea, thanks. To do that, you should use expert mode during installation?
[06:11] <adjacent> yeh. like cycom said. use a common /home, and seperate /, /usr, and /var
[06:11] <cycom> [bw] 808y: did you run sudo apt-get install valknut?
[06:11] <mustard5> BFL, expert installation is pretty straightforward really
[06:11] <[bw] 808y> jeah i did in sudo -s
[06:11] <cycom> BFL: nah, you can just do manual partitioning when it gets to that step if you want
[06:11] <cycom> [bw] 808y: dunno then.
[06:12] <mustard5> BFL, press F1 when the install CD boots up and check out all the options
[06:12] <KinkoBlast> [bw] 808y: Don't use sudo -s
[06:12] <[bw] 808y> why
[06:12] <[bw] 808y> ^^
[06:12] <Mstrshade> are there any other repositiories that I shoudl add to my sources.list ?
[06:12] <Alex> How big's the Ubuntu repository at the moment? I'm setting up a local mirror for an install day and I need to get a harddrive accordingly
[06:12] <KinkoBlast> [bw] 808y: You run the risk of running stuff as root when you don't need to
[06:12] <cycom> adjacent, BFL, I actually moved my gentoo install from an IDE hd to a scsi hd and then made my IDE drives one big home with LVM
[06:12] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Mstrshade about repositories
[06:12] <[bw] 808y> but i need sudo 2 run apt-get right?
[06:13] <KinkoBlast> [bw] 808y: You should just prefix everything with sudo
[06:13] <mustard5> Mstrshade, check your list against the the ones from ubotu
[06:13] <cycom> [bw] 808y: sudo apt-get install <package>  try that out
[06:13] <cycom> (from your stock console)
[06:13] <GURT> that upgrade did not go so well.
[06:13] <KinkoBlast> [bw] 808y: "sudo apt-get install (whatever)
[06:13] <mustard5> [bw] 808y, its sudo apt-get install .....
[06:13] <dwight> dunston, sorry I ran out a bit
[06:13] <dwight> dunston,  you still have a package problem?
[06:13] <[bw] 808y> jeah i konw that that way ist going 2, but ist easyer with sudo -s 2 instmall maybe more than 1 package
[06:14] <Mars> Hi can someone give me URL to the program that will automaticlly mount my windows partition?
[06:14] <GURT> i can not get x to start.. says my nvidia kernal version is too low
[06:14] <BFL> thanks for the help everyone. I'll give it a go...
[06:14] <nmsa_SH> Hello
[06:14] <cycom> BFL: good luck
[06:14] <cronik> why cant i play mp3
[06:14] <cronik> anyone knows y i can"t play mp3?
[06:14] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: thats rubbish advise
[06:14] <KinkoBlast> !tell cronik about mp3
[06:15] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: prefixing everything with sudo is a pita
[06:15] <nmsa_SH> I have a problem with my sound, esd says /dev/dsp: No such device, can someone help ?!
[06:15] <dougsko> cycom: whats the differnce between lvm and raid?
[06:15] <KinkoBlast> adjacent: I said it wrong, I ment prefix everything that needs to be run as root with sudo
[06:15] <cycom> dougsko: complicated :)
[06:15] <dwight> Mars, you could just edit fstab yourself
[06:15] <dougsko> cycom: im think about setting up something kinda like that
[06:15] <GURT> B
[06:15] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: why not just load a root shell when you are running root commands?
[06:16] <[bw] 808y> has someone get running valknut at his ubuntu?
[06:16] <dougsko> cycom: i have 2 ide drives id like to basically be one
[06:16] <cycom> dougsko: Raid is supposedly more reliable and things like that, LVM is just kinda smushing two drives into one.  That's my understanding
[06:16] <KinkoBlast> adjacent: What if you run, say, wine as root on accident?
[06:16] <cycom> dougsko: exactly what I did.
[06:16] <bluefrog-10> adjacent, noob will do that and run anything
[06:16] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: then you get what you deserve i suppose =)
[06:16] <KinkoBlast> \adjacent: It's just safer.
[06:17] <KinkoBlast> adjacent: No, remember, the point of sudo is so you DON'T use a root shell :-P
[06:17] <[bw] 808y> valknut? does it running at ubuntu?
[06:17] <[bw] 808y> some one help?
[06:17] <bluefrog-10> adjacent, there is the sensible way and the stupid way, anyone free to choose his side
[06:17] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: no. it isnt. the point of sudo is to restrict root privleges by app/user and to protect the root password
[06:17] <dougsko> cycom: do you knwo if both ide drives can be on the same bus?
[06:17] <cycom> dougsko: I did some googling and found some stuff on lvm, but it'd been a while. Yeah, they can
[06:18] <dougsko> cool
[06:18] <cycom> dougsko: but it's slow
[06:18] <cycom> (nature of IDE not LVM
[06:18] <cycom> IDE doesn't like to share.
[06:18] <_jason> [bw] 808y:  have you tried installing it via synaptic?
[06:18] <dougsko> yeah
[06:18] <[bw] 808y> no
[06:18] <dougsko> im gonna look into it
[06:18] <[bw] 808y> i tried via apt-get
[06:18] <cycom> dougsko: works beautifully once you get it set up
[06:18] <KinkoBlast> adjacent: Remember what sort of linux user Ubuntu is most targeted to. Newbies.
[06:18] <_jason> [bw] 808y:  I have no experience with valknut but try synaptic and see if it works, jsut search for "valknut"
[06:18] <cycom> dougsko: in my case, I filled up and played with 260gb of storage.
[06:18] <Terminus> another mirror question, do the mirrors also mirror security.ubuntu.com?
[06:19] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: dude. root isnt disabled to protect n00bs
[06:19] <KinkoBlast> adjacent: sudo -s /n wine (some virus)
[06:19] <[bw] 808y> i will test
[06:19] <tritium> KinkoBlast, it's for security
[06:19] <farruinn> [bw] 808y: it's in universe
[06:19] <cycom> dougsko: one thing to keep in mind, any data on the LVM partitions will pretty much be lost.
[06:19] <cycom> (once you format them as LVM)
[06:19] <[bw] 808y> i have the uniserves reposi
[06:20] <dougsko> cycom: hmm...reformatting = hassle
[06:20] <KinkoBlast> tritium, adjacent: Yes, but ubuntu over all is set up to be more newbie-friendly.
[06:20] <cycom> dougsko: welcome to the world of changing your harddrive :)
[06:20] <cycom> dougsko: got a place you can make backups to?
[06:21] <KinkoBlast> tritium, adjacent: And you just KNOW someone will run wine bonzibuddy as root.
[06:21] <cycom> dougsko: what I did was made one drive lvm, mounted it, copied everything over, then formatted the original, and then added it to lvm
[06:21] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: you are flat out wrong. read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:21] <quail_linux> SysInfo: uname: Linux 2.6.10-5-686 CPU: Pentium III (Coppermine) 730.992 MHz Bogomips: 1449.98 Mem: 273/504M [||||||||||]  Diskspace: 35.26G Free: 25.27G Uptime: 2 days 18 hrs 52 mins 12 secs Load: 1.21 1.14 1.10  Procs: 81 Graphic: nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro]  (rev 15) Screen: 1280x1024 (24 bpp) nVidia Corespeed: 141.986 MHz Netinfo: eth0: In: 1.48G Out: 749.44M
[06:21] <cycom> but I didn't have my / on that drive
[06:21] <adjacent> its is NOT disabled to protect n00bs from themselves
[06:22] <dougsko> cycom: oh yeah, ive got a dvd burner. ive just done the reformatting thing a few times in the past couple months trying out bsd and such, and i just dont know if i feel like reinstalling ubuntu again after getting it pretty much just how i  want
[06:22] <KinkoBlast> adjacent: I KNOW IT'S NOT! But we have that tool, we should teach them to use it to protect themselves!
[06:22] <cycom> dougsko: then repartition.
[06:22] <dougsko> cycom: although there still definately are some bugs
[06:22] <cycom> dougsko: hehe. always. it's a computer.
[06:22] <adjacent> right. and there is nothing wrong with sudo -s....
[06:22] <dougsko> cycom: yeah good point
[06:22] <ksmurf> can anyone help me set freenx up.  I have it installed but the config of it is the issue.  anyone know anything that might help?
[06:23] <adjacent> you are just gooing to confuse someone worse by telling them to use sudo, but not sudo -s
[06:23] <zion115> hey guys does any1 know where i can find a movie player thats able to play avis and.mov's
[06:23] <KinkoBlast> adjacent: " It avoids the "I can do anything" interactive login by default -you will be prompted for a password before major changes can happen, which should make you think about the consequences of what you are doing. If you were logged in as root, you could just delete some of those "useless folders" and not realize you were in the wrong directory until it's too late. It's been good Unix practice for a long time to su-com
[06:23] <KinkoBlast> mand-^D regularly instead of staying in a root shell--unless you're doing serious system maintenance (at which point you can still sudo su. (Jim Cheetham and Andrew Sobala)"
[06:23] <limguohong91> Hey guys, i have a HP series 1350, but it appear that i can only print fron docuement but not from web-browser.the printer setting is set to HP 1300 instead of 1350 as 1350 is not there, Is there anyway to slove this?
[06:24] <eNcoR3`> could some one tel me how do i login as root ??
[06:24] <DonVincenzo> is there any podcast client able to automatically send podcasts to gtkpod ?
[06:24] <zion115> type su root
[06:24] <adjacent> eNcoR3`: hahaha
[06:24] <[bw] 808y> does also someone have problems with libdc0c2_0.3.7-2ubuntu2_i386.deb get running
[06:24] <zion115> in console
[06:24] <tritium> !tell eNcoR3` about rootsudo
[06:24] <KinkoBlast>  eNcoR3: You don't. Use sudo.
[06:24] <ksmurf> DonVincenzo Setup a Cron Job
[06:24] <zion115> oops
[06:25] <eNcoR3`> sudo????
[06:25] <cycom> sudo.
[06:25] <eNcoR3`> whats "sudo" ???
[06:25] <eNcoR3`> :S
[06:25] <limguohong91> super do
[06:25] <cycom> man sudo! :)
[06:25] <farruinn> eNcoR3`: I believe ubotu told you all about it
[06:25] <_jason> eNcoR3`:  read what ubotu sent you
[06:25] <eNcoR3`> ok
[06:25] <eNcoR3`> :D
[06:25] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: ok. im going to drop it now. i think we are more or less in agreement. you are probably right about keeping new users away from a full root shell, but i still feel like thats poor advise. better to make a mistake and learn imho
[06:26] <adjacent> eNcoR3`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:26] <[bw] 808y> some little question, mp3  ubuntu? what i need 2 install?
[06:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell [bw] 808y about mp3
[06:26] <cristian23___> hello
[06:27] <tritium> hi cristian23___
[06:27] <adjacent> [bw] 808y: go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ and type mp3 into the place that says search
[06:27] <KinkoBlast> When I launch dosemu, it gives me the stuff here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3741
[06:27] <KinkoBlast> How do I make it work?
[06:27] <ksmurf> Does anyone know anything bout freenx that would help me configure it?
[06:27] <cristian23___> i've a fresh instalation of kubuntu. It starts and show kdm without problems. But if i try to do a X -query localhost it loops forever restarting X
[06:27] <dwight> adjacent, we all dont need to make the same mistake to learn from it
[06:27] <cristian23___> and i did enabled xdcmp and * to allow connections
[06:28] <cristian23___> it seems to be something related with X because, gdm shows the same behaviour
[06:28] <cristian23___> any ideas?
[06:28] <dwight> adjacent, we can learn from other person's mistakes and advices
[06:28] <adjacent> dwight: yes. im aware of this.
[06:28] <KinkoBlast> Let's continue the sudo debate in offtopic, if we must.
[06:28] <ksmurf> cristian23 on a laptop?
[06:28] <dwight> adjacent, kool
[06:28] <Danny|> any idea why my system freezes after a few mins of playing enemy territory? using the nvidia drivers from apt-get on a GF6800LE
[06:28] <cristian23___> ksmurf: no its an amd64 box
[06:28] <dwight> KinkoBlast, ok
[06:29] <cristian23___> ksmurf: i tried both 64 and 32 bit installs
[06:29] <ksmurf> cristian23__ I'm having issues get any sort of x connection through ssh myself.....
[06:29] <cristian23___> ksmurf: the 64 bit install worked from intel boxes but not from ultrasparcs and dec unix
[06:30] <cristian23___> ksmurf: and the 32 bit don't work even from the server box
[06:30] <cristian23___> :S
[06:30] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: upgrade dosemu
[06:30] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: see here http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/linux-msdos@vger.kernel.org/2377188.html
[06:30] <ksmurf> ;S
[06:31] <KinkoBlast> adjacent: I instlaled it this morning!
[06:31] <ksmurf> cristian23__ Sounds like you know way more that I.  Sorry I can't help.
[06:31] <KinkoBlast> Did everyone else just get booted from jabber.org?
[06:31] <taiho> I have trouble getting duplex to work with alsa.
[06:31] <cristian23___> ksmurf: thanks anyway!
[06:31] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: what is the command you are running. just $ dosemu ?
[06:31] <ksmurf> cristian23__ np
[06:31] <Mstrshade> Has anyoen used win4linux on ubuntu ?
[06:32] <cristian23___> can anyone confirm if doing an X -query localhost works?
[06:32] <ksmurf> MSTrshade on hoary I did
[06:32] <KinkoBlast> adjacent:Yeh....
[06:32] <NETDREAMZ> How do I change the max resolution?
[06:32] <Mstrshade> does it work ?
[06:33] <NETDREAMZ> I'm currently 1024x768 at 85HZ I know my monitor supports 1024x1280 by 65 hz
[06:33] <cristian23___> well thanks anyway!
[06:34] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: i dnt know. works fine here
[06:34] <ksmurf> cristian23__  I have an xserver running already .... I can't seem to start more than 1
[06:34] <Hoxzer> what should I do to enable .mov's to play audio in beezy 5.1
[06:34] <pluffsy> after I updated to breezy mysql won't start. I've been looking at the page the syslog refers to, but I'm hmm not sure what to do. do you have any ideas what might have gone wrong during the update? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3742
[06:34] <KinkoBlast> adjacent: What version? I have dosemu and dosemu-freedos from the repos.
[06:34] <pluffsy> please I really need mysql running
[06:35] <ksmurf> cristian23__ tell me how to get more than 1 running and I have a box to run it on
[06:35] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: same
[06:35] <cristian23___> ksmurf: you can X :1 -query localhost to see if it start another in a new terminal
[06:35] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: i just ran apt-get install dosemu
[06:35] <ksmurf> k I''l do it
[06:35] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: perhaps try a apt-get remove --purge dosemu, and try to reinstall
[06:35] <cristian23___> thanks a lot!
[06:35] <jstrubberg> pluufsy: can you start it with just "mysql -u root -p" from a command line?
[06:35] <NETDREAMZ> How do I change my max video resolution, or even the default one?
[06:35] <KinkoBlast> adjacent: Could it be that I have an old processer? It's a P2....
[06:36] <rbelem> hello people
[06:36] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: not sure. sorry. im really not that familiar with dosemu. havent seen windows at home for years
[06:36] <rbelem> do you know where is alsaconf?
[06:36] <Revellion> pluffsy: what errors do you get once you try to /etc/init.d/mysql start it? :)
[06:36] <bluefrog-10> who could point me to a script example using diff to update files based on user input, pls no man. (cause i don't understand them or more precisely what to do with what is said in them but i understand live stuff
[06:37] <canindya> which repository contains w32codecs?
[06:37] <Revellion> canindya: multiverse
[06:37] <pluffsy> jstrubberg, that returns ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[06:37] <KinkoBlast> adjacent: Ah well. All I wanted it for was to play Lemmings, I'll live....
[06:37] <[bw] 808y> another question!: how can i listen nsv streams? totem?
[06:37] <adjacent> bluefrog-10: you mean like patch?
[06:37] <adjacent> KinkoBlast: no luck with wine?
[06:37] <rbelem> or another aplication that replace alsaconf?
[06:37] <_jason> ubotu:  u tell canindya about w32codecs
[06:37] <ubotu> _jason: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:37] <bluefrog-10> adjacent, yes
[06:37] <NETDREAMZ> How do you change screen resolution
[06:37] <NETDREAMZ> ?
[06:37] <_jason> ubotu:  tell canindya about w32codecs
[06:37] <dwight> NETDREAMZ, go to System-pref-> screen res
[06:37] <NETDREAMZ> Ok, the res I want is not in that list
[06:37] <pluffsy> Revellion, Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.
[06:37] <pluffsy>         Please take a look at the syslog.
[06:38] <adjacent> just. diff file1 file2 > mypatch.patch; then run patch
[06:38] <NETDREAMZ> the max is 1024x768 I KNOW my screen goes 1024x1280 @60hz
[06:38] <KinkoBlast> adjacent: Nope, it's an old DOS program. Wine runs it up to the point it switches to graphics then chokes.
[06:38] <NETDREAMZ> how do I change that?
[06:38] <bluefrog-10> adjacent, cool
[06:38] <[bw] 808y> _jason, how i can listen nsv stream from winamp?
[06:38] <canindya> thanks _jason
[06:38] <dwight> NETDREAMZ, what kind of card you have?
[06:38] <NETDREAMZ> riva tnt2
[06:38] <ksmurf> cristian23__  k it's running (remotely)
[06:38] <_jason> [bw] 808y:  sorry I'm not familiar with winamp on linux or n sv streams for that matter... maybe someone else can help
[06:39] <[bw] 808y> oki may be, np thx
[06:39] <Revellion> pluffsy: and you tried that as root i hope
[06:39] <Revellion> and not as your user ^_^
[06:39] <KinkoBlast> [bw] 808y: Try vlc
[06:39] <cristian23___> ok thanks a lot!
[06:39] <dwight> NETDREAMZ, do you have yours drivers installed?
[06:40] <NETDREAMZ> no, didn't get that far yet, was going to try and follow a how-to on setting up a server, also, didn't know where to get em
[06:40] <NETDREAMZ> lol
[06:40] <pluffsy> Revellion, well with sudo anyway. I have no root.
[06:40] <cristian23___> ksmurf: its a 64 or 32 bit box?
[06:40] <ksmurf> cristian23__  k it's running locally but gnome hasn't comeup yet
[06:40] <Revellion> pluffsy: close enough
[06:40] <NETDREAMZ> should that be my first step
[06:40] <NETDREAMZ> ?
[06:40] <Revellion> pluffsy: hmm
[06:40] <ksmurf> cristian23__  32 bit 686 laptop
[06:40] <enyc> a0000
[06:40] <Revellion> pluffsy: checked the logs?
[06:40] <Revellion> pluffsy: /var/log/mysql
[06:41] <flocrypt> hello everyone
[06:41] <NETDREAMZ> and there are no linux drivers for my biostar board that I can find, is this an issue?
[06:41] <al> Hi Ya'll
[06:41] <pluffsy> Revellion, did you see the stuff I pasted from syslog?
[06:41] <adjacent> [bw] 808y: try mplayer for nsv streams
[06:41] <Revellion> pluffsy: nope :|
[06:41] <flocrypt> i could use some help getting my soundcard to work...
[06:41] <dwight> NETDREAMZ, it could be
[06:41] <pluffsy> Revellion, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3742
[06:41] <al> Just installed Ubuntu
[06:41] <al> tryin it out now
[06:42] <NETDREAMZ> Will it do damage to my hardware? Or just possibly create an unstable environment
[06:42] <cristian23___> ksmurf: thanks for the info
[06:42] <dwight> NETDREAMZ, what?
[06:42] <Revellion> pluffsy: try dpkg-reconfigure mysql
[06:42] <wickers> Anyone want to tackle a common disk activity problem?
[06:43] <Revellion> wickers: depends
[06:43] <Revellion> describe it :)
[06:43] <NETDREAMZ> not having actual "biostar" drivers for my board. You know how the board comes with a drivers cd, install's all the chipset drivers and all that for windows. Is that something I need to be concerned with with Ubuntu running on it rather than windows
[06:43] <dwight> This should be your the driver for the card - xserver-xorg-driver-nv. Check synaptic and see if it is installed
[06:43] <pluffsy> Revellion, hmm it says mysql is not installed. but that can't be the case, right? should I try like mysql-server instead?
[06:43] <wickers> So... I've seen this problem on my desktop with gnome since the 2.6 release of gnome... every other second or so ~20k of data is being written to my disk.
[06:44] <flocrypt> hello, is there anyone who would like to help me resolve a soundcardproblem? would be so nice...
[06:44] <wickers> Now, I thought it was a bug related to my hardware and some driver issue on my desktop...
[06:44] <wickers> but I just noticed it now on my laptop too...
[06:44] <NETDREAMZ> it is installed
[06:44] <wickers> after updating to ubuntu 5.10
[06:44] <dwight> NETDREAMZ, you can go to the board and see if there site supports drivers for Ubuntu Linux
[06:44] <wickers> I can't seem to figure out what is writting to the disk.
[06:44] <NETDREAMZ> they don't they barely support windows drivers :(
[06:44] <dwight> NETDREAMZ, board site*
[06:45] <Revellion> pluffsy: try reinstalling it yes
[06:45] <NETDREAMZ> that's what I'm saying, if I CAN'T get drivers would it be an issue
[06:45] <Revellion> pluffsy: apt-get install mysql-server in that case
[06:45] <[devil-boy] > hello
[06:45] <Revellion> i noticed myself that when i dist-upgrade'd from hoary to breezy
[06:45] <[devil-boy] > i have been looking at some videos
[06:45] <flocrypt> hello
[06:45] <Revellion> that some packages sort of got ... .lost
[06:45] <dwight> NETDREAMZ, no...the default drivers should work fine :-)
[06:45] <[devil-boy] > but the refresh rate is very poor
[06:45] <wickers> This did not happen with 5.04, so I thought I was past this issue... but now with 5.10, it's back. :(
[06:45] <NETDREAMZ> ok
[06:45] <[devil-boy] > what could be causing this?
[06:46] <wickers> [devil-boy] , a low refresh rate maybe?
[06:46] <pluffsy> Revellion, I should not try dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server first?
[06:46] <[devil-boy] > 60MHZ
[06:46] <[devil-boy] > i don't think it would be that
[06:46] <Revellion> wickers: swapping perhaps?
[06:46] <pluffsy> Revellion, sorry for all the quesiton. just don't want to mess it up more.
[06:46] <[devil-boy] > maybe some issue with the graphics
[06:46] <flocrypt> ok by then, i'll try later
[06:46] <wickers> Revellion, how could I check if it's swap?
[06:46] <NETDREAMZ> I know that my monitor will do 1024x1280@60hz, it does in a windows environment, but the max that the screen resolution gui will let me pick is 1024x768@85hz, how do I add 1024x1280@60hz to my choices?
[06:46] <wickers> currently no swap is being used.
[06:46] <Revellion> pluffsy: well if dpkg-reconfigure tells you that the package can't be configured then you should apt-get install mysql-server to get the lost files back
[06:47] <wickers> as well, it only happens when I log into a gnome desktop.
[06:47] <wickers>  KDE does not suffer from this.
[06:47] <wickers> nor does it happen in GDM.
[06:47] <enyc> hrrm i use 1152x864@100hz
[06:47] <Revellion> wickers: then there's something that does I/O sometimes to the drive
[06:47] <Revellion> to find which one could be a bit tricky
[06:47] <wickers> Yes, is has been.
[06:47] <Revellion> do you anything on the Gnome desktop that could possible do IO?
[06:47] <NETDREAMZ> I have an older monitor I can do , 1280x1024@60hz but it won't let me select that
[06:47] <andi5> hi. maybe someone can give me an answer today ;) i am currently trying to jigdo ubuntu, but it cannot find "hw-detect-full_1.18ubuntu2_all.udeb". any hint for me, please? thanks in advance!
[06:48] <pluffsy> Revellion, right. thanks.
[06:48] <[devil-boy] > how much free space is recommended so that unbuntu runs well?
[06:48] <wickers> I first found this bug with gnome 2.6 on slackware on my desktop... gave it a shot there... but could not figure it out, ended up switching to KDE
[06:48] <jstrubberg> pluffsy, it sounds to me like you have the mysql client, but not the server.  How did you upgrade, BTW?
[06:48] <DonVincenzo> how can I know if my ipod is on sda1, sda2,etc ?
[06:48] <Revellion> wickers: what's the problem if it does write to the disk now and then btw?
[06:48] <pluffsy> jstrubberg, via the instructions in the wiki, in synaptic. changed all hoary to breezy.
[06:49] <Revellion> my box does that too sometimes :|
[06:49] <wickers> Now, I love Ubuntu as a distro, and 4.10, and 5.04 showed no sign of this so I thought I was in the clear... but this is just disapointing.
[06:49] <Revellion> i.e swapping inactive memory pages to swap
[06:49] <jstrubberg> try apt-get upgrade mysql-server  If it isn't installed you should get an error.
[06:49] <Revellion> wickers: also if it's swapping that does it you could check by disabling all swapping
[06:49] <Revellion> echo'ing 0 to /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[06:49] <Revellion> but that's merely a test to rule it out
[06:49] <[devil-boy] > how much free space is recommended so that unbuntu runs well??
[06:50] <wickers> Revellion, the problem is that if it's rewriting over the same spot, I'd rather like to keep the health of my drive... as well, this is a laptop and if it's writing, then it won't spin down the drive.
[06:50] <Revellion> [devil-boy] : i ran it on a 2GB drive on an old box
[06:50] <Hoxzer_> how do I install w32codecs to beezy 5.1?
[06:50] <Hoxzer_> just tell me the repo
[06:50] <bur[n] er> [devil-boy] : 5-6 gigs if you want kubuntu & ubuntu
[06:50] <bur[n] er> !w32codecs
[06:50] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[06:50] <MenZa`> ubotu tell Hoxzer about w32codecs
[06:50] <canindya> _jason : the website contains w32codecs for i386 but I am running Ubuntu on amd64, any pointers?
[06:50] <Revellion> wickers: health part i can't comprehend :|
[06:50] <wickers> Revellion, I have a gig of Ram... and no swap is being used  ATM... it does not seem to be swap related, as it only happens when logged into a gnome desktop.
[06:50] <Revellion> but the problem of not spinning down could be one i could understand
[06:51] <Revellion> wickers: hmm
[06:51] <wickers> I like battery life personally... :)
[06:51] <Revellion> wickers: what processes are runned together with your Gnome session?
[06:51] <wickers> This is a fresh install..
[06:51] <MenZa`> !menza
[06:51] <ubotu> MenZa`: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:51] <MenZa`> :o
[06:51] <Revellion> fire up the Gnome session and do a pstree
[06:51] <MenZa`> !tell us about menza
[06:51] <MenZa`> ack
[06:52] <_jason> canindya:  I believe they should still work but I don't know for sure.  Read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62685
[06:52] <wickers> Revellion, would you like me to pm you the result?
[06:52] <Revellion> wickers: that or use pastebin
[06:52] <bur[n] er> !bot abuse
[06:52] <ubotu> bot abuse is, like, totally, a bannable offense
[06:52] <Revellion> if you use PM you might aswell use a DCC Chat session
[06:52] <Revellion> or the IRC Server might kick you for flooding
[06:52] <grodius> if im running a soundblaster card, what pipeline should i do in audio options under custom?
[06:53] <DonVincenzo> how can I setup my computer to start gtkpod when it automounts my Ipod ?
[06:53] <pluffsy> Revellion, check this out please http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3743
[06:53] <eNcoR3`> how do i setup my modem to connect internet on ubuntu breezy badjer??
[06:53] <wickers>  /msg for unregistered uses like myself seem to be blocked... so what about this pastebin?
[06:54] <wickers> Not new to linux, but an IRC noob completely. hehe
[06:54] <Mars> !tell me about mounting
[06:54] <Mars> :/
[06:54] <farruinn> anyone know what type of font *.dfont is and if it can be used on linux?
[06:55] <eNcoR3`> it detects modem but i could not conect to internet
[06:55] <wickers> man mount... not to be all "RTFM" or anything, but really, there is a lot of information in mount's man page that you'll be happy after you read it.
[06:55] <_jason> canindya:  after reading it over it seems like they will only work if you run a 32bit mplayer, but that post may be helpful to you
[06:55] <andi5> anybody here that does not want to lose me as a potential ubuntu user? (asking a bit more aggressively now ;))
[06:55] <farruinn> andi5: are you having a problem?
[06:55] <andi5> farruinn: yeah, my jigdo cannot find "hw-detect-full_1.18ubuntu2_all.udeb" :D
[06:56] <jstrubberg> Anyone with mail server experience?  I can't get a user (any of 'em) to authenticate with IMAP.
[06:56] <andi5> farruinn: and i have no idea what to do :(
[06:56] <dwight> exit
[06:56] <canindya> _jason, I am going thruogh it :)
[06:57] <carbon_monoxide> Hello
[06:57] <taiho> How do I check my kernel version?
[06:57] <andi5> taiho: uname -r
[06:57] <wickers> uname -a
[06:57] <taiho> thanks
[06:57] <wickers> Linux evilBook 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:57] <carbon_monoxide> wow
[06:58] <carbon_monoxide> buddies here are real nice
[06:58] <carbon_monoxide> :-)
[06:58] <andi5> hi carbon_monoxide btw :D
[06:58] <farruinn> andi5: I can't help you, but for future reference it's better to just ask your question
[06:58] <carbon_monoxide> :-)
[06:58] <carbon_monoxide> Hi andi5
[06:58] <Revellion> pluffsy: seems your upgrade from hoary to breezy did'nt go too smooth
[06:58] <carbon_monoxide> I'm a new Ubuntu user
[06:58] <Revellion> pluffsy: apt-get install  <= nothing after it
[06:58] <Revellion> pluffsy: or try apt-get upgrade <= same again nothing after it
[06:58] <Revellion> to make sure the upgrading did'nt miss any packages
[06:59] <pluffsy> Revellion, some components called lsb-something doesn't work too. is that something important?
[06:59] <carbon_monoxide> I just installed Ubuntu few hours ago
[06:59] <Revellion> pluffsy: apt-get -f install ? :)
[06:59] <andi5> farruinn: ok, i will put it into a question: where can i get this file? (jigdo is a nice tool downloading a template and a lot of small pieces (ubuntu pkgs) and builds the iso locally)
[06:59] <Revellion> my upgrade did'nt go too smooth neither
[06:59] <Revellion> so apt-get -f install solved most
[06:59] <pluffsy> Revellion, apt-get install returned 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[07:00] <Revellion> and -f upgrade can be checked too :|
[07:00] <pluffsy> same with -f
[07:00] <wickers> Revellion, I've found that this is where ubuntu is still a bit lacking... in the dist-update
[07:00] <Revellion> hmm
[07:00] <Revellion> wickers: you mean dist-upgrade? :)
[07:00] <Revellion> and yes it is'nt as smooth as it should be
[07:00] <pluffsy> upgrade not dist-upgrade?
[07:00] <Revellion> but i don't complain too much :)
[07:00] <wickers> went from 4.10 to 5.04, ran into tons of problems... ended up doing a clean install.
[07:00] <wickers> worked fine after that..
[07:01] <wickers> till this problem with 5.10 that is.
[07:01] <pluffsy> when I updated in synaptic I selected smart upgrade or whatever that is the same as dist-upgrade right?
[07:01] <Revellion> well 5.04 -> 5.10 went relativly smooth for me
[07:01] <[bw] 808y> a new question : i cannt type the "at" i mean that xyz"at"web.org what i have 2 do
[07:01] <farruinn> andi5: there is a jigdo package in the universe repository
[07:01] <Revellion> [bw] 808y: X or Console? :)
[07:01] <Phinite> what's the package to get the basic development stuff?
