[12:02] <seth_k|lappy> no log afaik
[12:03] <seth_k|lappy> thanks eGaTS, one sec
[12:03] <nalioth> seth_k|lappy: there is one, i just cant remrmebere where
[12:04] <nalioth> eGaTS: open a term and type "locate dpkg.log"
[12:04] <eGaTS> seth_k|lappy: i also found some other lines: "I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum"
[12:04] <eGaTS> seth_k|lappy: and "I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed."
[12:05] <seth_k|lappy> okay eGaTS, start by adding these two lines in the "Monitor" section of xorg.conf
[12:05] <seth_k|lappy> nalioth, aptitude keeps a log, but adept afaik doesn't
[12:06] <seth_k|lappy> eGaTS:
[12:06] <seth_k|lappy> HorizSync 30-70
[12:06] <nalioth> seth_k|lappy: dpkg (which is called by all apt programs) keeps a log
[12:06] <seth_k|lappy> VertRefresh 50-120
[12:07] <seth_k|lappy> eGaTS, then scroll down a bit and make sure you have 1024x768 as an option for each mode
[12:07] <eGaTS> seth_k|lappy: ok, it says i removed klaptopdaemon and lm-sensors
[12:08] <seth_k|lappy>  /var/log/dpkg.log, yeah
[12:08] <seth_k|lappy> yes, those shouldn't matter
[12:08] <seth_k|lappy> try adding those two lines and restarting X
[12:09] <eGaTS> how do i restart X? do i have to reboot?
[12:09] <Blissex> eGaTS: you can just do CTRL-ALT-Backspace
[12:10] <seth_k|lappy> but that will kill everything
[12:10] <seth_k|lappy> so close open work first
[12:10] <seth_k|lappy> and save your documents
[12:11] <johnsbil> Norway calling: I have to edit the sourcelist, but when I can not enter the system as root, I'm not able to edit. Do I have to do the operation in shell? 
[12:14] <seth_k|lappy> johnsbil, in terminal: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:15] <seth_k|lappy> it will ask for your (user) password
[12:15] <johnsbil> What does kdesu kate means?
[12:15] <seth_k|lappy> kdesu = the KDE superuser privilege escalator thingy
[12:16] <seth_k|lappy> kate = a text editor
[12:16] <johnsbil> ok that means that I will open that file in that way?
[12:16] <seth_k|lappy> yes, that's correct
[12:16] <nalioth> johnsbil: means you will open the file with superuser priveleges, yes
[12:19] <Xirdneh> hi there... another question yet... im trying to install the libdvdcss downloaded from the VLC page the thing is that I type ./configure and then make... but says bash: make: command not found... wtf?
[12:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Xirdneh about libdvdcss2
[12:19] <Head_Fi> hello
[12:19] <Xirdneh> ubotu, huh?
[12:19] <ubotu> !find test
[12:19] <Head_Fi> anyone can tell me wassup with alsaconf not being on kubuntu? 
[12:20] <Head_Fi> I think I  used to have it b4
[12:20] <Head_Fi> but not anymore
[12:20] <johnsbil> thanks... it works
[12:21] <Head_Fi> anybody can help me?
[12:23] <Head_Fi> hello
[12:25] <Head_Fi> ?
[12:25] <Head_Fi> alsaconf?
[12:29] <eGaTS> seth_k|lappy: it booted to a command prompt, so i commented those lines back out, and somehow it fixed itself
[12:30] <seth_k|lappy> eGaTS, bah. It can't handle that synch rate then.
[12:31] <seth_k|lappy> Possibly a bug in the i810 stuff
[12:31] <seth_k|lappy> no more ideas from me, though :(
[12:31] <eGaTS> but everything's back to normal now
[12:31] <eGaTS> it fixed itself
[12:32] <eGaTS> is there a guide to go through and streamline the boot process?
[12:33] <eGaTS> cuz it was doing alot of unneccessary stuff, like looking up the time from an ntp server, and "checking the battery" (even though i removed the laptop packages)
[12:34] <Blissex> eGaTS: lets say it is a very complex issue.
[12:35] <eGaTS> Blissex: that's what i thought. can you point me somewhere so i can read up on it?
[12:38] <stbain> eGaTS: under the system settings option off the main K menu, choose "System Services"
[12:38] <stbain> you can control them from there
[12:40] <eGaTS> cool :)
[12:42] <Blissex> eGaTS: there are several faster/better boot systems, as people have been complaining a lot about boot times. Look for something like ''alternative/parallel/dependency based init''.
[12:43] <Blissex> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/From-PowerUp-To-Bash-Prompt-HOWTO.html
[12:43] <Blissex> http://www.winterdrache.de/linux/newboot/
[12:44] <Blissex> http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=4711&offset=30&rows=45
[12:44] <eGaTS> Blissex: i did read about initNG, but for right now, i'd just like to disable the things i don't need. the System services module is all greyed out though.
[12:45] <Blissex> http://linuxfinances.info/info/init.html
[12:45] <wasp_ems> if a program has crashed how do i close it?
[12:45] <Blissex> eGaTS: look at 'man update-rc.d'
[12:46] <eGaTS> Blissex: when i went to user management, it popped up a dialog box complaining about inter-process communications and dcopserver
[12:46] <Blissex> eGaTS: that means your KDE session is a bit screwed up, nothing to do with boot.
[12:47] <wasp_ems> ???
[12:48] <eGaTS> Blissex: i'll say. something is still broken.
[12:48] <Blissex> wasp_ems: sometimes you cannot. Try using the close-window button on the window.
[12:49] <wasp_ems> it does not work..
[12:49] <Blissex> wasp_ems: then probably you are stuck.
[12:49] <Blissex> wasp_ems: try to kill the associated process... But sometimes that does not destroy the related window.
[12:50] <wasp_ems> i went to upgrade to breeze but i am still waiting for packages...3hours have gone by..so i guess it is crushed
[12:53] <wasp_ems> i cant access my external hard drive neither in linux nor in windows..in windows it says not formated, format now??anyone know what i can do to access and save my data?
[12:56] <wasp_ems> ???
[12:58] <tarheelcoxn> wasp_ems: you have access to another computer?
[12:58] <wasp_ems> yes
[12:58] <tarheelcoxn> wasp_ems: burn yourself a liveCD
[12:58] <wasp_ems> of linux?
[12:58] <tarheelcoxn> correct
[12:59] <tarheelcoxn> you can use that to fix whatever you busted
[12:59] <wasp_ems> how exactly?
[12:59] <tarheelcoxn> wasp_ems: what's busted?
[12:59] <wasp_ems> i dont know..i cant access my external hardrive
[12:59] <wasp_ems> in windows it says not formated..format now?
[01:00] <wasp_ems> in linux it cannot mount
[01:00] <tarheelcoxn> wasp_ems: is it in your /etc/fstab?
[01:00] <wasp_ems> ?
[01:01] <tarheelcoxn> does the external drive have an entry in /etc/fstab
[01:01] <tarheelcoxn> eg. /dev/sda1
[01:02] <wasp_ems> dont knwo
[01:02] <wasp_ems> know
[01:03] <crimsun> open a Konsole, and type: mount
[01:03] <wasp_ems> ok
[01:03] <wasp_ems> this comes up
[01:03] <wasp_ems> /dev/hda2 on / type ext2 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[01:03] <wasp_ems> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[01:03] <wasp_ems> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[01:03] <wasp_ems> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[01:03] <wasp_ems> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[01:03] <wasp_ems> /dev/hda1 on /media/51 GB Disk (hda1) type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[01:03] <wasp_ems> /dev on /.dev type unknown (rw,bind)
[01:03] <wasp_ems> none on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=5M,mode=0755)
[01:03] <wasp_ems> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[01:04] <tarheelcoxn> wasp_ems: don't paste in here
[01:04] <tarheelcoxn> use the paster
[01:04] <wasp_ems> which paster?
[01:04] <tarheelcoxn> !paste
[01:04] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:06] <wasp_ems> anyway..can you help in solving my problem?
[01:06] <tarheelcoxn> so your only problem is that you can't mount this external drive?
[01:06] <wasp_ems> i cant access it
[01:06] <tarheelcoxn> and it's a usb drive?
[01:06] <wasp_ems> cant get any data out of it
[01:06] <wasp_ems> yes
[01:08] <wasp_ems> well?
[01:09] <tarheelcoxn> I'm on the phone
[01:09] <tarheelcoxn> sorry
[01:09] <wasp_ems> ok
[01:10] <wasp_ems> back in 2
[01:17] <CzarAlex> when i hit printscreen...where does the screen shot go? a file? the clipboard?
[01:18] <Riddell> CzarAlex: printscreen doesn't do anything as far as I know
[01:18] <CzarAlex> Riddell, oh hm...how can I get a screen shot of my desktop to show off?
[01:18] <Riddell> CzarAlex: ksnapshot
[01:19] <StR> Hi all
[01:20] <StR> Does anyone have problems with the RSS reader from kontanct? in kde 3.5b2?
[01:20] <seth_k|lappy> StR, yeah, I get an error about feeds not being cached
[01:20] <seth_k|lappy> Akregator still worked tho
[01:21] <StR> seth_k|lappy: yes, but everytime i start it, all rss are downloaded again, and not marketd which ones I already read
[01:23] <NeoFax12> Anyone know how to change card1 in ALSA to card0 for Breezy?
[01:24] <manveru_> woot... kmail is really intelligent :)
[01:24] <NeoFax12> I am assuming it is either a hotplug rule or udev rule
[01:24] <manveru_> i just wanted to send a mail and it noticed that i didn't have an attachement, but mentioned one in the body...
[01:25] <manveru_> linux never ceases to surprise me...
[01:27] <tarheelcoxn> manveru_: daaaaamn. that's hot
[01:27] <manveru_> yeah, if only every mail-program would ask... i hate people who send a message twice because they forgot the attachment...
[01:27] <manveru_> but well, was just about to make the same mistake
[01:29] <crimsun> NeoFax12: I'm not sure what infrastructure KDE provides for easy switching, but you can always override it in the KDE controls
[01:30] <tarheelcoxn> what happened to that wasp_ems person?
[01:30] <tarheelcoxn> must not've been that urgent
[01:30] <crimsun> 18:19 -!- wasp_ems [n=wasp@82-33-121-129.cable.ubr07.azte.blueyonder.co.uk]  has
[01:30] <crimsun>           quit [Remote closed the connection] 
[01:30] <Blissex> NeoFax12: the module option 'index='
[01:30] <tarheelcoxn> harumph
[01:31] <NeoFax12> Blissex: In udev or hotplug?
[01:31] <Blissex> NeoFax12: in whatever module options file you got...
[01:31] <marteus> use glxgears -printfps
[01:31] <crimsun> duh
[01:31] <crimsun> it's actually a lot simpler
[01:32] <NeoFax12> Blissex: Kubuntu Breezy uses udev and hotplug, not modules.d
[01:32] <crimsun> NeoFax12: we use modprobe.d, too
[01:32] <crimsun> NeoFax12: the simple solution is to create an ~/.asoundrc that contains the "defaults.pcm.card X" line
[01:32] <NeoFax12> Not for ALSA, for mousedev and keyboard
[01:33] <crimsun> we use it for ALSA, too.
[01:33] <crimsun> cf. /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[01:33] <crimsun> change X to the value of the card you wish to use, then restart arts and/or your ALSA applications
[01:33] <NeoFax12> crimsun: That will swap card1 to card0? or just change card1 to default?  Will it also change the /dev/dsp?
[01:34] <crimsun> it changes the "default" override
[01:34] <crimsun> it's precisely what Martin added for Ubuntu
[01:34] <izut> Is KDE moving to gstreamer? Or is just a Kubuntu thing?
[01:34] <NeoFax12> Thanks! I will work on that right now.  I have been beating my head on the wall reading udev rules and hotplug
[01:34] <crimsun> NeoFax12: you were barking up the wrong tree. Neither have anything to do with this.
[01:34] <manveru_> izut: everything is moving to gstreamer
[01:35] <NeoFax12> izut: KDE is moving to akode which can harness gstreamer/NAS/NMM...
[01:35] <izut> Ok :) I remember Hoary was using akode.
[01:35] <manveru_> what's about the new arts btw?
[01:36] <flixor> guys is there anybody who is good with fetchmail and procmail
[01:36] <manveru_> anything known about it?
[01:36] <izut> Btw, there are any way to disable the rounded corners of selected icon text on konqueror?
[01:37] <Blissex> izut: change the QT/KDE theme relevant to that.
[01:38] <NeoFax12> install sound-slot-0 modprobe snd-card-0  NL: install sound-slot-1 modprobe snd-card-1
[01:39] <NeoFax12> crimsun: I really don't understand the change X to the value of the card.  In my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base it just says 
[01:39] <crimsun> NeoFax12: don't touch /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[01:39] <crimsun> NeoFax12: you're changing ~/.asoundrc
[01:39] <crimsun> Ubuntu has a tool called set-default-soundcard that writes an ~/.asoundrc
[01:39] <NeoFax12> OK, thanks again.  Where would I find a tutorial on writing this file?
[01:39] <izut> Blissex: You know when you open konqueror and browse to you home, then select the Desktop directory? In other KDE versions the text is highlited with a square, now it is like Nautilus, rounded corner. I want to disable that.
[01:39] <crimsun> the contents are:
[01:40] <crimsun> defaults.pcm.card 0
[01:40] <flixor> LOGVERBOSE=yes
[01:40] <flixor> sorry 
[01:40] <crimsun> I have 3 sound chipsets, so I can use a drop-down menu to select between them
[01:40] <crimsun> each saved change results in a value between 0 and 2 inclusive being written to ~/.asoundrc
[01:41] <NeoFax12> Thanks that worked
[01:41] <crimsun> NeoFax12: the set-default-soundcard script is included in our alsa-utils package
[01:41] <NeoFax12> I used set-default-soundcard 1 to switch 1 to 0
[01:42] <crimsun> I imagine it would not take much work to integrate it into KDE if it hasn't already been
[01:42] <crimsun> right, and that could be hooked into the control center pretty easily
[01:42] <NeoFax12> It could be wrapped by Kaptain as I understand that to be like zenity is for GNOME
[01:43] <NeoFax12> Maybe something to ask the guidance people?
[01:43] <crimsun> nah, you want that functionality pushed into the control center
[01:44] <NeoFax12> Guidance is as of breezy
[01:45] <NeoFax12> Anyone know when I will be able to use Nerim's apt repo again?
[01:47] <nalioth> NeoFax12: never for binaries
[01:47] <nalioth> NeoFax12: debian binaries are not a wise choice for ubuntu
[01:47] <NeoFax12> Does it have a source repo?
[01:47] <nalioth> NeoFax12: i believe it does
[01:48] <nalioth> debian source repos are the safest way to go to use debian stuff on ubuntu
[01:48] <nalioth> letting apt-get build you a pkgs is a good idea
[01:48] <NeoFax12> Or, does apt have the capability of compiling a deb-src based off of a req by another repo?
[01:48] <nalioth> NeoFax12: ya lost me
[01:49] <crimsun> you wouldn't compile a deb-src, you'd compile a deb.
[01:49] <crimsun> the source is pulled from the deb-src reference
[01:49] <crimsun> the build-dependencies of the source are pulled from deb
[01:49] <NeoFax12> OK, Nerim's repo requires lib6.12.2 but kubuntu has lib6.12.1 can apt say the source is out there, let me compile it to satisfy the req?
[01:50] <nalioth> NeoFax12: what program are you compiling?
[01:50] <crimsun> that's a runtime shlibs dep
[01:50] <NeoFax12> crimsun: True, but I was using that for illustrative purposes.
[01:50] <crimsun> you just need libc6-dev installed
[01:50] <NeoFax12> MEncoder is what I want.
[01:50] <crimsun> grab it from multiverse
[01:50] <NeoFax12> I have Mplayer CVS with gtk2 thanks to the forums.
[01:51] <crimsun> that's easy
[01:51] <crimsun> enable multiverse, then apt-get build-dep mplayer-586
[01:51] <JabbaHut> Would Kubuntu run "well" on my Thinkpad 600x 650/P3?
[01:51] <NeoFax12> So, just comment out Nerim's repo and it will grab that from multiverse?
[01:51] <nalioth> enable universe, while you're at it
[01:51] <crimsun> or rather, apt-get build-dep mencoder-586
[01:52] <crimsun> JabbaHut: how much RAM? >128 ?
[01:52] <NeoFax12> I have universe and multiverse already, but Nerim's is a higher build
[01:52] <JabbaHut> crimsun, 259 meg
[01:52] <crimsun> a higher build of what?
[01:52] <JabbaHut> 256
[01:52] <flixor> hya crimsun are you good with fetchmail en procmail 
[01:52] <crimsun> JabbaHut: it'll do just fine
[01:52] <nalioth> NeoFax12: NeoFax12 blah! if you want cutting edge, get the source from mplayer cvs
[01:52] <crimsun> flixor: no
[01:52] <NeoFax12> Both Mencoder and Mplaer
[01:53] <crimsun> NeoFax12: if you have the source already, then just check that you've installed all the build-deps listed in debian/control:Build-Depends
[01:53] <NeoFax12> nalioth: Would if I knew how to build a "sanctified" Kubuntu deb with it.
[01:53] <crimsun> apt-get build-dep mencoder-586 should cover it
[01:53] <nalioth> NeoFax12: what crimsun says
[01:53] <flixor> thanks anyway crimsun 
[01:54] <nalioth> i fail to see the fascination with "latest and greatest" i like stability in my box
[01:55] <NeoFax12> nalioth: I like MPlayer with a GTK2 build to make it look like it fits.  Just personal thing.  Just like I try to avoid none GTK/KDE style software. i.e. wxWidgets, FLTK...
[01:55] <crimsun> nalioth: it's always push-pull contention
[01:56] <crimsun> erm...wxwidgets is gtk+ 2-based
[01:56] <crimsun> I don't know of anyone who really prefers to compile wxwidgets against gtk+ or motif
[01:56] <NeoFax12> You know what I mean. ;^)
[01:57] <NeoFax12> Once the apt-get build-dep mencoder-586 is done. What do I do?
[01:58] <nalioth> NeoFax12: apt-get -b source mencoder
[01:58] <nalioth> NeoFax12: apt-get -b source mencoder-586
[02:12] <izut> Does kopete uses aspell to check spelling?
[02:16] <Sgep> Why isn't Kurso de Esperanto included in Kubuntu?
[02:26] <Riddell> Sgep: what is that?
[02:26] <Riddell> izut: it uses kspell (which uses aspell)
[02:28] <Sgep> A program to help people learn Esperanto
[02:28] <izut> Riddell: I use my system in English, but I want to use pt_BR spell checking... How can I do that?
[02:30] <ku_dude> Hello folks..
[02:30] <ku_dude> anybody here knows what GUI-based utility in Gnome there is to mount a FAT drive as writable?
[02:31] <ku_dude> anybody?
[02:31] <Riddell> Sgep: add it to UniverseCandidates
[02:32] <Riddell> izut: I'm not sure im' afraid
[02:32] <sproingie> not too many people here in *K*ubuntu that would know
[02:32] <Riddell> ku_dude: wrong channel
[02:32] <ku_dude> Riddell: how you mean wrong channel? You mean I should be in Kubuntu?
[02:32] <ku_dude> mmm #ubuntu right?
[02:33] <Riddell> yes
[02:33] <ku_dude> ok i'll try. thanks.
[02:42] <avb> is anyone use kde 3.5b2?
[02:43] <avb> i read that there are a lots of errors in this build
[02:43] <avb> they are still not fixed?
[02:44] <izut> Do you know how to display the Luxi font correctly?
[02:44] <Riddell> avb: it is beta
[02:45] <izut> brb
[02:45] <avb> Riddell: yeh, i know. but usually kde betas works very stable
[02:45] <Sgep> Riddell: 
[02:45] <Sgep> How?
[02:46] <Riddell> Sgep: how which?
[02:46] <Riddell> avb: arts crashes, akregator has issues, file manager tooltips crash konqueror.  otherwise I'm using it fine
[02:47] <Sgep> How to add it to UniverseCandidates
[02:48] <Sgep> hi claydoh and acasto 
[02:48] <acasto> hi Sgep 
[02:48] <claydoh> hello Sgep 
[02:49] <propagandhi> does anyone know of a download location for The Code video
[02:49] <acasto> kubuntu is pretty nice
[02:50] <izut> Back :)
[02:50] <acasto> i'm just trying the livecd
[02:50] <izut> So, any tip for Luxi font?
[02:52] <Xirdneh> hi there... i have a Dell Laptop... the thing is ... anybody here know how to enable my volume controls?... i mean the buttons that i have on the Laptop +Volume and -Volume... also the mute button they worked in GNome... any ideas ?
[02:53] <izut> Try assign the shortcut in System Settings.
[02:58] <propagandhi> check this out http://www.parascope.com/mx/articles/godin.htm
[02:58] <Sgep> Does kubuntu come with an installed command-line mp3 player?
[03:02] <Sgep> hi aseigo_home 
[03:03] <Sgep> Adept froze and I killed it with Ctrl-Alt-Esc
[03:03] <Sgep> How do I unlock the db thingy?
[03:06] <aseigo> Sgep: apt-get clean? 
[03:06] <Armagguedes> hello
[03:07] <Armagguedes> how can i type using jaipanese characters?
[03:07] <Sgep> ty
[03:07] <Sgep> hi H
[03:09] <kairu0> hey all
[03:10] <kairu0> is the admin mode problem fixed in kde 3.5 beta 2?
[03:11] <Armagguedes> kairu0 are you talking about the admin mode button bug?
