[12:00] <HappyFool> intelikey: presumably no or limited javascript is part of the price of running a light-weight browser
[12:00] <joh> Guys and Gals, I'm having some trouble getting GL to work on ATI (fglrx). The fgrlx module loads, but `fglrxinfo` shows Mesa as the OpenGL vendor. Also, `glxinfo' shows "direct rendering: No". Any ideas on what could be wrong? Obviously, it's loading mesa's GL libraries instead of ATI's, but as far as I can see, /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 points to the correct library.
[12:01] <darkheart> HappyFool That's kinda lame about apt-get. Can't even find a switch to get it to include dependencies.
[12:01] <erUSUL> intelikey, if you want a standalone js interpreter try rhino
[12:01] <HappyFool> joh: you've updated /etc/X11/xorg.conf to load appropriate X modules ?
[12:01] <darkheart> XIII Try using aptitude then as per HappyFool's suggestion.
[12:02] <HappyFool> darkheart: hence aptitude
[12:02] <joh> HappyFool: yes, it's loading the fglrx module.
[12:02] <HappyFool> XIII: also look at 'deborphan'
[12:02] <j0nas`> joh: i am trying the ati install right now too
[12:02] <joh> HappyFool: It even says (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled
[12:02] <j0nas`> joh: after installing all the .deb packages i cant see the aticonfig program or the fglrxinfo program
[12:03] <HappyFool> joh: hrm. how about uninstalling mesa? or does that break dependencies?
[12:03] <St^Anger^19m> know of any guides to start designing desktop wallpapers?
[12:03] <j0nas`> joh: what have i done wrong?
[12:03] <joh> j0nas`: it's here alright. You need xorg-driver-fglrx too
[12:03] <erUSUL> intelikey, or from mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/js/spidermonkey/
[12:03] <j0nas`> joh: install through synaptic?
[12:03] <darkheart> HappyFool My point is whoever designed apt-get should have thought of simple functionality like that.
[12:03] <Nail_Bunny> im having troubles using wine to install counter strik source, althought the text does not show (it says MS_Sans Serif) but i know the install like the back of my hand, so to speak, but i cannot go any further, i know it works on linux because it is on the list of games, but i need to know, if any one installed it and can help, or if there happesn to be an easier way?
[12:04] <j0nas`> or the generated one?
[12:04] <joh> HappyFool: it sure does. No ubuntu-desktop, x-server or openoffice for me then :\
[12:04] <joh> j0nas`: sure
[12:04] <XIII> HappyFool how can i use aptitude?
[12:04] <j0nas`> joh: i installed the generated one and i dont see those programs
[12:04] <darkheart> St^Anger^19m That's what google is for...You'll find thousands of pages.
[12:04] <joh> j0nas`: did you install xorg-driver-fglrx?
[12:04] <St^Anger^19m> darkheart, i'm  trying :(
[12:04] <HappyFool> XIII: like you would use apt-get. It won't help you in this case if you didn't *install* with aptitude too
[12:04] <j0nas`> joh: yes
[12:04] <darkheart> St^Anger^19m Try googling: gimp tutorial beginner
[12:04] <joh> j0nas`: they should be there then... `fglrxinfo' doesn't work?
[12:04] <j0nas`> no, its not found
[12:05] <joh> HappyFool: any ideas?
[12:05] <XIII> ok, thnx for ur help
[12:05] <darkheart> St^Anger^19m Wow, what do you know. The actual GIMP site has tutorials. =)
[12:05] <joh> j0nas`: ls /usr/bin/fglrxinfo
[12:05] <j0nas`> joh: i just tried the following: udo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_8.18.6-1_i386.deb
[12:05] <j0nas`> sudo*
[12:05] <joh> j0nas`: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:05] <darkheart> HappyFool aptitude maintains it's own DB for un/installs?
[12:05] <HappyFool> joh: sorry, no. i'm not an X guru and i don't have ati anyway
[12:06] <HappyFool> darkheart: i guess has to
[12:06] <St^Anger^19m> darkheart, thanks :D
[12:06] <HappyFool> darkheart: there's a /var/lib/aptitude, maybe it's there
[12:06] <St^Anger^19m> i found some stuff now
[12:06] <darkheart> HappyFool I guess I can see how it has different functionality then. I figured there was a db that libapt kept that all progs (apt-get,aptitude, etc) referred to.
[12:06] <j0nas`> joh: says "xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version."
[12:06] <darkheart> St^Anger^19m np
[12:07] <j0nas`> joh: you dont have to reboot or anything silly like that do you?
[12:07] <joh> j0nas`: nope.
[12:07] <joh> HappyFool: ok, thanks anyways.
[12:07] <joh> j0nas`: sudo apt-get --reinstall install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:07] <joh> j0nas`: you on breezy?
[12:08] <indypende> hi all
[12:08] <j0nas`> joh: breezy yes
[12:08] <max> So. MP3s now working!
[12:09] <indypende> the "how to configure sound to work properly in gnome" section of the unoffcial starter guide it's needed in breezy?
[12:09] <Nail_Bunny> anyone know how to download MS Sans_Serif_80 font and install it?
[12:09] <j0nas`> joh: it says "Reinstallation of xorg-driver-fglrx is not possible, it cannot be downloaded."
[12:09] <HappyFool> indypende: check out the 'official' starter guide
[12:09] <HappyFool> !faq
[12:09] <ubotu> The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation, or http://help.ubuntu.com
[12:10] <maxkelley> Hey, I'm trying to install fluxbox on ubuntu breezy, and it claims I don't have X....
[12:10] <joh> j0nas`: well, there you go :P do you have the restricted repositories enabled?
[12:10] <bullraiser> hi gentle peoples, i'm trying to change the resolution of my Gnome to more than 1024x768. But, theres no option that allows me to configure this, though in my windows dual boot, i can maximise to more resolution. Does anyone know how to change and increase the screen resolution pls?
[12:10] <erUSUL> Nail_Bunny, msttcorefonts
[12:10] <indypende> HappyFool, ok but the section "how to [...]  sound in gnome" there is not! i don't need to modify nothing?
[12:10] <maxkelley> well, no, lemme explain better
[12:10] <j0nas`> joh: yes all but backports
[12:10] <maxkelley> I'm trying to install fluxbox, which requires imlib2
[12:10] <maxkelley> imlib2 says I don't have X :P
[12:11] <maxkelley> can someone help?
[12:11] <Distro^Junkie> hmmm how come my multimedia keyboard works in gnome but not in kde ?
[12:11] <jareth_> mawe: ur there?
[12:11] <Distro^Junkie> could turn volume up and down
[12:11] <mawe> yes
[12:11] <puff> If I apt-get remove mozilla-firefox, and then apt-get instll mozilla-firefox, will my bookmarks still be there?
[12:11] <HappyFool> indypende: if your sound is working, i would guess no
[12:11] <mawe> jareth_: did it work?
[12:11] <Nail_Bunny> erUSUL it says its already the newest one, but the program still says SAN_Serif80
[12:11] <jareth_> don't know
[12:12] <bullraiser> hi gentle peoples, i'm trying to change the resolution of my Gnome to more than 1024x768. But, theres no option that allows me to configure this, though in my windows dual boot, i can maximise to more resolution. Does anyone know how to change and increase the screen resolution pls >> Can anyone help me regarding this?
[12:12] <holycow> puff, yes, to be sure backup your .mozilla directory in your home folder
[12:12] <puff> bullraiser: In the GUI, System/Preferences/Screen Resolution, will pop up a dialog to change that.  I'd be interested in learning how to do it from the shell, myself.
[12:12] <puff> holycow:  Thank you.
[12:13] <erUSUL> Nail_Bunny, what program? if you can get the *ttf for the font you can just copy it to ~/.fonts
[12:13] <puff> Hm, aptitude doesn't seem to have an equivalent to --reinstall.
[12:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bullraiser about fixres
[12:13] <maxkelley> meh
[12:13] <jareth_> mawe: msg me plz
[12:14] <bullraiser> nalioth: Thanks will look into that. If I couldnt change, will come back again.
[12:14] <puff> Oh, it's aptitude reinstall
[12:14] <Nail_Bunny> erUSUL well im trying to install Counter Strike Source, and instead of the norm text it just says SAN_Serif80
[12:14] <bullraiser> puff: I can see the option from the System/Preferences/Screen Resolution, but it doesnt allow me to change more than 1024x768
[12:14] <nalioth> bullraiser: follow the guide the bot sent you
[12:15] <nalioth> bullraiser: if it doesn work, we have other ways
[12:15] <N6REJ> I'm having a problem configuring postfix guys n gals.... I'm trying to follow the directions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostFix?highlight=%28postfix%29 and I'm on step two and it says ... mkdir: invalid option -- r
[12:15] <N6REJ> when I type the command in step 2 ... mkdir -p /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd rm -fr /var/run/saslauthd }}}
[12:15] <N6REJ> What am I doing wrong?
[12:15] <erUSUL> Nail_Bunny, i think i can not help you. Maybe asking in a cs chanel or forum?
[12:15] <bullraiser> nalioth: Thanks mate. Will get back, if i struggle
[12:15] <darkheart> N6REJ That's 2 separate commands
[12:15] <sven-tex> anyone seen wine 0.9 packages for ubuntu?
[12:16] <N6REJ> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.... ok.
[12:16] <N6REJ> ty
[12:16] <puff> bullraiser: Odd.. normally that would lead me to conclude that 1024x768 is the max your card will support.
[12:16] <N6REJ> I'm gonna see if I can fix that wiki!
[12:16] <darkheart> N6REJ Should be a ; between them. Did you run them on separate lines? If so, that's fine.
[12:16] <N6REJ> no I ran them all at once
[12:16] <bullraiser> puff: But, as said i can maximise to more higher resolution when i reboot to Win XP.
[12:17] <puff> nalioth: How do you adjust resolution from the shell?
[12:17] <bullraiser> so, i can be sure that my video driver/card supports higher resolution
[12:17] <puff> bullraiser: eah, I siad "normally"
[12:17] <N6REJ> ok, that did it.. now I'll try to fix the wiki... ty for the information to fix it.
[12:17] <nalioth> puff: i fine "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" works well for me
[12:17] <darkheart> N6REJ Np.
[12:18] <mrmarcel> hi
[12:18] <N6REJ> hey, its correct in the wiki editor... wth?
[12:18] <bluefoxicy> fuck
[12:18] <bluefoxicy> ctrl+alt+f1 freezes X interminably
[12:18] <intelikey> N6REJ "mkdir -p /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd ;rm -fr /var/run/saslauthd"  the semicolen seperates the two commands like hitting the return key between them.
[12:19] <N6REJ> what do the 3 } do?
[12:19] <darkheart> N6REJ Cause problems, most likely.
[12:19] <bullraiser> apt-get install 855resolution
[12:19] <bullraiser> Reading package lists... Done
[12:19] <bullraiser> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:19] <bullraiser> E: Couldn't find package 855resolution
[12:20] <linlin> configure: error: error, Please install OpenSSL first!
[12:20] <cimo> come faccio a far funzionare alice gate su ubuntu ???
[12:20] <cimo> come faccio a far funzionare alice gate su ubuntu ???
[12:20] <bullraiser> what does this mean??
[12:20] <darkheart> !it
[12:20] <intelikey> unless they are part of the inode name, i have no idea why they are there.
[12:20] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[12:20] <linlin> i did sudo apt-get install openssl and it installed, still wont ./configure
[12:20] <N6REJ> lol.. I know zip about postfix
[12:20] <puff> Odd, okay, aptitude reinstall mozilla-firefox didn't fix the issue.
[12:21] <UnL0cK> my sudo make doesnt works :S
[12:21] <puff> So maybe i need to go all the way and aptitude remove, then aptitude install.
[12:21] <maxkelley> UnL0cK, don't worry, mine doesn't either :)
[12:21] <erUSUL> bullraiser, Couldn't find package 855resolution . It could not find the package ;). Check the name of the package and the repositories you are using
[12:21] <maxkelley> UnL0cK, welcome to the club :)] 
[12:21] <puff> Question;  if I do this, will I have to jump through all of the hoops to get the drivers, etc, again?
[12:21] <nalioth> !ita
[12:21] <ubotu> ita is, like, totally, italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[12:21] <UnL0cK> lol maxkelle1
[12:22] <UnL0cK> but i need it to install wifi drivers :(
[12:22] <nalioth> bullraiser: please dont paste in here
[12:22] <maxkelley> what wifi card?
[12:22] <ompaul> bullraiser, it means you pasted in the channel, use paste.ubuntulinux.nl and the error means you do not have universe enabled
[12:22] <ompaul> !tell bullraiser about repos
[12:22] <maxkelley> UnL0cK, what wifi card?
[12:23] <bullraiser> nalioth: ok, would take care in future
[12:23] <bullraiser> ompaul: thanks, would have a look into that
[12:23] <boci^> :(
[12:23] <boci^> I can't boot in my Mac
[12:23] <ompaul> bullraiser, the bot ubotu has told you how do look after that
[12:23] <nalioth> bullraiser: while you're there, enable multiverse, also
[12:23] <joh> Anyone gotten GL to work *at all* with the included fglrx-drivers (xorg-driver-fglrx)?
[12:23] <boci^> I can't boot from CD-rom because it's a new world computer...
[12:23] <nalioth> boci^: whats the trouble?
[12:23] <boci^> any idea?
[12:24] <trappist> joh: yes, just today
[12:24] <Suepahfly> did anyone had success compileing kvirc under 5.10?
[12:24] <boci^> I have G3 (blue), but I can't boot...
[12:24] <trappist> ubotu: tell joh about ati
[12:24] <nalioth> boci^: start the mac, and hold the "c" key right after it chimes
[12:24] <nalioth> boci^: hold it til the cd boots
[12:24] <test34> if I right click on a .iso file in the filebrowse and choose write to disk, will it burn it as one file or as an ISO ?
[12:24] <bullraiser> nalioth: multiverse....ummm...new term, have to search the docs.
[12:24] <erUSUL> Suepahfly, why compile it, is not in the repositories?
[12:24] <boci^> nalioth: not work... I tried...  but it's show a blinking "mac face" / "?"
[12:24] <nalioth> bullraiser: it's in the repos msg ubotu sent you
[12:25] <bullraiser> ok
[12:25] <Suepahfly> erUSUL, only a way old version
[12:25] <nalioth> boci^: then hold the alt-option key after the chime
[12:25] <boci^> but it's do same in Orig. macOS cd...
[12:25] <boci^> nalioth: only alt-option?
[12:25] <nalioth> boci^: only alt-option, yes
[12:25] <boci^> ok
[12:25] <Suepahfly> erUSUL, kvirc is up to3.2 now the repo hold 2.x
[12:27] <_native_> im proud to report demarctech 100mw prism2.5 works out the box. except the driver was compiled with wireless extensions 17 and recommends 18 so some features are broken
[12:27] <malluguy> Hi guys
[12:27] <dabaR> Hi guy
[12:27] <mrmarcel> hi
[12:28] <malluguy> Hi daba, is this the channel for breezy badger support
[12:28] <odat> i am having problems with automount can anyone help
[12:28] <odat> ?
[12:28] <dabaR> malluguy: the Ubuntu support channel. /topic
[12:28] <dabaR> odat: depending on how good information you provide. I do not feel like probing too much, I can try helping you.
[12:29] <puff> Dang... okayt, so "aptitude remove mozilla-firefox;  aptitude install mozilla-firefox" failed to fix this problem.
[12:29] <odat> dabaR, I can not seem to acces my floppy drive or my card readers
[12:29] <dabaR> puff: whats the problem?
[12:29] <bulio> hi
[12:29] <infinito> does anyone know why after upgrading to breezy with an ati card X doesnt work no more????
[12:29] <bulio> I have an ibm thinkpad
[12:29] <bulio> ethernet to modem
[12:29] <boci^> nalioth: same result
[12:29] <bulio> how do I setup pppoe?
[12:29] <boci^> I have a new HDD
[12:30] <dabaR> sudo pppoeconf
[12:30] <malluguy> can anyone help me with grub issues i am having
[12:30] <bulio> IBM thinkpad R30
[12:30] <bulio> should work?
[12:30] <boci^> and I want to install Ubuntu but I can't boot from cd
[12:30] <bulio> in ubuntu
[12:30] <puff>  dabaR: firefox doesn't start, just silently fails to start, unless I add -verbose, or -profilemanager, or -safe-mode
[12:30] <odat> dabaR, any suggestions?
[12:30] <dabaR> bulio: run "sudo pppoeconf" in a terminal.
[12:30] <nalioth> boci^: sounds like you have hardware problems. is your cd drive functional?
[12:30] <dabaR> odat: yes, run gnome-volume-manager in a terminal
[12:31] <boci^> nalioth: yes
[12:31] <boci^> nalioth: It's try to load it's blinking , but no effect
[12:31] <dabaR> puff: well, for some relevant info run sudo aptitude search firefox, and tell me what you have learned.
[12:31] <puff> dabaR: I was installing several extensions.  Had installed them, had not yet restarted.  Ubuntu crashed.
[12:31] <odat> dabaR, this is what i get ** (gnome-volume-manager:7820): WARNING **: manager.c/2199: already running?
[12:31] <boci^> nalioth: in OF I try to boot it's say: boot init label package falied
[12:32] <Stranger> Virtuall a    ?
[12:32] <Stranger>  ?
[12:32] <Stranger> :>
[12:32] <dabaR> odat: good, so you say a card reader hey? does it usually mount nicely?
[12:32] <puff> dabaR: A zillion mozilla-firefox packages, mostly locales.
[12:32] <nalioth> boci^: try burning your cd again
[12:32] <dabaR> puff: read the descriptions of the firefox, and of the mozilla-firefox packages
[12:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell boci^ about verify
[12:32] <intelikey> well it looks like ubuntu is too bloated to run a gui on this small of a box.   i'm going to try to trim ship, and will probably break the system in the process.  but this install of ubuntu lasted a littlo over 25 hours.   that's a record....  :)
[12:32] <odat> dabaR,  it my floppy too when i insert a floppy nothing happens and i can access any other way either
[12:32] <boci^> nalioth: okbut the MacOS cd same not booting...
[12:33] <puff> dabaR:  "lightweight web browser based on mozilla"
[12:33] <dabaR> odat: did it ever mount either?
[12:33] <dabaR> puff I can do it myself, you read it.
[12:33] <odat> dabaR, no
[12:33] <puff> There is no "firefox" package, just a "mozilla-firefox" package.
[12:33] <holycow> puff, thats what it is actually called yes
[12:33] <boci^> nalioth: ok I try...
[12:33] <puff> dabaR: I get the point that you're trying some sort of socratic method here, but maybe you could just point what detail it is I've overlooked"?
[12:33] <dabaR> puff: what version of ubuntu then? hoary?
[12:33] <budluva> how do i install an x11 cursor theme from gnome-look? i tried dragging the index.theme into the cursor theme window but that didnt work, and i cant see install theme anywhere, any clues?
[12:34] <puff> Yup.
[12:34] <puff> dabaR: Hoary.
[12:34] <dabaR> puff: nice.
[12:34] <dabaR> the socratic method comment
[12:34] <dabaR> and it worked, then you did the above, and it no longer works?
[12:34] <puff> dabaR: I don't mean to be offensive, but I *have* been trying to solve this for an hour or two now.
[12:35] <_native_> im having trouble getting a toshset script running at boot. when i place the script in /etc/init.d and link it to rcS.d it dose not start at boot.
[12:35] <dabaR> not at all offensive, I like the comment
[12:35] <puff> Yes, it worked, then I did the above, and it now no longer works.
[12:35] <puff> I've been keeping a journal about this, I can paste it to pastebin if you want ot review what I've tried.
[12:35] <dabaR> odat: well, if it never mounted, what makes you think it works, have you read the wiki or the forums?
[12:35] <dabaR> puff: that is a good idea, always post that
[12:36] <odat> dabaR, lol k
[12:36] <odat> dabaR, thanx i guess
[12:36] <holycow> puff, what is the issue, ff fails too start? you have too many extensions right?
[12:36] <dabaR> odat: search the forums, and the wiki first, there is a hw support section
[12:37] <holycow> if so, move your .mozilla dir from your home directory and restart firefox
[12:37] <puff> http://pastebin.com/409457
[12:37] <dabaR> why do you use firefox in linux? cauuse of the extensions?
[12:37] <puff> dabaR: Firefox as opposed to?
[12:37] <dabaR> maud_dib is here...
[12:37] <puff> holycow: I have no extensi0ons at all.
[12:37] <dabaR> well, I use epiphany,...
[12:38] <reiki> I use firefoxcause I was used to it. What else should I use instead? :)
[12:38] <holycow> puff, still mover your .mozilla folder and restart
[12:38] <dabaR> but its based on the same engine, just gtk all the way, and that, the debian sensible browser.
[12:38] <holycow> if that doesn't work, remove the .mozilla folder apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox and then reinstall it.  and it will work
[12:38] <holycow> oh one more thing to watch out for
[12:39] <holycow> /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox folder
[12:39] <puff> holycow: Same behavior...
[12:39] <holycow> sometimes extensions place them selves in there
[12:39] <puff> dabaR: epiphany?
[12:39] <holycow> delete any plugins/extensions that are in there
[12:39] <reiki> is there an "official" Ubuntu browser? I had kinda assumed that's why is came with firefox.... or did I add firefox... darn now I can't remember
[12:39] <Ng> reiki: it comes with firefox
[12:40] <dabaR> fx is there, by default. epiphany-browser is small, quick to install,
[12:40] <reiki> Ng: thanks... getting old is terrible :)
[12:40] <holycow> reiki, no there are official desktop browsers.  for kde its konqueror, for gnome its now just down to epiphany
[12:40] <Xeromem> can anyone help me please
[12:40] <dabaR> and openbox, but I use ubuntu diff than the default:-/
[12:40] <Xeromem> im new at linux
[12:40] <dabaR> what do yiou need help with? ask.
[12:40] <Xeromem> ok, i have 2 pc's
[12:40] <Xeromem> first one is this (ubuntu)
[12:40] <dabaR> i have 2 too cool
[12:41] <dabaR> mine too
[12:41] <Xeromem> it has 2 ethernet cards
[12:41] <reiki> hmmm... ok I'm open to new things... maybe I'll just go install epiphany and take a look-see
[12:41] <needhelp> good evening all
[12:41] <Xeromem> 1 gets internet connection
[12:41] <dabaR> its sensible, you get used to it.
[12:41] <dabaR> the ubuntu, right?
[12:41] <Xeromem> and other connects to my other pc (which is with windows xp)
[12:41] <Xeromem> now the problem is, i cant acces the internet with windows-pc
[12:41] <WebLOCH> get guys
[12:41] <holycow> puff, sorry gave you the wrong path, its also /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[12:42] <dabaR> so, you want it to give it an IP address, and dns, and ip forwarding, right?
[12:42] <jvai> ubuntu rocks.. & i'm on hoary... wait till i get to breezy
[12:42] <holycow> delete everything from that extensions folder there
[12:42] <dabaR> jvai: dont even upgrade, breezy is buggy
[12:42] <Xeromem> not exactly
[12:42] <dabaR> or whatever, epiphany and openbox aren't
[12:42] <needhelp> i am new to linux...and i wanted to learn it , so a friend recommended and installed ubuntu on my laptop..i did a mistake and removed lilo...now i cant boot into linux..i have winxp installed in hdc1,ubuntu on hdc2..anyone like to help plz..i have knoppix live cd.
[12:42] <Xeromem> i just want to share my connection, same ip is no problem
[12:42] <WebLOCH> I need some help with environment variables if anyone has a minute ?
[12:43] <puff> holycow, dabaR, thanks, I'll try those steps next, but I think right noiw I'm going to go get something to eat, come back to this in an hour with fresh focus.
[12:43] <puff> I'm also going to try to find time to try upgraidng this weekend.
[12:43] <puff> To breezy.
[12:43] <holycow> puff, no problem, with linux it seems impossible at first ...
[12:44] <K-Mode> Xeromen - best Thing To Do Is Buy A Cheap Router
[12:44] <holycow> ... but what happens is when you learn where everything is it's a snap to solve stuff in the future
[12:44] <puff> The main problem being that I'm parnid and I want to backup, first.
[12:44] <puff> Iwish I'd bought an IBM full dock for this thinkpad, instead of a minidock.
[12:44] <dabaR> Xeromem: no, you want a dnsmask, and ipmask package on the ubuntu running,
[12:44] <WebLOCH> I have tried to add a variable to my set of environment variables by editing /etc/profile because i wanted to set it system-wide, once i log in however the variable no longer exists, but if i hit "ctrl alt f1" and check from the terminal it does exist, I have tried rebooting... can anyone help?
[12:44] <holycow> puff, indeed, always step #1, lots of times we give advice and people end up hosing their data because they aren't paranoid enough
[12:44] <puff> Didn't occur to me before, but I could put a large HD in the dock (it has a spare bay) and use that ot make daily backups of the laptop drive.
[12:44] <dabaR> is this in bash?
[12:44] <Xeromem> they said i could share my connection using a firewall called firestarter
[12:44] <WebLOCH> dabaR, it is
[12:44] <Xeromem> but it seems like it doesn't work
[12:45] <dabaR> so... /etc/bash.bashrc.
[12:45] <lucis> Hi, I'm trying to install RealPlayer on ubuntu. I tried the installer listed in some repositories but apparently it doesn't work anymore.
[12:45] <puff> holycow: I think iut's generally true that people forget much of the learning pains, things they've learned, gotchas they've gotten used to avoiding.  That's why I'm trying to keep a journal of my ubuntu experience, hopefully it'll help somebody else get started.
[12:45] <holycow> puff, lots of ways to backup.  mostly you just need to copy your home dir to the other hd and your done
[12:45] <puff> Yaeah... I just thought, it'd be a really nice & easy wy.
[12:45] <holycow> puff, excellent idea, windows people forget they have 15 years of training
[12:45] <puff> I have a LaCie 250GB USB drive, which will be slow, but.
[12:45] <jvai> <---*stickin w/ hoary*
[12:46] <holycow> puff, backing up linux is super easy, i truly love it
[12:46] <needhelp> i am new to linux...and i wanted to learn it , so a friend recommended and installed ubuntu on my laptop..i did a mistake and removed lilo...now i cant boot into linux..i have winxp installed in hdc1,ubuntu on hdc2..anyone like to help plz..i have knoppix live cd.
[12:46] <lucis> Hoary is so whorey.
[12:46] <holycow> needhelp, he installed lilo as  your bootloader? yuck
[12:46] <puff> holycow: Yeah, I used to work in a computing lab, back in college, the university made thelabs generally available to everybody the srecond year I worked there.  Interesting learning experience for me.  "This is a mouse.  This is a pointer.  This is dragging.  This is clicking.  This is double-clicking."
[12:47] <intelikey> needhelp probably hda1 & hda2  rather than hdc  but it can be hdc.   the convention is first ide bus master = hda  slave = hdb   second ide bus master = hdc  slave = hdd   and so on.   floppies are fd0 fd1 fd2   so you can mount your partition that contains linux and cd into it then run a chrooted lilo command.  to reinstall lilo.
[12:47] <needhelp> holycow obviously its yucky
[12:47] <holycow> needhelp, just hang around someone will turn up that can run you through it, i haveto run soon
[12:47] <puff> holycow: Ah?  What's the preferred backup method?
[12:47] <needhelp> hmm
[12:47] <needhelp> intelikey no its hdc1 and hdc2..and that im 1000% sure :)
[12:47] <lucis> So no one can help me install realplayer?
[12:48] <dabaR> you asked a minute ago...
[12:48] <holycow> puff, depends on the circumstances and needs frankly.  for home systems a simple copy of the home dir is really that is necessary imho because you can always fresh install something
[12:48] <erUSUL> needhelp, boot whith knoppix an chroot to the ubuntu then run grub-install
[12:48] <puff> lucis: I had that problem too, the ubuntu realplayer installer package I tried wanted to use an earlier version  of the RealPlayer installer from RealPlayer, I couldn't find it, so I just gave up for now.
[12:48] <erUSUL> and*
[12:48] <lucis> Puff, yeah, thats what I got.
[12:48] <intelikey> see post above ^   "could be."  only you can tell for sure.
[12:48] <puff> holycow: True... but I use this laptop for work, too, so I'd like to have some sort of "bare metal backup" option.
[12:48] <holycow> puff, or you can put home dir in another partition as well to keep things a little safer
[12:48] <needhelp> intelikey yes mate thx
[12:48] <puff> holycow: If I end up reinstalling, I'd like to do that.
[12:48] <Xeromem> so is there no way to share my internet connection??? :
[12:48] <Xeromem> :(
[12:48] <needhelp> erUSUL hold on plz
[12:48] <puff> Put /home in a separate parittion, tha tis.
[12:49] <dabaR> and what servers?
[12:49] <needhelp> i am running knoppix live cd as we speak
[12:49] <WebLOCH> dabaR, thats not very specific, what exactly are you suggesting?
[12:49] <darkheart> puff There are a lot of bare metal backup type deals. Google for them, should turn up a number of results.
[12:49] <jvai> is there such a thing as *vlc plug-ins for totem* just for the stregnth of the wmp compatability?
[12:49] <dabaR> WebLOCH: what did you try?
[12:49] <needhelp> and im entering root shell
[12:49] <WebLOCH> dabaR, editing profile
[12:50] <holycow> puff, well that still depends.  there is a linux ghost app that you can use, you can still just backup home and reinstall from cd which, or you can dd your entire partition space to an image, and dd it back to hd if something goes wrong
[12:50] <dabaR> nono, change that file I told you, add the variable there.
[12:50] <needhelp> erUSUL i did apt-get install grub
[12:50] <holycow> puff, there are also tons and tons of backup options such as bacula for professional remote backups
[12:50] <needhelp> and its installed
[12:50] <needhelp> now what?
[12:50] <holycow> puff, you will need to research the options to pick the one that suits your needs
[12:50] <jvai> i want to make totem act on par to what winmp does for windows
[12:50] <WebLOCH> dabaR, just slap it in anywhere?  Do i need to include the "export" line still ?
[12:50] <puff> holycow: Okay, thanks for the advice.
[12:50] <dabaR> WebLOCH: whatever
[12:50] <erUSUL> needhelp, you are now on ubuntu?
[12:50] <St^Anger^19m> how do i get the "Layers, Channels, Paths" dialogue in GIMP?
[12:51] <dabaR> try already
[12:51] <indypende> anyone using glabels to print cd/dvd cover? i can't do it...
[12:51] <puff> holycow: I'dlike to read up on the dd option, seems like it'd be a good thing to know for use in a pinch.
[12:51] <puff> G'night all.
[12:51] <erUSUL> needhelp, or in the knoppix livecd
[12:51] <holycow> St^Anger^19m, CTRL/L
[12:51] <erUSUL> ?
[12:51] <WebLOCH> dabaR, i find it strange that you directed me to be more specific when i was just being polite and now you are being particularly unspecific
[12:51] <holycow> puff, very usefull indeed
[12:51] <needhelp> knoppix
[12:51] <stock> in the ubuntu apt repositories, are there no packages for the -mm patchset to the kernel?
[12:51] <St^Anger^19m> holycow, 10q
[12:52] <holycow> WebLOCH, rofl :) welcome to linux
[12:52] <holycow> hehehe
[12:52] <holycow> St^Anger^19m, no worries
[12:52] <erUSUL> needhelp, where is ubuntu installed in the hd?
[12:52] <WebLOCH> holycow, tell me about it
[12:52] <needhelp> but i went into the ubunti partition and ran apt-get install grub
[12:52] <needhelp> hdc2
[12:52] <holycow> erUSUL, well on the hd, what do you mean exactly where?
[12:52] <zer0bytecode> #ubuntu
[12:52] <erUSUL> needhelp, you need to mount the root partition of ubuntu
[12:52] <needhelp> holycow he means which partition
[12:52] <holycow> oh :)
[12:52] <erUSUL> needhelp, hda1 or hda3...
[12:52] <holycow> yeah what needhelp said :)
[12:53] <needhelp> erUSUL ok how do i mount it?
[12:53] <odat> can't mount floppy drive can anyone help?
[12:53] <UnL0cK> omg
[12:53] <jvai> i show off the *mutiple workspaces* to windows users when @ work... so fukkin kewl. i got as many as six peeps using my shyt @ a tyme
[12:53] <holycow> erUSUL, aslo if you want to find out manually in terminal do sudo fdisk -l
[12:53] <UnL0cK> this can't be possible
[12:53] <UnL0cK> http://pastebin.com/409471
[12:53] <holycow> erUSUL, that should tell you a lot about the partition space on the hd
[12:53] <UnL0cK> i cant be so unlucky
[12:53] <UnL0cK> i updated gcc and everything
[12:53] <UnL0cK> it just wont work
[12:54] <jvai> i found that u can create as many as 36!! workspaces?? why?
[12:54] <zer0bytecode> hey I am new and I am trying to make a new user account, I went to admin users and groups and tryied to make one but when i try to login it says chase must be same you know . Can any one help
[12:54] <erUSUL> needhelp, surely knoppix have put icons in the desktop to mount it
[12:54] <darkheart> jvai Because 36 is better than 1.
[12:54] <holycow> jvai, because not everyone needs just 1 like on windows, or default 4 like on kde/gnome.
[12:54] <needhelp> erUSUL this is what i have in the command window  root@0[hdc2] :
[12:54] <puff> darkheart: Oh, thank you for the advice, too (re: bare metal backup).
[12:55] <needhelp> ubuntu is in hdc2
[12:55] <jvai> lol!! i hear u dark
[12:55] <boci^> nalioth: not work :(
[12:55] <tarek_> where can i get the msttcorefonts package ?
[12:55] <UnL0cK> zer0bytecode,  use the password for your current user
[12:55] <darkheart> puff Np. Linux is easy to back up, especially if you are just an end-user, but there are many tools already made to restore bare metal boxes.
[12:55] <erUSUL> needhelp,  can you see the files of the ubuntu instalation?
[12:55] <jvai> multiple workspaces rok!
[12:55] <boci^> nalioth: but I not see in the disk0 in the ata-3
[12:55] <needhelp> yes
[12:55] <holycow> darkheart, i haveto say that is actually one of my favourite things about linux
[12:55] <needhelp> i can when i use kde
[12:55] <zer0bytecode> so i make and account but give the new account the same pass
[12:55] <needhelp> or konquerer
[12:56] <darkheart> puff All I do is keep my /home on a separate partition and don't format it during the install...if I want system settings, tar up /etc and then untar it in the new install
[12:56] <needhelp> i can see etc for example and boot
[12:56] <erUSUL> needhelp, run pwd
[12:56] <darkheart> holycow Definitely. I'm never worried about screwing up my system.
[12:56] <needhelp>  i got /mnt/hdc2
[12:56] <puff> 'night all.
[12:57] <jvai> i need to find an orinoco wifi card supplier, i luk'd up on 1... & i dot want ANYTHING happening to this 1
[12:57] <erUSUL> needhelp, right now run chroot /mnt/hdc2
[12:57] <holycow> darkheart, that is exactly the weirdness i've become accustomed to as well.  i cannot go back to win simply for those reasons
[12:57] <kanako> installing ubuntu.. what should my mount point be for the ubuntu partition? /? i just want one linux partition (not counting swap)
[12:58] <intelikey> erUSUL "lilo -r /mnt/hdc2 "   duh.
[12:58] <tarek_> where can i get the msttcorefonts package ?
[12:58] <needhelp> bash: /dev/null :permission denied
[12:58] <zer0bytecode> hey I am trying to make a new account can someone help
[12:58] <crimsun> tarek_: in multiverse
[12:58] <darkheart> holycow hehe, yeah. Only thing I miss windows for is playing games. However, I do have a folder that moves around and has gone through about 10 different boxes, Linux/windows/BSD
[12:58] <stock> zer0bytecode, try 'adduser'
[12:58] <erUSUL> intelikey, if needhelp has an ubuntu instalation it is usin grub not lilo
[12:59] <tarek_> ok than crimsum
[12:59] <darkheart> holycow It helps when you have a Linux server that you can store data you don't want to lose before a format ;)
[12:59] <jvai> my thinkpad 600x, w/ 589mgz of ram... feels as powerful as an win xp box w/ a pentium4, w/ 1gig of ram
[12:59] <intelikey> erUSUL that's interesting  he said lilo.
[12:59] <Merturk_NB> greetings
[12:59] <zer0bytecode> stock where do i type adduser
[12:59] <bullraiser> hi, i tried manually changing xorg.conf to improve my screen resolution and also followed the doc, but after changing and rebooting too, the changes are not taking in effect. Any ideas?
[12:59] <needhelp> yes it was lilo but i dont mind installing grub
[12:59] <dabaR> bullraiser: had you ran reconfigure?
[12:59] <needhelp> anything that works tbh
[12:59] <bullraiser> not yet.
[12:59] <stock> zer0bytecode, at the command prompt, as root
[01:00] <bullraiser> whats the command?
[01:00] <stock> sudo adduser, i guess
[01:00] <erUSUL> needhelp, why were you using lilo instead of grub?
[01:00] <erUSUL> needhelp, either way once you are chrooted just run lilo or grub-install to fix the thing
[01:01] <needhelp> it wasnt me who installed ubuntu...ubuntu was installed by a friend..costume kernel since i couldnt install it by cd or hdd,the installation was done using knoppix and ssh
[01:01] <intelikey> needhelp lilo -r /mnt/hdc2       should reinstall lilo   but you may want to "cat /mnt/hdc2/etc/lilo.conf " first and confirm all the information is correct.
[01:01] <needhelp> ok intelikey
[01:01] <p4yn3> hey all
[01:01] <needhelp> i tired many things with lilo nothing worled
[01:01] <needhelp> tried
[01:02] <Merturk_NB> I have just installed Ubuntu onto a Compaq Prosignia 120, and I'm really impressed. It works well, boots fine, and almost everything has been auto detected. I've run into a sound card problem. this is a laptop, btw. My sound chipset is ESS 1869. any experience or help with this problem?
[01:02] <needhelp> why cant i execute the chroot command?
[01:03] <bullraiser> does running reconfigure would change my existing desktop preferences?
[01:03] <intelikey> needhelp are you root ?
[01:03] <WebLOCH> !tell me about codecs
[01:04] <thirso> WebLOCH: http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[01:04] <needhelp> intelikey
[01:04] <xet7> how do I convert cd to iso image in ubuntu?
[01:04] <needhelp> no idea
[01:04] <needhelp> i opened the root shell in knoppix cd
[01:05] <grumbel> needhelp: chroot only works if you are root in linux, also when you enter the chroot environment, everything else 'dissapears', so you have to prepare the chroot environment to be any usable at all
[01:05] <p4yn3> what is LVM in the install procedure?
[01:05] <WebLOCH> thirso thanks but i was looking forsomethings pecific
[01:05] <WebLOCH> Does anyone have any suggestions about what Quick Time plugin to use for Opera or Epiphany ?
[01:05] <needhelp> thx grumbel
[01:05] <kanako> p4yn3, logical volume manager? way of having > 4 partitions on a system that also runs windows i believe
[01:05] <needhelp> i hope i can boot today                   i have been reading and reading for 3 days with no results
[01:05] <grumbel> xet7: 'cdrdao read' or  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/isoimage.iso
[01:06] <grumbel> xet7: could also use k3b or another graphical wrapper tool
[01:06] <needhelp> if im in ubuntu root..how do i know?
[01:06] <needhelp> i mean isnt there any command
[01:06] <p4yn3> kanako, when i am prompted with the partition choices, should I pick erase entire disk, or erase entire disk and use lvm? I will only be using ubuntu
[01:06] <grumbel> needhelp: ubuntu has as default no root user or at least no password
[01:06] <needhelp> coz im in root@knoppix
[01:07] <Merturk_NB> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17221 << My problem is duplicated here on the forums
[01:07] <Merturk_NB> I have just installed Ubuntu onto a Compaq Prosignia 120, and I'm really impressed. It works well, boots fine, and almost everything has been auto detected. I've run into a sound card problem. this is a laptop, btw. My sound chipset is ESS 1869. any experience or help with this problem?
[01:07] <grumbel> needhelp: to execute commands as root  you use 'sudo'
[01:07] <_native_> needhelp, who
[01:07] <TG__> could anyone tell me if there's any shell command to play a sound without showing a gui?
[01:07] <grumbel> TG__: play
[01:07] <_native_> needhelp, whoami
[01:07] <TG__> grumbel: thx
[01:07] <_native_> needhelp, last
[01:07] <grumbel> TG__: part of 'sox' package
[01:07] <green-mouse> TG__, play, aplay
[01:07] <grumbel> needhelp: whoami
[01:08] <landstalker> anyone aware of fat32 support being missing out of breezy?
[01:08] <_native_> needhelp, those commands will tell you who you are who's logged in etc...
[01:08] <needhelp> _native_ ok but u see im running knoppix to fix the problem
[01:08] <kanako> p4yn3, if you just want the whole disk as one partition pick "erase entire disk"
[01:08] <thirso> Merturk_NB: whats the problem?
[01:08] <needhelp> so  i dont know if im root in knoppix or ubuntu?
[01:08] <Merturk_NB> thirso, sound not working
[01:08] <_native_> so whats your problem/question again
[01:08] <Merturk_NB> I have just installed Ubuntu onto a Compaq Prosignia 120, and I'm really impressed. It works well, boots fine, and almost everything has been auto detected. I've run into a sound card problem. this is a laptop, btw. My sound chipset is ESS 1869. any experience or help with this problem?
[01:08] <needhelp> i removed lilo and i cant boot ubuntu
[01:08] <thirso> Merturk_NB: type lsmod | grep snd
[01:09] <needhelp> so i use knoppix
[01:09] <needhelp> live cd
[01:09] <_native_> if you want to know "who" you are type who, or whoami, or last
[01:09] <Mabus06> Is anyone here  guru enough to help me get my GeForce FX 5500 working with ubuntu?
[01:09] <_native_> needhelp, and
[01:09] <thirso> Mabus06: whats wrong?
[01:09] <needhelp> and again i got root..but am i root in knoppix or ubuntu?
[01:09] <erUSUL> needhelp, try again. Type exit and see what happens if the terminal closes open it again if not chroot again into ubuntu
[01:09] <_native_> knoppix
[01:09] <Mabus06> thirso, it freezes at hotplug if I have it enabled
[01:09] <grumbel> Mabus06: not sure about ubuntu, but in plain debian it works via: sudo module-assistant  auto-install nvidia
[01:10] <thirso> Mabus06: have you checked the forum?
[01:10] <_native_> you need to mount the / partition and fix lilo.
[01:10] <Merturk_NB> thirso, typed it in terminal
[01:10] <UnL0cK> http://pastebin.com/409471
[01:10] <Merturk_NB> nothing happened
[01:10] <needhelp> _native_ ok good..now ho w do i become root in ubuntu?
[01:10] <grumbel> Mabus06: and then just change 'nv' driver line to 'nvidia' in xorg.conf
[01:10] <dotb> Hi, I'm trying to install graphic card driver and it complains it can't find the kernel config file. Can anyone help?
[01:10] <_native_> sudo
[01:10] <UnL0cK> i have the last version  of gcc
[01:10] <UnL0cK> and still this happens http://pastebin.com/409471
[01:10] <Mabus06> no I am not just having this problem, grumbel or thirso
[01:10] <odat> i am having problems mounting my floppy drive  automount does not seem to be working
[01:10] <needhelp> so if i type sudo i will go from root in knoppix to root in ubuntu?
[01:10] <thirso> merriam: hm werd
[01:10] <thirso> ops
[01:10] <intelikey> needhelp root access in the running system is root period
[01:10] <Mabus06> I have had this problem for a while now and many people have tried to help, so all the basic stuff like that I have tried
[01:10] <nekostar> um
[01:11] <_native_> needhelp,  no
[01:11] <nekostar> if planetmirror is down is there another repository to use?
[01:11] <Merturk_NB> thirso, can we discuss over pm, I'm having difficulty following
[01:11] <Mabus06> One person told me I need to view a log
[01:11] <needhelp> ok well i wanna go to ubuntu first
[01:11] <p4yn3> during install i get the error "cannot figure out how to install the base system. No installable CD-ROM was found and no valid mirror was configured"
[01:11] <_native_> if all you need to do is fix your lilo config.
[01:11] <needhelp> i ran /sbin/lilo etc
[01:11] <grumbel> Mabus06: had throuble with an geforce5200fx once, needed to turn down AGP speed in bios to make it working
[01:11] <grumbel> Mabus06: otherwise it would freeze as soon at is was heavily used
[01:12] <_native_> im lost on your exact issue your having.
[01:12] <Cody`> what log file does ubuntu store the text that is put onscreen during boot
[01:12] <Mabus06> thirso: someone told me cat /var/log/messeges would show the problem, but he signed offline before I could show him the problem
[01:12] <grumbel> Mabus06: would however only freeze X11, rest of the computer was still up and running
[01:12] <Cody`> that may help me fix my sound issues
[01:12] <grumbel> Mabus06: had a munch of NV related error messages in 'dmesg'
[01:12] <Mabus06> grumbel: it freezes when starting hotplug system (and its PCI not AGP)
[01:12] <needhelp> i got error msg telling me unknown token and there is !" in lilo.conf above line 20
[01:12] <odat> anyone able to help with a floppy drive problem?
[01:13] <Mabus06> grumbel, thirso: join #helpme please?
[01:13] <thirso> Mabus06: do you have nvidia-glx installed?
[01:13] <needhelp> _native_ just tell me plz..how do i go to ubuntu from knoppix first
[01:13] <Mabus06> Tried that thirso
[01:13] <Mabus06> Tried installing from disk, installing from synaptic, installing from nvidia site
[01:13] <intelikey> needhelp paste your lilo.conf to pastebin and lets see what we can do.
[01:13] <K-Mode> How Do I Run The Installer From A Floppy Boot?
[01:13] <Mabus06> all freezes at hotplug
[01:13] <needhelp> whats pastebin?
[01:13] <nekostar> arg
[01:13] <nekostar> !pastebin
[01:13] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:14] <thirso> Mabus06: do you see it at lspci ?
[01:14] <Mabus06> and someone told me the driver was not the problem, that it was bios related. So I definately think grumbel is on the right track of the problem
[01:14] <UnL0cK> http://pastebin.com/409471
[01:14] <UnL0cK> help
[01:14] <Mabus06> Yes thirso, but as unknown device rather than what it should say
[01:14] <nekostar> would anyone have an alternate source for backports besides planetmirror?
[01:14] <_native_> needhelp,  you need to chroot into ubuntu
[01:14] <_native_> man chroot
[01:14] <Mabus06> 0000:01:09.9 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: unknown device 0326 (rev a1)
[01:14] <p4yn3> during install i get the error "cannot figure out how to install the base system. No installable CD-ROM was found and no valid mirror was configured"
[01:14] <needhelp> native gr8..and how do i do that?
[01:15] <_native_> needhelp, first you need to mount ubuntu's / partition
[01:15] <K-Mode> Is There No Dos Level Installer On The Ubuntu CD?
[01:15] <odat> anyone able to help with automounting problems?
[01:15] <erUSUL> needhelp, run chroot /mnt/hdc2
[01:15] <thirso> Mabus06: dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[01:15] <UnL0cK> buaaaaaaaaa
[01:15] <pizux> is someone got rune on his pc?
[01:15] <erUSUL> needhelp, as i already told you
[01:15] <ProN00b> how can i enable fastWrites on my nvidia ?
[01:15] <UnL0cK> nobody helps me
[01:15] <UnL0cK> :(
[01:15] <Julius> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3765
[01:15] <needhelp> erUSUL wb
[01:16] <dotb>  I'm trying to install graphic card driver and it complains it can't find the kernel config file. Can anyone help?
[01:16] <needhelp> erUSUL i tried i got permission denied
[01:16] <erUSUL> UnL0cK, install build-essentials
[01:16] <needhelp> intelikey i didnt like lilo coz i had to press shift to get the menu when i first start pc
[01:16] <jvai> aftr installing hoary.. * i now sleep w/ my notebook*  i got problems
[01:16] <Nail_Bunny> how do i un'root' in terminal
[01:16] <jiwon> um, if I want to use sbcl 9.4 in my ubuntu, how should I edit sources.list? I get only sbcl 9.2 when I apt-cache search sbcl
[01:16] <needhelp> otherwise it runs ubuntu directly
[01:17] <Silencer> huh
[01:17] <_native_> Nail_Bunny, un-root?
[01:17] <Silencer> now I install full ubuntu
[01:17] <Silencer> on my system
[01:17] <intelikey> needhelp that can be changed so that it displays the menu by default......
[01:17] <Silencer> damn it rocks
[01:17] <Nail_Bunny> _native_ like go back as user not as root
[01:17] <_native_> Nail_Bunny, exit or sudo -K
[01:17] <jiwon> hmm...
[01:17] <UnL0cK> erUSUL,  already did
[01:18] <Nail_Bunny> alright
[01:18] <_native_> Nail_Bunny, if you used su then exit if you used sudo then sudo -K
[01:18] <odat> anyone able to help with automounting problems?
[01:18] <kanako> installing breezy badger for amd64. which kernel should i choose? "linux-amd64-generic", "linux-image-amd64-generic", or "linux-image-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic"?
[01:18] <Nail_Bunny> _native_ do you know the terminal code then, for like an icon?
[01:18] <jiwon> can anyone with ubuntu 5.10 do "apt-cache showpkg sbcl" and tell me the version?
[01:18] <_native_> Nail_Bunny, not sure what you mean
[01:18] <erUSUL> UnL0cK, well try installing gcc-3.4-base
[01:18] <needhelp> check pastebin
[01:19] <jiwon> please?
[01:19] <dotb> anyone?
[01:19] <needhelp> erusul cant we install grub?
[01:19] <UnL0cK> does not exists, 3.3 base or 4 erUSUL
[01:19] <Nail_Bunny> _native_ becuase i have it set to Root Terminal, and i want to kow the command lione to run terminal, so i can so
[01:19] <green-mouse> jiwon, 1:0.9.2.0-3
[01:19] <intelikey> needhelp but if you get it where you can boot one time into the ubuntu system you can install grub over the top of lilo if you like....     we always dothings the hard way....    and we need the url for the pastebin needhelp
[01:19] <_native_> needhelp, i see nothing in the pastebin from you.
[01:20] <erUSUL> UnL0cK, Breezy?
[01:20] <jiwon> green-mouse thanks.. um, If I want to use 0.9.4 or newer, do you know what I should do?
[01:20] <erUSUL> UnL0cK, i have it here... check the reopos you are using
[01:20] <odat> anyone able to help with automounting problems?
[01:20] <needhelp> ok
[01:20] <green-mouse> jiwon, try to compile it
[01:21] <needhelp> pastebin.com/409487
[01:21] <UnL0cK> erUSUL, im adding multi and universe as we speak
[01:21] <jiwon> green-mouse he, except that.. :)
[01:21] <needhelp> intelikey i appreciate ur help ;)
[01:21] <dotb>  I'm trying to install graphic card driver and it complains it can't find the kernel config file. Can anyone help?
[01:21] <zoexii> hello, I installed a new graphics card (Nvida 5500fx) and now X11 will not start up (it crashes)  what is the config program that I can run to adjust to the new card?
[01:22] <needhelp> why do u guys think i got the  permission denied when i tried to chroot?
[01:22] <UnL0cK> erUSUL, im downloading them now
[01:22] <durt> zoexii: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:22] <odat> argggg
[01:22] <odat> anyone able to help with automounting problems?
[01:22] <UnL0cK> thx :) erUSUL
[01:22] <Merturk_NB> ok, that terminal command shut me down
[01:23] <Merturk_NB> that was annoying
[01:23] <upstairs> i need help
[01:23] <Merturk_NB> sound still doesn't work
[01:23] <zoexii> durt, isn't there a program to automatically configure the file?
[01:23] <zoexii> durt, I don't know much about configuring it.
[01:23] <needhelp> in the install section..i changed it to text,then menu then bla bla nothing worked
[01:23] <coolkev> What would i have to type in fstab in order to mount /dev/hda2 (ext3) on /media/c and /dev/hdb1 (ext2) on /media/d
[01:24] <SP> Hey
[01:24] <joseph> Hello.
[01:24] <SP> Anyone have a link for w32codecs?
[01:24] <joseph> Can anyone help me, KDE's colors go all funky. :(
[01:24] <durt> zoexii: its easiest to just change the "nv" in xorg.conf to "nvidia" for the driver under the video device section
[01:24] <odat> anyone able to help with automounting problems?
[01:24] <_jason> ubotu:  tell SP about w32codecs
[01:24] <_jason> odat:  maybe, what are you trying to do
[01:24] <zoexii> durt, that's all it takes?
[01:25] <odat> SP, go to apt-get.org and do a search then add one of repositories
[01:25] <Merturk_NB> need help with ESS 1869 sound chipset
[01:25] <zoexii> durt, will try then, thanks.
[01:25] <Merturk_NB> please
[01:25] <SP> Thanks
[01:25] <joseph> Can anyone help me, KDE's colors go all funky. :(
[01:25] <odat> _jason, my floppy drive does not mount / automount and neither does my card reader
[01:25] <joseph> Can anyone help me, KDE's colors go all funky. :(
[01:26] <_jason> odat:  no experience with those issues... sorry.  Have you tried searching the wiki and forums?
[01:26] <erUSUL> joseph,  "KDE's colors go all funky" is not a good description of your problem
[01:27] <odat> _jason, yes apparently this is a giant problem right now and no one knows the answer
[01:27] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, is a sound blaster compatible it should work
[01:27] <needhelp> hmm
[01:28] <needhelp> erUSUL why didnt chroot work?
[01:28] <borky> strange, locale prints out the right local, but it still doesnt work
[01:28] <borky> +e
[01:28] <ricardoblass> #niteroi
[01:28] <ricardoblass> oi
[01:28] <fl3r> Hey guys, i downloaded ubuntu, how i should burn it that i'll be able to boot from cd with it?
[01:28] <Merturk_NB> erusul, no sound card available
[01:29] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, does "lsmod | grep snd" tell something
[01:29] <fl3r> i got it as a iso file
[01:29] <Merturk_NB> erusul, it restarted my system last time
[01:29] <borky> burn image
[01:29] <ricardoblass> join #niteroi
[01:29] <landstalker> anyone aware of vfat writing issues with ubuntu breezy?
[01:29] <SP> FOund apt-get repository for w32codecs! Thanks a lot.
[01:29] <fl3r> Should i burn the iso file? or first to extract it and then burn as a date
[01:29] <fl3r> help please :L
[01:29] <landstalker> is it enabled in the kernel by default?
[01:29] <SP> I'll hang around here incase I get into any more trouble :P
[01:30] <Seveas> landstalker, yes it is
[01:30] <crimsun> landstalker: yes
[01:30] <erUSUL> needhelp, i do not know it has always worked for me with the ubuntu livecd
[01:30] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, does "lsmod | grep snd" tell something?
[01:30] <needhelp> ok thx
[01:30] <Merturk_NB> No
[01:30] <borky> fl3r, burn the .iso file, choose burn image in nero or whatever you use
[01:30] <landstalker> ok, thanks. Just checking :)
[01:30] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, no. it shutdown my system
[01:30] <fl3r> borky, but to burn the iso file as it as? no need to extract the files?
[01:30] <spudse> Hello, I want to make a variable part of the name of another variable. Something like this --> $image_id = 4; $image(+$image_id) = foo; <-- how do I do that ?
[01:31] <zoexii> durt, hey, I do not have an 'nvidia' module installed,
[01:31] <spudse> sry wrong channel
[01:31] <needhelp> intelikey u still here?
[01:31] <zoexii> durt, or a driver I guess,
[01:31] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, the comand i type shutdown your system 8| ???
[01:31] <zoexii> durt, how can I install one from the command line?
[01:31] <ompaul> !tell zoexii about nvidia
[01:31] <fanopnaic> spudse: I suggest you use a list :)
[01:32] <kisielk> hey guys
[01:32] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL yes, it was strange. one beep and then it shut it down. I typed it in the terminal as a limited user
[01:32] <odat> anyone able to help with automounting problems?
[01:33] <kisielk> hm
[01:33] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, something is really wrong here it has to be a kernel bug or crappy hardware
[01:33] <tarheelcoxn> odat: automounting what?
[01:33] <mark> hi, I am getting a weird error trying to use gksuexec after upgrading.  does anyone know if theres a known issue with that?
[01:33] <kisielk> how do I rerun the network configuration tool you get when you install ubuntu?
[01:33] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, let me try the command again
[01:33] <JabbaHut> Will Breezy run "well" on a 650mHz Thinkpad 600x lappy? How about Kubuntu?
[01:33] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL  what is it again?
[01:33] <maxkelley> how do I install .deb's ?
[01:33] <odat> tarheelcoxn, floppy drive won't automount / mount along with my card reader
[01:33] <coz> Hello ALL
[01:33] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, lsmod | grep snd
[01:33] <upstairs> My internet will not work.... dsl modem pings. google.com pings...obviously irc works but firefox will not load anything. any thought?
[01:34] <fanopnaic> JabbaHut: It runs reasonably well on my P3/500
[01:34] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, what am I looking for after I ender this command ?
[01:34] <mark> trying to "run as different user" gets "unable to run /usr/bin/gksu no such file or directory" but it clearly exists, any advice greatly appreciated...
[01:35] <tarheelcoxn> odat: do you have a line for your floppy in your fstab?
[01:35] <kanako> woot.. looks like breezy is installing correctly this time
[01:35] <kisielk> anyone? rerunning the network configuration thing?
[01:35] <odat> tarheelcoxn, how do i check?
[01:35] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, nothing happened
[01:36] <coz> ha snyone used Pdmenu
[01:36] <kanako> of course now that i've said that it will fail somewhere..
[01:36] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, see if the kernel have loaded the kernel modules for sound
[01:36] <tarheelcoxn> odat: go to a command line and type 'less /etc/fstab' without the quotes
[01:36] <coz> what I meant was has anyone used Pdmenu
[01:36] <Merturk_NB> what's the default root password?
[01:36] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, it should print a list of modules with snd in his name
[01:36] <agt> maxkelley, sudo dpkg -i <deb's filename>
[01:37] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, there is no root pass in ubuntu
[01:37] <_jason> ubotu:  tell Merturk_NB about sudo
[01:37] <odat> tarheelcoxn, /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto
[01:37] <needhelp> intelikey do u read my msgs?
[01:37] <erUSUL> !tell Merturk_NB about sudo
[01:37] <Merturk_NB> right, when I try to run as sudo
[01:37] <intelikey> needhelp i was busy.
[01:37] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, what are your laptop and soundcard models again?
[01:37] <tarheelcoxn> odat: 'ls -l /dev/fd0' should be a symlink
[01:37] <Merturk_NB> it asks for a password
[01:38] <_jason> Merturk_NB:  use your password
[01:38] <Merturk_NB> didn't set one for root
[01:38] <_jason> Merturk_NB:  use your user password
[01:38] <tarheelcoxn> odat: does it point to the same think that you see when you first stick in a floppy and do...
[01:38] <tarheelcoxn> odat: sudo tail -f /var/log/messages
[01:38] <jvai> w32codecs.. u have to check the backportz u need to use the old codecs
[01:39] <_jason> ubotu:  tell jvai about w32codecs
[01:39] <coolkev> there are no more hoary backports?
[01:39] <landstalker> anyone know a better way of identifying child processes other then ps axf?
[01:39] <Merturk_NB> still displaying nothing. Compaq Prosignia 120
[01:39] <tiglionabbit> is there a live-install dvd for breezy yet?
[01:39] <Merturk_NB> ess 1869
[01:39] <intelikey> needhelp i havent seen any messages from you execpt in the channel.      you must register to use pm
[01:39] <odat> tarheelcoxn, nothing happens when i stick in the floppy
[01:39] <tiglionabbit> I wanna download one
[01:39] <needhelp> ok
[01:39] <needhelp> well
[01:39] <tarheelcoxn> odat: you don't see _anything_ in /var/log/messages?
[01:40] <jvai> snap.. on google as we type.... w32codecs ?removed? from backportz?
[01:40] <intelikey> i gota go.   good luck and good day.
[01:40] <[devil-boy] > how can i get a darker background on x-chat
[01:40] <[devil-boy] > are there any themes or something?
[01:40] <BeGu> setting -> preferencers -> colors?
[01:40] <odat> tarheelcoxn, a bunch of stuff about usb but no floppy
[01:41] <_jason> jvai: ubotu sent you a link for w32codecs
[01:41] <SP> Hmm
[01:41] <mshade> ubotu: java
[01:41] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[01:41] <BeGu> !tell BeGu about sources.list
[01:41] <tarheelcoxn> odat: I've exhausted my troubleshooting knowledge :( ...tried www.google.com/linux ?
[01:41] <SP> What do I use to play a mp3 file once w32codecs is installed?
[01:41] <jvai> http://debian.tu-bs.de/mplayer/ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb look what i found.. & for breezy
[01:42] <jvai> oooo
[01:42] <jvai> i was n the browsr.. sorry
[01:42] <tiglionabbit> is this the release version?  http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/dvd/current/
[01:42] <SP> What do I use to play a mp3 file once w32codecs is installed?
[01:42] <_native_> SP, beep-media-player
[01:42] <SP> I'll try it
[01:42] <SP> :)
[01:43] <Mabus06> is it possible for me to install Fedora Core 4 without screwing up my ubuntu installation?
[01:43] <vitriol> i want to see the code for the ubuntu disk partition stuff in the installer...anybody know where i could find that on the install cd?
[01:43] <tiglionabbit> SP: you don't need w32codecs to play mp3s.  You need libmad or libgstreamer0.8-mad, right?
[01:43] <_jason> SP:  rythmbox should play them
[01:43] <_native_> SP, install libmad0 if its not already
[01:43] <mshade> odat:  nothing *will* happen when you stick in the floppy.. the floppy drive doesn't know when a disk is inserted until you try to access it.
[01:43] <Seveas> sp for b-m-p you don't need w32codecs
[01:43] <Julius> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3765
[01:43] <Seveas> b-m-p has mp3 builtin
[01:43] <SP> I'll tyr it
[01:43] <SP> try*
[01:43] <mshade> odat: go to (from gnome)  places -- computer -- floppy drive
[01:44] <jvai> ty ubotu.. i have that link bookmark'd already.. since wednsday
[01:44] <jvai> ty.. i tried.. but i'm not doin something right
[01:44] <Mabus06> is it possible for me to install Fedora Core 4 without screwing up my ubuntu installation?
[01:44] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, try 'sudo modprobe snd-es18xx'
[01:44] <tiglionabbit> ubotu dvd
[01:44] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can obtain by installing 'libdvdread3' and then running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[01:45] <tiglionabbit> oo nifty
[01:45] <Blake_Seven> can someone help me with samba
[01:45] <odat> mshade, it won't mount
[01:45] <jvai> ty ubotu... i'm dying to get this dvd thingy to work
[01:46] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, replace snd-es18xx with snd-ess1869?
[01:46] <mshade> odat: do you get an error message, or just an empty folder?  do the lights come on the drive when you open it up>
[01:46] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, no
[01:46] <ericz> anyone ever use linux to connect with a samsung a650 cell phone?
[01:47] <green-mouse> Blake_Seven, what problem?
[01:47] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, paste results in window?
[01:47] <odat> mshade, the drive is working because i can startup from it with a startup disk but ubuntu won't mount anything from it
[01:48] <SP> configure: error: Cannot find X11 headers/libraries
[01:48] <SP> When trying to configure bmp
[01:48] <hit3k> Can someone help me? When I boot ubuntu it works fine but when i start xchat the whole thing locks up and any other thing i try to run it locks up the system as well.
[01:48] <odat> mshade, i get an error message that says it can't mount it
[01:48] <SP> How much RAM do you hace, hit3k?
[01:48] <Blake_Seven> I try to open network neborhood and xp says workgroup not accessible
[01:48] <hit3k> uhh
[01:48] <kent>  SP why do you try to compile it? its in ubuntus arhive..
[01:48] <Mabus06> can anyone tell me if I can install fedora core without overwiting or otherwise screwing up my ubuntu?
[01:48] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, FATAL: Error inserting snd_es18xx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/isa/snd-es18xx.ko): No such device
[01:48] <Merturk_NB> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_es18xx
[01:48] <SP> Serious? I couldn't find it..
[01:48] <hit3k> 128 and 256 cards
[01:49] <SP> Hmm
[01:49] <SP> Should run fine
[01:49] <SP> Must be another problem
[01:49] <ericz> has anyone used a samsung a650 cell phone w/ linux before?
[01:49] <ericz> or bitpim... with any phone?
[01:49] <tarheelcoxn> odat: you've tried mounting it manually from a command line?
[01:49] <green-mouse> Blake_Seven, u can show me config?
[01:49] <hit3k> Would the kernel affect it?
[01:49] <kent> SP its called beep-media-player.
[01:49] <Mabus06> can anyone tell me if I can install fedora core without overwiting or otherwise screwing up my ubuntu???
[01:49] <SP> Where can I find it?
[01:50] <hit3k> Mabus06: dual boot?
[01:50] <Blake_Seven> I am using webmin to setup. where do I find config File ?
[01:50] <odat> tarheelcoxn, how?
[01:50] <kent> SP in universe.  You have to enable the universe..
[01:50] <tarheelcoxn> odat: sudo mount <device_name>
[01:50] <Mabus06> yes hit3k, but is dual boot easy to do?
[01:50] <budluva> hey, does anyone know if the azureus resize bug is fixed yet?
[01:50] <SP> ..how? Yes, i'm a noob. :(
[01:50] <tarheelcoxn> odat: it's /dev/fd0 I think
[01:50] <hit3k> maybe its just kde but it also happens when i run Gnome
[01:50] <green-mouse> Blake_Seven, /etc/samba/samba.conf
[01:50] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, you have to pass modprobe the io ports of your card. i do not know haow to figure them out
[01:51] <odat> tarheelcoxn, mount: can't find fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:51] <GTroy> if I have kubuntu-desktop installed how do I switch over?
[01:51] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, I don't know what that means. what's modprobe?
[01:51] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, take a look at this thread http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg11663.html
[01:51] <kent> SP, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html
[01:51] <mshade> GTroy: the sessions menu from GDM login screen
[01:51] <GTroy> cool
[01:51] <SP> Thanks :)
[01:51] <GTroy> mshade: thanks
[01:52] <Mabus06> how do I install dual boot!!!!
[01:52] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, is the program that loads modules (drivers) into the kernel
[01:52] <SP> Oh, you have to uncomment the lines from sources.list?
[01:52] <hit3k> Partition your hard drive(s)
[01:52] <hit3k> using fdisk..
[01:52] <mshade> odat: tried from command line?
[01:52] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, will I have to do this after every reboot?
[01:52] <Mabus06> what is fdisk?
[01:52] <kent> SP, well technically yes.  But its more easy to do it from synaptic as that example shows..
[01:52] <green-mouse> Blake_Seven, sorry /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:53] <kent> SP, but if you can do it from editing sources.list go ahead..  its your choise
[01:53] <odat> well i can mount it from the command line
[01:53] <SP> Ah
[01:53] <tarheelcoxn> odat: when you looked for your floppy in /etc/fstab, what did you find?
[01:53] <mshade> odat: you can or cannot?
[01:53] <SP> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:53] <SP> Right?
[01:53] <Blake_Seven> go it how should I show it to you ?
[01:54] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, once you have the right modprobe comand line you can edit /etc/modules.conf to make it permanent
[01:54] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, take a look at this thread http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg11663.html
[01:54] <hit3k> Mabus06: Its a command thing that lets you partition your disk or Fedora might do it automatically for you if you want it too I've never installed it so i dont really know
[01:54] <kent> SP, correct :)
[01:54] <odat> mshade, i can mount it but i can't make any changes to it
[01:54] <SP> Thought so
[01:54] <odat> tarheelcoxn, fd0 is where its at
[01:54] <SP> Update time
[01:54] <mshade> odat: what's the line in /etc/fstab?
[01:54] <tarheelcoxn> odat: then that's really weird
[01:54] <odat> mshade, how do i check
[01:54] <mshade> odat: cat /etc/fstab |grep fd0
[01:54] <tarheelcoxn> odat: less /etc/fstab
[01:54] <BeGu> I have problem adding repositories... I've searched for many sources.list with google but none of them has worked properly....
[01:55] <kent> SP universe contains most of the things any one wants. And its always better to install from there instead of compiling from source..   if you compile from source it will be harder to upgrade that package etc.
[01:55] <odat> tarheelcoxn, i go it to mount with what you said
[01:55] <SP> Install bmp :)
[01:55] <SP> Indeed
[01:55] <SP> Thanks for tip :)
[01:55] <tarheelcoxn> odat: you have to give exactly what's in /etc/fstab
[01:55] <green-mouse> Blake_Seven, "cat /etc/samba/smb.com" show output to me in private
[01:55] <WebLOCH> oreeet
[01:55] <_jason> BeGu:  what are you trying to add?
[01:55] <odat> mshade, /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[01:55] <tarheelcoxn> eg. if it's /dev/fd0 in fstab, then you have to pass that to mount
[01:55] <kent> BeGu, how do you meen search for sources.list? use the one you have from default and perhaps add universe and multiverse. Thats all most would ever need..
[01:55] <tarheelcoxn> odat: then you type: sudo mount /dev/fd0
[01:55] <mshade> odat: ls -l /media/floppy0
[01:56] <pupil> how do I open a console and have no bars,.. have nothing except a thin line for the border and the ability to scroll
[01:56] <SP> Hmm
[01:56] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, thank you for how you've helped so far
[01:56] <BeGu> I don't know what to add to my sources.list
[01:56] <SP> bmp won't start..
[01:56] <WebLOCH> Anyone have any advice on a graphical config app for Apache2 ?
[01:56] <landstalker> try Ctrl+Alt+F5
[01:56] <SP> Should I install through apt-get or synaptic?
[01:56] <reiki> hmmm... I wonder if I have a memory leak. I have open xchat, a terminal window that's idle, and system monitor. And I have 286 of 512MB in use and 175MB of swap
[01:56] <mshade> WebLOCH: visual editor improved
[01:56] <landstalker> erm, no, I think its Alt+Shift+F5
[01:56] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, you are wellcome
[01:56] <kent> SP, your choise. Both works...  synaptic is easier since you can search there. Search for beep-media-player
[01:56] <landstalker> @pupil
[01:56] <WebLOCH> mshade, I meant more a statically designed one, rather than a text editor
[01:57] <WebLOCH> mshade, i have a pretty icon i want to assign to something
[01:57] <kent> BeGu, then follow this http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse
[01:57] <pupil> landstalker, its ok, .. you don't get it
[01:57] <mshade> WebLOCH: lol.  webmin might do it? i dunno.  always just used httpd.conf
[01:57] <BeGu> kent, ok, i'll try.. thanks
[01:57] <hit3k> Would more RAM stop my system from locking up?
[01:57] <landstalker> pupil, then ask correctly
[01:57] <odat> mshade, -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 1184115 2005-08-08 04:57 Norton Windoctor 2005.zip
[01:57] <pupil> odat, thanks
[01:57] <landstalker> ahhh, I see pupil
[01:58] <SP> Kent: It doesn't seem to want to start...
[01:58] <mshade> hit3k: it'll help if you're using swap too much.  if ram and swap get fille dup, machine crashes
[01:58] <landstalker> you want like a monitoring window eh
[01:58] <mshade> odat: sorry.  ls -ld /media/floppy0
[01:58] <YokoZar> what does this error mean in evolution: No provider available for protocol `email'
[01:58] <YokoZar> Happens when I try to filter messages
[01:58] <reiki> I think I'll reboot and see if it cleans up. back in a bit...
[01:58] <hit3k> How do i check how much im using?
[01:58] <kent> SP, start it from a terminal and see if it complains about something..
[01:58] <odat> mshade,  drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 7168 1969-12-31 19:00 /media/floppy0
[01:58] <IRCMonkey_> hi, guys, is the rc-dvd-powerpc support live DVD? Thanks
[01:58] <SP> Started now
[01:59] <SP> Did fine through terminal
[01:59] <SP> :)
[01:59] <mshade> odat: sudo chmod 777 /media/floppy0
[01:59] <kent> SP, great :) You might need some mp3-plugin though.. but you'l notice if that works or not :)
[01:59] <odat> mshade,  ok
[01:59] <SP> Okay, thank
[01:59] <SP> s
[01:59] <mshade> odat: now write to it.
[01:59] <mshade> odat: or delete from it.
[01:59] <hit3k> mshade: how do i check how much Swap and Ram im using
[02:00] <Mabus06> ANYONE: ubuntu does not work with my geforce, fedora core doesn't want to install, windows works with geforce but costs money. What OS should I use to run the geforce?
[02:00] <odat> mshade, still won't let me
[02:00] <landstalker> anyone ever tried rm -rf / in a live cd?
[02:00] <green-mouse> hit3k, top
[02:00] <mshade> hit3k: applications > system utils > system monitor
[02:00] <mshade> hit3k: or free -m in a terminal
[02:00] <hit3k> ok thanks
[02:00] <Mabus06> becauese apparently no ubuntu user is skilled enough to get my geforce fx 5500 to work with my system on ubuntu
[02:00] <mshade> hit3k: you can also add a monitor to the top bar
 Sorry did I do that wrong I got kicked off
[02:00] <mshade> odat: ls -ld /media/floppy0 again
[02:00] <khalid_hosny> hi
[02:00] <__UrSiNhA__> Preciso de ajuda, estou tentando fazer funcionar meu speedy da telefonica, num modem adsl USB Arescom, e no consigo... :(
[02:00] <SP> Kent, it also may be helpful to know i'm on Hoary..
[02:01] <hit3k> mshade: yeah i did on Gnome
[02:01] <Seveas> !nvidia
[02:01] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:01] <Seveas> Mabus06, ^--
[02:01] <Mabus06> Seveas, yes I have been referred to there a few hundred times, but thank you anyway
[02:01] <odat> mshade,  drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 7168 1969-12-31 19:00 /media/floppy0
[02:01] <hit3k> I'm not using any swap and im using 25% of my RAM
[02:01] <khalid_hosny> i have proplem when installing 5.10 from my hard disk
[02:01] <mshade> odat: you issued the chmod command?
[02:01] <kent> SP, ah..  ok. Well, it should not be a problem. The first link I sent you assumed you where running breezy..    but if you just added universe etc it should be ok. :)
[02:01] <green-mouse> plp where possible topost big messeges? like config file?
[02:01] <odat> mshade, yes
[02:02] <Mabus06> Seveas: I have thoroguhly racked the brain of many ubuntu users, everybody gives up.
[02:02] <kanako> ubuntu seemed to install just fine and i'm at a point after restarting and letting it configure more software where it seems to be having problems starting x. anyone know if there's a command to allow x to try and auto-configure itself?
[02:02] <SP> Hmm, BMP freezes when trying to open a mp3...
[02:02] <mshade> odat: ok, unmount the floppy with 'sudo umount /media/floppy0
[02:02] <mojo> hello every1
[02:02] <kent> SP,  not had the time to upgrade yet.. or you just dont feel like it?
[02:02] <SP> I tried
[02:02] <SP> had to reinstall hoary
[02:02] <khalid_hosny> how to tell the installer to search for the files in my hd instead of cdrom?
[02:02] <Blake_Seven> my bad sorry
[02:02] <SP> xserver wouldn't start
[02:02] <mshade> odat: then mount it as a user with 'mount /media/floppy0
[02:02] <hit3k> mshade: swap should be used automatically right..
[02:02] <mojo> I am at the Flemington Racourse tracking the speed and ration of horses for Melbourne Cup using Ubuntu Hoary + special softwares
[02:02] <__UrSiNhA__> I Need Help... I have a modem ARESCOM USB, and I'm not can install :(
[02:02] <mshade> hit3k: if needed, yes.
[02:02] <crimsun> mojo: neat
[02:02] <mshade> hit3k: i take it no swap is being used?
[02:02] <kent> SP, and you are sure you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed? i think bmp needs it to play mp3. But it should complain.. not just freeze :(
[02:02] <hit3k> mshade: I'm not using any swap and only 25% of my ram
[02:03] <mshade> hit3k: if not, then you can probably be sure it's not a 'running out of ram' issue.
[02:03] <Ender_W> Should I be able to play a movie dvd right after install?
 did you get my config file ?
[02:03] <reiki> ok... not sure what was leaking but memory is back down to 149MB in use and no swap. Maybe I shouldn't let this run for weeks on end :)
[02:03] <SP> How d
[02:03] <mojo> any1 from Australia and loving betting horse might know Melbourne Cup
[02:03] <SP> how do I know if I have gstreamer?
[02:03] <mshade> hit3k: it still might be the quality of the ram, one dimm may have gone bad.  you can boot to a memtest utility from grub
[02:03] <crimsun> SP: you do if you installed Ubuntu
[02:03] <ericz> when you install bitpim, what's the command to run it...
[02:03] <kent> SP, if you have problems with xserver you should probably file bugreports on it. It should work for every one..
[02:03] <ericz> "bitpim" doesnt work
[02:03] <mshade> hit3k: do that tonight before you go to bed and let it run all night.
[02:03] <green-mouse> Blake_Seven, no...
[02:03] <__UrSiNhA__> help help! rs
[02:03] <kent> SP, search for it in synaptic. :)
[02:03] <Mabus06> I will donate money ubuntu if anyone can get me to the ubuntu desktop using my geforce.
[02:04] <SP> Oop, nope, gstreamer-mad isn't on there
[02:04] <hit3k> mshade: thats like 18 hours from now (i'm an aussie) I'll do it before I go out later
[02:04] <SP> Hehe
[02:04] <Korio> Mabus06, whats the problem?
[02:04] <SP> *installs it*
[02:04] <mshade> hit3k: either way:) let it run a few hours
[02:04] <Mabus06> Korio, it freezes at hotplug subsytem.
[02:04] <hit3k> Yeah I will
[02:04] <hit3k> thanks
[02:04] <green-mouse> where he can post big config file?
[02:04] <ericz> whats the command to open bitpim... i installed it using alien on the rpm, but the command "bitpim" wont work...
[02:04] <Korio> Mabus06, thats weird wich card u have?
[02:04] <odat> mshade, it acts like i  don't have permission
[02:04] <kanako> problem starting x server. is there a command to try and let it reconfigure?
[02:05] <mshade> odat: to umount or to mount
[02:05] <Mabus06> Tried installing drivers through synaptic. Tried installing from CD. Tried installing from the website. Tried installing from apt-get. Tried to boot without installing a driver. All freeze at hotplug subystem Korio.
[02:05] <odat> mshade, both
[02:05] <Mabus06> Geforce FX 5500 PCI
[02:05] <kent> SP, hopefully it works now :)
[02:05] <SP> Hopefully
[02:05] <SP> Starting bmp now
[02:05] <mshade> odat: sudo umount /media/floppy0 says what?
[02:05] <Nail_Bunny> in mplayer how do you inlarge the video size
[02:05] <Korio> Mabus06, how can you use synaptic if ubuntu isnt booted? lol
[02:05] <__UrSiNhA__> *help*
[02:05] <__UrSiNhA__> rs
[02:05] <Nail_Bunny> i try but it just englares the frame, not video
[02:05] <Mabus06> Korio: I can boot to ubuntu just fine using my onboard
[02:05] <pupil> what mirror are you guys using for /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:06] <Korio> well i dont know much, but are you shure you enabled the driver in xorg.conf?
[02:06] <pupil> I changed from us one to de .. but now de is not working
[02:06] <Mabus06> But any time I try to boot with my bios settings set to use my PCI instead of the onboard video, it freezes at hotplug. Regardless of driver type, or no drivers used at all.
[02:06] <odat> mshade, it unmounts and mounts if i do it from the terminal but not from gnome
[02:06] <Mabus06> I was told it is not a driver problem.
[02:06] <green-mouse> Blake_Seven, try http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/
[02:06] <mshade> odat: can you mount/umount it as user from command line?
[02:06] <Nail_Bunny> how do you enlarge the video in MPlayer
[02:07] <Korio> Mabus06, well you could just screw the nvidia card
[02:07] <odat> mshade, yes
[02:07] <mshade> Nail_Bunny: 'f' for full screen
[02:07] <mshade> odat: without using sudo?
[02:07] <Korio> Mabus06, i'll doubt you'll be playing games in linux
[02:07] <Nail_Bunny> mshade that just enlagres thje frame, not the video
[02:07] <us> i wrote a minute about ago. I can't seem to get my internet connection up. I have two windows boxes on the same connections that work fine.  Most of the time the DSL modem and google.com ping. But, nothing will load in firefox. any thoughts?
[02:07] <mshade> Nail_Bunny: are you running from command line or from a file manager?
[02:07] <hit3k> mshade: Now I'm confused with swap and ram should swap start running when the ram runs out?
[02:07] <lsuactiafner> Nail_Bunny : -fs  or  -zoom -xy 2
[02:07] <mshade> Nail_Bunny: that means you're using the 'x11' driver, by the way.
[02:07] <Nail_Bunny> mshade command line i think
[02:07] <Mabus06> Korio: "screwing the card" is not an option
[02:08] <lsuactiafner> Nail_Bunny : there is a #mplayer
[02:08] <odat> mshade, yes
[02:08] <mshade> Nail_Bunny: alright.. instead of just mplayer video.mpg do mplayer -zoom video.mpg
[02:08] <lsuactiafner> Nail_Bunny : -vo xv is hardware acceleration
[02:08] <Mabus06> I'm starting to think that nobody who ever joins this channell is 1337 enough to solve the problem
[02:08] <Korio> Mabus06, my nvidia card works perfect, it might not be the card thats the problem
[02:08] <SP> Kent: Froze again :(
[02:08] <Nail_Bunny> mshade ill try
[02:08] <mshade> Nail_Bunny: then you can use F and resize the window and fancy stuff.  there are better drivers to use though
[02:08] <Mabus06> I'd rather donate money to ubuntu than spend money paying someone to fix it
[02:08] <mshade> odat: hmm this is very odd.
[02:08] <Mabus06> Korio: it is not the card, it works just fine with windows
[02:08] <mshade> odat: try sudo chmod 777 /dev/fd0
[02:08] <Korio> Mabus06, have you tried other distros?
 sent to your scerrn name
[02:09] <cillin> by any chance are you talking about the nividia geforce 2 go?
[02:09] <odat> mshade, when i mounted it without using sudo i was able to delete from it and unmount it from gnome
[02:09] <kent> SP sad to hear.. :(  I dont know why it does that.. it shouldn't :(  Its always a good practice to file a well written bugreport on it.  bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <__UrSiNhA__> Anybody help me......plexxxx
[02:09] <mshade> odat: right, you need to mount it as a user to have it be accessible for you
[02:10] <mshade> odat: but after running 'sudo chmod 777 /dev/fd0' you should be able to mount from gnome too :|
[02:10] <mshade> odat: unfortunately, i don't have a floppy around to test.
[02:10] <Nail_Bunny> thx
 did you get the file ?
[02:10] <green-mouse> Blake_Seven, give me a little time...
[02:11] <odat> mshade, nope no luck
[02:11] <Blake_Seven> no rush at all.. just want to make sure you got it.. I wait ...
[02:11] <Mabus06> korio: no, fedora core has troubles installing
[02:12] <Mabus06> stops at /sbin/loader or something
[02:12] <Korio> Mabus06, well its probably the combination between the card and some other hardware... but im just guessing now
[02:12] <Korio> sorry
[02:13] <cillin> korio, missed the start of the conversation - what card are you having problems with?
[02:13] <Korio> cillin, i dont have a problem with anything Mabus06  has
[02:13] <Korio> :/
[02:13] <green-mouse> Blake_Seven, I dont get complete file, try to send it to man.gregory@gmail.com
[02:13] <cillin> whoops - Mabus06?
[02:14] <ubuntu> I'm trying the Ubuntu LiveCD right now to see how well it will work with my hardware. The only problem so far is the monitor. It's best resolution is 1680x1050, but that isn't an option under "Screen Resolution". I know you can change it in xorg.conf, but is there a more user-friendly way?
[02:15] <odat> mshade, automount just won't do it
[02:15] <mshade> odat: this is behaving like a bug...
[02:16] <budluva> ubuntu, as far as i know xorg.conf is the only way
[02:16] <budluva> someone correct me if im wrong
[02:16] <odat> mshade, its all over the wiki
[02:16] <budluva> but as far as i know its xorg.conf
[02:17] <SP> Hmm, i've installed VLC, i've opened the MP3, i've started to play it, but no sound is coming out :X
[02:17] <crimsun> SP: are you using esd or alsa?
[02:17] <SP> I'm using OSS atm
[02:18] <SP> Haven't tried anything else
[02:18] <SP> Let me see
[02:18] <ubuntu> So how much of Ubuntu is done by the community? I understand there's a company behind it.
[02:18] <crimsun> SP: then you need to install vlc-plugin-alsa, then in Settings> Preferences> Audio> Output Modules> Advanced Options> Default> ALSA
[02:18] <SP> Trying Alsa, doesn't work..
[02:18] <SP> k
 e-mail on it's way
[02:18] <crimsun> ubuntu: the core desktop is by core developers
[02:19] <odat> mshade, people are having massive problems with automount except for the cd
[02:20] <green-mouse> Blake_Seven, Do u can propose somethink else?
[02:20] <mshade> odat: hmm
[02:20] <Blake_Seven> ?
[02:20] <mshade> odat: what happens when you right click floppy0 and select 'mount volume'
[02:20] <mshade> odat: same thing?
[02:20] <green-mouse> Blake_Seven, sorry myst
[02:21] <SP> Crimsun, still not outputting.
[02:21] <odat> mshade, yea
[02:21] <Oarnta> anyone else have ubuntu install [badger]  fail on lib2sqlite (I think thats the package)
[02:21] <mshade> odat: well, here's a workaround.  not pretty, but it'll do.
[02:21] <crimsun> SP: is only vlc having problems?
[02:21] <green-mouse> Blake_Seven, i get u file i need somke time to understend configuration I will send answer to u e-mail
[02:22] <odat> mshade, ?
[02:22] <mshade> odat: add an application launcher whose command is 'mount /media/floppy0'
[02:22] <SP> Nope
[02:22] <SP> I can't get music to play anywhere
[02:22] <stevenj> Is anyone getting .xsession-errors after a breezy (clean) install?
[02:22] <crimsun> SP: cat /proc/asound/modules
[02:22] <SP> I got a error about the xserver not wanting to start
[02:22] <hit3k> SP: is it your sound card i have the same problem
[02:22] <mshade> odat: add a second for the umount command if you like
[02:22] <odat> mshade, did that already
[02:22] <SP> I'm using onboard
[02:22] <hit3k> ah
[02:22] <mshade> odat: does that work?
[02:22] <crimsun> SP: the X server has nothing to do with sound
[02:22] <Blake_Seven> thanks alot any help will be great
[02:22] <odat> mshade, yea
[02:23] <hit3k> my I should try my onboard on linux i havnt tried it
[02:23] <Oarnta> stevenj: what driver did you use for xserver?
[02:23] <SP> I know
[02:23] <SP> I was answering someone else
[02:23] <SP> Heh
[02:23] <hit3k> anyways
[02:23] <crimsun> SP: it helps when you address people
[02:23] <SP> crimsun: sorry
[02:23] <SP> Heh
[02:23] <stevenj> Oarnta, its makes no difference if I use nv or (ubuntu) Nvidia
[02:23] <crimsun> SP: np
[02:23] <SP> Not really use to such a busy room
[02:23] <SP> crimsun: 0 snd_intel8x0
[02:23] <Oarnta> stevenj: what video card do you have?
[02:24] <crimsun> SP: ok. So the song appears to play, but you can't hear anything, correct?
[02:24] <SP> crimsun: Correct
[02:24] <crimsun> SP: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:24] <stevenj> Oarnta, this is my post on ubuntu forums (I have a geforce 5200) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83486
[02:24] <Korio> anyone know a site with good nature wallpapers?
[02:24] <Korio> or photo manipulated
[02:24] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, thread didn't help. Is there anything else I can look into
[02:25] <odat> mshade, this bug is a big one considering we just started a company building Ubuntu linux computers this bites a bit
[02:25] <SP> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3767
[02:25] <odat> mshade, used to work perfect in hoary
[02:25] <Oarnta> stevenj: have you tried using the vesa driver instead of the nvidia specific one, just to see if it works that way?
[02:25] <Oarnta> stevenj: you won't get any acceleration, but that might help diagnose
[02:26] <crimsun> SP: mute both 'Headphone Jack Sense' and 'Line Jack Sense'
[02:26] <mshade> odat: try editing the commandline of the launcher to read like this:  mount /media/floppy0 && nautilus /media/floppy0
[02:26] <crimsun> SP: amixer sset 'Headphone Jack Sense' off && amixer sset 'Line Jack Sense' off
[02:26] <mshade> odat: then it'll at least open nautilus after it's mounted.
[02:26] <stevenj> Oarnta, that is (I assume) the default driver after a fresh install and checked 3 times the xsession-errors before anything
[02:26] <bur[n] er> apokryphos: i'm sold on ktorrent over azureus :)
[02:27] <josh_1> Hey Guys!
[02:27] <Korio> is XDM broken in ubuntu? :(
[02:27] <Oarnta> hmm...
[02:27] <mshade> odat: got that?
[02:27] <SP> crimsun: done, try again?
[02:27] <josh_1> I am having some trouble with initNG, I was wondering if anybody is online here and able to help?
[02:27] <crimsun> SP: yes
[02:27] <Mabus06> my "updating bios" instructions include the use of a bootable floppy.... is there a way I could make a bootable CD instead?!
[02:27] <Luigi_v> aja
[02:27] <odat> mshade, doesn't work
[02:27] <Oarnta> stevenj: Have ya tried a different video card?
[02:27] <mshade> odat: any errors?
[02:28] <stevenj> Oarnta, I have not...it worked with hoary I think....have you ever seen this before?
[02:28] <odat> mshade, no
[02:28] <SP> crimsun: Still nothing.
[02:28] <crimsun> SP: try muting 'External Amplifier'
[02:28] <Oarnta> I'm mostly a debian user, I've had these problems with it, so
[02:29] <Oarnta> stevenj: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:29] <Oarnta> "
[02:29] <Merturk_NB> grr
[02:29] <SP> crimsun: still nothing
[02:29] <crimsun> SP: this is a fresh install of Breezy, correct?
[02:29] <mshade> odat: change the && to ;
[02:29] <Oarnta> stevenj: and select the vesa driver specifically.
[02:29] <Mabus06> my "updating bios" instructions include the use of bootable flopppies... I don't have a floppy drive, can someone help eme to make a bootable CD?
[02:29] <mshade> odat: that'll work
[02:29] <SP> Boary, because breezy had xserver issues for me
[02:30] <Korio> Is there a better alternative than WINE?
[02:30] <crimsun> SP: ok, I presumed you're using Breezy
[02:30] <Oarnta> Korio: Other than using WineX from CVX, not really
[02:30] <odat> mshade, nope
[02:30] <mshade> Korio: for what?
[02:30] <josh_1> Does anybody know how to load the fglrx module with initNG. I have a radeon graphics card configured by the ATI driver tutorial on the ubuntu forums. It works fine and everything when booting with init.d, but when I boot with initNG and run fgl_glxgears it returns errors (even though fglrxinfo returned ati info)
[02:30] <SP> crimsun: Sorry, failed to mention..
[02:30] <Korio> mshade,  i wanted to emulate FileTopia
[02:30] <crimsun> SP: you need to unmute one or both of 'Headphone Jack Sense' and 'Line Jack Sense' then
[02:31] <SP> unmuted
[02:31] <mshade> Korio: what's filetopia.. file manager of some sort?
[02:31] <crimsun> SP: which? both?
[02:31] <SP> crimsun: both
[02:31] <crimsun> SP: what if you just unmute one?
[02:31] <SP> crimsun: which?
[02:31] <Mabus06> I need to know how to make a bootable CD
[02:31] <crimsun> SP: choose one
[02:31] <stevenj> Oarnta, the thing is with nvidia glx installed I can run glxgears fine with 3K fps and I'm logging in fine and getting on the net fine...I just dont understand what I means
[02:32] <SP> crimsun: headphone jack sense muted
[02:32] <crimsun> SP: any luck?
[02:32] <josh_1> glxgears works fine, but not fgl_glxgears
[02:32] <SP> No
[02:32] <Mabus06> can anyone tell me how to make a bootable CD?!?!
[02:32] <SP> Crimsun: do I need to unmute external amplifier?
[02:32] <sproingie> Mabus06: burn a bootable image
[02:33] <Korio> Mabus06, i believe you can use nero for that
[02:33] <Mabus06> sproingie: no, not an iso
[02:33] <ubuntu> Is it unusual that when I try to open an MP3, it tells me it cannot play the file and I may need to install a codec?
[02:33] <Mabus06> And nero costs money, I don't have it.
[02:33] <crimsun> SP: then you need to play with combinations of umuting and muting combinations of 'Headphone Jack Sense', 'Line Jack Sense', and 'External Amplifier'
[02:33] <Oarnta> stevenj: so it works fine, just gives an error that doesn't seem to come from a problem that affects you
[02:33] <Korio> nero can be free ;)
[02:33] <mshade> odat: ok, aparrantly we can't stack commands in program launchers:) that's ok
[02:33] <SP> I'll try
[02:33] <Yoriko> ubuntu: if you don't have win32 codecs, yes.
[02:33] <sproingie> remaster a knoppix cd then ... or see how they do it
[02:33] <mshade> odat: we'll create a simple script.  open a text editor of any kind
[02:33] <ubuntu> Yoriko: I'm just running the LiveCD.
[02:33] <Korio> Does xine play everything like VLC does?
[02:33] <Mabus06> I have a free thing that burns bootable CDs, Korio, sproingie
[02:33] <mshade> odat: may I private message you?  are you registered on freenode with nickserv?
[02:34] <Yoriko> I don't think the live CD has the codecs, I never used it.
[02:34] <Mabus06> But I need help with the options.
[02:34] <ku_dude> anybody here knows what GUI-based utility in Gnome there is to mount a FAT drive as writable?
[02:34] <Korio> Does mplayer handle .wmv files?
[02:34] <ubuntu> Yoriko: But those codecs are available via Add Applications?
[02:34] <stevenj> Oarnta, well true...I am just curious as to what it means
[02:34] <mshade> ku_dude: if /etc/fstab is set up right, it'll mount as writable every time
[02:34] <Yoriko> Via universe and multiverse repositories, yes.
[02:34] <mshade> ku_dude: what kind of device
[02:34] <Yoriko> its documented, look up Restricted Formats.
[02:35] <Oarnta> stevenj: I honestly have no clue, I'm not sure
[02:35] <stevenj> Oarnta, thanks
[02:35] <mshade> odat: you there?
[02:35] <Oarnta> Korio: You need to get the w32codecs package to play wmv files
[02:35] <Oarnta> stevenj: sorry I coudn't help more
[02:35] <Korio> Oarnta, Yea i did and yet it doesnt handle wmv
[02:35] <Yoriko> ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:35] <boci^> Ubuntu have "BUM" like console tool?
[02:35] <_jason> Korio:  mplayer?
[02:35] <blackvd> anyone around here having trouble with their mplayer plugin?
[02:36] <Korio> _jason, yes mplayer
[02:36] <boci^> for enable/disable services
[02:36] <SP> crimsun: i've tried all the combinations I can think of :(
[02:36] <stevenj> Oarnta, thanks for the alt suggestions...I can't find anyone who knows what it means..no one
[02:36] <ku_dude> mshade: it's an external USB Drive..
[02:36] <_jason> Korio:  mplayer plays wmv's for me, have you tried different files?  I believe the latest wmv encoding cannot be played by anything
[02:36] <mshade> ku_dude: it doesn't come up automatically?
[02:36] <Oarnta> stevenj: UTSL... (google if it you must)
[02:36] <ku_dude> mshade: it does.. but only read-only.
[02:36] <Korio> _jason,  is that wmp 10?
[02:37] <Oarnta> Korio: Are you talking about DRM video?
[02:37] <_jason> Korio:  I believe so
[02:37] <crimsun> SP: cat /proc/asound/cards
[02:37] <mshade> ku_dude: well, we'll probably have to edit fstab manually first, but I can help you get it workin ;)
[02:37] <stevenj> Oarnta, oh I spend hours today at work..I found references on the ubuntu bugs and some others, but no one knows what it means
[02:37] <Korio> Oarnta,  nope just plain wmv files
[02:37] <ku_dude> mshade: cool.. thanks..
[02:37] <Korio> Oarnta, i did just as it said in ubuntuguide.org
[02:37] <Oarnta> Korio: Do they play on windows? just thought I'd ask
[02:37] <SP> 0 [I82801BAICH2   ] : ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2
[02:37] <SP>                      Intel 82801BA-ICH2 with AD1885 at 0xe800, irq 17
[02:37] <budluva> can someone help me fix my nvidia driver install, i still cant seem to get glxinfo or glxgears to run, they both seg fault, nvidia-settings opens fine, but has no settings, the settings box is empty, i've installed the driver over and over and i cant seem to get anything to work, i've tried apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy and i've also tried the binary driver install, nothing seems to work
[02:37] <mshade> stevenj: what's the issue?
[02:38] <Korio> Oarnta, yea they shure do
[02:38] <mshade> ku_dude: privat emessage?
[02:38] <stevenj> mshade, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83486
[02:38] <mshade> ku_dude: are you registered with nickserv?
[02:38] <kent> budluva, are you sure the kernel module is loaded?  run lsmod from a terminal.
[02:38] <ku_dude> mshade: nope.
[02:38] <Oarnta> budluva: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select the "nvidia" driver
[02:38] <ku_dude> mshade: how do I do that?
[02:39] <ku_dude> mshade: haven't use IRC in over 5 years.
[02:39] <Korio> Oarnta, you have any ideas? :/
[02:39] <Mabus06> budluva what card do you have?
[02:39] <Mabus06> Korio: I need help with the options
[02:39] <ku_dude> mshade: can't you just tell me the line to use here? You don't need private...
[02:39] <Korio> Mabus06, what options?
[02:39] <Oarnta> Korio: not sure, I'm thinking about it.... Open it up in WMP and find out what version of WMV it uses
[02:39] <mshade> ku_dude: i was going to have you paste me your fstab.  ok, first of all, do you have any sata drives?
[02:39] <Mabus06> options in a burning program to make a disc bootable
[02:39] <Mabus06> do I make it closed or writable?
[02:40] <mshade> stevenj: which part are you asking about?
[02:40] <Korio> Oarnta, wich wmv version doesnt the w32codecs handle?
[02:40] <budluva> kent, no module loaded
[02:40] <ku_dude> nahh!..
[02:40] <budluva> i have a tnt2
[02:40] <mshade> stevenj: and are you experiencing problems other than the errors?
[02:40] <Oarnta> Korio: like the really REALLY new ones.
[02:40] <ku_dude> mshade: well sorry.. yes.. but the external isn't sata.
[02:40] <mshade> ku_dude: lol ok
[02:40] <Oarnta> budluva: You should be able to use the "nv" driver for that
[02:40] <mshade> ku_dude: that changes things :)
[02:40] <stevenj> mshade the _IceTrans stuff near the top and the lookup host failure on localhost    Thanks!
[02:40] <mshade> ku_dude: we need to figure out which /dev entry it uses when you plug it in.
[02:41] <ku_dude> mshade: it
[02:41] <Korio> Oarnta, hmm im on a new install
[02:41] <kent> budluva, then you need to load it.  Im not sure how the best way is to solve it, but put nvidia in /etc/modules and it will load upon boot.
[02:41] <ku_dude> it's /dev/sdb
[02:41] <_native_> kc watson: ping
[02:41] <Korio> Oarnta, wich guide did you follow when you installed the codecs and stuff?
[02:41] <mshade> stevenj: i get those errors too.
[02:41] <mshade> stevenj: it's related to /etc/hosts
[02:41] <Korio> Oarnta, im looking for the very best for my system :D
[02:41] <budluva> nvidia or nv?
[02:41] <Oarnta> Korio: guide? I just googled what package to use and did apt-get install w32codecs. mplayer seemed to work fine
[02:41] <ku_dude> mshade: I found that with gparted
[02:42] <mshade> ku_dude: ok.
[02:42] <Korio> Oarnta, really thats all you did ? :o
[02:42] <mshade> ku_dude: there's one partition on the external disk?
[02:42] <thirso> how do i logout to select another Window Manager? im trying System -> Logout but its going to the console
[02:42] <Korio> Oarnta, does it play mpeg divx and xvid too?
[02:42] <Oarnta> Korio: I don't "do" guides, I guess, and almost always get it right
[02:42] <ku_dude> mshade: yes.
[02:42] <Oarnta> Korio: Ya, all my pira- "free" movies work fine
[02:42] <stevenj> mshade, I wonder if its a problem with interfaces config by default?
[02:42] <ku_dude> fat32 is the file system.
[02:42] <SP> crimsun: 0 [I82801BAICH2   ] : ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2
[02:42] <SP>                      Intel 82801BA-ICH2 with AD1885 at 0xe800, irq 17
[02:42] <Korio> Oarnta, that means xvid and divx and stuff too?
[02:43] <Oarnta> Korio: sorry, yes
[02:43] <stevenj> mshade, or I wonder if its a problem at all...I get on the net fine
[02:43] <mshade> ku_dude: if so, add this line to /etc/fstab:  /dev/sdb1  /media/XXX auto defaults,user,umask=000 0 0
[02:43] <nelson> Hi.  Is this where I ask a FAQ?
[02:43] <Korio> Oarnta, hmm weird because in ubuntuguide they suggest you to install almost dussins of packages :o
[02:43] <thirso> !w32
[02:43] <ubotu> thirso: Syntax error in line 1
[02:43] <ku_dude> mshade: cool copy..
[02:43] <thirso> !w32codecs
[02:43] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[02:43] <crimsun> SP: you really should try Breezy again...
[02:43] <Oarnta> Korio: Thats all I had to do
[02:43] <SP> Hmm
[02:43] <thirso> check that out Korio
[02:43] <SP> k
[02:43] <mshade> ku_dude: change XXX to a directory that's actually IN /media
[02:43] <thirso> http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[02:43] <thirso> you need this
[02:43] <mshade> ku_dude: create one for the usb drive if you want.. like 'usb'
[02:44] <Korio> thirso, thanks ......
[02:44] <thirso> np
[02:44] <SP> crimsun: if I use the method at ubuntuguide.org, it hsould work, right?
[02:44] <ku_dude> mshade: the partition is sdb1. so I should use that right?
[02:44] <Korio> thirso, not that i already knew it but yea thx anyway
[02:44] <crimsun> SP: what method?
[02:44] <ubuntu> Anyone know how to long in as root with the LiveCD?
[02:44] <Oarnta> Korio: Of course, I mix my /etc/apt/sources.list with stuff from other debian based distros.... lotta stuff works - and breaks alot.
[02:44] <mshade> ku_dude: correct.  any mass storage device you connect with usb will be sdb.. first partition will be sdb1.  if you have two connected, it'll be sdc.. (the second)
[02:44] <rob^> SP, use help.ubuntu.com instead
[02:44] <mshade> ubuntu: sudo bash
[02:45] <Korio> Oarnta, lol thats bad :P
[02:45] <SP> crimsun: http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy
[02:45] <sobo> how do i change my download options?
[02:45] <Oarnta> Korio: I'm just crazy like that
[02:45] <thirso> is anyone running BitchX ?
[02:45] <ku_dude> mshade: done.
[02:45] <mshade> ku_dude: save it, unplug the usb drive, and plug it back in.
[02:45] <mshade> ku_dude: should be good to go.
[02:45] <Oarnta> Korio: Hey, if you don't feel like having root closed to you, do "sudo passwd root"
[02:45] <maddler> thirso: I used to...before discovering irssi!!!
[02:45] <moogman> Hello all! I was wondering where I can find libhowl for Breezy?
[02:46] <thirso> maddler: is there a good script for irssi ?
[02:46] <Korio> Oarnta, hey its ok i like sudo su -
[02:46] <Korio> :)
[02:46] <crimsun> moogman: you won't. It was removed because of licensing issues.
[02:46] <Korio> no need for the root password then
[02:46] <thirso> i liked it but bitchx+cyp is better
[02:46] <moogman> crimsun: Ah I see. Could you direct me to their homepage please?
[02:46] <Oarnta> Korio: I'm used to other distros, I like having a root password
[02:46] <crimsun> moogman: which/whose?
[02:46] <sobo> can anyone tell me where the download options are?
[02:47] <mshade> ku_dude: did that work?
[02:47] <ku_dude> mshade: you're da bom.. it works :)
[02:47] <moogman> crimsun: The developers of libhowl.
[02:47] <mshade> ku_dude: no, i'm not da bom.  I'm da mob.
[02:47] <moogman> gnomemeeting cvs depends on libhowl
[02:47] <stevenj> mshade, you know I wonder what # out all those IPv6 lines would do anything
[02:47] <moogman> God knows why
[02:47] <ku_dude> mshade: heheh! whateever.. you rock.
[02:47] <mshade> :)
[02:47] <Korio> is wine hq better than plain wine?
[02:47] <Oarnta> all: Does Ubuntu not have internet sources so I don't have to keep the CD around?