[07:01] <farruinn> Phinite: build-essential
[07:01] <Revellion> Phinite: apt-get install build-essential ? :)
[07:01] <Phinite> thank you
[07:01] <Revellion> damn beat me to it
[07:01] <petrin> hey man
[07:01] <marcob> hey
[07:01] <petrin> sup dj ice
[07:02] <marcob> hows it going\
[07:02] <[bw] 808y> its very important i can type "at"
[07:02] <petrin> good good
[07:02] <farruinn> Revellion: blame it on lag ;)
[07:02] <Revellion> Phinite: and for related -dev packages to get libs and headers for some stuff it's just <package>-dev :|
[07:02] <[bw] 808y> plz help me
[07:02] <Revellion> farruinn: nope
[07:02] <petrin> who are  uou ajdd???
[07:02] <Revellion> farruinn: slowness on my part
[07:02] <marcob> i can help
[07:02] <andi5> farruinn: sorry, but i try to _build the ubuntu iso_. i have jigdo. but not the one missing package file :)
[07:02] <joe_alf> how do i make this work on bash script 'mount -o loop -t iso9660 $I /media/iso' the variable $I doesn't work if i place the the quote
[07:02] <Revellion> [bw] 808y: well are you in X or the Console?
[07:02] <pluffsy> Revellion, apt-get -f upgrade returned the same thing. the package that is not upgraded is xfce4-mixer
[07:02] <[bw] 808y> i cannt type the "at"
[07:02] <[bw] 808y> in X
[07:02] <[bw] 808y> in gnomw
[07:02] <marcob> hey ardie\
[07:02] <Revellion> [bw] 808y: got the right Keyboard layout?
[07:02] <marcob> yes
[07:03] <[bw] 808y> where i have 2 change ist in gnome or in x-config?
[07:03] <joe_alf> tried doing this 'mount -o loop -t iso9660' $I '/media/iso' but doesn't work either
[07:03] <Revellion> [bw] 808y: in the Gnome settings for the Keyboard perhaps?
[07:03] <wickers> So I call up MS the other day... because own a copy of XP pro, and have a key for SP1 install cds... however all I have  is SP2 install media... they wanted to charge me 15 bucks US to release a new key... that's bullshit.
[07:03] <andi5> joe_alf: quote with ->"<- if you want variable substitution
[07:03] <[bw] 808y> omg thx
[07:03] <[bw] 808y> ^^
[07:03] <dell500> anyonek now if the file browser for gnome does tabbing?
[07:04] <farruinn> andi5: I see what you're saying now. I've never used jigdo, but maybe they can help in #ubuntu-devel
[07:04] <Revellion> dell500: as far as i know..
[07:04] <Revellion> Nautilus does'nt use any tabs :|
[07:04] <andi5> farruinn: yeah, i will ask there... i did not know this channel!
[07:04] <corincole> hey all
[07:04] <Phinite> in theory I've installed a brother printer on the system
[07:04] <Phinite> how can I test it from the command line?
[07:04] <joe_alf> andi5, this is what is in my script 'mount -o loop -t iso9660 $I /media/iso'
[07:04] <Revellion> Phinite: using lpr?
[07:04] <Revellion> Phinite: or something :|
[07:05] <Revellion> lpr
[07:05] <JustSteve> Hey, did the copy+paste daemon thingy for gnome not get included into Breezy?
[07:05] <Revellion> followed by some text
[07:05] <Revellion> then Ctrl-D
[07:05] <Phinite> the cupswrapper
[07:05] <andi5> joe_alf: why do you quote that?
[07:05] <couzy> yatil du monde qui parle francais ?
[07:05] <grodius> Anyone here use 855resolution ?
[07:05] <DonVincenzo> couzy: #ubuntu-fr ?
[07:05] <ajdd> simple question, im probably missing something obvious lol. i have the windows floppy disk in (that was the only way i could think of getting the cd drive to be recognised) and I was wondering how I can get the ubuntu installation to run with command prompt.
[07:05] <wickers> Phinite, #banner hello > /dev/lpr (or /dev/[yourprinterhere] )
[07:05] <couzy> qqun a-t-il dj install Enlightenement sous Brezzy ???
[07:06] <joe_alf> andi5, here is the exact line gksu -u user gnome-sudo 'mount -o loop -t iso9660 $I /media/iso'
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> wow
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> X froze when I logged out
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> my keyboard made the computer beep
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> I had to ssh in and kill gdm, then restart it
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> ajdd,  Huh?   You are saying the Install cd dosent boot properly?
[07:06] <joe_alf> andi5, if remove the quote it doesn't work
[07:06] <pluffsy> Revellion, any more ideas? :( am I fucked? because my cd-burner is broken and after downloading it too like 4 hours to install breezy on this computer. so I would reeeeally like to get mysql-server running without reinstall of ubuntu.
[07:06] <andi5> joe_alf: what happens when you just use " instead of ', just like i told you to do? ;)
[07:06] <joe_alf> andi5, what is that again
[07:07] <Revellion> pluffsy: hmm
[07:07] <Revellion> pluffsy: --> PM
[07:07] <joe_alf> andi5, okey i'll try that
[07:07] <grodius> What is vbios?
[07:07] <Revellion> VBIOS = Video BIOS(Basic IO System) >_>
[07:07] <carbon_monoxide> I can't change my monitor resolution to 1280 x 1024
[07:07] <ajdd> Dr_Willis, well I can't boot from CD without the Windows setup disk (which has the cd driver on it) and I can't really think what to do. I'm completely lost lol
[07:08] <joe_alf> andi5, it work thanks a lot
[07:08] <DonVincenzo> couzy tu devrais aller sur #ubuntu-fr, a ne sert  rien de parler en franais ici ...
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> ajdd,  the windows 'disk' has noting to do with the linux installer.. if the cd wont boot. you need to check your cd, and check the bios ti make sure its set to boot the cd.
[07:08] <andi5> joe_alf: for reference: " allows variable substitution ($I gets substituted), ' does not
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> ajdd,  if your system cant boot ANY bootable cd.. you may need to find an installer/floppy disk image.
[07:09] <ajdd> hmm. how do i do that? :P
[07:09] <joe_alf> andi5, i'll take note of that tnx
[07:09] <KinkoBlast> ajdd: Did you check your BIOS settings?
[07:09] <ajdd> yeh
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> ajdd,  check the cd also. be sure you biurnt it right. and its not got a single huge ubutu.iso file on it. :P
[07:10] <ajdd> it was from the ubuntu distribution thing
[07:10] <wickers> ok, well to be honest... I don't have the time to go over my disk issue... I'll just reinstall with KDE from a kubuntu install disk.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> ajdd,  its one the ubuntu guys sent you - you mean?
[07:11] <ajdd> yeah
[07:11] <carbon_monoxide> Any hint on selecting monitor resolution to 1280 x 1024?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> ajdd,  how old is this computer system anyway? whats its specs?
[07:11] <canindya> _jason,  no luck :(
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> carbon_monoxide,  theres a 'x modeline' generator web site that can make the custome modelines. Ive used it in the past.
[07:12] <wickers> this is disapointing though... I really like Gnome...
[07:12] <freemanen> how do get vibra 16 to work in ubuntu?
[07:12] <ajdd> quite new really. 378mb of ram, 1ghz...
[07:12] <enyc> free: errr isapnp card [?] 
[07:13] <freemanen> ??
[07:14] <jstrubberg> You know, my biggest complaint after messing with ubuntu over the last year is that linux folks in general absolutely refuse to do any documentation on programs their software is dependent on.  Makes it a real pain in the butt to get anything complex up and running.
[07:15] <enyc> free: try the ''snd-sb16'' module
[07:15] <ajdd> ? :)
[07:15] <stimpie> jstrubberg, you can always document it yourself ;-) or pay someone to do it.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. I tend to find a great deal of docs. :P but they are written by people for people that already know the basics.
[07:16] <enyc> free:
[07:16] <carbon_monoxide> Dr_Willis, would you throw me the URL please?
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> I find that often people dont read the docs anyway, even  if they do exist.
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> carbon_monoxide,  google for  modeline generator
[07:16] <gnomefreak> is korn avalible through apt for ubuntu?
[07:16] <carbon_monoxide> thanks Dr_Willis
[07:16] <enyc> free: is this an isa 'pnp' card [no IOS0 IOS1 jumpers]  ?
[07:16] <jstrubberg> Example....phpgroupware is a dynamite application, but the is ZERo documentation on how to get all of the required dependencies running.  Ergo, unless you already have an operation mail server, you are hosed.
[07:16] <freemanen> what do I write just snd-sb16 dosen't work?
[07:16] <freemanen> pnp?
[07:17] <enyc> free plup-and-play official name
[07:17] <freemanen> don't know
[07:18] <pizux> merde sa foire seb@ubuntux:/usr/local/bin$ export RUNE_DATA_PATH /usr/local/bin
[07:18] <pizux> bash: export: `/usr/local/bin': not a valid identifier
[07:18] <enyc> free: try 'sudo modprobe snd-sb16' to load the alsa sb16 driver
[07:18] <EasterSunshine> hello, i was wondering what is the command to invoke the pureftpd daemon to start? it was like `invoke-rc pureftpd start` or something?
[07:18] <pizux> une idee
[07:19] <pizux> how to change datapath?
[07:19] <freemanen> sudo modprobe snd-sb16
[07:19] <freemanen> Password:
[07:19] <freemanen> FATAL: Error inserting snd_sb16 (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-sb16.ko): No such device
[07:19] <freemanen> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_sb16
[07:19] <enyc> hmm
[07:19] <frank23> freemanen: are you sure that is the right module for your card?
[07:19] <stimpie> jstrubberg, there are plenty tutorials on getting apache,mysql and php running
[07:20] <enyc> well free said 'vibra 16'
[07:20] <enyc> but didnt give any more details
[07:20] <TiMiDo> freemanen try looking with modconf
[07:21] <freemanen> oki
[07:21] <Sandollar> someone want to tell me how to get or where to get the w32codecs
[07:21] <enyc> fre: please give more info on the card iitself....
[07:21] <freemanen> oki have to look at it then
[07:21] <TiMiDo> !tell Sandollar about w32codecs
[07:21] <enyc> Sand: see  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:22] <Sandollar> thanks all
[07:22] <TiMiDo> np
[07:22] <corincole> what is the command-line software to open text files?
[07:22] <jstrubberg> vi
[07:22] <TiMiDo> nano
[07:22] <DonVincenzo> can somebody give the adress of the backport mirror he is using, because I have a 404 for each I am trying ???
[07:22] <corincole> thanks
[07:23] <gnomefreak> DonVincenzo, what ubuntu version?
[07:23] <jstrubberg> stimpie, I agree.  So far I haven't found much of anything on IMAp, though
[07:23] <Phinite> Revellion, sorry, I missed your response about the printer.  I think I should start simple.  how do I tell if I have lps or cups installed?
[07:23] <DonVincenzo> gnomefreak: breezy
[07:23] <ajdd> can anyone think what's wrong?
[07:23] <Hoxzer> there should be bitcomet for linux ;(
[07:23] <gnomefreak> DonVincenzo, no backports for breezy
[07:23] <Revellion> Phinite: dpkg -l cupsys cupsd ?
[07:23] <gnomefreak> DonVincenzo, comment them out of your sources list
[07:24] <Phinite> cupsys is installed, no match for cupsd
[07:24] <gnomefreak> !korn
[07:24] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, gnomefreak
[07:24] <kandoora_> has anyone heard of autopackage
[07:24] <TiMiDo> yeah
[07:24] <DonVincenzo> gnomefreak: canonical means Breezy ?
[07:25] <TiMiDo> why?
[07:25] <Crys_server> Hey all.
[07:25] <kandoora_> do u think it's better to autopackage or apt-get
[07:25] <gnomefreak> canonical???
[07:25] <Crys_server> I need to know how to get my ip address.
[07:25] <Revellion> apt for the win :)
[07:25] <Revellion> autopackage is a somewhat good concept but has some major flaws :|
[07:25] <gnomefreak> Crys_server, ifconfig
[07:25] <Crys_server> Also, it has to be a term command.
[07:25] <Crys_server> gnomefreak, thanks.
[07:25] <zion115> package apt didnt work fo me
[07:25] <kandoora_> such as?
[07:26] <jared2> has anyone around here tried DriftNet ?
[07:26] <gnomefreak> yw Crys_server
[07:26] <kandoora_> ok, i know that you don't find a lot of apps but which one is better
[07:26] <jared2> it sniifs the network and display the images it finds on the screen
[07:26] <TiMiDo> kandoora_ apt-get
[07:26] <JustSteve> Wasn't the copy/paste for closed applications supposed to be fixed in Gnome 2.12?
[07:26] <Revellion> kandoora_: http://www.licquia.org/archives/2005/03/27/autopackage-considered-harmful/
[07:26] <gnomefreak> DonVincenzo, what do you mean canonical??\
[07:26] <kandoora_> Revellion, what are the flaws
[07:27] <DonVincenzo> gnomefreak: somebody on another channel told me that backports are also available for Breezy
[07:27] <Crys_server> gnomefreak, Which one is my global Ip?
[07:27] <TiMiDo> DonVincenzo read the topic
[07:27] <gnomefreak> DonVincenzo,  backports cant be used due to that backports use next release versiona nd dapper hasnt really been started
[07:28] <gnomefreak> DonVincenzo,  type /topic
[07:28] <Crys_server> poor gerard.
[07:28] <zion115> any1 know how to open ports for my torrents?
[07:28] <Phinite> where can I learn about printing in linux in general?  a basic introduction
[07:28] <zion115> on ubuntu
[07:28] <DonVincenzo> gnomefreak: so this explain a 404 error ? and why breezy extra is working ?
[07:28] <gnomefreak> Crys_server, that i dont know
[07:28] <Mea_Culpa> hello
[07:29] <zion115> hi
[07:29] <TiMiDo> Phinite try www.linuxdoc.org
[07:29] <DonVincenzo> ok
[07:29] <TiMiDo> is a good tutorial
[07:29] <DonVincenzo> thank you gnomefreak !
[07:29] <Mea_Culpa> Anyway here who knows about an Imac distortion problem from the line-out? It's not ALSA or OSS specific. It's on every damn linux system I try except for an old yellowdog version that I forgot.
[07:29] <gnomefreak> DonVincenzo, breezy cant use backports and since it cant you are getting a 404 error  404=not found
[07:29] <TiMiDo> Mea_Culpa lspci
[07:29] <zion115> any1?
[07:29] <Mea_Culpa> THis is the main problem why I might remove linux from my computer even though it works well...
[07:30] <TiMiDo> Mea_Culpa you shouldn't give up that easily
[07:30] <DonVincenzo> gnomefreak: what is the difference between breezy-backports and breezy-extra ?
[07:30] <gnomefreak> DonVincenzo, once backports become available your help icon has a breezy manual in it and has a back port listed but it will be atleast a month or 2 down the line before you can use backports
[07:30] <TiMiDo> DonVincenzo dude there's no backports
[07:30] <TiMiDo> are you dumb?
[07:30] <Mea_Culpa> TiMiDo, I tried almost everything.
[07:30] <TiMiDo> Mea_Culpa debian should get the sound card working
[07:31] <corincole> hey, im using command, line, and i cant get links or lynx to login to gmail.com ...  what other software is there?
[07:31] <Mea_Culpa> I works...
[07:31] <TiMiDo> just adduser $USER
[07:31] <Mea_Culpa> but distorted line-out
[07:31] <zion115> I need to open some ports any ideas or instructions you guys can point me too?
[07:31] <TiMiDo> huh Mea_Culpa?
[07:31] <zion115> plz
[07:31] <DonVincenzo> TiMiDo: ok, I undesrtood there is no. I just wanted to know what is the diff, etc...
[07:31] <TiMiDo> zion115 try connecting to the routers Ip
[07:31] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with getting PHP MySQL support for apache2??
[07:31] <gnomefreak> DonVincenzo, i dont have extras in my sources so i couldnt tell you but if your using mirrormax you will get 404 error anyway
[07:31] <corincole> adduser?
[07:31] <corincole> me?
[07:31] <zion115> ive already opened the routers ports
[07:31] <zion115> required
[07:31] <TiMiDo> zion115 then what client is it?
[07:31] <zion115> torrent
[07:32] <zion115> azureus
[07:32] <TiMiDo> yeah i know is it a GUI, or text
[07:32] <zion115> gui
[07:32] <TiMiDo> ok well messed with the preferences
[07:32] <TiMiDo> then
[07:32] <Mea_Culpa> Samw with DRI....crashes on every distro I tried. Currently trying it with gentoo , same problem.
[07:32] <zion115> ok
[07:32] <corincole> and links2 wont let me use gmail.com either...
[07:32] <corincole> ???
[07:32] <TiMiDo> zion115 that's how you learn on Linux by messing up things ):D
[07:32] <TiMiDo> corincole nope used links
[07:32] <Mea_Culpa> And a working sound is really one of my top priorities with this computer :-(
[07:32] <TiMiDo> it's nice, and Easy
[07:32] <corincole> links wont work for me...
[07:33] <zion115> ive done that for a few days now havnt broken anything yet :)
[07:33] <TiMiDo> Mea_Culpa well, debian should auto detect, the sound card and get it working but you have to do adduser $user so u can get the sound card working
[07:33] <TiMiDo> cool zion115
[07:33] <Distro^Junkie> had a copy of 5.04 ubuntu is it hard to get it to update to the latest ?
[07:33] <corincole> "this version of links does not contain SSL/TLS support"...  that comes for links and links2
[07:33] <zion115> why is your text red and mine grey?
[07:33] <TiMiDo> corincole apt-cache search links
[07:33] <corincole> what?
[07:33] <Mea_Culpa> TiMiDo, But I already told the soundcard works correctly. Built-in speakers also work great.but the line-out is distorted.
[07:34] <TiMiDo> zion115 because i called youre nickname on Xchat
[07:34] <Mea_Culpa> Must be a mixer setting but nothing that is visible for me. Tried everything
[07:34] <TiMiDo> oh
[07:34] <zion115> o how do i change my text color
[07:34] <gnomefreak> Distro^Junkie, not really but i (me personally) advise burning breezy and doing fresh install
[07:34] <TiMiDo> there's no way u can't fixed it Mea_Culpa ?
[07:34] <Mea_Culpa> Big problem for me...
[07:34] <bettong_BOFH> ok i have a problem here
[07:34] <Mea_Culpa> TiMiDo, I do not have coding stills but I tried multiple distros....
[07:34] <Distro^Junkie> ok thanx gnomefreak
[07:34] <gnomefreak> Distro^Junkie, yw
[07:34] <Mea_Culpa> Even tried OSS instead of ALSA
[07:35] <Mea_Culpa> same problem....
[07:35] <corincole> i did apt-cache search links....  got a long list...???
[07:35] <bettong_BOFH> i did this ndiswrapper thing and got my wireless card to run perfectly
[07:35] <TiMiDo> damn
[07:35] <bettong_BOFH> even wrote a how to
[07:35] <TiMiDo> ok bettong_BOFH
[07:35] <TiMiDo> cool
[07:35] <bettong_BOFH> anywho i woke up thismorning
[07:35] <bettong_BOFH> and my card will not run and i have no idea why
[07:35] <Distro^Junkie> shoot all I got is dvd's left to burn on
[07:35] <UnL0cK> hihi
[07:35] <TiMiDo> k3b r0x
[07:35] <TiMiDo> hi UnL0cK
[07:35] <zion115> hihi
[07:35] <bettong_BOFH> and i do not know where to go in the file system to see what is wrong
[07:36] <bettong_BOFH> does anyone have any idea?
[07:36] <matw> Hi all. I'm trying to use FreeNX server (ubuntu) with Win client. Authentication happens, but then X shuts down. X Error:  BadWindow
[07:36] <UnL0cK> how do i join several servers with xchaT?
[07:36] <corincole> brb
[07:36] <TiMiDo> UnL0cK right click on server or something like that and new server tab
[07:36] <Seveas> UnL0cK, /newserver
[07:36] <UnL0cK> thx Seveas
[07:36] <gnomefreak> Distro^Junkie,  type   "/topic"   without quotes and click the link for upgrade
[07:36] <bettong_BOFH> so anyone have any idea what might have crashed my card?
[07:37] <derchilligephil> http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/5.0.html which version should i take
[07:37] <bettong_BOFH> i don't know where to look for errors
[07:37] <UnL0cK> that's problem #8 :P i have to solve the others :P
[07:37] <bettong_BOFH> anyone have an idea
[07:37] <Mea_Culpa> TiMiDo, The problem I have I just also found on a gentoo forum. But it has nothing to do with gentoo specific because It's on every distro I use.
[07:37] <zion115> matw : i have the same problem with quake3
[07:37] <Mea_Culpa> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-74440-highlight-imac+distortion.html
[07:37] <bettong_BOFH> i don't wanna have to redo ubuntu because i can't get something to work
[07:37] <JustSteve> does anyone know what happened to Gnome Clipboard Management in Breezy?
[07:38] <derchilligephil> Linux (x86, glibc-2.3, dynamic, gcc) is this ok for ubunut ?
[07:38] <Mea_Culpa> Reinstalling a system is not needed most of the time on Linux bettong_BOFH
[07:38] <matw> startx works just fine, I get a nice GNOME desktop. problem only with FreeNX
[07:38] <bettong_BOFH> Mea_Culpa,  i know this
[07:38] <holycow> hey, just out of curiosity, are there certification possibilities against ubuntu?
[07:38] <bettong_BOFH> i just don't know how to fix this problem
[07:38] <bettong_BOFH> i had enough of a time getting it to work in the first place
[07:39] <Mea_Culpa> ah ok , just a thought :)
[07:39] <bettong_BOFH> and it did flawlessly for 6 days
[07:39] <andrew> hey all - i need to save an image of an entire drive (the root partition) - how can i do this?
[07:39] <bettong_BOFH> then i installed something that had to do with kde and some other stuff in ubuntu and i got screwd
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> andrew,  'dd' can do it - but what do ya want to do with it afterwards is the big question.
[07:40] <andrew> Dr_Willis, i need to duplicate the drive later ... actually just the partition
[07:40] <Mea_Culpa> I hate KDE ;-)
[07:40] <Mea_Culpa> prefer gnome
[07:40] <rsosborn> hey I got a easy dumb question
[07:40] <rsosborn> how to a view my IP
[07:40] <rsosborn> in terminal
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> andrew,  you may want to look into 'mondo/mindi' its a backup/restore system.
[07:40] <matw> ifconfig
[07:40] <rsosborn> I thought it was ipconfig
[07:40] <gnomefreak> rsosborn, ifconfig
[07:40] <rsosborn> but it doesn't seem to work
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> andrew,  'dd' can do it - IF you know how to use dd.
[07:41] <foxgamer> Hi all. I'm having a few problems setting up my deskjet 5550 printer. The system is registering that its there as a connected device, but it's not coming up in the printer list. Anyone any ideas what I have missed?
[07:41] <gnomefreak> ipconfig is used with dos
[07:41] <Mea_Culpa> ifconfig should work
[07:41] <gnomefreak> Mea_Culpa, i never had it work :(
[07:41] <Mea_Culpa> else just visit a webpage on google "show my ip "
[07:41] <Distro^Junkie> wow gnomefreak thats alot of files that need updated lol
[07:41] <andrew> Dr_Willis, can I just make a tar of the whole thing?
[07:41] <rsosborn> bash: ipconfig: command not found
[07:41] <Distro^Junkie> 900+ files
[07:41] <JustSteve> ifconfig works for me
[07:41] <rsosborn> this is what I get
[07:41] <UnL0cK> i had a problem during the instalation... i installed grub in the MBR, and didnt worked, so i installed then lilo on the native making it bootable... didnt work either, grub error n 15 :S, so i installed lilo on the mbr and it worked, but i dont have lilo.conf :S:S:S and i need to boot in winxp sometimes...
[07:41] <gnomefreak> lol Distro^Junkie yes it is
[07:41] <Distro^Junkie> oh well
[07:41] <Distro^Junkie> ubuntu is good so far
[07:41] <Mea_Culpa> Might have to sudo ifconfig
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> andrew,  thats another way - but you willneed to use quite a few options with 'tar' to get all the soft links and stuff correctly.
[07:42] <Mea_Culpa> (some commands don't work as a user in my case)
[07:42] <Distro^Junkie> only going to take 30 minutes
[07:42] <rsosborn> same thing
[07:42] <gnomefreak> Distro^Junkie, thats one reason why i say burn other ones would be because if something breaks you have disk to use as rescue or reinstall
[07:42] <rsosborn> hmm very strange
[07:43] <matw> my FreeNX server shuts down, X Error:  BadWindow, after it authenticates with Win NX client. Ideas?
[07:43] <shutdownrunner> Mea_Culpa try /sbin/ifconfig
[07:43] <Distro^Junkie> gnomefreak that's what I'll do and just use one of my dvd's
[07:43] <pradeep> hi
[07:43] <gnomefreak> sorry Mea_Culpa  i read that wrong i thought you said ipconfig should work.
[07:43] <Distro^Junkie> thanx for the help
[07:43] <Mea_Culpa> shutdownrunner, Wasn't my question. I use DHCP so I never have any problems at all.
[07:43] <gnomefreak> yw Distro^Junkie
[07:43] <Mea_Culpa> love dhcp ;)
[07:43] <Revellion> it's useful sometimes
[07:43] <DomiNcAnO_Ubuntu> #ubuntu-es
[07:43] <shutdownrunner> Mea_Culpa:sorry. I got lost about who asked the question about ifconfig;-)
[07:44] <Revellion> especially for PXE booting :)
[07:44] <UnL0cK> anyone know how to solve my problem?
[07:44] <rsosborn> Okay this basically leads to another question of mine, I just install apache and it was working
[07:44] <rsosborn> I rebooted and know it doesn't resovle
[07:44] <rsosborn> will apache start auto
[07:44] <rsosborn> or to I have to trigger it someone
[07:44] <rsosborn> somehow
[07:44] <holycow> wow google appears a lot on the bounty page.  is that them resolving the bounty item or sponsoring it?
[07:45] <matw> rsosborn, apache should start by itself
[07:45] <Revellion> i think the Google summer-of-code sponsored a lot of the work :|
[07:45] <rsosborn> that is what I figured
[07:45] <bettong_BOFH> this is really odd
[07:45] <rsosborn> I wonder why it is now not resolving and was before
[07:45] <holycow> Revellion, ohhhh, neato
[07:45] <bettong_BOFH> anyone know what is going on with my wireless has it's driveing me nuts
[07:45] <gnomefreak> !tell gnomefreak about repositories
[07:45] <bettong_BOFH> i'm useing eth0 with no problem now
[07:45] <cronik> hey ,i don"T know how i can install a mp3 player that works
[07:45] <Revellion> BOFH >_>
[07:46] <matw> rsosborn, what URL did you use
[07:46] <cronik> can anypne tell me
[07:46] <bettong_BOFH> and i don't want to redo my box
[07:46] <UnL0cK> bettong_BOFH,  i have the same problem, my eth0 works but my wlan0 dont :(
[07:46] <andi5> andrew: take a look at partimage
[07:46] <bettong_BOFH> UnL0cK, well i had mine running for 6 days with no problem woke up this morning and it was dead
[07:47] <bettong_BOFH> it won't go now
[07:47] <Mea_Culpa> If only my damn sound would work for once without distortion :(
[07:47] <cronik> anyone knows how to setup ubuntu to play mp3?
[07:47] <bettong_BOFH> for 6 days i don't get what the hell happend
[07:47] <matw> anyone know where I can go for FreeNX help?
[07:47] <bettong_BOFH> and it really ticks me off
[07:47] <Mea_Culpa> Gstreamer cronik
[07:47] <Mea_Culpa> download that
[07:47] <Mea_Culpa> from Synaptic package manager
[07:47] <cronik> where can i get that?
[07:47] <bettong_BOFH> does anyone know where the internet config files in ubuntu are
[07:47] <andi5> cronik: if you know winamp, you will like xmms, i guess
[07:47] <bettong_BOFH> that way i can check those and maybe the error logs as well
[07:47] <Mea_Culpa> andi5, he needs the mp3 plugins
[07:47] <Revellion> http://theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh \o/
[07:48] <bettong_BOFH> as i can't get the freakin thing to work
[07:48] <Mea_Culpa> He must fire up Synaptic Package Manager
[07:48] <Mea_Culpa> and download GSstream
[07:48] <Mea_Culpa> er
[07:48] <UnL0cK> another problem is that "i dont have the permissions" to enter my hd!!!!!!!!!
[07:48] <UnL0cK> :S:S:S
[07:48] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: whaa, xmms without mp3 support... funny
[07:48] <foxgamer> problems setting up deskjet 5550 printer. system is registering that its there as connected device, but not coming up in the printer list.
[07:48] <Mea_Culpa> andi5, but on Ubuntu it's true...
[07:49] <Mea_Culpa> Because Ubuntu does not delived any non-free products in it's basic install..
[07:49] <Mea_Culpa> d=r
[07:49] <bettong_BOFH> so anyone know where the error logs are and where the settings for wlan0 are
[07:49] <dooglus> bettong_BOFH: /etc/network/interfaces ?
[07:49] <jstrubberg> burner, did you get apache started?
[07:49] <Revellion> andi5: apt-get install beep-media-player ;P
[07:49] <cronik> the problem is that ubutu dosen"t support mp3s
[07:49] <Revellion> andi5: BMP >>>>>> XMMS
[07:49] <dooglus> bettong_BOFH: logs are in /var/log
[07:49] <bettong_BOFH> odd it just fired up again but theres nothing going on
[07:49] <bettong_BOFH> thanx
[07:49] <bettong_BOFH> brb
[07:49] <Mea_Culpa> cronik , Then listen....FIre up Synaptic Package Manager and download GStreamer!!
[07:49] <rsosborn> Okay I found out what was up
[07:49] <andi5> Revellion: will check that out then ;) btw, i do not think c++ allows this operator, does it? ;)
[07:49] <Mea_Culpa> not gonna repeat it..
[07:49] <rsosborn> seems as if sbc changed my ip
[07:49] <cronik> ok
[07:50] <rsosborn> I'm using dynamic dns
[07:50] <Revellion> andi5: not really :)
[07:50] <rsosborn> just for testing
[07:50] <Revellion> andi5: but then i don't talk in C++ generally ;P
[07:50] <rsosborn> noob to linux and apache
[07:50] <andi5> Revellion: >> is quite informal then ;)
[07:50] <Mea_Culpa> it's somewhere in your main menu....look on setting / administration and then synaptic or something like that (not on ubuntu here)
[07:50] <Revellion> :)
[07:50] <matw> who was asking where internet config files are in Ubuntu?
[07:50] <Revellion> andi5: exageration does'nt hurt :)
[07:51] <rsosborn> I wass
[07:51] <rsosborn> I can't get ipconfig to work
[07:51] <rsosborn> Matw: can you help me out
[07:51] <andi5> rsosborn: try ifconfig then
[07:51] <bigcx2> rsosborn: it's ifconfig in linux
[07:51] <matw> rsosborn, look in /etc/network . the filename is interfaces
[07:51] <rsosborn> andi5: I try that several times doesn't work
[07:51] <andi5> rsosborn: as root?
[07:51] <rsosborn> matw: let me try,and thank you
[07:51] <gnomefreak> rsosborn, ipconfig is DOS ifconfig is Unix
[07:51] <rsosborn> adni: ya I'm in root
[07:52] <warreng> i know ubuntu is based on debian.... i have a web/database server running redhat and i'm not happy with it at all..... if i switched it to debian, how similar (in terms of package management) would debian be to ubuntu? like are there things i could put in the cron to make it automatically install critical security updates and what not?