[03:11] <Armagguedes> i *think* it was fixed, but look at what cost
[03:11] <Armagguedes> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuKDE35BetaKnownProblems
[03:12] <kairu0> Armagguedes, yes
[03:12] <Armagguedes> b1 had a couple glitches, b2 could be KDE v0.0.0.0.0.0.1 alpha for all i care
[03:13] <Armagguedes> i'm annoyed by that bug too, but looking at the bug list for kde3.5b2, i'm definetely waiting for progress
[03:13] <kairu0> any other bugs plaguing you?
[03:15] <Armagguedes> i cant get the wifi to work, but i suspect its more a case of PEBKAC than anything else.
[03:16] <Armagguedes> but as far as i can remember, the admin buttan is the only significant bug
[03:16] <Armagguedes> just do SUDO KCONTROL at the konsole
[03:16] <kairu0> my wifi works fine
[03:16] <kairu0> with ndiswrapper that is
[03:17] <bleach> Need some help.  Up boot of breezy the routing table does not have a default route.  I have tried several time entering the route in Network Setting under the Routes tap for the correct interface.
[03:18] <propagandhi> bleach: have u edited /etc/network/interfaces
[03:18] <bleach> yep, tried just manually entering the values there, still don't get a default route.
[03:20] <Armagguedes> auto eth0
[03:20] <Armagguedes> iface eth0 inet **
[03:20] <Armagguedes> where ** is dhcp or static
[03:20] <bleach> Can you make a gw/default in the interfaces file?
[03:20] <propagandhi> bleach: how about pasting your interfaces file in the pastebin
[03:20] <bleach> yep, have iface eth0 inet static and auto eth0
[03:20] <Armagguedes> if indeed you want static, then afterwards add the ipaddress gateway etc fields
[03:21] <Fackamato> hi from a slackware user
[03:21] <Fackamato> :>
[03:21] <Armagguedes> i have these fields
[03:21] <bleach> yep, static is correct.
[03:21] <propagandhi> Fackamato: hi
[03:21] <Armagguedes> hostname address netmask gateway dns
[03:22] <Knowerrors> Hi all, In konqueror, you can hover over forum post links to get a popup summary at cursor of the message... is there any way to make that popup stay longer?
[03:22] <bleach> ok, I'll try the gateway entry... i presume it is just "gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" yes?
[03:23] <Armagguedes> yeas
[03:23] <Armagguedes> after each of those fields u type an ip and then return
[03:23] <bleach> OK, thanks, will give that a try.
[03:24] <hydrogen> does the qt-designer load properly for anyone else here?
[03:24] <hydrogen> cause its rendering horribly for me
[03:26] <Knowerrors> nevermind, I was moving the pointer slightly, popup stays now
[03:34] <Armagguedes> soooo. any ideas on how i can switch to writting in japanese characters yet?
[03:35] <Armagguedes> winxp used the alt-shit and alt-~ (or \, depends) to switch
[03:35] <propagandhi> Armagguedes: you want to just randomly switch with a keyboard shortcut?
[03:36] <kairu0> in kubuntu this time hehe
[03:37] <propagandhi> kairu0: yes we see that
[03:37] <kairu0> oh ok hehe
[03:38] <propagandhi> -> kairu0 has joined kubuntu	
[03:38] <propagandhi> kairu0 is back	
[03:38] <propagandhi> kairu0	in kubuntu this time hehe
[03:38] <kairu0> oops i mean i rebooted into kubuntu
[03:38] <propagandhi> talk about an entrance
[03:38] <kairu0> not #kubuntu
[03:40] <kairu0> i want to tweak my kubuntu boot
[03:40] <kairu0> it takes about 79 seconds right now
[03:40] <kairu0> i disabled mdadm and mdadm-raid
[03:40] <kairu0> what else can i do
[03:41] <Armagguedes> propagandhi im not sure
[03:41] <Armagguedes> in XP all i had to do was to hit ctrl-shift and i would begin typing in japanese characters
[03:42] <Armagguedes> but using the vocal layout of my keyboard
[03:42] <Armagguedes> (in other words, A E I O U would remain like so)
[03:42] <Armagguedes> instead of a key shuffle
[03:43] <kairu0> thats funny i just wrote a howto about japanese support with scim
[03:43] <regeya> how amusing.
[03:44] <regeya> kairu0: if you're brave, you could use init-ng.  not recommended by me, though I did use it on a gentoo installation.
[03:45] <kairu0> i tried that once. i couldnt make it work
[03:45] <Armagguedes> kairu0 where can i read this howto
[03:47] <kairu0> Armagguedes, http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?topic=1181.from1130549062;topicseen#msg4546
[03:48] <Armagguedes> awesome
[03:48] <Armagguedes> ok tks
[03:49] <kairu0> yup
[03:49] <luisito> hi!
[03:49] <kairu0> hey
[03:52] <kairu0> anyone recommend a torrent client for kubuntu?
[03:53] <Fackamato> bittornado
[03:53] <luisito> how do I add a new style in kde?
[03:53] <Riddell> kairu0: have you tried skim?
[03:54] <kairu0> Riddell, yes
[03:55] <Riddell> kairu0: but your howto doesn't mention it?
[03:56] <kairu0> Riddell, only in the title cuz i prefer scim without skim
[03:57] <Riddell> ah, idn't know it worked without skim
[03:57] <Riddell> kairu0: what does skim add then?
[03:57] <orugo> hey
[03:57] <orugo> i have a problem with divx on linux
[03:59] <kairu0> maybe he fixed it
[03:59] <Riddell> :)
[04:00] <kairu0> wow i'm loving kubuntu so far
[04:00] <kairu0> except my keymap problem
[04:00] <kairu0> cant type spanish accents
[04:01] <Riddell> keymap is the next big beastie I have to investigate
[04:01] <kairu0> you got a problem with it too?
[04:03] <Riddell> I can see that it doesn't work, I don't use it myself but it's an important feature
[04:03] <kairu0> i can type french accents but no spanish accents
[04:03] <Riddell> hmm
[04:04] <nalioth> kairu0: put the character map thing into your panel
[04:04] <nalioth> oh wait, that's a gnome thinkg
[04:05] <kairu0> thats too cumbersome anyway
[04:05] <kairu0> theres a key that does accents, but if i type a e with an acute accent, it looks like regular e
[04:16] <kairu0> any ktorrent users?
[04:17] <Armagguedes> pls dont speak of torrents
[04:18] <Armagguedes> now i cant find azureus in the repos
[04:18] <Armagguedes> and i couldnt isntall it from the website's dl gtk package
[04:20] <kairu0> i could
[04:20] <kairu0> but it bogs down my system
[04:22] <apokryphos> kairu0: sometimes, yes -- ktorrent's good.
[04:23] <kairu0> ok thnkx
[04:52] <Chiron> how do I enable eth0 and configure it with dhcp?
[04:52] <Chiron> I need to manually do this
[04:52] <stupendo44> are you in kubuntu? you have the gui?
[04:53] <Chiron> yeah
[04:54] <stupendo44> ok, should be Menu > System Settings > Network Settings
[04:54] <stupendo44> click Administrator Mode and type the password
[04:55] <stupendo44> then you should be able to configure it
[04:56] <Chiron> I can't see the button on the bottom
[04:56] <Chiron> the window is too big
[05:01] <Chiron> I only have a 1024X768 screen resolution
[05:05] <nalioth> !fixres
[05:05] <ubotu> I guess fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:08] <Chiron> it's a laptop
[05:08] <Chiron> I can't make it any higher
[05:15] <iceman> What do you use to install theme type files in Kubuntu .... 
[05:17] <luisito> nalioth, why the kubuntu runs in crtl+alt+F9 and not in F8?
[05:18] <nalioth> luisito: you'd have to ask the devs, why they chose that session
[05:19] <_david_> hi
[05:20] <luisito> nalioth, what I find is that now, with breezy the use of ubuntu and kubuntu at the same time seems to be more stable, to me...
[05:20] <nalioth> luisito: want to go for 3? try xubuntu at the same time :0
[05:21] <_david_> what's xubuntu?
[05:21] <nalioth> !xubuntu
[05:21] <ubotu> [xubuntu]  Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[05:21] <luisito> nalioth, I didn't know about that xubuntu..
[05:21] <luisito> interesting
[05:21] <_david_> what's the correct way to do things as root in kubuntu?
[05:22] <_david_> i need to load the modules for my sound card
[05:22] <iceman> whats application sets theme in kubuntu 
[05:22] <regeya> sudo -s
[05:22] <regeya> _david_: sudo
[05:22] <hydrogen> meh
[05:22] <hydrogen> sudo passwd root
[05:22] <hydrogen> su - 
[05:22] <nalioth> _david_: if you are working in the terminal, use sudo, if using a gui program, use kdesu
[05:23] <_david_> thanks
[05:23] <regeya> iceman: kcontrol
[05:23] <regeya> iceman: for some reason System Settings doesn't have 'Theme' listed
[05:24] <wotnarg> yuck, I had system settings
[05:24] <wotnarg> why didn't they leave kcontrol
[05:24] <wotnarg> much more powerful interface
[05:25] <iceman> regeya can you run that from a terminal 
[05:25] <hydrogen> you can still use kcontrol
[05:25] <hydrogen> alt-f2> kcontrol
[05:26] <wotnarg> yea, I do
[05:26] <wotnarg> :p
[05:26] <wotnarg> but its more effort
[05:26] <Riddell> wotnarg: how is kcontrol more powerful?
[05:27] <wotnarg> spawning windows makes it slower to change multiple settings
[05:27] <Riddell> what spawns windows?
[05:29] <stupendo44> plus the new kubuntu System Settings is buggy
[05:31] <kkathman> good evening all :)
[05:33] <nalioth> professor kkathman ! howdy
[05:33] <apokryphos> stupendo44: bugs you've reported, I take it.
[05:33] <stupendo44> uhh...
[05:33] <stupendo44> I've seen most of them already reported actually
[05:33] <orangey> stupendo44: what bugs?
[05:34] <apokryphos> like which ones?
[05:34] <orangey> it's not hard to believe there are bugs..
[05:34] <stupendo44> double-click an icon in System Settings, then resize the window. You can see icons behind it that you shouldn't. Only does it on double-click.
[05:35] <stupendo44> and Administrator Mode doesn't work half the time
[05:35] <stupendo44> and since my settings are to my preference of double-clicking icons, I would think that system settings respects those, but no.
[05:35] <apokryphos> stupendo44: I can't see the first bug you're talking about, and the second one isn't specific to systemsettings (kcontrol has it too -- it uses the exact same system)
[05:36] <stupendo44> I kinda figured that second one
[05:36] <apokryphos> stupendo44: errr, in kcontrol a double-click would bring about the same behaviour regardless of your settings
[05:36] <orangey> aah. I see what he's talking about.
[05:37] <stupendo44> apokryphos: what?
[05:37] <apokryphos> aha, I see it too with Font Installer double-click
[05:37] <orangey> apokryphos: yeah, the double click thing messes things up
[05:37] <apokryphos> stupendo44: which part was hard to understand?
[05:37] <orangey> interesting bug : )
[05:37] <kkathman> hey there nalioth...how are you tonight sir?
[05:37] <stupendo44> about double-clicking... I'm not sure which aprt you're refetting to.
[05:38] <nalioth> busy helping
[05:38] <kkathman> evenin apokryphos  :)
[05:38] <stupendo44> *referring
[05:38] <orangey> apokryphos: do you see his bug #1?
[05:38] <apokryphos> orangey: yes, I mentioned I did 8)
[05:38] <stupendo44> I meant that I would expect the icons in System Settings to require a double-click to open, but they open on a single click
[05:38] <apokryphos> kkathman: hey
[05:38] <orangey> apokryphos: You're not as easy to understand as you may believe : ) I was confused : )
[05:38] <apokryphos> stupendo44: you're saying systemsettings doesn't respect your double-click setting... but, kcontrol of course wouldn't as well
[05:39] <stupendo44> kcontrol has a different layout
[05:39] <stupendo44> kcontrol doesn't use the icons
[05:39] <apokryphos> orangey: forgive me for thinking I am; I'm talking standard English :P
[05:39] <apokryphos> stupendo44: well, it can, but sure -- it uses tree-view in Kubuntu by default.
[05:39] <orangey> oh yeah. Nobody has ever been misunderstood in standard english : )
[05:39] <stupendo44> oh, I see... I haven't seen that before
[05:40] <apokryphos> stupendo44: I prefer it -- something like View -> Icon Mode
[05:40] <stupendo44> I don't like having to go back and forth in subsections. That's why I like the tree view in kcontrol
[05:40] <apokryphos> whateveryourflavour
[05:41] <stupendo44> orangey: lol
[05:42] <orangey> stupendo44: this isn't a problem. This is open source software! If something doesn't match your preference, then change your preference!
[05:42] <stupendo44> I understand that. I wasn't saying it was a problem. I was just stating my preference
[05:43] <stupendo44> I'm actually suprised by the amount of flexibility in linux in general.
[05:43] <nalioth> stupendo44: you can make your linux do or look like anything you desire
[05:43] <stupendo44> I was just checking out koffice, and I find it very helpful that you can change any of the keyboard shortcuts that you want. Can't do that in windows
[05:43] <stupendo44> or at least it's significantly more difficult to do so...
[05:50] <kkathman> stupendo44: thats a fairly consistent capability in all KDE apps to my knowledge
[05:50] <stupendo44> it appears to be. very nice I say.
[05:50] <kkathman> yes it is
[06:26] <tarheelcoxn> how do I clone a user?
[06:26] <tarheelcoxn> in one command?
[06:29] <kkathman> in one command?
[06:29] <kkathman> hmm
[06:30] <tarheelcoxn> yeah
[06:30] <tarheelcoxn> I've cloned users by adding a user and then going back and adding that user to each group
[06:30] <tarheelcoxn> but that's a pain in the neck
[06:30] <tarheelcoxn> do I have to edit adduser.conf ?
[06:38] <tarheelcoxn> too late
[06:38] <tarheelcoxn> I bit the bullet and added the new user to all the groups
[06:38] <tarheelcoxn> le sigh
[06:41] <regeya> oy 
[06:41] <regeya> tarheelcoxn: way to make US feel silly
[06:42] <tarheelcoxn> regeya: :(
[06:42] <tarheelcoxn> sorry
[06:42] <kkathman> did you figure it out tarheelcoxn  :)
[06:43] <tarheelcoxn> kkathman: nope
[06:43] <tarheelcoxn> kkathman: I just added the new user to each group in turn
[06:43] <tarheelcoxn> I should write a script that does that or something
[06:43] <kkathman> should be able to
[06:44] <kkathman> ahh ok
[06:45] <tarheelcoxn> groups <user> spits out...
[06:45] <ashay> hello, I cant see the sidebar in Konqueror. using 5.10
 : <user> group0 group1 ... groupN
[06:46] <tarheelcoxn> now how do I chop that automatically so I get group0, group1, etc passed as arguments?
[06:48] <strike4ce> What is Xfree86 and why do I have to have it to install an ATI driver?
[06:49] <tarheelcoxn> strike4ce: who told you you have to have it?
[06:49] <tarheelcoxn> strike4ce: kubuntu comes with Xorg, the successor to Xfree86
[06:49] <strike4ce> Ati driver site
[06:49] <strike4ce> So xorg is better?
[06:49] <tarheelcoxn> newer
[06:49] <tarheelcoxn> mostly better, yes
[06:50] <strike4ce> So it works with the ATI driver from ATI site?
[06:50] <apokryphos> much better, yup
[06:50] <tarheelcoxn> strike4ce: should
[06:51] <tarheelcoxn> strike4ce: come back if you have trouble
[06:51] <strike4ce> ok so why when I install the xorg driver does it say mesa and that Im missing Xfree86?
[06:51] <strike4ce> !Xfree86
[06:51] <ubotu> strike4ce: I give up, what is it?
[06:52] <tarheelcoxn> strike4ce: because ATI's linux person must be lame
[06:52] <tarheelcoxn> strike4ce: have you looked in the wiki for your GPU?
[06:52] <kkathman> ubotu: Look it up man!!
[06:52] <ubotu> kkathman: I give up, what is it?
[06:52] <kkathman> geez he's low
[06:53] <strike4ce> rv350
[06:53] <kkathman> he needs more drive...or more beer
[06:53] <strike4ce> What wiki?
[06:53] <tarheelcoxn> !wiki
[06:53] <tarheelcoxn> hmmm
[06:53] <tarheelcoxn> !wiki xorg
[06:54] <strike4ce> !WIKI
[06:54] <tarheelcoxn> ahh
[06:54] <tarheelcoxn> !ati
[06:54] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:55] <tarheelcoxn> ta-da!
[06:58] <tarheelcoxn> strike4ce: let us know if that doesn't sort everything out
[06:58] <strike4ce> tarheelcoxn: I've used it before
[06:59] <tarheelcoxn> so that's a negative on the helpfulness?
[06:59] <kkathman> anyone here use Quanta?
[07:02] <strike4ce> tarheelcoxn: I want 3d can I get that with xorg?
[07:03] <strike4ce> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"
[07:05] <tarheelcoxn> strike4ce: you can
[07:05] <strike4ce> tarheelcoxn: i can what?
[07:06] <tarheelcoxn> get 3d
[07:06] <strike4ce> how
[07:06] <tarheelcoxn> good question... haven't messed with it myself
[07:06] <tarheelcoxn> since your question isn't kubuntu-specific, you might try asking in ubuntu
[07:06] <tarheelcoxn> err
[07:06] <tarheelcoxn> #ubuntu
[07:06] <tarheelcoxn> it's a busier channel
[07:06] <tarheelcoxn> might have somebody in there right now who can point you to the right resource
[07:08] <crimsun> strike4ce: that's not necessarily a "bad" thing
[07:18] <kkathman> strike4ce: http://public.kitware.com/pipermail/vtkusers/2004-May/074126.html
[07:18] <kkathman> strike4ce: always try Googling
[07:19] <kkathman> there are lots of other entries for this message
[07:20] <kkathman> strike4ce: here's another:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/33/2005/04/1/277294
[07:21] <strike4ce> kkathman: allthat does is remove the error message
[07:21] <kkathman> you read both of these?
[07:22] <kkathman> I just put "Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" in Google...quite a few entries..maybe one of those will help :)
[07:24] <iceman> Ok, where can you Add the god for saken themes from kde-look kubuntus theme manages sucks 
[07:24] <kkathman> iceman: depends on what you download...there are usually tips on how to install them on kde-look.org
[07:26] <kkathman> iceman: try and see if this comes up right on your system: http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=28
[07:26] <iceman> not anything i have seen, where to cut and paste the parts or a command line script  to install 
 Damn you wasted my time.  thanx shithead
[07:27] <Darklock> hope you guys can entertain him better ;)
[07:27] <iceman> the stupid files on kde-look a lot are not kcsrc file types .. thats the issue 
[07:28] <kkathman> yah thats true
[07:28] <strike4ce> darlock why dont you stop trolling me
[07:28] <kkathman> they are much harder to install
[07:29] <strike4ce> Im trying to get help and you continue to mess with me
[07:29] <strike4ce> damn
[07:30] <iceman> kkathman how to ... ? 
[07:31] <strike4ce> Anyone know how I can uninstall the restricted modules?
[07:34] <iceman> kkathman i been fighting these stupid file for days now... 
[07:37] <kkathman> iceman: some of those themes are easy to install, esp if they are kcsrc files. Some have to be configured and compiled
[07:37] <kkathman> most have some sort of instructions, or a link to the author who usually has something to say about installation
[07:37] <kkathman> but its time for me to goto bed...nighters :)
[07:38] <iceman> kkathman a how to on compiling them, or cut and past the part ... 
[07:42] <virtual> i'm having trouble installing the nvidia drivers on Kubuntu 5.10
[07:42] <virtual> i've tried all the guides, still no luck..,  anyone got the 'definitiva answer' ?
[07:42] <crimsun> virtual: are you following the directions on wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[07:43] <virtual> probably, i really dont remember
[07:43] <crimsun> "probably"?
[07:43] <virtual> i've been trying for the last 8 hours
[07:43] <crimsun> there are only two commands
[07:43] <crimsun> how could that take 8 hours?
[07:43] <virtual> what if.. lets say, thos 2 commands dont bring joy ?
[07:44] <strike4ce> what si the dpkg command?
[07:44] <strike4ce> is
[07:44] <strike4ce> !dpkg
[07:44] <crimsun> virtual: what two commands did you run?
[07:45] <virtual> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:46] <virtual> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:46] <virtual> here is the interesting bit
[07:47] <strike4ce> hmm  I installed the rpm file to desktop converted it with alien and installed it and I have no error message but no 3d???  its the official ati driver?
[07:48] <virtual> soz, had knock on door
[07:49] <virtual> the instructions are for ubuntu... i'm running kubuntu
[07:49] <crimsun> virtual: makes no difference
[07:49] <virtual> i realise theyre practicaly the same
[07:49] <virtual> so i followed the instructions, restarted KDE
[07:49] <virtual> still no hardware accellaration
[07:50] <crimsun> virtual: how did you restart KDE?
[07:50] <virtual> simple things like moving windows around is jerky
[07:50] <strike4ce> Ohh I should restart?
[07:50] <crimsun> strike4ce: why alien an rpm? You could have just followed wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:50] <virtual> ctrl+alt+backspace seems to work in kde
[07:50] <virtual> as it says it would for gnome
[07:51] <strike4ce> crimsun im using the official ati driver so I can get 3d capabilities
[07:51] <crimsun> ctrl+alt+bkspace kills the current X server
[07:51] <crimsun> strike4ce: ...did you follow BinaryDriverHowto?