[02:47] <mshade> Korio: same thing
[02:48] <Korio> mshade, oh sorry i mean that... GUI wine.. that comes with xandros
[02:48] <crimsun> moogman: try a Google search
[02:48] <ku_dude> mshade: I am using FAT32.. cause I haven't still gotten rid of my windows parition..
[02:48] <SP> crimsun: http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy
[02:48] <twisted_maple> crimsun: are you around?
[02:48] <rain`> Hi, I am looking for a program to transfer files from person to person, something that is not cruddy and slow like msn....
[02:48] <SP> Thats the guide I was looking at
[02:48] <hyphenated> Oarnta: your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line right at the top referring to the CD, and then a bunch of others refering to internet sources
[02:48] <mshade> ku_dude: no worries.  keep it fat32 incase you want to cart it somewhere there is no linux box ;)
[02:48] <hyphenated> Oarnta: comment out that one line, then do sudo apt-get update
[02:48] <Oarnta> hyphenated, thanks
[02:48] <ku_dude> mshade: until linux supports NTFS fully then I will still use FAT32.. even though I can't use anything over 4GB it seems.
[02:48] <crimsun> twisted_maple: yes
[02:48] <Korio> Is crossover better than wine?
[02:48] <crimsun> (brb)
[02:48] <thirso> rain`: xchat ?
[02:48] <Korio> thats what i meant
[02:48] <mshade> ku_dude: sure you can.
[02:48] <lsald> rain`,  you ever thing about 'ftp'
[02:49] <ku_dude> mshade: sure I can what?
[02:49] <Oarnta> hyphenated, I'm doing a base install, I'm used to a netinst of debian
[02:49] <hyphenated> ku_dude: what, for partition size?
[02:49] <mshade> ku_dude: use over 4gb
[02:49] <SP> I used 8GB
[02:49] <rain`> lsald: I could use ftp, but that is way too much overkill
[02:49] <maddler> thirso: a good script for what?
[02:49] <mshade> I have a 60GB fat32 partition
[02:49] <SP> I have a 30GB windows and a 8GB ubuntu
[02:49] <moogman> crimsun: Heh, thanks.
[02:49] <Oarnta> hyphenated, Um... I only have one line in that fine, and its the cdrom line
[02:49] <maddler> thirso: http://www.irssi.org/
[02:49] <hyphenated> ku_dude: you can, just need to use -F 32 or something whem you do mkfs.vfat
[02:49] <ku_dude> mshade:  per file I mean.
[02:50] <twisted_maple> Crimsun:  Thank you for the AWE32 advise.  The BIOS had an explict lock out on the IRQ that I was using.  There was a page 2 in the bios that allowed for IRQ reserved.  I am listening to streaming audio now.  Thank you.  Your advise was 100% accurate.
[02:50] <mshade> ku_dude: ahhhh
[02:50] <mshade> ku_dude: that's different :) heh
[02:50] <|sam|> i can remove totem with no worries right? only it says it will remove ubuntu-desktop too but thats not right, right?
[02:50] <hyphenated> oh, per file :-)
[02:50] <ku_dude> mshade: hahah! sorry for the mis information.
[02:50] <ku_dude> mshade: are you got at xorg.conf?
[02:50] <mshade> ku_dude: what's your issue with xorg.conf
[02:50] <boci^> any service "configurator" for console?
[02:51] <aeon17x> !ctrlaltdelete
[02:51] <ubotu> aeon17x: Bugger all, i dunno
[02:51] <Oarnta> all: any clue what base-config crashes whenever I try to run it?
[02:51] <ku_dude> mshade: well I am using an ATI Radeon 9600 and can only get my dual-monitors to work with a BigDesktop.. I can't get to use DualHead mode.
[02:51] <aeon17x> How do you that again? That ctrl alt delete shortcut for the system monitor.
[02:51] <Oarnta> includeing the first time
[02:52] <aeon17x> Never mind, found it.
[02:52] <mshade> ku_dude: you want a separate desktop on each eh
[02:52] <ku_dude> mshade: any suggestion? I like the way windows does dual screen..window maximises only in one screen..
[02:52] <twisted_maple> Crimsun:  scroll up.
[02:52] <ku_dude> mshade: but in Linux's BigDesktop it maximizes in both screens.
[02:52] <mshade> ku_dude: are you using the 'radeon' driver or 'fglrx'
[02:52] <ku_dude> mshade: yes.
[02:53] <mshade> ku_dude: lol which one
[02:53] <ku_dude> mshade: not seperate desktop..
[02:53] <robertbb> buahaha
[02:53] <Oarnta> all: ubuntu sorta refuses to run base-config without crashing my computer, any tricks to get around that?
[02:53] <ku_dude> mshade: just don't want the program to maximize to fit both monitors.
[02:53] <thirso> maddler: like cypress for bitchx
[02:53] <mshade> ku_dude: right, i gotcha.
[02:53] <ku_dude> mshade: Am I making sense?
[02:53] <moquist> in which repository does libdvdcss live?
[02:53] <Korio> how do i untar a file with TAR?
[02:53] <mshade> ku_dude: absolutely
[02:54] <moquist> Korio: tar -x file.tar
[02:54] <cillin> tar -zxvf filename
[02:54] <Korio> thank you moquist
[02:54] <robertbb> Korio, tar -xvzf foo.tar.gz
[02:54] <ku_dude> mshade: I tried a lot of xorg.conf files on the forums.. but my xserver dies.
[02:54] <mshade> moquist: libdvdread3
[02:54] <moquist> Korio: tar -xz file.tar.gz or file.tgz
[02:54] <Oarnta> Korio tar -xf *.tar
[02:54] <moquist> Korio: ha!  I forgot -f.  It won't work like I typed it.  See cillin's post.
[02:54] <mshade> ku_dude: post your xorg.conf up to pastebin
[02:54] <mshade> !pastebin
[02:54] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:54] <Mabus06> i have a problem!!
[02:54] <robertbb> Lets see how many variants we can get.. on how to untar, so we confuse the guy..
[02:54] <crimsun> twisted_maple: excellent.
[02:55] <ku_dude> mshade: how do I do that?
[02:55] <Oarnta> moquist, lol, lets extract the file to standard output :-P
[02:55] <Mabus06> anyone here know how to update bios?
[02:55] <SP> Yeah
[02:55] <SP> Boot into windows while holding Delete
[02:55] <thirso> Mabus06: there should be a software for that
[02:55] <Korio> no work with tar :(
[02:55] <Mabus06> when I download the file from teh website, it is .002 extension
[02:55] <mshade> ku_dude: open it in an editor(like gedit) and go to that website.. copy and paste it in, it'll give you a link to post here so i can read it and edit it from the website
[02:55] <robertbb> Mabus06, That's not an Ubuntu question. And the answer is specific to your motherboard/manufacturer. Go read their website.
[02:55] <crimsun> SP: the Breezy upgrade guide in the topic should cover all the gotchas
[02:55] <scoperesolution> anyone know how to get samba server to connect to an ip instead of just a host name?
[02:55] <thirso> Mabus06: now you need the software from your mobo vendor
[02:55] <SP> crimsun: Link?
[02:56] <mshade> scoperesolution: you mean samba client?
[02:56] <crimsun> SP: /topic
[02:56] <scoperesolution> mshade yeah
[02:56] <Mabus06> but my manual says it would be a .rom extension
[02:56] <robertbb> scoperesolution, What do you mean samba _server_.. ? Surely you mean the client?
[02:56] <|bEaViS|> I have some problems with ubuntu booting, anyone free to help?
[02:56] <SP> Thanks
[02:56] <scoperesolution> yeah I ment the client
[02:56] <robertbb> Or do you mean how to change what interface/IP it listens on?
[02:56] <scoperesolution> I am a little out of it tonight
[02:56] <robertbb> ah.
[02:56] <moquist> Oarnta: nah, the command I posted would have been trying to extract the file *from* *standard input*.
[02:56] <mshade> scoperesolution: go to places: connect to network server
[02:56] <Oarnta> ROFL
[02:56] <scoperesolution> no, like i cant connect t the ip
[02:56] <thirso> Mabus06: where did u get the bios?
[02:56] <mshade> scoperesolution: service type: windows share
[02:56] <moquist> Oarnta: much less dangerous, though.  :)
[02:56] <scoperesolution> im doing everything via command line
[02:57] <mshade> scoperesolution: type in the ip address in 'server' line
[02:57] <robertbb> scoperesolution, You guru.
[02:57] <Mabus06> thirso: I downloaded the bios from the ASUS website
[02:57] <mshade> scoperesolution: you want it command line version instead?
[02:57] <Mabus06> but the file was an extension .002
[02:57] <Oarnta> moquist, ya, hell, you could acually do that without screwing yourself. just use 0> file.tar.gz
[02:57] <scoperesolution> like i do smbclient -I x.x.x.x
[02:57] <scoperesolution> and it doesnt like it
[02:57] <Mabus06> in the manual it said it would be .rom
[02:57] <ku_dude> mshade: what is the URL for pastebin?
[02:57] <|bEaViS|> I have some problems with ubuntu booting, anyone free to help?
[02:57] <mshade> ku_dude: !pastebin
[02:57] <mshade> !tell ku_dude pastebin
[02:57] <ku_dude> !pastebin
[02:57] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:57] <Korio> guys what program should i open .sh files with?
[02:57] <Oarnta> Mabus06, use a wind0z3 box, and follow the website instructions
[02:58] <Oarnta> Korio, use a command line
[02:58] <moquist> mshade: libdvdcss isn't in libdvdread3, but /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh is included and installs libdvdcss safely.
[02:58] <ku_dude> ok going there..sorry for dumbness guys..
[02:58] <Oarnta> Korio, and type in "./name.sh"
[02:58] <propagandhi> ha ha ha check this out http://www.parascope.com/mx/articles/godin.htm
[02:58] <mshade> moquist: my mistake.
[02:58] <mshade> ku_dude: we're all dumb, all the time.
[02:58] <moquist> mshade: np; you got me to run "dpkg -L", which was enough to get me there.  :)
[02:58] <Oarnta> Korio, if that doesn't work instantly, do "chmod 700 name.sh" first, then do the "./name.sh"
[02:58] <moquist> mshade: thx
[02:59] <scoperesolution> has anyone ever connected via an ip using smbclient?
[02:59] <Oarnta> scoperesolution, ya, thats the only way I do it
[02:59] <moquist> scoperesolution: yeah, I think so.
[02:59] <Korio> Oarnta, says file not found
[02:59] <mshade> scoperesolution: try this:
[02:59] <moquist> Korio: you can also do "sh blah.sh".
[02:59] <odat> anyone know how to change system defaults like email programs and stuff
[02:59] <saik0> scoperesolution have ou tried -I
[02:59] <jonny> hey
[02:59] <moquist> Korio: then you don't have to worry about the chmod command.
[02:59] <mshade> scoperesolution: mount -t smbfs X.x.x.x:/sharename /mnt/point
[02:59] <jonny> cyphase?
[02:59] <ku_dude> mshade: I think this is it: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3768
[02:59] <Oarnta> Korio, moquist is right
[02:59] <Korio> moquist, thx that works
[03:00] <scoperesolution> mshade, I am not using ubuntu
[03:00] <moquist> odat: http://ubuntuguide.org/ has info that's still helpful to change default applications
[03:00] <mshade> ku_dude: that's it.
[03:00] <jonny> I got KDE off of default (finaly)
[03:00] <mshade> scoperesolution: you don't need to be.
[03:00] <|bEaViS|> When Ubuntu tries to boot normally, it goes to a splash screen, loads up all the way and then upon fully loading, goes to a screen with a blinking "_" which locks up after about 5 seconds. Right now I am using recovery mode, thats the only way i can use ubuntu (command line only)
[03:00] <cillin> has anyone had a bad experience with the nvidia geforce 2 go card - on a dell laptop?
[03:00] <saik0> I'm trying to get a whole directory usign smbclient...get wont work and mget asks about every file mathiching the mask...which is a good 150 files
[03:00] <scoperesolution> mshade in gentoo you only get smbclient and smbmount
[03:00] <Korio> Oarnta, that sh program is an installer, and It asks me where to install it
[03:00] <scoperesolution> its not likeing the ip
[03:00] <mshade> scoperesolution: samba is samba is samba
[03:00] <mshade> scoperesolution: you have mount
[03:00] <Korio> Oarnta, wich directory should i choose?
[03:00] <mshade> scoperesolution: *trust* me.
[03:00] <jonny> can you download any linux app for ubuntu?
[03:00] <moogman> Is there a way of installing a package, ignoring dependencies?
[03:00] <crimsun> |bEaViS|: you should have an incomplete /var/log/Xorg.0.log then
[03:00] <Oarnta> Korio, under /home/what_your_name_is/pick_a_fine_name/
[03:00] <mshade> scoperesolution: mount -t smbfs x.x.x.x:/sharename /mnt/XXX
[03:01] <moquist> odat: it boils down to editing this file: /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[03:01] <crimsun> |bEaViS|: please paste that onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:01] <jonny> BRB
[03:01] <moquist> odat: there may be a "better" way to do it, but I don't know what it is.
[03:01] <Korio> Oarnta, is there no "programs" folder like windows?
[03:01] <Oarnta> Korio, When I say your name, I mean your user name
[03:01] <mshade> ku_dude: lookin at it now
[03:01] <Oarnta> Korio, no, there isn't
[03:01] <scoperesolution> mshade that doesnt work
[03:01] <|bEaViS|> Uhh ok, can i do that at command line
[03:01] <ku_dude> mshade: cool..
[03:01] <Korio> Oarnta, what about /opt/program name
[03:01] <Korio> ?
[03:01] <ku_dude> mshade: that was configured with fglrxconfig
[03:02] <Oarnta> Korio, I've never installed there, I always use /home/horza/prog_nam/
[03:02] <scoperesolution> oh well
[03:02] <_jason> crimsun:  is there anyway for me to compile vlc so that it won't say: [00000305]  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'
[03:02] <|bEaViS|> How do I do that from the command line?
[03:02] <Korio> Oarnta, if you say so i'll do it =)
[03:02] <Korio> Oarnta, can i remove this program with apt-get later?
[03:02] <Oarnta> Korio, No, sadly
[03:03] <Korio> Oarnta, how do i remove it then? :O
[03:03] <Oarnta> Korio, You can just delete that directory tho, thats about the same in this case
[03:03] <|bEaViS|> hey crimsun
[03:03] <scoperesolution> mshade thanks anyways
[03:03] <crimsun> _jason: you need to install libxvidcore4-dev from multiverse and edit the FFMEG configure line that I use in debian/rules
[03:03] <Oarnta> Korio, "rm -R name_of_dir"
[03:03] <_jason> crimsun:  k thanks
[03:03] <moquist> bah!  Where can I edit Firefox plugin settings?  I want to totally ditch totem because it never does what I want, and I want to use mplayer instead.  I have mozilla-mplayer installed, but FF just really wants to use totem...
[03:03] <Korio> Oarnta, does that remove everything of the program?
[03:03] <SP> Jesus cyphase, nice
[03:03] <SP> Lucky
[03:03] <Mabus06> I'm starting to question why linux is praised for its reliability.
[03:03] <Oarnta> Korio, what program is it?
[03:03] <dooglus> |bEaViS|: there's a script on the pastebin site which you can use to paste to it from the command line
[03:04] <cyphase> i was hoping for a 500GB :)
[03:04] <cyphase> but this'll do
[03:04] <Mabus06> It has been nothing but crap for me.
[03:04] <SP> Haha
[03:04] <SP> :P
[03:04] <Oarnta> Mabus06, what distros have you used?
[03:04] <crimsun> |bEaViS|: wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[03:04] <cyphase> SP, i have to many hard drives..
[03:04] <crimsun> |bEaViS|: then read the directions
[03:04] <Korio> Oarnta, its wine crossover
[03:04] <Mabus06> ubuntu I used... fedora core I failed with
[03:04] <SP> How many?
[03:04] <|bEaViS|> I dont  know how to get there
[03:04] <dooglus> |bEaViS|: wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[03:04] <Mabus06> nothing can successfully install with my geforce
[03:04] <Mabus06> except windows
[03:04] <|bEaViS|> thank you
[03:04] <Oarnta> Korio, in that directory, there should be a file called "uninstall.sh" or something similar.
[03:04] <Mabus06> so windows wins the compatibillity challenge
[03:05] <Korio> Oarnta, cool thanks
[03:05] <cyphase> 4 for my main computer, not including the 160GB
[03:05] <|bEaViS|> One last thing, do i have to close this for me to be able to enter that
[03:05] <dooglus> |bEaViS|: then "chmod 755 pastebin"
[03:05] <cyphase> and i've been having hard drive problems lately..
[03:05] <dooglus> |bEaViS|: then cat file | ./pastebin to paste the contents of file
[03:05] <cyphase> both the drives on my server went bad (i was able to recover the data)
[03:06] <Oarnta> Korio, if there isn't, you should be able to just delete it for the most part.
[03:06] <cyphase> then my main drive on my main machine went funny
[03:06] <SP> Sucks..
[03:06] <jonny> hey, cyphase
[03:06] <|bEaViS|> Dooglus: can i get a new command line without exiting the IRC?
[03:06] <cyphase> but now..
[03:06] <dooglus> |bEaViS|: does alt-f2 give you a new login prompt?  if so, alt-f1 to get back here
[03:06] <|bEaViS|> ok
[03:06] <Pinturicchio> hello, is there a french channel about ubuntu ?
[03:06] <dooglus> !fr
[03:06] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:06] <Pinturicchio> merci
[03:06] <cyphase> i have a new, fresh, 2 minutes out of the wrapper drive..
[03:06] <cyphase> :)
[03:06] <|bEaViS|> No it doesn't
[03:06] <Pinturicchio> thx
[03:06] <SP> Nicee
[03:06] <cyphase> hey jonny
[03:06] <vbgunz> anyone here having a 20 second delay trying to open up a Windows share? Is this normal?
[03:06] <Oarnta> |bEaViS|, you might want to try ctrl-alt-f8
[03:07] <|bEaViS|> Nope
[03:07] <dooglus> |bEaViS|: hold the left alt key and hit the f2 function key.  what happens?
[03:07] <cyphase> which is about to be formatted
[03:07] <ku_dude> mshade: I think I am wrong.. Let me paste something else..sorry for the wrong info. I thought I had linked my xorg.conf file to this one. but I broked the link. one sec..
[03:07] <|bEaViS|> Goes to a blinking _
[03:07] <dooglus> Oarnta: I think he's in a vc already
[03:07] <Oarnta> dooglus, vc?
[03:07] <moquist> nobody knows how I can tell FF to ditch totem?
[03:07] <Mabus06> I'm going to have a heart attack I'm so frsutrated.
[03:07] <dooglus> |bEaViS|: ok - not good.  what about console z?  use 'fg' to resume
[03:07] <mshade> ku_dude: i was goingto say.. this doesn't look fglrxconfigured
[03:07] <tritium> vc = virtual console, Oarnta
[03:08] <dooglus> |bEaViS|: sorry.  CONTROL z.  I was thinking about Oarnta's question.
[03:08] <vbgunz> Please advise: Is it normal to go through a 20 second delay opening up a Windows share?
[03:08] <moquist> Mabus06: I have dual GeForce cards.  What's your trouble?
[03:08] <Oarnta> tritium, got it, thanks
[03:08] <dooglus> Oarnta: vc is virtual console
[03:08] <ku_dude> mshade: use this one: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3769
[03:08] <mark7> Hello. Anyone have ideas on connecting Breezy to the internet via a Linksys Wireless-G USB Network Adaptor?
[03:08] <|bEaViS|> that works
[03:08] <Mabus06> moquist: #helpme please
[03:08] <ku_dude> mshade: sorry again man. poor me.. have a headache too.. should go home.
[03:08] <Oarnta> dooglus, what is virt con exactly?
[03:08] <moquist> vbgunz: I have had all kinds of weird delays when authenticating to Windoze boxen.  I wouldn't consider 20 seconds too weird...
[03:09] <mshade> ku_dude: change screen overlap to 0
[03:09] <dooglus> |bEaViS|: you can 'control-z' to temporarily stop a job, type 'jobs' to see a list of jobs.  they'll have numbers by them.  type 'fg %2' to resume job 2
[03:09] <vbgunz> moquist: not wierd *but* normal is it?
[03:09] <cyphase> if i have an 80GB root drive and a 160GB /home drive, they should both be formatted as reiserfs, right?
[03:09] <ksmurf> can you tunnel vncveiwer through an ssh connection?
[03:09] <dooglus> Oarnta: from GNOME, press control-alt-f1 and you'll see.
[03:09] <HrdwrBoB> cyphase: it's up to you
[03:09] <mshade> ku_dude: give that a shot :)
[03:09] <tritium> cyphase, you don't have to use reiserfs.
[03:09] <HrdwrBoB> cyphase: ext3 is used more widely
[03:09] <dooglus> Oarnta: use alt-f7 to get back to gnome after
[03:09] <Oarnta> dooglus, I know what that is
[03:09] <cyphase> i know i don't have to :)
[03:09] <Oarnta> dooglus, never heard it called that
[03:09] <Oarnta> dooglus, you're talking abotu tty1, and tty7
[03:09] <cyphase> i meant, is there a "better" way to do it
[03:10] <moquist> vbgunz: Yeah, what I said was confusing.  I meant that I wouldn't fret about a 20 second delay, unless it's going to cause problems for some other reason.  At least it worked, and it wasn't a multi-minute delay.
[03:10] <Oarnta> about*
[03:10] <budluva> glxinfo and glxgears gives me seg faults, i have nvidia listed in lsmod, but i cant seem to find anything for glx? should i add glx to /etc/modules ???
[03:10] <tritium> cyphase, better way to do what?
[03:10] <dooglus> Oarnta: those alt-f1, alt-f2, etc. things are virtual consoles, aren't they?
[03:10] <cyphase> format the drives
[03:10] <vbgunz> moquist: ok
[03:10] <ku_dude> mshade: ok trying that now.. gonna kill X.. so brb..
[03:10] <jonny> I got KDE and GNOME worked out
[03:10] <mshade> ku_dude: yup
[03:10] <dooglus> Oarnta: or is it 'virtual terminal'?  I'm not sure
[03:10] <cyphase> i'm just making sure really..
[03:10] <mshade> cyphase: shouldn't be an issue
[03:10] <Oarnta> dooglus, I'm not sure
[03:10] <cyphase> i've had no problem with reiserfs in the past
[03:10] <tritium> it's console, dooglus, Oarnta
[03:10] <arcanistherogue> what is the command to make a zip archive out of a folder?
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> dooglus: it is 'the console' and each one is a vertual terminal
[03:11] <Oarnta> tritium, thanks, sorry about the confusion dooglus
[03:11] <Merturk_NB> is there any other resource I can use to help me with my sound problem?
[03:11] <Oarnta> HrdwrBoB, tritium, dooglus can we pick one? :-P
[03:11] <vbgunz> dooglus: I have a question maybe you can answer... If I Ctrl+Alt+F7 I go to my first desktop *but* Ctrl+Alt+F8 does nothing and Ctrl+Alt+F9 seems to bring me to desktop 3... other than that Where can I find out more about the Ctrl+Alt+F* shortcuts?
[03:11] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: what sound issue?
[03:11] <tritium> Oarnta, pick one what?
[03:11] <Merturk_NB> crimsun no sound
[03:11] <dooglus> HrdwrBoB: each of them gets the kernel log messages - so they all act like the console
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> dooglus: no
[03:11] <tritium> nomenclature?
[03:12] <chicano-> anybody know how to configure fluxbox?
[03:12] <HrdwrBoB> dooglus: the 'console' gets the console
[03:12] <Oarnta> tritium, ya, lol
[03:12] <chicano-> on ubuntu
[03:12] <HrdwrBoB> it just goes to the screen
[03:12] <Merturk_NB> Compaq Prosignia 120, ESS-1869 chipset
[03:12] <mshade> chicano-: sure.
[03:12] <tritium> :)
[03:12] <Merturk_NB> supposed to be plug and play compatible
[03:12] <mshade> chicano-: from a terminal -- cd ~/.fluxbox
[03:12] <HrdwrBoB> dooglus: the console can use any VT
[03:12] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: it ain't
[03:12] <mshade> chicano-: and start editing thefiles
[03:12] <dooglus> according to googlefight you're right Bob: http://googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=%22virtual+console%22&word2=%22virtual+terminal%22
[03:12] <Merturk_NB> but, no terminal commands are working
[03:12] <Oarnta> HrdwrBoB, tritium dooglus, its those tty* things now
[03:12] <chicano-> mshade, from the root dir or my logins?
[03:12] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, any other resources I can look at?
[03:13] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, anything else I can do?
[03:13] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: install isapnptools and give me the output of pnpdump (use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl)
[03:13] <dooglus> vbgunz: look at /etc/inittab.  that'll show it starting 6 virtual TERMINALS (ok, bob?)
[03:13] <mshade> Merturk_NB: is it 1869 or 1969 ?
[03:13] <HrdwrBoB> dooglus: :)
[03:13] <matthew_w> How in the name of the Lord do I make a boot floppy in Ubuntu?
[03:13] <Merturk_NB> 1869
[03:13] <sobo> what is a "Broken" filter?
[03:13] <jonny> can you download any linux software on ubuntu
[03:13] <jonny> ?
[03:13] <arcanistherogue> jonny, use synaptic ;)
[03:13] <mshade> chicano-: doesnt' matter.
[03:13] <HrdwrBoB> matthew_w: you can't, essentially
[03:13] <|bEaViS|> It was posted, the part agter the / is 3771
[03:13] <tritium> Oarnta, shall we call them teletubbies?
[03:13] <mshade> chicano-: it's in /home/username/.fluxbox
[03:13] <HrdwrBoB> matthew_w: why do you want a floppy
[03:13] <fadumpt> does anyone know how to clean up sleeping processes that are just filling up resources?
[03:13] <|bEaViS|> *after
[03:13] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, working on it
[03:13] <vbgunz> dooglus: I know about F1 through F6 for VTs... I mean finding out about F7 through F12... I apologize for not being clear
[03:13] <chicano-> k
[03:13] <arcanistherogue> jonny, or you can use .deb files or compile programs from source
[03:13] <mshade> Merturk_NB: is it an isa card?
[03:13] <chicano-> thanks alot mshade
[03:13] <chicano-> :)
[03:13] <fadumpt> or know of a good place to point me?
[03:13] <dooglus> vbgunz: I think GNOME runs on 7 because that's the next available one.  if you lock the screen and click 'new user' or run "new login" from the menu, that'll be ctl-alt-f8, and so on.
[03:13] <mshade> :)
[03:13] <crimsun> mshade: yes
[03:13] <Oarnta> tritium, Yes! And they shall be our friends, and we shall set them on fire
[03:13] <arcanistherogue> what is the command to make a zip archive out of a folder?
[03:13] <jonny> arcanistherogue: how
[03:13] <tritium> oh my
[03:14] <cyphase> so should i set my drive as the home directory during installation?
[03:14] <jonny> is it hard
[03:14] <Merturk_NB> mshade, don't know
[03:14] <arcanistherogue> jonny, the .deb files or the synaptic?
[03:14] <dooglus> vbgunz: ctl-alt-f7 is the first X session, c-a-f8 is the next, and so on
[03:14] <cyphase> is there any risk at all that i could corrupt the data?
[03:14] <matthew_w> HrdwrBoB; Because the boxen I'm putting it onto has no cd drive, and can't support one, mini itx inside of a large beer can, long story - it HAS to be floppy compatible.
[03:14] <jonny> not synaptic,lol, .deb, arcanistherogue
[03:14] <fadumpt> anyone? :-/
[03:14] <|bEaViS|> Dooglus: I posted the File
[03:14] <matthew_w> All of the other ones, Red Hat, Mandrake, etc. etc. etc. had boot floppies, is there no way?
[03:14] <mattpj1> i need help i just installed ubuntu and im trying to do an apt-get i get permission denined so whats the su - root password
[03:14] <dooglus> vbgunz: usually I guess people only use one X session at a time, but using 'gdmflexserver' or whatever it's called (I'm on a Windows box, for shame) you can make new X sessionsd
[03:14] <|bEaViS|> Dooglus: It was posted, the part agter the / is 3771
[03:15] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, can I get more details on the request you made?
[03:15] <arcanistherogue> jonny, oh ok.  Download a .deb file, then run the following command "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[03:15] <vbgunz> dooglus: oh... I remember reading something like that... It's just wierd the info on screen F8... it looks like the login scrolling text stopped on that screen... and F9 brings me to desktop F7... Was just curious
[03:15] <HrdwrBoB> matthew_w: stick a CDROM on it outside the box just to install
[03:15] <cyphase> mattpj1, use sudo
[03:15] <jonny> is that it?
[03:15] <HrdwrBoB> alternatively, you can setup netboot
[03:15] <fadumpt> sudo apt-get install for the person with the issue of permission denied
[03:15] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: sudo aptitude install isapnptools
[03:15] <vbgunz> dooglus: that sounds cool
[03:15] <vbgunz> dooglus: I should look into that
[03:15] <Oarnta> matthew_w, debian has one I know, try using that one and altering the /etc/apt/sources.list to fit.
[03:15] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, perhaps through pm, it's hard to keep up in the main channel
[03:15] <arcanistherogue> jonny, then it installs.  if there are multiple dependencies then keep lsitng file names, but thats it :D
[03:15] <matthew_w> Thanks.
[03:15] <fadumpt> mattpj1, sudo apt-get install "app"
[03:15] <dooglus> vbgunz: type gdmflex and hit tab in a terminal.  then hit return
[03:15] <mattpj1> thanks you
[03:16] <pierre> !win32codecs
[03:16] <ubotu> pierre: Are you on ritalin?
[03:16] <dooglus> vbgunz: you'll get a new login screen.  ctl-alt-f7 to get back here
[03:16] <vbgunz> ok
[03:16] <vbgunz> let me try :P
[03:16] <HrdwrBoB> !codecs
[03:16] <ubotu> [codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:16] <mshade> !win32codecs
[03:16] <chemisus> !java
[03:16] <Korio> !w32codecs
[03:16] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[03:16] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[03:16] <mattpj1> this distro is a little different from normal debian i noticed
[03:16] <mattias> hello !
[03:16] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: pm tends to be problematic for me due to all the switching, but sure
[03:16] <Korio> !win32codecs
[03:16] <|bEaViS|> Dooglus: I posted the File
[03:16] <ubotu> Korio: What?
[03:16] <tritium> mattpj1, not that different.  What's the issue?
[03:16] <fadumpt> mattpj1, you can also do sudo passwd to change the root password
[03:16] <HrdwrBoB> Korio: enough!
[03:16] <Korio> argh
[03:17] <jonny> thank you, but can you point me to a website of only .deb files, arcanistherogue?
[03:17] <mattpj1> tritium no issue anymore thanks tho
[03:17] <|bEaViS|> Dooglus: the part after the / in the pastebin URL is 3771
[03:17] <tritium> ok
[03:17] <fadumpt> but ubuntu doesn't usually make use of the root password all that much
[03:17] <dooglus> |bEaViS|: do you have any idea how hard it is to type your name in the dark on a czech keyboard?
[03:17] <Korio> i just want a link to w32codecs for breezy '.'
[03:17] <fadumpt> as far as GUI stuff goes
[03:17] <dooglus> |bEaViS|: I see your paste.  but I only just got here.  what's the problem?
[03:17] <|bEaViS|> just say beavis, nickserv didnt like it
[03:17] <mattpj1> fadumpt thanks a lot
[03:17] <|bEaViS|> Sorry about that
[03:17] <fadumpt> no problem
[03:17] <Korio> !w32codecs
[03:17] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[03:17] <|bEaViS|> My problem was
[03:17] <arcanistherogue> jonny, eh.... I'm not sure of a huge list, but you can find many off www.freshmeat.net or www.sourceforge.net
[03:18] <ku_dude> mshade: you there?
[03:18] <|bEaViS|> When Ubuntu tries to boot normally, it goes to a splash screen, loads up all the way and then upon fully loading, goes to a screen with a blinking "_" which locks up after about 5 seconds. Right now I am using recovery mode, thats the only way i can use ubuntu (command line only)
[03:18] <mattpj1> very helpful i noticed in a short time thanks all
[03:18] <mshade> ku_dude: yup
[03:18] <dducko> type the |bE and hit tab if your using xchat I know that works
[03:18] <ku_dude> mshade: did you mean to change this line: Option "ScreenOverlap"              "1280"  to  "0"??
[03:18] <crimsun> |bEaViS|: did you post /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[03:18] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, install didn't work
[03:18] <mshade> ku_dude: yup
[03:18] <fadumpt> mattpj1, I just recently ran into that issue
[03:18] <ku_dude> mshade: it didn't work.. same behaviour.
[03:18] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, package not found
[03:18] <dducko> Whats your video card |bEaViS|
[03:18] <|bEaViS|> crimsun: yes
[03:18] <mshade> ku_dude: i take it it didn't work
[03:18] <mshade> ku_dude: hmm
[03:18] <jonny> arcanistherogue thank you so much
[03:18] <crimsun> |bEaViS|: sec
[03:18] <ku_dude> mshade: how about this line: Option "DesktopSetup"               "horizontal,reverse"
[03:18] <arcanistherogue> jonny,  any time :D
[03:19] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I don't know how to pm in x-chat . . . :-/
[03:19] <mshade> ku_dude: that's what i'm lookin at now
[03:19] <|bEaViS|> Hang on, i'll make my name easier to type
[03:19] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: it's in universe
[03:19] <mshade> ku_dude: try taking out the ,reverse
[03:19] <mshade> ku_dude: give that a shot.
[03:21] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, universe?
[03:21] <Oarnta> where is a http or ftp package mirror of Badger?
[03:21] <crimsun> !tell Merturk_NB about repos
[03:21] <crimsun> SP: how's the install progressing?
[03:21] <SP> 73%
[03:21] <crimsun> SP: ok
[03:21] <dducko> Oarnta, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/
[03:21] <crimsun> |Beavis|: which post is it?
[03:22] <|Beavis|> 3771
[03:22] <jonny> does amyone know haw to create a new network connection in breezy?
[03:22] <intelikey> command to fix broken deps ?   or system wide cleanup of broken deps ?
[03:22] <propagandhi> jonny: whats the issue
[03:23] <fadumpt> jonny, system>administration>network settings
[03:23] <aeon17x> !planetpenguinracer
[03:23] <ubotu> aeon17x: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:23] <fadumpt> will get you to the gui editor for it
[03:23] <Korio> is there a way to be in multiple channels and servers in IRSSI?
[03:23] <crimsun> |Beavis|: looks like it's freezing while trying to retrieve pci card information
[03:23] <crimsun> Korio: yes
[03:23] <tritium> Korio, definitely
[03:23] <jonny> fadumpt: after that?
[03:23] <rain`> Ok here is the deal, I am trying to get a 500+mb file from someone, they dont have a website, and I dont have a website with enough space, msn/yahoo/aim/irc doesnt work, and I cant host a ftp/http server that they can get to, how can they transfer the file?
[03:23] <aeon17x> !tuxracer
[03:23] <ubotu> aeon17x: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:23] <ku_dude> mshade: didn't work.. hahha infact it reversed it.. :) don't know why someone would use that mode.
[03:23] <|Beavis|> Any idea on how to fix that?
[03:23] <Korio> crimsun: how i checked out the faq at the site but nothing
[03:23] <jonny> propagandhi: I need a new connection
[03:23] <fadumpt> jonny, after that...what's your issue?
[03:23] <vbgunz> dooglus: whats the command again? I did but all F123456789* blanked out after a few switches back and fourth... I thought it blew out my graphics card
[03:23] <fadumpt> connection to what?
[03:23] <fadumpt> from what?
[03:23] <jonny> it doesnt say add anywhere
[03:23] <propagandhi> rain': both linux boxes?
[03:24] <vbgunz> dooglus: I had to do a hard boot
[03:24] <crimsun> |Beavis|: what pci cards are in the machine?
[03:24] <fadumpt> the interface goes off the cards you have installed
[03:24] <fadumpt> so if you don't have a network card, you can't add a connection there
[03:24] <fadumpt> or am i confused?
[03:24] <moquist> rain`: scp from one box to the other, if they're both linux
[03:24] <intelikey> rain` ssh  telnet  xchat/dcc  ....
[03:24] <mshade> ku_dude: check out this post: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=376177
[03:24] <Xeromem> Ok guys: i've got a problem here
[03:24] <Xeromem> what i have: 2 PC's
[03:24] <|Beavis|> Modem, Ethernet card, ATI Radeon 9200SE
[03:24] <Xeromem> 1 PC with 2 eth-cards (ubuntu)
[03:25] <Xeromem> and 1 PC with 1 eth-card (winxp)
[03:25] <Xeromem> internet comes directly to pc with linux on it
[03:25] <vbgunz> I have it
[03:25] <crimsun> |Beavis|: hmm, interesting. Your onboard video was the one that was probed.
[03:25] <jonny> fadumpt: any suggestions?
[03:25] <fadumpt> Xeromem, you want to set up port forwarding to the windows box?
[03:25] <Xeromem> pc1 and pc2 are directly connected
[03:25] <crimsun> |Beavis|: please disable it in BIOS.
[03:25] <|Beavis|> I dont think I can
[03:25] <fadumpt> jonny, what are you connecting? a nic?
[03:25] <Xeromem> problem is, pc2 can't acces internet
[03:25] <crimsun> |Beavis|: you should be able to
[03:26] <|Beavis|> Hmm alright
[03:26] <|Beavis|> I'll go try
[03:26] <fadumpt> you can't just connect them Xeromem
[03:26] <thesilentkiller> Xeromem: "directly connected"?
[03:26] <|Beavis|> Thanks in advance
[03:26] <Xeromem> yep
[03:26] <fadumpt> you have to actually set the linux computer up as a router
[03:26] <mshade> Xeromem: with a crossover? or regular ethernet cable?
[03:26] <Xeromem> crossed cable between pc1 and pc2
[03:26] <budluva_> anyone know why i get a seg fault with mplayer when trying to play a video? i have w32codecs installed and all that good stuff, mplayer, totem, xine, all seg fault
[03:26] <propagandhi> Xeromem: PC2 is on the same network IP range (ie 192.168.x.x) and the linux box is set as its gateway?
[03:26] <chemisus> !repo
[03:26] <ubotu> chemisus: Syntax error in line 1
[03:26] <jonny> sorry, im new , switching from windows, i dont know what that means, fadumpt
[03:26] <Xeromem> the connections are good, because they worked with winxp
[03:26] <chemisus> !repos
[03:26] <fadumpt> network interface card
[03:26] <jonny> I know im using ethernet
[03:26] <fadumpt> ethernet adapter
[03:27] <fadumpt> you should have a card showing up in connections tab
[03:27] <fadumpt> saying ethernet connection
[03:27] <Xeromem> linuxbox -> 192.168.0.1 and windows -> 192.168.0.2
[03:27] <intelikey> yes crossover cable is very good connection......
[03:27] <fadumpt> Xeromem, and the windows pc has dns and gateway set for the linux box right?
[03:27] <Xeromem> i installed firestarter and shared internet but seems like it doesn't work for me :(
[03:27] <propagandhi> Xeromem: and the windows box has 192.168.0.2 as its gateway?
[03:27] <mshade> Xeromem: what's the gateway and dns on windows set to
[03:27] <propagandhi> .1 I meant
[03:27] <Xeromem> gateway??
[03:27] <fadumpt> yeah
[03:28] <fadumpt> you have to statically set that in your XP box to match the linux box
[03:28] <Xeromem> gateways are 255.255.255 or someting, on both machines
[03:28] <D3s7roySBC> how long does it take normally to recive the Ubuntu OS disks?
[03:28] <fadumpt> no, 255 is the subnet Xeromem
[03:28] <propagandhi> Xeromem: thats the problem
[03:28] <mshade> Xeromem: 192.168.0.1 should be the gateway on the XP machine
[03:28] <fadumpt> gateway should be 192.168.0.1 (if that's what your linux computer is)
[03:28] <mshade> Xeromem: and you'll also have to set the DNS servers manually.
[03:28] <fadumpt> and the DNS should be set to that as well on the XP machine
[03:28] <Xeromem> aah, yes, that is 192.168.0.1
[03:29] <propagandhi> Xeromem:and the XP box can ping the linux box etc?
[03:29] <Xeromem> what should be filled in @ DNS ?
[03:29] <thesilentkiller> u know what makes linux communities kick ass? and especially Ubuntu? this sort of 24 hour support that u dont get with Windows
[03:29] <mshade> Xeromem: your dsn servers.
[03:29] <fadumpt> yoour linux ip Xeromem
[03:29] <fadumpt> or whatever your ISP gives the linux box
[03:29] <fadumpt> if you know that
[03:29] <vinux> Anybody know the easiest way to install mplayer on breezy?
[03:29] <Xeromem> oups, got 2 different answers :)
[03:29] <mshade> Xeromem: check /etc/resolv.conf
[03:29] <fadumpt> vinux, follow the howto on mplayer's site
[03:29] <thesilentkiller> i have a network issue. i come. three people are pouncing on each other to help him out. how can people crib that open source doesnt have support?
[03:29] <Xeromem> ok
[03:29] <fadumpt> it worked great for me
[03:29] <crimsun> vinux: enable multiverse and universe, then install the appropriate mplayer package for your $ARCH
[03:30] <vinux> crimsun, cool thanks
[03:30] <mshade> Xeromem: you want to put whatever is in /etc/resolv.conf as your DNS servers in winXP
[03:30] <ku_dude> mshade: didn't work either.. same as my file with reverse taken out
[03:30] <fadumpt> thesilentkiller, I get more help in the linux world then i ever did in the windows world
[03:30] <tritium> fadumpt, there are ubuntu packages you could have usd
[03:30] <Xeromem> search telenet.be
[03:30] <Xeromem> nameserver 195.130.131.9
[03:30] <Xeromem> nameserver 195.130.130.4
[03:30] <D3s7roySBC> did any one here order the CD's? if so how long do they normally take
[03:30] <fadumpt> tritium: i didn't know at the time
[03:30] <propagandhi> Xeromem: the linux box works fine on the net right?
[03:30] <mshade> ku_dude: try fglrxconfig again  and pay reeeaal close attention to the prompts.  i think there's something about dual screen configuration in there
[03:30] <Xeromem> this is mu resolv.conf
[03:30] <mshade> Xeromem: the IP addresses are all you need.  you don't need telenet.be
[03:31] <Xeromem> yup, i'm using the linux box right now !
[03:31] <aeon17x> D3s7roySBC: I got my CDs after 6 weeks, I think.
[03:31] <tritium> fadumpt, well now you know, and knowing is half the battle ;)
[03:31] <thesilentkiller> fadumpt: yeah..thats what bothers me. i am kinda realizing that what is truth to you at point blank range, is not always what other people see. my manager says, "oh, but linux doesnt have support that u can rely on". my foot
[03:31] <ku_dude> mshade: I did it so many times..
[03:31] <pupil> What other webservers for linux are ther other than apache?
[03:31] <mshade> ku_dude: i'm stumped on this one :) ive never run a dual head config really, except for using it cloned with TV-Out
[03:31] <jonny> does amyone know a good .deb game?
[03:31] <mshade> pupil: zeus is a popular one
[03:31] <fadumpt> with windows issues i'm stuck searching the internet and almost never find the right answer to my problem
[03:31] <fadumpt> but with linux I can usually hope into a chatroom or website and figure it out
[03:31] <propagandhi> Xeromem: so if you can ping the linux box from the windows box, and you have the linux box as your gateway, and u have DNS servers etc, have you tried turning off the firewall in the linux box
[03:32] <ku_dude> mshade: i'll rest it for now..will play with it some more time another day.. my headache is increasing.. :)
[03:32] <pupil> mshade, is it any good?
[03:32] <ku_dude> thanks anyways for your help..
[03:32] <ku_dude> mshade: have a great weakend.
[03:32] <fadumpt> except for today :) i came in with a question and ended up helping with network issues :)
[03:32] <mshade> pupil: never used it.
[03:32] <Xeromem> ow, firewall (firestarter) is running
[03:32] <mshade> pupil: some swear by it.
[03:32] <propagandhi> Xeromem: try stopping it
[03:32] <mshade> pupil: there are others.  check sourceforge and freshmeat
[03:32] <Xeromem> ok
[03:32] <thesilentkiller> fadumpt: Ubuntu is the first distro i have tried, and i fell it love with it, one main reason being the community. its amazing. 24 x 7, there are good people out here helping others out. just awesome.
[03:32] <pupil> mshade, what do you use?
[03:32] <mshade> pupil: apache 1.3
[03:32] <propagandhi> that way you'll know if the firewall needs more work
[03:32] <thesilentkiller> fadumpt: yeah, look at the brighter side. you are serving the community ;)
[03:32] <fadumpt> Xeromem, yeah, make sure the firewall allows the traffic
[03:32] <pupil> apache 1.3 won't die i guess
[03:33] <mshade> pupil: why would you want it to ;)
[03:33] <Xeromem> but i already allowed all connections from 192.168.0.2
[03:33] <jonny> any good .deb games?
[03:33] <fadumpt> thesilentkiller, yeah it's good enough to know that I can try to help
[03:33] <mshade> Xeromem: kill the firewall first.
[03:33] <mshade> Xeromem: eliminate the possibility.
[03:33] <propagandhi> Xeromem: just try with it off
[03:33] <Xeromem> ok :)
[03:33] <will__> hey guys i have breezy and alsa all set up right and xmms can play mp3s but i want to play mp3s in rhythmnbox but it wont play sound.  rb will load them and look like it is playing them but no sound will come out of my speakers oh god whats happening
[03:33] <pupil> mshade, ever use apache ant?
[03:33] <propagandhi> trial and error
[03:33] <crimsun> will__: did you install gstreamer0.8-mad?
[03:33] <mshade> Xeromem: once the connection is working, you can enable the firewall and troubleshoot it.  but you want as simple a setup as possible to start with.
[03:33] <mshade> pupil: nope
[03:34] <TotalNewbie> Hi, I need a help with winmodem. It's possible?
[03:34] <thesilentkiller> pupil: whats with ant?
[03:34] <dooglus> jonny: did you try "fillets-ng"?
[03:34] <propagandhi> TotalNewbie: good luck
[03:34] <Xeromem> i can ping windows
[03:34] <will__> crimsun: yeah
[03:34] <TotalNewbie> hauahuha
[03:34] <TotalNewbie> Thanks
[03:34] <TotalNewbie> I don't have choice...
[03:34] <crimsun> will__: can you play mp3s with gst-launch-0.8?
[03:34] <propagandhi> Xeromem: can the xp box ping the linux box
[03:35] <will__> ERROR: pipeline could not be constructed: empty pipeline not allowed.
[03:35] <fadumpt> take down any firewall on the windows computer as well
[03:35] <will__> thats what it says when i just type in gst-launch-0.8 in the console
[03:35] <will__> i suppose i might need to specify a file
[03:35] <jonny> dooglus is that a game?
[03:35] <barosl> can linux play ape file?
[03:35] <dooglus> jonny: it's a puzzle game, yes
[03:35] <crimsun> will__: gst-launch-0.8 filesrc location="some.mp3" ! spider ! alsasink
[03:35] <Xeromem> i think i can't acces xp box right now, it's in my friends room and its locked now
[03:35] <jonny> ill google it
[03:36] <dooglus> jonny: not sure about the exact name, but a search for 'fillet' will surely find it in synaptic.  it's in universe.
[03:36] <Xeromem> im a student
[03:36] <jonny> ok
[03:36] <TotalNewbie> I buy a LG modem, SmartLink, model LM-I56P. It call, but don't connect!! Somebody can explain?
[03:36] <fadumpt> Xeromem, that's the first step then, get access to it and check the settings and firewall status
[03:36] <fadumpt> then try again
[03:36] <Xeromem> ok
[03:36] <propagandhi> Xeromem: that makes thing sdifficult doesnt it
[03:36] <dooglus> jonny: the web page is http://fillets.sourceforge.net/ but you should get it using synaptic
[03:36] <jonny> does synaptic have pretty much everything you need to download?
[03:36] <Xeromem> yeah :)
[03:36] <propagandhi> does it have remote desktop allowed or anything
[03:37] <Korio> how can i run multiple channels and servers in a single window in irssi?
[03:37] <fadumpt> jonny, did you figure your thing out?
[03:37] <will__> crimsun: it says RUNNING pipeline... but i hear nothing
[03:37] <|Beavis|> crimsun: It can't be disabled
[03:37] <dooglus> jonny: it has almost everything.  it doesn't have the very newest versions of everything though, and it's missing some stuff
[03:37] <jonny> nope, ill chat with you in the other window, if you want
[03:37] <fadumpt> okay
[03:37] <|Beavis|> I looked up and down through the BIOS
[03:37] <fadumpt> I'll see what I can do
[03:37] <fadumpt> I just think i'm understanding you right off
[03:37] <fr33mind> I've done my first hello-world with glade.  Is there an IDE in C/C++ ?
[03:37] <fadumpt> not understanding*
[03:38] <vinux> intelikey, hehe
[03:38] <jonny> so, all i need to do is make a new connection, fadumt
[03:38] <|Beavis|> Crimsun: is there a way we can disable the Scan for that "Pci" card?
[03:38] <TotalNewbie> I buy a LG modem, SmartLink, model LM-I56P. Call but don't connect!! I need a help here...
[03:39] <crimsun> |Beavis|: please test by removing the Radeon
[03:39] <TotalNewbie> I search in Google and in Ubuntu site and nothing.
[03:39] <|Beavis|> Ok
[03:39] <Xeromem> global question -> does everyone have the same problem: XMMS plays mp3's very good, but in totem and all other players you can't seek fluently
[03:39] <will__> damn you sin cursed world!
[03:39] <will__> yeah kind of xeromem
[03:39] <will__> xmms plays mp3s flawlessly but nothing else works at all
[03:39] <crimsun> Xeromem: is it reproducible with totem-xine installed?
[03:39] <dooglus> Xeromem: try beep-media-player.  that seeks well
[03:39] <propagandhi> TotalNewbie: you should have bought a hardware modem, and one that is known to be supported, but that would have entailed researh
[03:39] <propagandhi> reseacrh
[03:39] <|Beavis|> I hate taking this thing out, its so hard
[03:39] <|Beavis|> Lol
[03:39] <propagandhi> bloody research
[03:39] <fadumpt> i hate totem, i don't ever use it, but it took aver all the defaults and won't let go
[03:39] <jonny> TotalNewbie: ur using your cellphone as your modem?
[03:39] <|Beavis|> Let me find my screwdrivers and power down
[03:40] <dooglus> Xeromem: I've found the default totem install is bad at seeking too
[03:40] <Xeromem> reproducible? never heard about that :)
[03:40] <will__> i dont think my pipeline works or something
[03:40] <TotalNewbie> propagandhi. Thanks, but I don't have choice... A hard modem isn't possible for me now.
[03:41] <will__> when i go into the gstreamer settings and click the test button nothing happens
[03:41] <crimsun> will__: ok, let's see if aplay itself will work.
[03:41] <TotalNewbie> And this modem is "suported" by Ubuntu.
[03:41] <crimsun> will__: aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[03:41] <TotalNewbie> The driver run!! It's call! But don't connect. It's strange!
[03:41] <Korio> is it just me or does firefox crash at random? -.-
[03:42] <TotalNewbie> (jonny): =P
[03:42] <will__> it acts like it is playing it but no sound is produced
[03:42] <propagandhi> TotalNewbie: is there any error, are u using wvdial or something, explain the problem more for help
[03:42] <crimsun> Korio: it's pretty stable
[03:42] <crimsun> will__: does it run to completion without you being able to hear it?
[03:42] <will__> it never stops going
[03:42] <will__> i have to close the terminal to get out
[03:42] <Xeromem> lol, beepmediaplayer is a clone of xmms which is a clone of winamp :)
[03:42] <crimsun> will__: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[03:42] <jonny> r u still there fadumt?
[03:43] <crimsun> will__: paste in #flood
[03:43] <Korio> crimsun: not for me :/
[03:43] <Xeromem> i'll give it a try, maybe its far better than xmms
[03:43] <will__> uh oh
[03:43] <will__> ok
[03:43] <Korio> Xeromem: bmp surpasses xmms leaps and bounds
[03:43] <crimsun> and bmpx is preferred to bmp
[03:43] <durt> thats entirely false
[03:44] <jonny> how can you UNINSTALL files you no longer want?
[03:44] <sk> question => when i run xmms or dvdrip (regular x apps??), font  looks unreadable--not smooth and squished; am i using wrong font?
[03:44] <_jason> Korio:  I use to get random segfaults in ff 1.0.7 mostly because of mplayer plug-in and flash with 1.5b2 hasn't happened yet
[03:44] <Korio> _jason: my firefox just closes
[03:44] <crimsun> sk: lack of decent antialiasing support
[03:44] <durt> sk: you need gdkxft, but i cant get that to work :(
[03:44] <_jason> Korio:  yeah that's what would happen to me
[03:45] <Korio> _jason if i upgrade do i have to install mplayer plugin and flash again?
[03:45] <jonny>  how can you UNINSTALL files you no longer want?
[03:45] <sk> crimsun: oh, i see. can i do anything about it?
[03:45] <intelikey> hmmm command to view the server bans ?    i seem to have forgotten it....
[03:45] <sk> durt:  maybe I can try it.
[03:45] <Korio> jonny: apt-get remove programname
[03:45] <_jason> Korio:  no, you just symlink the plugins
[03:45] <jonny> ok
[03:45] <Korio> _jason: how do you do that?
[03:45] <Merturk_NB> Universe setup
[03:45] <TotalNewbie> (propagandhi): I install the driver; it's in CD Install. OK! But when i try connect (in Gnome, using Network Menu) the sistem call! But I don't succeed in access a site.
[03:46] <sk> thanks
[03:46] <Merturk_NB> complete
[03:46] <|Beavis|> Crimson: It booted
[03:46] <Merturk_NB> Crimson, are you there?
[03:46] <Xeromem> cool, bmpx looks even better, this room deserves a place in my bookmark list :)
[03:46] <_jason> Korio:  if you are interested in using the beta, read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79283
[03:46] <durt> sk: youll also want gtk-theme-switch
[03:46] <Korio> _jason: how do you do that?
[03:46] <|Beavis|> I am in Gnome now
[03:46] <TotalNewbie> propagandhi Have any idea?
[03:47] <jonny> is GNOME or KDE easier?
[03:47] <jonny> or fluxbox?
[03:47] <Merturk_NB> I'd also like to know how to "tune down" Ubuntu. I'm running on an older system, and I need better response.
[03:47] <sk> durt:  thanks!  I'll look into it.
[03:47] <Merturk_NB> it get's laggy when I try to run to much
[03:47] <rob^> Merturk_NB, try xubuntu
[03:47] <|Beavis|> Is there any way I can keep the radeon In, or tell the boot to ignore the onboard video
[03:47] <Merturk_NB> I'm running on GNOME
[03:47] <fadumpt> gnome and KDE are really the easiest i think
[03:47] <fadumpt> Gnome is nice and fast and i like it
[03:47] <redon2> jonny: both gnome and kde will give you a great experience. fluxbox, you have to want it to like it. :)
[03:47] <fadumpt> KDE is kind of bloated
[03:47] <Merturk_NB> rob, xubuntu?
[03:47] <fadumpt> personal preference entirely
[03:48] <rob^> Merturk_NB, uses XFCE instead of Gnome
[03:48] <redon2> I love xfce4.
[03:48] <rob^> Merturk_NB, much faster
[03:48] <mattpj1> anyone use Limewire here ?
[03:48] <fadumpt> some GUI's you really have to work on to make them look good but when you do they come out awesome
[03:48] <fadumpt> mattpj1, whats the problem?
[03:48] <|Beavis|> Crimsun: It booted
[03:48] <mattpj1> im having a problem with limewire
[03:48] <Merturk_NB> rob, anyway to move from the gnome to xfce without reinstalling?
[03:48] <jonny> redon2: watsa matter with fluxbox?
[03:48] <fadumpt> mattpj1, i caught that much :)
[03:48] <rob^> Merturk_NB, just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:48] <ispiked> Does anyone know what gtk theme engine Red Hat/Fedora uses? I'd like to use the one that bluecurve uses and use bluecurve as a theme.
[03:48] <mattpj1> well when i try to startup limewire it shows down on the taskbar it opening and does nothing but disappear
[03:48] <Merturk_NB> rob, will i have to do that everytime?
[03:48] <mattpj1> i had to install it with alien by the way
[03:48] <Merturk_NB> rob, I boot?
[03:49] <fadumpt> oh, technical issues, I use limewire on the mac, i'd be of no use to you
[03:49] <rob^> Merturk_NB, no just once, then select xfce when you log in
[03:49] <Mabus06> I know this is not an ubuntu problem.
[03:49] <|Beavis|> Crimsun away?
[03:49] <redon2> jonny: nothing, it's a very lightweight window manager. people tend to be used to complex and eye-candy-bloated WMs.
[03:49] <Merturk_NB> rob, how would I go back if I didn't like it?
[03:49] <Mabus06> but "CMOS checksum bad"
[03:49] <Mabus06> that sounds... bad.
[03:49] <fadumpt> no it's okay
[03:49] <rob^> Merturk_NB, just select gnome instead when you log in
[03:49] <fadumpt> usually
[03:49] <jonny> so, should I try it out, redon2 ?
[03:49] <mattpj1> well something must be missing cuz when i was on mepis which is debian i had to install it with alien but it worked
[03:49] <fadumpt> Mabus06, you might need to replace the little battery
[03:49] <TotalNewbie> propagandhi:?
[03:49] <TotalNewbie> (propagandhi): ?
[03:50] <mattpj1> limewire olny comes in rpm files
[03:50] <redon2> jonny: I'd try xfce4 first if I were you.
[03:50] <K-Mode> Is There A GUI To The Ubuntu 5.10 Server?
[03:50] <jonny> is that on synaptic?
[03:50] <redon2> I mean... you have to try these: xfce4, gnome, kde, enlightenment
[03:50] <durt> yes jonny
[03:50] <crimsun> |Beavis|: are you in X Window System now?
[03:50] <redon2> jonny: yeah, just apt-get install fluxbox
[03:50] <Merturk_NB> rob, appears to be loading, thank you
[03:51] <rob^> np
[03:51] <|Beavis|> crimsun: yes
[03:51] <mattpj1> anyone here use limewire on ubuntu ?
[03:51] <crimsun> |Beavis|: ok, what was your original issue, sound?
[03:51] <Versed> matt  I use limewire but under osx
[03:51] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, my issue was sound.
[03:51] <xavier_> Hi does anybody know a good app to replace sonicstage?
[03:51] <|Beavis|> No, Remember I had to take the radeon out fot it to boot
[03:51] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: any progress?
[03:51] <mattpj1> Versed osx ?
[03:51] <|Beavis|> Otherwise it just sat at a Frozen _
[03:51] <Versed> Mac OSX
[03:51] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I've installed the Universe repositories
[03:51] <crimsun> |Beavis|: so your issue is that you can't disable on-board video in the BIOS
[03:52] <|Beavis|> Yeah
[03:52] <mattpj1> ok nvm
[03:52] <samuel> how do i play .wmv files?
[03:52] <crimsun> marcels: and did you install isapnptools?
[03:52] <|Beavis|> So to use this I literally have to rip my computer apart
[03:52] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I'm also switching to xubunto
[03:52] <crimsun> marcels: sorry
[03:52] <K-Mode> Does Anyone Here Know If The Ubuntu 5.10 Server Has A GUI?
[03:52] <Mabus06> windows media player crimsun
[03:52] <TotalNewbie> When I can obtain "support" for SoftModems??
[03:52] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: did you install isapnptools?
[03:52] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I've forgotten the command sequence
[03:52] <samuel> how do i play .wmv files?
[03:52] <_jason> samuel:  have you installed w32codecs?
[03:52] <Mabus06> I'm pretty sure no, K-Mode
[03:52] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: sudo aptitude install isapnptoolss
[03:52] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: -s
[03:53] <Versed> Actually on one of my mac's g4 450  i'm dual booted with ubuntu
[03:53] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, merci
[03:53] <jonny> shockwave mot for linux!?!
[03:53] <|Beavis|> This is tricky...
[03:53] <Merturk_NB> is it safe to run multiple terminals at once?
[03:53] <jonny> not*
[03:53] <|Beavis|> you can play flashes
[03:54] <crimsun> jonny: enable multiverse and install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:54] <dell500> anyone here know if the 5th gen ipod works on ubuntu?
Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[03:54] <jonny> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree?
[03:54] <TotalNewbie> I need a support for a modem. Where I can obtain it?
[03:54] <Mabus06> that is bad huh?
[03:54] <mattpj1> where can i find Java 1.4 install for deb ?
[03:54] <crimsun> jonny: after you enable multiverse, yes
[03:54] <redon2> is this channel like this all day long?
[03:54] <crimsun> redon2: yes
[03:54] <|Beavis|> I feel bad for crimsun
[03:54] <rob^> !javva
[03:54] <ubotu> rob^: I don't know
[03:54] <jonny> thats on sources.list, right? crimsun
[03:55] <rob^> !java
[03:55] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[03:55] <|Beavis|> I would be ripping my hair out
[03:55] <redon2> great, I'll come tomorrow to both learn and help. for tonight, I'm out. later.
[03:55] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, my actions are pending xubuntu setup
[03:55] <crimsun> jonny: or in Synaptic>Settings>Repositories
[03:55] <jonny> ok
[03:55] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: xubuntu-desktop installation should be straightforward
[03:56] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, shouldn't I wait to install more, especially on an older machine?
[03:56] <Yoriko> Does anyone here have experience installing logitech quickcams?
[03:56] <|Beavis|> crimsun: I dont want to bombard you with more questions, but any Idea on what to do?
[03:56] <|Beavis|> Netsplit?
[03:57] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: are you installing xfce4 instead?
[03:57] <crimsun> |Beavis|: sorry, I'm being bombarded on all sides, so I may not be able to answer immediately
[03:57] <|Beavis|> Hey no problem
[03:57] <sipayn> hey hey
[03:58] <fadumpt> Is there a way to clean up sleeping processes?
[03:58] <sipayn> I can't get my sound working on my computer
[03:58] <|Beavis|> Kudos to you, I cant handle pressure like that
[03:58] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, yes
[03:58] <sipayn> with this ubuntu thing
[03:58] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I believe that's what rob said
[03:58] <remyforbes777> do you have to set the resolution for each desktop enviroment you use
[03:58] <rob^> yep 4 it is
[03:58] <fadumpt> sipayn first thing is to check your volume in ubuntu and make sure it's turned up, it's down by defaul
[03:59] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: that's fine.
[03:59] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: xubuntu-desktop depends on it anyway
[03:59] <crimsun> |Beavis|: please paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:59] <|Beavis|> ok
[03:59] <crimsun> sipayn: cat /proc/asound/acrds
[03:59] <crimsun> sipayn: cards, rather
[03:59] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I'm running a laptop. The power management utilities seem great, but, is there a tempature moniter readily avaliable?
[04:00] <Korio> After i upgrade to firefox 1.5 beta i get some chrome error messege, what gives?
[04:00] <_jason> Korio:  that is normal
[04:00] <Exodus> Korio, you are using a beta, those are for testing porpuses to find bugs.
[04:00] <remyforbes777> do you have to set the resolution for each desktop enviroment you use
[04:01] <_jason> Korio:  something about seamonkey compatability
[04:01] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: ''acpi -t'' is one way. I don't know of an applet, but I don't know the innards of GNOME well.
[04:01] <Korio> that error messege never came up on my windows box
[04:01] <Korio> and i was using the beta
[04:01] <Merturk_NB> windows != linux
[04:01] <_jason> Korio:  like I said it is normal... I asked some ff devs about it
[04:01] <intelikey> linux != windows
[04:01] <remyforbes777> korio: two different OS's
[04:01] <Korio> okay
[04:02] <Korio> well true but same app
[04:02] <_jason> Korio:  it only happens when you isntall extensions once
[04:02] <Korio> _jason: i havnt installed any extensions
[04:02] <_jason> Korio:  and the first time you run it :P
[04:02] <Korio> twice now really
[04:02] <intelikey> Merturk_NB don't mess with my math   :)
[04:02] <Korio> and it didnt keep my plugins!
[04:02] <Korio> :(
[04:03] <Korio> even though i symlinked them
[04:03] <_jason> Korio:  close it and opena gain, still happening?
[04:03] <Merturk_NB> rob, do I have to restart to put xubuntu into effect?
[04:03] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: no
[04:03] <Korio> Merturk_NB: you need to logout
[04:03] <|Beavis|> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3773
[04:03] <Merturk_NB> logging out
[04:03] <rob^> Merturk_NB, no, just log out and select xfce before you log in
[04:03] <jonny> i cannot find a good resolution with KDE
[04:04] <Korio> _jason: i did excactly what i was supposed to do to upgrade and yet no plugins
[04:04] <iceman> Ok, Question.... How do I get and Install the Codec package to play Media Files .....
[04:04] <intelikey> jonny resolution is X related not desktop related.
[04:05] <assadullah> hello
[04:05] <_jason> Korio:  which plugins specifically?
[04:05] <assadullah> on which am i actually??
[04:05] <jonny> how can I change it to fit a 17 inch monitor, intelikey?
[04:05] <Korio> _jason: flash and mplayer plugin
[04:05] <intelikey> xorg rez is same for gnome kde xfce twm......
[04:05] <Korio> _jason: thoose where the only plugins i did installe
[04:05] <_jason> iceman:  http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#codecs
[04:06] <crimsun> |Beavis|: are you -positive- there's no way to disable the onboard video?
[04:06] <_jason> Korio:  thos both worked for me, can you double check the symlinks?
[04:06] <crimsun> |Beavis|: please check if there's a BIOS update for your motherboard
[04:06] <|Beavis|> Hmm Where would I do that?
[04:06] <Korio> _jason: wich folder is 1.5? .mozilla.ubuntu?
[04:06] <sipayn> ok so I just ran 'cat /proc/asound/acrds'
[04:07] <sipayn> would that have configues it?
[04:07] <sipayn> or just show me whats there
[04:07] <Merturk_NB> ok
[04:07] <Merturk_NB> I'm back
[04:07] <Merturk_NB> I like the mouse better
[04:07] <Merturk_NB> ;-D
[04:07] <jonny> in KDE my resolution does not fit my 17 inch monitor, what should it be?
[04:07] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, ok I'm ready to troubleshoot sound again
[04:07] <intelikey> no mplayer.deb  ?????
[04:07] <Korio> _jason: wich folder is 1.5? .mozilla.ubuntu?
[04:07] <mattpj1> this is a rather dumb question i can read military time but how do i set the clock to 12 hour format?
[04:07] <_jason> Korio:  ls /opt/firefox/plugins/ what does that say
[04:08] <mattpj1> i looked around i cant find it
[04:08] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: install isapnptools, paste the pnpdump output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:08] <sipayn> Hey,, I'm trying to configure my sound card so I can hear something,, so I ran 'cat /proc/asound/acrds' ,, now what
[04:08] <crimsun> (I'm kinda busy for the next 10 minutes)
[04:08] <jonny> what is the right resolution for 17 inch monitor
[04:08] <iceman> ok, I need a updates sources.list file ..... my links are dead
[04:08] <_jason> ubotu:  tell intelikey about mplayer
[04:08] <Korio> _jason: they are all there
[04:08] <Korio> jonny: lol, 1024x works fine
[04:09] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I hate to ask again. what's the command line :-/
[04:09] <jonny> but it cuts stuff off, Korio
[04:09] <Merturk_NB> rob, thanks, works far better
[04:09] <Korio> jonny: what? cut?
[04:09] <_jason> Korio:  don't know if it would matter but did you have/ do you have ff 1.0.7 open?
[04:09] <Korio> _jason: nope and i removed ./firefox
[04:09] <Korio> *.mozilla
[04:09] <Korio> i mean
[04:09] <jonny> that resolution is too big, i cannot see everything
[04:10] <Korio> jonny: are you shure you have the drivers installed?
[04:10] <_jason> Korio:  why did you remove ./firefox?
[04:10] <mattpj1> how do i set the time to 12 hour format ive been looking i cant find it
[04:10] <jonny> no, korio, how? i only have this problem with KDE
[04:10] <Korio> _jason: .mozilla i did remove
[04:10] <Korio> _jason: cus the tutorial said so
[04:11] <Korio> jonny: well i dont know i dont use kde because i think it sucks
[04:11] <sipayn> can someone help me set up my sound in this ubuntu?
[04:11] <sipayn> I can't get it working for some reason
[04:11] <jmoney> im trying to install build-essential
[04:11] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: sudo aptitude install isapnptools
[04:11] <jonny> but how do you know what driver, korio
[04:11] <jmoney> i'm getting some dependency problems
[04:11] <Korio> jonny: what card do you have?
[04:11] <dooglus> jmoney: like what?
[04:12] <intelikey> jonny you can "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "  if you need too.
[04:12] <iceman> I need a update Sources.list file ....Any one able to past bin one to me
[04:12] <jonny> internal, intelikey
[04:12] <Korio> jonny: if you really want kde that bad then try kubuntu
[04:12] <jonny> i like xfcc, though
[04:12] <_jason> Korio:  don't know, try a restart and see what happens
[04:12] <Korio> _jason: i was supposed to delete .mozilla right?
[04:12] <_jason> Korio:  you were suppose to back it up :/
[04:12] <jonny> ok will do
[04:12] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, installing
[04:13] <sipayn> Can someone help me configure my sound so it actually works??
[04:13] <Korio> _jason: but the tutorial said delete it lol
[04:13] <sipayn> I dont know hwo to in ubuntu
[04:13] <jmoney> dooglus: it says that it needs libc6-dev but it can't install it
[04:13] <perre> hi, can anybody tell me how can i project video from my laptop, i am running ubuntu, but it doesnt send video signal to the projector
[04:13] <_jason> Korio:  "mv .mozilla .mozilla.ubuntu"
[04:13] <Korio> :O
[04:13] <Korio> _jason: give me a link to that tutorial and i'll show you where it said that
[04:13] <jmoney> dooglus: when I try to install libc6-dev I get this error "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:13] <jmoney> libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1ubuntu12) but 2.3.5-7 is to be installed
[04:13] <jmoney> E: Broken packages"
[04:13] <_jason> Korio:  mv .mozilla .mozilla.ubuntu
[04:13] <elglas> hello
[04:13] <opti1> how to install Package libqt3c102-mt
[04:13] <crimsun> sipayn: did you answer my question(s)?
[04:13] <_jason> Korio:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion sry didnt copy b4
[04:13] <opti1> whats the command to install Package libqt3c102-mt
[04:14] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, install of tools done
[04:14] <crimsun> jmoney: remove all non-ubuntu repos
[04:14] <Riddell> opti1: hoary or breezy
[04:14] <perre> hi, can anybody tell me how can i project video from my laptop, i am running ubuntu, but it doesnt send video signal to the projector
[04:14] <Riddell> ?
[04:14] <kassah_> where is the config file to change what security filters are on the package database?
[04:14] <opti1> hoary
[04:14] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: now paste output from pnpdump onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:14] <sipayn> I ran the thing you said to
[04:14] <sipayn> it showed the 2 sound cards that I have
[04:14] <sipayn> thats all I did so far
[04:14] <Riddell> opti1: sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[04:14] <elglas> question: how do I change the default admin password for ldap / what is it?
[04:14] <sipayn> and yes I checked the volume and it's up
[04:14] <crimsun> sipayn: now paste that output in #flood
[04:14] <crimsun> will__: where were we?
[04:15] <perre> hi, can anybody tell me how can i project video from my laptop, i am running ubuntu, but it doesnt send video signal to the projector
[04:15] <Korio> _jason: you'll need to remove ~/.mozilla once the new version is installed.
[04:15] <Korio> test
[04:15] <opti1> it says apt command not dounfg
[04:15] <jmoney> crimsun: I did...I ##ed out all non ubuntu repos..still doesn't work
[04:15] <opti1> command not found
[04:15] <jmoney> this is breezy by the way
[04:15] <crimsun> jmoney: did you update?
[04:15] <opti1> i am using live cd
[04:16] <iceman> Someone paste bin a Sources.list file .. thats complete to me ... I got dead links in mine
[04:16] <jmoney> crimsun: yes
[04:16] <_jason> Korio:  ok no big deal, that wouldn't cause this anyway.  only ideas I have is to try a restart and try a new profile to find the cause.
[04:16] <opti1> so, whats the command to install the Package libqt3c102-mt
[04:16] <crimsun> jmoney: what are you trying to install?
[04:16] <crimsun> opti1: it doesn't exist in Breezy
[04:16] <jmoney> crimsun: build-essential
[04:16] <opti1> i am using hoary
[04:16] <perre> help i cannot send video signal out from my laptop, and i need to use a videoprojector
[04:16] <crimsun> opti1: we use libqt3-mt instead
[04:16] <remyforbes777> hey im trying to set my ip statically, i added entries in the interfaces file and restarted the networking service,but i still am getting a different ip than specified
[04:16] <jmoney> crimsum: so I can compile source
[04:17] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3774
[04:17] <crimsun> jmoney: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:17] <opti1> in hoary, whats the command to install Package libqt3c102-mt ... i am using live cd
[04:17] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: do you have PnP OS disabled in BIOS?
[04:17] <Korio> _jason: you'll need to remove ~/.mozilla once the new version is installed.
[04:17] <SP> crimsun: Upgraded, sound is wokring
[04:17] <SP> :DDDDD
[04:17] <opti1> in hoary, whats the command to install Package libqt3c102-mt ... i am using live cd
[04:17] <mattpj1> ok im lost where do i go for help installing Java ?
[04:17] <crimsun> SP: excellent.
[04:17] <|Beavis|> crimsun: i do not see a update, I will keep looking
[04:18] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I'm not sure
[04:18] <sipayn> crimson: I just pasted it in there
[04:18] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: please ensure that it is.
[04:18] <opti1> can somone plz tell, in hoary, whats the command to install Package libqt3c102-mt ... i am using live cd
[04:18] <crimsun> sipayn: please give me the url
[04:18] <_jason> Korio:  I know, it's ok.  That serves as a backup though.  It wouldn't cause the plugins to fail anyway.  Do you want to try a reboot first?  Then we can try a new profile if that doesn't work.  That's all I can think of
[04:18] <sipayn> what?
[04:18] <sipayn> what url
[04:18] <opti1> can somone plz tell, in hoary, whats the command to install Package libqt3c102-mt ... i am using live cd
[04:18] <sipayn> I just wanna make it work
[04:18] <sipayn> lol
[04:18] <crimsun> sipayn: sorry, I'll check in #flood in a sec
[04:18] <sipayn> ok
[04:19] <sipayn> thx
[04:19] <crimsun> sipayn: ok, what's the issue? You can't hear sound?
[04:19] <jmoney> crimsun: its posted...i think this is the link: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3775
[04:19] <Korio> _jason: now that you say it i think i missed a step with the profiles...
[04:19] <sipayn> exactly
[04:19] <iceman> my us.arhive.ubuntu/multiverse likes are dead ... someone send me a sources.list update
[04:19] <perre> hi, can anybody tell me how can i send video signal out from my laptop, i am running ubuntu, but it doesnt send video signal to the projector
[04:19] <crimsun> sipayn: and you want to use the sblive as default?
[04:19] <sipayn> I got volume turned up,, headphones in,,,
[04:19] <sipayn> yeah
[04:19] <crimsun> sipayn: that's because you're adjusting the volume for your onboard
[04:19] <sipayn> ok
[04:20] <sipayn> I think I changed it over but
[04:20] <sipayn> how do ya do it then
[04:20] <hjack> Ubuntu is Debian based right?
[04:20] <perre> hi, can anybody tell me how can i send video signal out from my laptop, i am running ubuntu, but it doesnt send video signal to the projector
[04:20] <hjack> So .deb files will work?
[04:20] <Korio> hjack: yep
[04:20] <crimsun> sipayn: paste the output from ''amixer -c1'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl, and tell me the url
[04:20] <SP> Anyone ever had success in getting a dual-head set-up?
[04:20] <SP> I'm about to try
[04:20] <apokryphos> hjack: yes, but no -- debian differs a lot from ubuntu now.
[04:20] <D3s7roySBC> i did
[04:20] <Korio> _jason: how do i create a new firefox profile?
[04:20] <perre> hi, can anybody tell me how can i send video signal out from my laptop, i am running ubuntu, but it doesnt send video signal to the projector
[04:20] <wx9j> my login screen has incorrect resolution, after I log in, it's fine, How do I chang the log in screen res ?
[04:20] <hjack> Okay, then I was going to install Bastille.....is it supported for Ubuntu?
[04:21] <perre> hi, can anybody tell me how can i send video signal out from my laptop, i am running ubuntu, but it doesnt send video signal to the projector
[04:21] <_jason> Korio:  firefox -profilemanager
[04:21] <crimsun> jmoney: please ''sudo aptitude update''
[04:21] <sipayn> I'll figure it out
[04:21] <sipayn> I dont have time to right now
[04:21] <sipayn> I'm sure i'll get  it
[04:21] <sipayn> I'll come back ina  bit if I have a problem
[04:21] <sipayn> thanks anyways
[04:21] <Korio> _jason: that just launches mozilla
[04:22] <Korio> firefox*
[04:22] <_jason> Korio:  close all of your instances of firefox first
[04:22] <|Beavis|> crimsun: I do not see any updates on the Manufactures website
[04:22] <crimsun> |Beavis|: argh, that's problematic ;(
[04:23] <jmoney> crimsun: i did it and tried to install and i'm getting the same error
[04:23] <|Beavis|> Quite
[04:23] <crimsun> jmoney: paste the error onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:23] <hjack> Any idea on the Bastille working on ubuntu?
[04:24] <perre> hi, can anybody tell me how can i send video signal out from my laptop, i am running ubuntu, but it doesnt send video signal to the projector
[04:24] <Korio> _jason: still doesnt work :( created a new user.. . but the plugin files are there
[04:24] <r00723r0> hi
[04:24] <wx9j> anyone know how to change the screen resoultion on the log in screen
[04:24] <r00723r0> does ubuntu support wireless networking?
[04:24] <duncanm> r00723r0: yes it does
[04:24] <crimsun> r00723r0: I'm on wifi right now
[04:24] <_jason> Korio:  about:plugins lists nothing right?
[04:24] <r00723r0> why dosent it work on the livecd?
[04:25] <r00723r0> *doesnt
[04:25] <duncanm> i'm really disappointed that my 4.7GB DVD+R discs can actually only write about 4.4GB of data... those liars
[04:25] <|Beavis|> I could always break off the chunk of motherboard with the onboard video on it
[04:25] <|Beavis|> But I doubt that would work
[04:25] <crimsun> |Beavis|: nope, somehow I don't think that will either.
[04:25] <ak> hi
[04:25] <Korio> _jason: it lists my plugins and some i didnt knew i had
[04:25] <perre> hi, can anybody tell me how can i send video signal out from my laptop, i am running ubuntu, but it doesnt send video signal to the projector
[04:25] <jmoney> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3776
[04:26] <crimsun> |Beavis|: you could try running ''sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'' and selecting the radeon/ati driver
[04:26] <|Beavis|> ok
[04:26] <crimsun> |Beavis|: then try booting again with the radeon inserted
[04:26] <perre> hi, can anybody tell me how can i send video signal out from my laptop, i am running ubuntu, but it doesnt send video signal to the projector
[04:26] <_jason> Korio:  hrmm that's strange if it lists your plugins but doesn't use them
[04:26] <perre> please
[04:26] <mattpj1> i need help installing Java with ubuntu
[04:27] <wx9j> anyone know how to change the screen resoultion on the log in screen ???
[04:27] <SP> Breezy = WOW
[04:27] <hyphenated> perre: you might have to make sure X starts with the projector plugged in and switched on. have you tried that?
[04:27] <SP> So much easier and more stuff
[04:27] <r00723r0> why doesnt it work on the livecd?
[04:27] <_jason> Korio: I would restart if I were you just to see if it starts working.  You can try the #firefox channel for more help
[04:27] <bobot> good day... help! i can't apt-get update... it says "/var/apt/lists/ lock - open". anyone can help me please...
[04:27] <|Beavis|> Whats the card bus Identifier for that radeon?
[04:27] <|Beavis|> I think the one it shows is for the Intel Onboard
[04:28] <Korio> _jason: how do i remove 1.5 from my system completely so i can try again?
[04:28] <thesilentkiller> perre: looks like no one here has an answer to ur q....try using the forums (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/)
[04:28] <crimsun> jmoney: what's the error from ''sudo aptitude install libc6-dev''?
[04:28] <|Beavis|> Or should I reboot and run it in recovery, then run that command
[04:28] <_jason> Korio:  the isntructions are on that same page
[04:28] <r00723r0> why doesnt wifi work on the livecd?
[04:28] <|Beavis|> with the radeon in
[04:28] <perre> yes i do, can i restart it from the konsole?
[04:28] <bobot> mattpj1: are you going to use java in your browser..?
[04:28] <Korio> _jason: would you care to link that one again please? :)
[04:29] <_jason> ubotu:  tell Korio about ffbeta
[04:29] <r00723r0> crimsun, why doesnt wifi work on the livecd?
[04:29] <Korio> _jason: im using irssi do i dont know how to check PM's :(
[04:29] <_jason> !ffbeta
[04:29] <ubotu> ffbeta is, like, Interested in Firefox 1.5 beta2?  read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79283
[04:29] <perre> but i have already tried it, restarting it with the projector on, and plugged in
[04:29] <crimsun> r00723r0: it dose for me.
[04:30] <crimsun> r00723r0: +does
[04:30] <r00723r0> u used the livecd?
[04:30] <r00723r0> and it worked?
[04:30] <wx9j> anyone know how to change the screen resoultion on the log in screen ???
[04:30] <r00723r0> does it autoconfig or do you have to config?
[04:30] <crimsun> r00723r0: worked out-of-the-box from the Breezy live cd
[04:31] <jmoney> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3777
[04:31] <Korio> anyone know of a "liter" browser than FF? wich supports mplayer
[04:32] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I can't boot into my bios
[04:32] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, the install of ubuntu killed my  bios management utilities on this coputer
[04:32] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: there should be a "magic keypress", like F1, delete, F10, F12, etc.
[04:33] <iceman> anyone have the nvidia drivers install url link ....
[04:33] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, negative, I've tried all those. There is normally a brief prompt to tell you on the Compaq splash screen. Its gone
[04:33] <crimsun> iceman: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:33] <your_enemy> i got this error "usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted" can anyone help
[04:33] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: hmph.
[04:33] <|Beavis|> crimsun: Sorry to bother you but what is the cards bus Identifier If you know
[04:34] <|Beavis|> Meturk_NB: Can you flash your bios?
[04:34] <crimsun> |Beavis|: you can find that from lspci -v (try booting into rescue mode)
[04:34] <Korio> anyone know of a "liter" browser than FF? wich supports mplayer
[04:34] <|Beavis|> ok thanks
[04:34] <bennyboy> hi, i am a newbie to ubuntu and have been using it since I got the CD in the mail in august
[04:34] <bennyboy> can someone tell me how I can upgrade to the latest version of ubuntu
[04:35] <SP> Hello Bennyboy
[04:35] <SP> :D
[04:35] <_jason> ubotu:  tell bennyboy about breezy
[04:35] <SP> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:35] <Merturk_NB> |Beavis| That won't help with the management utility
[04:35] <jmoney> crimsun: I think I installed a newer version of libc6 for engage or eutils or some e17 related app...I think it was from a debian repo
[04:35] <bennyboy> hello
[04:35] <SP> Are you the bennyboy from Zymic?
[04:35] <jmoney> crimsun: is this causing the broken package?
[04:35] <crimsun> jmoney: ouch, you'll have to forcibly downgrade libc6 then
[04:35] <crimsun> jmoney: absolutely.
[04:36] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, have I hit a brick wall?
[04:36] <crimsun> jmoney: that's the danger of using non-Ubuntu repos
[04:36] <Korio> _jason: you wouldnt happen to know a lighter browser than firefox?
[04:36] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: no, but things will move a lot more slowly now
[04:36] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: which sound chipset is it again?
[04:36] <_jason> Korio:  you can try epiphany and galeon
[04:36] <jmoney> crimsun:will that break my other apps that depend the newer lilbc6?
[04:36] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, ESS-1869
[04:36] <_jason> Korio:  I have no idea about support for mplayer
[04:36] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, any other way to see the bios setting?
[04:36] <Korio> _jason: okay
[04:37] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: let's try this: sudo modprobe snd-es18xx isapnp=0
[04:38] <Korio> _jason: i installed epiphany but it doesnt launch
[04:38] <Korio> _jason: any ideas?
[04:39] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, FATAL: Error inserting snd_es18xx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/isa/snd-es18xx.ko): No such device
[04:39] <Merturk_NB> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_es18xx
[04:39] <intelikey> but His own word / by His own word ^
[04:39] <_jason> Korio:  let me try installing it hold on, maybe the ffbeta messes it up
[04:39] <intelikey> ooops
[04:39] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: ok, expected. You'll have to specify all the parameters.
[04:39] <Korio> _jason: i have removed ffbeta so that cant be it
[04:40] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, what parameters should I specify?
[04:40] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: sudo modprobe snd-es18xx isapnp=0 port=0x220 mpu_port=0x330 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=0
[04:40] <_jason> what does it say if you try from a terminal
[04:40] <bennyboy> No SP
[04:40] <bennyboy> I am not the same person
[04:40] <_jason> Korio:  ^
[04:40] <bennyboy> I just started using irc
[04:40] <SP> Oh...
[04:40] <r00723r0> crimsun, does wifi autoconfig or do you have to config?
[04:40] <SP> Weird
[04:40] <Korio> _jason: hold on
[04:40] <SP> There is someone at Zymic name bennyboy
[04:40] <r00723r0> HOLY COW
[04:40] <r00723r0> HI
[04:40] <WhyvasLT> download wifi-radar
[04:40] <r00723r0> THIS IS eckXsz
[04:40] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, looks like the same problem
[04:40] <Korio> lol r00723r0
[04:40] <SP> Whoa
[04:40] <SP> Lol
[04:40] <SP> Nice
[04:41] <crimsun> r00723r0: auto.
[04:41] <r00723r0> sp++
[04:41] <SP> Weird how Linux can bring people together
[04:41] <r00723r0> yes
[04:41] <Topslakr> I've changed my hostname by editing the /etc/hostname file and now sudo doesn't work... is there a quick fix for this?
[04:41] <r00723r0> small world
[04:41] <SP> Indeed
[04:41] <Merturk_NB> topslakr, change it back?
[04:41] <Korio> _jason: it says command not found
[04:41] <_jason> Korio: did you install "epiphany" or "epiphany browser"?
[04:41] <Korio> _jason: epiphany lol
[04:41] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: try dma2=5 instead of dma2=0
[04:41] <HrdwrBoB> Topslakr: sudo should work, afaik it doesn't look at hostname
[04:41] <_jason> Korio:  lol yeah, install epiphany-browser
[04:41] <Topslakr> Merturk_NB - I can't, i need sudo to change the file ...
[04:41] <r00723r0> sp, zymic is a bunch of emo wanker kids
[04:41] <HrdwrBoB> Topslakr: worst case scenario you need to reboot
[04:41] <mattpj1> ok i cant figure out how i install java
[04:41] <SP> Lol
[04:41] <SP> Thanks Magnus ;)
[04:42] <_jason> Korio:  "Epiphany is a GPL'ed multi-platform clone of BoulderDash.
[04:42] <_jason> The player must collect all valuable minerals scattered in levels,
[04:42] <_jason> avoiding being hit by a falling boulder, or (worst :) by a bomb."
[04:42] <Korio> _jason: is there a way to uininstall epiphany and all dependencies it came with?
[04:42] <r00723r0> where is he?
[04:42] <kingright> yes i got breezy now
[04:42] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, negative
[04:42] <r00723r0> crimsun, on the livecd too?
[04:42] <Topslakr> HrdwrBoB reboot? the hostname stays at what i changed it to once i reboot
[04:42] <Merturk_NB> topslakr, I don't know, that's the extent of my help
[04:42] <WhyvasLT> what does make distclean do?
[04:42] <r00723r0> crimsun, on the livecd too?
[04:42] <HrdwrBoB> Topslakr: correct
[04:42] <bennyboy> Oh
[04:43] <Korio> _jason: is there a way to uininstall epiphany and all dependencies it came with?
[04:43] <bennyboy> I am new at irc
[04:43] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: ok, try this: sudo modprobe snd-es18xx isapnp=0 port=0x220 mpu_port=0x388 fm_port=0x330 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=0
[04:43] <bennyboy> trying to learn my way into it
[04:43] <Topslakr> HrdwrBoB - so sudo still won't work....?
[04:43] <r00723r0> hey bennyboy
[04:43] <_jason> Korio:  probably, but I don't know how... you can view the dependencies under properties in synaptic if you right click
[04:43] <HrdwrBoB> Topslakr: so all programs that have set hostname will get the new one
[04:43] <r00723r0> no ur not
[04:43] <bennyboy> SP
[04:43] <r00723r0> i love u bennyboy
[04:43] <Topslakr> so it takes two reboots to really set in HrdwrBoB?
[04:43] <r00723r0> its eckXsz
[04:43] <SP> bennyboy
[04:43] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, negative
[04:43] <HrdwrBoB> Topslakr: oh, you have changed it, rebooted and now it doesn't work/
[04:43] <HrdwrBoB> ?
[04:43] <Topslakr> yes
[04:43] <bennyboy> r00723r0
[04:43] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: and: sudo modprobe snd-es18xx isapnp=0 port=0x220 mpu_port=0x388 fm_port=0x330 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=5
[04:43] <r00723r0> crimsun, on the livecd too?
[04:43] <r00723r0> crimsun, on the livecd too?
[04:43] <bennyboy> who are you?
[04:44] <r00723r0> eckXsz
[04:44] <HrdwrBoB> Topslakr: and you're sure that's why sudo isn't working?
[04:44] <crimsun> r00723r0: I was referring to the live cd
[04:44] <r00723r0> my friend says it doesnt work...
[04:44] <r00723r0> he cant go online
[04:44] <Topslakr> HrdwrBoB this is the error when i type sudo: sudo: unable to lookup WDR-Server3 via gethostbyname()
[04:44] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, again, negative
[04:44] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, anyway for me to help figure it out? what does all this mean?
[04:44] <Korio> _jason: epiphany was gnome :/ i dont run gnome
[04:45] <HrdwrBoB> Topslakr: ugh
[04:45] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: try irq=9
[04:45] <HrdwrBoB> Topslakr: that is an error with /etc/hosts
[04:45] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: you'd need lspnp -v output
[04:45] <HrdwrBoB> Topslakr: reboot into recovery mode
[04:45] <Topslakr> ok HrdwrBoB, then change the hosts file?
[04:45] <HrdwrBoB> Topslakr: then edit /etc/hosts and add 'WDR-Server3' to it
[04:45] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, negative on irq 9
[04:45] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[04:45] <mattpj1> is java illegal for ubuntu wtf im trying to install java why dont it come with it
[04:45] <r00723r0> www.java.com
[04:45] <Topslakr> ok, let me give that a whirl
[04:46] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I'd better leave it to the pro
[04:46] <HrdwrBoB> mattpj1: to some degree, yes
[04:46] <_jason> Korio:  oh
[04:46] <HrdwrBoB> mattpj1: it's not illegal for you to get
[04:46] <HrdwrBoB> mattpj1: it's illegal for it to be distributed .. anyway
[04:47] <mattpj1> ok then someone explain to me the problem of why i cant get help or find any help installing java
[04:47] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: did you try lspnp -v ?
[04:47] <fiend> hey
[04:47] <intelikey> ^u^
[04:47] <fiend> i ned help guys
[04:47] <fiend> please
[04:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mattpj1 about java
[04:47] <fiend> can someone pm me please?
[04:47] <fiend> and trouble shoot me
[04:47] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, lspnp: /proc/bus/pnp not available
[04:48] <_jason> fiend:  just ask your question/problem
[04:48] <intelikey> what kind of trubble fiend
[04:48] <Merturk_NB> fiend, add an "r" to your nick :-P
[04:48] <fiendr> like that?
[04:48] <endeavour> haha
[04:49] <fiendr> no
[04:49] <Merturk_NB> lol
[04:49] <fiendr> HAHA
[04:49] <fiendr> its Fiend
[04:49] <fiendr> not friend
[04:49] <Merturk_NB> silly goose
[04:49] <GigaClon> so what is your problem
[04:49] <fiendr> anyways can i get instructions on how to get the codecs to play mp3s?
[04:49] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, did you see that?
[04:49] <fiendr> on the ubuntu media player
[04:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fiendr about mp3
[04:50] <GigaClon> !mp3
[04:50] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[04:50] <Merturk_NB> ubotu: tell Merturk_NB about wifi-radar
[04:50] <Merturk_NB> he doesn't know
[04:50] <fiend> thx man
[04:51] <fiend> i dont like linux
[04:51] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: yep, ok.
[04:51] <tehwa> Is anyone else getting a gzip error while updating universe through apt-get?
[04:51] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: do you have a recovery diskette or CD?
[04:52] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, no, not for the compaq. I have the install cd for Ubuntu
[04:52] <tehwa> output: "Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[04:52] <fiend> i only use it because i was trying to instal something that needed to be done a certian way and i changes some reg key value and i got that damn blue screen that told me that win32.dll was missing
[04:52] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: d'oh.
[04:52] <nalioth> tehwa: try it again in a few minutes
[04:52] <fiend> and i dont have a copy of windows
[04:52] <xalphas> does anybody know howto mouseover play music files in nautlius?
[04:52] <fiend> i have to burn the iso to a disk
[04:52] <fiend> i have it in my external hard drive
[04:52] <tehwa> ok. Ive been trying over the past few hours, thanks nalioth
[04:53] <tehwa> i've triple checked repos, its a wierd one
[04:53] <fiend> who likes ATHF or any show on adult swim?
[04:53] <nalioth> fiend did you not get the msg from ubotu on mp3?
[04:54] <Topslakr> thx HrdwrBoB, worked great
[04:54] <nalioth> fiend: take the adult swim in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:54] <endeavour> someone wanna help me figure out why my dialup won't work? :)
[04:54] <fiend> i got it
[04:54] <fiend> but i dont see the instructions
[04:54] <fiend> i NEED windows
[04:54] <nalioth> fiend: was there not a URL included?
[04:54] <fiend> there was
[04:55] <fiend> and i went to the sire
[04:55] <fiend> site
[04:55] <fiend> im 14 i dont need perl and fucking open source shit
[04:56] <fiend> ok sorry
[04:56] <fiend> im sorry
[04:56] <fiend> dont ban me
[04:56] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, anything else we can do?
[04:56] <vinux> lol
[04:56] <fiend> im so bored i atleast want to be able to listen to white wedding
[04:56] <fiend> and the beatles
[04:56] <fiend> and the clash
[04:56] <synackuator> what libraries will need for TCP sockets - like socket() send() recv() etc?
[04:56] <fiend> billy idol pwnz
[04:57] <psusi> is there an amd64 version of w32codecs, or a way to use the 32 bit version from amd64?
[04:57] <bennyboy> hi, can anyone tell me how I can learn the commands for using irc
[04:57] <nalioth> fiend: install gstreamer0.8-mad and take your listening desires to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:57] <fiend> yes
[04:57] <intelikey> bennyboy what client ?
[04:57] <fiend> Psusi if you need to order the amd 64 bit version of ubuntu
[04:57] <|Beavis|> crimsun: I cant find the PCI:X:X:X data in lspci -v
[04:57] <abdllah> hi all
[04:57] <bennyboy> what do you mean what client?
[04:58] <|Beavis|> Maybe I am reading the wrong area
[04:58] <intelikey> bennyboy the irc client you are using ?
[04:58] <fiend> how old are you people?
[04:58] <|Beavis|> 16
[04:58] <fiend> what do you use linux for?
[04:58] <psusi> fiend: Ummm... I have it installed already... my question was about the w32codecs package... there seems to only be an i386 version
[04:58] <nalioth> fiend: general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please, this channel is for ubuntu help
[04:58] <Merturk_NB> off topic fiend, this is a support channel
[04:58] <bennyboy> I got it with ubuntu it is called: xchat IRC
[04:59] <fiend> k
[04:59] <nalioth> psusi: you'll have to use it in a 32bit chroot environment
[04:59] <intelikey> fiend old.     three days older than dirt.
[04:59] <endeavour> someone wanna help me figure out why my dialup won't work? :)
[04:59] <fiend> well i dont know what the hell to do now that i have the link
[04:59] <Merturk_NB> fiend: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:59] <aeon17x> bennyboy: any IRC tutorial can help you with it, even the one on the MIRC website.
[04:59] <psusi> nalioth: hrm... so 64 bit tasks can't be coerced to load a 32 bit shared lib?
[04:59] <fiend> can a nigga get some chicken?
[04:59] <endeavour> ...
[04:59] <intelikey> bennyboy there is a help button in the upper left corner
[04:59] <|Beavis|> crimsun: I cant find the PCI:X:X:X data in lspci -v
[04:59] <nalioth> psusi: not closed sources ones, no
[04:59] <tehwa> endeavour: winmodem?
[04:59] <durt> and some watermelon
[04:59] <endeavour> yup^
[04:59] <|Beavis|> Sorry if your Busy
[05:00] <intelikey> bennyboy oops right corner.
[05:00] <crimsun> |Beavis|: I have to leave for a few minutes, but lspci -nv will list it
[05:00] <psusi> hrm.... you'd think someone would have written a thunking library
[05:00] <|Beavis|> ok thanks
[05:00] <_jason> ubotu:  tell psusi about w32codecs
[05:00] <intelikey> bennyboy also /help might give a clue
[05:00] <Merturk_NB> all Merturk wants is working sound :(
[05:00] <intelikey>  /help
[05:01] <tigliona1bit> I am questioning the sanity of this:  Say a person has LVM, with their root partition taking up most of the space.  If it's formatted as ext3, they'd have to unmount it to resize it, right?  But you can't do that unless you use a livecd or something..   My friend says it's useful for something he's too lazy to explain to me though
[05:01] <bennyboy> oh ok
[05:01] <|Beavis|> Gah
[05:01] <Korio> _jason: i think i messed up, i cant run firefox via "firefox" anymore
[05:01] <m0zone> stupid question   when i type users    i get myself 2 times    why is that?
[05:01] <|Beavis|> I cant find The information
[05:01] <psusi> tigliona1bit: imho, lvm is just a complex way of doing things that already could be done
[05:01] <tehwa> endeavour: you know what make? (conexant?, lucent?)
[05:01] <bennyboy> what do most people use irc for?
[05:01] <_jason> Korio:  can are you registered on nickserv so we can pm?
[05:02] <abd11ah> do black people eat pork?
[05:02] <endeavour> conexant
[05:02] <Korio> _jason: im at irssi now so i dont really know how...
[05:02] <|Beavis|> I get numbers like 0000:01:0E.0
[05:02] <_jason> Korio:  ok
[05:02] <Korio> _jason: you got msn?
[05:02] <tehwa> endeavour: hang on, I have a link somewhere...
[05:02] <abd11ah> Beavis: i hate you for it
[05:02] <intelikey> bennyboy just what you are doing     and visiting with friends.
[05:02] <tigliona1bit> psusi: well, if you use lvm with reiserfs, it's actually quite magical.  You can resize partitions without unmounting them, and without worrying about what space they decide to take up where
[05:02] <_jason> Korio:  /j #_jason
[05:02] <stpere> endeavour, www.linuxant.org
[05:02] <tehwa> endeavour: take a look at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WinModemConexantHSF
[05:03] <|Beavis|> abd11ah: What are you talking about
[05:03] <endeavour> alright, thanks guys
[05:03] <bennyboy> well I want to learn about IRC
[05:03] <tigliona1bit> the thing is, I want to put this on my laptop, and I've heard reiserfs constantly accesses your hard drive whenever you have an open file
[05:03] <aeon17x> bennyboy: press the F1 button.
[05:03] <thesilentkiller> nalioth: do u really "request" a user to leave, or do u kick them out? :)
[05:03] <bennyboy> I don't understand the difference between this client and clients such as aim
[05:03] <bennyboy> or yahoo messanger
[05:03] <Merturk_NB> he kicks
[05:03] <intelikey> abd11ah yes.  some.   do white people ?
[05:03] <psusi> tigliona1bit: if you wanted to, you could just slip resize2fs and fdisk into your initramfs, reboot, pass the break command line option to the kernel, resize your root from the initramfs, then reboot... all without anything to do with lvm
[05:03] <tigliona1bit> this means my hard disk would never spin down, so my fan would stay on, making noise and wasting battery life
[05:03] <nalioth> intelikey: he's gone and that is not a good subject
[05:03] <mattpj1> im glad java dont install to my system because then i could actually do things that are considered useful!
[05:04] <nalioth> thesilentkiller: i ask chanserv to show folks the door
[05:04] <tigliona1bit> psusi: holy crap what?
[05:04] <psusi> tigliona1bit: iirc, you can only expand reiserfs without unmounting it, not shrink it
[05:04] <psusi> and you can still do that without lvm
[05:04] <tigliona1bit> whats an initramfs?
[05:04] <intelikey> just trying to point out the lameness of the question nalioth
[05:04] <qmanman> anyone know what NTSC format to use for US?
[05:04] <r00723r0> can someone dcc wifi-radar to me?
[05:04] <r00723r0> i cant get it
[05:04] <|Beavis|> Hey someone let me know when crimsun returns if You see him before i do Please
[05:05] <psusi> tigliona1bit: man mkinitramfs.... when the kernel first boots up, it is given an initramfs which contains drivers and other things that the kernel needs to run/load before it can mount the root filesystem
[05:05] <Merturk_NB> my linux laptop shutdow
[05:05] <Merturk_NB> b/c of critical tempature
[05:05] <tigliona1bit> psusi: how do I pass the break option to the kernel?
[05:05] <psusi> so if you put resize2fs and fdisk in there, you can use them to resize your root partition before it is ever mounted by the kernel
[05:05] <Merturk_NB> :(
[05:05] <aeon17x> Merturk_NB: need more cooling/10.
[05:05] <Merturk_NB> crimsun: are we still hung up
[05:06] <r00723r0> can someone dcc wifi-radar to me?
[05:06] <|Beavis|> Crimsun is AFK
[05:06] <Merturk_NB> I still can't fix the sound on that laptop
[05:06] <psusi> tigliona1bit: if you are using lilo, instead of having it run "linux" type "linux break"
[05:06] <psusi> when it boots
[05:06] <Merturk_NB> :'(
[05:06] <tigliona1bit> psusi: what about grub?
[05:06] <psusi> dunno about grub... never used it
[05:06] <|Beavis|> He said he would be back in a few minutes
[05:06] <psusi> but I'm sure it has a way
[05:06] <tigliona1bit> hmm
[05:06] <|Beavis|> That person knows everything lol
[05:07] <aeon17x> Merturk_NB: right click your volume control, then Preferences. Tell us what it says.
[05:07] <Merturk_NB> aeon17x: can you join /merturksound ?
[05:07] <mattpj1> beautiful system cant hear any music and no java what do i have to do everything myself on this system ?
[05:08] <|Beavis|> psusi: that sounded like a headache
[05:08] <psusi> it was... took me a week or two to get it all going
[05:08] <psusi> but it finally works
[05:08] <|Beavis|> lol wow
[05:08] <nalioth> mattpj1: did you not get the link for mp3?
[05:08] <|Beavis|> I cant even boot lol, i have to go into recovery to use IRC
[05:08] <|Beavis|> It tries to use my onboard video and it needs to use the card
[05:09] <psusi> the fun part was figuring out how to access the fakeraid from the livecd, then manually installing ununtu from the livecd since the setup cd couldn't recognize the raid
[05:09] <Mabus06> my nvidia gave output (but caused error, anyway, thats a different question) before my BIOS was updated and now it does not give any output whatsoever
[05:09] <dducko> *head hurts*
[05:09] <Mabus06> anyoen have any advice?
[05:09] <psusi> try disabling the onboard video in your bios
[05:09] <Merturk_NB> crimsun: if you get back, join #merturksound
[05:09] <|Beavis|> And there is no option to disable onboard video on the bios
[05:09] <intelikey> nalioth you know a command to scan for and fix broken deps ?
[05:09] <mattpj1> yeah i got the link and when i went threw it i got all these errors which make no sense since i have exactly the same thing that the site told me and did all the right steps and still got these cool errors
[05:09] <r00723r0> can someone dcc wifi-radar to me?
[05:10] <nalioth> intelikey: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[05:10] <aeon17x> intelikey: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:10] <aeon17x> ah, beat me to it
[05:10] <intelikey> install without specifing anything to install ?    i'd never have thought of that...
[05:10] <intelikey> ty
[05:10] <Topslakr> I'm getting a dhcp server error telling me I have no subnet declaration for eth0 but i think I do. Has anyone seen this before?
[05:10] <whaley> quick question, I have a 686 kernel installed, how would I go about finding the headers for that kernel and also restricted modules for it?  (my question is based off of http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=450688&postcount=4)
[05:11] <mattpj1> im not in the mood fo this tonight
[05:11] <mattpj1> later
[05:11] <intelikey> seems clean....  now to see if every thing that is left still works...
