=== olwina [n=olwin@dyn-83-156-87-20.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A60D1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:21] <_Tonio_> hi === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.27] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A60887.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:59] grr, kipi and kexif both have unnecessary c2 on theirlibraries [04:59] in debian === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:10] <\sh> we removed it during breezy cycle [05:11] \sh: and debian added it back [05:11] <\sh> grmpf [05:12] <\sh> but why? the request to remove it came from a debian guy..because there is no c++ exported interface somehow [05:13] * Change libkexifc2 package name to libkexif1c2 to match ubuntu [05:13] also [05:13] * Grab ubuntu gcc4_fixes.diff patch. Wish we would work together and [05:13] not duplicate efforts [05:14] <\sh> I think i have to forget about anything right now...my stomach turns, and i'm not even sitting in the plane yet [05:14] <\sh> thx delta airlines === hunger [n=hunger@p54A61C5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:20] <\sh> Riddell: see u in montreal later today :) === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F7226.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A63E08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D21B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === CaiN_SA [n=cain@66.103.220.210] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@mobileweb02.london.02.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@193.113.235.183] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-6.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A61F16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@mobileweb04.london.02.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === CaiN_SA [n=cain@66.103.220.248] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpatrick [n=patrick@185.Red-83-35-197.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lamont points at http://buildd.mmjgroup.com/buildLogs/k/kdegames/4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1/kdegames_4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1_20051028-1946-hppa-failed.gz [04:18] and makes raspberry noises. [04:20] ? === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D21B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.27] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === hunger [n=hunger@p54A63F81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@mobileweb02.london.02.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:00] Riddell: ping [07:00] hi cmvo [07:01] Hi! I finaly got a usefull debdiff. I sent it to your ubuntu email address. [07:01] great, thanks :) [07:01] we just need to find some testers === hunger can test. [07:03] If you do not mind me testing on dapper with kde 3.5 beta that is. [07:03] hunger: you'll have to recompile all of kdebase too [07:04] Riddell: That is not too stable here at the moment anyway... I don't mind doing that if it is painless. === hunger wonders what he volunteered for:-) [07:04] hunger: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kdebase_3.4.3_0ubuntu5.debdiff [07:04] What do I do with a debdiff? [07:05] you'llprobably need to just apply that by hand against 3.5 [07:05] make sure you have 3.5 deb-src in sources.list [07:05] apt-get source kdebase [07:05] cd kdebase [07:05] apply patch by hand [07:06] apt-get build-dep kdebase && debuild [07:06] go for walk [07:06] cd .. [07:06] dpkg --install kdebase-bin*deb [07:06] Riddell Sounds easy... [07:06] hunger: do ou currenly have the admin problem?[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D [07:08] Riddell: Dunno. What is the admin problem? [07:08] hunger: the kdesu bug [07:11] hunger: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8681 === verwilst [n=verwilst@dD5E00BC6.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A62649.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:12] Sorry... lost my connection. [07:12] What is the admin problem? [07:12] 18:08 < jpatrick> hunger: the kdesu bug [07:12] 18:10 < jpatrick> hunger: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8681 [07:13] hellow guys! [07:13] verwilst: hello [07:14] I guess so... [07:14] ** #ubz for conference discussion [07:15] anyone seen jjesse ? [07:15] Works for me... [07:15] not recently [07:15] I do not have the kdesu bug (at least not for kdm). [07:15] hunger: well if you want to compile them anyway that would be cool for giving to other people who are testing [07:16] I want to start on the docs [07:16] Riddell: I can compile the stuff, no problem. [07:16] emailed him a week ago === kkasina [n=ken@212.165.134.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kkasina [n=ken@212.165.134.38] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [07:19] Riddell: http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kunterbuntu-livecd-3.5b2-i386-de-7.iso :) [07:20] Riddell: Patch applies cleanly (apart from the changelog entry.) [07:20] amu: ooh? what's on that? [07:20] kunterbuntu sounds quite bad in english [07:20] kunterbuntu? [07:20] then again kubuntu sounds bad in portgese and malasian [07:20] it breezy with 3.5b2, desktop comes without questions and just starts in german [07:21] Riddell: Aehm... how was that build command again? [07:21] (k)ubuntu already sounds strange for most people [07:21] _always_ i hear "what? mobutu?" [07:21] 18:05 < Riddell> make sure you have 3.5 deb-src in sources.list [07:21] 18:05 < Riddell> apt-get source kdebase [07:21] 18:05 < Riddell> cd kdebase [07:21] 18:05 < Riddell> apply patch by hand [07:21] 18:06 < Riddell> apt-get build-dep kdebase && debuild [07:21] 18:06 < Riddell> go for walk [07:21] 18:06 < Riddell> cd .. [07:21] 18:06 < Riddell> dpkg --install kdebase-bin*deb [07:21] Aehm... yes. [07:21] Riddell, building kdelibs with debug ;) [07:21] only added debug to the DEB_OPTION thingy [07:22] and checking if it works [07:22] amu: what does the name mean? [07:22] something like : "all in a tumble"untu [07:22] Wow... lots of builddebs on that one... [07:26] amu: want me to announce it on kubuntu.org? [07:27] Does fakeroot not work for building kde debs? === hunger_ is now known as hunger === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:27] hunger_: fakeroot is required [07:27] Riddell: thx, no need, ... it's only an upgrade and the first image, i need some re: from the germans ... [07:28] Riddell: "fakeroot debuild" stops... [07:28] hunger: just run debuild [07:28] it should call fakeroot for you [07:29] Oh... always used dpkg-buildpackage so far. [07:30] OK, building. [07:30] debuild calls dpkg-buildpackage but has some extra checks [07:30] Riddell: makes more sense if i build in feature different isos with differents lang presetuped, the boot is much more faster, and if the desktop comes up without questions, looks much more better than before [07:30] amu: how do you getit without questions? [07:31] added it to "syslinux append [07:32] clever [07:32] we should adapt the gnome live cd scripts to kde [07:32] allready done :) it works but not too smart :) [07:33] Riddell: Will kde 3.5beta make it into dapper soon? [07:33] in generall i miss some error exceptions, and the cleanup isnt well done [07:33] hunger: probably after the conference [07:33] so week after next [07:33] Riddell: I am building with the dapper toolchain... might that cause problems with the other stuff that is breezy? [07:34] Riddell: Yeap, thought so already. [07:34] hunger: yes it will [07:34] Riddell: So should I start with qt, kdelibs, ... [07:35] hunger: no, use a breezy chroot [07:35] Riddell: Riddell: Nah... I do not have the hdd space for that. [07:37] Riddell: This is a tiny little laptop I got here. === amu goes into weekend happy hacking! === hunger stops the build. No use building something that is known to not work:-( === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:55] 20M kdelibs4c2-dbg_3.4.92-0ubuntu2_i386.deb [08:55] Got to go. Cuagn === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.27] has joined #kubuntu-devel === olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-157-212-34.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:33] cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.la': No such file or directory [09:33] dh_install: command returned error code 256 [09:33] any idea? :$ [09:33] kdebase :$ [09:34] verwilst: what sources? [09:34] kdebase i guess [09:38] but which version [09:38] and compiled on what [09:38] .la files can usually be ignored [09:41] what are .la's? [09:41] libtool library files? [09:41] libtool thingies [09:57] Riddell, 3.5beta2 [09:57] just apt-get sourced it [09:57] added debug to debian/rules [09:57] and debuild [09:58] and it gives me this error near the end :( [09:58] verwilst: remove that files from debian/*install [10:02] debuild -nc to restart [10:02] without clearing [10:02] but why doesn't the non-debug install complain? [10:02] hehe i know ;) [10:02] already doing that === Mez [n=Mez@mobileweb02.london.02.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:22] what should I talk about in my kubuntu talk? [10:22] Kubuntu Forums [10:23] what to say about them? [10:23] :| [10:24] I should just make a straight line with my mout? [10:24] mouth === CaiN_SA [n=cain@66.103.220.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:27] Mez: new k3b out [10:27] hi CaiN_SA, where are you? [10:27] in the hotel :) [10:28] but where? it's a big hotel [10:28] lol [10:28] room 504 [10:29] anything exciting happening up there? [10:29] you ? [10:29] nope [10:29] where you now ? [10:29] in my room, 332, trying to think what to say in my talk [10:29] ah ok [10:29] you sitting in your room / [10:30] ? [10:30] yes [10:30] ah ok [10:30] come down and tell me what to say [10:31] you went round town yet ? [10:31] lol kk [10:31] ross is rubbish talker [10:31] he will :P [10:31] be there in little while === jpatrick can't download the new K3b source [10:36] Mez: what' happening with backports? [10:37] jpatrick: hmm, it's not on the download page [10:39] k comming Riddell === CaiN_SA [n=cain@66.103.220.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:52] cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.so': No such file or directory [10:52] wtf [11:04] bleh how come these files aren't there? :( [11:11] btw is there a deb for kdevelop 3.3beta2? ;) === Mez [n=Mez@mobileweb02.london.02.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62C31.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-141-194.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:46] That was strange. I had trouble running Adept. First it complained about not being able to talk to the DCOP server, and then [11:47] Adept appeared with the wrong widget style. I turned it off. Ran kbuildsyscoa, and tried again. Then everything went ok. [11:47] ksyscoca problem in breezy?? === jjesse [i=user@69-87-141-194.async.iserv.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [11:51] kdesu maybe [11:51] Sime: can you run kcontrol modules as admin? [11:52] Riddell: don't think so. A ksudo dialog didn't appear.... [11:52] Riddell: system services just worked normally. Users&Group didn't... [11:53] Riddell: ok, now User&Groups is working too. [11:54] spooky