[07:52] <gnomefreak> rsosborn, you dont need root to run ifconfig
[07:52] <andi5> rsosborn: what does it say? it simply does not list your device or is there some "command not found"?
[07:52] <UnL0cK> i had a problem during the instalation... i installed grub in the MBR, and didnt worked, so i installed then lilo on the native making it bootable... didnt work either, grub error n 15 :S, so i installed lilo on the mbr and it worked, but i dont have lilo.conf :S:S:S and i need to boot in winxp sometimes...
[07:52] <andi5> gnomefreak: correct, but if it is in /sbin most users will not have it in their path, right?
[07:53] <gnomefreak> andi5 right
[07:53] <rsosborn> right command not found
[07:53] <andi5> rsosborn: what about /sbin/ifconfig?
[07:53] <rsosborn> let me try
[07:53] <matw> rsosborn: try the command # whereis ifconfig
[07:54] <rsosborn> the /sbin/ifconfig
[07:54] <rsosborn> works
[07:54] <holycow> http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/certification/  <-- appearently ubuntu certification is possible on a few levels
[07:54] <holycow> neat
[07:54] <rsosborn>  andi5: Thank You
[07:54] <cronik> ok im d/l  it,after taht im going to be able to play mp3?
[07:54] <cronik> that
[07:54] <matw> anyone know where I can go for FreeNX help?
[07:54] <B_166-ER-X> i cant unmount my dvd drive :\
[07:54] <andi5> rsosborn: try "echo $PATH" ... there should be /sbin in it (at least imho)
[07:54] <rsosborn> oh I know what I'm doing wrong
[07:54] <rsosborn> I'm a jack
[07:54] <gnomefreak> !tell cronik about mp3
[07:54] <Mea_Culpa> cronik, yes
[07:54] <rsosborn> it is "IF" not "IP"
[07:54] <rsosborn> got it
[07:54] <hawking> does anyone use openoffice writer here?
[07:54] <[bw] 808y> easy queation: how can i proof what i have running xfree or xorg?
[07:55] <cronik> guys,do u get pay 4 helping people
[07:55] <rsosborn> I should read a little better
[07:55] <tris622ph> what is bonobo?
[07:55] <rsosborn> my bad fellas
[07:55] <gnomefreak> cronik, dont we wish
[07:55] <Mea_Culpa> xorg.conf ;) else it's called something else
[07:55] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:55] <Mea_Culpa> look in /etc/X11
[07:55] <rikva> Hi, Ubuntu loads all kind of modules at startup that I don't want it to. Can I disable some modules from starting up at booting, and how?
[07:55] <Mea_Culpa> if you find xorg.conf you know what you are running
[07:55] <[bw] 808y> well i have both xfreeconf and xorgconf
[07:55] <cronik> lol
[07:55] <andi5> rsosborn: you are not configurating the "internet protocol" but rather "(network) InterFaces" :)
[07:55] <Mea_Culpa> hehe
[07:55] <rsosborn> can you guys ping this http://theozfactor.homelinux.com/index.html
[07:55] <cronik> damn
[07:55] <michael__> anyone knows where I can find an overview of what everything in init.d does? thanks!
[07:55] <warreng> how long before there'll be a mysql 5.0 client/server package in synaptic?
[07:55] <cronik> i wish i could know that much about linux
[07:55] <gnomefreak> cronik, read the pm you got from ubotu it tells you about mp3's
[07:56] <cronik> yea
[07:56] <cronik>  i did that b4 and i get errors
[07:56] <rsosborn> Trying to test my apache web server
[07:56] <rikva> rsosborn: can you ping html files?
[07:56] <rsosborn> http://theozfactor.homelinux.com/
[07:56] <rsosborn> can you get there
[07:56] <Kilte1> I have cupsys and not cups in my /etc/init.d/   does it matter?
[07:56] <cronik> im d/l  GStreamer
[07:56] <[bw] 808y> because i update from warty 2 breezy and now i would like 2 know what i have runnin?
[07:56] <rsosborn> mean can you view it from your browser
[07:56] <alekz> can someone tell me the dafault xchat ports for DCC connections ?
[07:56] <gnomefreak> cronik,  you screw enough things up you become able to help people
[07:56] <rikva> rsosborn: yes i can
[07:56] <rsosborn> cool deal
[07:56] <patrick_> gota love kids that turn power of on power bars
[07:57] <cronik> lol
[07:57] <rsosborn> rikva: thanks for checking it
[07:57] <patrick_> off on*
[07:57] <rsosborn> Just making sure it was working
[07:57] <rikva> np
[07:57] <rikva> black with blue
[07:57] <cronik> so you all use ubuntu?
[07:57] <andi5> rikva: thank you for registering ;)
[07:57] <rsosborn> right
[07:57] <Otis> evening all
[07:57] <dooglus> warreng: as far as I know, debian and ubuntu are identical when it comes to package management.
[07:57] <rikva> andi5: ?
[07:57] <gnomefreak> cronik, yes i use other distros as well but ubuntu is main distro for me
[07:57] <warreng> i thought ubuntu packages were separate from debian packages?
[07:58] <cronik> dose anyone knows how to install hydra by the way
[07:58] <Rich43> !seen lethal
[07:58] <dooglus> warreng: they are.  but the commands to work with the packages are the same.
[07:58] <ubotu> lethal <i=foobar@host86-133-33-144.range86-133.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 21d 8h 42m 13s ago, saying: 'I don't know, but I'd like to'.
[07:58] <cronik> cool
[07:58] <gnomefreak> warreng: some are same some are not
[07:58] <warreng> but more or less debian packages == ubuntu packages?
[07:58] <cronik> u don"t use windows?
[07:58] <andi5> rikva: you never know what the site you are "pinging" wants from you before you visit it.. just ignore me :)
[07:58] <gnomefreak> cronik, no not anymore
[07:58] <cronik> me 2
[07:58] <[bw] 808y> i have a big prob after upgrading from warty 2 breezy : i cant get 2 console like ctrl-alt-f1 !!! that big prob and i cannt type the "at"
[07:58] <dooglus> gnomefreak: all official ubuntu packages are custom built for ubuntu.  none of the packages in the official repos were built for debian
[07:59] <cronik> i wanted to  do this 4 a long
[07:59] <Otis> I've got some no-name ISA network card that won't be recognised ... dmesg isn't too helpful, lspci isn't giving me any info ...
[07:59] <rikva> andi5: you are right, but i'm not really afraid of websites, they can't harm much imho
[07:59] <cronik> now im a happy linux user
[07:59] <rsosborn> t
[07:59] <gnomefreak> dooglus: this is true and i knew that
[07:59] <Otis> I guess I'm going to have to explicitly declare IRQ and I/O, right ?
[07:59] <andi5> dooglus: what are the ubuntu packages optimized for, if they are?
[07:59] <Otis> what's the command for delcaring IRQ and I/O address ?
[07:59] <[bw] 808y> i want also 2 be happy linux user but i have a big prob after upgrading from warty 2 breezy : i cant get 2 console like ctrl-alt-f1 !!! that big prob
[07:59] <dooglus> warreng: the format of the packages is the same on debian and ubuntu.  but debian packages are built on debian boxes and ubuntu packages are built on ubuntu boxes.  there's no guarantee that a debian package will work on ubuntu and vice-versa.
[07:59] <rikva> Can I stop some modules from loading at bootup? They are not in /etc/modules.
[08:00] <gnomefreak> some packages were built for ubuntu others were built for both
[08:00] <taiho> How do I grep to get the sync from monitor?
[08:00] <Mea_Culpa> Does Ubuntu have more packages then Debian?
[08:00] <cronik> any one got hydra install in there system?
[08:00] <LokeDK> how to switch gdm theme? can't do that anymore
[08:00] <gnomefreak> Mea_Culpa, ive heard yes but im not real sure about htat
[08:00] <dooglus> Mea_Culpa: there are a lot more architectures supported for debian, so there are a lot more package files available for debian
[08:00] <[bw] 808y> i have a big prob after upgrading from warty 2 breezy : i cant get 2 console like ctrl-alt-f1 !!!
[08:01] <Mea_Culpa> gnomefreak, That's why I ask. Because Ubuntu people say they have more but Debian people say they have more....
[08:01] <warreng> dooglus: know if there's a debian equivalent to the package-auto-update-thing that comes with ubuntu?
[08:01] <warreng> where it updates critical system packages?
[08:01] <dooglus> Mea_Culpa: as for different packages though, I'm not sure.  I guess ubuntu's "universe" contains all the debian packages, so ubuntu has more different packages than debian
[08:01] <gnomefreak> Mea_Culpa, if im not mistaken you can use ubuntu sources in most if not all debian based distros
[08:01] <dooglus> warreng: what package does the package-auto-update-thing come in in debian
[08:02] <miikka> Have any1 got ideas why my hp Laserjet 1022 takes so long to start printing (about 5min)??
[08:02] <Mea_Culpa> I use PPC......and I'm not about using Debian or using Ubuntu. I like the Ubuntu user base though....nice people
[08:02] <warreng> dunno... it comes installed in gnome... when i first booted gnome up it said, "these packages should be upgraded"
[08:02] <dooglus> warreng: a simple "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" will install just critical updates and security fixes
[08:02] <andi5> [bw] 808y: maybe xkeycaps helps you? (just a question)
[08:02] <[bw] 808y> what does ist?
[08:02] <warreng> and that won't upgrade mysql for instance?
[08:02] <dooglus> warreng: you won't get version updates to packages unless you upgrade to a new release of ubuntu.
[08:03] <kandoora_> has anyone heard of ryce
[08:03] <gnomefreak> [bw] 808y, im wondering if you keyboard isnt configured right?
[08:03] <taiho> Question: using grep command to get horizontal sync from monitor
[08:03] <kandoora_> *bryce
[08:03] <dooglus> warreng: so when someone asked earlier "when will breezy get MySQL 5" for example - it won't...  breezy has the version it's got, and will keep that version.
[08:03] <Mea_Culpa> look in xorg.conf taiho
[08:03] <Mea_Culpa> ?
[08:03] <[bw] 808y> how can i get it right configuerd?
[08:03] <dooglus> kandoora_: you want rice?  check #gentoo
[08:03] <andi5> [bw] 808y: it lets you choose your keyboard layout and creates a .xmodmap file for you. then simply "xmodmap ~/.xmodmap" and be happy ;)
[08:03] <warreng> dooglus: ahh
[08:04] <taiho> Mea_Culpa, no horizontal there. Otherwise I would be in 1280x1024 now instead of 640x480
[08:04] <kandoora_> dooglus, not rice, bryce
[08:04] <warreng> only reason i ask is because i have a redhat server running a website... and  last night around 5am... redhat's up2date decided to uninstall mysql
[08:04] <Mea_Culpa> oh ok
[08:04] <warreng> that uhm.... made me reconsider redhat :)
[08:04] <[bw] 808y> i will test it
[08:04] <Mea_Culpa> lol @ RH
[08:04] <Mea_Culpa> I hate RH. Way to commercial
[08:04] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: what about fedora?
[08:04] <kandoora_> bryce is a landscape software, is there something like that in linux
[08:04] <Mea_Culpa> andi5, Haven't tried that one yet.
[08:05] <Mea_Culpa> Mandriva also sounds ok.
[08:05] <cronik> well
[08:05] <Mea_Culpa> But I think I'll go with Debian or Ubuntu.
[08:05] <gnomefreak> warreng: ubuntu has everything redhat has and more and if you ask me ubuntu is easier and more user freindly than any redhat distro
[08:05] <cronik> i try rh
[08:05] <kandoora_> i know it can be done in blender, but is there anything like terragen or bryce
[08:05] <Mea_Culpa> Right now I'm on Gentoo but the compile times give me a headachte on my Imac 400mhz....
[08:05] <[bw] 808y> where can i find xkeycabs?
[08:05] <warreng> well i'm talking for a server... ubuntu seems more of a desktop distro... and debian i imagine would be better on a purely remotely accessible server
[08:06] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: i will give ubuntu a chance, if it fails it will be put at the end of the queue again and debian pops up :)
[08:06] <Otis> I have the IRQ and I/O address of my network card, where do I configure these so that the card will be found at boot ?
[08:06] <gnomefreak> warreng, alot of ppl use ubuntu as a server
[08:06] <warreng> really?
[08:06] <Mea_Culpa> andi5, Same here.
[08:06] <gnomefreak> and ive heard works well
[08:06] <cronik> how can i install stuff from the shell
[08:06] <Mea_Culpa> If Ubuntu gives me sound without distortion I'll stick with it.
[08:06] <gnomefreak> warreng, you can choose a server install on ubuntu
[08:06] <warreng> can you install ubuntu without X/gnome/gimp/openoffice/etc ?
[08:06] <Mea_Culpa> Have a major sound problem on every distro....
[08:06] <cronik> is there a coman like in fedora
[08:06] <warreng> realllllly? how
[08:06] <cronik> like yum
[08:06] <hatch2600> uhh...
[08:07] <Mea_Culpa> warreng, you can remove them later...
[08:07] <gnomefreak> cronik, sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[08:07] <cronik> o
[08:07] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: why should this distro be better in device support? running any sound server?
[08:07] <cronik> i try that b4
[08:07] <cronik> and i get errors
[08:07] <warreng> Mea_Culpa: there's tons of dependency packages i'm sure i'd miss... i'd rather just not install any X related stuff to begin with :)
[08:07] <gnomefreak> cronik, what errors?
[08:07] <Mea_Culpa> andi5, No but something goes wrong and I'm really trying everything.
[08:07] <cronik> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:07] <cronik> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[08:07] <cronik> that one
[08:07] <gnomefreak> cronik, you need to close anything else using apt
[08:08] <zkl-laptop> warreng, isn't there a server install?
[08:08] <dooglus> warreng: ubuntu comes with a gnome program which pops up a little "thought bubble" telling you when you need to update.
[08:08] <dooglus> warreng: but if you want to do it automatically from a crontab, you can
[08:08] <Beagleburt_> G'day from New Zealand all...
[08:08] <Mea_Culpa> cronik, stop Synaptic Package Manager first
[08:08] <gnomefreak> if synaptic is open it will cause apt-get not to work
[08:08] <cronik> ooo
[08:08] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: can you describe your problem?
[08:08] <Mea_Culpa> Anyway here who knows about an Imac distortion problem from the line-out? It's not ALSA or OSS specific. It's on every damn linux system I try except for an old yellowdog version that I forgot.
[08:08] <Mea_Culpa> that's the problem
[08:08] <Mea_Culpa> My build-in speakers work fine.
[08:08] <Mea_Culpa> but line-out gives distortion
[08:08] <Mea_Culpa> badly
[08:09] <cronik> imma try later cuz im d/l the thing for the mp3 stuff
[08:09] <cronik> how old are guys
[08:09] <RQ> hello
[08:09] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: maybe it is a hardware problem?
[08:09] <Mea_Culpa> And it has nothing to do with mixer settings I can find in ALSAmixer of Gnome-alsamixer or anything else.
[08:09] <Mea_Culpa> andi5, But it works on OS9 and OSX
[08:09] <[bw] 808y> hey guys where i can find xkeycabs? ist not in the uniserve repopsi
[08:09] <Mea_Culpa> So it's something that goes wrong under LInux.
[08:09] <Beagleburt_> I am a noob at bot Linux (Ubuntu ) & IRC....help!
[08:09] <UnL0cK> i cant uninstall lilo because i run lilo -u and -U and it doesnt WORKS!!
[08:09] <UnL0cK> HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
[08:09] <andi5> [bw] 808y: try xkeycaps then ;)
[08:10] <Mea_Culpa> (my last resort will be to buy a USB-soundcard but I don't have money yet)
[08:10] <[bw] 808y> i tryed but i cant find it
[08:10] <andi5> [bw] 808y: xkeycaps != xkeycabs
[08:10] <gnomefreak> Mea_Culpa, i have no sound issues but im not using a mac either :(
[08:10] <gnomefreak> sometimes i wish i was
[08:11] <Mea_Culpa> gnomefreak, My x86 PC also had perfect sound on the live cd.
[08:11] <Beagleburt_> I can not get my printer to print faster than about 1 line per 5 min...?
[08:11] <Mea_Culpa> BUt this problem is Imac specific :S
[08:11] <[bw] 808y> omg *big thx* it was 2 obiosly
[08:11] <RQ> i have a problem with sound too. ICH6 on a new laptop doesn't give me any sounds
[08:11] <Beagleburt_> anyone able to help?
[08:11] <Mea_Culpa> on the DV edition as far as I know.
[08:11] <gnomefreak> Mea_Culpa, it could be the drivers for your sound card
[08:11] <Mea_Culpa> gnomefreak, yeah but I can't change that
[08:11] <Mea_Culpa> I have no coding skills
[08:12] <Mea_Culpa> and ALSA and OSS documentation is bad....
[08:12] <Mea_Culpa> And I can't force a soundcard or something like that....
[08:12] <gnomefreak> Mea_Culpa,  there used to be a site im sure its still out there for drivers for ubuntu/linux to see if they are usable but i cant think of site
[08:13] <andi5> Beagleburt_: hm, printing is non-trivial, but you might start your investigation at www.linuxprinting.org and then go to /etc/cups. i cannot tell you the ubuntu specifics :(
[08:13] <Mea_Culpa> gnomefreak, It's not Ubuntu specific (i'm on gentoo now and have the same problem)
[08:13] <gnomefreak> Mea_Culpa,  i try not to force anything if i have a choise
[08:13] <Mea_Culpa> And I very much hate switching distro's just to get rid of this problem.
[08:13] <Beagleburt_> ok TKU andi5
[08:13] <pal> hi i need the man pages for gcc, where can i find them?
[08:13] <Mea_Culpa> Google also didn't work
[08:13] <LoRe> in which repository can i find w32codecs?
[08:13] <cronik> gentoo
[08:13] <gnomefreak> Mea_Culpa,  i know the feeling i did the same thing with grub
[08:13] <Mea_Culpa> :(
[08:14] <cronik> i always wnated to install that distro
[08:14] <gnomefreak> LoRe, its not there
[08:14] <cronik> but it was to hard 4 me to do it
[08:14] <LoRe> why is it suggested then? :)
[08:14] <Mea_Culpa> cronik, I don't recommend it if you don't like waiting.
[08:14] <darkheart> !tell LoRe about w32codecs
[08:14] <Virtuall> hi people, what is the most common reason for that "Starting hotplug system" bug?
[08:14] <cronik> lol
[08:14] <Mea_Culpa> Gentoo is a good distro but you really need basic linux skills for it and need to be patient.
[08:14] <pal> i tried to find the gcc man pages in synaptic package but couldnt find.
[08:14] <gnomefreak> ty darkheart  i was tryin to type that :)
[08:14] <cronik> do u have to wait alot for it to load
[08:14] <Mea_Culpa> Becayse you will get problems on gentoo for sure....hehehe
[08:14] <darkheart> =)
[08:14] <cronik> lol
[08:14] <Mea_Culpa> No , but emerging things just takes ages...
[08:15] <Kilter> I'm getting this when I view my printer through cups... it's definitely plugged in etc...
[08:15] <Kilter>    "Printer not connected; will retry in 30 seconds..."
[08:15] <Kilter>    Device URI: usb:/dev/usb/lp0
[08:15] <Kilter> how do I test that it's there?
[08:15] <LoRe> darkheart: thank you :)
[08:15] <andi5> pal: debian has it in the gcc package... no gcc.1.gz in /usr/share/man/man1?
[08:15] <darkheart> np
[08:15] <gnomefreak> pal: open terminal type man gcc
[08:15] <Mea_Culpa> on this 400mhz that is....but even on a fast PC compiling something like OO or KDE/Gnome takes ages.
[08:16] <Mea_Culpa> Where are the ALSA config files by the way?
[08:16] <Mea_Culpa> couldn't find the
[08:16] <Mea_Culpa> n
[08:16] <Mea_Culpa> Maybe I will see something if I look at then
[08:16] <gnomefreak> anyone know if korn terminal can be found for ubuntu?
[08:16] <Mea_Culpa> try a debian package maybe?
[08:16] <Mea_Culpa> (sorry if this is not possible I dunno)
[08:17] <Mea_Culpa> SHould work with most packages I suppose
[08:17] <Virtuall> hi people, what is the most common reason for that "Starting hotplug system" bug?
[08:17] <hotzenplotz> what kind of x-server comes with ubuntu ?? xfree or xorg or something else ?
[08:17] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: what's the kron terminal
[08:17] <cons321> HiddenFly, I've installed tv card "WinFast tv2000 xp" which was found by the system automaticaly, but there is no sound neither when TV is on, nor when Radio is on. Can someone please tell me how to fix this?
[08:17] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: what's the korn terminal..i meant
[08:17] <cons321> I've heard that this card works well on Linux.
[08:17] <Mea_Culpa> hotzenplotz, Xorg
[08:17] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: wild guess: /etc/modprobe.d?
[08:17] <hotzenplotz> Mea_Culpa kk
[08:18] <cronik> so yall guys help people 4 fun?
[08:18] <Mea_Culpa> hehe yup
[08:18] <Mea_Culpa> Because they also help me ;-)
[08:18] <gnomefreak> DShepherd,  its a terminal that is highly customizable i know mac uses it as default terminal but i hear other linux distros have it i dont remember what ones
[08:18] <cronik> damn
[08:18] <gnomefreak> its called ksh i think
[08:18] <darkheart> I help people for angst. Can't get enough of it.
[08:18] <cronik> imma come here evryday
[08:18] <Mea_Culpa> OSX uses it gnomefreak ?
[08:18] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: pl
[08:18] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: ok
[08:18] <cronik> imma learn
[08:19] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: it may seem so, but most of us do it because we are so proud of our knowledge and want to show our proficiency ;)
[08:19] <gnomefreak> Mea_Culpa, not sure  again these are things im hearing
[08:19] <darkheart> gnomefreak I dunno if ubuntu has a package, but I'm sure you can find something somewhere.
[08:19] <Mea_Culpa> lol andi5
[08:19] <Mea_Culpa> OSX Is cool though
[08:19] <cronik> nice
[08:19] <Mea_Culpa> I would use it if my computer would be fast enough
[08:19] <gnomefreak> ty darkheart
[08:19] <Mea_Culpa> Portage has been ported to OSX :) So that's pretty cool
[08:19] <cronik> i think there is alot to learn from u guys
[08:20] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: try packages.ubuntu.com
[08:20] <Mea_Culpa> I could do anything on OSX that I like on linux (don't do anything special)
[08:20] <cristian23___> does anyone know if there is a known bug when trying to do an xdmcp with a client with an 8 bit depth?
[08:20] <darkheart> gnomefreak i.e. build from source or possibly use a .deb package...or an rpm that's been alien-ed
[08:20] <mannyman> I've got an HP scanner (scanjet 2400) that xsane won't work with it seems. Any ideas/substitute programs?
[08:20] <Revellion> mannyman: USB or LPT or?
[08:20] <Mea_Culpa> By the way...I foudn the alsa config file....
[08:20] <mannyman> USB
[08:21] <mips> Help with mouse:  I need to make my mouse cover a greater area with less movement and I dont like to much acceleration. Any ideas ???
[08:21] <andi5> mannyman: did you check sane-project.org?
[08:21] <Mea_Culpa> mips....get a better mouse
[08:21] <cristian23___> i think i discovered a bug
[08:21] <dooglus> mips: increase the sensitivity
[08:21] <mannyman> yes, they say it is officially unsupported
[08:22] <Mea_Culpa> dooglus, Some mouses simply aren't precise enough for more sensitifity
[08:22] <gnomefreak> Mea_Culpa, im sorry it was zsh that is installed on osx
[08:22] <mips> Mea_Culpa:  I have a very good mouse, Logitech MX310
[08:22] <Mea_Culpa> ;)
[08:22] <andi5> mips: good question, tell me your solution when you have it :)
[08:22] <mannyman> but some build which I don't know how to get may have support
[08:22] <Mea_Culpa> mips, that's a good one indeeed
[08:22] <dooglus> mips: system->preferences->mouse->motion->speed->sensitivity
[08:22] <Mea_Culpa> just increase the sensitivty then
[08:22] <mannyman> I'm a newbie
[08:22] <Mea_Culpa> I have an MX510 on my windows pc
[08:22] <Mea_Culpa> good mouse :)
[08:22] <Revellion> what a waste
[08:22] <cristian23___> i installed a fresh ubutnu on an amd64, enabled xdmcp, and querying from any machine with 8bit depth display makes sigfault gdmlogin
[08:22] <mips> dooglus: Everything is set to max
[08:22] <Revellion> works fine
[08:22] <cronik> hey guys,just finish d/l the gstreamer yall tould me to,how can i play mp3 now
[08:22] <pal> gnomefreak: i think u misunderstod me i ment the manual page for gcc (c) library functions like fgets gets, etc.
[08:23] <Mea_Culpa> hehe
[08:23] <Revellion> with logitech_applet to set the dpi to 800
[08:23] <dooglus> mips: this one goes to 11
[08:23] <Mea_Culpa> just play then cronik
[08:23] <cronik> in any program
[08:23] <cronik> ?
[08:23] <Mea_Culpa> Revellion, that mouse rules ha? ;-)
[08:23] <mips> dooglus: ll ?  sorry
[08:23] <Mea_Culpa> cronik most likely yes
[08:23] <Mea_Culpa> if they use the gstreamer
[08:23] <iceman> where do you download the video codex files to play videos
[08:23] <Mea_Culpa> rythmbox does
[08:23] <foxgamer> I am trying to set up my printer. The computer recognises that it's there but I cannot print to it.
[08:23] <DShepherd> gnomefreak:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/shells/pdksh -- try that
[08:23] <foxgamer> Any ideas?
[08:23] <gnomefreak> pal i dont know if they have that. im working on learning C
[08:23] <Mea_Culpa> xine uses a different one
[08:23] <andi5> gst-play?
[08:24] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: no promises thoough
[08:24] <mips> Mea_Culpa:  It works great on Windoze though, not so great on Ubuntu
[08:24] <gnomefreak> ty DShepherd i also found the website for it
[08:24] <Revellion> Mea_Culpa: indeed it does
[08:24] <Revellion> Mea_Culpa: accurate stuff
[08:24] <Mea_Culpa> yup
[08:24] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: what's the link to the website?
[08:24] <siezer> i have a question about evolution on breezy.... ldd says its compiled against both krb4 and krb5, but im only getting kerb4 as an authentication option under account preferences.... any idea?
[08:24] <mannyman> no other scanning program for linux but sane?
[08:24] <iceman> how do you get the Video codex files ..
[08:24] <patrick_> 3 minutes left to the breezy download
[08:24] <Mea_Culpa> good for gaming on my windows pc....sad that it's so old and even counter strike doesn't work very well...
[08:24] <andi5> mannyman: sane is best imho
[08:24] <Revellion> mips: you got a MX310 right?
[08:24] <gnomefreak> www.kornshell.com
[08:24] <Revellion> mips: using logitech_applet at all?
[08:25] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: ty
[08:25] <pal> gnomefreak, they should be there, man fgets should show me how to use fgets function
[08:25] <Kilter> Revellion: what does this mean and can you point me at where I can research fixing it.. the device is connected to a usb slot
[08:25] <Kilter> "Printer not connected; will retry in 30 seconds..."
[08:25] <Kilter>    Device URI: usb:/dev/usb/lp0
[08:25] <cronik> thanks
[08:25] <mips> Revellion: Please enlighten me...
[08:25] <cronik> got it working now
[08:25] <Distro^Junkie> lol didn't realize my nick changed
[08:25] <cronik> guys i"ll see yall later
[08:25] <cronik> gotta go to work
[08:25] <Mea_Culpa> Why does ALSA-config list all sorts of OSS stuff?
[08:25] <Revellion> mips: with logitech applet you can run the MX310 at it's real resolution of 800dpi
[08:26] <Revellion> mips: wait and i'll link you
[08:26] <mannyman> iceman: install VLC and you will not need ANY codecs
[08:26] <mips> Revellion: Sounds good, where can I find this gem ?
[08:26] <Kilter> I don't even have /dev/usb/lp0 on the system
[08:26] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: i do not know a lot, but there is some oss compatibility stuff (like /dev/dsp and so on)
[08:26] <cronik> later
[08:26] <Mea_Culpa> andi5, yeah I do know that. The config just looks very small,.....
[08:26] <gnomefreak> DShepherd, apt-get works i think i just did it looked like it worked
[08:27] <Mea_Culpa> nothing about type of soundcard or anything like that
[08:27] <DShepherd> k
[08:27] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: well if it is in the packages, it should work
[08:27] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: you know that the alsaproject lists the best way to get your card working (at least it should do it ;))
[08:27] <Distro^Junkie> whats a good app for burning iso images ? on dvd
[08:27] <kandoora_> if there is any newbie like me, this will benefit you, it might even make some sense to pros  http://www.linux.ie/newusers/alternatives.php
[08:27] <Mea_Culpa> My card works....but line-out has distortion. Build in speakers do not
[08:27] <Revellion> mips: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=47 <= seems like a more modern version than what i use but should work too
[08:28] <Mea_Culpa> andi5,  But I know nothing about the alsaproject tips about this problem of mine.
[08:28] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: i just meant, maybe this site tells you some additional stuff
[08:28] <DShepherd> Distro^Junkie: k3b works well
[08:28] <mips> Revellion: Thanks a mil, will check it out now.
[08:28] <Mea_Culpa> already looked theer
[08:28] <Mea_Culpa> nothing
[08:28] <dooglus> mips: try setting the sensitivity to more than 10 - does that help?
[08:28] <Distro^Junkie> thanx DShepherd
[08:28] <Mea_Culpa> and it's not alsa specific either :S
[08:28] <DShepherd> Distro^Junkie: you can jist right-click the ISo and select burn
[08:28] <DShepherd> Distro^Junkie: that's what I do
[08:28] <Revellion> mips: default is just measly 400dpi and that sucks ;P
[08:28] <Revellion> 800dpi \o/
[08:29] <Revellion> mips: also the instructions are there and easy to understand :)
[08:29] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: maybe it is your application? (even wilder guess)
[08:29] <mips> dooglus: Sensitivity is at maximum, i'm gonna check out the link Revellion just posted
[08:29] <Mea_Culpa> andi5, No .every distro and every application
[08:29] <Mea_Culpa> major problem
[08:29] <cristian23___> can anyone make a test to see if i found a bug please?
[08:29] <MonXX> hey I just installed Ubuntu on my mini PC, it's great! I want to use it without a monitor, just connect to the network and use tightvnc to work on it. but that way the resolution is stuck to 640x480 and I can't change it
[08:29] <mips> Revellion: Thx, will check it out !
[08:30] <Mea_Culpa> Nobody can help me with it also...big problem
[08:30] <crimsun> Mea_Culpa: what's the issue?
[08:30] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: yeah, but eigher, your application or some glue stuff... what would be left? irq issues?
[08:30] <idefix1976> hello?
[08:30] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: s,eigher,eigher alsa,
[08:30] <Mea_Culpa> andi5, something in the hardware at a low level I think
[08:30] <Mea_Culpa> Same problem with OSS....they all do something wrong...
[08:30] <Mea_Culpa> very weird
[08:31] <Mea_Culpa> s,eigher,eigher alsa,???????????/
[08:31] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: man sed
[08:31] <Mea_Culpa> ok
[08:31] <Mea_Culpa> man pages are the best thing of linux ;_
[08:31] <Mea_Culpa> you need them :P
[08:31] <andi5> hehe
 key is the best imho
[08:32] <Mea_Culpa> yup yup
[08:32] <MonXX> anybody an idea how to increase the resolution? looked into xorg.conf, but it does have more resolutions in there. just can't choose them in gnome
[08:32] <Bicchi> i have accidentaly erased my .bashrc file in my home folder. is there a way to recreate this file.
[08:32] <andi5> was not there some alt+ctrl+plus and minus stuff to change the setting?