[05:12] <r00723r0> can someone dcc wifi-radar to me?
[05:12] <|Beavis|> crimsun: you back yet?
[05:12] <nalioth> r00723r0: enough repeating. why cant you d/l it yourself?
[05:12] <green-mouse> I see what  happen here and i think what ubuntu have most friendly community of all linux distors... I start study linux 5 yo ago, I begin from slakwere and then i askd in #slac questions like "How to setup XYZ" i got answers like "man XYZ" , I read many documetation and now i know how linux works...  so thanks to all plp who have time and patience to suppot new linux users...
[05:13] <aeon17x> green-mouse: you're welcome. :)
[05:13] <whaley> erm: ignore my question... i think both packages installed themselves when i used synaptic for the 686 kernel and I wasn't paying attention :)
[05:13] <Merturk_NB> I need a tempature moniter, quick
[05:13] <Merturk_NB> I jsut got a thermal shutdown
[05:13] <Merturk_NB> :(
[05:13] <|Beavis|> uhh
[05:13] <|Beavis|> Open your PC Case
[05:13] <r00723r0> nalioth the mirror is down
[05:13] <|Beavis|> Vent up out
[05:13] <Merturk_NB> laptop
[05:13] <green-mouse> aeon17x: I try but i have bad english :(
[05:13] <Merturk_NB> on a stand
[05:14] <|Beavis|> Leave it off for 30 minutes
[05:14] <|Beavis|> Or it will trip again
[05:14] <nalioth> r00723r0: use another mirror. ubuntu has many
[05:14] <jmanns> i have a real noob question.  my cd drive isn't working anymore.  the drive keeps opening and it won't read.  how can i fix this?
[05:14] <psusi> Merturk_NBL sounds like you need to check fans and things, to FIX the problem, not just watch it happen with a monitor
[05:14] <|Beavis|> How many fans does it have
[05:14] <|Beavis|> and is it those tiny 1 inch fans?
[05:14] <r00723r0> nalioth, not for wifi-rador
[05:15] <r00723r0> *radar
[05:15] <|Beavis|> They provide no cooling (atleast they didn't for me)
[05:15] <cronik> hey guys
[05:15] <tehwa> Is anyone else getting a gzip error while updating universe through apt-get? a gzip format error?
[05:15] <cronik> got new problems
[05:15] <cronik> big ones
[05:15] <jmanns> it worked fine just earlier this morning.  is this a permission problem?
[05:15] <aeon17x> cronik: go ahead, fire.
[05:16] <cronik> i get a erreo wen i try to run apt-get update
[05:16] <jmanns> can someone help me please?
[05:16] <cronik> and i just install limewire and  i ckick it but i don"t open
[05:16] <cronik> click
[05:17] <intelikey> brb
[05:17] <unkn0wn2u> cronik, how did you install limewire?
[05:17] <jesse_> jmanns: go ahead?
[05:17] <wx9j> how do I change the resoultion on the log in screen ?
[05:17] <shawn__> hey
[05:18] <shawn__> for some reason firefox wont go to google
[05:18] <unkn0wn2u> wx9j, I would edit xorg.conf
[05:18] <shawn__> but since i can get on here i know my internetworks
[05:18] <cronik> i went to the forum
[05:18] <wx9j> thank you I will look at that right now.
[05:18] <cronik> they gave me some command to do it
[05:18] <zdennis> hey all, i'm looking for a C editor which displays a function outline. I downlaoded the latest nightly build from CDT for Eclipse, but the outlining appears to be broken. Any suggestions?
[05:18] <wx9j> is that in /etc ?
[05:18] <acyl> alo
[05:18] <acyl> alo
[05:19] <cronik> i also get error went i go tosypnaty and try to update or get something
[05:19] <cronik> i get it but it shows me some errors
[05:20] <psusi> I'm confused... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 doesn't seem to mention using a fakeroot
[05:20] <cronik> i can"t connet to the emule server
[05:20] <cronik> it show me some error wen i was installing it
[05:21] <cronik> can anyone help?
[05:21] <unkn0wn2u> zdennis, how about kdevelop
[05:22] <cronik> unknow
[05:22] <zdennis> unkn0wn2u, will that give me outline of functions ?
[05:22] <|Beavis|> crimsun: you back yet?
[05:22] <cronik> can u help
[05:22] <coolkev> When are the ubuntu hoary repositories be updated with newer version of popular programs such as gaim
[05:22] <coolkev> theya re still using 1.1.4
[05:22] <r00723r0> why would anyone use kubuntu?
[05:22] <coolkev> current is 1.5.0
[05:22] <zdennis> coolkev, that is why i upgraded to breezy =)
[05:22] <coolkev> breezy f*ed up my computer
[05:22] <jtan325> i have a twinview setup with my laptop and an lcd, but my lcd seems blurrier than when i do the same in windows. any ideas?
[05:23] <coolkev> i had to format today adn go back to haory
[05:23] <coolkev> and*
[05:23] <unkn0wn2u> zdennis, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=10157&file1=10157-1.png&file2=10157-2.png&file3=10157-3.png&name=KDevelop
[05:23] <zdennis> sweet, thanks unkn0wn2u
[05:23] <aeon17x> r00723r0,
[05:23] <cronik> a lil help here
[05:23] <aeon17x> because they like KDE?
[05:23] <zdennis> unkn0wn2u, do i have to run it in kde ?
[05:23] <zdennis> lol
[05:24] <unkn0wn2u> no
[05:24] <zdennis> sweet
[05:25] <fiend> can someone PLEASE help me
[05:25] <coolkev> fiend?
[05:25] <shawn__> i feel like an utter noob
[05:25] <zdennis> fiend, what is your problem?
[05:25] <fiend> i need to know how to get the codecs for the media player
[05:25] <shawn__> but i cant seem to acesss the internet with mozilla firefox
[05:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fiend about w32codecs
[05:25] <fiend> and someone linked me before but that was useless
[05:26] <zdennis> shawn__, can you access the internet w/o others browsers, or can you ping out?
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> shawn__, are you on that computer ?
[05:26] <|Beavis|> nalioth: do you know how to get the PCI Bus ID using LSPCI (Displayed as PCI:X:X:X, X= a number)
[05:26] <shawn__> well it works with irc lol
[05:26] <shawn__> ya
[05:27] <coolkev> who takes care of the main ubuntu repos? and where can i contact them?
[05:27] <wickedpuppy> i thought so too ... no proxy ?
[05:27] <zdennis> shawn__  are you going through a proxy?
[05:27] <nalioth> |Beavis|: have you tried "sudo lshw"?
[05:27] <psusi> nalioth: didn't you say you have to use a fakeroot to use w32codecs on amd64?
[05:27] <shawn__> no
[05:27] <cronik> i have a big pro,well,i just finish installing limewire and amule,limewire dosen"t wanna open wen i click on it and amule dosen"t wanna connet,i also get errors wen try to update my system,can any one help me with these errors?
[05:27] <|Beavis|> no, I will
[05:27] <wickedpuppy> shawn__, no google.com ?
[05:27] <shawn__> everything else works but gain and firefox
[05:27] <shawn__> ya no google
[05:27] <nalioth> psusi: i said a "chroot"
[05:27] <tehwa> shawn: DNS problem maybe?
[05:27] <|Beavis|> nalioth: it all flies by so fast
[05:27] <|Beavis|> I am in Recovery Mode
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> shawn__, can you ping the site ?
[05:28] <shawn__> but i can get the ubuntu home page but i think that comes installed
[05:28] <cronik> guys
[05:28] <coolkev> cronik: did you install java before hand?
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> yes thats in the disc
[05:28] <nalioth> |Beavis|: use "sudo lshw|less"
[05:28] <cronik> yall not gonna help this brother out
[05:28] <coolkev> cronik: limewire requires java to run
[05:28] <|Beavis|> thanks
[05:28] <shawn__> how do i do that
[05:28] <shawn__> and how do i type in red
[05:28] <cronik> how do i install jave
[05:28] <cronik> i think i did
[05:28] <Amaranth> shawn__: Like this?
[05:28] <shawn__> ya
[05:29] <coolkev> cronik: www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:29] <aeon17x> shawn__: I think you can also put tags around it.
[05:29] <coolkev> cronik: are you in breezy badger?
[05:29] <Amaranth> shawn__: It shows red for you because xchat highlights lines that have your nick in them
[05:29] <nalioth> coolkev: please dont blindly advise ubuntuguide
[05:29] <psusi> nalioth: err, yea... that link ubotu provides does not seem to mention chroot
[05:29] <Amaranth> This channel has colors disabled. All you can do is bold stuff. :)
[05:30] <jesse_> cronik: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81577
[05:30] <tehwa> shawn__: How are you connecting to the 'net? Gateway?
[05:30] <jesse_> cronik: im assuming you need java
[05:30] <coolkev> nalioth: It is why i asked him is he on breezy
[05:30] <shawn__> directly
[05:30] <nalioth> psusi: i'm not sure how to set up a chroot environment (but there are wiki articles
[05:30] <shawn__> and somtimes it loads after a LONG time
[05:30] <D1> man
[05:30] <D1> abiword kicks ass
[05:30] <jesse_> coolkev: ubuntuguide solves many problems, regardless of branch
[05:30] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[05:30] <D1> thanks for whoever made me reconsider it.
[05:30] <tehwa> so that's ethernet -> Modem -> Router
[05:30] <shawn__> like i got a little of sourceforge before i stopped it
[05:30] <thesilentkiller> D1: have u tried OpenOffice? Do you think AbiWord is better?
[05:30] <aeon17x> jesse_: ubuntuguide also breaks a lot of stuff if you don't know what you're doing with it.
[05:31] <D1> I have tried openoffice
[05:31] <jesse_> aeon17x: agreed, but thats why it should come with advice
[05:31] <nalioth> jesse_: ubuntuguide also causes many problems, regardless of branch
[05:31] <D1> but abiword does all I need it to do
[05:31] <D1> and its tons faster
[05:31] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone know how to assign a program to run when a specific key is pressed?
[05:31] <thesilentkiller> D1: i c. i shud check it out too. thanks.
[05:31] <jesse_> nalioth: specific advice is the key
[05:31] <tehwa> shawn__: do you connect through a router?
[05:31] <D1> I just type papers for school
[05:31] <D1> and it does its job
[05:31] <coolkev> jesse_: Thanks for telling me but I know, i was telling nalioth that i told cronik about the site because it offers help on limewire and other things, and nalioth said won't recomend the site blindly for no reason
[05:31] <GullyFoyle> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142 for a java installatio how-to
[05:31] <jtan325> i have a twinview setup with my laptop and an lcd, but my lcd seems blurrier than when i do the same in windows. any ideas?
[05:31] <shawn__> W00t I GOTS TEH GOOGLE
[05:31] <dm> Usaing gnomebaker right, but i get a Permission Denied when trying to burn a CD
[05:31] <shawn__> i dont know why but it just worked
[05:32] <shawn__> 1 sec i will now tedt it
[05:32] <shawn__> test
[05:32] <dm> should i Sudo Gnomebaker?
[05:32] <nalioth> coolkev: when you advise it, do ubuntuguide.com/#Limewire or whatever, is all i ask. we have lots of new users who may not know about the 'guides road to ruination
[05:32] <Bachus9000> I own a Compaqs Presario 2199US laptop.  It has VGA out and USB.  I'd like to connect it to a KVM switch and clone its display on a second monitor.  This mostly works out of the box, but I'm not sure how to adjust the refresh rate--the default is 60 Hz and I'd like to bump that up to 85 Hz.  Would it be possible to have separate settings for the laptop LCD and the external monitor?  (The graphics card is a Radeon Mobility--
[05:32] <Bachus9000> no number like 7500 or 9550 is listed, so I don't know what specific model it is)
[05:32] <aeon17x> Is installing winetools a good idea? It says something about being unable to authenticate itself.
[05:33] <coolkev> nalioth: only a complete idiot will not see the options layed out on the site
[05:33] <jesse_> coolkev: its ok, i understand
[05:33] <jesse_> coolkev: i just wish the guide was updated NOW! :)
[05:34] <cronik> cronik@ool-457729ad:~$ sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
[05:34] <cronik> Password:
[05:34] <cronik> cronik@ool-457729ad:~$ sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:34] <cronik> cronik@ool-457729ad:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[05:34] <cronik> Reading package lists... Done
[05:34] <cronik> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:34] <cronik> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:34] <aeon17x> !tell cronik about pastebin
[05:34] <jesse_> oh my
[05:34] <jesse_> pastebun for the win
[05:34] <jesse_> bin*
[05:35] <fiend> how do i instal programs? i know i need to compilebut thats all i know
[05:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fiend about synaptic
[05:35] <nalioth> cronik: please dont paste in here
[05:35] <jesse_> fiend: what program specifically, do you have a tar file?
[05:35] <cronik> ok
[05:35] <cronik> sorry
[05:35] <aeon17x> pastebun... that's a new one.
[05:35] <jesse_> rofl
[05:35] <jesse_> its a pastry
[05:35] <cronik> but did u see the error?
[05:35] <EnsignRedshirt> Is it even possible to assign a keyboard shortcut to run a specific program?  I can also use alt-F2 and type in the command, but it would be slick if I could run the program with just a key press.
[05:36] <EnsignRedshirt> s/also use/always use/
[05:36] <nalioth> cronik: open a terminal
[05:36] <cronik> ok
[05:36] <nalioth> cronik: type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:36] <jesse_> fiend:  ?????
[05:36] <caonex> I have upgraded from hoary to breezy and i have issued the command dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-<version> which should make the splash screen work. I have also check for the splash parameter in grub and it is there. However, i am still unable to see the graphic ubuntu loading, how so?
[05:36] <Amaranth> EnsignRedshirt: It probably envolves playing in gconf-editor (Applications->System Tools->Configuration) but I think it's doable.
[05:36] <jtan325> i have a twinview setup with my laptop and an lcd, but my lcd seems blurrier than when i do the same in windows. any ideas?
[05:36] <Amaranth> EnsignRedshirt: It'd either be under /apps/metacity or /apps/nautilus
[05:37] <cronik> a window pop up
[05:37] <EnsignRedshirt> Amaranth: Ugh... gconf-editor.  :)
[05:37] <EnsignRedshirt> Amaranth: ... I'll take a look.
[05:37] <nalioth> cronik: in that window, find the lines that have 'breezy-backports' in them and put a # at the beginning of those lines
[05:38] <jesse_> who wants to see enlightenment 17 inside gnome, as per the ubuntu post?
[05:38] <jesse_> i have a screenshot which really shows off what ive got going on
[05:38] <cronik> it got one already,should i put another one
[05:39] <jesse_> well, here it is anyway!
[05:39] <abdllah> hay guys, any topic about programing under gnome?
[05:39] <nalioth> cronik: you should have 2 lines with breezy-backports in them, make sure theres a # in front of both
[05:39] <jesse_> http://www.eng.utoledo.edu/~jbrown/102805.png
[05:39] <cronik> ok
[05:40] <auk> anyone here play atomix?
[05:40] <nalioth> jesse_: keep that stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:40] <danl> whats a good app to automatically detect wireless networks you have keys for and connect?
[05:40] <abdllah> hay guys, any topic about programing under gnome?
[05:41] <nalioth> abdllah: we are not ignoring you, please wait about 5 minutes between repeating
[05:41] <jesse_> nalioth: sorry, i didnt know about that channel! thanks!
[05:42] <mushtaq> hi i am trying to connect webmin in  my ubuntu box
[05:42] <mushtaq> but it is giving the error
[05:42] <mushtaq> error access denied
[05:42] <cronik> yea ,the 2 of them got the # onthem
[05:42] <EnsignRedshirt> Amaranth: Looks like there might be something in metacity.  What keys would command_1 through command_12 be?  Looks like something to do with the function keys.
[05:42] <mushtaq> this was a default installation with apt-get install
[05:42] <mushtaq> do i need to make some changes after installation
[05:42] <nalioth> cronik: save it, and run "sudo apt-get update"
[05:43] <mushtaq> i used both http://computername:10000
[05:43] <mushtaq> https://computername:10000
[05:43] <Amaranth> EnsignRedshirt: Sorry, I don't know. Don't they have a description?
[05:43] <cronik> it was like that,i did not had to change anything bcuz it already had it
[05:44] <cronik> i get the same error
[05:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cronik about paste
[05:45] <nalioth> cronik: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin?
[05:45] <EnsignRedshirt> Amaranth: Not exactly... maybe I'm supposed to just know what command_1 means...  I'm doing some trial-and-error testing now.
[05:45] <intelikey> hmm some reason i lost my mouse on restart.....    gpm is still there and called from /etc/rc3.d  so i don't know why it didn't fire up this time.....
[05:45] <cronik> how can i do that?
[05:45] <mushtaq> neone using webmin ? can help me ?
[05:46] <cronik> im sorry but im noob
[05:46] <steve___> anyone in here use multi-gnome-terminal?
[05:46] <EnsignRedshirt> Amaranth: might have found something... not that you really care at this point :)
[05:46] <Amaranth> EnsignRedshirt: Hey, it'll help me out too. :)
[05:46] <djjason> is it possible to disable the usplash or whatever it is called and just get the old "linux" boot screen
[05:46] <caonex> I have upgraded from hoary to breezy and i have issued the command dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-<version> which should make the splash screen work. I have also check for the splash parameter in grub and it is there. However, i am still unable to see the graphic ubuntu loading, how so?
[05:46] <nalioth> cronik: open your terminal and type "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list". copy it and paste it at the pastebin URL ubotu sent you
[05:46] <cronik> o
[05:46] <cronik> ok
[05:46] <nalioth> cronik: when you are done, bring us the URL to the pastebin
[05:46] <Amaranth> !usplash
[05:46] <ubotu> methinks usplash is for your information, about Usplash : if you use a home-built kernel, required options are initramfs & framebuffer, that's all ... don't take any prerequisites used for bootsplash or patches in consideration
[05:47] <Amaranth> hrm, that's not helpful at _all_
[05:47] <P8ntKid> How come when i try to watch a wmv file in xine it shows a black screen but it plays the sound?
[05:47] <Amaranth> caonex: You need to regenerate your initramfs or something, let me find the commands.
[05:47] <cronik> done
[05:47] <cronik> can u see it?
[05:47] <cens0red> hi. How do I set up the environment variables ($PATH, $JAVA_HOME, etc) for the package sun-j2re1.5 ?
[05:48] <cronik> done
[05:48] <cronik> check it out
[05:48] <nalioth> cronik: what is the URL?
[05:48] <caonex> Amaranth, wow thanks
[05:48] <DavidTangye> Hi all. Anyone running openoffice 2 on ubuntu? (not the 1.9 release)
[05:48] <Vaske_Car> Hey gents is there any Linux aplication that can help me gain remote access to clients PCs?
[05:48] <Exiles> okay, need abit of help, set my screen resolution to low, and it screwed up after I seved it
[05:48] <intelikey> cronik you need to give the url when you use pastebin
[05:48] <Exiles> how do I fix it
[05:48] <nalioth> P8ntKid: new variant wmv codec
[05:48] <P8ntKid> nalioth: ?
[05:48] <cronik> Please don't paste useless stuff, such as ascii art or the nicks in #flood | If you abuse this channel, you will be banned temporarily | Remove comments from lengthy files (ex: grep -v '^#' file) | For large amounts of text, consider a paste site (like http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://channels.debian.net/paste/), or a separate channel | Problems? /msg yossarian, dondelelcaro, UdontKnow, alindeman, RichiH or complain in #freenode
[05:49] <nalioth> P8ntKid: newer codec microsoft media wont work no matter what you do
[05:49] <cronik> well
[05:49] <cronik> i went to a room call #flood
[05:49] <|Beavis|> crimsun: You here?
[05:49] <nalioth> cronik: you need to tell us which method you are gonna use
[05:49] <P8ntKid> nalioth: wmv files play fine in the firefox mplayer plugin
[05:49] <intelikey> oh....  :)
[05:50] <|Beavis|> Nalioth: Thank you for your support
[05:50] <|Beavis|> Please let Crimsun know I said thank you, if I don't see him
[05:50] <Amaranth> caonex: Hrm, I can't find anything. What does uname -r return?
[05:50] <cronik> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3778
[05:50] <cronik> there is the link
[05:50] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car: vnc?
[05:51] <Exiles> okay, I messed up my gnome config and need help fixing it
[05:51] <Vaske_Car> You mean RealVNC?
[05:51] <Exiles> it sets my screen res to low
[05:51] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car: there is a default vncviewer pre-installed, i think.
[05:52] <caonex> Amaranth, 2.6.12-9-k7
[05:52] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car: type vncviewer on a terminal
[05:52] <Vaske_Car> I know for RealVNC but I need something that will install via ActiveX to customer PC so they dont need to have preinstalled aplication
[05:53] <Amaranth> caonex: I'd say trying running mkinitramfs but it might make your system unbootable (at least with that kernel).
[05:53] <Amaranth> caonex: There may or may not be command line arguments you need to give it, all I can find is people saying to run that command.
[05:53] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car: beats me. sorry.
[05:54] <Vaske_Car> For example they enter my website and request help, after that aplication load and ask them to accept remote access and than install required part of remote access software...
[05:54] <EnsignRedshirt> Amaranth: OK, this works: in /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands, the values are the actual commands to run.  In /apps/metacity/global_keybindings, the values are the keys to be assigned.  So, for example, to make <Alt>F11 run gimp, you can assign the value gimp to command_1 in keybinding_commands, and assign the value <Alt>F11 to run_command_1 in global_keybindings.  Phew...
[05:54] <Turner> It seems when I do a apt-cache search vlc it doesn't come up with anything.. I'm trying to install videolan
[05:54] <Amaranth> EnsignRedshirt: Holy crap.
[05:55] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car:  i would say its very intrusive to do that in the first place. you have good intentions. what if someone has evil intentions. if a user accidentally presses "ok" to something, and the evil guy can see everything.......wudnt be nice. so backtracking from there, i am not sure whether you can install an application that way. i might be wrong.
[05:55] <Amaranth> EnsignRedshirt: If a decent UI for that doesn't exist I might have to make one.
[05:55] <caonex> Amaranth, how about usplash?
[05:55] <aeon17x> !usplash
[05:55] <ubotu> from memory, usplash is for your information, about Usplash : if you use a home-built kernel, required options are initramfs & framebuffer, that's all ... don't take any prerequisites used for bootsplash or patches in consideration
[05:55] <caonex> Amaranth, the package, what if it is purge and reinstalled
[05:55] <cens0red> hi. How do I set up the environment variables ($PATH, $JAVA_HOME, etc) for the package sun-j2re1.5 ?
[05:55] <caonex> Amaranth, purged*
[05:55] <Amaranth> caonex: Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash
[05:55] <Vaske_Car> thesilentkiller it is teoretically possible to install enything via ActiveX
[05:56] <Amaranth> caonex: I had this problem too, either that fixed it or installing the i386 kernel did.
[05:56] <EnsignRedshirt> Amaranth: Let me know when you finish :)  I think whoever wrote gconf-editor simply stuck a gui on their raw linked list C data structures.
[05:56] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car: hmm....
[05:56] <Amaranth> caonex: since the i386 kernel got a new initramfs made for it
[05:56] <caonex> cens0red, export PATH=whaterver, i think
[05:56] <Vaske_Car> I need free solution that can go via HTTP so they dont have to configure firewall etc.
[05:56] <P8ntKid> Ok, how can i make firefox open wmv files in firefox to use mplayer? Like, if i want to watch a movie on say www.putfile.com it plays fine. But if i click a link that ends in .wmv it tries to open xine. Is there any way i can make it play it in a new firefox tab/window?
[05:56] <cens0red> caonex how do I set it up so it's automatically configured whenever I boot up?
[05:56] <Xeromem> anyone know how to get a Logitech MX510 working properly?
[05:56] <Amaranth> EnsignRedshirt: gconf-editor is a UI on top of gedit, a registry like thing
[05:56] <Amaranth> EnsignRedshirt: Like the Windows registry, but without the suck.
[05:57] <caonex> cens0red, put that line in the /etc/bashrc
[05:57] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car: hmm. i get what u r saying. but beats me. sorry.
[05:57] <nalioth> Turner: enable universe and multiverse
[05:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Turner about repos
[05:57] <caonex> cens0red, or /etc/profile
[05:57] <cens0red> caonex < < < < < < thank you  > > > > > >
[05:57] <caonex> cens0red, i am not sure, which one, but read the files and you will see what each one is for
[05:58] <EnsignRedshirt> Amaranth: I've never dealt with Windows registry.  If you mean gconf-editor is better, I'm glad I never had to.
[05:58] <Amaranth> EnsignRedshirt: I mean gconf is better. gconf-editor just shows you the trees that gedit stores so you can look at them and tweak them manually
[05:58] <Amaranth> EnsignRedshirt: It's actually usually not that complex to change something in there.
[05:59] <caonex> Amaranth, so you recomend doing usplash reconfigure and upgrading to the most recent kernel which comes with its own initramfs?
[06:00] <EnsignRedshirt> Amaranth: As a gnome neophyte, I find gconf painful to work with.  apps? schemas? system?
[06:00] <Amaranth> EnsignRedshirt: You'll only ever go into apps
[06:00] <haemin> does anyone know if korean translation will improve soon?
[06:01] <calamari> hi
[06:01] <Turner> thanks, ubotu
[06:01] <Turner> lol
[06:01] <Amaranth> caonex: Well, if you want a k7 kernel and usplash either run mkinitramfs or install an i386 kernel, boot to it, purge and reinstall the k7 one, and reboot with it.
[06:01] <EnsignRedshirt> Amaranth: Ah, that's good to know... but it isn't obvious.  A friendlier interface for the typical dumb user like me would be nice.
[06:01] <calamari> does anyone know how to use rar to create a multivolume archive?
[06:01] <whaley> I'm trying to install NVIDIA drivers, the manual way by using the binary file provided by Nvidia.  However, everytime it installs correctly, but not with my 686 kernel.  It was working my 386 kernel, but I uninstalled it.  How can I ensure that binary file will install with my 686 kernel? Thanks.
[06:01] <haemin> i want to deploy ubuntu over redhat 9 for my corperate network but right now korean translation not being so good.
[06:01] <caonex> Amaranth, i have another kernel install an i386
[06:01] <P8ntKid> Where is a place that i can read all the commands to file browsing in a terminal? Like using the cd/ls/mkdir commands?
[06:01] <Amaranth> EnsignRedshirt: You're not supposed to mess around in there unless you're tweaking advanced settings.
[06:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell P8ntKid about cli
[06:01] <Amaranth> caonex: purge it and reinstall it, then boot to it
[06:01] <P8ntKid> Ok, how can i make firefox open wmv files in firefox to use mplayer? Like, if i want to watch a movie on say www.putfile.com it plays fine. But if i click a link that ends in .wmv it tries to open xine. Is there any way i can make it play it in a new firefox tab/window?
[06:01] <caonex> Amaranth, so in this case just need to do reconfigure of usplash and try booting with both kernels
[06:01] <Amaranth> caonex: That too.
[06:02] <caonex> Amaranth, ok it makes sense
[06:02] <Amaranth> caonex: I'm not sure what I did that actually made it work.
[06:02] <caonex> Amaranth, is it cute?
[06:02] <jaramillo> hi there, how can i remove firefox's totem-plugin ? it isn't at ~/.mozilla/plugins
[06:02] <P8ntKid> jaramillo: No, i think its in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[06:02] <P8ntKid> jaramillo: But im not totally sure.
[06:02] <calamari> does anyone know how to use rar to create a multivolume archive?
[06:02] <Amaranth> caonex: Because I had a prerelease kernel and used a CD to upgrade so the only kernel I could get to work was the i386 one from the CD.
[06:03] <jaramillo> k ;-)
[06:03] <Amaranth> caonex: usplash? it's awesome
[06:03] <Amaranth> caonex: Let me find a screenshot.
[06:03] <_jason> P8ntKid:  what version of firefox are you using
[06:03] <EnsignRedshirt> Amaranth: Anyway, thanks for the pointer in the right direction.  Time to go.  Ciao.
[06:04] <caonex> Amaranth, i am just going to upgrade the i386 to latest version
[06:04] <caonex> 2.6.12, Amaranth
[06:04] <P8ntKid> _jason: 1.0.7
[06:04] <caonex> Amaranth, i have been looking for one and have not find it.
[06:04] <Amaranth> caonex: -9, iirc
[06:05] <_jason> P8ntKid:  ok in 1.5 I am able to get mplayer to open wmv files in tabs by going to repferences -> download actions.  I don't know if it will work for 1.0.7 but you can try
[06:05] <_jason> P8ntKid:  jsut select the file type and choose "change action" then "use this plugin" ->mplayer (if it is the same in 1.0.7)
[06:06] <Vaske_Car> thesilentkiller: http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:d0ab5Z8oV-8J:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VNC+vnc&hl=en
[06:06] <Amaranth> caonex: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/469_or/2.png
[06:06] <Amaranth> caonex: What you can't see on that screenshot is the reflection the ubuntu logo has.
[06:07] <apokryphos> can't help but see that as just an embedded coloured terminal :P
[06:07] <caonex> Amaranth, wow, it is nice, does it appear in the live version?
[06:07] <apokryphos> yup
[06:07] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car: what is it that u want me to read there? on clicking the link, it took me to wikipedia VNC page
[06:07] <P8ntKid> _jason: I dont have anything in that box. But if i click the Plug-Ins button thats when all the file types pop up.
[06:07] <caonex> Amaranth, i want to ask you a question: have you ever dealt with laptops and vga=771 or =0?
[06:07] <Amaranth> apokryphos: It's the little bit of polish that makes Ubuntu nicer to use.
[06:08] <caonex> Amaranth, in order to get the display to work?
[06:08] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car: i have a feeling that i didnt get the page that you wanted me to see
[06:08] <Amaranth> caonex: I've never owned a laptop.
[06:08] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car: cuz, there was a redirection
[06:08] <cronik> how can i unistall limewire
[06:08] <caonex> Amaranth, what i luck, I have one and i cant get it to use the vesafb driver that it needs to boot with usplash because linux does not boot without it
[06:09] <jtan325> i have a twinview setup with my laptop and an lcd, but my lcd seems blurrier than when i do the same in windows. any ideas?
[06:09] <Vaske_Car> thesilentkiller: this is probably not new for you
[06:09] <caonex> Amaranth, be right back, let me test it.
[06:09] <lsald> cronik, just delete it
[06:10] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car: i thought u were giving me a link which had info on how to install vnc thru http.....anyway, thanks for the link. i will read it. nice of u.
[06:11] <P8ntKid> cd
[06:12] <nalioth> lsald: one correct answer is "use synaptic"
[06:12] <Vaske_Car> thesilentkiller: http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/ this one work with java... im currently reading this
[06:12] <Vaske_Car> thesilentkiller: If you provide computer support, you can easy access your customer's computers from anywhere in the world and resolve helpdesk issues remotely ! Your customers don't have to pre-install software or execute complex procedures to get remote helpdesk support. UltraVNC allows you to remotely control a computer over any TCP/IP connection.
[06:12] <alekz> how can i add the volume control to notification area ?
[06:12] <P8ntKid> _jason: >>
[06:12] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car: i spose u want to use Ubuntu. but i've used remote desktop sharing in windows and it worked very well. but the downside is, u need to have xp pro
[06:13] <nalioth> alekz: right click the panel
[06:13] <P8ntKid> _jason: ??*
[06:13] <moo> why is there no mplayer package for ubuntu, and why does the wiki not have an mplayer entry?
[06:13] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car: that seems to be a perfect fit for u!
[06:13] <Vaske_Car> :)
[06:13] <_jason> P8ntKid:  that's how it is in 1.5, if it isn't similar in 1.0.7 then idk
[06:13] <Vaske_Car> I want to use UBUNTU as viewer ;)
[06:13] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car: nice find!
[06:13] <xiaogil> how to install skype on breezy, there a dependance problem...
[06:14] <thesilentkiller> Vaske_Car: it says UltraVNC runs on windows variants only....is that ok for u?
[06:15] <lsald> nalioth, x86 has a package :)
[06:15] <Vaske_Car> no
[06:16] <moo> why is there no mplayer package for ubuntu, and why does the wiki not have an mplayer entry?
[06:16] <moo> anyone
[06:16] <ubuntu> dan
[06:16] <_jason> ubotu:  tell moo about mplayer
[06:17] <moo> thanks
[06:17] <moo> you guys might want to add that to the wiki
[06:17] <moo> its not in the list
[06:17] <_jason> moo:  which list?
[06:18] <moo> the main wiki
[06:18] <moo> UserDocumentation or whatever
[06:18] <ubuntu> kewl
[06:18] <moo> i checked before coming here
[06:18] <_jason> moo:  oh I see
[06:19] <_jason> moo:  you can try the search box in the top corner to save some time too
[06:19] <moo> ok
[06:19] <moo> so search turns up stuff not in the main list huh
[06:19] <moo> good to know...
[06:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell moo about repos
[06:20] <moo> yeah yeah, i figured that out from the 1st link
[06:20] <nalioth> moo: enable universe and multiverse, and then your synaptic or apt-get can find all the programs
[06:21] <moo> ok
[06:21] <moo> i have both of those enabled and mplayer still isnt under multimedia in synaptic
[06:21] <moo> but its in apt...
[06:21] <moo> weird
[06:21] <moo> bug?
[06:22] <Amaranth> moo: Don't trust the categories.
[06:22] <moo> heh ok
[06:22] <nalioth> moo: you should use the "search" function in synaptic
[06:24] <moo> ok new question
[06:24] <moo> how do i make firefox play mpg?
[06:24] <jldugger> synaptic really needs a faster method to dist-upgrade
[06:24] <moo> i thought installing mplayer would do it but it doesnt, and i cant drag and drop like in windows
[06:24] <moo> it says i need a plugin, but not which one
[06:25] <jldugger> instead of changing repos by hand =/
[06:25] <Amaranth> moo: mplayer-mozilla or mozilla-mplayer, can't remember the name
[06:25] <moo> gotcha
[06:25] <Amaranth> jldugger: There was discussion of putting a package in hoary-updates to change your sources.list to breezy to make things easier.
[06:25] <Amaranth> jldugger: I guess it never happened.
[06:26] <jldugger> Amaranth, that actually had just occurred to me
[06:26] <Kalidarn> where do i go to request new packages to be added to the main ubuntu repo?
[06:26] <Kalidarn> do i mail a particular mailing list?
[06:26] <moo> still doesnt work....do i need to reboot?
[06:26] <jldugger> Kalidarn, if it's not in universe, you'll probaly need to go through debian first
[06:26] <moo> i have mozilla-mplayer install
[06:27] <Kalidarn> it is, in debian
[06:27] <Amaranth> moo: Should work then, unles you need to restart firefox.
[06:27] <Kalidarn> but id like it to be implimeted into dapper
[06:27] <matw> hi all, anyone know how to get swat up on breezy?
[06:27] <Kalidarn> as im testing dapper now
[06:27] <moo> i did.....it does seem to crash firefox tho
[06:27] <Kalidarn> xubuntu to be exact, what im referrign to is X-Chat 2.4.5
[06:27] <Amaranth> Kalidarn: If it's in Debian it'll get into dapper automatically, as far as I know.
[06:27] <Amaranth> Kalidarn: What is it?
[06:27] <Kalidarn> rather than 2.4.4
[06:27] <Kalidarn> ah ok
[06:27] <Kalidarn> irc client
[06:27] <moo> it says totem could not play it
[06:27] <moo> why isnt it using mplayer? how do i change it
[06:28] <Amaranth> moo: hrm, you need to get rid of totem's player (or install totem-xine)
[06:28] <moo> ok
[06:28] <Amaranth> totem's plugin, rather
[06:28] <Kalidarn> but the reason why 2.4.4 is annoying is because the .xchat (when config folder when implimented from 2.4.5f from windows) puts weird characters infront of the servers thefore each time you take your 2.4.5f confs back from windows to your 2.4.4 conf dir in ubuntu it screws up unless you edit the servers and take out that bad character
[06:28] <jldugger> Kalidarn, that should get upgraded automatically, given that it's already in main.
[06:29] <Vaske_Car> Anybody got link to see new features in Brezzy?
[06:29] <Kalidarn> with 2.4.5f and 2.4.5 on linux (as i got it from the debian repo) it worked fine fixing this problem
[06:29] <Kalidarn> yeah it was out before breezy got into final
[06:29] <Kalidarn> and it wasnt updated
[06:29] <Amaranth> Kalidarn: Ah, X-Chat (i'm running it now, i just didn't see you say it before :)
[06:29] <jldugger> i donno when or how often they sync dapper
[06:29] <matw> Anyone know how to run swat up on breezy? What I used on hoary doesn't work now.
[06:29] <Kalidarn> :)
[06:29] <robotgeek> Vaske_Car: it's mostly the old stuff, but it works better now :)
[06:29] <jldugger> your best bet is probably to file a bug
[06:29] <Kalidarn> everyone uses xchat
[06:29] <Kalidarn> or irssi ;)
[06:29] <Vaske_Car> should I update?
[06:29] <Vaske_Car> ;)
[06:29] <robotgeek> Vaske_Car: o yeah!
[06:30] <moo> ok, i did apt-get remove totem and mozilla is still trying to use it rather than mplayer, i didnt see a totem plugin package under synaptic multimedia
[06:30] <moo> what am i missing?
[06:30] <Vaske_Car> can i update it via update feature in 5.0.4?
[06:30] <Kalidarn> also some of the newbies i know would like to see the latest JRE runtimes and Azureus
[06:30] <Kalidarn> as Azureus can be a bit of a bitch to install
[06:30] <GullyFoyle>  i'm not using x-chat :)
[06:30] <robotgeek> !upgrade
[06:30] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:30] <Vaske_Car> im using Opera chat
[06:30] <Amaranth> Kalidarn: I'd say stop copying profiles from linux to windows and back. :) But since the package is in sid and in ubuntu now it should get automatically updated sometime after the conference.
[06:30] <Kalidarn> hehe
[06:30] <Vaske_Car> thanks
[06:31] <GullyFoyle> i'm using nirc and i often use good ole fashioned bitchx
[06:31] <Vaske_Car> Ubuntu should implement Opera as default browser ;)  Opera is free now
[06:31] <Kalidarn> Amaranth: it is necessary to copy from windows to linux and it is interchangable, thats what makes it such a great multiplatform client
[06:31] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: have you tried rufus, it's pretty neat
[06:31] <Kalidarn> i like my logs to append in the order i used it
[06:31] <robotgeek> Vaske_Car: it's free as in beer
[06:31] <deFrysk> Vaske_Car, but not open
[06:31] <moo> ok
[06:31] <GullyFoyle> opera is not open-source so many ppl are morally opposed to using it
[06:31] <moo> can anyone help me get mpg files to play from firefox without downloading and opening them
[06:31] <Kalidarn> and it works fine, except the old version, i do have the knowhow to get the 2.4.5 version from the debian repo though, im just wondering why it isn
[06:31] <Kalidarn> t in ubuntu yet
[06:31] <Kalidarn> and its been out for aggges
[06:32] <Amaranth> Although I'm not too excited about the treeview for servers and channels, I'm sure I'll get used to it though.
[06:32] <Kalidarn> mm no i have to use either mIRC, X-Chat or IRSSI
[06:32] <intelikey> Kalidarn you could script that moving so that it uses something like "tr" to "translate" the odd chars for you.
[06:32] <Vaske_Car> Opera will become open source one day for sure! They only way for them to beat competition
[06:32] <matw> How can I get swat to run on breezy?
[06:32] <robotgeek> well, i'll just stick to good old irssi
[06:32] <moo> even a way to drag and drop mpg files from firefox to a media player would work
[06:32] <Kalidarn> because i use the FiSH script and its only around for those 3 programs
[06:32] <moo> i just want something..
[06:32] <GullyFoyle> i like opera anyway, blazin fast
[06:32] <moo> please...
[06:33] <deFrysk> Vaske_Car, I would not bet on it
[06:33] <moo> is there paid support availible for ubuntu?
[06:33] <Kalidarn> well anyway if there was a package request mailing list it would be good i think
[06:33] <robotgeek> let's just wait for ff 1.5, i heard the beta is very fast
[06:33] <Kalidarn> moo for enterprise customers it think thereis some package you can pay for support
[06:33] <moo> any idea on the monthly cost?
[06:33] <Kalidarn> im pretty sure there is
[06:33] <Kalidarn> dunno :P
[06:34] <Mabus06> moo you don't live in england do you?
[06:34] <moo> usa...
[06:34] <Mabus06> ok
[06:34] <Kalidarn> ah here we go
[06:34] <Kalidarn> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5928.html
[06:34] <Kalidarn>  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/paidsupport
[06:34] <Mabus06> just a friend of mine from england uses the alias Moo and is a heavy IRC user. nm then. ;-)
[06:34] <moo>  The item you requested does not exist on this server or cannot be served.
[06:34] <moo> thx tho..
[06:35] <Kalidarn> hmm
[06:35] <jldugger> Kalidarn, given that what you really want is a new version of a package already provided, maybe file a bug reguarding 2.4.5 not being packaged
[06:35] <Kalidarn> moo im checking out the page now
[06:35] <Vaske_Car> I just received today 5.0.4 CD's that I ordered 2 months ago ;)
[06:35] <moo> heh
[06:35] <moo> is there a linux for windows users
[06:35] <Kalidarn> jldugger: its not a bug with 2.4.5
[06:35] <Vaske_Car> Already shared most of them with friends ;)
[06:35] <jldugger> Kalidarn, its a bug with the xchat package ;)
[06:36] <nalioth> moo: ubuntu
[06:36] <Kalidarn> lol 404 http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/paidsupport (you might want to do something about that)
[06:36] <moo> lol
[06:36] <moo> windows users expect to be able to play an mpeg from their browser without fucking around
[06:36] <Turner> dont irc as root!
[06:36] <moo> no offense but it shouldnt be this difficult
[06:36] <intelikey> moo he's not jokeing
[06:36] <Kalidarn> yeah mplayer is wonderful
[06:36] <moo> and i cant even drag and drop with firefox, something that works in windows
[06:36] <Kalidarn> with that web browser plugin
[06:36] <Kalidarn> seriously i found totem sucked cawk
[06:37] <apokryphos> Kalidarn: the page says what you should do, exactly 8)
[06:37] <caonex> Amaranth, do you happen to have an nvidia card?
[06:37] <Amaranth> moo: That has nothing to do with Linux, it's up to the apps.
[06:37] <wickedpuppy> moo, how do you play anything in widows without codecs ?
[06:37] <flexgrip> can someone help me out with a couple of questions... im new to ubuntu
[06:37] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: try installing totem-xine, and the codecs
[06:37] <Amaranth> caonex: Nope, I have a trusty old Radeon 7000.
[06:37] <moo> you dont. why do you ask?
[06:37] <Kalidarn> apokryphos: that maybe true but having 404 errors ;) isn't particually conducive to business
[06:37] <Turner> vlc media player will allow you to play stuff without installign the codecs
[06:37] <LoneWolf071> if i download telnetd, is it part of inetd or xinetd or just stand alone
[06:37] <apokryphos> Kalidarn: which is where you come in to help rectify the situation ;-)
[06:37] <caonex> Amaranth, after reinstall for some reason it wont detect my card. I have the modules loaded and everything, but X wont start.
[06:38] <Kalidarn> lol apokryphos im not the site admin
[06:38] <Kalidarn> :)
[06:38] <wickedpuppy> thats my point ... windows by itself is shit ... btw vlc is also available for linux
[06:38] <flexgrip> I have ubuntu 5.10 and my dvd drive wont automount/unmount
[06:38] <Amaranth> caonex: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:38] <apokryphos> Kalidarn: yes, but you presumably possess the power to inform the site admin (as the page suggests)
[06:38] <nalioth> gentlemen and ladies, can we watch our language please?
[06:38] <Kalidarn> yes im doing that now :)
[06:38] <Amaranth> caonex: I think that'll make X use the non-3D driver though, so you'll have to change it back afterward.
[06:38] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/supportoptions/support/supportoptions/paidsupport/
[06:38] <moo> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat  doesnt say anything about not using curse words...
[06:39] <moo> put something in the topic about it
[06:39] <Kalidarn> hmm okat
[06:39] <moo> i try to obey irc chan rules
[06:39] <moo> but if the rule doesnt exist...
[06:39] <robotgeek> !tell moo about conduct
[06:39] <Kalidarn> ah the link just changed from the thead
[06:39] <flexgrip> when i hit eject it wont open unless i umount it...
[06:39] <Kalidarn> moo: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/supportoptions/support/supportoptions/paidsupport/
[06:39] <Amaranth> It doesn't have to. ;)
[06:39] <moo> ok
[06:39] <nalioth> moo: vulgarity is not acceptable in any society that i'm aware of, be it electronic or otherwise
[06:39] <moo> heh ok
[06:39] <Amaranth> dang this lag is bad.
[06:39] <moo> but um
[06:39] <moo> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[06:40] <moo> doesnt say anything about cursing..
[06:40] <LoneWolf071> if i download telnetd, is it part of inetd or xinetd or just stand alone
[06:40] <nalioth> moo: do they allow cursing in your local school room?
[06:40] <moo> is this a school room?
[06:40] <apokryphos> moo: so what? Etiquette is often unspoken without clear rules. It would be absurd for us to make a rigid list of all acecptable behaviour
[06:40] <GullyFoyle> what a load
[06:40] <Amaranth> moo: Swearing is impolite and offends people.
[06:40] <apokryphos> moo: no, but it is an IRC channel; and yes, IRC channels emulate life in many ways.
[06:40] <moo> right
[06:41] <flexgrip> having cd drive issues. can someone HElp?
[06:41] <BeGu> maybe "be respectful" means no cursing?
[06:41] <caonex> Amaranth, just did your suggestions and still saying "No screens found" i did not restart, do i have to?
[06:41] <moo> ok well thats fine im just looking for help getting mpg files working in firefox...........cant seem to get anywhere
[06:41] <Amaranth> caonex: No, you shouldn't have to.
[06:41] <uniscript> anyone know how to turn of ipv6?
[06:41] <apokryphos> moo: did you install mplayer-mozilla or whatever it is?
[06:41] <moo> yep
[06:41] <robotgeek> flexgrip: try putting the drive mount applet in your panel, it's very helpful
[06:41] <GullyFoyle> make channel #ubuntu-MA, mature language allowed
[06:42] <Amaranth> GullyFoyle: You're free to make it.
[06:42] <caonex> Amaranth, that is what i thought.. hmm... this is weird.
[06:42] <flexgrip> robot - whats the name of it? can i use synaptics to get it?
[06:42] <moo> mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version.
[06:42] <moo> but it still trise to use totem
[06:42] <moo> even though totem is uninstalled...
[06:42] <robotgeek> flexgrip: right click and add to panel
[06:42] <LoneWolf071> if i download telnetd, is it part of inetd or xinetd or just stand alone
[06:42] <jldugger> moo, did you close out of all mozilla windows yet?
[06:42] <apokryphos> moo: restarted firefox? I find it hard to believe that it's not working if you really do have the mozilla-mplayer package...
[06:43] <moo> yes
[06:43] <moo> i promise i restarted firebox
[06:43] <moo> and i promise i installed the package
[06:43] <moo> want root?
[06:43] <deFrysk> mo remve the totemplugins from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[06:43] <moo> k
[06:43] <apokryphos> moo: eh?
[06:43] <caonex> Amaranth, what do you think about that message? "No screens found"
[06:43] <flexgrip> robot - im sorry i dont get it... right click what? the icon?
[06:43] <Amaranth> caonex: I dunno, sorry.
[06:43] <apokryphos> caonex: sounds like you haven't configured your X appropriately
[06:43] <intelikey> this stupid thing has been updating the sources lists for an hour.......   and still has errors.
[06:43] <moo> root@Indica:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins# ls
[06:43] <moo> libvlcplugin.so         mplayerplug-in-qt.xpt  mplayerplug-in-wmp.so
[06:43] <moo> mplayerplug-in-gmp.so   mplayerplug-in-rm.so   mplayerplug-in-wmp.xpt
[06:43] <moo> mplayerplug-in-gmp.xpt  mplayerplug-in-rm.xpt  mplayerplug-in.xpt
[06:43] <moo> mplayerplug-in-qt.so    mplayerplug-in.so
[06:43] <blueyed> I have a problem using makejail on breezy. It just does "Execution #1" after that a call like "chroot /my/chroot /bin/to_test" returns "cannot run command /bin/ls. No such file or directory".
[06:43] <LoneWolf071> i see all this movie chat and i must ask, what is the de facto video player for linux?
[06:43] <moo> no totem..
[06:43] <deFrysk> mo remve the totemplugins from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[06:43] <apokryphos> moo: do NOT paste in here
[06:44] <Amaranth> caonex: This is why I use a card with open-source 3D drivers. :)
[06:44] <flexgrip> robot - i thought there would be a daemon that would unmount it when i hit eject.. and mount when the tray closes
[06:44] <caonex> apokryphos, i had it working, upgraded kernel and now does not work
[06:44] <blueyed> moo: please use pastebin!
[06:44] <deFrysk> moo, last advise is corrected
[06:44] <deFrysk> mo remove the totemplugins from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[06:44] <LoneWolf071> i see all this movie chat and i must ask, what is the de facto video player for linux?
[06:44] <moo> root@Indica:/usr/lib/mozilla# ls
[06:44] <moo> components  libnssckbi.so  plugins
[06:44] <moo> sorry for pasting..
[06:44] <caonex> Amaranth, your ati does? i have one that is giving me a pain in the but in my laptop
[06:44] <apokryphos> caonex: reconfigure your X -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:44] <deFrysk> moo , I said mozilla-firefox
[06:44] <caonex> apokryphos i just did that
[06:44] <robotgeek> LoneWolf071: it's totem, but i use vlc
[06:44] <moo> ok
[06:44] <moo>  :p
[06:45] <moo> i think i get it
[06:45] <apokryphos> caonex: and make sure you have the appropriate drivers installed (i.e. nvidia/ati etc)
[06:45] <caonex> apokryphos and still does not work.
[06:45] <Amaranth> caonex: Only cards from Radeon 7000 to Radeon 9250 have open source 3D drivers.
[06:45] <moo> any ubuntu devs around?
[06:45] <caonex> apokryphos yeah i am sure i have them install
[06:45] <Amaranth> caonex: Anything older is SOL and anything newer needs fglrx
[06:45] <LoneWolf071> and will totem, right out of the box to say, play most codecs?
[06:45] <caonex> apokryphos i had it working right, it was after upgrading kernel
[06:45] <Amaranth> moo: Depends on the question.
[06:45] <LoneWolf071> robotgeek:and will totem, right out of the box to say, play most codecs?
[06:45] <moo> i'd like to suggest they make mpg files playable from firefox with the default install........its kinda something users expect
[06:45] <apokryphos> caonex: and you definitely selected them appropriately in your xorg.conf (or in the dpkg-reconfigure)? Hm, not quite sure then.
[06:45] <Amaranth> moo: It's not legally possible.
[06:45] <caonex> Amaranth i cant configure fglrx
[06:45] <jldugger> moo, that probably wont happen
[06:45] <moo> really?
[06:45] <robotgeek> LoneWolf071: if you install the codecs package,
[06:45] <moo> i didnt know that
[06:45] <deFrysk> moo, really
[06:45] <robotgeek> !tell LoneWolf071 about w32codecs
[06:46] <bur[n] er> evening all
[06:46] <moo> thats cool then
[06:46] <Amaranth> moo: Software patents suck.
[06:46] <jldugger> moo, mplayer is kinda sketchy
[06:46] <caonex> apokryphos i am sure i selected everything right
[06:46] <caonex> apokryphos it was what i had before upgrading
[06:46] <moo> i got it working by removing totem from mozilla plugins
[06:46] <apokryphos> caonex: then report the bug
[06:46] <moo> thanks for the help :)
[06:46] <caonex> apokryphos even the frequencies i double checked with xresprobe
[06:46] <apokryphos> caonex: that doesn't mean much -- sometimes it changes; not entirely sure why, but it does.
[06:46] <intelikey> moo feel free to write the code your self....   :)
[06:46] <Amaranth> intelikey: That's not very nice.
[06:47] <moo> lol..... i cant code, i can barely setup a linux machine
[06:47] <moo> even tho ive been using this stuff from 4-5 years i still dont seem to be able to do basic tasks
[06:47] <apokryphos> !tell moo about rute
[06:47] <LoneWolf071> this is going to sound stupid, but how do i install a .deb package?
[06:47] <Amaranth> intelikey: What is a distro for if not to make it possible for normal users to do things without knowing how to code?
[06:47] <apokryphos> moo: and, also, the wiki is a good place to dig around in.
[06:47] <apokryphos> LoneWolf071: dpkg -i package.deb
[06:47] <robotgeek> !tell me about rute
[06:47] <moo> wiki doesnt have this info... :p
[06:47] <robotgeek> LoneWolf071: prefix sudo
[06:47] <moo> but yes the wiki is awesome
[06:48] <apokryphos> moo: it does, actually.
[06:48] <jldugger> !tell me about rute
[06:48] <moo> where? its not under multimedia
[06:48] <apokryphos> well some of it, for sure.
[06:48] <LoneWolf071> k, ty, and i run as root moo
[06:48] <intelikey> Amaranth you missed the humour in it i guess.  mo caught it.
[06:48] <jldugger> !tell jldugger about rute
[06:48] <robotgeek> Amaranth: now look what u've done :)
[06:48] <apokryphos> jldugger: you can use /msg with ubotu =)
[06:48] <Amaranth> The wiki doesn't say what goes and doesn't in the channel. That's what the ops are for. :)
[06:48] <moo> anyway thanks for the help guys ill get out of your hair now..
[06:48] <jldugger> apokryphos, i forgot. i almost never use the bots
[06:48] <Amaranth> robotgeek: I was framed!
[06:49] <Amaranth> moot: Don't think that like, we like helping people.
[06:49] <apokryphos> jldugger: a shame; they can be veery useful :)
[06:49] <Amaranth> d'oh
[06:49] <robotgeek> Amaranth: heh, i was talking about botabuse
[06:49] <jbc> heyas :)
[06:49] <Amaranth> ubotu: bad bot
[06:49] <ubotu> no, you'red a bad person amaranth!
[06:49] <jldugger> apokryphos, its not been a problem for a while now. which is why i use ubuntu ;)
[06:49] <apokryphos> cool
[06:50] <robotgeek> i just prefer to use the main ubotu site
[06:50] <Amaranth> ubotu: botsnack
[06:50] <ubotu> thanks amaranth :)
[06:50] <Amaranth> ok, now i'm abusing the bot :)
[06:50] <Neurosis> I am enjoying this distro.
[06:50] <jbc> I've just installed 5.10, and I can't run any of the privileged apps (eg gnome-app-install) from the desktop - it comes back with 'wrong password for root'
[06:50] <bur[n] er> the main ubotu site needs to give an option to have more than 10 per page
[06:50] <apokryphos> Amaranth: watch out; you'll grow an unhealthy attachment to him ;-)
[06:50] <scott_> ok-i removed the top panel on my ubuntu and now when i minimize an internet window,it goes off to wherever and not down to the bottom panel????????
[06:50] <jbc> the password is correct - I can su and login from the console with it
[06:50] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: suggest it to cafuego when he's around
[06:50] <Amaranth> apokryphos: It's a him?
[06:50] <jldugger> jbc: use your password
[06:51] <jldugger> for your non privledged user
[06:51] <bur[n] er> apokryphos: cool, will do.. a stylesheet might be nice too ;)
[06:51] <jbc> anyone else experienced this?
[06:51] <apokryphos> !tell jbc about root
[06:51] <flexgrip> ok sorry had to reboot
[06:51] <apokryphos> Amaranth: of course!
[06:51] <flexgrip> SO isnt there a daemon that watches to see if the drive opens and closes and auto mounts and umounts it?
[06:51] <apokryphos> jbc: ubuntu doesn't use root; it uses sudo :). gksu/gksudo are patched to use sudo, too.
[06:52] <intelikey> jbc your password not the root password.
[06:52] <jbc> thanks :)
[06:52] <robotgeek> flexgrip: gnome-volume-manager does this for you. the applet is pretty helpful too
[06:52] <intelikey> the gui apps are calling on sudo   so they are looking for your user passwd.
[06:52] <flexgrip> do i need to install gnome-volume-manager?
[06:53] <flexgrip> how to i reach the applet?
[06:53] <robotgeek> flexgrip: nope, it should be installed already.
[06:53] <robotgeek> flexgrip: right click on your panel, and say "add to panel"
[06:53] <scott_> anyone??
[06:53] <kingright> man breezy is so sweet
[06:53] <robotgeek> flexgrip: then in system and hardware, add the 'drive mounter applet'
[06:54] <robotgeek> flexgrip: try 'gnome-panel' in a terminal
[06:54] <intelikey> scott_ you need to add to the bottom pannel a ahhh....   now i cant think of what it's called....
[06:55] <jbc> wheee, I killed it. entered user password, and that was the last I saw. Now 'add applications' just dies silently
[06:55] <robotgeek> scott_: try 'gnome-panel' in a terminal
[06:55] <robotgeek> flexgrip: sorry
[06:55] <intelikey> grrrr i hate it when old age starts to show.....
[06:55] <flexgrip> "Unable to mount the selected volume - Error: could not execute pmount"
[06:56] <intelikey> scott_ right click on the pannel and look through the add list.
[06:56] <robotgeek> flexgrip: what drive are u trying to mount?
[06:56] <flexgrip> dvd drive
[06:56] <flexgrip> robot - im trying to make a mythtv box and it is gonna need to auto mount and umount though
[06:56] <BeGu> is it possible to get azureus with apt-get?
[06:56] <aeon17x> BeGu: I think you can with the extras repositories.
[06:56] <flexgrip> yaeh azureus.. you just gotta spell it right
[06:57] <flexgrip> and make sure your sources.list file is 'opened up'
[06:57] <BeGu> well, guess I then have wrong extra repositories.. :)
[06:57] <robotgeek> flexgrip: can u tab complete my nick so that i know u are talking to me :)
[06:58] <BeGu> E: Couldn't find package azureus
[06:58] <flexgrip> yeah sorry
[06:58] <misfit_toy> flexgrip, just use KnoppMyth
[06:58] <flexgrip> is that alot better?
[06:58] <flexgrip> and you think it will auto install my cx88 drivers for my capture card?
[06:59] <scott_> are you talking about adding workspace switcher-i just want my internet pages to minimize to the panel.
[06:59] <scott_> seems stupid-but it's always these little things i get stuck on
[07:00] <bluefoxicy> UPDATE:  Florian Boor has expressed interest in working with Ubuntu on a PDA/embedded distribution
[07:00] <robotgeek> scott_: oh, okay...it's called window list . right click and add to panel
[07:00] <robotgeek> anyways, i gotta go now. cya later!
[07:01] <flexgrip> robotgeek_away:
[07:01] <flexgrip> robotgeek_away: use knoppmyth?
[07:01] <jbc> bbiam
[07:01] <n3t0> im try rum a program but he retunr this n3t0@Icarus:~/downloads/comicviewer-0.1$ ./comicviewer
[07:01] <n3t0> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Lorg/gnu/gnome/App;
[07:01] <n3t0>    at ComicViewer.main (ComicViewer.java:65)
[07:01] <scott_> now that was real dumb of me-i knew that-thanks:)
[07:01] <n3t0> how a can fixed
[07:03] <scott_> anyone know of any good program for listing auctions on ebay, that of course i can use in ubuntu?
[07:04] <scott_> like programs to make an auction layout and stuff like that.
[07:07] <strike4ce> How do I setup 3d with xorg?
[07:07] <GullyFoyle>  scott: check freshmeat or sourceforge
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> strike4ce,  the binary driver howto/wiki on the ubuntu pages will help ya with ati/nvidia cards
[07:08] <strike4ce> i have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 Pro Turbo 128mb in a dell inspiron 8600
[07:08] <farruinn> !ati
[07:08] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:09] <scott_> thanks gullyfoyle-will do!
[07:09] <farruinn> strike4ce: check those links first
[07:09] <tarheelcoxn> Dr_Willis, farruinn: I mentioned them to him
[07:09] <tarheelcoxn> Dr_Willis, farruinn: he's looked
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> Make him Look harder! :P
[07:09] <paulproteus> jbc: Does logging out of the desktop, then logging back in help?
[07:09] <strike4ce> i already have
[07:10] <scott_> i noticed that when i try to burn an iso on my dvd/cd burner combo,it doesn't work-but it will work if i use my cd burner/dvd player combo!!! hmmmmmmm!
[07:10] <jbc> I tried - I get prompted once more on the first attempt post-login
[07:10] <jbc> and then nothing
[07:11] <Turner> hmm
[07:11] <Turner> when X starts up it gives an error 'Virtual screen too big for memory, 1875k needed 1532k available
[07:11] <Turner> any way to fix this?>
[07:11] <paulproteus> Turner: What video card do you have?
[07:11] <Turner> apart from going out and buying a new card
[07:11] <aeon17x> !mount
[07:11] <ubotu> hmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[07:12] <aeon17x> !dvd
[07:12] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can obtain by installing 'libdvdread3' and then running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[07:12] <jbc> aha... hang on
[07:12] <Turner> uh, I honistly do not know. I just got this computer for free from somebody, it has 1.3 ghz and 1 gig of ram, some crappy onboard vid card
[07:12] <Turner> any way to find out easily?
[07:12] <paulproteus> Turner: Can you log in on a text console?
[07:12] <Turner> yeah
[07:12] <paulproteus> Turner: Run "lspci" from the console.
[07:13] <paulproteus> You'll see something about "VGA" or "Graphics"; give us that line.
[07:13] <paulproteus> That lists all the PCI devices in a computer.  Do you know what PCI is?
[07:13] <Turner> Silicon Integrated Systems, [SiS]  630/730
[07:13] <Turner> PCI/AGP display Adapter
[07:13] <tarheelcoxn> ugh
[07:14] <tarheelcoxn> SiS: Sucky integrated Systems
[07:14] <Turner> lol
[07:14] <Turner> still, this isn't bad for a free computer
[07:14] <paulproteus> Turner: Okay, one sec.
[07:14] <tarheelcoxn> no kidding!
[07:14] <paulproteus> Turner: Indeed. :)
[07:14] <intelikey> well i can't seem to get gpm="general purpose mouse" to work, i've dpkg-recongirured it several different ways, but to no avail.   and when i trace it this is the only error i can find "stat64("/bin/start-stop-daemon", 0xbffff2d0 = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)"     so why is there no dependancy broken if that file is the cause ?
[07:14] <jbc> bingo.  Found it. Oct 29 15:13:42 millennium sudo:      jbc : command not allowed ; TTY=unknown ;
[07:14] <jbc> PWD=/home/jbc ; USER=root ; COMMAND=validate
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  did ya edit the /etc/gpl.conf manually ?
[07:14] <felipe__> Why I'm I getting * it is not installable, when I try to install the mysql server?
[07:15] <Albaraha> !help
[07:15] <SilverMaster> i've mounted the windows partition on my comp and i was wondering if there's a way to make everything not just read only
[07:15] <intelikey> gpl.conf    don't think so.
[07:15] <tarheelcoxn> Turner: I built a computer about four months ago... didn't realize SiS chipset would give me so much trouble.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> Silencer,  if its NTFS - keep it read only.
[07:15] <alnr_> what is the proper way to turn off the startup of x so ubuntu just boots to a CLI?
[07:15] <tarheelcoxn> Turner: ended up taking the easy way out and buying a $40 AGP card
[07:15] <Turner> hehe, yeah, I got two computers like this, the other one is some intel chipset vid card, ran ubu fine
[07:16] <paulproteus> Turner: Do:
[07:16] <Turner> but, this one has the 250gb hard drive I just put in
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> alnr_,  i delete the 'gdm' service from the /etc/rc2.d (i think) so it dont start
[07:16] <paulproteus> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:16] <paulproteus> If it asks you how much Video RAM is in there, tell it 4096.
[07:16] <intelikey> Dr_Willis no such file  ???
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> alnr_,  not sure if theres a 'better' way to remove it. with some sysv config tools or not.
[07:16] <paulproteus> That'd be 4096 kilobytes.
[07:16] <alnr_> Dr_Willis: i saw that in sysv-something or other
[07:16] <alnr_> thanks
[07:16] <Turner> uhh
[07:16] <paulproteus> Turner: My guess is the board does "video memory sharing" with the system, so it should be able to steal that much RAM without any problem.
[07:17] <paulproteus> Turner: Question? :)
[07:17] <intelikey> Dr_Willis did you mean gpm.conf ?
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  check in /etc/ there should be some gpm.conf or similer file. May be in a sub dir. it just has a line or 2 in it for where to look
[07:17] <Turner> Package 'xserver-org' is not installed and there is no info available
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  :P
[07:17] <paulproteus> Turner: "x server hyphen x org"
[07:17] <paulproteus> Turner: Two 'x's.
[07:17] <alnr_> after I can start x manually, i want to run fluxbox or something small instead of gdm
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> alnr_,  thats trivially easy to do.
[07:18] <Turner> ok
[07:18] <Turner> everything else default?
[07:18] <paulproteus> Turner: Yeah, that should be fine.
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> alnr_,  you can make gdm start up fluxbox or whatever ya want.
[07:18] <intelikey> Dr_Willis there is nothing fuzzy about that file   and this is a 2button ps2 mouse ......
[07:18] <Turner> how do I start up X? gdm?
[07:18] <alnr_> Dr_Willis: actually i know how to do it better for a vnc. for the real console, where do i put the fluxbox call?
[07:18] <intelikey> it should work without any config....
[07:19] <scott_> ok- this is not your every day os-this will confuse your normal everyday windows user till it drives them crazy:)
[07:19] <paulproteus> Turner: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  all  ive ever done to get gpm working right was ecit that file to set what/where the mouse was at. (my laptop touchpad/mouse confsed it at times) and restarted the service
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  check the mouse device its looking at - to see if it really exists.
[07:20] <SP> Hello again :P
[07:20] <SP> I have a small problem.
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  it may be wanting /dev/input/mouse  or some other slight varient.
[07:20] <paulproteus> SP: Go on.
[07:20] <SP> My old installation of Ubuntu Hoary is still there.
[07:20] <jbc> it sounds like either my sudoers is incorrect, or I'm not in a required group. Does my user need to be in any particular groups?
[07:20] <SP> I'm using Breezy.
[07:20] <intelikey> yeah.... i've never had any trubble with gpm either.....   and yes  od /dev/psaux dumps octal data when the mouse is moved...
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> a real ps2 mouse.. how Quaint. :P
[07:21] <paulproteus> jbc: Can you use sudo from the command line?
[07:21] <Albaraha> in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade - With Breezy CD and Synaptic Option-, do I have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually after upgrading packages?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  could see what /dev/ thing your X config is using.  for the mouse.
[07:21] <manuel__> necesito ayuda algun espaol soy nuevo
[07:21] <tarheelcoxn> ubotu: tell manuel__ about spanish
[07:22] <manuel__> irc en espaol, please
[07:22] <manuel__> un link en espaol
[07:22] <nalioth> !es
[07:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:22] <felipe__> Why I'm I getting * it is not installable, when I try to install the mysql server?
[07:22] <intelikey> Dr_Willis what X ?
[07:22] <intelikey>  :)
[07:22] <jbc> prompts for password, dies silently
[07:22] <paulproteus> jbc: On the command line, even?
[07:22] <jbc> jbc@millennium:~$ sudo ls
[07:22] <jbc> Password:
[07:22] <jbc> jbc@millennium:~$
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  good luck. :P ya  FIend!
[07:22] <blueyed> I have problems running chroot on breezy.. "cannot run command /bin/ls. No such file or directory". Of course /bin/ls exists in the jail. I've used makejail to create the jail, but makejail also does just one iteration (probably of that problem).
[07:23] <intelikey> lol
[07:23] <SP> problem: My old installation of Hoary still appeats on Grub.
[07:23] <SP> DO I just delete the entries from /boot?
[07:23] <tarheelcoxn> SP no
[07:23] <Albaraha> !help
[07:23] <Turner> it still gives me the same message
[07:23] <manuel__> algun espaol que me ayude
[07:23] <intelikey> from /boot/menu.lst i think
[07:23] <intelikey> from /boot/grub/menu.lst i think
[07:24] <Turner> Virtual screen too big for memory: 1875k needed, 1532k available
[07:24] <paulproteus> jbc: What does "sudo -l" say?
[07:24] <manuel__> algun irc en espaol
[07:24] <tarheelcoxn> SP: if you mess with /boot, you need to run update-grub
[07:24] <paulproteus> !es
[07:24] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:24] <tarheelcoxn> manuel__: #ubuntu-es
[07:24] <paulproteus> SP: I suggest using Synaptic to *remove* the old kernel-image-* packages.
[07:24] <manuel__> muchas gracias
[07:24] <SP> Okay
[07:24] <paulproteus> SP: It's those kernel-image-whatever packages that are getting in the way.
[07:25] <manuel__> gracias de verdad
[07:25] <jbc> paulproteus, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3779 - my sudoers file
[07:25] <paulproteus> manuel__: de nada :)
[07:25] <Turner> I was able to get knoppix working, should I just boot that up and copy it's xorg conf over?
[07:25] <paulproteus> jbc: What does "sudo -l" say?
[07:25] <jbc> whops, was scrolled up
[07:25] <paulproteus> jbc: Yikes!  You're not in that file at all!
[07:25] <SP> Where do I delete them in Synaptic?
[07:25] <paulproteus> sp: Use the search feature, and look for kernel-image.
[07:26] <jbc> thus is seems: Sorry, user jbc may not run sudo on millennium.
[07:26] <intelikey> yeah can't he just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the offending entry ?
[07:26] <paulproteus> jbc: That's silly!  How'd that happen?
[07:26] <paulproteus> intelikey: It'd be cleaner to get rid of the old kernels entirely.
[07:26] <jbc> I have no idea. IU sure as hell didn't touch it.
[07:26] <paulproteus> jbc: Well then, by Jove, let's fix it.
[07:26] <paulproteus> Just add this line to the bottom:
[07:26] <paulproteus> jbcALL=(ALL)ALL
[07:27] <jbc> thankee :)
[07:27] <intelikey> paulproteus sense when has a pinguin been clean ?????
[07:27] <paulproteus> Did you happen to upgrade from some other distribution or something?
[07:27] <SP> Paulproteus, it's listing quite a few things, what should I be looking for?
[07:27] <paulproteus> SP: You should look for only packages you have currently installed.
[07:28] <paulproteus> If you want to be more specific in your search, that might help.  Search for the kernel versions that you don't want to appear in the GRUB menu.
[07:28] <SP> When I search kernel-image, only one package is installed in the list, and thats alsa
[07:28] <tarheelcoxn> SP: linux-image
[07:28] <paulproteus> tarheelcoxn: Oops, right.  Thanks.
[07:28] <tarheelcoxn> :)
[07:28] <jbc> yay
[07:28] <SP> Ah
[07:28] <SP> Here it is
[07:29] <paulproteus> jbc: Question: How did you install Ubuntu?
[07:29] <SP> linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[07:29] <paulproteus> Did you upgrade from some other system, or do something otherwise exotic?
[07:29] <SP> I should remove that, right?
[07:29] <SP> I'm on breezy
[07:29] <[Chameleon] > anybody else getting crazy race conditions when returning to a machine that has been idle so long that the monitor is off??
[07:29] <jbc> paulproteus, no, clean install. I used 'expert' mode, but I pretty much went with the defaults
[07:29] <tarheelcoxn> SP: as long as you're satisfied your system is running okay
[07:29] <paulproteus> jbc: First hint: Don't use expert mode unless you're an expert. ;)
[07:29] <jbc> paulproteus, I'm just not familiar with sudo.
[07:29] <tarheelcoxn> SP: if you have lots of disk space, there's no problem keeping it
[07:30] <SP> I've only got 8GB assigned to this partition
[07:30] <SP> Either way, gone now :)
[07:31] <SP> I'm going to reboot and see what happens.
[07:31] <SP> Brb
[07:31] <paulproteus> jbc: Well, okay. :)
[07:31] <jbc> it's a bit worrying that the installer missed adding the user
[07:31] <intelikey> can anyone with synaptic tell me what package contains "start-stop-daemon" please ?
[07:31] <crimsun> dpkg.
[07:32] <odat> anyone here use azureus?
[07:33] <intelikey> hmmmm maybe a symlink will work....
[07:33] <Turner> paulproteus, I just rebooted and went into my bios and loaded optimized defaults
[07:33] <Turner> X came up fine then
[07:33] <odat> [Chameleon] , where is it located and what is the command to launch it
[07:33] <paulproteus> Turner: Well, that's good.
[07:33] <Turner> Thanks for your help :)
[07:33] <jbc> anyways, thanks for the help, all :)
[07:33] <paulproteus> Turner: Good to have that nonsense over. :)
[07:33] <Turner> yeah I couldn't get sound w*orking in the other system, so it seems to work great here
[07:33] <[Chameleon] > odat: depends on where you install it. Can be installed anywhere. command to launch is path/to/azureus
[07:34] <[Chameleon] > odat: i.e., I have mine installed in /home/paul/azureus, so my launch command is /home/paul/azureus/azureus, or ~/azureus/azureus for shorthand.
[07:34] <[Chameleon] > odat: you do need Java installed and the bin/java file (or a symlink to it) in your PATH
[07:35] <odat> [Chameleon] , i did the default install so where might it be?
[07:35] <SP> Worked
[07:35] <SP> :)
[07:35] <[Chameleon] > odat: heck if I know... not sure what you mean by "default install"
[07:35] <[Chameleon] > odat: do this: `sudo updatedb && locate "azureus/azureus"`
[07:36] <[Chameleon] > odat: updatedb will take a while
[07:37] <odat> [Chameleon] , ok i see how it works  it doesn't really install itself
[07:38] <[Chameleon] > odat: it doesn't? hmm... I'm sure it's installed on my drive
[07:38] <[Chameleon] > odat: what do you mean?
[07:38] <[Chameleon] > odat: you mean that it doesn't create menu entries and such?
[07:38] <wickedpuppy> azureus is not in synaptic .. you got to untar and run ...
[07:39] <[Chameleon] > wickedpuppy: yeah, so I'm not sure if that's what he's referring to.
[07:39] <wickedpuppy> it should be in his download folder .. unless he moved it...
[07:40] <[Chameleon] > wickedpuppy: heh, dang, I assumed he already had it extracted.
[07:40] <[Chameleon] > wickedpuppy: guess I take that simple stuff for granted.
[07:40] <wickedpuppy> odat, its a java app ... you just run it just like helloworld :P
[07:40] <wickedpuppy> [Chameleon] ,  :P try azureus ... its very good torrent client
[07:41] <[Chameleon] > wickedpuppy: you must have waltzed into the middle of our conversation... I use azureus already.
[07:41] <[Chameleon] > wickedpuppy: I've never had trouble with it.
[07:41] <[Chameleon] > wickedpuppy: he was asking for help and I was trying to grok his issue.
[07:42] <intelikey> ok trying with devfs inabled.... bbib
[07:43] <brownie17> so can someone tell me why after i upgraded to breezy nautilus quits unexpectedly like every two minutes
[07:43] <brownie17> it is really frustrating
[07:43] <toogreen> hello there
[07:44] <toogreen> I would like to have write access to my /media/hda1  as a normal user
[07:44] <toogreen> It is now read-only.. How can I fix that?
[07:44] <mustard5> brownie17, I don't know the answer but I know I saw someone in here yesterday with the same problem
[07:45] <mustard5> toogreen, is is an ntfs drive?
[07:45] <brownie17> mustard5, do you remeber anything else about it? did they get a solution? do you rmember there username?
[07:45] <Turner> what is the correct syntax for mounting a samba filesystem?
[07:45] <brownie17> toogreen, if it is an ntfs drive, backup everything and reformat in fat32 or something, that is assuming it is a windows drive
[07:45] <mustard5> brownie17, there was no resolution to this guy's issue when I saw him in here
[07:45] <toogreen> mustard5, no It is a fat32... I used to access it without any problems when I was running mandrake
[07:45] <brownie17> toogreen, do you have the winmac_fstab script installed?
[07:46] <mustard5> toogreen, you on breezy?
[07:46] <toogreen> brownie17, dunno, can i just apt-get install that?
[07:46] <toogreen> mustard5, yeah i think so :|
[07:46] <brownie17> toogreen, no, check the url ubotu sent you
[07:46] <mustard5> toogreen, System>Adminstration>Disks if your are on breezy
[07:46] <pudland> cant see nvu icon in "network development"
[07:46] <paulproteus> Turner: Use smbmount; that makes it easy.
[07:47] <Turner> -su: smbmount: command not found
[07:47] <Turner> thats what I was trying
[07:47] <Turner> cause I was used to using it
[07:47] <Turner> couldn't apt-get install it either.
[07:47] <toogreen> ok im checking the url
[07:47] <mannyman> can I install Windows TT fonts in Ubuntu? How?
[07:48] <Turner> nevermind
[07:48] <Turner> installing smbfs :)
[07:48] <crimsun> mannyman: any specific ones?
[07:48] <mustard5> toogreen, or if you like command line.. sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /media/whateverdirectoryyounormallymount
[07:48] <Turner> that was my problem
[07:48] <crimsun> mannyman: random TTFs go in ~/.fonts
[07:48] <paulproteus> Turner: Good; was about to point you to it.
[07:48] <mannyman> Arial, Times Roman, Some Arabic Fonts as well
[07:49] <cius> hello
[07:49] <mannyman> so I just drag and drop from my NTFS volume to that folder?
[07:49] <cius> how is everyone tonite?
[07:49] <pudland> how do i show "network" "development" under applications?
[07:49] <brownie17> cius, it's afternoon for me
[07:49] <DShepherd> cius ok
[07:49] <pudland> its early morning for me
[07:50] <BeGu> fine thanks... but it's 9 o'clock in morning
[07:50] <ubuntu> Some audio sounds horrible (really scratchy to the point where it sounds like it could be damaging the speakers). Is there a common reason for this?
[07:50] <cius> brownie17, yea, I forget that the ubuntu community is wider than america somtimes!  :-)
[07:50] <pudland> how do i show "network" "development" under applications?
[07:50] <BeGu> :D
[07:50] <[Chameleon] > cius: yup, not everyone is in Tennessee.
[07:50] <paulproteus> ubuntu: Try decreasing the volume level to 77% or less.
[07:50] <cius> chameleon, yea, I know, just forget that sometimes
[07:50] <[Chameleon] > cius: :)
[07:50] <DShepherd> cius: stretches to Jamaica too
[07:50] <Korio> how can you get the scroll button to work in firefox?
[07:51] <Turner> ah, I'm happy now, watching a video over the smb share.. Thanks again
[07:51] <qsrv> hi
[07:51] <brownie17> cius, haha, world-wide. it is scary!
[07:51] <[Chameleon] > DShepherd: Jamaica, New York? Wow!! ;)
[07:51] <paulproteus> Turner: Glad to hear it. :)
[07:51] <paulproteus> Some sound cards get very "blasty" above the 80s of percent.  Use the speakers' volume control to make it louder.
[07:51] <ubuntu> Still sounds horrible.
[07:51] <cius> good to hear everyone is doing good though
[07:51] <brownie17> cius, i am from australia
[07:51] <qsrv> I've configured wpa_supplicant on my t43 thinkpad using ubuntu
[07:51] <paulproteus> Make sure "PCM" is also within the 70s or lower.
[07:51] <Korio> how can you get the scroll button to work in firefox?
[07:51] <qsrv> but it doesn't work when I come back after hibernating
[07:51] <DShepherd> [Chameleon] : no Jamaica as the island jamaica
[07:52] <qsrv> what could be the cause?
[07:52] <[Chameleon] > DShepherd: I know; you must have missed my wink.
[07:52] <ubuntu> Yes. Both are probably lower than 25% and it still sounds horrible.
[07:52] <DShepherd> [Chameleon] : ok
[07:52] <crimsun> qsrv: what does dmesg |tail say? Paste in #flood
[07:52] <[Chameleon] > cius: so what's up with you? you need some help?
[07:52] <paulproteus> ubuntu: Huh, that sucks.  What sound card?
[07:52] <cius> brownie17, thats awesome, I love talking to people from different countries.
[07:52] <alekz> how can i know my ubuntu version ?
[07:52] <ubuntu> paulproteus: Let me look it up.
[07:52] <cius> Chameleon, who doesn't need help these days?
[07:53] <crimsun> ubuntu: cat /proc/asound/cards
[07:53] <[Chameleon] > cius: true
[07:53] <ubuntu> crimsun: What Linux thinks it is and what it actually is do not always match up. :)
[07:54] <[Chameleon] > ubuntu: so give both
[07:54] <ubuntu> [Chameleon] : Working on it
[07:54] <DShepherd> hey do I need to restart my computer after I have updating my linux kernel to see the effect?
[07:54] <cius> actually I could use a little help.  I have a problem getting my installation of quake 4 to run at full volume for the surroun channels ( runs fine for the front channels)
[07:54] <cius> surround*
[07:55] <Korio> how can you get the scroll button to work in firefox?
[07:55] <[Chameleon] > cius: Q4 is linux native? kewl.. didn't realize that.
[07:55] <[Chameleon] > cius: 'course, it's logical since Q3 was.
[07:55] <cius> chameleon, yea, its linux native, released only about four days or so after official launch
[07:55] <crimsun> ubuntu: "it" actually being...?
[07:56] <[Chameleon] > cius: better than Q3; it was far more than a week, IIRC.
[07:56] <cius> chameleon, still waiting for the day that it launcheds linux native on cd...
[07:56] <[Chameleon] > cius: yeah... UT2K3 did
[07:56] <[Chameleon] > cius: and I assume UT2K4
[07:56] <cius> chameleon I'll have to try UT2K
[07:56] <cius> I haven't tried it on linux yet
[07:57] <[Chameleon] > cius: I didn't care for it. I'm more into the Battlefield franchise... I only wish the client were Linux native.
[07:57] <[Chameleon] > cius: so anyway; your sound issue...
[07:57] <cius> quake 4 runs like a dream except for my rear channels.   Intel ICH5 onboard surround btw>
[07:57] <mambon> hi guys
[07:57] <ubuntu> Linux says "Intel ICH5 with AD1980 at 0xfebffa00, irq 17". It's really "Analog Devices ADI 198x Integrated Audio". I believe it's on an Intel chipset.
[07:58] <mambon> dose anyone know what THC-hydra is?
[07:58] <lanteau> I just installed ubuntu, it used the nv driver for xorg out of the box, but does it come with the nvidia? I noticed the nvidia modules exist but when I change nv in xorg.conf to nvidia x wont start..ideas?
[07:58] <[Chameleon] > cius, ubuntu: hmm, interesting you both have issues with the same chipset.
[07:58] <cius> ubuntu, exactly, but as far as getting surround working...I don't know.  <---newbie at this
[07:58] <mambon> dose anyone know what THC-hydra is?
[07:58] <mambon> ?
[07:58] <mambon> ?
[07:58] <mambon> ?
[07:58] <ubuntu> cius: I don't care about surround currently.
[07:58] <[Chameleon] > mambon: no, stop being annoying.
[07:59] <mustard5> lanteau, out of curiousity what kernel are you running?
[07:59] <mambon> ok
[07:59] <lanteau> isn't THC a drug? or like a chemical in marijuna
[07:59] <ubuntu> I just don't want stereo to sound like crap.
[07:59] <cius> ubuntu, I do, for quake 4.  :-)
[07:59] <crimsun> ubuntu: huh?
[07:59] <lanteau> lemme check mustard5
[07:59] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: yes
[07:59] <odat> what is a good bittorrent client for ubuntu?
[07:59] <mambon> no
[07:59] <crimsun> ubuntu: How is what /proc/asound/cards reports wrong?
[07:59] <mambon> is like a cracker
[07:59] <ubuntu> crimsun: I didn't say it was wrong.
[07:59] <mambon> to brutus force
[07:59] <lanteau> mustard5: 2.6.10-5-386
[07:59] <mambon> i can"t get it to work
[08:00] <mambon> anyone knows how get it to work
[08:00] <[Chameleon] > mambon: is it in the apt repositories?
[08:00] <crimsun> ubuntu: paste amixer output onto paste
[08:00] <mambon> nope
[08:00] <cius> It's really my volume that is the problem.  It doesn't seemd to work right for the rear speakers.
[08:00] <mambon> i try
[08:00] <[Chameleon] > mambon: then it's not supported, go away.
[08:00] <ubuntu> Onto paste?
[08:00] <alnr_> how do I start x + fluxbox? currently startx starts gnome.
[08:00] <[Chameleon] > mambon: I, for one, will NOT help you "crack" anything.
[08:00] <mustard5> lanteau, hmmm well that blows my theory away :)  I've seen quite few with your issue on K7 kernel and I thought that might be the prolbem.
[08:00] <brownie17> after i upgraded to breezy, most of the packages i haven't installed in synaptic are white squares with yellow stars, why? why not just white squares? where can i get a short lit of what every icon means?
[08:00] <crimsun> ubuntu: see topic.
[08:01] <cius> alnr_, if I'm not mistaken, your mistake is with your session manager.
[08:01] <lanteau> so changing nv to nvidia in xorg.conf is all i should have to do?
[08:01] <[Chameleon] > cius: do you have any volume at all in the rear channels?
[08:01] <ubuntu> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3780
[08:01] <[Chameleon] > cius: is your setup quadraphonic, 5.1 or other?
[08:01] <[Chameleon] > cius: have you tried altering the levels with the alsa mixer?
[08:01] <alnr_> cius: not sure what to do, startx goes straight into gnome
[08:02] <cius> chameleon, yea, I have volume, its just really low, but my "surround" volume in the volume control is equal to my normal volume
[08:02] <lanteau> mustard5: Should I upgrade my kernel?
[08:02] <mustard5> lanteau, no
[08:02] <odat> anyone know of a good bittorrent client for ubuntu?
[08:02] <ubuntu> By the way, I put PCM and Volume back up.
[08:02] <paulproteus> odat: rtorrent?
[08:02] <mustard5> lanteau, unless you really want to, but it wont fix this problem i dont think
[08:02] <brownie17> since when is there a quake four?
[08:02] <crimsun> ubuntu: this may appear to be stupid, but is the speaker connection snug?
[08:02] <cius> alnr_, try clicking on "sessions" in gdm, then choose what wm/de you want, then log in.
[08:03] <[Chameleon] > cius: did you try balancing the "surround" control? "surround" might be actually like a front/back fader
[08:03] <lanteau> mustard5: hmm I see
[08:03] <mannyman> Newbie says: how do I mount an iso image as a viewable drive in Linux?
[08:03] <ubuntu> crimsun: It's not stupid, but the speakers work fine in other OSs.
[08:03] <ubuntu> crimsun: So I doubt it's a connectivity issue.
[08:04] <lanteau> mustard5: Wow, sorry for wasting your time, I just needed to install nvidia-glx
[08:04] <mustard5> lanteau, I'll just check the forum where I was reading about your issue..maybe something has changed
[08:04] <cius> chameleon, my speaker setting in on 6ch, and I've tried playing with alsamixer, but I trie not to set my "surround" setting too high, because if its unbalanced with my normal levels while plauing music, then the rear speakers are louder
[08:04] <ubuntu> I'll plug in my headphones to be sure.
[08:04] <odie5533> When I boot a thin client on a romomatic cd, it says No Ip Address
[08:04] <ubuntu> Still sounds horrible.
[08:04] <mannyman> I heard this was simple in Linux ?!
[08:04] <[Chameleon] > cius: what do you mean by "unbalanced"? does it correspond with my theory about "surround" being like a fader?
[08:04] <crimsun> ubuntu: does muting 'External Amplifier' have an effect for you?
[08:05] <mustard5> lanteau, oh..ok..hehe I would have normally said that myself, but it hasnt worked for some people lately :)
[08:05] <odat> crimsun, sup man
[08:05] <cius> chameleon, not sure, let me try adjusting the surround level real quick and launching quake4
[08:05] <odat> crimsun, know of a good bittorrent proggy
[08:05] <[Chameleon] > cius: balance it in the middle, or even to test, drop it low to check that rear gets more than balanced audio
[08:06] <ubuntu> crimsun: It's not in use.
[08:06] <lanteau> hmm...mustard5, What should I add to xorg.conf to get a 85hz refresh rate
[08:06] <lanteau> Im trying to save my eyes here ;)
[08:06] <ubuntu> Well, I guess it's just not visible...
[08:06] <[Chameleon] > cius: you also might want to install "gnome-alsamixer" from apt. It may offer you more options.
[08:06] <mannyman> crimsun: Newbie says: how do I mount an iso image as a viewable drive in Linux?
[08:06] <ubuntu> When I make it visible and uncheck it, no effect.
[08:07] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: your monitor vsync & hsync need to be right. also try the randr applet; I think it offers refresh rate selection.
[08:07] <cius> chameleon, I've got alsamixer installed, atleast, alsamixer brings up a prog that allows me to adjust different things...
[08:07] <crimsun> mannyman: sudo modprobe loop && sudo mount -o loop foo.iso /mnt
[08:07] <[Chameleon] > cius: is it ncurses terminal based or GUI?
[08:07] <silsabar> fuck this :|
[08:07] <mannyman> thanks
[08:07] <cius> I've got to killall esd to get quake 4 sound working, can I restart it with /et/init.d/ esd start?
[08:07] <hawking> how can i extract a rar archive?
[08:08] <[Chameleon] > silsabar: uhh, no thanks.
[08:08] <cius> chameleon, ncurses, I think
[08:08] <paulproteus> cius: Just run "esd" at a terminal.
[08:08] <lanteau> [Chameleon] : Do I need to install randr seprately?
[08:08] <silsabar> hawking, that is my problem too :O
[08:08] <crimsun> odat: azureus, ktorrent, etc.
[08:08] <lanteau> if so, whats its package name?
[08:08] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: yeah, it's a separate app. It's in apt / synaptic. search for randr
[08:08] <cius> paulproteus, but then I have to leave that term open for it to continue running esd
[08:08] <lanteau> k
[08:08] <odat> has anyone had automount problems with the floppy and card readers?
[08:08] <paulproteus> cius: If you do "esd &", you can close the terminal.
[08:08] <[Chameleon] > cius: no, do `est --terminate --nobeeps &`
[08:08] <[Chameleon] > s/est/esd
[08:09] <odat> crimsun,  can't seem to get azureus to install right its weird
[08:09] <[Chameleon] > odat: wtf
[08:09] <silsabar> but could some one tell a total noob how to get rw rights to windows partitions in breezy? :|
[08:09] <[Chameleon] > silsabar: mount it with these options:  "rw,user"
[08:09] <odat> [Chameleon] , sup?
[08:09] <[Chameleon] > odat: you still can't get azureus working?
[08:09] <[Chameleon] > odat: did you extract it?
[08:09] <ubuntu> Any more things to try?
[08:09] <cius> chameleon, paulproteus, I'll try both those to test my sound issues
[08:10] <silsabar> :o
[08:10] <[Chameleon] > cius: aye
[08:10] <paulproteus> cius: Cool.
[08:10] <paulproteus> Good night, all.
[08:10] <brownie17> there is ALOT of new packages, i just realised
[08:10] <crimsun> ubuntu: amixer sget 'External Amplifier'
[08:10] <odat> [Chameleon] , yea and i did ./azureus and it opens and i can use it but it doesn't install anywhere
[08:10] <crimsun> ubuntu: what's the output?
[08:10] <[Chameleon] > silsabar: oh, btw, has to be FAT32. can't write to NTFS.
[08:10] <silsabar> yeah
[08:10] <silsabar> :)
[08:10] <[Chameleon] > silsabar: unless you want to corrupt your NTFS, then, by all means, write to it.
[08:10] <ubuntu>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
[08:10] <ubuntu>   Playback channels: Mono
[08:10] <ubuntu>   Mono: Playback [off] 
[08:10] <lanteau> [Chameleon] : I'm seeing libxrandr2 but not the actual package
[08:10] <jasonb> join #ldap
[08:11] <silsabar> . /dev/hdd5       /windowsf       vfat    defaults <-- that defaults part to rw,user? :P
[08:11] <hawking> ubotu tell hawking about unrar
[08:11] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: package name: "gnome-randr-applet"
[08:11] <brownie17> toogreen, did you get it to work?
[08:11] <[Chameleon] > hawking: you know, you can /msg ubotu and ask all you want privately.
[08:11] <crimsun> ubuntu: and it has no effect, correct?
[08:12] <hawking> do you know how I can extract a rar file chameleon?
[08:12] <[Chameleon] > hawking: unrar
[08:12] <bur[n] er> hawking: file-roller
[08:12] <lanteau> [Chameleon] : thanks
[08:12] <bur[n] er> hawking: u may need unrar-nonfree :\
[08:12] <[Chameleon] > bur[n] er: has to have the rar utils first
[08:12] <mustard5> lanteau, soz..someone at the door. :)   I wouldn't have know anyway
[08:12] <bur[n] er> [Chameleon] : true
[08:12] <hawking> burner: I have downloaded unrar-nonfree now how can i extract it?
[08:13] <crimsun> ubuntu: did you dist-upgrade from Hoary, or is this a fresh Breezy install?
[08:13] <Merturk_NB> Which release of Wifi Radar should I install?
[08:13] <silsabar> unpacking .rar files does not work for me :P
[08:13] <bur[n] er> hawking: use file-roller
[08:13] <brownie17> silsabar, btw, if you want to get your windows partitions automatically mountede at boot with RW permissions, then you can use the winmac_fstab script. would you like a link to it?
[08:13] <bur[n] er> anyone else find metacity very limiting... grr...
[08:14] <ubuntu> crimsun: This is the LiveCD.
[08:14] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: hmm, it seems that X will need the randr extension enabled. not a difficult task; if you know what you're doing.
[08:14] <[Chameleon] > bur[n] er: as opposed to?? sawfish? yes.
[08:14] <ubuntu> crimsun: I want to make sure my hardware works before commiting to a distro.
[08:14] <Merturk_NB> What does the Stick function do to a window?
[08:14] <Merturk_NB> and, what release of wifi radar should I install to Ubuntu? running xfce
[08:14] <brownie17> Merturk_NB, i beleive it keeps it on top
[08:15] <brownie17> toogreen, did you get it to work?
[08:15] <odat> [Chameleon] , no answers?
[08:15] <silsabar> grh
[08:15] <Merturk_NB> brownie17, thanks
[08:15] <bur[n] er> [Chameleon] : sawfish, kde, fluxbox, xfce
[08:15] <silsabar> back to hoary :|
[08:15] <lanteau> [Chameleon] : its not finding the gnome-randr-applet...I think I need more repositories for apt, suggestions?
[08:15] <Merturk_NB> and, what release of wifi radar should I install to Ubuntu? running xfce
[08:15] <[Chameleon] > odat: missed your question amidst the noise. again, what do you mean by "doesn't install anywhere"??? It's installed; you said yourself it runs.
[08:15] <crimsun> ubuntu: what are you using to test the output?
[08:15] <[Chameleon] > odat: do you mean that there's no pretty icon in the menus?
[08:16] <brownie17> silsabar, i don't think breezy is really still stable enough for easy use yet, i would be using hoary if i wasn't too lazy to remake all my settings and accounts and stuff
[08:16] <[Chameleon] > bur[n] er: yeah, I missed sawfish for a while, but I've adjusted.
[08:16] <rob__> brownie17, that is totally incorrect
[08:16] <cius> paulproteus, your method for restarting esd worked like a charm, thanks for that
[08:16] <silsabar> i don't like this automated stuff in breezy :| is debian sid almost the same as breezy? :P
[08:16] <odat> [Chameleon] , well i'm not sure how to create a launcher for it or where it resides actually or it you need to start it each time with ./azureus
[08:16] <ubuntu> crimsun: Gnome sound effects
[08:16] <brownie17> rob__, my apologies sir, but i am hearing of way too many inexplicable erros in breezy
[08:16] <cius> chameleon, I managed to get it to work for my rear speakers, I believe
[08:16] <[Chameleon] > silsabar: go ask #debian
[08:17] <[Chameleon] > cius: kewl, how?
[08:17] <brownie17> rob__, and getting them myself
[08:17] <ubuntu> crimsun: I'd try an MP3, but they don't work by default, I guess.
[08:17] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: probably; I've got all of them enabled. you try.
[08:17] <brownie17> rob__, although the amount of new packages and stuff is good
[08:17] <rob__> brownie17, file bug reports and they will get fixed
[08:17] <silsabar> well thanks anyway :/
[08:17] <Merturk_NB> rob__, do you know what install of wifi radar I should install?
[08:17] <[Chameleon] > odat: are you in the console typing ./azureus?
[08:17] <[Chameleon] > odat: if so, type `pwd`
[08:17] <ubuntu> Totem wants a codec and I don't know how to install the one(s) it wants.
[08:17] <[Chameleon] > odat: then you'll know the path to azureus.
[08:17] <brownie17> rob__, how reliable is it? how long will it take a normal type bug to get fixed?
[08:18] <cius> chameleon, it was a setting in alsamixer, a setting called surround jack mode that I had set to "indepenedent" was supposed to be "shared".  It worked after I changed it to that
[08:18] <[Chameleon] > cius: ah, kewl.
[08:18] <odat> [Chameleon] , pwd while i'm in the directory of azureus
[08:18] <rob^laptop> brownie17, probably not long, provided you submit a detailed bug report
[08:18] <[Chameleon] > odat:
[08:18] <lanteau> [Chameleon] : What should I use to add them, and like I was using apt-setup but it doesnt give me a list to pick from
[08:18] <brownie17> rob^laptop, and why is the terminal not in the right click menu when you are on the desktop anymore?
[08:18] <[Chameleon] > odat: yeah
[08:18] <bur[n] er> !tell ubuntu about restrictedformats
[08:18] <cius> chameleon, I appreciate the help, thank you very much
[08:19] <rob^laptop> brownie17, probably a gnome 2.12 design decision
[08:19] <[Chameleon] > cius: np. so my theory about "surround" didn't hold water?
[08:19] <rob^laptop> brownie17, just add an icon to the top menu for the terminal
[08:19] <brownie17> rob^laptop, know how i can add it again? i have created like fifty new folders on my desktop :>
[08:19] <rob^laptop> brownie17, drag it from the applications menu
[08:19] <jasonb_> im trying to install using dpkg -i but i get the error dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[08:19] <jasonb_> what could be wrong? thanks
[08:20] <rob^laptop> onto the bar
[08:20] <Merturk_NB> rob^laptop, do you use wireless?
[08:20] <rob^laptop> Merturk_NB, yes
[08:20] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: I use synaptic; it's easy. Just go to the "Settings / Repositories" menu, click the "Settings" button at the bottom of the new window and check the top box that says "Show disabled software sourcess"
[08:20] <crimsun> ubuntu: aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[08:20] <brownie17> rob^laptop, the "top menu"?
[08:20] <Merturk_NB> rob^laptop, do you use wifi radar?
[08:20] <cius> chameleon, to tell you the truth, i'd have to do more indepentdent testing to give a definite answer.  :-)  In the name of empirical assurance and all.
[08:20] <crimsun> ubuntu: tell me if that sound quality is horrible
[08:20] <rob^laptop> brownie17, in gnome, the top menu bar across the screen
[08:20] <rob^laptop> Merturk_NB, not much
[08:21] <[Chameleon] > cius: heh... well; maybe one day I'll buy a 5.1 speaker set and try it myself... my nForce3 chipset audio codec already supports it.
[08:21] <jasonb_> hi im trying to install using dpkg -i but i get the error dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[08:21] <cius> chameleon, basically, i'd have to only manipulate the surround volume.  but I think that only controls the rear speaker volume.
[08:21] <[Chameleon] > cius: right.
[08:21] <Merturk_NB> rob^laptop, do you have it installed. If so, where did you get it?
[08:21] <odat> [Chameleon] , woopty doo how do you launch the friggin thing
[08:22] <goh> Hi I need to export a file as mp3. Audacity requires libmp3lame.so. May I kn0w how do i get that on my computer?
[08:22] <mannyman> crimsun: I implemented the command to mount ISO but can't see it in File Browser!
[08:22] <cius> chameleon, but thanks again, I certainly appreciate the help.   I'd been wondering about that for a while.  I guess it only took some playing with in the end in order to get things selected properly.  :-)
[08:22] <rob^laptop> Merturk_NB, its in the ubuntu repos
[08:22] <[Chameleon] > odat: I use the Command Line applet and just type "azureus/azureus" in it
[08:22] <crimsun> mannyman: did you check the /mnt directory?
[08:22] <bur[n] er> azureus is a hog ;)
[08:23] <[Chameleon] > odat: but if I wanted to make an icon, I'd just right-click the Applications menu, choose "Edit Menu" and make an entry under "Internet"
[08:23] <bur[n] er> ktorrent rules!
[08:23] <mannyman> crimsun: sorry, thank you
[08:23] <cius> good night all
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > bur[n] er: azureus IS a hog, but if I really cared, I'd just use the ncurses based client, but I don't care because I have plenty of RAM & CPU to run azureus along with a bunch of other stuff
[08:24] <toogreen_> thanks guys for earlier, i figured out how to change my fstab
[08:24] <lanteau> ahhh ok [Chameleon]  I got grandr...now do I just need like a Load "randr" line in xorg.conf or something of that sort?
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > odat: in fact, I just did make one.
[08:25] <bur[n] er> [Chameleon] : to each their own... for me ktorrent is a nice tradeoff... features i want, less ram usage than azureus
[08:25] <[Chameleon] > odat: now I can be lazy. :)
[08:25] <odat> when you are in the console and you have a directory that has a space in its name how do you access that directory?
[08:25] <[Chameleon] > bur[n] er: do you use kubuntu then?
[08:25] <lanteau> odat: cd Directory\ With\ Space
[08:25] <lanteau> or cd "Directory With Space"
[08:25] <toogreen_> now I have another question tho: my mouse and touchpad (im on a laptop) work fine except for the wheel on the touchpad... It won't scroll.. any ideas?
[08:25] <[Chameleon] > odat: surround the whole path with double quotes or escape the space entry with a backslash
[08:25] <[Chameleon] > odat: yeah, as lanteau pointed out
[08:25] <gleesond> I'm trying to install drivers for my scanner and the ./configure says it cant find the imlibgdk.pc file..... I googled and could not find a place to download it. is it already on my system just not in my path?
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: or cd Dir<tab><enter>
[08:26] <mannyman> crimsun: if an application comes with a shell script but it won't run when I double-click it, how do I install?
[08:26] <lanteau> that works too
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > :)
[08:26] <nalioth> gleesond: install libimlib2-dev
[08:26] <lanteau> [Chameleon] : so what do I need in my xorg.conf for grandr again?
[08:26] <Merturk_NB> rob^laptop, under which category?
[08:26] <odat> lkdsjflkadl'oiudfhasdhnfas;dlkhasd;cvasdjfds
[08:27] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: good question... 1 sec
[08:27] <lanteau> k
[08:27] <rob^laptop> Merturk_NB, not sure, do a search in synaptic
[08:27] <odat> i don't know what the hell you said
[08:28] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: did you resolve the issue?
[08:28] <toogreen> My mouse and touchpad (im on a laptop) work fine except for the wheel on the touchpad... It won't scroll.. any ideas?
[08:28] <Merturk_NB> crinsum, no
[08:28] <bur[n] er> [Chameleon] : i don't... i use gnome... http://burner.ath.cx/caseforKtorrent.jpg
[08:28] <Merturk_NB> crinsum, I'm still lost
[08:29] <odat> can anyone explain that like a human
[08:29] <Merturk_NB> :(
[08:29] <bur[n] er> [Chameleon] : freeing up the ram from Azureus lets me splurge on azureus for music :)
[08:29] <bur[n] er> er... amarok for music rather
[08:29] <mannyman> Anyone: if an application comes with a shell script but it won't run when I double-click it, how do I install?
[08:30] <bur[n] er> mannyman: chmod +x file.sh; ./file.sh
[08:30] <wickedpuppy> mannyman, ./script.sh
[08:30] <[Chameleon] > bur[n] er: does amarok load all tracks completely into RAM?
[08:30] <Korio> How do i make my middle mouse button work in firefox??
[08:30] <mannyman> thanks
[08:30] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, is there anything else you can think of?
[08:30] <nalioth> mannyman: usually shell scripts are run from the shell
[08:30] <wickedpuppy> Korio, my middle scrolls works without tweaking ..
[08:30] <[Chameleon] > Korio: be more specific.. "work" to do what exactly?
[08:30] <bur[n] er> [Chameleon] : all tracks???  gigs and gigs of tracks into ram?  i don't think so
[08:30] <[Chameleon] > Korio: you mean not open URLs when you click it?
[08:30] <Korio> I mean you get that umm
[08:30] <Korio> scrol thingy
[08:30] <Korio> like in windows
[08:31] <wickedpuppy> Korio, i can scroll
[08:31] <[Chameleon] > Korio: it just works for me. no tweaking required.
