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_Tonio_hi02:21
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Riddellgrr, kipi and kexif both have unnecessary c2 on theirlibraries04:59
Riddellin debian04:59
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\shwe removed it during breezy cycle05:10
Riddell\sh: and debian added it back05:11
\shgrmpf05:11
\shbut why? the request to remove it came from a debian guy..because there is no c++ exported interface somehow05:12
Riddell  * Change libkexifc2 package name to libkexif1c2 to match ubuntu05:13
Riddellalso05:13
Riddell  * Grab ubuntu gcc4_fixes.diff patch. Wish we would work together and05:13
Riddell    not duplicate efforts05:13
\shI think i have to forget about anything right now...my stomach turns, and i'm not even sitting in the plane yet05:14
\shthx delta airlines05:14
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\shRiddell: see u in montreal later today :)06:20
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=== lamont points at http://buildd.mmjgroup.com/buildLogs/k/kdegames/4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1/kdegames_4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1_20051028-1946-hppa-failed.gz
lamont and makes raspberry noises.04:18
jpatrick?04:20
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cmvoRiddell: ping07:00
Riddellhi cmvo 07:00
cmvoHi! I finaly got a usefull debdiff. I sent it to your ubuntu email address.07:01
Riddellgreat, thanks :)07:01
Riddellwe just need to find some testers07:01
=== hunger can test.
hungerIf you do not mind me testing on dapper with kde 3.5 beta that is.07:03
Riddellhunger: you'll have to recompile all of kdebase too07:03
hungerRiddell: That is not too stable here at the moment anyway... I don't mind doing that if it is painless.07:04
=== hunger wonders what he volunteered for:-)
Riddellhunger: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kdebase_3.4.3_0ubuntu5.debdiff07:04
hungerWhat do I do with a debdiff?07:04
Riddellyou'llprobably need to just apply that by hand against 3.507:05
Riddellmake sure you have 3.5 deb-src in sources.list07:05
Riddellapt-get source kdebase07:05
Riddellcd kdebase07:05
Riddellapply patch by hand07:05
Riddellapt-get build-dep kdebase && debuild07:06
Riddellgo for walk07:06
Riddellcd ..07:06
Riddelldpkg --install kdebase-bin*deb07:06
hungerRiddell Sounds easy...07:06
Riddellhunger: do ou currenly have the admin problem?[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D07:06
hungerRiddell: Dunno. What is the admin problem?07:08
jpatrickhunger: the kdesu bug07:08
jpatrickhunger: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868107:11
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hunger_Sorry... lost my connection.07:12
hunger_What is the admin problem?07:12
Riddell18:08 < jpatrick> hunger: the kdesu bug07:12
Riddell18:10 < jpatrick> hunger: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868107:12
verwilsthellow guys!07:13
jpatrickverwilst: hello07:13
hunger_I guess so...07:14
Riddell** #ubz for conference discussion07:14
jpatrickanyone seen jjesse ?07:15
hunger_Works for me...07:15
Riddellnot recently07:15
hunger_I do not have the kdesu bug (at least not for kdm).07:15
Riddellhunger: well if you want to compile them anyway that would be cool for giving to other people who are testing07:15
jpatrickI want to start on the docs07:16
hunger_Riddell: I can compile the stuff, no problem.07:16
jpatrickemailed him a week ago07:16
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amuRiddell: http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kunterbuntu-livecd-3.5b2-i386-de-7.iso :)07:19
hunger_Riddell: Patch applies cleanly (apart from the changelog entry.)07:20
Riddellamu: ooh?  what's on that?07:20
Riddellkunterbuntu sounds quite bad in english07:20
verwilstkunterbuntu?07:20
Riddellthen again kubuntu sounds bad in portgese and malasian07:20
amuit breezy with 3.5b2, desktop comes without questions and just starts in german07:20
hunger_Riddell: Aehm... how was that build command again?07:21
verwilst(k)ubuntu already sounds strange for most people07:21
verwilst_always_ i hear "what? mobutu?"07:21
Riddell18:05 < Riddell> make sure you have 3.5 deb-src in sources.list07:21
Riddell18:05 < Riddell> apt-get source kdebase07:21
Riddell18:05 < Riddell> cd kdebase07:21
Riddell18:05 < Riddell> apply patch by hand07:21
Riddell18:06 < Riddell> apt-get build-dep kdebase && debuild07:21
Riddell18:06 < Riddell> go for walk07:21
Riddell18:06 < Riddell> cd ..07:21
Riddell18:06 < Riddell> dpkg --install kdebase-bin*deb07:21
hunger_Aehm... yes.07:21
verwilstRiddell, building kdelibs with debug ;)07:21
verwilstonly added debug to the DEB_OPTION thingy07:21
verwilstand checking if it works07:22
Riddellamu: what does the name mean?07:22
amusomething like : "all in a tumble"untu 07:22
hunger_Wow... lots of builddebs on that one...07:22
Riddellamu: want me to announce it on kubuntu.org?07:26