[07:51] <strike4ce> crimsun: I have followed that before
[07:53] <crimsun> virtual: paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto pastebin
[07:55] <strike4ce> crimsun: Should I install the driver when X is stopped?
[07:56] <crimsun> strike4ce: did you follow the directions on the wiki pages?
[07:57] <virtual> done http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/409732
[07:58] <crimsun> virtual: you're using 'nv', not 'nvidia'
[07:59] <virtual> yes
[08:00] <crimsun> so fix it
[08:00] <virtual> i've installed vvidia drivers from nvidia.com on redhat, and edited xf config before, so i realise that and looked at my xf on Kubuntu
[08:00] <crimsun> and comment out Load "GLcore" and Load "dri"
[08:00] <virtual> saw after following the instructions that the nv line still existed
[08:01] <virtual> changed it to nvidia (along with the other suggested changes to the module section)
[08:01] <virtual> re-booted the machine, and x failed to start
[08:01] <crimsun> heh, I bet I know what you did, but paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf 
[08:01] <virtual> replaced my edited config with a backup i made earlier and was able to run KDE again
[08:03] <strike4ce> Crimsun I can onl get 3d with the official ATI drivers
[08:03] <crimsun> strike4ce: what version is that?
[08:03] <strike4ce> x.org 6.8.2
[08:04] <virtual> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/409733
[08:04] <virtual> ^^ my working config, with comments on the changes i made
[08:05] <strike4ce> oops 6.8.0.8.18.8.2
[08:05] <crimsun> virtual: so revert the changes you made and try again
[08:06] <virtual> i dont understand
[08:06] <crimsun> virtual: in other words, comment out Load "GLcore" and Load "dri", and change the driver from "nv" to "nvidia"
[08:06] <virtual> the changes i made stoped x from starting
[08:06] <virtual> ^^ those changes stoped x from starting
[08:06] <crimsun> yes, and I want you to save a backup copy of that log file
[08:06] <crimsun> I need to see precisely where it's failing
[08:07] <virtual> kk, ill be back
[08:07] <virtual> thanks
[08:07] <strike4ce> crimsun: you get that?
[08:08] <crimsun> strike4ce: yes, give me a sec
[08:09] <crimsun> strike4ce: so you have to use the newer driver? ok. Did you make the necessary changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[08:10] <strike4ce> I dont even know how to get there
[08:11] <crimsun> so you haven't edited it at all?
[08:11] <strike4ce> crimsun: How do i open that file?
[08:11] <crimsun> have you successfully installed the newer ATI drivers?
[08:11] <strike4ce> no
[08:11] <strike4ce> yes
[08:11] <strike4ce> and the Xfree86 missing line went away
[08:12] <strike4ce> Im so close lol
[08:13] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> [08:13]  [470]  #java ##java Forwarding to another channel
[08:13] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> [08:13]  [Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel
[08:13] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> what i can do to access that channel?
[08:14] <virtual> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/409735
[08:14] <virtual> ^^ the result of the offending xorg.conf
[08:15] <strike4ce> crimsun: Im sorry im new to linux
[08:16] <crimsun> Tallia1-KubuntuB: /msg nickserv help register
[08:16] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> i can't go in that chat
[08:16] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> the window don't open
[08:17] <crimsun> virtual: um.
[08:17] <crimsun> virtual: you told me you had read wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:17] <crimsun> virtual: now it appears that you didn't.
[08:17] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> crimsun: ? WHAT i can do?
[08:17] <virtual> i have, and others like it
[08:17] <virtual> and forum posts
[08:17] <crimsun> the very top of BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia is very clear:
[08:18] <crimsun> "*** *NOTE* There are now two nvidia binary drivers available. If you use the older TNT, TNT2, TNT Ultra, GeForce, and GeForce2 chipsets, install the legacy packages"
[08:18] <crimsun> and guess which glx package you installed?
[08:18] <virtual> probably both by now
[08:18] <tarheelcoxn> Tallia1-KubuntuB: what happens when you try /msg nickserv help register ?
[08:18] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> where? in freenode server?
[08:18] <crimsun> virtual: dpkg -l \*legacy\*|grep ^ii
[08:19] <tarheelcoxn> Tallia1-KubuntuB: you want to start a konversation with the nickserv bot
[08:19] <crimsun> Tallia1-KubuntuB: yes. type it.
[08:19] <tarheelcoxn> Tallia1-KubuntuB: /msg nickserv help register
[08:19] <strike4ce> Should I install fglrx dev files?
[08:19] <crimsun> strike4ce: got it working?
[08:19] <tarheelcoxn> should start that konversation
[08:19] <tarheelcoxn> and you should get helpful instructions on how to register
[08:20] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> crimsun: ok
[08:20] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> it seems to work
[08:20] <strike4ce> crimsun: no
[08:21] <virtual> ii  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-686-nvidia-legacy 2.6.12.4-11    Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV
[08:21] <virtual> output from your syntax  :
[08:21] <strike4ce> crimsun: Are you saying that if I follow that binaryhowto and use the drivers provided by kubuntu that I will have 3d or should have 3d?
[08:21] <crimsun> virtual: now you need to install nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:21] <virtual> according to Adept, the legacy package is no more
[08:23] <virtual> ok, now its installed again
[08:23] <virtual> just restart x now or somthing ?
[08:24] <virtual> any other config needed ?
[08:24] <strike4ce> crimsun: can I do fglrx config?
[08:28] <crimsun> virtual: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name '*nvidia*.ko'
[08:29] <crimsun> strike4ce: you should be able to follow the howto to get working hardware-accelerated 3D
[08:29] <Heinerich> hi there :)
[08:29] <crimsun> strike4ce: however, if you require the new drivers, just use 'em
[08:30] <virtual> crimsun: done, got 3 lines output
[08:30] <crimsun> virtual: and they are...?
[08:31] <virtual> /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko
[08:31] <virtual> /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko
[08:31] <virtual> /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/volatile/nvidia.ko
[08:32] <Heinerich> nvidia? worked for me after installing nvidia-glx out of the box.
[08:33] <crimsun> virtual: excellent.
[08:33] <crimsun> virtual: and you've installed nvidia-glx-legacy, correct?
[08:33] <virtual> yes
[08:34] <virtual> i used Adept to install it (it was onscreen at the time)
[08:34] <strike4ce> crimsun: Im going to follow the instructions.  Im going to uninstall the ATI driver, and start from scratch with the how to.  Does it matter that its old?  The howto is for hoary and warthog
[08:34] <crimsun> virtual: you need to uninstall nvidia-glx, however
[08:35] <crimsun> strike4ce: Hoary instructions work for Breezy
[08:35] <strike4ce> crimsun: Kubuntu breezy?
[08:35] <virtual> Adept reports nvidia-glx as 'not installed'
[08:35] <crimsun> strike4ce: correct
[08:36] <strike4ce> crimsun ok
[08:36] <virtual> and now reports nvidia-glx-legacy as 'installed'
[08:37] <crimsun> virtual: ok, now try using the nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:37] <virtual> then kill and restart X ?
[08:37] <crimsun> yes
[08:38] <virtual> brb
[08:38] <virtual> i should have bitchX installed
[08:40] <strike4ce> crimsun: brb
[08:40] <fujisan> How do i get and install mozzila?
[08:41] <fujisan> for kubuntu
[08:42] <virtual> crimsun: guess what ?
[08:43] <virtual> i still suck at tux racer  ;)
[08:43] <virtual> thanks for your help  ;)
[08:43] <fujisan> help me please virtual 
[08:43] <crimsun> np
[08:44] <fujisan> or crimsun 
[08:44] <crimsun> fujisan: install firefox
[08:44] <fujisan> i searched in adept and found a bunch of firefox and mozilla things but how do i know which one is the browser?
[08:44] <crimsun> fujisan: sudo aptitude install firefox
[08:44] <nalioth> fujisan: mozilla-firefox is the browser
[08:47] <fujisan> what does aptitude do..? apt-get=aptitude?
[08:47] <crimsun> aptitude is another program that uses libapt
[08:48] <Heinerich> wow, seems to rock :)
[08:48] <Heinerich> never tried this one before
[08:50] <fujisan> how do i get my board which i copy pasted things?
[08:51] <_liquidbinary_> hi!
[08:51] <nalioth> fujisan: aptitude is a console frontend to apt-get
[08:52] <fujisan> ok
[08:56] <Strike4ce> crimsun I screwed up lol When I uninstalled the official ati driver it did me in
[08:56] <Strike4ce> Doing a complete reinstall now
[08:56] <Strike4ce> 4th time I have did it this month
[08:57] <Strike4ce> u there crimsun?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> hey all, quick question.  is there anyway i can reinstall grub without having my install cd?  ie some way over the internet?  Boot floppy wont work - i have no floppy drive
[08:59] <Hobbsee> if not, it doesnt matter - i'll just reinstall grub when i get home again
[08:59] <Hobbsee> hey nalioth :)
[08:59] <Strike4ce> Is it bad to do alot of reinstalls?
[08:59] <nalioth> Hobbsee: howdy
[09:00] <Strike4ce> I keep messing up and I get directed to the dreaded black screen
[09:00] <tarheelcoxn> Strike4ce: are you leaving junk from previous installs sitting around?
[09:00] <Strike4ce> no, format the partitions
[09:00] <tarheelcoxn> Hobbsee: why do you need to reinstall grub?
[09:00] <tarheelcoxn> Strike4ce: o.0
[09:00] <Strike4ce> tarheelcoxn is that ok?
[09:00] <tarheelcoxn> Strike4ce: why are you doing that?
[09:00] <tarheelcoxn> Strike4ce: there's nothing wrong with it
[09:01] <tarheelcoxn> it just strikes me as overkill
[09:01] <tarheelcoxn> Strike4ce: you only have one computer to work with?
[09:01] <Strike4ce> Well I installed the official ati driver and then decided to follow the how to so I tried to uninstall the official ATI driver and it brought me to that lovely black screen
[09:01] <Strike4ce> no 2
[09:02] <Strike4ce> Im on my desktop and kubuntu is reinstalling on my dual boot laptop
[09:02] <tarheelcoxn> black screen? you mean a commandline interface?
[09:02] <Strike4ce> yes
[09:02] <nalioth> Strike4ce: does your cli have a login option?
[09:02] <Strike4ce> yes
[09:02] <Strike4ce> cli?
[09:02] <tarheelcoxn> Strike4ce: learning a handful of commands so you're not lost at a CLI is _VERY_ worth your time
[09:02] <Strike4ce> theblack screen?
[09:03] <tarheelcoxn> cli = command line interface
[09:03] <nalioth> !cli
[09:03] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[09:03] <Strike4ce> where can I find these commands?
[09:03] <tarheelcoxn> ^^
[09:03] <nalioth> Strike4ce: i suspect you may have a full linux install.  logging in and running "irssi" will bring you to irc (provided you have broadband AND your linux is installed, but not letting X start)
[09:03] <Strike4ce> thanx does it hurt to do reinstalls?
[09:03] <Hobbsee> tarheelcoxn: installing 98
[09:04] <nalioth> Strike4ce: you seem to be repeating failure
[09:04] <nalioth> reinstalling may not help
[09:04] <nalioth> but it wont hurt your machine
[09:04] <tarheelcoxn> Strike4ce: no worries about reinstalls... just don't give up so easily in the future
[09:04] <Strike4ce> yea, ok thats what I wanted to know
[09:04] <tarheelcoxn> Hobbsee: man updategrub
[09:04] <Strike4ce> Im not. Im to hardheaded
[09:05] <Hobbsee> tarheelcoxn: but i wont be able to boot to linux at all, will i, if the MBR is overwritten?
[09:05] <Heinerich> can you recommend any free 3d-ego-shooter to try my graphics card?
[09:05] <Strike4ce> What I like about this is that it is hands on
[09:05] <tarheelcoxn> Hobbsee: you want to fool 98 into thinking it has the MBR
[09:05] <tarheelcoxn> grub will still have the MBR
[09:06] <Hobbsee> tarheelcoxn: right
[09:06] <Hobbsee> ok, i'll try
[09:06] <tarheelcoxn> Heinerich: tuxracer?
[09:07] <Heinerich> tarheelcoxn: the fire-button didn't work there ;-)
[09:07] <Strike4ce> Can I get full 3d support with an ati mobility radeon 9600 pro turbo card just using the drivers supllied by kubuntu?
[09:08] <tarheelcoxn> Heinerich: it's open source. add a gun. :P
[09:08] <Heinerich> lol
[09:08] <Strike4ce> anyone know?
[09:08] <fujisan> Help i'm downlaoding a file from internet a mpeg file but i dont no where it will be stored?
[09:08] <tarheelcoxn> fujisan: what with, firefox?
[09:08] <fujisan> yes
[09:08] <tarheelcoxn> if so, it'll be in ~/Desktop
[09:09] <Strike4ce> can anyone answer that question?
[09:10] <tarheelcoxn> Strike4ce: not anyone here right now
[09:10] <fujisan> ok found it i tried to open the file with Kaffeine but it crashed while i installed the necessary codec plugins?
[09:11] <hap0> Hi all, just installed kubuntu for the first time tonight and it appears whatever was keeping it from working before has finally been fixed. Yeah. :)
[09:12] <fujisan> hi
[09:13] <hap0> Hi. :) I'm pretty happy with it. Nice simple look and feel. I really should track down that bug I filed and mark it resolved now. :)
[09:13] <fujisan> So how do i open the mpeg file w/o kaffeine crashing due to a invalid operation?
[09:14] <hap0> Try using a different program?
[09:15] <tarheelcoxn> fujisan: which driver is it using?
[09:15] <tarheelcoxn> xine?
[09:16] <fujisan> i think gstreamer
[09:16] <hap0> Hmmm, I've been encountering some issues as well. That's why I came over there. I've been looking through google, but didn't find much. My issue pertains to setting DNS and not having the settings be forgotten everytime I turn the laptop off.
[09:17] <tarheelcoxn> '/????????????????????????????????
[09:17] <tarheelcoxn> sorry
[09:17] <tarheelcoxn> that was the kitten saying hello
[09:17] <hap0> heh. :)
[09:17] <nalioth> give it a pat from me
[09:18] <tarheelcoxn> *kitten purrs*
[09:19] <hap0> fujisan: Sorry to come in late to the conversation, but have you tried xine already? I understand it would be preferable to stick with the stock programs, but sometimes it helps to try others to help zero in on where the problem might be.
[09:20] <fujisan> ok
[09:21] <hap0> fujisan: If it works with xine, then the problem is with likely with kaffeine somewhere, if not, then something lower down at the OS level is likely the cause.
[09:21] <fujisan> xine is a engine for Kaffeine?
[09:22] <insanekane> yes
[09:22] <fujisan> its not a different app
[09:22] <insanekane> i had to use xine to make sound work ... if thats the problem you are refferring to
[09:22] <insanekane> fujisan: xine has a frontend too ... kaffeine can also act as a frontend to xine
[09:22] <tarheelcoxn> hap0: you've looked at /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:23] <tarheelcoxn> if not, do some googling with that
[09:24] <hap0> tarheelcoxn: Yep, and I changed it to suit, but then it changed back after reboot. Surprised the heck out of me as that was a first. I've never had that happen before.
[09:24] <fujisan> i get the same error with xine
[09:24] <fujisan> :/
[09:24] <fujisan> shit
[09:24] <hap0> tarheelcoxn: I'm sure I could set the network to static, but it's a laptop, and I move around a bit.
[09:25] <tarheelcoxn> hap0: weeeeeird
[09:25] <hap0> tarheelcoxn: that's exactly what I thought and did. :)
[09:26] <Strike4ce> how do I Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf with a text editor?
[09:26] <tarheelcoxn> fujisan: is the wiki lacking in helpfulness?
[09:26] <fujisan> it crashed error: signal SIGFPE
[09:26] <fujisan> yes it is
[09:26] <tarheelcoxn> Strike4ce: nano comes with kubuntu
[09:26] <hap0> Strike4ce: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:26] <nalioth> Strike4ce: "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:26] <fujisan> it crashed error: signal 8 SIGFPE
[09:26] <hap0> nalioth: heh. :)
[09:27] <fujisan> i didnt foudn that error in the wiki tarheelcoxn 
[09:27] <tarheelcoxn> fujisan: :(
[09:27] <fujisan> what does that mean?
[09:27] <tarheelcoxn> it was an expression of empathy
[09:27] <tarheelcoxn> it's an emoticon
[09:27] <fujisan> no the error
[09:27] <tarheelcoxn> :P
[09:28] <tarheelcoxn> ba-dum
[09:28] <fujisan> which codec for kaffeine plays mpeg?
[09:28] <fujisan> just tell me that
[09:28] <hap0> fujisan: I'd say you might try re-installing xine, and then kaffiene. Sorry I can't offer much better than that. :/
[09:29] <Strike4ce> kate crashed now what?
[09:29] <hap0> fujisan: google: linux mpeg codec (?)
[09:29] <hap0> Strike4ce: konsole: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:30] <fujisan> whats another mediaplayer besides Kaffeine
[09:30] <fujisan> i dislike Kaffeine
[09:30] <hap0> fujisan: mplayer
[09:30] <fujisan> i installed 2 different mpeg codecs already for Kaffeine and they cant play the mpeg
[09:31] <fujisan> k ty
[09:32] <hap0> np
[09:32] <hap0> hth
[09:32] <fatejudger> does anyone know how to manually enable a wired or wireless connection in the CLI?
[09:33] <fujisan> hehe mplayer does the trick
[09:33] <fujisan> :P
[09:33] <fujisan> ty hap0 
[09:34] <hap0> goodnight all. Nice job fujisan. :)
[09:34] <fujisan> i can finally few my special nude ladies mpeg files now :)
[09:34] <fatejudger> lol
[09:34] <Strike4ce> brb
[09:34] <fatejudger> mplayer?
[09:34] <fatejudger> mplayer sucks
[09:34] <hap0> mplayer works in this case as opposed to everything else. sometimes that's all that matters.
[09:35] <hap0> g'night all.
[09:35] <Strike4ce> crimsun:  its working
[09:35] <nalioth> fatejudger: ifup and ifdown
[09:35] <Heinerich> night? well ok,good night hap0 :)
[09:36] <fatejudger> nalioth: damn, that's right
[09:36] <Strike4ce> tarheelcoxn: I have it setup for my card now
[09:36] <tarheelcoxn> Strike4ce: congrats
[09:36] <fatejudger> nalioth: I kept doing "ifconfig eth0 up"
[09:36] <Strike4ce> tarheelcoxn: How can I tinker with the resolution?
[09:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Strike4ce about fixres
[09:37] <tarheelcoxn> Strike4ce: if you want to keep fiddling in the .conf, there are stanzas for resolution
[09:37] <tarheelcoxn> just keep a backup
[09:38] <fujisan> lol i can only download at 300 KB/s but this site gave me 1000 KB/s haha
[09:38] <fatejudger> nalioth: so what would be the whole command?
[09:39] <fatejudger> nalioth: just ifup or ifdown?
[09:39] <fatejudger> nalioth: what if you wanted it interface specific?
[09:39] <nalioth> fatejudger: ya got me, i dont ever use them "ifup --help"
[09:39] <fatejudger> nalioth: what do you use?
[09:40] <nalioth> fatejudger: i dont. my network interfaces dont ever get changed
[09:41] <tarheelcoxn> fatejudger: on my laptop I use ifup wlan0
[09:41] <tarheelcoxn> for the internal wireless
[09:41] <tarheelcoxn> and ifup ath0 for the 802.11g pcmcia card I got (atheros chipset)
[09:42] <fatejudger> I have an atheros card too
[09:42] <fatejudger> ath0
[09:42] <fatejudger> I tried doing "iwconfig ath0 up"
[09:42] <tarheelcoxn> there you have it
[09:42] <fatejudger> tarheelcoxn: ok, thanks
[09:42] <fatejudger> tarheelcoxn: I don't know if I want to try it right now but I might later
[09:42] <tarheelcoxn> fatejudger: you looked with lsmod to make sure the atheros module is loaded?
[09:42] <fatejudger> lsmod?
[09:43] <tarheelcoxn> fatejudger: I remember the atheros module being a pain in the neck to get compiled and installed
[09:43] <fatejudger> I know that ath0 is recognized as my card
[09:43] <tarheelcoxn> but that was six months ago
[09:43] <fatejudger> no, it worked out of the box
[09:43] <tarheelcoxn> wow
[09:43] <fatejudger> I have Breezy
[09:43] <fatejudger> that's why I waited for Breezy
[09:43] <tarheelcoxn> :P
[09:43] <fatejudger> I had Hoary on my desktop, but I waited for Breezy for my laptop
[09:43] <fatejudger> after I heard of the extreme laptop support
[09:44] <tarheelcoxn> I jumped on Sid with my laptop in 2002
[09:44] <tarheelcoxn> 's been quite the learning experience
[09:44] <fatejudger> Sid... that's debian
[09:45] <nalioth> etch is calling, heh
[09:45] <fatejudger> why are you in the Kubuntu channel then?
[09:45] <fatejudger> etch?
[09:45] <tarheelcoxn> fatejudger: because I've got four computers here, two of which are running kubuntu
[09:46] <tarheelcoxn> fatejudger: etch is the testing version of debian right now
[09:46] <fatejudger> tarheelcoxn: ah
[09:46] <fatejudger> tarheelcoxn: sounds like someone likes to live on the wild side
[09:46] <fatejudger> tarheelcoxn: testing, that's not for me
[09:46] <tarheelcoxn> :D
[09:47] <tarheelcoxn> fatejudger: there are always three "releases" at any given time for debian--stable (sarge right now), testing (etch right now), and Sid (unstable)
[09:47] <tarheelcoxn> Sid never gets renamed
[09:48] <tarheelcoxn> you remember the movie _Toy_Story_?