[08:31] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: refresh my memory where we left off
[08:31] <Korio> i can scroll too but
[08:31] <Korio> you know when you just move the mouse and it scrolls
[08:31] <Korio> the white thing that shows up
[08:31] <Korio> lol
[08:31] <wickedpuppy> ?
[08:31] <wickedpuppy> what the white thing ?
[08:31] <ubuntu> crimsun: Have any other ideas?
[08:31] <ubuntu> Or anyone else?
[08:31] <Korio> it shows up when you click the middle mouse button
[08:32] <Korio> in windows
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> oh ... i don't have it either
[08:32] <bur[n] er> Korio: i think that's a windows only kinda thing
[08:32] <caonex_> anybody using fglrx module from ati?
[08:32] <[Chameleon] > bur[n] er: no it's not
[08:32] <Korio> oh :(
[08:32] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, you asked me to boot into bios to check for pnp disabled os; my bios manager is gone; we ran a few more commands I don't remember, but ultimately, we didn't make any progress
[08:32] <bur[n] er> [Chameleon] : it's not?
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> Korio, my mouse is M$ mouse ... :P
[08:32] <[Chameleon] > Korio: open this in the URL bar of firefox:   "about:config"
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> lol
[08:32] <mannyman> Gents, "I get cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/XnView': No such file or directory
[08:32] <mannyman> "
[08:32] <mannyman> when running the install script
[08:32] <Korio> because its kind of annoying when you accidently press the middle button and it starts to reload the page or whatever
[08:32] <bur[n] er> it doesn't work for me
[08:33] <nalioth> mannyman: are you using "sudo" ?
[08:33] <[Chameleon] > Korio: in the Filter box, type this: "middlemouse.contentLoadURL". Is that true or false?
[08:33] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: ok. Your computer doesn't have a boot diskette to restore it?
[08:33] <dducko> has anyone used the xmms alarm?
[08:33] <mannyman> I'm logged in as root
[08:33] <wickedpuppy> Korio, when i press my middle scroll .. nothing happens
[08:33] <alekz> dducko, i preffer to uso my cellphone xD
[08:33] <wickedpuppy> mannyman, are you ircing as root ?
[08:33] <Korio> in firefox wickedpuppy
[08:33] <dducko> lol dont have one
[08:33] <[Chameleon] > wickedpuppy: yours is misconfigured then
[08:33] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, no. I just got it today from my workplace. it's an old laptop, and only the hardware was avalable
[08:33] <mannyman> yes
[08:33] <dducko> have it installed.. cant figure out where to access it at
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> mannyman, pls quit .. log off .. asap .. there is a reason why irc as root is not safe
[08:34] <Korio> [Chameleon] : its set to true
[08:34] <[Chameleon] > Korio: set it to false
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> and why log in as root ?
[08:34] <lanteau> hey [Chameleon]  I think I got it figured out, thanks alot, just wish i could do 85hz on 1280x1024...What resolution do you use?
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> sheesh
[08:34] <Korio> thanks chameleon
[08:34] <[Chameleon] > Korio: then you can close that tab and go to "Edit / Preferences" menu
[08:34] <[Chameleon] > Korio: then to the "Advanced" section
[08:35] <Korio> im there
[08:35] <IAmTheRad> Can I get some helps?
[08:35] <[Chameleon] > Korio: then put a check in the box under the "Browsing" section that says "Use autoscrolling"
[08:35] <nalioth> IAmTheRad: if you ask us a question
[08:35] <wickedpuppy> [Chameleon] , yah ..  but i don't scroll that way ... cause when i read slashdot , a bit of mouse movement tends to distract my view on the comments
[08:35] <Korio> [Chameleon] : i love you =)D
[08:35] <IAmTheRad> one: how can I change root password
[08:35] <[Chameleon] > Korio: thanks, but I'm married.
[08:35] <dducko> !tell IAmTheRad about root
[08:35] <[Chameleon] > wickedpuppy: that's OK.
[08:35] <Korio> IAmTheRad: sudo passwd root
[08:35] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: then you'll have to resort to Google to find if the BIOS has reserved anything specific for the sound chipset
[08:35] <bur[n] er> hrm... that's what autoscrolling is eh?  i never knew that lil thing was "autoscrolling"  thanks [Chameleon]  :)
[08:35] <Madpilot> IAmTheRad: there's no root pw by default in Ubuntu...
[08:36] <[Chameleon] > bur[n] er: sure
[08:36] <IAmTheRad> and next
[08:36] <IAmTheRad> Getting WPA working under X in ubuntu
[08:36] <ubuntu> I'm running the LiveCD now and my sound card is producing some rather harsh sounds on certain audio files. If can get it to work, I'm going to switch to Ubuntu. :)
[08:36] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, what exactly am I searching for?
[08:36] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: what did you have to to do enable randr?
[08:36] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: did you have to disable DGA?
[08:36] <nalioth> Korio: please dont advise that
[08:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell IAmTheRad about root
[08:36] <ubuntu> Certain clips, anyway.
[08:37] <lanteau> I just used the xrandr command and it worked...I guess its just that my monitor doesnt support 85hz on 1280x1024 or something
[08:37] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: pnp os
[08:37] <Korio> nalioth: hey he wanted to change the root password im not going to stop him
[08:37] <Korio> nalioth: he got what he wanted right?
[08:37] <[Chameleon] > Korio: it's not the "ubuntu way"
[08:37] <[Chameleon] > Korio: drink the Kool-Aid, man...
[08:37] <nalioth> Korio: ubuntu has the root account disabled for a reason
[08:37] <bur[n] er> lol
[08:38] <[Chameleon] > bur[n] er: ;P
[08:38] <IAmTheRad> I got it reenabled for a reason
[08:38] <flexgrip> can someone help me automount my dvd drive?
[08:38] <Korio> [Chameleon] : we dont have kool-aid here
[08:38] <Korio> :/
[08:38] <toogreen> My mouse and touchpad (im on a laptop) work fine except for the wheel on the touchpad... It won't scroll.. any ideas?
[08:38] <[Chameleon] > IAmTheRad: what's the reason? cuz you are "TheRad"?
[08:38] <[Chameleon] > toogreen: you already asked that.
[08:38] <bur[n] er> Korio: u prefer Tang?  I know I do :)  the more Tang the better
[08:38] <Korio> bur[n] er: what the heck is tang? lol
[08:39] <IAmTheRad> [Chameleon] : because if teacher sees 'myuser@myhostname' instead of 'root@myhostname' he gets mad and says I need to bring my computer to be fixed
[08:39] <Korio> bur[n] er: basicly we have coca cola products here... and cheap stuff
[08:39] <[Chameleon] > toogreen: but, check the /etc/X11/xorg.conf input device configuration.
[08:39] <[Chameleon] > toogreen: google for more
[08:39] <bur[n] er> sweden?
[08:39] <Korio> yep
[08:39] <Korio> :o
[08:39] <Korio> turkcola
[08:39] <Korio> :D
[08:39] <IAmTheRad> now, getting WPA working in ubuntu?
[08:39] <bur[n] er> and beautiful women!
[08:40] <Korio> bur[n] er: but no kool aid :(
[08:40] <[Chameleon] > Korio: tang was invented for the US Space Program. It's probably not for export.
[08:40] <[Chameleon] > Korio: ;)
[08:40] <dducko> okk off to sleep with lots of alarms.. heh.. i might be on time for work yay!!!
[08:40] <lanteau> aight [Chameleon]  thanks for the help..*goes and cries because he cant use 1280x1024.*
[08:40] <lanteau> lol
[08:40] <bur[n] er> tang also has the double-dirty-meaning head-in-the-gutter sort of thing
[08:40] <lanteau> night everyone
[08:40] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: 1 sec
[08:40] <lanteau> k
[08:40] <Korio> anyone here use irssi?
[08:41] <wickedpuppy> Korio, many
[08:41] <kevor> me
[08:41] <kevor> rules
[08:41] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: is your monitor vsync/hsync precisely configured in the xorg.conf or is it auto-detected using DDC?
[08:41] <Korio> :D
[08:41] <Korio> well can you use it for mutliple channels in the same window?
[08:41] <IAmTheRad> damnit... line 9: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[08:41] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: what's the monitor?
[08:41] <Korio> as well as servers
[08:41] <kevor> all servers are in 1 window by default
[08:41] <[Chameleon] > IAmTheRad: yeah, that's helpful. how 'bout some context?
[08:41] <kevor> channels open up a different window
[08:41] <lanteau> Its a Viewsonic and some model # I looked it up the maximum refresh rate on 1280x1024 is 66 :\
[08:42] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: ah, too bad.
[08:42] <Korio> kevor: if i join a another channel now a new window doesnt pop ip
[08:42] <bur[n] er> all servers are not in 1 window by default (guess my irssi is all tweaked though, i could be wrong)
[08:42] <Korio> up
[08:42] <IAmTheRad> [Chameleon] : Okay, okay
[08:42] <lanteau> Yeah, I always used 1024 before, but 1280 was default and I liked it lol
[08:42] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: but, as you asked, my resolution is 2560x1024
[08:42] <kevor> buy another pc :)
[08:42] <Korio> bur[n] er: could you send me your config?
[08:42] <bur[n] er> Korio: i have multiple windows...u  want that?
[08:42] <IAmTheRad> In ubuntu I would like to enable WPA in x so I don't need to be wired to connect to the 'net in X.
[08:42] <Korio> yep
[08:42] <Korio> i do :D
[08:42] <IAmTheRad> how could I do it?
[08:42] <lanteau> nice.
[08:42] <lanteau> anyways, thanks for the help, night [Chameleon] 
[08:42] <kevor> Korio: better join #irssi they know best ;)
[08:43] <[Chameleon] > lanteau: g'night
[08:43] <Korio> kevor: i tried but that channel is DEAD
[08:43] <kevor> uhm try on another server
[08:43] <kevor> like EFNet
[08:43] <[Chameleon] > IAmTheRad: install NetworkManager
[08:43] <Korio> i was hoping bur[n] er could help me *wink*
[08:43] <co_band_16> #jakarta
[08:43] <gleesond> I installed libimlib2-dev and I still get the same error about imlibgdk not being found
[08:43] <IAmTheRad> I won't need xsupplicant or wpa_supplicant?
[08:43] <bur[n] er> Korio: http://burner.ath.cx/irssi-config.txt
[08:44] <bur[n] er> er... permissions... one sec
[08:45] <Korio> bur[n] er: =)
[08:45] <[Chameleon] > IAmTheRad: I dunno what those are.
[08:45] <[Chameleon] > IAmTheRad: I'm just suggesting that you try NetworkManager. It's very nice.
[08:46] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I have downloaded a diagnostic floppy to get into my bios. can I use *.exe files in linux?
[08:46] <bur[n] er> Korio: that link should work now
[08:46] <Korio> bur[n] er: shure does
[08:46] <bob2> not if ti's touching the BIOS
[08:46] <Korio> bur[n] er: i got your password now mwhahahah
[08:47] <Korio> bur[n] er: jk :P
[08:47] <nalioth> Merturk_NB: you answered your own question
[08:47] <bur[n] er> yeah, you do ;)
[08:47] <Merturk_NB> eh?
[08:47] <[Chameleon] > Merturk_NB: what is the exe for? Is it a self-extracting zip? If so, you can likely use the "unzip" command to extract it.
[08:47] <nalioth> Merturk_NB: you d/l a floppy image
[08:47] <HappyFool> if by floppy you mean an image of a bootable floppy disc, i would guess writing to a floppy and reboot is in order
[08:48] <Merturk_NB> ok
[08:48] <flexgrip> can someone help me automount my dvd drive?
[08:48] <Merturk_NB> i thought *.exe were a no no in linux
[08:49] <nalioth> Merturk_NB: depends on the .exe. if it's important to your system, i'd boot into windows and install it to floppy. (you have to reboot anyway to make it work)
[08:49] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: "System / Preferences / Removable Drives and Media"
[08:49] <Merturk_NB> i don't have windows install on this machine anymore
[08:49] <bur[n] er> hope it works for you Korio... have a good night all
[08:49] <[Chameleon] > Merturk_NB: if the .exe is a self-extracting zip, then unzip can extract it by ignoring the executable part and just extracting the files.
[08:50] <[Chameleon] > Merturk_NB: what is the .exe? URL?
[08:50] <flexgrip> Chameleon: they are already all checked and i have to unmount it to eject and remount it
[08:50] <nalioth> Merturk_NB: ouch, you can try to unrar or unzip the exe and hope there's a usable image inside
[08:50] <IAmTheRad> where would I find these network tools?
[08:50] <traveller> i just upgraded to breezy from hoary, the whole system locks up whenever i try to access the internet, anybody knows what might be wrong?
[08:50] <IAmTheRad> after I install the package
[08:50] <flexgrip> Chameleon: could it be that i need privilages to mount and umount?
[08:51] <Merturk_NB> how do I mount the floppy in xfce?
[08:51] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: you do need to unmount to eject. that's by design. but, discs should be automounted when inserted.
[08:51] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: try the Disk Mounter applet. It's very handy.
[08:51] <mannyman> I use apt-get install to install an Opera deb package but it says "can'y find" ?!
[08:51] <flexgrip> Chameleon: Im making a mythbox with no keyboard. Is there a daemon that will help out?
[08:52] <mannyman> I use apt-get install to install an Opera deb package but it says "can't find" ?!
[08:52] <mannyman> I use apt-get install to install an Opera deb package but it says "can't find ... " ?!
[08:52] <BeGu> mannyman, we heard you first time
[08:52] <BeGu> or at least I did
[08:52] <flexgrip> It needs to automount and eject when i hit the button
[08:52] <mannyman> just correcting
[08:52] <[Chameleon] > IAmTheRad: run "NetworkManager" in the terminal, then reboot. It should automagically come up and manage your network connections.
[08:53] <[Chameleon] > IAmTheRad: there should be an icon in the Notification Tray
[08:53] <Korio> bur[n] er: where do i save that config?
[08:53] <bur[n] er> Korio: as ~/.irssi/config
[08:53] <Exodus> mannyman, did you download a deb package and trying to install it with apt get?
[08:53] <Korio> thx
[08:53] <mannyman> yes
[08:53] <Exodus> mannyman, you need to use dpkg -i to install .deb packages.
[08:53] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: hmm... good question. I don't know... I haven't had much time to get that far on my own mythtv box.
[08:53] <mannyman> ok, thanks
[08:53] <Exodus> apt-get is for repositories download/install etc.
[08:53] <Exodus> mannyman, np.
[08:54] <IAmTheRad> would it be wrong to get the KDE repository?
[08:55] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9803.3/0184.html
[08:55] <flexgrip> Chameleon: do you think i should use knoppmyth?
[08:55] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: I tried it and wasn't impressed
[08:55] <Merturk_NB> ok, this is strange. I could format the floppy, but I can't mount it. I formatted it in FAT
[08:55] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: I got the furthest with Fedora Core 3
[08:55] <mannyman> when I want to run file browser as a different user what do I type in the "Run as a different user box"?
[08:56] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php
[08:56] <Merturk_NB> i tried to format it in ext2, but nothing still
[08:56] <IAmTheRad> [Chameleon] : the networktools didn't work
[08:56] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: which TV tuner card did you get?
[08:56] <Merturk_NB> I'm in the Home directory, trying to doubleclick the floppy drive
[08:56] <[Chameleon] > IAmTheRad: BTW, I didn't say "networktools", I said "NetworkManager"
[08:57] <HappyFool> mannyman: try 'nautilus'
[08:57] <firestorm> Yikes. I have /etc/apache, /etc/apache2, /etc/apache-perl and /etc/apache-ssl  .. I have since apt-get removed apache, apache-perl  and have apache-ssl start but telnet localhost 80 fails...apache2 doesn't start. Any hints?
[08:57] <flexgrip> Chameleon: I have a ati tv wonder pro
[08:57] <IAmTheRad> well, the manager
[08:57] <flexgrip> Chameleon: NOT the all in wonder
[08:57] <mannyman> happyfool: worked, thanks
[08:57] <flexgrip> Chameleon: so it is a v4l card
[08:58] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: so it came with a remote?
[08:58] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: if so, map one of the remote buttons to the eject command.
[08:58] <fl3r> I installed ubuntu on my xp system (i made a new partition), but some how that new partition is now ext3 and not nfs, is that good?
[08:58] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: well, to a shell script that first unmounts, then ejects the drive.
[08:58] <fl3r> or it's very bad :l
[08:58] <HappyFool> firestorm: hrm. do you have any files like '/etc/init.d/apache*' ?
[08:58] <mannyman> how do I access the root home dir in Terminal ?
[08:59] <Merturk_NB> fl3r, that's how it's supposed to be
[08:59] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: you can't install Linux to nfs.
[08:59] <HappyFool> fl3r: nfs ?
[08:59] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: ext3 is correct
[08:59] <HappyFool> mannyman: 'cd /'
[08:59] <firestorm> HappyFool: yes, have /etc/init.d/{apache,apache2,apache-perl,apache-ssl}
[08:59] <HappyFool> firestorm: try '/etc/init.d/apache2 start'
[08:59] <mannyman> happyfool: I'm not logged in as rot
[08:59] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: you probably meant "NTFS", right? If so, then it's very good that it is now ext3 since you can't install Linux onto NTFS either.
[08:59] <mannyman> happyfool: root
[09:00] <fl3r> Now i have my normal :C which is ntfs, and two more. one :G that is ext3, and one small linux swap, that's normal? (the linux swap is 400 mb)
[09:00] <firestorm> HappyFool: i did and it didn't do anything...solved it by editing the apache2 script, replaced /bin/sh -e with /bin/sh -x and saw that it expected /etc/default/apache to be set to '1' instead of '0'....how "intuitive" !
[09:00] <Merturk_NB> i guess my bios is set to pnp os, b/c it has windows 98 installed on it before
[09:00] <Merturk_NB> this sucks
[09:00] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: yeah, it's normal. and the colon is supposed to come after the letter
[09:00] <firestorm> any reason why I have an apache, apache2, apache-perl, apache-ssl tree anyhow? what a mess!
[09:00] <HappyFool> mannyman: what are you trying to do?
[09:01] <fl3r> [Chameleon] , and do u know why when i log into windows, why i can't see the new partition in "my computer"?
[09:01] <mannyman> log in as root in Terminal to access the home dir
[09:01] <HappyFool> firestorm: uninstall them all (use apt-get remove --purge) and reinstall apache2
[09:01] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: I doubt the old Michael Jackson joke would be quite as funny if it went "colon C enter"
[09:01] <mannyman> to access files there
[09:01] <fl3r> lol
[09:01] <farruinn> mannyman: sudo -s -H will give you a root shell
[09:01] <firestorm> HappyFool: if I do that, will it overwrite all the configuration changes i've made to /etc/apache2 tree?
[09:01] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: because Windows doesn't understand ext3. it's in its own little world and is stupid to other systems.
[09:01] <HappyFool> firestorm: yip
[09:01] <mannyman> farruinn: thanks
[09:01] <HappyFool> firestorm: back them up first
[09:01] <flexgrip> Chameleon: Honestly im not that proficient in linux... whats your oppinion? use knoppmyth or fedora untill i learn linux better?
[09:01] <farruinn> mannyman: just be careful :)
[09:01] <bur[n] er> windows does too understand ext3... www.fs-driver.org
[09:02] <HappyFool> mannyman: there shouldn't be too many files in /root
[09:02] <firestorm> HappyFool: i've already uninstalled them albeit no --purge option....do I manually hafta rm -r /etc/{apache,apache-perl} instead?
[09:02] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: if you're trying to build a mythbox, you could try knoppmyth and if it doesn't work out, use Fedora. Or, you could just use Fedora from the beginning and follow Jared's excellent HowTo in the URL I gave you.
[09:02] <[Chameleon] > http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php
[09:03] <HappyFool> firestorm: try redoing the remove, and use --purge (i know synaptic can remove config files after uninstallation -- i guess apt-get is the same)
[09:03] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: Linux cannot safely write to NTFS (but it can read it) and Windows cannot even read ext3.
[09:03] <firestorm> HappyFool: it aint, doesn't work :)
[09:03] <prasys> captiventfs is able to write to NTFS partition
[09:03] <flexgrip> Chameleon: Yeah that how to looked really good... i wonder if it is up to date with fedora
[09:03] <prasys> but its very slow
[09:03] <Dersursine> anyone up for helping out a newbie? I had everything working, then for some reason the display got all corrupted and a reboot/logout/etc wouldnt fix it (but root login was fine). As an added note, ive deleted the user account and added it back (same with the home dir for it), but now wont start for it at all.
[09:04] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: the only filesystems they have in common are FAT12, FAT16 (aka plain FAT) and FAT32 (aka VFAT).
[09:04] <bur[n] er> !ext3
[09:04] <ubotu> hmm... ext3 is a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/wrote from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[09:04] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: Latest News (2005-08-25)
[09:04] <bur[n] er> [Chameleon] : windows can do ext2/3 via that lil app :)
[09:04] <[Chameleon] > bur[n] er: show off.
[09:04] <[Chameleon] > bur[n] er: I meant natively.
[09:05] <[Chameleon] > bur[n] er: something a simple n00b could grok.
[09:05] <flexgrip> Chameleon: thats fairly recent. Fedora is probably new though... ?
[09:05] <[Chameleon] > bur[n] er: the dude doesn't even know it's C: and not :C.
[09:05] <bur[n] er> lol
[09:05] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: Fedora Core 4 is the latest.
[09:06] <[Chameleon] > prasys: is it safe?
[09:06] <bur[n] er> Dersursine: create a new user altogether?
[09:06] <[Chameleon] > prasys: does it support the latest NTFS5.x?
[09:06] <HappyFool> firestorm: i'm running out of ideas; can you run synaptic, and see if that will let you choose 'Mark for complete removal' on 'apache' or 'apache-perl' ?
[09:06] <cevizoglu> fl3r, there are many ways around the ext3/NTFS problem... like having a Fat32 partition on the same machine, an external hard drive, a usb pen drive, or ftp server
[09:06] <prasys> [Chameleon]  , nope
[09:07] <fl3r> I've installed that fs-driver, working great now ;) cheers
[09:07] <[Chameleon] > prasys: hah, that's why I said what I did.
[09:07] <Dersursine> Burner: Tried that, now I can't get x working for it at all.
[09:07] <firestorm> HappyFool: i got sick of it and did an rm -r of /etc/init.d, /etc/, /var/log   for apache, apache-perl  ...but I must say, I'm quite disappointed at apt/synaptic having apache, apache2, apache-perl, apache-ssl installed all at once
[09:07] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: Linux cannot safely write to NTFS
[09:07] <prasys> [Chameleon]  , not really safe. While I was working on a file on my NTFS Partition , bam it made my whole NTFS partition went nuts and I lost all my files
[09:07] <prasys> I guess FAT32 is the way !
[09:07] <HappyFool> firestorm: you rm -rf'd /etc/init.d ?
[09:07] <[Chameleon] > prasys: yes. FAT32 is the best way to Linux interoperability.
[09:07] <firestorm> HappyFool: rm -r /etc/init.d/{apache,apache-perl}
[09:07] <prasys> bbbl , gonna edit my init.d (need to adjust some things)
[09:07] <flexgrip> Chameleon: Thanks alot dude... you are awesome.
[09:07] <[Chameleon] > prasys: although, Windows XP may be more stable with NTFS.
[09:08] <HappyFool> firestorm: ah
[09:08] <prasys> [Chameleon]  , i have to agree with all the experts and you too
[09:08] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: hah, sometimes I amaze myself.
[09:08] <fl3r> [Chameleon] . but he can safely write to ext2, eh right?
[09:08] <firestorm> HappyFool: i assume that is all --purge does under the hood
[09:08] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: i was a mere n00b only a few short years ago.
[09:08] <HappyFool> firestorm: you can probably run apache and apache2 on different ports, so you might want both installed
[09:08] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: Windows can apparenlty read/write to ext2/3 with some 3rd party utilities, but I cannot attest to their safety.
[09:08] <HappyFool> firestorm: well, it might remove other mysterious files too, but i think that's the idea
[09:08] <flexgrip> Chameleon: well i might be back even though i will be on fedora 4
[09:08] <farruinn> firestorm: --purge deletes any and all configuration files
[09:09] !lilo:*! http://freenode.net/philosophy.shtml#licensing has been modified to list creative commons licenses, as well as two examples of free documentation licenses, in addition to software licensing guidelines.... the page was originally written when freenode was much more centered around pure software projects
[09:09] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: I do know that FAT32 is the safest and most compatible way to go for Windows filesystems that can be read/written from/to Linux.
[09:09] <mannyman> I'm getting "cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/XnView': No such file or directory" even though I'm logged in terminal as root
[09:09] !lilo:*! comments appreciated
[09:09] <prasys> As far as I know its very safe to use FAT32
[09:09] <mannyman> this is while trying to run "install"
[09:09] <prasys> ext2 , yes its possible to read ext2 partitions in windows
[09:09] <prasys> but its really buggy
[09:10] <farruinn> mannyman: perhaps that path doesn't exist: "/usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/"
[09:10] <HappyFool> mannyman: do you have a /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults directory? i don't
[09:10] <[Chameleon] > mannyman: does '/usr/lib/X11/app-defaults' exist?
[09:10] <fl3r> ok thanks for help on that issue, i've got another one :{
[09:10] <mannyman> ok ok ok, so this is linux not Windows
[09:10] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: my wife says I have to come to bed. gotta listen to the wife. :)
[09:10] <prasys> fl3r , go ahead and ask (w00t..got 4 karma at launchpad)
[09:10] <fl3r> hehe [Chameleon]  :)
[09:10] <[Chameleon] > g'night all
[09:11] <prasys> [Chameleon]  , hehehehehehehe..night
[09:11] <flexgrip> Chameleon: do you know if fedora uses synaptics?
[09:11] <fl3r> i don't know how to connect to the internet :p (using ubuntu), in my windows i'm using a dial up though i don't know how does it work in linux :x
[09:11] <fl3r> (i'm new ;[)
[09:11] <HappyFool> fl3r: what sort of modem?
[09:12] <fl3r> speedtouch
[09:12] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: synaptics or synaptic ? they are different
[09:12] <fl3r> with 3 lights
[09:12] <prasys> fl3r : USB Modem ?
[09:12] <prasys> damn , i need 530MB to upgrade to 5.10
[09:12] <fl3r> nope
[09:12] <prasys> *to downlaod , oh well thats life
[09:12] <HappyFool> fl3r: external modem?
[09:12] <fl3r> yes
[09:13] <prasys> fl3r : if its serial no problem..hopefully its not one of the winmodems
[09:13] <HappyFool> fl3r: i'm not quite sure how ubuntu handles those -- do you have a /dev/modem ? (ls /dev/modem)
[09:13] <mustard5> fl3r, you seen this https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[09:13] <HappyFool> oh, i think the gnome config might detect it anyway
[09:13] <farruinn> prasys: apt-get clean would make some space for you
[09:13] <prasys> oh great..900bytes per second..someone is using my wifi network agan !..
[09:14] <prasys> farruinn : i'm using apt-get
[09:14] <HappyFool> fl3r: System -> Admin -> Network
[09:14] <prasys> manual
[09:14] <ShereKhan> prasys: You haven't locked it down?
[09:14] <farruinn> prasys: 'apt-get clean' will delete all of the archived .dev files
[09:14] <farruinn> prasys: .deb that is
[09:14] <fl3r> too bad i'm not on linux now :/ don't have connection there ;/
[09:14] <HappyFool> fl3r: ah
[09:15] <prasys> prasys : nope
[09:15] <prasys> farruinn : thanks for the tip (why didn't i think of that)
[09:15] <flexgrip> Chameleon: apt-get is what i meant
[09:15] <HappyFool> fl3r: well, when you're logged in, try System -> Network -> Admin; you'll see a list including 'Modem connection'; click on that and choose properties
[09:15] <[Chameleon] > flexgrip: google for "apt for RPM"
[09:15] <flexgrip> k thanks
[09:15] <HappyFool> fl3r: in the new window that pops up, click on the modem tab and choose 'autodetect' -- if your modem is detected you should be able to work the rest out (it's fairly straightforward)
[09:16] <prasys> farruinn : you see , I'm an RPM guy and now i started to use Debian-based system..i kinda miss yum !
[09:16] <nalioth> prasys: yum is son of apt-get
[09:16] <rob^laptop> yum is crud
[09:16] <farruinn> prasys: the dpkg system is a beautiful thing, you will learn to love it :D
[09:16] <fl3r> HappyFool i already tried that, and it doesn't
[09:16] <HappyFool> fl3r: ah
[09:16] <fl3r> i tried like 5 hours at night ;\
[09:17] <[Chameleon] > yum does suck
[09:17] <[Chameleon] > apt for RPM is better
[09:17] <prasys> farruinn : i guess i should get used to it..i heard many things about it !
[09:17] <HappyFool> fl3r: just to check, this is an external modem connected via a serial port?
[09:17] <nalioth> prasys: apt-get should be quite familiar to you
[09:17] <prasys> nalioth, yep it is
[09:17] <prasys> but i need to do a man again to find out what does all the other command does
[09:18] <HappyFool> fl3r: this is not adsl, is it? normal dial-up? (i see adsl hits in google or speedtouch)
[09:18] <fl3r> HappyFool, erm, i got my modem, which connected to my network card with a cable :|
[09:18] <fl3r> it's adsl ;x
[09:18] <Dersursine> how can I log into gnome as root?
[09:18] <HappyFool> fl3r: ah
[09:18] <nalioth> Dersursine: that is a "bad idea"
[09:19] <HappyFool> fl3r: that's different. i'm not helluva sure how to setup adsl -- i'm stuck with real dial-up ;)
[09:19] <Dersursine> I know, but ive pretty much toasted the whole install anyways...
[09:19] <prasys> Dersursine : don't
[09:19] <ShereKhan> fl3r: It's not just a router?
[09:19] <fl3r> 56k HappyFool? :L
[09:19] <HappyFool> !tell fl3r about adsl
[09:19] <HappyFool> fl3r: if i'm lucky
[09:19] <prasys> thats a really bad idea..don't ever login as root..you got "su" for that
[09:19] <HappyFool> ;)
[09:19] <fl3r> no i'm not using a router
[09:19] <fl3r> heh :] 
[09:19] <Dersursine> well my home folder (/home/scott) is gone
[09:19] <ShereKhan> prasys: No you don't. You got sudo for that.
[09:20] <HappyFool> fl3r: i think the wiki page ubotu has msg'ed you might help
[09:20] <ShereKhan> su == logged in as root
[09:20] <fl3r> exactly the same as i got on windows (pppoe)
[09:20] <r0d> su -
[09:20] <Dersursine> ok, so if I created a new user from inside gnome, how do I get it setup so the new user can login through gnome?
[09:20] <farruinn> logging into gnome as root user messes a bunch of stuff up anyway
[09:20] <[Chameleon] > r0d: won't work in Ubuntu by default
[09:20] <r0d> i know
[09:20] <r0d> passwd root
[09:21] <ShereKhan> HappyFool: Is it expensive? Where do you live?
[09:21] <[Chameleon] > r0d: do not suggest that
[09:21] <[Chameleon] > ShereKhan: Zimbabwe
[09:21] <prasys> yep , i had to do a passwd root !
[09:21] <r0d> im not. im giving him his answer
[09:21] <fl3r> HappyFool can i ask one silly question :p now i'm reading the guide, first thing to do is: dpkg -l | grep -i pppoe <- where the hell do i enter that command?
[09:21] <HappyFool> ShereKhan: south africa, and yes
[09:21] <nalioth> Dersursine: your new user will have their choice of sessions
[09:21] <fl3r> i only know ssh from windows to linux :p
[09:21] <HappyFool> fl3r: in a terminal (applications -> accessories -> terminal)
[09:22] <HappyFool> fl3r: a terminal is very like an ssh console
[09:22] <fl3r> everything goes trough terminal?
[09:22] <fl3r> through*
[09:22] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: everything involving directly working with dpkg
[09:22] <HappyFool> fl3r: any typed commands do
[09:22] <Dersursine> how do I get their choice of sessions? when I try to login it tells me some files are messed up, then tells me the session lasted less than 10 seconds
[09:22] <prasys> fl3r : yep you have the Terminal..it does everything for you (aka DOS)
[09:22] <HappyFool> fl3r: i guess that wiki page author is not a synaptic fan; synaptic is a gui for package management
[09:22] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: you could alternatively use Synaptic and search for "pppoe"
[09:23] <[Chameleon] > fl3r: should accomplish the same thing
[09:23] <ShereKhan> "DOS"?
[09:23] <fl3r> okey thanks alot for ur help guys! going to log into linux and i might be able to chat with you guys from there now after ya help! :D
[09:23] <HappyFool> good luck
[09:23] <prasys> ShereKhan : weel fl3r is a windows like user , i'm just trying to help him out..relating things
[09:23] <prasys> fl3r : may the force be with you
[09:24] <fl3r> ;p
[09:24] <prasys> does wpa work well with ndiswrapper. The last time i heard it has a lots of problems
[09:25] <Dersursine> man im glad i decided to do this in vmware before I actually installed it...
[09:25] <Dersursine> how do I make a user from terminal?
[09:25] <Dersursine> I forgot the command
[09:25] <prasys> Dersursine : VMWARE...eww , but its a great way to learn Linux for windows users..I really had a hard time compiling drivers for my stupid Winmodem USB Modem
[09:25] <ShereKhan> Dersursine: man adduser
[09:26] <Dersursine> ty ^^
[09:26] <alekz> Dreamglider, man adduser
[09:26] <prasys> adduser
[09:26] <alekz> * Dersursine
[09:26] <alekz> sorry ShereKhan :P
[09:26] <ShereKhan> np alekz
[09:26] <prasys> sorry ShereKhan , well you said it first..heh
[09:26] <johnjones> Hey everyone
[09:26] <prasys> hey johnjones
[09:26] <Dersursine> Ya, I'd like to have a computer dedicated to this, but all I have is a POS toshiba laptop that will be mostly useless (integerated wireless, etc) and my desktop that I use for TV and FFXI...
[09:27] <mannyman> why is installing opera in Ubuntu such a pain in the ... ?
[09:27] <r0d> how mannyman . works ok for me
[09:27] <prasys> Dersursine : I think ubuntu will replace windows' job !
[09:27] <johnjones> I just installed Ubuntu. Everything works except sounds...
[09:28] <nalioth> mannyman: because opera is a closed source commercial product
[09:28] <mannyman> so many dependencies
[09:28] <prasys> johjones : what sound card do you have and have you done a lspci probe
[09:28] <r0d> nalioth, it works fine. they've made an ubuntu package specfic to all versions
[09:28] <mannyman> is the deb package the best way to install?
[09:28] <Dersursine> prasys: my tv tuner and game dont have drivers / a linux version tho :(
[09:28] <mannyman> opera I mean?
[09:28] <johnjones> I have a Philips Acoustic Edge PSC706
[09:28] <prasys> Dersursine : gosh
[09:28] <johnjones> Whats a lspci?
[09:28] <r0d> mannyman,  did you download the .deb package from opera
[09:28] <mannyman> yes
[09:29] <nalioth> r0d: if that is so, we should not hear any complaints at 'installing it'
[09:29] <r0d> yea. just dpkg -i "package"
[09:29] <Dersursine> ok, this is retarded... the user I made with adduser works fine, but the one I did from going to root terminal and typing startx, then using the GUI to make one doesnt
[09:29] <r0d> nalioth, one person doesnt mean the package is shot
[09:29] <bob2> Dersursine: uh, so the gui tool is broken, film at a11
[09:29] <bob2> Dersursine: file a bug and move on
[09:30] <nalioth> r0d: he isnt the first
[09:30] <Dersursine> broken or I did something wrong... id guess its the second
[09:30] <mannyman> it asked for depnedencies that synaptic could not find
[09:30] <r0d> mannyman, i guess my installation was an act of god?
[09:30] <r0d> nalioth, , i guess my installation was an act of god?
[09:30] <nalioth> mannyman: download the static version from opera
[09:30] <mannyman> what's "static" ?
[09:31] <nalioth> mannyman: static means it has all the stuff the one you have is looking for, most likely
[09:31] <prasys> mannyman : it has everything
[09:31] <mannyman> I couldn't find this description can you provide a link
[09:31] <prasys> yep , it has everything bulit-in , the dep you need into one tiny package..so you don't have to hunt high and low for it
[09:31] <firestorm> Now I'm puzzled....I have apache2 installed...I want it to support SSL for obvious reasons. In synaptic I can see 'libapache-mod-ssl' available, which supports Apache 1.3 web server....but there is no equivalent for Apache 2, eg 'libapache2-mod-ssl'....any clues?
[09:31] <johnjones> Any idea how to fix my sound prasys?
[09:32] <prasys> johnjones : checking , hold on , whats your sound model again...
[09:32] <Madpilot> mannyman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[09:32] <ShereKhan> In Synaptic there is a Ubuntu-logo on a lot of the installed packages. What does this signify?
[09:32] <johnjones> PSC706 Acustic Edge by Philips
[09:32] <Dersursine> arent they calling apache2 httpd? maybe its libhttpd-mod-ssl or something like that :(
[09:32] <mannyman> thanks
[09:32] <prasys> johnjones : try asking the others too , i will see the linux usergroups to check if its a known problem or not
[09:33] <johnjones> Thanks :)
[09:33] <HappyFool> ShereKhan: help -> legend
[09:34] <nadjyla> hello
[09:34] <HappyFool> ShereKhan: i think it means supported (either that or has debconf)
[09:34] <prasys> johnjones : i got a sad news for you
[09:35] <johnjones> Great... What is it? :(
[09:35] <mannyman> Guys, I just want to say: YOU, are what makes a difference in Linux. THANK YOU.
[09:35] <prasys> johnjones : http://tinyurl.com/cruzq
[09:35] <prasys> mannyman : thank the gurus here , thank ubuntu , thank everyone
[09:36] <prasys> johnjones : the awnser is no..Philips is not providing the source. So you can't use the soundcard with Linux (any distro)
[09:36] <johnjones> Damn them >:(
[09:36] <alessandropironi> Hi. Can somebody help me? I have to upgrade to breezy, and I have a couple of questions...
[09:37] <johnjones> Thanks alot for your help though :)
[09:37] <kemik> alessandropironi: tried the topic ?
[09:37] <nalioth> alessandropironi: ask away
[09:37] <prasys> johnjones : on the other hand i suggest you to get an ALSA compatible sound card
[09:37] <alessandropironi> yes, i've seen the topic
[09:37] <kemik> aight.. well ask you Questions then
[09:37] <alessandropironi> the first is: the us.archive.ubuntu.... are still valid?
[09:37] <johnjones> Yeah, I'm looking into them now :P
[09:37] <nalioth> alessandropironi: they are
[09:38] <brownie17> johnjones, bloody commerical greedy non open-source supprting evil people
[09:38] <prasys> johnjones : i'm really sorry..but you can find a better sound card..maybe its time for you to replace it
[09:38] <prasys> brownie17 : COMPAQ is also one of them.
[09:38] <alessandropironi> in my sources.list i have both us.archive.ubuntu and archive.ubuntu. It's wrong?
[09:38] <johnjones> Tell me about it :P
[09:38] <i_feel_nubish> can anybody spare a minute to help me with apache2 configuration
[09:38] <nalioth> alessandropironi: if they're duplicate lines afterward, yes
[09:39] <johnjones> Yeah, I'm thinking about selling my PC and getting a laptop, how do they run with Ubuntu?
[09:39] <HappyFool> firestorm: hrm, i can't see ssl support for apache2 either. odd
[09:39] <alessandropironi> but they are the same thing, so i can delete one, it's right?
[09:39] <prasys> johnjones : I had many problems with my COMPAQ Presario 1700AP laptop , ACPI does not work correctly , etc. But on my iBook , everything works fine expect for Airport (stupid Broadcom)
[09:39] <HappyFool> firestorm: oh, but the apache2 package depends on ssl - does it not maybe come with apache2 ?
[09:39] <i_feel_nubish> i just installed ubuntu tonight, used synaptic to install apache2, php5, and mysqld.  the httpd.conf file is a placeholder.  I cannot find where ServerName is specified, etc.
[09:40] <prasys> johnjones : Acer has many laptops which has linux pre-installed. As you know if they come pre-installed ,you can always switch to ubuntu (as the laptop supports linux). On the other hand you might want to check out linux-laptops.net to see if the lappie fully supports linux or not
[09:40] <Dersursine> try 'sudo locate httpd.conf' and see if there are any other ones
[09:41] <prasys> johnjones : when you're going to buy a laptop. Bring the ubuntu live cd along with you , so you can test it out to see if everything works or not
[09:41] <Dersursine> how do I make a user an administrator? (the only admin i have atm is root)
[09:41] <brenner> why does my apt-cache seem to be deleted every two days or so?  i get "Couldn't stat source package list" whenever i use apt
[09:41] <johnjones> Wow, thanks. I'm going to take a look there now :) Thats going to make things easier. Thanks again
[09:41] <i_feel_nubish> sudo locate httpd.conf and sudo whereis httpd.conf return nothing.
[09:41] <BeGu> !tell BeGu about sources
[09:42] <Dersursine> sudo updatedb
[09:42] <HappyFool> Dersursine: add the user to the 'admin' group -- that should let that user do 'sudo'
[09:42] <prasys> johnjones : thats the right way of buying a laptop which supports Linux. I don't want you to regert
[09:42] <Dersursine> how do I add them to that group from terminal?
[09:42] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> i_feel_nubish, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf --> try this one..?
[09:42] <i_feel_nubish> i checked apache2.conf conf.d directory... found default file in sites-available that had virtual hosting info that specified the document root
[09:42] <HappyFool> Dersursine: 'addgroup <user> <group>' -- or check out 'man addgroup'
[09:42] <Dersursine> thanks
[09:43] <marrano> hola a todos
[09:43] <HappyFool> Dersursine: check /etc/sudoers to verify that the admin group can sudo
[09:43] <marrano> halguenhabla espaol
[09:43] <johnjones> Thanks alot for all your help & info. Ubuntu has a great community :)
[09:43] <Dersursine> ok
[09:43] <HappyFool> Dersursine: should have a line '%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL'
[09:43] <HappyFool> !es
[09:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:43] <prasys> johnjones : on behalf of everyone , thanks for supporting ubuntu. May the force be with you
[09:43] <nadjyla> :)
[09:43] <brenner> and has anyone installed the proprietary driver from ati.com (the installer version)....er, how do i uninstall it? :-/  the installer is a .run file
[09:44] <Dersursine> yup, everything setup for admin and root
[09:44] <[Chameleon] > prasys: I've heard of sales monkeys get mad when ppl try to boot LiveCDs on laptops
[09:44] <i_feel_nubish> ceLesTial_aNgeL i checked apache2.conf, not what i am looking for.  No ServerName, DocumentRoot, etc.  Just ServerRoot...
[09:44] <nadjyla> you can uninstall with the .run
[09:44] <alessandropironi> the breezy-updates archives are still experimental?
[09:44] <[Chameleon] > johnjones: good luck on your Ubuntu quest
[09:44] <Dersursine> dont ask, and dont try ^^
[09:44] <Dersursine> and dont get caught >.>
[09:44] <prasys> [Chameleon]  , yeah..one of the monkeys told me to buzz off..and I said I will contact your store manager and that money just kept quiet !
[09:44] <HappyFool> alessandropironi: eek. i hope not
[09:45] <johnjones> Heh, thanks alot. Just need a new sound card and I'm set :P
[09:45] <[Chameleon] > prasys: yep
[09:45] <[Chameleon] > prasys: either they let you try it or they lose the sale.
[09:45] <prasys> johnjones : one more thing , as said by [Chameleon]  if one of the monkeys start to ....*you know what*..just tell them to *you know what*
[09:45] <brenner> nadjyla: by running it? :-)  there's no uninstall option when i do.
[09:45] <[Chameleon] > prasys: a lot of those sales monkeys are just plain idiots.
[09:45] <nalioth> alessandropironi: they are not
[09:45] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> i_feel_nubish, it's on the sites-enabled
[09:45] <prasys> [Chameleon]  , did i ever tell you that COMPAQ aftersales and support s****..I installed ubuntu 4.10 and they said , installing linux voids my warranty
[09:46] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> i_feel_nubish, the default one point to /var/www
[09:46] <nnonix> its NOOOBIsh
[09:46] <Dersursine> I got that from HP (Compaq), Toshiba and Fujitsu.
[09:46] <cevizoglu> prasys, sucks isn't a cussword
[09:46] <prasys> [Chameleon]  , Then I ask her to give the phone to a Sen. Tech Rep and then he said it just voids my software warranty (aka windows) and not the hardware warranty..gosh
[09:46] <kemik> big surprise
[09:46] <kemik> hehee
[09:46] <Dersursine> lol
[09:46] <nalioth> prasys: they love spreading FUD, don't they?
[09:47] <prasys> nalioth : yep
[09:47] <[Chameleon] > prasys: of course. and then you can say, that's fine, I won't be using Windows anyway. In fact, you can get a refund from Microsoft if you buy a system with Windows and then remove it permanently.
[09:47] <Dersursine> noob question... whats 'FUD' mean?
[09:47] <[Chameleon] > Dersursine: Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt
[09:47] <freddy_> omg
[09:47] <Dersursine> ah
[09:47] <alessandropironi> ok, thank you all. I'll start. I'll come back from another pc, while this will be upgrading.
[09:47] <freddy_> i already have the answer for the ppl that says ....this doesnt look like Microsoft Office
[09:47] <cevizoglu> prasys, four years ago my IT department stopped by to ask if I was running Linux.  When I asked them why, they said it could introduce security holes into the intranet
[09:47] <freddy_> omg i have the answer
[09:47] <freddy_> ThinkFree OFfice....the rip off of Microsoft Office
[09:48] <freddy_> jesus christ
[09:48] <nalioth> alessandropironi: you can stay here
[09:48] <prasys> cevizoglu : did they take any actions against you
[09:48] <freddy_> they evne work together
[09:48] <nnonix> Dersursine: google --> "define:FUD"
[09:48] <[Chameleon] > freddy_: me too. "That's because it isn't."
[09:48] <cevizoglu> prasys, this was at Excite@Home, which had NO firewall and all machines were perpetually hit by hackers
[09:48] <i_feel_nubish> ceLesTiaL_aNgeL ...i found the document root...  sorry, i wasn't very clear.  I am looking for ServerName setting.
[09:48] <nalioth> alessandropironi: no special behaviors are required, you can continue to chat with us and upgrade at the same time
[09:48] <cevizoglu> prasys, it was just FUD, pure simple arrogant FUD
[09:48] <nalioth> alessandropironi: this is not windows
[09:48] <prasys> cevizoglu : I bet they don't run Windows Update on their box..gosh , they just put the blame on Linux for that
[09:49] <cevizoglu> prasys, I used to just sit there portsniffing watching people probe my machines all_day_long
[09:49] <i_feel_nubish> ceLesTiaL_aNgeL i was running redhat9 with apache2, and the entire apache2 config files are different now...
[09:49] <prasys> heh
[09:49] <[Chameleon] > cevizoglu: probably probing known vulnerable ports on Windows systems, right?
[09:50] <cevizoglu> prasys, of course, only the people who ran IIS got hacked back then
[09:50] <cevizoglu> [Chameleon] , right  :)
[09:50] <prasys> cevizoglu : true...but time has changed..these days you see , everyone is running Linux
[09:50] <prasys> at least most of them
[09:50] <[Chameleon] > you guys hear about the Apache vs. IIS stats the other day??  53 M to like 11 M installations respectively.
[09:50] <Dersursine> has anyone had any luck getting NetPanzer to work?
[09:50] <cevizoglu> [Chameleon] , awesome
[09:50] <[Chameleon] > Dersursine: haven't tried
[09:51] <prasys> brb
[09:51] <Dersursine> yay ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:51] <Jhair> 11 million instalatios of IIS? ridiculous.
[09:51] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> i_feel_nubish, i just read the manual, you can add ServerName directive to either apache2.conf
[09:51] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> i_feel_nubish, or put it under the default VirtualHost
[09:52] <Dersursine> ok, where do I go to file a bug about the users and groups tool not copying /etc/skel to new user's home dirs?
[09:52] <brownie17> why is the loading cursor for ubuntu the same as the loading icon for firefox?
[09:52] <i_feel_nubish> ceLesTiaL_aNgeL, wow... thank you very much... going to beat my head against a rock for being so ignorant
[09:52] <HappyFool> Dersursine: tried bugzilla.ubuntu.com ?
[09:53] <Dersursine> nope, didn't know about it :(
[09:53] <[Chameleon] > brownie17: it's the generic "hourglass" cursor
[09:53] <freddy_> omg..thinkfree office lol
[09:53] <apsync> how can I check a HD for errors?
[09:54] <freddy_> it is exactly the same as microsoft office
[09:54] <freddy_> same colors even
[09:54] <robotgeek> apsync: fsck it, or efsck
[09:54] <apsync> ah k thanks
[09:55] <fl3r> I'm back :) loged in & linux :p
[09:56] <fl3r> Thanks for the help <3
[09:56] <HappyFool> fl3r: cool :)
[09:56] <fl3r> :))
[09:56] <brenner> why does my apt-cache seem to be deleted every two days or so?  i get "Couldn't stat source package list" whenever i use apt, and i am forced to apt-get update to resolve it.
[09:56] <fl3r> It was pretty easy :p i just need to READ a lot :}
[09:56] <freddy_> ppl look at the office suit im telling ya...it is exactly the same as microsoft office, i cant believe it
[09:57] <nalioth> brenner: i got into your box and made it so  :0
[09:57] <[Chameleon] > freddy_: why should we care? OpenOffice.org is plenty good enough for most people.
[09:57] <viller> hi
[09:57] <brenner> nalioth: so how can i get rid of you?
[09:57] <viller> anyone here likes python?
[09:57] <[Chameleon] > brenner: LOL
[09:57] <HappyFool> viller: i've used it; #python is possibly a more appropriate forum for python discussion, though
[09:57] <prasys> viller : umm the real snake of the programming language
[09:58] <bob2> lots of people like pet snakes
[09:58] <prasys> true
[09:58] <nalioth> brenner: you are getting those msgs, cuz your local mirror isnt syncing with your apt properly
[09:58] <viller> i don't want to talk about python actually
[09:58] <Jhair> viller: I like it when the 1000s of useless phyton-* libraries are un
[09:58] <Jhair> viller: installed from my system
[09:59] <viller> someone gave me this link in ubuntuforums http://unununium.org/ omg this is an os that's almost completely made in python
[09:59] <bob2> Jhair: file a bug
[09:59] <viller> jhair: python has a lot of libraries? i didn't know
[09:59] <brenner> nalioth: so how do i resolve that?
[10:00] <nalioth> brenner: "please hang up and try your call again"
[10:00] <Mabus07> !java
[10:00] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[10:00] <Mabus07> !javadeb
[10:00] <ubotu> well, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[10:00] <[Chameleon] > freddy_: OK, this statement on their website is bunk:
[10:00] <Jhair> jtocancipa@golem:~$ apt-cache search python|grep ^python | wc -l
[10:00] <irvin> do all downloaded .deb file goes to /var/cache/apt/archive ?
[10:00] <[Chameleon] > freddy_:  ThinkFree Office 3 is made-up of three applications: Write, Calc, and Show-none of which use proprietary file formats. Instead, all three of these applications use the same file formats as Word, Excel, and PowerPoint thus enabling extreme compatibility.
[10:00] <Jhair> 660
[10:00] <bob2> irvin: yes
[10:01] <[Chameleon] > freddy_: those Microsoft product file formats ARE proprietary!!
[10:01] <Dersursine> I like the name of it... "ThinkFree"
[10:01] <viller> unununium had it's own kernel but they're changing/allready changed it to linux kernel
[10:01] <Jhair> is a mess, and I don't like it, but I don't think it is a bug though
[10:02] <bird> hey
[10:02] <bird> i just go Ubuntu!
[10:02] <enyc> 0000
[10:02] <bird> ans so far it looks good
[10:03] <[Chameleon] > freddy_: hah, that stupid crap just crashed firefox. No thank you. I'll stick with OO.o
[10:03] <irvin> bob2, i was wondering since i have installed boa-constructor, i don't see the .deb file for it
[10:03] <tmuki> i have a problem with installing breezy on iBook... I have os x installed on first partition (~15GB of 60GB hd) and now I would like to place ubuntu to the rest of the hard disk but installer can't see any partitions on my disk
[10:03] <tmuki> any ideas? I have also tried to partition it manually on another virtual term. but it doesn't help to get on...
[10:03] <enyc> mi not familiar with macosk partitions
[10:03] <robotgeek> tmuki: how is the rest of the 45gb partitioned?
[10:03] <Mabus07> is there a way to create more than 4 workspaces?
[10:04] <bird> does any one else have trouble loading google?
[10:04] <prasys> bird , nope
[10:04] <robotgeek> Mabus07: right click on the workspace applet, and change the number
[10:04] <enyc> tmuk: does that uso a special partitioning tool [?] 
[10:04] <tmuki> robotgeek: first 800k boot partition, then, 2560M swap, 20GB root and rest 18.x to home
[10:04] <prasys> tmuki , i had no problmes..you must install ubuntu on the first partition (hda1)
[10:04] <Mabus07> bird: that is a common page to be hijacked by malware
[10:04] <prasys> and OSX on (hda2) or something like that , thats how i basicly works
[10:04] <tmuki> enyc: eh, what do you mean? I partitioned it with mac-fdisk
[10:04] <enyc> aah ok
[10:04] <nalioth> enyc: what are you partitioning?
[10:04] <viller> i installed xine but it's not in the application list, how do i run it?
[10:04] <enyc> 'mac-fdisk'  ;-)
[10:04] <Mabus07> my xp machine cannot load google either
[10:05] <enyc> nali: im not ;-)
[10:05] <robotgeek> tmuki: oh, so it's already partitioned? and ubuntu installed cant see it?
[10:05] <prasys> www.google.com.my , just works fine
[10:05] <robotgeek> viller: 'xine &' in a terminal
[10:05] <Dersursine> google loads fine from oc.cox.net
[10:05] <robotgeek> tmuki: installed/installer
[10:05] <tmuki> robotgeek: first it wasn't (or, yes, there was an os x partition) but when installer couldn't see it, I partitioned manually with mac-fdisk
[10:05] <viller> robotgeek: doesn't work
[10:06] <Dersursine> well bed time for me. thanks for the help everyone. Everything seems to be working again for me ^^
[10:06] <r0d> is something wrong w/ security.ubuntu.com repositories?
[10:06] <tmuki> robotgeek: when mac-fdisk asks names for partitions, should I put mount points in there instead of swap/root/home ?
[10:07] <robotgeek> viller: shud work if u have it installed, try 'which xine'
[10:07] <nalioth> tmuki: have you tried gparted?
[10:07] <robotgeek> tmuki: guided partitioning doesn't work?
[10:07] <tmuki> robotgeek: no
[10:07] <bird> because when i hit google it takes forever to load and eventually times out
[10:07] <tmuki> robotgeek: it goes back after answerin no to new partition map
[10:07] <tmuki> nalioth: gparted?
[10:07] <prasys> bird , have you tried doing a ping at least
[10:07] <tmuki> nalioth: no
[10:07] <viller> robotgeek: doesn't give an error but doesn't work either
[10:07] <bird> but i can use this and other aspects of the web so i doubt its my connection
[10:07] <prasys> bird , if fails..use tor !
[10:08] <bird> how do i do that?
[10:08] <robotgeek> tmuki: hmm, it's been a long time. try gparted from the live cd
[10:08] <tmuki> robotgeek: ok, I'll try
[10:08] <prasys> google for Tor or join #tor
[10:08] <prasys> go to terminal and type ping www.google.com (to see if youget any respond of not)
[10:08] <prasys> or you get tor or use a proxy (if you really want google)
[10:08] <nalioth> prasys: tor?
[10:09] <bird> lol i hate to sound like this much of a nub but how do i get to the terminal
[10:09] <prasys> nalioth : yeah tor
[10:09] <fl3r> i can't open .exe file on linux right? ;O
[10:09] <robotgeek> nalioth: it's a anonymity thing from gnu, i think
[10:09] <prasys> fl3r : with Wine , yes
[10:09] <nalioth> prasys: anyone who has a tor hostmask can't come into #ubuntu
[10:10] <prasys> nalioth : well , i just wanted him to use tor for HTTP
[10:10] <fl3r> wine is a software?
[10:10] <prasys> not for IRC , as you can configure tor to allow http traffic only
[10:10] <prasys> fl3r , WINE aka run windows app in your linux box
[10:10] <prasys> i'm not sure if its installed or not , by default..go to terminal and type wine notepad.exe
[10:10] <bob2> fl3r: wine may or may not work for your particular application
[10:11] <bob2> bird: applications -> accessories -> terminal
[10:11] <prasys> but mIRC 5.x just works fine with WINE..i heard mIRC 6 too works great
[10:12] <bird> ping: unknown host http://www.google.com
[10:12] <spiral> hi
[10:12] <prasys> bird , i guess your ISP must be having problems then
[10:12] <bird> hmm
[10:12] <bob2> bird: no
[10:12] <bob2> bird: 'http://www.google.com' is not a hostname
[10:12] <bird> but i can see it just fine with windows
[10:12] <bob2> ping www.google.com
[10:12] <viller> i got wine to work
[10:12] <bird> oh ok
[10:13] <viller> but the app i wanted to run doesn't work :(
[10:13] <prasys> viller , it depends
[10:13] <bob2> viller: try http://appdb.codeweavers.com/
[10:13] <prasys> WINE can run many Windows 9X application
[10:13] <prasys> if everything else fails , you can try VMWare
[10:13] <bird> its listing off numbers around 127ms
[10:14] <bird> so then it would be a firefox issue
[10:14] <bird> ???
[10:14] <prasys> nope
[10:14] <prasys> its your Internet Service Provider issue
[10:14] <prasys> bird , in terminal type this
[10:14] <fujisan> hello
[10:14] <prasys> traceroute www.google.com
[10:14] <fujisan> is there a operator here?
[10:14] <HappyFool> bird: try maybe 'wget http://www.google.com' -- see if you get and index.html file which looks like google.com's frontpage
[10:14] <prasys> and then post the output to ubuntu's pastebin
[10:14] <prasys> fujisan : just ask your question anyway
[10:15] <HappyFool> fujisan: they're always watching us!
[10:15] <prasys> lol
[10:15] <iceman> Shit, im about pissed with Ubuntu "Breezy" just trying to install login screens and the stupid app manager, keeps telling me the files ate not bz file types .. and the files are ... help ... how to install the login splash screens ..
[10:15] <robotgeek> iceman: are you trying it from gdmsetup ?
[10:16] <iceman> i have tried from the Install manager program ... from both KDE and Gnome
[10:16] <brenner> ok, i possibly did the wrong thing by using ati's installer (.run file) rather than the fglrx driver in the repo....how do i uninstall the driver?  i can't see an option when i use the installer.
[10:16] <bird> i think i got it
[10:16] <bird> where would i find it?
[10:16] <HappyFool> bird: the directory you ran it in
[10:16] <bird> and it sayse traceroute is invalid
[10:16] <robotgeek> iceman: try it using the program 'sudo gdmsetup' ?
[10:16] <cevizoglu> iceman, you mean the gdm files?
[10:17] <HappyFool> bird: try 'ls' -- you should see index.html
[10:17] <HappyFool> bird: you can open that file with firefox to see if it looks right
[10:17] <fujisan> Does this channel provide service for kubuntu users aswell?
[10:17] <cevizoglu> iceman, try system->administration->login screen setup
[10:17] <HappyFool> bird: or just 'less index.html' and take a look at the file
[10:17] <cmug> How does Ubuntu start ESD normally?
[10:17] <fujisan> or just ubuntu?
[10:17] <[Chameleon] > fujisan: kubuntu is spoken here
[10:17] <HappyFool> fujisan: there's also #kubuntu for kubuntu, but if you don't get help there try here
[10:17] <cevizoglu> iceman, select the themed greeter tab, chose install button
[10:17] <[Chameleon] > fujisan: they are actually the same product, just different software installed on top of or along side the base
[10:18] <iceman> have been it tells me the files are notr the compressed format,
[10:18] <iceman> but they are
[10:18] <robotgeek> iceman: can u try a different theme?
[10:18] <fujisan> i know different Gui
[10:18] <iceman> there a way to cut past these to the proper location
[10:18] <cevizoglu> iceman, you're sure they're gdm files?
[10:19] <robotgeek> iceman: or send me the link to the theme, and i will try them out
[10:19] <fujisan> kde instead of gnome = kubuntu
[10:19] <bird> no dice
[10:19] <cevizoglu> iceman, what is the filename?  foo.tar.gz?
[10:19] <mannyman> I downloaded an OpenOffice 2 tar but it was all RPMs. Can this be installed in Ubuntu?
[10:19] <bird> no file
[10:19] <iceman> these all came off kde-look and gnome look
[10:19] <cmug> Please? how is esd supposed to start?
[10:19] <cevizoglu> iceman, filename?
[10:19] <robotgeek> iceman: sure, some don't work
[10:19] <bird> ... ls... so this is sorta like the putty command line???
[10:19] <HappyFool> bird: similar
[10:19] <fujisan> But Ubuntu is another gui of Debian?
[10:19] <bob2> cmug: gnome is supposed to start it
[10:19] <fujisan> or is that false?
[10:20] <HappyFool> bird: (if by putty you mean the windows terminal client)
[10:20] <cmug> bob2, it dies when I exit enemy territory
[10:20] <cmug> bob2, how do I restart it
[10:20] <iceman> 24640-Guitar-Angel_2.0.tar.bz2   there the right file type, but the installer il not read them ..
[10:20] <cmug> proper
[10:20] <bird> ya
[10:20] <robotgeek> !tell fujisan about debian
[10:20] <prasys> bird = putty and Terminal are same
[10:20] <[Chameleon] > fujisan: false
[10:20] <bob2> bird: presumably you were using putty to ssh into another machine?
[10:20] <bob2> robotgeek: it's a troll
[10:20] <iceman> i got like 20 .. and none work
[10:20] <bob2> prasys: no, they're not
[10:20] <prasys> putty = just connects to the shell
[10:21] <bird> ya
[10:21] <robotgeek> bob2: oh well, trying to help :)
[10:21] <mannyman> how do you install Open Office 2 RPMs ?
[10:21] <fl3r> i installed wine package, where do i find it now ;x
[10:21] <cevizoglu> iceman, hm... that's funny, because I've installed almost all the gdm themed files from gnome-look
[10:21] <bob2> mannyman: you don't
[10:21] <bob2> mannyman: what are you trying to do?
[10:21] <iceman> got me stumped why the installer will not read the files .. got me stumped
[10:21] <cevizoglu> iceman, but you didn't answer my question
[10:21] <mannyman> install Open Office 2.0
[10:21] <hkais> hello
[10:21] <cevizoglu> iceman, like 15 of them
[10:21] <[Chameleon] > mannyman: install Open Office from apt-get. Use Synaptic, it's a nice, easy to use, GUI
[10:22] <prasys> fl3r , type wine notepad.exe in Terminal
[10:22] <hkais> i just figuring out how to install ubuntu on an root server
[10:22] <cevizoglu> iceman, if course since you're not going to answer my question, I will go on
[10:22] <robotgeek> iceman: if you can give us the link to the file, we can try.
[10:22] <mannyman> so 100MB download is worthless?
[10:22] <hkais> anyone here who knows a howto or could tell me what to do?
[10:22] <fl3r> command not found, prasys
[10:22] <iceman> 20 different splash "login screens" so none work ... it is in my system i am sure
[10:22] <HappyFool> hkais: what is a 'root server' ?
[10:22] <iceman> i pasted one name above
[10:22] <bob2> mannyman: yes
[10:22] <prasys> fl3r , did you use synpatic to install it up
[10:23] <fl3r> yes prasys
[10:23] <bob2> mannyman: openoffice 2 is in ubuntu already
[10:23] <mannyman> thank you
[10:23] <iceman> 24640-Guitar-Angel_2.0.tar.bz2
[10:23] <mannyman> no only 1.9
[10:23] <mannyman> i.e. 2 beta
[10:23] <bird> hmm
[10:23] <prasys> mannyman : what version of ubuntu do you use
[10:23] <hkais> HappyFool: it is a server anythere, there you have rootacces, no keyboard/vga/mouse
[10:23] <mannyman> 5.10
[10:23] <bird> well it wont get the index
[10:23] <hkais> HappyFool: also known under colocation
[10:23] <robotgeek> iceman: the complete url would be nice
[10:23] <bird> but in windows i could
[10:23] <iceman> sec
[10:23] <prasys> fl3r , command not found..did you just install wine alone
[10:23] <bird> and everything else seems to work
[10:24] <HappyFool> hkais: i'm not a server guru, but you could look at the ubuntu server edition
[10:24] <prasys> did you install the add-ons
[10:24] <bird> could this be a firewall issue
[10:24] <prasys> bird , no
[10:24] <HappyFool> hkais: look here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/5.10/
[10:24] <prasys> its something wrong with your ISP
[10:24] <prasys> bird , you're on firefox right
[10:24] <bird> ya
[10:24] <yme> hi guys, just a quicky - what's a good replacement for M$ visio/flowcharting software in ubuntu?
[10:24] <fl3r> dunno exactly :/
[10:24] <prasys> hold on
[10:24] <HappyFool> bird: wget didn't work either?
[10:24] <prasys> bird : go to firefox proxies
[10:24] <bird> ya
[10:24] <bird> k
[10:24] <bird> i have it set to direct connection
[10:24] <prasys> okay
[10:25] <prasys> now set it up to this IP address
[10:25] <bird> and i have tried automatic
[10:25] <iceman> let me try installing "Gnome Specific themes ... Just i prefer the ones for kde ... but got to settle for what works ..
[10:25] <cevizoglu> iceman, that's odd, I don't see that file on gnome-look ... do you have a url?
[10:25] <bird> k
[10:25] <spiral> hi
[10:25] <prasys> bird , hold on please..let me get the IP for you
[10:25] <Whistler> how can i make program to start on boot?
[10:25] <Whistler> i use kde
[10:25] <HappyFool> bird: what error do you get? connection refused or similar?
[10:25] <bird> ya
[10:25] <bird> HappyFool ya
[10:26] <HappyFool> bird: i suggest you phone or e-mail your isp and ask them if they require you to use a proxy, and if so what the adress is
[10:26] <prasys> HappyFool : use this proxy
[10:26] <Whistler> anybody knows?
[10:26] <prasys> i use this one too
[10:26] <HappyFool> bird: alternatively you can boot windows and check proxy settings there
[10:26] <prasys> 67.155.41.98 and port 8080
[10:26] <fl3r> HappyFool, you know what is babylon right? does linux support it?
[10:26] <bird> but why would it work in windows
[10:26] <prasys> put it under HTTP..see if it works or not
[10:26] <HappyFool> prasys: i suspect it would be better to use his isp's proxy
[10:26] <HappyFool> fl3r: no, what is babylon?
[10:26] <prasys> HappyFool : true..true..
[10:27] <Whistler> how can i make program to start on boot?
[10:27] <Whistler> i use kde
[10:27] <prasys> HappyFool : but he could use this for now
[10:27] <Whistler> anybody knows?
[10:27] <prasys> Whistler : put it in the startup script
[10:27] <bob2> Whistler: what program?
[10:27] <bird> they are set to direct connection as well
[10:27] <Whistler> bob2 karamba
[10:27] <HappyFool> bird: in windows it's direct connection?
[10:27] <prasys> bird , just do what i say first
[10:27] <Whistler> so what should i do?
[10:27] <prasys> lets just see first
[10:28] <hkais> HappyFOol: I know there are the images. my problem is how to install them with no cdrom/console. only a running debian
[10:28] <bob2> Whistler: does kde's control panel have a session option?
[10:28] <bird> k
[10:28] <bird> 1 sec
[10:28] <Whistler> bob2 i cant find it
[10:28] <prasys> bird : put that in firefox , the Address I gave up and test it out
[10:28] <HappyFool> hkais: um, sorry, i'm not sure. maybe a server guru here can help
[10:28] <bird> the proxy worked
[10:28] <alessandropironi> what if i loose connection during dist-upgrade?
[10:28] <prasys> bird , i guess there is something wrong with your ISP
[10:29] <Merturk> UPDATE ON MY SOUND PROBLEM
[10:29] <prasys> bird , use the proxy for now...after a few days , switch back to "direct connection"
[10:29] <Merturk> I was able to boot into my bios
[10:29] <bob2> Merturk: please don't use all caps.
[10:29] <Merturk> sorry
[10:29] <Merturk> and, I've found some information
[10:29] <robotgeek> Whistler: you might have better luck in #kubuntu
[10:29] <Merturk> including my irq, dma, and memory ranges
[10:29] <prasys> Whistler : or #kde
[10:29] <Merturk> for my ess-1869
[10:29] <Whistler> robotgeek i asked in kubuntu but nobody answered
[10:30] <prasys> Whistler : go to #kde , ask them
[10:30] <prasys> they might know
[10:30] <bird> k
[10:30] <Merturk> there are two settings, one for a pnp chipset, and one for the audio controller
[10:30] <prasys> Whistler : if everything else fails , go to the forums and post there !
[10:30] <prasys> bird , so google works now
[10:30] <bird> 1 sec i have another computer running xp i will see what the settings are on that
[10:30] <Merturk> crimson, you still here?
[10:31] <cevizoglu> iceman, how is it gnome-look doesn't have the file you mentioned?  where did you get the file?
[10:31] <bird> ya
[10:31] <robotgeek> Whistler: type 'kcontrol' in a terminal and see if it is there
[10:31] <Merturk> I need someone to help me decode this sound information to get my sound working
[10:31] <Merturk> please
[10:32] <prasys> Merturk : it depends..soemtimes you need to get the driver
[10:32] <prasys> and compile the sound driver back into the kernel
[10:32] <prasys> a simple google search will tell you or give you an idea what to do
[10:32] <Merturk> the only driver I've found is for the windows platform
[10:33] <iceman> kde-look kde installer does not work .. im trying gnome now, just a better selection in kde ... much larger
[10:33] <prasys> Merturk : type this your soundcard chipset and linux in google
[10:33] <prasys> to see if its supported or not
[10:33] <cevizoglu> iceman, oh, I see.. you're downloading splash files
[10:33] <bob2> Merturk: you have an ISA sound card?
[10:33] <cevizoglu> iceman, the file you mentioned isn't a login manager file
[10:34] <cevizoglu> iceman, you can only use gdm files, as I said four times already
[10:34] <Merturk> bob2, it's a laptop
[10:34] <bird> prasys so what exactly did i do?
[10:34] <prasys> bird , you used a proxy server
[10:34] <Merturk> it's the ESS-1869, on a Compaq prosignia
[10:34] <Merturk> Prosignia 120
[10:34] <prasys> Merturk : www.linux-laptops.net
[10:34] <prasys> have you checked that site out
[10:34] <bird> hmmm
[10:34] <cevizoglu> iceman, where is says "type" it has to say "gdm theme"
[10:34] <prasys> linux on laptops site
[10:35] <bird> prasys well i checked my xp computer and it works fine with a direct connection
[10:35] <prasys> bird, weird..anyway just use this proxy for a whiloe
[10:35] <cevizoglu> iceman, also, I'm not sure why you're on kde-look.. are you running kubuntu, or ubuntu?
[10:35] <prasys> at least it fixes your problem (for now)
[10:35] <iceman> how to change the splash screen "one that shows the system starting "icons" at start "
[10:35] <iceman> from gnome
[10:35] <bob2> Merturk: how old is that?
[10:36] <Merturk> about 7 years
[10:36] <iceman> brb
[10:36] <cevizoglu> iceman, the system startup doesn't have icons, just one picture
[10:36] <iceman> When Ubuntu start the "Brown bar {with the icons" that scrool across" how to chang it
[10:37] <iceman> was goal in KDE .. or if possible in Gnome
[10:37] <iceman> I have KDE and Gnome insalled
[10:37] <cevizoglu> iceman, do you mean after you've already logged in, when it's loading nautilus and the other processes?
[10:38] <Atakeris> hi everyone
[10:38] <iceman> brb let me look at the order the processes take
[10:38] <robotgeek> iceman: i think u mean changing splash screen, instructions at http://art.ubuntu.com
[10:39] <robotgeek> anyways, i am taking off now. cya guys later
[10:39] <bird> whats really odd is that other web things like IRC all work fine
[10:39] <cevizoglu> iceman, yes I am a little grumpy right now, for that I apologize
[10:39] <Merturk_NB> ok
[10:40] <Merturk_NB> it seems I've found a good resource
[10:40] <bird> and i can even reach the firefox home page, i got a new theme
[10:40] <iceman> the "Brown" bar that has the icons that scrool across after yo log in ...
[10:40] <Merturk_NB> but, I've never compiled anything into the kernel before
[10:40] <Merturk_NB> http://linuxgazette.net/issue62/tag/7.html << resource
[10:41] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: I don't see instructions at http://art.ubuntu.com
[10:41] <Linad> have a nice day guys bye bye
[10:42] <iceman> Like to dump that Stupid Brown bar in ubuntu, kind of bland ..
[10:42] <marcels> Hmm are the new Breezy cd's already being shipped?
[10:43] <HappyFool> bird: can you paste the output of this on the pastebin:         printf 'GET /\n\n'|nc www.google.com 80
[10:44] <grigora> hi, I cannot hear anything through my speakers, even simple stuff that used to make noise before (clicking icons, etc) has stopped working, does anyone know if there is a setting to bring my sound back? thanks
[10:44] <HappyFool> !tell grigora about sound
[10:46] <brownie17> grigora, have you tried rebooting? or like "esd"?
[10:46] <brownie17> grigora, did you pkill esd?
[10:47] <Merturk_NB> !tell Merturk_NB about sound
[10:47] <iceman> where to find this location ?   ~/.gnome/splash.png
[10:47] <guest1871> I have a question about downloading files with firefox, anyone care to help?
[10:48] <brownie17> guest1871, what is the question?
[10:48] <prasys> guest1871
[10:48] <prasys> yeah go ahead
[10:48] <brownie17> Mabus06, what is the question?
[10:48] <cevizoglu> iceman, any file/folder which starts with a . is invisible
[10:48] <Mabus06> okay well the download seems to have stopped
[10:48] <intelikey> iceman  the tild (~) expands to your home directory.
[10:48] <Mabus06> because my connection on my linux stopped working
[10:48] <Mabus06> but there seems to be the same file (armyops230-linux.run)
[10:48] <cevizoglu> iceman, if you open the terminal, then type "ls -la", you will be able to see the .gnome  folder
[10:48] <Mabus06> with a .part extension
[10:49] <Mabus06> does this mean I can recontinue the download?
[10:49] <bird> okey now this is weird
[10:49] <brownie17> Mabus06, the resume button is not compatible with alot of browsers
[10:49] <brownie17> Mabus06, argh i mean servers
[10:49] <bird> when i set it to direct connection i can find google just fine if i use google's IP
[10:49] <Mabus06> brownie17 I am using firefox
[10:49] <bird> but not if i type it into the adress bar
[10:49] <brownie17> Mabus06, my mistake, i meant server not browser
[10:49] <Mabus06> ok
[10:49] <HappyFool> bird: have you tried this:         printf 'GET /\n\n'|nc www.google.com 80
[10:49] <brownie17> Mabus06, but try the resume button
[10:49] <Mabus06> the website said don't use a download manager because it won't work
[10:50] <HappyFool> bird: please paste the output in the pastebin
[10:50] <cevizoglu> iceman, however, by default I **think** there is no splash.png file in .gnome
[10:50] <brownie17> Mabus06, firefox's in built downloader does not count. it is not a download manager as such. they mean programs like "download accelerator" and "flashget"
[10:50] <Mabus06> my wireless connection on my linux stopped working for *seemingly* no reason
[10:50] <iceman> replacing the stupid "brown" splash bar in gnome ...
[10:50] <intelikey> iceman in any file manager you can type that in [ ~/.gnome/ ]   the location bar and hit enter.  and in any terminal you can use " cd ~/.gnome/  "
[10:50] <iceman> how to fine it ?
[10:51] <cevizoglu> iceman, hold on, I will test to see if I was able to change the splash screen
[10:51] <Mabus06> well this server has waiting times and such, so do you think I am better off just restarting the download using this xp machine?
[10:51] <Mabus06> it is a 700+MB download, over half done on linux
[10:51] <iceman> here instruction .... url link
[10:51] <bird> where is the paste bin?
[10:52] <iceman> http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8
[10:52] <HappyFool> !pastebin
[10:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:52] <bird> ??? how does it work?
[10:52] <HappyFool> bird: oh
[10:52] <Mabus06> bird: check it out, it's quite self explanitory
[10:52] <HappyFool> bird: we have a bootstrap problem since you can't browse
[10:53] <HappyFool> bird: i'll pm you
 how to fine it ? <--- ???  do you mean to display that file or to actually search for a file ?
[10:53] <bird> k
[10:53] <bird> no i can browse
[10:53] <LeaChim> VLC keeps crashing with a segmentation fault when i try and stream using http.
[10:53] <bird> if i use googles ip
[10:53] <LeaChim> what do i do? :P
[10:53] <bird> http://216.239.57.99
[10:53] <iceman> find it, don't know the name of the one gnome uses ...
[10:53] <Mabus06> bird: I already told you, you most likely have that url hijacked by spyware
[10:53] <HappyFool> bird: the ip of the pastebin is 194.145.194.141
[10:54] <Mabus06> run hijackthis!
[10:54] <raghu> LeaChim: may be memory problem
[10:54] <HappyFool> Mabus06: in ubuntu?
[10:54] <bird> on linux 0.o? i thought it was safer than windows especially on the first day
[10:54] <LeaChim> raghu, memory problem? and how do i fix that
[10:54] <Mabus06> I don't know how spyware works in ubuntu, I've only ever been infected on XP.
[10:54] <HappyFool> bird: i doubt it is spyware
[10:54] <LeaChim> bird, so, what happens when you go to google.com?
[10:54] <Mabus06> well same symptoms as my xp machine's hijacking of google's url
[10:55] <raghu> LeaChim : try reinstalling the package if it gives the same problem then change your memory card with diffrent one and try
[10:55] <Mabus06> I can get linked to google, but if I type google.com in the url field it sends me to cpanel.com
[10:55] <bird> !pastebin
[10:55] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:55] <raghu> LeaChim: only VLC is giving problem??
[10:55] <LeaChim> yes
[10:55] <LeaChim> everything else for the last 6 months has worked fine
[10:56] <LeaChim> and i'm sure i've used vlc before without it crashing
[10:56] <bird> nothin
[10:56] <iceman> there a way to search for all locations of one file type ?
[10:56] <bird> it just sits
[10:56] <raghu> LeaChim: OH! change memory card and give try
[10:56] <Mabus06> anyone have any idea why my linux's internet would stop working all of the sudden?
[10:56] <warreng> how do i play a quicktime video?
[10:56] <LeaChim> raghu, i have no spare memory
[10:56] <HappyFool> bird: nothing at the pastebin?
[10:56] <bird> but if i go to google's ip it loads very fast indeed
[10:56] <Mabus06> but my xp machine can connect just fine?
[10:56] <HappyFool> bird: can you see my pm?
[10:56] <mannyman> i've run ./firefox to setup version 1.5 beta 2 but there's no icon anywhere and when I run the previous icon I get the old version?!
[10:56] <prasys> night guys
[10:56] <LeaChim> raghu, and i've run memtest before now and that's worked fine
[10:56] <grigora> brownie17: what exactly do you want me to try doing? I have not rebooted the machine.
[10:56] <HappyFool> bird: it might be in a different window in x-chat
[10:56] <cevizoglu> iceman?
[10:56] <bird> no nothing happens when i go to 'http://www.google.com'
[10:56] <prasys> gonna call the day off
[10:57] <HappyFool> bird: oh, are you registred on freenode?
[10:57] <prasys> bye , night and good luck to everyone..catch you folks later
[10:57] <bird> whats that>
[10:57] <iceman> whats commant would i use to search all *.png files
[10:57] <cevizoglu> iceman:I figured it out
[10:57] <bird> ?
[10:57] <prasys> bird , i think your nickname has taken , try to use other nick name
[10:57] <intelikey> iceman "find <starting,dir> -name *.blah "
[10:57] <LeaChim> bird, open a terminal and type ping google.com - what does it say?
[10:57] <Mabus06> type /nickserv register password
[10:57] <prasys> bird , type this /msg nickserv register password
[10:57] <cevizoglu> iceman, first you need to backup the splash file in case you want it later
[10:57] <cevizoglu> so:
[10:57] <prasys> replace password with your password
[10:57] <cevizoglu> iceman, from the terminal, type
[10:57] <LeaChim> prasys, you can't join this channel if you aren't identified, i thought?
[10:57] <irvin> how do i install the kernel source? apt-get install linux-source-386?
[10:57] <iceman> cevizuglu where is the file located ?
[10:57] <prasys> LeaChim : i'm not sure
[10:58] <Mabus06> not true LeaChim, I joined as a guest
[10:58] <cevizoglu> iceman, sudo cp /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png ~/
[10:58] <HappyFool> how do i turn off that pm thing? mode -e6 ?
[10:58] <Merturk_NB>  I've found what appears to be a walkthrough for my sound card, but it's all greek to me. Can someone help me decipher this? >> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=ESS+Technology&card=.&chip=ES18xx&module=es18xx#intro
[10:58] <bird> it is taken
[10:58] <raghu> LeaChim: problem is either package problem(try downloading from diffrent repo) or memory.
[10:58] <HappyFool> bird: ok, paste to #flood
[10:58] <cevizoglu> iceman, then to copy your picture over the splash picture
[10:58] <bird> 1 sec
[10:58] <Mabus06> change username, bird
[10:58] <prasys> LeaChim : i think they allow "guests" , but for pming you need to be a registered user of freenode
[10:58] <bird> how do i coppy from my terminal
[10:58] <HappyFool> bird: /join #flood and paste there
[10:58] <cevizoglu> iceman, sudo cp name-of-your-picture.png /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png
[10:58] <prasys> bird , right click select the text you want
[10:58] <HappyFool> bird: select with the mouse (left-click and drag) and then middle click in the window to paste to. *don't paste here*!
[10:58] <prasys> or edit , select all and then hit copy
[10:58] <LeaChim> prasys, well, the modes for this channel indicate any user without mode +r gets sent to #ubuntu-unregged instead
[10:58] <mannyman> i've run ./firefox to setup version 1.5 beta 2 but there's no icon anywhere and when I run the previous icon I get the old version?!
[10:58] <prasys> and then paste here
[10:59] <prasys> bird : paste here
[10:59] <HappyFool> don't paste here!
[10:59] <cevizoglu> iceman, that's the only way I could see to do it, there doesn't seem to be a way to change it from the gui
[10:59] <prasys> LeaChim : really..i'm not an op here ,but my nick is registered
[10:59] <iceman> i may try to drag and drop in gui ...
[10:59] <grigora> brownie17: I tried restarting alsa by /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart, but that didn't help much
[10:59] <Mabus06> kick #ubuntu adeen
[10:59] <cevizoglu> iceman, that won't work, you will need to do it from the command-line
[11:00] <Merturk_NB>  I've found what appears to be a walkthrough for my sound card, but it's all greek to me. Can someone help me decipher this? >> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=ESS+Technology&card=.&chip=ES18xx&module=es18xx#intro
[11:00] <iceman> has to be a way to open the file brouser in root
[11:00] <intelikey> HappyFool is all that nessarry ?????   normally highlight it and just simply middle click where you want it....  no dragging.   but then i don't use gnome, it may now require that.... ?
[11:00] <cevizoglu> iceman, it's a bad idea to open the file browser as root
[11:00] <HappyFool> intelikey: isn't that what i said?
[11:00] <brownie17> grigora, try "esd"
[11:01] <iceman> name of file browser "sudo "  ? ? ? ?
[11:01] <iceman> then drag and drop
[11:01] <brownie17> grigora, i know you use ALSA, but some applications still use esd, and i think gnome is one of them?, so try it.
[11:01] <grigora> brownie17: there is no esd under /etc/init.d/ and I just tried pkill esd. didn't do much good
[11:01] <intelikey> oh HappyFool my sorry i missread you.
[11:01] <brownie17> grigora, no try just "esd" just type "esd" at a terminal
[11:01] <iceman> whats gnome file brouser ... ?
[11:02] <iceman> name
[11:02] <HappyFool> iceman: nautilus
[11:02] <brownie17> grigora, the init.d is for booting i think. and maybe you shouldn't mess with it if you don't know what you are doing
[11:02] <cevizoglu> iceman, download the splash screen to your home directory, and extract the files with fileroller
[11:02] <cevizoglu> then from the command-line, type ls
[11:02] <intelikey> i like gentoo better than nautilus  :)
[11:02] <grigora> brownie17: thanks for the heads up, but I do know what I am doing as far as init.d goes :)
[11:03] <brownie17> grigora, then my apologies, sorry i can't help
[11:03] <intelikey> but i use naut in kde sometimes too.
[11:03] <cevizoglu> iceman, then type cd and the folder name of the file you just extracted
[11:03] <mannyman> i've run ./firefox to setup version 1.5 beta 2 but there's no icon anywhere and when I run the previous icon I get the old version?!
[11:03] <grigora> brownie17: typing in esd just sits in my terminal ... doesn't do much
[11:03] <cevizoglu> iceman, then type sudo cp name-of-the-picture.png /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png
[11:04] <intelikey> grigora it will probably be started by xinit rather than init
[11:04] <brownie17> grigora, did you set up ALSA properly, or just select it in the multimedia systems selector?
[11:04] <iceman> got to be more involved that just that ...
[11:05] <pvh> I used to have a program like KDirStat but where you could choose to color the tiles based on file-type, or nesting depth, or whatever else. Can anyone think of what this might be?
[11:05] <grigora> brownie17: honestly, I didn't specifically set up anything, but as of several hours ago I could here all the sounds (booting, clicking icons, etc) so I know the setup is correct, I just think something got "switched off" and I can't hear anything now
[11:06] <cevizoglu> iceman, it's just a few steps, actually
[11:06] <brownie17> grigora, did you change any sound settings? maybe all you need is a reboot. it doesn't take that long and if it solves the problem, then it saves alot of time, if not, nop harm done
[11:06] <mannyman> help anyone?
[11:06] <mabus> How do I continue a download that I started before a reboot?
[11:06] <intelikey> grigora you might look at alsamixer
[11:06] <iceman> think i got it
[11:07] <mannyman> i've run ./firefox to setup version 1.5 beta 2 but there's no icon anywhere and when I run the previous icon I get the old version?!
[11:07] <Bulsara> Can anyone point me to a list of all the supported languages in ubuntu?
[11:07] <intelikey> mabus with wget -c <url> maybe
[11:08] <iceman> yea.. dag and drop using same file names
[11:08] <r0d> how do i make a ip alias on same ethernet device
[11:08] <brownie17> intelikey, i don't think it is that simple, for alsamixer to have affected it, he would have to have run it allready?
[11:08] <mabus> no, a download that was with mozilla
[11:08] <spinifex> I messed up the "ubuntu-device-database" submission, and it dumped the file on my desktop and told me to email it to them..   but what was the email again?
[11:08] <mabus> the filename has a .part extension
[11:08] <grigora> brownie17: I might just have to do that
[11:09] <spinifex> mabus: I believe mozilla names things .part when they are incomplete downloads
[11:09] <grigora> intelikey: alsamixer shows some bars and for Master is says OFF, not sure how to turn it ON, any ideas?
[11:09] <mannyman> i've run ./firefox to setup version 1.5 beta 2 but there's no icon anywhere and when I run the previous icon I get the old version?!
[11:09] <cevizoglu> what is the .plan file?
[11:09] <brownie17> does anybody have any idea why the hell sound isn't working at all when i play dvd's in totem?
[11:09] <mabus> yes spinifex , but I want to continue the download
[11:09] <intelikey> grigora the 'm' key maybe ?
[11:10] <spinifex> oh.  is it still listed in your download manager, mabus?  I don't know if mozilla resumes or not
[11:10] <cevizoglu> brownie17, xine > totem
[11:10] <grigora> intelikey: got it to say ON, still no go on hearing anything :)
[11:10] <Merturk_NB> *.part is a firefox incomplete download
[11:10] <grigora> intelikey: rebooting now
[11:10] <mabus> how do I open up download manager? spinifex
[11:10] <grigora> brownie17: intelikey: thanks for your help!
[11:10] <cevizoglu> hm.. time to play halo
[11:10] <intelikey> rebooting is for windows ........
[11:10] <iceman> repeat that file location one more time
[11:11] <spinifex> mabus: in firefox it's under Tools -> Downloads
[11:11] <Merturk_NB> hey people, I need help figuring out what this tutorial is telling me to do
[11:11] <Madpilot> Merturk_NB: got a link to the tutorial so we can follow along?
[11:11] <Merturk_NB> >> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=ESS+Technology&card=.&chip=ES18xx&module=es18xx#intro
[11:11] <spinifex> Merturk_NB: which tutorial?
[11:11] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> mannyman, run find / -iname firefox 2> /dev/null
[11:11] <Merturk_NB> >> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=ESS+Technology&card=.&chip=ES18xx&module=es18xx#intro
[11:11] <Merturk_NB> that tutorial
[11:11] <mabus> spinifex, there is a "pause" button but that's it... does this mean, no reinstall?
[11:11] <Bulsara> Can anyone tell me if Ubuntu supports the Thai language?
[11:12] <spinifex> mabus: reinstall of what?
[11:12] <mabus> err... continuing the download spinifex
[11:12] <intelikey> Bulsara yes i belisve it does.
[11:12] <Merturk_NB> I also have the irq, dma, and memory ranges from the bios
[11:12] <mabus> (wow... never realised how much better xchat was for irc before)
[11:12] <iceman> where was that file location again ... i want to book bark it
[11:12] <thoreauputic> mabus: try clicking the pause button - I think it's a toggle
[11:12] <mabus> thoreauputic, tried that
[11:12] <spinifex> oh.  I don't know.  When you pause it you can resume it, right?
[11:12] <Merturk_NB> for both the audio controller and the pnp stuff
[11:13] <mabus> thoreauputic, spinifex, pausing does nothing
[11:13] <HappyFool> Bulsara: Thai is listed in the 'language selector'
[11:13] <spinifex> heh sorry, dunno.  Mozilla/Firefox doesn't have the best download manager.  It's better than IE though
[11:13] <Merturk_NB> Madpilot, I've got a channel setup for this #merturksound
[11:13] <Bulsara> HappyFool, intelikey - thanks
[11:13] <mabus> >.< so I guess this means, 300MB downloaded for nothing
[11:13] <thoreauputic> mabus: if you know the complete url , try renaming the file to lose the *.part, then run wget -c <URL> from thae download directory you used
[11:13] <Merturk_NB> spinifex, I've got a channel setup for this, #merturksound
[11:14] <mabus> hold on thoreauputic
[11:14] <mabus> I will try that but I'm quite new, thoreauputic
[11:14] <thoreauputic> mabus: wget -c should resume
[11:14] <spinifex> Merturk_NB: couldn't help ya, I don't really know a lot about making hardware work on here
[11:14] <spinifex> except my tablet screen
[11:14] <iceman> what wat the path to that splash screen ?
[11:15] <thoreauputic> mabus: it isn't hard - the only thing is to get the URL right and remove the *.part suffix
[11:15] <Merturk_NB> spinifex, thanks anyway. anywhere you could point me?
[11:15] <Merturk_NB> spinifex, or someone ?
[11:15] <Merturk_NB> Madpilot, how bout you?
[11:15] <thoreauputic> mabus: what is the download directory? Make sure you  cd   to that dir
[11:16] <mabus> desktop
[11:16] <intelikey> thoreauputic mabus in the dir where the partial file is wget -c <url> should check the partial and resume the dl yes.  it can be started and stoped many times....
[11:16] <thoreauputic> mabus:  first    cd ~/Desktop
[11:16] <Merturk_NB> my problem is detailed in #merturksound
[11:16] <thoreauputic> mabus:  note the capital "D"
[11:16] <Merturk_NB> please, someone help
[11:17] <Madpilot> Merturk_NB: sorry, I don't know much about sound
[11:17] <iceman> shoot "where was that splash screen" what directory path ?
[11:17] <mabus> didn't work, thoreauputic
[11:17] <mabus> the url is not an exact file it's "http://lime.nyc.fileshack.com/fileshack/dl_file.y/fileshack/action/americasarmy/demo/armyops230-linux.run?shacku=mabus06&shackpw=gBBNG8UNJ9I"
[11:17] <thoreauputic> mabus: be specific - what happened ?
[11:17] <thoreauputic> bleh
[11:17] <mabus> so it saved a file named that on the desktop immeditaely, when it should have taken half an hour
[11:18] <intelikey> iceman you can use "find /usr -name <file.name> "
[11:18] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/
[11:18] <thoreauputic> mabus: OK that's one of those weird redirected URLs I think - ugly things
[11:18] <mabus> okay well thanks for trying
[11:18] <mabus> but my windows download has pretty much caught up anyway
[11:19] <iceman> bookmarked it ... thanks ...
[11:19] <mabus> so it's rather irrelevant now
[11:19] <Merturk_NB> my problem is detailed in #merturksound
[11:19] <Merturk_NB> please, someone help
[11:19] <StarKruzr> hi guys.  anyone know why when I went to apt-get install gallery, it hangs while trying to configure?
[11:19] <spinifex> Merturk_NB: maybe it would be best for you to try ubuntuforums.org
[11:20] <spinifex> it would save you time repeating yourself
[11:20] <Merturk_NB> spinifex, I did
[11:20] <spinifex> oh.  sorry
[11:20] <mabus> what is that thing that's called something-itories, which determines what packages you can download in synaptic?
[11:20] <Merturk_NB> there's an unanswered post there about the same issue
[11:20] <StarKruzr> does anyone know if apt keeps a log somewhere?
[11:20] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: try sending your problem to the ubuntu-users mailing list
[11:20] <spinifex> mabus: rebpositories
[11:21] <spinifex> mabus: you can set them under Settings -> Repositories in synaptic
[11:21] <Merturk_NB> thoreaputic, I already sent a hardware profile
[11:21] <Merturk_NB> with the problem included
[11:21] <spinifex> where do I email my hardware profile?
[11:22] <mabus> lol spinifex .... I knew it wasn't "suppositories", but that's all I could think of
[11:22] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: OK - any answers? And how long ago?
[11:22] <spinifex> I was fooling around with my connection and it failed to send, and dumped the profile on my desktop
[11:22] <spinifex> and told me to email somewhere, but I forget
[11:22] <Merturk_NB> yesterday afternoon, and no, not yet. I'm on here seeing if anyone knows anything helpful.
[11:22] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> hwdb@ubuntu.com
[11:22] <spinifex> thank you
[11:23] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: fair enough
[11:24] <Merturk_NB> thoreauputic, you wouldn't know anything about ESS sound, would you?
[11:24] <Merturk_NB> I found a tutorial here >> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=ESS+Technology&card=.&chip=ES18xx&module=es18xx#intro , and i'm trying to discuss in #merturksound
[11:24] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: not really - if you can grab crimsun, he's the sound expert around here
[11:25] <Merturk_NB> I was talking to him eariler
[11:25] <Merturk_NB> we were pending me getting into my bios
[11:25] <Merturk_NB> now I have
[11:25] <Merturk_NB> but, I guess he isn't around
[11:25] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, you there?
[11:25] <mabus> I was told linux is no good for gaming: this true?
[11:25] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: marked as away currently
[11:25] <spinifex> mabus: depends what games you play.  But yeah, most games are made for windows
[11:26] <Merturk_NB> i'm not use to x-chat yet, thoreauputic
[11:26] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: in what way?
[11:26] <iceman> ceLesTial_aNgeL now finding the location of the icone that splash across that splash screen ...
[11:26] <spinifex> it's more a question of the availability of linux versions, and also whether or not cedega will emulate them (or if you want to pay for or compile cedega)
[11:26] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: usually peope who are away are "greyed out" in the users list on the right
[11:27] <thoreauputic> *people
[11:27] <Merturk_NB> ah, well, that makes sense
[11:27] <StarKruzr> hi guys.  anyone know why when I went to apt-get install gallery, it hangs while trying to configure?
[11:27] <spinifex> mabus: however, in terms of running games in a fast and predictable environment, that's part of what it was designed for, heheh
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: or you can do "/whois <nickname>" and check in the server tab
[11:27] <spinifex> StarKruzr: no idea.  I think I'll apt-get that now and find out
[11:27] <brownie17> why is smeg not letting me hide oo0 writer from the gnome menu? and do any other programs depend on it? can i remove it? i have oo02 writer installed.
[11:28] <bird> im back
[11:28] <mabus> spinifex, I just want to play an online fps with decent graphics and little to no lag. I haven't ever been able to do so.
[11:28] <bird> HappyFool, im back
[11:29] <dalek> hello
[11:29] <StarKruzr> EXTERRRRMINATE
[11:29] <spinifex> mabus: I don't know a lot about its online features, but Cube is a fun fps for linux
[11:30] <brownie17> StarKruzr, the daileks? is that how you spell it?
[11:30] <dalek> i am new to linux
[11:30] <StarKruzr> "Dalek"
[11:30] <kresten> Hi! I'm trying to mount a cdrom but I get the error message: "mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist". Anybody know what I should do?
[11:30] <mabus> spinifex, can you play against other people? that's the main selling point to me
[11:30] <spinifex> StarKruzr: actually, on second thought, too many dependencies I don't have..  =P
[11:30] <dalek> i booted from a live CD
[11:31] <Madpilot> dalek: welcome to the Light Side, then. Just try not to exterminate people, please ;)
[11:31] <tmuki> interesting... gparted says disktype: unknown, but still, mac-fdisk is seeing partitions ok
[11:31] <tmuki> any ideas?
[11:31] <ubuntu> hello
[11:31] <thoreauputic> kresten: is it a SCSI cdrom? Usually the device would be /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd etc
[11:31] <dalek> how do I see my hard drives? I have 3 hdds all windows fat32 format on this computer
[11:32] <Howitzer> dalek
[11:32] <dalek> all I see on the desktop is a CD-ROM icon
[11:32] <LeaChim> dalek, open a terminal
[11:32] <spinifex> mabus: yes.  go read about it here http://www.cubeengine.com/  and there is an article on the wiki on installing it I believe
[11:32] <ubuntu> iM new at linux ive got a question about steam can any1 help me ?
[11:32] <thoreauputic> kresten: so you would mount with that or just /dev/cdrom
[11:32] <HappyFool> hi bird -- come right?
[11:32] <Madpilot> !tell dalek about mount
[11:32] <Howitzer> http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountfat
[11:32] <kresten> thoreauputic, it's an external usb drive...
[11:32] <thoreauputic> kresten: ah
[11:32] <revmoo> can someone tell my why neither xmms or rythymbox will play streaming mp3 on ubuntu? sound is working fine... i get 'unexpected end of stream' from rythymbox and no error from xmms
[11:32] <StarKruzr> spinifex: do you know if apt keeps a log somewhere?
[11:32] <LeaChim> dalek, and type: mkdir /mnt/win1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win1
[11:32] <Howitzer> dalek: the link is or you
[11:32] <ubuntu> can any 1 help me got a quest about steam and cedega ...
[11:32] <thoreauputic> kresten: and it doesn't just pop up an icon for you ?
[11:32] <Madpilot> Howitzer: please don't send people to ubuntuguide, it's out of date...
[11:33] <Howitzer> ehh
[11:33] <bird> HappyFool what channel???
[11:33] <Madpilot> !tell Howitzer about ubuntuguide
[11:33] <kresten> thoreauputic, no
[11:33] <Howitzer> not for that kind of stuff
[11:33] <Howitzer> c'mon
[11:33] <HappyFool> bird: um?
[11:33] <kresten> thoreauputic, it shows in next to my hdd in "my machine"
[11:33] <bird> HappyFool ya
[11:33] <spinifex> Madpilot: is it a good idea to endorse ubuntuguide right after a new release, considering it's not standard?  I think probably no
[11:33] <Madpilot> Howitzer: still not a good habit, because of the stuff that *is* out of date & dangerous
[11:33] <dalek> do I need to mount my hard drives? will that modify my drives?
[11:33] <HappyFool> bird: so www.google.com works?
[11:33] <lsuactiafner> !tell revmoo about restricted
[11:33] <bird> HappyFool we where in a channel
[11:33] <LeaChim> ubuntu, what is the question?
[11:33] <mabus> how can I get glx running for my onboard video?
[11:33] <bird> HappyFool bad
[11:33] <HappyFool> bird: oh, a /query window
[11:34] <thoreauputic> kresten: clicking that doesn't work either?
[11:34] <Howitzer> !faq
[11:34] <ubotu> The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation, or http://help.ubuntu.com
[11:34] <revmoo> lsuactiafner: durrr i knew this... thanks
[11:34] <Madpilot> dalek: ubotu should have sent you a message - follow that URL for help
[11:34] <lsuactiafner> mabus : depends on the card
[11:34] <kresten> thoreauputic, nope thats when I get the error...
[11:34] <lsuactiafner> revmoo : then mplayer -cache link it
[11:34] <lsuactiafner> -cache <kBytes>
[11:35] <thoreauputic> kresten: if you unplug it and plug it back in then run dmesg, you might see some output about what device the system thinks it is
[11:35] <revmoo> i dont follow..
[11:35] <mabus> lsuactiafner, 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[11:35] <brownie17> can anyone tell me why i get the following error when i load quake2? "Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[11:35] <brownie17> "
[11:35] <tore> Hi.  Is it possible to override the Live CD's default behaviour of using any available swap partitions on the hard drives?  It won't boot for me as that drive is defective (which is why I'm trying the Live CD - to recover what I can).
[11:35] <lsuactiafner> mabus : doubt you will get opengl on it.. but dont take my word for it
[11:35] <kresten> thoreauputic, [4345137.319000]  usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 127
[11:35] <mabus> brownie17, have you managed to load quake2 before?
[11:35] <brownie17> mabus, nope, just installed it
[11:35] <lsuactiafner> i cant get q4 working
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> is there a q4 channel?  ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> but libSDL is there
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> and doom3 works
[11:36] <mabus> brownie17, I'm pretty sure it doesn't work unless you buy something
[11:36] <defcon8> lsuactiafner, then install libdsdl
[11:36] <defcon8> 1.2 though
[11:36] <brownie17> why is there a duke nukem map editor in the repos, but not a duke nukem game?
[11:36] <thoreauputic> kresten: hmm - I have no idea what that means frankly - it doesn't tell you a device like /dev/scd1 or something?
[11:36] <kresten> thoreauputic, I checked fstab and it seems to be configured rigth
[11:36] <LeaChim> brownie17, possibly because the map editor is open source, the game isn't?
[11:36] <brownie17> mabus, it is in the repos. it shouldn't give me that error just because i have'yt bought sometihng
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> defcon8 : libdsdl is there
[11:36] <defcon8> 2.1?
[11:37] <brownie17> LeaChim, but who needs a map editor for a game they can't have?
[11:37] <WildZeck> lsuactiafner, or make a symlink betwen your version of sdl
[11:37] <lsuactiafner>  /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1 and the symlink
[11:37] <brownie17> mabus, and i also have the cd of the origional game
[11:37] <LeaChim> brownie17, people can install the game themselves, and then install the map editor from the repos :/
[11:37] <kresten> thoreauputic, no, there's a lot of lines like that. This was just the last one...
[11:37] <brownie17> LeaChim, i guess
[11:37] <lsuactiafner>  /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 is the symlink
[11:37] <Madpilot> brownie17: the open source part is just the game engine, not the artwork and such
[11:37] <lsuactiafner> ldconfig sees libsdl
[11:37] <dalek> erm.. firefox didn't launch for some reason then I accidently closed and lost the link you sent me about hard drive mount
[11:38] <brownie17> Madpilot, oh ok. so if i want to get a working version, and i have the cd of it. and the engine from the repos, what do i do?
[11:38] <mabus> brownie17, I installed from synaptic and got the same error so I don't knwo
[11:38] <thoreauputic> kresten: sorry, I'm out of ideas - try doing it again while running   tail -f /var/log/syslog  perhaps
[11:38] <morgs^^> hello all :)
[11:38] <lsuactiafner> WildZeck : where does q4 expect to look for libsdl?
[11:38] <dalek> madpilot can you give me the link about mounting drives again please?
[11:38] <LeaChim> !tell dalek about mount
[11:38] <Torps> lo ppl
[11:38] <morgs^^> is it easy enough to mount an iso image by console so it reads as a cdrom ?
[11:39] <LeaChim> !tell dalek about windowsdrives
[11:39] <Torps> how do i copy files from my linux machine to a windows machine over a network?
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> morgs^^ : mount -o loop /file.iso /cdrom
[11:39] <Torps> using command line
[11:39] <thoreauputic> morgs^^: yes, mount -o loop your.iso /mnt/point IIRC
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> Torps : mount the windows share.. then cp file /mnt/mount_point
[11:39] <kresten> thoreauputic, "Oct 29 11:39:02 localhost kernel: [4345356.069000]  usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 14
[11:39] <kresten> ", so that is more or less the same...