[08:33] <UnL0cK> http://pastebin.com/409184
[08:33] <[bw] 808y> helpppppp, i have problem with xkeymap
[08:33] <andi5> Bicchi: is there some in /etc/skel?
[08:33] <andi5> [bw] 808y: xkeycaps or xmodmap?
[08:33] <Mea_Culpa> andi5, type sed eigher?
[08:33] <Mea_Culpa> and then sed alsa?
[08:34] <cristian23___> any developer in the channel??
[08:34] <[bw] 808y> after cr8ing the keymap it doest work xmodmap
[08:34] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: i just forget to write alsa. nothing more or less :)
[08:34] <Bicchi> andi5: yes, can i just copy that one and put in home folder
[08:34] <targetx> 'cr8ing'.. man chatlanguage these days
[08:34] <Kilter> how about this... who do I login as to modify the default port (which is wrong)... root isn't working and there isn't a CUPS user on the system
[08:34] <Mea_Culpa> andi5, I get it
[08:34] <Mea_Culpa> sed eigher alsa
[08:34] <freemanen>  i have a vibra 16 S creative tech 94 12504-ICQ 9629 soundcard but ubuntu can't find it. what do I have to do?
[08:34] <andi5> Bicchi: i think so
[08:35] <Distro^Junkie> ok be back in a bit going to update to breezy
[08:35] <Mea_Culpa> just opening alsa in /modules.d gives better output though :P
[08:35] <andi5> [bw] 808y: what is wrong with xmodmap? does it find your new .xmodmap file?
[08:35] <crimsun> freemanen: sudo modprobe snd-sb16
[08:35] <[bw] 808y> xmodmap say that there is a problem 2 set the keymap help me plz, i can erase i cant type the "at" and i cant get in to the console
[08:35] <blackvd> I've installed a slave drive and want it to be a single partition for extra space, so I used fdisk, then edited the fstab.problem is when I reboot grub doesnt work
[08:35] <blackvd> so I have to reinstall the entire os to it to fix grub
[08:35] <[bw] 808y> after "xmodmap ~/"cr8et map"
[08:36] <[bw] 808y> i get error
[08:36] <andi5> [bw] 808y: you should stop whining and start explaining your problem as best as you can, so tell us everything xmodmap says :)
[08:36] <Mea_Culpa> andi5, want my alsa file then?
[08:36] <Mea_Culpa> (could paste it on pastebin
[08:36] <Mea_Culpa> but it's no use to me
[08:36] <DShepherd> blackvd: you can, or you just reinstall grup it self
[08:36] <thirso> hwo do i change the background color of aterm or xterm?
[08:36] <Mea_Culpa> goole for it
[08:36] <DShepherd> blackvd: you have a livecd?
[08:36] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: i do not think i can help you, to be honest :)
[08:36] <Mea_Culpa> bet you will find it right away
[08:36] <crimsun> thirso: the man page has some hints
[08:36] <targetx> hey corincole
[08:36] <andi5> lol
[08:36] <corincole> hey targetx
[08:36] <corincole> :)
[08:36] <blackvd> ok so after formating my slave to be a ext3, I just reinstall grub?
[08:37] <Mea_Culpa> andi5, No one can so that's no surprise :P
[08:37] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: so paste it :)
[08:37] <Mea_Culpa> it's a weird problem
[08:37] <Mea_Culpa> lol
[08:37] <DShepherd> blackvd: yup
[08:37] <blackvd> cool thanks
[08:37] <crimsun> Mea_Culpa: you still haven't stated to me what the problem is
[08:37] <DShepherd> blackvd: you know how to do that right?
[08:37] <andi5> [bw] 808y: so what is the error?
[08:37] <[bw] 808y> i want 2 desc
[08:37] <corincole> targetx, u can call me 'corin'
[08:37] <Mea_Culpa> crimsun I did sorry if you missed it
[08:37] <corincole> lol
[08:37] <Mea_Culpa> I'll say it again hold on
[08:37] <[bw] 808y> mom
[08:37] <blackvd> reinstall grub? not really but can try and figure it out
[08:37] <Mea_Culpa> Anyway here who knows about an Imac distortion problem from the line-out? It's not ALSA or OSS specific. It's on every damn linux system I try except for an old yellowdog version that I forgot.
[08:37] <corincole> can i call you "target"?
[08:37] <corincole> :P
[08:38] <Mea_Culpa> build-in speakers work crimsun
[08:38] <[bw] 808y> its hard 2 ex when half of key bord going wrong
[08:38] <DShepherd> blackvd: ok, well if you need help you know where to loo
[08:38] <DShepherd> look*
[08:38] <andi5> blackvd: grub configuration is really easy if you have a working menu.lst file, really :)
[08:38] <blackvd> thanks
[08:38] <crimsun> Mea_Culpa: if it's not ALSA- or OSS-specific, that makes it pretty difficult to fix...
[08:38] <Mea_Culpa> crimsun, No shit sherlock! :P (no offence ment ):P
[08:38] <Mea_Culpa> it's a difficult problem...
[08:38] <targetx> corincole, thats sexy!
[08:38] <freemanen> sudo modprobe snd-sb16
[08:39] <freemanen> Password:
[08:39] <freemanen> FATAL: Error inserting snd_sb16 (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-sb16.ko): No such device
[08:39] <freemanen> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_sb16
[08:39] <Mea_Culpa> noone can help me sadly enough
[08:39] <claudio_> hola
[08:39] <claudio_> sorry
[08:39] <claudio_> hello
[08:39] <boci^> hi
[08:39] <freemanen> what does this mean?
[08:39] <Mea_Culpa> been trying to fix this for quite some time but there is nothing I can do about it
[08:39] <corincole> targetx, duh!
[08:39] <crimsun> Mea_Culpa: that's because it's a HARDWARE problem.
[08:39] <corincole> lol
[08:39] <boci^> I have a little question, I have a G3 (blue), can I boot from USB pendrive?
[08:39] <Mea_Culpa> crimsun, yes but since it works on OSX and OS9......
[08:39] <andi5> freemanen: that sb16 cannot find your soundblaster device (the physical thingie), i guess
[08:39] <DShepherd> andi5: yeah it is, but I think some GUI front end would be nice to have on lviecds , it;s a very common problem
[08:39] <targetx> corin, everything allright ?
[08:39] <enyc> free: hello again
[08:39] <nagual> I have an ubuntu box set up with postfix, and courier-imap, but for some reason cannot send or recieve emails from it.  Anybody wanna point me to something they could look at to figure out why?
[08:39] <corincole> yeah, at the moment lol
[08:39] <corincole> :)
[08:39] <crimsun> Mea_Culpa: so tell us what OS* does differently
[08:39] <andi5> DShepherd: ?
[08:39] <corincole> well, im bored lol
[08:40] <Mea_Culpa> OSX works and OS9/8 both work great.
[08:40] <DShepherd> andi5: grub, reconfiguring it..GUI.....
[08:40] <Mea_Culpa> Good sound quality on those
[08:40] <stefan_> !tell BeGu about sources
[08:40] <Mea_Culpa> but Linux does not
[08:40] <targetx> corincole, try playing some wolfenstein et!
[08:40] <joeb> anybody ever tried to get a creative zen nano plus working with ubuntu?
[08:40] <crimsun> freemanen: paste the output from pnpdump onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:40] <targetx> it's great to kill time
[08:40] <BeGu> !tell BeGu about sources
[08:40] <corincole> targetx, never, playe
[08:40] <Mea_Culpa> only an old yellowdog linux version....not sure witch on though
[08:40] <corincole> d
[08:40] <Mea_Culpa> think 2.0
[08:40] <andi5> DShepherd: o man, sorry ;)
[08:40] <corincole> redo:
[08:40] <claudio_> does anyone know how to make the subtitles bigger in totem?
[08:40] <targetx> corincole, you should really install that!
[08:40] <occy> anyone know how to create a keeper file with debfoster?
[08:40] <corincole> targetx, never played it, tell me how to install
[08:40] <targetx> claudio_, it's an option on preferences lol :)
[08:40] <corincole> :P
[08:40] <crimsun> Mea_Culpa: and what does that use?
[08:40] <andi5> DShepherd: getting too late for me :)
[08:40] <corincole> apt-get install wolfenstein
[08:40] <corincole> ?
[08:40] <targetx> corincole, ok lemme give you a link.. [starts firefox..] 
[08:41] <corincole> ok
[08:41] <claudio_> sorry
[08:41] <corincole> its not built in?
[08:41] <targetx> corincole, nope :D it's not on synaptic
[08:41] <corincole> :o
[08:41] <targetx> nope
[08:41] <claudio_> i feel really stupid now
[08:41] <claudio_> jaajja
[08:41] <DShepherd> andi5: np
[08:41] <targetx> corincole, have you installed your videocard drivers ?
[08:41] <Mea_Culpa> crimsun, OSS
[08:41] <corincole> i have a shitty video card, and no
[08:41] <Mea_Culpa> quite and old distro it is
[08:41] <Mea_Culpa> specially for PPC
[08:41] <crimsun> Mea_Culpa: did you not just say it's not ALSA- or OSS-related?
[08:41] <targetx> corincole, ooh.. then Wolfenstein ET might be a problem.. what videocard do you have ?
[08:41] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: maybe you should upgrade to 2.4? ;)
[08:41] <Mea_Culpa> yes it is
[08:41] <corincole> Intel...
[08:42] <corincole> wait a sec
[08:42] <crimsun> (gar, stop contradicting yourself!)
[08:42] <Mea_Culpa> because OSS and ALSA both give the same problem,......except for one distro
[08:42] <freemanen> I dosen't have pnpdump trying to install put the package can't be found
[08:42] <christos> hello, how do i stop a service (say vsftpd). service vsftp stop doesn't work
[08:42] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: why that?
[08:42] <tore> Hi.  Does the Live CD automatically attempt to use any swap partitions it detects on the system?  If so, is there any way this behaviour can be disabled?
[08:42] <enyc> meep
[08:42] <crimsun> freemanen: do you pcmcia-cs installed?
[08:42] <Mea_Culpa> andi5, no idea....
[08:42] <targetx> corincole, http://www.filemirrors.com/search.src?type=begins&file=et-linux&action=Find <-- thats the file you want
[08:42] <mahangu> christos, kill the process?
[08:42] <mahangu> christos, pkill vsftpd?
[08:42] <enyc> freemanen: try to reply to my priv. wsg
[08:42] <corincole> Intel Extreme Graphics 2
[08:42] <targetx> HEY! thats not a correct way to kill a process
[08:42] <andi5> Mea_Culpa: which one, is is working perfectly there? start investigating here ;)
[08:42] <crimsun> Mea_Culpa: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:42] <mahangu> or /etc/init.d/<process name> stop?
[08:43] <corincole> targetx, http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/ho/WF06b/21675-38187-179483-179483-179483-12181118-40383803.html
[08:43] <[bw] 808y> i had installed xkeymap ... had run it ... selecet the right keyboardlayout ... than output the file .... close xkeycabs.... run "xmodmap "the file which was cr8ed"" but! my problem dindt changed
[08:43] <Mea_Culpa> ok crimsun but not on ubuntu now.....trying gentoo now....same problem
[08:43] <christos> mahangu: kill obviously works, i ll try the other one
[08:43] <[bw] 808y> i mean xkeycaps
[08:43] <targetx> corincole, hehe I have a 1,6Ghz laptop too.. a dell though
[08:43] <UnL0cK> Use LBA32 for addressing big disks using new BIOS features ? [Yes]  ??????? what's that?
[08:43] <andi5> [bw] 808y: try xev and enter your key... watch what it tells you
[08:43] <freemanen> don't have pcmcia-cs installed what is priv. wsg?
[08:43] <corincole> lol
[08:43] <corincole> targetx, i also have a PC with 64mb RAM lol
[08:44] <alsh> Hello! How can I add a user to group adm (in order for him to read logs)?
[08:44] <Albaraha> Does the installer autodetect the previous ubuntu and upgrade it?
[08:44] <targetx> corincole, I think you are out of luck there buddy
[08:44] <Mea_Culpa> http://pastebin.com/409196
[08:44] <corincole> lol, i know, ive taken it apart lol
[08:44] <crimsun> freemanen: dpkg -l pcmcia-cs|grep ^ii
[08:44] <andi5> alsh: adduser $user adm?
[08:44] <anderss> uhm how do I copy stuff from aterm?
[08:44] <[bw] 808y> KeyPress event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x2400001,
[08:44] <[bw] 808y>     root 0x60, subw 0x0, time 3077209, (794,820), root:(872,915),
[08:44] <[bw] 808y>     state 0x0, keycode 42 (keysym 0x67, g), same_screen YES,
[08:44] <[bw] 808y>     XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (67) "g"
[08:44] <[bw] 808y>     XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (67) "g"
[08:44] <[bw] 808y>     XFilterEvent returns: False
[08:44] <[bw] 808y> d
[08:44] <christos> /etc/init.d/vsftpd stop doesn't work
[08:45] <crimsun> [bw] 808y: #flood or paste.ubuntulinux.nl, please
[08:45] <targetx> corincole, there are many different types of Intel Extreme 2.. so I don't know wether yours will run it. It probably will though, the game is not *THAT* demanding
[08:45] <corincole> ok
[08:45] <freemanen> dpkg -l pcmcia-cs|grep ^ii
[08:45] <freemanen> ii  pcmcia-cs      3.2.5-11ubuntu8 PCMCIA Card Services for Linux
[08:45] <Mea_Culpa> anderss just select the text with your mouse and just middle click where you want it to be pasted
[08:45] <freemanen> what does it means?
[08:45] <targetx> corincole, but I know for a fact (tried it :p) that it doesn't run on my laptop with intel extreme 2. But my budies laptop with Intel Extreme 2 (other type..) runs it @ 60FPS :D
[08:45] <andi5> [bw] 808y: so you typed @ and not g?
[08:45] <anderss> oh great thanks
[08:45] <UnL0cK> ERROR: install-mbr failed! Your system may not be bootable.
[08:45] <boci^> So? Can I boot and install from USB pendrive?
[08:45] <UnL0cK> wtfffffffffffffffff
[08:45] <corincole> so his captial letters made the difference?
[08:45] <corincole> :P
[08:45] <targetx> I guess so :-)
[08:45] <corincole> Intel Extreme and intel extreme
[08:45] <corincole> lol
[08:46] <targetx> corincole, hehe
[08:46] <targetx> corincole, brb!
[08:46] <enyc> 0000
[08:46] <corincole> nooo
[08:46] <crimsun> freemanen: sudo aptitude install isapnptools
[08:46] <corincole> lol
[08:46] <joeb> anybody ever tried to get a creative zen nano plus working with ubuntu?
[08:46] <enyc> and 'lspnp' [??] 
[08:46] <[bw] 808y> well i typed a lot but, its not th "at" its also i cant ctrl-alt-f1 or f2 and so on
[08:46] <enyc> crimsun: ubuntu kernel has built-in 'iso-pnp'
[08:46] <freemanen> oki what to do then?
[08:47] <enyc> freemanen: do 'lspnp' ?
[08:47] <enyc> may need 'sudo lspnp' unfact
[08:48] <UnL0cK> how can i solve ERROR: install-mbr failed! Your system may not be bootable.
[08:48] <crimsun> enyc: 1) yes, it has isapnp support. 2) you do not need root access for lspnp.
[08:48] <freemanen> lspnp: /proc/bus/pnp not available
[08:48] <enyc> crim: kk
[08:48] <crimsun> Mea_Culpa: did you try muting Headphone Detection?
[08:48] <Mea_Culpa> pasted on /flood
[08:48] <Mea_Culpa> but why isn't pastebin goed enough?
[08:49] <Mea_Culpa> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3749
[08:49] <Mea_Culpa> anyway there you have it on ubuntu if that makes a difference
[08:49] <Mea_Culpa> Ipods work great :P
[08:49] <Mea_Culpa> yes
[08:49] <Mea_Culpa> tried everything
[08:49] <UnL0cK> how can i solve ERROR: install-mbr failed! Your system may not be bootable.????
[08:49] <freemanen> what do next?
[08:49] <crimsun> Mea_Culpa: cat /proc/asound/modules
[08:49] <enyc> UnL0cK: why ane you trying to install a mbr-loader [?] 
[08:49] <Mea_Culpa> cat: /proc/asound/modules: No such file or directory
[08:50] <Mea_Culpa> uh.....
[08:50] <freemanen> enyc I have a window with your name what does that mean?
[08:50] <enyc> try writing in there ;p
[08:50] <alsh> andi5: thank you for help with  adduser someuser adm! I thought that adduser can only add new users to a system, that's it... Thanks again!
[08:50] <Mea_Culpa> Alsa is not a module here crimsun
[08:50] <Mea_Culpa> I put it in the kernel
[08:51] <Mea_Culpa> the only module I have is my videocard ;)
[08:51] <UnL0cK> enyc, i have to reinstall lilo
[08:51] <Subsonix> hi
[08:52] <UnL0cK> i need to clean the mbr
[08:52] <enyc> unlo and... lilo on the mbr [?] 
[08:52] <UnL0cK> yeap
[08:52] <crimsun> Mea_Culpa: then what does cards say?
[08:52] <enyc> unlo: ubuntu normally uses GRUB loader, not lilo ....
[08:52] <Camuflage> hey all
[08:52] <TiMiDo> hey Camuflage
[08:52] <Camuflage> my lilo it's not working properly :(
[08:52] <anderss> what repository should I add if I want final OpenOffice2?
[08:52] <corincole> target, u back yet?
[08:53] <TiMiDo> Camuflage well, ubuntu doesn't used lilo
[08:53] <christos> i m doing /etc/init.d/vsftpd stop and i get cannot open config file:stop
[08:53] <Camuflage> es tuga TiMiDo ?
[08:53] <TiMiDo> christos check the config
[08:53] <crimsun> ubuntu does use lilo under specific conditions.
[08:53] <crimsun> for instance, if you use lvm, you must use lilo
[08:53] <TiMiDo> bla
[08:53] <occy> cribbon, http://fuse.sourceforge.net/  <-- does this come with Ubuntu by default?  Or is it something installed when I apt-get installed sshfs ?
[08:53] <crimsun> cribbon?
[08:54] <TiMiDo> !info fuse
[08:54] <cribbon> aye, thats me ;)
[08:54] <cribbon> but he ment you =)
[08:54] <UnL0cK> I WANT TO USE LILO, IT's LINUX, IM SUPPOSED TO CONFIGURE IT AS I WANT!!! :@
[08:54] <occy> heh
[08:54] <Camuflage> i already used lilo in ubuntu, i can't use the grub cause it gives an error...
[08:54] <occy> damned nick completion
[08:54] <TiMiDo> UnL0cK lower you'r caps plz
[08:54] <occy> crimsun, :)
[08:54] <occy> crimsun, what I wrote for cribbon up above.
[08:54] <anderss> Repository for final OpenOffice 2.0?
[08:55] <bluefrog-10> UnL0cK, mandriva uses lilo...
[08:55] <Camuflage> actualy lilo just let me go to windows, i think there's missing something... if i choose to go to linux it just says: linux loading........... stops and nothing more happens...
[08:55] <crimsun> occy: yes, it's compiled as a module
[08:55] <occy> crimsun, so I probably don't want to remove it.
[08:55] <enyc> unlo well... if lilo is on MBR... then the install-mbr loader isn't
[08:55] <occy> heh
[08:55] <crimsun> (modinfo fuse)
[08:55] <occy> right?
[08:55] <Phr0zenKore> [PC] XeRoX: hi
[08:55] <[PC] XeRoX> I got a question
[08:55] <Phr0zenKore> [PC] XeRoX: i'm here 2 help ya :P
[08:56] <mar> hi
[08:56] <enyc> \// vice-versa
[08:56] <Phr0zenKore> yea
[08:56] <Phr0zenKore> he's got problems with the mirrors
[08:56] <Phr0zenKore> :p
[08:56] <Camuflage> i'm using a live cd right now of ubuntu 5.04, anyone can help me to configure lilo? pvt me
[08:56] <budluva> Camuflage you shouldnt have to with the live cd
[08:56] <[PC] XeRoX> Can someone help me please?
[08:56] <budluva> boot it in, make sure bios boots to cdrom
[08:56] <budluva> restart
[08:56] <crimsun> [PC] XeRoX: just ask your question
[08:57] <crimsun> occy: if you're using sshfs, no you wouldn't want to
[08:57] <mar> how can i install java/
[08:57] <budluva> mar apt-cache search jre
[08:57] <budluva> then apt-get install jre1.5blahblah
[08:58] <corincole> targetx, anyone at home?
[08:58] <Mea_Culpa> java sucks :(
[08:58] <Mea_Culpa> stupid IBM
[08:58] <occy> crimsun, I am getting rid of sshfs  it didn't work.
[08:58] <idefix1976> what does the first digit in -rwxrwxrwx stabd for?
[08:58] <WildZeck> what about java ?
[08:58] <occy> crimsun, so I'm trying to purge unecessary cruft from my system.
[08:58] <[PC] XeRoX> crimsun, i need kinda help..
[08:58] <idefix1976> stand for..
[08:58] <crimsun> occy: sshfs worked fine when I used it
[08:58] <occy> crimsun, wanted to make sure that the fuse-utils wasn't something that came with ubuntu by default
[08:59] <[PC] XeRoX> i got an error in my mirror list or something
[08:59] <[PC] XeRoX> >.<
[08:59] <absenth> if I wanted to install xfce on breezy, is apt-get install xfce4 all I need, or is there a package like kubuntu that can be installed?
[08:59] <occy> crimsun, didn't work for me[tm]     :(
[08:59] <crimsun> mar: download a jre/jdk from sun/ibm, install java-package from multiverse, and create your own deb
[08:59] <idefix1976> great I'm being ignored
[08:59] <crimsun> absenth: xubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <Subsonix> idefix1976: nope
[08:59] <crimsun> idefix1976: hush, some of us are busy
[08:59] <Phr0zenKore> help [PC] XeRoX :P
[08:59] <jesse_> idefix1976: the first digit?
[08:59] <bluefrog-10> idefix1976, just ask ur question
[08:59] <idefix1976> what is the first digit in the -rwxrwxrwx for?
[08:59] <UnL0cK> ok
[08:59] <absenth> crimsun: = the bomb.  You're a walking, talkin... er Typing, ubuntu encyclopedia.  Many thanks.
[08:59] <UnL0cK> lets pray grub works
[09:00] <crimsun> idefix1976: it specifies what type of file it is
[09:00] <freemanen> what do I have to then
[09:00] <budgester> idefix? you mean the -
[09:00] <[PC] XeRoX> SOMEONE HELP ME FOR GOD SAKE!
[09:00] <freemanen> enyc have problems to install a nick
[09:00] <idefix1976> yeah the -
[09:00] <[PC] XeRoX> PLZ
[09:00] <budluva> [PC] XeRoX not gonna get help like that man
[09:00] <crimsun> idefix1976: directory, socket, symlink, etc.
[09:00] <Mea_Culpa> [PC] XeRoX, Try shootnig some flares...that should get their attention!
[09:00] <crimsun> idefix1976: read the man page for ls if you want to know more
[09:00] <bluefrog-10> [PC] XeRoX, with caps not likely to get help and without a question even less
[09:00] <budgester> [PC]  no ones getting paid here, please be nice
[09:00] <idefix1976> k thx
[09:01] <crimsun> [PC] XeRoX: what the heck is the issue that DEMANDS everyone's attention
[09:01] <enyc> freemanen: errr NIC --Network Interface Card [??] 
[09:01] <freemanen> I don't understand
[09:01] <crimsun> occy: sorry to hear that, got any diagnostics?
[09:01] <targetx> corincole, back :)
[09:01] <budgester> [PC]  ok mate, whats the problem i'll try and help
[09:01] <occy> crimsun, pm
[09:01] <Mea_Culpa> By the way....do you need to download Breezey or can you also download a snapshot with ubuntu?
[09:01] <freemanen> sudo lspnp lspnp: /proc/bus/pnp not available
[09:01] <Mea_Culpa> Like a snapshot DVD...
[09:01] <corincole> yay!
[09:01] <jesse_> go [PC] XeRoX , we're listening
[09:01] <budgester> [PC]  but then you gotta be nice ;-)
[09:01] <corincole> :)
[09:01] <crimsun> occy: sec, being bombarded...
[09:02] <freemanen> that is the error?
[09:02] <[PC] XeRoX> I have a problem in the mirror list
[09:02] <occy> hehe
[09:02] <targetx> corincole, sorry, ill brb AGAIN... bah
[09:02] <[PC] XeRoX> Its all wrong
[09:02] <Xitium> My system time seems to be moving at twice the rate that it should. I set the clock to 12pm and a half hour later it says it is 1pm, It does this both under linux and windows but in the bios time seems to be normal. I have no idea where to go to try and fix this any ideas?
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[09:02] <[PC] XeRoX> i cant update
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[09:02] <budluva> [PC] XeRoX your sources.list? for apt?
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[09:02] <corincole> target, help me get on wolfenstein, im getting addicted to Frozen Bubble!!!
[09:02] <corincole> :'(
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[09:02] <crimsun> freemanen: do you know the i/o port, the irq, dma channels, etc. for your sound chipset?
[09:02] <Xitium> Old Today, 06:24 AM 	  #2
[09:02] <[PC] XeRoX> budluva: Yea
[09:02] <budgester> [PC]  what error you getting ?
[09:02] <bluefrog-10> miroor is broken, seven bad years..
[09:02] <Xitium> Cricket
[09:02] <Xitium> I'm A Lagomorph
[09:02] <Xitium> 
[09:02] <budluva> bah
[09:02] <[PC] XeRoX> 404 not found error
[09:02] <Xitium> Cricket's Avatar
[09:02] <Xitium> 
[09:02] <budluva> quit pasting
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[09:02] <crimsun> freemanen: if not, you should be able to retrieve that information from your motherboard's bios.
[09:02] <Xitium> Posts: 24,685
[09:02] <Xitium> Cricket is online now
[09:02] <occy> !ops
[09:02] <Xitium> 
[09:02] <ubotu> somebody said ops was Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[09:02] <budgester> [PC]  which mirror ?
[09:02] <Xitium> Certain programs that run in background have been known to cause this. I know Norton System Works has been known to do this. Did the problem start after you installed something?
[09:02] <Xitium> Cricket
[09:02] <budluva> Xitium Quit Pasting!
[09:02] <jesse_> [PC] XeRoX: which mirror?
[09:02] <Xitium> 
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[09:03] <crimsun> err
[09:03] <suresh00> scim broken in breezy?
[09:03] <occy> crimsun, hahaha
[09:03] <occy> crimsun, ;)
[09:03] <crimsun> lovely.
[09:03] <idefix1976> so some admin can seperate its users into groups and different groups have access to files of their own group but not to other groups...
[09:03] <corincole> !tell corincole about ops
[09:03] <mar> crim i have jre-1_5_0_01-linux-i586.bin on my desktop
[09:03] <occy> did I do the ops thing right?
[09:04] <jesse_> [PC] XeRoX: which mirror?
[09:04] <idefix1976> hey mar I have it too!
[09:04] <idefix1976> not on my desktop but in some directory
[09:04] <Phr0zenKore> us.archive.ubuntu.org
[09:04] <Phr0zenKore> .com*
[09:04] <Phr0zenKore> something like that
[09:04] <[PC] XeRoX> Yea
[09:04] <[PC] XeRoX> That one
[09:04] <Phr0zenKore> yup :P
[09:04] <[PC] XeRoX> Exactly
[09:04] <idefix1976> mar mar mar
[09:04] <[PC] XeRoX> i think
[09:04] <[PC] XeRoX> :X
[09:04] <[PC] XeRoX> Thats it
[09:04] <Phr0zenKore> :P
[09:04] <occy> Seveas, did I do the ops thing right? ie. there was an issue and I did !ops ?
[09:04] <jesse_> [PC] XeRoX: let me check here
[09:04] <Seveas> occy, yup
[09:04] <Phr0zenKore> i think it's off
[09:04] <Phr0zenKore> :x
[09:04] <[PC] XeRoX> Jesse: ok..
[09:04] <occy> k, tx
[09:05] <boci^> So? Can I boot and install from USB pendrive on my G3 ?
[09:05] <mar> ide did u instll it? and how
[09:05] <freemanen> I will go to bios and check that
[09:05] <jesse_> [PC] XeRoX: is it the backports tree?
[09:05] <absenth> does nano have a global search and replace feature?
[09:05] <Phr0zenKore> jesse_: yes, universe.
[09:05] <crimsun> mar: have you installed java-package from multiverse?
[09:05] <budluva> absenth ctrl w is find in nano
[09:05] <jesse_> Phr0zenKore: i can ping it just fine
[09:05] <Phr0zenKore> jesse_: weirdddddd...
[09:05] <Phr0zenKore> jesse_: and nmap?
[09:06] <Phr0zenKore> nmap output*
[09:06] <mannyman> I want to install firefox 1.5 beta 2 but I don't what commands are needed
[09:06] <mar> crim I dont know I'm new at this
[09:06] <dpm_> I have just compiled and installed my kernel with make-kpkg (with kernel_image and kernel_header targets). How do I go about patching a module? I do not have to recompile the whole thing again, do I?
[09:06] <mannyman> the ones on the site don't work
[09:06] <jesse_> Phr0zenKore: i dont follow
[09:06] <Phr0zenKore> mannyman: first, enable universe, then, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-<version>
[09:06] <Phr0zenKore> something like that.
[09:06] <Phr0zenKore> jesse_: the output of a portscan.
[09:06] <mannyman> thanks I'll try that
[09:07] <absenth> budluva: along the lines of :%s/oldstring/newstring in vi?
[09:07] <idefix1976> mar?
[09:07] <idefix1976> is mar still online?
[09:07] <mar> yes
[09:07] <idefix1976> what did you do with the java file?
[09:07] <crimsun> !tell mar about repos
[09:07] <duncanm> firefox is defaulting to using xpdf to show pdfs, can i make it use evince instead?
[09:08] <crimsun> mar: follow those directions to install the java-package package
[09:08] <mar> ok
[09:08] <idefix1976> what does it mean when a file is bright bold and green?
[09:09] <Shadowline> idefix1976: it better see a doctor before soemthing falls off....
[09:09] <idefix1976> ??
[09:09] <mike_> ?
[09:09] <idefix1976> Bill Gates turned 50 today
[09:09] <mike_> so what
[09:10] <idefix1976> well, isn't that special...
[09:10] <corincole> targetx???
[09:10] <mike_> jupp
[09:10] <targetx> corincole, yes!
[09:10] <targetx> reporting in.. ready for duty etc
[09:10] <mike_> mir doch egal
[09:10] <joeb> anybody ever tried to get a creative zen nano plus working with ubuntu?
[09:10] <UnL0cK> i have a problem with my wifi
[09:10] <corincole> brb, finishing level opf Frozen bubble
[09:10] <corincole> lol
[09:10] <occy> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/409230
[09:10] <targetx> mike_, ENGLISH!
[09:10] <giees> idefix1976, are u shure?
[09:11] <idefix1976> I heard it on the radio
[09:11] <corincole> ok, hi target
[09:11] <mike_> kann ich nicht
[09:11] <signius> why are all the gb.archive apt source urls not working
[09:11] <corincole> (i can call you that, right?)
[09:11] <corincole> :P
[09:11] <corincole> target, wolfenstein...  now...  :)
[09:11] <budluva> signius mirror down? archive.ubuntu.com works fine
[09:11] <mike_> svenska ?
[09:11] <puff> I added several extensions to firefox about 30 minutes ago.  I was delaying restarting firefox until I was done with something else, then my machine froze up - I suspect a memory issue there.
[09:12] <signius> so are you supposed to re enter all the source lists again ?