[09:48] <tarheelcoxn> debian releases get names from the movie
[09:48] <tarheelcoxn> Sid was the kid next door who blew things up
[09:48] <tarheelcoxn> :P
[09:50] <tarheelcoxn> nalioth: no kidding. (k)ubuntu feels like cheating compared to debian
[09:50] <nalioth> tarheelcoxn: dont you mean s/x/k/ubuntu?
[09:51] <tarheelcoxn> nalioth: that. yeah
[09:51] <nalioth> as there is now an official "server-ubuntu" and xubuntu
[09:52] <virtual> :|
[09:54] <tarheelcoxn> there's also ubuntu-lite
[09:54] <tarheelcoxn> time for ubuntu-bed
[09:54] <tarheelcoxn> g'night all
[09:55] <virtual81> nite
[09:55] <Heinerich> g'n tarheelcoxn 
[09:55] <Heinerich> 9:55 in the morning here...
[09:55] <Heinerich> :-)
[09:56] <nalioth> tarheelcoxn: ubuntu-lite is not official and is not nice (to some)
[10:09] <fujisan> Ubuntu is based on Debian
[10:09] <fujisan> is Debian better then Ubuntu?
[10:10] <nalioth> fujisan: they all have their uses
[10:10] <fujisan> nalioth:  you were from Texas right?
[10:11] <fujisan> are*
[10:12] <nalioth> fujisan: yes
[10:12] <spiral> hi
[10:13] <fujisan> ok i needed to see if my memory works again i took to many herbals homeopathic drugs for my concentration and my brain was doing all kinds of werd stuff yesterday
[10:13] <fujisan> So which timezone is Texas in?
[10:13] <fujisan> central time
[10:13] <fujisan> pacific
[10:13] <fujisan> eastern
[10:14] <fujisan> deviation from gmt is how + - Hours?
[10:14] <nalioth> gmt - 5 currently
[10:15] <fujisan> i'm in gmt +1
[10:15] <fujisan> so its 4:15 am in Texas
[10:16] <nalioth> 315
[10:16] <fujisan> ok
[10:18] <fujisan> then you are in gmt-6
[10:18] <fujisan> or i'm in gmt+2
[10:18] <fujisan> lol
[10:18] <fujisan> confusing
[10:25] <spiral> hi
[10:25] <johnsbil> Good morning ! Norway calling!
[10:25] <Whistler> how can i make program to start on boot?
[10:34] <jpgeerets> hi folks
[10:34] <jpgeerets> someone can tell me how to listen to streaming music?
[10:35] <jpgeerets> if i click the button, i get the question: what should firefox do with this file?
[10:35] <jpgeerets> it has an extension of .asx
[10:58] <lunitik> When can we expect KDE3.5beta2 to be in dappy propper?
[10:59] <lunitik> having issues with certain packages due to the repo's not being concurrent...
[10:59] <lunitik> (mainly guidance deps)
[11:00] <lunitik> Worst thing about Python... it always seems like a moving target  :/
[11:01] <lunitik> Also... I'm having issues with panels... transparant... I get white or black blocks every so often...
[11:01] <lunitik> Also, would be nice if the clock applet took up less room... but thats ok....
[11:02] <lunitik> with blocks... seems to be random after clicking buttons on the panel.....
[11:02] <lunitik> mousing over fixes it temp.
[11:03] <lunitik> yay... no ones awake....
[11:17] <virtual81> i'm awake
[11:18] <virtual81> ;)
[11:22] <likarum> Hi
[11:26] <Fuji-san> hi read this story :-) http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/TheFable
[11:29] <tore> Hi.  Is it possible to override the Live CD's default behaviour of using any available swap partitions on the hard drives?  It won't boot for me as that drive is defective
[11:32] <Fuji-san> i dont know tore
[11:34] <tore> Fuji-san: okai.  I'm trying to use the live cd in order to recover what I can from a hard drive crash.  But, on the crashed hard drive there is a swap partition - which makes the Live CD fail :(
[11:34] <Fuji-san> try asking in #ubuntu
[11:34] <Fuji-san> i'm not an expert user
[11:34] <tore> I will, thanks.
[12:20] <Cheapy> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73057&page=2 
[12:22] <Fuji-san> hi read this story :-) http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/TheFable
[12:48] <seezer> hi
[12:51] <amd123> hi erm
[12:51] <amd123> could some one help a bit?
[12:52] <virtual81> hey
[12:52] <amd123> hi :)
[12:52] <virtual81> whats the trouble ?
[12:52] <amd123> well um, i'm really new to all this, and though I tried searching the docs im not sure how some things work
[12:53] <amd123> currently, i'm running ubuntu, and are now apt-gettin the kde
[12:53] <virtual81> i dont know if i can help, i'm a little new myself
[12:53] <_thiago> good morning you nerds!
[12:53] <amd123> oh :)
[12:53] <amd123> well, if not you then maybe some1 else could know the following:
[12:54] <_thiago> is the KDE 3.5 beta 2 too buggy?
[12:54] <amd123> 1) I have noticed that gnome comes with a number of softwares. Will these disappear/can I use them still when I install KDE?
[12:54] <_thiago> and how do I get ir
[12:54] <_thiago> ?
[12:54] <amd123> 2) When I now install KDE, will my system start using that as a default immediately?
[12:55] <_thiago> please help me
[12:55] <amd123> hi _thiago :)
[12:56] <virtual81> amd123 : not really sure about your second question
[12:56] <amd123> what about the first?
[12:56] <virtual81> i know KDE has a large number of apps suited to it
[12:57] <virtual81> most of them start with "K"... its quite annoying.. lol
[12:57] <virtual81> like Konquer for file and web browsing
[12:58] <virtual81> and Konversation for IRC (i think most ppl in here are using it)
[12:58] <virtual81> terminal program called Konsole
[12:58] <virtual81> Krita for editing pics
[12:59] <virtual81> i like KDE, i just wish the programs had sensible names
[12:59] <amd123> I understand, but can still use gnome-programs with KDE?
[12:59] <amd123> oh and 3) is it possible to get the gnome-applications without installing gnome / the way around, KDE apps without installing KDE?
[12:59] <virtual81> having everything start with a "K" comfuses the eye when wanting to work quickly
[01:00] <virtual81> i think there is a way of using native Gnome apps in kde, but i'm no expert
[01:00] <amd123> I understand
[01:00] <virtual81> my last few linux machines were headless personal servers
[01:00] <amd123> :)
[01:00] <virtual81> so i havent used a Linux GUI for a long time
[01:01] <virtual81> i installed my own prefered apps anyway
[01:01] <virtual81> Firefox + Thunderbirs + Gaim + X-Chat
[01:02] <virtual81> Gaim seems very polished from what it was years ago
[01:02] <amd123> wii
[01:02] <virtual81> wii ?
[01:02] <_thiago> oi pessoal
[01:03] <_thiago> alguem com o cu na mao?
[01:03] <_thiago> how do I get my kubuntu sound working with 2 different apps at the same time?
[01:04] <_thiago> please kubuntu experts, give a hand!
[01:04] <virtual81> good question
[01:04] <virtual81> i had the same problem
[01:05] <_thiago> which sound system do I have to choose? ALSA, Open Sound, whatever?
[01:05] <_thiago> hey guys? please !
[01:07] <_thiago> amd 123 please dont leave me!!
[01:07] <virtual81> i think ALSA is the latest and greatest, tho i still dont know how to fix your problem
[01:07] <_thiago> thaks anyway
[01:08] <virtual81> i'm working on other things at the moment, but if i come across a fix and see you around, ill let you know
[01:09] <_thiago> thank u
[01:09] <_thiago> are u a linux expert or something?
[01:11] <virtual81> no, sorry
[01:11] <_thiago> thanks man , good fo u..hehe
[01:12] <virtual81> i knew enough to get a basic lamp setup going on a few headless redhat boxes, thats about all
[01:14] <_thiago> coco no cabelo?
[01:27] <raphink> coconut in the hair?
[01:27] <raphink> or something else in the hair ?
[01:29] <AnGelo> can anyone tell me how install nvidia drivers on kubuntu ? [poland] 
[01:31] <AnGelo> ??
[01:31] <virtual81> hey AnGelo
[01:31] <virtual81> what card you got ?
[01:32] <AnGelo> geforce 6600 palit
[01:32] <AnGelo> and kubuntu 5.10 :)
[01:33] <AnGelo> what's kernel precompiled source ?
[01:33] <virtual81> i think that means that somthing is pre-compiled to suit your kernel
[01:34] <virtual81> but i'm no expert
[01:34] <AnGelo> nvidia driver install writes "Kernel precompiled source needed" download and try again... :(
[01:35] <virtual81> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:35] <virtual81> ^^ take a look there
[01:36] <AnGelo> :)
[01:36] <virtual81> i have to unplug this monitor now, ill be arounf later
[01:36] <virtual81> good luck with it
[01:38] <AnGelo> thanks, i will try 
[01:51] <_xuniL> i could need some help
[01:53] <plbgnr_> hello, I have just installed kubuntu 5.04 and now I see on www.kubuntu.org that it is available kubuntu 5.10 ..how can I upgrade kubuntu?
[01:53] <JohnnyFish> .GET, napster-like file searching for IRC. http://dotGET.org/ (Version 0.01.012 Beta Build 3222! -- mIRC 6.12) -- 6 files shared 30.51MB
[01:53] <_xuniL> look in the kmenu
[01:53] <Distro^Junkie> best bet is to download the new one and do a fresh install 
[01:58] <plbgnr_> Distro^Junkie: do you do it in this way? ...and then you install all packages again?
[02:00] <Distro^Junkie> plbgnr_: when you put the disc in kubuntu will recognize it as an upgrade and ask you if you want to upgrade
[02:01] <stdoubt> Hi -i was running Debian and have installed kubuntu on another partition. Compared with Debian kbuntu has a l0t of stuff running at bootup
[02:01] <Distro^Junkie> that's if you are in the desktop already plbgnr_ 
[02:02] <stdoubt> ..now there seems to  be something accessing my HDD every second or so like a heartbeat -any clues on what it might be?
[02:02] <plbgnr_> Distro^Junkie: thanks, it's nice feature :)
[02:02] <Distro^Junkie> np plbgnr_ 
[02:02] <Distro^Junkie> glad to help
[02:03] <Distro^Junkie> stdoubt: not sure
[02:03] <Distro^Junkie> don't know what you setup 
[02:03] <stdoubt> was a basic regular install
[02:03] <stdoubt> only non-indigenous progs are like celestia and gkrellm
[02:04] <stdoubt> brand new install
[02:08] <kairu0> hello
[02:08] <sadistic_kitten> how do you install rpms in kubuntu?
[02:09] <sadistic_kitten> is the command still rpm -Uvh (filename)?
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: use alien
[02:10] <sadistic_kitten> alien?
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> it alows you to convert/install rpms
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> on Debian systems
[02:11] <stdoubt> ubuntu is not debian!!
[02:11] <stdoubt> well, it is, but alien might give the likes of this one fits ;] 
[02:11] <stdoubt> sadistic: what do you need in rpm that's not alread a deb?
[02:11] <kairu0> i rebooted at one point today, logged in at kdm, and then i couldnt get to my desktop. i heard the startup sound, saw an empty panel at the bottom, but no icons, no right-click menu, etc. how can i recover from this?
[02:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> stdoubt: itd Debian enough
[02:12] <sadistic_kitten> how do I use alien?
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: sudo alien -i file.RPM
[02:12] <stdoubt> but don't use it on source rpms just binary (and read the man page:)
[02:13] <sadistic_kitten> Kamping_Kaiser: shouldn't it be -Uvh?
[02:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: why?
[02:13] <sadistic_kitten> I don't know I've been told that that is better
[02:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: then use that
[02:13] <sadistic_kitten> something about update
[02:13] <kairu0> any ideas?
[02:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> kairu0: fraid not
[02:14] <kairu0> i am running successfully as another user right now but i'd like to recover that user
[02:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: IMHO, your using RPM, so your getting a big sharp sword and lying on it. wether it's installed right is basicly irrelevent ;)
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> kairu0: did you use sudo $guiapp before it broke?
[02:15] <sadistic_kitten> Kamping_Kaiser: ./configure is always a bitch to me
[02:15] <kairu0> what is $guiapp?
[02:15] <sadistic_kitten> and I can't apt-get it
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> kairu0: anyold gui app. like kcontroll
[02:15] <kairu0> i did
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> that's probably it
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> open konsole, then type 'su yourlogin'
[02:16] <kairu0> any other apps i should not run?
[02:16] <kairu0> ok
[02:16] <kairu0> then what?
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> then type 'sudo chown -R yourname.yourgroup /home/yourname/'
[02:16] <Mez> lo all
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> kairu0: use kdesu for gui apps
[02:16] <sadistic_kitten> Kamping_Kaiser: it says that the command "alien" isn't found...
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> and sudo for command line apps
[02:16] <kairu0> oh ok thanks man!
[02:16] <kairu0> i'll try right after i eat dinner!
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: then you have to install it. it's in main
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:17] <sadistic_kitten> Kamping_Kaiser: so apt-get it?
[02:17] <kairu0> if it works, i'm joing your religion 
[02:17] <kairu0> hehe
[02:17] <kairu0> bbl
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: yes
[02:18] <sadistic_kitten> k
[02:18] <sadistic_kitten> why does everyone hate rpms so much
[02:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> because they are Red Hat packages
[02:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> and apart from breaking stuff, when used on Debian boxes, when used on Red Hat boxes, they generate 'RPM hell'
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> aparently urpmi fixes it somewhat
[02:20] <stdoubt> nobody hates rpms, but dpkg and apt just rule over tham is all ;] 
[02:20] <sadistic_kitten> hmmm oh well
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> infact apt-get was ported to Red Hat
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> and still cant fix their problems properly :D
[02:20] <sadistic_kitten> if ./configure worked for me then I'd use that a lot more
[02:21] <sadistic_kitten> (if apt didn't work first)
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: what are you installing from RPM?
[02:21] <hydrogen> I hate rpm's.
[02:21] <sadistic_kitten> because I can't do it with ./configure
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> *what*
[02:22] <sadistic_kitten> oh
[02:22] <sadistic_kitten> soundkonverter
[02:22] <ubuntu> Hello
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Ubuntu
[02:22] <ubuntu> Hi Kaiser
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:23] <ubuntu> Kasier where you from
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> Australia
[02:24] <ubuntu> New York here
[02:25] <sadistic_kitten> Kamping_Kaiser: is there a way to install a src.rpm ?
[02:25] <sadistic_kitten> because the only other rpms are suse rpms
[02:26] <sadistic_kitten> unless you want to help me with getting ./configure working
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: i can try and help you with your ./configure. i cant help with src rpms :)
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> hows it going Ubuntu? any questions?
[02:27] <sadistic_kitten> shall I paste the two lines here or in pastebin?
[02:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> 2 lines can go here
[02:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> i usualy say 5 and over is a flood
[02:27] <sadistic_kitten> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:28] <sadistic_kitten> See `config.log' for more details
[02:28] <sadistic_kitten> I've installed gcc
[02:28] <_xuniL> g++
[02:28] <_xuniL> ?
[02:28] <sadistic_kitten> apt-get g++?
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: do you have build-essentials?
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> the package
[02:28] <sadistic_kitten> erm I don't know
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> probably not then :)
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> you will have to apt-get it in
[02:29] <sadistic_kitten> apt-get g++?
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: get the build-essential package
[02:29] <sadistic_kitten> how do I do that?
[02:29] <sadistic_kitten> what do you mean
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: `sudo apt-get install build-essential`
[02:30] <sadistic_kitten> ok then
[02:31] <sadistic_kitten> 5m on it
[02:31] <sadistic_kitten> make that 4
[02:35] <mpmc> Hi, All
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi mpmc
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> hows it going sadistic_kitten
[02:38] <stratovarius> hey guys I installed americas army (a game).I try to run it with sh armyops e it says me "segmentation fault".what can I do to solve this problem?pls help me
[02:39] <stdoubt> stratavarius you have 3d acceleration working on ur box?
[02:39] <stratovarius> mmm i dont know
[02:40] <kairu0> Kamping_Kaiser, yo
[02:40] <kairu0> Kamping_Kaiser, it didnt work :(
[02:40] <stdoubt> (k)ubuntu has no 3d drivers by default
[02:40] <stratovarius> ok how can I get them?
[02:40] <kairu0> Kamping_Kaiser, all my icons loaded, but i couldnt click on anything
[02:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> kairu0:  :( ohm.
[02:41] <stratovarius> stdoubt?!?
[02:41] <kairu0> Kamping_Kaiser, the cursor moves but clicking does nothing
[02:41] <stdoubt> startovarius: read the how-tos on ubuntu forums - good guides.....the drivers can be installed many ways
[02:42] <kairu0> can i delete my session somehow?
[02:42] <stratovarius> pls help me I'm a newbe
[02:42] <stdoubt> lol
[02:42] <Cheapy> hrm
[02:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> kairu0: in Gnome you would delete the .Gnome files, but i don't think KDE likes you deleting the .KDE files, so I'm not sure
[02:42] <Cheapy> i tried putting gnome on kubuntu and it couldn't start :(
[02:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> stratovarius: ati or nVIDIA?
[02:42] <Cheapy> well it wouldn't start after the xwindow init part or so
[02:42] <stratovarius> nvidia tnt2 64 
[02:43] <Cheapy> due to some xscreensaver crap
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> !nVIDIA
[02:43] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:43] <kairu0> Kamping_Kaiser, ok
[02:43] <stdoubt> stratovarius: the best wat to start IMO is go to the ubuntu forums or wiki it's all there
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> have a quick look there stratovarius, and feel free to ask any questions
[02:43] <Cheapy> the nvidia howtos never worked for me, i had to do it manually by trial and error
[02:43] <Cheapy> without opening kate or gedit
[02:44] <Cheapy> all i had to do is to get the nvidia headers and kernel source, then run the driver through terminal (with xwindows shut off)
[02:44] <sadistic_kitten> Kamping_Kaiser: what does this mean...? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:44] <Cheapy> may vary though
[02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: now you need to install the 'xlib-dev' package (or simillar name)
[02:45] <sadistic_kitten> righito
[02:45] <kairu0> Kamping_Kaiser, the moral is "dont run kcontrol"?
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> kairu0: the moral is 'use kdesu for GUI applications, and sudo for command line applications'
[02:46] <stratovarius> ubotu i already did that step.I enable nvidia-glx-config, I reboot session (press cntrl alt backspace) but kdm doesnt work
[02:46] <ubotu> stratovarius: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[02:46] <sadistic_kitten> Kamping_Kaiser: it's saying that it cant find the package what would be a simillar name?
[02:47] <mpmc> anyone here, think Gentoo is easier to install than (k)ubuntu?, I dont
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: I'll try and find it
[02:47] <sadistic_kitten> k thanks
[02:47] <stratovarius> (sorry 4my bad english :P)
[02:48] <kairu0> Kamping_Kaiser, kdesu kcontrol would be safe?
[02:48] <mpmc> stratovarius: as long as it makes sense, who cares :P
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> kgoetz@Rommel:~$ apt-cache search xlib |grep dev
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic ^^
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> run that search
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> kairu0: yes
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> libx11-dev i think is the one you want
[02:48] <stdoubt> stratovarius: if it's all installed correctly, you may still have to edit your xorg.conf. Make sure Driver is 'nvidia' not 'nv'
[02:49] <kairu0> Kamping_Kaiser, cool
[02:49] <SAngeli> hi, I am downoading the iso for x86. I need to make a pc all in Italian. Will i be able to or not?
[02:49] <sadistic_kitten> ook
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> SAngeli: i think so
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> we did a welsh install, so italian should be on the cd :)
[02:49] <SAngeli> ok, will try.
[02:49] <SAngeli> thks
[02:49] <stratovarius> I already changed that thing but it doesnt work. I can try to edit my xorg.conf again. may u write me the command line to configure it?
[02:50] <stratovarius> sangeli italiano?
[02:50] <SAngeli> si
[02:50] <stratovarius> vai su ubuntu-it
[02:50] <SAngeli> pure tu?
[02:50] <stratovarius> yes
[02:50] <SAngeli> thanks.
[02:51] <SAngeli> done
[02:51] <SAngeli> bye
[02:51] <stdoubt> stratovarius try:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg
[02:51] <troth> i just downloaded a .bin file, how do i install it? im ruunning kubuntu breezy
[02:51] <stdoubt> troth, u r transparent
[02:53] <sadistic_kitten> Kamping_Kaiser: so `sudo apt-get install libx11-dev'?
[02:53] <troth> stdoubt: im sorry im just learning, what does that mean?
[02:53] <stratovarius> stdoubt I configured my xorg what do I have to do now?
[02:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: yeh
[02:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> stratovarius: restart kdm+x
[02:54] <stdoubt> stratovarius: close some progs and Ctl+Alt+Backspace to reset X
[02:54] <mpmc> troth: sudo dkpg -i file.bin.
[02:54] <stratovarius> without enable glk?
[02:54] <Fuji-san> Help me i get this error: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> stratovarius: remember c+a+b  will close all your work
[02:54] <stratovarius> *nvidia-glx-config
[02:54] <Fuji-san> how can i install the plugin?
[02:54] <stratovarius> kamping thx I knew :D
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:55] <stdoubt> troth: dpkg only installs *.deb
[02:55] <mpmc> oh yeah sorry
[02:56] <troth> stdoubt: no its not a deb, ive figured those out simply, its a .bin file (java)
[02:56] <mpmc> just run the bin fille
[02:56] <mpmc> sudo ./file.bin?