[11:39] <thoreauputic> kresten: yes
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> Torps : i prefer to use mc to copy files
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> midnight commander
[11:40] <LeaChim> kresten, you're trying to access files on the cd right?
[11:40] <thoreauputic> kresten: unfortunately I don't know how to use that information
[11:40] <kresten> LeaChim, Yep!
[11:40] <revmoo> ok so my xmms plays mp3 files fine but refuses to play streams
[11:40] <morgs^^> lsuactiafner, thoreauputic,  thankyou :))
[11:40] <Madpilot> brownie17: no idea, I just know that only the game engine was opened... asked google yet?
[11:40] <kresten> thoreauputic, ok, thanks anyway
[11:40] <revmoo> it just does nothing
[11:40] <revmoo> no error.
[11:40] <LeaChim> kresten, what does sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/sda1 /media/cdrom give you?
[11:40] <Torps> thanks lsuactiafner, but how do i mount the windows share?
[11:40] <brownie17> Madpilot, nope :)
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> revmoo : mplayer -cache kb_interger link
[11:40] <brownie17> btw, i fixed my nautilus bug
[11:41] <revmoo> what if i want to use xmms?
[11:41] <lsuactiafner>  /dev/sda1 is a sata disk.. hda would be ide cdrom
[11:41] <revmoo> ah
[11:41] <lsuactiafner> dmesg : grep hd
[11:41] <revmoo> nm :p
[11:41] <LeaChim> lsuactiafner, it isn't an ide cdrom though
[11:41] <lsuactiafner> dmesg | grep hd   <-- to determine cdrom device
[11:41] <LeaChim> it's usb based
[11:41] <lsuactiafner> ah cool
[11:41] <LeaChim> and all my usb devices come up as sd's
[11:41] <revmoo> ok so why is di.fm returning 404...
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> dmesg should return it also
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> since it should show up when you plug it in
[11:42] <LeaChim> nope, dmesg doesn't actually say the device name
[11:42] <kresten> LeaChim, "mount: specialenhed /dev/sda1 eksisterer ikke
[11:42] <kresten> " => translated to english => "mount: specialunit /dev/sda don't exist"
[11:42] <LeaChim> hmm
[11:42] <LeaChim> ls /dev/sd*
[11:42] <LeaChim> does anything appear?
[11:43] <brownie17> how do i test if 3d acceleration is installed and working on my system?
[11:43] <LeaChim> brownie17, what graphics card?
[11:43] <Madpilot> brownie17: Nvidia or ATI card?
[11:44] <revmoo> hm I'm getting connection refused and 404 errors on streams that i know workj
[11:44] <revmoo> what gives?
[11:44] <brownie17> LeaChim, it is an ATI RadeonVE i think
[11:44] <LeaChim> brownie17, type fglrxconfig
[11:44] <kresten> ls: /dev/sd*: Ingen sdan fil eller filkatalog => ls: /dev/sd*: no such file or directory
[11:44] <brownie17> Madpilot, ATI
[11:44] <LeaChim> if it says things about ATI it is - if it says things about Mesa it isn't
[11:44] <revmoo> Error: ICY-Server couldn't find requested stream, skipping!
[11:44] <brownie17> LeaChim, bash: fglrxconfig: command not found
[11:44] <morgs^^> ive just tried linspire live cd ... scared me ... not moving from ubuntu :)
[11:44] <revmoo> ^thats on digitally imported
[11:44] <LeaChim> brownie17, you haven't even got the driver installed :/
[11:45] <LeaChim> kresten, can you put the output of ls /dev on pastebin.com
[11:45] <Madpilot> !tell brownie17 about ati
[11:45] <brownie17> LeaChim, oh yeah, bugger i forgot. my card is the model below the one they make drivers for in linux
[11:45] <Madpilot> brownie17: you might be SOL for actual 3d, then...
[11:45] <LeaChim> brownie17, i'm guessing you've got a long hard road ahead of you then, and i can't help with that :P
[11:46] <Madpilot> brownie17: good luck; I'm quitting for the night
[11:46] <LeaChim> Madpilot, what's SOL stand for?
[11:46] <revmoo> can anyone help me get streaming mp3 working on ubuntu
[11:46] <kresten> LeaChim, will do
[11:46] <Madpilot> LeaChim: Sh*t Out of Luck ;)
[11:46] <LeaChim> lol
[11:46] <Madpilot> and on that note, I'm going to crash. Later, all...
[11:46] <thoreauputic> revmoo: it should work - have you tried a shoutcast stream ?
[11:46] <revmoo> yeah
[11:46] <revmoo> di.fm
[11:46] <brownie17> LeaChim, so, does this guide include breezy?
[11:47] <LeaChim> brownie17, eh?
[11:47] <revmoo> mp3s play, and my internet connection works
[11:47] <morgs^^> is there a prog like virtualdub or flaskmpeg under linux ?
[11:47] <brownie17> LeaChim, oh stuff it, don't worry about it. i'll just use windows for gaming
[11:47] <kresten> LeaChim, it's there!
[11:47] <revmoo> and yet no software on here will open a stream
[11:47] <thoreauputic> revmoo: I would try installing streamtuner and use that
[11:47] <revmoo> ok ill try that
[11:47] <mcp_dk> anyone know a repository for W32codec ?
[11:47] <thoreauputic> revmoo: while you're at it install streamripper as well
[11:47] <mcp_dk> so i cn play my wmv files
[11:47] <LeaChim> kresten, can you also stick the output of cat /etc/fstab and mount on there please?
[11:48] <revmoo> wtf
[11:48] <revmoo> streamtuner opens streams into xmms
[11:48] <revmoo> but xmms wont open location
[11:48] <kresten> LeaChim, on it
[11:48] <revmoo> what gives?
[11:48] <xukun> my windows xp guest needs to be activated. but as expected that doesnt work becouse I activated this product key on my host system. What can I do about this?
[11:48] <thoreauputic> revmoo: could be a weird redirected URL
[11:48] <revmoo> hm
[11:48] <Mestiles> what is the best client of emule for ubuntu?
[11:49] <rob^> Mestiles, amule
[11:49] <revmoo> it is
[11:49] <revmoo> cool
[11:49] <thoreauputic> revmoo: some sites use a redirect with javascript or something
[11:49] <revmoo> thanks a lot thoreauputic
[11:49] <Mestiles> thx :)
[11:49] <LeaChim> xukun, nothing legally. as far as MS is concerned they're seperate computers, so you have to buy a copy of XP for each one
[11:49] <jamie> Is there a way to list the ports on my sound card? cat /proc/asound/devices only shoes 3 of them.
[11:49] <thoreauputic> revmoo: yw :) Enjoy
[11:49] <Mestiles> rob^ you know a sources.list with amule?
[11:49] <xukun> LeaChim, hmm
[11:49] <kresten> LeaChim, They're there!
[11:50] <rob^> Mestiles, just enable the extra repos
[11:50] <rob^> !repos
[11:50] <rob^> ubotu tell #ubuntu about repos
[11:50] <thoreauputic> revmoo: streamripper is a cool app :)
[11:50] <Mestiles> !repos
[11:50] <Mestiles> oks
[11:50] <revmoo> ya i used it on windows back in the day
[11:50] <Mestiles> thx
[11:50] <rob^> bloody bot
[11:50] <thoreauputic> !+repos
[11:50] <ubotu> How to add repositories:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:50] <thoreauputic> toolong
[11:51] <rob^> ah
[11:51] <LeaChim> hmm
[11:51] <brownie17> thoreauputic, what did the + sign do?
[11:51] <rob^> how stupid
[11:51] <jamie> :('
[11:51] <thoreauputic> brownie17: outputs to the channel ignoring the flood protection ;)
[11:51] <davidbro> I am getting timed out when I try and connect to the repositories - ipv6 disabled and firefox works fine - any ideas
[11:51] <brownie17> thoreauputic, okie
[11:52] <jamie> Breaker Breaker 1 9, I need a mic check, over.
[11:52] <LeaChim> kresten, can you run gparted, wait till it finishes scanning, and in the top right corner there'll be a drop down box to select a device - what device names appear there?
[11:52] <dalek> Ah.. I've worked what the problem was. my cat was sitting on ctrl+shft+caps+tab+`+alt+windows keys.. I was wondering why I couldn't click anything
[11:52] <LeaChim> kresten, actually looking at it on mine that won't work
[11:52] <thoreauputic> dalek: hah
[11:52] <LeaChim> hmm
[11:52] <aeon17x> dalek: that's a lot of keys for a cat to sit on.
[11:52] <revmoo> btw that human circle of friends login is homoooooo
[11:52] <revmoo> :p
[11:52] <LeaChim> fat cat :P
[11:52] <kresten> LeaChim, ok
[11:53] <Coburn> what is the difference among prewiew release and candidate relaese in terms of quality of sistem????
[11:53] <dalek> well he's lying over half the keyboard
[11:53] <LeaChim> kresten, can you unplug it, stick it in again, and wait 30 secs, then pastebin the output of dmesg | tail -n 50
[11:54] <aeon17x> Coburn: candidate release is nearly the same as the final thing.
[11:54] <kresten> LeaChim, ok
[11:55] <Coburn> ok if iwant to pass from a prewiew release to candidate how i do?
[11:55] <thoreauputic> Coburn: just run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   and you'll have an upt ot date system
[11:55] <revmoo> so if i switch to the 686 kernel w/ synaptic, will it automatically add it to grub and boot with it?
[11:55] <Coburn> and if i had a modem33600
[11:55] <kresten> LeaChim, I've posted it...
[11:55] <thoreauputic> revmoo: yes
[11:56] <Coburn> my connection i to slowly or not ?
[11:56] <revmoo> k tnx
[11:56] <thoreauputic> Coburn: ah, on dialup it will take ages
[11:56] <Coburn> this my principal problem
[11:57] <thoreauputic> Coburn: have you ordered free CDs from shipit.ubuntu.com ?
[11:58] <morgs^^> when ive been using Kpackage to install a program .... it asks me for my root password, then says authentication failure, sorry.    anyone know the way around this ?
[11:58] <Coburn> no but i have the possibility to use fastweb from an internet point and i have a pendrive of 1 giga this is the way that i do now
[11:58] <thoreauputic> Coburn: well, just download the release then
[11:58] <Merturk_NB> well, my efforts for sound have been fruitless
[11:59] <LeaChim> kresten, can you pastebin the output of lsmod
[11:59] <Coburn> can i pass the release in this way and how ?
[11:59] <Merturk_NB> if anyone else want's to give it a shot, join #merturksound
[11:59] <Coburn> and....
[11:59] <thoreauputic> pass ?
[11:59] <LeaChim> morgs^^, use the right password? :P
[11:59] <Coburn> i have afraid that new release delete all hard work of setting
[11:59] <kresten> LeaChim, done
[12:00] <morgs^^> LeaChim your funny :)     ubuntu doesnt give the option for root password tho ... theres a simple input for that tho right ?
[12:00] <Coburn> i would mantained all setting and program!!
[12:00] <thoreauputic> Coburn:  run   sudo apt-cdrom add    on the new CD, then  run  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:01] <LeaChim> morgs^^, you use your user password for things using sudo
[12:01] <thoreauputic> Coburn: it will still need to download updates though - probably 50 or more MB
[12:01] <Merturk_NB> now, two need help in #merturksound
[12:01] <morgs^^> LeaChim i was using kpackage because i havent got my brain around the console yet
[12:01] <LeaChim> kresten, can you type sudo modprobe usb-storage then modprobe scsi_mod then modprobe sr_mod please
[12:01] <Coburn> thanks very much
[12:01] <morgs^^> how do i set the root passord ?
[12:01] <Merturk_NB> now, back to one
[12:02] <LeaChim> morgs^^, you don't. use your user password
[12:02] <Coburn> sorry for my inettitude
[12:02] <LeaChim> morgs^^, so you're using kubuntu right?
[12:02] <selinium_> morgs^^, you dont! :)
[12:02] <Coburn> inettitude exist?
[12:02] <selinium_> morgs^^, use sudo su to stay in root
[12:02] <Coburn> ok
[12:02] <thoreauputic> morgs^^: if you need a root shell type  sudo -i  and give your user pass
[12:02] <morgs^^> LeaChim thats what ive been giving it .....  my user password .... im using ubuntu
[12:02] <selinium_> Or what thoreauputic says
[12:02] <selinium_> hi thoreauputic
[12:02] <LeaChim> morgs^^, if you're using ubuntu why not system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[12:02] <selinium_> :)
[12:03] <thoreauputic> selinium: hi :)
[12:03] <morgs^^> then i just need to tell it where to download from in synaptic right ?
[12:03] <davidbro> Using synaptic - I get timed out of the connections - any thoughts?
[12:03] <Merturk_NB> is there a lighter gui then xfce?
[12:04] <Merturk_NB> i'm on older hardware
[12:04] <thoreauputic> morgs^^: you don't have to tell synaptic where to download from - you just need to have your sources configured
[12:04] <Merturk_NB> settings I could change in xfce to speed things up?
[12:04] <kresten> LeaChim, done...
[12:04] <morgs^^> ok cheers guys n gals :)
[12:04] <LeaChim> kresten, can you do ls /dev/s* and paste that again please
[12:04] <Coburn> is it true the news of possibility to buy an hp notebook with ubuntu preinstalled????
[12:04] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: there are lighter ones - like icewm or fluxbox
[12:04] <morgs^^> aprreciating the help :)
[12:04] <kresten> LeaChim, the last command exited with this"WARNING: Error inserting cdrom (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/cdrom/cdrom.ko): Operation not permitted
[12:04] <kresten> FATAL: Error inserting sr_mod (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/scsi/sr_mod.ko): Operation not permitted
[12:04] <kresten> "
[12:04] <selinium_> Merturk_NB, look at xubuntu
[12:05] <Merturk_NB> i'm on xubuntu
[12:05] <Merturk_NB> :-P
[12:05] <selinium_> Merturk_NB, oh.... :)
[12:05] <LeaChim> kresten, did you use sudo?
[12:05] <LeaChim> ah sorry
[12:05] <LeaChim> oops
[12:05] <selinium_> Merturk_NB, how old is your hardware? I use an Athlon 900and have no issues..
[12:05] <LeaChim> use sudo modprobe whatever
[12:05] <Merturk_NB> thoreauputic, do/have you used either? preference?
[12:05] <Merturk_NB> selinium, seven years
[12:06] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: I use fluxbox
[12:06] <LeaChim> ok kresten ?
[12:06] <ProN00b> when will there be enlightenment17 packages for ubuntu ?!?!
[12:06] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: but both fluxbox and icewm require some configuration to be really nice
[12:06] <Merturk_NB> thoreuputic, available in the package manager?
[12:06] <kresten> LeaChim, I'm on it...
[12:06] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: yes, in universe
[12:06] <Merturk_NB> ok
[12:06] <Merturk_NB> thanks
[12:06] <thoreauputic> np :)
[12:07] <selinium_> Merturk_NB, my PC is around that old... If not older! :)
[12:07] <kresten> LeaChim, It's on pastebin
[12:07] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: good fluxbox docs linked from http://fluxbox.org
[12:08] <LeaChim> kresten, unplug it, put it back in, wait 30 secs - then do that ls again, and tell me if anything's changed
[12:08] <Mabus06> !gay
[12:08] <ubotu> [gay]  the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess  Some highly ignorant folks think it's an insult of some sort.  Who can tell why?
[12:08] <selinium_> thoreauputic, I saw you recommend another burner yesterday other than gnomebaker, what was it?
[12:08] <kresten> LeaChim, ok
[12:08] <thoreauputic> selinium:  graveman ?
[12:09] <selinium_> thoreauputic, THats the one! I'll check it out! WHich do you prefer?
[12:09] <Danny|> is there anyone who could help me to figure out why my system is freezing after playing a little ET.. xorg.conf and more info here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83331 pleaseee :(
[12:10] <thoreauputic> selinium: hmm - well graveman is very simple, but it works well - gnomebaker I have just downloaded so I don't know :)
[12:10] <kresten> LeaChim, no nothing is changed...
[12:10] <selinium_> thoreauputic, Cheers, I have use gnoembaker and it seem pretty good..
[12:10] <thoreauputic> selinium: graveman is definitely worth a try
[12:11] <LeaChim> kresten, well, i'm sorry, but i'm running out of ideas
[12:11] <thoreauputic> selinium: well, I used gnomebaker in warty and it was fine
[12:11] <Albaraha> I downloaded breezy install iso and mount it in a dir. What line do I have to put in Synatpic repos.?
[12:11] <LeaChim> kresten, i'd suggest you google for usb cdrom linux, the model of you cdrom + linux etc.
[12:11] <selinium_> thoreauputic, INstalling both :)
[12:12] <thoreauputic> selinium: that's what I did too :) I just haven't tested out the new version of gnomebaker yet
[12:12] <kresten> LeaChim, Yes, well I tried that. It's actually quite strange since it worked just fin back in Horay...
[12:12] <Mabus06> can anyone give me help installing display drivers?
[12:12] <kresten> LeaChim, Thanks for trying anyway!
[12:12] <aeon17x> Mabus06: for what card?
[12:13] <Mabus06> my mobo utils cd, under the display/linux folder, gives me a link to download the drivers at http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/i810/
[12:13] <octagon_> anyone else who noticed some strange change in Rhythmbox after upgrading to Breezy ?
[12:13] <octagon_> for some reason, it will not play streams anymore
[12:13] <Mabus06> aeon17x,  Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device
[12:13] <thoreauputic> selinium: just a caution - I tried burning a music CD with graveman and it did it - but at about 30x - the result was hopelessly distorted and corrupt: a slower speed worked fine
[12:13] <aeon17x> Mabus06: yikes, don't know how to handle that one. >_>
[12:14] <deFrysk> serpentine is exellent for audio-cd's
[12:14] <deFrysk> burning that is
[12:14] <chloubs> hello is there a way to insmod my fglrx.ko at boot ? , because ubuntu is moving and old fgrlx.ko to my lib/modules , and i can't see where
[12:14] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: yes, it seems to work well
[12:15] <alex45> Hi ! Looking for a tutorial to uncompress a .bin (RealPlayer exactly). thankx
[12:15] <iceman> help, somehow i have screwed my install.. anyone can i fix a install from a older live cd ...
[12:15] <iceman> believe its a nvidi driver issue
[12:15] <deFrysk> alex45, sh blah.bin
[12:15] <thoreauputic> alex45: you don't - you run it with sudo ./RealPlayer*
[12:16] <thoreauputic> or sh as deFrysk says
[12:16] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, what happen?
[12:16] <Mabus06> ty anyway aeon17x
[12:17] <thoreauputic> alex45: use sudo , and accept the installer defaults
[12:17] <iceman> ceLesTiaL_aNgeL no idea, shut down, rebooted, and x will not start ... im on a 5.04 live cd ...
[12:17] <deFrysk> alex45, I used the rpm of realplayer and converted it to a .deb
[12:17] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: that worked OK ?
[12:17] <deFrysk> a .deb is easyer to uninstall
[12:17] <thoreauputic> true
[12:18] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, yup with some minor adjustments
[12:18] <Dblue> what i did was put realplayer in /opt
[12:18] <iceman> ceLesTiaL_aNgeL has to be a Nvidia Driver issue... not sure what ...
[12:18] <Dblue> that way its easy to unistall
[12:18] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> did you upgrade your kernel?
[12:18] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, did you upgrade your kernel?
[12:18] <thoreauputic> ah - minor adjustments ;) Well mine is in /usr/local so I can just delete the directory I guess (if I need to)
[12:19] <iceman> ceLesTiaL_aNgeL no, i think it's a incomplete nvidia driver install... but how to gain root acces to the harddrive ?
[12:19] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, or did you change Xorg.conf?
[12:19] <iceman> and reconfigure the drivers
[12:20] <alex45> thanks guys..; so I decompressed in 'hxsetup' dir ... and now how to launch Real pliz ?
[12:20] <iceman> ceLesTiaL_aNgeL I'm still lost, think i rebooted since i installed the nvidia drivers ... I restarted X ...
[12:20] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, this is how i did it (I made simple howto) http://johanvrt.tomaatnet.nl/realplayer.txt
[12:20] <Merturk_NB> sound update
[12:20] <iceman> How can i fix ?
[12:20] <Dblue> in the directory ./realplay ... or ./realplayer
[12:21] <Dblue> don't remember exactly
[12:21] <Merturk_NB> i just recieved an email from a gentleman with the same sound card as me
[12:21] <Merturk_NB> and, I'm trying to now setup my sound
[12:21] <Merturk_NB> where is the asound.conf file in Ubuntu?
[12:21] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: it doesn't use asound.conf  afaik
[12:22] <iceman> how to locate the log on the harddrive ?
[12:22] <Merturk_NB> thoreauputic, could I simply create this file?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: the default config should work fine
[12:22] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:22] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: erm - that's used with dmmix - which is already configured in breezy
[12:22] <thoreauputic> *dmix
[12:23] <Merturk_NB> breezy?
[12:23] <iceman> ceLesTiaL_aNgeL what part would i want to look at ?
[12:23] <thoreauputic> 5.10
[12:23] <Merturk_NB> is there anyway to directly edit that firl?
[12:23] <Merturk_NB> er
[12:23] <Merturk_NB> file*
[12:23] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: what do you need to do?
[12:23] <iceman> ceLesTiaL_aNgeL Thats a big file ...
[12:24] <Merturk_NB> there are lines of code, aparently, that this gentleman has produced that work with his wound
[12:24] <Merturk_NB> sound*
[12:24] <Merturk_NB> these need to be added to the asound.conf and the modules.conf
[12:24] <chloubs> hello is there a way to insmod my fglrx.ko at boot ? , because ubuntu is moving and old fgrlx.ko to my lib/modules , and i can't see how
[12:24] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: id he using ubuntu? And the same release as you?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> 8is
[12:24] <thoreauputic> bah
[12:24] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, lines with ERROR...
[12:25] <Merturk_NB> he's using 2.4, but I don't know what distro
[12:25] <alex45> i uncompressed my .bin what next to run realplayer please ?
[12:25] <Jhair> chloubs: just enter the name of the module in /etc/modules
[12:25] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, those lines begin with (EE)
[12:25] <Merturk_NB> but, it's the best lead I've had so far
[12:25] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: I would avoid following his advice then
[12:26] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: what is the problem you have?
[12:26] <iceman> frozen system for some reason ?
[12:26] <Merturk_NB> sound not detected
[12:26] <Merturk_NB> the hardware
[12:26] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep -i "(EE)"
[12:26] <Mabus06> I have a wireless home network with an XP machine and an Ubuntu machine.
[12:26] <Mabus06> How do I transfer files from Ubuntu to XP?
[12:26] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: I suggest you ask on the users mailing list
[12:26] <dalek> okee dokee, being a newbie, I couldn't make head nor tail out of any of those links about mounting drives I was given. So anyway, I clicked on system>administration>Disks, selected some hard drives from the list, clicked the partition tab, entered an access path  and clicked enable. Now I can browse the drives but they are all set to read only. How do I make them read/writable?
[12:26] <Merturk_NB> intelitype, crimsun, and one or two others have tried
[12:26] <iceman> got to kill gedit
[12:26] <chloubs> Jhair, ok , but ubuntu move an old 8.16.20 fglrx.ko to my /lib/module , so modprobe load an old version
[12:26] <Merturk_NB> can I get a link?
[12:27] <Merturk_NB> i need to get about 30 mins of sleep before I have to fix my truck
[12:27] <Merturk_NB> :-/
[12:27] <[devil-boy] > greetings
[12:27] <[devil-boy] > to every debian in here
[12:27] <iceman> weird gedit frozen
[12:28] <housetier> I want to compile something and have met most of the dependencies by installing various -dev packages. however, I have no idea what to do to get around this error message from ./configure: "configure: error: X development libraries not found". which package do I install?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> housetier:  try xlibs-dev
[12:28] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, killall gedit
[12:28] <Merturk_NB> oops
[12:28] <Merturk_NB> i don't remember quitting
[12:28] <Merturk_NB> can I get that mailing list please?
[12:29] <housetier> thoreauputic thats already installed
[12:29] <HappyFool> housetier: another option is x-window-system-dev
[12:29] <iceman> nothing with ee that stands out
[12:29] <thoreauputic> housetier: yes, HappyFool 's suggestion would probably add most things
[12:29] <HappyFool> housetier: some weirder packages require specialized x -dev stuff; if that still doesn't work, put config.log up on the pastebin and maybe we can guess at other -dev packages
[12:30] <housetier> HappyFool thoreauputic x-window-system-dev is already installed as well
[12:30] <thoreauputic> Merturk_NB: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[12:30] <iceman> Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0   several warning lines ?
[12:30] <dalek> erm.. ok... I did nothing at all. I just sat here and suddenly all my hard drives weren't readonly anymore Is my computer magic or somehting?
[12:30] <Merturk_NB> thank you again
[12:30] <HappyFool> housetier: what app is this?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> housetier: what are you installing/compiling ?
[12:30] <HappyFool> heh
[12:30] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:30] <HappyFool> "standard questions to ask people compiling software"
[12:30] <iceman> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
[12:30] <iceman> 	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
[12:30] <iceman> 	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[12:30] <iceman> one
[12:31] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, i have several WW lines too, but X just works
[12:31] <housetier> HappyFool thoreauputic I am trying to compile rox-session, as the injected version seems to need a slightly older dbus-glib-1 than I have here. the precompiled packages are way too old
[12:31] <thoreauputic> housetier: ah, that sounds tricky
[12:32] <iceman> i got ww's also
[12:32] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, when u reboot, did u encounter a screen that asked about X error ?
[12:32] <Mabus06> hey, mustard5
[12:32] <pluffsy> hello
[12:32] <housetier> thoreauputic I had the same problem with compiling mplayer the other day. I fear the package(s) might be broken
[12:32] <St^Anger^19m> how can i view the shared folders of another PC on the LAN with Win2k? I have installed SAMBA on my Ubuntu
[12:32] <iceman> it was a scrambled error ... yes there was a screen
[12:32] <mustard5> Mabus06, yo
[12:32] <iceman> (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
[12:32] <iceman> 	Entry deleted from font path.
[12:32] <iceman> (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID" does not exist.
[12:32] <iceman> 	Entry deleted from font path.
[12:32] <iceman> (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID".
[12:32] <iceman> 	Entry deleted from font path.
[12:32] <iceman> 	(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID").
[12:32] <iceman> sorry
[12:33] <thoreauputic> !lart iceman
[12:33] <Mabus06> mustard5, even with PCI enabled, it no longer freezes at hotplug (updated BIOS)
[12:33] <thoreauputic> iceman: don't do it again
[12:33] <iceman> np
[12:33] <pluffsy> I just got the "new updates avalible" window for the first time. And I can't get it to go away. I clicked show updates and installed the stuff it told me to, but it didn't go away so I tried pressing tell me about this later a few times, but nothing happens. Any ideas?
[12:33] <iceman> i know pastbit or flood ... ;(
[12:34] <iceman> missing fonts ?
[12:34] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, did you just upgrade your kernel?
[12:34] <mustard5> Mabus06, all fixed? what was the problem?
[12:34] <dalek> on this page http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp what is difference between java for linux and java for linux RPM?
[12:34] <iceman> no kernel upgrade ?
[12:34] <mustard5> Mabus06, bios update ok
[12:34] <HappyFool> !tell dalek about javadeb
[12:35] <HappyFool> if you must get it from java.com, don't use the rpm; rpm's are for redhat and derived distributions
[12:35] <deFrysk> dalek, I would not use the rpm for java
[12:35] <mustard5> Mabus06, I've never updated my BIOS before....
[12:35] <iceman> Can i boot in recovery mode and get x running ?
[12:35] <St^Anger^19m> how can i view the shared folders of another PC on the LAN with Win2k? I have installed SAMBA on my Ubuntu?
[12:35] <St^Anger^19m> !samba
[12:35] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:35] <delta> Hi.
[12:35] <Mabus06> mustard5, but now it does not give me any video output whatsoever through my pci!
[12:35] <moo> what group do i have to be in to access mounted drives(ntfs)? I added myself to group disk but that didnt do it
[12:35] <Mabus06> mustard5, even at bios!
[12:36] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, try to uninstall nvidia driver
[12:36] <moo> or should i just fstab it and give it the user option..
[12:36] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, no need to go to recovery mode
[12:36] <HappyFool> moo: try the 'umask' option in fstab
[12:36] <HappyFool> moo: umask=000 should do it
[12:36] <mustard5> Mabus06, ah ok... still not functioning fully :)
[12:36] <thoreauputic> moo: try  users, umask=022
[12:36] <iceman> ok,, from a command line shell, I got no chat ..
[12:36] <iceman> brb
[12:36] <mustard5> Mabus06, you're making progress though :)
[12:36] <moo> 000 or 022? :o
[12:37] <Mabus06> mustard5, sideways progress
[12:37] <iceman> or can i from the live cd someway
[12:37] <HappyFool> doesn't matter; should be read-only anyway
[12:37] <mustard5> Mabus06, :)
[12:37] <thoreauputic> moo: 022 - it's read only
[12:37] <moo> i take it 22 is the read only
[12:37] <moo> :p k
[12:37] <Mabus06> mustard5, before updating bios I could at least get output from my PCI card... but it would freeze. Now it doesn't freeze but I don't get output.
[12:37] <thoreauputic> moo: althoughit doesn't make much diff I guess
[12:37] <moo> i just need to be on these disks a couple weeks to migrate my windows stuff over
[12:38] <moo> then itll be ext3
[12:38] <mustard5> Mabus06, I would suggest you try the nvidia forums..their is a linux specific section
[12:38] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> iceman, um, don't know about that...sorry
[12:38] <iceman> Any way to Fix from LIVE CD ... or do i need to Boot to Harddrive ..
[12:38] <[devil-boy] > hey peeps i'm having problems setting up my keyboard
[12:38] <moo> btw nvidia-settings is a cool app, who made it?
[12:38] <iceman> ill boot
[12:38] <mustard5> Mabus06, I believe the actual developers visit the forums...or so I have heard
[12:38] <Mabus06> mustard5, I have more or less given up
[12:38] <housetier> this is what "it" says in the terminal http://paste.husk.org/4507 and this is config.log http://paste.husk.org/4508
[12:39] <Mabus06> mustard5, all the gurus who have tried to help me gave up, and I'm far from a guru
[12:39] <[devil-boy] > http://www.antoniocheca.com/wp/content-text/ubuntu-inspiron6000.html
[12:39] <Mabus06> mustard5, I will bring my computer to the shop later
[12:39] <moo> heh wow, linux copies my mp3 collection in like 15 mins less than windows took
[12:40] <HappyFool> housetier: that config.log is a bit empty... ?
[12:40] <mustard5> Mabus06, you think its busted in some way?
[12:40] <dalek> does anyone here know how to run wordbiz from linux?
[12:40] <Mabus06> mustard5, I doubt it
[12:40] <harrybuntu> hi
[12:41] <housetier> HappyFool indeed it is
[12:41] <thoreauputic> heh - I keep learning new things - try  typing   look  <first few letters of word> in a terminal
[12:41] <harrybuntu> i just install my first ubuntu!! wuhu
[12:41] <Mabus06> mustard5, this change in performance happened when I updated BIOS. There is no evidence to suggest that it broke the GeForce.
[12:41] <HappyFool> housetier: isn't there a config.log in the higher level dir
[12:41] <thoreauputic> easy spelling...
[12:41] <mustard5> Mabus06, I would doubt it too.  Well if you're enthusiasm returns I would try nvidia forums :)
[12:41] <HappyFool> housetier: i.e., where you ran 'AppRun' from
[12:41] <Mabus06> lspci no longer recognizes my pci card either mustard5
[12:42] <absent> HappyFool hey
[12:42] <Mabus06> well I'm not given up entirely I"m just kind of trying to get advice for something else atm, mustard5
[12:42] <HappyFool> hi absent
[12:42] <housetier> HappyFool sadly there is not, but I'll try and see if mplayer's configure spits out more useful information regarding missing x
[12:42] <mustard5> Mabus06, what's your current problem?
[12:42] <absent> HappyFool its bird
[12:42] <Mabus06> mustard5, do you know how I could set up OpenGL for my onboard?
[12:42] <HappyFool> housetier: puzzling. maybe 'find -iname config.log' ?
[12:42] <dalek> i unzipped the archive from here http://www.isc.ro/linux/download.html - now how do I "igate to the wordbiz directory and type java -jar wordbiz.jar" that means nothing to me. Do i need some sort of command prompt to type that in?
[12:42] <HappyFool> absent: getting anywhere?
[12:42] <mustard5> Mabus06, not really
[12:43] <dalek> igate=navigate
[12:43] <harrybuntu> i would like to install XMMS but it doesn't work (doc = http://ubuntuguide.org/#xmms)
[12:43] <mustard5> Mabus06, I just totally reinstalled by main installation after busting it :)
[12:43] <harrybuntu> i don't see xmms on the menu
[12:43] <absent> HappyFool not really i restarted and it whent noware but then again i vever edited the files i downloaded
[12:43] <absent> what was that site again?
[12:43] <HappyFool> absent: the ubuntuforums site?
[12:43] <housetier> HappyFool maybe I messed up something... I'll try a few things, then I'll completely reinstall all the x-related packages
[12:43] <thoreauputic> harrybuntu: don't use ubuntuguide - and xmms is in main I think
[12:43] <absent> ya
[12:43] <thoreauputic> !info xmms
[12:43] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[12:43] <mustard5> Mabus06, I run two installs of linux on my system, one backup one so I can still function when I get too 'experimental' :)
[12:43] <moo> so im about 12 hours into ubuntu and i like it a lot, its so much more polished than any other distro ive ever used it actually feels like an os
[12:43] <thoreauputic> yup
[12:44] <HappyFool> absent: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5690.html
[12:44] <moo> big ups to the developers
[12:44] <absent> and how did i get the internet to work again
[12:44] <absent> ???
[12:44] <HappyFool> absent: 'sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf'
[12:44] <joe_b> harrybuntu: has xmms installed? can you run it from a terminal? it might be that the menu has not updated properly yet
[12:44] <absent> HappyFool nvm it DOES work
[12:44] <harrybuntu> thoreauputic: what should i do ?
[12:44] <dalek> how do I "navigate to the wordbiz directory and type java -jar wordbiz.jar"?  I am stumped.
[12:44] <Mabus06> lol mustard5
[12:44] <HappyFool> absent: it will probably work intermittently
[12:45] <HappyFool> dalek: start a terminal (Apps -> Accessories -> Terminal)
[12:45] <thoreauputic> harrybuntu: run it from a terminal - just type xmms - and set the output plugin to esound in options-preferences
[12:45] <absent> HappyFool hmm yeah your right. but it is promising
[12:45] <Mabus06> mustard5, the /display/linux directory of my mobo utils CD gives me a link to install drivers for my onboard video adapter
[12:45] <housetier> is there a paste service where I can upload a text file?
[12:45] <LeaChim> housetier, pastebin.com
[12:45] <HappyFool> dalek: you need to know where the 'wordbiz.jar' file is -- i.e., what folder
[12:45] <thoreauputic> harrybuntu: it should appear in the menu - sometimes you have to wait a bit
[12:45] <HappyFool> absent: well, if it plays up again you can check that ubuntuforums page out
[12:46] <harrybuntu> doesn't work, it seems that xmms is not installed
[12:46] <Mabus06> mustard5, I have the link, but I don't know what to do with it. help?
[12:46] <HappyFool> absent: if it ain't broke, don't fix it ;)
[12:46] <absent> HappyFool TY for all the help
[12:46] <thoreauputic> harrybuntu:  type  sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:46] <housetier> LeaChim ok and where do I upload the text file there? I don't see it
[12:46] <dalek> ok, now how do I change to the folder in the terminal window?
[12:46] <LeaChim> housetier, paste it into the big box ;)
[12:46] <HappyFool> dalek: do you know what folder it is? where did you save the .jar file to ? your desktop?
[12:47] <mustard5> Mabus06, paste the link..I'll take a look..you never know :)
[12:47] <Albaraha> I downloaded breezy install iso and mount it in a dir. What line do I have to put in Synatpic our /etc/apt/source.list repos.?
[12:47] <harrybuntu> thoreauputic: it says that there no package for xmms
[12:47] <housetier> LeaChim ok you misunderstood what I wanted
[12:47] <thoreauputic> harrybuntu: then your sources are broken
[12:47] <HappyFool> housetier: on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl there is a python script to do uploads
[12:47] <harrybuntu> thoreauputic ?
[12:47] <thoreauputic> harrybuntu: is this ubuntu 5.10 ?\
[12:47] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hi all.
[12:47] <delta> Is it possible to activate the double-click on the mouse roll?
[12:47] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Anyone wanna tell me what I have to install before I can run ./configure?
[12:48] <thoreauputic> !tell harryubu about repositories
[12:48] <harrybuntu> no it's 5.04
[12:48] <HappyFool> Crys_Ubu_PC: depends on the app
[12:48] <Mabus06> mustard5, http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/i810/
[12:48] <dalek> under the file browser window I see under place home,desktop,filesystem,cdrom, then there is a line and under the line is the folder where my jarfile is
[12:48] <moo> anyone know where i can find an enemy territory icon for the'start' menu
[12:48] <thoreauputic> harrybuntu: ah you need universe perhaps
[12:48] <tmuki> does anyone here has any ideas how I could get around that bug in breezy partman? The problem in short: I have tiger w/ case-sensitive HFS+ installed, and now I want to dual boot Ubuntu with it, but because of the new disktype that tiger w/ case-sensitive partition introduces, the installers partman can't see my partitions on disk - more in here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30749.html
[12:48] <thoreauputic> harrybuntu: read the msg ubotu sent you
[12:48] <harrybuntu> thoreauputic: maybe
[12:48] <HappyFool> dalek: what is that folder called?
[12:48] <harrybuntu> thoreauputic: sorry i didn't understand
[12:49] <mustard5> Mabus06, I'm worried already by all the references to xfree86 :)
[12:49] <dalek> i named folder 'sausages' :)
[12:49] <tmuki> I have tried that chroot & copy live-cd, but can't boot it in any way, is my best option currently to mount manually root in installer, then rename umount and try to go on?
[12:49] <HappyFool> dalek: ok, try 'cd sausages' in the terminal
[12:49] <DDP> glg
[12:50] <mustard5> Mabus06, do you know which thing on that page is relevant to your motherboard?
[12:50] <thoreauputic> !+repositories
[12:50] <ubotu> How to add repositories:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:50] <HappyFool> dalek: if you see 'bash: cd: sausages: No such file or directory' then it didn't work
[12:50] <dalek> no, it's working.
[12:50] <Mabus06> mustard5, no, but could I tell you something that would allow you to know which thing is relevant?
[12:50] <dalek> thanks
[12:50] <thoreauputic> harrybuntu: red theurls ubotu spat out above
[12:50] <HappyFool> dalek: the java command should work here (if java's installed)
[12:51] <mustard5> sure
[12:51] <moo> anyone know of any good icon repositories ?
[12:51] <harrybuntu> thoreauputic: i find a doc in french, thank's you
[12:52] <Crys_Ubu_PC> moo sourceforge.net But you'll have to search by hand.
[12:52] <thoreauputic> harrybuntu: pas de quoi, monsieur ;)
[12:52] <mustard5> Mabus06, go for it :)
[12:52] <Crys_Ubu_PC> I found out I need gcc. Will it matter which one I use? can I just install the newest one?
[12:52] <moo> thats cool i know what im lookin for
[12:52] <HappyFool> Crys_Ubu_PC: it depends. install 'build-essential' for starters
[12:52] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Huh?
[12:53] <Mabus06> mustard5, I don't know what it IS, I just mean if theres something you need to know about my mobo fo ryou to know which link is relevant, let me know
[12:53] <moo> i couldnt compile 2.6 with the gcc that came with ubuntu
[12:53] <thoreauputic> Crys_Ubu_PC: install the build-essential package
[12:53] <moo> i had to get 3.4 i think
[12:53] <HappyFool> Crys_Ubu_PC: you'll probably also need -dev packages. it would help if you told use what you were compiling
[12:53] <HappyFool> moo: yeah, that is a pita. especially since gcc-3.4 isn't on the cd
[12:53] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Monkey!
[12:53] <housetier> so I just copied configure.log to my public_html: http://housetier.kicks-ass.net/~housetier/downloads/configure.log mind, however, that this is from mplayer's configure
[12:53] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Just monkey.
[12:53] <moo> kinda silly
[12:53] <Crys_Ubu_PC> He suggests gcc 2.95 I think.
[12:54] <HappyFool> Crys_Ubu_PC: what is 'monkey' ? i see a monkey-bubble in the repos
[12:54] <dalek> ok, I got a bunch of gobbledygook then nothing. Does ubuntu live CD come with Java Virtual machine? Or do I need to install that?
[12:54] <Crys_Ubu_PC> No, you have to download it. It's a super small/fast http daemon.
[12:55] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Want the link?
[12:55] <HappyFool> Crys_Ubu_PC: not especially ;)
[12:55] <morgs^^> thoreauputic? what is unmount of an iso  ?
[12:55] <HappyFool> Crys_Ubu_PC: maybe build-essential will be enough
[12:55] <HappyFool> housetier: hmm
[12:55] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Thanks.
[12:55] <morgs^^> is it just unmount ?
[12:55] <HappyFool> housetier: i have an X.h
[12:56] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Yeah. Those packages look just fine, thanks.
[12:56] <thoreauputic> morgs^^: umm - you mean an ISO file you have mounted?  umount /mount/point
[12:56] <thoreauputic> morgs^^: no "n"
[12:56] <HappyFool> housetier: it's part of x11proto-core-dev
[12:56] <thoreauputic> morgs^^: don't ask why ;-)
[12:56] <mustard5> Mabus06, I'm reading stuff on that page but I am not understanding much at all
[12:56] <HappyFool> housetier: but i'm sure it should be installed via x-window-system-dev
[12:56] <mustard5> Mabus06, I'm as lost as you
[12:56] <dalek> ok, where do I find a super small/fast java virtual machine download... everything on java.com site seems to be 15Mb
[12:56] <HappyFool> housetier: note that x-window-system-core and x-window-system-dev are two different packages
[12:57] <Mabus06> well shoot, mue
[12:57] <Mabus06> mustard5, that is
[12:57] <Crys_Ubu_PC> I just wanna set up nvu to build my site, and monkey to host it, and it only needs to work on my LAN, so monkey is more than enough server power.
[12:57] <morgs^^> thoreauputic ahhh domo!!
[12:57] <housetier> HappyFool I willing to admit I messed it all up myself. I'll purge and reinstall all those packages
[12:57] <thoreauputic> dalek: java is a big beast
[12:57] <HappyFool> housetier: x11proto-core-dev *is* a dependency of x-windows-system-dev, via libx11-dev
[12:57] <mue> what?
[12:57] <moo> anyone know the name of the app that displays system stats with white text on your desktop
[12:57] <moo> theres prolly more than 1
[12:58] <mustard5> Mabus06, it looks like drivers written in C
[12:58] <morgs^^> not enlightenment ?
[12:58] <mustard5> Mabus06, thats about all I can tell :)
[12:58] <dalek> what's thsi mean? "Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[12:58] <dalek> "
[12:58] <Crys_Ubu_PC> moo torsmo works.
[12:59] <Crys_Ubu_PC> I think.
[12:59] <Crys_Ubu_PC> And the text color along with the text is configurable.
[12:59] <bluefrog-10> the awt class are not installed on your computer
[12:59] <thoreauputic> dalek: loks like it's choking on the Free java that's installed by default
[12:59] <Crys_Ubu_PC> moo, torsmo is in the repos as well.
[12:59] <moo> k ill try it
[01:00] <thoreauputic> gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit <<<
[01:00] <Mabus06> mustard5, that's what I coul tell, too. Didn't know what to do with 'em
[01:00] <moo> wonder if i can map my video card temp to it
[01:01] <mustard5> Mabus06, I think it will some time before either you or I will understand it too :D
[01:01] <Mabus06> anybody know what to do with drivers written in C?
[01:01] <moo> ok 2 questions how do i edit torsmo settings and how do i launch it upon login?
[01:01] <moo> compile them :p
[01:01] <Mabus06> okay, smarty pants
[01:01] <Mabus06> how
[01:02] <moo> tryy gcc -o driver driver.c
[01:02] <Mabus06> here moo, look at this link
[01:02] <moo> or make... :p
[01:02] <Mabus06> http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/i810/
[01:02] <Crys_Ubu_PC> moo, How do you know that, and you don't know torsmo?
[01:02] <moo> im OG :p i havent used linux in a long time
[01:02] <Mabus06> My Mobo util CD gives me link to there
[01:02] <Crys_Ubu_PC> moo, Also torsmo config file is /home/user/.torsmorc I think.
[01:02] <Mabus06> to install drivers for my onboard display
[01:03] <moo> k
[01:03] <mustard5> Mabus06, I would be reading how to compile stuff ;)
[01:03] <binky> hello all
[01:03] <Mabus06> but I dont know what to do with that stuff
[01:03] <moo> dude mabus just type make
[01:03] <moo> in the directory
[01:03] <moo> see the Makefile
[01:03] <mustard5> Mabus06, I wonder how you install them when they are compiled :)
[01:03] <moo> you need gmake and gcc installed
[01:03] <Mabus06> it's not as simple as you're making it sounding
[01:03] <Mabus06> I am a *complete* noob at this
[01:03] <moo> make install probably
[01:03] <moo> how complete? do you know how to get to the console?
[01:04] <Mabus06> yes
[01:04] <Crys_Ubu_PC> And as for the starting up at login, I know there's a menu item for that.
[01:04] <moo> ok, try typing 'make' in the driver source directory
[01:04] <moo> since there is a Makefile you should be able to
[01:04] <Mabus06> driver source directory?
[01:04] <Crys_Ubu_PC> moo, I think it is System>Preferences>Sessions Somewhere in there.
[01:04] <Mabus06> nonono, I don't have any drivers downloaded
[01:04] <mustard5> Mabus06, you have to work out which driver to compile first :)
[01:04] <moo> yup, thx crys
[01:04] <Mabus06> exactly mustard5 and I have no clue which one to use
[01:04] <Mabus06> moo, http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/i810/
[01:05] <moo> mabus you want all those files
[01:05] <Mabus06> is what my mobo CD told me to go to
[01:05] <moo> you want that complete directory
[01:05] <binky> noob question: any kind sole know how do you change the ubuntu logo back to the foot in breezy?
[01:05] <Mabus06> I have no idea!
[01:05] <Crys_Ubu_PC> moo, I like torsmo, but I forgot about it almost completely. Thanks.
[01:05] <Mabus06> My mobo cd gave me a link to that page
[01:05] <Crys_Ubu_PC> I'm gonna install it now too.
[01:05] <Mabus06> No indication what to do with it
[01:05] <Mabus06> just the link
[01:05] <moo> lol Mabus06
[01:05] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Okay, well monkey works.
[01:06] <Crys_Ubu_PC> I'll see you all later.
[01:06] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Thanks for the helps.
[01:06] <moo> just type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[01:06] <moo> ubuntu has the driver u need
[01:06] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Mabus06, Good luck.
[01:06] <Mabus06> thank you very much, I will try that moo
[01:06] <moo> i figured it would have the i810 driver :p its a popular card
[01:06] <mustard5> your a good man moo ;)
[01:06] <moo> popular sucky card
[01:07] <Mabus06> moo: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[01:07] <Mabus06> moo I have a geforce FX 5500 too
[01:07] <Mabus06> but don't get me started on it...
[01:07] <Mabus06> let's just say it's not working
[01:08] <moo> its easy
[01:08] <Mabus06> err
[01:08] <procrastinator> since upgrading to Breezy, vlc hasn't used wx and left me with the standard, ugly x-interface. Why?
[01:08] <Mabus06> didnt mean to copy paste that to you moo
[01:08] <moo> you need a few diff things, just do apt-cache search nvidia and it will show you the different things you can get
[01:08] <Mabus06> moo: xserver-xorg-driver-i810 is already the newest version.
[01:08] <Mabus06> moo, it is not easy
[01:08] <moo> hm
[01:08] <Mabus06> many experts have tried to help me wiht my geforce
[01:08] <Mabus06> it is WAY more complex than you think
[01:08] <KurtKraut> How do I install a printer on Ubuntu ?
[01:08] <Mabus06> it won't even work at the BIOS of this machine
[01:08] <moo> oh
[01:09] <moo> thats deep man
[01:09] <mustard5> Mabus06, your goal is to get OpenGL support for your onboard display is it?
[01:09] <moo> :p
[01:09] <Mabus06> ugh as I said, don't get me started
[01:09] <Mabus06> yes, mustard5
[01:09] <Mabus06> so I can at least play some okay games until I can get some pro help with my geforce
[01:09] <mustard5> Mabus06, if I see something around I make sure I tell you
[01:09] <Mabus06> okay, thanks mue
[01:10] <bluefrog-10> KurtKraut, conect your printer then system administration printing adn if it's detected install your printer
[01:10] <Mabus06> mustard5, of course I meant
[01:10] <bungle> how do I instal a *.deb package .. not the same as tar.gz I presume
[01:10] <binky> re: printer:  system -> Admin -> printing
[01:10] <Belutz> bungle, sudo dpkg -i
[01:10] <Belutz> bungle, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:11] <moo> btw conky is better than torsmo and also in the repos
[01:12] <ChewT> Hi
[01:12] <binky> Any kind sole know how do you change the ubuntu logo back to the foot in breezy? how is it system linked?
[01:12] <mustard5> Mabus06, I've taken a shine to gnometris and samegnome ;)
[01:12] <gean> hi all !
[01:12] <ChewT> Can anyone help me with some concerns about installing Ubuntu?
[01:12] <nihil_> salve
[01:13] <binky> sure
[01:13] <KurtKraut> bluefrog-10, thanks
[01:13] <mustard5> Mabus06, I did install Wolfenstein, but I doubt its working now I have done a clean install
[01:13] <bungle> lol this is gonna sound stupid but Where did the *.deb file go after I installed it
[01:13] <ChewT> Okay
[01:13] <ChewT> I want to have Linux
[01:13] <mustard5> bungle probably in home
[01:13] <bluefrog-10> bungle, /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:13] <ChewT> But my family will go mad if I wreck Windows
[01:13] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hey moo you still here?
[01:13] <Mabus06> mustard5, I can't play any games at all that require opengl so that limits out pretty much everything
[01:13] <ChewT> So I'mma dual boot
[01:13] <sobersabre> hill0703_, where can I read about running doesmu ?
[01:13] <sobersabre> i mean dosemu
[01:14] <hyphenated> what decides whether a CD drive will appear as /dev/hdc and whether it'll be /dev/scd0 ?
[01:14] <ChewT> But will the ubuntu install come with a boot manager?
[01:14] <sobersabre> shit! it completes to nicks!!!
[01:14] <mustard5> Mabus06, yeah...linux is a pain in the butt for games full stop :)
[01:14] <binky> the best way is to use a clean hard disk if your new to it
[01:14] <sobersabre> hill0703_, where can I read about dosemu ?
[01:14] <binky> connect windows after the install
[01:14] <sobersabre> hell!!!!
[01:14] <mustard5> Mabus06, better to run a dual boot system and boot up windows to play games I reckon
[01:14] <sobersabre> how do I disable xchat to complete the 1st nick ?!?!
[01:15] <Mabus06> I'm starting to wonder what's so good about linux... with all my problems and no real benefits (don't lynch me)
[01:15] <sobersabre> hi, I am testing disabled nick completion..
[01:15] <mustard5> Mabus06, whatever works for your needs is best :)
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mabus06: it may not be yoru thing :)
[01:15] <sobersabre> YESS! :)
[01:15] <Mabus06> but i do want to use it to make a server and learn languages like php
[01:15] <Subliminal> what is the firefox streaming video plugin that ships with breezy?
[01:16] <binky> did that help?
[01:16] <housetier> HappyFool fyi I solved it by purging x-windows-whatever-dev and all the packages it depends on, then I purged all the packages that depended on it. then I reinstalled that x-window-whatever-dev and an now happily ./configure my stuff.
[01:16] <ProN00b> Mabus06, you can do that easyer on windows if you are a windows dude...
[01:16] <mustard5> Mabus06, I would concentrate on that then ...your driving yourself nuts with this nvidia problem :)
[01:16] <ProN00b> Mabus06, look up xammp
[01:16] <dalek> I'm thirsty. how do I get more fluids in linux?
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> with apt
[01:17] <Mabus06> well I can't totally give up on linux... it has solved one problem I had on windows
[01:17] <gean> any1 experienced the same problems i have while trying to put k3b work with ubuntu (sorry, gnomebaker burns all iso's with error message). While trying to run k3b i get the error mess' :  [ k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ]  i've already linked symbolically libqt-mt.so.3.3.4 to the needeed libqt-mt.so.3 , but then get segmentation falt... any1 any help, please ?!
[01:17] <Mabus06> this computer's ethernet didn't seem to work with windows. works fine with ubuntu
[01:17] <dalek> what is apt? will it quench thirst?
[01:17] <Mabus06> and also, I don't have windows and burned windows had some things not working properly. ;-)
[01:17] <udreka> Hi, the ubuntu archive does not seem to have the kernel headers for my kernel (2.6.12-9). Where can I look for them?
[01:17] <wickedpuppy> !apt
[01:17] <ubotu> it has been said that apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[01:18] <ChewT> If I ever move completely to Linux in the future can I delete windows from Linux and make Linux full my hd?
[01:18] <binky> is libqt-mt installed?
[01:18] <delta> Is it possible to activate the double-click on the mouse roll?
[01:18] <El_Che> ChewT: yes
[01:18] <ChewT> Thanks
[01:18] <herrpoonstrikes> hi, my friend has one of the new 64-bit intel chips
[01:18] <herrpoonstrikes> and iisnt sure
[01:18] <gean> yes, libqt-mt3 installed
[01:18] <herrpoonstrikes> which live cd to download
[01:18] <binky> hmm let me look...
[01:18] <wickedpuppy> herrpoonstrikes, download x86_64 ... if not just get x86
[01:18] <gean> so the file libqt-mt.so.3.3.4 is already in my /usr/lib
[01:19] <herrpoonstrikes> k
[01:19] <herrpoonstrikes> is there an x86_64?
[01:19] <wickedpuppy> herrpoonstrikes, i don't think you will see that much difference in live cd ..
[01:19] <herrpoonstrikes> im looking now and cant see one
[01:19] <herrpoonstrikes> ok as long as it works!
[01:19] <herrpoonstrikes> trying to convery someone
[01:19] <herrpoonstrikes> convert*
[01:19] <wickedpuppy> herrpoonstrikes, live cd ? no idea but x86 yes
[01:20] <herrpoonstrikes> thanks
[01:20] <mustard5> Mabus06, hehehe...
[01:20] <wickedpuppy> herrpoonstrikes, the best way to convert is to show ya system to him/her
[01:20] <dalek> am I sentient?
[01:20] <herrpoonstrikes> suppose
[01:20] <herrpoonstrikes> i just run a ubuntu on a p3
[01:21] <herrpoonstrikes> with 256 ram
[01:21] <herrpoonstrikes> but even that (wuth gnome) is damn quick
[01:21] <wickedpuppy> herrpoonstrikes, p3 p4 who cares ... just show ... thats better than explaining
[01:21] <milksteak> strange
[01:21] <dalek> I run ubuntu therefore I am?...
[01:21] <binky> have you tryed deleting your .kde directory in home?
[01:21] <herrpoonstrikes> i dont think ud get that with xp
[01:21] <milksteak> firefox seems to crash every time I try to play a video on google video
[01:22] <mustard5> Mabus06, now you know a bit more what you are doing I reckon you will be able to slowly change your hardware over to stuff that works well with linux, as you upgrade
[01:22] <mustard5> Mabus06, there are list of supported hardware around somewhere...
[01:22] <binky> bit drastic though
[01:22] <moo> anyone know why the volume speaker in the system tray is missing the alsa mixer option for my soundcard? it has the oss mixer option...
[01:23] <gean> also get the same bug, firefox crashes when some www-pages start my totem... and totem never opens cleanly
[01:23] <dalek> this firefox which comes with thelive CD is f'ed up. twice I've tried to download a 16Mb file and twice it just hangs when the download completes.
[01:23] <udreka> In which deb-repository can I find kernel headers for 2.6.12-9? They don't seem to be in the default one :-(
[01:23] <wickedpuppy> udreka, do you have universe and multiverse enabled ?
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> udreka: they are in Breezy.
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> IIRC
[01:23] <Mabus06> mustard5, my mobo and video card are about the same value
[01:23] <Mabus06> what do you suggest I change?
[01:23] <jdrugo> hi, i've installed kubuntu yesterday (but am using linux for 5 years now) and have a problem with pmount: even thought i've got different mount points in /etc/fstab, pmount always tries to mount my usb drives at /media/[devicename] . is there any simple way to change that?
[01:24] <mustard5> Mabus06, when you think about upgrading read over the supported hardware lists for whatever distro of linux you are using ie ubuntu at this time...
[01:25] <mustard5> Mabus06, I wouldnt have any reccomendations...as I am too poor to upgrade...I never bother looking
[01:26] <udreka> wickedpuppy: only universe
[01:26] <wickedpuppy> udreka, you are using breezy i suppose ? enable all repos and then search again
[01:27] <binky> I have got libqt 3.3-mt.so 3,3.3,and 3.4 installed -- seems to be working
[01:27] <nubuntu> I run Ubuntu Breezy, and now suddenly the lower GNOME Panel dont show the windows I have open. It only shows The workspace icons and trashbin on the right. Any way to fix this?
[01:27] <dalek> i can't dowload sh*t with this live CD firefox browser. everything just gets to 100% downloaded then hangs.. and no file on the hardrive.
[01:27] <jdrugo> is my question already to specialised? any hints where i could find help?
[01:29] <mustard5> jdrugo, I don't know the answer, but I wonder why its important :)
[01:29] <mustard5> jdrugo, does it really matter much?
[01:29] <binky> right click the panel and add "window list"
[01:29] <bakpao> how can i use WPA-PSK on ubuntu maschine ?
[01:29] <El_Che> nubuntu: right click - add to panel
[01:30] <El_Che> task list
[01:30] <nubuntu> binky, El_Che ok.... thanks. No idea how they disappeared :)
[01:30] <jdrugo> mustard5: well, because if there's an entry in fstab, then pmount doesn't create a directory but is stupid enough to assume that there is at /media/[devname] , points the gui program (kioslave) to that and causes an error
[01:30] <binky> no problem :)
[01:31] <mustard5> jdrugo, couldn't you point the usb drive to /media in fstab?
[01:31] <jdrugo> mustard5: i could change the mount points to reflect the device names (i have custom ones in udev anyway), but that's not a satisfactory solution
[01:31] <mustard5> jdrugo, k
[01:32] <jdrugo> mustard5, but if i don't find a way around, i'll just do that
[01:32] <wdh> jdrugo, why don'tyou just let ubuntu automount it and use a softlink to the directory you want it to be?
[01:32] <jdrugo> wdh, all those dirty hacks ;-)
[01:32] <jdrugo> wdh, could do though
[01:33] <mustard5> linux is all hacks ;)
[01:33] <wdh> jdrugo, well.. its the easiest workaround i can think off..
[01:33] <mustard5> wdh and jdrugo would the softlink survive a reboot?
[01:33] <mustard5> or reset each time?
[01:34] <jdrugo> mustard5, softlinks should survive, don't have to point to something to be there
[01:34] <mustard5> jdrugo, k
[01:34] <moo> hey ut2k4 runs on linux doesnt it
[01:34] <mustard5> thanks :)
[01:34] <jdrugo> wdh, i think that i'll just change the devicename in udev
[01:35] <binky> sorry gean, if your still there everthing is linked to libqt-mt.so
[01:35] <wdh> ok, good luck with that :)
[01:35] <wdh> bakpao, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto?highlight=%28WPA%29 << maybe this'll help you?
[01:35] <milksteak> meh
[01:35] <milksteak> this is annoying
[01:35] <milksteak> still unable to get flash to work in breezy
[01:36] <mustard5> w00t! latest skype installed without that annoying libqt3c102-mt ...
[01:36] <wdh> milksteak, searched synaptic for flash?
[01:37] <wdh> mustard5, skype is evil :P
[01:37] <ompaul> milksteak, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree flashplayer-mozilla  << that should work
[01:37] <milksteak> wdh, yes.
[01:37] <milksteak> hah
[01:37] <milksteak> done that...
[01:37] <ompaul> mustard5, ehh had your removed the libqt3?
[01:37] <mustard5> wdh, I find it kinda sexy with my girlfriend on the other end :)
[01:37] <milksteak> keep getting segfaults whenever I try to load something flash in firefox though
[01:37] <wdh> milksteak, flashplayer-mozilla - Macromedia Flash Player
[01:37] <wdh> flashplugin-nonfree - Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer
[01:37] <wdh> these wont work?
[01:37] <milksteak> meh
[01:37] <mustard5> ompaul, got it from seveas repo ;)
[01:37] <dalek> what sort of animal is an ubuntu anyhow?
[01:38] <milksteak> I'll try installing both at the same time
[01:38] <ompaul> ahh he has that in there
[01:38] <dalek> is it some sort of goat or something?
[01:38] <wdh> dalek, none.. check ubuntulinux.org :)
[01:38] <moo> its some hippie crap
[01:38] <CaiN_SA> comming to you live from montreal
[01:38] <CaiN_SA> its cold
[01:38] <ompaul> moo, ehh no
[01:38] <moo> means togetherness or something
[01:38] <CaiN_SA> and its chinatown
[01:38] <ompaul> moo, ehh no
[01:38] <mustard5> ompaul, I was struggling along with the one from skype repos...and that older libqt3c102-mt was clashing with too many other packages
[01:38] <cliebow> Cain_SA: caught up with Jim Mcquillian yet?
[01:39] <ChewT> In the ubuntu LiveCD is that all the features you get?
[01:39] <CaiN_SA> nag
[01:39] <CaiN_SA> nah
[01:39] <CaiN_SA> got here
[01:39] <CaiN_SA> and went to sleep
[01:39] <_jason> ompaul:  do you know what the nonfree flash does that flashplayer-mozilla doesn't?
[01:39] <ompaul> moo, it is we are who we are because of who we all are, that is just a social commentary
[01:39] <CaiN_SA> after 24 hours of traveling
[01:39] <cliebow> ill be up next week
[01:39] <CaiN_SA> everything is so expensive
[01:39] <CaiN_SA> 31$ for taxi from airport to hotel
[01:40] <CaiN_SA> :/
[01:40] <moo> right, hippie crap
[01:40] <moo> :p
[01:40] <ompaul> _jason, both of them are needed the one is the player the other is a plugin
[01:40] <dalek> hm.. I think I liked it better when ubuntu was a goat
[01:40] <cliebow> smile when you say that
[01:40] <Albaraha> I downloaded breezy install iso and mount it in a dir. What line do I have to put in /etc/apt/source.list repos.?
[01:40] <ompaul> dalek, very funny
[01:40] <_jason> ompaul:  oh I ask b/c I only have flashplayer-mozilla without the other package yet I have flash
[01:41] <moo> i never installed anything for flash, i just clicked install in firefox(no apt i mean)
[01:41] <ChewT> In the ubuntu LiveCD is that all the features you get?
[01:41] <ompaul> _jason, apt-cache policy flashplayer-nonfree < have a look at that
[01:42] <binky> chewt: no , is more like a knifty demo
[01:42] <ompaul> moo, how very zen
[01:42] <dalek> why do they call it a "live CD"? why not a "dead CD" or "death from above CD" or "sparkly CD"
[01:42] <jono> does anyone know where  libqt3c102-mt is - the package is not available
[01:42] <moo> :p
[01:42] <ompaul> dalek, your conversation would be welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:43] <mustard5> what you installing jono?
[01:43] <_jason> ompaul:  I assume you mean "flashplugin-nonfree" which returns: "Installed: (none)"
[01:43] <jono> mustard5, mythgame, but it needs that package
[01:43] <mustard5> ah ok
[01:43] <ompaul> _jason, that is interesting, my take was it was needed
[01:43] <milksteak> gah
[01:44] <milksteak> firefox still seg faulting :(
[01:44] <ompaul> ahh well its all non free rubbish outside of the control of the computer user
[01:44] <jono> the problem is that there is no package information about it and mythgame is not on launchpad
[01:44] <_jason> ompaul:  yeah :/
[01:44] <mustard5> jono, mine got installed when I installed skype from skype repo...I don't remember how it got on my system..whether I downloaded it seperately or it came from skype repo
[01:45] <mannyman> I wiped my mBR so I don't have Grub and can't boot, what to do?
[01:45] <mustard5> jono, I would mention that it clashes with too many packages.... mythtv wanted to uninstall it
[01:45] <ompaul> jono, install   libqt3c102-m
[01:45] <starscalling> heh
[01:45] <starscalling> sup
[01:45] <ompaul> jono, install   libqt3c102-mt sorry
[01:45] <starscalling> ok couple of new questions:
[01:46] <starscalling> dante-client // dante server is just forwarding requests through proxify not the data right?
[01:46] <mannyman> How to reinstall Grub anyone?
[01:47] <mustard5> ubotu: tell mannyman about grub
[01:47] <Mez> lo all
[01:47] <Revellion> mannyman: use the Ubuntu install CD ?
[01:47] <mustard5> ompaul, :)
[01:47] <Revellion> or the live one
[01:47] <starscalling> ubuntu supports soundblaster audigy easy right?
[01:47] <starscalling> :P
[01:47] <Revellion> starscalling: most distros does...
[01:47] <mannyman> yeah, "expert" but no use
[01:47] <starscalling> yeah just checking,,, wasnt great for buddy on another distro,,
[01:48] <Revellion> :)
[01:48] <ompaul> starscalling, what you need to do is start alsamixer and unmute whatever is on there
[01:48] <jono> ompaul, that package is not available?
[01:48] <Revellion> mannyman: try using the LiveCD enviroment if possible?
[01:48] <Revellion> and use it to repair the MBR?
[01:48] <kandoora_> so i got my wireless modem and i put in the ip address and subnet mask and default gateway what else do i need, what is essid and wep and how do i find them
[01:48] <Revellion> by running grub-install on the drive from it
[01:48] <Revellion> and your problem should be gone
[01:48] <mannyman> thanks
[01:48] <ompaul> jono, sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt << is in main if your using breezy
[01:49] <trausti> HEllo...Can somebody help me configure my built-in broadcom wireless adapter so that I can use it in Ubuntu? Ubuntu doesnt seem to support it...but there should be a way through ndisrapper (sic)...Or so I have been told..
[01:49] <HappyFool> !ndiswrapper
[01:49] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is probably a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:49] <delta> Is there a way to activate the double-click on the middle mouse wheel-button?
[01:49] <Revellion> trausti: Dell Latitude lappy? :)
[01:49] <kandoora_> anyone
[01:49] <HappyFool> wirless drivers, eh? do they not have a sniup
[01:49] <HappyFool> spinup
[01:49] <jono> ompaul, but I still cant install mythgame as it needs the other package?
[01:49] <Revellion> delta: why would you want that behaviour?
[01:50] <delta> Revellion, because I'd prefer that to a copy/paste.
[01:50] <ompaul> kandoora_, 567 bodies (well a bot or two but there ya go)
[01:50] <jono> ompaul, that package is already installed
[01:50] <Revellion> :|
[01:50] <Revellion> delta: then you're different from me
[01:50] <kandoora_> ompaul, say what
[01:50] <Revellion> i like the copy and pasting :|
[01:50] <KurtKraut> How may I listen to Windows Media Services streams ? Like there mms:// URLs... wich program in Ubuntu should I use for that ?
[01:50] <Revellion> trausti: still around?
[01:50] <mustard5> KurtKraut, totem
[01:50] <ompaul> kandoora_, you said anyone, I say ~567
[01:50] <delta> Revellion, yes, we're different :)
[01:51] <Revellion> trausti: and most laptops with the Broadcaom's only works with the NDISWrapper sadly :(
[01:51] <Revellion> *Broadcom
[01:51] <kandoora_> so i got my wireless modem and i put in the ip address and subnet mask and default gateway what else do i need, what is essid and wep and how do i find them
[01:51] <_jason> KurtKraut:  if totem doesn't work, try mplayer
[01:51] <mustard5> KurtKraut, oh..hang on ..I'm not sure about that :)
[01:51] <Revellion> blame the manufacturer for not releasing their specs :|
[01:51] <ompaul> jono, what other package?
[01:51] <kandoora_> how do i get my wep key, and is it important
[01:51] <mustard5> kandoora_, not if you don't use encryption
[01:51] <jono> ompaul, libqt3c102-mt
[01:52] <ompaul> jono, that is in the package I told you to install
[01:52] <kandoora_> mustard5, and how do i get the key, where do i need to look for it
[01:52] <jono> ompaul, I already have libqt3-mt installed, but I still cant install mythgame
[01:52] <KurtKraut> Let me try
[01:52] <Revellion> kandoora_: at your access point?
[01:52] <jono> as it needs libqt3c102-mt
[01:52] <Revellion> kandoora_: and to activate it you just need to use iwconfig
[01:52] <mustard5> kandoora_, I don't know...but if you don't use encryption its not needed
[01:52] <kandoora_> rev
[01:52] <Revellion> or whatever tool you use to configure your WiFi
[01:53] <ompaul> jono, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for a minute
[01:53] <gean> all other linux systems i experienced the last 5 y came with a history of length about 500, remembering all commands in all terminals. Under ubuntu each xterm starts by default with empty history. How should i change my .bashrc , that i always have the last 500 (5000 would be also not bad for me) commands in my history ?!
[01:53] <kandoora_> Revellion, will that help me get connected
[01:53] <ompaul> this will take a moment or two to convince you that it is there
[01:53] <Revellion> kandoora_: depends
[01:53] <Revellion> kandoora_: do you have WEP Encryption enabled at the AP ?
[01:53] <Revellion> or not?
[01:53] <delta> Revellion, does it answer my question? :)
[01:53] <kandoora_> Revellion, i gotta check
[01:53] <kandoora_> Revellion, what is essid
[01:54] <Revellion> kandoora_: it's the ESSID that you'll need to have :)
[01:54] <Revellion> if the AP has essid like "Wireless"
[01:54] <Revellion> you
[01:54] <Revellion> you need that on the card settings aswell
[01:54] <HappyFool> gean: odd, i have history in bash
[01:54] <Revellion> iwconfig wlan0 essid Wireless in that case
[01:54] <HappyFool> gean: do you have a ~/.bash_history file ?
[01:54] <Revellion> or in the Gnome UI to it you just select a ESSID from a dropdown list
[01:54] <prasys> umm , odd cvs to pserver:anonymous@cvs.heaven.sky:/universe.
[01:54] <prasys> does not work
[01:55] <Revellion> kandoora_: if not you can just check with iwlist wlan0 scan or iwlist scan
[01:55] <Revellion> delta: well i could imagine there's a way
[01:55] <Revellion> delta: not sure atm though
[01:55] <prasys> ESSID , make sure you put it in broadcast mode
[01:55] <gean> HappyFool : well, that's strange, i have it , but more gives me : /home/dan/.bash_history: Permission denied
[01:56] <delta> Revellion, it's weird that I can't find a link easily on google. I'm not english native though ;)
[01:56] <prasys> some vendors do allow you to turn it off , but i suggest you to turn it on
[01:56] <HappyFool> gean: ah-ha
[01:56] <TG__> could anyone tell me in what package i can find gnome.h?
[01:56] <HappyFool> gean: probably got owned by root at some point
[01:56] <HappyFool> gean: try 'sudo rm ~/.bash_history' then restart the term
[01:56] <lara>  hello everybody. I need help with modem conection
[01:56] <lara> .  the sistem reports did't find the modem
[01:56] <lara>  by the autodetection
[01:56] <lara> . so, i choose one (/dev/ttyS1)
[01:56] <lara>  but, i dont know what to do now.  where is the dialer ?
[01:56] <gean> HappyFool : i'll change the rwx..
[01:56] <kandoora_> Revellion, i'm sorry but what is iwlist scan,  do i use it in the terminal
[01:57] <HappyFool> gean: well, in that case try a chown
[01:57] <prasys> lara , is it a Winmodem
[01:57] <lara> yes
[01:57] <Revellion> delta: you use Firefox?
[01:57] <prasys> lara , well have you set it up , you have done a modprobe right
[01:57] <delta> Revellion, yes.
[01:57] <HappyFool> lara: do you know the model?
[01:57] <lara> i'll see.
[01:57] <Revellion> delta: then the loose of the middle-mouse button is quite sad
[01:58] <Revellion> Middle mouse on a link opens it nicely in a tab
[01:58] <Revellion> without it you would have to right click and hit Open in new tab :|
[01:58] <HappyFool> !tell lara about winmodem
[01:58] <Stricklin> Can I play .mov files?
[01:58] <KurtKraut> _jason, mustard5 Totem didn't work for mms://69.93.9.59/redeblitz
[01:58] <lara> how do i see the model trought the terminal ?
[01:58] <mustard5> KurtKraut, try mplayer
[01:58] <delta> Revellion, I didn't know :) I use right-click :)
[01:58] <prasys> umm
[01:58] <HappyFool> lara: not easily
[01:59] <KurtKraut> _jason, I've tried sudo aptitude install mplayer and no packages were found. How can I get mplayer ?
[01:59] <Revellion> delta: ever tried it? :)
[01:59] <prasys> finally upgrade is done
[01:59] <Revellion> delta: it's quite useful
[01:59] <prasys> lara , modprobe or you can windows to know which port
[01:59] <HappyFool> lara: using scanModem from the site ubotu pointed you to is the easiest way
[01:59] <Revellion> but where would you need double-click?
[01:59] <Revellion> most UI's only need single click
[01:59] <dewd_> guys, how can I find where a shell command is located without using the "which" command? is there an alternative?
[01:59] <mustard5> KurtKraut, sounds like you need to enable extra repositories
[01:59] <HappyFool> dewd_: 'locate' might help
[01:59] <_jason> KurtKraut:  search for mplayer, there are several packages depending on your system
[01:59] <Revellion> and double tap on left is far more comfortable than stretching the finger to the right to hit middle :|
[01:59] <gean> HappyFool : done chown, started new xterm, it comes with a 195 items history ! thanks a lot!
[01:59] <delta> Revellion, I think so :)
[01:59] <prasys> just type wvdialconf
[01:59] <HappyFool> gean: np
[01:59] <mustard5> KurtKraut, or search in synaptic
[01:59] <_jason> ubotu:  tell KurtKraut about mplayer
[02:00] <lara> ok... i will check it. but, a doubt i have yet: how do dialer ? i didn't find it
[02:00] <HappyFool> lara: you likely need to download extra files to make your modem work
[02:00] <lara> ah, ok
[02:00] <HappyFool> lara: ubuntu does not come with support for many (or any?) winmodems
[02:01] <dewd_> HappyFool, how can I locate only the executables?
[02:01] <HappyFool> lara: a starting point is 'scanModem', which detects the modem type
[02:01] <mustard5> lara, can you afford to get a new external modem?
[02:01] <HappyFool> dewd_: put a 'bin' in the search string
[02:01] <Revellion> delta: using Nautilus?
[02:01] <HappyFool> dewd_: like 'locate bin/ls'
[02:01] <mustard5> lara, you will save yourself a lot of hassels if you do
[02:01] <Revellion> delta: seems Nautilus already uses Middle-click as a sort of Double-click by default in ubuntu :|
[02:02] <delta> Revellion, ?
[02:02] <_jason> KurtKraut:  just so you know, I just tried that link and mplayer does not play it
[02:02] <lara> if this doesnt be reconized, you recomend i buy another one ?
[02:02] <mustard5> lara, I have been down the path of trying to get a winmodem working and its not fun at all
[02:02] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hey all. How can I see what ports I'm using so I can configure monkey to use an open one?
[02:02] <KurtKraut> _jason, I will try
[02:02] <prasys> lara, let me get this clear
[02:02] <HappyFool> lara: well, it would be easiest is probably an external modem, but they tend to be pricey
[02:02] <HappyFool> err
[02:02] <prasys> you're using a dial-up modem
[02:02] <prasys> you can still use the command ppp tool to make a connection
[02:02] <raghu> Crys_Ubu_PC: netstat or nmap
[02:03] <HappyFool> lara: easiest is an external modem, but they are pricey
[02:03] <Crys_Ubu_PC> thank you raghu.
[02:03] <raghu> Crys_Ubu_PC: np
[02:03] <prasys> use windows to detect which COM port its connected , notice that not all modems do work
[02:03] <Revellion> delta: http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:r0q4AuwQNpcJ:www.technetra.com/writings/recent/review_ubuntu504_html+%22Middle-mouse%22+%22double-click%22+%22linux%22&hl=sv
[02:03] <HappyFool> lara: i am using my intel 536ep winmodem, and it works fine -- it was an effort to setup
[02:03] <delta> Revellion, doesn't seem to wokr here. For example, supposing I want to open a dvi file, will it open it middle-clicking on the (file) icon on the desktop?
[02:03] <HappyFool> prasys: winmodems require special, often closed-source drivers
[02:03] <Revellion> delta: depends entirely on your settings
[02:03] <Revellion> i usually diss double-clicking for that
[02:03] <Revellion> and make Nautilus do that on single
[02:03] <prasys> HappyFool , you're luck
[02:04] <Crys_Ubu_PC> raghu, You wouldn't happen to know if there is a certain range within I should set the server to use for a web server do you?
[02:04] <prasys> *lucky
[02:04] <Revellion> but i think ubuntu's nautilus reacts on middle clicking the icons
[02:04] <prasys> HappyFool , i had an hard time with an external USB modem !
[02:04] <ChewT> Why do we defragment windows before installing ubuntu?
[02:04] <mustard5> prasys, we should recommend a serial external modem then to lara
[02:04] <ompaul> ChewT, to make contigious space for Ubuntu and more of it
[02:04] <raghu> Crys_Ubu_PC: sorry not clear
[02:04] <ChewT> I defraged last week
[02:04] <delta> Revellion, it doens't work here. Where should I look for this setting?
[02:05] <Crys_Ubu_PC> raghu, Monkey is a web serving daemon, and I need to set it to use a good port. You wouldn't know how to do that would you? an http server, by the way.
[02:06] <ompaul> ChewT, windows writes all over the disk
[02:06] <lara> ok... i'll try to buy a external modem... but first i'll try to get this one
[02:06] <mustard5> lara, good luck
[02:06] <lara> thankfull :)
[02:06] <mustard5> lara, come again if you have problems
[02:06] <Revellion> delta: Settings -> File manager?
[02:06] <lara> sure.
[02:06] <ompaul> lara, linmode.com
[02:06] <ompaul> lara, linmodems.com even
[02:06] <Linux_Galore> to configure xorg from the command line is it sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[02:06] <delta> Revellion, oh, it does the trick, thanks it looks good enough for me now. Thanks :)
[02:07] <mustard5> Linux_Galore, no
[02:07] <Linux_Galore> mustard5: whats the variation Im used to debian
[02:07] <HappyFool> ompaul: i reckon http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/ is a bit better (though confusing)
[02:07] <mustard5> Linux_Galore, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:07] <Linux_Galore> mustard5: ?? sudo xorgconfigure
[02:08] <Revellion> delta: good :)
[02:08] <Linux_Galore> aaah yeah you guys swapped to xorg
[02:08] <Linux_Galore> thanks
[02:08] <ompaul> HappyFool, you are more likely to be better off there alright - lara see HappyFool's last comment
[02:08] <raghu> Crys_Ubu_PC: never worked on Monkey
[02:08] <Revellion> :\
[02:08] <alessandropironi> can anybody help me? after breezy upgrade, my network cards are not working
[02:08] <_jason> KurtKraut:  good news, I got it to play... let me know when you are done installing mplayer and I will explain what I did
[02:08] <ilba7r> anyone know how  well Fujitsu notebooks are supported on ubuntu
[02:08] <Crys_Ubu_PC> raghu Me neither.
[02:08] <raghu> Crys_Ubu_PC: :)
[02:09] <Revellion> ilba7r: just check what HW is used and you will know for sure :)
[02:09] <Crys_Ubu_PC> raghu, What's a pid?
[02:09] <Revellion> Crys_Ubu_PC: PID = Process ID
[02:09] <mfinch> alessand: my network was not working after install as well.  If you are in Gnome go to System admin/networking to start your card.
[02:09] <ilba7r> thanx revellion
[02:09] <Revellion> ilba7r: a good rule of thumb
[02:09] <mfinch> alessand: not sure if a simple reboot will fix that or not.
[02:10] <Revellion> ilba7r: Grahics card and WiFi
[02:10] <Revellion> those can be troublemakers at times
[02:10] <alessandropironi> X is not starting,
[02:10] <alessandropironi> neither
[02:10] <Revellion> i've heard that the ATI problems supposedly decreased a bit lately
[02:10] <Revellion> but avoid getting a laptop with a Broadcom chipset for the WiFi if possible
[02:10] <ilba7r> graphic is ati which i know not will supp
[02:10] <ilba7r> wifi intel pro or atheros
[02:11] <ilba7r> i am still buying the notebook
[02:11] <biju> hi guys
[02:11] <Revellion> ilba7r: check this page
[02:11] <Revellion> ilba7r: http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz
[02:11] <mips> Hi
[02:11] <biju> can anyone help me with grub issue I am having
[02:12] <Revellion> if your WiFi card is in that list and has a Compatible line or w/e then it's good to go usually
[02:12] <Revellion> ilba7r: and yes the intel pro WG's or atheros should work nicely
[02:12] <biju> hi mips
[02:12] <Crys_Ubu_PC> raghu, It's an okay server, if you get it up. Ever use DSL?
[02:12] <dewd_> HappyFool, thanks. My problem probably was the terminal. somehow it cached the location of an executable in /usr/local/bin but I had removed it to use the same in /usr/bin, but it kept going to the /usr/local/bin. I restarted the terminal and it seems to be ok
[02:12] <mfinch> Does anyone know how to reset my repositories.  I think I screwed them up with the Synaptic UI.  Somewhere where I can download a default repository file?
[02:12] <Crys_Ubu_PC> raghu, www.damnsmalllinux.com
[02:12] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Okay, seeya all.
[02:12] <mips> Looking for a Gnome equivalent of Kuickshow ??? Looking for something where I can click back-forward to open other files from the app.
[02:12] <Revellion> ilba7r: just make sure it has a Driver for the card in that table
[02:13] <ilba7r> thanx revellion again
[02:13] <alfred> hi
[02:13] <mips> Revellion: I found a solution to my Logitech mouse problems !!!
[02:14] <alfred> I've got a problem with ubuntu on my laptop. After "Starting hotplug subsystem" ubuntu stops booting
[02:14] <Revellion> mips: neat
[02:14] <Revellion> mips: got it up at 800dpi now? :D
[02:14] <Revellion> and enjoying it? :D
[02:14] <biju> can anyone take a look at this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83285
[02:14] <biju> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83285
[02:15] <mips> Revellion: Yip 800dpi !   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=Install+script
[02:15] <signius> I have just loaded the hostap drivers for my new prism2.5 based wireless card and i have wifo0 and also wlan0 which one should i configure for the wireless network ?
[02:15] <raghu> Crys_Ubu_PC: wht is that link
[02:15] <mips> Revellion: Very nice little guide that.
[02:15] <Revellion> mips:  :D
[02:15] <Revellion> great stuff :)
[02:15] <Revellion> always good to be able to use the HW to 100% :D
[02:15] <octagon_> anyone who had any new 'experiences' with Rhythmbox after upgrading to Breezy ?
[02:15] <Revellion> mips: got all buttons working too btw? :)
[02:15] <scanwinder> does anyone know howto set a background colour in openbox?
[02:16] <_jason> octagon_:  nope, what do you mean
[02:16] <Revellion> scanwinder: xsetroot -bg <color-here>
[02:16] <Revellion> ?
[02:16] <octagon_> _jason: it won't play .pls files from shoutcast anymore.. if I enter the URL+description manually it works...
[02:17] <octagon_> _jason: I did try to add a new user and run rhythmbox from that one aswell.. same situation.. so it's not related to the old config
[02:17] <mips> Revellion: Havent tried yet but they should work according to the guid. To be honest I have never used the two side bottoms. Cannot contort my fingers into the right position ;)  I only use the main two buttons, scrollwheel & middle click.
[02:17] <_jason> octagon_:  I can give it a try on mine, link me to a .pls and I'll let you know if I have the same problem
[02:17] <biju> any grub experts here?
[02:18] <scanwinder> Revellion: when i do that, the colour dosent change and the curser goes 2 a cross
[02:18] <octagon_> _jason: http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3281&file=filename.pls
[02:19] <kandoora_> ok i'm not getting this, what do i need to do to make my wireless adsl work
[02:19] <octagon_> _jason: happens *everytime* I click "Tune in" at shoutcast.com
[02:19] <kandoora_> what are the requirements
[02:19] <Alex> kandoora_: BLood of 50 virgins..
[02:19] <octagon_> _jason: that is.... it's obvious it checks the file, then nothing
[02:19] <kandoora_> alex: gimme a break
[02:19] <octagon_> kandoora_: a WLAN card that is supported ?
[02:19] <NanoBCN28> Hi people. One question. Is it possible to install Ubuntu remotely without keyboard/monitor?
[02:19] <octagon_> or WiFi is the term, I guess
[02:20] <martin_> Any one can point me to mail server how to? I tryed Hoary one but it is not realy workable for Breezy on MAD64
[02:20] <Alex> kandoora_: Generally, it depends on your card :) ndiswrapper works great with mine, for instance
[02:20] <Bonzodog> wireless ADSL is fun in Ubuntu
[02:20] <_jason> octagon_:  happens to me too
[02:20] <kandoora_> how do i know if my wireless card is supported
[02:21] <kandoora_> i do get a signal strength
[02:21] <raghu> martin: postfix.org or qmail.org
[02:21] <kandoora_> does that mean that it's working
[02:21] <octagon_> _jason: ok..... it worked in Hoary (or whatever the last one was named).... can't understand why it won't work now
[02:21] <mips> biju: Sorry, I have no grub experience. Have you tried a search in the ubuntu forums ?
[02:21] <Alex> kandoora_: What card is it?
[02:21] <mustard5> ubotu: tell kandoora_ about wireless
[02:21] <biju> yes I did mips, but couldnt find anyone with my problem
[02:21] <mustard5> kandoora_, look at link from ubotu
[02:21] <_jason> octagon_:  when i try $rhythmbox http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3281&file=filename.pls, it doesn't play either... maybe we need to look at the man for some switch
[02:22] <Bonzodog> Mips whats your problem
[02:22] <octagon_> _jason: is rhythmbox the default player to be invoked from your w3 browser ?
[02:22] <_jason> octagon, nope it was gmplayer
[02:22] <biju> I even posted it on the forum, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83285, but no response so far
[02:22] <martin_> Raghu: will there howtoos fit my configuration (5.10/AMD 64)?
[02:22] <octagon_> _jason: ok..
[02:23] <kandoora_> it's an intel pro wireless 2200
[02:23] <raghu> martin: may be not sure ...it should work
[02:23] <octagon_> _jason: seems like there is a '-d' option for debugging
[02:24] <mips> Bonzodog: I dont have a problem, just looking for a Gnome kuickshow equivalent ?
[02:24] <martin_> Thanks!
[02:24] <raghu> Kandoora_: it well supports wireless
[02:24] <Bonzodog> sorry. wrong person
[02:24] <raghu> martin: np
[02:24] <mips> Bonzodog: biju has Grub probs, cannot boot his laptop. Grub screen blank.
[02:24] <Bonzodog> looking at biju's prob
[02:24] <Bonzodog> I think grub is hanging
[02:24] <kandoora_> raghu: what settings do i need to make
[02:25] <sorush20> which kind of font would be best for Linux TTF or PS,
[02:25] <kandoora_> i've entered the ip address
[02:25] <sorush20> ?
[02:25] <kandoora_> default gateway
[02:25] <raghu> Bonzodog: you want to restore grub
[02:25] <kandoora_> subnet mask
[02:25] <kandoora_> what esle
[02:25] <Bonzodog> right, i need him to go into /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:25] <raghu> Bonzodog: bot form ubuntu live cd
[02:26] <raghu> Bonzodog: and edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:26] <Bonzodog> raghu: trying to solve biju's prob
[02:26] <Bonzodog> with grub
[02:26] <Bonzodog> I was gonna suggest boot off live CD
[02:26] <Distro^Junkie> any reason why my drives keep erroring out when trying to copy files from a dvd ?
[02:26] <raghu> kandoora_: have you installed drivers for wireless card
[02:27] <Bonzodog> then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:27] <KurtKraut> Wich command I do in aptitude to remove all packages that there is no other packages that depends on them, to save hard disk space ?
[02:28] <Bonzodog> uncomment the section that has 'hiddenmenu'
[02:28] <bob2> KurtKraut: debfoster is a simpler tool for that
[02:28] <raghu> Bonzodog: easy way easy boot with cd and then remount all the partition again but when it asks towrite changes to disk say no and then go to install grub menyu and install it and reboot it works
[02:28] <Bonzodog> it could do, but we have to find out why grub failed to install in the first place
[02:29] <raghu> kandoora_ :??
[02:29] <Bonzodog> lappys are known to be awkward devils with stuff like this
[02:29] <Bonzodog> the greatest majority of H/W probs in linux are on lappys
[02:29] <raghu> Bonzodog: ya true...:)
[02:29] <jonny> hey, x1024 doesnt work properly in KDE or Fluxbox, but fine in GNOME!
[02:29] <Bonzodog> most desktops seem to work out of the box
[02:29] <biju> i tried restoring grub too
[02:30] <biju> should by /boot be the first partition?
[02:30] <Bonzodog> biju: do you have /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[02:30] <bob2> you shouldn't have a /boot at all, generally
[02:31] <jonny> hey, x1024 doesnt work properly in KDE or Fluxbox, but fine in GNOME!
[02:31] <mips> biju:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[02:31] <biju> yyes bonzi, I do have /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:31] <raghu> bob2: yes but if /boot is ther also no problem
[02:31] <Bonzodog> so does it look normal?
[02:31] <Bonzodog> or is there a prob in the file?
[02:31] <jonny> hey, x1024 doesnt work properly in KDE or Fluxbox, but fine in GNOME!
[02:31] <bob2> raghu: yes, you almost certainly do not need a /boot
[02:32] <bob2> jonny: no need to repeat...
[02:32] <Bonzodog> jonny: we heard you the first time
[02:32] <raghu> bob2: :)
[02:32] <jonny> ok, sorry
[02:32] <cosonic> hmmm
[02:32] <USER06488> chi parla con me
[02:32] <biju> the menu.lst file looks ok, all the os's show up when I boot with my suse cd
[02:32] <KurtKraut> bob2, thanls
[02:32] <Bonzodog> your suse CD uses it's own bootloader
[02:33] <cosonic> whats the simplest mirc client for ubuntu? im used to mirc in windows so i would like to have a similar one please?
[02:33] <bob2> you mean "irc client"
[02:33] <Bonzodog> mirc is just a program
[02:33] <Bonzodog> use Xchat
[02:33] <Gorks> cosonic: xchat
[02:33] <bob2> x-chat is fiarly reminiscent of mirc, it's already installed
[02:33] <raghu> cosonic: xchat,
[02:33] <Bonzodog> closest you're gonna get
[02:33] <bob2> applications -> network -> x-chat
[02:33] <cosonic> im new to linux so bear with me
[02:33] <biju> mips, thanks for the link
[02:33] <WoundUp> hmm.  According to my console login, and /etc/redhat-release I'm running 4.2 - ionteresting since I installed 4.1
[02:34] <jonny> can an iso image be sent VIA email so the person your sending it to doesnt have to download it
[02:34] <jonny> ?
[02:34] <bob2> jonny: yes, but that would be stupid
[02:34] <_jason> octagon_:  apparently it is a known bug that is being worked on: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10352
[02:34] <WoundUp> oh bshit wrong channel
[02:34] <Bonzodog> ISO's are huge
[02:34] <cosonic> ok another question..i want to install mplayer but i aint get anywheere
[02:34] <bob2> jonny: a CD image is 650MB, do you really think their mailbox will fit that?
[02:34] <jonny> bob2: I just figured it takes so long to download...
[02:34] <bob2> cosonic: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:35] <biju> bonzo/raghu thanks guys, I will try restoring my grub
[02:35] <bob2> jonny: no, it would take longer
[02:35] <biju> and see how it goes
[02:35] <jonny> bob2: I use gmail, so yes
[02:35] <Bonzodog> ok biju
[02:35] <jimcooncat> upgraded to Breezy, sound not working now. Doesn't seem to be recognized by device manager. ADI AD1888 SoundMAX. What to do next, please?
[02:35] <Distro^Junkie> anyone know how to limit read speed on dvdroms and the sort ?
[02:35] <raghu> biju : good luck it is easy try
[02:35] <bob2> Distro^Junkie: with the aim of?
[02:35] <bob2> jimcooncat: ignore the device manager entirely
[02:35] <silent_scream> hey guys how can i make a boot disk for ubuntu ?
[02:35] <jimcooncat> bob2, do I have to modprobe something?
[02:36] <Distro^Junkie> bob2 trying to copy files from a dvd and it keeps erroring out radomly
[02:36] <Distro^Junkie> randomly*
[02:36] <bob2> jimcooncat: no, you need ti figure out why it's not working, first
[02:36] <bob2> jimcooncat: what card is it?
[02:36] <bob2> silent_scream: to do what? to avoid installing a bootloader on disk?
[02:36] <bob2> Distro^Junkie: how would "limit read speed" help with that?
[02:36] <jimcooncat> on my motherboard, specs say its AD1888 SoundMAX
[02:36] <signius> why is it that if a wireless netowkr card is called anything other than eth1 in ubuntu it seems to now work
[02:37] <signius> not matter what i do it insists on starting eth1 on boot up
[02:37] <bob2> signius: that would be your /etc/network/interfaces being incorrect
[02:37] <Distro^Junkie> maybe its reading the files too fast
[02:37] <cosonic> bob2  i dont think its illegal..
[02:37] <silent_scream> no i just want to make a boot disk... bob2 just in case...
[02:37] <cosonic> o download it here
[02:37] <signius> no it wouldnt
[02:37] <zakame> hi all
[02:37] <bob2> signius: yes, if you don't want it to do that, disable it
[02:37] <signius> i just edited them and rebooted
[02:37] <jonny> are there any viruses for linux?
[02:37] <bob2> silent_scream: the mkbootdisk command might work.
[02:37] <mips> Whats the best image viewer for Ubuntu ?
[02:37] <bob2> Distro^Junkie: that's unlikely to be the issue
[02:37] <bob2> cosonic: ok, but read that page
[02:37] <bob2> jonny: yes, but you're extraordinarily unlikely to get them
[02:38] <signius> I had this same thing with a cisco card now its doing it with a prism based card
[02:38] <bob2> mips: there is no best
[02:38] <bob2> signius: uh, duh, the interface name will be different
[02:38] <vincent_> what was again the command to run something without occupying the xterm window?
[02:38] <jonny> bob2: so I need no antivirus?] 
[02:38] <bob2> signius: fix /etc/network/interfaces to reflect that
[02:38] <signius> bob2 i have
[02:38] <bob2> jonny: correct, just don't run crap you don't trust
[02:38] <vincent_> I knew it once, but I have forgotten :-(
[02:38] <silent_scream> bob2, it didn't work
[02:38] <bob2> signius: and now the problem is...
[02:38] <bob2> vincent_: foo&?
[02:38] <jonny> bob2: thanks
[02:38] <vincent_> thanks!
[02:38] <dooglus> is it possible to make encrypted CDs, so that I have to provide a passphrase before I can mount them?
[02:38] <jimcooncat> jonny, you only need antivirus if you want to filter mail for Windows users
[02:38] <signius> it only has wlan0 there now and i edited ou the auto eth1 stuff
[02:39] <bob2> vincent_: 'nohup foo&' means it will run after the exterm is closed, too
[02:39] <signius> yet it still insists on trying to start eth1 when it boots up
[02:39] <bob2> dooglus: sure, you can encrypt any block of data you like
[02:39] <mips> bob2: I'm looking for something similair to the windows one. can click back-forward to go to next/previus image ???
[02:39] <bob2> dooglus: if you want ones that can be simply mounted, dm-crypt is probably what you want to look at
[02:39] <signius> i have activated and configured wlan0 and left wifi0 alone
[02:39] <aeon17x> !cdwriting
[02:39] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, aeon17x
[02:39] <dooglus> bob2: thanks
[02:39] <Bonzodog> Jimcooncat: your soundcard needs drivers from Asus
[02:39] <bob2> signius: paste it to #flood
[02:40] <signius> thats going to a no no as i havnt got any network on the laptop to paste the full out put
[02:40] <signius> i am on a diff machine at present
[02:40] <jimcooncat> Thanks, Bonzodog. Their darn website is down, and googling AD1888 comes up with nothing. Any more generic drivers available?
[02:40] <bob2> well, you'll have to fix it yourself then
[02:40] <dooglus> bob2: where might I find the documentation for dm-crypt?
[02:40] <signius> fair enough
[02:40] <bob2> dooglus: "dmcrypt howto" on google
[02:41] <green-mouse> mips: u need image viewer?
[02:41] <dooglus> thanks bob
[02:41] <bob2> jonny: sudo modprobe snd-ad1816a, might be a start
[02:41] <mips> green-mouse: yes something better than what comes with breezy
[02:42] <bob2> mips: breezy comes with about 17 000 000 image viewers
[02:42] <green-mouse> mips: try gqview "sudo apt-get install gqview"
[02:42] <prasys> regarding the breezy upgrade , i'm bit stucked here
[02:42] <mips> bob2: referring to default install
[02:43] <prasys> update-notifier , how do i start it
[02:43] <mips> green-mouse: thx
[02:43] <silent_scream> can i make a boot disk for ubuntu ?
[02:43] <mustard5> prasys, double click on it?
[02:43] <bob2> silent_scream: it appears to involve compiling your own kernel
[02:44] <cosonic> bob2 im sorry m8 but i couldnt find anything in that page i could relate to ?
[02:44] <mfinch> My /etc/apt/sources.list file is messed up.  Is there an official on the web that I could download?
[02:44] <mips> silent_scream: why dont you use a livecd ?
[02:44] <bob2> mfinch: sudo apt-setup
[02:44] <apokryphos> !tell mfinch about sources
[02:44] <green-mouse> silent_scream: ubutu livecd not good for u?
[02:44] <bob2> mfinch: also, make backups of config files before editing them, in future
[02:44] <silent_scream> cause i dont have one!
[02:44] <silent_scream> thnx any way
[02:45] <memin> Hello
[02:45] <mustard5> welcome memin
[02:45] <prasys> mustard5, thanks
[02:45] <Bonzodog> jimcooncat: right, have googled on it...
[02:45] <Bonzodog> it's complicated but....
[02:45] <memin> mustard5 thanks
[02:45] <raghu> mfinch : search in ubuntu site
[02:46] <mips> green-moouse: dont see any forward/back buttons to scroll through images ?
[02:46] <bob2> !+repos
[02:46] <ubotu> How to add repositories:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:46] <bob2> cosonic: read that
[02:46] <bob2> cosonic: it's in the multiverse archive
[02:46] <memin> Will there ever be breezy backports?
[02:46] <mfinch> bob2: thanks for the answer.  apt-setup creates a new sources.list file for me!  Excellent.
[02:46] <Alex_BO2> HELLO!I downloaded some videos from amule, but i can't see them because xine says me that the files are encrypted.how can i do?
[02:46] <apokryphos> memin: yes, but not yet.
[02:47] <green-mouse> mips: try pageDown, pageUp
[02:47] <Bonzodog> jimcooncat: your card is basically an Asus/ATI card
[02:47] <morgs^^> when i start ubuntu, it hangs on the networking bit for ages .. .everythig else was really quck ... is that normal ?
[02:47] <bob2> memin: /topic
[02:47] <vincent_> so, how do you write spyware?
[02:47] <Bonzodog> I would guess that your mobo is an asus one
[02:47] <vincent_> why on earth would you want to do it?
[02:47] <memin> bob2 ?
[02:47] <bob2> Alex_BO2: you should ask for a full refund
[02:47] <mustard5> Alex_BO2, your not talking about those ones that you have to pay for are you?
[02:47] <balrog-kun> hi there
[02:48] <bob2> morgs^^: plug it in to your network
[02:48] <mips> green-mouse: that means i have to take my hand off the mouse :)
[02:48] <bob2> vincent_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:48] <prasys> how long it normally takes to configure libc6
[02:48] <green-mouse> mips: or click on file list and use cursor keys :)
[02:48] <balrog-kun> what happens to old configuration files in /etc when doin dist-upgrade in synaptic?
[02:48] <balrog-kun> are they lost?
[02:48] <Alex_BO2> bob2, mustard5, i'm wondering why i can't see them
[02:48] <bob2> balrog-kun: of course not
[02:48] <memin> bob2 I reed the topic that's why I ask..
[02:48] <morgs^^> bob2 the cable is it ...
[02:48] <prasys> i'm doing a dist-upgrade and now its stucked doing libc
[02:49] <memin> bob2 I reed the topic that's why I asked..
[02:49] <mustard5> Alex_BO2, because you need to pay for them
[02:49] <mips> green-mouse: to much hassle, need forward/back buttons ;)
[02:49] <bob2> balrog-kun: this is not some half-arsesd OS; unchanged files are upgraded automatically, modified ones will ask you to see what you want to do
[02:49] <bob2> memin: hopefully they won't ever exist
[02:49] <Alex_BO2> mustard5, is there a tool to decrypt them?
[02:49] <balrog-kun> bob2: it seems all the settings were reset, additionaly the old fonts are missing
[02:49] <bob2> memin: I guess they will at some point, tho; ask the forums people
[02:49] <bob2> balrog-kun: "all the settings" = ?
[02:49] <memin> bob2 why not?
[02:49] <balrog-kun> bob2: well, locales, themes
[02:50] <bob2> memin: because they encourage people who have no idea what they are doing to break their system
[02:50] <mustard5> Alex_BO2, enquire with the people who encrypted them
[02:50] <green-mouse> mips: u can`t live without mouse? :)
[02:50] <balrog-kun> bob2: it was in synapting, not using apt-get - would it still ask about configuration files?
[02:50] <balrog-kun> synaptic*
[02:50] <bob2> balrog-kun: what do you mean by locales? the default locale as set in /etc/environment was changed?
[02:50] <bob2> balrog-kun: I'd assume so
[02:50] <Alex_BO2> mustard5, i found this problem only with *.wmv files
[02:50] <MaTaKs> how to hide directories using terminal?
[02:50] <mips> green-mouse: no, it's super glued to my hand
[02:50] <balrog-kun> hm ok
[02:50] <bob2> MaTaKs: rename them them to start with a .
[02:51] <dooglus> bob2: I see that dm-crypt can be used to make an encrypted hard disk partition.  but are you sure it can be used to make encrypted iso9660 images?
[02:51] <balrog-kun> bob2: yes, the default locale reverted to C and when i change it manualy in a terminal the programs say locale si not supported
[02:51] <mustard5> Alex_BO2, if you never subscribed to a service to actually view them then they are worthless to you
[02:51] <bob2> balrog-kun: that would be a bug
[02:51] <MaTaKs> ok when i rename them starting with . it automatically hide?
[02:51] <Bonzodog> jimcooncat: try running $sudo alsaconf off the command line...the driver should be called the snd_atiixp ALSA driver
[02:51] <bob2> dooglus: you can put anything you like on an a blank CD, including a gpg encrypted .iso image
[02:51] <dooglus> MaTaKs: all files beginning with '.' are 'hidden' in UNIX
[02:51] <balrog-kun> bob2: well, probably i messed something then :)
[02:51] <MaTaKs> yea i know
[02:52] <vincent_> .iso image
[02:52] <bob2> dooglus: I strongly suspect you can tell dm-crypt to read sit in front of an ecnrypted cd so you can mount it, but I have not tried it
[02:52] <dooglus> bob2: ok, but is it then mountable?
[02:52] <memin> How usefull do you people think the backports are?
[02:52] <bob2> memin: not at all
[02:52] <mustard5> memin, as useful as individual circumstance dictates :)
[02:52] <dooglus> bob2: are you suggesting gpg as an alternative to dm-crypt?  or in conjunction with it?  (I'm new to dm-crypt - only just started reading about it)
[02:52] <mips> greenmouse: Found a solution, it's called mouse scroll wheel !!! Do I feel stupid now as this is even better !!
[02:53] <prasys> how long it takes libc6 to do a dist-upgrade
[02:53] <green-mouse> mips: u can scroll images with mouse wheel
[02:53] <bob2> prasys: 71 hours
[02:54] <prasys> ouch
[02:54] <mips> green-mouse: why did'nt you say so ;)
[02:54] <bob2> ugh
[02:54] <prasys> 71 hours
[02:54] <prasys> on what processor..
[02:55] <bob2> it's almost as if there's no actual time limit
[02:55] <mustard5> prasys, why do you need to know?
[02:55] <bob2> and that it depend on your system
[02:55] <bob2> *almost*!