hunger_Does fakeroot not work for building kde debs?07:27
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Riddellhunger_: fakeroot is required07:27
amuRiddell: thx, no need,  ... it's only an upgrade and the first image, i need some re: from the germans ...07:27
hungerRiddell: "fakeroot debuild" stops...07:28
Riddellhunger: just run debuild07:28
Riddellit should call fakeroot for you07:28
hungerOh... always used dpkg-buildpackage so far.07:29
hungerOK, building.07:30
Riddelldebuild calls dpkg-buildpackage but has some extra checks07:30
amuRiddell: makes more sense if i build in feature different isos with differents lang presetuped, the boot is much more faster, and if the desktop comes up without questions, looks much more better than before 07:30
Riddellamu: how do you getit without questions?07:30
amuadded it to "syslinux append 07:31
Riddellclever07:32
Riddellwe should adapt the gnome live cd scripts to kde07:32
amuallready done :) it works but not too smart :)07:32
hungerRiddell: Will kde 3.5beta make it into dapper soon?07:33
amuin generall i miss some error exceptions, and the cleanup isnt well done07:33
Riddellhunger: probably after the conference07:33
Riddellso week after next07:33
hungerRiddell: I am building with the dapper toolchain... might that cause problems with the other stuff that is breezy?07:33
hungerRiddell: Yeap, thought so already.07:34
Riddellhunger: yes it will07:34
hungerRiddell: So should I start with qt, kdelibs, ...07:34
Riddellhunger: no, use a breezy chroot07:35
hungerRiddell: Riddell: Nah... I do not have the hdd space for that.07:35
hungerRiddell: This is a tiny little laptop I got here.07:37
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verwilst20M     kdelibs4c2-dbg_3.4.92-0ubuntu2_i386.deb08:55
cmvoGot to go. Cuagn08:55
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verwilstcp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.la': No such file or directory09:33
verwilstdh_install: command returned error code 25609:33
verwilstany idea? :$09:33
verwilstkdebase :$09:33
Riddellverwilst: what sources?09:34
jpatrickkdebase i guess09:34
Riddellbut which version09:38
Riddelland compiled on what09:38
Riddell.la files can usually be ignored09:38
jpatrickwhat are .la's?09:41
jpatricklibtool library files?09:41
Riddelllibtool thingies09:41
verwilstRiddell, 3.5beta209:57
verwilstjust apt-get sourced it09:57
verwilstadded debug to debian/rules09:57
verwilstand debuild09:57
verwilstand it gives me this error near the end :(09:58
Riddellverwilst: remove that files from debian/*install09:58
Riddelldebuild -nc  to restart10:02
Riddellwithout clearing10:02
verwilstbut why doesn't the non-debug install complain?10:02
verwilsthehe i know ;)10:02
verwilstalready doing that10:02
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Riddellwhat should I talk about in my kubuntu talk?10:22
jpatrickKubuntu Forums10:22
Riddellwhat to say about them?10:23
jpatrick:|10:23
RiddellI should just make a straight line with my mout?10:24
Riddellmouth10:24
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RiddellMez: new k3b out10:27
Riddellhi CaiN_SA, where are you?10:27
CaiN_SAin the hotel :)10:27
Riddellbut where?  it's a big hotel10:28
CaiN_CaNlol10:28
CaiN_CaNroom 50410:28
Riddellanything exciting happening up there?10:29
CaiN_CaNyou ?10:29
CaiN_CaNnope10:29
CaiN_CaNwhere you now ?10:29
Riddellin my room, 332, trying to think what to say in my talk10:29
CaiN_CaNah ok10:29
CaiN_CaNyou sitting in your room /10:29
CaiN_CaN?10:30
Riddellyes10:30
CaiN_CaNah ok10:30
Riddellcome down and tell me what to say10:30
CaiN_CaNyou went round town yet ?10:31
CaiN_CaNlol kk10:31
CaiN_CaNross is rubbish talker10:31
CaiN_CaNhe will :P10:31
CaiN_CaNbe there in little while10:31
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RiddellMez: what' happening with backports?10:36
Riddelljpatrick: hmm, it's not on the download page10:37
CaiN_CaNk comming Riddell 10:39
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verwilstcp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.so': No such file or directory10:52
verwilstwtf10:52
verwilstbleh how come these files aren't there? :(11:04
verwilstbtw is there a deb for kdevelop 3.3beta2? ;)11:11
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SimeThat was strange. I had trouble running Adept. First it complained about not being able to talk to the DCOP server, and then11:46
SimeAdept appeared with the wrong widget style. I turned it off. Ran kbuildsyscoa, and tried again. Then everything went ok.11:47
Simeksyscoca problem in breezy??11:47
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Riddellkdesu maybe11:51
RiddellSime: can you run kcontrol modules as admin?11:51
SimeRiddell: don't think so. A ksudo dialog didn't appear....11:52
SimeRiddell: system services just worked normally. Users&Group didn't...11:52
SimeRiddell: ok, now User&Groups is working too.11:53
Riddellspooky11:54

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