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> if your installing java, check the wiki page
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> make a deb, then install the deb
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> makes it easier to clean up after )
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> * :)
[02:56] <troth> mpmc: i tried that, ill try again and give you the message
[02:57] <mpmc> oh, I installed java.... it pretty easy, If you follow the page
[02:57] <troth> k cool
[02:57] <sadistic_kitten> Kamping_Kaiser: I still got the same error message
[02:57] <xxenon> I have a weird problem, inserting an USB mass storage device mounts it in 2 mountpoints :
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: can you give the error again?
[02:57] <xxenon> /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[02:57] <xxenon> /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[02:57] <mpmc> troth: I'm new to linux too, but, I'm trying to help
[02:57] <xxenon> that causes huge problems here...
[02:58] <sadistic_kitten> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:58] <troth> mpmc: what is the wiki address pls?
[02:58] <mpmc> hold on
[02:58] <stdoubt> xxenon: check your references to the device in /etc/fstab -edit if necessary
[02:58] <mpmc> !tell troth about java
[02:58] <troth> perfect thanks
[02:58] <mpmc> lol
[02:59] <xxenon> stdoubt - this is automount stuff...nothing in fstab.
[02:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: you sure what you want isnt in the repositories? i thought that was the package you needed :|
[02:59] <Fuji-san> Help me i get this error: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL
[02:59] <stdoubt> xxeneon: then you could MAKE a reference to the device and then use the qualifier 'noauto'
[03:00] <sadistic_kitten> i dunno
[03:00] <xxenon> stdoubt - ok, lemme try that ..
[03:00] <stdoubt> xxenon: you really don't want removeable devices being automounted at bootup
[03:01] <mpmc> Honey, I'm gnome!
[03:01] <mpmc> lol
[03:01] <mpmc> sorry <_<
[03:01] <stdoubt> lol
[03:01] <xxenon> stdoubt - I never said it's mounted at bootup.
[03:01] <Fuji-san> Why is nobody helping me :((
[03:01] <mpmc> sorry everyone about that corny joke
[03:01] <stdoubt> xxenon - but your machine probably tries to..?
[03:01] <xxenon> stdoubt -  nope.
[03:01] <mpmc> Fuji-san: I'll try and help
[03:01] <mpmc> Fuji-san: whats up?
[03:01] <stdoubt> xxenon: either way - one of the references has to go then you're set
[03:02] <sadistic_kitten> Kamping_Kaiser: apt did download "libx11-dev" but I tried again with the ./configure and it came up with the same message
[03:02] <apokryphos> sadistic_kitten: try just doing sudo apt-get build-dep kate
[03:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: i see. try asking in #Ubuntu about that, because that's where most of the hardcores are :|
[03:02] <xxenon> stdoubt -as I said, there is _no_ reference in fstab. But I'll try to create one.
[03:03] <troth> hmmm, does anyone know how to set multiverse in kynaptic?
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> xxenon: the double mounting is a known problem. I'm not sure if it's been fixed or not
[03:03] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: thing is, the X includes in Hoary used to just be all-encompassing in libx11-dev, but that's no longer the case in breezy... weird. xlibs-dev I think might help -- did he/she try that? Nevermind; the build-dep will bring it in
[03:03] <xxenon> finally an anwer. Thanks Kamping_Kaiser.
[03:03] <xxenon> answer*
[03:03] <stdoubt> xxenon: easy way is just copy a line referencing a hdd and make some changes -especially 'vfat' where it says ext3 ;] 
[03:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> apokryphos: oh, i see. well htats a pita :|
[03:04] <Fuji-san> Help me i get this error: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL
[03:04] <sadistic_kitten> apokryphos: "sudo apt-get _install build-dep kate" or just yours
[03:04] <Fuji-san> i need to install the mrl plugin for my browser
[03:04] <apokryphos> sadistic_kitten: just mine
[03:04] <sadistic_kitten> ok
[03:04] <apokryphos> sadistic_kitten: also, if you can, can you paste all the packages it wants to install in #flood just so I can see
[03:05] <ruel24> Can anyone tell me about the nVidia nForce support built-in to Breezy? I've purchased an MSI K7N2 Delta2 Platinum board based on the nForce 2 Ultra 400 chipset, but I believe that the latest nForce drivers require GCC 3.4, whereas GCC 4.0 is default in Breezy.
[03:05] <sadistic_kitten> ok
[03:06] <Fuji-san> HELP
[03:06] <Fuji-san> ME
[03:06] <Fuji-san> Help me i get this error: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL
[03:06] <Fuji-san> i need to install the mrl plugin for my browser
[03:06] <stratovarius> stdoubt:I did what that HOWTO said me but when If I enable sudo nvidia-glx-config enable kdm (and so kde) doesnt work. what can I do?
[03:06] <apokryphos> !tell Fuji-san about enter
[03:07] <stratovarius> stdoubt:I did what that HOWTO said me but If I enable sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, kdm (and so kde) doesnt work. what can I do?
[03:07] <stdoubt> stratovarius: i've never had to do sudo nvidia-glx-config : it has nothing to do with installing your game
[03:07] <stdoubt> ...and making it run
[03:07] <mpmc> !tell me about naotun
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> quick question. anyone know how many clam packages i need? just clamav? or should i get others?
[03:08] <Fuji-san> !tell apokryphos about manners
[03:08] <sadistic_kitten> apokryphos: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/409907
[03:08] <apokryphos> Fuji-san: please don't be silly.
[03:08] <mpmc> !tell me about noatun
[03:08] <ruel24> No answers? Am I even visible in the channel?
[03:08] <mpmc> <_<
[03:08] <Fuji-san> i have been here for 30 minutes and nobody helps me apokryphos :(
[03:08] <mpmc> What your problem
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> ruel24: you are visible
[03:09] <apokryphos> Fuji-san: just state your question and leave it; if someone is able/willing to help, they will. 
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> but i havent seen a question ;)
[03:09] <apokryphos> sadistic_kitten: thanks
[03:09] <ruel24>  Can anyone tell me about the nVidia nForce support built-in to Breezy? I've purchased an MSI K7N2 Delta2 Platinum board based on the nForce 2 Ultra 400 chipset, but I believe that the latest nForce drivers require GCC 3.4, whereas GCC 4.0 is default in Breezy.
[03:10] <sadistic_kitten> apokryphos: it's gonna take 13m from now
[03:10] <apokryphos> ok
[03:11] <sadistic_kitten> I'm on a wireless connection to some random around my house who doesn't have a wep key...
[03:11] <mpmc> lol
[03:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:12] <Fuji-san> i need to install the mrl plugin for my browser
[03:12] <Fuji-san> Help me i get this error: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL
[03:12] <mpmc> sadistic_kitten: you need to find out who it is and tell them
[03:12] <sadistic_kitten> and I get the best signal in my room :)
[03:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> Fuji-san: we cant seem to help you. perhaps try another chanel or wait a while
[03:12] <sadistic_kitten> mpmc: nah
[03:13] <mpmc> sadistic_kitten: its your neighbour then..
[03:13] <sadistic_kitten> one of them
[03:14] <Fuji-san> I'm a Wozniak
[03:14] <Fuji-san> dont insult me
[03:14] <Fuji-san> Kamping_Kaiser: 
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> Fuji-san: i didnt insult you, and i dunno wat wozniak means
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> *what
[03:15] <Fuji-san> cuz your a n00b :/
[03:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh. of course
[03:15] <Fuji-san> Kamping_Kaiser:  watch this stream : http://disgruntledmass.v2.nl/media/video/Hackers_Computer_Outlaws.ShareReactor.avi
[03:15] <Fuji-san> :P
[03:15] <mth`MAW> Hi Guys.
[03:16] <sadistic_kitten> HI mth`MAW 
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi mth`MAW
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> whatever Fuji-san
[03:17] <Fuji-san> hahaha
[03:17] <mth`MAW> Yesterday someone Tm_T helped me with my artsd ... works fine right know ;)
[03:17] <Fuji-san> did you know that phone phreaking was invented by blind people lmao
[03:17] <Fuji-san> :P
[03:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> mth`MAW: i think i saw you talking with him :)
[03:17] <mth`MAW> Today, I would like to solve a kmail problem with you :)
[03:18] <mth`MAW> Kmail an gpg will not work together
[03:18] <mth`MAW> kgpg works fine
[03:18] <mth`MAW> But kmail says:
[03:18] <Fuji-san> lol all u needed in the old days was a captain crunch whistle :P
[03:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> there was a know issue with the 2, but not sure if it's been fixed mth`MAW
[03:19] <Fuji-san> Kamping_Kaiser:  watch it : http://disgruntledmass.v2.nl/media/video/Hackers_Computer_Outlaws.ShareReactor.avi
[03:19] <mth`MAW> Not in beta2 :)
[03:19] <Fuji-san> its interesting
[03:19] <Fuji-san> ;)
[03:19] <mth`MAW> Is there a workaround?
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> mth`MAW: dunno, sorry
[03:19] <mth`MAW> Keine Backends zum Auflisten der Schlssel gefunden. Bitte berprfen Sie Ihre Installation.
[03:19] <mth`MAW> Thats the error msg
[03:20] <mth`MAW> what a pitty Kamping_Kaiser 
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> do you have to set the path to gpg?
[03:20] <mth`MAW> wait ...
[03:21] <mth`MAW> I haven tried it with beta2 
[03:21] <mth`MAW> I noticed rigth now...
[03:21] <mth`MAW> one Moment... Please - brb
[03:26] <mth`MAW> lol
[03:26] <mth`MAW> works fine
[03:26] <mth`MAW> :)
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[03:27] <mth`MAW> Is it somehow possible to delete the log file of this channel it is embarrassing :)
[03:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> fraid not ;)
[03:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> not without some l33t haxoring
[03:28] <Fuji-san> Kamping_Kaiser: 
[03:28] <Fuji-san> watch that docu
[03:28] <Fuji-san> :p
[03:28] <Fuji-san> its so kewl
[03:31] <luisito> hello
[03:32] <sadistic_kitten> hi
[03:32] <troth> does anyone know how to add multiverse repositories in kynaptic, it wont apply my changes in adept
[03:32] <luisito> I have a problem with fonts in gdm enviroment after installing kubuntu-desktop package
[03:32] <luisito> I think after installing kubuntu desktop, not sure, the sizes of the fonts in ubuntu had changed and they are 10 but looks bigger :/
[03:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> troth: i cant help with kynaptic, i can help doing it by hand
[03:33] <luisito> when I say "in ubuntu" I say in gdm
[03:33] <troth> ok im willing to learn :)
[03:33] <luisito> anyone knows what I can do?
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> troth:  :)
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'll be here and there. I'm trying to get fetchmail working :)
[03:34] <sadistic_kitten> luisito: sorry
[03:34] <sadistic_kitten> maybe someone else might...
[03:34] <sadistic_kitten> apokryphos: ?
[03:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> troth: use 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list' then add in the line "deb http://archive.Ubuntu.com/Ubuntu $version multiverse'
[03:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> where $version is the kubunty your running
[03:35] <apokryphos> sadistic_kitten: hm?
[03:36] <sadistic_kitten> do you want to help luisito?
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> luisito: if your using Kubuntu, make sure your using kdm not gmd
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> *gdm
[03:37] <sadistic_kitten> apokryphos: oh and my ./configure is working fine now thanks
[03:37] <sadistic_kitten> doing make now
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> sadistic_kitten: what were you missing?
[03:37] <sadistic_kitten> I dunno heaps of stuff
[03:37] <troth> Kamping_Kaiser: k so, in the line deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted change to deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy multiverse
[03:38] <sadistic_kitten> I just did a big download and it worked now
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> troth: don't change it, add a new one
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> :|
[03:39] <troth> Kamping_Kaiser: oops sorry, :), what was the last thing you said
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> troth: don't change it, add a new one
[03:40] <troth> Kamping_Kaiser: ok, just anywhere or at the top?
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> anywhere pretty much. i wrote my list by hand (it's quite big) so i have a set order for things :)
[03:41] <troth> someone should just make a generic one that newbs can cut and paste :)
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> troth: ask ubotu
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> !sources
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell troth about sources
[03:43] <troth> Kamping Kaiser: lol! nice
[03:43] <sadistic_kitten> apokryphos: ummm when I did make it had some errors I've put the whole thing in pastebin 'cause I'm not sure can you just look over it and tell me if it is ok or not http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/409930
[03:44] <apokryphos> sadistic_kitten: looks like random automake errors :/. Annoying
[03:45] <sadistic_kitten> apokryphos: so what does that mean
[03:45] <apokryphos> pretty much that I can't help
[03:45] <sadistic_kitten> damn
[03:45] <sadistic_kitten> is there anything I can do?
[03:46] <apokryphos> Google the error; apart from that, not much
[03:46] <apokryphos> might be worth asking in #kde too
[03:46] <sadistic_kitten> ok
[03:46] <sadistic_kitten> thanks for the help untill now though...
[03:47] <stratovarius> guys I installed nvidia drivers (I have got a nvidia tnt2 64), but If I enable sudo nvidia-glx-config, kdm and kde doesnt work. here is a xorg output
[03:48] <stratovarius> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3787
[03:48] <troth> !restricted
[03:48] <ubotu> [restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[03:48] <stratovarius> who can help me?
[03:48] <stratovarius> pls read up
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> stratovarius: give us time to read
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> and you need the legacy packages
[03:49] <stratovarius> srry 
[03:49] <stratovarius> how can I get them?
[03:51] <stratovarius> kamping ?!?
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> stratovarius: sorry, just a tic
[03:52] <ubuntu> nice :D
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'm just hammering my pc flat atm :|
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> nVIDIA-glx-legacy < stratovarius
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> all lowercase
[03:53] <Mars> Hi
[03:53] <Mars> I have problem with superkaramba
[03:54] <Mars> When i for example try to open weather theme
[03:54] <ubuntu> if I boot the dvd as liveCD ... is there an installer to get the sys on disk? 
[03:54] <Mars> And i open it
[03:54] <Mars> Nothing happens
[03:54] <troth> Kamping_KAiser: works perfectly now, thanks a million!
[03:54] <Mars> I mean it works but aI dont see any graphic. I can put it in different places but its only transparental square
[03:55] <Mars> I dont know what to do
[03:55] <troth> ubuntu: yes usually
[03:55] <Mars> cause i am runnind sifferent theme and itm works
[03:55] <troth> ubuntu: epecially with the dvd's
[03:55] <ubuntu> :)
[03:55] <ubuntu> a graphical one? or just shell/console?
[03:56] <troth> ubuntu: the dvds contain the whole sha-banga bang, which do you have?
[03:56] <ubuntu> troth: the latest one... how is the installer called?
[03:57] <troth> ubuntu: breezy right? and Kubuntu i assume?
[03:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> troth: good to hear it's working
[03:57] <ubuntu> yep
[03:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> troth: get my pm?
[03:58] <tobstar> Hi everyone
[03:58] <tobstar> I need help with my WLAN configuration
[03:58] <troth> Kamping_Kaiser: yes it was perfect!
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> IIRC my list points at the australian mirror (*i hhope it does *)
[03:59] <tobstar> I have a ACX100 miniPCI card, it worked with Kubuntu 5.03, but doesn't with 5.10
[04:00] <tobstar> kcmwifi and knetworkconfmodule seem to overwriting each other
[04:00] <troth> ubuntu: i cant find it right now, it shopuld say on the site where you got it, thats how i installed what i am on now
[04:01] <troth> ubuntu: live dvd that is
[04:01] <Mars> How can i upgrade superkaramba?
[04:01] <troth> Kamping_Kaiser: now that list should apply to kynaptic, and adept etc. too correct?
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> troth: correct
[04:02] <troth> excellent
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep.
[04:03] <troth> i gotta admit, this is about week 3 ive been using linux, and more and more i like it
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> glad to hear
[04:04] <Mars> How can I update karamba?
[04:05] <Mars> superkaramba
[04:07] <sadistic_kitten> Mars: what version do you have?
[04:07] <Mars> I dont know but people from #kde adviced me to do this
[04:08] <troth>  it seems the main thing is to get all my old winodows habits out of my head that have been hammered in since i was a child
[04:08] <sadistic_kitten> Mars: have you tried "sudo apt-get install superkaramba"
[04:09] <Mars> yes
[04:09] <Mars> Problem is that I dont see any karamba themes
[04:10] <Mars> i see one
[04:10] <Mars> other is only transparental square
[04:12] <sadistic_kitten> Mars: sorry hold on
[04:15] <sadistic_kitten> Mars: yes you do need to update your superkaramba to use the wheather theme
[04:17] <luisito> hello
[04:17] <jpatrick> luisito: hello
[04:18] <sadistic_kitten> Mars: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30207
[04:18] <sadistic_kitten> download that and compile it
[04:19] <luisito> I logged at the same time with the same user into ubuntu and kubuntu sessions... now I want to reset that kubuntu session I logged in to make it like I never logged in kubuntu with that user. Is that possible?
[04:43] <tobstar> nobody seems to know how to help with my WLAN, is there a special channel for that?
[04:50] <tobstar> do you even read my writing?
[04:50] <jpatrick> tobstar: no
[04:51] <jpatrick> j/k
[04:51] <tobstar> why
[04:51] <tobstar> kay, got it
[04:51] <jpatrick> tobstar: what's the problem?
[04:52] <tobstar> my ACX100 WLAN-card won't work with Kubuntu 5.10 even though it did with the previous release
[04:53] <tobstar> I tried to configure it with kcmwifi and it worked, then I tried to enable it with knetworkconfmodule and it didn't not start up
[04:53] <tobstar> when I start kcmwifi again after that, my settings are gone
[04:54] <jpatrick> tobstar: it's the kdesu bug...
[04:54] <tobstar> is it, I start my modules from bash as root
[04:59] <tobstar> jpatrick:is it, I start my modules from bash as root
[04:59] <jpatrick> :/
[05:01] <strike4ce> !restricted formats
[05:01] <ubotu> [restricted formats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[05:10] <strike4ce> What is a good media player for kubuntu kde?
[05:12] <_evaro> amarok
[05:14] <Riddell> ** testers needed for admin mode beastie fix http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/8681
[05:15] <strike4ce> _evaro: what do I need to get amarok going good
[05:16] <strike4ce> What about playing dvds?
[05:16] <strike4ce> !dvd
[05:16] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can obtain by installing 'libdvdread3' and then running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[05:21] <jpatrick> Riddell: do those work with KDE 3.5 B2?
[05:21] <Riddell> jpatrick: yes
[05:24] <jpatrick> Riddell: downgrading kdebase-bin from 3.4.92-0ubuntu1 to 3.4.3-0ubuntu6
[05:25] <strike4ce> How do you make a program executable?
[05:25] <strike4ce> Im downloading jre
[05:25] <Stefano> hey guys. why can't i click in the upper left corner to close a maximized window? i remember this to work in previous versions of kde with plastik window decoration
[05:26] <flixor> hy everybody i want to receive and send email from the commandline wich programs must i use to acomplish that and how can i set it up 
[05:26] <libbn> strike4ce: chmod +x filename
[05:27] <icewt> flixor: pine
[05:27] <libbn> that makes it executable
[05:28] <flixor> yes icewt i have pine installed but i cant configure pine to get my mail from my isp pop3 server and send via my isp mail server 
[05:28] <libbn> Uptime: 14 hours and 53 minutes
[05:28] <flixor> or i am mistaken something icewt 
[05:28] <Riddell> jpatrick: stop
[05:28] <Riddell> jpatrick: it breaks kdm in 3.5
[05:29] <jpatrick> Riddell: oh dear
[05:29] <strike4ce> libbn: thanx
[05:29] <strike4ce> What do you all use to play dvd movies?
[05:29] <icewt> flixor: sorry, i don't actually know how to set it up because i haven't used it on my own computer :/
[05:29] <libben> dvd player and xbox
[05:29] <libben> =)
[05:30] <strike4ce> lol um I mean for kubuntu
[05:30] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35beta2/pool-breezy/kdebase/kdebase-bin_3.4.92-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  to fix kdm
[05:30] <libben> kde 3.5 beta2 any somewhat stable yet?
[05:31] <jpatrick> libben: sort of
[05:31] <jpatrick> libben: just sound server problem
[05:31] <flixor> kee thanks anyway icewt 
[05:31] <jpatrick> Riddell: I should install that?
[05:31] <Riddell> jpatrick: if you want a working kdm yes (bt no admin mode fix)
[05:32] <libben> so whats that then?
[05:32] <jpatrick> libben: sound server keeps crashing
[05:32] <strike4ce> !multiverse
[05:32] <libben> no audio? when playing games? or just no audio when u try to work under kde ? such as audio in playing streams and videos?
[05:32] <libben> aah
[05:32] <libben> ok
[05:33] <jpatrick> libben: there are some packages to fix it: http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?topic=1115.new#new
[05:33] <jpatrick> libben: I haven't tried them tho
[05:35] <libben> ill just hang some more to my old horse here. i can wait for a more stable beta =)
[05:37] <jpatrick> libben: well I'm on Dapper =)
[05:39] <libben> lol
[05:39] <libben> isnt it a bit early to be there ?
[05:39] <Cilindrador> he's from the future
[05:40] <jpatrick> :P
[05:41] <libben> so anything kewl in there yet jpatrick ?
[05:41] <jpatrick> libben: no
[05:41] <strike4ce> Should I have backports enabled  in my repository?
[05:42] <strike4ce> !backports
[05:45] <jpatrick> libben: just a problem with kubuntu-desktop
[05:45] <libben> whats that?
[05:45] <jpatrick> libben: kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kde-guidance but it is not going to be installed
[05:46] <libben> so the problem is its not being installed? or it deps on it. and it shouldent dep on it?