[02:55] <prasys> no no , i got some stuff to run on it (its on my AMD AXP 2400+)
[02:55] <prasys> at 2.0ghz
[02:55] <bob2> then some random amount of time
[02:55] <prasys> bit worried about the heat
[02:55] <bob2> if it takes more than a couple of minutes, something is broken
[02:56] <bob2> if your system overheats while in use, it's broken
[02:56] <prasys> umm
[02:56] <mustard5> 0_o
[02:57] <mustard5> this is a very strange conversation :)
[02:57] <prasys> ouch , perl errors !
[02:57] <prasys> lol
[02:57] <prasys> yes , indded a strange conversation
[02:58] <gabriel> hi
[02:58] <reiki> how would I begin to try and locate a memory leaking program? I went to bed last night using 149MB out of 512. And no swap. This morning I'm at 221MB used and 10.4 MB swap. I surfed for a bit this morning. And had The Gimp open
[02:58] <mustard5> hey gabriel
[02:58] <gabriel> portuguese
[02:58] <bob2> reiki: ignore it
[02:58] <JMF> I would like to know how to prevent hotplug to found my printer when I plug it. Anyone one has a clue ?
[02:58] <prasys> ouch
[02:58] <Bonzodog> reiki: linux doesn't scrub memory
[02:58] <bob2> reiki: or show us the output of "free -m" in #flood
[02:59] <bob2> Bonzodog: scrub is not an accurate term
[02:59] <gabriel> mustard do you speak portuguese?
[02:59] <bob2> linux uses disk cache
[02:59] <mustard5> !pt
[02:59] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:59] <bob2> JMF: why?
[02:59] <Alex> Hey bob2!
[02:59] <gabriel> !pt this is good
[02:59] <ubotu> okay, gabriel
[02:59] <Bonzodog> sorry bob2, trying to think of better terminology
[02:59] <Bilskinir> hello
[02:59] <bob2> hi
[02:59] <JMF> because I use Windows through VMWare to use my printer since it does not have a Linux driver
[03:00] <bob2> gabriel: Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:00] <signius> ok on the laptop on the wired nic now
[03:00] <gabriel> e ai bob
[03:00] <JMF> bob2 : and VMWare can not access a USB device if the host OS handle it
[03:00] <Bonzodog> printer with no linux driver?
[03:00] <gabriel> tranquilo?
[03:00] <Bilskinir> whats a good media player for Ubuntu
[03:00] <Bilskinir> that will handle mp3s
[03:00] <prasys> amarok
[03:00] <JMF> Bonzodog : Lexmarl P6250
[03:00] <Bilskinir> amarok?
[03:00] <KurtKraut> I've installed libdvdcss2 but I'm getting a worse DVD playback quality comparing to Windows. Is there any way to fix it ?
[03:00] <reiki> bob2: pasted free -m output into #flood
[03:01] <Bonzodog> how's it connected?
[03:01] <gabriel> e ai cara vc eh de onde?
[03:01] <JMF> Bonzodog : USB
[03:01] <Bonzodog> USB or parallel
[03:01] <bob2> gabriel: enough
[03:01] <Bonzodog> doesn't cups detect it?
[03:01] <Bonzodog> on the USB interface?
[03:01] <bob2> reiki: you have 276MB of free ram, that sounds like plenty...
[03:02] <bob2> reiki: the kernel will use it as disk cache until something more important needs it
[03:02] <ProN00b> Bilskinir, almost anything is good, just check that plays mp3's and is also usable as a generic storage device over usb (support for fat32 might be usefull too)
[03:02] <prasys> dang , i'm stucked on 640x480..lol it asked me to restart services or not
[03:02] <JMF> Bonzodog : in the device panel it is found with the right brand and model but when I try ton install a new printer, the driver is not there and not on the Lexmark site
[03:03] <reiki> bob2: ok... I guess I have to learn a bit more about memory use in linux. It just seemed some programs had gotten... a bit sluggish this morning
[03:03] <Bilskinir> ProN00b, how do I get my RythmnBox supporting mprs?
[03:03] <Bilskinir> mp3s**
[03:03] <El_Che> !mp3
[03:03] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[03:03] <bob2> reiki: perhaps, but that's unrelated to what "top" or whatever say about toal free memory
[03:04] <ProN00b> whats rythmbox ?
[03:04] <reiki> bob2: ok thanks... I'll not worry about it then... and learn more about it instead :)  thanks again
[03:04] <Bilskinir> the default music player on ubuntu
[03:04] <deFrysk> reiki, unused memory is wasted memory
[03:04] <Bonzodog> hrm...curious that, it's isn't in the list
[03:05] <JMF> Bonzodog : it is quite new (about 3 months)
[03:05] <mustard5> reiki, if you put the system-monitor applet on one of your panels you can watch how your system is using memory :)
[03:05] <prasys> gosh , the system is going really hot
[03:05] <prasys> just curious , is ubotu a person or a bot
[03:05] <darksatanic> It's a bot
[03:05] <deFrysk> bot
[03:05] <prasys> it speaks like a human
[03:05] <El_Che> a fast typer
[03:05] <deFrysk> !ubotu
[03:05] <prasys> very good AI , i'm pretty impressed !
[03:05] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:05] <bob2> it has no AI at all
[03:06] <signius> whats the pastebin url so i can paste the contents of my /etc/network/interfaces
[03:06] <JMF> Bonzodog : so since I already have a VMWare for other purposes, I would like to use my printer through it
[03:06] <bob2> it does nothing but return values based on db keys
[03:06] <prasys> amazing
[03:06] <prasys> !add
[03:06] <ubotu> I guess add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[03:06] <prasys> it speaks like a human
[03:06] <prasys> !add gcc4
[03:06] <ubotu> prasys: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:06] <apokryphos> he's really just a little man trapped in a box with a computer; super typer.
[03:06] <bob2> prasys: you can talk to it in /msg
[03:06] <prasys> okay , so it supports PM
[03:06] <prasys> okay
[03:06] <prasys> thanks bob2
[03:07] <JMF> Bonzodog : the problem is that I need to say to hotplug not to handle my printer when plugged in
[03:08] <prasys> offtopic , whats with the karma thingy
[03:08] <ompaul> prasys, go into #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:09] <Bonzodog> JMF: just checked with linux prinitng forums...
[03:10] <Bonzodog> the P6250 is not supported under linux
[03:10] <Bonzodog> the idea is 'write your own drivers with our devlopment kit'
[03:10] <vincent_> so.. hallucinating is not good?
[03:10] <JMF> Bonzodog :  I know that's why I am here
[03:10] <Bonzodog> I know that generally experienced linux users stay away from lexmark
[03:11] <Bonzodog> I got myself an Epson
[03:11] <vincent_> what is lexmark?
[03:11] <Bonzodog> Lexmark: printer manufacturers
[03:11] <JMF> I know also but I got this printer 1 month before I definitly switched to Linux
[03:11] <Dred> oias
[03:11] <jarekj> HP has good support
[03:11] <signius> bob2 http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3786
[03:11] <prasys> hp , canon
[03:12] <Bonzodog> I have to admit this box was specced for linux...
[03:12] <Dred> NICK/Gandalf
[03:12] <Bonzodog> So i bought the bits with linux compatability in mind
[03:12] <prasys> this box , Bonzodog . I don't quite get you..is it your printer or your pc
[03:12] <Bonzodog> the whole computer
[03:12] <JMF> Bonzodog : my next one would be too but this time it is too late and I try to face the problem
[03:12] <Bonzodog> Bulit from the ground up
[03:12] <Dred> oo
[03:13] <bob2> signius: you really want wifi0, wlan0 and eth0 to all come up at boot?
[03:13] <Bonzodog> bought the components as a kit
[03:13] <Bonzodog> all AMD/NVidia
[03:13] <prasys> Bonzodog, AMD64
[03:13] <Bonzodog> SysInfo: uname: Linux 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ 2009.810 MHz Bogomips: 3973.12 Mem: 649/998M  Diskspace: 152.37G Free: 147.42G Procs: 80 Uptime: 1 hr 32 mins 42 secs Load: 1.47 1.79 1.95  | Vpenis: 7000000 cm Screen: nVidia Corporation GeForce 6200 (rev a1) Screen Resolution: 1280x1024 (24 bpp) eth0: In: 6.33M Out: 1.17M
[03:13] <JMF> Bonzodog : I do not want to be impolite but I know all that you are saying and it has nothing to do with my problem
[03:14] <prasys> great...my AMD AXP 2400+ was bulit for linux too , all of the hardware does work out of the box
[03:14] <Bonzodog> sorry...drifetd off there
[03:14] <prasys> Bonzodog, can you send me the x-chat sysinfo script (you should pm me instead)
[03:14] <Gandalf> heloo
[03:14] <prasys> hello
[03:14] <Bonzodog> right...knock the printer out by adding it to the hotplug blacklist
[03:14] <signius> no i just want it to load either wlan0 really the eth0 is only htere as i had to get this on the net with the wired nic to do some pasting of outputs and the wifi0 os the same wirless nic and as far as i know i shouldnt need to touch that all i configured just now trying to get the wireless nic working
[03:14] <Gandalf> someone here is portuguese
[03:15] <prasys> #ubuntu-pr ?
[03:15] <JMF> Bonzodog :  that's precisely what I was asking in the first place ;)
[03:15] <signius> so unlitmately it should just try eth0 then of its not plugged in load wlan0
[03:15] <deFrysk> ubuntu-br
[03:15] <Bonzodog> JMF sorry about that
[03:15] <prasys> whoops , ubuntu-br
[03:15] <JMF> Bonzodog : I do not knwo how to do that
[03:15] <prasys> yep
[03:15] <prasys> Bonzodog, do you have the sysinfo script with you
[03:15] <Bonzodog> yep...hold
[03:15] <JMF> Bonzodog : no problem :)
[03:16] <prasys> Bonzodog, i want it..its a good one , i never seen anything like that for xchat
[03:16] <signius> bob2 the problem is that ubuntu inisists on trying to start eth1 no matter what wireless is installed even when a eth1 doesnt exist
[03:17] <signius> bob2 i have this same problem with a cisco card also so i dont know if this an ubuntu problem or a kernel problem
[03:17] <bob2> signius: define "insist on trying to start"
[03:18] <Bonzodog> prasys: I need your email addy
[03:18] <mla_> Hello
[03:18] <prasys> Bonzodog, pradeesh at gmail dot com
[03:18] <Bonzodog> pm is blocked on this server
[03:18] <prasys> am i registered
[03:19] <prasys> umm , Bonzodog , have you identify yourself to services (ps - sorry about going off-topic)
[03:19] <mla_> A little question : processor intel pentium M 740 : kernel 686 or 686-smp ?
[03:19] <prasys> kernel 686
[03:19] <prasys> mla_, that thing does not have 2 or more processors
[03:19] <prasys> unless you got your one with HT Or somesort (umm , pentium-m 740 does not have HT ,so go with kernel 686)
[03:19] <signius> bob2 reboot laptop no working wireless network click on the network icon and i get an error SIOCGIFFLAG and the only available nics are lo and eth1 even tho there is no eth1
[03:20] <mla_> thanks prasys
[03:20] <prasys> mla_, welcome...is it on a desktop or on a laptop
[03:20] <mla_> laptop
[03:20] <mla_> vaio vgn-fs315b
[03:21] <signius> bob2 then if i go in via right click properties configure i can configure the correct card tell it what gateway to use activate the card reboot anf get the same issue i am describing
[03:21] <bob2> signius: your original question was incorrect then
[03:21] <prasys> mla_, centrino ..then i would say linux-686..you don't need a SMP support , unless yuou're planning to install a second cpu , which is impossible
[03:21] <mla_> ok
[03:21] <bullraiser> hi, i couldnt increase my screen resolution beyond 1024x768, though my video card allows more higher resolution than this which can be done on dual booting to Win XP. Does anyone know how to do this, as System->Preferences->Screen Resolution doesnt allow me more than 1024x768. Help needed reg. this pls..
[03:21] <signius> bob2 How was my original question wrong ?
[03:22] <mla_> I installed kernel-686 yesterday without know if smp was enabled
[03:22] <mla_> so I made the good choice
[03:22] <jmont> hello, I am intrested in making an customized Ubuntu CD (including native support to Brazilian Portuguese), do anybody know any tutorial or doc's in the internet to do this?
[03:23] <FireCat> Is anyone else having problems installing Breezy?  I keep getting an error installing the base system on initrd-tools
[03:23] <bob2> jmont: read the wiki
[03:23] <bob2> Fuji-san: verify your cd to begin with
[03:23] <bob2> signius: didn't you say it was happening at boot?
[03:23] <Toran> hey guys, why is my [ubuntu]  machine using almost all of my 1gb of memory, and almost none of my swap?
[03:24] <bob2> FireCat: verify your cd
[03:24] <Toran> (at least, according to "free"
[03:24] <kbrooks> why wont apt-file work/
[03:24] <signius> bob2 yes
[03:24] <kbrooks> ?*
[03:24] <mla_> prasys, the reboot on my laptop doesn't work (but shutdown, yes) ? It's a know bugs ?
[03:24] <glauc> is there a journaling file system that I can read/write on both linux and win XP?
[03:24] <bob2> Toran: "ubuntu", paste the output of "free -m" to #flood
[03:24] <bob2> signius: what does it have to do with boot?
[03:24] <bob2> glauc: no
[03:24] <bob2> kbrooks: did oyu initiliase it's db?
[03:24] <kbrooks> bob2: how?
[03:24] <luisito> hello
[03:24] <signius> bob2 every time its rebooted its trying to start with eth1
[03:24] <Bonzodog> Toran: it's the way linux memory works
[03:24] <glauc> bob2: so theres no way to have a dual boot machine with a shread data partition?
[03:24] <signius> bob2 every time its rebooted its trying to start with eth
[03:24] <signius> oops
[03:24] <bob2> kbrooks: man apt-file
[03:25] <signius> didnt mean to double post then
[03:25] <bob2> signius: what?
[03:25] <luisito> I need some help... when not...? :P
[03:25] <bob2> signius: does anythig nactually happen at boot, or arre you talking about in gnome?
[03:25] <bullraiser> hi, i couldnt increase my screen resolution beyond 1024x768, though my video card allows more higher resolution than this which can be done on dual booting to Win XP. Does anyone know how to do this, as System->Preferences->Screen Resolution doesnt allow me more than 1024x768. Help needed reg. this pls.. >> anyone knows solution to this problem?
[03:25] <bob2> glauc: fat32
[03:25] <prasys> mla_, ACPI support ?
[03:25] <Toran> Bonzodog: ah, I was wondering. My computers have always seemed to be using all of my memory up (at least, my linux ones, but those are all I run)
[03:25] <bob2> bullraiser: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:25] <prasys> does it support acpi , does ubuntu supports it
[03:25] <Toran> thanks
[03:25] <signius> bob2 well its booting into gnome
[03:25] <bob2> signius: blah blah
[03:25] <glauc> ugh alright, fat32 = crap but I guess theres no choice
[03:26] <bob2> signius: are you talking about something that happens in gnome, or something that actually happens during boot?
[03:26] <Toran> just  curious, if I suddenly bought 4 more gigs of memory and ran linux in "bigmemory" mode, would that change?
[03:26] <glauc> thanks
[03:26] <Bonzodog> JMF: go to /etc/hotplug/blacklist and edit it
[03:26] <nkrz2> can i make an automatic login at the startup?
[03:26] <Toran> (that's assuming my motherboard can handle that much, anyway ;-) )
[03:26] <Bonzodog> the module dealing with the printer will be listed in there somehhere
[03:26] <mla_> prasys, with the kernel in ubuntu breezy. I have the same bug with reboot at the cd-rom installation
[03:26] <bob2> Toran: you have 619MB of free memory
[03:26] <bullraiser> bob2: I tried following the website, but i couldnt achieve the one to set the screen resolution more than 1024x768, inspite of tuning my /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:26] <bob2> Toran: linux is using most of that for disk cache; it will free it up if something needs it
[03:26] <signius> bob2 I dont know where its going wrong i assume this is irrelevant to gnome itself and has to do with the kernel or some sort of nic configuration
[03:26] <luisito> I think after installing kubuntu desktop, not sure, the sizes of the fonts in ubuntu had changed and they are 10 but looks bigger :/
[03:26] <Toran> bob2: thanks
[03:26] <bob2> signius: holy god
[03:27] <signius> bob2 I am trying to acertain where the problem is now arent i
[03:27] <bob2> signius: you need to actually tell us what is happening
[03:27] <bob2> signius: no one else can see your screen
[03:27] <bob2> signius: why on earth do you think anything with eth1 is happening at all?
[03:27] <signius> bob2 I told you exactly whats happening
[03:27] <prasys> mla_, check the linux acpi website
[03:27] <luisito> anybody help?
[03:27] <prasys> mla_, there are some issues with your laptop
[03:27] <bob2> signius: so it's only when you're using the gnome applet ?
[03:27] <mla_> prasys, thanks
[03:27] <nkrz2> can i make an automatic login at the startup?
[03:27] <Toran> bob2: that also explains why my torsmo memory monitor is displaying different numbers than free, top, etc.
[03:28] <bob2> nkrz2: system -> admin -> login manager, yes
[03:28] <signius> bob2 well its the gome applet i can se the problem with
[03:28] <nkrz2> thx
[03:28] <prasys> mla_, worst come to worst , you're gonna do what i have to do
[03:28] <JMF> Bonzodog :  I have found in the mean time :)
[03:28] <fiend> hey
[03:29] <bob2> signius: right, so it has nothing at all to do with boot
[03:29] <Bonzodog> JMF: sorry it took so long , but got distracted by prasys
[03:29] <JMF> Bonzodog :  I aded usblp, restart the daemon but the module is still loaded
[03:29] <luisito> help please
[03:29] <prasys> Bonzodog, heh..i'm sorry my fault
[03:29] <JMF> Bonzodog :  no problem, that's nice to you to try to help :)
[03:29] <Bonzodog> rmmod usblp
[03:29] <bob2> luisito: #kubuntu
[03:29] <prasys> Bonzodog, i should have asked you to send me the script later (when you're free) but thanks anyway
[03:29] <Revellion> bob2: or modprobe -r usblp...
[03:30] <signius> bob2 so you are sure the kernel isnt feeding ubuntu the wrong information
[03:30] <bob2> signius: ...
[03:30] <bob2> that doesn't even make sense
[03:31] <luisito> bob2, but the problem is in the gdm enviroment
[03:31] <bob2> luisito: great, #kubuntu
[03:31] <bob2> luisito: or use kdm
[03:31] <ProN00b> how can i change the new breezy bootup logo ?
[03:31] <signius> the card doesnt work in a command line either i cant manully bring the card down and back up successfully either
[03:31] <JMF> Bonzodog : I already tried that, now VMware complains about usbhid
[03:31] <bob2> signius: don't make assertions like that unless you're going to say exactly what commands you used
[03:32] <JMF> Bonzodog: if I disable it also my USB mouse does not work anymore
[03:32] <Bonzodog> JMF: O.o
[03:32] <Bonzodog> um
[03:32] <signius> bob2 have you actyully got anything to say that is constructive or can help in actually diagnosing the problem
[03:32] <Bonzodog> of course VMWare
[03:32] <bob2> signius: you're not providing anywhere near enough detail
[03:32] <Bonzodog> sod it
[03:32] <bob2> and it's really frustrating to try to extract it from you
[03:33] <wickedpuppy> signius, aren't ya listening ? tell him the commands that you been doing
[03:33] <bob2> especially after you whinged about "At boot" when you mean "when I use the gnome applet"
[03:33] <JMF> Bonzodog : I have found someone with exactly the same problem but no solution : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/365109
[03:33] <Bonzodog> What is Signius's problem?
[03:33] <Bonzodog> yeah, I googled for it, but it seems a difficult one
[03:33] <ProN00b> how can i change the new breezy bootup logo ?
[03:33] <bob2> signius: so, what commands fail to work?
[03:34] <Bonzodog> ProN00b: thats the splash screen when it's going through the boot processes?
[03:34] <signius> I have configured the card in the gnome applet when i reboot it doesnt bring the card up if i go into a command line and do "ifdown wlan0" it takes the card down and then if i do "ifup wlan0" it tried to bring it up but fails and keeps churning out DHCP stuff
[03:34] <bob2> ignore the applet
[03:34] <signius> i will get the exact errors now
[03:34] <bob2> entirely
[03:34] <prasys> Bonzodog, one last question , whats your e-mail domain (just incase it goes thru spam)
[03:35] <ProN00b> yes, Bonzodog
[03:35] <Bonzodog> prasys: i'm using gmail myself
[03:35] <Bonzodog> Bonzodog01 at gmail dot com
[03:35] <prasys> Bonzodog , got it
[03:35] <signius> I will paste bin the output if i try and bring the card back up
[03:35] <Juhaz> signius, put iwconfig output in there too
[03:35] <ProN00b> signius do you have a dhcp server on your lan ?
[03:36] <jackie> test
[03:36] <prasys> Bonzodog, thanks a lot for the script
[03:36] <jackie> wahaha
[03:36] <ProN00b> noone, can hear you, jackie, the test didn't work
[03:36] <Bonzodog> prasys: I modified it from an original...
[03:36] <signius> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3788
[03:36] <fiend> why are no games available for ubuntu linux?
[03:36] <signius> yes i do have DHCP server and its fully working
[03:36] <JMF> Bonzodog : thanks for your help, I will try to find a solution later
[03:37] <Bonzodog> If you look through the script, you see areas I commented out
[03:37] <prasys> Bonzodog, sweet..i like it , thanks very much
[03:37] <dooglus> bob2: that dm-crypt seems to be exactly what I needed.  I'll need to use it in conjunction with 'losetup' to get it to make me a file I can burn to a CD, but that's fine.
[03:37] <Bonzodog> theres a coloured membar init, but I commented it out
[03:37] <prasys> Bonzodog, let me go through the script and see what changes you have made..this script is a tcl script right..it might be great if i can tweak
[03:37] <Bonzodog> because of rules on other IRC servers
[03:37] <Bonzodog> perl script
[03:37] <signius> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3789 is iwconfig output
[03:38] <ProN00b> signius doesn't look like the dhcp server is answering
[03:38] <hawking> Has anyone managed to use the Gmail-Notify tool with Breezy? I type my username and password it says the login seems to be invalid although they are correct and I can't connect
[03:38] <Bonzodog> ProN00b: I'm not sure where Ubuntu keeps it's splash screen for boot
[03:39] <signius> its lying this problem is only evident when you install a wireless that appears as 2 nics
[03:39] <dv__> hi
[03:39] <bob2> its "lying"?
[03:39] <bob2> that doesn't seem very scientific
[03:39] <signius> i was using this same nic this morning with the orinoco drivers which was using eth1 and it worked fine
[03:40] <dv__> i want to download all packages needed for kde for breezy
[03:40] <signius> i have this same problem with a cisco nic also which also appears as 2 nics
[03:40] <dv__> thing is, this is not the machine where it shall be installed
[03:40] <dv__> so I want to download all necessary ,deb's here, and install them locally at home
[03:40] <fiend> can someone tell me how to instal java?
[03:40] <signius> as soon as i loaded the correct hostap drivers for this prism2.5 card i got all this problem
[03:40] <Bonzodog> fiend: Sun or Blackdown?
[03:40] <fiend> sun
[03:41] <wickedpuppy> dv__, get kubuntu ...
[03:41] <prasys> hawking, i heard gmail changed their handshacking protocol. I think that what may have caused the problem
[03:41] <Bonzodog> I'm using Blackdown myself
[03:41] <dv__> wickedpuppy, not an option
[03:41] <dv__> ubuntu breezy is installed already
[03:41] <hawking> prasys: aha thank you
[03:41] <dv__> besides, I also need gcc
[03:41] <dv__> and I cannt download it at home
[03:41] <Bonzodog> hawking: gamil needs SSL2
[03:41] <Bonzodog> *gmail
[03:42] <fiend> hey
[03:42] <wickedpuppy> dv__, you got to download something anyway .. kde or kubuntu ..
[03:42] <prasys> Bonzodog, ssl2 ?
[03:42] <dv__> yes
[03:42] <Bonzodog> it's part of the handshake
[03:42] <dv__> but I want to download HERE
[03:42] <dcooper00> can someone point me in the right direction for adding firestarter to default run level. when i use the gui to add it to the session, it gives me a perm error
[03:42] <signius> from what i found when googling i should only actually configure the wlan0 and ignore the wifi0 as the wifi0 is the internals of the card
[03:42] <dv__> but not *install* here
[03:42] <dv__> i am using my laptop now, and i am not at home
[03:42] <signius> but i have tried configuring both or one or the other and nothing is working
[03:42] <fiend> WHO CAN TELL ME HOW TO INSTAL SUN JAVA
[03:42] <fiend> ?
[03:43] <prasys> umm , thanks..i think installing ssl2 might fix the problem
[03:43] <bob2> fiend: please top it
[03:43] <hawking> Bonzodog: Ssl2? what should i do for that?
[03:43] <prasys> fiend, can you please cut the caps
[03:43] <bob2> fiend: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:43] <bob2> dv__: time to look into apt-zip
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> dv__, well then download .. you can use synaptic and download package only option
[03:43] <mythtv> how do I create a /dev entry? I need to create /dev/lirc
[03:44] <dv__> but where are they stored?
[03:44] <prasys> hawking, read this (this is where i got my information from)
[03:44] <dv__> bob2, looking into it
[03:44] <bob2> dv__: install it and read the manuals
[03:44] <prasys> article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/605 (sorry for the really wrong url folks)
[03:44] <signius> I wonder if i un-install the hostap-utils will it go back to the orinoco drivers it was using this morning ?
[03:44] <wickedpuppy> mythtv, sudo touch /dev/lirc ?
[03:44] <Bonzodog> there is a section on the gamil site about the encrytion they use
[03:44] <hawking> prasys: what do you mean
[03:44] <dv__> on this laptop, hoary is installed
[03:44] <mythtv> don't I need to use mknod or something?
[03:45] <Bonzodog> I used to set up my evolution client to get it from POP
[03:45] <prasys> hawking, well read there..you might find the awnser that you're looking for
[03:45] <hawking> prasys: read where?
[03:45] <prasys> hawking , is your nick registered (nvm , i will pm you anyway , don't want to take space in this room)
[03:45] <rohal> where should i add export proxy so that apt can use them???
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> mythtv, oh you want to set up a device ... i thought you just want a normal file ...
[03:46] <hawking> thanks
[03:46] <mythtv> wickedpuppy, no, a device
[03:46] <prasys> hawking, well i hope that should help you
[03:46] <prasys> make sure you have the openssl packages installed , hawking
[03:46] <cluster> which player knows aiff files?
[03:46] <prasys> cluster, you must have the right codec
[03:46] <prasys> !aiff
[03:46] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, prasys
[03:46] <dv__> but apt-zip-list forces me to use removable media
[03:46] <hawking> ok
[03:47] <Bonzodog> aiff is apple right?
[03:47] <dv__> wait . /me stupid
[03:47] <prasys> Bonzodog, yep
[03:47] <cluster> prasys: how is called the package with the codec for xmms?
[03:47] <cluster> no clue
[03:48] <viller> wtf????
[03:48] <viller> i can't start synaptic anymore!
[03:49] <selinium> viller, What have you been up to?
[03:49] <selinium> :)
[03:49] <Merturk_NB> any sound experts here?
[03:49] <cluster> prasys: so dude can you help me out?
[03:49] <selinium> Merturk_NB, Have you tried #linux
[03:50] <Merturk_NB> selinium, no, b/c the #ubuntu group would know more about Ubuntu
[03:50] <Merturk_NB> selinium, but it can't hurt
[03:50] <Bonzodog> I thought AAC was the apple codec
[03:51] <selinium> Merturk_NB, I always go there if I can't get help here. :)
[03:52] <prasys> cluster, its in the wiki..just do a search..i know , i have seen it before
[03:53] <corpsefeeder> i download this game which uses java interface.. it says I need to install java virtual machine
[03:53] <prasys> !java
[03:53] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[03:54] <linuxboy> how do I play quicktime movies in ubuntu?
[03:54] <felipe_> Hello
[03:54] <frenkel> where can i stop xscreensaver daemon from starting? (not disable via settings, as its still running then)
[03:54] <darth_prasys> linuxboy, is it one of the apple protected quicktime movies
[03:54] <linuxboy> darth_prasys: no, just a normal quicktime .mov
[03:54] <bobc> my machine is stopping immediately after the bios process during boot, no sign of grub - any ideas of what I can do?
[03:55] <darth_prasys> linuxboy, can i pm you
[03:55] <linuxboy> darth_prasys: yeah, go ahead
[03:55] <Bonzodog> cluster: it's in the synaptic packages as a gstreamer plugin
[03:55] <darth_prasys> thats the link , linuxboy (since its pretty long)
[03:55] <frenkel> where can i stop xscreensaver daemon from starting? (not disable via settings, as its still running then)
[03:56] <peterchen> hallo zusammen, kann mir jemand mit dem einbinden von sata platten helfen?
[03:56] <frenkel> wir sprechen keine deutch in dieses channel
[03:56] <dooglus> !de
[03:56] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[03:56] <peterchen> ok, sorry
[03:56] <felipe_> I'm having trouble installing some packages. For example when I try to instal mysql server I get this: * is not instalable...
[03:57] <bobc> any way I boot the livecd straight to a command line?
[03:57] <cluster> Bonzodog, what are those synaptic packages :-D
[03:57] <Bonzodog> cluster: hold...you want to play this in Xmms?
[03:57] <Bonzodog> I got it wrong...
[03:57] <dabaR__> play what, a .aac file?
[03:58] <Bonzodog> aiff files
[03:58] <Bonzodog> in xmms
[03:58] <Merturk_NB> not much luck in #linux
[03:58] <cluster> yes
[03:58] <dabaR__> Merturk_NB: you never asked your question here anyhow.
[03:58] <Bonzodog> rquires a special plugin from the site
[03:58] <Bonzodog> the Xmms.org site
[03:58] <Merturk_NB> dabaR, ESS-1869 sound card issues
[03:59] <cluster> is there a package?
[03:59] <cluster> ...or maybe a debian package :-D
[03:59] <Bonzodog> looking...
[03:59] <Merturk_NB> dabaR, not even detected
[03:59] <hawking> where is xine?
[03:59] <hawking> it is not in repositories
[03:59] <hawking> who removed it
[04:00] <dabaR__> hawking: add the proper repo.
[04:00] <hawking> where can i find the proper breezy repos?
[04:00] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, why did you leave me? . . . *whimper*
[04:01] <cluster> screw it, i will just compile the sourcecode
[04:01] <cluster> thanx
[04:01] <chefkoch> hello! how can i run teamspeak under amd64 arch?
[04:02] <dabaR> hawking: ask the bot about info xine-ui
[04:02] <baykom> neresi
[04:02] <hawking> !tell hawking about xine-ui
[04:02] <baykom> burasi
[04:02] <hawking> !tell hawking about xine
[04:02] <hawking> yok orasi diil
[04:02] <baykom> voooy ramesiniaaa
[04:02] <baykom> ana sen kimsin
[04:02] <baykom> :D
[04:03] <baykom> ya bu linux deli etti beni
[04:03] <baykom> imdat
[04:03] <hawking> ben stephen hawking
[04:03] <baykom> ahaha bende eowyn
[04:03] <baykom> :D
[04:03] <Kyral> what language is that?
[04:03] <felipe_> which is the spanish channel?
[04:03] <hawking> turkish
[04:03] <Kyral> ah
[04:03] <baykom> sen anlamassn:D
[04:03] <baykom> ahahaha
[04:03] <dabaR> hawking: the bot told you how to ask him about things.
[04:03] <prasys> lol
[04:03] <Kyral> felipe_, #ubuntu-es
[04:03] <Kyral> I think
[04:03] <baykom> neresi buras ya
[04:03] <Kyral> !espanol
[04:03] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Kyral
[04:03] <baykom> ubuntu dan  nefret ettim ha
[04:04] <Kyral> whats the command for the bot...
[04:04] <Gorks> can you stop mounted devices such as cdrom having an icon on your desktop?
[04:04] <_jason> Kyral:  es
[04:04] <dabaR> Kyral: its es, and priv msg him.
[04:04] <Kyral> Gorks yes
[04:04] <hawking> daba: it doesn't know anything about xine
[04:04] <baykom> lan gavurca konusmayin lan
[04:04] <baykom> :D
[04:04] <Bonzodog> cluster: have found the plugin, but source only at the mo...http://www.68k.org/~michael/xmms/
[04:04] <prasys> i'm confused here
[04:04] <hawking> anyway can someone tell me where I can find the right repos for breezy?
[04:04] <baykom> turkce konusun:D
[04:04] <dabaR> hawking: /msg ubotu info xine-ui, /msg ubotu find xine
[04:04] <hawking>  /msg ubotu info xine-ui
[04:04] <dabaR> hawking: ubotu can.
[04:04] <cycom> how would I put a username into something like fstab?  I want to mount a samba share, but I want it to mount that user's smb share, not the same one every time. for example /192.168.1.44/<user variable> instead of /192.168.1.44/joe and username=<user variable> instead of username=<joe>
[04:05] <bobc> can anyone help me with grub? my system isn't booting at all
[04:05] <cycom> bobc: does it get to grub?
[04:05] <hawking> so how can you speak at irc :p
[04:05] <mawe> has anybody ever tried to install phpeclipse under eclipse 3.1.1 (eclipse installed via breezy repository)
[04:05] <bobc> I have two computers of course
[04:05] <Tzi> Hi =) I'm trying to get a set of old Redhat 7.2 machines to operate with a Linux 2.6 kernel module I've written.  I've compiled a 2.6.10 kernel (with everything built in, as I couldn't be bothered mucking around with initrd's and such), and installed it successfully on the machines.  The kernel was compiled on a Fedora Core machine, with module-init-tools 3.2-pre9 compiled from source.  I compiled module-init-tools 3.2-pre9 from source on the Redha
[04:05] <baykom> lan yardm edin
[04:05] <baykom> :D
[04:05] <cycom> bobc: does the one that won't boot get to the grub menu?
[04:05] <hawking> baykom: noldu? sorunun ne? (what's up what's your problem)
[04:06] <Tzi> Excuse the non-ubuntu question.. #ubuntu is habit :P
[04:06] <baykom> havking ozel oda nasl acilio?
[04:06] <bobc> cycom: immediately after the bios process it does nothing - I don't even see GRUB mentioned
[04:06] <cycom> as in it hangs up right after POST?
[04:06] <bobc> cycom: is there anything before grub?
[04:07] <hawking> baykom: /msg hawking ... yazip bana ozel mesaj atabilirsin
[04:07] <hawking> ozel oda acmaya gerek yok
[04:07] <daved> is there any official way to automate apt updates?
[04:07] <bobc> cycom: yes
[04:07] <cycom> bobc: POST (Power On Self Test) and drive detection and the like
[04:07] <cycom> bobc: did your drives appear in the POST?
[04:08] <bobc> yes, all but one, which isn't a boot drive - I don't know what happened to it
[04:08] <Bonzodog> cluster there is a debian package
[04:08] <dabaR> Bonzodog: what program?
[04:08] <hernando> how to share files with other linux systems?
[04:08] <Bonzodog> google for audiofile-Xmms debian
[04:08] <cycom> bobc: hrm... how are the drives connected?
[04:08] <morale> hernando: nfs or samba.
[04:09] <cycom> bobc: and what is the last thing on the screen?
[04:09] <corpsefeeder> trying to install sun java as per instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - can get as far as downloading the file, then when I put"chmod +x jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[04:09] <corpsefeeder> " into the terminal I get "chmod: changing permissions of `jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin': Operation not permitted" what's up with that?
[04:09] <bobc> cycom: three ide hd, one ide cdrom and two sata - the sata are new
[04:09] <keritihw> corpsefeeder, use sudo
[04:09] <morale> corpsefeeder: you probably don't own the file. check the owner.
[04:09] <cycom> bobc: damn son! how much storage you need?! :)
[04:09] <cycom> bobc: what are you booting off of?
[04:09] <bobc> the last thing is Boot from CD:
[04:10] <baykom> ben gidiom ya
[04:10] <baykom> byebye
[04:10] <bobc> cycom: should be /dev/hda1
[04:10] <bobc> cycom: it is a mythtv system - there is never too much storage
[04:11] <Tokenizer> if i want to add an address bar to Nautilius --- where in gconf do i go?
[04:11] <cycom> bobc: :) but in any case, does it still boot from CD?
[04:11] <cycom> bobc: make sure hda1 is flagged bootable and the like
[04:11] <bobc> cycom: yes, I can boot into the install cd
[04:11] <Gorgapor> I'm looking for 2 of the packages mentioned here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs, but they don't seem to exist on any repository
[04:12] <Gorgapor> the packages are w32codecs and libdivx4linux
[04:12] <cycom> bobc: actually, do you have like a LiveCD of some sort so you can edit fstab and try reinstalling grub from?
[04:12] <gilbert_> hi people her
[04:12] <gilbert_> anybody her from minala
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> you mean manila ?
[04:13] <mawe> Tokenizer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77346
[04:13] <hernando> Gorgapor: go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (there you can download w32codecs)
[04:13] <Gorgapor> cool thx
[04:13] <bobc> cycom: I have the livecd, however I only get a blank screen when it boots - this computer is only connected to a tv. is there any way to boot the livecd straight to a command prompt?
[04:13] <Bonzodog> Tokenizer: not sure you cna, I think it was one of the points behind the changes in Ubuntu
[04:13] <Bonzodog> I remember it being mentioned ina review
[04:13] <gilbert_> anybody her from manila
[04:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> anyone know of an ftp server that can filter filetypes by extension?  like blocking downloads of files with a certain extension
[04:13] <cycom> bobc: just hit ctrl alt f1
[04:13] <cycom> bobc: should drop you to a terminal
[04:13] <rohal> how should i install enlightenment 17 on ubuntu???
[04:13] <corpsefeeder> how do I use sudo to do what "chmod +x jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[04:13] <corpsefeeder> " is meant to do? What do you mean i don't own the file?
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> gilbert_, if you have a question about ubuntu just ask here
[04:14] <cycom> corpsefeeder: why not just sudo sh jre-...
[04:14] <Bonzodog> oh, you cna
[04:14] <Bonzodog> can
[04:14] <gilbert_> anybody her can help to have ubuntu cd's of breezy badger i'am from philippines i used dial-up 2 slow to dowload
[04:14] <bobc> cycom: at what point? - doesn't work on the initial screen
[04:14] <corpsefeeder> what does that do?
[04:14] <hernando> how to share files with other linux systems? (not samba)
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> hernando: you mean nfs?
[04:15] <cycom> bobc: hrm.  it should work at the login screen.  idunno.
[04:15] <FireCat> rohal: Every method I've tried didn't work, so I gave up
[04:15] <gilbert_> anybody her can help to have ubuntu cd's of breezy badger i'am from philippines i used dial-up 2 slow to dowload
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> gilbert_, you can order the cds ... check out the website
[04:15] <cycom> bobc: can you connect a monitor to it?
[04:15] <Tokenizer> Mawe... thanks .. i like that Ctrl+L
[04:15] <gilbert_> anybody her can help me  to ship  ubuntu cd's of breezy badger i'am from philippines i used dial-up 2 slow to dowload
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> gilbert_: stop flooding
[04:15] <bobc> cycom: yeah, quite the pain though
[04:16] <hernando> Kamping_Kaiser: the fact is that i have some folders shared with samba, but when openoffice try to load documents at that folders the reports that the file don't exists
[04:16] <bullraiser> Hi, do anyone know how to choose the non-default values while running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hernando: try nfs. but yeh, i know the problem. i asume your using gnomes vfs? not real samba?
[04:16] <hernando> then, how to *nix to *nix share files
[04:16] <cycom> bobc: well, at least it's a one time pain.  That's what I'd do.
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> hernando, rsync
[04:16] <bobc> cycom: anyway, I can get to a command prompt through the rescue on the install cd - what did you want to change on the fstab?
[04:17] <hernando> real samba (from samba site)
[04:17] <cycom> oh.
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> hernando: use nfs - network file serving
[04:17] <cycom> bobc: not in fstab. use fdisk or cfdisk to make sure it's flagged bootable
[04:17] <bullraiser> I got the command line verifying for all default xserver specs and while i was trying to change the screen resolution, i couldnt change the default value from 1024x768. Though its a simple one, finding routes how to change the values while running reconfigure.
[04:17] <gilbert_> i'am a student i cant afford in dollars
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> gilbert_: go to shipit.ubuntulinux.org and order some cds
[04:18] <Bonzodog> gilbert: Ubuntu is totally free
[04:18] <Bonzodog> including shipping
[04:18] <gilbert_> yes i did the request of cd's but nothings happen
[04:18] <gilbert_> i dont know y?
[04:18] <BeowulfGrendel> Hi - is there anyway to change the order that modules from initrd are loaded at boot?
[04:18] <Bonzodog> but it's slow
[04:18] <Bonzodog> give it 3 months
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> gilbert_: it may take a while to arive
[04:19] <gilbert_> i thought ubuntu is for human
[04:19] <bobc> any
[04:19] <clinfix> how can I play .dat movies?
[04:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> gilbert_: lots of humans want it ;)
[04:19] <bullraiser> Hi, do anyone know how to choose the non-default values while running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?. I got the command line verifying for all default xserver specs and while i was trying to change the screen resolution, i couldnt change the default value from 1024x768. Though its a simple one, finding routes how to change the values while running reconfigure. >> Should be pretty easy to choose the options, but dont
[04:19] <bullraiser>  know how. Can anyone help me?
[04:19] <Bonzodog> I ordered my cd's over a month ago, not expecting them until at least christmas
[04:19] <gilbert_> really
[04:20] <Bonzodog> Ubuntu is the fastest gorwing distribution on the planet
[04:20] <gilbert_> i'am came from poor country philippines: i hope they dont expecting any taxes or wat else
[04:20] <Bonzodog> no thyey won't
[04:20] <kreek> Hi :)
[04:21] <luisito> It is possible to reset a session to make it like I never entered with a user before?
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> gilbert_: your customs are the only people you have to worry about, not canonical
[04:21] <Tokenizer> ok....... what am i doing wrong here? ... here is the situation... I install Acitvestate Komodo 3.5 in /usr/local/Komodo_3.5 ...... i run it .. no problem here, i work with it, and do my thing, and exist the program, by File>Quit or pressing that [x]  on right top corner,, then i try to run the program, it says file not found....... i go to /usr/local/Komodo_3.5 and i see that it's empty ...... where did it all go????
[04:21] <bobc> cycom: boot flag is toogled
[04:21] <gilbert_> i hope, i can receive my cd's this xmas "breezy badger"
[04:21] <kreek> I got a question about glib/gtk/atk .. if anybody can & would help me, pls query me :) i think the chan here is to busy
[04:21] <Gorgapor> hernando, they only list an i386 package, i have amd64 (oh no!)
[04:22] <cycom> bobc: hrm... ok.  and what about your bios boot order?
[04:22] <cycom> do any of your other drives have boot flag toggled as well?
[04:22] <bobc> cycom: it is cdrom then harddive
[04:22] <bobc> i'm checking that
[04:22] <gilbert_> no i just want only 1 cds
[04:22] <bullraiser> Hi, do anyone know how to choose the non-default values while running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?. I got the command line verifying for all default xserver specs and while i was trying to change the screen resolution, i couldnt change the default value from 1024x768. Though its a simple one, finding routes how to change the values while running reconfigure. >> anyone???
[04:23] <ranf> hi
[04:23] <cycom> bobc: but WHICH harddrive? see what I'm getting at?
[04:23] <Bonzodog> right, off for a bit...later all
[04:23] <gilbert_> is that ok 4 them
[04:23] <bobc> cycom: sure, but the bios doesn't let me choose
[04:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> bullraiser: didnt it offer you a place to change the resolution?
[04:24] <cycom> if you shut off the bootable flags, you may be able to force it to pick the one that you want (the one with the flag on)
[04:24] <bobc> none of the other drives have a bootable flag set
[04:24] <cycom> anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong! I don't want to be sending bobc on a wild goose chase
[04:24] <cycom> bobc: hrm...
[04:24] <kreek> I got a Problem, if i want to ./configure atk-1.0.3 there comes this error:
[04:24] <kreek> configure: error:
[04:24] <kreek> *** GLIB 2.0.0 or better is required. The latest version of
[04:24] <kreek> *** GLIB is always available from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/.
[04:25] <kreek> but Synapse tell me that its installed
[04:25] <clinfix> .dat??
[04:25] <BeowulfGrendel> kreek, are the -dev files installed?
[04:25] <kreek> i think so
[04:25] <hernando> Gorgapor : so... download from repositories (multiverse and universe) the tomem - xine and gstreamer updates for Restricted Formats play (i think you need play mp3?
[04:26] <Tokenizer> anyone could help me?? i posted the question above.. here it is again:  I install Acitvestate Komodo 3.5 in /usr/local/Komodo_3.5 ...... i run it .. no problem here, i work with it, and do my thing, and exist the program, by File>Quit or pressing that [x]  on right top corner,, then i try to run the program, it says file not found....... i go to /usr/local/Komodo_3.5 and i see that it's empty ...... where did it all go????
[04:26] <bullraiser> Kamping_Kaiser: I got the screen prompting to select the desired resolution. The default selection is 1024x768. But, how could i change to other values, i mean, either by selecting that value and hitting enter or how?
[04:26] <kreek> yes BeowulfGrendel  they are installed
[04:27] <gilbert_> what is the proper installation of hoary? i insert the cd then i type linux then i hit enter it says that hit enter make a default system
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> bullraiser: press the arrow keys up or down, and use spacebar to select
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> then tab and hit enter on ok
[04:27] <bullraiser> ahhh.....
[04:27] <kreek> but there is an glib1.2 package
[04:27] <kreek> should i maybe remove it ? oO
[04:27] <bobc> cycom: I disconnect my sata drives and it booted
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> gilbert_: don't bother typing Linux, just put the cd in and press enter
[04:27] <bullraiser> Kamping_Kaiser: I tired all options except spacebar. :-o
[04:28] <corpsefeeder> i don't know what sudo sh jre-1_5_0_05-linux-1586.bin does, but it seemed to install sun java. But still java does not work. this is way too complicated.
[04:28] <cycom> bobc: just the drives, not the controller?
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[04:28] <bullraiser> Thanks mate.
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> no worries
[04:28] <cycom> bobc: I'm not to familiar with sata...
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. 2 minutes untill daylight savings
[04:28] <dabaR> corpsefeeder: yes, I agree you took the hard way.
[04:28] <bobc> cycom: the controller is on the motherboard - I just disconnected the cables
[04:28] <corpsefeeder> what is the easy way?
[04:28] <BeowulfGrendel> kreek - AFAIK that shouldn't matter
[04:28] <dabaR> sudo dpkg -i installs .deb files, corpsefeeder .
[04:28] <bobc> cycom: this all started when I added sata_nv to the modules list
[04:28] <kreek> hmm okay ... what should i do ? :| its very important to get it workin
[04:29] <BeowulfGrendel> kreek there should be a log file generated by the ./configure which may say exactly what it couldn't find
[04:29] <gilbert_> why i cant play video file in totem movie player is their any plug-ins
[04:29] <corpsefeeder> what is deb files? where to I get java install deb files?
[04:29] <bobc> cycom: it booted great like that once, but wouldn't boot at all the second time
[04:29] <dabaR> corpsefeeder: do you know how to read private messages people send you?
[04:29] <gilbert_> like ordenary cd's
[04:30] <corpsefeeder> yeah I just saw it thanks
[04:30] <kreek> #define HAVE_INTTYPES_H 1
[04:30] <kreek> #define HAVE_STDINT_H 1
[04:30] <kreek> #define HAVE_UNISTD_H 1
[04:30] <kreek> #define HAVE_DLFCN_H 1
[04:30] <kreek> configure: exit 1
[04:30] <kreek> that are the last lines BeowulfGrendel
[04:30] <BeGu> Does anyone know is it possible to minimize x-chat to tray icon?
[04:31] <gilbert_> kamping thank; its cleared to me
[04:31] <BeGu> Like I have firestarter in that upper right corner
[04:31] <kreek> of the config.log
[04:31] <nihil_> how can i mount an hd?
[04:32] <cycom> bobc: I dunno enough about sata to troubleshoot that
[04:32] <fredforfaen> BeGu check the repos , it should be something like xchat guifications
[04:32] <dabaR> nihil_: what is on it?
[04:32] <gilbert_> why i cant play video file in totem movie player is their any plug-ins, any idea
[04:32] <fredforfaen> but im not sure BeGu
[04:32] <dabaR> dont tell me this file that file, what file system.
[04:32] <bobc> cycom: sata_nv works fine once it's booted, so I think it must the order
[04:33] <ugo> hi guys
[04:34] <ugo> i have this problem with gstreamer
[04:34] <ugo> it doesnt seem to play any wmv files
[04:34] <ugo> and i have all the plugins installed
[04:35] <Jhair> ugo: use mplayer instead
[04:35] <bobc> cycom: that was it. sata_nv was listed before nvidia in the modules list. moved it and it works now
[04:35] <cycom> bobc: I'd agree with that, given what little I know.
[04:35] <coz> hello all I just download a gdm theme and don't know how to install it andy suggestions?
[04:35] <kreek> BeowulfGrendel, help me man :D
[04:35] <cycom> bobc: good job! I was useless :)
[04:35] <bobc> cycom: thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.
[04:36] <cycom> bobc: np.
[04:36] <bobc> cycom: just talking it through can get you out of a loop!
[04:36] <cycom> bobc: how true :)
[04:36] <gilbert_> why i cant play video file in totem movie player is their any plug-ins, any idea
[04:36] <Nei> hi
[04:37] <ugo> is there a way to integrate it wiith firefox?
[04:37] <Nei> I was wondering what I'll be missing when I use cd image rather than dvd?
[04:37] <Jhair> ugo: mplayer? sure.
[04:37] <ugo> right...is there a link to the process?
[04:39] <Jhair> ugo: you need to install the mozilla-mplayer package, that's it.
[04:39] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[04:39] <ubotu> :)
[04:39] <Stormx2> !repos
[04:39] <kreek> I got a Problem, if i want to ./configure atk-1.0.3 there comes this error:
[04:39] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[04:39] <kreek> configure: error:
[04:39] <kreek> *** GLIB 2.0.0 or better is required. The latest version of
[04:39] <kreek> *** GLIB is always available from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/.
[04:40] <Stormx2> Don't paste in here
[04:40] <Nei> install glib first :)?
[04:40] <Stormx2> ^_^
[04:40] <kreek> it is installed dude
[04:40] <kreek> ;D
[04:40] <kreek> synapse told me that all glib packets are installed
[04:40] <kreek> but atk didnt find 'em
[04:40] <gilbert_> repositories
[04:40] <Nei> the -dev ones as well?
[04:41] <kreek> ya Nei
[04:41] <ugo> will it interfere with the gstreamer mozilla plugin that already seems installed
[04:41] <briander43> 'lo all. I can't seem to get email to work. I just install Hoary and I've tried setting up Evolution and Mozilla Thunderbird with no success. I trying to set up either my  regular pop email or my gmail account.
[04:41] <ugo> ?
[04:41] <ugo> for gstreamer?
[04:41] <kreek> thats the fu**in problem
[04:41] <caonex_> anybody with an ati with fglrx here?
[04:41] <Jhair> ugo: I am not sure, IMHO gstreamer-* and totem is crap and uninstalled that from my system so I got no issues with them :)
[04:41] <Bilskinir> grrr can anyone help me with getting the plugins for mp3s?
[04:42] <cliebow>  /channels
[04:43] <Flokie> hallo
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> Moo
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:44] <dabaR> briander43: why are you not able to set up an email client with your email. DO you have the proper settings from the email provider at hand?
[04:44] <dseomn> when a bug marked UPST has been fixed upstream, should it be changed to NEW?
[04:44] <Bilskinir> lol ive tried the instructions ubotu !
[04:44] <dabaR> Bilskinir: mp3 is known to work with those instructions. Go try again.
[04:45] <DrBonesMcCoy> damnit Jim! why does nothing download properly with firefox on the ubuntu live CD. I have to reboot to windows everytime I want to download anything. that's just stupid.
[04:45] <briander43> dabaR: Don't know why I can't get it to setup. I have it setup exactly like I have it on my WinXP box.
[04:45] <kreek> Nei
[04:45] <briander43> dbaR: and yes, I have the info handy for my regular pop account
[04:45] <kreek> Can u help me ? :)
[04:45] <Bilskinir> dabaR, for some reason, it wont find the package totem-xine gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[04:45] <dabaR> briander43: then it should work. Check the settings again.
[04:46] <dabaR> Bilskinir: what are you installing totem-xine for, if you want mp3 support?
[04:46] <Bilskinir> dabaR, im just reading the instructions..
[04:46] <dabaR> Bilskinir: I bet you never added the appropriate repos.
[04:46] <DrBonesMcCoy> is there anyway to make firefox download anything without failing?
[04:46] <Bilskinir> dabaR, i did
[04:46] <dabaR> DrBonesMcCoy: firefox can not be the cause. are you on wireless?
[04:46] <gilbert_> i have parition my 40 gigs in 20/20 20 for XP and 20 for ubuntu : usually i used ubuntu, i ask something how can i browse my jpeg files in xp when i used my ubuntu is their any idea regarding this
[04:46] <briander43> dabaR: I've done that about a kazillian times. Let me try one last time...
[04:47] <dabaR> pastebin the settings, and information about your issue, I bet you are trying wrong ports. Do you get any errors, briander43 ?
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> gilbert_,  theres a ext2/3 file system add on for XP tat will let it read/write the linux partitions.
[04:48] <DrBonesMcCoy> i'm not on wireless.. the download gets all the way to 100% completed but never actually ends. it still just says cancel/pause in the downloads window
[04:48] <kreek> gilbert
[04:48] <kreek> explorer2fs
[04:48] <kreek> or smth. else
[04:48] <briander43> dabaR: no, no errors... hang one sec
[04:48] <DrBonesMcCoy> it simply won't finish the download and the file never appears on the hard drive.
[04:48] <Nei> can someone tell me what's missing in the cd that is in the dvd of ubuntu?
[04:48] <flixor> is there anybody who could help me whit a problem
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> gilbert_,   you can also mount your ntfs partition  under linux read only.
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[04:49] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:49] <jonny> hey, Im hving some resolution problems
[04:49] <jonny> having*
[04:49] <kreek> CAN NOBODY HELP ME ? FSCK
[04:49] <kreek> :(
[04:49] <AzMoo> G'day. I'm having a problem with Firefox 1.0.7 crashing. I was wondering if anybody else can replicate it? http://adelaide.citysearch.com.au/feature/33/ - If you click on one of the shows it'll show a popup. Close that, click on another one, and it'll crash :\
[04:49] <Nail_Bunny> how do i get w32codecs, i tried apt-get install w32codecs, and synpatic (looking for it) I have all repos activated, why can't i get it
[04:50] <morale> kreek, whats wrong?
[04:50] <jonny> I need help
[04:50] <kreek> I got a Problem, if i want to ./configure atk-1.0.3 there comes this error:
[04:50] <Bilskinir> Nail_Bunny, you trying to get mp3 support to work?
[04:50] <kreek> configure: error:
[04:50] <kreek> *** GLIB 2.0.0 or better is required. The latest version of
[04:50] <kreek> *** GLIB is always available from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/.
[04:50] <Nail_Bunny> no
[04:50] <Subliminal> AzMoo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:50] <dabaR> kreek: stop being annoying.
[04:50] <Nail_Bunny> Bilskinir wmv
[04:50] <kreek> but synapse told me that they are installed
[04:50] <morale> kreek, install glib then.. all gnome components depend on hundreds of things..
[04:50] <kreek> the dev & normal libs
[04:51] <dereks> using avahi, how do i enable ssh discovery?
[04:51] <kreek> i did
[04:51] <Bilskinir> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:51] <kreek> thats the problem ...
[04:51] <kreek> :/
[04:51] <briander43> dabaR: pop.bestfilfamily.com port 110; smtp.bestfilfamily.com port: 25. These are the setting I'm using on my WinXP box.
[04:51] <Bilskinir> im lost when it expects me to grab gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[04:51] <morale> kreek, is glib2-config in your $PATH?
[04:51] <jonny> I need some help with resolution
[04:51] <kreek> root@r00tbox:/home/ky/atk-1.0.3 # locate glib2-config
[04:51] <kreek> root@r00tbox:/home/ky/atk-1.0.3 #
[04:52] <morale> there you go.
[04:52] <jmanns> hello everybody?
[04:52] <Nail_Bunny> Bilskinir thanks for the link, I forgot what it was
[04:52] <highvoltage> hello jmanns
[04:52] <kreek> root@r00tbox:/home/ky/atk-1.0.3 # locate glib-config
[04:52] <kreek> /home/ky/pkgconfig-0.17.2/glib-1.2.8/docs/glib-config.1.in
[04:52] <kreek> /home/ky/pkgconfig-0.17.2/glib-1.2.8/docs/glib-config.1
[04:52] <kreek> /home/ky/pkgconfig-0.17.2/glib-1.2.8/glib-config.in
[04:52] <kreek> /home/ky/pkgconfig-0.17.2/glib-1.2.8/glib-config
[04:52] <DrBonesMcCoy> i give up. this thing dont work. i can't download s#@t
[04:52] <dabaR> kreek: stop pasting  to the room.
[04:52] <kreek> i dont understand it :(
[04:52] <kreek> ok sorry
[04:53] <Tokenizer> what does it mean if i get "no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[04:53] <Tokenizer> " when i do "./configure" or "sh -x ./configure"
[04:53] <[Spooky] > DrBonesMcCoy: whats s#@t ?
[04:53] <mirak> hi
[04:53] <mirak> what is the next ubuntu version ?
[04:53] <mirak> the name
[04:53] <gilbert_> dr willis
[04:53] <DrBonesMcCoy> it's whatever your imagination wants it to be
[04:53] <mirak> DrBonesMcCoy: it's stuck to breezy ?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> gilbert_,  ?
[04:53] <mirak> there is no update ?
[04:53] <gilbert_> can u help how get it thru i mean correct step to that
[04:54] <gilbert_> steps to mount
[04:54] <DrBonesMcCoy> is what stuck to who?
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> gilbert_,  read the !ntfs faq/docs/info
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[04:54] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:54] <kreek> thanks for help
[04:54] <kreek> :(
[04:54] <Tokenizer> anyone??? what does it mean if i get no CC found in Path if i have GCC compiler installed?
[04:54] <DrBonesMcCoy> who's stuck to breezy? and why?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Stuck ?
[04:55] <gilbert_> dr willis what exactly the site
[04:55] <jonny> resolution x1024 works fine in GNOME, but not in KDE! Is anyone familliar with this?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> gilbert_,  type "  !ntfs "  ive shown you it - twice now.
[04:55] <jmanns> has anyone here has success with the latest version of ubuntu and cross office 5.0?
[04:55] <psycode> how can i check how much space is left on a device from the shell?
[04:56] <ftugrul> hello, are there any guides to install latest binary ati drivers on ubuntu? thanks.
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[04:56] <ubotu> well, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:56] <jonny> anyone?
[04:56] <hedonick> psycode: try 'df -h'
[04:57] <gilbert_> !ntfs
[04:57] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:57] <ftugrul> thank you Dr_Willis :)
[04:57] <psycode> hedonick, thanks :)
[04:57] <sally_> I have some large files (650mb) on a windows partition that aren't being picked up by updatedb.  locate reports the existence of smaller files on the windows partition but not the larger ones.  Has anyone seen this or know how    to  fix  it?
[04:57] <jonny> UGHH!
[04:58] <AzMoo> Subliminal, cheers :)
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> jonny,  have you changed the res in eithe rdesktop with the kde or gnome panel tools?
[04:58] <jmanns> i have also lost access to both of my cdroms.  how can i get permission back?  i try to open kscd in kde and the program fails.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> jonny,  what exactly is Not working in KDE with it?
[04:59] <jonny> Dr_Willis: It is too big for my 17-inch monitor in KDE, but not in GNOME
[04:59] <dackz> hello, am new in ubuntu. i successfully install but i cannot proceed bec of some login problem
[04:59] <Myrtti> some login problem
[05:00] <_jason> dackz:  more specific?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> jonny,  define 'big'  - fonts too big? (ie res is LOW?) or res to high - its not showing?
[05:00] <Myrtti> that's amazingly precise problem analysis
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> bbl.
[05:00] <Myrtti> congrats on the achievment
[05:00] <Nige> hello
[05:00] <jonny> Dr_Willis, you cannot see the whole screen
[05:00] <Nige> anyone know how to get breezy to use the ati drivers rather than the mesa drivers?
[05:00] <jmanns> i really need to get access to my cdroms again so that i can get some work done.  can someone please help me?
[05:01] <jonny> Dr_Willis: that would be too high-I geuss
[05:01] <Maikeru> hi
[05:02] <gilbert_> Dr_willis very cool yes i done mounting an it works succesfully i can browse all those files withinmy 20 gigs thanks
[05:02] <Maikeru> I just plugged in a new sound card, will Ubuntu automatically recognize it?
[05:02] <gilbert_> i appreciate u much
[05:02] <eSPete> does the notail parameter for a raiserfs got any affect on the free space show by df and nautilus
[05:02] <Maikeru> now I have 2 of them (one is built into the mobo or something, the other is PCI)
[05:03] <bob2> Maikeru: sure
[05:03] <bob2> Maikeru: you'll need to manually tell it which yto use, tho
[05:03] <xzz> What do you reccomend for a Turion 64 laptop with a Ati Radeon X200 ....
[05:03] <bob2> eSPete: I'd think so (for df, anyway, who knows what nautilus does)
[05:03] <Maikeru> how do I do that (using xfce4)
[05:03] <xzz> 64 or 32 bit?
[05:04] <bob2> xzz: do you care about binary-only junk at all?
[05:04] <xzz> bob2: What do you mean?
[05:04] <bob2> Maikeru: disabling the onboard one in the bios i s the simplest option
[05:04] <bob2> xzz: what I said
[05:04] <bob2> xzz: do you care about windows dlls? using wine? proprietary applications?
[05:04] <Maikeru> I don't think I can do that
[05:04] <Maikeru> never saw an option
[05:04] <Maikeru> but okay
[05:04] <bob2> go have a careful look
[05:05] <FireCat> xzz: 32 bit, there are problems with usb keyboards and mouse in 64, and also with sata dvd's if you have any of them
[05:05] <jonny> Dr_Willis, you cannot see the whole screen
[05:05] <bob2> wtf
[05:05] <xzz> bob2, FireCat I want to play dvd's on it ...
[05:05] <bob2> xzz: that's fine
[05:05] <bob2> FireCat: the amd64 port really has usb issues? did you file a bug?
[05:05] <FireCat> bob2: No
[05:06] <xzz> But I get very poor framerate on fgl_gears with the fglrx-driver ...
[05:06] <bob2> that doesn't matter
[05:06] <bob2> do your actual 3d applications work ok?
[05:06] <FireCat> bob2: My hardware is so new that getting anything to run on it at all was a bit of a challenge
[05:07] <bob2> FireCat: you really should have filed a bug
[05:07] <xzz> (32 bit) And KDE runs extremely fast - I mean - after I have started KDE, I only touch a button 50 msec, and it repeats itself 5 times ...
[05:07] <FireCat> bob2: Whenever I file a bug I usually get humiliated by developers, so I stopped doing it
[05:08] <bob2> FireCat: for example?
[05:08] <jonny> anyone?
[05:08] <dabaR> !beg
[05:08] <ubotu> dabaR: Syntax error in line 1
[05:08] <xzz> bob2, FireCat So you reccomend 32 bit?
[05:08] <ugo> so why does mplayer crash while playing some videos
[05:09] <bob2> xzz: only if you want to run binary-only 32-bit applications
[05:09] <FireCat> For instance waiting two months or so to respond, and asking why I'm not running the package that was released last month.
[05:09] <bob2> ugo: look at the bottom of the output
[05:09] <Jhair> ugo: you should file a bug if you got a problem like that, mplayer isn't perfect
[05:09] <bob2> FireCat: by "example", I meant "url".
[05:10] <xzz> bob2: I may use cxoffice some times ..
[05:10] <FireCat> I gave up long ago, i doubt that there are any left out there
[05:10] <dabaR> bob2: why will ubotu not learn a factoid with the name beg?
[05:10] <FireCat> bob2: Not Ubuntu developers btw
[05:10] <bob2> xzz: then the i386 port will be simpler to use
[05:10] <Tokenizer> anyone can help with this??? http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=51468
[05:10] <dabaR> [09:56] CWC-DanB[66298] 9725625448
[05:11] <bob2> !beg is Come on, we're all adults.  Just ask politely and wait for someone to answer.
[05:11] <ubotu> ...but beg is already something else...
[05:11] <jonny> so... x1024 works fine in GNOME, but not in KDE, does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:11] <xzz> bob2: But why does it run like I'm running old dos games made for 80486 on a PIII?
[05:11] <Stormx2> Tokenizer: Try using sudo
[05:11] <bob2> jonny: when asking about things from outside Ubuntu, it's useful to mention what a particular bit of software is
[05:11] <balrog-kun> hi, after dist-upgrade all programs lost locales support and non-english fonts aren't displayed correctly, what can be the problem?
[05:12] <bob2> jonny: or were you trying to ask for help setting your resolution?
[05:12] <Tokenizer> omg
[05:12] <Tokenizer> sorry
[05:12] <Tokenizer> need coffee
[05:12] <bob2> balrog-kun: fix /etc/environment
[05:12] <Tokenizer> good catch
[05:12] <Stormx2> ^_^
[05:12] <jonny> bob2: im trying to use xfce, I think thats what its called anyway, but I cant find a good resolution, can you help me?
[05:13] <balrog-kun> bob2: the locale is set in /etc/environment, i checked it, but for example gnome-terminal shows something like C library doesn't support locale, falling back to C locale.
[05:13] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > Hi people...
[05:13] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > I'm new here
[05:13] <bob2> balrog-kun: what does "locale" print? (#flood, not here)
[05:14] <bob2> jonny: the resolution was fine in GNOME?
[05:14] <balrog-kun> bob2: it prints what it always printed, the problems is with the binary of libc it seems
[05:14] <jonny> bob2: yessir
[05:14] <bob2> jonny: did you play with any gnome resolution options?
[05:14] <balrog-kun> bob2: "locale" just prints everything set to "pl_PL" as it should be, i cannot copy&paste at the moment
[05:14] <mcoon> yone on?
[05:14] <bob2> balrog-kun: try 'sudo locale-gen'
[05:15] <bob2> mcoon: /names
[05:15] <balrog-kun> bob2: ok
[05:15] <mcoon> hello
[05:15] <mcoon> first time on IRC
[05:15] <jonny> bob2: no, but the resolutions fine in GNOME, but not in KDE
[05:15] <mcoon> just installed today
[05:15] <mcoon> having trouble with files
[05:16] <jonny> mcoon: what problems?
[05:16] <mcoon> I backed up some files to CD, and have brought them back to the hard drive
[05:17] <mcoon> but now can't delete them
[05:17] <mcoon> system says I don't have permission
[05:17] <jonny> mcoon: drag to recycle bin then right click--->emty trash can
[05:17] <mcoon> I am a home user, not on a network, and I am the olny user
[05:18] <mcoon> If I don't have permission, who does?  :)
[05:18] <zaguar> i get a message, connection refused, when i try to SSH into
[05:18] <jonny> did you try what I said, mcoon?
[05:18] <mcoon> I've got them into the trash but can't delete them from there
[05:18] <zaguar> another ubuntu computer
[05:19] <bob2> mcoon: did you "delete" them as root?
[05:19] <bob2> zaguar: is the other machine running the ssh server?
[05:19] <mcoon> ?? not sure,
[05:19] <jonny> bob2: any solutions?
[05:19] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > what is the bets windows emulator for Ubuntu 5.10?
[05:19] <TG__> could anyone tell me what include file packages i need to create applications? when i compile something with -l/usr/include/ i only get errors
[05:19] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > what is the best windows emulator for Ubuntu 5.10?
[05:20] <mcoon> all my files have little padlock thingys on the icons
[05:21] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > can anyone please tell me what is the best windows emulator for Ubuntu 5.10?
[05:21] <mcoon> I created a "My Documents folder on the desktop, and coppied all the files there
[05:21] <apokryphos> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : no need to ask more than one; if someone is able/willing to help, they will.
[05:21] <apokryphos> *once
[05:21] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > allright
[05:21] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > sorry
[05:21] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > i'm new here
[05:22] <mcoon> I can move the whole "My documents" folder to the trash.  but can't delete it or anything in it
[05:22] <johns^> mcoon: copied with sudo cp?
[05:23] <zaguar> yes
[05:23] <jonny> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : I like KDE, its easy, but did you have windows our OS 10 before?
[05:23] <mcoon> It's not a big deal, I'd just rather not fill up my HDD with files I don't need any more, and can't delete
[05:23] <bob2> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : wine is the only useful windows "emulator" for linux.
[05:23] <zaguar> I checked for firestarter and other firewalls, iptables etc, and it says connection refused
[05:23] <thrush> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : windows = xp ? I believe vmware has a free version now but that is not what u would want for games..
[05:23] <johns^> hm sudo rm -fr /home/'username'/Desktop/My\ Documents
[05:23] <bob2> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : appdb.codeweavers.com has compatibility listings.
[05:23] <zaguar> qemu?
[05:24] <ExpS4HM> hi guys
[05:24] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > well, guys...
[05:24] <Tokenizer> anyone knows why when I install a program and run it, and exist after i'm done, all the files in instllation directory get deleted??? the installation directory is /usr/local/my_program and it works only once
[05:24] <mcoon> jonny: not sure what that is...  I just did a copy and paste
[05:24] <bob2> zaguar: qemu emulates a computer, not windows.
[05:24] <bob2> zaguar: tho you can wine *in* qemu
[05:24] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > i've been using windows since long and i recently downloaded ubuntu
[05:24] <Tokenizer> s/exists/exit/
[05:24] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > so, this will be my first linux
[05:24] <bob2> Tokenizer: and the program is...
[05:24] <MenZa`> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : Same, good luck with it :)
[05:25] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > Thanks dude
[05:25] <Tokenizer> Activestate Komodo 3.5 (beta) .... but don't get stock on beta
[05:25] <bob2> zaguar: 'sudo netstat -plnt | grep 22' on the server shows it running?
[05:25] <zaguar> no
[05:25] <bob2> then it's not running
[05:25] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > so, is WineHQ good on gaming?
[05:25] <zaguar> but i can ssh to others from that comp
[05:25] <jonny> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N]  go for KDE do "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[05:25] <rohal> no matter what i install i am getting this error           apt-get install xmms
[05:25] <rohal> Reading package lists... Done  E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header
[05:25] <zaguar> but no in
[05:25] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > what's that jonny?
[05:26] <zaguar> not*
[05:26] <jonny> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : paste that in the terminal
[05:26] <bob2> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : that website has lists of programs and reports on how well they work in wine.
[05:26] <bob2> jonny: please don't d that
[05:26] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > well, i'm still with windows now
[05:26] <bob2> rohal: er, that error is pretty clear
[05:26] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > allright bob2
[05:26] <bob2> rohal: paste your /etc/apt/preferences file to #flood
[05:26] <Tokenizer> *pulic post: * ... and it works the first time i run Komodo.... i use it, and exit it..... i see that it clears the installation directory..... then i have to reinstall.. use once, and then same problem all over....
[05:27] <jonny> bob2: dont do what?
[05:27] <bob2> Tokenizer: this sounds like a problem with komodo...have you tried asking them?
[05:27] <rohal> bob2: that file is empty...i added a few entries ...which i have removed right now....
[05:27] <[devil-boy] > how can i add some more ils server to gnome meeting?
[05:27] <Ofe> Hey, would someone know why my downloadspeed has dropped to 0.9kb/s from 5.6kb/s? It was 0.9kbps when I installed Ubuntu, then was 5.6kbps for one connection and then dropped 0.9kbps again. Before that one 5.6kbps I did a pppconfig and deleted all but the new profile + I made software to control the speed instead of hardware. And now I don't remember where I did that hardware -> software change. :\
[05:27] <bob2> jonny: recommend pointless things to people without explaining what they do
[05:27] <Tokenizer> yah. they said it's a problem with your distro
[05:27] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > any website where i can get a full list of programs for ubuntu?
[05:27] <bob2> Tokenizer: they're lying
[05:27] <bob2> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : packages.ubuntu.com
[05:27] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > thanks bob2
[05:27] <bob2> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : note that the list is 15 000 items long, though
[05:27] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > wowwwwwwwwwww
[05:28] <Jhair> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : packages.ubuntu.com
[05:28] <jonny> bob2: I thought he was using ubuntu right now, he asked wich one was the best window manager!
[05:28] <Tokenizer> noone else has that problem....... if it's the case, then if someone else on Ubuntu tries to install it, then same should also happen to them
[05:28] <rohal>  /etc/apt/preferences    file is empty....i added a few entries ...which i have removed now....
[05:28] <thrush> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : pretty much anything u need u will find for ubuntu
[05:28] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > hey guys, you're all cool here
[05:28] <thrush> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : except transcode ::grumbles::
[05:28] <mcoon> First time user.  need help with file management.
[05:29] <bob2> jonny: then please read questions more carefully...
[05:29] <tziade__> where can i find a download source for a given package ?
[05:29] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > it's not like other irc channels, wher they only talk about sex, etc
[05:29] <bob2> rohal: delete the file
[05:29] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > it's really cool here
[05:29] <morale> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : a/s/l.
[05:29] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > i hope i can have new horizons here
[05:29] <jonny> bob2: what do you mean?
[05:29] <morale> haha
[05:29] <bob2> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : all FS technical channels are unlike that
[05:29] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > FS?
[05:29] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > 22 M Mauritius
[05:29] <rohal> bob2:k thanks
[05:29] <bob2> tziade__: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:29] <jonny> bob2: oh sorry
[05:29] <bob2> free software.
[05:29] <jonny> I c
[05:29] <tziade__> thx boabsta
[05:29] <morale> i was kidding :)
[05:29] <Tokenizer> bob2: just to make sure, if i do ./install.sh and it says installation successfull, and when i run the program ..... that basically means i'm not doing anything incorrectly1, correct?
[05:29] <tziade__> thx bob2
[05:30] <bob2> tziade__: or read /etc/apt/sources.list to find out how apt can do it
[05:30] <rohal> can anyone tell me what packages i need to install to get enlightenement up??
[05:30] <bob2> Tokenizer: that is completely program dependent, and I've never used komodo
[05:30] <morale> anyone ever get freenx working with ubuntu/debian?
[05:30] <bob2> rohal: apt-cache search enlightenment
[05:30] <UfaOgros> mcoon>> what do u want?
[05:31] <Stormx2> The #WineHQ channel seems pretty dead, can I ask a question about Wine on Ubuntu here?
[05:31] <AzMoo> Wow, I can't believe how much faster moz's firefox build is.
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> Stormx2, just ask ... if we don't wanna answer , we won't answer
[05:32] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > so, can i use WineHQ for games like Need For Speed?
[05:32] <buddy> anyone know why i cant get java to work i would like to play pogo games
[05:32] <morale> oo.. the coffee shop is finally open.
[05:32] <UfaOgros> mcoon ?
[05:32] <tziade__> bob2: can't find the given package on the site (wxpython2.6-0) but it seems to exists (E: Package wxpython2.6-0 has no installation candidate)
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] , some games can , some games can't .. or some games run poorly ... if you wanna play windows games , use windows ?
[05:33] <thrush> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : wine is kinda hit and miss.. very nice when it works but sometimes u just need to boot into windows for a game
[05:33] <mcoon> Can anyone help me with deleting some files?
[05:33] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > i don't like Windows anymore
[05:34] <dabaR> mcoon: it depends, just ask, and be specific.
[05:34] <mcoon> noone likes windows
[05:34] <Jhair> mcoon: use rm for that, and check if the permissions for the files are correct with the chmod command
[05:34] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > anyway, which emulator has got good ratings for overall windows based programs?
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] , no choice ... wine is not windows emulator
[05:34] <mcoon> Thanks dabaR:  I coppied some files from a CD, and now can't delete them
[05:34] <Jhair> mcoon: I mean with ls, and change them with chmod, if something fails
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] , none ... unless you use vmware
[05:34] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > vmware?
[05:35] <dabaR> mcoon: how is that, how are you trying to delete them, be specific.
[05:35] <jonny> how can you compile .tar.gz files?
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] , yah ... vmware ..
[05:35] <thrush> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] : vmware if u have the ram might work I believe they have a free player right now.  You can also run ubuntu in windows using vmware to try it out
[05:36] <mcoon> I created a "My documents' folder on the desktop, coppied, and pasted files from a CD there
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> jonny, you gotta tar -zxvf file.tar.gz and read README or INSTALL
[05:36] <anim> buddy, see http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-java
[05:36] <dabaR> jonny: .tar.gx is a archive of files, you unpack, and then compile what is in there. as wickedpuppy told you.
[05:36] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > what do you mean by "if i have the ram"? you mean lots of ram?
[05:36] <mcoon> the files apear with a little padlock thingy over them and the system says I don't have permission to delete them
[05:36] <tziade__> anyone knows how to handle this apt-get problem ? i get this error: (E: Package wxpython2.6-0 has no installation candidate)
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> [V] [A] [R] [U] [N] , vmware is a RAM monster ... lol .. pls read up on vmware.com ? :P or google for it
[05:37] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > ok
[05:37] <dabaR> mcoon: you are doing it through nautilus, I see. Well, right click on one file, and go to the permissions tab, and tell us who the owner, group and permissions are.
[05:37] <mattbbx> Lol quick, how do i get ping to stop
[05:37] <mcoon> debaR: I created a "My documents' folder on the desktop, coppied, and pasted files from a CD there
[05:37] <dabaR> ctrl+c
[05:37] <mattbbx> heh thanks
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> mattbbx, you send him SIGKILL signal ... ctrl+c
[05:37] <UfaOgros> mcoon u canot erase it because the permission
[05:38] <mcoon> debaR: the files apear with a little padlock thingy over them and the system says I don't have permission to delete them
[05:38] <dabaR> mcoon: that is a repeat, and I told you what to do.
[05:38] <mattbbx> wickedpuppy: Thanks, that helped, lol, I was like NOOO! Stop!
[05:38] <dabaR> bbl
[05:38] <k1m> hii :) i have just downloaded ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso how should o burn it ?
[05:38] <UfaOgros> mcoon right-click, reset the permissions
[05:38] <mcoon> sorry,  just a second
[05:38] <wickedpuppy> mattbbx, you can limit ping to stop at number of ping ... man ping
[05:38] <numb3r> <-- using ubuntu 64bit .. downloaded/installed jre1.5.0_05 .. "java -version" results with "command not found".  I've read multiple threads in the forums regarding having the PATH set correctly, but I'm quite new to linux/ubuntu, so a quick one-on-one walk through would be most helpful; I'm tired of going blind from reading posts/replies/ideas that do not work for my situation.
[05:39] <mattbbx> yeah, i forgot it wasnt like windows ping
[05:39] <mattbbx> Im a little new to linux
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> mattbbx, ping -c 10 ip .. i think this will ping for 10 counts
[05:39] <mattbbx> Yeah it should
[05:39] <mattbbx> Thanks wickedpuppy
[05:39] <k1m> hii :) i have just downloaded ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso how should o burn it ?
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> np np :P
[05:39] <tziade__> anyone knows how to handle this apt-get problem ? i get this error: (E: Package wxpython2.6-0 has no installation candidate)
[05:40] <UfaOgros> k1m what program do u use to burn cd?
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> klm... use ya burner ? burn as image
[05:40] <mcoon> debaR: it says file owner mcoon  that is me
[05:40] <k1m> UfaOgros nero 6
[05:40] <mattbbx> did Ubuntu come with make?
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> mattbbx, build-essential
[05:40] <mattbbx> or do I  need to apt get it
[05:40] <UfaOgros> k1m so, go file>>open>>ubuntu.iso
[05:40] <thrush> mattbbx: apt-get install build-essential
[05:40] <mattbbx> Oh ok t hanks
[05:40] <k1m> just burn it as a image and boot ?
[05:41] <k1m> to install ?
[05:41] <UfaOgros> k1m ya
[05:41] <mattbbx> You guys are awesome
[05:41] <UfaOgros> k1m yaya
[05:41] <wickedpuppy> klm yes ... btw its install iso .. not live iso ... you be installing :P
[05:41] <wickedpuppy> hope you done the back ups ..
[05:41] <k1m> ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64
[05:41] <k1m> it is install?
[05:41] <UfaOgros> k1m so its instal
[05:41] <wickedpuppy> it says so
[05:42] <k1m> i try
[05:42] <Ungy_> how do I make a boot disk?
[05:42] <MenZa`> k1m: You do have an AMD-64bit cpu right?
[05:42] <k1m> yeah :D
[05:42] <MenZa`> Good good
[05:42] <MenZa`> :P
[05:42] <martii> hello
[05:42] <martii> my ati radeon 8500 and fglrx drivers in breezy freeze my machine
[05:43] <martii> in fact just X are freezed
[05:43] <MenZa`> martii: drivers perhaps? not sure tbh
[05:43] <martii> MenZa`: drivers
[05:43] <martii> MenZa`: 8.16.20
[05:43] <martii> MenZa`: from ati
[05:43] <ubuntu> Can someone go to System > Preferences > Sound > Sound Events, scroll to the very bottom and tell me if victory.wav sounds like crap to them?
[05:43] <k1m> iam burning now :D
[05:43] <martii> MenZa`: but why they are still not upgraded to 8.18
[05:43] <Jhair> martii: do you have acceleration enabled (in your xorg.conf)?
[05:43] <Ungy_> I have a dual boot machine and I wanted to create a boot disk before I reinstall windows so I can get grub up and running once windows removes it
[05:44] <martii> Jhair: I do
[05:44] <Jhair> martii: does it work _without_ acceleration?
[05:44] <martii> Jhair: with driver ati it works
[05:44] <Someguy> Can anyone help me? How do I edit a windows boot.ini file in Linux?
[05:44] <martii> Jhair: i should try to remove load glx and dri
[05:44] <Jhair> martii: and with fglrx driver without acceleration? Have you tried that?
[05:45] <barrowcliffe> hi guys
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> Someguy, you got to mount that windows partition first ..
[05:45] <Ungy_> Someguy How do you think you would?
[05:45] <mattbbx> Someguy: Is it NTFS? I don't think you can if it is
[05:45] <barrowcliffe> can anyone help me with my small problem
[05:45] <Ungy_> mattbbx, correct
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> yah .. if its NTFS then don't bother ..
[05:45] <Someguy> Yes I can mount it, yes it is NTFS, but I can not edit it
[05:45] <Ungy_> Someguy, boot to windows
[05:45] <mattbbx> If you try it could damage the partition
[05:45] <Someguy> I cant, thats the problem
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> barrowcliffe, ask pls
[05:45] <Ungy_> Someguy, then get a ntfs boot disk
[05:45] <barrowcliffe> Totem keeps starting up with my linux box and its very anoying
[05:45] <mattbbx> Someguy: safe mode?
[05:46] <barrowcliffe> how do i stop totom from starting up with the computer
[05:46] <Foopub> System > Preferences > Sound > Sound Events, very bottom, victory.wav sound like crap to anyone else? It makes me think I am having audio problems, so can someone check?
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> ? totem start whenever you boot ubuntu ?
[05:46] <Under^Uni> hi..can any1 tell me how can i broadcast live from a webcam using Darwin streming server?
[05:46] <barrowcliffe> yea
[05:46] <Someguy> its not listed on my options, i can choose in recovery for linux, regular linux, or windows xp home which just sits there doing nothing
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> thats new to me ...
[05:46] <barrowcliffe> when i log in its the first thing that starts up
[05:47] <ompaul> barrowcliffe, by any chance do you have save session set?
[05:47] <Ungy_> Someguy try selecting windows xp home and then when it starts to load hit f8
[05:47] <mattbbx> Someguy: maybe www.bootdisk.com can help
[05:47] <barrowcliffe> it only does it in my account and not the others
[05:47] <Ungy_> Someguy that will get you to the windows boot menu or shoudl
[05:47] <mattbbx> It worked for me
[05:47] <ompaul> barrowcliffe, and by any chance do you leave on when logging out?
[05:47] <Someguy> Thanks I will play around a little with it
[05:47] <barrowcliffe> save session i dont know, iv converted my uncle from Windows to Ubuntu
[05:47] <martii> Jhair: the problem is that I use dual head display
[05:47] <mattbbx> It doesn't like it if you hold f8
[05:47] <martii> Jhair: maybe that's the problem
[05:47] <mattbbx> Repeatedly press it if you can
[05:48] <jeremy913226> hey everyone
[05:48] <Foopub> jeremy913226: Hey, can you do me a favor?
[05:48] <barrowcliffe> no i dont leave it on when i log out
[05:48] <jeremy913226> foopub: yes?
[05:48] <Foopub> jeremy913226: System > Preferences > Sound > Sound Events, very bottom, victory.wav. Does it sound horrible to you?
[05:49] <jeremy913226> Sorry, i'm running over vnc on a headless machine - no sound :/
[05:49] <Ungy_> FooPub it sounds like really distorted echo clapping
[05:50] <jeremy913226> ..can anyone recommend a nice ftp _server_ for ubuntu?
[05:50] <Foopub> Ungy_: It makes my speakers "crackle"
[05:50] <k1m> iam will be new at ubuntu soon :D is there any msn program ? any IRC client ?
[05:50] <Gorgapor> hey guys i have a question, everytime i log in, GnomeMeeting starts, but it isn't in my Startup Programs. wtf?
[05:50] <Ungy_> jeremy913226, proftp?
[05:50] <Foopub> With two different sound cards.
[05:50] <Ofe> Foopub : it sounds horrible
[05:50] <Ungy_> Foopub, mine as well
[05:50] <jeremy913226> ungy: ta
[05:50] <Foopub> Ugggg
[05:50] <Ungy_> klm gaim
[05:50] <Foopub> Relief + Frustration :)
[05:50] <ompaul> wickedpuppy,  pity he went the next line read >system - preferences - sessions< there is a startup tab there, check that for it
[05:51] <jeremy913226> ... ungy: is that in synaptic?
[05:51] <Ungy_> klm apt-get install gaim
[05:51] <Gorgapor> Mods: cemile_ is porn spamming me
[05:51] <k1m> okey ;D
[05:51] <Ungy_> jeremy913226, everythign is in synaptic ;-)
[05:51] <jeremy913226> (i'm a total n00b - I have.. problems installing programs, which I'll attempt to address later - right now I just need a FTP server
[05:51] <Ungy_> jeremy913226, if it is available an dyou have the sources for it it will be in synaptic
[05:51] <[V] [A] [R] [U] [N] > Bubye Folks... See you next time!
[05:51] <Foopub> So what's better to use... OSS and ALSA?
[05:52] <ompaul> Gorgapor, are you a registered user and are you in some other channel?
[05:52] <Ungy_> Foopub, I use ALSA on Debian and Ubuntu
[05:52] <erUSUL> Foopub, alsa
[05:52] <dabaR> jeremy913226: well, install it. sudo aptitude install proftpd, or find it in synaptic and install it.
[05:52] <Gorgapor> ompaul, sorry i didn't realize cemile_ wasn't in this room. yeah i'm registered, no i'm not in another room
[05:52] <dabaR> jeremy913226: ftp servers do not encrypt anything, so your password is sent in plain text, btw.
[05:52] <burepe> I got an extra harddrive in my machine and I changed all the permissions so anybody can rwx, but when I try to delet files with the gui. it says no. Any ideas?
[05:53] <Gorgapor> burepe, there are permissions in the fstab as well
[05:53] <dabaR> burepe: what file system is it?
[05:53] <Ungy_> jeremy913226, the package is called proftpd
[05:53] <jeremy913226> i'm not too fussed
[05:53] <burepe> fat32
[05:53] <burepe> oh
[05:53] <bob2> burepe: then setting permissions won't work
[05:53] <bob2> burepe: add umask=000 to the options field in /etc/fstab
[05:53] <jeremy913226> ungy: thanks, i'll have a go now
[05:54] <burepe> thanks!
[05:54] <|Beavis|> Gorgapor: I heard of something called sftp before, I think thats secue, Although i'm not sure if its real
[05:54] <jeremy913226> Ungy: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:54] <jeremy913226> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:54] <burepe> can I delete files from another comp over the network with that?
[05:54] <ompaul> Gorgapor, using xchat?
[05:54] <kbrooks> |Beavis|: It exists.
[05:54] <dabaR> jeremy913226: do not paste here. close synaptic to be able to run that command.
[05:54] <Ungy_> jeremy913226, do you have synaptic open?
[05:54] <thrush> jeremy913226: depending on what u want to do u could just install openssh-server and user sftp more secure..
[05:55] <jeremy913226> ungy: no
[05:55] <dabaR> jeremy913226: yes, you do.
[05:55] <erUSUL> jeremy913226, you haveother program accessing apt db
[05:55] <Ungy_> do a sudo apt-get install proftpd
[05:55] <bob2> jeremy913226: or you didn't shut down cleanly last time
[05:55] <rocapal> I have problems to configurate the panoramic resolution, I've VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics and in the xorg's logs appear    II) I810(0): Not using mode "1280x768" (no mode of this nam
[05:55] <jeremy913226> oops, excuse me. yes i do
[05:55] <Under^Uni> hi..can any1 tell me how can i broadcast live from a webcam using Darwin streming server?
[05:55] <bob2> burepe: depends how you configure whatever is sharing the directory
[05:56] <zetor> hi you all!
[05:56] <mdke> is there any way to specific a specific editor when doing "crontab -e"?
[05:56] <judge> Hello, can anyone help me with a GRUB probelm i'm having
[05:56] <dabaR> jeremy913226: we knew anyhow...
[05:56] <dabaR> :)
[05:56] <jeremy913226> :p
[05:56] <thrush> judge: what sorta problem ;)
[05:56] <erUSUL> !tell rocapal about fixresolution
[05:57] <Ungy_> ok I give up wish me luck I have to reinstall windows and I can't figure out how to make a boot floppy so I will just hope I can recover with the cd
[05:57] <Jhair> mdke: does set the EDITOR environment variable help (cron has the -e option too)
[05:57] <ompaul> mdke, it is the exported editor, unless you had a script that made another editor your prefered one for the duration
[05:57] <bob2> mdke: update-alternatives --config editor
[05:57] <judge> thrush: well basically grub doesnt recogonise the root file system, when booting of the mbr, but it works fine from a floppy
[05:57] <rocapal> erUSUL, ubutu take me the 1024x768 resolution
[05:57] <erUSUL> !tell rocapal about resolution
[05:57] <Jhair> mdke: I mean, crontab has the -e option
[05:58] <thrush> judge: have u gone back through after ubuntu is up and redone grub setup?
[05:58] <mdke> bob2, i don't have the command update-alternatives
[05:58] <mdke> ompaul, it's not my exported editor! :/
[05:58] <ompaul> ohh
[05:58] <mdke> oh hang on
[05:58] <ompaul> mdke, that ain't funny
[05:59] <mdke> ompaul, sorry my bad, what do I export to specify my editor?
[05:59] <bob2> !+find bin/update-alternatives
[05:59] <judge> thrush: after booting from floppy, i then ran grub-install /dev/hdb (hdb is my linux drive)
[05:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'bin/update-alternatives' (1 shown): (/usr/sbin/update-alternatives) in base/dpkg.
[05:59] <rocapal> !tell rocapal about resolution
[06:00] <mdke> bob2, thanks, gottit
[06:00] <mdke> argh
[06:00] <mdke> bob2, actually, seems that needs root
[06:00] <burepe> bob2, I am still having a problem. can I show you my fstab line? maybe it is wron
[06:00] <xophEr> is there a way to block an applications access to the internet via firestarter? if so, how? tia.
[06:00] <bob2> burepe: yes
[06:00] <bob2> xophEr: no
[06:01] <jeremy913226> .. anything I attempt through apt-get returns this: "E: Couldn't find package xxxxxxx"
[06:01] <burepe> /dev/hdb1       /media/120baby  auto    defaults,umask=000        0       2
[06:01] <xophEr> bob2, is there another way of doing this
[06:01] <bob2> xophEr: not unless it can use the uid module
[06:01] <bob2> xophEr: what are you trying to achieve?
[06:01] <bob2> jeremy913226: that's not useful unless you provide us with examples
[06:01] <mdke> ompaul, still here?
[06:01] <bob2> burepe: that's fine
[06:01] <ompaul> mdke, yeap trying to remember :-/
[06:01] <mdke> what do I need to do to set my editor env?
[06:01] <burepe> whats my problem then?
[06:01] <mdke> i tried "editor" :)
[06:01] <jonny> iv got some definet resolution problems in enything but GNOME!
[06:02] <burepe> can't delete from the gui
[06:02] <xophEr> trying to block a programs access to the internet, as I already stated.. but nevermind.
[06:02] <dabaR> mount -a I think, burepe
[06:02] <thrush> judge: no expert I can only tell u what I usually do.. type grub at termial then when grub> type 'root(hdb0)' or whatever part# is, then 'setup(hdb)' other than that its always been a prob with menu.lst for me
[06:02] <burepe> dabaR, what do you mean?
[06:02] <mdke> ompaul, after doing "export EDITOR=nano" i get "crontab: "nano" exited with status 1" when doing crontab -e
[06:02] <dabaR> burepe: you need to remount it maybe, now that you have new options.
[06:03] <burepe> i ended the session wouldn't that do it?
[06:03] <mdke> bob2, do you know how to do it user-wide, rather than system-wide?
[06:03] <Ofe> Synaptic Package Manager lacks "pause"-button. I'm having difficulties surfing the forums while synaptic is downloading stuff. :\
[06:03] <bob2> mdke: set $EDITOR
[06:03] <bob2> burepe: uh, you did unmount and remount it after editing fstab, right?
[06:04] <bob2> xophEr: no, what program, and why?
[06:04] <ompaul> mdke,   export EDITOR=vi ; crontab -e worked on this breezy
[06:04] <mdke> bob2, that didn't help
[06:04] <burepe> no
[06:04] <Foopub> In the RestrictedFormats wiki entry, in the MP3-related section, it says to apt-get gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse, but the package isn't available, apparantly.
[06:04] <ompaul> mdke, I had been using nano
[06:04] <Foopub> gstreamer0.8-plugins is
[06:04] <mdke> ompaul, hmm, i need to get away from vi :)
[06:04] <judge> thrush: i have tried that but it keeps telling me its not recognised. Thanks anyway. Curiously it doesnt seem to generate a grub.conf file. is this usual in ubuntu
[06:04] <mdke> ompaul, you have access to smurfix's server? that is the server I'm trying on
[06:05] <ompaul> mdke, there is something else I can point out
[06:05] <ompaul> I have moved back
[06:05] <ompaul> to nano  no problem
[06:05] <jonny> iv got some definet resolution problems in enything but GNOME!
[06:05] <mdke> :(
[06:05] <mdke> i'd better learn vi then
[06:06] <bob2> Foopub: that means you haven't configured /etc/apt/sources.list to access multiverse
[06:06] <ompaul> mdke, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:06] <bob2> fonsken: read the AddingRepositoriesHowto wiki page
[06:06] <dabaR> hehe
[06:07] <sockpuppe1> would someone be kind enough to help me run my own email server with squirrelmail?
[06:07] <bob2> you need to be more specific
[06:08] <burepe> bob2, dabaR  I did the mount -a command before I unmounted, now when I try to unmout it says device busy, any suggestions?
[06:08] <sockpuppe1> how can I do this?
[06:08] <defcon8> sockpuppe1, its docs can
[06:08] <sockpuppe1> do I need a static ip?
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> sockpuppe1, pls read the documents or the website ?
[06:09] <sockpuppe1> unbelieveable
[06:09] <wickedpuppy> heh
[06:09] <wickedpuppy> he came into #ubuntu to ask a squirrelmail question .. unbelievable
[06:10] <bob2> burepe: close whatever is accessing it
[06:10] <bob2> wickedpuppy: uh, that's not unreasonable
[06:10] <pupil> Hi guys,. for the /etc/apt/sources.list file,. what mirror do you use, I have tried de, and us,. and just plain archive,. all cause probs,. any others?
[06:10] <judge> hello, does UBUNTU have a GRUB.CONF file?
[06:10] <burepe> duh, thanks
[06:10] <bob2> judge: no
[06:10] <judge> bob2: thanks
[06:10] <jeremy913226> pupil:  http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/
[06:10] <bob2> burepe: "lsof | grep /media/whatever" will show you
[06:10] <pupil> bob2,  Hi guys,. for the /etc/apt/sources.list file,. what mirror do you use, I have tried de, and us,. and just plain archive,. all cause probs,. any others?
[06:10] <bob2> judge: it has /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:11] <bob2> pupil: define "probs"
[06:11] <linkcd> hi all, could u let me know how to find the dummy install file for ubuntu?
[06:11] <pupil> jeremy913226, But I'm in Toronto Canada,. you don't tnhink that might be too far away
[06:11] <jeremy913226> pupil: well you said the others weren't working...
[06:11] <pupil> bob2, not finding server
[06:11] <Foopub> I'm interesting in being able to play embedded media files in Firefox. I went to one site and Totem said something about fd0:// and crashed Firefox. I looked for Totem plugins and mplayer in Synaptic, but I didn't find anything. What do you guys use for this sort of thing?
[06:11] <Foopub> *interested
[06:11] <jonny> iv got some definet resolution problems in everything but GNOME!
[06:11] <pupil> jeremy913226, true,. I'll try that,. thanks
[06:12] <linkcd> i mean how can i use ubuntu for watching dvd?
[06:12] <Someguy> Can anyone help me on loading windows after linux install?
[06:12] <bob2> pupil: that's not waht it said, show us the actual message
[06:12] <linkcd> the default palyer is now working
[06:12] <burepe> bob2, i am still getting busy errrors
[06:12] <bob2> Someguy: "loading windos"? booting into it?
[06:12] <unkn0wn2u> Foopub, mozilla-mplayer
[06:12] <Someguy> yes
[06:12] <bob2> burepe: ...the command I gave you will show you what is accessing the device. nothing is?
[06:13] <linkcd> thanks, but where can i find them?
[06:13] <Someguy> I have the option, but when i choose it it just sits there doing nothing
[06:13] <grodings_> Can I get a link to the page that has the repository for doing dist-upgrade?
[06:13] <judge> thrush: thanks i just ran sudo ; grub;  setup(hd1) and that seems to have worked
[06:13] <bob2> grodings_: BreezyUpgradeNotes
[06:13] <Foopub> unkn0wn2u: It isn't in my list.
[06:13] <burepe> bob2,  I don't really get the out put
[06:13] <jonny> thrush: you use fluxbox, right?
[06:13] <jeremy913226> pupil: luck?
[06:13] <pupil> jeremy913226, yeah,. but its really slow
[06:13] <pupil> bob2, zip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[06:13] <pupil> Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages
[06:13] <pupil>   Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[06:13] <burepe> bob2,  I don't understand what it is accessing it
[06:14] <thrush> jonny: yes
[06:14] <bob2> burepe: then showing us instead of ignoring it would be a good start
[06:14] <unkn0wn2u> Foopub, build it from source
[06:14] <ranf> jonny, run: xdpyinfo | grep resolution
[06:14] <bob2> burepe: in #flood
[06:14] <fortran01> how can i configure konqueror to show the entire file name when in icon view. For example, "a_long_file_name_such_as_this" is shown as "a_long_file..."
[06:14] <thrush> Jukru: np :)
[06:14] <grodings_> bob2 i mean im on hoary
[06:14] <linkcd> and where is it?
[06:14] <linkcd> google foopub?
[06:14] <bob2> grodings_: then you'll need to ask your question more ckearly
[06:14] <jonny> ranf, in the terminal?
[06:14] <grodings_> bob2 actually i think im good
[06:14] <unkn0wn2u> Foopub, if you don't build it from source the package won't have buttons for stop start fastforward etc
[06:15] <ranf> jonny, yes
[06:15] <linkcd> ok,i will try
[06:15] <linkcd> thanks
[06:15] <jonny> thrush: where are all the apps in fluxbox?
[06:15] <bob2> grodings_: that's great, but I don't understand your question if you didn't mean "What should my sources.list look like if I want to dist-upgrade to breezy?"
[06:15] <Foopub> unkn0wn2u: Well, I'd rather try it with the package manager. I'm still experimenting on the LiveCD.
[06:15] <grodings_> bob2 yeah thats what i meant
[06:15] <bob2> grodings_: and the answer is is 03:13:17           bob2 | grodings_: BreezyUpgradeNotes
[06:15] <burepe> bob2,  I put it in #flood
[06:15] <bob2> grodings_: on the wiki
[06:15] <rohal> my system autostarts gnome using gdm......what should i do if i have 2 or more windows manager....& i want to choose between them on each boot???
[06:15] <bob2> burepe: the topic also has your answer in it
[06:16] <grodings_> bob2 oh thats it? thats all ur rep should say??
[06:16] <bob2> burepe: you can't unmount a directory you're sitting in
[06:16] <linkcd> ft, the google can't find any useful link of goopub
[06:16] <bob2> burepe: cd /
[06:16] <linkcd> foopub
[06:16] <pupil> bob2, what webpage has a listing of the mirrors ?
[06:16] <burepe> oh
[06:16] <burepe> thanks
[06:16] <bob2> pupil: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:16] <pupil> bob2, I'm gonna try a few of them out
[06:16] <thrush> jonny: most everything should be accessable from the right click menu.  you can also open quicker opening like xterm and just typing 'gedit &' for examp
[06:16] <Foopub> linkcd: I'm not following. What about Google?
[06:17] <unkn0wn2u> Foopub, give me a sec to find the repo
[06:17] <tziade__> is it ok to add the debian sid into ubuntu sources.list ?
[06:17] <grodings_> bob2 can u post again i just got in flood
[06:17] <linkcd> ok :)
[06:17] <bob2> grodings_: ?
[06:17] <bob2> grodings_: read the channel topic
[06:17] <bob2> tziade__: no
[06:18] <thrush> jonny: the & isnt necessary but is handy so gedit just opens and doesnt stay in your terminal
[06:18] <tziade__> bob2: i need a package that's over there, and i can't build it :'(
[06:18] <grodings_> bob2 sorry i thought you said something about flood
[06:18] <jonny> I get this when I type xdpyinfo xdpyinfo, ranf
[06:18] <pupil> bob2, I don't see "jack" on wiki.ubuntu.com/archive,.
[06:18] <grodings_> bob2 thanks
[06:18] <bob2> tziade__: and it is...?
[06:18] <tziade__> python-wxgtk2.6
[06:18] <jonny> thrush: maybe I didnt install it properly?
[06:18] <bob2> pupil: what?
[06:19] <pupil> bob2, that page you gave me is completely useless,.
[06:19] <pupil> bob2, I don't even know why you sent me there
[06:19] <bob2> tziade__: python-wxgtk2.6 is in ubuntu...
[06:19] <thrush> jonny: sudo apt-get install fluxbox? its diff from the other window managers and takes some getting used to
[06:19] <Tokenizer> why is it that when i do "rm -f /mydirectory" ... i get the message "/mydirectory is a Directory" ........ shouldn't the -f take care of it?
[06:19] <bob2> 03:16:16          pupil |  bob2, what webpage has a listing of the mirrors ?
[06:19] <linkcd> Your search - Ubuntu Foopub - did not match any documents.
[06:19] <bob2> 03:16:26           bob2 | pupil: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:19] <bob2> Tokenizer: no
[06:19] <linkcd> :(
[06:20] <bob2> Tokenizer: you want 'rm -r /whatever'
[06:20] <Tokenizer> -r . oopse
[06:20] <jonny> thrush: also i cant see the whole screen in fluxbox or KDE, do you know what could be the problem?
[06:20] <thrush> jonny: right-click and goto styles I dont like the default theme so I would change that
[06:20] <bob2> pupil: what did you intend to mean by "what webpage has a listing of the mirrors ?" if not "what page has a list of Ubuntu mirrors?"
[06:20] <Foopub> linkcd: What's going on?
[06:20] <thrush> jonny: resolution problem? is gnome ok?
[06:21] <jonny> thrush: yes in GNOME its fine
[06:21] <linkcd> i mean, can foopub play dvd on ubuntu?
[06:21] <tziade__> bob2: i get a coul'nt find error on it (i have universe, and multiverse in my hoary)
[06:22] <bob2> tziade__: it's in breezy
[06:22] <unkn0wn2u> Foopub, go find it yourself I don't want to babysit you through this thats why your lazy
[06:22] <tziade__> bob2, can i change from hoary to breezy in source.list without pb ?
[06:22] <linkcd> all right
[06:23] <linkcd> thanks
[06:23] <jonny> thrush: did this happen with you?
[06:23] <bob2> tziade__: /topic
[06:23] <thrush> jonny: are u familiar with pastbin site? Open your xorg.conf file and paste it
[06:24] <tziade__> bob2, thx , sorry i did'nt see
[06:24] <Someguy> How do I boot into windows now? I just loaded linux, I can mount in linux but I can not boot into windows now. I can also choose windows from the startup list, but it just freezes after I select it. Any Ideas?