[09:12] <puff> Rebooted the hard way (hold down the power for 4 seconds).  Now starting firefox doesn't start.
[09:12] <corincole> targetx, stop going away!!!
[09:12] <corincole> :'(
[09:12] <puff> It starts to start, but never does start, doesn't seem to give me any diagnostic.
[09:13] <targetx> im not away :D
[09:13] <corincole> :)
[09:13] <occy> dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `fuse' in statusoverride file
[09:13] <occy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[09:13] <corincole> help me get wolfenstein then!
[09:13] <corincole> :D
[09:13] <occy> :(
[09:13] <giees> BG Born October 28, 1955 can anybody calculate it?
[09:13] <TiMiDo> occy rm the packaged the packaged that is giving u the error
[09:13] <targetx> corincole, I gave you the link to install it didn't i ?
[09:13] <corincole> nopw
[09:13] <P8ntKid> How do i get the w32codecs in breezy?
[09:13] <budluva> giees 60 years? almost to the day
[09:13] <targetx> corincole, http://www.filemirrors.com/search.src?type=begins&file=et-linux&action=Find
[09:13] <budluva> giees ya exactly 60 years
[09:13] <gildo> anyone here use nagios?
[09:14] <signius> is anyone else here using the the gb.archive.ubuntu apt source list servers and if so are you having any problem with them
[09:14] <corincole> u said "im starting ff to find link...."  then "brb"...  then "back" then "brb"
[09:14] <corincole> lol
[09:14] <targetx> Oh I'm pretty sure i gave you the link.. sorry then
[09:14] <occy> TiMiDo, not sure I understand that
[09:14] <corincole> so i download et-linux-2.60.x86.run ?
[09:14] <jesse_> P8ntKid: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[09:15] <targetx> corincole, yes!
[09:15] <corincole> ok, its on 5% lol
[09:15] <occy> crimsun, help!
[09:15] <occy> heh
[09:15] <corincole> 6!
[09:15] <corincole> :)
[09:15] <budluva> signius gb.archive.ubuntu.com pings ok, does it spit out an error?
[09:16] <P8ntKid> jesse_: Thats not in english
[09:16] <occy> my system is now losing all of it's theme and everything
[09:16] <occy> it's all going wacky
[09:16] <P8ntKid> jesse_: Nvm.
[09:16] <jesse_> P8ntKid: it translates for me ...
[09:16] <occy> crap
[09:16] <jesse_> P8ntKid: ok
[09:16] <occy> I knew I shouldn't have installed that sshfs crap
[09:16] <occy> :(
[09:16] <P8ntKid> jesse_: Thanks for the link.
[09:17] <jesse_> P8ntKid: You're welcome and good luck!
[09:17] <signius> yep
[09:17] <signius> telling me W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:17] <signius> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:17] <compDo> Which GUI tools, besides k3b, can you recommend to burn daa CD-Rs?
[09:17] <signius> i got a tonne of errors like that
[09:17] <tritium> compDo, graveman, gnomebaker
[09:18] <budgester> hi all, can anyone let me know where the best w32codecs arechive is at the mo
[09:18] <mawe> signius: tried apt-get clean, then apt-get update?
[09:18] <compDo> tritium, thx, I'll check them out
[09:18] <signius> i havnt i will try that now
[09:18] <signius> whats that do ?
[09:18] <mawe> cleans your local repo cache
[09:18] <targetx> corincole, where do you live ?
[09:19] <targetx> corincole, (country)
[09:19] <corincole> uk
[09:19] <corincole> u?
[09:19] <corincole> norway?
[09:19] <targetx> corincole, I don't live too far away from you then :-) I live in GMT+1.. you live in GMT :D
[09:19] <corincole> :)
[09:19] <corincole> where?
[09:19] <corincole> spain?
[09:19] <targetx> corincole, The Netherlands!
[09:19] <signius> ok command line apt is getting stuff now
[09:19] <signius> whats that apt-clean do ?
[09:19] <corincole> man, all computer whizzs live there!!!
[09:19] <corincole> ol
[09:19] <targetx> corincole, you know.. that country wich legaly allows drugs etc
[09:19] <corincole> lol*
[09:19] <corincole> :@
[09:19] <targetx> corincole, :P
[09:19] <corincole> Seveas lives there too lol
[09:19] <signius> or apt-get clean even
[09:20] <targetx> corincole, not that I use it.. but most ppl tend to think we dutchies are crackheads
[09:20] <targetx> corincole, yep I know
[09:20] <budgester> corincole: hey us from the uk gotta try and catch up
[09:20] <corincole> yup, u are lol
[09:20] <targetx> NL > all ;)
[09:20] <corincole> budgester, hell yeah!
[09:20] <signius> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:20] <signius> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:20] <signius> root@ubuntu:~#
[09:20] <targetx> signius, try to think for yourself there. IS another process using it ?
[09:20] <budgester> signus: try running it sudo
[09:20] <mawe> signius: cleans your local apt cache and removes old downloads
[09:20] <signius> yeah i was being dumb had synaptic open
[09:20] <targetx> budgester, he allready is root so that will not help!!!
[09:20] <occy> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29737.html
[09:21] <targetx> signius, see ? Linux is about learning for yourself!
[09:21] <budgester> whoops slap me
[09:21] <signius> slap me with about a wet fish
[09:21] <targetx> signius, you have more knowledge within you than you might think
[09:21] <mawe> use the force, signius!
[09:21] <budgester> it's just we all have bouts of stupidity now and then
[09:21] <targetx> true.. some more than others though
[09:21] <mawe> or apt-get for that matter...
[09:21] <targetx> corincole, I'm a great fan of England :) don't worry
[09:22] <corincole> :)
[09:22] <targetx> I've been to London once, I loved it. I've even done my study in English
[09:22] <budgester> yer, apt-get stupidity
[09:22] <corincole> :D
[09:22] <targetx> my secondary school that is..
[09:22] <corincole> how old are you?
[09:22] <targetx> corincole, 17, but will be turning 18 in 4 months or so
[09:22] <signius> that is a seriously miss leading error message synaptic gives tho
[09:22] <corincole> :)
[09:22] <corincole> m/f?
[09:22] <targetx> signius, why is it missleading ?
[09:22] <budgester> ah, you a we baby
[09:22] <budluva> signius how is that missleading?
[09:22] <tritium> signius, no it's not
[09:23] <farruinn> signius: the one you posted?
[09:23] <budluva> signius could not get lock should tell you right there
[09:23] <signius> when is says no such file or directory
[09:23] <budluva> signius also, "is something else using it" is pretty obvious :P
[09:23] <signius> no i am refering to the original errors
[09:23] <targetx> o
[09:23] <budluva> signius so does gb.archive work now? :P
[09:23] <signius> the something using it was entirely my fault and realised straight away
[09:23] <targetx> corincole, have you used google earth ?
[09:23] <signius> i took a wet for that
[09:24] <targetx> signius, too bad you still asked us and looked dumb though :D
[09:24] <signius> yes the archive is working now
[09:24] <corincole> targetx, yes, but not on linux
[09:24] <Coburn> how i can install packages from my hardrive, when i try apt get my computer try to pickup from internet!!
[09:24] <thirso>   jeronim`     mcrawfor     sri          xester       _tester_     Moder        DelPede      GnarlyBob    deltron        
[09:24] <thirso>   daxxar       xxenon       Strog        CarlK        Juhaz        shawarma     RemoteViewe  xfelon       Azalyn         
[09:24] <thirso>   TTilus       lhb          ubotu        Revellion    ben_d        nullman      HiveDrone    ccooke                      
[09:24] <thirso>   
[09:24] <budluva> bah
[09:24] <targetx> corincole, it isn't on linux yet, unfortunately.. but some ppl are working on it
[09:24] <budluva> quick pasting in here
[09:24] <signius> YEP but i am man enough to take a wet fish once in a while when i was being dumb
[09:24] <targetx> lol thirso :)
[09:24] <corincole> ok
[09:24] <mawe> Coburn: use dpkg
[09:24] <targetx> signius, haha!
[09:24] <corincole> targetx, brb, my download is still on 54% lol
[09:25] <budgester> if you have a deb that you downloaded dpkg -i **.deb
[09:25] <targetx> corincole, see ya in a sec! :D
[09:25] <corincole> target, if u have any messages, pm me, or i wont see them
[09:25] <corincole> ;)
[09:25] <signius> but giving an error of no such file or directory as an error when that isnt really the problem is miss leading is what i was saying
[09:25] <targetx> corincole, roger that! will do
[09:25] <Ropechoborra> Hi ! :)
[09:25] <signius> synaptic nor apt gave any hint to point me in the direction of the apt-get clean solution
[09:26] <tritium> signius, solution to what?
[09:26] <targetx> signius, what does apt-get clean do ?
[09:26] <tritium> all apt-get clean does is remove the .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives dir
[09:26] <Mabus06> anyone have advice for me on how to get my geforce working properly?
[09:26] <signius> cleans the apt cache apparantly but i dint know anything about that command until someone in the room suggest to try it
[09:26] <tritium> !tell Mabus06 about nvidia
[09:26] <Mabus06> Thanks tritium but I tried what that page said.
[09:27] <tritium> signius, that's not a solution to anything other than running out of disk space
[09:27] <Mabus06> But it always freezes at hotfix.
[09:27] <tritium> hotfix?
[09:27] <Mabus06> errr
[09:27] <Mabus06> "hoplug subsystem"
[09:27] <thirso> woops :D
[09:27] <UnL0cK> i cant write on my / and i need to, how can i?
[09:27] <signius> I am nowhere near to running out of disk space but it did resolve the problem
[09:27] <Mabus06> hotplug*
[09:27] <joeb> anybody ever tried to get a creative zen nano plus working with ubuntu?
[09:27] <tritium> signius, nonsense
[09:28] <targetx> joeb, nope, but I think it just works as a regular USB Mass Storage Device
[09:28] <signius> tritium what are you saying is nonesence
[09:28] <GamanaAm> hi
[09:28] <tritium> signius, apt-get clean will only free up disk space.  What are you claiming it solved?
[09:28] <targetx> hehe lol
[09:28] <HiddenWolf> Anyoone here into grub black magic?
[09:28] <GuardianX> Need help.... I want to configure my modem in hoary,  i got the Cd with the drivers but i dont know wich one is for linux :( (got this folders: NT4 , WinME, Win9x, Win2K_XP, WHQL)
[09:28] <targetx> HiddenWolf, hey there little bunny
[09:28] <Seveas> HiddenWolf, that's not black magic
[09:28] <Seveas> it's voodoo
[09:29] <signius> did you see my full problem from the beginning ?
[09:29] <Mabus06> tritium: it freezes at hotplug subsystem whether or not I fresh install with the geforce
[09:29] <HiddenWolf> Seveas, check -nl. ;)
[09:29] <HiddenWolf> targetx, LOL. :)
[09:29] <UnL0cK> i cant write on my / and i need to, how can i?
[09:29] <tritium> Mabus06, doesn't sound like an issue with your geforce then
[09:29] <Mabus06> guardianX: try ndiswrapper using windows drivers
[09:29] <joeb> targetx: i thought so too
[09:29] <joeb> targetx: but it just locks everything up
[09:29] <targetx> joeb, ooh... maybe dmesg output or /var/log/messages* can assist you in tracing down what the problem is ?
[09:29] <tritium> signius, nope
[09:30] <targetx> or google..
[09:30] <Mabus06> what would the problem be then, tritium?
[09:30] <joeb> targetx: you get the message of a new usb devices in /var/log/messages but if you try to cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
[09:30] <bam_> anyone running xfce by itself?
[09:30] <signius> after i ran apt-get clean then apt-get update it resolved the problem with it telling me about no such file and directory when running synaptic
[09:30] <joeb> targetx: it locks until you remove the zen
[09:30] <targetx> joeb, rephrase that sentence please. it doesn't make sence
[09:30] <tritium> Mabus06, you haven't provided enough info to be sure
[09:30] <signius> so it must do more than what you are saying
[09:30] <hangoverman> i should change my nick to s00pern00b or something you are speaking in a foreign language
[09:30] <Mabus06> what info do you need tritium
[09:30] <giees> what it mean xfce4 is lighter then gnome?
[09:30] <targetx> joeb, ok I get it now after your sec comment
[09:31] <giees> is it true?
[09:31] <bam_> faster, less resource
[09:31] <bam_> s
[09:31] <targetx> giees, yes it is
[09:31] <tritium> signius, nope.  man apt-get if you don't believe me
[09:31] <targetx> giees, but only by a slight margin, on modern hardware that is..
[09:31] <jesse_> enlightenment owns xfce and gnome
[09:31] <idefix1976> wow, linux has some cool screensavers man
[09:31] <joeb> targetx: :) sorry habit of typing in a less crowded channel
[09:31] <signius> prior to running the apt-get clean it was telling me the apt sources i was using didnt exist when they actually did exist and there was nothing wrong with them at all
[09:31] <bam_> e17, hard to deal with
[09:31] <targetx> joeb, no problem!
[09:31] <hangoverman> where can a n00b like me go to learn what you are all talking about please?
[09:31] <Mabus06> tritium: P4P800MX mobo, p4 2.8ghz processor, 1gb corsair ram, 160GB HD
[09:32] <Mabus06> hangoverman it will come to you in time... I'm new as well
[09:32] <bam_> if i could run all my apps in e17, I would run it
[09:32] <idefix1976> holy moly, your computer is about 8 times as fast as mine!
[09:32] <signius> mawe signius: cleans your local apt cache and removes old downloads
[09:32] <Mabus06> Try going to the ubuntu wiki and looking up basic commands though
[09:32] <jesse_> i run all my apps in e17
[09:32] <hangoverman> Mabus....i sure hope so
[09:32] <jesse_> no problems
[09:32] <bam_> 'gnome, etc...
[09:32] <targetx> joeb, I suggest googling for it.. something like 'using zen on linux' for example.. I think that, if there is a fix, google knows it
[09:32] <joeb> targetx: in windows, it does indeed come up as a mass storage thing, but in linux it come up and nothing, i have tried gnomad2 and that just hangs, I have tried a standard pen drive to make sure Im not going mad and that works
[09:32] <P8ntKid> I have mplayer installed and the firefox plugin installed. But i dont know how to make firefox use mplayer to play video files. Right now its trying to use totem :(
[09:32] <bam_> rather gnome apps?
[09:32] <Ropechoborra> Hi! Need to install and configure my modem in hoary, got the drivers on the CD but there are 5 diferent folders.. (WinME, Win9x, NT4, Win2K_XP and WHQL (this is just for PCtel)
[09:32] <jesse_> then again, ive converted to using e17 as the window manager and still load gnome
[09:32] <joeb> targetx: looks like im hosed then, have been googling for about an hour :(
[09:32] <bam_> ahhh
[09:32] <jesse_> quite fast
[09:33] <joeb> targetx: right im off to the pub sod this ;)
[09:33] <bam_> kinda defeats the purpose of light?
[09:33] <targetx> joeb, ahh crap.. I'm suspecting that it is something in the kernel that is not responding to some querry made by the zen
[09:33] <hangoverman> thanks Mabus...going toi go take a look
[09:33] <bam_> how did you do that?
[09:33] <jesse_> not really, e17 is loads lighter than metacity
[09:33] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid, is there not a setting in firefox for default player?
[09:33] <Utah_Dave> I'm having trouble setting up my proxy in apt.  On the internet I only find references to putting in the info in /etc/apt/apt.conf    But I don't find those in Ubuntu
[09:33] <jesse_> as a window manager
[09:33] <Mabus06> hangoverman article is actually Basiccomands, no spaces
[09:33] <hangoverman> kay
[09:33] <targetx> joeb, maybe you can try upgrading your kernel .. which kernel are you using ?
[09:33] <jesse_> bam_: you want a link to how i did it?
[09:33] <bam_> yes
[09:33] <bam_> please
[09:34] <jesse_> one sec
[09:34] <xfelon> hahahey
[09:34] <joeb> targetx: well i have a week off work, how hard can it been to write a device driver? (2.6.12-8-386 ooh not 12-9 will have to check that)!
[09:34] <P8ntKid> gnomefreak: Idk i cant find it. Do you know where it is?
[09:34] <xfelon> anyone know how to transfer files locally from ubuntu to XP?
[09:34] <joeb> targetx: cheers for you help, i really am off now
[09:34] <Ropechoborra> Hi! Need to install and configure my modem in hoary, got the drivers on the CD but there are 5 diferent folders.. (WinME, Win9x, NT4, Win2K_XP and WHQL (this is just for PCtel)
[09:34] <targetx> joeb, goodbye!
[09:34] <bam_> xfelon, windows cant read linux partitions
[09:34] <bluefrog-10> xfelon, do u know the admin passwd on xp?
[09:34] <targetx> joeb, (perhaps try 686 kernel :P)
[09:35] <Mabus06> xfelon: do you have a LAN with both computers on it?
[09:35] <xfelon> yes
[09:35] <xfelon> Mabus06 yes
[09:35] <bluefrog-10> xfelon, locally sry u can't
[09:35] <jesse_> bam_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=
[09:35] <xfelon> I want to transfer my music from XP to Ubuntu
[09:35] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid, im sorry no i just looked i thought there was one. there is a part for plug-ins but i dont know how to set it.
[09:35] <xfelon> WHY
[09:35] <jesse_> bam_: its a guide for hoary, but i used it for breezy
[09:35] <bluefrog-10> xfelon, except if u want to fiddle with captive ntfs
[09:35] <xfelon> no thanks
[09:35] <xfelon> how do i dual boot then?
[09:35] <Ropechoborra> xfelon mount the partition where you got xp and the just use the command cp (copy)
[09:35] <Ropechoborra> or move
[09:35] <Mabus06> I had no troubles transferring from windows to linux, but if these guys say you can't do the reverse I'd trust them
[09:35] <davro> xfelon: setup samba or install an ssh/scp client
[09:36] <xfelon> samba?
[09:36] <budluva> xfelon transfer files from computer to computer? or partition to partition?
[09:36] <targetx> Mabus06, why wouldn't you be able to do that
[09:36] <jesse_> bam_: my desktop http://www.eng.utoledo.edu/~jbrown/ScreenshotNew.png
[09:36] <xfelon> sudo apt-get install samba?
[09:36] <Utah_Dave> I was able to access my ntfs partition from Ubuntu
[09:36] <xfelon> computer 2 computer
[09:36] <gnomefreak> !tell samba
[09:36] <budluva> xfelon you ftp or scp man
[09:36] <Mabus06> targetx: I don't nknow, ask these guys, I'm a noob
[09:36] <corincole> yo targetx, back
[09:36] <corincole> :)
[09:36] <budluva> xfelon use ftp or scp i mean
[09:36] <xfelon> ftp would be slow
[09:36] <targetx> Mabus06, lol it's certainly possible.. either way. WIN -> LIN -> WIN
[09:36] <bluefrog-10> xfelon, log with xp use explore2fs to tranfer from windows things in linux to windows
[09:36] <targetx> corincole, wb!
[09:36] <bam_> disgusting
[09:36] <budluva> xfelon lol no
[09:36] <GNeRaL> hi
[09:36] <Utah_Dave> xfelon: System=>Administration=>disks
[09:36] <bam_> cool
[09:36] <corincole> wb?
[09:36] <targetx> corincole, welcome back
[09:37] <corincole> :D
[09:37] <targetx> corincole, gee you british ppl have a long way to come ;)
[09:37] <jesse_> bam_: very fast and secsi
[09:37] <corincole> lol
[09:37] <corincole> :@
[09:37] <bam_> cool, gonna config now
[09:37] <corincole> the file has finished downloading
[09:37] <corincole> :)
[09:37] <gnomefreak> burn them to cd and install them to linux???/
[09:37] <hotzenplotz> is ubuntu supportin daemontools ?
[09:37] <bluefrog-10> xfelon, locally for u is same computer or 2 computers?
[09:37] <bam_> bbl, playing with e17, again
[09:37] <jesse_> bam_: www.get-e.org is very helpful
[09:37] <targetx> hotzenplotz, no but you can mount ISO's through your loop
[09:37] <corincole> what now targetx?
[09:37] <Mabus06> I have seen people with my problem all over the ninternet, nobody seems to get it fixed.
[09:37] <xfelon> locally for me
[09:37] <jesse_> another enlightenment convert!
[09:37] <xfelon> from my laptop 2 pc
[09:37] <jesse_> woohoo
[09:37] <targetx> terminal -> chmod +x the file you just downloaded -> sudo sh <filename>.run
[09:37] <signius> have read the section on man apt-get clean and i have to agree with mawe that it does clean the clean and various other things it isnt just used to create disk space and as it resolved my issue i can confirm that it isnt only useful for creating space it does also resolve some apt errors
[09:37] <budluva> xfelon if the 2 computers are on the same network, ftp will be fast, if they are both on different networks it will be slow
[09:38] <budluva> xfelon ftp is your fastest way
[09:38] <hotzenplotz> targetx: i did not thought about the mounting tool but the process management tool
[09:38] <xfelon> same netowrk i thnk
[09:38] <GNeRaL> hi
[09:38] <xfelon> k
[09:38] <Xirdneh> hi there
[09:38] <GNeRaL> http://pastebin.com/409265
[09:38] <bluefrog-10> xfelon, ok then xp pro or xp home?
[09:38] <xfelon> uhh
[09:38] <xfelon> home
[09:38] <corincole> targetx, wtf?
[09:38] <GNeRaL> why i receiving this error, who man can help me ? : http://pastebin.com/409265
[09:38] <Mabus06> It always freezes at hotplug if I use my geforce.
[09:38] <corincole> :P
[09:38] <farruinn> how come we can't search at packages.ubuntu.com?
[09:38] <targetx> hotzenplotz, sorry, didn't know that
[09:38] <targetx> corincole, whats the problem mate ?
[09:38] <bluefrog-10> xfelon, u nedd to share a folder on your xp
[09:38] <xfelon> k
[09:38] <corincole> what do i do with the file i downloaded?
[09:38] <idefix1976> where is the channel for gardening?
[09:38] <bluefrog-10> xfelon, with a password
[09:39] <targetx> corincole, get in a console
[09:39] <hotzenplotz> targetx: kk. no problem :)
[09:39] <corincole> ok
[09:39] <tritium> signius, read the manpage again.  It does one thing -- remove .debs from the cache
[09:39] <P8ntKid> I have mplayer installed and the firefox plugin installed. But i dont know how to make firefox use mplayer to play video files. Right now its trying to use totem :(
[09:39] <hangoverman> wow...got sum reedn to doo
[09:39] <targetx> p8m, mozplug or something is what it's called
[09:39] <budluva> xfelon http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51611&highlight=ftp+server tells you howto setup an ftp server in ubuntu, then fire up your favorite ftp program in windows and there you go
[09:39] <xfelon> k
[09:39] <corincole> target, im there...
[09:39] <GNeRaL> who man can help me ? : http://pastebin.com/409265
[09:39] <targetx> corincole, can you become root by typing su or do you allways use sudo ?
[09:39] <xfelon> do you use smartftp?
[09:39] <budluva> i use flashfxp
[09:39] <corincole> i can do su
[09:39] <corincole> ;)
[09:40] <budluva> but smartftp will work
[09:40] <Mabus06> does anyone know how to resolve problem with my computer freezing at hotplug whenever geforce is used? it will freeze if I install fresh with geforce, of if i install using my onboard video and then install nvidia drivers.
[09:40] <targetx> corincole, oke, become root (su) then do: chmod +x <file> and then ./file
[09:40] <tritium> targetx, use sudo -i if you want a shell
[09:40] <corincole> ok, im root now...
[09:40] <corincole> how?
[09:40] <corincole> :o
[09:40] <targetx> corincole, where file is the thing you just downloaded
[09:40] <farruinn> GNeRaL: try asking a question - poeple aren't likely to just go to the pastebin to find out what your problem is
[09:40] <targetx> corincole, chmod +x file
[09:40] <budluva> even ftp://user:pass@yourserverip:21 (21 is ftp port) in ie/firefox in windows will work
[09:40] <corincole> +x?
[09:40] <Revellion> GNeRaL: what are you using Xover for?
[09:40] <targetx> tritium, on every ubuntu I use I do sudo passwd root as the first thing
[09:40] <targetx> tritium, the sudo thing is total crap imho
[09:40] <gnomefreak> farruinn, i did and omg it looks like what hes trying to do depends on a bunch of files he dont have
[09:40] <GNeRaL> Revellion: for dreamweaver
[09:40] <xfelon> inetd or standalone?
[09:41] <targetx> corincole, chmod = change mode and +x means executable
[09:41] <hotzenplotz> mh.. think i will give ubuntu a try and install it tonight :)
[09:41] <tritium> targetx, you're entitled to your opinion ;)
[09:41] <dducko> targetx, it is actually quite nice
[09:41] <targetx> corincole, so you give the shell permission to execute it
[09:41] <targetx> dducko, sorry, I don't like it and I never will
[09:41] <gnomefreak> but i dont wanna be the one to say spend next 10hrd downloading those packages
[09:41] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:41] <xfelon> inetd or standalone?
[09:41] <xfelon> which is better?
[09:41] <Revellion> GNeRaL: what do you need Dreamweaver for?
[09:41] <budluva> xfelon standalone is ok
[09:41] <targetx> dducko, I can handle the root permission just fine.. sudo is for 'less experienced' (aka noobs) :D
[09:41] <xfelon> k
[09:41] <corincole> ok, im doing it
[09:41] <corincole> ;)
[09:41] <P8ntKid> I have mplayer installed and the firefox plugin installed. But i dont know how to make firefox use mplayer to play video files. Right now its trying to use totem :(
[09:41] <targetx> corincole, tell me when youre done
[09:41] <corincole> will do
[09:41] <dducko> *chuckles*
[09:41] <targetx> P8ntKid, search for something called mozplugger
[09:41] <bmk789> anyone have experience with WLAN in ubuntu?
[09:41] <budluva> xfelon when in doubt hit enter, the default option dpkg uses is usually the best when installing applications
[09:41] <GNeRaL> for creating an image. gimp is very different for me
[09:42] <xfelon> sudo gedit /ect/shells
[09:42] <xfelon> oops
[09:42] <xfelon> k
[09:42] <Mabus06> does anyone know how to resolve problem with my computer freezing at hotplug whenever geforce is used? it will freeze if I install fresh with geforce, of if i install using my onboard video and then install nvidia drivers.
[09:42] <bluefrog-10> no
[09:42] <farruinn> targetx: no entirely true
[09:42] <targetx> lol
[09:42] <targetx> farruinn, what are you responding to ?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, is the gforce ur onboard card?
[09:42] <bluefrog-10> bmk789, what's the pb?
[09:42] <jonny_> is it possible to install ubuntu on a CD-R as a removable CD, and boot straight off of that? In other words, can you make a live CD out with the breezy install CD?
[09:42] <farruinn> targetx: sudo useful for only inexperienced users
[09:42] <Mabus06> gnomefreak my geforce is PCI, the onboard is some intel crap
[09:42] <bmk789> i want to setup my wireless in ubuntu
[09:42] <targetx> farruinn, do you agree or disagree with that ? :)
[09:42] <budluva> jonny_ why not download the livecd?
[09:43] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, u have to disable your onboard card first
[09:43] <Xirdneh> Question... i have managed to install Kubuntu and then rebooted and everything was going OK... so i shut down the computer last night i turn it on again today and surprice x will not start so i typed startx and i got into GNOME but the thing is that i can no longer log into KDE... and i have to type startx every time I boot... any ideas?... maybe i need to uninstal GNome?
[09:43] <bluefrog-10> bmk789, is your card recognised?
[09:43] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, your bios should have a place
[09:43] <farruinn> targetx: I disagree, although the root/sudo issue has been hashed over here enough I don't feel like arguing
[09:43] <bmk789> yes, but no networks found
[09:43] <jonny_> im just curious ( pls excuse my spelling, im only 12)
[09:43] <Mabus06> gnomefreak: I tried that... changed preferences in bios to geforce. freezes at hotplug
[09:43] <budluva> Xirdneh dpkg-reconfigure gmd xdm or kdm, whatever manager you use
[09:43] <bluefrog-10> bmk789, do u have an access point?
[09:43] <xfelon> cant setup ftp server
[09:43] <budluva> Xirdneh ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:43] <bmk789> ya
[09:43] <targetx> farruinn, oke :) either way, it's only my opinion that matters for my boxes.. Thats the beauty of linux.. freedom of choice
[09:43] <corincole> targetx, its installed...
[09:43] <budluva> xfelon why?
[09:44] <farruinn> targetx: that I *wholeheartedly* agree with :)
[09:44] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, it freezes for a min or like forever?
[09:44] <targetx> corincole, well done! now exit 'root mode'
[09:44] <Xirdneh> budluva... well i reinstall all the System with the CD and then install the meta package of Kubuntu
[09:44] <corincole> ok
[09:44] <targetx> farruinn, good!
[09:44] <budluva> Xirdneh try in a console, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[09:44] <signius> I have experienced one problem with running kismet as sudo as apposed to doing sudu su - then starting kisemt
[09:44] <corincole> then?
[09:44] <xfelon> because it doesnt make sens
[09:44] <targetx> corincole, type 'et' to start the damn game :D
[09:44] <xfelon> e
[09:44] <bluefrog-10> bmk789, move to #wlan
[09:44] <Xirdneh> budluva... thanx a lot man let me try
[09:44] <signius> if you dont do the latter it crashes after about 10 mins
[09:44] <xfelon> ./bin/false goes where?
[09:44] <dell500> does the 5th gen ipod work in ubuntu?
[09:44] <budluva> Xirdneh k
[09:45] <Mabus06> gnomefreak: never got past that part using the geforce. I've waited up to half an hour
[09:45] <gnomefreak> jonny: what were you wondering
[09:45] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, it works with the onboard card?
[09:45] <mannyman> why does "change password" in "About Me" go into a loop?
[09:45] <Mabus06> gnomefreak: linux works perfectly fine with onboard, windows works perfectly fine with my geforce
[09:46] <jonny_> is it possible to install ubuntu on a CD-R as a removable CD, and boot straight off of that? In other words, can you make a live CD out with the breezy install CD? gnomefreak
[09:46] <Amaranth> no
[09:46] <budluva> jonny_ download the livecd
[09:46] <gnomefreak> Mabus06,  you may need to find and manully install driver for that video card
[09:46] <targetx> jonny_, no
[09:46] <signius> jonny why dont you just you download the already made ubuntu live cd ?
[09:46] <jonny_> ok, so now that iv found that out...
[09:46] <Ropechoborra> Seveas r u there??
[09:46] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help me?
[09:47] <gnomefreak> jonny: no you need to download and burn the live cd download
[09:47] <jonny_> ...im having some serious dificulties with breezy
[09:47] <P8ntKid> I have mplayer installed and the firefox plugin installed. But i dont know how to make firefox use mplayer to play video files. Right now its trying to use totem :(
[09:47] <targetx> P8ntKid, still about the mplayer / mozilla thing ??
[09:47] <budluva> jonny_ i told you to download the livecd like 15 minutes ago
[09:47] <dell500> does it not work in linux?
[09:47] <targetx> P8ntKid, don't you read my comments or what? I told you 3 times now that you need mozplugger
[09:47] <gnomefreak> !mplayer
[09:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:47] <targetx> !mozplug
[09:47] <ubotu> targetx: No idea
[09:47] <targetx> crapbot :D
[09:47] <crimsun> occy: sec
[09:47] <Myrtti> !mozplugger
[09:47] <ubotu> Myrtti: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:47] <gnomefreak> lol targetx
[09:47] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:47] <targetx> rofl Ubotu hehehe
[09:47] <Mabus06> gnomefreak: tried installing using onboard, running ubuntu, downloading drivers with synaptic (also tried downloading from nvidia site), both options still freeze at hotplug
[09:47] <gnomefreak> guys its mplayer
[09:47] <targetx> 'do they come in packets of five' rofl
[09:48] <Seveas> Ropechoborra, ?