[05:46] <Riddell> loka like guidance is waiting on python2.4-kde3 to be updated
[05:47] <Riddell> looks like
[05:47] <jpatrick> Riddell: yes
[05:47] <Riddell> for which we'll have to wait for \sh to get of his plane :)
[05:49] <jpatrick> libben: here's the thing: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/410030
[05:51] <libben> hmm... pain in teh *** =)
[05:51] <libben> how long has dapper been out now ?
[05:51] <libben> a week?
[05:51] <jpatrick> libben: yes
[05:52] <libben> the prel date is around vista if not mistaking ?
[05:52] <libben> that will be fun to see how it developes
[05:52] <jpatrick> libben: it'll win
[05:53] <libben> well, yes and no.
[05:53] <libben> in our view yes.
[05:53] <strike4ce> When I add multiverse to my universe repositories should I add that to the security componenets too?
[05:53] <libben> in world domination no =)
[05:53] <strike4ce> libben: ?
[05:53] <libben> strike4ce: what are u using ?
[05:54] <libben> breezy?
[05:54] <strike4ce> adept
[05:54] <strike4ce> breezy
[05:54] <libben> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/410034
[05:55] <libben> thats my sources.list dont make it more complicated then it is.
[05:56] <strike4ce> libben: thats not what im talking about.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:59] <libben> its easier to just copy paste to the sources.list =)
[05:59] <libben> but yeah..... add those to
[06:01] <strike4ce> libben: thanx
[06:03] <Russel-Athletic> somebody has composite and kde running? mine is freezing at the welcome screen
[06:03] <Russel-Athletic> or loading screen
[06:09] <_manveru> i have had composite running
[06:09] <_manveru> but i kicked it, since kde hung every two hours
[06:10] <_manveru> hang? :)
[06:10] <_manveru> it seems to be quite unstable still...
[06:11] <Russel-Athletic> gnarf... i want composite now and stable and everything :)
[06:11] <chx> what's this composite thingy?
[06:12] <chx> does not sound like a kde feature, 'cos then it'll be komposite :P
[06:12] <Riddell> it's X
[06:12] <chx> (i have not forgotten poor old kandalf.)
[06:12] <chx> Riddell: hi
[06:12] <Riddell> and the KDE controller is tragicaly called kompmgr
[06:12] <chx> nice name
[06:13] <chx> omit the o, this is too easy to pronounce :P
[06:13] <Mez> hey Riddell
[06:13] <Russel-Athletic> hey gwenview is aboslutely a kde app... i wondered why on my kubuntu there is a gnome app till i read the wiki article :)
[06:13] <Mez> I'll be arriving tomorrow instead lol
[06:13] <Mez> I forgot my passport
[06:13] <Riddell> Mez: rk
[06:13] <Riddell> erk
[06:14] <hussam> I ran composite on kde for a while. it was fast but it had some visual problems. some windows would only get half shown
[06:14] <Mez> Ridell - BA kindly changed my flight to tomorrow
[06:15] <Mez> free of charge
[06:15] <Mez> so I just had to pay an extra 34 to get back to birmingham
[06:15] <Mez> which nI'm on the way to now
[06:16] <Mez> so, I'll miss ubuntu love day
[06:16] <Mez> but, ah well
[06:17] <guest> iuip
[06:17] <jpatrick> guest: hello
[06:17] <Mez> guest ... ?
[06:17] <R0N1N> yup
[06:17] <R0N1N> what chanel is this??
[06:18] <jpatrick> R0N1N: the #kubuntu channel
[06:18] <R0N1N> hi Mez
[06:18] <R0N1N> hi jPatrick
[06:18] <Mez> hi
[06:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[06:19] <Mez> Riddell, is there a channel for U?BZ? (and whats the net connection like there ?)
[06:19] <R0N1N> what chanel is this??
[06:19] <chx> hmmm i read up on this Xcomposite thingy -- ok looks awesome, but is it really useable? for example, how much information can your brain handle at any given time...? 
[06:19] <chx> this ronin figure is a bot, i guess?
[06:20] <R0N1N> what
[06:20] <jpatrick> chx: looks like he's/she's lost
[06:20] <Mez> R0N1N, it's #kubuntu, do you need some help?
[06:21] <R0N1N> actually yes
[06:21] <Mez> then ask R0N1N , dont beat about the bush
[06:21] <Riddell> chx: it's not for information, it's for eye candy
[06:22] <R0N1N> I'm looking the IM  which can support for the web cam, do u have any idea????
[06:22] <jpatrick> R0N1N: Kopete has webcam support
[06:22] <chx> Riddell: eye candy, that's cool, but... oh well.
[06:23] <R0N1N> is kopete support for KDE???
[06:23] <Riddell> Mez: don't think there's a specific ubz channel
[06:23] <R0N1N> I thought ist fo GNOME
[06:23] <Riddell> net connection is good, this being north america
[06:23] <mpmc> kopte was made for KDE
[06:24] <R0N1N> I ever try it, but not success
[06:25] <R0N1N> It can not view the cam
[06:25] <jpatrick> R0N1N: the KDE 3.5 Beta 1 or 2 Kopete can
[06:26] <R0N1N> really??
[06:26] <R0N1N> I use KDE 3.4
[06:27] <R0N1N> ok, I'll try later... thks
[06:27] <libben> To celebrate their victory, Renault put one of their RS25 V10 Formula 1 engines on the dyno machine and programmed the engine management to make the engine sing!
[06:27] <libben> http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/24/renault-v10-engine-sings
[06:29] <nikkia> libben, my parents' neighbour (about 1/4 mile away) used to tune racing engines for a living, he'd often have V14's running, they were deafening even 1/4 mile away :)
[06:30] <libben> tune ? lol =)
[06:30] <nikkia> libben: yeah, you know, as in optimise for performance
[06:38] <jpatrick> libben: I think there a new KOffice in Dapper
[06:39] <libben> i havent tried koffice yet
[06:39] <libben> barely uses openoffice.
[06:40] <jpatrick> libben: Krita's almost there
[06:41] <jpatrick> libben: I think it's http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/svn-koffice.html
[06:43] <poimen> how do I connect a Windows Xp pc to my kubuntu system via network ???
[06:44] <chx> smb4k
[06:44] <poimen> I have to download that?
[06:44] <chx> i apt-get 'd and worked nice
[06:44] <jpatrick> poimen: yes
[06:45] <chx> komba2 may be useful, too
[06:45] <poimen> komba2 _____ is the gui?
[06:46] <Spudchat> rdesktop is nice
[06:46] <poimen> rdesktop?
[06:46] <ubuntu> hi all
[06:46] <ubuntu> one question
[06:46] <Spudchat> lol oops wrong way for ubuntu to windows connections
[06:47] <chi> whoooo, ubuntu is here.. ;)
[06:47] <ubuntu> i am runing kubuntu live cd
[06:47] <poimen> rdesktop and komba are what guis?
[06:47] <ubuntu> and i want to read from a usb pendrive
[06:47] <Spudchat> command line then gives you the login screen
[06:47] <ubuntu> i am trying to mount it
[06:47] <ubuntu> but i dont know what the root password is
[06:48] <libben> no root password
[06:48] <troth> the password is: new england clam chowder
[06:48] <libben> its ur userpassword
[06:48] <libben> hmm
[06:48] <chx> livecd?
[06:48] <chx> sudo su
[06:48] <libben> that sentance, isnt that from major in simpsons?
[06:48] <troth> jk
[06:48] <ubuntu> i type su
[06:48] <chx> type sudo su
[06:48] <ubuntu> but password?
[06:49] <ubuntu> i try blanc password
[06:49] <ubuntu> ok
[06:49] <ubuntu> thanks
[06:49] <troth> libben: ace ventura, the he proceeds to ask 'the red or the white'..........
[06:49] <libben> k
[06:49] <ubuntu> but when i conect the pendrive it should read it automatically isnt it?
[06:49] <libben> yes it should
[06:50] <ubuntu> then i dont know what is happening
[06:50] <troth> on my live breezy cd, it wouldnt mount my hds, when i installed it was sorted though
[06:51] <troth> said something like "cannot mount device, blah blah, blah"
[06:51] <ubuntu> well
[06:51] <ubuntu> i have mounted the usb manually
[06:52] <ubuntu> and it works
[06:53] <poimen> chx : hi now I just have to connect the cable to my system and win xp system and open komba?
[07:03] <strike4ce> Should I put my cdrw/dvd name in xorg file?
[07:04] <strike4ce> ??
[07:04] <troth> does anyone know the linux "equivelent" of the dos command 'ipconfig' i need to check my router ports and i forgot my router's ip
[07:06] <libben> ifconfig
[07:07] <Knowerrors> Hi all, can someone recommend a decent download manager for kubunut, I need something with a really good resume feature if my dialup gets interuppted or my computer is rebooted in the middle of a download
[07:07] <libben> ifconfig - configure a network interface
[07:07] <jpatrick> Knowerrors: KGet
[07:07] <stbain> Knowerrors: what jpatrick said
[07:07] <troth> libben: lol, thx man
[07:07] <libben> Knowerrors: what stbain said from jpatrick 
[07:08] <Knowerrors> cool, will check it out... does it integrate well with konqueror or firefox?
[07:08] <jpatrick> Knowerrors: yes
[07:08] <libben> otherwise i would rec a ftp client =)
[07:08] <stbain> konq, yes... firefox, not so much so
[07:08] <stbain> firefox has its own internal download manager
[07:08] <stbain> and various pulgins/extensions to enhance it
[07:08] <troth> hmm, connection rfused...
[07:08] <jpatrick> Knowerrors: but you can set up Firefox to use KGet
[07:09] <Knowerrors> yeah, which I tried, would not resume the file I was downloading
[07:09] <Knowerrors> I had got disconnected and had to reboot, restarted firfox, looked and download manager, and it just sat there on the file, not doing anything
[07:10] <jpatrick> Knowerrors: why reboot?
[07:10] <hussam> what are python2.4-zopeinterface and python2.4-twisted? Can I safely remove these packages?
[07:10] <hussam> python2.4-twisted-bin as well
[07:11] <jpatrick> hussam: apt-cache show python2.4-zopeinterface
[07:12] <Knowerrors> the computer was going over night downloading... and my isp often disconnects me after 2 hours
[07:12] <Knowerrors> so I have kppp set to auto reconnect
[07:12] <Knowerrors> but firfox didn't keep downloading
[07:12] <hussam> jpatrick: I got that. Nothing depends on those packages. so it is safe to remove?
[07:13] <Knowerrors> I looked at my modem lights at night, and they had stopped blinking, so I thought the download was done and hit the power down switch
[07:14] <jpatrick> hussam: This package contains the interface definitions for the use with python2.4.
[07:14] <hussam> jpatrick: so I should keep it?
[07:14] <jpatrick> hussam: yep
[07:15] <Riddell> ** #ubz for conference discussion
[07:15] <hussam> jpatrick: what about python2.4-twisted?
[07:15] <jpatrick> hussam: it depends on python2.4-zopeinterface
[07:16] <Knowerrors> getting Kget now... btw, how do I make programs like Synaptic and Firefox look good with kde style wise?
[07:17] <troth> i keep getting this message 'If you have a router/firewall, please check that you have port 6881 UDP open' i know what this means but how do i do it in linux
[07:18] <kalenedrael> Do you have a router?
[07:18] <troth> yes
[07:18] <kalenedrael> Go to the router config and forward port 6881 to your IP address.
[07:18] <troth> in the web browser?
[07:19] <troth> or on the actual hard disk?
[07:20] <hydrogen> is anyone here having trouble with qt designer loading?
[07:22] <nalioth> troth: in your external router
[07:22] <nalioth> troth: visit portforward.com
[07:23] <dm> is it better to install from Ubuntu CD and switch over to KDE or, just install Kubuntu cd
[07:24] <troth> nalioth: got it now thx
[07:25] <nalioth> dm: the end result is exactly the same
[07:25] <dm> nalioth what are the correct repositories?
[07:25] <dm> !tell dm about repositories
[07:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dm about msg the bot
[07:26] <Knowerrors> Hey all, been having a weird problem, every time I start the computer up after being off, it doesn't properly detect video card and desktop is huge
[07:26] <Knowerrors> then if I restart, it comes back fine
[07:26] <_unknown> hi
[07:26] <_unknown> there
[07:27] <Knowerrors> any ideas to fix this, really weird
[07:30] <fatbrain> can I automaticly install the suggested packages when doing an apt-get?
[07:30] <plbgnr_> hello I don't understand this: I did mount ntfs partition (as root) and I see content of this partition in mc but not in console (ls -la) can anybody explain why?
[07:35] <dm> Can someone please Paste their /etc/apt/sources.list please
[07:36] <hussam> does kpdf require xpdf-utils and xpdf-common or can I remove those and keep kpdf?
[07:36] <Riddell> hussam: I don't think it requires either
[07:37] <Riddell> although kfile pdf plugin does
[07:37] <Riddell> in KDE 3.4 at leas
[07:37] <Riddell> least
[07:37] <hussam> Riddell: so I keep them?
[07:38] <nalioth> dm did ubotu not send you a link?
[07:38] <Riddell> hussam: depends on what you're trying to do
[07:39] <hussam> Riddell: I'm just trying to remove unneeded stuff that are not dependancies of other packages
[07:39] <dm> nalioth nope
[07:39] <nalioth> dm: well heads up
[07:40] <dm> nalioth tried using ubuntuguide.org but thats all hoary, changed all hoary to breezy, but got 4 errosrs
[07:40] <nalioth> dm: please dont use ubuntuguide
[07:40] <yasser> how do i change the kmenu button to the one i downloaded from kdelook?
[07:40] <hussam> Riddell: stuff that arent required but any kde packages
[07:40] <nalioth> dm: please take out the stuff you put in from ubuntuguide
[07:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dm about ubuntuguide
[07:40] <dm> nalioth thats all hoary stuff :(
[07:40] <yasser> how do i change the kmenu button to the one i downloaded from kdelook?
[07:40] <hussam> Riddell: I guess I'll just keep <Riddell>
[07:41] <hussam> Riddell: I guess I'll just keep xpdf-utils and xpdf-common 
[07:41] <nalioth> dm: read the factoid. there's one for hoary and one for breezy
[07:42] <nalioth> dm: and seriously, i advise you to use the breezy sources.list in the factoid intead of yours (ubuntuguide will kill your box quick, esp it's repo recommendations)
[07:43] <dm> nalioth Factoid ? lol im confused
[07:43] <nalioth> dm: read your private msgs
[07:43] <dm> nalioth aye, i had to reinstall everythinb because something was messed up bad
[07:43] <dm> nalioth im reading them, but where is the factoid
[07:44] <nalioth> !sources
[07:44] <dm> nalioth AH got id
[07:44] <dm> nalioth got it, sorry running on 3 hours of sleep
[07:45] <nalioth> dm: using ubuntuguide info, will definitely cause you to reinstall
[07:45] <marteus> hi - how comes i cannot scan for wifinetworks yet now i am connected to one?
[07:45] <dm> nalioth i use it to install stuff like java, flash and stuff
[07:45] <nalioth> dm: please do not
[07:45] <dm> nalioth is there a better guide thats easy to read
[07:45] <nalioth> dm: you're in it
[07:46] <dm> lol
[07:47] <nalioth> dm: the ubuntuguide was written for warty warthog.
[07:48] <dm> ah
[07:50] <nalioth> dm: it's not a question of "if" it will break your breezy, but "when" or "how soon"
[07:50] <dm> nalioth hmm that sucks, proibily why i had to reinstall twice now
[07:53] <dm> nalioth any way to completly get rid of gnome when Kubuntu is done installing ?
[07:53] <nalioth> dm: piece by piece, but i'd personally leave it
[08:01] <_thiago> hey hi everyone!
[08:02] <_yasser> hi
[08:06] <_thiago> How do I exchange my KDE 3.4.2 for the 3.5 beta 2?
[08:07] <_thiago> ?
[08:07] <nalioth> _thiago: i believe it tells you on kubuntu.org
[08:08] <_thiago> thanks! IS there too many bugs in this beta2 ?
[08:09] <_thiago> Does it worth to install the KDE 3.5 beta 2?
[08:09] <nalioth> The_Vox: what part of "beta" confuses you?
[08:10] <_thiago> Are there worth improvements? 
[08:11] <nalioth> _thiago: it's a beta. it has improvements (hence the higher version number)
[08:16] <The_Vox> nalioth: uhm....uh?
[08:22] <musashiden> hmm, i have a question about konqueror
[08:22] <musashiden> how do i make it so when it opens, it automatically shows google?
[08:22] <musashiden> because i disabled that main KDE screen. and now it shows a blank screen when i open it
[08:23] <musashiden> yes, i have google set as my main page
[08:23] <libben> what do i type to flush the system?  iwanna clear the ram and etc etc. i want it to be as a reboot state =)
[08:25] <moohaad> hi room
[08:25] <musashiden> anyone knows an answer to my problem?
[08:25] <dm> Im having a hell of a time trying to set up my network in KDE after a fresh install
[08:26] <dm> I cant change my WEP key in netowrk settings.. anyone help a guy out?
[08:26] <moohaad> how can I disable hotplug
[08:26] <sampan> does kde have a digital cam application?
[08:26] <libben> what u mean digital cam app?
[08:26] <libben> plug it in and it appears usually =)
[08:26] <sampan> when i try to download pics from my canon powershot, konq gives me a "process died unexpectedly"
[08:27] <sampan> yeah it appears, but i can't download any pics
[08:27] <sampan> an icon on the desktop doesn't really qualify as "useful" when i'm trying to actually view and save the pics, ya know?
[08:28] <jpat|away> sampan: digiKam
[08:29] <sampan> command not found -- i suppose i have to install it 
[08:29] <sampan> just wondering if there was one already installed i guess
[08:29] <jpat|away> sampan: sudo apt-get install digikam
[08:30] <sampan> yep -- it's on it's way ... just didn't know if there was a different app already installed -- hence my initial question :)
[08:31] <_thiago> Hi u people again
[08:32] <jpatrick> _thiago: hello
[08:34] <poimen> hi
[08:34] <_thiago> Could someoe help me with my kubuntu? the problem is that I can only play sounds from one app at time... thats really boring
[08:34] <poimen> I need help with samba and komba2
[08:35] <poimen> I have conected a crosover cable from my PC to a Xp laptop
[08:35] <poimen> and I run komba2 and I dont kwon what to do?
[08:35] <poimen> It does not get detected or nothing :(
[08:41] <sampan> yay digikam worked perfect
[08:46] <jpatrick> sampan: :)
[08:48] <sampan> i sorta remembered digikam being installed by default with hoary, so i wasn't sure why it wasn't there with breezy -- or maybe my memory is playing tricks on me again -- it has a disturbing tendency to do that 
[08:51] <terminal1> Hello I am new to Linux and just installed Kubuntu
[08:51] <_thiago> Does anyone know how to play sound in two or more apps at the same time?
[08:51] <terminal1> I was hoping someone can help me a little
[08:51] <_thiago> say it terminal
[08:51] <terminal1> I cant not seem to understand how to install downloaded software
[08:51] <terminal1> for instance i have a file with .sh extension, when I click it nothing happens
[08:52] <terminal1> I also downloaded Linux Netscape and when I open the file netscape-installer it opens to some editor program showing me scripting
[08:52] <terminal1> can anyone help?
[08:52] <jpatrick> use apt
[08:53] <sampan> terminal1  the netscape sounds like it needs to be made into an "executable" file
[08:53] <terminal1> how do I do this?
[08:53] <nalioth> terminal1: dont d/l software. use adept
[08:53] <sampan> (and jpatrick)
[08:54] <terminal1> but from what I could see adept only allows me to install what is on the list
[08:54] <nalioth> terminal1: k menu > run command > "kdesu adept"
[08:54] <nalioth> terminal1: what program do you want?
[08:54] <terminal1> netscape navigator
[08:54] <sampan> terminal1  have you edited your sources.list file to let you install from the repositories?
[08:54] <jpatrick> eww
[08:55] <terminal1> how do I do this, sorry to be a pain, only just learning Linux
[08:56] <sampan> no need to apologize -- everyone was a beginner once
[08:56] <sampan> some of us (myself) still are
[08:56] <nalioth> terminal1: netscape is a commercial ad injector, use mozilla browser or firefox
[08:56] <jpatrick> or Konqueror
[08:57] <hydrogen> its been done
[08:57] <hydrogen> wine++
[08:57] <sampan> lol :/
[08:58] <terminal1> lol
[08:58] <terminal1> ok to my other
[08:58] <sampan> the real question is why would anyone want to do that?  :X
[08:58] <nalioth> sampan: the alternate universe has merged. search ubuntuforums.org for what you mentioned
[08:58] <sampan> proof of concept?
[08:58] <terminal1> I am trying to install Asterisk@Home, i have the full install files, but need to run install.sh
[08:58] <terminal1> but once again nothing happens when clicked in Konqueror
[08:59] <nalioth> what is asterisk@home?
[08:59] <terminal1> it is a open source PBX software using VoiP (SIP)
[08:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell terminal1 about cli
[08:59] <terminal1> This is what has caused me to use Linux
[09:00] <nalioth> terminal1: .sh files are meant to be run in terminal
[09:00] <libben> what do i type to flush the system?  iwanna clear the ram and etc etc. i want it to be as it is when its booted. 
[09:00] <Sonny_Wertzik> hi
[09:01] <Sonny_Wertzik> Can someone tell me if there is a way to devote more system resources to one specific program?
[09:02] <nalioth> Sonny_Wertzik: nice
[09:02] <Sonny_Wertzik> nalioth, whaaaa?