[06:24] <jonny> ok, one moment
[06:25] <jonny> is xorg.config a command?
[06:25] <jorloff> is this the ubunto support channel?
[06:25] <jorloff> new user, sorry
[06:25] <_jason> jorloff:  yes
[06:25] <jorloff> ok, do I just ask questions on here, or to people individually
[06:25] <_jason> jorloff:  just ask
[06:25] <Someguy> Can anyone please help with my booting problem?
[06:26] <nicholaspaul> anyone got experience with C compilers? I'm trying to install a tar.gz
[06:26] <thrush> jonny: not on ubuntu right now but its a file. open gedit and goto /etc/Xorg.conf someone correct me if path is wrong
[06:26] <unkn0wn2u> Someguy, sure linux works but windows doesn't , isn't that the way its supposed to be
[06:26] <jonny> here u go, thrush! http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3792
[06:26] <Foopub> Is this channel moderated at all?
[06:26] <jorloff> ok, i just now installed ubuntu for the first time, and it was all successful, except: it didnt ask for a root password, so now i cant get into root mode
[06:26] <GURT> Foopub: yeah
[06:26] <jonny> I just searched for it in filesystem, thrush
[06:26] <Someguy> well i would like to switch back and forth sometimes
[06:27] <omer> How do I install hebrew font at openofice, kde and abi? I installed culmus with apt, but nothing changed.
[06:27] <_jason> thrush, jonny: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:27] <nicholaspaul> i downloaded a tar.gz file, went to ./configure and i get errors about the compiler . Anyone know ?
[06:27] <Foopub> Is it more than just language? I.e. Is what unkn0wn2u more than just a violation of the Ubuntu spirit?
[06:27] <unkn0wn2u> Someguy, boot into linux and type fdisk -l
[06:27] <Foopub> *unkn0wn2u said
[06:27] <edmondo> hhello
[06:27] <edmondo> all
[06:27] <rohal> can anyone tell me what should i do so that enlightenment appears as one of the options for gdm sessino....right now it just has gnome???
[06:27] <nicholaspaul> "C   compiler cannot create executables'
[06:27] <_jason> ubotu:  tell jorloff about sudo
[06:28] <edmondo> can someone help me please?
[06:28] <Someguy> k
[06:28] <nicholaspaul> whats up edmondo?
[06:28] <thrush> nicholaspaul: have you sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[06:28] <nicholaspaul> no thrush.. lemme try :) thx!!!
[06:28] <psycode> i have a cd which i can read from windows, but i can't from linux (it shows me the directories, but the files inside them, which are set to hidden on windows just don't exist)
[06:29] <edmondo> nicholaspaul, i`ve just install ubuntu. i have 2pc`s in my house. the otherone has installed windows on it. how do i share my internet connection ???
[06:29] <unkn0wn2u> Foopub, calm down don't get mad at me because i wont find you a repo , ie i found it by myself you can too search the internet unless your too lazy to move your mouse
[06:29] <thrush> jonny: gnome is my fav environment next to fluxbox so youre not in too bad shape :)
[06:29] <Foopub> unkn0wn2u: What you are saying is riduculous, considering that I never asked you to find me anything.
[06:30] <jonny> thrush: I want to use xfce though
[06:30] <jonny> or fluxbox
[06:30] <iiiears> edmondo - firestarter firewall will setup connection sharing through ubuntu
[06:30] <nicholaspaul> edmondo" i believe that sharing a connection from ubuntu is going to involve installing Firestarter and using a special ethernet cable (wracking brain to remember what its called)
[06:30] <jonny> do u no how to fix it?
[06:30] <nicholaspaul> edmondo it would be easier and cheaper just to buy a router.
[06:30] <EY> installing 5.10 on my dell latitude c810
[06:30] <EY> so far so good
[06:30] <iiiears> edmondo - windows >> ubuntu >> The 'Net
[06:30] <thrush> jonny: when you right click or open a menu is everything really big? or is screen just messed up?
[06:30] <jorloff> thanks for the help, i understand now
[06:30] <unkn0wn2u> whats riduculous
[06:31] <jonny> thrush: just the screen
[06:31] <iiiears> !firestarter
[06:31] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic
[06:31] <nicholaspaul> edmondo i have three ubuntu machines, one windows and OSX all wireless on one router. Works great:)
[06:31] <pupil> bob2, I do not see any mirrors on the page wiki.ubuntu.com/archive  is that clear enough?
[06:31] <Tokenizer> if i have one of those keyboars or mouse with fancy extra button, how could i configure those extra buttons... or give them function........ on windows, forexample i had them set to copy and paste on the mouse
[06:31] <_jason> ubotu:  tell Tokenizer about mouse5
[06:31] <EY> gee, takes long to boot though
[06:32] <iiiears> edmondo - a router is the easiest way to do it - the router handles NAT network address translation.
[06:32] <nicholaspaul> hey thrush - thanks! it looks like it worked :)
[06:32] <DaMouse> hello..
[06:32] <edmondo> nicholaspaul, i don`t wanna buy a router. i wanna use my pc with ubuntu on it as a router
[06:32] <DaMouse> people..
[06:32] <DaMouse> O_O
[06:32] <thrush> jonny: screen is maybe off center? are there black areas on one side or other with nothing in them?
[06:32] <DaMouse> lots of people
[06:32] <jonny> yes, thrush
[06:32] <Foopub> unkn0wn2u: I would think what you just did would make you unwelcome in this channel. If were a newbie, your statements would drive me away from using Linux.
[06:32] <thrush> nicholaspaul: np :)
[06:32] <nicholaspaul> edmondo - you'll still need a special ethernet cable - theyre about twice the price of reg. ones.
[06:32] <iiiears> edmondo - firestarter is an all graphical install and configuration
[06:32] <MaestroTechie> My /dev/mdxx devices are GONE! How do I get them back?
[06:33] <edmondo> iiiears, where can i find it??
[06:33] <edmondo> nicholaspaul, you meen crossover?
[06:33] <unkn0wn2u> Foopub, I don't care , the community doesn't care, no one cares
[06:33] <thrush> jonny:  prob just your monitor settings then try playing with menu button on front of monitor and move screen around.
[06:33] <iiiears> edmondo - in synaptic package manager after enabling repositories community supported universe
[06:33] <jonny> abd thrush, if I move my mouse over to to a side of the screen, I cant see the mouse pointer
[06:33] <burepe> bob2, if you're not busy, I can't get this harddrive to not be busy
[06:33] <edmondo> iiiears, and how could i enable that?
[06:34] <Foopub> unkn0wn2u: Another fine example of why you shouldn't be welcomed here.
[06:34] <jonny> thrush, iv tried that
[06:34] <nicholaspaul> edmondo- you need a crossover ethernet cable
[06:34] <jonny> same problem with pointer
[06:34] <nicholaspaul> edmondo- here they cost the same as a router
[06:34] <DaMouse> unkn0wn2u: I care..
[06:34] <EY> anyone has ubuntu on ppc?
[06:34] <nicholaspaul> i do EY
[06:34] <EY> how is support for things like java and flash/shockwave?
[06:34] <edmondo> nicholaspaul, i have one. now what do i do?
[06:35] <Foopub> Are there no mods in here?
[06:35] <nicholaspaul> edmondo - i dont know, sorry.. i wanted to do the same thing and thats as far as i got :!
[06:35] <iiiears> edmondo - System >> synaptic package manager >>
[06:35] <bob2> pupil: uh, so stop whinging and actually use the URL I gave you. wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive has dozens of ubuntu mirrors.
[06:35] <bob2> Foopub: sure there are.
[06:35] <bob2> burepe: yes you can
[06:35] <EY> nicholaspaul, how is support for java and flash/shockwave?
[06:35] <bob2> burepe: cd out of that dir, then run lsof again and show us the output
[06:35] <nicholaspaul> EY flash is fine. i havent tried java
[06:35] <bob2> EY: no flash, java is fine
[06:35] <unkn0wn2u> DaMouse, i do a little but only with the people who are willing to actually work to get linux to work for you , you can't just install it and not want to configure anything
[06:35] <iiiears> >> filters >> repositories >>plus sign + >> universe
[06:35] <edmondo> iiiears, i can`t find firestarter?
[06:35] <bob2> nicholaspaul: you have a flash plugin from macromedia on ppc?
[06:35] <burepe> bob2 there is no output
[06:36] <EY> LOL, i guess the two answers complement each other
[06:36] <tomekki> Hi! How i can make burn bootable image with NERO? ("make bootable disk" wont work).
[06:36] <DaMouse> unkn0wn2u: you can.. just look at .. #mand**** :P
[06:36] <bob2> burepe: then you can umount it
[06:36] <Foopub> bob2: I take it Ubuntu doesn't have very high standards, then?
[06:36] <tomekki> (bootable ubuntu-image)
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> bob2 oh wait .. maybe not.. ! sorry to confure you!
[06:36] <bob2> Foopub: oh, stop it
[06:36] <pupil> bob2, the page was not loading before
[06:36] <Foopub> bob2: For it's channel, that is.
[06:36] <pupil> bob2, sorry about that
[06:36] <UfaOgros> lon3tree install iptables, and: http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/
[06:36] <lon3tree> hi crimsun
[06:36] <lon3tree> sorry about that day
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> bob2 EY i havent tried Java to be honest
[06:36] <Foopub> bob2: What?
[06:36] <thrush> jonny: cant think of whatelse it would be other than monitor setting sorry
[06:36] <kbrooks> bob2: !
[06:36] <kbrooks> bob2:
[06:36] <bob2> Foopub: that pathetic trolling
[06:36] <burepe> maybe my command is wrong because it says device busy, bob2
[06:36] <UfaOgros> edmondo install iptables, and: http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/
[06:36] <lon3tree> hi TTilus
[06:36] <bob2> or whatever that silliness is
[06:37] <jonny> oh well *sigh*
[06:37] <EY> bob2, what worries me is how long ibm is going to make a java impl available
[06:37] <iiiears> edmondo - under settings repositories .. add  universe communitty supported
[06:37] <UfaOgros> edmondo there u specify parammetrs, and u r done
[06:37] <Foopub> bob2: Did you miss something?
[06:37] <bob2> EY: meh, eventually Free java will catch up
[06:37] <bob2> Foopub: are you done?
[06:37] <nicholaspaul> tar.gz / binary noob <---- ! What do i do after ./configure?
[06:37] <Foopub> bob2: Are you a mod?
[06:38] <EY> on what ppc are you running it on?
[06:38] <bob2> nicholaspaul: make, generally
[06:38] <bob2> nicholaspaul: the INSTALL file should explain it
[06:38] <unkn0wn2u> nicholaspaul, read the INSTALL file
[06:38] <nicholaspaul> thanks bob2 :)
[06:38] <nicholaspaul> INSTALL, gotcha :)
[06:38] <Tuxist> hi i have problem with ubuntu 64bit and quake 4
[06:38] <iiiears> edmondo - be careful - you will have a big surprise 17,000 free applications will now be available - many people become short of breath at the surprise. - lol :)
[06:38] <brynjarh> If I want to create a "map" of objects, for example if I have one object called "object1" and then connected to object one are "object1.1" "object1.2" and "object1.3" and conected to "object1.2" and the others are other objects (object1.2.1, object1.3.3, etc..) and I want to be able to see it graphically (the connections between the objects and the objects are just words) like a 2D image or a 3D image using 2D graphics or a 3D image using 3D grap
[06:38] <brynjarh> hics. What software could I use?
[06:39] <DaMouse> all hail the almighy INSTALL file :P
[06:39] <bob2> brynjarh: dotty could generate 2d layouts like that
[06:39] <HappyFool> brynjarh: graphviz, maybe?
[06:39] <jonny> heres my problem: in everything but GNOME, when I move my mouse all the way over to the side of the screen, I cant see it!
[06:39] <EY> is ubuntu planning for cairo to be in default install anytime soon?
[06:39] <brynjarh> dotty and graphviz, I'll check it out.
[06:40] <bob2> EY: cairo is already in the default install
[06:40] <iiiears> ubotu telll edmondo about repositories
[06:40] <bob2> brynjarh: (dotty is part of the graphviz set of software)
[06:40] <EY> enabled too?
[06:40] <Tuxist> the failure message :./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:40] <bob2> yes...
[06:40] <bob2> Tuxist: packages.ubuntu.com, find the package that contains that, then install it
[06:40] <EY> nicholaspaul, do you have an account of your install of ubuntu on ppc so i can get some tips?
[06:40] <lon3tree> wat is this iptable thing all about?
[06:40] <iiiears> bob2 - Good Morning!
[06:41] <Tuxist> i have the libsdl installed and the lib32
[06:41] <bob2> lon3tree: the kernel's firewall system, more or less
[06:41] <DrZeus> hi all.  I have a problem with repositories.  Each time I try to install new packages it tells me that the dependencies werent found, and that maybe the repositories are incorrect
[06:41] <bob2> Tuxist: if it' not in ia32-libs, it's chroot time
[06:41] <newbie2> greetings
[06:41] <bob2> DrZeus: you need to show us the full error in #flood
[06:41] <bob2> DrZeus: and the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:41] <bob2> iiiears: hiya
[06:41] <linuxgeek2> hi folks where can I get good ubuntu wallpapers
[06:41] <Tuxist> chroot
[06:42] <DrZeus> bob2, I was using synaptics
[06:42] <thrush> linuxgeek2: deviantart.com always has nice stuff
[06:42] <newbie2> I have to say I am liking linux more now that I have my Wifi working
[06:42] <pupil> bob2, I'm using a nvidia RIVA TNT2 card,. the performance is not the greatest,. is there a way to get better results from my video card?
[06:42] <linuxgeek2> k
[06:42] <_jason> ubotu:  tell linuxgeek2 about art
[06:43] <lon3tree> is it official?
[06:43] <Tuxist> chroot linux ?
[06:43] <Tuxist> 2
[06:43] <lon3tree> btw, who is using wpa here?
[06:43] <HappyFool> lon3tree: you're asking if iptables is 'official' ?
[06:43] <thrush> linuxgeek2: also art.gnome.org has a nice FAQ on themes
[06:43] <edmondo> please help me. i wanna share my internet connection to another pc that it`s connected directly to mine. what do i have to do????????
[06:43] <linuxgeek2> k
[06:44] <newbie2> were do they hide the additional software for ubuntu
[06:44] <koala_man> what do I install to get things like man 2 read?
[06:44] <DaMouse> in cookie tins
[06:44] <lon3tree> HappyFool: yes
[06:44] <unkn0wn2u> edmondo you need a route setup
[06:44] <lon3tree> is it official?
[06:44] <erUSUL> newbie2, in the universe
[06:44] <DrZeus> bob2, Ill use apt-get to see the error
[06:44] <lon3tree> and also I'm asking if any one here is using wpa
[06:44] <Stormx2> !mp3
[06:44] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[06:44] <HappyFool> lon3tree: i've told ubotu to give you some firewall info
[06:44] <edmondo> unkn0wn2u, how do i setup the ubuntu to be a router?
[06:44] <erUSUL> !tell newbie2 about repos
[06:44] <newbie2> i have read about the universe
[06:44] <newbie2> were is it
[06:44] <unkn0wn2u> edmondo, man route
[06:45] <edmondo> unkn0wn2u, how do i route?? :(
[06:45] <HappyFool> lon3tree: it's standard; i'm not sure about 'official' (an odd word to describe it)
[06:45] <unkn0wn2u> edmondo, man route
[06:45] <Tuxist> how can i compile 32bit programm under 64bit linux
[06:45] <HappyFool> koala_man: the manpages-dev package
[06:45] <edmondo> unkn0wn2u, can you help me please?
[06:46] <koala_man> HappyFool: thanks
[06:46] <unkn0wn2u> edmondo, type man route
[06:46] <brynjarh> Does there a manual exist for Ubuntu? Like an indept guide on using it?
[06:46] <bob2> pupil: depends what you want to do
[06:46] <bob2> pupil: perhaps wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:46] <iiiears> brynjarh, - the ubuntu wiki
[06:47] <Orunitia[sleep] > anyone know what to edit in the configuration editor to stop that annoying clicking sound in nautilus?
[06:47] <bob2> brynjarh: help.ubuntu.com/doc.ubuntu.com/wiki.ubutnu.com
[06:47] <HappyFool> brynjarh: you can try the faq (system -> help, choose 'starter guide')
[06:47] <iiiears> !wiki
[06:47] <nicholaspaul> bob2 . i read the INSTALL file, but the instr. dont seem to work. 'make install' gives me errors ' - do i need another package to make that work?
[06:47] <brynjarh> Thank you all. :)
[06:47] <kent> Orunitia[sleep] , system->settings->sounds
[06:47] <bob2> nicholaspaul: you need to show us the errors in #flood
[06:47] <unkn0wn2u> system->preferences->sound
[06:47] <nicholaspaul> ok bob2
[06:47] <unkn0wn2u> I don't think its annoying
[06:48] <MaestroTechie> i recompiled my linux kernel last night, and now my /dev/mdxxx devices are missing. does anyone know why and how i can get them back?
[06:48] <unkn0wn2u> MaestroTechie, boot into the other kernel
[06:49] <moox> hi all ! I had modified my PATH to put java into. Java works trough a shell but not in gnome. Is there another variable to configure ?
[06:49] <bob2> MaestroTechie: why are you recompiling your kernel?
[06:49] <Tuxist> can i use the command ? linux32 ./configure
[06:49] <newbie2> found it have a good one
[06:49] <EY> install finished. 30 minutes'ish
[06:50] <EY> great choice of sounds
[06:50] <MaestroTechie> bob2: I needed to add support for my Initio SCSI Controller card....
[06:51] <burepe> bob2, I get a return with lsof | grep /media/120baby , but I still busy errors when I try to umount
[06:51] <MaestroTechie> bob2: recompiling actually worked...but now, the /dev/mdxxx devices aren't there so i can software raid my two SCSI drives.
[06:51] <unkn0wn2u> MaestroTechie, recompile with metadisk raid support
[06:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[06:51] <EY> what is the default root password!?
[06:51] <BooZee> hello. is there a Digital Sound Editor for linux ?
[06:51] <iiiears> Hi Ensi,
[06:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone here use sbackup--"Simple Backup"?
[06:51] <HappyFool> !tell EY about root
[06:51] <bob2> EY: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:51] <_jason> EY:  there is none, use sudo
[06:51] <MaestroTechie> unkn0wn2u: I'm in the Linux Kernel menuconfig as we speak. I'm looking for metadisk raid support, and can not find it.
[06:51] <bob2> EY: the installer explained this to ytou, too
[06:51] <necator> hi
[06:51] <EY> thanks
[06:52] <unkn0wn2u> BooZee, use sound audicity
[06:52] <bob2> MaestroTechie: sounds like you forgot md support?
[06:52] <EY> i'm through gnome, didn't realise gnome control panels used sudo
[06:52] <erisco> where can i find out what the CVS cedega supports?
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Gee are we going to have to make the installer put the root info in BIG bold letters? :P
[06:52] <nicholaspaul> any ideas ben2?
[06:52] <necator> is the ubuntu wiki for the most recent version of ubuntu? because i was told i should not read the ubuntuguide.com
[06:52] <MaestroTechie> bob2:  sounds like it :-(
[06:52] <nicholaspaul> any ideas bob2?
[06:52] <EY> ohhhh ubuntu looks so nice on this 1600x1200 screen
[06:52] <HappyFool> necator: wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:52] <BooZee> unkn0wn2u:   is it in synaptic?
[06:52] <_jason> necator:  read help.ubuntu.com also
[06:52] <linuxgeek2> hi folks I am still facing the problem of getting into gnome after the gdm screen. The damn thing takes  almost like 10 minutes to boot in when network interfaces like wireless is enabled
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> ubunuguide is out of date in many areas.
[06:52] <EY> i'm afraid the ibook g3 is gonna have less love from me
[06:52] <BooZee> unkn0wn2u:  cuz I can't seem to find it there
[06:53] <edmondo> please help me. i wanna share my internet connection to another pc that it`s connected directly to mine. what do i have to do????????
[06:53] <nicholaspaul> EY love your ibook, just dont luuuuuuuuurv your ibook ;)
[06:53] <linuxgeek2> any fix for that ?
[06:53] <unkn0wn2u> BooZee, shoud be audcity or audicy
[06:53] <fing> how do i disable the internet printing protocole demond
[06:53] <necator> how do you guys send those messages to me where the text appears red and its directed at my name?
[06:53] <Orunitia[sleep] > kent - thanks (sorry, walked away from my pc)
[06:53] <edmondo> please help me. i wanna share my internet connection(i have ubuntu)  to another pc that it`s connected directly to mine and it runs windows on itwhat do i have to do????????
[06:53] <unkn0wn2u> audacity
[06:53] <Coweater> anyone know why rox-filer depends on mousepad?
[06:53] <HappyFool> necator: it's like that cos your nick is in the text
[06:53] <_jason> necator:  anything with your name in it "necator" will be in red
[06:53] <BooZee> unkn0wn2u:  nope. none
[06:53] <necator> oooo!
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> linuxgeek2,  may be able to edit the hosts file. and set 127.0.0.1 as the name of the local machne in addation to localhost.
[06:54] <necator> i thought you guys were using a command.
[06:54] <erisco> does cedega only support games? i am trying to rune adobe photoshop
[06:54] <necator> _jason thanks for the info. you too happyfool
[06:54] <heatxsink> how do I boot with the irqpoll option in grub?
[06:54] <unkn0wn2u> i have it as audacity
[06:54] <heatxsink> boot irqpoll?
[06:54] <necator> like that?
[06:54] <linuxgeek2> Dr_Willis, how do I do that
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> erisco,  it support many windows appliocations.
[06:54] <iiiears> will modprobe  unload a driver when the same driver is reloaded with different options?   modprobe modprobe saa7134 card=41 tuner=2
[06:54] <iiiears>   then~$ modprobe saa7134 card=43 tuner=2
[06:54] <iiiears> 
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> linuxgeek2,  edit the /etc/hosts  file
[06:54] <heatxsink> iiiears:  no, must rmmod saa7134
[06:54] <hume_> hi.. I am trying to connect a Minolta Digicam s41 to my ubuntu workstation, but it cannot read the device (USB mass storage) - anyone knows about these problems or where I can find resources?
[06:54] <bob2> iiiears: that's a good question; I'd think not
[06:55] <nicholaspaul> hume_ the wiki is a good resource.
[06:55] <heatxsink> iiiears:  I'm having problems with that card as we speak
[06:55] <edmondo> please help me. i wanna share my internet connection(i have ubuntu)  to another pc that it`s connected directly to mine and it runs windows on itwhat do i have to do????????
[06:55] <Tuxist> how can i install the libsdl in /usr/lib32
[06:55] <iiiears> heatxsink, - Ah - okay - grin that eplainseverything. - thank you.
[06:55] <linuxgeek2> this is what my /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost ash
[06:55] <nicholaspaul> edmondo try reading up on Firestarter.
[06:55] <bob2> edmondo: please stop it
[06:55] <bob2> edmondo: ask once and wait
[06:55] <bob2> edmondo: and no need for so many exclamation marks
[06:55] <bob2> er, question.
[06:55] <linuxgeek2> Dr_Willis, 127.0.0.1 localhost ash is what my /etc/hosts contain
[06:55] <linuxgeek2> ?
[06:56] <EnsignRedshirt> IF sbackup wrote a log file, it would be in /var/log, right?
[06:56] <hybrid> anyone dual boot OSX and Ubuntu?
[06:56] <hume_> nicholaspaul, i find no matches for my cam there...
[06:56] <heatxsink> iiiears:  welcome, have you seen this page ... http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_saa7134
[06:56] <moox> How configure PATH to work under gnome ?
[06:56] <heatxsink> iiiears:  there's a handy script on there
[06:56] <iiiears> heatxsink - yes
[06:56] <HappyFool> anything with three or more exclamation marks *must* be true!!!
[06:56] <MaestroTechie> Does anyone know where i can add metadisk raid support in my linux kernel configuration?
[06:56] <nicholaspaul> sorry hume_ i just know it as a good resource.
[06:56] <unkn0wn2u> edmondo, do you have networking experience?
[06:56] <heatxsink> iiiears:  did you have to boot with irqpoll in order for the kernel NOT to disable your card?
[06:56] <hume_> nicholaspaul, ok, yes it usually is...
[06:56] <edmondo> unkn0wn2u, yes, but not linux
[06:56] <HappyFool> EnsignRedshirt: quite likely, but check the docs (maybe 'man sbackup')
[06:57] <edmondo> unkn0wn2u, just tell me what to do plsease
[06:57] <unkn0wn2u> edmondo, have you setup static ip on you winblows box
[06:57] <Toba> will my ubuntu system switch daylight savings time by itself?
[06:57] <bob2> Toba: yes
[06:57] <Toba> good.
[06:57] <EasterSunshine> i have pure-ftpd install, why is it that when i do `/etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start`, and then `ps -A|grep ftpd`, i don't see anything?
[06:57] <Toba> that's what I thought.
[06:57] <bob2> Toba: if you dual boot with windows, tho, they may both try to do it
[06:57] <linuxgeek2> Dr_Willis, any ideas? on this
[06:57] <edmondo> unkn0wn2u, i don`t think so. how do i do that?
[06:57] <Toba> not dual boot
[06:57] <iiiears> heatxsink - i am not that faralong. a bit tough still wearing away the green covering of a linux newbie. - ;)
[06:57] <Toba> so I'm good
[06:58] <EnsignRedshirt> HappyFool: Good idea, but there is no man page.
[06:58] <HappyFool> EnsignRedshirt: /usr/share/doc/sbackup
[06:58] <unkn0wn2u> edmondo, you need to take a class or something man , I'm not going to go through all this with you
[06:58] <iiiears> heatxsink - thats good info  "irqpoll"
[06:58] <Stormx2> ack.
[06:58] <Stormx2> Serpentine crashed mid-way through
[06:58] <edmondo> unkn0wn2u, plsease. i really need help. ! :(
[06:59] <Stormx2> now the CD won't eject
[06:59] <Stormx2> How should i eject it?
[06:59] <edmondo> unkn0wn2u, on private, please
[06:59] <nicholaspaul> edmondo. I would honestly try studying/reading Firestarter. Then ask questions.
[06:59] <nicholaspaul> :)
[06:59] <HappyFool> Stormx2: try 'sudo eject' or maybe even 'sudo eject -s'
[06:59] <necator> OMG you can drag drop text to desktop and it makes text files!!
[06:59] <necator> this thing never stops amazing me
[06:59] <nicholaspaul> woohoo
[06:59] <Stormx2> wow
[06:59] <Stormx2> thats cool
[06:59] <Stormx2> :D
[07:00] <moonburn> Serpentine always crashes for me
[07:00] <nicholaspaul> i know what you mean necator. I particularly like little stuff in kde.
[07:00] <moonburn> just unmount it.
[07:00] <edmondo> unkn0wn2u, :?? :(
[07:00] <necator> i cant belive i didnt have this sooner
[07:00] <mythtv> oin #mythtv-users
[07:00] <necator> nicholaspaul what is kde?
[07:00] <hybrid> i am trying to install ubuntu on a free 4.2gb partition. I have HFS+ OSX on one I have a 784mb swap and 2MB NewWorldBootStrap. Then while installing the base system I get "debootstrap exited with an error (return value 2)" and it tells me to check /var/log/messages. Then it says "base system install into /target/ failed" what do i do?
[07:00] <Stormx2> KDE is a desktop environment
[07:00] <Stormx2> !kde
[07:00] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:00] <nicholaspaul> necator, its a desktop
[07:00] <necator> like ubuntu? nicholaspaul?
[07:01] <nicholaspaul> necator, go to synaptic and search for it.
[07:01] <nicholaspaul> necator - its like gnome (on Ubuntu)
[07:01] <Stormx2> Read what ubotu put
[07:01] <EY> damn, network doesn't work
[07:01] <necator> nicholaspaul i dont want to mess up anything until i make it all the way thru wit this desktop :p
[07:01] <coolkev> While trying to complie firestarter i got the error that consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[07:01] <moonburn> storm: did you stop/kill the serpentine process?
[07:01] <Stormx2> necator: Yeah, I Suggest you don't use KDE just yet
[07:01] <coolkev> how do i adjust them
[07:01] <necator> nicholaspul wahts difference between kde and gnome? is gnome what im using right now?
[07:01] <nicholaspaul> necator, oh you wont. it doesnt change your settings, just makes things look difft. and gives you more tools
[07:01] <mips> Can anybody recommend a ripper/encoder for mp3. Something that uses lame with a simple GUI and options to set paramaters for VBR etc
[07:01] <Stormx2> moonburn: No worries, it ejected
[07:02] <HappyFool> coolkev: make sure you've installed all the necessary -dev packages
[07:02] <nicholaspaul> necator, you're prob using Gnome, yes. KDE is just more ooey Gui.
[07:02] <hybrid> necator: KDE is more like Windows and Gnome is more OSX
[07:02] <moonburn> aight
[07:02] <HappyFool> coolkev: try 'apt-get build-dep firestarter'
[07:02] <Stormx2> nicholaspaul: And better for programming
[07:02] <coolkev> happyfool: they are there, but the version numbers are different in ubuntu
[07:02] <HappyFool> coolkev: i'm not sure if that requires 'deb-src' entries in /etc/apt/sources.list -- it might
[07:02] <nicholaspaul> oh.. i'm not a programmer - i avoid it like the plague!! Run away !!
[07:02] <necator> nichoalaspul, hybrid, so kde is like more fancy ?
[07:03] <EnsignRedshirt> HappyFool: Thanks for the /usr/share/doc pointer.  I didn't find anything there about log files.
[07:03] <necator> stormx2 you say kde is better for programming?
[07:03] <alekz> ping me pls!
[07:03] <Stormx2> nicholaspaul: I said it was better for programming, not solely used for programming, jackass.
[07:03] <nicholaspaul> necator... perhaps, yea. Id say so. it has some apps that work better (for me ) like K3b disc burner.
[07:03] <coolkev> oh rather then having deb bla blah i put deb-scr blah blah?
[07:03] <HappyFool> coolkev: hmm. you mean you've installed extra libs to '/usr/local' ?
[07:03] <Stormx2> necator: it has been said, yes.
[07:03] <nicholaspaul> stormx2:  now now... i just said i avoid programming.
[07:03] <coolkev> let me use pastebin to paste the output fromt eh complie
[07:03] <necator> would you guys recommend me switching to kde? is it more user friendly? i just asked my friend on aim he said its a memory hog but he is often very bias
[07:03] <coolkev> give me a moment happyfool
[07:03] <Stormx2> necator: A lot more programming apps are designed for KDE than GNOME. There are still good apps for gnome. I use gnome for programming ^_^
[07:03] <HappyFool> coolkev: well, if you've done 'apt-get build-dep firestarter' and there were no errors, you might be OK
[07:03] <nicholaspaul> stormx2: ie. I dont look at the programming tools.
[07:03] <BooZee> unkn0wn2u:  it says it's a fast editor for easy recording. I need a program that can do complicated editing
[07:04] <nicholaspaul> necator - give it a whirl
[07:04] <necator> can you do c++ on linux?
[07:04] <hybrid> any help to the debootstrap issue?
[07:04] <hybrid> necator: yes
[07:04] <necator> im trying to make a full windows to linux conversion
[07:04] <EnsignRedshirt> I am trying to set up sbackup to back up to an external usb disk.  The disk is "auto mounted", but it can only be accessed with root privileges.  Simple Backup does not use gksudo to run, so it fails to backup to the external disk... and it also fails to give any indication that it didn't back anything up!
[07:04] <coolkev> HappyFoll: the reason for my complie is because hoary repos have version 1.0.1 and current version is 1.0.3
[07:04] <Stormx2> necator: For beginner, I would use GNOME. Its an age old debate which is better, but Ubuntu is GNOME by default.
[07:04] <HappyFool> coolkev: and there are specific features you require?
[07:04] <necator> yes i love age old debates that cause flame wars :p
[07:04] <nicholaspaul> necator - i just love using differeent desktops. just for fun!
[07:04] <hybrid> Stormx2: heh like Vim vs Emacs
[07:04] <coolkev> yes
[07:04] <necator> nvidia beats ati! XD
[07:04] <Stormx2> I don't use either
[07:05] <hybrid> Vim pwns
[07:05] <iiiears> edmondo - apt get buil   for "firestarter"?????    installing using synaptic didn't work?
[07:05] <Stormx2> and i hate emacs
[07:05] <coolkev> hoary's repos are very behind in software update
[07:05] <Stormx2> yuk
[07:05] <necator> how many of these " different  desktops" exist? i didnt know there was such a thing. i am very new to linux world.
[07:05] <HappyFool> emacs is the one true editor!
[07:05] <bob2> coolkev: uh, hoary has no updates aside from security fixes
[07:05] <delta> evolution is also a news reader?
[07:05] <nicholaspaul> necator  another fave of mine is Fluxbox.
[07:05] <bob2> coolkev: and hasn't since april
[07:05] <bob2> coolkev: breezy is out now
[07:05] <hybrid> delta: yes
[07:05] <Stormx2> necator: GNOME and KDE are the main ones. Theres also Fluxbox and K3B
[07:05] <nicholaspaul> necator -  there are quite a few, you can google for them
[07:05] <HappyFool> coolkev: consider upgrading to breezy -- it has 1.0.3
[07:05] <iiiears> necator - take a look at freedesktop.org
[07:05] <coolkev> i was on it, and it messed my computer up
[07:05] <delta> hybrid, any tutorial to configure it?
[07:05] <EnsignRedshirt> HappyFool: emacs?  Emacs is a damn fine operatiing system.  All it needs is a good editor.
[07:05] <hybrid> screen is the best WM
[07:05] <coolkev> so i went bakc to hoary
[07:06] <hybrid> delta: err check at novell.com
[07:06] <mips> necator: Nothing stops you from trying both. I did and ended up with gnome
[07:06] <necator> ive heard of kde from a firend but didnt know exsactly what he was talking about.
[07:06] <HappyFool> EnsignRedshirt: don't make me send the secret elisp army after you
[07:06] <coolkev> happyfool: the output -->
[07:06] <hybrid> delta: it supports nttp but no binarries
[07:06] <Stormx2> coolkev: in what way did it mess your computer up?
[07:06] <coolkev> http://pastebin.com/410088
[07:06] <nicholaspaul> necator - i have 3 or 4 on each machine. On startup you get a choice.
[07:06] <necator> what i dont like right now is this brown theme thing is it possible to make it look more fancy or is that what kde is for?
[07:06] <nicholaspaul> necator: depending on my mood!!
[07:06] <coolkev> my XVideo no longer works, Xchat and firefox crashed randomly
[07:06] <necator> nicholaspaul 3 or 4 of what? desktops?
[07:06] <Stormx2> IMHO, GNOME is better for beginners
[07:06] <thrush> art.gnome.org see faq default theme is little ugly imho
[07:06] <Stormx2> and experts as well
[07:06] <nicholaspaul> necator - you can change just about anything. - yes 3/4 desktops.
[07:06] <_jason> necator:  system > preferences > themes   gnomelook.org for more
[07:06] <EnsignRedshirt> HappyFool: Yeah, right, secret arm--CAR, CDDR, CONS,, arghhh....
[07:06] <thrush> necator:
[07:07] <iiiears> necator - KDE, Gnome, and XFCE4  have meta packages available in ubuntu (one click ssynaptic installations)
[07:07] <coolkev> they crashed randomly and frequestly
[07:07] <DaMouse> what kind of pornography viewing functionality does ubuntu have?
[07:07] <necator> damouse LMAO
[07:07] <necator> damouse it has the internet isnt that all you need?
[07:07] <nicholaspaul> necator: when you download KDE its called Kubuntu - with XFCE (a faster desktop) its called Xubuntu.
[07:07] <hybrid> DaMouse: no spyware
[07:07] <hybrid> :(
[07:07] <Stormx2> ubotu: tell necator about kde
[07:07] <necator> nichoalaspaul so kubuntu is like ubuntu installation but setting kde as default?
[07:07] <hybrid> DaMouse: apt-get install pornview
[07:07] <nicholaspaul> yes necator.
[07:07] <Stormx2> hybrid: lmao.
[07:08] <DaMouse> lol!
[07:08] <necator> nichoalaspaul cool.
[07:08] <MaestroTechie> When trying to add built-in kernel support for my SCSI card I get:  "This Feature depends on another which has been configured as a module. As a result, this feature will be built as a module"
[07:08] <delta> hybrid, sufficient for me :) thanks. Let me see your link on novell.
[07:08] <MaestroTechie> how do i find the dependency?
[07:08] <hybrid> delta: umm http://novell.com ?
[07:08] <HappyFool> coolkev: you've installed the libgnome2-dev package?
[07:08] <GigaClon> !XFCE
[07:08] <ubotu> xfce is probably a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[07:08] <DaMouse> man you guys are humourous sometimes..
[07:08] <nicholaspaul> necator oh yea! i particularly like the menu editor in kde. and the bouncy icons!!
[07:08] <necator> i installed so many firefox exstensions and a theme yesterday and now its like firefox is even more pimp
[07:08] <nicholaspaul> !fluxbox
[07:08] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fluxbox is forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net, or the new blackbox, with antialias, better menu, etc.
[07:09] <coolkev> happyfool let me check
[07:09] <nicholaspaul> necator: fluxbox is like a sleek, stealth version. little GUI but damned fast. KDE and Gnome are miles more user friendly tho.
[07:09] <necator> ill try kde
[07:09] <necator> how do i switch to it? do i got to reinstall ubuntu with kbuntu?
[07:09] <nicholaspaul> necator: one thing tho, you can run any app on any desktop. And its always worth learning to do stuff from the terminal.
[07:10] <HappyFool> coolkev: you'll also need libglade2-dev
[07:10] <Stormx2> necator: Check your messages from ubotu
[07:10] <Stormx2> !kde
[07:10] <ubotu> it has been said that kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:10] <HappyFool> coolkev: try enabled the deb-src lines in source.list, and do 'apt-get build-dep firestart'
[07:10] <coolkev> HappyFool: ok i'm installing them now
[07:10] <nicholaspaul> necator: no, once you have ubuntu, you can install as many desktops as you have HD space for. Then you select which one you want on login.
[07:10] <iiiears> Developers - Give Ubuntu a way to back up my "pimped" lol software tweaks for the next install.
[07:10] <DaMouse> ubuntu.org <-- not ubuntu is it.. >_<
[07:10] <coolkev> HappyFool I have the source download not the .deb
[07:10] <necator> brb
[07:10] <coolkev> for firestarter
[07:10] <DaMouse> how can I get that wrong.. i have a large stack of ubuntu disks right in front of me..
[07:10] <DaMouse> >_<
[07:11] <HappyFool> coolkev: i know; but 'apt-get build-dep' installs all build requirements
[07:11] <coolkev> ok
[07:11] <coolkev> thanks Happyfool
[07:11] <delta> hybrid, I'm very sorry, I don't understand. The link on novell deals about evolution?
[07:12] <hybrid> delta: no but you can search on novell or go to google and search "site:novell.com usenet evolution set up"
[07:12] <hybrid> novell makes evolution
[07:13] <linuxgeek2> yes novell make evolution and also gnome is developed
[07:13] <linuxgeek2> Here in bangalore india
[07:13] <BooZee> unkn0wn2u:  you here?
[07:14] <njan> Hey, does anyone have any idea as to where the scalable human icons from ubuntu (/usr/share/icons/human/scalable/*) come from and how they're licensed or where I might find out?
[07:16] <dm> Is there something WRONG with the Kubuntu install CD? tried 3 different downloads /burns of it and all of them come up with a "The debootstrap program exited with an error, (return Value of 1)
[07:16] <Riddell> dm: check MD5 sums on ISO file and CDs
[07:16] <kev_> so what's the deal with the gcc versions? why is the kernel compiled with 3.4.5 yet the build environment for breezy is 4.0? and why is 3.4 not at least co-installed?
[07:17] <dm> Riddell i  did and they all said they were fine
[07:17] <Boobek> hi
[07:17] <necator> on wiki.ubuntu.com should i be following the user documentation link or the ubuntu 5.10 starter guide? im tryin to work my way from top to bottom thru it. i was in userdocumentation yesterday is there any big differences?
[07:17] <erisco> i am so damn annoyed... everything i try to compile never works.
[07:18] <erisco> CVS spit out a bunch of errors
[07:18] <erisco> and they are not in the trouble shoot
[07:18] <Validdot> hello, is it useful to install and configure aide if ubuntu is used as a single user machine for internet, writing, gaming and etc.?
[07:19] <dm> riddell how do i do a MD5 checksum b4 i burn the cd?
[07:19] <Agrajag> md5sum file.iso
[07:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dm about verify
[07:19] <jorloff> Where does the "Add Applications" program put the files it downloads?  Specifically for the realplayer install
[07:20] <kbrooks> jorloff: not really important.
[07:20] <jorloff> "Debconf on ubuntu" wants to know the directory for p8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm and ive searched for it but cant find it
[07:20] <jorloff> or rather it says "realplayer has been downlaoded to where?"
[07:21] <nicholaspaul> anyone Wine users here? i got it installed, just trying to install a prog from CD...
[07:21] <edmondo> please help me. i wanna share my internet connection(i have ubuntu)  to another pc that it`s connected directly to mine and it runs windows on itwhat do i have to do??
[07:21] <bob2> jorloff: uh, you need to go find that yourself
[07:21] <bob2> nicholaspaul: just ask your question...
[07:21] <jonny> ok, so my in anything but GNOME, I cant see my mouse at the side of my screen when I drag it to the side! anyone know how to fix this?
[07:21] <bob2> edmondo: install firestarter, as you've been told to 14 times now
[07:21] <jorloff> ok. . . i searched using find files everywhere, but still no luck
[07:21] <nicholaspaul> how do i install a prog from CD using Wine (cos its a windows program)
[07:21] <jorloff> could the file not have been downloaded from the add applications program
[07:21] <bob2> jorloff: yes, it's not on your disk until you find it with google
[07:21] <bob2> jorloff: no
[07:21] <jorloff> ooook ok
[07:22] <jorloff> thanks later
[07:22] <bob2> nicholaspaul: mount the cd, then "wine /media/whatever/setup.exe"
[07:22] <Validdot> is it useful to install and configure aide for a single user internet ubuntu? (singeluser=only one pc, no local lan or something)
[07:22] <HaRDaWaY> hello
[07:22] <bob2> Validdot: no
[07:22] <luisito> hellos
[07:22] <nicholaspaul> tanks bob23
[07:22] <jonny> I have a question
[07:23] <nicholaspaul> bob2 even...
[07:23] <luisito> me too
[07:23] <absent> Ubuntu = Uber
[07:23] <bob2> jonny: it's not useful to keep asking over and over
[07:23] <bob2> jonny: if you're really sure the only thing you changed was using xfce instead of gnome, write to the ubuntu-users mailiung list and include your X log /var/log/Xorg.log and X config /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[07:24] <jackevorkian> how do i tell ubuntu breezy to start up beagle daemon and best at startup ?
[07:25] <Validdot> jonny: maybe your screen is just set up to 65 Hz and need to 70 Hz or something...
[07:25] <_jason> jackevorkian:  system->prefs->sessions maybe?
[07:25] <redeeman> hello
[07:25] <Boobek> hi
[07:25] <redeeman> im having a problem with gaim in ubuntu
[07:25] <morale> ln -sf /etc/init.d/beagle /etc/rc`runlevel | awk '{ print $2 }'`.d/S20beagle
[07:25] <luisito> I have a third hardrive and I want it to be read/write for both ubuntu and windows 'cause I want it to be a hardrive for media purposes only. How should I format it and how can I make it always be mounted in ubuntu?
[07:25] <morale> or something :)
[07:25] <redeeman> it doesent remember that i disable sounds
[07:25] <ubuntu> alguem do brasil
[07:25] <_jason> !pt
[07:25] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:26] <redeeman> luisito: then you need to format it fat32
[07:26] <nalioth> luisito: format it fat32 and then run this script
[07:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell luisito about mountwindows
[07:26] <Boobek> redeeman, see http://gaim.sf.net
[07:27] <redeeman> Boobek: i dont see any fix there
[07:27] <luisito> redeeman, nalioth, all right thank you :)
[07:27] <edmondo> bob2, how do i install firestarter?
[07:27] <dm> Grr whats the keyword for repos
[07:27] <jackevorkian> _jason: thanks
[07:27] <Boobek> redeeman: or preferences/Sounds . disable sounds
[07:27] <redeeman> Boobek: im saying it doesent remember that
[07:27] <_jason> jackevorkian:  you're welcome
[07:27] <Boobek> hm
[07:28] <Boobek> I dont know:p
[07:28] <BooZee> anybody knows a powerful sound editor program?
[07:28] <Validdot> BooZee: Audacity
[07:28] <_jason> BooZee:  have you tried audacity?
[07:28] <Agrajag> audacity is about the best on linux
[07:29] <BooZee> trying it at the moment. it's a bit simple for me. it doesn't have cd ripping
[07:29] <BooZee> for eg..
[07:29] <dm> So if i add repos from ubuntuguide.org, all i do is change the Hoary to breezy?
[07:29] <Validdot> BooZee: Ardour is also fine, but a sequenzer
[07:29] <jonny> does any1 no if gdesklets installs fine on ubuntu?
[07:29] <Belutz> nalioth, the instalation cd can't detect my cdrom that connected into raid-ide, but i can't boot from it, what should i do?
[07:29] <lunatech> yes, it did work for me johnnybezak
[07:30] <Boobek> bye
[07:31] <nicholaspaul> bob2 - if anyone else asks about Wine tell them I got it working great. I just couldnt install Scrabble because of a processor conflict, but thats ok :)
[07:31] <sylwae> qui f du php ?
[07:31] <Belutz> nalioth, thanks
[07:31] <Epix> Rosegarden. It records but doesnt play!
[07:31] <Reverendo> Hi
[07:31] <_jason> !fr
[07:31] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:31] <lunatech> jonny: it worked for me
[07:32] <sylwae> ubotu, oui j'ai vu que je me suis plant
[07:32] <ubotu> sylwae: Are you smoking crack?
[07:32] <lunatech> jonny: but I ddi not find anything very compelling in it
[07:32] <Reverendo> I've got a qustion..
[07:32] <DaMouse> hmm.. is ubuntu the OS for a ninja?
[07:32] <tritium> sylwae, /join #ubuntu-fr
[07:32] <jonny> lunatech: can you walk me through wow to install?
[07:32] <nalioth> sylwae: anglais ice, franais en #ubuntu-fr, svp
[07:32] <Belutz> hmmm i don't have a floppy disk :(
[07:32] <frank_b> I read that the x.org driver for ATI Radeon cards is one called "radeon", yet ubuntu installs me one called "ati". are they the same?
[07:33] <jonny> is it in synaptic?
[07:33] <kev_> anyone have a url explaining the decision to move to gcc-4.0?
[07:33] <tritium> !tell frank_b about ati
[07:33] <Reverendo> Can I donload the ubuntu 5.10 DVD version???
[07:33] <nalioth> Reverendo: surely you can
[07:33] <tritium> Revellion, what would stop you?
[07:34] <DaMouse> how much difference is ther ebetween version 5.04 and 5.10?
[07:34] <DaMouse> you dare say 0.06 and I killy you >_<
[07:34] <jonny> YES
[07:34] <lunatech> jonny i think you will find it in synaptic.  I installed it long back, don't remember if I did anything special to get it working
[07:34] <Reverendo> tritium: Cau you tell me the site for the DVD image??
[07:34] <Epix> DaMouse: there is exactly 14.894387843% diffrerence, to see it, use diff
[07:35] <RancidLM> hey all... im trying to install ubuntu but my cdrom is broken.. so using the current linux distro on this laptop.. iv copy'd the  linux kernel off the installer and the ramdisk (i think) but wheni try to boot to the installers kernel i get a kernel panic saying " not syncing: vfs: unable to mount root fs on uknow -block(0,0)" any ideas
[07:35] <jonny> it is
[07:35] <tritium> Reverendo, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/
[07:35] <DaMouse> Epix: well, I have a 5.04 CD.. and was wondering if I should beg for a 5.10 CD?
[07:35] <Zeike> Am I supposed to add sources to apt.sources? I can't even install gftp
[07:35] <nalioth> Reverendo: ubuntulinux.org/download
[07:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Zeike about repos
[07:35] <_jason> DaMouse:  why not just download 5.10?
[07:35] <nalioth> Zeike: add universe and multiverse
[07:35] <DaMouse> _jason: that's what I meant by beg.. parents..
[07:35] <Reverendo> Thank you
[07:36] <DaMouse> evil quake 4 playing parents..
[07:36] <brunocunha> alguem brasileiro
[07:36] <_jason> !pt
[07:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:36] <frank_b> brunocunha: um portugus aqui
[07:36] <Epix> How do i make Rosegarden play?! It doesnt have a MIDI out and the master out is going to alsa playback (in JACK)
[07:36] <frank_b> I read that the x.org driver for ATI Radeon cards is one called "radeon", yet ubuntu installs me one called "ati". are they the same?
[07:37] <tritium> !tell frank_b about ati
[07:37] <tritium> (again)
[07:37] <kbrooks> I would like to ...
[07:37] <dm> Can someone paste their /etc/apt/sources.list please
[07:37] <nicholaspaul> yes dm. one second
[07:37] <frank_b> tritium: thanks. but, from what I read, that doesn't answe my question...
[07:37] <DaMouse> !tell DaMouse about ati
[07:37] <kbrooks> clean out my ubuntu system
[07:37] <tritium> frank_b, they are not the same.  You need to determine what card you have.
[07:37] <frank_b> portugus
[07:38] <kbrooks> nicholaspaul: reminder: not here </reminder>, use rafb or #flood
[07:38] <DaMouse> _jason: is 5.10 that much diff from 5.04 tho?
[07:38] <frank_b> tritium: ah, ok. thanks
[07:38] <plork> hello all, can anyone tell me how to get an ati radeon x850 XT working with ubuntu? i read the ubuntu forums and there seems to be a bug associated with it
[07:38] <kbrooks> DaMouse: GNOME 2.12'
[07:38] <nicholaspaul> gotcha kbrooks - ive been there ;)
[07:38] <DaMouse> ooooh
[07:38] <DaMouse> Linux Format has a CD with that on..
[07:38] <tritium> kbrooks, what do you mean?
[07:38] <stefan_> nicholaspaul, is it for hoary... if it is can you paste it for me too?
[07:38] <kbrooks> tritium: "reinstall"
[07:39] <ubuntu> hello
[07:39] <_jason> DaMouse:  is the problem that your internet access is limited?  you can just upgrade 5.04 too
[07:39] <kbrooks> but not actually reinstall
[07:39] <frank_b> bye all
[07:39] <tritium> kbrooks, why would you do that?
[07:39] <frank_b> thanks tritium, bye
[07:39] <nicholaspaul> stefan - no i have breezy. You might be able to find a hoary sources list on the forum
[07:39] <tritium> see you frank_b
[07:39] <frank_b> cya
[07:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dm about sources
[07:39] <DaMouse> _jason: no the problem is people complain if I use bandwidth for too long >_<
[07:40] <kbrooks> tritium: di what?
[07:40] <DaMouse> how come nobody ever says 'please' to the bot btw?
[07:40] <tritium> reinstall?
[07:40] <_jason> !botsnack
[07:40] <ubotu> thanks _jason :)
[07:40] <DaMouse> hmmm I dunno..
[07:40] <nicholaspaul> lol @ _jason
[07:40] <DaMouse> aww
[07:40] <jbroome> we can't have the bot thinking we like him
[07:40] <DaMouse> how cute!
[07:40] <kbrooks> tritium: I'm on Breezy, and the system is all messy
[07:40] <nicholaspaul> !botbeer
[07:40] <ubotu> nicholaspaul: I give up, what is it?
[07:40] <demolidor> tem alguma brasileira ou alguem que fale portugues
[07:40] <nicholaspaul> !beer
[07:40] <tritium> !pt
[07:40] <ubotu> Wish i knew, nicholaspaul
[07:40] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:40] <nicholaspaul> i'm done.
[07:40] <tritium> kbrooks, not sure I know what you mean...
[07:41] <fortran01> !botsmile
[07:41] <ubotu> fortran01: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:41] <fortran01> this is fun!
[07:41] <Korio> I have installed Opera, but it complains about  Motif not being installed when i start it up. I cant find motif in the repos. any ideas?
[07:41] <demolidor> tem brasileiros?????????????????
[07:41] <nalioth> !botabuse
[07:41] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[07:41] <tritium> !tell demolidor about pt
[07:41] <DaMouse> how big is the 5.10 CD ISO and how many CDs and how good are they as frisbees?
[07:41] <nalioth> demolidor: ^^^^^^
[07:41] <kbrooks> tritium: messy -> i upgraded from warty to hoary, and from hoary to breezy
[07:41] <nalioth> DaMouse: they suck as frisbees, use AOL cds instead
[07:41] <kbrooks> DaMouse: huge, 1, not good
[07:41] <tritium> kbrooks, debian/ubuntu are designed to be upgradeable
[07:41] <Korio> I have installed Opera, but it complains about  Motif not being installed when i start it up. I cant find motif in the repos. any ideas?
[07:42] <dm> nicholaspaul did you paste and i not see it?
[07:42] <kbrooks> tritium: I am not a newbie
[07:42] <tritium> Korio, please don't repeat
[07:42] <_jason> DaMouse:  I think 5.10 is worth it personally, ask for a couple of hours for the upgrade... shouldn't even take that long iirc
[07:42] <nicholaspaul> no dm, i thot you wanted a hoary sources.list - i have breezy
[07:42] <DaMouse> _jason: this is a clean install
[07:42] <tritium> I know, kbrooks.  You're so expert with ubuntu, you even use it on the toilet ;)
[07:42] <kbrooks> tritium: all i want to do is cleanup the system
[07:42] <Korio> tritium: ok OP
[07:42] <sine> Hi all, excuse me for being such a newbie, but can someone please tell me how to prevent XWindows from starting at boot up? I guess it has something to do with init.d or something, I just can figure out what exactly.
[07:42] <demolidor> brasileiros
[07:42] <iiiears> lol
[07:43] <tritium> kbrooks, :)
[07:43] <kbrooks> tritium: Any ideas?
[07:43] <DaMouse> nalioth: my mum told me not to throw AOL disks in the house... I smashed something >_<
[07:43] <_jason> demolidor: /j #ubuntu-br
[07:43] <iiiears> sine - at the login screen change the default session and then select make default when it asks
[07:43] <kbrooks> tritium: Any ideas?
[07:43] <tritium> sine, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[07:44] <nalioth> demolidor: tipea /j #ubuntu-br
[07:44] <DaMouse> what kind of minor kinks are there in ubuntu btw?
[07:44] <kbrooks> tritium: i'm not a expert in ubuntu.
[07:44] <nalioth> DaMouse: you cant install it into your wetware, yet
[07:44] <DaMouse> wet..ware..?
[07:44] <jonny> lunatech: i thought it was like a dock like on OSX but for linux?!?
[07:45] <sine> iiiears and tritium: thanks a lot, I'll try those things out!
[07:45] <nalioth> DaMouse: wetware = your brain
[07:45] <DaMouse> ah
[07:45] <DaMouse> whassat?
[07:45] <Korio> tritium: ok OP
[07:46] <Korio> Does anyone here run Opera on breezy?
[07:46] <tritium> Korio, I saw the first time
[07:46] <Korio> tritium: i was supposed to repeat my opera messege... but failed
[07:46] <DaMouse> how do you spell continuem?
[07:46] <tritium> kbrooks, you can use debfoster, deborphan
[07:47] <tritium> kbrooks, you can apt-get clean, if you want to clean out your /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:47] <hawking> Can i get Linux Gazettes from repositories?
[07:47] <tritium> Korio, but I just asked you nicely not to repeat
[07:47] <nalioth> hawking: yes you can
[07:47] <nalioth> DaMouse: continuum
[07:47] <DaMouse> wow..
[07:47] <hawking> nalioth: how can i dl all the gazettes up to now?
[07:47] <tritium> hawking, apt-cache search gazette
[07:47] <kbrooks> tritium: nope. there is too much here
[07:47] <Korio> tritium: yea well.. as no one that knew didnt see it / reply i thought i could repeat it
[07:48] <guerric> slt
[07:48] <DaMouse> that just doesn't work in my head
[07:48] <kbrooks> on the system
[07:48] <guerric> fuck you
[07:48] <nalioth> hawking: search in synaptic
[07:48] <DaMouse> guerric: me next please!
[07:48] <DaMouse> damnit..
[07:48] <DaMouse> :(
[07:48] <yohan>  I just installed ubuntu but my refreshrate is stuck at 60hz and
[07:48] <yohan>                I need it to be at 76hz, how do i configure this? I cant see it
[07:48] <yohan>                under the system->change resolution
[07:48] <yohan> ups
[07:48] <yohan> sorry i pasted
[07:48] <DaMouse> :O
[07:48] <DaMouse> GET HIM!
[07:48] <yohan> anyways thats my question :D
[07:48] <nalioth> i hate those people that speak out and leave
[07:48] <tritium> he apologized
[07:48] <DaMouse> tritium: but.. the pitchforks..
[07:49] <yohan> im sorry, i was at ubuntu at efnet...then realized it was the wrong net
[07:49] <tritium> no problem, yohan :)
[07:49] <yohan> they wrote i should search for help here :)
[07:49] <nalioth> yohan: what a surprise, eh?
[07:49] <yohan> thanks :)
[07:49] <nicholaspaul> dm you still need that breezy sources.list?
[07:49] <onkarshinde> Hoe good is theora as compared to mpeg? Does it save space?
[07:49] <onkarshinde> Can I convert files from CVD to theora?
[07:49] <onkarshinde> I mean VCD
[07:49] <yohan> anyways if somebody could point me in the right direction it would be helpful :)
[07:49] <thrush> yohan: im sure someone has a link but google xorg.conf and horizontal and verticle settings
[07:50] <_jason> nalioth:  was there tab completion error on that ban or did I miss something?
[07:50] <thrush> yohan: they will be specific to your monitor
[07:50] <yohan> I thought i could just edit xorg.conf but when i tried that i did the vert. from 50 to 76 but i still end up choosing only between 60 and 75
[07:50] <DaMouse> so what kind of small problems have people had with Ubuntu?
[07:50] <yohan> ah
[07:50] <DaMouse> just so i can see what i might come up against..
[07:50] <tritium> !tell yohan about resolution
[07:50] <nalioth> _jason: you missed nothing, and it wasn't a ban
[07:51] <yohan> i have a rare sun monitor and i couldnt google any direct specs :/, but im suppose to run at 76hz cause else the resolution will be all weird
[07:51] <nalioth> DaMouse: it doesnt work on 8088 boxen
[07:51] <erisco> how long should it take cedega to compile?
[07:51] <_jason> nalioth:  oops ok
[07:51] <erisco> it has probable been going for 10 minutes now
[07:51] <DaMouse> nalioth: ok.. I recall before there was like.. a uhm.. chmod thingy that needed doing?
[07:51] <Coburn> i have just tried to upgrade my distro preview to candidate but console say me    cavallari@ubuntu:~$ apt-get distr-upgrade
[07:51] <Coburn> E: Invalid operation distr-upgrade
[07:51] <yohan> thanks guys
[07:51] <yohan> ill read up :)
[07:51] <nalioth> DaMouse: chmods are up to you
[07:51] <Coburn> why????
[07:51] <DaMouse> nalioth: there was one specific thing i kinda remember.. for user areas or something
[07:52] <thrush> yohan: rare hardware + linux..my condolences
[07:52] <erisco> just finished the compile, never mind. thanks very much anyways.
[07:52] <DaMouse> I've used rare hardware and linux
[07:52] <nalioth> DaMouse: nothing major, it "just works" most of the time
[07:52] <onkarshinde> anybody had problem while dist-upgrade? In my case some packages weren't accessible from CD. Although I could copy them manually to cache folder.
[07:52] <DaMouse> just caused the fluxtuation stabilisation matrix to imploade >_<
[07:52] <Validdot> Coburn: use sudo apt-get and then dist-upgrade
[07:52] <Validdot> Coburn: in one line
[07:52] <onkarshinde> Surprisingly these packages were releated to nvidia. And I have a ATI card.
[07:53] <DaMouse> nalioth: okay then.. since it's linux I can hack anybody with it right? like my mate on msn whose annoying me?
[07:54] <nalioth> DaMouse: hmmm. i buy a hammer from the hardware store. since it's a blunt instrument i can smash car windows can't i?
[07:54] <Coburn85>  i have just tried to upgrade my distro preview to candidate but console say me    cavallari@ubuntu:~$ apt-get distr-upgrade
[07:54] <Coburn85> Coburn E: Invalid operation distr-upgrade
[07:54] <nalioth> Coburn85: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[07:54] <DaMouse> nalioth: I find that using like one of those picks that ice climbers use works better..
[07:55] <Validdot> Coburn with apt-get -h you can get the list with all commands
[07:55] <gean> c u soon, ubuntu world !
[07:55] <erisco> when i try to start cedega, the command cvscedega does not work. bash is not found.
[07:55] <absent> is there any way to use photo shop?
[07:55] <erisco> why is this? is there a way i can fix it?
[07:56] <absent> photoshop*
[07:56] <thrush> absent: gimpshop
[07:56] <erisco> absent, it is very hard and I am trying very hard
[07:56] <absent> gimp cant compare
[07:56] <erisco> absent, gimpshop is a linux image editor, and i agree it cannot compare
[07:56] <absent> its better than fireworks but no photoshop
[07:56] <absent> oh ok
[07:57] <erisco> i have tried compiling gimpshop, but i am getting errors. see if you can compile it yourself
[07:57] <erisco> search google for gimpshop
[07:57] <Validdot> is it true that it's  not possible (or hardly) to make JACK run prober with ubuntu? Did someone solve? I can't find something helpful..
[07:57] <nick01> how long does it take to get the ubuntu cds since u ordered them ?
[07:57] <erisco> there will be a site called plastic bugs
[07:57] <tritium> absent, you can run photoshop with wine
[07:57] <nalioth> absent: erisco: you guys seen the latest cvs gimp? you'll be pleased at the new features
[07:57] <erisco> yes that it the second option
[07:57] <Korio> If i run deborphan --zero-keep does that remove all unused libs?
[07:57] <tritium> winetools can help you configure it pretty well
[07:57] <Orunitia> I tried a while ago to get gimpshop, but I ended up reinstalling regular gimp because it killed gimp
[07:57] <absent> wine hasent been wanting to work for me
[07:58] <erisco> nalioth, hmm?
[07:58] <tritium> absent, perhaps try wine and winetools from winehq.com, then
[07:58] <nick01> nobody here ordered those free cds ?
[07:58] <nicholaspaul> absent i wouldnt talk to nalioth about Wine... Youd be better of asking Jerry Seinfeld how to cook pork.
[07:58] <mifritscher> hi
[07:58] <erisco> nalioth, if it looks more like photoshop i will be happy
[07:58] <_jason> nick01:  a couple of months is what I hear
[07:58] <Validdot> nick01: I ordered two and gave them away
[07:59] <absent> lol
[07:59] <erisco> now how do i run cedega for the first time?
[07:59] <nick01> a couple of months :/
[07:59] <Validdot> nick01: it took aprx one month
[07:59] <mifritscher> what should I use: ubuntu + kde or kubuntu? I've already experience with debian
[07:59] <nick01> k
[07:59] <erisco> i am trying and it is not working
[07:59] <nick01> tks
[07:59] <erisco> cvscedega
[07:59] <nalioth> erisco: go check out the latest cvs at www.gimp.org (gettin it to look like photoshop is old news)
[07:59] <erisco> why wont it work
[07:59] <Korio> Does anyone here run Opera
[07:59] <nick01> where are they sent from ?
[07:59] <nalioth> Korio: yes we do. lots of us
[07:59] <nalioth> Korio: ask your question
[08:00] <Korio> nalioth: It complains about motif
[08:00] <absent> i got wine to run nice on fedora
[08:00] <jbroome> yeah, but you had to run fedora.
[08:00] <wut> Hey, I'm wondering how I would use NDISWrapper to work with a WiFi USB device I have.
[08:00] <stefan_> nick01, I got those in 4 weeks
[08:00] <nalioth> Korio: install libmotif-dev
[08:00] <erisco> nalioth... i fail to locate what you are saying
[08:00] <nick01> where were the cds sent from ?
[08:01] <stefan_> I don't knoe
[08:01] <Korio> nalioth: okay
[08:01] <Validdot> nick01: england, I think
[08:01] <nick01> it didn't say on the package ?
[08:01] <nick01> Validdot: and u're from germany - k
[08:01] <stefan_> nick01, maybe it was on the package but I didn't look or don't remember
[08:01] <Korio> nalioth: are you kidding thats a lot of  stuff, even compilers i dont need or want that
[08:01] <Validdot> nick01: but sure this depends where you are from
[08:01] <stefan_> but it took 4 weeks to helsinki
[08:01] <nick01> stefan_: I c
[08:01] <tritium> nick01, Switzerland
[08:02] <erisco> nalioth, can i not just update gimp to the new version you are talking about?
[08:02] <nick01> Romania here
[08:02] <tritium> it doesn't matter where you're from, they ship from the same place
[08:02] <nalioth> erisco: no. you'll have to build this one, if you want it http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS
[08:02] <Validdot> I wonder if it is legal if people sell 50 CD packs with live and install on e-Bay for a couple of bucks.
[08:02] <nick01> tritium: from england u mean ?
[08:03] <Sionide> !realplayer
[08:03] <ubotu> realplayer is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:03] <absent> i like ubuntu's "compatability"
[08:03] <tritium> nick01, no, Switzerland
[08:03] <absent> near nothing works
[08:03] <nick01> Validdot: said they were from england
[08:03] <nalioth> Validdot: it is
[08:03] <tritium> absent, not at all true
[08:04] <nalioth> tritium: my package of discs came from the netherlands
[08:04] <tritium> that's not where my CDs were shipped from, nick01
[08:04] <absent> tritium it seems like alot of the packages say "not availiable
[08:04] <erisco> nalioth, will the eventually support this version for ubuntu? maybe i can just wait
[08:04] <nick01> so they ship them from all over the map
[08:04] <erisco> nalioth, my luck with compiling is limited
[08:04] <absent> tritium whenever i open the new applications thing
[08:04] <tritium> absent, do you have your repositories setup?  give me an example?
[08:04] <nalioth> erisco: gimp is easy to compile, so is gimpshop
[08:04] <absent> 1 sec
[08:05] <tritium> absent, try using synaptic package manager
[08:05] <Korio> How do i run a USB device detector without reboot?
[08:05] <nalioth> erisco: and yes, it will eventually appear here
[08:05] <masa> hello everyone, I got a little problem whith automount of removable devices after upgrading from Hoary to Breezy...
[08:05] <zack> so, i need to run various apps in different locales - i installed, for example, language-pack-fr, but 'LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 gedit' still uses english. what am i missing?
[08:05] <erisco> nalioth, gimpshop is very hard to compile... i just cannot get it to work
[08:05] <stefan_> I'm downloading azureus... There's linux GTK, linux Motif, linux PPC... And I don't know what those mean... I have hoary hedgehog, which of those should i download?
[08:06] <masa> The removable device is mounted correctly but after one second it is unmounted again... "manager.c/1896: Unmounted: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_uuid_1B6F_17E8" Does anyone know what can be wrong?
[08:06] <erisco> nalioth, there is no help guides for the errors i am getting with compiling gimpshop
[08:06] <ptlo> stefan_, linux gtk
[08:06] <stefan_> ptlo, thanks
[08:06] <nick01> stefan_: linux gtk
[08:06] <Korio> How do i run a USB device detector without reboot?
[08:06] <plork> I am having kernel panic issues with an k8-smp kenerl on amd64 Opteron x2 :(
[08:06] <absent> tritium nvm if i turn on the universe mirrors it all works
[08:06] <absent> tritium sry
[08:06] <erisco> nalioth, and if gimp is as hard to compile as gimpshop... i mean i crashed my whole system and had to reformat
[08:06] <nalioth> erisco: http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/
[08:06] <absent> tritium i just got this last night
[08:06] <tritium> absent, good :)
[08:07] <erisco> nalioth, already looked at it. didn't even bother, i just got the required libraries
[08:07] <nalioth> erisco: this is the best howto i've found on gimpshop
[08:07] <ptlo> stefan_, gtk means it's using GTK+ & GNOME environment, which is default on ubuntu (on kubuntu it's KDE); linux motif is a safe bet when you don't have any advanced environments, linux ppc is for linux boxes on powerpc processor
[08:07] <erisco> nalioth, when i tried that the first time that is when i toasted my system
[08:07] <necator> im back
[08:07] <nalioth> erisco: i had 0 problems with it
[08:07] <necator> darn i missed answer to my question ill ask again =(
[08:07] <necator> on wiki.ubuntu.com should i be following the user documentation link or the ubuntu 5.10 starter guide? im tryin to work my way from top to bottom thru it. i was in userdocumentation yesterday is there any big differences?
[08:07] <erisco> nalioth, your lucky then
[08:08] <mth`MAW> Hi boys and girls ;)
[08:08] <nalioth> necator: which 'starter guide' ?
[08:08] <erisco> nalioth, so instead of following that guide, i just kept running config and only getting the libs i needed, instead of getting the whole program
[08:08] <Aven> hello!
[08:08] <erisco> but i still had errors
[08:08] <mth`MAW> Someone here how know something about Kino (DV-Editor)
[08:08] <Aven> what's a good media player for ubuntu?
[08:08] <mth`MAW> ?
[08:08] <erisco> aven, music player
[08:09] <mth`MAW> Aven mplayer
[08:09] <nalioth> erisco: the gimpshop guide is there for a reason, and if you follow it step by step, it works.
[08:09] <masa> hello everyone, I got a little problem whith automount of removable devices after upgrading from Hoary to Breezy, anyone that knows anything about the automounting in GNOME?
[08:09] <thrush> Aven: vlc if u dont want to worry about codecs and such
[08:09] <erisco> nalioth, when i followed it step by step i had problems in every step
[08:09] <necator> nalioth the one on wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:09] <erisco> nalioth, this is no joke
[08:09] <nickakavic> vlc is the best media player
[08:09] <Aven> hmm
[08:09] <Aven> well
[08:10] <Aven> I just want a media player that will save and burn music
[08:10] <bam_> anyone know where my xintric file is located?
[08:10] <nalioth> erisco: i've sent lots of folks to that howto, and had none have any trouble
[08:10] <nalioth> bam_: in your home directory
[08:10] <erisco> nalioth, i wish i didn't either
[08:10] <absent> tritium well now that i can get everything this seems like a much better os choice than I previously though. If only it had photoshop ;_;
[08:10] <erisco> nalioth, regardless i have everything from that guide needed
[08:10] <bam_> hmm looked there....must have missed it
[08:10] <mth`MAW> bam_: type locate xintric
[08:10] <erisco> nalioth, i have all the libs
[08:10] <nalioth> erisco: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[08:11] <erisco> nalioth, what is wrong?
[08:11] <nalioth> erisco: would you like to get it working?
[08:11] <bam_> locate returned nothing
[08:11] <tritium> absent, there's still wine & winetools at winehq.com that you can try (they even have a .deb repo, and instructions for ubuntu)
[08:11] <mth`MAW> None working with Kino?
[08:11] <Aven> how can I stop that random ubuntu noise?
[08:11] <erisco> yes i would desperately. i also just got cedega... to see if it would run photoshop
[08:11] <Aven> it happens every couple of minutes...
[08:11] <erisco> but i cannot find the command to run it
[08:12] <tritium> Aven, random?  is it additive white gaussian noise?  that's unavoidable...
[08:12] <theconartist> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[08:12] <bam_> i dont have a xintric file, how wierd
[08:13] <tritium> theconartist, did you "sudo apt-get install build-essential" already?
[08:13] <bam_> bbs
[08:13] <nick01> do they ship kubuntu cds too ?
[08:13] <bake> n?
[08:15] <DaMouse> my name is DaMouse :)
[08:17] <tomek_> hello! nautilus doesn't let me open some files if they have a different extension than they should (according to nautilus). is it possible to disable this feature?
[08:17] <bluefrog-10> !plf
[08:17] <ubotu> bluefrog-10: Are you smoking crack?
[08:17] <yohan> i fixed it :D, I have another fairly stupid question tho...i tried apt-get install aterm but it didnt seem to find it, do i need to do anything before using apt-get?
[08:18] <tritium> yohan, it's in universe
[08:18] <yohan> universe?
[08:18] <masa> hello everyone, I got a little problem whith automount of removable devices after upgrading from Hoary to Breezy, anyone that knows anything about the automounting in GNOME?
[08:18] <yohan> do i need to reconfigure it so i see all packages?
[08:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell yohan about repos
[08:18] <yohan> thnx
[08:19] <nalioth> yohan: enable universe and multiverse
[08:19] <yohan> k
[08:19] <DaMouse> sooo
[08:19] <DaMouse> what do you guys do for fun?
[08:19] <bmk789> masa: whats your problem?
[08:19] <masa> The removable device is mounted correctly but after one second it is unmounted again... "manager.c/1896: Unmounted: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_uuid_1B6F_17E8" Does anyone know what can be wrong?
[08:20] <masa> bmk789: The removable device is mounted correctly but after one second it is unmounted again... "manager.c/1896: Unmounted: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_uuid_1B6F_17E8" Does anyone know what can be wrong?
[08:20] <masa> bmk789: worked just fine in hoary
[08:21] <pmfp> I've been searching gconf and ~/.evolution, but can't find my saved password... where is it?
[08:21] <pmfp> (it takes a week to order a new one, and I need this to access the university's proxy server)
[08:21] <nalioth> DaMouse: fun chat belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:22] <Camuflage> hey all
[08:22] <bmk789> anyone know mounting?
[08:22] <bmk789> looks like me and masa could use some help
[08:23] <ubuntu> hey everyone
[08:23] <tomek_> for example nautilus doesn't want to open an xpm image because it looks him like a text file. and YES, xpm IS a textual format!
[08:23] <Camuflage> i have a litle problem with lilo, it doesn't show a menu to choose goes straight to linux i need help to configure
[08:23] <thrush> omg hey ubuntu!
[08:23] <FireCat> Has anyone upgraded a hoary install to breezy.  If so was there a link you followed to do it?
[08:23] <Sionide> anyone know how i can stop audio in xine lagging from the video?
[08:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell FireCat about breezy
[08:23] <ubuntu> !tell FireCat about breezy
[08:23] <masa> bmk789: I'm reading about the gnome-volume-manager but no luck so far...
[08:23] <ubuntu> Sionide killall xine
[08:23] <Zeep> Hi - I have a problem with the NoMachine NX Client (Breezy)
[08:24] <Camuflage> anyone able to help me with lilo configuration pvt me plz
[08:24] <Sionide> :/
[08:24] <yohan> thnx guys
[08:24] <SilverMaster> i have a problem, i have no more cd-rws and no floppy disks left, but i need to get the driver for my dialup modem, i tried mounting but ntfs is read only so i can't actually get the file.. any suggestions?
[08:24] <bmk789> masa: its too crowded here, come to #mount
[08:24] <nick01> ubuntu: so u're the guy in charge or u just registered the name before everybody else ? :)
[08:24] <Zeep> When I try to connect, I get a "Unable to create the X autorization cookie" - it is definitively a local problem, as everything goes fine using my SuSE-Box
[08:24] <bmk789> anyone else that can help with mounting come to #mount
[08:24] <Zeep> Can anybody give me a pointer?
[08:25] <ubuntu> Zeep ask on #suse
[08:25] <Zeep> ubuntu: The problem persists on my Ubuntu-Box
[08:25] <foampeace> hi
[08:25] <foampeace> im having problems with my keyboard
[08:25] <Zeep> ubuntu: As I pointed out, it is a local problem, as everything goes fine if I try to connect using my SuSE box ;-)
[08:25] <SilverMaster> i have a problem, i have no more cd-rws and no floppy disks left, but i need to get the driver for my dialup modem, i tried mounting the windows partition because i can access the net from there but ntfs is read only so i can't actually get the file.. any suggestions?
[08:25] <thrush> Camuflage: lilo? basically just edit lilo.conf and then run lilo or just edit the lilo.conf under sbin. yes i know not very helpful ;)
[08:25] <foampeace> i have these smaller keyboards without the numpad
[08:26] <nalioth> SilverMaster: drag the file from your read-only ntfs onto your linux partition
[08:26] <foampeace> keyboard seems to be working but its not working properly in games
[08:26] <foampeace> like quake3
[08:26] <SilverMaster> won't let me access from outside of root terminal, says i don't have permission, yet i'm root
[08:26] <Camuflage> yep, i am newbie in linux thrush
[08:26] <Zeep> No FreeNX-Users in here?
[08:27] <thrush> Camuflage: by default ubuntu uses grub you want to switch to lilo?
[08:27] <Camuflage> no, i've instaled lilo in masterboot
[08:27] <bmk789> anyone whos experienced with mounting drives, please come to #mount
[08:27] <Camuflage> grub was giving a problem with bios
[08:28] <SilverMaster> nalioth: won't let me access from outside of root terminal, says i don't have permission, yet i'm root
[08:28] <Camuflage> i know i need to edit lilo.config but don't know or understand how to do it
[08:28] <dm> Im having a hell of a time setting up my wireless networking with my new install and after switching to KDE, i cant change my WEP key, anyone have any suggestions
[08:29] <nalioth> SilverMaster: even to 'cp' it?
[08:29] <ubuntu> Camuflage nano /etc/lilo.conf
[08:29] <Zeep> I found a solution - the NoMachine-binary is not compatible with breezy. But there are repackages available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/freenx/
[08:29] <GigaClon>  I'm having an issue... how do I take screenshots on linux that include the cursor?
[08:29] <GigaClon> GNOME
[08:29] <ubuntu> GigaClon with gimp
[08:29] <ttypah> hi there... i'm trying to sample some audio stuff but i'm getting nothing from my mic
[08:29] <ttypah> can anyone point me to some doc
[08:29] <ttypah> ?
[08:29] <ubuntu> ttypah www.ubuntu.com
[08:30] <CarmenSandiego> Hello everyone!!! :)
[08:30] <ubuntu> !tell ttypah about adio
[08:30] <ubuntu> !tell ttypah about audio
[08:30] <Camuflage> ubuntu, and then?
[08:30] <ubuntu> !tell ttypah about mic
[08:31] <SilverMaster> nalioth mounted into the folder "/Desktop/Windows", so then when i try to click from the desktop it tells me i don't have permission, i tried mv from root terminal, and got the read-only error
[08:31] <CarmenSandiego> Is GLADE better than Qt?
[08:31] <SilverMaster> i mounted*
[08:31] <thrush> Camuflage: been a while since i fooled with lilo i'd googe for some examples of the file and the insert your partition info after you edit type lilo to update the real lilo.conf under sbin
[08:31] <Camuflage> i've done that thing of -> nano /etc/lilo.conf
[08:32] <Camuflage> it appeared a text all uncoment... don't know what to do next
[08:32] <nalioth> SilverMaster: learn the terminal
[08:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell SilverMaster about cli
[08:33] <FireCat> CarmenSandiego:  Glade isn't even remotely the same thing as qt
[08:33] <SilverMaster> nalioth: i know the basic commands :P i use linux shells for IRC
[08:33] <FireCat> CarmenSandiego: The thing you want to compare it gtk+ to qt
[08:34] <nalioth> SilverMaster: then use the terminal to visit your file and 'cp' it to your linux $homedir
[08:34] <budluva> can someone point me in the direction for a correct HOWTO on installing the nvidia driver for a tnt2? i've found some then found out they dont work and then someone tells me that its obsolete and to try this one, and it doesnt work, i just want my graphics card to work :(
[08:34] <SilverMaster> k, thanks, gonna log into linux now
[08:34] <dm> Anyone have any experience with Ndiswrapper
[08:35] <stpere> dm, got it working here
[08:35] <dm> stpere does it work?
[08:36] <stpere> dm, on my Broadcom chipset, it does
[08:36] <KinkoBlast> Is it posable to leave a program running while I'm logged out?
[08:36] <juanjo> I'm using the install cd for the version 5.04. everything goes fine until the packages are installed. The laptop (an IBM Thinkpad 600X) hungs in the line: "Configuring powernowd (0.90-3ubuntu14)...". Any idea about what can be happening?
[08:37] <KinkoBlast> Juanjo: Incompatable power supply is my guess.
[08:37] <dm> stpere whats the command to start it?
[08:38] <KinkoBlast> Juanjo: But I'm by no means an expert.
[08:38] <stpere> dm, you need to use the ndiswrapper command to install your driver
[08:38] <stpere> then, when you're ready, you modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:38] <necator> where do i change my desktop gui?
[08:38] <mifritscher> juanjo, try to diable powernow in the bios
[08:38] <nalioth> necator: you mean from gnome to kde?
[08:38] <necator> precisely nalioth.
[08:38] <dm> stpere i have a Intel Pro/Wireless 2915 , can i install it with the EXE?
[08:38] <nalioth> necator: in your login screen, click on 'sessions'
[08:38] <djbrieck> can someone point me to the link on how to set up 5.04 to update itself to 5.10
[08:39] <necator> everyone was telling me about kde earlier so i want to try it.
[08:39] <Korio> How can get Opera plugins to work? It tells me to install Motif but I cant find it
[08:39] <necator> will i have to reinstall my programs nalioth?
[08:39] <nalioth> necator: why?
[08:39] <necator> for going ot kde?
[08:39] <stpere> dm, you can extract (run) the EXE with wine to get the .inf and .sys files
[08:39] <KinkoBlast> Necator: You need to instal kubunt-desktop
[08:39] <Dave> how do i install java into the browser in ubuntu 5.04
[08:39] <necator> kinkoblast what does that do?
[08:39] <juanjo> KinkoBlast, powernowd is "a very simple program that will adjust the speed of your CPU depending on system load"
[08:39] <nalioth> necator: nothing needs to be reinstalled, all your programs will be there
[08:39] <pramz> with most of the driver exe's i was able to unzip them since they all seem to be self extracting zip files
[08:39] <stpere> dm, or you could run it in Windows and keep the temporary directory
[08:39] <juanjo> mifritscher, i'll try that...
[08:39] <HeMan> Hi! Any tip what window-manager to use on a tablet pc without keyboard?
[08:40] <necator> nalioth will they be pretty much in the same place also?
[08:40] <KinkoBlast> necator: It's the package that has KDE in it!
[08:40] <nalioth> necator: try switching. if you dont like it, log out and back into your usual session
[08:40] <HeMan> i currently running xfce, but it doesn't work that well with only one mouse-button (touch-screen)
[08:40] <FireCat> djbrieck: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:40] <KinkoBlast> Nalioth: I don't think Necator has KDE installed!
[08:40] <ranf> HeMan, matchbox?
[08:41] <Korio> How can get Opera plugins to work? It tells me to install Motif but I cant find it
[08:41] <Dave> can any one help me instal java into my web browser in ubuntu 5.01?
[08:41] <nalioth> necator: do you have kubuntu installed?
[08:41] <jesse_> Dave: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[08:41] <stefan_> Korio, http://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/install/motif/ does that help?
[08:41] <Dave> thanks
[08:42] <jesse_> no problem
[08:42] <KinkoBlast> Is it posable to leave a program running while I'm logged out?
[08:42] <dm> is there an apt-get for opera?
[08:42] <Korio> stefan_: nope it complains about xlib
[08:42] <KinkoBlast> dm: Check with apt-cache search opera
[08:42] <djbrieck> thank you firecat
[08:42] <hussam> I stupidly installed realplayer 1.0.6 using .bin installer. Is there anyway I can get rid of it?
[08:43] <Korio> stefan_: xlib6g to be exact
[08:43] <stpere> HeMan, you could investigate PDA oriented Desktop Mangers
[08:43] <dm> Kinkblast nope :(
[08:43] <stpere> HeMan, http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5966737838.html is an example
[08:43] <Stricklin> I'm having trouble getting this [http://xplanet.sourceforge.net/FAQ.php#gnome2]  to work. Would someone help me?
[08:43] <yohan> anyone know in what package the command-line command ll is in?
[08:43] <bmk789> doesnt anyone in here know mounting?
[08:44] <KinkoBlast> Has anyone had any luck getting Oddballz working in wine?
[08:44] <KinkoBlast> !tell bmk789 about automount
[08:44] <FireCat> yohan: I think that ll is an alias not a command, or something like that
[08:44] <matthew_w> Hey - I'm having an odd problem, I am installing ubuntu on an older computer that doesn't support cd booting, so I threw the hdd from it into a new computer and installed ubuntu on it with the GRUB loader, however, when I put the hdd back in the old computer and boot, grub returned "Cannot mount selected filesystem" or something similar - why?
[08:44] <KinkoBlast> !tell bmk789 about mount
[08:44] <yohan> ah yeah..
[08:44] <yohan> ls -l
[08:44] <colen> can someone give me a quick hand with something?
[08:44] <yohan> thanks...im so stupid
[08:44] <borgista> colen: sure
[08:45] <borgista> colen: what is it?
[08:45] <joh6nn> matthew_w: grub's working with the partition and drive set up from the other machine
[08:45] <joh6nn> that you installed on
[08:45] <colen> I am a new ubuntu, well new linux user.  I just installed unbuntu, and would like to changae permissions on a file
[08:45] <colen> how do I log in as root
[08:45] <colen> I do not know the password
[08:45] <colen> I was never asked for a root password during install
[08:45] <matthew_w> joh6nn; ah I thought ahead though, so i installed /dev/hda and /dev/hdb into grub
[08:45] <pramz> you can set the root passwd using sudo
[08:45] <KinkoBlast> Colen: You don't need to!
[08:45] <joh6nn> you'll need to get into the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and change it to reflect the drive & partition set up of the machine it's currently on
[08:45] <matthew_w> so I don't think that's it.
[08:45] <pramz> sudo passwd root
[08:45] <Agrajag> colen: use sudo
[08:45] <Agrajag> pramz: no no
[08:45] <KinkoBlast> colen: Use sudo (command)
[08:46] <Agrajag> he doesn't need one
[08:46] <pramz> or you can go into a shell with sudo sh
[08:46] <joh6nn> matthew_w: betcha money that it's still looking in the wrong place
[08:46] <pramz> well he doesnt need one but if he wants a root account
[08:46] <Agrajag> pramz: sudo -s works better
[08:46] <pramz> k
[08:46] <joh6nn> at a guess, it's looking at hd1, and should be  looking at hd0
[08:46] <borgista> colen: pm me
[08:46] <KinkoBlast> pramz: root is disabled for a reason.
[08:46] <pramz> yes i understand it is
[08:46] <matthew_w> joh6nn; ok - well, how do I fix it, is a better question
[08:46] <matthew_w> lol
[08:46] <pramz> im not disputing that :)
[08:46] <nalioth> pramz: please dont advise that
[08:46] <joh6nn> knoppix & vim
[08:46] <pramz> but people want to use root, they can
[08:46] <colen> so I am not able to get into root
[08:46] <joh6nn> or, if you swing that way, knoppix & emacs
[08:46] <colen> ?
[08:47] <KinkoBlast> matthew_w:Install it on the computer you are going to use it on.
[08:47] <Agrajag> pramz: he didn't say he wanted to set a root password, only that he wanted to run something as root, which is what sudo is for
[08:47] <nalioth> pramz: ubuntu has disabled the root account for a reason
[08:47] <joh6nn> colen: you create a root user if you want to
[08:47] <Agrajag> colen: yes you can
[08:47] <joh6nn> it's just not recommended
[08:47] <Agrajag> clorun sudo -s and put in your password
[08:47] <Agrajag> ergh
[08:47] <matthew_w> KinkoBlast; No CD booting on that computer
[08:47] <Agrajag> colen: run sudo -s and put in your password
[08:47] <joh6nn> though personally, i did it, and i'd go batty if i didn't
[08:47] <pramz> also
[08:47] <Agrajag> your user's password, not root's
[08:47] <pramz> where can i find docs on creating debs ?
[08:47] <KinkoBlast> matthew_w:Check your BIOS settings, you should be able to tell it to boot from CD (unless it's a REALLY old system)
[08:47] <eruin> !w32codecs
[08:47] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[08:48] <matthew_w> KinkoBlast; it's Really, REALLY old.  (but the problem is more the CD drive)
[08:48] <Korio> How can get Opera plugins to work? It tells me to install Motif but I cant find it
[08:48] <nalioth> pramz: the wiki has one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch
[08:48] <KinkoBlast> matthwe_w: I doubt Ubuntu would run on any thing that old. My ~1995 system has a cd boot option
[08:48] <pramz> nalioth, thanks :-)
[08:48] <joh6nn> matthew_w: when you try to boot right now, what happens?
[08:48] <colen> ok, so what I have done is use the terminal, typed sudo -s, now it was root, so I should beable to edit things now?
[08:48] <matthew_w> KinkoBlast; well, it has the boot option but
[08:49] <pramz> also does anyone know of a good DB client like pgadmin3 etc but which can connect to various databases like pgsql,mysql,mssql etc ?
[08:49] <matthew_w> KinkoBlast; the CD-Rom is too slow for it to function - I can get another one, I'm just wondering if there's anyother way around
[08:49] <KinkoBlast> matthew_w: And I think there were instructions on using a floppy to start the installer too.
[08:49] <Agrajag> colen: yes
[08:49] <pramz> ive been using Aqua Data Studio but its quite slow
[08:49] <matthew_w> joh6nn; it goes to grub, then grub fails with the pre-mentioned error
[08:49] <matthew_w> KinkoBlast; already tried, it hangs on the install because of the slow CD.
[08:49] <KinkoBlast> matthew_w: Try moving the CD Rom drive from the other computer to this one.
[08:49] <anto9us> pramz: is
[08:49] <dm> stpere ok i have my driver, and i CD over to the driver file, how do i install it with Ndiswrapper
[08:50] <FireCat> pramz: I found something called aqua or something like that. You can google for it, but I haven't tried it much yet
[08:50] <anto9us>  pramz: is it for forms or administration?
[08:50] <stpere> dm, ndiswrapper -i yourfile.inf
[08:50] <anto9us> sorr
[08:50] <matthew_w> KinkoBlast; I guess a direct question would be - is there any program that allows free editing of the grub bootloader in the form of a boot disk?  lol
[08:50] <theconartist> yo
[08:50] <joh6nn> matthew_w: boot the machine, go to the grub menu, and hit "e"
[08:50] <stpere> dm, you need root privileges for that
[08:50] <anto9us> my enter key is broken
[08:50] <stpere> dm, sudo ndiswrapper -i yourfile.inf
[08:50] <KinkoBlast> stpere: don't forget sudo
[08:50] <FireCat> pramz: Sorry, slow eyes
[08:50] <matthew_w> joh6nn well I do, but I'll have to do some tinkering with TV out to have both open at once... just a moment.
[08:50] <KinkoBlast> stpere: vevermind
[08:50] <dm> stpere ok its installed i think
[08:50] <matthew_w> brb
[08:51] <shade_> can anyone help with a printing issue ?
[08:51] <stpere> dm, now to see if your hardware is seen, type ndiswrapper -l
[08:51] <pramz> anto9us, administration and basically to submit queries etc
[08:51] <Belutz> for nvidia, should i use nv or nvidia?
[08:51] <stpere> dm, if it says Driver present, hardware present, all should be fine
[08:51] <dm> stpere it is
[08:51] <dm> stpere should i restart?
[08:51] <Nei> hi; I just installed ubuntu but what is my root password?
[08:51] <stpere> dm, no
[08:51] <KinkoBlast> ndiswraper question! Can i delete the folder i installed the drivers from?
[08:51] <Agrajag> Belutz: nvidia if you want 3d stuff to work
[08:51] <_willcooke_> Anyone got a tilt-wheel mouse working?
[08:51] <pramz> FireCat, Aqua Data Studio works well but its Java based and can get very slow :(
[08:52] <stpere> dm, now type ndiswrapper -m
[08:52] <stpere> oops
[08:52] <KinkoBlast> Is it posable to leave a program running while I'm logged out?
[08:52] <stpere> dm, sudo ndiswrapper -m
[08:52] <Belutz> Agrajag, thanks
[08:52] <dm> stpere ok
[08:52] <Agrajag> KinkoBlast: a console program?
[08:52] <onkarshinde> I am having trouble connecting to shell.sf.net using ssh. Can anyone help me?
[08:52] <dm> stpere now what
[08:52] <shade_> Nei : root password is not set do sudo passwd root then add a password
[08:52] <stpere> dm, you can type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:52] <afabian> Hmm.  The info index isn't right on my fresh, new XEmacs install.  In fact, the whole info tree is a little thin; missing coreutils info, for instance.  Anything I can do to remedy info problems?
[08:52] <matthew_w> Gross, 800 x 600
[08:52] <KinkoBlast> agrajag: I think i could do it with a console, so sure
[08:52] <matthew_w> Ok, well, I'm going to hook up that other computer and try hitting e in GRUB, brb...
[08:52] <stpere> dm, now you should be ready to go
[08:53] <stpere> dm, type iwconfig
[08:53] <Agrajag> Nei: don't do that
[08:53] <FireCat> pramz: I asked Toad ( Quest)  if they would release something for linux and they pretty much laughed at me. I thought it was worth a try :)
[08:53] <Agrajag> Nei: use sudo
[08:53] <Agrajag> KinkoBlast: use screen
[08:53] <shade_> thats what I said do sudo passwd : whatever you want your password to be
[08:53] <Agrajag> shade_: no
[08:53] <dm> ok.
[08:53] <theconartist> whatsup yizall
[08:53] <matthew_w> And if you must FELL that you ARE root, use sudo -i  lol.
[08:53] <pramz> FireCat, heh ya man I feel ya on some of the cool software available for windows and they dont release it for linux :~(
[08:53] <Nei> shade_, thanks for the info
[08:53] <Agrajag> sudo  will run a program as root
[08:53] <shade_> ok then how did you set your root password?
[08:53] <KinkoBlast> agrajag: I wanted to do gaim, to leve my status on jabber while I was out, but I think i could do it with centericq
[08:53] <shade_> thats how I did it
[08:53] <Nei> I was a bit confused that it didn't ask me for a password
[08:53] <Agrajag> you don't need to set a root password
[08:53] <KinkoBlast> agrajag:screen?
[08:53] <dm> stpere ok, do i need to use the network settings in system settings now?
[08:54] <KinkoBlast> !sudoroot
[08:54] <ubotu> KinkoBlast: Are you on ritalin?
[08:54] <stpere> dm, yes, exactly
[08:54] <Agrajag> shade_: if you need a root terminal, use sudo -s
[08:54] <KinkoBlast> !rootsudo
[08:54] <ubotu> somebody said rootsudo was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[08:54] <pramz> FireCat, hopefully someone will write a _good_ multi database client ui based on gtk/mono :)
[08:54] <Agrajag> shade_: to run anything else as root, use sudo <command>
[08:54] <theconartist> what could be causing "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:54] <theconartist> "?
[08:54] <shade_> hmmm thanks
[08:54] <FireCat> pramz: I also tried to get a licence for Tora, and found out they aren't giving them out
[08:54] <Agrajag> KinkoBlast: screen lets you attach a console program to a virtual terminal that you can detach from and reattach to any time.
[08:54] <dm> stpere it wont let me change my WEP key,
[08:54] <shade_> Can you help with a printing issue then Agrajag ?
[08:54] <Agrajag> shade_: I don't own a printer.
[08:54] <stpere> dm, try in in CLI
[08:55] <afabian> theconartist, configure usually outputs something like configure.log in the directory it's working in.  You should see some pretty detailed information on exactly what command it tried and the error it got doing it.
[08:55] <shade_> dang.
[08:55] <shade_> :)
[08:55] <dm> stpere CLI?
[08:55] <stpere> dm, Command line interface
[08:55] <KinkoBlast> Agrajag: Ah, cool. Out of curiosity, can I do that with a GNOME app?
[08:55] <shade_> Does anyone else own a printer that can help me config it on a network?
[08:55] <Under^Uni> ?
[08:55] <onkarshinde> I am having trouble connecting to shell.sf.net using ssh. Can anyone help me?
[08:55] <Agrajag> KinkoBlast: basic usage: screen to start a new screen session, ctrl-a ctrl-d to detach, screen -r to reattach
[08:55] <stpere> dm, sudo iwconfig wlan0 enc open XXXXXXXXXXXX
[08:55] <Agrajag> Read the manpage for more info
[08:55] <matthew_w> Ok hey the entries are here in the boot menu
[08:55] <stpere> dm, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid home
[08:55] <matthew_w> But I'm too inept to know what to edit... lol
[08:56] <stpere> dm, sudo dhclient wlan0
[08:56] <Agrajag> KinkoBlast: nope
[08:56] <absent> once i get a package (ie wine) where does it go?
[08:56] <joh6nn> matthew_w: there should be an entry that says something like (hd0)
[08:56] <jesse__> absent: is it a .deb package?
[08:56] <joh6nn> or maybe (hd0,0)
[08:56] <Agrajag> An x clienthas to stay connected to the X server to keep running
[08:56] <pramz> FireCat, a db client ui with tabbled query windows, tree list for tables, sprocs and other db objects and code completion in the query window with multiple database support would be so awesome :-) If i knew how to code I would so do it :(
[08:56] <KinkoBlast> agrajag: In that case, do you know of a better console-based jabber client then centericq? :-P
[08:56] <absent> jesse__ i dont know
[08:56] <Agrajag> nope, I just use IRC and AIM
[08:57] <absent> jesse__ i got it using the advanced option
[08:57] <matthew_w> joh6nn; there is, one second...
[08:57] <absent> jesse__ oh isee what you mean
[08:57] <KinkoBlast> agrajag: Evil.
[08:57] <Dr_Willis>  wine is a 'special' kind of program
[08:57] <absent> jesse__ yes it it
[08:57] <absent> jesse__ is*
[08:57] <Agrajag> if you say so
[08:57] <jesse__> absent: are you trying to install it?
[08:57] <matthew_w> joh6nn; it says root    (hd1,0)
[08:58] <KinkoBlast> agrajag: AIM is REALLY bad. the servers crash all the time and AOL sends you spam asking you to get an AOL internet access acount every 5 minutes
[08:58] <Belutz> Agrajag, ok, now how do i fix the refresh rate?
[08:58] <sazwerx> hi everyone.. i'm already have my GPG key, and if i wanna re-install my computer, do i have to generate a new key?
[08:58] <joh6nn> change it to be hd0,0
[08:58] <absent> jesse__ i should have already installed it but i dont know where to find it, i am new to linux and i keep looking for the "program files" folder
[08:58] <matthew_w> ok, one sec
[08:58] <Agrajag> Belutz: have you tried
[08:58] <Agrajag> ack
[08:58] <pramz> sazwerx, you can export and reimport your key
[08:58] <goh> Hi, may I know if macromedia flash can run on linux?
[08:58] <onkarshinde> !ati
[08:58] <ubotu> I heard ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:58] <Belutz> Agrajag, ack ?
[08:58] <Agrajag> Belutz: have you tried  System > preferences > screen resolution ?
[08:59] <KinkoBlast> Will my TRENDnet TBW-101UB USB Bluetooth adapter work on ubuntu?
[08:59] <Belutz> Agrajag, yes, i just fix the resolution, but the refresh rate is still 60, i should be able to get it 75
[08:59] <joh6nn> matthew_w: that will only make the change for this one time, though; it doesn't save it to the menu file.  once the machine's booting, you'll have to go in and edit the menu file as root again
[08:59] <pramz> sazwerx, http://webber.dewinter.com/gnupg_howto/english/GPGMiniHowto-3.html
[08:59] <jesse__> absent: assuming you installed it correctly, you should look for it in your "Applications" menu. if its not there, try running it from the console. if you are still having problems, i will need to know the program :)
[08:59] <sazwerx> pramz, so u mean before i'm re-install my system, i should export my key? then i can import it again on my system?
[08:59] <pramz> yes
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> Kingbahamut,  my little 'dlink' usb-thumb-sized one worked like a champ.  $20 on sale.
[08:59] <sazwerx> pramz, thanks in advance :)
[08:59] <pramz> sazwerx, and you should always keep a copy of your key in a safe place in case you lose your current one
[08:59] <absent> jesse__ its wine
[09:00] <absent> jesse__ and i cant find it in applications
[09:00] <sazwerx> pramz, ok.. thanks, bro
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> Kingbahamut,  proberly depends on what chipset the thing is using.
[09:00] <absent> jesse__ how do i run it from the terminal?
[09:00] <pramz> sazwerx, anytime :-)
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> wine - does NOT show up in the menus. Its a special kind of program.
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> wine /path/to/sol.exe
[09:00] <absent> ty
[09:00] <KinkoBlast> Wine is slow....
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> there may be some front ends out for it.
[09:00] <pramz> KinkoBlast, it is , but useful
[09:00] <jesse__> absent: i suggest this FAQ http://www.winehq.org/site/docs/wine-faq/index#ABOUT-RUNNING-WINE
[09:00] <matthew_w> ok
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> dang handy at times. :P
[09:00] <pramz> KinkoBlast, i dont like winex but i do appreciate wine :)
[09:00] <matthew_w> lemme see if it works...
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> Cedega is handy also. :P
[09:01] <joh6nn> hit "b" to make it boot
[09:01] <absent> jesse__ ty
[09:01] <Agrajag> Belutz: you'll have to go into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the right settings for your monitor, and set them there in the Monitor section
[09:01] <jesse__> absent: if you dont like the way wine works, i also suggest Crossover Office for people kinda new to linux
[09:01] <KinkoBlast> Dr_Willis: What is this Cedega people keep talking about!?!?
[09:01] <tris622ph> i am having a problem running wxDesigner. an error says cannot open shared library libtiff.so. does anyone know what package is this?
[09:01] <jesse__> absent: youre welcome
[09:01] <Belutz> Agrajag, already done that
[09:01] <matthew_w> lmao
[09:01] <Agrajag> don't know what to tell you then, did you check the forums or anything?
[09:01] <matthew_w> Well
[09:01] <matthew_w> it went into the kernel messages
[09:02] <stpere> dm, is it working?
[09:02] <Sudrien> Question -  how can a user set the default group of new files?  I'm in a chroot'd SSH session, chgrp has been disabled, and of course I don't wan't to use 777 for anything.
[09:02] <matthew_w> and I got "kernel panic - not syncing vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[09:02] <joh6nn> heh
[09:02] <nalioth> tris622ph: install libtiff4-dev
[09:02] <joh6nn> that's kinda funny
[09:02] <matthew_w> so what does that mean ? lol
[09:02] <joh6nn> no idea
[09:03] <tris622ph> ive already installed it
[09:03] <linuxgeek2> Is shipping cd's ubuntu free of charge
[09:03] <linuxgeek2> will it cost anything
[09:03] <linuxgeek2> ?
[09:03] <tris622ph> is wxDesigner can run in gnome environment?
[09:03] <budluva> no
[09:03] <nicholaspaul> yes linuxgeek2
[09:03] <Agrajag> nothing at all
[09:03] <nicholaspaul> FREE!
[09:03] <linuxgeek2> cool
[09:03] <nalioth> tris622ph: it can run anywhere
[09:04] <ktk2> /join #debian
[09:04] <ktk2> oops
[09:04] <joh6nn> matthew_w:
[09:04] <matthew_w> Does anyone know what that kernel panic means?
[09:04] <Korio> I have installed Crossover Office but I dont know how to launch it
[09:04] <joh6nn> in your grub menu, on the line that starts "kernel", what's the "root=something" part set to?
[09:05] <Jimbob> matthew_w: It means your system crashed in a very bad way -- in this case, it couldn't find your Linux partition, likely the result of a misconfiguration in grub or lilo (as joh6nn mentioned)
[09:05] <[devil-boy] > helloz
[09:05] <matthew_w> One sec, I'll look
[09:05] <[devil-boy] > anyone has a dell inspiron 6000
[09:05] <[devil-boy] > or any other dell with multimedia buttons?
[09:05] <matthew_w> joh6nn; lmao , it's /dev/hdb1
[09:06] <joh6nn> try setting it to /dev/hda1
[09:06] <anto9us> [devil-boy] , I have inspiron 9100, it just borked on me though
[09:06] <[devil-boy] > damn
[09:06] <joh6nn> matthew_w: don't forget to make the (hd0,0) change, too
[09:06] <eSPete> my application menu is empty after i used the menu editor, help! how do i fix this?
[09:06] <[devil-boy] > that's not very good news
[09:07] <matthew_w> Well the change was a good idea, but the kernel panic happened again
[09:07] <KinkoBlast> Mac OS X 10.3.5 is taking forever to install....
[09:07] <anto9us> yeah, it's been dying for a while now, however, multimedia keys have worked in Gnome on another distro, never bothered setting them up in ubuntu
[09:07] <Tokenizer> after installing apache2, perl and php, i see that php works fine but any cgi/perl scripts don't run and return 403 to browser, any clue? i added addhandler line to httpd.conf in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[09:07] <Nei> could someone explain to me how I add the 'multiverse'? there is only Universe in my package source list after I enabled 'show disabled'
[09:08] <KinkoBlast> !ubuntuallday
[09:08] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuallday is Ubuntu all day keeps Dr. Norton away.