[09:48] <jonny_> I cant get rid of kubuntu-desktop or edubuntu-desktop, KDE is set to default and I dont know how to change GNOME back
[09:49] <Ropechoborra> Seveas ive found the CD with the drivers for my modem... but i dont know wich is the one i need... :(
[09:49] <enyc> jonn: whath do you mean EXACTLFY by ['I cant get rid of'[...] ]  ??
[09:49] <gnomefreak> jonny_, log out and in the log in screen find sessions and choose gnome than it will ask you if you want it default click make default
[09:49] <targetx> jonny: apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop edubuntu-desktop && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <Ropechoborra> Got 3 firs folders (PCtel, azalia, ICH6)
[09:49] <corincole> yeah, didnt work
[09:49] <jonny_> gnomefreak the problem is, it does not ask me
[09:49] <gnomefreak> jonny_, sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <corincole> targetx, laptop froze
[09:49] <targetx> corincole, awww.. that sucks..
[09:49] <enyc> Rope: use 'lspci' lo hopefolly see your modem listed
[09:49] <targetx> corincole, then I don't think you have the correct GLX driver installed hehe
[09:50] <corincole> ok
[09:50] <gnomefreak> same command with edubuntu-desktop
[09:50] <corincole> back to Will & Grace lol
[09:50] <budluva> Xirdneh did it work?
[09:50] <targetx> corincole, lol
[09:50] <targetx> corincole, too bad.. I feel like playing ET but don't want to play it alone
[09:50] <Ropechoborra> enyc how is that?
[09:51] <Mabus06> gnomefreak: out of ideas for me?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, there was  asite im looking for about those drivers and i cant find it
[09:51] <P8ntKid> Arg. The videos i want to play in firefox open in totem but i want them to open in mplayer or xine. How do i do this?
[09:51] <UnL0cK> i go "sudo make install check_old", y, and it dont remove! why?
[09:51] <deus> Is the packages on apt-get really that old?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> Seveas, do you happen to have the wiki on the nvdia drivers?
[09:51] <deus> It seems that the only version of scummvm is a year old
[09:51] <corincole> sorry targetx
[09:52] <Mabus06> gnomefreak: my problem seems to be shared by other people who have posted on several different forums in frustration, nobody seems to get their problem resolved
[09:52] <Seveas> !nvidia
[09:52] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:52] <hawking> how can i unzip a zip file?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> !tell P8ntKid  about mplayer
[09:52] <deus> hawking: unzip
[09:52] <Mabus06> read and tried that, gnomefreak
[09:52] <targetx> corincole, no problem!
[09:52] <dell500> does anyone know if the 5th gen ipod works on ubuntu?
[09:52] <UnL0cK> i go "sudo make check_old", y, and it dont remove! why?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, than im not sure i see the problem everywhere but i never used those drivers/cards
[09:52] <hawking> deus: thx
[09:53] <jonny_> can you remove kubuntu-desktop in kubuntu-desktop?
[09:53] <blackvd> installed a slave drive with ubuntu, then formated,edited fstab, but when I reboot I get grub error 15, how do I fix grub?
[09:53] <targetx> wow.. I just found this neat wallpaper :D
[09:53] <hawking> !aspen Hacking_Truths--What_They_Don't_Teach_In_Manuals!!
[09:53] <ubotu> hawking: What?
[09:53] <blackvd> tried reinstalling it
[09:53] <hawking> oops
[09:53] <gnomefreak> jonny_,  i dont know but i wouldnt just in case
[09:53] <jonny_> ok
[09:53] <targetx> corincole, you might like it too: http://www.ophiuchus.org/miniatures/wallpapers/linux/GNOME-Snowcurve.png
[09:53] <gnomefreak> jonny_, did it work for the edubuntu?
[09:54] <hotzenplotz> anybody in here that has experience in gettin a terratec cingergy 1200-s to work correctly under ubuntu?
[09:54] <corincole> wow targetx, ive always needed a wallpaper for my 1x1x1 screen!
[09:54] <corincole> :o
[09:54] <P8ntKid> gnomefreak: That did help me. I have dont all that allready.
[09:54] <targetx> wehe
[09:56] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid, did you try the mozplugger thing?
[09:56] <P8ntKid> gnomefreak: I have it. But i dont know how to use it and what to do with it.
[09:58] <Ropechoborra> What is Win9x (in drivers for modem)
[09:58] <blackvd> man I was having the same prob with mozilla and totem
[09:58] <targetx> Ropechoborra, Windows95 and windows 98
[09:58] <blackvd> finally I just deleted totem
[09:58] <blackvd> now it uses mplayer
[09:58] <davro> setting up bluetooth using pand, how can i setup a passkey.
[09:58] <blackvd> but my mplayer plugin messes up 80% of the time
[09:59] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid, go into edit than preff. go to the downloads button and at bottom youll see plug ins click it it will list yours than see if the mozplugger is enabled
[09:59] <targetx> davro, man pand ?
[09:59] <Ropechoborra> targetx So.. i got Win9x, Win2K_XP, WinME, NT4 and WHQL... Does anyone works for linux?
[09:59] <targetx> Ropechoborra, nope
[09:59] <targetx> Ropechoborra, what are you trying to install ?
[09:59] <Ropechoborra> My modem :(
[09:59] <Ropechoborra> So i cant with this one?????? :((((((((
[09:59] <targetx> Ropechoborra, is it a winmodem or a full modem ?
[09:59] <targetx> Ropechoborra, let's keep this profesional
[09:59] <Ropechoborra> Dont know... is integrated in my PC Chips mother
[10:00] <dell500> how do  you unmount an ipod?
[10:00] <targetx> Ropechoborra, I don't know too much about modems.. but I think someone else in here will be able to help you
[10:00] <P8ntKid> gnomefreak: I dont see mozpluggin. My problem is that wmv files are trying to be played in totem and not mplayer how i want.
[10:00] <davro> targetx: did check the man page nothing about setting a passkey, of no config found in /etc/pand
[10:00] <blackvd> umount /mnt/ipod?
[10:00] <targetx> blackvd, rofl!
[10:00] <dell500> nope
[10:00] <dell500> lol
[10:01] <targetx> davro, sorry I don't know about it, check google maybe..
[10:01] <jonny> URGG!! kubuntu-desktop WILL NOT uninstall!
[10:01] <targetx> jonny: not even from rescue mode ?
[10:01] <davro> right o
[10:01] <Ropechoborra> dell500 it isnt unmount but "umount" check that word
[10:01] <dell500> i know
[10:01] <Ropechoborra> Ok :)
[10:01] <dell500> it's on some usb device, i'm not sure which oone though
[10:01] <targetx> dell500, type 'mount' to see whats mounted and where it is mounted
[10:01] <dell500> is there a way to figure it out
[10:01] <dell500> k
[10:01] <jonny> how do you get into rescue mode?
[10:01] <targetx> dell500, as long as mount doesn't show that it's mounted, you can just unplug it
[10:02] <targetx> jonny, I don't know, I'm new to ubuntu so you might need to ask a Ubuntu profesionall. But I'm sure Ubuntu has a resque mode just like any other distro
[10:02] <dell500> well the pod says to not disc
[10:02] <gnomefreak> jonny,  what did you type to get rid of it?
[10:02] <Ropechoborra> targetx do you know whats the diference between pctel, Azalia and ICH6 ?
[10:02] <mrchicago> hello
[10:02] <xArv3nx> Hello.
[10:02] <xArv3nx> CAN ANYONE help me?
[10:02] <Ghost_Warr1or> hi
[10:03] <targetx> Ropechoborra, not the slightest idea, sorry
[10:03] <targetx> xArv3nx, whats up
[10:03] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[10:03] <xArv3nx> Kubuntu keeps freezing, I tried to ask in #kubuntu, but they said to come here. :(
[10:03] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:03] <jonny> sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop , gnomefreak
[10:03] <xArv3nx> Since it sounds more like a system issue.
[10:03] <P8ntKid> gnomefreak: I dont see mozpluggin. My problem is that wmv files are trying to be played in totem and not mplayer how i want.
[10:03] <targetx> lol.. you have kubuntu and #kubuntu tells you to come to #ubuntu ?
[10:03] <P8ntKid> gnomefreak: Opps
[10:03] <mrchicago> the new distro out yet
[10:03] <xArv3nx> Yes. o.O
[10:03] <targetx> hehe
[10:03] <xArv3nx> And it only happens WITH Kubuntu.
[10:03] <targetx> xArv3nx, when does it freeze ?
[10:03] <xArv3nx> And I told them that.
[10:03] <xArv3nx> Either near when i start it up, or when I start Konqueror.
[10:04] <targetx> xArv3nx, then you just got ripped of lol :) I'd suggest going back to #kubuntu then
[10:04] <xArv3nx> Or something around there.
[10:04] <Mabus06> 
[10:04] <Mabus06> Anyone around here that thinks they could solve my problem getting my geforce FX 5500 to work with ubuntu? It freezes at hotplug subsystem whether I fresh install using the geforce, or whether I install using the onboard video, install nvidia drivers, and then try to boot using the geforce.
[10:04] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid, i saw what you said and if i used mozplugger i might could help more but i dont use my system for anything other than work and surfing
[10:04] <targetx> xArv3nx, it looks like a KDE problem to me, so #kubuntu is your best bet
[10:04] <iPrank> sup?
[10:04] <targetx> xArv3nx, be polite, and I'm sure someone will help you
[10:04] <xArv3nx> BRB guys.
[10:04] <xArv3nx> I was. ;S
[10:04] <xArv3nx> BRB.
[10:04] <blackvd> so anyone know how I can fix grub after I format my slave drive?
[10:04] <gnomefreak> jonny,  what is it saying after you run that command?
[10:04] <blackvd> keep getting a lousy 'error 15'
[10:04] <targetx> blackvd, I still don't see how formatting a secondary hard disk can mess your grub
[10:05] <enyc> blac: where is the grub loader installed [?] 
[10:05] <targetx> my best bet is that the device nodes changed, OR that you're trying to boot from the new hdd instead of the GRUB hdd
[10:05] <blackvd> maybe because I installed ubuntu on my slave
[10:05] <targetx> blackvd, ooh lol.. that changes it quite a bit
[10:05] <gnomefreak> blackvd, that could do it if you have a blank master
[10:05] <targetx> blackvd, change your HD to boot from in your bios from HD0 to HD1
[10:05] <blackvd> yea
[10:06] <blackvd> ah
[10:06] <blackvd> duh
[10:06] <blackvd> ok brb
[10:06] <jonny> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3752
[10:06] <ekimus> any recommendations on a pim app that can sync with palm (lifedrives). just adresses, tasks and stuff
[10:06] <enyc> blac: aaah ... grub lads from MBR and finds the grub wenu.lst  etc. from the /boot [or /]  partition, in short
[10:06] <targetx> ekimus, I've heard there are quite a few of those in the repositories
[10:06] <blackvd> wait a minute
[10:06] <enyc> err menu.lst
[10:06] <gnomefreak> jonny,  kubuntu is no longer on your system
[10:06] <enyc> err menu.list even
[10:07] <blackvd> my master has ubuntu wiht everything else
[10:07] <Mabus06> on the howto on nvidia, it says "*** *NOTE* There are now two nvidia binary drivers available. If you use the older TNT, TNT2, TNT Ultra, GeForce, and GeForce2 chipsets, install the legacy packages: "
[10:07] <blackvd> all I want my slave to be is extra space
[10:07] <Mabus06> Would Geforce FX 5500 be legacy or not?
[10:07] <ekimus> targetx: yes but a working one would be nice, by now i only found korganizer but that's a bit to much for me
[10:07] <targetx> ekimus, ok let me check for ya
[10:07] <jonny> but do you have to restart gnomefreak ?
[10:07] <blackvd> so I put it in /opt2
[10:07] <gnomefreak> jonny,  why do you think its still there?
[10:08] <iPrank> i still cant get my mp3s to play
[10:08] <RiX> so.... how do i do a search with apt?
[10:08] <jonny> because when I log out, the kubuntu screen comes up, y'know, asking you for username and password, gnomefreak
[10:08] <RiX> for a package name?
[10:08] <targetx> ekimus, gnome-pilot ?
[10:09] <Burnznet> hello
[10:09] <JazzCrazed> hi all
[10:09] <gnomefreak> jonny,  try restarting
[10:09] <enyc> iPrank: see  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:09] <puff> Hm, firefox 1.0.7 is still the latest version in ubuntu apt sources... any idea when a more recent version will be available?
[10:09] <jonny> ok, one moment
[10:09] <xArv3nx> OK um.
[10:09] <xArv3nx> No ones in there anymore. :(
[10:09] <xArv3nx> No ones responding.
[10:09] <Mabus06> nvidia howto says this: *** *NOTE* There are now two nvidia binary drivers available. If you use the older TNT, TNT2, TNT Ultra, GeForce, and GeForce2 chipsets, install the legacy packages:
[10:09] <P8ntKid> gnomefreak: Ok, i got it to use mplayer instead of totem. But now. It will load to 100 percent and then not play :(
[10:09] <xArv3nx> So yeah I'm gonna need help here. :(
[10:09] <ekimus> targetx: to which app does gnome-pilot sync? because i only found an applet
[10:09] <Mabus06> is geforce FX 5500 legacy or not?
[10:09] <Sanne> Mabus06: Look for 'Appendix A' in ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7676/README.txt
[10:09] <targetx> ekimus, I dont know
[10:10] <enyc> puff: thats the latest mozilla-stable vesion
[10:10] <bluefrog-10> Mabus06, yes
[10:10] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid,  no errors?
[10:10] <bluefrog-10> Mabus06, working on all my pcs
[10:10] <xArv3nx> Kubuntu keeps freezing. Can anyone help me?
[10:10] <P8ntKid> gnomefreak: Nope, it just doesnt play.
[10:10] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid,  do you have sound working for everything else?
[10:10] <bluefrog-10> Mabus06, don't use nvidia legacy
[10:11] <Mabus06> you said yes, then no?
[10:11] <kopl> I have a wifi card, but I don't know how to get to work on Ubuntu.  Can somebody give me some advice?
[10:11] <gnomefreak> xArv3nx, does gnome do it too?
[10:11] <Mabus06> and when I don't use legacy, it is freezing at hotplug
[10:11] <P8ntKid> gnomefreak: What you mean?
[10:11] <bluefrog-10> Mabus06, change board
[10:11] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid,  do you have sound for anything else you need sound for?
[10:11] <Sanne> Mabus06: read the text from my link, search for your card.
[10:11] <targetx> Seveas, you here ?
[10:11] <Mabus06> Sanne: okay, thanks
[10:12] <Mabus06> Most people give me the same link from ubotu, but this I have not seen so hopefully it may help
[10:12] <xArv3nx> gnomefreak, no.
[10:12] <targetx> I have installed a faulty coppy of gksu, I need this for ubuntu-desktop though. How can I like 'upgrade' this version to the old version I had (old package is still on hdd)
[10:12] <ali4728> Help, What is the ssh-agent that I cant utilize on my ubuntu box? Thanks...
[10:12] <xArv3nx> gnomefreak, sorry, was reading something. ;)
[10:12] <Sanne> Mabus06: ah, no it's the Nvidia readme of their latest driver
[10:12] <iPrank> so is there  no why my mp3s will work?
[10:12] <targetx> iPrank, apt-get install gstreamer-media*
[10:12] <gnomefreak> xArv3nx, if it only happens in kubuntu they should beable to help more than us
[10:12] <Mabus06> Sanne: most people refer me to !nvidia, which does not seem to solve my problem
[10:12] <mips> Revellion: I came right with the Logitech mouse resolution from this link-   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=Install+script
[10:13] <xArv3nx> Well..
[10:13] <xArv3nx> No one answers or anything. :(
[10:13] <Mabus06> Sanne: and everyone else suggets I fresh install with the geforce, same problem
[10:13] <xArv3nx> Last time I went there they couldn't figure out the problem anyways. :(
[10:13] <Sanne> Mabus06: I find your card in the supported section, but please look for yourself to verify.
[10:13] <mips> Is Andi5 still around ?
[10:13] <xArv3nx> Maybe I should just install Mepis?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> xArv3nx, i know ive tried to get help there b4
[10:13] <flocrypt> hello and help please :-) --- cm8738--- is listed under lspci but /poc/asound/cards reads --- no cards --- anzone familiar with this? ubuntu 5.10
[10:13] <gnomefreak> noooooooooooo
[10:13] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:13] <jonny> gnomefreak , still didnt work!
[10:13] <xArv3nx> :(
[10:13] <xArv3nx> I know.
[10:13] <targetx> I'll be right back
[10:13] <gnomefreak> xArv3nx, are you running ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:13] <bluefrog-10> Mabus06, change board
[10:13] <xArv3nx> Kubuntu.
[10:14] <xArv3nx> I like Kubuntu.
[10:14] <Mabus06> bluefoxicy: change board?
[10:14] <bluefrog-10> yes
[10:14] <racookier> hi
[10:14] <Mabus06> as in motherboard?
[10:14] <gnomefreak> jonny,  your log in screen is kubuntu right?
[10:14] <corincole> is there any way to change the boot-up screens of ubuntu?
[10:14] <corincole> :)
[10:14] <jonny> yessir um...mam
[10:14] <bluefrog-10> Mabus06, my FX5500 works on all my 4 pcs, different board and proc..
[10:14] <Mabus06> I don't have a "spare" motherboard lying around, and my P4P800MX is great.
[10:14] <gnomefreak> jonny,  if you locate sessions click on it in your log in screen and tell me what desktops are there
[10:15] <xArv3nx> :(
[10:15] <P8ntKid> gnomefreak: If i only have mozplugger do i still need the mplayer codecs?
[10:15] <Mabus06> my fx5500 works fine using that board and windows though?
[10:15] <targetx> yes
[10:15] <jonny> only default
[10:15] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid,  more than likely yes
[10:15] <corincole> anyone?
[10:15] <bluefrog-10> Mabus06, sry can't help.
[10:15] <flocrypt> hello everzone, can anyone help me fix a small problem?
[10:15] <xArv3nx> i wubberz kubuntu so much but it freezes SO much.
[10:15] <targetx> P8ntKid, mozplug is only a link between firefox and mplayer. You still need mplayer to work fully
[10:15] <targetx> corincole, whats up mate
[10:15] <lsuactiafner> any channels where i can ask for help with quake4? doom3 works great but q4 complains about libSDL
[10:15] <jonny> only default gnomefreak
[10:15] <corincole> can i change the boot-up theme?
[10:15] <corincole> so its not brown lol
[10:15] <Mabus06> Sanne: it is listed there under supported cards
[10:16] <targetx> most certainly yes, but I don't know how
[10:16] <corincole> i dont like the colour of crap
[10:16] <corincole> :P
[10:16] <P8ntKid> targetx: Should i install moz plugger first or after the mplayer plugins?
[10:16] <targetx> doesn't google know it ?
[10:16] <corincole> ok
[10:16] <corincole> anyone know how?
[10:16] <targetx> P8ntKid, doesn't matter
[10:16] <gnomefreak> jonny,  go to system than adminastration and see you u have login screen setup
[10:16] <targetx> !google change bootsplash ubuntu
[10:16] <ubotu> targetx: Wish i knew
[10:16] <lsuactiafner> brown is the new neon pink'
[10:16] <corincole> lol
[10:16] <Mabus06> with "0x0326" next to it, sanne
[10:16] <targetx> bah no bot in here that picks up !google ?
[10:16] <corincole> pink isnt quite so shitty, in my oppinion
[10:16] <flocrypt> hello world out there.
[10:16] <targetx> hehe
[10:16] <frank_b> can anyone tell me what's the difference between the "fglrx" driver and the ati proprietary driver you can download from the site?
[10:16] <tritium> corincole, please don't use foul language here
[10:16] <Sanne> Mabus06: yeah, I see that too
[10:17] <xArv3nx> Can anyone help me? Kubuntu keeps freezing. I went to the Kubuntu channel but they didn't help any. :(
[10:17] <corincole> it wasnt foul language, "shit" is a biological, natural item...  and "shitty" descirbes its colour
[10:17] <corincole> :)
[10:17] <targetx> gotcha! :P
[10:17] <corincole> it wasnt used as a swear word lol
[10:17] <jesse_> xArv3nx: whats the problem?
[10:17] <tritium> corincole, cut it out please
[10:17] <corincole> ok
[10:17] <corincole> sorry
[10:17] <corincole> :'(
[10:17] <xArv3nx> jesse, ..kubuntu keeps freezing. o.O
[10:17] <tritium> frank_b, use the ubuntu package so it remains under package management
[10:17] <targetx> art.gnome.org has some interesting new submissions
[10:17] <jesse_> xArv3nx: on what step? what program?
[10:18] <jesse_> xArv3nx: any detail helps
[10:18] <jonny> corincole: there are 12-year-olds hear
[10:18] <jonny> here*
[10:18] <xArv3nx> jesse, at random times usually, maybe when I'mr unning a program or running Konqueror.
[10:18] <kopl>   I have a wifi card, but I don't know how to get it to work on Ubuntu.  How would do I get ti to work?
[10:18] <xArv3nx> I'm 13. ;)
[10:18] <flocrypt> hi everyone, still hoping for someone to help me out
[10:18] <kingright> anyone have a G-mail acct?
[10:18] <xArv3nx> ME!
[10:18] <xArv3nx> ;)
[10:18] <Mabus06> 12 year olds can install linux? I've been having troubles myself... :(
[10:18] <gnomefreak> targetx, jonny has to have gnomeart installed first or he cant change his login screen unless theres another way that i dont know about
[10:18] <racookier> ok let's see.... grphic adapter Intel 82845G, Monitor Samsung 551v, First instal ubuntu, and gnome only recognize 640 x 480 resolution, then i come here and go there, and finally download the i810 driver from intel.com, Now gnome recognize 640x480 and 800x600 (BUT when in 800x600 the screen flashes) who know how to add ine resolution to x (1024x768@48.4kHz) or how to make recognize the resolutions.
[10:18] <xArv3nx> Hey.
[10:18] <gnomefreak> kingright, i have a few of them
[10:18] <frank_b> tritium: ok. but what's the difference between the two? is the fglrx a free driver? are they the same but just different versions?
[10:18] <Mabus06> !wifi
[10:18] <ubotu> methinks wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:18] <jesse_> xArv3nx: is it a hang, or a complete freeze? are you moving files or doing something memory intensive?
[10:18] <xArv3nx> I've been messing wtih linux since I was like 11 1/2
[10:19] <xArv3nx> jesse, I don't think so. o.O
[10:19] <Mabus06> kingright: see above
[10:19] <tritium> frank_b, they're the same, except for the nice packaging of the .deb
[10:19] <xArv3nx> jesse, I think its a hang ro soemthing, because I can still move my mouse.
[10:19] <bluefrog-10> kopl, move to wlan
[10:19] <Mabus06> errr kopl see above, i mean
[10:19] <kingright> do u know what the y do i need wifi?
[10:19] <xArv3nx> jesse, and sometimes stuff on the screen turns different colors.
[10:19] <kopl> Ubotu, Thanks
[10:19] <ubotu> kopl: no problem
[10:19] <ali4728> Help, What is the ssh-agent that I cant utilize on my ubuntu box? Thanks...
[10:19] <jesse_> xArv3nx: have you ran any memory/hardware testing apps?
[10:19] <jonny> gnomefreak: The login screen (setup) does not come up, it loads then does not open
[10:19] <targetx> gnomefreak, gdm-setup or something
[10:19] <xArv3nx> jesse, nope.
[10:19] <xArv3nx> jesse, where can I do that at?
[10:19] <kingright> what is the pop3 serv for gmail?
[10:20] <xArv3nx> I don't remember. :(
[10:20] <Mabus06> Ubotu, thanks
[10:20] <ubotu> de nada, Mabus06
[10:20] <xArv3nx> It said it at the help section though.
[10:20] <Mabus06> hee hee
[10:20] <Mabus06> Ubotu, thanks for nothing
[10:20] <ubotu> Mabus06: bitte
[10:20] <frank_b> tritium: so the fglrx one it's just the proprietary driver packaged, is that it?
[10:20] <gnomefreak> jonny,  does it ask you for password?
[10:20] <kingright> lol
[10:20] <jonny> yup
[10:20] <puff> Okay, so now it turns out my fierfox is weirdly fucked...e ven after I removed all of the extensions, trying to start it from the menu bar, or trying to start it with just /usr/bin/firefox<enter>, fails silently.
[10:20] <jonny> gnomefreak: yup
[10:20] <tritium> frank_b, yes, it's a binary-only driver
[10:20] <jesse_> xArv3nx: there is a memtest option if you go to the grub menu on boot
[10:20] <puff> OWVER, starting it with any command-line flag, even just firefox -verbose, it starts fine.
[10:20] <xArv3nx> Alright.
[10:20] <jesse_> xArv3nx: sounds like it could also be video card
[10:20] <grodius> Can someone help me set up my soundcard?
[10:20] <puff> HOWEVER.
[10:20] <Mabus06> puff: language
[10:20] <xArv3nx> I have a 6600 GT
[10:20] <xArv3nx> by PNY
[10:20] <gnomefreak> jonny,  enter the password than a screen with like 6 tabs should come up
[10:21] <jonny> it does not
[10:21] <jesse_> xArv3nx: dont know, since it doesnt happen with a specific set of criteria its hard to diagnose
[10:21] <frank_b> tritium: ah. got it. thank you very much. :)
[10:21] <puff> Mabus06: My apologies, didn't realized the standards of this group.
[10:21] <kingright> what is the pop3 serv for GMAIL?
[10:21] <dax_> hmm, is root's username just "root"?
[10:21] <puff> Er, channel.
[10:21] <gnomefreak> pop.gmail.com
[10:21] <targetx> xArv3nx, don't you just have bad RAM ?
[10:21] <xArv3nx> jesse, so maybe I should try switching back to ym 5700?
[10:21] <jonny> gnomefreak: it does not
[10:21] <jesse_> xArv3nx: i recommend some hardware testing
[10:21] <tritium> frank_b, :)
[10:21] <Mabus06> puff: I got lynched for saying the c-synonym of poo
[10:21] <xArv3nx> OK, so just he memory test?
[10:21] <jesse_> xArv3nx: i would try that maybe, if its not too difficult
[10:21] <gnomefreak> jonny,  open synaptic and search for gnomeart
[10:21] <jonny> ok
[10:21] <targetx> xArv3nx, yep
[10:21] <puff> Mabus06: I appreciate the heads-up.
[10:21] <jesse_> xArv3nx: just be methodical, test one thing at a time
[10:22] <dax_> hmm, is root's username just "root"?
[10:22] <max> Hey -- I've just installed Ubtunu.
[10:22] <frank_b> bye tritium , all
[10:22] <jesse_> try a live cd maybe, see if it does the same thing
[10:22] <xArv3nx> Alright.
[10:22] <xArv3nx> I'll try it.
[10:22] <jesse_> ok, good luck!
[10:22] <max> Can someone help me out?
[10:22] <xArv3nx> OK, thanks.
[10:22] <rikva> any idead why sudo crashes all the time?
[10:22] <nalioth> dax_: quit repeating. nobody is ignoring you.
[10:22] <xArv3nx> If it doesn't work I'm coming back. xD
[10:22] <xArv3nx> C'ya.
[10:22] <jesse_> ill be here
[10:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dax_ about root
[10:22] <jesse_> :
[10:22] <grodius> Can someone help me set up my soundcard?
[10:22] <jesse_> go ahead max
[10:22] <jonny> too many problems with Ubuntu! i might just go back to fedora
[10:22] <Mabus06> grodius: I probably can't help, but if you want anyone else to you shoudl be specific
[10:23] <max> OK. I'm very new to using the OS. I want to install Ruby On Rails.
[10:23] <gnomefreak> kingright,  incomming is pop.gmail.coma nd outgoing is smtp.gmail.com and you might want to ask on either the channel for your mailclient or go to your help menu in gmail there is a section for outlook it is same set up you have to change the server ports
[10:23] <jesse_> jonny: running awayis not the answer
[10:23] <dax_> im fairly new to linux, now i would like to sign in with root
[10:23] <flocrypt> hi max I am having the same problem...
[10:23] <max> Can I just type apt-get install rails?
[10:23] <dax_> so i could conf ssh etc
[10:23] <racookier> ok let's see.... grphic adapter Intel 82845G, Monitor Samsung 551v, First instal ubuntu, and gnome only recognize 640 x 480 resolution, then i come here and go there, and finally download the i810 driver from intel.com, Now gnome recognize 640x480 and 800x600 (BUT when in 800x600 the screen flashes) who know how to add ine resolution to x (1024x768@48.4kHz) or how to make recognize the resolutions.
[10:23] <flocrypt> well that doesn t help
[10:23] <gnomefreak> jonny, fedora has issues of its own
[10:23] <Mabus06> da: either su or sudo
[10:23] <jonny> gnomefreak: not as many
[10:23] <kingright> well that is all i need cuz i no every thing else
[10:23] <jesse_> max: google?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> su doesnt work in ubuntu atleast not for me
[10:24] <dax_> ok ty
[10:24] <max> Ha. I thought I could just get the apps I wanted with apt-get...
[10:24] <gnomefreak> jonny,  maybe different things like yum doent like to be woken up
[10:24] <jonny> gnomefreak: nothing comes up with a search for gnomeart
[10:24] <max> Obviously not!
[10:24] <jesse_> max: did you try apt-get?
[10:24] <puff> So, I had to jump through a lot of hoops to get all of the drivers & etc installed for firefox.  Is there any way I can reinstall firefox without having to jump through all those hoops again?  Also maybe retain my bookmarks, history, etc?
[10:24] <flocrypt> grodius: hi, I am having sound trouble also...
[10:24] <grodius> When using my soundcard, I dont get sound, but my onboard sound works fine- can someone help me configure linux to recognize my soundcard
[10:24] <gnomefreak> jonny search for gnome and find program caled gnome art
[10:24] <jesse_> max: a synaptic search?
[10:24] <jonny> ok
[10:24] <max> What is a synaptic search?
[10:24] <cdebrkr> test
[10:24] <kingright> how do i get  Thunderbird?
[10:24] <cdbrk> hi
[10:24] <Mabus06> grodius: my only advice to you is to check your bios settings, make sure onboard is disabled
[10:25] <apokryphos> kingright: fire up synaptic and install, just like any other package.
[10:25] <gnomefreak> max, open synaptic and click search than type what you r looking for
[10:25] <dax_> one more thing, what is the default root password? I dont remember defining it in installation.
[10:25] <racookier> max: open the synaptic package manager and search
[10:25] <kingright> no in term
[10:25] <flocrypt> no onboard sound on mine.
[10:25] <gnomefreak> kingright, syanptic search thunderbird
[10:25] <jesse_> max: System>Admin>Synaptic
[10:25] <apokryphos> kingright: eh?
[10:25] <puff> max: There is a ruby package in apt, but not a rails package.
[10:25] <jesse_> max: then search for what you want
[10:25] <jonny> gnomefreak: install it right?
[10:25] <kingright> in the shell
[10:25] <gnomefreak> yes jonny
[10:25] <gnomefreak> no kingright
[10:26] <max> Thanks Jesse. It's a bit like Yast then?
[10:26] <gnomefreak> kingright,  system>admin>synaptic
[10:26] <flocrypt> hi, is there a channel to help me with a soundcardproblem?
[10:26] <apokryphos> max: not really; yast is far more comrehensive
[10:26] <puff> max: At least not in the main ubuntu apt servers, nor in universe, nor in multiverse. Maybe some ruby folks have their own private apt packge of rails.