[09:02] <Sonny_Wertzik> nalioth, is that a program?
[09:02] <nalioth> Sonny_Wertzik: open a terminal and type "man nice"
[09:03] <Sonny_Wertzik> nalioth, kool thanx
[09:03] <terminal1> Thanks, I am trying the shell now
[09:05] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:05] <jpatrick> lo slow-motion 
[09:05] <slow-motion> hi jpatrick 
[09:05] <terminal1> no good, full of errors like ./install.sh: line 24: cd: /var/aah_load: No such file or directory
[09:07] <terminal1> --import: unknown option
[09:07] <terminal1> rpm: To install rpm packages on Debian systems, use alien. See README.Debian.
[09:07] <terminal1> also like the above
[09:08] <nalioth> terminal1: rpms should not be used
[09:08] <terminal1> what is rpms?
[09:09] <jpatrick> terminal1: RedHat Packages
[09:10] <terminal1> i c, so will my Asterisk@Home not work on Kubuntu
[09:10] <jpatrick> terminal1: unless you use alien
[09:10] <jpatrick> !alien
[09:10] <ubotu> from memory, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[09:13] <terminal1> thanks will look now
[09:13] <_liquidbinary_> hi!
[09:14] <jpatrick> _liquidbinary_: hello
[09:14] <nalioth> terminal1: one should always look in the repos first for programs
[09:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell terminal1 about repos
[09:16] <sampan> surfing at sourceforge for asterisk@home ... it seems like it's a distro-specific (centOS) thing? 
[09:16] <dm> stpere i still cant get this going in KDE, if i set it up with with the gnome network settings it works, but the KDE one is fucked up
[09:18] <terminal1> ok I will challenge the Asterisk problem later
[09:18] <dm> Anyone have the same problem as me, network settings, doesnt change any settings, doesnt go into administrator mode or anything !
[09:18] <terminal1> How do I find and install MSN & Yahoo chat? Adept found nothing
[09:19] <dm> terminal1 kopete
[09:20] <libben> kopete
[09:20] <_liquidbinary_> dm: you can't get into root?
[09:21] <terminal1> Also I get this error on Netscape install from shell..  ./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:22] <terminal1> I was wanting to use actual MSN and Yahoo
[09:22] <dm> _liquidbinary_ when i try to go in to "administrator mode" in Network settings, it asks me my password, then i type it it, and it says detecting network blah blah, then it goes back to regular non admin mode
[09:22] <sampan> terminal1  kopete can connect to both MSN and Yahoo
[09:22] <dm> terminal1 you cant, go
[09:22] <sampan> it's just a kde/linux interface for those chat networks 
[09:22] <nalioth> terminal1: netscape and mozilla-browser are the exact same thing underneath
[09:23] <nalioth> terminal1: netscape is full of adware and aol crap
[09:23] <_liquidbinary_> dm: have you tried editing /etc/networks/interfaces manually?
[09:23] <sampan> terminal1  Asterisk@Home:  "It consists of applications, a provisioning system, an installer, and an operating system that, together, make a complete package ready for use as an out of the box PBX."  It includes a full Operating System!?!
[09:23] <dm> _liquidbinary im trying to make it so i dont have to , what did i fuck up . 
[09:24] <dm> _liquidbinary_ as it stands i have to go to the GNOME network settings to make ANYTHING work.
[09:24] <_liquidbinary_> dm: cat /etc/network/interfaces, see what comes up
[09:24] <terminal1> yes but CentOS with the ISO option is only command line, no GUI
[09:24] <_liquidbinary_> dm: is it detecting your network hardware correctly?
[09:24] <dm> _liquidbinary no such file or dir
[09:24] <terminal1> I would rather a system like this one, where I can do all my normal things as well
[09:25] <_liquidbinary_> dm: really? strange
[09:25] <dm> _liquidbinary_ i hate this
[09:25] <sampan> terminal1 i agree -- but I suspect the asterisk@home might not install except with that specific OS
[09:25] <dm> _liquidbinary_ i just reinstalled ubuntu. it shouldnt be doing this
[09:25] <_liquidbinary_> dm: yes I feel your frustration, ls /etc/network, what files do you have in there?
[09:26] <sampan> terminal1  "Operating System: Project is OS Distribution-Specific"  on their project summary page on sourceforge
[09:26] <dm> _liquidbinary_ woops i misspelled it, can you link pastebin please?
[09:27] <_liquidbinary_> dm: is it the usually cast? i.e. if-down.d, if-up.d ?
[09:27] <dm> _liquidbinary_ http://pastebin.com/410236
[09:28] <_liquidbinary_> dm: your on your ubuntu box right now, correct?
[09:28] <dm> _liquidbinary_ yes
[09:29] <_liquidbinary_> dm: and your network is working ok?
[09:29] <treefrog> Hi can anyone tell me about the Amarok update.. it is not in teh adept upgrad list or the kynaptic list.. current version is listesd as 1.3.1!!?
[09:29] <dm> _liquidbinary_ only if i use the gnome network settings, but they dont load on startup
[09:29] <dm> _liquidbinary i cant edit anything with KDE's network settings
[09:30] <_liquidbinary_> dm: that is odd, can you do anything else as root in KDE?
[09:30] <dm> _liquidbinary lemme check
[09:30] <sampan> dm, have you updated your kubuntu?  i had a weird thing with administrator mode (clock setting) and there were some people in the first few days of breezy who reported not being able to use admin mode in settings -- maybe update fixes it?
[09:31] <dm> _liquidbinary_ yeah cant edit anything else either
[09:31] <dm> sampan doing update now
[09:31] <_liquidbinary_> the clock sync hung on me too, as well as the 'updating packages' during install
[09:32] <_liquidbinary_> dm: is this true when you open a shell and 'sudo -s -H'?
[09:32] <sampan> i simply couldn't change my clock settings -- not even with admin mode ... i would log in, make the change, and it simply wouldn't change
[09:32] <jpatrick> sampan: the admin mode bug...
[09:32] <sampan> yeah
[09:32] <dm> _liquidbinary_ yes
[09:33] <sampan> was a day-one install of breezy, so i solved by: install ubuntu, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :) worked fine
[09:33] <jpatrick> sampan: possible fix: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8681#c59
[09:33] <sampan> (at the expense of having gnome stuff gunking up my hd)
[09:33] <jpatrick> for KDE 3.4.3
[09:34] <_liquidbinary_> dm: what message comes up when you 'sudo -s -H' and you type in your current password?
[09:34] <_liquidbinary_> dm: it just won't validate you?
[09:34] <dm> _liquidbinary_ umm lemme check
[09:34] <dm> _liquidbinary_ it doesnt ask me for my pw
[09:35] <_liquidbinary_> do you get a # prompt?
[09:35] <dm> root@dmlinux:/home/dm#
[09:35] <dm> i can get to the root, but it doesnt ask for a password
[09:35] <_liquidbinary_> dm: well, it seems you are logged as root
[09:36] <_liquidbinary_> dm: when you vim any files with root priv., the changes do not last?
[09:36] <treefrog> Hi can anyone tell me about the Amarok update.. thought the new version was 1.3.5 but still getting 1.3.1 in adept?? am I doing something wrong??
[09:37] <sampan> jpatrick  luckily whatever was wrong with my kubuntu was fixed by just installing the kubuntu-desktop over top of gnome ubuntu ... but first few days of release i saw several people in here with that (but i'm too newb to help them -- have bookmarked that page though)
[09:37] <dm> _liquidbinary_ i wish i could show you, it would be so much easier.. What hapens is i go to network settings, and i hit "Administration mode" and it tries to load, then it doesnt go into Admin mode, and resets and sits at user mode
[09:37] <jpatrick> treefrog: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.5.php
[09:37] <_liquidbinary_> dm: did you install kubuntu, or did you install ubuntu and installed KDE?
[09:37] <jpatrick> sampan: =)
[09:38] <dm> _liquidbinary_ i tried 5 different installs of Kubuntu each came up with a "The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value of 1)  EVERYTIME on the same file.
[09:38] <dm> _liquidbinary_ so im ubuntu , upgrade to KDE
[09:39] <treefrog> jpatrick: thanks. I saw that. but is it not in the repositories yet?
[09:39] <jpatrick> treefrog: no
[09:40] <dragonfly> hi
[09:40] <dragonfly> my friend is in mozambique
[09:40] <treefrog> Ok at least I'm not doing something wrong.. thanks.. 
[09:40] <dragonfly> she works on a mac and i am working on kubuntu
[09:40] <_liquidbinary_> dm: ok, I understand your problem now, hold on
[09:40] <dragonfly> i want to share a folder with her, how do i do this???
[09:40] <dragonfly> please help
[09:41] <boreal> hello everyone
[09:41] <libben> wich one to install for having vnc installed and running ?
[09:41] <_liquidbinary_> dm: I configured my network via the interfaces file, when I go into network settings in KDE, i'm getting the same thing as you
[09:41] <redguy> kicker keeps segfaulting while I'm ending the x session, anyone knows what can I do with it?
[09:41] <libben> i want to be able to allways connect to my box and running, not just a ssh terminal
[09:42] <dm> _liquidbinary_ on my last install of KDE i was able to get into it fine though
[09:42] <moohaad> how can I disable detectting my dvb card at boot 
[09:43] <nalioth> libben: ask uncle google about "x forwarding"
[09:44] <moohaad> pleas 
[09:44] <_liquidbinary_> dm: have you tried creating a real root account, and using that password in the KDE network settings?
[09:44] <poimen> someone can help me with komba2 and samba?
[09:44] <dm> _liquidbinary how do i do that
[09:44] <poimen> i NEED to connect a Xp system to this kubuntu system
[09:45] <_liquidbinary_> dm: I know, i'm trying to google 'ubuntu create root account'
[09:45] <moohaad> how can I disable detectting my dvb card at boot 
[09:45] <poimen> I need to pass movie files from that pc to mine
[09:45] <dm> _liquidbinary im using my root pw , all my pw are the same
[09:46] <_liquidbinary_> dm: yeah, but try this at a shell, type in 'su' and then supply your current password
[09:46] <_liquidbinary_> dm: it seems to fail because it's expecting a real root account password
[09:46] <nalioth> libben: use sudo -s
[09:47] <dm> _liquidbinary_ su and typed in my PW , now im root@dmlinx
[09:47] <_liquidbinary_> dm: oh
[09:47] <_liquidbinary_> dm: it fails for me
[09:49] <poimen> poimen@catv:~$ nmblookup "*" -U localhost
[09:49] <poimen> querying * on 127.0.0.1
[09:49] <poimen> name_query failed to find name *
[09:49] <poimen> poimen@catv:~$ smbclient -L localhost
[09:49] <poimen> [15:49]  <poimen> Error connecting to 127.0.0.1 (Connection refused)
[09:49] <poimen> [15:49]  <poimen> Connection to localhost failed
[09:50] <poimen> I get those error with samba :(
[09:50] <_liquidbinary_> dm: try this, open a shell and type in 'sudo passwd root'
[09:51] <_liquidbinary_> dm: and supply a different root password, different from your normal user pass
[09:51] <poimen> I need help :(
[09:51] <poimen> please someone
[09:52] <Tharabas> hola
[09:52] <Tharabas> estamos todos o falta alguien?
[09:52] <_liquidbinary_> hi
[09:52] <poimen> Tharabas : hola
[09:52] <poimen> Tharabas : sabes de samba?
[09:53] <dm> _liquidbinary_ ok lemme try that
[09:53] <Tharabas> hola poimen
[09:53] <Tharabas> la vredad es que se muy poco de todo 
[09:53] <_liquidbinary_> dm: use that new root password in the KDE network settings
[09:53] <Tharabas> y tu
[09:53] <Tharabas> cpontrolas de kde?
[09:53] <poimen> Tharabas : yo mas o menos si kde uso
[09:54] <Tharabas> con que dictro?
[09:54] <dm> _liquidbinary incorrect password, omg im going to fucking smash this UBUNTU CD WITH A FUCKING HAMMER
[09:54] <nalioth> !es
[09:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:54] <Riddell> Tharabas: #kubuntu-es
[09:55] <_liquidbinary_> dm: it states incorrect password? your user password?
[09:55] <_liquidbinary_> dm: I got that info here: http://www.arson-network.com/index.php?class=tutorial&subargs=713
[09:55] <Tharabas> weno pues
[09:55] <Tharabas> alguien me podria resolver alguna duda?
[09:56] <nalioth> !es
[09:56] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:56] <nalioth> Tharabas: espanol en #ubuntu-es, por favor, ingles aqui
[09:57] <jpatrick> or #kubuntu-es
[09:57] <Tharabas> sorry
[09:57] <Tharabas> bye
[09:58] <terminal1> Hello back again
[09:58] <terminal1> How do I login to the terminal as root?
[09:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell terminal1 about root
[09:58] <nalioth> terminal1: use sudo -s
[09:59] <dm> _liquidbinary_ i changed it back to my previous pw and it seems to work , but again i cant EDIT my WEP key
[10:00] <_liquidbinary_> dm: you are able to configure the KDE network settings now?
[10:00] <jpatrick> _liquidbinary_: not with the kdesu bug (which now has a possible fix) laying around
[10:01] <_liquidbinary_> dm: i'm afraid i'm not much help
[10:01] <_liquidbinary_> jpatrick: ty
[10:01] <terminal1> Package libgdk - What is this???
[10:01] <avinoam> Question- i set the language option in kde to switch languages with a key combination and it doesn't work- what should i do?
[10:02] <Hentai-sama> avinoam where is this option? im looking for something to allow me do just that
[10:03] <Hentai-sama> kcontrol/system settings > ?
[10:03] <avinoam> Hentai-sama, in the control panel
[10:03] <octan> hello people.. im going to install a new distro on a pc of mine.. how is kubuntu
[10:04] <octan> compeard to slackweare
[10:04] <nalioth> octan: um, not a good idea asking in here, (since we are kinda predisposed to answer with the channel name)
[10:04] <nalioth> kubuntu rocks
[10:04] <octan> naa not that kind of info i neeed
[10:05] <octan> more the diffrence betewwn em
[10:05] <octan> system diffrent
[10:05] <jpatrick> octan: kubuntu use the Debian package system
[10:05] <_liquidbinary_> octan: well, same text installation just like slackware, but overall, easier to maintain
[10:06] <jpatrick> kubuntu has a prettier website...
[10:06] <octan> thats all i need to know
[10:06] <octan> ;P
[10:06] <octan> dl it
[10:06] <nalioth> kubuntu is based on debian
[10:06] <octan> well i can learn that too
[10:06] <jpatrick> debian unstable :)
[10:06] <octan> it used yast?
[10:06] <Riddell> stabalised debian unstable
[10:07] <jpatrick> octan: It has Adept
[10:07] <Riddell> hi mez, #ubz open
[10:07] <octan> ih like urpmi in madriva
[10:07] <_liquidbinary_> only problem I've had with kubuntu was it hung on the intallation, the part where it's configuring network packages, or something of the like
[10:08] <nalioth> octan: pkg mangling is apt-get based
[10:08] <octan> how about compiling sources.. no problems there
[10:08] <Mez> hey all
[10:08] <jpatrick> hi Mez
[10:09] <_liquidbinary_> octan: I would use checkinstall when compiling sources and installing though
[10:10] <Knowerrors> Hey all, any way to change sudo so it doesn't always ask for password?
[10:10] <octan> yes
[10:10] <octan> use exept
[10:10] <octan> make a execpt script
[10:11] <octan> and put the passwork in a file
[10:12] <redguy> Knowerrors: man sudoers
[10:12] <redguy> ?
[10:12] <_dm> Is there a better wifi manager then Kwifi?
[10:12] <Knowerrors> just curious, why is it this way?  In my straight debian install, I used sudo and it never asked for a password, seems overly complicated like this, would like to change things back
[10:12] <Knowerrors> but I like kubuntu in most other ways
[10:12] <Knowerrors> just not the way it handles sudo and root
[10:14] <_dm> _liquidbinary_ still there?
[10:15] <jpatrick> _dm: there is
[10:15] <_dm> jpatrick what?
[10:15] <octan> dl at 305 KB/sec
[10:15] <octan> :) yay
[10:15] <jpatrick> Wireless Assiantant
[10:15] <_dm> Apt-get ?
[10:15] <hussam> if I replace my cd-rw drive with a new one, ( it will remain of course hdc ) , will I have to reconfigure anything in kubuntu or is this done automatically at boot?
[10:16] <jpatrick> _dm: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21832
[10:16] <octan> damn that dvd iso is big 3.1 Gb
[10:17] <octan> at last my 3Mbit line as come to use :)
[10:18] <_dm> jpatrick does it even work on ubuntu i dont see a package for it
[10:18] <jpatrick> _dm: use the source
[10:19] <octan> kubunte != ubuntu or is it ==
[10:19] <nalioth> octan: x/k/ubuntu are the same underneath the gui, yes
[10:19] <octan> ok
[10:21] <octan> nalioth how is the hw support? is the kernel source pached. as madriva does it ther
[10:21] <_dm> jpatrick eek i forgot, what do i need to install to support "make"
[10:21] <octan> *it/with
[10:21] <Aapzak> hello guys/girls, goodday everyone
[10:21] <jpatrick> Aapzak: hello
[10:22] <octan> hi
[10:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell octan about hardware
[10:22] <jpatrick> _dm: it's "./configure --prefix=/usr"
[10:22] <octan> nice
[10:23] <nalioth> jpatrick: --prefix is unnecessary
[10:23] <_dm> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:23] <nalioth> _dm: install "build-essential"
[10:23] <_dm> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:23] <jpatrick> nalioth: really?
[10:23] <nalioth> jpatrick: really
[10:23] <_dm> thanks nalioth
[10:23] <octan> nalioth since page
[10:23] <octan> thxz
[10:24] <octan> thats the most organized one i ever seen
[10:24] <_dm> anyone else have a problem of trying to enable wireless card and it turns right back off ?
[10:24] <octan> only missing is mobo's :P
[10:25] <Aapzak> :)
[10:25] <jpatrick> _dm: kdesu bug :o
[10:25] <_dm> jpatrick how do  i fix it
[10:25] <`ph8> hi all, KDE is just too buggy for me and i'm wanting to convert to ubuntu/gnome from my kubuntu install - is there an easy cmd or can someone link me too a howto? ;)
[10:26] <jpatrick> _dm: see: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8681#c59
[10:26] <Hobbsee> `ph8: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:26] <Aapzak> Hobbsee: the other way around
[10:26] <`ph8> and that'll remove the kde stuff Hobbsee ?
[10:26] <Aapzak> he want KDE out, Gnome in
[10:26] <Hobbsee> Aapzak: that'll get gnome in
[10:26] <`ph8> so what Hobbsee said was right.. ?
[10:26] <`ph8> idd
[10:26] <`ph8> will it get kde out?
[10:26] <Aapzak> no
[10:27] <Hobbsee> `ph8: then remove kdelibs*, and that will get rid of kde
[10:27] <jpatrick> `ph8: no
[10:27] <`ph8> it's weird that kubuntu-desktop isn't installed right?
[10:27] <nalioth> Hobbsee: howdy
[10:27] <Aapzak> did you install Kubuntu from scratch? or did you do a Ubuntu -> Kubuntu upgrade?
[10:27] <`ph8> kubuntu from scrath
[10:27] <`ph8> * scratch
[10:27] <Hobbsee> hey nalioth 
[10:27] <nalioth> `ph8: install "ubuntu-desktop"
[10:27] <strike4ce> How do I make a copy of a file and put it on my desktop?
[10:27] <_dm> jpatrick does it actually work?
[10:27] <`ph8> thanks guys i'll give that a go now
[10:28] <jpatrick> _dm: it's in testing
[10:28] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: cp /file/path /home/user/Desktop
[10:28] <Aapzak> you have two guys saying it now, it might work
[10:28] <jpatrick> _dm: for KDE 3.4.4
[10:28] <jpatrick> 3.4.3*
[10:29] <jpgeerets> hi folks
[10:29] <octan> hhi
[10:29] <jpgeerets> someone tryed hugin?
[10:29] <nalioth> `ph8: can leave all the kubuntu stuff in (not having kubuntu-desktop is PROBABLY why it was buggy)
[10:29] <octan> whats hugin
[10:29] <jpgeerets> its a photo stitch program
[10:29] <jpgeerets> it looks great
[10:29] <octan> nop
[10:30] <jpgeerets> but, i guess you never worked it Octane 
[10:30] <jpgeerets> :-)
[10:30] <_dm> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[10:30] <octan> right guess :P
[10:30] <jpgeerets> lol
[10:30] <jpgeerets> someone els does?
[10:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _dm about xincludes
[10:30] <jpgeerets> http://hugin.sourceforge.net/
[10:30] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: So how would I type this out to save to desktop?  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:31] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: cd /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/user/Desktop
[10:31] <Hobbsee> replace "user" with the user who's deskto you are copying to
[10:31] <Hobbsee> oops...
[10:31] <jpatrick> cp
[10:31] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/user/Desktop
[10:31] <Hobbsee> yes
[10:34] <boreal> i have grub installed by default... is installing lilo as simple as apt-get install lilo ?
[10:34] <octan> hu? jpgeerets make a sybolic link
[10:34] <octan> thats betetr to do
[10:34] <octan> ln -s /etc/X11 blb bla bla
[10:34] <octan> err i meant strike4ce
[10:35] <_dm> nalioth lol problem after problem checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[10:35] <Hobbsee> boreal: it's on the install cd too...
[10:36] <nalioth> _dm: everything it is complaining about is -dev pkgs
[10:36] <jpgeerets> a symbolic link to what..... Octan?