[09:09] <joh6nn> matthew_w: you're gonna have to figure out what your partition setup is
[09:09] <matthew_w> joh6nn; I'll loon around in the grub menu some more and do that
[09:09] <joh6nn> i'm trying to think how you can do that, but i'm not sure
[09:09] <eSPete> my application menu is empty after i used the menu editor, help! how do i fix this?
[09:10] <matthew_w> joh6nn; is there any tool to see the partition table from grub?
[09:10] <pramz> Tokenizer, is this for a default webdir or a vhost ?
[09:10] <joh6nn> you can make some changes, yeah, but i'm not sure if you can make the right ones
[09:10] <joh6nn> i know enough about grub to get by
[09:10] <matthew_w> joh6nn; I just want to see it so I know what partitions to set lol
[09:10] <joh6nn> but i'm by no means an expert
[09:10] <absent> w00t i got the photoshop working
[09:10] <Whistler> !realplayer
[09:10] <ubotu> somebody said realplayer was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:11] <Stricklin> I'm looking for a decent IDE for writing PHP. Suggestions?
[09:12] <Korio> I have installed CrossOver Office and I cant figure out how to open it it didnt create a shortcut
[09:12] <joh6nn> Stricklin: i don't know of any, but i wouldn't see much benefit to one either
[09:12] <matthew_w> joh6nn; what does the hd0,0 signify?
[09:12] <KinkoBlast> Korio: Don't bother, use OO.o
[09:12] <Whistler> boot sector
[09:12] <Stricklin> joh6nn, you just use a text editor?
[09:12] <Korio> KinkoBlast: well you use it for other stuff as well
[09:13] <Korio> KinkoBlast: I just want to know how to open it
[09:13] <qt2> I was wondering... i've heard about all sorts of horror stories with ATI cards and linux... if they were my only two options, would you reccmoend upgrading to a ATI Radeon 9200 or staying with a Geforce 4 MX 440?
[09:13] <joh6nn> Stricklin: yes.  Kate does pretty much everything i need
[09:13] <Korio> qt2: funny i have a geforce mx 440, i switched it with my radeon 9800 pro for linux lol
[09:14] <eSPete> how do i restart gnome without allso restarting X?
[09:14] <joh6nn> matthew_w: like Whistler said, it's the sector you'd like to boot.  hd0 is the first hdd on the system, and ,0 is the first partition
[09:14] <anto9us> eSPete, logout and back in
[09:14] <qt2> Korio, so you're saying it'd be better to keep the geforce?
[09:14] <AMDXP> I am loving my Ubuntu system
[09:14] <Whistler> AMDXP and you should
[09:14] <FunnyLookinHat> What is the command to format a drive ext3?
[09:14] <stefan_> is there somewhere manual how to use gdesklets?
[09:15] <Whistler> everyone here does
[09:15] <Whistler> :_
[09:15] <eSPete> anto9us, i only men the panels
[09:15] <salutis> hello. how do i run program, for example gnome-terminal at specified virtual desktop?
[09:15] <salutis> FunnyLookinHat, mkfs.ext3
[09:15] <anto9us> eSPete, killall gnome-panel
[09:15] <Korio> qt2: well I only barrowd that card from a friend but no, i wouldnt spend money on it
[09:15] <Korio> qt2: what do you do in linux that needs such a good card?
[09:15] <Stricklin> joh6nn, well, if nothing else, I suppose I'll have to learn the language and syntax ;)
[09:16] <joh6nn> Stricklin: www.php.net  is an extremely useful guide
[09:16] <qt2> Korio, games via wine.
[09:16] <joh6nn> i've only been working with php for about 6-8 months, and i'd consider myself fluent
[09:16] <qt2> Korio, and i'd be getting the card for free so... :|
[09:16] <matthew_w> joh6nn; I tried it with recovery mode - and I got "cannot open root device hda1 or unknown-block(0,0)      Please append a correct root= boot option
[09:16] <joh6nn> if you've ever done any other programming before, you don't really need an IDE; you just need php.net
[09:16] <DJ_Mirage> joh6nn, cool ;)
[09:16] <DJ_Mirage> ive been working 3 years with php ;)
[09:16] <Korio> qt2: well humm i donnu 9200 is outdated as well so
[09:16] <qt2> Korio, i was just wondering weather i should try switching out the geforce or not.
[09:17] <DJ_Mirage> and consider myself quite pro ;)
[09:17] <joh6nn> DJ_Mirage: would you agree that you really don't need any special tools, then>?
[09:17] <Korio> qt2: well shure if its free then go for it
[09:17] <qt2> Korio, it's not that outdated... not nearly as much as the geforce is. o.O;
[09:17] <limaunion> hi, how can I make my eth0 be eth1 and my eth1 be eth0 ? for some strange reason I'm not having the same behavior after upgrading to Breezy
[09:17] <Korio> qt2: tru dat '.'
[09:17] <joh6nn> matthew_w: like i said, you're gonna have to figure out what your partition layout is
[09:17] <joh6nn> i don't know how to tell you to do that
[09:17] <KinkoBlast> My video card sucks.
[09:17] <matthew_w> heh
[09:17] <DJ_Mirage> joh6nn, its nice to have completion of functions with a parameter list, and syntaxhighlighting, but other then that yes :p
[09:17] <DJ_Mirage> its just nice ;)
[09:17] <Korio> Does anybody now how to launch CXoffice?
[09:17] <qt2> Korio, i was just wondering how horrible installing an ati card is, and what the problems are...
[09:17] <KinkoBlast> (it's an ATI 3d Rage Pro, and it's soldered on to the motherboard)
[09:18] <joh6nn> DJ_Mirage: Kate can do that; you just have to download the php syntax highlighting file
[09:18] <matthew_w> well
[09:18] <Nei> is there a console package manager that works with ubuntu?
[09:18] <Korio> qt2: Well its not that hard lol.... but nvidia is way easier. There is a tutorial for Ati drivers on ubuntuforums.org
[09:18] <salutis> Nei, dpkg
[09:18] <matthew_w> joh6nn; I partitioned it and... the first partition on that hard disk is root, the second is swap, as far as I know
[09:18] <Nei> salutis, I was more thinking of a frontent like synaptic
[09:18] <salutis> Nei, aptitude
[09:18] <DJ_Mirage> joh6nn, does it autocomplete functions and classes which you wrote yourself, like Zend studio does ? I have yet to find another php editor that does that
[09:18] <anto9us> Nei, aptitude
[09:18] <Sanne> Stricklin: I also like Kate very much. You might also try Bluefish, a text editor mainly for html/css, but also for php, that comes with a php reference in a sidebar. Might help if you're just starting out.
[09:18] <salutis> Nei, aptitude
[09:18] <Nei> I guess aptitude it is then, thanks
[09:18] <qt2> Korio, ah, well, i've heard stuff about drivers causing lockups the like.
[09:19] <bmk789> is it possible to play WMA files in ubuntu?
[09:19] <joh6nn> matthew_w: the only thing i can think of is to move the drive into another machine, make it the only connected drive in that machine, boot with a livecd, and use something like parted to look and see what the actual partition layout is
[09:19] <felipe_> no
[09:19] <salutis> how do i run program (for example gnome-terminal) at specified virtual desktop?
[09:19] <joh6nn> DJ_Mirage: no, it doesn't
[09:19] <qt2> Korio, however, considering the performance jump, i'm probably going to give it a shot.
[09:19] <joh6nn> but that's also not a function that i really need
[09:19] <Korio> qt2: not shure about that i didnt use it for long
[09:19] <joh6nn> though, in that case, Stricklin, it sounds like whatever DJ_Mirage is using would be what you were asking for
[09:19] <DJ_Mirage> joh6nn, too bad  =(
[09:20] <jas_> What is the filetype when you are trying to mount a .cue instead of a .iso?
[09:20] <DJ_Mirage> joh6nn, Zend studio is multiplatform as well, but not free
[09:20] <joh6nn> yeah, i figured: i was pretty sure Zend was commercial
[09:20] <DJ_Mirage> that function i described is really handy
[09:20] <joh6nn> oh well.  if the software is good enough, it's worth the price
[09:20] <ProN00b> what is the PIPE signal for ?
[09:20] <Korio> Hey does anyone know how to LAUNCH Crossover wine?
[09:20] <DJ_Mirage> i have written about 30 classes in 4 months, and it sure came in handy
[09:21] <DJ_Mirage> hell if you comment using PHPDoc standards, it even shows that above it ;)
[09:21] <Stricklin> What about a text editor that retrieves from, and saves to, a remote site using FTP or something? That's all I really hope for.
[09:21] <pickett_> .bin
[09:21] <joh6nn> Korio: in a terminal, type "sudo updatedb"
[09:21] <DJ_Mirage> Stricklin, Zend studio ;)
[09:21] <ProN00b> what is the PIPE signal for ?
[09:21] <joh6nn> then, when that's done, type "locate crossover | grep bin"
[09:21] <Korio> joh6nn: I have done that but i yet dont know wich file to open :(
[09:21] <DJ_Mirage> and under windows HTML-Kit (free) and Dreamweaver
[09:21] <jas_> What is the filetype when you are trying to mount a .cue instead of a .iso?
[09:21] <joh6nn> Korio: whichever one is listed in /usr/bin
[09:22] <Korio> joh6nn: i dont think its listed therer
[09:22] <fanopnaic> jas_: what?
[09:22] <Agrajag> jas_: you can't do that
[09:22] <Sanne> Stricklin: I heard good things about Quanta, haven't used it myself, though
[09:22] <joh6nn> Korio:  type "locate crossover | grep bin"
[09:22] <karate-man> hello.. is there anyone Portuguese that can give me support for DSL Connection in Ubuntu?
[09:22] <Nei> how does one manage /etc/alternatives ?
[09:22] <DJ_Mirage> Stricklin, I just read about Quanta+ doing that
[09:22] <jas_> So there is only support for iso9660?
[09:22] <matthew_w> joh6nn; using the tools taht come with the command line in GRUB I found    hd(0,0) is filesystem ext2fs and is the largest partition on the hard drive, then (hd0,1) is a slightly smaller one in a solaris filesystem (which is swap, afaik)
[09:22] <Agrajag> yes
[09:22] <DJ_Mirage> if one of you guys is dutch, many webdev programs here: http://www.breekpunt.nl/artikel.asp?id=1829
[09:22] <KinkoBlast> Is there a good replacement for Dreamweaver and Frontpage?
[09:22] <pramz> anyone tried out the e17 packages ?
[09:22] <fanopnaic> jas_: using bchunk to convert bin/cue -> iso, and mounting that will work.
[09:23] <Agrajag> there are drive emulation program s for linux but I don't know how well they work, you'd have to look yourself
[09:23] <DJ_Mirage> KinkoBlast, id definatly go for Quanta or if you have 99$ for Zend studio
[09:23] <pramz> KinkoBlast, you want to do WYSIWYG editing ?
[09:23] <jas_> fanopnaic bchunk?
[09:23] <jas_> fanopnaic: bchunk?
[09:23] <pramz> KinkoBlast, try nvu
[09:23] <fanopnaic> yes, bchunk.
[09:23] <DJ_Mirage> or try NVu
[09:23] <trex_dk> hey.. just have a very noobish question.. how do i start a root terminal - i've deleted the shortcut by acciednt :P... i cant find a way to start it now, only the gnome-terminal...
[09:23] <KinkoBlast> pramz: No, I wnt the split view of Dreamweaver mostly
[09:23] <pramz> i personally use vim for php editing :-)
[09:23] <Sanne> KinkoBlast: better to learn writing html and css
[09:23] <pramz> ahh i would say nvu then
[09:24] <Korio> joh6nn: /cxoffice/bin  thats all that exists of it
[09:24] <anto9us> trex_dk, open gnome-terminal and type sudo su
[09:24] <KinkoBlast> Sanne: I like Dreamweaver's split view. I write source and doublecheck it in one windows.
[09:24] <Agrajag> anto9us: sudo -s
[09:24] <joh6nn> matthew_w: yeah, i was already pretty sure that (hd0,0) was right
[09:25] <joh6nn> but you need to know what device it's on, too
[09:25] <joh6nn> so that you can set root= properly
[09:25] <trex_dk> anto9us, im well aware of su and sudo, but i find it very annoying to write that every time i need a root terminal
[09:25] <colen> is it possible to access a windows drive from in linux?
[09:25] <Sanne> KinkoBlast: ah, ok. I don't know any graphical editor, but pramz said nvu, maybe try that.
[09:25] <felipe_> I'm having some trouble with the pppoeconf, could anyone give me a hando?
[09:25] <makkk> has anyone had problems with the Update Manager doing nothing?
[09:25] <colen> it is telling me that it is a read only filesystem, so I tried to change the permissions and it just says "Read only file system"
[09:25] <joh6nn> trex_dk: root's disabled in ubuntu by default
[09:25] <joh6nn> you have to add the root user manually if you're going to do that
[09:25] <budluva> colen, mount -o loop -t ntfx /dev/HDX /mountpoint
[09:25] <joh6nn> which is frowned upon
[09:26] <budluva> colen, ntfs i mean
[09:26] <anto9us> Agrajag, curious, why not sudo su?
[09:26] <trex_dk> yea, but i have always had a shortcut that started a root terminal
[09:26] <budluva> colen, HDX being your windows partition, and mountpoint being an existing directory where you want it mounted
[09:26] <joh6nn> Korio: what's listed in /cxoffice/bin ?
[09:26] <Agrajag> anto9us: well sudo -s opens a real login shell, su by itself keeps the user's environment which may or may not be what's needed
[09:26] <budluva> ok
[09:26] <colen> thank you budluva, i'll give it a try
[09:26] <budluva> k
[09:26] <Agrajag> trex_dk: just make another one that run "gksudo gnome-terminal"
[09:26] <joh6nn> trex_dk: yeah, i know, i've got a root user on my box, too.  i'm just passing the savings.. er, info, on to you
[09:27] <joh6nn> ; D
[09:27] <anto9us> Agrajag, thanks, useful to know
[09:27] <pramz> heh i finally figured out how to setup powernowd
[09:28] <budluva> sup
[09:28] <Doonz> notta
[09:28] <Doonz> joink the pink channel
[09:28] <budluva> aight
[09:28] <trex_dk> Agrajag: thx, that's just what i was searching for :D
[09:28] <Agrajag> no problem
[09:28] <joh6nn> anyone know why i'm having problems with apt-get?  it's like all my Hoary sources are gone
[09:29] <Korio> Hey does anyone know how to LAUNCH cxCrossover?
[09:29] <bharath> breezy on an hp nc6220 laptop. Almost everything worked out of the box. But, how do I activate wireless led which lights up if the wireless card is transmitting?
[09:29] <Serenity> Hello
[09:29] <Stricklin> http://charlesstricklin.com/2005/10/29/santa-may-i-have-a-decent-php-editor/
[09:29] <hybrid_goth> Korio: check /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:29] <Serenity> Complete and utter n00b here.
[09:29] <joh6nn> Korio: what's listed in /cxoffice/bin ?
[09:29] <Serenity> I have a probably very silly question
[09:29] <Korio> hybrid_goth: why would i want to do that? lol
[09:30] <hybrid_goth> Serenity: just ask
[09:30] <hybrid_goth> Korio: make sure they *are* still there
[09:30] <joh6nn> Korio: i think hybrid got the two of us confused. ; D
[09:30] <Korio> joh6nn: all the program files of it but i cant find the launcher
[09:30] <Serenity> How do I install stuff? "make" doesn't work.
[09:30] <Korio> hybrid_goth: you misunderstood
[09:30] <colen> budluva, it says my mount point does not exist
[09:30] <Korio> joh6nn: lol yea
[09:30] <hybrid_goth> heh
[09:30] <hybrid_goth> yea
[09:30] <Agrajag> Serenity: What are you trying to install?
[09:30] <joh6nn> hybrid_goth: been there, done that
[09:30] <hybrid_goth> joh6nn: have you checked it also?
[09:30] <hybrid_goth> lol
[09:30] <bluefrog-10> colen, u need to create one
[09:30] <budluva> colen, you didnt read what i said then :P
[09:30] <hybrid_goth> joh6nn: nothing useful?
[09:30] <Serenity> many things. Ultimately, I'm trying to install gnomad
[09:30] <joh6nn> not really
[09:31] <Serenity> but I need to install librarys first.
[09:31] <budluva> budluva colen, HDX being your windows partition, and mountpoint being an existing directory where you want it mounted
[09:31] <colen> I did, and I belive I did make a mount point
[09:31] <budluva> existing directory
[09:31] <budluva> :P
[09:31] <matthew_w> there's no way to boot w/out a root partition, eh, makes sense
[09:31] <Agrajag> Serenity: Yoou're not using apt?
[09:31] <lucy> ciao
[09:31] <joh6nn> a few of them are 404-ing on me, but for the most part, they still seem to be valid urls, all hosting packages
[09:31] <Serenity> apt?
[09:31] <colen> the directroy does exist.
[09:31] <lucy> hi
[09:31] <Agrajag> wow, you don't know about it?
[09:31] <Agrajag> ok
[09:31] <colen> why would it not be seing it thouhg?
[09:31] <tekmerc> breezy on an hp nc6220 laptop. Almost everything worked out of the box. But, how do I activate wireless led which lights up if the wireless card is transmitting?
[09:31] <anto9us> Serenity, take a look in synaptic or apt-cache search gnomad
[09:31] <Serenity> as I said, I am a n00b
[09:32] <Agrajag> Serenity: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[09:32] <Korio> joh6nn: where where we?
[09:32] <Agrajag> Use that to install pretty much anything
[09:32] <ProN00b> why doesn't apt-get install * work ?
[09:32] <Agrajag> gnomad2 is the package name
[09:32] <hybrid_goth> ProN00b: lmao
[09:32] <linuxgeek2> Hey! any cool packages to install
[09:32] <linuxgeek2> ?
[09:32] <Korio> linuxgeek2: you should know if you have that name lol
[09:32] <anto9us> linuxgeek2, yes, thousands
[09:32] <joh6nn> Korio: pm me the actual listing of what's in the directory, and i'll see if i can tell you which one is the launcher
[09:32] <linuxgeek2> lol
[09:32] <linuxgeek2> anto9us, like ?
[09:33] <Korio> joh6nn: im not registred atm and im at irssi dont know how to PM...
[09:33] <Agrajag> Serenity: you'll want to enable extra repositories
[09:33] <linuxgeek2> I am just using ubuntu from 2 days
[09:33] <pramz> hmmmm
[09:33] <ProN00b> linuxgeek2, there is beep-media-player and stremtuner, which make a pretty good internet radio package together
[09:33] <hybrid_goth> Korio: /query
[09:33] <joh6nn> bah
[09:33] <pramz> upgrade to mysql5 or use pgsql 8.0.x ?
[09:33] <darkiz> helo
[09:33] <Korio> hybrid_goth: im not registred with nickserv..
[09:33] <linuxgeek2> oh ProN00b
[09:33] <pramz> decisions decisions decisions
[09:33] <Korio> hybrid_goth: therefore i cant pm got it?
[09:33] <arianit> does Breezy support clear type fonts by default?
[09:33] <hybrid_goth> ProN00b: is stremtuner CLI?
[09:33] <colen> what am I doing wrong?   mount -o loop -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /hd_w              the dir. hd_w is there, but its saying its not
[09:33] <ProN00b> cli ?
[09:33] <Serenity> OK. I tried to install gnomad but it says unresolvable dependencys...
[09:33] <anto9us> linuxgeek2, I like postgresql and zope
[09:33] <agilman> hi, I've been wondering if ubuntu has any 'apt-get upgrade' problems, like knoppix ?
[09:33] <hybrid_goth> Korio: you said you didnt know how to though
[09:34] <hybrid_goth> Korio: /msg nickserv IDENTIFY <pass>
[09:34] <matthew_w> What is error 11: unrecognized device string?
[09:34] <Korio> hybrid_goth: stop nanny me please
[09:34] <Agrajag> Serenity: you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[09:34] <Agrajag> Serenity: settings > repositories
[09:34] <Serenity> no multiverse...how?
[09:34] <Serenity> thnx.
[09:34] <Agrajag> click on add, then check the non-free (multiverse) box
[09:35] <Agrajag> it should update your apt cache and then you should be good
[09:35] <arianit> does Breezy support clear type fonts by default?
[09:36] <elvstone> grr. my brother just bought a new CD by Depeche Mode.. it is "Copy Controlled" (some Sony DRM shiat) and can't be played in his portable CD.. anyone know of a program that can rip "Copy Controlled" CDs for Linux?
[09:36] <Agrajag> so, let us know if that works
[09:36] <Agrajag> elvstone: that depends on how the copy protection works
[09:37] <Agrajag> Have you tried the standard tools?
[09:37] <elvstone> Agrajag: hrm. okay. i thought it would be the same for all CDs saying "Copy Controlled" on them (and there's a little logo for it too). hm.
[09:37] <pramz> heh
[09:37] <Agrajag> sometimes cdparanoia can get around that stuff
[09:37] <colen> budluva:  I got it to work, and now I have a can see it on my desktop, but it still does not work correctly.  the permissions only allow root to read and excute.  when I try to change the permissions it wont allow me to do it, saysing its read only
[09:37] <elvstone> okay. i'll try. i just presumed i needed to do something else.
[09:37] <pramz> thats the only reason i dont ever buy music cds from these obnoxious record labels
[09:38] <crafteh> what package do i need to install to view .mpg files? totem player doesn't have the right codec
[09:38] <elvstone> bbl.
[09:38] <Agrajag> sometimes the copy protection is just a driver that installs itself in windows and so is wirthless in linux or mac OS X
[09:38] <electron> hi, how do I setup my ubuntu server so it caches urls I visit so they load faster?
[09:38] <pramz> i do buy imported cds which dont have the copy protection
[09:38] <matthew_w> ok hey, joh6nn;  I think I've got it!
[09:38] <Agrajag> worthless even
[09:38] <joh6nn> cool!
[09:38] <Serenity> yay, that all seems to have worked.
[09:38] <Serenity> Thanks.
[09:38] <joh6nn> matthew_w: what'd you do?
[09:38] <Agrajag> Serenity: oh cool
[09:38] <budluva> colen, you tried chown?
[09:38] <matthew_w> joh6nn; I used a win95 MBR editor boot disk to look directly at the mbr/partition tables
[09:38] <elvstone> Agrajag: hrm. okay. this seems like it's a bit more though. since it won't play on his portable player.. and it says on the CD it "might not work on some equipment".
[09:38] <joh6nn> cool
[09:38] <budluva> colen, or add your user to the disk group
[09:38] <colen> no, I am tringg chmod 777
[09:38] <colen> *trying
[09:39] <elvstone> Agrajag: anyway. i'll head over to the linux box and try cdparanoia. bbl.
[09:39] <elvstone> Agrajag: thx.
[09:39] <matthew_w> It says ... partition 0 - MBR  Partition 1- empty  partition 2 - linux ext2fs partition 3 - swap
[09:39] <Agrajag> elvstone: it's still worth a shot, what they do is put extra error crap on the disc that some CD players can't deal with
[09:39] <colen> I am not sure how to do that
[09:39] <crafteh> what codecs do I need to apt-get to play mpg?
[09:39] <joh6nn> heh
[09:39] <joh6nn> weird
[09:39] <Agrajag> but cdparanoia and similar programs can sometimes get around it with their error correction
[09:39] <matthew_w> So I guess that means it would be /dev/hda2?
[09:39] <matthew_w> or /dev/hda3 if you count the MBR
[09:39] <Agrajag> Alkso, if you're not averse to using windows, there's a program called Exact Audio Copy that may do it. Much as I hate to recommend windows here, that might do it if nothing else does.
[09:39] <joh6nn> matthew_w: no, /dev/hda2
[09:40] <bmk789> why cant i get any packages?
[09:40] <bmk789> everything i try cant be found
[09:40] <joh6nn> bmk789: are you on Hoary? i've been having the same problem recently
[09:40] <bmk789> ya
[09:40] <joh6nn> bmk789: yeah, i'm here to ask the same question
[09:41] <joh6nn> i've checked to make sure my sources.list is ok, and so far as i can tell it is
[09:41] <karate-man> hello.. is there anyone Portuguese that can give me support for DSL Connection in Ubuntu?
[09:41] <joh6nn> but it's like nothing exists anymore
[09:41] <bmk789> right
[09:41] <matthew_w> joh6nn; unfortunately, still a kernel panic
[09:41] <matthew_w> *gets shotgun*
[09:41] <joh6nn> matthew_w: what have you got it set to right now?
[09:41] <joh6nn> (hd0,0) ?
[09:42] <salutis> how do i run program (for example gnome-terminal) at specified virtual desktop?
[09:42] <pramz> oh wtf
[09:42] <pramz> i did a search on my name and some site has my age at 35
[09:42] <matthew_w> hd(0,0) and root=/dev/hda2
[09:42] <matthew_w> but
[09:42] <joh6nn> it's gotta be, (hd0,1), i think
[09:42] <matthew_w> I can try
[09:42] <joh6nn> 'cause it's not on the first partition, it's on the second
[09:43] <joh6nn> salutis: in KControl, there's a section for "Window Specific Settings" under Desktop
[09:43] <joh6nn> there, you can tell specific windows to always be on a certain desktop
[09:43] <arianit> anybody can answer this plz: does Breezy support cleartype fonts by default?
[09:43] <matthew_w> nope - cannot mount selected partition lol
[09:43] <salutis> joh6nn, i have gnome
[09:43] <joh6nn> crap
[09:44] <joh6nn> salutis: can't help you then.  sorry.  ; (
[09:44] <salutis> ah ah
[09:45] <joh6nn> matthew_w: i'm out of ideas, then
[09:46] <matthew_w> lol
[09:46] <matthew_w> me too
[09:46] <joh6nn> sorry
[09:46] <matthew_w> its ok ; you tried
[09:46] <koala_man> maybe kmail should depend on kdepim-kio-plugins, since it doesn't work without it
[09:46] <electron> hi, how do I setup my ubuntu server so it caches urls I visit so they load faster?
[09:47] <tris622ph> how do i compile a wxwidget program?
[09:47] <pupil> Anyone use dwl-g510 wireless adapter?
[09:47] <joh6nn> hopefully i've at least gotten you far enough down the right path that you'll be able to figure it out
[09:47] <pupil> Anyone use dwl-g510 wireless adapter?
[09:47] <puff> i havea 60GB internal drive and a 250GB USB drive.  What's the easiest way to back up my machine?
[09:47] <elvstone> Agrajag: it worked like a charm :) i was just being paranoid (pun intended :)
[09:48] <P00f> Hi all, shopping for a distro this morning.... does Ubuntu have anything in the Apt repository for authoring Shockwave Flash files? TIA :)
[09:48] <bluefrog-10> puff, systemrecuecd
[09:48] <bluefrog-10> puff, run partinage
[09:48] <bluefrog-10> puff, run partimage
[09:48] <P00f> ?
[09:48] <elvstone> now i can burn a copy of the CD so my little brother can actually LISTEN to the damn music on his portable player.. what a sad little world we live in *sigh*.
[09:48] <nuck> hi am using ubuntu 5.04 how do i launch the file manager with root priveleges? thanks
[09:48] <bmk789> pupil: i have a dwl-g520
[09:49] <bmk789> and its working fine
[09:49] <pupil> bmk789, I am having problems detecting my dwl-g510
[09:49] <P00f> nuck do : sudo filemanagernamehere to launch file manager as Root
[09:49] <Nei> how can I disable that stupid sound whenever I start a program from the top bar?
[09:49] <pupil> bmk789, did it load off the get go ?
[09:49] <Nei> I tried to disable it in audio settings but that has no effect
[09:49] <bmk789> pupil: come to #wlan
[09:49] <pupil> bmk789, I mean from startup
[09:50] <P00f> Meh!
[09:50] <nuck> P00f thanks
[09:51] <abdo> hello ubuntu crew, just wondering when a NTFS hard drive is mounted, is there a way of making it writable
[09:52] <Earthen> Ony one know of a how to for upgrading from another computer
[09:53] <Whistler> !psybnc
[09:53] <ubotu> Whistler: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:53] <Whistler> is there any way to install psy bnc using apt-get?
[09:53] <Earthen> I have 2 computer running breezy and i want the second second computer to get updates that the firstone has allready downloaded is that possable
[09:54] <joh6nn> Earthen: i'm sure it is, i'm just not sure how to tell you to do it
[09:54] <socketbind> Earthen: I did that in a little hacky style, I mounted the /var/cache/apt dir on the other machine as an NFS share
[09:54] <joh6nn> yeah, that's what i was thinking
[09:54] <socketbind> Earthen: it works perfect, at least for me
[09:54] <Grant_> wouldnt apt-proxy do the same ?
[09:55] <Earthen> socketbind: that would be good
[09:55] <abdo> peace out..... ubuntu is great,,, keep up the good work, if only Adobe had its suite avalible for linux, i would of ditched windows all together, ;(. by by dudes.
[09:55] <socketbind> apt-proxy would be good too
[09:55] <P00f> nuck... you can run lots of applications like that... just type sudo in front of the program name to run it as root :)
[09:55] <arianit> does cleartype come standard with Breezy
[09:55] <Serenity> I have another silly question. I want to play Windows games under Linux. I've heard of this thing called "WinE". Will that do the job?
[09:55] <socketbind> Earthen: apt-proxy would be way better solution
[09:55] <sniffton> does anybody know if there's a replacement package for msttfcorefonts?  I used the extra fonts guide from www.ubuntuguide.org originally on a box that ran hoary but that one seems to be missing from breezy (on a fresh install).  is there something in breezy that's comparable?
[09:55] <P00f> anyone know of  a shockwave flash authoring tool?
[09:55] <joh6nn> Serenity: depends on the game
[09:56] <Agrajag> Serenity: there's a fork of wine called cedega that is designed for running games
[09:56] <Earthen> socketbind: do you know how I can setthat up
[09:56] <socketbind> Earthen: I never did it before, I can only give you directions
[09:56] <Earthen> I have a squid proxy running all ready
[09:56] <Agrajag> that costs money though, $5 a month subscription to get cedega + updates
[09:56] <socketbind> or you can build it from  source
[09:56] <Grant_> Earthen: if your using http sources in your sources.list your squid proxy should cache the files and then the other pc should just get them from the proxy and not need to redownload them
[09:58] <Earthen> Grant_: what do you mean sources.list in my proxy
[09:58] <socketbind> Grant_: apt-proxy is some sort of plugin for squid?
[09:58] <socketbind> Grant_: well I'm taking a closer look at it
[09:58] <Grant_> socketbind: its not for squid but it does allmost the same job, it just caches what has allready been downloaded
[09:58] <PMantis> What's the best way to make my own script run at bootup, and... choose when it runs?
[09:59] <socketbind> Grant_: nice stuff, I accomplished the same thing but in a noobish way :D
[09:59] <Grant_> Earthen: not on your proxy, the sources.list on the pc's, if they have sources that use http and not ftp your proxy should cache the files that have allready been downloaded, if they are ftp i dont think squid will cache it
[09:59] <brady__> is breezy going to move to the new (working) version of naim?
[09:59] <Earthen> Grant_: socketbind  just a note my squid  proxy in on another comeputer 3rd computer running gentoo
[09:59] <YeTr2> Does Ubuntu x86_64 support 32bit out of box?
[09:59] <socketbind> Earthen: well you can set up it very nicely but I dunno how would apt-proxy work on a gentoo machine :/
[10:00] <avinoam> Question- i set the language option in kde to switch languages with a key combination and it doesn't work- what should i do?
[10:00] <YeTr2> without any hoops to jump through
[10:00] <socketbind> YeTr2: you may need a 32bit chroot but I never tried it :/
[10:00] <socketbind> YeTr2: so I know very little about it
[10:00] <socketbind> anyone experienced in this matter?
[10:00] <josh43> Quick q: How do I enable mouse wheel support without haveing to run the whole X config.. like, is there something I can put into xorg.conf?
[10:01] <Earthen> socketbind: it was setup by a friend of mine that is now living a long ways away, I'm just a bigginer by his standerds
[10:01] <agilman> YeTr2, Im not sure if x86_64 version ubuntu would evne run on 32 bit systems
[10:01] <josh43> agilman, It would not
[10:01] <tris622ph> i am trying to compile a wxwidget project, how do i create a makefile and configure the compiler
[10:01] <agilman> YeTr2, but a 32 version of ubuntu will probably run on a 64 bit system
[10:01] <socketbind> Earthen: well I know nothing about gentoo but the proxy machine should be set up to cache the packages
[10:01] <YeTr2> agilman: asking if you can run 32bit apps on ubuntu 64bit
[10:02] <racookier> ok, i big trouble (old hardware)
[10:02] <socketbind> I heard you'll need a 32bit chroot, but that's just a rumor :D
[10:02] <PMantis> In Gentoo, I can run rc-update to make make an init script run on bootup. How do I do that in Ubuntu ?
[10:02] <redguy> PMantis: update-rc.d
[10:02] <Earthen> Sock yeah so is there a setting in the squid.conf that tells it to cach all downloaded file from a curtin site
[10:02] <YeTr2> socketbind: yeah... I consider chroot one of those hoops I don't want to jump though
[10:02] <racookier> I have a genius color vivid III scanner (conected to paralel port) how to make it work?}
[10:02] <PMantis> redguy, Thanks, I'll look at that. :)
[10:03] <socketbind> YeTr2: well I think there's no other way but that's only my opinion :)
[10:03] <Earthen> socketbind:  yeah so is there a setting in the squid.conf that tells it to cach all downloaded file from a curtin site
[10:03] <socketbind> Earthen: that's great Earthen :D
[10:03] <redguy> PMantis: you can read man sysvinit. AFAIR it is relevant
[10:03] <^^Woop^^> hi all
[10:03] <socketbind> Earthen: however I never tried apt-proxy
[10:03] <^^Woop^^> with wget is there a way to grab folder ? if yes how ?
[10:03] <avinoam> Question- i set the language option in kde to switch languages with a key combination and it doesn't work- what should i do?
[10:03] <Earthen> socketbind: what is great
[10:04] <Earthen> socketbind: :-/
[10:04] <socketbind> Earthen: nothing just kidding because you duplicated that msg
[10:04] <socketbind> ^^Woop^^: you mean recursively save?
[10:04] <Earthen> socketbind: yeah sorry I mistyped your name in the firt one
[10:04] <socketbind> Earthen: np
[10:05] <tarheelcoxn> howdy folks, I've got an 802.11g wireless NIC with a Ralink RT2500 chipset, and I've tried to install the driver module from the RAlink RT2500 project on sourceforge but failed
[10:05] <socketbind> Earthen: well I can't help you in gentoo :/
[10:05] <nalioth> ^^Woop^^: wget -r -np /path/to/folder
[10:05] <tarheelcoxn> can anybody give me some pointers?
[10:05] <nalioth> ^^Woop^^: try "wget --help"
[10:05] <Ryanmt> Hi everyone
[10:05] <socketbind> howdy Ryanmt
[10:05] <Korio> lol
[10:05] <Ryanmt> is anybody about to give me a little help on some dual monitor problems :)
[10:05] <nalioth> tarheelcoxn: have you been to the ra2500 wiki article?
[10:05] <Earthen> socketbind: yeah gentoo is a differant world alltogeather for me as well
[10:06] <Earthen> socketbind: but it is working at the momemt and I'm scared to tuch it! LOL
[10:06] <socketbind> Earthen: well I'm playing with the idea of trying it but I just don't have enoguh time :/
[10:06] <bmk789> bluefrog-10: could you come to #wlan please?
[10:06] <racookier> i know this is hard {I have a genius color vivid III scanner (conected to paralel port) how to make it work?}
[10:06] <YeTr2> gentoo is fairly easy
[10:06] <Earthen> socketbind: better than me I don't have the skill
[10:06] <tarheelcoxn> nalioth: maybe I didn't find it because I've been looking for _RT_ instead of _RA_
[10:07] <socketbind> Earthen: well I love fiddling around the config files and such, and I hate GUI stuff to set up something :D
[10:07] <socketbind> Earthen: so it'll be obviously my favourite distro D
[10:07] <boci^> hi
[10:07] <socketbind> Earthen: I just can't wait till it compiles
[10:07] <Earthen> socketbind: I like the idea of it! everything compiled an all, and it seems work better with the AMD 64
[10:07] <socketbind> szia boci ;)
[10:07] <boci^> Humm which package contain the glibc header files?
[10:07] <xkuseme> anybody know what command i use to transfer files from my computer via ssh to another? how do i tell it to grab files from the local computer?
[10:07] <nalioth> tarheelcoxn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[10:07] <socketbind> Earthen: I like it too :) Only if I had enough time...
[10:08] <boci^> socketbind: csao
[10:08] <hedonick> xkuseme: read the man pages for scp
[10:08] <Earthen> socketbind: same here
[10:08] <socketbind> boci^: mindjrt megskubizom egy pill :D
[10:08] <boci^> thnx
[10:08] <xkuseme> hedonick, oh i don't use ssh for it?
[10:08] <boci^> socketbind: most ez van: http://rafb.net/paste/results/bRB5KO92.html
[10:08] <^^Woop^^> well if i do wget -r -np http://www.xchat.org/files/source/ i just have robots.txt and index.html
[10:08] <tarheelcoxn> nalioth: owe you one
[10:08] <hedonick> xkuseme: not directly... but it's still using the ssh protocol and all
[10:08] <tarheelcoxn> nalioth++
[10:09] <xkuseme> hedonick, ok thanks
[10:09] <Earthen> socketbind: Ubuntu has been the first Linux Distro that has stuck with me after trying meny others that left me wondering how to get too meny things working
[10:09] <boci^> socketbind: glibc-dev-et akartam de az nemvolt
[10:09] <Ryanmt> Does anybody know how i can change my screen resolution, i cant use the default program now as it has an error related to XRandR, i think its something to do with my dual monitors
[10:09] <nalioth> ^^Woop^^: type wget --help
[10:09] <socketbind> boci^: asszem libc6-dev volt de nemtallom megnzem jobban
[10:09] <^^Woop^^> nalioth, i does and nothing work :(
[10:09] <pramz> has anyone tried out the unofficial e17 debs ?
[10:09] <WebLOCH> oreet
[10:09] <boci^> socketbind: tudsz adni egy olyan sourcest amiben minden bennevan?
[10:09] <WebLOCH> Any java programmers here?
[10:09] <idel> buenas
[10:10] <socketbind> boci^: nemigen mert nlam se tallom ezeket a headereket
[10:10] <boci^> WebLOCH: :)
[10:10] <boci^> ahhm
[10:10] <socketbind> WebLOCH: what's your problem? :D
[10:10] <Serenity> Thanks a lot, everyone.
[10:10] <WebLOCH> socketbind, boci^ :  i dont have a problem so much as a request, im looking for someone with a well defined ANT buildfile I can look at
[10:11] <nalioth> ^^Woop^^: type "man wget" in a terminal
[10:11] <socketbind> WebLOCH: well I'm doing compilation in a rather old fashioned way (writing Makefiles) so I can't help you with ant :)
[10:11] <^^Woop^^> nalioth, i does but it always do the same downloading index.html and robots.txt
[10:11] <^^Woop^^> nalioth, i tried almost all variable
[10:12] <WebLOCH> socketbind,  ewww.
[10:12] <boci^> WebLOCH: ant is simply
[10:12] <socketbind> WebLOCH: :D I just never looked at ant
[10:12] <boci^> http://ant.apache.org/manual/index.html
[10:12] <WebLOCH> socketbind, i was jesting, each to their own, but I like ANT more
[10:12] <boci^> this is all what need to you
[10:13] <WebLOCH> boci^, I know i have read it but it isnt everything I need, for example it doesnt say anything about setting up a "run" task
[10:13] <nalioth> ^^Woop^^: what does the robots.txt say?
[10:13] <pupil> Has anyone used the dwl-g510 card in breezy,. and is it working?
[10:13] <racookier> i know this is hard {I have a genius color vivid III scanner (conected to paralel port) how to make it work?}
[10:13] <WebLOCH> boci^, which I assume I can put together myself from the information there, but I want to know if its well formed or not
[10:13] <socketbind> boci^: hmm ht boci dgljek meg ez libc6-dev volt de nemtallom :D
[10:13] <tarheelcoxn> nalioth: looks like I was doing it right... just had too old a version from sourceforge
[10:13] <tarheelcoxn> nalioth: thanks again
[10:13] <canindya> I am running hoary , is it better upgrade to breezy?
[10:13] <WebLOCH> boci^, rather than just "winging it"
[10:13] <xkuseme> hedonick, for scp, do you know how i tell it to grab it from my box. i entered my username@computername but it says it can't connect to port 22
[10:14] <JDigital> Has anyone here used Inform?
[10:14] <nalioth> canindya: are you happy with your system?
[10:14] <boci^> socketbind: olyan kene nekem, amiben minden bennevan
[10:14] <^^Woop^^> Disallow: /files/
[10:14] <boci^> de en gentoo-s voltam
[10:14] <socketbind> WebLOCH: "getting pro" in something is just a matter of time :)
[10:14] <pupil> nalioth, I can't seem to get my wireless card workin dwl-g510  any ideas , ?
[10:14] <Grant_> canindya: the choice is yours, if your happy keep it as it is, if not upgrade :)
[10:14] <WebLOCH> socketbind, yeah I guess, just wanted a good grounding
[10:14] <WebLOCH> socketbind, do you use any particular java developer resources or sites?
[10:14] <WebLOCH> socketbind, or did you just buy a big boog
[10:14] <WebLOCH> book*
[10:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pupil about ndiswrapper
[10:14] <canindya> nalioth, yep I am but if breezy is much better then I would like to upgrade so I was asking
[10:14] <hedonick> xkuseme: I guess you don't have sshd running (the ssh deamon)
[10:14] <socketbind> erm does anybody know which package contains the glibc headers?
[10:15] <nalioth> canindya: then upgrade, you'll be fine
[10:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell canindya about breezy
[10:15] <xkuseme> hedonick, but i am logged into the server with ssh so it should be running
[10:15] <socketbind> WebLOCH: well I'm using NetBeans and Eclipse, my favourite book on subject is Brucke Eckel's Thinking in Java
[10:15] <canindya> nalioth, thanks
[10:15] <WebLOCH> socketbind,  Ahh cool, we had to cover that but only a few chapters
[10:15] <ProN00b> Thinking in Java, lol, you could just as well think in cheese or mud...
[10:16] <ProN00b> Java is teh suxx
[10:16] <socketbind> WebLOCH: the third edition is available as a free ebook and it's a very good one, and I can assure you it is a very good one
[10:16] <WebLOCH> Java is the 133tz
[10:16] <socketbind> lolz
[10:16] <hedonick> xkuseme: if you are just running the client from your current machine it doesn't mean that it responds to ssh from the outsdie
[10:16] <WebLOCH> socketbind, do you know where i could get it ?
[10:16] <socketbind> java r00lz j00 :D
[10:16] <ProN00b> Java eats babies !
[10:16] <socketbind> nothing beats it in speed lol
[10:16] <socketbind> :D
[10:16] <WebLOCH> and j00 m0mz
[10:16] <WebLOCH> hahaha
[10:16] <WebLOCH> even i know thats not true :(
[10:16] <socketbind> itt pwnz :D
[10:16] <ProN00b> lol, java and speed
[10:16] <socketbind> :D
[10:16] <ProN00b> there must be something in my eye
[10:17] <xkuseme> hedonick, but i am not trying to use the commant from the server i am logged in, i am running it from my computer and telling it to connect to the server
[10:17] <socketbind> yeah "devilish" speed
[10:17] <WebLOCH> To be honest, you can get speedy java, it just has to be well written and run under linux/unix and not on windows haha
[10:17] <eyequeue> socketbind:  sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
[10:17] <Zeep> Hi
[10:17] <WebLOCH> devilspeed(tm)
[10:17] <ProN00b> the only thing java does fast is eating babies
[10:17] <socketbind> eyequeue: I can't find that package, in which repo is it?
[10:17] <WebLOCH> So's your face!
[10:17] <WebLOCH> haha.
[10:17] <anto9us> xkuseme, try ip address instead of computer name
[10:18] <xkuseme> anto9us, for the server? what about my box?
[10:18] <eyequeue> socketbind:  main Filename: pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-dev_2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13_i386.deb
[10:18] <anto9us> xkuseme, not needed
[10:18] <racookier> i know this is hard {I have a genius color vivid III scanner (conected to paralel port) how to make it work?}
[10:18] <socketbind> eyequeue: ahh there is it, strange thing I didn't find it before for some reason, thx
[10:18] <eyequeue> socketbind:  np
[10:19] <socketbind> boci^: boci valamirt nem lttam de libc6-dev amit mondtam :D
[10:19] <boci^> socketbind: ok
[10:19] <socketbind> boci^: gondolom mr feltetted:)
[10:19] <boci^> socketbind: de akkoris kene egy lista
[10:19] <socketbind> boci^: de milyen headereket szeretnl te?
[10:19] <boci^> socketbind: mert nemtudom mitol fugg a main/universe akarmi enmtommi, assetudom mik azok es szamit-e a sorrend...
[10:20] <boci^> socketbind: stdio.h :)
[10:20] <boci^> pl
[10:20] <malorye> helllo
[10:20] <socketbind> socketbind: hmm ht iz hehe nemteljesen rtem de libc6-devben biztos megtallod
[10:20] <socketbind> ehheh :DD
[10:20] <socketbind> lol
[10:20] <socketbind> boci neked rtam :D
[10:20] <nsp|SilverFox> hey all
[10:20] <redguy> boci^, socketbind: what is that language you guys are talking? hungarian?
[10:20] <malorye> moi po parler anlais
[10:20] <RockyBurt> anyone know of an online ubuntu resource for configuring a logitech quickcam webcam ?
[10:20] <Nei> help, whenever I enable "Menu key is Compose key" my ubuntu goes berserk and the themes
[10:21] <windex> if i knew what language that was i'd demand you join another channel, socketbind, boci^.
[10:21] <xkuseme> anto9us, scp -r worked
[10:21] <windex> :)
[10:21] <ph8> hey guys, KDE is just too buggy for me so I want to convert to gnome, does anyone know if there's a guide/quick and easy command to do this from Kubuntu?
[10:21] <nsp> has anyone used a linksys lne100tx with ubuntu?
[10:21] <socketbind> sorry guys :)
[10:21] <Nei> restart a few times and then nothing works anymore
[10:21] <socketbind> we'll switch to english
[10:21] <Nei> how do I fix that?
[10:21] <malorye> ?????????????????????
[10:21] <anto9us> xkuseme, great :)
[10:21] <socketbind> windex, redguy: sry we'll switch to english, and yes it's hungarian
[10:21] <hedonick> xkuseme: using ssh is good thing. :)
[10:21] <boci^> redguy: yeah
[10:21] <eyequeue> ph8:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:21] <malorye> mcucygv ytv brtv v bg y
[10:21] <xkuseme> hedonick, anto9us, yeah the ftp sucked
[10:22] <redguy> socketbind, boci^: hah, knew it!
[10:22] <socketbind> boci^: well boci you get all the essential things with build-essential and libc6-dev
[10:22] <nsp> has anyone used a linksys lne100tx with ubuntu?
[10:22] <socketbind> boci^: you just install additional headers if you need it
[10:22] <socketbind> boci^: and there is no preferred order installing it
[10:22] <boci^> Can anybody tell me a a full source.list (which contain any packages)
[10:22] <socketbind> redguy: well it's one of the hardest to learn :)
[10:22] <SDFH_Linux> is mplayer plugin for firefox available yet?
[10:23] <nsp> where is the kernel located?
[10:23] <boci^> hehh
[10:23] <eyequeue> nsp:  in linux-image-*.deb
[10:23] <Neurosis> Hello
[10:23] <boci^> socketbind: Barbwire in Viasat3 :)
[10:23] <socketbind> boci^: how does barbwire get in viasat3? :D
[10:24] <nsp> eyequeue, what folder?
[10:24] <socketbind> boci^: WW2-themed reality show? :D
[10:24] <Neurosis> For some reason on my Ubuntu machine my mozilla wont display text on anything not even the webpage.  What should i do?
[10:24] <Ryanmt> how do i change refresh rates and resolution on a dual monitor setup?
[10:24] <`ph8> hey guys
[10:24] <eyequeue> nsp:  what do you mean "folder"?
[10:24] <boci^> socketbind: :)))
[10:24] <oli__> is there alternatives usplash ?
[10:24] <socketbind> boci^: I can't watch so I don't know what do you mean :D
[10:24] <`ph8> KDE is just too buggy for me and i'm wanting to convert to ubuntu/gnome from my kubuntu install - is there an easy cmd or can someone link me too a howto? ;)
[10:24] <nsp> eyequeue, isn't it located in a folder i.e. /usr/src/linux?
[10:24] <eyequeue> nsp:  the kernel is in main
[10:25] <nsp> ok
[10:25] <bozel> hi
[10:25] <eyequeue> nsp:  look unser /boot
[10:25] <socketbind> howdy bozel
[10:25] <eyequeue> nsp: unDer
[10:25] <odat> hi veryone
[10:25] <Neurosis> hi
[10:25] <redguy> nsp: ahh, you meant a directory... the kernel is in /boot
[10:25] <bozel> sorry that i ask it again, but how i can install java...bin
[10:25] <bozel> ?
[10:25] <odat> hey the room gimp seems to be dead
[10:25] <odat> anyone have any experience with it
[10:25] <socketbind> bozel: install j2sdk or make your own package with java-package
[10:25] <Neurosis> For some reason on my Ubuntu machine my mozilla wont display text on anything not even the webpage.  What should i do?
[10:25] <odat> i just need to know how to deselect stuff after is been selected
[10:26] <boci^> socketbind: :DDDD lol
[10:26] <bozel> hi socketbind :)
[10:26] <`ph8> Neurosis: Any proxies you should be going through?
[10:26] <eyequeue> nsp: you want *sources*?  sudo apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r`
[10:26] <redguy> !tell bozel about java
[10:26] <Neurosis> router no proxy
[10:26] <socketbind> bozel: if you want a fresh one (1.5) you build your own package with java-package
[10:26] <Ryanmt> does anybody know how i can change refresh rates and resolution on a dual monitor setup?? :(
[10:26] <socketbind> boci^: what's so funny boci? :D
[10:26] <fanopnaic> Suggestion for a bearable .ps viewer? evince is broken, gv is pretty ugly
[10:26] <boci^> socketbind: you know :)
[10:26] <Stormx2> ActiveX in mozilla/wine'd IE, is it possible?
[10:26] <eyequeue> nsp: you want *sources*?  correction: sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`
[10:27] <bozel> java-package?
[10:27] <bozel> do you mean jpgk?
[10:27] <socketbind> make-jpkg
[10:27] <bozel> jpkg
[10:27] <bozel> ok
[10:27] <odat> ??????
[10:27] <socketbind> Stormx2: only crossover supports that afaik
[10:27] <boci^> pleas somebody give mo full sources.list?
[10:27] <bozel> i'll try
[10:27] <boci^> please...
[10:27] <Belutz> i have 2 nic cards on a PC, eth0 and eth1, I already enable connection sharing for eth0 with firestarter, now how do i enable connection sharing for eth0?
[10:27] <ReleaseX> when i try logging in i get an error that my session on lyasted less than 10 seconds (** (gnome-session: 6853): WARNING **: unable to read ICE authority file) is the error
[10:27] <Belutz> ubotu tell boci^ about sources
[10:27] <Stormx2> socketbind: Ack. notjing in wine?
[10:28] <socketbind> Stormx2: afaik wine can't do that sry
[10:28] <socketbind> Stormx2: but it works nicely in crossover
[10:28] <vbgunz> anyone here know of any performance tweaks for Ubuntu? I found 1
[10:28] <arianit> anybody nows if Breezy supports clear type (true type) fonts by default
[10:28] <Stormx2> socketbind: crossover costs?
[10:28] <boci^> ohh
[10:28] <boci^> Belutz: thnx
[10:28] <Ryanmt> does anybody know how i can change refresh rates and resolution on a dual monitor setup??
[10:28] <B_166-er-x> ReleaseX i had this problem ; to be able to log in, load a Console terminal, and remove the ICE file with the path the error give you
[10:28] <Belutz> boci^, you're welcome
[10:28] <vbgunz> anyone know of any settings to tweak that will improve overall performance? Even a little bit will go a long way...
[10:28] <kent> arianit, do you meen uses it by default or supports? becaus even hoary did support it right?
[10:28] <socketbind> boci^: there is a application installer thingy in the Applications menu, there you can add additional packages
[10:28] <B_166-er-x> rm /path/file
[10:29] <eyequeue> Belutz:  define?
[10:29] <B_166-er-x> ReleaseX then it should work
[10:29] <socketbind> Stormx2: well check the developer's pages, codeweavers.com
[10:29] <arianit> kent, no does it use it by default
[10:29] <socketbind> Stormx2: the 5.0 version is a pretty good one, worth the money
[10:29] <vbgunz> arianit: If you mean Ubuntu antialiasing fonts on screen for both CRT and LED monitors I believe the answer is yes
[10:29] <B_166-er-x> ReleaseX i found this problem to happen when i used with or not, k3b with SUDO
[10:29] <kent> arianit, that i dont know.. :(
[10:30] <Belutz> eyequeue, i want to enable connection sharing using 2 nic cards, i already enable connection sharing for eth1, how do i enable connection sharing for eth0?
[10:30] <socketbind> Stormx2: $39.95 a personal license :/
[10:30] <eyequeue> Belutz:  define "connection sharing"?
[10:30] <Parallax> any luck with pocketpc and evolution ?
[10:30] <eyequeue> Belutz:  bridging?
[10:30] <arianit> I'm not sure if antialiasing fonts are, I know you could set up Hoary to support clear type
[10:30] <vbgunz> 628 people and know one know if any tweaks to boost performance on Ubuntu? I know one of ya have to know something... a setting somewhere?
[10:31] <Belutz> eyequeue, yup, it called bridging :)
[10:31] <eyequeue> Belutz:  there's a strangely named option in the menu, about wizardry or something.  tried that yet?
[10:32] <Belutz> eyequeue, in what menu?
[10:32] <socketbind> boci^: did you managed to make everything work?
[10:32] <eyequeue> Belutz:  firestarter
[10:32] <WebLOCH> socketbind, id advise you stay away from the new netbeans until you have some ANT experience
[10:33] <socketbind> WebLOCH: well I used to write everything to emacs :D so I don't have any soft "spot" for any of the IDE's :D
[10:33] <Belutz> eyequeue, yes i tried that, but for connection sharing in firestarter i can only select 1 nic card
[10:33] <eyequeue> Belutz:  firestarter > Firewall, the top item
[10:33] <WebLOCH> socketbind, you should get one dude, programming is more about the efficient use of an IDE these days
[10:33] <vbgunz> I am currently going to try out powertweak... anyone know of this app?
[10:34] <racookier> i know this is hard {I have a genius color vivid III scanner (conected to paralel port) how to make it work?}
[10:34] <anto9us> vbgunz, see http://www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/latest/ch09s02.html
[10:34] <socketbind> WebLOCH: well I programmed a whole mailserver for fun in emacs :D but I dunno where I left the code from the latest HD crash
[10:34] <eyequeue> Belutz:  after i choose eth1 there's something on what you're asking about in the next screen
[10:34] <WebLOCH> socketbind, im not saying you cant dude, just talking about the industry
[10:34] <Recyclable> hello chaps
[10:34] <budluva> im tryin to install this nvidia driver...NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7174-pkg1.run  how do i remove the current nvidia driver and start fresh?
[10:34] <Recyclable> i'm writing from windows, as my ubuntu is screwed
[10:34] <socketbind> WebLOCH: I'm wouldn't say I'm experienced I'm just coding for fun
[10:35] <Belutz> eyequeue, i have eth0, eth1 and eth2, eth2 is connected to internet, i already enable internet connection sharing for eth1, and now i want to enable eth0 for internet connection sharing too
[10:35] <Breaks> could someone remind me on how to check my hdd space information please? :)
[10:35] <socketbind> WebLOCH: never did a serious job in java, I'm learning JSP and Servlets by now
[10:35] <vbgunz> anto9us: nice find!
[10:35] <budluva> breaks, df -h
[10:35] <Belutz> Breaks, df -h
[10:35] <Recyclable> i started it up one day, logged in, only to find it make a rasping sound halfway through the chimes, and lock up :/
[10:35] <bozel> wow, today its working without any problems :))
[10:35] <Recyclable> still happening
[10:35] <Recyclable> some kind of solution?
[10:35] <Breaks> thats the one!
[10:35] <Breaks> thanks guys
[10:35] <budluva> np
[10:35] <crafteh> anyone know where I can find the mp3 decoding algorithm?
[10:36] <socketbind> WebLOCH: well I should take it more serious, getting familiar with some sort of IDE
[10:36] <Parallax> probably on the LAME web
[10:36] <socketbind> WebLOCH: because at us are dozens of java jobs :)
[10:36] <bluefrog-10> !mp3
[10:36] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[10:36] <anto9us> vbgunz, yeah, had read it before, was in my history
[10:36] <WebLOCH> socketbind, haha, id love a real job
[10:37] <loko_> wenas
[10:37] <socketbind> WebLOCH: well if learning would not take all my time (I'm a student) I would look for some serious job I surely would find some
[10:37] <vbgunz> anto9us: thank you... in Configuration editor all I found regarding performance was: Apps > Metacity > general > CHECK: Reduced Resources...
[10:38] <vbgunz> anto9us: I am giving that page a read now...
[10:38] <WebLOCH> socketbind, same here buddy, last year of my degree, what you studying ?
[10:38] <Ryanmt> "the x server does not support the XRandR extension." <-- what does that mean..how do i change a monitors resolution, can somebody help pllease :(
[10:38] <claude> Hi, does anyone know how could I have always all windows of all desktop in my taskbar in gnome ?
[10:38] <ams_> Whats a good fpt program
[10:38] <yohan> what do you guys use when you want to use tvout?
[10:38] <Seveas> !tell Ryanmt about resolution
[10:38] <Seveas> claude, not
[10:38] <ams_> Whats a good FTP** program
[10:38] <Seveas> yohan, a TV ;)
[10:38] <yohan> Seveas: very funny :)
[10:38] <Seveas> ams_, gftp or the places -> connect to server menu
[10:39] <claude> Seveas: You don't know any way to do it ?
[10:39] <yohan> should i use a program or configure something somewhere?
[10:39] <socketbind> WebLOCH: well I haven't choosen my degree yet, it's hard to explain our school system sry :D I'm just too young, I don't learn for a degree you know what I mean :D
[10:39] <Recyclable> :/ pc a splode
[10:39] <Seveas> claude, correct
[10:39] <Belutz> eyequeue, do have a solution?
[10:39] <claude> Seveas: I just want it like kde multiple desktop management :S
[10:39] <Recyclable> guys, when i try and start ubuntu, after i log in the chime rasps and ubuntu locks up, every time. help?
[10:39] <ToccyH> ey
[10:40] <ToccyH> Hey
[10:40] <Belutz> Seveas, i have eth0, eth1 and eth2, eth2 is connected to internet, i already enable internet connection sharing for eth1, and now i want to enable eth0 for internet connection sharing too, how do i do that?
[10:40] <anto9us> vbgunz, another thing you might want to do is limit number of applications open at time, check their memory usage, look for alternative applications that use less resources, examining those used in a small linux distro may give you some tips
[10:40] <claude> Belutz: configure your iptable to do some forwarding
[10:40] <Seveas> Recyclable, login in text mode (<ctrl><alt><f1> brings you there <alt><f1> brings you back) and delete .Xauthority and .ICEauthority from your homedir
[10:40] <JDigital> What opens a .dvi.gz file?
[10:40] <Seveas> clean out /tmp too
[10:40] <Belutz> claude, how do i configure iptables? what's the command?
[10:40] <ArdieM> iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --cmd-owner CMD -j DROP <-- does this command block all internet connection made from CMD ??
[10:41] <Recyclable> thanks Seveas
[10:41] <Seveas> JDigital, gzip + xdvi (maybe evince too)
[10:41] <WebLOCH> socketbind, no problem dude, just wondered if you were studying to graduate level or otherwise
[10:41] <JDigital> thanks
[10:41] <yohan> what does this mean? Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on Intel x86_64
[10:41] <bluefrog-10> Belutz, use firestarter, won't give u headache
[10:41] <yohan> that its for purchase?
[10:41] <Seveas> Belutz, you need to manually create your firewalling script
[10:41] <socketbind> WebLOCH: I'm just seventeen and studying at a gymnasium
[10:41] <vbgunz> anto9us: so far all is good... I just never liked the minimize/maximize animation... I really don't care for animations... I just want it to go!
[10:41] <Seveas> Belutz, if you have a minute, I have a simple one that's easily extendable
[10:41] <claude> Belutz: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/23
[10:42] <Belutz> Seveas, sure
[10:42] <WebLOCH> socketbind, java at the gym?
[10:42] <Seveas> socketbind/webloch, please take off-topic (non-support) discussions to the off-topic channel
[10:42] <Belutz> claude, i'll read that :)
[10:42] <WebLOCH> Seveas, fair enough
[10:42] <socketbind> Seveas: o.k.
[10:42] <anto9us> vbgunz, if you have a 686 family processor then using a 686 kernel may help too
[10:42] <vbgunz> anto9us: How do I find that out?
[10:43] <vbgunz> anto9us: I heard of this *but* don't know how to tell :(
[10:43] <claude> Anyone know how to see all windows from all desktop from taskbar in gnome ?
[10:43] <Toccy> Is anyone willing to help a real newbie with a question i'm embarressed about?
[10:43] <boci^> shit
[10:43] <vbgunz> Toccy: don't worry be happy ask your q
[10:43] <boci^> tools/convconf.c:81: error: label at end of compound statement
[10:43] <WebLOCH> Toccy,  hair is supposed to grow there dude, its not "evil"
[10:43] <boci^> any idea?
[10:43] <Belutz> claude, right click on the taskbar, it has the options for it
[10:43] <anto9us> vbgunz, your processor is listed when you power-on, uname -r will tell you your kernel
[10:43] <vbgunz> WebLOCH: haha :P
[10:43] <Seveas> WebLOCH, rofl
[10:43] <vbgunz> ok
[10:44] <Toccy> Okay
[10:44] <Toccy> I don't have internet on Linux yet ( gettinga new modem soon)
[10:44] <vbgunz> anto9us: I'll reboot but on what screen will I see my processor information?
[10:44] <Toccy> So I burned some games I downloaded on windows to a dvd
[10:44] <wezzer> is it possible to install ubuntu to pc without cd-rom drive?
[10:44] <claude> Belutz: Hum i didnt find it, where it should be ?
[10:44] <vbgunz> anto9us: I just want to get it right as when I reboot I'll be left all alone :P
[10:44] <claude> Belutz: nvm ty dude
[10:44] <Toccy> I had a game called Supertux
[10:44] <Toccy> I think it was Supertux
[10:44] <Belutz> claude, ok :)
[10:44] <vbgunz> anto9us: this is my current kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[10:45] <socketbind> Toccy: that's pretty cool game :D
[10:45] <Toccy> Well
[10:45] <anto9us> vbgunz, the first screen should tell you
[10:45] <Toccy> I have no clue how to install it
[10:45] <Toccy> >_>
[10:45] <socketbind> slune is pretty great too
[10:45] <Toccy> So I wouldn't know
[10:45] <Toccy> I tried the archive manager
[10:45] <Seveas> Toccy, did you download the .deb file? if not: throw what you have away and download the .deb file
[10:45] <Toccy> But I don't have perms or whatever
[10:45] <Toccy> What do I do with the .deb file?
[10:45] <vbgunz> anto9us: OK, I will try and see now... If it is a 686 and I am using a 386 what do I do?
[10:45] <Toccy> and where can I get it
[10:46] <Seveas> Toccy, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:46] <anto9us> vbgunz, hang on
[10:46] <Toccy> 5.04. I plan to upgrade when I get the modem
[10:46] <Toccy> I have cds from shipit
[10:46] <Toccy> Well
[10:46] <Toccy> a cd
[10:46] <vbgunz> anto9us: ok sure... thank you!
[10:46] <Seveas> !info supertux hoary
[10:46] <ubotu> supertux: (Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.1.2-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 217 kB, Installed size: 616 kB
[10:46] <Rounin> Hello! I'm getting a strange error message : Conflicts: scim (> 1.1.0) but 1.4.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[10:46] <ma> hello
[10:46] <Rounin> Isn't 1.1.0 lower than 1.4.2?
[10:46] <Rounin> Or are we using apt-get math
[10:46] <ma> sss
[10:46] <scribbles> can I use a dvd to burn the 5.10 iso to?
[10:47] <anto9us> vbgunz lshw will tell you your processor undre cpu0
[10:47] <Seveas> Toccy, what kind of pc do you have?
[10:47] <Victor_> hey
[10:47] <ma> yes
[10:47] <Belutz> Seveas, if you'are ready to give the script, please let me know, thanks
[10:47] <Toccy> Well
[10:47] <Toccy> Preformance
[10:47] <Toccy> ?
[10:47] <Seveas> Belutz, still looking for it
[10:47] <Seveas> Toccy, normal pc, amd64 or mac?
[10:47] <Belutz> Seveas, ok
[10:47] <ma> ei
[10:47] <ma> hello
[10:47] <fanopnaic> Can I make an application always launch in workspace $x ?
[10:47] <Toccy> 512RAM, AMD64 Processor, Windows/Ubuntu dual
[10:47] <Toccy> 120gb
[10:47] <IRCMonkey_> hello
[10:47] <Toccy> 60/60
[10:47] <Seveas> Belutz, http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/start_nat
[10:48] <Seveas> Toccy, do you use the 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[10:48] <Belutz> Seveas, thanks :-)
[10:48] <Toccy> I have a 32bit
[10:48] <ma> I am from spain
[10:48] <vbgunz> anto9us: you mean cpu? I don't have cpu0
[10:48] <Toccy> I didn't mean AMD64
[10:48] <Seveas> Belutz, just change ext_inf to what your internet card is
[10:48] <Toccy> I mean just AMD
[10:48] <anto9us> vbgunz, sorry, yes
[10:48] <vbgunz> anto9us: ok, looking
[10:48] <Seveas> Toccy, you need this file: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/supertux/supertux_0.1.2-3_i386.deb
[10:48] <Nei> why when I start aptitude and select nothing and do 'g', it wants to remove all my packages?!
[10:48] <Belutz> Seveas, ok
[10:48] <Seveas> Toccy, and this one: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/supertux/supertux-data_0.1.2-3_all.deb
[10:49] <Toccy> Thanks. Both?
[10:49] <Seveas> yes
[10:49] <threeseas> Hello. I'm using ubuntu breezy and trying to get a wireless card wg311v2 to work. I understand it works out of the box on breezy but can't seem to get it to associate with an access point - that it is a configuration problem (according to man iwconfig --- but it doesn't further explain...
[10:49] <Toccy> Do I load the CD that I burn to into the Package Manager?
[10:49] <Seveas> maybe even more, the Ubuntu packaging system sort-of relies on an internet connection to find these things out
[10:49] <Toccy> Yea
[10:49] <Toccy> Do you recomend any other games?
[10:49] <Toccy> Anything offline
[10:49] <Seveas> you can simply put that on your ubuntu system and run the command: sudo dpkg -i supertux*.deb
[10:50] <vbgunz> anto9us: well I couldn't find it exactly but a search through it for 686 is not there :( I guess I am in the dust... PC's only about a year old... 2.6Ghz P4 1G RAM...
[10:50] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, do u have an access point?
[10:50] <Recyclable> erm
[10:50] <anto9us> vbgunz, then install 686 kernel
[10:51] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: yes
[10:51] <Nomad_01> Is it possible to use both a hardwired and wireless LAN connection at the same time?
[10:51] <Recyclable> how DO i delete  .xauthority and .ICEauthority from my homedir? yes, i'm a lowly noob :(
[10:51] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, wep enabled or disabled?
[10:51] <Seveas> Recyclable, did you login already?
[10:51] <vbgunz> anto9us: yeah sounds like a great idea... I just ghosted my entire root and home just a few minutes ago before logging on... How do I do it?
[10:51] <threeseas> disabled
[10:51] <Seveas> simply run rm ~/.Xauthority ~/.ICEauthority
[10:51] <vbgunz> anto9us: lets rock!
[10:51] <Recyclable> right
[10:51] <vbgunz> anto9us: :P
[10:51] <anto9us> vbgunz, you can use synaptic
[10:51] <Seveas> (linux is case sensitive, beware)
[10:51] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, are u next to it?
[10:51] <Recyclable> that's the command, yes? :P
[10:51] <vbgunz> anto9us: ok
[10:52] <Seveas> Recyclable, yes
[10:52] <Recyclable> okay
[10:52] <Recyclable> i'll try again :)
[10:52] <JDahl> are there any happy AMD64/Ubuntu users here? I installed Ubuntu on an AMD64, and Ubuntu crashes randomly quite often. The only non-default modules I installed are openafs-client and the restricted nvidia drivers. The openafs drivers seem quite buggy, but I dont that's the cause of the problem
[10:52] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, are u close to the access point?
[10:52] <newbie> hello all
[10:52] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: mo and I'm not sure where it is but I can access it via windows well enough
[10:52] <bluefrog-10> k
[10:52] <HappyFool> JDahl: doh
[10:52] <vbgunz> anto9us: man... I searched for kernel under synaptic and came back with crazy hits...
[10:52] <anto9us> vbgunz, I can't see why your spec would be giving you any performance issues though
[10:52] <Nomad_01> JDahl: I run Ubuntu on my +3200 and I've never had a problem I hadn't caused myself ^_^
[10:52] <JDahl> HappyFool, :P
[10:53] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, have u opened the system administration networking window?
[10:53] <vbgunz> anto9us: I do run quite a few applications... Just trying to push it plus animations are not my cup of tea :P
[10:53] <m00se> JDahl: do you have dual channel memory?
[10:53] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: yes
[10:53] <newbie> not to bug anyone but I lost my sound after I pushed the mute button cannot take the mute off now
[10:54] <anto9us> vbgunz, package you need is linux-image-2.6.12-9-686
[10:54] <SDFH_Linux> is mplayer plugin for firefox available yet?
[10:54] <JDahl> m00se, I dont know... do I check that in the BIOS config?
[10:54] <vbgunz> ok
[10:54] <mattpj1> im having a problem installing java
[10:54] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, open properties
[10:54] <mattpj1> i got a error that i cant figure out
[10:54] <vbgunz> anto9us: I got two hits... one linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 and the other linux-image-2.6.12-9-686-smp
[10:54] <m00se> JDahl: my bios prints it on boot. something like "detected 1024mb single-channel memory"
[10:55] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: done
[10:55] <Tokenizer> is there a way to speed up ubuntu .... ie disabling all the special effects of window miniming...... etc.....
[10:55] <vbgunz> anto9us: multiple processors
[10:55] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, in the drop down network name got anything?
[10:55] <Recyclable> argh i'm a fucknut, i didn't write the command down...
[10:55] <m00se> JDahl: it seems that some motherboards don't work properly with certain memory modules in dual mode
[10:55] <anto9us> vbgunz, smp is for multiple processors, I guess you only have one though
[10:55] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: yes, linksys
[10:55] <Recyclable> someone quote me it again?
[10:55] <m00se> JDahl: i had similar problems: lots of segfaults, kernel oopses
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[10:56] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, device is enabled
[10:56] <bluefrog-10> ?
[10:56] <Recyclable> ty
[10:56] <JDahl> m00se, I bought an HP Pavilion PC - XP runs fine
[10:56] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: yes
[10:56] <mattpj1> ???????
[10:56] <m00se> JDahl: i had crashes both in ubuntu and in xp
[10:56] <vbgunz> anto9us: yeah sorry I asked early... I do only have one... am downloading it now... just curious *but* what if it wrong? What if I really should have a 386 instead? Will the system break down? It's no biggie, I just ghosted but am curious...
[10:56] <redguy> ..........
[10:56] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, does the linksys do dhcp?
[10:57] <socketbind> bye, have a nice time
[10:57] <HappyFool> mattpj1: tell us what the error is -- preferably using the pastebin (don't paste errors here)
[10:57] <anto9us> vbgunz, you can opt to boot off any installed kernel from the grub menu, if one doesn't work, use the other :)
[10:57] <vbgunz> anto9us: oh ok
[10:57] <vbgunz> anto9us: t - 10
[10:57] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: I do not know, probably, but properties is set to dhcp
[10:57] <newbie> how would one reinstall a driver
[10:57] <mattpj1> 1 sec
[10:57] <puff> Thinking about upgrading to breezy,  how reliable is it?
[10:58] <ReleaseX> B_166-er-x: thanks that worked
[10:58] <vbgunz> anto9us: it's done,. I will let you know of the results :P
[10:58] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, put a static IP to see if it makes a difference
[10:58] <vbgunz> brb
[10:58] <B_166-er-x> ReleaseX np :)
[10:58] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, and subnet mask (automatic) and gateway 192.168.1.1
[10:58] <mattpj1> http://pastebin.com/410326
[10:58] <dwt> Hi there!
[10:59] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, 1.1 or whatever is the address of the linksys
[10:59] <dwt> Hey, I'm a bit stumped by a ubuntu 5.10 installation
[10:59] <HappyFool> JDahl: you've tested with the  nvidia / openafs drivers out ?
[10:59] <dwt> as the first user is not able to to use sudo
[11:00] <dwt> also there seems to be no group "admin" which is referenced all over the wiki
[11:00] <mattpj1> also i installed java 1.5.0 using their way to install instead of ubuntu's way i read about and it was sucessful and i still cant use webpages that require java or programs that require java
[11:00] <JDahl> HappyFool, just about to write that. I removed the openafs kernel driver module... how about the restricted nvidia drivers - are they are kernel modules also? I thought X lived in userspace
[11:00] <HappyFool> mattpj1: you need the 'build-essential' package
[11:00] <ph8> hi all
[11:00] <ph8> worked perfectly, thanks for that
[11:00] <HappyFool> JDahl: there's an 'nvidia.ko' too
[11:00] <martincho> how can I make that esb don't be loaded when ubuntu 5.04 start?
[11:00] <ph8> now, whenever I try to print i get permission denied to /dev/usb/lp0
[11:00] <JDahl> HappyFool, I will get rid of that also, then
[11:00] <ph8> can anyone tell me what the perms should be?
[11:00] <HappyFool> JDahl: look in /etc/modules -- it's added by the 'nvidia-glx enable' (or whatever the command is)
[11:01] <dabaR> martincho: you mean esd?
[11:01] <dwt> I since "hacked" the sudoers file to include that user, but recon that there is something wrong which should be fixed.
[11:01] <martincho> ah, yes
[11:01] <martincho> sound stuff
[11:01] <dwt> Can somebody give me a hint where to search for info on this?
[11:01] <HappyFool> dwt: did you do an 'expert' install?
[11:01] <Orunitia> any way to switch from kdm to gdm?
[11:01] <puff> How do I import my bookmarks from my old .mozilla into a new one?
[11:01] <dwt> the second try, after the first (normal) install had the same problem
[11:01] <_Caleb_> sup peeps
[11:02] <HappyFool> Orunitia: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' (that's a bit of a guess)
[11:02] <vbgunz> anto9us: I rebooted and uname -are and the kernel is 2.6.12-9-686... It doesn't seem to be acting wierd...
[11:02] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, wher u at?
[11:02] <dabaR> martincho: it starts with gnome, not ubuntu. TO disable it, go System>Admin>sound, or System>Prefs>Sound somewhere, and disable sound server startup.
[11:02] <vbgunz> --are
[11:02] <vbgunz> -\are
[11:02] <mattpj1> ok well i just want to be able to use java now i got programs i installed that dont work and i cant use webpages i wanna use
[11:02] <Orunitia> HappyFool: Nice, thanks. That did it.
[11:02] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: I do not know what the IP address of the access point is
[11:02] <vbgunz> \ -are
[11:02] <martincho> dabaR, thanks, I'll try that
[11:02] <vbgunz> sorry
[11:02] <anto9us> vbgunz, no, it's the same stuff, just compiled under a pentium instead of a 686 and thus optimised for it
[11:03] <mattpj1> why cant they just not be gay with it and install java from the start if i wanted to build this whole system i would just go with gentoo and build from scratch
[11:03] <vbgunz> my dashr keeps turning into dashare
[11:03] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: address of the linksys
[11:03] <HappyFool> mattpj1: all i can tell you is that 'gcc' is missing in that error message; installing 'build-essential' will give you gcc
[11:03] <HappyFool> mattpj1: there are other ways to install java
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, try ping 192.168.1.1
[11:03] <mattpj1> HappyFool i tried aptget crap
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, on what computer r u now
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> ?
[11:03] <anto9us> *386
[11:03] <vbgunz> anto9us: so no problems means I am ok and no big deal... cool~!
[11:03] <_Caleb_> ok how i install apache
[11:03] <_Caleb_> sude apt-get install apache doesnt work
[11:03] <mattpj1> happyfool i believe its installed i just wanna make it work now with programs
[11:03] <_Caleb_> lol
[11:04] <mattpj1> do i have to restart after i install it ?
[11:04] <azahid> can somebody tell me how setup usb printer with Opera browser. I can not print web pages with Opera
[11:04] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: on this one... via dialup
[11:04] <vbgunz> anto9us: ahh damn... the kernel killed vmware :P
[11:04] <_Caleb_> anyone?
[11:04] <_Caleb_> how to install apache
[11:04] <_Caleb_> ?
[11:04] <thrush> _Caleb_: apt-cache search apache does it find package?
[11:04] <Ropechoborra> Hi !
[11:04] <Nei> why does my aptitude want to remove all my packages when I use it :((
[11:04] <mattpj1> apache i believe is a program already in the synaptic manager
[11:05] <dabaR> mattpj1: cause you have no clue what you are talking about.
[11:05] <Boobek> re
[11:05] <Ropechoborra> I`ve installed Hoary and dont have sound... :(
[11:05] <_Caleb_> ahh
[11:05] <mdke> DUMB QUESTION: how do I schedule a cronjob for twice a day
[11:05] <dabaR> mattpj1: go ask sun why ubuntu does notcome with java, or wiindows for that matter.
[11:05] <_Caleb_> apache2 is what i need to ask for
[11:05] <_Caleb_> hehe
[11:05] <agilman> I just installed Ubuntu, and for some reason I can't change resolution higher then 640 x 480. How do I fix that?
[11:05] <vbgunz> anto9us: I think I have to redo vmware :P but so far so good...
[11:05] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, reboot in windows. start run cmd ipconfig and note your ip address and all you the rest, gateway....
[11:05] <thrush> _Caleb_: apache or apache2 I believe both are in repo
[11:05] <mattpj1> dabeR i really dont care i just know all the other distros i had already had it in there
[11:06] <tris622ph> I just installed Ubuntu, and for some reason I can't change resolution higher then 640 x 480. How do I fix that? <-- i have this problem too
[11:06] <mattpj1> without java its kinda pointless most programs i use run java
[11:06] <`ph8> thanks for that guys, worked nicely
[11:06] <anto9us> vbgunz, I've no experience of vmware
[11:06] <agilman> tris622ph, if I'll find a solution, I'll share :)
[11:06] <_Caleb_> wth
[11:06] <dabaR> mattpj1: well, just use the other ones if they better suite your needs.
[11:06] <mdke> mattpj1, go to http://help.ubuntu.com and then to the starterguide, and then follow the simple instructions for installing java
[11:06] <dabaR> its a legality issue.
[11:06] <_Caleb_> it asking for the ubuntu cd
[11:06] <_Caleb_> :/
[11:06] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, what'sur pb?
[11:06] <`ph8> now i keep getting permission denied ot /dev/usb/lp0 when i try to print - can anyone tell me what the perms should be?
[11:06] <vbgunz> tris622ph: you have a 64MB pentium graphics card internal... something along those lines?
[11:06] <`ph8> * to
[11:06] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: ?
[11:06] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, with vmware
[11:07] <thrush> _Caleb_: /etc/apt/sources.list #comment out CDROM entry
[11:07] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: I just upgraded the kernel from 386 to 686 and can no longer run vmware... chances are I'll need to reinstall?
[11:07] <_Caleb_> ok
[11:07] <thrush> _Caleb_: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:07] <nalioth> vbgunz: yes you will
[11:07] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, vmware yes
[11:07] <Recyclable> erm
[11:07] <Recyclable> it didn't work
[11:07] <matthew_w> hey - is joh6nn still here?
[11:07] <vbgunz> yup... feared that :P
[11:07] <Recyclable> i did it as sudo also
[11:07] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, takes 1 min to do it
[11:07] <Recyclable> still rasps midchimes
[11:08] <agilman> and another thing... how do I login as root?
[11:08] <matthew_w> I managed to get the damned machine to boot into knoppix but the ubuntu install cd just crashes the system
[11:08] <bastardkestrel> hey what is the package called that has the compiler?
[11:08] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: one question... was 686 compiled with gcc 3.4 or 4?
[11:08] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, but u will have to dl linux-header for ur ^*^
[11:08] <mdke> agilman, sudo -i
[11:08] <bluefrog-10> 686
[11:08] <bluefrog-10> 3.4
[11:08] <bastardkestrel> !compiler
[11:08] <ubotu> bastardkestrel: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:08] <mdke> agilman, then your user's password
[11:08] <agilman> thanks mdke
[11:08] <mdke> np
[11:08] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, no 4
[11:08] <HappyFool> vbgunz: i suspect all breezy kernel images were compiled with gcc-3.4; the -k7 was
[11:08] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, export CC=....
[11:08] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: yes, I remember that too... I'll wrote me a little walkthrough really quick... will have to modify it for kernel 686 then
[11:08] <mdke> agilman, more info on the wiki at the RootSudo page
[11:09] <agilman> k
[11:09] <`ph8> now i keep getting permission denied to /dev/usb/lp0 when i try to print - can anyone tell me what the perms should be?
[11:09] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: thanks bro, I know the export trick before installation ;)
[11:09] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, what vmware do u install?
[11:09] <Recyclable> Seveas: I did it, sudo also, but it still rasps mid chimes and locks up.
[11:09] <vbgunz> HappyFool: whats up, you think all kernels are 3.4 and 686 is 4?
[11:09] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: workstation 5
[11:09] <HappyFool> `ph8: what are they currently? (ls -l /dev/usb/lp0)
[11:09] <HappyFool> vbgunz: no, i think all are gcc-3.4
[11:09] <`ph8> crw-rw root/lp
[11:09] <`ph8> if memory serves
[11:09] <dabaR> [15:59] CWC-DanB[66298] 8478561618
[11:09] <dabaR> Diane Needed username and password for the account. Verified security, reset password with permission. Educated on secret question and changing password. Confirmed able to log in.
[11:09] <`ph8> which seems fine
[11:10] <`ph8> but it's causing errors
[11:10] <dabaR> sorry
[11:10] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, not the latest rc1?
[11:10] <HappyFool> `ph8: how about adding your user to the lp group ?
[11:10] <Aven> hello
[11:10] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: No I got the beta form in email *but* didn't bother... is it good?
[11:10] <Aven> I keep getting those weird damn sounds
[11:10] <Aven> every 10 minutes or something
[11:10] <Aven> how can I stop it?
[11:10] <vbgunz> HappyFool: yeah I remember when I installed vmware on the 386 the kernel was built with gcc 3.4
[11:10] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, yes but u might have pb to install it in ubu, stick with ur 5
[11:10] <asimismo> Hey all. I'm trying to do a reinstall and the partitioner doesn't seem to forget my LVM and RAID settings. How do I get rid of them? I'm not having any luck via the partitioner itself.
[11:11] <bmk789> bluefrog-10: got my mp3 working, thanks
[11:11] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: yup, workstation 5 works for me :)
[11:11] <bluefrog-10> bmk789, k
[11:11] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: (back) I have to work, too. :-)
[11:11] <`ph8> whoops
[11:11] <`ph8> Printing: Unable to open USB device "usb:/dev/usb/lp0": Permission denied
[11:11] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, stick with it
[11:11] <agilman> tris622ph, Im gonna try installing the nvidia kernel, that might fix the resolution problem
[11:11] <`ph8> still
[11:11] <vbgunz> anto9us: thanks again man1
[11:11] <_Caleb_> ok
[11:11] <HappyFool> `ph8: your user is a member of the lp group?
[11:11] <_Caleb_> and sudo apt-get upgrade upgrades the kernel and shit right?
[11:11] <eliphas__> someone knows vmplayer?
[11:12] <bluefrog-10> `ph8, id user   lpadmin is one of ur group?
[11:12] <jd_> re
[11:12] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: whats the major difference? In my email, they mentioned running ghost images and microsoft machines... is that it?
[11:12] <`ph8> i just added myself in /etc/group HappyFool
[11:12] <vbgunz> no performace gains or soundblaster fixes?
[11:12] <`ph8> I thought cupsys was the only important one?
[11:12] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, basically yes maybe some more stuff.
[11:12] <`ph8> and yes i'm in lpadmin as well
[11:12] <sorush20> how do I add new actions to my right click for file types.. I want to be able to extract more than one zip file into one folder.. ?
[11:13] <caonex_> anybody here using the ati modules and made it work with libopengl from ati not from xlibmesa?
[11:13] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: cool, I'll mess with the stable once out ;)
[11:13] <HappyFool> `ph8: sorry, i was taking a guess; obviously an incorrect one
[11:13] <asimismo> Anyone know how to clear my LVM and RAID settings without the partitioner?
[11:14] <fanopnaic> clear?
[11:14] <vbgunz> oh I have a question that has been bugging me since I first started with Ubuntu... Whats with the desktop icons? I mean, if I shutdown the PC, plug in some USB drives, cameras, walkmans and Memory sticks... next boot, they all overlap one another and several other icons on the desktop... this cannot be normal... any fix for this?
[11:15] <`ph8> still a good one
[11:15] <`ph8> what about a chown to henri/lp?
[11:15] <`ph8> but grrr, it should work - i've made no changes
[11:15] <HappyFool> `ph8: it looks like cup connects to the printer on your behalf
[11:16] <Ropechoborra> I dont have sound in my PC... I guess i have to configure the sound card... how do i do that?
[11:16] <HappyFool> !tell Ropechoborra about sound
[11:17] <thrush> Ropechoborra: do u have onboard sound and a soundcard?
[11:17] <Boobek> !tell BOobek about soung
[11:17] <eSPete> how do i restore files from fat32 in linux?
[11:17] <Boobek> !tell BOobek about sound
[11:18] <Aven> hey
[11:18] <Aven> what's the command to install a bin file again?
[11:18] <Boobek> wow:>
[11:18] <asimismo> Ok, does nobody use LVM and RAID?
[11:18] <`ph8> but it should just be a case of: correct printer, add it, sorted right?
[11:18] <`ph8> Aven: ./file.bin
[11:18] <Aven> oh, lol
[11:18] <HappyFool> !tell eSPete about windowsdrives
[11:18] <`ph8> s/correct/connect
[11:18] <Boobek> asimismo, I used to use LVM
[11:18] <asimismo> Boobek: Why used to?
[11:19] <Aven> it says 'command not found' ;\
[11:19] <eSPete> HappyFool, yes it is a windows drive
[11:19] <HappyFool> Aven: try 'sh ./file.bin'
[11:19] <Boobek> but the lvm partition must format to other partition
[11:19] <Boobek> i think
[11:19] <HappyFool> eSPete: read the link ubotu sent you
[11:19] <anto9us> asimismo, I reconfigured mine in the installer, worked ok, you can try using parted or a gui version like gparted or qtparted
[11:19] <Boobek> but I a beginner
[11:19] <Aven> HappyFool: it says "cannot execute binary file"
[11:20] <asimismo> anto9us: I can't boot. I want to reinstall but I can't clear out the old settings, even via the installer.
[11:20] <budluva> anyone know of any good gfx benchmarking tools for nix?
[11:20] <HappyFool> Aven: hmm. how about 'file ./file.bin'
[11:20] <Boobek> asimismo, I think the rescue partition is good, and I make it a part of the lvm and ...
[11:20] <`ph8> ok, if i 777 it, it works
[11:20] <`ph8> madness
[11:20] <HappyFool> Aven: will tell you what kind of file it is
[11:20] <eSPete> wops...
[11:21] <Aven> ok, it says:
[11:21] <Aven> ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[11:21] <Aven> so? :P
[11:21] <HappyFool> Aven: 'chmod a+x file.bin; ./file.bin'
[11:22] <luisito> hello, hello
[11:22] <anto9us> asimismo, installer cleared out old raid settings for me, was a bit troublesomet though, keep trying
[11:22] <luisito> nalioth is here?
[11:22] <Aven> HappyFool: done..
[11:22] <asimismo> anto9us: Oh, I have! Try to clear settings. Error. Reboot. Try again.
[11:22] <luisito> is nalioth here?
[11:22] <HappyFool> Aven: the bit after the semicolon should have launched the program
[11:23] <HappyFool> luisito: if he is he'll respond
[11:23] <nalioth> luisito: yes
[11:23] <Aven> how do I install it first?
[11:23] <luisito> HappyFool, I know, but the first question was bad formulated, I think :P
[11:23] <anto9us> asimismo, what's the error?
[11:24] <HappyFool> Aven: i don't know; what happens when you run it?
[11:24] <eSPete> the link has nothing about restoring deleted files
[11:24] <HappyFool> Aven: as in, when you do   ./file.bin
[11:24] <Aven> it doesn't run
[11:24] <Aven> says 'command not found'
[11:24] <budluva> anyone here with a geforce card know roughly how many fps you get in glxgears?
[11:24] <Aven> ok, how do I install it in Synaptic?
[11:24] <HappyFool> Aven: after you've done 'chmod a+x file.bin' ? (file.bin must be replaced with the filename in question)
[11:25] <thrush> eSPete: maybe try a dos boot disk and undelete?
[11:25] <nalioth> luisito: did you have a question or were just wondering if i were awake?
[11:25] <asimismo> anto9us: Currently 'The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) failed.
[11:25] <Aven> still says 'command not found;
[11:25] <HappyFool> Aven: what is the full error?
[11:26] <HappyFool> Aven: and what are you trying to install?
[11:26] <Aven> realplayer
[11:26] <luisito> hi nalioth, I formatted a hardrive in fat32 with the windows 98 floppy, I thought it was the easiest way, but there was the hoary installation and the MBR wasn't cleared and keeps asking for grub and gives me a n error
[11:26] <rohal> each time i run apt-get i have to export http_proxy......where should i add them so that apt-get autodetects it???
[11:26] <luisito> nalioth, how I clear the MBR?
[11:26] <eSPete> thrush, that's an option, but if there was a was to pull this from within linux it would be nice
[11:27] <thrush> eSPete: im sure linux has file recovery tools but ive never looked into them sorry ;)
[11:27] <nalioth> luisito: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:27] <Noata> Aven; have you tried to see if their are instructions on google first
[11:27] <anto9us> asimismo, you should be adding the ext3 to the raid device md0 or whatever
[11:28] <erisco> i am having trouble starting limewire, i followed the guide and everything is configured correctly except something about runLime.sh
[11:28] <asimismo> anto9us: If I try to do guided partitioning to overwrite everything it says, 'Error informing the kernel about modifications to partiion ...part5 - Device or resource busy.'
[11:28] <towsonu2003> hi
[11:28] <erisco> it wont boot the program
[11:28] <rider> hey @ll, I'm really noob on linux
[11:28] <erisco> wether it is the sh or limewire itself
[11:28] <erisco> any ideas?
[11:28] <Noata> Aven, first see if it is a version that is linux compatible
[11:28] <rider> i have installed xfce
[11:28] <eric_> could some one point me in the right direction for reconfiguring a sound card? Please?
[11:28] <Aven> it is
[11:28] <rider> but i do not know what should i do know?
[11:28] <asimismo> anto9us: I'm just trying a simple install hoping to overwrite the md and lvm data. Because it keeps remembering my previous settings
[11:28] <rider> nothing happned
[11:29] <Tokenizer> i started xcompmgr (a service to make transparent windows .. etc)...... how to i stop this service at Terminal?
[11:29] <towsonu2003> question: what does "initializing kernel log" in boot time corresponds (to which file in /var/log/) ?
[11:29] <Noata> hmm the site you downloaded didnt tell you ... what type of linux do you have
[11:30] <Noata> i mean aven what linux do you have
[11:30] <HappyFool> Aven: can i pm you?
[11:30] <Aven> HF: yeah
[11:30] <iNSaNe> dforge.org
[11:30] <anto9us> asimismo, have you checked for and deleted the md?
[11:31] <luisito> nalioth, ok. Now, other think, when I mount the disk with winmac_fstab, it gives the partition a name like "0 GB Disk (hdb1)": 1- can I change that name?, 2- how do I remove the desktop icon?. Sorry for all the questions and thank you. ;)
[11:31] <asimismo> In the partitioner? Yes. Same error (the latter one)
[11:32] <anto9us> asimismo, I confess I've no experience of LVM, only RAID
[11:32] <asimismo> auth00: Is there another way to just blast it?
[11:32] <nalioth> luisito: i'm not the only one in here that can help you. you also have a man in your computer that will help you. open a console and type "man fstab"
[11:32] <towsonu2003> sorry to repeat, won't do it again: question: what does "initializing kernel log" in boot time corresponds (to which file in /var/log/) ?
[11:32] <crimsun> towsonu2003: starting sysklogd
[11:32] <xkuseme> anybody know if there is a book around that explains gimp?
[11:33] <nalioth> xkuseme: yes there is. look at www.gimp.org for the link
[11:33] <luisito> nalioth, ok, thank you.
[11:33] <asimismo> auto9us: They're giving me similar errors. Where do they store their data? Even when I reinstall and try to claim the whole disk it complains
[11:33] <xkuseme> nalioth, thanks
[11:33] <anto9us> xkuseme, there's a web tutorial called grokking the gimp which I recall is quite good
[11:33] <rohal> what should i do for this error         The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BC95B8B5CF6984C
[11:34] <rohal> i am getting it during apt-get update
[11:34] <nalioth> rohal: ignore it
[11:34] <towsonu2003> crimsun: to which file does that write the log in? syslog? (mine fails everytime i boot, that's why i'm asking)
[11:34] <rohal> nalioth: but i want the package from this site?
[11:34] <xkuseme> anto9us, yeah but i wanted something that i can read on the bus
[11:35] <anto9us> asimismo, have you got a live cd?
[11:35] <asimismo> Yeah
[11:35] <nalioth> rohal: that is up to you, the error wont keep your apt-get from getting things
[11:35] <asimismo> auto9us: That is, yeah
[11:36] <asimismo> anto9us: Oh, that's an n. Sorry, bad font!
[11:36] <anto9us> xkuseme, it's available in hard copy too
[11:36] <rohal> nalioth: but there are some package which are available only on this site....& i am able to connect to it through browser
[11:37] <crimsun> towsonu2003: multiple files in /var/log/
[11:37] <anto9us> asimismo, boot off that and try parted
[11:37] <nalioth> rohal: the error only means the maintainer hasnt given his gpg key to ubuntu for inclusion in your apt
[11:37] <asimismo> anto9us: parted is an app?
[11:38] <fmasi> Helo i like to know what is the program used to instal softwer via text mode in gui form not the apt comant line
[11:38] <anto9us> asimismo, yes, it gives partition information and editing
[11:38] <asimismo> Ok, will try
[11:38] <asimismo> anto9us: Thanks! Gotta run...
[11:40] <towsonu2003> crimson: I guess i better go take a look at sysklogd goolge man pages :) thanks for the help.
[11:40] <Trenton`> ohmm
[11:40] <Trenton`> what just happened
[11:40] <Trenton`> all the sudden
[11:40] <Trenton`> my taskbar went away
[11:41] <stpere> gnome-panel probably crashed
[11:41] <Trenton`> anyway to restart it safely?
[11:41] <HappyFool> all your taskbar are belong to us!
[11:41] <stpere> ALT+F2 and then type gnome-panel
[11:42] <nalioth> Trenton`: hit alt-f2 and type gnome-panel
[11:42] <Trenton`> nogo
[11:42] <Trenton`> >.<
[11:42] <Trenton`> oh well
[11:42] <Trenton`> how do I restart safelt?
[11:42] <Trenton`> from hotkeys.
[11:43] <Ropechoborra> Need help... I cant configure X to run at 1024x768 =( i`ve already configured xorg and dont know what to do...
[11:44] <anto9us> Ropechoborra, put resolutions in descending order under and make sure monitor is set properly
[11:44] <anto9us> *under default depth
[11:45] <shtron> Hi, I just installed ubuntu and I don't have sound on media players (xine-ui or xmms). can anyone help me?
[11:45] <Ropechoborra> anto9us descending ?? like 1024x768 800x600 640x480 ?? I`ve done that already. The monitor i think its right. I think the problem is de Video Card... it is not listed in xorg
[11:46] <ckrueger> anyone here good with ipods/gtkpod?
[11:46] <ckrueger> because i just bought an ipod shuffle and for some reason every track synced to the thing cuts off after about 2 min
[11:46] <ckrueger> the file size on the device is correct
[11:46] <ckrueger> but even when i go to play it within XMMS or something of the kind directly from the ipod, it cuts off after 2 min
[11:46] <dwt> Sorry, can anybody tell me if there's something wrong with my ubuntu install if there is no "admin" group around?
[11:47] <dwt> (I think it should, at least I read so on the wiki)
[11:47] <anto9us> Ropechoborra,  you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[11:47] <hurrrrrrrrr> does hedgehog come with emacs?
[11:47] <Ropechoborra> dwt That happended to me... did you put the password for the root during the install ?
[11:47] <Ropechoborra> anto9us No... I`ll
[11:47] <plumpkin> i'm trying to set up my rt2500 based wireless card....  i followed the howto in the ubuntu wiki, yet something isnt right.  using the RaConfig2005 utility, i can see my status as connected, i see lights on my wireless card, yet it doesnt seem to work, any idea where to start?
[11:47] <Ropechoborra> what does it do?
[11:48] <hurrrrrrrrr> does anyone know how to get emacs running in 5.1?
[11:48] <anto9us> ubotu tell dwt about sudo
[11:48] <HappyFool> hurrrrrrrrr: install emacs21
[11:48] <dwt> Ropechoborra: yes we did
[11:48] <Ropechoborra> dwt thats the problem ! :)
[11:49] <eSPete> anyone knows a undelete/recover tool for fat32 for linux?
[11:49] <_gueb_> lo all
[11:49] <dwt> Well, but there's still no admin group around
[11:49] <dwt> shouldn't it? and is there something seriously broken without it?
[11:49] <shtron> Hi, I just installed ubuntu and I don't have sound on media players (xine-ui or xmms). can anyone help me?
[11:49] <anto9us> dwt your first user has admin privilages
[11:49] <electron> how do I setup a printer on ubuntu via command line so that I it can be accessed over the network?
[11:49] <Ropechoborra> Im new at linux but, try to install it again and dont put the root password. Then after the install it will ask to creat a new user with a password (thats included on the admin group)
[11:50] <electron> It's a Cannon BJC-2100SP
[11:50] <dwt> anto9us: well, theoretically yest, but not in this install. (well, now it at least has sudo rights, but because I hacked the sudoers file by hadn)
[11:50] <crimsun> shtron: did you just install Breezy?
[11:50] <electron> I need to install the printer first
[11:50] <dwt> anto9us: and I guess there's still a setting misssing somewhere
[11:51] <cemm> hi, ihave 7cd images of debian sarge, how can i combine this iso's to write them'all to a single dvd ?
[11:51] <shtron> crimsun, no - hoary, breezy was too buggy. I tried to get back to hoary and don't have sound since then...
[11:51] <dwt> anto9us: oh, and the directions given on RootSudo concerning Breezy for adding a user don't seem to work here
[11:51] <_gueb_> telecommande with bluetooth exist under linux?
[11:51] <anto9us> dwt, sudo users-admin works?
[11:52] <electron> How do I setup a printer in Ubuntu without doing it in X?
[11:52] <delta> cya
[11:52] <hurrrrrrrrr> thanks
[11:52] <jaggedpulse> i just installed ubuntu breezy as a fresh boot on a new computer and i can't seem to set up the wireless or play DVDs
[11:52] <crimsun> shtron: you should really try Breezy. Sound is a bit more difficult to debug in Hoary.
[11:52] <Inchabod> lol
[11:52] <dwt> anto9us: is that a command I should try?
[11:52] <Inchabod> I died
[11:52] <electron> please stop ignoring me!
[11:53] <dwt> anto9us: dang, dumb me
[11:53] <_gueb_> electron try howto setup a printer on google.com/linux
[11:53] <redguy> electron: you might try using lynx elinks or any other text www browser to connect to localhost:631 where the cups configpage is
[11:53] <dwt> anto9us: of coursse it works cause I hacked the sudoers file to include the first user - by hand
[11:53] <dwt> anto9us: but I guess that that's not the only setting missing
[11:53] <anto9us> dwt, that will allow you to set privileges for the users, tick all the boxes
[11:54] <Ropechoborra> anto9us what does sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do ? Return to standar config??
[11:54] <bluefrog-10> yes
[11:54] <Ropechoborra> But... i dont think that works... I`ve just installed it
[11:54] <shtron> crimsun: when I install breezy I had the following phenomenon: the network didn't start during boot and I had to run "dhclient" after each boot. but after i did, some programs took about 5 min. to load.
[11:54] <dwt> anto9us: we did - but there's none that resembles anything like "Executing system administration tasks" which is mentioned on the RootSudo page
[11:55] <anto9us> Ropechoborra, no, it's a multi-choice wizard
[11:55] <dwt> anto9us: either that page is wrong and needs repairing, or somethings wrong here
[11:55] <anto9us> dwt, click user, then properties
[11:55] <dwt> yes
[11:55] <dwt> anto9us: I did
[11:55] <redguy> electron: or do what _gueb_ told you
[11:55] <DrZeus> hi all.  Im trying to install limimlib2 and get a "missing X includes" error
[11:55] <anto9us> then user privileges?
[11:55] <Ropechoborra> dwt I`ve found multiple errors that were fixed after a reinstall xD
[11:56] <mth`MAW> n8
[11:56] <dwt> Ropechoborra: well... alreaddy did that twice....
[11:56] <DrZeus> I searched the xlibs-dev in apt-get but is not in the repositories.  Where can I find that
[11:56] <dwt> anto9us: there's stuff to allow me to send faxes, and use audio devices and modems and scanners...
[11:56] <towsonu2003> ok it seems i have a problem with my kern.log (it's empty!). how o diagnose and fix it? any ideas?? thanks in advance... background: on boot time, "initializing kernel log" fails...
[11:56] <dwt> but nothing concerning sysstem administration.
[11:56] <ckrueger> anyone here use an ipod shuffle with gtkpod?
[11:56] <_willcooke_> any mysql experts in?  I've asked on #mysql - no joy....
[11:56] <Ropechoborra> dwt did you tryed to skip the root password on setup ??
[11:56] <HappyFool> DrZeus: try x-window-system-dev
[11:57] <jaggedpulse> Ok, question: DO i neeed to install a wireless driver on Breezy???
[11:57] <jaggedpulse> or is it already there?
[11:57] <sorush20> 
[11:57] <DrZeus> HappyFool, will try it
[11:57] <dwt> Ropechoborra: We first did a normal install and ended up without sudo rights and a disabled root account - so the system was unusable
[11:57] <HappyFool> DrZeus: also look at 'apt-cache depends libimlib2' (or whatever it was) for ideas of what -dev packages to install
[11:57] <dwt> Ropechoborra: after that we did an expert install and enabled root
[11:57] <flogiston> I can't run alsaconf.
[11:57] <anto9us> dwt, I'm just clutching at straws but try sudo -s and then users-admin and see what that shows you
[11:57] <DrZeus> HappyFool, the x-window-system-dev is not there
[11:58] <Ropechoborra> dwt after the usual install you can get the root password to enableit ... so there you got the root and the admin group :)
[11:58] <HappyFool> DrZeus: then you need to setup your repos properly
[11:58] <HappyFool> !tell DrZeus about repos
[11:58] <DrZeus> I have the repos fine
[11:58] <DrZeus> even updated
[11:58] <dwt> Ropechoborra: and subsequently hacked /etc/sudoers to include the current user
[11:59] <towsonu2003> repeating as usual, don't kick me :) : it seems i have a problem with my kern.log (it's empty!). how o diagnose and fix it? any ideas?? thanks in advance... background: on boot time, "initializing kernel log" fails...
[11:59] <dwt> anto9us: :( same as before, no change here
[11:59] <flogiston> I had put one soundcard into my computer ran alsaconf and used it. But when i took it out and wanted to use my intergrated sound alsaconf wouldn't run. I have alsa-utils installed
[11:59] <lanir> hi , is ubuntu comes with xinetd ?
[11:59] <Ropechoborra> dwt but... wich is your problem... the admin group ?
[11:59] <HappyFool> DrZeus: x-window-system-dev is in the 'main' repository. if you cannot find it, there is an error in your setup or in the repository mirror you are accessing
[11:59] <anto9us> dwt, is a re-install out of the question?
[12:00] <DrZeus> HappyFool, really...
[12:00] <towsonu2003> lanir: no, but it's in the repositories
[12:00] <DrZeus> :(