[10:26] <jesse_> max: even better ;)
[10:26] <kingright> oh ill do it the ez way for once
[10:26] <administrateur> bonjour qqun parle fr ??
[10:26] <cdbrk> when i run my application i get the error i pasted in #flood.  it seems my app looks for and couldnt find a lib file .so.0 when the file i actually copied to the local directory where im running my app.  what did i miss doing? thanks
[10:26] <gnomefreak> the easy way is apt-get but i dont remember what the name of it is for apt-get
[10:26] <puff> Hm.... it'd be nifty to have some sort of ad-hoc-friendly apt server network.
[10:26] <max> Thanks Jesse.
[10:27] <flocrypt> oui salut
[10:27] <cyrull> ui*
[10:27] <administrateur> bjour, je suis nouvo !! linux !!
[10:27] <max> I've got a nice long list of things I want on here, so this is probably going to be the easiest way to do it.
[10:27] <jesse_> max: you're welcome and good luck
[10:27] <apokryphos> !fr
[10:27] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[10:27] <max> I take it everything installs where it needs to go?
[10:27] <cyrull> yes good luck
[10:27] <administrateur> oki merci
[10:27] <jesse_> max: yep
[10:27] <puff> Or maybe just some sort of ubuntu/apt convention so that when people put up ubuntu-friendly apt packages, a google search will quickly/easily find them.
[10:27] <jesse_> max: and dependency resolution that is better IMHO
[10:27] <flocrypt> #ubuntu -de
[10:28] <gnomefreak> google finds everything :)
[10:28] <flocrypt> oups
[10:28] <jonny> gnomefreak: now what
[10:28] <kingright> i get this when i start SPM http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3753
[10:28] <paulius> hi
[10:28] <gnomefreak> now try to open it again jonny system>admin>login setup
[10:28] <dax_> is there a default root password? I dont recon defining it in installation.
[10:28] <gnomefreak> dax_, your user password
[10:28] <paulius> does anyone know how should I enable mail() function in php on ubuntu
[10:29] <dax_> didnt work :(
[10:29] <bill> dax, ubuntu does not have a default
[10:29] <bill> it is your regular passwd
[10:29] <jonny> gnomefreak: same problem, the fedora DVD is in my hand...
[10:29] <gnomefreak> su doesnt work try sudo
[10:29] <bill> you have to sudo
[10:29] <jesse_> dax_: you set it somewhere
[10:29] <dax_> maybe i have missed it in the installation.
[10:29] <gnomefreak> jonny: i dont think your using the right password than
[10:30] <jonny> it dosnt object it
[10:30] <max> dax, do sudo passwd root to set your root password.
[10:30] <xbillouthekid> re
[10:30] <jonny> gnomefreak: it dosnt object it
[10:30] <gnomefreak> ubuntu install never asks for root sudo uses you user name password and su doesnt work in ubuntu
[10:30] <kingright> i get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3753 when i start up Synaptic how do i fix it?
[10:30] <jesse_> gnomefreak is right
[10:31] <jesse_> i just always sudo passwd root after an install
[10:31] <gnomefreak> kingright,  in your sources list comment out the cdrom repo
[10:31] <jesse_> make it something crazy
[10:31] <xxMEL0Nxx> hi
[10:31] <jesse_> hello
[10:31] <kingright> so what do i do gnomefreak
[10:32] <Coburn> can i install package from my hardrive through synaptic????
[10:32] <gnomefreak> kingright,  are u useing breezy or hoary?
[10:32] <kingright> yes hoary
[10:32] <Mars> Someone running KDE window decoration CrystalGL on Breezy?
[10:32] <dooglus> does anyone know how to run Xnest?  I can get the window to open, but can't run anything inside it.
[10:32] <ago_> Hi
[10:32] <apokryphos> Coburn: use dpkg -i package.deb
[10:32] <Coburn> breezy
[10:32] <xxMEL0Nxx> I can't ping my other PC with ubuntu by their name, but I can ping it withi the ip, how can I fix it?
[10:32] <jonny> kingright: what is your adress? ill send you a breezy install
[10:32] <jonny> assuming ur in the US
[10:33] <racookier> ok let's see.... grphic adapter Intel 82845G, Monitor Samsung 551v, First instal ubuntu, and gnome only recognize 640 x 480 resolution, then i come here and go there, and finally download the i810 driver from intel.com, Now gnome recognize 640x480 and 800x600 (BUT when in 800x600 the screen flashes) who know how to add ine resolution to x (1024x768@48.4kHz) or how to make recognize the resolutions.
[10:33] <grodius> sorry I rebooted, did anyone want to help me with my sound problem?
[10:33] <ago_> I have a problem with my audio, several app report "no available audio device" unless I kill esd
[10:33] <kingright> i got some on the way to me ill have them in a month
[10:33] <apokryphos> !tell racookier about resolution
[10:33] <dooglus> if I try "startx -- Xnest :3" I see "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."
[10:33] <P8ntKid> gnomefreak: Yay! I finally got it to work. Look at this guide. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44560&highlight=mplayerplug-in+2.85
[10:33] <jonny> kingright: do u hav a cd burner?
[10:33] <racookier> and if i try to add the modelline (via xorgcfg) nothing happens
[10:33] <gnomefreak> kingright,  paste this in your terminal
[10:33] <gnomefreak> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
[10:34] <kingright> i have the iso file but i have a cyberdrv burn so i cant burn it
[10:34] <jonny> o...i c
[10:34] <bill> in windows you have the hosts file under /etc, where is this located in Ubuntu?
[10:34] <jonny> gnomefreak: Plus I can still boot into KDE
[10:34] <darkheart> dooglus Try running it with sudo
[10:34] <kingright> ok gnomefreak
[10:35] <racookier> apokryphos: try - sudo startx -- Xnest :3" I see "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[10:35] <gnomefreak> jonny,  try sudo apt-get remove --purge kde
[10:35] <bill> This is so I can add my server to the hosts file to stop non loop back from giving me my router login instead of my webpage
[10:35] <jonny> ok
[10:35] <DonVincenzo> how can I change my character set ?
[10:35] <gnomefreak> king next sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:35] <apokryphos> racookier: try starting via gdm; kind of wondering what you did to your permissions though...
[10:35] <gnomefreak> kingright, when it comes up put a # infront of the vdrom repo
[10:35] <gnomefreak> cdrom*
[10:35] <kingright> ok
[10:36] <gnomefreak> kingright,  than click save and close it
[10:36] <gnomefreak> kingright,  now type sudo apt-get update
[10:36] <grodius> Heres my story, firs time with ubuntu on this monitor, running 1024x768 which is great for my old one, but now I want to run at 1366x768, and that is unsupported, ran everything it said in the tutorial, 855resolution does not detect my vbios so it cant change my boot
[10:36] <kingright> what line is it in?
[10:36] <bill> nm found it
[10:36] <bill> same directory
[10:36] <gnomefreak> kingright, the cdrom line should be on top
[10:36] <darkheart> bill There's an /etc folder in windows?
[10:36] <racookier> apokryphos : sudo xorgcfg (from gdm terminal)
[10:36] <bill> darkheart
[10:37] <gnomefreak> no darkheart
[10:37] <apokryphos> racookier: er, what?
[10:37] <bill> yes there is it is under system32
[10:37] <dax_> how can i allow ssh connections to my ubuntu computer? now it just says "connection refused" when trying to connect.
[10:37] <gnomefreak> not same
[10:37] <apokryphos> racookier: if your X isn't starting, what does sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start  give?
[10:37] <kingright> ok i should look like http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3755
[10:38] <gnomefreak> that would be the one kingright
[10:38] <racookier> apokryphos: my gdm starts (but don't recognize resolutions) only 640x480
[10:38] <apokryphos> racookier: so follow the wiki entry that I pointed you to
[10:38] <xxMEL0Nxx> why can't ping my pc by its name? i have setup the localhost and the localdomain using the network config but nothing?
[10:38] <grogoreo> hi
[10:38] <apokryphos> hi
[10:38] <jonny> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3756 the fedora DVD is in the DVD tray
[10:38] <kingright> ok ty gnomefreak wish there was a fix for my CD-R i hear if i downgrade my cdrecord it should work right?
[10:39] <racookier> apokryphos : where?
[10:39] <apokryphos> racookier: check your /msg from ubotu
[10:39] <Hobz> Is anybody here familiar with wireless on ubuntu?
[10:39] <budluva> hey, i have a simple question here, im trying to change my usplash colors, so i loaded usplash-artwork.png into gimp, but not being competent in gimp, how do i change the palette colors to the ones i want?
[10:39] <gnomefreak> kingright,  that i dont know
[10:39] <gnomefreak> i use k3b
[10:39] <budluva> there's a guide on changing usplash colors, but it just shows how to replace the image with premade ones, i want to make my own
[10:40] <kingright> but your the gnomefreak lol
[10:40] <racookier> apokryphos: i got it
[10:40] <gnomefreak> lol kingright  yes and i have kde for programs like that one
[10:40] <max> jesse_, question -- using Synaptic, how can I find Subversion? Are there other package servers I can connect to?
[10:40] <gnomefreak> and kdevelop
[10:40] <bill> Hobz yes
[10:40] <jonny> gnomefreak: did you get that? ^
[10:40] <jesse_> max: of course you can connect to more servers
[10:40] <Hobz> I'm having some trouble getting my atheros pc card connected to my router
[10:41] <gnomefreak> yes jonny i did and without seeing it i dont know why maybe the command is sudo apt-get remove --purge kde-desktop
[10:41] <tritium> max apt-cache search subversion, or search in synaptic
[10:41] <jesse_> max: i suggest looking to the ubuntuforums.org forums and search for sources.list
[10:41] <Hobz> I'll put in my wep key and essid, set it to dhcp, but it doesn't obtain an address
[10:41] <kingright> so do you know a ubuntu CD-R man that could help me gnomefreak cuz i really want to upgrade to breezy
[10:41] <gnomefreak> kubuntu-desktop=kde-desktop as a bundle
[10:42] <jesse_> max: sources.list points synaptic/apt to different repositories
[10:42] <hender> hey
[10:42] <gnomefreak> kingright,  is it in the burning?
[10:42] <jesse_> max: and from there you can get a wide range of programs/versions
[10:42] <hender> anybody know why Flash doesn't play sound?
[10:42] <kingright> yes
[10:42] <gnomefreak> ok
[10:42] <jonny> gnomefreak: didnt work
[10:42] <gnomefreak> give me 2 secs
[10:42] <hender> It used to, but it doesn't work anymore
[10:42] <Nail_Bunny> is there anyway to make a movie (say .avi or .mpeg) open up in MPlayer by default without reight licking on  the file and going to properties (because it is freezing when i do)
[10:42] <hender> is there some package that I need to install?
[10:43] <Nail_Bunny> right clickcing*
[10:43] <jonny> hender: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:43] <hender> thanks, jonny
[10:43] <gnomefreak> kingright, take a look at this people have been very sucessful with this
[10:43] <jonny> np
[10:43] <viller> hi
[10:43] <gnomefreak> kingright, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:43] <viller> what's wrong with http://ee.archive.ubuntu.com?
[10:43] <jesse_> max: i suggest this thread for sources.list stuff http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76132
[10:44] <Nail_Bunny> nvm itsworkimng now,
[10:44] <kingright> when i do sudo apt-get update i get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3757
[10:44] <viller> what's wrong with http://ee.archive.ubuntu.com?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> jesse_, i listed my breezy sources list on my site so people could find it easier
[10:45] <kbrooks> viller?
[10:45] <viller> kbrooks?
[10:45] <viller> what's wrong
[10:45] <jesse_> gnomefreak: tell max!
[10:45] <kbrooks> viller: define what's wrong? what happened?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> kingright, close out of synaptic
[10:45] <Hobz> k, one of my network devices is in inet6, how do I switch it?
[10:45] <kingright> gnomefreak, ok
[10:45] <budluva> anyone here a gimp guru?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> kingright,  or any other terminal using apt
[10:45] <viller> The backport thingie or what ever isn't working
[10:45] <gnomefreak> than try it again
[10:46] <viller> multiverse is not working
[10:46] <gnomefreak> tell max what jonny?
[10:46] <kingright> gnomefreak, k
[10:46] <gnomefreak> viller no backports
[10:46] <max> Thanks Jesse.
[10:46] <max> I'm just wanting to get the apps I want (dia, subversion, emacs, ruby on rails, etc.) so I can get up and running.
[10:46] <jonny> gnomefreak: what r u talking about?
[10:46] <niceguy99> ubuntu linux sux
[10:46] <dooglus> darkheart: I can run it using sudo - but that gives me an X session run by root, which I don't want.
[10:46] <viller> gnomefreak: ?
[10:46] <jesse_> max: no problem, the forums are a great resouce as well as the wiki
[10:46] <gnomefreak> viller: breezy doesnt have backports
[10:46] <dooglus> My user account can run 'startx' from a virtual console to start the X process - so why not from inside GNOME?
[10:46] <jesse_> max: and here, of course :)
[10:47] <niceguy99> u
[10:47] <niceguy99> b
[10:47] <niceguy99> u
[10:47] <niceguy99> n
[10:47] <niceguy99> t
[10:47] <niceguy99> u
[10:47] <niceguy99> s
[10:47] <niceguy99> u
[10:47] <niceguy99> c
[10:47] <jesse_> lamer
[10:47] <niceguy99> k
[10:47] <gnomefreak> ty tritium
[10:47] <tritium> sure
[10:47] <viller> main restricted universe multiverse is not working
[10:47] <amonkey> does anyone else ever have random audio clips play at completly random times?
[10:47] <jonny> niceguy99: if thats all u hav to say then get off
[10:47] <bluefrog-10> !vlc
[10:47] <ubotu> vlc is, like, totally, a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[10:47] <kingright> ty tritium
[10:47] <viller> http://ee.archive.ubuntu.com is that thing
[10:48] <gnomefreak> where is ee?
[10:48] <jonny> gnomefreak: tell max about what? huh?
[10:48] <viller> http://ee.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[10:48] <gnomefreak> jonny you told me to tell max something
[10:48] <grodius> what command do I run to configure a proxy
[10:48] <jonny> no i didnt
[10:48] <viller> http://ee.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu is not working, what's wrong!?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> viller what country are u in?
[10:48] <jesse_> gnomefreak: i did
[10:48] <gnomefreak> oops
[10:48] <viller> gnomefreak: estonia
[10:48] <jesse_> gnomefreak: max is asking about using apt/syna[tic
[10:48] <gnomefreak> sorry jonny
[10:49] <jonny> np
[10:49] <gnomefreak> viller what errors are you getting?
[10:49] <gnomefreak> max, your question was what?
[10:49] <jesse_> gnomefreak: you said you have a breezy sources.list on your website, but gave no link ... i just thought it would help max out
[10:49] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhhhhh
[10:49] <kingright> ok ty gnomefreak
[10:49] <jonny> anyone have trouble with ununstalling kubuntu?
[10:49] <hender> jonny, that fixed it in firefox, but I'm using epiphany
[10:50] <hender> any idea what I can do to make it work there?
[10:50] <jonny> y epiphany?
[10:50] <hender> (I'm using nonfree flash, btw)
[10:50] <viller> gnomefreak: i don't want to use pastebin, the error is: couldn't stat source package list
[10:50] <Xandercage> Hi Everyone!!!
[10:50] <hender> jonny, because firefox is slower and doesn't use my nice new tango icons ;)
[10:50] <jesse_> lynx > epiphany
[10:50] <jesse_> lol
[10:51] <hender> netscape forever!
[10:51] <gnomefreak> http://www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/linux.htm   if max is still here
[10:51] <kanako> can someone help me in getting ubuntu running? i'm (trying to have..) a dual boot config: sda1 is xp pro and sda2 is ubuntu. no other hdds on my system. when ubuntu finished installing it installed grub and set the only boot partition to be sda2 and everything seemed to go fine until it restarted. my bios stops with a "missing operating system" error.
[10:51] <crafty__> hi can anyone help me, i am trying to get a remote x windows session from windows using cygwin, I can connect ok and I get the xlogin but when i log in i get an empty brown screen!
[10:51] <jonny> lol ok hold on, hender
[10:51] <kingright> i like firefowx the best
[10:51] <gnomefreak> is that the only part of error viller?
[10:51] <targetx> corincole, allready figured out how to do it ?
[10:51] <jesse_> gnomefreak: thanks!
[10:51] <kingright> firefox*
[10:51] <gnomefreak> yw jesse_
[10:51] <viller> gnomefreak: i have set everything on english except the location and keyboard
[10:51] <budluva> does anyone have an answer to my gimp problem?
[10:52] <viller> gnomefreak: what's the location of pastebin :D
[10:52] <hender> kingright, I have times when I prefer epiphany, and times when I prefer Firefox
[10:52] <jesse_> ok, taking off, goodbye all!
[10:52] <Xandercage> Can someone help me open divx movie in ubuntu
[10:52] <kanako> i'm in slax right now..
[10:52] <jonny> try this: http://freshmeat.net/projects/flashplugin/?branch_id=2730&release_id=115318
[10:52] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/   viller
[10:52] <corincole> does anyone know any decent php irc bots?
[10:52] <_jason> does anyone have some experience with auto-apt?  I'm trying to use it to run ./configure for vlc but it never prompts to isntall any packages even though errors appear.
[10:52] <hender> thanks, jonny
[10:52] <Xandercage> i have problem with mplayer
[10:52] <jonny> it might not help though
[10:52] <kingright> i hear is nice hender
[10:53] <gnomefreak> does everything stop working at same time as others?
[10:53] <kingright> i hear epiphany is nice hender
[10:53] <_jason> Xandercage:  whats the problem
[10:53] <gnomefreak> i perfer opera
[10:53] <corincole> anyone?
[10:53] <corincole> irc bots?
[10:53] <viller> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3759
[10:53] <tritium> kanako, you should have setup sda1 to have the bootable partition
[10:53] <gnomefreak> lil bit of a pain to install
[10:53] <Xandercage> I cant install mplayer
[10:53] <hender> jonny, this seems to not have been updated for a year ... plus it's flash 6 :P
[10:53] <nalioth> _jason: auto-apt depends on you having your sources.list in order
[10:53] <gnomefreak> viller comment out your backports
[10:53] <crafty__> any ideas?
[10:53] <Xandercage> and i dont know which libs to install
[10:53] <hender> I think I'll just jump back to firefox for flash, but thanks everyone
[10:53] <grodius> Heres my story, firs time with ubuntu on this monitor, running 1024x768 which is great for my old one, but now I want to run at 1366x768, and that is unsupported, ran everything it said in the tutorial, 855resolution does not detect my vbios so it cant change my boot. Someone help plz
[10:54] <Xandercage> to get divx movies working
[10:54] <hender> kingright, you should try it - Linux is all about choice!
[10:54] <gnomefreak> viller there is no such thing as backports for breezy
[10:54] <kanako> tritium: i did to see if that would fix it. goes straight to xp pro (no grub)
[10:54] <kingright> ok gnomefreak i dont get how to upgrade to breezy in synaptic
[10:54] <jonny> OH SORRY! wrong link, hold on, hender
[10:54] <tritium> kanako, you would want to install grub on there as well.
[10:54] <_jason> nalioth:  I have the default breezy sources.list what would I have to change or where can i find out more?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> kingright,  did you read the site i gave you?
[10:54] <kingright> i think i will download it hender
[10:54] <vincent_> hello, how do you unzip gz-files?
[10:54] <viller> gnomefreak: how, sources.list? I enabled the thing through synaptic!
[10:54] <nalioth> _jason: join #kubuntu-offtopic please for more help
[10:55] <hender> jonny: you never have to apologize when you're doing someone a favour ;)
[10:55] <kanako> tritium, how would i go about doing that? i'm at the command line in slax at the moment..
[10:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vincent_ about cli
[10:55] <kingright> gnomefreak, i did but i just dont get it
[10:55] <tritium> kanako, I'm not familiar with slax
[10:55] <vincent_> what is cli?
[10:55] <linkd> command line interface
[10:55] <El_Che> cli'toris
[10:55] <viller> gnomefreak: i can't install a thin without it! I can't get my sound working. Do you call that an operating system?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> viller go into synaptic and get rid of the backports highlite the backport repos and delete
[10:56] <El_Che> depending on the context, of course
[10:56] <El_Che> :)
[10:56] <Xandercage> how to install mplayer in ubuntu
[10:56] <nalioth> vincent_: command line interface, check your priv msgs
[10:56] <gnomefreak> kingright,  hold on let me find that site again
[10:56] <Xandercage> or something like that
[10:56] <tritium> El_Che, none of that please
[10:56] <jonny> hender: you say that helped ff but not epiphany?
[10:56] <linkd> Xandercage: i installed it from the source
[10:56] <gnomefreak> everyone with backports please read /topic
[10:56] <budluva> has anyone here successfully made their own usplash image?
[10:56] <kanako> tritium, it's a live cd. do you know how i would install grub in general?
[10:56] <kingright> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:56] <_jason> ubotu:  tell Xandercage about mplayer
[10:56] <kingright> here it is ^
[10:56] <hender> jonny, yeah, the mozilla/firefox/rc tip did the trick in Firefox
[10:56] <gnomefreak> ty king
[10:56] <tritium> kanako, with grub-install
[10:56] <boci^> Humm, ok I installed cd to my G3, how can I boot from cdrom?
[10:57] <Hoxzer> can I somehow setup my system to standby state like in windows I can?
[10:57] <kingright> i tryed it and it messed up ubuntu for me i dont think i did it right
[10:57] <gnomefreak> ok kingright  do the first step
[10:57] <kanako> tritium, thanks for your help. i'll look around a bit for how to do this.. :)
[10:57] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[10:57] <RedKennedy> i installed ubuntu on the first hd, full format, but grub gives me an error when i try to boot
[10:57] <Xandercage> thanks Jason
[10:58] <crafty__> hi can anyone help me, i am trying to get a remote x windows session from windows using cygwin, I can connect ok and I get the xlogin but when i log in i get an empty brown screen, wokrs fine when i log in locally
[10:58] <tritium> kanako, why not reinstall ubuntu, if you haven't used it yet, and setup grub correctly this time?
[10:58] <boci^> it's say: boot init label package falied
[10:58] <gnomefreak> kingright,  let me know when thats done please
[10:58] <jonny> hender: one sec
[10:58] <boci^> boot ide1/@0:4,\\:tbxi
[10:58] <budluva> crafty__, you tried vnc?
[10:58] <boci^> any idea?
[10:58] <Xandercage> i have linux for about 2 days
[10:58] <RedKennedy> could it still install correctly if the jumpers are wrong?
[10:58] <kingright> well gnomefreak, i get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3760
[10:59] <Xandercage> and i used to work in windows
[10:59] <kingright> man i love pastebins
[10:59] <gnomefreak> kingright,  you have something else using apt
[10:59] <boci^> no idea?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> kingright,  do you have synaptic open?
[10:59] <kingright> oh right
[10:59] <kingright> sorry
[10:59] <gnomefreak> its ok
[10:59] <kanako> tritium, i think grub may have been installed to the wrong drive.. think i'll do that. thanks again
[11:00] <tritium> kanako, good luck :)
[11:00] <gnomefreak> wait your really gonna be pissed
[11:00] <kingright> not windows
[11:00] <jonny> hender: what r u using? (warty, hoary, breezy)
[11:00] <hender> breezy
[11:00] <jonny> ok
[11:00] <kingright> ok gnomefreak
[11:00] <vincent_> what was again the command for starting for instance "top" in a new xterm-window?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> thats done kingright ?
[11:00] <kingright> it is
[11:00] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:01] <kingright> ;)
[11:01] <jonny> hender: what version of epiphany
[11:01] <hender> 1.8.2
[11:01] <gnomefreak> kingright, type this or paste it in terminal
[11:01] <gnomefreak> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:01] <kanako> tritium, any idea what should i set my swap partition size to? this is a athlon64 3500+, gig of pc3200 ddr ram, single maxtor sata drive (7200 rpm)
[11:01] <kingright> ok its up
[11:02] <nalioth> kanako: 768mb
[11:02] <gnomefreak> do u still have the upgrade page up?
[11:02] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[11:02] <kingright> yes
[11:02] <tritium> kanako, you'll need more than 1GB for hibernate, if you intend to use it
[11:02] <frank_b> glxgears doesn't give me the fps anymore now in Breezy. anyone knows what happened top it?
[11:02] <hender> if this is too much trouble, I can just use firefox instead when i need sound in flash
[11:02] <nalioth> tritium: if hibernate works
[11:02] <jonny> hender: sorry beyond me, sorry to waste your time, keep on asking around and im sure someone can help you
[11:02] <budluva> frank23, driver installed is fooked
[11:02] <hender> after all, 70% of all flash is just ads
[11:02] <gnomefreak> good scroll down to apt-get section and replace the first one with the second one
[11:02] <tritium> nalioth, it usually does
[11:02] <Frafra> hi all
[11:02] <budluva> frank23, nvidia?
[11:02] <holycow> how can i monitor device changes?  i have a drive in a usb cradle and am plugging it into the usb port but it is not mounting automatically as other devices do.  is there a way to monitor what devices hal sees and is trying to mount and if it is throwing errors?  log file that i'm not aware of?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> nope kingright  i lied
[11:02] <hender> jonny: beyond me too ;) thanks for all your help
[11:02] <EnsignRedshirt> The Keyboard Shortcuts lets me assign keys to a set of predefined actions.  Is there a way to assign a key to run a program of my choice?
[11:03] <kanako> i won't use hibernate. desktop on pretty much 24/7
[11:03] <jonny> hender: sure
[11:03] <gnomefreak> just copy and paste that (sources list in place of yours
[11:03] <kingright> dont lie gnomefreak you mom will get mad at you
[11:03] <tritium> nalioth, hibernate is enabled by default in acpi-support.  suspend is only enabled by default on a few white-listed machines
[11:03] <Frafra> i must make a video from some jpg file adding a ogg file. who can help me?
[11:03] <hender> frafra, you can use kino
[11:03] <hender> it's in the repositories, though it didn't work too well the last time I tried it
[11:03] <kanako> so 768MB. any particular reasoning for that if you don't mind my asking?
[11:03] <Frafra> hender: kino can make videos from jpg?
[11:04] <kingright> so replace my sources list with the one on that page gnomefreak?
[11:04] <gleesond> when I try to login to ubuntu it says "session lasted less than 10 seconds" and then told me to login as failsafe terminal... I don't even know where to begin to fix this problem
[11:04] <gnomefreak> just highlite all of your sources list and hit back space than copy and paste that one into it
[11:04] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:04] <gnomefreak> and leave it open for a minute please i am gonna add something to it
[11:04] <kingright> now save
[11:04] <gleesond> it lets me login as one of my other users but not my account
[11:04] <hender> frafra, last time I tried, it couldn't make videos from anything ;) but I'm sure it was just a build issue, as the program seems to be the most common Linux editing program
[11:04] <kingright> ok
[11:04] <max> gnomefreak/jesse, I'm downloading the new respository list, ala gnomefreaks tutorial.
[11:05] <mips> What is the average fps for nvidia6600 ? 3800 sound ok ???
[11:05] <gnomefreak> kingright,
[11:05] <jesse_> max: excellent
[11:05] <Frafra> mmm...
[11:05] <kingright> gnomefreak
[11:05] <max> Subversion seems to be installing itself... I think!
[11:06] <max> sudo apt-get install subversion
[11:06] <gnomefreak> kingright,  after last repo hit enter 2 times so repo stays there and ur curser is 2 spaces down
[11:06] <NETDREAMZ> anyone know ISPconfig very well?
[11:06] <hender> Frafra, if kino doesn't work for you, there's something under development called Diva (http://diva.mdk.org.pl) though I wouldn't expect it to be useful until the dapper timeframe
[11:06] <lilg> hi, was wondering if anyone has had problems with the breezy installation getting stuck?
[11:06] <Frafra> if I try to inser jpg in kino it says that it need .avi or anything like video
[11:06] <kingright> ?
[11:06] <Frafra> hender: thx
[11:06] <gleesond> once I login to my other account it wont let me sudo anything
[11:06] <hender> you can try building it from source, though, and tell us how it went :)
[11:06] <kingright> ok
[11:06] <jonny> can I get rid of everything but what ubuntu came with with just one command?
[11:06] <jareth_> does anybody know how to regenerate xfce4 menu?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> kingright,  add this under ur last repo
[11:07] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3761
[11:07] <hender> Frafra, I'm sorry ... there's another program that's more CPU and RAM intensive, I'll see if I can find it
[11:07] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone?  Can I assign a key to run, say, tuxracer?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> click there than add what comes up
[11:07] <HappyFool> jonny: look at 'deborphan'
[11:07] <bozel> hi, ich hab mal wieder ein problem
[11:07] <mawe> gleesond: have a look in /var/log/gdm/* maybe you can find out why your session doesn't start
[11:07] <HappyFool> !de
[11:07] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[11:07] <gleesond> ok
[11:07] <bozel> ich hab gerade einen ATI-treiber installiert, aber funktioniert natrlich nicht
[11:07] <jonny> HappyFool: whats that?
[11:08] <kingright> but that is in there gnomefreak
[11:08] <hender> Frafra: http://cvs.cinelerra.org/ Cinelerra might do it, but I don't know if it's in the repos
[11:08] <jonny> EnsignRedshir: you are using ubuntu, right?
[11:08] <nalioth> bozel: englisch spreche hier, deutsch im #ubuntu-de, bitte
[11:08] <kingright> 3 repos up
[11:08] <gnomefreak> kingright, your multiuniverse is in there already?
[11:08] <HappyFool> jonny: program to uninstall packages; i think you can use it to uninstall everything except (say) ubuntu-desktop and dependencies
[11:08] <jesse_> max: did it work?
[11:08] <EnsignRedshirt> jonny: Mostly...
[11:08] <gnomefreak> shit yes it is
[11:08] <gnomefreak> my fault king
[11:08] <max> I'll be able to tell you in 5m32s!
[11:09] <nalioth> gnomefreak: scatology doesn't belong in here
[11:09] <Mabus06> gnomefreak: do you remember the problem you were trying to help me with? somebody else started saying that teh problem was down a different path
[11:09] <mawe> gleesond: if that doesn't give any pointers, try .xsession-erros in your home directory
[11:09] <bozel> ok @nalioth
[11:09] <kingright> gnomefreak look http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3762
[11:09] <gnomefreak> kingright, save it close it than
[11:09] <bozel> i ve problem with my ATI-driver installation
[11:09] <max> Brand new HP NX6110 with no OS. OS and all the apps I want before I go to bed? I hope so!
[11:09] <gnomefreak> scatology nalioth ?
[11:09] <Mabus06> he said it was probably a bios problem, and that I had to read some log
[11:09] <kingright> ok next gnomefreak
[11:09] <jesse_> max: definetly possible
[11:09] <gnomefreak> save and close kingright
[11:09] <kingright> got it
[11:09] <nalioth> gnomefreak: watch your language, please
[11:10] <gnomefreak> type in terminal sudo apt-get update
[11:10] <kanako> i should set the mount point of my install partition as / correct?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> nalioth, yes sir im sorry
[11:10] <max> jesse_: does Ubtunu come with and MP3 player pre-installed?
[11:10] <vincent_> what does "hat was again the command for starting for instance "top" in a new xterm-window?" mean?
[11:10] <jesse_> max: yes, and no
[11:10] <vincent_> I mean!!
[11:10] <jesse_> max: i suggest following the multimedia guide to get all the codecs and using xmmx to play mp3
[11:11] <i3dmaste1> I am confused on the sendmail system on ubuntu? anyone knows how to get it listen on lo and also eth0
[11:11] <gnomefreak> kingright,  after update is done type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and be prepared to sit for a while
[11:11] <jesse_> max: www.ubuntuguide.org in the multimedia section ... its for hoary but works for breezy
[11:11] <kingright> ok lol
[11:11] <kingright> u the man gnomefreak
[11:11] <jareth_> guys??