[10:36] <octan> jpgeerets it was for strike4ce
[10:36] <jpatrick> _dm: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
[10:36] <_dm> nalioth is there a package i should be installing?
[10:36] <nalioth> _dm: libqt*-dev
[10:37] <jpgeerets> ok, sorry
[10:37] <nalioth> _dm: open synaptic and search for 'libqt'
[10:37] <nalioth> or what jpatrick said
[10:37] <strike4ce> Is there a way I can go into fglrxconfig and name my monitor and its resolution without screwing everything up?  I finally have 3d and I dont want to lose it
[10:37] <strike4ce> I need to backup the X11 file so I can restore everything if it screws up
[10:38] <octan> ahh
[10:38] <jpatrick> i think he has adept...
[10:38] <_dm> aye im working under KDE
[10:38] <strike4ce> Hobbsee:  /user/ does that need to be my user name?
[10:39] <nalioth> strike4ce: yes it does
[10:39] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: yes, leave the /'s in
[10:40] <_dm> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[10:40] <_dm> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[10:40] <_dm> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[10:41] <_dm> nalioth umm wtf it says checking for KDE...configure : error: in the prefix, youve chosen are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So check this please or use another prefix
[10:41] <nalioth> _dm: install kde-devel
[10:42] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: now that its done.  if I cant get back what do I type to get it going from cli?   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/strike4ce/Desktop
[10:43] <_dm> nalioth hehe this is hard  stuff,  :/ just to install 1 program
[10:43] <jpatrick> _dm: you need the header file
[10:43] <octan> what kernel is Ubuntu 5.10 running
[10:43] <jpatrick> files*
[10:43] <nalioth> _dm: you are NOT installing one program, you are compiling one program
[10:43] <_dm> jpatrick what does that mean
[10:43] <nalioth> jpatrick: header file?
[10:43] <_dm> nalioth true :/
[10:43] <strike4ce> !cli
[10:43] <ubotu> cli is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[10:44] <jpatrick> octan: 2.6.12.16 I think
[10:44] <octan> ok,,
[10:44] <jpatrick> _dm: you have to compile the program :)
[10:44] <octan> good too. b/c i have crypted some of my partitions
[10:44] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: what are you trying to do?
[10:45] <jpatrick> octan: opposed to Slack's 2.4.31 kernel
[10:45] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: all you did was copy a file, that shouldnt have effected your xorg config at all
[10:45] <_dm> jpatrick  so i do sudo make install and it gives me http://pastebin.com/410313
[10:46] <jpatrick> _dm: :x
[10:46] <strike4ce> Well im going into fglrxconfig changing name of laptop monitor and changing resolution for mywxga screen.  i backed it up to desktop so I could find it easily if the Sh*T hits the fan.
[10:46] <jpatrick> _dm: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Header_file
[10:47] <strike4ce> Hobbsee:  Well im going into fglrxconfig changing name of laptop monitor and changing resolution for mywxga screen.  i backed it up to desktop so I could find it easily if the Sh*T hits the fan.
[10:47] <jpatrick> _dm: have you made it?
[10:47] <_dm> jpatrick so the wlankeeper prog you gave me i was supposed to download the .deb.asc as well? 
[10:47] <_dm> jpatrick no , i dont know how to :(
[10:47] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: lol...good idea, i'm presuming you would reconfigure xorg as well if you had to, but i'd assume you could copy the file back
[10:47] <jpatrick> _dm do "make"
[10:48] <_dm> jpatrick oh yeah done that, gives me the error i pasted you
[10:48] <jpatrick> ocuh
[10:49] <jpatrick> _dm: that deb was for kdebase
[10:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _dm about checkinstall
[10:49] <octan> jesus.. havent they heard of *tar.gz.. huuf only 18% of the dvd.iso 3.1 GB 
[10:49] <nalioth> _dm: please use checkinstall in the future
[10:49] <strike4ce> Hobbsee:  Well I dont wanna do it then if its going to do that cuz fglrxconfig is buggy when you pick the fgrlx driver.  So Could I just go in and edit instead?
[10:50] <nalioth> _dm: what are you trying to build?
[10:50] <_dm> nalioth some wifi manager jpatrick linked me
[10:50] <jpatrick> nalioth: Wireless Assistant
[10:50] <_dm> jpatrick http://pastebin.com/410316 thats all the text it displayed to me
[10:51] <nalioth> _dm: looks like dodgy code to me
[10:51] <_dm> i just want my wireless to work without having to use the gnome network settings !
[10:52] <jpatrick> _dm: try installing the deb package here: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8681#c59
[10:53] <strike4ce> is this good for my ati card.  One of the lines from fgl_glxgears:   2360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 472.000 FPS
[10:53] <jpatrick> oppss pushed the part button
[10:54] <_dm> jpatrick http://pastebin.com/410320
[10:54] <jpatrick> _dm: do you have KDE 3.4.3?
[10:55] <jpatrick> _dm: do "wget http://kubuntu.org/~jr/tmp/kdebase-bin_3.4.3-0ubuntu6_i386.deb"
[10:55] <_dm> jpatrick as far as i know yes
[10:55] <jpatrick> do that
[10:55] <jpatrick> then: "sudo dpkg --install kdebase-bin_3.4.3-0ubuntu6_i386.deb"
[10:55] <strike4ce> I need a good wireless manager
[10:55] <_dm> its done wat now
[10:56] <Aapzak> strike4ce: your glx gears score is regular Ati crap
[10:56] <Aapzak> it makes sense
[10:56] <nalioth> jpatrick: what is the difference in installing 'kdebase' in apt-get?
[10:56] <strike4ce> Aapzak: what do you mean crap?
[10:56] <_dm> jpatrick ok its installed i think, reboot?
[10:56] <jpatrick> nalioth: it's patched this one
[10:56] <Aapzak> strike4ce: Ati drivers under Linux are terrible
[10:56] <jpatrick> _dm: yep
[10:57] <jpatrick> _dm: or log out
[10:57] <_dm> jpatrick brb
[10:57] <strike4ce> Aapzak: iThose numbers arent good for a ATI Mobility radeon 9600 pro turbo 128mb?
[10:58] <Aapzak> strike4ce: they are what you can expect from ati
[10:58] <Aapzak> if you had nvidia, you would so much more FPS
[10:58] <strike4ce> Aapzak: So they're bad?
[10:58] <jpatrick> nalioth: it's meant to fix the kdesu problem...
[10:58] <Aapzak> any nvidia user here care to run glxgears for a sec?
[10:58] <nalioth> jpatrick: ah
[10:59] <Aapzak> strike4ce: ati drivers are terrible
[10:59] <strike4ce> Aapzak: you sure cuz how to says 1300-1400fps is good
[10:59] <Aapzak> nvidia people, tell us your score ...
[11:00] <strike4ce> Aapzak: its xorg-driver
[11:00] <Aapzak> yes, you have no 3d hardware acceleration
[11:00] <Aapzak> you woudl have the same score with any other non 3d card
[11:02] <strike4ce> Aapzak: I have 3d
[11:02] <Aapzak> software 3d
[11:02] <dm> jpatrick well it fixed THAT problem , but it still doing the same thing with the Enabling interface.. I hit Enable interface on my wireless network device, and it turns off again
[11:04] <jpatrick> dm: hmmm
[11:04] <Knowerrors> for sudo at bash "The password is stored by default for 15 minutes. After that time, you will need to enter your password again." Any way to change this 15 minute time limit?
[11:04] <strike4ce> Aapzak: whatever, its not ati issue its a linnux issue
[11:04] <jpatrick> Knowerrors: edit /etc/sudoers
[11:04] <Aapzak> sure strike4ce :)
[11:04] <jpatrick> Knowerrors: with visudo!!!!
[11:05] <strike4ce> Aapzak:  so if you're telling me the numbers are good for an ATI card on debian Linnux that is fine with me
[11:05] <Knowerrors> right, have already been in there, but didn't see a time limit entry ;)
[11:05] <Aapzak> strike4ce: it is.
[11:05] <dm> jpatrick any ideas?
[11:05] <jpatrick> open konsole and type systemsettings
[11:06] <jpatrick> see if there's any debug
[11:06] <redguy> Knowerrors: try looking for timestamp_timeout
[11:06] <dm> jpatrick do i sudo it
[11:06] <jpatrick> no
[11:07] <Knowerrors> redguy, what file is that entry in?
[11:07] <dm> jpatrick it just opens systemsettings, thats it
[11:07] <jpatrick> dm: never sudo GUIs
[11:07] <redguy> Knowerrors: /etc/sudoers of course
[11:07] <jpatrick> dm: now go the Network Settings
[11:07] <redguy> Knowerrors: but try to look for it in man sudoers
[11:08] <user1234> Hi there, can anyone tell me which groups should i use when adding another user?
[11:08] <Knowerrors> yeah, I'll try that man, cause its not in sudoers right now
[11:08] <jpatrick> dm: try to enable it
[11:08] <dm> jpatrick says the same thing , nothing in konsole
[11:08] <jpatrick> dm: :(
[11:09] <Knowerrors> redguy: found it, the default if not specified is 15 minutes
[11:09] <Knowerrors> so I gotta make an entry
[11:09] <dm> jpatrick it flashed enabled for about 1 second then disables itself
[11:09] <strike4ce> Aapzak: Do you make a practice of talking sh*t here when someone new is trying out linnux?
[11:10] <jpatrick> dm: keep pushing...
[11:10] <Aapzak> whatsup strike4ce ? what did I do?
[11:11] <strike4ce> Aapzak: I come in here asking about fgl_glxgears numbers and you talk smack?
[11:11] <Aapzak> allright, if you feel that way
[11:12] <octan> whats on cd3 & 4
[11:12] <strike4ce> Aapzak: How reliable is gl-glxgears?
[11:12] <dm> jpatrick it sat at "enabling" for a while then turned off again
[11:12] <strike4ce> Aapzak: i can play doom3 no problem
[11:12] <Aapzak> strike4ce: since you know better, why ask me, yell at someone else ...
[11:12] <jpatrick> dm: did you reboot?
[11:12] <dm> jpatrick i just did not too long ago
[11:12] <jpatrick> dm: right
[11:13] <strike4ce> Aapzak: I was asking.  When did I say I knew?
[11:13] <dm> jpatrick i have a spiffy blue kubuntu splash screen now :) instead of brown ubuntu 
[11:13] <jpatrick> dm: :)
[11:13] <Aapzak> strike4ce: I don't like the tone of your questions, I'm glad to talk, but not that way
[11:14] <octan> is only cd 1&2 needed to install kubuntu with kde?
[11:14] <strike4ce> Aapzak: You dont like my tone now?  Wow! Thats interesting.
[11:14] <Aapzak> in my experience the linux drivers for Ati suck.
[11:14] <jpatrick> octan: there only is one CD
[11:14] <Aapzak> please strike4ce leave it ... 
[11:15] <octan> dvd what is that then
[11:15] <octan> all cpu types?
[11:15] <jpatrick> octan: DVDs are bigger than CDs...
[11:16] <octan> yes but what more do the dvd iso got that cd .iso
[11:16] <jpatrick> octan: burn it
[11:16] <octan> im dl it
[11:16] <Aapzak> octan, there is just one Kubuntu x86 cd. Thatone installs everything you need, a complete running Kubuntu
[11:16] <Aapzak> everything else can be installed later over the net
[11:17] <Aapzak> (providing it;s working :)  )
[11:17] <octan> ahh so it got extra packs 
[11:17] <redguy> octan: if you would read three lines on http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php you would know what the difference between the cd and the dvd
[11:19] <octan> cool. so i can use it as a resque tool to. 
[11:19] <jpatrick> octan: yes...
[11:19] <octan> nice
[11:19] <Aapzak> I never use the DVD version because I run in way too much cdrom only machines
[11:20] <Aapzak> and since the cd got everything I need, I use the cd
[11:20] <octan> im free of cd's only have 8 dvdr left.. thats why i dl the iso file
[11:20] <Aapzak> then dvd is a more sensible choice :)
[11:20] <Aapzak> ehh
[11:20] <Aapzak> cd
[11:20] <Aapzak> :)
[11:20] <octan> that too
[11:20] <octan> :)
[11:21] <Hentai-sama> how do i manually mount a DVD?
[11:21] <Aapzak> just like a cd
[11:21] <octan> etc mount -t fstype /dev/hdXX /mnt/dvd
[11:21] <strike4ce> !ati
[11:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[11:23] <Hentai-sama> if i type mount i cant see the cd listed
[11:23] <octan> df
[11:24] <Hentai-sama> df?
[11:24] <octan> use df to see if its mounted
[11:24] <octan> not mount
[11:24] <Aapzak> strike4ce: at least your card should be suported by the binary driver
[11:25] <sorush20> I keep trying to install fonts on my computer using the kde right click function but during the installation the dialogue I get the stalled message 
[11:25] <boreal> is there a way to disable clicks on a laptop touchpad... i.e. I don't want to use the touchpad to "click" on items just the buttons
[11:25] <strike4ce> Aapzak: well honestly I dont play many games, I do watch DVD those numbers are good enough for that right?
[11:26] <nalioth> sorush20: put you truetype fonts in ~/.fonts  <<<you may have to maek this folder
[11:26] <Aapzak> strike4ce: dvd playing does not need 3d accelatation
[11:26] <Hentai-sama> octan it is not listed
[11:26] <strike4ce> Aapzak: I know
[11:26] <Knowerrors> redguy: whats the proper way to enter the "timestamp_timeout" flag in sudoers?
[11:26] <Aapzak> strike4ce: but you would need a good 2d performance, I think you should be able to play full screen divx/dvd with that card
[11:27] <Aapzak> 2d performance of that card is not as bad as 3d performance
[11:27] <strike4ce> Aapzak: when i run glxgears I dont get any numbers?
[11:27] <octan> Hentai-sama install it
[11:28] <Hentai-sama> how is this done then?
[11:28] <Aapzak> strike4ce: you prolly should run the fgl version
[11:29] <strike4ce> Aapzak: fglrx?   sorry about being so short with you.  I just figured out how to set the card up lastnight about 3am lol
[11:29] <Aapzak> if you follow the guide, you'll know when you're running with the right drivers
[11:29] <Aapzak> fgl_glxgears I believe
[11:30] <Aapzak> check the part with fglrxinfo from the guide
[11:30] <strike4ce> Aapzak: Yea thats what I used.  i followed the binary howto.
[11:30] <Aapzak> I have older chipset which is not supported by fgl, so I don't run that stuff
[11:31] <Aapzak> does it work?
[11:31] <Aapzak> do you see this: OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.    ?
[11:31] <redguy> Knowerrors: did you read the example sudoers entries in the manpage? If you want to change the default behaviour for all of the users you might want to make an entry like this:
[11:31] <strike4ce> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[11:31] <strike4ce> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[11:31] <strike4ce> OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON 9600 Generic
[11:31] <strike4ce> OpenGL version string: 1.3.5272 (X4.3.0-8.16.20)
[11:31] <lunitik> Is there any way to have KOffice replace OpenOffice.org and not have to remove kubuntu-desktop?
[11:31] <Aapzak> you got the right driver (postig multilines is prohibited BTW)
[11:31] <strike4ce> Aapzak:   my chipset is rv350
[11:32] <strike4ce> Aapzak: sorry
[11:32] <redguy> Knowerrors: Defaults               timestamp_timeout=<int>
[11:32] <lunitik> imo, kubuntu-desktop should depend openoffice.org-kde | koffice  :'(
[11:32] <Knowerrors> visudo didn't like that when I put it on the same line as "!lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn"
[11:33] <Aapzak> strike4ce: I don't really care about the lines, but it's the rules here
[11:33] <Knowerrors> I had to do Defaults:<username> timestamp_timeout=<int>  
[11:34] <blackflag> Hello all :-)
[11:34] <Knowerrors> anybody know what "Defaults  !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn" in the sudoers file?
[11:34] <Knowerrors> refers to?
[11:34] <blackflag> I have a problem with my telephone system
[11:34] <blackflag> it is attached via USB
[11:34] <lunitik> Riddell: Any chance you could change deps in kubuntu-desktop to "openoffice.org2-kde | koffice" for dapper?
[11:34] <blackflag> driver is loaded
[11:34] <jpatrick> lunitik: that would be nice
[11:34] <blackflag> I set up hylafax
[11:34] <lunitik> Riddell: openoffice.org2 is FAR too much of a memory hog...
[11:35] <blackflag> but now I dont know which is the correct interface I have to set
[11:35] <Riddell> lunitik: koffice is too unstable
[11:35] <lunitik> However I like to have kubuntu-desktop around due to knowing I am getting a good desktop
[11:35] <blackflag> is there a command which ask the interfaces and give me a result?
[11:36] <lunitik> Riddell: hence openoffice.org2-kde (which means rest of openoffice.org2) will be installed by default...
[11:36] <blackflag> the modems are not found
[11:36] <jpatrick> lunitik: isn't it?
[11:36] <blackflag> can someone help me?
[11:36] <lunitik> Riddell: users that prefer koffice will still have the choice, while still defaulting to something most will likely prefer
[11:37] <lunitik> Riddell: OpenOffice.org2 is FAR too much of a memory hog to be usable!!
[11:38] <lunitik> Riddell: currently, here, its just taking up space... I NEVER open anything related to OpenOffice.org2 because I know I'll be sitting for 20 secs waiting on it to finally load  :/
[11:38] <jpatrick> lunitik: I dislike the fact that it uses 100 MB
[11:38] <blackflag> by the way its ISDN
[11:39] <lunitik> Riddell: too many new features are drug in via kubuntu-desktop that I enjoy however... so please consider my proposal, thank you.
[11:40] <_justin> greetings.  I'm trying to get DVD playback working on a fresh kubuntu breezy install.  When I put a DVD in, kaffeine starts but gives an error "Error invoking dvdnav_get_next_block".
[11:40] <_justin> The FAQ in the /topic says that libdvdcss should be installed by default, I think, but Adept doesn't list it.  Any suggestions?
[11:40] <lunitik> Riddell: imo, its the Right Thing (tm) to do  :P
[11:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _justin about livdvdcss2
[11:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _justin about libdvdcss2
[11:41] <_justin> ah ha.  So it's the same silliness as vanilla Debian. :-)  why isn't that on the main FAQ along with MP3 support?
[11:42] <lunitik> wiki.ubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats  :/
[11:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lunitik about libdvdcss2
[11:42] <lunitik> nalioth: blah, why'd you do that?
[11:43] <nalioth> education
[11:43] <lunitik> nalioth: Its already installed here... how is it education?
[11:43] <nalioth> lunitik: so you can have ubotu answer questions in the future
[11:45] <strike4ce> Aapzak: what is a good wireless manager?
[11:46] <lunitik> strike4ce: kmenu > Internet > KWifiManager :/
[11:47] <_justin> hm.  OK, I ran the decss installer script, then tried again.  There's no error, but Kaffeine's still not playing the disk.  It says play, but shows a single track of 0 length.
[11:48] <lunitik> _justin: install related encoding things... ie, transcode
[11:48] <_justin> ok... what qualifies as related?
[11:49] <lunitik> apt-get install transcode
[11:49] <strike4ce> lunitik:   Kwifi suxs!
[11:49] <lunitik> It's really a lot faster to apt-get install  :/
[11:50] <lunitik> strike4ce: kinternet? NetworkManager  :/
[11:50] <_justin> I prefer aptitude when I am on the command line.
[11:50] <Riddell> lunitik: we did consider koffice for breezy and had a technical board meeting about it but at the time koffice 1.4 was just too buggy
[11:50] <_justin> hm.  adept isn't showing a transcode package.
[11:51] <crimsun> that's because transcode is in multiverse
[11:51] <_justin> neither is aptitude.
[11:51] <_justin> oh.  not even in universe?
[11:51] <lunitik> Riddell: I'm not asking for it to be default... via deps, openoffice.org2-kde | koffice would install openoffice.org2 by default... but allow for installation of koffice, and removal of openoffice as the user prefers....
[11:51] <crimsun> I'd be careful anyhow; I think it's broken in Breezy
[11:51] <lunitik> Riddell: most users will still stick to OpenOffice... but I dislike that suite a great deal...
[11:52] <Riddell> lunitik: I don't think the seeds allow that currently but there's going to be a discussion on that issue at the conference next week, so you may be in luck
[11:52] <Riddell> lunitik: more and more peole dislike openoffice
[11:53] <_justin> How do I enable multiverse, then?  (Is DVD stuff over there for legal reasons?)
[11:53] <lunitik> Riddell: I was looking forward to openoffice 2.0 due to speed improvement promises, but its just a disappointment
[11:53] <lunitik> Riddell: what do you mean "the seeds won't allow it"... won't allow for alternatives?
[11:54] <Riddell> lunitik: yes, won't allow for alternatives
[11:54] <lunitik> Riddell: actually... I think its prefered to have kubuntu-desktop depend on "office" and make office depend as previously stated...
[11:55] <_justin> crimsun: how do I enable multiverse?
[11:55] <crimsun> _justin: the same way you enable universe
[11:55] <lunitik> Riddell: ala "totem" in ubuntu-desktop....
[11:55] <_justin> It's only listed in adept under breezy-backports.  is that what you're referring to?
[11:55] <lunitik> Riddell: not entirely sure why you are depending "openoffice.org2, openoffice.org2-kde" atm though  :P
[11:58] <_justin> crimsun: hm, no, enabling the breezy-backport lines didn't work, either.
[11:59] <lunitik> _justin: in the line ending "universe" ... throw "multiverse" on the end
[12:02] <_justin> there we go.  *installs transcode and tries again*
[12:02] <lunitik> _justin: dpkg -L transcode | grep bin ... you need to run the binary it installs... cuz for some reason, it doesn't at install time