[11:11] <max> OK. I've got the HP version of Hoary.
[11:11] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide.org
[11:11] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, gnomefreak
[11:12] <gnomefreak> it didnt work :(
[11:12] <HappyFool> jareth_: i suspect there are not many users of xfce here atm
[11:12] <grodius> when i run apt-get update i get all sorts of errors, Im using the modified repositories list found on ubuntuguide.org
[11:12] <jesse_> max: just follow the guide's instructions as far as what codecs to get
[11:12] <gnomefreak> no where near it kingright  sorry :(
[11:12] <HappyFool> jareth_: how about 'dpkg-reconfigure xfce4' or something? (complete guess)
[11:12] <jesse_> max: your repositories are already set up!
[11:12] <Mabus06> ubotu, thanks
[11:12] <ubotu> no worries, Mabus06
[11:12] <jareth_> tries it :(
[11:12] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[11:12] <kingright> i know
[11:12] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:12] <jareth_> and a lot more
[11:12] <Mabus06> ubotu, thanks for nothing
[11:12] <ubotu> Mabus06: bitte
[11:12] <grodius> !faq
[11:12] <ubotu> The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation, or http://help.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <jesse_> max: gotta run, time for the beer!
[11:13] <jesse_> max: goodluck
[11:13] <vincent_> guys, how do I install java on my system?
[11:13] <Distro^Junkie> how hard is it to install kde in ubuntu ?
[11:13] <HappyFool> !tell vincent_  about javadeb
[11:13] <Mabus06> vincent go to the sun website and follow their instructions
[11:13] <HappyFool> Distro^Junkie: not hard if you have bandwidth
[11:13] <HappyFool> Distro^Junkie: you can install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package
[11:13] <jareth_> messed up lanquage settings removed it all, deleted a lot of config files for xfce and now no menu entries... ;(
[11:13] <kingright> 
[11:14] <gleesond> is says "unable to read ICE athority file" in the .xsession-errors
[11:14] <Distro^Junkie> ok HappyFool ... I got adsl with a 2197/543 connection
[11:14] <jareth_> i'm on breezy btw
[11:14] <gnomefreak> kingright, look at the upgrade page if any of those problems accure the fixes are there
[11:14] <HappyFool> jareth_: how about uninstalling / reinstalling xfce4 ?
[11:14] <kingright> look here gnomefreak 770 upgraded, 335 newly installed, 37 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[11:14] <kingright> OMFG
[11:14] <jareth_> did it/tried it... was my 1st try
[11:14] <Magnus-swe> someone please tell me about a thing called illuminati... i need to know
[11:15] <gnomefreak> lol kingright
[11:15] <grodius> can I get a link to a good repository list?
[11:15] <HappyFool> gleesond: delete ~/.ICEauthority file using the terminal
[11:15] <kingright> that is alot!!!
[11:15] <Mabus06> lol Magnus-swe, wrong place for that? try wikipedia
[11:15] <HappyFool> !tell grodius about repos
[11:15] <max> jesse_: thanks!
[11:15] <gnomefreak> kingright, it seems like when i installed emacs it said almost the same thing :(
[11:15] <kingright> poor us
[11:15] <gnomefreak> grodius, what ubuntu do u have?
[11:15] <mawe> jereth_: delete the .xfce dir in your home folder. or better still, move it to .xfce_backup or something
[11:15] <jareth_> otherwise have to wait for my breezy install disk to arrive :(
[11:16] <vincent_> how do you know if you need Linux RPM, Linux, Linux AMD64 or Linux AMD64 RPM?
[11:16] <jareth_> mawe : mom
[11:16] <HappyFool> gleesond: use Ctl-Alt-F1 to get to the terminal (Alt-F7 to get back to GDM); login as yourself and use 'sudo rm ~/.ICEauthority' to remove the file; then logout ('exit') and try graphical login
[11:16] <kingright> can i msg you gnomefreak
[11:16] <gnomefreak> kingright,  sure
[11:16] <mawe> jareth_: backup, don't delete!
[11:16] <Mabus06> use regular linux, most likely vincent
[11:16] <gnomefreak> btw everyone apt-get install xubuntu-desktop works :)
[11:17] <HappyFool> vincent_: i'd just use the java debs (see msg ubotu sent you) but it's up to you *shrug*
[11:17] <jareth_> mawe : already did
[11:17] <gnomefreak> well i was happy about that :)
[11:17] <mawe> jareth_: then logout and login again with xfce, should regenerate
[11:17] <gleesond> sweet it works!!!!!
[11:17] <Magnus-swe> yey!
[11:17] <jareth_> do you have a sample .xfce?
[11:17] <jonny> after you download deborphan, where is it?
[11:17] <mawe> jareth_: hang on
[11:17] <HappyFool> jonny: did you install it using synaptic or apt-get ?
[11:17] <jonny> synaptic, happyfool
[11:18] <hexmAn1Ac> how can u log in as root?
[11:18] <HappyFool> jonny: start a terminal and type 'man deborphan' for info, or look in /usr/share/doc/deborphan
[11:18] <gnomefreak> log in where as root hexmAn1Ac ?
[11:18] <jonny> ok
[11:18] <jareth_> mawe: i'm waiting
[11:18] <hexmAn1Ac> on the log in screen
[11:18] <HappyFool> !tell hexmAn1Ac about root
[11:18] <grodius> I tried to update to breezy but I dont know if it worked, how can I tell what version I have??
[11:19] <HappyFool> grodius: System -> About ubuntu, or 'lsb_release -a' in a terminal
[11:19] <kingright> 74.6kB/s 2h17m19s
[11:19] <gnomefreak> grodius, what does your sources list say?
[11:19] <grodius> shit im running hoary still
[11:19] <vincent_> it says Enable and Configure, Mozilla 1.4 and later, Mozilla 1.2 and later, my Mozilla is version 1.0.7, now what??
[11:19] <mawe> jareth_: wait a bit longer please :)
[11:20] <HappyFool> grodius: the 'About ubuntu' thing can be wrong
[11:20] <Mabus06> gnomefreak: you have tried to help me before but I have an update to my problem
[11:20] <HappyFool> grodius: have you rebooted since the dist-upgrade ?
[11:20] <jareth_> mawe: sure :)
[11:20] <gnomefreak> grodius,  type /topic and click the link about upgrading and follow the instructions
[11:20] <mawe> jareth_: back in a mo
[11:20] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, whats up?
[11:20] <hexmAn1Ac> how would i go about installing cedega?
[11:20] <jareth_> mawe: okidoki!
[11:20] <HappyFool> !tell hexmAn1Ac about cedega
[11:21] <intelikey> name of a lightweight web browse ?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> lynx
[11:21] <jonny> happyfool then what
[11:21] <intelikey> err gui
[11:21] <Mabus06> basically my computer freezes when loading hotplug subsytem if my bios is set to read the geforce instead of the onboard video
[11:21] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:21] <Mabus06> if you didn't remember my problem, gnomefreak
[11:21] <HappyFool> jonny: read and find out how it works
[11:21] <Magnus-swe> tell Magnus about illuminati plz, its essential
[11:21] <jonny> ok
[11:21] <Mabus06> Magnus-swe: wikipedia.org
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Mabus06,  your update of sources kept giving you an error?
[11:21] <Magnus-swe> hmm, okies
[11:22] <Mabus06> what gnomefreak?
[11:22] <vincent_> why is everything small bright bold and green? I can hardly read it man?? why is it like this and how can you change it?
[11:22] <HappyFool> Magnus-swe: there's some 'illuminator' packages in the repos, but no 'illuminati' that i can see
[11:22] <Mabus06> just search for illuminati on that site, Magnus-swe
[11:22] <intelikey> let me rephrase, name of a lightweight gui web browse that can display pictures ?
[11:22] <Distro^Junkie> is it normal when installing files for apt-get to ask for the cd ?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> if you didn't remember my problem, gnomefreak
[11:22] <Mabus06> I think he is talking about the global conspiracy HappyFool, but I don't know why he chose to come here to ask about it.
[11:22] <HappyFool> Distro^Junkie: yip
[11:22] <vincent_> why is everything small bright bold and green? I can hardly read it man!! why is it like this and how can you change it?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Distro^Junkie, if you have a cd repo in your sources yes
[11:23] <jareth_> mawe: anything yes?
[11:23] <Distro^Junkie> should I take it out ?
[11:23] <intelikey> firefox seems to be the default but it's way to heavy 80+m
[11:23] <jareth_> mawe: anything yet?
[11:23] <HappyFool> Mabus06: he has discovered our secret! send out the black helicopters!
[11:23] <bag> has anyone get sysprof from cvs running?
[11:23] <_jason> vincent_:  are you talking about xchat?
[11:23] <vincent_> no in my xterm window
[11:23] <gnomefreak> you can Distro^Junkie  but i would just add a # to the front of it
[11:23] <kbrooks> is Ubuntu in any other speaking lang ubuntu?
[11:23] <kbrooks> the name
[11:23] <Distro^Junkie> in sources.list ?
[11:24] <mawe> jareth_: which dir did you move, .xonfig/xfce4 or ~/.xfce4?
[11:24] <mawe> sorry ~/.config/xfce4
[11:24] <jonny> whats a good secondary to ubuntu
[11:24] <mawe> fedora core 4
[11:24] <jareth_> mawe: have to admitt... removed all files which included xfce and xfwm... :(
[11:24] <Magnus-swe> HappyFool: heh, whats the fjukin privmsg cmd in this irrsi ?
[11:25] <Mabus06> Magnus-swe: /msg
[11:25] <mawe> jareth_: and then logged out and in again?
[11:25] <jareth_> mawe: system-wide
[11:25] <jareth_> yep
[11:25] <mawe> system-wide????
[11:25] <gnomefreak> Distro^Junkie,  type in terminal  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:25] <jareth_> mawe: yes!
[11:25] <mawe> oh
[11:25] <vincent_> when you die it is only one moment
[11:25] <dm> How do you mount a drive again ? lol
[11:25] <mawe> hehe
[11:25] <Terminus> dm, mount /dev/foo /mnt/point
[11:26] <mawe> and you tried deinstalling and reinstalling xfce?
[11:26] <intelikey> dm "mount <device> <mount.point> "
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Distro^Junkie, after that find the cdrom repo and add a # to the front save close than type sudo apt-get update
[11:26] <canindya> anybody using thout reader ?
[11:26] <nalioth> Magnus-swe: you cant priv msg anyone. you are not registerd
[11:26] <nalioth> Magnus-swe: type /msg nickserv help register
[11:26] <HappyFool> or just ask in #
[11:27] <jonny> how can you download biyyorent files on ubuntu
[11:27] <mawe> jareth_: and you tried deinstalling and reinstalling xfce?
[11:27] <dm> says moint point does not exist
[11:27] <gnomefreak> brb my head is spinning
[11:27] <canindya> thout is really slow and taked ages to start! java based app are slow but this is crawling in amd64 with 512mb ram!
[11:27] <jareth_> mawe: different times
[11:27] <Magnus-swe> we have become very pretty nowdays / im not liking it one bit
[11:27] <HappyFool> jonny: there's a simple gnome-bittorrent client in ubuntu; try just clicking on torrent links
[11:28] <grodius> is 450 b/s a usual speed to get when running apt-get update
[11:28] <vincent_> how can you find a "plugins" directory in your mozilla installation directory?
[11:28] <intelikey> dm that's a simple enough error message.  your selected mount point is not there.  so re spell it or create it.
[11:28] <dm> intelikey it says /mnt/point does not exist,
[11:28] <Magnus-swe> nalioth: do you remeber how it was 5 years ago ?
[11:28] <Magnus-swe> it was sweet
[11:28] <dm> intelikey how do i create it hehe sorry , no time to search through wiki triyng to burn KUBUNTU
[11:28] <jonny> and you dont have to download them with bittorent, just so long as you have the client, happyfool?
[11:28] <HappyFool> grodius: a mite slow, even for me on dial-up
[11:28] <mawe> jareth_: sorry, then i'm stumped. not sure what you deleted, but a reinstall should have worked if apt liked the idea...
[11:29] <fre4k> what is the best way to install nvidia drivers on ubuntu ... i have a GeForce 2 MX 400 PIII 1 GHz 256 MB Ram
[11:29] <grodius> shit
[11:29] <nalioth> Magnus-swe: the 'no unregged users = no priv msgs' is due to a spambot attack over the past few weeks
[11:29] <grodius> does anyone know a command to config an http proxy??
[11:29] <intelikey> dm "ls / "    and look at what it says.    if there is a  mnt/  then use it.  if not look for  media/
[11:29] <HappyFool> jonny: the client lets you download torrents, so yes
[11:29] <Magnus-swe> we talked via ssh because irc is crap etc
[11:29] <mawe> jareth_: HOW exactly did you delete all xfce files on the system?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> <<<:x
[11:29] <holycow>  anyone else have usb hotplug issues in breezy (not a fresh install, upgrade from hoary)?
[11:29] <jonny> ok thx
[11:29] <jareth_> mawe: locate xfce
[11:29] <jareth_> mawe: locate xfwm
[11:30] <jareth_> :)
[11:30] <HappyFool> grodius: 'http_proxy=http://myproxy.mydomain:portno/ apt-get update'
[11:30] <Magnus-swe> nalioth: this is a "policy change", hosed network etc... not fun
[11:30] <jareth_> mawe: then a rm -rvf on the dirs
[11:30] <HappyFool> grodius: or 'export http_proxy=http://myproxy.mydown:portno/' and then run the apt-get commands
[11:30] <intelikey> dm haste makes waste.  if you don't have time to do it right, it will take you 7 times as long.
[11:30] <nalioth> Magnus-swe: let's take our opinions to #ubuntu-offtopic please (or #freenode)
[11:30] <mawe> jareth_: oh dear...
[11:30] <dm> intelikey what is the command to make a folder ?
[11:30] <Mabus06> !ndiswrapper
[11:30] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[11:31] <Distro^Junkie> anyone here running amarok 1.3.5 ?
[11:31] <intelikey> dm mkdir
[11:31] <jareth_> mawe: dear who?? ;)
[11:31] <Magnus-swe> nalioth: i bet half of those here are security "aware" or logdronez
[11:31] <intelikey> but only root can write to /
[11:31] <intelikey> and only root can mount things not in fstab
[11:31] <max> Linux "just works" with my iPod. Nice.
[11:31] <fre4k> what is the best way to install nvidia drivers on ubuntu ... i have a GeForce 2 MX 400 PIII 1 GHz 256 MB Ram
[11:32] <gnomefreak> max: linux never just works be happy lol
[11:32] <max> gnomefreak: Any way I can edit my playlists? Or do I need to delve deep into the iPod Linux project?
[11:32] <Magnus-swe> nalioth: naah, im liking this thing although the name... :)
[11:32] <gnomefreak> max ipod is lil too advanced for me i still using a comador 64 :(
[11:32] <dm> what is a good burner to mount ISO images.
[11:32] <jareth_> mawe: seems you lost it too?
[11:32] <Magnus-swe> nalioth: nice is good..
[11:33] <intelikey> anyone; name of a lightweight gui web browse that can display pictures ?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> empathy?
[11:33] <HappyFool> intelikey: tried maybe opera? (not a clue about its relative 'weight')
[11:33] <mawe> jareth_: what exactly is the problem again? ;)
[11:33] <vincent_> is 1.0.7 the latest version of Firefox?? if so, why does java ask for 1.2 or 1.4 or later??
[11:33] <gnomefreak> how light weight do you want it?
[11:33] <jareth_> intelikey : dillo
[11:33] <mawe> no menus?
[11:33] <intelikey> key word light weight
[11:33] <intelikey> jareth_ maybe
[11:33] <jareth_> mawe: no menyu entries in xfce
[11:33] <HappyFool> intelikey: otherwise i believe there's a w3m with image support
[11:33] <grodius> happyfool thanks :-D
[11:33] <dm> nalioth any good gnome cd burners for burning iso images :)  hehe
[11:33] <intelikey> i'll give it a look
[11:34] <nalioth> HappyFool: links2
[11:34] <vincent_> is 1.0.7 the latest version of Firefox?? if so, why does java ask for 1.2 or 1.4 or later??
[11:34] <gnomefreak> vincent_, yes 1.0.7 is latest stable version
[11:34] <tritium> dm, nautilus
[11:34] <canindya> fre4k, search nvidia in http://ubuntuguide.org/
[11:34] <nalioth> dm: gnomebaker, graveman come to mind
[11:34] <max> gnomefreak: I've got to get the MP3 playing stuff installed, but from the looks of things I'm not going to be stuck with all of the same songs for the next 2 years!
[11:34] <intelikey> HappyFool i didn't know there was image support for w3m
[11:34] <nosegos> Hi! I'm having some problems upgrading to breezy.. It won't boot with an external sata controller plugged in, saying that "Mounting /dev/sda1 on /root failed: No such device"
[11:34] <fre4k> canindya, okay
[11:34] <nosegos> However, if I pull it out it boots just fine. Could there be some sort of ordering issue, so that the external controller is loaded before the motherboard one? If so, how do I fix it?
[11:34] <mawe> jareth_: right-click on xfce menu icon brings up a config screen
[11:34] <intelikey> maybe i'll look into that also.   thanks all
[11:34] <HappyFool> intelikey: well, i remember seeing pictures inside emacs when browsing. can't remember how it happened
[11:34] <Mabus06> can someone tell me how to cd to my cdrom0?
[11:35] <mawe> jareth_: under menu file, i've got /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml
[11:35] <gnomefreak> max: when it comes to ipod the only thing i know is u can plug it into a bmw other than that im lost
[11:35] <Mabus06> I know it sounds like a stupid question, but I am new to linux
[11:35] <intelikey> hmmmm....
[11:35] <jareth_> made a empty fil for it
[11:35] <HappyFool> Mabus06: 'cd /media/cdrom0'
[11:35] <canindya> Mabus06,  cd /media/cdrom0
[11:35] <Niomi> fre4k: auto-install process comes with this a useful application called automatrix
[11:35] <gnomefreak> yeah what they said
[11:35] <dm> tritium im trying to burn Kubuntu install CD, will it mount the iso on the cd?
[11:35] <HappyFool> Mabus06: try also looking in the 'places' menu, unless you need the command-line
[11:35] <tellnes> Hey, just a little question, using rhythmbox in ubuntu 5.10, i get "this file is not a audio stream" what plugin might i miss?
[11:35] <jareth_> mawe: made a empty fil for it
[11:35] <tritium> dm, you want to burn it, not mount it.
[11:36] <tritium> dm, right-click on the .iso's icon, and click "Write to CD"
[11:36] <HappyFool> !tell tellnes about restricted
[11:36] <nosegos> Anoyone? Full error log at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3763
[11:36] <HappyFool> tellnes: more than likely the mp3 codec -- check that page for info
[11:36] <Magnus-swe> quit network-infestation-govtspydroneseverywhereandallwewantedwasgoodcode"Fuck you!"
[11:36] <dm> tritium ok ill try it, ive had bad experiences with Windows burners, they write the ISO TO the disk, not make it the disc itself if you know what i mean
[11:36] <intelikey> yes my man dillo is it.   :)
[11:36] <tritium> dm, I know what you mean.  Don't worry, nautilus is smarter than that
[11:37] <gnomefreak> dm: make sure you burn it as iso not just dataand burn it slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[11:37] <jareth_> intelikey: have good fun :)
[11:37] <HappyFool> are we all govt spy drones then? *rolls eyes*
[11:37] <intelikey> ff wanted to install 80+ mb   dillo 4m   :)    disk space is an issue for this box.
[11:37] <jonny> cyphase?
[11:38] <HappyFool> this page has some tips for burning cds: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm
[11:38] <mawe> jareth_: that might work...
[11:38] <jareth_> intelikey: originall designed for embedded
[11:38] <Hobz> How do I apply a driver patch?
[11:38] <jareth_> mawe: thanks!!!!
[11:38] <gnomefreak> i like the idea of lynx just cant figure out how to get webpages
[11:38] <mawe> jareth_: works?
[11:39] <jareth_> mawe: mom... what is the path again for that file?
[11:39] <HappyFool> Hobz: you want to patch a driver or.. ?
[11:39] <mawe> /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml
[11:39] <intelikey> yeah  cool.
[11:39] <jareth_> mawe: mom
[11:39] <nalioth> gnomefreak: type "g"
[11:40] <intelikey> and firefox must have be designed for bloating ?
[11:40] <MiniBit>  i have 128 in ram, ubunto support?
[11:40] <Hobz> HappyFool, I'm sorry, I don't understand the signifigance of the or..?
[11:40] <kingright> man gnomefreak this upgrade will take 4ever
[11:40] <HappyFool> Hobz: or something else? ;) (like, patching the kernel)
[11:40] <gnomefreak> kingright, yes it will
[11:40] <gnomefreak> nalioth, ty im about to try that
[11:40] <Hobz> is that what's involved in changing my driver?
[11:40] <jareth_> mawe: brb :)
[11:40] <mawe> ok
[11:41] <woland_> whats the vncserver package called to apt-get in ubuntu?
[11:41] <kingright> gnomefreak, look  68.0kB/s 2h10m21s
[11:41] <HappyFool> Hobz: maybe you should tell me what you want to do, and what the source of your information is
[11:41] <nalioth> gnomefreak: i find links2 to be the nadir of text browsers
[11:41] <vincent_> is this the chatplace to ask your ubuntu questions?
[11:41] <Niomi> woland_, doesn't vncserver come with ubuntu out of the box?
[11:41] <nalioth> vincent_: yes it is
[11:41] <kingright> gnomefreak you think my burner will work in breezy?
[11:41] <woland_> Niomi, appears not
[11:42] <gnomefreak> nalioth, is that the apt-get name for it?
[11:42] <HappyFool> nalioth: you mean 'bad' by that?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> kingright, it should if it working in hoary
[11:42] <nalioth> HappyFool: i thought 'nadir' was "the top" or "peak"
[11:42] <HappyFool> cos nadir @ dict.org : 'The lowest point; the time of greatest depression.'
[11:42] <darkheart> Niomi There is functionality to use VNC to connect to the active desktop that's built into Ubuntu.
[11:42] <Hobz> HappyFool,  I'd like to put a patch from a suite of tools into my wireless driver (or kernel, as the case seems to be) in order to make the tools work
[11:42] <HappyFool> nalioth: that's zenith ;)
[11:42] <kingright> gnomefreak that is the thing it did not work in hoary cuz its a cyberdrv
[11:43] <gnomefreak> and yes it is :)
[11:43] <nalioth> gnomefreak: join #kubuntu-offtopic please and i'll tell ya how you can get cool functionality outta links2
[11:43] <gnomefreak> kingright, lets worry about that after we see if the upgrade works
[11:43] <Distro^Junkie> what do I need to do to get 1.3.5 for amarok ?
[11:43] <HappyFool> Hobz: if you patch the kernel, you will need to compile and install it, which is relatively involved
[11:43] <kingright> ok
[11:43] <vincent_> what does it mean when there is -> /etc/alternatives/mozilla.1.gz after a certain file when you type ls -l ??
[11:43] <gnomefreak> ok nalioth  ill be right there
[11:43] <intelikey> i don't under stand why developers don't make things, like firefox, so that you can have all the bells and whistels, but can also install "minimal" and just let it say 'sorry that feature is disabled because xxx is not installed'.   it looks like that could be done without too much extra code.
[11:43] <Treefrog> can any one help with a GRUB problem?? error 17 after the boot menu filesystem type unknown
[11:43] <Hobz> hmm, might be better off saving this until later then
[11:44] <HappyFool> Hobz: read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto for more on general kernel compiling
[11:44] <nalioth> vincent_: means whatever file you "ls"'d is a link to the mozilla file
[11:44] <Hobz> thanks
[11:44] <HappyFool> Hobz: the usual procedure to apply a patch is something like 'cd /usr/src/linux' (or wherever) and than 'patch -p1 < /path/to/mypatch.patch'
[11:44] <jesse_> names
[11:44] <jesse_> crap
[11:45] <Hobz> after which I'd need to recompile the entire kernel?
[11:45] <HappyFool> Hobz: and the modules
[11:45] <kbrooks> Yeah.
[11:45] <Hobz> yikes
[11:45] <HappyFool> Hobz: rite-of-passage to the next level ;)
[11:45] <intelikey> in place of "dependancies" they would be "connected additions" .   kinda like plugins.
[11:45] <Hobz> well, give it a few more days
[11:45] <budluva> anyone here familiar with usplash images?
[11:46] <jareth_> mawe: still no positve result :(
[11:46] <HappyFool> Hobz: i think kernel-package takes care of lots of details, though I haven't used it myself. and I still haven't gotten my rtai-patch kernel going *sigh*
[11:46] <vincent_> so with less you get something readable and with more something undecipharable?
[11:46] <mawe> hm... did you set the path in the properties of the menu icon?
[11:46] <jareth_> mawe: ??
[11:46] <Treefrog> sorry. I feel all Noob and silly posting again... can any one help with a GRUB problem?? error 17 after the boot menu filesystem type unknown
[11:46] <mawe> jareth_: hm... did you set the path in the properties of the menu icon?
[11:46] <shinmen> Guys, I have a problem with XVideo. I installed this machine since 5.10-pre (20050908 actually), and everything worked like a charm. After tons and tons of updates (bunch of X and kernel ones) I restarted X and now when I try to view videos with xine, I only get a blue screen.
[11:47] <Mabus06> how come my wireless card is not listed in my network settings?
[11:47] <shinmen> Tried the "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" option but still I only get a blue screen.
[11:48] <shinmen> xvinfo and xine-check both agree that the extension is there and that it supports a bunch of overlays.
[11:49] <shinmen> It works if I use -V Xshm, but obviosly, the performance of that, sucks.
[11:50] <jonny> how can I change the partition size in gparted?
[11:50] <St^Anger^19m> I wish to create a sort of wallpaper from scratch....any ideas of which software to use...and where to start from?
[11:51] <jonny> how can I change the partition size in gparted?
[11:51] <nalioth> jonny: use the livecd to do your gparted work
[11:51] <darkheart> St^Anger^19m gimp
[11:51] <shinmen> St^Anger^19m, Probably gimp. Could try with inkscape perhaps.
[11:51] <St^Anger^19m> yes gimp seems cool enough
[11:51] <intelikey> what package is need for jave-scripts to run ???
[11:51] <jonny> nalioth: I only have the warty live cd does that include gparted?
[11:51] <St^Anger^19m> it has all the features i would need
[11:52] <darkheart> intelikey Java or javascript?
[11:52] <St^Anger^19m> and how are they done/built/designed?
[11:52] <nalioth> jonny: if it does not, you can apt-get it
[11:52] <intelikey> javascript
[11:52] <HappyFool> intelikey: tried 'apt-cache search javascript' ?
[11:52] <darkheart> intelikey Javascript is supported by your browser.
[11:53] <HappyFool> i see something called 'beanshell' (package bsh)
[11:53] <LoneWolf071> how do i start a telnet deamon
[11:53] <moquist> so the backports repositories seem not to exist.  have they been replaced by something?
[11:53] <Distro^Junkie> happyfool how do I get amarok 1.3.5 in the repos ?
[11:53] <darkheart> !tell moquist about w32codecs
[11:53] <intelikey> yeah but would it be 'entity-javascript'   or something else in that list....     nm i can work this one out.
[11:53] <moquist> darkheart: excellent.  thx.
[11:54] <erUSUL> !tell erusul about w32codecs
[11:54] <jonny> how many pixels is a 17 inch monitor (for gimp)
[11:54] <HappyFool> Distro^Junkie: afaict breezy supports 1.3.1
[11:54] <intelikey> darkheart ?
[11:54] <HappyFool> Distro^Junkie: if you want a newer version, the easiest way might be to install from source
[11:54] <darkheart> intelikey Are you trying to program with javascript or what?
[11:54] <XIII> hi
[11:54] <darkheart> moquist np
[11:55] <XIII> how to remove/uninstall kubuntu with all its programs
[11:55] <XIII> ?
[11:55] <darkheart> erUSUL If you want ubotu to tell you something, you can just msg it like '/msg ubotu w32codecs' =)
 intelikey Javascript is supported by your browser. <--- dillo just said that the page was trying to run a javascript  E unsupported
[11:55] <seth_k|lappy> XIII, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:55] <holycow> well that was perfectly weird, a reboot and now it hotplugs properly
[11:55] <darkheart> XIII 'sudo agt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop
[11:55] <intelikey> darkheart so i was wondering if there was a js package.
[11:55] <LoneWolf071> how do i start a telnet deamon? or install it?
[11:56] <HappyFool> darkheart: that will remove kubuntu dependencies? i thought only aptitude did that
[11:56] <blackvd> man my mplayer plugin wont play shit. has anyone else had this prob when first installing Ubuntu?
[11:56] <darkheart> HappyFool Honestly, don't know....figured if it installed everything, it should remove everything as well =)
[11:56] <darkheart> intelikey no...javascript is implemented by your browser.
[11:56] <HappyFool> darkheart: unfortunately, i think that is not correct
[11:56] <XIII> thank you so much darkheart
[11:56] <LoneWolf071> telnet anyone?
[11:56] <darkheart> intelikey Try opening the page w/ firefox or something.
[11:56] <linlin> Where can I ask to have a few apps added to the Ubuntu repos?
[11:56] <HappyFool> LoneWolf071: try 'apt-cache search telnetd' -- i see a few
[11:57] <n0odl3> how do i register
[11:57] <darkheart> HappyFool Well, that's pretty lame, isn't it? =\
[11:57] <HappyFool> linlin: the motu
[11:57] <intelikey> lol darkheart there is no other browser on this box   :)
[11:57] <HappyFool> darkheart: *shrug* use aptitude
[11:57] <LoneWolf071> i did and i installed telnetd and it won't work, it puts it under inet-real, but it won't allow telnets
[11:57] <holycow> blackvd, i've always had problems with all browser plugins for playing vid.  i stick to now using a dedicated standalone app for all online video
[11:57] <dv> hello
[11:57] <HappyFool> LoneWolf071: ah. sorry, i don't use telnet *shudder*. read the docs and try to figure it out
[11:57] <blackvd> loads the video, buffers it, then nothing? Tried install every codec known to man ...but nothing?
[11:58] <dv> is there a way to get access to my mainboards temperature sensors?
[11:58] <dv> I have an asus p4c800-E
[11:58] <blackvd> which one
[11:58] <darkheart> HappyFool What exactly does aptitude do that apt-get doesn't in this case?
[11:58] <dv> deluxe
[11:58] <erUSUL> LoneWolf071, use ssh why do you need telnet?
[11:58] <HappyFool> !tell linlin about motu
[11:58] <XIII> darkheart it just uninstalls it not also the programs
[11:58] <nalioth> dv: lm_sensors
[11:58] <intelikey> darkheart that does give me an idea though.   i'll apt ff and then check the list of added packages it wants to install and see if there is a js package.....   thank you.
[11:59] <HappyFool> darkheart: if you install something with aptitude, when you uninstall it, it will also install dependencies which where installed with it (and not required by other, installed programs) -- or so i believe
[11:59] <dv> lm_sensors is a program?
[11:59] <j0nas`> hey im having a little trouble with the ATI driver install described on the forums.
[11:59] <HappyFool> darkheart: err, it will also UNinstall dependencies, that is
[11:59] <j0nas`> after installing the generated .deb packages i dont see the aticonfig program or fglrxinfo program
[11:59] <j0nas`> can anyone help me?
[11:59] <darkheart> intelikey There is no JS package. The functionality is implemented per-browser.